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00:00.14Andreas__I noticed a Fubar bug
00:00.14ckknightwhat's that?
00:00.24Andreas__when you scale the screen, sometimes it will have too much space towards the left and right edges of the screen
00:00.40Andreas__and you can't fix it unless you create a new panel and destroy the old
00:00.54ckknightyou can drag an edge to resize it
00:01.14ckknightand I fixed the scaling issues
00:01.19ckknightfor resolution change
00:01.23ckknightand such
00:01.42Andreas__yeah, just noticed the edge dragging, that should be a good way
00:01.44Andreas__thanks
00:02.06ckknightshat do you mean scale the screen?
00:02.19Andreas__Video settings, set scale
00:02.25ckknightoh
00:02.28ckknightthought I fixed that...
00:02.34Andreas__I might be using an old version
00:02.38HoJ|Slaymanckknight: mail is sent
00:03.13Andreas__I'm using 0.9.10.245 (from the TOC)
00:03.16ckknightAndreas__, what version are you using?
00:03.20ckknighthrm
00:03.43ckknightwell, I thought I fixed it before that...
00:03.58ckknighteither way, I can't reproduce it, I just changed my scale and it resized properly
00:04.41Andreas__I can't remember the specifics, if it ever happens again I'll notice what triggered it
00:04.45ckknightokay
00:05.21Andreas__Oh, I remember the old versions getting updated by SVN
00:05.46Andreas__This time though, I get no tortoise logos on the directories
00:06.46ckknightHoJ|Slayman, you in WoW now?
00:06.56HoJ|Slaymanactually yeah
00:07.04ckknighttype in /script FuBar:Reset()
00:07.15ckknightafter that, I'm hoping it fixes your issues
00:07.20HoJ|Slaymangimme a sec
00:07.29ckknightthe old versions did something strange to the savedvars
00:07.57Mikmafreaking wednesday come soon
00:08.18ckknightit's Friday...
00:08.24HoJ|Slaymanso if i arrange, scale and do wierd stuff to em they'll stay ?
00:08.26Mikmai know :(
00:08.36Mikmasaturday in here but...
00:08.51Mikmablizz was gay and delayed the 1.10.1 patch in eu for 1 week
00:08.56Mikmai wan't my crashfixes
00:09.04Mikmai wanna add my friends back to friendlist :(
00:09.16Mikmaand change the minimap texture to something much more porn
00:09.34NeronixSorry otravi, but the stream's unwatchable :(
00:10.41ckknighttheoretically, HoJ|Slayman
00:10.47ckknightwell, I need you to test it and make sure
00:12.04otraviNeronix: aaw :(
00:12.11otravistarting to gather up a zerg behind us :(
00:12.28ckknightAndreas__, found the scaling issue, fixed
00:12.43Andreas__so there was one? ^^
00:12.50ckknightyea
00:13.01Andreas__how did you find it again
00:13.03ckknightI was comparing a cvar to 0 instead of to "0"
00:13.05ckknightmagic!
00:13.23Andreas__Well that's great :)
00:13.26Andreas__anyway you
00:13.33Andreas__you're not using SVN for FuBar?
00:13.41ckknightsvn://ckknight.hopto.org/FuBar/
00:13.46Andreas__Thanks
00:13.56ckknightthat has all the plugins I wrote and such in it as well
00:14.23ckknighthyperChipmunk, how's GloryLib coming along?
00:14.51Mikmahttp://tinyurl.com/s85xj or http://tinyurl.com/m4l49 .. haven't decided yet
00:15.21Mikmahttp://tinyurl.com/rendf this may be too much
00:15.45Andreas__btw, ckknight
00:15.54ckknightyea?
00:16.01Andreas__is it possible to have a module added to the svn
00:16.12ckknightMikma, star of david?
00:16.21ckknightAndreas__, well my svn is "special"
00:16.38Mikmackknight: what's that?
00:16.39ckknightAndreas__, it automatically updates versions, changelogs, and packages it for release
00:16.50ckknightMikma, in the last one, there's a star of david in the center
00:17.14Mikmaoh... well it's still gonna be hidden under the minimap or so :P
00:17.16Andreas__sounds nice
00:17.53Mikmasince 1.10 gave us the chance to change minimaps texture without addons i'm going to try it when 1.10.1 hits eu servers
00:17.54ckknightAndreas__, so I could theoretically put one up
00:18.12Andreas__Well, it is kinda complete and very simple
00:18.15ckknightbut I'd rather keep it for me
00:18.41Andreas__I wouldn't want to use the SVN myself
00:18.45ckknightah
00:18.51Andreas__it was more like handing it over to you
00:19.00ckknighthanding what over?
00:19.10Andreas__my tiny module
00:19.43ckknightwhat is it?
00:20.05Andreas__it is a replacement for WorldStateFrame, the one that shows on the top middle of the screen in a battleground
00:20.12Mikmahmm someone should register http://www.worlfofporncraft.com/ ;D
00:20.26ckknightworlf?
00:20.30Mikmawhops
00:20.34Mikmatypo++
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00:21.20ckknightAndreas__, I dunno, kinda obseleted with the new BatFu stuff hyperChipmunk's working on
00:21.46Andreas__Can I see it? What's the goal of that addon you're mentioning?
00:22.01ckknightBattlegroundFu
00:22.14ckknightit has a lot of shiny Battleground-related features
00:22.36Andreas__I made mine because battlegroundFu did not replace worldstateframe... Only the killing blows
00:22.57ckknightworldstateframe shows like the flag status and whatnot, right?
00:22.59MikmaMinimap:SetMaskTexture("file") -- Set the texture for the minimap mask
00:23.05Mikmayeah there it is :)
00:23.17Andreas__ckknight, yeah, it's the frame where flags flashes in WSG, or lists score in AB
00:23.25Andreas__and bases captured
00:23.31ckknightyea, BatFu kinda obseletes that
00:23.52ckknightleast I think so
00:24.14ckknighteither way, it will show the names of who has the flag and whatnot, and the status of bases and such
00:25.12Neronix`sleepnight
00:25.17ckknightcya
00:25.50Andreas__I guess I'll just contine using it myself then
00:25.55Andreas__but it got flashing flags and all!
00:25.57Andreas__:P
00:26.14ckknightI don't need the responsibility of another addon
00:26.32ckknightespecially one I wouldn't use
00:26.33ckknightsorry
00:26.41Andreas__It's no problem :P
00:27.25ckknightI absolutely can't seem to reproduce the rearranging deal
00:29.00ckknightHoJ|Slayman, after doing reset, do you still have the issue?
00:29.23HoJ|Slaymanon a reload they stay where they are supposed to be
00:29.30HoJ|Slaymanneed to relog once to confirm
00:29.42ckknightokay
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00:47.56otraviyay, we didn't wipe btw :)
01:01.18ckknightwipe?
01:07.44otraviwe did Twin Emps on a big screen here
01:18.07HoJ|Slaymanckknight: everything appears to be fine, thx for naming that method and good night @ all
01:40.16ckknightclad|afk, can I get an svn repository on wowace?
01:50.42ckknighthey Cairenn
01:50.48Cairennhey
02:00.13ckknightwell, I've figured out svn:externals to be able to link libraries
02:00.24ckknightthe problem is, it only works on directories, not on files
02:01.48ckknightI also figured out how to add the current version and such to the README.txt and lua files
02:05.01ckknightclad|afk, I need you, *snifF*
02:23.03TainI wrote a new AuraCheck function to scan for a buff, I'll leave AuraScan because people use it but wanted something a lot simpler.
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02:48.58hyperChipmunkdarnit
02:49.02hyperChipmunki fell asleep again
02:59.31ckknightsleep is bad!
02:59.34ckknight~sleep
02:59.36purl[sleep] overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine.
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03:38.36Kaeltenhey guys
03:39.04Kaeltenclad|afk,  you around?
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03:40.13hyperChipmunk=P
03:40.20Kaeltenlol
03:40.45Kaeltenkergoth,  I'm having a hard time getting your class code to work.
03:48.57ckknight"If my ear were a vagina, I could have sex with myself"
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04:13.04hyperChipmunkckknight: that's beautiful
04:13.06hyperChipmunkthanks for sharing
04:15.44ckknightit's from Penn & Teller: Bullshit
04:15.53hyperChipmunksure it is
04:16.01ckknightyea, episode 104
04:58.21Kaeltentem: got an error in that new mod of yers
04:58.50Temwhat version?
04:59.10Temit was possible to get an error in version 1.0.2 I think
04:59.20Temer, maybe it was 1.0.3
04:59.22Temnot sure
04:59.30Temupgrade to 1.1.0 and you shouldn't get any
05:00.15KaeltenCatalyst.lua:76: attempt to call a nil value
05:00.15Kaelten<PROTECTED>
05:00.18Kaeltenthat one ?
05:00.58Kaeltenand there is something weird going on with kergoth's class code?
05:09.18TemKaelten: yeah, upgrade to 1.1.0
05:12.11hyperChipmunktry using nFLT with Catalyst
05:12.13hyperChipmunkI hear that works
05:14.09weabnflt didn't do anything to my load times
05:14.23hyperChipmunki was kidding
05:14.31hyperChipmunk~bait Tem
05:14.59ckknightmmm... naked people are their own reward
05:15.01Templease see my previous comments about using the two together
05:15.05weabit looked like a bandaid for crappy mods more than blizzard's coding
05:15.21hyperChipmunkit looks like a kick in the balls
05:15.24Tem"Any issues you have with Catalyst while running nFLT at the same time are your problem. I warned you that they won't play nice together."
05:15.34ckknightwhat is nFLT?
05:15.40hyperChipmunkntmsFixLoadTimes
05:15.54ckknighthrm
05:16.07hyperChipmunks/Load/Loading/
05:16.50TemI thought it was nyms?
05:17.04hyperChipmunker
05:17.06hyperChipmunkntmys?
05:17.12hyperChipmunkntmysFixLoadingTimes.zip
05:17.15hyperChipmunkntmys
05:18.00hyperChipmunkn- to mangle your system
05:18.02hyperChipmunkhm
05:18.10hyperChipmunkhappy-fun fake acronym time
05:18.27hyperChipmunktoday's acronym: ntmys
05:19.38ckknightnoobs to mangle your system
05:19.44hyperChipmunkthere ya go
05:20.56ckknightwork on GloryLib at all?
05:21.14hyperChipmunkyes! actually
05:21.22hyperChipmunkI slept for 4 hours
05:21.27hyperChipmunkand now I'm making great progress
05:21.37hyperChipmunkrethinking this model is really making happy results
05:21.46ckknightgood stuff
05:21.57ckknightfirst priority is a good API
05:22.08ckknightsecond priority is efficiency
05:22.12hyperChipmunkyou call a function in GloryLib by just doing FunctionName(self, arg1, arg2, ...) right?
05:22.31hyperChipmunkor did I misinterpret that
05:23.02ckknightyou do glory:func(arg1, arg2, arg3)
05:23.14hyperChipmunkfrom w/in glorylib?
05:23.27ckknightwithin glorylib, you do self:func(arg1, arg2, arg3)
05:23.32hyperChipmunkah, k
05:23.36ckknightthe reason for Trigger(self, arg1, arg2) is cause Trigger is local
05:23.41hyperChipmunkah
05:23.43hyperChipmunkrighto
05:23.44ckknightit's not part of the API
05:23.49ckknightit's private
05:25.32ckknightalso be sure you never do lib.whatever
05:25.38ckknightit's self.whatever
05:25.45hyperChipmunkright
05:26.04hyperChipmunkI got it
05:26.11hyperChipmunk=)
05:26.19hyperChipmunk~chippersnack me
05:26.20purlACTION feeds hyperchipmunk some nuts.
05:26.35ckknight...?
05:26.47hyperChipmunkI got something right =p
05:26.56hyperChipmunkit's an accomplishment!
05:28.03Kaeltenwell guys I'm off to bed
05:28.04Kaelteng'night
05:28.15hyperChipmunksweet dreams
05:38.35hyperChipmunkcan i just use the normal function events:EVENT_NAME for the events I trigger from w/in GloryLib?
05:39.36hyperChipmunkhm
05:39.46hyperChipmunkor i can stuff it all in when I trigger it, I suppose
05:41.08hyperChipmunkand CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE grows huger =)
05:47.48ckknightwait, what's your question?
05:47.57hyperChipmunklike
05:49.42hyperChipmunkI had functions to manipulate my battlefield objective table's values based on the chat events...but now that I've made the parsing of chat events trigger events of their own, I could just use those events to trigger table manipulations
05:50.05hyperChipmunkor I could just do the manipulations when I trigger them
05:50.40ckknightyour goal is to not manipulate data when using the library
05:50.45ckknightthe library should do all that for you
05:51.04hyperChipmunkI'm talking about within the library
05:51.09ckknightokay
05:51.13hyperChipmunkwhich is what makes it possible to do it at the same time
05:51.24hyperChipmunkto just do the manipulations when I trigger the events
05:51.51hyperChipmunkrather than as a response to the event firing
05:51.58hyperChipmunkeither way, it does the same thing
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05:52.32ckknightso are you having the library register with its own events or something?
05:52.52hyperChipmunkI was asking if that's what it does
05:52.58blahevahi, i need some help playing on a private wow server
05:53.13ckknightprobably the wrong place to come, blaheva
05:53.14blahevawhat's the best version to upgrade wow to?
05:54.22hyperChipmunkthis is the ace project channel; we make interface AddOns for officially-supported clients here
05:54.35blahevaok sorry
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05:54.43hyperChipmunkwtf
05:54.46ckknightseriously
05:54.50ckknightthat's not cool...
05:54.56ckknightand why'd he come here?
05:55.27hyperChipmunksame reason he had those questions, I assume
05:55.31hyperChipmunki.e. he's a moron
05:55.52ckknighthehe
05:56.38hyperChipmunkawesome, I think I just crashed wow with BatFu
05:56.47ckknighthehe
05:57.31hyperChipmunkbam! fatal exception
05:57.40ckknightlol
05:58.54hyperChipmunkpuny wow client was no match for my programming suxitude
05:59.09hyperChipmunknever stood a chance
06:00.14ckknighthrm, if I ever go to a class where they teach creationism beside evolution, I'll demand respect for a geosynchronous orbi
06:00.20ckknightorbit*
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06:07.31TemhyperChipmunk: what did you do?
06:08.45hyperChipmunkheck if I knwo
06:08.58hyperChipmunkit happened when the horde picked up our flag
06:09.27hyperChipmunkclient probably looked at CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE and crapped its pants
06:10.22Tekkuberf
06:14.27TemhyperChipmunk: see if you can get it to repeat
06:14.38hyperChipmunker, why?
06:15.01Temwell..
06:15.10Temif you can reliably crash the client, you need to report it
06:15.14Temso it can get fixed
06:15.32TemI crash it all the time :)
06:15.37hyperChipmunkI honestly think it was screwed-up coding
06:16.39hyperChipmunki sent the crash log though
06:17.22ckknightreport it to who?
06:17.26ckknighthyperChipmunk's writing it
06:17.40hyperChipmunkhehe
06:17.44hyperChipmunkbliz i think
06:17.48ckknightlol
06:17.48hyperChipmunksince it doesn't fail gracefully
06:18.03hyperChipmunkand embedded code probably should
06:18.21Temyou should never be able to crash wow with lua
06:18.26Tem*never*
06:18.28ckknightyea
06:18.52Temso, when you do, report it to slouken
06:18.54Temand it gets fixed
06:20.12Tekkubdoes locking up with a loop count as crashing?
06:20.32hyperChipmunkwell, I actually got a fatal exception box
06:20.38hyperChipmunkbut i duno
06:24.02Tekkubhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4840
06:24.08TekkubI think I love Jello
06:25.18hyperChipmunk=D
06:25.35hyperChipmunkhis stuff is great; I swear by TrinketMenu and ItemRack
06:27.00hyperChipmunkdoh, I'm not allowed to comment =(
06:27.05otravioh! I see the title now!
06:28.16ckknightyou mean Gello
06:28.31hyperChipmunksweet dreams
06:28.44Cairenn|sleepnight guys
06:28.58ckknightyou're not asleep
06:29.00ckknightand we know it
06:29.04hyperChipmunkhehe
06:29.14Tekkubyou know what Boss, screw you :P
06:29.21TekkubI _MEANT_ Jello
06:29.30ckknightyea, Jello is fucking awesome
06:29.32ckknightred's bet
06:29.34ckknightbest*
06:29.49hyperChipmunkgrr
06:29.53hyperChipmunknow I want jello =(
06:30.07ckknightme too...
06:30.21hyperChipmunk/doom
06:30.23TemNight Cairenn|sleep
06:31.34Tekkubyou know, I think I'm gonna bug Clad for a profiling version of AceEvent
06:31.49ckknighthrm
06:31.53TemTekkub: did you intentionally typo on his comment?
06:31.53Tekkubwe can track event handler times with Ace really easily
06:32.06TekkubTem, STFU
06:32.11Tekkubscroll up ass
06:32.17TemI know
06:32.21TemI'm talking about on WoWI
06:32.27Temwas that on purpose or did you screw up twice?
06:32.28TekkubI know you are
06:32.41Tekkub<Tekkub> I _MEANT_ Jello
06:32.58hyperChipmunkSTOP TALKING ABOUT JELLO
06:33.56TekkubI'm in a bad mood, 2nd full MC run, second shittiest one the guild has had (the other was the first), and hubby being a fucking prick about me not playing with him
06:34.59Tekkubhe doesn't play at work for a week and a half, he checks out a dozen books from the library, and the ONE fucking night I raid he's a dick thru the whole thing that I'm not playing with him tonight
06:35.17hyperChipmunkyea, how dare he not play games at work
06:35.50Tekkubthen I get out of the raid and get invited to take on one of the green dragons' I ask him to go, and he's too fucking slow and loses his spot
06:35.59Tekkubthen he bitches at my while I do that
06:42.20hyperChipmunkis this acceptable use?
06:42.39hyperChipmunkfunction lib:GetDefender(NodeToPOI(node))
06:42.50ckknighteep, no
06:42.57hyperChipmunkwell, self:NodeToPOI
06:42.58ckknightis that how you're declaring it?
06:43.01hyperChipmunkhehe
06:43.03hyperChipmunknp
06:43.14hyperChipmunkI was just wondering; I'll do the transform on the first line of the function
06:43.20ckknightyea
06:43.22ckknightthat's how you do it
06:43.54hyperChipmunkfunction lib:GetDefender(node) local poi = self:NodeToPOI(node)
06:44.03ckknightright
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06:48.32hyperChipmunkwhat is "Whitetooth Zoning Time"?
06:48.56hyperChipmunkone of my teammates just said, "anyone using mods and not using Catalyst and Whitetooth Zoning Time seriously need to get those."
06:50.26Temhaha awesome
06:50.41TemWhiteTooth is the worst of the 3
06:50.52Temit's the one that has a loop in it's event handler
06:53.37TekkubBossman, question
06:53.55Tekkubwhat's DurabilityFu doing on BAG_UPDATE?
06:54.08hyperChipmunkchecking the durability of items in your bag?
06:54.26Tekkubif that's true hC it's damn wasteful
06:54.33hyperChipmunkjust a guess
06:54.58Tekkubyea it's my guess to, just wanna hear it from Bossy before I bitch him out
06:55.03hyperChipmunkheheh
06:59.00haste"rawrs"
06:59.19hyperChipmunk~smack haste
06:59.21purlACTION smacks haste upside the head.
06:59.27hyperChipmunk~highfive purl
06:59.45hastedamn the SVN, it has made me hate uploading files on interface sites even more :(
07:00.00Tekkubhrm DuroFu is doing something on UPDATE_INVENTRY_ALERTS too... do I need to spank you Bossy?
07:00.04hyperChipmunkisn't it wonderful
07:00.14Tekkubhasteyotter... /agree
07:01.02Tekkubthis OnEvent thing is nice, it dug up Boss's error so quickly :)
07:10.58ckknightTekkub, do not pay attention to the man behind the curtain
07:11.15Tekkubmmmhummmm.....
07:11.28Tekkubhow often is DuraFu rescanning Bonny?
07:11.35Tekkub*Bossy
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07:17.59otraviYou know you are tired, when you upload the wrong addon :(
07:18.08hyperChipmunkwtg nub
07:18.36Tekkubotter! fix anchoring in the oRA modules!
07:18.50Tekkubnever anchor to UIParent damnit!
07:21.22TekkubBosser, DuraFu needs some serious reworking
07:21.48TemTekkub: Upload Warmup to WoWI
07:21.55Tekkubwhy?
07:22.05TekkubI gave you the code for zone times already
07:22.14Tekkubwhat else did the bishies want?
07:22.33otravi:OO
07:22.35otraviwhat module :p ?
07:22.46TemTekkub: they wanted event counts
07:22.54Tekkubugh
07:22.58TemTekkub: I said "No, get WarmUp"
07:23.01Tekkubpoint them at the SVN :P
07:23.04Temlol
07:23.08hyperChipmunklol tem
07:23.11Temlast I heard, the SVN version wasn't working
07:23.15TekkubI'm too lazy to do a "real" release
07:23.18hyperChipmunkwfm now
07:23.19Firedanceryour svn version didn't work for me
07:23.28Firedanceri'm using an older version >.<
07:23.30Tekkubthe latest latest SVN?
07:23.42Firedancersome error aboutt 'frame' whenever I'd log in
07:23.45Tekkubcause the shit they were bitching about ain't in the one I fixed for hC
07:23.46hyperChipmunkyesterdays fixed that
07:23.51hyperChipmunk<3
07:23.54Firedancerhmm
07:24.00otraviI'm using the SVN version :O
07:24.02Firedanceri'll give it a shot since i just logged to update oRA
07:24.10Tekkublern2updatebeforeyouwhine!
07:24.30otraviTekkub: I'll fix the dura hooking, but no now :p
07:24.42otravierr... anchoring...
07:24.45Tekkubotter... huh?
07:25.05Tekkuboh
07:25.06Tekkub:P
07:25.12TekkubI already fixed it locally
07:25.22otraviI thought you did it on the SVN also :o
07:25.25Tekkubbut cause clad's a big homo I can't commit it up
07:25.28otravimight be me who has f'd up
07:25.34otravi:(
07:25.37TekkubI fixed one, I found more
07:26.03otravime goes afk, yeeees!
07:26.31Firedancerwell...i updated it last night and it was still broken. I try to be helpful rather than whiney.
07:27.24Tekkub:P
07:27.56Tekkub"it doesn't work" never helps, and asside from chipper that's all I've gotten
07:29.02TemTekkub: I just tested the latest svn version
07:29.05Temworks fine
07:29.15FiredancerYeah, I was tired and went to bed without posting :D works fine now tho :D
07:29.31Tema question though, why does it report addon loading info before all addons are done loading?
07:29.43Firedancerlol
07:30.36TekkubI'm givin Vynn shit on the forum about it :)
07:31.04TekkubTem: it reports when all NORMAL addons are done, at VARIABLES_LOADED
07:31.11Tekkubthe others are OnDemand addons
07:31.16Temaaaah
07:32.30Temalright, I'm done for now
07:32.34Temnight guys
07:33.08otravi~rawr
07:33.33Tekkubfine since Bossman is ignoring me I'll bitch at him in a bug report
07:34.53Firedanceri've been trying to figure out how to fix the tooltips for fubar_guildfu plugin but i can't get anything to work right :p so tired of getting spammed in one of my chat windows with fubar code when I mouse over it ><
07:35.16otravihaha
07:35.26otravihave you seen some of the comments on the zone fix adons?
07:35.38hyperChipmunkchange all FuBarTooltip: to self.tooltip:
07:35.47otravilike: "I just Hearthstoned from Orgrimmar to Crossroads, and I arrived instantly. I nearly fell off my chair... I literally saw NO loading screen at all. Amazing mod mate, please keep it maintained, cos this is top of my favourites list ;)"
07:35.58hyperChipmunk..............
07:36.04hyperChipmunkhilarious
07:36.45Firedancerlol
07:37.32Firedancerself.tooltip is the only thing to change? i thought there were additional parameters added to the DoubleLine stuff...maybe I did it wrong the first time. trying again
07:37.57hyperChipmunkthey're all optional
07:38.04hyperChipmunkthe self.tooltip si what's causing the messages
07:39.22Firedancerah
07:39.24Tekkubmaintained? it doesn't matter if 1.11 breaks it... fools
07:39.32Firedanceri could have sworn i tried that and it didn't work
07:39.46Firedancerbut it woked this time.
07:39.56Firedancernow to fix fubar_mail's tooltip >.>
07:40.14Tekkubso now, what does KC_Inventory do? :)
07:40.26Tekkubcause it's the second big hog on BAG_UPDATEs
07:42.20otravikill puppies!
07:42.48Firedancerhah
07:43.27Tekkubyea fire, fix it and email me it to SVN up :)
07:43.46TekkubI've gotten sick of fixing my mods cause Bosser changed BP/FuBar around
07:43.48hyperChipmunkhaha
07:44.05otravi~comfort Tekkub
07:44.07purlThere, there, Tekkub.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
07:44.18Tekkub~shutup purl
07:45.57hyperChipmunki think it's
07:46.00hyperChipmunkpurl shut up
07:46.01purlyes, Master hyperchipmunk
07:46.08Tekkubahso
07:47.29hyperChipmunkBatFu is getting tiny =x
07:48.10otraviWhen you only say BatFu... I think of baseball bat being slammed into someone ;<
07:48.33hyperChipmunkyes, it has such beautiful imagery that way, doesn't it?
07:48.48Firedancerwut is batfu? :D
07:49.04hyperChipmunkFuBar_BattlegroundFu
07:49.09Firedancerah!
07:49.14Firedanceri like that one :D
07:51.54otravihmm.. I've only slept 7 hours the last... three days
07:52.03otravi(in power naps total)
08:10.04Neronixmorning
08:10.37Tekkub:P there, big bitchy bug report for Bossman
08:10.45hyperChipmunkhehe
08:11.17Firedancerlol
08:14.30Firedanceri approve of the bitchy bug report!
08:16.01NeronixWoo!
08:16.21NeronixI never expected so much interest in my first mod :D
08:23.06NeronixHmm.. where do you go to see whether your submission's been approved on curse?
08:23.16hyperChipmunkthey send you a PM
08:23.24Neronixok, thanks
08:23.31hyperChipmunkand you get a new little window on your page
08:23.45hyperChipmunkfor editing your addons
08:24.53NeronixOk
08:28.39Tekkubblarf, cursed
08:30.22NeronixI know. I personally prefer ui.worldofwar and wowi
08:40.13Neronixnight hyper
08:40.24hyperactiveZzzzznight nero
08:40.30hyperactiveZzzzznight Cair =)
08:40.40Tekkubyou know...
08:40.48Tekkubthat makes no sense
08:40.57Tekkubyou should be notsoactiveChipmunk
08:41.05hyperactiveZzzzzha
08:41.17hyperactiveZzzzzi can't even fit hyperactiveChipmunk as a nic
08:41.18hyperactiveZzzzzk
08:41.37sedatedChipmunkbetter?
08:42.00Tekkubkek
08:42.19sedatedChipmunk>8D
08:42.22TekkubtwitchinginhessleepChipmunk
08:42.27sedatedChipmunkthx tek
08:42.36Neronixbur
08:45.59sedatedChipmunkoh, and if you see Boss--or ckknight, or Optimus, or Octavian, or whatever he's calling himself now--let him know that GloryLib is at 95% completion and should be ready before tomorrow afternoon (hopefully)
08:50.36WobbleWhat's GloryLib?
08:50.40WobbleHonour tracking?
08:59.50Kaelten|Sleepif anyone is interesting in piggy backing on KC_Item's tooltip stuff check this out.
08:59.56Kaelten|Sleephttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/KC_Items_Tooltips
09:00.04Kaelten|Sleepalso if anyone spots any typo/errors let me know.
09:00.08Kaelten|Sleepnow I'm really going to bed
09:00.11Kaelten|Sleepgnight
09:09.21Neronixhmm...
09:09.32Neronixcan you do dofile() in wow?
09:10.31Wobblenot afaik
09:10.35Wobbleer not afair
09:11.45NeronixI see
09:17.27Tekkubkael you bitch!
09:31.28Mikmafucking telia-sonera
09:32.06Mikmainet was out of order for 4 hours here and i called to sonera. they said "will work again in tuesday"
09:32.13Mikmafunny thing it started to work now
09:34.27MikmaNeronix: gz on the first mod ;)
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09:50.15Neronixthanks Mikma :)
10:01.44Mikmanice addon, nice idea. simple and beautiful
10:02.31oxman:D
10:02.51oxmanit's useless for my usage
10:02.51oxman:p
10:03.12NeronixIt's just code from Auctioneer made standalone
10:03.26oxmani don't use auctioneer ;p
10:04.02Neronixtook me 5 hours to do when I hoped to do it in 1 >.<
10:04.21otravi:(
10:04.32oxman;D
10:04.57NeronixYeah, I spent 4 hours trying to figure out why OnLoad and OnEvent weren't doing anything
10:04.59Mikmaumf
10:05.05Neronixand it turned out that I forgot </Ui>
10:05.06Mikmauseless? no not really
10:06.05Neronixsaving your sanity's not useless
10:06.07oxmandon't cut my sentence
10:06.12oxman<PROTECTED>
10:06.14oxmanFOR MY USAGE
10:06.20Neronixah, sorry
10:06.26Mikmayeah if you don't use auctionhouse xD
10:06.29oxman;p
10:06.32oxmani don't use them
10:06.32oxman:)
10:07.17MikmaNeronix: btw typos and missed lines in .xml can be a bitch ;D
10:07.24NeronixI noticed :P
10:08.02oxmanwell
10:08.08oxmanwho kill c'thun ? :p
10:08.17Mikmai quote myself "wtf is wrong with this f*cking addon, why aren't the slashcommands working" .. and 2h later after doing the code over and over for 20 times i notice it's a typo in .xml ;)
10:08.30oxmanlol
10:08.38Neronixsomeone killed c'thun?
10:08.43oxmanno :)
10:08.58oxmanthe vhl guild sleep ;p
10:09.01oxmanthey're bad ;D
10:09.19Mikma<OnLoad> DoFoo() </OnUpdate> ;)
10:09.26otravierr?
10:10.35Mikmameheh, i'm being annoying, teasing neighbours with music ;) Playing Pendulum out loud nihaha
10:11.01Mikma"let is come streamliiiine"
10:11.44otraviwhat the hell is Pendulum?
10:11.52otravigenre :o ?
10:11.58Mikmadnb
10:12.12Neronixhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendulum_(band) ?
10:12.24otraviclosest I get to that is: Apoptygma Berzerk and Ayumi Hamasaki Eurobeat remix :p
10:12.31MikmaNeronix: bingo
10:12.38Mikmaotravi: oooh :D appopopoppoot :D
10:12.50otravi:-----D
10:13.06Mikmaapoptygma berzerk - welcome to earth
10:13.10Mikmai have that one
10:13.18otravithe old apop > everything else
10:13.55Neronixclosest song I have to DnB :S
10:13.58otravithat one is also cool :D
10:14.07otravi(I have a very strange taste for music)
10:14.12Mikmasame here
10:14.16NeronixMine is stranger
10:14.22Mikmai usually don't like dnb but pendulum is just to cool
10:14.24otravi:o
10:14.38MikmaEBM, (Goa/Psy)Trance...
10:14.41NeronixI listen to Sigur Ros and symphonic metal o.o
10:14.59Neronixand various kinds of rock
10:16.07Mikma"Tarantula" (featuring Fresh, $pyda and Tenor Fly) - this one form pendulum is just too damn cool, really :D
10:16.17otraviSigur Ros was a little imba :D
10:17.00Neronixheh
10:17.18Mikmahttp://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF179965-01-01-01.mp3
10:17.26Mikmathere's a sample of tarantula
10:19.10NeronixReminds me of hiphop O.o
10:19.44otravihttp://www.myspace.com/dubrainhertz << reminds me of hiphop p
10:19.54otraviInfernal Region RMX at least
10:20.07Mikmai'll just pop this one on and go to sauna after :D Apoptygma Berzerk - 02 - Starsign.mp3
10:20.50Mikmathat song reminds me of my friends
10:21.20Mikmathey we're going to the gathering last year and they played that from their ghettoblaster out loud in airport ;)
10:21.54otraviI am at the gathering actually :p
10:22.06Mikmayeah, so are my friends too i think
10:22.24otraviwas fun doing AQ40 raid on the big screen here :)
10:22.38otraviwith around 30 people standing behind you watching your every move :p
10:22.47Mikmawiped?
10:22.56otravinope, Twin Emps done with one death
10:23.11Mikmaafter my friend starts to laugh me that they we're playing wow in there i'll say "i know" ;)
10:23.15Neronixnice
10:32.50TekkubI've got this sudden urge to convert SpecialEvents into embeddables
10:34.19otravi:O
10:34.31otraviI'm pondering the thought of using metrognome in oRA instead of Timex
10:34.50Tekkubyea I know....
10:35.08TekkubI didn't mean to steal Timex's thunder, but I've had that ugre too :)
10:35.45Tekkubokey so aside from SE... what other embeddables do we need....
10:37.56Neronixhmm
10:38.21Neronixdunno :S
10:38.31Tekkubyou're helpful :P
10:38.54NeronixI was about to say Warmup, but I realised it was silly at the last minute :P
10:39.03Tekkubkerg's doing the simple data structures....
10:39.15otraviTekkub: Well, timex is a little overkill on one timer (As it is used for now)
10:39.38Tekkubyou know what'd be uber kewl otter?
10:39.47Tekkubif timex started using metro
10:39.51Tekkub:)
10:41.27id`lol
10:41.28id`:p
10:41.32id`(morning)
10:41.56otravihello
10:42.10otravihehe, wonder how that would be Tekkub
10:42.14id`The night that joined the lover and the beloved one, turning each into the other.
10:42.23id`Hm, nice lyrics
10:42.37id`Lloreena Mckennitt
10:42.39Tekkubsounds like some kinky sex act
10:42.58Mikmawhere?!
10:43.03id`s/turning/transforming/
10:43.14TekkubWerebears!
10:43.19id`ahhh!
10:43.38Tekkubaw come on indie, I'd so fuck a werebear
10:44.00id`i'd so not
10:44.02id`:
10:44.03id`\
10:44.20TekkubImagine him shiftin whilst he's busy poundin you *grin*
10:44.40id`no, no, no >_<
10:45.01id`argh my virgin mind.. what have you done...
10:45.45Tekkub*grin*
10:45.56TekkubI got some great werebear stories if you want
10:46.10Neronixhahaha
10:46.11id`I dont like fur :<
10:46.14Neronixmorning id`
10:46.18id`hi Neronix
10:46.24Tekkuboh yea... guess what I got tonight
10:46.38id`In fact my chin feels like a babies butt
10:46.41id`:P
10:46.52Tekkubhttp://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=18203
10:47.14TekkubIt goes well with my Beaststalker hat
10:47.33Tekkubnow I just need the matching claw and I can be a furry for reals!
10:49.21id`its got nice speed
10:49.30id`i always prefer speed weapons over high damage weapons
10:49.48id`steady damage output ftw, especially in games in pvp
10:49.51id`(not only wow)
10:50.00NeronixThey need to make more fist weaps >.>
10:53.12Tekkubmy fellow hunters have made it their goal to get me deep into negative DKP
10:53.37TekkubI was at -19 going in tonight, I think I spent 65
10:53.44Tekkuband earned prolly 10
10:53.47Tekkub:)
10:56.31Tekkubmaybe I'll whip up Gratuity
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10:58.48otravi(I read that as gravity)
10:59.39Tekkubokey that was cute... damn cat
11:00.07TekkubI'm sittin here, fresh out of the shower, rubbing some dry skin off my ankles.....
11:00.32Tekkubkitty brush up against me and a bunch of the skin falls off on her head, she freaks out
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11:10.51Neronixhey [MoonWolf]
11:10.59[MoonWolf]hey people.
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11:12.15id`lo moon
11:14.21oxmanlo
11:24.11[MoonWolf]tekkubs next post is his 1k
11:27.07Neronixhttp://www.wowace.com/?page=usage - shouldn't this be on the wiki?
11:30.37[MoonWolf]perhaps
11:30.41[MoonWolf]ill see into taht
11:30.47[MoonWolf]it was written way before we had a wiki
11:31.17NeronixI see
11:39.13[MoonWolf]Tekkub, congratulations on post 1k!
11:39.40Tekkub:P
11:41.05NeronixGrats
11:42.18Tekkubmeh
11:54.46NeronixSee when doing AceAddon:new at the start?
11:55.02Neronixif I don't have savedvariables, do I just remove the db line?
11:55.46Neronixor do I just make the contents ""?
11:56.30id`Tekkub: you spammer. ive been here since august 05 and i have 300 posts
11:59.57[MoonWolf]You are both spammers
12:00.17[MoonWolf]i have been here since september
12:00.26[MoonWolf]and i have 195
12:03.26Neronixdoes AddonName:Enable() only get called when the user does /ace addonname enable?
12:03.33Neronixor does it get called when the addon loads?
12:06.16[MoonWolf]when the addon loads an when it is taken out of standby
12:06.48TekkubIF it's enabled on load
12:06.55[MoonWolf]<PROTECTED>
12:07.00NeronixSo it's best to put event registering stuff in enable()?
12:07.11Tekkubyes
12:07.14[MoonWolf]that is where it is intended to go yes
12:07.16Neronixok, thanks
12:07.18Tekkubdon't register on init
12:07.36[MoonWolf]any hookf done though ace unhook themselves on a disable, you do not have to do that yourself
12:07.50Neronixnoted, thanks
12:07.56Tekkubunregisters are done for you if ace does the disabel... but if you're calling disable yourself make sure to unregister all and unhook all
12:11.23NeronixI see
12:12.31Neronixand when aceing my addons, do I rename variables from say, MyAddon_Foo to MyAddon:Foo?
12:12.57Tekkubvariables? use a .
12:13.04NeronixI see
12:13.05TekkubMyAddon.Foo
12:13.24NeronixI haven't gone as far as the OOP stuff in the Lua docs yet :P
12:13.30Tekkuband if you're inside Addon:SomeMethod() you can get at it a tad faster with self.Foo
12:13.40Tekkubthe : is key there
12:13.55Neronixnoted, thanks
12:14.08[MoonWolf]functions use a : to pass self around it is syntatic suger for Addon.SomeMethod(self,...)
12:14.16Tekkubonce you get used to how self works it kicks ass
12:14.44Tekkubanywho, teevee tiem!
12:26.12Elvisoso even for non-ace coding, if your functions are in the format Addon:Method()....you can use self.var instead of Addon.var?
12:27.47Elvisothe whole self thing confuses me
13:05.55id`a={b='foo',c=function(self,string) print(string) end} a.c(a,a.b) a:c(a.b) a:c('blah')
13:06.06id`Elviso: can you make anything out of that?
13:24.06id`Tekkub, ckknight, Cairenn|sleep, [Ammo], clad|afk, Codayus, Djanee, Elviso, Eraphine, FryGuy, Fritti, groll, gxam, Jarenthal, kergoth, Mikma, Neronix`afk, otravi, oxman, pagefault, phyber, purl, sedatedChipmunk, Slayman, Tain, Thiana, weab, Wobin_
13:24.14oxman:)
13:24.17id`I am now officially playing wow again
13:24.22id`DUN DUN UN!
13:24.24id`dun*
13:24.29oxmanlol
13:24.30id`(on eu servers)
13:24.37oxmanbuy an account for lineage II
13:24.37oxman;)
13:24.42id`i just added a subscription and my account is unfrozen
13:24.45id`nah
13:24.46id`:p
13:24.54oxmanlineage II is better :)
13:25.16id`thats an opinion
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13:26.21otravi_hmm, I just... fell a sleep.. on the keyboard :<
13:26.27otravi_"just"
13:27.10oxmanmy CleanUI is finish ;p
13:27.25oxmani need add some /cmd, and i release it on curse :)
13:27.36id`boooo curse
13:27.41oxmanin few hours in think (i must do shopping etc :p)
13:27.50oxmancurse is the most popular website for addon
13:28.40otravi_I dislike Curse... 'cause of friends experience with the NeT guy or something
13:28.49otravi_can't remember what it was anymore :O
13:28.52oxmanlol
13:28.59oxmanit's very stupid
13:29.12oxmanif you don't remember the problem, so you have no reason to dislike it
13:29.13oxman:)
13:34.54id`im not even going into duscussion. curse is a puthole of newbies flaming people and SHIT, it sucks. THE END.
13:35.14oxmannobody flam my addon
13:35.14oxman;D
13:35.20id`dont care
13:35.24id`now go shopping
13:35.27oxmanlol
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13:42.14SlaymanCONGRATS id`
13:44.21Slaymanid´ if u r playing again, update ur idMinimap to optionally cast find mins/herbs/treasures on right click ! ^^ I'm off shopping now
13:46.22hasteYou know whats REALLY REALLY REALLY fun?
13:46.32hastewhen TV2 (norwegian TV chan) just wakes you up
13:46.43hasteyou haven't slept more then seven hoursish the last three days
13:46.59hasteand the first question you get is: How would you pickup a girl on IRC?
13:47.07hasteand you are dealy tired, and almost lost :---D
13:47.38Mikmaanswer was? :D
13:47.58hasteI don't think I gave much of an answer
13:49.43hasteI'm so looking forward to seenig myself fuck up on TV :----D
13:51.52hastebtw, two x2 camears and question like that = worse then 30 people watching you do Twin Emps p
14:05.44Mikmabah, replacing the minimap texture wasn't that easy afterall
14:11.10id`Slayman: I will
14:11.50id`haste: all girls are guys on irc
14:11.56id`except for cairenn
14:11.58id`and emma-chan
14:11.59id`:>
14:12.02id`(not from here)
14:14.08hastehaha
14:14.25hastewell, try answering to that while you have one of the most unserious persons in your face id`
14:14.49hasteand two cameras that attract like tons of people :o
14:15.22id`:p
14:15.56hasteit was worse then doing twin emps with around 30 people around you :p
14:16.01id`welcome to irc; where the men are men, the women are men and the little boys are fbi agents
14:16.07haste:-P
14:16.13id`emps?
14:16.19hasteTwin Emps in AQ40
14:16.23hastewe did on the big screen here
14:16.28id`;o
14:16.34hasteand with streaming :p
14:16.43id`heh
14:16.49hastetogether with the blizzard CM Thundergot
14:17.10hasteit was a perfect kill however, and the person streaming used my Unit frames *grin*
14:17.22id`:p
14:17.32id`last time i played wow was 22 fab
14:17.34id`feb*
14:17.39id`i have some catching up to do
14:17.48id`lots of new spiffy addons to view
14:17.50id`:p
14:18.54hastehehe
14:19.04hasteso you have started to play again :o ?
14:19.07clad|afkotravi: You have a screenshot of your unit frames?
14:19.30id`haste: yes
14:19.31id`:D
14:19.38id`cladhaire: \o/
14:20.02hastecladhaire: http://plixx.org/?3z << they are basicly a dirty hack based of AceBarFrames
14:20.24hasteand added most things that AceLucenFrames has.
14:21.23hasteid`: good to have you back :)
14:21.33hastenow update the official idChat so I don't get anymore questions about it :p
14:23.12cladhairenice and clean =)
14:23.57otraviI should do a crash-course in optimization tho'
14:24.06otraviit's something I _need_ to learn more about
14:25.57TainYou know clad, as much as I know why everyone's a separate repository I can't help but like that I used to just update at trunk on trac's svn and get everything in one shot.
14:28.00cladhaire*shrug*
14:28.02cladhairewe can go back to this
14:28.06cladhairebut this is how it was set up
14:28.42TainI don't know what's better, I just know what appeals to my sensibilities of being lazy. :)
14:29.26cladhairepermissions are actually easier (in one respec) on a single repository
14:29.58cladhairerepository creation becomes non-existant.. we just create a directory
14:30.27cladhaire<PROTECTED>
14:30.43cladhaireit was an experiment that became the standard in 2 seconds, cause opensvn was down
14:31.02TainYeah I know it's a lot simpler from that perspective.
14:31.18Tainheh well that's how things often find themselves in the spotlight
14:31.32cladhairei can't do groups with a granular SVN
14:31.39cladhairein a monolithic, I can do @ace_devs
14:31.53cladhaire@acedevs = tardmrr, cladhaire, kergoth, kaelten
14:32.01cladhaireand then give acedevs write permission to Ace.
14:32.09cladhairesame with ora, mend, pt, etc.
14:32.28cladhairebut this is what we have right now =/'
14:32.52cladhaireone passwd file, etc.
14:32.58TainWell I've only really worked on individual SVN repositories, nothing the size of what we have with Ace and it's addons.  So I don't know if there's "best" ways.
14:33.14TainBut it does seem like the single repository is easier for us.
14:33.18cladhaireme neither
14:33.25cladhaireits nice for each person to have control over their own repo
14:33.33cladhairebut it doesn't gain us much, except individual logs
14:33.36cladhairewhich is a weakness to some
14:34.14TainWell the individual logs is a really nice thing ot have.  But, I suspect that would be less of an issue if everyone used descriptive log entries which not everyone has in the past.
14:34.23cladhaireaye
14:34.25cladhairebrb
14:39.10id`What's Catalyst?
14:39.31id`(I'm going through the svn looking for stuff I haven't seen yet)
14:39.37TainCatalyst is wonderful!
14:39.39id`(Couldnt find it on the forums)
14:39.54id`I bet, so what's it do?
14:40.27TainTem's addon to vastly improve zone times by unregistering events that aren't needed that fire hundreds of times during zone
14:40.36id`ownage
14:40.40id`*use*
14:40.48TainMartha, fetch my gun.  "I believe I found the source of the problem, the author of TrainerSkills appears to have used "print" as a global variable in his AddOn."
14:41.09id`hahaha
14:41.37Mikmaanyone has photoshop or some program which can do transparent .tga's?
14:42.45TainBest bet for free would probably be The Gimp, takes a bit to learn the interface and how to do it all but it's well worth it if you're going to work with graphic files.
14:43.00Mikmai hope it supports os x
14:43.13TainOh in that case I have no idea.
14:43.19Tain~gimp
14:43.20purlgimp is probably the scourge of the kompany, or an excellent image manipulation program.  2.0 is now stable and it has MANY, MANY improvements over the 1.x series.  Pick it up NOW. *_GREAT_*!
14:44.03TainI don't know if there's an OSX version, if I had to guess without any information I'd like to think it does.
14:46.22id`Im sure there would be something for osx
14:46.22Mikmacrap, it requires X11 installed
14:46.40id`Mikma: well thats a small duh :\
14:47.02Mikmawell no it ain't but i don't wan't to install the freaking dev-kit :P
14:47.31Mikmai'm trying to replace my minimapborder with this: http://www.wowtextures.com/gallery2/d/3286-2/AuraRune8.jpg
14:47.48Mikmabut it's too large and it needs to be resized to 192x192 :P
14:48.08id`then it'd prolly interfere with the minimap..
14:48.14id`or not showup how you want it :X
14:48.41Mikmawell it did show up but was not aligned properly and was too large
14:49.12id`ah k
14:50.13Kaeltenhi
14:50.30cladhaireHey Kael
14:50.33cladhaireKaelten: WE NEED TO TALK BISH
14:50.35cladhaireyou never email me.
14:50.38cladhairei'm gonna cry
14:50.41Kaeltendid too!
14:50.45Kaeltendid last night
14:50.55cladhairelol well i didn't check yet =)
14:51.01Kaeltenha! yer fault!
14:51.03KaeltenBish!
14:51.14cladhaireDo we want to move to a single monolithic repository like before
14:51.18cladhaireor stick with this independent nonsense
14:51.19cladhaire?
14:51.27KaeltenI prefere the independent nonsense
14:51.34cladhairedo you really, for any particular reason?
14:51.56TainI say we do monolithic and then do one-off independant ones for people who really want them.
14:52.13cladhaireCause there are many advantages to having a main repo
14:52.29cladhaireand some to having individuals.
14:52.34cladhairebut i want to address it before we get too far in
14:52.57cladhairenot that we already aren't.
14:53.09TainNah not too bad yet.
14:53.35Kaeltenhmm
14:53.39cladhaireBut like i said, I really want to address it before we get too far
14:54.01cladhaireKaelten: TO give you an idea, I can (in a single repo) use groups, like @AceDevs = tardmrr, cladhaire, kergoth, kaelten
14:54.13cladhaire@PeriodicTable = tekkub, otravi, moonwolf
14:54.21cladhaireand still have permissions fully locked down
14:54.38cladhaireso ONLY those who need or request commit access to a SPECIFIC directory can get it
14:54.44cladhairewould be no more password script
14:54.46Kaeltenhmm
14:54.58cladhaireand we could likely import what we have already in the individual repos.
14:55.12TainSee I still liked the idea of having full write under each addon for branches though.
14:55.24cladhaireTain: and I can still do that
14:55.33Kaeltenhmm
14:55.35cladhaireI can do anythign permission wise
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14:55.37cladhairebut we need to decide.
14:55.50cladhaireZOMG!!!
14:55.54KaeltenI just like the ability to have things a little bit more organized.
14:55.54cladhaireHAPPY BIRTHDAY!!111
14:55.56Kaeltenlol
14:55.56TainToday if you want to do that I would have to create my own folder under my own repo to branch say KC_Items.
14:56.17cladhaireTain: Thats correct.. and its kinda annoying that way =)
14:56.22cladhairethere are pluses and minuses to each
14:56.32cladhaireI just hink we should talk and work it out so I can get things set up
14:56.42TainAbsolutely, there's big plusses to having individual repos.
14:57.06TainI do think that for the bulk of Ace addons a single repo is a good idea.
14:57.27TainAnd if you don't mind doing the permissions things that you're already doing, people can still have indidivual repos as well.
14:57.41otravithis is so fun!
14:57.44cladhairebut thats another issue.. how do you tell peopl ewhat goes in the Ace repo and what doesn't?
14:57.56otravidebugging a php script, over irc, without seeing any of the source and just the errors :p
14:58.05id`Cairenn: im back @ wow ^^
14:58.11cladhaireotravi: lol >3
14:58.13Cairennid`: cool
14:58.16otravi~stroke id`
14:58.17Kaeltenhmm
14:58.19id`yay 1.10 update finished installing
14:58.30cladhairegood to have you back id =)
14:58.33id`xD
14:58.42TainHere's the other thing I really like about having a single repo.
14:58.47Kaeltenwell I'm about to have to go afk
14:59.06Tainid was just looking through the trac svn and looking at the new addons he wasn't familiar with.
14:59.23TainThat's a lot harder when you have to go through a few dozen individual repos.
14:59.29Kaeltendo we want to have a seperate repository for official Ace projects?
14:59.51cladhaireI say no.. because what constitutes an "official ace project?
15:00.15KaeltenAce, AceGUI, Ace2  AceDev
15:00.28cladhaireBut thats it.. that's like having what we have now
15:00.30TainI would think though it would be ok to have them all in a single repository since you can control permissions.
15:00.34cladhaireand what i expected us to do with what we have now.
15:01.03TainUnless it's something entirely different you're thinking of with having a separate Ace reposotiry.
15:01.49cladhaireWe can do anything.. I just want to make sure it makes sense
15:02.11cladhaireI originally toyed with a post-commit hook that re-commits the same commit to a seperate single repo that can't be edited directly
15:02.13cladhairebut that sucks.
15:02.23Kaeltenewee
15:02.23Mikmaid`: welcome back :)
15:03.02Kaeltenok clad: go ahead with the single repo and wonderful multiple weird group permissions
15:03.09cladhairelol
15:03.17cladhairewhat changed your mind?
15:03.29cladhairewe can do it anywhere.. we just never decided, cause it got rolled out way too quickly
15:03.29cladhairelol
15:03.51KaeltenI don't have any major reason to keep it the way it is other than its nice to have private control of things
15:04.01Kaeltenif I can keep control of my trunk and tags directory then I'm happy.
15:04.03cladhairewhat "things".. cause maybe i can give them
15:04.29cladhairewell
15:04.34Kaeltenmainly my addons trunk and tags
15:04.49cladhairethen the questino is.. is WatchDOg Ace/trunk/WatchDog/
15:04.55cladhaireor Ace/trunk/Cladhaire/WatchDog?
15:04.57cladhairebah
15:05.18Kaeltenor is it Ace/WatchDog/trunk?
15:05.22cladhaire=)
15:05.27cladhaireaye.. there's the question
15:05.37KaeltenI've been using KaelCycle/Kc_Items/trunk
15:05.52KaeltenI think
15:06.01cladhaireotravi: What about you?  what are your thoughts?.
15:06.02Kaeltenbut thats the example they used in the documentation for svn as well
15:06.03cladhaireid`: You too
15:06.19cladhairei prefer to trunk/branch/tags under the project title.
15:06.25cladhairebut thats just me
15:06.32Kaelten<rep>/<project>/<trunk/branch/tags>
15:06.39TainPersonally I don't have a need for my name out there.
15:06.39otravicladhaire: I haven't been following the discussion, currently helping a friend with some server issues
15:06.51cladhaireoh ok
15:07.02otravibut what Kaelten said there looks fine to me
15:07.23cladhaireI can DO permissions like that
15:07.24cladhaireBUT
15:07.31cladhaireI'd have to make every new project
15:07.44otravioh that sucks a little
15:07.46cladhairethere's no "authenticated users"
15:07.56cladhairewell i could make a grouop
15:08.04cladhaireso everyone has access to the repo root
15:08.12cladhairehrm.
15:08.21Kaeltencould you make a script to create a new project?
15:08.46otraviIf you want my current opinion: If the system works, I can get used to it, and I have no problem with people having rw access to "my" files.
15:08.49cladhaireits possible yeah, but i'd probably rather avoid it.
15:08.49Kaeltenenter user/pass and project name and it spit out the correct directorys?
15:09.35Kaeltenhmm
15:09.46Kaeltenwell I've got to run
15:09.49cladhaireOk
15:09.50cladhairei'll think about it
15:09.52cladhaireand do.. something.
15:10.04KaeltenI say go for the signle repo
15:10.20Kaeltenand just give people acess to their directories for write access
15:10.37cladhaireso you would split things up by author.. or leave projects in root?
15:10.44Kaeltenroot
15:10.52cladhairek
15:10.54Kaeltenif we split them up by author we may as well leave it the way it is
15:10.56cladhairei'll look at it then
15:11.27Kaeltenk
15:11.45KaeltenI'll be around but afk, if you need to ask me something go for it and I'll be checking occasionally.
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15:12.48id`< cladhaire> id`: You too
15:13.01cladhaireid`: Askindg you opinions on the svn =)
15:13.22otraviWell,what solution is the "easiest" on the admin side?
15:13.25id`I don't have any experience with svn, but all in one seems easier to browse...
15:13.31cladhaireotravi: None of them =)
15:13.41otravicladhaire: oh, that sounds joyable
15:13.49cladhaireotravi: Having everyone having their own directory.. under a single repository
15:13.49id`maybe I can get some exp by putting my idAddons on there some time :>
15:13.58cladhaireotravi: Gimme a sec
15:14.50otraviI am one of those that trust everyone, and with a SVN system it's quite easy to get things rolled back if someone makes a mistake
15:15.13cladhaire[/]
15:15.13cladhaire* = r
15:15.13cladhairecladhaire = rw
15:15.13cladhairekaelten = rw
15:15.13cladhairetardmrr = rw
15:15.17cladhaireaccess files are of that format
15:15.31cladhairedirectory, * = all and then individuals until the next [/directory]
15:16.23cladhairei can make a script that authenticates using logins and passwords.. and allows you to create a new directory
15:17.41cladhaireparsing in php isn't horrible.. so
15:24.41otraviwhy not generate it from a database, or xml file?
15:24.57otravior wouldn't that be possible on the svn?
15:25.22Wobin_Tain: yeah I read that about the global 'print'
15:25.29Wobin_And went wtf? =P
15:25.45cladhairenot possible.
15:25.59cladhaireotravi: The file has to be owned by the apache user.. and has to be in that format.
15:26.12cladhaireI could make it a backend database, and then generate it from there
15:26.16Wobin_oh, Clad, are the password thingies more stable now?
15:26.19cladhairebut thats about it.
15:26.21cladhaireWobin_: No =)
15:26.24cladhaireWobin_: That's what we're working on
15:26.25Wobin_okay =)
15:27.01Wobin_I hate it when webpermissions collide
15:27.07cladhairewell, whats wrong with your username?
15:31.35Wobin_oh nothing
15:34.02cladhaireoh
15:34.07cladhaireyou should be able to use the script to change it.
15:34.08cladhaire*shrug*
15:39.51id`Where can i find AceTooltip?
15:40.01id`btw I vote for one trunk
15:40.03id`:>
15:40.14cladhaireacetooltip is on the opensvn i believe
15:40.37id`k
15:41.18ckknighthey all
15:41.22cladhaireheyas boss
15:41.46ckknighthey cladhaire, can I get an svn repository?
15:41.52cladhaireckknight: Certainloy
15:41.56cladhaireit'll likely not be until tomorrow
15:42.01cladhairei'm working out how we want to organize i.
15:42.02ckknightalright
15:42.11cladhaire(we're going back to a single repo, with finer grained permissions than before)
15:42.30ckknighthrm
15:42.35Wobin_It would make it easier to navigate
15:42.42cladhairethat;s one of the main complaints.
15:42.49Wobin_Since we currently have a mix of authors and projects
15:43.13ckknightcause I figured out that with svn:keywords, I can automatically update the versions/dates and whatnot
15:43.36cladhaireckknight: What do you mean?
15:44.04ckknightin the lua files, I have versions are major.minor.revision
15:44.14ckknightso it'll be 1.0.revision soon
15:44.26ckknightI can automatically update the revision number
15:44.58ckknightif you have svn:keywords, you can do $Rev$ or $Date$, and it'll insert that variable
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15:49.16id`sourceforge is so slowwww
15:49.21id`:\
15:49.54Mikmabah, got the image converted to 192x192 but now it crashes WoW
15:53.53Wobin_REally? That's quite useful
15:58.58Temgod damnit I hate that guy
15:59.20cladhaireTem:
15:59.23Eraphinemirvalix?
15:59.26cladhaireone repository with projects and permissions under the main
15:59.29cladhaireor many repositores
15:59.45TemMiravlix
15:59.47Temcan't stand him
15:59.50cladhaireme neither
16:00.00Eraphinebtw has any checked out tuller's omni cooldown count?
16:00.06Eraphineit's buggy - but bow - it saves on the mem
16:00.10Temyeah
16:00.13cladhaireno i havent
16:00.15Eraphinejust generates font strings hooked on cooldown function
16:00.16Temthat was actually my idea
16:00.23cladhaireWHat idea?
16:00.24Eraphineorly?
16:00.25Temseriously, I had that idea like 2 weeks ago
16:00.27cladhaireGello came up with it too.
16:00.29cladhaireand posted about it
16:00.32Temah
16:00.32cladhaireif its the one i'm thinking
16:00.44cladhaireGello made a huge "Wtf.. just do it" post.
16:00.48TemI discussed it in here like 2 weeks ago
16:00.49Eraphineit hooks the update cooldown function
16:00.53cladhaireyep
16:01.09TemI have a sort of working base for it
16:01.10cladhaireTEM:
16:01.10cladhairesvn
16:01.13cladhaireanswer the question
16:01.13cladhaireNOW
16:01.15TemWHERE damnit
16:01.32cladhaireone repository with projects and permissions under the main or many repositories
16:03.14Temisn't it a little late?
16:03.18cladhaireno
16:03.21cladhairewe have to do it now.
16:03.28cladhairebut if we change it needs to be done
16:03.34cladhairethe svn took off ONLY because opensvn was down
16:03.38cladhaireand tekkub went insane
16:03.50cladhaireKaelten and I were just experimenting
16:04.10TemI've been doing commits to anything new there
16:04.15cladhaireI know you have
16:04.19cladhaireand i can probably import that history
16:04.24cladhairethats the point tho.
16:04.29cladhairewe go any further, and we can't change
16:04.34Temoh
16:04.46hyperChipmunkpow!
16:04.46Temwell, why don't we want to keep it the way it is now?
16:04.59cladhaireBEcause its hard to browse, the password sync script sucks..
16:05.04cladhaireand its tough to do permissinos
16:05.16cladhairethere are advantages to both
16:06.45cladhairewhat are your general feelings?
16:07.28TemI'm cool with it either way
16:07.39cladhairedo you see any advantages of one over the other?
16:08.28TemWith our current setup, I think they will remain cleaner and thus faster longer
16:08.35cladhaireI agree
16:08.45ckknightalso, it seems odd for a new project to have a revision number of 500
16:08.48cladhairebut they're an utter nightmare.. and for peopel to browse and grab all their stuf.. they can't do it... cause of how split up they are.
16:09.16Temthey don't need to browse
16:09.18ckknightwhy are they browsing svn anyway?
16:09.20ckknightthat's a dev thing
16:09.30Tem^^
16:09.34hyperChipmunkI can answer that
16:09.41cladhairethats for them to decide, not you TBH
16:10.04hyperChipmunkbecause 9/10ths of us, our response to people looking for our addons is "use the svn"
16:10.29hyperChipmunkat that point, we've made it no longer a "dev thing"
16:10.46cladhairebecause people make lots of changes and commits without releasing major versions
16:10.50ckknightI don't expect normal users to use the svn
16:11.00cladhaireDefine normal users, cause we have plenty of them who do.
16:11.16hyperChipmunkcan we do a common directory for tags
16:11.18Temonce they fluently use the svn, they are no longer a normal user
16:11.19TainYes and no clad.  The other big reason is there are a lot of unowned addons that are only in SVN right now.  Like most of Rowne's old stuff.
16:11.21ckknightpeople who download from WoWI
16:11.25hyperChipmunkand just force ourself to be more vigilant about doing tags
16:11.46hyperChipmunkthat seems to be the obvious point of compromise
16:11.59ckknightI suppose with the new setup, could we have multiple ownership of addons?
16:12.00hyperChipmunkwe get our dirs
16:12.05cladhaireckknight: Yes.
16:12.08hyperChipmunkwe point users to tags
16:12.09ckknightalright
16:12.19cladhaireWell lets put it this way.. with individual repositories.. I have one password file for every single repo.. and i have to keep those in sync at all times, which is the sick password hack script.
16:12.29hyperChipmunkthat's annoying
16:12.30hyperChipmunkit doesn't work =P
16:12.33ckknightcause I'd want both hyperChipmunk and I to be able to access at least GloryLib
16:12.36cladhaireThey also all have individual access files that have to be updated individually to give authenticated users access
16:12.47cladhaireWith a single repo.. the access and password is all in one file.
16:12.50hyperChipmunki can't do an ls on tek's repos
16:12.52cladhaireAnd I can do groups
16:13.01cladhaire@GloryLibDevs = ckknight, hyperchipmunk
16:13.06ckknightokay
16:13.08cladhaireand then give you guys rw access to that trunk
16:13.13ckknightI say go for it
16:13.19ckknightpiss into the wind and whatnot
16:13.23cladhairelol
16:13.53cladhairebranches ALL authenticated users will have commit access to.. so we can all branch out.
16:14.00Temcladhaire: if it makes managing the whole thing easier, that outweighs the other things IMO
16:14.03cladhairetags will be typically one person.. unles specified otherwise.
16:14.10cladhairetrunk will be as requested by the dev
16:14.23cladhaireckknight: Would you want both you and HC to have tag access for glory?
16:14.27hyperChipmunkno
16:14.32hyperChipmunkI should not have tag access for glory
16:14.38ckknight?
16:14.38TainUpdated VisorGUI up.
16:14.40cladhaireOk
16:14.53cladhaireThe only minor thing you guyw ill have to do.. is you won't be able to create a new project USING svn.
16:15.05hyperChipmunkcuz I don't trust myself to put nonsuckified stuff into other people's projects yet =)
16:15.09cladhaireyou will have to use a web interface to do that.
16:15.19hyperChipmunki can handle that
16:15.22cladhaireSimple and easy.. but that's how it would have to be.
16:15.33cladhaireit'd create the tags and trunks for you
16:15.37cladhaireNEXT question
16:15.59hyperChipmunkmake it easy to script, and we can put something in our ~/bin dirs to make it less scary =)
16:16.00cladhairedo we go http://svn.wowace.com/wow/Ace/{tags,trunk,branches}
16:16.01cladhaireOR
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16:16.17cladhairehttp://svn.wowace.com/wow/tags/Ace, trunk/Ace, branches/Ace
16:16.17cladhaire?
16:16.48cladhairei.e. are tags/trun/branch root level, or under the project?
16:16.51TainI think I like tags, trunk, branches all broken out.
16:17.02hyperChipmunkthe latter is more logical, but the former will keep the users out of our stuff
16:17.08hyperChipmunker,
16:17.10hyperChipmunkother way around
16:17.35cladhaireKael likes tags/trunk/branches underneath the project name.. it seems to make more sense to us.
16:17.37TainI think it makes it easier to point people at tags and only let them look at that.
16:17.37cladhairebut i'm okay with either.
16:17.57TainI think it makes more sense from an individual project point of view to have them under the project name.
16:18.18cladhairethats tthe thing.. theyr'e all so independeant.
16:18.48cladhaireTem, ckknight?  What do you guys think on that?
16:19.00TainYeah, but if you're comparing what you have in trunk to a specific tag, it might be easier to see them together under the project name.
16:19.24hyperChipmunkoh, good point
16:19.31cladhaireIt makes the repositories .. together.
16:19.34cladhaire*nod* Tain
16:19.44cladhairebranch merge, switch operations are all made easier that way
16:19.44TainThinking from the perspective of what I've found myself actually DOING though, most of the actual hands on work goes on under trunk, for everything.
16:19.55cladhaireTain: And it should for a single-dev project.
16:20.04hyperChipmunkdo we still get that nice frontpage thing with the last comment, just with each project instead of each author?
16:20.05cladhaireTain: Multiple devs should branch, change, merge
16:20.08cladhairejust so everythign is tracked.
16:20.25cladhairehyperChipmunk: No, the front page will redirect to the main repo, which shows the last .. and gives you a log
16:20.40Temaww
16:20.42TainYeah of course.
16:20.44TemI liked the front page
16:20.46cladhairei.e. you'll go here first: http://svn.wowace.com/listing.php?repname=Ace&path=%2F&sc=0
16:20.51hyperChipmunkO_o
16:20.54cladhaireand can link to this:
16:20.54cladhairehttp://svn.wowace.com/log.php?repname=Ace&path=%2F&rev=0&sc=0&isdir=1
16:20.58hyperChipmunknp
16:21.02cladhairewhich is better imo
16:21.03hyperChipmunkI just use a bookmark anyway
16:21.19TainI think trunk/branch/tag under each project is the better way to go.
16:21.21hyperChipmunkbut it was quite snazzy
16:21.33TainIt will possibly also help encourage people to actually use tags seeing it right there.
16:21.41TemI think if we have the trunk, tags, ect under the project, it will require an extra directory level
16:21.51cladhaireTem: Why is that?
16:21.52Temfor example
16:22.13Temroot/project/trunk/project/
16:22.19cladhaire*shake*
16:22.22cladhaireroot/project/trunk
16:22.23hyperChipmunkooh
16:22.24Temto keep the folder name right
16:22.29hyperChipmunkhe makes a point!
16:22.30cladhairehrm.l
16:22.32cladhairehrm.
16:22.53hyperChipmunkdarn good one, too
16:22.55hyperChipmunkthat'd be a pain
16:23.08cladhairethat's why i like what we have now.. but it SUCKS
16:23.18hyperChipmunkand it'd destroy the "more logical" advantage of that approach
16:23.38Cairenn(wonders what the reactions will be)
16:23.43Temit makes it harder to browse with the extra directory, but harder to maintain without the extra directory
16:24.02cladhaireCairenn: HAHAHAHAHAHA
16:24.12TainWell I still go back to liking root/trunk/project, root/branch/project as well. :)
16:24.13hyperChipmunkyou KNOW someone's gonna ask about thier "trunk" AddOn
16:24.44Temthough I agree that root/project/trunk makes more sense
16:25.16hyperChipmunkin the meantime..
16:25.16TemCairenn: good lord.  I've never been enough of a dick to put someone on my ignore list, but he's pushing me
16:25.42Cairennyeah, well, I think I just nicely put him in his place :p
16:25.51hyperChipmunkckknight: I think I have glorylib done; I'm now just redoing batfu with it as a sanity test
16:25.58ckknightokay
16:26.15TainAlthough you're going to need subdirs for /tags and /branches no matter what, it's only /trunk that you would save one directory level.
16:26.27cladhaireOk
16:26.41cladhaireso we go with root/tags/project, root/branches/project, etc.
16:26.51ckknightlol, Cairenn
16:26.58Temhehe
16:27.27cladhairewe'll handle the inconvenience of the switching, etc.?
16:27.38cladhairei'll try to work on it.
16:27.38Temwhat inconvenience?
16:27.41cladhairenow the real question
16:27.45cladhairewhats the root's name?
16:27.46cladhaireAce?
16:27.49cladhairewow?
16:27.49Temno
16:27.50cladhaireAddons?
16:27.53cladhaireYourMom?
16:27.54hyperChipmunkchipmunkSVN
16:28.01TainRoot
16:28.05Temroot
16:28.14cladhairewe're going to call it root/
16:28.15cladhaireI can do that.
16:28.22hyperChipmunk=(
16:28.30cladhaireany issue with me leaving the websvn at the http://svn.wowace.com?
16:28.36Temroot/projects/project/trunk
16:28.38cladhaireand just redirecting the open page to the root repository?
16:28.38weabI think I like YourMom.
16:28.40TainI think so, I don't think it has to specify anything as far as wow/ace/etc
16:28.44cladhaireTem: Whoa.. why do w need projects/
16:28.47hyperChipmunkI like your mom, too, weab
16:28.54Tembecuase I'm redundant like that
16:29.02cladhairehaha.
16:29.02cladhaireno =)
16:29.04TainYour mom's redundant on my root
16:29.06weabwe could be one another's stepfathers
16:29.10weabhow awkward would that be
16:29.13cladhairei am my own grandpa
16:30.25TemCairenn: tell dolby nice work on the new bug notifications
16:31.08Cairennwill do
16:31.12Temoh, noes
16:31.20TemI need something to update in Catalyst
16:31.26Temit's about to drop off the list
16:31.31Cairennlol
16:31.36hyperChipmunkmake it cure my raid
16:31.46*** join/#wowace Devla (n=Devla@69.49.158.29)
16:31.52hyperChipmunkit's seriously lacking in that functionality
16:33.45hyperChipmunkanyone have a horde character that can do battlegrounds?
16:33.47cladhaireyeah
16:34.07ckknightI'm my own uncle
16:35.00hyperChipmunkI need to know if the GetWorldStateUIInfo(1) in warsong gulch or arathi basin returns the score string for the alliance all of the time, or your own faction
16:35.25cladhaireyou'll have to give me a minute and camp to my druid
16:35.37hyperChipmunkit takes an index value of 1 or 2, and I'm not sure if it's alliance, horde or us, them
16:35.45hyperChipmunktake as long as you need; no hurry
16:35.53cladhairewhats the usage in the framexml?
16:36.00hyperChipmunkhum
16:36.05hyperChipmunkgood point =)
16:36.07cladhaire=)
16:37.59hyperChipmunkdoh, alliance/horde is part of the function =)
16:38.02hyperChipmunkbut
16:38.05hyperChipmunkmakes the question easier
16:38.16hyperChipmunkis alliance always the top team on the alwaysupframe
16:38.28hyperChipmunki can browse screenshots for that info
16:38.34ckknightyes, hyperChipmunk
16:38.39cladhaireyes they are
16:38.39hyperChipmunkunless you know off the top of your head
16:38.41hyperChipmunkgood deal
16:38.45hyperChipmunkthen alliance is 1
16:38.58hyperChipmunkas it should be >8D
16:39.13ckknight2 > 1
16:39.40TainOne is the lonliest number that you'll ever see.
16:39.55hyperChipmunkit's lonely at the top
16:40.32hyperChipmunkand myn pulls ahead in the cliche fencing!
16:40.35TainThat's because the fun goes on down-low
16:41.05hyperChipmunknumber two is the first loser
16:43.19ckknight2 can be as sad as 1, it's the loneliest number since the number 1
16:44.28weabok you guys are making me all weepy
16:46.14TainThe Summer of Code has begun!
16:46.30Slaymanwhat would u say if i would create a FuBar Addon for the rolls in raids ? ... opinions welcome
16:46.59NeronixWhy not?
16:47.02cladhaireI'm exciting about the summer of code.. given subversino, gallery, freebsd.
16:47.04TemI think there is one already?
16:47.05cladhairelots of good projects
16:47.14Slaymanthat's why i am asking
16:47.17hyperChipmunksubversino? =)
16:47.28cladhaireyep.. spanish for "subversion"
16:47.33hyperChipmunk=D
16:47.36TemI was going to guess Italian
16:47.37TainAnd Cairenn twists the knife a little more. :)
16:47.47hyperChipmunkEl Jalupo Subversino
16:48.16cladhaire=)
16:48.35Temdon't take that crap from him
16:48.38TainOh hey I've been ahead of the curve!  "PLAYING video games can give boys a physical workout that raises their blood pressure and heart rate and burns as many calories as brisk walking or cycling, US researchers say."
16:48.56Temthere are other Dyslexic folks around who knew perfectly well what version of lua we had
16:49.04Tem*cough* me *cough*
16:49.20Temhmm Cairenn?
16:49.40TemThe new bug notification thing is cool, but they don't go away after I've view them
16:49.48Cairennpost it
16:49.59Slaymanu know where to search for that "who rolled what with /rnd and who won" FuBar plugin ?
16:51.09NeronixTekkub posted one on the SVN (There's a topic in the addon collection forum, but there's no downloads there)
16:51.20Neronixbut it's very different from most roll mod implementations
16:51.35Neronixcan't remember what it was like
16:52.21Slaymanthat GreedBeacon is absolutely not what i had in mind with a plugin i want
16:52.44TainEverytime I see GreedBeacon I think Greed Bacon because of Tekkub's image.
16:52.47TainAnd I get hungry.
16:52.55cladhairei agree -(
16:52.56hyperChipmunkthat's the best image ever btw
16:54.27Mikmammm. bacon
16:54.55Mikmatopscorefu shows boss levels as -1 :(
16:56.11cladhairehehe
16:56.49Mikmaso, replacing minimap border ain't that simple as i thought :P
16:57.14TainThe actual graphic for the border?  Takes a bit.
16:57.28Wobin_had a look at Squeenix?
16:57.41Mikmayeap, took the script-piece from it
16:57.51Mikmabut the image wasn't suitable :P
16:57.55Mikmacrashed wow
16:58.34Temoh?
16:58.59Mikmahttp://www.wowtextures.com/gallery2/d/3286-2/AuraRune8.jpg
16:59.04Mikmathis is too large to replace
16:59.30Mikmawhen i resized it down from 256x256 to 192x192 then the game started to crash. the bastard
16:59.41Mikmaand btw gimp is pimp
17:00.09TainI like Gimp a lot.  I still use PhotoShop because I do digital photo work and became used to it.
17:00.42CairennMikma: it needs to be power of 2 is why
17:00.54Cairenn192x192 won't work
17:00.58TainAh hah!  See that, another reason why 2 is better than 1.
17:01.04Cairennif 256 is too large, you need to take it down to 128
17:01.04hyperChipmunklol
17:01.10hyperChipmunkalso of note
17:01.13Mikmaaww crap
17:01.20Mikmathen it will become to small i bet
17:01.32hyperChipmunkwhen you're dealing with GetBattlefieldScores, the faction value returned is 0 for horde and 1 for alliance
17:01.32Mikmaand for some reason MinimapBorder:SetScale didn't work
17:01.38Cairennso what you do instead is you cut it in half
17:01.40Tainhaha
17:01.42Cairennand make 2 of them
17:01.44hyperChipmunk:. horde are zeroes
17:01.46TainWe're number 0!
17:02.05Cairenneach half being 128x128
17:02.46Mikmai have no idea what you're talking about :(
17:03.44hyperChipmunkI have an odd question that's always bugged me
17:03.48hyperChipmunkhow come
17:03.57hyperChipmunklocal numHorde, numAlliance = 0
17:04.06hyperChipmunkresults in numHorde==0 and numAlliance==1
17:04.41TemMikma: gimme a tga version of that file
17:05.41Mikmahttp://www.wowtextures.com/gallery2/d/3286-2/AuraRune8.jpg
17:05.43Tainheh I have a blp of my custom Minimap border and for some reason I can't convert it.
17:06.19TemMikma: that's jpg
17:06.23MikmaTem: if you'll manage to fix that into minimapborder i will eliminate the white strips
17:06.24TemI need tga
17:06.27Mikmahmm baf
17:06.34Mikmahttp://www.wowtextures.com/gallery2/d/3286-2/AuraRune8.tga
17:06.35TemI want to crash wow
17:06.50Mikmawan't the 192x192 .tga? ;)
17:06.55Mikmathat crashes mine
17:07.12Mikmathat 256x256 works but is way too large
17:08.15Temyes, I want the 192x192 tga
17:08.27Mikmai'll upload it
17:08.49cladhaireI need a good bottom texture
17:09.19Mikmamikma.homelinux.net/AuraRune.tga
17:10.08Wobin_<Miravlix> I mostly have to limit myself, because it's a goal of mine that the code is easily modifiable by most lua coders.
17:10.14Wobin_*facepalm*
17:10.23MikmaTem: you'll still gotta remember that i play with mac ;) so it might not crash with pc
17:10.34Tembah
17:11.09Wobin_Way to sound arrogant and insult the majority of people on the channel at the same time =P
17:11.14[MoonWolf]ishara has worked with computers that used punch cards.....]
17:11.21[MoonWolf]:O
17:11.28Wobin_Miravlix is a work of art =P
17:11.49MikmaTem: i used these 2 lines to load the .tga within my addon:
17:11.52Mikma--  MinimapBorder:SetTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\Mikma\\AuraRune")
17:11.52Mikma--  MinimapBorderTop:SetTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\Mikma\\AuraRune")
17:12.43Temdoes nothing on my client
17:13.00Temyou should report it as a mac bug
17:13.19Mikmai'm really hoping it's 1.10 bug which will be fixed in 1.10.1
17:13.59NeronixWould texture replacement cause any performance loss?
17:14.37MikmaTem: and, reporting it in EU forums is as good as not doing it, the twats don't do anything that's reported there
17:14.55Temyou guys haven't had 1.10.1 released yet?
17:15.10Mikmahell no, they had some issues and delayed it for a week
17:15.25Tem><
17:15.42Mikmai was kinda surprised when the game didn't start to take patch
17:15.48Mikmaextended maintenance for nothing
17:16.03Neronixsame here >.<
17:16.32otravithundergot wouldn't answer on why they didn't just slam in 10.1 as fast as possible :(
17:17.00[MoonWolf]thundgot is awesome but he only gets to tell us what blizzard wants us to know.
17:17.01Mikmaeu-forums...
17:17.25[MoonWolf]one on one thundgot would pwn all the us CM's
17:17.34Mikma" Due to some problems with the latest patch it was held back and not applied on the European realms during the maintenance. The problem has now been corrected, but as the maintenance window has passed the patch will be delayed until next week?s maintenance."
17:17.37[MoonWolf]and if that fails, we still have aeus.
17:18.02Mikma"Thank you for your understanding on this matter."
17:18.02[MoonWolf]Inventer of hug a GM day.
17:18.17Mikmayeah sure i understand, hope they can restore my friendlist too :)
17:20.00MikmaTem: btw, did the picture even show in your game?
17:20.01otravi[MoonWolf]: yeh, he is a really nice guy :)
17:20.06Temno
17:20.08otravigave us posters and t-shirts :---D
17:20.22MikmaTem: try the 256x256, it should be visible
17:28.38cladhaireTem: I can import histories fromt he current svn without any issue
17:28.51Temcladhaire: awesome
17:28.56cladhairejust imported your entire svn onto svn.wowace.com/Test
17:29.47[MoonWolf]cladhaire, please leave my svn like it is.
17:29.51cladhaire..
17:29.52cladhairehuh?
17:30.15[MoonWolf]I dont want to loose any changes there.
17:30.19cladhaire.. you won't.
17:30.21cladhairethat's the whole point
17:30.47[MoonWolf]cool
17:30.50[MoonWolf]forget i said anything
17:31.17cladhairei always do =)
17:31.30[MoonWolf]lol
17:31.31Temouch
17:31.42ckknighthyperChipmunk, what's the status on GloryLib?
17:32.40hyperChipmunkfinishing touches =D
17:32.49hyperChipmunkthere's some stuff I'm not sure will work
17:33.03hyperChipmunkbut I think at least you'll be able to get the gist and correct it pretty easily
17:33.33hyperChipmunkBatFu under 600 lines now =x
17:33.57[MoonWolf]moving lines into a lib and then including the lib does not count!
17:34.10ckknightwhy not?
17:34.21hyperChipmunkhehe
17:34.33hyperChipmunkactually, I'm knocking off lines legitimately too
17:34.38hyperChipmunkby the nature of the library API
17:34.39grolldamnit boss u update to often :P
17:34.50hyperChipmunkit's much froodier
17:34.50ckknight<PROTECTED>
17:34.59hyperChipmunkarg, afk
17:35.03Mikmadoes the raid-frames really cause the memory increaserate to rise into roof
17:35.03grollyaya once a week would be better ;P
17:35.07ckknightwhy?
17:35.17grolli have to log out and update :P
17:35.18ckknightyou're saying, "please don't update your addons"
17:35.21grollie not good :P
17:35.27ckknightwhy do you have to log out?
17:35.36grollcrap comp :P
17:35.44ckknightyou know what you can do
17:35.48ckknightjust not pay attention to my mods
17:35.52ckknightthen once a week, update
17:35.55grollhaha no i love them :D
17:36.00grollhave to update :D
17:36.00ckknighthehe
17:36.08ckknightyea, the new version should fix the repositioning issues
17:36.11Mikma75.9KiB/s
17:36.12Mikmayay
17:36.12ckknighttheoretically
17:37.11Cairennwho wrote TouristLib?
17:37.16Cairennthat you ckknight?
17:37.22ckknightyea
17:37.39ckknightwhy?
17:37.49TainMikma are you trying to make the inner circle or the outer circle of that image run against the actual border of the minimap?
17:37.56Cairennokay, just dumped the new fubar and stuff in, did a reload, got this:
17:38.24Cairenn"Interface\AddOns\FuBar_LocationFu\TouristLib.lua:283" table index is nil"
17:38.32ckknight...
17:39.15MikmaTain: don't know yet because i didn't get it positioned, wait a tick i'll look
17:39.15Cairennput the 4 updates in
17:39.30ckknightwoah, that is wrong
17:39.35Cairennfigured you'd want to know
17:39.55Cairennmay be "wrong" but that's the error message I received
17:39.58TainMikma this works for me, just tested.  Inner cicle of the image lines up against the minimap.  http://crushingdreams.com/images/AuraRune.tga
17:40.01MikmaTain: the inner circle
17:40.16TainHard to see though unless it's on a dark background.
17:40.39MikmaTain: thanks, i'll test it now since we wiped at MC entrance haha
17:40.46hyperChipmunkthink I'm done, boss =)
17:40.52hyperChipmunknot tested
17:41.02hyperChipmunkbut I'll at least let you get started
17:41.29hyperChipmunkBatFu is 600 lines exactly =D
17:41.46ckknightlol
17:41.52ckknighthow not tested?
17:42.01hyperChipmunkno battlegrounds today =P
17:42.03hyperChipmunkyet
17:42.20hyperChipmunkglorylib 1326 lines =x
17:43.16grollhmm how hard would it be to write an addon that did a /who to check a certain area for ppl and if more than x amount from the same guild is there announce it. and more than one area ofcourse :D
17:43.21MikmaTain: ZOMG you did it :D
17:44.03MikmaTain: does it require what if i wan't to move the picture 1-2 pixels up?
17:44.29ckknightokay, fixed, Cairenn
17:44.35ckknightno battlegrounds today?
17:44.37ckknighthow come?
17:45.13Neronixjust got an oink.me.uk invite :D
17:45.17ckknight?
17:45.20ckknightwhat's that?
17:45.34Neronixthe best private music BT tracker
17:45.36Neronixand community
17:45.38[MoonWolf]bittorrent file sharing site.
17:45.42ckknightoh
17:45.45ckknightI use TorrentIT
17:45.50ckknightnot for music, though
17:46.09Cairennckknight: no error on reload this time
17:46.12ckknightI can typically get 1.25 MiB/s
17:46.15grolloooh musci torrents hmm i want an invite aswell :P
17:46.18ckknightyea, I wrote loc.k instead of k
17:46.27ckknightit was a search and replace deal I thnik
17:47.03Neronixgroll: You'll need to find someone who's a Power User+ on the site
17:47.13TainMikma what I did was open the original Minimap frame to get the right position, and paste that as a new layer on top of it to match up.
17:47.37MikmaTain: meh, smart :D
17:47.47TainBut you could easily move that position around some, you just have to do it in the image itself, not in the game.
17:47.55grollNeronix become one ;P
17:47.59MikmaTain: do you have the original minimap border as tga somewhere?
17:48.04TainYeah
17:48.07Mikmai might try that out too myself :)
17:48.18hyperChipmunkckknight: I don't control the queues =P
17:48.18Mikmadeleting the stupid stripes and making it a bit more brighter
17:48.28grolli really need a good music place heh i just got crap places to dl from :(
17:48.30ckknighthyperChipmunk, blasphemy!
17:48.41ckknightI'm in a bg now, you can do it too
17:48.58Tainhttp://crushingdreams.com/images/UI-Minimap-Border_orig.tga
17:49.10MikmaTain: thank you *bow*
17:49.32TainYou're welcome!  I did some minimap stuff a while back so I still remember it
17:49.53Mikmawell no wonder then why it happened so fast :)
17:50.36Neronixgroll: will do :P
17:50.44grollNeronix thanks ;P
17:50.47NeronixI need to upload 10gb and be a member for at least 2 weeks
17:50.56TainYeah took me a little bit of learning how it all works
17:51.12Neronixand have a good ratio
17:51.36Mikmayou guys should make a "howto.wowace.com" ;)
17:56.07TainI had done this previously, Mikma for a custom Minimap.  http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4398
17:56.38Mikmaoh yeah, i have tried that
17:59.56hyperChipmunkokay
18:00.02hyperChipmunkBatFu doesn't work at all =)
18:00.04hyperChipmunkbut no errors
18:00.19hyperChipmunkI'll commit what i have
18:01.47hyperChipmunkafter I rerun my password script, that is =P
18:02.42hyperChipmunkdone
18:03.18Mikmawoot! 155KiB/s
18:03.37hyperChipmunkhttp://svn.wowace.com/listing.php?repname=hyperactiveChipmunk&path=%2Ftrunk%2FFuBar_BattlegroundFu%2F#_trunk_FuBar_BattlegroundFu_
18:03.44Mikmasomething's eating up the mem when there's lot's of action on screen
18:04.01ckknightBatFu doesn't work at all?
18:04.08ckknightwtf?
18:04.27hyperChipmunkhttp://svn.wowace.com/hc/trunk/FuBar_BattlegroundFu/
18:04.29hyperChipmunkthere
18:04.30hyperChipmunkuse that link
18:04.33TainWow, the owner of RealDolls, manufacturer of realistic sex dolls, says over half of his customers work in IT or Engineering.
18:04.34hyperChipmunkdude, I'm working on it =(
18:05.09MikmaTain: haha
18:05.39Wobin_Tain: hehe
18:06.42hyperChipmunkyou either get it now, or give me some time to debug
18:07.18hyperChipmunkif you don't want to look at it, you don't have to, but I figure you can at least start unsucking some of my code
18:08.48ckknighthyperChipmunk, you don't have the creature yell event?
18:09.01hyperChipmunkoh, right
18:09.16hyperChipmunkit's the same as horde and alliance though
18:09.31hyperChipmunkoh, I know why BatFu doesn't work
18:09.47hyperChipmunkcuz I didn't do any event stuff =)
18:10.04hyperChipmunki mean
18:10.06hyperChipmunkI did it in glorylib
18:10.14hyperChipmunkI just didn't set batfu up to receive it
18:11.08hyperChipmunkevents.CHAT_MONSTER_YELL = events.CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE
18:11.33ckknightyou never register it
18:11.54hyperChipmunkok, add that too =P
18:12.00hyperChipmunklike i said, no bg's today
18:13.11ckknightI don't get your comment style
18:13.22TainThis guy is going to have a real bad time in prison.  30 year old guy broke into a house and tried to attack a 9 year old girl and the whooped up on him because she'd been studying Judo.
18:14.07ckknightsee, that's why you gotta take chloroform with you
18:14.09hyperChipmunkoh, searching for ---- gives me the subcategories of comments
18:14.13hyperChipmunker, code
18:14.17MikmaTain: HAHA! that's cool
18:14.47hyperChipmunk-- major categories (in this case, wherever my stuff is inserted)
18:15.50hyperChipmunklemee alone =( I'm doin' my best
18:20.08MikmaShyva: yo dude, you here?
18:20.13id`wheeee
18:20.16id`ium doing wsg again
18:20.25Shyvayea, I'm here
18:20.33[MoonWolf]id`, playing wow again ?
18:21.33id`yes
18:21.38id`^^
18:21.43MikmaShyva: there's a little spam-bug with magmadar on bigwigs
18:21.54Shyvayou got the newest version?
18:22.13Mikmayeah i think so, downloaded it yesterday after tekkub submitted the new one
18:22.46Shyvadid lucifron spam?
18:22.58MikmaShyva: didn't notice, wasn't that close
18:22.58id`heh horde won \o/
18:23.48Shyvahmhm
18:24.00MikmaShyva: need a screenie?
18:24.22Shyvanope, I know what you mean, I thought I fixed it yesterday night...
18:24.42Mikmawait a tick i'll check the time i changed BW
18:24.58hyperChipmunkargh, I whacked things up bad =\
18:25.03MikmaToday, 3:02AM :D
18:25.20ShyvaHmm, Mikma, I found the bug.
18:25.21ckknightyea, hyperChipmunk, I can already see some API changes that'll be made
18:25.27Shyvafixed it now..
18:25.36MikmaShyva: goodie :)
18:26.29ShyvaTekkub, are you here?
18:29.01MikmaShyva: btw this is full mc-run so i will be testing out every boss :)
18:29.49Shyvacool, I tested every thing except Major and Rag (I'm pretty sure I made some mistakes there..)
18:30.19Mikmabtw i wondered about the timexbar on magmadar
18:30.35Mikmait started from 30 but still it hit something like -3 before he AoE feared
18:31.22ShyvaHmm, maybe I should make the bar 33 sec then.. the problem is, sometimes he fears in 31... sometimes in 30, sometimes in 32...
18:31.56MikmaShyva: so it changes.. ok then i think i saw correctly him fearing once with 0 too :)
18:32.34Shyva:-)
18:36.11hyperChipmunkdoh, duh
18:36.23hyperChipmunkok, problem isn't as bad as I feared =)
18:39.29hyperChipmunkaha
18:39.31hyperChipmunkit all works again
18:40.15hyperChipmunkremember that stuff I asked about the german client yesterday?  I took out the localization, but didn't change all the places in the code where it referred to it
18:40.36hyperChipmunkand two self:GetBGAcronyms that needed to be glory:GetBGAcronyms
18:42.49ckknightlol
18:43.13ckknightso it works?
18:44.05hyperChipmunkcommitted =)
18:44.35hyperChipmunknow if I could get into a bg to test the in-bg stuff =P
18:49.07ckknightI'll wait
18:49.18ckknightI'd rather have a workable base to work off of
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19:13.02ckknightwell, pretty much, just tell me when you've done a bg that you're confident in your GloryLib changes
19:13.08ckknightthen I'll hake it up to the extreme
19:13.10ckknighthack*
19:14.17MikmaShyva: change the text "AoE Fear" -> "AoE Fear in about"
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19:21.24Shyvatoo long imo...
19:21.33Mikmao'rly? ;)
19:21.48Shyvay'rly! no'wai? ya'wai!
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19:22.03hyperChipmunkalrighty; but I insist you stop that join/quit crap; it's quite annoying >8)
19:22.47Mikmawell geddon worked propably like it should
19:23.01Mikmaonly displayd who's the bomb and who got me killed
19:25.13ckknight_anyone have an idea why my connection would keep disconnecting? I'm not getting DOS'd...
19:25.19ckknight_and everything is laggy
19:25.27Mikmaporn porn porn
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19:30.41MikmaTain: btw, why are the AuraRune.tga tilted in different position than the original minimap border?
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19:38.00ckknightblasted cable company.
19:38.00ckknightit's not my server's fault
19:38.03ckknightI'm not getting DOS'd
19:38.09ckknighttherefore, it must be the cable company
19:41.40hyperChipmunkalien energy rays
19:41.45Mikmazap
19:41.52hyperChipmunkpew
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19:43.32Mikmagod damn, i need ignore list for heals
19:44.12ckknight?
19:44.41Mikmayeah :D "if the person is blacklisted, do not heal"
19:45.08hyperChipmunkyea, that's productive
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19:50.53Shyvahttp://www.partingvisions.com/onywipe/onyxiawipe.swf it's damn funny xD
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19:52.16id`Darn I think I want a little too far with checking out new AddOns
19:52.22id`now have 54 AddOns lol :<
19:52.35Shyvaheh
19:52.38Mikmathat's minimum ;)
19:52.43id`(and i already had 100MB RAM left and 20 FPS MAX)
19:52.59id`used to use only 16MB of ram with all ym addons :>
19:53.25id`o wellll fubar check-out goodness time stuff
19:54.17Shyvabtw, I need some help with Visor, I got this button which does Ace:print("click") OnClick, how can I make that work with the hotkey bound to it?
19:55.03Mikmaheh, from key config ;)
19:55.29Mikma(i really don't know, haven't used visor)
19:55.43hyperChipmunkit's in there
19:55.46hyperChipmunkAction Button X
19:56.01Shyvawell, if I pres the key it doesn't execute the OnClick code.. :-S
19:56.10id`Hey im only using 23MB now >_o
19:56.52Mikmai'm using 24MiB+ and i'm raiding MC :)
19:57.01Mikmawith my rogue i have 16MiB max
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19:58.06Boss_grr...
19:58.23Shyvayou need more clones ckknight, ckknight_, ckknight__, Boss_ ?
19:58.49Mikmahow am i supposed to know which PPC processor i have, 5 or 6 :(
19:58.54Boss_yea
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20:05.02hyperChipmunkBatFu still bzorks wow
20:06.50NeronixShyva: lmfao
20:06.58Neronixwas that a recordign from a real raid?
20:07.24hyperChipmunkwell, I guess we can say GloryLib bzorks wow
20:07.38hyperChipmunkon a CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE
20:08.19Shyvayep it is Neronix, not my guild ofc, some guild on Chrommagus EU
20:08.42Shyvathe recording is getting old, but the animation is new ^_-
20:09.24NeronixI see
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20:11.25ckknight_bzorks?
20:11.39ckknight_my code was working for CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE
20:11.41hyperChipmunkfatal exception
20:11.48hyperChipmunkso was mine!
20:11.59hyperChipmunkgoin through it now
20:12.04ckknight_link?
20:12.28ckknight_nvm
20:12.28ckknight_got it
20:12.28hyperChipmunkI'll pastebin what it looks like
20:12.39hyperChipmunkcrap, I missed wsg while I was dealing with the error =(
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20:17.52ckknight__maybe it was a fluke?
20:18.02hyperChipmunkit happened 3 times
20:18.30hyperChipmunkexactly corresponding to a sound queue that accompanies a battlefield objective message
20:18.43hyperChipmunkin both wsg and ab
20:19.06ckknight__did you send a report in to blizzard?
20:19.30hyperChipmunkyea, I send those everytime I crash
20:19.44ckknight__hrm
20:19.56ckknight__okay, have you thought about commenting out certain portions of code?
20:20.01hyperChipmunkI'm doing that
20:20.07hyperChipmunkwaiting for next bg =)
20:20.16ckknight__okay
20:20.35hyperChipmunkthat one ended before I got a chance to do anything about it
20:20.48hyperChipmunkand wsg popped while I was d/c
20:21.23hyperChipmunknow I'm waiting out a deserter debuff cuz I d/c'ed from the bg
20:22.04ckknight__ah
20:22.10ckknight__that sucks'
20:22.12ckknight__it really does
20:22.27ckknight__I think they should only do that if you /afk out, not if you d/c
20:22.28hyperChipmunkthere really ought to be a better way to test battleground code
20:22.49ckknight__yea
20:22.49ckknight__or just a better API to start off with
20:22.56hyperChipmunkwell that's the thing
20:23.14hyperChipmunkthe worst-APIed part of the game is the one that's hardest to debug
20:23.37ckknight__yea
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20:24.04ckknight__hrm, haven't d/c'd in like 10 minutes now...
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20:30.32hyperChipmunk=x
20:33.35Mikmaaww fuck :( os x won't let me install x11 since it thinks i have never version installed
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20:52.26ShyvaMikma, are the mods working good? ^^
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20:54.38Jagobahhappy happy birthday ( '-')
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21:01.01MikmaShyva: so far so good
21:02.02Shyvawhere are you know? :-d
21:02.14Mikmawiped at domo
21:02.19Mikmathis is something new really
21:02.31Shyvaok :-)
21:02.41Mikmathis is normally a fast run but we have wiped too many times already
21:02.49ShyvaHmm, sucks..
21:03.32Mikmawell we have something like 5 non-guildies with us atm :P so 34 guildmembers and nobody seems to care about anything
21:03.42Shyvawe had yesterday some bad luck.. the main tank was one day off, and then left bindings droped... the only thing he still needs :-|
21:03.51Mikmathe day we got the 5h bwl run completed everyone lost interest
21:05.31Mikmawell, i'm installing X11 and watching orange county choppers at the same time :)
21:05.53ckknightlol, this is great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHt5USBMxkc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Freligiousfreaks%2Ecom%2F
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21:07.50hyperChipmunklooks like it doesn't crash with your code commented out, boss =x
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21:14.38ckknight__hyperChipmunk, I really doubt my code is the problem
21:14.38ckknight__what happens if you comment out your part?
21:14.56hyperChipmunktrying that next; fixing some typos while I'm not crashing
21:15.11ckknight__okay
21:15.17ShyvaI lol'd ckknight__ (at that movie xD)
21:15.35ckknight__yea
21:15.38ckknight__pretty funny
21:15.49Mikmawoot i can't believe this, i really got X11 installed ;)
21:15.57MikmaGimp pimp here i come rofl
21:16.18ckknight__lol
21:17.08hyperChipmunkk, my stuff commented
21:17.09hyperChipmunkyour stuff not
21:18.15hyperChipmunk=D the scoreboard stuff works
21:18.28Mikmahey, is the BG scoreboard fixed already?
21:18.33Mikmain 1.9 it was too small
21:18.45ckknight__?
21:18.56Mikmayeah, the finishing scoreboard
21:20.23Mikmait was like 50% too small and half of the texts were outside the window
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21:20.56hyperChipmunk=x no crash w/o your stuff
21:21.01hyperChipmunker, w/o my stuff
21:21.20hyperChipmunkuncommenting both again O_o
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21:27.17id`who here plays on EU and wants to play together? ill make a new char.
21:27.27id`I want a fresh start.
21:27.35ckknightsorry, US here
21:27.40Eraphinehrm.
21:27.41ckknightfresh starts are nice
21:27.46id`yea
21:27.47Mikma<- EU Nordrassil
21:27.52Eraphinedoes visor support different profiles?
21:28.02id`Eraphine: Ace supports it
21:28.03id`;)
21:28.09id`Mikma: horde/alliance
21:28.23Mikmaalliance
21:28.28Mikmait's pve :P
21:28.31id`Ive been wanting to make a priest
21:28.33id`Mikma: thats ok
21:29.05Mikmai've got a lvl31 rogue that i'm leveling now :)
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21:30.05id`female elf priest, how about that :o
21:30.17ckknightelves are icky
21:30.19Mikmameh, i already have one ;)
21:30.49Mikmait's my main in nordrassil
21:31.58Mikma"Impossible, stay your attack, mortals!"
21:32.10hyperChipmunklol, no crashes
21:32.19ckknightlol
21:32.25hyperChipmunkwtf
21:32.31hyperChipmunkfreaking gnomes
21:32.44id`Now I need a name; Mishani, Kaiku, Faelivrin, Lucia <-- any good one in there?
21:33.04hyperChipmunkmy battlefield objective table isn't being created
21:33.05hyperChipmunkhm
21:33.26Mikmahmm i have used "Misha" name in other server once ;) But Lucia is pretty
21:34.01Mikmalucia already exists :P
21:35.17id`Mikma: you name stealer, you tried it before me :(
21:35.20id`:p
21:35.50ckknightfor female names, I try to stick with m or soft g sounds
21:36.32Mikmala-la-la-laaaagforce
21:38.11id`named here Esya
21:38.13id`her*
21:38.52Mikmarofl, for some wicked reason i see almost every item i have as "repair cost: 3s" :D
21:39.08Mikma6x Runecloths have 4c repair
21:39.12Mikmasorry not silver, copper
21:40.34ckknightodd
21:40.39ckknightnot my fault :-P
21:40.52Mikmaohly happens when i have merchant window open
21:41.17hyperChipmunkcrash in wsg =(
21:41.40Mikmamerchant window + repair item selected and i see weird prices :D
21:44.22hyperChipmunkno crash without your code
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21:44.49ckknight_idea:
21:44.55Mikmai like it
21:44.59Mikma;D
21:44.59ckknight_what if you disable BatFu, but still have GloryLib run?
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21:51.06ckknight_this disconnecting bit is starting to piss me off
21:51.37Mikmai bet your sending \n somewhere to chat xD
21:51.47hyperChipmunkcrash
21:53.13ckknight_these are crashing with fatal exceptions?
21:53.22hyperChipmunkyes
21:53.22ckknight_or freezes followed by d/c's?
21:53.24ckknight_hrm
21:53.28ckknight_weird...
21:53.35hyperChipmunkgoin to your code only, no batfu
21:54.06hyperChipmunkcrash
21:54.30ckknight_crash with what?
21:54.39hyperChipmunkmy code commented out
21:54.44Mikmaoh btw i had some interesting crashes with 3rd party textures when 1.10 came out
21:54.47hyperChipmunkGloryLib running through HonorFu
21:54.52hyperChipmunkBattlegroundFu not loaded
21:55.07hyperChipmunkdoing sections of your code now
21:55.41Mikmaare you using extra images?
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21:56.27Mikmamy game crashed when i downloaded mg2.62 and tried it out in silithus
21:56.39Mikmaeverytime a druid moonfired me my game crashed and i died :)
21:56.47hyperChipmunkactually, doing the same with BatFu enabled and HonorFu disabled first
21:57.43hyperChipmunkno crash
21:57.48hyperChipmunkthe problem is in HonorFu
21:58.11ckknight__...
21:58.20hyperChipmunkyep
21:58.34hyperChipmunkuncommented everything
21:58.35ckknight__well, I can't work on it now, cause of the disconnecting
21:58.48ckknight__if you can find the bug, that'd be cool
21:58.57hyperChipmunkdoin what I can
21:59.13hyperChipmunkI do have a match going too =)
21:59.33hyperChipmunkcrap, nope
21:59.44hyperChipmunkI had BatFu disabled on the bar =x
21:59.54hyperChipmunkenabled it, crash again
22:00.05ckknight__...
22:00.11ckknight__what about just HonorFu?
22:00.19hyperChipmunkcrashes
22:00.27ckknight__what about neither HonorFu nor BatFu
22:00.31ckknight__just GloryLib as its own addon
22:00.46hyperChipmunkthat's gonna have to wait for a new match
22:01.04hyperChipmunkI'm not set up that way
22:01.18ckknight__you could comment out all of BatFu or something
22:01.20ckknight__temporarily
22:01.26hyperChipmunkand I think we'll win before I get back in
22:01.32ckknight__hrm
22:01.54hyperChipmunkdone; we'll see
22:02.15hyperChipmunktoo late
22:02.20ckknight__hrm
22:02.31hyperChipmunkwe'll see next match
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22:29.59Shyvahttp://ace.pastebin.com/662218, when I open the mainframe, none of the buttons / art show up, anyone can see what I did wrong? :-S
22:31.20Shyva.. The art does show up now.. now the buttons :-S
22:34.48Shyvan/m ^^ found it ;p
22:35.29Shyvaor not :-|
22:39.46ShyvaIs there any ways to set "inherits" with a lua function? :-/
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22:47.20ckknightingerits?
22:47.21hyperChipmunkI don't believe so
22:47.24ckknightinherits*
22:47.26ckknightwhat do you mean?
22:47.35hyperChipmunkfor a CreateFrame
22:47.36hyperChipmunkI thnk
22:47.59kergoththere isnt a way. someone was working on a lib to facilitate that sort of thing
22:48.41Shyvackknight, this -> inherits="GameMenuButtonTemplate"
22:49.34ckknightah, no
22:49.51ckknighti wish
22:50.08Shyvaso I need to make a button exactly like GameMenuButtonTemplate to get the same? what a waste :-|
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22:53.27ckknightany more prospects on what's happening with the crashes?
22:54.53hyperChipmunkwill let you know next time I get in a bg
22:55.19hyperChipmunkthey're all separate now, though
22:56.37pagefaultweeee
22:56.53JagobahI have a really noob question.  I'm trying to make a macro that activates a trinket if the cooldown is up, and if it isn't, use an item in my inventory.  I'm looking at http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetInventoryItemCooldown and I can't seem to figure out the logic in using the returned "duration" variable.  Any suggestions?
22:58.46ckknightyou'd want to check if duration == 0
22:58.53ckknightthen use a trinket
22:59.00ckknightotherwise use the other thing
23:00.01kergothShyva: someone is working on a templating system done in lua.  dont remember who though.
23:00.29ckknightTekkub?
23:00.38Shyvaheh, okay
23:01.14Shyvawhy cann't Soulken just make a func like SetInherit and GetInherit... :-S
23:01.27ckknightSlouken
23:01.28ckknightit's hard
23:01.38ckknightcause it's normally done by xml parsing
23:01.49hyperChipmunkcuz you're going from XML->...right
23:02.14ckknighttemplates don't "exist" after the xml has been parsed
23:02.39Shyvahmz, I don't really have a lot of other coding knowlade, so I belive you :P
23:03.22ckknightwell, my disconnecting issues seem to be alleved
23:03.38Jagobahthe macro I banged out was this:
23:03.44Jagobah/script if GetInventoryItemCooldown("player",GetInventorySlotInfo("Trinket1Slot")) then UseInventoryItem(14); else UseContainerItem(0,1); end;
23:03.53JagobahHow could I put a duration logic check in there?
23:06.44ckknightwhat does GetInventoryItemCooldown return?
23:08.56ckknightokay
23:08.58ckknightthis is simple
23:09.18ckknight<PROTECTED>
23:10.33pagefaulthey kergoth you around?>
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23:15.12pfaultugh
23:20.36Jagobahok I'll try that out
23:22.20Jagobahahh thanks it works!  I forgot you needed two equals signs :P
23:24.50hyperChipmunkin ab
23:25.04hyperChipmunkhonorfu batfu off
23:25.13hyperChipmunkglorylib up and kickin
23:25.34kergothdangit, aftt_extreme is nice, but it doesnt handle positioning of non-unit tooltips, seemingly.  and tipster doesnt work properly anymore
23:25.45kergothMikma: what are you using for tooltip stuff?
23:26.18ckknightalright
23:26.38ckknightI just found a bug in the weekend calculator code
23:26.41ckknightfixed it on my end
23:26.42kergothpagefault: am now, whats up
23:26.56pagefaultdon't mean to be annoying but svk back?
23:27.29hyperChipmunkcrash when I turned BatFu on
23:27.50hyperChipmunkthat's messed up
23:27.58kergothpagefault, yep, http://kergoth.com/svn/wow/trunk/KergothWOWBits
23:30.12kergothpagefault, switching from tipbuddy to aftt_extreme greatly reduced our ram usage. we're now at like 27 on login.  aftt isnt managing non-unit tooltips though, they're showing up in the corner rather than at the mouse, which annoys me
23:30.13kergothheh
23:30.58hyperChipmunk!
23:31.10hyperChipmunkI think everything but the crash works now =D
23:32.17hyperChipmunkand the sort
23:33.13Mikmakergoth: aftt extreme 0.4b with my own 3D mod, why?
23:34.22kergothjust wondering.  /me wants his non-unit tooltips to follow the mouse, dangit
23:35.05Mikmathat's interesting, normally people wan't those tooltips to dock and units to follow
23:36.12TainI don't want any to follow, and all to dock.
23:36.21Mikmasame here
23:36.31Mikmaeverything's docked to bottomright
23:36.37Mikmawhere the original tooltip is
23:36.41TainOh I dock mine top center though.
23:36.42Mikmathe 0.4b has that feature
23:36.44TainI like them all right there.
23:36.59kergothwhat tooltip addon are you using, tain?
23:37.27pagefaultok
23:37.28pagefaultthanks
23:37.34kergothnp
23:37.47TainWas using Tip Buddy and Tipster.
23:38.04kergothi've used tipbuddy for ages, but its a bit of a hog
23:38.33kergothand tipster doesnt seem to be able to relocate the tooltips when mousing over itemrack icons for some reason
23:38.34kergothhmm
23:38.40pagefaultyour connection seems much faster now
23:39.00kergothcause its not mine :)
23:39.08kergothno longer hyperion on a cable modem line
23:39.08pagefaulthaha
23:39.16kergothits a remote VM, ala linode
23:39.17pagefaultit's much faster anyway :)
23:39.32pagefaultI was wondering when you got a T3 at home
23:39.36kergothhehe
23:40.25kergoth16 of the addons in the set are disabled by default, either due to being special purpose or due to being class specific. so be sure to check the addons list before playing
23:40.59kergothpagefault, you tried http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1319.0.html ?
23:41.13MikmaTain: i'm making my own picture for the minimap now :) removing useless "fog" from the picture too
23:42.19kergothhmm, itemrack uses gametooltip, wonder why tipster doesnt override its positioning.  /me looks at the tipster code
23:42.48pagefaultnot yet
23:42.55pagefaultI use keyboard shortcuts for everything
23:43.18pagefaultI guess the timers could be useful
23:43.20pagefaulti'll check it out
23:44.07grolltain u here?
23:44.25hyperChipmunkwith your code commented out, AV seems to work completely now
23:45.10grollor anyone else know stuff about visorgui
23:47.31Tainin and about sometimes
23:49.08hyperChipmunkwsg still crashes
23:49.09hyperChipmunkhm
23:52.25Mikmayay the picture is done
23:52.29Mikmanow let's see does it work
23:53.39grolloh sorry tain missed ya there :P but about tha visorgui, could i for example grab the map frame and remodel it to a square or such?
23:54.39TainNope groll, you can't do anything like that.  You can only resize it, you can't change the shape of it.
23:55.02TainTo do that you have to apply a custom-made texture graphic file which is what Mikma is actually working on right now. :)
23:56.17pagefaultkergoth, for some reason I still see the original frames
23:56.26pagefaultany way to turn those off or should I just use visor to hide them
23:59.47kergothminigroup2 isnt hiding them automatically? i'd just use visor to hide em myself

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