| 00:01.54 | hyperChipmunk | not in a plugin, no |
| 00:02.16 | hyperChipmunk | metrognome, babblelib, compost, touristlib, and glorylib are going to all be provided, I think |
| 00:13.33 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: you mussed up the plurals in IncreaseBattleground[s]Wins/Losses again =p |
| 00:13.44 | *** join/#wowace Devla (n=Devla@69.49.158.29) |
| 00:13.45 | ckknight | ? |
| 00:14.07 | hyperChipmunk | you called the functions IncreaseBattlegroundWins and IncreaseBattlegroundLosses |
| 00:14.14 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, TouristLib and GloryLib are not provided |
| 00:14.16 | Devla | hai! |
| 00:14.22 | hyperChipmunk | but when you call them, you call IncreaseBattlegroundsWins and IncreaseBattlegroundsLosses |
| 00:14.30 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:14.30 | hyperChipmunk | oh, right; they're included with starter pack plugins |
| 00:14.39 | ckknight | it should be the latter |
| 00:14.44 | hyperChipmunk | doh, =) |
| 00:14.49 | hyperChipmunk | I swapped it to the former; np |
| 00:15.13 | hyperChipmunk | taken care of |
| 00:15.19 | hyperChipmunk | take a look at this |
| 00:16.59 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastebin.com/658784 |
| 00:17.37 | hyperChipmunk | uh, ignore that string of like 13 a's |
| 00:17.43 | hyperChipmunk | I was trying to turn left =) |
| 00:18.07 | ckknight | seaaaaaalf |
| 00:18.20 | hyperChipmunk | =P |
| 00:18.27 | hyperChipmunk | little errant mousery |
| 00:19.07 | hyperChipmunk | that should pick up both cases, I think |
| 00:19.16 | hyperChipmunk | it can take a poi number or a node name |
| 00:20.04 | hyperChipmunk | er, obviously i have to put the description table in |
| 00:20.48 | hyperChipmunk | where do you want those? |
| 00:22.43 | hyperChipmunk | n/m i see |
| 00:35.36 | ckknight | ~ugt |
| 00:35.37 | purl | methinks ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. |
| 00:35.49 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 00:36.23 | hyperChipmunk | it is so much easier that way |
| 00:36.29 | hyperChipmunk | of course... |
| 00:36.36 | hyperChipmunk | 20:36 Irssi uptime: 8d 5h 24m 27s |
| 00:36.59 | hyperChipmunk | sun never sets for the chipmunk |
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| 00:41.55 | Tekkub | you know, I'm quite tempted to just abandon AIM/MSN/Yahoo completely for GTalk/Jabber |
| 00:42.06 | Tekkub | I never talk to anyone on IM but the hubby anyway |
| 00:56.19 | hyperChipmunk | 666 |
| 00:58.15 | hyperChipmunk | ro |
| 00:58.16 | hyperChipmunk | oops |
| 00:58.23 | hyperChipmunk | you're not arcane shot! |
| 01:00.49 | Tekkub | new bigswigs up with MC and BWL updates from Shyva |
| 01:11.41 | hyperChipmunk | big swigs? |
| 01:12.35 | Tekkub | quiet you |
| 01:13.07 | hyperChipmunk | the bossmod for water elemental bosses? |
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| 01:28.14 | Tekkub | and anothe BigWigs update... ZG this time :) |
| 01:28.43 | hyperChipmunk | know what would be cool? |
| 01:28.48 | hyperChipmunk | a warmup update |
| 01:28.51 | hyperChipmunk | man that would be sweet |
| 01:29.01 | Tekkub | :P whiner |
| 01:29.06 | hyperChipmunk | dude |
| 01:29.14 | hyperChipmunk | it's not just me anymore |
| 01:29.18 | Tekkub | I'll commit up what I got, it works for me... ne guarentees it'll work for you tho |
| 01:29.19 | hyperChipmunk | people been filing in all day long |
| 01:29.20 | cladhaire | Why is it a hindrance on you? |
| 01:29.23 | cladhaire | I don't understand =/ |
| 01:29.26 | cladhaire | Whoa. |
| 01:29.30 | cladhaire | I went back like 3 hour sin conversatino |
| 01:29.36 | Tekkub | GG claddo |
| 01:29.37 | hyperChipmunk | lol clad |
| 01:29.40 | cladhaire | what ever happened with Boss including the embeds on his svn? |
| 01:30.01 | Tekkub | I think he's gonna script a library update like I am, who knows |
| 01:30.03 | hyperChipmunk | I think the final judgement was 'do it yourself nub' |
| 01:30.14 | cladhaire | that makes no sense tho |
| 01:30.15 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 01:30.17 | cladhaire | whatevs |
| 01:30.20 | Tekkub | script == the eaziez |
| 01:30.57 | Tekkub | maybe it's just me, but the SVN shouldn't be any diff than an official packaged release :P |
| 01:31.08 | cladhaire | no shit. |
| 01:31.09 | cladhaire | hence tags |
| 01:31.10 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:31.13 | cladhaire | you zip the tag |
| 01:31.14 | cladhaire | fuckerhead. |
| 01:31.25 | Tekkub | just cause the dev's main copy of the embed is a standalne don't mean the users updating from the SVN are standalone too |
| 01:31.54 | cladhaire | code what you package.. package what you code |
| 01:32.00 | Tekkub | yarr! |
| 01:32.04 | Tekkub | speaking of... |
| 01:33.25 | hyperChipmunk | >8( |
| 01:40.36 | Tekkub | nah I like your nuts Claddy |
| 01:40.43 | Tekkub | batch file all writtened |
| 02:07.49 | hyperChipmunk | me |
| 02:19.11 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 02:22.39 | ckknight | didn't someone else talk about writing an Ace'd NeedyList? |
| 02:22.43 | ckknight | I think it was Wobin |
| 02:28.49 | Tekkub | someone, somewhere |
| 02:29.15 | Tekkub | I love NL's GUI all in all, but it needs three things.... |
| 02:29.21 | Tekkub | 1) optomized |
| 02:29.46 | Tekkub | 2) simple means to define needs, as modules like in BigWigs perhaps? |
| 02:30.07 | Tekkub | 3) a buffbot-esque "cure best need" one-button solution |
| 02:31.18 | Tekkub | okey... 4) don't EVER display needs you can't fulfill... I hate how it shows debuffs I can't yet cure at my current level |
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| 02:36.50 | hyperChipmunk | ug, Tek, problem with not having to include libraries with plugins |
| 02:37.06 | hyperChipmunk | oh n/m, that's cuz it was a lib from another plugin |
| 02:37.39 | hyperChipmunk | if it doesn't load the one with the lib before yours, it don't work, but it shouldn't be a problem for the libs included with fubar |
| 02:40.11 | Tekkub | what's the prob now chip? |
| 02:43.08 | hyperChipmunk | nono, my mistake |
| 02:43.21 | hyperChipmunk | I was relying on honorfu to provide GloryLib for BatFu |
| 02:43.32 | hyperChipmunk | but BatFu loads before HonorFu |
| 02:43.40 | hyperChipmunk | so I get an error when I try to use GloryLib |
| 02:47.37 | Tekkub | oh |
| 02:47.50 | Tekkub | yea I was talking about the Libs embedded in FuBar itsself |
| 02:49.24 | hyperChipmunk | I was thinking all of them, but that's cuz I'm stupid |
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| 03:14.11 | Ramble | clad, you around? get my email? |
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| 03:16.31 | Tem | anyone use Telo's Quick Loot? |
| 03:17.02 | *** join/#wowace Wobin_ (n=Wobin@221.221.26.226) |
| 03:18.23 | Ramble | Telos? I use the aced one |
| 03:19.53 | Tem | meh doesn't matter. I tested |
| 03:19.57 | Tem | Cairenn: you around? |
| 03:20.09 | Cairenn | yup |
| 03:20.16 | Tem | Cairenn: how mad at me would you be if I told some people they were retarded on WoWI? |
| 03:20.33 | Cairenn | fairly |
| 03:20.42 | Cairenn | if you used that exact phrasing |
| 03:20.43 | Tem | hmm |
| 03:20.45 | Cairenn | no flaming |
| 03:20.50 | Tem | what if I tell them they are crazy? |
| 03:20.52 | Cairenn | if there's a problem, tell the staff |
| 03:21.16 | Tem | I'm starting to get people blaming problems on Catalyst, and it's really annoying me |
| 03:21.32 | hyperChipmunk | how mad would you be if I told Tem he was retarded on #wowace? |
| 03:21.38 | Cairenn | so prove them incorrect |
| 03:21.52 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: I don't have anything to do with the ace channel or forums |
| 03:21.57 | hyperChipmunk | excellent =) |
| 03:21.59 | Tem | I know cair. it just gets old |
| 03:22.00 | Cairenn | (moderating them) |
| 03:22.04 | Cairenn | Tem: I know |
| 03:22.09 | hyperChipmunk | Tem, you're retarded |
| 03:22.19 | Tem | mode +b hyperChipmunk |
| 03:22.21 | Tem | damnit! |
| 03:22.23 | hyperChipmunk | ! |
| 03:22.32 | hyperChipmunk | and the @ next to your name sez otherwise, Cai |
| 03:22.43 | Cairenn | you can tell them they are retarded or crazy or stupid, if you do it in such a manner that you aren't flaming them |
| 03:22.50 | Cairenn | Tem: be creative ;) |
| 03:22.53 | Tem | hmm.. |
| 03:23.09 | Tem | "1.0.4 interferes with Telo's QuickLoot mod so that the loot window will no longer appear anywhere." |
| 03:23.21 | Tem | Me: "No it doesn't. You're dreaming." |
| 03:24.43 | Tem | or should I elaborate more? |
| 03:24.47 | Wobin_ | heh blame it on the other quickmods |
| 03:24.49 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 03:29.10 | Codayus | Hmm, I had some problem with Telo's QuickLoot a few weeks ago. I switched to AceLoot. |
| 03:29.43 | Ramble | heh. seems like that'd be an easy enough solution... if they're using ace already |
| 03:29.47 | Codayus | And AceLoot and Catalyst I know work fine. (I'd be really really impressed to know how you could make Catalyst break Telos' QuickLoot though...) |
| 03:30.30 | Codayus | Well, doesn't Catalyst require Ace? And they must have Catalyst installed (I hope) if they're complaining that it breaks QuickLoot. |
| 03:30.57 | Codayus | I wish I could recall what the problem I had with QuickLoot was...could be the same problem. (And since I had it before Catalyst was written...) |
| 03:31.41 | ckknight | how do I tell if a unit is in range of a spell? I have a hardware event |
| 03:32.45 | Tem | isn't there an IsActionInRange? |
| 03:32.47 | Codayus | ckknight: Hmm, you can't do it for a *spell* afaik. |
| 03:32.52 | Codayus | But you can for an action. |
| 03:32.52 | hyperChipmunk | somethingInRange |
| 03:33.00 | Codayus | Yep, IsActionInRange() |
| 03:33.53 | Codayus | Mods that check whether a spell is in range usually require that *some* spell with the same range is in SOME actionSlot. They'll scan the bars looking for one, cache that, then test if its in range. |
| 03:34.27 | Tem | well |
| 03:34.45 | Tem | if it's a benficial spell, you can "start" the cast with a hostile or no target |
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| 03:34.52 | Tem | and use SpellCanTargetUnit |
| 03:35.24 | Tem | but that's unreliable because of self action addons |
| 03:44.34 | Tekkub | uhm, BossMan... question regarding BabbleLib.... |
| 03:45.05 | Tekkub | why does it pull 1080KiB on loadup? :) |
| 03:45.28 | Tekkub | I mean, it shouldn't be defining the locale tables until they're asked for, right? |
| 03:45.39 | hyperChipmunk | you might have suddenly moved to china |
| 03:45.54 | Tekkub | not that it matters, it takes a whole 26ms to load, just curious |
| 03:46.06 | hyperChipmunk | O_o warmup is working? |
| 03:46.21 | Tekkub | my warmup never stopped working chiphead |
| 03:52.15 | ckknight | Tekkub, weird, it shouldn't be that big |
| 03:52.28 | ckknight | especially cause it loads tables in a lazy fashion |
| 03:53.52 | Tekkub | *shrug* who knows... it appears to only be memory size, not generating tables... creating big table structures during loadup seems to take a lot of time |
| 03:57.09 | Tekkub | Chip, committed up the new "old style" config-less warmup |
| 03:57.41 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 04:00.22 | Tem | oh |
| 04:00.24 | Tem | em |
| 04:00.24 | Tem | gee |
| 04:00.37 | Tem | this fucking retard was running both Catalyst and ntmysFixLoadingTimes |
| 04:00.44 | Tem | and wondering why nothing woked |
| 04:00.50 | hyperChipmunk | durt durt durt |
| 04:00.55 | hyperChipmunk | it's Catalyst's fault |
| 04:01.00 | Tem | naturally |
| 04:01.07 | Tem | I hate users |
| 04:01.29 | hyperChipmunk | users are losers |
| 04:01.32 | Tem | this really kinda pisses me off |
| 04:01.36 | hyperChipmunk | I learned that in like 4th grade |
| 04:01.42 | Tekkub | but if one fixes times then both must fix em better! |
| 04:01.42 | Tem | I spent 10 minutes on Catalyst |
| 04:01.50 | Tem | 10 fucking minutes |
| 04:01.59 | Tem | I've spent HOURS and DAYS on my other addons |
| 04:02.05 | Tekkub | you lasted a whole 10 minutes? wow! |
| 04:02.23 | Tekkub | scary that it's such a simple fix eh? |
| 04:02.24 | Tem | but in 24 hours Catalyst has gotten more downloads than everything else I've ever written |
| 04:02.38 | Codayus | What's the lesson here? |
| 04:02.45 | Codayus | Less testing! More releasing! |
| 04:02.57 | Tem | people don't appreciate the sheer awesomeness of my addons |
| 04:02.58 | Codayus | Hey, it works for <large hated software company of choice>! |
| 04:02.59 | Tekkub | that's cause it's repairing something blizzy should have fixed back in November at least, if not earlier |
| 04:03.10 | Codayus | Tekkub: Indeed. |
| 04:03.33 | Tekkub | but I guess noone believed that code executing during zone was a problem when _I_ said it |
| 04:03.42 | Tem | heh |
| 04:03.46 | Tekkub | noone outside of Ace at least |
| 04:03.56 | Tem | I fixed ItemCompare less than a week after you said that |
| 04:04.07 | Tem | and that's my only addon that watches those events |
| 04:04.17 | Tekkub | I know, a lot of shit got fixed when that got pointed out :) |
| 04:04.45 | Tekkub | I still hope slou adds a slot arg to the BAG_UPDATE event |
| 04:05.00 | Tem | I took particular joy the other night in pointing out to that Miravlix pric that we knew about the zoning issue LONG ago |
| 04:05.12 | Tekkub | meh, fuck cosmos |
| 04:05.17 | Tem | nah |
| 04:05.19 | Tem | just fuck him |
| 04:05.26 | Tekkub | cosmos is bloated and intrusive |
| 04:05.40 | Tekkub | that whole nopatch shit |
| 04:05.44 | Tekkub | *blarf* |
| 04:05.48 | Tem | I'm pretty sure that's gone |
| 04:06.07 | Tekkub | it is, but it should have never been there in the first place |
| 04:06.14 | Tem | heh |
| 04:06.25 | Codayus | Wouldn't surprise me. But I dropped cosmos back when they had it, and I just can't see a reason to return... |
| 04:06.31 | Tekkub | they got a "we're the only mod you need to run" complex tho.... like AOL! *grin* |
| 04:06.40 | Codayus | And it's kind of symptomatic of a lot of their problems. |
| 04:07.18 | Tekkub | they never learned to play well with others is all |
| 04:07.34 | Codayus | As selling points go, "Try us! We're only 80% as annoying as the last time!" just doesn't cut it for me. :-) |
| 04:08.00 | Tem | I can't stand to use anything from Cosmos anymore because their coding styles makes me want to puke |
| 04:08.16 | Tem | annoys the shit out of me |
| 04:08.23 | Tekkub | :) |
| 04:09.10 | Tem | vulgore* |
| 04:09.30 | Tem | holy hell |
| 04:09.49 | Tem | if Catalyst gets many more "favoites, it will be in the "Most favorites" section of wowi |
| 04:09.51 | Cairenn | vulgar perhaps? |
| 04:09.59 | Tem | yes, thanks Cair |
| 04:10.02 | Tem | I can't fucking spell |
| 04:10.10 | Cairenn | but can you spell fucking? |
| 04:10.15 | Tem | lol |
| 04:10.28 | Tem | It's the one thing I miss from when I used Gaim |
| 04:10.36 | Tem | it told me when I spelled stuff wrong |
| 04:15.29 | hyperChipmunk | warmup still sux =\ |
| 04:15.48 | Tekkub | what the hell is your issue now? |
| 04:15.56 | hyperChipmunk | same thing |
| 04:16.05 | hyperChipmunk | wonder if it's choking on some addon |
| 04:16.13 | Tekkub | what's the error? |
| 04:16.29 | hyperChipmunk | line 52: attempt to index field `myframe' (a nil value) |
| 04:18.05 | Tekkub | you wouldn't happen to be missing the XML file would you? |
| 04:19.41 | hyperChipmunk | if it was in the tarball, I have it |
| 04:19.47 | hyperChipmunk | Warmup.xml |
| 04:20.06 | Tekkub | or have changed the folder/TOC names to something besides "!!Warmup" |
| 04:20.25 | hyperChipmunk | newp |
| 04:20.55 | Tekkub | okey changing something... lesse if this works |
| 04:21.21 | hyperChipmunk | sorry man =\ |
| 04:21.33 | hyperChipmunk | I'm seeing if I can get some better info for ya |
| 04:21.46 | Tekkub | comitted |
| 04:24.18 | Tekkub | oh and chipper, use the damn comments when you commit crap, they're handy for bothe you and the people using your SVN |
| 04:24.19 | hyperChipmunk | ! |
| 04:24.21 | hyperChipmunk | no error |
| 04:24.29 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I usually do |
| 04:24.35 | hyperChipmunk | that last one I didn't |
| 04:24.45 | hyperChipmunk | and that's when they started showing up on the front page =P |
| 04:24.53 | hyperChipmunk | IT WORKS =D |
| 04:24.58 | hyperChipmunk | <3333333 |
| 04:25.14 | hyperChipmunk | yay |
| 04:25.24 | Tekkub | :P for some reason I think ADDON_LOADED was firing for some other addon while WarmUp was trying to load for you |
| 04:25.34 | Tekkub | I have no fucking clue why tho |
| 04:25.37 | hyperChipmunk | well tell it to stop that |
| 04:25.39 | Wobble | Tem: Re: the moron See?! I told you. Blame the other addons |
| 04:25.44 | Tekkub | but meh, that fix compensaties for it |
| 04:25.58 | hyperChipmunk | sorry for the hassle; thanks for the help |
| 04:26.07 | Tem | Wobble: that's the only thing I can figure out |
| 04:27.01 | hyperChipmunk | geez, OneBag is huge too |
| 04:27.04 | hyperChipmunk | bigger than EngInv |
| 04:27.11 | hyperChipmunk | how is that possible |
| 04:27.27 | Wobble | I've compared the difference between using the other addons and Catalyst as Catalyst is like being put through the metal detector at the airport. The other is like being shot on sight in case you're carrying a weapon =P |
| 04:27.59 | Wobble | And some users think running all three at once will make everything faster |
| 04:28.13 | hyperChipmunk | dude, I need to make one |
| 04:28.25 | hyperChipmunk | that resets things back to normal between each one |
| 04:28.36 | Wobin_ | You could call it HyperZone |
| 04:28.36 | Tem | rofl hyperChipmunk |
| 04:28.42 | hyperChipmunk | yes! |
| 04:28.58 | Wobin_ | And people would download it cause it has hyper in the title cause that meanz FAST |
| 04:29.05 | hyperChipmunk | exactly! |
| 04:29.11 | hyperChipmunk | Tem, you're going down |
| 04:29.28 | hyperChipmunk | and you're gonna get comments complaining that you make mine go slower |
| 04:30.45 | Wobin_ | Tekkub, you about? |
| 04:31.09 | Wobin_ | You're missing the largest enchanting bag in PT |
| 04:31.13 | hyperChipmunk | awesome... |
| 04:31.36 | hyperChipmunk | OneBag 3500KiB...EngInventory 2640KiB...Mynventory 11 KiB |
| 04:31.56 | Wobin_ | Is this from Warmup? |
| 04:32.01 | hyperChipmunk | now I just need to put some code into it |
| 04:32.20 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 04:33.52 | Tem | oh cladhaire |
| 04:33.54 | Tem | you here? |
| 04:35.37 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: Interface\AddOns\FuBar_BagglegroundFu\GloryLib.lua:199:attempt to index local `self' (a string value) in wsg |
| 04:35.53 | ckknight | s |
| 04:35.57 | hyperChipmunk | I don't think I have touched anything before that in the file |
| 04:36.09 | hyperChipmunk | I'll take a look if you think it's me, after the battle |
| 04:36.09 | ckknight | Baggleground? |
| 04:36.19 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 04:36.22 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 04:36.25 | hyperChipmunk | dude, I'm typing here and watching there |
| 04:45.06 | ckknight | is there an easier way to check if your target is a party member than doing a lot of UnitIsUnit()'s? |
| 04:46.09 | Wobin_ | Isn't there a specific unit function for part? |
| 04:46.09 | Codayus | UnitInParty("unit")? |
| 04:46.11 | Wobin_ | y? |
| 04:46.48 | Wobin_ | yeah that |
| 04:46.48 | Wobin_ | UnitInParty("target") |
| 04:46.48 | Codayus | WoWWiki claims that returns 1 if the unit is in YOUR party. (The name is ambiguous.) |
| 04:47.14 | ckknight | I mean, I want to figure out which party member |
| 04:47.18 | ckknight | party1, party2 |
| 04:47.19 | ckknight | whatnot |
| 04:47.37 | Wobin_ | oh |
| 04:48.08 | Codayus | Oh, you're trying to find out WHICH party member...oh...hmm. |
| 04:48.09 | Wobin_ | There's a getId one I'm sure |
| 04:48.29 | Wobin_ | but that'd probably return 'target' |
| 04:49.53 | Codayus | There's the function GetPartyMember(), but I don't think that does what you want. |
| 04:50.02 | Codayus | I only mention it because I don't understand what it DOES do. |
| 04:50.04 | Codayus | :-) |
| 04:50.18 | Wobin_ | Returns the index of the party member at the given index if that party slot is filled, otherwise nil. |
| 04:50.36 | Wobin_ | You can iterate through with an index to see the size of your part |
| 04:50.37 | Wobin_ | y |
| 04:50.40 | Codayus | I totally don't understand the return value. |
| 04:50.41 | Wobin_ | ... |
| 04:50.50 | Wobin_ | party[x] |
| 04:51.25 | Wobin_ | I suspect you'll have to do a UnitIsUnit |
| 04:52.29 | Wobin_ | You'd only have to do four per target...? |
| 05:03.09 | ckknight | or 40 in a raid |
| 05:03.28 | hyperChipmunk | d |
| 05:06.02 | Wobin_ | Are you checking if a person is in your party? |
| 05:06.53 | Wobin_ | Why not go by names then? Store who's in your party as keys for a table, then check if MyParty[someoneelsesname] exists or not |
| 05:07.29 | Wobin_ | You could have party1,2,3,4 as the value too to return the id if they are |
| 05:07.42 | ckknight | hrm, unlike Ralak's Needy List, which takes up 3.5 MiB and loads in 1.078 s, my NeedMaster takes up 238 KiB and loads in 0.018 s |
| 05:07.49 | ckknight | a slight improvement |
| 05:08.07 | hyperChipmunk | major improvement if you use my suggested name |
| 05:08.20 | ckknight | PleasePlayMyGameForMe? |
| 05:10.10 | Wobin_ | Meh |
| 05:10.21 | Wobin_ | I guess I can stop work on MASH now? =P |
| 05:10.22 | ckknight | Wobin_, weren't you going to do a needy list thing? |
| 05:10.38 | ckknight | is that MASH? |
| 05:10.43 | ckknight | and how far into it are you |
| 05:10.43 | ckknight | ? |
| 05:10.50 | Wobin_ | Well... the framework is there... |
| 05:10.59 | Wobin_ | I've run into the GUI brickwall again |
| 05:11.03 | ckknight | really? |
| 05:11.07 | ckknight | my gui stuff was easy |
| 05:11.12 | ckknight | all CreateFrames |
| 05:11.22 | Wobin_ | I've never sucessfully sat down and got all that working =) |
| 05:11.25 | Wobin_ | So I put it off =P |
| 05:11.26 | ckknight | where did you stumble? |
| 05:11.34 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:11.35 | Wobin_ | Just in general understanding of the works |
| 05:11.39 | ckknight | ah |
| 05:12.00 | ckknight | well, it was really handy to do mine with babbleLib, cause it already has the icons and localized spell names |
| 05:12.11 | Wobin_ | hm, I'll look into that =) |
| 05:13.47 | Wobin_ | I should dump it on the SVN what's currently done |
| 05:14.07 | ckknight | NeedMaster isn't near complete |
| 05:14.18 | ckknight | I just have priest stuff put in, but the other spells are super easy to put in as well |
| 05:14.26 | Wobin_ | Nor is MASH, but I feel it will motivate me better if it's there =) |
| 05:14.27 | ckknight | also, there is no configuration |
| 05:15.00 | Wobin_ | What I liked about NL was the configuration... when it worked |
| 05:16.12 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: that error happens every time I die |
| 05:16.15 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.37 | ckknight | I see |
| 05:20.41 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, line 199 doesn't exist for me |
| 05:22.08 | hyperChipmunk | if self.registry[event] then |
| 05:22.15 | hyperChipmunk | in local function Trigger(self, event, a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6, a7, a8) |
| 05:22.54 | hyperChipmunk | ah, I've got 15 loc lines in there |
| 05:22.58 | hyperChipmunk | so like line 174 |
| 05:23.09 | hyperChipmunk | or wait |
| 05:23.17 | hyperChipmunk | like line 190 |
| 05:23.47 | ckknight | that's where it is? |
| 05:24.20 | ckknight | line 266, change Trigger("DEATH") to Trigger(self, "DEATH") |
| 05:24.38 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 05:27.24 | Wobin_ | http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/schrimshank/20060411.jpg |
| 06:37.35 | Cairenn | I thought my answer on the event was pretty smart :p |
| 06:37.54 | Cairenn | and technically accurate, even! |
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| 07:40.03 | id` | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1327.0.html |
| 07:40.13 | id` | stupid users :P |
| 07:56.17 | ckknight | you should be less mean |
| 07:56.59 | id` | well its true |
| 07:57.12 | id` | 'oh its ace so its good' |
| 07:57.16 | id` | generally thats ok |
| 07:57.18 | id` | but.. |
| 07:57.24 | id` | I should make a really crappy ace mod |
| 07:57.36 | id` | that uses 6 onupdates per frame |
| 07:57.38 | id` | etc |
| 07:57.49 | oxman | 9i've a very very strange problem :p |
| 07:58.06 | oxman | in x i've an array, the first time i load the addon, i dump the content of the array |
| 07:58.22 | oxman | and i do table.getn(x), it's return 0 (but i have one element in array) |
| 07:58.41 | oxman | then i reload my ui, dump the content of the array (is exactly the same before), i do table.getn(x), and it's return 1 :[ |
| 07:58.49 | oxman | why the first time it's bug ? |
| 07:59.54 | id` | there, edited |
| 08:00.56 | id` | oxman: well what exactly is in it then |
| 08:00.57 | oxman | anyone have an idea for my problem ? |
| 08:01.14 | id` | ckknight: edited |
| 08:01.28 | oxman | hum wait |
| 08:02.38 | oxman | (i upload the dump of the array (screenshot)) |
| 08:03.13 | oxman | http://tinyurl.com/ojulu |
| 08:03.31 | oxman | the first time, and the second time (after logout/login or reload ui) i've the same dump |
| 08:03.49 | oxman | but the first time table.getn(EP_StatsHeal.data) == 0, the second == 1 |
| 08:06.12 | oxman | the first time, EP_StatsHeal.data is nil (it's registerforsave variable), i'm set it with some spells |
| 08:06.29 | oxman | the second time, EP_StatsHeal.data is not nil at the beginning |
| 08:06.46 | oxman | but in two case, when i do my dump, EP_StatsHeal.data is fill |
| 08:07.46 | Tekkub | ox, getn is very easy to break and only applicable in certain cases... |
| 08:07.56 | Tekkub | what does the array look like? |
| 08:08.28 | oxman | it's store each row for a player, and in each row one row by spells |
| 08:08.45 | Tekkub | trype out an example for me... |
| 08:08.53 | Tekkub | is it like {1,2,3,4} |
| 08:09.11 | oxman | it's like : |
| 08:09.15 | Tekkub | or {text = "something", price = 1, stack = 12} |
| 08:09.16 | oxman | data[1] = player |
| 08:09.20 | oxman | data[2] = player2 |
| 08:09.21 | oxman | where : |
| 08:09.29 | oxman | player = { |
| 08:09.33 | oxman | overheal = value, |
| 08:09.36 | oxman | spells = SPELLS |
| 08:09.38 | oxman | } |
| 08:09.39 | oxman | where : |
| 08:09.45 | oxman | SPELLS = { |
| 08:09.51 | oxman | spellname = "name" |
| 08:09.52 | oxman | } |
| 08:09.55 | id` | pastebin? |
| 08:09.55 | oxman | to sum up ;) |
| 08:10.06 | oxman | look my tinyurl is clear :D |
| 08:10.28 | Tekkub | { {overheal = 1, spells = {spellname = "spell"}} , {...} } |
| 08:10.30 | Tekkub | :P |
| 08:11.19 | oxman | yep :p |
| 08:11.31 | Tekkub | anywho, do you need getn for something specific or are you just trying to loop over everything? |
| 08:11.44 | oxman | i need getn to fill an header |
| 08:11.48 | oxman | "n Healers" |
| 08:11.48 | oxman | :D |
| 08:11.58 | oxman | a header |
| 08:12.29 | Tekkub | okey, how are you adding element to the base table... table.insert(...) or t[i] = value ? |
| 08:12.32 | oxman | and i other case, to set the width of my dialog (when i've a scrollbar) |
| 08:12.38 | oxman | t[i] |
| 08:13.01 | Tekkub | t[i] doesn't effect getn consistantly |
| 08:13.18 | Tekkub | use table.insert if you want getn to get updated |
| 08:13.35 | oxman | in my previous version is work perfectly :p |
| 08:13.54 | Tekkub | getn is all fucked up in the version of lua that WoW uses |
| 08:14.16 | Tekkub | if you use table.insert/delete it'll update properly |
| 08:14.32 | Tekkub | if you use t[i] = value it might work it might not |
| 08:14.48 | oxman | i prefer do my count function |
| 08:15.03 | oxman | table.insert isn't very design for my usage |
| 08:15.03 | Tekkub | yea, that's probably best |
| 08:15.12 | oxman | thanks |
| 08:19.09 | id` | Tekkub: can ye help me for a bit? |
| 08:19.14 | Tekkub | nope |
| 08:19.24 | id` | i didnt hear that |
| 08:19.26 | id` | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3695 |
| 08:19.29 | id` | last post |
| 08:19.38 | id` | i dont wanna turn down this user just because i quit wow |
| 08:19.53 | id` | but wtf is the GameTimeFrame again :| |
| 08:20.16 | Tekkub | the sun/moon thing |
| 08:20.24 | id` | ah |
| 08:20.28 | id` | i can add that then |
| 08:20.30 | id` | ;) |
| 08:20.30 | Tekkub | top right corner usually I think |
| 08:20.35 | id` | thanks |
| 08:20.41 | oxman | what idminimap ? |
| 08:20.46 | Tekkub | *shurg* I hid mine a year ago |
| 08:21.32 | Tekkub | BTW indie |
| 08:21.33 | Tekkub | http://svn.wowace.com/dl.php?repname=Tekkub&path=%2Ftrunk%2FSqueenix%2F&rev=0&isdir=1 |
| 08:21.37 | Tekkub | *grin* |
| 08:22.05 | id` | oxman: an addon i made |
| 08:22.46 | id` | you made a square one? :o |
| 08:22.57 | id` | Tekkub: mergy idMinimap into it and you are my hero |
| 08:23.01 | id` | merge* |
| 08:23.33 | Tekkub | *shrug* I took SquareMinimap and Ace'd it and cleaned it up a tad when the servers were down for 1.10 install |
| 08:23.49 | Tekkub | it does scrollywheel zoom too |
| 08:25.42 | [Ammo] | it does exactly what it has to :) |
| 08:25.47 | oxman | incredible... i will be crazy |
| 08:25.49 | [Ammo] | doesn't really neeed more does it? |
| 08:26.07 | oxman | in my lua i do message(string(EP_StatsHeal.data)) |
| 08:26.09 | oxman | i show "nil" |
| 08:26.20 | oxman | in console i do /dump EP_StatsHeal.data |
| 08:26.22 | oxman | i see my aray |
| 08:26.23 | oxman | :[ |
| 08:27.51 | id` | :( |
| 08:28.31 | oxman | ace sux, i have this problem since i use ace ;p |
| 08:30.50 | oxman | i seem bad in oo programmation |
| 08:30.56 | oxman | if i do |
| 08:31.06 | oxman | Function EP_StatsHeal:blabla() |
| 08:31.11 | oxman | self.data = blabla; |
| 08:31.13 | oxman | end |
| 08:31.23 | oxman | self.data == EP_StatsHeal.data ? |
| 08:32.26 | Tekkub | depends on the context of the second self :) |
| 08:32.42 | Tekkub | look at it this way |
| 08:33.24 | Tekkub | if you call ModName:Method(a1, a2) it's the same as calling ModName.Method(ModName, a1, a2) |
| 08:33.31 | Tekkub | . vs : |
| 08:33.51 | Tekkub | : passes a value for "self" |
| 08:34.52 | oxman | i use self.data only in function name like : Ep_StatsHeal:something |
| 08:35.10 | oxman | EP not Ep |
| 08:35.37 | Tekkub | oh god... galka in the pirate (or whatever they named the class) armor (AF set I assume) is fugly as shit |
| 08:35.59 | Tekkub | Ep_StatsHeal is a table... |
| 08:36.14 | Tekkub | when you call with a : that table is passed to the local "self" |
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| 08:36.52 | Tekkub | se essentially, if called correctly, Ep_StatssHeal.something == self.something |
| 08:37.00 | oxman | so i've a problem ! |
| 08:37.04 | oxman | because it's not the same :D |
| 08:37.13 | Shyva | Tekkub, remove my MC bosses from the SVN please, they are bad, really bad |
| 08:37.23 | Tekkub | how bad are they? |
| 08:37.28 | oxman | wait a minute i use pastebin |
| 08:37.35 | Shyva | |-----------------| this bad I think |
| 08:37.36 | Tekkub | pastebin help, yes |
| 08:37.39 | id` | oxman: ;) |
| 08:37.42 | id` | Shyva: haha |
| 08:38.00 | Wobin_ | snurre's icon is just... scary |
| 08:38.07 | oxman | http://pastebin.com/659161 |
| 08:38.20 | Shyva | they spam like mad, forgot some really stupid things tekk... will fix it asap |
| 08:38.29 | Tekkub | http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/ahturhgan/equipment/yigit.html |
| 08:38.34 | Tekkub | *drool* |
| 08:38.39 | Tekkub | I miss my galka's ass |
| 08:38.44 | Wobin_ | Two japanese men wearing what appears to be Vader shaped helmets, gloves... and posing straps |
| 08:40.07 | Tekkub | ox, show me how you're calling that function |
| 08:40.31 | oxman | self.GetN(self.data) |
| 08:40.36 | Tekkub | and ugh I hate table.foreach... |
| 08:40.40 | oxman | in a EP_StatsHeal:namedfunction( |
| 08:40.53 | Tekkub | okey first you need to call it like this: |
| 08:40.59 | oxman | how i can count without that ? a while and test if data[i] is not nil ? |
| 08:41.04 | Tekkub | self:GetN(self.data) |
| 08:41.14 | oxman | up it's true, it's a function :( |
| 08:41.35 | [Ammo] | Shyva: my lucifron one shouldn't be that bad :p |
| 08:41.42 | oxman | it's ok now Tekkub |
| 08:42.07 | Tekkub | getn = function(t) local n = 0; for i in pairs(t) do n = n + i end return n end |
| 08:42.27 | oxman | for the table.foreach to replace the getn, in this case i think it's proper |
| 08:42.30 | Tekkub | simplest one, will count everything, not just numeric indexes |
| 08:42.43 | oxman | i don't want count anything ;p |
| 08:42.48 | oxman | i only want count numeric index :D |
| 08:42.57 | Tekkub | getn = function(t) local n = 0; for i in ipairs(t) do n = n + i end return n end |
| 08:43.04 | Tekkub | that'll only do numics |
| 08:43.04 | Wobin_ | by the way oxman, if you want debug messages you can use self:debug() and acedebug to view them |
| 08:43.10 | Tekkub | *numerics |
| 08:43.17 | oxman | but ipairs isn't buggy like getn ? |
| 08:43.31 | Wobin_ | ipairs doesn't depend on n |
| 08:43.34 | oxman | Wobin_ ok thanks, i use always devtools with /dump :D |
| 08:43.44 | Tekkub | oh and ox... |
| 08:43.50 | oxman | ok thanks Wobin_ |
| 08:43.55 | Wobin_ | which is good for dumps, but not for runtime =) |
| 08:44.05 | Tekkub | ou can replace DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(tostring(v)) with print(v) |
| 08:44.08 | Tekkub | it's less typing |
| 08:44.10 | oxman | it's true Wobin_ ;) |
| 08:44.14 | Tekkub | same result |
| 08:44.30 | oxman | yep i know, but i don't remember :D |
| 08:44.40 | oxman | like the debug function of Ace lol |
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| 08:46.05 | Wobin_ | What -is- a galka supposed to be based from? |
| 08:46.22 | Tekkub | based? |
| 08:46.27 | Tekkub | they're galka! |
| 08:46.36 | Tekkub | they're big sexy gay beasts |
| 08:46.48 | Mikma | mmkay |
| 08:46.48 | Tekkub | and they love gaskan sausage |
| 08:46.54 | Tekkub | *galkan |
| 08:47.14 | Wobin_ | I would say cannibal, but I know what you're implying =P |
| 08:47.22 | Tekkub | and they got a hypnotic tail bounce when they run |
| 08:47.43 | Wobin_ | much like the antigrav breasts in games such as DoA? |
| 08:48.04 | Tekkub | ain't implying nothin, there's a lvl 10ish quest is Bastok where you go get some galkan sausage for a cute galka in the metalworks |
| 08:48.39 | Tekkub | never played DoA |
| 08:49.11 | Tekkub | *whine* I miss my galka... why can't tauren be more secksy |
| 08:49.13 | Wobin_ | Dead or Alive, fighting |
| 08:49.14 | Wobin_ | game |
| 08:49.28 | Wobin_ | Cause they're meant to be cartoony |
| 08:49.44 | Tekkub | nah I like tauren... just not the tail... |
| 08:49.54 | Wobin_ | not taily enough? |
| 08:49.55 | Tekkub | galka tail is big and thick, I like thick |
| 08:50.54 | Tekkub | http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/ahturhgan/index.html <---- galka ass |
| 08:51.53 | Tekkub | hrm that link messed up |
| 08:52.12 | Tekkub | bah |
| 08:52.35 | Tekkub | stupid fucking flash pages |
| 08:53.05 | Wobin_ | 27%loaded |
| 08:59.07 | Tekkub | hrm... time to maybe steal KCI's GUI frame |
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| 09:08.55 | oxman | you know a very good addon to centralize gui but very light ? |
| 09:08.55 | oxman | :D |
| 09:09.46 | Tekkub | you mean like some sort of control panel GUI? no |
| 09:11.09 | oxman | ok |
| 09:11.15 | oxman | Tekkub , i have a very good idea for you... |
| 09:11.19 | oxman | you know what ? ;D |
| 09:11.26 | Tekkub | oro? |
| 09:12.25 | oxman | make a control panel gui very light |
| 09:12.26 | oxman | ='p |
| 09:12.28 | oxman | the new reference ;p |
| 09:12.31 | Tekkub | hells no! |
| 09:12.35 | id` | no wai |
| 09:12.42 | Tekkub | I am gonna make a menu registry tho |
| 09:12.47 | Tekkub | :) |
| 09:13.44 | oxman | i hate do gui :( |
| 09:13.51 | oxman | so i need a very cool and light control panel |
| 09:13.51 | oxman | ;D |
| 09:13.53 | id` | the dont do it |
| 09:14.14 | Tekkub | we all hate making GUIs I think |
| 09:16.24 | oxman | author of discordmods seems like them |
| 09:16.25 | oxman | :D |
| 09:16.41 | Tekkub | no comment |
| 09:17.09 | oxman | lol why ? |
| 09:17.44 | id` | just.... shh..... |
| 09:55.51 | Tekkub | uch |
| 09:56.10 | Tekkub | I want to rip off KCI's GUI for PT, but... lazy... |
| 10:01.56 | Mikma | ain't there those lame gui-makers |
| 10:04.33 | Tekkub | eh? |
| 10:12.53 | Wobin_ | I've kinda seen them |
| 10:12.58 | Wobin_ | I'd like to find one |
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| 10:30.59 | Wobin_ | PS Tekk: Could you name your versions/etc a bit more predictably with your embedded libraries? |
| 10:31.17 | oxman | i still wait for a control panel gui |
| 10:31.18 | oxman | ;p |
| 10:31.21 | Wobin_ | eg either "1" or "compost-1" |
| 10:31.28 | Wobin_ | oxman: write it yourself =P |
| 10:31.37 | oxman | no |
| 10:31.38 | oxman | ;D |
| 10:31.44 | Wobin_ | Keep waiting then =P |
| 10:31.49 | oxman | nia nia :p |
| 10:32.01 | Neronix | So I'm not the only one who's awake \o/ |
| 10:32.14 | Wobin_ | oh, it's about 6:30pm here =P |
| 10:32.27 | oxman | 12:30am here |
| 10:32.29 | Neronix | 11:30 am here |
| 10:32.34 | Tekkub | compost-1 was my first, they'll all be just "#" from now on |
| 10:32.40 | Wobin_ | cool |
| 10:32.51 | Wobin_ | And calling them <name>Lib too? |
| 10:33.00 | Wobin_ | (foldernamewise I guess) |
| 10:33.07 | Tekkub | I followed iriel's design there, and I didn't like it, but it was already being used so too late |
| 10:33.36 | Tekkub | folder name is meaningless, noone should need to run standalone :P |
| 10:33.56 | Wobin_ | Well, it's more when I'm downloading blind from the SVN and guessing at location names =) |
| 10:34.09 | Tekkub | blind? huh? |
| 10:34.21 | Tekkub | if it's posted to the SVN, that's the folder name |
| 10:35.30 | Wobin_ | CompostLib is named CompostLib in the SVN, but MetrognomeLib is just Metrognome |
| 10:35.58 | Tekkub | :P |
| 10:36.08 | Tekkub | you're being anal picky |
| 10:36.23 | Tekkub | I'll name it what I feel like namin it, I didn't want a lib on Metro |
| 10:36.36 | Wobin_ | Yus I am =P |
| 10:36.46 | oxman | what's these libs ? |
| 10:37.09 | Wobin_ | By blind I mean I'm using TortoiseSVN and dropping in what I'm guessing is the correct folder name to get the folder |
| 10:37.14 | Tekkub | the reason Compost has a "Lib" on it was because the non-embed was just Compost |
| 10:37.37 | Tekkub | I honestly like them without the "Lib" |
| 10:37.47 | Wobin_ | But MetrognomeLib is named that as the filename =P |
| 10:38.10 | Wobin_ | I dunno, the Lib suffix does identify them better I'd say |
| 10:38.10 | Tekkub | yea don't ask me why I did that one... |
| 10:38.23 | Tekkub | fine... the files will get libs |
| 10:38.24 | Wobin_ | Doesn't detract from the name itself |
| 10:38.33 | Tekkub | no guarentee on the lua object tho |
| 10:38.41 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 10:39.04 | Wobin_ | That's alright, by that time they'd have got the file they were looking for |
| 10:42.50 | Neronix | I'm new around the Ace community so I think I should introduce myself :P |
| 10:43.01 | Neronix | I'm Neronix */wave* |
| 10:43.59 | Neronix | I'm just wanting to learn Lua because WoW addons interest me, I've not done serious coding before and I want to see whether I enjoy it because I'm considering coding as a future career path |
| 10:45.20 | Neronix | and that's my rather boring introduction :P |
| 10:47.34 | Wobin_ | Hullo Neronix |
| 10:47.39 | Wobin_ | Welcome to Ace =) |
| 10:48.04 | oxman | ace is boring |
| 10:48.05 | oxman | ace lag |
| 10:48.07 | Wobin_ | And this will be a good way to 'test the waters' so to speak |
| 10:48.09 | oxman | get out from here :p |
| 10:48.20 | id` | Neronix: oxman == baka |
| 10:48.26 | id` | Neronix: hai :) |
| 10:48.26 | Wobin_ | Ignore the oxman, he's being moronic =) |
| 10:48.30 | oxman | becareful, i know jap and chinese |
| 10:48.31 | oxman | ;) |
| 10:48.35 | id` | :> |
| 10:48.46 | oxman | and i know what baka mean |
| 10:48.47 | oxman | :D |
| 10:52.01 | Neronix | Hello Wobin_, oxman, id` and Tekkub :) |
| 10:52.14 | id` | oushi jin, hakuchi |
| 10:52.20 | Wobin_ | Bu li oxman, ta shi biaoyan dinengzhe =P |
| 10:52.50 | Neronix | ugh, I keep thinking shift-click does a /whois >.< |
| 10:53.07 | Neronix | too used to wow and too long since I've been on IRC |
| 10:53.14 | id` | heh |
| 10:53.47 | oxman | ah ah |
| 10:53.48 | oxman | ;D |
| 10:55.00 | Wobin_ | s/oxman/ta de niuren/ |
| 10:55.40 | Wobin_ | I thought I may as well translate your name, since it works so well =P |
| 10:57.59 | oxman | lol |
| 10:59.54 | oxman | 70$ petrol |
| 10:59.54 | oxman | historical record |
| 10:59.54 | oxman | :D |
| 11:01.22 | Wobin_ | how much per gallon/litre? |
| 11:01.32 | oxman | one baril |
| 11:01.35 | oxman | baryl ? |
| 11:01.53 | oxman | barrel |
| 11:01.53 | oxman | sorry :) |
| 11:02.02 | oxman | 70$ one barrel of petrol |
| 11:02.14 | oxman | when we speak about the price of petrol, the unit is always barrel |
| 11:02.22 | oxman | (yep i know it's strange ;p= |
| 11:02.55 | Wobin_ | meh |
| 11:03.05 | Wobin_ | I was thinking you were complaining about for your tank |
| 11:03.11 | oxman | lol no |
| 11:03.12 | oxman | :D |
| 11:03.15 | Wobin_ | Yes, I do know it's sold by the barrel =P |
| 11:03.30 | oxman | it's just a historical record price |
| 11:03.36 | oxman | (according to tv) |
| 11:18.03 | Tekkub | BAKA BAKA BAKA BAKA BAKA! |
| 11:18.44 | Tekkub | EngBank is spiffy, too bad it's code is so....yea... |
| 11:28.20 | Tain | Ow my head hurts. |
| 11:34.43 | Neronix | Is there a way for specific parts of addons to be load on demand? |
| 11:35.14 | Neronix | eg. some mod that uses a timer checking if timex is present, and if not, it'll load its own timing system |
| 11:36.05 | oxman | it's useless to do that :) |
| 11:37.14 | Neronix | how so? |
| 11:37.34 | Neronix | if a mod doesn't need to load its own timing system, wouldn't you save memory? |
| 11:38.24 | oxman | you will save only 1k or 2k |
| 11:38.25 | id` | Neronix: You cant have a part of an addon be load on demand. If it is laoded its loaded. all of it. |
| 11:38.27 | oxman | so it's useless :D |
| 11:38.37 | Neronix | I see, thanks |
| 11:39.03 | id` | Neronix: working on something? :) |
| 11:40.41 | Neronix | was just thinking randomly and that popped into my head :) |
| 11:41.29 | Neronix | Just started learning Lua so it's a bit early for me to write something :P |
| 11:54.15 | Tekkub | you can, however, design the code so it stays dormant if it's not needed |
| 11:54.33 | Tekkub | if you create you tables only when needed your code will be small |
| 11:54.51 | Tekkub | raw code == tiny, tables == not so tiny |
| 11:55.59 | Tekkub | though one-time memory use isn't a huge deal, it's churning out garbage that's a problem |
| 11:56.43 | Neronix | I see, thanks |
| 11:57.36 | Tekkub | for example, say you have a big old table full of data, but you don't need it immediatly at load, hell you might never need it... |
| 11:58.06 | Tekkub | throw it in a function. when you need the data call the function if the table doesn't exist, the function sets the table for you |
| 11:58.37 | Tekkub | that table might take up a lot of space when defined, but as a function it's rather small |
| 12:01.35 | Neronix | noted, thanks |
| 12:04.40 | id` | Tekkub: ah cleverness |
| 12:04.54 | id` | like pt |
| 12:04.55 | id` | ? |
| 12:05.10 | Tekkub | kinda, kinda not |
| 12:05.58 | Tekkub | I could employ it in PT if I wanted to completely negate out the strings that are loaded on load |
| 12:05.58 | id` | k |
| 12:06.07 | Tekkub | but they're small as is |
| 12:06.12 | id` | yea |
| 12:06.35 | Tekkub | 48KiB at load |
| 12:06.41 | Tekkub | :) |
| 12:07.07 | id` | ;o |
| 12:07.36 | Tekkub | hrm.... |
| 12:08.07 | Tekkub | WarmUp sees PT as taking up 784KiB tho... |
| 12:08.19 | Tekkub | I wonder which file's causing that |
| 12:09.01 | Tekkub | oh it could be compost... hum... *tests* |
| 12:12.14 | Mikma | yeah i noticed the same yesterday |
| 12:12.21 | Mikma | but didn't think it was odd :P |
| 12:14.47 | Mikma | Tekkub: who's updating the zg-files of BW? |
| 12:15.14 | Tekkub | kek, it was my own stupid test that I just added |
| 12:15.37 | Tekkub | I llove proving myself right and at the same time forgetting I was and thinking it's a bug |
| 12:15.59 | Tekkub | ZG was from whatshisname |
| 12:16.08 | Tekkub | I credited him in the commit notes |
| 12:16.18 | Mikma | Shyva? |
| 12:16.43 | Mikma | nice timing |
| 12:17.01 | Tekkub | and no, PT pulls 293 KiB... that other ~500 KiB was the junk table I trhew in the bottom |
| 12:17.11 | Tekkub | no Shyva's done BWL and MC |
| 12:17.21 | Tekkub | just read the damn commit log |
| 12:17.32 | Mikma | do i really have to open firefox |
| 12:17.46 | Mikma | well is he maintaining the files anymore |
| 12:17.49 | Tekkub | do *I*? |
| 12:18.05 | Tekkub | BigWigs - ZG updates from Wiebbe (plus some Tekkub edits) |
| 12:18.16 | Tekkub | I just committed up all that crap tonight, why? |
| 12:19.06 | Mikma | well last time i checked /ace list bigwigs there's 3 bosses on zg which are not on standby |
| 12:20.01 | Mikma | don't know have they been updated after it tho |
| 12:20.17 | Tekkub | the ZG mods were kinda relic |
| 12:20.28 | Tekkub | I hadn't touched em since I first started BW |
| 12:20.50 | Tekkub | the whole core had been changed since then |
| 12:20.54 | Mikma | we'll i'll suck new tarball and check it out |
| 12:21.08 | Tekkub | yea, lern2RSS |
| 12:21.34 | Neronix | that reminded me to go get TortoiseSVN :P |
| 12:21.35 | Mikma | well firefox devs should learn2codesupportforrss |
| 12:21.35 | Tekkub | hint: always update your copy off the SVN before you whine at me :) |
| 12:21.47 | Tekkub | meh, screw firefox |
| 12:21.51 | Mikma | whine? you always take everything as a whine? |
| 12:22.05 | Tekkub | http://www.rssfwd.com/ |
| 12:22.19 | Tekkub | and yes, live with my husband and you'd understand |
| 12:22.48 | Mikma | ok you surprised me. unless you're gay, then you must be a woman |
| 12:23.06 | Tain | Or an alien. |
| 12:23.07 | Tekkub | wow that's some logic there boy! |
| 12:23.21 | Tekkub | I'm just a lowly furry perv |
| 12:23.27 | Mikma | well it's internet, you'll never know |
| 12:23.37 | Tekkub | I replaced Rowne in many ways ^^ |
| 12:24.39 | Tain | That reminds me, there was almost a big giant argument about Rowne in #wowi-lounge yesterday, someone was about to launch into a, "I hate Rowne" rant out of nowhere. |
| 12:24.42 | Mikma | still, i wasn't whining at you, i only said the last time i checked they were not on standby :P |
| 12:26.13 | Neronix | Didn't Rowne leave the ui scene? |
| 12:26.19 | Tain | A long time ago. |
| 12:26.33 | Tain | Some people just hold nonsensical grudges. |
| 12:26.57 | Neronix | Why? |
| 12:27.41 | Tain | Rowne's personality clashed with some people's. Not intentionally, it's just the way different people are. |
| 12:27.49 | Neronix | I see |
| 12:30.08 | Mikma | oh this is horrible, QuickMountEquip is crap |
| 12:30.42 | Mikma | when i mount or dismount the memory usage jumps from 0.2KiB to 37KiB |
| 12:33.44 | Neronix | Hmm, here's a simple idea for my first addon |
| 12:34.06 | Neronix | A little something to keep AH window from being accidentally closed by other frames |
| 12:34.32 | Neronix | Involves looking at Auctioneer's code and cleaning it up |
| 12:34.52 | Neronix | easy for a beginner? |
| 12:37.27 | id` | < Tekkub> I replaced Rowne in many ways ^^ |
| 12:37.28 | id` | ha |
| 12:39.12 | id` | Tain: well what do you expect when you are telling people not to kill eachother but to hold hands and walk up mountains, in a MMORPG |
| 12:39.23 | oxman | LINEAGE 2 |
| 12:39.29 | oxman | ups it's not the subject ? |
| 12:39.29 | Tekkub | Milk: it might not be QME's fault, those swaps trigger bag and inventory updates, lots of mods scan shit on those events |
| 12:39.36 | id` | oxman: :S |
| 12:39.42 | oxman | ;D |
| 12:40.44 | *** join/#wowace Jarentha1 (n=Roo@cpe-066-057-087-213.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 12:40.47 | oxman | but it's true ;p |
| 12:42.53 | Neronix | hmm |
| 12:43.11 | Neronix | How major are the UI changes between 1.10 and 1.10.1? |
| 12:43.13 | Mikma | Tekkub: well, i'm giving a try on your mountme now and see what happens but you really got a point. |
| 12:43.31 | Neronix | I have a EU client and it's still on 1.10 :S |
| 12:43.35 | Tekkub | bag scanning is fucking painful |
| 12:43.46 | Tekkub | the zoning time issue proves that |
| 12:44.24 | Neronix | indeed |
| 12:44.42 | Mikma | i'm just wondering that why qme should scan the bags because you'll have to put the items in the gui you wan't it to equip. does the addon look them by name from bags then |
| 12:46.52 | Neronix | Hmm... why're UNIT_HEALTH, UNIT_MANA and UNIT_RAGE not in the blacklists for zoning optimisers? |
| 12:47.10 | Neronix | They'd fire a lot when you're zoning in/out of instances, wouldn't they? |
| 12:47.25 | Neronix | Are they even needed while zoning? |
| 12:48.13 | otravi | They do, but addons like AUF will suffer from it (I think) |
| 12:48.50 | oxman | :p |
| 12:48.54 | Neronix | I see |
| 12:49.19 | oxman | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=343889&p=1&tmp=1#post343889 |
| 12:49.25 | oxman | great post :D |
| 12:49.27 | oxman | as always |
| 12:49.59 | oxman | often lots of new gui api :/ |
| 12:50.04 | oxman | but i don't like gui.. |
| 12:50.12 | otravi | wth, I can't have VLC render movies in opengl ;( |
| 12:51.02 | Mikma | oh lookie lookie, lots of sloukens posts again hehe |
| 12:52.02 | Mikma | haha! "Edit: Tricked Iriel into adding ZOMG. :)" |
| 12:52.27 | oxman | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=358026&p=1&tmp=1#post358026 |
| 12:52.30 | oxman | VERY VERY cool !! |
| 12:52.31 | oxman | I love |
| 12:52.37 | oxman | http://youtube.com/watch?v=tSS1kRb7gl8 |
| 12:52.38 | oxman | watch the demo |
| 12:53.08 | Mikma | hmm i tried the 1.0 version of that |
| 12:53.23 | oxman | it's cool to use ? |
| 12:53.35 | Mikma | didn't work for some reason properly |
| 12:53.42 | Mikma | i was able to scroll the talents but not to use them |
| 12:53.55 | oxman | so we need to fix it :p |
| 12:54.59 | oxman | is it good to use ? |
| 12:55.12 | oxman | i want say... ergonomic ? etc ? |
| 12:55.27 | Mikma | atleast i didn't find any good use for it |
| 12:55.36 | Mikma | can't either think a way to use it |
| 12:56.13 | Mikma | so i added it to a category "nice but useless" with HUD inside my head ;) |
| 12:57.13 | oxman | ;D |
| 12:57.37 | Neronix | whoa, nice |
| 12:57.44 | otravi | I currently use it to change gear |
| 12:57.47 | Neronix | Reminds me of Secret of Mana And Seiken Densetsu 3 |
| 12:58.06 | oxman | yep very cool to see :D |
| 12:58.11 | oxman | but usefull ? :D |
| 12:58.13 | oxman | i dunno |
| 12:58.14 | Neronix | but it's not going to work for WoW really |
| 12:58.43 | Mikma | Neronix: " SelectionRing is a World of Warcraft recreation of the Secret of Mana/Seiken Densetsu interface." |
| 12:58.54 | oxman | ;p |
| 12:59.38 | Neronix | Didn't read the description |
| 12:59.42 | Neronix | I just recognised it :P |
| 13:00.12 | Neronix | but it won't work for WoW, because in SoM/SD, the menus paused the game |
| 13:00.13 | oxman | help me to find the utility |
| 13:00.16 | Neronix | and you don't pause wow |
| 13:00.16 | oxman | because i want use it !! |
| 13:00.19 | oxman | :D |
| 13:00.28 | oxman | no problem :p |
| 13:01.47 | Neronix | Let's see you try finding the right spell to use in less than 10 seconds :P |
| 13:02.19 | oxman | i can't use it to cast a spell |
| 13:02.23 | oxman | because i'm healer |
| 13:02.29 | oxman | and i use only keyboard to cast spell |
| 13:02.29 | oxman | :p |
| 13:03.09 | Neronix | what else can you do with it then? |
| 13:03.29 | oxman | i dunno :D |
| 13:03.37 | oxman | it's why i need your help to find an idea to use it |
| 13:03.38 | oxman | ;p |
| 13:03.57 | Neronix | hmm |
| 13:04.53 | Neronix | does it only show the highest rank of each spell? |
| 13:05.04 | Neronix | if not, then you could use it when trying to buff a lowbie I guess |
| 13:05.06 | Tain | It's good for use when you're not in combat, for spells you don't cast often. |
| 13:05.17 | oxman | i use my personnal bestspell to help low level |
| 13:05.25 | oxman | it's true Tain ! |
| 13:05.27 | oxman | Very good usage |
| 13:05.31 | oxman | or for buff |
| 13:05.32 | oxman | :DD |
| 13:05.40 | oxman | thanks a lot |
| 13:05.42 | Tain | I just don't buff low-levels and saves the aggrivation of finding the right spell. |
| 13:05.45 | Neronix | yeah, but didn't you say you use the keyboard for spells |
| 13:05.51 | Neronix | that stopped me from suggesting that |
| 13:05.56 | oxman | Tain use a bestspell addon ;) |
| 13:06.00 | oxman | for buff i can use my mouse |
| 13:06.01 | oxman | :D |
| 13:06.48 | Neronix | er, is using B:Lua a good idea? |
| 13:06.55 | oxman | ? |
| 13:07.18 | Tain | I don't remember if I liked it or not. I think I might have. |
| 13:07.23 | Tain | But I use Scite. |
| 13:07.32 | Neronix | oxman: Lua IDE designed specifically for wow usage |
| 13:07.50 | oxman | scintilla is the best |
| 13:07.50 | oxman | ;p |
| 13:07.54 | oxman | yep Tain :p |
| 13:08.02 | Tain | I think it just wasn't developed enough when I looked at it, Neronix. |
| 13:08.17 | Tain | But that was... maybe even a year ago. |
| 13:08.22 | Neronix | I tried importing a zip with the default interface files and it's stalling at loading mpq archives :S |
| 13:08.22 | id` | i use vim |
| 13:08.23 | id` | :P |
| 13:08.25 | id` | vim.org |
| 13:08.34 | Neronix | Tried vim a year or so ago |
| 13:08.44 | oxman | vim is good too :D |
| 13:08.47 | Neronix | too power-userish for me :P |
| 13:08.55 | id` | :> |
| 13:09.12 | otravi | I use scite :o |
| 13:09.15 | Neronix | I just stuck to notepad for stuff and ConText for lua |
| 13:09.26 | Neronix | but ConText doesn't really cut it for me |
| 13:09.45 | Tain | I liked ConText too, but it was really buggy for me. Or at least there were a few things that didn't work the way I wanted, I forget which. |
| 13:09.52 | Neronix | I'll try out Scite |
| 13:10.47 | Neronix | Ah, designed for WoW :) |
| 13:11.04 | oxman | scite ? no |
| 13:11.22 | Neronix | http://www.wowguru.com/ui/61/wow-scite-lua/ |
| 13:11.41 | Neronix | ah, it's a modified version of the official release >.< |
| 13:11.45 | oxman | :p |
| 13:11.53 | otravi | I use the default :o |
| 13:11.59 | oxman | default too |
| 13:11.59 | Neronix | you win a free slap, oxman :P |
| 13:12.18 | Tain | http://gisdeveloper.tripod.com/scite.html is the Scite install I used, and then customized. |
| 13:12.29 | Tain | It includes Lua tweaks. |
| 13:12.55 | Neronix | Thanks |
| 13:12.58 | Tain | And a later version of Scite than what's at that site. |
| 13:13.09 | Tain | The site that must not be named. |
| 13:13.48 | Neronix | WowGuru? |
| 13:14.44 | Neronix | I guess that's a yes o.o |
| 13:14.59 | Tain | I'm not a fan of the person running that site and won't recommend it to anyone. But that's just me. |
| 13:15.10 | id` | what he hosts files? |
| 13:15.17 | id` | of scite? |
| 13:15.22 | id` | does the author know? |
| 13:15.28 | Neronix | I don't use it either |
| 13:15.42 | Neronix | I just found a link to that modified version of scite from wowwiki |
| 13:16.20 | Tain | There's also here to see other editors. http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaEditorSupport |
| 13:16.30 | oxman | :p |
| 13:17.17 | Tain | You know I haven't looked at LuaEdit in a long time and there's newer versions. I think I'll look. |
| 13:19.41 | oxman | :p |
| 13:19.51 | oxman | i use scite for all language |
| 13:19.53 | oxman | php |
| 13:19.54 | oxman | html |
| 13:19.56 | oxman | ruby |
| 13:20.01 | oxman | lua |
| 13:20.25 | id` | ORLY? |
| 13:20.32 | id` | purl: ORLY? |
| 13:20.37 | oxman | orly ? |
| 13:20.44 | id` | purl: O RLY? |
| 13:20.45 | purl | ACTION sings with id` |
| 13:20.52 | id` | haha |
| 13:20.54 | Tain | Yeah. Well I only use it for Lua, and XML since I haven't installed XMLSpy yet on my new PC. |
| 13:21.08 | oxman | oh true, i use it for xml too :D |
| 13:21.41 | Neronix | How often will I have to work with XML when coding addons? |
| 13:21.49 | oxman | it's depend |
| 13:21.53 | Tain | As much or as little as you like. |
| 13:21.55 | Neronix | I've peeked into their xml files before and it's scary :S |
| 13:22.01 | oxman | if you don't make a gui |
| 13:22.06 | oxman | you will not use xml so much |
| 13:22.12 | oxman | bit if you make a gui... lots of xml |
| 13:22.12 | Neronix | I see |
| 13:22.19 | Neronix | Thanks |
| 13:22.32 | Tain | You don't need any XML anymore, for the most part. You can create the GUI elements (a lot of them) from Lua now. |
| 13:22.55 | oxman | yep but to design a gui |
| 13:22.55 | Neronix | Great :) |
| 13:22.59 | oxman | it's not very user friendly |
| 13:23.00 | oxman | :D |
| 13:23.55 | Tain | The XML isn't user friendly either if you're not used to it, so if you're starting new it's the same either way. |
| 13:24.16 | oxman | it's true, but more difficult without xml |
| 13:24.28 | oxman | i hate scroll frame in xml |
| 13:24.31 | oxman | it's very dirty :D |
| 13:24.38 | oxman | (to make one) |
| 13:25.05 | Neronix | I don't think I'll be needing GUIs for a while though so no need to worry I suppose |
| 13:25.17 | oxman | i think too for your example of AH |
| 13:25.17 | oxman | :) |
| 13:25.32 | oxman | in general you like ui ? |
| 13:27.18 | Neronix | I prefer slash commands |
| 13:27.31 | oxman | :( |
| 13:27.36 | Neronix | I'm running a really crappy computer |
| 13:27.43 | oxman | lol |
| 13:27.49 | Neronix | So the less resources I use, the better |
| 13:28.03 | Neronix | that's the only reason I prefer / |
| 13:28.21 | Neronix | if there's a gui that I don't need to have loaded all the time, I'll use it |
| 13:28.37 | oxman | you play in alt-w mode ? :p |
| 13:28.41 | id` | < Neronix> I prefer slash commands |
| 13:28.43 | id` | yay! |
| 13:28.44 | id` | :D |
| 13:28.53 | oxman | i have a question |
| 13:29.05 | Neronix | what's alt-w mode? windowed? |
| 13:29.06 | id` | o |
| 13:29.08 | oxman | is it possible to make ALL frames (of all addon) transparent without set each transparent ? |
| 13:29.17 | oxman | like a global parameter to set all frames transparent ? |
| 13:29.28 | id` | oxman: probably only in your imagination |
| 13:29.32 | id` | i see no reason for it though |
| 13:29.35 | oxman | or modify uiparent or i don't know to do that |
| 13:29.49 | oxman | i see one reason. |
| 13:30.01 | oxman | i like alt-w mode |
| 13:30.03 | oxman | is cool |
| 13:30.07 | id` | wtf is alt-w mode |
| 13:30.09 | oxman | but i want alt-w mode + chat |
| 13:30.09 | oxman | :) |
| 13:30.26 | id` | ? |
| 13:30.35 | hyperactiveZzzzz | it's the Win-mode |
| 13:30.38 | oxman | yep an alt-w mode with chat frame |
| 13:30.42 | hyperactiveZzzzz | Alt-W is the IWIN button |
| 13:30.53 | id` | oxman: WHAT IS alt-w mode |
| 13:31.04 | oxman | hum it's seems a french shortcut |
| 13:31.09 | oxman | its the interface without any frame |
| 13:31.13 | oxman | (often use for screenshot) |
| 13:31.14 | hyperactiveZzzzz | alt-z |
| 13:31.16 | id` | oxman: i dont have any default shortcuts |
| 13:31.18 | hyperactiveZzzzz | is default |
| 13:31.22 | oxman | ok sorry, alt-w in french :D |
| 13:31.31 | oxman | (qwerty , azerty :p) |
| 13:31.37 | hyperactiveZzzzz | it's called Hide Interface I think |
| 13:31.46 | Neronix | ah |
| 13:31.50 | oxman | then, i want an alt-z mode + chat frames |
| 13:31.50 | oxman | :) |
| 13:32.02 | id` | no, you want a hidden interface with only chat |
| 13:32.05 | id` | >_> |
| 13:32.08 | hyperactiveZzzzz | right |
| 13:32.12 | oxman | lol its an other way to say that |
| 13:32.20 | Neronix | hmm only idea I can come up with is hooking whatever function hides the ui |
| 13:32.22 | oxman | it's why i want a global method to hide all rames |
| 13:32.24 | hyperactiveZzzzz | because there's lots of things you can't do in hidden interface mode |
| 13:32.31 | oxman | because set each frame, is very dependent of your addons |
| 13:32.35 | hyperactiveZzzzz | so use visor |
| 13:32.44 | oxman | it's for a user friendly addon |
| 13:32.47 | oxman | not only for me |
| 13:32.47 | oxman | :D |
| 13:32.51 | id` | yes, use visor to make the chat frame independent of UIParent |
| 13:32.54 | id` | then hide UIParent |
| 13:33.01 | hyperactiveZzzzz | un...exactly |
| 13:33.09 | oxman | oh very good idea !!! |
| 13:33.09 | hyperactiveZzzzz | =) |
| 13:33.14 | id` | ;) |
| 13:33.18 | oxman | thanks :D |
| 13:33.20 | id` | np |
| 13:33.21 | oxman | i will try that after L2 |
| 13:33.27 | id` | ;p |
| 13:33.32 | oxman | because i've already done my mode for chat frames :p |
| 13:33.43 | oxman | the chat is hidden, but when someone talk, the chat fade in |
| 13:33.49 | oxman | or when i use [enter] |
| 13:33.54 | oxman | then it fade on after 10 sec |
| 13:33.55 | oxman | :D |
| 13:34.26 | oxman | use that with a mod like EP_VoileMortel to see red border when your health is low is perfect |
| 13:34.29 | oxman | it's very immersive |
| 13:35.04 | oxman | you must try 10mn :) |
| 13:35.31 | id` | i dont play wow anymore |
| 13:35.39 | oxman | me too in fact ;p |
| 13:35.46 | oxman | in fact, i play, but very little |
| 13:35.50 | id` | my account is frozen |
| 13:35.56 | oxman | my not :D |
| 13:35.58 | id` | i dont have it installed |
| 13:36.01 | id` | i cant play |
| 13:36.23 | oxman | i have receive a warnin from a gm :( |
| 13:36.27 | id` | owned |
| 13:36.28 | oxman | because i talk often on /1 |
| 13:36.39 | oxman | i have mail blizzard :p |
| 13:36.57 | oxman | because in the rules i can talk often on /1 :) |
| 13:37.08 | id` | i dont even had /1 in my chat frame when i played |
| 13:37.11 | oxman | lots of french people insult me when i talk on /1 :D |
| 13:37.16 | oxman | yeah that's good ! |
| 13:37.22 | oxman | i say : if you don't like /1 leave it please |
| 13:37.26 | Neronix | oxman: are you a permanent resident of the barrens? :S |
| 13:37.39 | oxman | nop, but the capital at the moment |
| 13:37.42 | oxman | (because i play very little :p) |
| 13:38.49 | id` | so you are an anoying person |
| 13:38.55 | id` | if people fill in tickets to gm's about you |
| 13:39.01 | id` | blizzard has the right to take action |
| 13:39.16 | id` | the end |
| 13:39.20 | oxman | in fact no, because the rules say i can talk on /1 |
| 13:39.21 | oxman | :D |
| 13:39.28 | Tain | I leave 1 as soon as I log on any new character |
| 13:39.31 | id` | the rules also say Gm's are always right |
| 13:39.35 | oxman | i say no offense on /1 nothing like that |
| 13:39.37 | id` | me2 tain |
| 13:39.42 | oxman | you will see no ;p |
| 13:39.43 | Tain | Actually /leave 1,3,4 I believe |
| 13:39.54 | oxman | i like /1 it's fun :D |
| 13:39.59 | id` | whats 2/3/4 again ;x |
| 13:40.08 | oxman | lfg |
| 13:40.10 | oxman | commerce |
| 13:40.13 | oxman | trading |
| 13:40.14 | id` | only idiots go on /1, i dont want all that spam |
| 13:40.15 | oxman | sorry :D |
| 13:40.23 | id` | :P |
| 13:40.25 | oxman | i'm a cool idiot ;p |
| 13:40.42 | id` | w/e |
| 13:41.59 | hyperactiveZzzzz | yea, General chat is perma-squelched here, too |
| 13:42.14 | oxman | lol |
| 13:42.18 | hyperactiveZzzzz | besides, why prattle in General when you can use WorldDefense |
| 13:42.23 | hyperactiveZzzzz | >8D |
| 13:42.33 | oxman | people use often /1 on your server ? |
| 13:42.39 | hyperactiveZzzzz | wouldn't know |
| 13:42.46 | oxman | on french server we see only 10 sentences each hour on /1 |
| 13:42.52 | Neronix | I had a friend who was a high rank and always slagged people on WorldDefense |
| 13:42.56 | Neronix | now he's not my friend :P |
| 13:43.11 | oxman | lol |
| 13:43.14 | oxman | it's fun that ;D |
| 13:43.24 | oxman | i want do that lol |
| 13:43.31 | Neronix | Maybe, but it's plain abuse of WorldDefense |
| 13:43.31 | hyperactiveZzzzz | I turned it off when I was level 14 in DarkShore after the 17th time in 10 minutes hearing "WHERE IS TEH RED CRYSTAL?!?" |
| 13:43.44 | oxman | lol |
| 13:43.53 | oxman | it's true Neronix :) |
| 13:45.30 | hyperactiveZzzzz | [2. World Defense] [Grand Marshal Mynithrosil]: good morning, Feathermoon! I will be in Darnassus today from 13:00-15:00 server time. If you'd like to stop by and admire my phat pvp lewtz, I'll be standing next to the battlemasters. /salute! |
| 13:45.45 | oxman | ;D |
| 13:46.09 | hyperactiveZzzzz | actually, I'm kidding; i have that channel off too =P |
| 13:48.17 | Neronix | there's probably someone somewhere who's actually like that |
| 13:48.30 | Neronix | that's the scary thing :S |
| 13:49.05 | hyperChipmunk | there's people on my server who congratulate each other on their awesome raid kills in WD |
| 13:49.08 | Neronix | and btw, http://ace.pastebin.com/659505 - stuff for the AH window protector I'm making a feeble attempt at writing + question |
| 13:53.20 | Neronix | wait, do I need to define AHProtectWin_ProtectionEnabled before the function is called? |
| 13:54.28 | oxman | try :D |
| 13:54.41 | oxman | my addons are well design |
| 13:54.49 | oxman | so i never call a function before they define |
| 13:54.50 | oxman | ;) |
| 13:54.57 | Neronix | ok |
| 13:55.04 | oxman | i don't know if it's work if you call before the define |
| 13:55.05 | Neronix | just AHProtectWin_ProtectionEnabled = nil? |
| 13:55.14 | oxman | why you need that ? |
| 13:55.15 | oxman | try |
| 13:55.19 | oxman | and if you must define before |
| 13:55.23 | oxman | put your function above |
| 13:55.37 | Neronix | ok |
| 13:55.47 | Neronix | and is it ok to make it a local variable? |
| 13:55.57 | oxman | yep |
| 13:56.05 | Neronix | ok, thanks |
| 13:57.15 | Neronix | so just: local AHProtectWin_ProtectionEnabled = nil? |
| 13:57.22 | oxman | forget |
| 13:57.28 | oxman | you don't read what i said |
| 13:57.47 | Neronix | I did |
| 13:57.57 | Neronix | I was wondering if that's how you define it as a local variable |
| 13:58.10 | oxman | it's a function or a variable ? |
| 13:58.17 | Neronix | variable |
| 13:58.31 | oxman | you don't need to initialize first |
| 13:58.33 | oxman | but if you want : |
| 13:58.36 | oxman | local var |
| 13:58.41 | oxman | by default it's nil |
| 13:58.45 | Neronix | ok, thanks |
| 14:20.12 | Neronix | How do people handle basic localisation of their addons? |
| 14:20.28 | Neronix | basic, as in just the description in the TOC |
| 14:20.46 | Neronix | do you ask people to translate or use google translator? |
| 14:20.52 | Neronix | morning Cairenn |
| 14:20.56 | Cairenn | morning |
| 14:21.00 | oxman | often they're not translated :D |
| 14:21.11 | oxman | sometime they use google |
| 14:21.15 | otravi | I second that |
| 14:21.19 | oxman | sometime they wait for an user translate it |
| 14:21.19 | oxman | :D |
| 14:21.19 | otravi | the not translated :p |
| 14:21.23 | hC|school | /wave cai |
| 14:21.29 | Cairenn | hey :) |
| 14:21.31 | Neronix | yeah, but it's nice to translate what you can |
| 14:21.36 | hC|school | I"m not here |
| 14:21.52 | Cairenn | of course not! you're at school! |
| 14:22.12 | hC|school | right! just like you're sleeping! |
| 14:22.28 | hC|school | i figure, 'hey, if it works for cai...' |
| 14:22.40 | Cairenn | lol |
| 14:22.48 | Neronix | oh crap, just remembered something |
| 14:23.04 | hC|school | actually, I'm leavin' now. take care, folks! seeyaz later |
| 14:23.04 | oxman | your homework ? |
| 14:23.16 | Neronix | see when you're inputting accented characters and stuff, do you have to do the \somenumber stuff? |
| 14:23.33 | oxman | http://www.allegro-c.de/unicode/zcodes.htm |
| 14:23.42 | oxman | you must yes |
| 14:23.47 | oxman | é = \195\168 |
| 14:23.49 | oxman | for exampel |
| 14:23.52 | Neronix | thanks |
| 14:24.49 | otravi | I should make myself a PHP app to do that for me =\ |
| 14:24.58 | oxman | it's already exist :p |
| 14:25.02 | otravi | oh? |
| 14:25.04 | oxman | but don't remember where :D |
| 14:25.11 | otravi | that doesn't help me much :p |
| 14:25.14 | oxman | i have see more url that doing that |
| 14:25.14 | oxman | ;D |
| 14:25.16 | oxman | wait |
| 14:25.20 | oxman | i try to find it |
| 14:25.23 | oxman | i'll |
| 14:26.31 | oxman | http://membres.lycos.fr/darktemplars/accentConverter.php |
| 14:26.31 | oxman | :) |
| 14:26.53 | oxman | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=908 find here with google lol |
| 14:26.53 | otravi | :----D |
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| 14:27.26 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [MoonWolf]] by ChanServ |
| 14:27.44 | Neronix | Bookmarked, and thanks |
| 14:27.52 | Neronix | makes everything so much easier |
| 14:28.05 | oxman | ;) |
| 14:28.21 | oxman | in fact me i wrote directly é è in file |
| 14:28.28 | oxman | then at the hand i do a replace with scite :D |
| 14:29.04 | oxman | hand/end |
| 14:29.04 | oxman | :( |
| 14:29.06 | Tain | Hey that's pretty handy. I'm bookmarking that. |
| 14:29.30 | [MoonWolf] | hello neronix, are you new here ? |
| 14:29.31 | oxman | hey hey :D |
| 14:29.40 | oxman | yes he's [MoonWolf] :) |
| 14:29.42 | Neronix | [MoonWolf]: Very :) |
| 14:29.42 | [MoonWolf] | welcome then. |
| 14:29.45 | Neronix | Thanks |
| 14:35.31 | oxman | then... i will test the hidden UIParent :D |
| 14:35.56 | oxman | the most cleaner ui on the world for wow ;D |
| 14:36.01 | Neronix | What do you all use for editing XML? |
| 14:36.10 | oxman | scite |
| 14:36.20 | Neronix | ok, thanks |
| 14:38.00 | Tain | I use Scite right now, was using XMLSpy but really just because of the scheme validation. |
| 14:38.13 | Tain | s/scheme/schema/ |
| 14:38.56 | Neronix | I see |
| 14:39.03 | Neronix | What's schema? |
| 14:39.10 | Neronix | <--- XML n00b |
| 14:39.38 | Neronix | in fact, I'll google |
| 14:39.43 | Neronix | gut feeling tells me its complex :S |
| 14:40.23 | oxman | forget schema :p |
| 14:40.32 | oxman | you know html ? |
| 14:40.34 | oxman | xml is like html |
| 14:40.35 | oxman | :) |
| 14:40.42 | Neronix | I know a little bit of html |
| 14:40.55 | oxman | you don't need more :) |
| 14:41.08 | Neronix | I see, thanks |
| 14:41.19 | [MoonWolf] | a schema defines what tags and atributes go to gether and how those work. |
| 14:41.49 | oxman | and the schema given by Blizzard is wrong :') |
| 14:42.34 | Neronix | I see |
| 14:42.37 | Tain | It doesn't matter much whether it's right or wrong, you still have to be able to validate against UI.XSD |
| 14:44.26 | Neronix | so basically I just need to keep my syntax correct? |
| 14:44.45 | oxman | yep |
| 14:44.55 | Neronix | ok |
| 15:09.22 | Cairenn | Tain: you around? |
| 15:10.15 | oxman | turnnnnnn around |
| 15:11.23 | oxman | <OnUpdate>CleanUI:OnUpdate()</OnUpdate> |
| 15:11.26 | oxman | why i can't do that ? |
| 15:11.36 | Tain | Turn around bright eyes |
| 15:11.37 | oxman | "attempt to call method 'OnUpdate' (a nil value)" |
| 15:12.07 | Cairenn | Tain: nm, the reason I was checking you are already dealing with, so it's all good |
| 15:12.38 | Tain | :) I'm half-around while I contemplate on what to do with the rest of my life. :) |
| 15:23.25 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, problems with mendeleev taht were reported in the thread have been fixed. |
| 15:24.19 | [MoonWolf] | I dont remember you telling me about chat command being gone .... |
| 15:25.26 | oxman | <oxman> <OnUpdate>CleanUI:OnUpdate()</OnUpdate> |
| 15:25.29 | oxman | <oxman> why i can't do that ? |
| 15:25.36 | oxman | <oxman> "attempt to call method 'OnUpdate' (a nil value)" |
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| 15:26.00 | ag` | How do I create a table reference out of strings |
| 15:26.17 | ag` | like how getgobal works for frames |
| 15:26.23 | ag` | or should I just use getglobal too? |
| 15:27.03 | [MoonWolf] | no idea :( |
| 15:27.24 | ag` | like table = getglobal(sometext..someothertext) |
| 15:27.36 | [MoonWolf] | oxman, is your xml loaded before your lua in your toc ? |
| 15:28.22 | [MoonWolf] | if yes is there a <script>somefile.lua</script> in your xml ? |
| 15:28.35 | oxman | nop |
| 15:28.40 | oxman | CleanUI.lua |
| 15:28.41 | oxman | CleanUI.xml |
| 15:28.42 | oxman | in toc |
| 15:28.48 | [MoonWolf] | weird... |
| 15:28.55 | [MoonWolf] | dont know then :( |
| 15:29.01 | oxman | it's very strange |
| 15:29.10 | oxman | it's seems all my function in CleanUI class is undefined |
| 15:29.25 | oxman | but CleanUI is register in Ace :( |
| 15:29.45 | oxman | i can do a /cui ? i see information about the addon |
| 15:29.51 | oxman | but a /dump CleanUI show : |
| 15:29.54 | oxman | CleanUI = { |
| 15:30.09 | oxman | [0]=<userdata CleanUI[0]> |
| 15:30.11 | oxman | } |
| 15:31.49 | [MoonWolf] | i have no idea what is going on there |
| 15:32.57 | oxman | i comment all my function except CleanUI:OnUpdate, always the same result :( |
| 15:33.54 | oxman | i comment all functions and make a new : |
| 15:33.56 | oxman | function CleanUI:test() |
| 15:33.56 | oxman | message("some test"); |
| 15:33.57 | oxman | end |
| 15:34.05 | oxman | always the same result :( |
| 15:37.02 | oxman | i've often very strange bug :D |
| 15:39.51 | oxman | ah ah amazing, without any addon except CleanUI and Ace, the same problem... |
| 15:39.52 | oxman | :'D |
| 15:41.35 | oxman | i'm stupid ;p |
| 15:41.38 | oxman | i know the problem lol |
| 15:41.52 | oxman | it's work now :D |
| 15:41.58 | oxman | <Frame name="CleanUI"> |
| 15:42.00 | oxman | very bad idea ;p |
| 15:42.03 | oxman | <Frame name="CleanUIFrame"> |
| 15:42.05 | oxman | is better |
| 15:42.05 | oxman | ;D |
| 15:42.18 | [MoonWolf] | lots better |
| 15:42.24 | oxman | yep :) |
| 15:42.28 | oxman | a stupid bug :p |
| 15:42.36 | [MoonWolf] | you should mention that next time :P |
| 15:42.45 | oxman | ;D |
| 15:42.53 | oxman | i can do :SetParent("") ? |
| 15:42.55 | oxman | isn't dirty ? |
| 15:43.17 | oxman | no i can't :D |
| 15:45.06 | Tem | Tekkub: |
| 15:45.09 | Tem | WARMUP |
| 15:45.11 | Tem | ON WOWI |
| 15:45.12 | Tem | NOW |
| 15:45.41 | oxman | hum :( |
| 15:45.58 | oxman | it's not a good idea to do UIParent:SetAlpha(0), because tooltips still work ;/ |
| 15:46.08 | oxman | i think move UIParent outside the screen is better |
| 15:51.32 | Tem | you can do SetParent(nil) |
| 15:55.17 | oxman | for the UIParent ? |
| 15:55.32 | Tem | UIParent already has no parent |
| 15:55.37 | oxman | ;p |
| 15:55.49 | oxman | you know the name of the frame's menu ? |
| 15:56.03 | oxman | UIMenu isn't ok :( |
| 15:59.57 | ag` | How do I copy a table :( |
| 16:00.09 | ag` | instead of just making a reference |
| 16:00.10 | oxman | table2 = table1 ? |
| 16:01.00 | cladhaire | ace:CopyTable() |
| 16:01.12 | cladhaire | err |
| 16:01.19 | cladhaire | Ace.CopyTable(t1, t2) actualy |
| 16:01.28 | cladhaire | the first table being the destination |
| 16:01.34 | oxman | cladhaire you here !!!?? |
| 16:01.41 | oxman | why you never respond when i talk to you ? |
| 16:01.44 | ag` | ok |
| 16:01.46 | oxman | i want help you with perfectraid |
| 16:03.01 | ag` | cladhaire, doesn't seem to work for local tables; wouldn't it be great if local table = ace:CopyTable(oldtable) worked? |
| 16:03.03 | Tem | oh good cladhaire. I've been needing to talk to you |
| 16:03.31 | Tem | ag`: local t = {} Ace.CopyTalbe(t,sourceTable) |
| 16:03.44 | Tem | cladhaire: AceHooks |
| 16:03.44 | ag` | ok |
| 16:03.58 | cladhaire | I wasn't really here |
| 16:04.01 | Tem | cladhaire: when you hook an absurd number of things, it takes up lots of memory |
| 16:04.11 | cladhaire | ag`: If would work for local tables as well |
| 16:04.18 | cladhaire | Tem: Okay. |
| 16:04.32 | Tem | for example, hooking the OnEvent handler of 5000+ frames caused a 2mb increase in ui mem |
| 16:04.39 | cladhaire | Hrm. |
| 16:04.42 | cladhaire | just the hooking process? |
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| 16:04.55 | Tem | cladhaire: it's the tables in self.Hooks I think |
| 16:04.59 | cladhaire | aye |
| 16:05.05 | Tem | since it made and kep around a table for each hook |
| 16:05.13 | Tem | I had to stop using AceHooks in Catalyst |
| 16:05.21 | cladhaire | gimme a second |
| 16:05.37 | cladhaire | how can i activate catalyst to see th usage change? |
| 16:05.43 | Tem | zone |
| 16:05.52 | Tem | but you need to be using an old version |
| 16:05.54 | cladhaire | i want to do it manually |
| 16:05.58 | cladhaire | i have an old version |
| 16:06.01 | Tem | like 1.0.2 or 1.0.2 |
| 16:06.08 | cladhaire | I have 1.0 |
| 16:06.09 | Tem | Catalyst:BlockEvents() |
| 16:06.16 | cladhaire | k |
| 16:06.22 | cladhaire | and how to i unblock events? |
| 16:06.28 | Tem | I bet you can guess |
| 16:06.37 | Tem | Catalyst:UnBlockEvents() |
| 16:06.40 | Tem | er |
| 16:06.44 | Tem | UnblockEvents() |
| 16:07.00 | Tem | but UnhookAllScripts is really what you should call |
| 16:07.21 | cladhaire | 4 megs usage in my UI |
| 16:07.26 | Tem | ouch |
| 16:07.26 | cladhaire | none of which can be GC'd. |
| 16:07.30 | Tem | right |
| 16:07.43 | cladhaire | and I can GC it immediately afterwards |
| 16:07.43 | cladhaire | ok |
| 16:07.46 | cladhaire | I'll get on it |
| 16:07.51 | Tem | in my later versions, you don't see ANY memory increase :) |
| 16:07.54 | cladhaire | it was never meant to scale that high =) |
| 16:07.58 | Tem | right |
| 16:08.04 | cladhaire | How do you manage that? |
| 16:08.08 | Tem | I'm not sure that AceHooks even needs to worry about it |
| 16:08.21 | Tem | by not using AceHooks |
| 16:08.39 | cladhaire | but i mean |
| 16:08.42 | cladhaire | are you still safe hooking? |
| 16:08.44 | Tem | no |
| 16:08.47 | cladhaire | and what about the 5000 functions you generate? |
| 16:08.54 | Tem | I used 1 wrapper |
| 16:08.54 | cladhaire | you only generate one function?? |
| 16:09.01 | cladhaire | gimme a sec |
| 16:09.07 | Tem | it's a dirty hack |
| 16:09.10 | Tem | but it works |
| 16:09.21 | Tem | no one else should be hooking behind me |
| 16:09.31 | Tem | so I'm not /that/ worried about safe hooks |
| 16:09.34 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 16:09.38 | cladhaire | but its still not a safe assumption |
| 16:09.40 | cladhaire | i'll work on thi |
| 16:09.41 | Tem | right |
| 16:10.16 | Tem | I told people that any problems they have with Catalyst while also running nFLT are their problem |
| 16:10.30 | Tem | because I'm almost certain there will be an issue there |
| 16:10.44 | Tem | since neither of us are using safe hooks anymore |
| 16:10.48 | [MoonWolf] | I found a bugged oblin |
| 16:10.50 | [MoonWolf] | goblin* |
| 16:10.54 | [MoonWolf] | he doesnt take damage |
| 16:10.57 | [MoonWolf] | and he doesnt do damage |
| 16:11.17 | cladhaire | Tem: let me play, see if i can get you a good versino |
| 16:11.19 | cladhaire | and optimize a bit. |
| 16:11.25 | Tem | k |
| 16:11.29 | Tem | I'll embed it |
| 16:11.50 | Tem | cladhaire: the only thing I can think of is changing the way AceHooks stores it's hook info |
| 16:12.08 | Tem | and making self.Hooks a proxy to get at the info |
| 16:12.51 | cladhaire | we can do that.. but the info being stored at all will be expensive in that sort of environment |
| 16:12.54 | cladhaire | not to mentino the safe hook closures. |
| 16:13.13 | cladhaire | but it ALL appears to be the table. |
| 16:13.22 | cladhaire | which even something like compost wouldn't help |
| 16:15.03 | cladhaire | I've got some ideas that may help it. Use a local registry like I do in AceEvent, indexed by object (so there is only one table per namespace HOOKING) and then go granular from there in a number of tables. |
| 16:15.04 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 16:15.51 | cladhaire | HAHAHA |
| 16:15.56 | cladhaire | play with catalyst while you're playing the game |
| 16:15.58 | cladhaire | it gets really confused |
| 16:16.02 | cladhaire | with moving stuff in your bags around =) |
| 16:16.55 | [MoonWolf] | :P |
| 16:19.10 | ag` | cladhaire, I have a table inside the table I'm trying to copy, and when I manipulate data inside that table, the data still gets changed in the original one (if that made sense) |
| 16:19.28 | ag` | even when using ace.CopyTable |
| 16:20.06 | Tem | yes cladhaire. I tried that for a bit just to see what it would be like if certain events never fired :) |
| 16:20.22 | Tem | would this be a bad line in patch notes? "Put back an error prevention mechanism that was removed in 1.0.4. It only prevents errors that aren't Catalyst's fault, but I'm sick of heaing about them.? |
| 16:21.10 | cladhaire | hahah |
| 16:21.11 | cladhaire | nope =) |
| 16:21.22 | Wobin_ | Isn't ace.copytable only a shallow copy? |
| 16:21.22 | Tem | so, I should leave it off? |
| 16:21.28 | cladhaire | I'm pretty confident I can fix AceHook up for you |
| 16:21.31 | Tem | Wobin_: no, I think it's recursive |
| 16:21.33 | cladhaire | so gimme a bit ok? =) |
| 16:21.38 | Tem | cladhaire: that gives me a good feeling |
| 16:21.59 | Neronix | Ugh, visitors |
| 16:22.05 | cladhaire | i'll fix your specifi case first |
| 16:22.05 | ag` | doesn't seem recursive to me... Else I might just be stupid. |
| 16:22.07 | cladhaire | then fix the lib |
| 16:22.08 | Tem | oh crap |
| 16:22.09 | Neronix | lost agood 90 mins of coding to them >.> |
| 16:22.10 | Tem | Cairenn: |
| 16:22.13 | Tem | you around? |
| 16:22.16 | Cairenn | yup |
| 16:22.52 | Tem | oh good nevermind |
| 16:22.56 | Tem | I thought I had screwed up again |
| 16:22.59 | Tem | but I didn't |
| 16:23.02 | Cairenn | okay |
| 16:23.37 | Tem | arg! I hate users |
| 16:23.39 | Tem | "also ,seems that zoning time counter doesn't work very well if I'm using ntmysFixLoadingTimes at same time ,it works on first zone in and after it won't work anymore ." |
| 16:23.52 | Tem | me: "Any issues you have with Catalyst while running nFLT at the same time are your problem. I warned you that they won't play nice together." |
| 16:24.00 | [MoonWolf] | who the hell uses both these things at the same time... |
| 16:24.11 | Wobin_ | well duh |
| 16:24.16 | Wobin_ | If one makes one faster |
| 16:24.19 | Wobin_ | and another makes one faster |
| 16:24.28 | Wobin_ | Then both together will make it all fastererer! |
| 16:24.43 | [MoonWolf] | if that logical applied i would have a 2000" penis righ tnow. |
| 16:24.45 | Tem | The popularity of Catalyst is really getting to me |
| 16:25.30 | Wobin_ | [MoonWolf]: *unzip* *rollrollrollrollrollrollrollroll* *thud* |
| 16:25.37 | Tem | I can't stand that something I put 5 minutes into has gotten more than double the downloads of everything else I've ever written... combined |
| 16:25.37 | [MoonWolf] | yeah, i think that our we aer elitist and make efficient addons actually works in our advantage in this case. |
| 16:26.09 | Wobin_ | Tem: Catalyst is more of a temporary patchfix to a game issue than an addon. |
| 16:26.16 | Tem | still |
| 16:26.19 | [MoonWolf] | Wobin_, you can kiss sex beyong oral goodbye |
| 16:26.28 | Wobin_ | egh |
| 16:26.44 | Tem | I've put so much effort into other things and people just ignore them |
| 16:26.48 | Wobin_ | brings new meaning to the phrase "choke a bitch" |
| 16:26.49 | Tem | meh |
| 16:26.55 | Tem | I've got to go do some work |
| 16:26.57 | Tem | later guys |
| 16:27.01 | [MoonWolf] | cya tem. |
| 16:27.48 | Neronix | Bye Tem |
| 16:28.37 | Neronix | Random n00bish logic question: |
| 16:28.54 | Neronix | if ( event == "AUCTION_HOUSE_SHOW" or event == "AUCTION_HOUSE_CLOSED" ) ------- Is there a neater way of describing that? |
| 16:29.56 | oxman | it's good like that |
| 16:30.21 | Neronix | ok, was just checking if that's as tidy as I could get it |
| 16:30.22 | Neronix | thanks |
| 16:32.45 | [MoonWolf] | that is a perfectly fine if statement. |
| 16:34.25 | Neronix | Random question 2: Do you get local and global functions? if so, how do you make a function local? |
| 16:34.45 | Neronix | I don't want to go clogging up the global namespace :P |
| 16:35.01 | Wobin_ | put a local in front of the function |
| 16:35.07 | Wobin_ | local function womble() |
| 16:35.12 | Neronix | ok, thanks |
| 16:37.39 | Neronix | yay, first mod now ready for testing! |
| 16:42.56 | ag` | copytable works fine. I just need to learn to play. |
| 16:45.30 | Neronix | Oh god I'm an idiot >.< |
| 16:45.40 | Neronix | forgot to add files to the toc |
| 16:46.00 | Neronix | no wonder it A) Didn't work and B) Was the smallest addon I had loaded |
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| 16:58.51 | phyber | if it's small and efficient, release it! someone will hack it if it doesn't work ;) |
| 16:59.36 | Neronix | Of course I'll relase it! |
| 16:59.41 | Neronix | I just want it working first XD |
| 16:59.50 | Neronix | and I don't know why it won't |
| 17:00.20 | Neronix | I'll stick it on the pastebin and see what people think |
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| 17:09.32 | Wobin_ | I hate spontaneously fixed bugs |
| 17:10.28 | [MoonWolf] | no those are fun and good |
| 17:10.53 | Neronix`afk | will deal with it later >.> |
| 17:15.59 | oxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.00 | oxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.52 | oxman | hum |
| 17:25.58 | oxman | how i can move the UIParent frame ? |
| 17:26.21 | oxman | UIParent:ClearAllPoints() |
| 17:26.22 | oxman | UIParent:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", "CleanUIFrame", 100, 100) |
| 17:26.24 | oxman | don't work |
| 17:27.01 | oxman | UIParent:SetWidth(10) |
| 17:27.03 | oxman | don't work |
| 17:27.50 | Wobin_ | Is UIParent a really movable frame? |
| 17:28.01 | otravi | I hope not |
| 17:28.13 | oxman | ;/ |
| 17:28.14 | Wobin_ | Since it's like... the top one? |
| 17:28.17 | oxman | i hope yes ;D |
| 17:28.19 | otravi | Why would you move it? |
| 17:28.35 | Wobin_ | You can change the WorldFrame if you want a viewport change |
| 17:29.28 | oxman | i want make a alt-z mode but with chat |
| 17:29.52 | Tem|AFK | then unparent Chat from UIParent |
| 17:29.54 | oxman | hum |
| 17:29.56 | oxman | :Hide() it's ok |
| 17:29.56 | oxman | :D |
| 17:30.06 | Tem|AFK | so when you hide UIParent chat is still here |
| 17:30.07 | Tem|AFK | therE* |
| 17:30.10 | Tem|AFK | there** |
| 17:30.12 | oxman | yep it's ok Tem|AFK ;D |
| 17:30.27 | oxman | UIOptionsFrame:SetParent("CleanUIFrame") |
| 17:30.27 | oxman | CharacterFrame:SetParent("CleanUIFrame") |
| 17:30.27 | oxman | QuestFrame:SetParent("CleanUIFrame") |
| 17:30.28 | oxman | ChatFrameEditBox:SetParent("CleanUIFrame") |
| 17:30.28 | oxman | ;D |
| 17:32.17 | oxman | it's soon good :D |
| 17:33.55 | oxman | hum TalentFrame.xml is nil here |
| 17:33.57 | oxman | and your ? |
| 17:36.12 | otravi | I think it's LoadOnDemand |
| 17:36.14 | oxman | hum what's gossip frame ? |
| 17:36.23 | oxman | hum ok true, thanks |
| 17:36.38 | cladhaire | Tem: Its looking.. better but not so good |
| 17:36.46 | cladhaire | I'll have to change the self.Hooks interface it seems |
| 17:37.07 | Tem | cladhaire: how much will that break? |
| 17:37.20 | Tem | oh yay. Embeded |
| 17:37.26 | Tem | you don't care how much it breaks |
| 17:37.48 | cladhaire | In theory yeah |
| 17:37.53 | cladhaire | i can give you a custom one for you |
| 17:37.59 | cladhaire | but i could also just write a non-library that's still safe for you |
| 17:38.03 | cladhaire | with close to no impact., |
| 17:41.01 | [MoonWolf] | all of this yust goes to show, its not the size that matters, its how you use it. |
| 17:43.01 | Neronix | Hmm |
| 17:44.06 | Neronix | See if I specift <Script file="hypothetical.lua"/> in the xml, do I need to specify hypothetical.lua in the toc? |
| 17:47.21 | cladhaire | Tem: I can write you up a safe hooking solution if you'd like.. not embedded.. just straight Catalyst code |
| 17:47.26 | cladhaire | Or if you don't care that okay. |
| 17:48.05 | otravi | Neronix: it will load twice if I do (I think) |
| 17:48.12 | Tem | I'd rearlly like to have safe hooks back in there |
| 17:48.14 | Neronix | I see, thanks |
| 17:48.37 | Tem | even though the only way I can see it being a problem is if some moron user installs both Catalyst and nFLT |
| 17:48.41 | cladhaire | Tem: There are some things I'm going to try to fix, but there's no way to prevent getting roughly 2Mb of crap when you do it.. based solely on the closures. |
| 17:49.03 | cladhaire | Tho it did expose some issues the library has |
| 17:49.26 | Tem | can't you use the same closure for each? |
| 17:49.37 | Tem | (in my special case that is) |
| 17:49.40 | cladhaire | yes |
| 17:49.45 | cladhaire | but i can't code that in the genral case |
| 17:49.48 | cladhaire | where's your most recent code |
| 17:49.51 | cladhaire | I'll whip it up really quick |
| 17:50.05 | Tem | http://svn.wowace.com/Tem/trunk/Catalyst |
| 17:50.09 | cladhaire | brb |
| 17:51.32 | Tem | cladhaire: I think you can still have a general case fix |
| 17:51.53 | Tem | I haven't thought it all the way through yet, so don't count on it |
| 17:55.19 | cladhaire | Tem: Right now, a closure is generated for every single hook. |
| 17:55.32 | cladhaire | Tem: Don't really have a way to get around that |
| 17:55.35 | cladhaire | but i'm thinking abou it. |
| 17:55.44 | Tem | the more I think about it, I keep hitting walls |
| 17:56.13 | Tem | I figure a way around the extra closures and then something gets in the way |
| 17:57.08 | cladhaire | http://ace.pastebin.com/659961 |
| 17:57.14 | cladhaire | just a few small checks |
| 17:59.23 | Mikma | ooh 1.0.5 catalyst :) |
| 18:00.46 | Tem | I've already released 1.0.5 |
| 18:00.56 | Tem | what cladhaire helps me to change will 1.1 |
| 18:01.09 | cladhaire | Tem: I verified that everything unhooked. |
| 18:01.14 | Tem | awesome |
| 18:01.20 | cladhaire | Tem: Let me make sure something doesn't unhook if it gets hooked =) |
| 18:01.22 | cladhaire | hold please =) |
| 18:01.22 | Mikma | yeah i looked the .lua and noticed the v-number |
| 18:01.31 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 18:01.34 | cladhaire | there's a change i need to make |
| 18:01.35 | cladhaire | brb |
| 18:03.17 | Mikma | i'm not whining, but tekkub has wrong filename on FuBar NammeToggle, or wrong foldername |
| 18:05.04 | cladhaire | Tem: This should be good: |
| 18:05.04 | cladhaire | http://ace.pastebin.com/659978 |
| 18:05.13 | cladhaire | There's a line labelled "ZOMG WTF REMOVE THIS CODE" |
| 18:05.17 | cladhaire | remove that line when you'r edone testing =) |
| 18:05.37 | Tem | lol clad |
| 18:05.54 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 18:06.03 | Mikma | :D |
| 18:06.05 | cladhaire | otherwise people's playerframes will do bad things |
| 18:06.09 | cladhaire | like say "Hahah PFOnEvent") |
| 18:06.12 | cladhaire | instead of doing anything |
| 18:06.34 | Tem | haha |
| 18:09.25 | cladhaire | Tem: If you get any idea how to fix the issues with AceHook in the general case, let me know. |
| 18:09.31 | cladhaire | I moved from using a table PER hook |
| 18:09.36 | cladhaire | to using a table per namespace |
| 18:09.39 | Tem | k |
| 18:09.42 | cladhaire | which cut the garbage in half |
| 18:09.44 | Tem | that was my main suggestsion |
| 18:09.47 | cladhaire | but |
| 18:09.50 | cladhaire | it makes things very nasty |
| 18:09.55 | Tem | aye |
| 18:09.56 | cladhaire | and self.Hooks won't work.. unless I make it a _call |
| 18:10.01 | cladhaire | AND I had to key everything |
| 18:10.07 | Tem | hmm |
| 18:10.17 | Tem | it might not be something that's worth optimizing for |
| 18:10.19 | cladhaire | _func[self][tostring(self)..method] |
| 18:10.42 | cladhaire | which was kinda nasty.. but not as robust |
| 18:10.43 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 18:10.46 | cladhaire | there's some shit I can definitely clean up |
| 18:10.50 | cladhaire | that doesn't need to be stored. |
| 18:11.00 | cladhaire | but sadly, its not whats causing the problems.. the custom closures are. |
| 18:11.15 | cladhaire | and unless i add an extra function call wrapper, can't get rid of them |
| 18:11.31 | Tem | Hook Time: 0.011 sec |
| 18:11.35 | Tem | Unhook Time: 0.002 sec |
| 18:11.37 | oxman | anyone know whats the "ContainerFrame" ? |
| 18:11.52 | Tem | Zone Time: 1.002 sec |
| 18:12.02 | Tem | oxman: that's kael's fault |
| 18:12.20 | Tem | oh oh, you mean the ContainerFrame in the default ui? |
| 18:12.47 | cladhaire | ... |
| 18:12.49 | cladhaire | lol |
| 18:12.55 | oxman | yep |
| 18:12.56 | oxman | i mean that |
| 18:12.56 | oxman | :D |
| 18:13.11 | oxman | i still on my alt-z mode ;) |
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| 18:13.51 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 18:13.59 | cladhaire | o hai tem |
| 18:14.05 | cladhaire | were those times good.. or bad? |
| 18:14.05 | Tem | hey wait a sec clad |
| 18:14.10 | Tem | those were good |
| 18:14.30 | Tem | that instance portal used to cause me to disconnect because it took me too long to zone |
| 18:14.31 | cladhaire | k =) |
| 18:14.31 | oxman | i have a problem when i change the parent ;p |
| 18:14.40 | Tem | and now it's like 2 second zone |
| 18:14.46 | cladhaire | yay |
| 18:14.49 | kergoth` | ~friday |
| 18:14.50 | purl | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 18:14.50 | oxman | the content of window (like talent window) is outside of the window |
| 18:14.59 | kergoth` | so true |
| 18:15.00 | kergoth` | ~thanks |
| 18:15.00 | purl | kergoth`: gern geschehen |
| 18:15.21 | Tem | but I'm not confident of your logic in the handler |
| 18:15.25 | cladhaire | k |
| 18:15.32 | cladhaire | i might not be either =) |
| 18:15.46 | cladhaire | it should be right |
| 18:15.55 | cladhaire | if we're not an inactive hook.. do the custom code, else call original |
| 18:16.03 | cladhaire | which will let blacklist events througj =) |
| 18:16.07 | Tem | oh alright, I see it |
| 18:16.22 | cladhaire | actually no, thats' righ t=) |
| 18:16.23 | Tem | what was confusing me was the 2 if statements |
| 18:16.54 | cladhaire | aye |
| 18:17.02 | cladhaire | we code a little differently =) |
| 18:17.06 | cladhaire | and iw as using double negatives =) |
| 18:17.08 | Neronix | Do I do ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Mooo!") to print something to the chat box? |
| 18:17.26 | cladhaire | Neronix: You certainly can.. if ace is installed you can use ace:print() As well |
| 18:17.48 | Neronix | Can I use ace:print without my addon being aced? |
| 18:17.52 | cladhaire | correct =) |
| 18:17.55 | cladhaire | as long as you HAVE ace |
| 18:17.57 | Neronix | ok, thanks |
| 18:18.12 | Tem | I wouldn't count on the user having Ace unless you require ace |
| 18:18.21 | Neronix | It's just for debug |
| 18:18.22 | cladhaire | Tem: Yeah, I meant if it was a local debug thing |
| 18:18.27 | Tem | right |
| 18:18.30 | Tem | I use that all the time |
| 18:18.39 | cladhaire | Tem/Kergoth: I'm working on an AceDebug that provides the current :Debug() format message, as well as a custom :Error() that dumps the stack trace as well, instead of using error() |
| 18:18.50 | Tem | oh yay |
| 18:19.13 | cladhaire | using AceLibStub (will be renamed to AceLibrary prior to release) |
| 18:19.22 | kergoth` | excellent |
| 18:19.25 | cladhaire | And instead of making a new class easy time, it uses :Embed() inheritance |
| 18:19.40 | cladhaire | Can I use exit() in wow to simulate the error stop? |
| 18:19.46 | cladhaire | i haven't tested. |
| 18:19.58 | kergoth` | error stop? |
| 18:20.07 | cladhaire | when you call error() code execution stops |
| 18:20.17 | cladhaire | I need to do that in :Error() |
| 18:20.24 | cladhaire | on that path i mean |
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| 18:21.27 | cladhaire | no exit.. hrm |
| 18:21.29 | cladhaire | any thoughts? |
| 18:21.32 | kergoth` | ah, but without calling error? i dunno if you can do that. in lua 5.1, calling error with a nil value is allowed, to have it not display anything |
| 18:21.38 | kergoth` | but i dont know if theres any such thing in 5.0 |
| 18:21.51 | cladhaire | no we can't do that. |
| 18:21.55 | cladhaire | error expects in 5.0 |
| 18:21.57 | cladhaire | damn |
| 18:22.00 | kergoth` | :\ |
| 18:22.01 | cladhaire | that fubar's everything |
| 18:22.17 | Tem | why do you need error? |
| 18:22.28 | kergoth` | i like that 5.1 feature, a little thing, but its cool. you can pass anything in error now, not just strings. could facilitate some cool try/except simulation that way |
| 18:22.34 | cladhaire | I suppose I can make usage self:Error("Message") return |
| 18:23.03 | Tem | no, no, no |
| 18:23.06 | Tem | just pass an empty string |
| 18:23.41 | cladhaire | but it tacks it onto my debug messages |
| 18:23.43 | cladhaire | which isn't sexy |
| 18:23.52 | Tem | I don't understand what you want |
| 18:24.17 | kergoth` | he wants to have full control over the error output, but still halt code execution in that path the way error() does |
| 18:24.52 | cladhaire | Correct |
| 18:24.53 | cladhaire | =) |
| 18:24.58 | kergoth` | cladhaire: exit() is normally in os. i take it theres no os table in wow? |
| 18:25.02 | kergoth` | heh |
| 18:25.04 | cladhaire | since error() doesn't give the stack trace in wow. |
| 18:25.07 | cladhaire | kergoth: Correct =) |
| 18:25.51 | Tem | cladhaire: then use error to get the first part of the stack trace |
| 18:26.09 | cladhaire | Tem: It's colored output, prefixed with the addons name |
| 18:26.18 | Tem | well... |
| 18:26.40 | Tem | I dunno then |
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| 18:26.53 | cladhaire | i dont see why making the usage :Error() return is so bad |
| 18:26.54 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 18:26.56 | cladhaire | since its optional |
| 18:27.03 | Tem | yeah, that seems ok |
| 18:27.09 | Tem | just kinda hackish |
| 18:27.23 | cladhaire | I think the other way is more hackish =) |
| 18:27.44 | cladhaire | Essentially I want this error to pop up a non bgsack/non popup error message |
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| 18:32.07 | Neronix | right, I'm confused |
| 18:32.11 | cladhaire | k |
| 18:42.58 | Neronix | http://ace.pastebin.com/660071 |
| 18:43.09 | Neronix | So what's happening is... |
| 18:43.27 | Neronix | It does indeed load, but I don't get the debug messages in chat |
| 18:43.49 | Neronix | doing /script AHProtectWin_OnLoad() does it |
| 18:44.25 | Neronix | also, AHProtectWin_ProtectAuctionFrame() doesn't get called when I talk to an auctioneer npc |
| 18:45.04 | Neronix | doing /script AHProtectWin_ProtectAuctionFrame() with the window open only takes me as far as the "AuctionFrame found! continuing..." debug message |
| 18:45.27 | Neronix | no idea why stuff's not being called and why the main function goes nowhere >.< |
| 18:51.09 | Neronix | No ideas? |
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| 18:52.58 | [MoonWolf] | there is a why use ace post on the forums |
| 18:53.03 | [MoonWolf] | i wrote this reply |
| 18:53.04 | [MoonWolf] | do you agree with it ? |
| 18:53.09 | [MoonWolf] | http://ace.pastebin.com/660099 |
| 18:54.25 | [MoonWolf] | cladhaire, Tem, kergoth ? anybody ? |
| 18:54.28 | Neronix | Great answer |
| 18:54.31 | otravi | hmmm |
| 18:54.37 | otravi | load average: 12.80, 6.51, 4.29 |
| 18:54.46 | otravi | That can't be good |
| 18:55.40 | cladhaire | sounds good mony |
| 18:56.42 | Tem | gimme a sec [MoonWolf] |
| 18:56.46 | [MoonWolf] | to late |
| 18:56.47 | [MoonWolf] | submitted |
| 18:56.51 | Tem | I find the middle section could be more diplomatic |
| 18:56.55 | [MoonWolf] | "edit it if you want" |
| 18:57.08 | Tem | k, I will |
| 18:57.43 | kergoth` | Tem: do you want to take on the acedb and profile libraries/modules for ace 2.0, or should i? |
| 18:57.49 | Tem | yes |
| 18:57.50 | Tem | I do |
| 18:57.54 | kergoth` | okay, cool |
| 18:59.13 | cladhaire | kergoth: I've never heard of lazysort before |
| 18:59.34 | kergoth` | its a rici thing |
| 18:59.35 | oxman | you know why when i change the parent of talent frame the content exceed the windows ? |
| 18:59.41 | oxman | like without scrollbar |
| 18:59.58 | kergoth` | he started fromt eh premise that a quick sort is essentially a binary tree, adn ran with it |
| 19:00.04 | kergoth` | makign it only sort whats needed |
| 19:00.06 | kergoth` | pretty cool |
| 19:00.11 | cladhaire | yeah, definitely |
| 19:01.03 | cladhaire | i dojnt think many people had |
| 19:01.14 | cladhaire | s/had/do/ |
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| 19:04.21 | Tem | [MoonWolf]: I edited your post |
| 19:05.02 | Tem | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1336.msg21840#msg21840 |
| 19:08.11 | Neronix | right, enter desperate measure |
| 19:08.22 | Neronix | rewrite the damn main function >.> |
| 19:14.34 | hC|school | ha tem |
| 19:14.39 | hC|school | I read the Catalyst posts |
| 19:15.02 | hC|school | and you thought it was just gonna be a simple quick-fix |
| 19:23.13 | Tem|AFK | hC|school: ? |
| 19:23.21 | Tem|AFK | which posts? |
| 19:23.33 | Tem|AFK | the comments I replied to this morning that put me in a bad mood? |
| 19:25.54 | clad|afk | Tem: Your reponses were hilarioud =) |
| 19:25.59 | clad|afk | s/oud/ous/ |
| 19:26.04 | Tem|AFK | hah |
| 19:26.40 | Tem|AFK | My favorite is "Any issues you have with Catalyst while running nFLT at the same time are your problem. I warned you that they won't play nice together." |
| 19:27.12 | clad|afk | i agree =) |
| 19:27.18 | clad|afk | BUT BUT |
| 19:27.24 | clad|afk | why dot you work togethe and make one addon |
| 19:27.26 | clad|afk | ... |
| 19:27.30 | clad|afk | "Why.. mine's the best" |
| 19:27.41 | clad|afk | especially with the new hook methods =) |
| 19:27.50 | clad|afk | sorry AceHook is teh broken for you =( |
| 19:29.17 | Tem|AFK | meh |
| 19:29.24 | Tem|AFK | it wasn't meant to handle that kind of load |
| 19:29.29 | Tem|AFK | oh |
| 19:29.30 | Tem|AFK | my |
| 19:29.31 | Tem|AFK | god |
| 19:29.33 | clad|afk | ? |
| 19:29.44 | Tem|AFK | have you looked in WT_ZTF lately? |
| 19:29.51 | clad|afk | lol |
| 19:29.51 | clad|afk | no |
| 19:30.11 | Tem|AFK | lemme paste just a bit of what he does on EVERY EVENT |
| 19:30.15 | clad|afk | hahaha |
| 19:30.15 | clad|afk | ok |
| 19:30.39 | Tem|AFK | for suppressedEvent, _ in WT_ZoningTimeFix.SuppressedEvents do |
| 19:30.39 | Tem|AFK | if (event == suppressedEvent) and this:GetName() then |
| 19:30.39 | Tem|AFK | if WT_ZoningTimeFix.CapturedFrames[this:GetName()] then |
| 19:30.46 | Tem|AFK | HE FUCKING LOOPS |
| 19:30.48 | clad|afk | ZOMG |
| 19:30.50 | Tem|AFK | IN EACH EVENT |
| 19:30.54 | clad|afk | *vomit* |
| 19:30.58 | hC|school | holy crap |
| 19:31.13 | Tem|AFK | not only that, he creates a new closure for every frame |
| 19:31.16 | hC|school | my god |
| 19:31.20 | hC|school | I'm not even that bad |
| 19:31.40 | otravi | poor people using that one |
| 19:31.44 | Tem|AFK | no kidding |
| 19:32.00 | clad|afk | but but but i see a 0.02% decrease in load times when i use them togther |
| 19:32.03 | hyperChipmunk | btw, I agree...you all should hug and work together to make one zoning add on that is the best of all of them!!!!!<3bunniesandkittens<3<3!! |
| 19:32.12 | Tem|AFK | go die |
| 19:32.16 | Tem|AFK | go die in a corner |
| 19:32.20 | Tem|AFK | just... die |
| 19:32.30 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 19:32.57 | Tem|AFK | I'm tempted to include a new module in Catalyst |
| 19:33.06 | Tem|AFK | one tailored per-frame |
| 19:33.14 | Tem|AFK | so I can unregister the events |
| 19:33.26 | hyperChipmunk | you need a module that cuts off the other ones |
| 19:33.32 | Tem|AFK | haha! |
| 19:34.15 | Tem|AFK | Enable() if(IsAddOnLoaded("WT_ZoningTimeFix") then DisableAddOn("WT_ZoningTimeFix") ReloadUI() end |
| 19:35.17 | otravi | haha |
| 19:35.28 | Tem|AFK | seriously, though, I'm tempted to include a much cleaner implementation of what his original functionality was |
| 19:36.41 | hyperChipmunk | why? |
| 19:36.55 | hyperChipmunk | you should consult with him over cookies and milk, I think |
| 19:36.57 | clad|afk | lol i ask the same.. why? |
| 19:37.25 | Tem|AFK | to show everyone just how shitty his implementation is |
| 19:37.44 | hyperChipmunk | nobody's gonna notice |
| 19:37.50 | clad|afk | but the people who would look/already notice.. are in this channel =) |
| 19:37.55 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 19:38.03 | hyperChipmunk | anyone who understands it won't be affected |
| 19:38.05 | Tem|AFK | the sheer abomination that nLTF was is the reason I wrote Catalyst in the first place |
| 19:38.13 | clad|afk | hehe |
| 19:38.26 | Tem|AFK | Actually, did you see Tigerheart's post about Catalyst? |
| 19:38.31 | clad|afk | no |
| 19:38.33 | Neronix | nope |
| 19:38.58 | Neronix | on what site? |
| 19:39.03 | Tem|AFK | it was something like "... All that and such tiny code" |
| 19:39.10 | Tem|AFK | it was on the Blizzard UI forum |
| 19:39.14 | clad|afk | lol |
| 19:39.48 | Tem|AFK | so, /someone/ out there got it |
| 19:40.11 | hyperChipmunk | i bet more than you realize |
| 19:40.15 | hyperChipmunk | they're all the ones not posting |
| 19:40.38 | hyperChipmunk | cuz they don't have the time between zones to do it =) |
| 19:41.03 | hyperChipmunk | you put a .project in that file now |
| 19:41.11 | hyperChipmunk | you're gonna get more complaints |
| 19:41.25 | clad|afk | what is the .project file.. an IDE thing? |
| 19:41.26 | hyperChipmunk | OMGZ WHAT IS THIS .project FILE is it a virus? |
| 19:41.34 | hyperChipmunk | I assume so |
| 19:41.53 | hyperChipmunk | either that or it's a virus |
| 19:42.00 | Tain | It's an IDE virus. |
| 19:42.03 | hyperChipmunk | probably a virus |
| 19:42.06 | Tain | It eats your harddrives. |
| 19:42.08 | clad|afk | TEM IS TEH VIRUSING US |
| 19:42.16 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 19:42.29 | Tem|AFK | it's an eclipse project file |
| 19:42.33 | Tem|AFK | deal with it |
| 19:42.33 | clad|afk | actually tardmrr in this case |
| 19:42.49 | clad|afk | ZOMG WHY CANT YOU JUST PACKAGE YOUR SVN AND BE NICE TO US VIRUS-MAN |
| 19:42.51 | hyperChipmunk | OMGZ HE IS OPEN SOURCE HAXOR |
| 19:43.08 | Tem|AFK | oh shit |
| 19:43.14 | Tem|AFK | it's quarter to 3 |
| 19:43.21 | clad|afk | bye |
| 19:44.09 | Neronix | ugh, I need a better name than AHProtectWin |
| 19:44.16 | clad|afk | whats it do? |
| 19:44.24 | hyperChipmunk | it protects the ah win I bet |
| 19:44.41 | Neronix | Stops the AH window from being accidentally closed by the spellbook, quest log, etc |
| 19:44.52 | clad|afk | aah |
| 19:44.57 | Neronix | simply some code from auctioneer made standalone |
| 19:45.02 | clad|afk | *nod* |
| 19:45.09 | Neronix | thought it'd be something nice and easy for my first addon |
| 19:45.16 | Neronix | I thought wrong >.> |
| 19:46.47 | Neronix | Best name I can come up with is AHWinProtect |
| 19:47.06 | Tain | I restructured Visor today to be just a few files instead of 11 sub-"modules" |
| 19:47.07 | Neronix | AuctionProtect is good too, but people will think it's some auction-sniper-hax or something :S |
| 19:47.35 | hyperChipmunk | heh...when gmail notifies you on a new account creation about being able to save purchase history, and gives you the option to turn it on or off, the submit button says "Sweet! Go to my inbox >>" |
| 19:47.50 | hyperChipmunk | ! tain |
| 19:48.28 | Neronix | Will you still be able to stop unneeded visor modules from loading? |
| 19:49.17 | Neronix | I only use it to scale down and move my action bar |
| 19:49.27 | Tain | Nope, but most of what's in there as "modules" are really a couple of lines of code. The EditBox and VisorButtons are already separate modules. |
| 19:49.29 | Neronix | no need for reparenting, alpha and all that stuff |
| 19:49.54 | Tain | I didn't actually commit it as a definite version yet, but I'm contemplating it. |
| 19:49.55 | Neronix | I see... that's ok then :) |
| 19:50.22 | Tain | According to Warmup my Visor loadtime was halved. |
| 19:51.45 | Tain | That's really why I did it, being out in modules is good for some things, but ineffecient in the way it loads up. |
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| 19:57.18 | Neriak | hi there |
| 19:57.28 | otravi | hello there |
| 19:57.37 | Mikma | rofl, when i use /ace profile class aceheal i get a SortEnchant error :D |
| 19:57.44 | hyperChipmunk | well commit it as something else |
| 19:58.04 | hyperChipmunk | Tain: call it sombrero or something |
| 19:58.54 | Neriak | Is anybody here working with level 2 menu entries in FuBar? I've got issues. |
| 19:59.54 | Neronix | hey Neriak |
| 20:00.01 | Neriak | hi |
| 20:02.08 | Neriak | what's worng with the menu code here ? http://ace.pastebin.com/660213 |
| 20:02.35 | Neriak | the second level menu doesn't get displayed, instead i get a broken tooltip frame ... damn |
| 20:05.46 | Neronix | YAY! |
| 20:06.03 | Neronix | Got the main function working! |
| 20:06.14 | Neronix | now I need to figure out why it's not doing it's OnLoad and OnEvent stuff >.> |
| 20:06.15 | Mikma | _o_ \o/ _o_ |
| 20:14.57 | Neronix | hmm, interesting |
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| 20:16.09 | Neronix | No wonder the XML did fuck all - I forgot the </Ui> XD |
| 20:17.45 | Neronix | Yay, everything works :D |
| 20:19.46 | hyperChipmunk | heyo boss |
| 20:21.06 | hyperChipmunk | just got in myself; anything I should know before I go back to work on GloryLib? |
| 20:21.28 | Neriak | lo boss |
| 20:21.54 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 20:21.59 | Neronix | ckknight = Boss? |
| 20:22.06 | ckknight | yep |
| 20:22.11 | Neronix | I see :) |
| 20:22.22 | ckknight | I am Omnipotus, devourer of worlds! |
| 20:22.27 | hyperChipmunk | him too |
| 20:22.49 | hyperChipmunk | Omnipotus: do you have a standalone repo for GloryLib? |
| 20:22.54 | ckknight | not yet |
| 20:22.58 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 20:23.01 | ckknight | haven't committed anything |
| 20:23.03 | hyperChipmunk | explains why I can't find it =) |
| 20:23.09 | ckknight | when you feel you have something to send me, just email it to me |
| 20:23.12 | ckknight | then I'll set up a repo |
| 20:23.41 | hyperChipmunk | alright; windows have a patch(1) program? |
| 20:23.55 | Mikma | so i had to turn back to monkeyquest, since i need the feature to paste quest-status on chat :P |
| 20:25.46 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, I dunno |
| 20:26.00 | ckknight | I think it's like ctrl-click for QuestFu |
| 20:26.02 | ckknight | or something |
| 20:26.14 | ckknight | just file a feature request with Kemayo |
| 20:26.43 | Mikma | ckknight: i added feature request to his wowi portal in comments or so |
| 20:26.56 | ckknight | does he not have a portal? |
| 20:27.14 | Neronix | Hah, Penny Arcade delivers, as usual - http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic |
| 20:27.28 | Mikma | hmm, that's right he didn't hava a portal, true |
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| 20:29.56 | Neriak | What's that all about compostlib ? I don't get the usage *boggle* |
| 20:30.06 | Eraphine|Lab | Tain are you about? |
| 20:30.34 | Tain | Half-about |
| 20:30.40 | Eraphine|Lab | Small question about visorbuttons |
| 20:30.46 | Eraphine|Lab | or maybe it's just ui-mechanics in general |
| 20:31.00 | Eraphine|Lab | I think some combination of reparting the button results in cooldowns not being updated |
| 20:31.32 | Eraphine|Lab | Like, I'm reparenting some buttons to my target frame, so that they only show up when that frame is shown. |
| 20:33.56 | Tain | What happens with the cooldowns? |
| 20:34.56 | Eraphine|Lab | they don't show up anymore |
| 20:35.24 | Eraphine|Lab | I can move the buttons all I want, but if I reparent them, they don't get cooldowns |
| 20:35.39 | Eraphine|Lab | do I need to reassociate the actionbutton script with them? |
| 20:36.40 | Eraphine|Lab | btw, I started using Tuller's Omni Cooldown |
| 20:36.41 | ckknight | CompostLib is awesome |
| 20:36.48 | Eraphine|Lab | that's what led to this |
| 20:37.05 | Eraphine|Lab | with cooldowncount (sarf's version) you had a frame overlay for every button |
| 20:37.17 | Eraphine|Lab | the omni cooldown just greats fontstrings when there is a cooldown present |
| 20:37.24 | Eraphine|Lab | it hooks the cooldowntimeupdate function |
| 20:37.30 | Eraphine|Lab | greats=creats |
| 20:38.27 | Tain | Yeah most I've seen create an overlay. |
| 20:38.50 | Eraphine|Lab | well - the difference is 2mb vs 18kb. |
| 20:39.00 | Eraphine|Lab | since - you don't have to create frames at all |
| 20:39.04 | Tain | I don't see why reparenting would do that though. I'm trying to think throughi t. |
| 20:39.19 | Tain | Yeah, that's why I don't run of them. :) |
| 20:39.29 | Eraphine|Lab | you should look at omni cooldown count then. |
| 20:39.59 | Tain | I mean I have buttons parented to each other as well as UIParent and I haven't seen anything odd. |
| 20:40.08 | Tain | But I haven't done any parenting other than those two cases. |
| 20:40.34 | Eraphine|Lab | what happens if you parent something to a frame that has it's own scripts |
| 20:40.38 | Eraphine|Lab | do those scripts get inherited ? |
| 20:41.19 | Tain | No, scripts don't get inhereted. |
| 20:41.41 | [MoonWolf] | Tem|AFK, nice changes. |
| 20:43.17 | Neronix | Is Cladhaire the only person I can ask for a place in the SVN? |
| 20:45.50 | [MoonWolf] | for now at least, yep. |
| 20:45.58 | hyperChipmunk | you can ask anyone |
| 20:46.12 | hyperChipmunk | clad's the only one from whom you'll get anything resembling results, though |
| 20:50.13 | Neronix | I see, thanks |
| 20:53.41 | Tain | I recreated it here as well Eraphine |
| 20:54.54 | HoJ|Slayman | good evening gents ! |
| 20:55.07 | HoJ|Slayman | and madams ... |
| 20:55.30 | [MoonWolf] | good night people |
| 20:55.33 | [MoonWolf] | bed for me. |
| 20:55.44 | hyperChipmunk | Omnipotus: I've put my progress on GloryLib up in the BatFu svn; I'll update it there, so you can take a look at it whenever |
| 20:55.46 | HoJ|Slayman | sleep well and have some decent dreams ... |
| 20:56.04 | HoJ|Slayman | heya HyperChip ... |
| 20:56.04 | hyperChipmunk | eyo |
| 20:56.31 | Eraphine|Lab | what did you recreate - the no cooldown observation? |
| 20:56.35 | HoJ|Slayman | I'm really glad i could help with BG Fu as I'm starting to love it more and more |
| 20:56.51 | hyperChipmunk | oh, you use it? =D |
| 20:57.06 | hyperChipmunk | which one were you again? |
| 20:57.24 | HoJ|Slayman | yeah i reported that bug with one side zero ppl u remember ^^ |
| 20:57.31 | hyperChipmunk | oh right |
| 20:57.54 | Tain | As soon as I reparent to certain things the cooldown doesn't update |
| 20:58.01 | Tain | But not everything. |
| 20:58.04 | hyperChipmunk | was that the reason? I'm still working on fixing that; got some restructuring, and I figure I'll just change it as it gets migrated |
| 20:58.07 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, link? |
| 20:58.43 | HoJ|Slayman | yeah it definitely is as long as I'm not opening the single side "who is on the bg" i counts correctly |
| 20:58.52 | hyperChipmunk | should be, um, http;//svn.wowace.com/hc/FuBar_BattlegroundFu/GloryLib.lua |
| 20:58.57 | hyperChipmunk | er |
| 20:59.09 | HoJ|Slayman | http: ... |
| 20:59.16 | hyperChipmunk | s/;/:/ |
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| 20:59.59 | HoJ|Slayman | a perl substitute ... sweet |
| 21:00.06 | hyperChipmunk | http://svn.wowace.com/hc/FuBar_BattlegroundFu/GloryLib.lua |
| 21:00.27 | hyperChipmunk | I guess that's not it though |
| 21:00.55 | hyperChipmunk | oh cuz i suck |
| 21:01.00 | hyperChipmunk | http://svn.wowace.com/hc/trunk/FuBar_BattlegroundFu/GloryLib.lua |
| 21:01.22 | hyperChipmunk | third time's the charm =) |
| 21:01.29 | ckknight | alright |
| 21:01.48 | ckknight | just so you know, I may change your API |
| 21:02.04 | ckknight | but you got it so BatFu does no processing now? |
| 21:02.31 | hyperChipmunk | oh no |
| 21:02.33 | hyperChipmunk | not yet =) |
| 21:02.38 | ckknight | blah |
| 21:02.54 | hyperChipmunk | I've got two major chunks so far |
| 21:03.35 | hyperChipmunk | but since I put it up there, i figured I ought to let you know, in case you start doing things to your GloryLib or something |
| 21:03.39 | hyperChipmunk | just to keep us on the same page |
| 21:04.39 | ckknight | so you're not quite done yet? |
| 21:04.42 | hyperChipmunk | should I keep my battlefield model in BatFu, or export that as well? |
| 21:04.54 | ckknight | I don't know what you mean by that |
| 21:05.14 | hyperChipmunk | my table that I query for the display |
| 21:05.26 | ckknight | what does it do? |
| 21:06.00 | hyperChipmunk | like, it keeps who's currently defending a particular node, when it was attacked (for timers), if it's in-conflict |
| 21:06.11 | ckknight | oh yea, that should go in GloryLib |
| 21:06.13 | ckknight | definitely |
| 21:07.01 | hyperChipmunk | so i can do BattlefieldObjectives["gold mine"].time and compare it to current time for the timer, for instance |
| 21:07.04 | ckknight | I'd like it if you could get it done as soon as you can, I want to clean it up and release and such |
| 21:07.05 | hyperChipmunk | okay |
| 21:07.09 | hyperChipmunk | I'm goin, man |
| 21:07.11 | hyperChipmunk | it's a lot of stuff |
| 21:07.17 | hyperChipmunk | I have a life, you know! |
| 21:07.22 | hyperChipmunk | ok, I don't |
| 21:07.27 | hyperChipmunk | but I pretend I do |
| 21:07.32 | Neronix | heh |
| 21:07.35 | otravi | good for you! :D |
| 21:08.08 | hyperChipmunk | I'll work doubletime on it tonight |
| 21:08.37 | ckknight | hooray |
| 21:09.09 | hyperChipmunk | what kind of values do we want queued battlefields to return |
| 21:09.22 | hyperChipmunk | its index value or the name itself |
| 21:09.26 | hyperChipmunk | oh, n/m i'll do both |
| 21:10.13 | ckknight | once this is done, it should be very nice |
| 21:10.49 | *** join/#wowace kergoth` (n=14899232@65.98.40.42) |
| 21:10.57 | HoJ|Slayman | ... why is my fubar rearranging itself over and over on joining the game? it annoys me! |
| 21:11.09 | hyperChipmunk | except for the fact I am suck |
| 21:17.55 | hyperChipmunk | Omnipotus: is there a need for the babble= to be below the localization strings? =x |
| 21:20.56 | FryGuy | is there any way to find out what mod is causing high increases in memory? |
| 21:21.39 | hyperChipmunk | turn off half of them, see if it's still there |
| 21:21.44 | hyperChipmunk | if so, turn off half of those |
| 21:21.46 | FryGuy | heh |
| 21:21.48 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.49 | FryGuy | other than that :p |
| 21:22.15 | hyperChipmunk | pfft, by the time you find out, you could be done already =p |
| 21:22.19 | FryGuy | well |
| 21:22.22 | FryGuy | it's only in raids |
| 21:22.25 | FryGuy | in combat |
| 21:22.28 | FryGuy | so.. ya :( |
| 21:22.40 | hyperChipmunk | well fine then |
| 21:22.47 | hyperChipmunk | >8p |
| 21:24.57 | HoJ|Slayman | the latest decursive is buggy as it generates disgusting high amounts of memory while in raid, if u spam it ur game will stop for multiple seconds |
| 21:25.35 | HoJ|Slayman | which will assist on memory increase while raiding FryGuy |
| 21:25.49 | FryGuy | hmm |
| 21:26.13 | FryGuy | well I replaced ctraid with xraid + decursive, so maybe that's it |
| 21:26.19 | HoJ|Slayman | and secondly if u turn on FireShow this CT_RA shit is bombing the chat |
| 21:26.31 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 21:26.40 | hyperChipmunk | FireShow bombs chat whatever you do |
| 21:27.11 | HoJ|Slayman | compared to not raiding it's much much higher firing of events |
| 21:27.19 | HoJ|Slayman | *more |
| 21:27.47 | FryGuy | another thing.. is there a way to show posts since last visit in the new forum software? |
| 21:28.13 | FryGuy | er, threads with posts in them since your last visit, like the phpbb one does |
| 21:28.16 | HoJ|Slayman | yeah on top there is a nifty little link |
| 21:28.21 | cladhaire | FryGuy: yesm, there are two links., |
| 21:28.25 | FryGuy | "Show unread posts since last visit." seems to do the wrong thing |
| 21:28.34 | cladhaire | No, it does exactly that =) |
| 21:28.40 | cladhaire | then there's a show all unread posts since ever |
| 21:28.44 | FryGuy | only shows posts I've opened previously with new messages |
| 21:28.58 | cladhaire | FryGuy: No, it definitely shows ANY posts that have new posts since the last session |
| 21:29.05 | FryGuy | hmm wierd |
| 21:29.09 | FryGuy | it was buggy then :( |
| 21:31.09 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, babbly can be declared above the locals, I just like to keep the localization as close to the top as possible |
| 21:31.17 | ckknight | babble* |
| 21:32.06 | ckknight | I need to figure out why people's FuBars keep getting rearranged |
| 21:32.09 | ckknight | cause it's not supposed to, now |
| 21:32.34 | hyperChipmunk | k, cuz I use babble in some of my loc tables |
| 21:33.00 | HoJ|Slayman | yeah this is the oldest unfixed bug ever was there since the firt releases of bosspanel |
| 21:33.17 | ckknight | okay, hyperChipmunk, put it at the top, then |
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| 21:35.10 | FryGuy | oh another thing |
| 21:35.33 | FryGuy | svn doesn't have anonymous access anymore? |
| 21:36.01 | hyperChipmunk | hmm |
| 21:36.17 | FryGuy | like, i can't check out oRA from it, even though I can't commit |
| 21:36.37 | HoJ|Slayman | https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/browser/trunk works for me |
| 21:36.45 | FryGuy | svn.wowace.com |
| 21:36.48 | FryGuy | not that one |
| 21:37.04 | cladhaire | FryGuy: Wait what? |
| 21:37.07 | hyperChipmunk | function events:CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE() is gonna get huge |
| 21:37.48 | FryGuy | logged in as FryGuy, i can't browse the svn using repo browser in tortoisesvn |
| 21:37.54 | cladhaire | what repo? |
| 21:37.58 | cladhaire | like specifically |
| 21:38.18 | FryGuy | want to vnc to my comp and see? |
| 21:38.24 | cladhaire | if you'd like. |
| 21:38.43 | cladhaire | but it shouldn't be necessary |
| 21:38.46 | FryGuy | true |
| 21:38.54 | cladhaire | what repo are you going to? |
| 21:38.59 | FryGuy | http://svn.wowace.com |
| 21:39.34 | cladhaire | that's not a repository |
| 21:39.38 | cladhaire | that's just a webpagel. |
| 21:39.41 | hyperChipmunk | wow |
| 21:39.47 | hyperChipmunk | some of my stuff really sucks |
| 21:39.50 | FryGuy | well |
| 21:39.59 | hyperChipmunk | I'm glad I'm rewriting this |
| 21:40.01 | cladhaire | browse to http://svn.wowace.com/Ace |
| 21:40.04 | cladhaire | or any of the others. |
| 21:40.19 | FryGuy | same thing for http://svn.wowace.com/otravi |
| 21:40.23 | hyperChipmunk | I even scrutinized it pretty well, but I'm picking up all kinds of crappiness now that I'm actually re-thinking it |
| 21:40.28 | cladhaire | its not a lowercase o. |
| 21:40.33 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com/Otravi |
| 21:40.43 | FryGuy | well then I'm just a retard :( |
| 21:40.49 | cladhaire | No you'r enot =) |
| 21:40.58 | FryGuy | i did my own capitalization right :p |
| 21:41.08 | cladhaire | none of it is very clear if you'r ejust getting used to it. |
| 21:41.23 | FryGuy | now if there was a way to just mass checkout oRA |
| 21:41.27 | FryGuy | grumbles |
| 21:41.33 | cladhaire | what do you mean? |
| 21:41.36 | hyperChipmunk | only need to checkout once |
| 21:41.42 | hyperChipmunk | then you just do svn update oRA* |
| 21:41.49 | FryGuy | i guess I could check out the root into /interface/addons/ |
| 21:41.56 | FryGuy | then delete the svn folder and the ones I don't want |
| 21:42.12 | cladhaire | shift-click |
| 21:42.13 | cladhaire | highlight |
| 21:42.18 | cladhaire | nvm |
| 21:42.19 | cladhaire | haha |
| 21:42.19 | FryGuy | heh |
| 21:42.22 | FryGuy | ya i tried that :P |
| 21:42.33 | cladhaire | just checkout once |
| 21:42.36 | cladhaire | DONT delete the .svn folders |
| 21:42.46 | FryGuy | even the root one? |
| 21:42.46 | cladhaire | and then right-click update to update them |
| 21:42.50 | cladhaire | you only have to download once |
| 21:42.51 | cladhaire | nope |
| 21:42.55 | cladhaire | checkout each one individually |
| 21:42.57 | ckknight | it's okay that CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE gets big |
| 21:42.57 | cladhaire | (the ones you want) |
| 21:43.07 | FryGuy | hmm |
| 21:43.08 | cladhaire | then when you want to update them, select them, right-click svn update |
| 21:43.13 | ckknight | just don't mix and match them needlessly |
| 21:43.13 | cladhaire | it'll pull down the latest of all of them |
| 21:43.20 | cladhaire | trhey're all named the same, so its nice and easy |
| 21:43.24 | ckknight | i.e. you wouldn't check if the alliance flag was picked up in CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE |
| 21:43.41 | FryGuy | but I don't want his unitframes :p |
| 21:44.42 | hyperChipmunk | well you have it that way, and you just set them equal |
| 21:44.54 | hyperChipmunk | events.CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_ALLIANCE = events.CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE |
| 21:44.57 | hyperChipmunk | ya? |
| 21:45.01 | clad|afk | FryGuy: So don't check out his unitframes |
| 21:45.17 | clad|afk | FryGuy: Like I said, check out each one individually.. which makes updating them SIMPLE next time you need to |
| 21:45.22 | hyperChipmunk | not that it matters, it's all the same to me |
| 21:45.27 | clad|afk | shower.. brb |
| 21:45.41 | FryGuy | well I'm just saying it's going to take a while to check them all out |
| 21:45.46 | FryGuy | i'm trying to be maximum lazy :p |
| 21:45.46 | clad|afk | there's only 8 |
| 21:45.54 | clad|afk | i could check em out quick and put em up for download |
| 21:46.03 | FryGuy | i could download the tarball :p |
| 21:46.26 | hyperChipmunk | you don't get the .svn with the tarball though |
| 21:46.34 | hyperChipmunk | so you have to get the tarball every time you want to update |
| 21:47.01 | hyperChipmunk | if you check 'em out via svn, you get the .svn, and then you can just use svn update to update them |
| 21:47.16 | clad|afk | trust me this is the best way |
| 21:47.34 | hyperChipmunk | it's kind of the entire point of svn's existence =p |
| 21:47.41 | FryGuy | ya I know what svn is :p |
| 21:47.53 | FryGuy | just there's no console version with tortoisesvn |
| 21:48.09 | clad|afk | download the win32 binaries. |
| 21:49.47 | FryGuy | bleh it's fine |
| 21:49.49 | FryGuy | i'm already done |
| 21:50.36 | clad|afk | http://subversion.tigris.org/files/documents/15/29065/svn-1.3.0-setup.exe |
| 21:50.38 | clad|afk | by the way =) |
| 21:50.59 | FryGuy | ya i know where to get it :( |
| 21:51.05 | clad|afk | just making it easy for ya |
| 21:51.05 | clad|afk | ok |
| 21:51.07 | clad|afk | shower |
| 21:51.08 | clad|afk | then dinner |
| 22:08.59 | Mikma | yay! my friend told me that my latest ui-compilation sucked so i stopped sharing it :) |
| 22:09.06 | clad|dinner | O.o |
| 22:09.08 | Mikma | now i'm making it only for me and my gf |
| 22:09.12 | clad|dinner | hahah |
| 22:09.12 | clad|dinner | nice |
| 22:09.34 | otravi | oO |
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| 22:10.04 | Mikma | he didn't like oRA or FuBar ... |
| 22:10.18 | Mikma | "too much information on screen" |
| 22:10.22 | otravi | then it's him that sucks |
| 22:10.23 | Mikma | mmkay, what ever |
| 22:10.30 | otravi | err... oRA is.. very... silent :o |
| 22:10.41 | Mikma | otravi: well he didn't say that from oRA |
| 22:10.52 | otravi | and he could always just remove FuBar :D |
| 22:10.54 | Mikma | "whatever i don't raid" |
| 22:11.27 | Mikma | yeah but let him do his own compilations now, will be alot easier and i don't have to satisfy everyone |
| 22:11.33 | otravi | as long as people can make a choice when it comes to what they use - I'm happy' |
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| 22:12.05 | Mikma | i'm happy with bigwigs + ora, only thing i need now is _GOOD_ gui for raiding |
| 22:12.15 | otravi | PerfectRaid! |
| 22:12.22 | Mikma | blizzards gui is pretty good with AceHeal but with EasyRaid the frames keep jumping on screen |
| 22:12.23 | otravi | the current version "works" tho' |
| 22:12.41 | Neronix | IsAFK(Cladhaire) |
| 22:12.50 | Mikma | yeah but aceheal doesn't work with it i guess |
| 22:13.17 | Mikma | Neronix: 1 |
| 22:13.21 | otravi | yeh |
| 22:13.46 | FryGuy | bah |
| 22:13.53 | Neronix | Nicklist beat you, Mikma :P |
| 22:13.53 | FryGuy | is there a screenshot of perfectraidtargets? :p |
| 22:14.56 | clad|dinner | I'm here |
| 22:15.03 | clad|dinner | i'm only afk until the bf gets here to go to dinner |
| 22:16.25 | clad|dinner | err.. i'm NOT afk until he gets here. |
| 22:16.54 | Mikma | FryGuy: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/preview.php?id=2155&t=1 |
| 22:17.35 | clad|dinner | ack.. i really need to get that addon cleaned up |
| 22:17.37 | clad|dinner | maube this weekend |
| 22:17.42 | FryGuy | that's perfectraid isn't it? |
| 22:17.52 | Mikma | ya |
| 22:17.54 | FryGuy | not the target one |
| 22:18.07 | clad|dinner | that snot PerfectRaidTargets |
| 22:18.13 | clad|dinner | but it uses the same general look |
| 22:18.38 | Mikma | wtb AceHeal support |
| 22:19.02 | FryGuy | does it have targettarget is what I was wondering |
| 22:19.05 | clad|dinner | you can code aceheal supporet easily |
| 22:19.11 | Mikma | i wonder where the author of AceHeal has gone to |
| 22:19.13 | clad|dinner | there's a custom click cast function |
| 22:19.21 | clad|dinner | Thisterall doesn't have time to code anymore |
| 22:19.24 | clad|dinner | doubt he'll be back |
| 22:20.01 | Mikma | oh great, another addon abandoned |
| 22:20.09 | clad|dinner | .. |
| 22:20.12 | clad|dinner | you can use watchdog |
| 22:20.16 | clad|dinner | or something else |
| 22:20.52 | Neronix | clad|dinner: look at your pms please |
| 22:21.08 | Mikma | well there aren't many good healingaddons around which are light and effective |
| 22:21.12 | Neronix | or querys or whatever they were called on irc >.< |
| 22:21.15 | clad|dinner | I responded to you |
| 22:21.21 | clad|dinner | email me at cladhaire@gmail.com |
| 22:21.25 | clad|dinner | with rdesired repo and login name |
| 22:21.30 | Neronix | Ok, thanks |
| 22:21.32 | clad|dinner | and i'll try to get to it this weeken d=) |
| 22:21.33 | Mikma | i'm never going to use CastParty again, that's just too horrible addon |
| 22:21.38 | Neronix | didn't get your reply for some odd reason |
| 22:21.46 | clad|dinner | i may not be regidtered on this nick |
| 22:22.00 | clad|dinner | Mikma: What do you want from AceHeal/CastParty that WD can't give you? Rank selection? |
| 22:22.43 | Mikma | clad|dinner: well i don't need anything, not even gui, i only need an addon which use smartheals |
| 22:23.00 | clad|dinner | define SmartHeals? |
| 22:23.03 | Mikma | click-heal is the only thing i really wan't |
| 22:23.05 | clad|dinner | something that makes spell decisions for you? |
| 22:23.12 | clad|dinner | If all you want is click-healing, use WatchDog |
| 22:23.20 | clad|dinner | if you can't find anything else to work |
| 22:23.49 | Mikma | well aceheal works for the moment but i bet it won't work for much longer |
| 22:23.52 | clad|dinner | but again that's really your call =) |
| 22:23.57 | clad|dinner | Nothing's going to break AceHeal |
| 22:24.03 | clad|dinner | and someone can always cut the code out |
| 22:24.16 | kergoth` | i like aceheal. minimal, does one thing and does it well, or it did |
| 22:24.21 | kergoth` | heh |
| 22:24.33 | clad|dinner | kergoth: Depends on what you expect from it. |
| 22:24.59 | clad|dinner | It does a few things, and thats whats breaking |
| 22:25.05 | clad|dinner | healselection, heal cancel, and click-casting. |
| 22:25.26 | clad|dinner | i plan to break WD out into two sections, UnitFrames and ClickCAsting |
| 22:25.36 | Mikma | imho heal cancel is really useless. if person can't cancel the spell by himself then he shouldn't play a healer ;) |
| 22:25.45 | clad|dinner | tell me about it. |
| 22:25.47 | clad|dinner | don't get me started =) |
| 22:25.52 | clad|dinner | and i have opinions about heal selectino too |
| 22:26.01 | clad|dinner | I know.. you'r eshocked.. _I_ have opinions |
| 22:26.19 | Mikma | meh :) well they are for people who shouldn't be healers |
| 22:26.22 | clad|dinner | how absurd |
| 22:26.27 | Mikma | but they are so easy :D |
| 22:26.30 | clad|dinner | I agree =) |
| 22:26.41 | clad|dinner | I have 2 level 60 raiding healers.. and i woudl never use them |
| 22:26.51 | Mikma | i didn't wan't to be a healer, i wanted to be a facemelter |
| 22:26.56 | clad|dinner | heheh |
| 22:27.02 | Mikma | but noooooooo, "this guild only needs healers" |
| 22:27.05 | clad|dinner | i'm a ZOMG feral dps pew pew pew, and a healbot priest |
| 22:27.14 | clad|dinner | not to mention my rogue *shrug* |
| 22:27.35 | Mikma | i got bored of the characters i have played and started a rogue :D |
| 22:27.40 | Mikma | seems so fun at the moment |
| 22:27.50 | clad|dinner | i'm leveling my hunter |
| 22:27.59 | kergoth` | heal selection and click casting are awfully nice. who cares about cancel |
| 22:28.02 | kergoth` | heh |
| 22:28.14 | kergoth` | i dunno what to do with myself without it :) |
| 22:28.20 | Mikma | i have a 60 mage on pvp, 60 shaman on pve and 60 priest on pve.. now starting the 31 rogue on same server as the priest is |
| 22:28.53 | clad|dinner | see i dont like heal selection =( |
| 22:29.23 | Mikma | but it goes well with the click-casting :P |
| 22:29.37 | Neronix | my first char was a pally |
| 22:29.45 | Neronix | I'm still kicking myself... |
| 22:30.01 | clad|dinner | see i disagree completely.. if you HAVE click-ctsing.. you have so many cc optinos.. why do you need a spell to decide how much to heal FOR You? |
| 22:30.44 | clad|dinner | itf we're talking raid game it has no place whatsoever.. and even in 5-mans or PVP.. you should be deciding what amount to heal, considering the mod never predicts the future.. but you can make preemptive decisions |
| 22:30.45 | clad|dinner | *shrug* |
| 22:30.58 | clad|dinner | not to mention spellbook parsing, inventory parsing, buffs, +heal, etc. |
| 22:30.59 | kergoth` | because theres more than just heal type, theres spell rank, and i dont have enough actionbuttons for all those :P |
| 22:31.12 | Mikma | well i myself use only flasheals on priest |
| 22:31.24 | Mikma | hardly ever greater heal |
| 22:33.06 | cladhaire | A priest (in particular) needs aboiut 6 heals on click-cast |
| 22:33.31 | Mikma | ranks 2-7 flash heal? ;) |
| 22:33.37 | cladhaire | GHeal (highest rank) Gheal rank 2, Heal Rank 4, flash heal highest rank, flash heal rank 2 or 3 |
| 22:33.47 | cladhaire | that's 1k,2k,3k and 4k roughly =) |
| 22:33.57 | Tain | Yeah AuraScan annoys me. |
| 22:34.05 | cladhaire | Tain: Heheh sorry |
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| 22:34.18 | Mikma | usually if i start to cast GHeal the target will die before the heal lands |
| 22:34.26 | cladhaire | even with the 2.5 sec cast? |
| 22:34.30 | cladhaire | i find that hard to believe |
| 22:34.34 | cladhaire | i use it everywhere except bwl |
| 22:34.47 | Mikma | then you propably have the talent |
| 22:34.59 | cladhaire | why wouldn't you, even as a shadow priest? |
| 22:34.59 | cladhaire | ? |
| 22:35.02 | Tain | You've got the touch. You've got the power. |
| 22:35.16 | cladhaire | stil.. 3.0 seconds isn't bad. |
| 22:35.34 | Mikma | well i got used to flash heal when gheal was 4 secs |
| 22:35.34 | kergoth` | if all you use is flash heals, you're not as efficient as you could be, plain and simple |
| 22:36.24 | Mikma | and, i don't have to be as efficient as i could be since usually there's many priests healing the same target |
| 22:36.34 | Mikma | meaning 2-3 spells will land on same time |
| 22:36.40 | Mikma | at MT's |
| 22:36.54 | cladhaire | ok |
| 22:36.56 | cladhaire | dinner time |
| 22:37.21 | Mikma | have fun, i'll hit the bed, it's 01:38am here :P |
| 22:38.19 | Mikma | i'll just watch this wwe-wrestling show first :P |
| 22:40.28 | Mikma | world's strongest man my ass |
| 22:40.58 | Mikma | sure, he's got the power but i bet his stamina is weak |
| 22:41.08 | Neronix | I bet he's scripted :P |
| 22:41.37 | Mikma | they all are, that's why this is such a great show |
| 22:41.43 | Mikma | just like watching comedy |
| 22:41.55 | Neronix | I suppose |
| 22:42.12 | Neronix | but the scary thing is, you still get people who think it's real O.o |
| 22:42.18 | Mikma | most of the times you can guess what happens next and you're usually right |
| 22:42.43 | Mikma | oh yeah that's true, my friend is one... "he was really bleeding, he was hurt!" |
| 22:45.18 | Mikma | the best part is those judges are the worst actors ever |
| 22:45.18 | Neronix | The console games are probably scripted too |
| 22:45.57 | Neronix | Ages ago, I was playing one against my friend's bf |
| 22:46.09 | Mikma | hmm after this 2 month prepaid is over i think i'll let my account freeze and start to play gta san andreas |
| 22:46.13 | Neronix | he had all my limbs broken and my nose burst, yet I somehow pinned him |
| 22:46.36 | Neronix | that had to be scripted :S |
| 22:46.45 | Mikma | sounds like wwe |
| 22:46.55 | Neronix | it was |
| 22:47.10 | Mikma | did it have 2 almost naked, greased men hugging each other? |
| 22:47.20 | Neronix | I had never touched the game before yet I suddenly wtfpwned him at the last minute |
| 22:47.28 | Neronix | yeah XD |
| 22:48.36 | Mikma | oh it's a miracle, he was about to be counted out but suddenly he gained all his strength back |
| 22:49.00 | Mikma | i wanna have the same stuff he's taking |
| 22:49.15 | Neronix | heh |
| 22:49.18 | Mikma | ROFL!! |
| 22:49.25 | Mikma | <0146> <Mikma> the best part is those judges are the worst actors ever |
| 22:49.47 | Mikma | why oh why did i even mention it.. not that hard to guess what happened |
| 22:49.49 | Neronix | haha |
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| 22:53.12 | Mikma | they should really skip raw/smackdown and just show porn |
| 22:53.20 | Mikma | it's much more educating than those 2 ever |
| 22:55.23 | Mikma | otravi: ain't metrognome really just 1 file and timex is complete addon? |
| 22:56.43 | otravi | metro is a embedded libary so, yes :) |
| 22:57.11 | Mikma | well the less addons needed the better ;) j/k, do as you see best :) |
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| 23:02.02 | otravi | so - who wants to see us wipe on Twin Emps in 1h? |
| 23:02.56 | otravi | hehe |
| 23:03.15 | otravi | Going to do Twin Emps without two of our MTs and one of the "MT" warlocks :p |
| 23:03.26 | otravi | infront of around 5k people |
| 23:03.55 | Mikma | lan-party? |
| 23:04.30 | otravi | yes, demoscene ftw |
| 23:04.34 | Mikma | ooooh |
| 23:04.41 | Mikma | what's the happening called? |
| 23:05.13 | otravi | The Gathering |
| 23:05.24 | Mikma | somehow i guess my friend's there |
| 23:05.57 | otravi | hehe |
| 23:06.30 | Mikma | i seripusly doubt they'll get a demo out |
| 23:06.37 | Mikma | seriously* |
| 23:07.00 | Neronix | How far have people gotten on C'thun now? |
| 23:07.30 | Mikma | Inner Sanctum on Silvermoon EU has killed the Eye of C'thun |
| 23:09.17 | Neronix | I see |
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| 23:09.46 | Mikma | oh now i get it, after having a look in metrognome's code i saw this: function lib:Register(name, func, rate, arg) |
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| 23:23.53 | Warol | setname Warol|Test |
| 23:32.08 | otravi | oh, this one is running pretty nice! |
| 23:32.22 | Warol | Of course --- it's a Warol |
| 23:32.27 | otravi | oO |
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| 23:41.14 | otravi | Mikma: many guilds have taken phase one on C'Thun |
| 23:41.27 | otravi | Neronix: http://live.media.tg06.gathering.org/tg.asx << in 20minish :) |
| 23:50.50 | Andreas__ | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4771 |
| 23:50.52 | Andreas__ | the inner fire counter |
| 23:50.59 | Neronix | Thanks otravi |
| 23:51.01 | Andreas__ | there is a problem |
| 23:51.10 | Andreas__ | inner fire charges gets used if you're shielded |
| 23:52.53 | otravi | that should be easy to get around |
| 23:53.34 | ckknight | why is it that whenever I try to reproduce a bug in order to fix it, I can't? |
| 23:53.35 | ckknight | gah |
| 23:53.54 | Neronix | Blame Murphy :P |
| 23:54.01 | Codayus | Because if it was easily reproducable, it'd be easy to fix, and if it was easy to fix, you'd have fixed it already. |
| 23:54.06 | Codayus | :-) |
| 23:54.28 | otravi | ckknight: Try deleting some lines related to where the problem is :----D |
| 23:54.52 | otravi | (yes, I'm a little bored) |
| 23:54.59 | ckknight | ... |
| 23:55.14 | ckknight | it's the plugin rearranging deal |
| 23:55.19 | ckknight | I can't seem to reproduce it |
| 23:55.28 | ckknight | but people keep telling me it exists |
| 23:57.43 | otravi | why not ask HoJ|Slayman for his savedvars and what plugin he uses? |
| 23:58.01 | HoJ|Slayman | i heard my name |
| 23:58.12 | Neronix | oh no, that stream's too high quality for me >.< |
| 23:58.23 | otravi | Neronix: awhm :( |
| 23:58.37 | Andreas__ | ntmysFixLoadingTimes is godly |
| 23:58.57 | ckknight | HoJ|Slayman, send me your FuBar.lua savedvars |
| 23:58.58 | Neronix | I'll try to watch it anyway |
| 23:59.06 | otravi | no, Catalyst is godly :D |
| 23:59.09 | HoJ|Slayman | whereto? |
| 23:59.15 | ckknight | ckknight at gmail |
