| 00:04.18 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1062 10FuBar_BagFu/ (FuBar_BagFu.toc README.txt): FuBar_BagFu - Fixed TOC and README.txt to say 1.1 |
| 00:05.40 | tardmrr | oh yay hyperChipmunk |
| 00:05.42 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1063 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/ (FuBar_DurabilityFu.toc README.txt): FuBar_DurabilityFu - fixed TOC and README.txt to say 1.1 |
| 00:05.55 | tardmrr | you finaly added target FC support to BatFu |
| 00:06.21 | tardmrr | I *hate* the "Target Opposing Flag Carrier" functionality of HonorFu |
| 00:06.38 | tardmrr | (I'm not a big fan of drop down menus) |
| 00:06.57 | tardmrr | hyperChipmunk: do you have BatFu in the SVN? |
| 00:07.28 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1064 10FuBar_LocationFu/ (FuBar_LocationFu.toc LocationFu.lua README.txt): FuBar_LocationFu - fixed TOC and README.txt to say 1.1 |
| 00:07.48 | tardmrr | nevermind, I found it |
| 00:10.19 | ckknight | tardmrr, yea, I plan to take the FC stuff out of HonorFu |
| 00:10.26 | tardmrr | good |
| 00:10.29 | tardmrr | it was shitty |
| 00:10.32 | hyperChipmunk | I do |
| 00:10.41 | ckknight | you know, tardmrr, you need to watch your fucking mouth |
| 00:10.43 | hyperChipmunk | BatFu? |
| 00:10.46 | hyperChipmunk | = |
| 00:10.47 | hyperChipmunk | =\ |
| 00:10.59 | ckknight | you know, if you click on the HonorFu plugin, it targets the FC anyway |
| 00:11.02 | hyperChipmunk | or, oh, the FC stuff? |
| 00:11.03 | ckknight | thus, no dropdown |
| 00:11.53 | tardmrr | lol ckknight |
| 00:12.06 | tardmrr | oh really? |
| 00:12.09 | tardmrr | I wasn't aware of that |
| 00:12.15 | ckknight | it says so in the hint |
| 00:12.18 | tardmrr | psh |
| 00:12.21 | tardmrr | you think I can read? |
| 00:12.31 | ckknight | you were a "special" child, weren't you? |
| 00:12.44 | kergoth | :P |
| 00:12.49 | tardmrr | =P |
| 00:12.59 | tardmrr | I'm just not very observant |
| 00:13.10 | tardmrr | I miss things that others think is obvious |
| 00:16.33 | tardmrr | hyperChipmunk: yeah, I wish there was more for you to display in BatFu |
| 00:16.47 | tardmrr | (in WSG) |
| 00:16.56 | tardmrr | hyperChipmunk: I really like the AB and AV displays but those are never up on my server |
| 00:17.04 | tardmrr | stupid horde... |
| 00:17.10 | tardmrr | they always lose at both |
| 00:17.14 | tardmrr | so they refuse to queue |
| 00:17.40 | kergoth | on my server, horde annihilates alliance in all 3 until level 60, then get their asses handed to them |
| 00:17.47 | kergoth | for some odd reason |
| 00:18.04 | tardmrr | seriously, on my server, the Horde has won a *total* of 2 AV matches since AV was released last summer |
| 00:18.09 | kergoth | ow |
| 00:18.21 | tardmrr | and both of those were before they removed the "Join As Group" option from AV |
| 00:18.36 | *** join/#wowace Norque (n=Norque@072.a.001.dub.iprimus.net.au) |
| 00:18.40 | tardmrr | so the big Horde Raiding guild got a full raid of 40 of them in at once |
| 00:18.43 | Tain | Awesome. http://www.eff.org/IP/DRM/piratead/CEA_ad.png |
| 00:18.44 | tardmrr | with BWL gear |
| 00:18.54 | kergoth | Tain: yeah, thats great |
| 00:19.16 | snurre | at least they get some games there... for horde on mine there's 2-3h queue for WSG/AB and 4+ for AV.. good thing im done with pvp :p |
| 00:20.22 | Tain | Yarr. |
| 00:20.35 | tardmrr | snurre: that's the alliance's plight on my server |
| 00:20.45 | tardmrr | horde has instant queues for *everything* |
| 00:20.50 | tardmrr | all day |
| 00:20.51 | tardmrr | all night |
| 00:21.09 | snurre | i kinda miss the time i was grinding honor.. 50-80 AB games per day :p |
| 00:21.11 | Tain | Most servers are like that. It varies for Alliance, but Horde always get in right away. |
| 00:21.40 | tardmrr | if you get a team together and queue up, there is always more than enough alliance that are waiting to get in to start up a game |
| 00:27.06 | *** join/#wowace pfault (n=pagefaul@toronto-HSE-ppp4035403.sympatico.ca) |
| 00:30.43 | weab | ckknight: tooltip persisting after merge known issue? |
| 00:30.52 | weab | looks good though btw! |
| 00:30.54 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 00:30.59 | Tain | Ah if nothing else I can always fall back on the latest, "Your Band Sucks" article on somethingawful.com |
| 00:31.00 | ckknight | persisting? |
| 00:31.21 | weab | well |
| 00:31.25 | weab | maybe i should rephrase |
| 00:31.29 | weab | the tooltip stays open |
| 00:31.33 | weab | er |
| 00:31.34 | weab | menu |
| 00:31.38 | weab | i'm sure that's probably intentional |
| 00:31.57 | weab | but since the module moves the menu also moves |
| 00:32.04 | ckknight | err, bug |
| 00:33.38 | cladhaire | otravi: I have the code for Blizzard RaidUI minus the raid shit.. its pretty light weight |
| 00:34.28 | kergoth | nice |
| 00:35.37 | cladhaire | so you can drag and drop to move the raid around, but its about 2 megs smaller than using the full BlizzRAid addon |
| 00:37.54 | snurre | complete blizzui replacements would be so awesome.. |
| 00:38.11 | Cairenn | ummm, ckknight? |
| 00:38.16 | ckknight | yea? |
| 00:38.24 | ckknight | did I do bad? |
| 00:38.34 | Cairenn | just updated to the latest ones you just uploaded, hit reload ui and got: |
| 00:39.00 | Cairenn | Interface\FrameXML\ZoneText.lua:20: bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got nil) |
| 00:39.09 | ckknight | weird |
| 00:39.13 | ckknight | never got that before |
| 00:39.31 | Cairenn | yeah, odd |
| 00:39.37 | Cairenn | can't get it to come back up |
| 00:39.47 | ckknight | my code has nothing at all to do with that |
| 00:39.49 | Cairenn | soon as I clicked okay, it went away |
| 00:39.56 | ckknight | I'm calling fluke |
| 00:40.09 | Cairenn | welp, the only thing I updated was your mod, hang on, lemme try reload again |
| 00:41.04 | Cairenn | okay ..... |
| 00:41.28 | Cairenn | I have a macro: |
| 00:41.35 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.51 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:42.00 | Cairenn | as soon as I hit that, I'm getting the error |
| 00:42.20 | Cairenn | and the *only* change are your mods I just updated |
| 00:42.25 | kergoth | synap sure codes in a functional programming style |
| 00:42.28 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:42.30 | cladhaire | kergoth: Yep =) |
| 00:42.46 | kergoth | i like it, but holy cow is there a lot of overhead. table and function constructions everywhere! |
| 00:42.52 | Cairenn | bag, loc, dura, fubar and the 2 libraries |
| 00:43.27 | ckknight | and RestFu |
| 00:44.06 | Cairenn | yeah, but I didn't load that |
| 00:44.13 | Cairenn | was telling you which ones I did |
| 00:44.21 | Cairenn | of the ones you just uploaded |
| 00:46.05 | kergoth | i dunno if i like his use of function prefixes to determine whether its a static or whatever. thats one of the things that annoys me most about python. namespacing via changes to the function names just strikes me as silly |
| 00:46.15 | kergoth | too.. implicit |
| 00:46.43 | cladhaire | it was a basic class concept =) |
| 00:47.22 | kergoth | hehe. thats one of the thigns i love most about lua, which a lot of people seem to hate most |
| 00:47.43 | kergoth | the lack of a built in object model, instaed just giving you the necessary tools. mechanisms, not policy |
| 00:47.54 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1065 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - handles lib activation more delicately. |
| 00:50.14 | CIA-13 | 03cladhaire * r1066 10/trunk/ (MiniBlizzRaid.lua MiniBlizzRaid.toc MiniBlizzRaid.xml): Initial import of MiniBlizzRaid |
| 00:50.25 | cladhaire | shit |
| 00:50.26 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:51.31 | ckknight | I'd prefer to have proper classes and such |
| 00:51.36 | ckknight | with privacy |
| 00:52.16 | CIA-13 | 03cladhaire * r1067 10/trunk/ (MiniBlizzRaid.lua MiniBlizzRaid.toc MiniBlizzRaid.xml): Removed file/folder |
| 00:52.55 | Tain | Oh goddamnit I got a fu compatible number for you right here, it's number 1. Want to see it? |
| 00:53.36 | CIA-13 | 03cladhaire * r1068 10MiniBlizzRaid/ (. MiniBlizzRaid.lua MiniBlizzRaid.toc MiniBlizzRaid.xml): Initial Import of MiniBlizzRaid |
| 00:53.43 | cladhaire | there we go =) |
| 00:53.47 | cladhaire | for anyone interested. |
| 00:54.07 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1069 10FuBar/FuBarPlugin.lua: FuBar - fixed merge process menu jumping. |
| 00:55.21 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1070 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - fixed nil icon bug. |
| 00:55.50 | ckknight | yea, gonna upload some more stuff, Cairenn |
| 00:56.04 | Cairenn | ckknight: okay |
| 00:56.23 | ckknight | well, really, the same stuff, but with bugfixes |
| 00:57.37 | ckknight | done |
| 00:57.40 | ckknight | just those 2 |
| 00:57.49 | CIA-13 | 03cladhaire * r1071 10MiniBlizzRaid/MiniBlizzRaid.lua: Suppress the load message after the first call to RaidFrame_LoadUI |
| 00:58.07 | CIA-13 | 03tain * r1072 10CommandHistory/CommandHistory.lua: CommandHistory - Added a reverse lookup table to prevent multiple instances of the same command being saved. |
| 00:58.14 | snurre | cladhaire: what does it do? replaces the original, or just another raid ui? |
| 00:58.28 | Cairenn | ckknight: approved |
| 00:58.31 | cladhaire | stops the raid FRAMES from loading, but still loads the Raid TAB on the social tab |
| 00:58.43 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:59.02 | Tain | Would people mind testing out CommandHistory? I'm done releasing actual versions of addons without real-world testing. |
| 00:59.18 | ckknight | what's it do? |
| 00:59.28 | Tain | It just saves your editbox command history between reloads. |
| 01:00.42 | Tain | Gah yeah found a bug in my lookup table save. |
| 01:00.45 | CIA-13 | 03cladhaire * r1073 10/tags/MiniBlizzRaid/: Creating a tag directory or MBR |
| 01:01.00 | ckknight | do what I do, just assume the WoWI userbase is your beta testers |
| 01:01.13 | ckknight | and release early, release often |
| 01:01.17 | CIA-13 | 03cladhaire 07MiniBlizzRaid-1.0 * r1074 10MiniBlizzRaid/: Tag for 1.0 release, without any testing-- cause that's how I roll |
| 01:01.37 | Tain | Yeah. I really hate being a bugtester for someone else on their releases. |
| 01:01.48 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:01.58 | ckknight | just find a way to reduce bugs as much as possible |
| 01:01.59 | Tain | If it's stated to be a "beta" that's one thing. |
| 01:02.04 | ckknight | and respond to bugs as fast as you can |
| 01:02.17 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:02.56 | Tain | Different ways to do things. I'd rather release something once a week after a week's worth of testing than once a day and fix bugs every day. |
| 01:03.16 | ckknight | yea, I suppose |
| 01:03.34 | ckknight | but my way keeps the monopolistic stranglehold on the New & Updated list |
| 01:03.39 | Tain | I'm not saying either is better. Just the way I choose. |
| 01:04.27 | ckknight | my way works for me |
| 01:04.43 | ckknight | uploading doesn't take long, and I'd rather push out as much stuff as I can |
| 01:05.10 | weab | well i mostly tease you about it, but it is a bit annoying to have to update every day |
| 01:05.12 | Tain | It's just annoying downloading a new version and getting and error on login. |
| 01:05.56 | weab | i won't honestly complain though |
| 01:06.06 | Tain | But I just don't d/l new versions of the fu stuff now unless I have to, when things start bitching at me that I have to upgrade. |
| 01:06.51 | ckknight | alright |
| 01:07.07 | ckknight | weab, if you use the svn versions, it's just right-click, update |
| 01:08.23 | Cairenn | ckknight: no error now |
| 01:08.37 | ckknight | Cairenn, it was a bug in Blizzard's follow code, afaik |
| 01:08.54 | Cairenn | dumped new ones in, hit reload, used my macro, no error this time |
| 01:09.17 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4904 |
| 01:10.54 | weab | ckknight: i probably will end up pointing them to your repository, but i feel a bit bad for less tech savvy users :p though admittedly they're not likely anal about keeping things updated like i am |
| 01:11.13 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:11.17 | ckknight | see, win-win |
| 01:11.21 | ckknight | or win-lose |
| 01:11.23 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 01:11.28 | ckknight | lousy users |
| 01:11.34 | ckknight | harshing my mellow |
| 01:21.12 | cladhaire | svn slow for anyone else? |
| 01:21.17 | CIA-13 | 03cladhaire * r1075 10MiniBlizzRaid/MiniBlizzRaid.xml: MiniBlizzRaid: Fixed an issue where leader would have been unable to move the raid around. |
| 01:21.19 | ckknight | yes |
| 01:21.22 | cladhaire | boo |
| 01:21.25 | cladhaire | i'll yell at my provider =( |
| 01:21.36 | ckknight | 1.4 kB/s |
| 01:22.32 | CIA-13 | 03cladhaire 07MiniBlizzRaid-1.1 * r1076 10MiniBlizzRaid/: MiniBlizzRaid: Tagging version 1.1 for release |
| 01:26.55 | ckknight | wow, awesome: Tooltip:AddFontStrings(leftstring, rightstring) - dynamically expand the maximum size of a tooltip |
| 01:34.07 | cladhaire | Â 3 mins 37 secs ago: The server is unresponsive, we are rebooting it now.. |
| 01:34.07 | cladhaire | Â Â 13 mins 33 secs ago: Outage verified: We are actively looking into resolving it. |
| 01:34.07 | cladhaire | Â Â 26 mins 40 secs ago: Outage first reported. |
| 01:34.14 | cladhaire | sorry folks.. it'll be up soon |
| 01:37.03 | ckknight | but I wanna commit |
| 01:37.06 | ckknight | I have a cool change |
| 01:37.13 | ckknight | shiny, even |
| 01:37.23 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:37.27 | cladhaire | sorry |
| 01:38.01 | ckknight | Now, if you drag a panel from the top of the screen to the bottom, it'll reattach to the bottom |
| 01:38.03 | ckknight | and vice versa |
| 01:38.10 | cladhaire | nice |
| 01:45.35 | cladhaire | ZOMG SERVER COME UP =) |
| 01:45.45 | cladhaire | it hit all my servers too, like 6 domains dead in the water =) |
| 01:46.26 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:47.36 | ckknight | Tekkub, would you be against changing metrognome:Register("name", func [, rate] [, arg]) to metrognome:Register("name", func or "methodName" [, rate] [, arg]) ? |
| 01:49.53 | *** join/#wowace FryGuy (i=fryguy@c-24-23-19-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:00.46 | Tain | Stupid servers. |
| 02:04.08 | weab | i retired my old character and started on one of the new servers with new hardware |
| 02:04.10 | weab | its awesome |
| 02:07.06 | *** join/#wowace Tem (n=Tem@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net) |
| 02:07.06 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 02:11.23 | Tem | oh noes |
| 02:11.26 | Tem | is the svn down? |
| 02:12.23 | Tain | cladhaire broke it |
| 02:12.31 | Tem | typical |
| 02:16.35 | cladhaire | servers are being rebooted. |
| 02:16.42 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 02:20.28 | Tem | ah |
| 02:20.31 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: you around? |
| 02:20.47 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 02:20.58 | hyperChipmunk | hockey playoffs + molten core =) |
| 02:21.03 | Tem | heh |
| 02:21.12 | hyperChipmunk | am I adding coding to that? |
| 02:21.14 | Tem | think you might convert BatFu's dropdowns to use DewDrop? |
| 02:21.20 | Tem | they are so... |
| 02:21.21 | hyperChipmunk | oh absolutely |
| 02:21.22 | Tem | shiny |
| 02:21.25 | hyperChipmunk | not now =) |
| 02:21.31 | hyperChipmunk | after |
| 02:21.44 | Tem | and ckknight, with the latest from the svn: BagFu.lua:114: Method ToggleShowingDepletion() nonexistant. |
| 02:21.53 | Tem | (when I right clicked on BagFu) |
| 02:21.58 | ckknight | thought I updated that... |
| 02:22.20 | Tem | did you do it in the last 3 hours? |
| 02:23.03 | ckknight | yea, I did |
| 02:23.03 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:23.07 | Tain | Can you just code in an svn checkout every time someone loads? |
| 02:23.21 | ckknight | ? |
| 02:23.23 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:23.26 | ckknight | it'd be so awesome |
| 02:23.33 | ckknight | and you know it |
| 02:23.55 | Tem | opps |
| 02:24.02 | Tem | my moneyfu is out of date |
| 02:24.03 | ckknight | svn's still not up |
| 02:24.09 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.04 | weab | would be pretty leet if blizzard hosted their own svn type thing for mod authors. so users could opt to automatically have their addons updated through it on loading |
| 02:26.02 | Tain | Ok this falls firmly in the, "Holy shit" category. |
| 02:26.02 | Tain | http://videosift.com/story.php?id=630 |
| 02:26.16 | Tem | can you imagine how retardedly slow that repo would be? |
| 02:26.22 | weab | lol |
| 02:26.45 | weab | stop, it was a good fantasy |
| 02:26.49 | weab | no bringing reality into this! |
| 02:27.20 | Tem | Tain: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=ryan+vs+dorkman |
| 02:29.09 | Tem | keep in mind those 2 kids are still in highschool |
| 02:29.38 | weab | obviously |
| 02:29.38 | Tain | That is so awesome. |
| 02:29.52 | weab | i mean, so painfully obvious nerds :P |
| 02:29.57 | Tem | hehe |
| 02:30.07 | Tain | Nerds with skills. |
| 02:32.40 | Tain | hah of course they have a webpage. http://www.ryanvsdorkman.com/ |
| 02:38.43 | Tem | hey ckknight, are tooltips supposed to be exactly centered below/above their plugin? |
| 02:38.52 | ckknight | no |
| 02:39.03 | ckknight | should attach bottomleft to topleft |
| 02:39.09 | ckknight | or bottomright to topright |
| 02:39.37 | ckknight | although it can be bottom to top if the plugin's in the middle |
| 02:41.10 | Tem | it seems inconsisten |
| 02:41.11 | Tem | t |
| 02:41.46 | Tem | with the tooltip headings centered, it feels like it should be centered |
| 02:42.09 | ckknight | nope |
| 02:42.43 | Tem | I'm just nitpicking, but that's the way it seems to me |
| 02:43.34 | clad|sleep | night all |
| 02:43.36 | Tem | I like the change to the sliders. They look *much* better, but something still isn't quite right |
| 02:43.39 | ckknight | titles are always centered |
| 02:43.40 | Tem | later cladhaire |
| 02:43.40 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep |
| 02:43.50 | weab | visually, i'd kinda agree, though its probably more effort than its worth |
| 02:43.51 | ckknight | but the svn... |
| 02:44.16 | Tem | if you didn't update so damned much, I'd just shutup and make the changes on my local copy |
| 02:44.32 | weab | lol |
| 02:44.34 | Tem | regardless, I'm gonna play with it while the svn is down |
| 02:45.00 | Tem | Where do I need to look for the tooltip anchoring code? |
| 02:45.59 | Tem | oh did you see what slouken added today? |
| 02:46.14 | Cairenn | lol, which one of *many*? |
| 02:46.21 | ckknight | FuBar.lua:1989 |
| 02:46.34 | ckknight | I saw Tooltip:AddLinewhatever |
| 02:46.39 | ckknight | which is good |
| 02:47.07 | ckknight | FuBar.lua:1989-2009 is the tooltip positioning code |
| 02:47.28 | Tem | the tooltip is the one I was talking about |
| 02:47.34 | Tem | oooh wsg is up |
| 02:49.45 | Tain | This strikes me as goddamn funny regardless of the context. "nothing is worse than going to an orgy and feeling like youre surrounded by perverts." |
| 02:52.23 | Tem | the hell |
| 02:52.27 | Tem | I just got a sct error |
| 02:52.35 | Tem | I've *never* had a sct error before |
| 02:52.51 | Tain | I got some with the latest version until I did a reset and set everything new. |
| 02:53.02 | Tain | There was a note about it somewhere, some of the svs changed I guess. |
| 02:53.19 | ckknight | what'd the error say? |
| 02:55.56 | *** join/#wowace haste (n=haste@host-81-191-131-80.bluecom.no) |
| 03:01.00 | ckknight | why do you always log on as haste, then change to otravi? |
| 03:01.44 | otravi | haste was registered, and I'm to lazy to figure out how to add multiple nicks :o |
| 03:03.01 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.14 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:04.50 | Cairenn | unless you mean haste was registered to someone else |
| 03:04.59 | otravi | it is :) |
| 03:05.08 | Cairenn | ah, different issue then |
| 03:05.27 | Cairenn | not according to /whois |
| 03:05.37 | Tain | Initial release of CommandHistory, saves chat editbox command history between sessions - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4905 |
| 03:05.45 | otravi | maybe it has expired :o |
| 03:05.49 | ckknight | I saw that |
| 03:06.29 | otravi | I got a invalid password, so I guess it is :< |
| 03:07.29 | otravi | s/is/hasn't/ |
| 03:07.48 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.49 | Cairenn | NickServ: (notice) Nickname: haste |
| 03:07.49 | Cairenn | NickServ: (notice) Registered: 32 weeks 6 days (10h 39m 10s) ago |
| 03:07.49 | Cairenn | NickServ: (notice) Last Seen: 32 weeks 6 days (10h 37m 43s) ago |
| 03:07.49 | Cairenn | NickServ: (notice) Last Seen Address: i=demigod@219.90.64.185 |
| 03:07.49 | Cairenn | NickServ: (notice) Last Seen Quit Msg: Client Quit |
| 03:07.51 | Cairenn | NickServ: (notice) Nickname Options: Secure, AllowMemos, MemoNotify, MemoSignon |
| 03:09.36 | otravi | hm |
| 03:11.08 | Cairenn | might be able to ask a server admin to release the name to you |
| 03:12.23 | Cairenn | no guarantee that they would, but it was created 32 weeks ago and hasn't been seen since |
| 03:12.23 | otravi | I just read that on the FAQ now |
| 03:14.02 | Cairenn | doesn't hurt to ask, worst that happens is they say no |
| 03:14.12 | Tain | Or they remove a finger. |
| 03:14.21 | Tain | It's in the terms of service. |
| 03:14.42 | otravi | *asks* |
| 03:16.35 | Cairenn | mind you, after all this time, none of us will know who the heck you are if you start going by "haste" ;) |
| 03:16.53 | Tain | Who's haste? |
| 03:17.48 | otravi | It's the same as my forum name *gasps* |
| 03:18.02 | otravi | and they might have noticed the same thing as Mr. Boss did |
| 03:19.57 | Cairenn | take it they agreed |
| 03:20.46 | haste | yeah, worked out fine |
| 03:21.44 | Cairenn | good |
| 03:22.31 | haste | now, I have to wait for blizzard to fix the server |
| 03:22.38 | Tain | No extraneous limb removals? :( |
| 03:24.25 | haste | http://irssi.org/themefiles/c0ders.png << what people do to use IRC at work. |
| 03:25.36 | Tem | my BatFu tooltip is stuck to my mouse |
| 03:25.43 | Tain | Ooh doom is good. |
| 03:26.36 | Cairenn | Tem: okay, I thought that was a fluke on my end last night ... my QuestFu tooltip got stuck to my mouse ... |
| 03:26.47 | Cairenn | I had to quit out of the game entirely to get control back |
| 03:27.00 | Tem | a reload worked for me |
| 03:27.54 | Cairenn | oh there you go being all smart and shit again ... cut it out |
| 03:28.07 | haste | /rl is your friend. |
| 03:28.15 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.22 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.42 | haste | eeh? |
| 03:28.48 | Tain | I'd like to reload but FuBar Reload doesn't work anymore for NO GOOD REASON |
| 03:29.04 | Tem | ckknight: is it intentional that warlocks are pink on the battlefield score frame? |
| 03:29.15 | ckknight | they should be purple |
| 03:29.22 | ckknight | shamans/pallies are pink |
| 03:29.37 | Cairenn | Tain: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4741 works fine for me, I use it all the time |
| 03:29.44 | hyperChipmunk | /rl is an ace thing too |
| 03:30.03 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:30.06 | hyperChipmunk | Ace/AceLocals.lua:SLASH_RELOAD1= "/rl" |
| 03:30.19 | haste | I was just going to paste that line :p |
| 03:31.58 | Tem | ckknight: yeah, well they are pink on my machine |
| 03:32.30 | ckknight | do me a favor |
| 03:32.56 | ckknight | type /print BabbleLib:GetInstance().GetClassHexColor("WARLOCK") |
| 03:33.36 | haste | Is the SVN down? |
| 03:33.39 | Cairenn | yes |
| 03:35.05 | hyperChipmunk | paladins/shaman are pink...warlocks are dark pink |
| 03:35.19 | Tain | Sounds appropriate. |
| 03:35.23 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 03:35.42 | hyperChipmunk | in battleground scoreboards, that's how they are |
| 03:35.46 | hyperChipmunk | but in raid, they're purple |
| 03:35.59 | Tain | Purple is too good for them. |
| 03:36.04 | hyperChipmunk | agreed |
| 03:39.15 | Tem | c88295 |
| 03:39.31 | Tem | there's the problem |
| 03:39.37 | Tem | it doesn't have the leading FF |
| 03:40.23 | ckknight | it's not supposed to, there |
| 03:40.30 | Tem | ? |
| 03:40.38 | ckknight | it returns rgb, not argb |
| 03:41.13 | Tem | but, how are you suppsed to use that? |
| 03:41.25 | Tem | I mean, with the leading c |
| 03:41.29 | Tem | you have to inject the ff |
| 03:41.32 | Tem | that's messy |
| 03:41.47 | hyperChipmunk | you always have to do that with boss's stuff |
| 03:41.57 | ckknight | you're messy. |
| 03:42.02 | Tain | Messy is his middle name |
| 03:42.10 | ckknight | getglobal("WorldStateScoreButton" .. i .. "NameButtonName"):SetTextColor(self.babble.GetClassColor(class)) |
| 03:42.15 | ckknight | that's the code that colors it |
| 03:42.25 | ckknight | doesn't even deal with hex anyway |
| 03:43.07 | Tem | alright |
| 03:43.42 | Tem | hmm |
| 03:43.49 | Tem | then something else is bonkers |
| 03:44.01 | Tem | Babble is returning the right color information for locks |
| 03:44.25 | ckknight | can I see a screenie? |
| 03:44.35 | Tem | but on the scoreboard, I can't even distinguish locks and shammies |
| 03:44.41 | Tem | sure, next time wsg pops |
| 03:45.11 | Tem | PanelClass.lua:594: Plugin not in panel |
| 03:46.22 | hyperChipmunk | tem |
| 03:46.25 | hyperChipmunk | that's how bgs are |
| 03:46.30 | hyperChipmunk | it's different than their normal color |
| 03:46.40 | hyperChipmunk | it's always like that |
| 03:46.44 | Tem | no it's not |
| 03:46.51 | Tem | the score frame isn't normally colored at all |
| 03:46.52 | hyperChipmunk | yes, it is; I'll put up screens |
| 03:47.06 | hyperChipmunk | oh dang, you're right lol |
| 03:47.11 | Tem | *eyeroll* |
| 03:47.16 | hyperChipmunk | I've been using it for so long I'd forgotten |
| 03:47.31 | Tem | hehe |
| 03:47.32 | hyperChipmunk | boss, fix your colors loser |
| 03:47.37 | Tem | his color is right |
| 03:47.40 | Tem | something else is wrong |
| 03:47.49 | hyperChipmunk | red background? |
| 03:48.12 | hyperChipmunk | might be just an optical illusion |
| 03:48.17 | Tem | no |
| 03:48.23 | Tem | same with the blue background |
| 03:48.37 | hyperChipmunk | iirc, that's how it was with titan too |
| 03:48.42 | ckknight | I need a screenie. |
| 03:48.43 | hyperChipmunk | probably because of the blue background |
| 03:48.48 | hyperChipmunk | blends in, maybe |
| 03:49.03 | Tem | trying ckknight, but the damn bg won't pop |
| 03:49.05 | hyperChipmunk | purple may actually not be a good idea |
| 03:49.19 | ckknight | not my color choice |
| 03:49.21 | hyperChipmunk | i've got screens |
| 03:49.23 | hyperChipmunk | gimme sec |
| 03:49.32 | Tem | hmm, what's the name of the frame? |
| 03:50.08 | Tem | WorldStateScoreFrame |
| 03:50.10 | ckknight | SorldStateFrame? |
| 03:50.17 | ckknight | ah, that's it |
| 03:50.23 | Tem | which aparently has an OnShow method to update it :( |
| 03:50.56 | hyperChipmunk | scoreboard is jacked up |
| 03:50.59 | hyperChipmunk | all bg stuff is |
| 03:51.14 | Tem | yeah... I'm not a huge fan of the scoreboard |
| 03:51.22 | Tem | it bugs out all the time |
| 03:53.17 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/scoreboard.png |
| 03:53.27 | Tem | I'm tempted to write a scoreboard replacement |
| 03:53.30 | hyperChipmunk | padrote, kongron are warlocks |
| 03:53.35 | Tem | "JumboTron" |
| 03:53.48 | hyperChipmunk | khadu/wallcrusher shamans, lothair paladin |
| 03:54.19 | Tem | jesus |
| 03:54.30 | Tem | enough high-ranking people in that match for you? |
| 03:54.40 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 03:54.57 | hyperChipmunk | the argon was a pickup =) |
| 03:55.27 | haste | nothing is more fun the WSG with your guild :) |
| 03:55.35 | Tem | agreed |
| 03:55.38 | hyperChipmunk | taand facemasher was their bwl-warrior ringer =x |
| 03:55.57 | hyperChipmunk | they just gave him the flag and pointed him to their base |
| 03:56.17 | Tem | for a warrior he sure died a lot... |
| 03:56.24 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 03:56.39 | hyperChipmunk | he's got the second-least deaths |
| 03:56.43 | hyperChipmunk | for the horde |
| 03:57.20 | hyperChipmunk | that was a 51m battle, I think; it was a good one |
| 03:57.54 | Tem | yeah, that's the big thing I want to change... |
| 03:58.05 | Tem | sort-ability |
| 03:58.09 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 03:58.15 | hyperChipmunk | problem is |
| 03:58.23 | hyperChipmunk | what's messed up is for stats |
| 03:58.41 | Tem | ? |
| 03:58.51 | hyperChipmunk | it uses the scoreboard |
| 03:58.54 | hyperChipmunk | not the other way around |
| 03:59.15 | hyperChipmunk | the api function GetScoreWhatever(1) returns the top line of the scoreboard |
| 03:59.20 | Tem | right |
| 03:59.45 | Tem | that means you have to cache the data and then sort it yourself |
| 03:59.47 | hyperChipmunk | you can't, like, GetScoreForPlayer("Mynithrosil") |
| 03:59.49 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 03:59.59 | Tem | not that big of a deal |
| 04:00.07 | Tem | just makes it a bit more of a PITA |
| 04:00.37 | Tem | aww, I think the allies gave up for the night |
| 04:00.53 | Tem | been 20 minutes and a new bg hasn't poped yet |
| 04:01.33 | Cairenn | Tem: http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showpost.php?p=23415&postcount=25 |
| 04:02.03 | Tem | aha;shf ase |
| 04:02.03 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:02.04 | Tem | \ |
| 04:02.05 | Tem | \\ |
| 04:02.07 | Tem | Xxzx |
| 04:02.30 | Tem | (head + hands banging against my keyboard) |
| 04:02.31 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/scoreboard2.png <---final scorescreen |
| 04:03.18 | Tem | lol @ pallies who never die |
| 04:03.22 | hyperChipmunk | >8) |
| 04:03.25 | hyperChipmunk | he was our ONLY healer |
| 04:03.34 | Tem | oh yeah |
| 04:03.43 | Tem | I forgot that Padrote wasn't a pally |
| 04:04.08 | hyperChipmunk | DARK pink |
| 04:04.11 | Tem | and that's why we need to figure out wtf is wrong with the coloring |
| 04:04.17 | Tem | please |
| 04:04.28 | Tem | you think a red/green colorblind person (me) can see that? |
| 04:04.48 | Tem | I can tell it's pink, and that's lucky |
| 04:05.30 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that's definitely a diff color |
| 04:05.42 | Tem | Cairenn: can WoWI pay for me to fly to Europe |
| 04:05.47 | Tem | I want to kick that guy in the balls |
| 04:05.50 | Tem | twice |
| 04:06.00 | hyperChipmunk | 9482c9 vs c88296 for the scoreboard |
| 04:06.00 | Cairenn | Tem: I don't think so, since it can't pay to fly me to LA |
| 04:06.06 | hyperChipmunk | dude |
| 04:06.08 | hyperChipmunk | it's backwards |
| 04:06.19 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: ? |
| 04:06.26 | hyperChipmunk | look at the number |
| 04:06.27 | hyperChipmunk | s |
| 04:06.33 | Tem | right right |
| 04:06.39 | Tem | but where are you getting this? |
| 04:06.44 | hyperChipmunk | 9482c9 <--> c98294 |
| 04:06.48 | hyperChipmunk | eyedropper |
| 04:07.01 | Tem | OH! |
| 04:07.02 | hyperChipmunk | c98294 ~ c88296 |
| 04:07.14 | Tem | the C isn't the C at the front of the color |
| 04:07.21 | Tem | the C is a hex digit |
| 04:07.25 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 04:08.07 | hyperChipmunk | but that's boss's addon |
| 04:08.13 | hyperChipmunk | he ought to have gotten it right |
| 04:08.34 | hyperChipmunk | it's bgr not rgb |
| 04:08.54 | hyperChipmunk | *changes for his sanity* |
| 04:09.04 | Tem | I just can't count |
| 04:09.04 | hyperChipmunk | that's always freaking bothored me |
| 04:09.34 | Tem | Cairenn: please? |
| 04:09.48 | Cairenn | Tem: ? |
| 04:09.57 | Cairenn | ah, heh, nm ... I wish, sorry |
| 04:10.05 | Tem | pretty please? |
| 04:10.08 | Tem | with a cherry on top? |
| 04:10.22 | Tem | I *need* to bring the pain |
| 04:10.28 | Tem | and that fucker needs to feel it |
| 04:10.38 | Tem | in the place where his babies are |
| 04:10.42 | Cairenn | I can't believe how completely obtuse they are |
| 04:11.03 | Cairenn | makes me rather sad |
| 04:11.06 | Tem | but more importantly, I need to find out the exact copyright law |
| 04:11.16 | Tem | so I can threaten to sue them |
| 04:11.28 | Tem | even though that would be way more effort than I am willing to go through with |
| 04:11.31 | Cairenn | ah, but he's saying it doesn't matter, since they are in Europe |
| 04:11.38 | Tem | well he's full of shit |
| 04:11.41 | Tem | because I'm in the US |
| 04:11.45 | Tem | I wrote my code in the US |
| 04:11.45 | Cairenn | (again, wrong, but that's what he's saying) |
| 04:11.57 | Tem | so it is protected by US copyright law |
| 04:11.58 | hyperChipmunk | so dude |
| 04:12.15 | hyperChipmunk | if I'm in europe, I can take a novel written in the US and distribute it without penalty |
| 04:12.17 | Cairenn | anyway, sorry, didn't mean to get you all riled up again |
| 04:12.19 | hyperChipmunk | rock on |
| 04:12.23 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: sure! |
| 04:12.28 | Tem | k,l9l000l |
| 04:12.37 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: please post that |
| 04:12.41 | Cairenn | hehehhe |
| 04:12.50 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: that is the best example of how fucking retarded that guy is being |
| 04:13.00 | Tem | I think I may take up smoking |
| 04:13.07 | Tem | that would certainly help right now... |
| 04:13.24 | Cairenn | trust me, as one who knows ... no it wouldn't |
| 04:13.29 | hyperChipmunk | gimme a popular modern american writer |
| 04:13.33 | Cairenn | you'd just end up kicking yourself later on |
| 04:13.39 | hyperChipmunk | tom clancy is USA right |
| 04:13.45 | Cairenn | yes |
| 04:13.47 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 04:14.58 | Cairenn | honestly, I have to wonder if they are being *deliberately* obtuse |
| 04:15.07 | Cairenn | are they *really* that ignorant? |
| 04:15.22 | Tem | they can't be |
| 04:15.41 | Tem | AARARAGARAAAARRRRRG |
| 04:17.39 | hyperChipmunk | http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showpost.php?p=23423&postcount=26 |
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| 04:18.47 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 04:19.09 | hyperChipmunk | Cairenn: http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showpost.php?p=23423&postcount=26 |
| 04:19.29 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: lol, cool |
| 04:21.47 | *** join/#wowace Wobin_ (n=Wobin@221.221.30.109) |
| 04:22.15 | hyperChipmunk | europeans suck |
| 04:22.38 | hyperChipmunk | what a bunch of total morons! |
| 04:23.38 | Tem | ok, I found the international treaty |
| 04:23.44 | Tem | so, fuck that guy |
| 04:23.51 | Tem | Article 4: |
| 04:24.06 | Tem | Computer programs are protected as literary works within the meaning of Article 2 of the Berne Convention. Such protection applies to computer programs, whatever may be the mode or form of their expression. |
| 04:24.33 | hyperChipmunk | do you have article 2 of the berne convention? |
| 04:24.36 | Tem | and the Berne Convention can be found here: http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html |
| 04:24.54 | Tem | specifically, article 2, here: http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/2.html |
| 04:25.37 | hyperChipmunk | find (5) Collections of literary or artistic works such as encyclopaedias and anthologies which, by reason of the selection and arrangement of their contents, constitute intellectual creations shall be protected as such, without prejudice to the copyright in each of the works forming part of such collections. |
| 04:25.45 | hyperChipmunk | (6) The works mentioned in this article shall enjoy protection in all countries of the Union. This protection shall operate for the benefit of the author and his successors in title. |
| 04:27.11 | Cairenn | so, copy/paste |
| 04:27.37 | hyperChipmunk | undersigned Plenipotentiaries |
| 04:27.42 | hyperChipmunk | that's a great phrase |
| 04:28.30 | Tem | I'm working on it |
| 04:28.33 | hyperChipmunk | Cornell is an american university? find a European university |
| 04:28.47 | Cairenn | unfortunately, check 2 and 7 |
| 04:28.54 | Cairenn | of 2 |
| 04:28.55 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I was looking at 7 |
| 04:29.41 | hyperChipmunk | it's not a model though; it's implemented |
| 04:30.10 | Tem | http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?p=23424#post23424 |
| 04:30.13 | Cairenn | *nod* BUT, france may not abide by it |
| 04:30.25 | hyperChipmunk | and the second one doesn't say individuals decide; their bound by t...right |
| 04:30.32 | hyperChipmunk | s/their/they're/ |
| 04:30.38 | hyperChipmunk | which I'm 99% certain they are |
| 04:31.02 | hyperChipmunk | because they want their stuff protected too |
| 04:31.13 | ckknight | woot, I created a plugin profiling system that works on a per-method level |
| 04:31.25 | hyperChipmunk | and if they refuse to protect works from any of the other countries, then nobody will protect theirs |
| 04:31.42 | Tem | see that's the beauty of copy/paste. Odds are they won't even follow the links |
| 04:32.01 | hyperChipmunk | it doesn't matter |
| 04:32.43 | hyperChipmunk | France isn't going to put its entire body of authors out to sea to defend one of their citizens' rights to yoink your code |
| 04:33.46 | Cairenn | "May I ask a question? Instead of just apologizing for making a mistake and then procceeding to clean up your act, why are you guys instead being so defensive?" <== I want to post that, but I think I've probably already put in as much as I can without it being turned into something else entirely, which is not the point of the exercise |
| 04:34.10 | ckknight | I'll post it |
| 04:34.18 | ckknight | if you want |
| 04:34.32 | Cairenn | if you feel it is appropriate and wish to do so, you are welcome to |
| 04:34.33 | Tem | no, I'd rather them wallow in the fact that they broke the law |
| 04:34.38 | Tem | international fucking law |
| 04:34.46 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:35.03 | ckknight | copyright law is observed by the latge majority of nations |
| 04:35.18 | ckknight | pretty much everyone except a few in Africa and Asia |
| 04:35.48 | Cairenn | I am all about supporting you guys, which is why I've stepped in and said as much as I have, but if I say much more then instead of this being about them fucking over authors, it's going to be twisted around to be a pissing match between sites, and that isn't what it's about at all |
| 04:36.59 | Cairenn | so my stepping back out (of the thread, at least) is actually the best way I can support you guys, at this point |
| 04:37.09 | Tem | agreed |
| 04:37.13 | ckknight | good idea, Cairenn |
| 04:37.24 | Cairenn | it keeps the focus on the true issue here |
| 04:37.33 | ckknight | we can surely piss farther than they. |
| 04:37.45 | Tem | you kidding? |
| 04:37.48 | Cairenn | I just don't want you guys to think that I've stopped backing you or anything |
| 04:37.48 | Tem | they're french |
| 04:37.52 | Tem | they pee on their shoes |
| 04:37.57 | Cairenn | Tem: >< |
| 04:38.01 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 04:38.06 | Cairenn | not all people from France are assholes |
| 04:38.08 | hyperChipmunk | omg |
| 04:38.10 | Tem | I know |
| 04:38.14 | hyperChipmunk | tem |
| 04:38.16 | Tem | I've been to franch |
| 04:38.19 | Tem | I know french people |
| 04:38.26 | Tem | I know *nice* french people |
| 04:38.26 | hyperChipmunk | you've been to franch? |
| 04:38.32 | Tem | I actually like it out there |
| 04:38.46 | ckknight | I've been to French Canada |
| 04:38.49 | ckknight | it's the real Canada |
| 04:38.53 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:38.54 | Tem | I've been to france* |
| 04:39.10 | Tem | My uncle took me to france as my graduation present |
| 04:39.11 | ckknight | I went to Quebec this summer |
| 04:39.14 | ckknight | cool |
| 04:39.21 | ckknight | I have no inclination to go to France |
| 04:39.23 | Tem | I'm from south louisiana which has strong roots with france |
| 04:39.27 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 04:39.43 | Tem | my great grandparents didn't even know english |
| 04:39.47 | Tem | they spoke french |
| 04:39.51 | hyperChipmunk | when I go to canada, I get on the freeway and head south =P |
| 04:39.51 | Cairenn | Tem: strong Nova Scotia, Canada roots, too |
| 04:39.56 | Tem | well, cajun french |
| 04:40.01 | Tem | but french nontheless |
| 04:40.13 | Tem | Cairenn: yes, That's my 'next' vacation |
| 04:40.27 | Cairenn | NS == home for me :) |
| 04:40.55 | Cairenn | <== Bluenoser, born and raised |
| 04:41.42 | Cairenn | so the french I know is probably very close to the french you know |
| 04:42.03 | Tem | I know real french thanks to the schools in the region |
| 04:42.07 | Cairenn | since the french I know is Acadian ... Acadian => Cajun |
| 04:42.26 | Tem | cajun french goes over my head almost as fast as it does most other people |
| 04:42.53 | Tem | there are just so many expressions that just don't exist in normal french that they use |
| 04:44.22 | Cairenn | yet, both Acadian & Cajun french is actually closer to Parisan french than the crap they speak in Quebec, although anyone from Quebec would smack you if you dared to call them on it |
| 04:44.48 | Tem | haha |
| 04:45.16 | Tem | I think the Belgians have the best version |
| 04:45.17 | Cairenn | pisses them off to no end :p |
| 04:45.47 | Cairenn | oh? |
| 04:45.53 | Tem | It's like normal french except they got rid of the bullshit that is the numbers 70-79 90-99 |
| 04:46.01 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:46.18 | ckknight | ? |
| 04:46.29 | Cairenn | glad someone did :p |
| 04:46.31 | Tem | Parisian french has no word for 70 |
| 04:46.33 | Tem | or 90 |
| 04:46.43 | Tem | so they are 60,10 and 80,10 |
| 04:46.46 | ckknight | hrm |
| 04:46.52 | Cairenn | heh, yup |
| 04:46.56 | ckknight | wtf? |
| 04:46.59 | ckknight | why? |
| 04:47.19 | Tem | so in english 71 is "sixty eleven" |
| 04:47.34 | Tem | 95 "eighty fifteen" |
| 04:47.59 | Tem | the belgians made up works for 70 and 90 |
| 04:48.03 | Tem | s/works/words/ |
| 04:48.55 | ckknight | hrm |
| 04:49.12 | ckknight | do they have 30 and 50? |
| 04:49.16 | Tem | yes |
| 04:49.30 | ckknight | hooray for inconsistencies |
| 04:50.02 | Tem | I'm sure there was a 'good' reason for it back when the language was evolving |
| 04:50.06 | Tem | but... um... |
| 04:50.10 | Tem | not anymore |
| 04:50.34 | Tem | but since the Belgians came up with it, the french will be stiff-necked about it |
| 04:51.07 | Tem | it would kill them to admit the belgians did something better than them |
| 04:52.21 | Cairenn | ckknight: edit to put "(broke international law)" in after "made a mistake"? |
| 04:52.36 | ckknight | will do |
| 04:52.54 | Cairenn | yeah, I know, I'm a bitch |
| 04:53.56 | ckknight | and yet we still love you |
| 04:54.04 | Tem | <3 Cairenn |
| 04:54.07 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but you're OUR bitch |
| 04:54.10 | hyperChipmunk | and that counts for something |
| 04:54.12 | Cairenn | awwww |
| 04:55.21 | Cairenn | hehehhee |
| 04:55.39 | ckknight | I'm writing DebugFu, which shows stastistics about memory usage and such on a plugin, what'd be a good icon for it? |
| 04:56.05 | yall | *with a southern drawl* yall talk real funny |
| 04:56.24 | ckknight | see, you have to end it with "Yankee" |
| 04:56.25 | Cairenn | ckknight: scroll down to the very bottom of the forums at WoWI ... use the green lightening bolt thingy |
| 04:56.49 | ckknight | will do |
| 04:56.51 | Cairenn | that's what Blizz uses for realm status, and what we use for "stats" |
| 04:56.59 | Cairenn | it's a suggestion, nothing more |
| 04:57.01 | Tem | oh cool |
| 04:57.04 | Tem | I like it |
| 04:57.06 | ckknight | hopefully this will help authors make better code |
| 04:57.22 | Tem | ckknight: does it auto-magically yell at authors for doing bad things? |
| 04:57.29 | Cairenn | Tem: lol |
| 04:57.42 | ckknight | no, but it'll pinpoint specifically the location that is causing lag/memory spikes |
| 04:57.43 | Tem | I was being serious |
| 04:57.46 | Tem | why you laugh at me? |
| 04:57.53 | Cairenn | because I love you |
| 04:57.59 | Tem | :) |
| 04:58.39 | Cairenn | hmmmm ... you guys seen this yet? http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/1p11/roadtodamnation.html |
| 04:59.18 | Tem | yeah I read it at work |
| 04:59.31 | Tem | I want to know who their writer is for that stuff |
| 04:59.35 | Tem | he should write a book |
| 04:59.41 | Tem | I'd give them money |
| 05:00.12 | Tem | especially if it covered the war3 story-line since I'm far too lazy to play the game to learn it |
| 05:01.15 | Cairenn | Tem: http://shop.blizzard.com/?user=2qDA6CPKkXjHHVIMcEySs0bvTJXRhnD3wbOPI514m6s= |
| 05:01.39 | Cairenn | he may very well already have done so |
| 05:02.32 | Tem | that sounds familiar |
| 05:02.43 | Tem | (to the begining of TFT) |
| 05:02.50 | Cairenn | Warcraft: The Sunwell Trilogy Volume I: Dragon Hunt; Warcraft: War of the Ancients Trilogy |
| 05:02.50 | Cairenn | Book Two: The Demon Soul; Warcraft: War of the Ancients Trilogy |
| 05:02.50 | Cairenn | Book Three: The Sundering; rld of Warcraft: Cycle of Hatred |
| 05:02.52 | Tem | which is really the story I didn't play through |
| 05:03.30 | Tem | Cairenn: did you happen to get a Collector's Edition of WoW? |
| 05:03.38 | Cairenn | nope |
| 05:03.45 | Tem | Anyone here get one? |
| 05:04.00 | Cairenn | because I couldn't get just one, I would have had to get three, and I just couldn't justify the extra cash |
| 05:04.18 | Tem | I'm surprized wowi didn't buy it for you |
| 05:04.33 | Tem | or rather, I'm surprized that blizzard didn't give a few copies to wowi |
| 05:05.09 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: what mpq is the music in? |
| 05:05.13 | Codayus | hmmm |
| 05:05.15 | Tem | *facepalm* |
| 05:05.20 | Codayus | is svn down? |
| 05:05.21 | Tem | sound.mpq anyone? |
| 05:05.23 | Tem | Codayus: yes |
| 05:05.23 | Cairenn | Codayus: yes |
| 05:05.28 | Codayus | Doh |
| 05:05.31 | Codayus | :-) |
| 05:05.34 | Cairenn | Tem: *chuckle* |
| 05:05.37 | Codayus | Thanks |
| 05:06.15 | ckknight | is there an ETA or estimated ETA for 1.11? |
| 05:06.23 | Tem | hmm |
| 05:06.27 | Tem | it *is* the mage patch |
| 05:06.28 | Tem | so... |
| 05:06.29 | Tem | never |
| 05:06.46 | Cairenn | ckknight: nothing that's been whispered in my ear as of yet ... |
| 05:07.16 | Tem | oh boo.. the music in the mpq is all divided up and stuff |
| 05:07.28 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 05:07.29 | Tem | when are they going to sell the soundtrack? |
| 05:07.39 | hyperChipmunk | cat ftw |
| 05:08.05 | Tem | straight up cat would sucessfully combine audio files? |
| 05:08.09 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 05:08.12 | Tem | !! |
| 05:08.13 | hyperChipmunk | i do it all the time |
| 05:08.30 | hyperChipmunk | cat a.mp3 b.mp3 > ab.mp3 |
| 05:08.38 | Tem | I would think they would have ... you know .. stuff at the front |
| 05:08.49 | hyperChipmunk | even done it with video |
| 05:08.54 | Tem | wow |
| 05:08.56 | Tem | cat rocks |
| 05:09.00 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 05:09.09 | hyperChipmunk | might be mplayer that just doesn't care =) |
| 05:09.14 | Cairenn | Tem: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/sounds.html# |
| 05:09.31 | hyperChipmunk | that's annoying |
| 05:09.35 | hyperChipmunk | and it doesn't work like ever |
| 05:09.38 | hyperChipmunk | and you can't rip it |
| 05:10.16 | Tem | I'd rather just pay for the soundtrack |
| 05:10.47 | hyperChipmunk | but they always cut stuff out of those |
| 05:10.58 | hyperChipmunk | there's more than 80m of music in wow |
| 05:11.14 | Tem | it's not multiple CDs? |
| 05:11.27 | hyperChipmunk | there isn't a soundtrack at all |
| 05:11.30 | hyperChipmunk | afaik |
| 05:11.54 | Cairenn | I had thought they had released some, if not all, of it ... trying to find a link ... I may be remembering incorrectly however, wouldn't be the first time |
| 05:11.59 | hyperChipmunk | oh, wait there is |
| 05:12.07 | hyperChipmunk | http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:F9w99GEbcKkJ:www.chudahs-corner.com/soundtracks/wow.html+warcraft+soundtrack&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox |
| 05:12.12 | hyperChipmunk | -O |
| 05:12.26 | hyperChipmunk | sec, lemme find one that I didn't have to go to googlecach to retrieve |
| 05:12.37 | hyperChipmunk | but it's 1 cd |
| 05:12.56 | hyperChipmunk | 30 tracks...hm, thought cds were limited to liek 22 or something |
| 05:13.11 | Tem | apparently not |
| 05:13.12 | Cairenn | http://shop.blizzard.com/section5/?user=2qDA6KXJkXh9H1IMBUpl4Amh9X6p7nCjH7KPNzt2KXM= |
| 05:13.22 | Tekkub | CD's are limiited to 99 |
| 05:13.28 | Cairenn | but I'm *not* seeing the sound track |
| 05:13.29 | Tekkub | the indexes are only 2 digits |
| 05:13.43 | Tem | They haven't released the soundtrack on it's own yet |
| 05:13.50 | Cairenn | starcraft |
| 05:13.58 | Cairenn | but not WoW |
| 05:14.14 | Tem | The soundtrack only comes with The colector's edition |
| 05:14.26 | Tem | but they said at some point that they were going to sell them seperately |
| 05:14.32 | Cairenn | well, and it's being added too all the time, also |
| 05:15.11 | Tem | good point |
| 05:16.10 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 05:16.24 | Tekkub | damnit |
| 05:16.45 | Tekkub | I'm bored, horny, have tomorrow off, and would like a flesh appendage tonight |
| 05:17.03 | Tekkub | where is that bitch Wade when you need a substitute bear? |
| 05:17.38 | Cairenn | and a good evening to you, too, Tekkub |
| 05:17.47 | Tekkub | *grin* |
| 05:18.02 | Tekkub | I NEED COCK! Oh and hi to you too! |
| 05:18.56 | Tekkub | Tem: it changes sizes too |
| 05:19.08 | Cairenn | heh, Tem ... tekkub's info or mine? ;) |
| 05:19.15 | Tekkub | one size fills all |
| 05:19.21 | Tem | the sock drawer comment |
| 05:19.39 | Tem | rofl! |
| 05:20.13 | Tem | having a non-standard font installed completely screws up the game intro sub titles |
| 05:20.26 | Cairenn | oh yeah? |
| 05:21.00 | Cairenn | you should screenshot it then |
| 05:23.38 | Tem | Silly fire mage |
| 05:23.44 | Tem | infernals are fire-imune |
| 05:23.52 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:23.59 | ckknight | woot |
| 05:24.16 | Tem | ? |
| 05:25.08 | Wobin_ | hm, 1.11 might actually convince me to retry my mage character |
| 05:25.08 | Tem | ? |
| 05:25.08 | Tem | Wobin_: ? |
| 05:25.39 | Wobin_ | Oh, I've got a level 24 mage hanging around being my disenchantmule, mostly cause I could never get good enough to not die all the time |
| 05:26.00 | Tem | lol |
| 05:26.10 | weab | curse's "cleanup project" makes me giggle |
| 05:26.28 | Tem | if you play the right, mages border on overpowered at levels 1-59 |
| 05:26.35 | Tem | s/e r/em r/ |
| 05:26.39 | Wobin_ | "don't worry, yours will probably be deleted too" Cause "nerrrr!" |
| 05:27.05 | Wobin_ | I never got the strategy down well enough, I guess =) |
| 05:27.11 | weab | Tem: are we talking what, pve? |
| 05:27.21 | Tem | both |
| 05:27.22 | Wobin_ | (For me at least, pve) |
| 05:27.45 | Tem | mages are gods until the itemization problems of raiding kick in |
| 05:27.51 | Tem | well |
| 05:27.53 | Tem | they were |
| 05:27.57 | weab | i really disagree with that |
| 05:28.07 | Tem | the last time I leveled a mage was over a year ago so this may have changed |
| 05:28.10 | Wobin_ | Have you seen the AQ staff of MAGEPEWPEWPEW? |
| 05:28.18 | Tem | no ? |
| 05:28.26 | weab | i think a lot of the class overhauls since you levelled your mage |
| 05:28.30 | weab | really fucked mages up |
| 05:28.34 | Wobin_ | I'm not sure if I can find the link, but I'll try |
| 05:28.42 | weab | yes, i completely agree that mages were very good early on |
| 05:28.43 | Tem | oh, weab, that sucks |
| 05:28.45 | weab | (better in beta :P) |
| 05:28.58 | Tem | in beta, mages were the shamen of the pvp world |
| 05:29.01 | Wobin_ | The AQ Priest staff of "Dear god" is brilliant. something like +400 healing or something similarly stupid |
| 05:29.26 | Tem | _wow_ |
| 05:29.26 | hyperChipmunk | why does bigwigs's rag submerge timer reset to three minutes when it's like half over |
| 05:30.23 | Wobin_ | http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=52779 |
| 05:30.31 | Wobin_ | AQ staff of MAGEPEWPEWPEW |
| 05:30.54 | haste | that one drops often :< |
| 05:31.22 | Tem | oh |
| 05:31.26 | Tem | I've seen that |
| 05:31.30 | Tem | not that good |
| 05:31.41 | Tem | Shadowflame is better |
| 05:32.03 | Tem | besides, isn't that an AQ20 drop? |
| 05:32.11 | Wobin_ | oh |
| 05:32.15 | Tem | oh, I guess not if it comes from Skeram |
| 05:32.19 | Wobin_ | okay, so I exaggerate =) |
| 05:32.49 | Tem | http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=51940 |
| 05:32.51 | Wobin_ | Anyway. Maybe the new mage changes will inspire me to learn =P |
| 05:32.54 | haste | Tem: shadow flame is nefarian I think |
| 05:33.02 | Tem | yes, Shadow Flame is from Nef |
| 05:33.14 | weab | so are all of you excited to get your hands on a wii? |
| 05:33.16 | Tem | Quiraji Prophets is from Skeram |
| 05:33.19 | weab | other than Tekkub |
| 05:33.21 | haste | AQ40 :) |
| 05:33.32 | Tem | that's a terrible drop for AQ40 |
| 05:33.37 | haste | yep |
| 05:33.43 | haste | and it drops often too :( |
| 05:33.47 | Tem | especially when an 'easier' boss drops a better one |
| 05:33.47 | Wobin_ | wii? |
| 05:33.56 | weab | http://revolution.nintendo.com/ |
| 05:33.56 | Tem | same question as Wobin_ |
| 05:33.59 | haste | nef is harder the nskeram :o |
| 05:34.03 | weab | revolution's new name |
| 05:34.13 | Wobin_ | pronounced 'Whee'? |
| 05:34.18 | haste | the first four bosses in AQ40 are basicly easier then the BWL bosses |
| 05:34.21 | weab | yes, as in wee wee |
| 05:34.42 | Tekkub | wii? |
| 05:34.49 | haste | they actually named it wii? |
| 05:34.53 | weab | yes rofl |
| 05:35.02 | ckknight | Revolution was cool, though |
| 05:35.06 | weab | http://www.thetriforce.com/newblog/images/mario%20wii.jpg |
| 05:35.13 | Wobin_ | What was wrong with revolution? =P |
| 05:35.13 | weab | mario wii! |
| 05:35.20 | Wobin_ | Too many syllables? =P |
| 05:35.22 | Cairenn | so are they firing whatever genius came up with that name and the person that allowed it to go through? |
| 05:35.24 | haste | http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot0428060110224ci.jpg << .. I got a little shock |
| 05:35.26 | Tekkub | I have plenty of handheld toys that vibrate |
| 05:35.27 | ckknight | http://ckknight.hopto.org:8080/screen.jpg |
| 05:35.32 | ckknight | take a look at that |
| 05:35.35 | Tekkub | that one doen't look too fun |
| 05:35.46 | weab | rofl |
| 05:36.17 | Tem | so... wtf is it? |
| 05:36.29 | Cairenn | ckknight: heh, I take it you liked the suggestion for the icon |
| 05:36.34 | Wobin_ | http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=52896 |
| 05:36.36 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:36.37 | ckknight | I stole it |
| 05:36.49 | Wobin_ | That one has a nice 15per mana regen |
| 05:36.52 | Cairenn | that's cool |
| 05:37.05 | ckknight | still, the debug thing has great potential |
| 05:37.16 | haste | Wobin_: I have that one *grin* |
| 05:38.35 | Wobin_ | ee |
| 05:38.41 | Wobin_ | The grammar on that Wii page =P |
| 05:38.50 | Wobin_ | it's enough to put me off =P |
| 05:39.35 | weab | It's about Wii! |
| 05:39.44 | weab | specifically, my wii and if i'll get any cute girls to play with it |
| 05:39.46 | Wobin_ | "While the codename 'Revolution' expressed our direction, Wii represents the answer." |
| 05:39.53 | ckknight | let's all play with our wii wiis |
| 05:39.55 | Wobin_ | There was no question in the first place! |
| 05:40.12 | weab | MOM! Dad's playing with my wii again! |
| 05:40.30 | Wobin_ | fer gods sake, why not just call it kok |
| 05:40.37 | ckknight | NO WII |
| 05:40.51 | weab | no wii until you finish your vegetables |
| 05:42.20 | Cairenn | so are they firing whatever genius came up with that name and the person that allowed it to go through? |
| 05:42.41 | Wobin_ | Worst name ever =P |
| 05:42.41 | weab | one would assume it required a group of individuals' approval |
| 05:42.52 | Wobin_ | it's not even witty |
| 05:43.04 | Cairenn | it's a stupid name |
| 05:43.06 | Wobin_ | Two i's? |
| 05:43.13 | Tem | It's unique! |
| 05:43.21 | Wobin_ | Then they use it like it's actually 'us' |
| 05:43.23 | ckknight | it's horribly stupid |
| 05:43.23 | weab | i think the two i's signify multiple idividuals |
| 05:43.36 | weab | and those individuals make up "wii" |
| 05:43.57 | weab | but yes it's retarded |
| 05:44.01 | Tem | I think it's a product of 'i' getting tacked onto every fucking tech "gadget" that is created nowadays |
| 05:44.07 | Wobin_ | iWii |
| 05:44.14 | Wobin_ | It'll come. you just watch =P |
| 05:44.23 | Tem | so their logic is "If 1 'i' is good, then 2 must be better" |
| 05:44.29 | ckknight | lol |
| 05:44.43 | weab | someone dyslexic came up with that i think |
| 05:45.02 | Tem | lol |
| 05:45.55 | weab | although i do have to admit, this could be a pretty brilliant move. if they're looking to get a lot of people talking about their wii, people will certainly start talking about how stupid its name is |
| 05:46.07 | Cairenn | true |
| 05:46.17 | Wobin_ | It doesn't inspire me to believe 'brilliance' though |
| 05:46.20 | weab | then in a month or two they'll say "oops that name sucks. here's the new one" |
| 05:46.43 | Wobin_ | it's more inspiring me to think junior school toilet humour |
| 05:46.52 | Wobin_ | Which doesn't impress me to want to go buy one |
| 05:48.46 | weab | the claim is they want regular people to be interested in it instead of just the nerds. but i can't help think the nerds will be attracted to it so they can use it as a pickup line |
| 05:49.51 | Cairenn | I hate the way they mess around with parts of speech. "Revolution" is not a question. Nor is "Wii" an answer. |
| 05:51.07 | weab | yeah, i can't even really stretch that into making sense |
| 05:51.29 | weab | looks to me like its supposed to sound deep when it isnt :p |
| 05:51.39 | Wobin_ | Cairenn: My point exactly *points up* |
| 05:51.49 | Tem | ckknight: I have a modified version of DewDrop that makes the sliders better |
| 05:51.56 | ckknight | pastebin |
| 05:51.59 | Tem | kay |
| 05:52.05 | ckknight | and how "better"? |
| 05:52.08 | Wobin_ | DewiiDrop |
| 05:52.20 | Cairenn | when we named it "Revolution" it was asking the question. now by naming it "Wii" we are providing the answer to the question we posed with "Revolution" ... hello? that is pure crap |
| 05:52.33 | ckknight | how is revolution a question? |
| 05:52.37 | ckknight | it was a cool name |
| 05:52.42 | Cairenn | what "question" did "revolution" ask |
| 05:52.47 | Wobin_ | um |
| 05:52.52 | ckknight | shall we revolt then? |
| 05:52.54 | Cairenn | and "wii"? that isn't an answer. it isn't even a bloody word |
| 05:52.54 | ckknight | Wii! |
| 05:52.55 | Wobin_ | How to prevent the Man from getting you down? |
| 05:53.23 | Tem | http://ace.pastebin.com/686409 |
| 05:53.26 | Cairenn | I realize that consumers are stupid, but geezus |
| 05:53.50 | Tem | ckknight: by better I mean more appealing to the eye |
| 05:54.10 | ckknight | screenshot for me? |
| 05:54.23 | weab | Cairenn: i think the question revolution posed is, how stupid could a name be to replace it? |
| 05:54.29 | Cairenn | weab: lol |
| 05:55.17 | Tem | ckknight: it will probably be faster for you to just apply the changes and look |
| 05:55.23 | Tem | but, k |
| 05:56.33 | weab | this way the rest of us can see! |
| 05:57.09 | Cairenn | what weab said! |
| 05:57.24 | ckknight | looks good to me, Tem |
| 05:57.31 | ckknight | yea, post for weab |
| 05:58.08 | Tem | http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/146/slider3yr.png |
| 05:58.37 | Cairenn | unh |
| 05:58.45 | weab | interesting |
| 05:59.08 | weab | that slider sure looks like some kind of text error message |
| 05:59.17 | Cairenn | okay, it isn't just me ... |
| 05:59.18 | weab | :P |
| 05:59.22 | Tem | yeah I'm getting the same thing... |
| 05:59.42 | Tem | perhaps it doesn't like my png |
| 06:00.46 | Tem | wtf |
| 06:00.49 | Tem | ok.. |
| 06:00.53 | Tem | gimme a different site |
| 06:01.02 | haste | http://tinypic.com/ |
| 06:01.39 | Tem | http://208.101.21.154/images/s2_0605dd728c810.png |
| 06:01.40 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 06:02.11 | Cairenn | looks good |
| 06:02.51 | Tem | still doesn't look quite right to me |
| 06:03.08 | Tem | but I think it's the best I can do for now |
| 06:03.19 | Wobin_ | ckknight: Does your hopto address point directly to your home computer? |
| 06:03.25 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:03.30 | Wobin_ | k |
| 06:03.43 | Cairenn | anyway guys, it's way late ... I'm out |
| 06:03.49 | Tem | later Cair |
| 06:06.52 | Wobin_ | woot that worked |
| 06:07.53 | Tem | god damn |
| 06:07.56 | Tem | they won't give up |
| 06:08.12 | Tem | Even when I rub their noses in the legal documents they don't give up |
| 06:08.22 | Tem | Cairenn|sleep: you see the latest posts? |
| 06:08.54 | weab | i recall her mentioning the other day no one lets her go to bed |
| 06:08.57 | weab | ;p |
| 06:09.12 | Wobin_ | Bah |
| 06:09.14 | Tem | I want to give that guy a history lesson |
| 06:09.17 | Wobin_ | Not like we keep her up =P |
| 06:09.18 | Tem | with my fucking fist |
| 06:09.30 | Wobin_ | She'd be awake no matter what we do =) |
| 06:09.48 | weab | this thread is where? |
| 06:09.56 | Tem | http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?t=7695&page=1&pp=10 |
| 06:11.01 | Wobin_ | Warning: It's painful |
| 06:11.16 | Wobin_ | I'd weigh in, but I can't think of anything constructive to add to this thread |
| 06:11.39 | Tem | Wobin_: you have no idea how much self control it's take to keep the words "fuck you" out of my posts in that thread |
| 06:11.58 | Wobin_ | I'm proud of you Tem =) |
| 06:12.12 | haste | "oh noes, you use a OnUpdate every .1 sec to update the time on the castingbar" |
| 06:12.41 | Wobin_ | There's is a certain lack of professional detachment on behalf of the forum moderators, I'm noticing |
| 06:13.01 | haste | ~comfort Tem |
| 06:13.02 | purl | There, there, Tem. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 06:13.03 | *** join/#wowace Godless (n=Godless@tor/session/external/x-a60cb40f288615c3) |
| 06:13.22 | Wobin_ | The Atheist! (or is that Agnostic?) |
| 06:13.34 | Godless | Atheist. |
| 06:13.35 | haste | Atheist |
| 06:13.51 | Wobin_ | Well, an Agnostic may be godless |
| 06:13.54 | Tem | Wobin_: did you see the latest replies (including mine) |
| 06:13.59 | Wobin_ | Yeah |
| 06:14.00 | Godless | hey, as anyone seen this on digg yet? http://digg.com/technology/Rob_Levin,_head_of_Freenode,_Committing_Fraud_ |
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| 06:14.09 | Godless | Wobin_: no, they'd be godded, but not picky over which one |
| 06:14.40 | Wobin_ | Godless: I thought an agnostic was merely one that was unconvinced that there was a God, not a true disbeliever |
| 06:15.00 | Godless | no, one who believes theres a God outthere, just not who or what he/she/it is |
| 06:15.02 | Wobin_ | (Or rather, that's how I've always defined myself as an agnostic) |
| 06:15.14 | Wobin_ | hm, true |
| 06:15.41 | weab | actually |
| 06:15.48 | weab | i dont think you're right |
| 06:15.52 | UnspecificallyGo | bah |
| 06:16.06 | weab | agnosticism is being unconvinced either way |
| 06:16.17 | Wobin_ | yeah. |
| 06:16.31 | Wobin_ | There -may- be a higher power out there, but I haven't been convinced one way or another |
| 06:16.34 | *** join/#wowace [MoonWolf] (n=MoonWolf@a80-127-128-193.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 06:16.35 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [MoonWolf]] by ChanServ |
| 06:16.40 | weab | quote from m-w! "a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and prob. unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god" |
| 06:16.55 | Wobin_ | The real fence sitters =) |
| 06:17.25 | Wobin_ | How did Azraphael put it? Oh yes. Ineffable =P |
| 06:17.46 | Tem | wow |
| 06:17.51 | Tem | Cair is going to be pissed |
| 06:17.58 | Tem | "Also being defensive comes natural when there's an instant influx of people all from the same website here to stir trouble." |
| 06:17.59 | [MoonWolf] | why ? |
| 06:18.10 | [MoonWolf] | who is saying that ? |
| 06:18.18 | Godless | whoever said that is right, Tem |
| 06:18.34 | Tem | http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?t=7695&page=1&pp=10 |
| 06:18.44 | Tem | (assuming they are implying wowi) |
| 06:19.08 | [MoonWolf] | that thread isnt dead yet |
| 06:19.16 | weab | i'm confused |
| 06:19.20 | [MoonWolf] | lock it now Curse moderators... if you dont want all out war. |
| 06:19.20 | Tem | believe it or not, no it's not dead |
| 06:19.22 | weab | what is it you did exactly? |
| 06:19.34 | Tem | weab have you read the thread? |
| 06:19.39 | weab | i started to |
| 06:19.45 | Tem | keep going |
| 06:19.47 | [MoonWolf] | ask the curse crew to stop updating his addons and remove them |
| 06:19.48 | weab | but i'm looking for clarification |
| 06:19.49 | [MoonWolf] | and they id. |
| 06:19.51 | Tem | my post on page 3 explains it |
| 06:19.52 | [MoonWolf] | did* |
| 06:20.25 | Tem | oh wait |
| 06:20.29 | Tem | no, my post on page 2 explains it |
| 06:20.47 | Tem | page 3 and beyond is the cg admins trying to tell me my addons aren't protected under international copyright law |
| 06:20.53 | Tem | which is bullshit |
| 06:21.42 | [MoonWolf] | international copyright applies by default and has to be explicitly given up for it not to apply |
| 06:21.49 | [MoonWolf] | it might be hard to foce it on the internet |
| 06:21.52 | Tem | [MoonWolf]: yes, exactly |
| 06:21.54 | [MoonWolf] | but the rule remains the same. |
| 06:22.27 | Godless | heh? whats happening? |
| 06:22.39 | Tem | Godless: read the thread |
| 06:22.52 | Godless | I mean, can you summarize it? |
| 06:22.56 | Tem | not really |
| 06:23.13 | Godless | grargh. |
| 06:23.13 | ckknight | Copyright law is extremely important |
| 06:23.19 | Tekkub | yup yup... |
| 06:23.24 | Wobin_ | "Also being defensive comes natural when there's an instant influx of people all from the same website here to stir trouble." |
| 06:23.32 | Wobin_ | That is so not an excuse for a 'moderator' |
| 06:23.37 | Tem | Wobin_: yeah, I just noticed that a bit earlier |
| 06:23.51 | [MoonWolf] | tem, yust ignore the thread. |
| 06:23.55 | Tem | I think Cair is going to take offense to that |
| 06:23.58 | [MoonWolf] | you dont want anything to do with curse anymore anyway. |
| 06:24.01 | hyperChipmunk | holy God that guy's a moron |
| 06:24.11 | hyperChipmunk | no offense, Godless |
| 06:24.12 | Godless | well, for one, you dont give up your copyright by hosting files somewhere |
| 06:24.21 | ckknight | right |
| 06:24.27 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: I made him look like a moron in my last post |
| 06:24.32 | ckknight | you still retain copyright (all rights reserved) |
| 06:24.41 | Godless | not only that, you don't give them any license to actually do anything with said files either |
| 06:24.42 | [MoonWolf] | I mean, I used to think that curse only had the problem of a community gone bad. |
| 06:24.45 | Tem | it was a poor replacement for kicking him in the balls, but it will do |
| 06:24.47 | [MoonWolf] | but this is another things. |
| 06:24.57 | ckknight | by putting it up on a website freely, you essentially enter a contract where people can download, but not necessarily reproduce and redistribute |
| 06:25.03 | [MoonWolf] | thing* |
| 06:25.09 | Tem | [MoonWolf]: indeed |
| 06:25.28 | ckknight | s/enter/enter into/ |
| 06:25.29 | Godless | I think they need to learn how stuff works. |
| 06:25.35 | Godless | ckknight: exactly. |
| 06:25.47 | Godless | and technically, you dont even give them a license to download it |
| 06:25.53 | Godless | (ie, really icky law) |
| 06:25.53 | ckknight | right |
| 06:26.03 | ckknight | a license doesn't come with it |
| 06:26.10 | ckknight | which means, by default, all rights reserved |
| 06:26.11 | [MoonWolf] | people are free to download and use my code, and I dont really have a problem with updating, but I explicitly state that they CAN |
| 06:26.12 | Godless | a contract doesnt come into it either. |
| 06:26.26 | hyperChipmunk | I like how he tells you that it's software and modern and not subject to the same things books are, when you specifically posted the article where it said software was included in the Berne Convention |
| 06:26.32 | Godless | [MoonWolf]: what license have you put your code under? |
| 06:26.37 | ckknight | Godless, I mean an artificial contract |
| 06:26.42 | [MoonWolf] | a versoin of the creative commons. |
| 06:26.50 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: yes, I know. hence my most recent post |
| 06:26.56 | Godless | [MoonWolf]: oh jeez, then your stuff is simple |
| 06:27.13 | Godless | depending on which CC license, just keep the author notice, and distribute like mad |
| 06:27.19 | [MoonWolf] | yep |
| 06:27.29 | ckknight | BSD's my favorite software license |
| 06:27.31 | Godless | though, why CC? |
| 06:27.41 | [MoonWolf] | Pretty icons. |
| 06:27.41 | Godless | CC imo just is weird to use for code |
| 06:27.57 | Godless | BSD and GPL are fine though |
| 06:27.57 | ckknight | GPL is not fine :-P |
| 06:27.58 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:28.06 | Godless | you know what I mean |
| 06:28.07 | ckknight | that's just me, though |
| 06:28.14 | Godless | it makes distribution issues less of a hassle. |
| 06:28.26 | ckknight | if you license your code, put it under a proper software license |
| 06:28.26 | [MoonWolf] | been there had that discussion a lot of times ckknight |
| 06:28.38 | ckknight | BSD, LGPL, GPL, what have you |
| 06:28.42 | Godless | exactly. |
| 06:28.43 | [MoonWolf] | about gpl vs bsd etc. |
| 06:28.51 | ckknight | yea, let's not get into that |
| 06:28.56 | Godless | and by doing so, you're enriching the communicty |
| 06:28.57 | Godless | *community |
| 06:29.11 | Godless | yeah, lets just accept GPL and BSD as both fully valid and very popular ways of sticking it to the man. |
| 06:29.23 | ckknight | lousy man/ |
| 06:29.28 | ckknight | always harshing my mellow |
| 06:29.40 | Godless | What sucks is this network is ran by the man =/ |
| 06:29.51 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:29.56 | ckknight | but not overly moderated, though |
| 06:30.05 | Godless | Im surprised I can even connect today |
| 06:30.10 | Godless | He randomly kicks tor out from under everyone |
| 06:30.13 | Godless | just to be funny |
| 06:30.27 | Godless | I think I pasted this, but Im not sure: http://digg.com/technology/Rob_Levin,_head_of_Freenode,_Committing_Fraud_ |
| 06:30.31 | [MoonWolf] | you are using tor ? |
| 06:30.37 | Godless | [MoonWolf]: yeah |
| 06:30.47 | [MoonWolf] | hmmm |
| 06:30.50 | Godless | company I work at has a badly setup firewall |
| 06:30.59 | Godless | it blacklists instead of whitelists |
| 06:31.09 | Godless | so tor works, irc does not. |
| 06:31.17 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 06:31.25 | [MoonWolf] | maybe they never heard of tor. |
| 06:31.34 | [MoonWolf] | what about a slightly more simple http tunnel ? |
| 06:31.45 | Godless | nowhere to tunnel to |
| 06:31.55 | Godless | requires an endpoint, remember? |
| 06:32.24 | [MoonWolf] | home pc |
| 06:32.38 | Godless | non-working dialup |
| 06:32.38 | [MoonWolf] | I used to do it for school |
| 06:32.38 | hyperChipmunk | that's what I do |
| 06:32.42 | Godless | and cant get cable or dsl |
| 06:32.51 | [MoonWolf] | Godless, ah, in that case, I never said anything. |
| 06:32.55 | Godless | lol |
| 06:32.56 | hyperChipmunk | putty + irssi = <3 |
| 06:33.23 | Godless | I wish I could get that digg story to get popular, btw |
| 06:33.30 | ckknight | I also have issues with curse having gold ads |
| 06:33.30 | Godless | so people know whats going on |
| 06:33.31 | weab | that thread is an amazing conglomeration of stupidity and testosterone |
| 06:33.54 | [MoonWolf] | any thread on the wow forums excluding 0.001% |
| 06:33.59 | ckknight | weab, but my dick is clearly bigger... |
| 06:34.05 | Godless | my dick is clearly bigger. |
| 06:34.09 | weab | you mean your wii? |
| 06:34.15 | ckknight | Wii! |
| 06:34.25 | Godless | So, so, I named this motherfucking console, wiiiiiiiiiiii! |
| 06:34.34 | [MoonWolf] | WRRRYYYYYYYYY! |
| 06:34.42 | [MoonWolf] | Sorry, something triggered the 4channer in me. |
| 06:34.42 | Wobin_ | hehe hyperChipmunk That's what got AL fired from Blizzard =P |
| 06:35.00 | Godless | So, you wanna have fun, but you cant get drugs yet, something something something |
| 06:35.09 | Godless | so hold onto your... gonads... and... strife |
| 06:35.22 | Godless | (gonads and strife, gonads and strife, gonads and strife) |
| 06:35.34 | Godless | GONADS IN THE LIGHTING! THE LIGHTNING! AND THE RAIN! |
| 06:35.48 | [MoonWolf] | what the fuck are you ON ? |
| 06:36.01 | weab | its a weird flash thing |
| 06:36.04 | Godless | you havent seen that flash?! |
| 06:36.13 | [MoonWolf] | no...... |
| 06:36.13 | Godless | zomg! wtf! gb2/b/! |
| 06:36.32 | [MoonWolf] | lurk more! |
| 06:36.46 | Godless | OMG! REI I CAME!!! |
| 06:36.56 | ckknight | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/weeee.php |
| 06:36.57 | [MoonWolf] | NO U! |
| 06:37.10 | Tem | ckknight: isn't there a way to resize a detatched panel? (width wise) |
| 06:37.15 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:37.18 | ckknight | drag an edge |
| 06:37.38 | Tem | yeah I found it just as you said that |
| 06:37.41 | Tem | it's kinda hard to find |
| 06:38.16 | weab | like little handles? |
| 06:38.29 | Tem | oh dear |
| 06:38.37 | Tem | ckknight: I just found an interesting bug |
| 06:38.37 | ckknight | it changes your cursor |
| 06:38.41 | ckknight | how is it hard to find> |
| 06:38.46 | ckknight | what's that? |
| 06:38.50 | Tem | cursor didn't change for me |
| 06:39.01 | [MoonWolf] | That flash can turn on a dime, blacksheep style! |
| 06:39.03 | Tem | unless that's a 'new' change that I haven't been able to get yet |
| 06:39.10 | [MoonWolf] | </4chan meme's> |
| 06:39.18 | Tem | ckknight: I created a new panel and resized it |
| 06:39.22 | Wobin_ | hyperChipmunk: That should be your themesong |
| 06:39.27 | Tem | ckknight: then I starteded adding plugins to it |
| 06:39.28 | Tekkub | ugh |
| 06:39.35 | Tekkub | still typing reply to "the thread" |
| 06:39.43 | [MoonWolf] | let it die. |
| 06:39.52 | Tem | ckknight: it responded by creating a new panel for every plugin I had on my main bar |
| 06:39.53 | [MoonWolf] | nobody is getting any better out of itt. |
| 06:40.00 | Godless | hrm |
| 06:40.00 | weab | to be honest |
| 06:40.02 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:40.08 | Godless | I wonder how communication works in the wowlaverse. |
| 06:40.11 | weab | i think on both sides of that thread people are overly heated |
| 06:40.23 | Godless | like, should a meme not spread quickly as fuck? |
| 06:40.39 | [MoonWolf] | they can... but they can be slow too. |
| 06:40.40 | Tekkub | Moon: I'm gracefully asking Silver to revoke my mods and explaining, calmly, why |
| 06:40.49 | Wobin_ | point in fact: Chuck Norris |
| 06:40.54 | ckknight | our side: pro-copyright law, their side: pirates and commies, oh my |
| 06:40.55 | CIA-13 | 03ammo * r1077 10Necronomicon/Necronomicon.lua: Necronmicon: Fixed a bug caused by Resisted/Immune checks on spells not in the timers. |
| 06:41.00 | Godless | I should start a meme |
| 06:41.02 | ckknight | woot, svn's up |
| 06:41.07 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 06:41.12 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, kk, but if it were me, I would do it in a pm. but you are not me (luckely) |
| 06:41.16 | Wobin_ | ~hug CIA-13 |
| 06:41.18 | purl | ACTION hugs CIA-13 |
| 06:41.18 | Godless | "Chuck Norris hates Lilo" |
| 06:41.20 | Godless | and include that digg url |
| 06:41.29 | [MoonWolf] | Godless, you dont start meme's, meme start themselves. |
| 06:41.39 | Wobin_ | Hehe, I've PM'd Silver to remove AA =) |
| 06:41.39 | Tekkub | yea well I'm trying to explain to the users, if they read it, not the admins |
| 06:41.46 | Godless | .... gonads and strife..... |
| 06:41.49 | [MoonWolf] | okay |
| 06:42.11 | Tekkub | I don't expect any evolution in Cursed's policies, as I've never seen ANYTHING about the site change in over a year |
| 06:42.55 | [MoonWolf] | the only thing I am afraid of is that then ends up in cairenn's lap. |
| 06:43.30 | weab | i dont think most average users even look at curse forums |
| 06:43.57 | weab | hell, i'm not even an average user and i've never looked at curse forums |
| 06:44.18 | ckknight | yea, you should let the thread die, so it doesn't become a burden on WoWI |
| 06:45.26 | Tem | http://i3.tinypic.com/wlr4uc.png |
| 06:45.29 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, another things, have you looked at the screenie in the mendy thread ? |
| 06:45.35 | Tem | ckknight: see the ss I just posted |
| 06:45.58 | Tekkub | mendy? yea saw it :) |
| 06:46.09 | ckknight | I'll look into it |
| 06:46.15 | Tekkub | bout time, that's always been there since I mad the damn tradeskill module for you |
| 06:46.30 | [MoonWolf] | sorry, I did it, pretty efficient too. |
| 06:47.07 | Tem | ckknight: oh, it *does* change my cursor, but I didn't notice >< |
| 06:47.18 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:47.25 | [MoonWolf] | I have that a lot too. |
| 06:47.50 | [MoonWolf] | I am more awere of the cursor of something that moves on the sceen as I move my mouse then as an actual picture. |
| 06:48.06 | [MoonWolf] | s/ere/are/ |
| 06:48.10 | Tem | ckknight: well the problem is that if you go to the bottom right corner, the cursor is off the screen |
| 06:48.29 | ckknight | I know |
| 06:48.32 | weab | or the right at all |
| 06:48.36 | ckknight | can you think of a better solution? |
| 06:48.45 | Tem | I'm trying |
| 06:48.50 | Tem | but I sorta suck at guis |
| 06:49.01 | weab | you need some <--> arrows cursor |
| 06:49.11 | [MoonWolf] | and that is why, tem does acegui. cause he sucks at them. |
| 06:49.25 | Tem | [MoonWolf]: that's not what I meant |
| 06:49.30 | ckknight | woot, fixed the dropdown bug |
| 06:49.33 | [MoonWolf] | I know. |
| 06:49.34 | ckknight | weab, I'm not sure it's possible |
| 06:49.38 | [MoonWolf] | but its funny to say anyway. |
| 06:49.43 | Tem | yes, yes it is |
| 06:49.54 | Tem | I suck a designing interfaces that are intuitive to the user |
| 06:50.09 | weab | and maybe little minimalistic yet recognizable verticle handlebar type things |
| 06:50.15 | [MoonWolf] | you and me both tem. |
| 06:50.22 | [MoonWolf] | my interface consists of slash commands. |
| 06:50.29 | Tem | I think the cursor thing is cool, but the cursor choice is not so hot |
| 06:50.37 | ckknight | I know |
| 06:50.44 | ckknight | there are only 8 cursors to go with |
| 06:50.46 | Tem | now, I don't think there is a better one available though |
| 06:51.01 | Tem | so... maybe that's something we should ask for... |
| 06:51.04 | ckknight | normal, spell, attack, bag |
| 06:51.10 | ckknight | then 4 errors for those |
| 06:51.17 | Tem | right |
| 06:51.23 | ckknight | I use attack_error |
| 06:51.46 | Tem | what's spell_error look like? |
| 06:51.50 | Wobin_ | Tekkub: I'm getting an error on ModMenu... Core.lua:198 Attempt to index a nil value |
| 06:51.53 | [MoonWolf] | what about the repair icon ? |
| 06:52.03 | Tem | same issue really |
| 06:52.07 | Wobin_ | Tekkub: On trying to access the emote menus |
| 06:52.09 | weab | how about the glowy hand? |
| 06:52.15 | Tem | still, same problem |
| 06:52.19 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1078 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: |
| 06:52.19 | CIA-13 | DewdropLib - fixed menu repositioning issues. |
| 06:52.19 | CIA-13 | Made slider look better (thanks to Tem) |
| 06:52.24 | weab | ok, new idea |
| 06:52.35 | Tem | it's a cursor that people have been associating with something else for more than a year |
| 06:52.37 | weab | well |
| 06:52.40 | weab | nm that's not so good |
| 06:52.41 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:52.47 | ckknight | so, issues. |
| 06:52.52 | Tem | aye |
| 06:53.12 | Tem | Ideal solution: Ask for and get a SetCursor(file) |
| 06:53.29 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1079 10FuBar_RestFu/ (FuBar_RestFu.toc README.txt RestFu.lua): FuBar_RestFu - fixed svn:keywords |
| 06:53.46 | Tem | Other solutions: "handlebars", ? |
| 06:53.51 | weab | i'd probably either have it detach and not take the entire width of the screen |
| 06:54.01 | Tekkub | I thought I'd nixed EM support altogether when I de-titaned it |
| 06:54.16 | Tekkub | I'll look later, *STILL* typing response |
| 06:54.32 | Tem | Tekkub: don't make a rowne post |
| 06:54.37 | weab | or have an option in its dropdown to resize |
| 06:54.50 | Tem | oh, there it is |
| 06:54.53 | [MoonWolf] | rowne was a nice person, but we dont need another one. |
| 06:55.04 | Tekkub | Tem... uhm... I don't know if I am or not |
| 06:55.17 | Tem | Make the resizability non-default |
| 06:55.20 | Tekkub | understand, my father was an artist and I do consider coding an art |
| 06:55.31 | Tekkub | he defended his art, I'll defend mine :) |
| 06:55.35 | [MoonWolf] | dont we all do in one form or another. |
| 06:55.53 | Tem | Tekkub: so does the WIPO Copyright Treaty |
| 06:56.00 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 06:56.27 | Tekkub | yea well, I'm making me points, having my say, backing up my copyright rights, and then asking them to pull my mods |
| 06:56.58 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1080 10FuBar_DebugFu/ (. DebugFu.lua FuBar_DebugFu.toc README.txt icon.tga): FuBar_DebugFu - Initial commit |
| 06:57.03 | hyperChipmunk | k, um |
| 06:57.07 | [MoonWolf] | as long as you dont make it a you vs them . ace vs comsos, wowi vs curse thing. |
| 06:57.19 | hyperChipmunk | somebody summarize the last 15 mins for me? |
| 06:57.25 | hyperChipmunk | I was busy educating the frenchmen |
| 06:57.39 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, curse is evil, they're french pirates and commies |
| 06:57.42 | ckknight | that's about it |
| 06:57.44 | ckknight | and let the thread die |
| 06:57.47 | weab | the main issue is the admin's disrespect |
| 06:57.49 | weab | as far as i can see |
| 06:57.58 | ckknight | yea, there's that |
| 06:58.02 | Tem | ckknight: you could make the default state "resize locked" with an option to "unlock" the resizability. When in "resize unlocked" mode a panel has obvious-ish handles that indicate where to grab to resize the panel |
| 06:58.25 | hyperChipmunk | well, hopefulyl I explained it in a way they could understand |
| 06:58.26 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 06:58.37 | [MoonWolf] | bright greeen, handles with grab me in purple text above them! |
| 06:59.05 | ckknight | maybe on hovering, I could make it turn green? |
| 06:59.08 | ckknight | or something? |
| 06:59.22 | Tem | [MoonWolf]: that doesn't fall under the "ish" qualifier I stated |
| 06:59.25 | weab | i know exactly what you can turn it into |
| 06:59.25 | [MoonWolf] | that was more of a silly statment then a suggestion. |
| 06:59.31 | weab | an image of boobies! |
| 06:59.36 | haste | shit realm! |
| 06:59.36 | weab | who can resist grabbing |
| 06:59.39 | haste | my server is fubar again :( |
| 06:59.43 | haste | third day now |
| 06:59.49 | ckknight | I can't change the cursor |
| 06:59.52 | [MoonWolf] | wasnt you guild moving ? |
| 06:59.53 | ckknight | lol, weab |
| 07:00.01 | Tem | ckknight: did you see the screenshot I posted showing what happened to my panels when I was playing with the new panel? |
| 07:00.05 | ckknight | yes |
| 07:00.11 | ckknight | I said I'd look into it |
| 07:00.12 | haste | [MoonWolf]: yeah, but the next official move is in two weeks |
| 07:00.21 | [MoonWolf] | :( |
| 07:00.22 | Tem | ckknight: I missed it. The channel was scrolling kinda fast at the time |
| 07:00.32 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, check out DebugFu |
| 07:02.06 | Tem | mmmmm |
| 07:02.11 | Tem | new mechanics for crit bonuses |
| 07:02.18 | ckknight | crap, you need the new FuBar, gonna commit that |
| 07:02.51 | hyperChipmunk | actually, I was checking out going to bed =P |
| 07:02.52 | [MoonWolf] | what |
| 07:03.00 | [MoonWolf] | tell me about those mechanics.... |
| 07:03.03 | [MoonWolf] | links |
| 07:03.11 | [MoonWolf] | ME NEEDS TO KNOW NOOOOOOOOOOOOOW |
| 07:03.22 | [MoonWolf] | (please) |
| 07:03.56 | hyperChipmunk | [MoonWolf]: hush up and go work on xraid until we tell you that you can stop |
| 07:04.24 | Neronix`sleep | hyperChipmunk: You're thinking of Moonsorrow there... :P |
| 07:04.34 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 07:04.36 | [MoonWolf] | Neronix`sleep, and he knows it. |
| 07:04.43 | Neronix`sleep | ah >.< |
| 07:04.55 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1081 10FuBar/ (7 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 07:04.55 | CIA-13 | FuBar - |
| 07:04.55 | CIA-13 | Can now drag and drop panels from top of the screen to the bottom, and vice versa. |
| 07:04.55 | CIA-13 | Better profiling (see DebugFu) |
| 07:04.55 | CIA-13 | API Change: |
| 07:04.56 | CIA-13 | changed self.canHideText to self.cannotHideText |
| 07:04.58 | CIA-13 | changed self.showOnRight to self.defaultPosition |
| 07:05.13 | Neronix`sleep | ok, the whole curse fisaco's gone out of hand, but they at least deleted Lexan like I asked them to :P |
| 07:05.28 | Neronix`sleep | anyways, bye for now |
| 07:05.28 | Tekkub | okey everyone |
| 07:05.33 | Tekkub | go make some popcorn |
| 07:05.37 | Tekkub | get a soda |
| 07:05.41 | Wobin_ | hyperChipmunk: Darkj is apparantly australian according to his 'flag' |
| 07:05.42 | Tekkub | maybe a good blanket |
| 07:05.47 | Tekkub | cuddle up and read |
| 07:05.48 | Tekkub | http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?p=23435&posted=1#post23435 |
| 07:05.50 | [MoonWolf] | is an apple and a cup of tea good too ? |
| 07:05.52 | weab | the entire issue with this post |
| 07:05.53 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 07:06.01 | [MoonWolf] | hey nice avatar. |
| 07:06.09 | hyperChipmunk | whatever; the server is hosted in europe |
| 07:06.12 | Tekkub | and if longwidedness is a "rowne post" I'm sorry in advance |
| 07:06.12 | weab | is net's decision to fuel a fire |
| 07:06.16 | weab | instead of removing the post |
| 07:06.23 | Tekkub | *longwindedness |
| 07:06.35 | ckknight | Australia, US, and EU all have very similar copyright laws |
| 07:08.12 | weab | thats quite a novel Tekkub |
| 07:08.20 | Tekkub | yea, sory |
| 07:08.41 | weab | are you going to get it formally published with a big copyright notice on it? |
| 07:08.59 | Tekkub | like I said, I wanted to give them damn good reasons why a) I wanted my mods pulled and b) why they have no right to act the way they did/are at authors |
| 07:09.16 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, thats a pretty nice post. |
| 07:09.18 | Tekkub | nah I dispise copyrights |
| 07:09.31 | Tekkub | but I'll use them to my advantage if I have to |
| 07:09.51 | ckknight | I'm very much pro-copyright |
| 07:09.55 | hyperChipmunk | aw, tek |
| 07:10.04 | hyperChipmunk | weab: rofl |
| 07:10.33 | Tekkub | I'm all for copyrights for smalltime artists, but I don't think the system works for them in the end |
| 07:10.55 | Tekkub | it's one of those "it was a good idea, until someone found a way to exploit it to make them money" |
| 07:10.57 | hyperChipmunk | that doesn't mean smalltime artists shouldn't take advantage where they can |
| 07:11.10 | Tekkub | *points at the RIAA/MPAA" |
| 07:11.23 | hyperChipmunk | under the original spirit of the process, that's what they ought to be doing |
| 07:11.46 | hyperChipmunk | and i agree |
| 07:11.50 | hyperChipmunk | that's an excellent post |
| 07:12.00 | Tekkub | aw shit, I said cursed instead of Curse at least once... |
| 07:12.12 | Tekkub | but I'm not removing it *grin* |
| 07:12.13 | hyperChipmunk | it did get across the point that we're supporting a comrade |
| 07:12.29 | hyperChipmunk | rather than just being dicks about our mods |
| 07:12.41 | hyperChipmunk | well |
| 07:12.48 | hyperChipmunk | except in boss's case |
| 07:13.06 | hyperChipmunk | since he didn't have any mods there in the first place; he just posted and told them what mods they'd never see =D |
| 07:14.08 | hyperChipmunk | and you covered the bases on why it isn't acceptable, and the occasions where it might be |
| 07:14.29 | ckknight | I changed my post soon after, cause it was kind of a dick move |
| 07:14.52 | Tekkub | oh I need to make one last comment..... |
| 07:15.57 | hyperChipmunk | did he just say licensing terms with blizzard in the post right above yours? |
| 07:16.00 | hyperChipmunk | *grumble* |
| 07:16.06 | hyperChipmunk | now I'm going to have to post again |
| 07:16.22 | hyperChipmunk | plus, I still don't think this should be an opt-out process |
| 07:16.39 | weab | let it go :P i dont even think copyright is the point of this thread |
| 07:16.56 | hyperChipmunk | he's banking on the fact that they agreed to act after we complained |
| 07:17.05 | hyperChipmunk | and that's not an excuse |
| 07:17.07 | hyperChipmunk | we shouldn't have to |
| 07:17.11 | Tem | oh. my. god |
| 07:17.19 | hyperChipmunk | weab: only because he doesn't fricking understand it |
| 07:17.23 | ckknight | tem, what? |
| 07:17.28 | weab | i don't think you'll make him |
| 07:17.29 | Tem | that fucker is going to try to argue that my addons are not "computer program" |
| 07:17.38 | ckknight | they totally are. |
| 07:17.42 | Tem | ;laksflksd;kdsaf lkhsadof |
| 07:18.03 | weab | you can't win this, seriously |
| 07:18.11 | [MoonWolf] | techinically they ar enot a program |
| 07:18.14 | ckknight | okay, let's say I write a program for Windows |
| 07:18.23 | ckknight | without Windows, my program won't even run! |
| 07:18.31 | ckknight | therefore, it's obviously not a computer program |
| 07:18.42 | [MoonWolf] | they are series of text based statements that adds functionality to an existing third party program. |
| 07:18.55 | hyperChipmunk | don't split hairs |
| 07:19.00 | hyperChipmunk | they're still artistic works |
| 07:19.06 | [MoonWolf] | never denied that. |
| 07:19.18 | weab | he's on your side and you have to tell him to split hairs |
| 07:19.20 | Tekkub | oh |
| 07:19.21 | Tekkub | mah |
| 07:19.22 | Tekkub | gawd |
| 07:19.24 | weab | what do you think they'll do on the other side? :P |
| 07:19.30 | Tekkub | someone get me a glass of milk |
| 07:19.45 | Tekkub | I need to shoot it out my nose and fall on the floor in a laughing fit |
| 07:19.47 | Tekkub | "I think we should get a group discussion going with Blizzard to help stamp out addon piracy." |
| 07:19.55 | weab | rofl |
| 07:20.23 | [MoonWolf] | okay, I am sooooo done with this thread. (twists arm in a flaming gay way) |
| 07:20.40 | weab | oh my god i have to reply to this with a house quote. |
| 07:20.48 | [MoonWolf] | let it die |
| 07:20.53 | [MoonWolf] | damnit, let it die. |
| 07:20.56 | weab | no this is unrelated |
| 07:20.57 | weab | and funny |
| 07:22.19 | weab | what the hell |
| 07:23.00 | weab | wow, i had registered with curse before. i dont recall that |
| 07:23.36 | Tem | so, would it be bad of me to post this? |
| 07:23.48 | Tem | [quote]We didn't ignore his "control of distribution" |
| 07:23.54 | Tem | Yes, you did. By obtaining an update of my addon from a source other than directly from me and distributing it on your site without my express permission violates international copyright law. That is all I am trying to point out. I do not want an apology. I do not even care if you change the polocies of your site, but I want you to know that your actions were [b]illegal[/b]. |
| 07:24.19 | [MoonWolf] | only if you really want a flame war to start |
| 07:24.28 | weab | seriouslly, i wouldn't keep going with the copyright stuff |
| 07:24.33 | Tem | s/violates/you violated/ |
| 07:24.36 | weab | it won't end with either of you agreeing |
| 07:24.43 | [MoonWolf] | this guy is to blinded by stupidity to stop for any reason. |
| 07:24.48 | ckknight | he does have a point with compilations |
| 07:24.53 | [MoonWolf] | true |
| 07:24.55 | Tem | no, fucking doesn't |
| 07:25.07 | Tem | oh, compilations? |
| 07:25.11 | Tem | I didn't read that part yet |
| 07:25.17 | ckknight | frankly, I wouldn't have a problem with someone putting FuBar into a compilation |
| 07:25.36 | [MoonWolf] | ckknight, if you did, you should start sending cease and desists to people. |
| 07:25.43 | ckknight | lol |
| 07:25.45 | [MoonWolf] | because they already are. |
| 07:25.55 | ckknight | yea, I've worked with Mazzlefizz on hers |
| 07:26.11 | weab | there |
| 07:26.19 | weab | i made my contribution to the thread |
| 07:26.22 | ckknight | added some API stuff so she could set settings |
| 07:26.36 | weab | interject some humor into that mess |
| 07:26.45 | ckknight | lol |
| 07:27.04 | Tem | I'm not posting there anymore unless someone directly attacks what I have already said |
| 07:27.15 | Tekkub | well it all boils down to one thing really |
| 07:27.25 | [MoonWolf] | curse needs to put a stop to darjk |
| 07:27.38 | Tekkub | they make money off other people's copyrighted works, they should understand how copyrights work :P |
| 07:27.56 | Tekkub | compilations don't really make money unless they're hosting on their own site |
| 07:28.11 | Tekkub | but gee that's who, CT and Discord? their comps are all their own works |
| 07:28.33 | [MoonWolf] | add cosmos to that list. |
| 07:28.38 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:28.44 | [MoonWolf] | although making money isnt really what either are doing |
| 07:28.47 | Tekkub | oh yea... but cosmos is special |
| 07:28.59 | weab | "special" |
| 07:28.59 | [MoonWolf] | more getting money to continue hosting. |
| 07:29.17 | weab | doesn't nurfed contain mods that arent their own |
| 07:29.23 | haste | it does |
| 07:29.26 | Tekkub | cosmos in like those morons that paint a square, and some othe moron thinks it's amazing, and suddenly they're a million dollar artist |
| 07:29.28 | Tekkub | :) |
| 07:29.28 | haste | but it doesn't have any ads ;O |
| 07:29.37 | weab | ah |
| 07:29.42 | weab | i have adblock |
| 07:29.47 | weab | so i dont have any clue which have ads and which dont! |
| 07:29.58 | ckknight | lol, yea |
| 07:29.59 | [MoonWolf] | my brain has adblock |
| 07:30.04 | Tem | make no mistake, CG is making money off the traffic to the site |
| 07:30.07 | haste | okey, they have ads by google |
| 07:30.08 | ckknight | I still disagree with curse's use of gold ads |
| 07:30.12 | Tekkub | there's artists by talent and artists by popularity, I tend to put Cosmos in the popularity group before talent on most respects :) |
| 07:30.23 | ckknight | yea... |
| 07:30.30 | [MoonWolf] | dont discredit them to much |
| 07:30.33 | Tem | why do you think the site slows to a crawl so often? |
| 07:30.37 | [MoonWolf] | anduin and some other do know what they are doing. |
| 07:30.47 | Tekkub | some :) |
| 07:30.52 | Tem | *some* |
| 07:30.53 | [MoonWolf] | tem, patch day does that for all of the major sites. |
| 07:30.57 | Tekkub | I don't feel it's an overwhelming majority tho |
| 07:31.05 | [MoonWolf] | true. |
| 07:31.09 | Tem | [MoonWolf]: not talking about patch days |
| 07:31.12 | Tekkub | Moon: curse has "patchday" symptoms randomly |
| 07:31.18 | [MoonWolf] | yeah |
| 07:31.22 | Tekkub | that's why I left them nearly a year ago |
| 07:31.27 | Tem | my theory is they haven't upgraded their hardware |
| 07:31.31 | [MoonWolf] | I had to wait 2 weeks before I could atually update mendeleev last time |
| 07:31.37 | Tekkub | but but but... they said they did! |
| 07:31.40 | [MoonWolf] | I could not get the submit to stop timing out. |
| 07:31.55 | Tem | not worth the effort |
| 07:31.58 | Tekkub | we all know they blow their ad revenue on cheap grog and troll hookers |
| 07:32.20 | Tem | ckknight: change your analogy to "mod" -> "application" |
| 07:32.29 | ckknight | okay |
| 07:32.30 | [MoonWolf] | when in heat, and enraged a troll female can mate up to 40 times a night, be ye prepared ? |
| 07:32.33 | Tekkub | and I'm sure the shamans all pimped out their totems |
| 07:32.33 | Tem | it avoids using the word "program" again |
| 07:33.16 | Tem | I think they use the extra revenue to buy gold from the ads on their site |
| 07:33.18 | ckknight | you're right |
| 07:33.30 | weab | tem: rofl |
| 07:33.43 | ckknight | lol, [MoonWolf] |
| 07:33.43 | weab | what a brilliant circle |
| 07:33.48 | [MoonWolf] | cant they set up a system where every view gets them 10 copper in game. |
| 07:33.54 | [MoonWolf] | ckknight, actual troll female qoute. |
| 07:33.58 | Tem | [MoonWolf]: probably |
| 07:36.21 | Tem | haha |
| 07:44.11 | *** join/#wowace snurre (n=snurre@AVelizy-153-1-44-2.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:45.58 | [MoonWolf] | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/04/27/chav_sweets/ |
| 07:46.22 | hyperChipmunk | k, make sure you have popcorn left |
| 07:46.39 | weab | hyperChipmunk: i'm on my second bag |
| 07:46.40 | hyperChipmunk | oh darn, did someone invoke the gold ads before my post? |
| 07:49.24 | [MoonWolf] | made a post too. |
| 07:49.37 | [MoonWolf] | and its sensible |
| 07:50.22 | weab | i basically agree with darjk's most recent |
| 07:51.01 | Tem | I think something a lot of people have missed is that I never asked for an appology |
| 07:51.15 | [MoonWolf] | Did not miss that. |
| 07:51.20 | weab | i noticed that |
| 07:51.23 | weab | who was it that did |
| 07:51.28 | weab | in the 3rd post |
| 07:51.43 | [MoonWolf] | you only asked for it to stop and the submission to be removed and they were. |
| 07:51.44 | ckknight | "using "copyright" as an excuse for an apology isn't going to fly with me" |
| 07:51.45 | weab | kriin, who's that? |
| 07:51.47 | Tem | It was noted in the third post that no apology was given when there appeared to be a need |
| 07:51.49 | [MoonWolf] | then others started discussion. |
| 07:52.12 | weab | the 3rd post was flame bait and unnecessary |
| 07:52.21 | weab | and flame indeed insued |
| 07:52.27 | weab | however, admins should be above that |
| 07:52.34 | weab | which is the sad part of this post |
| 07:52.38 | weab | instead of ignoring it they fed it |
| 07:52.48 | weab | which exactly what a good admin shouldnt do |
| 07:52.52 | hyperChipmunk | copyright isn't an excuse |
| 07:52.56 | hyperChipmunk | it's a law |
| 07:53.37 | ckknight | just so everyone knows, if you create code, whether it be based on an API of your own or not, that code is copyrighted to you in absoluteness |
| 07:53.38 | hyperChipmunk | anyway, more fuel to the fire |
| 07:53.39 | [MoonWolf] | actually, the only person I see that is really making problems on the cures part is darkj |
| 07:53.50 | [MoonWolf] | and that is exactly why I made that post. |
| 07:53.54 | ckknight | it is then up to the API maker to decide whether you can use it or not |
| 07:53.57 | hyperChipmunk | Net, too, iirc |
| 07:54.03 | ckknight | but the API maker will _never ever_ own your code |
| 07:54.07 | weab | net was the original problem imo |
| 07:54.14 | [MoonWolf] | silver even apologized for darkjs actions. |
| 07:54.22 | hyperChipmunk | silver seems cool |
| 07:54.26 | [MoonWolf] | but it seems that darkj did not get the message |
| 07:54.27 | ckknight | yea, Silver's post seemed good |
| 07:54.43 | hyperChipmunk | except she supports these people moderating the site |
| 07:54.49 | hyperChipmunk | that's a fatal screwup |
| 07:55.46 | [MoonWolf] | now if darkj or any other curse admin replies that darjk does indeed talk for curse in general... that would be pretty bad. |
| 07:56.05 | hyperChipmunk | I think we're nearing full-on degeneration here |
| 07:56.41 | ckknight | agreed, [MoonWolf] |
| 07:56.49 | hyperChipmunk | if he latches onto the offhand comment I made about the gold ads--which I have a sinking feeling he just might--we'll have devolved into sheer stupidity |
| 07:56.58 | hyperChipmunk | well |
| 07:57.01 | hyperChipmunk | we're already kinda there |
| 07:57.17 | hyperChipmunk | but that would bottom out the thread |
| 07:57.20 | weab | that thread has been sinking since page 1 |
| 07:57.30 | weab | it's probably about belly deep right now in stupidity |
| 07:57.35 | CIA-13 | 03shyva * r1082 10BigWigs/AQ40/ (8 files): BigWigs: Fixed the things that were fixed in Shyva's branch, and added some stuff =) |
| 07:57.35 | weab | it still has a ways to sink! |
| 07:57.47 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 07:57.56 | hyperChipmunk | weab: always the optimist |
| 07:57.57 | Tem | I haven't posted "Fuck you" yet |
| 07:58.05 | Tem | the thread *can* go lower |
| 07:58.14 | [MoonWolf] | please dont do anything stupid tem. |
| 07:58.23 | weab | i'm a half full kind of guy. |
| 07:58.34 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 07:58.35 | [MoonWolf] | having a curse moderator acting stupid doesnt mean we have to go and make the ace moderators look like idionts. |
| 07:58.38 | Tem | granted I was *very* tempted after NeT made that rediculous comment |
| 07:58.44 | [MoonWolf] | idiots* |
| 07:58.49 | hyperChipmunk | yea, his stupid is better than anything you can do anyways |
| 07:58.54 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 07:59.11 | [MoonWolf] | time for me to get something liquid and drink it outside in the nice sun. |
| 07:59.12 | Wobin_ | Hehe never argue with morons, they tend to drag you down to their level =P |
| 07:59.14 | Tem | [MoonWolf]: I didn't say I would. I was merely giving an example of how the thread could lower |
| 07:59.17 | [MoonWolf] | kk |
| 07:59.39 | hyperChipmunk | notice SilverShadow is american too |
| 08:01.25 | hyperChipmunk | clearly a trend |
| 08:01.44 | hyperChipmunk | i.e. Australians are stupid |
| 08:01.54 | hyperChipmunk | Americans are smart |
| 08:02.51 | Tem | .< |
| 08:02.53 | Tem | >< |
| 08:02.53 | Godless | and japanese are even smarter. |
| 08:03.05 | hyperChipmunk | especially that wobin guy |
| 08:03.06 | Tem | I keep reading your name as "Goldless" |
| 08:03.08 | hyperChipmunk | what a maroon |
| 08:03.32 | hyperChipmunk | heh, maybe he should work as a curse moderator then |
| 08:04.02 | Tem | Anyway, I think the thread has finaly drawn to a finish |
| 08:04.18 | Tem | unless Silver decides to show up tomorrow to argue that addons aren't copyrighted material |
| 08:04.20 | hyperChipmunk | they probably put a muzzle on him |
| 08:04.23 | weab | i could always dig into the mods and say they suck |
| 08:04.27 | weab | that'd kick the anthill |
| 08:04.47 | Tem | if you tell me my mods suck, you will have me to deal with |
| 08:04.52 | hyperChipmunk | or moonwolf ....rofl weab...or moonwolf's comment left him in a place where he couldn't answer unless someone else did |
| 08:04.55 | weab | nono |
| 08:04.56 | Tem | I'm tired and a bit cranky |
| 08:04.57 | weab | not addons |
| 08:04.59 | Wobin_ | I dunno, all I can see is hyperChipmunk going "Eeee" like that flash =P |
| 08:05.03 | Tem | so... I don't suggest it |
| 08:05.03 | weab | moderators |
| 08:05.06 | Tem | oh |
| 08:05.07 | Tem | lol |
| 08:05.08 | weab | admins |
| 08:05.08 | hyperChipmunk | >8x |
| 08:05.17 | Tem | please don't |
| 08:05.21 | Tem | I want the thread to die |
| 08:05.22 | hyperChipmunk | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 08:06.05 | hyperChipmunk | omgiwaswritingthisflameoncurseandtheyreidiotsthereandimlikeweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 08:06.05 | Tem | oh wow, lol in all the drama I didn't notice a new comment on Catalyst |
| 08:06.14 | weab | although i do believe that really is what the entire problem is |
| 08:06.25 | Wobin_ | hyperChipmunk: hehe irt Djark not answering: Unless he wants to admit he was being a fool =P |
| 08:06.43 | hyperChipmunk | oh he answered |
| 08:06.45 | Tem | "Can someone tell me how this mod works exactly ? |
| 08:06.45 | Tem | " |
| 08:06.46 | Godless | omgiwasworkingatnintendoandIgottonamethisconsoleandInameditwiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 08:06.54 | Tem | I'm so tempted to reply with "read the code" |
| 08:06.56 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 08:06.56 | ckknight | lol |
| 08:07.03 | Godless | Tem: no! |
| 08:07.06 | Godless | "Use the source, Luke!" |
| 08:07.12 | Tekkub | *burp* |
| 08:07.15 | Tem | hah |
| 08:07.32 | Tekkub | so anywho, aside from boycotting curse, what's up Aceholes? |
| 08:07.42 | Tekkub | or rather, what's up your Acehole? |
| 08:07.51 | hyperChipmunk | gonads, strife, the usual |
| 08:08.12 | hyperChipmunk | um, no fair changing the question after I've already typed an answer |
| 08:08.15 | Godless | gonads and strife, gonads and strife, gonads and strive |
| 08:08.22 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 08:08.28 | Tekkub | "Capital One... what's in your acehole?" |
| 08:08.35 | Wobin_ | The truth is revealed =P |
| 08:08.38 | Godless | GONADS IN THE LIGHTNING, THE LIGHTNING, AND THE RAIN |
| 08:08.51 | Tem | my personal favorite is when someone asks a question on a forum that has already ben answered in another thread *on the front page* |
| 08:08.56 | Wobin_ | That should be Ace's new slogan "What's in your Acehole?" |
| 08:08.59 | hyperChipmunk | omg |
| 08:08.59 | Tekkub | who's the antidivinity again? |
| 08:09.08 | Tem | "Use the search, Luke, or just read the front page" |
| 08:09.09 | Godless | Tekkub: agent smith |
| 08:09.20 | Tekkub | *blank stare* |
| 08:09.20 | Godless | rtffp. |
| 08:09.28 | hyperChipmunk | Godless: i was just taking a drink, too; you timed that two seconds later and there would have been a mess |
| 08:09.41 | Godless | hyperChipmunk: weeeeeeee! |
| 08:10.10 | Godless | Tem: we're high on crack! |
| 08:10.12 | Tekkub | you know, I've begun to give heavy considering to posting "I'm not going to dignify this question with a response" in responce to those lern2readtheforumfirst posts |
| 08:10.15 | weab | Tem: wii are smoking wiid |
| 08:10.17 | hyperChipmunk | lol 'how exactly does this addon work' |
| 08:10.18 | Godless | (No, Pacman, drugs are bad!) |
| 08:10.29 | hyperChipmunk | Tem: just reply with the entire source |
| 08:10.36 | Tem | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 08:10.39 | Godless | HAHAHAHAHAHAH |
| 08:10.39 | Tem | that's an AWESOME udea |
| 08:10.47 | Tem | s/u/i/ |
| 08:11.12 | Tekkub | wait wait wait... better ide, post a simple link to the answer... and the only text of the link is [url=<whatever].[/url] |
| 08:11.25 | Tekkub | it the smallest font |
| 08:11.30 | Godless | no |
| 08:11.34 | Godless | WHOLE SOURCE |
| 08:11.39 | Godless | DO EET! DO EET NAWH! |
| 08:11.40 | Tem | I'll post a link to the source |
| 08:11.54 | Tem | on the svn |
| 08:11.54 | Tekkub | whole sorce in tiny or huge font! |
| 08:11.59 | Tem | hmm |
| 08:12.03 | Tekkub | in the same color as the bacground |
| 08:12.05 | Tem | I vote tiny |
| 08:12.08 | Tekkub | with blink tags! |
| 08:12.11 | Tem | yes! |
| 08:12.14 | hyperChipmunk | oh lord |
| 08:12.23 | Tekkub | everything needs blink tags |
| 08:12.32 | weab | blink, now you're just downright cruel |
| 08:12.37 | hyperChipmunk | is the question on curse? |
| 08:12.46 | Tem | no |
| 08:12.55 | Tem | I don't have any addons there anymore |
| 08:13.13 | hyperChipmunk | oh, cuz I'd have said it was appropriate for the rest of their 'decor' to have the whole thing blink |
| 08:13.14 | Tekkub | I was simple talking in general, my policy for handling posts where I want to tell the user to sod off |
| 08:13.37 | Godless | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/Anubis169/mordor.jpg |
| 08:13.39 | hyperChipmunk | anyway, you ought to respond to that one with your complete source |
| 08:13.40 | Tekkub | thank you, please kindly go sod yourself! |
| 08:13.41 | hyperChipmunk | and blinktags |
| 08:13.55 | Tem | curses! |
| 08:14.02 | Tem | the smallest font isn't small enough |
| 08:14.04 | Tekkub | or maybe a simple "u giev soj?" |
| 08:14.07 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 08:14.14 | Tem | and they don't have blink tags |
| 08:14.18 | weab | there's always a smaller font |
| 08:14.28 | Tem | which means I have to post it elsewhere and link it |
| 08:14.39 | Tem | OR |
| 08:14.44 | Tem | post it in HUGE text |
| 08:14.45 | hyperChipmunk | wasn't the whole thing like 60 lines? |
| 08:15.00 | hyperChipmunk | why not paste it in normal text? |
| 08:15.17 | hyperChipmunk | and have it basically be exactly the same as if they looked at it in a text editor |
| 08:15.24 | hyperChipmunk | maybe they'll get the correlation |
| 08:15.36 | hyperChipmunk | and leave you alone |
| 08:15.45 | Tekkub | one big huge period-link |
| 08:15.52 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 08:16.08 | Tekkub | [size=36][b][url=whatever].[clasealltags] |
| 08:16.12 | weab | http://www.wobbles.org/pi.html |
| 08:16.18 | hyperChipmunk | dude, it's 85 lines |
| 08:16.24 | hyperChipmunk | just paste it and click submit |
| 08:17.04 | Tem | it's 108 lines now |
| 08:17.07 | weab | that's a lot more impressive when its not .1em |
| 08:17.19 | hyperChipmunk | mine's only 85 |
| 08:17.21 | [MoonWolf] | okay, so now that darkj has been disasociated from curse gaming in this read. |
| 08:17.24 | [MoonWolf] | thread* |
| 08:17.25 | hyperChipmunk | clearly it's not as good |
| 08:17.29 | hyperChipmunk | yea, [MoonWolf] |
| 08:17.34 | Tem | yeah, um. that totatly just froze firefox |
| 08:17.47 | hyperChipmunk | I closed it before it could |
| 08:17.50 | Tem | oh good, ff stopped it |
| 08:17.50 | weab | rofl it did? |
| 08:17.59 | weab | ff doesnt show it right anyway |
| 08:18.01 | weab | not sure why |
| 08:18.07 | hyperChipmunk | showed fine for me |
| 08:18.08 | Tem | I rendered ff useless for a good 15 seconds |
| 08:18.11 | weab | i can't seem to make it break-work |
| 08:18.14 | Tem | s/I r/It r/ |
| 08:18.18 | weab | s/work/word/ |
| 08:18.25 | weab | well, not more than once |
| 08:18.44 | hyperChipmunk | big ol' huge pi in flyspeck-2 font |
| 08:18.46 | weab | oddly it works fine in ie |
| 08:18.58 | hyperChipmunk | what was it supposed to look like? =P |
| 08:19.35 | weab | it's pi! |
| 08:20.05 | ckknight | Opera loaded it instantly |
| 08:20.09 | ckknight | unsurprisingly |
| 08:20.31 | hyperChipmunk | ff loaded it fine too; just kept requesting data from the site |
| 08:20.34 | weab | safari shows it correctly also |
| 08:20.42 | weab | ff doesn't |
| 08:20.43 | hyperChipmunk | I didn't know how long it was going to go on |
| 08:21.15 | hyperChipmunk | so I killed it before it could do any damage =P |
| 08:21.31 | weab | anyway, it's a little under a million decimal places of pi. i was mostly using it as an example of small text :P |
| 08:22.18 | weab | er sorry 100,000 i think |
| 08:22.20 | hyperChipmunk | Tem: link us your 'reply' when you finish it |
| 08:22.32 | Tem | I'm not going to reply |
| 08:22.33 | Wobin_ | y'know... I think Cairenn started this whole thing when she said 'Nice apology' =P |
| 08:22.36 | Tem | at least not now |
| 08:22.52 | Tem | Wobin_: I think you are partially right. |
| 08:22.53 | ckknight | lol, yea |
| 08:23.01 | hyperChipmunk | [staharaj@hyperion]$ wc -m pi.html ~ |
| 08:23.04 | weab | that was Cairenn|sleep? lol |
| 08:23.04 | hyperChipmunk | 97682 pi.html |
| 08:23.09 | Tem | I think the discussion would have happened wether or not she said that |
| 08:23.27 | Tem | had she not posted that, I would have said something different |
| 08:23.28 | Wobin_ | She ghostposted =) |
| 08:23.49 | hyperChipmunk | so just 97682 digits |
| 08:23.59 | weab | quite a disappointment |
| 08:24.07 | weab | i'll have to make a bigger one sometime |
| 08:24.36 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 08:24.42 | [MoonWolf] | weab, oh yeah 97682 digits of pi is not nearly enough |
| 08:25.00 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I require 97683 minimum for any real work |
| 08:25.14 | ckknight | who needs it that precise anyway? perfect circles are a figment of our collective imagination |
| 08:25.17 | weab | alas these are the inadequacies i work with |
| 08:25.51 | [MoonWolf] | ckknight, my imaginations has a very high AA setting. |
| 08:26.00 | [MoonWolf] | imagination* |
| 08:26.23 | ckknight | AA? |
| 08:26.32 | hyperChipmunk | antialiasing |
| 08:26.32 | weab | anti-aliasing :P |
| 08:26.33 | [MoonWolf] | AntiAliasing. |
| 08:26.59 | weab | and you ruined his joke |
| 08:26.59 | Godless | antianalling. |
| 08:26.59 | weab | nice job |
| 08:27.11 | hyperChipmunk | though i think ckknight's 'perfect' was in contrast to an oblong one |
| 08:27.44 | hyperChipmunk | so it's understandable that he'd miss the totally orthogonal reference |
| 08:27.50 | ckknight | or one with infinite sides, really |
| 08:28.18 | hyperChipmunk | ok, not-quite-orthogonal =) |
| 08:29.11 | hyperChipmunk | k, so it's like 04:30 and I totally was going to be sleeping 2 hours ago |
| 08:29.34 | hyperChipmunk | nick-changes should have messages like /leave and /quit |
| 08:29.43 | hyperChipmunk | for people who do neither of the latter |
| 08:29.49 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1083 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - added optimizations, debugging code. |
| 08:30.48 | Wobin_ | oh noes unterminated =P |
| 08:30.49 | sedatedChipmunk | s/!(/!)/ |
| 08:30.57 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 08:31.11 | [MoonWolf] | purl doesnt handle actions. |
| 08:31.20 | Wobin_ | Also under a different nick =) |
| 08:31.25 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, I was curious what he'd do =) |
| 08:31.27 | sedatedChipmunk | oh, good point =) |
| 08:31.38 | sedatedChipmunk | s/test/wobin sucks/ |
| 08:31.47 | Wobin_ | ha |
| 08:31.54 | Wobin_ | See, purl doesn't think so =P |
| 08:31.57 | sedatedChipmunk | apparently wobin doesn't suck |
| 08:32.24 | sedatedChipmunk | hard to tell around here sometimes |
| 08:32.28 | Wobin_ | yes |
| 08:32.56 | Wobin_ | But that's mostly Tekkub's influence |
| 08:33.13 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 08:33.15 | Tekkub | oro? |
| 08:33.23 | Tekkub | I sucked who now? |
| 08:33.30 | Wobin_ | Just sucking in general |
| 08:33.33 | sedatedChipmunk | exactly |
| 08:33.50 | weab | god just blurt it out. |
| 08:33.56 | weab | they want to know the details of your blowjobs |
| 08:34.04 | weab | obviously they're just too shy |
| 08:34.11 | sedatedChipmunk | weab: seriously |
| 08:34.13 | sedatedChipmunk | don't provoke him |
| 08:34.20 | sedatedChipmunk | he's bad enough as it is |
| 08:34.26 | Wobin_ | He needs no encouragement =P |
| 08:34.32 | Tekkub | I really don't like giving that much, it gets boring and my jaw gets tired |
| 08:34.38 | Tekkub | I rarely get any |
| 08:34.40 | Godless | x_x |
| 08:34.52 | Tekkub | besides, I'm teething again, I don't want anything in there |
| 08:35.06 | sedatedChipmunk | see, this is why I always detach irssi before going to bed |
| 08:35.08 | [MoonWolf] | wisdom teeth ? |
| 08:35.14 | sedatedChipmunk | i just can't trust you guys |
| 08:35.26 | weab | even spicing it up and trying new stuff it gets boring? |
| 08:35.28 | weab | that's sad to know. |
| 08:35.50 | Tekkub | spicing it up? |
| 08:35.54 | Tekkub | I don't like spicy meat |
| 08:36.00 | [MoonWolf] | yeah, peper, some salt etc. |
| 08:36.02 | Tekkub | be they penile or otherwise |
| 08:36.08 | weab | i don't mean that literally of course. |
| 08:36.18 | weab | although maybe some tobasco on the wang would be interesting |
| 08:36.27 | sedatedChipmunk | ~emulate emeril |
| 08:36.28 | purl | BAM! |
| 08:36.31 | Wobin_ | Certainly for the wang-owner |
| 08:36.35 | weab | you know, in the hospitilization kind of interesting |
| 08:36.37 | Tekkub | and no, I kinda just got sick of giving head, I don't enjoy doing it, it tires me out for little pleasure on my end |
| 08:37.19 | weab | i've got another gay friend that was just complaining today he hasnt sucked a cock in 5 days and is going through withdrawal |
| 08:37.28 | Tekkub | I find other stuff more enjoyable and want to do that stuff more often |
| 08:37.33 | [MoonWolf] | I hang around in a channel dedicated to a site with 60% porn as its content |
| 08:37.52 | [MoonWolf] | and somehow this channel has more talk about sex then #4chan. |
| 08:37.52 | sedatedChipmunk | k, take this discussion to that channel then plz? |
| 08:37.55 | weab | everyone's different! |
| 08:38.06 | Tekkub | weab: it's enjoyable (for me) if it's a quickie... but they never are |
| 08:38.21 | Tekkub | I always get the guys that don't get off easily to it, yet want it the most |
| 08:38.23 | Wobin_ | It's when you get into technical details that it seems 'more in your face' as it were =P |
| 08:38.30 | Tekkub | and hours of sucking is not fun |
| 08:38.35 | sedatedChipmunk | ok, stop now |
| 08:38.37 | weab | lol |
| 08:38.42 | Tekkub | what? |
| 08:38.47 | Wobin_ | Tekkub: That's possibly cause they're conditioned to think that way |
| 08:38.55 | Wobin_ | (That the blowjob is really really cool) |
| 08:39.12 | Tekkub | it's okey if i act like a general perv, but you don't like a civil discussion of why I don't enjoy giving head? |
| 08:39.44 | weab | i think the civil discussion scares them more :P |
| 08:39.45 | sedatedChipmunk | this is a programming channel =P |
| 08:39.48 | Tekkub | I think it all boils down to the fact that 90% of the time I give, and I rarely receive |
| 08:40.03 | weab | well that... |
| 08:40.04 | weab | er |
| 08:40.05 | Tekkub | and that kinda bores you of the whole thing |
| 08:40.07 | weab | very very bad pun |
| 08:40.13 | weab | not gonna say that :( |
| 08:40.17 | Tekkub | if it were more a 50/50 split I'd prolly like it more |
| 08:40.21 | weab | that's a shame. there we go |
| 08:40.41 | [MoonWolf] | sedatedChipmunk, its more of a commuity outlet then a programming channel. |
| 08:40.44 | Tekkub | weab: no, I don't receive, I get sick of it and move on to other stuff :) |
| 08:40.55 | Wobin_ | weab: hehe |
| 08:40.59 | sedatedChipmunk | anyway, off to bed; don't start a war with some Franco-Australian alliance while I'm gone |
| 08:40.59 | weab | what about a 69 kind of thing, or is that too cumbersome to work out the logistics? |
| 08:41.01 | Tekkub | The last time I "received"... I honestly can't recall |
| 08:41.18 | Tekkub | the 69 thing never happens either! |
| 08:41.27 | Wobin_ | I think TekHubby should be given a talking to =P |
| 08:41.28 | Tekkub | it's always just like "yea suck me" |
| 08:41.37 | Tekkub | heh, why wob? |
| 08:41.45 | Tekkub | we've never had that much sex anyway |
| 08:42.02 | Wobin_ | The lack of head on his behalf= ) |
| 08:42.03 | Tekkub | hell, now that I'm working he's getting a year's worth of sex out of his system |
| 08:42.29 | Tekkub | he's always got at least one fucked up tooth and no dental plan yet so he's not gotten em pulled |
| 08:42.48 | Tekkub | but yea, I'm not all that into all that anyway :P |
| 08:43.03 | Tekkub | I'd rather lick other parts |
| 08:43.11 | Tekkub | but he won't let me do that either |
| 08:43.15 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 08:43.24 | weab | now that's kinky |
| 08:43.26 | [MoonWolf] | your hubby aint kinky enough. |
| 08:43.48 | Tekkub | no, he's just oversexed, not kinky |
| 08:44.11 | Tekkub | I don't like it as often, but I like it more if it's not just a "stick it in and squirt" job |
| 08:45.36 | Tekkub | okey, I guess I'll be nice and go to bed now |
| 08:45.50 | [MoonWolf] | Anti-virus firms at Infosec say they expect Vista and IE7 to change nothing for the industry. |
| 08:46.07 | Godless | [MoonWolf]: no duh |
| 08:49.33 | Tem | tek, isn't there some kind of "no teasin while he isn't here" rule? |
| 08:50.57 | clad|likeskawk | it's a longterm makingfunof, he'll see it |
| 08:53.19 | Tem | >< |
| 08:53.23 | Tem | oh wow.. lol |
| 08:53.33 | Tem | shaman vs NE rogue farmer |
| 08:53.42 | Tem | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6337294309865849618&q=world+of+warcraft+shaman&pl=true |
| 08:56.35 | [MoonWolf] | brilliant |
| 08:56.38 | [MoonWolf] | what an idiot |
| 08:56.44 | [MoonWolf] | cant even kill a passive shaman. |
| 08:59.13 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:01.50 | Tem | you notice that that rogue hits his eviscerate at like 2 or 3 combo points every time |
| 09:02.34 | Tem | (that's assuming no seal fate or initiative procs) |
| 09:02.55 | Tem | also, never even tries to kick the heals |
| 09:03.08 | Tem | noobsauce rogue |
| 09:03.18 | [MoonWolf] | also he activates adrenaline rush |
| 09:03.26 | Tem | oh wow, I didn't notice that |
| 09:03.30 | Tem | so, um |
| 09:03.35 | Tem | yeah, def no seal fate |
| 09:03.49 | [MoonWolf] | and wastes it standing and doing nothing. |
| 09:03.57 | Tem | lol |
| 09:04.17 | [MoonWolf] | he has the reaction time of a ...eeuh ... something slow |
| 09:04.32 | Tem | damn, I need to rework my talent spec... |
| 09:04.39 | Tem | I'm so spread |
| 09:04.53 | [MoonWolf] | he also activates blade flurry somewhere in the fight.... |
| 09:04.58 | weab | slug? |
| 09:05.00 | weab | turtle? |
| 09:05.05 | [MoonWolf] | slower. |
| 09:05.13 | weab | glacier? |
| 09:05.24 | [MoonWolf] | that would do. |
| 09:05.37 | [MoonWolf] | I could have taken that shaman down easy. |
| 09:05.46 | [MoonWolf] | he did not even kick his heals |
| 09:05.51 | [MoonWolf] | when he could easely have done so. |
| 09:06.03 | weab | oh well come on, the guy obviously thought kick was ez mode |
| 09:06.04 | weab | :P |
| 09:06.24 | [MoonWolf] | he got beat with a shaman using only heals and ligthning shield |
| 09:06.28 | [MoonWolf] | there is no excuse. |
| 09:10.07 | Tem | ok, I have a problem |
| 09:10.17 | Tem | I need to be level 73 to get all the talents I want |
| 09:10.58 | weab | fortunately there is a solution |
| 09:11.07 | weab | wait two expansions |
| 09:11.11 | [MoonWolf] | hehe |
| 09:11.23 | [MoonWolf] | I wonder if I can bribe a gm to give me all the talents available. |
| 09:11.32 | Tem | here's my main issue |
| 09:11.33 | [MoonWolf] | for all my chars |
| 09:11.37 | weab | find the right one and probably. |
| 09:11.38 | [MoonWolf] | at level one |
| 09:11.45 | [MoonWolf] | even if I make new ones. |
| 09:11.48 | Tem | I feel like I really need riposte |
| 09:11.49 | weab | except they'd get fired and you might get banned shortly after |
| 09:11.56 | [MoonWolf] | tem, riposte is nice. |
| 09:12.05 | Tem | but I don't want anything else in the combat tree |
| 09:12.15 | [MoonWolf] | so go for 11 combat |
| 09:12.25 | weab | dagger i guess then |
| 09:12.29 | Tem | sinking 11 points into combat just for ripost has me sort cripled in the other 2 trees |
| 09:12.33 | weab | pvp server? |
| 09:12.35 | Tem | aye |
| 09:12.55 | Tem | it's a new rogue |
| 09:12.58 | Tem | he's only level 25 |
| 09:13.15 | weab | sub is awesome for pvp |
| 09:13.25 | [MoonWolf] | go for combat sub |
| 09:13.27 | [MoonWolf] | I like it. |
| 09:13.41 | weab | spreading out is actually fine for a rog |
| 09:13.48 | weab | there are a lot of good talents in teh first few tiers |
| 09:13.56 | Tem | I *want* vigor |
| 09:14.03 | Tem | it's so,so sexy |
| 09:14.04 | [MoonWolf] | yeah, rogue cookie cutter is actually a spread out one. |
| 09:14.11 | [MoonWolf] | never used vigor.... |
| 09:14.21 | weab | i was never that impressed with it |
| 09:14.25 | weab | the only thing vigor does |
| 09:14.33 | weab | is let you get the +10 from set |
| 09:14.37 | Tem | Ambush -> backstab with nothing but the global cooldown in between is awesome |
| 09:14.43 | weab | so you can instantly do ambush backstab |
| 09:14.49 | weab | but |
| 09:14.54 | weab | you can already pretty much do that anyway |
| 09:15.00 | [MoonWolf] | get energytimer |
| 09:15.02 | weab | with the 1 tick you get during global cooldown |
| 09:15.09 | Tem | yeah |
| 09:15.17 | [MoonWolf] | time the attack to have the energy get right in the cooldown. |
| 09:15.23 | Tem | but the energy thing makes me nervous |
| 09:15.28 | [MoonWolf] | 120 engery effectivly |
| 09:15.41 | [MoonWolf] | I love it. |
| 09:15.55 | [MoonWolf] | no more mashing the keys until you energy gets high enough |
| 09:16.19 | [MoonWolf] | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:16.32 | [MoonWolf] | it doubles as a good mana tick predictor too. |
| 09:16.54 | weab | tem, if you're dagger you need 8 in combat anyway |
| 09:17.09 | Tem | for the backstab? |
| 09:17.14 | weab | yes |
| 09:17.43 | [MoonWolf] | yeah, better take those extra two points anyway |
| 09:18.10 | [MoonWolf] | 3 |
| 09:18.49 | Tem | is hemorrage as useless as it looks? |
| 09:19.38 | weab | its worth the point if you're going heavy sub anyway |
| 09:19.43 | [MoonWolf] | no |
| 09:19.47 | [MoonWolf] | its really usefull |
| 09:19.53 | [MoonWolf] | cause it still uses the old damage system |
| 09:20.04 | [MoonWolf] | get a really slow mace and it WILL out damage sinister strike |
| 09:20.09 | [MoonWolf] | or be on par |
| 09:20.16 | [MoonWolf] | but its less energy |
| 09:20.33 | [MoonWolf] | and it act like a +8 damage enchant too. |
| 09:20.37 | weab | as a dagger rog though |
| 09:20.41 | weab | yah that's the bigger part |
| 09:21.41 | weab | i'm something like 16/8/27 |
| 09:22.22 | weab | sub makes me happy on pvp server |
| 09:22.30 | Tem | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues/talents.html?00000000000000003203500100000000000055555103003100301 is what I'm looking at now |
| 09:29.04 | weab | personally as a dagger rogue i dont find it as useful as it seems to get so many combo points |
| 09:29.38 | weab | there's not all that much you really want to spend them on other than the stun, hell evis doesnt really even reliably do more damage than a backstab |
| 09:30.50 | Tem | I agree somewhat with that |
| 09:31.12 | weab | my main is a druid, and i love that druid seal fate equiv. so when i started a rog i was hard for all those combo point giving things |
| 09:31.16 | Tem | but evis as a damage dealer is very reliable for me pre 60 |
| 09:31.27 | weab | but as i played it, didn't feel as useful |
| 09:31.29 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1084 10FuBar/ (6 files): FuBar - separate Autohiding for top and bottom. |
| 09:31.30 | weab | *nod |
| 09:31.31 | [MoonWolf] | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues/talents.html?00000000000000003203500100000000000055555103003100301 <- my current build. |
| 09:31.59 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 09:32.10 | Wobin_ | I'm working down the combat tree for grinding purposes... |
| 09:32.15 | Tem | [MoonWolf]: isn't that exactly what I posted? |
| 09:32.21 | Wobin_ | This a good thing? Or are there better ways? |
| 09:32.29 | [MoonWolf] | eeueh |
| 09:32.31 | [MoonWolf] | looks like it |
| 09:32.35 | Tem | hehe |
| 09:32.35 | [MoonWolf] | did not look at yours |
| 09:32.51 | [MoonWolf] | yust got it out of my bookmarks |
| 09:33.24 | weab | combat is a good choice for grinding |
| 09:33.25 | Tem | the only change I'm thinking about is taking 2 points out of elusiveness for imp cheapshot |
| 09:33.45 | Tem | but, I really don't know wtf I'm talking about since I've only played my rogue to 25 |
| 09:33.51 | Tem | I don't even have cheapshot yet |
| 09:34.06 | weab | possibly |
| 09:34.06 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1085 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - made slider's frameStrata same as the rest of the levels. |
| 09:34.44 | Tem | I was thinking something like premed, cheapshot, gouge, evis |
| 09:35.01 | [MoonWolf] | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues/talents.html?30530000300000003020500100000000000045055003000120010 <- used this for a while too. |
| 09:36.13 | Tem | anyway, I need to get to bed |
| 09:36.16 | Tem | later guys |
| 09:36.22 | [MoonWolf] | night. |
| 09:36.41 | ckknight | cya |
| 09:37.04 | weab | i blinked myself through a bridge |
| 09:37.21 | haste | I've blinked myself trough the ground once |
| 09:37.33 | *** part/#wowace weab (n=asdf@cpe-66-68-62-162.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 09:37.35 | [MoonWolf] | that happens. |
| 09:37.37 | Tem|Sleep | woah |
| 09:37.41 | *** join/#wowace weab (n=asdf@cpe-66-68-62-162.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 09:37.45 | Tem|Sleep | hey um |
| 09:37.50 | haste | through is the correct word I guess |
| 09:37.53 | Tem|Sleep | remember that CG mod that made a fool of himself? |
| 09:37.56 | haste | Tem|Sleep: aren't you sleeping? |
| 09:38.00 | Tem|Sleep | he's no longer a Mod |
| 09:38.05 | weab | which? |
| 09:38.12 | Tem|Sleep | heh |
| 09:38.16 | weab | drejkinator? |
| 09:38.21 | Tem|Sleep | Darjk |
| 09:38.26 | weab | right, that |
| 09:39.10 | Tem|Sleep | I refreshed "the thread" just for shits before going to bed |
| 09:39.15 | Wobin_ | woah |
| 09:39.29 | weab | that's interesting |
| 09:39.42 | weab | i'd say you should be content, except it was net that started the shitfest |
| 09:40.31 | Tem|Sleep | NeT's the only one I'm really angry with |
| 09:40.56 | Tem|Sleep | the others are just too pigheaded to agknowledge their own ignorance of copyright stuff |
| 09:40.56 | haste | he's a retard in-game also, after what I've seen at least |
| 09:41.21 | Tem|Sleep | haste: are you on the same server as them? |
| 09:41.31 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 09:42.12 | [MoonWolf] | looks like the curse crew handled him |
| 09:42.13 | [MoonWolf] | good. |
| 09:42.45 | weab | well, if they handled him they didn't admit it |
| 09:42.58 | weab | note the "as he requested" |
| 09:43.01 | haste | Tem|Sleep: friend of mine was |
| 09:43.21 | [MoonWolf] | weab, something more happend then that, I am very sure. |
| 09:43.22 | Tem|Sleep | weab: that's standard |
| 09:43.35 | weab | is it? |
| 09:43.52 | Tem|Sleep | weab: whenever an official does something that is foolish |
| 09:43.55 | [MoonWolf] | its called disasociation. |
| 09:44.06 | Tem|Sleep | rather than their boss 'firing' them, they respecfully resign |
| 09:44.15 | weab | oh, no shit |
| 09:44.18 | weab | but this is a fucking forum |
| 09:44.26 | Tem|Sleep | yeah, but it's the same sort of thing |
| 09:44.28 | weab | not a government office |
| 09:44.33 | [MoonWolf] | same deal here |
| 09:44.45 | *** join/#wowace Stylpe (n=Stylpe@210.80-202-248.nextgentel.com) |
| 09:44.55 | Tem|Sleep | he made a fool of himself making the whole CG admins group look foolish |
| 09:44.57 | [MoonWolf] | he was an idiot, my post pointed out that he was hurting curse by this, CG people picked it up. it was dealt with. |
| 09:46.20 | Tem|Sleep | it does irk me that none of them have agknowledged that their actions were wrong |
| 09:46.25 | Tem|Sleep | o well |
| 09:46.34 | [MoonWolf] | sleep tight. |
| 09:46.38 | Tem|Sleep | acknowledged* |
| 09:46.40 | weab | i guess thats why i'm skeptical |
| 09:46.55 | weab | like they would have said so publically they they disapproved |
| 09:47.17 | Tem|Sleep | weab: I think they are trying to ride the fence |
| 09:47.47 | Tem|Sleep | Well, I hope it has pointy posts |
| 09:47.54 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 09:48.13 | Tem|Sleep | off to bed with me |
| 09:48.13 | weab | darjk may have just been told to stop posting and he threw a hissy fit and quit |
| 09:48.28 | weab | instead of a chewing out :P |
| 09:48.57 | Tem|Sleep | I think very little chewing out goes on when you are an unpaid volunteer |
| 09:49.30 | Tem|Sleep | bah, stop talking |
| 09:49.39 | weab | :P |
| 09:51.39 | Tem|Sleep | I'd just like to share that as I flicked on my TV before I went to bed, I saw a show called... |
| 09:51.42 | Tem|Sleep | *drum roll* |
| 09:51.49 | haste | d0h! |
| 09:52.00 | weab | the net? |
| 09:52.03 | haste | I cleaned... and I removed my little drinking glass |
| 09:52.05 | Tem|Sleep | "Chuck Norris and the Super Karate Kommandos" |
| 09:52.16 | weab | ah. yeah |
| 09:52.18 | Tem|Sleep | no joke |
| 09:52.26 | [MoonWolf] | that has to be the worst show title ever. |
| 09:52.27 | weab | yep |
| 09:52.35 | haste | I so want to see that show :OO |
| 09:52.36 | weab | isnt it a cartoon show? |
| 09:52.38 | Tem|Sleep | yes |
| 09:52.45 | Tem|Sleep | cartoon from like early 80s |
| 09:53.05 | Tem|Sleep | the animation style looks like the old GI Joe |
| 09:53.07 | haste | It looks cool tho' |
| 09:53.20 | Tem|Sleep | no |
| 09:53.35 | Tem|Sleep | bad |
| 09:53.59 | Tem|Sleep | ok, for real this time |
| 09:54.05 | [MoonWolf] | suuuure |
| 09:54.07 | haste | I'm not kidding, I want to see one episode before I say it sucks :p |
| 09:54.52 | [MoonWolf] | this is the internet , we dont do wellinformed opinions and dicisions. |
| 09:55.14 | Wobin_ | godsdamn resistsing pickpocketses |
| 09:55.53 | Wobin_ | who resists pickpocketing! I mean, really! |
| 09:55.54 | [MoonWolf] | I wish pick pockets had a chance to give gonads.... |
| 09:56.05 | Wobin_ | Mostly strife, I'm afraid |
| 09:56.16 | weab | http://isohunt.com/download.php?mode=bt&id=10861625 |
| 09:56.19 | weab | for haste |
| 09:56.47 | Wobin_ | at level 20, mind you |
| 09:56.54 | Wobin_ | But I want poisons damnit. |
| 09:57.25 | weab | the tower in westfall? |
| 09:58.15 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 09:58.24 | Godless | hrm |
| 09:58.33 | Godless | more people need to get digg accounts |
| 09:58.34 | Godless | and digg http://digg.com/technology/Rob_Levin,_head_of_Freenode,_Committing_Fraud_ |
| 09:58.51 | weab | you can suicide in and rez next to the chest |
| 09:58.54 | weab | and loot it without aggro |
| 09:59.16 | weab | i think |
| 09:59.35 | Wobin_ | I need to pick the pocket first |
| 09:59.52 | Wobin_ | Distract would be useful, but I have it not yet |
| 09:59.52 | weab | oh right. |
| 10:02.51 | Wobin_ | I decided the die and res trick would be easier than sneaking =) |
| 10:03.18 | Wobin_ | even though it's a stupid long walk from the gy |
| 10:03.33 | weab | sneaking isn't actually possible at 20 |
| 10:04.06 | haste | weab: haha ;O |
| 10:04.33 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 10:04.35 | Wobin_ | reading thott |
| 10:04.48 | Wobin_ | "I easily soloed this one at level 28! Noobs!" |
| 10:04.55 | weab | lol |
| 10:05.06 | haste | yeah, those comments are always fun |
| 10:05.25 | weab | i like the rating/threshold stuff they added |
| 10:05.37 | weab | so sorely needed |
| 10:06.27 | Wobin_ | hrm, looks like Im going to have to sap hjim =P |
| 10:07.55 | weab | :( |
| 10:10.16 | Wobin_ | I must have very noisy lockpicking |
| 10:12.21 | [MoonWolf] | you have to sap him |
| 10:12.26 | [MoonWolf] | that is the point of the quest |
| 10:12.32 | [MoonWolf] | to use all your rogue abilities. |
| 10:12.37 | weab | i never sapped him |
| 10:13.08 | Wobin_ | if your level is high enough, he won't notice |
| 10:13.14 | Wobin_ | since your aggro range is reduced |
| 10:13.33 | weab | i wasn't very much higher than the quest was |
| 10:13.35 | [MoonWolf] | I did it like this, sneak in, sap, run out like hell. |
| 10:13.43 | [MoonWolf] | the horde one is more fun. |
| 10:13.47 | [MoonWolf] | although harder. |
| 10:13.59 | haste | the one with the L23 elite? |
| 10:14.22 | [MoonWolf] | yep |
| 10:14.25 | [MoonWolf] | he can be killed |
| 10:14.35 | haste | yeah, did it today with my L24 rogue |
| 10:14.37 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 10:14.42 | [MoonWolf] | you can half his health with a ambush |
| 10:14.44 | Wobin_ | klaven is standing outside the tower now |
| 10:14.54 | [MoonWolf] | so distract, ambush, rupture, vanish, ambush. |
| 10:14.59 | Wobin_ | [MoonWolf]: I'm level 20 =P |
| 10:15.01 | haste | that I didn't know of |
| 10:15.10 | haste | but vanish drags you out of combat |
| 10:15.14 | [MoonWolf] | rupture is to make him stay in combat |
| 10:15.18 | [MoonWolf] | its a dot. |
| 10:15.25 | haste | that actually works :O |
| 10:15.28 | haste | *tests* |
| 10:15.49 | haste | shit server |
| 10:15.58 | weab | dots dont keep you in combat |
| 10:16.03 | haste | I log in and the first thing I see is: Server restart in: 2:00 |
| 10:16.14 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 10:16.31 | [MoonWolf] | weab.... eeuh, I do remember doing ti like that. |
| 10:16.46 | Wobin_ | Well, that's done =) |
| 10:16.57 | Wobin_ | yay for thistle tea |
| 10:18.16 | haste | I did that quest afterwards :p |
| 10:18.27 | haste | I hate questing :< |
| 10:18.35 | Wobin_ | Well.. |
| 10:18.38 | Wobin_ | I want poisons |
| 10:18.43 | Wobin_ | So I can grind humanoids easier =P |
| 10:18.44 | haste | so did I :D |
| 10:18.53 | Wobin_ | Damn cowardly run awayers |
| 10:18.56 | haste | only reason I did those two quests where: zhe tea! and poison |
| 10:19.06 | [MoonWolf] | free tea. |
| 10:19.27 | haste | :D |
| 10:19.43 | [MoonWolf] | if only that quest was repeatable |
| 10:19.55 | [MoonWolf] | horde rogues would pwn everybody |
| 10:20.50 | haste | I have to say that the horde version of the quest was harder *whines* |
| 10:21.24 | [MoonWolf] | but more FUN |
| 10:22.23 | haste | yeah, and less time taking :p |
| 10:22.46 | haste | the alliance version is: travel here and talk to him, then here, then here, then here ... etc |
| 10:23.44 | weab | you're describing 80% of alliance quests |
| 10:24.28 | haste | hehe, that might be |
| 10:28.47 | *** join/#wowace Qaarh (i=Qaarh@c-9a1c72d5.029-112-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 10:29.00 | ckknight | hey Qaarh |
| 10:31.24 | Qaarh | morning |
| 10:31.38 | [MoonWolf] | Cairenn|sleep, if you are only slight not asleep, now would be a good point the +m wowi |
| 10:33.03 | haste | haha |
| 10:33.14 | haste | I want to take a screen, and make a red line next to zeeg's nick |
| 10:33.23 | weab | mm |
| 10:33.37 | weab | curiousity killed the wobbles |
| 10:33.49 | clad|likeskawk | god damnit bobby |
| 10:34.01 | Stylpe | weab, I hope you have fire res gear on =P |
| 10:34.03 | [MoonWolf] | hey, you are supposed to be sleeping. |
| 10:34.17 | clad|likeskawk | clowns |
| 10:35.05 | weab | i can already see this is beautiful idiocy |
| 10:39.05 | Codayus | Okay, I've found an addon that causes my client to completely freeze solid if I log into a raid while it's active. |
| 10:39.22 | haste | Codayus: oh? |
| 10:39.26 | Qaarh | sounds ouch |
| 10:39.47 | Stylpe | Codayus, I can make an addon like that too :D |
| 10:39.48 | Codayus | Yeah...I can have it running when I zone into MC, but if I D/C, I have to disable it. |
| 10:39.56 | Codayus | It's squeakywheel, btw. |
| 10:40.03 | weab | how has that guy not been banned |
| 10:40.07 | Codayus | What I'm wondering is, does anyone know the kind of thing that'll cause that? |
| 10:40.20 | Codayus | Something funky with events, yes? |
| 10:41.02 | [MoonWolf] | if you ran curse curse would not be so popular. |
| 10:41.06 | [MoonWolf] | oops wrong channel |
| 10:41.07 | Codayus | Trying to work out why it's doing it, but the code looks sane at first glance.. |
| 10:41.10 | haste | weab: from the world? |
| 10:41.55 | Codayus | hmm...ug, I see zeeg is in fine form over in the other channel. |
| 10:42.59 | [MoonWolf] | I still wonder why Cairenn tolerates him... |
| 10:43.04 | ckknight | why did he insult my family? |
| 10:43.17 | [MoonWolf] | I have no idea ckknight |
| 10:43.18 | ckknight | Jesus tapdancing Christ |
| 10:43.25 | [MoonWolf] | he is like that. |
| 10:43.35 | [MoonWolf] | you can try to discuss something with him, but he always does that. |
| 10:43.35 | Godless | zerg? |
| 10:43.55 | ckknight | zeeg. |
| 10:44.32 | Godless | zeeg rush/ |
| 10:44.37 | haste | Codayus: it updates everytime UNIT_HEALTH and UNIT_AURA fires |
| 10:44.57 | haste | I have no idea if those fire like mad when you log into a raid tho' |
| 10:45.04 | Codayus | Hmm. |
| 10:45.30 | clad|likeskawk | hehe |
| 10:45.40 | clad|likeskawk | "Some of the participants in the Phase II clinical trial reported slight swelling of the testes with no associated pain." |
| 10:45.45 | clad|likeskawk | I like that side effect |
| 10:45.52 | Godless | no you dont |
| 10:45.54 | Godless | thats called blue balls. |
| 10:46.00 | Godless | and its painful. |
| 10:46.06 | clad|likeskawk | I like big balls and I cannot lie |
| 10:46.16 | clad|likeskawk | "with no associated pain" |
| 10:46.19 | Codayus | haste: That sounds logicla. |
| 10:46.23 | Codayus | logical, even |
| 10:46.37 | Godless | oh heh |
| 10:46.40 | Godless | I didnt read the rest of the line |
| 10:46.47 | clad|likeskawk | :P |
| 10:46.48 | haste | Codayus: try to login with Fireshow on while in the raid :p |
| 10:46.49 | Godless | I was too busy watching lesbian porn in another window |
| 10:46.57 | clad|likeskawk | haste: ouch |
| 10:47.01 | Codayus | It doesn't break unless there's a bunch of people. |
| 10:47.03 | [MoonWolf] | tekkub , what are you talking about ? |
| 10:47.08 | Codayus | Seems like it needs 20 or so... |
| 10:47.18 | clad|likeskawk | some male birth control drug |
| 10:47.20 | Codayus | But with only a couple I should be able to see if I'm getting event spam. |
| 10:47.27 | [MoonWolf] | like you need that. |
| 10:47.29 | Codayus | Even if its not enough to break squeakywheel. |
| 10:47.32 | clad|likeskawk | I know |
| 10:47.38 | weab | there, i found something zeeg could agree with someone on and now he shut up |
| 10:47.45 | Godless | zeeg rush! kekekeke! |
| 10:47.46 | haste | haha |
| 10:47.49 | Godless | ^_______________________^ happy-sama! |
| 10:47.55 | [MoonWolf] | ~emulate zeeg |
| 10:47.56 | purl | the only way you could make me like any of you is with $, or <reply> let me take this opportunity, to remind everyone, i dont give a shiit about rules |
| 10:48.04 | clad|likeskawk | but hey, I can just see guys taking it for the big ball side effect just like they take viagra for the 3hr hardon side effect |
| 10:48.31 | Stylpe | Godless, you need to cut down on anime.watching =P |
| 10:48.32 | ckknight | ~literal zeeg |
| 10:48.33 | purl | "zeeg" is "one of the admins at wowguru" |
| 10:48.35 | haste | haha |
| 10:48.38 | Stylpe | *anime-watching |
| 10:48.39 | ckknight | ~literal emulate zeeg |
| 10:48.40 | purl | "emulate zeeg" is "<reply> anyone recommend some newer black people music... most people simply call it ni.. music||<reply>i have no morals. im a business man||<reply> the only way you could make me like any of you is with $, or <reply> let me take this opportunity, to remind everyone, i dont give a shiit about rules" |
| 10:48.52 | clad|likeskawk | less anime? |
| 10:48.55 | ckknight | no, emulate zeeg is <reply> anyone recommend some newer black people music... most people simply call it ni.. music||<reply>i have no morals. im a business man||<reply> the only way you could make me like any of you is with $, || <reply> let me take this opportunity, to remind everyone, i dont give a shiit about rule |
| 10:48.57 | Godless | _yes_ |
| 10:48.59 | clad|likeskawk | BLASPHEMUR! |
| 10:49.07 | ckknight | no, emulate zeeg is <reply> anyone recommend some newer black people music... most people simply call it ni.. music||<reply>i have no morals. im a business man||<reply> the only way you could make me like any of you is with $, || <reply> let me take this opportunity, to remind everyone, i dont give a shiit about rules |
| 10:49.09 | Godless | <reply>i have no morals. im a business man |
| 10:49.09 | haste | anime = :D |
| 10:49.10 | Godless | that rocks |
| 10:49.22 | ckknight | I changed the or to a || |
| 10:49.29 | weab | damn mn |
| 10:49.35 | weab | s/mn/nm/ |
| 10:49.41 | weab | omg i lose at regex |
| 10:49.42 | clad|likeskawk | boss doesn't do cigars, he's a pipe man |
| 10:51.42 | ckknight | ? |
| 10:51.52 | clad|likeskawk | I swear WoW has gotten so shitty on performance |
| 10:52.13 | clad|likeskawk | even just LAUNCHING to the login screen takes a wholey inappropriate amount of time now |
| 10:52.24 | Godless | heh |
| 10:52.40 | haste | clad|likeskawk: then you should try to play WoW with Cedega |
| 10:52.47 | Codayus | Bleh, vaguely temped to try and explain copyright laws to zeeg, but I know damn well it won't help him... But I hate backing away from an argument... :-) |
| 10:52.47 | clad|likeskawk | it's like the game just got all retarded and forgot how to work on a basic level |
| 10:52.52 | haste | it has a little bug which makes games take a longer time to start up... |
| 10:53.02 | clad|likeskawk | you take me for a fewl? |
| 10:53.23 | clad|likeskawk | eh oh... FuBar go down the hole! |
| 10:53.28 | haste | what the hell is a 'fewl' :o ? |
| 10:53.32 | haste | *googles* |
| 10:53.38 | ckknight | ? |
| 10:53.41 | ckknight | fool |
| 10:53.45 | haste | oh |
| 10:53.51 | ckknight | yea |
| 10:53.53 | ckknight | Tek's specail |
| 10:53.58 | haste | :p |
| 10:53.59 | clad|likeskawk | FuBarPlugin 1583 index a nil |
| 10:54.06 | Qaarh | WoW works pretty well on Cedega.. well, obviously not perfectly.. but still :) |
| 10:54.14 | clad|likeskawk | 'plugin' |
| 10:54.26 | haste | Qaarh: yeah, but compared to playing it with wine, it does take ages to start |
| 10:54.47 | clad|likeskawk | Quark? or is that Queer? |
| 10:54.49 | clad|likeskawk | Quaar |
| 10:54.50 | [MoonWolf] | I had troubles getting wow to work on wine |
| 10:54.51 | haste | it runs better then in windows tho' :D |
| 10:54.55 | [MoonWolf] | worked charmingly in cedega |
| 10:54.59 | clad|likeskawk | Quarr eye for the str8 guy |
| 10:55.07 | Qaarh | never tried with wine.. i never got it working perfectly with cedega anyhow :P |
| 10:55.16 | [MoonWolf] | and it actually outperforms windows in opengl if windows is running directx |
| 10:55.25 | haste | I played with wine before, then I paid for a month with cedega, and used it since |
| 10:55.50 | ckknight | you fix line 1583 |
| 10:55.56 | ckknight | or change your name |
| 10:56.00 | haste | damn, I'm addicted to a røyksopp song :( |
| 10:56.12 | clad|likeskawk | ck|likeskawk |
| 10:56.22 | clad|likeskawk | at least the other was true |
| 10:56.25 | weab | rofl |
| 10:57.30 | haste | "Tukkub" |
| 10:57.46 | Tekkubcantsleep | u and e are right next to each other :P |
| 10:58.01 | [MoonWolf] | no in qwerty |
| 10:58.04 | Godless | lol |
| 10:58.15 | Tekkubcantsleep | aoeuidhtns-<enter> |
| 10:58.17 | haste | I was going to convert my keyboard to dvorak again |
| 10:58.31 | haste | but......... I used 30min to get one button back in place |
| 10:58.33 | Godless | aoeuidentitis/ |
| 11:01.31 | Qaarh | Dvorak.. looks like a difficult keyboard layout... especially when you're used to qwerty |
| 11:01.45 | [MoonWolf] | everybody can learn. |
| 11:02.01 | Qaarh | yeah, still looks difficult though :D |
| 11:02.03 | [MoonWolf] | I dont want, but I know I could if I did want to learn it. |
| 11:02.15 | Qaarh | but it seems adapted to the english language |
| 11:02.24 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r1086 10Metrognome/Lib/MetrognomeLib.lua: MetrognomeLib - Moved the frame show/hide logic into start/stop instead of register/unregister |
| 11:02.29 | [MoonWolf] | so does qwerty... |
| 11:02.35 | [MoonWolf] | it allows me to spell my real name with one hand |
| 11:02.48 | [MoonWolf] | except for the last letter. |
| 11:02.57 | Qaarh | well, I can't live without åäö ;) |
| 11:03.02 | [MoonWolf] | eeeuh |
| 11:03.04 | Tekkubcantsleep | it's really not "hard" just different |
| 11:03.09 | [MoonWolf] | what country are you from ? |
| 11:03.09 | Qaarh | right |
| 11:03.22 | Qaarh | up north in scandinavia ;) from cold sweden |
| 11:03.29 | Tekkubcantsleep | I thought it'd fix my shitty typo-ful typing, it didn't |
| 11:03.40 | Tekkubcantsleep | my fingers are just stupid and clutzy |
| 11:03.49 | Tekkubcantsleep | I fatfinger shit all the time |
| 11:03.53 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1087 10FuBar_ClockFu/ClockFu.lua: FuBar_ClockFu - fixed negative server offset. |
| 11:03.58 | Godless | I bet you fatfinger your sister |
| 11:04.00 | [MoonWolf] | I did not know you had those chars in your language..... |
| 11:04.07 | Qaarh | hehe |
| 11:04.25 | Tekkubcantsleep | Goddy doesn't know does he? Even barring all that chat earlier.... |
| 11:04.31 | [MoonWolf] | the ã perhaps |
| 11:04.33 | [MoonWolf] | but the others.... |
| 11:04.35 | ckknight | Dvorak is a scan |
| 11:04.37 | ckknight | scam* |
| 11:04.40 | Qaarh | you can type them ;) |
| 11:04.58 | [MoonWolf] | windows doing press ~ and then a. |
| 11:04.59 | Tekkubcantsleep | Dvor is a whole lot more comportable that querty was |
| 11:05.03 | [MoonWolf] | no special keyboard tricks needed. |
| 11:05.18 | Qaarh | I need to write my own actionbar addon... |
| 11:05.26 | Tekkubcantsleep | My fingers aren't moving all over the damn keyboard all the time |
| 11:05.27 | Godless | comportable. |
| 11:05.28 | Wobin_ | Godless: Tek is more likely to fatfinger your brother =P |
| 11:05.39 | Godless | Wobin_: my brother would kick hi ass. |
| 11:05.52 | ckknight | and then slide in? |
| 11:05.57 | [MoonWolf] | that or your brother would become gay.... |
| 11:05.58 | Tekkubcantsleep | like I said, it didn't fix my shitty typing |
| 11:06.00 | Wobin_ | You're saying your sister woudn't if she got fatfingered by a random person? =P |
| 11:06.03 | weab | i'd love to use dvorak, but i can't manage to cripple my typing for even the day it takes to get reaquanited |
| 11:06.08 | Tekkubcantsleep | just made it more comportable |
| 11:06.11 | Wobin_ | hehe I agree, weab |
| 11:06.12 | Godless | my brothers wife would be quite unhappy |
| 11:06.20 | weab | i've tried several times |
| 11:06.34 | Tekkubcantsleep | I took it up the moment I got unemployed |
| 11:06.40 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkubcantsleep, yes, now put an F in there. |
| 11:06.46 | Tekkubcantsleep | within a few weeks I was doing fine |
| 11:07.10 | Wobin_ | Did you use a keyboard with dvorak lettering? |
| 11:07.16 | Tekkubcantsleep | now I have to stare at QWERTY like a moron cause I only type on my computer, nowhere else |
| 11:07.19 | Wobin_ | or head straight into touchtyping? |
| 11:07.26 | Tekkubcantsleep | I changed my keyboard to it |
| 11:07.29 | Wobin_ | ah |
| 11:07.33 | Tekkubcantsleep | I can't touchtype |
| 11:07.45 | Tekkubcantsleep | it's like my inability to handle raw meat |
| 11:07.46 | haste | I want to change my keyboard to dvorak :( |
| 11:07.48 | Wobin_ | yeah, with me, I'm on a laptop...so it's harder to get into dvorak =) |
| 11:07.49 | [MoonWolf] | ah, in that case it easy to adjust. |
| 11:07.55 | haste | but I can't take out the buttons without breaking them |
| 11:08.03 | haste | (laptop keyboard) |
| 11:08.05 | Tekkubcantsleep | I just cannot type without the letters, even tho I'm not activly looking at them |
| 11:08.09 | Tekkubcantsleep | I don't know why |
| 11:08.24 | [MoonWolf] | so you do type with all fingers ? |
| 11:08.33 | Tekkubcantsleep | yall |
| 11:08.37 | Tekkubcantsleep | yarr* |
| 11:08.44 | haste | :-P |
| 11:08.46 | [MoonWolf] | hmm, weird. |
| 11:08.57 | [MoonWolf] | the step up to touch typing is pretty easy. |
| 11:09.02 | [MoonWolf] | was for me anyway. |
| 11:09.13 | weab | i can't remember not touch typing anymore |
| 11:09.15 | Wobin_ | I had a keyboard on one of those desk tray things |
| 11:09.26 | Wobin_ | So I just rolled it under the desk and typed without looking |
| 11:09.29 | [MoonWolf] | I learned at 12.. scheidegger course. |
| 11:09.34 | Tekkubcantsleep | If I try to touchtype then I start secondguessing my keys, get confused, totally forget the layout of the keyboard, and turn into a drooling moron |
| 11:09.45 | Wobin_ | (mostly due to the fact that my monitor took up too much deskspace) |
| 11:09.51 | haste | haha |
| 11:09.51 | weab | that's what the little nads on the f and j are for |
| 11:09.52 | Tekkubcantsleep | with the letters there I have this passive subconscious reminder of what is where |
| 11:09.54 | Qaarh | hrm, call me uneducated, but "touchtyping"? |
| 11:10.05 | Wobin_ | typing without looking at the keyboard |
| 11:10.07 | weab | not looking at the key |
| 11:10.08 | [MoonWolf] | typing without watching you keyboard. |
| 11:10.10 | Qaarh | oh, always. |
| 11:10.11 | Tekkubcantsleep | like now, all this talk has me staring at the keyboard to make sure I'm hitting the right keys |
| 11:10.21 | ckknight | lol |
| 11:10.22 | Qaarh | i stopped looking at my keyboard long tim ago heh |
| 11:10.26 | Tekkubcantsleep | and, ironically, I'm typing a lot faster than usual at the same time |
| 11:10.30 | Wobin_ | Poor tekk has low keyboard esteem =) |
| 11:10.30 | haste | Tekkubcantsleep: damn your externals! |
| 11:10.31 | Qaarh | and I do errors :P |
| 11:10.32 | [MoonWolf] | lol..... |
| 11:10.34 | weab | well see Tekkubcantsleep, if you were looking at the screen, you'd see what you were typing :P |
| 11:10.40 | haste | They are spammnig my svn update and svn status :( |
| 11:10.55 | [MoonWolf] | svn is slow again.... |
| 11:11.01 | Tekkubcantsleep | I don't see how externals are an issue |
| 11:11.12 | Tekkubcantsleep | you don't have to update every damn mod that uses it, just one |
| 11:11.19 | Tekkubcantsleep | harro, embeds! |
| 11:11.30 | [MoonWolf] | I update the entire root every day.... |
| 11:11.37 | Tekkubcantsleep | (I'm sorry) |
| 11:11.39 | haste | it still spamps my svn update AND status :( |
| 11:11.41 | [MoonWolf] | to see what people are up too. |
| 11:11.55 | Tekkubcantsleep | I still have some shit pointed at openSVN... I need to weed thru my folders damnit |
| 11:12.04 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 11:12.11 | Wobin_ | That irritates me no end =) |
| 11:12.15 | Tekkubcantsleep | I also need to get all my damn mods on WoWI |
| 11:12.16 | Wobin_ | I end up updating nothing =P |
| 11:12.44 | Tekkubcantsleep | OMGOMGOMGOMG |
| 11:12.46 | Tekkubcantsleep | !!!!!! |
| 11:12.52 | Tekkubcantsleep | MONEYZ!!!! |
| 11:12.58 | haste | Tekkubcantsleep: you want to see how my svn status looks like :p ? |
| 11:12.59 | Tekkubcantsleep | I HAVE MY FIRST REAL USER! |
| 11:13.16 | Tekkubcantsleep | holy crapman batman, $50 too |
| 11:13.28 | Tekkubcantsleep | *works on ID some more* |
| 11:13.35 | Stylpe | huh? |
| 11:14.05 | Tekkubcantsleep | some guy tryin to bribe me to work on ID, he actually followed thru and sent money |
| 11:14.12 | Tekkubcantsleep | I GET TO EAT THIS MONTH! |
| 11:14.26 | Tekkubcantsleep | oh wait I have a job now... |
| 11:14.27 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 11:14.37 | Qaarh | (this is how I react payday. "I get to eat something this month too!") |
| 11:14.47 | haste | Tekkubcantsleep: http://ace.pastebin.com/686790 << svn status |
| 11:15.44 | haste | well, time to learn about filters I guess |
| 11:16.01 | Tekkubcantsleep | poor poor haste+1% |
| 11:16.14 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 11:16.15 | Godless | lol user? |
| 11:16.16 | Tekkubcantsleep | oh god it's THAT song |
| 11:16.23 | Tekkubcantsleep | *skipskipskipskipskipskip* |
| 11:16.33 | Wobin_ | A happy skipalong song? |
| 11:16.35 | Tekkubcantsleep | *whew* it's gone |
| 11:16.45 | [MoonWolf] | YATTA ? |
| 11:16.50 | Wobin_ | I'm trying to visualise Tekk skipping, but it's not working =P |
| 11:16.57 | Tekkubcantsleep | no, Mike Oldfield |
| 11:17.14 | Wobin_ | PS are there any good Ace poison making/applying addons around? |
| 11:17.16 | [MoonWolf] | why do you even have such, ... stuff. |
| 11:17.22 | Tekkubcantsleep | most of the album is great, but in the middle is some wacky ass folk song fiddle thing that ruins it all |
| 11:17.24 | haste | YATTA is a cool song! |
| 11:17.27 | [MoonWolf] | Wobin_, none that I know off. |
| 11:17.48 | Tekkubcantsleep | Wobin: it's easy to visualize |
| 11:17.56 | Wobin_ | Isn't that "Found a hobo in my room"? |
| 11:18.05 | Tekkubcantsleep | think of the Baywatch with the slowmo running boobie bounce |
| 11:18.12 | Tekkubcantsleep | now shift that down to belly |
| 11:18.12 | Wobin_ | Except hairier |
| 11:18.15 | Tekkubcantsleep | and there you go |
| 11:18.25 | Tekkubcantsleep | I'm sadly not very hairy |
| 11:18.46 | Tekkubcantsleep | and now thanks to this fucking job people think I'm in fucking highschool |
| 11:18.56 | Tekkubcantsleep | that bitch demasculated me |
| 11:19.07 | Tekkubcantsleep | and my beard still intches even tho it's not there |
| 11:19.16 | [MoonWolf] | she made you shave ? |
| 11:19.32 | Tekkubcantsleep | it's like those amputees who get the phantom apendage thing |
| 11:19.50 | [MoonWolf] | isnt it more of hears coming through your skin again ? |
| 11:19.51 | Tekkubcantsleep | yea it's food service, even tho I'm working the produce/packaged side |
| 11:19.53 | [MoonWolf] | hairs* |
| 11:20.05 | Tekkubcantsleep | no, it's the beard |
| 11:20.14 | [MoonWolf] | weird. |
| 11:20.23 | Tekkubcantsleep | I don't get itchy till it's about 1/4" when I'm trying to grow a beard |
| 11:20.49 | Tekkubcantsleep | I love that point |
| 11:21.03 | [MoonWolf] | its a GHOST beard. your beard is hunting you from beyond the abyss of death! |
| 11:21.04 | Godless | heh |
| 11:21.22 | Tekkubcantsleep | I'm seriously trying to find a new job already |
| 11:21.49 | Tekkubcantsleep | I don't like mopping the whole fucking store every night, which is basically what I get to do |
| 11:21.57 | Tekkubcantsleep | mop the cooler room |
| 11:22.02 | Tekkubcantsleep | mop the entrance |
| 11:22.06 | Tekkubcantsleep | mop the lobby |
| 11:22.09 | Tekkubcantsleep | mop the bathrooms |
| 11:22.13 | Tekkubcantsleep | mop the back |
| 11:22.21 | Godless | mop the boss's gentitals. |
| 11:22.26 | Tekkubcantsleep | 2 hours of mopping every night blows |
| 11:22.43 | Tekkubcantsleep | :P |
| 11:23.08 | Tekkubcantsleep | it's the hubby's fault, if his old HS friend wasn't a shift manager I wouldn't've got on there |
| 11:23.35 | Tekkubcantsleep | and I'd still be unemployed and happy |
| 11:23.53 | Tekkubcantsleep | and writing mods every chance I could get |
| 11:24.44 | *** join/#wowace NeT (n=net@dslb-088-064-176-025.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:26.02 | Tekkubcantsleep | o.O |
| 11:26.59 | [MoonWolf] | Behave people. |
| 11:27.34 | Tekkub|blowsmonk | *rasp* |
| 11:27.38 | weab | maybe that worked |
| 11:28.08 | [MoonWolf] | *sigh* |
| 11:28.40 | [MoonWolf] | anyway net, is there a specific thing you are here for or yust hanging/idling ? |
| 11:28.48 | clad|work | that was blowsmonkeys by the way, but blowsmonk was okay for me =) |
| 11:28.52 | clad|work | NeT: Hey net =) |
| 11:29.08 | [HumpWolf] | I blew a monk once |
| 11:29.16 | clad|work | [HumpWolf]: Go to work for me today. |
| 11:29.18 | NeT | [MoonWolf] just wanted to chit chat out of the agressivity of that thread |
| 11:29.22 | [HumpWolf] | well, former monk, he was a lama when I blew him |
| 11:29.22 | clad|work | Its better than mopping, I promise. |
| 11:29.37 | [HumpWolf] | what kind of werk? |
| 11:29.40 | NeT | i m also looking for authors to beta test our new site but i won t promote it here |
| 11:29.51 | clad|work | ooh =) |
| 11:29.54 | NeT | not the real place :? |
| 11:29.58 | NeT | :) |
| 11:30.18 | [MoonWolf] | NeT, good. The general idea here was that it got out of hand on both sides. And that darkj was less then smart. |
| 11:30.44 | NeT | he asked me today to remove his access |
| 11:30.51 | [MoonWolf] | wich was the reason I asked whose opinion darkj was expressing. |
| 11:30.54 | [HumpWolf] | I was simply voicing my views on the whole debacle, I wasn't trying to be aggressive, nor do I think I was |
| 11:31.02 | NeT | i did it, but it s a waste |
| 11:31.07 | clad|work | NeT: Any chance we can get email notification when someone comments on one of our addons? I found most of my european users tend to use Curse, but its tough for me to keep up with all the comments that get left at the 4 mod sites =) |
| 11:31.24 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1088 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBarPlugin.lua): FuBar - fixed nil bug |
| 11:31.39 | [HumpWolf] | I agree with clad, that's my biggest gripe with multiple sites is dealing with user feedback |
| 11:31.43 | weab | from what i could tell, the thread looked like it would have died if it had simply been left alone by the moderators. |
| 11:31.46 | clad|work | NeT: WatchDog still has tons of users over there, and I dont mind being spread out-- its just tough to check and refresh every day at work.. but when emails's involved-- I can respond instantly |
| 11:31.49 | NeT | clad|work ont he new site it will send you a mail if you want everday with a recap of all the new comment in this thread with direct linking |
| 11:31.55 | weab | someone posted some flame bait and you guys took it appeared to be the problem ;\ |
| 11:31.56 | clad|work | *cheer* |
| 11:31.57 | [HumpWolf] | I don't like checking a dozen mods across 4 sites for comment |
| 11:32.12 | clad|work | [HumpWolf]: THat's why I'm asking them all for email notification of new comments =) |
| 11:32.38 | [HumpWolf] | clad|likeskawk: I know :P I'm adding my vote to your request |
| 11:32.42 | clad|work | [HumpWolf]: I typically update at Curse first, cause it doesn't accept HTML or any markup, so I get the plaintetx version done, copy/paste/BAM |
| 11:32.52 | [HumpWolf] | oh yea, NeT's prolly confused.... |
| 11:32.57 | NeT | also new site is much more clean, and we fixed the slow patch days probleme also we moved all the download to ftp now |
| 11:33.10 | NeT | before it was php that was handling all the download |
| 11:33.16 | NeT | making xxxxxxxxx process for apache |
| 11:33.26 | NeT | so when patch days was here, everyone was mad downloading |
| 11:33.29 | NeT | killing our servers |
| 11:34.00 | Godless | heh |
| 11:34.02 | Tekkub | you know what I still think would be beyond kickass, some means of mass uploading to the ui sites... *hint hint* |
| 11:34.05 | Godless | badly written php you mean |
| 11:34.31 | Tekkub | or hell, even a co-op where I can post to WoWI and authorize Curse to duplicate the dowload/notes |
| 11:34.42 | [MoonWolf] | NeT, Let me take this opurtunity to tell you that you or any other curse mod/admin is always welcome to talk to us here or on the forums. If you dont mind the sentiments some people have on the topic of the curse users. |
| 11:35.12 | clad|work | and I'll put the disclaimer that neither Vika nor myself has had an issue with Curse, and I <3 everyone-- except for people I can't stand. |
| 11:35.13 | clad|work | and with that. |
| 11:35.21 | Tekkub | yea everyone knows I hate my users, except that guy that just bribed me |
| 11:35.21 | NeT | allright, don t worry i m used to all the flaming, i m also guild leader of an uber guild :? |
| 11:35.22 | clad|work | I'm off to work.. maybe I'll code some on WatcHDog today |
| 11:35.53 | [MoonWolf] | oh and ckknight hates the gold ads. |
| 11:35.59 | ckknight | oh yes. |
| 11:36.05 | Tekkub | NeT: the whole reason I left Curse was site performance, to be framk |
| 11:36.08 | ckknight | on an ethical level |
| 11:36.24 | clad|work | lol |
| 11:36.29 | haste | site performance and the popup has stopped me form uploading :---D |
| 11:36.30 | Tekkub | and the only reason I don't update is I don't like spending time doing it |
| 11:36.37 | clad|work | NeT: Anytime you wanna come here and NOT talk shop, let me know and I'll shut the kids up. |
| 11:36.45 | clad|work | later folks.. email me-- post on the forums-- keep me intrigued at work. |
| 11:36.48 | clad|work | later |
| 11:36.54 | haste | *waves* |
| 11:36.59 | [MoonWolf] | cya |
| 11:37.01 | Tekkub | BEGONE CLATTER! |
| 11:37.59 | Tekkub | anywho... uhm... where was I... |
| 11:38.26 | Tekkub | performance... blah blah.... I'm lazy... blah blah... update automatically so I don't have to :) |
| 11:38.27 | [MoonWolf] | talking about ... euh your job. |
| 11:38.33 | NeT | anyway if you want to help me beta test this http://guildcurse.free.fr/cursev2/curse%20v2.JPG drop me a pm om curse site |
| 11:38.38 | NeT | on* |
| 11:38.41 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1089 10FuBar_DebugFu/ (DebugFu.lua FuBar_DebugFu.toc): DebugFu - now works with all plugins. |
| 11:38.48 | [MoonWolf] | add a delete button. |
| 11:38.55 | [MoonWolf] | that is all I have to say. |
| 11:39.12 | Tekkub | no grey, I already like it more |
| 11:39.12 | weab | lol |
| 11:39.43 | [MoonWolf] | all of this would have been averted with a delete button :P |
| 11:39.45 | weab | that's one hell of a taskbar |
| 11:39.47 | haste | oh, caching also now NeT? |
| 11:40.00 | NeT | it was cache before .p |
| 11:40.05 | ckknight | NeT, why no gold ads in that screenshot? |
| 11:40.05 | NeT | cached |
| 11:40.12 | haste | haha :p |
| 11:40.23 | Tekkub | cause he uses FF! |
| 11:40.24 | NeT | why are you being aggresive torward me ? |
| 11:40.35 | weab | to be fair |
| 11:40.42 | weab | you started it on the post |
| 11:40.52 | [MoonWolf] | oh gods stop it now. |
| 11:40.54 | weab | i mean i'm not trying to be mean |
| 11:40.58 | Tekkub | NeT, it might come across bad, but we're in the "no gold selling" camp |
| 11:41.08 | weab | but when it all comes down to it, you should have ignored the bait |
| 11:41.14 | Tekkub | oh and ck's a dick too |
| 11:41.19 | NeT | and you are using a website owned by the biggest gold farmer website ? |
| 11:41.24 | NeT | ok is see.. |
| 11:41.27 | NeT | i see.. |
| 11:41.42 | NeT | don t get me started on this please it s ridiculous |
| 11:41.43 | ckknight | Tekkub, you're a dick |
| 11:41.52 | Tekkub | no you're a towel! |
| 11:41.57 | ckknight | no yoiu're a towel! |
| 11:42.00 | [MoonWolf] | NeT, is right on that. |
| 11:42.00 | ckknight | you're* |
| 11:42.04 | Tekkub | you're a towel! |
| 11:42.09 | ckknight | NeT, buying gold just goes against all my economical ethics |
| 11:42.16 | ckknight | no, you are in fact, a towel |
| 11:42.26 | Tekkub | *pause* |
| 11:42.27 | NeT | please |
| 11:42.33 | Tekkub | you're a towel! |
| 11:42.35 | NeT | wowi<ogaming<ige |
| 11:42.45 | [MoonWolf] | and wowi is owned by ogaming and they own ign etc etc. |
| 11:42.47 | NeT | even allakazham sold to ige.... |
| 11:43.15 | NeT | so don t flame me on gold ads when i m the only one left that refused ige ? |
| 11:43.30 | NeT | we are a world wide website it s costing a lot in BW |
| 11:43.56 | NeT | also with the new site gold will prolly totally dissipeare if we can afford it |
| 11:43.59 | NeT | don t know yet... |
| 11:43.59 | Tekkub | it's those blasted user I tell you, they're trouble |
| 11:44.04 | Tekkub | they always want stuff |
| 11:44.33 | NeT | it s just their is a massive trafic on the website so of course their will be more dumb question |
| 11:44.49 | [MoonWolf] | yeah, if they would stop wanting downloads and features all would be well. |
| 11:45.00 | Tekkub | so uhm, where were we before shit+fan? |
| 11:45.20 | [MoonWolf] | positive feedback on that screenie I think. |
| 11:45.24 | NeT | we have been thinking of giving authors their full right of moderation in there addon |
| 11:45.38 | Tekkub | you mean the comments? |
| 11:45.40 | NeT | yes |
| 11:45.49 | Tekkub | ui.wow did that, it was a good idea IMCO |
| 11:45.58 | haste | sounds nice, gives the author the abliity to clean up also |
| 11:46.26 | Tekkub | yea it's really nice when dickheads post "this is useless" in a library mod |
| 11:46.35 | NeT | I totall agree on this |
| 11:46.42 | Tekkub | "no fuckin duh, you're not a dev of course it's useless to you" |
| 11:46.55 | Tekkub | *DELETED* ! |
| 11:46.59 | NeT | we have added a beta section gonna take another screen |
| 11:47.04 | NeT | you ll tell me what you think |
| 11:47.19 | haste | NeT: I have a question regarding rating of mods, the same way as before, or with a reason? |
| 11:47.27 | Tekkub | if it's blarfy grey, it sucks |
| 11:48.32 | NeT | http://guildcurse.free.fr/cursev2/cursev21.JPG |
| 11:48.33 | Tekkub | why is first I was all tired an crap, but then I couldn't sleep, and now I'm all hyper? |
| 11:49.01 | weab | Tekkub: that happens to me too |
| 11:49.09 | weab | but then about 2 hours after that i'm usually dead |
| 11:49.17 | Tekkub | heh |
| 11:49.23 | NeT | the beta place isn t that big like in ui,wow |
| 11:49.28 | NeT | but it s enought i think M |
| 11:49.30 | NeT | ? |
| 11:49.33 | ckknight | actually looks pretty good, NeT |
| 11:49.55 | NeT | thank you |
| 11:49.56 | Tekkub | the kinda carbon-ish color scheme is really very sleak |
| 11:50.08 | [MoonWolf] | oh yes |
| 11:50.10 | Tekkub | the current grey scheme on curse just... ugh |
| 11:50.15 | weab | gotta agree, new color scheme was badly needed :P |
| 11:50.30 | haste | NeT: any system for changelogs? |
| 11:50.36 | NeT | yep |
| 11:50.40 | haste | This is actually starting to interest me |
| 11:50.41 | NeT | scrollable system now |
| 11:50.45 | Tekkub | lesse... other thoughts... email notifications of favorites updates? |
| 11:50.53 | NeT | if you want a beta access just drop me a pm on curse site |
| 11:51.02 | NeT | it s working allready now |
| 11:51.23 | haste | I'll have to ponder it some more. |
| 11:51.40 | ckknight | NeT, would Curse have a Portal-type syatem ala WoWI |
| 11:51.50 | ckknight | cause the Bug Reports/Feature Requests thing is _so_ handy |
| 11:51.55 | Tekkub | oh and one other thing that always bothered me on curse, dependancies always just ran a search |
| 11:52.01 | ckknight | that's really why I posted on WoWI originally |
| 11:52.02 | NeT | to be honnest i havn t look in depth of wowui |
| 11:52.14 | Tekkub | one should be able to directly link to the dependancy |
| 11:52.19 | NeT | it s fixed tekkub now you just give the url of the other addons in dependancy |
| 11:52.24 | Tekkub | good |
| 11:52.27 | NeT | and it will auto link |
| 11:53.04 | Tekkub | and I know it sounds kinda bad considering the thread... but authors can delete their mods now, right? |
| 11:53.17 | NeT | ckknight , about that author portable i think it s a great idear, we will release the site the 7 may and will work in it just after |
| 11:53.22 | NeT | yes they can in the new site |
| 11:53.24 | [MoonWolf] | if I have a number o addons and click on the addon name in the old system I get moved to the edit screen for that addon, but I usually want to go to the addon itself to read comments.... can I do something like that ? |
| 11:54.08 | Tekkub | we seriously need some tool to mass-update all the ui sites with a mod at once.... |
| 11:54.14 | ckknight | yea |
| 11:54.18 | haste | Tekkub: go write one! |
| 11:54.19 | ckknight | I update like twice a day |
| 11:54.28 | haste | I update like.. never :< |
| 11:54.32 | Tekkub | hells no! |
| 11:54.43 | Tekkub | I'm like haste |
| 11:54.44 | NeT | Moonwolf , you will indeed have a direct access from your author pannel to your addon and it will notice you if you have new comment also |
| 11:54.52 | Tekkub | I put up one version then link the SVN anymore |
| 11:54.55 | [MoonWolf] | great |
| 11:54.55 | NeT | prolly collor change when new comments |
| 11:55.05 | [MoonWolf] | now to pester dolby in doing the comments thing. |
| 11:55.18 | Tekkub | hey NeT, there's a question for you |
| 11:55.31 | Tekkub | what exactly is ya'alls policy on outside links |
| 11:55.44 | Tekkub | cause uhm, ui.wow pissed me off over that whole thing |
| 11:55.47 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1090 10FuBar/FuBarPlugin.lua: FuBar - fixed plugin nil value |
| 11:56.38 | NeT | tekkub i think if you create an addon page on curse you should leave at least a download, we are totally open if authors write in big go to this website to post comments please |
| 11:57.07 | Tekkub | well I personally would be linking a few things... |
| 11:57.16 | Tekkub | WoWI portal for bugs/feature requests |
| 11:57.29 | haste | +wiki, +svn :o ? |
| 11:57.34 | Tekkub | AceSVN for "latest build" as I rarely make a full release t othe UI sites |
| 11:57.50 | Tekkub | and maybe AceWiki, Ace forum thread |
| 11:58.55 | NeT | allright |
| 11:59.00 | ckknight | I wonder how hard it'd be to write a program to update all sites |
| 11:59.12 | ckknight | hrm |
| 11:59.42 | ckknight | Once I fix all bugs in FuBar, I might do it |
| 11:59.47 | ckknight | well, at least for WoWI |
| 11:59.52 | ckknight | then add support for other sites |
| 11:59.59 | ckknight | it'd be great if I could automate it |
| 12:00.01 | Tekkub | hell even some batchscript that made a zip, parsed a text file to get a version and comments and then did a POST would probably suffice |
| 12:00.21 | ckknight | my script creates a changelog file and zips |
| 12:00.32 | ckknight | I could probably set it up to do a POSt |
| 12:00.40 | Tekkub | but something more robust with a UI would of course be neater... pick the mod, add to the changelog, click it makes the zip and sends |
| 12:00.49 | CIA-13 | 03otravi * r1091 10oRA/ (oRA.toc oRA_CoreLocals.lua): oRA_Core: Updated TOC version, and locals version. |
| 12:00.51 | haste | ckknight: *pokes* scripts? |
| 12:01.08 | Tekkub | hey NeT.. there's a request for you.... |
| 12:01.34 | NeT | sure |
| 12:01.37 | Tekkub | some sort of simple API we can use to submit via a program/script |
| 12:02.35 | ckknight | SOAP or something |
| 12:02.43 | ckknight | anything |
| 12:02.45 | Tekkub | that's really my biggest hinderance to using multiple sites, lack of desire to update files and update user comments |
| 12:03.05 | Tekkub | email notification fixes the user end |
| 12:03.14 | ckknight | NeT, if I can automate posting, I would post all my addons on Curse |
| 12:03.25 | Tekkub | and not deleting my fucking links to my wowi portal *glares at ui.wow* |
| 12:03.37 | [MoonWolf] | and spam the recent updates list to death |
| 12:03.44 | haste | haha |
| 12:03.52 | ckknight | hey, I update often |
| 12:03.56 | ckknight | and it's a marketing strategy |
| 12:03.58 | NeT | ckknight i m gonna talk to my coders |
| 12:04.04 | ckknight | NeT, coding is fun! |
| 12:04.06 | haste | :( |
| 12:04.16 | NeT | ye i m the only one in the curse staff that is clueless in coding .p |
| 12:04.22 | NeT | i know html |
| 12:04.27 | NeT | !! |
| 12:04.34 | haste | hah, xhtml is the new shit |
| 12:04.38 | Tekkub | lua is easy you should give it a whirl |
| 12:04.45 | haste | does CG follow the standards btw :D ? |
| 12:04.52 | [MoonWolf] | xhtml was the new shit 5 years ago too. |
| 12:05.08 | Tekkub | once you learn how to use tables, well basically every datastructure you use is a table :) |
| 12:05.09 | NeT | we are xhtml and wc3 complient |
| 12:05.11 | NeT | in the v2 |
| 12:05.19 | haste | NeT: good to hear |
| 12:05.34 | Tekkub | v1 is just.... grey? |
| 12:05.37 | haste | << former webdev/thingy |
| 12:05.54 | ckknight | << same |
| 12:05.56 | ckknight | or similar |
| 12:06.00 | ckknight | I've done web stuff |
| 12:06.07 | ckknight | NeT, wc3 compliancy is handy |
| 12:06.16 | ckknight | w3c* |
| 12:06.29 | haste | designs done with pure CSS and no abuse of tables <3 |
| 12:06.31 | Tekkub | warcraft3 compliancy is good too |
| 12:06.42 | NeT | tt |
| 12:06.44 | haste | they render fast, don't drag so much BW and they are easy to update :D |
| 12:06.47 | ckknight | NeT, honestly, if you just make a simple way to POST, or a documented way to POST, it'd work |
| 12:07.14 | NeT | ckknight what about having on a access on v2 and checking if it s good enought for you :p |
| 12:07.23 | ckknight | that'd be good |
| 12:07.24 | Tekkub | think we can wrastle ui.wow into doing the same for us? |
| 12:07.35 | ckknight | if I make a script that can automate publishing, I'll be sure to give it away |
| 12:07.52 | Tekkub | I wonder if I'm still an admin there... |
| 12:07.59 | ckknight | meh, I just want to conquer titan |
| 12:08.02 | ckknight | that's my goal |
| 12:08.15 | ckknight | part of doing that is publishing on other sites |
| 12:08.20 | ckknight | whether I want to or not |
| 12:08.22 | [MoonWolf] | your a wowgury admin ? |
| 12:08.32 | Tekkub | titan's not made any noticable progress since months before it was abandoned |
| 12:08.44 | ckknight | though, if I'm treated well, it'll all be good |
| 12:08.52 | Tekkub | his hardheadded ness not to add extra bars is what started it's downward spiral |
| 12:08.58 | Tekkub | yes moon |
| 12:09.06 | [MoonWolf] | wow... illogical. |
| 12:09.09 | Tekkub | zeeg thinks, get this, that I like him |
| 12:09.13 | NeT | ckknight we have a really tallented c++ coder i just talked to him and he is interestedin working on this |
| 12:09.14 | haste | haha |
| 12:09.27 | ckknight | okay |
| 12:09.29 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 12:09.32 | ckknight | you code your site in C++? |
| 12:09.41 | NeT | no i mean about the updater |
| 12:09.43 | ckknight | oh |
| 12:09.44 | ckknight | okay |
| 12:09.44 | NeT | on multi site |
| 12:09.47 | ckknight | I'd prefer .NET |
| 12:09.52 | haste | no! |
| 12:09.54 | Codayus | I'm up to three fubar bars by now. :-/ |
| 12:09.56 | haste | I can't use .NET |
| 12:10.01 | ckknight | lol, Codayus |
| 12:10.01 | Tekkub | NeT: I bet Cair/Dolby will be open to it |
| 12:10.04 | ckknight | why not, haste? |
| 12:10.09 | Tekkub | we do have weight with them :) |
| 12:10.12 | Codayus | I keep running across cool plugins. I need to cut down. :-( |
| 12:10.18 | haste | or last time I tested it made wine go bananas |
| 12:10.26 | Tekkub | and they always spout their propaganda about " the community" |
| 12:10.28 | ckknight | haste, you don't use wine, you use Mono |
| 12:10.29 | Tekkub | *hides* |
| 12:10.38 | haste | ckknight: give me a sec to google :) |
| 12:10.39 | ckknight | I used to be a Boo developer |
| 12:10.40 | Stylpe | "Hello. My name is Codayus, and I'm an addon addict." |
| 12:10.46 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 12:10.51 | ckknight | Boo is a .NET language |
| 12:11.00 | Tekkub | the only real hurdle I see is ui.wow |
| 12:11.01 | ckknight | http://boo.codehaus.org/ |
| 12:11.24 | haste | *emerges mono* |
| 12:11.26 | Codayus | Bah, I've hardly got much over 2 dozen fubar plugins... |
| 12:11.28 | ckknight | .NET works in both Windows and non-Windows with Mono |
| 12:11.30 | ckknight | haste, gentoo? |
| 12:11.34 | haste | yes |
| 12:11.38 | Tekkub | yup, still a wowguru admin |
| 12:11.38 | Codayus | And a mere...121 addons. That's really not that bad. |
| 12:11.40 | ckknight | same |
| 12:11.42 | ckknight | my server |
| 12:11.44 | Tekkub | poor poor zeegy |
| 12:11.46 | [MoonWolf] | Codayus, I have half. |
| 12:11.56 | NeT | our 11 servers are on freebsd ;p |
| 12:11.59 | haste | I went from Slackware -> Debian -> Gentoo |
| 12:12.24 | ckknight | Gentoo -> Fedora -> Debian -> Arch -> Ubuntu -> Gentoo |
| 12:12.30 | ckknight | or so |
| 12:12.42 | ckknight | my server has Gentoo |
| 12:12.47 | Tekkub | I went... Windows |
| 12:12.48 | ckknight | I'm a Ubuntu fan, though |
| 12:12.52 | ckknight | I'm running Windows now |
| 12:13.01 | ckknight | cause WoW won't run for me (ATI) |
| 12:13.07 | haste | I have ATI |
| 12:13.08 | Tekkub | every time I tinker in Linux I just don't have any practacle reason to use it |
| 12:13.15 | haste | and it was a pain getting WoW to run :p |
| 12:13.35 | Codayus | Yeah, I gave up on wow and cedega twice when I was running an ATI card. |
| 12:13.53 | haste | You just have to use the correct Cedega settings tho' |
| 12:14.02 | Codayus | Got a new box and a nvidia card, but everything's working so well, I can't be bothered to try it again... |
| 12:14.05 | haste | and not use any of the automatic stuff in Cedega :p |
| 12:14.26 | haste | nvidia + cedega + wow = insane performance |
| 12:14.27 | Codayus | haste: Yeah, I wasted a couple days of my life playing with the settings and recompiling kernel modules. Bleh. |
| 12:14.38 | Codayus | ati + cedega = insane headaches. |
| 12:14.57 | haste | I had more problems with glxgears and ati :p |
| 12:15.04 | haste | or opengl in general |
| 12:15.34 | Codayus | Well, I didn't have MORE problems with it. But that absorbed a fun and amusing weekend too... |
| 12:15.50 | Codayus | Did I say "fun and amusing"? I think I meant "frustrating and annoying". |
| 12:16.07 | haste | I like tinkering :o |
| 12:16.25 | haste | In most cases I keep going untill I find a solution, or drop of lack of sleep |
| 12:16.30 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 12:16.53 | Codayus | But sometimes you have to prioritize your time a bit. :-) |
| 12:16.59 | haste | hehe |
| 12:17.09 | haste | I even had a competition when I installed gentoo last time :p |
| 12:17.41 | haste | we have the same hardware setup, except that he has Nvidia |
| 12:18.10 | haste | I lost btw, with four houts |
| 12:18.42 | ckknight | lol |
| 12:18.52 | ckknight | nVidia is so much easier on Linux |
| 12:18.53 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 12:19.30 | ckknight | BSD is fun, too |
| 12:19.41 | [MoonWolf] | I tried ti install bsd once. |
| 12:19.46 | [MoonWolf] | it wasnt fun. |
| 12:19.47 | haste | s/ts/rs/ |
| 12:20.08 | haste | I haven't tried BSD actually |
| 12:20.21 | NeT | well bsd is really nice but so hard to use |
| 12:23.50 | haste | I should set of a week to play with it |
| 12:30.15 | Tain | Of course they do say, "Linux is for people who hate Microsoft. BSD is for people who like Unix." |
| 12:30.44 | Tekkub | hey boss, what line did you fix that nil plugin error on? |
| 12:31.19 | Tekkub | cause I'm gettin FuBarPlugin.lua:1583 index nil 'plugin' |
| 12:31.48 | ckknight | yea, that |
| 12:31.57 | ckknight | change plugin to self, you'll be gold |
| 12:33.58 | Net | gah i can t remeber the pw i used some month ago here to register |
| 12:36.11 | haste | :-( |
| 12:38.10 | Tekkub | gah, boss, problems with MtnDewDrop |
| 12:38.33 | Tekkub | it's opening submenus on the right for me most the time, even if that makes em offscreen |
| 12:38.43 | Tekkub | *the left* |
| 12:40.01 | Tain | Opening menus off-screen saves you valuable screen real estate. |
| 12:40.19 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 12:40.57 | haste | I should finish my castingbar now, before I actually have something to do |
| 12:41.24 | [MoonWolf] | yes |
| 12:41.27 | [MoonWolf] | go go go go |
| 12:45.30 | netcurse | i can t find the url to register the nick |
| 12:46.24 | [MoonWolf] | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.57 | netcurse | got to create the username first .P |
| 12:47.35 | [MoonWolf] | nope, having the name is enough. |
| 12:48.18 | [MoonWolf] | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:48.35 | netcurse | thanks .P |
| 12:48.41 | [MoonWolf] | my bad. |
| 12:48.50 | netcurse | kServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password> |
| 12:48.53 | netcurse | =) |
| 12:49.30 | [MoonWolf] | stupid inconsisten nickservs! |
| 13:13.47 | Qaarh | quick question, is it possible to turn off nameplates some way without an addon? |
| 13:13.52 | Qaarh | for players |
| 13:14.03 | [MoonWolf] | in interface options |
| 13:14.24 | Qaarh | oh duh |
| 13:14.25 | Qaarh | thanks |
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| 13:47.10 | Mikma | Operation Flashpoint rocks |
| 13:57.26 | Qaarh | Mikma, Operation Flashpoint is so oold... |
| 13:57.55 | Tain | I've come to loathe Miravlix. |
| 13:58.31 | Qaarh | Miravlix? |
| 13:58.34 | Qaarh | oh |
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| 14:21.13 | Tain | Would anyone be able to send me a COD mail on Draka? Horde or Alliance. |
| 14:22.58 | Tain | Oh I can send myself mail to another char, that's right. |
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| 14:36.00 | Eraphine|Lab | Lucen , tried PRT in BWL last night - same thing - too much FPS impact. |
| 14:36.08 | Lucen | :( |
| 14:36.16 | Lucen | i have no clue what's going on |
| 14:36.27 | Eraphine|Lab | I know exactly what's going on, it's too much computation |
| 14:36.28 | Lucen | i dropped the metrognome update time to .5 sec |
| 14:36.35 | Eraphine|Lab | in your branch? |
| 14:36.42 | Lucen | haven't updated my branch yet |
| 14:36.48 | Lucen | i probably will |
| 14:37.05 | Lucen | I moved the Start and Stop entries |
| 14:37.08 | Lucen | so when the frame is shown it will start the updates |
| 14:37.14 | Lucen | when it's hidden it will stop them |
| 14:37.41 | Lucen | i tried hiding/showing in combat, etc, and I didn't notice a lot of difference |
| 14:37.50 | Lucen | couple fps maybe, but nothing drastic |
| 14:43.09 | Tain | ckknight: FuBarPlugin.lua:1583: attempt to index global `plugin' (a nil value) |
| 14:46.16 | CIA-13 | 03lucen 07Lucen * r1092 10PerfectRaidTargets/ (Core.lua MetrognomeLib/MetrognomeLib.lua TargetFrame.lua): |
| 14:46.16 | CIA-13 | PerfectRaidTargets (branches): |
| 14:46.16 | CIA-13 | - Updated MetrognomeLib |
| 14:46.16 | CIA-13 | - Modified Start/Stop of metro updates to .5 sec and switch them to start on Show and stop on Hide |
| 14:46.28 | Lucen | there ya go Eraphine|Lab |
| 14:47.11 | Lucen | the .5 sec update makes the "Hover" a bit slow, but it works |
| 14:55.41 | Tain | FuBarPlugin.lua:1583: attempt to index global `plugin' (a nil value) |
| 14:55.42 | Tain | FuBarPlugin.lua:1776: attempt to call global `cleanDefaults' (a nil value) |
| 14:59.52 | Eraphine|Lab | "hover" ? |
| 15:00.42 | Lucen | yeah..if an MT is set and they have a target, if you hover over the mob name it will show the mt name |
| 15:00.50 | Lucen | that switch is a little slow |
| 15:03.11 | CIA-13 | 03tain * r1093 10AH_MailCollect/ (AH_MailCollect.lua AH_MailCollectLocals.lua): AH_MailCollect - Fix for nil values error on standby. |
| 15:03.23 | CIA-13 | 03tain * r1094 10CommandHistory/CommandHistory.lua: Removed lookup table from saving to savevars, creating dynamically each load. |
| 15:04.23 | *** part/#wowace Cairenn|sleep (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
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| 15:13.05 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
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| 15:21.36 | Cairenn | morning all |
| 15:21.46 | Lucen | morning |
| 15:22.59 | Cairenn | Tekkub: "propaganda"? |
| 15:27.52 | Cairenn | so, anyone awake? |
| 15:28.41 | *** topic/#wowace by Cairenn -> |wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | Understanding is a three edged sword. Your side, their side, and the truth. |
| 15:29.50 | Lucen | oo..good quote |
| 15:34.58 | Tain | Awake is overrated. |
| 15:35.25 | Cairenn | I'd have to agree with that one Tain |
| 15:35.40 | Cairenn | I'm just wondering if anyone remembers the necessary commands to ban someone |
| 15:35.50 | Stylpe | So, can anyone explain why SetText isn't working for me? I'm making KIC use FuBar |
| 15:36.57 | Stylpe | It worked before I downloaded the latest FuBar, but it doesn't work now, yet all the other FuBar modules work fine |
| 15:37.59 | Stylpe | I wish ckknight was here =( |
| 15:38.47 | Tain | I just get errors with the latest. |
| 15:39.37 | Stylpe | bum =( |
| 15:40.58 | Stylpe | Guess I'll have to wait for ckknight |
| 15:46.53 | Tain | hahah Robin Williams about George W. "Every time I see him standing next to Tony Blair I want to put up a telethon number." |
| 15:50.55 | *** join/#wowace [MoonWolf] (n=moonwolf@f176182.upc-f.chello.nl) |
| 15:50.55 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [MoonWolf]] by ChanServ |
| 15:54.32 | [MoonWolf] | Cairenn, àre you there ? |
| 15:54.39 | Cairenn | [MoonWolf]: I am |
| 15:55.03 | [MoonWolf] | I have a small suggestion/request for dolby. |
| 15:55.35 | [MoonWolf] | Can the New&updated box found in the author portals be shown on the homepage when i am logged in. |
| 15:55.59 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18 :) |
| 15:56.27 | [MoonWolf] | you are ofcourse correct |
| 15:56.36 | [MoonWolf] | *makes a topic* |
| 15:57.13 | Cairenn | by the way, when I do that it isn't that I'm brushing you guys off, it's that I'm making sure I don't forget to pass the suggestion along |
| 15:57.24 | [MoonWolf] | okay. |
| 15:58.17 | Cairenn | I'd rather not rely on my faulty memory |
| 15:58.58 | [MoonWolf] | Did you pick up on what happend on the curse thread and NeT > netcurse ? |
| 15:59.31 | Cairenn | aye |
| 15:59.55 | Cairenn | what a debacle that was |
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| 16:00.41 | [MoonWolf] | Yeah. At least nothing bad came out of it. Well curse lost a moderator thats not exactly positve. |
| 16:00.52 | Cairenn | yeah, that rather sucked =/ |
| 16:01.02 | Tain | It's a risky job. |
| 16:01.08 | [MoonWolf] | wow... that was an extreem coincidence. |
| 16:01.13 | [MoonWolf] | welcome SilverShadow[CU] |
| 16:01.57 | Cairenn | I think the entire thing was a complete mess |
| 16:02.00 | SilverShadow[CU] | yea.. i'm not exactly happy about the whole situation. but.. se la vi |
| 16:02.16 | Tain | I blame society. |
| 16:02.17 | Cairenn | and it's really a shame |
| 16:02.35 | netcurse | se la vi ? |
| 16:02.39 | netcurse | that s american ? |
| 16:02.39 | Cairenn | SilverShadow[CU]: I want to apologize for anything I did that added fuel to the fire, that wasn't my intent |
| 16:02.40 | netcurse | lol |
| 16:02.52 | Cairenn | ah, you're awake now netcurse |
| 16:02.59 | Cairenn | then I'll make the apology to you, as well |
| 16:03.03 | netcurse | that s a very bad spelling of that s life |
| 16:03.03 | SilverShadow[CU] | he's been getting me on IRC.. after months of trying |
| 16:03.06 | netcurse | in french |
| 16:03.20 | Cairenn | isn't is ce la vie? |
| 16:03.22 | SilverShadow[CU] | I'm probably mispelling it. howis it really spelled net? |
| 16:03.23 | netcurse | Guess what is done is done :) |
| 16:03.41 | Tain | c'est la vie, actually |
| 16:03.43 | netcurse | we say c´est la vie |
| 16:03.46 | Cairenn | errr, yeah |
| 16:04.05 | SilverShadow[CU] | I can barely spell english.. don't expect me to spell french any better. =^_^= |
| 16:04.32 | [MoonWolf] | and what nationality are you then ? |
| 16:04.45 | SilverShadow[CU] | Anyway, no worries Cairenn.. it was mostly a lot of miscomunication. |
| 16:05.07 | SilverShadow[CU] | hence why i can't spell english very well. heh |
| 16:05.36 | [MoonWolf] | None of use ace people are happy with what happend either. |
| 16:06.41 | Cairenn | I don't think *anyone* is happy with what went down |
| 16:06.54 | Cairenn | it looks bad for everyone involved |
| 16:06.56 | Tain | I think a nice compromise would be having Darjk drawn and quartered. |
| 16:07.08 | SilverShadow[CU] | This was really the first time I had heard of -anyone- having any problems with the curse staff. to say it took me by suprise is an understatement. |
| 16:07.24 | Cairenn | well, that's the unfortunate thing, he let his emotions rule him |
| 16:07.43 | [MoonWolf] | Well, nobody had a problem with the curse staff before this that I am AWARE off. |
| 16:07.43 | Cairenn | you have to stay dispassionate when you are moderating |
| 16:08.05 | Cairenn | I've *never* had a problem with the Curse staff, hell, I consider you guys friends |
| 16:08.15 | SilverShadow[CU] | Well, we're also dealing with a much younger crowd... up till now he's been a great guy, very helpful. |
| 16:08.18 | Cairenn | some of your *users* can be annoying by times, but not the staff |
| 16:08.27 | [MoonWolf] | curse visistors/users is a different matter. but im sure you are aware of that. |
| 16:08.31 | SilverShadow[CU] | Oh don't get me started on users.. >_< |
| 16:08.40 | Tain | SilverShadow the larger problem people have, as a whole, is not the moderators themselves, but the fact that there is a very significant lack of moderation in comments to addons. |
| 16:08.46 | Cairenn | as I said though, it's just a real shame the way the whole thing went down |
| 16:09.05 | Cairenn | SilverShadow[CU]: heh, I know, you and I have had this conversation before |
| 16:09.15 | Cairenn | heck, I think we even got into it over dinner at BlizzCon |
| 16:09.39 | SilverShadow[CU] | Hrm. You know.. need to get a 'report' feature for comments. Right now it's huge to try and keep up with everything, and not everyoe realizes then can PM the admins. |
| 16:09.50 | SilverShadow[CU] | I can't WAIT for the new site to be up. it's SOO sweet. |
| 16:10.13 | Cairenn | so can the "competition" get a sneak peek? ;) |
| 16:10.13 | netcurse | authors will have the mod right on their comment starting the 7 may anyway |
| 16:10.14 | [MoonWolf] | its is, net has been giving us some sneak peeks. |
| 16:10.43 | [MoonWolf] | its way better simply because of the restyling. |
| 16:10.47 | Cairenn | if you'd rather not, I understand |
| 16:11.12 | SilverShadow[CU] | the reason why it's taken so long is that they have literally re-written the entire site from the ground up. |
| 16:11.57 | Wobin_ | From what I've seen, it appears much easier on the eyes |
| 16:12.15 | Tain | Is it going to be the Angelina Jolie of websites? |
| 16:12.27 | haste | Lucen: even two months after I changed the name... a user complains :< |
| 16:12.40 | [MoonWolf] | well i wouldnt wat to call it the angeline jolie of websites. |
| 16:12.42 | SilverShadow[CU] | that it is. along with soo many more features and functions. the current site is still just what was supposed to be a guild site. this one is made specifically to handle the traffic and features required for a huge addon database. |
| 16:12.48 | Wobin_ | Tain: What... with really really big lips? |
| 16:12.58 | Tain | I like lips. |
| 16:12.59 | Cairenn | netcurse, SilverShadow[CU]: since you guys are here right now ... you know, we *really* need to collaborate on something that will allow authors to upload to all sites, users to download from all sites |
| 16:13.02 | haste | "I have two of your unit frame, what have I done wrong?" |
| 16:13.11 | Lucen | haste: I haven't had anyone complain yet..hehe. I never released on anything but the ace forums though |
| 16:13.21 | Wobin_ | SilverShadow[CU]: Yeah, I assumed that the majority of problems with Curse was due to the fact that it wasn't actually designed to be an addon site originally |
| 16:14.12 | SilverShadow[CU] | Wobin, that's the core of it right there. But now.. Oooo..so shiney and nice. I've been having fun playing with the beta run. |
| 16:14.26 | Tain | It was originally a porn site right? |
| 16:14.27 | Wobin_ | hehe =) |
| 16:14.52 | SilverShadow[CU] | Cairenn, not sure how that would work out. first let us get our new site up then we can talk about something like that. we've got our hands full at the moment. |
| 16:15.00 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 16:15.14 | Cairenn | anyway, I need to run ... later all |
| 16:15.25 | Lucen | cya cairenn |
| 16:15.41 | Tain | Bye Cairenn |
| 16:16.12 | [MoonWolf] | damnit, did someone tell her of what zeeg has been doing ? |
| 16:16.21 | haste | Lucen: I only have them on our guild forum and my website :p |
| 16:16.28 | SilverShadow[CU] | Zeeg? that name sounds familar... |
| 16:16.33 | [MoonWolf] | wowguru |
| 16:16.40 | SilverShadow[CU] | Ahh. |
| 16:17.10 | [MoonWolf] | wowguru is in some way the exact reverse of curse |
| 16:17.15 | [MoonWolf] | we dont mind its users |
| 16:17.18 | Lucen | haste: hahaha...you're just more popular than I am :P |
| 16:17.19 | [MoonWolf] | we hate the management. |
| 16:17.25 | SilverShadow[CU] | heh. |
| 16:17.43 | Tain | I hate the users. |
| 16:17.53 | haste | Lucen: I refuse to believe so, it's just that my user-database is one level less smart. |
| 16:17.54 | SilverShadow[CU] | I haven't been over there much, but i want to say i've seen him poking over around at curse lately. |
| 16:18.11 | haste | that came out wrong :< |
| 16:18.27 | SilverShadow[CU] | I'm really suprised. it's been almost a week since i've gotten a "How do i install a mod" IM.. |
| 16:18.27 | Lucen | hahaha..i still understood it |
| 16:18.36 | [MoonWolf] | doesnt really matter, what matters is that he was being an ass and insulting people and their family while those people were only trying to have a normal discussion. |
| 16:18.42 | haste | good :D |
| 16:19.03 | SilverShadow[CU] | Wow... that's aweful. was this in IRC or in forums? |
| 16:19.25 | [MoonWolf] | #wowi-lounge... thats Cairenn her channel. |
| 16:19.40 | [MoonWolf] | I'll tell her about it later. |
| 16:19.49 | Tain | Not to mention being a racist. |
| 16:20.02 | SilverShadow[CU] | That's really sad. |
| 16:20.23 | haste | talking about zeeg now? |
| 16:20.39 | [MoonWolf] | yeah, lelts drop that subject now too. |
| 16:20.41 | Wobin_ | Feh, he was literally "I don't care about the rules of this channel, I'll ignore them and insult anyone I want" |
| 16:20.55 | Wobin_ | Such an arse =P |
| 16:26.23 | haste | time to test something! |
| 16:26.34 | haste | I'll guess something will crash now. |
| 16:26.42 | SilverShadow[CU] | heh |
| 16:27.19 | haste | ehey, it worked. |
| 16:28.44 | Wobin_ | haste +2% |
| 16:28.46 | haste | damn, it partly worked |
| 16:28.58 | haste | my opengl died =\ |
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| 17:13.17 | groll | anyone got any clue to this? http://wow.pastebin.com/687314 |
| 17:13.31 | groll | i took the one that did work and the ones the dont is just a few of them |
| 17:14.11 | groll | entire file is here http://wow.pastebin.com/687316 |
| 17:16.21 | hyperChipmunk | mornin', froods |
| 17:16.27 | groll | hello |
| 17:16.45 | groll | hyperChipmunk could you perhaps take a quick look at what i posted above? |
| 17:18.54 | hyperChipmunk | so move it to the bottom? >8) |
| 17:19.02 | groll | huh? |
| 17:19.30 | groll | it's keybindings, i'm remaking another addon to fit shammans |
| 17:19.37 | hyperChipmunk | you say all the ones below that one don't work |
| 17:19.45 | groll | yes |
| 17:20.00 | groll | there is only one spell that works so far but i cant figure out why as it should cast them anyway |
| 17:20.06 | groll | entire file is here http://wow.pastebin.com/687316 |
| 17:20.13 | groll | that is the entire keybinding file |
| 17:21.32 | hyperChipmunk | put ranks on 'em |
| 17:21.32 | hyperChipmunk | NS doesn't have names, right? |
| 17:21.33 | groll | shouldnt matter |
| 17:21.41 | hyperChipmunk | s/names/ranks/ |
| 17:21.42 | groll | no rank on ns no |
| 17:22.10 | groll | but as i understood it it should choose the highest rank if none is provided |
| 17:22.49 | hyperChipmunk | well put a rank in and see if it changes while I look further |
| 17:22.58 | groll | oke hehe :P |
| 17:25.07 | hyperChipmunk | and what do you mean by 'they don't work' |
| 17:25.17 | hyperChipmunk | do the keybindings show up and the spells just don't cast? |
| 17:25.24 | hyperChipmunk | or do the keybindings not show up at all |
| 17:26.24 | groll | spells dont cast |
| 17:26.30 | groll | they show up in the keybindings though |
| 17:26.57 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 17:27.05 | hyperChipmunk | do you have the spells on your bar? |
| 17:27.18 | groll | yep but that's what i dont want |
| 17:27.49 | hyperChipmunk | seems I recall that not being possible; but maybe I'm thinking of something else |
| 17:28.03 | hyperChipmunk | and adding in ranks doesn't work? |
| 17:28.05 | groll | well the addon i rewrite is doin just that |
| 17:28.07 | Tain | Can you even do CastSpellByName just in bindings? I've never seen it, but I also never tried. |
| 17:28.09 | groll | adding ranks now |
| 17:28.31 | hyperChipmunk | shift-click your spellbook for the correct format |
| 17:28.44 | hyperChipmunk | I seem to recall there being no space between the name and the (Rank n) |
| 17:28.47 | hyperChipmunk | or something weird |
| 17:30.17 | hyperChipmunk | ItemRack does it for items, I think |
| 17:30.43 | [MoonWolf] | http://dat.4chan.org/s/src/1146199903402.jpg <- this is your brain on pot SFW |
| 17:31.54 | groll | ok with ranks the darn thing works |
| 17:31.57 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 17:31.58 | groll | but arf why? |
| 17:32.04 | Wobin_ | No that is your pot on brain =P |
| 17:32.15 | *** join/#wowace haste (n=haste@host-81-191-131-80.bluecom.no) |
| 17:32.17 | groll | it shouldnt need ranks if i understood |
| 17:32.18 | hyperChipmunk | heck i duno |
| 17:32.26 | hyperChipmunk | I just solve problems, I don't explain 'em |
| 17:32.30 | groll | haha :d |
| 17:32.32 | groll | well tahnks |
| 17:32.35 | groll | thanks even |
| 17:33.32 | haste | someone remind me to put up a screen with irssi at around 23:00 |
| 17:33.44 | groll | hmm is there someway to find out what the highest rank of a spell someone has is? and then tell my binding to use that one? |
| 17:36.02 | hyperChipmunk | maybe the highest-rank thing only works when used with /cast |
| 17:36.51 | groll | hmm how do you mean?` |
| 17:37.32 | hyperChipmunk | like in macros, you can use /cast Raptor Strike instead of /script CastSpellByName("Raptor Strike") |
| 17:37.37 | kergoth | foo. |
| 17:37.53 | hyperChipmunk | mornin' kergo |
| 17:37.56 | groll | hmmm |
| 17:38.02 | kergoth | ~mornings |
| 17:38.04 | purl | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 17:38.23 | hyperChipmunk | 13:37 [netcurse(n=net@dslb-088-064-176-025.pools.arcor-ip.net)] Hello there, |
| 17:38.25 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 17:38.25 | haste | hello |
| 17:38.57 | haste | hyperChipmunk: add six hours and you have my timezone :( |
| 17:39.00 | hyperChipmunk | your script is bugged, man =) |
| 17:39.07 | hyperChipmunk | CST? |
| 17:39.14 | hyperChipmunk | er, CET? |
| 17:39.21 | hyperChipmunk | or whatever the heck it is |
| 17:39.39 | haste | yeh |
| 17:39.45 | haste | CET = GMT+1 |
| 17:40.49 | groll | hmm oke now i got a "nil value" error instead hmm |
| 17:41.25 | hyperChipmunk | that means you are stupid and must perish |
| 17:41.30 | groll | haha i guess :D |
| 17:41.56 | hyperChipmunk | "nil value" refers to your societal worth |
| 17:42.36 | haste | evil |
| 17:42.51 | groll | hyperChipmunk your so kind :P |
| 17:43.51 | haste | hmmm |
| 17:43.53 | haste | ~candy |
| 17:44.01 | purl | from memory, candy is a seven years drawn girl who has the emotional capabilities of a 16 years old she-fish and the social skills of a wall |
| 17:45.17 | haste | ~candy haste |
| 17:46.44 | groll | bah soon giving up for tonight |
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| 17:54.11 | Qaarh | I hate it when that happens.. |
| 17:54.19 | Qaarh | I had a mob by a percent.. |
| 17:54.29 | Qaarh | heh |
| 18:01.57 | Wobin_ | I've been getting a lot of mutual kills with my rogue =P |
| 18:02.27 | Wobin_ | Of course, I've been grinding mobs +2 levels... which is a first for me =P Usually with other classes, I grind -2 mobs =P |
| 18:02.34 | Qaarh | hehe |
| 18:02.57 | Qaarh | as a shammy, I usually try +2 or +3.. it works fairly well |
| 18:02.59 | Wobin_ | And then I run into a druid, who's sucessfully tanking campfulls of level 23 gnolls at level 19 |
| 18:03.12 | Qaarh | hehe |
| 18:03.14 | Wobin_ | It's enough to make a rogue cry =P |
| 18:03.17 | Wobin_ | Nerf druids! |
| 18:03.53 | packingChipmunk | SilverShadow[CU]: lol, not what you were hoping for, eh? >8) |
| 18:04.05 | Wobin_ | A hunter and I were grouped with the druid, and was telling one another "My god, she's suicidal..." <3 minutes later> "...nerf =P" |
| 18:04.35 | SilverShadow[CU] | just SilverShadow[Curse] since not everyone get's that [CU] is curse. |
| 18:04.47 | SilverShadow[CU] | i'm actualy somewhat of a IRC noob... |
| 18:04.54 | packingChipmunk | >8) |
| 18:05.02 | haste | ~box |
| 18:05.03 | purl | i heard box is that on which debian is housed |
| 18:05.04 | packingChipmunk | so you're not a cur? |
| 18:05.11 | SilverShadow[CU] | heheh |
| 18:09.10 | packingChipmunk | ~dict cur |
| 18:09.35 | packingChipmunk | purl, you're so smart |
| 18:09.42 | packingChipmunk | ~botsnack |
| 18:09.42 | purl | :), packingChipmunk |
| 18:10.11 | SilverShadow | =^_^= |
| 18:10.48 | SilverShadow | so i guess i'm just a female cur.. and that would be.. *chuckles* |
| 18:11.03 | packingChipmunk | you and Cairenn both |
| 18:13.45 | SilverShadow | you're lucky she's afk. hehe |
| 18:14.09 | [MoonWolf] | you are never sure Cairenn|afk is REALLY afk |
| 18:14.18 | id` | :p |
| 18:15.02 | packingChipmunk | rofl the dude actually sent Tekkub $50 |
| 18:15.03 | SilverShadow | very true |
| 18:15.13 | SilverShadow | who what? |
| 18:15.46 | [MoonWolf] | someone bribed tekkub to work on ItemizedDeductions .... |
| 18:15.54 | SilverShadow | hahaha |
| 18:15.57 | haste | wtf? |
| 18:16.42 | id` | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.42 | id` | cool |
| 18:16.51 | haste | what does it do btw |
| 18:17.01 | id` | the question is however, wtf is ItemizedDeductions |
| 18:17.37 | haste | "So basically this will find whichever item is cheapest from your inventory and allow you to destroy it." |
| 18:17.44 | haste | is what rowne said |
| 18:17.55 | packingChipmunk | 00:52 <@Cairenn> yeah, I know, I'm a bitch |
| 18:18.04 | id` | isnt that Rowne's "Zoot" addon? |
| 18:18.28 | *** join/#wowace ag` (i=Default@0x50c4844b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk) |
| 18:18.28 | packingChipmunk | wish he'd paid him to work on something that was really useful |
| 18:18.46 | Lucen | i think it keeps track of how much the stuff in your bags is worth |
| 18:18.58 | Lucen | side affect being you'll know what do get rid of |
| 18:18.58 | packingChipmunk | unless he's a gold farmer |
| 18:19.11 | packingChipmunk | might be really useful to them =) |
| 18:19.30 | packingChipmunk | I bet it is; some dude speaking for a conglomerate of goldfarmers |
| 18:19.42 | Lucen | haha |
| 18:20.01 | haste | id`: well, the description says: This is basically like ItemizedDeductions but ... |
| 18:20.03 | packingChipmunk | they sold off one of their grade-a clicking Tiwanese children to pay for it |
| 18:20.06 | haste | on zoot :p |
| 18:20.08 | id` | haste: :p |
| 18:20.26 | haste | and it was the second hit on google |
| 18:21.11 | Tem|Sleep | the funny part of the that guy paying Tek is that Tek has already converted ID over to FuBar and I *think* it's "finished" |
| 18:21.15 | Tem|Sleep | it's over on the SVN |
| 18:21.23 | packingChipmunk | hehe |
| 18:21.27 | haste | such a bribe |
| 18:21.29 | packingChipmunk | morning Teminator |
| 18:21.41 | Tem | I am the teminator |
| 18:21.43 | haste | *1980s flashbacks* |
| 18:21.55 | Tem | I couldn't help that... |
| 18:22.48 | Tem | You guys see the thread where the guy was writing a way to add a few lines to your chat cmd table to created a unified gui for all the addons that supported it? |
| 18:22.58 | Tem | (this isn't news) |
| 18:23.13 | haste | AceOptions? |
| 18:23.19 | Tem | yeah |
| 18:23.26 | packingChipmunk | yea, a long time ago |
| 18:23.28 | Tem | Qzot is (or was) writing something like that as well just not specifically for Ace addons |
| 18:23.40 | packingChipmunk | did it ever actually get off the ground? |
| 18:23.43 | Tem | his working title was "THE CONFIGURATOR" |
| 18:23.48 | packingChipmunk | $$ |
| 18:24.09 | Wobin_ | um |
| 18:24.23 | Wobin_ | Isn't "So basically this will find whichever item is cheapest from your inventory and allow you to destroy it." |
| 18:24.26 | Wobin_ | What Zoot does? |
| 18:24.34 | Wobin_ | Cause I'm using it.... |
| 18:24.49 | Tem | I'm not entirely sure |
| 18:24.58 | Tem | I never like that type of addon |
| 18:25.03 | Tem | I'm too much of a packrat |
| 18:25.23 | Wobin_ | As am I, but as a rogue and an engineer, bagspace is at a premium |
| 18:25.29 | Tain | They come in handy when you want to fight a lot and not go back to town much. |
| 18:25.35 | Tem | Wobin_: me too |
| 18:25.36 | haste | Wobin_: look up a little |
| 18:25.46 | packingChipmunk | yea, engineer/hunter here =P |
| 18:25.51 | haste | "So basically this will find whichever item is cheapest from your inventory and allow you to destroy it. It has a very nice display for those items and it's as clean as it could be. It also has keybindings to speed up the process. Personally I like using Control+Z to check and then Control+Alt+Shift+Z to destroy." |
| 18:26.26 | Wobin_ | oh =) |
| 18:26.34 | Wobin_ | Don't mind me babbling, it's late =) |
| 18:26.34 | packingChipmunk | i had to destroy a trinket to loot giantstalker legs in mc last night =P |
| 18:26.36 | haste | google is your friend :D |
| 18:26.52 | haste | packingChipmunk: why not just kill of a couple of arrows or the HS :p |
| 18:26.53 | Wobin_ | I'm figuring out to update MrPlow =P |
| 18:27.03 | packingChipmunk | bullets in a bullet pouch |
| 18:27.07 | packingChipmunk | you can't put anything else in there |
| 18:27.14 | Wobin_ | Since you get a free port home in an instance |
| 18:27.17 | packingChipmunk | hearthstone was already deleted =P |
| 18:27.21 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 18:27.26 | ag` | Hay Tekkub |
| 18:27.32 | haste | how.. are... you .. able to not have inv space :p ? |
| 18:27.39 | haste | and btw! |
| 18:27.43 | haste | np: Röyksopp - Circuit Breaker [5:44] |
| 18:27.46 | Wobin_ | My inventory is often filled with suits of stuff |
| 18:27.48 | haste | I'm addicted to that song :o |
| 18:28.05 | Wobin_ | I like BagBoy's autotrash |
| 18:28.12 | packingChipmunk | it was just easier to destroy that and make it another one after; I don't need ice reflection in MC =) |
| 18:28.20 | Wobin_ | But since I'm grinding on murlocs, I think I'll grab the autoclam addon |
| 18:28.40 | packingChipmunk | that autoclam addon is awesome |
| 18:28.48 | packingChipmunk | i friggin hate clams |
| 18:29.03 | packingChipmunk | but that's cuz I usually don't have the inventory space to deal with 'em |
| 18:29.14 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 18:29.19 | packingChipmunk | and no addon will help with that |
| 18:29.24 | Wobin_ | I wish you could loot the clam into the same space the clam was in |
| 18:29.31 | packingChipmunk | exactly |
| 18:31.33 | Wobin_ | And yay, he uses linkid =P |
| 18:31.35 | Wobin_ | Thank god =P |
| 18:31.52 | Wobin_ | Or at least I think he does |
| 18:33.42 | Wobin_ | hrm |
| 18:33.51 | Wobin_ | He could probably not even trigger on bag_update |
| 18:33.58 | Wobin_ | Loot_closed would do the trick for me... |
| 18:34.13 | Wobin_ | Since he already deals with trade/bank/mail close |
| 18:38.21 | Tem | crap! |
| 18:38.26 | Tem | I'm gonna be late for class |
| 18:55.15 | Qaarh | speaking of inventory.. anyone know of a good inventory mod? I hate having to sort my bags all the time. I've been using eng_inventory for a while, but it's not been updated in a while.. |
| 18:58.38 | Wobin_ | hehe http://photobucket.com/albums/v28/kierthos/HP_snakes-on-a-plane.gif |
| 18:58.50 | Wobin_ | Mr Plow! =) |
| 18:59.33 | Qaarh | hmm Mr Plow? never tried that one. What's it do? |
| 19:00.17 | Wobin_ | It stacks, plows and sorts your inventory |
| 19:00.25 | Wobin_ | and bank |
| 19:00.38 | Qaarh | interesting |
| 19:00.45 | Wobin_ | and the SVN version also can move items from your bags to your bank |
| 19:00.53 | Qaarh | right, I'd grab it from the SVN |
| 19:00.56 | Lucen | i'm tempted to try out mr plow just for the cool messages..hehe |
| 19:01.04 | ag` | does it work with all in one bags? |
| 19:01.05 | Lucen | i'm horribly anal about what goes where in my bags though |
| 19:01.08 | Wobin_ | It's designed for the non-eng-inv user =) |
| 19:01.10 | Qaarh | has it got a nice UI for the bags, or should I get something else for that? |
| 19:01.10 | Wobin_ | absolutely |
| 19:01.13 | Wobin_ | no ui whatsoever |
| 19:01.21 | Wobin_ | I'd suggest onebag or bagnon |
| 19:01.25 | Qaarh | ok, might go bagnon then |
| 19:01.42 | ag` | what's the difference between bagnon and onebag? I am currently using onebag. |
| 19:01.44 | Qaarh | or onebag, doesn't matter to me hehe |
| 19:01.55 | Wobin_ | Not too much that I've noticed... |
| 19:02.21 | Wobin_ | I think Bagnon has been updated more recently... but on the other hand, onebag still works without a problem =) |
| 19:02.41 | Wobin_ | I'll really need to get DEbugFu or something to see the memoryusage difference |
| 19:03.36 | Qaarh | DebugFu only works for FuBar plugins from what I know |
| 19:03.53 | Wobin_ | ah |
| 19:04.08 | Qaarh | ok, going to give MrPlow a chance here :) |
| 19:05.20 | Qaarh | note to self.. copy folder to addons before trying to load the addon... |
| 19:06.17 | Wobin_ | Get TortoiseSVN, if you're going to use the SVN often, it makes updating mods so much easier |
| 19:06.44 | Qaarh | of course I use TortoiseSVN ;) |
| 19:06.48 | Qaarh | hey, this is cool |
| 19:06.58 | Qaarh | it's tossing things around in my bag heheh |
| 19:07.21 | Qaarh | let's see how it works with my bank |
| 19:07.34 | Wobin_ | you can change the sort order in the actual mrplow.lua itself |
| 19:07.41 | Wobin_ | I'm hopeless at in game gui |
| 19:07.49 | travelingChipmun | hmm |
| 19:07.53 | Wobin_ | movingChipmunk? |
| 19:08.02 | Wobin_ | Now you sound like roadkill =) |
| 19:08.06 | roadChip | O_o |
| 19:08.11 | roadChip | Road Trip |
| 19:08.14 | haste | Wobin_: Do like me, play with CreateFrame, it's fun! |
| 19:08.26 | Wobin_ | haste: hehe I'm really going to have to for MASH =) |
| 19:08.38 | roadChip | later froods; I'll try to keep in touch =) |
| 19:08.41 | Qaarh | hmm, CreateFrame.. what can you do with it? |
| 19:08.45 | haste | I don't know what MASH is |
| 19:08.46 | Wobin_ | Frames! =) |
| 19:08.51 | roadChip | you can create....frames |
| 19:08.54 | Qaarh | right |
| 19:08.55 | Wobin_ | haste: My attempt at a needylist rewrite |
| 19:08.55 | Qaarh | well |
| 19:09.01 | roadChip | no seriously |
| 19:09.03 | haste | Qaarh: PerfectRaid for example is generated with only lua |
| 19:09.17 | Qaarh | does it make it possible to make complete UI's without having to touch XML at all? |
| 19:09.19 | Wobin_ | I really <3 PerfectRaidTargets |
| 19:09.25 | Wobin_ | Almost =) |
| 19:09.29 | ag` | Qaarh, yes |
| 19:09.32 | haste | and my castingbar is made with createframe *grin* |
| 19:09.33 | Wobin_ | I think there's still an issue with tooltips |
| 19:09.37 | Qaarh | hmm |
| 19:09.41 | Lucen | haste: gimme! |
| 19:09.46 | Qaarh | cause I need to make my own actionbar mod |
| 19:09.48 | Wobin_ | haste: Can you make a rogue timer one? |
| 19:09.48 | haste | yeah, but you can always make your own tooltips |
| 19:09.54 | haste | Wobin_: :< |
| 19:09.56 | Qaarh | tablet for tooltips! ;) |
| 19:10.08 | haste | rogue timer one, confusion arises! |
| 19:10.09 | Qaarh | hey, can Mr Plow sort my bank? |
| 19:10.19 | Wobin_ | Qaarh: sure add 'bank' to the end of the command |
| 19:10.21 | haste | Lucen: sure, it's very unfinished :p |
| 19:10.30 | Wobin_ | /mp sort bank |
| 19:10.31 | haste | Lucen: but I guess you can see where I'm going with it |
| 19:10.34 | Wobin_ | or /mp theworks bank |
| 19:10.34 | Qaarh | aha! |
| 19:10.37 | Qaarh | awesome |
| 19:10.52 | Lucen | haste: sweet! i should have time to play with it this weekend too :D |
| 19:11.03 | Wobin_ | haste: One that basically times the ticks visually so you know when you're going to have an energy boost |
| 19:11.07 | Qaarh | he makes me smile :D |
| 19:12.32 | haste | Lucen: http://www.fuxsake.net/filer/WoW/otravi_CastingBar_1.1.0.tar.gz |
| 19:12.41 | Wobin_ | hehe nice sitename =P |
| 19:12.52 | Wobin_ | should have a 4 in front of it though =) |
| 19:12.55 | Lucen | woohoo! there goes the rest of my work day |
| 19:13.16 | haste | http://for.fuxsake.net/ << I let a friend use that |
| 19:13.21 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 19:13.23 | Lucen | haha |
| 19:14.12 | Qaarh | hehe |
| 19:14.51 | Qaarh | ok, noob question.. CreateFrame. How do I get started to work with it? |
| 19:16.46 | *** join/#wowace SilverShadow[CU] (n=silversh@dsl-467.warsaw.kconline.com) |
| 19:16.58 | Lucen | that is some sweet code haste |
| 19:20.07 | haste | hehe, thanks |
| 19:20.37 | haste | tell me if you have time to complete some of the chat commands |
| 19:20.45 | haste | I'm currently jumping around in AQ40 |
| 19:20.49 | Lucen | haha |
| 19:21.11 | Lucen | i won't be able to touch it for a few more hours |
| 19:21.23 | Lucen | but I'll definitly play around with it tonight |
| 19:23.39 | haste | Qaarh: take a look at the fuxsake.net link |
| 19:23.50 | Qaarh | your casting bar, yeah |
| 19:27.06 | Qaarh | There is a tinkle of broken glass and a soft "D'oh!" -- I hope that wasn't one of my health vials.. |
| 19:27.27 | Wobin_ | =) |
| 19:28.11 | Lucen | haha..i love those messages Wobin_ |
| 19:28.46 | kergoth | ag`, compare the ram usage between bagnon+bagnon_core and onebag. the latter is massive for some reason |
| 19:29.19 | Wobin_ | Actually what I'm impressed with is that Shouryuu and Rumbah managed to translate those messages =P |
| 19:29.29 | Wobin_ | kergoth: I really don't know why either |
| 19:29.45 | Wobin_ | turan usually wrote pretty tight code |
| 19:29.58 | kergoth | kael was theorizing that maybe it was naming all of the elements in the xml |
| 19:30.00 | kergoth | but i dunno |
| 19:30.15 | Wobin_ | So to switch to a luaFramed version would cut down? |
| 19:30.45 | Wobin_ | A whole lot of onebag code is cryptic to me anyhow =( |
| 19:31.32 | ag` | kergoth, sorry.. Not native english speaker--latter meanst first or last? :D |
| 19:31.38 | Wobin_ | last |
| 19:31.46 | Wobin_ | 'former' means the first of the examples |
| 19:32.31 | ag` | so I guess I should try out bagnon |
| 19:34.09 | kergoth | ~praise clad|work for miniblizzraid |
| 19:34.11 | purl | All hail clad|work for miniblizzraid! |
| 19:34.59 | Wobin_ | If I could read xml->lua better, I'd make an attempt at redoing onebag |
| 19:38.50 | Qaarh | I'm using Bagnon now |
| 19:38.52 | haste | Wobin_: gogo CreateFrame! |
| 19:38.58 | Qaarh | works smoothly when I use MrPlow :) |
| 19:39.01 | Qaarh | sorting manually though.. no way |
| 19:39.16 | Wobin_ | haste: Hehe =) Can I download your casting bar for code advice? =) |
| 19:40.21 | haste | I don't see the problem with that |
| 19:40.25 | Wobin_ | I <3 Penny Arcade |
| 19:40.25 | Wobin_ | http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2006/20060428.jpg |
| 19:40.37 | haste | I'm one of the share you code types |
| 19:41.37 | haste | haha, PA ftw :D |
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| 19:46.47 | Wobin_ | Can CreateFrame inherit a frame? |
| 19:47.04 | Wobin_ | Mind you, I'm only asking this cause Wowwiki takes so long for me to load =P |
| 19:47.40 | haste | nope :( |
| 19:47.46 | Wobin_ | bah |
| 19:47.49 | Wobin_ | This just in... Waldo married Carmen Sandiego. |
| 19:47.49 | Wobin_ | Nobody found the wedding. |
| 19:47.51 | haste | that is the downside |
| 19:48.13 | kergoth | gar, FuBarPlugin.lua: 1428: attempt to index global `plugin', a nil value |
| 19:48.20 | Wobin_ | (Or Wally, of Where's Wally fame for us non Americans) |
| 19:48.30 | Qaarh | kergoth: get the latest version of FuBar |
| 19:49.17 | kergoth | i just checked it in, thats when this started. |
| 19:49.23 | Tain | You can create your own frame methods that include the things you need and then create other frames that inherit those, but you can't inherit from XML. |
| 19:50.16 | Wobin_ | I'm tempted to upload the tar.gz to Wowi =) |
| 19:50.36 | haste | Wobin_: You can't :( |
| 19:50.37 | Wobin_ | Tain: So you basically have to build it from the ground up if you want to inherit some game xml? |
| 19:50.51 | Wobin_ | (like for example a bagslot) |
| 19:51.07 | Tain | You have to built from the ground up in Lua if you want to use CreateFrame |
| 19:51.20 | kergoth | yeah, its fubar 1.1.1081 thats blowing up for me |
| 19:51.32 | Tain | It's broke for everyone, kergoth. |
| 19:51.34 | Wobin_ | I want a zipping program that can convert between formats |
| 19:51.38 | kergoth | ah, i'll revert |
| 19:51.46 | haste | kergoth: I _think_ you have to change a plugin to self on that line |
| 19:52.04 | Wobin_ | ooh convert |
| 19:52.26 | haste | Wobin_: I think file-roller can |
| 19:52.40 | haste | but I also think that it's *nix only |
| 19:52.53 | Tain | I have enough trouble fixing my own addons, never mind fixing someone else's. |
| 19:53.06 | Wobin_ | woot |
| 19:53.10 | Wobin_ | Winrar can convert to zip |
| 19:53.34 | Tain | I might have actually purchased a license for WinRAR I like it so much. |
| 19:53.50 | haste | I like license :D |
| 19:54.14 | Tain | I tried 7zip, tugzip, all manner of other ones. |
| 19:54.27 | Tain | And I just went back to WinRAR because it does every little thing in a way I like better. |
| 19:55.43 | CIA-13 | 03wobin * r1095 10MrPlow/: MrPlow - added in food to the external PT |
| 19:59.49 | Tain | It would be nice though if websvn could use zip instead of tarballs for addons. |
| 19:59.59 | haste | I like tarballs :O |
| 20:00.28 | Tem | Tain: yes, it would |
| 20:00.44 | Tem | too many windows users are clueless to what a tarball is |
| 20:01.22 | Tain | Yeah, it's just easier for the target audience in this case. |
| 20:03.02 | Tem | hey guys |
| 20:03.07 | Tem | you see the PA from today? |
| 20:03.11 | Tem | they're making fun of the Wii |
| 20:03.12 | Tain | Yeah |
| 20:03.18 | Wobin_ | hehe I linked it above |
| 20:03.51 | Qaarh | that's a new one.. I have money left after paying bills this month |
| 20:03.55 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:04.07 | Qaarh | hey ckknight :) |
| 20:16.18 | Wobin_ | How would I use CreateFrame to create a Button? |
| 20:16.52 | Tem | CreateFrame("Button") |
| 20:16.59 | Wobin_ | That easy, eh? |
| 20:17.06 | Wobin_ | Oh, first argument type |
| 20:17.19 | Wobin_ | I feel silly |
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| 20:20.20 | id` | Wobin_: ^^ |
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| 20:21.47 | Wobin_ | Hehe, according to Kirkburn, Koch will be distributing the Wii all over the UK =P |
| 20:22.02 | Wobin_ | If that's not a headline to blink at, I don't know what is =P |
| 20:22.44 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1096 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - fixed menu hovering bug. |
| 20:23.10 | Wobin_ | okay I'd better sleep. the flu medication I've been taking is telling me subtly that sleep would be of the good |
| 20:23.18 | Wobin_ | I'll get back into this tomorrow =) |
| 20:47.36 | id` | clad|work: you here? |
| 20:47.38 | id` | hm |
| 20:47.39 | id` | work.. |
| 20:50.49 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1097 10TabletLib/ (API.html Lib/TabletLib.lua): TabletLib - removed children argument from category (will cause breakage) |
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| 21:07.33 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 21:07.37 | Codayus | ckknight: bug in fubar |
| 21:07.42 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:08.03 | Codayus | FuBar\FuBarPlugin.lua: 1583: attempt to index global 'plugin` (a nill value) |
| 21:08.14 | haste | change it to self :----D |
| 21:08.23 | haste | (I did say it a little while ago) |
| 21:08.42 | haste | or, that is another line oO |
| 21:09.26 | ckknight | I already fixed that... |
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| 21:15.38 | Cairenn | afternoon |
| 21:16.07 | weab | did moonwolf tell you what fun zeeg was having in your channel last night |
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| 21:16.25 | Cairenn | I saw it |
| 21:16.40 | Cairenn | but thank you |
| 21:16.54 | Stylp3 | ninight all |
| 21:16.59 | Cairenn | night Stylp3 |
| 21:17.02 | weab | that boy needs a banstick |
| 21:17.10 | weab | :P |
| 21:17.46 | CIA-13 | 03neriak * r1098 10FuBar_gfxToggleGUI/ (FuBar_gfxToggleGUI.toc gfxToggleGUI.lua): gfxtToggleGUI: changed date, fixed locals, set update time to 1.0 secs |
| 21:18.45 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1099 10FuBar/FuBarPlugin.lua: FuBar - updated for procedural tooltips. |
| 21:19.02 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1100 10FuBar_ClockFu/ClockFu.lua: FuBar_ClockFu - updated for procedural tooltips. |
| 21:19.06 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1102 10FuBar_DebugFu/DebugFu.lua: FuBar_DebugFu - updated for procedural tooltips. |
| 21:19.21 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1103 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFu.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu - updated for procedural tooltips. |
| 21:19.28 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1104 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/ExperienceFu.lua: FuBar_ExperienceFu - updated for procedural tooltips. |
| 21:19.35 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1105 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua: FuBar_HonorFu - updated for procedural tooltips. |
| 21:19.46 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1106 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFu.lua: FuBar_LocationFu - updated for procedural tooltips. |
| 21:19.57 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1107 10FuBar_MicroMenuFu/MicroMenuFu.lua: FuBar_MicroMenuFu - updated for procedural tooltips. |
| 21:20.12 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1108 10FuBar_MoneyFu/MoneyFu.lua: FuBar_MoneyFu - updated for procedural tooltips. |
| 21:20.21 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1109 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - updated for procedural tooltips. |
| 21:20.31 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1110 10FuBar_RestFu/RestFu.lua: FuBar_RestFu - updated for procedural tooltips. |
| 21:20.38 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1111 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua: FuBar_TopScoreFu - updated for procedural tooltips. |
| 21:20.39 | ckknight | spam. |
| 21:20.42 | ckknight | all done |
| 21:20.45 | ckknight | hey, 1111 |
| 21:21.08 | ckknight | hey Cairenn |
| 21:21.10 | Tem | procudural tooltips? |
| 21:21.16 | Cairenn | hey ckknight |
| 21:21.22 | ckknight | instead of tiered, Tem |
| 21:21.32 | Tem | tiered? |
| 21:21.35 | ckknight | it's more efficient if I do it in a procedural fashion |
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| 21:22.16 | ckknight | for tiered, I put the children lines inside a function in a children argument |
| 21:22.27 | ckknight | this meant that a function was being created for every category, every update |
| 21:22.56 | ckknight | with procedural, you request a category, then add lines to it afterwards |
| 21:23.27 | ckknight | e.g. tablet:AddCategory():AddLine(), instead of tablet:AddCategory('children', function() tablet:AddLine() end) |
| 21:24.24 | id` | Im looking for a tip addon |
| 21:25.41 | id` | it has to be able to move my tip the the mouse |
| 21:25.41 | id` | and be better then the default tips |
| 21:25.41 | id` | and not have 12192341234 options |
| 21:25.42 | id` | like tipbuddy |
| 21:25.42 | kergoth | try aftt_extreme |
| 21:25.42 | kergoth | thats what i'm using atm |
| 21:26.28 | Qaarh | I liked aftt_extreme, but I use addons that add info to the tooltip (auctioneer for example. yes, I know it's bloated, but it works) |
| 21:26.43 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:26.44 | haste | id`: AF_Tooltip mini |
| 21:26.51 | kergoth | Qaarh, that stuff works just fine. |
| 21:27.04 | Qaarh | kergoth it doesn't add to that tooltip, it adds to the default one |
| 21:27.07 | kergoth | aftte doesnt do much to the non-unit tooltips, just positioning and such |
| 21:27.15 | Qaarh | hmm |
| 21:27.16 | kergoth | its tooltip is used for units. |
| 21:27.22 | kergoth | again, aftte works just fine with those addons |
| 21:27.26 | kergoth | i use auctioneer with it every day |
| 21:27.39 | Qaarh | well... let me switch and check then *chuckle* |
| 21:27.46 | id` | hehe |
| 21:28.29 | id` | haste: i cant find mini |
| 21:28.50 | CIA-13 | 03kergoth 07Cladhaire * r1112 10Ace/ (. AceChatCmd.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 21:28.50 | CIA-13 | r20737@crydee (orig r695): cladhaire | 2006-04-23 08:01:31 -0700 |
| 21:28.50 | CIA-13 | Ace: |
| 21:28.51 | CIA-13 | * Added a PASS option to the chat command definition. When its true on the same |
| 21:28.51 | CIA-13 | level as a method specification, the last level OPTION will be passed as the |
| 21:28.51 | CIA-13 | first argument, with the args being passed as the second argument. Should make |
| 21:28.55 | CIA-13 | no change to addons that don't use the new option. |
| 21:29.23 | id` | i went back to visor action buttons |
| 21:29.30 | id` | from bongos.. |
| 21:29.37 | haste | id`: try curse, and surch for mini |
| 21:29.40 | CIA-13 | 03kergoth 07Kaelten * r1113 10Ace/ (77 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 21:29.40 | CIA-13 | r19933@crydee (orig r255): cladhaire | 2006-04-16 19:17:21 -0700 |
| 21:29.40 | CIA-13 | Changes branches to branches/addon/author |
| 21:29.40 | CIA-13 | r20015@crydee (orig r337): cladhaire | 2006-04-17 14:02:50 -0700 |
| 21:29.40 | CIA-13 | Ace: Updated AceLibStub to throw out any instance that doesn't have GetLibraryVersion. |
| 21:29.41 | CIA-13 | r20647@crydee (orig r611): kergoth | 2006-04-22 20:01:18 -0700 |
| 21:29.44 | haste | todays number one typo! |
| 21:29.45 | CIA-13 | Create a branch of Ace to check in the object model. |
| 21:29.47 | haste | "surch" |
| 21:30.00 | id` | hehe |
| 21:30.10 | id` | why does cua mention two names? |
| 21:30.14 | id` | cia* |
| 21:31.28 | haste | first one: Commit by kergoth on Cladhaire :: r1112 Ace/ (. AceChatCmd.lua): |
| 21:31.41 | Qaarh | hey, it works quite well with auctioneer.. I thought I had to enable the default tooltip for that to work :) Thanks kergoth :) |
| 21:32.54 | CIA-13 | 03kergoth 07Kergoth * r1114 10Ace/AceOO/obj.lua: Add __call syntax sugar to the object model. Up next: optimizing temporary table usage, mostly via a fixed number of arguments. |
| 21:33.29 | kergoth | hm, thats odd |
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| 21:34.43 | kergoth | why would it have committed anything on those other branches? i'm confused |
| 21:35.19 | haste | I blame the externals spam that made you unable to see the mistake before it happened! |
| 21:35.38 | Neriak | ckknight: heya Boss, are you there? |
| 21:35.43 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:35.57 | Neriak | hm when do you update FuBar? |
| 21:36.11 | ckknight | when I fix things |
| 21:36.22 | Neriak | people are telling me my addons won't work, but it's 1.1.1081 causing troubles :-/ |
| 21:36.29 | Neriak | good point ;) |
| 21:36.54 | kergoth | ahh, svk did merges. it knows that the cladhaire branch was copied from the trunk |
| 21:37.00 | Neriak | I'd love to see FuBar_Debug in action |
| 21:37.04 | kergoth | so when i did an svk pull, it merged the latest trunk changes to the cladhaire branch |
| 21:37.16 | ckknight | Neriak, it's pretty shiny |
| 21:37.23 | ckknight | I'm doing a lot of testing with it now |
| 21:37.27 | Neriak | Thought so when I've seen the screenie |
| 21:37.45 | groll | boss http://wow.pastebin.com/687775 if you havent seen them already but i guess u have :P |
| 21:37.46 | Neriak | Could it be it doesn't work with 1.1.1061 ? |
| 21:38.06 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1115 10FuBar/FuBarPlugin.lua: FuBar - plugins without icons are now cannotHideText by default. |
| 21:38.10 | ckknight | okay, I'm gonna update FuBar, it'll fix people's issues |
| 21:38.17 | ckknight | right, Neriak |
| 21:38.20 | Neriak | great :) |
| 21:39.10 | ckknight | Neriak, I plan to have DebugFu do more than just profile, it'll point out other stuff as well |
| 21:39.19 | Neriak | 1.1.1061 was wierd ... it popped up three buttons with my plugins centered and aligned left randomly, was quite a bit of work to rearrange plugins on 4 chars ^^ |
| 21:39.22 | ckknight | but currently it profiles memory and time usage |
| 21:39.32 | ckknight | err, sorry |
| 21:39.45 | CIA-13 | 03kergoth 07Kaelten * r1116 10Ace/ (19 files in 4 dirs): Revert odd merge madness. |
| 21:39.51 | Neriak | buttons = panels |
| 21:40.19 | ckknight | oh |
| 21:40.26 | ckknight | you know, you can drag panels to rearrange them now |
| 21:40.50 | Neriak | Nope, I didn't know yet. |
| 21:40.57 | ckknight | it's pretty shiny |
| 21:41.09 | ckknight | similar to how plugins can be rearranged by drag and drop |
| 21:41.10 | Neriak | So I can pull a panel on another and it will merge or something like this ? |
| 21:41.40 | ckknight | no |
| 21:41.44 | ckknight | it may swap em, though |
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| 21:44.21 | [MoonWolf] | back |
| 21:44.31 | Cairenn | front |
| 21:44.41 | Qaarh | left? |
| 21:44.51 | [MoonWolf] | i understood you read the deal with zeeg ? |
| 21:44.59 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 21:45.06 | [MoonWolf] | okay. |
| 21:47.04 | Tain | If you haven't already Cairenn look at: /msg chanserv help autorem |
| 21:47.13 | Tain | To let chanserv handle things. |
| 21:47.26 | Cairenn | (17:20:56) ChanServ: (notice) [*!n=wguru@67.63.84.74] has been added to the autoremove list for #WoWI-lounge with reason [] |
| 21:47.26 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.07 | Tain | Ah ok, I only saw the second one, I thought chanserv would actually set the ban. |
| 21:48.11 | kergoth | it does |
| 21:48.14 | kergoth | you shouldnt set it manually |
| 21:48.17 | kergoth | it only sets the mode when they join |
| 21:48.22 | kergoth | rather than leaving it on all the time |
| 21:48.29 | Cairenn | well, I was just making sure |
| 21:48.37 | Tain | Ok, carry on! |
| 21:49.21 | Mikma | once again, operation flashpoint rocks |
| 21:50.23 | FryGuy | fubar is messed up :( |
| 21:50.52 | FryGuy | FuBarPlugin.lua:1579: attempt to index global `plugin' (a nil value) |
| 21:50.53 | FryGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.53 | FryGuy | DurabilityFu.lua:150: attempt to index field `data' (a nil value) |
| 21:50.53 | FryGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.53 | FryGuy | DurabilityFu.lua:74: attempt to index field `data' (a nil value) |
| 21:50.53 | FryGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.57 | Cairenn | FryGuy: download the new ones that have *just* been approved on WoWI |
| 21:51.09 | Cairenn | literally, within the last 3 minutes |
| 21:51.13 | FryGuy | i've got svn :p |
| 21:51.17 | Cairenn | ah |
| 21:52.39 | ckknight | hthat's all of em, Cairenn |
| 21:52.42 | ckknight | that's* |
| 21:52.57 | Cairenn | k |
| 21:53.15 | Cairenn | I was approving as fast as you were uploading, as I"m sure you noticed ;) |
| 21:53.44 | ckknight | Cairenn, I'm gonna see if I can find a way to automate the uploading process |
| 21:53.57 | ckknight | I was talking to NeT and Tekkub about it yesterday |
| 21:54.00 | Cairenn | ckknight: *nod* |
| 21:54.04 | Cairenn | talk to Dolby, too |
| 21:54.08 | Cairenn | he may have some suggestions |
| 21:55.00 | FryGuy | ckknight: is the version of fubar on svn working? |
| 21:55.26 | ckknight | yes |
| 21:56.48 | kergoth | meh, i need to figure out what went wrong with my insane list of lists implementation that used embedded nils in a table |
| 21:57.17 | Tem | If I had to guess.... |
| 21:57.23 | Tem | I'd say the insane part |
| 21:57.37 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:57.48 | kergoth | it was working, just the linearization didnt end up with the correct method resolution order |
| 21:57.51 | kergoth | two of them were swapped |
| 21:58.10 | kergoth | but i need to get it working again to reduce the # of temporary table creations |
| 21:59.12 | Neriak | ckknight: 1.1.1115 is popping up with this error |
| 21:59.13 | Neriak | [23:59-983] FuBar\FuBarPlugin.lua:1579: attempt to index global `plugin' (a nil value) |
| 21:59.13 | Neriak | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.23 | ckknight | blast |
| 21:59.28 | Neriak | I've updated the starterpack and all the other FuBar plug's |
| 21:59.38 | Neriak | I also deleted the folders before |
| 22:00.14 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1117 10FuBar/FuBarPlugin.lua: FuBar - FuBar\FuBarPlugin.lua:1579: attempt to index global `plugin' (a nil value) |
| 22:00.16 | Neriak | But at least it's not hiding after that error ;) |
| 22:01.06 | Andreas__ | FuBarPlugin line 317: DewdropLib a nil value |
| 22:01.17 | ckknight | Andreas__, restart WoW |
| 22:01.35 | Andreas__ | Ah, yeah. It probably won't register new files without a restart, thanks |
| 22:01.41 | Neriak | yup, I'd also recomment restarting your client |
| 22:05.21 | Neriak | whoop, error has gone with your SVN update. Thanks Boss, brilliant as always *g* |
| 22:08.26 | Neriak | clad|work: ReloadUI is intended after selecting an addon to debug/monitor ? |
| 22:08.30 | Neriak | ack |
| 22:08.38 | Neriak | ckknight that is, not clad |
| 22:08.49 | CIA-13 | 03shyva * r1118 10BigWigs/ (BWL/Flamegor.lua MC/BaronGeddon.lua): BigWigs: Fixed 2 errors. (last commit before vacation, yeay ^^) |
| 22:10.25 | Neriak | ckknight: Ah i guess you're doing the ReloadUI on purpose to fetch Initialize and Enable functions, aren't you? |
| 22:10.39 | ckknight | for DebugFu? |
| 22:10.42 | Neriak | yes |
| 22:10.51 | ckknight | you want to start from the begining |
| 22:10.54 | ckknight | beginning* |
| 22:11.01 | Neriak | sure, it's all fine :) |
| 22:11.01 | ckknight | and only profile one addon |
| 22:11.04 | ckknight | so it reloads |
| 22:11.14 | ckknight | and you're only going to be devving one plugin at a time nayway |
| 22:11.16 | ckknight | anyway* |
| 22:11.31 | Neriak | That is by far the best plugin I've ever seen for FuBar, hehe .. great toy |
| 22:12.23 | Neriak | If I can trust values my plugin did eat 8 KiB form the time I started to debug it |
| 22:12.38 | Neriak | 6 for the update tooltip :) |
| 22:12.49 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1119 10FuBar/ (FuBarPlugin.lua FuBarTooltip.lua): FuBar - 1.0 tooltips now remember color. |
| 22:14.03 | Neriak | crap my tooltip is screwed, it's missing the zone text ... wtf |
| 22:14.29 | Neriak | Do I have to change something by chance? |
| 22:14.49 | ckknight | ? |
| 22:15.00 | ckknight | zone text? |
| 22:16.01 | ckknight | using APi 1.2? |
| 22:16.03 | ckknight | API* |
| 22:16.07 | ckknight | I changed it |
| 22:16.10 | Neriak | yup I've got functions in my Tooltip that parses some tables, since the latest FuBar version, they aren't showing up anymore |
| 22:16.18 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:16.18 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:16.21 | Neriak | yeah I'm using 1.2 |
| 22:16.26 | ckknight | here's your change: |
| 22:16.29 | ckknight | previous: |
| 22:16.46 | ckknight | tablet:AddCategory('children', function() tablet:AddLine(...) end) |
| 22:16.49 | ckknight | current: |
| 22:17.02 | ckknight | local cat = tablet:AddCategory() cat:AddLine(...) |
| 22:17.37 | Neriak | oh I see |
| 22:17.42 | ckknight | it's a lot more efficient that way |
| 22:17.44 | Neriak | thanks again, I'll fix that asap |
| 22:17.49 | ckknight | it's pretty easy to fix |
| 22:17.50 | Neriak | yup |
| 22:18.10 | ckknight | now I'm gonna hack up TabletLib to the extreme |
| 22:18.14 | ckknight | the API shouldn't change, though |
| 22:18.22 | Neriak | you're crazy ;) |
| 22:19.27 | [MoonWolf] | everybody is crazy |
| 22:19.36 | [MoonWolf] | normal i sonly the crazy things most people have in common. |
| 22:20.03 | Neriak | hehe nice one. |
| 22:21.20 | [MoonWolf] | wowi needs a separete new&updated box that shows all the fubar related updates seperate from the rest. |
| 22:24.40 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:24.43 | ckknight | sorry dude |
| 22:24.55 | ckknight | but there were API changes, so everything needed to be updated |
| 22:25.30 | Tem | indeed lol |
| 22:26.15 | [MoonWolf] | get me boss, you said version 1 would have no more api changes, but... *bam*</southpark> |
| 22:27.06 | ckknight | yea, I did |
| 22:27.08 | ckknight | I never broke that |
| 22:27.15 | ckknight | version 1.0 has had no API changes |
| 22:27.34 | [MoonWolf] | loophole finding bastard. |
| 22:28.07 | ckknight | what, I knew this was going to happen |
| 22:28.16 | ckknight | that's what the 1.0->1.1->1.2 cycle is for |
| 22:28.21 | ckknight | stable->unstable->stable |
| 22:28.33 | ckknight | odd numbered versions can expect API changes |
| 22:28.44 | ckknight | if I don't change the API for 1.2, it will stay 1.2 forever |
| 22:28.59 | ckknight | it's unlikely, so you can expect 1.3 soon after |
| 22:29.08 | ckknight | 1.1 supports both the 1.2 and 1.0 APIs |
| 22:29.40 | ckknight | what I'll likely do when 1.2 comes out is release a 1.0 compatibility package |
| 22:32.08 | [MoonWolf] | hey clad |
| 22:32.15 | ckknight | hey there |
| 22:33.27 | [MoonWolf] | I alwasy keep wondering what would have happend at the end of serenity if they had not been ordered to stand down. |
| 22:33.28 | cladhaire | heyas |
| 22:34.00 | kergoth | hehe. i need to buy that dvd |
| 22:34.28 | [MoonWolf] | i have the feeling it would have included some form of bullet time. |
| 22:37.01 | [MoonWolf] | good night people |
| 22:44.09 | Neriak | ckknight: omg! procedural tooltips rock! look: http://ace.pastebin.com/687886 :) |
| 22:44.55 | ckknight | bug, Neriak |
| 22:45.01 | Neriak | where ? |
| 22:45.11 | Neriak | It works ingame |
| 22:45.13 | ckknight | line 39 |
| 22:45.20 | ckknight | cat is nil |
| 22:45.55 | ckknight | also, I plan to add tablet:AddCategory():AddCategory():AddCategory() and whatnot |
| 22:46.26 | ckknight | just a heads up |
| 22:46.35 | Neriak | ckknight: but it isn't nil, it's printing out stuff as it should, really |
| 22:46.57 | Neriak | no matter to which table I add a new zone. |
| 22:47.51 | ckknight | from what I see, cat is nil there |
| 22:49.38 | Neriak | I'm defining cat in line 46, after this I'm calling the function p() |
| 22:49.40 | Tain | FuBarPlugin.lua:1579: attempt to index global `plugin' (a nil value) |
| 22:49.46 | Neriak | so why should it be nil ? :) |
| 22:49.58 | Neriak | Tain, theres a fix on the svn. |
| 22:50.11 | Tain | Well if it was that quick to fix then FIX IT BEFORE YOU UPLOAD |
| 22:50.17 | ckknight | already fixed |
| 22:50.29 | Neriak | rofl |
| 22:50.31 | ckknight | I uploaded it |
| 22:50.34 | ckknight | it's 1117 |
| 22:50.45 | Neriak | tain: your caps .. ^^ |
| 22:50.57 | Tain | Seriously how can you have errors on so many of your "releases", just take five minutes to test. |
| 22:51.14 | ckknight | Tain, it didn't occur in my setup, cause it's due to a crappy plugin |
| 22:51.43 | Neriak | which plugin btw? |
| 22:52.44 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 22:52.48 | Tain | I got that with FuBar and the Starter Pack. |
| 22:52.51 | Tain | No other plugins. |
| 22:52.57 | ckknight | I don't believe you |
| 22:53.00 | Tain | Fuck you. |
| 22:53.03 | ckknight | but get the new version anyway |
| 22:53.05 | Tain | I just tested it. |
| 22:53.09 | Tain | Why? |
| 22:53.11 | ckknight | I already uploaded the fix |
| 22:53.13 | Tain | Because I'm a helpful chap. |
| 22:54.43 | ckknight | so, because I uploaded the fix (not just on SVN), this whole convo doesn't have much point |
| 22:55.53 | Tain | Sure it does, spend more time testing and you'll get less bugs that annoy the hell out of people to have to download new versions multiple times a day. |
| 22:56.38 | ckknight | no |
| 22:56.43 | ckknight | that's not how I work |
| 22:56.54 | ckknight | if you have issues with my release cycle, you don't have to use it |
| 22:57.25 | ckknight | FuBar is a complex structure |
| 22:57.29 | ckknight | it's hard to test everything |
| 22:58.01 | ckknight | I do testing on my own, you probably just don't realize that |
| 22:58.05 | Tem | it's why I don't download FuBar from wowi anymore |
| 22:58.09 | Tem | it's too tedius |
| 22:58.14 | Tem | the svn is your friend |
| 22:58.16 | ckknight | then, if I miss something, people are kind enough to file a report |
| 22:58.28 | ckknight | I then fix it, and push another release |
| 22:58.41 | ckknight | release early, release often |
| 22:59.10 | Tem | I try to avoid releasing more than once per day |
| 22:59.22 | Tem | because I try to give my changes at least that long to "stew" |
| 22:59.36 | ckknight | I don't want to release buggy versions |
| 22:59.52 | ckknight | thus, if I get bug reports and fix them, I don't want to wait a day to release the fix |
| 22:59.53 | Tem | there are, however, cases where the changes are so simple that that amount of extended testing isn't necessary |
| 23:00.01 | Tem | ckknight: that's not what I mean |
| 23:00.08 | Tain | Well... you know there is a way to limit the amount of buggy releases. |
| 23:00.34 | Tain | You can never be assured of being bugfree every time. You can make attempts to limit it more. |
| 23:01.04 | Tem | when I add or change something that could cause bugs, I try to test it for at least a day |
| 23:01.17 | Tem | bugfixes I push out asap |
| 23:01.49 | ckknight | I accomplish more, faster, by doing it this way |
| 23:01.59 | Tain | It's not like there aren't enough people using svn who could report bugs before they get sent out as, "stable releases" |
| 23:02.09 | Elviso | anyone got a sec to help me w/Timex? |
| 23:02.41 | Qaarh | ok people, I have to get some shuteye now. See you all tomorrow |
| 23:03.02 | ckknight | I don't pretend to be bugfree |
| 23:03.06 | ckknight | cya |
| 23:03.17 | Tem | later Qaarh |
| 23:03.34 | Tem | It's a difference in philosophy |
| 23:03.38 | Tem | and a moot point |
| 23:03.48 | Tain | There's a difference between pretending to be bugfree and being responsible enough to try to limit your bugs. |
| 23:04.53 | ckknight | I'm comfortable with the way I do it now |
| 23:05.26 | ckknight | if I add new features that people request, bugs may appear because of it |
| 23:06.03 | Tain | Well Tem's right, it is moot. Especially since you're arguing points that are irrelevant. |
| 23:06.31 | Tem | Tain: drop it please. Agree to disagree and move on |
| 23:07.07 | CIA-13 | 03neriak * r1120 10FuBar_gfxToggleGUI/gfxToggleGUI.lua: gfxToggleGUI: Yay for procedural tooltips! Updated the code to the latest FuBar API. |
| 23:08.56 | Tain | I know, the most absurd part of it all is I was actually thinking of it from the end-users point. Funny that, me caring what users think. I guess there's lines even I won't cross when it comes to pissing people off intentionally. |
| 23:10.05 | ckknight | drop it |
| 23:10.10 | ckknight | listen to Tem |
| 23:10.16 | ckknight | I understand your viewpoint |
| 23:10.20 | ckknight | and I accept that it is valid |
| 23:10.27 | ckknight | but it is not the way I plan to work for this project |
| 23:12.24 | Tem | ^^ |
| 23:12.38 | Tem | I personally agree with you Tain, but it's a pointless argument |
| 23:20.01 | haste | Lucen: I've found number of errors with the default values :D |
| 23:20.15 | Lucen | hahah |
| 23:20.18 | haste | Lucen: I'll commit a newer version later today |
| 23:20.22 | Lucen | i haven't even had a chance to look yet >.< |
| 23:20.25 | Lucen | cool! |
| 23:31.43 | id` | I have a table of debuffs, and a tooltip frame. I want to check the tooltip frame on the target. |
| 23:31.57 | id` | Every time the target loses or gains a buff or debuff i want to scan |
| 23:32.46 | id` | hm |
| 23:32.48 | id` | never mind |
| 23:32.48 | id` | :p |
| 23:36.53 | Tem | later guys |
| 23:37.03 | cladhaire | by etem |
| 23:37.11 | cladhaire | s/by etem/bye tem/ |
| 23:37.35 | id` | cladhaire: |
| 23:37.51 | cladhaire | id`: |
| 23:38.00 | id` | been trying to reach hyou for a week |
| 23:38.03 | cladhaire | why? |
| 23:38.06 | id` | i mailed you about the svn |
| 23:38.14 | cladhaire | oh yeah |
| 23:38.14 | id` | I'd like an account |
| 23:38.15 | id` | :P |
| 23:38.18 | cladhaire | i shoulod probably make those accounts now. |
| 23:38.23 | Tain | haha |
| 23:38.26 | cladhaire | send me naked pix and it'll happen quicker. |
| 23:38.41 | id` | cladhaire: But im not a hot chick |
| 23:38.53 | id` | :P |
| 23:39.01 | Tain | hahaha poor id |
| 23:39.07 | id` | ;\ |
| 23:39.24 | cladhaire | id`: So? I still want naked pix. |
| 23:39.37 | id` | Tain, ever done tooltip scanning? I need a good example of how to do it FAST and CLEAN :P |
| 23:39.45 | id` | (well dunno if clean even applies) |
| 23:39.50 | id` | cladhaire: .. ok.. |
| 23:40.16 | Tain | Others have done it better than I, I did one example for a relatively simple purpose of scanning buffs. |
| 23:40.18 | cladhaire | Depends on what you're scanning from the tooltip |
| 23:40.32 | cladhaire | id`: Its true, I like boys too.. I'm one of those heathen! |
| 23:42.27 | cladhaire | email sent. |
| 23:44.11 | id` | well like i said i have a list of buffs and if it occurs in the tooltip i need to do something |
| 23:44.27 | id` | currently im looping through the list of buffs and scanning them one by one |
| 23:45.49 | cladhaire | Make a table indexed by buff name, then just if UnitBuff() returns something, then scrape the TextLeft1, and see if it has an index in the table. |
| 23:45.50 | cladhaire | imo |
| 23:46.12 | cladhaire | id`: Let me know if you're good to commit after reading/doing that email |
| 23:46.55 | cladhaire | look id you're famous =) http://guildcurse.free.fr/cursev2/cursev21.JPG |
| 23:47.20 | Tain | This is what I did for scanning a buff, id. |
| 23:47.22 | Tain | http://ace.pastebin.com/687965 |
| 23:48.02 | cladhaire | I chat in PerfectRaid.. i only scan for the texture.. to save on all the frame interactions.. works for 90% of my stuff (Innervate/Arcane Power is the one exceptino atm) |
| 23:48.19 | cladhaire | s/chat/cheat/ |
| 23:48.30 | Tain | I never spent any more time since I hate just the idea of tooltip scanning at all. |
| 23:48.55 | Thiana | Is there a way to check for a buff without using a tooltip? |
| 23:49.04 | cladhaire | yeah, UnitBuff(unit, index) |
| 23:49.12 | cladhaire | returns the texture, and the number of applications. |
| 23:49.23 | cladhaire | its a good check to know whether you need to load the tooltip or not. |
| 23:49.59 | id` | cladhaire: cheers |
| 23:50.22 | cladhaire | =) |
| 23:50.59 | id` | cladhaire: im famous? where? |
| 23:51.05 | id` | the Tom` in MSN? :P |
| 23:51.10 | cladhaire | i assumed it was you =) |
| 23:51.30 | id` | heh, well i dont have anything to do with curse :> |
| 23:51.33 | id` | but i am tom.. |
| 23:51.35 | id` | :p |
| 23:51.43 | cladhaire | well, the ` made me think =) |
| 23:51.49 | cladhaire | he's talking to a lot of non-curse people in that pic =) |
| 23:52.08 | Tain | I noticed that too cladhaire haha |
| 23:52.21 | id` | yeeh hehe |
| 23:52.28 | id` | oh cladhaire i have a question on watchdog |
| 23:52.29 | Tain | hee hee boom boom goes zeeg |
| 23:52.50 | id` | if i use a combination of left center and right, the center isnt center anymore.. |
| 23:53.05 | cladhaire | id`: Using dynamic or fixed width frames? |
| 23:53.09 | id` | fixed |
| 23:53.15 | cladhaire | really? |
| 23:53.20 | id` | let me screen it |
| 23:53.25 | id` | to show what i mean |
| 23:55.40 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/errors/WoWScrnShot_042906_015352.jpg |
| 23:55.45 | id` | i added [right][name] |
| 23:56.00 | id` | to the target hp text |
| 23:56.36 | id` | (yes the font is just the font.. i like FAT fonts :P) |
| 23:57.04 | cladhaire | that's intentional |
| 23:57.10 | cladhaire | you have to have somethign in the left string |
| 23:57.14 | cladhaire | its currently 0 width |
| 23:57.55 | cladhaire | it can probably be anchored better, but right now its anchored to the right of LEFT and the left of RIGHT |
| 23:58.02 | cladhaire | and each string is given 1/3 of the width on fixed |
| 23:58.09 | cladhaire | i suspect [left] being empty is messing it up |
| 23:58.20 | id` | right, but if the left isnt exactly the same width as right its still off center :P |
| 23:58.30 | cladhaire | it shouldn't work like that |
| 23:58.31 | cladhaire | lemme look |
| 23:59.39 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/errors/WoWScrnShot_042906_015907.jpg |
| 23:59.40 | cladhaire | I suppose "center" is probably a misnomer then |
| 23:59.48 | cladhaire | its more meant to provide a seperator between strings, |
| 23:59.52 | haste | id`: you actually use that font (sorry, I had to comment) |
