| 00:00.14 | Andreas__ | I noticed a Fubar bug |
| 00:00.14 | ckknight | what's that? |
| 00:00.24 | Andreas__ | when you scale the screen, sometimes it will have too much space towards the left and right edges of the screen |
| 00:00.40 | Andreas__ | and you can't fix it unless you create a new panel and destroy the old |
| 00:00.54 | ckknight | you can drag an edge to resize it |
| 00:01.14 | ckknight | and I fixed the scaling issues |
| 00:01.19 | ckknight | for resolution change |
| 00:01.23 | ckknight | and such |
| 00:01.42 | Andreas__ | yeah, just noticed the edge dragging, that should be a good way |
| 00:01.44 | Andreas__ | thanks |
| 00:02.06 | ckknight | shat do you mean scale the screen? |
| 00:02.19 | Andreas__ | Video settings, set scale |
| 00:02.25 | ckknight | oh |
| 00:02.28 | ckknight | thought I fixed that... |
| 00:02.34 | Andreas__ | I might be using an old version |
| 00:02.38 | HoJ|Slayman | ckknight: mail is sent |
| 00:03.13 | Andreas__ | I'm using 0.9.10.245 (from the TOC) |
| 00:03.16 | ckknight | Andreas__, what version are you using? |
| 00:03.20 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:03.43 | ckknight | well, I thought I fixed it before that... |
| 00:03.58 | ckknight | either way, I can't reproduce it, I just changed my scale and it resized properly |
| 00:04.41 | Andreas__ | I can't remember the specifics, if it ever happens again I'll notice what triggered it |
| 00:04.45 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:05.21 | Andreas__ | Oh, I remember the old versions getting updated by SVN |
| 00:05.46 | Andreas__ | This time though, I get no tortoise logos on the directories |
| 00:06.46 | ckknight | HoJ|Slayman, you in WoW now? |
| 00:06.56 | HoJ|Slayman | actually yeah |
| 00:07.04 | ckknight | type in /script FuBar:Reset() |
| 00:07.15 | ckknight | after that, I'm hoping it fixes your issues |
| 00:07.20 | HoJ|Slayman | gimme a sec |
| 00:07.29 | ckknight | the old versions did something strange to the savedvars |
| 00:07.57 | Mikma | freaking wednesday come soon |
| 00:08.18 | ckknight | it's Friday... |
| 00:08.24 | HoJ|Slayman | so if i arrange, scale and do wierd stuff to em they'll stay ? |
| 00:08.26 | Mikma | i know :( |
| 00:08.36 | Mikma | saturday in here but... |
| 00:08.51 | Mikma | blizz was gay and delayed the 1.10.1 patch in eu for 1 week |
| 00:08.56 | Mikma | i wan't my crashfixes |
| 00:09.04 | Mikma | i wanna add my friends back to friendlist :( |
| 00:09.16 | Mikma | and change the minimap texture to something much more porn |
| 00:09.34 | Neronix | Sorry otravi, but the stream's unwatchable :( |
| 00:10.41 | ckknight | theoretically, HoJ|Slayman |
| 00:10.47 | ckknight | well, I need you to test it and make sure |
| 00:12.04 | otravi | Neronix: aaw :( |
| 00:12.11 | otravi | starting to gather up a zerg behind us :( |
| 00:12.28 | ckknight | Andreas__, found the scaling issue, fixed |
| 00:12.43 | Andreas__ | so there was one? ^^ |
| 00:12.50 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:13.01 | Andreas__ | how did you find it again |
| 00:13.03 | ckknight | I was comparing a cvar to 0 instead of to "0" |
| 00:13.05 | ckknight | magic! |
| 00:13.23 | Andreas__ | Well that's great :) |
| 00:13.26 | Andreas__ | anyway you |
| 00:13.33 | Andreas__ | you're not using SVN for FuBar? |
| 00:13.41 | ckknight | svn://ckknight.hopto.org/FuBar/ |
| 00:13.46 | Andreas__ | Thanks |
| 00:13.56 | ckknight | that has all the plugins I wrote and such in it as well |
| 00:14.23 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, how's GloryLib coming along? |
| 00:14.51 | Mikma | http://tinyurl.com/s85xj or http://tinyurl.com/m4l49 .. haven't decided yet |
| 00:15.21 | Mikma | http://tinyurl.com/rendf this may be too much |
| 00:15.45 | Andreas__ | btw, ckknight |
| 00:15.54 | ckknight | yea? |
| 00:16.01 | Andreas__ | is it possible to have a module added to the svn |
| 00:16.12 | ckknight | Mikma, star of david? |
| 00:16.21 | ckknight | Andreas__, well my svn is "special" |
| 00:16.38 | Mikma | ckknight: what's that? |
| 00:16.39 | ckknight | Andreas__, it automatically updates versions, changelogs, and packages it for release |
| 00:16.50 | ckknight | Mikma, in the last one, there's a star of david in the center |
| 00:17.14 | Mikma | oh... well it's still gonna be hidden under the minimap or so :P |
| 00:17.16 | Andreas__ | sounds nice |
| 00:17.53 | Mikma | since 1.10 gave us the chance to change minimaps texture without addons i'm going to try it when 1.10.1 hits eu servers |
| 00:17.54 | ckknight | Andreas__, so I could theoretically put one up |
| 00:18.12 | Andreas__ | Well, it is kinda complete and very simple |
| 00:18.15 | ckknight | but I'd rather keep it for me |
| 00:18.41 | Andreas__ | I wouldn't want to use the SVN myself |
| 00:18.45 | ckknight | ah |
| 00:18.51 | Andreas__ | it was more like handing it over to you |
| 00:19.00 | ckknight | handing what over? |
| 00:19.10 | Andreas__ | my tiny module |
| 00:19.43 | ckknight | what is it? |
| 00:20.05 | Andreas__ | it is a replacement for WorldStateFrame, the one that shows on the top middle of the screen in a battleground |
| 00:20.12 | Mikma | hmm someone should register http://www.worlfofporncraft.com/ ;D |
| 00:20.26 | ckknight | worlf? |
| 00:20.30 | Mikma | whops |
| 00:20.34 | Mikma | typo++ |
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| 00:21.20 | ckknight | Andreas__, I dunno, kinda obseleted with the new BatFu stuff hyperChipmunk's working on |
| 00:21.46 | Andreas__ | Can I see it? What's the goal of that addon you're mentioning? |
| 00:22.01 | ckknight | BattlegroundFu |
| 00:22.14 | ckknight | it has a lot of shiny Battleground-related features |
| 00:22.36 | Andreas__ | I made mine because battlegroundFu did not replace worldstateframe... Only the killing blows |
| 00:22.57 | ckknight | worldstateframe shows like the flag status and whatnot, right? |
| 00:22.59 | Mikma | Minimap:SetMaskTexture("file") -- Set the texture for the minimap mask |
| 00:23.05 | Mikma | yeah there it is :) |
| 00:23.17 | Andreas__ | ckknight, yeah, it's the frame where flags flashes in WSG, or lists score in AB |
| 00:23.25 | Andreas__ | and bases captured |
| 00:23.31 | ckknight | yea, BatFu kinda obseletes that |
| 00:23.52 | ckknight | least I think so |
| 00:24.14 | ckknight | either way, it will show the names of who has the flag and whatnot, and the status of bases and such |
| 00:25.12 | Neronix`sleep | night |
| 00:25.17 | ckknight | cya |
| 00:25.50 | Andreas__ | I guess I'll just contine using it myself then |
| 00:25.55 | Andreas__ | but it got flashing flags and all! |
| 00:25.57 | Andreas__ | :P |
| 00:26.14 | ckknight | I don't need the responsibility of another addon |
| 00:26.32 | ckknight | especially one I wouldn't use |
| 00:26.33 | ckknight | sorry |
| 00:26.41 | Andreas__ | It's no problem :P |
| 00:27.25 | ckknight | I absolutely can't seem to reproduce the rearranging deal |
| 00:29.00 | ckknight | HoJ|Slayman, after doing reset, do you still have the issue? |
| 00:29.23 | HoJ|Slayman | on a reload they stay where they are supposed to be |
| 00:29.30 | HoJ|Slayman | need to relog once to confirm |
| 00:29.42 | ckknight | okay |
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| 00:47.56 | otravi | yay, we didn't wipe btw :) |
| 01:01.18 | ckknight | wipe? |
| 01:07.44 | otravi | we did Twin Emps on a big screen here |
| 01:18.07 | HoJ|Slayman | ckknight: everything appears to be fine, thx for naming that method and good night @ all |
| 01:40.16 | ckknight | clad|afk, can I get an svn repository on wowace? |
| 01:50.42 | ckknight | hey Cairenn |
| 01:50.48 | Cairenn | hey |
| 02:00.13 | ckknight | well, I've figured out svn:externals to be able to link libraries |
| 02:00.24 | ckknight | the problem is, it only works on directories, not on files |
| 02:01.48 | ckknight | I also figured out how to add the current version and such to the README.txt and lua files |
| 02:05.01 | ckknight | clad|afk, I need you, *snifF* |
| 02:23.03 | Tain | I wrote a new AuraCheck function to scan for a buff, I'll leave AuraScan because people use it but wanted something a lot simpler. |
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| 02:48.58 | hyperChipmunk | darnit |
| 02:49.02 | hyperChipmunk | i fell asleep again |
| 02:59.31 | ckknight | sleep is bad! |
| 02:59.34 | ckknight | ~sleep |
| 02:59.36 | purl | [sleep] overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine. |
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| 03:38.36 | Kaelten | hey guys |
| 03:39.04 | Kaelten | clad|afk, you around? |
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| 03:40.13 | hyperChipmunk | =P |
| 03:40.20 | Kaelten | lol |
| 03:40.45 | Kaelten | kergoth, I'm having a hard time getting your class code to work. |
| 03:48.57 | ckknight | "If my ear were a vagina, I could have sex with myself" |
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| 04:13.04 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: that's beautiful |
| 04:13.06 | hyperChipmunk | thanks for sharing |
| 04:15.44 | ckknight | it's from Penn & Teller: Bullshit |
| 04:15.53 | hyperChipmunk | sure it is |
| 04:16.01 | ckknight | yea, episode 104 |
| 04:58.21 | Kaelten | tem: got an error in that new mod of yers |
| 04:58.50 | Tem | what version? |
| 04:59.10 | Tem | it was possible to get an error in version 1.0.2 I think |
| 04:59.20 | Tem | er, maybe it was 1.0.3 |
| 04:59.22 | Tem | not sure |
| 04:59.30 | Tem | upgrade to 1.1.0 and you shouldn't get any |
| 05:00.15 | Kaelten | Catalyst.lua:76: attempt to call a nil value |
| 05:00.15 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:00.18 | Kaelten | that one ? |
| 05:00.58 | Kaelten | and there is something weird going on with kergoth's class code? |
| 05:09.18 | Tem | Kaelten: yeah, upgrade to 1.1.0 |
| 05:12.11 | hyperChipmunk | try using nFLT with Catalyst |
| 05:12.13 | hyperChipmunk | I hear that works |
| 05:14.09 | weab | nflt didn't do anything to my load times |
| 05:14.23 | hyperChipmunk | i was kidding |
| 05:14.31 | hyperChipmunk | ~bait Tem |
| 05:14.59 | ckknight | mmm... naked people are their own reward |
| 05:15.01 | Tem | please see my previous comments about using the two together |
| 05:15.05 | weab | it looked like a bandaid for crappy mods more than blizzard's coding |
| 05:15.21 | hyperChipmunk | it looks like a kick in the balls |
| 05:15.24 | Tem | "Any issues you have with Catalyst while running nFLT at the same time are your problem. I warned you that they won't play nice together." |
| 05:15.34 | ckknight | what is nFLT? |
| 05:15.40 | hyperChipmunk | ntmsFixLoadTimes |
| 05:15.54 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:16.07 | hyperChipmunk | s/Load/Loading/ |
| 05:16.50 | Tem | I thought it was nyms? |
| 05:17.04 | hyperChipmunk | er |
| 05:17.06 | hyperChipmunk | ntmys? |
| 05:17.12 | hyperChipmunk | ntmysFixLoadingTimes.zip |
| 05:17.15 | hyperChipmunk | ntmys |
| 05:18.00 | hyperChipmunk | n- to mangle your system |
| 05:18.02 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 05:18.10 | hyperChipmunk | happy-fun fake acronym time |
| 05:18.27 | hyperChipmunk | today's acronym: ntmys |
| 05:19.38 | ckknight | noobs to mangle your system |
| 05:19.44 | hyperChipmunk | there ya go |
| 05:20.56 | ckknight | work on GloryLib at all? |
| 05:21.14 | hyperChipmunk | yes! actually |
| 05:21.22 | hyperChipmunk | I slept for 4 hours |
| 05:21.27 | hyperChipmunk | and now I'm making great progress |
| 05:21.37 | hyperChipmunk | rethinking this model is really making happy results |
| 05:21.46 | ckknight | good stuff |
| 05:21.57 | ckknight | first priority is a good API |
| 05:22.08 | ckknight | second priority is efficiency |
| 05:22.12 | hyperChipmunk | you call a function in GloryLib by just doing FunctionName(self, arg1, arg2, ...) right? |
| 05:22.31 | hyperChipmunk | or did I misinterpret that |
| 05:23.02 | ckknight | you do glory:func(arg1, arg2, arg3) |
| 05:23.14 | hyperChipmunk | from w/in glorylib? |
| 05:23.27 | ckknight | within glorylib, you do self:func(arg1, arg2, arg3) |
| 05:23.32 | hyperChipmunk | ah, k |
| 05:23.36 | ckknight | the reason for Trigger(self, arg1, arg2) is cause Trigger is local |
| 05:23.41 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 05:23.43 | hyperChipmunk | righto |
| 05:23.44 | ckknight | it's not part of the API |
| 05:23.49 | ckknight | it's private |
| 05:25.32 | ckknight | also be sure you never do lib.whatever |
| 05:25.38 | ckknight | it's self.whatever |
| 05:25.45 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 05:26.04 | hyperChipmunk | I got it |
| 05:26.11 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 05:26.19 | hyperChipmunk | ~chippersnack me |
| 05:26.20 | purl | ACTION feeds hyperchipmunk some nuts. |
| 05:26.35 | ckknight | ...? |
| 05:26.47 | hyperChipmunk | I got something right =p |
| 05:26.56 | hyperChipmunk | it's an accomplishment! |
| 05:28.03 | Kaelten | well guys I'm off to bed |
| 05:28.04 | Kaelten | g'night |
| 05:28.15 | hyperChipmunk | sweet dreams |
| 05:38.35 | hyperChipmunk | can i just use the normal function events:EVENT_NAME for the events I trigger from w/in GloryLib? |
| 05:39.36 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 05:39.46 | hyperChipmunk | or i can stuff it all in when I trigger it, I suppose |
| 05:41.08 | hyperChipmunk | and CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE grows huger =) |
| 05:47.48 | ckknight | wait, what's your question? |
| 05:47.57 | hyperChipmunk | like |
| 05:49.42 | hyperChipmunk | I had functions to manipulate my battlefield objective table's values based on the chat events...but now that I've made the parsing of chat events trigger events of their own, I could just use those events to trigger table manipulations |
| 05:50.05 | hyperChipmunk | or I could just do the manipulations when I trigger them |
| 05:50.40 | ckknight | your goal is to not manipulate data when using the library |
| 05:50.45 | ckknight | the library should do all that for you |
| 05:51.04 | hyperChipmunk | I'm talking about within the library |
| 05:51.09 | ckknight | okay |
| 05:51.13 | hyperChipmunk | which is what makes it possible to do it at the same time |
| 05:51.24 | hyperChipmunk | to just do the manipulations when I trigger the events |
| 05:51.51 | hyperChipmunk | rather than as a response to the event firing |
| 05:51.58 | hyperChipmunk | either way, it does the same thing |
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| 05:52.32 | ckknight | so are you having the library register with its own events or something? |
| 05:52.52 | hyperChipmunk | I was asking if that's what it does |
| 05:52.58 | blaheva | hi, i need some help playing on a private wow server |
| 05:53.13 | ckknight | probably the wrong place to come, blaheva |
| 05:53.14 | blaheva | what's the best version to upgrade wow to? |
| 05:54.22 | hyperChipmunk | this is the ace project channel; we make interface AddOns for officially-supported clients here |
| 05:54.35 | blaheva | ok sorry |
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| 05:54.43 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 05:54.46 | ckknight | seriously |
| 05:54.50 | ckknight | that's not cool... |
| 05:54.56 | ckknight | and why'd he come here? |
| 05:55.27 | hyperChipmunk | same reason he had those questions, I assume |
| 05:55.31 | hyperChipmunk | i.e. he's a moron |
| 05:55.52 | ckknight | hehe |
| 05:56.38 | hyperChipmunk | awesome, I think I just crashed wow with BatFu |
| 05:56.47 | ckknight | hehe |
| 05:57.31 | hyperChipmunk | bam! fatal exception |
| 05:57.40 | ckknight | lol |
| 05:58.54 | hyperChipmunk | puny wow client was no match for my programming suxitude |
| 05:59.09 | hyperChipmunk | never stood a chance |
| 06:00.14 | ckknight | hrm, if I ever go to a class where they teach creationism beside evolution, I'll demand respect for a geosynchronous orbi |
| 06:00.20 | ckknight | orbit* |
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| 06:07.31 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: what did you do? |
| 06:08.45 | hyperChipmunk | heck if I knwo |
| 06:08.58 | hyperChipmunk | it happened when the horde picked up our flag |
| 06:09.27 | hyperChipmunk | client probably looked at CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE and crapped its pants |
| 06:10.22 | Tekkub | erf |
| 06:14.27 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: see if you can get it to repeat |
| 06:14.38 | hyperChipmunk | er, why? |
| 06:15.01 | Tem | well.. |
| 06:15.10 | Tem | if you can reliably crash the client, you need to report it |
| 06:15.14 | Tem | so it can get fixed |
| 06:15.32 | Tem | I crash it all the time :) |
| 06:15.37 | hyperChipmunk | I honestly think it was screwed-up coding |
| 06:16.39 | hyperChipmunk | i sent the crash log though |
| 06:17.22 | ckknight | report it to who? |
| 06:17.26 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk's writing it |
| 06:17.40 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 06:17.44 | hyperChipmunk | bliz i think |
| 06:17.48 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:17.48 | hyperChipmunk | since it doesn't fail gracefully |
| 06:18.03 | hyperChipmunk | and embedded code probably should |
| 06:18.21 | Tem | you should never be able to crash wow with lua |
| 06:18.26 | Tem | *never* |
| 06:18.28 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:18.52 | Tem | so, when you do, report it to slouken |
| 06:18.54 | Tem | and it gets fixed |
| 06:20.12 | Tekkub | does locking up with a loop count as crashing? |
| 06:20.32 | hyperChipmunk | well, I actually got a fatal exception box |
| 06:20.38 | hyperChipmunk | but i duno |
| 06:24.02 | Tekkub | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4840 |
| 06:24.08 | Tekkub | I think I love Jello |
| 06:25.18 | hyperChipmunk | =D |
| 06:25.35 | hyperChipmunk | his stuff is great; I swear by TrinketMenu and ItemRack |
| 06:27.00 | hyperChipmunk | doh, I'm not allowed to comment =( |
| 06:27.05 | otravi | oh! I see the title now! |
| 06:28.16 | ckknight | you mean Gello |
| 06:28.31 | hyperChipmunk | sweet dreams |
| 06:28.44 | Cairenn|sleep | night guys |
| 06:28.58 | ckknight | you're not asleep |
| 06:29.00 | ckknight | and we know it |
| 06:29.04 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 06:29.14 | Tekkub | you know what Boss, screw you :P |
| 06:29.21 | Tekkub | I _MEANT_ Jello |
| 06:29.30 | ckknight | yea, Jello is fucking awesome |
| 06:29.32 | ckknight | red's bet |
| 06:29.34 | ckknight | best* |
| 06:29.49 | hyperChipmunk | grr |
| 06:29.53 | hyperChipmunk | now I want jello =( |
| 06:30.07 | ckknight | me too... |
| 06:30.21 | hyperChipmunk | /doom |
| 06:30.23 | Tem | Night Cairenn|sleep |
| 06:31.34 | Tekkub | you know, I think I'm gonna bug Clad for a profiling version of AceEvent |
| 06:31.49 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:31.53 | Tem | Tekkub: did you intentionally typo on his comment? |
| 06:31.53 | Tekkub | we can track event handler times with Ace really easily |
| 06:32.06 | Tekkub | Tem, STFU |
| 06:32.11 | Tekkub | scroll up ass |
| 06:32.17 | Tem | I know |
| 06:32.21 | Tem | I'm talking about on WoWI |
| 06:32.27 | Tem | was that on purpose or did you screw up twice? |
| 06:32.28 | Tekkub | I know you are |
| 06:32.41 | Tekkub | <Tekkub> I _MEANT_ Jello |
| 06:32.58 | hyperChipmunk | STOP TALKING ABOUT JELLO |
| 06:33.56 | Tekkub | I'm in a bad mood, 2nd full MC run, second shittiest one the guild has had (the other was the first), and hubby being a fucking prick about me not playing with him |
| 06:34.59 | Tekkub | he doesn't play at work for a week and a half, he checks out a dozen books from the library, and the ONE fucking night I raid he's a dick thru the whole thing that I'm not playing with him tonight |
| 06:35.17 | hyperChipmunk | yea, how dare he not play games at work |
| 06:35.50 | Tekkub | then I get out of the raid and get invited to take on one of the green dragons' I ask him to go, and he's too fucking slow and loses his spot |
| 06:35.59 | Tekkub | then he bitches at my while I do that |
| 06:42.20 | hyperChipmunk | is this acceptable use? |
| 06:42.39 | hyperChipmunk | function lib:GetDefender(NodeToPOI(node)) |
| 06:42.50 | ckknight | eep, no |
| 06:42.57 | hyperChipmunk | well, self:NodeToPOI |
| 06:42.58 | ckknight | is that how you're declaring it? |
| 06:43.01 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 06:43.03 | hyperChipmunk | np |
| 06:43.14 | hyperChipmunk | I was just wondering; I'll do the transform on the first line of the function |
| 06:43.20 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:43.22 | ckknight | that's how you do it |
| 06:43.54 | hyperChipmunk | function lib:GetDefender(node) local poi = self:NodeToPOI(node) |
| 06:44.03 | ckknight | right |
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| 06:48.32 | hyperChipmunk | what is "Whitetooth Zoning Time"? |
| 06:48.56 | hyperChipmunk | one of my teammates just said, "anyone using mods and not using Catalyst and Whitetooth Zoning Time seriously need to get those." |
| 06:50.26 | Tem | haha awesome |
| 06:50.41 | Tem | WhiteTooth is the worst of the 3 |
| 06:50.52 | Tem | it's the one that has a loop in it's event handler |
| 06:53.37 | Tekkub | Bossman, question |
| 06:53.55 | Tekkub | what's DurabilityFu doing on BAG_UPDATE? |
| 06:54.08 | hyperChipmunk | checking the durability of items in your bag? |
| 06:54.26 | Tekkub | if that's true hC it's damn wasteful |
| 06:54.33 | hyperChipmunk | just a guess |
| 06:54.58 | Tekkub | yea it's my guess to, just wanna hear it from Bossy before I bitch him out |
| 06:55.03 | hyperChipmunk | heheh |
| 06:59.00 | haste | "rawrs" |
| 06:59.19 | hyperChipmunk | ~smack haste |
| 06:59.21 | purl | ACTION smacks haste upside the head. |
| 06:59.27 | hyperChipmunk | ~highfive purl |
| 06:59.45 | haste | damn the SVN, it has made me hate uploading files on interface sites even more :( |
| 07:00.00 | Tekkub | hrm DuroFu is doing something on UPDATE_INVENTRY_ALERTS too... do I need to spank you Bossy? |
| 07:00.04 | hyperChipmunk | isn't it wonderful |
| 07:00.14 | Tekkub | hasteyotter... /agree |
| 07:01.02 | Tekkub | this OnEvent thing is nice, it dug up Boss's error so quickly :) |
| 07:10.58 | ckknight | Tekkub, do not pay attention to the man behind the curtain |
| 07:11.15 | Tekkub | mmmhummmm..... |
| 07:11.28 | Tekkub | how often is DuraFu rescanning Bonny? |
| 07:11.35 | Tekkub | *Bossy |
| 07:13.10 | *** join/#wowace Firedancer (n=Miranda@cpe-24-58-108-74.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 07:17.59 | otravi | You know you are tired, when you upload the wrong addon :( |
| 07:18.08 | hyperChipmunk | wtg nub |
| 07:18.36 | Tekkub | otter! fix anchoring in the oRA modules! |
| 07:18.50 | Tekkub | never anchor to UIParent damnit! |
| 07:21.22 | Tekkub | Bosser, DuraFu needs some serious reworking |
| 07:21.48 | Tem | Tekkub: Upload Warmup to WoWI |
| 07:21.55 | Tekkub | why? |
| 07:22.05 | Tekkub | I gave you the code for zone times already |
| 07:22.14 | Tekkub | what else did the bishies want? |
| 07:22.33 | otravi | :OO |
| 07:22.35 | otravi | what module :p ? |
| 07:22.46 | Tem | Tekkub: they wanted event counts |
| 07:22.54 | Tekkub | ugh |
| 07:22.58 | Tem | Tekkub: I said "No, get WarmUp" |
| 07:23.01 | Tekkub | point them at the SVN :P |
| 07:23.04 | Tem | lol |
| 07:23.08 | hyperChipmunk | lol tem |
| 07:23.11 | Tem | last I heard, the SVN version wasn't working |
| 07:23.15 | Tekkub | I'm too lazy to do a "real" release |
| 07:23.18 | hyperChipmunk | wfm now |
| 07:23.19 | Firedancer | your svn version didn't work for me |
| 07:23.28 | Firedancer | i'm using an older version >.< |
| 07:23.30 | Tekkub | the latest latest SVN? |
| 07:23.42 | Firedancer | some error aboutt 'frame' whenever I'd log in |
| 07:23.45 | Tekkub | cause the shit they were bitching about ain't in the one I fixed for hC |
| 07:23.46 | hyperChipmunk | yesterdays fixed that |
| 07:23.51 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 07:23.54 | Firedancer | hmm |
| 07:24.00 | otravi | I'm using the SVN version :O |
| 07:24.02 | Firedancer | i'll give it a shot since i just logged to update oRA |
| 07:24.10 | Tekkub | lern2updatebeforeyouwhine! |
| 07:24.30 | otravi | Tekkub: I'll fix the dura hooking, but no now :p |
| 07:24.42 | otravi | err... anchoring... |
| 07:24.45 | Tekkub | otter... huh? |
| 07:25.05 | Tekkub | oh |
| 07:25.06 | Tekkub | :P |
| 07:25.12 | Tekkub | I already fixed it locally |
| 07:25.22 | otravi | I thought you did it on the SVN also :o |
| 07:25.25 | Tekkub | but cause clad's a big homo I can't commit it up |
| 07:25.28 | otravi | might be me who has f'd up |
| 07:25.34 | otravi | :( |
| 07:25.37 | Tekkub | I fixed one, I found more |
| 07:26.03 | otravi | me goes afk, yeeees! |
| 07:26.31 | Firedancer | well...i updated it last night and it was still broken. I try to be helpful rather than whiney. |
| 07:27.24 | Tekkub | :P |
| 07:27.56 | Tekkub | "it doesn't work" never helps, and asside from chipper that's all I've gotten |
| 07:29.02 | Tem | Tekkub: I just tested the latest svn version |
| 07:29.05 | Tem | works fine |
| 07:29.15 | Firedancer | Yeah, I was tired and went to bed without posting :D works fine now tho :D |
| 07:29.31 | Tem | a question though, why does it report addon loading info before all addons are done loading? |
| 07:29.43 | Firedancer | lol |
| 07:30.36 | Tekkub | I'm givin Vynn shit on the forum about it :) |
| 07:31.04 | Tekkub | Tem: it reports when all NORMAL addons are done, at VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 07:31.11 | Tekkub | the others are OnDemand addons |
| 07:31.16 | Tem | aaaah |
| 07:32.30 | Tem | alright, I'm done for now |
| 07:32.34 | Tem | night guys |
| 07:33.08 | otravi | ~rawr |
| 07:33.33 | Tekkub | fine since Bossman is ignoring me I'll bitch at him in a bug report |
| 07:34.53 | Firedancer | i've been trying to figure out how to fix the tooltips for fubar_guildfu plugin but i can't get anything to work right :p so tired of getting spammed in one of my chat windows with fubar code when I mouse over it >< |
| 07:35.16 | otravi | haha |
| 07:35.26 | otravi | have you seen some of the comments on the zone fix adons? |
| 07:35.38 | hyperChipmunk | change all FuBarTooltip: to self.tooltip: |
| 07:35.47 | otravi | like: "I just Hearthstoned from Orgrimmar to Crossroads, and I arrived instantly. I nearly fell off my chair... I literally saw NO loading screen at all. Amazing mod mate, please keep it maintained, cos this is top of my favourites list ;)" |
| 07:35.58 | hyperChipmunk | .............. |
| 07:36.04 | hyperChipmunk | hilarious |
| 07:36.45 | Firedancer | lol |
| 07:37.32 | Firedancer | self.tooltip is the only thing to change? i thought there were additional parameters added to the DoubleLine stuff...maybe I did it wrong the first time. trying again |
| 07:37.57 | hyperChipmunk | they're all optional |
| 07:38.04 | hyperChipmunk | the self.tooltip si what's causing the messages |
| 07:39.22 | Firedancer | ah |
| 07:39.24 | Tekkub | maintained? it doesn't matter if 1.11 breaks it... fools |
| 07:39.32 | Firedancer | i could have sworn i tried that and it didn't work |
| 07:39.46 | Firedancer | but it woked this time. |
| 07:39.56 | Firedancer | now to fix fubar_mail's tooltip >.> |
| 07:40.14 | Tekkub | so now, what does KC_Inventory do? :) |
| 07:40.26 | Tekkub | cause it's the second big hog on BAG_UPDATEs |
| 07:42.20 | otravi | kill puppies! |
| 07:42.48 | Firedancer | hah |
| 07:43.27 | Tekkub | yea fire, fix it and email me it to SVN up :) |
| 07:43.46 | Tekkub | I've gotten sick of fixing my mods cause Bosser changed BP/FuBar around |
| 07:43.48 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 07:44.05 | otravi | ~comfort Tekkub |
| 07:44.07 | purl | There, there, Tekkub. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 07:44.18 | Tekkub | ~shutup purl |
| 07:45.57 | hyperChipmunk | i think it's |
| 07:46.00 | hyperChipmunk | purl shut up |
| 07:46.01 | purl | yes, Master hyperchipmunk |
| 07:46.08 | Tekkub | ahso |
| 07:47.29 | hyperChipmunk | BatFu is getting tiny =x |
| 07:48.10 | otravi | When you only say BatFu... I think of baseball bat being slammed into someone ;< |
| 07:48.33 | hyperChipmunk | yes, it has such beautiful imagery that way, doesn't it? |
| 07:48.48 | Firedancer | wut is batfu? :D |
| 07:49.04 | hyperChipmunk | FuBar_BattlegroundFu |
| 07:49.09 | Firedancer | ah! |
| 07:49.14 | Firedancer | i like that one :D |
| 07:51.54 | otravi | hmm.. I've only slept 7 hours the last... three days |
| 07:52.03 | otravi | (in power naps total) |
| 08:10.04 | Neronix | morning |
| 08:10.37 | Tekkub | :P there, big bitchy bug report for Bossman |
| 08:10.45 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 08:11.17 | Firedancer | lol |
| 08:14.30 | Firedancer | i approve of the bitchy bug report! |
| 08:16.01 | Neronix | Woo! |
| 08:16.21 | Neronix | I never expected so much interest in my first mod :D |
| 08:23.06 | Neronix | Hmm.. where do you go to see whether your submission's been approved on curse? |
| 08:23.16 | hyperChipmunk | they send you a PM |
| 08:23.24 | Neronix | ok, thanks |
| 08:23.31 | hyperChipmunk | and you get a new little window on your page |
| 08:23.45 | hyperChipmunk | for editing your addons |
| 08:24.53 | Neronix | Ok |
| 08:28.39 | Tekkub | blarf, cursed |
| 08:30.22 | Neronix | I know. I personally prefer ui.worldofwar and wowi |
| 08:40.13 | Neronix | night hyper |
| 08:40.24 | hyperactiveZzzzz | night nero |
| 08:40.30 | hyperactiveZzzzz | night Cair =) |
| 08:40.40 | Tekkub | you know... |
| 08:40.48 | Tekkub | that makes no sense |
| 08:40.57 | Tekkub | you should be notsoactiveChipmunk |
| 08:41.05 | hyperactiveZzzzz | ha |
| 08:41.17 | hyperactiveZzzzz | i can't even fit hyperactiveChipmunk as a nic |
| 08:41.18 | hyperactiveZzzzz | k |
| 08:41.37 | sedatedChipmunk | better? |
| 08:42.00 | Tekkub | kek |
| 08:42.19 | sedatedChipmunk | >8D |
| 08:42.22 | Tekkub | twitchinginhessleepChipmunk |
| 08:42.27 | sedatedChipmunk | thx tek |
| 08:42.36 | Neronix | bur |
| 08:45.59 | sedatedChipmunk | oh, and if you see Boss--or ckknight, or Optimus, or Octavian, or whatever he's calling himself now--let him know that GloryLib is at 95% completion and should be ready before tomorrow afternoon (hopefully) |
| 08:50.36 | Wobble | What's GloryLib? |
| 08:50.40 | Wobble | Honour tracking? |
| 08:59.50 | Kaelten|Sleep | if anyone is interesting in piggy backing on KC_Item's tooltip stuff check this out. |
| 08:59.56 | Kaelten|Sleep | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/KC_Items_Tooltips |
| 09:00.04 | Kaelten|Sleep | also if anyone spots any typo/errors let me know. |
| 09:00.08 | Kaelten|Sleep | now I'm really going to bed |
| 09:00.11 | Kaelten|Sleep | gnight |
| 09:09.21 | Neronix | hmm... |
| 09:09.32 | Neronix | can you do dofile() in wow? |
| 09:10.31 | Wobble | not afaik |
| 09:10.35 | Wobble | er not afair |
| 09:11.45 | Neronix | I see |
| 09:17.27 | Tekkub | kael you bitch! |
| 09:31.28 | Mikma | fucking telia-sonera |
| 09:32.06 | Mikma | inet was out of order for 4 hours here and i called to sonera. they said "will work again in tuesday" |
| 09:32.13 | Mikma | funny thing it started to work now |
| 09:34.27 | Mikma | Neronix: gz on the first mod ;) |
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| 09:50.15 | Neronix | thanks Mikma :) |
| 10:01.44 | Mikma | nice addon, nice idea. simple and beautiful |
| 10:02.31 | oxman | :D |
| 10:02.51 | oxman | it's useless for my usage |
| 10:02.51 | oxman | :p |
| 10:03.12 | Neronix | It's just code from Auctioneer made standalone |
| 10:03.26 | oxman | i don't use auctioneer ;p |
| 10:04.02 | Neronix | took me 5 hours to do when I hoped to do it in 1 >.< |
| 10:04.21 | otravi | :( |
| 10:04.32 | oxman | ;D |
| 10:04.57 | Neronix | Yeah, I spent 4 hours trying to figure out why OnLoad and OnEvent weren't doing anything |
| 10:04.59 | Mikma | umf |
| 10:05.05 | Neronix | and it turned out that I forgot </Ui> |
| 10:05.06 | Mikma | useless? no not really |
| 10:06.05 | Neronix | saving your sanity's not useless |
| 10:06.07 | oxman | don't cut my sentence |
| 10:06.12 | oxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:06.14 | oxman | FOR MY USAGE |
| 10:06.20 | Neronix | ah, sorry |
| 10:06.26 | Mikma | yeah if you don't use auctionhouse xD |
| 10:06.29 | oxman | ;p |
| 10:06.32 | oxman | i don't use them |
| 10:06.32 | oxman | :) |
| 10:07.17 | Mikma | Neronix: btw typos and missed lines in .xml can be a bitch ;D |
| 10:07.24 | Neronix | I noticed :P |
| 10:08.02 | oxman | well |
| 10:08.08 | oxman | who kill c'thun ? :p |
| 10:08.17 | Mikma | i quote myself "wtf is wrong with this f*cking addon, why aren't the slashcommands working" .. and 2h later after doing the code over and over for 20 times i notice it's a typo in .xml ;) |
| 10:08.30 | oxman | lol |
| 10:08.38 | Neronix | someone killed c'thun? |
| 10:08.43 | oxman | no :) |
| 10:08.58 | oxman | the vhl guild sleep ;p |
| 10:09.01 | oxman | they're bad ;D |
| 10:09.19 | Mikma | <OnLoad> DoFoo() </OnUpdate> ;) |
| 10:09.26 | otravi | err? |
| 10:10.35 | Mikma | meheh, i'm being annoying, teasing neighbours with music ;) Playing Pendulum out loud nihaha |
| 10:11.01 | Mikma | "let is come streamliiiine" |
| 10:11.44 | otravi | what the hell is Pendulum? |
| 10:11.52 | otravi | genre :o ? |
| 10:11.58 | Mikma | dnb |
| 10:12.12 | Neronix | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendulum_(band) ? |
| 10:12.24 | otravi | closest I get to that is: Apoptygma Berzerk and Ayumi Hamasaki Eurobeat remix :p |
| 10:12.31 | Mikma | Neronix: bingo |
| 10:12.38 | Mikma | otravi: oooh :D appopopoppoot :D |
| 10:12.50 | otravi | :-----D |
| 10:13.06 | Mikma | apoptygma berzerk - welcome to earth |
| 10:13.10 | Mikma | i have that one |
| 10:13.18 | otravi | the old apop > everything else |
| 10:13.55 | Neronix | closest song I have to DnB :S |
| 10:13.58 | otravi | that one is also cool :D |
| 10:14.07 | otravi | (I have a very strange taste for music) |
| 10:14.12 | Mikma | same here |
| 10:14.16 | Neronix | Mine is stranger |
| 10:14.22 | Mikma | i usually don't like dnb but pendulum is just to cool |
| 10:14.24 | otravi | :o |
| 10:14.38 | Mikma | EBM, (Goa/Psy)Trance... |
| 10:14.41 | Neronix | I listen to Sigur Ros and symphonic metal o.o |
| 10:14.59 | Neronix | and various kinds of rock |
| 10:16.07 | Mikma | "Tarantula" (featuring Fresh, $pyda and Tenor Fly) - this one form pendulum is just too damn cool, really :D |
| 10:16.17 | otravi | Sigur Ros was a little imba :D |
| 10:17.00 | Neronix | heh |
| 10:17.18 | Mikma | http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF179965-01-01-01.mp3 |
| 10:17.26 | Mikma | there's a sample of tarantula |
| 10:19.10 | Neronix | Reminds me of hiphop O.o |
| 10:19.44 | otravi | http://www.myspace.com/dubrainhertz << reminds me of hiphop p |
| 10:19.54 | otravi | Infernal Region RMX at least |
| 10:20.07 | Mikma | i'll just pop this one on and go to sauna after :D Apoptygma Berzerk - 02 - Starsign.mp3 |
| 10:20.50 | Mikma | that song reminds me of my friends |
| 10:21.20 | Mikma | they we're going to the gathering last year and they played that from their ghettoblaster out loud in airport ;) |
| 10:21.54 | otravi | I am at the gathering actually :p |
| 10:22.06 | Mikma | yeah, so are my friends too i think |
| 10:22.24 | otravi | was fun doing AQ40 raid on the big screen here :) |
| 10:22.38 | otravi | with around 30 people standing behind you watching your every move :p |
| 10:22.47 | Mikma | wiped? |
| 10:22.56 | otravi | nope, Twin Emps done with one death |
| 10:23.11 | Mikma | after my friend starts to laugh me that they we're playing wow in there i'll say "i know" ;) |
| 10:23.15 | Neronix | nice |
| 10:32.50 | Tekkub | I've got this sudden urge to convert SpecialEvents into embeddables |
| 10:34.19 | otravi | :O |
| 10:34.31 | otravi | I'm pondering the thought of using metrognome in oRA instead of Timex |
| 10:34.50 | Tekkub | yea I know.... |
| 10:35.08 | Tekkub | I didn't mean to steal Timex's thunder, but I've had that ugre too :) |
| 10:35.45 | Tekkub | okey so aside from SE... what other embeddables do we need.... |
| 10:37.56 | Neronix | hmm |
| 10:38.21 | Neronix | dunno :S |
| 10:38.31 | Tekkub | you're helpful :P |
| 10:38.54 | Neronix | I was about to say Warmup, but I realised it was silly at the last minute :P |
| 10:39.03 | Tekkub | kerg's doing the simple data structures.... |
| 10:39.15 | otravi | Tekkub: Well, timex is a little overkill on one timer (As it is used for now) |
| 10:39.38 | Tekkub | you know what'd be uber kewl otter? |
| 10:39.47 | Tekkub | if timex started using metro |
| 10:39.51 | Tekkub | :) |
| 10:41.27 | id` | lol |
| 10:41.28 | id` | :p |
| 10:41.32 | id` | (morning) |
| 10:41.56 | otravi | hello |
| 10:42.10 | otravi | hehe, wonder how that would be Tekkub |
| 10:42.14 | id` | The night that joined the lover and the beloved one, turning each into the other. |
| 10:42.23 | id` | Hm, nice lyrics |
| 10:42.37 | id` | Lloreena Mckennitt |
| 10:42.39 | Tekkub | sounds like some kinky sex act |
| 10:42.58 | Mikma | where?! |
| 10:43.03 | id` | s/turning/transforming/ |
| 10:43.14 | Tekkub | Werebears! |
| 10:43.19 | id` | ahhh! |
| 10:43.38 | Tekkub | aw come on indie, I'd so fuck a werebear |
| 10:44.00 | id` | i'd so not |
| 10:44.02 | id` | : |
| 10:44.03 | id` | \ |
| 10:44.20 | Tekkub | Imagine him shiftin whilst he's busy poundin you *grin* |
| 10:44.40 | id` | no, no, no >_< |
| 10:45.01 | id` | argh my virgin mind.. what have you done... |
| 10:45.45 | Tekkub | *grin* |
| 10:45.56 | Tekkub | I got some great werebear stories if you want |
| 10:46.10 | Neronix | hahaha |
| 10:46.11 | id` | I dont like fur :< |
| 10:46.14 | Neronix | morning id` |
| 10:46.18 | id` | hi Neronix |
| 10:46.24 | Tekkub | oh yea... guess what I got tonight |
| 10:46.38 | id` | In fact my chin feels like a babies butt |
| 10:46.41 | id` | :P |
| 10:46.52 | Tekkub | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=18203 |
| 10:47.14 | Tekkub | It goes well with my Beaststalker hat |
| 10:47.33 | Tekkub | now I just need the matching claw and I can be a furry for reals! |
| 10:49.21 | id` | its got nice speed |
| 10:49.30 | id` | i always prefer speed weapons over high damage weapons |
| 10:49.48 | id` | steady damage output ftw, especially in games in pvp |
| 10:49.51 | id` | (not only wow) |
| 10:50.00 | Neronix | They need to make more fist weaps >.> |
| 10:53.12 | Tekkub | my fellow hunters have made it their goal to get me deep into negative DKP |
| 10:53.37 | Tekkub | I was at -19 going in tonight, I think I spent 65 |
| 10:53.44 | Tekkub | and earned prolly 10 |
| 10:53.47 | Tekkub | :) |
| 10:56.31 | Tekkub | maybe I'll whip up Gratuity |
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| 10:58.48 | otravi | (I read that as gravity) |
| 10:59.39 | Tekkub | okey that was cute... damn cat |
| 11:00.07 | Tekkub | I'm sittin here, fresh out of the shower, rubbing some dry skin off my ankles..... |
| 11:00.32 | Tekkub | kitty brush up against me and a bunch of the skin falls off on her head, she freaks out |
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| 11:10.17 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [MoonWolf]] by ChanServ |
| 11:10.51 | Neronix | hey [MoonWolf] |
| 11:10.59 | [MoonWolf] | hey people. |
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| 11:12.15 | id` | lo moon |
| 11:14.21 | oxman | lo |
| 11:24.11 | [MoonWolf] | tekkubs next post is his 1k |
| 11:27.07 | Neronix | http://www.wowace.com/?page=usage - shouldn't this be on the wiki? |
| 11:30.37 | [MoonWolf] | perhaps |
| 11:30.41 | [MoonWolf] | ill see into taht |
| 11:30.47 | [MoonWolf] | it was written way before we had a wiki |
| 11:31.17 | Neronix | I see |
| 11:39.13 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, congratulations on post 1k! |
| 11:39.40 | Tekkub | :P |
| 11:41.05 | Neronix | Grats |
| 11:42.18 | Tekkub | meh |
| 11:54.46 | Neronix | See when doing AceAddon:new at the start? |
| 11:55.02 | Neronix | if I don't have savedvariables, do I just remove the db line? |
| 11:55.46 | Neronix | or do I just make the contents ""? |
| 11:56.30 | id` | Tekkub: you spammer. ive been here since august 05 and i have 300 posts |
| 11:59.57 | [MoonWolf] | You are both spammers |
| 12:00.17 | [MoonWolf] | i have been here since september |
| 12:00.26 | [MoonWolf] | and i have 195 |
| 12:03.26 | Neronix | does AddonName:Enable() only get called when the user does /ace addonname enable? |
| 12:03.33 | Neronix | or does it get called when the addon loads? |
| 12:06.16 | [MoonWolf] | when the addon loads an when it is taken out of standby |
| 12:06.48 | Tekkub | IF it's enabled on load |
| 12:06.55 | [MoonWolf] | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:07.00 | Neronix | So it's best to put event registering stuff in enable()? |
| 12:07.11 | Tekkub | yes |
| 12:07.14 | [MoonWolf] | that is where it is intended to go yes |
| 12:07.16 | Neronix | ok, thanks |
| 12:07.18 | Tekkub | don't register on init |
| 12:07.36 | [MoonWolf] | any hookf done though ace unhook themselves on a disable, you do not have to do that yourself |
| 12:07.50 | Neronix | noted, thanks |
| 12:07.56 | Tekkub | unregisters are done for you if ace does the disabel... but if you're calling disable yourself make sure to unregister all and unhook all |
| 12:11.23 | Neronix | I see |
| 12:12.31 | Neronix | and when aceing my addons, do I rename variables from say, MyAddon_Foo to MyAddon:Foo? |
| 12:12.57 | Tekkub | variables? use a . |
| 12:13.04 | Neronix | I see |
| 12:13.05 | Tekkub | MyAddon.Foo |
| 12:13.24 | Neronix | I haven't gone as far as the OOP stuff in the Lua docs yet :P |
| 12:13.30 | Tekkub | and if you're inside Addon:SomeMethod() you can get at it a tad faster with self.Foo |
| 12:13.40 | Tekkub | the : is key there |
| 12:13.55 | Neronix | noted, thanks |
| 12:14.08 | [MoonWolf] | functions use a : to pass self around it is syntatic suger for Addon.SomeMethod(self,...) |
| 12:14.16 | Tekkub | once you get used to how self works it kicks ass |
| 12:14.44 | Tekkub | anywho, teevee tiem! |
| 12:26.12 | Elviso | so even for non-ace coding, if your functions are in the format Addon:Method()....you can use self.var instead of Addon.var? |
| 12:27.47 | Elviso | the whole self thing confuses me |
| 13:05.55 | id` | a={b='foo',c=function(self,string) print(string) end} a.c(a,a.b) a:c(a.b) a:c('blah') |
| 13:06.06 | id` | Elviso: can you make anything out of that? |
| 13:24.06 | id` | Tekkub, ckknight, Cairenn|sleep, [Ammo], clad|afk, Codayus, Djanee, Elviso, Eraphine, FryGuy, Fritti, groll, gxam, Jarenthal, kergoth, Mikma, Neronix`afk, otravi, oxman, pagefault, phyber, purl, sedatedChipmunk, Slayman, Tain, Thiana, weab, Wobin_ |
| 13:24.14 | oxman | :) |
| 13:24.17 | id` | I am now officially playing wow again |
| 13:24.22 | id` | DUN DUN UN! |
| 13:24.24 | id` | dun* |
| 13:24.29 | oxman | lol |
| 13:24.30 | id` | (on eu servers) |
| 13:24.37 | oxman | buy an account for lineage II |
| 13:24.37 | oxman | ;) |
| 13:24.42 | id` | i just added a subscription and my account is unfrozen |
| 13:24.45 | id` | nah |
| 13:24.46 | id` | :p |
| 13:24.54 | oxman | lineage II is better :) |
| 13:25.16 | id` | thats an opinion |
| 13:25.45 | *** join/#wowace otravi_ (n=haste@Midkemia.e41-sw3.tg06.gathering.org) |
| 13:26.21 | otravi_ | hmm, I just... fell a sleep.. on the keyboard :< |
| 13:26.27 | otravi_ | "just" |
| 13:27.10 | oxman | my CleanUI is finish ;p |
| 13:27.25 | oxman | i need add some /cmd, and i release it on curse :) |
| 13:27.36 | id` | boooo curse |
| 13:27.41 | oxman | in few hours in think (i must do shopping etc :p) |
| 13:27.50 | oxman | curse is the most popular website for addon |
| 13:28.40 | otravi_ | I dislike Curse... 'cause of friends experience with the NeT guy or something |
| 13:28.49 | otravi_ | can't remember what it was anymore :O |
| 13:28.52 | oxman | lol |
| 13:28.59 | oxman | it's very stupid |
| 13:29.12 | oxman | if you don't remember the problem, so you have no reason to dislike it |
| 13:29.13 | oxman | :) |
| 13:34.54 | id` | im not even going into duscussion. curse is a puthole of newbies flaming people and SHIT, it sucks. THE END. |
| 13:35.14 | oxman | nobody flam my addon |
| 13:35.14 | oxman | ;D |
| 13:35.20 | id` | dont care |
| 13:35.24 | id` | now go shopping |
| 13:35.27 | oxman | lol |
| 13:39.00 | *** join/#wowace haste (n=haste@194.0.41.184) |
| 13:42.14 | Slayman | CONGRATS id` |
| 13:44.21 | Slayman | id´ if u r playing again, update ur idMinimap to optionally cast find mins/herbs/treasures on right click ! ^^ I'm off shopping now |
| 13:46.22 | haste | You know whats REALLY REALLY REALLY fun? |
| 13:46.32 | haste | when TV2 (norwegian TV chan) just wakes you up |
| 13:46.43 | haste | you haven't slept more then seven hoursish the last three days |
| 13:46.59 | haste | and the first question you get is: How would you pickup a girl on IRC? |
| 13:47.07 | haste | and you are dealy tired, and almost lost :---D |
| 13:47.38 | Mikma | answer was? :D |
| 13:47.58 | haste | I don't think I gave much of an answer |
| 13:49.43 | haste | I'm so looking forward to seenig myself fuck up on TV :----D |
| 13:51.52 | haste | btw, two x2 camears and question like that = worse then 30 people watching you do Twin Emps p |
| 14:05.44 | Mikma | bah, replacing the minimap texture wasn't that easy afterall |
| 14:11.10 | id` | Slayman: I will |
| 14:11.50 | id` | haste: all girls are guys on irc |
| 14:11.56 | id` | except for cairenn |
| 14:11.58 | id` | and emma-chan |
| 14:11.59 | id` | :> |
| 14:12.02 | id` | (not from here) |
| 14:14.08 | haste | haha |
| 14:14.25 | haste | well, try answering to that while you have one of the most unserious persons in your face id` |
| 14:14.49 | haste | and two cameras that attract like tons of people :o |
| 14:15.22 | id` | :p |
| 14:15.56 | haste | it was worse then doing twin emps with around 30 people around you :p |
| 14:16.01 | id` | welcome to irc; where the men are men, the women are men and the little boys are fbi agents |
| 14:16.07 | haste | :-P |
| 14:16.13 | id` | emps? |
| 14:16.19 | haste | Twin Emps in AQ40 |
| 14:16.23 | haste | we did on the big screen here |
| 14:16.28 | id` | ;o |
| 14:16.34 | haste | and with streaming :p |
| 14:16.43 | id` | heh |
| 14:16.49 | haste | together with the blizzard CM Thundergot |
| 14:17.10 | haste | it was a perfect kill however, and the person streaming used my Unit frames *grin* |
| 14:17.22 | id` | :p |
| 14:17.32 | id` | last time i played wow was 22 fab |
| 14:17.34 | id` | feb* |
| 14:17.39 | id` | i have some catching up to do |
| 14:17.48 | id` | lots of new spiffy addons to view |
| 14:17.50 | id` | :p |
| 14:18.54 | haste | hehe |
| 14:19.04 | haste | so you have started to play again :o ? |
| 14:19.07 | clad|afk | otravi: You have a screenshot of your unit frames? |
| 14:19.30 | id` | haste: yes |
| 14:19.31 | id` | :D |
| 14:19.38 | id` | cladhaire: \o/ |
| 14:20.02 | haste | cladhaire: http://plixx.org/?3z << they are basicly a dirty hack based of AceBarFrames |
| 14:20.24 | haste | and added most things that AceLucenFrames has. |
| 14:21.23 | haste | id`: good to have you back :) |
| 14:21.33 | haste | now update the official idChat so I don't get anymore questions about it :p |
| 14:23.12 | cladhaire | nice and clean =) |
| 14:23.57 | otravi | I should do a crash-course in optimization tho' |
| 14:24.06 | otravi | it's something I _need_ to learn more about |
| 14:25.57 | Tain | You know clad, as much as I know why everyone's a separate repository I can't help but like that I used to just update at trunk on trac's svn and get everything in one shot. |
| 14:28.00 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 14:28.02 | cladhaire | we can go back to this |
| 14:28.06 | cladhaire | but this is how it was set up |
| 14:28.42 | Tain | I don't know what's better, I just know what appeals to my sensibilities of being lazy. :) |
| 14:29.26 | cladhaire | permissions are actually easier (in one respec) on a single repository |
| 14:29.58 | cladhaire | repository creation becomes non-existant.. we just create a directory |
| 14:30.27 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.43 | cladhaire | it was an experiment that became the standard in 2 seconds, cause opensvn was down |
| 14:31.02 | Tain | Yeah I know it's a lot simpler from that perspective. |
| 14:31.18 | Tain | heh well that's how things often find themselves in the spotlight |
| 14:31.32 | cladhaire | i can't do groups with a granular SVN |
| 14:31.39 | cladhaire | in a monolithic, I can do @ace_devs |
| 14:31.53 | cladhaire | @acedevs = tardmrr, cladhaire, kergoth, kaelten |
| 14:32.01 | cladhaire | and then give acedevs write permission to Ace. |
| 14:32.09 | cladhaire | same with ora, mend, pt, etc. |
| 14:32.28 | cladhaire | but this is what we have right now =/' |
| 14:32.52 | cladhaire | one passwd file, etc. |
| 14:32.58 | Tain | Well I've only really worked on individual SVN repositories, nothing the size of what we have with Ace and it's addons. So I don't know if there's "best" ways. |
| 14:33.14 | Tain | But it does seem like the single repository is easier for us. |
| 14:33.18 | cladhaire | me neither |
| 14:33.25 | cladhaire | its nice for each person to have control over their own repo |
| 14:33.33 | cladhaire | but it doesn't gain us much, except individual logs |
| 14:33.36 | cladhaire | which is a weakness to some |
| 14:34.14 | Tain | Well the individual logs is a really nice thing ot have. But, I suspect that would be less of an issue if everyone used descriptive log entries which not everyone has in the past. |
| 14:34.23 | cladhaire | aye |
| 14:34.25 | cladhaire | brb |
| 14:39.10 | id` | What's Catalyst? |
| 14:39.31 | id` | (I'm going through the svn looking for stuff I haven't seen yet) |
| 14:39.37 | Tain | Catalyst is wonderful! |
| 14:39.39 | id` | (Couldnt find it on the forums) |
| 14:39.54 | id` | I bet, so what's it do? |
| 14:40.27 | Tain | Tem's addon to vastly improve zone times by unregistering events that aren't needed that fire hundreds of times during zone |
| 14:40.36 | id` | ownage |
| 14:40.40 | id` | *use* |
| 14:40.48 | Tain | Martha, fetch my gun. "I believe I found the source of the problem, the author of TrainerSkills appears to have used "print" as a global variable in his AddOn." |
| 14:41.09 | id` | hahaha |
| 14:41.37 | Mikma | anyone has photoshop or some program which can do transparent .tga's? |
| 14:42.45 | Tain | Best bet for free would probably be The Gimp, takes a bit to learn the interface and how to do it all but it's well worth it if you're going to work with graphic files. |
| 14:43.00 | Mikma | i hope it supports os x |
| 14:43.13 | Tain | Oh in that case I have no idea. |
| 14:43.19 | Tain | ~gimp |
| 14:43.20 | purl | gimp is probably the scourge of the kompany, or an excellent image manipulation program. 2.0 is now stable and it has MANY, MANY improvements over the 1.x series. Pick it up NOW. *_GREAT_*! |
| 14:44.03 | Tain | I don't know if there's an OSX version, if I had to guess without any information I'd like to think it does. |
| 14:46.22 | id` | Im sure there would be something for osx |
| 14:46.22 | Mikma | crap, it requires X11 installed |
| 14:46.40 | id` | Mikma: well thats a small duh :\ |
| 14:47.02 | Mikma | well no it ain't but i don't wan't to install the freaking dev-kit :P |
| 14:47.31 | Mikma | i'm trying to replace my minimapborder with this: http://www.wowtextures.com/gallery2/d/3286-2/AuraRune8.jpg |
| 14:47.48 | Mikma | but it's too large and it needs to be resized to 192x192 :P |
| 14:48.08 | id` | then it'd prolly interfere with the minimap.. |
| 14:48.14 | id` | or not showup how you want it :X |
| 14:48.41 | Mikma | well it did show up but was not aligned properly and was too large |
| 14:49.12 | id` | ah k |
| 14:50.13 | Kaelten | hi |
| 14:50.30 | cladhaire | Hey Kael |
| 14:50.33 | cladhaire | Kaelten: WE NEED TO TALK BISH |
| 14:50.35 | cladhaire | you never email me. |
| 14:50.38 | cladhaire | i'm gonna cry |
| 14:50.41 | Kaelten | did too! |
| 14:50.45 | Kaelten | did last night |
| 14:50.55 | cladhaire | lol well i didn't check yet =) |
| 14:51.01 | Kaelten | ha! yer fault! |
| 14:51.03 | Kaelten | Bish! |
| 14:51.14 | cladhaire | Do we want to move to a single monolithic repository like before |
| 14:51.18 | cladhaire | or stick with this independent nonsense |
| 14:51.19 | cladhaire | ? |
| 14:51.27 | Kaelten | I prefere the independent nonsense |
| 14:51.34 | cladhaire | do you really, for any particular reason? |
| 14:51.56 | Tain | I say we do monolithic and then do one-off independant ones for people who really want them. |
| 14:52.13 | cladhaire | Cause there are many advantages to having a main repo |
| 14:52.29 | cladhaire | and some to having individuals. |
| 14:52.34 | cladhaire | but i want to address it before we get too far in |
| 14:52.57 | cladhaire | not that we already aren't. |
| 14:53.09 | Tain | Nah not too bad yet. |
| 14:53.35 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 14:53.39 | cladhaire | But like i said, I really want to address it before we get too far |
| 14:54.01 | cladhaire | Kaelten: TO give you an idea, I can (in a single repo) use groups, like @AceDevs = tardmrr, cladhaire, kergoth, kaelten |
| 14:54.13 | cladhaire | @PeriodicTable = tekkub, otravi, moonwolf |
| 14:54.21 | cladhaire | and still have permissions fully locked down |
| 14:54.38 | cladhaire | so ONLY those who need or request commit access to a SPECIFIC directory can get it |
| 14:54.44 | cladhaire | would be no more password script |
| 14:54.46 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 14:54.58 | cladhaire | and we could likely import what we have already in the individual repos. |
| 14:55.12 | Tain | See I still liked the idea of having full write under each addon for branches though. |
| 14:55.24 | cladhaire | Tain: and I can still do that |
| 14:55.33 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 14:55.35 | cladhaire | I can do anythign permission wise |
| 14:55.37 | *** topic/#wowace by Cairenn -> wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | Happy Birthday Kaelten! |
| 14:55.37 | cladhaire | but we need to decide. |
| 14:55.50 | cladhaire | ZOMG!!! |
| 14:55.54 | Kaelten | I just like the ability to have things a little bit more organized. |
| 14:55.54 | cladhaire | HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!111 |
| 14:55.56 | Kaelten | lol |
| 14:55.56 | Tain | Today if you want to do that I would have to create my own folder under my own repo to branch say KC_Items. |
| 14:56.17 | cladhaire | Tain: Thats correct.. and its kinda annoying that way =) |
| 14:56.22 | cladhaire | there are pluses and minuses to each |
| 14:56.32 | cladhaire | I just hink we should talk and work it out so I can get things set up |
| 14:56.42 | Tain | Absolutely, there's big plusses to having individual repos. |
| 14:57.06 | Tain | I do think that for the bulk of Ace addons a single repo is a good idea. |
| 14:57.27 | Tain | And if you don't mind doing the permissions things that you're already doing, people can still have indidivual repos as well. |
| 14:57.41 | otravi | this is so fun! |
| 14:57.44 | cladhaire | but thats another issue.. how do you tell peopl ewhat goes in the Ace repo and what doesn't? |
| 14:57.56 | otravi | debugging a php script, over irc, without seeing any of the source and just the errors :p |
| 14:58.05 | id` | Cairenn: im back @ wow ^^ |
| 14:58.11 | cladhaire | otravi: lol >3 |
| 14:58.13 | Cairenn | id`: cool |
| 14:58.16 | otravi | ~stroke id` |
| 14:58.17 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 14:58.19 | id` | yay 1.10 update finished installing |
| 14:58.30 | cladhaire | good to have you back id =) |
| 14:58.33 | id` | xD |
| 14:58.42 | Tain | Here's the other thing I really like about having a single repo. |
| 14:58.47 | Kaelten | well I'm about to have to go afk |
| 14:59.06 | Tain | id was just looking through the trac svn and looking at the new addons he wasn't familiar with. |
| 14:59.23 | Tain | That's a lot harder when you have to go through a few dozen individual repos. |
| 14:59.29 | Kaelten | do we want to have a seperate repository for official Ace projects? |
| 14:59.51 | cladhaire | I say no.. because what constitutes an "official ace project? |
| 15:00.15 | Kaelten | Ace, AceGUI, Ace2 AceDev |
| 15:00.28 | cladhaire | But thats it.. that's like having what we have now |
| 15:00.30 | Tain | I would think though it would be ok to have them all in a single repository since you can control permissions. |
| 15:00.34 | cladhaire | and what i expected us to do with what we have now. |
| 15:01.03 | Tain | Unless it's something entirely different you're thinking of with having a separate Ace reposotiry. |
| 15:01.49 | cladhaire | We can do anything.. I just want to make sure it makes sense |
| 15:02.11 | cladhaire | I originally toyed with a post-commit hook that re-commits the same commit to a seperate single repo that can't be edited directly |
| 15:02.13 | cladhaire | but that sucks. |
| 15:02.23 | Kaelten | ewee |
| 15:02.23 | Mikma | id`: welcome back :) |
| 15:03.02 | Kaelten | ok clad: go ahead with the single repo and wonderful multiple weird group permissions |
| 15:03.09 | cladhaire | lol |
| 15:03.17 | cladhaire | what changed your mind? |
| 15:03.29 | cladhaire | we can do it anywhere.. we just never decided, cause it got rolled out way too quickly |
| 15:03.29 | cladhaire | lol |
| 15:03.51 | Kaelten | I don't have any major reason to keep it the way it is other than its nice to have private control of things |
| 15:04.01 | Kaelten | if I can keep control of my trunk and tags directory then I'm happy. |
| 15:04.03 | cladhaire | what "things".. cause maybe i can give them |
| 15:04.29 | cladhaire | well |
| 15:04.34 | Kaelten | mainly my addons trunk and tags |
| 15:04.49 | cladhaire | then the questino is.. is WatchDOg Ace/trunk/WatchDog/ |
| 15:04.55 | cladhaire | or Ace/trunk/Cladhaire/WatchDog? |
| 15:04.57 | cladhaire | bah |
| 15:05.18 | Kaelten | or is it Ace/WatchDog/trunk? |
| 15:05.22 | cladhaire | =) |
| 15:05.27 | cladhaire | aye.. there's the question |
| 15:05.37 | Kaelten | I've been using KaelCycle/Kc_Items/trunk |
| 15:05.52 | Kaelten | I think |
| 15:06.01 | cladhaire | otravi: What about you? what are your thoughts?. |
| 15:06.02 | Kaelten | but thats the example they used in the documentation for svn as well |
| 15:06.03 | cladhaire | id`: You too |
| 15:06.19 | cladhaire | i prefer to trunk/branch/tags under the project title. |
| 15:06.25 | cladhaire | but thats just me |
| 15:06.32 | Kaelten | <rep>/<project>/<trunk/branch/tags> |
| 15:06.39 | Tain | Personally I don't have a need for my name out there. |
| 15:06.39 | otravi | cladhaire: I haven't been following the discussion, currently helping a friend with some server issues |
| 15:06.51 | cladhaire | oh ok |
| 15:07.02 | otravi | but what Kaelten said there looks fine to me |
| 15:07.23 | cladhaire | I can DO permissions like that |
| 15:07.24 | cladhaire | BUT |
| 15:07.31 | cladhaire | I'd have to make every new project |
| 15:07.44 | otravi | oh that sucks a little |
| 15:07.46 | cladhaire | there's no "authenticated users" |
| 15:07.56 | cladhaire | well i could make a grouop |
| 15:08.04 | cladhaire | so everyone has access to the repo root |
| 15:08.12 | cladhaire | hrm. |
| 15:08.21 | Kaelten | could you make a script to create a new project? |
| 15:08.46 | otravi | If you want my current opinion: If the system works, I can get used to it, and I have no problem with people having rw access to "my" files. |
| 15:08.49 | cladhaire | its possible yeah, but i'd probably rather avoid it. |
| 15:08.49 | Kaelten | enter user/pass and project name and it spit out the correct directorys? |
| 15:09.35 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 15:09.46 | Kaelten | well I've got to run |
| 15:09.49 | cladhaire | Ok |
| 15:09.50 | cladhaire | i'll think about it |
| 15:09.52 | cladhaire | and do.. something. |
| 15:10.04 | Kaelten | I say go for the signle repo |
| 15:10.20 | Kaelten | and just give people acess to their directories for write access |
| 15:10.37 | cladhaire | so you would split things up by author.. or leave projects in root? |
| 15:10.44 | Kaelten | root |
| 15:10.52 | cladhaire | k |
| 15:10.54 | Kaelten | if we split them up by author we may as well leave it the way it is |
| 15:10.56 | cladhaire | i'll look at it then |
| 15:11.27 | Kaelten | k |
| 15:11.45 | Kaelten | I'll be around but afk, if you need to ask me something go for it and I'll be checking occasionally. |
| 15:12.44 | *** join/#wowace [MoonWolf] (n=moonwolf@f176182.upc-f.chello.nl) |
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| 15:12.48 | id` | < cladhaire> id`: You too |
| 15:13.01 | cladhaire | id`: Askindg you opinions on the svn =) |
| 15:13.22 | otravi | Well,what solution is the "easiest" on the admin side? |
| 15:13.25 | id` | I don't have any experience with svn, but all in one seems easier to browse... |
| 15:13.31 | cladhaire | otravi: None of them =) |
| 15:13.41 | otravi | cladhaire: oh, that sounds joyable |
| 15:13.49 | cladhaire | otravi: Having everyone having their own directory.. under a single repository |
| 15:13.49 | id` | maybe I can get some exp by putting my idAddons on there some time :> |
| 15:13.58 | cladhaire | otravi: Gimme a sec |
| 15:14.50 | otravi | I am one of those that trust everyone, and with a SVN system it's quite easy to get things rolled back if someone makes a mistake |
| 15:15.13 | cladhaire | [/] |
| 15:15.13 | cladhaire | * = r |
| 15:15.13 | cladhaire | cladhaire = rw |
| 15:15.13 | cladhaire | kaelten = rw |
| 15:15.13 | cladhaire | tardmrr = rw |
| 15:15.17 | cladhaire | access files are of that format |
| 15:15.31 | cladhaire | directory, * = all and then individuals until the next [/directory] |
| 15:16.23 | cladhaire | i can make a script that authenticates using logins and passwords.. and allows you to create a new directory |
| 15:17.41 | cladhaire | parsing in php isn't horrible.. so |
| 15:24.41 | otravi | why not generate it from a database, or xml file? |
| 15:24.57 | otravi | or wouldn't that be possible on the svn? |
| 15:25.22 | Wobin_ | Tain: yeah I read that about the global 'print' |
| 15:25.29 | Wobin_ | And went wtf? =P |
| 15:25.45 | cladhaire | not possible. |
| 15:25.59 | cladhaire | otravi: The file has to be owned by the apache user.. and has to be in that format. |
| 15:26.12 | cladhaire | I could make it a backend database, and then generate it from there |
| 15:26.16 | Wobin_ | oh, Clad, are the password thingies more stable now? |
| 15:26.19 | cladhaire | but thats about it. |
| 15:26.21 | cladhaire | Wobin_: No =) |
| 15:26.24 | cladhaire | Wobin_: That's what we're working on |
| 15:26.25 | Wobin_ | okay =) |
| 15:27.01 | Wobin_ | I hate it when webpermissions collide |
| 15:27.07 | cladhaire | well, whats wrong with your username? |
| 15:31.35 | Wobin_ | oh nothing |
| 15:34.02 | cladhaire | oh |
| 15:34.07 | cladhaire | you should be able to use the script to change it. |
| 15:34.08 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 15:39.51 | id` | Where can i find AceTooltip? |
| 15:40.01 | id` | btw I vote for one trunk |
| 15:40.03 | id` | :> |
| 15:40.14 | cladhaire | acetooltip is on the opensvn i believe |
| 15:40.37 | id` | k |
| 15:41.18 | ckknight | hey all |
| 15:41.22 | cladhaire | heyas boss |
| 15:41.46 | ckknight | hey cladhaire, can I get an svn repository? |
| 15:41.52 | cladhaire | ckknight: Certainloy |
| 15:41.56 | cladhaire | it'll likely not be until tomorrow |
| 15:42.01 | cladhaire | i'm working out how we want to organize i. |
| 15:42.02 | ckknight | alright |
| 15:42.11 | cladhaire | (we're going back to a single repo, with finer grained permissions than before) |
| 15:42.30 | ckknight | hrm |
| 15:42.35 | Wobin_ | It would make it easier to navigate |
| 15:42.42 | cladhaire | that;s one of the main complaints. |
| 15:42.49 | Wobin_ | Since we currently have a mix of authors and projects |
| 15:43.13 | ckknight | cause I figured out that with svn:keywords, I can automatically update the versions/dates and whatnot |
| 15:43.36 | cladhaire | ckknight: What do you mean? |
| 15:44.04 | ckknight | in the lua files, I have versions are major.minor.revision |
| 15:44.14 | ckknight | so it'll be 1.0.revision soon |
| 15:44.26 | ckknight | I can automatically update the revision number |
| 15:44.58 | ckknight | if you have svn:keywords, you can do $Rev$ or $Date$, and it'll insert that variable |
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| 15:49.16 | id` | sourceforge is so slowwww |
| 15:49.21 | id` | :\ |
| 15:49.54 | Mikma | bah, got the image converted to 192x192 but now it crashes WoW |
| 15:53.53 | Wobin_ | REally? That's quite useful |
| 15:58.58 | Tem | god damnit I hate that guy |
| 15:59.20 | cladhaire | Tem: |
| 15:59.23 | Eraphine | mirvalix? |
| 15:59.26 | cladhaire | one repository with projects and permissions under the main |
| 15:59.29 | cladhaire | or many repositores |
| 15:59.45 | Tem | Miravlix |
| 15:59.47 | Tem | can't stand him |
| 15:59.50 | cladhaire | me neither |
| 16:00.00 | Eraphine | btw has any checked out tuller's omni cooldown count? |
| 16:00.06 | Eraphine | it's buggy - but bow - it saves on the mem |
| 16:00.10 | Tem | yeah |
| 16:00.13 | cladhaire | no i havent |
| 16:00.15 | Eraphine | just generates font strings hooked on cooldown function |
| 16:00.16 | Tem | that was actually my idea |
| 16:00.23 | cladhaire | WHat idea? |
| 16:00.24 | Eraphine | orly? |
| 16:00.25 | Tem | seriously, I had that idea like 2 weeks ago |
| 16:00.27 | cladhaire | Gello came up with it too. |
| 16:00.29 | cladhaire | and posted about it |
| 16:00.32 | Tem | ah |
| 16:00.32 | cladhaire | if its the one i'm thinking |
| 16:00.44 | cladhaire | Gello made a huge "Wtf.. just do it" post. |
| 16:00.48 | Tem | I discussed it in here like 2 weeks ago |
| 16:00.49 | Eraphine | it hooks the update cooldown function |
| 16:00.53 | cladhaire | yep |
| 16:01.09 | Tem | I have a sort of working base for it |
| 16:01.10 | cladhaire | TEM: |
| 16:01.10 | cladhaire | svn |
| 16:01.13 | cladhaire | answer the question |
| 16:01.13 | cladhaire | NOW |
| 16:01.15 | Tem | WHERE damnit |
| 16:01.32 | cladhaire | one repository with projects and permissions under the main or many repositories |
| 16:03.14 | Tem | isn't it a little late? |
| 16:03.18 | cladhaire | no |
| 16:03.21 | cladhaire | we have to do it now. |
| 16:03.28 | cladhaire | but if we change it needs to be done |
| 16:03.34 | cladhaire | the svn took off ONLY because opensvn was down |
| 16:03.38 | cladhaire | and tekkub went insane |
| 16:03.50 | cladhaire | Kaelten and I were just experimenting |
| 16:04.10 | Tem | I've been doing commits to anything new there |
| 16:04.15 | cladhaire | I know you have |
| 16:04.19 | cladhaire | and i can probably import that history |
| 16:04.24 | cladhaire | thats the point tho. |
| 16:04.29 | cladhaire | we go any further, and we can't change |
| 16:04.34 | Tem | oh |
| 16:04.46 | hyperChipmunk | pow! |
| 16:04.46 | Tem | well, why don't we want to keep it the way it is now? |
| 16:04.59 | cladhaire | BEcause its hard to browse, the password sync script sucks.. |
| 16:05.04 | cladhaire | and its tough to do permissinos |
| 16:05.16 | cladhaire | there are advantages to both |
| 16:06.45 | cladhaire | what are your general feelings? |
| 16:07.28 | Tem | I'm cool with it either way |
| 16:07.39 | cladhaire | do you see any advantages of one over the other? |
| 16:08.28 | Tem | With our current setup, I think they will remain cleaner and thus faster longer |
| 16:08.35 | cladhaire | I agree |
| 16:08.45 | ckknight | also, it seems odd for a new project to have a revision number of 500 |
| 16:08.48 | cladhaire | but they're an utter nightmare.. and for peopel to browse and grab all their stuf.. they can't do it... cause of how split up they are. |
| 16:09.16 | Tem | they don't need to browse |
| 16:09.18 | ckknight | why are they browsing svn anyway? |
| 16:09.20 | ckknight | that's a dev thing |
| 16:09.30 | Tem | ^^ |
| 16:09.34 | hyperChipmunk | I can answer that |
| 16:09.41 | cladhaire | thats for them to decide, not you TBH |
| 16:10.04 | hyperChipmunk | because 9/10ths of us, our response to people looking for our addons is "use the svn" |
| 16:10.29 | hyperChipmunk | at that point, we've made it no longer a "dev thing" |
| 16:10.46 | cladhaire | because people make lots of changes and commits without releasing major versions |
| 16:10.50 | ckknight | I don't expect normal users to use the svn |
| 16:11.00 | cladhaire | Define normal users, cause we have plenty of them who do. |
| 16:11.16 | hyperChipmunk | can we do a common directory for tags |
| 16:11.18 | Tem | once they fluently use the svn, they are no longer a normal user |
| 16:11.19 | Tain | Yes and no clad. The other big reason is there are a lot of unowned addons that are only in SVN right now. Like most of Rowne's old stuff. |
| 16:11.21 | ckknight | people who download from WoWI |
| 16:11.25 | hyperChipmunk | and just force ourself to be more vigilant about doing tags |
| 16:11.46 | hyperChipmunk | that seems to be the obvious point of compromise |
| 16:11.59 | ckknight | I suppose with the new setup, could we have multiple ownership of addons? |
| 16:12.00 | hyperChipmunk | we get our dirs |
| 16:12.05 | cladhaire | ckknight: Yes. |
| 16:12.08 | hyperChipmunk | we point users to tags |
| 16:12.09 | ckknight | alright |
| 16:12.19 | cladhaire | Well lets put it this way.. with individual repositories.. I have one password file for every single repo.. and i have to keep those in sync at all times, which is the sick password hack script. |
| 16:12.29 | hyperChipmunk | that's annoying |
| 16:12.30 | hyperChipmunk | it doesn't work =P |
| 16:12.33 | ckknight | cause I'd want both hyperChipmunk and I to be able to access at least GloryLib |
| 16:12.36 | cladhaire | They also all have individual access files that have to be updated individually to give authenticated users access |
| 16:12.47 | cladhaire | With a single repo.. the access and password is all in one file. |
| 16:12.50 | hyperChipmunk | i can't do an ls on tek's repos |
| 16:12.52 | cladhaire | And I can do groups |
| 16:13.01 | cladhaire | @GloryLibDevs = ckknight, hyperchipmunk |
| 16:13.06 | ckknight | okay |
| 16:13.08 | cladhaire | and then give you guys rw access to that trunk |
| 16:13.13 | ckknight | I say go for it |
| 16:13.19 | ckknight | piss into the wind and whatnot |
| 16:13.23 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:13.53 | cladhaire | branches ALL authenticated users will have commit access to.. so we can all branch out. |
| 16:14.00 | Tem | cladhaire: if it makes managing the whole thing easier, that outweighs the other things IMO |
| 16:14.03 | cladhaire | tags will be typically one person.. unles specified otherwise. |
| 16:14.10 | cladhaire | trunk will be as requested by the dev |
| 16:14.23 | cladhaire | ckknight: Would you want both you and HC to have tag access for glory? |
| 16:14.27 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 16:14.32 | hyperChipmunk | I should not have tag access for glory |
| 16:14.38 | ckknight | ? |
| 16:14.38 | Tain | Updated VisorGUI up. |
| 16:14.40 | cladhaire | Ok |
| 16:14.53 | cladhaire | The only minor thing you guyw ill have to do.. is you won't be able to create a new project USING svn. |
| 16:15.05 | hyperChipmunk | cuz I don't trust myself to put nonsuckified stuff into other people's projects yet =) |
| 16:15.09 | cladhaire | you will have to use a web interface to do that. |
| 16:15.19 | hyperChipmunk | i can handle that |
| 16:15.22 | cladhaire | Simple and easy.. but that's how it would have to be. |
| 16:15.33 | cladhaire | it'd create the tags and trunks for you |
| 16:15.37 | cladhaire | NEXT question |
| 16:15.59 | hyperChipmunk | make it easy to script, and we can put something in our ~/bin dirs to make it less scary =) |
| 16:16.00 | cladhaire | do we go http://svn.wowace.com/wow/Ace/{tags,trunk,branches} |
| 16:16.01 | cladhaire | OR |
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| 16:16.17 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com/wow/tags/Ace, trunk/Ace, branches/Ace |
| 16:16.17 | cladhaire | ? |
| 16:16.48 | cladhaire | i.e. are tags/trun/branch root level, or under the project? |
| 16:16.51 | Tain | I think I like tags, trunk, branches all broken out. |
| 16:17.02 | hyperChipmunk | the latter is more logical, but the former will keep the users out of our stuff |
| 16:17.08 | hyperChipmunk | er, |
| 16:17.10 | hyperChipmunk | other way around |
| 16:17.35 | cladhaire | Kael likes tags/trunk/branches underneath the project name.. it seems to make more sense to us. |
| 16:17.37 | Tain | I think it makes it easier to point people at tags and only let them look at that. |
| 16:17.37 | cladhaire | but i'm okay with either. |
| 16:17.57 | Tain | I think it makes more sense from an individual project point of view to have them under the project name. |
| 16:18.18 | cladhaire | thats tthe thing.. theyr'e all so independeant. |
| 16:18.48 | cladhaire | Tem, ckknight? What do you guys think on that? |
| 16:19.00 | Tain | Yeah, but if you're comparing what you have in trunk to a specific tag, it might be easier to see them together under the project name. |
| 16:19.24 | hyperChipmunk | oh, good point |
| 16:19.31 | cladhaire | It makes the repositories .. together. |
| 16:19.34 | cladhaire | *nod* Tain |
| 16:19.44 | cladhaire | branch merge, switch operations are all made easier that way |
| 16:19.44 | Tain | Thinking from the perspective of what I've found myself actually DOING though, most of the actual hands on work goes on under trunk, for everything. |
| 16:19.55 | cladhaire | Tain: And it should for a single-dev project. |
| 16:20.04 | hyperChipmunk | do we still get that nice frontpage thing with the last comment, just with each project instead of each author? |
| 16:20.05 | cladhaire | Tain: Multiple devs should branch, change, merge |
| 16:20.08 | cladhaire | just so everythign is tracked. |
| 16:20.25 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: No, the front page will redirect to the main repo, which shows the last .. and gives you a log |
| 16:20.40 | Tem | aww |
| 16:20.42 | Tain | Yeah of course. |
| 16:20.44 | Tem | I liked the front page |
| 16:20.46 | cladhaire | i.e. you'll go here first: http://svn.wowace.com/listing.php?repname=Ace&path=%2F&sc=0 |
| 16:20.51 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 16:20.54 | cladhaire | and can link to this: |
| 16:20.54 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com/log.php?repname=Ace&path=%2F&rev=0&sc=0&isdir=1 |
| 16:20.58 | hyperChipmunk | np |
| 16:21.02 | cladhaire | which is better imo |
| 16:21.03 | hyperChipmunk | I just use a bookmark anyway |
| 16:21.19 | Tain | I think trunk/branch/tag under each project is the better way to go. |
| 16:21.21 | hyperChipmunk | but it was quite snazzy |
| 16:21.33 | Tain | It will possibly also help encourage people to actually use tags seeing it right there. |
| 16:21.41 | Tem | I think if we have the trunk, tags, ect under the project, it will require an extra directory level |
| 16:21.51 | cladhaire | Tem: Why is that? |
| 16:21.52 | Tem | for example |
| 16:22.13 | Tem | root/project/trunk/project/ |
| 16:22.19 | cladhaire | *shake* |
| 16:22.22 | cladhaire | root/project/trunk |
| 16:22.23 | hyperChipmunk | ooh |
| 16:22.24 | Tem | to keep the folder name right |
| 16:22.29 | hyperChipmunk | he makes a point! |
| 16:22.30 | cladhaire | hrm.l |
| 16:22.32 | cladhaire | hrm. |
| 16:22.53 | hyperChipmunk | darn good one, too |
| 16:22.55 | hyperChipmunk | that'd be a pain |
| 16:23.08 | cladhaire | that's why i like what we have now.. but it SUCKS |
| 16:23.18 | hyperChipmunk | and it'd destroy the "more logical" advantage of that approach |
| 16:23.38 | Cairenn | (wonders what the reactions will be) |
| 16:23.43 | Tem | it makes it harder to browse with the extra directory, but harder to maintain without the extra directory |
| 16:24.02 | cladhaire | Cairenn: HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 16:24.12 | Tain | Well I still go back to liking root/trunk/project, root/branch/project as well. :) |
| 16:24.13 | hyperChipmunk | you KNOW someone's gonna ask about thier "trunk" AddOn |
| 16:24.44 | Tem | though I agree that root/project/trunk makes more sense |
| 16:25.16 | hyperChipmunk | in the meantime.. |
| 16:25.16 | Tem | Cairenn: good lord. I've never been enough of a dick to put someone on my ignore list, but he's pushing me |
| 16:25.42 | Cairenn | yeah, well, I think I just nicely put him in his place :p |
| 16:25.51 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: I think I have glorylib done; I'm now just redoing batfu with it as a sanity test |
| 16:25.58 | ckknight | okay |
| 16:26.15 | Tain | Although you're going to need subdirs for /tags and /branches no matter what, it's only /trunk that you would save one directory level. |
| 16:26.27 | cladhaire | Ok |
| 16:26.41 | cladhaire | so we go with root/tags/project, root/branches/project, etc. |
| 16:26.51 | ckknight | lol, Cairenn |
| 16:26.58 | Tem | hehe |
| 16:27.27 | cladhaire | we'll handle the inconvenience of the switching, etc.? |
| 16:27.38 | cladhaire | i'll try to work on it. |
| 16:27.38 | Tem | what inconvenience? |
| 16:27.41 | cladhaire | now the real question |
| 16:27.45 | cladhaire | whats the root's name? |
| 16:27.46 | cladhaire | Ace? |
| 16:27.49 | cladhaire | wow? |
| 16:27.49 | Tem | no |
| 16:27.50 | cladhaire | Addons? |
| 16:27.53 | cladhaire | YourMom? |
| 16:27.54 | hyperChipmunk | chipmunkSVN |
| 16:28.01 | Tain | Root |
| 16:28.05 | Tem | root |
| 16:28.14 | cladhaire | we're going to call it root/ |
| 16:28.15 | cladhaire | I can do that. |
| 16:28.22 | hyperChipmunk | =( |
| 16:28.30 | cladhaire | any issue with me leaving the websvn at the http://svn.wowace.com? |
| 16:28.36 | Tem | root/projects/project/trunk |
| 16:28.38 | cladhaire | and just redirecting the open page to the root repository? |
| 16:28.38 | weab | I think I like YourMom. |
| 16:28.40 | Tain | I think so, I don't think it has to specify anything as far as wow/ace/etc |
| 16:28.44 | cladhaire | Tem: Whoa.. why do w need projects/ |
| 16:28.47 | hyperChipmunk | I like your mom, too, weab |
| 16:28.54 | Tem | becuase I'm redundant like that |
| 16:29.02 | cladhaire | haha. |
| 16:29.02 | cladhaire | no =) |
| 16:29.04 | Tain | Your mom's redundant on my root |
| 16:29.06 | weab | we could be one another's stepfathers |
| 16:29.10 | weab | how awkward would that be |
| 16:29.13 | cladhaire | i am my own grandpa |
| 16:30.25 | Tem | Cairenn: tell dolby nice work on the new bug notifications |
| 16:31.08 | Cairenn | will do |
| 16:31.12 | Tem | oh, noes |
| 16:31.20 | Tem | I need something to update in Catalyst |
| 16:31.26 | Tem | it's about to drop off the list |
| 16:31.31 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:31.36 | hyperChipmunk | make it cure my raid |
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| 16:31.52 | hyperChipmunk | it's seriously lacking in that functionality |
| 16:33.45 | hyperChipmunk | anyone have a horde character that can do battlegrounds? |
| 16:33.47 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 16:34.07 | ckknight | I'm my own uncle |
| 16:35.00 | hyperChipmunk | I need to know if the GetWorldStateUIInfo(1) in warsong gulch or arathi basin returns the score string for the alliance all of the time, or your own faction |
| 16:35.25 | cladhaire | you'll have to give me a minute and camp to my druid |
| 16:35.37 | hyperChipmunk | it takes an index value of 1 or 2, and I'm not sure if it's alliance, horde or us, them |
| 16:35.45 | hyperChipmunk | take as long as you need; no hurry |
| 16:35.53 | cladhaire | whats the usage in the framexml? |
| 16:36.00 | hyperChipmunk | hum |
| 16:36.05 | hyperChipmunk | good point =) |
| 16:36.07 | cladhaire | =) |
| 16:37.59 | hyperChipmunk | doh, alliance/horde is part of the function =) |
| 16:38.02 | hyperChipmunk | but |
| 16:38.05 | hyperChipmunk | makes the question easier |
| 16:38.16 | hyperChipmunk | is alliance always the top team on the alwaysupframe |
| 16:38.28 | hyperChipmunk | i can browse screenshots for that info |
| 16:38.34 | ckknight | yes, hyperChipmunk |
| 16:38.39 | cladhaire | yes they are |
| 16:38.39 | hyperChipmunk | unless you know off the top of your head |
| 16:38.41 | hyperChipmunk | good deal |
| 16:38.45 | hyperChipmunk | then alliance is 1 |
| 16:38.58 | hyperChipmunk | as it should be >8D |
| 16:39.13 | ckknight | 2 > 1 |
| 16:39.40 | Tain | One is the lonliest number that you'll ever see. |
| 16:39.55 | hyperChipmunk | it's lonely at the top |
| 16:40.32 | hyperChipmunk | and myn pulls ahead in the cliche fencing! |
| 16:40.35 | Tain | That's because the fun goes on down-low |
| 16:41.05 | hyperChipmunk | number two is the first loser |
| 16:43.19 | ckknight | 2 can be as sad as 1, it's the loneliest number since the number 1 |
| 16:44.28 | weab | ok you guys are making me all weepy |
| 16:46.14 | Tain | The Summer of Code has begun! |
| 16:46.30 | Slayman | what would u say if i would create a FuBar Addon for the rolls in raids ? ... opinions welcome |
| 16:46.59 | Neronix | Why not? |
| 16:47.02 | cladhaire | I'm exciting about the summer of code.. given subversino, gallery, freebsd. |
| 16:47.04 | Tem | I think there is one already? |
| 16:47.05 | cladhaire | lots of good projects |
| 16:47.14 | Slayman | that's why i am asking |
| 16:47.17 | hyperChipmunk | subversino? =) |
| 16:47.28 | cladhaire | yep.. spanish for "subversion" |
| 16:47.33 | hyperChipmunk | =D |
| 16:47.36 | Tem | I was going to guess Italian |
| 16:47.37 | Tain | And Cairenn twists the knife a little more. :) |
| 16:47.47 | hyperChipmunk | El Jalupo Subversino |
| 16:48.16 | cladhaire | =) |
| 16:48.35 | Tem | don't take that crap from him |
| 16:48.38 | Tain | Oh hey I've been ahead of the curve! "PLAYING video games can give boys a physical workout that raises their blood pressure and heart rate and burns as many calories as brisk walking or cycling, US researchers say." |
| 16:48.56 | Tem | there are other Dyslexic folks around who knew perfectly well what version of lua we had |
| 16:49.04 | Tem | *cough* me *cough* |
| 16:49.20 | Tem | hmm Cairenn? |
| 16:49.40 | Tem | The new bug notification thing is cool, but they don't go away after I've view them |
| 16:49.48 | Cairenn | post it |
| 16:49.59 | Slayman | u know where to search for that "who rolled what with /rnd and who won" FuBar plugin ? |
| 16:51.09 | Neronix | Tekkub posted one on the SVN (There's a topic in the addon collection forum, but there's no downloads there) |
| 16:51.20 | Neronix | but it's very different from most roll mod implementations |
| 16:51.35 | Neronix | can't remember what it was like |
| 16:52.21 | Slayman | that GreedBeacon is absolutely not what i had in mind with a plugin i want |
| 16:52.44 | Tain | Everytime I see GreedBeacon I think Greed Bacon because of Tekkub's image. |
| 16:52.47 | Tain | And I get hungry. |
| 16:52.55 | cladhaire | i agree -( |
| 16:52.56 | hyperChipmunk | that's the best image ever btw |
| 16:54.27 | Mikma | mmm. bacon |
| 16:54.55 | Mikma | topscorefu shows boss levels as -1 :( |
| 16:56.11 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 16:56.49 | Mikma | so, replacing minimap border ain't that simple as i thought :P |
| 16:57.14 | Tain | The actual graphic for the border? Takes a bit. |
| 16:57.28 | Wobin_ | had a look at Squeenix? |
| 16:57.41 | Mikma | yeap, took the script-piece from it |
| 16:57.51 | Mikma | but the image wasn't suitable :P |
| 16:57.55 | Mikma | crashed wow |
| 16:58.34 | Tem | oh? |
| 16:58.59 | Mikma | http://www.wowtextures.com/gallery2/d/3286-2/AuraRune8.jpg |
| 16:59.04 | Mikma | this is too large to replace |
| 16:59.30 | Mikma | when i resized it down from 256x256 to 192x192 then the game started to crash. the bastard |
| 16:59.41 | Mikma | and btw gimp is pimp |
| 17:00.09 | Tain | I like Gimp a lot. I still use PhotoShop because I do digital photo work and became used to it. |
| 17:00.42 | Cairenn | Mikma: it needs to be power of 2 is why |
| 17:00.54 | Cairenn | 192x192 won't work |
| 17:00.58 | Tain | Ah hah! See that, another reason why 2 is better than 1. |
| 17:01.04 | Cairenn | if 256 is too large, you need to take it down to 128 |
| 17:01.04 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 17:01.10 | hyperChipmunk | also of note |
| 17:01.13 | Mikma | aww crap |
| 17:01.20 | Mikma | then it will become to small i bet |
| 17:01.32 | hyperChipmunk | when you're dealing with GetBattlefieldScores, the faction value returned is 0 for horde and 1 for alliance |
| 17:01.32 | Mikma | and for some reason MinimapBorder:SetScale didn't work |
| 17:01.38 | Cairenn | so what you do instead is you cut it in half |
| 17:01.40 | Tain | haha |
| 17:01.42 | Cairenn | and make 2 of them |
| 17:01.44 | hyperChipmunk | :. horde are zeroes |
| 17:01.46 | Tain | We're number 0! |
| 17:02.05 | Cairenn | each half being 128x128 |
| 17:02.46 | Mikma | i have no idea what you're talking about :( |
| 17:03.44 | hyperChipmunk | I have an odd question that's always bugged me |
| 17:03.48 | hyperChipmunk | how come |
| 17:03.57 | hyperChipmunk | local numHorde, numAlliance = 0 |
| 17:04.06 | hyperChipmunk | results in numHorde==0 and numAlliance==1 |
| 17:04.41 | Tem | Mikma: gimme a tga version of that file |
| 17:05.41 | Mikma | http://www.wowtextures.com/gallery2/d/3286-2/AuraRune8.jpg |
| 17:05.43 | Tain | heh I have a blp of my custom Minimap border and for some reason I can't convert it. |
| 17:06.19 | Tem | Mikma: that's jpg |
| 17:06.23 | Mikma | Tem: if you'll manage to fix that into minimapborder i will eliminate the white strips |
| 17:06.24 | Tem | I need tga |
| 17:06.27 | Mikma | hmm baf |
| 17:06.34 | Mikma | http://www.wowtextures.com/gallery2/d/3286-2/AuraRune8.tga |
| 17:06.35 | Tem | I want to crash wow |
| 17:06.50 | Mikma | wan't the 192x192 .tga? ;) |
| 17:06.55 | Mikma | that crashes mine |
| 17:07.12 | Mikma | that 256x256 works but is way too large |
| 17:08.15 | Tem | yes, I want the 192x192 tga |
| 17:08.27 | Mikma | i'll upload it |
| 17:08.49 | cladhaire | I need a good bottom texture |
| 17:09.19 | Mikma | mikma.homelinux.net/AuraRune.tga |
| 17:10.08 | Wobin_ | <Miravlix> I mostly have to limit myself, because it's a goal of mine that the code is easily modifiable by most lua coders. |
| 17:10.14 | Wobin_ | *facepalm* |
| 17:10.23 | Mikma | Tem: you'll still gotta remember that i play with mac ;) so it might not crash with pc |
| 17:10.34 | Tem | bah |
| 17:11.09 | Wobin_ | Way to sound arrogant and insult the majority of people on the channel at the same time =P |
| 17:11.14 | [MoonWolf] | ishara has worked with computers that used punch cards.....] |
| 17:11.21 | [MoonWolf] | :O |
| 17:11.28 | Wobin_ | Miravlix is a work of art =P |
| 17:11.49 | Mikma | Tem: i used these 2 lines to load the .tga within my addon: |
| 17:11.52 | Mikma | -- MinimapBorder:SetTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\Mikma\\AuraRune") |
| 17:11.52 | Mikma | -- MinimapBorderTop:SetTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\Mikma\\AuraRune") |
| 17:12.43 | Tem | does nothing on my client |
| 17:13.00 | Tem | you should report it as a mac bug |
| 17:13.19 | Mikma | i'm really hoping it's 1.10 bug which will be fixed in 1.10.1 |
| 17:13.59 | Neronix | Would texture replacement cause any performance loss? |
| 17:14.37 | Mikma | Tem: and, reporting it in EU forums is as good as not doing it, the twats don't do anything that's reported there |
| 17:14.55 | Tem | you guys haven't had 1.10.1 released yet? |
| 17:15.10 | Mikma | hell no, they had some issues and delayed it for a week |
| 17:15.25 | Tem | >< |
| 17:15.42 | Mikma | i was kinda surprised when the game didn't start to take patch |
| 17:15.48 | Mikma | extended maintenance for nothing |
| 17:16.03 | Neronix | same here >.< |
| 17:16.32 | otravi | thundergot wouldn't answer on why they didn't just slam in 10.1 as fast as possible :( |
| 17:17.00 | [MoonWolf] | thundgot is awesome but he only gets to tell us what blizzard wants us to know. |
| 17:17.01 | Mikma | eu-forums... |
| 17:17.25 | [MoonWolf] | one on one thundgot would pwn all the us CM's |
| 17:17.34 | Mikma | " Due to some problems with the latest patch it was held back and not applied on the European realms during the maintenance. The problem has now been corrected, but as the maintenance window has passed the patch will be delayed until next week?s maintenance." |
| 17:17.37 | [MoonWolf] | and if that fails, we still have aeus. |
| 17:18.02 | Mikma | "Thank you for your understanding on this matter." |
| 17:18.02 | [MoonWolf] | Inventer of hug a GM day. |
| 17:18.17 | Mikma | yeah sure i understand, hope they can restore my friendlist too :) |
| 17:20.00 | Mikma | Tem: btw, did the picture even show in your game? |
| 17:20.01 | otravi | [MoonWolf]: yeh, he is a really nice guy :) |
| 17:20.06 | Tem | no |
| 17:20.08 | otravi | gave us posters and t-shirts :---D |
| 17:20.22 | Mikma | Tem: try the 256x256, it should be visible |
| 17:28.38 | cladhaire | Tem: I can import histories fromt he current svn without any issue |
| 17:28.51 | Tem | cladhaire: awesome |
| 17:28.56 | cladhaire | just imported your entire svn onto svn.wowace.com/Test |
| 17:29.47 | [MoonWolf] | cladhaire, please leave my svn like it is. |
| 17:29.51 | cladhaire | .. |
| 17:29.52 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 17:30.15 | [MoonWolf] | I dont want to loose any changes there. |
| 17:30.19 | cladhaire | .. you won't. |
| 17:30.21 | cladhaire | that's the whole point |
| 17:30.47 | [MoonWolf] | cool |
| 17:30.50 | [MoonWolf] | forget i said anything |
| 17:31.17 | cladhaire | i always do =) |
| 17:31.30 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 17:31.31 | Tem | ouch |
| 17:31.42 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, what's the status on GloryLib? |
| 17:32.40 | hyperChipmunk | finishing touches =D |
| 17:32.49 | hyperChipmunk | there's some stuff I'm not sure will work |
| 17:33.03 | hyperChipmunk | but I think at least you'll be able to get the gist and correct it pretty easily |
| 17:33.33 | hyperChipmunk | BatFu under 600 lines now =x |
| 17:33.57 | [MoonWolf] | moving lines into a lib and then including the lib does not count! |
| 17:34.10 | ckknight | why not? |
| 17:34.21 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 17:34.33 | hyperChipmunk | actually, I'm knocking off lines legitimately too |
| 17:34.38 | hyperChipmunk | by the nature of the library API |
| 17:34.39 | groll | damnit boss u update to often :P |
| 17:34.50 | hyperChipmunk | it's much froodier |
| 17:34.50 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.59 | hyperChipmunk | arg, afk |
| 17:35.03 | Mikma | does the raid-frames really cause the memory increaserate to rise into roof |
| 17:35.03 | groll | yaya once a week would be better ;P |
| 17:35.07 | ckknight | why? |
| 17:35.17 | groll | i have to log out and update :P |
| 17:35.18 | ckknight | you're saying, "please don't update your addons" |
| 17:35.21 | groll | ie not good :P |
| 17:35.27 | ckknight | why do you have to log out? |
| 17:35.36 | groll | crap comp :P |
| 17:35.44 | ckknight | you know what you can do |
| 17:35.48 | ckknight | just not pay attention to my mods |
| 17:35.52 | ckknight | then once a week, update |
| 17:35.55 | groll | haha no i love them :D |
| 17:36.00 | groll | have to update :D |
| 17:36.00 | ckknight | hehe |
| 17:36.08 | ckknight | yea, the new version should fix the repositioning issues |
| 17:36.11 | Mikma | 75.9KiB/s |
| 17:36.12 | Mikma | yay |
| 17:36.12 | ckknight | theoretically |
| 17:37.11 | Cairenn | who wrote TouristLib? |
| 17:37.16 | Cairenn | that you ckknight? |
| 17:37.22 | ckknight | yea |
| 17:37.39 | ckknight | why? |
| 17:37.49 | Tain | Mikma are you trying to make the inner circle or the outer circle of that image run against the actual border of the minimap? |
| 17:37.56 | Cairenn | okay, just dumped the new fubar and stuff in, did a reload, got this: |
| 17:38.24 | Cairenn | "Interface\AddOns\FuBar_LocationFu\TouristLib.lua:283" table index is nil" |
| 17:38.32 | ckknight | ... |
| 17:39.15 | Mikma | Tain: don't know yet because i didn't get it positioned, wait a tick i'll look |
| 17:39.15 | Cairenn | put the 4 updates in |
| 17:39.30 | ckknight | woah, that is wrong |
| 17:39.35 | Cairenn | figured you'd want to know |
| 17:39.55 | Cairenn | may be "wrong" but that's the error message I received |
| 17:39.58 | Tain | Mikma this works for me, just tested. Inner cicle of the image lines up against the minimap. http://crushingdreams.com/images/AuraRune.tga |
| 17:40.01 | Mikma | Tain: the inner circle |
| 17:40.16 | Tain | Hard to see though unless it's on a dark background. |
| 17:40.39 | Mikma | Tain: thanks, i'll test it now since we wiped at MC entrance haha |
| 17:40.46 | hyperChipmunk | think I'm done, boss =) |
| 17:40.52 | hyperChipmunk | not tested |
| 17:41.02 | hyperChipmunk | but I'll at least let you get started |
| 17:41.29 | hyperChipmunk | BatFu is 600 lines exactly =D |
| 17:41.46 | ckknight | lol |
| 17:41.52 | ckknight | how not tested? |
| 17:42.01 | hyperChipmunk | no battlegrounds today =P |
| 17:42.03 | hyperChipmunk | yet |
| 17:42.20 | hyperChipmunk | glorylib 1326 lines =x |
| 17:43.16 | groll | hmm how hard would it be to write an addon that did a /who to check a certain area for ppl and if more than x amount from the same guild is there announce it. and more than one area ofcourse :D |
| 17:43.21 | Mikma | Tain: ZOMG you did it :D |
| 17:44.03 | Mikma | Tain: does it require what if i wan't to move the picture 1-2 pixels up? |
| 17:44.29 | ckknight | okay, fixed, Cairenn |
| 17:44.35 | ckknight | no battlegrounds today? |
| 17:44.37 | ckknight | how come? |
| 17:45.13 | Neronix | just got an oink.me.uk invite :D |
| 17:45.17 | ckknight | ? |
| 17:45.20 | ckknight | what's that? |
| 17:45.34 | Neronix | the best private music BT tracker |
| 17:45.36 | Neronix | and community |
| 17:45.38 | [MoonWolf] | bittorrent file sharing site. |
| 17:45.42 | ckknight | oh |
| 17:45.45 | ckknight | I use TorrentIT |
| 17:45.50 | ckknight | not for music, though |
| 17:46.09 | Cairenn | ckknight: no error on reload this time |
| 17:46.12 | ckknight | I can typically get 1.25 MiB/s |
| 17:46.15 | groll | oooh musci torrents hmm i want an invite aswell :P |
| 17:46.18 | ckknight | yea, I wrote loc.k instead of k |
| 17:46.27 | ckknight | it was a search and replace deal I thnik |
| 17:47.03 | Neronix | groll: You'll need to find someone who's a Power User+ on the site |
| 17:47.13 | Tain | Mikma what I did was open the original Minimap frame to get the right position, and paste that as a new layer on top of it to match up. |
| 17:47.37 | Mikma | Tain: meh, smart :D |
| 17:47.47 | Tain | But you could easily move that position around some, you just have to do it in the image itself, not in the game. |
| 17:47.55 | groll | Neronix become one ;P |
| 17:47.59 | Mikma | Tain: do you have the original minimap border as tga somewhere? |
| 17:48.04 | Tain | Yeah |
| 17:48.07 | Mikma | i might try that out too myself :) |
| 17:48.18 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: I don't control the queues =P |
| 17:48.18 | Mikma | deleting the stupid stripes and making it a bit more brighter |
| 17:48.28 | groll | i really need a good music place heh i just got crap places to dl from :( |
| 17:48.30 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, blasphemy! |
| 17:48.41 | ckknight | I'm in a bg now, you can do it too |
| 17:48.58 | Tain | http://crushingdreams.com/images/UI-Minimap-Border_orig.tga |
| 17:49.10 | Mikma | Tain: thank you *bow* |
| 17:49.32 | Tain | You're welcome! I did some minimap stuff a while back so I still remember it |
| 17:49.53 | Mikma | well no wonder then why it happened so fast :) |
| 17:50.36 | Neronix | groll: will do :P |
| 17:50.44 | groll | Neronix thanks ;P |
| 17:50.47 | Neronix | I need to upload 10gb and be a member for at least 2 weeks |
| 17:50.56 | Tain | Yeah took me a little bit of learning how it all works |
| 17:51.12 | Neronix | and have a good ratio |
| 17:51.36 | Mikma | you guys should make a "howto.wowace.com" ;) |
| 17:56.07 | Tain | I had done this previously, Mikma for a custom Minimap. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4398 |
| 17:56.38 | Mikma | oh yeah, i have tried that |
| 17:59.56 | hyperChipmunk | okay |
| 18:00.02 | hyperChipmunk | BatFu doesn't work at all =) |
| 18:00.04 | hyperChipmunk | but no errors |
| 18:00.19 | hyperChipmunk | I'll commit what i have |
| 18:01.47 | hyperChipmunk | after I rerun my password script, that is =P |
| 18:02.42 | hyperChipmunk | done |
| 18:03.18 | Mikma | woot! 155KiB/s |
| 18:03.37 | hyperChipmunk | http://svn.wowace.com/listing.php?repname=hyperactiveChipmunk&path=%2Ftrunk%2FFuBar_BattlegroundFu%2F#_trunk_FuBar_BattlegroundFu_ |
| 18:03.44 | Mikma | something's eating up the mem when there's lot's of action on screen |
| 18:04.01 | ckknight | BatFu doesn't work at all? |
| 18:04.08 | ckknight | wtf? |
| 18:04.27 | hyperChipmunk | http://svn.wowace.com/hc/trunk/FuBar_BattlegroundFu/ |
| 18:04.29 | hyperChipmunk | there |
| 18:04.30 | hyperChipmunk | use that link |
| 18:04.33 | Tain | Wow, the owner of RealDolls, manufacturer of realistic sex dolls, says over half of his customers work in IT or Engineering. |
| 18:04.34 | hyperChipmunk | dude, I'm working on it =( |
| 18:05.09 | Mikma | Tain: haha |
| 18:05.39 | Wobin_ | Tain: hehe |
| 18:06.42 | hyperChipmunk | you either get it now, or give me some time to debug |
| 18:07.18 | hyperChipmunk | if you don't want to look at it, you don't have to, but I figure you can at least start unsucking some of my code |
| 18:08.48 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, you don't have the creature yell event? |
| 18:09.01 | hyperChipmunk | oh, right |
| 18:09.16 | hyperChipmunk | it's the same as horde and alliance though |
| 18:09.31 | hyperChipmunk | oh, I know why BatFu doesn't work |
| 18:09.47 | hyperChipmunk | cuz I didn't do any event stuff =) |
| 18:10.04 | hyperChipmunk | i mean |
| 18:10.06 | hyperChipmunk | I did it in glorylib |
| 18:10.14 | hyperChipmunk | I just didn't set batfu up to receive it |
| 18:11.08 | hyperChipmunk | events.CHAT_MONSTER_YELL = events.CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE |
| 18:11.33 | ckknight | you never register it |
| 18:11.54 | hyperChipmunk | ok, add that too =P |
| 18:12.00 | hyperChipmunk | like i said, no bg's today |
| 18:13.11 | ckknight | I don't get your comment style |
| 18:13.22 | Tain | This guy is going to have a real bad time in prison. 30 year old guy broke into a house and tried to attack a 9 year old girl and the whooped up on him because she'd been studying Judo. |
| 18:14.07 | ckknight | see, that's why you gotta take chloroform with you |
| 18:14.09 | hyperChipmunk | oh, searching for ---- gives me the subcategories of comments |
| 18:14.13 | hyperChipmunk | er, code |
| 18:14.17 | Mikma | Tain: HAHA! that's cool |
| 18:14.47 | hyperChipmunk | -- major categories (in this case, wherever my stuff is inserted) |
| 18:15.50 | hyperChipmunk | lemee alone =( I'm doin' my best |
| 18:20.08 | Mikma | Shyva: yo dude, you here? |
| 18:20.13 | id` | wheeee |
| 18:20.16 | id` | ium doing wsg again |
| 18:20.25 | Shyva | yea, I'm here |
| 18:20.33 | [MoonWolf] | id`, playing wow again ? |
| 18:21.33 | id` | yes |
| 18:21.38 | id` | ^^ |
| 18:21.43 | Mikma | Shyva: there's a little spam-bug with magmadar on bigwigs |
| 18:21.54 | Shyva | you got the newest version? |
| 18:22.13 | Mikma | yeah i think so, downloaded it yesterday after tekkub submitted the new one |
| 18:22.46 | Shyva | did lucifron spam? |
| 18:22.58 | Mikma | Shyva: didn't notice, wasn't that close |
| 18:22.58 | id` | heh horde won \o/ |
| 18:23.48 | Shyva | hmhm |
| 18:24.00 | Mikma | Shyva: need a screenie? |
| 18:24.22 | Shyva | nope, I know what you mean, I thought I fixed it yesterday night... |
| 18:24.42 | Mikma | wait a tick i'll check the time i changed BW |
| 18:24.58 | hyperChipmunk | argh, I whacked things up bad =\ |
| 18:25.03 | Mikma | Today, 3:02AM :D |
| 18:25.20 | Shyva | Hmm, Mikma, I found the bug. |
| 18:25.21 | ckknight | yea, hyperChipmunk, I can already see some API changes that'll be made |
| 18:25.27 | Shyva | fixed it now.. |
| 18:25.36 | Mikma | Shyva: goodie :) |
| 18:26.29 | Shyva | Tekkub, are you here? |
| 18:29.01 | Mikma | Shyva: btw this is full mc-run so i will be testing out every boss :) |
| 18:29.49 | Shyva | cool, I tested every thing except Major and Rag (I'm pretty sure I made some mistakes there..) |
| 18:30.19 | Mikma | btw i wondered about the timexbar on magmadar |
| 18:30.35 | Mikma | it started from 30 but still it hit something like -3 before he AoE feared |
| 18:31.22 | Shyva | Hmm, maybe I should make the bar 33 sec then.. the problem is, sometimes he fears in 31... sometimes in 30, sometimes in 32... |
| 18:31.56 | Mikma | Shyva: so it changes.. ok then i think i saw correctly him fearing once with 0 too :) |
| 18:32.34 | Shyva | :-) |
| 18:36.11 | hyperChipmunk | doh, duh |
| 18:36.23 | hyperChipmunk | ok, problem isn't as bad as I feared =) |
| 18:39.29 | hyperChipmunk | aha |
| 18:39.31 | hyperChipmunk | it all works again |
| 18:40.15 | hyperChipmunk | remember that stuff I asked about the german client yesterday? I took out the localization, but didn't change all the places in the code where it referred to it |
| 18:40.36 | hyperChipmunk | and two self:GetBGAcronyms that needed to be glory:GetBGAcronyms |
| 18:42.49 | ckknight | lol |
| 18:43.13 | ckknight | so it works? |
| 18:44.05 | hyperChipmunk | committed =) |
| 18:44.35 | hyperChipmunk | now if I could get into a bg to test the in-bg stuff =P |
| 18:49.07 | ckknight | I'll wait |
| 18:49.18 | ckknight | I'd rather have a workable base to work off of |
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| 19:13.02 | ckknight | well, pretty much, just tell me when you've done a bg that you're confident in your GloryLib changes |
| 19:13.08 | ckknight | then I'll hake it up to the extreme |
| 19:13.10 | ckknight | hack* |
| 19:14.17 | Mikma | Shyva: change the text "AoE Fear" -> "AoE Fear in about" |
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| 19:21.24 | Shyva | too long imo... |
| 19:21.33 | Mikma | o'rly? ;) |
| 19:21.48 | Shyva | y'rly! no'wai? ya'wai! |
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| 19:22.03 | hyperChipmunk | alrighty; but I insist you stop that join/quit crap; it's quite annoying >8) |
| 19:22.47 | Mikma | well geddon worked propably like it should |
| 19:23.01 | Mikma | only displayd who's the bomb and who got me killed |
| 19:25.13 | ckknight_ | anyone have an idea why my connection would keep disconnecting? I'm not getting DOS'd... |
| 19:25.19 | ckknight_ | and everything is laggy |
| 19:25.27 | Mikma | porn porn porn |
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| 19:30.41 | Mikma | Tain: btw, why are the AuraRune.tga tilted in different position than the original minimap border? |
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| 19:38.00 | ckknight | blasted cable company. |
| 19:38.00 | ckknight | it's not my server's fault |
| 19:38.03 | ckknight | I'm not getting DOS'd |
| 19:38.09 | ckknight | therefore, it must be the cable company |
| 19:41.40 | hyperChipmunk | alien energy rays |
| 19:41.45 | Mikma | zap |
| 19:41.52 | hyperChipmunk | pew |
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| 19:43.32 | Mikma | god damn, i need ignore list for heals |
| 19:44.12 | ckknight | ? |
| 19:44.41 | Mikma | yeah :D "if the person is blacklisted, do not heal" |
| 19:45.08 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that's productive |
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| 19:50.53 | Shyva | http://www.partingvisions.com/onywipe/onyxiawipe.swf it's damn funny xD |
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| 19:52.16 | id` | Darn I think I want a little too far with checking out new AddOns |
| 19:52.22 | id` | now have 54 AddOns lol :< |
| 19:52.35 | Shyva | heh |
| 19:52.38 | Mikma | that's minimum ;) |
| 19:52.43 | id` | (and i already had 100MB RAM left and 20 FPS MAX) |
| 19:52.59 | id` | used to use only 16MB of ram with all ym addons :> |
| 19:53.25 | id` | o wellll fubar check-out goodness time stuff |
| 19:54.17 | Shyva | btw, I need some help with Visor, I got this button which does Ace:print("click") OnClick, how can I make that work with the hotkey bound to it? |
| 19:55.03 | Mikma | heh, from key config ;) |
| 19:55.29 | Mikma | (i really don't know, haven't used visor) |
| 19:55.43 | hyperChipmunk | it's in there |
| 19:55.46 | hyperChipmunk | Action Button X |
| 19:56.01 | Shyva | well, if I pres the key it doesn't execute the OnClick code.. :-S |
| 19:56.10 | id` | Hey im only using 23MB now >_o |
| 19:56.52 | Mikma | i'm using 24MiB+ and i'm raiding MC :) |
| 19:57.01 | Mikma | with my rogue i have 16MiB max |
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| 19:58.06 | Boss_ | grr... |
| 19:58.23 | Shyva | you need more clones ckknight, ckknight_, ckknight__, Boss_ ? |
| 19:58.49 | Mikma | how am i supposed to know which PPC processor i have, 5 or 6 :( |
| 19:58.54 | Boss_ | yea |
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| 20:05.02 | hyperChipmunk | BatFu still bzorks wow |
| 20:06.50 | Neronix | Shyva: lmfao |
| 20:06.58 | Neronix | was that a recordign from a real raid? |
| 20:07.24 | hyperChipmunk | well, I guess we can say GloryLib bzorks wow |
| 20:07.38 | hyperChipmunk | on a CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE |
| 20:08.19 | Shyva | yep it is Neronix, not my guild ofc, some guild on Chrommagus EU |
| 20:08.42 | Shyva | the recording is getting old, but the animation is new ^_- |
| 20:09.24 | Neronix | I see |
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| 20:11.25 | ckknight_ | bzorks? |
| 20:11.39 | ckknight_ | my code was working for CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE |
| 20:11.41 | hyperChipmunk | fatal exception |
| 20:11.48 | hyperChipmunk | so was mine! |
| 20:11.59 | hyperChipmunk | goin through it now |
| 20:12.04 | ckknight_ | link? |
| 20:12.28 | ckknight_ | nvm |
| 20:12.28 | ckknight_ | got it |
| 20:12.28 | hyperChipmunk | I'll pastebin what it looks like |
| 20:12.39 | hyperChipmunk | crap, I missed wsg while I was dealing with the error =( |
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| 20:17.52 | ckknight__ | maybe it was a fluke? |
| 20:18.02 | hyperChipmunk | it happened 3 times |
| 20:18.30 | hyperChipmunk | exactly corresponding to a sound queue that accompanies a battlefield objective message |
| 20:18.43 | hyperChipmunk | in both wsg and ab |
| 20:19.06 | ckknight__ | did you send a report in to blizzard? |
| 20:19.30 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I send those everytime I crash |
| 20:19.44 | ckknight__ | hrm |
| 20:19.56 | ckknight__ | okay, have you thought about commenting out certain portions of code? |
| 20:20.01 | hyperChipmunk | I'm doing that |
| 20:20.07 | hyperChipmunk | waiting for next bg =) |
| 20:20.16 | ckknight__ | okay |
| 20:20.35 | hyperChipmunk | that one ended before I got a chance to do anything about it |
| 20:20.48 | hyperChipmunk | and wsg popped while I was d/c |
| 20:21.23 | hyperChipmunk | now I'm waiting out a deserter debuff cuz I d/c'ed from the bg |
| 20:22.04 | ckknight__ | ah |
| 20:22.10 | ckknight__ | that sucks' |
| 20:22.12 | ckknight__ | it really does |
| 20:22.27 | ckknight__ | I think they should only do that if you /afk out, not if you d/c |
| 20:22.28 | hyperChipmunk | there really ought to be a better way to test battleground code |
| 20:22.49 | ckknight__ | yea |
| 20:22.49 | ckknight__ | or just a better API to start off with |
| 20:22.56 | hyperChipmunk | well that's the thing |
| 20:23.14 | hyperChipmunk | the worst-APIed part of the game is the one that's hardest to debug |
| 20:23.37 | ckknight__ | yea |
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| 20:24.04 | ckknight__ | hrm, haven't d/c'd in like 10 minutes now... |
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| 20:30.32 | hyperChipmunk | =x |
| 20:33.35 | Mikma | aww fuck :( os x won't let me install x11 since it thinks i have never version installed |
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| 20:52.26 | Shyva | Mikma, are the mods working good? ^^ |
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| 20:54.38 | Jagobah | happy happy birthday ( '-') |
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| 21:01.01 | Mikma | Shyva: so far so good |
| 21:02.02 | Shyva | where are you know? :-d |
| 21:02.14 | Mikma | wiped at domo |
| 21:02.19 | Mikma | this is something new really |
| 21:02.31 | Shyva | ok :-) |
| 21:02.41 | Mikma | this is normally a fast run but we have wiped too many times already |
| 21:02.49 | Shyva | Hmm, sucks.. |
| 21:03.32 | Mikma | well we have something like 5 non-guildies with us atm :P so 34 guildmembers and nobody seems to care about anything |
| 21:03.42 | Shyva | we had yesterday some bad luck.. the main tank was one day off, and then left bindings droped... the only thing he still needs :-| |
| 21:03.51 | Mikma | the day we got the 5h bwl run completed everyone lost interest |
| 21:05.31 | Mikma | well, i'm installing X11 and watching orange county choppers at the same time :) |
| 21:05.53 | ckknight | lol, this is great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHt5USBMxkc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Freligiousfreaks%2Ecom%2F |
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| 21:07.50 | hyperChipmunk | looks like it doesn't crash with your code commented out, boss =x |
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| 21:14.38 | ckknight__ | hyperChipmunk, I really doubt my code is the problem |
| 21:14.38 | ckknight__ | what happens if you comment out your part? |
| 21:14.56 | hyperChipmunk | trying that next; fixing some typos while I'm not crashing |
| 21:15.11 | ckknight__ | okay |
| 21:15.17 | Shyva | I lol'd ckknight__ (at that movie xD) |
| 21:15.35 | ckknight__ | yea |
| 21:15.38 | ckknight__ | pretty funny |
| 21:15.49 | Mikma | woot i can't believe this, i really got X11 installed ;) |
| 21:15.57 | Mikma | Gimp pimp here i come rofl |
| 21:16.18 | ckknight__ | lol |
| 21:17.08 | hyperChipmunk | k, my stuff commented |
| 21:17.09 | hyperChipmunk | your stuff not |
| 21:18.15 | hyperChipmunk | =D the scoreboard stuff works |
| 21:18.28 | Mikma | hey, is the BG scoreboard fixed already? |
| 21:18.33 | Mikma | in 1.9 it was too small |
| 21:18.45 | ckknight__ | ? |
| 21:18.56 | Mikma | yeah, the finishing scoreboard |
| 21:20.23 | Mikma | it was like 50% too small and half of the texts were outside the window |
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| 21:20.56 | hyperChipmunk | =x no crash w/o your stuff |
| 21:21.01 | hyperChipmunk | er, w/o my stuff |
| 21:21.20 | hyperChipmunk | uncommenting both again O_o |
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| 21:27.17 | id` | who here plays on EU and wants to play together? ill make a new char. |
| 21:27.27 | id` | I want a fresh start. |
| 21:27.35 | ckknight | sorry, US here |
| 21:27.40 | Eraphine | hrm. |
| 21:27.41 | ckknight | fresh starts are nice |
| 21:27.46 | id` | yea |
| 21:27.47 | Mikma | <- EU Nordrassil |
| 21:27.52 | Eraphine | does visor support different profiles? |
| 21:28.02 | id` | Eraphine: Ace supports it |
| 21:28.03 | id` | ;) |
| 21:28.09 | id` | Mikma: horde/alliance |
| 21:28.23 | Mikma | alliance |
| 21:28.28 | Mikma | it's pve :P |
| 21:28.31 | id` | Ive been wanting to make a priest |
| 21:28.33 | id` | Mikma: thats ok |
| 21:29.05 | Mikma | i've got a lvl31 rogue that i'm leveling now :) |
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| 21:30.05 | id` | female elf priest, how about that :o |
| 21:30.17 | ckknight | elves are icky |
| 21:30.19 | Mikma | meh, i already have one ;) |
| 21:30.49 | Mikma | it's my main in nordrassil |
| 21:31.58 | Mikma | "Impossible, stay your attack, mortals!" |
| 21:32.10 | hyperChipmunk | lol, no crashes |
| 21:32.19 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:32.25 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 21:32.31 | hyperChipmunk | freaking gnomes |
| 21:32.44 | id` | Now I need a name; Mishani, Kaiku, Faelivrin, Lucia <-- any good one in there? |
| 21:33.04 | hyperChipmunk | my battlefield objective table isn't being created |
| 21:33.05 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 21:33.26 | Mikma | hmm i have used "Misha" name in other server once ;) But Lucia is pretty |
| 21:34.01 | Mikma | lucia already exists :P |
| 21:35.17 | id` | Mikma: you name stealer, you tried it before me :( |
| 21:35.20 | id` | :p |
| 21:35.50 | ckknight | for female names, I try to stick with m or soft g sounds |
| 21:36.32 | Mikma | la-la-la-laaaagforce |
| 21:38.11 | id` | named here Esya |
| 21:38.13 | id` | her* |
| 21:38.52 | Mikma | rofl, for some wicked reason i see almost every item i have as "repair cost: 3s" :D |
| 21:39.08 | Mikma | 6x Runecloths have 4c repair |
| 21:39.12 | Mikma | sorry not silver, copper |
| 21:40.34 | ckknight | odd |
| 21:40.39 | ckknight | not my fault :-P |
| 21:40.52 | Mikma | ohly happens when i have merchant window open |
| 21:41.17 | hyperChipmunk | crash in wsg =( |
| 21:41.40 | Mikma | merchant window + repair item selected and i see weird prices :D |
| 21:44.22 | hyperChipmunk | no crash without your code |
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| 21:44.49 | ckknight_ | idea: |
| 21:44.55 | Mikma | i like it |
| 21:44.59 | Mikma | ;D |
| 21:44.59 | ckknight_ | what if you disable BatFu, but still have GloryLib run? |
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| 21:51.06 | ckknight_ | this disconnecting bit is starting to piss me off |
| 21:51.37 | Mikma | i bet your sending \n somewhere to chat xD |
| 21:51.47 | hyperChipmunk | crash |
| 21:53.13 | ckknight_ | these are crashing with fatal exceptions? |
| 21:53.22 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 21:53.22 | ckknight_ | or freezes followed by d/c's? |
| 21:53.24 | ckknight_ | hrm |
| 21:53.28 | ckknight_ | weird... |
| 21:53.35 | hyperChipmunk | goin to your code only, no batfu |
| 21:54.06 | hyperChipmunk | crash |
| 21:54.30 | ckknight_ | crash with what? |
| 21:54.39 | hyperChipmunk | my code commented out |
| 21:54.44 | Mikma | oh btw i had some interesting crashes with 3rd party textures when 1.10 came out |
| 21:54.47 | hyperChipmunk | GloryLib running through HonorFu |
| 21:54.52 | hyperChipmunk | BattlegroundFu not loaded |
| 21:55.07 | hyperChipmunk | doing sections of your code now |
| 21:55.41 | Mikma | are you using extra images? |
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| 21:56.27 | Mikma | my game crashed when i downloaded mg2.62 and tried it out in silithus |
| 21:56.39 | Mikma | everytime a druid moonfired me my game crashed and i died :) |
| 21:56.47 | hyperChipmunk | actually, doing the same with BatFu enabled and HonorFu disabled first |
| 21:57.43 | hyperChipmunk | no crash |
| 21:57.48 | hyperChipmunk | the problem is in HonorFu |
| 21:58.11 | ckknight__ | ... |
| 21:58.20 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 21:58.34 | hyperChipmunk | uncommented everything |
| 21:58.35 | ckknight__ | well, I can't work on it now, cause of the disconnecting |
| 21:58.48 | ckknight__ | if you can find the bug, that'd be cool |
| 21:58.57 | hyperChipmunk | doin what I can |
| 21:59.13 | hyperChipmunk | I do have a match going too =) |
| 21:59.33 | hyperChipmunk | crap, nope |
| 21:59.44 | hyperChipmunk | I had BatFu disabled on the bar =x |
| 21:59.54 | hyperChipmunk | enabled it, crash again |
| 22:00.05 | ckknight__ | ... |
| 22:00.11 | ckknight__ | what about just HonorFu? |
| 22:00.19 | hyperChipmunk | crashes |
| 22:00.27 | ckknight__ | what about neither HonorFu nor BatFu |
| 22:00.31 | ckknight__ | just GloryLib as its own addon |
| 22:00.46 | hyperChipmunk | that's gonna have to wait for a new match |
| 22:01.04 | hyperChipmunk | I'm not set up that way |
| 22:01.18 | ckknight__ | you could comment out all of BatFu or something |
| 22:01.20 | ckknight__ | temporarily |
| 22:01.26 | hyperChipmunk | and I think we'll win before I get back in |
| 22:01.32 | ckknight__ | hrm |
| 22:01.54 | hyperChipmunk | done; we'll see |
| 22:02.15 | hyperChipmunk | too late |
| 22:02.20 | ckknight__ | hrm |
| 22:02.31 | hyperChipmunk | we'll see next match |
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| 22:29.59 | Shyva | http://ace.pastebin.com/662218, when I open the mainframe, none of the buttons / art show up, anyone can see what I did wrong? :-S |
| 22:31.20 | Shyva | .. The art does show up now.. now the buttons :-S |
| 22:34.48 | Shyva | n/m ^^ found it ;p |
| 22:35.29 | Shyva | or not :-| |
| 22:39.46 | Shyva | Is there any ways to set "inherits" with a lua function? :-/ |
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| 22:47.20 | ckknight | ingerits? |
| 22:47.21 | hyperChipmunk | I don't believe so |
| 22:47.24 | ckknight | inherits* |
| 22:47.26 | ckknight | what do you mean? |
| 22:47.35 | hyperChipmunk | for a CreateFrame |
| 22:47.36 | hyperChipmunk | I thnk |
| 22:47.59 | kergoth | there isnt a way. someone was working on a lib to facilitate that sort of thing |
| 22:48.41 | Shyva | ckknight, this -> inherits="GameMenuButtonTemplate" |
| 22:49.34 | ckknight | ah, no |
| 22:49.51 | ckknight | i wish |
| 22:50.08 | Shyva | so I need to make a button exactly like GameMenuButtonTemplate to get the same? what a waste :-| |
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| 22:53.27 | ckknight | any more prospects on what's happening with the crashes? |
| 22:54.53 | hyperChipmunk | will let you know next time I get in a bg |
| 22:55.19 | hyperChipmunk | they're all separate now, though |
| 22:56.37 | pagefault | weeee |
| 22:56.53 | Jagobah | I have a really noob question. I'm trying to make a macro that activates a trinket if the cooldown is up, and if it isn't, use an item in my inventory. I'm looking at http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetInventoryItemCooldown and I can't seem to figure out the logic in using the returned "duration" variable. Any suggestions? |
| 22:58.46 | ckknight | you'd want to check if duration == 0 |
| 22:58.53 | ckknight | then use a trinket |
| 22:59.00 | ckknight | otherwise use the other thing |
| 23:00.01 | kergoth | Shyva: someone is working on a templating system done in lua. dont remember who though. |
| 23:00.29 | ckknight | Tekkub? |
| 23:00.38 | Shyva | heh, okay |
| 23:01.14 | Shyva | why cann't Soulken just make a func like SetInherit and GetInherit... :-S |
| 23:01.27 | ckknight | Slouken |
| 23:01.28 | ckknight | it's hard |
| 23:01.38 | ckknight | cause it's normally done by xml parsing |
| 23:01.49 | hyperChipmunk | cuz you're going from XML->...right |
| 23:02.14 | ckknight | templates don't "exist" after the xml has been parsed |
| 23:02.39 | Shyva | hmz, I don't really have a lot of other coding knowlade, so I belive you :P |
| 23:03.22 | ckknight | well, my disconnecting issues seem to be alleved |
| 23:03.38 | Jagobah | the macro I banged out was this: |
| 23:03.44 | Jagobah | /script if GetInventoryItemCooldown("player",GetInventorySlotInfo("Trinket1Slot")) then UseInventoryItem(14); else UseContainerItem(0,1); end; |
| 23:03.53 | Jagobah | How could I put a duration logic check in there? |
| 23:06.44 | ckknight | what does GetInventoryItemCooldown return? |
| 23:08.56 | ckknight | okay |
| 23:08.58 | ckknight | this is simple |
| 23:09.18 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:10.33 | pagefault | hey kergoth you around?> |
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| 23:15.12 | pfault | ugh |
| 23:20.36 | Jagobah | ok I'll try that out |
| 23:22.20 | Jagobah | ahh thanks it works! I forgot you needed two equals signs :P |
| 23:24.50 | hyperChipmunk | in ab |
| 23:25.04 | hyperChipmunk | honorfu batfu off |
| 23:25.13 | hyperChipmunk | glorylib up and kickin |
| 23:25.34 | kergoth | dangit, aftt_extreme is nice, but it doesnt handle positioning of non-unit tooltips, seemingly. and tipster doesnt work properly anymore |
| 23:25.45 | kergoth | Mikma: what are you using for tooltip stuff? |
| 23:26.18 | ckknight | alright |
| 23:26.38 | ckknight | I just found a bug in the weekend calculator code |
| 23:26.41 | ckknight | fixed it on my end |
| 23:26.42 | kergoth | pagefault: am now, whats up |
| 23:26.56 | pagefault | don't mean to be annoying but svk back? |
| 23:27.29 | hyperChipmunk | crash when I turned BatFu on |
| 23:27.50 | hyperChipmunk | that's messed up |
| 23:27.58 | kergoth | pagefault, yep, http://kergoth.com/svn/wow/trunk/KergothWOWBits |
| 23:30.12 | kergoth | pagefault, switching from tipbuddy to aftt_extreme greatly reduced our ram usage. we're now at like 27 on login. aftt isnt managing non-unit tooltips though, they're showing up in the corner rather than at the mouse, which annoys me |
| 23:30.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:30.58 | hyperChipmunk | ! |
| 23:31.10 | hyperChipmunk | I think everything but the crash works now =D |
| 23:32.17 | hyperChipmunk | and the sort |
| 23:33.13 | Mikma | kergoth: aftt extreme 0.4b with my own 3D mod, why? |
| 23:34.22 | kergoth | just wondering. /me wants his non-unit tooltips to follow the mouse, dangit |
| 23:35.05 | Mikma | that's interesting, normally people wan't those tooltips to dock and units to follow |
| 23:36.12 | Tain | I don't want any to follow, and all to dock. |
| 23:36.21 | Mikma | same here |
| 23:36.31 | Mikma | everything's docked to bottomright |
| 23:36.37 | Mikma | where the original tooltip is |
| 23:36.41 | Tain | Oh I dock mine top center though. |
| 23:36.42 | Mikma | the 0.4b has that feature |
| 23:36.44 | Tain | I like them all right there. |
| 23:36.59 | kergoth | what tooltip addon are you using, tain? |
| 23:37.27 | pagefault | ok |
| 23:37.28 | pagefault | thanks |
| 23:37.34 | kergoth | np |
| 23:37.47 | Tain | Was using Tip Buddy and Tipster. |
| 23:38.04 | kergoth | i've used tipbuddy for ages, but its a bit of a hog |
| 23:38.33 | kergoth | and tipster doesnt seem to be able to relocate the tooltips when mousing over itemrack icons for some reason |
| 23:38.34 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:38.40 | pagefault | your connection seems much faster now |
| 23:39.00 | kergoth | cause its not mine :) |
| 23:39.08 | kergoth | no longer hyperion on a cable modem line |
| 23:39.08 | pagefault | haha |
| 23:39.16 | kergoth | its a remote VM, ala linode |
| 23:39.17 | pagefault | it's much faster anyway :) |
| 23:39.32 | pagefault | I was wondering when you got a T3 at home |
| 23:39.36 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:40.25 | kergoth | 16 of the addons in the set are disabled by default, either due to being special purpose or due to being class specific. so be sure to check the addons list before playing |
| 23:40.59 | kergoth | pagefault, you tried http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1319.0.html ? |
| 23:41.13 | Mikma | Tain: i'm making my own picture for the minimap now :) removing useless "fog" from the picture too |
| 23:42.19 | kergoth | hmm, itemrack uses gametooltip, wonder why tipster doesnt override its positioning. /me looks at the tipster code |
| 23:42.48 | pagefault | not yet |
| 23:42.55 | pagefault | I use keyboard shortcuts for everything |
| 23:43.18 | pagefault | I guess the timers could be useful |
| 23:43.20 | pagefault | i'll check it out |
| 23:44.07 | groll | tain u here? |
| 23:44.25 | hyperChipmunk | with your code commented out, AV seems to work completely now |
| 23:45.10 | groll | or anyone else know stuff about visorgui |
| 23:47.31 | Tain | in and about sometimes |
| 23:49.08 | hyperChipmunk | wsg still crashes |
| 23:49.09 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 23:52.25 | Mikma | yay the picture is done |
| 23:52.29 | Mikma | now let's see does it work |
| 23:53.39 | groll | oh sorry tain missed ya there :P but about tha visorgui, could i for example grab the map frame and remodel it to a square or such? |
| 23:54.39 | Tain | Nope groll, you can't do anything like that. You can only resize it, you can't change the shape of it. |
| 23:55.02 | Tain | To do that you have to apply a custom-made texture graphic file which is what Mikma is actually working on right now. :) |
| 23:56.17 | pagefault | kergoth, for some reason I still see the original frames |
| 23:56.26 | pagefault | any way to turn those off or should I just use visor to hide them |
| 23:59.47 | kergoth | minigroup2 isnt hiding them automatically? i'd just use visor to hide em myself |