IRC log for #webos-watercooler on 20100107

00:07.06Templarianis still excited. :)
00:07.21Eguylol
00:07.33EguyT - 2 hours 30 minutes
00:08.31EguyI wonder how crazy Ballmer is going to be tonight
00:08.43EguyI am looking forward to a Natal release date
00:08.44TemplarianBlamer is my favorite CEO.
00:08.51EguyOh, he is the best CEO
00:09.12TemplarianThey showed it off today during an interview.
00:09.26Mouseyjesus
00:09.27EguyCrazy? Check. Smart? Check. Developers, developers, developers, developers, developers? Check.
00:09.27TemplarianNot showed off as explained.
00:09.47TemplarianAll the great men are a little crazy.
00:09.54Templarian(someone said that wish I could remember)
00:09.56Mouseyall tyrants are too
00:10.02Eguy~steve ballmer
00:10.03infobothmm... steve ballmer is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk
00:10.37Eguyinfobot, steve ballmer is also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc&feature=related
00:10.38infobotEguy: okay
00:11.03EguyI. LOVE. THIS. COMPANY.
00:11.36TemplarianBetter than a cult leader. :)
00:12.50TemplarianSome really nice LCD's today and other devices.
00:12.51EguyIs the Nexus One better than the HTC Bravo?
00:12.57TemplarianYEa.
00:13.00TemplarianOLED screen.
00:13.00EguyI'm trying to figure out
00:13.04Eguyah
00:13.05Templarian1ghz processor
00:13.13EguyBravo has snapdragon also
00:13.20TemplarianWifi-N
00:13.25Eguyand AMOLED
00:13.31EguyI think it is the same phone
00:13.50Eguyoh no wifi as of yet on the Bravo
00:14.04Eguyoh it is on vzw no wonder
00:14.04TemplarianNexus looks better.
00:14.13Eguyno way
00:14.17Eguythe Bravo is the HD2
00:15.19TemplarianOh
00:15.24Eguyno hardware keyboard on either though :(
00:15.26Eguyfail
00:15.40TemplarianHD2 is sexier agreed.
00:15.48Eguywell the Bravo is the HD2 with a 3.7" screen
00:15.56Eguydoesn't have the 4.3"
00:16.02Eguyand runs android
00:16.13Templarianwell the bravo looks ugly.
00:16.40Eguynobody has seen it yet
00:16.54Mouseyno hardware keyboard?
00:16.59Mouseyno deal
00:17.03Eguysrsly
00:17.04TemplarianOh the google was just concepts didn't know
00:17.15TemplarianYea, I'm a keyboard person also.
00:17.20EguyI don't buy phones without hardware keyboards
00:17.32Mouseythats like buying a TV without a remote
00:17.38Eguylol
00:17.54Templarianlol
00:18.01EguyI picked up my 700p today and my god that keyboard is huge
00:18.06Eguyand the phone is huge
00:18.12Eguyand heavy
00:18.56Eguyhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/passiveaggressive/3679328289/sizes/o/in/set-72157622862553017/
00:18.57EguyLOL
00:19.44TemplarianSeen stuff like that before.
00:20.03Templarian"Quite Sex is Good Sex" at my friends appt.
00:20.43TemplarianAlso turns out my fillings are silver, didn't know that.
00:21.26EguyI have too many wifi devices to make a cool SSID
00:21.42Eguyhttp://i.imgur.com/Y8AFt.jpg lol.
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01:59.06Templariangkatsev: who won the big gay battle?
01:59.39EguyT- 30 minutes
02:03.34gkatsevsomehow, i had no idea that ian mckellen was gay...
02:03.50gkatsevTemplarian: NPH won 60% to JBs 30%
02:04.04gkatsevhttp://www.afterelton.com/people/2010/01/man-of-decade-results
02:04.47EguyI don't even know who any of those people are
02:05.00Eguyexcept Takei and NPH
02:05.49gkatsevjohn barrowman plays captain jack harkness in torchwood and doctor who, perhaps his most famous role
02:05.58gkatsevEguy: you dont know who ian mckellen is?
02:06.03Eguynope
02:06.18Eguyah, I don't watch Doctor Who
02:06.26TemplarianThe dual screen MSI is pretty nice
02:06.41gkatsevEguy: ian mckellen aka gandlaf aka magneto
02:06.50Eguyoh
02:06.54Eguyfrom xmen
02:07.02EguyHe is gay?
02:07.27Eguyyeah Templarian: that is really sweet
02:07.47gkatsevEguy: yeah, apparently.
02:07.56gkatsevcame out in 1988
02:07.56EguyI would not have thought
02:08.10EguyC3PO yes, magneto...maybe?
02:08.16gkatsevlol
02:08.17gkatsevbrb
02:08.57Eguydamn moto brought out the android this year
02:09.48Eguyoh my good god in heaven http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/panasonic-does-it-again-introduces-152-inch-3d-4k-hdtv/
02:10.32EguyNo words can be used for that tv
02:11.02TemplarianNone.
02:11.14EguyThat is just "____"
02:11.26EguyI don't even know how that is possible to make
02:15.09TemplarianIt BEGINS!
02:15.32Eguywhere?
02:18.08Templarianengadget I'm just reading it.
02:18.18Eguyoh
02:18.21TemplarianWatching Modern Family
02:18.26Eguynobody is on stage yet
02:18.44Eguyyou can watch it live at www.microsoft.com/ces
02:20.06TemplarianI know, I'm watching the show with my mom didn't want to annoy her.
02:20.15Eguylol
02:29.10Eguythis is exciting
02:31.10TemplarianWhere is the direct link to the video stream
02:31.24Eguythe stream isn't up yet for some reason
02:31.30Eguyoh well...back to engadget
02:32.31EguyIt's not live anymore it is 6:32
02:35.05Templarianrefresh every 15sec
02:35.09Eguycomputers must be booting
02:35.15Eguyif it is taking so long
02:35.21EguyLOL
02:35.26Eguysmall power problem
02:36.00Eguyoh man, how fitting for microsoft
02:36.40TemplarianTrending topic on Twitter is CES
02:37.06EguyLOL the computers on stage died
02:37.20Eguythat explains the live stream being off
02:37.38EguyI bet steve jobs cut the power to the building
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02:38.30TemplarianProbably some geek plugging in one more device.
02:38.32EguyI love how engadget uses macs
02:38.45TemplarianNot all of them
02:38.47Eguyprobably for lighted keyboards
02:38.57EguyJT is using one
02:39.12TemplarianOne of the engadget guys uses PC and he gets flack all the time for it.
02:39.19Eguylol
02:39.28EguyProbably Paul Miller
02:39.36EguyNilay is the biggest apple fanboy
02:39.45TemplarianI think it's Paul.
02:39.51TemplarianNilay needs to choke and die.
02:39.58TemplarianEvery f'ing podcast.
02:40.03EguyOkay, auxiliary lighting has just come on. "Good evening ladies and gentlemen, as you can see we have power again. We're going to begin again in about 5 minutes." "It's a good time to silence your cellphones, PAGERS, and... Windows Mobile devices."
02:40.06EguyROFL!!!!!!!!!!
02:40.12Eguywindows mobile devices
02:40.25TemplarianYea, I'm reading it and loled.
02:40.42EguyIt's a trap!
02:40.55Eguystream is up
02:41.00Eguyneeds silverlight LOL
02:41.26TemplarianGod I hate engadget.
02:41.29Eguythankfully silverlight > flash and it actually works
02:41.33TemplarianWho doesn't have silverlight.
02:41.59Eguysilverlight has hardware acceleration
02:42.06Eguyso it doesn't lag like a bitch
02:42.21Eguylol recovery mode
02:42.37TemplarianI can't get it to stream yet
02:43.05Eguycouple of computers on stage are in recovery mode lol
02:43.22TemplarianOf course they killed the power.
02:43.31Eguysteve jobs did
02:43.41TemplarianYep, too bad he died.
02:43.50EguyI can't wait to hear what ballmer says about the power loss
02:44.07Eguyshould be good
02:44.22Templarian"Haha, just kiding."
02:45.01Eguy"we wanted to show the boot time of windows 7"
02:45.13Eguylive stream says 5 minutes
02:45.36Eguythe music is really bad
02:46.42Eguy"show is about to begin"
02:49.43TemplarianDamn engadget prepared their servers for this, they aren't even flinching
02:49.51Eguyhaha yeah
02:50.00Eguythey lied about the 5 minutes
02:50.08Eguystream still says show is about to begin
02:50.23Templarian"Can you feel it coming in the air tonight? Oh lord."
02:50.26Eguyah it just went live
02:50.32Eguycan you see the stream?
02:51.17Templarianno not yet
02:51.23Eguyweird
02:51.32Eguythe stream just went to live video
02:51.58Eguymassive screens in the back
02:52.31Eguythere is almost a laptop in every seat lol
02:52.35TemplarianYea, I don't know you are a lot closer to the servers than me.
02:52.53Eguyvery close
02:53.21Eguyballmer probably fainted in the back from sweating so much
02:53.36Templariantomorrow is free day at sparkfun, don't know if you are into EE.
02:53.45Templarian(starts at 3 in the morning your time lol)
02:53.55Eguyuh yeah, I will be sleeping then
02:53.56Eguylol
02:54.03TemplarianNah, he just drank an entire cooler of water he's good.
02:54.19EguyI didn't know he was born in detroit
02:54.25TemplarianMy bro has his laptop setup and is going to wake up at 6:00 for it
02:54.30EguyHE WE GO
02:55.35Eguygreat
02:55.42Eguyaudio keeps getting cut off
02:57.19TemplarianI don't think this video stream is going to work it's not stable enough I can't even connect
02:57.24Eguyfinally
02:57.28Eguyit's working for me just fine
02:57.40TemplarianWhy is everyone calling a tablet a slate now
02:57.51Eguydon't know
02:57.52TemplarianIt's got dual screens it's a f'ing tablet.
02:58.00Eguyfuck HP
02:58.57Eguystream is about 45 seconds delayed
02:59.02TemplarianIf they fuck this up.... heads will roll.
02:59.03Eguyfrom engadget
02:59.16Eguywell if HP makes the hardware, it will be a fuckup
03:00.23Eguylol bing
03:00.52gkatsevmeh, so, my wirelss card now works in linux, except that it keeps reconnecting every few minutes if I am using WPA encryption, but without encryption, it has no problems
03:01.02Eguyintel?
03:01.06gkatsevedimax
03:01.22Eguylol red sweater
03:01.30gkatsevits a good card, works great on windows.
03:01.47gkatsevthankfully they have great email support. at least, they respond to me quickly
03:01.52Eguyno apologies for power outage
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03:02.01Eguynever head of edimax
03:02.07gkatsevralink tech
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03:02.12Eguyah
03:02.15Eguythat makes sense
03:02.15egaudetWHE alert WHE alert
03:02.18TemplarianI told people to join
03:02.18zsocok so tell me what happens so i can be lazy
03:02.38EguyLOL
03:02.40gkatsevthe reason it didnt work in the first place is because while the driver is now included in 9.10, the RT2680STA.dat file is missing...
03:02.41TemplarianSteve is looking hot.
03:02.44Eguyseth myers
03:02.46Bmyerswhat
03:02.49zsocalso, there's something i always wanted to say to you webos people
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03:03.11TemplarianThis is probably the wrong channel, we only reap the benifits of webos here.
03:03.20Eguywebos is a piece of shit....
03:03.22gkatsevzsoc: are you coming out? sorry, but you missed the #biggaybattle
03:03.29EguyI don't know why people use it
03:03.31TemplarianWindows Mobile 7 all the way!
03:03.32Eguypalm sucks
03:03.44Eguy:P
03:03.48jacqueswell, this was worth the trip ...
03:03.53TemplarianMy friend knows nothing at all and they just hired him, tell me palm is thinking.
03:03.56zsocjacques: lol
03:04.06Eguythis is a great video
03:04.08Templarianlol at seth
03:04.11Eguygood job microsoft
03:04.20zsocTemplarian: can he make coffee? :P
03:04.35EguyLOL twitter
03:05.03TemplarianCES just jumped to trending topic in a matter of minutes btw I was watching earlier.
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03:05.49Eguy"screens everywhere"
03:05.56Eguy2) cloud
03:06.14Templarianwishes the sound worked for this stream, must be too far away.
03:06.16Eguy3) NUI
03:06.16zsocLOL THE PC'S ON THE STAGE ASKING ABOUT SAFE MODE
03:06.17zsocahahah
03:06.22Eguyyeah
03:06.29TemplarianAll I see is screens.
03:06.29Eguythe power went out
03:06.45TemplarianCES venue failed.
03:06.46Eguyadamo XPS
03:06.51acydlordpower didnt go out, they had to reboot windows =x
03:07.04Templarianacydlord: luckily it reboots amazingly fast.
03:07.05Eguy"we bing, we bing, we bing, bing bing bing" copyright 2009
03:07.10jacqueslol
03:07.32Templarianlol, awesome.
03:07.34acydlordTemplarian, yeah, it only took them almost a half hour
03:07.35Eguyaudio just lost left channel
03:07.41Eguyit's back
03:07.48acydlordoh snap, BING BING BING is gonna be the new developers
03:07.52Eguyyeah
03:08.03zsoclol @ pushing bing
03:08.07Eguyor new ricky martin song
03:08.07zsocms is such a joke
03:08.10TemplarianI want a Google CES where they admit they are skynet.
03:08.19Eguyshe bings, she beings
03:08.23Eguybings*
03:08.30Eguylol skynet
03:08.32Templarianacydlord: calm don't guy tux still loves you if you use windows.
03:08.41Templariandown*
03:08.45Eguyoh hell
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03:08.51Eguyengadget quote
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03:08.56TemplarianEngadget lol
03:09.02acydlordTemplarian, i'm using a steve balmer special edition of win7 at the moment lol
03:09.18Eguyacydlord: does it randomly yell at you to get on your feet?
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03:09.26gkatsevseriously? he yelled bing bing bing?
03:09.27Eguyand yell out developers
03:09.33Eguyoh yes, he did
03:09.38acydlordEguy, it yells at me for using a pre instead of a winmo
03:09.44gkatsevat least developers developers developers is cool
03:09.48Eguycheck back tomorrow for bing bing bing remix on youtube
03:09.54Toaster89hi
03:09.59acydlordEguy, exactly
03:10.03TemplarianI wish ballmer was my dad (grandpa?)
03:10.14EguyHi Toaster89
03:10.16acydlordi think the music they used to intro him was the techno in the developers remix
03:10.22Eguylol
03:10.27gkatsevthe msi dualscreen thing is sexy
03:10.29TemplarianI always forgot just how much xbox 360 dominates the market.
03:10.36EguyXBL will never be 2nd
03:10.45EguySony will never win
03:10.49Templarian"Search Engine Land"
03:11.08TemplarianThey make a nice blu-ray player. (hehe)
03:11.13Eguybing is a decision engine- makes you decide to use google
03:11.24acydlordlol
03:11.31acydlordbing, it gives you opras tweets
03:11.39haeffbTemplarian: what will I learn by being here?
03:11.46Eguyhe just fumbled a line on the script
03:11.51gkatsevhttp://twitter.com/Ihnatko/status/7464568729
03:11.58Templarianhaeffb: everything.
03:12.13Eguyhaeffb: everything important in life
03:12.15TemplarianSync. Saw that coming.
03:12.26Eguyyeah here comes fords shitty cars
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03:12.54haeffbawesome!
03:12.56TemplarianFord tries... too bad not hard enough.
03:13.05acydlordok, so they are telling us about old news
03:13.06Eguydamn engadget is doing a good job at keeping up
03:13.16acydlordi thought CES was to talk about new things
03:13.20Eguywww.microsoft.com/ces for live stream
03:13.21Templarianacydlord: exactly, but we are waiting for Courier.
03:13.25Eguy(btw)
03:13.31gkatsevEguy: hey, mustangs are awesome
03:13.39Eguythey suck
03:13.51gkatsevnot saying there arent better cars
03:13.57gkatsevbut still awesome
03:13.59EguyThe new Camaro looks nice though
03:14.16Eguybut looks nice and drives nice are separate things
03:14.37acydlordand also in new news, windows95 SP2 is available for download
03:14.42TemplarianGood he's skipping over phones.
03:14.48EguyHD2
03:14.55Eguyso sexy
03:15.00Eguywindows 7....
03:15.00rwhitbybad fingerprints
03:15.06Templarianacydlord: we found a Windows 95 disc in the back of my old office on monday.
03:15.27Eguygizmodo quote?
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03:15.31Eguyfail ballmer, fail
03:15.48acydlordhaha Templarian when i was cleaning my old office I found NT 4.0 MCSE manuals and guidebooks
03:15.50TemplarianWanted to go search the internet for a bit with IE3? Just to mess up some web statistics for browsers.
03:16.04Eguylol
03:16.13acydlordI wonder how much xanax they pumped into him so he doesnt act like a crackhead
03:16.26Eguyquite a lot
03:16.27Templarian2 doses like usual.
03:16.35acydlordTemplarian, i keep a copy of mosaic installed just for that reason
03:16.46Eguyhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/microsoft-ces-keynote-pr-leaks-early-hp-slate-device-is-just-a/
03:16.47EguyTemplarian
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03:16.53rwhitbyAUSTRALIA !!!
03:17.05Eguyno courier
03:17.11EguyFAIL in capitals
03:17.12dangerskewSo it's looking more amd more like the Unreal engine will actually be coming to WebOS.  Ballmer just mentioned the Zune HD in the keynote and said absolutely nothing about its apps.
03:17.49TemplarianEguy: NOOOOOO
03:18.00Eguymore windows 7 nonsense...
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03:18.05TemplarianI'm so depressed right now, but I guess I can't wait.
03:18.22EguyIt is just a "HP Slate"
03:18.24EguyWTF
03:18.54dangerskewMabye MS is just waiting for Apple to go ahead and announce the iSlate so they can steal their thunder later.  Cause I'm honestly MUCH more interested in Courier than a giant iPod Touch
03:18.56acydlordthere was another device leaked that looked like the courier, i forgot who made it
03:19.00TemplarianEguy: I'm actually releaved it's not made by HP
03:19.22EguyiSlate is going to be a giant piece of shit
03:19.29Eguywell actually small
03:19.34Eguy7" piece of shit
03:19.40TemplarianSmall black chrome pos.
03:19.43dangerskewacydlord: That's made by MSI.  Its just a folding dual-screen Win7 Atom notebook without a keyboard
03:19.54EguyTemplarian: it is made by HP
03:19.57acydlorddangerskew, thanks, thats what it was
03:19.58TemplarianThe MSI one is still pretty cool.
03:20.17dangerskewYeah, I'll be interested to see it once the software improves
03:20.18TemplarianEguy: oh it is, are you sure I think they just said that because of the leaked info.
03:20.24acydlordi might get that ereader that sprint is gonna carry
03:20.35dangerskewMe too, depending on price.
03:20.36EguyBallmer hasn't taken a breath yet
03:20.54dangerskewYeah, he seems to be getting louder and louder too
03:21.05Eguywell that is how he is
03:21.07acydlordyeah, he's getting twitchy
03:21.14Eguypills are wearing off
03:21.21dangerskewpills here
03:21.22acydlordsounds like they turned up the gain on the feed
03:21.32acydlordi was complaining to microsoft peeps about that lol
03:21.36Eguyhere comes bullshit!
03:21.45rwhitbyis everyone bald at microsoft?
03:21.51acydlordi want to see a 200" BSOD
03:22.04EguyMOAR HP hardware that breaks!
03:22.23dangerskewAll-in-one's are good for dorm rooms? okay.....
03:22.33EguyYes rwhitby, it is a job requirement
03:22.49EguyLOL
03:22.53dangerskewwow....
03:22.58Eguy"Being in vegas, you got to look sexy"
03:23.03Eguycoming from that guy?
03:23.26TemplarianAbout to say, that dude is the worst dresser, josh seriously needs help.
03:23.27EguyAdamo XPS...ooooo underpowered piece of garbage
03:23.35dangerskewand sooo overpriced
03:23.50dangerskewahhh, ah-soos. I still say ay-sus
03:23.55acydlordhas the processing power of those 4 poker chips too
03:23.56Eguyb&o speakers on a laptop? wtf
03:24.32Eguyhe is showing off something called a laptop
03:24.37acydlordb&o is the new polk
03:24.41dangerskewThat Envy15 is sexy.  If only it weren't so expensive.
03:24.56EguyDX11 by AMD, thanks, I will pass
03:24.58TemplarianThe Envy 133 was the sexiest laptop they need to bring it back.
03:25.02EguyGTX 3XX FTW
03:25.03acydlordi'm glad microsoft is telling me about these newfangled laptop thingers
03:25.20EguyLaptops.... thanks microsoft!
03:25.23haeffbis still using Win2k at work. Is that bad?
03:25.28EguyI never know about that!
03:25.39acydlordi wanna see them run doom on that though
03:25.43EguyWOAH 3D laptop!
03:25.49Eguyno way!
03:25.54acydlordi mean we can run doom on the pre, can they run doom on that laptop thinger?
03:25.59dangerskewBatman: AA is amazing in 3D.  I got those nvidia glasses for x-mas
03:26.00Eguygeforce vision has been out for months
03:26.14acydlordeverything they are showing is OLD
03:26.18Eguyyup
03:26.32Eguythey showed all these at the windows 7 launch "party"
03:27.24Eguythis is not going to go well...
03:27.25dangerskewWINDOWS 7 IS NOT NEW
03:27.26acydlordi dont think i want that tv
03:27.48EguyBLIO!
03:27.52EguyAWESOME!
03:28.04TemplarianYea, I don't really understand the old references... expected new stuff.
03:28.25dangerskewBlio actually kinda looks cool
03:28.56EguyIt will never catch on though
03:29.02Eguyunless it was in the itunes store
03:29.09dangerskewWhat a shame
03:29.49Eguyoffice 2010, well played microsoft
03:30.22dangerskewi'm not impressed by office 2010, the beta was way too like 2007
03:30.37rwhitbyaseus, neyekon
03:30.49EguyI liked Office 2010
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03:30.53Eguy2007 sucked
03:30.57acydlordi like openoffice
03:31.07gkatsev2007 was good, i think. 2010 is better
03:31.24dangerskewI hated 2007, I'm all openoffice now
03:31.28Eguywhat student is actually going to use that
03:31.30Templarianoffice 2010 funny, body body body no devs devs devs
03:31.36Templariandangerskew: oo sucks.
03:31.38dangerskewthose are pretty cool transitions though
03:31.39EguyLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03:31.44TemplarianIt's sooo bad.
03:31.47Eguydevelopers developers developers
03:31.50Templarian2010 is amazing.
03:31.56Eguynice, ballmer
03:32.13acydlordthis picture explains everything about this ces of old info http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2007/01/27/business/20070128_BALLMER_SLIDESHOW_2.html
03:32.25dangerskewlol, they're easily distracted like real students
03:32.32Eguywatching youtube
03:33.19Eguygood job bing, you finally have street view
03:33.38TemplarianDream job.
03:33.52Eguyhere comes media center
03:34.02rwhitbywow, you can see streets on a browser?
03:34.11TemplarianThere needs to be an award for those taking a picture of eachother.
03:34.12dangerskewthis is the WRONG presentation for CES.....
03:34.30EguyI have been using windows media center for my tv since 2005
03:34.34Eguynothing new to see here
03:34.38TemplarianDefinately the wrong presentation, but they WMC stuff is nice.
03:34.59TemplarianEguy: the upgrades on WMC are pretty large.
03:35.02dangerskewcablecard isn't easy for htpcs yet...
03:35.08EguyI don't have a cablecard tuner yet though
03:35.15EguyI have a dual analog tuner
03:35.39TemplarianI've only used the analog tuner, haven't seen or tired a cable card yet.
03:35.53Eguythe quad cablecard tuner isn't for sale yet
03:36.01Eguyit should be $400 though
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03:36.19Eguylol media center just crashed
03:36.25dangerskewyeah i heard that too
03:36.29rwhitbyheh, crahs
03:36.42dangerskewMS is just afraid of HTPC's dying
03:36.55Eguymy main computer is a HTPC
03:37.00acydlordlol @ them blaming the crash on the power outage
03:37.22TemplarianViewsonic is having fun with laptops.
03:37.33Eguynever use flip 3d with windows media center
03:38.07TemplarianI use it. Way better than the alt tab when one has 20+ apps
03:38.24Eguythis is getting really really really bad
03:38.27dangerskewlol ballmer saying what happens in vegas stays in vegas
03:38.54dangerskewmakes me want to see the hangover with ballmer as a character
03:39.03Eguythat would be pretty insane
03:39.22Eguyhe would make a good wedding singer
03:39.29dangerskewSo what time is palm's presentation tomorrow?
03:40.01EguyIf palm fails like microsoft tonight, that would be bad. I have much higher expectations from them tomorrow
03:40.21TemplarianI don't, I really don't see how theirs could not suck.
03:40.33TemplarianHell webos-internals has done more in a few days than they may have.
03:40.41Eguytrue
03:40.51EguyPalm should just outsource all work to webos-internals
03:40.53dangerskewI think palm will actually be one of the best presentations if not the best of CES.  Everything has been about 3D tv's so far
03:40.55Eguyright rwhitby?
03:41.16TemplarianAgreed, CES has had low expectation levels.
03:41.45Eguycourier will have to wait until after mac world
03:41.46dangerskewAnd 3D isn't even new.  I play games in 3D on my mitsubishi dlp all the time
03:41.57rwhitbyoh, microsoft invented software?
03:42.04dangerskewI thought Apple wasn't going to MacWorld this year?
03:42.22Eguywho cares
03:42.25Eguyapple sucks
03:42.34Eguyanother HD2
03:42.34Bmyersapple gives hugs...
03:42.42Eguythat phone is freaking sexy
03:42.45Bmyersthey are the saturn of computers..
03:43.06Eguythey are the Uranus of companies
03:43.07TemplarianApple is a dying and android is sucking the market slowly.
03:43.15dangerskewThe HD2 would be amazing with either Android or ven WebOS
03:43.27EguyHD2 with android = HTC Bravo
03:43.34Eguycoming to verizon later this year
03:43.42TemplarianAlthough on a side note they are upgrading my office to windows 7 finally.
03:43.48dangerskewThe screen isnt as huge though
03:44.15Eguyhere are the slates
03:44.19dangerskewThey need to get Twilight off that e-reader NOW.
03:44.27dangerskewer, tablet
03:44.39Eguythe archos is so laggy LOL
03:45.09TemplarianThey need to rethink the whole slate with such a weak processor.
03:45.37Eguyno hp, no
03:45.50Eguyprobably has atom
03:45.50TemplarianIf it had a nice wacom screen it could be nice t draw on but nothing more.
03:45.57dangerskewYeah, I'd consider one with at least a Core 2 Duo but not with atom
03:46.12EguyI would laugh so hard if he dropped it
03:46.17Eguythe prototype
03:46.23dangerskewBut I think slates are going to steal the e-reader market.
03:46.36acydlorddangerskew, exactly
03:46.48acydlordor that slate convertable that connects to a netbook
03:47.16dangerskewI want a 2 sided slate. 1 side e-ink, the other a color LCD
03:47.31Eguythat would be expensive
03:47.38dangerskewYeah.
03:47.42EguyLOL seth myers again
03:47.44acydlorddoesnt need to be 2sided for that
03:48.10acydlordtransreflective color lcd
03:48.22dangerskewLOL dial-up porn
03:48.26Eguyyes
03:48.27EguyLOL
03:49.02EguyHere comes Natal
03:49.33dangerskewNatal better not have much delay. I want to like it, i really do. But a delay would absolutely kill it.
03:49.42TemplarianI want dual OLED screens.
03:49.54EguyJimmy Fallon had it on his show and there was no delay
03:50.03EguyThis keynote is rubbish
03:50.07acydlordi want displays i can get my eyes replaced with
03:50.16dangerskewYeah I've seen the videos, but I'm skeptical until I actually try it myself.
03:50.17EguyMS is just giving a sales conference
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03:51.02dangerskewOLED screens are amazing. In the dark I can't tell where my zune's screen ends
03:51.19acydlordthey havent shown a production model of the natal yet, every version that has been displayed requires a computer
03:51.19Eguyis still on the Zune 120
03:51.24TemplarianJust how it should be clear fluid backlight.
03:51.30Templarian(without a backlight hehe)
03:51.48TemplarianThey are recapping the facebook and twitter and awesome games...
03:51.58Eguyyeah
03:52.04dangerskew360 has no good exclusives anymore...
03:52.05Eguywelcome to november!
03:52.18TemplarianMass Effect 2 did get top 10 games for 2010 by PC Gamer, so.
03:52.24EguyPS3 never had good exclusives
03:52.37acydlorduncharted2 was good
03:52.41TemplarianThey have that uncharted game.
03:52.42acydlordand gran turismo
03:52.47Eguybleh
03:52.48dangerskewwell right now ps3 has more good exclusives than 360.
03:52.54EguyForza 3 is better than GT5
03:52.57dangerskewoooh Alan Wake
03:53.19TemplarianThat game is going to be badass.
03:53.29Eguyprobably
03:53.30dangerskewForza 3 is worse than GT5 simply because it doesn't support logitech's steering wheels
03:53.37TemplarianGuys how is MAG?
03:53.37Eguywrong
03:53.47EguyI use a logitech wheel with Forza 3
03:54.01TemplarianAbout to say steering wheels work.
03:54.12acydlordi <3 mag
03:54.19acydlordbeen in since the first beta wave
03:54.20dangerskewWhich one? I have a Driving Force Pro and my buddy has the G25 and neither work with Forza
03:54.31EguyDrive FX
03:54.34EguyForce*
03:54.42acydlordg35 wheel is nice
03:54.43Templarianacydlord: hows things holding up with all the demo people?
03:54.46dangerskewNOOO
03:54.46EguyG25 is a ripoff
03:55.02EguyLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03:55.11dangerskewYeah, Its a nice wheel but its all luxury.  It plays exactly the same as my Driving force pro
03:55.15acydlordTemplarian, its holding up good, they seem to have their servers balanced well
03:55.33Eguygood ol copyright laws
03:55.35dangerskewMAG is awesome, until the framerate goes down to about 10fps
03:55.39TemplarianGood to hear my friend won't even respond to IM he's kind of addicted I think atm.
03:55.49Eguyno halo reach for you internetz
03:56.09acydlorddangerskew, i havent had any problems with the framrate on mag in like the last 3 updates
03:56.18EguyI might get crackdown 2
03:56.18dangerskewOh, i havent tried since the closed beta
03:56.22EguyI liked the first one
03:56.46EguyI only play my PS3 for GT5 Prologue and wipeout HD
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03:57.10acydlorddangerskew, they did a lot better with updates after the PAX fiasco
03:57.16dangerskewapplause? was it actually impressive?
03:57.25Eguyengadget said it was
03:57.36dangerskewacydlord: guess I'll have to re-download it
03:57.41Eguythe 12 year olds ruin halo
03:57.43Eguyonline
03:57.58dangerskewI wish I wasn't banned from live...
03:58.09EguyWhat did you get banned for?
03:58.10TemplarianI want a Autotune for the 360.
03:58.12Eguymodding?
03:58.22acydlorddangerskew, the MAG beta is only open for like 3 more days
03:58.24dangerskew@eguy: yeah
03:58.25TemplarianSo many people modded their consoles and got caught.
03:58.31Eguyyup
03:58.39dangerskewacydlord: darn
03:58.46Eguywhat did you mod?
03:59.03dangerskewFlashed the dvd drive to play backups
03:59.04TemplarianProbably the chip so it can load games off hard drive
03:59.13Eguyhahaha
03:59.17acydlorddangerskew, it gomes out on the 26th
03:59.32dangerskewyeah, can't really say im surprised that i was banned. i lasted over a year lol
03:59.46EguyI'm a live beta tester so I am not going to mod anytime soon
03:59.53dangerskewacydlord: I don't have $60 to spend on a multiplayer-only game right now lol
03:59.55gkatsevdangerskew: banned in the MW2 wave?
04:00.11Eguyharry pothead? srsly?
04:00.23TemplarianI like that microsoft could always detect it and just let it slide for so long
04:00.26dangerskewgkatsev: Nah, I got banned before MW2
04:00.38acydlorddangerskew, i know how that is i probably cant afford it till feb or so
04:01.21EguyThis is like a sales session
04:01.40TemplarianCool game room
04:01.42dangerskewMicrosoft keynotes always completely ignore the existence of products from Apple and Google.
04:01.46acydlordyeah, microsoft doesnt get what CES is for
04:01.59Templariandangerskew: most keynotes do that.
04:02.00dangerskewgah, I want that game room on my zunehd
04:02.05Eguydangerskew: nothing wrong with that
04:02.13rwhitbyhey, microsoft has SDL too!
04:02.16TemplarianAvatars are coming to the Zune soon though.
04:02.24EguyLOL
04:02.25Eguyagain
04:02.30dangerskew@eguy: I know, its just funny how they pretend how their stuff is totally new and groundbreaking
04:02.48dangerskewoh noes, can't see retro games
04:02.54Eguygotta love copyright laws
04:03.04acydlordsounds like the namco classics we have in playstaion home
04:03.15EguyI like playstation home
04:03.23Eguyair race is pretty cool
04:03.36acydlordi've been playing sodium a bunch lately
04:03.40TemplarianNever seen playstation home in RL...
04:03.50dangerskewI need to check out Home some more, seemed pointless when it launched but I've heard its gotten more.
04:03.51acydlordi miss XI, that was the most fun i've here had in PS Home
04:03.52EguyI have the ninja suit
04:04.05acydlordditto
04:04.09rwhitbyit's the 'ZED' coordinate
04:04.09dangerskewNOW its time for natal...
04:04.15acydlordand psht.us always has codes for free stuff
04:04.31Eguythanks acydlord
04:04.40TemplarianYes, natal is going to rule.
04:04.46Eguyintroducing natal!
04:04.53Templarianhehe
04:04.55acydlordrwhitby, us yanks like to make it confusing by fronouncing it zee
04:04.56dangerskew+Templarian: If it doesn't lag.
04:05.05Eguybecause we never talked about this at E3
04:05.21Templariandangerskew: my friends used it, it is very smooth.
04:05.30Templarian(the tracking that is)
04:05.32dangerskewAwesome
04:05.34EguyNobody will buy a wii anymore
04:05.43Eguythe wii has nothing
04:05.50Templariandangerskew: You know the E3 video he's that 16 year old kid that looks like he's 14.
04:06.02dangerskewlol nice
04:06.26acydlordthe wii has all the fitness stuff
04:06.36acydlordthe wii is like a pilates addon
04:06.37Eguycan't wait for someone to punch their tv using natal
04:06.48Eguyand kick their tv over
04:06.55TemplarianYea, but the wii isn't a home entertaiment system and it requires a controller in hand.
04:06.56dangerskewYeah, I wanna see someone punch one of those super thin LG LED TV's
04:07.08acydlordmajor downside of Natal, no force feedback
04:07.18Eguyunless you trip and fall
04:07.20TemplarianWii remote through 6.9mm display
04:07.22acydlordyeah
04:07.23dangerskewI'm really hoping MS will add 3D to 360, 3D plus Natal should rule
04:07.53Eguyintroducing natal....only $599
04:07.58Eguycoming fall 2010
04:08.18TemplarianI'm 100% sure the next xbox will be setup for 100% 3d gaming.
04:08.22dangerskewI actually think its winter if engadget is to be believed
04:08.41dangerskewPS3 is getting updated with 3D for at least blu-rays
04:08.41Eguyyeah xbox 720 will be 3d probably
04:08.56Eguyor what ever they call it
04:09.16TemplarianIt requires HDMI 1.4 spec to work.
04:09.28Eguynobody even knows what natal looks like
04:09.29rwhitbywhat does "this holiday" mean?
04:09.33TemplarianBut yea new PS3's (was expecting the slim to have it)
04:09.38acydlorddangerskew, there was already confirmation of 3d gaming also, but you need a 240hz tv
04:09.43Eguylater november/december
04:09.53TemplarianNice way of saying 1 year.
04:09.59rwhitbyso 2011 then
04:10.09Eguynah they will get it by december
04:10.18Eguyprobably first or second week
04:10.26dangerskewYou don't need hdmi 1.4 for 3D.  I use my PC for 3D over HDMI 1.3 right now.  My TV is a 120hz dlp
04:10.43Eguyno tv has HDMI 1.4 yet
04:11.17dangerskewPSA: Nook is a terrible, laggy, piece of crap.
04:11.22EguyDLP is overrated IMO
04:11.27TemplarianNo for Dual 1080P for 3d Blu-ray I believe you need
04:11.41Eguywhat a terrible keynote
04:12.02TemplarianAgreed.
04:12.04EguyI'd even rather watch a steve jobs keynote
04:12.08Eguyand that is saying a lot
04:12.19acydlord"here is all the stuff we talked about last year at CES and E3"
04:12.29TemplarianThey were all equally boring.
04:12.39dangerskewI dunno, I remember reading something that while HDMI 1.4 has the 3D spec in it, 1.3 should still work for existing 3D-capable tv's. And my DLP was $1,900 for 73 inches and it looks better than most lcds
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04:12.46dangerskewBut yeah, crappy keynote.
04:13.26TemplarianHopefully we get to see this courier soon or someone is letting us down.
04:13.30Eguysamsung's tvs are amazing
04:13.35Eguyeven the crappy ones are good
04:13.48Templarianxbox for u-verse tv is kind of nice.
04:13.57Eguytoo bad u-verse sucks
04:14.32TemplarianOf course rather just wire up a HTPC any day than use it.
04:15.25dangerskewSoo, what are you guys expecting from Palm other than the obvious?
04:15.37Eguynot much
04:16.52acydlordprobably announcing the pre+/pixi+ and sdl crap
04:17.12dangerskewI'm pretty confident someone from Epic is gonna show up with Unreal Engine 3 on WebOS
04:18.26dangerskewCause if it were going to be any other mobile platform, it would have been announced already.
04:20.41TemplarianNeed for Speed will be showed off.
04:20.48Eguypalm is good at keeping secrets
04:21.01Eguyand they are also good at screwing customers
04:21.20dangerskewScrewing customers?
04:21.20Eguyhopefully they will not screw us this time
04:21.29Eguyyeah
04:21.35Eguy700p, 755p
04:21.37Eguy800w
04:21.40Eguy700w
04:21.53dangerskewoh, thought you were talking about the pre
04:22.02Eguythe pre isn't that great
04:22.10Eguybut it is getting better
04:22.14Eguylittle by little
04:22.31dangerskewYeah, I'm just sticking with it for the potential and because I'm not a huge fan of android
04:22.47Eguyif webos 1.3.5 was the initial shipping release, palm would be MUCH better off
04:23.04dangerskewHm, sprint is about to start a CES event
04:23.11dangerskewhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/live-from-sprints-4g-experience-event-at-ces-2010/
04:23.36Eguy4G baby
04:23.38dangerskewWiMax phone?
04:24.28dangerskewlol, they are gonna announce the Palm Pre Plus Plus with 4G and an enormous battery
04:24.34Eguy3200mah
04:25.00Eguyand a 4.3" 800x480 screen
04:25.26dangerskew*drools
04:25.46dangerskewwith snapdragon
04:25.49EguyShould be interesting HP vs Apple
04:26.01EguyiSlate will rule all though
04:26.08Eguybecause it will be the first tablet pc ever
04:26.10dangerskewHP won't even put a dent in Apple's sales
04:26.21Eguyfirst computer ever that you can touch
04:26.30Eguyfirst computer with a touch screen
04:26.43Eguysteve jobs invented the slate computer!
04:26.45dangerskewBecause millions of apple fanboys will begin wondering how they even lived without the iSlate and rush to fork over the $999 it will cost
04:27.14Eguy~dan hesse
04:27.21Eguyodd
04:27.31EguyI would think someone would have programmed douche
04:28.17TemplarianUnless they make the islate run full OS X I don't see it doing well.
04:28.26Eguyit will
04:28.30Eguysnow leopard
04:28.38dangerskewunless they completely overhaul the mobile OSX SDK
04:28.45Eguyand delete the hard drive data
04:28.58Eguyif you use the guest account
04:29.18TemplarianEven the Mobile OS X will fail, it just doesn't seem like it would scale.
04:29.36EguyDan is boasting 4G
04:29.52dangerskewno, its gonna be the Kindle DX of iphone/ipod touch
04:29.54Eguyeveryone should call sprint right now and ask for 4G
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04:30.16acydlordwonder how many hundreds of gpl and patent violations the iSlate will have
04:30.31Eguythousands
04:30.32Eguy*
04:30.37TemplarianProbably many of thousands.
04:30.53dangerskewIt seems like I've already heard about this device he's introducing
04:30.57TemplarianCourier with gesture support would be nice come to think of it.
04:30.58acydlordi like how nokia turned apple's suit against them
04:31.05EguyThere we go: he just officially introduced the Overdrive, which as best as we can tell is pretty much the awesomest thing ever: 3G / 4G routing on the go over WiFi.
04:31.21EguySprint rules all
04:31.32dangerskewIt sounds nice, but I'm not gonna pay anything extra a month to have it
04:31.39TemplarianGood way to make a company that owns countless patents mad, sue them.
04:31.58Eguyopen photoshop and click about
04:32.04Eguypatent heaven
04:32.51acydlordTemplarian, yeah I hope the ITC decides in favor of Nokia, especially on the GSM patent and bars the iPhone
04:33.15Eguyeven Nokia is better than Apple
04:33.49Eguythe best buy big wig is ugly
04:34.01dangerskewlol yeah he is
04:34.59Eguywell, I am going to go make some dinner
04:35.19dangerskewwhoa, that thing is coming out in 4 days!
04:35.45dangerskewballmer is on stage now?
04:36.03Eguyhe was beamed there
04:36.08dangerskewsrsly
04:36.16Eguyhe looks sweathy
04:36.21Eguypills must be wearing off
04:36.27Eguysweaty*
04:36.56dangerskewthere's already a banner ad for the overdrive on engadget
04:37.54dangerskewIf there's no wimax phone announcement i'm gonna be disapointed
04:40.22acydlordmaybe they are being cautious with wimax phones after the N810 wimax edition fail
04:42.52Eguycan I just say, that device is SEXY
04:44.36dangerskewweirdest event
04:44.53Eguywhy is mario bertoli or however you spell his name on
04:45.19dangerskewno clue.  sprint really needs to rethink their entire marketing department
04:45.38gkatsevas does palm.
04:45.42Eguy^ amen
04:45.47Eguywell actually
04:45.53Eguypalm has no marketing department
04:45.56gkatsevlol
04:46.08gkatsevwell, they are marketing the wrong features of the phone
04:46.08dangerskewPalm did the Pixi TV ads i thought. Those were pretty good
04:46.19Eguyyeah the pixi ones were ok
04:46.25Eguythe pre ones were just
04:46.27Eguyshit
04:46.28TemplarianTheir marketing involves them writing on retweeting on twitter and writing stuff on facebook.
04:46.48Eguyblog.palm.com = palm's marketing
04:47.00gkatsevlol
04:47.13Templarian(btw if you have MS on twitter, lol they tweeted a lot)
04:47.25Eguywoah, engadget is deleting comments like mad
04:47.27gkatsevsprint is tweeting about whats happening as well
04:47.38Eguyscrew twitter to hell
04:47.57dangerskewWhat comments are they deleting? Anti-sprint ones?
04:48.07Eguypersonal attacks
04:48.14TemplarianAgainst who?
04:48.19gkatsevTemplarian: the correct term is "if you are following MS on twitter"
04:48.19Eguyoh wait
04:48.21Eguynevermind
04:48.31Eguyit just got downranked
04:48.45Templariangkatsev: thanks :)
04:48.56Eguyno 4G phone I bet
04:49.06TemplarianYea stuff gets upranked and downranked in 2 seconds due to the high view rate atm.
04:49.13gkatsevpalm pre++ 4G
04:49.30Eguy"4G Everywhere! The Pre had a 4G radio all along!  We're all going to get laid!" is pretty good though
04:49.40EguyI gave him a +1
04:49.45dangerskewhaha awesome
04:50.01gkatsevwhat?
04:50.05TemplarianWhy is "Johnny Depp" always a trending topic?
04:50.11Eguyand someone replied you arent going to get laid lol
04:50.22Eguywhich I lol'd at
04:50.25gkatsevTemplarian: imaginarium of dr parnsassus and alice in wonderland
04:50.25dangerskewcause people like to obsess over celebrities
04:50.37EguyJohnny Depp isn't even a good actor
04:50.46gkatsevhe's not bad
04:50.48TemplarianOh, shuld probably see that, and Johnny Depp is a fine actor.
04:50.53Eguyhe's not good either
04:50.54gkatsevthere are more worse actors than better ones
04:51.10Eguyyeah
04:51.15Eguykeanau reeves
04:51.24gkatsevthough, imaginarium is heath ledger's movie, too bad they couldnt finish it with him
04:51.27gkatsevlol
04:51.41gkatsevkeanu reaves is a good actor, as long as the role requires him to play himself
04:51.41EguyI messed up his name
04:51.51Eguyyeah
04:51.53Eguyneo
04:51.53gkatsevlike in a scanner darkly
04:52.03Eguybrb dinner
04:52.10gkatsevwhich is a great movie btw, with robert downie jr
04:52.15dangerskewA scanner darkly is such a trippy movie
04:52.17gkatsevbased on philip k dick's novel
04:53.53dangerskewThe pre is still the cheapest smartphone. http://lifehacker.com/5441380/current-crop-of-smartphones-a-cost-and-feature-comparison?skyline=true&s=x
04:54.13gkatsevyes, cheapest over the 2 years
04:54.33gkatsevthough, now with tmobiles new plans, they are on par with sprint price wise
04:55.03dangerskeweven for data plans?
04:55.14gkatsevthough, you need an unsubsidized phone to have that
04:55.17gkatsevdangerskew: yes
04:55.42dangerskewlol, i ditched t-mobile for sprint because sprint had way cheaper data
04:55.56gkatsevso, i guess sprint is still cheapest
04:56.01dangerskewbut that was back in august
04:56.11gkatsevthough, now only by like $100-$300
04:57.56dangerskewso uh, why did ballmer mention the nook in the MS keynote? it runs android....
04:58.57gkatsevdid he? what was he saying about it?
05:00.02dangerskewhe just mentioned it in a sentence along with some other tablet/ereader devices
05:00.15dangerskewand they had a picture of it up on the projector for a second
05:00.27gkatsevlol, ok
05:00.48Templarian(may have an investment in it)
05:01.36TemplarianHmm... always wonder what MS invests in, hell they could completely fund other companies just for their own competition.
05:01.37Eguyback
05:01.50Eguyt-mobile has the worst service and data speeds though
05:02.02TemplarianDuh.
05:02.03EguyI got rid of them 4 years ago for sprint
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05:02.22Eguyactually I think AT&T has worse signal than t-mo
05:02.38Eguyat least t-mo doesn't drop every call
05:02.47TemplarianDells new 27" looks sexy
05:02.57dangerskewin atlanta, just about all 4 carriers are equal signal-wise
05:03.01EguyI missed that one
05:03.27gkatsevEguy: not for long they dont.
05:03.29Eguywhy the eff is mario cooking at the sprint keynote wtf?
05:03.34Templarian2,560 x 1,440 pretty nice res also for the 27"
05:03.44Eguyholy damn
05:04.03gkatsevmario batali?
05:04.15dangerskewI have a 30 inch dell monitor thats 2560x1600, games are amazing on it and RAW images look really really nice too
05:04.52TemplarianThe 30" is an IPS would hope so.
05:05.05Eguyyeah gkatsev
05:05.20gkatsevgoogle had alton brown recently at one of their events
05:05.29Eguydangerskew: do you make bank?
05:05.57EguyTemplarian: that 27" is really nice
05:06.04dangerskew@eguy: nope. its actually my dad's but i use it a bunch
05:06.17Eguydoes he make bank? :P
05:06.21dangerskewyeah
05:06.51Eguyholy crap the overdrive is tiny
05:07.00dangerskewyep
05:07.27Eguyengadget's site is getting flooded
05:08.04Eguyhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/myford-dash-and-sync-app-ecosystem-make-us-want-a-blue-oval/ is sweet I must say....shame it is on a ford
05:08.16dangerskewlol I was just about to link that
05:08.44EguyTemplarian: http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/alpine-intros-pandora-controlling-ida-x305s-head-unit-ina-w900/
05:08.49Eguythat is what you need in your car
05:09.20TemplarianYea, too bad my car doesn't lock so it would get stolen.
05:09.50Eguywhat?? lol
05:09.56dangerskewI'm fine with pandora on my pre hooked up to my car
05:09.57Eguydoor locks are broken?
05:10.15TemplarianYea, 3/4 are.
05:10.17Eguyyeah if I need, I have pandora with A2DP to my car
05:10.35EguyTemplarian: electrics or mechanical?
05:10.47TemplarianMechanical.
05:10.51TemplarianIt's an 88
05:10.52Eguydangerskew: do you drive a german luxury car?
05:11.06Eguyyeah, I figured.
05:11.09dangerskew@eguy: haha I wish. crappy 1994 corolla
05:11.09EguyThat sucks
05:11.20Templarian(I win)
05:11.25Eguyyeah
05:11.31Eguywhat's wrong with a 94 carolla
05:11.40Eguycorolla*
05:11.41TemplarianI kind of wish all TV was 3D.
05:11.54EguyEven the biggest loser Templarian?
05:12.05TemplarianEspecially the biggest loser.
05:12.16Eguythat would be mucho scary
05:12.26dangerskewnothing's wrong with it other than the speakers which i can't stand at all
05:12.30Eguyespecially with the guy this season who is 530lbs
05:12.34dangerskewoh god, mad mental image
05:12.37dangerskew*bad
05:12.54Eguythere are also twin brothers who both weigh 480 lbs
05:13.29dangerskewdoes anyone know what kind of 3d glasses all these in-home solutions are using? active shutter glasses im assuming?
05:13.29Eguyno 4g phone
05:13.36Eguysprint just finished
05:13.41Eguyonly the overdrive
05:14.12dangerskewmabye they're saving the 4g phone for palm's event lol
05:14.17Eguynah
05:14.22Eguypalm doesn't have the money
05:14.32Eguyiphone 4gsxpsfjhpshwen for sprint only!
05:14.37EguyOnly $1995
05:14.59dangerskewpeople would eat it up. apple fanboys would suddenly hate AT&T after defending them for years.
05:15.10Eguyyup
05:16.23gkatsevdangerskew: i dont think there is anyone who likes ATT. they all hate, but they just love apple so much that is way overshadows their hate of att
05:16.34TemplarianAT&T would plummet so hard if that happened.
05:16.53TemplarianPeople need to stop with the android netbooks.
05:17.11gkatsevif the iphone comes out for sprint, verizon, and tmobile, or even just verizon, att would lose like 70% of their iphone userbase
05:17.39dangerskewmost likely, once all the iphone contracts ended
05:17.56gkatsevsome will switch even before that
05:17.57EguyI would be the happiest man alive if AT&T fell hard
05:18.11Eguyand went bankrupt
05:18.33gkatsevno, we dont want it to die. we need competition, we barely have it as it is
05:18.44TemplarianImagine no GSM.
05:18.57TemplarianThat would be funny
05:19.08Eguythat would be awesome
05:19.23Eguybut everywhere else in the world they use it
05:19.26Eguywe only use cdma
05:19.40irdhooray
05:19.42EguyGSM technically is better
05:19.48irdI guess I'm going to college this year.
05:19.49Eguybut not developed in the US
05:19.51gkatsevjapan uses a derivative of cdma, which, now is actually closer to gsm
05:20.12Eguythe US went meh. to GSM
05:20.30gkatsevEguy: no, cdma is better. but requires two chips to run phone and data at the same time
05:20.45Templarianird: why is that?
05:20.47Eguythus gsm is better
05:20.49Eguy:P
05:21.00irdTemplarian: because I want to be more than what I am.
05:21.07TemplarianGSM is better, at&t just makes it look bad.
05:21.09dangerskewdoesn't cdma eat more battery as well?
05:21.33Templarianird: smoking every night working at taco bell isn't enough.
05:21.37Eguyyeah gkatsev: go use Vodafone in europe
05:21.42EguyLOL Templarian
05:21.43gkatsevlol
05:21.45irdI don't work at taco bell.
05:21.50Eguythat was awesome
05:22.00TemplarianI know I had to fill in the details you didn't tell us.
05:22.29TemplarianI like how it always returns to the 4 of us. So sad.
05:22.50gkatsevlol
05:23.01ird...
05:23.10gkatsevird drove them all away
05:23.22irdapparently.
05:23.28irdI'm a buzz kill.
05:23.43irdI was just going to say there were a lot more people talking here than usual too.
05:23.44gkatsevbuzz killington
05:24.21irdTemplarian: how do you like your steaks?
05:24.38TemplarianWell done.
05:24.42irdlike your mom
05:25.00irdruns
05:25.02Eguylol
05:25.13Templariansaw that coming... *gets out bat and wrapps the barbwire*
05:25.55Templarianthinks this could be followed up sexually or not, either way involving ird
05:26.04irdhmm..
05:26.16irdyou gonna give me the flaming amazon?
05:26.50gkatsevno webos public beta for flash?
05:27.02Templarianis reminded he still has to make a list of all his drinks less than 3 months... Apple Tini.
05:27.05*** join/#webos-watercooler dangerskew123 (n=wIRCer@c-76-97-183-39.hsd1.ga.comcast.net)
05:27.06EguyI was going to say, we are running the public beta of webos
05:27.20Eguybut then I saw you wrote flash
05:27.21irdpublic beta?
05:27.25gkatsevlol
05:27.35irdEguy: where?
05:27.46Eguywebos 1.0.2-1.3.5 has been public beta
05:27.49Eguy;)
05:27.59dangerskew123pretty much...
05:27.59gkatsevi thought we were going to see the flash public beta before the end of last year
05:28.20gkatsevEguy: 1.0.2-1.3.5.1
05:28.22gkatsev:)
05:28.26Eguyty
05:28.35dangerskew123adobe let us down, but we should see it tomorrow
05:28.39Eguyhow could I ever forget 1.3.5.1
05:28.47gkatsevyeah, whats wrong with you?
05:28.51Eguyflash is going to lag webos SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad
05:29.02Eguywe will NEED the gpu with flash coming
05:29.25Eguythe freaking ford car has wifi in it
05:29.36dangerskew123and I hope it will just show flash placeholders and not actually render the flash unless you tap it
05:29.52EguyI'm pretty sure that is how it will be
05:30.23dangerskew123cause if it does flash like the nexus one, it'll be a lagfest
05:30.38gkatsevdangerskew123: yeah, thats how it should be. it wont play any flash unless you tap it
05:30.50gkatsevno annoying flash banners!
05:30.50TemplarianWe also need a patch to stop ads.
05:31.06gkatsevadsweepy should be ported over.
05:31.11dangerskew123lol an adblock patch would be sweet
05:31.22gkatsevadsweepy would be easier to port than adblock
05:31.27EguyI use opendns
05:31.32Eguyblocks a lot of ads for me
05:31.37gkatsevthats another way
05:31.53Eguyhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3352/3407964452_1950a0f151.jpg
05:32.21dangerskew123haha, so true
05:32.27gkatsevlol
05:32.32TemplarianThat's what shows up when you type "Google is" into google.
05:32.39Eguyyup
05:33.01dangerskew123if google is skynet, what is bing?
05:33.02EguyI like how nothing comes up when you type islam is
05:33.08Eguybing is developers
05:33.16dangerskew123lol
05:33.17acydlordBING BING BING
05:33.37TemplarianI've ruled MS out as being skynet.
05:33.51gkatsevlol
05:33.58gkatsevthere is an actual company called skynet
05:34.02TemplarianI bet skynet finds the whole "android" "droid" thing a big joke.
05:34.33Eguylarry page is skynet
05:34.46acydlordgoogle is too evil to be skynet
05:35.00acydlordthey're more like the AI in the matrix
05:35.07Eguyagents?
05:35.16Eguysteve ballmer is smith
05:35.32Eguyhe can clone himself and they all say developers
05:35.42dangerskew123lmao
05:35.43acydlordnot the agents but the whole system, google uses us to power themselves
05:36.15Eguynew man vs. wild episode
05:36.17Eguyawesome
05:37.19dangerskew123sigh, another day, another bunch of apps I would never even consider buying
05:37.40Eguyyup
05:37.50Eguymost apps are not worth buying at this point
05:37.58EguyI bought 3 I think
05:38.15dangerskew123just about everything I use on my phone is from webos-internals
05:38.21Eguyfeeds, stopwatch/timer, and something else I forgot
05:38.46EguyI should buy that $40 translator
05:38.53dangerskew123I used the beta for feeds, been thinking of buying it
05:38.59Eguyit is worth it
05:39.14EguyI use it every day
05:39.25dangerskew123it was really helpful for my gadget/gaming blog addiction
05:39.33Eguyoh I bought timepiece
05:39.39Eguybest clock for touchstone
05:40.02dangerskew123yeah I'll probably buy that once I get a touchstone
05:40.17EguyI got 3 of them for really cheap way back
05:41.04dangerskew123holy shit, jesus quiz is under popular apps???
05:41.06Eguythat MSI dual screen thing really is awesome
05:41.42dangerskew123I'd consider one if it wasn't powered by atom
05:42.45EguyMy atom netbook isn't THAT bad
05:42.51TemplarianYea, still hoping that the courier is Windows 7 and has something not atom.
05:43.00Eguycore i3
05:43.01TemplarianEguy: can it run photoshop okay?
05:43.05Eguyhell no
05:43.09irdlol
05:43.20Eguyactually I don't know, never tried
05:43.21TemplarianIf I get some type of tablet i want the option to use photoshop.
05:43.43Eguyyeah I use sketchbook pro on my tablet
05:43.47Eguyand photoshop
05:43.57dangerskew123wouldn't a slate suck for PS though since they use capacitive, non-pressure sensitive screens?
05:43.59Eguybut my shitty digitizer doesn't support pressure sensitivity
05:44.12Eguyand the drivers are horrible
05:44.36gkatsevthe lenovo hybrid is pretty cool as well. the screen is detachable and runs a linux OS on snapdragon and when you pop it back in, it uses some intel CPU runing win7 (by default) its really thing, light and long battery life as well
05:45.12Eguywhere was that?
05:45.15EguyI missed it
05:45.28gkatsevi saw it via the tekzilla feed
05:45.35EguyLenovo makes great hardware
05:45.35gkatsevbut i think it was mentiones on engadget
05:45.43EguyI am very impressed with the new tower
05:45.49EguyIt was only $420
05:45.50dangerskew123that thing is really impressive and I might actually buy it for notetaking and other lights tasks if the software turns out alright
05:45.54gkatsevi still think the IBM thinkpads were better than the current lenovo thinkpads
05:46.00Eguyyes
05:46.03Eguybut uglier
05:46.11gkatsevhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/lenovo-ideapad-u1-hybrid-laptop-by-day-unhinged-tablet-by-nigh/
05:46.28Eguywas just searching for it, thanks
05:46.47EguyIt's only $999...hot damn
05:46.51TemplarianThat was pretty well done.
05:47.15dangerskew123does it have a release date yet?
05:47.24EguyJune
05:47.39EguyIt has a Core 2 Duo ULV which I have in my tablet
05:47.43Eguyruns photoshop fine
05:47.50Eguya bit slow though
05:48.12dangerskew123might have to get that as a graduation gift to myself
05:48.18Eguylol
05:48.27Eguyfrom what?
05:48.38gkatsevEguy: *where
05:48.45TemplarianCore 2 Duo's have been out forever why can't they just put one and a mid range video card and release it.
05:48.58dangerskew123high school
05:49.02Eguygkatsev: what and where*
05:49.12gkatsevdangerskew123: you're young
05:49.19Eguyindeed
05:49.19dangerskew123yeah..
05:49.21gkatsevlol
05:49.28Eguygkatsev: we're old
05:49.30gkatsevDecimate is youngest though
05:49.34gkatsevEguy: you're older
05:49.37Eguythanks
05:49.43TemplarianGraduation gifts are nice, the laptop I'm using was a grad gift, 3 years and ticking away.
05:49.46gkatsevs/older/oldest/
05:49.51gkatsevim barely 21
05:50.02Eguycan i haz youth fountain
05:50.07gkatsevno
05:50.07TemplarianI'm 20 almost 21 so I'm good.
05:50.17TemplarianAnd no.
05:50.18gkatsevTemplarian: whens your bday?
05:50.22EguyI'm 70, almost 71
05:50.27Eguyso I am almost dead
05:50.29Templarianhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/ Feb 26
05:50.40Templariantodays smbc is perfect for this convo.
05:50.53gkatsev3 weeks before me
05:51.33EguyI need to write some thank you notes
05:51.38Eguyis lazy
06:07.50TemplarianAfter eating about 30g of surgar (3 servings of cinimin toast crunch), I can really feel the surgar.
06:07.57Eguylol
06:08.03gkatsevlol
06:08.26TemplarianSamsung loves their transparent screens.
06:08.26Eguycheck out the new rubber http://i49.tinypic.com/w8qkn4.jpg
06:08.54Eguytwice the width of the tires it came with
06:09.05gkatsevwould be cool if you could control the screen's alpha
06:09.33TemplarianI would believe you could change it.
06:09.42gkatsevah, you can?
06:09.50TemplarianThey had a video before where the windows were completely solid and the desktop was the only clear part.
06:09.59gkatsevok, cool
06:10.03TemplarianIt looked perfect in the video.
06:10.14Eguythat is insane
06:10.26gkatsevmaking currently focused windows solid and the rest like 50% alpha would be awesome
06:10.54TemplarianYea, I want avatar table
06:11.06gkatsevlol, yes
06:11.12gkatsevTemplarian: do you want an avatar as well?
06:11.23Eguythis was the coolest laptop ever http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/07/toshibas-wifi-screen-tablet-pc-laptop/
06:11.58gkatsevdoes it actually exist?
06:12.02gkatsevor vaporware?
06:12.03Eguythat one did
06:12.09Eguyfor ces lol
06:12.16gkatsevso, yes, vaporware
06:12.18Eguythey never made it
06:12.27EguyI would buy that though
06:12.40Eguyimagine being on your couch with your screen and laptop in the other room
06:13.14Templariangkatsev: actually I do want one.
06:13.38gkatsevor, if the external monitor hookup is on the screen, you could hook it up to a TV or w/e and have the bottom with you, lol
06:13.46Eguyyup
06:13.50gkatsevTemplarian: so, you could procreate with other Na'vi?
06:13.55Eguylol
06:14.11EguyTemplarian wants to procreate with tegra chips
06:15.30Eguyit's just us 3 again
06:15.44Templariangkatsev: maybe see how it goes try and get me a flying mount, then a ground mount, then smurf mount. Eguy: tegra 2.
06:15.48gkatsevird got high and fell asleep or went to get food or something
06:15.52Eguylol
06:15.56Eguyper usual
06:16.16gkatsevTemplarian: lol, you like the giant war smurfs?
06:16.50TemplarianThey have their alure.
06:16.56gkatsevlol
06:16.58Eguyif nvidia announces tegra 2 Templarian will be busy tomorrow fapping all day
06:16.59TemplarianCarbon fiber bones seems like fun also.
06:17.14TemplarianThere is already a tegra 2.
06:17.18TemplarianAnd I did.
06:17.23EguyLOL
06:17.51TemplarianWas saving my energy for Windows Mobile 7 + Tegra 2 now.
06:18.04gkatsevugh, why? WM SUCKS!
06:18.34Eguyhttp://x86forum.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/tegra_3d_large.jpg
06:18.38TemplarianWM is such a powerful platform it just needs it's SDK extended.
06:18.50EguyI just want a HD2
06:18.52Templarianomg, *cleans up*
06:18.53gkatsevit just needs to stop sucking
06:18.55EguySense is so drool
06:21.28TemplarianNothing beats WM developing, if they extend the SDK which I believe is half of what WM7 does.
06:21.51gkatsevthey should just move to the zune UI for WM.
06:22.08gkatsevthey really should make a zune phone
06:22.23TemplarianYea... they really should.
06:22.30Eguywm7 is going to have the zune UI
06:22.35gkatsevim still probably not gonna use it
06:22.37gkatsevlol
06:22.57TemplarianThat's my hope eguy. Large 800x480 screen.
06:23.07EguyI thought engadget confirmed it
06:23.21TemplarianI remember developing for 320x240 WM5 and even that was pretty awesome.
06:23.23Eguyhave you seen how big the HD2 is in the hands? with the 4.3"
06:23.42Eguyit is like a book
06:23.46TemplarianEguy: The min resolution for WM7 is 800x480
06:24.22Eguyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBMOuK8Pyis
06:25.55Eguyslow boot up
06:30.39Eguydamn that is so nice
06:30.43EguyI can't watch anymore
06:30.53EguySense is the best interface ever
06:31.33TemplarianThat is one sexy device
06:31.51Eguyit seriously is the best phone ever made
06:31.55TemplarianIf I could have a phone it would be that one running WM7 with a Tegra.
06:32.00Templarian2
06:32.13Eguythe snapdragon is more than adequate
06:32.24Eguythe animated weather is so amazing
06:32.31Eguyand clock
06:32.42TemplarianYea, the design detail shows so much.
06:32.55Eguyand that screen is just amazing
06:34.37TemplarianIs that on sprint?
06:34.55Eguynope
06:35.08Eguytmobile is getting it though
06:35.25TemplarianThat's too bad.
06:35.33EguyVerizon is getting the bravo which is that with a 3.7" screen
06:35.38TemplarianI'm nowhere near an upgrade though so meh
06:35.50Eguyand android
06:35.59Eguyinstead of Wm 6.5
06:36.02TemplarianI still want WM even if it's 6.5
06:36.09EguyI think Sense on WM is better than android though
06:36.33TemplarianThat HD2 screen murders the iphones.
06:36.46Eguyyou can't even bring it up in the same sentence
06:36.55Eguyit is the best screen ever put on a phone
06:40.36Eguybear grylles is fucking crazy
06:41.58TemplarianIsn't bear the one that lives in a motel inbetween takes.
06:42.13Eguyyeah
06:42.15Eguyhe did it once
06:42.38Eguyhe just drank his own pee
06:42.47gkatsevles from surviver man is better
06:42.53Eguypfft
06:43.06gkatsevs/e/o/
06:43.09Eguyles isn't SAS
06:43.13gkatsevlol, oops
06:43.14Eguylol
06:43.15gkatsevSAS?
06:43.26EguySpecial Air Service
06:43.31gkatsevok
06:43.38Eguythey are englands seals
06:43.40Eguyjust better
06:43.59gkatsevbut he dooesnt have a crew, just a bunch of cameras and he actually spends the time in the places
06:44.49Eguybleh
06:44.54Eguybear still does the stuff
06:45.00Eguyeven if he doesn't sleep there
06:45.14gkatsevright, les sleeps there as well
06:45.36gkatsevhe also doesnt have the crew to bail him out if something happens
06:45.44Eguythat transparent samsung laptop is awesome
06:45.50EguyI bet you he has a phone with him
06:45.56Eguya droid
06:46.09gkatsevlol, no reception in the middle of the savanah
06:46.22gkatsevanyway, im going to sleep
06:46.24gkatsevnight
06:46.31Eguy~night grndslm
06:46.32infobothave a good night, grndslm
06:46.34Eguyoops
06:46.40gkatsevtab fail
06:46.44Eguy~night gkatsev
06:46.45infobothave a good night, gkatsev
06:46.50Eguy~smack eguy
06:46.51infobotACTION smacks eguy upside the head.
06:47.00EguyI was enter happy
06:47.27Templarianhttp://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8027/mockupn.png 15min mockup. I think I'm going to format every one of my sites the exact same and just switch out the content.
06:47.57Eguylooks very applish
06:49.00TemplarianHmm... was trying to keep it really minimal so that I could code it up in 2 seconds.
06:49.34Eguyhttp://i.imgur.com/cn2EF.jpg
06:49.38Eguyfail at math
06:51.17Templarianlol
06:51.23Eguyhttp://imgur.com/v8j90
06:51.24EguyLOL
06:51.43TemplarianWhen I was little this was my logo I drew up. http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/841/dragonrd.jpg hehe.
06:52.06Eguylol
06:53.29Templarianhttp://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4700/dragonp.png red was the orginal.
06:53.56TemplarianI did it when I barely knew what a vector was took forever.
06:54.09Eguylol
06:54.27EguyI'm getting tired
06:54.49TemplarianIt's 2, I have work in 7 hours.
06:55.20Eguyengadget bloggers are not sleeping
06:55.29TemplarianThat electronics store has it's free day at exactly 12 noon tomorrow.
06:56.03Templarian100,000 dollars in groups of up to 100 dollars my bro has his cart made up all he has to do is click order a thousand times as the sever fails.
06:56.17Eguylololol
06:56.44Eguyyour brother is evil
06:56.47Eguyhe has a cat
06:56.56Eguyand an evil mind
06:57.05TemplarianAnd it's sleeping passed out next to him, I had it playing catch forever earlier.
06:57.16Eguylol
06:57.58TemplarianIt's funny when kitties get overtired, it lifts its head and just lets it fall back down whenever it hears something.
06:59.15Eguyit's funny when they are not around as well
06:59.30Eguybecause it is pleasant
07:00.02TemplarianAww... be nice. Who would have thought to make cute small versions of tigers.
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14:22.37irdgkatsev: I was asleep
14:22.45irdI work at 3 in the morning.
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15:45.07irdfuck
15:45.14irdI'm wrrecked and it's only 9am
15:45.27irdGuess that means it's time to quit.
15:48.13irdwaits for Templarian to chime in
15:54.09TemplarianThat seems the most logical conclusion.
15:54.43Templarian(sorry, at work replies may be slower and less witty)
15:54.52irdfduck
15:54.53irder
15:54.54irdficl
15:54.55irder
15:54.57irdfuck
15:54.59irdthere we go
15:55.08irdis it 11am pacific?
16:00.49sugardaveno
16:00.56sugardaveit's 8 am
16:03.50irdwhat?
16:03.55irdI mean
16:04.02irdwhat time zone..
16:04.06irdpst right?
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16:11.26sugardaveyeah, pst
16:11.30sugardave8:11 now
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17:05.02TemplarianHopefully the courier is made by dell, that could be nice.
17:06.38gkatsevHTC?
17:07.01Templarianlol at alienware htc.
17:07.08TemplarianI mean alienware netbook*
17:10.32dangerskew123that netbook actually looks pretty good
17:10.46Mouseyurl?
17:15.00TemplarianMousey: fail at keeping up with the news
17:15.08Mouseybaws
17:15.10sugardaveme too
17:15.18sugardaveI suck at that game
17:15.22Templarianhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/alienware-m11x-netbook-gets-official/
17:16.07gkatsevavatar now needs about $700 mil to overcome titnatic as #1 highest grossing movie
17:16.26TemplarianDo Blu-ray sales count?
17:16.37gkatsevTemplarian: for what?
17:16.56TemplarianToward the total gross?
17:17.13gkatsevno
17:17.22gkatsevonly movie sales
17:17.44gkatsevtitanic made 1.8 billion in theaters world wide over its whole run
17:17.46TemplarianDell is making their own slates
17:17.59gkatsevavatar has now made 1.15 billion in 20 days!
17:18.13gkatsevdefinitely fastest grossing movie yet
17:18.28TemplarianHave never seen titanic.
17:18.41gkatsevneither have i
17:19.26dangerskew123don't waste your time. titanic is overrated
17:19.45gkatsevas is avatar, really.
17:20.01TemplarianNah, it's not overrated
17:20.03gkatsevthats why there is no point in seeing avatar not in imax 3d
17:20.23gkatsevTemplarian: no, it is. the story just isnt good enough. and i mean, unobtanium? really?
17:20.27gkatsevreally?
17:20.39dangerskew123the visuals in avatar make it worth seeing. not to mention it will be the main reason for people to rush out and get 3dtv setups
17:21.20gkatsevyeah, the 3d makes it worth seeing.
17:21.41TemplarianCalled it earlier first 3D blu-ray.
17:21.53Templarian40gb movie, insane
17:21.56gkatsevon one of the blogs i read, the guy said that if pixar were writing the story, this movie wouldve been a historic movie not only because of viual effects
17:22.13dangerskew123we will see tvs at best buy looping 3d clips of avatar for years
17:24.43dangerskew123my god, someone on the precentral forums is asking for an iphone os emulator for pre...
17:25.00sugardaveriiiiiiight
17:25.07sugardavewe'll get right on that
17:25.55Templarianlol
17:26.32Mousey=(
17:26.37Mouseyi cant find it!
17:26.49Mouseyoh, engadget
17:26.50Mouseyof course
17:36.33Guest23501dangerskew123: have a link?
17:37.20dangerskew123to what? the forum post?
17:38.23TemplarianGuest23501: identify yourself or feel the wrath of Eguy (it's not actually bad more like sweet careese, but you won't be able to sleep and will have nightmares)
17:39.48gkatsevso, who is streaming the palm event?
17:39.52Templarianpalm
17:39.58Templarianeverythingpre.com
17:40.00gkatsevare they streaming it?
17:40.15Templarianhttp://www.everythingpre.com/live/
17:40.57Templarianstill have a solid hour and 20min
17:41.38gkatsevno, should be 20 mins
17:41.56dangerskew123it's at 2pm est
17:42.34dangerskew123is it a video stream? can't tell on my pre
17:42.36Templariangkatsev: yea, I'm in the est time zone you may have to do math, remember we are the important time zone.
17:42.40Templarianyes video
17:43.06dangerskew123darn, can't watch it then
17:43.10gkatsevyeah, sorry. i believe someone else that it was at 1EAST
17:43.56Templarianlol, since you can't watch it they annouce the update for flash has gone live.
17:44.12TemplarianNice circle logic
17:44.58dangerskew123well I also won't have signal where I am at the time of the event
17:46.09sugardavewww.worldclock.org
17:47.10Templarian(or just live in a good timezone like EST)
17:51.39sugardaveCST rules
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17:53.30FreeTimannouncing at CES today: the new Palm Poop!  So small, you can fit it ANYWHERE
17:53.33Templariansugardave: if it rules so much why does nothing ever say CST time.
17:54.09sugardaveall the shows around here do, after EST because we gotta prop that sorry-ass TZ up
17:54.31irdlol
17:54.35irdCST is king
17:56.13Guest23501wtf is up with this livestream it keeps cutting in and out and going backwards :P
17:56.26Guest23501anyone have anywhere else to watch CES?
18:01.20irdGuest23501: what are you watching?
18:01.29sugardaveGuest23501: link?
18:02.38Templarianlost that bet, first 3d blu-ray looks to be Cloudy with a chance of meat balls
18:03.05irdsugardave: http://cnettv.cnet.com/liveatces ?
18:03.06irdmaybe
18:03.52sugardaveird: thanks, will check
18:04.48sugardaveseems to be working....
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18:19.19sugardavenot sure if it's going to get the Palm keynote, but I'm sure I will get informed at some point
18:28.44Eguymornin
18:29.38gkatsevEguy: finally awake, i see
18:29.45gkatsevbut yeah, i guess i woke up at around noon as well
18:30.07Eguylol
18:30.11Eguyit is only 10:30
18:30.44Toaster23lol everyone is waiting for lady gaga
18:30.56Toaster23idk why shes not worth the wait.
18:31.06gkatsevEguy: for me its 1:30pm
18:31.24Eguylooks like I woke up jus tin time
18:31.24Toaster23yeah its 1:30pm here too
18:31.36Toaster23should start in 30 minutes
18:31.42gkatsevlady gaga is crap. well, really, she sings songs that are pop and she does it so it will sell. her songs are crap, though.
18:31.55Eguyprecentral is getting owned
18:31.59Toaster23Yeah idk why they are trying to video it
18:32.05Toaster23palm will be much more intresting imo
18:32.20Toaster23I bet she wont even show lol
18:32.30EguyLady Gaga is just like the Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus.... completely unnecessary
18:32.46TemplarianAgreed.
18:32.59Eguyand realty show celebs
18:33.22Toaster23realty shows are such trash IDK why or how anyone would watch them.
18:33.34EguyI'm watching comething on CNET don't know which event it is
18:33.38Eguysomething*
18:33.50Toaster23http://www.livestream.com/crunchgear << watching this one
18:34.18Eguythat is floor footage
18:34.33FreeTimanother 2 hours until Palm Poops, it looks like
18:34.51Toaster23I think the Cnet one is the palm event I could be wrong though.
18:34.55EguyIt says 10:45am which is 10 minutes
18:35.11Templarianhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/nvidia-announces-tegra-2-tablets-coming/
18:35.14gkatsevEguy: no, miley and jonas are worse
18:35.24Eguyyes Templarian, yes
18:35.28Eguygo to your bathroom now
18:36.02gkatsevremind me that if/when i meet Templarian in person not to shake his hand...
18:36.02EguyI don't know gkatsev
18:36.08Eguyit is a tough call
18:36.31Eguyand don't talk about tegra or he will pitch a tent
18:37.16Eguyevery device/laptop should have a Core i7 and GTX 295
18:38.44gkatsevhttp://www.makeuseof.com/tech-fun/google-nexus-one-the-fck-you-iphone-phone-nsfw/
18:39.13Templarianis at work :(
18:39.21Toaster23it apears the lady gaga thing is at 11 which I fear is going to run over the palm stuff :(
18:39.25gkatsevits auditory NSFW
18:39.33gkatsevjust hook up your headphones
18:39.38gkatsevits hillarious
18:39.54gkatsevthuogh, they used an iphone as a nexus one in the video
18:40.01TemplarianTBH the 2.4ghz processor could last me for a long while, 3 years old so why can't they put it in a tablet.
18:41.28TemplarianAlienware knows how to price a gaming rig now.
18:43.12EguyLOL gkatsev
18:43.48Eguyaudio neutralization
18:44.06Eguyurination interface LOL
18:44.54EguyAHAHHAHA that is hilarious
18:46.06gkatsevhttp://gizmodo.com/5442802/alienwares-optx-aw2310-23+inch-3d-widescreen-monitor-sounds-brilliant?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gizmodo%2Ffull+%28Gizmodo%29
18:48.32Eguyand it isn't $10000 like older alienware stuff
18:48.57gkatsevpalm dev is down a la apple
18:49.15Eguystore isn't down though
18:49.46gkatsevlol, cuz they arent updating the store, lol
18:50.00Eguythat's what YOU think
18:50.53gkatsevno, thats what they want me to think
18:50.55gkatsevi know better
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18:51.41egaudet_zombiestop telling me what to do!
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18:51.59gkatsevegaudet_zombie: you're a zombie, obey me!
18:52.15EguyI hope this isn't like the webinar before the pre came out
18:52.25Eguywebos and sprint are awesome bye!
18:52.55Toaster23ooh its started :D
18:54.16Eguyum yeah cnet one is not palm
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18:58.04EguyI wonder which event cnet has
19:01.00Toaster23idk its not palm though
19:01.08EguyIt is not
19:01.10Toaster23I cant find any video streams.
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19:01.14Eguyoh well, no live stream
19:01.26EguyDieter is doing a good job
19:01.27gkatsev_zhunterno video streams
19:02.18Toaster23okay
19:02.26Toaster23http://www.livestream.com/crunchgear << They MIGHT go visit palm later on
19:02.46gkatsev_zhunterbut palm might publish the video later on today like they did last CES
19:02.50Eguyyeah
19:03.09Eguysomeone posted an HD video last year
19:03.25gkatsev_zhunterpalm did
19:03.58Eguyfor pictures go to everythingpre.com/live
19:04.18gkatsev_zhunterlol, yes
19:04.43EguyAs of today, your webos devices won't lag anymore!
19:04.56EguyWe are unlocking the hidden nvidia tegra gpu!
19:06.11EguyJon has 3 touchstones?
19:06.17gkatsev_zhunterlol
19:06.27gkatsev_zhunterdesk, tv and toilet?
19:06.47EguyI have one on my nightstand and one at my desk at work
19:06.55gkatsev_zhunteri have atm
19:07.33Eguylol video of palm europe experience: Where the f are the apps?
19:09.17Eguyboo france
19:12.16Toaster23OMG its lady gaga
19:12.20Toaster23ugh
19:12.23Toaster23just switch to palm
19:12.55Eguywho cares about polaroid
19:14.55Eguysdk is now open to the public
19:15.00Eguyno registration needed
19:17.43Eguythis is a lot like Microsofts keynote...
19:30.16etxhttp://digg.com/programming/Palm_webOS_PDK_announced_Native_Apps_with_OpenGL
19:30.19etxdigg it heh
19:30.28Eguytoday marks the end of iphone dominance
19:30.40etxthat it does
19:30.59etxgreat move on palms part, I'm so proud hah
19:31.18EguyHoly crap palm! 2 years in a row
19:31.45TemplarianAndroid was already taking away from iPhone, now Palm can finally take over.
19:31.54gkatsev_zhunterwow, so many great news
19:32.09gkatsev_zhunterthis is awesome
19:32.24Eguythey finally pulled their heads out of their asses
19:32.34gkatsev_zhunteryes
19:32.50gkatsev_zhunternow if only they change the marketing. they could really beat the iphone
19:32.59Eguyyup
19:33.05gkatsev_zhunterwell, if they get the pre on vzw
19:33.08TemplarianNice, feb.
19:33.47Eguyjesus christ palm
19:33.52Eguyit's too much
19:34.01Eguyguys in -internals are going to die
19:34.16gkatsev_zhunterno they wont
19:34.57gkatsev_zhuntertheyll just release doom and quake and supertux to the app catalog via the OSS distribution
19:35.16Eguylol
19:35.24Eguyflash demo on stage
19:35.50Eguybeta soon from app catlog
19:35.54EguyI knew it!
19:35.56Eguycatalog*
19:35.56gkatsev_zhunterflash now
19:36.00Eguyno need for OTA update
19:36.32Eguyflash is laggy at the moment according to engadget
19:37.32Eguyno competition best in show 2 years in a row
19:37.51gkatsev_zhunteryes
19:38.09gkatsev_zhunterno flash for pixi
19:38.25Eguybahahahhaha
19:38.29Eguyit is too slow
19:38.50EguyKatie is listing off all of the improvements the Pre and Pixi have gotten over the air. "It's fitting the icon is a gift box, because it always makes your experience better." LOL
19:44.59TemplarianWould be funny to see Preware on the demo device, their way of saying thanks
19:45.05Eguyyeah
19:45.14Eguythey did give a shoutout to precentral and homebrew apps
19:59.28Eguynow I need to go and run my errands
19:59.31Eguywhat a morning
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20:27.23gkatsev_zhunterhttp://gizmodo.com/5442881/intels-double+hd-multitouch-wall-is-incredible
20:45.47Eguythe apps are out already
20:45.51Eguyanybody buying?
20:46.11TemplarianThey have been out.
20:46.17Eguyyeah
20:46.26TemplarianNope, may though.
20:46.38EguyI'm thinking of buying scrabble
20:46.56Templariani'm thinking about getting one of the flight sims.
20:47.04EguyI'm SHOCKED that they are so reasonable
20:47.20Eguyholy shit, I didn't see x-plane
20:48.53TemplarianYea, that's the game I want to get
20:49.00EguyI just got it
20:49.04Eguy203mb lol
20:49.12Eguy210*
20:49.41gkatsev_zhunterxplane is awesome
20:49.52gkatsev_zhunterive seen it, but havent bought it
20:49.54Eguyyeah
20:50.02EguyI use it on my desktop to practice
20:51.19Eguyhmm no center button, I wonder if there is a LED
20:52.07TemplarianHow large is x-plane?
20:52.09Eguyomg http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/samsung-led-9000-the-only-led-tv-with-a-cooler-remote-than-disp/
20:52.15Eguy210mb
20:52.30gkatsev_zhunterEguy: yes, and functions like center button
20:52.37Eguylike the pixi
20:52.58Eguysmart, no accidental keypresses
20:53.09EguyI wonder if those demo vzw phones have 1.3.5
20:53.11Eguy.1
20:53.23TemplarianIt should have never had a home button, I'm just happy they got rid of it
20:53.32Mouseystill wants freeciv =(
20:53.33Eguyyup
20:53.36Mouseymoreso, jabber
20:53.49EguyMUST GET PRE WITHOUT CENTER BUTTON
20:53.57Eguyirc synergy
20:53.58Eguy:P
20:54.13Mouseyalso s/synergy/syncml/
20:56.04Eguyiphone has nothing to offer anymore
20:56.38Eguyhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/audi-teams-up-with-nvidia-for-next-gen-mmi-replete-with-google-e/ omg x2
20:58.38Eguybut it has edge LOL
20:59.42Toaster23I'm complaining to palm support about no pre plus on sprint.
21:00.11Eguylol
21:00.18Eguyit will come in time
21:00.26Toaster23I cant wait till june
21:00.28Eguywhat about the losers on AT&T who got nothing LOL
21:00.29Toaster23tooo long
21:00.49EguyI can't wait until feb. ;)
21:01.06Toaster23http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=31016 << I think I'm being ignored now.
21:01.14gkatsev_zhunterToaster23: thats what we get for being early adopters, unfortunately.
21:01.41Toaster23grr I would PAY full price for the plus but its on verizon only which sucks a$$
21:01.53EguyI don't even feel cheated
21:02.00Toaster23:O he is typing back
21:02.06Toaster23probably had to talk to the mangager lol
21:02.07EguyI'm just so excited that webos is not going to suck anymore
21:02.12gkatsev_zhunteryeah
21:02.16Toaster234:02 PM Sabino: I am sorry we do not have information on this.
21:02.19Eguyhe will probably say what is the plus?
21:02.22EguyHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
21:02.25Toaster234:02 PM Sabino: You need to contact Sprint for this.
21:02.38Toaster23Why would I have to contact sprint?
21:02.50EguySprint will say what is the palm pre?
21:03.06gkatsev_zhunterwell, really, its contact vzw
21:03.31Eguyx-plane is 505 done
21:04.13Eguy50%*
21:05.25Toaster23haha they had a survey afterwards, so I said palm support sucked, but I said their products were good.
21:05.41EguyLOL
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21:16.04Eguyso these 3d games are all around 200mb lol
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21:23.36TemplarianYep, sims 2 is huge also
21:23.43Templarian3*
21:26.58Eguybe back later
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22:06.52Eguywow xplane is awesome
22:10.20dangerskewreally? i'm trying to decide which of the new games to buy.
22:10.33dangerskewits between x-plane, NFS, and tetris
22:11.16Eguyxplane is crazy
22:11.25EguyI haven't tried NFS yet
22:11.40dangerskewis xplane just a simulation or are there missions and stuff too?
22:11.41EguyI want to get scrabble
22:11.46Eguysim
22:24.09Eguyawesome I got a little gauge for my car that shows live horsepower/mpg/rpm numbers
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