| 01:00.32 | *** join/#webos-internals Garfonso (~garfonso@ip-5-147-14-134.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 02:35.40 | *** join/#webos-internals lamawithonel_ (~lucas@38.127.149.74) |
| 03:16.43 | *** join/#webos-internals Guest11127 (Slayer@c-69-143-178-62.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 03:26.20 | *** join/#webos-internals Lammda_ (~xbian@p579463D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:28.21 | *** join/#webos-internals YeahRight (morgoth@52492510.cm-4-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 03:34.26 | *** join/#webos-internals virkony (~nikolay@curdless.injunction.volia.net) |
| 03:34.58 | *** join/#webos-internals virkony_work (~nikolay@84.47.179.183) |
| 03:40.08 | *** join/#webos-internals gdos (~proteanth@chyn187-221.hicap.wyoming.com) |
| 04:59.00 | *** join/#webos-internals venefyxatu (~venefyxat@unaffiliated/venefyxatu) |
| 06:22.04 | *** join/#webos-internals beezle-bug (~BUG@p5DDBB3BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:13.53 | *** join/#webos-internals Vince42 (~Thunderbi@89.204.135.60) |
| 07:26.26 | *** join/#webos-internals panel (~panel@193.93.73.73) |
| 07:42.31 | *** join/#webos-internals beezle-bug (~BUG@p5DDBB3BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:00.32 | *** join/#webos-internals pancro (~pancro@host86-146-147-224.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:01.04 | *** join/#webos-internals Lumiere (~jstraw@unaffiliated/jstraw) |
| 08:50.23 | *** join/#webos-internals beezle-bug (~BUG@p5DDBB3BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:58.19 | *** join/#webos-internals stefan_schmidt_w (~stefan_sc@82.43.26.66) |
| 09:20.42 | *** join/#webos-internals beezle-bug (~BUG@p5DDBB3BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:36.19 | *** join/#webos-internals joered (~pingus@93-58-161-247.ip159.fastwebnet.it) |
| 09:50.33 | *** join/#webos-internals pancro (~pancro@nat/canonical/x-mjwctrbloihhuchu) |
| 10:06.16 | *** join/#webos-internals beezle-bug (~BUG@p5DDBA971.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:39.12 | *** join/#webos-internals beezle-bug (~BUG@p5DDBA971.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:01.14 | *** join/#webos-internals sirdancealo2 (~sirdancea@194.228.11.188) |
| 11:36.40 | *** join/#webos-internals YeahRight (morgoth@52492510.cm-4-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 11:45.30 | *** join/#webos-internals earthnative (~nemo@59.167.208.146) |
| 12:45.10 | *** join/#webos-internals beezle-bug (~BUG@91-64-39-6-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 13:00.23 | *** join/#webos-internals beezle-bug (~BUG@91-64-39-6-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 13:33.41 | *** join/#webos-internals lamawithonel_ (~lucas@38.127.149.74) |
| 14:17.52 | *** join/#webos-internals gdos (~proteanth@chyn187-221.hicap.wyoming.com) |
| 14:25.54 | *** join/#webos-internals Shiggity_ (~Shiggity@146-115-188-66.c3-0.wtr-ubr1.sbo-wtr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 14:27.57 | *** join/#webos-internals Mrokii (~Mrokii@planeshift/bugs/Mrokii) |
| 14:29.02 | Mrokii | Hello. Is there a problem with the preware-servers? It seems I can't download any updates. The download message comes up but it doesn't actually download the updates. |
| 14:38.12 | HaDAk | i don't have my touchpad on hand to test |
| 14:38.23 | HaDAk | and i don't recall off teh top of my head if it logs or not |
| 14:38.54 | HaDAk | can you pull off /var/log/messages and push it up for analysis? |
| 14:39.02 | HaDAk | if it logs, that's where it should log to |
| 14:45.23 | Mrokii | I'll see if I can access the file. |
| 14:47.16 | HaDAk | if you've got the sdk installed, it should be trivial to pull it off. |
| 14:56.59 | Mrokii | I don't know if I have any kind of sdk installed. I just plugged my Pre 3 in, thinking there'd be a "/var" folder but I don't see it. (Looking at the folder structure via Terminal at the moment). |
| 15:00.26 | HaDAk | i'm going to be of limited help while i'm on this customer webex |
| 15:00.35 | Mrokii | Okay, no problem. |
| 15:00.37 | HaDAk | but while i'm waiting for them to connect, i'll try to dig up more instructions for you |
| 15:00.47 | HaDAk | if you don't hear from me for a while, i haven't forgotten ;D |
| 15:00.59 | Mrokii | No worries, I'm not in a hurry. |
| 15:01.46 | HaDAk | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Portal:Accessing_Linux |
| 15:01.53 | Mrokii | I was just wondering what was going on. It's strange that I can see that there are updates but that the updates themselves aren't downloaded.d |
| 15:02.07 | HaDAk | well, we won't know until we look at the logs |
| 15:02.15 | HaDAk | novaterm will get you a shell on it |
| 15:02.23 | HaDAk | from there, it's standard faire linux more or less |
| 15:02.48 | *** join/#webos-internals Garfonso (~garfonso@ip-5-147-14-134.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 15:03.24 | HaDAk | you can copy messages to the internal storage (if memory serves, it's /dev/mapper/store-media…but double check me on that) |
| 15:03.27 | HaDAk | and then yank it off |
| 15:06.21 | Mrokii | I'll try. Seems as if I did install the sdk at some point. :) |
| 15:07.04 | HaDAk | it's helpful that webos is so open. we can actually get in and properly troubleshoot stuff with real tools. |
| 15:10.24 | Mrokii | So what is store-media exactly? How do I copy something to it? Something like "cp /var/log/messages /dev/mapper/store-media"? |
| 15:10.43 | HaDAk | yeah |
| 15:10.53 | HaDAk | it's the sdcard partition more or less |
| 15:10.58 | HaDAk | can't remember the exact path |
| 15:11.05 | Mrokii | Okay, I'll try. |
| 15:13.22 | Mrokii | And after the cp-command? |
| 15:17.47 | HaDAk | once it's on the sd card, you should be able to pull it off in disk mode |
| 15:17.56 | HaDAk | then pop it up somewhere and send me a link to dig through |
| 15:18.55 | Mrokii | I think that cp-command broke something, possibly overwritng store-media, not sure. Luckily I had made a backup. |
| 15:19.34 | HaDAk | well, i did say double check the path. :P |
| 15:19.47 | Mrokii | Well, I don't know what path I should use. |
| 15:20.33 | HaDAk | give me a second to get off this call. |
| 15:20.45 | Mrokii | Sure. And thanks. |
| 15:22.03 | Mrokii | The files I have in /dev/mapper/ are "control" and a bunch of files which all start with "store-": cryptodb, crptofilecache, filecache, log, media, mojodb, root, swap, update and var. |
| 15:37.48 | *** join/#webos-internals hemna_ (~hemna@c-38-80-203-115.rw.zetabroadband.com) |
| 15:37.50 | *** join/#webos-internals beezle-bug (~BUG@91-64-39-6-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 15:44.49 | *** join/#webos-internals beezle-bug (~BUG@91-64-39-6-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 16:01.06 | *** join/#webos-internals OkiKuma (~lammda@p579463D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:03.21 | *** join/#webos-internals gdos (~proteanth@216.67.187.221) |
| 16:03.43 | Mrokii | HaDAk: I think by breaking the phone I fixed the problem with PreWare. :) |
| 16:04.32 | Mrokii | I rebooted the device as the backup-file of store-media didn't work properly. I had to reinstall Preware but now it downloaded and installed the app I wanted to have. |
| 16:09.36 | HaDAk | XD |
| 16:09.41 | HaDAk | excellent |
| 16:09.47 | HaDAk | sorry, i had some stuff come up |
| 16:09.52 | HaDAk | i've gotta run now, but i'll be back in a bit. |
| 16:52.28 | *** join/#webos-internals HaDAk (~skipmeist@c-71-227-127-64.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 16:54.28 | HaDAk | is back. |
| 16:54.52 | HaDAk | so, you said that preware was able to install the app? |
| 16:54.57 | HaDAk | you're good to go? |
| 16:55.16 | Mrokii | I have a new problem now. I installed FreeTether and it works but it seems I can't change the network connection from "open" to anything else. It doesn't seem as the list reacts to clicks. |
| 16:55.20 | Mrokii | HaDAk: Yep. |
| 16:55.32 | Mrokii | Installing apps works again. |
| 16:55.44 | Mrokii | Seems everything works. |
| 16:55.53 | HaDAk | iirc, you can install lumberjack to watch the logs for freetether |
| 16:56.07 | HaDAk | it'll just troll /var/log/messages and snipe out freetether stuff |
| 16:56.24 | Mrokii | Interesting. |
| 17:06.07 | Mrokii | I can open WiFi Prefs but then I can't change the option for "security" which is set to "Open". Lumberjack doesn't show any errors. The only messages are "About to activate scene wifiPrefs" and ""transition ended", which I assume is to show the prefs. But actually changing an option does nothing. |
| 17:11.29 | HaDAk | right |
| 17:11.32 | HaDAk | hum |
| 17:18.12 | Mrokii | Not particularly intriguing to have a wide open WiFi Network for everyone around to join. :) |
| 17:18.38 | HaDAk | yeah. it's hard for me to test it, too. i gave my pre2 to my sister last week >_> |
| 17:19.20 | HaDAk | i mean, try to switch it, and send me messages to see if i can find anything, i guess |
| 17:20.14 | Mrokii | It's fine. It will be a temporary solution only anyway. |
| 17:20.24 | Mrokii | Thanks for the help. |
| 17:21.41 | Mrokii | I guess I'll get rid soon of the Pre 3 to get something more up to date. |
| 17:24.08 | HaDAk | what carrier? |
| 17:28.04 | Mrokii | I'm in Germany, using "1&1". |
| 17:28.13 | Mrokii | And I need to leave now. |
| 17:28.14 | HaDAk | germany, so GSM |
| 17:28.19 | HaDAk | waves |
| 17:28.43 | Mrokii | Why, do you need a Pre 3? :) |
| 17:28.56 | HaDAk | maybe so :) |
| 17:28.57 | Mrokii | I'll stay in here, just in case, but will be afk now. |
| 17:29.14 | HaDAk | i'd like to get my hands on a GSM pre3, yes. |
| 17:29.25 | Mrokii | Maybe we can make a deal then. :) |
| 17:29.37 | HaDAk | :) |
| 17:29.45 | Mrokii | Anyhow, I need to leave. |
| 17:29.47 | Mrokii | -gone- |
| 17:36.06 | *** join/#webos-internals Lazar_Dobrescu (~Lazar@vps3.mongeau.name) |
| 19:39.59 | dwc- | so, the "drive" exposed from the terminal on your mac is just the /media/internal partition |
| 19:40.03 | dwc- | which is why /var didn't exist |
| 19:40.12 | HaDAk | ahh, right |
| 19:40.16 | HaDAk | thanks for the memory jog, dwc- |
| 19:40.31 | HaDAk | i couldn't remember the mount point |
| 19:40.31 | dwc- | so you should have put the ifles there instead of wherever /dev/mapper/store-media points to, which is part of LVM |
| 19:40.59 | HaDAk | right. |
| 19:41.06 | HaDAk | i couldn't remember. i tried to make that clear to him :) |
| 19:41.10 | dwc- | I've had some issues with freetether on my pre3 |
| 19:41.37 | dwc- | both that and the hotspot app don't seem to consistently set ip_forward |
| 19:42.15 | HaDAk | i wonder why that is. |
| 19:42.37 | dwc- | dunno, but I haven't had the motivation to try to figure that out |
| 19:42.47 | dwc- | (but I do have a shell script that I run from a terminal that turns it on) |
| 20:17.11 | *** join/#webos-internals Shiggs|i5-2500k (~Shiggity@146-115-188-66.c3-0.wtr-ubr1.sbo-wtr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 21:00.35 | *** join/#webos-internals sirdancealo2 (~sirdancea@194.228.11.188) |
| 21:24.59 | *** join/#webos-internals sirdancealo2 (~sirdancea@194.228.11.188) |
| 21:55.00 | *** join/#webos-internals Lazar_Dobrescu (~Lazar@vps3.mongeau.name) |
| 21:59.35 | *** join/#webos-internals scorche (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) |
| 22:13.14 | *** join/#webos-internals mattehw (~mattehw@CPEbcc8100336ba-CMbcc8100336b7.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 22:28.05 | *** join/#webos-internals pancro (~pancro@host86-146-147-224.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:48.20 | *** join/#webos-internals mattehw_ (~mattehw@CPEbcc8100336ba-CMbcc8100336b7.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:01.26 | *** join/#webos-internals virkony (~nikolay@curdless.injunction.volia.net) |
| 23:47.35 | *** join/#webos-internals mattehw (~mattehw@CPEbcc8100336ba-CMbcc8100336b7.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |