| 00:00.58 | Tem | cladhaire: can you clarify the repo changes for kael? he missed the memo |
| 00:01.16 | Tekkub | Tip: most mages will give you food if you open a trade window with them, then whisper them with simply the word "food" |
| 00:01.43 | Wobin_ | Or WATA |
| 00:01.57 | cladhaire | Tem: Who what where when why? |
| 00:02.16 | Tem | forums |
| 00:02.25 | Neronix | Tip: If you do not want a nasty warlock to summon you into the sea, then refrain from using punctuation or manners from your summon request |
| 00:02.40 | Tem | Tekkub: Tip: Most mages will put you on their ignore list for doing that. |
| 00:02.56 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.07 | Tekkub | Tip: If someone tells you "Ni hao," put them on your Ignore list. |
| 00:03.08 | Neronix | I tried to do the summon under the sea thing once |
| 00:03.10 | Neronix | and failed :( |
| 00:04.12 | Tekkub | Tip: If you run from a hunter he WILL shoot you in the back |
| 00:04.28 | hyperChipmunk | snicker |
| 00:04.30 | hyperChipmunk | I like that one |
| 00:04.37 | hyperChipmunk | especially goes for mages |
| 00:05.01 | hyperChipmunk | Tip: if you blink away from a hunter, it will make him very happy |
| 00:05.24 | cladhaire | Tem: Looks like he missed the convo about checking out. |
| 00:05.30 | cladhaire | just posted. |
| 00:07.03 | cladhaire | Anyone have any issues with what looks like http://svn.wowace.com/test |
| 00:07.19 | cladhaire | besides the 19,000 commit messages from me moving shit around? |
| 00:08.13 | Wobin_ | cladhaire: I still think we should have subcategorie |
| 00:08.14 | Wobin_ | s |
| 00:08.21 | cladhaire | .. |
| 00:08.25 | cladhaire | what do you mean subcategories> |
| 00:08.32 | Wobin_ | Like the ones defined in ace |
| 00:08.44 | Wobin_ | UI enhancement... combat... inventory... |
| 00:08.46 | cladhaire | oh definitely not =( |
| 00:08.49 | hyperChipmunk | those suck |
| 00:08.53 | cladhaire | there's no need for organization like that in an svn |
| 00:09.01 | hyperChipmunk | and this isn't a database for users |
| 00:09.07 | Wobin_ | Okay =P |
| 00:09.09 | cladhaire | =) |
| 00:09.11 | cladhaire | but good suggestion |
| 00:09.11 | Wobin_ | We need it in the forum then =P |
| 00:09.20 | Wobin_ | We need it -somewhere- =P |
| 00:09.29 | hyperChipmunk | Wobin_: that was a lousy suggestion, and you are not fit to live |
| 00:09.36 | hyperChipmunk | plz jump off a cliff |
| 00:09.39 | Wobin_ | Thank you hyperChipmunk. |
| 00:09.53 | Kaelten|Afk | hey guys |
| 00:09.53 | Wobin_ | The next time I even consider taking your advice, I'll remember this day |
| 00:09.56 | Wobin_ | And not. |
| 00:10.07 | cladhaire | heyas Kael |
| 00:10.11 | Wobin_ | 'lo Kael |
| 00:10.20 | Tem | oh, good |
| 00:10.23 | Tem | just the man I needed to see |
| 00:10.30 | Kaelten | uhoh |
| 00:10.36 | Kaelten | um.... I need to go afk? |
| 00:10.36 | hyperChipmunk | dun dun DUNNN |
| 00:10.45 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:10.59 | hyperChipmunk | watch out! he's going to hack you! |
| 00:11.05 | Tem | well.. first, you need to check out the latest in dumb-shit stuff the GMs are saying |
| 00:11.10 | Kaelten | ? |
| 00:11.11 | Kaelten | link? |
| 00:11.32 | cladhaire | Hope your birthday went well =) |
| 00:11.33 | Tekkub | oh yea... before I forget.... |
| 00:11.41 | Tem | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=361000&p=1&tmp=1#post361000 |
| 00:11.47 | Kaelten | it did was just super busy |
| 00:12.05 | Tekkub | HAPPY GREAT ZOMBIE JESUS DAY EVERYONE! PROTECT YOUR BRAAAAIIIINNNNSSSSSSSSSS! |
| 00:12.16 | Codayus | Don't listen to Tem. |
| 00:12.24 | Codayus | He's a haxx0r |
| 00:12.28 | Codayus | And that's *never* good. |
| 00:12.33 | hyperChipmunk | actually, we celebrate Easter next week, Tek |
| 00:13.00 | Tekkub | we do? meh fuck it it's not my religion why would I know the right date |
| 00:13.10 | Tem | pwnt |
| 00:13.14 | Codayus | Wait, isn't today Easter? |
| 00:13.17 | cladhaire | Kaelten: Did you see my response |
| 00:13.17 | Codayus | Or something? |
| 00:13.27 | cladhaire | Today is standard easter.. some orthodox religions have it later |
| 00:13.30 | Codayus | I went to the store to get some caffiene and stuff, and they were closed... |
| 00:13.32 | Codayus | Ohhh. |
| 00:13.35 | Codayus | Fair enough. |
| 00:13.46 | Tekkub | so there's TWO zombie Jesus days eh? nice |
| 00:13.57 | Tekkub | more braaaaiiinnnssss for everyone! |
| 00:14.00 | Codayus | I was really upset...went all the way their, no caffiene... |
| 00:14.06 | Neronix | Why zombie jesus? |
| 00:14.09 | Wobin_ | hah |
| 00:14.14 | Tekkub | *slap* |
| 00:14.18 | Neronix | why not Bizzaro Jesus? |
| 00:14.22 | Wobin_ | Nobody celebrates that sort of thing over here |
| 00:14.24 | Tekkub | you do know what Easter is celebrating right? |
| 00:14.24 | Codayus | *cry* |
| 00:14.29 | Codayus | Rabbit eggs? |
| 00:14.31 | Neronix | or Ultra Jesus? |
| 00:14.46 | Tekkub | zombie jesus seems the most fitting to me |
| 00:14.52 | Codayus | I mean, if you look around, it sure seems to have more to do with rabbit eggs than zombie jesus. |
| 00:14.52 | Wobin_ | Vampire Jesus? |
| 00:15.05 | Codayus | And rabbits don't even lay eggs...wtf is up with that? |
| 00:15.06 | Wobin_ | I mean look at the whole blood drinking thing |
| 00:15.14 | Tekkub | it's Bizarro Jesus the guy jewish people worship? *hides* |
| 00:15.18 | Codayus | Wobin raises an excellent point! |
| 00:15.21 | Kaelten | cladhaire, I did |
| 00:15.24 | Tekkub | *isn't |
| 00:15.25 | Wobin_ | SOYLENT GREEN IS MADE FROM JESUS |
| 00:15.30 | Codayus | oO |
| 00:15.32 | Neronix | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Jesus |
| 00:15.52 | Codayus | This conversation is creeping me out. And that's *never* good. |
| 00:16.11 | Tekkub | am I a bad person? I always ask the mage to "Jesus me up some water, and some bread for my bear" |
| 00:16.14 | Wobin_ | You're running that phrase into the ground =P |
| 00:16.23 | Codayus | I know. |
| 00:16.28 | Codayus | But it amuses me. |
| 00:16.29 | hyperChipmunk | the Jee Man |
| 00:16.30 | Codayus | :-) |
| 00:16.38 | Kaelten | cladhaire, things I see as being an issue, the tags directory is going to get flooded, as is the branches directory |
| 00:16.53 | Tekkub | flooded by what? |
| 00:16.58 | Kaelten | as an author I'd never be able to know when a branch might have sometihng in it for my mods |
| 00:17.04 | Kaelten | tekkub stuff |
| 00:17.05 | Wobin_ | Would it be better to have addon specific tags/branches? |
| 00:17.16 | Tekkub | branch should never be useful :P |
| 00:17.32 | Tekkub | if I tweaked KCI I'd make a branch and tell YOU, the author about it |
| 00:17.39 | cladhaire | Kaelten: Tags won't be any more flooded than trunk, and branches is gonne be put out by user |
| 00:17.41 | Tekkub | if you wanted to mege it it's your choice |
| 00:17.47 | cladhaire | check http://svn.wowace.com/test |
| 00:17.49 | Tekkub | but I don't spect users to go there |
| 00:17.54 | cladhaire | Tekkub: *nod* |
| 00:17.56 | cladhaire | exactly |
| 00:18.32 | Tekkub | branch is for you or someone else to side-dev... the main author should be the one merging back to trunk |
| 00:18.50 | cladhaire | Tekkub: No one should ever MERGE or tag except the author. |
| 00:18.50 | cladhaire | Tekkub: I agree 100% =) |
| 00:19.02 | Tekkub | basically consider anything there highly alpha... trunk is stable beta, tags are release or RC |
| 00:19.32 | cladhaire | but again nothing is decided yet.. but we had a LONG conversatino yesterday weighing the pros and cons. |
| 00:19.44 | Tekkub | users wanting betas play in trunk... users wanting release use the UI sites |
| 00:19.56 | Kaelten | whats the cons to using the method I proposed? |
| 00:20.23 | cladhaire | Kaelten: If you checkout the folder.. its default named "tags" "trunk", etc. |
| 00:20.37 | cladhaire | instead of "Ace", "PerfectRaid" |
| 00:21.06 | cladhaire | it requires the author to set up their own structure |
| 00:21.24 | cladhaire | and users have to dig much deeper to get where they need to (so do we) |
| 00:21.33 | Tem | so then the path to any addon's root directory would be /root/Project/trunk/Project/ |
| 00:21.41 | Tem | which sucks |
| 00:21.41 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 00:21.44 | cladhaire | that's why we put it root level |
| 00:21.57 | Kaelten | hmm I was just going to use root/project/turnk |
| 00:21.59 | cladhaire | and then, peopel like tain who mirror the WHOLE trunk, can still do that without having to messa round. |
| 00:22.06 | Kaelten | s/turnk/trunk |
| 00:22.13 | cladhaire | Kaelten: Yeah, if you do that.. checkouts go to "TRUNK" instead of "PROJECT" |
| 00:22.15 | cladhaire | which isn't good. |
| 00:22.38 | hyperChipmunk | "why doesn't my Trunk AddOn work?" |
| 00:22.49 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:22.59 | Kaelten | heh |
| 00:24.11 | id` | doop dee doop |
| 00:24.13 | id` | doing deadmines |
| 00:24.19 | id` | with a lv 60 warlock |
| 00:24.20 | id` | im lv 13 |
| 00:24.25 | cladhaire | haha |
| 00:24.25 | cladhaire | nice. |
| 00:24.26 | id` | 4 blues so far |
| 00:24.28 | id` | :p |
| 00:24.34 | cladhaire | i ran it with my priest the other day |
| 00:24.36 | cladhaire | it rocked =) |
| 00:24.39 | id` | hoping for the wand or the shirt next :P |
| 00:24.41 | cladhaire | holy nova > deadmines. |
| 00:24.46 | id` | hehe |
| 00:26.13 | cladhaire | We just need to decide for good how we want the svn to be |
| 00:26.16 | cladhaire | so I can get it set up |
| 00:26.16 | cladhaire | =) |
| 00:26.58 | cladhaire | and since you're the man.. make it happen =) |
| 00:28.42 | *** mode/#wowace [-k hyperChipmunk] by Tem |
| 00:29.10 | Neronix | I agree with the method clad proposes |
| 00:29.38 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 00:29.59 | *** join/#wowace Tain (n=tain@ip68-109-28-84.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 00:30.13 | Kaelten | ok lets go with your way I've browsed the test directory and it looks good. |
| 00:30.20 | cladhaire | ok |
| 00:30.25 | cladhaire | i gotta see if i can combine revisions |
| 00:30.28 | Kaelten | k |
| 00:30.30 | cladhaire | any idea how/if i can do that? |
| 00:30.35 | Kaelten | not sure |
| 00:30.37 | cladhaire | so i can combine the last 35 I had to make moving things around. |
| 00:30.37 | Tem | ~poke kergoth |
| 00:30.39 | purl | ACTION grabs a syringe |
| 00:30.51 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 00:30.53 | hyperChipmunk | just let Tem hack them together |
| 00:30.58 | Kaelten | once they're made they're made |
| 00:31.09 | Kaelten | you'd have to dl the whole directory make all the moves and then do one big commit |
| 00:31.15 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 00:31.18 | cladhaire | which I can do |
| 00:32.24 | cladhaire | i'll look at that.. then push it up to /root |
| 00:32.28 | cladhaire | and get the mainpage, etc. updated. |
| 00:33.19 | Neronix | wait, if someone makes a change to one addon, does that increment the revision number for everything? |
| 00:33.33 | cladhaire | yesw |
| 00:33.38 | cladhaire | them's the breaks. |
| 00:33.48 | cladhaire | so the youngest revision of any addon grows as people commit |
| 00:34.07 | Neronix | I see |
| 00:34.17 | Tain | That's not too big of a deal though since you always have a log of the revisions for each individual addon commit. |
| 00:34.23 | cladhaire | correct |
| 00:34.26 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 00:34.31 | cladhaire | once you get underneath, the logs show just what they need to |
| 00:34.59 | Tain | Or so I justify it to myself. :) |
| 00:36.07 | Wobin_ | cladhaire: Hehe I did that with the deadmines last week with my Priest =) |
| 00:36.16 | Wobin_ | cladhaire: Made me feel like such a mage =P |
| 00:36.30 | cladhaire | except we can heal ourselves at the same time =) |
| 00:36.38 | Wobin_ | 'zactly |
| 00:48.31 | id` | wow dm run |
| 00:49.21 | id` | smites hammer, the ring, the axe at sneed, the shield, cookies wand, 3 defias parts, maybe 20 other greens |
| 00:49.24 | id` | crazy! |
| 00:49.45 | id` | so keeping this char at lv 19 :p |
| 00:50.13 | Neronix | heh :P |
| 00:50.46 | id` | hoping for the wand next |
| 00:52.04 | id` | hey look a zircon frost band of resistance |
| 00:52.06 | id` | and the wand |
| 00:52.38 | Neronix | cladhaire: any idea when the SVN restructure will be done? Can't decide whether to go to bed now or wait :P |
| 00:53.27 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:53.30 | cladhaire | working on it now. |
| 00:53.36 | cladhaire | just finished mving the history over |
| 00:53.55 | id` | hey look |
| 00:53.59 | id` | thorbias gauntlets |
| 00:54.02 | id` | 6 blues |
| 00:55.49 | Neronix | cladhaire: ok :) |
| 00:58.20 | Wobin_ | gah. |
| 00:58.32 | Wobin_ | Loop Infinite, meet Infinite Loop |
| 01:02.01 | id` | my bag is full of greens |
| 01:02.03 | id` | and cloth |
| 01:02.05 | id` | ke ke ke |
| 01:03.33 | id` | oh and i made 2g while i was gone |
| 01:03.35 | id` | ... |
| 01:12.06 | hyperChipmunk | boss spent the entire weekend lashing me to finish GloryLib, and now that I have, I haven't heard a peep from him about it =( |
| 01:13.38 | Wobin_ | maybe he's asleep =P |
| 01:14.57 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 01:20.24 | cladhaire | Ok. |
| 01:20.27 | cladhaire | I need subversion help. |
| 01:20.58 | cladhaire | anyone around? |
| 01:21.04 | hyperChipmunk | I'm not around |
| 01:21.40 | Wobin_ | subversion help? |
| 01:21.42 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 01:22.05 | cladhaire | I need to move a directory from test/AceFry to test/trunk/AceFry |
| 01:22.11 | cladhaire | and want to do it in a local copy, then commit up. |
| 01:22.15 | cladhaire | but it doesn't look like I can do that |
| 01:22.22 | cladhaire | (I'm trying to prevent having 35 commits and I move things around) |
| 01:22.47 | Kaelten | clad: delete it in one place and add it in the other |
| 01:22.50 | Kaelten | thats one way to do it |
| 01:22.58 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 01:23.01 | cladhaire | that's all i really see. |
| 01:23.02 | Wobin_ | can't 'migrate'? |
| 01:23.15 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 01:23.16 | Kaelten | wait |
| 01:23.44 | Kaelten | what about relocate? |
| 01:23.58 | Wobin_ | that's the word |
| 01:23.59 | cladhaire | not used for that |
| 01:24.45 | Kaelten | whats it used for then? |
| 01:24.58 | cladhaire | URL changes.. ip addresses, etc. |
| 01:24.59 | cladhaire | i dunno |
| 01:25.04 | Wobin_ | if the url of the repo changes... |
| 01:25.08 | cladhaire | subversion gives lots of errors when you try to use it =) |
| 01:25.17 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 01:25.18 | cladhaire | many warnings =) |
| 01:25.25 | Kaelten | I guess delete and readd then |
| 01:32.10 | *** join/#wowace ag` (n=Andreas@0x50c4844b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk) |
| 01:36.34 | *** join/#wowace Jarenthal (n=Roo@cpe-066-057-087-213.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 01:37.42 | ag` | ckknight, I found a bug with FuBar, not sure if it fixed: If there is an error in any Ace mod, FuBar modules will revert to default locations on the bar |
| 01:40.06 | hyperChipmunk | yea that one's a pain in the neck |
| 01:40.44 | ag` | Well I guess it's not something that 99% of any users will see |
| 01:41.17 | ag` | It's just that I use my gaming configuration for testing mods too, so it will own my Fubar setup everytime I get an error in some code I make |
| 01:44.38 | cladhaire | Ok |
| 01:44.42 | cladhaire | CAn someone look at the repo |
| 01:44.44 | cladhaire | before i move it to root? |
| 01:44.49 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com/test |
| 01:46.55 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com/log.php?repname=Test&path=%2F&rev=0&sc=0&isdir=1 |
| 01:46.56 | cladhaire | that's the log for it. |
| 01:48.16 | cladhaire | and HC doens't put commit messages.. that will change =) |
| 01:50.28 | Neronix | cladhaire: everything looks in order |
| 01:50.46 | Neronix | but is the structure for branches supposed to be /brances/AuthorName/Addon? |
| 01:51.18 | Kaelten | or should it be branches/addon/author? |
| 01:52.39 | cladhaire | branches/AuthorName/Addon in my opinion. |
| 01:53.34 | cladhaire | Since (as we stated) only the AUTHOR of an addon should be merging.. and branches tend to be personal changes to potentially be commited back |
| 01:53.59 | cladhaire | I'd rather see all my branches together, but we can discuss and change it =) |
| 01:54.10 | ckknight | ag`, I thought I fixed that |
| 01:54.15 | Neronix | I see |
| 01:54.47 | ckknight | ag`, what version? |
| 01:54.52 | cladhaire | Kaelten: How do you feel? |
| 01:55.22 | Kaelten | well its a split |
| 01:55.47 | ag` | ckknight, I am not sure, as I updated SVN just this moment... But was a pretty recent version, I think from yesterday or the day before |
| 01:56.12 | Kaelten | having it be addon/author would let the original author see everything on a given addon |
| 01:56.17 | cladhaire | THe way I see it.. there shouldn't be many branches, and if there are-- its probably best to put one authors all together (I have 3-4 branches open at any given point in time).. cause i never make small changes-- so they tend to be branches |
| 01:56.53 | cladhaire | Kaelten: But if someone's branching, they should let the author know so they can look at it |
| 01:57.15 | Kaelten | *should |
| 01:57.25 | cladhaire | Its either we make it easier for the person who is branching, to keep organized-- or the original author for merging back |
| 01:57.37 | cladhaire | well if they don't.. it'll never get put back in. |
| 01:57.41 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:57.45 | cladhaire | i see you rpoint both ways. |
| 01:58.56 | Kaelten | anyone else have a word to say on that? |
| 02:00.06 | cladhaire | I can change the current set in a single commit.. just lemme know bossman =) |
| 02:00.07 | id` | nn :P |
| 02:01.08 | cladhaire | nn? thats all you have to say? |
| 02:01.09 | cladhaire | lol |
| 02:01.26 | id` | well im not using svn.. yet.. |
| 02:01.32 | id` | no experience |
| 02:01.32 | cladhaire | but you can |
| 02:01.33 | cladhaire | but you will =) |
| 02:01.35 | id` | tbh, i dunno! :P |
| 02:01.38 | cladhaire | how do you think it should be organized? |
| 02:01.38 | id` | yeh i will |
| 02:01.39 | cladhaire | =) |
| 02:01.51 | id` | I like it all in one uh.. folder.. |
| 02:01.55 | Neronix | I dunno what to say |
| 02:02.01 | id` | easier to browse |
| 02:02.13 | id` | cause im looking for addons not for persons :> |
| 02:03.15 | Neronix | I'm too tired to think straight about this, sorry :P |
| 02:03.49 | cladhaire | hahaha |
| 02:04.16 | Kaelten | Tem: |
| 02:04.19 | Kaelten | What do you think? |
| 02:04.30 | cladhaire | Yeah, Tem has been ignoring us. |
| 02:04.38 | Neronix | whatever you're doing for /branches, make it best for developers |
| 02:04.42 | Tem | sorry |
| 02:04.46 | Tem | doing a Razor pull |
| 02:04.48 | cladhaire | Neronix: Which developers? =) |
| 02:04.56 | Neronix | because users should not and will not have an interest in branches |
| 02:05.01 | Neronix | developers in general |
| 02:05.24 | cladhaire | Well its either the branching developer, or the original addon developer =) |
| 02:05.57 | Neronix | hmm... |
| 02:06.00 | Neronix | both? :S |
| 02:06.24 | cladhaire | lol |
| 02:07.07 | Neronix | branching dev :P |
| 02:07.18 | cladhaire | haha |
| 02:08.11 | id` | so |
| 02:08.12 | id` | nn |
| 02:08.13 | id` | :p |
| 02:09.55 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:10.15 | Kaelten | well my instinct is to make it easier for the original author |
| 02:10.48 | Wobin_ | I'd agree |
| 02:11.07 | Wobin_ | Since any author not the original who is 'modifying' will know where the modifications are |
| 02:11.27 | Wobin_ | while the original author may not know that someone branched their code |
| 02:11.52 | Wobin_ | Or they'd know that "Oh someone said that someone was modifying my code" |
| 02:12.02 | Wobin_ | Make it easier for the original coders to find |
| 02:12.14 | Kaelten | I'm tending too agree |
| 02:12.20 | Kaelten | s/too/to/ |
| 02:12.29 | cladhaire | ok |
| 02:12.40 | cladhaire | i like it the other way |
| 02:12.43 | cladhaire | but i'm not unreasonable =) |
| 02:12.52 | cladhaire | if tekkub were here i bet he'd agree |
| 02:13.43 | Wobin_ | so am I arguing for "branches/addon/author"? =P |
| 02:13.50 | cladhaire | aye |
| 02:13.52 | Kaelten | k so its branches/<addon>/author |
| 02:13.56 | Kaelten | kk, sounds good |
| 02:14.06 | Neronix | I'll change my mind and go with Wobin_ and Kaelten :P |
| 02:14.09 | Tem | cladhaire: what was the question? |
| 02:14.24 | Tem | (for anyone who cares, that was the cleanest Razor pull I've ever been on |
| 02:14.27 | Tem | ) |
| 02:14.27 | Wobin_ | Cause that does make a bit more sense... all the possible 'different' code for the one addon in relatively the same place |
| 02:14.45 | cladhaire | TEm": branches/addon/author or branches/author/addon |
| 02:15.52 | Tem | branches/addon/author |
| 02:16.05 | Tem | groups relevant branches together |
| 02:16.08 | Wobin_ | or rather "all the code that needs to be merged into one, all in the same place" |
| 02:16.55 | cladhaire | like so: http://svn.wowace.com/test/branches |
| 02:16.55 | cladhaire | ? |
| 02:17.44 | Neronix | still shows author/addon there |
| 02:17.46 | Wobin_ | No the other way... |
| 02:17.48 | Wobin_ | ? |
| 02:17.58 | Wobin_ | addon/author |
| 02:18.10 | Wobin_ | ah there we go |
| 02:18.21 | Wobin_ | yeah like that |
| 02:18.37 | cladhaire | i was mid-commit |
| 02:18.50 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 02:18.53 | cladhaire | I just dont like that you can't tell what addon it is from the directory you're in.. you need your parent to know what addon you're in |
| 02:19.00 | cladhaire | but that just personal prferences. |
| 02:19.26 | cladhaire | So does that look good? |
| 02:20.56 | Wobin_ | If you're browsing through the fancyhtml svn look, you can see your history tree |
| 02:20.59 | Wobin_ | er folder tree |
| 02:26.40 | Neronix`sleep | night |
| 02:28.26 | Tem | wow... |
| 02:28.27 | Tem | just... |
| 02:28.29 | Tem | just wow |
| 02:28.33 | Tem | "When I loaded the mod it said I was missing a dependancy in the UI add on screen (before logging in). I ran it anyways thinking it should still work, but it dropped my framerates down to 1 every couple seconds. I logged out of the game and restarted WoW without this enabled and the game ran fine. I'm not running any other zoning mods, so it's something to do with the missing dependancy?" |
| 02:28.47 | cladhaire | hahaha |
| 02:28.54 | hyperChipmunk | uh, isn't the dependency Ace? |
| 02:28.56 | Cairenn | oh.my.god. |
| 02:29.22 | cladhaire | although ace is WAY overkill for catalyst |
| 02:29.23 | cladhaire | hahahah |
| 02:29.28 | Tem | agreed |
| 02:29.34 | Tem | I want to make Ace optional |
| 02:29.36 | Tem | but I'm lazy |
| 02:30.03 | cladhaire | want me to change it? |
| 02:30.03 | Tem | now that I'm not even using AceHooks, the only part of ace I'm using is standby and cmd:msg |
| 02:30.05 | cladhaire | lol |
| 02:30.18 | Tem | go for it if you want |
| 02:30.26 | cladhaire | i woudln't code standby |
| 02:30.26 | Tem | use Ace if it's present |
| 02:30.29 | cladhaire | but i can if you dont want that |
| 02:30.29 | Tem | no |
| 02:30.43 | Tem | standby is an ace feature |
| 02:30.48 | cladhaire | i know |
| 02:30.51 | Tem | if they don't have ace, then they can't use standby |
| 02:32.14 | cladhaire | i'll see if i get around to it |
| 02:32.16 | cladhaire | i need to move the svn |
| 02:32.19 | cladhaire | so people can commit again |
| 02:32.28 | cladhaire | Kaelten: Still here? |
| 02:34.53 | Tem | would someone mind responding to that retarded question? I can't think of a nice way to say it. |
| 02:38.07 | hyperChipmunk | a nice way to say it would be "I think I saw your brain jumping off the bridge over there; why don't you go retrieve it?" |
| 02:38.41 | Tem | lol |
| 02:38.46 | Kaelten | cladhaire, whats up? |
| 02:39.50 | hyperChipmunk | can I commit yet? |
| 02:39.57 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: No.. and we have to talk =) |
| 02:40.03 | cladhaire | YOu don't put messages in.. this is a bad thing =) |
| 02:40.10 | hyperChipmunk | but I wawa commit |
| 02:40.12 | cladhaire | you make the logs empty |
| 02:40.14 | hyperChipmunk | don't put messages in? |
| 02:40.16 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 02:40.19 | hyperChipmunk | odd |
| 02:40.29 | cladhaire | Kaelten: Permissions on branches.. open to everyone authenticated, correct? |
| 02:40.31 | hyperChipmunk | I write messages for all of them |
| 02:40.39 | hyperChipmunk | except at the beginning, where I was getting the hang of SVN |
| 02:40.48 | hyperChipmunk | and kept committing nothing =) |
| 02:41.01 | cladhaire | Kaelten: Same with permissions on trunk, except for directories we want to make them harder, like Ace? |
| 02:41.39 | hyperChipmunk | but I have a commit and I've already written a message! lemme in! |
| 02:42.37 | hyperChipmunk | getting CIA back in here would encourage message-writing btw |
| 02:42.38 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: No. |
| 02:42.43 | cladhaire | CIA is coming back |
| 02:42.44 | hyperChipmunk | cladhaire: YES! |
| 02:43.19 | hyperChipmunk | are my messages really not going in, though? |
| 02:43.30 | hyperChipmunk | I'll have to figure out why |
| 02:44.24 | Kaelten | sorry was afk for a sec |
| 02:44.25 | Kaelten | back |
| 02:44.35 | Kaelten | cladhaire, sounds good |
| 02:44.50 | Kaelten | because anyone can make a branch |
| 02:45.10 | Kaelten | its up to to the original author to clean them up though |
| 02:46.11 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:46.15 | hyperChipmunk | can i commit now? |
| 02:46.20 | cladhaire | NO |
| 02:46.24 | cladhaire | you won't be able to commit for a few |
| 02:46.33 | cladhaire | and what you have won't commit the way you want it to |
| 02:46.37 | cladhaire | so you'll have to move stuff around |
| 02:46.43 | hyperChipmunk | I know I know |
| 02:46.47 | hyperChipmunk | just giving you a hard time |
| 02:48.22 | *** join/#wowace banditron (n=bandito@cpe-67-9-143-58.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 02:48.39 | hyperChipmunk | heh heh, another person tried to queue my battleground |
| 02:53.06 | cladhaire | commiting to the svn root at the moment. |
| 02:53.23 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: You'll need to checkout from the new svn.. and then copy the updated files into that new local copy |
| 02:53.27 | cladhaire | but wait still =) |
| 02:54.37 | hyperChipmunk | so I can commit now? |
| 03:13.42 | Tem | so... can I commit yet? |
| 03:13.59 | cladhaire | omg. |
| 03:14.00 | hyperChipmunk | I was thinking the exact same thing! |
| 03:14.03 | cladhaire | hahah |
| 03:14.05 | cladhaire | thanks for reminding me. |
| 03:14.13 | hyperChipmunk | you punk! |
| 03:14.37 | cladhaire | ok |
| 03:14.38 | cladhaire | gimme a sec |
| 03:15.07 | cladhaire | here are the rules |
| 03:15.12 | cladhaire | Branches go under branches/addon/author |
| 03:15.21 | cladhaire | tags go under tags/addon/version |
| 03:15.38 | cladhaire | Every commit needs a message, and the message needs to be prefixed with the addon you are commiting: |
| 03:15.41 | cladhaire | WatchDog: Blah Blah |
| 03:15.45 | cladhaire | or WatchDog- Blah, Blah |
| 03:15.47 | cladhaire | something like that. |
| 03:15.54 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com/root |
| 03:15.57 | hyperChipmunk | what if we have an embedded lib |
| 03:16.01 | cladhaire | ... |
| 03:16.04 | cladhaire | what does that matter? |
| 03:16.06 | hyperChipmunk | that we're updating too |
| 03:16.19 | cladhaire | I dont have any idea what you mean-- and how anything would change |
| 03:16.37 | hyperChipmunk | well i'm gonna put two addon names in most of my commits |
| 03:16.38 | cladhaire | You will need to re-check out what you have now, from the new repo |
| 03:16.43 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: Why? |
| 03:16.52 | cladhaire | And then copy the new files over. |
| 03:16.57 | hyperChipmunk | GloryLib: Added AB time-to-victory estimate |
| 03:17.08 | hyperChipmunk | BatFu: Added tooltip display for AB time-to-victory estimate |
| 03:17.53 | hyperChipmunk | they go up together |
| 03:18.51 | cladhaire | So, put them together |
| 03:19.00 | cladhaire | Just like you just did |
| 03:19.01 | hyperChipmunk | well that's what I mean =) |
| 03:19.10 | hyperChipmunk | just wanted to make sure that was okay |
| 03:19.19 | hyperChipmunk | I don't want to break the rules on my first commit |
| 03:19.47 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: no, bad |
| 03:19.49 | hyperChipmunk | and you said you were a stickler for that sort of thing |
| 03:19.55 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: Upload them as 2 seperate addons |
| 03:20.01 | Tem | then you do 2 commits |
| 03:20.09 | hyperChipmunk | it's not my addon to do though |
| 03:20.13 | cladhaire | yeah i'd prefer that |
| 03:20.13 | hyperChipmunk | i'm just coding it =P |
| 03:20.26 | cladhaire | *boggle* |
| 03:20.30 | cladhaire | What are you talking about? |
| 03:20.40 | cladhaire | give us specifics =) |
| 03:20.48 | hyperChipmunk | glorylib is boss's mod |
| 03:20.55 | hyperChipmunk | and he doesn't use acesvn |
| 03:21.22 | hyperChipmunk | but I'm doing the battlegrounds support for it, right now, so I'm uploading it with BattlegroundFu =P |
| 03:21.22 | cladhaire | he will be |
| 03:21.48 | cladhaire | If you are maintaining an embedded library.. make it a seperate addon/directory. |
| 03:22.02 | hyperChipmunk | he might hurt me =( |
| 03:22.07 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 03:22.10 | cladhaire | i dont know what to tell you |
| 03:22.11 | hyperChipmunk | stop that!@ |
| 03:22.15 | cladhaire | i shrug |
| 03:22.16 | cladhaire | in real life |
| 03:22.18 | cladhaire | deal with it =) |
| 03:22.21 | hyperChipmunk | no! |
| 03:22.32 | hyperChipmunk | k, I'll upload 'em both |
| 03:22.42 | hyperChipmunk | do I still upload the lib with my addon? |
| 03:22.56 | hyperChipmunk | for easy download? |
| 03:23.35 | hyperChipmunk | if I don't, tekkub will whine =) |
| 03:23.55 | hyperChipmunk | well, he would if he used my addon |
| 03:26.32 | *** join/#wowace Slayman (i=Slayman@c135207.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 03:27.00 | hyperChipmunk | sorry if I'm being annoying, but those procedures ought to be standardized |
| 03:28.22 | cladhaire | glorylib changes should be tracked in glorylib |
| 03:28.23 | cladhaire | not your addon |
| 03:28.30 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 03:28.32 | cladhaire | your addon, you say you "updated GloryLib to rev xxx" |
| 03:28.39 | cladhaire | you and boss can work out the rest |
| 03:28.43 | cladhaire | and it'll be better once i get him set up |
| 03:28.45 | hyperChipmunk | kay |
| 03:28.46 | cladhaire | and we'll all rolling on the new svn |
| 03:29.39 | cladhaire | do me a favor |
| 03:29.39 | hyperChipmunk | and GloryLib is manually included in any addons that would normally have it included |
| 03:29.46 | cladhaire | No, |
| 03:29.53 | cladhaire | i include any embeds in my addon |
| 03:30.01 | cladhaire | but i dont make and track chanegs in the addons repo. |
| 03:30.06 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 03:30.07 | cladhaire | i just update the file, and say i updated to versino XXX |
| 03:30.10 | hyperChipmunk | I mean the file itself |
| 03:30.15 | cladhaire | I include it. |
| 03:30.21 | cladhaire | your tags should be downloadable, and runnable. |
| 03:30.27 | cladhaire | do a test create directory in http://svn.wowace.com/test |
| 03:30.30 | cladhaire | NOT the root one. |
| 03:31.07 | cladhaire | nvm can't even view atm =( |
| 03:31.08 | cladhaire | damn |
| 03:42.16 | clad|afk | Kael |
| 03:42.19 | clad|afk | Can you help me test something? |
| 03:43.01 | clad|afk | or anyone who has a second to play with svn? |
| 03:43.29 | Kaelten | whats up? |
| 03:43.38 | clad|afk | Log onto http://svn.wowace.com/test |
| 03:43.47 | clad|afk | you should have access to commit to tags/trunk/branches |
| 03:43.50 | clad|afk | create dirs, etc. |
| 03:43.52 | clad|afk | test that out. |
| 03:43.56 | clad|afk | create shit.. commit. |
| 03:44.04 | clad|afk | then try to commit to any of the Ace dirs (tags/trunk/branches) |
| 03:44.12 | clad|afk | you shouldn't be abel to |
| 03:44.17 | clad|afk | then let me know-- when you've verified that |
| 03:44.28 | clad|afk | so i can add you to the acedevs group |
| 03:47.02 | cladhaire | and then i'm going to bed |
| 03:47.06 | cladhaire | and i'll update the forums, etc tomorrow |
| 03:47.25 | cladhaire | but i need to make sure this works =) |
| 03:49.51 | Kaelten | ok I'm able to commit to non ace testing ace now. |
| 03:50.38 | cladhaire | ok |
| 03:51.33 | Kaelten | its not letting me commit to ace |
| 03:52.03 | cladhaire | good |
| 03:52.24 | cladhaire | now try |
| 03:53.13 | Kaelten | worked |
| 03:53.17 | cladhaire | good |
| 03:53.21 | cladhaire | then i think permissions are all set |
| 03:53.44 | cladhaire | we can start using the root repo. |
| 03:54.05 | cladhaire | which is http://svn.wowace.com/root |
| 03:54.15 | cladhaire | I will get the guidelines up on the forums tomorrow |
| 03:55.34 | Kaelten | the websvn is going to point to that directory as well? |
| 03:56.19 | Tem | ATTENTION |
| 03:56.36 | Tem | EVERYONE PLEASE SEE THIS THREAD: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1350.0.html |
| 03:56.47 | Tem | This list will be "finalized" **Tonight** |
| 03:58.15 | Wobin_ | set the topic |
| 03:58.19 | cladhaire | Kaelten: It already does tonight |
| 03:58.44 | Kaelten | kk |
| 03:58.45 | *** topic/#wowace by Tem -> wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | Everyone make your opinions known! Time is running out! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1350.0.html |
| 03:58.45 | cladhaire | ok. |
| 03:58.47 | Kaelten | I'll switch the linsk |
| 03:58.49 | cladhaire | bedtime for cladhaire |
| 03:58.56 | cladhaire | Kaelten: shoudln't need to |
| 03:58.57 | Tem | cladhaire: see the thread first |
| 03:59.00 | cladhaire | the link goes to http://svn.wowace.com |
| 03:59.03 | cladhaire | cladhare: I already did. |
| 03:59.17 | cladhaire | Kaelten: That address doesn't change.. just the actual SVN repo address |
| 03:59.50 | clad|sleep | Tem, hyperChipmunk: You can commit to the new repository- but don't screw it up =) |
| 03:59.58 | Tem | I promse I won't |
| 04:00.02 | Tem | promist* |
| 04:00.05 | Tem | promise* |
| 04:00.06 | Tem | * |
| 04:01.16 | Kaelten | clad ya I need to change the link on the directory |
| 04:01.19 | Kaelten | err main page |
| 04:01.56 | Kaelten | err wait I'm stupid nvm |
| 04:03.59 | clad|sleep | lol |
| 04:04.06 | clad|sleep | Backups of the svn will happeni NIGHTLY |
| 04:04.13 | clad|sleep | they take about 2 Megs each |
| 04:04.26 | Kaelten | damn |
| 04:04.33 | clad|sleep | and thats just this repo =) |
| 04:04.40 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:04.53 | clad|sleep | well 1.3 Megs if i bzip instead of gzip =) |
| 04:04.56 | clad|sleep | so that wins |
| 04:05.21 | Kaelten | can we do a postcommit hook to have it create zip files? |
| 04:05.36 | clad|sleep | we can do anythig, but what do you mean? |
| 04:06.10 | Kaelten | well, have a script zip up the commit and create a fresh build |
| 04:06.27 | clad|sleep | fresh backup you mean? |
| 04:06.33 | clad|sleep | or |
| 04:06.43 | Kaelten | put it directory available to download |
| 04:06.44 | clad|sleep | have a list of "recently updated directories?" |
| 04:06.49 | clad|sleep | we could.. yeah |
| 04:07.41 | Kaelten | if I setup a ftp account could it upload them to the mains erver or should we just host them on yours? |
| 04:07.49 | clad|sleep | we can just host them here. |
| 04:07.58 | Kaelten | k |
| 04:07.59 | clad|sleep | but what do we gain from that.. considering we have the tarballs available? |
| 04:08.25 | Kaelten | well main thing I want it for is teh main ace listings. |
| 04:08.35 | clad|sleep | such as? |
| 04:08.47 | Kaelten | just a quick build option |
| 04:09.11 | clad|sleep | hrm yeah we can, but you have to convince me there's a reason to be doing it =), compared to the tarballs. |
| 04:09.33 | clad|sleep | Either you download the .zip file from the site we set up, or you download the .tar.gz from the websvn |
| 04:09.35 | clad|sleep | and realease from that |
| 04:09.55 | Kaelten | I guess the main thing I want is an automated release system for the main ace projects. |
| 04:10.12 | clad|sleep | as infrequent as they are? |
| 04:10.18 | ckknight | I can't access wowace.com |
| 04:10.37 | clad|sleep | ckknight: loads right up for me. |
| 04:10.51 | clad|sleep | ckknight: want your svn account info? |
| 04:10.51 | Kaelten | ckknight, works for me too |
| 04:11.02 | ckknight | Error, cannot locate remote server |
| 04:11.07 | Kaelten | clad|sleep, I guess I just like cool things. |
| 04:11.43 | hyperChipmunk | hey, look, it's Omnnibus |
| 04:11.44 | Kaelten | ckknight, works just fine on my end |
| 04:12.45 | ckknight | Omnibus is like a technology thing |
| 04:13.16 | hyperChipmunk | actually omnibus is like a literature thing |
| 04:13.35 | ckknight | that's it |
| 04:13.50 | hyperChipmunk | it's like an anthology |
| 04:14.04 | ckknight | definitely can't access wowace.com |
| 04:14.10 | ckknight | I can access other sites, though |
| 04:14.21 | clad|sleep | Kaelten: I bet the DNS information is wrong for svn.wowace |
| 04:14.25 | clad|sleep | we'll need to get it fixed imo |
| 04:14.26 | hyperChipmunk | that's cuz there isn't a wowace.com |
| 04:14.31 | hyperChipmunk | oh, n/m |
| 04:14.33 | hyperChipmunk | ya there is =) |
| 04:14.57 | clad|sleep | ckknight: Have an email I can email you at later? |
| 04:15.12 | hyperChipmunk | so, ckknight |
| 04:15.12 | ckknight | ckknight @ gmail |
| 04:15.21 | ckknight | do I get my acesvn account yet/ |
| 04:15.22 | ckknight | ? |
| 04:15.23 | hyperChipmunk | are you ready to witness The Masterpiece? |
| 04:15.29 | clad|sleep | yeah, i just asked you |
| 04:15.46 | ckknight | you did? |
| 04:16.17 | clad|sleep | yeah |
| 04:16.19 | clad|sleep | via PM |
| 04:16.23 | clad|sleep | dunno if one of us isn't registered |
| 04:16.26 | ckknight | oh |
| 04:16.28 | clad|sleep | i was |
| 04:16.30 | Wobin_ | <clad|sleep> ckknight: want your svn account info? |
| 04:16.33 | ckknight | my bad |
| 04:16.45 | ckknight | not registered |
| 04:17.11 | clad|sleep | sokay |
| 04:17.28 | clad|sleep | I sent it off to you |
| 04:19.16 | Kaelten | clad|sleep, svn.wowace.com |
| 04:19.29 | Kaelten | works for me |
| 04:19.32 | clad|sleep | clad|sleep: Yes it does. |
| 04:19.37 | clad|sleep | Kaelten: But i think dolby did it by IP address |
| 04:19.39 | clad|sleep | and it can't be done that way |
| 04:19.46 | Kaelten | it has to be done that way |
| 04:19.48 | clad|sleep | we'll need to get it resolved, before we run into an issue is all i'm saying. |
| 04:19.51 | clad|sleep | well then |
| 04:19.53 | clad|sleep | we'll be playing cat and mouse. |
| 04:19.56 | Kaelten | yep |
| 04:19.59 | clad|sleep | thats bad. |
| 04:20.06 | Kaelten | it has to point to an ip |
| 04:20.09 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=Tekk@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net) |
| 04:20.12 | clad|sleep | i know it doens't have to be done that way, so that's unfortuante. |
| 04:20.19 | Kaelten | I'll check with dolby |
| 04:20.29 | Kaelten | when I was talking with him lasttime he was at the fanfair |
| 04:20.39 | Kaelten | anyway guys I start my new job tommorow I got to get going |
| 04:20.45 | clad|sleep | We need to point to the nameservers at dreamhost. |
| 04:20.45 | clad|sleep | ok |
| 04:20.47 | Kaelten | got to be at work earlier and on time. |
| 04:20.48 | clad|sleep | best wishes Kaelten |
| 04:20.56 | Tekkub | bah, call in gay |
| 04:21.41 | Kaelten | call in gay? |
| 04:21.43 | hyperChipmunk | gl |
| 04:21.46 | hyperChipmunk | ~gayexcuse |
| 04:21.52 | hyperChipmunk | ~gay excuse |
| 04:22.00 | hyperChipmunk | darn, I know it's in there |
| 04:22.07 | hyperChipmunk | ~listkeys gay |
| 04:22.17 | ckknight | ~gay love |
| 04:22.19 | purl | i heard gay love is what ody is all about |
| 04:22.34 | clad|sleep | ~creator of gayness |
| 04:22.35 | purl | it has been said that creator of gayness is zwampy and he likes it |
| 04:22.39 | hyperChipmunk | how do you get the scond page? |
| 04:22.42 | hyperChipmunk | ~listkeys gay 2 |
| 04:22.46 | clad|sleep | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:22.48 | hyperChipmunk | ~listkeys gay |
| 04:24.22 | hyperChipmunk | ~gay sickness |
| 04:24.23 | purl | "I'm sorry I can't come to work today, it seems I'm gay. I'll probably be gay all week" |
| 04:24.29 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:24.29 | hyperChipmunk | there she is |
| 04:24.35 | ckknight | that's great |
| 04:25.24 | hyperChipmunk | :q |
| 04:25.26 | hyperChipmunk | oops |
| 04:25.51 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:25.57 | hyperChipmunk | >8x |
| 04:26.03 | Tekkub | so if anyone else uses the Wiki (I don't think they do).... templates kick ass! |
| 04:26.37 | clad|sleep | hahaha |
| 04:26.40 | clad|sleep | never used templated. |
| 04:26.45 | clad|sleep | s/ed/es |
| 04:26.57 | clad|sleep | write a wiki page about how to use templates =) |
| 04:27.22 | hyperChipmunk | how come I can't check out my own repo =P |
| 04:27.35 | clad|sleep | what are you talking about? |
| 04:27.39 | clad|sleep | what are you doing specifically? |
| 04:27.52 | hyperChipmunk | [staharaj@hyperion]$ svn co http://svn.wowace.com/trunk/FuBar_BattlegroundFu |
| 04:27.52 | hyperChipmunk | svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/trunk/FuBar_BattlegroundFu' |
| 04:27.53 | hyperChipmunk | svn: PROPFIND of '/trunk/FuBar_BattlegroundFu': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://svn.wowace.com) |
| 04:28.14 | clad|sleep | http://wowace.com/root/trunk/FuBar_BattlegroundFu |
| 04:28.19 | hyperChipmunk | thanks =) |
| 04:28.26 | clad|sleep | you HAVE to include the repo name =) which is "root" |
| 04:28.30 | Tekkub | SVN good to go claddo? |
| 04:28.31 | clad|sleep | we got really exciting with it =) |
| 04:28.32 | hyperChipmunk | wooo |
| 04:28.34 | clad|sleep | Tekkub: Yes |
| 04:28.38 | Tekkub | (sweets) |
| 04:28.44 | clad|sleep | Tekkub: You'll have to check out, copy over and re-commit |
| 04:28.47 | hyperChipmunk | revision 256 =D |
| 04:28.49 | ckknight | yep |
| 04:28.52 | Tekkub | yea I know :) |
| 04:28.52 | ckknight | GloryLib was 256 |
| 04:28.52 | clad|sleep | I'll post guidelines tomorrow on the forums. |
| 04:28.54 | clad|sleep | so people all know. |
| 04:29.16 | hyperChipmunk | did you make any changes to glorylib |
| 04:29.16 | Tekkub | use the "what is the SVN page" |
| 04:29.22 | Tekkub | :) |
| 04:29.25 | hyperChipmunk | if not, I'm gonna upload a truck-full of them |
| 04:29.31 | ckknight | nope |
| 04:29.34 | hyperChipmunk | beauty |
| 04:29.37 | ckknight | I was playing my priest all day |
| 04:29.45 | clad|sleep | Tekkub was commits 129-200 =) |
| 04:29.46 | ckknight | yep, use the GloryLib folder |
| 04:29.54 | Tekkub | *rawr* |
| 04:30.20 | clad|sleep | PLEASE prefix your commit messages with the addon/library you are updating. |
| 04:30.26 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:30.27 | ckknight | okay |
| 04:30.29 | clad|sleep | =) |
| 04:30.32 | ckknight | :-P |
| 04:30.35 | clad|sleep | just for the RSS feeds |
| 04:30.41 | clad|sleep | so they know whats being updated |
| 04:30.46 | Tekkub | Example: "FuBar - I fixed a bug" |
| 04:31.04 | clad|sleep | Example: Cladhaire - Went to sleep |
| 04:31.09 | clad|sleep | Commited revision 257 |
| 04:31.10 | ckknight | yea, I'll be putting FuBar 1.0 up on Monday |
| 04:31.19 | ckknight | then releasing it to WoWI on Tuesday |
| 04:31.24 | Tekkub | Boss, you gonna move fubar to the AceSVN or leave it on your personal one? |
| 04:31.31 | ckknight | to AceSVN |
| 04:31.36 | Tekkub | sweets :) |
| 04:31.43 | ckknight | along with all plugins |
| 04:31.50 | ckknight | and libraries |
| 04:31.53 | Tekkub | will you write a batch to update all your embedlibs so they commit up too? |
| 04:32.04 | ckknight | prolly not |
| 04:32.10 | Tekkub | the SVN should match what you release *grin* |
| 04:32.20 | ckknight | why? |
| 04:32.25 | Tekkub | why not? |
| 04:32.33 | Tekkub | plenty of us update from the SVN |
| 04:32.42 | Tekkub | it should be no different than the official posts |
| 04:32.54 | ckknight | when I upgrade GloryLib for example, I don't want to do it in 3 places |
| 04:33.05 | Tekkub | commit what you publish, publish what you commit |
| 04:33.21 | ckknight | publishing comes after committing |
| 04:33.22 | Tekkub | one batch file can copy all your libraries for you |
| 04:33.39 | ckknight | I could do something with svn:externals |
| 04:33.43 | Tekkub | you edit the core batch that's in the slandalone folder |
| 04:33.49 | ckknight | but that requires libs to have their own folder |
| 04:34.00 | Tekkub | then run your batch, bam all your mods are updated |
| 04:34.09 | Tekkub | they don't on your system? |
| 04:34.27 | Tekkub | I write mine as standalones, commit up those... |
| 04:34.27 | ckknight | I mean, I could have it be FuBar_HonorFu/GloryLib/GloryLib.lua |
| 04:34.37 | Tekkub | copy the lua files to the mods tha tembed em, commit those |
| 04:34.42 | ckknight | have the GloryLib/ be an svn:external |
| 04:34.45 | Tekkub | tag that , zip it, publish |
| 04:35.00 | Tekkub | you're overthinking it man |
| 04:35.02 | ckknight | what do you mean by tag? |
| 04:35.10 | ckknight | see, I don't want any extra hassle |
| 04:35.14 | Tekkub | *slap* |
| 04:35.26 | ckknight | if I get any extra hassle, I'll just not change |
| 04:35.28 | ckknight | simple as that |
| 04:35.45 | Tekkub | a single batch file should be LESS hastle than making sure you remember to include the latest version in your releases |
| 04:36.01 | Tekkub | okey, let me give you example |
| 04:36.09 | Tekkub | me, Compost... |
| 04:36.20 | Tekkub | I develop in addons\compost... |
| 04:36.24 | ckknight | Tekkub, I have a package.sh file. |
| 04:36.28 | ckknight | thats how I do it now |
| 04:36.32 | Tekkub | I commit up that folder as the compost release |
| 04:36.36 | ckknight | I run it, it packages everything perfectly |
| 04:36.59 | Tekkub | ugh |
| 04:37.01 | ckknight | but don't you have to commit to all your addons that use compost as well? |
| 04:37.19 | Tekkub | not unless they change |
| 04:37.29 | Tekkub | BUT I use a script to copy new compost to all of them |
| 04:37.39 | ckknight | seems more complicated than my way |
| 04:37.40 | Tekkub | so when I DO commit one up it's the most recent |
| 04:37.49 | Tekkub | look at it from our side |
| 04:37.53 | Tekkub | I pull down fubar |
| 04:37.58 | Tekkub | you don't have your embeds |
| 04:38.03 | Tekkub | I have to go find them |
| 04:38.09 | Tekkub | I have to update them... |
| 04:38.29 | Tekkub | your SVN commits shoud be an exact mirror of what you release |
| 04:38.31 | ckknight | if you use svn, just use em as addons, not libs |
| 04:38.37 | ckknight | why? |
| 04:39.15 | Tekkub | because I don't want to update "embedded" libraries that I don't use in anthing but one addon |
| 04:39.20 | Tekkub | it makes no sense |
| 04:39.41 | Tekkub | and go learn what a tag is and maybe it'll make a bit more sense to you |
| 04:39.50 | ckknight | link |
| 04:41.05 | hyperChipmunk | GloryLib and BatFu code are in |
| 04:41.15 | hyperChipmunk | I really think you ought to look at what I've done, boss =) |
| 04:41.50 | ckknight | after I learn what a tag is |
| 04:41.54 | ckknight | link me |
| 04:42.40 | Tekkub | pick up a fucking SVN manual |
| 04:42.59 | Codayus | tl;dr |
| 04:43.09 | ckknight | wow, don't be such a fucking dick. |
| 04:44.35 | hyperChipmunk | I discussed that with cladhaire earlier |
| 04:44.36 | ckknight | you've given me nothing but ill repute |
| 04:44.44 | hyperChipmunk | it's not too far up |
| 04:45.37 | hyperChipmunk | the way we decided was the best way was to first commit the Library, with associated changes tacked onto the comment for that |
| 04:46.10 | hyperChipmunk | and then add the FooLib.lua with your addon upload, and in the comments, have "updated to RevX of FooLib" |
| 04:46.23 | hyperChipmunk | liek I just did with BatFu and GloryLib |
| 04:46.49 | Tekkub | you don't even have to commit up the addons if just the library changed, unless you think it's vital to that addon that it be updated |
| 04:47.21 | Tekkub | it's a trivial matter to write a copy script that makes all your local coppies stay up to date, then when you commit one it's always up to date |
| 04:48.03 | Tekkub | your release process should be: commit up trunk, tag trunk, package tag, release |
| 04:48.47 | Tekkub | that's the whole point of tag, it's a snapshot ofdev at an important point. Leaving out embeds makes it an incomplete snapshot |
| 04:49.09 | Tekkub | and since tagging is just copying over trunk, trunk should also be "complete" |
| 04:51.27 | ckknight | you write the script, maybe I'll use it |
| 04:52.11 | Tekkub | I'll give you mine, it's windows tho so I don't know if it'll help |
| 04:52.51 | ckknight | I use Windows |
| 04:52.51 | ckknight | mostly |
| 04:52.51 | Tekkub | copy /Y "C:\Program Files (x86)\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\CompostLib\CompostLib.lua" "C:\Program Files (x86)\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\PerfectRaidTargets\CompostLib.lua" |
| 04:53.01 | Tekkub | copy, paste, change paths |
| 04:53.35 | Tekkub | after you update a lib, run that, it'll update em all.... |
| 04:53.43 | Tekkub | add a new mod? copy/paste/change |
| 04:54.09 | Tekkub | if you want to commit every mod that updated then do so, or just the ones you think need it |
| 04:54.27 | ckknight | is the tags folder a separate revision number than trunk? |
| 04:54.44 | Tekkub | no |
| 04:54.47 | ckknight | okay |
| 04:54.48 | ckknight | good |
| 04:54.54 | Tekkub | it's sequential across the whole repo |
| 04:55.10 | Tekkub | mine usually work out like this: |
| 04:55.16 | ckknight | oh yea, the root is 'root' |
| 04:55.27 | Tekkub | trunk "AddonName - Metadata update for release" |
| 04:55.48 | Tekkub | copy to tag "AddonName - Release v3" |
| 04:55.55 | Tekkub | pacage, release to WoWI |
| 04:55.59 | ckknight | so basically, I should put the embedded libs into the tags part? |
| 04:56.24 | Tekkub | just keep the embeds in your local, then they go up with any commit or tag you do |
| 04:56.26 | ckknight | I'm more the type to release nightly builds... |
| 04:56.39 | Tekkub | nightly builds are basically trunk... |
| 04:56.45 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:56.46 | Tekkub | tag are "real" releases |
| 04:56.59 | ckknight | why make a separation? |
| 04:57.09 | Tekkub | you don't have to tag every build you post to wWoWI, just significant ones |
| 04:57.17 | Tekkub | look at it like this: |
| 04:57.22 | Tekkub | branch == alhpa |
| 04:57.26 | Tekkub | trunk == beta |
| 04:57.34 | Tekkub | tag == RC and Gold |
| 04:57.41 | ckknight | hrm |
| 04:58.03 | Tekkub | trunk should be "stable" betaish builds |
| 04:58.14 | Codayus | The distinction I've run across is that you tag anything you might want to refer back to at some point. If you can imagine saying "Oh well, look, you use the 1.75 version for a while until this is sorted." then 1.75 should be a tag... |
| 04:58.19 | Tekkub | tag should be full blown "we're going to pless with this" |
| 04:58.49 | Tekkub | well put Cod |
| 04:58.55 | ckknight | but I plan to keep updating, even after I release 1.0 |
| 04:59.02 | hyperChipmunk | then that's your branch |
| 04:59.05 | hyperChipmunk | er |
| 04:59.07 | hyperChipmunk | trunk |
| 04:59.09 | Tekkub | 1.0 would be a tag |
| 04:59.12 | Codayus | There's no "right" answer. 1.0 would obviously be a tag. |
| 04:59.13 | hyperChipmunk | trunk is continuous |
| 04:59.21 | ckknight | yea, but what of bugfixes? |
| 04:59.28 | Tekkub | trunk is basically nightly stable builds |
| 04:59.37 | Tekkub | bugfixes go in trunk |
| 04:59.47 | Tekkub | you don't use branch that much... |
| 04:59.48 | ckknight | and those don't get released? |
| 04:59.52 | Tekkub | like here's an example |
| 05:00.00 | hyperChipmunk | when you're putting in new features, then those go in branch |
| 05:00.05 | hyperChipmunk | you continue to bugfix the trunk |
| 05:00.09 | Tekkub | if you want to release em on WoWI that's all your choice |
| 05:00.16 | Tekkub | tag is just a copy |
| 05:00.19 | hyperChipmunk | and then when you get to your next major release, you merge them back together |
| 05:00.34 | ckknight | but tag would be outdated quickly |
| 05:00.44 | Tekkub | if the new features would break trunk that is |
| 05:00.56 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 05:00.57 | Tekkub | tag is not supposed to be updated |
| 05:01.07 | ckknight | so what's the point? |
| 05:01.10 | Tekkub | tag is an image of one point in the dev cycle... |
| 05:01.22 | Tekkub | important stuff, tag it, like a bookmark |
| 05:01.33 | Tekkub | trunk is still the core dev |
| 05:01.37 | ckknight | I don't see a purpose to it |
| 05:01.45 | ckknight | cause you'll just work on trunk |
| 05:01.50 | Tekkub | branch is for side crap to happen without effecting trunk until it's ready |
| 05:01.54 | ckknight | and that can be release quality |
| 05:02.00 | ckknight | I understand branch vs. trunk |
| 05:02.04 | Tekkub | that's how I work |
| 05:02.04 | hyperChipmunk | then release your trunks |
| 05:02.10 | ckknight | but not really trunk vs. tag |
| 05:02.18 | Tekkub | but I tag any time I release a version on WoWI cause I rarely do |
| 05:02.37 | Tekkub | for you, you'd proll only tag things like v1.0 |
| 05:02.37 | ckknight | and I like to release so much that it confuses users |
| 05:02.41 | ckknight | alright |
| 05:03.01 | Tekkub | tags are quick, it just copies over what's in trunk |
| 05:03.11 | ckknight | alright |
| 05:03.18 | Tekkub | look at tag like bookmarks, it's the best analygy |
| 05:03.25 | ckknight | alright |
| 05:03.33 | ckknight | I understand it basically now |
| 05:03.39 | ckknight | I just don't personally see me using tag much |
| 05:03.45 | ckknight | except for point releases |
| 05:03.46 | hyperChipmunk | however, the necessary first step should be to take a look at the FuBar and GLoryLib stuff I busted my balls over this week and give me some feedback before I have to go to sleep |
| 05:03.51 | Tekkub | I don't use it much either like I said |
| 05:03.54 | hyperChipmunk | nobody does |
| 05:03.56 | ckknight | yea, I was getting to that, hyperChipmunk |
| 05:04.05 | ckknight | where'd you put it, hyperChipmunk ? |
| 05:04.07 | hyperChipmunk | I've never done a tag before |
| 05:04.10 | hyperChipmunk | it's up there |
| 05:04.20 | Tekkub | I do use branch from time to time, like when I converted SE's core to handle enabling/disabling modules |
| 05:04.28 | hyperChipmunk | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/FuBar_BattlegroundFu |
| 05:04.31 | hyperChipmunk | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/GloryLib |
| 05:05.24 | ckknight | what does GWSUII mean? |
| 05:05.37 | hyperChipmunk | oh, thought there was a comment there |
| 05:05.41 | hyperChipmunk | GetWorldStateUIInfo |
| 05:05.52 | hyperChipmunk | basically, uh, the score string |
| 05:05.57 | ckknight | gah |
| 05:05.59 | ckknight | use a better name |
| 05:06.00 | hyperChipmunk | like Bases: 3 Resources: 500/2000 |
| 05:06.30 | Codayus | Hmm, GuildFu and SkillsFu are spitting out errors about deprecated tooltip format calls or something... |
| 05:06.50 | hyperChipmunk | change your FuBarTooltip:AddX to self.tooltip:AddX |
| 05:07.15 | Codayus | Oh? That simple? Heh. |
| 05:07.36 | hyperChipmunk | and it's not my fault bliz has to use such stupid names for its battleground stuff |
| 05:08.00 | ckknight | yea, that's all the authors need to do |
| 05:08.17 | ckknight | also, if you do that, you'll be able to unpin the tooltips |
| 05:08.28 | hyperChipmunk | (much rejoicing) |
| 05:08.29 | ckknight | so you can have your guildlist or skillist on screen at all times |
| 05:09.00 | ckknight | you know, I'm gonna put FuBar up |
| 05:09.02 | ckknight | I don't see why not |
| 05:09.07 | Codayus | Yeah, I was playing with QuestFu earlier. Really a nifty interface. |
| 05:09.25 | Codayus | Detachable tooltips just works really well for a lot of things... |
| 05:09.53 | hyperChipmunk | you mean you were playing with BatFu |
| 05:10.01 | hyperChipmunk | and marvelling how nifty it is |
| 05:10.12 | Codayus | I was? |
| 05:10.16 | hyperChipmunk | you totally were |
| 05:10.19 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 05:10.23 | Codayus | What's BatFu? :-) |
| 05:10.35 | hyperChipmunk | FuBar_BattlegroundFu |
| 05:10.41 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 05:10.43 | Codayus | What does it do? |
| 05:10.56 | hyperChipmunk | what does it do?!! |
| 05:11.10 | hyperChipmunk | "What does it do," he asks!!! |
| 05:11.29 | hyperChipmunk | my friend, the question you should be asking is, "What DOESN'T it do!?" |
| 05:12.02 | Codayus | Does it bake me cookies? |
| 05:12.08 | ckknight | can it increase my sex drive? |
| 05:12.25 | ckknight | updated GloryLib |
| 05:12.41 | hyperChipmunk | k *yoink* |
| 05:12.59 | ckknight | hey, anyone know how to set properties with TortoiseSVN? |
| 05:13.06 | hyperChipmunk | ha sweet |
| 05:13.09 | hyperChipmunk | that works so well |
| 05:13.30 | ckknight | cause I want to have automatic minor versioning in my files |
| 05:15.08 | ckknight | figured it out |
| 05:18.43 | ckknight | alright |
| 05:18.46 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, update |
| 05:18.47 | ckknight | check it out |
| 05:20.15 | hyperChipmunk | neat |
| 05:20.26 | ckknight | yep |
| 05:20.40 | hyperChipmunk | and I won't have to do anything special? |
| 05:22.38 | hyperChipmunk | i have two bugs to report for fubar btw |
| 05:23.05 | hyperChipmunk | there's an error if you try to drag a plugin and place it off the edge of the screen |
| 05:23.36 | ckknight | I'm auditing your code now |
| 05:23.43 | ckknight | oh? |
| 05:23.49 | hyperChipmunk | and for some reason, when I've only got queues showing up in my tooltip and it's detached, it doesn't calculate the height correctly and when i drag it off the bottom of the screen, it comes up way too high |
| 05:24.05 | hyperChipmunk | oh that's fine; don't mean to interrupt |
| 05:24.41 | hyperChipmunk | just wanted to get them down; let me know if you want any of those in a bug report |
| 05:26.29 | ckknight | gonna want to have Neriak or someone look at the localizations... |
| 05:27.10 | hyperChipmunk | btw, not been able to test the time-to-victory stuff; I THINK the logic is right, and I triple checked the syntax...but no AB games in 6 hours |
| 05:27.36 | ckknight | next to every needed localization, I put -- CHECK |
| 05:28.27 | hyperChipmunk | I'm not sure what we're gonna do about localization |
| 05:28.56 | hyperChipmunk | needs to be someone who actually does the battlegrounds |
| 05:29.14 | ckknight | also, you use FACTION_ALLIANCE and FACTION_HORDE in places you should use "Alliance" and "Horde" |
| 05:29.30 | ckknight | another downfall of the Blizzard API |
| 05:29.32 | ckknight | inconsistency |
| 05:29.32 | hyperChipmunk | and can get construct some patterns to get the values I need |
| 05:29.51 | ckknight | UnitFactionGroup("player") always returns "Alliance" or "Horde", no matter the localizatioon |
| 05:30.17 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 05:30.24 | hyperChipmunk | I've never had any of my addons localized before |
| 05:30.27 | ckknight | okay, you know, I want to separate CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE into the 3 separate parts |
| 05:30.44 | hyperChipmunk | well, one, but it wasn't reliant on that kind of stuff |
| 05:30.45 | ckknight | CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_ALLIANCE and CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_YELL |
| 05:32.36 | ckknight | I'm optimizing my flag capture code now |
| 05:32.53 | ckknight | do you know if you can separate your parts easy enough? |
| 05:33.23 | hyperChipmunk | my stuff from yours? |
| 05:33.39 | hyperChipmunk | yea, it's all delineated; I can make you a stub with just my stuff |
| 05:33.43 | hyperChipmunk | and you can insert it where you like |
| 05:33.59 | ckknight | no, not your stuff from mine |
| 05:34.05 | ckknight | I mean, alliance vs. horde vs. monster yell |
| 05:34.17 | hyperChipmunk | hum |
| 05:34.23 | hyperChipmunk | monster yell is only AV |
| 05:34.43 | hyperChipmunk | but AB uses CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_X |
| 05:34.50 | hyperChipmunk | so there's gonna be some duplication |
| 05:35.23 | hyperChipmunk | but yes, I do know which stuff is triggered where |
| 05:36.11 | ckknight | okay, updated |
| 05:36.25 | hyperChipmunk | checking it out |
| 05:36.30 | ckknight | why does there have to be duplication? |
| 05:36.36 | ckknight | I just added some needed returns and such |
| 05:36.40 | ckknight | optimized |
| 05:36.44 | hyperChipmunk | oh, well some of the AB stuff and AV stuff are the same |
| 05:36.47 | ckknight | okay |
| 05:36.52 | ckknight | that's fine |
| 05:36.59 | ckknight | but you don't want to check for flag caps in monster yell |
| 05:37.01 | hyperChipmunk | capturing gys is much the same as capturing resource nodes |
| 05:37.04 | ckknight | if you know what I mean |
| 05:37.07 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 05:37.11 | hyperChipmunk | oh that's easy |
| 05:37.21 | ckknight | notice where I put returns |
| 05:37.24 | hyperChipmunk | yea, we can split that up no problem |
| 05:37.27 | ckknight | okay |
| 05:37.36 | ckknight | I don't know AB or AV |
| 05:37.36 | hyperChipmunk | yeap, studying the diff |
| 05:37.42 | ckknight | so you have to do that |
| 05:37.56 | ckknight | I'll make the separate functions now |
| 05:41.18 | ckknight | updated |
| 05:46.24 | hyperChipmunk | k, finished looking at those |
| 05:47.00 | hyperChipmunk | and yea, the returns are something I think I thought about, but forgot to do later |
| 05:47.16 | hyperChipmunk | wasn't sure how I was gonna do 'em |
| 05:47.18 | hyperChipmunk | that works |
| 05:47.34 | ckknight | alright |
| 05:47.38 | ckknight | I'm optimizing other parts now |
| 05:48.31 | ckknight | also, I'm changing everything that returns a table to return an iterator instead |
| 05:49.12 | hyperChipmunk | okay =) |
| 05:49.25 | hyperChipmunk | I'll find out what that means when I see it >8) |
| 05:50.00 | hyperChipmunk | wee this is fun |
| 05:50.08 | hyperChipmunk | learning so many new things |
| 05:51.06 | ckknight | for id in glory:IterateQueuedBattlefieldIndices() do ... end |
| 05:51.37 | ckknight | instead of dealing with a table, just deal with an iterator |
| 05:53.30 | ckknight | it's much more efficient |
| 05:53.34 | ckknight | no table creation |
| 05:53.37 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 05:53.57 | hyperChipmunk | and for the events, everything that I added was AB/AV |
| 05:54.00 | hyperChipmunk | I didn't touch the wsg |
| 05:54.35 | hyperChipmunk | so I can re-upload this, or you can just copy the chunks yourself, since it's already delineated |
| 05:54.55 | ckknight | did you just mess with the chat stuff? |
| 05:55.00 | ckknight | if so, pastebin |
| 05:55.09 | hyperChipmunk | everything between "--hyperactiveChipmunk was here" and "--hyperactiveChipmunk has left. Check for chaos and destruction", basically =0 |
| 05:55.12 | hyperChipmunk | ok |
| 05:55.18 | hyperChipmunk | i THINK this is what you wnt |
| 05:55.23 | hyperChipmunk | if not, i can fix |
| 05:56.28 | ckknight | okay |
| 05:56.40 | ckknight | I got rid of GetQueuedBattlefieldZones, redudant with the new iterator |
| 05:56.52 | hyperChipmunk | alright |
| 05:57.07 | ckknight | so you'd do for i, name in glory:IterateQueuedBattlefieldZones() do print(i, zone) end |
| 05:57.19 | ckknight | err, print(i,name) |
| 05:57.33 | hyperChipmunk | some of the stuff in there I didn't actually use, but thought might be useful |
| 05:57.50 | hyperChipmunk | since other people might want to use it |
| 05:57.58 | hyperChipmunk | oh very good |
| 05:58.40 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastebin.com/664437 |
| 05:59.00 | hyperChipmunk | might be better to put that stuff in a function or something, and just call it from each of the events |
| 05:59.07 | hyperChipmunk | that's how I did it with my original |
| 05:59.24 | ckknight | that's what I want |
| 05:59.25 | hyperChipmunk | I had one function, and just made the three events all trigger that |
| 05:59.34 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:59.57 | hyperChipmunk | you could have WSG components and AV/AB components |
| 05:59.58 | ckknight | would you want to do that? |
| 06:00.02 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 06:00.05 | ckknight | alright |
| 06:00.07 | ckknight | hack away |
| 06:00.16 | hyperChipmunk | would be easier for them to be modified if they're separated logically that way, too |
| 06:00.36 | hyperChipmunk | and you can mix 'n' match based on what you want to look for with the different events |
| 06:03.58 | ckknight | I'm taking out HasTimeAttacked(node) |
| 06:04.03 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 06:04.25 | hyperChipmunk | i just use if GetTimeAttacked() anyway |
| 06:04.40 | ckknight | use GetTime(), not time() |
| 06:05.15 | ckknight | it's faster and more accurate |
| 06:05.18 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 06:05.19 | ckknight | but not long term |
| 06:05.23 | ckknight | which we don't need |
| 06:05.37 | hyperChipmunk | my maximum span is 5 minutes |
| 06:06.27 | ckknight | replacing GetObjectiveNodesList with IterateObjectiveNodes |
| 06:09.24 | hyperChipmunk | will that still be sortable? |
| 06:10.45 | ckknight | making another iterator for that |
| 06:10.51 | ckknight | IterateSortedObjectiveNodes |
| 06:13.30 | ckknight | it seems like self.BattlefieldObjectiveStatus is a list, not a hash |
| 06:13.32 | ckknight | is that true? |
| 06:15.06 | ckknight | if it is, there are manyoptimizations to be had |
| 06:17.01 | hyperChipmunk | self.BattlefieldObjectiveStatus is has an indeterminate amount of pois in it |
| 06:17.08 | hyperChipmunk | each one can have several properties |
| 06:17.30 | hyperChipmunk | depending on the state of the battlefield |
| 06:17.43 | ckknight | but they're not jagged, though, right? |
| 06:17.53 | hyperChipmunk | maximum depth of 2 |
| 06:17.54 | ckknight | you won't have POI 1, 3, and 4, without 2? |
| 06:18.00 | hyperChipmunk | oh, yes you will |
| 06:18.05 | ckknight | ah |
| 06:18.06 | ckknight | how come? |
| 06:18.26 | hyperChipmunk | cuz anything you mouse over on the map that gives text is a poi |
| 06:19.01 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 06:19.02 | ckknight | I got ya |
| 06:19.05 | hyperChipmunk | in AV, there's lots of stuff in there--caves, for instance--that aren't objectives |
| 06:19.11 | ckknight | oh well |
| 06:19.14 | ckknight | optimized anyway |
| 06:19.19 | hyperChipmunk | in AB, there's 5 objectives, 5 pois |
| 06:19.26 | hyperChipmunk | in AV, it's like 15/22 |
| 06:19.46 | hyperChipmunk | and who knows what's in the future |
| 06:19.46 | ckknight | BattlefieldObjectivesTableExists() is a horrible method name |
| 06:19.49 | ckknight | what does it actually test? |
| 06:19.56 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 06:20.00 | ckknight | i.e. when do you use it? |
| 06:20.18 | hyperChipmunk | the name went through like 5 iterations |
| 06:20.26 | hyperChipmunk | trash it if you like |
| 06:20.29 | hyperChipmunk | I don't think I need it |
| 06:20.32 | ckknight | alright |
| 06:20.45 | ckknight | would it ever be used/useful? |
| 06:21.32 | hyperChipmunk | actually |
| 06:21.37 | hyperChipmunk | I think I made it a local function |
| 06:21.40 | hyperChipmunk | er |
| 06:21.41 | hyperChipmunk | table |
| 06:21.47 | ckknight | nope |
| 06:21.54 | hyperChipmunk | so that might be the only way I allowed it to be visible |
| 06:21.55 | ckknight | wait, ? |
| 06:21.55 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 06:22.31 | ckknight | okay, I'm trashing BattlefieldObjectivesTableExists() |
| 06:22.35 | hyperChipmunk | BattlefieldObjectiveStatus |
| 06:22.37 | ckknight | doesn't seem useful |
| 06:22.46 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 06:22.52 | ckknight | it's self.BattlefieldObjectiveStatus |
| 06:24.17 | hyperChipmunk | I think I did that to make it easier to look at while I was still making it work right |
| 06:24.26 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:24.31 | ckknight | adding more optimizations... |
| 06:24.35 | hyperChipmunk | I think it could be local |
| 06:24.55 | hyperChipmunk | I tried to make sufficient API to cover the entire thing |
| 06:25.06 | hyperChipmunk | it shouldn't be accessed directly |
| 06:25.25 | hyperChipmunk | everything in it is created by events |
| 06:26.49 | ckknight | adding lots of compost opiimzations... |
| 06:27.50 | hyperChipmunk | yay |
| 06:28.34 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:28.38 | ckknight | you can't assume compost |
| 06:28.46 | ckknight | but you can check if it does exist |
| 06:28.52 | ckknight | and if it does, abuse like crazy |
| 06:30.04 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 06:30.10 | hyperChipmunk | you can if you're using FuBar |
| 06:30.10 | ckknight | it seems like none of the OnObjectiveClaimed and stuff should be visible to the public |
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| 06:30.19 | hyperChipmunk | correct |
| 06:30.23 | ckknight | alright |
| 06:30.29 | ckknight | that should all go in events... |
| 06:30.45 | hyperChipmunk | oh, right, i forgot to post what i had |
| 06:30.58 | ckknight | you done with separating things into funcitons? |
| 06:31.26 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastebin.com/664470 was just my function |
| 06:31.30 | hyperChipmunk | yours are subtly different |
| 06:31.34 | hyperChipmunk | but that's a good chunk |
| 06:31.41 | ckknight | why do you do SetMapToCurrentZone()? |
| 06:31.53 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 06:31.55 | ckknight | that seems bad |
| 06:31.59 | hyperChipmunk | nono |
| 06:32.08 | hyperChipmunk | because you can't get POI info |
| 06:32.12 | hyperChipmunk | you get it for the last zone |
| 06:32.19 | hyperChipmunk | until the map is opened |
| 06:32.32 | hyperChipmunk | so you get in and it spews many errors cuz it can't find any objectives |
| 06:32.47 | hyperChipmunk | the POIs relate to the map, not the zone |
| 06:32.57 | hyperChipmunk | just cuz you're in a zone, doesn't mean you have the POIs |
| 06:32.58 | ckknight | ah |
| 06:32.59 | hyperChipmunk | or the map |
| 06:33.04 | ckknight | how broken... |
| 06:33.14 | hyperChipmunk | you have to either open the map or SetMapToCurrentZone |
| 06:33.15 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 06:33.23 | hyperChipmunk | you have no idea how long it took me to figure that one out |
| 06:33.40 | hyperChipmunk | was tekkub who got me the solution once I figured it out |
| 06:33.52 | Tekkub | eh? |
| 06:34.11 | hyperChipmunk | i think it was you =) |
| 06:34.25 | hyperChipmunk | solved my "it says there's no pois but i'm in the freaking zone" |
| 06:35.08 | hyperChipmunk | #wowace.log:23:21 < Tekkub> SetMapToCurrentZone() <-- try this first |
| 06:35.17 | Tekkub | oh |
| 06:35.39 | Tekkub | ugh... the wiki is being to complex for me |
| 06:35.50 | Tekkub | it needs a simple if structure for templates |
| 06:36.05 | hyperChipmunk | oh crud |
| 06:36.10 | hyperChipmunk | modifying that last pastebin, boss |
| 06:37.05 | hyperChipmunk | k now it's correct |
| 06:37.18 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastebin.com/664475 |
| 06:37.38 | ckknight | I'm changing most of x == FACTION_ALLIANCE to x == FACTION_ALLIANCE or x == "Alliance" |
| 06:37.49 | hyperChipmunk | kay |
| 06:37.53 | hyperChipmunk | good idea |
| 06:38.14 | hyperChipmunk | oh, I guess the function I posted doesn't need to be public-viewable either |
| 06:39.03 | hyperChipmunk | how do you make it not so? |
| 06:39.08 | hyperChipmunk | local function? |
| 06:39.16 | ckknight | local function name() whatever end |
| 06:39.20 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 06:39.29 | ckknight | but then only things after that can use it |
| 06:39.49 | ckknight | if you want to have it be used before you define it, declare local name higher |
| 06:39.57 | ckknight | then do function name() whatever end like normal |
| 06:40.17 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 06:40.18 | hyperChipmunk | got it |
| 06:40.51 | ckknight | question |
| 06:40.53 | ckknight | in GetNumTeamPlayers |
| 06:41.01 | hyperChipmunk | fixed now |
| 06:41.06 | ckknight | why do you compare team to 0 instead of 2? |
| 06:41.14 | hyperChipmunk | cuz horde faction = 0 |
| 06:41.20 | hyperChipmunk | but horde team = 2 |
| 06:41.39 | hyperChipmunk | alliance is 1 for both |
| 06:42.30 | hyperChipmunk | dude, I told you battlegrounds are messy |
| 06:42.44 | ckknight | Jesus |
| 06:42.57 | ckknight | fixed a possible bug in GetFactionColor... |
| 06:43.14 | hyperChipmunk | sorry =\ |
| 06:44.06 | ckknight | no biggie |
| 06:44.13 | ckknight | if you pass a non-string in now, it won't barf |
| 06:44.32 | ckknight | this is a problem with dynamically typed languages |
| 06:44.34 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 06:44.43 | ckknight | well, dynamically, strongly-typed languages |
| 06:44.48 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 06:46.03 | hyperChipmunk | and with the OnObjectiveAttacked stuff, that can be folded right into the events stuff; I just wanted to be able to trigger stuff from in-game to do test |
| 06:46.11 | hyperChipmunk | tests |
| 06:46.47 | hyperChipmunk | convincing an npc to shout, "The foo is under attack!" isn't as easy as you might think =) |
| 06:48.08 | hyperChipmunk | also, that GetNumTeamPlayers needs to be re-looked at...if you switch scoreboard tabs, you suddenly have 0 alliance players or 0 horde players |
| 06:48.44 | hyperChipmunk | people's scores cease to exist, as far as the client is concerned, as soon as you're not looking at them |
| 06:49.12 | hyperChipmunk | or rather, soon as they're not on the scoreboard view your client is currently set to |
| 06:49.46 | hyperChipmunk | so we gonna have to store it locally and look for people coming in going, or something |
| 06:51.45 | hyperChipmunk | unfortunately, player scores and map blips are the only ways to uniquely identify someone as being in the same BG as you |
| 06:51.56 | hyperChipmunk | and you don't get map blips for the other team unless they mind control you =P |
| 06:52.00 | hyperChipmunk | oooh, AB |
| 06:52.44 | ckknight | do monsters only yell in AV? |
| 06:53.18 | hyperChipmunk | a Herald yells status reports |
| 06:53.38 | hyperChipmunk | like in WSG, you know |
| 06:53.43 | hyperChipmunk | long time ago |
| 06:53.53 | hyperChipmunk | it was a herald who called out flag pickups and drops |
| 06:54.10 | hyperChipmunk | well they converted wsg and ab to the new CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_$FACTION |
| 06:54.18 | hyperChipmunk | but av still has a screaming Herald |
| 06:55.27 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:55.28 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:55.37 | ckknight | well, I added more efficiency stuff |
| 06:55.45 | ckknight | like it only checks the flag chat messages if you're in WSG now |
| 06:59.14 | ckknight | committed |
| 06:59.32 | hyperChipmunk | fixing my ab ttv stuff now |
| 06:59.42 | hyperChipmunk | finally got a game =) |
| 07:00.09 | Cairenn | Okay guys, it's set up: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=29&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate |
| 07:00.09 | ckknight | ttv? |
| 07:00.15 | hyperChipmunk | time-to-victory |
| 07:00.31 | hyperChipmunk | wooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOAOW |
| 07:00.38 | ckknight | I want a FuBar category |
| 07:00.39 | Cairenn | anyone can upload to any of the ace sub-categories *other than Core* |
| 07:00.39 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:01.00 | ckknight | jk |
| 07:01.02 | ckknight | alright |
| 07:01.03 | ckknight | cool |
| 07:01.31 | Cairenn | so, ckknight, when FuBar is ready to go "live", we can move it into the appropriate Ace sub-cat ow |
| 07:01.35 | Cairenn | now* |
| 07:01.39 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:01.46 | ckknight | I'm gonna commit 1.0 in a few hours |
| 07:01.52 | ckknight | but release it to WoWI on Tuesday, still |
| 07:01.56 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 07:02.18 | ckknight | messing with GloryLib currently |
| 07:03.50 | Wobin_ | Cairenn: Woohoo =) |
| 07:04.29 | Cairenn | *tomorrow* I am willing to move any mods that are in other categories that need to be moved |
| 07:04.40 | Cairenn | no more tonight though, I'm tired and brain dead at this point |
| 07:04.50 | Wobin_ | ah =) |
| 07:04.55 | Wobin_ | Was about to ask about the process =) |
| 07:05.01 | Wobin_ | Now go to sleep =) |
| 07:05.14 | Cairenn | just finishing my cigarette then I'm doing precisely that |
| 07:05.25 | Cairenn | (waits for the gasps of disapproval) |
| 07:05.31 | hyperChipmunk | ew |
| 07:05.38 | Cairenn | (and shock and dismay) |
| 07:05.45 | hyperChipmunk | le gasp |
| 07:05.54 | hyperChipmunk | woe is me |
| 07:06.12 | hyperChipmunk | my world is shattering before mine eyes |
| 07:06.20 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:06.36 | hyperChipmunk | am I done yet? |
| 07:06.40 | Cairenn | I hope so :p |
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| 07:08.47 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, is it not working? |
| 07:09.03 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 07:09.06 | hyperChipmunk | Cairenn is smoking |
| 07:09.08 | ckknight | oh |
| 07:09.13 | ckknight | naughty |
| 07:09.44 | ckknight | whatever, her life |
| 07:10.58 | ckknight | I keep finding more ways to simplify and optimize the code, hyperChipmunk |
| 07:10.59 | ckknight | hehe |
| 07:11.06 | hyperChipmunk | excellent ! |
| 07:11.09 | hyperChipmunk | I have much to learn |
| 07:11.49 | ckknight | mostly logic stuff |
| 07:12.21 | ckknight | committed |
| 07:18.43 | ckknight | take a look when you can |
| 07:18.46 | ckknight | see if it still works |
| 07:18.48 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 07:18.48 | hyperChipmunk | doing so now |
| 07:19.06 | hyperChipmunk | just got out of ab; made my last change just as time ran out =) |
| 07:19.47 | hyperChipmunk | you and your blasted ^Ms |
| 07:21.12 | ckknight | ^Ms? |
| 07:23.31 | Wobin_ | Tekkub is just as bad =P |
| 07:23.48 | hyperChipmunk | DOS EOL |
| 07:23.53 | Tekkub | ? |
| 07:24.00 | hyperChipmunk | your end-of-lines |
| 07:24.06 | hyperChipmunk | DOS format |
| 07:24.14 | Tekkub | nani? |
| 07:24.21 | hyperChipmunk | vim prints them as ^M |
| 07:24.31 | Tekkub | Six can suck my balls |
| 07:24.34 | otravi | is DOS CR or LF ? |
| 07:24.35 | hyperChipmunk | and i have to dos2unix the whole thing |
| 07:24.46 | hyperChipmunk | every...blasted...time |
| 07:24.50 | otravi | or.. none of those :p |
| 07:25.05 | Tekkub | I file that under "Not my problem" |
| 07:25.16 | otravi | oh does is <CR><LF> :-----D |
| 07:25.20 | otravi | does = DOS |
| 07:26.35 | hyperChipmunk | while position <= MAX_BATTLEFIELD_QUEUES then |
| 07:26.38 | hyperChipmunk | nice one |
| 07:28.01 | Tekkub | someone needs to make AceWiki take images... what's the point of using MEDIAwiki if we no get da mediaz? |
| 07:28.16 | otravi | hyperChipmunk: http://vim.sourceforge.net/tips/tip.php?tip_id=145 << doesn't seem like you have THAT much work to do :p |
| 07:29.29 | hyperChipmunk | that doens't work |
| 07:29.35 | hyperChipmunk | that sets your own save format |
| 07:29.41 | hyperChipmunk | but it's not too hard |
| 07:29.55 | hyperChipmunk | gg!Gdos2unix |
| 07:30.00 | hyperChipmunk | does the trick |
| 07:30.34 | otravi | I'm glad I use scite :p |
| 07:30.38 | otravi | (yay for being lazy) |
| 07:32.20 | hyperChipmunk | oh em ef geez |
| 07:32.30 | hyperChipmunk | just a few typos boss |
| 07:32.37 | hyperChipmunk | recommitting |
| 07:33.11 | hyperChipmunk | merged in my corrections to my ttv code also |
| 07:33.45 | otravi | ~doom |
| 07:33.46 | purl | ACTION stalks otravi, chanting doom on you, doom on you! |
| 07:33.58 | otravi | I was hoping for the doom song :( |
| 07:34.31 | ckknight | typos? |
| 07:34.48 | hyperChipmunk | an = instead of an == |
| 07:34.53 | hyperChipmunk | and that while...then |
| 07:35.51 | Wobin_ | There's a doom song? |
| 07:36.12 | Tem | night guyes |
| 07:36.34 | Cairenn|sleep | night guys |
| 07:36.37 | otravi | Wobin_: watch Invader Zim :) |
| 07:36.44 | Tem | everyone shower Cair with praise |
| 07:37.02 | ckknight | of course there's a doom song |
| 07:37.02 | *** topic/#wowace by Tem|Sleep -> wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | Cair is awesome |
| 07:37.13 | ckknight | hehe, shower |
| 07:37.31 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, I wasn't testing... |
| 07:37.33 | ckknight | but oh well |
| 07:37.38 | ckknight | ~listkeys doom |
| 07:37.46 | ckknight | ~doom song |
| 07:37.47 | purl | "Doom doom doom doom doom doom doom ...." |
| 07:37.52 | ckknight | yep. |
| 07:37.58 | ckknight | let's all sing the doom song |
| 07:39.32 | Wobin_ | ~doom doom |
| 07:39.33 | purl | doom doom is, like, http://david.hedbor.org/tmp/prboom-test.tar.bz2 (uncompress on CF/SD card and run ./prboom -height 240) - needs libSDL from http://eongames.com/downloads/feed/ and libSDL_net from http://david.hedbor.org/tmp/libSDL_net.tar.gz (uncompress in /) |
| 07:39.47 | Wobin_ | ~ibot doom |
| 07:39.55 | Wobin_ | ~thy doom |
| 07:39.59 | purl | hmm... thy doom is nigh. |
| 07:42.32 | hyperChipmunk | yea I know youw weren't |
| 07:42.45 | hyperChipmunk | it starts now |
| 07:43.00 | hyperChipmunk | crap, almost 04:00 |
| 07:43.08 | hyperChipmunk | I got to go to school tomorrow |
| 07:44.01 | sedatedChipmunk | I'll catch up on this tomorrow with ya, boss; I appreciate all the help |
| 07:44.53 | ckknight | cya |
| 07:48.58 | sedatedChipmunk | wsg working =) |
| 07:53.51 | Tekkub | huzzah! |
| 07:54.01 | Tekkub | I am mastering Wiki templates :) |
| 08:06.45 | otravi | http://www.dtguild.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2655 << I think someone dislikes blizzard |
| 08:13.33 | ckknight | some people don't know how to properly complain |
| 08:18.29 | otravi | yeh =\ |
| 08:31.50 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 08:31.53 | Codayus | He should chill out. |
| 08:31.59 | Codayus | He'll get an ulcer that way. |
| 08:35.10 | ckknight | lol, yea |
| 08:40.17 | Codayus | And on a completely unrelated note... |
| 08:40.21 | Codayus | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/ |
| 08:40.30 | Codayus | ^----- Disturbing as hell. oO |
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| 08:49.56 | ckknight_ | Well, FuBar 1.0 and all the plugins I wrote for it are up on ace's svn |
| 09:02.04 | Wobin_ | Codayus: Disturbing... but funny =P |
| 09:28.42 | Tekkub | huzzah! Fluff and blood! |
| 09:30.10 | ckknight_ | yea, that was pretty funny |
| 09:40.32 | ckknight_ | Robot Chicken is awesome |
| 09:42.45 | Tekkub | Simpsons finnaly did it |
| 09:43.32 | Tekkub | "I just need the following: A nail file, a gun with no bullets, some bullets and 3 of my MacGyver writers" - Richard Dean Anderson |
| 09:43.36 | Neronix`sleep | Whoa |
| 09:43.43 | Neronix`sleep | the VgCats guy updated ON TIME!? |
| 09:44.07 | ckknight_ | wasn't that last week, Tekkub? |
| 09:44.16 | Tekkub | I just watched it |
| 09:44.24 | Tekkub | homemade TiVo FTFW! |
| 09:44.53 | ckknight_ | torrent ftw. |
| 09:45.37 | Tekkub | I only torrent stuff that conflicts or is on channels we don't get... like showtime and the japaneese networks ^^ |
| 09:49.14 | Neronix | morning |
| 09:54.43 | Neronix | btw, how does getting SVN access work now? Can anyone go and commit or do you still need to get a username from clad? |
| 10:12.48 | Tekkub | you need a username, but the repo is (mostly) global write permissions |
| 10:13.10 | Neronix | ok, thanks |
| 10:13.21 | Tekkub | I think that Ace core is restricted writes, and any other paths that the author requests |
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| 10:20.59 | Elviso | anyone familiar w/AceHooks? |
| 10:24.40 | clad|sleep | very elviso |
| 10:24.40 | clad|sleep | whats up |
| 10:25.04 | clad|sleep | Neronix: Tekkub is correct.. if you didnt email me (i think you did) then email me =) |
| 10:25.35 | clad|sleep | I hate getting woken up by work.. for something I can't solve.. just frustrates everyone. |
| 10:28.37 | Neronix | I emailed you a couple of days ago |
| 10:28.45 | clad|sleep | yeah i know. |
| 10:29.27 | clad|sleep | its 6.30 in the morning, and i was sleeping 40 minutes ago |
| 10:29.31 | clad|sleep | :P |
| 10:29.40 | Neronix | I see, sorry |
| 10:29.40 | clad|sleep | and shoudl still be sleeping |
| 10:30.04 | clad|sleep | hahah j/k |
| 10:30.06 | clad|sleep | np |
| 10:47.02 | otravi | okey, I surrender for the moment. How can I create this table: http://pastebin.ca/49595 The SET and SET2 are from a var |
| 10:51.06 | Neronix | Tekkub: Are you the author of GFXToggle? |
| 10:51.39 | Elviso | clad|sleep: sorry, I had to go afk briefly |
| 10:51.50 | clad|sleep | Elviso: Sokay |
| 10:51.52 | clad|sleep | Shoot |
| 10:51.56 | clad|sleep | then i'm headed back to bed =) |
| 10:52.02 | Elviso | nononon :) |
| 10:52.07 | Elviso | you got a sec? |
| 10:52.40 | clad|sleep | yeah |
| 10:52.41 | clad|sleep | whats up |
| 10:52.49 | Elviso | I'm in the planning phase for a new addon, and was curious if AceHooks would be better suited than normal hooking |
| 10:52.52 | Neronix | Tekkub: Nvm, I'm stupid >.< |
| 10:53.02 | clad|sleep | otravi: |
| 10:53.23 | otravi | yes? |
| 10:53.36 | clad|sleep | otravi: Checks[SET] = {event="RA_MAINTANK"} Checks[SET2] = {event="RA_MAINTANK"} |
| 10:54.13 | Elviso | basically, my guild is requesting a 'guild ignore' addon.....to be complete, I'm going to need to hook about 5 or 6 events |
| 10:54.51 | Elviso | and basically when arg2 == "bad guild", throw-away that event |
| 10:55.04 | clad|sleep | ok |
| 10:55.06 | otravi | clad|sleep: not what I was looking for, but you did give me an idea :) |
| 10:56.05 | clad|sleep | lol ok otravi |
| 10:56.19 | clad|sleep | Elviso: Ok, what can I help with? |
| 10:56.48 | Elviso | do you think AceHooks would be better suited than normal hooking for that? |
| 10:57.59 | Elviso | I'm still pretty new to LUA/ACE/WoW API, but I can code moderately well.....I just don't know if AceHooks would be overkill, or if it's just what I need |
| 11:03.19 | clad|sleep | Well, is it an Ace addon to begin with? |
| 11:04.14 | Elviso | no |
| 11:04.33 | clad|sleep | Well, i'm partial.. but there are a lot of things that need to be taken into consideration when hooking |
| 11:04.35 | Elviso | I just ran across AceHooks while researching hooks...mentioned that it could be stand-alone, no? |
| 11:04.38 | clad|sleep | one of them is unhooking, and how its done. |
| 11:04.39 | clad|sleep | *nod* |
| 11:04.44 | clad|sleep | its a fully embedded lirary |
| 11:05.20 | Elviso | I would think the addon would be rarely, if ever, unhooked |
| 11:05.43 | clad|sleep | then you can probably get by without it-- but I'd still reccomend using AceHooks |
| 11:05.51 | clad|sleep | it makes the interface pretty clean to say the least |
| 11:06.23 | Elviso | ok then, I shall try :) |
| 11:07.05 | Elviso | thanks for your time |
| 11:07.35 | clad|sleep | no problem |
| 11:07.48 | clad|sleep | if onc eyou're comfortable with what you're doing.. we can work and move them into straight hooks |
| 11:07.55 | clad|sleep | but start by using something like acehooks. |
| 11:08.00 | clad|sleep | or seahooks, etc. |
| 11:08.09 | Elviso | ok, makes sense |
| 11:10.53 | otravi | clad|sleep: ty, you made me see the light :) |
| 11:11.10 | clad|sleep | otravi: Then my work here is done |
| 11:11.24 | clad|sleep | back to sleep |
| 11:11.25 | clad|sleep | for now |
| 11:11.38 | otravi | gl :) |
| 11:14.17 | Neronix | night clad |
| 11:17.10 | Mikma | otravi: if i'm not mistaken oRA modules have wrong .toc version |
| 11:17.28 | otravi | do they have a .toc version at all :o ? |
| 11:17.30 | otravi | I should fix that :p |
| 11:17.37 | Mikma | meheh |
| 11:17.45 | Mikma | well no wonder then haha |
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| 11:36.04 | Wobble | rofl at today's Penny Arcade |
| 11:36.09 | Wobble | Tonkatsu the pig =) |
| 11:36.20 | Wobble | I'm so going to tame a boar and name it thqat |
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| 12:22.27 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [MoonWolf]] by ChanServ |
| 12:23.21 | *** topic/#wowace by [MoonWolf] -> wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | Cair is awesome | Happy second Zombie Jesus day |
| 12:25.41 | Neronix | morning [MoonWolf] |
| 12:25.49 | Neronix | afternoon even |
| 12:25.54 | [MoonWolf] | yes |
| 12:25.57 | [MoonWolf] | same to yo |
| 12:37.57 | Mikma | zombie jesus day :) |
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| 12:39.54 | [MoonWolf] | tekkub coined that. |
| 12:45.56 | Slayman | the new idChat is not working anymore .... |
| 12:46.58 | otravi | mine still does :o |
| 12:48.13 | Slayman | the version from wowi ? |
| 12:48.32 | otravi | it was posted as a patch |
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| 12:49.09 | id` | Uh it does :P |
| 12:49.10 | id` | uh* |
| 12:49.37 | id` | Theres a patch - on wowi |
| 12:49.56 | id` | ill update it to 1.10 soon tho] |
| 12:52.57 | id` | Slayman: do you use the abbreviations with idChat? |
| 12:53.01 | id` | just curious :P |
| 12:53.29 | Slayman | no the mousewheel scrolling was/is disfunctional for me |
| 12:54.06 | id` | I'm using it here just fine.. how doe is not work? |
| 12:54.09 | id` | does* |
| 12:54.12 | Slayman | ok I'm stupid |
| 12:54.24 | Slayman | u defaulted it to off it appears |
| 12:57.16 | otravi | id`: maybe you should say something about that :) |
| 12:57.24 | Slayman | good idea |
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| 13:01.10 | Slayman | fu** those blizz ppl sending me to ashenvale for a stonetalon mountain quest |
| 13:03.16 | id` | Slayman: everything that can be on whould be off by default |
| 13:03.17 | id` | imo |
| 13:03.22 | id` | should* |
| 13:03.53 | Slayman | yeah but while upgrading teh function goes from on to off which is not a good practice at all |
| 13:05.26 | otravi | [^_^] has come online. :< |
| 13:05.48 | [MoonWolf] | irc names gone bad. |
| 13:06.00 | otravi | that was actually a copy paste from wow |
| 13:06.10 | [MoonWolf] | GM report now. |
| 13:06.15 | Mikma | ty |
| 13:06.39 | otravi | was that bug fixed in 1.10.1 btw? |
| 13:06.48 | otravi | EU still uses 1.10 :o |
| 13:30.05 | dsfsdf | you can C&P inside WoW ? |
| 13:30.06 | dsfsdf | :O |
| 13:32.12 | otravi | C&P :O ? |
| 13:32.27 | otravi | oh, copy/paste :p |
| 13:32.56 | otravi | copy paste from my chatlog is more correct :) |
| 13:48.10 | Neronix | morning cladhaire |
| 13:49.37 | cladhaire | morning =) |
| 13:49.50 | otravi | hello |
| 13:51.10 | dsfsdf | =] |
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| 14:01.41 | Neronix | cladhaire: you busy right now? |
| 14:04.33 | cladhaire | I'm here and there |
| 14:04.34 | cladhaire | \whats up? |
| 14:05.32 | Neronix | Any idea when I'll have SVN access? |
| 14:05.37 | Neronix | sorry if I'm being a pest about it |
| 14:11.13 | cladhaire | your'e not |
| 14:11.15 | cladhaire | gimme two seconds. |
| 14:13.04 | cladhaire | go to http://svn.wowace.com/passwd.php |
| 14:13.08 | cladhaire | neronix:neronix |
| 14:13.15 | Neronix | Thanks |
| 14:13.16 | cladhaire | and change the password to something new |
| 14:13.18 | cladhaire | and you're all set |
| 14:14.00 | Neronix | Thanks a lot :) |
| 14:14.07 | cladhaire | np |
| 14:15.36 | Tain | I'm logging in and changing your password on you ! |
| 14:15.43 | Neronix | You're too slow :P |
| 14:15.54 | Tain | I've often heard that. |
| 14:16.27 | [MoonWolf] | First person to try that on someone else that i find out about wont be coming to the forums or the irc for a LOOOOOOOONG time. |
| 14:17.12 | otravi | how will they be able to do that on someone? |
| 14:17.21 | otravi | when cladhaire usually sends a mail with user/pass |
| 14:17.45 | Tain | They won't. |
| 14:17.45 | [MoonWolf] | I dont care about the how. |
| 14:17.51 | Tain | Moon's just being overdramatic. |
| 14:17.59 | cladhaire | its always the same username/password |
| 14:18.00 | cladhaire | i'm bored =) |
| 14:18.14 | [MoonWolf] | me, i would never. |
| 14:19.16 | [MoonWolf] | New alliance race is krokolisks btw. |
| 14:19.46 | [MoonWolf] | Racial ability is tendon rip. |
| 14:19.53 | Tain | I'm coco for crocolisks! |
| 14:22.58 | [MoonWolf] | cladhaire, you are now the happy owner of a new sticky! |
| 14:23.38 | cladhaire | *gasp* |
| 14:23.39 | cladhaire | so exciting |
| 14:24.53 | hC|school | http://svn.wowace.com/log.php?repname=Ace+SVN&path=%2Ftrunk%2FGloryLib%2FGloryLib.lua&rev=0&sc=0&isdir=0 |
| 14:25.03 | hC|school | what's up w/ that, clad? |
| 14:25.20 | hC|school | are we ever going to get age again? |
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| 14:28.29 | cladhaire | hC|school: Its a time-sync issue between the server and client |
| 14:28.36 | cladhaire | hC|school: Those ages show up.. when they're in the past =) |
| 14:28.46 | hC|school | those were last night |
| 14:28.55 | hC|school | it looks like the log message field got borked |
| 14:28.58 | Tain | In a few years you won't want to think about age anymore. |
| 14:29.11 | hC|school | it overlaps the age field |
| 14:29.15 | [MoonWolf] | HEHE |
| 14:29.23 | hC|school | lol Tain |
| 14:29.27 | hC|school | good point |
| 14:29.36 | cladhaire | hC|school: NO, the age just isn't there |
| 14:29.39 | hC|school | ah |
| 14:29.40 | cladhaire | so the border isn't drawn |
| 14:30.03 | hC|school | heh |
| 14:30.06 | hC|school | yea, ok i see now |
| 14:30.09 | hC|school | those are negative time =x |
| 14:30.19 | hC|school | cuz the age of the 3rd one is 16m |
| 14:30.22 | hC|school | and that was like 5h ago |
| 14:30.32 | cladhaire | =) |
| 14:31.08 | hC|school | rock on |
| 14:31.45 | hC|school | Ace: so committed to up-to-date addons, we travel to the future to write our code |
| 14:32.30 | hC|school | k off to school; seeyas in a few hours |
| 14:32.35 | hC|school | SVN looking great, cladhaire |
| 14:32.40 | cladhaire | hope so =) |
| 14:32.41 | cladhaire | thanks. |
| 14:32.43 | [MoonWolf] | Ace: Be happy we dont actually have a slogan. |
| 14:32.55 | hC|school | boss and I were doign some really great work last night |
| 14:33.10 | hC|school | well, maybe not the work itself |
| 14:33.22 | hC|school | but it was very smooth to collaborate =) |
| 14:33.58 | cladhaire | good to hear! |
| 14:34.07 | cladhaire | 'is FuBAr 1.0 yet? |
| 14:39.56 | Neronix | 1.0's on the SVN |
| 14:40.02 | Neronix | will be on WoWI tomorrow |
| 14:40.05 | Neronix | or so I heard |
| 14:42.23 | cladhaire | cool |
| 14:42.30 | cladhaire | my UI is in a deperate need for updating. |
| 14:43.40 | id` | hC = ? |
| 14:43.48 | id` | oh chip |
| 14:43.53 | id` | =P |
| 14:44.18 | [MoonWolf] | Beetje langzaam vandaag ? |
| 14:44.31 | id` | juh :p |
| 14:44.41 | Tain | Yeah maybe it's time to bring back that Ace slogan suggestion thread. |
| 14:45.22 | [MoonWolf] | Or maybe not. |
| 14:45.50 | Tain | Ok, who stole MoonWolf's humor module? |
| 14:46.05 | [MoonWolf] | alcohol did |
| 14:46.15 | Tain | A worthy adversary, alcohol! |
| 14:46.25 | Tain | She did me in last night to be sure. |
| 14:47.17 | id` | :P |
| 14:47.36 | Tain | Captain Jack will get you by tonight. |
| 14:47.37 | [MoonWolf] | You and me both. |
| 15:05.21 | Wobin_ | "Ace: Y'know... Stuff." |
| 15:06.20 | Tain | Ace: It really whips the Zheva's ass. |
| 15:08.02 | Wobin_ | heh |
| 15:16.18 | [MoonWolf] | Ace: From beneath you it devours! |
| 15:18.33 | Tain | Ace: We'll swallow your soul! |
| 15:20.56 | Neronix | can you put exclamation marks in function names? |
| 15:21.18 | [MoonWolf] | Ace: ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn |
| 15:21.42 | Neronix | I want to make AHProtectWin_OhNoes!AuctioneersComingToEatMe!() :P |
| 15:23.15 | Tain | heh I don't know Neronix, I've never had the inclination to try. |
| 15:23.47 | Neronix | Acutally, I'll try it on the lua console |
| 15:24.23 | Neronix | Jagobah: can't do it >.> |
| 15:24.33 | Neronix | wtf? |
| 15:24.41 | Neronix | meant to say bah |
| 15:24.49 | Tain | haha |
| 15:25.57 | [MoonWolf] | Ace: N'Gasta! Kvata! Kvakis! |
| 15:26.20 | Tain | Ace: Veni! Vidi! Aci! |
| 15:26.39 | [MoonWolf] | People are horribly not getting my references. |
| 15:38.23 | otravi | Tain: isn't that a Julius Caesar quote? |
| 15:39.29 | Tain | We came, we saw, we Ace'd. |
| 15:40.58 | otravi | wtb people to test the SVN version of oRA :o |
| 15:43.30 | cladhaire | lol |
| 15:49.03 | id` | Went back to usinf Duscord Unit Frames |
| 15:49.13 | id` | only AddOn that can really do what i want :< |
| 15:49.15 | id` | http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1125/wowscrnshot0417061743520po.jpg |
| 15:49.23 | id` | maybe ill make it some time without DUF xD |
| 15:49.57 | Tain | Lies. |
| 15:50.04 | Mikma | id`: ARGH discord :P |
| 15:50.55 | Neronix | id`: Perl Classic Unit Frames can do what you want |
| 15:50.59 | otravi | id`: take a look at FryGuy AceUnitFames :p |
| 15:51.01 | Neronix | and without the lagness |
| 15:51.21 | id` | nope, i want it exactly like this |
| 15:51.24 | id` | :E |
| 15:51.31 | otravi | id`: LOOK AT IT! |
| 15:51.36 | otravi | *shakesfist* |
| 15:51.41 | Neronix | LOOK AT PERL TOO |
| 15:51.47 | Neronix | *waves katana* |
| 15:51.50 | otravi | haha |
| 15:51.52 | Mikma | chop chop |
| 15:52.52 | id` | otravi: look at what? yeh sexy init? |
| 15:53.04 | Tain | DUF is one of the most resource intensive, you know. |
| 15:53.58 | [MoonWolf] | why did THAT happen... |
| 15:54.03 | Neronix | Yay, another foobar user! |
| 15:54.32 | otravi | id`: http://plixx.org/?41 << you need AceUnitFrames also |
| 15:54.35 | id` | Tain: cource i know |
| 15:56.21 | otravi | np: Apoptygma Berzerk - You Keep Me From Breaking Apart (According To Phillip Remix) [4:09] |
| 15:58.37 | id` | otravi: got a screenshot? :> |
| 15:58.43 | otravi | id`: nope :D |
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| 16:02.21 | id` | :P |
| 16:04.14 | [MoonWolf] | "I have awoken from the past |
| 16:04.14 | [MoonWolf] | Glenfully with the shadows over England's bitter skies |
| 16:04.14 | [MoonWolf] | I prize mine wounds in a soil sweated drink |
| 16:04.14 | [MoonWolf] | Remember me as king when I cradle hell to stars |
| 16:04.14 | [MoonWolf] | Like lovers in my arms, nestled vipers to my breast |
| 16:04.15 | [MoonWolf] | Venom forces workthius arts of devil's and priestess |
| 16:04.17 | [MoonWolf] | Thus I shall rule anew through the sinews of a song |
| 16:04.19 | [MoonWolf] | Played upon a storm |
| 16:04.21 | [MoonWolf] | By the ghosts of Avalon |
| 16:04.23 | [MoonWolf] | And all in league will bow to me, from death they shall ascend |
| 16:04.25 | [MoonWolf] | To whisper weals of war to stir the dark o nce in men |
| 16:04.27 | [MoonWolf] | The principle black metal masterplan." |
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| 16:05.54 | id` | in other words "omg die" |
| 16:06.11 | [MoonWolf] | First person to tell me the band wins, nothing! |
| 16:06.47 | [MoonWolf] | Cradle of Filth ofcourse! first song i ever heard of them. |
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| 16:28.01 | Neronix | morning Tem |
| 16:28.44 | Tem | morning |
| 16:32.10 | cladhaire | morning Tem |
| 16:34.05 | Ratbert_CP | mumble*fitz*yawn*scratch... |
| 16:34.21 | Neronix | hmm |
| 16:34.32 | Neronix | getting an error when I try to tag |
| 16:35.01 | Ratbert_CP | It's the new zero-tolerance rules for vandalism... |
| 16:36.41 | Neronix | "PROPFIND request failed on '/root/!svn/bc/300/tags/AHProtectWin" |
| 16:37.14 | Neronix | "'/root/!svn/bc/300/tags/AHProtectWin' path not found" |
| 16:40.08 | Neronix | any ideas? |
| 16:40.19 | cladhaire | what specifically are you doing/trying to do? |
| 16:41.02 | Neronix | copy /root/trunk/AHProtectWin to /root/tags/AHProtectWin/0.9 |
| 16:41.18 | cladhaire | does /root/tags/AHProtectWin exist? |
| 16:41.25 | cladhaire | it doesn't create directory structure for you |
| 16:41.28 | cladhaire | mkdir that first |
| 16:42.21 | Neronix | I see, thanks |
| 16:43.02 | Tem | Cairenn: aaah your client changed your nick |
| 16:43.13 | Tem | ~seen Cairenn |
| 16:43.17 | purl | cairenn is currently on #wowi-lounge (7h 58m 50s) #wowace (7h 58m 50s). Has said a total of 269 messages. Is idling for 9h 36m 37s, last said: 'I hope so :p'. |
| 16:43.29 | Tem | yep |
| 16:44.30 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:48.31 | Tem | cladhaire: |
| 16:48.41 | Tem | did you see the goodies she and I fixed up last night? |
| 16:49.10 | cladhaire | No.. what happened? |
| 16:49.12 | Tem | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=29&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate |
| 16:49.42 | cladhaire | what am i looking at in particular? |
| 16:49.54 | Tem | the subcats under the ace section |
| 16:50.07 | cladhaire | oh sweet |
| 16:50.24 | cladhaire | i kinda dont prefer the category things.. but i know many people do |
| 16:50.39 | Tem | anyone can upload to any of the sections so non FA people can now put their addons in the Ace section |
| 16:50.47 | Tem | but only Fa can upload to Core |
| 16:51.13 | cladhaire | nice. |
| 16:51.14 | cladhaire | sweet |
| 16:51.21 | Tem | what's your beef with subcats? |
| 16:51.30 | Tem | they are ombwtfbbqawesome |
| 16:51.59 | Tem | and now I'm one step closer to being able to lock the "AceAddon Collection" forum |
| 16:54.10 | cladhaire | haha |
| 16:54.10 | cladhaire | well, i like seeing everything all in one root. |
| 16:54.11 | Cairenn | yo |
| 16:54.11 | cladhaire | in case i see something i like.. that's how i find lots of things |
| 16:54.11 | cladhaire | but thats just me =) |
| 16:54.11 | cladhaire | HEyas Cairenn =) |
| 16:54.12 | Cairenn | hey |
| 16:54.33 | Cairenn | I can see your point, clad, but many (most?) people prefer sub-cats, keeps things tidier |
| 16:55.02 | Tem | yeah cladhaire I'm afriad you're outnumbered |
| 16:55.07 | Tem | like... 19287398175234 to 1 |
| 16:55.15 | Tem | =P |
| 16:55.25 | Tain | I'm on cladhaire's side. |
| 16:55.28 | Cairenn | 73.4% of all stats are made up on the spot |
| 16:55.35 | Tem | :) |
| 16:55.43 | Tain | sub-cats often just dilute things down and don't get used. |
| 16:56.12 | cladhaire | Cairenn: No i'm cool with it =) |
| 16:56.15 | Tem | Tain: when you only have around 20-30 things to sift though I completely agree |
| 16:56.16 | cladhaire | Just saying :P |
| 16:56.27 | Tem | but we have over a hundred |
| 16:56.28 | Cairenn | well then, I'll just put everything back in one lump, but kiss bye bye to others being able to upload to the Ace section :p |
| 16:56.33 | Tain | Of course I don't even know what sub-cats of what we're referring to here. |
| 16:56.45 | Tem | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=29&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate |
| 16:56.56 | Tem | follow the yellow brick road! |
| 16:57.02 | Tem | er, follow that link |
| 16:57.04 | Tain | I just didn't want to see cladhaire get outnumbered so much. :) |
| 16:57.32 | cladhaire | heheh |
| 16:57.32 | Tem | now we can have all ace addons in the section |
| 16:57.40 | Tem | under the appropriate category |
| 16:57.48 | cladhaire | Cairenn: I like it the way it is, it makes sense. |
| 16:57.49 | cladhaire | =) |
| 16:57.59 | Tain | Yeah that's good. |
| 16:58.02 | Tem | and as a bonus, you might notice that the new cats match the cat list for Ace2 |
| 16:58.13 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 16:58.17 | Tem | (with a few things missing for now because empty cats are a bad thing) |
| 16:59.05 | Tain | heh yeah |
| 17:00.12 | Cairenn | empty cats tend to yowl a lot |
| 17:00.39 | Tem | so, if you want to put something in a subcat thats missing, see if there are at least 2 other addons that would go in the same cat and ask to have it made |
| 17:00.52 | Tem | if not, put it in Misc or Interface Enh |
| 17:01.05 | Tem | those are the 2 catch all categories |
| 17:01.25 | ckknight_ | hey all |
| 17:01.29 | Cairenn | hey ckknight_ |
| 17:01.41 | Tem | ckknight_: did you release 1.0 yet? |
| 17:02.08 | ckknight_ | I committed it, it's not released to WoWI, though |
| 17:03.10 | Tem | get moving lazy |
| 17:03.20 | ckknight_ | wtf? |
| 17:03.20 | Cairenn | he isn't releasing till tomorrow |
| 17:03.32 | Cairenn | since he told authors they have a week :p |
| 17:04.37 | Neronix | ckknight_: I get an error when FuBar loads |
| 17:05.05 | Neronix | apparently BabbleLib is missing or something |
| 17:05.23 | Neronix | brb, gonna go copy/paste the error |
| 17:05.24 | Cairenn | Neronix: |
| 17:05.35 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4809 |
| 17:05.46 | Neronix | I thought it was embedded |
| 17:06.04 | Cairenn | so did I, but if you don't have it installed, it errors |
| 17:06.07 | Cairenn | I had the same problem |
| 17:06.18 | Neronix | I see |
| 17:06.27 | Eraphine|Lab | were you out of the game when you installed the addon? |
| 17:06.41 | Neronix | game wasn't running |
| 17:07.28 | Eraphine|Lab | well... embededd libraries aren't optional |
| 17:07.42 | Eraphine|Lab | does babblelib show up in the .toc? |
| 17:07.56 | Neronix | yeah |
| 17:08.03 | Neronix | but babblelib.lua isn't in the FuBar folder |
| 17:09.58 | Neronix | I didn't know that babblelib wasn't included anymore, sorry |
| 17:10.04 | Eraphine|Lab | oh it should be. |
| 17:10.43 | Neronix | I checked out from the SVN earlier today |
| 17:10.57 | Eraphine|Lab | svn != stable |
| 17:11.39 | Neronix | I see |
| 17:12.16 | Neronix | I thought stuff on the SVN would have all the embedded libs |
| 17:12.50 | Eraphine|Lab | which svn? |
| 17:13.02 | ckknight_ | BabbleLib has its own folder in the svn |
| 17:13.19 | ckknight_ | I didn't put it up there |
| 17:13.29 | ckknight_ | seems odd to me to maintain it in multiple places |
| 17:13.44 | Neronix | I understand now |
| 17:13.47 | Neronix | sorry for the false alarm |
| 17:14.05 | ckknight_ | that is, unless I find a very easy way to do it |
| 17:14.25 | Eraphine|Lab | shrug - stick a stub in for the embedded libs? |
| 17:15.22 | Cairenn | okay guys, big news: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=20865#post20865 |
| 17:16.07 | ckknight_ | Eraphine|Lab, what do you mean by stub? |
| 17:16.58 | Neronix | ckknight_: best idea I have are symlinks |
| 17:17.26 | Neronix | which would only work under windows if you're using the cygwin command line svn client to commit |
| 17:18.00 | Eraphine|Lab | ckknight_ I don't know that it can actually be done |
| 17:18.54 | Kaelten | hey guys |
| 17:19.02 | Neronix | morning Kaelten |
| 17:19.13 | Eraphine|Lab | what is the correct address to put in for the svn repository if I'm using toirtoise svn? |
| 17:19.17 | [MoonWolf] | made a post |
| 17:19.37 | Kaelten | eraphine http://svn.wowace.com/root/ |
| 17:19.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 17:19.49 | ckknight_ | Eraphine|Lab, it can be done with svn:externals, but you can't do files, you have to do directories |
| 17:19.58 | Eraphine|Lab | thank you kaelten |
| 17:20.24 | ckknight_ | which I might do eventually |
| 17:20.46 | Eraphine|Lab | ah I see.. each embedded lib in a subdirectory |
| 17:20.51 | cladhaire | ckknight_: I still disagree with you on this one.. but that's just me =) |
| 17:21.02 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 17:21.28 | ckknight_ | on what one? |
| 17:21.40 | cladhaire | I agree you should make changes and log changes in the main embed directory |
| 17:21.54 | ckknight_ | okay |
| 17:21.56 | cladhaire | but you should also copy the new file into the addons that use it, and log that you updated the library |
| 17:22.06 | ckknight_ | but it's such a pain |
| 17:22.12 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 17:22.14 | cladhaire | its your call |
| 17:22.17 | Eraphine|Lab | question: |
| 17:22.25 | cladhaire | but it doesn't make sense to me to have the download available from svn.. NOT work |
| 17:22.34 | Eraphine|Lab | Embedded libraries are not optional, why not make them req dependencies? |
| 17:22.37 | Eraphine|Lab | and just split up the addon? |
| 17:22.46 | ckknight_ | Eraphine|Lab, cause then they're not embedded. |
| 17:22.55 | ckknight_ | + |
| 17:23.06 | cladhaire | =_ |
| 17:23.08 | cladhaire | =) |
| 17:23.11 | ckknight_ | whoops |
| 17:23.25 | ckknight_ | by having them as OptionalDeps, you can use them as normal addons |
| 17:23.41 | ckknight_ | i.e. if you have an updated version, you can put it there |
| 17:23.41 | Eraphine|Lab | what's the practical difference? |
| 17:23.53 | cladhaire | one requires the user to download two addons |
| 17:23.56 | Eraphine|Lab | the embedded libraries all use the most recent |
| 17:24.54 | Eraphine|Lab | that's true, but in the case of fubar, if the library doesn't appear in the svn directory, fubar fails |
| 17:25.02 | Eraphine|Lab | if the user doesn't have the library already |
| 17:25.12 | Eraphine|Lab | so, they'd have to download 2 "things" anyway. |
| 17:25.23 | cladhaire | Eraphine|Lab: Only if they get it from the SVN, not wowi.. its in wowi. |
| 17:25.24 | Eraphine|Lab | I supoose the SVN doesn't need to be plug and play like that. |
| 17:25.29 | Eraphine|Lab | nod |
| 17:25.30 | Elviso | question: is there an event to signify when spell's cooldown is up? I tried 2 but neither seemed to work :\ |
| 17:25.32 | cladhaire | Eraphine|Lab: Hence my preference to INCLUDE it in the svn |
| 17:25.43 | Neronix | Idea!: Make a shellscript/batch file to use when committing FuBar or whatever other mod that uses embedded libs |
| 17:26.03 | Eraphine|Lab | hrm.... |
| 17:26.28 | Eraphine|Lab | cladhaire do you remember a while back when Tem mentioned that every separate .lua file takes up a certain about of memory? |
| 17:26.29 | Neronix | simple as cp C:/path/to/embedded lib/libmoo.lua /path/to/Fubar/libmoo.lua |
| 17:26.45 | Neronix | and other lines for other embedded libs |
| 17:26.59 | cladhaire | Eraphine|Lab: There was some research done, but nothing conclusive from what I could see. |
| 17:27.04 | Eraphine|Lab | ok |
| 17:27.05 | cladhaire | I remember the discussino tho |
| 17:27.16 | Eraphine|Lab | I forget if the extra space was reclaimed at GC. |
| 17:27.40 | Tem | Eraphine|Lab: that wasn't me |
| 17:27.50 | Tem | I never believed that |
| 17:27.53 | Eraphine|Lab | I'm just wondering... if having all these copies of the libraries has an impact on UI mem space, although it shouldn't |
| 17:27.55 | Tem | though I have heard it |
| 17:27.57 | Eraphine|Lab | maybe it was kergoth. |
| 17:28.09 | Eraphine|Lab | I remember someone mentioning to Rowne when we moduralized Visor |
| 17:29.01 | Tain | No, it ended up not being true. |
| 17:29.15 | Eraphine|Lab | Cool. |
| 17:30.07 | Eraphine|Lab | So really, having the information in functions spread out in many copies has no detrimental effect. |
| 17:30.32 | ckknight_ | at the very top of my libs, I check to see if it's obselete, and if so, not load the rest of the file |
| 17:30.43 | Eraphine|Lab | i.e. if I were running 5 addons with the same embedded library, it would be the same as running 5 addons with one copy |
| 17:31.06 | Tem | cladhaire: |
| 17:31.10 | Eraphine|Lab | i mean 5 copies vs 1 copy of an embedded library results in no ui imapct |
| 17:31.16 | Tem | do the old repos still exist? |
| 17:31.22 | Tem | it let me commit to the wrong path |
| 17:32.02 | Kaelten | I got to run guys, just on lucnh break |
| 17:32.53 | cladhaire | Tem: Yes they all exist. |
| 17:32.57 | cladhaire | Tem: I can break that if you'd like =) |
| 17:33.03 | Tem | no, it's fine |
| 17:33.13 | Tem | just gimme the new path to Catalyst |
| 17:33.22 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Catalyst |
| 17:38.37 | Eraphine|Lab | btw, the directory for warmup |
| 17:38.44 | Eraphine|Lab | if installed, should be the same as the .toc file in warmup right? |
| 17:40.05 | *** join/#wowace Sokurai (i=omgomg@towers151-148.sfsu.edu) |
| 17:42.01 | Neronix | yeah |
| 17:42.06 | Neronix | Warmup needs to load first |
| 17:42.38 | Eraphine|Lab | but there was post in the ui forums suggesting that addons get loaded in the order of the directory creation. |
| 17:42.52 | Eraphine|Lab | for windows xp |
| 17:43.23 | cladhaire | addons get loaded in the operating systems default sort order |
| 17:43.24 | Neronix | I'm very sure they're loaded in alphabetical order |
| 17:43.31 | cladhaire | which isnt the same across versions/configuratinos of windows XP |
| 17:43.40 | cladhaire | tupically its alphabetrically, but often its the creation time. |
| 17:43.40 | Eraphine|Lab | ah HA |
| 17:43.48 | otravi | cladhaire: looks like they load after they are needed on *nix |
| 17:44.31 | Eraphine|Lab | cladhaire do I assume correctly that Warmup's directory cannot be called !!Warmup in the svn? |
| 17:44.55 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 17:44.56 | cladhaire | dunno |
| 17:44.59 | cladhaire | never messed with it. |
| 17:46.24 | Wobin_ | Robes of the Exalted |
| 17:46.28 | Wobin_ | huzzzah |
| 17:46.33 | Wobin_ | P |
| 17:46.41 | Wobin_ | S Boo to mages who tank with their faces |
| 17:47.51 | Mikma | roflcopter, Taeran "healed" himself from 60% to 100% ;) |
| 17:48.02 | *** join/#wowace kergoth` (n=14899232@65.98.40.42) |
| 17:48.50 | otravi | err, he did? |
| 17:51.30 | Tem | oh lol! |
| 17:51.44 | Tem | Catalyst in 220 people's favorites |
| 17:52.13 | [MoonWolf] | Bastard, i only have 120 |
| 17:52.18 | Tem | that means it's just 16 favorites short of being the the "top favorites" list |
| 17:52.41 | Wobin_ | rofl |
| 17:52.46 | Wobin_ | I'll add it to mine |
| 17:54.09 | ckknight_ | I'll put it to mine |
| 17:54.11 | Tem | it ammuses/annoys me that something I wrote in less than 10 minutes is getting so much attention |
| 17:54.28 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 17:54.30 | Wobin_ | wait til 1.11 |
| 17:54.31 | [MoonWolf] | If there were addon awards, catalyst would win best newcommer easy. |
| 17:54.37 | Wobin_ | "Why haven't you updated?!" |
| 17:54.38 | Tem | lol |
| 17:54.44 | Wobin_ | "Is this 1.11 compatable?!" |
| 17:54.54 | Tem | once the test real comes out, I'm going to get the build |
| 17:55.04 | Mikma | the best would be "this doesn't work in 1.11" |
| 17:55.08 | cladhaire | added to favorites |
| 17:55.20 | Tain | Damnit! When I moved my Klipsch subwoofer stopped working. |
| 17:55.37 | *** join/#wowace kergoth` (n=14899232@65.98.40.42) |
| 17:55.39 | [MoonWolf] | check cablse |
| 17:55.43 | Tem | and I'm going to have catalyst refuse to enable itself beyond a certain build number |
| 17:56.00 | [MoonWolf] | you can check the build number in game ? |
| 17:56.04 | Wobin_ | added to favourites =P |
| 17:56.05 | Tem | yeah |
| 17:56.10 | cladhaire | Heyas kergoth |
| 17:56.10 | Tem | released around 1.9 |
| 17:56.13 | kergoth` | hey |
| 17:56.38 | cladhaire | Tem: But you're going to knock ItemRack off |
| 17:56.41 | kergoth` | i tried to finish my latest architectural change to the object model yesterday and was confounded and defeated completely by my own code :P |
| 17:56.56 | Tem | cladhaire: such is the price of making a fool of users |
| 17:57.05 | cladhaire | =) |
| 17:58.20 | Wobin_ | Nah, just say 'optimised for 1.11' it loads so fast, you won't notice |
| 17:58.41 | Mikma | funny, itemsync doesn't show legendary items anymore |
| 17:58.48 | Tain | I'm going to have to guy new speakers. |
| 17:59.55 | Tem | Mikma: that might be because ItemSync isn't as good as KCI |
| 18:00.09 | kergoth` | http://dresdendolls.com/downloads_n_lyrics/lyrics/badhabit.htm |
| 18:03.15 | cladhaire | Tem: I just signed into gchat.. and got you a few more favorites |
| 18:03.21 | cladhaire | there were RAVING about catalyst when i arrived. |
| 18:03.27 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 18:03.29 | Tem | haha |
| 18:03.52 | Tem | some bastard in my guild linked nFLT on our guild forums |
| 18:04.00 | Tem | I had to verbally rape them |
| 18:04.08 | [MoonWolf] | how much difference does it make on a clean UI with only ace and catalyst ? |
| 18:04.25 | cladhaire | not sure tbh |
| 18:04.51 | Tem | me either |
| 18:04.53 | Tem | never tried |
| 18:05.33 | Wobin_ | I'm too dependant on my addons =) |
| 18:06.06 | Mikma | Tem: is KCI really that good? |
| 18:06.20 | Tem | Mikma: KCI is the god of Item db addons |
| 18:06.58 | Mikma | ok i'll take your word for it and download it. too bad i'll lose my itemsync database once again :P |
| 18:07.38 | Tem | KCI comes with a master db |
| 18:07.41 | [MoonWolf] | you can import a pretty big default db |
| 18:08.33 | Tem | someone needs to write a spider for Alla that encodes items into KCI's format |
| 18:08.35 | Mikma | just one more question. can i still look the items the server hasn't seen after restart? itemsync had a habit of kicking out from game when mouseovered that kind of item in list |
| 18:08.53 | Tem | KCI won't show you items that might do that |
| 18:09.13 | Mikma | allaspider! :D |
| 18:09.57 | Tem | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4040 |
| 18:10.14 | Tem | cladhaire: if you wanna hack Catalyst to be Ace-Optional, now is the time :) |
| 18:10.49 | cladhaire | Tem: Bah.. ok |
| 18:11.32 | Tem | did you guys get an email from wowace? |
| 18:11.44 | ckknight_ | yea |
| 18:11.52 | cladhaire | yep |
| 18:11.52 | Tem | k |
| 18:11.57 | Tem | just making sure it went out |
| 18:12.11 | Tem | that's possibly the coolest feature of SMF |
| 18:14.25 | [MoonWolf] | spammer |
| 18:16.16 | Mikma | Tem: yes i did |
| 18:16.30 | Tem | [MoonWolf]: hah |
| 18:20.25 | cladhaire | Tem: Testing the change out now. |
| 18:20.25 | Tem | kewl |
| 18:21.28 | Tem | commit a branch. I need to learn how to use merge |
| 18:21.38 | cladhaire | grr |
| 18:21.38 | cladhaire | ok |
| 18:22.16 | cladhaire | it didn't kick in.. lemme look harder |
| 18:24.26 | cladhaire | not sure what just happened |
| 18:24.27 | cladhaire | lol |
| 18:25.26 | Tain | Try again, try harder! |
| 18:26.09 | Tem | commit your code so I can see it |
| 18:26.26 | cladhaire | its in the branches |
| 18:26.28 | cladhaire | but not working yet =) |
| 18:26.49 | Tem | that's cool, I just wanna help you figure it out |
| 18:27.02 | cladhaire | found my error |
| 18:27.16 | Tem | is there a reason that browsing the svn is slow as balls now? |
| 18:27.20 | cladhaire | was using self when i couldn't. |
| 18:27.29 | Eraphine|Lab | Velodyne ftw |
| 18:27.29 | Wobin_ | Tem: Can you also move Armchair Alchemist? |
| 18:27.32 | cladhaire | it hasn't been slow as balls for me at all |
| 18:27.39 | cladhaire | its been faster tha opensvn |
| 18:27.45 | cladhaire | but it does slow down the more complex the repo gets |
| 18:28.23 | Tem | if AceAddon and false ? |
| 18:28.32 | Tem | what's the point of the "and false" |
| 18:28.37 | Wobin_ | (And by move I mean shift it into the ace category for inventory) |
| 18:28.43 | Wobin_ | (on wowi) |
| 18:28.55 | Wobin_ | Reality check? =) |
| 18:29.24 | Wobin_ | If "Laws of Physic Apply" then =P |
| 18:29.33 | Tem | Wobin_: yeah. Cair and I haven't started moving stuff yet |
| 18:29.45 | cladhaire | Tem: to force the non-ace load at the moment =) |
| 18:29.45 | Wobin_ | Well someone has =) |
| 18:29.53 | Cairenn | gimme 5 minutes to catch my breath |
| 18:30.07 | Cairenn | from running errands |
| 18:30.10 | Wobin_ | It's all that smoking, see? =) |
| 18:30.11 | Cairenn | then I can start moving |
| 18:30.12 | Wobin_ | tc tch |
| 18:30.22 | Cairenn | Wobin_, dear, sweet Wobin_ ... fuck you |
| 18:30.26 | Wobin_ | hehe =) |
| 18:30.28 | [MoonWolf] | hehe |
| 18:30.29 | [MoonWolf] | burn |
| 18:30.34 | Tem | haha |
| 18:30.39 | Wobin_ | She says it so nicely too =) |
| 18:30.53 | Tem | cladhaire: I still don't understand the point of "AceAddon and false" |
| 18:31.08 | ckknight_ | it prevents a piece of code from being run, tem |
| 18:31.15 | Tem | which? |
| 18:31.20 | cladhaire | Tem: I don't want teh Ace section loading =0 |
| 18:31.26 | cladhaire | It stops it from loading |
| 18:31.32 | cladhaire | i"m not removing Ace from my test environment |
| 18:31.32 | Tem | it won't if AceAddon doesn't exist |
| 18:31.34 | Wobin_ | oh. a temporary stop sort of thing? |
| 18:31.39 | Tem | oooh |
| 18:31.41 | cladhaire | ... |
| 18:31.43 | Tem | I'm retarded |
| 18:31.52 | Cairenn | hence your name |
| 18:32.05 | Tem | yeah, be gentle |
| 18:32.08 | Tem | I'm a tard |
| 18:32.31 | ckknight_ | ~comfort Tem |
| 18:32.32 | purl | There, there, Tem. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 18:33.15 | Mikma | :D |
| 18:33.18 | Mikma | *awww* |
| 18:34.55 | ag` | Hm, how do I set the scale of a font? |
| 18:34.56 | cladhaire | wow.. taht code was HORRIBLE |
| 18:35.48 | Tem | ? |
| 18:36.13 | cladhaire | my code |
| 18:36.16 | ckknight_ | ag`, you mean font size? |
| 18:36.17 | cladhaire | it was.. utterly retarded |
| 18:36.35 | Tain | I'm sorry clad I'll try harder |
| 18:38.41 | ag` | ckknight_, no... I found out that if you set a font size, the font might look garbled, but if you the scale the frame that contains the font, it will look normal o_O |
| 18:39.01 | ckknight_ | hasn't happened to me... |
| 18:41.54 | ckknight | the revision numbers on svn.wowace.com are rising pretty fast |
| 18:41.56 | hC|school | boss |
| 18:42.01 | ckknight | hey dude |
| 18:42.02 | Eraphine|Lab | tem blue on grey = hard on the eyes |
| 18:42.13 | Tem | Finder Reminder? |
| 18:42.21 | hC|school | you switched SetMapToCurrentZone() to be in the 'if GetMapLandmarks() > 0' |
| 18:42.25 | Eraphine|Lab | your also of note: comment in catalyst |
| 18:42.33 | Tem | oh |
| 18:42.38 | Tem | yeah, tough crap |
| 18:42.40 | ckknight | hC|school, ooh |
| 18:42.44 | ckknight | would that matter? |
| 18:42.46 | hC|school | but GetMapLandmarks doesn't give the right value until it's been set to current zone |
| 18:42.47 | ckknight | wait |
| 18:42.48 | ckknight | yes it would |
| 18:42.49 | ckknight | lol |
| 18:42.51 | Tem | I didn't want it to be red, but I wanted it to stand out |
| 18:42.52 | ckknight | "my bad" |
| 18:42.53 | hC|school | you'll get the landmarks of the last zone |
| 18:42.59 | Eraphine|Lab | ok ok |
| 18:43.02 | Eraphine|Lab | it's just ahrd to read |
| 18:43.03 | hyperChipmunk | >8P |
| 18:43.20 | ag` | ckknight, got it... Don't use SetFontHeight and it won't happen |
| 18:43.30 | hyperChipmunk | was the whole reason it was where it was, to give the correct value for that GetNumMapLandmarks test |
| 18:43.35 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 18:43.37 | ckknight | alright |
| 18:43.38 | ckknight | that confused me |
| 18:43.54 | hyperChipmunk | ya, no biggie |
| 18:44.20 | ckknight | committed |
| 18:44.21 | cladhaire | Ready Tem? |
| 18:44.27 | Tem | bring it!~ |
| 18:44.37 | Eraphine|Lab | lmao tem |
| 18:44.39 | cladhaire | lol |
| 18:44.43 | hyperChipmunk | rofl tem |
| 18:44.44 | cladhaire | commiting in a second |
| 18:44.46 | ag` | btw, I am still getting the bug in revision 362 of Fubar that makes every module revert to default position if you get an error in any ace mod |
| 18:44.50 | Eraphine|Lab | registering leave on enter and enter on leave.. |
| 18:44.52 | Eraphine|Lab | tricky |
| 18:45.05 | ckknight | ag`, hrm |
| 18:45.16 | Tem | Eraphine|Lab: hmm? |
| 18:45.18 | ckknight | that seems odd, cause it never resets the position anymore |
| 18:45.24 | ckknight | what version are you using? |
| 18:45.24 | hyperChipmunk | also, ckknight: did you fix that 'drag-off-the-screen-makes-error' thing? |
| 18:45.37 | ckknight | never looked at it |
| 18:45.38 | ckknight | hang on |
| 18:45.50 | ckknight | dragging the plugin or the tooltip off screen? |
| 18:45.54 | hyperChipmunk | that's a big one |
| 18:45.56 | hyperChipmunk | the plugin |
| 18:46.11 | Eraphine|Lab | nevermind i'm reading it wrong |
| 18:46.11 | cladhaire | all set Tem |
| 18:46.13 | hyperChipmunk | like, when I tried to move my clock to the right edge after one of those resets which never happen |
| 18:46.25 | hyperChipmunk | I moved it to the right edge of the bar, and it was a little off the screen |
| 18:46.30 | hyperChipmunk | and it went *bzork* |
| 18:46.32 | Cairenn | oookay guys ... one at a time, complete with links and where you want it moved to ... |
| 18:46.35 | ag` | ckknight, revision 362 from SVN, guess it's the newest |
| 18:46.42 | Eraphine|Lab | interesting... |
| 18:46.46 | ckknight | hrm |
| 18:46.47 | ckknight | yep |
| 18:46.49 | ckknight | weird... |
| 18:47.00 | hyperChipmunk | and then it does wonky stuff |
| 18:47.00 | ckknight | ag`, can you send me your FuBar saved variables? |
| 18:47.04 | ckknight | ckknight at gmail |
| 18:47.14 | hyperChipmunk | reload will reset it to its default position, thankfully |
| 18:47.42 | Tem | thanks cladhaire |
| 18:47.43 | ag` | it will hyperChipmunk ? |
| 18:47.46 | ckknight | um, dragging it off the side does nothing for me, hyperChipmunk |
| 18:48.20 | hyperChipmunk | k, I'll load up wow in a sec and see if I can reproduce |
| 18:50.16 | Mikma | ok now i get it |
| 18:50.26 | Mikma | it's either mendeleev or periodictable |
| 18:50.30 | cladhaire | Tem: Look okay to you? |
| 18:50.34 | cladhaire | Lemme know when you merge, so I can switch back |
| 18:50.35 | Tem | yeah |
| 18:50.42 | Mikma | i have this nice bug... :D |
| 18:51.05 | Mikma | when i select repair item and mouseover any item in bag nr.1 it doesn't have any repaircost |
| 18:51.06 | cladhaire | Tem: The dynamic frame doesn't need to be anmed.. I had to do that for debugging. |
| 18:51.34 | Tem | yeah, I'm gonna take it out to kill the global |
| 18:51.40 | cladhaire | please do =) |
| 18:51.43 | cladhaire | want me to re-commit? |
| 18:51.48 | Mikma | items in bag nr.2 has 1 copper repaircost, bag nr.3 has 2 copper, bag nr.4 has 3 copper and bag nr.5 has 4 copper :D |
| 18:51.55 | cladhaire | its all ready =) |
| 18:52.12 | Tem | now I need to figure out hot to merg with tortsvn |
| 18:52.19 | cladhaire | should be easy |
| 18:52.21 | cladhaire | let me commit first |
| 18:53.10 | kergoth` | merging is painless, as long as you know exactly which revisions need to be merged |
| 18:53.18 | Tem | rofl! |
| 18:53.25 | cladhaire | kergoth`: Any chance we could work on CIA at some point? |
| 18:53.27 | Tem | websvn has a "blame" function |
| 18:53.32 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 18:53.36 | cladhaire | tells you who did what =) |
| 18:53.38 | Tem | puts your name next to every line you changed |
| 18:54.01 | Cairenn | no one? cool |
| 18:54.11 | kergoth` | clad, someone needs to remind me when i'm on irc and at home rather than at work :P |
| 18:54.17 | kergoth` | otherwise i'll forget |
| 18:55.03 | Tem | Cairenn: ? |
| 18:55.04 | cladhaire | kergoth`: I can set it up.. I just need to know if there's anything tricky you need me to do other than call the bot script |
| 18:56.03 | Cairenn | Tem: "oookay guys ... one at a time, complete with links and where you want it moved to ..." |
| 18:56.17 | Tem | oh, I didn't see it |
| 18:56.23 | hyperChipmunk | that sounds suspicially like effort, Cairenn |
| 18:56.26 | Tem | maybe no one else did |
| 18:56.31 | hyperChipmunk | I saw it |
| 18:56.32 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: awwwwww |
| 18:56.37 | cladhaire | I didnt see it =( |
| 18:56.51 | hyperChipmunk | but I figured my stuff would get moved with fubar |
| 18:56.55 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 18:57.08 | Cairenn | plugins stay in the plugin category |
| 18:57.15 | hyperChipmunk | and if it didn't then maybe I'd lift a finger |
| 18:57.37 | hyperChipmunk | see? all set |
| 18:57.53 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:58.18 | Mikma | cladhaire/Tem: where's the new version on catalyst? |
| 18:58.31 | Tem | Mikma: I'm going to put it on wowi in a few minutes |
| 18:58.44 | Mikma | Tem: rgr _o> |
| 18:59.01 | Mikma | Tem: thanks for putting the zoning-timer in :) |
| 18:59.13 | Tem | really, you should get Warmup |
| 18:59.19 | Mikma | i have :) |
| 18:59.21 | hyperChipmunk | can we get a breakdown of that by addon, maybe, tem? |
| 18:59.25 | hyperChipmunk | and maybe memory usage |
| 18:59.31 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: I hate you |
| 18:59.31 | cladhaire | haha |
| 18:59.35 | Neronix | heh |
| 18:59.40 | Cairenn | really, Tekkub needs to put Warmup on WoWI :p |
| 18:59.46 | Neronix | Times like this when I wish my webhost's dns wasn't fucked |
| 18:59.52 | Neronix | so I could make a qdb for this chan |
| 18:59.53 | Tem | Cairenn: I've been bitching him out for the last week to do that |
| 19:00.01 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 19:00.17 | Tem | I hated linking Warmup on ui.wow in the comments when people started requesting too many features |
| 19:00.42 | Cairenn | I'm gonna get you guys exclusive to WoWI if it's the last thing I do :p |
| 19:00.50 | hyperChipmunk | O-o |
| 19:01.15 | Cairenn | hey, I'm allowed to dream, aren't I? |
| 19:01.17 | hyperChipmunk | right after you quit smoking |
| 19:01.37 | Tem | well, the other sites are sufficiently pissing us off enough that you don't need to anything |
| 19:01.45 | hyperChipmunk | Tem: ha, good point |
| 19:01.48 | Cairenn | hyper, hyper, hyper. dear, sweet darling hyperChipmunk. fuck you |
| 19:01.57 | hyperChipmunk | aww <3 |
| 19:01.57 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 19:02.01 | Tem | can't do that cair |
| 19:02.04 | Tem | you already used that one |
| 19:02.06 | ckknight | I have no great inclination to post anywhere but WoWI |
| 19:02.18 | ckknight | too much effort |
| 19:02.19 | Cairenn | can't do it anyway |
| 19:02.20 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I'm almost sorry i ever used curse |
| 19:02.20 | Cairenn | married |
| 19:02.25 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 19:02.57 | ckknight | that's not a can't, that's a shouldn't |
| 19:03.07 | Neronix | n00b question #I-lost-count: |
| 19:03.07 | Wobin_ | I don't feel special anymore =( |
| 19:03.08 | Cairenn | point, set & match |
| 19:03.14 | Wobin_ | You'll fuck anyone =P |
| 19:03.15 | Neronix | why do people hate curse and ui.worldofwar? |
| 19:03.22 | Cairenn | ! |
| 19:03.27 | Wobin_ | I don't 'hate' curse |
| 19:03.28 | Cairenn | do not |
| 19:03.29 | id` | i dont hade ui |
| 19:03.30 | id` | :p |
| 19:03.34 | id` | hate* |
| 19:03.37 | hyperChipmunk | i hate ui.worldofwar |
| 19:03.40 | Wobin_ | I just find it's constant downtimes very irritating |
| 19:03.54 | hyperChipmunk | cuz they make me download files like 13431415FooAddon.zip |
| 19:03.58 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 19:04.08 | Mikma | well curse has more downtime than ui.w.. |
| 19:04.09 | ckknight | ag`, you ever gonna send me your saved variables so I can fix your bug? |
| 19:04.11 | Wobin_ | Not that I have any say in how they run their site, naturally... |
| 19:04.11 | Neronix | have to agree on that one hyper |
| 19:04.28 | hyperChipmunk | seriously, what is the point of that |
| 19:04.35 | hyperChipmunk | other than just making people not want to use your site |
| 19:04.41 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 19:04.46 | Wobin_ | I find it takes far too much effort to upload to curse, when it keeps timing out for me |
| 19:04.49 | ckknight | it seems annoying |
| 19:05.03 | Cairenn | I dislike them because I don't like their ethics, but that's a personal issue |
| 19:05.11 | hyperChipmunk | i duno 'bout their ethics |
| 19:05.15 | Wobin_ | nor I |
| 19:05.19 | hyperChipmunk | but their stupid download names are enough for me =) |
| 19:05.21 | Cairenn | both of them |
| 19:05.31 | hyperChipmunk | curse just feels cheap |
| 19:05.32 | ckknight | what ethics are you concerned with? |
| 19:05.35 | Cairenn | and guru, well, I just can't stand zeeg :p |
| 19:05.39 | Wobin_ | Well, curse is French |
| 19:05.43 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 19:05.48 | Wobin_ | I can agree with you there Cair =) |
| 19:06.03 | Cairenn | uploading mods themselves to build their database |
| 19:06.07 | ckknight | good point, Wobin_ |
| 19:06.27 | Wobin_ | He's done some nice things with translation and all, and I'll still offer links to his sites for people looking for translations, but I dislike him personally |
| 19:06.38 | Wobin_ | (And come to think of it, allakhazam has translations too) |
| 19:06.38 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 19:06.38 | Cairenn | it is *my* opinion (and that of the rest of the WoWI staff) that the only way a mod should get on a site is if the author chooses to upload it themselves |
| 19:06.40 | hyperChipmunk | and the ads |
| 19:06.47 | hyperChipmunk | on curse |
| 19:06.48 | Wobin_ | GoldGoldgold |
| 19:06.50 | hyperChipmunk | piss me off |
| 19:06.54 | Wobin_ | Gold! |
| 19:07.02 | hyperChipmunk | hehe wob |
| 19:07.11 | ckknight | power level, zomg! |
| 19:07.11 | hyperChipmunk | that's what really turned me off with curse |
| 19:07.38 | Neronix | firefox + adblock ftw |
| 19:07.47 | Wobin_ | An inablity to go directly to my addon on curse is irritating |
| 19:07.48 | Neronix | without it, I can't stand curse and half the internet |
| 19:07.52 | Wobin_ | (googleads) |
| 19:07.58 | Mikma | cladhaire: watchdog plain clickcast done soon? :D |
| 19:08.08 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i use firefox + adblock + a whale of a .hosts |
| 19:08.20 | Wobin_ | ~whalehug hyperChipmunk |
| 19:08.21 | purl | ACTION Persuades a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh to hug hyperChipmunk |
| 19:08.21 | hyperChipmunk | and curse somehow always manages to slip through |
| 19:08.23 | ckknight | I use Opera |
| 19:08.27 | hyperChipmunk | ~hugwhale |
| 19:08.43 | hyperChipmunk | =( |
| 19:08.51 | hyperChipmunk | apparently it only dishes 'em out |
| 19:10.30 | Ratbert_CP | Cairenn and/or Tem: Feel free to move BagBoy to the inventory subsection of the Ace section of WOWI... :) |
| 19:11.10 | Tem | Cair's really the only one who can do it. I'm trying to help her find stuff |
| 19:11.24 | hyperChipmunk | purl, whalehug is <action>watches in horror as $who attempts to hug a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh. |
| 19:11.25 | purl | ACTION Persuades a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh to hug is <action>watches in horror as $who attempts to hug a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh. |
| 19:11.37 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 19:11.54 | hyperChipmunk | oh oops |
| 19:12.01 | Cairenn | done |
| 19:12.03 | hyperChipmunk | purl, hugwhale is <action>watches in horror as $who attempts to hug a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh. |
| 19:12.04 | purl | hyperChipmunk: okay |
| 19:12.07 | hyperChipmunk | =P |
| 19:12.11 | hyperChipmunk | ~hugwhale |
| 19:12.12 | purl | ACTION watches in horror as hyperchipmunk attempts to hug a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh. |
| 19:12.41 | id` | hmmmm |
| 19:12.43 | Neronix | gah, hooks confuse me |
| 19:12.47 | Neronix | acehooks even more |
| 19:12.51 | ckknight | how? |
| 19:12.52 | Neronix | paste bin to the rescue! |
| 19:12.53 | ckknight | they're easy |
| 19:13.05 | ckknight | especially with ace |
| 19:13.19 | Neronix | I worked out how the manual hook I lifted from auctioneer works |
| 19:13.28 | Neronix | but I'm not 100% sure on converting it to a safe acehook |
| 19:14.06 | ckknight | paste |
| 19:14.14 | *** part/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce1.disney.com) |
| 19:14.17 | Wobin_ | did you mess up whalehug too? |
| 19:14.20 | Wobin_ | ~whalehug hyperChipmunk |
| 19:14.21 | purl | ACTION Persuades a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh to hug hyperChipmunk |
| 19:14.26 | Wobin_ | Oh good =) |
| 19:15.46 | hyperChipmunk | no I just whalehugged that big ol huge string =P |
| 19:16.43 | Tem | was it someone in here that said they had a cygwin compatible svn thingy? |
| 19:17.30 | cladhaire | Tem: i have native svn binaries. |
| 19:17.47 | cladhaire | can get em off the svn website |
| 19:17.56 | Tem | tort isn't cutting it for a merge |
| 19:18.49 | Neronix | Tem: just get it via the cygwin installer |
| 19:19.03 | Tem | Neronix: aha |
| 19:19.20 | Tem | I don't recall it giving me options |
| 19:19.29 | Tem | perhaps it came with it? |
| 19:19.45 | Neronix | the only real difference between the cygwin client and a native client is that cygwin will write the files with unix newlines |
| 19:19.59 | Neronix | and native with dos/windows newlines |
| 19:20.15 | Neronix | what do you mean, Tem? |
| 19:20.17 | Tem | better get the native one |
| 19:20.41 | Tem | I won't have any problems with unix newlines but I don't want to hear about it later... |
| 19:21.15 | Tem | *cough* |
| 19:21.29 | Tem | cladhaire: where did you get an svn binary for windows? |
| 19:21.34 | cladhaire | downloads |
| 19:21.36 | cladhaire | binaries. |
| 19:21.38 | cladhaire | there's a link |
| 19:22.08 | cladhaire | http://subversion.tigris.org/files/documents/15/29065/svn-1.3.0-setup.exe |
| 19:22.53 | Tem | heh, I found it right before you posted that |
| 19:23.04 | Tem | thanks |
| 19:24.12 | kergoth` | cladhaire: nothing special to be aware of, other than making sure the project is set to 'Ace'. |
| 19:24.21 | cladhaire | ok. |
| 19:24.25 | cladhaire | i'll play with it then |
| 19:27.04 | Neronix | ckknight: and anyone else who's interested: http://ace.pastebin.com/665634 |
| 19:27.36 | hyperChipmunk | Tem: how come everytime I zone, catalyst reports two zone times |
| 19:27.42 | hyperChipmunk | e.g. |
| 19:27.48 | Mikma | omfg, those timexbars on bigwigs rock |
| 19:27.52 | hyperChipmunk | Catalyst: Zone time 8.081 sec |
| 19:27.53 | hyperChipmunk | Catalyst: Zone time 8.082 sec |
| 19:28.06 | Tem | someone uncommented code that shouldn't have been? |
| 19:28.33 | otravi | arguments used in TriggerEvent has to be globals oO ? |
| 19:28.36 | hyperChipmunk | been like that for a few days i think |
| 19:28.49 | cladhaire | Tem: I dont think I did it. |
| 19:28.57 | Tem | hmm, nope |
| 19:29.20 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: there is no reason that it would do it twice |
| 19:29.33 | hyperChipmunk | well that's broken; I'm just going to delete it and install these other 4 zone time fixing addons instead |
| 19:29.37 | id` | uuhh im really confused.. cant i do "a={} a.b='c'" |
| 19:29.39 | id` | ? |
| 19:29.46 | Tem | what version do you have? |
| 19:29.53 | hyperChipmunk | just svn updated about 5 mins ag |
| 19:29.55 | hyperChipmunk | o |
| 19:30.14 | hyperChipmunk | sec, I'll take a look at le code |
| 19:30.20 | Tem | the "ace optional" version? |
| 19:30.23 | id` | anyone? :E |
| 19:30.29 | hyperChipmunk | heck I dunno |
| 19:30.31 | ckknight | I know your problem, Neronix |
| 19:30.37 | hyperChipmunk | i just did svn update * on my addons directory =) |
| 19:30.39 | Tem | otravi: isn't oRA ready to move into the Ace/Raid section ? |
| 19:30.40 | Neronix | I'm retarded? |
| 19:30.44 | ckknight | oh yes |
| 19:30.48 | ckknight | but I'm talking more specifically |
| 19:30.51 | Neronix | Thought so :P |
| 19:30.53 | otravi | Tem: I clearly broke oRA on the latest SVN :p |
| 19:30.56 | otravi | tired mode ftl |
| 19:31.07 | Tem | haven't updated it in a while |
| 19:31.08 | hyperChipmunk | ## RequiredDeps: Ace |
| 19:31.15 | otravi | reason for me asking: arguments used in TriggerEvent has to be globals oO ? |
| 19:31.15 | ckknight | like 24, change it to sef:CallHook("ToggleWorldMap") |
| 19:31.22 | Tem | yeah, we didn't change the toc hyperChipmunk |
| 19:31.39 | Wobin_ | id`: yes you can...? |
| 19:31.51 | Wobin_ | Why can't you? |
| 19:31.57 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, I thought it was ## Dependencies: Ace |
| 19:32.00 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 19:32.06 | hyperChipmunk | cuz PEW happens twice |
| 19:32.15 | cladhaire | does anyone have something to commit? |
| 19:32.22 | hyperChipmunk | I think |
| 19:32.39 | Wobin_ | I could commit what work I've done on MASH...? |
| 19:32.44 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:32.45 | Wobin_ | if you just need stuff commited |
| 19:33.09 | cladhaire | if you could commit something =) |
| 19:33.42 | Neronix | ckknight: I'm referring to this btw: http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceHooks |
| 19:33.46 | Neronix | is it outdated? |
| 19:33.48 | hyperChipmunk | yea, PEW fires twice |
| 19:34.07 | cladhaire | Neronix: It shouldn't be. |
| 19:34.22 | hyperChipmunk | is that not supposed to happeN? =x |
| 19:34.38 | Wobin_ | cladhaire: done |
| 19:34.59 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: I think after initial PEW, PEW might fire twice in Ace =( |
| 19:35.00 | cladhaire | not sure |
| 19:35.05 | cladhaire | Wobin_: Damnit.. it didn't work. |
| 19:35.17 | Wobin_ | What are you after? |
| 19:35.31 | hyperChipmunk | lemme see |
| 19:35.31 | cladhaire | CIA |
| 19:35.56 | Wobin_ | ah |
| 19:37.25 | otravi | okey... |
| 19:37.29 | otravi | I don't understand shit now.. |
| 19:37.51 | otravi | I tried something: didn't work, tried something new: didn't... tried the old thing again: worked |
| 19:38.42 | Wobin_ | I hafta sleep |
| 19:38.44 | Wobin_ | Night all |
| 19:39.21 | otravi | I've slept 13 hours the last 6 days |
| 19:40.28 | Tem | theres something I'm not understanding |
| 19:40.50 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:42.08 | hyperChipmunk | ya, okay; it seems liek PEW fires twice for any ace addon, and once for everything else...I've got clad's Ace branch running, so probably an issue with that; switching back to ace 1.3 to compare... |
| 19:43.04 | hyperChipmunk | yup, that's it |
| 19:43.24 | Tem | anyone familliar with svn command line? |
| 19:43.33 | hyperChipmunk | the new ace runs an extra PEW on reloadui too |
| 19:43.51 | hyperChipmunk | sorry tem |
| 19:43.55 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: Both Aces run two PEW? |
| 19:43.57 | cladhaire | or just mine? |
| 19:43.57 | hyperChipmunk | not to the extent you probably need |
| 19:43.59 | hyperChipmunk | no, just yours |
| 19:44.01 | hyperChipmunk | 1.3 is fine |
| 19:44.02 | cladhaire | ... |
| 19:44.04 | cladhaire | okay |
| 19:44.06 | cladhaire | interesting. |
| 19:44.14 | cladhaire | i'll fix that |
| 19:44.20 | hyperChipmunk | yep; want me to keep digging, or you think you know the cause |
| 19:44.21 | Tem | cladhaire: |
| 19:44.22 | hyperChipmunk | okay |
| 19:44.25 | Tem | svn merge -r 308:322 http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Catalyst |
| 19:44.31 | Tem | why did that do nothing |
| 19:47.34 | hyperChipmunk | the merges...they do nothing! |
| 19:49.51 | cladhaire | Lemme look temmypie. |
| 19:50.39 | Tem | I probably don't understand one or both of 2 things |
| 19:50.47 | Tem | How merges work |
| 19:50.58 | Tem | How to use the commandline to merge |
| 19:51.03 | Mikma | now i've seen all :P Nefa feared me under him and cleaved me for 3.8k |
| 19:52.47 | otravi | wee, found my error :D |
| 19:52.56 | cladhaire | Tem: my merge works using tortoise |
| 19:53.02 | otravi | I somehow managed to write: retun self:Trigger...... |
| 19:53.04 | cladhaire | lemme look at commandline |
| 19:53.07 | Tem | I dunno how to use tortoise |
| 19:53.10 | kergoth` | Tem: where were you when you ran that command? |
| 19:53.21 | otravi | s/tun/turn/ |
| 19:53.21 | Tem | in catalyst's root directory |
| 19:53.23 | hyperChipmunk | sitting at his computer, I guess |
| 19:53.48 | kergoth` | start over, what exactly are you trying to merge? |
| 19:54.00 | kergoth` | from a branch to trunk? |
| 19:54.03 | Tem | I'm trying to merge cladhaire's branch into the trunk |
| 19:54.05 | cladhaire | branches/Catalyst/Cladhaire needs to be merhged back into trunk/Catalyst |
| 19:54.18 | hyperChipmunk | Tem: Where were you on the night of the 322nd? |
| 19:54.18 | cladhaire | i can do it through tort.. but i'm looking at the cmdline too |
| 19:54.29 | kergoth` | tem, i dont see clad's branch anywhere in your merge command :P |
| 19:54.45 | kergoth` | it isnt psychic, it needs a source and a destination, or you merge from teh source into the current working directory |
| 19:56.10 | kergoth` | cd root/trunk/Catalyst; svn merge -r308:322 http://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/Catalyst/Cladhaire; svn commit |
| 19:56.14 | kergoth` | or so |
| 19:56.34 | cladhaire | svn merge http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Catalyst http://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/Catalyst/Cladhaire --dry-run |
| 19:56.36 | kergoth` | as per the man page, its merge -rN:M SOURCE [WCPATH] |
| 19:56.47 | Tem | I got it to work, I think |
| 19:57.11 | kergoth` | thatd work too, thatd merge the differences between those two sources into the working copy. so make sure you're sitting int eh catalyst trunk regardless. |
| 19:57.18 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 19:57.20 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: you around? |
| 19:57.22 | cladhaire | there are a few ways you can do it |
| 19:57.27 | ckknight | yep |
| 19:57.28 | Tem | oh noes |
| 19:57.39 | Tem | it turned my .lua into a diff file |
| 19:57.44 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 19:57.45 | cladhaire | haha |
| 19:57.47 | kergoth` | svn revert -R . |
| 19:57.49 | kergoth` | :P |
| 19:59.49 | cladhaire | kergoth: I know you're at work.. but im SO confused. |
| 19:59.57 | Tem | ditto |
| 20:00.02 | cladhaire | well |
| 20:00.03 | cladhaire | not about that =) |
| 20:00.34 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: gonna walk myself down these two errors I got |
| 20:00.47 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:01.23 | Tem | why did svn merge http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Catalyst http://svn.wowace.com/roo |
| 20:01.23 | hyperChipmunk | I wonder if the one has to do with the fact that I'm dragging and my wow cursor is appearing on my second monitor =) |
| 20:01.23 | Tem | t/branches/Catalyst/Cladhaire not work? |
| 20:01.39 | hyperChipmunk | and I drop it and get the FuBar.lua:2074:Insertion point not found |
| 20:02.18 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 20:02.27 | kergoth` | Tem: first of all, thats likely backwards. second of all, itll only work if you're sitting in the catalyst trunk |
| 20:02.45 | hyperChipmunk | only happens when my wow cursor is in my second monitor's viewing area |
| 20:02.51 | hyperChipmunk | not sure if there's much you can do about that |
| 20:03.11 | ckknight | don't do that. |
| 20:03.16 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 20:03.33 | hyperChipmunk | hopefully it's just that |
| 20:03.51 | hyperChipmunk | second on might be either my addon or..not sure |
| 20:03.55 | hyperChipmunk | do you have wow running now? |
| 20:04.20 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:04.25 | Tem | kergoth: I am in a directory that checked out from the trunk. Does that count? |
| 20:04.41 | hyperChipmunk | do you have BatFu loaded by chance? it seems to only affect that |
| 20:04.50 | kergoth` | yes, thats what you need, the WCPATH needs to be the catalyst trunk |
| 20:05.01 | hyperChipmunk | hm, affects some others too |
| 20:05.10 | Tem | I just switched the two paths and nothing at all happened |
| 20:05.26 | ckknight | no |
| 20:05.27 | hyperChipmunk | ok, here's a prime example |
| 20:05.32 | hyperChipmunk | forget batfu |
| 20:05.34 | hyperChipmunk | this is a better one |
| 20:05.47 | hyperChipmunk | detach money's tooltip |
| 20:05.59 | Tem | I dunno what I just did, but it worked |
| 20:06.00 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.18 | hyperChipmunk | do you have visor? can you hide the MainMenuBar? |
| 20:06.55 | cladhaire | Tem: lol |
| 20:07.04 | ckknight | hang on |
| 20:07.19 | Tem | when I ran the merge command the first time, I made my .lua file look like a diff |
| 20:07.39 | ckknight | lol, that's a bug |
| 20:07.40 | ckknight | hehe |
| 20:07.42 | hyperChipmunk | hide the mainmenubar, then drag the money tooltip until it's just off the bottom of the screen; it should pop back so that its bottom edge is just a few pixels from the screen bottom |
| 20:07.50 | ckknight | fixing... |
| 20:07.54 | hyperChipmunk | now, drag it so about half...yea |
| 20:10.57 | Tem | oh I give up |
| 20:11.08 | Tem | it tells me it didn't change anything |
| 20:11.11 | Tem | but it does |
| 20:11.19 | Tain | Well at least I have sound again. |
| 20:11.35 | Tem | inc spam |
| 20:11.38 | Tem | matt@tard ~/interface/AddOns/Catalyst |
| 20:11.38 | Tem | $ svn merge http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Catalyst http://svn.wowace.com/roo |
| 20:11.38 | Tem | t/branches/Catalyst/Cladhaire |
| 20:11.39 | Tem | U Catalyst.lua |
| 20:11.39 | Tem | U Catalyst.toc |
| 20:11.51 | Tem | but it /does/ make the change |
| 20:11.53 | Tain | Since I couldn't find Klipsch 2.1's in stock nearby I treated myself to some Sennheiser headphones. |
| 20:11.58 | Tem | so, Im baffled |
| 20:14.41 | ckknight | ValidateFramePosition(detached) was fucking it up |
| 20:14.52 | otravi | there, hope I fixed oRA now :p |
| 20:14.55 | kergoth` | Tem: what? |
| 20:15.04 | kergoth` | if it makes the change, whats the problem? |
| 20:15.10 | Tem | the U |
| 20:15.14 | kergoth` | the U is just fine |
| 20:15.17 | kergoth` | whats the problem? |
| 20:15.19 | Tem | indicating Unchanged |
| 20:15.22 | hyperChipmunk | u means update |
| 20:15.23 | ckknight | committed, hyperChipmunk |
| 20:15.27 | kergoth` | no, it doesnt mean unchanged. |
| 20:15.31 | kergoth` | it means it updated from teh repo |
| 20:15.34 | hyperChipmunk | it means Update |
| 20:15.34 | Tem | aha |
| 20:15.35 | kergoth` | witha newer version |
| 20:15.38 | hyperChipmunk | like when you get a new version |
| 20:15.39 | Tem | what does C mean? |
| 20:15.43 | kergoth` | Conflict |
| 20:15.44 | hyperChipmunk | committed |
| 20:15.47 | hyperChipmunk | or, right |
| 20:15.47 | Tem | aaah! |
| 20:16.04 | hyperChipmunk | Confused =) |
| 20:16.05 | Tem | so my previous fail to merge was what caused the funny diff looking thing |
| 20:16.21 | kergoth` | yes. |
| 20:16.21 | hyperChipmunk | yea, you're supposed to resolve it |
| 20:16.21 | kergoth` | you'd have to fix it manually there, due to the conflict |
| 20:16.22 | Tem | so it caused a conflict when it tried to merge |
| 20:16.31 | Tem | yay |
| 20:16.32 | kergoth` | it should show your version ,the version in upstream, and the common ancestor of the two |
| 20:16.35 | Tem | I'm not confused anymore |
| 20:16.37 | kergoth` | and let you work it out between those |
| 20:16.48 | Tem | thanks kergoth |
| 20:16.51 | kergoth` | np |
| 20:17.57 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, I also updated a GloryLib change |
| 20:18.12 | ckknight | oh yea, did you update BatFu to the new API and such? |
| 20:18.23 | ckknight | or did you not need to? |
| 20:18.30 | hyperChipmunk | i'm finding out |
| 20:18.35 | hyperChipmunk | it works so far, but only wsg |
| 20:18.41 | hyperChipmunk | sitting in an ab queue now |
| 20:19.01 | otravi | re-roll horde, we have max 5 sec queues |
| 20:19.32 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:19.36 | hyperChipmunk | or i could poke my eye out wiht a stick |
| 20:19.38 | ckknight | yea, Horde is great like that |
| 20:19.42 | ckknight | ? |
| 20:19.45 | ckknight | what's wrong with Horde? |
| 20:19.55 | ckknight | less kids |
| 20:20.01 | kergoth` | agreed |
| 20:20.07 | kergoth` | i gave up on alliance long ago |
| 20:20.23 | hyperChipmunk | actually, I'm the youngest one on my pvp squad, with the exception of my g/f |
| 20:20.30 | kergoth` | i much prefer killing the wannabe-legolas kids to playing with them |
| 20:20.32 | hyperChipmunk | I lead mostly 30-yr olds |
| 20:20.45 | hyperChipmunk | it's the horde pvpers who tend to be the teenagers |
| 20:21.03 | hyperChipmunk | with their leet undead rogues |
| 20:21.57 | ckknight | undead priest |
| 20:22.09 | kergoth` | the guild i'm in is The Grownup Guild. maturity is a requirement... we have to boot far too many people :\ |
| 20:22.17 | Mikma | nelf priest here |
| 20:22.19 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 20:22.53 | hyperChipmunk | nelf hunter |
| 20:22.59 | hyperChipmunk | Mynithrosil, Destroyer of Gnomes |
| 20:23.21 | ckknight | you're Alliance... |
| 20:23.26 | ckknight | Gnomes are on your side |
| 20:23.27 | hyperChipmunk | so? |
| 20:23.35 | kergoth` | i gotta say, theres nothing more annoying than a gnome rogue |
| 20:23.41 | kergoth` | stabbing my knees and shit |
| 20:23.42 | ckknight | kergoth, my guild is 18+ |
| 20:23.44 | Mikma | gnome rogue? |
| 20:23.53 | Mikma | try undead rogue |
| 20:23.56 | hyperChipmunk | my guild is 23+ |
| 20:24.00 | hyperChipmunk | cuz I'm the only one in it |
| 20:24.02 | Mikma | that always scares the crap out of me |
| 20:24.05 | hyperChipmunk | Mynithrosil |
| 20:24.07 | kergoth` | hehe |
| 20:24.09 | hyperChipmunk | <Cow Level Battlemaster> |
| 20:24.42 | hyperChipmunk | I put on my FM gear, take off my helm, and stand with the rest of the battlemasters and laugh myself to tears at how many people try to queue |
| 20:25.37 | hyperChipmunk | the wait times are really long though, since it seems the horde don't have any Cow Level Battlemasters =\ |
| 20:26.58 | ckknight | you're on an RP server, right? |
| 20:27.01 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 20:27.09 | ckknight | I think I'd actually have an easier time RPing a Horde than an Alliance |
| 20:27.12 | Tem | ok, Mikma latest Catalyst is up on WoWI |
| 20:27.30 | hyperChipmunk | horde on RP servers are generally looking for an excuse to be dicks |
| 20:27.59 | Neronix | ckknight: got the hook working, thanks |
| 20:28.03 | hyperChipmunk | "huh huh I'm a jerk cuz it's in-character" |
| 20:28.35 | hyperChipmunk | nobody plays an honorable orc warrior |
| 20:28.52 | hyperChipmunk | for examle |
| 20:29.01 | Mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.09 | hyperChipmunk | and I just died in Darkwhisper gorge while typing =P |
| 20:29.20 | ckknight | Neronix, no problem |
| 20:29.30 | ckknight | how are Horde dicks? |
| 20:29.31 | Neronix | and sorry for being retarded :P |
| 20:30.20 | hyperChipmunk | it's generally, "i have a macro that repeats the /spit emote 100 times in a loop because I'm a horde and we're supposed to be mean" |
| 20:30.27 | ckknight | ... |
| 20:30.30 | ckknight | no they're not |
| 20:30.37 | otravi | hyperChipmunk: well, the person playing a orc warrior...... |
| 20:30.53 | ckknight | they just have a brain condition which has part of the skull pushing down on their brain, causing severe migrains |
| 20:31.04 | ckknight | this makes them agitated |
| 20:31.11 | hyperChipmunk | yea that's it |
| 20:31.14 | *** join/#wowace TheFly| (i=the@h43n1fls34o267.telia.com) |
| 20:31.18 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:31.33 | ckknight | actually, the Berzerker tribe of the Vikings did have that condition |
| 20:31.39 | ckknight | Berserker* |
| 20:31.49 | ckknight | so it's funny |
| 20:32.37 | hyperChipmunk | it's funny cuz they'd be too stupid to come up with that quality of a pretext for being a jerk |
| 20:32.45 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:32.51 | Mikma | umf |
| 20:32.52 | ckknight | I try not to be a jerk |
| 20:32.57 | hyperChipmunk | you'd at least give 'em credit for that |
| 20:33.00 | ckknight | I merely try to gain a position of power, then abuse it |
| 20:33.07 | Mikma | KCI doesn't work even that much when repairing single items in inventory |
| 20:33.09 | ckknight | abuse it to the extreme. |
| 20:33.21 | otravi | wtb someone to play/test the new SVN oRA version |
| 20:33.31 | otravi | (that didn't come out right, but you get the deal( |
| 20:33.35 | Mikma | otravi: you're 30mins too late :P |
| 20:33.50 | Mikma | our bwl just ended |
| 20:34.26 | otravi | damn :( |
| 20:35.17 | Mikma | otravi: was i you who made a bossblock? |
| 20:35.51 | Mikma | s\i\it |
| 20:36.26 | otravi | Mikma: /point Tekkub |
| 20:36.42 | Mikma | tekkub doesn't like me :( |
| 20:36.54 | Mikma | so that's why i'll rather say it to you xD |
| 20:37.47 | Mikma | well anyways, seems like CTRA uses two stars and three stars atleast on BWL dragons |
| 20:38.04 | Neronix | crap, I've still messed up the hook >.< |
| 20:38.08 | otravi | yeah, I've noticed that also |
| 20:38.14 | otravi | on frenzy bosses |
| 20:38.14 | Neronix | how do I call the original function after I've hooked it? |
| 20:38.25 | Mikma | yeah |
| 20:38.35 | Neronix | wiki says self.Hooks[functionName].orig(), which doesn't work |
| 20:38.44 | cladhaire | Neronix: Pastebin it please? |
| 20:38.47 | otravi | self:CallHook("function") I think |
| 20:39.00 | cladhaire | *shake* |
| 20:39.03 | cladhaire | that's deprecated |
| 20:39.05 | cladhaire | at least for now. |
| 20:39.11 | otravi | oh :o |
| 20:39.28 | Mikma | i forgot, who else uses KCI then |
| 20:39.46 | otravi | then I use what instaed :D ? |
| 20:40.17 | cladhaire | otravi: self.Hooks[functionName].orig() or self.Hooks[object][method].orig() |
| 20:40.23 | Mikma | i'm gettign a weird error when mouseovering a item needing to be repaired |
| 20:40.47 | Neronix | cladhaire: When I do that, I get an error about self being a nil value |
| 20:40.56 | ckknight | bad. |
| 20:41.01 | Mikma | All i have to do is press "Repair an Item" and mouseover something that's lost durability |
| 20:41.06 | ckknight | you need to call it within a method |
| 20:41.42 | cladhaire | Neronix: Then you don't have self.. you have to call it within a method.. or reference it in another way. |
| 20:41.47 | cladhaire | Neronix: Pastebin your code and I'll take a look |
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| 20:42.03 | Mikma | KC_Items\tooltip\tooltip.lua:200: attempt to index local 'moneyFrame' (a nil value) |
| 20:42.44 | Neronix | is a method a function that's inside an object? |
| 20:42.49 | Neronix | http://ace.pastebin.com/665812 |
| 20:43.18 | Tem | yay lol |
| 20:43.24 | cladhaire | if you change self to AHProtectWin |
| 20:43.25 | cladhaire | OR |
| 20:43.27 | Tem | Tseric made a direct comment about my addon |
| 20:43.35 | cladhaire | change the function definition to AHProtectWin:ToggleWorldMap() |
| 20:43.42 | Tem | " At this time, we do not take issue with the Catalyst mod. There is nothing inappropriate about using this add-on. The Game Master in question will be notified of the correct policy." |
| 20:43.46 | cladhaire | depending on how its being called, and call it using : notation |
| 20:43.50 | hyperChipmunk | smirk |
| 20:43.51 | Tain | Nice Tem |
| 20:43.51 | cladhaire | Tem: Yay beans! |
| 20:43.56 | Neronix | ok, thanks |
| 20:44.08 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: is there changes to the GloryLib api that I should be taking into consideration? |
| 20:44.16 | Mikma | Tem: huh, what's that? |
| 20:44.42 | hyperChipmunk | it's his addon that doesn't display addon memory usage or individual load times |
| 20:45.04 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, I only changed the ones I told you about last night |
| 20:45.05 | hyperChipmunk | also it does something-or-another about events...or zoning...or something |
| 20:45.29 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: okay, so the call interface is the same with the rest of the stuff? |
| 20:45.40 | Tem | Mikma: a GM said in response to someone's ticket that Catalyst was a bannable addon because when he read the addon description I described it as a "quick hack" |
| 20:45.50 | hyperChipmunk | that's *never* a good thing |
| 20:46.17 | Mikma | Tem: some people can be so stupid sometimes :( well good thing they answered |
| 20:46.25 | Mikma | Tem: is that on forums? |
| 20:46.25 | Tem | hence the BOLD RED text at the top of the description |
| 20:46.29 | Tem | Mikma: yes |
| 20:46.30 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, wait, not everythingh |
| 20:46.33 | Tem | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=361953&p=1&tmp=1#post361953 |
| 20:46.37 | Neronix | now I'm getting, "attempt to index field ? (a nil value)" |
| 20:46.37 | Mikma | Tem: thanks |
| 20:46.41 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, I changed one thing to return nil instead of UNKNOWN |
| 20:46.44 | Neronix | and I've tried both ways of solving it |
| 20:46.44 | hyperChipmunk | Tseric is the uldaman statue-looking guy? |
| 20:46.48 | hyperChipmunk | oh right |
| 20:47.01 | hyperChipmunk | but I commented suggesting that anyways |
| 20:47.12 | hyperChipmunk | if you don't return anything, does it return nil anyways? |
| 20:47.14 | hyperChipmunk | or what does it do |
| 20:47.36 | ckknight | yea, you suggested it, I went with it |
| 20:47.58 | ckknight | that's pretty much all I can think of |
| 20:48.13 | hyperChipmunk | it was basically a catch-all, since your tooltips get all misaligned when you put an AddDoubleLine with only one line having text |
| 20:48.36 | cladhaire | Neronix: Can you please post the entire hook, and the call of the hook? |
| 20:48.44 | Mikma | HAHA! "That GM must have been on crack, or must not like his job, so he really wasnt doing any work, just sending pre-made replies cause he is lazy." |
| 20:48.47 | ckknight | I actually made AddDoubleLine work better if one or both are nil |
| 20:48.52 | hyperChipmunk | but that logic can be taken care of by handling a nil return in the code |
| 20:48.57 | hyperChipmunk | plugin code^ |
| 20:49.00 | ckknight | it just treats it like an AddLine that's left or right aligned |
| 20:49.04 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that was a long time ago |
| 20:49.07 | hyperChipmunk | good deal |
| 20:49.12 | hyperChipmunk | oh, also |
| 20:49.15 | ckknight | or an AddBlankLine |
| 20:49.45 | hyperChipmunk | if you have something of category nil, then something of category "foo" |
| 20:49.51 | hyperChipmunk | you don't get the extra spacing |
| 20:50.04 | hyperChipmunk | and if you add a blank line in there, it's huge |
| 20:50.34 | hyperChipmunk | I had to make a dummy category for the thing I wanted nil to get the spacing to work out |
| 20:50.34 | Neronix | cladhaire: everything's basically self:Hook("ToggleWorldMap") and that function I put on the pastebin |
| 20:50.45 | otravi | btw, there has to be someone rating one on every Ace addon... |
| 20:50.47 | Mikma | Tem: so, who's this Tseric -blizzposter? |
| 20:50.54 | Tem | yeah |
| 20:51.00 | Tem | I think he's the new head CM |
| 20:51.01 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I think he's the one that looks like the uldaman boss |
| 20:52.08 | hyperChipmunk | if my memory serves me |
| 20:52.09 | Tem | aye |
| 20:52.18 | Mikma | now i hope to see the original post where Teerinia answered that |
| 20:52.32 | cladhaire | Neronix: then definitely change it to : |
| 20:52.32 | Mikma | might have pretty answers |
| 20:52.35 | cladhaire | and test that out. |
| 20:52.40 | cladhaire | tell me exactly what you get |
| 20:53.32 | ag` | Mikma, could you try my prerelease and see how it works... It's on the site |
| 20:54.16 | id` | hm we have a new anoying noob at the forums.. tazmanyak :< |
| 20:54.19 | Mikma | ag`: sure pop me an url |
| 20:54.23 | ckknight | don't use nil categories |
| 20:54.25 | Neronix | When the AH window's open, I get the message about suppression as expected |
| 20:54.30 | ckknight | or at least don't mix and match |
| 20:54.32 | Tem | id`: sorry, he's my fault |
| 20:54.34 | ckknight | wasn't meant for that |
| 20:54.44 | Neronix | but when it's closed, I still get the error about indexing field "?" |
| 20:55.00 | Neronix | it refers to the line with AHProtectWin.Hooks[ToggleWorldMap].orig() |
| 20:55.06 | id` | Tem: ? :P |
| 20:55.21 | Tem | he's one of the retards who couldn't figure out that catalyst had a dependendcy |
| 20:55.39 | id` | jeez |
| 20:55.40 | id` | :p |
| 20:55.52 | id` | Cairenn: feature request for addons! |
| 20:56.01 | hyperChipmunk | tem =( |
| 20:56.04 | cladhaire | Neronix: "ToggleWorldMap" |
| 20:56.13 | Cairenn | id`: post it in the site suggestions forum |
| 20:56.15 | cladhaire | if you check the usage, anytime you use a function/method its in quotes. |
| 20:56.17 | Neronix | d'oh |
| 20:56.31 | Mikma | ag`: oh, it's YOU, hi hehe. took me a moment to figure out what addon |
| 20:56.55 | id` | Cairenn: on wowi; when submitting an addon; if an addon has dependencies show a list of addons to choose from so you can show that in the addon page as links to those deps :P |
| 20:56.58 | id` | Cairenn: k |
| 20:57.11 | Neronix | It works! |
| 20:57.14 | hyperChipmunk | he's French too |
| 20:57.23 | Neronix | thanks a lot! |
| 20:57.26 | cladhaire | no =) |
| 20:57.29 | cladhaire | np rather |
| 20:57.39 | id` | hyperChipmunk: you can just read that can you? |
| 20:57.43 | id` | hyperChipmunk: xD |
| 20:57.56 | id` | can't* |
| 20:59.35 | hyperChipmunk | Erreur |
| 21:00.18 | hyperChipmunk | eu...when a single 'o' just won't do! |
| 21:01.05 | id` | thats what i love about dutch tbh |
| 21:01.06 | ag` | Mikma, oh yeah. Sorry :P |
| 21:01.19 | id` | all those oaiue with dots and ' and 1 on them |
| 21:01.26 | id` | we just replace it with 2 letters |
| 21:01.28 | id` | :P |
| 21:01.32 | hyperChipmunk | and for the truly pretentious, we're offereing great deals on 'eunt' |
| 21:02.04 | otravi | how do you move a mod on WoWI btw :) ? |
| 21:02.13 | id` | --^ |
| 21:02.19 | hyperChipmunk | you send Cairenn a message |
| 21:02.27 | otravi | hokai |
| 21:02.33 | hyperChipmunk | like she said to =) |
| 21:02.35 | Cairenn | otravi: hi |
| 21:02.48 | otravi | Cairenn: not now tho', was thinking for the future |
| 21:02.54 | Cairenn | link of mod to be moved, and tell me where ... okay |
| 21:03.01 | hyperChipmunk | 14:46 <@Cairenn> oookay guys ... one at a time, complete with links and where you want it moved to ... |
| 21:03.15 | hyperChipmunk | oh she's here =) |
| 21:03.16 | otravi | going to smack out oRA 1.1.0 today, then let it see if there are any new bugs |
| 21:03.18 | otravi | if not: move |
| 21:03.19 | Mikma | ag`: anything particular you wan't me to test? |
| 21:03.33 | Cairenn | if I'm not in channel/afk, PM one of the staff on the site with link to what mod needs to be moved, and where to move it to |
| 21:03.48 | ag` | nah, just did a lot of changes, just wanted to know if it is usable for anyone else than me ^^:: |
| 21:03.51 | otravi | aye, thanks for the information :) |
| 21:04.52 | Mikma | ag`: well login was error-free ;) i'll go and try with my rogue |
| 21:04.54 | id` | Cairenn: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4564 and 4595 both to http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=77&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate i think |
| 21:04.54 | Cairenn | we're so incredibly hard to get hold of, so hard to get along with, over at WoWI |
| 21:05.19 | hyperChipmunk | agreed |
| 21:05.31 | hyperChipmunk | especially that Cairenn |
| 21:05.35 | ckknight | Cairenn, where would FuBar fit? |
| 21:05.36 | hyperChipmunk | just who does she think she is |
| 21:05.37 | ag` | Mikma, oh... Not sure if combo points is working like it used to |
| 21:05.44 | id` | o wait, idchat needs to go http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=72&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate here |
| 21:06.12 | Cairenn | yeah yeah, I put it in the right place |
| 21:06.14 | id` | ckknight: id say interface enhancements |
| 21:06.18 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:06.19 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:06.43 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 21:07.02 | hyperChipmunk | I need to aceify RaidMap |
| 21:07.07 | Mikma | ag`: well we'll see soon :) |
| 21:07.15 | Cairenn | ckknight: ether Inter Enhance or Misc, at this point |
| 21:07.18 | hyperChipmunk | so I can justify putting it in the Ace Database of Leetness |
| 21:08.40 | Mikma | assemblage! |
| 21:08.42 | hyperChipmunk | gratz |
| 21:08.49 | Tem | hmm |
| 21:09.07 | Tem | I wonder what did that for me |
| 21:09.09 | id` | Mikma: :] |
| 21:09.41 | Tem | when I zip up addons, the zip doesn't include the .svn folder |
| 21:09.43 | Mikma | id`: assemblage 23 - ground :D |
| 21:09.56 | Mikma | the onlyone i have but it still rocks like hell |
| 21:10.11 | Tem | since when is windows smart enough to ignore stuff I actually want ignored |
| 21:10.14 | id` | *search* |
| 21:10.21 | Eraphine|Lab | it's hidden? |
| 21:10.36 | id` | Eraphine|Lab: yes somewhere in my playlist |
| 21:10.39 | id` | =P |
| 21:10.41 | hyperChipmunk | i never understood why people linked their current music in irc |
| 21:10.48 | hyperChipmunk | like, dude |
| 21:10.57 | Tem | Eraphine|Lab: yeah I think so, is win spart enough to not zip hidden files? |
| 21:10.59 | id` | hyperChipmunk: dude like, look what just happened |
| 21:11.18 | id` | hyperChipmunk: community |
| 21:11.20 | id` | :) |
| 21:11.27 | hyperChipmunk | np: 7 I Dreamed a Dream, Les Miserables - Original Cast Recording |
| 21:11.40 | hyperChipmunk | DUDE SWEET |
| 21:12.12 | otravi | np: Machinae Supremacy - Ghost (Beneath The Surface) [5:15] |
| 21:12.32 | hyperChipmunk | oh see? it's a good time we know the length of it |
| 21:12.36 | hyperChipmunk | thing* |
| 21:12.38 | Mikma | id`: haven't heard much of assemblage's songs but ground really rocks :) |
| 21:13.13 | otravi | ~emulate zeeg |
| 21:13.14 | purl | the only way you could make me like any of you is with $ |
| 21:13.27 | hyperChipmunk | np: Raffi - Baby Beluga [4:48] |
| 21:13.27 | ckknight | is that a real quote? |
| 21:13.34 | id` | zeeg still bugs me to try out stuff on his site |
| 21:13.35 | otravi | probably |
| 21:13.39 | id` | and be an admin there |
| 21:13.41 | id` | >_o |
| 21:13.42 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:13.43 | hyperChipmunk | none of the quotes are actually real |
| 21:13.51 | ckknight | Saien's are |
| 21:13.55 | id` | yeh |
| 21:13.55 | id` | :p |
| 21:13.58 | ckknight | ~emulate Saien |
| 21:13.59 | purl | Slash commands are ameturish. |
| 21:14.12 | ckknight | ~emulate Saien |
| 21:14.13 | purl | You are of course, wrong, and I invite you to prove it to yourself. |
| 21:14.20 | id` | ~emulate Industrial |
| 21:14.22 | purl | I suck at LUA and rip othe people's code. |
| 21:14.23 | Mikma | ag`: ok the combotext has 2 sides, the +: it's really in neat place. -: it's hidden under healthbar |
| 21:14.24 | hyperChipmunk | they're just people stereoype-paraphrasing someone |
| 21:14.25 | id` | hahaha |
| 21:14.27 | id` | :p |
| 21:14.31 | otravi | id`: owned :p |
| 21:14.37 | otravi | ~emulate otravi |
| 21:14.39 | id` | otravi: i made it myself :> |
| 21:14.43 | otravi | :-( |
| 21:14.46 | id` | purl: literal emulate Industrial |
| 21:14.47 | purl | "emulate industrial" is "<reply>I suck at LUA and rip othe people's code. || <reply><id`>\o. FOR THE HORDE <id`> I'm a horde nazi" |
| 21:14.51 | otravi | someone make a emulate otravi |
| 21:14.55 | Tem | oh noes |
| 21:14.55 | id` | \o. |
| 21:14.57 | ckknight | I will |
| 21:15.26 | ckknight | purl, emulate otravi is <reply> I have slept 13 hours in the past 4 days |
| 21:15.27 | purl | okay, ckknight |
| 21:15.30 | otravi | :-P |
| 21:15.36 | ckknight | ~emulate otravi |
| 21:15.37 | purl | I have slept 13 hours in the past 4 days |
| 21:15.39 | ckknight | hooray! |
| 21:15.43 | otravi | yay for me |
| 21:15.45 | hyperChipmunk | ~emulate me |
| 21:15.54 | Tem | ~lapdance ckknight |
| 21:16.03 | ckknight | they took that out, Tem |
| 21:16.06 | ckknight | wasn't appropriate |
| 21:16.07 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 21:16.08 | Tem | oh damn I forgot I deleted that |
| 21:16.12 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:16.30 | ckknight | you censored me... |
| 21:16.34 | ag` | Mikma, combopoints wasn't something I focused on... It's for later for me to do, I just changed a lot so I had no idea how they would be working now |
| 21:17.00 | Mikma | ag`: okidoki |
| 21:17.19 | kergoth` | mmm, this profiling tool for c/c++ code kicks some serious ass |
| 21:18.02 | Mikma | ag`: well the combopoint-text/bar can be a problem with ABF layout |
| 21:18.15 | ag` | Mikma, yeah |
| 21:18.23 | Mikma | there's really not that much room around to put it in and people can't see too small text |
| 21:18.27 | hyperChipmunk | dhud? |
| 21:18.30 | ag` | I'm going to think up a new way to display them |
| 21:18.46 | ckknight | it's a hud on the screen that shows your health/mana + enemy's health/mana |
| 21:18.50 | ag` | How about maybe some dots for each point or something -_-;; |
| 21:19.06 | Mikma | well the question is "like what?" :) there's not much room around to be used also |
| 21:20.03 | otravi | Tekkub: anyplans to lower the spam on some BigWigs Bossmods? |
| 21:20.12 | otravi | Tekkub: like: magmadars: self:TriggerEvent("BIGWIGS_MESSAGE", self.loc.warn3, "Red") |
| 21:20.14 | ag` | well I was thinking like the leader icon but in the right side instead of left, Mikma |
| 21:20.17 | otravi | Tekkub: You get like.... 25 of those :p |
| 21:20.52 | Mikma | ag`: then you'll have to find out another place for PvP icon |
| 21:21.35 | ag` | Mikma, yeah.. Maybe to combos could be in one of the bottom corners then -_-;; |
| 21:21.49 | Mikma | but well, there is 4 places to place them. Bar1 left and right and Bar2 left and right |
| 21:22.08 | ag` | but how would dot icons work instead of text? |
| 21:22.37 | Mikma | ag`: wel they would have to be either BIG or really separeted to be visible |
| 21:22.46 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3760 |
| 21:23.04 | ag` | Mikma, well something like the leader icon or pvp is visible enough, or? |
| 21:23.46 | id` | Mikma: http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/bands |
| 21:23.50 | Mikma | ag`: well the icons are visible, since they are really simple |
| 21:24.02 | ag` | yeah I would go with simple icons |
| 21:24.06 | id` | Mikma: contributions appreciated, those will go under "yet to check out" |
| 21:24.06 | id` | :p |
| 21:24.11 | ag` | just a round dot |
| 21:24.20 | ag` | How does AceLucenFrames display combo points? |
| 21:24.40 | otravi | number above the frame I think |
| 21:25.00 | ag` | ok |
| 21:25.23 | Mikma | ag`: well there is 1 way. move the targetframe down like 5 pixels and use 5 dots in top of the frame |
| 21:26.03 | ag` | It's not going to be floating outside the frame because the user could set his buffs to be above the target frame, and that would make them overlap |
| 21:26.28 | Mikma | yeah that's the problem |
| 21:26.34 | id` | thats not a problem |
| 21:26.39 | id` | if the user makes them overlap |
| 21:26.45 | id` | the user makes em overlap.. |
| 21:26.53 | ag` | :P |
| 21:26.57 | id` | if he doesnt want that he uh.. reconfigures it? |
| 21:26.58 | Mikma | you're being too kind to give them a chance to change the places ;) |
| 21:27.51 | ag` | well some people would like their auras above their frame, those people should be able to read their combo points too ;P |
| 21:29.46 | Mikma | well, use 1 if function. if auras = bottom then mgcombo = "top", and if auras = top then mgcombo = "bottom" |
| 21:30.39 | Mikma | that will completely ignore the left and right positioning which will not matter |
| 21:31.27 | Mikma | id`: ok, will electronic cover what music-styles? |
| 21:31.52 | Mikma | id`: only ebm? |
| 21:35.09 | hyperChipmunk | thx cai |
| 21:37.05 | Mikma | anyone who want's to see a pervert video? :D |
| 21:39.07 | otravi | Major Domo... has been defeated |
| 21:39.13 | otravi | Major Domo... mod enabled |
| 21:39.14 | otravi | hehe :D |
| 21:39.53 | Mikma | :) |
| 21:40.20 | hyperChipmunk | hehee |
| 21:40.28 | Mikma | TopScoreFu didn't register my topcrit ambush moment ago :( |
| 21:45.18 | Neronix | Cairenn: Feel free to move AHProtectWin to the Ace/Auctions category |
| 21:45.30 | Cairenn | link? |
| 21:46.04 | Cairenn | ah, nm |
| 21:47.27 | kergoth` | id`: good musical selection there. will have to check out the couple bands i havent heard. |
| 21:48.31 | id` | Mikma: That's everything I have on my HD :< |
| 21:48.49 | id` | Mikma: so thats everything i have 'checked out' |
| 21:48.59 | id` | 'checked'* |
| 21:49.03 | id` | literally, on the list xD |
| 21:49.06 | Mikma | id`: but do you like only industrial/ebm |
| 21:49.22 | id` | Mikma: I like noise and power noise too |
| 21:49.23 | Mikma | or does the electronic cover ie. trance ++ |
| 21:49.28 | otravi | Tekkub: error on Line 77 in majordomo.lua (bigwigs): 77: attempt to concatentate field '?' (a nil value) |
| 21:49.29 | id` | and hardcore sometimes |
| 21:49.39 | Cairenn | Neronix: it should be in the right place now |
| 21:49.53 | id` | Mikma: depends i guess, but i accept any music :P even anime music ;D |
| 21:50.04 | id` | kergoth`: :] |
| 21:50.15 | Neronix | Cairenn: ok, thanks |
| 21:51.24 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, get into AB/AV yet? |
| 21:51.45 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I'm getting some problems with my ttv code in AB |
| 21:51.50 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:51.56 | hyperChipmunk | preventing me from getting through to the rest of the stuff |
| 21:52.08 | hyperChipmunk | I don't get it, though |
| 21:52.17 | hyperChipmunk | if resData then |
| 21:52.25 | hyperChipmunk | and then resdata is nil inside |
| 21:52.32 | hyperChipmunk | resData* |
| 21:54.02 | id` | im updating idChat lifting it up to 11000, and in the next version ill add an option to switch between hh:mm:ss and hh:mm timestamps |
| 21:54.07 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastebin.com/665981 |
| 21:55.05 | hyperChipmunk | lines 15 and 24 are giving me errors about indexing field `?' |
| 21:55.18 | Neronix | idChat wins. A lot :P |
| 21:55.21 | id` | aaaaand im done |
| 21:55.24 | id` | xD |
| 21:55.32 | id` | zipping... |
| 21:56.26 | Mikma | hyperChipmunk: you don't need ( .. ) at resData[bases] - elapsed ? |
| 21:56.46 | hyperChipmunk | yes I do |
| 21:56.51 | hyperChipmunk | order of operations |
| 21:56.52 | ckknight | you're missing an ] at line 2 |
| 21:57.15 | hyperChipmunk | there's two of them there, boss |
| 21:57.15 | ckknight | nvm |
| 21:57.20 | ckknight | didn't show up for me |
| 21:57.21 | ckknight | weird. |
| 21:57.28 | hyperChipmunk | Mikma: goalResources - resources |
| 21:57.29 | hyperChipmunk | ---------------------- |
| 21:57.34 | hyperChipmunk | resData[bases] |
| 21:57.54 | ckknight | use GetTime(), not time() |
| 21:57.57 | hyperChipmunk | not goalResources - (resources/resData[bases] |
| 21:58.10 | hyperChipmunk | s/]/])/ |
| 21:59.18 | ckknight | why do you have or nil? |
| 21:59.22 | hyperChipmunk | line 4 says resData has something |
| 21:59.49 | ckknight | use table.getn, not just getn |
| 21:59.51 | hyperChipmunk | because with 0 bases, time to victory is infinite |
| 22:00.09 | hyperChipmunk | resData has rates |
| 22:00.13 | hyperChipmunk | and with 0 bases, the rate is 0 |
| 22:00.25 | ckknight | #INF is a false value? |
| 22:00.31 | hyperChipmunk | and I doubt it likes trying division by zero =) |
| 22:00.40 | ckknight | actually it doesn't mind |
| 22:01.28 | hyperChipmunk | preposterous! |
| 22:01.42 | ckknight | the or nil makes absolutely no sense, you know |
| 22:02.01 | id` | die tamtams klopfen nicht mehr... BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM |
| 22:02.11 | Mikma | now where did andreas go :P |
| 22:02.38 | hyperChipmunk | well, when I had it before, when it was part of batfu, it gave me a false value for an if |
| 22:03.02 | otravi | Tekkub: also line 22 in Ragnaros.lua should be: warn7 = "20 seconds until Ragnaros submerge & Sons of Flame!", |
| 22:03.04 | Neronix | > print(8 / 0) |
| 22:03.04 | Neronix | 1.#INF |
| 22:03.13 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I just tried that nero |
| 22:03.18 | Neronix | ah, ok |
| 22:03.26 | hyperChipmunk | 1.#INF and -1.#INF are pos and neg infinity, presumably |
| 22:03.43 | ckknight | yep |
| 22:03.44 | hyperChipmunk | and they're even type "number" |
| 22:03.55 | id` | Neronix: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4595 |
| 22:03.57 | Neronix | not strings? |
| 22:04.03 | ckknight | yes they are, hyperChipmunk |
| 22:04.06 | hyperChipmunk | type(3/0) |
| 22:04.08 | hyperChipmunk | "number" |
| 22:04.08 | Tekkub | erf |
| 22:04.25 | hyperChipmunk | so you can do comparisons on 'em, I presume |
| 22:04.27 | Neronix | interesting |
| 22:04.32 | Neronix | thanks id` |
| 22:04.34 | ckknight | also, 1/0 == 3/0 |
| 22:04.38 | id` | np |
| 22:04.47 | hyperChipmunk | i.e. values which everything is less than |
| 22:04.48 | id` | bedtime :< |
| 22:05.09 | hyperChipmunk | not that it does me any good =) |
| 22:05.31 | Tekkub | you know otter, I'm perfectly fine with people fixing typos and committing em up instead of telling me about em :) |
| 22:05.34 | hyperChipmunk | I just want to have it split out to a different branch of code |
| 22:05.38 | Tekkub | I'll fix the domo shit tho |
| 22:05.49 | hyperChipmunk | when it hits that /0 |
| 22:05.52 | id` | Mikma, kergoth`; you have to check out noisuf-x. its a side project of x-fusion (wich is also a one man project). it owns |
| 22:06.11 | Neronix | hmm |
| 22:06.18 | Neronix | > if ( 1/0 == -9/0 ) then print("pie"); else print("cake") |
| 22:06.18 | Neronix | >> end |
| 22:06.18 | Neronix | cake |
| 22:06.31 | ckknight | of course not, Neronix |
| 22:06.33 | hyperChipmunk | that'd be correct |
| 22:06.37 | ckknight | 1/0 ~= -1/0 |
| 22:06.37 | hyperChipmunk | cuz pos and neg infinity are different |
| 22:06.41 | ckknight | they're opposite |
| 22:06.44 | hyperChipmunk | but pos inf and pos inf are same |
| 22:06.46 | Neronix | er, wait, forgot about thefact there's a negative inf |
| 22:06.56 | Neronix | sorry :< |
| 22:06.57 | ckknight | ~pet Neronix |
| 22:06.59 | purl | ACTION reaches over and pets Neronix on the head, saying "There, there! It'll all be ok!" |
| 22:06.59 | hyperChipmunk | yea, it's kind of important |
| 22:07.09 | Mikma | id`: i gotta remember the name and ask from my industrial-library ;) |
| 22:07.09 | ckknight | there's also 0/0 |
| 22:07.11 | ckknight | NaN |
| 22:07.28 | hyperChipmunk | 1.#IND |
| 22:07.36 | id` | hah :P |
| 22:07.45 | hyperChipmunk | 1-point-indeterminable! |
| 22:08.00 | hyperChipmunk | there's a -1.#IND too |
| 22:08.01 | hyperChipmunk | for -0/0 |
| 22:08.22 | ckknight | -0/0 ~= 0/0 |
| 22:09.01 | hyperChipmunk | anyway |
| 22:09.10 | hyperChipmunk | applications of lua to calculus aside |
| 22:09.33 | hyperChipmunk | still doesn't explain the field `?' |
| 22:09.39 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: I think it's refering to indeterminant form |
| 22:09.42 | Tem | 0/0 |
| 22:10.00 | ckknight | my in game chat channels are royally messed up |
| 22:10.00 | hyperChipmunk | yes, I get that =) |
| 22:10.07 | hyperChipmunk | BUT THAT"S NOT MY PROBLEM! |
| 22:10.15 | ckknight | I can't leave trade or LFG, and I can't talk in those |
| 22:10.25 | ckknight | how do I fix this? |
| 22:10.25 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: *shudder* |
| 22:10.32 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.34 | Mikma | hmm. i installed FuBar + some other addons and my loot-roll window is missplaced now :D |
| 22:10.35 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.39 | ckknight | already tried, hyperChipmunk |
| 22:10.46 | hyperChipmunk | or failing that, right-click your chat tab and at least turn them off |
| 22:10.54 | hyperChipmunk | so they're not spamming your textbox |
| 22:10.54 | ckknight | I need them |
| 22:10.59 | hyperChipmunk | ew |
| 22:11.00 | ckknight | I need to talk in them |
| 22:11.09 | ckknight | that's the issue |
| 22:11.09 | hyperChipmunk | delete your chat-cache.txt |
| 22:11.10 | Neronix | hmm |
| 22:11.12 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:11.15 | hyperChipmunk | well, back it up |
| 22:11.20 | Neronix | hyper beat me :< |
| 22:11.30 | hyperChipmunk | unless you're fine with resetting all your chat settings |
| 22:11.47 | hyperChipmunk | should be in like your WTF/Account/ACCOUNTNAME dir |
| 22:12.16 | Neronix | think chat cache is per character now |
| 22:12.23 | Neronix | lemme go check |
| 22:12.35 | Mikma | anyone knows what's the roll-windows name? |
| 22:12.37 | hyperChipmunk | depends if you've changed it on other characters |
| 22:12.54 | hyperChipmunk | Mikma: steve |
| 22:13.06 | Neronix | yeah, it's WTF/Account/*acct name*/*server name*/*char name* |
| 22:13.09 | hyperChipmunk | don't call him stephan, though |
| 22:13.10 | Mikma | hyperChipmunk: ok i'll grep it up |
| 22:13.12 | hyperChipmunk | he hates you |
| 22:13.16 | ckknight | I already did it |
| 22:13.16 | hyperChipmunk | if you do that |
| 22:13.39 | Mikma | grep steven * .. not found |
| 22:16.48 | ckknight | grep -i steve * |
| 22:20.31 | id` | nn |
| 22:20.46 | Tem | oh dear, lol |
| 22:20.48 | hyperChipmunk | night id |
| 22:20.49 | *** join/#wowace haste (n=haste@host-81-191-131-80.bluecom.no) |
| 22:21.05 | Tem | Catalyst is 5 votes shy of kicking T King from the top rated list |
| 22:21.25 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 22:21.45 | hyperChipmunk | way to bite the hand that feeds you |
| 22:21.55 | Tem | and it's tied with ItemRack for favorites >< |
| 22:22.02 | hyperChipmunk | Cairenn will destroy you |
| 22:22.18 | Cairenn | nope |
| 22:22.22 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 22:22.45 | hyperChipmunk | wtf my function works for dummy values =\ |
| 22:23.14 | Tem | I will feel bad if I kick a real addon that took you know like... effort to write from the top favorites/rated/downloads list with catalyst |
| 22:23.28 | Tem | but at the same time, it amuses me to no end |
| 22:23.45 | ckknight | well, FuBar will no longer spam deprecation warnings at you |
| 22:23.59 | hyperChipmunk | I like the "put the warning in the tooltip" |
| 22:24.06 | ckknight | hehe |
| 22:24.07 | ckknight | you caught me |
| 22:24.09 | hyperChipmunk | that was great =) |
| 22:24.11 | ckknight | that's what I did |
| 22:24.14 | hyperChipmunk | good |
| 22:24.44 | ckknight | for everything that does FuBarTooltip:AddWhatever(), it just clears the lines, adds the "This plugin is using a deprecated tooltip scheme..." |
| 22:25.15 | Tem | damnit |
| 22:25.20 | Tem | are you going to force me to update? |
| 22:25.33 | ckknight | if you want to use FuBar 1.0 |
| 22:26.28 | ckknight | I told everyone this would happen |
| 22:26.34 | ckknight | it's at the top of the WoWI page |
| 22:26.40 | Tem | I suppose it's a good thing I don't feel the need to use many plugins other than what's in the starter pack |
| 22:26.49 | Tekkub | yea those chat warnings were bad, especially considering you could just use the tooltip to display it :P |
| 22:27.16 | ckknight | well that's what I do now, Tekkub |
| 22:27.24 | Tekkub | yea I saw |
| 22:27.43 | ckknight | I wanted it still to "work" for this last week |
| 22:27.50 | ckknight | but let people know it's deprecated |
| 22:28.25 | ckknight | now, it won't show relevant information unless they upgrade |
| 22:29.26 | Tem | Cairenn: can you boot him? please? |
| 22:29.40 | Tem | I tried but chanserv bitched at me |
| 22:29.42 | Cairenn | he's not doing anything wrong, now |
| 22:29.56 | Tem | some nonsense about not being an op on that channel |
| 22:30.35 | Tem | he's annoying the hell out of me |
| 22:30.44 | Tem | that's not allowed, right? |
| 22:30.49 | hyperChipmunk | correct |
| 22:32.00 | Tem | oh man |
| 22:32.04 | Tem | I'm a bad person |
| 22:32.06 | Cairenn | easy solution guys .. /ignore zeeg |
| 22:32.52 | hyperChipmunk | current state of batfu in av =P : http://69.14.77.214/batfuav.png |
| 22:32.59 | Tem | Catalyst just took ItemRack's spot on the top favs list |
| 22:33.19 | Tem | dumbass users |
| 22:33.29 | Tain | haha |
| 22:33.45 | Tem | oh, but we're still tied |
| 22:33.47 | Tem | Cair! |
| 22:33.53 | Tem | can you make it so ItemRack wins the tie? |
| 22:34.29 | hyperChipmunk | some things are destroyed...we won't tell you what's destroyed, but they're definitely destroyed! |
| 22:34.37 | hyperChipmunk | I guess you changed the api a bit =) |
| 22:34.43 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: heh |
| 22:34.46 | Tem | fix it quick |
| 22:34.50 | Tem | I plan on doing an AV tonight |
| 22:35.01 | hyperChipmunk | oh, heh; something happened |
| 22:35.05 | hyperChipmunk | and now less things are destroyed |
| 22:35.09 | hyperChipmunk | =P |
| 22:35.23 | ckknight | did you change your code to use the iterator? |
| 22:35.35 | hyperChipmunk | figuring that out now |
| 22:36.59 | Neronix`sleep | night |
| 22:37.41 | Tem | later |
| 22:38.22 | Cairenn | *fume* |
| 22:39.15 | kergoth` | err, i somehow just made my rearchitected object model work without thinking about it, yet last night i couldnt even comprehend it, much less make it work |
| 22:41.59 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:42.08 | ckknight | ~comfort Cairenn |
| 22:42.09 | purl | There, there, Cairenn. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 22:42.31 | hyperChipmunk | hehehe |
| 22:42.33 | Tem | There, there, Cairenn. It's Okay. here for you |
| 22:42.37 | Tem | We're* |
| 22:42.45 | hyperChipmunk | a little improvement : http://69.14.77.214/batfuav2.png |
| 22:42.48 | Cairenn | heh, thanks guys |
| 22:43.21 | Tem | what amazes me is that we've had this conversation with him before |
| 22:43.21 | ckknight | why did he tell you not to be dumb? |
| 22:43.23 | ckknight | that's just rude |
| 22:43.25 | Tem | and he was wrong |
| 22:44.27 | Cairenn | ckknight: because that's the way he is |
| 22:44.37 | hyperChipmunk | where are you guys talking about? |
| 22:44.45 | hyperChipmunk | am I missing something? |
| 22:45.07 | ckknight | pastebin your updatetooltip code |
| 22:45.13 | Cairenn | in the WoWI channel, hyperChipmunk |
| 22:45.18 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, zeeg is being an ass in #wowi-lounge |
| 22:45.31 | kergoth` | zeeg? being an ass? *shock* |
| 22:45.31 | Cairenn | per usual |
| 22:45.32 | kergoth` | :P |
| 22:45.45 | Tem | ~emulate saien |
| 22:45.47 | purl | Your question is not very descriptive, helpful, or useful in any manner. |
| 22:45.53 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastebin.com/666075 |
| 22:46.02 | Tem | what were all those from? |
| 22:46.05 | Tem | Anyone remember? |
| 22:46.13 | hyperChipmunk | ah, I didn't realize there was a wowi channel |
| 22:46.16 | Tem | most of them were from one signle thread |
| 22:46.21 | hyperChipmunk | or was that by design? =x |
| 22:46.30 | Tem | lol hyperChipmunk |
| 22:46.37 | hyperChipmunk | hey, hey |
| 22:46.47 | hyperChipmunk | I'm pretty annoying; I don't kid myself |
| 22:46.55 | Tem | you don't see us making comments about the action in the other channel? |
| 22:47.04 | Tem | we do it all the time |
| 22:47.09 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but I just never knew what it was |
| 22:47.16 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: #wowi-lounge |
| 22:47.24 | Cairenn | you're welcome to join us if you wish |
| 22:47.35 | Cairenn | he seems to have shut up again, for now at least |
| 22:47.37 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, glory:GetSortedObjectiveNodesList() no longer exists |
| 22:47.43 | otravi | I'll join as soon as I remember thow I added auto-join chan :p |
| 22:47.54 | hyperChipmunk | =D thx cai |
| 22:48.07 | Cairenn | otravi: what client do you use? |
| 22:48.33 | ckknight | wait |
| 22:48.34 | ckknight | crap |
| 22:48.45 | otravi | Cairenn: irssi, but I found it already :D |
| 22:48.47 | hyperChipmunk | looks like it exists to me =) |
| 22:48.50 | ckknight | forgot to rename it |
| 22:48.50 | Cairenn | k |
| 22:48.56 | ckknight | it's going to be IterateSortedObjectiveNodes |
| 22:49.06 | Mikma | hehe.. |
| 22:49.07 | Mikma | Irssi 0.8.9 (20031210) - http://irssi.org/ |
| 22:49.28 | hyperChipmunk | it's in your ~/.irssi/config |
| 22:49.51 | otravi | /CHANNEL ADD -auto #wowi-lounge freenode << ftw:D |
| 22:50.16 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, committed |
| 22:50.17 | hyperChipmunk | that too |
| 22:50.22 | hyperChipmunk | righto, chief |
| 22:51.43 | ckknight | just start putting in prints() where things don't make sense |
| 22:52.01 | hyperChipmunk | I am; just a slow process |
| 22:54.16 | hyperChipmunk | hm, looks like glory:GetNodeName() ain't workin |
| 22:55.41 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 22:55.49 | ckknight | that was your function, afaik |
| 22:56.16 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but you fudged up battlefieldObjectiveStatus =) |
| 22:57.01 | Mikma | nice signature: The box said "requires Win98 or better", so I bought a Mac. |
| 22:57.05 | hyperChipmunk | yikes |
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| 22:57.21 | hyperChipmunk | oh i see |
| 22:57.26 | hyperChipmunk | you have it in pairs |
| 22:57.32 | hyperChipmunk | so i can't do a table lookup |
| 22:57.51 | hyperChipmunk | i was looking for self.battlefieldObjectiveStatus[poi].name |
| 22:59.11 | hyperChipmunk | I assume there's easy function for getting those values out? |
| 22:59.34 | ckknight | pairs? |
| 22:59.57 | ckknight | what line in GloryLib? |
| 22:59.57 | hyperChipmunk | k, I'll look into it |
| 23:00.16 | hyperChipmunk | 1191 |
| 23:00.23 | hyperChipmunk | 1197 |
| 23:00.24 | hyperChipmunk | etc |
| 23:00.26 | hyperChipmunk | the returns |
| 23:01.09 | hyperChipmunk | DHUD is pretty snazzy |
| 23:02.08 | kergoth` | indeed it is |
| 23:02.16 | Mikma | phew |
| 23:02.21 | Mikma | http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wow20060416123624972dx.jpg <- look at that titan bar |
| 23:02.28 | Mikma | tell me what's wrong with it |
| 23:03.15 | Tain | I know I know! |
| 23:03.18 | Tain | It's a Titan bar |
| 23:03.23 | Mikma | bingo! |
| 23:03.36 | Mikma | https://home.comcast.net/~rberry883/WoW/Velveeta53.jpg <- that one makes me almost cry |
| 23:03.40 | Jagobah | lololol |
| 23:03.42 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:03.46 | ckknight | I was gonna say it's not FuBar |
| 23:04.24 | Mikma | well the last one is FuBar |
| 23:04.39 | Mikma | check the bottom... |
| 23:04.57 | Tekkub | that is one busy ass screen |
| 23:05.05 | Tekkub | at least he's a woofy tauren druid |
| 23:05.37 | Tain | I keep wanting to suggest making FuBar be able to have vertical bars as well. But then I remember I wouldn't actually use them so why would I suggest it. |
| 23:05.40 | Mikma | well i was trying to get you to look the "235.5MiB" part but hey, it's a tuaren |
| 23:06.07 | Tekkub | fuck... that must take ages to sog in on |
| 23:06.17 | Mikma | https://home.comcast.net/~rberry883/WoW/VelRaid.jpg on this one he uses titan and has only 152.977MB |
| 23:06.20 | Tekkub | *log |
| 23:06.36 | Tekkub | "only" |
| 23:06.45 | Tekkub | I "only" pull ~40MiB |
| 23:07.00 | Jagobah | And I thought having 70MB with lootlink was bad! |
| 23:07.09 | Mikma | my priest has 25MiB with all raid-addons loaded |
| 23:07.16 | Mikma | rogue has 16MiB |
| 23:07.45 | Jagobah | without lootlink I hover around 40MB |
| 23:08.02 | kergoth` | mine is around 29-32, jumps to around 65 when auctioneer loads.. course i scan both alliance and horde ah's on that server |
| 23:08.10 | Mikma | item db's are baad :( |
| 23:08.27 | kergoth` | i use itemdb for that, since it uses the game's item cache |
| 23:08.27 | Jagobah | =o |
| 23:08.32 | Tekkub | I bet someone has Auc open all the time |
| 23:08.36 | kergoth` | s/game/client/ |
| 23:08.56 | Jagobah | lol |
| 23:12.39 | Mikma | has PerfectTooltip Target of Target support? |
| 23:14.13 | Cairenn | Tem: it's an error in the full graphic template, will be fixed soon ... it shows correctly in the lite version: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=47&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate |
| 23:15.28 | Tem | Cairenn: the lite version is a HUGE improvement |
| 23:15.41 | Tem | *cheer* |
| 23:15.45 | Cairenn | the lite version is the way it's supposed to be |
| 23:15.48 | hyperChipmunk | did i mention that BatFu works awesome in wsg =P |
| 23:16.01 | Cairenn | as I said, it's an error in the template, Dolby'll get it fixed soon |
| 23:16.06 | Tem | yay |
| 23:16.28 | Tem | can you ask for a feature? |
| 23:16.39 | Cairenn | what? |
| 23:16.45 | Tem | A "List all files" button |
| 23:17.02 | Cairenn | in all the sub-cats? |
| 23:17.07 | Cairenn | hrmmmm |
| 23:17.24 | Tem | would generate a page with a sortable page of everything in that cat and below |
| 23:18.02 | Cairenn | post it in the suggestion forum, that's gonna be something that'll be "in the future" |
| 23:18.10 | Tem | aye |
| 23:18.15 | hyperChipmunk | all the way...to the year 2000? |
| 23:18.28 | Tem | one just like the lowest "level" when you're down to showing actual addons |
| 23:18.50 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: who knows, anything is possible! |
| 23:20.50 | Cairenn | Tem: fixed: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=47&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate |
| 23:20.56 | Mikma | bah, why there ain't any good tooltip-addons around |
| 23:21.06 | hyperChipmunk | write one |
| 23:21.07 | Tem | wewt |
| 23:21.10 | Tem | thanks cair |
| 23:21.14 | otravi | Mikma: use AF_ToolTip mini ! |
| 23:21.16 | Cairenn | all Dolby |
| 23:21.20 | Cairenn | per usual |
| 23:21.26 | Mikma | otravi: i would if it would have ToT support |
| 23:21.38 | otravi | It's a tooltip :p |
| 23:21.52 | Tekkub | ah that's better |
| 23:21.59 | Tekkub | monthly shower is outta the way |
| 23:22.05 | Mikma | still i like to see who's the mouseovered person targeting |
| 23:22.55 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: so you need to loop through the pairs until you get to the value you need? that's more efficient? |
| 23:24.12 | Tem | Cairenn: posted |
| 23:26.12 | Cairenn | Tem: k |
| 23:26.43 | Tekkub | hey Cair, why is MountMe not under inventory.. and IdMinimap is? con(Fusion) |
| 23:33.24 | Tain | Gah finally got my Sirius set up indoors. |
| 23:33.31 | Tain | Was having all sorts of trouble. |
| 23:34.23 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten (n=Kaelten@68.63.3.183) |
| 23:34.27 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 23:34.59 | Kaelten | hi |
| 23:35.10 | hyperChipmunk | am I getting this right? to look up a value in a pairs listing, you do 'for k, v in pairs(t) do if k == "foo" then return v end end'? |
| 23:35.24 | Kaelten | think so |
| 23:35.33 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 23:35.43 | Tekkub | uh chip... |
| 23:35.49 | hyperChipmunk | seems like a backwards way of doing it |
| 23:35.53 | Tekkub | that's checking the index not the key... |
| 23:36.16 | Tekkub | if t["foo"] then return t["foo"] end |
| 23:36.26 | hyperChipmunk | ah, got it |
| 23:36.28 | Tekkub | hell even just return t["foo"] |
| 23:36.36 | Tekkub | it'll return nil if it's not defined |
| 23:36.43 | Tekkub | return t.foo :) |
| 23:37.53 | kergoth` | "that's checking the index not the key..." <-what? |
| 23:38.11 | kergoth` | they're one and the same, he was just taking a really roundabout approach is all |
| 23:38.14 | kergoth` | :P |
| 23:39.21 | Kaelten | kergoth, something is weird with that class code |
| 23:40.15 | Kaelten | local x = AceCore2.Class() |
| 23:40.15 | Kaelten | function x:print() |
| 23:40.15 | Kaelten | error("bob", 2) |
| 23:40.15 | Kaelten | end |
| 23:40.15 | Kaelten | x:print() |
| 23:40.35 | Kaelten | gives me this error:attempt to call global `error' (a nil value) |
| 23:42.39 | kergoth` | lua5.0: objtest.lua:159: bob |
| 23:42.44 | kergoth` | when i test it here outside of wow |
| 23:43.10 | Tem | ? |
| 23:43.10 | kergoth` | i'll poke at it in wow when i get home |
| 23:43.27 | Cairenn | PM :p |
| 23:43.46 | Tain | Feh flights to LA are too expensive, I dont' think I'll end up going to E3 afterall. |
| 23:44.18 | Kaelten | Tain: check with expedia |
| 23:44.56 | kergoth` | Kaelten: oh, i know waht it is. |
| 23:45.04 | Tain | I generally make my rounds, travelocity, expedia, travel.yahoo.com, southwest.com, jetblue |
| 23:45.11 | clad|afk | Tem: Everyone is all up in their shit about Catalyst in my guld again =) |
| 23:45.28 | kergoth` | Kaelten: blizzard specific foolishness. line 139 of obj.lua, newclass.env = setmetatable({}, {__index = _G, __class = newclass}) |
| 23:45.37 | kergoth` | Kaelten: bliz doesnt define _G, change that from _G to getfenv(0) |
| 23:46.10 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 23:46.14 | kergoth` | your function environments werent inheriting from the global env as a result |
| 23:46.18 | kergoth` | which is why error wasnt defiend |
| 23:46.29 | Tem | clad|afk: whad do you mean? |
| 23:46.33 | kergoth` | the function environments are necessary for the implementation of super() |
| 23:46.58 | Kaelten | works now kergoth |
| 23:47.05 | kergoth` | woot. |
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| 23:48.21 | cladhaire | Tem: They're raving about it.. I was told to tell you it rocks. |
| 23:48.27 | Tem | :) |
| 23:48.31 | cladhaire | and you can remove the dependecy line fromt he descriptino now. |
| 23:48.43 | Tem | I did, didn't I? |
| 23:49.09 | cladhaire | I dunno |
| 23:49.12 | cladhaire | thats what i was told to tell you |
| 23:49.41 | Tem | ask them what they mean |
| 23:49.49 | Tem | 'cus I dunno what they're talking about |
| 23:49.51 | Kaelten|AFK | be back in a bit guys |
| 23:50.01 | Tem | later Kaelten|AFK |
| 23:55.12 | Mikma | Tain: is there a way of removing the gray border of buttons with visor? |
| 23:56.48 | Tain | No, Mikma. You have to do more because they get shown again by the UI while you're playing. |
| 23:57.22 | Tain | So you actually need to have an addon to do just that, monitoring for the times that they would be shown/hidden. |
| 23:57.31 | Tain | Or replace the button art. |
| 23:58.08 | Mikma | ok. i found the blizzards code which has to be modified to get rid of the borders |
| 23:59.07 | Mikma | with the same code i was able to modify the color of borders when i drap & drop a skill from spellbook |
| 23:59.28 | Tain | Ah ok excellent! |
| 23:59.51 | Mikma | i'll pop it in pastebin so you can take a peek if interested |
