| 00:00.35 | kergoth | ckknight: having the ipairs iter is most useful if you want to start at a specific index, imo. for k,v in ipairs,t,1 would start at index 2 rather than 1 (its 0 indexed for some odd reason) |
| 00:00.52 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:01.10 | ckknight | kergoth, it's not that it's 0 indexed, it's nil indexed |
| 00:01.18 | ckknight | you feed in the previous state |
| 00:01.22 | ckknight | not the next state |
| 00:01.37 | ckknight | so for k,v in ipairs,t,nil do is the default way |
| 00:01.45 | ckknight | cause nil is the start, the next one is 1 |
| 00:01.45 | kergoth | no, it isnt. |
| 00:01.48 | kergoth | > print(ipairs({})) |
| 00:01.51 | kergoth | function: 0x806b370 table: 0x8092110 0 |
| 00:01.55 | ckknight | wtf? |
| 00:01.58 | ckknight | weird. |
| 00:02.06 | kergoth | you can pick whatever starting value for the control var you want |
| 00:02.07 | ckknight | makes sense, though |
| 00:02.08 | kergoth | it neednt be nil |
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| 00:07.37 | kergoth | ckknight: but yeah, thats a good point. i forgot that its the previous value, not the one its about to be. 0 makes perfect sense in that case then |
| 00:07.46 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:11.24 | Tekkub | hrm... warmup needs fixed up if the user settings are to work correctly |
| 00:11.36 | Tekkub | I never wanted to put that shit in in the first place :P |
| 00:11.46 | Tekkub | I'm half tempted to take it out |
| 00:11.51 | hyperChipmunk | I don't want user settings =P |
| 00:12.02 | hyperChipmunk | I just want a freaking list fo my addons |
| 00:12.07 | Tekkub | I didn't either, I wanted "it just works" |
| 00:12.18 | hyperChipmunk | I don't think I ever touched the defaults |
| 00:12.23 | Tekkub | I'm very tempted to rewove them.... |
| 00:12.51 | Tekkub | I mean, dump basic summary to combat log... otherwise use /wu to get info |
| 00:13.08 | hyperChipmunk | what settings did it have? |
| 00:13.18 | Tekkub | think I'll remove the GC notices too, FuBar Perf can report those can't it? |
| 00:14.00 | Tekkub | on/off stuff for the event counts, setting which chatframe to dump to, on/off for printing addon info to the chat frames.... |
| 00:14.06 | Tekkub | yea fuck all that |
| 00:16.08 | hyperChipmunk | it can |
| 00:16.17 | hyperChipmunk | all i want is that nice /wu window =) |
| 00:16.39 | hyperChipmunk | the one tat tells me which addons suck |
| 00:18.12 | kergoth | i want sorting for the /wu window :P |
| 00:18.18 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 00:18.54 | hyperChipmunk | it should heal my group automatically in raids too |
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| 00:28.23 | Tekkub | screw sorting :P |
| 00:32.21 | kergoth | i just want to see it in order of suckiness, dangit |
| 00:32.26 | kergoth | i'll patch it locally :) |
| 00:34.14 | kergoth | or alphabetical, to check the usage of a specific addon.. maybe i'll have that as a chat command |
| 00:34.27 | kergoth | or kill the ui and just have a variable that i manually set :P |
| 00:39.36 | cladhaire | can anyone get to svn.wowace.com? |
| 00:39.47 | ckknight | what does this error mean: too many upvalues (limit 32) |
| 00:39.48 | cladhaire | my i-net connectino at home blows right now. |
| 00:39.56 | cladhaire | ckknight: You have a closure with too many upvalues =) |
| 00:40.07 | ckknight | what's an upvalue? |
| 00:40.23 | ckknight | Tekkub, PerformanceFu can warn you on GC |
| 00:40.28 | cladhaire | A value that exists in the scoping a level up from your function |
| 00:40.48 | cladhaire | for example local i = 1 return function() return i= i + 1 end |
| 00:40.53 | cladhaire | i is an upvalue in that case |
| 00:41.12 | ckknight | ah, crap |
| 00:41.14 | cladhaire | because it exists in the scope "up" from the scope of the function itself |
| 00:43.44 | Tekkub | I'm gonna have to write up some sort of menu registrar embeddable to replace ModMenu I think :) |
| 00:43.58 | Tekkub | yea, I'm gonna, I like that idea |
| 00:47.56 | kergoth | cladhaire: heh, kinda too bad theres no way to create a do end block thats independent of parent scope. could be useful at times, since niling out a local doesnt prevent it from being bound.. its the slot thats bound, not the value :\ |
| 00:49.21 | kergoth | oh, take a look at http://covenant.kergoth.com/projects/wow/wiki/Code/NewOOModel .. thats me playing with a new architecture. i think itll make the implementation much more comprehensible |
| 00:52.47 | cladhaire | Ok |
| 00:52.48 | cladhaire | =) |
| 00:52.51 | cladhaire | i'll try to look |
| 00:52.57 | cladhaire | brb |
| 00:53.27 | kergoth | its only one short paragraph :) not nearly fully hashed out |
| 00:54.28 | FryGuy | svn.wowace.com down? |
| 00:56.22 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: how is that one diff than the other one you put up earlier today? |
| 00:57.32 | kergoth | its the same other than minor alterations, but i dont think clad took a look |
| 01:14.21 | cladhaire | FryGuy: Yes, it appears that box is down.. perhaps they're making the changes I need =) |
| 01:14.29 | cladhaire | FryGuy: Sorry =( |
| 01:19.04 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:19.05 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:19.06 | cladhaire | lol |
| 01:21.03 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: thanks |
| 01:21.49 | Tem | can someone do me a favor? |
| 01:21.51 | cladhaire | o hai Tem |
| 01:21.55 | cladhaire | Tem: Certainly |
| 01:21.57 | Tem | ni hao |
| 01:22.18 | Tem | respond to this comment on Catalyst |
| 01:22.23 | Tem | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4827 |
| 01:22.23 | hyperChipmunk | sure thing pal |
| 01:22.26 | kergoth | Tekkub: good post on ace 2.0, those are some good modules to be written |
| 01:22.30 | Tem | only one needs to do it |
| 01:22.38 | cladhaire | i got it. |
| 01:23.59 | Tem | I have a feeling that if I open a comment box to respond, I will be unable to type anything other than "Fuck no" |
| 01:24.27 | Tem | I have a problem with being nice... |
| 01:24.40 | Tekkub | yea, I think I'm gonna tackle some sort of menu registrar |
| 01:24.46 | hyperChipmunk | Tem: I respon--doh =) |
| 01:24.58 | hyperChipmunk | Yes, absolutely it makes them obsolete. Catalyst is all you need. |
| 01:25.05 | kergoth | Tekkub: well given your modmenu work, you're probably the best candidate for that one :) |
| 01:25.05 | hyperChipmunk | -hC |
| 01:25.08 | Tem | thanks |
| 01:25.21 | Tekkub | it'd be quite similar to ModMenu, except it's up to the addon to provide the menu function and the category, I won't be storing menus for every addon out there |
| 01:25.32 | Tem | Tekkub: I had fun gloating about WarmUp and us knowing about the zoning events last night |
| 01:25.46 | Tekkub | Tem... *scrolls up* |
| 01:25.52 | Tem | Tekkub: that Miravlix guy that I can't stand said something like this was "new info" |
| 01:25.56 | kergoth | Tekkub: we're likely going to need to spawn off a number of independent threads on the modules. profiles and localization are both going to need brainstorming for themselves |
| 01:25.59 | Tekkub | <Tekkub> can I say it? |
| 01:25.59 | Tekkub | <Tekkub> please please please can I say it? |
| 01:25.59 | Tekkub | <Tekkub> WarmUp: Date of original submission: November 26th, 2005 .... I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:26.29 | Tem | Tekkub: my response to him was "Oh please, the event issue has been common knowledge for months" |
| 01:26.33 | cladhaire | That okay Tem? |
| 01:26.36 | Tekkub | I've got some serious ideas for localization |
| 01:26.43 | Codayus | heh |
| 01:26.55 | Tekkub | basically you'd declare a function that returns a locale table... |
| 01:27.00 | Codayus | that would have been a fun smackdown to watch. |
| 01:27.15 | Tekkub | then do MyAddonName:RegisterLocale(func, "deDE") or such |
| 01:27.33 | Tem | Tekkub: I saw your prevsious thing |
| 01:27.46 | kergoth | and registerlocale throws them out if you arent in that language, letting them get gc'd? |
| 01:27.58 | Tekkub | then in Init ace would call that and set MyAddonName.locale to the table returned |
| 01:27.59 | kergoth | bleh, headache |
| 01:28.07 | Tekkub | no kerg |
| 01:28.24 | Tekkub | the table never gets created if the function's not called |
| 01:28.33 | Tem | Tekkub: then his response to that was something like "Well, none of the Cosmos Devs knew anything about it until last week" *snicker* |
| 01:28.47 | Tekkub | wel SUCKS TO BE COSMOS |
| 01:28.48 | Tem | thanks cladhaire and hyperChipmunk |
| 01:28.51 | kergoth | yes, i know. my question was about the lifetime of the function objects, not of the tables they create |
| 01:29.00 | kergoth | since the machine wont be changing locales on the fly |
| 01:29.04 | Tem | Tekkub: then I pointed him to your thread posted in November |
| 01:29.08 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:29.10 | Tekkub | they could be GC'd, sure... hrm... |
| 01:29.40 | kergoth | course functions are pretty damn small in compiled form, its a damn efficient form of compression. but still, if they arent gonna be used, no point keeping them around |
| 01:29.40 | Tekkub | is the function really that big? |
| 01:29.53 | Tekkub | I have no clue the memory hit for functions |
| 01:30.04 | kergoth | its really low regardless of content, i was testing for ckknight the other day |
| 01:30.11 | cladhaire | Tekkub: I plan to own AceEvent, AceHook, AceDebug and anything else that someone can give me a clear API for |
| 01:30.13 | Tekkub | so fine, GC them when done |
| 01:30.27 | cladhaire | Beyond that, I just want to make sure the class declarations and overall architecture go where they need |
| 01:30.28 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:30.29 | Tekkub | one request for AceDebug! |
| 01:30.31 | cladhaire | AceLibrary as well |
| 01:31.02 | cladhaire | I asked kael for an Ace 2.0 Discussino forum. |
| 01:31.03 | Tekkub | self:debug("this is a %s %s %s", "string.format", "style", "function") |
| 01:31.08 | cladhaire | I'd still like to see it. |
| 01:31.39 | cladhaire | Tekkub: Wrapped in a tostring() so we can just pass raw values to it as well.. yeppers =) |
| 01:32.06 | cladhaire | along with actually using the stack trace we have available.. not that i've used it at all |
| 01:32.24 | Tekkub | :) well 90% of my dubusg are a string.format... if we did that the string.format call wouldn't happen unless debug was turned on |
| 01:32.30 | kergoth | i'll probably code up a number of random libraries/modules. implementations of a generically useful stack/queue structure, the object model itself, a number of tools for inspection / monitoring for development... what else do i have laying around |
| 01:32.51 | Tekkub | :) yea kerg |
| 01:33.00 | cladhaire | Kergoth: *nod* most of that would be optional and not in the core itself.. but having them is HUGE |
| 01:33.00 | Tekkub | *hrm* IDEA! |
| 01:33.27 | kergoth | lots of small utilities from the stdlib i use. enhancements to the math.* functions, enhancements to the string.* functions |
| 01:33.42 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 01:33.43 | kergoth | collections of useful metatable bits, like making a table memoize, or changing the default to something other than nil.. |
| 01:33.49 | Tekkub | Ace User Release: just has Ace in it.... Ace Dev Packace: Ace, AceDebug, collection of embeddable libraries (Compost, Babble, Metro...) |
| 01:33.59 | cladhaire | *shake* |
| 01:34.05 | cladhaire | AceDebug is in the standard library |
| 01:34.07 | cladhaire | its stupid for it not to be. |
| 01:34.11 | cladhaire | but yes, |
| 01:34.13 | Tekkub | :) |
| 01:34.16 | cladhaire | I was thinking a /lib directory |
| 01:34.22 | Tekkub | but yea, an embed pack for authors |
| 01:34.25 | cladhaire | or something like that |
| 01:34.26 | cladhaire | aye |
| 01:34.34 | cladhaire | AceLibraries maybe? =) |
| 01:34.53 | Tekkub | hrm.... |
| 01:34.59 | Tekkub | *ponders name* |
| 01:35.12 | cladhaire | no special name =) |
| 01:35.24 | Tekkub | well when I worked at the library, all the rows of books were refered to as the "stacks" |
| 01:35.33 | Tekkub | but that might confuse devs |
| 01:35.35 | cladhaire | veto =) |
| 01:35.37 | kergoth | stack means too many different things |
| 01:35.37 | cladhaire | AceDevPack |
| 01:35.39 | cladhaire | AceLibraries. |
| 01:35.44 | cladhaire | you get like three options =) |
| 01:35.49 | cladhaire | multiple choice =) |
| 01:36.11 | Tekkub | *hrm* |
| 01:36.18 | Tekkub | Dealer? |
| 01:36.23 | cladhaire | Veto. |
| 01:36.30 | Tekkub | *thinks casinos and cards...* |
| 01:36.33 | cladhaire | Veto |
| 01:36.39 | cladhaire | I veto your THINKING my friend =0 |
| 01:36.47 | banditron | AceSammlung |
| 01:36.53 | Tekkub | I veto your mom |
| 01:37.02 | Tekkub | Acebrary? |
| 01:37.08 | cladhaire | AceLibrary =) |
| 01:37.13 | cladhaire | AceDevPack =) |
| 01:37.21 | Tekkub | AcePeriodicals? |
| 01:37.36 | hyperChipmunk | AceChipperRules |
| 01:37.39 | banditron | AceEmbededLibrariesForWowAddons |
| 01:37.40 | Tekkub | oh oh oh |
| 01:37.50 | Tekkub | "Special Collection" |
| 01:37.52 | cladhaire | only stable releases make it into AceLibrary.. we won't do the Boss method of updating 19,000 addons and releasing the dev back over and over and over again |
| 01:37.56 | cladhaire | *shuder* |
| 01:38.01 | cladhaire | s/ud/udd/ |
| 01:38.06 | Tekkub | you know, the books locked up upstairs that can't leave the building |
| 01:38.07 | banditron | what's AceLibrary? |
| 01:38.13 | cladhaire | CladLikesBoys? |
| 01:38.33 | cladhaire | banditron: A collection of embeddable libraries, such as MetroGnome, Compost, AceHook, AceEvent, etc. |
| 01:38.44 | Tekkub | AceInBed |
| 01:38.48 | Tekkub | *grin* |
| 01:39.05 | kergoth | hmm, you know whatd be useful, is a version of assert() that takes a number to pass on to error() for the stack level, and which accepts string.format style arguments |
| 01:39.45 | Tekkub | I like AceInBed |
| 01:40.25 | AceInBed | ~flirt Tekkub |
| 01:40.33 | Tekkub | *eyeroll* |
| 01:41.08 | Tekkub | "Ace, it's like a fortuine cookie... it gets better if you add 'in bed' at the end" |
| 01:41.20 | cladhaire | So thats why Miravlix bothers me |
| 01:41.26 | cladhaire | Tekkub: I think i might vomit. |
| 01:41.28 | kergoth | the math ones are quite useful. a math.log() which accepts the base for the second argument, and a math.round and math.floor which accept a # of decimal places to truncate at |
| 01:41.33 | Tekkub | what? |
| 01:41.39 | cladhaire | Tekkub: What what? |
| 01:41.54 | Tekkub|Sleep | ~ponder |
| 01:41.55 | purl | Uh... yeah, tekkub|sleep, but where are we going to find rubber pants our size? |
| 01:41.56 | Tekkub | why you vomit on me? |
| 01:42.01 | Tekkub|Sleep | I dont think Tekkub looks good on me |
| 01:42.06 | Tekkub | I'm not big evnough to hit your gag reflex |
| 01:42.12 | cladhaire | Tekkub: Haha hahaha hahahah hahaha |
| 01:42.13 | cladhaire | no on is. |
| 01:42.16 | cladhaire | s/on/one/ |
| 01:42.17 | cladhaire | i mean. |
| 01:42.21 | cladhaire | So. |
| 01:42.25 | cladhaire | AceDevPack? |
| 01:42.28 | Tekkub | oh so you don't got one :) |
| 01:42.29 | cladhaire | AceLibraries? |
| 01:42.32 | kergoth | what the.. |
| 01:42.37 | kergoth | there's a tokenizing parser in stdlib |
| 01:42.40 | kergoth | i never noticed taht |
| 01:42.41 | Tekkub | bleh, those are too bland |
| 01:42.43 | banditron | libraries sounds good to me |
| 01:42.44 | cladhaire | I have one, but i did have my tonsils removed for medical reasons |
| 01:42.47 | kergoth | so who wants to add a custom language to their addon? :P |
| 01:42.56 | Tekkub | AceDeck (as in pack of cards) |
| 01:43.01 | cladhaire | kergoth: There could deifnitely be some cool stuff. |
| 01:43.18 | cladhaire | Tekkub: The more obscure it is.. the less authors will use it. |
| 01:43.22 | kergoth | an implemetnation of a Set object, with union, intersection, etc.. |
| 01:43.27 | cladhaire | Tekkub: ZOMGFIXMYLOADTIMES will sadly get more hits than Catalyst |
| 01:43.32 | Tekkub | AceDevDeck |
| 01:43.47 | banditron | it's not just for developers tho |
| 01:43.54 | banditron | it's not a debug tool |
| 01:44.04 | Tekkub | the embed libs are for devs |
| 01:44.27 | banditron | i think it should be straight forward |
| 01:44.29 | kergoth | addons include the libs, they arent for independent use unless a dev advises you to install one to fix a bug |
| 01:44.37 | banditron | so serious devs feel serious about it |
| 01:44.38 | *** join/#wowace ag` (n=Andreas@0x50c4844b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk) |
| 01:45.11 | Tain | Ok, new VisorButtons for testing that allows you to ignore the ACTIONBAR_PAGE_CHANGED events, no more buttons changing on SHIFT-1, etc. if you don't want. |
| 01:45.18 | hyperChipmunk | YES |
| 01:46.24 | Tain | Posted just on wowace for now to solicit feedback and make sure I didn't break anything. |
| 01:46.58 | kergoth | a parser for boolean strings could be useful for powerusers customizing conditionals. this AND that OR (foo AND bar) |
| 01:47.06 | kergoth | was gonna write one a while ago, never got around to it |
| 01:48.48 | banditron | AceBase |
| 01:48.57 | cladhaire | AceOfBass =) |
| 01:49.03 | Tain | I wrote a rather ugly addon to Visor's reporting to allow for searching for keywords and also excluding results by keyword. |
| 01:51.17 | banditron | what's the IP for svn.wowace.com ? |
| 01:51.29 | cladhaire | its down at the moment. |
| 01:51.39 | cladhaire | half my ISP's servers went down, SVN being one of them |
| 01:51.40 | banditron | ah. k nm. dns finally move tho? |
| 01:51.51 | cladhaire | yeah, it didn't move correctly-- but it did move. |
| 01:52.07 | cladhaire | Kaelten is avoiding me =( |
| 01:52.18 | cladhaire | Kaelten|sleep: KAEL EMAIL ME AT CLADHAIRE@GMAIL.COM ZOMG |
| 01:52.20 | cladhaire | ~memo |
| 01:52.24 | cladhaire | ~lick Kaelten|sleep |
| 01:52.26 | purl | ACTION licks Kaelten|sleep *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 01:56.28 | Tem | cladhaire: what finaly hit you about Miravlix that made you realize what you dislike about him? |
| 01:56.48 | cladhaire | Tem: The obsession with Sea and Cosmos. |
| 01:56.59 | cladhaire | Its always like the win32 API developers sitting around and admiring their work. |
| 01:57.02 | Tem | he's a cosmos dev I believe |
| 01:57.06 | cladhaire | yeah i just caught that =) |
| 01:57.16 | cladhaire | I admit that half the shit in Ace is shit.. and don't preach about any of it. |
| 01:57.19 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 01:57.46 | cladhaire | but i'm here for different reasons than most people |
| 01:57.48 | Tem | I find it kind of funny that I couldn't stand him /before/ I knew he was a cosmos dev |
| 01:57.50 | Tekkub | libraries are crap if you don't use them |
| 01:57.52 | cladhaire | omg i know |
| 01:58.06 | Tekkub | if you put more time into library dev than actual program dev.... |
| 01:58.32 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 01:58.33 | Tain | I didn't know he was a Cosmos dev until you just said it. |
| 01:58.36 | cladhaire | i'd make libraries all day long. |
| 01:58.39 | cladhaire | all day long |
| 01:58.41 | cladhaire | but people use them =) |
| 01:58.48 | Tekkub | yea I know :) |
| 01:58.48 | cladhaire | its not just more proof of concept code for myself. |
| 01:59.23 | Tekkub | Ace2 is gonna drop the myaddons support right? that a bit pain in my ass :) |
| 01:59.49 | cladhaire | I dont think we need it |
| 01:59.54 | ckknight | alright |
| 01:59.58 | ckknight | I have made TouristLib |
| 02:00.01 | cladhaire | the ace slash command system, and the options system you write will supercede it. |
| 02:00.02 | ckknight | it's shiny |
| 02:03.38 | hyperChipmunk | does it heal my raid group? |
| 02:04.11 | cladhaire | I heal your raid group |
| 02:04.16 | cladhaire | just get me a server transfer |
| 02:04.41 | ckknight | not quite, hyperChipmunk |
| 02:05.38 | hyperChipmunk | oh then why should I use your addon |
| 02:05.49 | hyperChipmunk | does it at least decurse them? |
| 02:10.28 | hyperChipmunk | boss, how do I turn on real error messages? |
| 02:10.47 | hyperChipmunk | all I get now is FuBar: Error loading LoadOnDemand plugin FuBar_BattlegroundFu |
| 02:10.53 | hyperChipmunk | while that's rather nice and pretty and all |
| 02:11.00 | hyperChipmunk | it makes it a bit tough to debug |
| 02:11.36 | Tem | good lord I can't stand that guy |
| 02:12.11 | Cairenn | I know |
| 02:12.16 | Cairenn | he's annoying *everyone* |
| 02:12.19 | hyperChipmunk | who, boss? yea, that guy really gets on my nerves |
| 02:12.36 | Cairenn | *Iriel* was bitching about him the other day! **Iriel** |
| 02:12.44 | Tem | wow |
| 02:12.56 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 02:12.58 | Tem | well there was that one time he refused to believe Iriel |
| 02:12.59 | cladhaire | =) |
| 02:13.11 | Tem | when it was clear to the rest of the channel that Iriel was right |
| 02:13.23 | Tem | (which is seldom not the case) |
| 02:14.59 | cladhaire | i had the most confusing conversation with Iriel tonight |
| 02:15.05 | Tem | oh? |
| 02:15.08 | cladhaire | there was a fundamental misunderstanding.. so it all worked out =) |
| 02:15.16 | cladhaire | He didn't understand the relationship i had defined. |
| 02:15.26 | hyperChipmunk | he not into that sort of thing? |
| 02:15.35 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:15.38 | cladhaire | =) |
| 02:15.39 | Tain | Hey relationships are tricky! |
| 02:15.42 | cladhaire | he wanted in *wink* |
| 02:16.05 | ckknight | ... |
| 02:16.20 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, damn |
| 02:16.24 | cladhaire | ~lick ckknight |
| 02:16.25 | purl | ACTION licks ckknight *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 02:17.52 | hyperChipmunk | svn is back! |
| 02:18.02 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, I'll figure out a way to show error messages |
| 02:18.23 | hyperChipmunk | just give it a debug switch |
| 02:18.29 | hyperChipmunk | to disable whatever the blocking code is |
| 02:18.49 | hyperChipmunk | and let the errors flow normally |
| 02:18.56 | hyperChipmunk | cuz it really sux to not have them |
| 02:19.14 | hyperChipmunk | a human LUA interpreter I am not =) |
| 02:22.57 | ckknight | it's not there's blocking code |
| 02:23.05 | ckknight | not for that deal |
| 02:23.20 | ckknight | if I don't put a warning in, it's like nothing happened at all |
| 02:23.31 | ckknight | but hang on |
| 02:23.36 | ckknight | I'm gonna commit one with more info |
| 02:23.38 | ckknight | maybe |
| 02:25.17 | Tekkub | hrm... wow go down the hole? |
| 02:25.21 | Tekkub | *WoWI |
| 02:25.41 | ckknight | okay |
| 02:25.42 | ckknight | committed |
| 02:26.46 | *** join/#wowace Wobin_ (n=Wobin@221.221.27.167) |
| 02:28.15 | Cairenn | Tekkub: nope, we're up and running just fine |
| 02:28.39 | Tekkub | I can't connect >< |
| 02:28.46 | cladhaire | svn is back up from maintenance.. thanks HC |
| 02:28.49 | Tekkub | get me a link to catalyst will ya? |
| 02:28.57 | Tekkub | demanding my guild install it :) |
| 02:29.32 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com/Test/trunk/Catalyst |
| 02:29.34 | cladhaire | =) |
| 02:29.40 | cladhaire | re-zip it =) |
| 02:29.59 | Tekkub | that works I guess... they're you usual tards tho so I get to splain tarballs... joy... |
| 02:30.08 | cladhaire | dont |
| 02:30.12 | cladhaire | re-zip it =) |
| 02:30.13 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 02:30.19 | Tekkub | I don't have upload access to the forum I don't think.... *tests* |
| 02:30.38 | Tekkub | nope |
| 02:30.40 | Tekkub | bah |
| 02:30.50 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4827 |
| 02:31.15 | Tekkub | hrm... my portal loads but not the WoWI home.. odd |
| 02:31.21 | Tekkub | thanks cair |
| 02:31.28 | Cairenn | welcome |
| 02:43.45 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 02:43.53 | Wobin_ | LotR? |
| 02:45.11 | Wobin_ | hm, I think there needs to be a "Needs ace" link |
| 02:45.15 | Wobin_ | er note |
| 02:45.18 | Wobin_ | for Catalyst |
| 02:46.58 | Tekkub | probably wobbler |
| 02:51.04 | *** join/#wowace Warol (n=Warol@adsl-75-5-43-183.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:51.44 | Tekkub | *ponder* hey Tem.... |
| 02:52.28 | Tekkub | will you exclude hooking WarmupFrame's event handler in Catalyst please? |
| 02:53.00 | Tekkub | it would kinda break the whole reason WarmUp monitors events during zone, you know ^^ |
| 02:55.41 | Tem | oh lol |
| 02:55.47 | Tem | I hadn't thought of that |
| 02:56.51 | Tem | is it WarmupFrame? |
| 02:57.37 | Tem | oh, Cairenn did you point Dolby toward my mystery upload? |
| 02:57.49 | Cairenn | ugh, no, I forgot, sorry |
| 02:58.04 | Tem | Cairenn: today when I added Catalyst, I saw it went up to 9 so it's still 1 more than I can account for |
| 02:58.12 | Tem | it's no problem |
| 02:58.12 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 02:58.18 | Tem | I'm just really curious what the deal is |
| 02:58.32 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 02:59.00 | Tem | Tekkub: is the frame named "WarmupFrame"? |
| 02:59.59 | *** part/#wowace Warol (n=Warol@adsl-75-5-43-183.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:00.55 | Tekkub | yes |
| 03:01.31 | Tekkub | interesting statistic! |
| 03:01.54 | Tekkub | randomly triggered GC on my system: 0.161 sec time |
| 03:02.02 | Tekkub | *grin* |
| 03:02.20 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:06.54 | Tem | .86s |
| 03:07.15 | *** join/#wowace Vanish (n=vanish@12-216-132-66.client.mchsi.com) |
| 03:08.46 | Tem | okie Tekkub |
| 03:08.50 | Tem | commiting new version |
| 03:09.41 | Tem | actually... |
| 03:09.51 | Tem | I'm going to make it easier to expand on this later... |
| 03:10.06 | Tem | in case there are other frames that deserve to be left alone |
| 03:11.48 | Tem | nah, fuck it |
| 03:12.54 | clad|sleep | you know.. i completely didn't realize peopel wouldn't know what a tarball was. |
| 03:13.00 | clad|sleep | didn't think about it. |
| 03:14.21 | Tekkub | zip downloads! |
| 03:14.30 | Tekkub | fuck with em, make em rars |
| 03:14.40 | Tekkub | I like rars *rawr* |
| 03:15.12 | ckknight | svn://ckknight.hopto.org/TouristLib |
| 03:15.21 | ckknight | anyone want to take a look at that, tell me what they think? |
| 03:15.47 | Tekkub | bossman, any chance you can make FuBar call StayBetweenTheLines on the menu frames when they're shown? I sometimes get ModMenu ones running off screen |
| 03:16.36 | Tekkub | actually, that would accodate for dual-mon for you as well, then you wouldn't need to do it in your code |
| 03:16.58 | clad|sleep | looks pretty clean boss |
| 03:17.05 | FryGuy | otravi: you here? |
| 03:17.41 | ckknight | hrm, Tekkub |
| 03:17.49 | clad|sleep | ok i'm really off to bed now. |
| 03:17.52 | ckknight | StayBetweenTheLines is embedded, right? |
| 03:18.36 | *** join/#wowace kergoth_ (n=kergoth@12.44.147.155) |
| 03:18.52 | ckknight | slowly buy surely, I'll replace most of FuBar with libraries |
| 03:19.08 | FryGuy | how will that work with savedvariables? |
| 03:19.28 | ckknight | SavedVariables are a problem |
| 03:19.39 | ckknight | but I did find a way to deal with them in embedded libraries |
| 03:19.50 | ckknight | the downside is that it saves it in multiple places |
| 03:20.12 | Tem | clad|sleep: wwwaaait! |
| 03:20.17 | Tem | clad|sleep: you still here? |
| 03:20.20 | ckknight | basically, you have the variable in your toc |
| 03:20.24 | ckknight | and can be in multiple places |
| 03:20.31 | Tekkub | boss, yes lines is an embed |
| 03:20.51 | ckknight | then when you load your embedded lib instance, you check to see if the variable is not the one you have |
| 03:20.53 | FryGuy | seems like when you delete the "master" addon, the savedvariables will change |
| 03:20.55 | Tem | damnit Tekkub |
| 03:20.56 | Tekkub | hrm, is wob around |
| 03:20.57 | ckknight | if it isn't, do an intelligent embed |
| 03:21.01 | Tem | you made me update Catalyst |
| 03:21.02 | Wobin_ | yus |
| 03:21.05 | Tem | so I missed clad |
| 03:21.06 | ckknight | FryGuy, that's not so |
| 03:21.12 | ckknight | because it's saved in multiple places |
| 03:21.17 | ckknight | the most recent one will be used on your machine |
| 03:21.19 | FryGuy | either that, or duplicate every saved variable each place |
| 03:21.21 | Tekkub | you know MrPlow is swapping like stack when it sorts? |
| 03:21.23 | FryGuy | hmm |
| 03:21.27 | FryGuy | i guess |
| 03:21.29 | Tekkub | like two 200 stacks of ammo it'll swap |
| 03:21.38 | ckknight | FryGuy, it duplicates it |
| 03:21.43 | FryGuy | when you do a = b = { }, only one copy of the table is saved in memory right? |
| 03:21.44 | Wobin_ | yeah, cause it can't identify between the two |
| 03:21.47 | Tekkub | you should compare the two slots, if they're exactly alike skip it :) |
| 03:21.54 | ckknight | right, FryGuy |
| 03:21.56 | Wobin_ | The actual comparison comes later |
| 03:21.59 | FryGuy | so i guess that's fine |
| 03:22.10 | FryGuy | could save the time it's saved |
| 03:22.15 | FryGuy | as a key |
| 03:22.17 | ckknight | yea, you have to |
| 03:22.21 | FryGuy | and only load the most recent one |
| 03:22.22 | Tekkub | you can't compare just before the swap? if they're same skip to the next? |
| 03:22.23 | ckknight | then take the most recent |
| 03:22.28 | FryGuy | then set all the others to a copy |
| 03:22.30 | ckknight | I've done this as a test, FryGuy |
| 03:22.37 | FryGuy | good lad :) |
| 03:22.43 | Wobin_ | I'd then have to check if the stacksize is the same too |
| 03:22.52 | Tekkub | o/~ sail away sail away sail away o/~ |
| 03:22.54 | Wobin_ | And I've already done that =P |
| 03:23.10 | ckknight | I'm likely to split up all my plugins into two separate parts: a data/library part, and a display/representation part |
| 03:23.23 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 03:23.26 | ckknight | the display will use the FuBar interface |
| 03:23.38 | ckknight | but someone could take the library and use it somewhere else |
| 03:24.11 | Wobin_ | At the point of 'movement' the addon doesn't actually know what it's moving |
| 03:24.18 | Wobin_ | beh |
| 03:24.20 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=Tekk@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net) |
| 03:24.24 | Wobin_ | re =P |
| 03:24.27 | Wobin_ | At the point of 'movement' the addon doesn't actually know what it's moving |
| 03:24.30 | Tekkub | hell, you could make an ammo-specific sort that just pushes the partial to the top of the ammo bag |
| 03:24.45 | Tekkub | I don't need the rest of my bags sorted, enginv :) |
| 03:24.46 | Wobin_ | it's just shifting 'stuff' from one position to another |
| 03:25.03 | *** join/#wowace Slayman (i=Slayman@c135234.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 03:25.16 | Wobin_ | All the sorting is done well before any movement is made |
| 03:25.21 | Tekkub | I vote for an ammo sort :) |
| 03:25.36 | Tekkub | simple, push the partial stack to the top of the ammo bag |
| 03:28.24 | Tekkub | my friends list is empty.... that's not a good sign.... |
| 03:43.05 | kergoth_ | what was that modified version of nurfed combat log again? Wobin_? was it you talking about it? |
| 03:43.40 | Cairenn | the original was HitsMode on CG |
| 03:47.31 | kergoth_ | yeah, someone here was talking about someone who improved nurfed combat log's performance |
| 03:47.37 | kergoth_ | cant remember the name of the person that did it though |
| 03:49.06 | otravi | 00:36 [ Mikma] ok here's the direct url for the Miles version: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=46 |
| 03:49.12 | otravi | that one you're after :) ? |
| 03:49.37 | otravi | www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4649 * btw |
| 03:50.01 | kergoth_ | thatd be it, thanks |
| 03:52.38 | *** join/#wowace Wobin_ (n=Wobin@221.221.24.25) |
| 03:58.37 | kergoth | miles combat parser looks interesting, might have to poke at that code |
| 04:28.13 | Tekkub | wewt, SE is up on aceSVN |
| 04:28.21 | Tekkub | now with Composted goodness |
| 04:32.46 | ckknight | you know what I want? I version of MCP that has profiles |
| 04:33.11 | ckknight | so that I can load different addons depending on whether I'm raiding, bging, or soloing |
| 04:33.23 | ckknight | or whatever |
| 04:37.35 | FryGuy | are you handling AUF now? |
| 04:38.54 | ckknight | I need a name for an MCP replacement |
| 04:39.00 | ckknight | it enables/disables addons in game |
| 04:43.25 | hyperChipmunk | er, I think I fell asleep |
| 04:43.30 | ckknight | hehe |
| 04:43.51 | hyperChipmunk | woops =P |
| 04:46.11 | Tekkub | boss: it should be event driven too |
| 04:46.37 | Tekkub | you join a raid party it enables the mods you have set for raids and tells you you need to reload |
| 04:46.53 | Tekkub | you leave the raid it disables the mods you have set... |
| 04:47.01 | Tekkub | kinda like itemrack for addons :) |
| 04:47.30 | Tekkub | and for those that care, new SE commit now with Metro support ^^ |
| 04:50.14 | kergoth | anyone have a mirror of the 1.3 .zip of card bars? |
| 04:54.50 | FryGuy | metrognome? |
| 04:57.35 | Tekkub | me ads an 's' to that |
| 04:58.03 | Tekkub | haha this is bad... |
| 04:58.24 | ckknight | Someone emailed me about TouristLib |
| 04:58.26 | ckknight | ... |
| 04:58.35 | ckknight | thinking that it's an AddOn or something |
| 04:58.45 | Tekkub | settin up for UBRS and they somehow killed an orc as he went over the edge... so the whole raid is suiciding into the lava trying to loot it as they fall |
| 04:59.53 | Tem | Tekkub: |
| 04:59.59 | Tem | Upload Warmup to WoWI |
| 05:00.01 | Tem | NOW |
| 05:00.33 | Tem | Tekkub: Now Bitch! |
| 05:02.12 | Tekkub | meh, it's on the SVN stop mitchin |
| 05:02.18 | Tekkub | *bitchin |
| 05:03.19 | Tekkub | anywho, LUBRS now, bbiab |
| 05:03.28 | hyperChipmunk | what did you change, boss? |
| 05:04.05 | Codayus | I'm having a weird problem where I'm freezing on load... |
| 05:04.09 | Codayus | I get one frame, and then...nothing. |
| 05:04.14 | Codayus | Anyone heard of anything like that? |
| 05:04.22 | ckknight | QuestFu |
| 05:04.32 | ckknight | bug Kemayo |
| 05:04.34 | Codayus | Uh... |
| 05:04.39 | Codayus | Don't think I have that. Checking |
| 05:04.48 | ckknight | well, if you don't, then I dunno |
| 05:05.00 | Tem | Tekkub: I want you to upload it to WoWI so that I can link to it |
| 05:05.10 | hyperChipmunk | maybe you'd know if fubar let you SEE ERROR MESSAGES /mutter |
| 05:05.13 | Tem | Tekkub: so I can tell people asking for features in Catalyst to just download Warmup |
| 05:05.35 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 05:05.50 | hyperChipmunk | dude, wtf catalyst doesn't play my game for me in any way |
| 05:05.54 | Tem | and lol, Catalyst is spreading fast |
| 05:05.58 | hyperChipmunk | your mod sux |
| 05:06.09 | hyperChipmunk | Tem: how apropos |
| 05:06.19 | Tem | heh |
| 05:06.22 | Codayus | uh...hmm. |
| 05:06.38 | Tem | it's getting downloads faster than any other addon I've posted |
| 05:06.50 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, I committed a version that shows you the error messages |
| 05:06.56 | ckknight | did you not get the memo? |
| 05:07.23 | ckknight | you know |
| 05:07.27 | ckknight | the one I addressed to you |
| 05:09.19 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 05:09.54 | Wobin_ | I posted a link to Catalyst on the WoW LJ, so there may be traffic from there =P |
| 05:10.17 | Tem | "night" Cair |
| 05:10.30 | Tem | I know you're still lurking =P |
| 05:10.38 | hyperChipmunk | I did |
| 05:10.46 | Tem | did you get ahold of Dolby, Cairenn|sleep? |
| 05:10.47 | hyperChipmunk | but I don't get no error messages still |
| 05:11.12 | hyperChipmunk | Tem: someone gave your mod a 4 |
| 05:11.13 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 05:11.20 | Tem | really? |
| 05:11.21 | Tem | lol |
| 05:11.27 | hyperChipmunk | it's 4/5 w/ 6 votes now |
| 05:11.30 | hyperChipmunk | and I just gave it a 5 |
| 05:11.33 | Tem | I don't get the point of the rating system |
| 05:11.34 | hyperChipmunk | so it was 4/5 w/ 5 |
| 05:11.48 | Tem | how do you know someone gave it a 4? |
| 05:11.52 | hyperChipmunk | well |
| 05:11.54 | hyperChipmunk | 4 or less |
| 05:11.58 | Tem | someone probably gave it a 1 |
| 05:12.02 | Tem | because people are dicks |
| 05:12.07 | hyperChipmunk | I dunno how they round 'em |
| 05:12.07 | Tem | I blame cosmos |
| 05:12.10 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 05:12.23 | hyperChipmunk | new feature of cosmos |
| 05:12.36 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 05:12.37 | Wobin_ | Tem |
| 05:12.40 | hyperChipmunk | checks every other mod you have installed and rates it a 1 on wowi |
| 05:12.43 | Wobin_ | It's still v1.0 up? |
| 05:12.47 | Tem | Wobin_: aye? |
| 05:12.50 | Tem | it should be |
| 05:12.52 | Tem | why? |
| 05:12.56 | Wobin_ | not 1.01? |
| 05:13.03 | Tem | is 1.0.1 slower? |
| 05:13.08 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 05:13.10 | Wobin_ | not downloading |
| 05:13.13 | hyperChipmunk | the download link downloads 1.09 |
| 05:13.14 | hyperChipmunk | er |
| 05:13.15 | otravi | FryGuy: Don't think so :o |
| 05:13.16 | hyperChipmunk | 1.0 |
| 05:13.24 | hyperChipmunk | at least, the file name is 1.0 |
| 05:13.31 | hyperChipmunk | Catalyst.1.0.zip |
| 05:13.33 | Wobin_ | And the ingame version is 1.0 |
| 05:13.35 | otravi | hyperChipmunk: three oRA modules have been rated 1 :p |
| 05:13.45 | Wobin_ | None of my addons hvae been rated =P |
| 05:13.58 | otravi | I got 2x 1 on oRA :p |
| 05:14.00 | hyperChipmunk | I have 2 votes on BatFu, both 5 =D |
| 05:14.06 | Tem | Wobin_: hmm lemme check it out |
| 05:14.21 | otravi | I have to get my stuff together, and fix oRA on WoWI :( |
| 05:14.35 | Tem | oh hell |
| 05:14.41 | Tem | I uploaded 1.0 again as 1.0.1 |
| 05:14.46 | Tem | CAIRENN |
| 05:14.53 | Tem | I MADE A BOO BOO |
| 05:14.53 | hyperChipmunk | oh wait, only 1 vote |
| 05:15.01 | hyperChipmunk | lol tem |
| 05:15.08 | hyperChipmunk | you forget to change the radio button? |
| 05:15.33 | hyperChipmunk | now you have to change the version! |
| 05:15.49 | hyperChipmunk | can't upload a new file w/o a version change! |
| 05:16.29 | hyperChipmunk | even if the last "version change" didn't have a new file =x |
| 05:16.56 | FryGuy | otravi: was just going off of this: "otravi_UnitFrames, Fixed the memory leak in AceUnitFrames. Fixed a typo" |
| 05:17.21 | Cairenn|sleep | Tem: what? |
| 05:17.51 | Tem | I accidentely uploaded 1.0 as 1.0.1 |
| 05:17.58 | hyperChipmunk | fancy that; she's still awake |
| 05:18.06 | Tem | and now it won't let me add a new file labled as 1.0.1 |
| 05:18.15 | Tem | can you fix that? |
| 05:18.24 | Cairenn|sleep | what file? |
| 05:18.24 | hyperChipmunk | you slacker |
| 05:18.43 | Tem | Catalyst |
| 05:18.45 | hyperChipmunk | upload it as 1.0.1x and change it back to 1.0.1 after like the rest of us, you punk |
| 05:18.47 | ckknight | I just do "1.0.1 " |
| 05:18.59 | Tem | does that work? |
| 05:19.04 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:19.07 | Cairenn|sleep | Tem: fixed |
| 05:19.12 | Tem | thanks Cair |
| 05:19.19 | Cairenn|sleep | anything else? |
| 05:19.29 | hyperChipmunk | I'd like a glass of water |
| 05:19.38 | Wobin_ | World Peace? |
| 05:19.44 | hyperChipmunk | sure she does |
| 05:20.10 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: anything specific i have to do to enable the error messages? |
| 05:20.42 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, if all it says is that it can't load it, then that's the sum total of the information I can possibly provide |
| 05:20.49 | ckknight | look in FuBar.lua if you want |
| 05:20.51 | ckknight | it's at the top |
| 05:21.11 | hyperChipmunk | LocationFu gave the same nothing when I didn't have TouristLib installed |
| 05:21.43 | hyperChipmunk | and I know it ought to have said something about not being able to reference TouristLib (a nil value) or something like tha |
| 05:21.46 | ckknight | did you restart WoW? |
| 05:21.52 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I fixed it |
| 05:21.55 | Tem | Thanks Cair, sleep well. |
| 05:21.56 | ckknight | cause it changes the toc |
| 05:21.58 | ckknight | and adds a file |
| 05:21.59 | hyperChipmunk | but it should have spit an error for it |
| 05:22.02 | hyperChipmunk | and it didn't |
| 05:22.37 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:22.46 | hyperChipmunk | somethign to note though |
| 05:22.49 | hyperChipmunk | sec |
| 05:22.55 | hyperChipmunk | when I fell asleep |
| 05:23.03 | hyperChipmunk | I got sent back to the login screen |
| 05:23.28 | hyperChipmunk | and when I logged back in from there I did get an error message (evne before upgrading to the new one) |
| 05:23.46 | hyperChipmunk | ofc I noticed only as I was typing /rl =P |
| 05:23.53 | hyperChipmunk | and lost it as soon as I saw it |
| 05:24.25 | ckknight | lol |
| 05:24.30 | ckknight | so log out, log back in |
| 05:24.33 | kergoth | ckknight: fyi, got weird issues with a bar that wasnt full screen width, and which has more plugins enabled than can fit on it. instead of just overlapping on the bar, plugins show off the bar, out in the empty space between the bar and the sdie of the screen. i took a screenshot, converting atm |
| 05:24.59 | ckknight | I know about that, kergoth |
| 05:25.03 | ckknight | no need for screenie |
| 05:25.11 | kergoth | ah, k |
| 05:25.17 | hyperChipmunk | aha |
| 05:25.26 | hyperChipmunk | it's cuz warmup was throwing an error |
| 05:25.30 | ckknight | yea, my plan is to detect it and create a new bar automatically |
| 05:25.31 | Tem | Tekkub: Warmup -> WoWI NOW |
| 05:25.36 | kergoth | thatd be neat |
| 05:25.44 | hyperChipmunk | if there are errors in any other mod |
| 05:25.57 | hyperChipmunk | you'll get a blank on fubar mods |
| 05:26.04 | ckknight | a blank? |
| 05:26.05 | kergoth | hmm, someone did a new version of listfix, what was it called? |
| 05:26.05 | hyperChipmunk | I've had that happen before; I should have suspected that |
| 05:26.16 | hyperChipmunk | like, it'll just not load |
| 05:26.24 | hyperChipmunk | at least you've got a notice for that now |
| 05:26.28 | hyperChipmunk | before it was just silent |
| 05:28.51 | kergoth | ah thats right, the listfix addon was tem's ducttape |
| 05:29.06 | Tem | aye |
| 05:29.25 | Tem | ooh |
| 05:29.30 | Tem | when do we get the new editbox methods |
| 05:30.15 | Tem | damn |
| 05:30.17 | Tem | 1.11 |
| 05:31.29 | Tem | one thing I really wanted to add to DuctTape (and the reason I haven't done /anything/ with it in like 2 weeks) is ListFix-like behavior for removing the focus from edibboxes |
| 05:31.37 | Tem | s/edib/edit/ |
| 05:34.28 | hyperChipmunk | gawd those zonetimes are fast |
| 05:36.37 | hyperChipmunk | after this match i'ma just zone in and out of the tram =x |
| 05:42.52 | Tem | lol |
| 05:42.57 | Tem | I did that for like 10 minutes |
| 05:44.15 | otravi | FryGuy: I just hook the function... and prevent it from running the OnUpdate ever .02 sec |
| 05:44.46 | otravi | since you don't want to do a full update of the target's target ever .02 sec :p |
| 05:47.07 | hyperChipmunk | lol I'm in WSG and there's a shaman here with sulfuras |
| 05:52.03 | kergoth | ckknight: when i had too many plugins loaded for it to display, a lot of the displayed text got shortened with '...'. after fixing taht stituation, they continued to show the ... version until i changed what they displayed.. enabling/disabling/re-enabling or similar |
| 05:52.27 | ckknight | weird |
| 05:52.34 | ckknight | it shouldn't do that |
| 05:53.02 | ckknight | do you know any way to prevent that? cause I've done assorted width things |
| 05:53.02 | kergoth | yea, was odd, figured i'd see if you'd heard of it. want me to open a bug? |
| 05:53.08 | kergoth | not offhand |
| 05:53.10 | kergoth | hmm |
| 05:53.25 | ckknight | like a don't show ellipses deal |
| 06:03.44 | kergoth | warmup.lua:53:attempt to index 'frame', a nil value |
| 06:03.46 | kergoth | blah |
| 06:05.40 | kergoth | damnit, i lost my monopoly on some goods at the ah, didnt watch it for a bit |
| 06:07.37 | ckknight | I have a monopoly on magic essence and strange dust |
| 06:07.40 | ckknight | new server |
| 06:08.04 | ckknight | hey, is there a way to set the text in buttons yet? |
| 06:08.10 | ckknight | or is that something we have to wait for |
| 06:16.35 | kergoth | grar, stupid nil frame |
| 06:16.53 | hyperChipmunk | kerg: that's the error I was getting |
| 06:16.57 | hyperChipmunk | any idea what causes it? |
| 06:18.46 | kergoth | not offhand, havent looked at the code |
| 06:18.50 | kergoth | (yet) |
| 06:20.01 | hyperChipmunk | nothing jumped out at me, either |
| 06:21.21 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: in the warmup table, change defaultframe from ChatFrame2 to 2 |
| 06:21.35 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: when its used, he prepends ChatFrame there... so its trying to find ChatFrameChatFrame2 :) |
| 06:21.40 | kergoth | thats how it looks anyway, havent tested |
| 06:22.17 | *** join/#wowace [MoonWolf] (n=MoonWolf@a80-127-128-193.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 06:22.18 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [MoonWolf]] by ChanServ |
| 06:24.16 | hyperChipmunk | aha |
| 06:24.42 | kergoth | silly bug. i make a lot of those. hehe. |
| 06:26.11 | [MoonWolf] | silly bugs are the most funny |
| 06:29.58 | kergoth | :) |
| 06:30.26 | [MoonWolf] | grumpy bugs though |
| 06:30.29 | [MoonWolf] | they are a pain. |
| 06:30.48 | [MoonWolf] | and then theres the bitter bugs, and the nosteglic bugs. |
| 06:35.38 | hyperChipmunk | still suxage |
| 06:35.50 | hyperChipmunk | so there's both a silly bug and a grumpy bug in the code |
| 06:36.06 | hyperChipmunk | or the grumpy bug is hiding behind the silly bug |
| 06:36.18 | hyperChipmunk | which makes it, like, a ninja bug |
| 06:46.02 | Tem | Hahaaaa! |
| 06:46.04 | otravi | hyperChipmunk: I have a shaman with sulfuras in my guild :) |
| 06:46.09 | Tem | ...dangly parts |
| 06:47.30 | [MoonWolf] | :P |
| 06:47.36 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: how come there's like a 200-pixel No Fu Zone at the bottom of my screen |
| 06:47.48 | ckknight | ? |
| 06:48.22 | hyperChipmunk | everytime I try to align a detached tooltip to the bottom of my screen, it shoots up like 100-200 pixels |
| 06:48.49 | ckknight | yea, cause it goes above your MainMenuFrame |
| 06:48.53 | ckknight | the bar at the bottom |
| 06:49.04 | hyperChipmunk | I don't have a MainMenuFrame =x |
| 06:49.11 | ckknight | how'd you get rid of it? |
| 06:49.28 | hyperChipmunk | nuked it with visor, I think; was a long time ago |
| 06:49.52 | hyperChipmunk | maybe I just hid it; lemme look |
| 06:51.05 | ckknight | FuBarTooltip:1219, change if offsety < MainMenuBar:GetTop() then to if offsety < MainMenuBar:GetTop() and MainMenuBar:IsVisible() then |
| 06:51.09 | ckknight | see how it works |
| 06:53.17 | hyperChipmunk | yay |
| 06:53.17 | FryGuy | ckknight are the fu* on svn? |
| 06:53.34 | hyperChipmunk | it still shoots up to the same spot if I go past the bottom |
| 06:53.34 | ckknight | svn://ckknight.hopto.org/FuBar |
| 06:53.41 | hyperChipmunk | but at least I can align it |
| 06:53.47 | FryGuy | how come not svn.wowace.com? :p |
| 06:53.54 | hyperChipmunk | cuz he is a lamer |
| 06:54.18 | hyperChipmunk | either that, or he went through a lot of effort setting up a system that he likes |
| 06:54.18 | ckknight | FryGuy, cause it automatically updates my lua files, my README.txt, my CHANGELOG.txt, and makes a zip with a mini changelog so I can easily upload to WoWI |
| 06:54.25 | hyperChipmunk | and he'd rather not change it |
| 06:54.32 | hyperChipmunk | but I'm guessing the first one |
| 06:54.33 | FryGuy | ah |
| 06:54.46 | FryGuy | you can't do that with a batch file? :p |
| 06:55.03 | ckknight | ... |
| 06:55.08 | ckknight | that's how you do it |
| 06:55.16 | FryGuy | well |
| 06:55.23 | FryGuy | i'd write a php script cause batch files are teh devil |
| 06:55.32 | ckknight | I used bash |
| 06:55.38 | FryGuy | php > bash |
| 06:55.43 | ckknight | and PHP can blow me. |
| 06:55.51 | FryGuy | thems fightin words |
| 06:56.09 | hyperChipmunk | I just typed /kick FryGuy by reflex =( |
| 06:56.11 | ckknight | I'll teach yous a lesson yous won't soons forgets |
| 06:56.22 | FryGuy | i know bash |
| 06:56.24 | FryGuy | just.. no |
| 06:56.48 | ckknight | bash was easy to do it in |
| 06:56.51 | FryGuy | #!/bin/php |
| 06:57.04 | ckknight | and for something like what I did, which is mostly text manipulation, perl could have been a better choice |
| 06:57.13 | ckknight | FryGuy, you shouldn't do that |
| 06:57.18 | ckknight | you should do #!/usr/bin/env php |
| 06:58.31 | FryGuy | wow awesome |
| 06:58.33 | FryGuy | didn't know about that |
| 06:58.43 | FryGuy | fryguy@sligh:~$ /usr/bin/env php -q |
| 06:58.43 | FryGuy | <? echo "hello world"; ?> |
| 06:58.43 | FryGuy | hello world |
| 06:58.54 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:59.02 | ckknight | it picks up all the files in your path |
| 06:59.07 | ckknight | not just in /bin or /usr/bin |
| 07:00.07 | FryGuy | i forgot the parameter to not need the <? ?> |
| 07:00.47 | ckknight | I don't like PHP |
| 07:00.54 | FryGuy | I don't like perl |
| 07:00.58 | ckknight | me either |
| 07:01.03 | ckknight | perl blows |
| 07:01.05 | ckknight | so ugly |
| 07:01.14 | FryGuy | ugly is an understatement |
| 07:02.30 | ckknight | what other languages do you know? |
| 07:02.49 | FryGuy | hm |
| 07:02.53 | FryGuy | c/c++ |
| 07:02.55 | FryGuy | c# |
| 07:02.56 | FryGuy | java |
| 07:02.59 | FryGuy | php |
| 07:03.04 | FryGuy | cold fusion (ugh) |
| 07:03.14 | FryGuy | the basics |
| 07:03.23 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:03.30 | ckknight | reasonable assortment |
| 07:03.36 | FryGuy | and javascript, lua |
| 07:03.45 | ckknight | kinda all C syntaxes, though |
| 07:03.47 | FryGuy | used them both in embedded apps |
| 07:03.53 | FryGuy | heh not cold fusion :( |
| 07:03.55 | ckknight | except lua, not so much |
| 07:04.02 | FryGuy | I know basic and pascal too, but they don't really count :p |
| 07:04.13 | ckknight | if you know em well, they count |
| 07:04.19 | FryGuy | and assembly, both intel and z80 |
| 07:04.35 | ckknight | I just learned x86 asm, no other kinds |
| 07:04.43 | ckknight | last competition I was in, I lost to the Germans who beat my team used Pascal |
| 07:04.47 | ckknight | we used Python and Mathematica |
| 07:04.49 | FryGuy | well, i'm not an expert in z80.. it's been ages since I've used it |
| 07:05.01 | FryGuy | mathematica?! |
| 07:05.22 | FryGuy | ..how :/ |
| 07:05.24 | Tekkub | :) mathematica is fun |
| 07:05.26 | FryGuy | ya |
| 07:05.31 | FryGuy | <-- math major |
| 07:05.32 | FryGuy | :p |
| 07:05.58 | FryGuy | my nerd card is huge |
| 07:06.05 | ckknight | nerd card? |
| 07:06.21 | FryGuy | ya standard issue :) |
| 07:06.32 | ckknight | ...? |
| 07:06.35 | ckknight | not familiar |
| 07:06.41 | FryGuy | heh being facecious |
| 07:07.08 | ckknight | ah, I see |
| 07:07.09 | FryGuy | like.. not a real card |
| 07:07.32 | ckknight | how old are you? |
| 07:07.32 | ckknight | jw |
| 07:07.48 | FryGuy | 23 |
| 07:08.04 | FryGuy | y tu? |
| 07:09.04 | ckknight | 18 |
| 07:10.17 | Tem | oh lol |
| 07:10.29 | ckknight | what? |
| 07:10.41 | Tem | I just took a look in the Fix Loading times thread |
| 07:10.51 | ckknight | okay |
| 07:10.53 | Tekkub | and? |
| 07:11.15 | Tem | check out the last few posts |
| 07:11.18 | hyperChipmunk | and it says warmup is still broke |
| 07:12.15 | Tem | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=352710&p=9 |
| 07:12.26 | Tekkub | kek |
| 07:12.32 | Tekkub | and I'm working on WU hC |
| 07:12.40 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 07:12.42 | Tekkub | I'm stripping it down to bare stats |
| 07:13.07 | Tekkub | it'll have it's window and the lil combat log summary |
| 07:13.22 | *** join/#wowace haste (n=haste@Midkemia.e41-sw3.tg06.gathering.org) |
| 07:16.38 | Tem | Tekkub: what is supposedly "broken" about WU? |
| 07:16.46 | Tem | I haven't had any issue with it |
| 07:16.57 | Tekkub | I have no clue, chip's a tard |
| 07:17.16 | Tekkub | nonetheless, I'm stripping out a bunch of stuff |
| 07:17.55 | kergoth | current svn is borked, or it was earlier |
| 07:18.36 | Tekkub | bleh, is moon awake? |
| 07:19.52 | id` | soon |
| 07:19.53 | id` | :p |
| 07:20.11 | id` | Meh i trained hard yesterday, sheesh.. |
| 07:20.54 | id` | my belly wont do what i want it to do when i get up from my chair or sit down |
| 07:21.01 | id` | >_< |
| 07:21.19 | id` | instead it burns :P |
| 07:26.18 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, I am awake |
| 07:26.58 | Tekkub | loot rool window hooks are gone in new mendy |
| 07:27.10 | [MoonWolf] | eeeuh |
| 07:27.11 | Tekkub | and hyperlinks don't appear to work either |
| 07:27.16 | [MoonWolf] | damnit.... |
| 07:27.31 | [MoonWolf] | loot rolls are in... |
| 07:27.38 | Tekkub | and I don't seem to have a slash command either |
| 07:27.42 | banditron|afk | kergoth: i was looking at warmup earlier, it seems like the chatframe doesn't exist when warmup hits :Init() |
| 07:28.11 | Tekkub | loot roll are NOT in |
| 07:29.08 | Tekkub | http://svn.wowace.com/comp.php?repname=Moonwolf&path=%2F&compare%5B%5D=%2Ftrunk%2FMendeleev@9&compare%5B%5D=%2Ftrunk%2FMendeleev@13 |
| 07:29.15 | Tekkub | self:Hook(GameTooltip, "SetLootRollItem", "GameTooltip_SetLootRollItem") |
| 07:29.19 | Tekkub | :P~~~~ |
| 07:32.31 | [MoonWolf] | see they are in.... |
| 07:32.36 | [MoonWolf] | only they dont work. |
| 07:33.07 | [MoonWolf] | oh wai |
| 07:33.11 | [MoonWolf] | that is lootiem |
| 07:33.12 | [MoonWolf] | item* |
| 07:33.16 | [MoonWolf] | not lootroll item |
| 07:33.24 | Tekkub | yea dipshit :P |
| 07:33.48 | hyperChipmunk | YOU IDIOT |
| 07:34.09 | hyperChipmunk | you're as stupid as whoever that guy is that wrote warmup is |
| 07:34.15 | hyperChipmunk | - is |
| 07:34.55 | hyperChipmunk | oh I've got mad skyllz |
| 07:35.10 | Tekkub | proove it :P |
| 07:35.16 | hyperChipmunk | at dick-being |
| 07:35.29 | Tekkub | yea but prove your worthyness |
| 07:35.40 | Tekkub | ace EngInv all ready goddamnit |
| 07:35.46 | Tekkub | I'm sick of it! |
| 07:35.49 | hyperChipmunk | =( |
| 07:35.51 | hyperChipmunk | dude |
| 07:36.01 | hyperChipmunk | my timeline is gonna be months |
| 07:36.09 | Tekkub | *growl* |
| 07:36.32 | Tekkub | another AceInv SortedOnebag or whatever it was called |
| 07:36.49 | hyperChipmunk | SOB? |
| 07:37.00 | hyperChipmunk | Mynventory |
| 07:37.31 | Tekkub | that one mod, the one we all wanted to use to replace EI but it never gets even to usable betaness |
| 07:38.50 | hyperChipmunk | oh, never heard of it |
| 07:39.08 | [MoonWolf] | setitemref and setlootroll item have been committed |
| 07:39.14 | [MoonWolf] | can someone look at them |
| 07:39.17 | [MoonWolf] | I am at work here. |
| 07:39.20 | hyperChipmunk | BatFu is Nearly Finished though |
| 07:39.57 | [MoonWolf] | what does batfu do again ? |
| 07:40.11 | hyperChipmunk | battlegrounds stuff |
| 07:41.34 | Tekkub | Moon: can't telt roll until I'm in a group again |
| 07:41.50 | Tekkub | I'll test links in a sex |
| 07:41.55 | [MoonWolf] | kk |
| 07:42.23 | Tekkub | gak, error |
| 07:42.30 | Tekkub | line 42 |
| 07:42.31 | hyperChipmunk | [MoonWolf]: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4722 |
| 07:42.55 | [MoonWolf] | nice |
| 07:43.24 | [MoonWolf] | function was not properly ended |
| 07:43.26 | hyperChipmunk | just need to finish compost support and do flag carriers |
| 07:43.51 | [MoonWolf] | commit up |
| 07:44.06 | Tekkub | now line 69 |
| 07:44.25 | [MoonWolf] | error ? |
| 07:45.12 | Tekkub | blah blah can't find SetItemRef to hook |
| 07:45.46 | hyperChipmunk | line 42 and 69 |
| 07:45.49 | Tekkub | hrm.... |
| 07:45.51 | hyperChipmunk | sure hitting all the important ones |
| 07:45.52 | Tekkub | for key, value in linkFuncs do |
| 07:45.52 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:46.01 | Tekkub | in the dictionary under redundant... |
| 07:46.01 | [MoonWolf] | yeah |
| 07:46.07 | Tekkub | it says see redundant |
| 07:46.19 | [MoonWolf] | its kealtens code. |
| 07:46.26 | hyperChipmunk | good call |
| 07:46.32 | hyperChipmunk | blame it on someone who isn't ehre |
| 07:46.41 | Tekkub | kael sucks |
| 07:46.45 | [MoonWolf] | he made it and I have source files to prove it. |
| 07:46.55 | [MoonWolf] | comment out the set itemref for now.... |
| 07:47.13 | [MoonWolf] | otherwise ill handle it when I get home. |
| 07:48.29 | Mikma | gday |
| 07:48.45 | [MoonWolf] | hi mikma |
| 07:48.47 | Tekkub | I guess clad didn't get permissions reset, I can't commit to moonie's repo |
| 07:48.58 | Tekkub | this permission shit is annoying |
| 07:49.07 | Mikma | what's up? |
| 07:49.45 | Tekkub | the servers *bada bing!* |
| 07:49.50 | [MoonWolf] | the new hooking in mendeleev has a few kinks to work out again! |
| 07:50.08 | Tekkub | moon likes his hookers kinky |
| 07:50.26 | [MoonWolf] | kinky is good. |
| 07:50.30 | Mikma | who doesn't huh :D |
| 07:50.47 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, doesnt like hooker ata ll... |
| 07:50.58 | [MoonWolf] | s\ata ll\at all\ |
| 07:51.09 | Tekkub | yea bears don't make good living selling their bodies |
| 07:51.36 | Tekkub | hell, gay hookers just don't work out, it's so easy to get it for free with guys |
| 07:51.56 | [MoonWolf] | bunch of sluts |
| 07:52.06 | Tekkub | yup |
| 07:52.15 | id` | gookers |
| 07:52.17 | id` | lol |
| 07:52.19 | id` | :x |
| 07:52.41 | Tekkub | oh I heard the greatest slang insult the other day |
| 07:52.49 | Tekkub | one I'd never heard before :) |
| 07:52.52 | id` | what |
| 07:52.53 | id` | :o |
| 07:52.55 | [MoonWolf] | shoot |
| 07:53.06 | Tekkub | a hispanic calling Canadiens "Frostbacks" |
| 07:53.33 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 07:53.40 | id` | --^ |
| 07:54.02 | hyperChipmunk | cuz hispanics are referred to as somethingbacks |
| 07:54.06 | hyperChipmunk | I forget what |
| 07:54.08 | Mikma | "You have used up your prepaid" hmmkay |
| 07:54.09 | id` | lol |
| 07:54.16 | Tekkub | wetbacks |
| 07:54.19 | hyperChipmunk | wetbacks? |
| 07:54.20 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 07:54.24 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 07:54.27 | hyperChipmunk | so if you're in canada |
| 07:54.36 | hyperChipmunk | it freezes |
| 07:54.42 | hyperChipmunk | =D |
| 07:54.46 | hyperChipmunk | and you have frostbacks |
| 07:55.02 | Tekkub | I'm gonna start calling Cair that |
| 07:57.07 | ckknight | damn Goobacks |
| 07:57.25 | ckknight | They took our jerbs |
| 07:57.38 | hyperChipmunk | they took yer jerb! |
| 07:57.55 | ckknight | They took ma jerb! |
| 07:58.06 | hyperChipmunk | they took YER jeb! |
| 07:58.13 | ckknight | you killed it |
| 07:58.16 | ckknight | thanks a lot, hyperChipmunk |
| 07:58.25 | ckknight | psh |
| 07:58.49 | *** join/#wowace [Ammo] (n=wouter@connected.dnd.utwente.nl) |
| 07:59.00 | ckknight | lol |
| 07:59.02 | ckknight | hey [Ammo] |
| 07:59.04 | ckknight | morning |
| 08:06.41 | Mikma | yeah ok, MCombatLog uses 189KiB 50% less than Nurfed's |
| 08:06.55 | Mikma | too bad it bugs too much |
| 08:14.54 | [MoonWolf] | nurfed is still my choice. |
| 08:15.08 | [MoonWolf] | to bad I only use it to display my own hits and spell hits |
| 08:15.10 | [MoonWolf] | nothing more. |
| 08:15.20 | [MoonWolf] | unless I am in a party |
| 08:16.38 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 08:17.13 | [MoonWolf] | morning [Ammo] |
| 08:19.14 | Mikma | [MoonWolf]: yeah well nurfed is now my choice too since it's the only one which still works properly |
| 08:20.07 | [MoonWolf] | hitsmode is broken now ? |
| 08:20.22 | Mikma | hmm if i remember correctly a new version came out |
| 08:21.51 | Mikma | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2712 |
| 08:27.55 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, still around |
| 08:27.58 | Mikma | gah nice comments on aftt extreme v0.3, http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2416 :P |
| 08:28.03 | [MoonWolf] | I got setitemref working I think. |
| 08:28.05 | Tekkub | yarr |
| 08:28.43 | [MoonWolf] | I cant hook setitemref the same way as the other tooltips so I hooked it the old way. |
| 08:29.18 | Tekkub | ahso |
| 08:29.42 | [MoonWolf] | removed the redudency aswell |
| 08:30.13 | Tekkub | added the "elemental invasion" bosses to PT's loot tables |
| 08:30.38 | Tekkub | 67 nil error now |
| 08:30.59 | Tekkub | when hovering in bag |
| 08:31.13 | Tekkub | hyperlinks work tho |
| 08:31.17 | [MoonWolf] | cool |
| 08:31.25 | [MoonWolf] | that must be the rollitem then |
| 08:31.38 | Tekkub | nil when viewing in char frame as well |
| 08:32.14 | Tekkub | guess the redundancy was needed? that's odd |
| 08:32.26 | [MoonWolf] | do you see a conflict ? |
| 08:32.34 | [MoonWolf] | because I see nothing that could be nill..... |
| 08:33.09 | Tekkub | nothing that uses those hooks work now |
| 08:33.15 | Mikma | haveyou got the chance to look the issue i posted on your portal [MoonWolf]? |
| 08:33.55 | [MoonWolf] | mikma...fixed in the new hooking system |
| 08:34.12 | [MoonWolf] | ill add the rudency back |
| 08:34.38 | Mikma | [MoonWolf]: thanks :) i'm tired of hearing the nag from my gf while repairing items hehe |
| 08:34.57 | [MoonWolf] | what is wrong with pressing repair all ? |
| 08:34.57 | hyperChipmunk | any reason CompostLib should give me an error on line 193: attepmt to call method `Erase' (a nil value) |
| 08:35.28 | Mikma | [MoonWolf]: since she's the MT and has nr/fr/sr hear in inventory and needs to repair them too :) |
| 08:35.39 | hyperChipmunk | I've been poring over this for a half hour, and I'm completely stumped |
| 08:35.53 | [MoonWolf] | commited |
| 08:36.03 | Tekkub | give me line 193 so I can see |
| 08:36.06 | [MoonWolf] | Mikma, aha |
| 08:36.13 | hyperChipmunk | t = self:Erase(t) |
| 08:36.24 | Mikma | s\hear\gear |
| 08:36.33 | Tekkub | how are you calling whatever method that's in? |
| 08:36.41 | [MoonWolf] | It might take some time before the new version is up though. |
| 08:37.31 | Tekkub | Reclaim I assume... |
| 08:38.14 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 08:38.18 | hyperChipmunk | # |
| 08:38.19 | hyperChipmunk | cal info = compost:Acquire() |
| 08:38.19 | hyperChipmunk | # |
| 08:38.20 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:38.22 | Tekkub | works fine again moon, weird |
| 08:38.30 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastebin.com/657203 |
| 08:38.41 | [MoonWolf] | that is a true WTF |
| 08:38.50 | hyperChipmunk | the line highlighted is where i think it's happening |
| 08:38.51 | [MoonWolf] | ill have to ask kael what is up with that code. |
| 08:39.09 | Tekkub | :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: |
| 08:39.13 | Tekkub | you're using . |
| 08:39.25 | [MoonWolf] | . does not pass self, : does! |
| 08:40.13 | hyperChipmunk | THANK you |
| 08:40.13 | [MoonWolf] | as a rule I simply use : whenever a function is involved. |
| 08:40.16 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 08:40.36 | Tekkub | there are VERY rare cases I use . |
| 08:40.46 | Tekkub | if it's in an API i'll make big notes about it too |
| 08:40.49 | [MoonWolf] | yeah, but those are expections on the rules. |
| 08:40.51 | hyperChipmunk | seriously, I looked past that 500 times |
| 08:41.25 | Tekkub | hint: the error was an issue indexing something off "self" |
| 08:41.36 | Tekkub | issues with self, check your : |
| 08:41.47 | hyperChipmunk | there we go =D |
| 08:42.20 | hyperChipmunk | you think it's okay to have it split up like that into subfunctions now that compost is in play? it wasn't an issue when it wasn't |
| 08:42.52 | Tekkub | huh? |
| 08:42.54 | hyperChipmunk | n/m |
| 08:43.25 | hyperChipmunk | still graspin' compost |
| 08:43.31 | Tekkub | :) |
| 08:43.42 | Tekkub | self is confusing till you get used to it |
| 08:44.13 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 08:44.15 | [Ammo] | tooltip trouble |
| 08:44.43 | [Ammo] | I think my tooltip loses its anchor |
| 08:44.46 | [Ammo] | after zoning |
| 08:44.48 | [Ammo] | which is weird |
| 08:44.49 | Tekkub | cause I could go... SomeAddon.Erase = compost.Erase; SomeAddon:Erase(t) ... and self is totally different there |
| 08:44.55 | Tekkub | ammo! |
| 08:44.58 | [Ammo] | tekk |
| 08:45.06 | Mikma | [Ammo]: i've seen the same thing happening with tipbuddy too |
| 08:45.15 | [Ammo] | I wonder what is causing it |
| 08:45.19 | Tekkub | self:UnregisterAllEvents() |
| 08:45.24 | [Ammo] | ah :) |
| 08:45.26 | Tekkub | USE IT |
| 08:45.29 | Tekkub | *grin* |
| 08:45.32 | [Ammo] | I will |
| 08:45.36 | [Ammo] | but you didn't either!!!! |
| 08:45.38 | Tekkub | talked to clad about the whole event thing |
| 08:45.48 | [Ammo] | aha |
| 08:45.53 | Tekkub | only applies if Ace is disabling the addon |
| 08:45.59 | [Ammo] | (figured) |
| 08:46.11 | [Ammo] | does it remove hooks too? |
| 08:46.18 | [Ammo] | or do I do UnregisterAllHooks() |
| 08:46.27 | Tekkub | erp, didn't ask |
| 08:46.28 | [Ammo] | or something similar |
| 08:46.32 | Tekkub | prolly best you do |
| 08:46.42 | Tekkub | UnhookAll I think |
| 08:46.50 | [Ammo] | I usually unhook / unregister all |
| 08:47.00 | [Ammo] | but if it can be done with one / two function calls that would be sweet |
| 08:47.04 | [Ammo] | stupid tooltips though |
| 08:47.11 | [Ammo] | anyone know why it would lose its anchor |
| 08:47.21 | [Ammo] | I don't want to set its anchor every time I want to use it |
| 08:47.26 | [Ammo] | or owner rather |
| 08:47.33 | Tekkub | what tooltip? GameTooltip? |
| 08:47.35 | [Ammo] | no |
| 08:47.37 | [Ammo] | my own tooltip |
| 08:47.42 | [Ammo] | I have a tooltip defined in .xml |
| 08:47.57 | Tekkub | http://www.wowwiki.com/UIOBJECT_GameTooltip |
| 08:47.59 | [Ammo] | in my Enable() I do : SetOwner(WorldFrame, "ANCHOR_NONE") |
| 08:48.02 | Tekkub | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-interface-customization&T=330935&P=1 |
| 08:48.07 | Tekkub | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tooltip_Pseudo_Code |
| 08:48.11 | Tekkub | read all those |
| 08:48.14 | [Ammo] | I did |
| 08:48.21 | hyperChipmunk | k, assuming I had done that correctly, would it make a difference to use a self.info encompassing all of the menus vs. the individual local info for each of the constituant functions that make up the dropdown menu (like it was in the pastebin) |
| 08:48.26 | Tekkub | until I get my tooltip parsing embedlib written :) |
| 08:48.37 | [Ammo] | I then hook UseAction, and do: mytooltip:SetAction( id ) |
| 08:48.53 | [Ammo] | after some time (and usually after zoning) the tooltip loses its owner |
| 08:48.58 | Mikma | slouken is just too funny :D " Well, fixie dust is easier to cook up with a test case. :) " |
| 08:48.59 | Tekkub | SetOwner to it'sself |
| 08:49.12 | hyperChipmunk | each of those self locals being unique, right, so they're not stomping on one another, so no real difference, right? |
| 08:49.23 | [Ammo] | will that work for scanning? |
| 08:49.29 | [Ammo] | I only use it for scanning purposes |
| 08:49.34 | [Ammo] | not to display |
| 08:49.39 | Tekkub | I know |
| 08:49.57 | Tekkub | the generally accepted 1.10 fix: |
| 08:49.58 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.58 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.58 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.58 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.58 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:50.00 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:50.02 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:50.39 | [Ammo] | k |
| 08:50.39 | [Ammo] | I'll give that a whirl |
| 08:50.39 | [Ammo] | it's hard to test though |
| 08:50.39 | [Ammo] | I never had the problems people described in my Necronmicon thread |
| 08:50.39 | [Ammo] | until last night |
| 08:50.39 | Tekkub | "Note that the tooltip does not have a parent on purpose, to avoid possible issues with its parent getting hidden/shown." |
| 08:50.51 | [Ammo] | thanks tekk :) |
| 08:51.01 | [MoonWolf] | and what is with the tooltip losing its parrent at times ? |
| 08:51.02 | [Ammo] | are the cross-repo grants fixed ? |
| 08:51.20 | [MoonWolf] | nope |
| 08:51.40 | Tekkub | SVN was down for some time today |
| 08:53.30 | [Ammo] | password got reset again too |
| 08:53.30 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 08:53.39 | [Ammo] | silly stuff |
| 08:56.39 | Mikma | anyone of you using aftt extreme + monkeyquest? |
| 08:56.53 | hyperChipmunk | <3 Tekkub |
| 08:57.11 | [Ammo] | not me |
| 08:57.12 | hyperChipmunk | my mem increase rate isn't budging at all with menus now |
| 08:57.17 | [Ammo] | I'm using QuestFu |
| 08:57.23 | [Ammo] | which is just about the same as monkeyquest |
| 08:57.32 | [Ammo] | shows targets in tooltip as well |
| 08:57.33 | hyperChipmunk | it used to jump from 0.1KiB/s to 4KiB/s |
| 08:57.47 | hyperChipmunk | while navigating menus |
| 08:57.47 | Mikma | [Ammo]: hmm |
| 08:58.34 | Mikma | [Ammo]: i guess that doesn't work with aftt extreme yet |
| 08:58.51 | hyperChipmunk | no, I'm fundamentally opposed to using any mod for which the author feels it necessary to include the word "Extreme" in the title |
| 08:59.22 | Tekkub | I like my mods like I like my beef |
| 08:59.23 | Tekkub | lean |
| 08:59.32 | Tem | ckknight: |
| 08:59.39 | Tem | serious, serious issues with FB |
| 08:59.47 | Tekkub | I miss buffalo burgers.. stupid Arkansian hics |
| 09:00.06 | Tekkub | and Chipotle /cry |
| 09:00.09 | hyperChipmunk | yea, "Extreme" just shouts "OVERLOADED WITH EVERY FEATURE YOU CAN IMAGINE" |
| 09:00.48 | ckknight | Tem? |
| 09:01.06 | Tem | I detatched ExperienceFu's tooltip |
| 09:01.12 | ckknight | okay |
| 09:01.21 | hyperChipmunk | ...and it burned down his house |
| 09:01.25 | [Ammo] | I use Tipster, Informatips, reactips and works just fine that combination |
| 09:01.25 | Tem | close |
| 09:01.30 | ckknight | and kicked his kitten |
| 09:01.42 | Tem | I had to crash wow in order to get out |
| 09:01.48 | Mikma | so there's 2 panels, bosspanel and fubar |
| 09:01.52 | hyperChipmunk | /anger FuBar |
| 09:01.54 | Tem | memory use went through the roof |
| 09:01.54 | ckknight | no, Mikma |
| 09:02.00 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:02.02 | Tem | and fps went to less than 0 |
| 09:02.06 | hyperChipmunk | oh I had that happen with the first detach release |
| 09:02.10 | Tem | er, less than 1 |
| 09:02.14 | hyperChipmunk | he seemed to have fixed it up afterwards |
| 09:02.21 | ckknight | okay, I'm gonna reset my saved variables and reproduce |
| 09:02.22 | Mikma | ckknight: well then i don't get it |
| 09:02.35 | hyperChipmunk | name change |
| 09:02.40 | ckknight | Mikma, you don't understand it when the title says FuBar (previously BossPanel) ? |
| 09:02.56 | Mikma | haven't been able to find the one yet |
| 09:03.10 | Tem | ckknight: I found the problem |
| 09:03.16 | ckknight | Tem, ooh |
| 09:03.17 | Tem | ckknight: at least, I think I did |
| 09:03.20 | ckknight | hit me |
| 09:03.27 | Tem | ckknight: I have old versions of some plugins |
| 09:03.30 | hyperChipmunk | it happened to me when I had coded BatFu wrong initially, now that i remember |
| 09:03.37 | Tem | so it was spamming deprecated messages |
| 09:03.41 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 09:03.50 | ckknight | okay |
| 09:03.51 | Tem | and aparently you do something pretty intense in those deprecated messages |
| 09:03.56 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:04.03 | hyperChipmunk | he factors mersenne primes |
| 09:04.13 | hyperChipmunk | just for the whale of it |
| 09:04.17 | Tem | my guess is string concats |
| 09:04.26 | ckknight | I calculate pi to the #INFth decimal |
| 09:05.12 | Tem | riiight |
| 09:05.23 | hyperChipmunk | using the babylonian method! |
| 09:05.30 | hyperChipmunk | omg |
| 09:05.40 | ckknight | ? |
| 09:05.53 | hyperChipmunk | pi calculation |
| 09:06.24 | hyperChipmunk | there's several techniques and...oh n/m |
| 09:06.36 | hyperChipmunk | math major boy can explainit |
| 09:06.59 | hyperChipmunk | bedtime for me |
| 09:07.05 | hyperChipmunk | batfu composted |
| 09:07.20 | hyperChipmunk | flag carrier stuff and I'm done |
| 09:08.15 | hyperChipmunk | wee |
| 09:08.19 | ckknight | yea |
| 09:08.37 | ckknight | I'm gonna try to split up HonorFu into a display and a library part tomorrow |
| 09:09.21 | hyperChipmunk | I'm changing your format a bit; I'm gonna add flag carriers to the tooltip display as sort of wsg's 'objective status' info |
| 09:09.33 | ckknight | works for me |
| 09:09.34 | hyperChipmunk | and see if I can make that clickable |
| 09:09.39 | hyperChipmunk | to select either one |
| 09:09.47 | ckknight | hrm, cool |
| 09:10.30 | hyperChipmunk | the tooltip is small enough in wsg that it's almost silly not to keep it detached, anyway, so for most people it'll be extremelyl convenient |
| 09:11.10 | hyperChipmunk | also, adding both flag statuses will make the AlwaysUpFrame obselete |
| 09:11.13 | hyperChipmunk | which is yay |
| 09:11.32 | hyperChipmunk | and knock out the need for BGFlag, too, in one fell swoop |
| 09:11.53 | hyperChipmunk | that addon's always made me cry |
| 09:12.12 | hyperChipmunk | anywhoo |
| 09:12.15 | hyperChipmunk | night folks |
| 09:18.45 | Mikma | hmm the WarmUp from svn.wowace.com gives and errormessage, WarmUp.lua:53: attempt to index global 'WarmupSV' (a nil value) |
| 09:21.41 | Mikma | funny, i think i get why. i copypasted the files to old folder (!!Warmup). deleted the whole folder and copied the new one in and the message is gone |
| 09:30.45 | Mikma | yeah of course it doesn't give me errormessage because it hasn't loaded the addon |
| 09:32.32 | [MoonWolf] | I found out today |
| 09:32.38 | [MoonWolf] | that teen titans is pretty funny |
| 09:33.06 | Tem | it's supposed to be, I think |
| 09:33.07 | banditron|afk | go teen titans! |
| 09:33.23 | Tem | it's an intentionally bad impersonation of japanese animation |
| 09:33.33 | Tem | I think |
| 09:33.34 | banditron|afk | oh no no |
| 09:33.42 | banditron|afk | it takes the BEST PARTS of japanese animation |
| 09:34.26 | banditron|afk | they wear their emotions all over the place |
| 09:35.14 | [MoonWolf] | I saw like 5 minutes before I had to go away |
| 09:35.20 | [MoonWolf] | and I was laughing all the way to work. |
| 09:37.15 | Tem|Sleep | I just downloaded the soundtrack for all 3 Godfather movies for free |
| 09:37.24 | [MoonWolf] | godfather is overrated |
| 09:37.26 | [MoonWolf] | very overrated. |
| 09:37.41 | Tem|Sleep | god damn it's easy to take advantage of free trials on the music download sites |
| 09:37.49 | Tem|Sleep | I don't care how overrated the movies are |
| 09:37.54 | Tem|Sleep | I like the music |
| 09:37.57 | Mikma | hmm yeah i have to downgrade the warmup, still got the error |
| 09:38.15 | Tem|Sleep | Tek knows the wu in the snv is borked |
| 09:38.25 | Tem|Sleep | he's fixing it soon |
| 09:38.27 | Tem|Sleep | OR ELSE |
| 09:38.30 | otravi | borked how :o ? |
| 09:38.39 | Tem|Sleep | I dunno |
| 09:38.42 | Tem|Sleep | he said so earlier |
| 09:38.42 | otravi | (people here won't let me sleep) :( |
| 09:38.44 | Mikma | Tem|Sleep: thanks :) |
| 09:38.48 | Tem|Sleep | anyway, sleep time |
| 09:38.50 | Tem|Sleep | night guys |
| 09:39.11 | otravi | "Hello, *poke sleeping person* are you haste?" |
| 09:39.15 | Mikma | it's 12:40 in here :) sun is shining and snow is melting :D |
| 09:39.32 | otravi | my irssi says it's 11:40 here |
| 09:39.49 | Mikma | then you must be from norway/sweden ;) |
| 09:39.58 | otravi | norway |
| 09:40.07 | otravi | currently trying to get some sleep on TG =\ |
| 09:40.38 | otravi | but people here are always poking me |
| 09:41.11 | Mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:42.03 | otravi | :o |
| 10:12.45 | id` | *lunch* |
| 10:13.29 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=Tekk@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net) |
| 10:14.04 | Tem|Sleep | I crash wopw |
| 10:14.06 | Tem|Sleep | wow* |
| 10:14.08 | Tem|Sleep | in my sleep |
| 10:14.50 | [MoonWolf] | hehe |
| 10:14.55 | [MoonWolf] | keep going tem! |
| 10:15.02 | Tekkub | my neighbors are fucked up |
| 10:15.16 | Tekkub | 5AM and their apt door is wide open |
| 10:15.19 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, so are you. Like attracts like. |
| 10:15.27 | id` | haha |
| 10:16.21 | banditron | holy crap my door was open |
| 10:16.26 | [MoonWolf] | HAHA |
| 10:16.31 | [MoonWolf] | ROFL |
| 10:16.43 | Tem|Sleep | bit.mod(x,0) |
| 10:16.44 | Tem|Sleep | rofl |
| 10:16.51 | id` | >_o |
| 10:17.00 | Tem|Sleep | someone forgot a divide by zero check |
| 10:19.17 | Tem|Sleep | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=359383&p=1&tmp=1#post359383 |
| 10:20.27 | Mikma | i'll try that on my too hehe, here wo go |
| 10:20.54 | Mikma | nothing happens |
| 10:22.05 | Mikma | my mac too* |
| 10:22.23 | [MoonWolf] | macs are superios |
| 10:22.28 | [MoonWolf] | well at least this time. |
| 10:22.51 | Mikma | wohoo something they won't crash |
| 10:24.40 | Mikma | fubar_skillsfu and fubar_cloakhelmtoggle gives nags in chatframe when mouseovered |
| 10:26.25 | Mikma | cloakhelmtoggle gives nag about lines 121 and 126, in function "UpdateTooltip" |
| 10:27.04 | Mikma | skillsfu nags about lines 69, 88, 89, in function "UpdateTooltip" |
| 10:27.17 | Tekkub | :P |
| 10:27.40 | Tekkub | seems boss's latest theory is to spam the fuck out of the user till the plugin gets updated |
| 10:27.57 | Mikma | hehe :D |
| 10:28.05 | banditron | i like it |
| 10:28.06 | Tekkub | ironically it throws those errors if you don't handle the tooltip at all |
| 10:29.24 | Mikma | well seems like disabling those two addons will have to do until the authors update them |
| 10:31.11 | Mikma | seems to me that it only nags if the author has tried to put a empty line there |
| 10:31.59 | Mikma | FuBarTooltip:AddDoubleLine(nil, "Helm", HelmOn, 1, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0) |
| 10:32.00 | Mikma | FuBarTooltip:SetHint("Click to toggle.") |
| 10:32.03 | id` | [MoonWolf]: how do i say 'Correspondentie adres' in english? (everyone here can probably read what i mean ;)) |
| 10:32.04 | Mikma | or not :P |
| 10:33.28 | [MoonWolf] | correspondance |
| 10:33.30 | [MoonWolf] | I think. |
| 10:37.37 | Mikma | that was simple, i replaced FuBarTooltip with self.tooltip and no nags |
| 10:41.00 | Tekkub | FuBar_LootTypeFu or FuBar_LootTyFu? |
| 10:41.38 | *** join/#wowace banditron_ (n=bandito@cpe-67-9-143-58.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 10:42.03 | banditron_ | what does loottype do? |
| 10:42.45 | Mikma | oh crap, QuestFu lacks the "paste questdetails" :( |
| 10:44.48 | banditron | yah shift-click does something else i forget what |
| 10:44.51 | Tekkub | it just shows the group loot type |
| 10:44.51 | banditron | tracks it? |
| 10:45.03 | Tekkub | "Master Looter" Etc... |
| 10:46.17 | banditron | oh oh. yah. |
| 10:46.34 | Mikma | shift+click puts it on track |
| 10:47.14 | banditron | yar. i wonder how that should be handled. how does it work in normal quest window? |
| 10:47.37 | Mikma | shift+click on the quest pastes the questname to chat if prompt is open |
| 10:49.26 | Mikma | shift+leftclick or rightclick |
| 10:49.57 | Mikma | and if prompt isn't open it tracks the quest |
| 10:50.27 | banditron | icic |
| 10:50.42 | banditron | so detection of chat prompt is fix |
| 10:51.39 | banditron | i hope someone fixes it :-* |
| 10:51.43 | Mikma | well that the blizz qlog i was talking about |
| 10:51.53 | banditron | yah |
| 10:52.06 | banditron | that's how most would expect it to work. just like u just now. |
| 10:52.42 | Mikma | well i was expecting the questfu to paste the questname with shift+leftclick and questdetails with shift+rightclick like MonkeyQuest did :) |
| 11:04.01 | banditron | well code out of monkeyquest is easy-straightforward. ChatFrameEditBox |
| 11:13.48 | *** topic/#wowace by [MoonWolf] -> wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | May the GeForce be with you |
| 11:13.57 | [MoonWolf] | I am the kinf of lame topics! |
| 11:16.42 | otravi | but I have ATi :( |
| 11:16.45 | otravi | in Linux :( |
| 11:16.49 | Tekkub | MOON! |
| 11:17.05 | [MoonWolf] | ? |
| 11:17.06 | otravi | I still haven't gotten any sleep! |
| 11:17.06 | Tekkub | FuBar_LootTypeFu or FuBar_LootTyFu? |
| 11:17.15 | otravi | but I did get to watch half a season Invader Zim :D |
| 11:17.16 | ckknight | LootTypeFu |
| 11:17.26 | [MoonWolf] | lootTyFu |
| 11:17.45 | [MoonWolf] | zim is a good subsitute to Zim |
| 11:17.49 | [MoonWolf] | sleep I mean. |
| 11:17.59 | Tekkub | moon needs sleep too! |
| 11:18.05 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 11:18.09 | [MoonWolf] | its 1 pm here! |
| 11:18.16 | [MoonWolf] | and ammo knowns it. |
| 11:18.34 | otravi | I'm in the same timezone as you ! |
| 11:19.04 | Tekkub | wheee.... I don't feel motivated enough to finish FuBaring my Boss mods |
| 11:19.08 | [MoonWolf] | up north or down south ? |
| 11:19.27 | otravi | how about: up norway south? |
| 11:19.42 | Tekkub | I feel like doing loot tables in PT/Mendy, but that's kinda pointless till I can commit up my mendy changes |
| 11:19.42 | [MoonWolf] | norway is up north for me. |
| 11:20.04 | otravi | hehe |
| 11:20.30 | [MoonWolf] | but ati in linux, not the best combo ever. |
| 11:20.55 | otravi | half the drivers are broken :( |
| 11:21.21 | [MoonWolf] | only half ? |
| 11:21.48 | otravi | Well, they are pretty random in performance |
| 11:21.57 | otravi | or was... it has started to become a lot more stable |
| 11:21.58 | Tekkub | it ain't linux till all but one driver works |
| 11:22.19 | Tekkub | *only one driver works |
| 11:22.25 | Tekkub | that came out all wrong |
| 11:24.46 | otravi | hehe |
| 11:26.35 | Mikma | hmm i'll make a post to QuestFu about pasting the quest-stats to chat |
| 11:41.57 | Tekkub | *blarf* |
| 11:42.00 | Tekkub | I feel sick |
| 11:42.17 | Tekkub | I just opened EngInv's files and read some of his code |
| 11:42.51 | Mikma | don't worry my "code" is 20x horrible than his |
| 11:43.44 | *** join/#wowace banditron (n=bandito@cpe-67-9-143-58.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 11:44.40 | Mikma | Tekkub: here's a example, don't cry i'm not good at anything ;) http://wow.reaktio.net/buttonnamer/src/ButtonNamer.lua.txt |
| 11:45.25 | Tekkub | NO SEMICOLONS! |
| 11:45.46 | Tekkub | and drop those globals at the start, locals only! |
| 11:46.05 | Mikma | don't worry i'm not "coding" that anymore :) |
| 11:46.23 | Mikma | what's wrong with semicolons? :D |
| 11:46.29 | Tekkub | Are you a local??? *has Leage of Gentlemen flashbacks* |
| 11:47.10 | Tekkub | glayven, loops are your friend :P |
| 11:47.11 | Mikma | i had a better version of that but i got tired of it and deleted it heh :P |
| 11:47.47 | Mikma | didn't get it to work the way i wanted so didn't wan't to code it anymore, after all it's pretty useless addon anyway |
| 11:47.55 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/buttonnamer/buttonnamer3.jpg |
| 11:50.34 | ckknight | semicolons are evil. |
| 11:51.50 | ckknight | unneeded parentheses wrapping if conditions are also evil |
| 11:52.37 | Mikma | there's something wrong with my code then if semicolons are evil |
| 11:53.02 | ckknight | yes |
| 11:53.07 | Mikma | if i make a slashcommand and don't put ; at the end when i call a function the addon calls it when i reload ui |
| 11:53.33 | ckknight | ? |
| 11:53.35 | ckknight | pastebin |
| 11:53.56 | Mikma | well i'll try to show it if i find a suitable code :) |
| 11:54.11 | ckknight | there's only one place where eemicolons are needed |
| 11:54.18 | ckknight | that I know of |
| 11:54.19 | ckknight | a(b)(c)(d) |
| 11:54.53 | ckknight | does it mean a(b); c(d) or ((a(b))(c))(d) |
| 11:55.03 | Mikma | ok here's a raidroll-example |
| 11:55.06 | Mikma | SlashCmdList["RRSLASH"] = RR_SlashChat; |
| 11:55.27 | Mikma | it the ; is missing it will do RR_SlashChat at login or after reloadui |
| 11:55.42 | Mikma | meaning it will do a raidroll when i login ;) |
| 11:55.55 | ckknight | you know that's not true |
| 11:56.10 | ckknight | unless something is odd with the next line |
| 11:56.11 | Mikma | it did and i got a laugh about it couple of times |
| 11:56.23 | Mikma | next line: SLASH_RRSLASH1 = "/rr"; |
| 11:56.34 | Mikma | don't mind the II .. they're just tabs |
| 11:57.14 | Mikma | ok well i might be able to do it in otherway |
| 11:57.16 | Mikma | let's see |
| 11:57.32 | Mikma | SlashCmdList["RRSLASH"] = function() RR_SlashChat() end |
| 11:57.42 | Mikma | haven't tested that out |
| 12:06.16 | Mikma | yeah now it's broken badly :) |
| 12:06.21 | otravi | haha! |
| 12:06.30 | *** join/#wowace TheFly| (i=the@h43n1fls34o267.telia.com) |
| 12:06.31 | otravi | I made a auto-cast curse of shadow macro again! |
| 12:06.36 | otravi | feel the lazyness in ZG |
| 12:14.23 | Mikma | Tem|Sleep: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2419 |
| 12:14.52 | id` | Mikma: Im now rewriting buttonnamer.lua, because i feel i need to and im bored at work. |
| 12:15.46 | Mikma | id`: haha, do what you please, it turned out to be a too hard addon for me to code anyway :) |
| 12:16.12 | Mikma | meaning it didn't work as i would have like with Druid and Warrior |
| 12:16.31 | Mikma | and i wanted to add ability to change the color of the texts etc etc |
| 12:16.32 | id` | oh ic |
| 12:16.47 | id` | well its just to show you some preacites |
| 12:16.48 | id` | :P |
| 12:16.55 | id` | practises* |
| 12:17.15 | Mikma | ok that's cool :) |
| 12:17.27 | Mikma | there's so much i would like to do but don't have the skills to do :P |
| 12:18.51 | id` | meh skills |
| 12:18.54 | id` | experience |
| 12:18.55 | id` | :) |
| 12:21.12 | Mikma | i was just wondering.. is it possible to set a background color on the text on buttons? |
| 12:23.42 | id` | i dunno i quit wow some time ago :( |
| 12:23.48 | id` | totally into other stuff |
| 12:24.57 | namxo | lineage 2 rox |
| 12:24.57 | namxo | :) |
| 12:27.19 | namxo | yeah it's dirty to catch a right click in macro :( |
| 12:27.31 | namxo | wow api call use_action with arg1 = rightclick |
| 12:27.40 | namxo | then wow api call castspellbyname (this is in the macro) |
| 12:27.45 | namxo | but arg1 sux, is set to nil :( |
| 12:27.51 | namxo | so i must use a fake global var -- Try to improve compatibility with selfcast macro |
| 12:27.51 | namxo | --if (arg1 == "RightButton") then |
| 12:27.52 | namxo | --USE_ACTION_RIGHT_CLICK = true; |
| 12:27.52 | namxo | --else |
| 12:27.52 | namxo | --USE_ACTION_RIGHT_CLICK = false; |
| 12:27.53 | namxo | --end |
| 12:27.58 | namxo | you know a better way ? |
| 12:30.03 | id` | function out(text) DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(text) end |
| 12:30.07 | id` | can i crunch this to: |
| 12:30.21 | id` | local out = DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage |
| 12:30.21 | id` | ? |
| 12:30.35 | id` | (crunching code is fun :p) |
| 12:30.39 | namxo | you could try |
| 12:30.39 | namxo | ;) |
| 12:30.54 | Mikma | i guess he can't :D |
| 12:30.56 | namxo | and tell me if it's work :D |
| 12:31.02 | namxo | and for my problem ? :p |
| 12:31.07 | id` | namxo: read above |
| 12:31.12 | id` | (14:23) ( id`) i dunno i quit wow some time ago :( |
| 12:31.13 | id` | (14:24) ( id`) totally into other stuff |
| 12:31.16 | id` | i cant |
| 12:31.17 | id` | :p |
| 12:31.20 | namxo | nia nia ;p |
| 12:31.29 | id` | pff |
| 12:31.29 | id` | ;;p |
| 12:34.15 | namxo | my problem with USE_ACTION_RIGHT_CLICK is that : |
| 12:34.31 | namxo | if i click on my barre to cast the macro the process is : |
| 12:34.33 | namxo | UseAction |
| 12:34.38 | namxo | CastSpellByName |
| 12:34.44 | namxo | but, if after i try (for some test) |
| 12:34.51 | id` | Question, in a pattern can i use [1-12] ? |
| 12:35.02 | namxo | the value USE_ACTION_RIGHT_CLICK is still set to the previous button |
| 12:35.09 | namxo | how i could erase it properly ? |
| 12:35.12 | namxo | no |
| 12:36.01 | namxo | ([0-9]|1[0-2]) |
| 12:36.03 | namxo | something like that ;) |
| 12:36.58 | id` | err, right |
| 12:37.08 | namxo | yep i know ;) |
| 12:41.16 | id` | done |
| 12:41.45 | id` | not saying it'l work as i cant test but: http://pastebin.com/657528 |
| 12:42.49 | Mikma | i'll give it a go in a moment |
| 12:42.54 | namxo | oh it's for naming button ? |
| 12:42.55 | namxo | :D |
| 12:42.56 | id` | ^^ |
| 12:43.07 | id` | namxo: i think so :> |
| 12:43.15 | namxo | [0-9]|[0-2] |
| 12:43.17 | namxo | you have put that |
| 12:43.19 | namxo | it's not ok |
| 12:43.26 | namxo | you've forget the 1 |
| 12:43.29 | id` | woops |
| 12:43.30 | namxo | it must be [0-9]|1[0-2] |
| 12:43.31 | id` | add a 1 |
| 12:43.33 | id` | :P |
| 12:43.41 | namxo | or maybe : |
| 12:43.50 | id` | ( id`) not saying it'l work |
| 12:43.52 | id` | :P |
| 12:43.57 | namxo | ([0-9])|(1[0-2]) i dunno :p |
| 12:44.05 | namxo | but me i will do that : |
| 12:44.35 | id` | oh i am so stupid |
| 12:44.35 | namxo | if tonumber(args[2]) and tonumber(args[2]) < 13 and tonumber(args[2]) > 0 |
| 12:44.35 | namxo | ;) |
| 12:44.40 | id` | yeah |
| 12:44.41 | id` | ! |
| 12:44.42 | id` | lol |
| 12:44.53 | namxo | i think it's more nice :) |
| 12:45.00 | id` | nicer* |
| 12:45.12 | namxo | more nicer ? ok sorry :) |
| 12:45.17 | id` | no, -more |
| 12:45.17 | id` | :p |
| 12:45.24 | namxo | oh ok lol :D |
| 12:45.26 | namxo | it's nicer |
| 12:45.26 | namxo | :D |
| 12:45.31 | id` | \o/ |
| 12:45.32 | id` | xD |
| 12:45.39 | namxo | congratulation oxman |
| 12:45.40 | namxo | ;D |
| 12:49.35 | Mikma | hmm |
| 12:50.41 | Mikma | let's see, will the author of QuestsFu do support for aftt_extreme or will the remaker of aftt_extreme manage to fix the support for MonkeyQuest first :) |
| 12:51.00 | namxo | i do my quest with the blizzard tracker ;p |
| 12:51.06 | namxo | is nicer |
| 12:51.08 | namxo | (ah ah ;D) |
| 12:51.27 | Mikma | yeah but i'm talking about seeing the quest status on aftt_extreme |
| 12:51.28 | Mikma | 1.10 broke it :( |
| 12:51.38 | Mikma | the bastards |
| 12:51.40 | namxo | i go on curse to see this addon |
| 12:52.21 | namxo | nothing on curse, i go on ui wow |
| 12:52.51 | Mikma | namxo: talking about aftt_extreme? |
| 12:52.52 | namxo | nothing :D |
| 12:52.56 | namxo | yep |
| 12:53.02 | Mikma | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2416 |
| 12:53.05 | Mikma | there's the remake of it |
| 12:53.18 | namxo | ok |
| 12:53.30 | Mikma | Wydrian started to develope it since AquaFlare7 stopped |
| 12:53.30 | namxo | well.. |
| 12:53.35 | namxo | why you don't use tipbuddy ? |
| 12:53.42 | Mikma | (he's the author of AF_ToolTip) |
| 12:53.57 | Mikma | because aftt_extreme is just too damn nice :) |
| 12:54.08 | namxo | tipbuddy nicer |
| 12:54.10 | Mikma | and it's light (!!!) |
| 12:54.11 | namxo | (ah ah i love :p) |
| 12:54.14 | namxo | tipbuddy too :) |
| 12:54.32 | Mikma | WarmUp says it's 68KiB |
| 12:54.44 | Mikma | i'll try tipbuddy and look again ;) |
| 12:54.53 | namxo | let me guess.. |
| 12:54.59 | namxo | do you use CT_RaidAssist ? |
| 12:54.59 | namxo | :) |
| 12:55.03 | Mikma | nope |
| 12:55.08 | namxo | ok so nice :) |
| 12:55.09 | Mikma | abandoned it on monday |
| 12:55.17 | id` | voice > CTRA |
| 12:55.19 | namxo | because CT_RaidAssist is VERY heavy |
| 12:55.20 | Mikma | ora + bigwigs |
| 12:55.23 | id` | just shout commands |
| 12:55.25 | id` | >_> |
| 12:55.30 | namxo | yep |
| 12:55.34 | namxo | i hate CTRA |
| 12:55.39 | id` | i hate raiding |
| 12:55.45 | id` | at least in wow |
| 12:55.45 | namxo | ;D |
| 12:55.52 | Mikma | id`: mac doesn't have working ts version my guild uses :P |
| 12:55.56 | namxo | wow sux after few weeks at 60 :D |
| 12:55.59 | namxo | lineage 2 rox |
| 12:55.59 | namxo | ;p |
| 12:56.04 | otravi | I need something to get me awake :( |
| 12:56.08 | Mikma | TipBuddy (1845KiB) |
| 12:56.08 | id` | l2 the game itself is ok |
| 12:56.09 | otravi | I tried to code now :o |
| 12:56.12 | namxo | otravi coffe ? :p |
| 12:56.14 | id` | the interface and movement sucks dick |
| 12:56.15 | otravi | and it went like... shit... |
| 12:56.26 | namxo | no id, it's very good, movement don't sucks |
| 12:56.27 | otravi | namxo: so long to the nearest gas station :( |
| 12:56.28 | namxo | just different |
| 12:56.33 | namxo | and i like the fixed ui |
| 12:56.35 | namxo | you know why ? |
| 12:56.39 | id` | namxo: yes it does, you have to use the damn mouse to move |
| 12:56.41 | id` | suck++ |
| 12:56.46 | namxo | because you know your enemy don't beat you because he has an ubber addon |
| 12:56.46 | namxo | ;p |
| 12:56.50 | id` | and you cant even spin the camera right |
| 12:56.54 | namxo | in this way i'm ok :) |
| 12:56.54 | Mikma | namxo: compare, aftt_extreme (68KiB) vs. TipBuddy (1845KiB) |
| 12:57.08 | namxo | hum ok it's true Mikma. |
| 12:57.09 | otravi | Mikma: how about memory increase rate? |
| 12:57.16 | namxo | but.. i don't like the portrait in aftt |
| 12:57.23 | id` | namxo: edit it |
| 12:57.25 | namxo | advise me an other tt addon :) |
| 12:57.32 | id` | none |
| 12:57.33 | otravi | namxo: AF_Tooltip mini |
| 12:57.33 | namxo | i don't like work ;p |
| 12:57.34 | Mikma | otravi: was something like 0.1 - 0.2 |
| 12:57.41 | id` | namxo: then stop codign addons |
| 12:57.43 | Mikma | with aftt_extreme, now looking it with tipbuddy |
| 12:57.50 | namxo | i code only easypriest |
| 12:57.50 | namxo | :) |
| 12:57.53 | id` | pff |
| 12:57.54 | id` | :p |
| 12:57.59 | namxo | hey ! |
| 12:58.00 | namxo | it's great |
| 12:58.02 | namxo | over 100k dl |
| 12:58.03 | namxo | ;p |
| 12:58.07 | id` | so? :D |
| 12:58.11 | namxo | for a class based addon it's nicer |
| 12:58.11 | namxo | :) |
| 12:58.20 | namxo | (i think) |
| 12:58.21 | namxo | ;p |
| 12:58.23 | otravi | You placed it on curse! |
| 12:58.25 | ckknight | I'm watching The Crying Game, it'd kinda odd |
| 12:58.28 | otravi | It's cursed! |
| 12:58.34 | namxo | af_tooltip seems fine :) |
| 12:58.43 | namxo | i going to replace tipbuddy ;p |
| 12:58.45 | otravi | mini I hope :p |
| 12:58.52 | namxo | nop only af_tooltip |
| 12:58.58 | namxo | no af_tt mini on ui wow ;/ |
| 12:59.05 | namxo | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=539 |
| 12:59.06 | Mikma | namxo: try aftt_extreme too :) |
| 12:59.11 | namxo | i don't like the portrait :p |
| 12:59.30 | Mikma | nuke it off haha |
| 12:59.42 | namxo | why you want i use aftt extreme ? |
| 12:59.44 | namxo | aftt is fine no ? |
| 12:59.58 | Mikma | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=427 <- af_tooltip 5.8 |
| 13:00.26 | namxo | ok thanks; but no extreme so ;) |
| 13:04.16 | namxo | on the us forum, you can see guy who waits ONE minute for loading an instance |
| 13:04.18 | namxo | is awesome |
| 13:04.29 | namxo | with my addon it take 15 sec :/ |
| 13:04.38 | namxo | this guy must have 100mo of addons ;p |
| 13:04.41 | otravi | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2206 > AF_Tooltip |
| 13:04.41 | namxo | these |
| 13:04.47 | Mikma | that's pretty long |
| 13:04.51 | namxo | very yep :) |
| 13:05.04 | Mikma | with Tem's addon it takes 2-5 secs |
| 13:05.43 | namxo | hu, the mini version have a mouse anchor ? |
| 13:05.45 | namxo | i don't like that :( |
| 13:05.57 | namxo | without addon 15 sec |
| 13:05.59 | namxo | with addon 15sec |
| 13:05.59 | namxo | :D |
| 13:06.00 | Mikma | well, Tem had 1s zoning with his pc |
| 13:06.36 | namxo | hum.. |
| 13:06.55 | namxo | 382KiB of addon according to wu |
| 13:07.03 | namxo | but it's only with ace + ep + wu |
| 13:07.04 | namxo | :D |
| 13:07.24 | namxo | anyone healer here ? |
| 13:07.30 | namxo | maybe you will appreciate the next module of ep |
| 13:07.30 | Mikma | ya |
| 13:07.33 | namxo | EP_StatsHeal |
| 13:07.50 | namxo | mini dialog to see heal, crit, overheal |
| 13:07.53 | namxo | (very accurate) |
| 13:08.00 | Mikma | ep as? |
| 13:08.03 | namxo | the most accurate (in french in fact) |
| 13:08.07 | Mikma | easypriest? |
| 13:08.09 | namxo | not many test with english client :D |
| 13:08.11 | namxo | yep |
| 13:08.32 | namxo | lots of french like this mini dialog :) |
| 13:08.43 | namxo | it's very interesting no without mc ;D |
| 13:09.02 | namxo | i have made it many month ago, but only a french version |
| 13:09.14 | namxo | it's no compatible in english (in theory :p) |
| 13:09.38 | namxo | 130 KiB alone EP_StatsHeal |
| 13:09.51 | namxo | i think Recap, SW_Stats, DamageMeter must take more |
| 13:09.58 | namxo | but they do lots of stuff ;p |
| 13:10.06 | namxo | EP_StatsHeal is tiny lol |
| 13:10.30 | namxo | you will see, if you want ;p |
| 13:10.48 | [MoonWolf] | namxo, get less similar names |
| 13:11.00 | namxo | sorry ? |
| 13:11.01 | [MoonWolf] | im looking at my chat and your names yust blurr into one. |
| 13:11.11 | namxo | ah ah ;p |
| 13:11.28 | [MoonWolf] | that goes for you too Mikma :P |
| 13:11.47 | HelloMyNameIsMik | ;) |
| 13:11.56 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | is nicer ? |
| 13:11.56 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | ;p |
| 13:12.02 | [MoonWolf] | yes |
| 13:12.06 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | fine :D |
| 13:12.14 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | this nick is well design |
| 13:12.15 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | ;p |
| 13:12.26 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | lots of design school have work on it |
| 13:12.27 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | :p |
| 13:18.11 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | hum sorry |
| 13:18.16 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | whats the format of date ? |
| 13:18.19 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | dd-mm-yyyy ? |
| 13:18.24 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | mm-dd-yyyy ? |
| 13:18.59 | [MoonWolf] | that depends on where you live |
| 13:18.59 | Mikma | depends the place you live |
| 13:19.09 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | american i want say |
| 13:19.10 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | :D |
| 13:19.21 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | in french it's dd-mm-yyyy |
| 13:19.22 | [MoonWolf] | usa keeps to mm-dd-yyyy |
| 13:19.30 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | thanks |
| 13:19.51 | [MoonWolf] | otherwise look for the number that can possibly be a month... |
| 13:20.07 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | i like the version of my addon : 3.2.1 |
| 13:20.07 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | ;D |
| 13:20.11 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 13:24.06 | Mikma | oh goodie, aftt_extreme's about to have updates really soon |
| 13:25.08 | otravi | oh? |
| 13:27.12 | Mikma | hmm.. it a person didn't do the addon but is maintaining it, which is the proper word to call him? Modder? |
| 13:29.29 | otravi | maintainer? |
| 13:29.59 | Mikma | well was thinking of something better but can't figure out what to call him ;) |
| 13:30.54 | Mikma | well okies, according to the maintainer of aftt_extreme he's about to release a new version |
| 13:32.22 | [Ammo] | no complaints about tooltip mishaps for now *twiddles thumbs* |
| 13:34.50 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=906 |
| 13:34.51 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | it's done ;) |
| 13:35.09 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | i will give a shoot of statsheal in few minutes or hour (i'm at work) |
| 13:35.55 | id` | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW: change nick please |
| 13:36.05 | id` | Mikma: did you take a look at the code? |
| 13:36.09 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW | [MoonWolf] don't like my previous nick :'( |
| 13:36.18 | id` | tough luch |
| 13:36.21 | id` | luck( |
| 13:36.25 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 13:36.32 | oxman | blame [MoonWolf] ;p |
| 13:36.48 | oxman | ah ah |
| 13:36.54 | oxman | ;D |
| 13:37.03 | [MoonWolf] | you cant counter a dodge |
| 13:37.10 | oxman | i can |
| 13:37.12 | id` | lol |
| 13:37.14 | oxman | because i'm superman |
| 13:37.14 | oxman | ;p |
| 13:37.16 | id` | watcha going to do |
| 13:37.20 | Mikma | id`: yeah i did, at the moment it's a bit too complicated for me but seems... short haha |
| 13:37.24 | id` | dodge his ddodge? |
| 13:37.40 | id` | Mikma: want some explanation, ill be happy to :o |
| 13:39.02 | Mikma | id`: not yet, i'll look it again and try to understand it :D |
| 13:39.10 | otravi | id`: no you n00b, he evades the dodge |
| 13:39.36 | id` | otravi: so moonwolf dodged AT his opponent? |
| 13:39.41 | id` | [MoonWolf]: gj |
| 13:39.46 | id` | Mikma: haha k |
| 13:40.10 | [MoonWolf] | dodge to your opponent, close space so he cant swing his arm. |
| 13:40.16 | [MoonWolf] | the strangle him! |
| 13:40.29 | id` | like mixed martial arts |
| 13:40.33 | id` | aka free fighting |
| 13:40.33 | id` | :p |
| 13:41.29 | id` | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=251766808320134898&q=mma&pl=true |
| 13:41.33 | id` | >:) |
| 13:42.24 | [MoonWolf] | some of those guys have real agression problems. |
| 13:42.48 | [MoonWolf] | look, he stopped moving already, he isnt DOING ANYTHING stop hitting him. |
| 13:43.17 | id` | thats temporary |
| 13:43.19 | id` | :p |
| 13:43.41 | id` | same reason karate dudes scream HAI or HUA when attacking |
| 13:43.45 | oxman | a fantastic shoot : http://www.curse-gaming.com/modscreens.php?id=7820 |
| 13:43.45 | oxman | ;D |
| 13:44.08 | id` | scare the opponenet a put alot of power into the attack |
| 13:44.10 | id` | :P |
| 13:44.13 | id` | and put* |
| 13:44.14 | Mikma | id`: rofl the guys have interesting looks on their faces after getting a punch or two |
| 13:44.19 | id` | xD |
| 13:44.25 | Mikma | id`: "wtf is going on, who am i?" |
| 13:44.38 | id` | thats a bit of an aggressive video tho, let me search for one with cool techniques |
| 13:44.58 | id` | (the clips were from an american league mostly - pride - so .. figures..) |
| 13:45.10 | [MoonWolf] | why let your oponent know exactly when to block when by shouting some stupid word. |
| 13:46.35 | Tain | It's done out of love. |
| 13:47.02 | [MoonWolf] | these guys dont love each other in that ring. |
| 13:47.49 | [MoonWolf] | no idea what goes on between them outside of it, but inside it is pure war. |
| 13:48.22 | id` | you can release alot of energy when you shout WHILE performing a move |
| 13:49.02 | [MoonWolf] | can you simply exhale instead of shouting ? |
| 13:49.05 | [MoonWolf] | can't* |
| 13:51.04 | Tain | No. There's a lot behind the reasons. I'm sure it's on wikipedia or something if you wanted to look. |
| 13:51.37 | id` | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-863131944306757023&q=takuma&pl=true |
| 13:51.47 | id` | ernesto hoost (black dude) is my teacher :-) |
| 13:52.00 | id` | good technique here |
| 13:52.10 | id` | (he does lose tho ;9) |
| 13:52.25 | Mikma | oh yeah k1 was the name of that |
| 13:52.29 | [MoonWolf] | its in (asian language0 |
| 13:52.33 | Mikma | i've been wondering it for soem time now |
| 13:52.39 | Tain | I just got Google Calendar going, and I like it already. |
| 13:52.59 | Tain | I can harness my ki and raise my energy level to one million! |
| 13:53.12 | Tain | Kaaaaa meeeeee haaaaaa meeeeee |
| 13:53.31 | id` | +haaaaaaaaaaa |
| 13:54.19 | [MoonWolf] | not a lot happening for now |
| 13:55.01 | id` | [MoonWolf]: no whole match like that |
| 13:55.15 | id` | you can see ernesto is clearly better tho |
| 13:55.29 | [MoonWolf] | but he doesnt win. |
| 13:55.40 | Tain | I have to go get an SD card. Damn In ever thought I'd be in flash memory hell, now I have things that use SD, Memory Stick, and Compact Flash |
| 14:01.01 | Tekkub | hrm... too bad I have no schedule to manage... I need a google todo list |
| 14:01.10 | id` | mr aggressive ramon dekkers: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5897520039219166927&q=ramon+dekkers&pl=true |
| 14:01.56 | Tain | 2gb SD for $65 delivered, and a $20 mail-in-rebate? I'll take it. |
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| 14:15.59 | Tekkub | Cair! You dirty frostback! |
| 14:18.43 | Cairenn | night Tekkub, sweet dreams |
| 14:25.58 | hyperactiveZzzzz | lol he's been waiting like 6h to say that |
| 14:26.43 | Cairenn | heh, why? |
| 14:27.07 | Cairenn | he is one very silly furry |
| 14:27.53 | hyperChipmunk | sec |
| 14:28.47 | hyperChipmunk | 03:52 < Tekkub> oh I heard the greatest slang insult the other day |
| 14:28.47 | hyperChipmunk | 03:52 < Tekkub> one I'd never heard before :) |
| 14:28.50 | hyperChipmunk | 03:53 < Tekkub> a hispanic calling Canadiens "Frostbacks" |
| 14:28.57 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 14:29.05 | hyperChipmunk | some discussion followed... |
| 14:29.16 | Cairenn | and of course, I'm one of the few Canucks he knows |
| 14:29.16 | hyperChipmunk | 03:55 < Tekkub> I'm gonna start calling Cair that |
| 14:29.27 | Tain | Hey some of my dates have turned into just that, very cold and turning their back to me. |
| 14:29.29 | Cairenn | lol |
| 14:29.37 | Cairenn | anyway, later guys |
| 14:29.45 | hyperChipmunk | take care |
| 14:29.47 | Tain | Bye Cairenn |
| 14:50.07 | Tain | lemmie |
| 14:50.09 | Tain | err |
| 14:50.26 | Tain | Wrong window! |
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| 15:32.30 | Mikma | really interesting comments there on aftt extreme pages in ui.worldofwar.net |
| 15:36.39 | Wobin_ | linky? |
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| 15:38.56 | Mikma | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2416 |
| 15:38.57 | id` | gangster* |
| 15:39.16 | Mikma | they are something like "doesn't work with FlagRSP therefore it sucks" |
| 15:40.21 | [MoonWolf] | id`, wow, you are such a nice person. |
| 15:40.32 | [MoonWolf] | try that with me and there will be fighting. |
| 15:41.11 | Eraphine|Lab | hrm, does the default use register bagupdates and whatnot? |
| 15:41.17 | Eraphine|Lab | default ui |
| 15:41.23 | Eraphine|Lab | Probably huh? |
| 15:41.30 | [MoonWolf] | most likely |
| 15:41.31 | id` | [MoonWolf]: Ik heb voorrang, die leiers moeten hun plaats weten. |
| 15:41.41 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 15:41.46 | Shyva | haha id` ^^ |
| 15:42.14 | [MoonWolf] | Aan de andere kant, ben ik normaal gesproken redelijk beleeft. |
| 15:42.45 | id` | [MoonWolf]: ik stap uit dus ik ga eerst. als ik zelf fout ben geef ik dat graag toe. Niet geheel tot mijn spijt - kheb er zelfs lol in - hebben dat soort mensen nooit geleerd wat goed en fout is. (Ik woon in de bijlmer, amsterdam) |
| 15:43.02 | id` | </dutch> |
| 15:43.37 | Wobin_ | No really? =P |
| 15:43.40 | id` | ;x |
| 15:44.30 | [MoonWolf] | Ik heb een oom in de pijp wonen </dutch> |
| 15:44.42 | [MoonWolf] | teminste ik dacht dat het daar de pijp hete. |
| 15:45.06 | Wobin_ | oh no! |
| 15:45.11 | Wobin_ | Unterminated dutch =P |
| 15:45.28 | [MoonWolf] | <dutch> |
| 15:45.33 | [MoonWolf] | whitespace doesnt get parsed |
| 15:45.43 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 15:45.54 | [MoonWolf] | s/<dutch>/<\/dutch>\ |
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| 15:54.07 | Ratbert_CP | Hmmm... Want to do rules-based decisions, and considering building the rules as functions via loadstring(). Am I crazy? |
| 15:55.03 | Ratbert_CP | Rules are encoded in some fashion, then the functions built at load time in an ordered list of functions that the processor can run through until a result is returned. |
| 15:56.34 | Ratbert_CP | i.e.: |
| 15:56.34 | Ratbert_CP | local result = nil |
| 15:56.34 | Ratbert_CP | foreach _, f in rulesList do |
| 15:56.34 | Ratbert_CP | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.34 | Ratbert_CP | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.35 | Ratbert_CP | end |
| 15:57.37 | Ratbert_CP | s/in rulesList/in ipairs(rulesList)/ |
| 16:03.59 | Ratbert_CP | Hmmm... I'll have to play with loadstring later. I should be able to do something like: tinsert(rulesList, loadstring("function(itemlink) do something(itemlink) return false end")), right? |
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| 16:15.38 | Wobin_ | loadstring is very... |
| 16:15.39 | Wobin_ | bah |
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| 16:44.48 | Wobin_ | has PT got the new enchanting bags and stuff in it? |
| 16:56.23 | Wobin_ | Tekkub: There's a 24slot enchanting bag as well itemid22249 |
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| 17:07.49 | Tem | rawr! |
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| 17:10.25 | [MoonWolf] | Woof! |
| 17:11.59 | Eraphine|Lab | So Tem. |
| 17:12.05 | Tem | aye? |
| 17:12.06 | Eraphine|Lab | Catalyst is getting a lot of publicity |
| 17:12.10 | Tem | I see that |
| 17:12.24 | Tem | I'm happy in that people won't use the spider nonsense |
| 17:12.32 | Eraphine|Lab | He fixed that btw. |
| 17:12.41 | Eraphine|Lab | He's using enumerate now |
| 17:12.51 | Tem | yay! Catalyst worked then |
| 17:13.05 | Eraphine|Lab | Yeah it definitely works and it's always near the top for performers |
| 17:13.16 | Eraphine|Lab | Have you seen the unofficial benchmarks? |
| 17:13.21 | Tem | no |
| 17:13.27 | Tem | haven't really been looking |
| 17:13.35 | Tem | but it's annoying me that an addon I spent 5 minutes writing has gotten more downloads than anything I've ever written |
| 17:13.47 | Tem | things I've spent days coding |
| 17:13.57 | Eraphine|Lab | http://demonmagnet.com/elitistforum/viewtopic.php?t=1073 |
| 17:14.19 | Tem | heh |
| 17:14.24 | Tem | he says catalyst is the best |
| 17:14.47 | Eraphine|Lab | If you "already" run ace |
| 17:14.49 | Eraphine|Lab | it's a nobrainer |
| 17:15.11 | Tem | oh damnit! |
| 17:15.14 | Tem | someone noticed |
| 17:15.38 | Tem | "Although i dont know if this is a bug or something but i noticed a 2mb memory increase after the first instance zoning change." |
| 17:15.59 | Tem | that's because AceHook creates a table for each thing you hook |
| 17:16.07 | Tem | and I have to hook like 5000 frames |
| 17:17.11 | Tem | hmm |
| 17:17.51 | Eraphine | orly |
| 17:19.49 | Tem | so, I either ditch the use of AceHooks and lose all the convenience... |
| 17:20.02 | Tem | or I figure out a way to explain this so that people don't care |
| 17:20.27 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:21.09 | Wobin_ | do you clear the table afterwards? |
| 17:22.15 | Tem | no |
| 17:22.22 | Tem | AceHooks does not clear the table after |
| 17:22.26 | Tem | it reuses it |
| 17:22.35 | Tem | which is how it should be |
| 17:22.49 | Tem | so, after the first zone, it has no memory impact at all |
| 17:23.04 | Tem | and it never effects gc |
| 17:23.17 | Tem | only collectable things cause gc |
| 17:24.20 | Eraphine | well if you don't fix it people are going to use the other addon |
| 17:25.51 | Tem | not too sure about that |
| 17:25.55 | Wobin_ | But is this a popularity contest? =P |
| 17:26.05 | Wobin_ | Just figure out how to explain it |
| 17:26.12 | Tem | I did a bit of looking and it seems most people have accepted it as the "best" |
| 17:28.20 | Eraphine | yes - that's the spin |
| 17:28.22 | Tain | Ehn yeah uh users are dumb, they can use whatever they want. |
| 17:29.11 | Eraphine | Is there a reason to hook all 5000 frames? |
| 17:29.16 | Tem | aye |
| 17:29.51 | Tem | there is no way to know which frames are and aren't registered for The Black Four |
| 17:30.33 | [MoonWolf] | i use catalyst and ill take hooking 4000 frames over the other things. |
| 17:32.06 | Mikma | heh... "@Mikma: the 3d modell is a good idea and i think i can implement that." |
| 17:32.23 | otravi | in a tooltip? |
| 17:32.29 | Mikma | yeah, aftt extreme |
| 17:32.41 | Mikma | replaces the images with 3d model or so |
| 17:33.06 | [MoonWolf] | no thank you |
| 17:33.08 | [MoonWolf] | that is evil |
| 17:33.12 | [MoonWolf] | i hate the 3d frames |
| 17:33.51 | Mikma | well it suits perfectly in aftt |
| 17:34.44 | hyperChipmunk | cuz it's EXTREME |
| 17:35.04 | Mikma | nihaha :D yeah. ok bbl going to get pizza |
| 17:35.38 | Eraphine | hrm I thought ... there is no way to check what events a frame is registered for? |
| 17:35.48 | [MoonWolf] | nope |
| 17:36.55 | Tem | hmm |
| 17:36.56 | Tain | You can cycle through a list of events and check each one against a frame though. |
| 17:37.02 | Tem | should I leave this last line out? ". If you are that worried about 2MiBs of UI memory, then you either have a computer that shouldn't be running wow to begin with or you're paranoid." |
| 17:37.10 | Tain | Yes, you should. |
| 17:37.23 | hyperChipmunk | you put that in and you'll have a riot |
| 17:37.25 | Eraphine | yes you should |
| 17:37.49 | Eraphine | your uimem stack affects your zoning times too |
| 17:37.51 | hyperChipmunk | just tell 'em what it is and what impact it really has |
| 17:38.24 | Eraphine | it's the same thing as having a database with 5000 tables in it. |
| 17:38.36 | Eraphine | akin to, say, a lootlink database. |
| 17:38.38 | hyperChipmunk | i hate users as much as the next guy, but no reason to hide the truth |
| 17:38.46 | Tem | I'm gonna try something different |
| 17:38.54 | Wobin_ | oo |
| 17:38.59 | Tem | I'm gonna see what happens if I make the Ace dependency optional |
| 17:39.29 | Eraphine | you're going to write your own hooking script? |
| 17:39.54 | Tem | well |
| 17:40.05 | Tem | the biggest benefits to using AceHooks is for safe hooks |
| 17:40.13 | Tem | which, I really really really doubt that I need |
| 17:40.36 | Eraphine | so don't make ace optional, just use your own hooking script |
| 17:40.54 | Eraphine | or ask that kaelten adjust ace so taht you can pass an arguemtn to not generate a table |
| 17:42.29 | Eraphine | the only thing is.. at that point, the only difference between your addon and nytsloadingtimes is that you use a bloacklist and he's using a whitelist |
| 17:42.53 | Eraphine | aside from the fact that your code is neat. |
| 17:44.55 | Tem | In my opinion, a blacklist is important |
| 17:45.04 | Tem | a whitelist is just asking for trouble |
| 17:45.10 | Tain | Yeah. |
| 17:45.32 | Tem | hmm |
| 17:45.43 | Tem | should I release my table after I'm done hooking? |
| 17:46.23 | Tem | or should I keep it around to mitigate doing it over |
| 17:46.28 | Tain | Aren't you reusing it? Or are you suggesting recreating it each zone |
| 17:47.11 | Tem | I was recreating it each zone |
| 17:47.26 | Tem | because EnumerateFrames is crazy fast |
| 17:53.13 | Tem | well |
| 17:53.15 | Tem | there we go |
| 17:53.20 | Tem | no memory impact at all |
| 17:54.24 | Tem | Eraphine: the reason I was going to make Ace optional is the only main feature I was using of Ace is the hooks |
| 17:54.27 | Tem | now that I'm not.... |
| 17:54.32 | Tem | it's kind of a waste |
| 17:55.02 | Tem | (for people not already running ace) |
| 17:55.06 | Tain | You could also have just embedded AceHooks itself without Ace. |
| 17:56.24 | Tain | Of course if you don't need to use it at all then all the better. |
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| 18:13.57 | Tain | Oh hey it's Jack Chick's birthday. |
| 18:15.39 | Tain | Website is slow now, but if you've never read Chick Tracts you're missing out on some good stuff. http://www.chick.com/catalog/tractlist.asp |
| 18:33.05 | Slayman | WoW my WoW crashed after UI reload damn it! |
| 18:35.34 | Slayman | while talking here is some really AWESOME Stuff for you, u'll love it: http://www.bestofgooglevideo.com/video.php?video=218 |
| 18:41.10 | Mikma | Slayman: somehow that reminds me of The Incredible Machine |
| 18:41.54 | Slayman | yeah me too but those Japanese ones are Insane! the crazy machines are kinda lame |
| 18:43.26 | Mikma | they're not insane, they just don't have any better things to do with their lives :D |
| 18:45.42 | [MoonWolf] | Japanese are not insane, they simply have a different definition of normal. |
| 19:01.02 | Slayman | MooWolf: which kinda is the same thing ... |
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| 19:27.20 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, I'm reviewing your BatFu code |
| 19:27.24 | ckknight | some of it is bad |
| 19:29.33 | Tain | "Some people are like slinky toys, not really good for anything, but still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs..." |
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| 19:48.20 | Mikma | http://www.reaktio.net/~mikma/wowss/afttsquare.png |
| 19:48.41 | Mikma | there's the 3D model within aftt extreme + texturemods |
| 19:49.00 | Mikma | the portrait is round normally, but with the texturemod it's square |
| 19:50.04 | Wobin_ | looks a bit cramped =\ |
| 19:50.50 | Wobin_ | anyway. night! |
| 19:50.55 | Eraphine | hrm where is warmup? |
| 19:51.08 | Wobin_ | on ui.worldofwar |
| 19:51.11 | Wobin_ | or the svn |
| 19:51.12 | Eraphine | ah k |
| 19:51.14 | Wobin_ | I think |
| 19:51.15 | Eraphine | i checked svn |
| 19:51.36 | Eraphine | the .toc doesn't look right |
| 19:51.57 | Mikma | take the one from ui.worlfofwar.net |
| 19:52.01 | Mikma | it's working |
| 19:52.01 | Wobin_ | why not? |
| 19:53.03 | Wobin_ | pretty sure it's the same though |
| 19:53.25 | Mikma | the one from svn doesn't work properly |
| 19:53.33 | Mikma | atleast didn't this morning |
| 19:54.58 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: >8( |
| 19:55.17 | hyperChipmunk | though I never claimed it was good |
| 19:55.41 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, I have created GloryLib |
| 19:55.41 | hyperChipmunk | actually, I'm happy you brought it up; I'm always looking for advice on improving it |
| 19:55.47 | hyperChipmunk | =D |
| 19:55.55 | ckknight | now HonorFu no longer handles like any data |
| 19:56.07 | ckknight | just display now |
| 19:56.12 | hyperChipmunk | very nice |
| 19:56.15 | hyperChipmunk | checkign it out now |
| 19:56.22 | ckknight | I haven't committed |
| 19:56.26 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 19:56.30 | ckknight | still testing and whatnot |
| 19:56.32 | hyperChipmunk | ok, not checking it out now |
| 19:56.33 | ckknight | I'll send it to you, though |
| 19:56.42 | hyperChipmunk | appreciated |
| 19:57.00 | ckknight | basically, I want to put the BG functions you have in there as well |
| 19:57.10 | Eraphine | hrm.. tem |
| 19:57.12 | hyperChipmunk | that would be great |
| 19:57.14 | Eraphine | what did you do ? |
| 19:57.17 | Eraphine | to catalyst? install a wrapper? |
| 19:57.37 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, it works on its own, but you can register with events for it |
| 19:57.44 | Tem | what do you mean? |
| 19:57.44 | hyperChipmunk | but it'll have to be better-optimized, i think, if it's going to be in a library |
| 19:57.44 | ckknight | e.g. FLAG_UPDATE |
| 19:57.47 | Eraphine | Sorry |
| 19:57.49 | hyperChipmunk | oooooh |
| 19:57.52 | Eraphine | I'm trying to understand how you avoid the tables |
| 19:58.02 | hyperChipmunk | <3 ckknight |
| 19:58.09 | Tem | instead of letting AceHook make lost of tables, I used one table |
| 19:58.10 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, so if you just have it running, it'll track your honor, kills, deaths, bg wins, losses, whatnot |
| 19:58.21 | ckknight | and it triggers events whenever something happens |
| 19:58.29 | Tem | actually, I need to play with AceHook to see if I can optimize it for this |
| 19:58.31 | Eraphine | so, you're not using acehook? |
| 19:58.33 | ckknight | I don't have an API writeup yet, so you'll have to look at the code |
| 19:58.38 | hyperChipmunk | actually, there's an event you can look to that triggers whenever "something" happens in a bg |
| 19:58.46 | Tem | no, I'm not using AceHook anymore :( |
| 19:58.48 | hyperChipmunk | it gives no useful information whatsoever |
| 19:58.54 | hyperChipmunk | but it's pretty consistent |
| 19:59.14 | hyperChipmunk | it's the UPDATE_WORLD_STATES one, or something like that |
| 19:59.34 | ckknight | hrm |
| 19:59.47 | hyperChipmunk | fires on flag pickups, node challenges, flag drops, captures, objectives destroyed |
| 19:59.55 | hyperChipmunk | but it gives no args |
| 20:00.04 | Mikma | hmm |
| 20:00.06 | hyperChipmunk | just thought you might be able to use it; it's not obvious at all |
| 20:00.57 | kergoth` | Mikma: wheres the texturemod for aftt? |
| 20:01.02 | kergoth` | bleh, today sucks |
| 20:01.07 | ckknight | sent, hyperChipmunk |
| 20:01.35 | [MoonWolf] | I still love informatips |
| 20:01.36 | hyperChipmunk | thx |
| 20:01.45 | Mikma | kergoth`: i downloaded http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1716 and put the folder in Interface |
| 20:01.47 | [MoonWolf] | i JUST WORKS (tm) |
| 20:01.53 | Mikma | not in Interface/AddOns ... |
| 20:02.40 | hyperChipmunk | UPDATE_WORLD_STATES...wtf were they thinking..."gee, can anyone think of a good name for this event? it fires only in the battlegrounds when a change in the objectives occurs." |
| 20:02.55 | hyperChipmunk | "BATTLEFIELD_OBJECTIVE_UPDATE?" |
| 20:03.00 | hyperChipmunk | "no, no, that's too obvious |
| 20:03.11 | Mikma | kergoth`: basicly it's just 2x .tga files which will be loaded over blizzards round ones |
| 20:03.12 | hyperChipmunk | "UPDATE_BATTLEFIELD_STATES?" |
| 20:03.36 | hyperChipmunk | "hmm, we're getting there, but I still think it needs to be more frustrating for a would-be addon author to uncover" |
| 20:03.39 | Mikma | but now i'm wondering can the 2 textures be loaded within .lua |
| 20:03.50 | hyperChipmunk | "I know! UPDATE_WORLD_STATES!" |
| 20:04.01 | hyperChipmunk | "PERFECT! /commit" |
| 20:04.54 | Mikma | hyperChipmunk: :D |
| 20:05.22 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, *sigh* |
| 20:05.45 | Tain | I'm just glad we get to know so often that the guild tabard may now be changed. |
| 20:07.18 | ckknight | take a look at the code, I think it's pretty nice |
| 20:07.42 | ckknight | for every UPDATE_HORDE_WHATEVER, I have an UPDATE_FRIENDLY_WHATEVER or an UPDATE_HOSTILE_WHATEVER |
| 20:07.49 | ckknight | depending on your faction |
| 20:09.28 | hyperChipmunk | very nice |
| 20:09.39 | hyperChipmunk | cuts code in half =) |
| 20:09.53 | otravi | hmm, I just fell asleep in BWL :< |
| 20:10.00 | hyperChipmunk | wtg nub |
| 20:10.11 | otravi | and no one of the other people that sits next to me woke me up :< |
| 20:10.18 | hyperChipmunk | hehehe |
| 20:10.50 | otravi | well, that 20min power nap will keep me going at least a couple of hours more |
| 20:11.01 | hyperChipmunk | that's the spirit =D |
| 20:12.05 | Mikma | kergoth`: oh yeah there's a problem with the .tga's, try opening character-menu and see ;) |
| 20:12.47 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, I really wish I had a lvl 60 to test the AB and AV stuff out on |
| 20:13.11 | otravi | Isn't a L51 enough :D |
| 20:13.19 | hyperChipmunk | well I'm your man |
| 20:13.40 | hyperChipmunk | I can probably catch a lot of stuff by eye |
| 20:13.51 | hyperChipmunk | I think you only need to be lv20 for AB, also |
| 20:13.55 | ckknight | yea, I know |
| 20:14.08 | ckknight | my highest is 18 |
| 20:14.12 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 20:14.22 | ckknight | I used to have a higher one, but I changed servers |
| 20:14.31 | ckknight | and since then, I have mostly been coding |
| 20:14.37 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 20:14.42 | weab | did you delete it since you switched servers or something? |
| 20:16.19 | hyperChipmunk | prolly better to let me do it anyway; people tend to get kinda peeved if you're coding in a battleground =) |
| 20:16.44 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:16.56 | hyperChipmunk | my team is used to it |
| 20:17.04 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, think you can code the extra functions into GloryLib? |
| 20:17.16 | hyperChipmunk | and even willing to help |
| 20:17.19 | ckknight | I made it reasonably simple to do so |
| 20:17.28 | hyperChipmunk | i can't guarantee they won't suck |
| 20:17.37 | ckknight | I can clean it up |
| 20:17.42 | ckknight | I just need to get the base down |
| 20:17.47 | hyperChipmunk | absolutely |
| 20:18.06 | ckknight | basically, you cannot interact with the user in any way whatsoever, except through triggering events |
| 20:18.17 | ckknight | that's pretty much the rule |
| 20:18.18 | weab | only wsg is tough to code in and not get yelled at |
| 20:18.41 | weab | ab is more difficult if you can't stealth |
| 20:19.00 | hyperChipmunk | av actually harder than ab |
| 20:19.12 | hyperChipmunk | cuz you don't necessarily go in with people you know |
| 20:19.26 | hyperChipmunk | sooner or later, someone starts gripin |
| 20:19.27 | weab | maybe it's my server, but i never have problems slacking off in av :P |
| 20:20.00 | hyperChipmunk | when the Grand Marshal is spending 4 hours in the harpy cave, people start to wonder |
| 20:20.10 | weab | i just go stealth by an enemy gy! |
| 20:20.24 | weab | that way they think i'm trying to take it |
| 20:20.57 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I found the best way to do it is shadowmeld at the second-frontmost gy |
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| 20:21.35 | hyperChipmunk | and I can hold a gy even while coding against anything less than 6-7 attackers |
| 20:21.52 | hyperChipmunk | so it frees a bunch of people up to be useful |
| 20:23.19 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, yea, so the user should be able to get all the info from events or from methods, and never from fields |
| 20:23.24 | ckknight | that's pretty much it, afaik |
| 20:23.26 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 20:23.34 | hyperChipmunk | what functions do you want in there? |
| 20:24.05 | ckknight | GetNumKillingBlows() |
| 20:24.06 | ckknight | and such |
| 20:24.41 | ckknight | get the current bg id (e.g. Warsong Gulch 3) |
| 20:24.49 | ckknight | pretty much any other helper methods |
| 20:25.11 | ckknight | pretty much, BattlegroundFu should not work with any raw data |
| 20:25.17 | hyperChipmunk | beautiful =) |
| 20:25.22 | ckknight | once you get that, then it's good |
| 20:25.34 | hyperChipmunk | alright, I get it now |
| 20:25.56 | ckknight | yea, so BattlegroundFu should not have to mess with the game scoreboard pretty much at all |
| 20:26.11 | ckknight | once we get this, then I plan to take all the BG stuff out of Honor, leave in the basic PvP stuff |
| 20:26.21 | ckknight | cooldown, etc. |
| 20:26.37 | ckknight | and you should take out all the basic stuff in BatFu and have it be BG-specific |
| 20:26.43 | hyperChipmunk | yea, it's gonna make me cry, being so close to what I thought was completion, but it's better in the long run this way |
| 20:26.50 | ckknight | oh yes |
| 20:27.20 | ckknight | and the nice thing about this is that if some 3rd party addon wants to use it as well, they can, without creating extra data, cause embedded libraries are shiny |
| 20:27.50 | ckknight | all you have to do is add the lua file to the toc, and add ## SavedVariablesPerCharacter: GloryLibDB |
| 20:28.15 | hyperChipmunk | yep, I understand that part at least =) |
| 20:28.35 | ckknight | the saved variables deal is pretty elegant |
| 20:28.46 | hyperChipmunk | oh you figured that out? |
| 20:29.11 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:29.21 | hyperChipmunk | bah, wru lua syntax folding |
| 20:29.36 | ckknight | the saved variables can exist in multiple addons with the same name |
| 20:29.48 | ckknight | with the method I used, it intelligently merges based on the most recent |
| 20:34.27 | hyperChipmunk | nice |
| 20:43.34 | hyperChipmunk | alrighty...I have pizza, I have caffeine |
| 20:43.50 | [MoonWolf] | is the pizza cold yet ? |
| 20:44.04 | hyperChipmunk | it will be by the time I remember it's there =P |
| 20:44.40 | [MoonWolf] | kk |
| 20:44.40 | [MoonWolf] | you are ready |
| 20:44.40 | hyperChipmunk | >8) |
| 20:45.44 | Tain | It's ok to start out with the pizza hot as long as there's enough for there to be even more cold later. |
| 20:46.46 | hyperChipmunk | plenty |
| 20:48.56 | ckknight | btw, hyperChipmunk, you can pass arguments with events |
| 20:49.33 | id` | TROLLHAMMAREN! |
| 20:49.36 | id` | >_< |
| 20:50.07 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I know there are events that pass args |
| 20:50.25 | hyperChipmunk | figuring out how to make my own events, and then I'll worry about them passing args |
| 20:50.52 | ckknight | Trigger(self, "MY_EVENT") |
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| 20:57.29 | id` | [MoonWolf]: know this band? |
| 21:04.25 | [MoonWolf] | nope |
| 21:04.27 | [MoonWolf] | going to bed |
| 21:04.37 | id` | .. k that was quick? |
| 21:06.18 | id` | Abandoned broken and bleeding. A feast for their eyes a spectacle. A martyr of the forsaken. A scapegoat for their suffering. Burn me alive. I feel the hatred behind their eyes. Burn me alive. |
| 21:07.22 | id` | A silence falls through the masses. The cruelest display of sacrifice. A saviour for the abandoned. A scapegoat for their suffering. Burn me alive. I feel the hatred behind their eyes. Burn me alive. In eager circles to watch me die. Burn me. |
| 21:07.26 | id` | ;o |
| 21:08.08 | hyperChipmunk | hm, should I put the "RequestBattlefieldScoreData()" function to get updated scoreboard data under every scoreboard-related function, or should that be left to the user, like they'd have to do now? |
| 21:08.18 | hyperChipmunk | that sounds like worlds of pleasantness, id |
| 21:08.26 | id` | ^^ |
| 21:08.37 | id` | LALALAL!! I lold! |
| 21:09.45 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, RequestBattlefieldScoreData() requests data from the server, then later an event fires |
| 21:09.54 | hyperChipmunk | I guess it makes sense, since the function gets the local score info; the mod author can decide when/how frequently he wants to update the score data |
| 21:09.59 | ckknight | I saw an error in your code that called it, then immediately tried to work with the data |
| 21:10.06 | otravi | damn, I just found a nasty little think in CTRA :( |
| 21:10.30 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 21:10.40 | hyperChipmunk | how did you find that out? |
| 21:10.42 | otravi | I need to change the version report in oRA now... since it gets tagged as non-valid source for checks |
| 21:10.53 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, i know all1 |
| 21:10.55 | ckknight | !* |
| 21:10.55 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 21:11.16 | hyperChipmunk | so I'ma just leave that to the mod author then |
| 21:11.25 | hyperChipmunk | and hope they're not as dumb as I am |
| 21:11.52 | ckknight | alright |
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| 21:12.14 | hyperChipmunk | since that's what the GetBattlefieldScore function does annyway |
| 21:13.00 | hyperChipmunk | libraries are for presenting data, not for thinking for the would-be developer |
| 21:14.41 | Firedancer | anyone have any idea why the wowace svn version of warmup won't create its SVs (which causes errors on three lines) ? |
| 21:20.36 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: would you mind taking a look at this and telling me what's wrong with it before I get too far in? |
| 21:20.57 | ckknight | yea, sure |
| 21:22.53 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastebin.com/658527 |
| 21:23.33 | hyperChipmunk | er, ignore the indenting weirdness |
| 21:23.36 | hyperChipmunk | dunno why it's got that =) |
| 21:23.55 | ckknight | I know the problem |
| 21:24.08 | ckknight | change function lib:GetStanding(self) to function lib:GetStanding() |
| 21:24.11 | ckknight | the colon implies self |
| 21:24.27 | ckknight | function lib.GetStanding(self) = function lib:GetStanding() |
| 21:24.35 | hyperChipmunk | ah, right /nod |
| 21:24.45 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:24.53 | ckknight | I didn't like The Crying Game |
| 21:25.01 | ckknight | just wasn't that good to me |
| 21:25.06 | weab | is ## Interface: 11000 out of date now? |
| 21:25.08 | hyperChipmunk | wuh? |
| 21:25.27 | ckknight | no, weab |
| 21:25.48 | weab | oh, guess i just didnt update any of my mods at all :P |
| 21:25.50 | Firedancer | argh. i can't get the new or old version of warmup to work :( |
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| 21:27.17 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: anything else other than that? |
| 21:27.33 | Neriak | hi there |
| 21:27.48 | Neriak | ckknight:please check your mail :) |
| 21:27.54 | ckknight | I got it, Neriak |
| 21:28.01 | Neriak | k |
| 21:28.06 | Neriak | intersting huh ? |
| 21:28.07 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, not that I know |
| 21:28.12 | Neriak | interesting even |
| 21:28.12 | ckknight | I'm still reading |
| 21:28.25 | hyperChipmunk | k =) |
| 21:29.45 | ckknight | Neriak, do you have WoW open now? |
| 21:30.22 | Neriak | ckknight:I'll test it again with another viewport setup that's similar to a widescreen movie. I'm curios what will happen to the tooltip |
| 21:30.26 | Neriak | yes I have |
| 21:30.40 | ckknight | type this in: /print MainMenuBar:IsVisible() |
| 21:30.47 | ckknight | it'll say 1 or nil |
| 21:31.29 | Neriak | ckknight: it's saying nil |
| 21:31.41 | ckknight | okay... |
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| 21:32.03 | Neriak | I've got my mainmenubar moved offscreen with x=50000 and it's hidden |
| 21:32.49 | ckknight | FuBarTooltip.lua:1219 change `if offsety < MainMenuBar:GetTop() then` to `if offsety < MainMenuBar:GetTop() and MainMenuBar:IsVisible() then` |
| 21:32.56 | Neriak | to me it's not a big problem, but I'm pretty sure someone else will rant about it ;) |
| 21:32.58 | ckknight | then /rl to reload |
| 21:33.04 | ckknight | and I'm hoping it works |
| 21:34.17 | hyperChipmunk | wfm |
| 21:34.23 | hyperChipmunk | Neriak: already have =) |
| 21:34.45 | Neriak | Yeah, you've fixed it again Boss. |
| 21:34.48 | Neriak | Amazing :P |
| 21:35.27 | Neriak | I'm trying this on my other viewport setup, hang on |
| 21:36.56 | Neriak | ckknight:No more problems. It's working like a charm. /cheer |
| 21:37.15 | ckknight | woot. |
| 21:37.17 | ckknight | I am Omnipotus, devourer of worlds! |
| 21:38.13 | ckknight | somebody made AtlasFu |
| 21:38.13 | ckknight | ... |
| 21:38.50 | hyperChipmunk | all your optimizing trivialized by 6m of textures |
| 21:39.15 | ckknight | ...? |
| 21:39.21 | hyperChipmunk | just think it's funny |
| 21:39.28 | ckknight | wait, what? |
| 21:39.38 | hyperChipmunk | the effort made to shave codesize down |
| 21:39.57 | hyperChipmunk | compared to the ginormity of the texture files that come in atlas |
| 21:40.20 | ckknight | I'm totally gonna be a dick and make ctrl-click on location open Atlas. |
| 21:40.26 | ckknight | that'll show 'em. |
| 21:40.27 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 21:40.50 | hyperChipmunk | oh, right, didn't you already have Atlas support in LocationFu? |
| 21:42.11 | Neriak | I also thought it's already built in |
| 21:42.23 | ckknight | it is, Neriak |
| 21:42.32 | Neriak | I don't use Atlas anymore .. it's too much bloat :P |
| 21:42.34 | ckknight | if you're in an instance and you click LocationFu, it'll open Atlas |
| 21:42.49 | ckknight | Neriak, do you have an alternative? |
| 21:43.06 | Neriak | nothing better than a sixtant and a pencil .. lol |
| 21:43.14 | Neriak | no, not really ;9 |
| 21:43.31 | hyperChipmunk | anyone here run a non-enUS version of wow can look at something for me? |
| 21:43.54 | Neriak | I don't need those map addons. My wife has a perfect sense for orientation, hehe |
| 21:44.17 | Neriak | I'm running a german client, would that fit ? |
| 21:44.29 | hyperChipmunk | yews |
| 21:44.39 | hyperChipmunk | high enough level to join a battleground queue? |
| 21:44.46 | Neriak | yes |
| 21:45.06 | hyperChipmunk | could you do that, then tell me what '/print GetBattlefieldStatus(i)' returns? |
| 21:45.18 | hyperChipmunk | er, |
| 21:45.20 | hyperChipmunk | replace i with 1 |
| 21:45.30 | hyperChipmunk | /print GetBattlefieldStatus(1) |
| 21:46.49 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, Neriak did the German translations for FuBar and HonorFu |
| 21:46.52 | ckknight | good stuff |
| 21:46.58 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 21:48.03 | Neriak | ;) |
| 21:48.20 | Neriak | ok, I'll try it for you hyperChipmunk |
| 21:48.27 | hyperChipmunk | thanks =) |
| 21:48.48 | hyperChipmunk | also, "queued" wouldn't happen to be "queued" in German, I hope |
| 21:49.22 | ckknight | yay |
| 21:49.27 | ckknight | and now I've obseleted AtlasFu. |
| 21:49.31 | ckknight | dicks. |
| 21:49.36 | hyperChipmunk | /high-five ckknight |
| 21:49.47 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:49.52 | ckknight | I had Atlas support already |
| 21:49.57 | hyperChipmunk | dude if you put Atlas in the name it gets you 50000 downloads |
| 21:49.58 | ckknight | they should've just filed a feature request |
| 21:50.12 | ckknight | I'll just put "With Atlas Support" at the top. |
| 21:50.15 | ckknight | zomg. |
| 21:50.45 | hyperChipmunk | also |
| 21:50.50 | hyperChipmunk | if you have CTRA in the title |
| 21:50.52 | hyperChipmunk | same thing |
| 21:51.06 | hyperChipmunk | CTRAFu => d/l count++ |
| 21:51.23 | hyperChipmunk | I'm waiting for TitanFu |
| 21:51.46 | Neriak | hyperChipmunk: I've joined a Warsong queue and it's saying "queued Warsongschlucht 0 60 60" |
| 21:51.54 | hyperChipmunk | beauty |
| 21:52.02 | hyperChipmunk | that "queued" is english? |
| 21:52.08 | Neriak | yes |
| 21:52.10 | hyperChipmunk | good |
| 21:52.22 | ckknight | what's queued in German? |
| 21:52.23 | hyperChipmunk | then I don't have to localize queued, active, and confirm for battlegrounds |
| 21:52.36 | ckknight | is it just queued? |
| 21:52.44 | hyperChipmunk | enqueuedenfrachenhachen |
| 21:52.52 | Neriak | hm it's more than one word in german .. it's like "Warteschlange betreten" |
| 21:52.57 | Neriak | rotfl |
| 21:53.02 | Neriak | hyperChipmunk: ;) |
| 21:53.19 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 21:53.47 | hyperChipmunk | well the "queued" is a different table value than "Warsong Gulch" |
| 21:53.53 | hyperChipmunk | so it wouldn't be run together anyway |
| 21:53.58 | hyperChipmunk | must be your /print function that does that |
| 21:54.35 | Neriak | i can use ace:print if you like |
| 21:54.47 | hyperChipmunk | it's status, mapName, instanceID, minLevel, maxLevel = GetBattlefieldStatus(i) |
| 21:54.58 | hyperChipmunk | nah, I was pretty sure that's what happens anyway |
| 21:55.26 | hyperChipmunk | since bliz don't have it localized in their files either |
| 21:55.50 | hyperChipmunk | but it's used for comparison a lot, so i wanted to be sure |
| 21:56.35 | Neriak | funny is when I ddidn't join anything and type it it's priniting: "noe Östliche Königreiche 0 0 0" where Östliche Königreiche is Eastern Kingdoms |
| 21:56.38 | hyperChipmunk | will a function that runs through without returning anything return nil by default? |
| 21:56.43 | Neriak | "none" not noe |
| 21:56.47 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 21:56.52 | hyperChipmunk | it does that too |
| 21:56.57 | hyperChipmunk | it's like the placeholder |
| 21:57.12 | hyperChipmunk | if you had used an index higher than the # of battlegrounds you queued, you get that |
| 21:57.19 | Neriak | ah ok |
| 21:57.51 | Neriak | hyperChipmunk: do you need more information or can I log in my twink again ? ^^ |
| 21:58.01 | hyperChipmunk | nope =) |
| 21:58.02 | hyperChipmunk | thanks |
| 21:58.08 | Neriak | kk |
| 21:58.10 | Neriak | np at all |
| 21:58.41 | Neriak | damn I need access to the SVN and cladhaire doesn't reply to my spam ;) |
| 21:59.13 | Tain | Did you email? I was set up right away that way. |
| 21:59.16 | Neriak | clad|sleep .... he seems to be sleeping like two days now :P |
| 21:59.33 | ckknight | okay, I committed the new LocationFu, with better Atlas support |
| 21:59.42 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 21:59.45 | Neriak | I did pm him at wowace forums first yesterday. Tonight I've sent him a mail |
| 22:00.11 | hyperChipmunk | FuBar...with new cheap-knockoff-killing power! |
| 22:00.22 | ckknight | fuck knockoffs. |
| 22:00.32 | ckknight | I don't want duplication |
| 22:00.44 | ckknight | that's why I'm working with you, hyperChipmunk, to remove duplication between HonorFu and BatFu |
| 22:00.57 | Neriak | Tain: btw how's your progress at fixing the Visor:Hide/Show and OnScript stuff ? :) |
| 22:01.36 | otravi | I'm unable to commit to the SVN now :< ? |
| 22:01.48 | ckknight | see, this is why I like having my own svn server |
| 22:02.00 | ckknight | because it works |
| 22:02.04 | Neriak | ckknight: Yeh I really hate it when several addons do basically the same and hooking stuff so that your own addon is screwed in the worst case :-/ |
| 22:02.08 | otravi | ah, had to run the password script again |
| 22:02.16 | ckknight | right, Neriak |
| 22:02.32 | ckknight | my current plan is to separate everything into libraries and display portions |
| 22:02.42 | ckknight | I did so with LocationFu and TouristLib |
| 22:02.57 | Neriak | Yup, I like this concept. |
| 22:03.03 | ckknight | now I did HonorFu and GloryLib, hyperChipmunk is adding his BG stuff to GloryLib now |
| 22:03.17 | Neriak | GloryLib hehe .. sweet. |
| 22:03.21 | ckknight | I think libraries are a great thing |
| 22:03.30 | ckknight | cause you do one thing or a specific set of things |
| 22:03.32 | ckknight | and you do them well |
| 22:03.35 | ckknight | and you do them consistently |
| 22:03.41 | ckknight | then you let everyone use em |
| 22:03.49 | Neriak | true. |
| 22:03.51 | hyperChipmunk | or in my case, not well |
| 22:04.02 | ckknight | I'll be cleaning up your code, hyperChipmunk |
| 22:04.10 | ckknight | this'll be better in the long run |
| 22:04.13 | hyperChipmunk | what about all my stuff that relies on string parsing =\ |
| 22:04.25 | ckknight | Neriak, I want FuBar to basically be a small core with lots of supporting libraries |
| 22:04.52 | ckknight | I really wish Blizzard had a more complete GlobalString |
| 22:04.56 | ckknight | GlobalStrings* |
| 22:05.01 | Neriak | I'm all for modularity and separation. |
| 22:05.07 | ckknight | or at least a webpage that has translations |
| 22:05.11 | ckknight | right, Neriak |
| 22:05.49 | hyperChipmunk | like, the only way i can tell if a POI is an objective is to see what the second field is...if it's "In Conflict" or "Destroyed" or "$FACTION Controlled" or "Uncontrolled", then it's an objective...but there's no way for that to be future-proof |
| 22:05.50 | Neriak | Yup, you won't find everything in the GlobalStrings. |
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| 22:06.08 | hyperChipmunk | do we want that stuff in GloryLib? |
| 22:06.27 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:06.57 | ckknight | you don't want to parse anything in BatFu, hyperChipmunk |
| 22:07.06 | ckknight | no outside data manipulation |
| 22:07.09 | ckknight | just through abstraction |
| 22:08.26 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but then everyone will be using that ugly code |
| 22:08.28 | Neriak | ckknight: there's a typo in babblelib at line 505 |
| 22:08.43 | Neriak | ELEMENTAL = "Elementarg", should be changed to ELEMENTAL = "Elementar" |
| 22:09.03 | ckknight | my bad |
| 22:09.18 | ckknight | I stole those from the wow website |
| 22:09.19 | ckknight | copy paste |
| 22:09.20 | Neriak | np, I almost forgot it to mention ;) |
| 22:10.27 | Neriak | I'm really happy about the fact Keymayo was able to fix the freeze in QuestFu, it's a wonderful addon for sure. |
| 22:10.28 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: http://ace.pastebin.com/658615 |
| 22:10.49 | ckknight | committed, Neriak |
| 22:10.51 | hyperChipmunk | now, I'd been using that code as my "IsInBattlegrounds" |
| 22:11.05 | Neriak | ckknight:k, thanks. |
| 22:11.07 | hyperChipmunk | with a return of nil if it didn't return anything meaning I'm not in a battleground |
| 22:11.20 | ckknight | I already have an IsInBattlegrounds method |
| 22:11.21 | hyperChipmunk | should I make two separate functions? |
| 22:11.23 | ckknight | no need to write a new one |
| 22:12.00 | ckknight | oh, but for that |
| 22:12.05 | Neriak | Yeah, I#ve also used Boss's IsInBattlegrounds for a private addon .. works great hehe |
| 22:12.06 | hyperChipmunk | this serves as both a true/false comparison and an output of which one you're in |
| 22:12.07 | ckknight | that returns like "Warsong Gulch 3", right? |
| 22:12.13 | hyperChipmunk | correct |
| 22:12.18 | ckknight | two separate functions |
| 22:12.28 | hyperChipmunk | er actually, it returns "Warsong Gulch3", now that I look at it =) |
| 22:12.40 | ckknight | Neriak, that's in GloryLib now |
| 22:12.58 | ckknight | you'll be free to use it in your addons when I release |
| 22:12.58 | Neriak | oh, good to know :) |
| 22:13.23 | Neriak | damned, I <3 libs *g* |
| 22:13.29 | ckknight | yep |
| 22:13.46 | ckknight | hey, if you ever thinlk of some useful libs, I might be inclined to make em |
| 22:14.43 | Neriak | yup |
| 22:15.57 | ckknight | after GloryLib, I'll likely make a lib for TopScoreFu |
| 22:16.01 | Neriak | But I fear you've already covered up the most important stuff ^^ |
| 22:16.16 | hyperChipmunk | AFTER glorylib |
| 22:16.20 | ckknight | yes, after |
| 22:16.21 | Neriak | lol |
| 22:16.33 | ckknight | but after that one, I won't have any more of my plugins to separate |
| 22:16.41 | ckknight | cause the others are just display stuff |
| 22:16.44 | hyperChipmunk | glorylib is gonna be a mess, dude; you can't believe how much non-API stuff is in the battlegrounds system |
| 22:16.59 | ckknight | non-API? |
| 22:17.04 | Neriak | hey I need a useful WhoLib ;) |
| 22:17.08 | hyperChipmunk | stuff you can't discover through blizzard api stuff |
| 22:17.09 | ckknight | what'd it do? |
| 22:17.29 | ckknight | that's the whole point of writing this, hyperChipmunk |
| 22:17.34 | Neriak | For example get the guildname of someone not in your range, for eg. someone inviting you into a party |
| 22:17.35 | ckknight | that's the point of all my libraries |
| 22:17.45 | ckknight | it's info not supplied to you in the game |
| 22:17.46 | Neriak | I need a 'tool' to parse the who on him. |
| 22:18.15 | ckknight | hrm |
| 22:18.15 | Neriak | GetGuildInfo won't work on someone not in your zone or range |
| 22:18.17 | FryGuy | hmm i can't check out oRA from svn? :( |
| 22:18.18 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but at least stuff like GetKillingBlows() comes from a field in an API function |
| 22:18.41 | ckknight | I want GetKillingBlows(["name"]) |
| 22:18.48 | Neriak | But it's not enough for a lib. A simple function would do it. |
| 22:18.51 | hyperChipmunk | okay |
| 22:18.55 | ckknight | if name is blank, it's you, if it's not blank, it's the name of a person |
| 22:18.58 | hyperChipmunk | simple enough |
| 22:19.02 | Neriak | But it could be extended for different /who 's |
| 22:19.28 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, if you think of a useful API thing that you won't specifically use, don't be afraid to put it in |
| 22:19.36 | ckknight | like I triggered all the extra events |
| 22:19.38 | hyperChipmunk | lots =P |
| 22:19.40 | ckknight | cause they could be useful to someone |
| 22:19.59 | Neriak | dunno, maybe an API like Wholib:CountAllTrolls() or stuff ;) |
| 22:20.03 | hyperChipmunk | like 80% of BatFu is this crap |
| 22:20.08 | ckknight | right, hyperChipmunk |
| 22:20.16 | ckknight | BatFu will be quite small after this |
| 22:20.23 | ckknight | don't you love libraries? |
| 22:20.27 | hyperChipmunk | k, just so you realize |
| 22:20.34 | hyperChipmunk | I'm just wanting to be sure you know what's going on |
| 22:21.21 | hyperChipmunk | plus, I've got a little bit of "if it sounds too good to be true" goin on =) |
| 22:21.23 | hyperChipmunk | cuz it does |
| 22:21.38 | hyperChipmunk | i'm waiting for the other shoe to fall |
| 22:21.43 | ckknight | what shoe? |
| 22:22.00 | ckknight | you want BatFu to merely display information |
| 22:22.04 | ckknight | and that's it |
| 22:22.10 | ckknight | all it should be is a user interface |
| 22:22.40 | hyperChipmunk | the one that says, "that's too hack to put in a supported library", but it doesn't fit the "display" model to the point where it goes in the plug-in |
| 22:23.04 | ckknight | which part you talking about? |
| 22:23.41 | hyperChipmunk | the nonstandardized node status alerts, mostly |
| 22:23.50 | hyperChipmunk | how you gonna expect anyone to localize that |
| 22:24.17 | ckknight | magic! |
| 22:24.19 | hyperChipmunk | it's not translation; you have to actually go in and jot down everything they say and find a set of patterns to catch it all |
| 22:24.39 | hyperChipmunk | oh, well if there's magic involved, then I guess we don't have to worry.. |
| 22:24.47 | ckknight | I wish I had a deDE game |
| 22:25.40 | ckknight | and an frFR one |
| 22:25.43 | ckknight | that'd be handy |
| 22:25.46 | ckknight | like real handy |
| 22:26.02 | hyperChipmunk | possibly even handy-dandy? |
| 22:26.36 | ckknight | woah now, don't stretch yourself too far |
| 22:26.40 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 22:27.33 | Neriak | @all: Do I have a possiblity to check the difference if a player did a ReloadUI or just entered the game from login ? |
| 22:27.50 | ckknight | yes, hang on |
| 22:28.08 | ckknight | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process |
| 22:28.32 | ckknight | notice that SPELLS_CHANGED is called from log in, not from ReloadUI() |
| 22:29.37 | Neriak | yes, I've noticed this too ... that could be of great use |
| 22:30.41 | Neriak | I'll simply set a var to true when SPELLS_CHANGED did fire and check the vvar in my function .. cool |
| 22:30.52 | Neriak | Thank you Boss, I'll try this. |
| 22:33.39 | ckknight | :-) |
| 22:34.03 | ckknight | remember that globals are evil |
| 22:34.17 | ckknight | I try to have 1 global in each of my addons |
| 22:34.57 | ckknight | does anyone know the point to doing AddonName_FuncName() instead of AddonName:FuncName()? |
| 22:35.09 | Tem | what do you call it when people blame the wrong thing for a problem? |
| 22:35.22 | hyperChipmunk | a misconception? |
| 22:35.24 | Tem | Paranoia? |
| 22:35.40 | hyperChipmunk | that works |
| 22:35.45 | hyperChipmunk | sorta |
| 22:36.05 | ckknight | what problem? |
| 22:36.08 | hyperChipmunk | depends where on the scale of emphasis vs. accuracy you're looking at =) |
| 22:36.57 | Tem | blaming my addon for another breaking |
| 22:37.13 | Tem | when after I've looked at the code of the other, there is no possible way they are interacting at all |
| 22:37.42 | ckknight | which addon? |
| 22:38.09 | Tem | Someone is blaming Catalyst for breaking ICU |
| 22:38.15 | Tem | ICU doesn't even watch events |
| 22:38.28 | ckknight | what's ICU? |
| 22:38.31 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: what do we want as our argument to pass to the objective status functions? the node name (i.e. Lumber Mill), the poi (a number between 1 and the total number of mouseover-points on the map), or something else? |
| 22:38.35 | hyperChipmunk | tracker id |
| 22:38.46 | hyperChipmunk | you mouse over a blip in your tracking and it gives the target |
| 22:38.50 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, why not either? |
| 22:38.55 | hyperChipmunk | like, faction info or something |
| 22:39.17 | hyperChipmunk | faction, level, pvp status |
| 22:39.22 | hyperChipmunk | okay |
| 22:39.34 | ckknight | can't you have it take both the poi number and the name? |
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| 22:40.11 | hyperChipmunk | I could have it take a value and determine whether it's a valid poi, and if not, assume it's a string containing the name of a node |
| 22:40.23 | hyperChipmunk | I don't know of any battlefield objectives called '3' yet =P |
| 22:40.40 | hyperChipmunk | and I don't forsee that ever happening |
| 22:41.47 | Neriak | ckknight: Too bad, either SPELLS_CHANGED isn't firing anymore at login, or you simply can't catch it because of the addon's loading order :-/ |
| 22:43.09 | Neriak | hmm .. maybe it's Catalyst preventing it from firing ;) .. testing |
| 22:43.39 | hyperChipmunk | Tem: btw, iCU works without a hitch |
| 22:43.48 | ckknight | I doubt Catalyst is preventing it from working |
| 22:43.54 | hyperChipmunk | in case you had any doubt at all |
| 22:44.02 | Tem | ckknight: I KNOW Catalyst isn't causing any issue |
| 22:44.30 | hyperChipmunk | oh me, too, but it's good to have concrete data |
| 22:44.33 | hyperChipmunk | I use both |
| 22:44.41 | hyperChipmunk | and I definitely don't have a problem |
| 22:44.48 | Neriak | Tem: yup, you're right. It's not Catalyst :) |
| 22:44.53 | Tem | it can't be |
| 22:45.02 | Tem | I read ICU's code |
| 22:45.04 | Tem | it's pretty small |
| 22:45.08 | ckknight | you know, I think I'm gonna blame FuBar not working on Catalyst |
| 22:45.11 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:45.15 | hyperChipmunk | ooh good plan |
| 22:45.19 | Tem | and guess what I didn't find in ICU's code? |
| 22:45.19 | ckknight | that'll get people to stop blaming me |
| 22:45.24 | ckknight | OnEvent? |
| 22:45.28 | Tem | exactly |
| 22:45.29 | Neriak | hrhr |
| 22:46.16 | Tem | unless there is a line that says if(Catalyst) then self:Break() end, there is NO WAY Catalyst could be the problem |
| 22:47.09 | Neriak | Can I hook ReloadUI ? |
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| 22:53.18 | cknight | oh |
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| 22:58.27 | Neriak | ckknight:K it seems to work. I hook ReloadUI(), store a var in my SV then check for this one in Enable(). After I've used it I just nil it. Sweet |
| 22:58.27 | Neriak | wow ... netsplit ? |
| 22:58.27 | ckknight_ | must've been |
| 22:58.34 | ckknight_ | Neriak, don't wait for Enable |
| 22:58.34 | ckknight_ | do it at Initialize |
| 22:58.34 | Neriak | we missed our chance to take over the chan .. lol |
| 23:00.35 | ckknight_ | is it wrong to report someone for having an inappropriate name, but only doing it cause they're cutting in our your AH market? |
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| 23:01.46 | ckknight_ | wtf. |
| 23:02.06 | Tekkub | erf |
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| 23:03.29 | ckknight | lousy Dutch. |
| 23:03.29 | Tem___ | European hub? |
| 23:03.41 | Tem___ | I can't stan connected in the US |
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| 23:04.21 | Neriak | zOMG! |
| 23:04.21 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 23:04.21 | Tem | and everyone rejoins |
| 23:05.39 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 23:05.39 | ckknight | I want a Needy List that isn't a hog |
| 23:05.39 | hyperChipmunk | half of tem got split |
| 23:05.39 | Tem | clearly hyperChipmunk |
| 23:05.39 | Tem | net splits are fun |
| 23:06.38 | ckknight | what'd be a good name for a NeedyList AddOn? |
| 23:07.44 | hyperChipmunk | what's it do |
| 23:07.44 | ckknight | shows a list of like 10 people in your party/raid, sorted by urgency |
| 23:07.44 | ckknight | with needs next to them |
| 23:07.44 | ckknight | you click the needs, that need is fulfilled |
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| 23:10.59 | ckknight | any ideas? |
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| 23:13.28 | hyperChipmunk | PleasePlayMyGameForMe |
| 23:13.48 | ckknight | I'm calling it Needmaster |
| 23:13.48 | ckknight | lol, hyperChipmunk |
| 23:22.03 | Tekkub | bossamn, seriously, embed your libraries in your SVN commits damnit.... some of us just update off the SVN instead of WoWI when possible cause it's faster |
| 23:27.16 | ckknight | but it's a hindrance on me |
| 23:27.28 | ckknight | my recommendation: |
| 23:27.39 | ckknight | have a separate addon for each library |
| 23:27.48 | ckknight | then update that to the svn |
| 23:28.46 | hyperChipmunk | he has svns for the libs too |
| 23:29.02 | hyperChipmunk | instead of /FuBar, just get /BabbleLib |
| 23:29.52 | ckknight | and /TouristLib |
| 23:29.56 | ckknight | and soon to be /GloryLib |
| 23:30.55 | hyperChipmunk | or someone tell him how to symlink 'em |
| 23:31.52 | ckknight | how do I symlink with svn? |
| 23:33.28 | hyperChipmunk | duno, but I'm gonna look it up tonight |
| 23:38.13 | Tekkub | yea that would be a good idea :P |
| 23:38.21 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, jw, how old are you? |
| 23:39.02 | hyperChipmunk | 23? |
| 23:39.07 | hyperChipmunk | something like that |
| 23:39.10 | Tekkub | and I don't see how it's a hinderance honestly... you have to remember to copy your latest lib versions when you package for WoWI, so just copy them into the folder first then package the folder for WoWI and commit it up |
| 23:39.10 | hyperChipmunk | yea, 23 |
| 23:39.29 | Tekkub | I do that with PT and Compost |
| 23:39.59 | ckknight | okay |
| 23:40.23 | ckknight | Tekkub, I have a script automatically package |
| 23:40.24 | hyperChipmunk | there a problem with that? |
| 23:40.25 | Tekkub | actually... I think I'm gonna write up a quick batch file to update all my compost versions that are embedded |
| 23:40.57 | kergoth` | about the only thing you can do regarding a "link" in svn is to use svn:externals |
| 23:41.03 | ckknight | on post-commit, it makes a zip file that has the proper libraries in it |
| 23:41.26 | ckknight | svn:externals? |
| 23:42.06 | kergoth` | http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch07s04.html |
| 23:44.08 | kergoth` | you could use it to automatically have it check out the current versions of the embedded libs into subdirs in your addon's dir whenever you do a checkout |
| 23:44.37 | kergoth` | note, however, that 'svn up' does not cross external boundaries, so to update a nested tree like that, you need to cd into each extern'd dir and update it individually |
| 23:47.34 | kergoth` | naturally i have a shell script to traverse the tree seeking out svn:externals properties, then using that information to do the update |
| 23:47.34 | kergoth` | heh |
| 23:48.17 | kergoth` | honestly, svn:externals was a pretty half assed solution. definately not optimal. thankfully, the 'svk' project will be getting 'views', ala clearcase, which is a great deal more flexible |
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| 23:56.30 | Tekkub | *ponder* no real reason to include the compost lua in a fubar plugin is there... |
| 23:56.35 | Tekkub | *grin* |
