IRC log for #webos-internals on 20130327

00:41.30RagingMindmy Pre3 is getting a lot of lint/dust under the lens cover.  anyone in their hardware fiddling see a way to maybe get that out?
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03:27.54csc`welcome back ka6sox
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03:29.37ka6soxthanks...long tiring day
03:30.10csc`same
03:30.17csc`had to call a suicide squad on my mother
03:30.24csc`and it still didnt get her help
03:30.25PatrickC|AwayRagingMind: i've taken my Pre3 apart and replaced the lens cover. not the easiest thing in the world
03:30.28PatrickC|Awaybut doable
03:30.42csc`PatrickC|Away, geeze, id do that over what i just did any day
03:30.55PatrickC|Awayi bet, sorry to hear what you had to do
03:32.26csc`if you care to read the details, you're welcome to
03:32.30csc`i have the log up on my vps
04:05.47ka6soxcsc`, sorry to hear that.
04:06.42csc`ka6sox, eh, i disowned my father for what he did, my sister agrees that she needs rehab or she is never going to see her kids or grandkids again
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05:06.30EricBladecsc`: ugh. i had a parental unit that i had to send an email to saying that if she did not seek mental help, she would never hear from me, her other two children, or her grand children, ever again.  she said "I guess that's goodbye, then."
05:07.11PatrickC|AwayEricBlade: sorry to hear that...
05:07.37csc`yeah
05:07.58csc`my father threw away millions of lines of code and all of my servers, machines, tools, you name it
05:08.17EricBladePatrickC|Away: it is what it is.  at 50-something, i doubt any amount of mental health is going to help her, but if she were at least trying, i'd give her one more chance.
05:08.19csc`all i got was "I really dont know" three years later when I asked if he had my stuff
05:14.22EricBladesucks, but on the bright side, once you eliminate the family who believe you should love them unconditionally even if they are collossal a-holes, you get to pick and choose who you want to hang out with.
05:15.58EricBladeabout a month after that email conversation, another family member called me up out of the blue, noting that it'd been about 15 years since we ran into each other, and that it'd be really nice to get together during the holidays.  I agreed, showed up, and he asked me to lend him money.
05:16.21csc`lol
05:16.27PatrickC|Awayhaha
05:16.30csc`my uncle tried to call me gay for disowning my father
05:16.52csc`i embarassed someone 3x my age on a facebook thread he decided to show his rear by making
05:17.12csc`he thought it was funny to make my sister cry on facebook for using it for its intended purpose
05:17.29csc`then tried threatening me with the fbi for cyber-terrorism and e-bullying
05:17.38csc`still waiting for them to show up, even gave him a GPS fix
05:18.00PatrickC|Awaylol
05:18.46csc`was kinda funny, he wouldn't fly down here because im not worth it, i offered to pay for him and his son's plane ticket and they declined saying i should bring myself there (so he can shoot me on his property legally because i'd give them both a beatdown and gut them like fishes)
05:19.13EricBladegay or not, I'd probably respond to that "you sure do got a purty mouth, uncle"
05:19.30csc`it was in reference to a vague message to get money for food from an aunt
05:19.50csc`in which i siphoned gas and got swallowed some so i could spend the money on food instead of fuel
05:20.53EricBladei've been using that "you sure do got a purty mouth" a lot today, what with all the fundies on facebook posting their hate today
05:21.06csc`eh i stopped using facebook
05:21.14csc`cia runs it, no thanks
05:23.12EricBladei gotta head to sleep so i can do awesome webos things tomorrow.  hope your mom gets the help she needs, csc
05:23.15csc`finally
05:23.21csc`i find the webos seal!
05:23.34csc`a wallpaper worthy of disabling switcharoo for
05:23.57csc`EricBlade, she won't, she already proved that tonight with her suicide sham.
05:24.28EricBladei still have hope for mine, i'll hold some for yours too
05:25.48csc`anyone in here tried running the psp emulator on a pre+?
05:26.00csc`doubtful but i'll ask anyway since nobody wants to answer it in the thread yet :<
05:26.16PatrickCcsc`: does the Pre+ have the resources to run a PSP emu?
05:26.28csc`if it'll run on a stock pre2
05:26.33csc`it should run on a pre+
05:26.38PatrickCPre2 has more RAM
05:26.40PatrickCIIRC
05:26.43csc`nope
05:26.54csc`not that i know of
05:26.54PatrickCi think the pre2 has 1GB RAM and the Pre+ has 512
05:26.56PatrickCi could be wrong
05:27.10csc`pretty sure the pre+ 2 and 3 all have 512
05:27.10csc`last i checked
05:27.24PatrickCthe 3 doesn't have all it's RAM usable iirc
05:27.29PatrickCbeen forever since i was going webOS stuff
05:27.34PatrickCbeen going android only lately
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05:29.08Shadowflankstupid tether
05:29.18Shadowflankanyway, last i checked they all had 512
05:29.26Shadowflanki looked at a side by side comparison somewhere
05:30.13Shadowflankhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_pre_2
05:30.14Shadowflank512
05:30.22PatrickCO_o guess i was wrong
05:30.33Shadowflankhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Pre_3
05:30.34Shadowflank512
05:30.56Shadowflankno difference between my phone besides clock speed, camera resolution, screen res and software
05:31.14Shadowflanki think the lack of extra ram is why the pre3 isnt on my wishlist
05:31.26Shadowflankdunno if it sent but i asked this:
05:31.28Shadowflank<csc`> odd question but what were to happen if i have my pre on a touchstone and plug the usb cable in?
05:32.35PatrickCi think it would switch to USB mode
05:32.39Shadowflankgonna lumberjack the app and see why its failing
05:32.55ShadowflankPatrickC, well i ment as in would the voltages just fry it?
05:33.04PatrickCdont think so
05:33.04Shadowflankplugging in a usb cable to power along with charging on a touchstone
05:33.13PatrickCi had mine on a touchstone and plugged a 2amp charget into it
05:33.36PatrickCthe phone is smarter then most give it credit for.. sometimes :)
05:33.38Shadowflankat the sake of overheating
05:33.46Shadowflankim going to overclock it to a ghz
05:33.53Shadowflankand override the templimit
05:33.57Shadowflankcrap...
05:34.00Shadowflankluna crashed
05:34.01PatrickCi ran my Pre as 1.2GHz all the time
05:34.07PatrickCand the Pre2 at 1.4GHz
05:34.12PatrickCmy Pre3 is always at 1.9GHz lol
05:34.15ShadowflankPatrickC, do you tether at full 3g on a touchstone?
05:34.21PatrickCi have
05:34.23Shadowflankbecause i generate about 125f
05:34.30Shadowflankit gets hot as hell
05:34.34PatrickCi ran my Pixi at almost 70C
05:34.44Shadowflankand im aware the only thing that will eat my phone is heat and liquid
05:34.50Shadowflankand throwing a brick at it
05:35.10Shadowflankive also noticed that since i got my pre+ the bottom of the screen diffuses weird
05:35.20Shadowflankbrighter in some spots, such as the right corner
05:35.20PatrickChad that happen to my pre2
05:35.47Shadowflankregardless until i can get a replacement I wont dare push it past the safe limits
05:35.57PatrickCgood idea
05:36.05Shadowflankand terminus sucks balls, always takes luna down
05:36.13PatrickCi have several pre2s around when i used to use it as a daily device, so i didn't mind :P
05:36.15Shadowflankpeople wonder why i still use terminal
05:36.26ShadowflankPatrickC, still got one laying around?
05:36.34Shadowflankim remotely interested in a pre2 for webos 2.x
05:36.40Shadowflankbut its not high on my priority list
05:36.42PatrickCShadowflank: i do, but most of them don't work that good lol
05:36.48Shadowflankas in?
05:37.32PatrickCkeyboards don't work good, screens messed up, cameras went bad, wifi boards went bad
05:37.35PatrickCtokens are bad
05:37.58Shadowflankgot one with a mucked camera?
05:38.11Shadowflankwhats the other issues with that one
05:38.28PatrickCi think it has some keyboard issues too
05:38.36PatrickCthey are all scratched and dented like crazy too
05:38.41PatrickCjust keep them around for media devices now
05:39.02Shadowflankah, was wanting one for science
05:39.05Shadowflank:p
05:39.24Shadowflanklumberjack shows no errors
05:39.29Shadowflankapplication just fails to start
05:39.36Shadowflankshould i reboot before shooting it down?
05:39.45PatrickCprobably
05:40.10Shadowflankill be back in a few minutes then
05:40.17Shadowflankshould be fairly quick reboot with 1ghz on
05:40.24PatrickCheh
05:40.44Shadowflankby the way, i find it funny that knowing what i know, i can seriously annoy another nearby webos user with tellbootie
05:40.45Shadowflank=3
05:40.48Shadowflankbrb
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05:48.27Shadowflankholy...
05:48.29Shadowflankit runs!
05:48.35Shadowflanklemme dig an iso up and try loading a game
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06:05.39csc`no cso support
06:05.43csc`gayness
06:07.23csc`goes to find a iso and not a cso
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06:26.39csc`doesnt seem to want to load any games
06:41.00csc`oh well
06:41.03csc`to be expected
06:44.23csc`guess the good news is, once the touchpad arrives eventually, i'll be able to provide some serious compatibility testing info
06:44.43csc`i have a massive library from ripping off Gamestop and used games =3
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07:45.41csc`nice, I dethroned GMMan on poster shoutouts
07:53.22csc`stalking the unanswered posts, trying to answer the ones I can, or simply thank someone for posting valuable information
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15:29.47csc`oh god that was bad
15:29.55csc`woke up to my laptop in a small puddle of water
15:42.52PatrickCwhat happened?
15:42.57PatrickCoh, and nice indent csc` :)
15:44.10csc`?
15:44.21csc`ident? what, my cloak?
15:45.09PatrickCyeah
15:45.13csc`and my cat steals food now because of the one i got rid of that started the whole fiasco with my mom, PatrickC. The food was disgusting for even me to eat so I think he shook his head like a cat does eating, and knocked the cup of water on the desk which slowly pooled around the edges
15:45.34csc`he tried waking me up too it would seem
15:46.02PatrickCO_o the laptop ok?
15:46.04csc`but when i walked in to boot it up and resume my daily internetting, my sock got wet
15:46.13csc`i was thought it was urine
15:46.23csc`and then i traced it to the source
15:46.47csc`i popped the crap out of his rear too, and he ran away big time. He knew what he did, he knew it was wrong.
15:46.58csc`PatrickC, talking on it now
15:47.05PatrickCthat's good :)
15:47.22csc`PatrickC, as for my archlinux cloak, i dislike the project now
15:47.40csc`they're like gentoo was back when i tried to use gentoo after building an LFS system
15:47.52csc`dude they replaced mysql with moriadb
15:48.07csc`i'd gladly swap it out for a webos affiliated cloak
15:48.16csc`and ive had this thing for as long as 06
15:48.29csc`that says something now =\
15:49.04PatrickCwow..
15:49.09PatrickCi wish we had webOS cloaks
15:49.33csc`you could probably get a project for webos-internals
15:49.44csc`we are in the single hashtag namespace
15:49.45csc`and open source
15:49.48PatrickCnot right now, as GRS is down
15:49.58csc`just saying :P
15:50.04PatrickCheh yeah :)
15:50.14PatrickCim going to get a project cloak for my channel once GRS opens up
15:50.34csc`which channel?
15:50.34csc`or project rather
15:50.41csc`this?
15:50.51PatrickCnope, i run an android development channel
15:53.19csc`ah
15:53.35csc`but yeah i'd love a webos-internals affiliated cloak xD
15:53.47csc`phrakture gave me this one and they tried ripping it from me but i ripped them a new one
15:56.54PatrickClol
15:59.15csc`neat
15:59.25csc`may have solved that guy's issue with the pre3 message problem
15:59.38csc`saw that another guy had a veer with a similar issue
16:04.36csc`also nearly crapped myself when I looked for Forums and it wasn't there. I didn't know it went free in the app catalog
16:04.52csc`unless it just didn't install, and still is a paid application
16:05.14PatrickCi haven't used Forums in a while
16:05.26PatrickCis so happy
16:05.26csc`i use it from time to time
16:05.38csc`?
16:05.43PatrickCsuccessfully set up http://paste.pcontech.cz.cc/ and http://pcontech.cz.cc/downloads-website in the past day :)
16:05.56PatrickCi'm still new to webdev/sysadmin stuff. so it's kinda a big deal for me :P
16:08.20csc`oh if you need help with anything linux related lemme know
16:08.33PatrickCwill do
16:08.40csc`not an expert but i know my way around setting up websites usually
16:12.06csc`apparently it isnt free, just never installed when i doctored
16:12.08csc`weird
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16:19.05csc`has anyone EVER gotten dosbox to run without crashing luna on their phone?
16:19.24csc`i got it to happen maybe once on my pixi, but if you killed the window the phone would reboot
16:19.47PatrickCcsc`: question, you any good with mysql?
16:19.59csc`depends
16:20.07csc`in what subject?
16:20.11PatrickCneed to raise the default limit per input
16:20.32PatrickChave some things on my paste site that are going to be >20k lines, which is larger than 1MB
16:21.10csc`dunno advanced stuff like that
16:21.19PatrickChttps://gist.github.com/5255599 that's what i'm trying to do/the error i'm getting
16:21.20PatrickCahh ok
16:21.24csc`I write my own php library to use a flat file database
16:21.32csc`usually of my own design
16:21.39PatrickCgotcha
16:22.04csc`lately i have been lazy, I want to write an object to store the database in some sort of hierarchical form inside a zip archive
16:22.16csc`to greater improve my flat file database schemes
16:22.34csc`PatrickC, i can ask my friend, he's good with sql
16:22.46PatrickCactually, just got an answer from the #mysql channel :)
16:22.54PatrickCturns out my user doesn't have the SUPER privilage
16:23.00PatrickCpings his sysadmin
16:23.06csc`heh heh
16:23.22PatrickCbeauty of having your server on a friends massive VPS
16:23.36csc`eh i pay 5.75 a month for mine
16:23.41PatrickCnice
16:23.44PatrickCyou have root and all?
16:23.44csc`pretty decent specs too
16:23.47csc`yes
16:23.52PatrickCthat's pretty good
16:24.17csc`tb of bandwith, 25gb of space, static ip, one 3.2 or 3.5ghz core, and 1 gig of ram
16:24.21csc`OpenVZ
16:24.32PatrickCnice
16:24.45csc`PatrickC, if you're looking for your own, it could be fairly cheap and you dont even know it. Let me get you a link to something real quick
16:24.59PatrickCok
16:25.41csc`PatrickC, http://www.lowendbox.com/
16:25.54csc`hunt around on there, eventually you'll find a killer deal like I did
16:26.03csc`and my vps is hosted nearby too
16:26.06csc`:)
16:26.09PatrickCnice :)
16:26.18PatrickCi live near Nashville, so there are a lot of things close to me
16:26.36csc`im in LA, my vps is in dallas
16:26.46csc`louisiana, not los angeles
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16:43.32csc`gah
16:43.33csc`out of smokes
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17:30.53csc`neato
17:31.08csc`i managed to the psp emulator running on 1.4.5
18:04.27PatrickCnice csc`
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20:04.22dwc-PatrickC|Away: you woudln't want to SET GLOBAL it from there anyways
20:04.40dwc-otherwise it'll go away on restart anyways
20:07.06dwc-... and if you just set up a paste-y thing, why did you post that snippet to github instead....
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21:35.27rwhitbyPatrickC|Away: PRe3 has less available ram, cause some is used by the modem, whereas on the Pre2 the modem has it's own separate ram chip.
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