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00:09.52TekkubHUZZAH!
00:10.17Mikma:P
00:11.05Mikmait's a mac bug
00:11.09Mikmai'm 100% sure
00:11.20Mikmathat's why the fucking row is jumping
00:11.29CIA-1303tekkub * r520 10PerfectRaidTargets/ (Core.lua TargetFrame.lua):
00:11.29CIA-13PerfectRaidTargets
00:11.29CIA-13- Fixed text frame width wackynes, should never get "..." again regardless of font mods
00:11.29CIA-13- MobName woll expand to fit the largest mob name (it doesn't shrink back tho, not sure if I should add that?
00:11.32Tekkubsorry was writing the commit notes
00:12.29Tekkub*growl* retarded children
00:12.38Tekkubthat's why I sleep during the day usually
00:12.50kergoth`gods valgrind/kcachegrind kick so much ass
00:13.56TainAnd Synap comes back with the backhand to cladhaire!
00:16.04TekkubI don't know which is worse, the jackoff children or the bitchy ass mother
00:16.47hyperChipmunkTekkub: you're not making any sense
00:16.55Tekkubchip: summary
00:17.05hyperChipmunkwe're not actually there with you, you realize
00:17.08Tekkubchild: "SCREAM"
00:17.31Tekkubmother: "Get over here!... come here... COME HERE"
00:17.42Tekkubchild: "SCREAM"
00:17.54Tekkuball out in the art parking lot
00:18.02Tekkub*apt
00:18.14CIA-1303ckknight * r521 10FuBar/FuBarTooltip.lua: FuBar - now opens color swatch when clicking a detached tooltip's Color dropdown button.
00:19.11ckknightdespite my cold nature, I'm surprisingly good with kids
00:19.15Tekkuband yea, the funny thing about synap is he has a whole 20 posts and every one I've seen is arguing that whatever is wrong and he's right
00:19.28TekkubI hate children, always have
00:19.43TekkubI avoids them at all costs
00:19.55ckknightyou're just jealous
00:20.31Tekkubnah I just hate stupid people, and children simply by their not-been-educated nature are naturally stupid :P
00:20.42TekkubI hate stupid adults a lot more than kids
00:20.46hyperChipmunki hear that
00:21.25Tekkubplus I like to be left alone, kids are naturally curious and don't understand that I don't want to talk to them
00:23.16TainAdults don't understand either, and you get the annoying ones who think they need to then find out why.
00:23.44TekkubTain: those fall in the category of "stupid adults" for me
00:24.31hyperChipmunkI've never really made a distinction
00:24.37hyperChipmunkpeople just suck
00:24.40TekkubI've met plenty of people that just leave me be when I say I'm antisocial... the stupid ones think it's a problem that they need to rectify by being MORE social with me
00:24.52Tekkubwhich in the end makes me be even more antisocial
00:24.52CIA-1303ckknight * r522 10FuBar/FuBarTooltip.lua:
00:24.52CIA-13FuBar - fixed a typo
00:24.53CIA-13~hug CIA-13
00:24.54purlACTION hugs CIA-13
00:25.10Tekkublol
00:25.26Tekkubgod now everyone's gonna do that
00:25.44TainThey better not.
00:25.52TainThat falls into the category of, "Cute!  Once."
00:26.09hyperChipmunktoo bad he blew it
00:26.14hyperChipmunkhe could have just done ~hug me
00:26.16Tekkub~commit
00:26.56hyperChipmunkand it would have been hug me...purl hugs CIA-13...CIA-13 hugs purl
00:27.02id`~commit crime
00:28.10hyperChipmunk~commit tekkub
00:33.17kergoth`heh, ctags support for lua is -extremely- limited
00:33.24kergoth`someone should make it Suck Less(tm)
00:34.56CIA-1303tekkub * r523 10PerfectRaidTargets/ (Core.lua TargetFrame.lua):
00:34.56CIA-13PerfectRaidTargets - Fixed issues with player/pet target indicator anchoring
00:34.56CIA-13~commit
00:34.57purlHurray! More bugs!
00:36.42ckknight?
00:36.51ckknight~commit
00:36.52purlHurray! More bugs!
00:37.37Mikmaaha
00:37.44Mikma+h = haha
00:37.46id`Mikma: lets play
00:37.58id`Mikma: wow that is
00:38.13Mikmaid`: hehe, i think i will soon have the interest to play again
00:38.16id`should i stay at lv 19?
00:38.34id`i do have some defias armor so i could make a rogue twinkie instead
00:38.41Mikmaumm, don't think so, if you wanna play with us someday (alts)
00:38.50id`and
00:39.00id`i dont like redridge
00:39.07id`:P
00:39.12Mikmame neither but quests are good in there
00:39.22id`mm guess so :(
00:39.44id`questing it is..
00:39.49Tekkubgod fucking damnit
00:40.00Tekkubam I gonna have to repair FuFuFriends?
00:41.15kergoth`wasnt there just a release of the friends plugin? havent tried the latest version yet myself
00:41.19id`Used: 14MB Threshold: 16MB Increase:0KB
00:41.21id`gg
00:41.51kergoth`i was so happy when mine dropped below 30 on initial login :P
00:43.06Tekkublatest FuFuFrinds fucked up his update shit, he's forcing a friendslist update OnUpdate now
00:43.11TekkubI fixed it
00:43.13Tekkub:P
00:43.27Tekkubfixing GuildFu now...
00:43.46kergoth`put it somewhere where we can get to it. i'm lazy
00:43.47kergoth`:)
00:44.07TekkubI'll branch it in a min
00:50.18kergoth`cool
01:00.44CIA-1303tekkub * r524 10/branches/FuBar_GuildFu/: FuBar_GuildFu - Creating branch
01:01.08CIA-1303tekkub * r525 10/branches/FuBar_FriendsFu/: FuBar_FriendsFu - Creating branch
01:01.33Cairennwhere's Tem?
01:01.48Cairennhrm
01:02.15CIA-1303tekkub 07Tekkub * r526 10FuBar_GuildFu/ (7 files): FuBar_GuildFu (Branch) - Initial import (fixed update rate issues)
01:03.27CIA-1303tekkub * r527 10/branches/FuBar_FriendsFu/ (6 files): FuBar_FriendsFu (Branch) - Initial import (fixed update rate issues)
01:04.23clad|afkAnyone get a chance to try PR?
01:04.31clad|afkhyperChipmunk: You around?
01:04.36TekkubI will shortly clad
01:04.40hyperChipmunksup hoser
01:04.46hyperChipmunkjust got back from dinner
01:08.19clad|afkSo
01:08.23cladhaireSomeone
01:08.27cladhairetell me how bad this sounds?
01:08.27cladhaireAm I abrasive, yes.
01:08.27cladhaireDo I come off as thinking I'm superior about THIS SUBJECT in particular?  yes.  That's because I actually did some testing rather than just talking.
01:08.27cladhaireThe quote above is from one of my first respondes in this thread.
01:08.27cladhaireI hope we're done here.  You made some good points-- but this thread has served its userfulness.
01:09.00Cairennsounds absolutely fine to me
01:09.21cladhaire=)
01:09.22cladhairegood
01:09.28cladhairewhy do i fight with someone new each week
01:09.32cladhairewho's next weeks combatant?
01:09.32Cairennbut then again, I'm in an absolutely vile mood now, so probably not the best person's judgement to ask
01:10.10cladhaireaaw hun.. i love you =)
01:10.16cladhairewill you be around when I come to STCon Ottawa?
01:10.31Cairennwhen's that?
01:10.50cladhaireno idea =)
01:10.57Cairennlol, hard to answer then
01:11.00cladhairewhen Tom and I get off our asses and drive up =)
01:11.12TainNext week on the Iron Lua Chef!
01:11.16cladhaire=)
01:11.21cladhaireI don't like being right
01:11.30TainIron Lua Chef Cladhaire battles a new challenger!
01:11.32cladhairebut they always come at me with the cottage cheese of cuisine.
01:13.01Cairennbtw, thanks Clad
01:13.07cladhairewhyzzat?
01:13.16Cairennfor saying you luv me
01:13.22cladhaireI do.
01:13.26Cairennheh
01:13.32cladhaireLove for me is very important, and its important to tell people when they are important to you.
01:13.35Cairennglad someone does
01:13.41cladhaireI learned that a long time ago.. it was a tough lesson, but it was important to me.
01:15.35Cairennit is important
01:15.47Tekkubgee it's funny, he's already spending my money, what a surprize
01:15.55TainI like pie.
01:16.32Tekkubhe tells me way back when, "when you get a job you get to pay half of rent, I'll cover the rest, you save and whatever for school and shit"
01:16.55Tekkubnow it's "You take $100/month for yourself and put the rest towards bills"
01:17.01cladhaireTekkub: No offense meant, but is he a sugar daddy type?
01:17.17TekkubI'm not "NUHUH" and he's like "Fine, half of rent/utils"
01:17.28TainSo, lesson learned.  When you hook a function don't add code to call the original function multiple times in a loop in your hook code.  Accidentally of course. :)
01:17.32Tekkubno, he spends every cent he can that's all
01:17.39cladhaireTain: Lol =)
01:17.43Tekkubhe wants more of his own money to blow uselessly
01:17.52cladhairewhat does he spend it on
01:18.01cladhairemy roommate collects comic books and toys
01:18.07Tekkuband then he tacks the phone onto utils even tho it's HIS phone, I didn't want tho POS
01:18.19Tekkubfood and shit
01:18.38Tekkubnothing even useful or collectable, it's always wasted
01:19.24Tekkuband now that he bought his stupid truck he's not got spending money
01:19.31Tekkubbut in the end it ain't my problem
01:19.35Tainhah I lived for three years with someone who was going to pay half the bills when she got a job.
01:19.48cladhairehe has a truck?
01:19.49TekkubI'll pay my half of bills directly when they're due and I don't give a fuck what he does
01:19.50cladhaireboo
01:19.59TekkubSUV/truck/whatever
01:20.13Tekkubhe's a moron when it comes to spending money
01:20.28cladhaireboo
01:20.34Tekkubhence why we don't share an acct anymore and I pay my share of bills directly
01:20.39cladhaireI'm a great boyfriend.
01:21.40TainMe too!  Hrm.  Funny how I don't have anyone to back that statement up though.
01:21.50cladhaireI'd do you Tain
01:21.57cladhaire~lick Tain
01:21.58purlACTION licks Tain *SHLUUURRRRPPP*
01:22.00Tainhaha
01:22.05cladhairedid you start a new job?
01:22.06cladhairehow is it?
01:22.16TainUh yeah I did
01:22.25TainAnd uh.. then I quit it.
01:22.28cladhairelol
01:22.29cladhairehow was it
01:22.30cladhaire??
01:22.36cladhairei mean not good, but tell me a story
01:23.00TainActually it was a combination of related things, not the job itself.
01:23.16cladhairethe job itself wasn't too bad?
01:23.42TainI don't know, it would probably have been ok.  I did start out right away having doubts about the manager I was working for.  
01:24.05TainBUt that's the sort of thing that may have been a wait and see, hard to judge someone entirely that quickly.
01:24.18cladhaireIf you have a feeling like that about your manager, its typically right =/
01:24.24id`Q: can i create a frame, setpoint its points around some visor buttons, parent the visor buttons to the frame and then use visor to move the whole bunch? (so i have a correct LEFT/RIGHT/TOP/BOTTOM to anchor with)
01:24.26*** join/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce1.disney.com)
01:25.05TainBut it really comes down to two main things, not wanting to commute an hour+ to work anymore is one.  I'm in RI/MA and all the jobs are in Boston.
01:25.07cladhaireid`: Yeah, I do that all the time, but I prefer to use a button itself as my parent/anchor.
01:25.22cladhaireTain: East Coast FTW!  But yeah, I understand
01:25.38cladhairemy boyfriend has a 1 hour commute from Syracuse to Rome, NY each way this summer.. at least its only an internship
01:26.20TainI've done it for the last 10 years, for the most part.
01:26.28cladhaireto Boston?
01:26.31TainExcept for a 2 year stint working remotely when I moved to California.
01:26.39cladhaireSo you're looking for something else atm?
01:26.42TainThat was the life, working from home.
01:27.34TainWell that's the other part of it.
01:28.34TainI've been doing mainly WinTel server infrastructure support.  And it just hit me all of a sudden that I simply don't want to be doing that sort of critical server break/fix anymore.
01:28.44cladhaireWell, I wish you the best.. if I hear of anything, I'll apply myself-- and then I'll get you in =)
01:29.10cladhaireWintel is always break/fix, no maintenance =(
01:30.20TainOf course I also worked my ass off these years to where today I'm completely debt-free, my car is paid off, I have really no bills except for insurance.
01:30.27TainSo... maybe I'll just take the summer off. ;)
01:30.37cladhairewow.. good for you
01:30.41cladhairethats about where i am
01:30.47cladhairebut my boyfriend is still here, so i dont hate my job THAT much yet
01:30.49cladhairegive me a few months =)
01:30.54cladhairewe'll code all day long.. tag team style =)
01:31.21TainI actually was considering taking one of the MS Dev Cert bootcamps for the hell of it.
01:32.03cladhaireIt woudln't hurt.. peopel seem to .. want that-- which is retarded imo
01:32.49TainI definitely put it firmly in the category of, "This can't hurt me."  Not so much into the category of, "This will help me."  :)
01:33.00CIA-1303ckknight * r528 10FuBar/FuBarTooltip.lua: FuBar - detached tooltip font size adjustment now uses a slider.
01:33.10cladhaire=0
01:33.14cladhaires/0/)/
01:34.19TainThat's actually one of the things I realized, doing server support there's never any sort of feeling of accomplishment of having created something.  
01:34.29Mikmaasdfg
01:34.34TainThe best thing you can say is if you do your job well no one eill ever know who you are.
01:34.34Mikmas/asdfg/hello
01:34.51Mikmait needs / at the end too? :P
01:34.53ckknightforgot the /
01:34.57Mikmas/asdfg/hello/
01:34.59ckknightyou're an asshole
01:35.01hyperChipmunktoo late
01:35.05ckknights/asshole/fine gentleman/
01:35.06hyperChipmunkyou only get one shot
01:35.06Mikmahaha
01:35.18ckknightdamn
01:35.29Mikmagotta remember that on next time. the irssi addon i used ages ago didn't require / at the end
01:35.42ckknighthrm
01:39.04CIA-1303tekkub * r529 10PerfectRaidTargets/TargetFrame.lua: PerfectRaidTargets - Forget to remove a debug ><
01:39.50CodayusHmm
01:40.45cladhaireAce 0.2-Beta submitted to WoWi
01:40.46cladhaire*gasp*
01:40.51ckknight0.2?
01:40.58hyperChipmunkwe're going backwards yo
01:41.10CodayusOoh, I'll test.
01:41.34ckknightokay, I want to write a better dropdown implementation
01:41.41ckknightand I need:
01:41.42cladhaireerr
01:41.42ckknighta name
01:41.48ckknightideas for the API
01:41.49cladhairePerfectRaid 0.2-Beta =)
01:41.55ckknightlol
01:42.06cladhaireckknight: Venetian Blinds should be the name
01:42.09cladhairethat's all i know.
01:42.13cladhaireperhaps "Wood Slats"
01:42.30ckknightI read wood sluts
01:42.32ckknightanyone else?
01:42.36cladhaire=)
01:43.21Codayuscladhaire: Is PR on the svn updated?
01:43.42ckknightTekkub, you're good with names
01:43.51cladhaireCodayus: Yes sir.
01:43.55ckknightit'll end in Lib, cause it'll be an embedded library
01:43.55CodayusNifty.
01:44.04cladhaireckknight: OMG YOU HATE MY NAMES
01:44.15ckknightyes?
01:44.19Tekkubwhatnow?
01:44.33TainDropdown menu API?
01:44.33ckknightTekkub, I want a better dropdown implementation, gonna make an embedded lib
01:44.49ckknightyea, only not limited to 32 lines or 3 levels
01:45.17Tekkubhrm...
01:45.21Tekkubdropdown...
01:45.24Tekkubdrop...
01:45.27Tekkubfragile..
01:45.31TekkubHandleWithCare
01:45.45ckknightno, probably something that involves "menu"
01:46.10TekkubSuperValueMenu
01:46.19ckknightlol?
01:46.42Tekkubno likey?
01:46.51ckknightnot that one
01:46.58Tekkubhrm...
01:47.06TekkubChisdrensMenu?
01:47.12TekkubDessertMenu!
01:47.16TainExpand-o-matic lib
01:47.30Mikmaa'la carte
01:47.43Tekkuboh good one milk, use that
01:48.00ckknightwhat's Chisdren?
01:48.14Tekkublern2readtypo l == s
01:48.23ckknighthow did you mix those two letters up?
01:48.29ckknightthey're on opposite sides of the keyboard...
01:48.33Tekkubthey're right next ot each other
01:48.45TainBeen hitting the Children's valium.
01:48.56ckknightthe Chisdren's valium
01:49.07Tekkubno it's vasium
01:49.29Tainhmm... dropdown... drop.. EunuchLib!
01:51.01TekkubI like ALaCarte
01:51.14TekkubaLaCarte
01:51.18ckknightzomg
01:51.36Tekkubwhat your god?
01:51.40ckknightafter my propaganda message on FuBar, I went from 43 5/5 votes to 123
01:51.43ckknightI'm on top!
01:51.49ckknightbeating titan by 39!
01:51.52cladhairelol
01:51.55cladhaireVOTE FOR PERFECTRAID
01:51.58cladhaireits even beta =)
01:51.59Tekkubpropaganda?
01:52.08TainVote Quimby!
01:52.36TekkubBTW Boss, Dura's event handling is still a mess, but I don't care just thought you might
01:52.44ckknightit is?
01:52.46ckknightI thought I fixed it
01:52.49ckknightwith your advice
01:52.50ckknightgah
01:52.58Tekkubyou fixed like 1/3 of it
01:53.15Tekkubit still fires off in combat
01:53.22Tekkuband bags are... scary...
01:53.34Tekkub>< you gotta be careful with bag scanning
01:53.57Tekkubbut not to fear, I'm gonna make SEBags/Equip/Bank embeddable
01:54.54TainI met someone who was pretty embeddable.
01:55.13TekkubI've seen a lot of bears I'd love to have embed me
01:55.30TainNever at a library though.
01:55.51cladhaireTekkub: What attracts you to bearS?
01:55.55cladhaire*shrug*
01:55.56Tekkubfur
01:55.59Tekkubjiggle
01:56.00TainHoney
01:56.09TekkubI actually don't like honey
01:56.16TainOh no that's what Tekkub uses to attract the bears.
01:56.19Tekkuboh clad did I tell you?
01:56.55TekkubI was watching Colbert last night... it seems that not only does PBS push the gay agenda, they also push the bear agenda
01:56.56cladhaireTekkub: No?
01:57.01cladhaireO RLY?
01:57.04Tekkubyea
01:57.12cladhaireI saw Margaret Cho last night.. did you know she's likes girls now too?
01:57.13TekkubI don't know why he hates bears so much
01:57.17cladhaireShe's thin, and hilarious
01:57.25Tekkubgee, big surprise
01:57.32TainOh I didn't watch Ted Kennedy on The Daily Show!
01:57.34Tekkubshe un-chubbed?
01:57.40cladhaireit was CNY (Central New York) Pride.. apparently.
01:57.46TekkubKennedy was horrible
01:57.48cladhaireTekkub: Yeah.. she looked really good.
01:58.07cladhaireTekkub: It was a very anti-bush anti-christian coalitiion politically fueled show.
01:58.23cladhaireOk.. I need colors
01:58.24Tekkubhe wouldn't shut the fuck up, he seems to not get that a talk show isn't a campaign speach, he's actually supposed to converse, not dominate the chat
01:58.28cladhaireand Tekkub, you're good at them
01:58.29ckknightis there any way to tell if a shift/alt/ctrl key has been pressed without checking with OnUpdate?
01:58.35TainOf course Kennedy is horrible, that's why I wanted to see it!
01:58.37cladhaireckknight: IsAltKeyDown()
01:58.43Tekkubcolors?
01:58.45cladhairebut queuing it, no.
01:58.47ckknightwithout OnUpdate, cladhaire
01:58.52TainNope.
01:58.58cladhaireTekkub: I need colors for Poison, Magic, Curse and Disease
01:59.03TainAt least I wasn't able to find a solution when I was looking previously.
01:59.05TainSo if you do!  Let me know.
01:59.16cladhaireI was thinking sickly green for Poison, Blue for Magic, Purple for Curse and Brown for Disease
01:59.21cladhairebut i dont know what shades.
01:59.27TekkubBoss, you mean you mant shift events?
01:59.36Tekkubinstead of just the query?
01:59.39CodayusHmm, is there anyone on Draka that could invite me to a raid group, by any chance?  :-)
01:59.51Tekkublike SPECIAL_SHIFTKEY_PRESSED ?
01:59.52ckknightTekkub, right
02:00.11TekkubI smell a SE module starting...
02:00.29TainI wanted something to do that.
02:00.51TainSo I could have hotkeys that showed visible only when you pressed ALT (or whatever) and disappeared when you let go.
02:01.03ckknightright
02:01.20ckknightor have my detached tooltips unlock when you press alt or something, then relock when it's let go
02:01.42Tekkubokey fine, I'll amke that my first SEEmbed :)
02:03.54ckknightyay
02:06.03Mikmaoh man .xml is hard
02:06.12ckknightmeh
02:06.13ckknightI don't like it
02:06.16ckknightwhy you using it?
02:07.28Tekkubso ponderance....
02:07.38Mikmai need to do some frames
02:07.51Tekkubshould I work in something in SEEmbed to fire eventsto non-ace addons or not?
02:08.36ckknightnah
02:08.40ckknightmaybe put it in later
02:08.46ckknightbut for now, it'd be fine to be ace specific
02:08.48Tekkubif not each module can be an independant embed... if so I'm gonna want a core to handle the events....
02:08.57Tekkubace-ey it is!
02:08.57CIA-1303cladhaire * r530 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidLocals.lua):
02:08.57CIA-13PerfectRaid:
02:08.58CIA-13* Changed the color scheme for debuffs. Still a work in progress.
02:08.58CIA-13* Resolved an issue with frames not being hidden when people leave the raid
02:09.09Mikmaand for some reason i now get 2x load-messages in chat
02:09.11Mikmainteresting
02:09.22cladhaireMikma: Are you running svn Cladhaire branch ace?
02:09.54Mikmacladhaire: hmm nope i think it's the release version, but this is non-ace addon i'm making
02:10.03cladhaireMikma: Oh okay =)
02:10.59Mikmareason: i need to set background for frame. then i need to load the background for new frames i'm creating in .xml, and for some reason it loads OnLoad for 2 times
02:11.09Mikmainherits= is evil
02:17.13ThianaHow can you check if you have an actual target after a TargetByName()?
02:17.35ThianaUnitName()?
02:17.47hyperChipmunkI use UnitName
02:18.14ThianaThanks.
02:19.35hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
02:19.40hyperChipmunk/script if (string.sub(UnitName('target'),0,11) == 'Magma Totem' ) then PetAttack(); end;
02:19.44hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
02:19.57hyperChipmunkkeke
02:20.05hyperChipmunkfraxin shaman
02:23.23CodayusHmmm
02:23.38CodayusIs there an AceHeal plugin for PerfectRaid?
02:23.52CIA-1303ckknight * r531 10FuBar/ (5 files): FuBar - Added a warning to remove a panel with plugins on it.
02:23.54hyperChipmunklol
02:24.02cladhaireCodayus: No, but I could probably write one =)
02:24.04hyperChipmunkdude, there's not even a perfectraid yet
02:24.22hyperChipmunkit's still kinda blemished =)
02:24.38CodayusThat'd be nifty.  I just can't play without AceHeal.  *cry*
02:24.40cladhairehyperChipmunk: Says who?
02:24.46cladhairehyperChipmunk: Are you using 0.2-Beta?
02:25.05hyperChipmunkoh if it has a version number, it must be Perfect
02:25.11CodayusShouldn't be hard, since I'm sure YOU of all people will have added the approrpiate clickcasting hooks....
02:25.14Codayus:-D
02:25.19cladhaireCodayus: PerfectRaidCustomClick = function(button, unit) AceHeal:OnClick(button, unit) end
02:25.21cladhaireCodayus: That's it =)
02:25.31CodayusHeh
02:28.50hyperChipmunk~/rl
02:28.56hyperChipmunkoops
02:30.27CodayusHmmm
02:30.33CodayusWhat do the arrows mean in PR?
02:31.40CodayusSmall ">" symbols to the left of the names, to be precise.
02:32.19cladhaireselections
02:32.22cladhaireyou can highlight a group
02:32.23cladhaireor a class
02:32.31cladhaireand target will always show up as a yellow >
02:32.41cladhairecheck /praid select
02:32.42cladhairefor your options
02:34.54ckknightokay, is there an official place with which to request FuBar plugins?
02:35.24Codayushmmm
02:36.26ckknightcause I'm tired of people filing feature requests to me
02:37.13TainCreate one.  Make a thread and point people there.  They will keep doing it regardless, but you could have somewhere to direct them that way.
02:37.35ckknightworks for me
02:37.35CodayusTwo questions.  Does sorting by class not work in PR?
02:37.43CodayusWhat is the point of sleecting people?
02:38.58Tekkubselect if for "you heal group x"
02:39.10Tekkub"you heal the huntres"
02:39.49hyperChipmunkthat's one everyone should have on
02:40.14Codayusah, so it's just a way to visually hilight certain people for your own information?
02:40.55cladhaireI need to parse all combinatinos of "text 1 0.75 0.5 1"
02:40.58cladhaireanyone have any suggestions?
02:41.00cladhaire?
02:42.35ckknightwhat do you mean?
02:43.15TainWell, Ace.ParseWords() will parse it on space into a table of items.
02:44.14cladhairei'm looking for a single regexp that will give them back to me as r,g,b,a
02:44.26cladhairewithout making a table and using ParseWords =)
02:44.54TainOh but it's always going to be in that format of text r g b a  ?
02:45.08cladhaireits always going to be "text num num num num"
02:45.16cladhairebut num will be 1, 1.0, 0.75, etc.
02:45.21cladhaireso it has to be kinda robust.
02:45.54TainAh that's easy.
02:46.14Codayuscladhaire: Does sort by class not work in PR?
02:46.18ckknight%d+%.?%d-
02:46.34cladhaireCodayus: it should
02:46.44cladhaireCodayus: Works fine fo rme.
02:46.55TainI have to go consult the Captain on a solution.
02:46.58CodayusInterface\AddOns\PerfectRaid\PerfectRaid.lua 353:attempt to compare string with nil
02:47.44cladhaire%d+%.?%d* works, but only so far.
02:47.49CodayusSort by group works...sort by raid works...srot by groupclass does not.
02:48.17cladhaireCodayus: Hrm.. they all work for me =(  
02:48.30cladhairecan you /dump p:get("Sort") for me?
02:48.30CodayusHrhm
02:49.03Codayus[1] = "groupname"
02:50.16cladhaireCan you try updating to svn current?
02:50.18cladhairehrm
02:51.04Codayusk, updated...I'll reload my UI when the fights over.  :-P
02:51.33FryGuyis there a guide to making bossmods with bigwigs?
02:51.36cladhairereloading will fix it
02:51.40cladhairehope you run into it again
02:51.56CodayusOh?
02:51.57CodayusHmm
02:52.07CodayusWell, it works now, anyhow.  I'll let you know if it breaks again
02:53.05Tainmmm Screaming Yellow Zonkers.
02:54.30cladhaireI should PVP
02:54.34cladhairei could get some good testing in.
02:58.38CodayusHmm.  PerfectRaidTargets is confusing me.  What does "Tank: 0" mean on the top line?
02:58.58Codayusuh...hmm
02:59.25CodayusUh, does PRT have any documentation?  :-(
03:00.31cladhairePRT, no =)
03:01.40CodayusHmm, so many numbers...colors....but what do they mean...
03:02.38CodayusAlso, when someone join the raid, the sorting gets messed up and has to be reset.
03:05.35Tekkubmany? bullshit
03:05.44Tekkubyou want documentation? here
03:06.02CodayusHey, I get confused easily.  :-(
03:06.05Tekkub"> 2 < Mobname |###   | 60%"
03:06.34Tekkub> = my targ, 2 = number of other raid/party members targetting, name, hp, hp%
03:06.40FryGuydoes PRT have TT?
03:06.42Tekkub* < = pet target
03:06.51Tekkubkinda fry
03:06.55FryGuyi noticed a wierd thing with it though
03:06.57CodayusAh, sortedd by tank number?
03:06.58Tekkubthat's in the colors :)
03:07.05Codayus`what DO the colors mean?
03:07.05FryGuyif I move it right, it clips the window
03:07.11TekkubCOLORS! :
03:07.12FryGuyno i mean targettarget
03:07.17FryGuynot main tank target
03:07.54TekkubDark red: Marked not engaged.  Red: Marked, engaged.  Yellow: Controlled (sheep, trap, blah blah blah)
03:08.24Tekkubwhite, engaged not marked/CC'd (if tank, the tank is his target's target)
03:08.46Tekkuboffwhite: tank, not target of his target (he's not tanking what he's fighting)
03:08.54Tekkubgrey: dead or not evgaged
03:09.05Codayuswhat about pink?
03:09.12Tekkubgreen: friendly and targetted by a tank (doesn't show non-tank friendly targets
03:09.20Tekkubwhat pink?
03:09.21hyperChipmunkpink means the target is a sissy girly man
03:09.27hyperChipmunkand plays with barbie dolls
03:09.33Codayusstuff mostly seems to be pink.  >.<
03:09.40hyperChipmunki.e. if it's tekkub
03:09.45Tekkubdo you mean offwhite?
03:09.53Tekkubit's actually a purple
03:09.57Tekkub:P
03:10.10CodayusDude, one of us has gotta be colorblind then...  :-P
03:10.16CodayusOkay, right...
03:10.26cladhaireCodayus: What about PerfectRaid ?
03:10.28cladhairei feel lonely
03:10.42Tekkubduptank = {1,0.7,1},
03:10.44FryGuy/comfort cladhaire
03:10.49Tekkubdo the math, not pink
03:10.52CodayusPerfectRaid is uber...  :-)
03:11.01FryGuyit says not to use it :p
03:11.16hyperChipmunk"It's light red!"
03:11.31Tekkubpink would be like {1,0.7,0.7}
03:11.42hyperChipmunk"Donut, there's a name for that...it's 'pink'"
03:11.56CodayusHmm, I'd kinda like PRT to display the name and maybe the health of the tank...not just the mob
03:12.15hyperChipmunkit's not PerfectRaidTank
03:12.16Tekkubhover for the tank's name
03:12.25Tekkuband no, it's not PRTank
03:12.42Codayus:-(
03:12.55cladhairehehe
03:13.30TekkubI honestly Don't see a reason for ToT shit, it'll show you what tanks are NOT being hit
03:13.46Tekkubif someone other than a tank is getting hit, they deserve to die!
03:14.11Tekkuband ToT adds a whole nother set of frames to display and maintain :P
03:14.37TekkubI _might_ add a percentage at the end for ToT, but not a whole evtra frame
03:14.54hyperChipmunkTek, can you include Target of Target of Target of Target of Target of Target to PRT?  It's pretty useless without it
03:15.05CodayusToT...no, don't need that.
03:15.12CodayusAll I really care about is - hey, is that tank about ti die?
03:15.22CodayusFrankly, as a healer, that's MORE useful to me than the mobs health.  :-P
03:15.25hyperChipmunkI just can't see a raid frame mod ever being used w/o ToToToToToToT
03:15.39Tekkubokey Cod, how bout then % for tanks at the very end
03:16.23Tekkubsee that's exactly what I'm trying to minimize, all that "target of" frames... PRT is trying to just show every known mob, that's all
03:16.23CodayusThat'd be fine.  Take name...yeah, I can mouse over it, and who cares about names?  They're just meat shields.
03:16.27CodayusBut a heath % would be great.
03:16.36Tekkubokey Cod :)
03:16.39CodayusYay
03:17.19TekkubI might end up making PRToT tho as seperte... just show all known targetted units... perhaps minus tanks...
03:17.28CodayusAs for PerfectRaid - it's excellent.  I've got it set to sort by class, with my group selected.  That's wonderful.
03:17.38TainOh cladhaire it's not exactly elegant, but if you're always going to have the same format on that text num num num num you could do something like (%S+)%s+(%S+)%s+(%S+)%s+(%S+)%s+(%S+) to capture based on spaces.
03:17.38Tekkubactually, that will be a totally diff mod
03:18.03Tekkuba mod that shows players that are targetted but aren't specified as "tanks"
03:18.08CodayusMight sort by group, with warriors slected instead...hmm.
03:18.11Tekkuband I'll call it AggroMagnet!
03:18.39hyperChipmunkwill that include ToToToToToToToT?
03:18.57CodayusTekkub: It'll take me a while to get used to the colors....
03:18.59cladhaireTain: I went with (%a+)%s*(%d*%.?%d*)%s*(%d*%.?%d*)%s*(%d*%.?%d*)%s*(%d*%.?%d*)
03:19.00Tekkubstupid hyperactive critter
03:19.09hyperChipmunkI want to catch the hunter that's bandaging his pet
03:20.59Codayusweee, praid+prt = uber.  Going to go test it in MC in about 30 minutes.
03:21.04Tekkubno it won't cod :)
03:21.12Tekkubred: mark
03:21.19Tekkubyellow: no attacky!
03:21.30Tekkubwhite: I'm the tank!
03:21.40Tekkuboffwhite: I wish I was the tank!
03:21.46Tekkubgrey: meh
03:21.48CIA-1303cladhaire * r532 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidLocals.lua):
03:21.48CIA-13PerfectRaid:
03:21.48CIA-13* Added a /praid backdrop command, which accepts two initial arguments, followed by r g b a seperated by spaces.
03:21.48CIA-13* Sets the backdrop of the statusbar on each frame, or the overall PerfectRaid frame.
03:21.49CIA-13* Example usage: /praid backdrop frame 1.0 1.0 0 0.75 will make the backdrop of the frame yellow, with 0.75 alpha.
03:22.10hyperChipmunkooh backdrop $
03:22.16cladhairelol =)
03:23.43hyperChipmunkthe yellow > doesn't clear when you change targets
03:23.51CIA-1303cladhaire * r533 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Removed a debug message from :Select()
03:24.02cladhairehyperChipmunk: In what situation, cause it should.
03:24.13cladhaireOh,
03:24.13hyperChipmunkoh
03:24.14cladhaireso it didn't =)
03:24.18cladhairei can fix that
03:24.59cladhairenice small fix =)
03:25.25hyperChipmunkright now it identifies "people you've targetted since last /praid reset"
03:25.28hyperChipmunk=P
03:25.38CIA-1303cladhaire * r534 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Target selector will now clear when changing targets.
03:25.39hyperChipmunknot exactly useful
03:25.48hyperChipmunkty
03:25.52cladhairehehe
03:25.59cladhaireI wanted to have Target of Target.. but I dont think there's a good way to do it.
03:26.01hyperChipmunkoh dats beauty
03:26.01cladhaireI'm still playing.
03:26.18hyperChipmunkO-o
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03:30.41cladhaireTekkub: How were you thinking to handle this name scaling thing
03:30.42cladhaire?
03:30.54Tekkubhuh?
03:31.14cladhairehaha nvm
03:31.52cladhairewith making the user name not truncate.. by making itbigger using anchors
03:32.09Tekkubyea, neat eh?
03:32.20hyperChipmunkooh, I like the black behind the bars
03:32.25Tekkubalso fixed the "1..." font issue
03:34.28cladhaireTekkub: What'd you do for both of them?
03:35.48TekkubI made a total duplicate of a unit frame and hid it, positioned it up top...
03:35.56Tekkubit's got the default vals
03:36.03cladhaireAnd you anchor to that?
03:36.05cladhairethat's a good idea
03:36.15cladhairebetter than manually doing it all.
03:36.16Tekkubevery "real" unit frame anchors it's elements to the elements in the frame above
03:36.28Tekkubthe first anchors to the hidden
03:36.44Tekkubthen to change the name width I just change the hidden header
03:36.52Codayuscladhaire: Probelem - can't left click to select people in PR.
03:37.04Tekkubthe others auto-adjust to fit the default values :)
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03:37.52Tekkubyou gotta be careful with empty text frames tho, like my ">" one at the start
03:38.14Tekkubthat had to be anchored to a text frame in the unit that would never be empty
03:40.01Tekkubokey, time to test SEEmbedKeys :)
03:40.16cladhaireCodayus: Do you have WatchDog installed
03:40.18cladhaire?
03:40.28CodayusNo....Aceheal though.  Which I assume is the culperit
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03:41.02cladhairedid you set the click-casting i told you to?
03:41.06CodayusYep
03:41.06cladhairecause it overrides ALL native click s=)
03:41.11cladhaireso you'd need to set leftclick to targetUnit
03:41.12CodayusYep
03:41.15cladhaireor however AceHeal handles it.
03:41.33CodayusAh, good idea.
03:42.36cladhaire=)
03:47.20cladhaireTekkub: I took a different method, but it should be the same overhead
03:47.53Tekkub:)
03:50.50CodayusHmm, targetUnit doesn't work...hmm
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03:51.25CodayusLeft clicking on DUF unit frames works...hmm.
03:51.31cladhaireCodayus: TargetUnit()
03:51.33cladhairenot targetUnit
03:51.40cladhaireI'm not sure how aceheal works tho
03:51.42cladhairetbh
03:52.08CodayusOkay, now that gives me the yellow arrow in PR.
03:52.13CodayusBut doesn't actually select the unit.
03:52.46hyperChipmunkhow do you make PRT work anyway
03:53.00hyperChipmunkit's not on by default in any noticeable manner
03:53.33hyperChipmunkoh wait there it is
03:53.38hyperChipmunkah so that's what that window was
03:53.49cladhaireCodayus: ... it ... should
03:53.51hyperChipmunkit has text now =D
03:53.53CodayusHmmmm
03:54.13cladhaireCodayus: disable the click-casting interface and it'll work again.. PerfectRaidCustomClick = nil
03:54.17TemCodayus: 2 things.  1: Do you realise how redundant "DUF unitframes" is?  2: WTF are you doing with DUF loaded?
03:54.28CodayusI like DUF.  :-)
03:54.28hyperChipmunkx=
03:54.36hyperChipmunk+b Codayus
03:54.47Tem~slap Codayus
03:54.49purlACTION slaps Codayus, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
03:54.49CIA-1303ckknight * r535 10FuBar/FuBarUtils.lua: FuBar - changed dropdown menu add spacer logic.
03:55.00hyperChipmunkooh
03:55.49hyperChipmunkone day, I'll have a mod that works
03:56.00CodayusYep, without the CustomClick...it works.
03:56.00hyperChipmunkand then I'll be able to do commits again
03:56.18Temcladhaire: what are those numbers in the screenshot?
03:56.24Temcladhaire: they are ugly ><
03:56.40hyperChipmunkgroupnum
03:56.43hyperChipmunk?
03:56.52Temwhatever they are, can I turn em off?
03:56.59hyperChipmunkyes, they're not on by default even
03:57.07Tem*joy*
03:57.11hyperChipmunkI need it for directing battle
03:57.48hyperChipmunkbe nice to have a little line dividing the different major sections of the grouped sorts
03:58.20hyperChipmunkyea, but you don't have to organize groups over the span of an entire zone either
03:58.57CodayusWhen someone joines/leaves the raid, the sort order messes up
03:59.20hyperChipmunkarathi basin is impossible without group segregation
03:59.21hyperChipmunkwell
03:59.25hyperChipmunkif you want to win
03:59.38Tekkubwewt, SEEmbedKeys works!
03:59.42hyperChipmunk=D
03:59.56hyperChipmunkwill PR ever get manabars?
04:00.15cladhairehyperChipmunk: No
04:00.15TekkubNEVAR!
04:00.19hyperChipmunk=\
04:00.20cladhairehyperChipmunk: There's no need
04:00.26cladhaireand UNIT_MANA is a horrible horrible event.
04:00.32Tem*glee*
04:00.33Tekkubit should have a threshold setting to set when "Mana" is shown tho :)
04:00.34hyperChipmunkthere is certainly a need
04:00.35cladhairehyperChipmunk: You can set the low mana threshold.. what more do you need?
04:00.43cladhairehyperChipmunk: Whats the need?
04:00.43TemCatalyst is going to pass Decursive in downloads tonight
04:00.56TekkubSweets Tem :)
04:00.58Temcladhaire: for the interested
04:01.06cladhaireTem:  They can use another mod =)
04:01.18Temcladhaire: I don't *need* to anyone's health in the raid, but I like to
04:01.23Temcladhaire: same goes for their mana
04:01.40hyperChipmunkI send support units from node to node on an individual basis; if someone is in need of a breather, I send someone else
04:01.44TemI just have to spam frostbolt until the big ugly clown gives me his purple toys
04:01.57Tekkubyou know... if it were done this is how I'd like to see it......
04:02.02hyperChipmunkhard to know the state of casters without their mana bars
04:02.18TemhyperChipmunk: that's what the low mana indicator is for
04:02.27TekkubUnitName |    #####|####    |
04:02.45TemhyperChipmunk: it may not be an option *yet* but I'm sure you will be able to adjust the percentage at which they are labled "low"
04:02.49hyperChipmunkdoesn't tell me if their mana is going up or down at the time
04:03.25Tekkubmy experience is that in combat it goes down, out of it goes up
04:03.35Tekkubif you deviate from that, well you wipe
04:04.23Tekkubclad: I think mana bars could be pulled off kinda nifty-ly if the bars decrease towards the center
04:04.40cladhaireI'll just put mana bars for MANA USERS only below the health bars
04:04.46cladhairethere's plenty of room for a few pixels =)
04:04.54Tekkubit'd be a very intuitve display, and not have big gaps between the HP/MP bars
04:05.12cladhaireTekkub: Not sure i can picture what you're saying.
04:05.15hyperChipmunkall it really needs is a single blue pixel at the bottom
04:05.19TekkubI don't like the under displays ><
04:05.29hyperChipmunkor in the middle
04:05.29cladhairehyperChipmunk: Thats all I'm thinking.
04:05.39cladhairewhat do you mean in the middle?
04:05.40Tekkubclad: HP bar shrinks to the right instead of left
04:05.49TekkubMP bar net to it shrinks right
04:05.53Tekkubso like...
04:06.03Tekkub|     ##|####    |
04:06.11Temgross
04:06.15Tekkub|   #####|##       |
04:06.23hyperChipmunklol
04:06.39Tem"So I didn't know unused frames were not garbage collected. Was it so hard to tell me about it when we began to discuss this subject ?"
04:06.41Tem...
04:06.47Tem*facepalm*
04:06.50ckknightdoes anyone have any idea why DurabilityFu goes to 100% for some people?
04:06.52Tekkublol, yea Tem, we know
04:07.08ckknightI mean, I set the owner, and before each scantt:Set*, I do scantt:ClearLines()
04:07.32cladhaireTekkub: I can have two options, and do it both ways optionally
04:07.33Temoh cladhaire, I've been meaning to ask you this; are you a drama queen?
04:07.33Tekkubif you set the owner correctly you only should need to do it once
04:07.36cladhaire<PROTECTED>
04:07.44cladhaireTem: Not at all, why do you ask?
04:07.51Tem*facepalm*
04:08.02hyperChipmunkif you don't want to waste any space, just make it the center pixel of the bar, like the old eq xp bar
04:08.03Templease infer sarcasm when needed
04:08.11cladhaire=)
04:08.13cladhaireI did
04:08.15cladhaire:P
04:08.21cladhairei took the smiley out at the last minute
04:08.28Tekkubhe's reading "That thread"
04:08.32cladhairehyperChipmunk: OOOH you mean overlay it on the bar?
04:08.35cladhairein the cetner?
04:08.37cladhairei kinda like that idea =)
04:08.39hyperChipmunkyea
04:08.45TemI was stressed out earlier because of that thread
04:09.00cladhaireGive me an average long name that should be displayed in PR
04:09.02TemI think if I had looked into the mirrow I'd have found a bulging vein somewhere
04:09.05Tekkuboverlap them! mana shrinks right, HP to left
04:09.06cladhaireis Cladhaire average?
04:09.07hyperChipmunkMynithrosil
04:09.11hyperChipmunkdoesn't fit
04:09.15Tekkubcenter overlap is.. uh... purple?
04:09.22hyperChipmunkblue?
04:09.27cladhaireblue.
04:09.30cladhairei'll look at it
04:09.31cladhairejuyst not tonight
04:09.32hyperChipmunkdude, clad
04:09.35Tekkubblue and green make what color?
04:09.38Tekkubcyan?
04:09.40hyperChipmunklook at the raid you're in now
04:09.44cladhaireTekkub: um.. 1.0 alpha
04:09.48cladhairehyperChipmunk: Yeah, what about it
04:09.56cladhaireTekkub:  It wouldn't be transparent at all
04:09.57hyperChipmunk3 names that don't fit
04:10.03cladhairehyperChipmunk: So? =)
04:10.11Temblue and green make the color the hyperChipmunk's name's hash corresponds to in my xChat settings, Tekkub
04:10.15Tekkubyea that'd suck no transparency
04:10.23cladhairetoggle the /praid truncate optino that you don't have
04:10.25cladhaireTekkub: Why so?
04:10.33hyperChipmunkdie
04:10.39Tekkubwith my overlap idea :P
04:11.01cladhaireO.o
04:11.02Temcladhaire: is that option in your current version?
04:11.09cladhaireTem: non-commited, yeah
04:11.19Tekkubyou could do side-by-side and shrink away from the center
04:11.21Temdo it
04:11.28Temcommit now bitch
04:11.34TemI'm about to get into my wsg
04:11.36Tekkubthen "big black nothing" == wipe!
04:11.40cladhairehyperChipmunk: Your name is now the basis for the width of the frames
04:11.41TemI want my praid to be perfect
04:11.44hyperChipmunkwoo
04:11.46hyperChipmunk<#
04:11.49hyperChipmunk<3
04:12.07hyperChipmunkI like the black backgrounds too btw
04:12.12CIA-1303cladhaire * r536 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidLocals.lua):
04:12.12CIA-13PerfectRaid:
04:12.12CIA-13* Bunch of changes
04:12.12CIA-13* Added /praid truncate which toggles truncation of the name field.
04:12.13Tekkubactually I like that one best... HP shrink left, MP shrink right
04:12.39cladhaireTekkub: I don't like that one.. it makes the hp bar smaller, which i dont want to do.
04:12.39hyperChipmunkthe puke one?
04:12.52hyperChipmunkcool, they all fit now
04:12.58Tekkubno you could do the same size if you want
04:13.09TemTekkub: does PRT have slash commands?
04:13.11Tekkubor half, hell give an option!
04:13.14hyperChipmunkyou could make a player named Mmmmmmmmmmmm
04:13.22hyperChipmunkand make it that width; that'd be the absolute maximum, I thnk
04:13.26hyperChipmunkmaybe w's
04:13.28Tekkubactually... there you go... give lots of options...
04:13.39cladhairehyperChipmunk: I don't want it that big.. I was using W's.. but now I use your username as the default.
04:13.41cladhaireholy shit.
04:13.48hyperChipmunkther'es a dude on our server named Lamanamanume
04:13.51cladhaireI dont even know how to measure the memory usage for this mod.
04:14.12Tekkubside-by-side or stacked/overlap, shirnk direction, and full width/half width
04:14.20hyperChipmunkyea, anyway, as long as my name fits, you're okay
04:14.31Tekkubmake direction independant so you can set HP and MP the way you want
04:15.20Tekkubclad: wrap your update thing in profile cod
04:15.28Tekkubtrack it dat way
04:15.40cladhaireTekkub: wrap my update thing in profile cod?  What does that mean?
04:16.04Tekkubcode
04:16.05Tekkub:P
04:16.07hyperChipmunkmeans he wants the Iron Chef Lua fish special
04:16.18TemTekkub: does PRT have slash commands?
04:16.19TekkubFAKUI-SAN!
04:16.24Tekkubno tem
04:16.24hyperChipmunkAllez Coding!
04:16.35Temso... can I do like
04:16.39Temanything with it?
04:16.59Tekkubyou can move and click-cast :P
04:17.04cladhaireholy shit dudes.
04:17.05Ratbert_CPSo, when's AceGUI going fully dynamic?  ;)
04:17.09Tekkubif you whatever with the click thing
04:17.13Tekkubask clad it's his code
04:17.16cladhaireI'm getting 13K usage from the frames in my mod.
04:17.26Tekkubyou need to fix something
04:17.34cladhaireI call gcinfo() at the start of self:CreateFrame()
04:17.38cladhaireand then again at the end.
04:17.42TekkubPRT pluss like, nada
04:18.00TemRatbert_CP: when we can actually do everything we need
04:18.10Tekkuboh you mean the frame creation, not per-second
04:18.11TemRatbert_CP: 1.11 looks like the soonest
04:18.24cladhaireTekkub:  Yeah
04:18.28hyperChipmunkFukui-san?  "go!" it appears as if the Iron Chef is wrapping his update in profile code. This is a common technique in the West, where they commonly have lots of CPU cycles to spare and can test the bloatedness of their monstrous code by adding even more code around it.
04:19.01cladhaireThat puts PerfectRaid at about 140K
04:19.09cladhairewith a 15 man raid
04:19.17cladhaireestimate 1k per raid member
04:19.21Temok, yeah, the layout in the Hall of the Brave sucks monkey balls
04:19.29Tekkub"itappearsthattheIronChefhasseveredhisfinger!  Hesaidthatitreallyreallyreallyhurt, butwilladdaspecialflavortohisdish!"
04:19.43Ratbert_CPI keep hoping that maybe AceGUI will stop being so painful for my multi-columned scrolling list box...
04:20.07cladhaireOk
04:20.10cladhaireso what options did we decide on?
04:20.11cladhairemana bars?
04:20.15cladhairewith a few different styles?
04:20.49cladhaireTem: The defaults don't have the ugly numbers that you hate =)  but the numbers come in handy when you /praid sort group or /praid sort groupclass
04:21.04hyperChipmunkTekkub: rofl
04:21.11TekkubI say options for: stacked vs side-by-side
04:21.28Tekkubdirection of shrinkage
04:21.32Ratbert_CPHmmm...  Would it be better to define my own conglomerated "frame", and let AceGUI only have to deal with a single column?  Hrmmm...  Ow...
04:21.37Tekkubfull width/half width
04:21.50CodayusArg, praid gets unsorted a lot...
04:21.57cladhaireCodayus: What do you mean?
04:22.01cladhaireCodayus: I don't have this isue at all
04:22.03CodayusI'm sorting by class.
04:22.12CodayusWhen someone joins the raid, leaves the raid, it gets unsorted.
04:22.16cladhaireOooh
04:22.19cladhaireit just happened to me =)
04:22.21CodayusAnd it seems to do the same wehn LOOTTYPE changes...
04:22.28CodayusWhich is ...odd.
04:22.30CIA-1303ckknight * r537 10FuBar/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
04:22.31CIA-13FuBar -
04:22.31CIA-13Fixed some positioning issues
04:22.31CIA-13Profile change now issues a font size check.
04:22.31CIA-13README.txt updated to proper name spec.
04:22.41TekkubBOSS
04:22.45ckknightyes?
04:22.49cladhaireCodayus: Loottype fires RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE
04:22.50Temcladhaire: wtf does WW mean?
04:22.53TekkubI finished SEEmbedKeys for you!
04:22.56CodayusAh
04:22.57ckknighthuzzah.
04:22.58CodayusThat explains that
04:22.59cladhaireTem: Its just a string.. why?
04:23.09Tekkubit need Ace and Metro, of course
04:23.09Temit's next to everyone
04:23.21Tekkubanywho, committink now :)
04:23.23cladhaireTem: It shouldn't be.. what did you break?
04:23.35Temnothing
04:23.38cladhaireOH
04:23.41cladhairedid you run praid another night?
04:23.43cladhairetype /praid reset
04:23.43cladhaireand reload
04:23.46cladhaire=)
04:23.47Temah k
04:24.51CIA-1303tekkub * r538 10SpecialEvents/ (BossPanel_SEAura.lua MetrognomeLib.lua SEEmbedKeys.lua):
04:24.51CIA-13SpecialEvents
04:24.51CIA-13- Metro update
04:24.51CIA-13- Reworked FuBar module a bit
04:24.51CIA-13- Added Keys module, this one's embeddable! Requires Ace and Metro to work
04:24.52CIA-13~commit
04:24.53purlHurray! More bugs!
04:24.59cladhaireCodayus: Fixed.. I wasn't saving the value =)
04:25.03Codayus:-)
04:25.12cladhairenbot that i've commited it yet =)
04:25.42CodayusRight.
04:25.56Tekkuboh and BTW boss, you don't have to do anything but load that embed, you should never need to GetInstance it :)
04:25.59CodayusHurry up - we're almost to garr, and the setup will be a great time to reload my UI.  :-P
04:26.26Temcladhaire: it's showing black behind the bars
04:26.34hyperChipmunkthat's a good thing
04:26.49hyperChipmunkhow do you know percentage when the raid is getting AEed
04:26.51Tekkublet me know if you got any issue Bossy
04:27.03CIA-1303cladhaire * r539 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua:
04:27.03CIA-13PerfectRaid:
04:27.03CIA-13* Fixed a bug where the sort order wouldn't save
04:27.03CIA-13* Added commented out code that measures the memory usage of the dynamically allocated frames.
04:27.03CIA-13* Right now, PerfectRaid weighs in at about 140k for a 15 man raid, only 13k of that being frames.
04:28.04ckknightTekkub, why no GetInstance?
04:28.15Tekkubit just fires events
04:28.19ckknightokay
04:28.21ckknightah
04:28.21ckknightyea
04:28.26Tekkubwhy would you need to access the actualy lib
04:29.24Codayusyay
04:29.40Tekkubhrm...
04:29.58hyperChipmunkheh
04:29.59Temcladhaire: the bars backgrounds aren't transparent for me
04:30.07Temcladhaire: it has black behind the health
04:30.40CIA-1303cladhaire 07PerfectRaid-0.2.1-Beta * r540 10PerfectRaid/: PerfectRaid: Tagging for 0.2.1-Beta release. Next up will be low mana threshold and mana bars (maybe)
04:30.49hyperChipmunk/praid backdrop bar 0
04:30.54cladhaireTem: Thats the default.  learn to option =)
04:31.05hyperChipmunk/praid backdrop bar 0 0 0 0
04:31.09cladhaire./praid backdrop bar anytextherewon'tgetbpresedproperly =)
04:31.27cladhairebut 0 0 0 0 is the best way =)
04:32.08cladhairehyperChipmunk: OMG GET INTO A BATTLEGROUND NOW SO I CAN GET A SCREENSHOT
04:32.09hyperChipmunkwhy is the frame so huge
04:32.10cladhaire~commit
04:32.11purlHurray! More bugs!
04:32.14cladhairehyperChipmunk: What do you mean?
04:32.27hyperChipmunkif I turn /praid backdrop frame 0 0 0 .5
04:32.45hyperChipmunkit's like |        Mynithrosil [############]          |
04:32.48cladhaireyeah
04:32.51cladhairebufs, and prefix.
04:32.56cladhaireI could make those outside the frame
04:33.01cladhairebut it kinda looks ghetto like that
04:33.03hyperChipmunkthat's a lot of prefix O_o
04:33.19hyperChipmunkhm
04:33.21hyperChipmunki guess not
04:33.33hyperChipmunkjust looks like it because not everybody's name is so long
04:33.37cladhaireprefix is enough to show WW in your default font =)
04:33.39hyperChipmunknot that i'd ever show that anyway =)
04:33.43cladhairehyperChipmunk: Which is why I truncate by default =)
04:33.55hyperChipmunkno dude
04:33.57hyperChipmunkit's more than that
04:33.58cladhaireI need to cut the truncate down.. your name is too long.
04:34.05hyperChipmunkwsg
04:34.08cladhairehyperChipmunk: I know.. prefix, and then buffs on the other side.
04:34.33hyperChipmunkyes, I'm saying there's enough room for an elephant in the prefix side
04:34.38cladhairei can cut it down
04:34.40cladhaireBITCH
04:34.45hyperChipmunksec, I'll give ss
04:36.16hyperChipmunkbe nice, or I'll just throw the .tga into my /var/www/html and let you fetch it from my cable line
04:36.31hyperChipmunk1900x1200, 8.8mb files =p
04:38.54cladhaire0.2.1 tagged and released
04:39.30clad|sleeplow mana threshold will come tomorrow
04:40.41hyperChipmunkdude, man
04:40.44hyperChipmunkI died for you
04:40.46hyperChipmunkand you logged off
04:41.00hyperChipmunknow my team's gonna make fun of me for being the only death this match =\
04:41.33hyperChipmunkthe horde are all hiding under their saw now =\
04:43.45hyperChipmunkoffline display doesn't pick up until a zone
04:46.27Codayusclad|sleep: The help text for /praid backdrop is a bit messed up
04:46.44hyperChipmunkCodayus: you're a bit messed up
04:46.50hyperChipmunkohhhh
04:47.05TekkubYou're a towel
04:47.50hyperChipmunkthe single most-useful thing a galactic hitchhiker can have on his person
04:50.34CIA-1303ckknight * r541 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBar.toc FuBarTooltip.lua SEEmbedKeys.lua): FuBar - detached tooltips' buttons can not be clicked if locked, but the alt key down.
04:51.07ckknightdammit
04:51.09ckknightthat should say now
04:51.52ckknightwhatever
04:51.52ckknighthyperChipmunk, that should suit you for now, until a better solution arises
04:52.07ckknightwhat that better solution is, I don't know
04:52.36hyperChipmunkyaay
04:52.39hyperChipmunk<3
04:53.10ckknightTekkub, something is horribly wrong
04:53.19Tekkubwhat?
04:53.51ckknightif I press alt/shift/ctrl over and over again, my memory usage can get pretty high (like 8 KiB/s increase)
04:54.04Tekkubtalk to AceEvents!
04:54.13ckknightwho's in charge of that?
04:54.24Tekkubclad's fixed up most of that I think, but it's not been released
04:54.30TekkubI think it's in branch
04:54.32ckknighthrm
04:54.42ckknightI want Ace 2
04:55.03Tekkuboh oops, I need to remove a bit of debug code
04:56.18Tekkubokey yea that cut out the like 3KiB it was causing on my end
04:56.25ckknightokay
04:56.29Tekkubbut I partially optomized my AceEvents
04:56.37ckknightthe way I handled events in GloryLib was pretty clean
04:56.37Tekkubso I get 0-1 now :P
04:56.48ckknightand not ace dependant
04:57.07CIA-1303tekkub * r542 10SpecialEvents/SEEmbedKeys.lua: SpecialEvents - removed debug code from Keys embed
04:58.22Tekkubokey time to embed bags
05:00.05Tekkub*ponder* how am I gonna make bags work well.... I'm thinking I'll just have it NilOut the normal bags if it's there to provent it from double-firing events
05:00.28Tekkub*normal bags module
05:00.32ckknightah
05:00.35ckknightyea
05:00.58Tekkubmy intent is basically for all of SE to become embeddable
05:01.46ckknightif I hacked the SEEmbedKeys to not use ace, would you consider it?
05:02.20Tekkubplugins would have to register with it for events
05:02.40Tekkubwhich basically means replicating ace events....
05:02.46Tekkub*hrm*
05:02.57TekkubI guess I'll do dat :P
05:03.13Tekkubit'll still fire ace events too if ace is there tho
05:03.21ckknighthrm
05:03.47Tekkubbut direct registrations could be done
05:04.03ckknightbasically, you'd do sekeys:Register("event", func or "methodName", arg)
05:04.23Temok, WTF
05:04.29ckknightthat doesn't seem efficient
05:04.31hyperChipmunkftw
05:04.33Temwhy do I have to be on fucking top of someone to hit them
05:04.47Tembut they can be ten fuckin yards away and hit me just fine
05:04.48ckknightcause otherwise she'll get away
05:05.03ckknightyou just gotta pin her and start slamming your fists as hard as you can
05:05.07TekkubI was thinking SEKeys:RegisterEvent(event, self, methodname(optional) )
05:05.09hyperChipmunkpvp isn't exactly synched
05:05.16hyperChipmunkyou have to lead people
05:05.18Temthis is really starting to piss me off
05:05.23ckknighthrm
05:05.27TemI can't fucking hit people for shit
05:05.34hyperChipmunkif you run inside them if you're chasing them, you'll be right where you ought to be
05:05.41Tembut they can 2 shot me with their fucking fiery enchants from 10 yards
05:05.44TekkubTem: hence why I hate PvP, among many reasons
05:05.52hyperChipmunkthat's why it also looks like they're far away when they're hitting you
05:05.58hyperChipmunkif they're chasing you
05:06.36ckknightTekkub, if you have your own events, why have the ace events as well?
05:06.41ckknightI'd figure one or the other
05:06.42TekkubBoss: it'd basically work like AceEvent and look for obj:EVENT_NAME if no method name is passed
05:06.51ckknighthrm
05:07.00CodayusHmm, mouseover PRT...doesn't seem to show tank names...or sometimes doesn't...*confused*
05:07.12Tekkubbecause it'd break mods that use SE now if I don't
05:07.26Tekkubhrm....
05:07.36ckknightmaybe set a distinction between your embed and non-embed versions?
05:07.39Tekkubor I could do that in a compatibility layer, echo events...
05:08.17Tekkubactually, yea I like the thought of mimicink AceEvent's behavior but not useing it directly
05:08.34Tekkubthen old version can stay around, new has to register with the lib
05:09.05ckknight:-)
05:09.15ckknightokay
05:09.33Tekkubjust in case :)
05:09.49ckknight...
05:11.04Tekkubwell I already commited it up
05:11.15TekkubI don't usually change the version till I commit
05:20.26ElvisoTekkub, you got a second?
05:20.32Tekkubyes
05:20.36Elvisohttp://ace.pastebin.com/674739
05:20.36Tekkuboh you wasted it
05:20.42Elvisoany reason that errors getting thrown?
05:20.51Elvisoheh
05:21.03Tekkubbecause Compost is gone
05:21.06Tekkubit's CompostLib
05:21.26Tekkubhrm...
05:21.27ElvisoI dont use my local reference?
05:22.06Tekkubokey, don't call something in your table as you're constructing said table
05:22.07ElvisoCompostLib.lua is the first declaration in my .toc
05:22.33Elvisothat's interesting....
05:22.42Elvisosince I make my addon all 1 table
05:22.50Tekkubmost addons are
05:22.53ckknightI think I found an error in Cladhaire's Ace branch
05:23.09Tekkubbut doing lots of shit inside the tabel constructor is kinda bad
05:23.19Tekkubanyway I fixed it for you
05:23.42Tekkubbut Elv, you just proved why I don't like the Rowne "all in one table" code layout
05:23.44*** part/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce1.disney.com)
05:24.05TekkubI much prefer Addon = {}; function Addon:Somthing() doshit() end
05:24.21Elvisowell, I'm new to LUA, and I've seen alot of other ppl do it, and it looks clean and whatnot
05:24.41Tekkuband you should grab your compost instance in init or enable IMHO
05:24.51Tekkuband not init the table until you need it
05:25.20Tekkuband if you never reclaim that table to compost, there's no reason ta Acquire in the first place, just do t = {}
05:25.33Elvisoreally?
05:25.49Tekkubyea recycling is useless if you never take cans back
05:25.52Tekkubfull circle
05:26.03Tekkubyou take a table only if you intend to give it back
05:26.16TemTekkub: what doe the name colors in PRT mean?
05:26.23ElvisoI thought that was one of the principles of compost...that you could reclaim tables that were discarded by other addons
05:26.24Tekkubotherwise just use t = {} and self.compost:Erase(t)
05:26.30TemRed, Dark red, white, grey, ect
05:26.33TekkubTem: scroll up :P
05:26.42Tekkubnot typing em out again
05:26.44Temno time
05:26.48ckknightI used to like the "all in one table", but now I don't
05:26.48Temcopy paste please
05:27.31Tekkubmark, marknocombat, combat, nocombat/dead, offtank, controlle
05:27.44Tekkubetc == offwhite, yellow
05:28.07Tekkubcontrolled == trap, sheep, etc
05:30.51Tekkuband elvis, look at some of my code, it's just as clean and IMCO, easier to read in the "function object:method(args)" format
05:31.04ckknightimco?
05:31.06ckknightwhat's the c?
05:31.11Tekkubin my crappy opinion
05:31.13Elvisolol
05:31.17Tekkubnothing humble about me
05:31.19Elvisook, I will...thanks Tekkub
05:31.19ckknightalright, I was thinking conceited
05:31.34Tekkubno that IYCO
05:31.40Elvisohaha
05:31.50Tekkubcause well, you're a dick Boss
05:32.53ckknightI'm just fragile and unruly
05:32.54ckknightyou're a dick
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05:34.14TekkubNo, you're a towel
05:35.23ckknighttowels are very important
05:35.28ckknightdon't forget to bring a towel
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05:36.25Tekkubalmost done with the event structure in Keys bossman :)
05:36.43Tekkubit's uber simple and it'll work just like Ace's
05:37.20Tekkubit'll take a stirng or func for the handle, if it's a func it calls directly, if it's a string it called the named method
05:37.32Tekkubif it's not defined it calles the func named for the event
05:37.54Tekkuband, of course, it passes a value for self
05:38.01ckknightgood stuff
05:38.33Tekkubit should work seemslessly like AceEvent, except you register with the embedlib instead of self
05:38.50ckknightalright
05:39.33Tekkubbut first, I'm hungry
05:39.42Tekkubfood first, then test
05:39.53Tekkubno bowl, is stick! stick!
05:49.41TekkubCair: why you think I don't come in your channel?
05:49.53TekkubI don't wanna do crap there you don't like
05:50.02CairennI know
05:50.03Tekkuband well, everything I say there would be
05:50.12Cairenns'okay
05:50.27Tekkubit's not that I don't like ya channel, I don't trust meself
05:51.00Tekkubthere's too much oppourtunity for me to go off on jackasses
05:51.04CairennI understand bear, it's okay
05:51.11Tekkubhere I'm totally allowed to do that :)
05:51.51TekkubI know, I 'm saying it so maybe a few others will get a hint?
05:53.00Cairennckknight: just let it go =/
05:53.07Tekkubwell one advantage to new job
05:53.11Tekkubcheap ice cream
05:53.12ckknightmeh
05:53.17ckknightwhat job?
05:53.28TekkubNEW job
05:53.59TekkubBraums, stocking groceries mostly
05:54.34ckknighthrm
05:59.23Tekkubhuzzah!
05:59.29Tekkubevent registration works :)
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06:11.11CIA-1303tekkub * r543 10SpecialEvents/SEEmbedKeys.lua: SpecialEvents - Removed Keys embed, it's moving to a seperate commit path and getting some upgrades. ** IF YOU DOWNLOADED THE ONE I JUST COMMITTED STOP USING IT NOW!!! ** I'll post the new one soon :)
06:13.59Temwewt
06:14.00Temding
06:14.13TemI just went from 18->19 solely on WSG
06:15.32Wobin_Happy Birthday id` =)
06:16.30CairennHappy Birthday id`
06:24.46Temoops, did I say that out loud?
06:25.11Cairennheh
06:25.15TemI need a confirm dialog when I type stuff while zeeg is in the other channel
06:25.57*** mode/#wowace [+b zeeg!*@*] by Tem
06:26.00Temjust in case
06:26.39ckknightlol
06:30.41Temlol
06:31.15Temin response to a pally in my guild saying "I hope they have a hefty buff planned for mages.  You guys have gotten steady nerfs the last several patches"
06:31.27TemI said "It's like that snakes and ladders game; there are only so many snakes to fall down-- eventually you get to the bottom and there's no where to go but up."
06:31.38Temwhich got the response "that is the most depressing analogy ever"
06:35.05Tekkubkek
06:35.34Tekkubso Bossman, got a nice debug module made for SEEmbeds :)
06:35.41Tekkubgonna commit it up now, use thin one
06:36.55CIA-1303ckknight * r544 10FuBar/ (FuBarPlugin.lua PanelClass.lua): FuBar - fixed the show icon/show text memory.
06:37.41ckknightI'll release as soon as I get your new SEEmbeds up and running
06:38.46Temhow does one get to thunderbluff from Org?
06:39.39ckknightrun southwest
06:39.52ckknightsouth to RH, west to XR, south to Camp T, west to Mulgore, northwest to TB
06:40.02Temno faster way?
06:40.07Temthat blows
06:40.08ckknightflying
06:40.12Temyeah yeah
06:40.17TemI meant a zepp or something
06:40.25ckknightno, the run takes 25 minutes
06:40.28ckknightgive or take
06:42.58CIA-1303tekkub * r545 10SpecialEventsEmbed/ (6 files): SpecialEventsEmbed - Initial import
06:43.18TemI have the camp T FP so it shouldn't be that bad
06:44.18ckknightah, okay
06:44.28ckknightthen it'll be fast
06:44.34CIA-1303tekkub * r546 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SEEmbedKeys.lua:
06:44.34CIA-13SpecialEventsEmbed - Duh, comment fix
06:44.34CIA-13~ponder
06:44.36purlWuh, I think so, cia-13, but if we didn't have ears, we'd look like weasels.
06:44.46ckknightlol
06:44.54ckknightgonna cook some garlic chicken
06:46.09Wobin_hoi Tekkub
06:46.20Wobin_How goes the PT embedlib?
06:46.23Tekkubnani?
06:46.30TekkubPT embed is done
06:46.39TekkubI merged the branch back already
06:46.42Wobin_(And just -what- was that 'print' bug in the embedlib?)
06:46.46Wobin_Brilliant
06:47.01Tekkubit'll still appear the same as a regular install, but all the bits are embeddable now :)
06:47.36TekkubI don't know what that error was... it's like print isn't defined at load or something odd
06:48.02Wobin_The most interesting problem for me was that it didn't happen for everyone...
06:48.20Tekkubyea it's like your print got niled out or something...
06:48.35Tekkub*shrug* it was unneeded debug, who cares
06:48.40Wobin_yeah
06:49.27Wobin_hm, why didn't the merge show up on the changelog?
06:50.33CIA-1303tekkub * r547 10/branches/FuBar_FriendsFu/FriendsFu.lua: FuBar_FriendsFu (Branch) - Code restructuring, nothing changed functionality wise
06:50.44Cairenn|sleepnight guys
06:50.52Tekkublater haireen
06:51.14Wobin_night Cair
06:59.13CIA-1303tekkub * r548 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SEEmbedKeys.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed - Added minor-version upgrading code, don't know how I forgot that.
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07:06.38ckknighthey kergoth
07:08.34kergothhey
07:09.54Neronixmorning
07:10.46ckknighthey
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07:27.01ckknightTekkub, why don't you standardize the way you have your major versions?
07:27.19Tekkubwhatcha mean?
07:28.47Tekkubif you're comparing to Compost, it's the odd one out
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07:29.12TekkubI did that one cause it was how iIriel did his, then I didn't like it but everyone was using it alreay
07:29.22Tekkuball my other libs are consistant
07:29.47Wobin_I say you should standardise it while you still can =)
07:30.48Tekkubthe yare, compost will join the standard if/when it gets a major version change
07:32.05ckknightI thought of an optimization for SEKeys
07:32.14ckknightnot much of one, but still
07:32.34ckknightline 109: self.registrar[eventname][caller] = method or true
07:32.42ckknightinstead of true, why not just have eventname?
07:33.01ckknighton every trigger, it checks if it's true, then subs in eventname anyway
07:34.45Tekkub*looks*
07:35.41Tekkubyea okey
07:37.49sedatedChipmunkeverything gtg in glorylib, doublechecked and ready....except for that blasted table when zoning into AV after you've played for awhile w/o reloading =\
07:38.12sedatedChipmunki'ma upload what I have to svn; see if anyone can spot something I'm not
07:39.43sedatedChipmunkckknight: do you want me to handle the API changes (just some return values giving more information, really), or should I just mark where and leave it to you?
07:39.50sedatedChipmunker, the documentation
07:40.31ckknightyea, feel free to edit the docs, just do the same way I was
07:40.37ckknightbe sure to give a relatively clear example
07:41.05CIA-1303tekkub * r549 10SpecialEventsEmbed/ (4 files):
07:41.05CIA-13SpecialEventsEmbed
07:41.05CIA-13- Tweaked event registration/firing a tad
07:41.05CIA-13- Fixed library upgrading method (oops)
07:41.05CIA-13- Added Bags module
07:41.06CIA-13- Colorized Debug output, yummy pastels!
07:43.00TekkubHuzzah for Bags embed, no more excuses for the Ace-dependancy haters
07:43.26Tekkubalthough they are forced into going OO-style
07:43.35Tekkub*grin*
07:43.52ckknighthmm, it appears that my code is creating memory increases
07:43.57ckknightthis is... unacceptable.
07:44.33Tekkubwell not entirely true... but it'd be kinda bassackwards to force it to work the other way and still be able to unregister
07:44.54Tekkubwhat code Boss?
07:45.39ckknightnvm
07:45.41ckknightit's not me
07:45.43ckknightit's Kemayo
07:45.48ckknightwill have to bust his ass.
07:45.53Tekkub*swirly motion* kergawn *swirly motion* kergoth
07:46.11TekkubKemayo?
07:46.15ckknightQuestFu
07:46.19Tekkuboh
07:46.38Tekkubyea I beat some sense into GuildFu and FuFuFriends earlier today
07:47.05sedatedChipmunkckknight: with your permission, I'd also like to switch GetHolder() to a local, and make it visible with GetDefender only, since I've made battlefieldObjectiveStatus.defender always be assigned with GetHolder.  There's no need for the user to explicitly call the pattern match when the value's in the table
07:47.16ckknightfine by me
07:47.25sedatedChipmunkyou have local stuff in the doc?
07:47.32ckknightno
07:47.38ckknightno local stuff in the API
07:47.40sedatedChipmunkdidn't think so
07:47.56sedatedChipmunkso yanking that too
07:48.07ckknightreally, you want to make as much stuff as you can local
07:48.39sedatedChipmunkI'd like to make the only things in the api be the requests for the table values there
07:49.09TekkubI should take to using locals a bit more.. I always just go with self...
07:49.11sedatedChipmunkI'll work more on slimming it tomorrow, while I'm waiting to get in avs =P
07:49.46ckknightavs?
07:50.00ckknightI don't like storing data in self
07:50.19ckknightit can become contaminated
07:50.28ckknighttypically, not through malice, but through stupidity
07:50.33Tekkubyea I try to go with self.var and self.k
07:50.43Tekkubbut I'm not as anal about doing that as I should be
07:50.47sedatedChipmunkTekkub: I much prefer them that way, too.  There should be exactly one route for each essential piece of information to be given to the 'user', and it should be as minimalistic as possible
07:50.58sedatedChipmunkthat's my philosophy anyway
07:51.18sedatedChipmunkckknight: Alterac Valleys
07:51.23sedatedChipmunkum
07:51.26Tekkuboh wait, hubby's not here
07:52.15sedatedChipmunkreally, is that necessary?
07:52.26Tekkubplus with libs the self.vars thing is handy for the upgrade method, one copy and you got all your stuff
07:52.27CodayusHmm, seem to be getting an unusually bad frame rate...wonder if its a mod...and if so, what...
07:53.00TekkubChip: I was talking about self.vars, I don't know what you thought I was talking about
07:53.17Wobin_sedatedChipmunk: Can you expect any less? =P
07:54.09ckknightdildo.
07:55.05ckknightinflate?
07:55.10Tekkubyes!
07:55.12ckknighthrm
07:55.17Tekkub*grin*
07:55.26ckknightI know there are ones you can put like warm water into...
07:55.46Tekkuboh the squirty ones? I never got that myself
07:55.52ckknightnot squirty ones
07:55.58Tekkuboh
07:55.58ckknightjust to make it warm and such
07:56.16Tekkubbah you can just soak it in wark water before if you want that
07:56.23ckknightI suppose
08:01.23ckknightI still need a name for the drop down menu lib...
08:01.33TekkubI liked alaCarte
08:01.35ckknightyou set options with it...
08:01.53TekkubDropKick?
08:02.05ckknighthow does that make sense?
08:02.20Tekkub*shrug* it has the word drop
08:02.33TekkubalaCarte is the best one so far :P
08:03.04sedatedChipmunkStopDropAndScroll
08:03.18ckknightlol.
08:03.20Tekkubwill the menu scroll? that could be handy
08:03.27Tekkuband the name would fit
08:04.06ckknightsure
08:04.17sedatedChipmunkobviously he needs to make it scroll
08:04.24sedatedChipmunkso it fits the name
08:04.26sedatedChipmunkduh
08:04.26TekkubI can't wait till you write that up..if it's in Fu it'll make modMenu and it's successor kick major ass
08:04.30sedatedChipmunkyou're all backwards, tek
08:04.36ckknightof course it'll be in FuBar
08:04.41ckknightbut likely FuBar 1.2
08:04.46Tekkubyarr
08:05.14TekkubI should write up the mod registrar library
08:05.34Tekkubthink of it like MyAddons, minus the UI completely
08:05.34ckknightwhat'd it do?
08:05.40Tekkuband embedded
08:05.43ckknightI never used MyAddons
08:05.54Tekkubyou register your addon with it and two optional functions
08:06.06ckknightokay
08:06.07ckknightthat do?
08:06.11Tekkubone is called on cick, open a gui or whatever
08:06.22Tekkubothe is a basic dropdown menu drawer
08:06.31Tekkubdraw-el
08:06.35Tekkubbah
08:06.53ckknightI'm thinking DewDrop
08:06.59Tekkubanyway, the idea is you just register the basic basic shit to get to your addon, oh and a category for it
08:07.07CIA-1303hyperactiveChipmunk * r550 10GloryLib/ (API.html GloryLib.lua): (log message trimmed)
08:07.07CIA-13GloryLib:
08:07.07CIA-13- GetHolder(poi) made local. NOTE: battlefieldObjectiveStatus is still 'self' to aid debugging.
08:07.07CIA-13- GetHolder(poi) able to report any faction in control of a node, not only Horde or Alliance (e.g. the Trogg-controlled Irondeep Mine in Alterac Valley).
08:07.07CIA-13- CompostLib for battlefieldObjectiveStatus logically commented out until I can
08:07.10CIA-13figure out what is causing it do occasionally record duplicate nodes when
08:07.12CIA-13entering AV. The straight table allocation does not suffer from this problem,
08:07.26sedatedChipmunk^---hey that's me!
08:07.30Tekkubthe ModMenu drops all the built-in shit and becomes a simple mod enable-disabler and UI/menu opener
08:07.48ckknightokay
08:07.52Tekkub:)
08:08.11Tekkubthink of it kinda like Ace's chat command shit, but for GUI/menu functions
08:08.23ckknighthrm
08:08.24ckknightokay
08:08.47Tekkuband multiple mods can access it's info, so if you want a minimap button that opens a menu you could do that
08:09.39ckknightI need a feature list to accomplish
08:09.48ckknightwhat I want is basically everything that's already in the dropdowns
08:09.52ckknightinfinite lines
08:09.59ckknightinfinite levels
08:10.09ckknightability to open arbitrary frames as a new level
08:10.30ckknightbetter refreshing (no keepShownOnClick shit)
08:11.10ckknightscrolling (if lines are too big)
08:11.26CIA-1303hyperactiveChipmunk * r551 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/ (5 files):
08:11.26CIA-13FuBar_BattlegroundFu:
08:11.26CIA-13- Updated GloryLib to rev350, and API calls changed accordingly.
08:11.38ckknightspecial kinds of levels (e.g. a slider that can pop next to it)
08:11.48ckknightand it'd all be fluid
08:12.01sedatedChipmunkwith blackjack...and hookers?
08:12.11CIA-1303ckknight * r552 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBarTooltip.lua SEEmbedKeys.lua): FuBar - updated for new version of SEEmbedKeys.lua
08:12.20ckknightah, forget the blackjack
08:12.24ckknightand the dropdown
08:12.29ckknightah, forget the whole thing
08:12.42ckknightFuturama's great
08:12.52sedatedChipmunk~emulate bender
08:12.53purlOh cruel fate, to be thusly boned.  Ask not for who the bone bones; it bones for thee!
08:13.08ckknightlol
08:13.26NeronixHow do I get a list of commands for purl?
08:13.36sedatedChipmunkask for help
08:13.44ckknight~pet Neronix
08:13.45purlACTION reaches over and pets Neronix on the head, saying "There, there! It'll all be ok!"
08:13.50Neronix~help
08:14.08Neronixthanks
08:16.12sedatedChipmunknight froods
08:16.18Neronixnight
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08:28.53CIA-1303tekkub * r553 10SpecialEventsEmbed/ (4 files):
08:28.53CIA-13SpecialEventsEmbed
08:28.53CIA-13- Tweaked Bags variable storage to use self.vars
08:28.53CIA-13- Added Equipped module
08:43.32CIA-1303tekkub * r554 10SpecialEventsEmbed/ (Debug.lua SEEmbedMovement.lua SpecialEventsEmbed.toc): SpecialEventsEmbed - Added Movement module
08:45.26Wobin_I'm glad zeeg found something to entertain himself =P
08:46.07Tekkuboreo?
08:47.55Wobin_He's having fun imitating some person who thought it'd be amusing to have the irc nick of 'me
08:47.58Wobin_'
08:48.14Wobin_Hm, we should just set wowi back to +R
08:48.17Tekkubgee sounds like....
08:48.29Tekkubnah I won't say it, it's offensive to even me
08:49.20TekkubInstead I will say:
08:49.29Tekkub"Red rocket! Red rocket!"
08:49.42Tekkub*grin* yea that was satisfying enough
08:49.46CIA-1303neronix * r555 10Lexan/ (Changelog.txt Lexan.lua Lexan.toc Readme.txt):
08:49.46CIA-13Lexan
08:49.46CIA-13- Expanded World Map suppression to function when using the mailbox and bank
08:49.46CIA-13- Minor optimizations
08:49.46CIA-13- Updated readme to explain World Map suppression
08:50.39Tekkubyou know what I want...
08:50.49Tekkubthe worldmap to NOT HIDE UIParent :)
08:50.53CIA-1303neronix 071.1 * r556 10Lexan/:
08:50.53CIA-13Lexan
08:50.53CIA-13- Tagging as 1.1
08:50.53CIA-13~lart CIA-13
08:51.13TekkubI have my map on the right mon, there's no reason to remove my UI on the left
08:51.40Tekkubyou know what'd kick ass
08:52.11Tekkubif purl had a ~posttowowi that would download the commit, convert it to a zip, and WoWI it :)
08:52.12NeronixIf the world map didn't do that shit, I wouldn't have to suppress it :P
08:52.26Neronixthat'd be awesome
08:53.13TekkubI'm feeling a new feature for Lexon brewing :)
08:53.51Neronixproblem is, I'm not sure if I can stop it
08:53.51CodayusYay, killed Domo.  First raid we've ever been able to summon him.  Yay!
08:53.53CodayusSmall stuff for the AQ40 raiders around here, I know, but...  Weee.
08:54.04Neronixif it could be stopped, then Auctioneer wouldn't have used the suppression method
09:05.08ElvisoDomo is actually quite the fight, I think he's much harder than any previous MC boss.
09:06.07kergothheh, i should disable the "go away when no clients are connected" feature of this irc proxy :P
09:12.00Wobin_What's the gc force function again?
09:12.26TekkubNero: it should be stoppable *digs in blizzy's code*
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09:14.01NeronixTekkub: I'll look into it then :)
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09:15.37TekkubWorldMapFrame_OnLoadfor one would need overridden to kill the "BlackoutWorld" crap on widescreen, allthough I think it's bugged cause mien doesn't black out :)
09:15.38Tekkubhehe it is, they used < when they meant > !
09:16.15Tekkubbut it's something I don't want fixed, so I ain't telling SlouMan
09:19.16Tekkubhrm... I don't see where UIParent is getting hidden... hum
09:19.17TekkubI'll grep the whole folder later
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09:29.49CIA-1303tekkub * r557 10SpecialEventsEmbed/ (Debug.lua SEEmbedBank.lua SpecialEventsEmbed.toc): SpecialEventsEmbed - Added Bank module
09:33.25Wobin_bah =(
09:33.40Wobin_we need a 'convertTableIntoAMultipleString' function =P
09:34.05Wobin_so it converts {"bing","frog","womble"} to "bing, frog and womble" =P
09:34.37Wobin_I'm spoilt by LPC
09:34.43Tekkubuhm...
09:34.57Tekkub:P
09:35.45FryGuyanyone know of a good list of the interface icons?
09:44.09NeronixTekkub: thanks
09:44.18NeronixI'll grep for the hide event now
09:44.33Tekkubyea see if you can find UIParent:Hide :)
09:46.09Neronixonly occurs in UIParent.lua once
09:47.16FryGuyTekkub: you made bigwigs right?
09:47.29Neronixunder the definition of SetFullScreenFrame()
09:48.41Tekkubthe core, yes
09:49.09TekkubI don't take direct repsonsiblity for the boss modules :)
09:49.29FryGuyis there any event for the bosses health going from a value above a threshold to a number below a threshold?
09:49.35TekkubI fix em if it's a simple bug, but if it's something that requires bein an the boss to test I don't mess with it
09:49.59Tekkubno, you'd have to catch that yourself
09:50.01FryGuylike nefarion does his lagzerg at 20%, any way to announce that
09:50.03TekkubUNIT_HEALTH
09:50.18FryGuywouldn't work for all people though
09:50.28FryGuywould need metrognome i think
09:50.35Tekkubonly works if he's targetted, yes
09:50.57FryGuyto check UnitName("raid"..i.."target") == bossname
09:51.11Tekkubthat is overkill frankly
09:51.14FryGuy:\
09:51.17FryGuyi'm a healer heh
09:51.31Tekkubeveryone should have the boss targetted, eve healers
09:51.37FryGuyhuh
09:51.40Tekkubpassive targetting is your friend
09:51.58Tekkubhell I used passive targetting back in FFXI so I could track our mob's HP
09:52.21FryGuyya but you don't get to monitor the person's health that you're targetting to cancel :/
09:52.28Tekkubeveryone should have the boss or some other hostile targetted during normal DPS times :P
09:52.28FryGuyor to see if they need another heal
09:52.50Tekkubdo you not use unitframes?
09:52.55FryGuyyes
09:53.08FryGuybut I don't know where the person I'm healing is in the raid always
09:53.14FryGuyi target the boss and assist them :p
09:53.28Tekkubtrue people move...
09:53.46Tekkubanyway, yes unithealth, you target big guy
09:54.01Tekkubanother use for the comm channel crap I need to write
09:54.41FryGuyactually it'd probably suffice to just check the MTT if those exist
09:54.53Tekkubmetrognome and active target scanning is painful IMCO
09:56.39FryGuymeh
09:56.48FryGuyjust want to get this ouro bossmod working :p
09:56.50Tekkubfrankly I think the HP% crap is stuff people should just know, but meh
09:56.56FryGuytrue
09:57.15FryGuy1 more thing to be lazy about though :)
09:57.26Tekkubhell, announce it to the player when the fight starts
09:57.45Tekkub"Billy engaged, he'll enrage at 20%"
09:58.05FryGuyconsidering we've only got him to 93%, i don't know if that'll be a problem atm :p
10:09.49kergothehh, looking at the staywithinthelines code.. if you're gonna use a global to hold the stub object anyway, why not just make that a global stub, ditch all the newstub calls, and include the embedded lib name in the major version?
10:09.52kergothheh
10:11.37Tekkubbecause no kergy :P
10:11.43TekkubI like it how it is
10:11.58Tekkublook at my versioning with SEEmbed and you'll understand
10:12.32kergothits pointless. you gain absolutely nothing but global namespace pollution.
10:12.34Tekkuband I do want each library to have it's own global name
10:12.52Tekkuboh bah, on name per library is not pollution
10:13.13Tekkubin fact with crap like SEEmbed there's les globals than SE normal
10:14.06kergothwell, ace 2.0's global stub will not do so.  you'll have to stuff your shit into the global namespace manually
10:14.47Tekkubwell I'm not gonna be usin Ace2's stub anyway :P
10:15.00kergothi'm happy for you. pollute away.
10:15.33Tekkubyou notice non of my embeds are ace-dependant at all right?
10:15.54Tekkublike the non-aceers are gonna use em, but meh
10:16.16kergothand ace 2.0 addons neednt be ace dependent either. every module, including the object model, will be embeddable.
10:16.57Tekkub*shrug* we'll see what happens whenever Ace2 gets arround to happening
10:17.44kergothi'll be checking in the object model this weekend, so people can get moving on the modules :)
10:17.54Tekkubbut I ain't waiting around for you guys to get your stuff working so I can write my own embeds
10:18.26Tekkubso there's some chance of Ace2 happening this year? that's a good thing
10:19.21Tekkubwill there even be a "normal" ace addon or will everyone just embed the core in their addon?
10:21.38kergothmyself, i see no point to an "ace" addon ever existing
10:22.14TekkubWell, the current one would stick around for any mod that uses it until those mods are converterd...
10:22.24Tekkubbut there'd be no Ace2 "mod" :)
10:22.52Tekkubor are ya'all planning to do backwardscompatability voodoo?
10:23.16TekkubI frankly think Ace2/embed should be all new goodness, don't BWC it up
10:23.25kergothhasnt really been discussed.  my personal opinion would be to ensure that they can live side by side, and dont be backwards compatible in any way, shape, or form
10:23.38Tekkubsince it shouldn't interfere with the other running on the same system....
10:23.53Tekkubhuzzah
10:23.56Tekkubwe thinks alike
10:24.53Tekkubfrankly once the whole framework is in place I think updates are gonna be a ton more frequent
10:25.08Tekkubsince each library can be maintained seperatly
10:25.40Tekkuband they'll spread without major releases of the core happening
10:25.48Wobin_It would be interesting to see what changes are made
10:26.07Wobin_ie, how the library would mutate
10:26.13Tekkubauthors stay up to date off the SVN... new version spead out with their releases
10:26.18kergothTekkub: I think one of the most important changes to come out of embedding is that people will actually /think/ about versioning.
10:26.28Wobin_Good grief
10:26.33Tekkubversioning is a good thing :)
10:26.46kergothyes, especially when it comes to the api
10:26.59Tekkubbut since mods are a "just overwrite it" thing I don't care about my mod versions
10:27.06Wobin_gah. You know it's time to rethink your coding logic when you get a result that doesn't seem logically possible =P
10:27.08TekkubI DO care about my embed versions
10:27.16Tekkubthose get changed each time I commit
10:27.34Wobin_I want ace to be able to read the version from the toc =P
10:27.37Wobin_or something
10:27.56Wobin_ie some sort of central version reference
10:27.58Tekkuboh fuck, that reminds me
10:28.19TekkubI wanted to ask slouken to add more metadat in the TOC that's accessable in-game
10:28.43Tekkubhell, any TOC comments should be accessable in game
10:28.59Wobin_http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/SimpleCompass.jpg
10:29.34Tekkublike for "## Author: Tekkub" there would be GetTOCComment("Author") >> "Tekkub"
10:30.37TekkubIf I post a thread ya all gotta back me on it :)
10:31.03Wobin_Sure
10:31.44Wobin_drop the link in here and I'll post support
10:31.59Tekkubone sex, writing it up
10:40.21Tekkubhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=365186
10:41.14Tekkubeveryone /sign :)
10:45.18weabi signed for you tekky :P
10:47.31Tekkuboh SYNAP! Jew diah eunt!
10:47.45Tekkub*reads probably pissy response*
10:48.42TekkubI forsee a "getting the last word" standoff happening soon
10:48.49Tekkubthat thread's never gonna die :)
10:49.14Tekkuband I posted to the Ace forum asking for bumps for the TOC idea :)
10:52.09Tekkubo/~ Sail away, Sail away, Sail away, Sail away, Sail away, Sail away, Sail away, Sail away, Sail away o/~
10:59.06NeronixTekkub: Do we really need to remove blackoutworld?
10:59.36Neronixif you're using the world map, then wouldn't you... you know... not see the world? :P
11:04.06Neronix~poke Tekkub
11:04.07purlACTION grabs a syringe
11:04.47Tekkub"BlackOut" doesn't work :)
11:04.58Tekkubthere's a bug in there so it never happens *grin*
11:05.14Neronixok
11:05.33Neronixok, think it'll just be a case of hooking SetFullScreenFrame()
11:05.38Tekkubif they fix that sometim then yes
11:06.07NeronixBtw, is the world map the only full screen frame?
11:06.14Tekkubno clue
11:06.21NeronixBlizz apparently has code that suggests there's more than one, but I don't think there's more
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11:20.30Neronixok, simply removing UIPanel:Hide() doesn't work :<
11:27.32NeronixWoot!
11:28.03NeronixHook ToggleWorldMap and instead of calling Show/HideUIPanel, just do WorldMapFrame:Show/Hide
11:28.18Neronixbut you have the little side effect of fubar covering the title bar
11:33.12TekkubOH
11:33.14TekkubMAH
11:33.15TekkubGAMD
11:33.18TekkubBECKY!
11:33.36TekkubFrasier is actually Woofy as Beast, they dun good!
11:33.42NeronixThe significance of what I've achieved has just sunk in :O
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11:35.50[MoonWolf]the toic idea is good
11:36.44Tekkub*cry* I can't add stupid shit to the topic
11:37.08[MoonWolf]why not ?
11:37.28NeronixWhat's the name of the thing that defines how high a frame is? Strata?
11:37.36[MoonWolf]strata
11:37.40Tekkub* #wowace :You need to be a channel operator to do that
11:37.44Neronixok, thanks
11:37.55[MoonWolf]aha
11:37.56*** mode/#wowace [-t] by [MoonWolf]
11:38.00[MoonWolf]go ahead
11:38.01*** topic/#wowace by Tekkub -> wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | Cair is awesome | Ni hao! | Beast is a big blue sexy bastard!
11:38.16*** topic/#wowace by Tekkub -> wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | Cair is awesome | Ni hao! | Beast is a big blue sexy bastard, even if he is Frasier
11:38.30*** topic/#wowace by [MoonWolf] -> |wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | Beast is a big blue sexy bastard, even if he is Frasier
11:38.30*** mode/#wowace [+t] by [MoonWolf]
11:38.44Tekkubkek-
11:39.37Tekkubon that note, gonna go watch me some TV
11:39.49[MoonWolf]okay, what the hell is up with that telal guy on th eforums.
11:40.09[MoonWolf]how does he create that error... ifor cuse cannot.
11:40.21Tekkubwho fuckin knows
11:40.24Tekkub:P
11:40.30TekkubI'm going away cause of him
11:40.40[MoonWolf]:(
11:46.17Neronixok, WorldMapFrame:SetFrameStrata("FULLSCREEN") and WorldMapFrame:Raise() don't get rid of FuBar
11:46.31Neronixyou think people would rather have it sit on top of the world map?
11:51.17Neronixnvm, sorted it
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13:02.35NeronixIs there a way to change a frame's level that includes all its children?
13:21.21Mikma!!!123124135qtege! my mac's HDD broke down
13:24.17Mikmathank god i still have this old PC :P (800MHz)
13:25.23NeronixHow do I orphan a frame in visor? p=nil and p="" give errors :S
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13:26.53Neronixnvm
13:46.17NeronixWeird...
13:46.19psychoChipmunktime to see the doc; back in an hour =)
13:46.47NeronixI can mouseover npcs, fubar modules and more from on top of the world map :S
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14:25.56NeronixOk, I'm totally stuck now
14:26.10Mikmaanyone got a axe to lend?
14:26.41Mikmamy mac is 16months old and guarantee only covers 12months
14:26.42Neronixanyone know how to stop things underneath a frame from being mouseoverable?
14:27.55Tekkubmousetraps
14:28.02Tekkubget a cat
14:28.19NeronixAh Tekkub, just who I need
14:28.28Tekkubnot me I'm in bed
14:28.39[MoonWolf]EVEN BETTER
14:28.57Tekkubmake it damn quick
14:29.02Neronixok
14:29.07TekkubI'm woosey and would like to pass out while I can
14:29.11Mikmaoh i like that baby, i put on my robe and wizard hat
14:29.27[MoonWolf]that joke needs to DIE!
14:29.28TekkubI have issues falling asleep, if I think too much I'll wake back up
14:29.38Neronixnvm then
14:29.42MikmaNEVEEER!
14:29.46Tekkubwhy moon? it's funny
14:30.02Tekkubit's funnier than leroy or -50 dkp!
14:30.10[MoonWolf]it was funny, eeeuh 5 years ago.
14:30.44TekkubX3 is gonna kick ass, they managed to make Fraiser sexy
14:30.52Tekkubyou know what I'm hoping for?
14:31.00[MoonWolf]pics
14:31.09[MoonWolf]beast turns out gay ?
14:31.10Tekkubhot steamy scene with Beast and Wolverine
14:31.32[MoonWolf]wolverine hmmmm, *makes a weird mental connection*
14:31.35[MoonWolf]no thank you.
14:31.42Mikmawho's fraiser :P
14:31.46NeronixI'm with Moon :P
14:31.51Tekkub*facepalm*
14:31.56TainI don't think his "unbreakable" skeleton extends down there.
14:31.58Tekkublern2Cheers
14:32.04Mikmaname of an actor or character?
14:32.08Tekkubyou don't?
14:32.17TekkubI did, Fraiser
14:32.30TekkubChelsey (sp?) Grammer
14:32.34TainThe only guy who went on from Cheers to do anything, besides Woody.
14:33.07NeronixWell, the only thing I need to do before releasing is to stop fubar modules, npcs, etc from being mouseoverable while the world map frame is up
14:33.32Neronixthey're only mouseoverable in the grey parts, not the actual map itself or the dropdown boxes
14:33.33TekkubI'm just happy they did well, Beast is one of the few that doesn't change around, he's always in his sexy form
14:33.48TainHe should be great.  
14:33.56TainI have low hopes for the rest of the movie though.
14:34.16Tekkubsounds like you need to abjust the frame elements around the map
14:34.33Tekkubyea I wonder what they're gonna do with Jean
14:35.06Tekkubfrom the looks of the trailer, she comes back as Phoenix, has no clue who she is, and Magneto uses her to his advantage
14:35.20TainI would have loved it I'm sure if Bryan Singer stayed on.
14:35.35[MoonWolf]there is one problem with beast though
14:35.38Tekkubwas he other blue sexy beast?
14:35.38TainBut handing off the reins to someone else after that setup, I have instant doubts.
14:35.48TainNo, the director.
14:36.03Tekkuboh, *shrug* new director is furry
14:36.04[MoonWolf]How does he look when soaked... or smell for that matter.
14:36.06TainHe did the first two and then jumped ship to direct the new Superman.
14:36.51TekkubWell moon, it'll take a lot of bukakke to get his soaked, better get started early
14:36.53[MoonWolf]so this movie explores some original story lines.
14:37.23TainYes, the first two movies served to instroduce characters and background, mostly.
14:37.24[MoonWolf]and how does he look when blow dry him after a shower/bath
14:37.40TainThe original idea was to launch a franchise based on previous comic storylines.
14:37.42Mikmalike gizmo
14:38.02TainIt'll probably just be this movie and then the Wolverine solo film, and that's it now.
14:38.04Tekkuball fluffly and cute!
14:38.17[MoonWolf]i want the wolverine solo
14:38.26TekkubI'd solo wolvie
14:38.27Mikmame 2
14:38.28[MoonWolf]wolverine is one of the best developed chars in all of xman.
14:38.43TainHugh Jackman is under contract for it, but there isn't even a script yet.
14:38.46Mikmasmall, and full ot attitude
14:38.49TekkubI've always liked beast and wolvie
14:39.17Tekkubthe rest can go sit and spin... the Picard kinda revived Xaivier for me
14:39.34TainYeah, but I liked Wolverine better before every hack writer who spent two issues on him added their own twist to Wolverine's background.
14:39.35[MoonWolf]Xavier was always nice... but it takes a good acter.
14:39.36TekkubI always thought he was a creepy bald guy before
14:39.38Mikmawolverine, colossus, havok(or something)
14:39.57TainOf course always had the hots for young miss Kitty Pryde.
14:40.25TainCute, mutant AND a computer hacker?  Mmm mmm baby.
14:40.26Tekkubwhatshishead the teleporty blue guy ain't half bad either
14:40.26[MoonWolf]kitty can go blow something up.
14:40.37[MoonWolf]german somthing.
14:40.43TainNightcrawler
14:40.46Tekkubyea germans are good people *grin*
14:40.55[MoonWolf]no he has a german name too.
14:40.57Tekkubtho the priest thing... hrm...
14:41.00Mikmakurt
14:41.04Tekkubmeans he's def gay
14:41.11TekkubKurt Vonnegut!
14:41.16Tekkubwait no...
14:41.24TainKurt Vonnegut is gay?!
14:41.31[MoonWolf]I like cable myself, the old one, not the new is hanging out with the xman one.
14:41.35Tekkubno, he's just a crazy old man
14:41.58Tekkubwho writes good books :)
14:42.21TainEhn Cable is a sucka
14:42.42TekkubI can't think of any other furry xmen I'd love to pounce
14:42.49Tekkub*whine*
14:43.13TainAngel?  Ah that's more those avian types.
14:43.27[MoonWolf]angel is fucked in the head.
14:43.28Mikmaold angel or the cyber-angel
14:43.39Tekkubno by furry I mean hair not necessarily anthro-furry
14:44.05Tekkubheh
14:44.06Tekkubhttp://www.maryhartz.com/xmen/
14:45.06[MoonWolf]when do we get gambit inot the xman movies
14:45.30TainAw Stacy Kiebler has a boyfriend
14:45.57TekkubI never liked gambit
14:46.14TekkubSay it frenchie! Say chowdah!
14:46.31TainI like that Gambit was an evil douchebag before he joined the XMen.
14:46.51[MoonWolf]I like that gambit is always hitting on rogue, and FAILING
14:46.54Tekkuband now he's just a douchbag in tights?
14:47.11TainHe's just dumb.
14:47.15TainMmmm forbidden donut
14:47.18Tekkubrogue sucks, she can't even stealth
14:47.42Tekkubstab stab stab
14:48.17Mikmajesus this patch takes forever to download
14:48.17[MoonWolf]eeuh, look, i got superhuman power and i can fly. and i emo over killing my boyfriend every second episode/comic.
14:48.51TainLIfe's rough.
14:49.19Tekkuboh oh oh... maybe HE was Emo and she absobed that
14:49.31Tekkubso she's all emo over killing her emoish self
14:49.42Tekkub*boggle*
14:50.12Tekkubit's like a positive emo feedback loop
14:51.49[MoonWolf]lol
14:52.24Tekkubokey me go make sleep now, have naughty dreams about Beast and Wolvie
14:52.52Neronixnight
14:54.03[MoonWolf]oh god.
14:54.04TainHeadline of the day, "Piano teacher arrested for trying to play in A minor"
14:54.10[MoonWolf]why is the world full of weird people.
14:55.39NeronixIs it the background layer of a frame that prevents items under said frame from being mouseovered?
14:56.16Mikmahmm now i need a good free lua-editor for pc :P
14:57.01Lucenhttp://www.editplus.com/
14:57.23TainSCiTE
14:57.51TainWell here's your choices, although not all are free.
14:57.52Tainhttp://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaEditorSupport
14:58.21Mikmathanks, i'll check them out
14:58.40TainSciTE just happens to be my favorite and has a nice package here.  http://gisdeveloper.tripod.com/scite.html
14:58.45NeronixScite is nice, lightweight and crossplatform
14:59.21Luceni really need to try scite out one of these days
15:00.54Mikmai'll do it now since there ain't smultron on windöwz
15:01.33ShyvaI like dreamweaver =)
15:01.40id`Im making a gnome rogue
15:01.43id`how to call her
15:01.46id`:P
15:02.03id`http://vim.org
15:03.01Mikmahttp://a.as-us.falkag.net/dat/bgf/200603/30/classics_newshirts-125x600.gif
15:03.23Mikmanice shirts :D i wan't the top one
15:03.27id`:P
15:04.21Shyvahttp://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=122 this one rocks
15:08.17otraviyay, my warlock alt got shadow bolt rank X :D
15:09.55NeronixGrats
15:10.11NeronixBtw, do the new ranks drop in aq20 or 40?
15:11.18otraviaq20
15:12.39[MoonWolf]morning cladhaire , i locked the thread about the frame constructor, i hope you do not mind.
15:13.11cladhaireno problem =)
15:16.34TainMoonWolf is ruining all the fun
15:16.53[MoonWolf]no need for flaming over such a stupid thing.
15:19.42TainYeah, I guess his last comment just went over the edge of having absolutely any possible redeeming value.
15:19.54cladhairehahaha
15:19.57cladhaireaaw i wanted to respond =)
15:20.03Lucencode question, for AceUnitFrames: http://ace.pastebin.com/675224
15:20.28Luceni converted to metrognome, but I'm having strange problems with the local hb variable
15:20.29[MoonWolf]he was acting stupid before, then cladhaire got slightly edgy in his responses, eh doesnt let down, then cladhaire simply tells him to stop, and then he does taht.
15:20.33[MoonWolf]flame waiting to happen.
15:21.05Lucenoh wait...nvm..i am a complete idiot
15:21.18Lucenthat's what i get for debuging half asleep
15:22.34Lucenwell..at least the player buff issue is partially fixed
15:23.46cladhaire=)
15:23.49cladhaireTekkub said it perfectly
15:23.52cladhairei dont speak up unless i'm right
15:23.55cladhaireand when i'm right, i'm right
15:25.41[MoonWolf]If he is any trouble in pm's or something, let me or tem know.
15:26.23TainPssh if he's in trouble in PMs post them for all of us.
15:29.47psychoChipmunk<PROTECTED>
15:29.49psychoChipmunkoops
15:30.07cladhaireI loved when he told me I never told him he was misunderstanding =)
15:30.10cladhairethat was my favorit
15:30.59[MoonWolf]oh yes, by far the most smart comment i has seen in a long time.
15:38.20Eraphineckknight_, are you about?
15:41.40CIA-1303cladhaire * r558 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidLocals.lua):
15:41.40CIA-13PerfectRaid:
15:41.40CIA-13* Added some debug information for the sorting error for me only but everyone gets to see it =)
15:41.40CIA-13* Added a /praid manathreshold <0-100> command, which sets the low mana threshold.
15:47.35cladhaireOk.
15:47.50cladhaireduring zoning UnitName("raidX") where X is my raidID is returning nil for UnitName()
15:47.52cladhaireany ideas?
15:48.48hyperChipmunksec, I might have dealt with that one before
15:49.34cladhairek k =)
15:49.44cladhairethat'd be spectacular.
15:50.09hyperChipmunkn/m it's after PEW
15:50.15hyperChipmunksorry =\
15:50.29cladhairehuh?
15:50.31cladhairewhat do you mean
15:50.47hyperChipmunkit's triggered; it won't happen during zoning
15:50.58cladhaireb ut what did you see?
15:51.04hyperChipmunkthe place where I use a similar construct in one of my own addons
15:51.36hyperChipmunknothing; just an addon I wrote awhile ago, with the possibility of having come across the same problem
15:51.44hyperChipmunkdoesn't look like i did, though
15:52.10hyperChipmunksorry =( false alarm
15:52.18hyperChipmunkoh
15:53.01hyperChipmunkbut unless they changed something recently, you can't rely on raid id's for anything
15:53.04hyperChipmunkI do remember that =P
15:53.19hyperChipmunkeverytime I wanted to use them, I had to loop through them
15:53.24cladhairewell I need them =(
15:53.30cladhaireand i dont think they're changing =(
15:53.38Cairennhey guys
15:53.58hyperChipmunkI don't know of any way of keeping them reliably stable
15:54.02hyperChipmunkhi cai
15:54.30Mikmahum di daa
15:54.41Mikmatoday i will test PerfectRaid during our MC
15:54.45Mikmalet's see what happens
15:55.46cladhairelol
15:55.49cladhaireCairenn: Hey hun =)
15:55.54Cairenn:)
15:56.19Cairennhow are folks today?
15:56.20cladhaireIf I force a status (aura, offline, etc) update.. how often should I do it.. every 10 seconds?  5 seconds?
15:56.26hyperChipmunkomg tem fixed Tab
15:58.46ThianaAnyone know offhand which chat event shows the mob is fleeing?
15:58.55hyperChipmunkemote
15:58.55cladhaireCHAT_MSG_ZOMG_RUN!!!
15:58.57cladhaire=)
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15:59.08ThianaThanks :)
15:59.31Cairennlol cladhaire
16:00.31hyperChipmunkactually
16:00.35hyperChipmunkmight be CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_EMOTE
16:00.49otravi"might"
16:00.55hyperChipmunkwell I know it's an emote
16:01.14hyperChipmunkI forgot that there might be a specific monster_emote event
16:03.44ThianaIt is monster_emote, thanks :)
16:08.11cladhairehyperChipmunk: When you zone.. you're not a member of your own rd.
16:08.14cladhaires/rd/raid/
16:09.11hyperChipmunkthere ya go =p
16:09.20hyperChipmunkthat'd certainly do it =)
16:09.26cladhaireThats fooked up tho
16:09.33hyperChipmunkexplains why you showed me offline when i logged in =)
16:10.06hyperChipmunkI found it hard to believe, since to have the addon loaded, it kinda required me to be online
16:13.04cladhairewell that shouldn't happen either
16:13.04cladhairelol
16:13.05cladhaire*shrug*
16:13.06cladhaireits weird.
16:15.16cladhaireDamn.. i dont want to include ridiculous logic =(
16:17.14hyperChipmunkTem, this is beautiful
16:17.17hyperChipmunkI love you man
16:18.44Wobin_Thiana: Are you using Iriel's devtools?
16:19.35ThianaIf that is the one that adds the /dump command, yes.
16:19.44hyperChipmunk<3 dump
16:19.52Wobin_There's also one that adds a link to each chatline that shows the source
16:19.56Wobin_/dtchatevents
16:20.04Wobin_You may have to grab the latest versoin
16:20.05hyperChipmunkO-o
16:20.11Wobin_very cool =)
16:20.16ThianaOh very nice :) Thanks :)
16:20.18hyperChipmunkyea, that's not in mine
16:20.21hyperChipmunkvery slick
16:24.24Thianahttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 has it Chipmunk.
16:24.34ThianaThanks Wobin :)
16:26.07hyperChipmunkyep, just downloaded
16:30.39cladhaire<PROTECTED>
16:30.44cladhairei wrote /dtchatevents like a month ago
16:30.45cladhaireliterally
16:30.57cladhairehttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4614
16:31.28otraviI've used that addon :D
16:31.33hyperChipmunkyea, but I already have DevTools
16:31.59Mikmacladhaire: so watchdog works perfectly with PerfectRaid?
16:33.12Wobin_Anyone here able to help out with some german/french localisations?
16:33.20cladhaireMikma: Yep =)
16:33.31cladhaireMikma: And easily with any click-casting mod.
16:33.36cladhairethe code is simple, I hate that other people don't do it.
16:34.00Mikmacladhaire: watchdog always heals with the best heal right?
16:35.31NeronixI'm beginning to love that frame stack feature already
16:35.41Neronixfinally got some vague idea on how to fix this shit :P
16:35.54cladhaireMikma: No, we do NOT heal selection
16:38.39Mikmaoh yeah, so i have to set either AceHeal into watchdog or Flash Heal(Rank z)
16:43.55cladhairey6eah
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16:48.33NeronixIf you could mouseover (and click!) things that were underneath the grey part of the world map window, would it annoy you?
16:50.27[MoonWolf]yes
16:50.49Neronixdamn
16:50.58Neronix>.<
16:51.13hyperChipmunkheh, PR needs to go away when you leave a raid
16:51.25hyperChipmunkrather than telling you that everyone in your raid is offline =x
16:54.00cladhairehyperChipmunk: yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
16:54.00cladhairewhatever =)
16:54.10TainThats
16:54.14TainThat's what you get for joining raids.
17:02.54Mikmacladhaire: i get an error all the time from watchdog. i tried to disable all and get:
17:03.00otraviUI Memory usage (while in a raid): 12.284MB
17:03.06otravi<3 PerfectRaid :----D
17:03.23MikmaWatchDog.lua:1367: attempt to call method 'UnHook' (a nil value)
17:03.43otraviisn't it Unhook :o ?
17:03.49otravior.. watchdog doesn't use ace :p
17:04.56otraviMikma: change it to Unhook, since I think it uses AceHook
17:05.05Mikmaotravi: got it, changing
17:06.08cladhaireMikma: Yeah =)
17:06.12cladhairetypo i haven't fixed =)
17:06.17Mikmabtw it's svn version :)
17:06.25cladhaireyeah i havn't updated it.
17:06.47Mikmammkay then, glad it's easy to fix. btw PerfectRaid <3
17:06.54cladhairehehe
17:06.55cladhaire=)
17:07.20Mikmalooks just too.. porn on my ui
17:16.42Mikmacladhaire: how can i stop the "PerfectRaid: Sorting. Found xx members." -spam?
17:17.08hyperChipmunksearch the file and comment it out
17:17.27hyperChipmunkit's the first 'Sort' from the top of the file
17:17.43Mikmathanks :)
17:18.10Mikmaooh this backdrop is sweet
17:20.17ckknight_hey all
17:29.37cladhaireMikma: I can commit and you can download =)
17:30.51CIA-1303cladhaire * r559 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidLocals.lua):
17:30.51CIA-13PerfectRaid:
17:30.51CIA-13* Fixed the error people were seeing on zoning (I hope)
17:30.51CIA-13* Added /praid scale which lets you set the scale on the frame (untested)
17:31.45otraviI'll test it now!
17:32.04cladhaireit wont save between sessions, reloads or raid changes =)
17:32.28cladhairei'm in dire maul, so I didn't do much wi it.
17:32.28otravi:-P
17:33.25otraviyou might want to add what the max scale is on the info message :p
17:33.34NeronixRight, I seriously need help
17:33.39cladhaire2.0
17:33.42cladhaireand its limited at 2.0
17:33.43NeronixI've tried as much as I could think of
17:34.08otraviI noticed that :)
17:35.11*** join/#wowace Tekcub (n=Tekk@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net)
17:35.25Mikmacladhaire: /perfectraid sort class <3
17:35.48CIA-1303ckknight * r560 10FuBar_HonorFu/ (GloryLib.lua HonorFu.lua HonorFuLocals-deDE.lua):
17:35.48CIA-13FuBar_HonorFu -
17:35.48CIA-13Fixed deDE name for HonorFu
17:35.48CIA-13Updated to most recent GloryLib
17:36.16otravisetting it to 1.05 will make the WW be turned into W... :p
17:36.17cladhaireMikma: It works, or you just love it?  or both
17:36.26cladhaireotravi: Thats fine.. that's whY i do it
17:36.33cladhaireWW is the swidest string in your deafault font.
17:36.36NeronixI've managed to get the world map to open without closing other windows, but the grey parts of the frame (Bits at the top and bottom) allow things underneath to be mouseovered and even clicked (e.g fubar modules, unit frames I'm using, etc). I've tried making a 1024x768 frame (along with a 1024x768 black texture parented to it) which is parented to worldmapframe and it doesn't seem to help
17:36.45phyberooo, praid scale.  <update and reloadui>
17:36.51otravicladhaire: I guessed so :)
17:37.05otravibut the newest version of PerfectRaidTargets (cough Tekcub) is slightly more bugged
17:37.42phyberPerfectRaidTargets needs to remember its position instead of going over to the left every time ;)
17:38.07otraviI'll get a screen up
17:38.13Mikmacladhaire: works, and i love it
17:38.23hyperChipmunkscale is great
17:38.35NeronixI'll guess nobody can help me :(
17:39.05phyberMmmm, scaling.  so nice :)
17:39.07cladhairephyber: What are you talking about?
17:39.26cladhaireOH
17:39.26cladhaireprt
17:39.27cladhaire<PROTECTED>
17:39.28cladhairelol
17:39.32cladhairei get confused.
17:39.42phyberyeah, PRT, nothing wrong with PR at all. <3
17:39.47cladhairegood =)
17:40.21otraviTekcub: http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_042206_193725.png << *cough*
17:40.42cladhaireotravi: Type /praid reset
17:40.45cladhaireget rid of the WW's
17:41.00otravicladhaire: I just reloaded :)
17:41.10cladhaireotravi: Still, make sure you /praid reset to get the options set correctly
17:41.18cladhaireanytime the versino changes, you need to /praid reset during beta =)
17:41.24otravicladhaire: aye
17:41.26cladhairey9ou swhoudln't have to.. but fro your versino to this version
17:41.32phyberi think those WWs are the beginning of spam for his pr0n site, but he failed by putting HP bars and names in the way.
17:41.45*** join/#wowace Tem (n=Tem@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net)
17:41.45*** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ
17:41.58cladhaireAfternoon Tem
17:42.06Temafternoon
17:42.08Tem*glee*
17:42.15TemI passed Decursive in downloads last night
17:42.19[MoonWolf]*bark*
17:42.33NeronixHey Tem
17:42.33[MoonWolf]you go tem!
17:43.34Temhaha!
17:43.39ckknightdamn, Tem
17:43.40Tembad fucking ass
17:43.43Temcheck this out
17:43.43ckknightyou bumped me off the top 10
17:43.50TemI know, sorry
17:43.57TemI was hoping you'd be above decursive
17:44.01Temand we would bump it
17:44.05[MoonWolf]tem is going to make #1 come patch 1.11
17:44.10Temlol
17:44.13Temnot going to happen
17:44.29Temok, you know how the minimap has the arrow
17:44.50Temturns out, it's a model frame
17:44.58cladhaireO RLY
17:45.04Temand.. it has GetFacing()
17:45.05cladhairecan we make it a head-bobbing versino of us?
17:45.09cladhairezomg
17:45.17cladhairewhats the model name, I wanna play =)
17:45.23Temlocal a = -1 * minimapPlayerModel:GetFacing() + (math.pi * 0.75);
17:45.27Temit has no name
17:45.29Temyou have to find it
17:45.35Temvia MinimapGetChildren
17:45.35id`http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7796/wowscrnshot0422061939281qq.jpg
17:45.39id`g0t gui?
17:45.43*** join/#wowace Parak (n=profi@user-0cev737.cable.mindspring.com)
17:45.48Elvisosomeone made a simple compass lastnight
17:45.52Elvisowho was that..
17:46.00TemBrodric
17:46.05TemI just saw it and was looking at his code
17:46.16Temer, Brodrick
17:47.32Wobin_yeah Kirov
17:47.34otraviid`: http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_042206_194559.png << points at mem usage :p
17:48.05Temoh, I didn't realize they were one and the same
17:48.34Elvisohttp://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/SimpleCompass.jpg
17:49.02Temok... PRT is too screen-greedy
17:49.35otraviyeh it is :p
17:49.51otravibut I like it :)
17:50.05*** join/#wowace Neronix`afk (i=omg@user-2035.l5.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk)
17:50.14TemI like it too, but I want it to look different
17:50.42otraviI want the background to work as intended
17:50.48otraviand not flicker up and down
17:50.52TemI want the Background to go away
17:51.04Temand I want a Target's Target display
17:51.52id`otravi: is that good or bad? ;D
17:52.09otraviid`: 12.X in a raid is in my opionion good :p
17:52.34id`oki
17:52.38Temid`: considering that Miravlix (one of the cosmos devs) has a mem usage of >100MB, I'd say that's damn good
17:54.45id`lmao thats crazy tem
17:54.50Wobin_that's insane
17:54.50ckknightthat is crazy
17:54.52Temyeah well...
17:54.54Temcosmos
17:54.56Tem*cough*
17:54.57ckknightit does make sense for his character
17:55.03Temhaha
17:55.05Temindeed
17:55.18Wobin_If it follows Anduin Lothar's... well... memory use isn't an issue =P
17:55.25id`I find it funny that 'cosmos people' look at all ace addons ever released + ace as one thing
17:55.29id`and compare that to cosmos
17:55.41id`even then... it owns cosmos
17:55.42id`;)
17:55.53otravihello whine comment in timex thread!
17:57.56ckknightlol, yea
17:58.07Mikmacladhaire: does the yellow "mana" mean he's short on it or is drinking
17:58.28cladhaireMikma: Short.. i dont do drinking =)
17:58.40cladhaireShould change it to LoM or LowMana tho
18:04.33[MoonWolf]actually its more the cosmos users who have a problem with ace then the cosmos decs
18:04.40[MoonWolf]and that is even more of a WTF
18:05.19NeronixThe more puzzling question is why Cosmos is still being used O.o
18:05.23TemAnduinLothar doesn't like us, because "we have a smear campaign to make Ace look good and Cosmos look bad by spreading lies"
18:06.17[MoonWolf]on the other hands, you wont see him spread FUD about ace either.
18:06.22[MoonWolf]he doesnt like us. thats fine.
18:06.22Mikmacladhaire: why not change "Mana" to "OOM" :)
18:06.27otraviTem: what "lies" :p ?
18:06.31Temoh oh!
18:06.34Temhere's a good one
18:06.36Tem"So instead of contributing your ideas and comments to improving an existing dependency that many addons already use, you decided to create a new dependency, that will never be completely adopted by all authors which now has to be used in addition to dependencies already available. You are not saving any resources, you are actually causing users to waste more."
18:06.37otraviI only know of Timex VS Chronos
18:06.56TemI lol'd
18:06.58otravihaha
18:07.03Neronixlmao
18:07.10Neronixtres retarded :P
18:07.37[MoonWolf]oooh, a dependency about the size of a regular jpg file.
18:08.05cladhaireMikma: Cause its not OOM, its technically LOM
18:08.07NeronixI remember over a year ago when Cosmos hit primetime
18:08.19Neronixand I used it as my firsy try of addons
18:08.26Neronixand immediately, I smelled something was up
18:08.44Neronixthis was before I knew anything about efficiency, etc
18:08.55Mikmacladhaire: oh, true that
18:08.58Wobin_hehe when everything screeched to a crawl
18:08.59Neronixshows you exactly how bad it used to be :P
18:09.12otraviooh, I remember when I used cosmos
18:09.23Mikmaffs i hate windows-keys
18:09.29otraviand I always got a: Not enough UI mem avaible. Please restart your client every 2h :p
18:09.32Mikmais there any way to disable them??
18:09.42otraviMikma: there is, but I don't remember how :D
18:09.44Mikmaotravi: change the UI mem to 0 :)
18:09.56Mikmain the AddOns -menu i mean
18:10.12otraviMikma: this is a long time ago :)
18:10.32Mikmacladhaire: offline -text doesn't seem to update on some occasions
18:10.49Mikmacladhaire: or is there some time for it to show?
18:11.24Temcladhaire: the frames don't disappear when you leave a raid
18:11.36[MoonWolf]i think he knows now people.
18:11.40cladhaireTem:  I know
18:11.49Temso... fix it?
18:11.49cladhaireMikma: Yeah, i have to get some more events in there, and force updates, etc.
18:12.01id`Tain: you here?
18:12.10Mikmacladhaire: ok, glad you know :)
18:12.46Mikmafor some reason... seems like this 800MHz PC is faster than my 1.2GHz mac
18:13.00Temcladhaire: can I request you use the LoM indicator that was in the concept drawing?
18:13.00otraviillusion made by windows
18:13.04Temit was awesome
18:13.18Temand shorter
18:13.18Mikmaotravi: >.<
18:13.31id`otravi: no, by the mac
18:13.52id`:P
18:14.30otraviI like macs :(
18:14.40[MoonWolf]hamburgers good!
18:14.50otraviI am DPS, here is my hammer?
18:15.00TemHammertime!
18:15.06TemCan't touch this!
18:15.22Mikmahmmh :)
18:15.34Mikmagoogle to the rescue
18:15.35Temwow... that makes me want to make a mod that throws up a timer when a pally or mage immunes
18:15.51cladhaireTem: No, because then I have to use textures.. right now its a single font string.
18:16.04Temcladhaire: anchor the fontstring to the right side of the texture
18:16.10NeronixI found a mod that plays the super mario invulnerability theme when a pally shields XD
18:16.14cladhaireI dont want a texture when I dont need one.
18:16.20Tembut...
18:16.23Temit was better
18:16.24cladhaireanchoring isn't the issue.
18:16.27cladhaireSo help me make this better
18:16.30cladhairei'm not adding graphics.
18:16.34cladhaireit goes against what this is all about.
18:16.36Tem<PROTECTED>
18:16.50Mikmahttp://johnhaller.com/jh/useful_stuff/disable_windows_key/
18:16.51Mikmacool
18:16.53cladhaireyou don't gain anything from it
18:17.00Temit was prettier
18:17.10cladhairenot that much prettier
18:17.18Wobin_Neronix: ImbaPally =)
18:17.32NeronixWobin_: Yeah, that one :)
18:17.44cladhaireTem: What other icons am i going to use then?
18:17.45Wobin_Isn't is usually the lower lip that sticks out?
18:17.52cladhaireit very useless to add a texture JUST for oom
18:17.59Tempsh
18:18.08Wobin_WT
18:18.19Wobin_WTB background scanning of the AH
18:18.41TemWobin_: totally do-able
18:18.53Wobin_Even if the window isn't open? =)
18:18.54TemWobin_: but I dunno how to make it clean
18:19.06Wobin_I wanna bugger off and do stuff =P
18:19.11Temoh, then no
18:19.13Mikmacladhaire: ok 1 question more. what does the yellow > mean infront of name?
18:19.22cladhaireMikma: Thats the person you have targeted.
18:19.25CIA-1303lucen * r561 10AceUnitFrames/ (5 files):
18:19.25CIA-13AceUnitFrames:
18:19.26CIA-13- Small bug fixes for NameBar errors
18:19.26CIA-13- Removed Timex dependency. Moved to Metrognome
18:19.26CIA-13- Reworked Player buff/debuff mechanics. Should not have issues with timers stopping or buffs not showing up anymore
18:19.27CIA-13- Increased Target update time to .5 sec by default
18:19.29CIA-13- Added FactionColor option to NameBar. Similar to RaidColor. NameBar text will now be white by default.
18:20.18ckknightso does anyone know why Dynamically created GameTooltips don't work right?
18:20.19Wobin_at least KCI is fairly fast in scanning
18:20.22cladhaireTem: Seriously, if you can think of more graphics to add, let me know.
18:20.36Temlol asking me for graphics
18:20.55TemI have the artistic skills of a retarded dog
18:21.07id`Tem: depending on how you look at it..
18:21.15id`xD
18:21.38NeronixOk, got to ask you guys something
18:22.15Tem[MoonWolf]: can you do me a favor?
18:22.15Neronixsee if you could mouseover things underneath the grey part of the worldmap window (eg, fubar plugins, buffs, npcs, whatever), would you find it annoying?
18:22.22[MoonWolf]Tem, sure.
18:22.24[MoonWolf]what is it ?
18:22.39Tem[MoonWolf]: make a thread in the admin forum with at least 2 posts
18:22.46[MoonWolf]on it.
18:22.47Tem[MoonWolf]: I want to play with thread splitting
18:23.09Tem[MoonWolf]: see if I can split a thread to give people who have taken over addons the first post of the topic
18:23.56Temthanks [MoonWolf]
18:24.13id`Neronix: yes
18:24.17[MoonWolf]done.
18:24.18cladhaireAdnt eh award for most overuse of auto-completion is TEM!
18:24.37phyberMikma: you should get a Logitech G15, there is a switch on it to disable the Windows key.  as a bonus, you get to have n00bs complaining that you can make macros on the keyboard.
18:24.43Temcladhaire: you know there is a reason I wrote Tab
18:24.46id`Neronix: either not that or making the world map part of the interface as opposed to now - kinda separate
18:24.52Temcladhaire: it's because I'm too damned lazy to type people's names
18:25.07Mikmaphyber: the bad thing is blizzard has propably banned the users of G15
18:25.08[MoonWolf]now to download underworld 2
18:25.08otraviLucen: me loves you!
18:25.15NeronixGah
18:26.00Mikma[MoonWolf]: i did like underworld... but after all it's Kate in PVC ... ;)
18:26.03NeronixOk, guess I'll have to continue working out wtf I need to do to fix it...
18:26.06Tem[MoonWolf]: damn.  What I need is to be able to attatch a thread's contents to another thread, but I can't
18:26.11Tem[MoonWolf]: maybe kaelten can
18:27.10Lucenotravi: hehe...let me know if you have any issues with it
18:27.57Mikmaanyone else noticed how KCI's separated tooltips go over the screen
18:28.00CIA-1303cladhaire * r562 10WatchDog/WatchDog/ (WatchDog.lua WatchDogCustom.lua):
18:28.00CIA-13WatchDog:
18:28.00CIA-13* Fixed the UnHook typo in the blizzard raid hooks
18:28.00CIA-13* Added the spell levels for Divine Spirit
18:28.23phyberyup, I noticed when highlighting my bags, since they're at the bottom of the screen
18:28.52otraviLucen: I'll smack it in now :)
18:31.35CIA-1303cladhaire 07WatchDog-1.20.2 * r563 10WatchDog/: WatchDog: Tagging for 1.20.2 release
18:32.53[MoonWolf]kaelten should be able to go into the database and change the topic starter by hand
18:32.58[MoonWolf]making them the owner.
18:33.03Temeven better
18:34.11TainEveryone outside in the world is an asshole today.
18:34.40TainI had to run to the store, very simple, and everyone around me needed screaming at.
18:34.49[MoonWolf]lo
18:34.53[MoonWolf]lol*
18:37.34Mikmai miss my mac :(
18:37.51Mikmai think it's kinda unfair that i have to pay for extended guarantee...
18:38.00Mikmaand i wasn't even informed that there was one
18:38.18Mikmawell let's hope i have still got it or else i have to pay for new HDD + works
18:38.31Temcladhaire: clad|sleep: PerfectRaid.lua:366: attempt to compare nil with string
18:38.39Temcladhaire: got that last night during a zone
18:39.08Mikmacladhaire: regarding to tem, i had an error moment ago after reloggin into game. can't remember it anymore but i will let you know if it comes again
18:39.40Tembah screw writing this on paper
18:40.45cladhaireTem|AFK: That'sa fixed issue.. or it should be
18:41.01Tem|AFKcladhaire: when did you "fix" it?
18:41.03cladhaireTem|AFK: Happens because "player" leaves the raid during zoning.. so UnitName("raidid") is null for you
18:41.06cladhaireTem|AFK: SVN this morning.
18:41.11Tem|AFKah, k
18:41.18Tem|AFKI haven't used that version yet
18:41.23Tem|AFKlooking forward
18:41.27cladhaireTem|AFK: I'm now processing Updatevisibility in the first OnUpdate AFTER P_E_W
18:41.32cladhairebut i haven't tested it yet.
18:41.34Tem|AFKnow I really must go spend some money
18:41.47Tem|AFKhole in pocket
18:41.50Tem|AFKyou know the drill
18:42.10cladhaireword.
18:42.11cladhairehave fujn
18:42.37ckknightPEW PEW
18:42.40ckknightlazers!
18:43.36Tem|AFK253 dollars for sitting on my ass and talking to you guys
18:43.43Tem|AFKwewt
18:43.44FryGuydoes the XRaid authoer ever come into here? moonsorrow I think?
18:43.48MikmaTem|AFK: rofl
18:44.01Tem|AFKstudent tech jobs rock
18:50.02CIA-1303otravi * r564 10otravi_UnitFrames/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: otravi_UnitFrames - Removed the manipulations of AUF. It's no longer needed with the new version of AUF.
18:51.10otraviFryGuy: He has been here before (points at rownes classes)
18:52.37phyberhmm, reloading the ui in a raid seems to have made PRT ignore the maintank list, even on a /ora maintank list
18:53.42otraviphyber: /ora request
18:54.14FryGuyooh
18:54.30FryGuythat will get them without having to bug the raid leader to redo the mtt?
18:54.39otraviyes
18:54.43FryGuysweeet
18:54.49phyberahh, there it is
18:54.51otravisame as /raupdate
18:55.02otravimaybe I haven't added the shorthand for that :o
18:55.04otravi*checks*
18:55.14FryGuydon't you need to be promoted to do the /raupdate?
18:55.23phyberI only used a few ctra commands, so I wasnt aware of /raupdate :)
18:55.31FryGuyi mean in ctra
18:55.48otraviFryGuy: hmm, I might be mixing the CTRA slashes now :p
18:57.58otraviI'll have a look at it
18:58.05otravibut there is a request function in CTRA
18:59.13Mikmaag`: the whole frame flashes, player now has the text "GHOST" ..
19:13.44ag`huh?
19:14.01ag`if you're dead it will say ghost
19:15.07Mikmaag`: well i was meaning it works
19:19.56ag`ok ^
19:19.59ag`^^
19:20.54otraviI blame the ".." part
19:22.08Mikmawow, my mac booted but it still has that horrible sound on it
19:22.55Lucenget as much stuff off it as you can, as quick as you can, imo
19:23.25Mikmayeah i will
19:24.10Mikmabut i still think the data will be corrupted
19:24.12CIA-1303ckknight * r565 10FuBar/ (BabbleLib.lua FuBarPlugin.lua): FuBar - fixed hiding of icon if can't hide text.
19:25.08Mikmai think i have to delete my porns now if i get it to "work" ;)
19:29.01otraviLucen: the AUF is it with the growing bars also (I can't remember what it's called, and I haven't checked)
19:29.14Lucennot yet
19:29.24Lucenthristerhall never released that version :(
19:29.34Luceni'm gonna work on coding it in though
19:29.42Lucenor trying anyway
19:29.46otravihehe
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19:35.18phyberis it possible to display the whole raid on the minimap, instead of jjust the members in your own group?
19:37.17Lucenotravi: what I really want to add is a casting bar to AUF
19:38.03otraviLucen: I dislike that thought :p
19:38.32otravibut then again, people are strange
19:38.41otraviI never understod why some unit frames has castingbars
19:38.46Lucenyeah..you're probably right
19:38.53Lucenit is a bit out of scope
19:39.15Luceni just need to write my own casting bar mod..hehe
19:39.59CIA-1303ckknight * r566 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - fix for Gypsy_Hotbar
19:40.29otraviI have been thinking about the same thing Lucen :p
19:40.46Lucenwell..hurry up and beat me to it!
19:40.50otravihaha :p
19:41.09otraviI was going to start on it today, if I get time.
19:42.58otravinow I just have to code the website I got in my mail :o
19:43.02Lucenhaha
19:43.08otraviand finish AQ20 ^^
19:44.03Lucengood plan
19:44.19Luceni'm trying to get of going to aq20 and zg tonight for more coding time...hehe
19:44.55otravicoding in the deadtime :) ?
19:45.12CIA-1303ramble * r567 10Angler/ (7 files):
19:45.12CIA-13Angler:
19:45.12CIA-13<PROTECTED>
19:45.12CIA-13<PROTECTED>
19:45.12CIA-13<PROTECTED>
19:45.50Lucenwe never have any deadtime sadly...well..not much anyway
19:46.00Lucenin raids that is
19:46.08Lucenbeing a healer sucks for deadtime too
19:47.07otraviI usually bring my warlock to MC, AQ20, ZG :)
19:48.20Lucenyeah..dps has it easy
19:48.54Luceni need to level my hunter to 60 so I can auto-follow and auto-shoot ;)
19:49.44phyberhey, dps isn't easy.  sometimes we have to stop and bandage, it's so confusing.
19:50.14otraviphyber: hehe
19:50.50Lucenhahaha
19:51.22Mikmaooh! World Poker Tour starts soon
19:54.18Lucenok..inverse health bars was increadibly easy
19:54.54otravilet me guess
19:54.58otravi* -1 ?
19:55.07Lucenmax-cur
19:55.12otravialmost :p
19:55.14Lucenhehe
19:55.27Lucenonly did it for the health and mana bars
19:55.32otravi*-1 would give a strange result tho' :p
19:55.39otraviwhen I started thinking over it
19:55.41Lucenyes...yes it would
19:55.55id`Jeeez
19:56.06id`20 kills, 5 flag returns, 2 captures
19:56.16otraviid`: and 39 deaths :D ?
19:56.16id`shit team had to do everything myself
19:56.17id`:P
19:56.24id`otravi: na 7 :>
19:56.43id`10-19 WSG xD
19:57.05Mikmahey, anyone knows the measures of laptop hdd's?
19:57.28Mikmais it 2.5inc or less?
19:57.55ag`It's 2.5 inches
19:58.13Mikmaag`: btw my mac's hdd is broken atm :P
19:58.43Mikma40GB 2.5inc costs 72e.. not bad
19:59.09otraviLucen: I'm fighting a "L??++ Boss" now :p
19:59.25Lucendoh..knew i forgot to add that change in the notes
20:00.40Lucenyou're using %elite and %classification?
20:02.07Lucen%elite gives +, ++, R+, or R now
20:02.28Lucenthat was one of the changes I made to my local copy when I first started using it
20:02.33Lucentotally forgot about it
20:02.52otraviI'm using %elite :)
20:03.06ag`Mikma, so is mine... I dropped it on the pavement
20:03.16Mikmaag`: yeah i remember you telling that :(
20:03.42otraviLucen: L%level%elite %smartclass << *points*
20:04.03Lucenahhhh
20:04.24MikmaARGH! Majordomo bug in bigwigs
20:04.33Mikmaspams the messages
20:04.44CIA-1303ckknight * r568 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua PanelClass.lua):
20:04.44CIA-13FuBar - locked bars no longer show resize cursor.
20:04.44CIA-13New bars are created from the same attach point.
20:05.15Temdry erase board bought and hung
20:05.15MikmaShyva: fix iiiiit
20:07.32id`Tain: you here?
20:09.29Lucenotravi: I'm going to add %eliterare as a new text var and put the old %elite back the way it was
20:10.00otraviI like the new one tho' :)
20:10.14otraviI just started to wonder when I first saw it
20:10.18Lucenhaha
20:10.33Temalright, that's a bit odd...
20:10.42Teman addon I haven't released is in a compilation
20:10.51Luceni always though +,++,R, and R+ always made more sense
20:11.06LucenTem: wha?
20:11.14TemDuctTape
20:11.17Temit's on the SVN
20:11.23otravi:D
20:11.26id`;o
20:11.27Tembut I haven't worked on it in ages
20:11.31id`whats it do?
20:11.35otraviwell, devla uses the SVN version of oRA :p
20:11.38CIA-1303wobin * r569 10MrPlow/ (5 files):
20:11.38CIA-13MrPlow - Version 3.
20:11.38CIA-13- Has bank stacking with three levels of stacking
20:11.38CIA-13- Merged the PT dependency to being an embedded library
20:11.38CIA-13~hug purl
20:11.39purlACTION hugs purl
20:11.47Temright now? Only does what ListFix used to do
20:11.48Wobin_bah =)
20:11.56id`lol wob
20:12.00Wobin_foiled!
20:12.13TemWobin_: do ~hug CIA-13
20:12.13id`Tem: k
20:12.16otraviWobin_: same as Mr. Boss
20:12.42Wobin_Tem: Yeah, I wasn't thinking right =)
20:12.49Wobin_It's late =P
20:12.54Wobin_well... damn early
20:12.58Temheh
20:13.42TemI'm really interested in the increase in attention my addons have gotten since I released Catalyst
20:14.17TemTab and WhoNote which were both nearly ignored addons have doubled their downloads in the last week
20:14.24hyperChipmunkdude
20:14.28hyperChipmunkthat's cuz you updated Tab
20:14.31hyperChipmunkand made it not suck
20:14.42hyperChipmunkI saw that today and whooped =)
20:14.53Temhuh?
20:14.56hyperChipmunkTab
20:14.58Temit never sucked
20:15.03hyperChipmunkwell, it was unusable
20:15.07Temno it wasn't
20:15.12Temit had 2 errors
20:15.20Temneither of which did I ever encounter on my own
20:15.35Temand I've been using it since january
20:15.58hyperChipmunkyou couldn't use it with /tell replies
20:16.11hyperChipmunkor rather
20:16.18hyperChipmunkyou couldn't cycle the replies
20:16.45hyperChipmunkcuz it blocked the key
20:16.52pagefaultcan I get +spell dmg on hands?
20:17.02hyperChipmunkyou can get specific schools
20:17.06pagefaulthm
20:17.07pagefaultok thanks
20:17.08hyperChipmunkshadow and frost, at least
20:17.11hyperChipmunklike +20
20:17.40pagefaultI just got my felheart gloves
20:17.45pagefaultneed to do something to them
20:17.45pagefault:)
20:17.50MikmaHAHA
20:18.04Mikmaat ragnaros mouseovering executus enables Executus-bigwigs
20:18.18hyperChipmunkhehe
20:18.56hyperChipmunkI went on my first real MC raid on Wednesday; none of my bigwigs worked =(
20:19.04hyperChipmunkthey just gave AceEvent errors
20:19.09hyperChipmunkI was so sad
20:19.13Temshadow, frost and fire to gloves
20:19.15Mikmahuh?
20:19.16phyberwe're just at Majordomo now :)
20:19.19TemAQ20 recipies
20:19.59Tembut they all require 3 nexus crystals
20:20.01Temand that hurts
20:20.29TemhyperChipmunk: if you only knew how long I've had that corrected on my local version...
20:23.28hyperChipmunk=\
20:23.38hyperChipmunkI tried to use it for a week
20:23.43hyperChipmunkit was great for bg invites
20:23.50hyperChipmunkor kicks
20:23.54hyperChipmunkI forget if it works for invites
20:24.43otraviLucen: btw, looked at why the blizz frames show up after you have played with Interface Options?
20:24.48hyperChipmunkbut I remember really wanting to be able to use it, but I just couldn't do without being able to cycle /tells
20:25.30Lucenotravi: umm..no actually..never had the problem. do the bliz frames just show up right away when you exit the interface options?
20:25.52otraviLucen: yes
20:26.02otraviI haven't looked at it myself, I'm never in there so.. :p
20:26.41pagefaultI wonder what crap I will need for that
20:27.19Lucengreeeaattt..this will be fun to figure out. Ok otravi, you make the casting bar and i'll figure out the blizz frame problem! ;)
20:27.27otravihaha :p
20:28.34otraviI'm somehow stuck in ZG now :o
20:28.59otraviI didn't sign up for the AQ20 raid, so I didn't read the: we do ZG afterwards :)
20:30.39Lucenhaha
20:34.06Neronix`afkDo all tooltips share a common parent, or some other thing I could use to hide them all?
20:34.14Neronix`afkapart from UIParent
20:34.50TemNeronix: no
20:35.06NeronixThat's plan k out the window :P
20:43.06CIA-1303ramble * r570 10Angler/ (4 files):
20:43.06CIA-13Angler:
20:43.06CIA-13<PROTECTED>
20:43.06CIA-13<PROTECTED>
20:43.06CIA-13<PROTECTED>
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20:50.59otraviLucen: btw, just tested it a little: only happens when you turn off: Hide Party Interface (under Raid)
20:51.40phyberbigwigs w
20:51.42phyberoops
20:51.49phyberbigwigs timers are great in the domo fight :)
20:53.17NeronixYES!
20:53.24NeronixI got it!
20:53.33otraviphyber: you should try the Chromaggus one :)
20:53.36NeronixWorldMapFrame:EnableMouse(1)
20:53.45[MoonWolf]brilliant.
20:55.20phyberotravi: soon I guess, at the moment we have easy wipe mode on Razorgore :)
20:55.20otraviphyber: hehe, horde or alliance :) ?
20:55.20phyberalliance.
20:55.20Lucenotravi: thanks! i'll look into it a bit further now
20:55.26phyberit was our first visit to the place the other day.
20:55.29phyberwe got maybe half of the eggs down before we wiped.
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21:05.56phybernice.  update to omni cooldown makes sure the number is on top now :)
21:06.21otraviokey.. that's it
21:06.30otraviI'm making an addon to auto-pass on the ZG coins
21:06.38Lucenhahaha
21:10.26Temotravi: MasterLooter is your friend
21:10.41CIA-1303cladhaire * r571 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidLocals.lua):
21:10.42CIA-13PerfectRaid:
21:10.42CIA-13* Added an option to set the vertical offset:
21:10.42CIA-13* /praid voffset <number>
21:10.42CIA-13* Number should be negative if you'd like to move the frames down, but you can set it to anything you want. The offset is only active when sorting by class or group.
21:11.42Temwhat's the offset for?
21:11.56otraviTem: and that is :D ?
21:12.11Temotravi: you guys don't use Master Loot?
21:12.11cladhaireseperating the groups or classes by an offset
21:12.25cladhairei.e. Rogue rogue rogue (10 pixels down) paladin paladin paladin
21:12.30Temcladhaire: oooh so you can have a "spacer" between sorted groups?
21:12.35cladhaireaye
21:12.43otraviTem: we use Group Loot in the 20-man instances, and free for all in the 40-man
21:12.49cladhairei kinda don't like it.. but i need to get into a 20/40 man raid to see it being useufl
21:12.57cladhaireits easy to turn of and its off in name mode (which i typically use)
21:13.12TemI like class view
21:13.16cladhaireme too
21:13.20cladhairebut name is easy for a healer
21:13.42Temthough, the one I'm really looking forward to is debuff
21:13.58cladhairedebuff?
21:14.12Temsort by who has a curse
21:14.35cladhaireyou could write it
21:14.38cladhairebut it would be bad
21:14.43Tembad, how?
21:15.02cladhaireyou wouldn't be able to target anyone.. they'd all be jupming around
21:15.12Temdoesn't matter
21:15.32cladhairei can put that mode in.. but right now sorting only happens on RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE
21:15.37TemI want it for the fights where that's what I care about
21:15.38cladhaireand only every 0.2 seconds at that
21:15.46cladhaireso you want a "needylist" mode?
21:15.48phybercladhaire: what's the default voffset?
21:15.51Temcladhaire: yeah
21:15.51phyber0?
21:15.56cladhairephyber: -5
21:16.00phyberok
21:16.00Temcladhaire: but I *will not* use needylist
21:16.16Temneedylist eats babies
21:16.20cladhaireI know.
21:16.24cladhaireit'd be VERY basic
21:16.27cladhairewhat options would you want?
21:17.00[MoonWolf]what do vegan zombies eat? Grains!
21:17.09cladhaire./praid need {heal|curse|magic|disease|poison} >
21:17.10cladhaire?
21:17.40Temcladhaire: that would be fine for a start
21:17.53cladhairealso /praid need off
21:17.58Temaye
21:18.01cladhaireHrm.
21:18.11otraviwhat about classes that can cure both disease and poison :) ?
21:18.36cladhaireotravi: How about /praid need anycure
21:18.39phyberyou guys have to keep toggling between the two options :p
21:18.40cladhairefltered to only what you can cure
21:18.50Temsounds good cladhaire
21:19.03cladhaireBah
21:19.06cladhaireI have too many options
21:19.09Temhaha
21:19.10cladhairei didn't want a configurable mod =)
21:19.21Temwell...
21:19.27otravicladhaire: that sounds nice
21:19.33Temeventually you make PerfectRaidOptions
21:19.37Mikmahehehe
21:19.49Temwhich is all your options in a seperate addon
21:20.01Temso it can be a pretty and guified
21:20.04Mikmawhy not do a PerfectRaid4Dummies
21:20.36Temthe needylist mode could then have an advanced sort
21:21.06Temthat lets you place "Sort Methods" in a priority
21:21.20cladhairehell no
21:21.22Temsort of how CTRA's decurser does
21:21.34Temhell yes
21:21.55cladhaireno
21:21.57cladhaire=)
21:21.58Mikmacladhaire: wtb range-check
21:21.59Tem(the CTRA reference is in appearance only)
21:22.00cladhairewrite it yourself.
21:22.11Temcladhaire: I am very willing to help
21:23.35cladhaire=)
21:23.41cladhaireI need to do a code-cleanup at work this week
21:23.49cladhaireits not bad.. but there's some artifacts I need to clean up
21:24.12Temhow do you get so much coding done at work?
21:24.13Mikmacladhaire: code a range-check too ;) red < for indicating out of range ;)
21:24.58cladhaireTem: I can code a project like this without ever looking at WoW
21:25.08cladhairethat one day where someone from the forums was testing for me was os damn productive =)
21:25.23TemI think that was thursday
21:25.29Temor maybe friday
21:25.38TemI was sitting just watching the commits fly by
21:25.45cladhairethursday
21:25.50cladhairefriday i only had 2-3 commits =)
21:26.06Mikmayeah. thursday was awesome
21:26.14Mikmacommit, commit, commit, commit
21:26.18[MoonWolf]I code a lot at work too.
21:26.45[MoonWolf]its easy as long as i dont need to figure out how something works.
21:26.56[MoonWolf]if i know how it works i can code it in my head pretty easy.
21:26.56TemI code by figuring out how things work
21:27.09cladhaireTem: Me too.. but something like this.. I can just do it.. i know it inside and out =)
21:27.20Temand I do a lot of "trial" stuff
21:27.28[MoonWolf]i do a lot of trial too.
21:27.30TemI'm *never* sure about a graphical thing until I see it
21:27.54Temcladhaire: oh that's right.  I keep forgetting how much work you put into watchdog
21:28.03[MoonWolf]but i redid my hooks, my colouring method and wrote a lot of chat command stuff at work.
21:28.44Temin mendy?
21:28.59cladhaireTem: WatcHdog wasn't my code.. which still makes it tough
21:29.11cladhaireTem: Vika and I totally code differently
21:29.21Temheh
21:29.26cladhaireor did
21:29.29Mikmacladhaire: how's the 2.0b going?
21:29.35cladhaireMikma: stalled at the moment =)
21:29.42Mikmaaww :P
21:29.43Temyou redid your hooks ItemCompare style didn't you?
21:29.45cladhairePerfectRaid was going too well =)
21:30.01cladhairewho are you talking to?
21:30.08cladhaireTem: Do you have a new version of IC?
21:30.13Temhah
21:30.15[MoonWolf]what did i do that deserves cheering ?
21:30.20Temyour hooks
21:30.31Temthey aren't messy pools of nastyness anymore
21:30.43[MoonWolf]cleanly stolen from kci
21:30.45Tems/nasyness/repeated code/
21:30.56Tems/nastyness/repeated code/
21:30.59[MoonWolf]bu tyeah, they are neat
21:31.10[MoonWolf]the code was sound and worked fine.
21:31.24Tem(kael stole those hooks from IC)
21:31.28[MoonWolf]lol
21:31.54[MoonWolf]when are you ever going to finish that ?
21:32.02[MoonWolf]or is going to be some sandbox UI for ever ?
21:32.05Temwhen I finish my other projects and I can get back to it
21:32.26TemI'm working on big changes to it in my head
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21:32.36Mikmaag`: wb
21:32.38TemI've finaly decided on a parsing system that doesn't make me puke
21:32.49[MoonWolf]share it with me some time
21:32.55[MoonWolf]i need a good parser for slash.
21:33.01Tem(like what happens when I read things like the ItemBonuses plugins)
21:33.22TemI'm planning on making it an embedable library
21:33.25ag`burglar alarm likes to take over my phone line
21:33.33[MoonWolf]lol
21:33.43phyber[Finkle's Lava Dredger] has to be the most ugly epic in the game.
21:33.48Temgive it an itemID or a tooltip and it will spit back the stats on the item
21:33.56Mikmaphyber: we got it too today
21:33.58[MoonWolf]great
21:34.18[MoonWolf]that way i can easely get it to return +ap agility and strenght
21:34.24[MoonWolf]and dump my own crappy parser.
21:34.48TemIt'll need pretty heavy translations I think
21:35.13Mikmahmmmm, now would be the perfect time for me to "code" some actionbarmadness!
21:35.16phyberMikma: cool.  we got that, the hunter leaf and a Sash of Whispered Secrets.
21:35.24Mikmawaiting for debuffs to wear off
21:35.30phybernow we're going to go and wipe on ragnaros :)
21:35.39[MoonWolf]http://ace.pastebin.com/675868 <- my attempt at a tooltip parser.
21:35.56Mikmaphyber: we once again got eye of div + the druid-shoulders, can't remember the name
21:35.58[MoonWolf]ugly i know.
21:36.15Mikmaand i got T1 shoulders for my priest \o/
21:36.24[MoonWolf]\o/
21:36.27cladhaireTem: Changed Mana to LoM.. I know yo9u hate it.
21:36.28[MoonWolf]<PROTECTED>
21:36.36[MoonWolf]<PROTECTED>
21:36.41Mikmastickfiiiight!
21:36.49otravicladhaire: why not add *-1 on the voffset :p ?
21:37.01CIA-1303ckknight * r572 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - Fixed a lot of issues with the adjustment code, specifically with the chat frames.
21:37.23Mikmacladhaire: might be abit messy for people who don't know it's changed from "mana", but it's still good i think
21:37.24otraviTem: I agree: LoM < Mana
21:37.29cladhaireotravi: Cause you can make it positive and smosh the frames together
21:37.39Mikmabecause "mana" makes me think that the person is drinking
21:37.51Temit's more clear
21:37.56Tembut I still liked the old way better
21:38.11Tembut it's not as good as the icon in the concept drawing
21:38.12cladhaireFINE ILL CAHNGE IT BACK
21:38.16hyperChipmunkjust put in the pixel for mana and you won't have to worry about it
21:38.20Temlol @ cladhaire
21:38.21Mikmano!.. use "dry" haha
21:38.49otravihaha
21:38.55hyperChipmunk"'tis Parched"
21:40.18hyperChipmunkbtw praid doesn't show up at all anymore
21:40.23ckknighthyperChipmunk, does BatFu auto-join battlegrounds?
21:40.39hyperChipmunkif I try to reset it, line 564: attempt to index local `f' (a nil value)
21:40.45hyperChipmunkgood god no
21:40.52hyperChipmunklike there needs to be another autojoin mod
21:41.15hyperChipmunkthere's a million of them, and by their nature they all step on each other
21:41.25hyperChipmunkI remember when I used titanpanel
21:41.29hyperChipmunkand had them on
21:41.41hyperChipmunkit was like whackamole if I wanted to NOT autojoin
21:41.52Mikmawiperiss <3
21:41.54hyperChipmunkhad to turn 'em all of so I could finish mining
21:42.06hyperChipmunkbefore the 5 or 10 seconds was up
21:42.07Mikmaperhaps the worst ORB there is
21:42.09TemhyperChipmunk: that's why you have a timer
21:42.12ckknightI'll put that as a won't add feature, then
21:42.14hyperChipmunkthey do
21:42.23TemhyperChipmunk: a long timer
21:42.30Temlike > 30 seconds
21:42.39CIA-1303cladhaire * r573 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidLocals.lua): PerfectRaid: Added groundwork for needy-mode.
21:42.39hyperChipmunkwith multiqueue it's more harm than good anyway
21:42.51cladhairehyperChipmunk: HC.. update to trunk.
21:42.52hyperChipmunklast thing I want to see is someone in a fight in AB get yanked out to AV
21:42.57hyperChipmunkI see it
21:43.03TemhyperChipmunk: you make it just *not* work in another BG
21:43.22cladhaireI'm getting REALLY bad REALLY bad Ace-hate =(
21:43.22hyperChipmunkbg accepts should be opt-in
21:43.27cladhairenot anti-ace
21:43.29cladhaireanti dependency
21:43.34cladhaireI may un-ace PerfectRaid
21:43.42cladhaireI only use it for chat commands anyway
21:43.51Temcladhaire: tell them to fuck off
21:43.51hyperChipmunkluckily you guys are moving to embeds
21:44.03cladhaireTem: Its someone I really respect.
21:44.08cladhaireIts not anti-ace at all
21:44.15Temso what's his bitch?
21:44.19cladhaireits just.. anti dependency
21:44.20Mikmareally, option for range-check would be cool :)
21:44.24cladhaireits a principal thing
21:44.27cladhaireMikma: Maybe
21:44.38Mikmait's pretty neat for healers
21:44.41Temcladhaire: if it's someone you repsect that much, you explain to them how dependencies are a good thing
21:45.02cladhaireTem: They know.. its a matter of principles.
21:45.06hyperChipmunkif someone wants another auto-join/auto-release/auto-rez for their battlegrounds, they should get one that does that; no need for them in an addon intended for information display
21:45.16Temcladhaire: then at that point you say, "use or not"
21:45.23Temcladhaire: "your decision"
21:45.23Mikmathat will eliminate the useless clicks for persons OOR
21:45.47hyperChipmunkevery fricking bg mod has autojoin
21:45.50hyperChipmunkpisses me off
21:45.57hyperChipmunk/rant off
21:46.07hyperChipmunkwhere were we?
21:46.26CIA-1303neriak * r574 10gfxToggle/ (gfxToggle.lua gfxToggle.toc gfxToggleLocals.lua): gfxToggle: Found a workaround for empty GetZoneText(), it just restarts the self:ZoneChange() after self.delay of time to make sure we get a valid zone name.
21:47.16NeronixWhy exactly do people hate dependencies anyway? Do said people think all dependencies are like Sea and co?
21:47.29cladhaireNeronix: Yes, but more importantly they can't be bundled with the addon
21:47.37Mikmatoo bad i can't take good screenshots anymore :P
21:47.39cladhaireso they have to download TWO to get one to work.. and its a second to maintain, debug, etc.
21:47.46hyperChipmunkthey think of it as bloat
21:47.54TemBooHoo
21:47.57hyperChipmunkwhen it actually accomplishes the opposite
21:48.02TemAce gets updated once every few months
21:48.08Neronixunless you're talking about Sea and co :P
21:48.11hyperChipmunkthat's the other thing
21:48.19hyperChipmunkpeople complain that ace is outdated =P
21:48.31Temsorry, I have *no tollerance* for that kind of argument
21:48.36cladhaireYeah
21:48.38cladhaireI know you don't Tem
21:48.39Tembecause frankly, that's bullshit
21:48.41hyperChipmunkit's a sad state of affairs
21:48.44cladhairebut I do to a point =)
21:49.04[MoonWolf]we should beat them with their own appandages untill they understand.
21:49.06hyperChipmunkwhen "not rewritten in 3 months" automatically means "obselete" to some people
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21:49.47hyperChipmunkPerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua:564: attempt to index local `f' (a nil value)
21:50.03Temcladhaire: once you have more complex options (a la needymode) you will want to use AceDB (the new version) to handle profiles
21:50.13Mikmaymf!
21:50.27cladhairehyperChipmunk: What versino are you using
21:50.34cladhaireself:set("BackdropFrame", "frame 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0")
21:50.34cladhaire
21:50.36cladhairethat's line 564
21:50.37hyperChipmunkI just svs'ed
21:50.45hyperChipmunker svn'ed
21:50.48hyperChipmunkhum
21:50.52hyperChipmunklocal f?
21:50.56hyperChipmunkyou get a space in there?
21:51.06cladhaire...
21:51.08cladhairehuh?
21:51.08CIA-1303neronix * r575 10Lexan/ (Changelog.txt Lexan.lua Lexan.toc Readme.txt):
21:51.08CIA-13Lexan
21:51.08CIA-13- Opening the world map will not close most/all your windows nor hide UIParent anymore!
21:51.08CIA-13- Yes! You read that last line right!
21:51.08CIA-13- Removed world map suppression because it's now unnecessary
21:52.21Temcladhaire: who is the "huh?" to?
21:52.39hyperChipmunkme
21:52.45cladhairehyperChipmunk: Yeah, and you didn't respond yet =)
21:53.06hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
21:53.11CIA-1303neronix 071.5 * r576 10Lexan/: Lexan - Tagging as 1.5 release
21:53.11hyperChipmunkoh
21:53.17hyperChipmunkI think I know why
21:53.22cladhaireYou don't have the most recent version, if line 564 doesn't match mine.
21:53.23hyperChipmunkI commented out your spam
21:53.23cladhairethat's #1
21:53.27cladhairewhat spam?
21:53.35cladhairewhat the hell are you talking about? no offse =)
21:53.39hyperChipmunkso svn doesn't want to change my local copy
21:53.45cladhairehaha then fix it =)
21:53.50cladhairecause you're WAY on the wrong version
21:54.01hyperChipmunkthe "Sorting. 3 people in raid"
21:54.06cladhaireyeah
21:54.08cladhaireyou're WAY off
21:54.13Mikmaperfectraid doesn't remember the settings yet?
21:54.32Mikmaand, the frame left open when raid was dispanded
21:54.35hyperChipmunkyea re-checking
21:54.56cladhaireMikma: It remembers all settings
21:55.02cladhaireMikma: But doesn't close when you levae a raid.
21:55.15Mikmacladhaire: well for some reason the sorting by class didn't save
21:55.31hyperChipmunkwtf now it's line 555
21:55.34hyperChipmunksame error
21:55.38Mikmacladhaire: *
21:55.44Mikmawhops, nevermind
21:56.00cladhairehyperChipmunk: then something isn't happening right.. self.master is set during Initialize()
21:56.01Mikmait was just the closing-problem, when raid was formed again it sorted them
21:56.07hyperChipmunkhmmm
21:56.10CIA-1303ckknight * r577 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - fixed positioning of attached tooltips.
21:56.18cladhaireerr Enable()
21:56.30hyperChipmunkit's funny
21:56.33hyperChipmunkcuz it looks like this
21:56.42hyperChipmunkoh n/m
21:56.46hyperChipmunkstill doesn't make sense
21:57.02cladhairecan you delete your folder and then re-checkout?
21:57.08cladhaireshoudln't have to logout for that, just camp
21:57.11cladhaireerr just reload
21:57.11hyperChipmunkaha
21:57.14hyperChipmunkstandby mode ;)
21:57.21cladhairehahah
21:57.23cladhairewell there you go
21:57.32cladhairestandby is all sorts of broken.
21:57.51hyperChipmunkmy name doesn't fit anymore
21:57.54hyperChipmunk/doom
21:58.05cladhairenope.. Spartikus is now the default
21:58.08cladhaireyour name is way too long dude.
21:58.15cladhairethe lojngest name in my guild still shows =)
21:58.28hyperChipmunkI don't even use maximum letters
21:58.33cladhairehehe
21:58.40cladhaireyes, but even hyhpctivehadCHicepernocsnn is really long.
21:58.57hyperChipmunkyou don't play on an rp server, obviously
21:59.03hyperChipmunkhalf my raid is gonna be perma-cutoff
21:59.52hyperChipmunkdid you add the option to turn off truncating =)
22:00.07hyperChipmunkaha! there it is
22:00.13hyperChipmunkn/m you're forgiven
22:00.52cladhaire=)
22:01.16hyperChipmunkoooh, and a separator
22:01.49hyperChipmunknice, 700 nazis held a demonstration in our state capitol
22:02.21hyperChipmunkapparently they're going to take back the country
22:02.56cladhairecolor for feign death?
22:03.02cladhairefeign death?  anyone?
22:03.21hyperChipmunkturquoise
22:03.21Temgrey?
22:03.23[MoonWolf]i have mor users for mendeleev then those nazi's have demonstrators.
22:03.27Temomg Thunderbluff is cool
22:03.28hyperChipmunklike the buff icon
22:04.07hyperChipmunkhttp://i62.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/Ability_Rogue_FeignDeath.jpg
22:04.18Temyeah that's right I've been playing wow for a year and a half and this is my first time to ever visit ThunderBluff... wanna fight about it?
22:04.35[MoonWolf]why the agression ?
22:04.36hyperChipmunkmulgore/tb is beautiful; easily the best zone in the game
22:04.44cladhairehyperChipmunk: I went with a teal =)
22:04.49hyperChipmunk$
22:04.50cladhaireso good suggestion!
22:04.55hyperChipmunkteal is what I meant
22:05.00hyperChipmunkwhatever that color is =)
22:05.39Tem[MoonWolf]: it was a family guy reference that no one could possibly catch because you can't hear the accent with which I said that
22:05.39hyperChipmunkand it's sufficiently different to be distinguishable
22:05.39otravihyperChipmunk: that scares me a little...
22:05.47otravihyperChipmunk: Ability_Rogue_FeignDeath.jpg :p
22:06.04hyperChipmunkyea I know
22:06.06[MoonWolf]Tem, i knew that .... really!!!
22:06.15[MoonWolf]:P
22:06.15Temyeah, the fact that rogues were to be the ones to feign death is kinda scary
22:06.21Tem[MoonWolf]: lol
22:06.34hyperChipmunkyea, I've always been a little annoyed by that
22:07.13Tem[MoonWolf]: ok them Mr. know-it-all what's the line the guy says that I'm refering to, or the context if you can't remember the line
22:07.27[MoonWolf]no idea
22:07.30[MoonWolf]i was kidding.
22:07.44[MoonWolf]but you cant hear my voice, so you could not tell.
22:07.50Temwow, theres so much music you miss out on by playing one race exclusivly
22:07.57Temtouche, Moon
22:07.59[MoonWolf]oh yeah
22:08.03[MoonWolf]you do miss a lot.
22:08.42TemI want the sound track real bad
22:08.54hyperChipmunkso extract it
22:09.17Temabuuh?
22:09.24hyperChipmunklol
22:09.30hyperChipmunkjust yank it from the mpqs
22:09.55hyperChipmunki do it w/ all wc games
22:10.32hyperChipmunkrofl
22:10.53hyperChipmunk~pat tem
22:10.54purlACTION pats tem and says "Nicely Done!"
22:10.58hyperChipmunker
22:11.02hyperChipmunk~comfort tem
22:11.03purlThere, there, tem.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
22:11.03Tem~pet hyperChipmunk
22:11.04purlACTION reaches over and pets hyperChipmunk on the head, saying "There, there! It'll all be ok!"
22:11.20otravi:p
22:11.38cladhaireOk.. so on Feign Death-- where should the HP of the player go?
22:11.40cladhaire0, 100?
22:11.53hyperChipmunkit's possible to get it correct
22:12.00cladhaireif i track every HP change
22:12.06hyperChipmunkI know when I select myself in xraid, the tooltip shows correctly
22:12.17hyperChipmunker, mouse-over myself
22:12.17cladhairewhat do you mean select yourself?
22:12.29hyperChipmunkhum
22:12.39hyperChipmunkI must've had some mod that let me see health in toolti
22:12.42hyperChipmunkI forget now
22:12.44otravicladhaire: zero and temp change the background or something?
22:12.57cladhaireotravi: I can do that.. there's already a feign death indicator.
22:13.00hyperChipmunkoh I figured you'd just turn the bar to teal
22:13.04otravioh :-P
22:13.10cladhairehyperChipmunk: Oh yeah, I can do that too =)
22:13.27hyperChipmunkif you can get the HP level correct, thatd' be even better
22:13.31hyperChipmunkotherwise, just fill the bar
22:16.31CIA-1303ckknight * r578 10FuBar_HonorFu/ (HonorFu.lua HonorFuLocals-deDE.lua HonorFuLocals.lua): FuBar_HonorFu - added cooldown to text display.
22:18.09Mikmaffs what's wrong with gimp :/ converts bad images
22:18.20MikmaThe image .http://wow.reaktio.net/ui.png. cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.
22:18.38hyperChipmunkgimp is my last-line of image conversion
22:19.01hyperChipmunkit opens stuff no matter how corrupt stuff is
22:20.17Mikmafunny thing how it screwed up that png somehow
22:20.31CIA-1303cladhaire * r579 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidLocals.lua):
22:20.31CIA-13PerfectRaid:
22:20.31CIA-13* English Feign Death detection now works. It shows the marker "Feign Death" in teal, and changes the health bar to 100% - colored teal.
22:20.42hyperChipmunkwoots
22:20.44MikmaOOOH! FD marker!
22:21.30hyperChipmunkthat's not teal, you colorblind moron
22:21.36hyperChipmunkthat's Sky Blue
22:21.43cladhairewhatever
22:21.44hyperChipmunkstraight outta the Crayola box
22:21.45cladhairei'm keeping it.
22:22.34hyperChipmunkdoes that overwrite the other debuff markers?
22:22.45hyperChipmunkcuz FD doesn't remove those, and cures are still nice =)
22:22.55ckknightokay, what'd be a good UI way to add alarms to ClockFu?
22:23.14hyperChipmunkhave it send you /tells
22:23.33NeronixBut then it'd show the message twice
22:23.34ckknightadd alarms, not receive them
22:24.06TemNeronix: I don't think he meant literally sending yourself a tell
22:24.10hyperChipmunkheh
22:24.24hyperChipmunkno, like CTBuffMod notifies you of buffs wearing off kinda
22:24.37hyperChipmunkand I'd add 'em with slash commands
22:24.39CIA-1303ckknight * r580 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua: FuBar_HonorFu - made mouseover tooltip in BG slightly better.
22:24.44Temok wtf, it's WSG weekend and there are no WSG instances up
22:24.51hyperChipmunk/at 23:00
22:25.01hyperChipmunk/logout
22:25.05hyperChipmunkCtrl+D
22:25.08hyperChipmunk=P
22:25.32[MoonWolf]:O
22:26.05ckknighthyperChipmunk, I basically want the user to put in a time (or duration from now) of when they want an alarm
22:26.15ckknightthen when that time occurs, a little window will pop up
22:27.20hyperChipmunkdo it liek the money frame?
22:27.29hyperChipmunkwhere you click it, and a three-box frame opens
22:27.39cladhairehyperChipmunk: I can make it keep debuff indicators..but the logic will be nasty
22:28.33hyperChipmunkdo you need that big huge 'Feign Death' at all when the bar is blue?
22:29.02cladhaireFD at least
22:29.03cladhaireyes
22:31.13cladhairethink colorblind
22:32.04hyperChipmunkI'm thinking more of the DoTs on me =P
22:32.18hyperChipmunkscrew colorblind ppl
22:32.43Temwow...
22:32.47cladhairewell i'm giving you the debuff indicators.
22:32.50cladhaireso calm yourself.
22:32.54hyperChipmunk<3
22:33.54CIA-1303cladhaire * r581 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidLocals.lua):
22:33.54CIA-13PerfectRaid:
22:33.54CIA-13* Tweaks to the FD indicator, now shows debuffs as well
22:33.55[MoonWolf]my opinion is below absolute zero already.
22:34.03cladhaireTest that
22:35.00*** join/#wowace haste (n=haste@host-81-191-131-80.bluecom.no)
22:35.44cladhairehyperChipmunk: TEST that now!
22:37.54Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/ui.png
22:38.54cladhairenice =)
22:38.56cladhaireno seperators?
22:39.15Mikmawhere
22:39.38hyperChipmunkI need to find something to debuff me and manage to FD before mena cures it =x
22:39.47cladhairehyperChipmunk: lol
22:39.49otraviI somehow managed to degrade my PR :p
22:39.53cladhairewell does FD work?
22:39.54Mikmacladhaire: what seperators? O_o
22:39.55cladhaireshow FD?
22:39.59cladhairecause if it does, then it'll work
22:40.07cladhaireMikma: /praid voffset -5
22:40.12hyperChipmunkhehe
22:40.14hyperChipmunkFeign Mana
22:40.21cladhaireit says that?
22:40.27hyperChipmunkyea, cuz my mana is 0 when FD
22:40.30Mikmacladhaire: invalid option, upgrading...
22:40.42cladhaireMikma: yeah just upgrade
22:40.55cladhairehyperChipmunk: Hrm.  I can make it not do the mana check when you're FD'd.
22:41.14hyperChipmunkit's something most hunters are used to
22:41.20hyperChipmunkall our addons go crazy when we FD
22:41.24CIA-1303cladhaire * r582 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Skip the mana check on a FD unit.
22:41.33cladhairehyperChipmunk: Well mine won't =)
22:43.10hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/feignmana.png hehehe
22:43.43cladhaireis that with what I just commited?
22:43.53hyperChipmunkno
22:43.58hyperChipmunkwas in gimp cropping
22:44.01cladhairehaha
22:44.01cladhaireok
22:44.30hyperChipmunknow it just says Feign
22:45.52cladhaireyeah
22:45.54cladhairewhich it should
22:45.55Mikmaymf
22:45.57cladhaireno mana check (its skipped)
22:46.00cladhaireand Feign > FD
22:46.09Mikmadoes anyone else have a problem with KC_Items when clicking items from chat?
22:46.09cladhaireor would you rather "NOT DEAD"?
22:46.14hyperChipmunkwhat's wrong with FD?
22:46.25hyperChipmunknobody calls it anything other than FD
22:46.27cladhaireMeh.. looks like the other two letter things.. i wanted it to be different =)
22:46.36cladhaireexcept for when they call it FEIGN death =)
22:46.47hyperChipmunknobody even calls it Feign Death
22:46.52hyperChipmunkheck
22:47.15cladhairewow dude, you're a pain in the ass =)
22:47.20hyperChipmunkjust sayin'
22:47.26cladhaireFINE
22:47.30hyperChipmunkI even use it as sentence
22:47.35hyperChipmunkI FD over here
22:48.04CIA-1303cladhaire * r583 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaidLocals.lua:
22:48.04CIA-13PerfectRaid:
22:48.04CIA-13* Changed the FD indicator to FD instead of "Feign"
22:48.04CIA-13* hyperactiveChipmunk is a whore.
22:48.04CIA-13~lart hyperactiveChipmunk
22:48.09hyperChipmunkbut go with what you want; just sayin', everyone will recognize
22:48.11hyperChipmunk=(
22:48.33hyperChipmunkand if it didn't say perfect right on the name...
22:48.50Mikmathat's some quote... "<cladhaire> wow dude, you're a pain in the ass =)"
22:50.14NeronixI've only been here a week and I've seen more funny things said than I've seen in other channels over a year
22:50.30Neronixoo la la
22:50.37Neronixmy webspace's dns is finally fixed
22:50.47Neronixwhich means I can make a QDB for us :P
22:51.42CIA-1303ckknight * r584 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (TopScoreFu.lua TopScoreFuLocals.lua):
22:51.42CIA-13FuBar_TopScoreFu - added per-spell filtering.
22:51.42CIA-13Added heal-only filtering.
22:52.09Mikmadamn you ckknight, now i have to relog again to upgrade fubar++
22:52.11NeronixWho owns the channel? I'd better ask for permission first at least
22:52.20ckknightmikma, you don't have to relog, really
22:52.34ckknighttypically (unless I change the toc or files), you can just copy em in, then /rl
22:52.37hyperChipmunkisn't he the one whose computer sux so bad he does
22:52.52Mikmackknight: phew, that's good since some addons have way to bug with /rl
22:53.05ckknight?
22:53.10Temdude cladhaire
22:53.17Temthe rodent is right
22:53.19Temthat's not teal
22:53.24Temor turquoise
22:53.27cladhairehahahaha
22:53.28Temthat's fuckin blue
22:53.29hyperChipmunki told you
22:53.29cladhaireits a fucking colr people
22:53.31cladhaireFINE
22:53.33cladhairegive me a color
22:53.37hyperChipmunksec
22:53.37Mikmapink
22:53.38cladhairegive me the decimal nmbers you want
22:53.40cladhaireand i'll set it.
22:53.40Mikmapiiiiiiiink
22:53.40Temlol
22:53.44cladhairei need HEX and decimal.
22:53.47cladhairedo the conversions for me.
22:53.48cladhaireand i hate you
22:53.56Mikmaaww <3
22:54.23TemhyperChipmunk: /praid truncate
22:54.39MikmaPink BC8F8F
22:54.41Mikmahehe
22:54.48hyperChipmunkyea I had it
22:54.53hyperChipmunkthen it forgot it =)
22:54.57Temoh
22:54.57cladhairenot pink the artist.. i like her
22:54.58Mikmahttp://www.only-zuul.com/ahexcolor.htm
22:55.04Mikmathis has some nice colors listed
22:55.12cladhairethats fine
22:55.17cladhairegive me the one you want, with decimal equivalents.
22:55.19cladhaireand i'll change it
22:55.21hyperChipmunk.34 .6 .56
22:55.23cladhaireand make a snatchy commit message
22:55.29cladhairehyperChipmunk: and the hex?
22:55.32hyperChipmunk57988f
22:57.07cladhairewell i cant test it.. so
22:57.14hyperChipmunkobviously
22:57.26hyperChipmunkor you wouldn't have used that other one
22:57.32CIA-1303cladhaire * r585 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidLocals.lua): PerfectRaid: Color change for FD, as requested by the masses.
22:57.32hyperChipmunkor, rather, wouldn't have called it teal
22:57.56cladhaireI liked the blue
22:58.07cladhaireand gamma changes the color drastically
22:58.09cladhaireso bite me.
22:58.10hyperChipmunkhm
22:58.14hyperChipmunkthat's too grey =)
22:58.17cladhaireEEW
22:58.31hyperChipmunklemme up the saturation and give you some new numbers
22:59.11phyberfirst wipe on raggy :)
22:59.32cladhairehyperChipmunk: Make sure its still working too.. i'm not sure mine is.. i can't realy test tho.
22:59.36cladhairei should get on my hunter
22:59.41hyperChipmunkit is
22:59.56hyperChipmunktrying 00e6c6
23:00.36hyperChipmunkwhat line
23:00.44cladhaireits in PerfectRaidLocals.lua
23:00.45cladhairefor the text
23:00.52cladhairethe bar is in UpdateUnit at the end
23:00.56hyperChipmunkk
23:01.21Mikmackknight: umm
23:01.36Mikmackknight: does FuBar need SpecialEvents now?
23:01.51ckknightembedded
23:01.58Mikmaerror! :P
23:02.01ckknightthat is a toc change
23:02.06ckknightlog out of WoW
23:02.13Mikmagrr! liar :)
23:02.38cladhaireI like Sky blue and Slate blue
23:02.41otraviphyber: percentage?
23:02.42cladhairebut whatever
23:03.15CIA-1303ckknight * r586 10FuBar_HonorFu/ (HonorFu.lua HonorFuLocals-deDE.lua HonorFuLocals.lua): FuBar_HonorFu - Now has option to hide the tooltip line on enemies.
23:03.31otravicladhaire: btw, will two columns return :) ?
23:03.53cladhaireotravi: Yeah, layout options will be coming... in a bit.
23:04.05cladhaireotravi: But it'll be messy.  I'll add grow from bottom first.
23:04.13phyberotravi: 74%
23:04.19hyperChipmunkperfect
23:04.21phyberfirst sons had came out
23:04.28Mikmashall i let this old pc to be on for the night so it won't brake too?
23:04.31cladhairehyperChipmunk: What color?
23:04.37hyperChipmunk00e6c6
23:04.41cladhairedecimal?
23:04.43ckknightbrake?
23:04.44hyperChipmunkand um
23:04.50hyperChipmunk~198/255
23:04.51purl0.776470588235
23:04.52otravicladhaire: sounds nice enough :)
23:05.04hyperChipmunk~230/255
23:05.05purl0.901960784314
23:05.08Mikmackknight: yeah, my laptop (the mac) broke down during the night. hdd fooked up
23:05.10hyperChipmunk0, .9, .78
23:05.19ckknightit's break, not brake
23:05.26Mikmalol sorry
23:05.30ckknightyea
23:06.01hyperChipmunknow I'm FDing just to see the pretty color =)
23:06.06cladhairehyperChipmunk: Haha
23:06.10Mikmas/brake/break teh typo/
23:06.11otravihyperChipmunk: nrerf hunters
23:06.18otravi(I had a guildy FD in the raid)
23:08.11cladhaireMeh I guess that's okay
23:08.17Mikmahey really, i do have weird bug when clicking items from chat with KC_Items
23:08.26Mikmaat first time i click it it only shows the separated tooltip
23:08.40Mikmaon the second click it shows the item without the other tooltip
23:08.52Mikmaand when i keep on clicking the tooltips change hehe
23:08.52otraviMikma: I've seen that once also
23:09.01CIA-1303cladhaire * r587 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidLocals.lua): PerfectRaid: Just got done picking out curtains with hyperactiveChipmunk. Decided on a pretty color. Loser.
23:09.10hyperChipmunkhehehhe
23:09.17Mikmabut after closing the tooltip and clicking it again it works
23:10.51ckknightI need feedback, should I show the level range on LocationFu by default or not?
23:11.36Mikmayes you should
23:11.40otravino you shouldn't
23:11.42otravi:-P
23:11.50hyperChipmunkno
23:11.53hyperChipmunkspam ftl
23:11.58weabdon't see why not. average users might not even bother to look for more options. and users that care can just turn it off themselves
23:12.12Mikmawell ok that one has 2 sides
23:12.12ckknightI think I'm gonna go with yes
23:12.29Mikmafor beginners is really good, but for experienced it's useless
23:12.38Mikmaand, beginners don't use addons
23:12.49otravithey use TitanPanel :D
23:12.57Mikmahaha!
23:13.21Mikmait's really funny to read guildchat
23:13.35Mikma"1gb mem won't do, i'll buy 2x 1gb ram"
23:14.17ckknightI have 512
23:14.20ckknightit works
23:14.39Mikmasame in this pc, and my laptop has, umf, 256+512
23:15.10weabi'm kinda of the opinion your addon should show off its features by default. so long as there's a way to strip it down and turn them off
23:15.20phyberMikma: I've had that bug for as long as I can remember
23:15.26phyberI even said something about it on the forums.
23:15.38Mikmaphyber: is it only on new items the DB doesn't know?
23:15.42phyberi get that when the tooltip is merged too, not just the separated one.
23:15.46Mikmabecause clicking the same item again and it works
23:15.47phyberany item
23:16.11phyberI click it once, it shows.  close the tooltip, open it again, no KC_Info, close, open, it's back.  repear.
23:16.14phyberrepeat.
23:23.38otravireported that :D ?
23:24.04phyberyup.  lemme try and find the post...
23:25.18CIA-1303ckknight * r588 10FuBar_LocationFu/ (LocationFu.lua LocationFuLocals.lua TouristLib.lua):
23:25.18CIA-13FuBar_LocationFu -
23:25.18CIA-13Updated to recent TouristLib
23:25.18CIA-13Can now show level range in the display text.
23:25.51hyperChipmunkPRT is brilliant
23:26.07hyperChipmunkthat really needs to be polished off
23:26.52hyperChipmunkthe presentation of data is impeccable
23:27.07phyberbah, I can't find it.  I'll just post again.
23:27.28phyberin a while.
23:28.05Mikmaphyber: remember to report about the tooltips going over the screens edges
23:28.58phyberright, this issue with link clicking only happens when using the [X] to close the item info box.
23:29.13phyberif I just keep clicking the link to open/close it, it's fine.
23:29.38Mikmai think i'm having the reverse effect
23:29.57Mikmaclicking the item will swap the tooltips and closing it from the X will fix it
23:30.10phyberI should probably try SVN version before reporting this.
23:31.51Mikmayeah like i said, a new item from the chat, and clicking it will swap the tooltips
23:32.23Mikmabut after pressing the [X] the tooltip works
23:32.38CIA-1303shyva * r589 10BigWigs/ (16 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: Tweaked MC, BWL and "Other" bosses (small tweaks) and cleaned the code up.
23:33.42CodayusHmm.
23:34.04CodayusWas testing BigWigs last night - using Timex bars to display timers is really nifty.
23:34.18cladhaireSo
23:34.21Shyva:-) tekkubs idea
23:34.22cladhaireWhat does BigWIgs require
23:34.23cladhaireora?
23:34.28otravinope
23:34.30Shyvano, ace and timex
23:34.32otraviAce and Timex
23:34.36cladhairereally
23:34.37cladhairehrm
23:34.45CodayusIn theory, you should be able to use BigWigs + CTRA, right?
23:34.51otraviyes
23:34.57Shyvayes.. I do atm Codayus
23:35.01otraviBigWigs + BossBlock + CTRA
23:35.03MikmaCodayus: just be sure to disable CT_BossMods
23:35.06CodayusNot that I'd want to after trying PerfectRaid...
23:35.12otraviMikma: that won't help much :p
23:35.15Shyvaaltho I have CTRABM on too.. to test the messages
23:35.24phyberhmm, the tooltip sticks in the broken "mode" too.
23:35.33Mikmaotravi: well will stop the client to spam the messages to yourself if the bosses are enabled :)
23:35.46phyberfor example, if I get it into a state where the KC info isn't shown, and click the links in the chat frame, no kc info is shown anymore.
23:35.58phyberI have to close it with the [X], then it comes back.
23:36.16phyberthe [X] button is clearly evil and must close the frame in a different way than clicking the link again.
23:36.18Temcladhaire: why does pr keep forgetting my truncate setting?
23:36.51otraviMikma: you still get it from CTRA
23:37.01Mikmaotravi: nope, CT_BossMods
23:37.12otraviMikma: I'm mainly thinking of the RS messages
23:37.27phyberbut it's only if I keep clicking the same item.  it's as if KC_Items believes the tooltip is still shown so doesn't bother adding it again.
23:37.29Mikmahah, i was thinking of the spammessages to yourself on screen
23:37.43otravithere are two fields :)
23:37.53otravione a little above the middle (RS)
23:38.00cladhaireTem: It might not save it =)
23:38.04otraviand one a little above the standard Actionbar (CTRABM)
23:38.14Mikmaotravi: i was talking about CTRABM spam
23:38.26otravithe RS one is the nasty one :p
23:38.29Mikmaif you have ctrabm enabled you will see spams there too
23:38.29phyberi have no idea how to explain it without sounding retarded and having people ask me to do random things. like when tech support telling you to reboot your computer and it's not the problem.
23:38.41cladhaireTem: It should be
23:38.54Mikmaotravi: so that means ctrabm = EVIL
23:39.02otraviCTRA = evil :p
23:39.02CIA-1303ckknight * r590 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua: FuBar_HonorFu - sct support for honor gain.
23:39.04otravinot really, but still :p
23:39.12Mikmait's responsible of both spams, RS and the lower
23:39.54Temcladhaire: it seems to foget it a lot
23:40.06Temcladhaire: like in the same session it resets
23:40.50cladhaire.. really?
23:40.53cladhairethat definitely shouldnt happen
23:41.37TemI'm not positive on that
23:41.47Temsince I reload so often I sometimes forget that I did
23:44.04cladhairehehe
23:44.08Temwow.. is wowi really slow right now?
23:44.14cladhairethere's some issues with the way i'm defaulting.
23:44.23weabseems ok to me
23:45.51Mikmaoh crap
23:46.07cladhaireDo i have to manually enable all the bigwig mods?
23:46.10Mikmahow can i make 3 syntax slashcommands? like /foo opt1 opt2
23:46.37Mikmacladhaire: they will selfenable when mouseovered/targeting the boss
23:46.39otraviDoes anyone know how the CTRA target thing works?
23:46.57Codayusotravi: The "raid leader assigns targets thing"?
23:47.45otraviyeh
23:47.47CodayusNope.  My guild doesn't use it.  I think we tried it once, but it didn't really seem any easier of faster.
23:47.57cladhaireMikma: ooh.. shiny
23:48.03otravi*enables CTRA*
23:48.21MikmaCodayus: our guild uses it *only* on garr
23:48.36Mikmaraidleader will define targets for warlocks and warriors
23:48.43Temwe use it all the damn time
23:48.48Temit freaken rocks
23:49.09Temit's only thing that I dislike is that it only works for MTs
23:49.19cladhaireTem: I think I found the issue.. its with how i'm using profiles/setting defaults.  Thanks for the report.
23:49.29Temcladhaire: cool
23:49.33CodayusMy guild just has the raid leader call out names on vent.  Once people are used to it, that goes pretty fast.
23:49.41Temyeah... I hate that'
23:49.43Temannoying and slow
23:49.52TemCTRA Targetmanagement == fast
23:49.55CIA-1303cladhaire * r591 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Logic error in truncate defaults (since its true/false). Truncate settings should now persist.
23:49.56Temand no one has to hear about it
23:50.02Mikmaif i do: function omglol(foo,bar) can i then use "if (foo == x) then .. and under it "if (bar == y)" ?
23:50.11hyperChipmunkwoot
23:50.20TemMikma: what on *earth* are you talking about?
23:50.47MikmaTem: how in da hell can i make a slash which uses 2 commands in it
23:50.55MikmaTem: /slash opt1 op2
23:51.00CodayusTem: Yeah?  Hmm, maybe I should try and convince my guild to use it then.
23:51.04Mikmas/op2/opt2/
23:51.04Temusing AceChatCmd?
23:51.20MikmaTem: no i mean without ace
23:51.25Temshort answer?
23:51.26Temdon't
23:51.43Mikmahah, well i have to since i don't know yet how to code with ace :)
23:51.43CodayusThat's kind of a headache.  Easy with Ace though.
23:52.04TemCodayus: it rocks.  My guild didn't want to use it either but being an officer and the "addons guy" I kinda forced it on them
23:53.05CodayusIncidentally, I was having an odd problem last night with oRA not working right.  It was in the right CTRA channel, but it wouldn't respond to ready checks...is there something obvious I might have been missing?
23:53.30otraviCodayus: what version?
23:53.48MikmaCodayus: happened to me before, don't know why but when i restarted it worked. propably something messed the channel
23:53.56Codayusotravi: Latest I think.
23:54.26CodayusYep, latest from the SVN.
23:54.48CodayusAnd I couldn't perform item or resistance checks, despite being (A).
23:55.24otravino error?
23:55.31CodayusNo error...no nothing.
23:55.33otraviI should add a error if no channel is set :\
23:55.58CodayusBut I was in the right channel...and I typed /ora join RightChannelName and it told me it was setting that channel.
23:56.55otravistrange that it still didn't work =\
23:57.00CodayusI know.
23:57.12CodayusI'm going to try logging on to a dummy raid and test it a bit more.
23:57.18otraviI'll take a look at it now
23:57.27CodayusWe were sort of in the middle of trying to kill Domo last night, so...was a bit busy.
23:57.38CIA-1303ramble * r592 10Angler/ (Angler.lua AnglerEasyLure.lua):
23:57.38CIA-13Angler:
23:57.38CIA-13<PROTECTED>
23:58.47otraviI just relogged: joined a existing raid, joined the CTRA channel with /pra join ChanName, and had a ready check tested - which worked :<
23:59.07otraviThere has to be something strange since it doesn't work for some people tho' =\
23:59.30CodayusHmm
23:59.43CodayusDamn all non-reproducable errors, anyhow.

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