| 00:07.54 | Tem|afk | Tekkub, did you mean to mispell "naked" in your wiki description of Metrognome |
| 00:10.38 | Tain | Screw it, I'm putting in a tshirtsfromhell.com order. |
| 00:10.43 | Tain | tshirthell.com that is |
| 00:11.51 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 00:12.46 | hyperChipmunk | "Reason for return: It's kinda of...um, ashes" |
| 00:13.22 | ckknight | hey, where can I get a timeline of WoW events? |
| 00:13.30 | ckknight | I'm looking on WoWWiki |
| 00:13.33 | ckknight | I found the loading events |
| 00:13.38 | ckknight | but not the exiting events |
| 00:38.48 | *** join/#wowace banditron (n=cbandito@cpe-67-9-143-58.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 00:44.25 | kergoth | Tain: hehe, what shirts did you order? |
| 01:35.11 | cladhaire | Evening. |
| 01:37.53 | otravi | hello |
| 01:39.12 | id` | I am installing wow |
| 01:39.14 | id` | >_< |
| 01:39.21 | id` | gunna play on a private server |
| 01:39.25 | cladhaire | how is that going for you? |
| 01:39.27 | cladhaire | oooh i wanna play |
| 01:39.37 | Tem|afk | but... |
| 01:39.44 | id` | :D? |
| 01:39.46 | Tem|afk | private server == bad? |
| 01:39.49 | cladhaire | hey.. if thats how we get ID to play.. its what needs to be done =) |
| 01:39.53 | id` | depends |
| 01:40.00 | id` | Im doing it just to have fun |
| 01:40.22 | id` | and i want the nice hud back |
| 01:40.23 | id` | :( |
| 01:40.35 | hyperChipmunk | heh boss: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1242.msg21235.html#msg21235 |
| 01:40.38 | id` | so going to use your sexy frames |
| 01:40.40 | id` | cladhaire, |
| 01:40.43 | id` | for the raid |
| 01:41.00 | cladhaire | my frames that dont work? |
| 01:41.12 | id` | :< |
| 01:41.12 | cladhaire | lolol |
| 01:41.21 | id` | really need to catch up with things i see |
| 01:41.21 | id` | :p |
| 01:41.41 | cladhaire | well, which frames? |
| 01:41.41 | hyperChipmunk | does ace have an rgb-to-hex function? |
| 01:41.55 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: No... there's one in WatchDog.. |
| 01:42.00 | cladhaire | i can pastebin |
| 01:42.10 | hyperChipmunk | if you wouldn't mind =) |
| 01:43.05 | cladhaire | http://ace.pastebin.com/648744 |
| 01:43.13 | hyperChipmunk | thanks, much appreciated =) |
| 01:44.09 | hyperChipmunk | cladhaire: who do I attribute that to? is it yours? |
| 01:44.32 | Tem | cladhaire has been maintaining and developing on Watchdog for a long time now |
| 01:44.39 | hyperChipmunk | alright |
| 01:44.41 | Tem | since Vika left the community |
| 01:44.46 | cladhaire | its Vika's code. |
| 01:44.53 | Tem | like... last may or something |
| 01:44.55 | cladhaire | so attribute it there |
| 01:44.59 | cladhaire | it'll be a blast to the past =) |
| 01:45.00 | hyperChipmunk | alright, thanks |
| 01:45.07 | hyperChipmunk | it's a useful function |
| 01:45.10 | hyperChipmunk | it should be standard |
| 01:45.17 | Tem | so it's been nearly a year that you've been working on Watchdog, cladhaire? |
| 01:45.26 | hyperChipmunk | what's watchdog, btw =) |
| 01:45.35 | Tem | hyperChipmunk, it's a pretty easy feat using string.format |
| 01:45.43 | Tem | hyperChipmunk, watchdog is a unitframe addon |
| 01:45.54 | cladhaire | ~watchdog |
| 01:45.55 | purl | A software watchdog. URL: http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/daemons/watchdog/ |
| 01:46.00 | id` | watchdog sucks |
| 01:46.01 | cladhaire | *cry* |
| 01:46.01 | Tem | aparently it's god for healing classes |
| 01:46.24 | Tem | ~literalinfo watchdog |
| 01:46.32 | id` | j/k cladhaire, its actually the one nearest to perfection :P |
| 01:46.57 | cladhaire | hahah not even close. |
| 01:47.02 | Tem | ~smack purl |
| 01:47.03 | purl | ACTION smacks purl upside the head. |
| 01:47.08 | Tem | heh |
| 01:47.09 | cladhaire | but i'm getting there |
| 01:55.40 | otravi | I just checked out KLHThreatMeter... and I'm glad I'm not required to use it :p |
| 01:56.30 | otravi | It changed my memory increase from 2 KB/s to 60 KB/s when idle |
| 01:56.37 | pagefault | this is a weird item |
| 01:56.41 | pagefault | it doesn't bind at all |
| 01:56.57 | otravi | what item? |
| 01:57.08 | pagefault | dragonskin cowl of frost resistance |
| 01:57.16 | pagefault | it's a blue item but doesn't bind at all |
| 01:58.23 | otravi | might be a bug in 1.10 :) |
| 01:58.29 | otravi | I've seen items without durability before so |
| 01:58.42 | pagefault | it's just funny passing the item around |
| 01:59.13 | otravi | hehe |
| 02:03.59 | Neriak | g' night mates |
| 02:05.16 | id` | nn Neriak |
| 02:05.21 | id` | i brought food to my room |
| 02:05.27 | id` | so im sitting this night out |
| 02:09.15 | *** join/#wowace Tem (n=tard@adsl-1-74-195.lft.bellsouth.net) |
| 02:09.35 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem|Food] by ChanServ |
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| 02:43.56 | otravi | so nice to test addons, with drunk people |
| 02:44.16 | Wobin_ | Well, they really tell you what they think of your addon =P |
| 02:44.28 | otravi | hehe |
| 02:44.36 | otravi | I was just going to have them tap a mob |
| 02:45.02 | otravi | and he uses wardrobe so everytime he goes out of combat he takes all his gear on again |
| 02:45.11 | otravi | and he uesd around 5min to take it off |
| 02:45.43 | otravi | anyway, 1 second update is enough to check if a unit is tapped? |
| 02:46.11 | Wobin_ | ... better to go with the half second or 3/4 second |
| 02:46.24 | otravi | a half it is then |
| 02:50.47 | Wobin_ | Rightio |
| 02:50.52 | Wobin_ | Updated to oRA =) |
| 02:54.00 | Kaelten | hows it going guys? |
| 02:54.40 | ckknight | I'm pretty meh |
| 02:54.46 | ckknight | need something to do |
| 02:54.56 | otravi | I'm very very very tired |
| 02:55.05 | otravi | and I make a lot of mistakes because of it :( |
| 03:02.22 | cladhaire | Heyas Kaelten |
| 03:21.28 | Kaelten | hey clad |
| 03:21.31 | Kaelten | hows things going? |
| 03:29.55 | cladhaire | its okay |
| 03:29.59 | cladhaire | trying to get back into coding. |
| 03:30.12 | cladhaire | running my boyfriend through gnomeregan quick tho |
| 03:31.10 | Kaelten | lol, thats cool |
| 03:31.27 | cladhaire | Can you give me some desired behavior on AceState? |
| 03:31.33 | Tain | I did some online tshirt shopping today including this gem. https://secure9.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/product_detail.asp?CS=tshirtstha&RowID=26&All= |
| 03:31.50 | cladhaire | as in.. when you want :Initialize() :Emable() and Disable() Called |
| 03:31.55 | Tain | whiiiich that link won't work |
| 03:32.10 | cladhaire | =) |
| 03:32.44 | Tain | https://secure9.nexternal.com/tshirtstha/images/crotchswatch.jpg |
| 03:34.00 | cladhaire | lol |
| 03:35.01 | Tain | Best believe I'm wearing that to the first big family BBQ of the summer. |
| 03:36.22 | cladhaire | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CPN92E/002-3432080-1821636?v=glance&n=1036592 |
| 03:36.23 | cladhaire | is better |
| 03:40.17 | Tain | hehe yes I've seen that one, very nice. |
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| 03:40.29 | Kaelten | err |
| 03:40.29 | Kaelten | fun |
| 03:40.29 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:40.29 | hyperChipmunk | >8p |
| 03:41.16 | Cairenn | wb |
| 03:41.16 | Norque | what the hell just happened? |
| 03:41.17 | hyperChipmunk | we had a party |
| 03:41.17 | hyperChipmunk | then you came back |
| 03:41.17 | Cairenn | net split |
| 03:41.17 | hyperChipmunk | Cairenn got nekkid |
| 03:41.17 | Kaelten | damnit I missed it again! |
| 03:41.17 | Norque | damn man |
| 03:41.49 | Cairenn | you had your chance Kael :p |
| 03:41.49 | Kaelten | lol |
| 03:41.49 | Norque | should have come back sooner |
| 03:41.49 | Cairenn | *tease* |
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| 03:43.57 | ckknight | it was awesome |
| 03:44.00 | ckknight | ~cheer Cairenn |
| 03:44.02 | purl | Three cheers for Cairenn! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! |
| 03:44.09 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:47.07 | otravi | hmm, on AceUnitFrames: only target = 12KB/s, show target's target and you get: 137KB/s increae |
| 03:47.13 | otravi | that't not... good |
| 03:47.38 | banditron | lol yikes |
| 03:47.41 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 03:47.50 | hyperChipmunk | might want to throttle that back a tad, hmm? |
| 03:48.05 | otravi | I should test some other AUF addon.. might be me who has done something VERY strange |
| 03:50.14 | hyperChipmunk | waaait a minute |
| 03:50.25 | hyperChipmunk | why you at 12KB/s in the first place? |
| 03:51.19 | otravi | yikes... 159KB/s on AcePlayerGrid |
| 03:51.36 | hyperChipmunk | take the protein folding code out |
| 03:51.44 | otravi | "stable" at 156KB/s ... |
| 03:51.57 | Kaelten | can someone try reaching svn.wowace.com |
| 03:52.10 | hyperChipmunk | http? |
| 03:52.14 | Kaelten | yep |
| 03:52.22 | otravi | 404 - not found |
| 03:52.25 | hyperChipmunk | 404 |
| 03:52.25 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 03:52.56 | hyperChipmunk | / not found, specifically |
| 03:54.44 | hyperChipmunk | oh hm, I've still got it in my .hosts |
| 03:54.50 | otravi | if (vars.timeSinceLastUpdate > .02) then << isn't that a little too often? |
| 03:54.57 | hyperChipmunk | YES |
| 03:55.00 | hyperChipmunk | holy crap |
| 03:55.00 | otravi | of just checking if you have a targettarget :p |
| 03:55.04 | hyperChipmunk | 50 times/sec |
| 03:55.09 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 03:55.10 | otravi | yeh... |
| 03:55.19 | otravi | no wonder people say AceUnitFrames has a leak :p |
| 03:55.39 | hyperChipmunk | wait! stop! let's see if it's target's changed...no? ok, then--wait!.. |
| 03:56.11 | hyperChipmunk | has it changed yet? has it changed yet? has it changed yet? now? now? now?now?now?now? |
| 03:56.17 | otravi | haha |
| 03:56.42 | otravi | .5 should be fine for that |
| 03:56.53 | otravi | stable 6KB/s increase then :) |
| 03:57.06 | hyperChipmunk | smidge better |
| 03:57.29 | hyperChipmunk | dude, can wow even count that high resolution? |
| 03:58.13 | otravi | I don't think I want to know |
| 04:00.46 | otravi | *sends a PM to Thirsterhall* |
| 04:06.21 | otravi | changed it to .5, and with a target I have 1KB/s increase, and with a target that has a target I have 6KB/s |
| 04:06.37 | Kaelten | well the new svn is going to be hosted at that address |
| 04:06.45 | Kaelten | we need a dns edit to make it work though |
| 04:06.59 | otravi | so no use updating on the current one? |
| 04:07.07 | Kaelten | just waiting on dolby to do that but hes at a fanfair |
| 04:07.11 | Kaelten | not really |
| 04:07.25 | Kaelten | each author is goign to be able to request his own private repository |
| 04:07.46 | hyperChipmunk | still at 208.97.133.166? |
| 04:07.50 | Kaelten | 208.97.133.166 |
| 04:07.52 | Kaelten | yep |
| 04:08.17 | hyperChipmunk | yea, nuttin |
| 04:08.34 | Kaelten | well if you edit your hosts file with a line like this one |
| 04:08.44 | hyperChipmunk | 208.97.133.166 svn.wowace.com |
| 04:08.46 | hyperChipmunk | ? |
| 04:09.01 | hyperChipmunk | >8P |
| 04:09.04 | Kaelten | 208.97.133.166svn.wowace.com |
| 04:09.06 | Kaelten | yep |
| 04:09.13 | otravi | reversed on nix |
| 04:09.15 | Kaelten | that let me see and used it |
| 04:09.16 | otravi | err |
| 04:09.17 | otravi | not... |
| 04:09.19 | otravi | ignore me :o |
| 04:10.00 | hyperChipmunk | like that one I just pasted out of my ~/.hosts =) |
| 04:10.00 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 04:10.00 | otravi | I'm clearly need some sleep now |
| 04:10.57 | otravi | that typo just shows it... |
| 04:12.28 | hyperChipmunk | there's an ancient chinese remedy for that, actually |
| 04:12.42 | hyperChipmunk | what you do, is you go lie down |
| 04:12.45 | hyperChipmunk | and close your eyes |
| 04:12.56 | hyperChipmunk | and clear your mind |
| 04:13.15 | hyperChipmunk | a few hours later, you're magically cured |
| 04:13.29 | otravi | well, if I go to sleep now |
| 04:13.43 | otravi | I will just wake up with some idea to solve what I'm currently doing... |
| 04:13.52 | hyperChipmunk | that's what I do |
| 04:13.54 | hyperChipmunk | every night |
| 04:14.09 | otravi | I want to finish this before I go to bed :p |
| 04:14.10 | hyperChipmunk | and then I get up and go to school |
| 04:14.26 | hyperChipmunk | and lose all motivation and recollection when I get home |
| 04:16.51 | Kaelten | night guys |
| 04:16.56 | hyperChipmunk | sweet dreams |
| 04:17.58 | hyperChipmunk | =( tem isn't food anymore |
| 04:18.32 | otravi | now to fix the fact that my WoW crashes with a critical error |
| 04:24.36 | *** join/#wowace Tem_ (n=Tem@adsl-1-74-195.lft.bellsouth.net) |
| 04:24.36 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem_] by ChanServ |
| 04:24.46 | Tem | oh this should be interesting |
| 04:25.01 | ckknight | ? |
| 04:25.03 | Tem_ | indeed!~ |
| 04:25.22 | Tain | Obviously one is the evil Tem |
| 04:25.31 | ckknight | I'm thinking Tem is the evil Tem |
| 04:25.52 | Tem | he's evil! |
| 04:25.54 | Tain | I was thinking Tem_ looks like it could be Tem with a goatee, adn everyone knows a goatee is evil. |
| 04:25.55 | Tem_ | pshaw |
| 04:26.09 | hyperChipmunk | Flexo! |
| 04:26.17 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:26.28 | *** join/#wowace Tem__ (n=tard@adsl-1-74-195.lft.bellsouth.net) |
| 04:26.33 | ckknight | I was write about the evil tem |
| 04:26.33 | Tain | Oh dear. |
| 04:26.36 | hyperChipmunk | omg |
| 04:26.36 | Tem | oh lol |
| 04:26.44 | hyperChipmunk | he can't be put down! |
| 04:26.46 | Tem | stupid client rejoining |
| 04:26.55 | hyperChipmunk | tard indeed |
| 04:27.16 | otravi | Evil tem has returned for revenge! |
| 04:27.25 | Tem | psh |
| 04:27.29 | Tem | I kicked him out |
| 04:27.36 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.06 | otravi | and there: the crash issue solved |
| 04:31.45 | Tem | oh yaya |
| 04:31.55 | Tem | s/aya/ay/ |
| 04:32.14 | Tem | finaly a section of the book with more programming theory than java syntax |
| 04:32.55 | hyperChipmunk | java syntax => pagecount++ |
| 04:34.22 | Tem | that's not what I meant |
| 04:34.29 | cladhaire | night all |
| 04:34.36 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but that's what the author was thinking =) |
| 04:34.44 | Tem | I mean the chapter is about theory rather than "this is X feature in java" |
| 04:34.48 | Tem | night cladhaire |
| 04:34.51 | hyperChipmunk | sweet dreams, clad; thx for the refer to the RBG-Hex |
| 04:35.01 | ckknight | ++ is evil. |
| 04:35.14 | Tem | what's your problem with ++? |
| 04:35.23 | ckknight | it's more confusing than += 1 |
| 04:35.34 | ckknight | and unnecessary if += 1 exists |
| 04:36.03 | Tem | with things like iterators, it's more useful to use ++ |
| 04:36.05 | hyperChipmunk | my point was java syntax is enormous, and therefore makes for more pages, thus bigger books, thus more expensive books, thus more money for author |
| 04:36.19 | ckknight | Tem, why not use i += 1? |
| 04:36.22 | Tem | the authors get almost nothing |
| 04:36.29 | hyperChipmunk | publishers |
| 04:36.41 | Tem | ckknight: because you might not define an operator for adding an integer value |
| 04:36.44 | ckknight | if you ever write a book, publish it yourself |
| 04:36.46 | hyperChipmunk | omg 4 extra chars |
| 04:37.11 | ckknight | Tem, then you should be using iter.next() or what have you |
| 04:37.34 | Tem | in c++ it's comon practice to have ++ map to next |
| 04:37.45 | ckknight | are we talking about C++? |
| 04:37.52 | Tem | well... |
| 04:37.54 | Tem | yeah |
| 04:37.56 | ckknight | no. |
| 04:37.58 | ckknight | we're not |
| 04:38.08 | Tem | That's what I'm talking about |
| 04:38.12 | ckknight | well, I'm not |
| 04:38.13 | Tem | wtf language are you talking about? |
| 04:38.23 | ckknight | we were talking about Java, weren't we? |
| 04:38.42 | Tem | you can't overload operators in java |
| 04:38.45 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.56 | hyperChipmunk | actually, I was just making a play-on-syntax |
| 04:39.10 | ckknight | either way, syntax theory is a tough art |
| 04:39.26 | Tem | indeed |
| 04:39.40 | ckknight | I dabbled with it quite a bit when I was developing for Boo |
| 04:41.23 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.23 | Tekkub | That's right, the 1.11 changes are to the events that get delivered. No Lua code was changed, so the optimization that you're doing now will no longer be necessary (or more correctly, the optimization you're doing now will be freely available to everyone without any script changes) |
| 04:41.26 | Tekkub | WEWT! |
| 04:41.43 | hyperChipmunk | o_O |
| 04:41.54 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:41.57 | hyperChipmunk | so why wait until 1.11? |
| 04:42.05 | ckknight | so the code to disable should go in now |
| 04:42.09 | ckknight | but then disabled in 11100 |
| 04:42.15 | Tekkub | chip... did you read the thread? |
| 04:42.18 | ckknight | err, removed |
| 04:43.00 | Tekkub | chip: slou's post immediatly after his post I just pasted.... |
| 04:43.01 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:43.02 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:43.02 | Tekkub | Because it's very possible that I accidentally broke something, and the changes will need lots of Q/A and some time on the test realm before I'm comfortable with them going live. :) |
| 04:47.57 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 04:48.03 | hyperChipmunk | no, I just responded to your paste |
| 05:01.27 | hyperChipmunk | boss you here? |
| 05:01.52 | hyperChipmunk | take a look at the latest comment on the BattlegroundFu page |
| 05:02.07 | hyperChipmunk | er, thread |
| 05:02.15 | hyperChipmunk | on the Ace AddOn Collection board |
| 05:02.36 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1242.msg21235.html#msg21235 |
| 05:03.08 | hyperChipmunk | I think that's your arena |
| 05:03.27 | hyperChipmunk | and frankly, it's an interesting point |
| 05:03.54 | hyperChipmunk | since the frames aren't really tooltips, right? that possible at all? |
| 05:09.09 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:09.14 | ckknight | yes, it's quite possible, hyperChipmunk |
| 05:09.20 | ckknight | basically, it'd have to make another tooltip |
| 05:09.27 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:09.32 | hyperChipmunk | I admit the idea is really quite excellent |
| 05:09.40 | ckknight | it is an interesting idea |
| 05:09.42 | hyperChipmunk | especially w/ my mod |
| 05:09.46 | ckknight | and could be applied to many addons |
| 05:09.49 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 05:10.10 | ckknight | such as the quests one |
| 05:10.12 | Tem | you mean to make the tooltip "sticky" ? |
| 05:10.13 | hyperChipmunk | also make your panel more suitable for a wider range of applications |
| 05:10.17 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 05:10.21 | ckknight | sticky and movable |
| 05:10.23 | Tem | that's a cool idea |
| 05:10.47 | hyperChipmunk | I think it's a fantastic idea |
| 05:10.52 | hyperChipmunk | /nudge boss |
| 05:10.57 | ckknight | maybe right-click the tooltip to bring up a size/transparency thing as well |
| 05:11.05 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:11.16 | ckknight | file a feature request explaining everything |
| 05:11.19 | ckknight | otherwise I'll forget |
| 05:11.26 | hyperChipmunk | I see the lightbulbs exploding above boss's head |
| 05:11.28 | ckknight | I only have 66 more minutes left of Family Guy |
| 05:11.31 | ckknight | then I'll get on it |
| 05:11.46 | hyperChipmunk | you rock dude |
| 05:12.54 | ckknight | think of a UI way to detach the tooltip |
| 05:14.32 | hyperChipmunk | I like a shift-click on the button |
| 05:14.46 | hyperChipmunk | i don't think it has to be universal though |
| 05:14.49 | hyperChipmunk | well |
| 05:14.50 | hyperChipmunk | hmm |
| 05:15.10 | hyperChipmunk | I say, make it part of the right-click menu with disable, cancel, right side, colorize |
| 05:15.34 | hyperChipmunk | and allow the mod authors to call BossPanelTooltip:Detach() or something |
| 05:15.52 | hyperChipmunk | so they can set it as an OnClick |
| 05:16.09 | hyperChipmunk | actually |
| 05:16.23 | ckknight | not shift-click |
| 05:16.30 | ckknight | shift-click posts text to the chat edit box |
| 05:16.57 | ckknight | I'd have to revamp the tooltip deal |
| 05:17.07 | ckknight | cause there would be multiple tooltips |
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| 05:17.26 | ckknight | so you can't do FuBarTooltip:AddLine() |
| 05:17.32 | ckknight | you'd have to get an instance of the tooltip |
| 05:17.34 | ckknight | or something |
| 05:17.50 | ckknight | of a* tooltip |
| 05:19.57 | hyperChipmunk | can you make a new one and then duplicate the commands or something? |
| 05:20.28 | hyperChipmunk | like, hm |
| 05:21.09 | hyperChipmunk | make an isDetached that's true when there's a detached version, and apply the commands to PluginFu and PluginFu_Detached |
| 05:21.15 | hyperChipmunk | there shoulnd't be a need for more than one at a time |
| 05:21.44 | hyperChipmunk | I mean, the normal tooltip and a single detached one should be enough |
| 05:21.55 | ckknight | if canDetach is true, self.tooltip will be provided |
| 05:21.56 | ckknight | maybe |
| 05:24.08 | ckknight | or maybe just provide self.tooltip anyway |
| 05:25.31 | hyperChipmunk | still want me to submit that feature request? I think we're getting more down here in our chatlogs than I can keep up with =P |
| 05:25.44 | ckknight | ... |
| 05:25.48 | ckknight | make a simple feature |
| 05:25.59 | ckknight | like "be able to detach tooltips" |
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| 05:33.16 | hyperChipmunk | done |
| 05:33.19 | hyperChipmunk | friggin autosmilies |
| 05:33.25 | hyperChipmunk | I totally turned those off |
| 05:33.37 | ckknight | same |
| 05:34.02 | hyperChipmunk | it still crept in there =P |
| 05:39.33 | hyperChipmunk | anyway, "I was hoping though, that there would be some update in the future to "detach" the score board so i can leave it up at all times?" |
| 05:39.36 | hyperChipmunk | oops |
| 05:39.39 | hyperChipmunk | wrong clip |
| 05:39.55 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=54&a=viewfeature&featureid=479 |
| 05:40.30 | hyperChipmunk | dude that would be so awesome to have for my plugin |
| 05:40.36 | hyperChipmunk | you can't even understand =) |
| 05:40.42 | hyperChipmunk | and debugging purposes |
| 05:40.44 | hyperChipmunk | heck yes |
| 05:40.56 | hyperChipmunk | leave it up all the time, so you don't miss anything |
| 05:41.08 | hyperChipmunk | if it's showing wrong at any time, you'll notice it |
| 05:42.02 | hyperChipmunk | ha, you were lookin for something to sink your teeth into earlier, weren't you |
| 05:42.07 | hyperChipmunk | now ya got a full plate >8) |
| 05:44.20 | ckknight | I still want to write more libraries and such |
| 05:44.24 | hyperChipmunk | dude, this feature will be the final nail in titan's coffin, if done right |
| 05:44.33 | ckknight | maybe I should turn the tooltip into a library |
| 05:44.56 | hyperChipmunk | you just made FuBar viable for a whole ton of transient-type status update mods |
| 05:45.12 | hyperChipmunk | status monitoring mods, I should say |
| 05:45.27 | hyperChipmunk | I'm liking the debug potential too |
| 05:45.39 | ckknight | I am doing this for quest dealy. |
| 05:45.50 | ckknight | mmm... |
| 05:45.52 | ckknight | quest dealy |
| 05:46.01 | hyperChipmunk | feh |
| 05:46.25 | ckknight | btw, I _do_ want to take a lot of the features from HonorFu and put it into BattlegroundFu |
| 05:46.41 | hyperChipmunk | new bloat-reduction strategy |
| 05:46.49 | ckknight | ? |
| 05:46.53 | hyperChipmunk | find a similar mod to offload your extra features onto~! |
| 05:46.59 | ckknight | lol |
| 05:47.02 | hyperChipmunk | BRILLIANT! |
| 05:47.19 | ckknight | I just want the battleground features to go into it |
| 05:47.30 | ckknight | but leave the basic PvP/Honor stuff in HonorFu |
| 05:48.36 | hyperChipmunk | yea, well probably best not to do it just yet |
| 05:48.55 | ckknight | yea, not quite yet |
| 05:49.07 | hyperChipmunk | for no other reason than I suck and my plugin keeps breaking |
| 05:49.17 | hyperChipmunk | ppl might get a bit peeved |
| 05:50.16 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:04.12 | ckknight | though by many are abhorred, Hebrew people I adore |
| 06:05.36 | ckknight | (watching Family Guy) |
| 06:13.47 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 06:19.39 | ckknight | and Family Guy is done |
| 06:19.43 | ckknight | and I have an empty feeling inside |
| 06:19.59 | ckknight | which hopefully will be filled by Chicken... |
| 06:23.26 | Wobin_ | mmm |
| 06:23.29 | Wobin_ | chikin |
| 06:24.03 | ckknight | I tried to fill it with religion, but that turned out to be a sham |
| 06:24.10 | ckknight | chicken is really my last hope |
| 06:24.18 | ckknight | well, off to bug fix |
| 06:24.22 | ckknight | then to add features |
| 06:24.33 | ckknight | btw, damn you, hyperChipmunk |
| 06:24.40 | ckknight | you are preventing me from releasing 1.0 |
| 06:30.03 | *** join/#wowace [MoonWolf] (i=moonwolf@f176182.upc-f.chello.nl) |
| 06:30.04 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [MoonWolf]] by ChanServ |
| 06:32.26 | [MoonWolf] | note to self |
| 06:32.32 | [MoonWolf] | dont release stuff in the middle of the night. |
| 06:32.35 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 06:32.35 | [MoonWolf] | it breaks stuff |
| 06:33.44 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:34.06 | ckknight | oh I do |
| 06:34.33 | ckknight | :-) |
| 06:37.04 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I do it every night =P |
| 06:50.39 | [MoonWolf] | there fixed. |
| 06:52.08 | Cairenn|sleep | night all |
| 06:52.44 | ckknight | g'night |
| 06:53.19 | Tem | lol |
| 06:53.22 | Tem | I love our raids |
| 06:53.24 | Tem | http://shadowtribe.org/z.jpg |
| 06:54.51 | ckknight | I'm contemplating deleting all the requests for plugin in the FuBar feature request part |
| 06:55.17 | Tem | at least people use your portal |
| 06:56.33 | Cairenn|sleep | Tem: that's because your mods are so awesome there are no bugs to report or features to request |
| 06:56.41 | Tem | hah |
| 06:56.58 | Tem | I've had people track me down to my server and create a toon to bug me about a "bug" |
| 06:57.10 | Tem | which, btw, really creeped me out |
| 06:57.38 | Cairenn|sleep | welcome to my world |
| 06:57.44 | Tem | because my guild, server, and name there aren't out there in many places |
| 06:57.50 | Tem | like, you really have to do some digging to find me |
| 06:58.42 | Tem | I think I've posted in the UI Forum with my main like once |
| 06:59.00 | [MoonWolf] | tem, you have to be kidding about that one. |
| 06:59.07 | Tem | true story |
| 06:59.07 | banditron | lol. i just checked and there is a site: stalker.net |
| 06:59.08 | [MoonWolf] | people dont do that.... right. |
| 06:59.26 | Tem | [MoonWolf]: I didn't believe it either |
| 06:59.55 | Cairenn|sleep | "Level 8 Night Elf Priest, Realm:Â Firetree" |
| 06:59.59 | [MoonWolf] | there is let me count 4 easy places to do bug reports. |
| 07:00.23 | [MoonWolf] | irc, ace forums, wowi forums, wowi portal.... and they go and find you on your server.... |
| 07:00.24 | Tem | Cairenn|sleep: I usually post with my Draka toon nowadays |
| 07:00.30 | Cairenn|sleep | I know |
| 07:00.33 | Tem | [MoonWolf]: it was a while back |
| 07:00.46 | [MoonWolf] | I hope that never happens to me. |
| 07:00.50 | Tem | [MoonWolf]: I think they managed to find me though a google of the Addon name |
| 07:01.03 | banditron | that seems pretty straightforward |
| 07:01.28 | ckknight | that is creepy, tem |
| 07:01.52 | Tem | banditron: well it wasn't exactly first page stuff |
| 07:01.59 | Tem | lets see if it's still there |
| 07:02.39 | Cairenn|sleep | as I said, welcome to my world :p |
| 07:02.54 | Tem | nope |
| 07:03.03 | Tem | Cairenn|sleep: does this happen to you often? |
| 07:03.08 | Cairenn|sleep | often enough |
| 07:03.20 | banditron | does anyone have a bug they need tracked down... or something to do |
| 07:03.26 | Tem | oh wow... |
| 07:03.35 | Tem | aparently FilterTradeSkill is popular in japan |
| 07:03.35 | [MoonWolf] | you can download mendeleev and see if it actually works this time |
| 07:03.40 | [MoonWolf] | although i am 90% sure. |
| 07:03.41 | Cairenn|sleep | I'm pretty used to it though, been putting up with it for .... 5? ... years or so now |
| 07:03.49 | Cairenn|sleep | happened to me back in EQ too |
| 07:03.50 | Tem | it's in like 6 addon compilations on pages that are in all japaneese |
| 07:03.57 | [MoonWolf] | there are idiots like that in eq ? |
| 07:04.16 | ckknight | what language do the Japanese use? |
| 07:04.18 | [MoonWolf] | tem, there is a chinese site discussing mendeleev somewhere. |
| 07:04.24 | Tem | hehe |
| 07:04.27 | Tem | awesome |
| 07:04.32 | Cairenn|sleep | [MoonWolf]: yup |
| 07:04.37 | Tem | ckknight: so I can't spell |
| 07:04.39 | Tem | ckknight: sue me |
| 07:04.50 | ckknight | ? |
| 07:04.54 | [MoonWolf] | I thought EQ was mostly idiot free. another dream shattered. |
| 07:04.56 | ckknight | huh? |
| 07:05.40 | banditron | lol i thought it would work too. BORKED |
| 07:06.59 | banditron | k, moonwolf, i saw this in tekkub's code too: Compost:Acquire / Reclaim |
| 07:07.07 | [MoonWolf] | banditron, explain what is wrong. |
| 07:08.25 | hyperChipmunk | Cairenn|sleep: did you do the TKing forums? |
| 07:08.25 | banditron | one sec... i didn't update PT because the dates looked the same |
| 07:08.32 | Cairenn|sleep | hyperChipmunk: yup |
| 07:08.33 | banditron | do i need to update PT? |
| 07:09.10 | hyperChipmunk | I modded those with you awhile |
| 07:09.17 | hyperChipmunk | small world =) |
| 07:09.24 | Cairenn|sleep | hyperChipmunk: ? |
| 07:09.30 | [MoonWolf] | use the pt provided with mendeleev |
| 07:09.34 | hyperChipmunk | Mynlaeni of Vazaelle |
| 07:09.40 | Cairenn|sleep | hyperChipmunk: yeah? cool! |
| 07:09.47 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 07:09.55 | Cairenn|sleep | yup, same Cairenn |
| 07:09.59 | Cairenn|sleep | Tom and I go way back |
| 07:10.00 | [MoonWolf] | i yust made an empy addosn dir, dumped ace and the content of the mendeleev download in it and it works fine. |
| 07:10.13 | hyperChipmunk | I thought I recognized the name |
| 07:11.02 | [MoonWolf] | aha |
| 07:11.08 | [MoonWolf] | i seen the error in pt now. |
| 07:12.38 | banditron | k. PT/TradeSkills.lua used Compost:Acquire() as well which wasn't working |
| 07:12.55 | [MoonWolf] | yeah, the svn version of pt is broken. |
| 07:15.06 | [MoonWolf] | fixing pt |
| 07:15.49 | Cairenn|sleep | okay, really going to bed now |
| 07:15.50 | Cairenn|sleep | night all |
| 07:17.07 | hyperChipmunk | sweet dreams =) |
| 07:17.25 | ckknight | oh, hey, I fixed it so that FuBar doesn't crawl in a hole and die when a plugin doesn't load |
| 07:17.53 | hyperChipmunk | yaay |
| 07:17.56 | hyperChipmunk | cuz like |
| 07:18.05 | hyperChipmunk | that was le suxitude |
| 07:18.14 | ckknight | le suxitude? |
| 07:18.22 | ckknight | not French... |
| 07:18.29 | ckknight | it's der suxitude and you know it |
| 07:18.30 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 07:18.32 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 07:18.41 | ckknight | or die |
| 07:18.42 | ckknight | or das |
| 07:18.43 | hyperChipmunk | french would be le suxeitouilloix |
| 07:18.50 | ckknight | or one of the other 11 words for the in German |
| 07:18.52 | hyperChipmunk | and pronounced 'sux' |
| 07:19.04 | ckknight | no, it'd be pronounced "soo" |
| 07:19.06 | [MoonWolf] | stealth fixed it. |
| 07:19.07 | [MoonWolf] | i think |
| 07:19.10 | hyperChipmunk | heheh |
| 07:21.42 | ckknight | mostly cause you told me to look at it |
| 07:21.58 | [MoonWolf] | the PT bug should be fixed now. |
| 07:22.06 | [MoonWolf] | it is over here |
| 07:22.52 | ckknight | is it tekkub's fault? |
| 07:24.16 | [MoonWolf] | I think it is, the version of PT i included was fresh of the svn. He forgot to modify tradeskills.lua to work with is new compostlib version. |
| 07:28.03 | banditron | k looks good |
| 07:29.38 | banditron | you made changes to Mendeleev.lua as well |
| 07:29.59 | banditron | kinda. |
| 07:31.19 | banditron | in 0.6.4 you used "Compost:Acquire()" is this ever supposed to work? |
| 07:32.09 | [MoonWolf] | not anymore |
| 07:32.58 | [MoonWolf] | compost has has its embedded library structure changed. |
| 07:36.38 | *** join/#wowace kergoth (n=kergoth@12.44.147.155) |
| 07:37.09 | ckknight | hey kergoth |
| 07:37.16 | [MoonWolf] | morning |
| 07:38.05 | kergoth | hey |
| 07:38.14 | kergoth | anyone know why svn.wowace.com is a 404 here? |
| 07:38.44 | [MoonWolf] | fine here |
| 07:38.49 | ckknight | because you have not learned to properly focus the killing chi of the forefathers |
| 07:39.09 | [MoonWolf] | but i have it hard linked in my hosts file |
| 07:39.15 | kergoth | [MoonWolf], to what address? |
| 07:39.32 | kergoth | a direct lookup of svn.wowace.com from wowace's dns servers shows the address my machine gets, so it isnt a caching issue |
| 07:39.39 | kergoth | if anything, they havent updated the dns yet at all |
| 07:39.41 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:39.54 | [MoonWolf] | 208.97.133.166 svn.wowace.com |
| 07:40.01 | ckknight | woot, fixed FuBar's bugs |
| 07:40.22 | [MoonWolf] | find it. |
| 07:40.23 | hyperChipmunk | fubar is bug free? |
| 07:40.28 | kergoth | yeah, that isnt hte address wowace's dns servers have. at least i can get to it now |
| 07:40.36 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, regarding tooltips, afaik |
| 07:40.54 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, I committed to svn |
| 07:42.46 | kergoth | [MoonWolf], is this an svn:// repo or an http:// | https:// ? |
| 07:42.58 | [MoonWolf] | http |
| 07:43.15 | [MoonWolf] | at least that i how i checked out stuff |
| 07:47.54 | hyperChipmunk | ~alrighty |
| 07:48.09 | hyperChipmunk | list of breakage inc =) |
| 07:53.06 | hyperChipmunk | looks good |
| 07:53.09 | hyperChipmunk | deatch plz |
| 07:54.27 | Wobin_ | hey ckknight: You're in charge of DurabilityFu? |
| 07:55.07 | hyperChipmunk | only if you don't have any complaints |
| 07:57.38 | ckknight | yes, Wobin_ |
| 07:57.51 | ckknight | breakage? |
| 07:58.03 | Wobin_ | Hm, it appears the 'fix both' at the merchants doesn't work |
| 07:58.18 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:58.22 | ckknight | works for me... |
| 07:58.25 | Wobin_ | in that it fixes the equipped stuff, but not all the inventory |
| 07:58.27 | Wobin_ | hrm |
| 07:58.31 | Wobin_ | what's the latest version? |
| 07:58.58 | ckknight | least I think it works for me |
| 07:59.12 | ckknight | 0.9.9 |
| 07:59.27 | Wobin_ | hm that's the one I have |
| 07:59.32 | banditron | 0.9.10.237 works for me |
| 08:00.02 | Wobin_ | I choose 'both' money gets taken, but I can reopen the window and it comes back up |
| 08:00.18 | Wobin_ | I'm thinking it's only repairing one item at a time in the inventory or somthing |
| 08:00.26 | ckknight | it shouldn't |
| 08:01.18 | ckknight | will have to test stuff... |
| 08:01.18 | ckknight | gr |
| 08:01.21 | ckknight | grr* |
| 08:03.10 | *** join/#wowace Ktron (i=khamer@student2a-64.unh.edu) |
| 08:03.30 | banditron | bagfu goes crazy w/ certain bags open |
| 08:03.42 | ckknight | fixed that. |
| 08:03.45 | ckknight | like just now |
| 08:03.57 | ckknight | what do you mean goes crazy, though? |
| 08:04.03 | ckknight | may be talking about 2 different things |
| 08:04.03 | hyperChipmunk | no breakage |
| 08:05.18 | banditron | open bags in slot 2 and 4 then hit the "open all bags" plugin |
| 08:05.24 | ckknight | fixed that |
| 08:05.43 | banditron | cool. when's that goin out? |
| 08:05.48 | ckknight | I committed to SVN |
| 08:05.53 | ckknight | I'll put it out eventually |
| 08:07.02 | ckknight | I'll upload it during that magic time when there isn't a FuBar dealy in the New & Updated list, thus continuing the cycle |
| 08:08.18 | ckknight | if you want to get it before that, banditron, it's at svn://ckknight.hopto.org/FuBar/FuBar_BagFu |
| 08:12.14 | banditron | thx |
| 08:14.38 | ckknight | all the plugins are up to date there, FuBar too |
| 08:18.56 | banditron | yeeee fun! |
| 08:24.34 | kergoth | welp, i got a vm from a vm hosting company to run kergoth.com |
| 08:24.46 | kergoth | setting up my procmail rules, including the opensvn trac -> cia rule |
| 08:28.45 | hyperChipmunk | 3woo |
| 08:28.57 | [MoonWolf] | taling about cia... |
| 08:29.03 | hyperChipmunk | ya |
| 08:29.19 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: how's my detachable tooltip coming along? |
| 08:33.18 | ckknight | haven't started |
| 08:33.29 | ckknight | I've been manipulating the AH |
| 08:33.37 | ckknight | I need money |
| 08:33.47 | ckknight | hopefully my price fixing scheme goes through |
| 08:34.46 | hyperChipmunk | unacceptable |
| 08:35.04 | hyperChipmunk | detachment by morning! |
| 08:35.06 | ckknight | don't be a dick |
| 08:38.11 | hyperChipmunk | yes, sir, I was clearly being serious |
| 08:38.38 | ckknight | I don't like being bossed around, even in jest |
| 08:39.16 | hyperChipmunk | you don't like anything in jest; I need to learn to pick on a different target |
| 08:39.22 | hyperChipmunk | moonwolf, you smell |
| 08:39.28 | ckknight | it's funny cause it's true |
| 08:39.52 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth, your girlfriend is fat |
| 08:40.18 | ckknight | why don't you just instead not insult people? |
| 08:40.29 | hyperChipmunk | purl, your grandmother was a whore |
| 08:40.47 | ckknight | it should say something in response |
| 08:44.05 | Tem|Sleep | ckknight: your mother was a hampster |
| 08:44.17 | Tem|Sleep | ckknight: and your father smells of eldeberries |
| 08:44.51 | ckknight | ... |
| 08:45.43 | hyperChipmunk | Tem|Sleep: your spelling sucks |
| 08:45.52 | Tem|Sleep | yes, yes it does |
| 08:48.10 | *** topic/#wowace by [MoonWolf] -> wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | You can tune a guitar, but you cant tuna fish |
| 08:54.42 | [MoonWolf] | seeing as its 10:53 am here |
| 08:54.55 | Tem|Sleep | =P |
| 08:55.11 | ckknight | where are you, [MoonWolf]? |
| 08:55.20 | [MoonWolf] | The Netherlands |
| 08:55.25 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 09:04.45 | banditron | has anyone else noticed how cooldowns and timers are crappy inaccurate now? |
| 09:24.08 | kergoth | hrm |
| 09:24.56 | banditron | just me? |
| 09:28.42 | ckknight | guess so |
| 09:29.55 | hyperChipmunk | night, froods |
| 09:30.07 | ckknight | g'night |
| 09:35.09 | kergoth | http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TagsPlugin .. nice |
| 09:36.53 | HoJ|Slayman | good morning fellows |
| 09:37.06 | HoJ|Slayman | is clad still asleep? |
| 09:43.57 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=Tekk@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net) |
| 09:44.11 | Tekkub | 30-day trial on XChat MY ASS! |
| 09:45.19 | ckknight | hey Tekkub |
| 09:45.21 | [MoonWolf] | tekkub, http://www.silverex.org/news/. |
| 09:45.28 | Tekkub | 'ello |
| 09:45.53 | Tekkub | moon, I said MY ASS didn't I? |
| 09:45.58 | [MoonWolf] | true |
| 09:45.59 | Tekkub | it's not a problem |
| 09:46.13 | [MoonWolf] | kk |
| 09:46.49 | [MoonWolf] | i fixed some remaining compost references |
| 09:47.00 | Tekkub | :) |
| 09:47.02 | [MoonWolf] | in pt , tradeskills.lua |
| 09:47.27 | Tekkub | ah forgot about trandes, I still have old compost floating round my system so I'm not getting errors |
| 09:47.35 | [MoonWolf] | heh |
| 09:48.02 | [MoonWolf] | and I published 3 faulty versions. |
| 09:48.06 | Tekkub | I want to get winged instances seperated out in PT |
| 09:48.08 | [MoonWolf] | last one was that PT thing. |
| 09:48.11 | Tekkub | gonna start with DM I think |
| 09:48.31 | [MoonWolf] | how about starting with the class sets ? |
| 09:48.48 | Tekkub | it's more than just class sets you know :) |
| 09:49.04 | Tekkub | Raid 2 are in, I'll get raid1 in |
| 09:49.24 | Tekkub | and I can't connect to the SVN |
| 09:49.53 | [MoonWolf] | we are gettting svn.wowace.com soon |
| 09:50.27 | [MoonWolf] | but the ace repo at opensvn should not stop working anytime soon. |
| 09:50.53 | Tekkub | it has for me >< |
| 09:51.06 | Tekkub | we gonna migrate the existing repo over? |
| 09:51.19 | [MoonWolf] | it was the plan when i went to bed. |
| 09:51.31 | Tekkub | kewl |
| 09:51.36 | [MoonWolf] | kergoth, any luck on porting the existing repo over ? |
| 09:51.43 | Tekkub | and it'll have an easy way to make accounts, right? |
| 09:51.58 | [MoonWolf] | eeeuh |
| 09:51.59 | [MoonWolf] | i hope |
| 09:52.48 | HoJ|Slayman | MoonWolf: that Compost error thingy came from Mend/PT ? ah ok ... |
| 09:53.13 | [MoonWolf] | partially, some were to my incompetence, some where remainings in PT |
| 09:54.15 | HoJ|Slayman | so the version up on wowi 3h old doesn't have those anymore, right? |
| 09:54.46 | [MoonWolf] | the current version is good. |
| 09:54.47 | [MoonWolf] | i think. |
| 09:55.09 | HoJ|Slayman | i'll give it a quick try |
| 09:55.45 | HoJ|Slayman | does Garfield ever come here? |
| 09:58.50 | kergoth | [MoonWolf]: waiting on kael to get me an svnadmin dump of the opensvn repo |
| 09:59.26 | [MoonWolf] | kk |
| 10:00.17 | Tekkub | moon: got the names for D1/D2/tier1 sets in, now I get to find the items >< |
| 10:00.31 | [MoonWolf] | hehe |
| 10:00.44 | Tekkub | I think I'll make sets by equip slot as well, those will prolly be useful to the DKP mod |
| 10:02.20 | ckknight | Tekkub, I'm including Boss names in BabbleLib, that would probably be useful to your BigWigs |
| 10:02.45 | Tekkub | and mendy! |
| 10:02.57 | Tekkub | actually, you can steal mendy's localizations |
| 10:03.00 | [MoonWolf] | coolio |
| 10:03.04 | Tekkub | it's got a ton of bosses |
| 10:03.05 | [MoonWolf] | he already did. |
| 10:03.08 | Tekkub | ah |
| 10:03.15 | Tekkub | convert mendy then! :) |
| 10:03.18 | ckknight | I did. |
| 10:03.27 | [MoonWolf] | not today |
| 10:03.29 | ckknight | I stole Mendeleev's Bosses |
| 10:03.33 | ckknight | like 3 were wrong |
| 10:03.40 | ckknight | small misspellings |
| 10:03.52 | ckknight | but I got enUS, deDE, frFR, and zhCN |
| 10:03.53 | Tekkub | :) |
| 10:04.11 | Tekkub | I'll look into babble after I get sets into PT then |
| 10:04.16 | ckknight | okay |
| 10:04.50 | Tekkub | then I'll get the trash mob drops seperated and regroup bosses into wings |
| 10:04.58 | Tekkub | where applicable |
| 10:05.52 | [MoonWolf] | I think we can safely say that 0.7 will have more localisation. |
| 10:06.19 | HoJ|Slayman | MoonWolf: no more errors so far, great work. |
| 10:07.11 | Tekkub | Moon: I was thinking.... |
| 10:07.25 | [MoonWolf] | go on. |
| 10:07.27 | Tekkub | you should add info for the librams on what enchant each gives |
| 10:07.43 | [MoonWolf] | is there a libram set ? |
| 10:07.47 | Tekkub | and, if applicable, which ZG enchant it's used in |
| 10:07.59 | Tekkub | no there's no set, each one is diff |
| 10:08.21 | Tekkub | I can make sets for the world-dropped and DM ones, if you want |
| 10:08.32 | [MoonWolf] | yes |
| 10:08.35 | Tekkub | I mean, the WD ones are going in the WD table anyway |
| 10:08.52 | Tekkub | I'll add those right now since it's a small set |
| 10:10.58 | FryGuy | tekkub: you made bigwigs right? |
| 10:11.06 | Tekkub | yes |
| 10:11.26 | FryGuy | cool :) |
| 10:11.41 | FryGuy | I have an idea for one of the bossmods |
| 10:11.49 | FryGuy | should I try to do it myself and send you the diff? |
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| 10:12.08 | Tekkub | write it and SVN it |
| 10:12.16 | FryGuy | don't have svn access |
| 10:12.21 | [MoonWolf] | looks like curse doesnt WANT to be updated. |
| 10:12.27 | Tekkub | I'd set you up but I can't connect |
| 10:12.35 | Tekkub | fuck cursed |
| 10:12.55 | Tekkub | anyway, I don't know what the state of the SVN is in the end Fry |
| 10:12.57 | FryGuy | my guild isn't going to kill vael for a while, so can't really test it :( |
| 10:13.05 | Tekkub | I think I might just wait for the wowace one to go live |
| 10:13.20 | Tekkub | we're on Vael, he's fuckin us up |
| 10:13.29 | Tekkub | but he's so sorry when he kills us |
| 10:13.36 | FryGuy | hehe |
| 10:13.48 | Tekkub | I'm sorry.... friend... your death only blah blah blibbity blah |
| 10:13.49 | FryGuy | vael is like 1-shot, or bash your head in |
| 10:13.56 | Tekkub | I've heard that soooo many times |
| 10:14.14 | FryGuy | and on top of that, my guild lost like 10 people |
| 10:14.22 | FryGuy | so don't know if we actually can do it anymore :/ |
| 10:14.42 | [MoonWolf] | what is the story behind vael anyway ? |
| 10:14.50 | FryGuy | he's a good dragon |
| 10:15.01 | FryGuy | he's the guy that helps you kill rend |
| 10:15.27 | Tekkub | and he's the questgiver for the UBRS key |
| 10:15.41 | Tekkub | he's in disguise down in LUBERS |
| 10:15.46 | [MoonWolf] | aha |
| 10:15.53 | FryGuy | when you get to him in bwl, you see nef & 6 goblins "working on him" and nef says some blabbering stuff and turns him against you |
| 10:15.55 | [MoonWolf] | i never had a char above lvl 50 |
| 10:15.58 | FryGuy | and he tries to fight it |
| 10:16.06 | FryGuy | so that's why he gives you the uber buff :p |
| 10:16.20 | Tekkub | but like, Nef fucked with his head or something, presumably after he made his presance known after the Rend fight |
| 10:16.42 | FryGuy | nef captured him and melted his head with mind flay and then tried to mind control him |
| 10:16.49 | Tekkub | kek |
| 10:16.54 | FryGuy | nef IS a shadow priest after all :) |
| 10:17.08 | FryGuy | although he has shadow bolts |
| 10:17.15 | FryGuy | maybe priests had those in beta |
| 10:17.21 | FryGuy | and blizz forgot to take them off nef :p |
| 10:17.24 | Tekkub | like that one quest in sillythis with the dwarf down south... |
| 10:17.32 | [MoonWolf] | nef is a black dragon, he has shadow all over him. |
| 10:17.44 | FryGuy | that's the hunter quest demon |
| 10:17.45 | kergoth | foo. |
| 10:17.48 | Tekkub | "The she made this horrible scream in my brain and we ran off in teror |
| 10:18.03 | Tekkub | "and then it felt like she was filleting my mind" |
| 10:18.33 | Tekkub | "and then the monkey jumped on her head and started beating her with a rock" |
| 10:18.43 | Tekkub | I feel sorry for people that don't read quests |
| 10:19.28 | Tekkub | there's some damn funny quests in the game |
| 10:19.38 | [MoonWolf] | Are we there yeti. |
| 10:19.39 | Tekkub | the damn punchcards in gnomer |
| 10:19.44 | Tekkub | yeti kicks ass |
| 10:19.52 | Tekkub | I've not done Linken, I should |
| 10:20.33 | Tekkub | and I guess there's a great questline with all the silithids leading up to silithis/AQ |
| 10:21.04 | Tekkub | the damn hives are all over, Tanaris, Ungoro, ShimFlats, Feralas |
| 10:21.33 | [MoonWolf] | I ha d a good idea for an really cool raid fight. |
| 10:23.17 | [MoonWolf] | featuring a lote of evil bad guys and 40 man raid, an uber bad guy, and a good guy to support the 40 man. |
| 10:23.45 | [MoonWolf] | and the guy basically forces you to keep fighting |
| 10:24.02 | [MoonWolf] | resses and ports you back when you leave. |
| 10:24.03 | [MoonWolf] | or die |
| 10:24.05 | Tekkub | okey moon, added sets, tho you'll still need to go get info for each one |
| 10:24.14 | [MoonWolf] | ty |
| 10:27.28 | FryGuy | woah |
| 10:27.36 | FryGuy | this version of timex.. broken :( |
| 10:37.30 | weab | that sounds retarded moonwolf |
| 10:37.47 | weab | what if you can't kill it :P |
| 10:38.00 | weab | stuck dying to him forever! |
| 10:38.06 | FryGuy | I had several good ideas for boss fights |
| 10:40.16 | FryGuy | er wait |
| 10:40.29 | FryGuy | it's just you actually have to restart wow before it reloads .toc files :/ |
| 10:42.37 | Tekkub | *Sends hubby the AMV movie hoping it'll shut him up for an hour* |
| 10:48.28 | [MoonWolf] | well aditional rules would apply |
| 10:48.32 | [MoonWolf] | but those were the basics |
| 10:48.40 | [MoonWolf] | a huge chatoic fight that you cannot LEAVE! |
| 10:49.08 | kergoth | mmm, trac with support for tags is spiffy. assign tags to wiki pages, then navigate via them |
| 10:51.58 | ckknight | well, I'm partway through having detachable tooltips now |
| 10:52.38 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/projects/homefiles/timeline .. heh, a trac timeline for my dotfiles. bashrc, vimrc, etc. i'm just sick. |
| 10:55.37 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 10:59.20 | Tekkub | erf |
| 12:01.52 | Tekkub | bleh, seperating out the tier sets by slot is tedious |
| 12:02.04 | Tekkub | at least I only have to do 2 sets |
| 12:02.55 | Tekkub | tho I won't rush to do T2 :P |
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| 12:37.54 | Tekkub | yesch? |
| 12:38.04 | [MoonWolf] | you called me a lazy fuck :P |
| 12:38.16 | Tekkub | yea isn't the irony funny? |
| 12:38.46 | [MoonWolf] | irony, i AM lazy. |
| 12:40.02 | [MoonWolf] | item* |
| 12:40.06 | [MoonWolf] | time******* |
| 12:40.31 | [MoonWolf] | I have no idea how the coins and the other shit all work, |
| 12:40.56 | Tekkub | sure you do, it's really easy |
| 12:41.11 | Tekkub | this applies to ZG, AQ20 and AQ40 |
| 12:41.52 | Tekkub | for each item quest you need: 5 green token x, 5 green token y, 2 blue token z and a purple equipment piece |
| 12:42.12 | Tekkub | and a certain rep with a certain faction |
| 12:42.46 | Tekkub | for ZG there is also repeatables, turn in three coins, get rep and an honor token |
| 12:43.14 | [MoonWolf] | what good are the tokens ? |
| 12:43.15 | Tekkub | you can use the token to get extra rep, or save it to buy from rep vendor |
| 12:43.31 | [MoonWolf] | and the enchants ? |
| 12:43.36 | Tekkub | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=19858 |
| 12:43.43 | Tekkub | enchants are a bit diff |
| 12:44.14 | Tekkub | they use a purple equip chunk, a class-specific voodoo doll, and an arcanum |
| 12:44.23 | Tekkub | the arcanums are enchants too |
| 12:44.38 | Tekkub | you get those with a libram, a diamond and some misc reagents |
| 12:44.43 | [MoonWolf] | so you trade an enchant for a more powerfull one ? |
| 12:45.07 | Tekkub | basically, the gem that you use to apply the enchant is an ingred in a better enchant |
| 12:45.33 | [MoonWolf] | and the libram you need for the arcanum come out of ? |
| 12:45.36 | Tekkub | it's basically a second tier to the libram enchant quests |
| 12:45.59 | Tekkub | yea... libram + diamond + reagents == enchant gem |
| 12:46.10 | Tekkub | called arcanum |
| 12:46.30 | Tekkub | arcanum + voodoo doll + equip piece == better enchant |
| 12:47.00 | Tekkub | and to make it even more confusing, the voodoo doll is also useable in a class specific quest |
| 12:47.12 | [MoonWolf] | where do you find the librams ? |
| 12:47.33 | Tekkub | 5 are world drop, 3 are DM (one in each wing) |
| 12:47.41 | [MoonWolf] | okay |
| 12:48.03 | Tekkub | I'm not certain, but I think the ZG enchants all take DM arcanum |
| 12:48.42 | Tekkub | the voodoo doll is used to make your purple trinket from ZG, which is part of your class set |
| 12:49.17 | Tekkub | it's really nice how they did it, they made just a few items and made em all useable for multiple things and by multiple classes |
| 12:49.27 | Tekkub | so loot doesn't rot |
| 12:49.27 | [MoonWolf] | So bascially you need s shitton of everything out of ZG/AQ/AQ40 |
| 12:49.42 | Tekkub | kinda :) |
| 12:50.14 | Tekkub | it's very consistant tho, all the rep turnins for gear are 5 green x, 5 green y, 2 blue, 1 purple |
| 12:50.24 | Tekkub | greens drop from trash, purples from bosses |
| 12:50.49 | [MoonWolf] | one more question, if the filter option in a category returns something it is not show ? |
| 12:51.16 | Tekkub | in ZG the 5 main subbosses will drop a purple token and a normal BoP equip-type item |
| 12:51.24 | Tekkub | uh.... |
| 12:51.30 | Tekkub | I don't remember |
| 12:51.43 | Tekkub | I think it's a show only items in filter set |
| 12:51.44 | [MoonWolf] | local filter = v.filter and not PeriodicTable:ItemInSet(link, v.filter) |
| 12:51.44 | [MoonWolf] | if z and not filter then |
| 12:52.12 | [MoonWolf] | im not sure how the not part of the first line affects the return of v.filter. |
| 12:52.33 | Tekkub | so if you use zulgurubcoin as the filter it'll only show for coins |
| 12:52.34 | Tekkub | one sec.... |
| 12:52.52 | Tekkub | local filter = v.filter and not PeriodicTable:ItemInSet(link, v.filter) |
| 12:53.18 | Tekkub | if filter is defined and item is not in filter set, don't display |
| 12:53.49 | Tekkub | so if no filter defined or it IS in the filter set, it'll display |
| 12:54.01 | [MoonWolf] | okay |
| 12:55.00 | Tekkub | I'm gonna tweak ItemInSet to cal itsself recursivly |
| 12:55.29 | Tekkub | so if it's a multiset of mulitsets of multisets of.... it'll work it's way down to the basc atomic set |
| 12:55.36 | [MoonWolf] | cool |
| 12:55.43 | [MoonWolf] | morning Cairenn |
| 12:55.48 | Cairenn | morning |
| 13:08.48 | ckknight | woot |
| 13:09.02 | ckknight | I have sticky tooltips now |
| 13:19.39 | Kaelten | ello |
| 13:21.00 | ckknight | hey Kaelten |
| 13:22.13 | Kaelten | hey ck |
| 13:29.42 | [MoonWolf] | eeeuh |
| 13:29.45 | [MoonWolf] | okay |
| 13:31.39 | Wobin_ | what do they stick to, ckknight? |
| 13:31.51 | ckknight | they stick to where you place them |
| 13:32.05 | ckknight | an offset determined by the nearest corner |
| 13:33.25 | Wobin_ | Meh, DurabilityFu and ItemStatsFu keep breaking on me =\ |
| 13:33.31 | Wobin_ | They end up not showing anything |
| 13:33.37 | ckknight | damn |
| 13:33.45 | ckknight | why did Blizzard fuck with the goddamn tooltips? |
| 13:33.46 | Wobin_ | Even though the popup at the repairs shows the right numbers |
| 13:33.58 | otravi | just anchor it everytime you want to check it |
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| 14:19.27 | clad|sleep | Morning all |
| 14:19.40 | [MoonWolf] | morning |
| 14:19.41 | Wobin_ | morning clad |
| 14:20.10 | haste | hello |
| 14:20.39 | Cairenn | morning clad|sleep |
| 14:21.47 | cladhaire | How are you today Cair? |
| 14:22.50 | Cairenn | pretty good, yourself? |
| 14:26.47 | cladhaire | tired, but more relaxed than this past week.. thats for sure =) |
| 14:26.53 | Cairenn | good |
| 14:27.00 | Cairenn | rough week, was it? |
| 14:27.23 | cladhaire | very miuch so |
| 14:27.32 | cladhaire | i came home and coded to relax.. if that gives you any idea |
| 14:27.39 | Cairenn | yeah ... |
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| 14:34.21 | haste | heh.. I want to test something, and the they suddenly out of nowhere form 2xZG groups while I relog :< |
| 14:35.11 | ckknight | Cairenn, uploaded some stuff |
| 14:35.58 | Cairenn | k |
| 14:36.49 | ckknight | people keep requesting features, thus preventing me from releasing 1.0 |
| 14:36.51 | ckknight | le sigh |
| 14:37.09 | otravi | ~comfort ckknight |
| 14:37.11 | purl | There, there, ckknight. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 14:37.21 | ckknight | lol |
| 14:37.29 | ckknight | the detach tooltip will be pretty handy, though |
| 14:37.33 | ckknight | it'll let me replace UberQuest |
| 14:38.33 | cladhaire | WHat are you doing with detact tooltip? |
| 14:38.42 | cladhaire | s/ch/tc/ |
| 14:38.52 | ckknight | you can use it like a scoreboard |
| 14:38.55 | ckknight | or a tracker |
| 14:39.03 | ckknight | BattlegroundFu will use it |
| 14:39.06 | ckknight | and likely QuestFu |
| 14:39.18 | ckknight | it's basically a way to have the tooltip constantly visible |
| 14:40.07 | cladhaire | Oh cool |
| 14:40.17 | cladhaire | using a seperate tooltip, or a single one? |
| 14:40.23 | ckknight | separate one |
| 14:40.42 | ckknight | so you can still view other tooltips without it going away |
| 14:40.46 | ckknight | and have multiple ones detached |
| 14:40.51 | cladhaire | nice |
| 14:40.57 | cladhaire | creating them dynamically? |
| 14:41.06 | ckknight | I have been since 1.10 released |
| 14:41.21 | cladhaire | you have to create all the fontstrings manually i assume? |
| 14:41.23 | ckknight | it also stores em in a pool, so that's nice for resources |
| 14:41.38 | ckknight | cladhaire, it's not a normal tooltip |
| 14:41.42 | ckknight | it's my own implementation |
| 14:41.49 | ckknight | with a "fuller" API |
| 14:41.50 | cladhaire | very cool |
| 14:42.00 | ckknight | so it's not GameTooltip, it's a Frame |
| 14:42.11 | ckknight | it sorta looks and feels like a GameTooltip, though |
| 14:42.32 | ckknight | only there are categories, you can click on lines, give em checkboxes |
| 14:42.33 | ckknight | whatnot |
| 14:43.10 | [MoonWolf] | part tooltip part configuration thingy ? |
| 14:43.26 | ckknight | no, typically you'd configure with the dropdown menu |
| 14:43.46 | ckknight | but like for the quest thing, if you click on an item, it'll pop up the quest log to that specific quest |
| 14:43.58 | ckknight | or if you shift-click on it, it'll click the check box and add it to the game tracker |
| 14:44.50 | ckknight | I think BattlegroundFu uses it to switch display between different information on the different bgs |
| 14:46.56 | [MoonWolf] | when are we getting the fubar version and plugin versions that use this ? |
| 14:47.17 | ckknight | I just uploaded |
| 14:47.37 | ckknight | hyperactiveZzzzz will set his to detach when he wakes up |
| 14:47.58 | ckknight | but you can do it manually by adding a canDetachTooltip = true near the top |
| 14:50.31 | ckknight | if I don't get another API change by Tuesday, I'm releasing 1.0 |
| 14:52.58 | [MoonWolf] | cool |
| 14:53.03 | [MoonWolf] | I look forward to it. |
| 14:53.33 | ckknight | really, all it does is promise an API freeze so that developers can target the version without fear of it changing |
| 14:53.43 | ckknight | but it'll be the first official non-beta as well |
| 14:53.48 | [MoonWolf] | ah |
| 14:54.05 | [MoonWolf] | there wont be a 1.0 RC ? |
| 14:54.20 | ckknight | I don't see a point |
| 14:54.27 | ckknight | not for this |
| 14:54.32 | [MoonWolf] | okay |
| 14:54.35 | ckknight | cause the 0.9 cycle has been on for a while |
| 14:55.34 | ckknight | I know what I should do |
| 14:55.39 | ckknight | put Compost into FuBar |
| 14:55.49 | [MoonWolf] | compost == pure love |
| 15:01.41 | Tem | ckknight: you're still awake? |
| 15:03.54 | [MoonWolf] | i talked to him 6 minutes ago |
| 15:04.01 | [MoonWolf] | so i think he should be. |
| 15:04.24 | ckknight | I'm here |
| 15:08.15 | Cairenn | ckknight: just tossed in the new fubar and did a reload ... "Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBarTooltip.lua:220: attempt to index global 'hint' (a nil value) |
| 15:09.11 | ckknight | dammit. |
| 15:09.17 | Cairenn | any time I mouse over any plugin |
| 15:09.19 | Tem | ckknight: did you do the sticky tooltip thing? |
| 15:09.29 | ckknight | yea |
| 15:09.32 | Tem | badass |
| 15:09.35 | ckknight | Cairenn, easy fix |
| 15:09.44 | Cairenn | good |
| 15:09.45 | Tem|afk | I'm looking forward to playing with that |
| 15:10.00 | ckknight | okay, I'm gonna load all my addons and test with it |
| 15:10.02 | Cairenn | fix, upload and I'll reapprove and check it again for you |
| 15:10.09 | ckknight | 5 minutes |
| 15:10.14 | Cairenn | np |
| 15:11.03 | ckknight | yea, cause I changed it from a singleton to a AO class, it caused that issue |
| 15:13.28 | ckknight | okay, got all of em |
| 15:15.18 | ckknight | alright, Cairenn |
| 15:15.37 | Cairenn | approved |
| 15:16.18 | ckknight | now I'm gonna compost it all up |
| 15:16.21 | Cairenn | gone |
| 15:16.30 | ckknight | hopefully in a feeble attempt to make it less memory intensive |
| 15:57.30 | Tekkub | so can anyone else connect to the SVN? |
| 15:57.38 | cladhaire | which svn? |
| 15:57.47 | Tekkub | _THE_ one |
| 15:57.49 | Tekkub | trac |
| 15:57.56 | Tekkub | not wowace... is wowace one up? |
| 15:58.11 | otravi | if you change it in the hosts file it's up :) |
| 15:58.23 | Tekkub | screw hosts, worked for me |
| 15:58.31 | cladhaire | i'm confused |
| 15:58.35 | cladhaire | you're trying to get to opensvn? |
| 15:58.35 | Tekkub | gonna import the trac one or no? |
| 15:58.41 | Tekkub | yes clad |
| 15:58.57 | Tekkub | http://svn.wowace.com/ appears to be all DNS'd up for me :) |
| 15:59.08 | Tekkub | now I need my own folder |
| 15:59.16 | Tekkub | GIMME GIMME! |
| 15:59.26 | cladhaire | I can get to opensvn |
| 15:59.41 | cladhaire | What do you want the repo name to be.. and you rlogin> |
| 15:59.49 | Tekkub | okey well I can't but I'd rather use the "official" one if it's okey |
| 15:59.58 | Tekkub | just Tekkub |
| 16:00.46 | otravi | I would also like access *jumps* |
| 16:01.25 | cladhaire | Creating it now.. it'll be a few minutes before its done |
| 16:01.37 | Tekkub | FASTER! |
| 16:01.37 | Tekkub | *growl* |
| 16:01.41 | Tekkub | *rawr* |
| 16:01.44 | ag` | Is it possible to get the height of the user resolution? |
| 16:01.46 | Tekkub | *mew* |
| 16:02.07 | Tekkub | like GetScreenHeight()? (I think) |
| 16:02.31 | ag` | that works? |
| 16:02.33 | weab | /script print(GetScreenHeight()) |
| 16:02.43 | weab | gives me 997.40256999474! |
| 16:03.49 | cladhaire | ./dump WorldFrame:GetTop()*WorldFrame:GetEffectiveScale() |
| 16:20.02 | hyperChipmunk | ~emulate emeril |
| 16:20.04 | purl | BAM! |
| 16:20.07 | hyperChipmunk | ~emeril |
| 16:20.09 | purl | ACTION kicks it up a notch. |
| 16:21.18 | Tekkub | oh that's pathetic |
| 16:21.26 | Tekkub | everyone knows it's "Baym!" |
| 16:21.27 | hyperChipmunk | D |
| 16:21.30 | hyperChipmunk | =D |
| 16:21.31 | Tekkub | retarded bot |
| 16:22.16 | cladhaire | WOULD YOU COMMIT ALREADY? |
| 16:22.27 | Tekkub | NEVAR! |
| 16:22.33 | Tekkub | I COMMIT TO NOTHING! |
| 16:22.40 | hyperChipmunk | oh oh svn.wowace.com working =D |
| 16:23.00 | cladhaire | is it working hyperChipmunk? |
| 16:23.06 | hyperChipmunk | wfm |
| 16:23.10 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 16:23.29 | hyperChipmunk | i don't see a hyperactiveChipmunk repo though, which is clearly an error |
| 16:24.19 | cladhaire | Did you ask for one? |
| 16:24.26 | cladhaire | otravi: Did you want a repo? |
| 16:25.12 | Tekkub | hrm... od I just commit to http://svn.wowace.com/Tekkub/trunk/PeriodicTable Clad? |
| 16:25.13 | hyperChipmunk | I think I just did =) |
| 16:25.24 | Tekkub | cause 405 Method Not Allowed |
| 16:25.28 | otravi | cladhaire: Yes |
| 16:25.34 | cladhaire | Tekkub: lemme look |
| 16:25.50 | cladhaire | I need you twoe to email me.. cladhaire@gmail.com with desired Repo name and login |
| 16:25.52 | cladhaire | so i have a track |
| 16:26.02 | Tekkub | also http://svn.wowace.com/listing.php?repname=Tekkub&path=%2F&sc=0 looks vaguly uninitialized |
| 16:26.19 | cladhaire | Tekkub: You dont have any directories yet.. you have to make them |
| 16:26.32 | Tekkub | okey... *digs in tort for options* |
| 16:26.40 | cladhaire | just right click in the rpepo |
| 16:26.41 | cladhaire | create directory |
| 16:27.10 | Tekkub | "error blah blah 200 OK" |
| 16:27.42 | cladhaire | bah you bastard |
| 16:27.55 | Tekkub | I didn't do it! |
| 16:29.42 | cladhaire | recreating now |
| 16:29.44 | cladhaire | but you broke it. |
| 16:29.50 | cladhaire | jerkheadface |
| 16:29.53 | Tekkub | I didn't do eet! |
| 16:29.55 | cladhaire | you'll have to re-sync your passwords |
| 16:29.59 | cladhaire | when i tell you |
| 16:30.05 | hyperChipmunk | cladhaire: done |
| 16:30.07 | Tekkub | I give you big head! |
| 16:35.40 | *** join/#wowace id`` (i=id@tor/session/x-eef923552f3830f8) |
| 16:51.45 | *** join/#wowace [MoonWolf] (i=moonwolf@f176182.upc-f.chello.nl) |
| 16:51.45 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [MoonWolf]] by ChanServ |
| 16:52.04 | hyperChipmunk | aloo |
| 16:52.42 | cladhaire | [MoonWolf]: Are you the XRaid guy? |
| 16:52.50 | cladhaire | I mean i think you are.. but i'm too lazy to lookm |
| 16:52.57 | otravi | cladhaire: that's MoonSorrow |
| 16:52.58 | hyperChipmunk | =\ |
| 16:53.09 | hyperChipmunk | I think he's mocking me |
| 16:53.51 | cladhaire | damn |
| 16:53.54 | cladhaire | moonsomething =) |
| 16:54.03 | hyperChipmunk | oh, or not |
| 16:54.08 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I did the same thing two days ago |
| 16:54.28 | hyperChipmunk | i looked and saw Moonsomething, and I was like "yea I remember that guy" |
| 16:55.16 | hyperChipmunk | then I spent like 3 days trying to get ahold of him cuz his timezone is at right angles to mine |
| 16:55.26 | cladhaire | haha |
| 16:55.26 | hyperChipmunk | only to find out it was the wrong guy =() |
| 16:55.36 | cladhaire | well i need him to fix xraid |
| 16:55.52 | hyperChipmunk | whazwrongwidit? |
| 16:56.00 | otravi | you can't click the frames for example |
| 16:56.00 | [MoonWolf] | i am not the xraid guy |
| 16:56.14 | [MoonWolf] | thats the second time someone asked me that. |
| 16:56.15 | otravi | Buff icons are bugged |
| 16:56.28 | otravi | [MoonWolf]: It's a sign! |
| 16:56.42 | hyperChipmunk | I think you ought to take it up |
| 16:56.58 | [MoonWolf] | I hate xml, why would i craete a damn raid interface. |
| 16:57.00 | hyperChipmunk | the other moonthingyguy doesn't come here |
| 16:57.04 | cladhaire | Well, XRaid has the nastiest interface for click-casting that ive ever seen |
| 16:57.09 | hyperChipmunk | so you can create it with lua |
| 16:57.29 | [MoonWolf] | I also have mendeleev to do, and EM |
| 16:57.46 | hyperChipmunk | cladhaire sez: "How come my game isn't playing itself. I want CTRA!" |
| 16:58.26 | hyperChipmunk | actually, cladhaire, he's pretty responsive on his Ace MB thread |
| 16:58.35 | cladhaire | yeah i know |
| 16:58.38 | cladhaire | i just have to get aroudn to it |
| 16:59.11 | hyperChipmunk | yea, the laziness barrier is pretty high, I agree |
| 16:59.16 | [MoonWolf] | CTRA the one bad thing to come out of the CT group, and for some reason, the most used thing to come out of CT |
| 16:59.28 | hyperChipmunk | yea no joke |
| 16:59.36 | hyperChipmunk | I like their mail addon |
| 16:59.37 | otravi | [MoonWolf]: It is the only tool that is a all-in-one solution for lazy raiders =\ |
| 16:59.41 | otravi | or.. it was *grin* |
| 16:59.52 | hyperChipmunk | they should advertise it like that |
| 17:00.04 | hyperChipmunk | liek the staples Easy Button |
| 17:00.10 | cladhaire | I need to finish PerfectRaid |
| 17:00.12 | [MoonWolf] | they dont need advertisement |
| 17:00.17 | otravi | cladhaire: Indeed! |
| 17:00.20 | hyperChipmunk | Push Here for lewtz ------> (o) |
| 17:00.25 | [MoonWolf] | if they were to say, HEY CTRA IS CRAP, WE SAY SO OURSELVES. |
| 17:00.29 | otravi | cladhaire: I want to get rid of XRaid as fast as possible :D |
| 17:00.31 | [MoonWolf] | it would stop people from using it. |
| 17:00.58 | weab | doubtful |
| 17:01.03 | weab | highly doubtful |
| 17:01.05 | otravi | I think that the reason people use CTRA is: It was the first raid tool ever, it has "fast" updates, or at elast had |
| 17:01.19 | Tekkub | hey moonie.... |
| 17:01.40 | [MoonWolf] | yeah ? |
| 17:01.46 | hyperChipmunk | are you the xraid guy? |
| 17:01.57 | [MoonWolf] | NO! |
| 17:02.02 | Tekkub | you should add functionality to mendy to add notes to specific items :) |
| 17:02.03 | hyperChipmunk | oh ok |
| 17:02.16 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, eeeeuh, BLOAT |
| 17:02.22 | Tekkub | I was just thinking, the libram notes might be useful elsewhere |
| 17:02.32 | Tekkub | okey... true |
| 17:02.36 | otravi | on enchants for example :p |
| 17:02.46 | Tekkub | I'll make a seperate mod based off mendy's core |
| 17:02.46 | hyperChipmunk | ugh, agree [MoonWolf] |
| 17:02.54 | Tekkub | enchants aren't items... |
| 17:03.21 | Tekkub | so I need a name for this quickie hackport of mendy... |
| 17:03.56 | [MoonWolf] | AtomicWeightninty |
| 17:04.05 | Wobin_ | Mass =P |
| 17:04.13 | Tekkub | WhatDat? |
| 17:04.14 | Wobin_ | nono... |
| 17:04.19 | Wobin_ | Compounds |
| 17:04.24 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 17:04.28 | Wobin_ | Or something like that |
| 17:04.55 | Tekkub | Engravings |
| 17:05.12 | Tekkub | "Add that personal touch to your tooltips" |
| 17:05.16 | hyperChipmunk | =D |
| 17:05.27 | hyperChipmunk | that's great |
| 17:05.45 | Tekkub | PostItNotes |
| 17:05.47 | Tekkub | nah |
| 17:05.52 | hyperChipmunk | go with Engravings |
| 17:06.00 | Tekkub | Engravings it is |
| 17:06.11 | Tekkub | I'll even make it so you can add ingame |
| 17:06.15 | [MoonWolf] | Maybe i should create a stripped down version of mendeleev on the svn , call it , ItemTooltipAddonBase. |
| 17:06.24 | [MoonWolf] | or something like that. |
| 17:06.29 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.36 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 17:06.40 | Wobin_ | Damnit. I seem to have a mental thing where I confuse hyperChipmunk and wereHamster |
| 17:06.43 | Tekkub | Engravings it is |
| 17:06.44 | hyperChipmunk | ! |
| 17:06.56 | Tekkub | what a kickass idea :) |
| 17:06.58 | [MoonWolf] | chipmunk and hamsters dont look alike. |
| 17:07.01 | Wobin_ | I'd use that, Moony |
| 17:07.05 | Tekkub | I always have the best mod ideas ^^ |
| 17:07.11 | Wobin_ | (in fact I already am =P) |
| 17:07.20 | Tekkub | I have too many, my brain can't hold em all |
| 17:07.20 | hyperChipmunk | /engrave [Grand Marshal's Stave] don't forget to unequip after Volley |
| 17:07.21 | [MoonWolf] | what, you are ? |
| 17:07.30 | Tekkub | I should emty them out sometime |
| 17:07.39 | [MoonWolf] | write it down.... |
| 17:07.53 | Wobin_ | using some of your tooltip code |
| 17:08.06 | [MoonWolf] | ah |
| 17:08.10 | [MoonWolf] | yeah you told me before |
| 17:08.11 | Tekkub | Good Idea: A mod that will automatically buy items you set when at a vendor that sells them |
| 17:08.17 | [MoonWolf] | i should redo the hooks in mendeleev some day. |
| 17:08.24 | hyperChipmunk | I just want vendor prices on my tooltips |
| 17:08.29 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, rowne created something like that. |
| 17:08.30 | hyperChipmunk | so I know which quest reward to pick |
| 17:08.32 | Tekkub | Bad Idea: A mod that rondomly unequips all your equipment when the main tank pulls something |
| 17:09.21 | hyperChipmunk | that depends on your tank |
| 17:09.22 | Tekkub | Good Idea: A mod like CTMailMod but shows your whole bag, you check all the items to send and click go |
| 17:09.38 | Tekkub | Bad Idea: A mod that deletes the items instead of sending them |
| 17:09.50 | [MoonWolf] | function Mendeleev:FindItemID(name) <- did you create this tekkub ? |
| 17:09.56 | [MoonWolf] | if so where is it USED ? |
| 17:10.07 | Tekkub | chip: KCI will do that for a good majority of the quest rewards |
| 17:10.22 | Tekkub | yes moon |
| 17:10.29 | Tekkub | in the mail hook |
| 17:10.36 | Tekkub | mailbox won't return links |
| 17:10.46 | Tekkub | it's a costly function so it caches |
| 17:10.53 | [MoonWolf] | you never said anything about a mailbox hook. |
| 17:10.59 | [MoonWolf] | you can hook the mailbox items now ? |
| 17:11.03 | Tekkub | and it only happens at a mailbox so it shouldn't be a huge performance impact |
| 17:11.22 | Tekkub | mailbox items have had tooltips available for a while... |
| 17:11.38 | Tekkub | MailTip's been out how long? |
| 17:11.56 | Tekkub | MailTip got integrated into the default UI finally this patch :) |
| 17:12.13 | Tekkub | so I hooked that lince everyone's got mail tooltips now |
| 17:12.19 | Tekkub | *since |
| 17:12.28 | [MoonWolf] | okay |
| 17:12.53 | Tekkub | I don't think there's any item tips mendy doesn't hook now... |
| 17:13.02 | Tekkub | if there is I'll fix that when I notice it |
| 17:13.48 | Tekkub | speaking of, do I have commit access to Moonie's repo? |
| 17:13.54 | cladhaire | no |
| 17:13.56 | cladhaire | but i can grant it. |
| 17:14.13 | Tekkub | you probably should, I've done more to mendy than he has lately |
| 17:14.20 | Tekkub | hell he didn't even know I had |
| 17:14.29 | cladhaire | I can grant you perms to a specific directory |
| 17:14.51 | Tekkub | \.. |
| 17:15.00 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, can have access to mine if i can have access to his :P |
| 17:15.18 | Tekkub | you do crap to PT, I see no reason not to |
| 17:15.30 | Tekkub | give him trunk pweaze |
| 17:16.31 | cladhaire | Moon.. re-sync your password |
| 17:16.44 | cladhaire | and see if you have commit access to tekkub's trunk (Try to create a dir) |
| 17:17.02 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com/passwd.php |
| 17:17.05 | Tekkub | BTW, new PT on my repo |
| 17:17.07 | [MoonWolf] | done |
| 17:17.23 | Tekkub | partial on the tier sets, added the ZG stuff and librams |
| 17:17.26 | cladhaire | Try to creat a dir on his trunk |
| 17:17.32 | Tekkub | tho you won't need the librams now |
| 17:17.45 | Tekkub | since I'll be making Engravings shortly |
| 17:18.25 | [MoonWolf] | weeeuh |
| 17:18.42 | [MoonWolf] | i dont have any form of access to his trunk either with your orginal password or my new one. |
| 17:18.52 | cladhaire | even read access? |
| 17:19.08 | [MoonWolf] | cannot check his repo out. |
| 17:19.43 | Tekkub | moon.. what mendy is up on your repo? |
| 17:19.48 | [MoonWolf] | an old one |
| 17:19.51 | [MoonWolf] | let me update that |
| 17:19.54 | Tekkub | it doesn't have my stupp with the inbox in it... |
| 17:19.58 | Tekkub | okey thanks |
| 17:20.22 | Tekkub | yea it's gon the old Compost in it |
| 17:20.36 | cladhaire | gimme a sec to get this stuff worked out guys |
| 17:20.39 | Tekkub | old Compost bad! wait no compost is like wine, gets better with age... |
| 17:21.10 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 17:22.24 | cladhaire | Tekkub: Did i just break your repo for you even? |
| 17:22.36 | Tekkub | I dunno |
| 17:22.39 | Tekkub | one sec |
| 17:23.02 | Tekkub | yup, can't update |
| 17:23.12 | Tekkub | you lose! |
| 17:23.13 | [MoonWolf] | there 0.6.5b is up on my repo, work from that if you change anything. |
| 17:23.18 | cladhaire | you may have to recreate. |
| 17:23.21 | cladhaire | i have to see if i can fix this. |
| 17:26.45 | Tekkub | lol... that wasn't good |
| 17:27.01 | otravi | Tekkub: btw, I included metrognome in my unit frames :D |
| 17:27.13 | Wobin_ | bah. PRT keeps bugging on me |
| 17:27.25 | Tekkub | I did an update from Mendy... it erased everything but the files that had changed from the old version you had up |
| 17:27.34 | Tekkub | you like it otter? |
| 17:27.37 | Tekkub | no problems? |
| 17:27.46 | otravi | me likes |
| 17:27.48 | Tekkub | buggin how wob? |
| 17:29.03 | [MoonWolf] | try again tekk |
| 17:31.24 | Wobin_ | attempt to call global 'GetHPSeverity' |
| 17:32.45 | cladhaire | Tekkub/Moon.. run the password script please. |
| 17:32.48 | cladhaire | and you should both be okay. |
| 17:32.49 | cladhaire | BUT |
| 17:32.55 | cladhaire | Moon has access to your entire repo. |
| 17:34.03 | cladhaire | You will need to use the password script anytime i make permissions changes to the repos |
| 17:34.08 | cladhaire | since i dont know what yall's password is. |
| 17:34.47 | Tekkub | Error: REPORT failed on '/Tekkub/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 17:34.53 | Tekkub | o.O |
| 17:34.56 | cladhaire | ?O.o |
| 17:35.00 | Tekkub | just on update |
| 17:35.01 | [MoonWolf] | It checked out fine for me. |
| 17:35.02 | otravi | ~oO |
| 17:35.03 | purl | methinks oo is normally "object oriented", but lately it's come to mean "Open Office" too |
| 17:35.07 | cladhaire | you already ran the script? |
| 17:35.20 | Tekkub | yea one sec I'll erase and checkout |
| 17:35.37 | [MoonWolf] | update was good too. |
| 17:35.44 | Tekkub | it might be cause I moved it |
| 17:36.06 | Tekkub | yea musta been |
| 17:36.13 | Tekkub | works now |
| 17:36.38 | [MoonWolf] | I can change things fine too. |
| 17:39.50 | Tekkub | Okey, looks like I got the latest Mendy now :) |
| 17:40.33 | [MoonWolf] | good |
| 17:40.34 | [MoonWolf] | work from that |
| 17:40.47 | [MoonWolf] | i had a few problems with mixing old and newer versions lately |
| 17:41.16 | [MoonWolf] | So i made sure to nuke and pave every place i had mendy laying around. |
| 17:41.21 | Tekkub | yea, if we use the SVN as intended we should stay in sync :) |
| 17:41.41 | cladhaire | Tekkub |
| 17:41.46 | Tekkub | NEVAR! |
| 17:41.52 | cladhaire | try to commit to http://svn.wowace.com/Test/trunk |
| 17:41.57 | cladhaire | I think i found the issue |
| 17:42.56 | Tekkub | asking for pass |
| 17:43.35 | cladhaire | oh |
| 17:43.37 | cladhaire | sync your password |
| 17:43.39 | cladhaire | then use yours |
| 17:43.58 | cladhaire | i'll look to write something that syncs the passwords fo rme. |
| 17:44.00 | cladhaire | i just have to get to it. |
| 17:45.14 | Tekkub | yea that worked |
| 17:45.20 | cladhaire | Here's somethign good to know.. when editing a file in emacs.. it moves the old file, and saves a new file.. at least in this environment.. which breaks everything |
| 17:45.20 | cladhaire | k |
| 17:45.26 | cladhaire | i'll get you and moony set up on each others |
| 17:45.28 | cladhaire | what paths: |
| 17:45.39 | cladhaire | Tekkub/trunk/PeriodicTable for you? |
| 17:45.45 | Tekkub | *shrug* he can have full access for all I care |
| 17:45.52 | cladhaire | well u tell me |
| 17:46.06 | otravi | cladhaire: mail sent :) |
| 17:46.07 | Tekkub | give him full access |
| 17:46.14 | cladhaire | otravi: Thanks. |
| 17:46.19 | cladhaire | Tekkub: He has it now.. so good =) |
| 17:46.35 | otravi | and if you want to know about other access to the repo - I don't mind others changing the code. |
| 17:46.46 | cladhaire | otravi: Well no one has access unless you ask =) |
| 17:47.22 | Tekkub | hey clad, how bout you make a forum thread for everyone to request users/repos and access changes |
| 17:47.47 | Tekkub | the "catch em on IRC" thing don't work all that well |
| 17:48.01 | cladhaire | they can email me. |
| 17:48.15 | Tekkub | then put that in a thread |
| 17:48.29 | Tekkub | put it on the forum damnit :) |
| 17:48.55 | otravi | cladhaire: then I have to bother you everytime :( |
| 17:49.02 | otravi | well, no problem |
| 17:49.22 | otravi | and I agree with Tekkub, get it on the forum |
| 17:49.44 | otravi | (since Tekkub always write: it's on the SVN only and no one knows what the hell the SVN is) |
| 17:49.55 | Tekkub | and link the password change in your post since it appears we'll need that a bunch! |
| 17:50.24 | Tekkub | I'm gonn amake a big fucking link in my sig "wut is the svn???" |
| 17:50.36 | Tekkub | and write up a wiki page on how to use it and tort |
| 17:50.44 | otravi | cladhaire: btw, check I mailed you.. think the proxy died here :< |
| 17:51.16 | Tekkub | actually, I'll do that right now |
| 17:51.36 | otravi | Tekkub: I'll copy it as soon as I get the proxy running again :p |
| 17:51.47 | *** join/#wowace Djanee (n=his247@c-67-184-86-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 17:51.58 | Tekkub | :) |
| 17:54.30 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, that saves me trouble doing that. |
| 17:55.12 | Tekkub | :P |
| 17:58.21 | cladhaire | Tekkub and Moon, you each should have access to each others repos. |
| 17:58.33 | [MoonWolf] | Good. |
| 17:58.34 | Tekkub | okey |
| 17:58.41 | Tekkub | fangs |
| 17:58.43 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 17:59.07 | [MoonWolf] | ~ponder |
| 17:59.09 | purl | I think so, [moonwolf], but where are we going to find a duck and a hose at this hour? |
| 17:59.17 | *** join/#wowace Firedancer (n=Miranda@cpe-24-58-108-74.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 17:59.35 | [MoonWolf] | hey Firedancer , you found the new channel. |
| 18:00.08 | Firedancer | yeah noticed it last week. :) |
| 18:00.19 | cladhaire | isn't MrPlow supposed to do banks now too? |
| 18:00.29 | [MoonWolf] | i thin it is. |
| 18:00.32 | [MoonWolf] | think* |
| 18:00.52 | cladhaire | oh yeah |
| 18:00.55 | cladhaire | undocumented option |
| 18:06.50 | [MoonWolf] | I'm building a chat output command form mendeleev, and now i can emote the information mendeleev has added to the tooltip :P |
| 18:08.05 | [MoonWolf] | I love lua, it allows me to have a function local to a function. |
| 18:08.17 | *** join/#wowace haste (n=haste@host-81-191-131-80.bluecom.no) |
| 18:08.54 | [MoonWolf] | what do you people think of this: http://ace.pastebin.com/649866 |
| 18:08.58 | [MoonWolf] | any performance issues with that ? |
| 18:09.35 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 18:09.41 | cladhaire | it gets crfeated everytime you call ChatMSg() |
| 18:09.42 | cladhaire | or whatever |
| 18:09.45 | cladhaire | create it once |
| 18:09.49 | cladhaire | self.chatFunc = |
| 18:09.58 | cladhaire | if not self.chatFunc then define the new one, else use the existing one. |
| 18:10.12 | cladhaire | perhaps index it by channel |
| 18:10.13 | cladhaire | =) |
| 18:10.51 | [MoonWolf] | index it by channel ? |
| 18:12.22 | cladhaire | http://ace.pastebin.com/649878 |
| 18:13.11 | id`` | I'm installing wow, gunna play on an unofficial server :< |
| 18:13.25 | id`` | played AO now for weeks on end |
| 18:13.43 | id`` | so.. taking a lil break :> |
| 18:14.08 | [MoonWolf] | id``, they suck, really believe me, most games have good unofficial servers |
| 18:14.18 | [MoonWolf] | the wow ones are ... different |
| 18:14.55 | id`` | [MoonWolf], at the beginning of wow i was in a team from an unofficial server |
| 18:15.05 | id`` | we were the first ones to use mysql |
| 18:15.13 | [MoonWolf] | cladhaire, doesnt that create a new one everytime a different channel is used ? |
| 18:15.19 | id`` | but then it got halted because of the blizz feds :( |
| 18:15.57 | cladhaire | [MoonWolf]: Yes.. but you need that |
| 18:16.08 | cladhaire | the point is.. you can call that functino over and or and over again with the same channel.. and it only gets created once. |
| 18:17.14 | [MoonWolf] | but the function itself never changes.... why create seperate ones, the function uses the channel arg passed anyway |
| 18:17.45 | cladhaire | Hold on a second. |
| 18:17.52 | [MoonWolf] | sure |
| 18:18.10 | cladhaire | How often do you call Mendeleev:CMDSay(channel) |
| 18:18.13 | cladhaire | ? |
| 18:18.42 | [MoonWolf] | rarely |
| 18:19.01 | [MoonWolf] | its so a user can output what added to the last tooltip to a channel of choice |
| 18:19.11 | [MoonWolf] | like say , tell the raid or party about something. |
| 18:19.14 | cladhaire | Okay, but the problem is every time someone calls it.. it will create a new anonymous function. |
| 18:19.31 | [MoonWolf] | doesnt that get garbaged away next GC ? |
| 18:19.39 | cladhaire | Yes. but why create garbage when its not necessaruy |
| 18:20.00 | cladhaire | If you store the functino.. you can re-use it again |
| 18:20.04 | cladhaire | thats what mine does. |
| 18:20.23 | cladhaire | it does the same thing as yours.. just stores the functions it creates |
| 18:20.34 | [MoonWolf] | okay |
| 18:20.56 | cladhaire | i didn't test it |
| 18:20.58 | cladhaire | but the concept is there =) |
| 18:21.02 | cladhaire | and i can fix it up for you if we need ot. |
| 18:21.04 | cladhaire | to |
| 18:24.29 | [MoonWolf] | hey |
| 18:24.38 | [MoonWolf] | you can emote a working itemlink |
| 18:24.50 | Wobin_ | And now I will never have to see Haleh ever again =P |
| 18:24.51 | Tekkub | kek |
| 18:24.53 | Wobin_ | Thank god =P |
| 18:25.10 | [MoonWolf] | after i fixed the if up and passed the argument it worked fine clad. |
| 18:25.23 | Wobin_ | I spent 15 minutes trying to jump that damn thing |
| 18:25.35 | [MoonWolf] | haleh ? |
| 18:25.45 | Wobin_ | For Onyxia Attunement |
| 18:25.55 | [MoonWolf] | ah |
| 18:25.59 | Wobin_ | She's a blood elf in Winterspring |
| 18:26.14 | Wobin_ | Perched upon an almost unreachable mountaintop |
| 18:26.21 | Wobin_ | Where it's got to be bloody cold |
| 18:27.17 | [MoonWolf] | Inner warmth. |
| 18:27.54 | [MoonWolf] | I think that was a diablo 2 sorceress spell. |
| 18:28.29 | Wobin_ | yeah increased mana regen |
| 18:29.22 | Wobin_ | Yeah, well, you can either get to her by fighting through a tunnel of 60something elites, or by doing a series of tricky mountjumps near her |
| 18:29.25 | [MoonWolf] | like it ever ran out once you got beyond 60 |
| 18:29.27 | Wobin_ | Of course I took option two =P |
| 18:29.32 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 18:29.39 | Tekkub | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/What_in_the_SVN%3F |
| 18:29.41 | Wobin_ | I always spammed that iceball one |
| 18:29.47 | Tekkub | please fix any issue you see |
| 18:29.56 | Wobin_ | Then I always got owned in the egyptian level |
| 18:29.56 | [MoonWolf] | the flying swirling bolt throwing thing ? |
| 18:29.59 | Wobin_ | yeah =) |
| 18:30.06 | Wobin_ | frost nova probably or something |
| 18:30.06 | Tekkub | time to make annoying forum siggie |
| 18:31.21 | [MoonWolf] | frozen orb |
| 18:31.46 | [MoonWolf] | nova's are always shot away from the player |
| 18:32.13 | cladhaire | I need to talk to kaelten about the way dolby did the DNS update |
| 18:32.20 | Wobin_ | I can't remember the novas anymore |
| 18:32.35 | [MoonWolf] | fire nova, frost nova, poisen nova. |
| 18:32.43 | [MoonWolf] | and diablo 1 had lighting nova |
| 18:32.47 | Wobin_ | were they just like fireballs? |
| 18:33.03 | [MoonWolf] | no novas are like the novas in WoW |
| 18:33.10 | Wobin_ | ah |
| 18:33.18 | Wobin_ | but didn't actually immobolise... ? |
| 18:33.23 | Wobin_ | I can't remember =) |
| 18:33.32 | [MoonWolf] | frost nova had a frost effect, so that slowed. |
| 18:33.55 | Wobin_ | I should go play DII again |
| 18:33.55 | Wobin_ | I always enjoyed it |
| 18:34.06 | Wobin_ | Assassin =) |
| 18:34.12 | Wobin_ | Sorceress... |
| 18:34.15 | Wobin_ | Druid... |
| 18:34.16 | [MoonWolf] | necro and later druid. |
| 18:34.23 | [MoonWolf] | druid was the best thing ever. |
| 18:34.25 | Wobin_ | Necro I couldn't get used to |
| 18:34.27 | Wobin_ | Druid rocked |
| 18:34.28 | [MoonWolf] | a good fighter and summoner. |
| 18:34.35 | Wobin_ | Mine was named Yogi |
| 18:34.41 | Wobin_ | for obvious reasons |
| 18:34.42 | [MoonWolf] | mine was named moonwolf |
| 18:34.48 | [MoonWolf] | and was a werewolf |
| 18:35.13 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 18:35.18 | Tekkub | oh shut up and read my wiki page you nerds |
| 18:35.40 | Wobin_ | Not "What's"? |
| 18:35.50 | [MoonWolf] | everybody who is saying diablo has no real story has not read the diablo manuals |
| 18:35.50 | Wobin_ | or What is? |
| 18:36.00 | Wobin_ | The story of DII was great |
| 18:36.10 | Wobin_ | I liked how the 'hero' just... lost =P |
| 18:36.17 | otravi | Tekkub: your oRA_MainkTank acts strange, at least on the Warmup print you posted :p |
| 18:36.31 | [MoonWolf] | oh yeah that hero from diablo 1, he is corrupted and evil. |
| 18:36.41 | Tekkub | yea I noticed... think it's Compost's fault? |
| 18:36.47 | Wobin_ | And can I say, the angel's wings? |
| 18:36.50 | Wobin_ | Very cool =) |
| 18:36.51 | otravi | Tekkub: since mine is: 0.004 sec | oRA_MainTank (35 KiB) |
| 18:36.54 | Wobin_ | I want wings like those |
| 18:36.59 | Tekkub | that is odd indeed |
| 18:37.12 | [MoonWolf] | it happens, note to future hero, dont jam a soulstone with a greater evil in your forehead. or chest for that matter. |
| 18:37.21 | otravi | Tekkub: I use the SVN version also :p |
| 18:37.23 | Tekkub | it had an old version of compost in it, maybe a complete relog will fix *tests* |
| 18:37.43 | Tekkub | I *just* fixed the compost on my local copy |
| 18:37.43 | otravi | I've seen it before in this patch tho' |
| 18:37.48 | otravi | on CTRA and my unit frame |
| 18:37.58 | Wobin_ | Moon: hehe I can imagine a Warlock on WoW RPing that =P |
| 18:38.11 | Tekkub | and yea I'll move the page to "What is" |
| 18:38.17 | otravi | Tekkub: I don't know why, but I want to blame Warmup |
| 18:38.28 | [MoonWolf] | wow soulstones and diablo soulstones are a LOT different |
| 18:38.33 | Wobin_ | I know =P |
| 18:38.35 | [MoonWolf] | diablo soulstones are shards of the worldstone. |
| 18:38.41 | Wobin_ | I remember =) |
| 18:38.54 | [MoonWolf] | world of diablo would so own. |
| 18:39.01 | Wobin_ | I always had more trouble on that Statue Fight than the end game... |
| 18:39.21 | [MoonWolf] | those gaurdians are evil! |
| 18:39.43 | [MoonWolf] | I mean, i can barely beat them and easely take down baal |
| 18:39.50 | [MoonWolf] | how did baal get past them... |
| 18:39.53 | Tekkub | oh fucking joy |
| 18:40.00 | Tekkub | auth is taking forever |
| 18:40.05 | Tekkub | FUCK WEEKENDS |
| 18:40.20 | Wobin_ | irt Tagging: That just gives a handy copy of the current code without having to mess with history, yeh? |
| 18:41.24 | Tekkub | make any changes you think are needed :) |
| 18:41.31 | [MoonWolf] | anyway it looks good tekkub |
| 18:41.47 | *** join/#wowace cladhair1 (n=jnwhiteh@cpe-24-59-191-241.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 18:42.38 | Wobin_ | Hey Clad, Can I have an SVN account? |
| 18:42.53 | cladhaire | email desired repo name, and login name to cladhaire@gmail.com |
| 18:43.10 | cladhaire | has the DNS really propogated for you all? |
| 18:43.18 | [MoonWolf] | still using hosts |
| 18:43.24 | Wobin_ | works fine for me |
| 18:43.27 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 18:43.28 | cladhaire | odd. |
| 18:43.55 | [MoonWolf] | works without host entry |
| 18:44.55 | Wobin_ | sent |
| 18:45.24 | cladhaire | mine doesn't i think |
| 18:45.39 | cladhaire | its doing it incorrectly tho |
| 18:45.39 | Tekkub | go go super siggie! *evil grin* |
| 18:45.48 | cladhaire | he put the IP in there.. not the ns we needed. |
| 18:45.49 | cladhaire | but *shrug* |
| 18:45.51 | *** join/#wowace banditron (n=cbandito@cpe-67-9-143-58.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 18:45.55 | otravi | cladhaire: did you get my mail :) ? |
| 18:45.56 | Tekkub | and yes clad, all prop'd here |
| 18:46.00 | Tekkub | no HOSTS |
| 18:46.01 | cladhaire | otravi: Nope |
| 18:46.34 | otravi | I'll resend it then, my proxy died as I sent it last time |
| 18:47.37 | otravi | cladhaire: done, once again :) |
| 18:47.58 | cladhaire | Got it this time. |
| 18:49.08 | Wobin_ | Did you get mine? |
| 18:49.44 | [MoonWolf] | how many channels can you have |
| 18:49.45 | [MoonWolf] | 8 ? |
| 18:50.42 | Wobin_ | that sounds somewhat right |
| 18:50.50 | Wobin_ | Night |
| 18:51.28 | *** join/#wowace banditron (n=bandito@cpe-67-9-143-58.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 18:53.21 | Tekkub | 10 I thought |
| 19:02.45 | *** part/#wowace banditron (n=bandito@cpe-67-9-143-58.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 19:02.48 | *** join/#wowace banditron (n=bandito@cpe-67-9-143-58.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 19:08.14 | cladhaire | Wobin/Otravi.. emails have been sent |
| 19:11.23 | otravi | aye |
| 19:26.16 | ckknight | I compost'd FuBar up |
| 19:26.28 | otravi | :D |
| 19:26.41 | ckknight | really, the only thing that I could change was the dropdown menu stuff and the adjust frames stuff |
| 19:27.00 | ckknight | everything else had permanent tables anyway |
| 19:27.01 | Tekkub | you FUBAR'd Compost? you fucker.... |
| 19:27.11 | ckknight | no, Compost'd FuBar |
| 19:27.15 | ckknight | slight difference |
| 19:27.19 | Tekkub | oh! *giggle* |
| 19:27.22 | cladhaire | oh .. well thats a horse of a different color =) |
| 19:27.22 | ckknight | but this whole operation is FuBar, soldier |
| 19:28.12 | Tekkub | you know.. in the end.. FuBar is kinda an underhanded jab at Titan |
| 19:28.28 | Tekkub | "You know, this one's FuBar'd, yet it's better than Titan!" |
| 19:29.09 | ckknight | lol |
| 19:30.53 | Tekkub | hey otter, can I have commit access to oRA and it's modules? |
| 19:32.31 | otravi | sure |
| 19:32.39 | otravi | just force cladhaire to give you access |
| 19:32.53 | cladhaire | what directory? |
| 19:33.10 | otravi | otravi in general, it doesn't matter |
| 19:33.10 | Tekkub | trunk/oRA* |
| 19:33.17 | cladhaire | k.. gimme a bit and i'll get it done |
| 19:33.19 | Tekkub | or that :) |
| 19:33.40 | otravi | I'm one of those that just trusts everyone :) |
| 19:33.50 | Tekkub | me too |
| 19:34.09 | cladhaire | done |
| 19:34.10 | Tekkub | especially considering they can't wipe the history it'd be easy to undo |
| 19:34.30 | otravi | hehe |
| 19:35.17 | hyperChipmunk | ey boss |
| 19:35.22 | hyperChipmunk | lookin' good |
| 19:36.19 | Tekkub | clad you get it so we don't have to reset password now? |
| 19:36.44 | cladhaire | you dont this time |
| 19:36.47 | cladhaire | i'll tell you when/f you need to |
| 19:36.53 | Tekkub | okey :) |
| 19:40.22 | cladhaire | but you should be good to commit now |
| 19:42.56 | Tekkub | yea I already did :P |
| 19:43.01 | cladhaire | psh |
| 19:47.00 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, I'm gonna upload a fix for the bugs in the detached tooltip now |
| 19:47.08 | ckknight | deals with clicking and the hint |
| 19:47.24 | ckknight | I turned QuestFu into a detached dealy |
| 19:47.30 | ckknight | and errors arose |
| 19:48.14 | ckknight | okay, committed, hyperChipmunk |
| 19:48.48 | hyperChipmunk | did you fix the location memory? |
| 19:49.09 | ckknight | no |
| 19:49.16 | ckknight | wait, what? |
| 19:49.20 | hyperChipmunk | it forgets where it's supposed to be |
| 19:50.15 | ckknight | yea... |
| 19:50.20 | ckknight | not yet |
| 19:50.25 | Tem|afk | [MoonWolf]: you still around? |
| 19:51.41 | hyperChipmunk | getting a CompostLib error |
| 19:52.09 | ckknight | what's it say? |
| 19:52.19 | hyperChipmunk | attempt to index global CompostLib |
| 19:52.24 | hyperChipmunk | (a nil value) |
| 19:52.25 | ckknight | dammit |
| 19:52.30 | hyperChipmunk | you forget to include it? |
| 19:52.37 | hyperChipmunk | hm, no, it's here |
| 19:52.56 | ckknight | oh |
| 19:53.00 | ckknight | restart WoW |
| 19:53.07 | ckknight | cause it's a new file |
| 19:53.12 | hyperChipmunk | doh |
| 19:53.37 | ckknight | oh yea, I have it so that neither the hint nor the title appears on detached tooltips |
| 19:53.46 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 19:53.54 | hyperChipmunk | ok I did that manually =) |
| 19:54.02 | ckknight | lol |
| 19:54.17 | ckknight | frankly, I think that they aren't needed for a scoreboard |
| 19:54.23 | ckknight | cause you'd know what it is by position |
| 19:54.28 | ckknight | and the hint doesn't make sense |
| 19:54.33 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 19:54.37 | ckknight | cause that's what you do when you click on the text, not the tooltip |
| 19:54.42 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 19:54.51 | ckknight | the detached version of QuestFu is pimp, btw |
| 19:54.53 | hyperChipmunk | you need a way to tell if it's detached |
| 19:54.58 | ckknight | easy |
| 19:54.59 | hyperChipmunk | same with BatFu |
| 19:55.02 | ckknight | self.tooltip == FuBarTooltip |
| 19:55.10 | hyperChipmunk | ah k |
| 19:55.12 | ckknight | that's a 100% surefire way to tell |
| 19:55.25 | ckknight | if it's true, it's attached |
| 19:55.25 | hyperChipmunk | good deal |
| 19:55.30 | ckknight | if it's not, it's detached |
| 19:55.45 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 19:55.49 | ckknight | MenuSettings changed a bit |
| 19:55.53 | ckknight | it now has a 3rd argument |
| 19:55.55 | ckknight | inTooltip |
| 19:55.57 | hyperChipmunk | saw that |
| 19:56.00 | ckknight | alright |
| 19:56.08 | ckknight | basically, don't have any text-related stuff in the tooltip |
| 19:56.13 | ckknight | tooltip options |
| 19:56.19 | ckknight | but have all the tooltip stuff there |
| 19:56.23 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 19:56.28 | hyperChipmunk | oh, I dunno if this might be important |
| 19:56.34 | ckknight | htm? |
| 19:56.36 | ckknight | hrm* |
| 19:57.07 | hyperChipmunk | wait, no, I think I figured it out |
| 19:58.03 | hyperChipmunk | there a reason moving a detached tooltip is so difficult? |
| 19:58.26 | ckknight | cause you're clicking on a line that's a button |
| 19:59.04 | hyperChipmunk | I mean, it drags...but it drops it without a mouse release |
| 19:59.11 | ckknight | oh |
| 19:59.15 | ckknight | um |
| 19:59.20 | ckknight | hardware issue |
| 19:59.23 | ckknight | my best guess |
| 19:59.30 | ckknight | cause it's kind of impossible with the code I wrote |
| 19:59.50 | hyperChipmunk | looks like it happens on update |
| 19:59.54 | ckknight | cause it only does tooltip:StopDraggingOrSizing() during an OnMouseUp() |
| 19:59.58 | ckknight | hrm |
| 19:59.58 | ckknight | oh |
| 20:00.00 | ckknight | yea. |
| 20:00.03 | ckknight | that'd do it |
| 20:00.07 | ckknight | crap. |
| 20:00.07 | hyperChipmunk | my stuff changes every second =) |
| 20:00.14 | ckknight | cause you're a dick |
| 20:00.15 | hyperChipmunk | cuz there's timers in there |
| 20:00.18 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 20:00.21 | ckknight | I'll fix it |
| 20:00.38 | ckknight | send me your code |
| 20:00.49 | ckknight | I want to test with what you have |
| 20:01.11 | hyperChipmunk | I was just about to do an upload to wowi; I'll send it to you instead |
| 20:01.25 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:01.39 | ckknight | this'll take only 5 minutes |
| 20:01.40 | ckknight | hopefully |
| 20:01.46 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/FuBar_BattlegroundFu-0.9.10.zip |
| 20:02.45 | ckknight | in the meantime, update your dropdown list for compost |
| 20:02.51 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:03.03 | hyperChipmunk | I need to rewrite that to be one table |
| 20:03.12 | hyperChipmunk | not remade each time |
| 20:03.27 | hyperChipmunk | and then I'll figure out compost |
| 20:04.38 | ckknight | that's what compost does |
| 20:04.45 | ckknight | just do Erase at the end of each deal |
| 20:04.56 | ckknight | pretty simple |
| 20:05.21 | ckknight | local info = compost:Acquire(); info.whatever = stuff; UidropDownMenu_AddButton(info, level |
| 20:05.30 | ckknight | ); compost:Erase(info) |
| 20:05.56 | hyperChipmunk | that's what I mean |
| 20:06.07 | hyperChipmunk | wait, hm |
| 20:06.18 | ckknight | then you can keep doing it over and over |
| 20:06.25 | ckknight | at the end, just do compost:Reclaim(info) |
| 20:06.51 | hyperChipmunk | my dropdown table itself is regenerated every time you click though |
| 20:07.08 | ckknight | so? |
| 20:07.17 | ckknight | everyone's is |
| 20:07.22 | ckknight | that's how it works |
| 20:07.26 | ckknight | use compost. |
| 20:08.11 | hyperChipmunk | Tem had suggested I make the table once and just reference it each time, since it's basically static |
| 20:08.59 | Tekkub | my hunband is a retard |
| 20:09.00 | ckknight | you can, or you can just use compost |
| 20:09.07 | ckknight | hunband? |
| 20:09.14 | Tekkub | he has COMPLETELY BROKEN BoE equipment in his bag... |
| 20:09.23 | Tekkub | which means he's SH'd at least 4 times |
| 20:10.00 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:10.01 | hyperChipmunk | awesome |
| 20:10.01 | Tekkub | he's Lvl 60, he should never be SHing |
| 20:10.26 | Tekkub | 22s to repair a 1g at AH item.... |
| 20:10.29 | Tekkub | worth it? |
| 20:11.20 | Tekkub | they're twilightist pieces so they will sell, but still... |
| 20:11.26 | Tekkub | 1g to earn 3... |
| 20:11.39 | Tekkub | I guess it's his loss |
| 20:12.04 | Tekkub | he's also a cheapskate and buys only like 5 seeds/wilds at a time.. I bought full stacks of both for him |
| 20:12.16 | Tekkub | with his money, of course |
| 20:12.56 | Tekkub | hey I just had a tiny mod idea |
| 20:13.05 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 20:13.17 | Tekkub | I don't like the "pop up a big frame" repair reminders... or the auto-repairers.... |
| 20:13.18 | hyperChipmunk | twilight stuff doesn't need to be fixed to use I don't think |
| 20:13.34 | Tekkub | why not just flash the repair icon if you need repairs when at a vendor |
| 20:13.45 | hyperChipmunk | it already lights up |
| 20:14.09 | Tekkub | no, flash |
| 20:14.11 | Tekkub | not light up, blink, be mildly annoying |
| 20:14.21 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, fixed the issue |
| 20:14.25 | Tekkub | get some attention but don't shove a dialog in the user's face |
| 20:14.35 | Tekkub | and it has to be repaired to sell on AH |
| 20:15.04 | ckknight | and committed |
| 20:15.20 | ckknight | test it out, I couldn't test with BatFu, but I did with ExpFu |
| 20:15.30 | hyperChipmunk | righto chief |
| 20:16.15 | hyperChipmunk | yaay |
| 20:16.22 | ckknight | yay |
| 20:16.42 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:16.50 | ckknight | I included a lock feature as well |
| 20:17.00 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I was using that |
| 20:17.09 | ckknight | alright |
| 20:17.29 | ckknight | all it does is prevent dragging |
| 20:17.31 | hyperChipmunk | hey it remembers now =) |
| 20:17.51 | hyperChipmunk | ok, time for some suggestions |
| 20:17.53 | ckknight | yes, to fix that memory bug deal |
| 20:17.58 | ckknight | for me or for you? |
| 20:18.04 | hyperChipmunk | one, for you |
| 20:18.14 | hyperChipmunk | er |
| 20:18.16 | hyperChipmunk | two, for you |
| 20:18.34 | ckknight | hit me |
| 20:18.37 | hyperChipmunk | first, when you click everything off |
| 20:18.43 | hyperChipmunk | without a title or a hint |
| 20:18.48 | Tekkub | Boss, you're usin the SVN too? |
| 20:18.50 | hyperChipmunk | it turns into a teensytiny box |
| 20:18.56 | ckknight | Tekkub, I have my own SVN |
| 20:19.00 | hyperChipmunk | with no identifying marks |
| 20:19.01 | ckknight | yea... |
| 20:19.08 | Tekkub | oh... addy? |
| 20:19.11 | ckknight | thinking I'll replace that with the name |
| 20:19.18 | hyperChipmunk | was my suggestion =) |
| 20:19.21 | Tekkub | I need to stop being lazy about BossPanel updates |
| 20:19.23 | hyperChipmunk | second |
| 20:19.26 | ckknight | svn://ckknight.hopto.org/FuBar and svn://ckknight.hopto.org/BabbleLib |
| 20:19.30 | Tekkub | yes, I'm still using BP |
| 20:19.32 | hyperChipmunk | it always expands downward |
| 20:19.35 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:19.39 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, it shouldn't |
| 20:19.42 | ckknight | damn |
| 20:19.48 | hyperChipmunk | well it did this morning |
| 20:19.51 | ckknight | it should expend away from the corner |
| 20:19.58 | Tem | oh for christs sake |
| 20:20.01 | hyperChipmunk | like, if I clicked off the player statistics |
| 20:20.04 | Tem | another Ace* addon |
| 20:20.09 | ckknight | ? |
| 20:20.12 | hyperChipmunk | and moved the frame to be against the bottom edge |
| 20:20.14 | hyperChipmunk | and clicked them back on |
| 20:20.25 | Tem | I'm so damn sick of people posting addons with Ace* names |
| 20:20.27 | hyperChipmunk | the top edge anchored |
| 20:20.41 | hyperChipmunk | and the bottom edge moved off the screen to make the necessary space |
| 20:20.41 | Tekkub | Tem: we all are I think |
| 20:20.42 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, I don't understand the situation |
| 20:20.46 | ckknight | what's going on? |
| 20:20.50 | hyperChipmunk | ok |
| 20:21.02 | ckknight | Tem, what addon is it? |
| 20:21.11 | Tem | not sure lol |
| 20:21.19 | Tem | I'll have to back out a few pages |
| 20:21.32 | Tem | AceAutoInvite |
| 20:21.39 | hyperChipmunk | I've got an option to check --oh crap, I just lost my tooltip off-screen |
| 20:21.45 | hyperChipmunk | that's a big bad |
| 20:21.53 | ckknight | ooh |
| 20:21.56 | ckknight | how'd you do that? |
| 20:22.18 | Tem | ckknight: use ValidtateFramePosition after StopMovingOrSizing |
| 20:22.40 | Tem | that will reposition it on screen if it has been moved off |
| 20:22.48 | hyperChipmunk | i moved it to the bottom edge, with only queues displaying |
| 20:22.53 | hyperChipmunk | then I turned off queues |
| 20:23.37 | hyperChipmunk | I think it might be removing stuff the way it should be adding stuff, and vice-versa |
| 20:23.46 | ckknight | what does ValidateFramePosition do? |
| 20:24.26 | hyperChipmunk | /script ValidateFramePosition() |
| 20:24.27 | hyperChipmunk | ? |
| 20:24.47 | Tem | frame:StopMovingOrSizing() ValidateFramePosition(frame) |
| 20:25.00 | Tem | it moves it back onto the screen if it has been moved off |
| 20:25.05 | ckknight | hrm |
| 20:25.06 | Tekkub | pushes it till it's all on screen, right? |
| 20:25.27 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:25.28 | hyperChipmunk | brings it back |
| 20:25.30 | ckknight | that's in |
| 20:25.55 | Tem | to see an example, shove your ItemRefTooltip off the screen |
| 20:27.27 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, so what was your 2nd suggestion? |
| 20:27.34 | hyperChipmunk | anyway, if I have the tooltip detached and partway off the bottom of the screen, and I take its contents out, it disappears |
| 20:27.42 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:27.50 | ckknight | well, that's sorta fixed now |
| 20:28.06 | hyperChipmunk | oh, that if it was on the bottom of the screen, the bottom edge shouldn't move down to fit new stuff, the upper edge should move up |
| 20:28.06 | ckknight | hrm, I should still make it float above the Main Bar |
| 20:28.27 | ckknight | yea, it does that now |
| 20:28.36 | ckknight | least it should |
| 20:30.48 | hyperChipmunk | it should do the opposite when removing stuff if the bottom corner is off the screen |
| 20:30.58 | hyperChipmunk | or else you lose your window |
| 20:31.05 | ckknight | yes, I know |
| 20:31.07 | ckknight | it does that |
| 20:31.10 | ckknight | have you seen otherwise? |
| 20:31.18 | ckknight | it moves away from the nearest corner |
| 20:31.19 | hyperChipmunk | I'm doing it right now =P |
| 20:31.20 | Tekkub | I love this song... the backgroud vocals sound like they're saying "BAKA! .... BAKA! ... BAKA!" |
| 20:31.22 | ckknight | to the middle |
| 20:31.23 | ckknight | gah. |
| 20:31.54 | hyperChipmunk | it needs to move to a positive corner, maybe? |
| 20:32.03 | hyperChipmunk | like, it's going up if it's below the bottom edge |
| 20:32.24 | hyperChipmunk | no, wait, that's what it needs to do and it isn't |
| 20:32.25 | ckknight | is that what it's doing now? |
| 20:32.29 | ckknight | oh |
| 20:32.30 | ckknight | weird |
| 20:32.37 | ckknight | it's working for me |
| 20:32.37 | *** join/#wowace Shyva (n=n0time@sd511586e.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 20:32.46 | hyperChipmunk | you have batfu up? |
| 20:33.24 | hyperChipmunk | it's easy to reproduce |
| 20:33.28 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:33.31 | Tekkub | you know what... |
| 20:33.44 | Tekkub | someone needs to rip the timing code out of Flightmap |
| 20:33.53 | hyperChipmunk | go to a city and get yourself in a few queues so you have something in the tooltip |
| 20:34.03 | Tekkub | make it into a FuBar mod that shows time till landing... named ToFu |
| 20:34.14 | hyperChipmunk | hehee |
| 20:35.08 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, my char's not high enough |
| 20:35.25 | hyperChipmunk | doh |
| 20:35.29 | hyperChipmunk | and I don't have questfu =P |
| 20:35.49 | hyperChipmunk | well, what happens is this, I'll describe it |
| 20:36.15 | *** join/#wowace haste (n=haste@host-81-191-131-80.bluecom.no) |
| 20:36.29 | hyperChipmunk | I make my tooltip show two lines, consisting of the queue I'm in and the title for that category |
| 20:36.40 | hyperChipmunk | then I put half of the tooltip off the bottom of the screen |
| 20:36.49 | ckknight | which I already fixed. |
| 20:37.03 | ckknight | so don't think about that test case |
| 20:37.23 | hyperChipmunk | now, when I turn off queues, it disappears -- the little nubbyboxtooltip seems to go to the bottomright |
| 20:37.42 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:37.43 | hyperChipmunk | which is not on the screen |
| 20:37.49 | ckknight | I already fixed that |
| 20:37.53 | hyperChipmunk | this is revision 272 |
| 20:38.00 | ckknight | I haven't committed. |
| 20:38.01 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 20:38.04 | hyperChipmunk | well =) |
| 20:38.13 | ckknight | I told you I fixed that like 3 times now... |
| 20:38.20 | hyperChipmunk | well it isn't fixed on mine! |
| 20:38.27 | hyperChipmunk | >8P |
| 20:39.23 | ckknight | alright |
| 20:39.37 | ckknight | got it so it both doesn't go off the screen, but it also doesn't go into the panel's space as well |
| 20:39.47 | *** join/#wowace Slayman (i=Slayman@c150241.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 20:39.52 | hyperChipmunk | excellent |
| 20:40.16 | ckknight | committed |
| 20:41.58 | Tekkub | the UI coords start at the bottomleft right? |
| 20:42.07 | ckknight | yes |
| 20:42.12 | Tekkub | +x == right, +y = up |
| 20:43.16 | ckknight | correct |
| 20:43.35 | hyperChipmunk | kay, if that's all for now, gonna shift my attention back. I'm instancing with my g/f and she's getting kinda peeved =) |
| 20:44.05 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:44.28 | *** join/#wowace Shyva (n=n0time@sd511586e.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 20:46.33 | Tekkub | muahahahahaha! |
| 20:46.41 | Tekkub | I just wrote a tiny lil library |
| 20:47.00 | Tekkub | all it does is push a frame so that it doesn't fall offscreen |
| 20:47.16 | Tekkub | and I'm gonna make it dual-mon capable of course |
| 20:47.20 | Tekkub | and it's named.... |
| 20:47.26 | id`` | that already exists |
| 20:47.27 | Tekkub | StayBetweenTheLines |
| 20:47.31 | ckknight | make it look for Titan and FuBar bars |
| 20:47.34 | ckknight | and stay between them |
| 20:47.50 | Tekkub | erf... that's not so simple now |
| 20:48.03 | ckknight | I'll give you the FuBar code |
| 20:48.08 | ckknight | pretty simple |
| 20:48.12 | Tekkub | and where indie? |
| 20:48.19 | id`` | Tekkub, looking |
| 20:48.25 | Tekkub | *waits* |
| 20:48.44 | id`` | came with a bar addonw |
| 20:49.02 | hyperChipmunk | make it look for Titan Bars and replace them with FuBar bars |
| 20:49.06 | hyperChipmunk | that's be a good mod |
| 20:49.15 | Tekkub | oh and it only handles frames with a single anchor right now... I might change that but it'll require a table |
| 20:49.45 | kergoth | id``, i know bagnon uses the Infield addon for that |
| 20:49.51 | Tekkub | but it works, fixed my SetWrangler tooltips |
| 20:49.52 | id`` | yeah that |
| 20:49.53 | ckknight | people should release mods that break Titan at random times |
| 20:49.59 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 20:50.00 | id`` | it was pretty anoying tho |
| 20:50.09 | Tekkub | why should mods do that? |
| 20:50.14 | Tekkub | Blizzard does it monthly |
| 20:50.15 | id`` | Tekkub, Infield |
| 20:50.15 | id`` | :p |
| 20:50.17 | ckknight | I'm just joking |
| 20:50.19 | ckknight | lol, Tekkub |
| 20:50.35 | Tekkub | oh yea,, bagnon is dependant on Infield |
| 20:50.46 | Tekkub | I never looked to see what it was |
| 20:50.49 | Tekkub | *looks* |
| 20:50.52 | Tekkub | *steals* |
| 20:52.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:52.15 | Tekkub | yea infield is basically doing the same thing |
| 20:52.21 | Tekkub | tho it's bugged |
| 20:52.41 | Tekkub | you can't specify anchorpoints, it uses TOPLEFT to BOTTOMLEFT |
| 20:52.51 | Tekkub | mine's better *grin* |
| 20:53.03 | kergoth | do me a favor and make bagnon use yours then. i love bagnon |
| 20:53.04 | kergoth | ;) |
| 20:53.41 | Tekkub | it grabs the anchor info, tweaks the x/y offsets and sets the point again :) |
| 20:54.25 | Tekkub | Boss: I'll post up the basic version on my repo, you tweak it for FuBar and email me it or something |
| 20:54.27 | Tekkub | *grin* |
| 20:55.19 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:55.20 | kergoth | you make it embeddable? |
| 20:55.31 | ckknight | it's all of like 10 lines, Tekkub |
| 20:55.53 | Tekkub | yes it'll be embeddable |
| 20:56.03 | Tekkub | like DUH! |
| 20:56.21 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:56.31 | kergoth | id``, http://kergoth.com/projects/homefiles/timeline .. hehe. trac for my vim/vimrc! :P |
| 20:57.26 | hyperChipmunk | ehhe |
| 20:58.15 | id`` | lol |
| 21:00.02 | kergoth | we need trac on the new svn imo. it isnt that hard to set up. took me about an hour to set up multiple projects with a number of extra plugins to facilitate web based trac administration and tagging and such |
| 21:00.12 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:00.30 | [MoonWolf] | kaelten gave up on doing svn on the old server because he could not get trac working.... |
| 21:00.38 | [MoonWolf] | and you say its NOT hard ? |
| 21:01.18 | [Ammo] | new svn? |
| 21:01.40 | [Ammo] | I guess |
| 21:01.44 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 21:06.02 | kergoth | [MoonWolf]: well, its not hard if you use the right distro. apt-get install trac; trac-admin /srv/www/trac/WOW initenv; :P |
| 21:06.10 | kergoth | then the apache2 config of course |
| 21:06.14 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 21:06.28 | [MoonWolf] | yay apt/emerge etc |
| 21:06.33 | kergoth | indeed |
| 21:07.05 | [MoonWolf] | if only you could do apt-get install WoW |
| 21:07.29 | Tekkub | wewt, got dual support working :) |
| 21:07.53 | Tekkub | I love 5-min fixes for a major annoyannoyance across many mods |
| 21:10.05 | [MoonWolf] | I have the chat command thing working like it should now... |
| 21:10.36 | [MoonWolf] | do you think people want to whipser others the mendeleev information on a certain item ? |
| 21:14.12 | [MoonWolf] | anybody home ? |
| 21:15.12 | ckknight | I don't know, [MoonWolf] |
| 21:15.24 | Tekkub | Moon: I want to at times.... |
| 21:15.31 | Tekkub | namely "where's that drop" |
| 21:15.55 | Tekkub | and sometimes "What class is this purple ZG item for? |
| 21:16.09 | Tekkub | but for #2 I wrote, but never finished, UpLink |
| 21:17.10 | Tekkub | you know moon... bloat... don't add that to mendy |
| 21:17.17 | Tekkub | make a seperate addon if anything |
| 21:17.40 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.03 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.10 | Tekkub | *grin* |
| 21:18.14 | Tekkub | mod idea! |
| 21:18.31 | Tekkub | it's an ideaful day isn't it? |
| 21:20.26 | Tekkub | *giggle* I just thought of what the description for Engravings will be |
| 21:20.52 | Tekkub | "If found please return to Tekkub Stoutwrithe of Icecrown" |
| 21:22.07 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub i have support to print to channels, doing it for tells is only a few more lines of cod |
| 21:22.10 | [MoonWolf] | code* |
| 21:22.13 | [MoonWolf] | if you say people will use it. |
| 21:22.18 | Tekkub | I would |
| 21:22.29 | [MoonWolf] | k |
| 21:22.32 | Tekkub | it'd make for ultra-fast info sending |
| 21:22.43 | [MoonWolf] | that it would |
| 21:22.44 | Tekkub | I've retyped mendy data a few times, annoying! |
| 21:22.56 | [MoonWolf] | tell them to get mendy themselves |
| 21:23.01 | Tekkub | :P |
| 21:23.10 | Tekkub | I do' they don't listen |
| 21:23.26 | [MoonWolf] | threaten guild drama |
| 21:24.56 | Tekkub | http://svn.wowace.com/Tekkub/trunk/StayWithinTheLines/StayWithinTheLines.lua |
| 21:25.37 | [MoonWolf] | damnit, i ran out of homeopathic sleeping pills. |
| 21:25.47 | Tekkub | homopathic? |
| 21:26.48 | [MoonWolf] | # |
| 21:26.48 | [MoonWolf] | # Homeopathy (also spelled homœopathy or homoeopathy), from the Greek words homoios (similar) and pathos (suffering), is a system of alternative medicine, notable for its controversial practice of prescribing water-based solutions that do not contain chemically active ingredients. The theory of homeopathy was developed by the Saxon physician Samuel Hahnemann (1755–1843) and first published in 179 |
| 21:27.08 | Tekkub | Homopathy? |
| 21:27.22 | [MoonWolf] | simpathy for gay's ? |
| 21:27.31 | ckknight | Tekkub, found a bug |
| 21:27.37 | Tekkub | gah! |
| 21:27.45 | ckknight | line 163 |
| 21:27.51 | ckknight | those x's should be y's |
| 21:28.13 | Tekkub | >< |
| 21:29.49 | Tekkub | fixed |
| 21:32.27 | [MoonWolf] | tells system working. |
| 21:33.42 | [MoonWolf] | tommorow i redo the hooks |
| 21:33.47 | [MoonWolf] | i have at least one bug to fix there. |
| 21:34.43 | ckknight | Tekkub, http://ace.pastebin.com/650242 |
| 21:34.48 | [MoonWolf] | and kaelten has an iteresting new hooking system set up in KCI |
| 21:35.05 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 21:35.56 | Tekkub | you only correcting for the bottom boss? |
| 21:36.14 | Tekkub | oh I see |
| 21:36.20 | Tekkub | you chang height |
| 21:36.23 | Tekkub | *change |
| 21:36.25 | Tekkub | :) |
| 21:36.28 | Tekkub | me slow |
| 21:37.45 | [MoonWolf] | someone is asking for a ace version of decursive!!!!! |
| 21:37.51 | [MoonWolf] | someone who is not me slap him in the face. |
| 21:38.29 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 21:38.50 | [Ammo] | I just 'finished' my necrosis clone :) |
| 21:39.03 | [Ammo] | recoded everything from scratch |
| 21:39.09 | [Ammo] | just stole to graphics |
| 21:39.33 | kergoth | nice |
| 21:39.50 | [Ammo] | works really well |
| 21:40.00 | [Ammo] | no tooltips when hovering though |
| 21:40.00 | ckknight | good stuff, [ammo] |
| 21:40.08 | [Ammo] | but the spelltimers are good |
| 21:40.38 | ckknight | Tekkub: :-) |
| 21:40.43 | Tekkub | of course they're asking, Quu is leaving or whatever |
| 21:40.57 | [MoonWolf] | [Ammo], that is the way to do it. |
| 21:40.58 | Tekkub | it might be a good way to pull a lot of attention to ace.... |
| 21:41.00 | [MoonWolf] | nuke and pave! |
| 21:41.05 | Tekkub | If we want that.... |
| 21:41.18 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, people dont want to pay attention to ace |
| 21:41.18 | ckknight | yea, just look at what it looks like, then build from scratch |
| 21:41.20 | ckknight | it's the best way |
| 21:41.23 | [MoonWolf] | we are to nerdy for the nerds. |
| 21:41.36 | Tekkub | yea, like linux nerds |
| 21:41.43 | Tekkub | oh wait... |
| 21:42.06 | Tekkub | anyway, got Boss's tweat to Lines committed up :) |
| 21:42.09 | [Ammo] | http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/Necronomicon.zip if you want to try it :) |
| 21:42.11 | Tekkub | *tweak |
| 21:42.27 | [MoonWolf] | You write smaller more efficient addons... what kind of a nerd are you. |
| 21:42.31 | Tekkub | hey ammo, you get svn.wowace acct yet? |
| 21:42.33 | [Ammo] | I could optimize the button creation code |
| 21:42.37 | [Ammo] | no |
| 21:42.43 | [Ammo] | no-one told me there was a new SVN :p |
| 21:42.51 | [Ammo] | so I'm still using the other one |
| 21:42.59 | Tekkub | email clad, get one, I'll ask him to give you access to my repo |
| 21:43.01 | [Ammo] | I could also optimize my spell detection code |
| 21:43.05 | kergoth | more granular repositories there. ace itself has its own now, as do others |
| 21:43.08 | kergoth | hrm |
| 21:43.15 | Tekkub | I can't connect to opensvn today >< |
| 21:43.18 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com |
| 21:43.29 | [Ammo] | can I get an account? |
| 21:43.31 | kergoth | did they get around to updating svn yet? |
| 21:43.32 | Tekkub | clad, give him access to mine :) |
| 21:43.40 | kergoth | last i checked, the wowace.com nameservers listed the old ip |
| 21:43.44 | Tekkub | oh and Shyva too ^^ |
| 21:43.46 | kergoth | er, updating dns |
| 21:43.56 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: Email me desired REPO name, and desired login name |
| 21:44.03 | [Ammo] | Ammo Ammo :p |
| 21:44.09 | otravi | cladhaire: give him access to mine when he has access |
| 21:44.22 | [Ammo] | but what's your email? |
| 21:44.29 | cladhaire | cladhaire@gmail.com |
| 21:44.31 | [Ammo] | I'll email it so you can reply with password |
| 21:44.36 | otravi | ever tried manually setting the permission on av PHPBB forum? |
| 21:44.46 | otravi | it's the most retarded system I've ever seen... |
| 21:45.55 | [Ammo] | mail is otw |
| 21:46.17 | [MoonWolf] | hah, you even have the same center orb thingy |
| 21:46.22 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 21:46.28 | [Ammo] | but mine doesn't eat memory while idle |
| 21:46.40 | [Ammo] | and the spelltimers use Timex so are more accurate ;) |
| 21:46.50 | [Ammo] | the long duration ones are at least |
| 21:47.12 | [Ammo] | the summon menu should be accurate to what spells you have |
| 21:47.28 | [Ammo] | healthstone creation and trading should work |
| 21:47.39 | [Ammo] | as well as soulstone / summon messages, nothing is configurable though ;) |
| 21:47.47 | [Ammo] | just one slashcommand: /necro reset |
| 21:47.53 | [Ammo] | to set it back to the original position |
| 21:48.44 | [MoonWolf] | yeah |
| 21:49.04 | [MoonWolf] | the summon menu actually only listing what you have is what i wanted for a long time in necrosis |
| 21:49.17 | [MoonWolf] | congrats on a job well done. |
| 21:49.31 | otravi | This is really getting to my nerves.... |
| 21:49.52 | [Ammo] | the code is a bit bad atm |
| 21:50.03 | [MoonWolf] | did not look at it. |
| 21:50.08 | [Ammo] | lots of redundant stuff in the checking of which spells you have |
| 21:50.22 | [Ammo] | but I'll get that sorted with a few tables and a simpler loop with less checks |
| 21:50.44 | [Ammo] | that code is only run when you learn a new spell |
| 21:51.02 | [MoonWolf] | see the difference is you know and care about what your code. |
| 21:51.14 | [MoonWolf] | i have the idea the original necrosis developer could not give a shit. |
| 21:52.27 | [MoonWolf] | anyway , i am going to BED. |
| 21:52.33 | [Ammo] | I should too |
| 21:52.37 | [MoonWolf] | night people |
| 21:52.39 | otravi | hah... it was easier to create another user, edit the other users permission and delete the new user then: manually edit the permisisons, edit the persmission with the first user |
| 21:52.40 | [Ammo] | coding while listening to the guild clearing bwl sucks |
| 21:52.58 | [Ammo] | specially when they killed all bosses first go.. meh |
| 21:53.05 | [Ammo] | and my circlet dropped from Nef |
| 21:56.13 | cladhaire | AMmo.. email sent. |
| 21:56.30 | otravi | cladhaire: access set? |
| 21:56.38 | cladhaire | have to update it gimme a sec |
| 21:57.22 | cladhaire | Who did you want in yours otravi? |
| 21:57.25 | cladhaire | tekkub and ammo? |
| 21:57.44 | [Ammo] | thanks clad |
| 21:58.09 | Tekkub | give ammo access to mine :) |
| 21:58.33 | Tekkub | clad, thought... and everyone else give opinion... |
| 21:58.49 | cladhaire | Ammo: Let me know when you've changed your password |
| 21:59.09 | Tekkub | why not grant universal access to all the repos to everyone? |
| 21:59.14 | cladhaire | cause i can't. |
| 21:59.15 | cladhaire | its not that easy |
| 21:59.18 | Tekkub | if there's an issue you can restrict later |
| 21:59.19 | cladhaire | that's harder than this.l |
| 21:59.30 | Tekkub | okey then |
| 21:59.37 | Tekkub | just was a thought :) |
| 21:59.39 | cladhaire | =) |
| 21:59.55 | cladhaire | understandable. but because they're seperate repositories.. which is a VERY good thing.. it makes permissions like that very difficult. |
| 21:59.56 | [Ammo] | keep getting passwords don't match stuff |
| 22:00.07 | cladhaire | Ammo: k.. lemme look |
| 22:00.20 | cladhaire | all lowercase ammo |
| 22:00.23 | cladhaire | i just tested and it works =) |
| 22:00.43 | otravi | cladhaire: yes, I want tekkub and [Ammo] to have access :) |
| 22:01.06 | [Ammo] | I did that clad |
| 22:01.15 | [Ammo] | then gives me the New Password and Confirm dialog |
| 22:01.19 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 22:01.20 | [Ammo] | and I type 2x same password |
| 22:01.28 | cladhaire | and it fails? |
| 22:01.28 | [Ammo] | and it says: they don't match |
| 22:01.42 | cladhaire | i just changed your passsword and it worked fine |
| 22:01.47 | [Ammo] | grr |
| 22:01.57 | cladhaire | try again |
| 22:01.59 | cladhaire | password is hello |
| 22:02.08 | [Ammo] | ok |
| 22:02.42 | [Ammo] | Confirm one should be same as the New one right? |
| 22:02.49 | cladhaire | yes |
| 22:02.50 | [Ammo] | because it keeps saying they don't match |
| 22:02.51 | [Ammo] | damn thing |
| 22:03.00 | cladhaire | perhaps there's a javascript error on your end of things |
| 22:03.07 | cladhaire | do you have a different browser to try? |
| 22:03.29 | cladhaire | i can change it for you if you'd like.. but i set it up so i dont have to know anyone's pw =) |
| 22:05.02 | [Ammo] | I'll try it |
| 22:05.05 | [Ammo] | with FF |
| 22:05.22 | Tekkub | you know what I'd like to see... |
| 22:05.45 | cladhaire | Tekkub: I'm wearing sweatpants and I have no intentinos of taking them of. |
| 22:05.45 | [Ammo] | works in FF |
| 22:05.48 | [Ammo] | didn't work in IE :) |
| 22:05.50 | [Ammo] | ohwell |
| 22:05.56 | cladhaire | Heheh feck ie =) |
| 22:05.56 | Tekkub | I'd like an Econ major to analyize DKP, SK and random looting methods |
| 22:06.17 | cladhaire | Should be all set you three =) |
| 22:06.27 | Tekkub | cause I have a hunch SK is the most "fair" across the board to all participants |
| 22:06.44 | Tekkub | and that DKP has an inherrant inflation to it |
| 22:06.57 | Tekkub | thus making it unfair to newer players in the system |
| 22:07.10 | Tekkub | unless the DKP values are continually rebalanced |
| 22:07.33 | [Ammo] | ours works pretty well |
| 22:07.58 | Tekkub | I mean, ideally a raid should grant a total DKP value equal to what is spent on drops, over the longterm average |
| 22:08.17 | otravi | we have a DKP system with class lockouts, and minbids |
| 22:08.17 | [Ammo] | tht's called zerosum or something |
| 22:08.25 | [Ammo] | yeah we have class lockouts as well |
| 22:08.27 | [Ammo] | and minbids |
| 22:08.33 | Tekkub | but at the same time you'd have to continually rebalance because each time someone gets a drop the demand lowers |
| 22:08.36 | otravi | zerosum is the one with the most dkp = win ? |
| 22:09.01 | Tekkub | I dunno, I just like SK system the more I look at it |
| 22:09.04 | [Ammo] | zerosum is if 1 person spends 20 dkp on sometihng all other members get 20 / numberofmembers |
| 22:09.12 | Tekkub | if you raid less you'll be higher in the list on average |
| 22:09.30 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 22:09.35 | Tekkub | that's interesting |
| 22:09.51 | [Ammo] | atm in our guild you can earn 84 dkp per week, and there's a cap of 250 dkp |
| 22:09.52 | Tekkub | so in the end DKP spent == DKP gained |
| 22:09.58 | [Ammo] | yeah that's zerosum |
| 22:10.06 | Tekkub | that's a neat way of doing it |
| 22:10.08 | [Ammo] | but |
| 22:10.09 | [Ammo] | there's a flaw |
| 22:10.15 | [Ammo] | when you're learning bosses |
| 22:10.17 | Tekkub | raid makeup changes |
| 22:10.18 | [Ammo] | and not getting loot |
| 22:10.26 | [Ammo] | you don't get dkp |
| 22:10.30 | [Ammo] | so even less people turn up |
| 22:10.41 | Tekkub | well honestly granting DKP if no loot is droped cause inflation |
| 22:10.48 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 22:10.50 | Tekkub | the DKP is now "worth" less |
| 22:10.51 | [Ammo] | but it's an incentive |
| 22:11.04 | Tekkub | see that makes no sense tho |
| 22:11.17 | [Ammo] | it does for 'simple' people |
| 22:11.19 | Tekkub | you're giving incentive for something that doesn't exist |
| 22:11.24 | [Ammo] | they see no points for a night |
| 22:11.28 | [Ammo] | so they don't want to come |
| 22:11.39 | Tekkub | "By coming to learn, you're more likely to get loot, that isn't going to drop" :) |
| 22:11.53 | Tekkub | I mean, it's flawed logic |
| 22:11.54 | [Ammo] | yeah but doesn't work like that for most people |
| 22:12.13 | [Ammo] | we have had major trouble getting 40 people for razorgore |
| 22:12.20 | [Ammo] | and right now we're usually overbooked on BWL raids |
| 22:12.24 | Tekkub | now I could see with SK "if you come, you'll move one higher in the list over people that don't come" |
| 22:12.25 | [Ammo] | because it's on farm and easy epix |
| 22:12.38 | Tekkub | that gives priority to players that came when the loot does drop |
| 22:12.50 | Tekkub | yea that's our MC |
| 22:12.50 | [Ammo] | that's the same with normal DKP |
| 22:12.56 | Tekkub | noone comes to BWL |
| 22:13.05 | Tekkub | I actually feel bad signing up for MC |
| 22:13.08 | [Ammo] | BWL is cake if you have 40 people willing to wipe for a night |
| 22:13.21 | [Ammo] | we wiped for 3 weeks in a row with 35 |
| 22:13.28 | [Ammo] | spent 100g each or so |
| 22:13.28 | Tekkub | I could use the stuff there... I honestly am not worthy of BWL yet, but they bring me along to fill a hole |
| 22:13.35 | Tekkub | and while I like filling holes... |
| 22:13.40 | Tekkub | it feels wrong.... |
| 22:13.56 | [Ammo] | now we're facing the same with AQ40 |
| 22:14.11 | [Ammo] | people don't want to farm natureres and can't be arsed to wipe on new bosses |
| 22:14.12 | Tekkub | *sigh* yea |
| 22:14.32 | Tekkub | I've got more NR than most of the guild I think |
| 22:14.33 | [Ammo] | it's tough being a guildofficer sometimes |
| 22:14.35 | otravi | [Ammo]: Do like we did: no dkp on any other encounter :) |
| 22:14.39 | Tekkub | I have like 35 from 3 items |
| 22:14.49 | ckknight | hey, I got FuBar to remember plugin positions |
| 22:14.50 | ckknight | shiny. |
| 22:15.02 | kergoth | note: trying to share a list of lists with embedded nils is annoying, clearing the table isnt exactly easy, at least not in 5.1 |
| 22:15.02 | Tekkub | no more crash fuckups? |
| 22:15.11 | ckknight | I got rid of that a while ago, Tekkub |
| 22:15.12 | kergoth | in 5.0 you can use getn().. |
| 22:15.13 | ckknight | upgrade. |
| 22:15.15 | Tekkub | ah :) |
| 22:15.20 | Tekkub | keg: HA HA! |
| 22:15.31 | [Ammo] | anyway, time for bed |
| 22:15.41 | Tekkub | I did, but I've not gone back in and gotten my plugins set up :) |
| 22:17.23 | kergoth | 5.1 handles table sizes differently, what with the removal of setn/getn, the addition of maxn, and the addition of # |
| 22:17.36 | kergoth | annoying, because my performance testing code requires 5.1, so i wanted code that worked in both |
| 22:17.44 | cladhaire | can't we do the select('#', table) or somethign like that? |
| 22:17.48 | ckknight | question: should I provide a default layout for people, or just have it be random? |
| 22:18.01 | ckknight | for plugin placement, I mean |
| 22:18.06 | kergoth | select() is for ... only. |
| 22:18.12 | kergoth | vararg specific |
| 22:18.14 | kergoth | not tables |
| 22:18.16 | kergoth | ... is not a table |
| 22:18.30 | kergoth | its an expression to access the lua stack |
| 22:22.41 | kergoth | cladhaire, you might get a kick out of this. i implemented a list of lists without subtables, by embedding nils in an array. http://kergoth.com/projects/wiki/wiki/Code/Lua |
| 22:30.21 | Tem | so, is 5.1 live "finished"? |
| 22:30.30 | Tem | s/live // |
| 22:31.04 | ckknight | it was released |
| 22:37.31 | Tem | hmm, so if 5.1 is live... |
| 22:37.36 | Tem | I want it in wow |
| 22:37.39 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:37.41 | Tem | time to start bugging slouken |
| 22:38.03 | ckknight | should I release FuBar 1.0? |
| 22:38.38 | Tekkub | Fire? |
| 22:39.19 | Tem | http://70.187.188.195:81/games/wow/screenshots/FireWindowTableEval.jpg |
| 22:39.56 | Tekkub | erm.... |
| 22:40.15 | Tekkub | did they try to Cosmosify... what was that addon... |
| 22:40.34 | Tem | no idea what you're talking about now |
| 22:40.41 | Tekkub | me neither |
| 22:40.49 | Tekkub | looking at that image scares me |
| 22:41.05 | Tekkub | well, trynig to understand if it is what I think it is... |
| 22:41.19 | FryGuy | Woah |
| 22:41.22 | Tekkub | okey I bite, what the fuck is that |
| 22:41.27 | FryGuy | that firewindow thing is cool :) |
| 22:41.32 | Tem | I was mostly just lamenting that I asked Iriel about his own plans to make something way better than Fire while cosmosy types were still hanging around |
| 22:41.50 | Tem | FryGuy: it's a cool idea, but they didn't do a very good job |
| 22:42.17 | Tem | (That's my nice way of saying it sorta sucks monkey balls) |
| 22:42.22 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:42.25 | Tekkub | *con(Fusion)* |
| 22:42.30 | Tem | (also requires Sea, Earch, Sky and Chornos) |
| 22:43.17 | Tekkub | wewt, got the basics of Engravings to work... now I gotta get user chat commands added |
| 22:44.03 | kergoth | Tem: my recommendation is to focus on things which arent of minor benefit. lua 5.1 gives sane vararg handling, but loses compatibility unless you enable the arg bits, and if you enable them, you're creating a table on each call anyway, and you've gained nothing. so that isnt a benefit bliz will want |
| 22:44.29 | kergoth | Tem: so, i'd advise focusing primarily on the new incremental garbage collector, and what benefits it can provide when it comes to memory usage and performance |
| 22:44.32 | kergoth | but we need numbers. |
| 22:44.49 | Tekkub | GC is always a big thing with Blizzy |
| 22:44.56 | Tekkub | (and most users that know what it is) |
| 22:45.03 | Tekkub | Milk that for all it's worth |
| 22:45.04 | kergoth | well, bliz modified the lua gc, it isnt stock 5.0 |
| 22:45.10 | ckknight | hrm |
| 22:45.10 | kergoth | not sure in what way, though |
| 22:45.29 | kergoth | any opinion on how best to handle a sane default __tostring for multiple inheritence? |
| 22:45.50 | kergoth | in the current akclass, which is the base i'm going from, the class defines the default __tostring for its subclasses and objects instantiated from it |
| 22:45.58 | kergoth | which is a cool way to go |
| 22:46.10 | ckknight | hrm |
| 22:46.12 | kergoth | but i'd have to essentially call that __tostring for each superclass in the object's __tostring method |
| 22:46.16 | kergoth | which might work,but... |
| 22:46.34 | Tekkub | well here's how I look at it... if I'm getting a visible (lets say 0.5sec) freeze on GC (which I do)... if incremental spreads that GC process out over a few minutes... no more stutter... |
| 22:46.44 | kergoth | Tekkub, right, it should smooth things out |
| 22:46.46 | kergoth | less spikes |
| 22:46.48 | ckknight | you only get 0.5sec? |
| 22:46.52 | ckknight | I've gotten like 15 seconds |
| 22:47.03 | ckknight | it sucks big time when I'm holding the flag, too |
| 22:47.04 | Tekkub | I can't measure it Boss, I just asspulled that number |
| 22:47.13 | ckknight | yea, yea |
| 22:47.35 | kergoth | i know what i'll do. at class creation time, itll create an __tostring for objects which is "Instance of classes Foo, Bar, Baz." |
| 22:47.37 | Tekkub | I'd guess that on average they're less than a second.. tho lately I've gotten some nasty one |
| 22:47.40 | kergoth | assuming those are its superclass |
| 22:47.41 | kergoth | es |
| 22:48.02 | Tekkub | GCing 10MiB takes a good 2-3 sec for me these days |
| 22:48.20 | kergoth | hmm |
| 22:48.27 | Tekkub | I honestly think performance on the whole decreased this patch |
| 22:48.52 | Tekkub | but hopefully as more and more frames become dynamicly created that'll get better |
| 22:49.07 | Tekkub | too bad I' can't change 100% of my frames though |
| 22:50.51 | kergoth | hrm |
| 22:52.09 | Tem | kergoth: do you have a toon that can post on the UI forum? |
| 22:52.18 | Tekkub | Engravings is up for anyone that wants to try it :) |
| 22:52.33 | Tekkub | no slash command yet tho |
| 22:52.48 | Tekkub | will fix that later, it's crappy dinnertime |
| 22:52.58 | Tem | kergoth: can you do me a huge favor? |
| 22:53.12 | Tem | kergoth: make a post on the US UI forum requesting 5.1 |
| 22:53.19 | Tem | kergoth: you know how it will help WAY more than I do |
| 23:05.07 | ckknight | what is Engravings? |
| 23:06.35 | kergoth | Tem: okay, but we need numbers first. I want to post with actual evidence of the benefit, not some ethereal description of the changes. |
| 23:08.25 | ckknight | I get a good feeling when I see FuBar in other people's screenshots :-) |
| 23:09.08 | otravi | ckknight: yeah, that feeling is nice :) |
| 23:09.19 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:10.15 | otravi | can someone please transelate this for me? "u no possom dnt u" |
| 23:10.32 | otravi | It's english... I think |
| 23:11.16 | ckknight | You know Possom don't you? |
| 23:11.34 | ckknight | or.. |
| 23:11.46 | ckknight | You're no Possom, don't you? |
| 23:11.56 | ckknight | which makes less sense |
| 23:12.07 | otravi | *asks* |
| 23:12.37 | otravi | aaw, someone just killed my favorite kow :( |
| 23:12.44 | ckknight | ? |
| 23:12.53 | otravi | Kaja, in orgrimmar :D |
| 23:15.36 | ckknight | Tekkub, I need you |
| 23:17.51 | ckknight | In Metrognome, would you be at all inclined to do a slight nondestructive API change? |
| 23:18.27 | weab | groan |
| 23:18.32 | ckknight | specifically, I need the time lapsed sent to the function |
| 23:18.35 | weab | terrible terrible name |
| 23:18.41 | ckknight | yea, yea |
| 23:18.46 | ckknight | gnomes suck |
| 23:21.32 | ckknight | http://ace.pastebin.com/650392 |
| 23:21.42 | ckknight | take a look at that, Tekkub |
| 23:51.42 | TheFly| | I'd say looks better |
| 23:52.04 | TheFly| | depends on what you're doing though |
| 23:52.28 | ckknight | what are you referring to? |
| 23:53.13 | TheFly| | I mean the user just want's a regular updatecall they don't need to know elapsed. |
| 23:53.25 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:53.33 | ckknight | so they can just not have the arg |
| 23:53.38 | ckknight | and forget about it |
| 23:53.57 | ckknight | it's a nondestructive API change, so all the old code will work with it fine |
| 23:54.12 | TheFly| | seems to work |
| 23:54.42 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:54.53 | ckknight | I just can't include it in FuBar unless that part is in there |
| 23:55.42 | TheFly| | can't you include the new ver there ? |
| 23:56.28 | ckknight | no, because it's an embedded shared library, if Tekkub releases a new version, someone includes that in their project, that API will take over |
| 23:56.36 | ckknight | and thus I lose the elapsed time |
| 23:56.43 | ckknight | so I need it to be merged upstream |
| 23:57.05 | TheFly| | can I ask, what is v.arg? |
| 23:57.24 | ckknight | it's the arg you provide |
| 23:57.41 | ckknight | optional |
