| 00:01.00 | Codayus | How usable if Visor as a replacement for DAB/Flexbar these days? |
| 00:01.15 | groll | ckknight u mean my code?` |
| 00:01.44 | Tain | Usability depends on what you want to do verses how much scripting you want to do to get that. |
| 00:01.53 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 00:02.00 | Tain | You *can* do anything. |
| 00:02.33 | ckknight | groll, no, I mean kergoth's object model |
| 00:02.39 | groll | öh ok darn :P |
| 00:02.53 | Codayus | How easy is making some arbitrary sized bars which swap pages based on whether a spell is in range or not? |
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| 00:03.38 | Codayus | That's really the only "fancy" feature I'm using from DAB - swapping between a melee and ranged bar on my hunter based on how close I am to the target. |
| 00:04.40 | Tain | I've never done anything with spell range detecting so I'm not sure. I'd have to look at how DAB does it to see the method WoW needs to detect ranges. |
| 00:04.55 | Tain | It is only a matter of telling a button to trigger on something. |
| 00:05.01 | Tain | It's just the "what" to trigger on. |
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| 00:05.26 | Tain | Also, May is National BBQ Month. |
| 00:05.49 | Codayus | Basically drop a spell with the range you care about into an actionSlot, and then call IsActionInRange() |
| 00:06.28 | Codayus | On that actionSlot... |
| 00:06.39 | Stylpe | Time for bed. ninight |
| 00:06.49 | Codayus | So I'm guessing it should be easy enough... |
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| 00:14.02 | Tem | kergoth: you around? |
| 00:17.15 | kergoth | somewhat |
| 00:29.23 | kergoth | ckknight: i have a quick workaround thatll do for now |
| 00:29.23 | kergoth | i'll check it in when i get home shortly |
| 00:29.27 | Codayus | Can someone point me to a tutorial on visor? :-) |
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| 00:29.35 | ckknight | kergoth, alright |
| 00:30.08 | ckknight | I do admit that having a nice Object-Class system would be nice |
| 00:30.10 | kergoth | basically i define Class:new() to be different than usual for factories. it explicitly uses Object:init() to get the inheritence set up before it calls the prototype's init function |
| 00:30.13 | Codayus | Also, what does: Visor: The frame [VisorActionButton5] is not a valid UI frame. mean? |
| 00:30.37 | ckknight | kergoth, hrm |
| 00:31.59 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 00:35.41 | Codayus | nm, think I found it |
| 00:47.47 | ckknight | ? |
| 00:51.00 | ckknight | issues? |
| 00:51.40 | kergoth | not with this, the workaround should work, need to tweak the tostring stuff and add it and it should be usable for you |
| 00:51.48 | kergoth | but i'm still pondering alternatives ;) |
| 00:54.29 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:54.36 | ckknight | my opinion, and you don't have to take it |
| 00:54.51 | ckknight | is that there should be definite single inheritance, with everything going up to Object |
| 00:55.01 | ckknight | and then fake multiple inheritance through Mixins |
| 00:56.48 | kergoth | i was thinking about doing interface verification... so methods arent allowed to overlap amongst your mixins unless they share the same interface, in which case itd be safe to use super() to ensure they all get called. but differing interfaces with conflicting methods would error |
| 00:57.21 | kergoth | on another note, set editing-mode vi in the .inputrc kicks so much ass. using vi keybindings in the lua interpreter and at the bash prompt :) |
| 00:57.28 | ckknight | why allow overlap at all? |
| 00:58.41 | kergoth | nod, wouldnt have to.. hmm |
| 00:58.46 | kergoth | could just error on a conflict |
| 00:58.57 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:59.08 | ckknight | typically it won't happen, of course |
| 00:59.19 | kergoth | if thats the case, we dont need the fancy linearization and such. its just a matter of flattening them into the object. the order wont matter, because theres never overlap |
| 00:59.34 | ckknight | right |
| 00:59.46 | ckknight | also, you mentioned runtime mixins |
| 00:59.52 | ckknight | I don't really see the point of that |
| 01:00.23 | kergoth | well, conceptually, with an interpreted language, attaching a mixin at class construction time is still runtime :) |
| 01:00.29 | kergoth | compiled would be quite different of course |
| 01:00.45 | ckknight | yea, yea |
| 01:00.46 | ckknight | I know |
| 01:00.51 | ckknight | I mean, after creation |
| 01:00.56 | kergoth | i did read a couple papers talking about an implementation that allowed changing a class's parents on the fly |
| 01:01.02 | kergoth | have yet to see a good use case for it though |
| 01:01.20 | ckknight | same |
| 01:01.38 | kergoth | unless its a decorator, and what it decorates can be changed.. but you could just as easily do that without inheritence. just hold a reference to the object you're decorating as a member |
| 01:02.21 | kergoth | we'll still want syntactic sugar, and will still want a read only class pool, methinks |
| 01:03.42 | CIA-13 | 03cladhaire 07unstable * r1361 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaidChatCmd.lua PerfectRaidLocals.lua): |
| 01:03.42 | CIA-13 | PerfectRaid: |
| 01:03.42 | CIA-13 | * Removed chat command locals in preparation of a new system |
| 01:03.42 | CIA-13 | * Removed the old code from PerfectRaidChatCmd |
| 01:04.32 | kergoth | how about Class(superclass, amixin, anothermixin, athirdmixin, ....) for syntax? |
| 01:05.03 | kergoth | bleh, i need caffeine |
| 01:11.03 | ckknight | yep |
| 01:11.05 | ckknight | that's what I want |
| 01:11.13 | ckknight | well, actually, two types |
| 01:11.37 | ckknight | Class(superclass, m1, m2, m3, ...) |
| 01:11.43 | ckknight | and Class(m1, m2, m3, ...) |
| 01:11.57 | ckknight | that would imply Object as the superclass |
| 01:14.01 | Tem | kergoth: you around? |
| 01:14.33 | kergoth | Tem: yep |
| 01:14.53 | kergoth | ckknight: nod, thats easily done, since mixins are objects, not classes, they're easily recognizable |
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| 01:15.34 | kergoth | .. |
| 01:15.37 | kergoth | Tem: yep |
| 01:16.10 | Tem | local t = global_table[%field] |
| 01:16.16 | Tem | is that 5.1 syntax? |
| 01:16.35 | kergoth | %field isnt valid lua of 5.0 or 5.1 |
| 01:16.42 | Tem | hrm |
| 01:16.47 | kergoth | in 5.1, % is mod |
| 01:16.54 | Tem | I'm trying to make luadoc work |
| 01:16.59 | kergoth | i.e. 9 % 2 == 1 |
| 01:17.10 | Tem | right right |
| 01:17.19 | kergoth | maybe thats lua 4.x syntax? never used that |
| 01:17.25 | kergoth | try ldoc |
| 01:17.30 | kergoth | its a little script in the stdlib repo |
| 01:17.33 | kergoth | in utils |
| 01:18.07 | Tem | where's that now? |
| 01:18.27 | kergoth | stdlib is a luaforge project, in cvs |
| 01:18.49 | kergoth | current cvs is lua 5.1 stdlib though |
| 01:19.27 | Tem | kay |
| 01:21.58 | Tem | I'll go with the november revision |
| 01:24.35 | cladhair1 | Any table in the game that contains a list of all the classes? |
| 01:25.58 | kergoth | sheesh. OOP on the brain. I read that and got confused :) |
| 01:26.19 | cladhaire | haha |
| 01:26.20 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:26.27 | Tem | lol me too |
| 01:26.29 | cladhaire | whats your tagged bin lua code thingy |
| 01:26.31 | cladhaire | kergoth |
| 01:26.32 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:26.40 | Tem | oh damnit kergoth |
| 01:26.44 | Tem | ldoc needs the rest of stdlib |
| 01:26.51 | cladhaire | got it |
| 01:27.00 | kergoth | tagged bin lua code thingy? |
| 01:27.45 | cladhaire | bigbold =) |
| 01:31.22 | kergoth | ah right |
| 01:31.30 | kergoth | i always forget the url myself, they need to register a better domain |
| 01:31.40 | kergoth | i just google for 'code snippets' when if orget |
| 01:35.21 | cladhaire | google kergoth lua |
| 01:35.24 | cladhaire | its the third response =) |
| 01:35.28 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:35.33 | kergoth | we need more lua tidbits up there |
| 01:41.06 | Tem | kergoth: is it possible to have a 5.0.2 and a 5.1 interpreter running side-by-side *cleanly* |
| 01:41.16 | kergoth | i do |
| 01:41.26 | kergoth | just make sure the interpreters are named differently |
| 01:41.33 | kergoth | then.. to ensure the paths are clean |
| 01:41.48 | kergoth | hold, pokinga t my homefiles svn reop |
| 01:42.06 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/projects/homefiles/browser/.lua/init.lua |
| 01:42.12 | kergoth | thats in ~/.lua/ |
| 01:42.29 | kergoth | then i export LUA_INIT="@$HOME/.lua/init.lua" in my .bashrc |
| 01:42.35 | kergoth | which ensures that all interpreter executions load it |
| 01:42.48 | kergoth | then you can drop 5.1 bits in ~/.lua51/, and 5.0 bits in ~/.lua50/ |
| 01:43.30 | Tem | easy enough |
| 01:43.31 | Tem | thanks |
| 01:49.02 | ckknight | should I go Fury or Arms? |
| 01:49.10 | Tem | ugh, I hate cvs |
| 01:50.50 | kergoth | who doesnt? |
| 01:58.33 | kergoth | ~emulate peter |
| 01:58.39 | purl | NOOOOOO. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. Damn longears, trying to take Easter away from Jesus. Anyway, what was that you were saying? |
| 02:05.59 | Codayus | What'd be the easiest way to change my font size in chatframes? |
| 02:06.09 | Tem | f it |
| 02:06.12 | Codayus | To something the right click menu doesn't have in ot? |
| 02:06.18 | Tem | I'm just goint to /play/ the game |
| 02:06.23 | kergoth | *gasp* |
| 02:06.35 | Codayus | It'll never catch on... |
| 02:07.27 | Elviso | Codayus, you might check the ClearFont source |
| 02:07.42 | Elviso | I believe it changes the allowable font sizes for chat boxes |
| 02:15.41 | kergoth | foo. |
| 02:46.39 | ckknight | bar. |
| 02:46.56 | kergoth | i need a drink |
| 02:48.59 | CIA-13 | 03cladhaire 07unstable * r1362 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaidChatCmd.lua: PerfectRaid: Worked on a new command handler, this one much more simple. Splitting the traversal and usage made things much more usable |
| 03:13.16 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 03:13.24 | Codayus | WoW is now crashing when I reload my UI |
| 03:18.00 | Codayus | Arg. |
| 03:25.42 | Codayus | Hmm, tinypad is doing it. |
| 03:32.51 | Codayus | Arg. |
| 03:33.24 | Tain | Clear your tinypad svs |
| 03:33.43 | Tain | Sometimes tinypad saves something bad that causes a crash on reload |
| 03:33.47 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 03:33.49 | Codayus | Did that. |
| 03:33.57 | Codayus | Recreated the script I was working on in tinypad. |
| 03:34.05 | Codayus | Crashed on reload. |
| 03:34.47 | Tain | Make sure too to close tinypad before reloading, I found it doesn't save correctly all the time until you actually close the tinypad window |
| 03:35.48 | Codayus | Hmm, pretty sure I was. |
| 03:36.01 | Codayus | Okay, new plan. Recreased 1/3 of the script, reloaded and...no crash. |
| 03:36.29 | Tain | I just know I've had that problem with tinypad and those were the things that have helped. But no idea what actually *causes* the crash. |
| 03:36.42 | Tain | Just that something doesn't get saved correctly. |
| 03:36.59 | Codayus | Yeah... |
| 03:37.06 | Codayus | Okay, 2/3 is in tinypad...no crash |
| 03:37.25 | Codayus | This time I'm closing tinypad, reopening it, creating a new blank page, and then reclosing it, and THEN reloading |
| 03:37.32 | Codayus | If that doesn't make it save my code... |
| 03:38.18 | Codayus | Added the final few lines...and it crashed |
| 03:38.22 | Codayus | wtf. |
| 03:38.38 | Codayus | Is there a limit to the size of a single tinypad page? |
| 03:40.56 | Tain | Not sure, I haven't really done any huge pages. |
| 03:41.48 | Codayus | Answer: yes. |
| 03:41.56 | Codayus | It'll happily run big blocks of code... |
| 03:42.18 | Codayus | But apparently it (or wow, I assume) is quite unhappy at writing them out to the ssaved variables |
| 03:42.27 | Codayus | Splitting one page into two made it work. |
| 04:04.21 | ckknight | hrm |
| 04:07.15 | Codayus | Okay, so memory increase rate is up 60 KiB/s sitting in town... |
| 04:07.17 | Codayus | hm |
| 04:08.39 | ckknight | wasn't me |
| 04:12.11 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 04:12.44 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 04:13.15 | Codayus | Anyone know how to use Tekkub's FuBar - Debug Profiler? |
| 04:13.21 | Codayus | It's confusing me. :-( |
| 04:13.33 | hyperChipmunk | gee, hi chip! welcome back! |
| 04:13.43 | Tekkub | what's so confusing? |
| 04:13.44 | hyperChipmunk | hi! thanks! |
| 04:13.58 | Tekkub | why's chip talking to himself again? |
| 04:14.19 | Tekkub | you can tug as hard as you like |
| 04:14.38 | Codayus | Tekkub: See, the problem is, I'm a nub, and I'm trying to work out what addon is resposnible for my memory increasing rate. Can I use Fu_Bar debug profiler to find that out? |
| 04:14.41 | Codayus | And if so...how? |
| 04:15.00 | Tekkub | yes, kinda |
| 04:15.07 | Codayus | Is there a better way? |
| 04:15.22 | Tekkub | when is the memory increase happening, consatntly or on an event? |
| 04:15.46 | Codayus | Memory increase seems constantly high |
| 04:16.00 | Tekkub | then watch metro and OnUpdate frames a bit |
| 04:16.08 | Codayus | What do the columns mean? |
| 04:16.29 | Tekkub | see what takes a lot, it automatically sorts by the avg (last column) with highest first |
| 04:16.52 | Tekkub | lesse... frame name, count, total, avg |
| 04:17.02 | Tekkub | avg is the main one |
| 04:17.15 | Codayus | Okay, OnUpdate shows the highest is QueueWhoFrame with 229 B average. That's not accounting for a 40 KiB/s increase... |
| 04:17.41 | Codayus | Metrognome doesn't seem to be sorted... |
| 04:17.53 | Tekkub | it should be |
| 04:18.26 | Codayus | The third column in metrognomes display has 1 "2 KiB" (as the first line) and 1 "33 KiB" (as the last line). All intervening lines are "0 KiB" |
| 04:19.14 | Codayus | While standing in stormwind after a couple minutes dropped to 16 KiB/s for a bit...then started to climb. |
| 04:19.58 | Codayus | And is now up to 60 KiB/s despite me doing nothing at all in game... |
| 04:20.47 | Tekkub | look at the events one too, just in case |
| 04:23.41 | Codayus | Hmm, so what sort of thing would I be looking for? Large numbers in the rightmost column? |
| 04:26.55 | Tem|WoW | Codayus: what tool are you using to see that? |
| 04:27.11 | Codayus | That's a good point. |
| 04:27.21 | Codayus | FuBar_PerformanceFU |
| 04:27.29 | Codayus | Which I'm assuming is accurate... |
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| 04:34.46 | Tekkub | yes, third column big numbers... |
| 04:35.12 | Tekkub | maybe I should post up my Fu'd AceGCInfo, I hat PerfFu's memory rate, it's averaged over like 10 sec |
| 04:35.29 | Tekkub | AceGCInfo just shows the change each sec, no average |
| 04:35.36 | hyperChipmunk | ^ |
| 04:35.40 | hyperChipmunk | Tekkub |
| 04:36.11 | Codayus | Bah |
| 04:36.15 | Codayus | It's confusing me. :-( |
| 04:36.23 | Tekkub | sorry :P |
| 04:36.55 | Codayus | Replaced a couple discord addons...was expecting my increasing rate to be *lower*. |
| 04:36.58 | Codayus | Odd... |
| 04:51.30 | Tem|WoW | ckknight: why is AmmoFu loading when I have it disabled? |
| 04:55.08 | Tekkub | I don't get these people, they start releasing OnePiece in X264-encoded mp4 files instead of the old XviD AVIs... then post a guide on how to transcode back to XviD... and the guide is broked :P |
| 04:55.17 | Tekkub | why not just release both formats? |
| 04:56.00 | Tekkub | mp4 doesn't play at all for some people, why make it 20x harder on them when you already can do XviD, have done it for 160 episodes, and can do it easily and consistantly |
| 04:56.25 | Tekkub | I understand their reasons for liking X264, but not everyone does... |
| 04:56.54 | ckknight | Tem, *shrug* |
| 04:57.08 | Tem|WoW | that's not a good answer |
| 04:57.35 | ckknight | hey hyperChipmunk |
| 04:57.35 | Tem|WoW | I thought the whole point of having them as LoD was so that they could be left unloaded until I wanted to show them |
| 04:57.36 | ckknight | you're back |
| 04:57.40 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:57.42 | ckknight | I know |
| 04:57.43 | ckknight | most do |
| 04:57.48 | ckknight | I don't know why AmmoFu isn't |
| 04:57.51 | ckknight | thus, the shrug |
| 04:57.51 | Tekkub | I killed the LoD in all mine here |
| 04:57.57 | ckknight | why? |
| 04:58.03 | Tekkub | they kept forgetting their locations, I got sick of it |
| 04:58.09 | ckknight | that's been fixed |
| 04:58.15 | Tekkub | I don't need them LoD anyway |
| 04:58.20 | ckknight | yea, I suppose |
| 04:58.49 | Tem|WoW | I want them to be LoD so the ones I don't have shown can be not loaded |
| 04:58.50 | Tekkub | you said it'd been fixed before and it was still doing it, but it don't matter, tort won't change that line in the TOC files on me |
| 04:59.09 | Tem|WoW | lowering my startup time is a good thing |
| 04:59.47 | Tem|WoW | Granted AmmoFu took all of 0.087 seconds to load so it's not that big of a problem |
| 05:00.03 | Tekkub | yea I was about to say... "shave off them ms!" |
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| 05:10.26 | namfoodle | Morning all |
| 05:10.27 | Tem|WoW | still |
| 05:11.07 | ckknight | hey |
| 05:12.09 | namfoodle | anyone of you know why KC_EnhancedTrades is password protected on svn ? |
| 05:12.30 | namfoodle | cause i get that when i try to update via tortoise |
| 05:12.55 | namfoodle | and sorry for asking questions that early in the morning :p |
| 05:14.19 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 05:14.29 | ckknight | that's Kael's decision |
| 05:14.42 | ckknight | hey, is there a way to tell if you're currently in a taxi? |
| 05:15.29 | hyperChipmunk | must...not...give...sarcastic...response |
| 05:15.30 | namfoodle | umm i too early for me and riddles |
| 05:15.41 | namfoodle | *it's |
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| 05:16.50 | namfoodle | ckk: im sorry u probably got that question too many times already anyways now i know that keal decided, that's good enouhg for me ;) |
| 05:17.08 | namfoodle | and too early to spell right too O.o |
| 05:30.26 | Tekkub | IsOnTaxi() I thought |
| 05:34.28 | hyperChipmunk | UnitOnTaxi |
| 05:35.56 | ckknight | "when the driver is foreign" would've also been acceptable |
| 05:35.59 | ckknight | jk |
| 05:36.12 | Tekkub | *digs thru music* |
| 05:36.17 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I had a few lined up |
| 05:36.34 | hyperChipmunk | I resisted the temptation |
| 05:36.45 | Wobin_ | Interestingly enough, here in Beijing is the first place I've seen where all the taxidrivers are chinese and speak the native language |
| 05:36.58 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:37.25 | Tekkub | Stephen Lynch - Taxi Driver *grin* |
| 05:37.52 | Wobin_ | What's the word where someone is being a crappy customer and 'expecting' certain services because they are the 'customer' and the 'customer is always right' etc, and basically being a bitch about it all? |
| 05:38.05 | Wobin_ | (or phrase) |
| 05:38.46 | Tekkub | american |
| 05:38.51 | Wobin_ | Well, yes. |
| 05:38.56 | Wobin_ | But more generic =P |
| 05:39.04 | Tekkub | stupid american |
| 05:39.06 | hyperChipmunk | pushy |
| 05:39.38 | hyperChipmunk | or feeling entitled |
| 05:39.46 | Wobin_ | Entitlement bitch! that's it =) |
| 05:39.52 | Wobin_ | ta |
| 05:39.57 | Tekkub | for no valid reason |
| 05:40.11 | Tekkub | aw why the fuck do people use weird codecs! |
| 05:40.20 | Tekkub | there's nothin wrong with mp3 :P |
| 05:40.40 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 05:40.47 | Tekkub | but noooooooo they make 30MiB flac files and then ZIP them, ugh |
| 05:40.48 | hyperChipmunk | do I win something? |
| 05:41.10 | hyperChipmunk | could be wmv |
| 05:41.17 | Tekkub | people that compress a file that's in a compressed format, or put zips in rars, should be steralized |
| 05:41.30 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
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| 05:52.22 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub 07Lib * r1363 10TekTechEmbed/TekTechEmbed.lua: |
| 05:52.22 | CIA-13 | TekTechEmbed |
| 05:52.22 | CIA-13 | - Added SpellKnown and SpellRankKnown |
| 05:52.22 | CIA-13 | - Added some asserts |
| 05:57.25 | hyperChipmunk | so I miss anything worthwhile during my time away? |
| 05:58.23 | hyperChipmunk | any good drama? >8) |
| 05:59.18 | Tem|WoW | I sent someone a Cease and Decist order |
| 05:59.25 | [MoonWolf] | zeeg ? |
| 05:59.25 | Tem|WoW | does that count? |
| 05:59.31 | Tem|WoW | I wish |
| 05:59.47 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 05:59.54 | Tem|WoW | some new addon site |
| 05:59.56 | Cairenn | naw, zeeg isn't a problem any more, he's banned from the WoWI channel, and he's quitting anyway |
| 06:00.04 | ckknight | it's Cease and Desist |
| 06:00.06 | hyperChipmunk | omg |
| 06:00.14 | ckknight | quitting? |
| 06:00.15 | Cairenn | this site: http://wow.filenuts.com/ |
| 06:01.41 | [MoonWolf] | notsplit |
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| 06:03.16 | [MoonWolf] | s\o\e\ |
| 06:03.17 | Tem|WoW | my bad I suck at spelling |
| 06:03.52 | Cairenn | wb |
| 06:03.53 | Tekkub | AND DON'T COME BACK! |
| 06:03.53 | [MoonWolf] | a little late |
| 06:03.53 | hyperChipmunk | "WoW.FileNuts.com allows developers to quickly and easily submit their addons and macros to the site and get immediate popularity." |
| 06:03.53 | hyperChipmunk | awesome |
| 06:03.53 | ckknight | ? |
| 06:03.53 | hyperChipmunk | i love instant popularity |
| 06:03.53 | ckknight | as do I |
| 06:03.54 | ckknight | too bad nobody knows about em |
| 06:03.54 | Tekkub | popularity! woot! |
| 06:03.54 | [MoonWolf] | the log is funny. |
| 06:03.54 | ckknight | in fact, I have never heard of em before |
| 06:03.54 | [MoonWolf] | logo* |
| 06:03.54 | Tekkub | cause everyone knows I like more users |
| 06:03.54 | hyperChipmunk | you can't go wrong with instant popularity |
| 06:03.54 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I gotta give 'em props for the logo |
| 06:03.54 | [MoonWolf] | that site is like 2 days old. |
| 06:03.54 | Tekkub | is it like instant mashed potatoes? |
| 06:03.54 | Tekkub | if so, no thanks |
| 06:03.54 | Tekkub | or instant milk *blarf* |
| 06:03.55 | ckknight | tem, who did you send a Cease and Desist order to? |
| 06:03.55 | Cairenn | as for zeeg: http://www.wowguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13351 |
| 06:03.55 | Cairenn | ckknight: http://wow.filenuts.com/ |
| 06:06.49 | [MoonWolf] | cows: instant milk, yust pull. |
| 06:06.50 | ckknight | really? |
| 06:06.50 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:06.50 | Tem|WoW | really |
| 06:06.51 | ckknight | better not steal my shit |
| 06:06.51 | Cairenn | yeah, and they fake download count, too |
| 06:06.51 | Tem|WoW | ckknight: to whom was that directed? |
| 06:06.51 | ckknight | to filenuts |
| 06:06.51 | Tekkub | why would they fake downloads? |
| 06:06.51 | [MoonWolf] | ctmod has has 12247 downloads in 3 days ? |
| 06:06.51 | haste | good morning :) |
| 06:06.51 | [MoonWolf] | suuuuuure |
| 06:06.52 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:06.52 | Tekkub | *posts* *1000000 downloads* *instant popularity!* |
| 06:06.52 | Cairenn | ckknight: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=370933&p=1&tmp=1#post370933 was the original thread, it's fun reading ... |
| 06:06.52 | Cairenn | (about the filenuts site, that is) |
| 06:06.52 | Tekkub | so without z-man, guru's gonna go poof isn't it :) |
| 06:06.52 | Cairenn | *shrug* |
| 06:06.52 | [MoonWolf] | lol, you can claim an addon they already uploaded. sure that is going to pass really well. |
| 06:06.53 | [MoonWolf] | i dont think they are responding to cease and desists. |
| 06:06.53 | Cairenn | you can see the community's reaction |
| 06:06.53 | [MoonWolf] | not pretty |
| 06:06.53 | [MoonWolf] | could have gone really well, the only thing they had to do was give that same post and wait. |
| 06:08.51 | ckknight | I'm gonna post |
| 06:08.52 | [MoonWolf] | and not upload stuff themselves. |
| 06:08.52 | Cairenn | yup |
| 06:08.52 | Tekkub | " Remove all the CT mods you have on your site. And no, I'm not going to create a username and claim our mods." |
| 06:08.52 | Tekkub | *giggle* |
| 06:08.52 | [MoonWolf] | ct is still on there btw. |
| 06:08.52 | Tem|WoW | I didn't bother making a post |
| 06:08.52 | Tem|WoW | I sent them the CnD |
| 06:08.52 | Tem|WoW | Catalyst was gone before the day was over |
| 06:08.52 | Cairenn | and it isn't like they weren't warned as soon as they posted, yet they persisted |
| 06:08.52 | hyperChipmunk | oh my god will people never learn? |
| 06:08.52 | Cairenn | nope, they won't |
| 06:08.53 | Cairenn | you'll notice that they haven't bothered responding to the thread after everyone told them to pull stuff |
| 06:08.53 | [MoonWolf] | you are ising the word people and learning in one sentence without the word not.... |
| 06:09.27 | [MoonWolf] | using* |
| 06:09.27 | Cairenn | they didn't like that answer |
| 06:09.27 | ckknight | 122 votes for CT in 3 days? |
| 06:09.27 | [MoonWolf] | that could happen on curse or wowi if you first deleted the original addon. |
| 06:09.27 | [MoonWolf] | that and more. |
| 06:10.55 | Cairenn | minor difference here though [MoonWolf] ... we're known sites |
| 06:10.55 | hyperChipmunk | " That's what's really neat, they can create a username and password, then "claim" their mod and update it themselves as they see fit, including removal. " |
| 06:10.55 | [MoonWolf] | true |
| 06:10.55 | hyperChipmunk | wow NEAT!!!!!!! |
| 06:10.55 | [MoonWolf] | wow, thats like eeuh. i dont have an analogy for this. |
| 06:10.56 | namfoodle | morning haste: so how did the exam yesterday go btw ? |
| 06:11.37 | Cairenn | anyway, sleep time for me, night guys |
| 06:11.38 | [MoonWolf] | thats like a publisher selling your books, but if you want you can register with the publisher and they will give you royalties. |
| 06:11.38 | namfoodle | nn Cair |
| 06:11.38 | [MoonWolf] | night. |
| 06:14.01 | Cairenn|sleep | won't be around much tomorrow, daughter's Senior Year Recital |
| 06:14.10 | Cairenn|sleep | will be spending most of the day running hither and yon, then the evening at the recital |
| 06:14.12 | [MoonWolf] | cool |
| 06:14.14 | [MoonWolf] | have fun. |
| 06:14.16 | haste | namfoodle: It was moved... to today *leaves* |
| 06:15.43 | namfoodle | well then GL today haste ;) |
| 06:16.23 | Tekkub | I read "rectal" there >< |
| 06:16.27 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:16.29 | ckknight | you would |
| 06:16.37 | Tekkub | ea, I would, I'm pathetic |
| 06:17.01 | Tekkub | at least I'm not like the ditzy girls at work talking about needed to "work on their package" |
| 06:17.10 | Tekkub | I quickly left the room... |
| 06:17.27 | namfoodle | ^^ |
| 06:17.46 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 06:17.48 | Tekkub | and then there was that guy that wanted me to ask his GF what the diff between "eating in" and "eating out" was to embarass her... |
| 06:18.04 | Tekkub | like yea, I'll get fired for that you tard |
| 06:18.12 | ckknight | well, I posted on that thread |
| 06:18.13 | namfoodle | sounds like nice working buddies u have tekk :p |
| 06:18.17 | Tekkub | instead the GF and I made fun of him, cleanly :) |
| 06:18.25 | Tekkub | that one was a customer |
| 06:18.51 | Tekkub | one of the managers is a HS friend of my hubby's tho, so we make fun of him a lot |
| 06:19.21 | hyperChipmunk | "Catalyst.. what a wonderful mod to speed up load times, yet almost no one knew it existed! " |
| 06:19.28 | namfoodle | so the new work is getting better atleast :) |
| 06:19.34 | ckknight | hey, I wonder if I can claim CTMod |
| 06:19.37 | ckknight | and then remove it |
| 06:19.56 | [MoonWolf] | part of me want you to try, part of my doesnt want to insult cide. |
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| 06:20.22 | Codayus | Hmmm. |
| 06:21.35 | hyperChipmunk | my god |
| 06:21.47 | Tekkub | yes mah son? |
| 06:21.47 | hyperChipmunk | " In the case of CT and Satrina and the like w/ mod authors that host their own site. You could simply link your download button with the .zip on their site? " |
| 06:21.57 | hyperChipmunk | wow what a fabulous idea |
| 06:21.57 | [MoonWolf] | no you couldnt! |
| 06:22.00 | Tekkub | yea I know, jackasses |
| 06:22.06 | [MoonWolf] | bandwith stealers. |
| 06:24.58 | Elkano | morning :) |
| 06:26.23 | hyperChipmunk | these people are a disgrace to rodentkind =\ |
| 06:27.26 | hyperChipmunk | and they don't even redeem themselves by having a Battlegrounds category |
| 06:27.34 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r1364 10FuzzyLogic/Core.lua: FuzzyLogic - Fixed typo bug |
| 06:29.25 | hyperChipmunk | I don't even get to have the fun of being indignant over a mod of mine being uploaded; they don't even have a freaking category for my stuff >8( |
| 06:32.28 | hyperChipmunk | thx namfoodle |
| 06:32.36 | namfoodle | anytime mate ;) |
| 06:32.59 | hyperChipmunk | up to 4733! |
| 06:33.02 | hyperChipmunk | that's almost 5000! |
| 06:33.59 | Wobin_ | hyperChipmunk: That's what counts =) |
| 06:34.21 | Wobin_ | The downloads mean that people are finding it, even if the category doesn't exist =P |
| 06:34.53 | Elkano | what page are you talking about? |
| 06:35.09 | hyperChipmunk | ha, mr plow |
| 06:35.11 | hyperChipmunk | that loser |
| 06:35.21 | hyperChipmunk | only 1631 downloads |
| 06:35.24 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r1365 10MountMe/ (. Core.lua ItemSwap.lua MountMe.toc): |
| 06:35.24 | CIA-13 | MountMe |
| 06:35.24 | CIA-13 | - Moving personal library methods into an embed (whee!) |
| 06:35.24 | CIA-13 | - Tweaked code so that item swapping and daze-cancel can be toggled using /mountme standby ... MountMe:Now() should still work as intended |
| 06:35.45 | hyperChipmunk | and 10 are from me =p |
| 06:35.51 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 06:36.10 | Wobin_ | omg, you're artificially boosting my download numbers! |
| 06:36.55 | Tekkub | that's what I like about the SVN... no numbers, no voting :) |
| 06:37.17 | hyperChipmunk | 7 more for wob! |
| 06:38.14 | Wobin_ | If it weren't for the group of trained rodents I have clicking the download link, I wouldn't have the numbers I have! |
| 06:38.22 | namfoodle | Tekk: is there any way to begin using gratuit instead of acetooltip? *hides in fear of having said something newbish* |
| 06:38.41 | ckknight | namfoodle, gratuity is fun |
| 06:38.44 | ckknight | I use it in DurabilityFu |
| 06:38.52 | hyperChipmunk | while true do wget mrplow.zip > /dev/null done |
| 06:38.54 | Tekkub | in what? MountMe? |
| 06:39.01 | namfoodle | yes :) |
| 06:39.06 | Tekkub | I need to convert all me AceTooltip-using mods... |
| 06:39.11 | Tekkub | :P |
| 06:39.15 | namfoodle | ooh :p |
| 06:39.28 | Tekkub | and not really, it uses SEAura and that still needs AceTT |
| 06:39.37 | Tekkub | guess I'll toy with that *mutter* |
| 06:40.03 | namfoodle | oke then thanks for answer ;) |
| 06:41.59 | hyperChipmunk | night guys; gonna get a night's sleep in my own bed for first time in 5 days =) |
| 06:42.29 | ckknight | cya |
| 06:43.21 | hyperChipmunk | tomorrow I'll be back to churnin' out low-quality crap at slothlike speeds |
| 06:44.09 | Wobin_ | Yay, normality resumes =P |
| 06:45.28 | namfoodle | eep all are going to sleep it seems |
| 06:46.34 | namfoodle | it's like early morning here :) and servers are down :| |
| 06:49.09 | ckknight | I'm not going to sleep |
| 06:49.50 | namfoodle | yay my hero :p |
| 06:49.56 | Wobin_ | nor I |
| 06:50.06 | Wobin_ | It's only... 10 to 3pm |
| 06:50.28 | namfoodle | :) |
| 06:50.36 | ckknight | I want Kergoth to finish the Object model :-( |
| 06:50.39 | ckknight | so that I can work on stuff |
| 06:52.31 | namfoodle | wish i had any idea of coding, but at that point my skills are nonexistent |
| 06:52.47 | ckknight | we're in a coding channel... |
| 06:53.51 | namfoodle | yeah but im just here to annoy, and jumped in to ask a bunch of questions :) |
| 06:54.25 | namfoodle | uh and now im probably getting kicked for the same reason :p |
| 06:54.55 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:55.11 | ckknight | you should code something |
| 06:55.17 | ckknight | so you get the gist of it |
| 06:55.37 | namfoodle | I have no idea where i should begin ^^ |
| 06:56.24 | Elkano | well, how about having a look at the FuBar examples? ;) |
| 06:56.26 | sedatedChipmunk | steal someone else's stuff |
| 06:56.36 | sedatedChipmunk | and do somethign with it |
| 06:56.42 | sedatedChipmunk | just...don't release it =P |
| 06:56.46 | namfoodle | hehe |
| 06:57.01 | ckknight | pretty much |
| 06:57.04 | sedatedChipmunk | best way to get into it is just "scratch an itch" |
| 06:57.07 | namfoodle | im gonna have a look at the fubar examples |
| 06:57.16 | ckknight | ClockFu's a pretty good one |
| 06:57.24 | sedatedChipmunk | "Gee...I REALLY wish the game did THIS instead of THAT" |
| 06:57.30 | ckknight | pretty much |
| 06:57.42 | namfoodle | and then come to you when my head starts to hurt, which will be in like 2-3 mins :p |
| 06:57.51 | sedatedChipmunk | no, come to ckknight |
| 06:58.01 | sedatedChipmunk | because he'll make you cry |
| 06:58.02 | Industrial | morning |
| 06:58.16 | namfoodle | Morning Idustrial |
| 06:58.26 | namfoodle | yeah i bet he will ^^ |
| 06:58.49 | Thiana | Anyone have a link for a nice reference to the lua standard libs? |
| 06:59.23 | Wobin_ | www.lua.org/ |
| 06:59.34 | Wobin_ | PiL is quite good too |
| 06:59.49 | Wobin_ | www.lua.org/manual/5.0/ |
| 07:00.03 | Wobin_ | http://www.lua.org/pil/index.html |
| 07:00.12 | Thiana | WoW is based on 5.0 or 5.1 or ? |
| 07:00.25 | Wobin_ | 5.0 I believe |
| 07:00.39 | Thiana | Thanks :) |
| 07:00.41 | Wobin_ | We're trying to convince them to upgrade =) |
| 07:00.56 | namfoodle | you guys using editplus for editing btw, or any special program to make it easier ? |
| 07:01.26 | sedatedChipmunk | namfoodle: some examples of stuff I have in my own scratch addon: putting battlegrounds messages in the same place that things like "Ability not ready" messages show up, making a button for toggling helmet display so I don't have to go to the options menu to change it every time, and demoting everyone else in the raid when I get made leader |
| 07:01.37 | Thiana | I'm using vim. |
| 07:01.50 | sedatedChipmunk | stuff like that is a great way to start |
| 07:02.13 | namfoodle | aah cool thanks :) |
| 07:03.04 | ckknight | notepad2 |
| 07:03.17 | sedatedChipmunk | TextPad and notepad2 are good editors for windows |
| 07:03.48 | ckknight | Notepad2 is really lightweight |
| 07:03.51 | ckknight | that's why I like it |
| 07:03.53 | Industrial | vim.org |
| 07:03.59 | Industrial | is what i use |
| 07:04.14 | Industrial | on windows, bt |
| 07:04.15 | Industrial | w |
| 07:04.18 | namfoodle | heading to wim an have a look :) |
| 07:04.23 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 07:04.26 | sedatedChipmunk | =x |
| 07:04.48 | sedatedChipmunk | heh heh |
| 07:05.05 | sedatedChipmunk | you guys gonna discourage him before he even gets a single line of text written =p |
| 07:05.30 | namfoodle | ^^ |
| 07:05.43 | ckknight | vim is bad. |
| 07:05.48 | Industrial | is not |
| 07:05.50 | ckknight | well, not bad |
| 07:05.52 | ckknight | unnecessary |
| 07:05.53 | namfoodle | not that easily done tho, have 2 kids and a wife that should say it all |
| 07:06.04 | Industrial | To answer your first question; Yes, it DOES have a steep learning curve. It pays off though |
| 07:06.09 | ckknight | and it's made for *nix, it doesn't fit nicely into the Win32 environment |
| 07:06.15 | Industrial | It does |
| 07:06.17 | Industrial | :) |
| 07:06.30 | ckknight | I don't like the learning curve |
| 07:06.40 | ckknight | it's unlike pretty much all other text editors I'm used to |
| 07:06.49 | Industrial | That's because.. yeah.. |
| 07:06.56 | Industrial | you just have to think differently |
| 07:06.58 | sedatedChipmunk | but it is most <333 |
| 07:06.58 | ckknight | and the modal quality annoys me to know end |
| 07:07.05 | ckknight | makes the whole thing seem inconsistent to me |
| 07:07.06 | sedatedChipmunk | you know end? |
| 07:07.11 | Industrial | thats the power of it |
| 07:07.20 | ckknight | the inconsistency? |
| 07:07.26 | Industrial | the modality |
| 07:07.31 | ckknight | yea, I can't stand it |
| 07:07.42 | Industrial | Like i said, matter of time. |
| 07:08.19 | Industrial | Put more energy in doing things, instead of not wanting to do things, and this will go very fast. |
| 07:08.25 | Industrial | I also recommand a tutorial |
| 07:08.26 | Industrial | *look* |
| 07:08.27 | namfoodle | well if it pays off then i rather do it the hard way at start |
| 07:08.48 | ckknight | I used the vim tutorial |
| 07:08.52 | ckknight | didn't satisfy me |
| 07:08.54 | sedatedChipmunk | you'll end up spending time learning an editor rather than learning a language |
| 07:08.55 | Industrial | I think so, kergoth thinks so, and i bet #vim does :P |
| 07:09.05 | Industrial | http://vi-improved.org/tutorial.php |
| 07:09.12 | Industrial | thats a more humanely written tutorial |
| 07:09.17 | Industrial | i actually learnt from that |
| 07:09.34 | Industrial | When starting out, you dont need HJKL to move, arrows is just fine |
| 07:09.36 | sedatedChipmunk | ofc, I swear by vim also, so I'm not really qualified to suggest away from it =P |
| 07:09.57 | namfoodle | but i guess u have had experience with coding before this indust ? |
| 07:10.05 | Industrial | yea |
| 07:10.24 | namfoodle | i guess that makes things abit easier :) |
| 07:10.32 | namfoodle | just a tiny bit :p |
| 07:10.41 | ckknight | also, escape is too far away |
| 07:10.44 | sedatedChipmunk | probably also comfortable with a unix command line |
| 07:11.01 | Industrial | escape actually sends '^[' |
| 07:11.05 | kergoth | ckknight, many remap the switch to normal mode from escape to caps lock or similar |
| 07:11.07 | sedatedChipmunk | ctrl-[ |
| 07:11.08 | Industrial | so you can do ctrl+[ instead |
| 07:11.10 | Industrial | yea |
| 07:11.19 | ckknight | my caps lock is turned off completely, it's for Vent/TS |
| 07:11.26 | kergoth | Industrial, i switched my readline to vi mode today. now i can navigate my shell commands in bash with hjkl :) |
| 07:11.29 | kergoth | and in the lua interpreter |
| 07:11.37 | Industrial | kergoth: :-) |
| 07:11.49 | kergoth | and e, and b, and all the other normal mode niftiness |
| 07:12.09 | Industrial | I'm still too lazy to fix the aspjscript file |
| 07:12.16 | Industrial | never got into how those files work |
| 07:12.28 | Industrial | metacosm made one, but its broken |
| 07:12.46 | Industrial | = doesnt work for example |
| 07:13.20 | Wobin_ | Autohotkey for windows is great too |
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| 07:13.27 | Wobin_ | I remapped the Fn button to escape |
| 07:13.35 | Qaarh | morning |
| 07:13.39 | Wobin_ | Morning Qaarh |
| 07:13.41 | ckknight | morning, Qaarh |
| 07:13.52 | Industrial | i remapped ctrl to caps and caps to ctrl in the windows registry |
| 07:13.53 | namfoodle | mornings :) |
| 07:14.00 | Qaarh | I hate wednesdays.. is there a ~wednesday command? |
| 07:14.02 | Qaarh | ~wednesday |
| 07:14.07 | purl | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 07:14.07 | Industrial | way more efficient for wow too |
| 07:14.07 | sedatedChipmunk | ~today |
| 07:14.09 | purl | today is, like, Wednesday |
| 07:14.16 | Qaarh | there we go |
| 07:14.30 | Industrial | I love wednesdays, kickboxing :P |
| 07:14.33 | Qaarh | and because wednesday is european patchday |
| 07:14.48 | ckknight | are you aware that Wednesday is also "Hump day"? |
| 07:14.48 | namfoodle | i love fridays *Weekend* |
| 07:14.53 | kergoth | i need to find a local JKD place. havent done that in a long time, getting out of shape |
| 07:14.56 | kergoth | ~friday |
| 07:14.57 | purl | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 07:15.00 | Industrial | hump day? |
| 07:15.04 | sedatedChipmunk | ~humpday |
| 07:15.06 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
| 07:15.06 | purl | kergoth: :) |
| 07:15.11 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, cuz it's middle of the week |
| 07:15.11 | kergoth | ~wednesday |
| 07:15.13 | purl | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 07:15.19 | kergoth | ~yay |
| 07:15.20 | purl | Yipee! |
| 07:15.25 | sedatedChipmunk | downhill from wednesday |
| 07:15.41 | Industrial | so? you work less.. |
| 07:15.43 | Industrial | thats good.. |
| 07:15.47 | Industrial | xD |
| 07:15.57 | ckknight | it's also the best day for office quickies |
| 07:16.04 | Qaarh | hah |
| 07:16.06 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 07:16.09 | Industrial | omg hot chick alert |
| 07:16.14 | Industrial | afk |
| 07:16.18 | Qaarh | where!? |
| 07:16.23 | Industrial | in my office!! |
| 07:16.25 | Qaarh | i mean... |
| 07:16.28 | kergoth | i tried to work on the object model today, but today sucked ass. didnt get shit done for work either. :\ |
| 07:16.31 | namfoodle | Gief picture |
| 07:16.34 | namfoodle | ^^ |
| 07:16.55 | Qaarh | ok, how many of you play on RP realms? |
| 07:17.00 | kergoth | the new model should be pretty easy to implement, just a matter of getting constructor execution sane |
| 07:17.00 | sedatedChipmunk | yo |
| 07:17.01 | Industrial | :)~~~~ |
| 07:17.02 | ckknight | me |
| 07:17.03 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r1366 10SpecialEvents/ (6 files): |
| 07:17.03 | CIA-13 | SpecialEvents |
| 07:17.03 | CIA-13 | - Converted Aura and Mount modules to use Gratuity |
| 07:17.03 | CIA-13 | - Added personal embod library |
| 07:17.03 | CIA-13 | - Commented out spellcast module from TOC, as I'm probably not going to do anything more with it... |
| 07:17.05 | Industrial | pvp |
| 07:17.14 | kergoth | i'm still considering implementing privacy though, just cause itd be nifty |
| 07:17.22 | Qaarh | you familiar with the flagRSP addon? |
| 07:17.23 | sedatedChipmunk | that's not rp, idjut |
| 07:17.23 | namfoodle | 3 cheers for tekkup :) |
| 07:17.25 | ckknight | kergoth, I want a working model :-( |
| 07:17.29 | kergoth | could do private inheritence of a mixin, only access its methods from inside your methods |
| 07:17.34 | sedatedChipmunk | familiar |
| 07:17.36 | kergoth | ckknight, i'll fix it tomorrow, when i'm highly caffinated |
| 07:17.37 | sedatedChipmunk | don't use it myself |
| 07:17.46 | ckknight | tomorrow is a whole day away |
| 07:18.08 | Qaarh | right, I don't use it either, it's old and it's not very updated at all.. Someone's working on a flagRSP2 now though it seems to be far off still... |
| 07:18.09 | ckknight | kergoth, wouldn't that be first level protected? |
| 07:18.19 | ckknight | Qaarh, cool |
| 07:18.37 | ckknight | I bet I could write one |
| 07:18.42 | ckknight | better than the others |
| 07:18.43 | Qaarh | though the original flagRSP was slowing stuff down -real much- |
| 07:18.45 | ckknight | with hookers |
| 07:18.47 | ckknight | and blackjack |
| 07:18.52 | Qaarh | ckknight, I don't doubt that :D |
| 07:18.53 | kergoth | yay blackjack and hookers |
| 07:19.01 | kergoth | ~emulate bender |
| 07:19.02 | purl | Yeah, well I'm gonna build my own lunar space lander! With blackjack aaaaannd Hookers! Actually, forget the space lander, and the blackjack. Ahhhh forget the whole thing! |
| 07:19.05 | kergoth | haha |
| 07:19.06 | kergoth | woot. |
| 07:19.08 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
| 07:19.08 | purl | kergoth: aw, gee |
| 07:19.11 | sedatedChipmunk | nice, first try!@ |
| 07:19.29 | ckknight | ~emulate guybrush threepwood |
| 07:19.30 | purl | Every enemy I have met, I’ve annihilated. - With your breath, I’m sure they all suffocated. |
| 07:19.46 | Qaarh | ~emulate marvin |
| 07:19.57 | Qaarh | awww, that should definitely be there |
| 07:20.39 | ckknight | marvin who? |
| 07:20.43 | sedatedChipmunk | there's a depressing lack of hhgg material |
| 07:20.49 | ckknight | ah |
| 07:21.10 | sedatedChipmunk | purl, emulate marvin is <reply>I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed. |
| 07:21.11 | purl | sedatedChipmunk: okay |
| 07:21.20 | Qaarh | ~emulate marvin |
| 07:21.21 | purl | I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed. |
| 07:21.23 | Qaarh | yay |
| 07:22.05 | sedatedChipmunk | how do you add more? |
| 07:22.13 | sedatedChipmunk | I'm too lazy to look it up =) |
| 07:22.30 | sedatedChipmunk | some |or thing |
| 07:22.49 | sedatedChipmunk | purl, emulate marvin is also |or foo |
| 07:22.51 | purl | okay, sedatedChipmunk |
| 07:22.56 | sedatedChipmunk | ~emulate marvin |
| 07:22.57 | purl | I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed. |or foo |
| 07:23.02 | sedatedChipmunk | crud |
| 07:23.06 | Qaarh | wasn't |or |
| 07:23.09 | ckknight | it's || |
| 07:23.17 | [MoonWolf] | wow, servers are up already! |
| 07:23.18 | sedatedChipmunk | purl, forget emulate marvin |
| 07:23.31 | Qaarh | [MoonWolf], they are? *logs in* |
| 07:23.38 | Qaarh | (i'm not addicted.. I'm not. I promise) |
| 07:23.47 | [MoonWolf] | defias brotherhood is. |
| 07:23.49 | ckknight | ~emulate marvin is I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed |
| 07:23.50 | purl | ...but emulate marvin is already something else... |
| 07:23.54 | sedatedChipmunk | purl, no, emulate marvin is <reply>I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed. |
| 07:23.55 | purl | okay, sedatedChipmunk |
| 07:24.02 | Qaarh | Steamwheedle Cartel is too |
| 07:24.19 | sedatedChipmunk | purl, emulate marvin is also ||or <reply>Life...don't talk to me about life. |
| 07:24.20 | purl | okay, sedatedChipmunk |
| 07:24.25 | sedatedChipmunk | ~emulate marvin |
| 07:24.26 | purl | well, emulate marvin is or <reply>Life...don't talk to me about life. |
| 07:24.36 | sedatedChipmunk | I suck |
| 07:24.39 | sedatedChipmunk | purl, no, emulate marvin is <reply>I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed. |
| 07:24.40 | purl | sedatedChipmunk: okay |
| 07:24.41 | ckknight | what's the funnest/most useful class in PvP? |
| 07:25.03 | sedatedChipmunk | depends if you like being ridiculously overpowered or not |
| 07:25.11 | ckknight | not sure |
| 07:25.13 | ckknight | maybe |
| 07:25.13 | sedatedChipmunk | if so, roll shaman |
| 07:25.18 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:25.20 | Qaarh | Shaman rocks |
| 07:25.28 | sedatedChipmunk | and go around healing yourself in your mail gear and nuking ppl for 3500 |
| 07:25.31 | ckknight | what else? |
| 07:25.42 | Qaarh | I was totally owning WSG yesterday.. every time someone took a flag, I returned it :D |
| 07:25.43 | ckknight | I think I might want to be Undead |
| 07:25.46 | ckknight | but I'm not sure |
| 07:25.47 | sedatedChipmunk | undead rogues |
| 07:25.52 | ckknight | no Rogues |
| 07:25.54 | sedatedChipmunk | are friggin pain in the nuts |
| 07:25.59 | sedatedChipmunk | so are undead priests |
| 07:26.02 | Qaarh | sedatedChipmunk, amen to that.. |
| 07:26.15 | ckknight | I dunno, I may want to try a Rogue |
| 07:26.16 | ckknight | ... |
| 07:26.17 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:26.23 | ckknight | gah, so many decisions |
| 07:26.48 | ckknight | I need Kergoth to finish the lib so I can distract myself from real life while I work |
| 07:26.53 | Qaarh | roll a Druid then, you can be a little of all |
| 07:26.55 | ckknight | I can't work on FuBar cause people are bitchy |
| 07:27.01 | Elkano | I think moonwolf started to hate me for always bothering him :( |
| 07:27.11 | ckknight | lol? |
| 07:27.35 | [MoonWolf] | not in the least elk |
| 07:28.04 | [MoonWolf] | im just more into playing then coding at the moment. |
| 07:28.40 | Qaarh | grrr, I hate it when they toggle off "Load outdated Addons" on patches.. I log in and thing "hey, where did all my stuff go?" |
| 07:28.45 | Elkano | ah, k :) just wanted to have you put the fix into mendeleev so I wouldn run async with svn :) |
| 07:28.56 | ckknight | I need a task! |
| 07:28.58 | [MoonWolf] | on it. |
| 07:29.01 | ckknight | somebody give me one! |
| 07:29.35 | Elkano | thx for reminding Qaarh :) |
| 07:29.40 | Tekkub | hrm.... |
| 07:29.48 | Qaarh | Elkano, no problem |
| 07:30.15 | [MoonWolf] | write a new flagrsp |
| 07:30.35 | sedatedChipmunk | ~emulate marvin |
| 07:30.36 | purl | Life...don't talk to me about life. |
| 07:30.36 | ckknight | I'd need a communications library |
| 07:30.49 | sedatedChipmunk | ~emulate marvin |
| 07:30.50 | purl | Life...don't talk to me about life. |
| 07:30.50 | Tekkub | there you go, write a comm library |
| 07:30.53 | sedatedChipmunk | hm |
| 07:31.00 | sedatedChipmunk | ~emulate marvin |
| 07:31.01 | purl | Life...don't talk to me about life. |
| 07:31.09 | sedatedChipmunk | ~literal emulate marvin |
| 07:31.11 | purl | "emulate marvin" is "<reply>I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed. || <reply>Life...don't talk to me about life." |
| 07:31.17 | sedatedChipmunk | ~emulate marvin |
| 07:31.18 | purl | I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed. |
| 07:31.21 | sedatedChipmunk | excellent |
| 07:32.03 | ckknight | I don't know anything about communications, though |
| 07:32.07 | Elkano | ckknight, write an emblib for addons to use in order to sync data accross clients :) |
| 07:32.10 | Qaarh | if I could only find the link.. there was this second flagRSP addon out there... |
| 07:32.14 | [MoonWolf] | good learning expierience. |
| 07:32.26 | sedatedChipmunk | hmm |
| 07:32.27 | Qaarh | ah here http://forums.rightstep.org/ |
| 07:32.29 | sedatedChipmunk | ~zaphod |
| 07:32.32 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, zaphod is just this guy, you know? |
| 07:32.38 | sedatedChipmunk | thank god |
| 07:32.40 | Qaarh | MyQuest and MyRoleplay |
| 07:32.45 | sedatedChipmunk | if I had to do that one, I'd have punched someone |
| 07:32.59 | Thiana | ~emulate hyperactiveChipmunk |
| 07:33.08 | ckknight | oh, MyRoleplay |
| 07:33.09 | ckknight | heard abou tthat |
| 07:33.14 | Tekkub | ~organism |
| 07:33.16 | purl | Please, he's no different from the rest of you organisms. Shooting DNA at each other to make babies ... I find it offensive. |
| 07:33.19 | Thiana | ~emulate sedatedChipmunk |
| 07:33.28 | Thiana | ~emulate Tekkub |
| 07:33.30 | purl | I'm taking back that /blow job |
| 07:33.36 | sedatedChipmunk | I think the only one in there is just ~hyperChipmunk |
| 07:33.41 | Thiana | ~emulate Boss |
| 07:33.42 | kergoth | ~emulate me |
| 07:33.44 | purl | Hmm... I know I was supposed to be doing something. I wonder what it was. |
| 07:33.49 | Thiana | ~hyperChipmunk |
| 07:33.50 | purl | it has been said that hyperchipmunk is *chitterchitterchitterchitterchitterchitterchitterchitter* |
| 07:33.50 | kergoth | how apt. |
| 07:34.00 | [MoonWolf] | hmm, imight make a acersp |
| 07:34.09 | Thiana | ~boss |
| 07:34.11 | purl | it has been said that boss is a powerful, annoying creature, usually devoid of any clue, especially when ordering people around. |
| 07:34.11 | Qaarh | ckknight, I can't help but thinking "bloat", since MyQuest was horrible on resources from what I found.. flagRSP wasn't that nice either |
| 07:34.24 | Thiana | ~emulate ckknight |
| 07:34.25 | purl | I like Trillian |
| 07:34.32 | ckknight | lol |
| 07:34.35 | ckknight | I use XChat now |
| 07:34.53 | Tekkub | I switched to xchat cause of that whole ESC thing |
| 07:35.00 | sedatedChipmunk | step in the right direction |
| 07:35.14 | Tekkub | that and I moved all my IMs to work thru jabber and just keep gtalk open now |
| 07:35.25 | [MoonWolf] | you do that too now ? |
| 07:35.27 | Tekkub | so no more trill for me |
| 07:35.32 | [MoonWolf] | that is so awesome. |
| 07:35.32 | Tekkub | yea moon |
| 07:35.38 | [MoonWolf] | its like, small and all in one. |
| 07:35.45 | Tekkub | I just need plain ol boring IM, I don't need all that other shit |
| 07:35.54 | Elkano | well, I'm using miranda as IM and mIRC for IRC *hides* |
| 07:35.55 | Tekkub | just text exchange, plain and simple |
| 07:36.17 | [MoonWolf] | agreed. i could not care less about all the pictures, animated backgrounds that you can share with your friend, etc etc. |
| 07:36.26 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 07:37.34 | Elkano | ever used micq? |
| 07:37.57 | Qaarh | isn't that the console version of ICQ for Linux? |
| 07:38.10 | sedatedChipmunk | ~micq |
| 07:38.12 | purl | Publically available ICQ clone for the console. URL: http://phantom.iquest.net/micq/ |
| 07:38.25 | Qaarh | hehe |
| 07:39.00 | kergoth | anyone looked at making otravi's castingbar a bit more friendly for creation/positioning of arbitrary numbers of timed bars for other things than casting? like class abilities and such :) |
| 07:39.23 | kergoth | micq is nice. i prefer centericq though |
| 07:39.32 | Elkano | well, it fullfills 2/3 of tekkub's needs: text exchange and plain... simple is at discussion ;) |
| 07:39.35 | Qaarh | hmm, anyone know if they have fixed the hunter Aimed Shot animation yet? It's broken.. again |
| 07:40.01 | [MoonWolf] | hunter aimed shot is so broken all the time |
| 07:40.08 | [MoonWolf] | no casting bar, no animation |
| 07:40.09 | Qaarh | hehe |
| 07:40.12 | kergoth | haste: ping |
| 07:40.22 | Qaarh | has there ever been a casting bar? |
| 07:40.22 | [MoonWolf] | they only cue you get is that your icon is highlited. |
| 07:40.27 | Tekkub | you forgot "Works with all IM services I use" which I don't use ICQ :P |
| 07:40.28 | Elkano | I should get back to learning my crypto stuff :/ |
| 07:40.51 | kergoth | centericq supports aim and yahoo and such. dunno about jabber though |
| 07:41.20 | Qaarh | I never really understood how Jabber works.. |
| 07:41.29 | Tekkub | jabber kicks ass |
| 07:41.46 | [MoonWolf] | jabber is the one ring to rule them all. |
| 07:41.49 | Tekkub | it's more like email in that the IM server is run by you, kinda like email servers |
| 07:41.57 | Industrial | Thanks for whoever told me about AutoHotkey 30 mins ago |
| 07:41.59 | Industrial | #e::Run explorer.exe /n |
| 07:42.03 | Industrial | haleluja |
| 07:42.04 | Industrial | :D |
| 07:42.12 | Industrial | (i hate the folder view) |
| 07:42.20 | [MoonWolf] | what does /n do ? |
| 07:42.23 | Tekkub | and as an added bonus, lots of jabber servers run "transports" that will communicate with the big IM networks |
| 07:42.30 | Industrial | start without folder view |
| 07:42.43 | [MoonWolf] | ooh |
| 07:42.57 | Industrial | http://vlaurie.com/computers2/Articles/explorershortcuts.htm |
| 07:42.58 | [MoonWolf] | *edit his hotkeys blackbox plugin* |
| 07:43.00 | Qaarh | Tekkub, so that means I can use MSN and AIM through jabber as well? |
| 07:43.01 | Industrial | :) |
| 07:43.16 | [MoonWolf] | Qaarh, it means exactly that. |
| 07:43.29 | Tekkub | hey bossman, still need something to do? |
| 07:43.56 | Tekkub | Tablet tooltips in Fu still seem to ignore the dual-mon centerline in their anchoring |
| 07:44.26 | Qaarh | Dual monitor? I want |
| 07:44.41 | Tekkub | you don't have dual? I'm sooooo sorry |
| 07:44.52 | Tekkub | I miss my tri-mon |
| 07:44.55 | Qaarh | Tekkub, I haven't got space for two.. |
| 07:45.04 | Tekkub | buy a bigger desk |
| 07:45.07 | Qaarh | hah |
| 07:45.11 | Qaarh | sure, you send the $$ |
| 07:45.23 | Tekkub | get a door and milk crates |
| 07:45.38 | Qaarh | :D I should |
| 07:45.38 | Tekkub | I can get you the milk crates if you come to AR to pick em up |
| 07:45.59 | ckknight | dual monitors could not work with my setup |
| 07:46.58 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten (n=Kaelten@68.63.3.183) |
| 07:47.20 | ckknight | hey Kael |
| 07:47.23 | ckknight | how's it going? |
| 07:47.30 | sedatedChipmunk | sup hoser |
| 07:50.05 | ckknight | split |
| 07:50.05 | [MoonWolf] | stupid netsplits. |
| 07:50.05 | Qaarh | splits are no fun :( |
| 07:50.05 | Tekkub | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4925 |
| 07:50.06 | Tekkub | looks promising |
| 07:50.39 | Qaarh | very :) |
| 07:50.48 | sedatedChipmunk | oh mama |
| 07:51.29 | *** join/#wowace kergoth (i=clarson@216.237.114.82) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 07:53.17 | ckknight | hey kergoth |
| 07:53.23 | ckknight | caffeine yourself up! |
| 07:53.58 | *** join/#wowace groll (n=hepp@62.119.159.41) |
| 07:57.39 | Tekkub | it's tiny too, I'm tweaking it a tad to make it cleaner, I'll branch it and point the author to my branch |
| 07:58.13 | CIA-13 | 03moonwolf * r1367 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua: Mendeleev: Fixed a nil bug on line 205. I hope. |
| 07:58.15 | sedatedChipmunk | dat's beauty, eh |
| 07:58.44 | [MoonWolf] | Elkano, can you check that version for me ? |
| 07:59.24 | [MoonWolf] | I have been unable to reproduce the bug, but it should not happen from now on. |
| 07:59.45 | Elkano | well, the thing I had wasn't a nil bug |
| 07:59.56 | [MoonWolf] | hmm |
| 07:59.59 | [MoonWolf] | what was it then ? |
| 08:00.11 | Elkano | your algorithem to show two items per line has a bug |
| 08:00.19 | [MoonWolf] | OH THE NOES. |
| 08:00.43 | [MoonWolf] | hmm, can you give me an item that has that problem ? |
| 08:00.47 | Elkano | so if there is an odd number of trivial, easy or medium items the last item will be taken over to the next category, too |
| 08:01.21 | Elkano | the reason is that you forgot to reset tline if you addline the last, odd item |
| 08:01.35 | Elkano | (around line 265) |
| 08:01.42 | [MoonWolf] | you are correct |
| 08:02.00 | [MoonWolf] | i think i removed that line for a reason and forgot to add it back |
| 08:02.14 | [MoonWolf] | the explians why i left a blank line there for no good reason. |
| 08:02.25 | *** join/#wowace Thiana (n=Alisandr@c-24-147-41-254.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 08:02.32 | [MoonWolf] | hey Thiana |
| 08:02.36 | sedatedChipmunk | hopefully because you got distracted by your work on xraid |
| 08:03.20 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r1368 10SpecialEvents/SpecialEventsMount.lua: SpecialEvents - Duh, forgot to instanciate Gratuity in Mount module |
| 08:03.23 | *** kick/#wowace [sedatedChipmunk!n=moonwolf@f176182.upc-f.chello.nl] by [MoonWolf] (I AM NOT MOONSORROW) |
| 08:03.44 | *** join/#wowace sedatedChipmunk (n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 08:03.45 | Tekkub | kek |
| 08:03.46 | sedatedChipmunk | O_o |
| 08:03.48 | [MoonWolf] | sorry for that |
| 08:04.03 | [MoonWolf] | i just do things like that when i get annoyed. |
| 08:04.11 | Thiana | Hmm, how do you tell if a BoE item is now soulbound? |
| 08:04.17 | sedatedChipmunk | it says Soulbound |
| 08:04.18 | Thiana | Hi Moonwolf |
| 08:04.26 | Thiana | So you have to scan the tooltip? |
| 08:04.30 | [MoonWolf] | yes |
| 08:04.31 | [MoonWolf] | sadly |
| 08:04.34 | Thiana | Yuck :( |
| 08:05.09 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r1369 10/branches/MacroStop/: MacroStop - making branch path |
| 08:05.13 | *** join/#wowace Tain (n=tain@ip68-109-28-84.ri.ri.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 08:05.37 | CIA-13 | 03moonwolf * r1370 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua: Mendeleev: Added a tline = nil, back, it magically disapeared. Credit to elkano for noticing. |
| 08:05.42 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub 07Tekkub * r1371 10MacroStop/ (. MacroStop.toc MacroStop.xml): MacroStop (branches) - My tweaked, even slimmer version |
| 08:06.03 | ckknight | it's not slim if it has xml. |
| 08:06.14 | Tekkub | it has to have the XML |
| 08:06.18 | Thiana | MacroStop? |
| 08:06.23 | Tekkub | it inherits from a blizzard template |
| 08:06.28 | ckknight | :-P |
| 08:06.34 | Tekkub | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4925 |
| 08:06.44 | Tekkub | but it only has XML, no lua file :) |
| 08:07.14 | Tekkub | it's tiny, a chat edit box, a onload and an onevent with a single event registered |
| 08:07.35 | Elkano | moon, I was thinking about writing some code to create a treeview as ReagentInfo does, if you're not already into it |
| 08:07.58 | [MoonWolf] | i wont do it myself but feel free to branch mendeleev and do it yourself. |
| 08:08.25 | [MoonWolf] | i hardly ever use the ingredient view. |
| 08:08.30 | Elkano | maybe I should get a login for svn :) |
| 08:08.36 | [MoonWolf] | its more in because people want to have it. |
| 08:08.44 | kergoth | ckknight, i'm assembling the new object model as we speak :P |
| 08:08.46 | kergoth | step by step, asserts galore to unit test |
| 08:08.51 | ckknight | yay! |
| 08:08.57 | [MoonWolf] | what would we do without assert |
| 08:09.04 | [MoonWolf] | well we would use ifs... but anway. |
| 08:09.05 | ckknight | I honestly don't know. |
| 08:09.12 | ckknight | I wrote my own assert for libs |
| 08:09.21 | ckknight | it's pretty handy |
| 08:09.24 | [MoonWolf] | what is wrong with the default assert ? |
| 08:09.29 | ckknight | it throws an error in the calling code, not the lib |
| 08:09.38 | [MoonWolf] | ah |
| 08:09.57 | ckknight | yep |
| 08:10.08 | ckknight | handy for argument chacking |
| 08:10.26 | sedatedChipmunk | chacking |
| 08:10.31 | sedatedChipmunk | that's a great word |
| 08:10.54 | sedatedChipmunk | especially in conjunction with asserts |
| 08:10.56 | [MoonWolf] | you chack, i chack, we were chacking. |
| 08:10.58 | Tekkub | and there we go, offered my new code up to the author of MacroStop :) |
| 08:11.29 | ckknight | checking |
| 08:11.32 | sedatedChipmunk | wasn't I going to bed like 2h ago? |
| 08:11.34 | sedatedChipmunk | no, dude |
| 08:11.37 | sedatedChipmunk | stick with chacking |
| 08:11.42 | sedatedChipmunk | that's too awesome |
| 08:11.47 | ckknight | I chacked your mom last night |
| 08:11.50 | ckknight | all night long |
| 08:11.52 | ckknight | the chacking. |
| 08:12.23 | sedatedChipmunk | night guys (really!) |
| 08:12.28 | Industrial | nn |
| 08:12.32 | [MoonWolf] | suuuure, night. |
| 08:12.56 | kergoth | ckknight, this is a breeze. utterly painless implementation. |
| 08:13.05 | ckknight | yay! |
| 08:13.25 | Industrial | kergoth: watcha doin? |
| 08:13.35 | [MoonWolf] | kergoth, and at the lest step, you will find out that you need to rebuild it all because you made one small assumtion you should not have. |
| 08:13.45 | Industrial | hehe |
| 08:14.08 | Qaarh | I need to make a command like that that works with MediaMonkey.. hrm |
| 08:14.13 | ckknight | kergoth, a lot easier with single inheritance? |
| 08:14.26 | CIA-13 | 03ammo * r1372 10oRA_BigWigs/oRA_BigWigs.lua: oRA_BigWigs: Fixed error when msg was nil |
| 08:14.53 | Qaarh | speaking of nothing, is there a way to force an event to raise or a chat message to trigger? |
| 08:15.09 | [MoonWolf] | elk, mail cladhaire@gmail.com for an svn account if you want one. |
| 08:15.21 | Qaarh | like, if I want to trigger on some text in the chat box, but I don't want to stand near that badass boss.. |
| 08:15.44 | [Ammo] | Qaarh: that's a problem, because most message are ranged based |
| 08:16.14 | Qaarh | [Ammo], exactly my thought, is there a way to trigger them or do I have to make a debug thing for testing? |
| 08:16.16 | [Ammo] | there are plans to make BigWigs able to Synq over RaidAssist's chatchannel or via some other method, so you can still get the messages and timed bars |
| 08:16.33 | [Ammo] | Qaarh: you can'ttrigger them because you don't get them |
| 08:16.34 | ckknight | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("text") |
| 08:16.35 | Qaarh | still, you can't be down at the big bosses every time you want to test it.. |
| 08:16.45 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 08:16.51 | [Ammo] | well, that's basically how boss mods work |
| 08:16.55 | [Ammo] | be at the boss and test them |
| 08:17.06 | [Ammo] | if your guild is patient enough (or you are raidleader like me) you can force people to wait ) |
| 08:17.12 | Qaarh | ckknight, if you have something triggering on chat messages, will it catch a message that is added like that? |
| 08:17.21 | ckknight | no |
| 08:17.21 | [Ammo] | sometimes I ask the raid to take a 5 minute smokebreak while I quickly fix my code :) |
| 08:17.28 | Qaarh | hehe |
| 08:17.39 | ckknight | if you want to trigger a fake message, you can with ace |
| 08:17.41 | [Ammo] | you can do: TriggerEvent("CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_YELL", args etc ) |
| 08:17.45 | ckknight | right |
| 08:17.48 | [Ammo] | with ace you can do that |
| 08:18.31 | Qaarh | that's good |
| 08:18.34 | Tem|WoW | not really though |
| 08:18.58 | Qaarh | why not? |
| 08:19.05 | Tem|WoW | args |
| 08:19.36 | Tem|WoW | I mean that it's not a good idea to try to fake a real game event |
| 08:19.48 | Qaarh | well, for testing purposes? |
| 08:20.01 | Tem|WoW | meh |
| 08:20.07 | [Ammo] | if you want to do it for personal testing it's no problem |
| 08:20.09 | Qaarh | isnt it only shown to my client? |
| 08:20.14 | [Ammo] | since you're only bothering yourself :) |
| 08:20.22 | Tekkub | persnoal testing, call your event handler manually |
| 08:20.33 | Tekkub | if you trigger an event it's thrown at every ace addon |
| 08:21.01 | Qaarh | well, that's true I suppose.. though you will eventually have to see if it really worked on the pattern you set |
| 08:21.19 | [Ammo] | patterns you can test with commandline lua |
| 08:22.00 | Qaarh | I'm a hands on person, I suppose heh |
| 08:22.22 | kergoth | [MoonWolf], hehe, i've only implemented like 8 object models so far! can never have too many |
| 08:22.24 | kergoth | ;) |
| 08:23.19 | CIA-13 | 03tardmrr * r1373 10FinderReminder/: Initial import. |
| 08:28.53 | CIA-13 | 03ammo * r1375 10oRA_Zone/: oRA_Zone: initial import |
| 08:30.44 | CIA-13 | 03ammo * r1376 10oRA_Zone/ (oRA_Zone.lua oRA_Zone.toc oRA_Zone.xml oRA_ZoneLocals.lua): oRA_Zone: Initial import files, fixed bug reporting the oRA_Ready status after closing the zone window |
| 08:35.11 | ckknight | I need a comm lib. |
| 08:35.21 | ckknight | for kicks |
| 08:36.28 | kergoth | hehe, that was fun |
| 08:36.39 | kergoth | accidentally had part of my code setting the __index of Object to .... Object |
| 08:36.52 | kergoth | error: loop in gettable |
| 08:36.55 | ckknight | ? |
| 08:36.56 | kergoth | :) |
| 08:36.59 | ckknight | lol |
| 08:37.02 | ckknight | I think I saw that |
| 08:37.10 | ckknight | I was doing a code audit earlier |
| 08:40.25 | CIA-13 | 03ammo * r1377 10oRA_Cooldowns/oRA_Cooldowns.lua: oRA_Cooldowns: Added Disable(), and unregistering all events |
| 08:41.27 | *** join/#wowace banditron|afk (n=bandito@cpe-67-9-143-58.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 08:42.13 | [MoonWolf] | hey |
| 08:42.20 | [MoonWolf] | stupid plugin |
| 08:42.22 | [MoonWolf] | its not updating |
| 08:42.25 | ckknight | ? |
| 08:42.33 | Qaarh | [MoonWolf], or you like that song lots :D |
| 08:42.47 | [MoonWolf] | was playing something else.... |
| 08:42.55 | [MoonWolf] | thats better. |
| 08:44.19 | ckknight | for me, it's Gorillaz - Demon Days - Fire Coming Out Of The Monkey's Head |
| 08:46.33 | ckknight | I kind of want to write my comm lib without external influences like Sky |
| 08:46.45 | ckknight | fully from scratch |
| 08:53.35 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 08:56.31 | ckknight | I'm thinking about what is really "needed" in a communications library |
| 08:56.39 | ckknight | or at least in a communication "packet" |
| 08:56.55 | Codayus | Anyone got any experience with visor? Having an odd problem |
| 08:58.20 | Slayman | just ask maybe someone knows the answer |
| 08:58.27 | Slayman | and good morning btw |
| 08:59.00 | Wobin_ | What's the problem? |
| 08:59.25 | Codayus | I set up visor on one character... |
| 08:59.27 | Tekkub | hey bossman, anything come of the FuBar minimap button embeddable thing? |
| 08:59.33 | Codayus | but on the next, it doesn't seem to be working. |
| 08:59.43 | Codayus | I can't even issue visor commands - they seem to be silently ignored. |
| 09:00.01 | ckknight | Tekkub, later, not now |
| 09:00.15 | Tekkub | FINE! |
| 09:00.16 | ckknight | basically, I don't feel like working on it currently |
| 09:00.23 | ckknight | what do I call my communications lib? |
| 09:00.28 | Tekkub | I understand that |
| 09:00.28 | Wobin_ | You've checked that it's selected for that character, yeah? |
| 09:00.35 | Codayus | Wobin_: Elaborate? |
| 09:00.42 | Slayman | NOOO I did not make a new rank ;( fuck this |
| 09:00.45 | Tekkub | PartyLib (aka partyline) ? |
| 09:00.47 | Wobin_ | Addon sectoin |
| 09:00.52 | Codayus | Visor is enabled, yes. |
| 09:00.56 | Tekkub | uhm... |
| 09:01.00 | ckknight | it's not just for Parties |
| 09:01.13 | Wobin_ | Telecom |
| 09:01.14 | Thiana | Signil |
| 09:01.17 | ckknight | I want it to work for Whisper, Party, Raid, Guild, and Channel |
| 09:01.24 | Tekkub | uh..... |
| 09:01.24 | Wobin_ | Telco |
| 09:01.29 | Codayus | I *think* I know how to, say, move the Minimap around, and it worked for the first char. |
| 09:01.34 | ckknight | wasn't there a muppet obsessed with telephones? |
| 09:01.39 | Codayus | On this one I issue the command, and the minimap doesn't move. |
| 09:01.52 | Tekkub | CommieLib |
| 09:01.56 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:01.59 | Wobin_ | What's the command you're issuing? |
| 09:02.13 | Tekkub | CanYouHearMeNowLib |
| 09:02.15 | Wobin_ | In Solviet Russia, Library Embeds YOU |
| 09:02.21 | Codayus | Hmm, tried a few variants. Currently trying.... |
| 09:02.25 | Codayus | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:02.29 | ckknight | nothing strikes me yet.... |
| 09:02.30 | Tekkub | WhereYouAtDogLib ? |
| 09:02.31 | Slayman | Codayus: sounds weird, /ace list shows Visor and all it's modules (all as /visor) |
| 09:02.41 | Tekkub | uh... |
| 09:02.52 | Thiana | Does it give the 'type /help' message when you type that Coda? |
| 09:02.53 | Wobin_ | I like Telco |
| 09:02.56 | ckknight | there's always gods of communication... |
| 09:03.00 | ckknight | TelcoLib? |
| 09:03.01 | ckknight | maybe |
| 09:03.02 | Wobin_ | Apollo? |
| 09:03.04 | Tekkub | WhatsInYourWalletLib... wait no that's credit cards not cell phones |
| 09:03.13 | Wobin_ | SpeedDial? |
| 09:03.19 | Tekkub | RedialLis |
| 09:03.22 | Tekkub | *lib |
| 09:03.32 | Codayus | Nope, I get a message from Visor about MinimapCluster is now active and MinimapCluster parent is now UIParent |
| 09:03.35 | ckknight | I thought Hermes/Mercury was god of communication |
| 09:03.38 | Thiana | Insync ;) |
| 09:03.43 | Codayus | But the minimap doesn't actually move... |
| 09:03.51 | Tekkub | ChitterChatterLib |
| 09:03.58 | ckknight | ChatterLib |
| 09:03.59 | ckknight | we have it |
| 09:04.05 | Tekkub | Chitter! |
| 09:04.23 | Codayus | I tried moving unit frames...they don't move. |
| 09:04.25 | Thiana | Are there any addons loaded by the first character but not the second? Particularly ones which you used visor to move the frames on? |
| 09:04.35 | [Ammo] | WalkieTalkieLib |
| 09:04.35 | Slayman | the god of comm in greece was the little mother****** with wings at his feet named mercury |
| 09:04.39 | Wobin_ | Codayus: I advise you use the keybindings for the nudge commands |
| 09:04.44 | Tekkub | SquelchLib |
| 09:04.46 | ckknight | Slayman, Hermes in Greek |
| 09:04.51 | Codayus | I tried using the nudge in VisorGUI - that didn't work. |
| 09:04.54 | Slayman | so mercury in ROME |
| 09:04.59 | ckknight | I like ChatterLib |
| 09:05.06 | Codayus | Thiana: Uh....don't *think* so....hm |
| 09:05.07 | [Ammo] | or UhuruLib? aka the comm officer from Star Trek |
| 09:05.11 | ckknight | lol. |
| 09:05.16 | Slayman | what about LipLib |
| 09:05.16 | Wobin_ | [Ammo]: That's a bit obscure =P |
| 09:05.21 | Slayman | TonguesLIb |
| 09:05.21 | Tekkub | Uhuru could work |
| 09:05.26 | Tekkub | SubSpaceLib |
| 09:05.36 | Wobin_ | FTLLib |
| 09:05.39 | Slayman | SubliminalMessagingLib |
| 09:05.51 | Codayus | The nudge keybindings give me the message "the frame cannot be moved any further in that direction" |
| 09:05.58 | Slayman | Tekkub: i like UHURU |
| 09:06.02 | ckknight | I'm thinking it'll work on an events system, you register a chat "event", and when you get it, the function you register with is passed a table |
| 09:06.09 | Tekkub | DirecTVLib |
| 09:06.12 | Thiana | I think he's picked ChatterLib ;) |
| 09:06.15 | ckknight | yea |
| 09:06.18 | ckknight | a while ago |
| 09:06.23 | Slayman | chatterlib sucks |
| 09:06.23 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 09:06.28 | ckknight | your mom sucks. |
| 09:06.28 | Tekkub | we can still brainstorm, maybe something else will pop out |
| 09:06.32 | ckknight | yea |
| 09:06.35 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 09:06.40 | Tekkub | ammosmomsuckslib |
| 09:06.40 | ckknight | if something comes up better than ChatterLib, then I'll go with it |
| 09:06.47 | Slayman | no she doesn't, at least i hope she doesn't |
| 09:06.53 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:06.56 | ckknight | purl sucks |
| 09:06.58 | purl | Look who's talking |
| 09:07.00 | ckknight | woot. |
| 09:07.01 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:07.06 | [Ammo] | ckknight: if it's a good lib we can convert oRA to use it |
| 09:07.06 | Wobin_ | SemaphoreLib |
| 09:07.11 | ckknight | cool |
| 09:07.15 | [Ammo] | but it should be a good lib |
| 09:07.16 | Codayus | Picking random frames, it appears I can nudge...nothing. |
| 09:07.17 | Industrial | MakeBlueberrywaffleLib |
| 09:07.20 | Tekkub | 5BarsLib |
| 09:07.24 | ckknight | I want to make it efficient (memory + cpu-wise) |
| 09:07.31 | Wobin_ | FiveByFiveLib |
| 09:07.41 | Tekkub | Live365Lib |
| 09:07.44 | [MoonWolf] | how could i do a svn external in tortoise again ? |
| 09:07.45 | [Ammo] | currently oRA works pretty well |
| 09:07.45 | Industrial | Codayus: did you set the keys? :P |
| 09:07.48 | Slayman | BlackJackLib |
| 09:07.49 | Codayus | Yes |
| 09:07.51 | [Ammo] | no clue in tortoise |
| 09:07.54 | Wobin_ | set the properties on the folder itself |
| 09:07.59 | [Ammo] | but you can do: svn propedit svn:externals . |
| 09:08.03 | Tekkub | RingerLib |
| 09:08.06 | [Ammo] | and then it opens an editor |
| 09:08.11 | Industrial | StfuLib |
| 09:08.13 | Codayus | Hmmm. |
| 09:08.14 | Tekkub | AnnoyingRingtoneLib |
| 09:08.17 | Industrial | PlzLib |
| 09:08.18 | Codayus | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:08.27 | Codayus | reloaded UI...reentered all visor settings from a script |
| 09:08.33 | [Ammo] | and you put in: WhatevertheHellLib http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/WhatevertheHellLib/ |
| 09:08.35 | Codayus | and it works...for the moment |
| 09:08.38 | ckknight | yea, I think you communicate by passing "tables" |
| 09:08.44 | [Ammo] | that worked for me Moonwolf |
| 09:08.44 | ckknight | compost style |
| 09:08.54 | Wobin_ | Codayus: Very odd |
| 09:08.58 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 09:09.01 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 09:09.03 | [MoonWolf] | [Ammo], thanks, wil try that. |
| 09:09.18 | Tekkub | ModulateLib |
| 09:09.28 | Tekkub | Demodulate?ib |
| 09:09.31 | Tekkub | ModemLib! |
| 09:09.32 | [Ammo] | or in the case of metrognome or compost: CompostLib http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/CompostLib/Lib/ |
| 09:09.42 | ckknight | that's what it'll be for me |
| 09:09.46 | [Ammo] | which gives you a CompostLib dir in your addon dir |
| 09:09.47 | ckknight | I use the /Lib deal |
| 09:09.52 | Wobin_ | [MoonWolf]: Rightclick on the folder ->select properties -> TortoiseSVN tab ->svn:external from the dropdown |
| 09:10.00 | ckknight | I dunno, maybe I'll allow both flat tables and single values |
| 09:10.11 | Tekkub | MultiplexorLib |
| 09:10.14 | Codayus | Okay, changing chars...maybe it'll stay working... |
| 09:10.33 | Tekkub | IMLib? |
| 09:10.43 | Tekkub | they're kinda lil IM packets of data |
| 09:10.45 | ckknight | seems overdone |
| 09:10.46 | Tekkub | PacketLib |
| 09:10.59 | Tekkub | SugarPacketLib |
| 09:10.59 | ckknight | PacketLib is kinda close to what it's doing |
| 09:11.05 | ckknight | SweetNLow |
| 09:11.10 | Tekkub | wait... we're close... |
| 09:11.15 | Tekkub | that's it... |
| 09:11.19 | Tekkub | SweetNLib |
| 09:11.25 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:11.34 | Tekkub | it's perfect |
| 09:12.13 | ckknight | I'm still not satisfied |
| 09:12.15 | ckknight | although amused |
| 09:12.17 | [Ammo] | UhuruLib! |
| 09:12.27 | ckknight | I never watched Star Trek |
| 09:12.30 | Tekkub | aw, I think SweetNLib is great |
| 09:12.34 | ckknight | all I know is that she's black |
| 09:12.37 | Slayman | [x] vote for UhuruLip ! |
| 09:12.52 | Slayman | she was the comm officer |
| 09:12.57 | [MoonWolf] | cant we be modern |
| 09:13.09 | Industrial | what is 'it' anyway |
| 09:13.10 | Tekkub | who was comm officer on TNG? |
| 09:13.10 | [MoonWolf] | what it the asian chick from enterprise called again: hoshilib. |
| 09:13.12 | Tekkub | Data? |
| 09:13.16 | Tekkub | DataloreLib |
| 09:13.30 | Tekkub | HoshiLib could work too |
| 09:13.36 | Industrial | WhatLib? |
| 09:13.45 | Tekkub | HuhLib |
| 09:13.53 | [MoonWolf] | wholib ? |
| 09:13.55 | Industrial | WhatsItDoLib |
| 09:13.55 | Slayman | asian chick? |
| 09:14.03 | [Ammo] | zomgchannelsLib |
| 09:14.03 | Slayman | this "new series"? |
| 09:14.08 | ckknight | yes, I'd prefer an Asia chick. |
| 09:14.10 | Slayman | sucks big time |
| 09:14.12 | ckknight | Asian* |
| 09:14.14 | [Ammo] | go oldschool, use Uhuru |
| 09:14.16 | ckknight | they tend to be tighter |
| 09:14.27 | Industrial | wtf are we talking about |
| 09:14.30 | ckknight | Industrial, communications lib |
| 09:14.30 | Industrial | 4th time |
| 09:14.31 | Tekkub | Enterprise started to get good, then they ended it a few seasons too early, the tards |
| 09:14.34 | [MoonWolf] | yes, asian girl that was on enterprise, had multiple lesbian innuendo scenes with a the vulcan chick. |
| 09:14.36 | Wobin_ | CommBadgeLib |
| 09:14.40 | Tekkub | WtfLib |
| 09:14.47 | Industrial | what does it do |
| 09:14.48 | Tekkub | RelayLib |
| 09:14.52 | [MoonWolf] | especialy in season 1 |
| 09:14.53 | Thiana | You guys are strange... |
| 09:14.57 | [MoonWolf] | sure we are. |
| 09:14.57 | ckknight | Industrial, handles communications between clients |
| 09:15.01 | Industrial | by chat? |
| 09:15.03 | ckknight | yes |
| 09:15.05 | Industrial | booo |
| 09:15.06 | Industrial | :( |
| 09:15.07 | Tekkub | MegaphoneLib |
| 09:15.08 | Wobin_ | ChannelLib |
| 09:15.09 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:15.13 | ckknight | MegaphoneLib.... |
| 09:15.14 | *** topic/#wowace by [MoonWolf] -> |wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com |Disclaimer: We are strange, don't say we did not warn you. |
| 09:15.14 | Industrial | methinks thats evil |
| 09:15.20 | ckknight | why? |
| 09:15.26 | Industrial | because its useful spam |
| 09:15.29 | Wobin_ | It's the only effective way =P |
| 09:15.30 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:15.42 | [MoonWolf] | Hoshilib is what i would go for. |
| 09:15.51 | Tekkub | WatsonLib |
| 09:15.52 | ckknight | I have no idea what that is |
| 09:15.56 | Tekkub | GrahmBellLib |
| 09:15.56 | Industrial | i think its abusing the chat |
| 09:16.13 | ckknight | :-P |
| 09:16.16 | Tekkub | GrahmCrackerLib |
| 09:16.20 | ckknight | it's Graham |
| 09:16.20 | Tekkub | CrackerLib |
| 09:16.23 | Industrial | thats why i dont like CTRA either |
| 09:16.26 | [Ammo] | Industrial: well if you have a suitable alternative... :p |
| 09:16.26 | Tekkub | CrackerAssLib |
| 09:16.28 | Industrial | (and oRa, for that matter) |
| 09:16.36 | Tekkub | AssCrackLib |
| 09:16.37 | Industrial | yeah, dont! |
| 09:16.49 | Tekkub | okey, derailed someone get me going on something else |
| 09:16.57 | ckknight | Prayer is like communicating with God |
| 09:17.06 | ckknight | and Schizophrenia is like God communicating with you... |
| 09:17.07 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:17.11 | Slayman | I'm too lazy to optimise my BandAid :( |
| 09:17.14 | Tekkub | ScitzoLib |
| 09:17.27 | Tekkub | MessengerLib |
| 09:17.29 | Industrial | ChanComLib |
| 09:17.30 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 09:17.43 | ckknight | Industrial, doesn't necessarily have to use channels |
| 09:17.57 | [Ammo] | ckknight: does TopScoreFu give you overhead messages if you get a new record? |
| 09:18.00 | Industrial | but really, i'd be more proud as a guild if you wouldnt use a raid addon |
| 09:18.03 | Industrial | and be successful |
| 09:18.03 | ckknight | yes, [Ammo] |
| 09:18.06 | [Ammo] | good |
| 09:18.07 | Tekkub | ChannelSurferLib (jab at Sea to boot) |
| 09:18.13 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:18.18 | ckknight | yes, down with Sea |
| 09:18.23 | [Ammo] | SurfLib then :p |
| 09:18.23 | ckknight | why don't they use locals in Sea? |
| 09:18.27 | Tekkub | BottomOfTheSeaLib |
| 09:18.27 | ckknight | I was checking it out |
| 09:18.34 | ckknight | Sea is for other stuff |
| 09:18.37 | Tekkub | SeaweedLib |
| 09:18.37 | ckknight | Sky is for comm |
| 09:18.43 | Tekkub | oh yea, sky... |
| 09:18.48 | Tekkub | dur |
| 09:18.51 | ckknight | Satellite |
| 09:18.54 | Tekkub | CloudLib |
| 09:18.58 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:19.03 | Tekkub | SatelLib |
| 09:19.16 | Tekkub | SepirothLib |
| 09:19.28 | [Ammo] | NORAD |
| 09:19.30 | Tekkub | BirdieLib |
| 09:19.40 | Tekkub | CarrierPigeonLib |
| 09:19.43 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 09:19.45 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:19.46 | Tekkub | PigeonLib |
| 09:19.47 | Slayman | ShangTsungLib |
| 09:20.00 | [MoonWolf] | okay when i try to set http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/PeriodicTable/ as an external i get an error .... |
| 09:20.05 | ckknight | PidginLib |
| 09:20.05 | [MoonWolf] | what am i doing wrong.... |
| 09:20.12 | ckknight | play on words |
| 09:20.21 | Tekkub | you need to pull each subfolder you want |
| 09:20.36 | [MoonWolf] | damnit |
| 09:20.39 | Tekkub | and you need to update before you commit, to make sure it works |
| 09:20.48 | [MoonWolf] | that is stupid, i want all of it. |
| 09:21.10 | Tekkub | you only need three ass, and you don't want the files in the root folder |
| 09:21.18 | Wobin_ | CableLib |
| 09:21.26 | Tekkub | MoonWolfIsDumbLib |
| 09:21.28 | [Ammo] | ShoutLib |
| 09:21.28 | [MoonWolf] | cat5lib |
| 09:21.33 | Tekkub | WoonMolfLib |
| 09:21.36 | Tekkub | MolfLib |
| 09:21.39 | Industrial | can we take thise somewhere else please? |
| 09:21.40 | Wobin_ | I like cat5lib =P |
| 09:21.45 | Wobin_ | er. |
| 09:21.48 | Wobin_ | Where =P |
| 09:21.51 | Industrial | kinda spammy |
| 09:21.53 | Industrial | dont care |
| 09:21.54 | Industrial | #test |
| 09:21.58 | Wobin_ | Bugger off then |
| 09:22.05 | Wobin_ | We're trying to be constructive |
| 09:22.11 | ckknight | SpamLib |
| 09:22.11 | Industrial | yeah right |
| 09:22.12 | ckknight | :-P |
| 09:22.13 | [Ammo] | and have some fun on the side |
| 09:22.13 | [MoonWolf] | wait, we are ? |
| 09:22.15 | Tekkub | yea, sod off you grass! |
| 09:22.22 | Industrial | SPamLib, ckknight you win |
| 09:22.24 | Industrial | the end |
| 09:22.27 | Industrial | Tekkub: shhh |
| 09:22.37 | Tekkub | IndieWhinesTooMuchLib |
| 09:22.44 | [Ammo] | poor industrial, didn't have enough coffee today? |
| 09:22.47 | Tekkub | MumbleLib |
| 09:22.51 | Industrial | coffee sucks |
| 09:22.59 | Tekkub | MurmurLib |
| 09:23.03 | ckknight | MumbleLib's not bad |
| 09:23.03 | [Ammo] | ok, not enough sex last night/this morning? |
| 09:23.07 | Tekkub | SmokeSignalLib |
| 09:23.11 | Industrial | no, actually :-) |
| 09:23.31 | Tekkub | SyndicationLib |
| 09:23.34 | Tekkub | no... |
| 09:23.36 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 09:23.37 | Wobin_ | RSSLib? |
| 09:23.37 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, slightly more then 3... since all the elements are in subdirs too. |
| 09:23.49 | Industrial | SpamLib |
| 09:23.51 | Tekkub | you only need the elem folder you twat |
| 09:23.54 | Industrial | i vote for that |
| 09:23.58 | Tekkub | it'll get the others :P |
| 09:24.02 | Industrial | (see im constructive too) |
| 09:24.04 | [MoonWolf] | i cant importat you bitch. |
| 09:24.10 | Tekkub | you don't get a vote, you forfitted it |
| 09:24.11 | [MoonWolf] | import that* |
| 09:24.16 | [Ammo] | mudfight! |
| 09:24.28 | Tekkub | MudWrestlingLib |
| 09:24.33 | [MoonWolf] | wait, im not getting a a pubble of mud with him! |
| 09:24.43 | [Ammo] | in the left corner we haev Tekkub, in the right corner we have moonwolf! |
| 09:24.45 | [Ammo] | FIGHT! |
| 09:24.48 | Codayus | Okay, I cant get visor working for more than one character at a time... |
| 09:24.55 | [MoonWolf] | kamehamehaaaaaa! |
| 09:25.06 | Wobin_ | Codayus: That's really odd |
| 09:25.11 | [Ammo] | codayus: set the profile for it to all |
| 09:25.15 | [Ammo] | it should work afaik |
| 09:25.18 | Codayus | It is. :-/ |
| 09:25.18 | Wobin_ | Did you have profiles set on the original character? |
| 09:25.22 | Tekkub | EchoEchoEchoLib |
| 09:25.33 | Tekkub | wait.. ECHOEcheechoLib |
| 09:25.34 | Codayus | Now trying seperate profiles, I guess. |
| 09:26.01 | ckknight | EchoLib wouldn't be bad |
| 09:26.21 | Industrial | wtf would you need it for tho |
| 09:26.22 | Tekkub | CharlieNinerLib |
| 09:26.27 | [MoonWolf] | we could name it after the ip over avian carrier RFC |
| 09:26.39 | [MoonWolf] | only i forgot the number for that RFC |
| 09:26.41 | Tekkub | RogerTangoBravoLib |
| 09:26.51 | ckknight | Indie, stop being so whiny, if you don't like the idea, then feel free not to use it later |
| 09:27.01 | ckknight | Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. |
| 09:27.09 | Tekkub | BogyLib |
| 09:27.13 | [MoonWolf] | rfc1149lib |
| 09:27.23 | [MoonWolf] | http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt |
| 09:27.27 | ckknight | AvianFluLib! |
| 09:28.02 | Tekkub | H5N1Lib |
| 09:28.09 | Tekkub | (aka avian flu) |
| 09:28.32 | Tekkub | PushToTalkLib |
| 09:29.03 | Tekkub | AdHocLib |
| 09:29.24 | kergoth | ckknight, playing around, http://ace.pastebin.com/695763 looks like the example usage with the current incarnation (not showing usage of mixins yet, just basic class/object bits) |
| 09:29.38 | ckknight | :-) |
| 09:30.01 | Tekkub | RambleLib |
| 09:30.09 | Tekkub | Jibberishlib |
| 09:30.23 | Tekkub | BabbleLib... oh wait |
| 09:30.45 | Industrial | its hard to say nothing |
| 09:30.45 | Industrial | :P |
| 09:30.46 | ckknight | you need to supply tables for init, or is that just an example? |
| 09:31.09 | kergoth | just an example, currently only passing one argument along, will change to a fixed # of args, 20 or something |
| 09:31.22 | Tekkub | MorseLib |
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| 09:31.33 | Industrial | all hide! |
| 09:31.44 | ckknight | okay, kergoth |
| 09:31.48 | ckknight | hey NeT |
| 09:32.03 | Tekkub | hide, god is coming and she is FAT |
| 09:32.15 | Codayus | Okay, per char visor profiles SEEM to be working. |
| 09:32.40 | Codayus | Can anyone point me to some info on getting visor bars to swap when I chance stances? |
| 09:32.40 | kergoth | we could ditch the direct calls to the parent class's prototype's init method in favor of a super() type syntax, but i'm not sure if i like that, because the semantics of the argument passing of your parent is already highly dependent upon what class your parent is.... to pretend it doesnt matter would be bad |
| 09:32.41 | Tekkub | TelegramLib |
| 09:32.55 | Tekkub | WesternUnionLib |
| 09:32.56 | ckknight | TelegramLib's not bad |
| 09:33.34 | ckknight | kergoth, doing Parent.prototype.init(self, ...) isn't bad |
| 09:33.45 | ckknight | maybe... |
| 09:33.46 | Tekkub | TelegramLib or EchoLib are my favs so far... Beside SweetNLib |
| 09:33.48 | ckknight | idea |
| 09:33.55 | ckknight | have super be a reference to Parent.prototype |
| 09:35.05 | ckknight | so you do: |
| 09:35.05 | ckknight | super.init(self, ...) |
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| 09:35.06 | Tekkub | if you don't use it I'll find something to name SweetNLib eventually :) |
| 09:35.07 | [MoonWolf] | this new system better have a lot of syntatic sugar. |
| 09:35.07 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:35.21 | ckknight | with super.init(self, ...), it'd be pretty cool |
| 09:35.25 | ckknight | and no argument badness |
| 09:35.58 | Tekkub | ugh... gonna go try to nap on the couch for a few hours |
| 09:36.42 | CIA-13 | 03devla 07Devla * r1378 10AceHeal/AceHeal/ (AceHeal.lua Changelog.txt): |
| 09:36.42 | CIA-13 | AceHeal:Modified Tooltip check slightly to fix line 324 errors |
| 09:36.42 | CIA-13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:36.42 | CIA-13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:37.28 | kergoth | ckknight, the way i have it right now, all the constructors are expecting 'self' to be the class and the first argument to be the actual object being initialized... given that... super:init() could be a valid syntax. i could store the super reference in the function environment |
| 09:37.37 | Codayus | ARG |
| 09:37.43 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:37.47 | Codayus | No, still can't get visor to work for more than one char. |
| 09:38.11 | ckknight | I like it |
| 09:38.19 | CIA-13 | 03moonwolf * r1379 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.lua Mendeleev.toc): Mendeleev: Preparing for externals. |
| 09:39.22 | CIA-13 | 03moonwolf * r1380 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua: Mendeleev: Stupid mistake on my part. *fixed* |
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| 09:40.12 | kergoth | ckknight, less "magic", more explicit. on the other hand, if i'm creating function environments anyway, a super() function can easily look up the current class in the function environment... but then we require that functioncall, and we're back to the super('init', self, foo) syntax or whatever, which would work too |
| 09:41.18 | ckknight | I think using super.func(self, ...) or super:func(...) would be the "cleanest" from my standpoint |
| 09:42.33 | kergoth | the only consequence of that is that your constructors are declared slightly differently, due to the differing args |
| 09:42.41 | kergoth | function foo.prototype:init(newobject, args) |
| 09:42.49 | kergoth | rather than function foo.prototype:init(args) |
| 09:42.52 | kergoth | which seems fine |
| 09:43.58 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:44.02 | ckknight | why? |
| 09:44.19 | ckknight | oh... |
| 09:44.20 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:44.24 | kergoth | because self is the table the init function is in, the class we're at |
| 09:44.39 | kergoth | its still a hierarchy. a->b->c->d .. we have to know where along that we are, to pick the next one |
| 09:44.49 | kergoth | a ref to the object alone isnt enough, it doesnt give us that state |
| 09:45.07 | ckknight | so you'd do super:func(self, ...) ? |
| 09:45.26 | kergoth | no, you'd do super:func(newobject, ...) |
| 09:45.34 | kergoth | the next class in the chain doesnt care who -you- are |
| 09:46.01 | kergoth | the key is to pass a ref to the next class in the chain to that next function. by using :, we're passing along that state |
| 09:46.21 | ckknight | I see |
| 09:46.32 | kergoth | consider this: self is the current class in the chain, newobject is the object being initialized, and super is the next class in the chain |
| 09:46.33 | ckknight | so newobject will be the "new" self? |
| 09:46.41 | ckknight | oh, okay |
| 09:46.45 | ckknight | works for me |
| 09:47.18 | ckknight | I like super:func(newobj, ...), then |
| 09:47.48 | kergoth | yeah. i dont mind it being highly explicit, because the expected arguments is already that explicit |
| 09:50.05 | kergoth`zzz | ckknight, i'll get this checked in in the morning |
| 09:50.11 | ckknight | okay |
| 10:01.26 | haste | kergoth`zzz: pong |
| 10:02.26 | [MoonWolf] | a little late dont you think. |
| 10:03.33 | Codayus | wtf |
| 10:03.49 | Industrial | hi haste |
| 10:03.54 | Codayus | Got visor set up... did a reload ui...and it didn't come back right |
| 10:03.58 | Industrial | so how is otravi_ExperienceBar coming along? |
| 10:04.20 | haste | Industrial: not even started :D |
| 10:04.23 | Industrial | haste: xD |
| 10:04.28 | haste | since I haven't gotten that far in the cycle yet |
| 10:04.46 | Industrial | Codayus: weird, visor has worked fine with me for .. a .. cant even remember how long |
| 10:05.04 | Industrial | august 05 ?:P |
| 10:05.09 | [Ammo] | haste: get the mirror bars working with grow up and grown down feature from the standard castbar and you've got an excellent addon :) |
| 10:05.11 | Codayus | Industrial: Help me then? :-) |
| 10:05.19 | [Ammo] | it's excellent already, but that would make it perfect :) |
| 10:05.23 | Industrial | Codayus: Im at work so i can only help a bit |
| 10:05.27 | Codayus | :-( |
| 10:05.31 | Industrial | :( |
| 10:06.15 | Industrial | haste: and a switch to switch between your texture and the 'normal' one (that someone suggested in the forum) |
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| 10:06.27 | haste | Industrial: didn't I answer yes to that :p ? |
| 10:06.31 | Industrial | i prefer the mornal one |
| 10:06.32 | Industrial | :D |
| 10:06.36 | haste | Industrial: at least in my mind I did |
| 10:06.40 | Industrial | haste: ;) |
| 10:06.47 | haste | Industrial: going to add: default, otravi and perl as choies |
| 10:06.50 | Codayus | So I issue some visor commands to move my minimap...and it moves. I /relaodui...it moves BACK to default. |
| 10:06.52 | Industrial | gud |
| 10:06.57 | Codayus | I issue the commands again, and it doesn't move. |
| 10:06.58 | Wobin_ | Codayus: All I can suggest is to keybind the "focus frame under cursor" and "nudge up/down/left/right" bindings |
| 10:07.17 | Industrial | Codayus: might be something after visor that moves it back? |
| 10:07.18 | Codayus | And trying to nudge it gives a message about "unable to move any further" |
| 10:07.32 | Industrial | woa >_o |
| 10:07.38 | Industrial | dunno there :( |
| 10:08.30 | Codayus | Nothing else is messing with the minimap... |
| 10:08.36 | Codayus | and when it breaks, I can no longer move ANY frame. |
| 10:08.49 | Industrial | haste: i started on the main bar plugin for my bar addon, but soon realized i coudlnt create action buttons like *snap* |
| 10:09.14 | Industrial | Codayus: my wow used to break when i moved my minimap out fo screen |
| 10:09.26 | Industrial | Codayus: it would want to paint somewhere offscreen and crash wow |
| 10:09.32 | Industrial | Codayus: since then havent tried |
| 10:09.39 | Codayus | Well, I'm just moving it closer to the middle... :-/ |
| 10:10.18 | Industrial | try /vz set f=Minimap pr=UIParent p1=CENTER p2=CENTER x=0 y=0, and move from there :P |
| 10:10.48 | Codayus | That doesn't make the minimap move. :-( |
| 10:11.13 | Codayus | It does if I reset all visor settings. |
| 10:11.27 | Codayus | But it'll fail afterwards. |
| 10:13.33 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 10:13.57 | Industrial | >_o |
| 10:13.58 | Codayus | It's almost as if Lucen Unit Frames are messing something up... |
| 10:14.04 | Codayus | testing without them. |
| 10:14.11 | Industrial | tiggle them off |
| 10:14.13 | Industrial | toggle* |
| 10:16.13 | haste | Industrial: :----/ |
| 10:16.24 | haste | s///(/ |
| 10:16.29 | haste | aaw :( |
| 10:16.56 | Thiana | :-/ |
| 10:17.03 | Thiana | s/\//(/ |
| 10:17.09 | Industrial | yeah you basically make a 'check button' or something, and then give it other frames like button binding and timeout etc |
| 10:17.15 | Industrial | lotsa work |
| 10:17.16 | Industrial | but |
| 10:17.19 | haste | that might work better :/ |
| 10:17.24 | Industrial | i never copy paste from other people |
| 10:17.26 | haste | s/\//)/ |
| 10:17.30 | haste | nope :p |
| 10:17.44 | Industrial | because that makes me dependent on them |
| 10:17.46 | Industrial | even though it doesnt |
| 10:17.57 | Industrial | when they update i'd want to copy over the new version |
| 10:18.05 | Industrial | (i know i will :P) |
| 10:18.08 | Industrial | so i dont.. |
| 10:18.44 | Industrial | food time |
| 10:18.47 | Thiana | ~emulate kergoth |
| 10:18.52 | purl | Hmm... I know I was supposed to be doing something. I wonder what it was. |
| 10:19.04 | haste | you want to be comforted or patted no |
| 10:19.17 | haste | damn typos |
| 10:19.19 | Thiana | How strange. |
| 10:19.26 | Codayus | Okay, Lucen Unit frames seem to be messing up visor. Or my visor setup anyhow...which was attempting to move some of the unit frames around |
| 10:19.27 | Thiana | s/How/Very/ |
| 10:19.33 | Thiana | :-/ |
| 10:19.39 | Thiana | s/\//(/ |
| 10:20.12 | haste | Codayus: I move my frames around with Visor, and they basicly have the same code as it :O |
| 10:20.30 | Codayus | Okay, I must be moving them around wrong. :-( |
| 10:21.22 | haste | Codayus: I know if you move them with blizzard cache first, then with visor - things get nasty |
| 10:22.03 | [Ammo] | Tekkub: any idea when PRT will have TargetOfTarget support? other than that it's just perfect, allowed me to shout at people over vent |
| 10:22.15 | [Ammo] | 'why are 6 people targetting Add1 while you should be on add2!' |
| 10:23.11 | haste | haha.. I wasn't on VT yesterday when we were playing with C'Thun |
| 10:23.45 | haste | but I did write a bigwigs for it... and on our little VT they were screaming: Incoming tentacle rape party :p |
| 10:23.56 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 10:24.06 | [Ammo] | commit the bigwigs into the SVN |
| 10:24.13 | [Ammo] | if it's clean :p |
| 10:24.44 | [Ammo] | oh which reminds me |
| 10:24.55 | [Ammo] | need to add assistme support to oRA_MainTank |
| 10:24.58 | [Ammo] | will do that now |
| 10:25.20 | haste | [Ammo]: oRA_Assist |
| 10:25.25 | [Ammo] | well |
| 10:25.32 | haste | but it should be in MT :) |
| 10:25.33 | [Ammo] | it only works for MT's |
| 10:25.45 | [Ammo] | oh is there an oRA_Assist already? |
| 10:26.00 | haste | yeah, I did a quick job on it a couple of days ago |
| 10:26.03 | Codayus | Yeah, but it just receives, not send, right? |
| 10:26.14 | haste | I'm discussing with myself if it should be in oRA_MT or not tho' |
| 10:26.20 | [Ammo] | it should be in oRA_MT |
| 10:26.28 | [Ammo] | since assisting stuff works with the MT's |
| 10:26.29 | haste | the RL part is pretty heavy :p |
| 10:26.35 | [Ammo] | oh hmm |
| 10:26.38 | [Ammo] | well |
| 10:26.41 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 10:26.45 | haste | CT_RATargeting.lua |
| 10:27.03 | [Ammo] | I just did a checkout |
| 10:27.05 | [Ammo] | checking it now |
| 10:27.07 | Tekkub | Ammo: meh, whenever, I got other mods I want to work on right now |
| 10:27.34 | [Ammo] | hmmok |
| 10:27.40 | Tekkub | it's gonna be damn minimal support, too, fyi |
| 10:27.40 | [Ammo] | maybe I'll try and add it myself |
| 10:27.45 | [Ammo] | oh that's ok |
| 10:27.54 | Tekkub | ToT frames are something I consider "bloat" |
| 10:28.01 | [Ammo] | I only want the name % and option to click on them |
| 10:28.04 | Tekkub | I'd rather see a PRToT mod |
| 10:28.28 | Tekkub | that shows all targetted raid members like PRT does of al known targets |
| 10:28.28 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 10:28.38 | [Ammo] | PRT is a bit 'wide' atm too |
| 10:28.53 | Tekkub | I mean, do you really need to know who's targetted by what, or simply the fact they're targetted? |
| 10:29.01 | [Ammo] | I need to know who's targetted by what |
| 10:29.10 | Tekkub | why? :P |
| 10:29.20 | [Ammo] | to yell at them |
| 10:29.32 | Thiana | Would be nice to know that the other mob the tank is offtanking is attacking the priest ;) |
| 10:29.38 | Tekkub | if they're a tank you know from PRT |
| 10:29.53 | [Ammo] | what thiana says |
| 10:29.56 | Tekkub | if they're not does it matter what's targetted them, they shouldn't be targetted at all... |
| 10:30.17 | Codayus | Imagine a fight with a boss that does massive damage, and some adds that do very little. I might want to shield any squishy who gets targeted by the boss, but ignore anyone who gets targeted by the adds |
| 10:30.43 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 10:30.48 | [Ammo] | and for a fight like broodlord, I need to know who broodlord is targetting |
| 10:30.57 | [Ammo] | since there is a lot of tank rotation going on |
| 10:31.00 | Codayus | Can't think of an actual fight like that offhand though. |
| 10:31.11 | Tekkub | okey ammo, if you add it in here's my only request |
| 10:31.17 | Tekkub | don't duplicate info |
| 10:31.17 | Codayus | I guess spider boss in ZG might be a *little* like that. |
| 10:31.37 | Tekkub | only show the ToT on the first tank targetting that mob, not every tank targetting it |
| 10:31.50 | Codayus | ZOMG WTF. Enable LUF. Enter game...visor fails. Exit game. Diable LUF. Enter game...visor works. |
| 10:31.52 | [Ammo] | for instance a priest would like to keep an eye on the current tank of broodlord, but as soon as broodlord switches target you need to switch too |
| 10:32.07 | [Ammo] | Tekkub: that sounds good |
| 10:32.16 | Tekkub | yea but you can already tell that with prt the way it's set up |
| 10:32.27 | Tekkub | tank colors change |
| 10:32.41 | [Ammo] | it's unclear atm |
| 10:32.50 | Tekkub | and don't show the ToT frame if the target is the tank already |
| 10:32.59 | Tekkub | but do show every tank's HP% |
| 10:33.01 | Tekkub | :) |
| 10:33.08 | [Ammo] | tank % is a good idea |
| 10:33.26 | Tekkub | the ToT should only pop up if the target is NOT a tank |
| 10:33.36 | Tekkub | or if you have no tanks at all |
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| 10:33.56 | [Ammo] | it should show on the first tank I think |
| 10:34.09 | Tekkub | does the non-tanking color need darkened to be more noticable or something? |
| 10:34.12 | [Ammo] | a name is so much more visual than a color change |
| 10:34.25 | [Ammo] | since the names are obscured by the mobname atm |
| 10:34.29 | [Ammo] | and only show if you hover |
| 10:34.46 | [Ammo] | it's a matter of preference I know |
| 10:34.47 | Tekkub | frankly the whole tank support is something I don't like cause it duplicates mobs |
| 10:35.05 | Tekkub | I'd rather it be one mob one line, show target to the side |
| 10:35.36 | [Ammo] | you could do that, or make a toggle for that |
| 10:35.43 | Tekkub | I added tank support cause a lot wanted it, I think it's kinda unneeded in the context of how PRT was designed to work |
| 10:35.45 | [Ammo] | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:36.04 | Tekkub | cause really, the whole tank thing STARTED because noone had a better way to designate targets |
| 10:36.21 | Tekkub | I'm gonna just add in an option to not look for tanks I think |
| 10:36.28 | [Ammo] | that would work |
| 10:36.38 | Tekkub | just act in "party" mode all the time if it's on |
| 10:36.47 | [Ammo] | I'd still use the tanks, just to see if my warriors are doing their job |
| 10:37.02 | Tekkub | yea, from the leaders POV sure |
| 10:37.06 | [Ammo] | setting up MT's is done by the tanks themselves atm in our raid |
| 10:37.15 | Tekkub | from the DPS's POV, I don't give a rat's ass about tanks |
| 10:37.16 | [Ammo] | yeah that's what I'm constantly looking from the leaders PoV |
| 10:37.19 | Tekkub | I care about targets |
| 10:37.23 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 10:37.31 | Tekkub | and from a healers POV.... |
| 10:37.39 | [Ammo] | healers PoV the ToT's matter |
| 10:37.48 | Tekkub | you care about the current MT and your assigned party/class/whatever to heal |
| 10:38.00 | [Ammo] | or whatever the current TOT is |
| 10:38.05 | Tekkub | yea by MT I mean "he who is tanking the mob" |
| 10:38.09 | [Ammo] | ah ok :) |
| 10:38.15 | Tekkub | not "he who is SUPPOSED to be tanking" |
| 10:38.52 | [Ammo] | all in all PRT is working smoooth |
| 10:39.01 | [Ammo] | I'm using perfectraid, prt and ora atm |
| 10:39.05 | [Ammo] | and leading raids :) |
| 10:39.10 | [Ammo] | as well as bigwigs ofcourse |
| 10:39.22 | Tekkub | okey... so I guess the consensus is add "notanks" mode, on by default, show ToT and HP% of ToT for all mobs... |
| 10:39.31 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 10:39.37 | Tekkub | if tankmod on, show only HP% of tank and ToT only if not a tank |
| 10:39.51 | [Ammo] | or show only on first tank |
| 10:40.03 | Tekkub | hrm.... |
| 10:40.07 | Tekkub | or maybe... |
| 10:40.20 | Tekkub | instead of colors, at the end.... |
| 10:40.33 | Tekkub | [### ] MobHP% TankHP% < |
| 10:40.39 | Tekkub | < == targetted |
| 10:40.56 | Tekkub | that actually sounds like the ideal solution |
| 10:40.59 | [Ammo] | I'd still like names, maybe option |
| 10:41.01 | [Ammo] | +al |
| 10:41.44 | Tekkub | you know, it sounds dumb, but that's so simple/stupid why not make a lil seperate mod for it |
| 10:41.47 | Tekkub | "TankWatch" |
| 10:41.59 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 10:42.05 | Tekkub | just watches the ToT's of the tanks and pop up who is currently targetted |
| 10:42.38 | [Ammo] | let me explain better |
| 10:42.39 | Tekkub | I mean, you don't want the info attached to a perticular unitframe in PRT, why do it there at all then? |
| 10:42.51 | [Ammo] | I want it added to the target |
| 10:43.02 | [Ammo] | so it should be at a particular unitframe in prt |
| 10:43.14 | Tekkub | you kept saying "the first" |
| 10:43.17 | Tekkub | :P |
| 10:43.22 | [Ammo] | the first unique mob it finds |
| 10:43.26 | [Ammo] | if you understand |
| 10:43.34 | Tekkub | but in tank mod it's not that way |
| 10:43.43 | [Ammo] | so if tanksmode is enabled, it should show the ToT on the first only |
| 10:43.45 | Tekkub | the thrid tank might be tho one tanking it |
| 10:43.57 | [Ammo] | that doesn't matter if it shows the name |
| 10:44.06 | Tekkub | so I'd attach the name to the third, even if the first is also targetting it |
| 10:44.14 | [Ammo] | that's fine by me as well |
| 10:44.18 | [Ammo] | just as long as it shows somewhere |
| 10:44.30 | Tekkub | okey, I'll add an option to toggle names of tanks as ToT |
| 10:44.32 | [Ammo] | and if tanksmode is off, it'll just show once, since there is only 1 |
| 10:44.37 | Tekkub | or just "<" |
| 10:44.44 | [Ammo] | that sounds perfect |
| 10:44.56 | [Ammo] | mobhp tankhp tankname or mobhp tankhp < |
| 10:45.09 | Tekkub | so it'd either be "45% 38% <" or "45% 38% Tankbob" |
| 10:45.13 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 10:45.19 | [Ammo] | perfec |
| 10:45.21 | [Ammo] | +T |
| 10:45.25 | Tekkub | okey... bleh... |
| 10:45.33 | Tekkub | not gonna happen tonight tho :) |
| 10:45.35 | [Ammo] | make sure I can click the name though :p |
| 10:45.38 | [Ammo] | if it's there :) |
| 10:45.41 | [Ammo] | that's fine |
| 10:45.48 | Tekkub | I got no clue on the clicking shit |
| 10:46.00 | Tekkub | I copied clad's stuff but I think something got missedh |
| 10:46.06 | [Ammo] | well it works so far |
| 10:46.14 | [Ammo] | I can click a target and it works |
| 10:46.22 | Tekkub | I havn't been in a raid in a month, and I won't in the near future, so no testing for me |
| 10:46.33 | Tekkub | I mean WatchDog clicks |
| 10:46.36 | [Ammo] | oh ok |
| 10:46.40 | [Ammo] | I don't use watchdog |
| 10:46.55 | Tekkub | I know, but a lot of people do |
| 10:47.18 | Tekkub | frankly clad needs to just do it for me, he knows how all that works, I don't |
| 10:47.20 | [Ammo] | just make a simple clickthing first, and let clad fiddle with it to make it watchdog compatible |
| 10:47.27 | Tekkub | and I can't really test it easily |
| 11:04.28 | Elkano | Tekkub, wrt your post on EnchantMe I'm glad you never read my code ^^' |
| 11:04.44 | Tekkub | :P |
| 11:05.54 | Elkano | but ItemDB is planed for a rewrite wit OO in mind :) |
| 11:08.58 | haste | I _HATE_ the new blizz background downloader |
| 11:09.12 | haste | 1. I can't disable it 2. It makes my mouse show in WoW |
| 11:09.30 | *** join/#wowace banditron|afk (n=bandito@cpe-67-9-143-58.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 11:09.39 | Tekkub | can't disable it? |
| 11:10.31 | haste | No, I disable it in the option thingy |
| 11:10.35 | haste | but it keeps coming back |
| 11:10.42 | haste | I just renamed the file now |
| 11:11.16 | Tekkub | funny I see no background downloader on my system... |
| 11:11.20 | Tekkub | process name? |
| 11:11.25 | [MoonWolf] | i never see it either |
| 11:11.29 | haste | wait a sec |
| 11:11.37 | [MoonWolf] | it usually shows up in the tray , but it has not been around a loong time. |
| 11:11.39 | haste | BackgroundDownloader.exe |
| 11:12.05 | Tekkub | nope |
| 11:12.11 | Tekkub | must just be you, you suck |
| 11:12.38 | haste | :( |
| 11:13.06 | Tekkub | I go try to couchnap now, buhbye |
| 11:13.47 | Codayus | Okay, can someone look at this excert from my Visor saved variables file and tell me why it's breaking? |
| 11:13.50 | Codayus | http://ace.pastebin.com/695880 |
| 11:13.58 | Codayus | Those are the *only* references to Lucen Unit Frames in the file. |
| 11:14.13 | Codayus | If Lucen Unit Frames is enabled, visor breaks. if disabled, visor works. :-( |
| 11:15.09 | [MoonWolf] | tried wiping the whole file ? |
| 11:15.52 | Codayus | Yeah... |
| 11:17.22 | Codayus | But if I add them back in, stuff breaks. |
| 11:18.14 | [MoonWolf] | very weird. |
| 11:18.21 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 11:18.33 | Codayus | Maybe those aren't the right frames to move. |
| 11:18.55 | Codayus | Bleh |
| 11:19.21 | [MoonWolf] | even then. |
| 11:19.26 | [MoonWolf] | what errors ? |
| 11:19.55 | Codayus | What happens is that ant attempt to move the minimap fails. |
| 11:20.18 | Codayus | In fact, doing a lot of stuff with visor - including trying to move completely unrelated frames - fails. |
| 11:20.25 | Codayus | No error message. |
| 11:20.57 | [MoonWolf] | i think this is more of an internal visor problem then anything lucen unit frames. |
| 11:21.04 | Codayus | I enter the game, and stuff is in the default locations, not where I've moved it with visor, it won't move, and I can't move anything else... |
| 11:21.20 | Codayus | Yeah...but it's only happening with LUF. :-) |
| 11:21.34 | [MoonWolf] | very weird. |
| 11:21.39 | [MoonWolf] | tried older versions of visor ? |
| 11:21.45 | Codayus | Uh...no. |
| 11:22.01 | [MoonWolf] | it cant hurt. |
| 11:22.07 | [MoonWolf] | (i hope) |
| 11:23.37 | Codayus | :-) |
| 11:25.51 | Qaarh|Work | I didn't 't have the patience to set something up with Visor.. I'd love to though :/ It seems like a nice way of arranging your interface, at least in comparison to DAB... |
| 11:26.20 | Codayus | Qaarh|Work: I'm using tinypad to write scripts to set up visor |
| 11:26.27 | Codayus | Seems to be working well, and fairly easily |
| 11:26.48 | Qaarh|Work | Codayus, I tried LuaSlinger, but I couldn't even cut & paste from outside of the game without it breaking... |
| 11:26.58 | Codayus | tinypad works pretty well |
| 11:27.28 | Qaarh|Work | maybe I'll try that.. though, setting my UI up again.. ugh.. I have so much page flipping and ghost bars and keymappings.. |
| 11:27.29 | Codayus | Hmm, new idea. LUF has somehow got some bad saved variables, and ITS breaking my game, not Visor... |
| 11:27.38 | Codayus | :-) |
| 11:28.15 | CIA-13 | 03moonwolf * r1381 10Mendeleev/ (. Mendeleev.lua Mendeleev.toc): Mendeleev: PT has been embedded, some weird problem i can't figure out with the tradeskills remains. I'll ask tekkub to explain it to me when he wakes up again. |
| 11:28.28 | haste | Codayus: reset the saved vars and try again :p + |
| 11:28.38 | Codayus | haste: trying that... |
| 11:28.47 | haste | remember to backup :D |
| 11:29.24 | Elkano | moonwolf, what are these problems? |
| 11:30.18 | Codayus | Aaaand no. |
| 11:30.39 | [MoonWolf] | the trade vars are acting weird. its returning tables filled with tables that are filled with nils, maybe i am parsing something the wrong way.... |
| 11:31.14 | [MoonWolf] | look at it yourself if you want. |
| 11:32.17 | Codayus | Ooops, maybe I failed to correctly clear the sv file... |
| 11:33.20 | Codayus | Okay, so removing the references to LUF from the visor SVs makes it work. |
| 11:34.35 | Elkano | ok, moonwolf, I think tekkub will be a better help having written that stuff |
| 11:37.33 | [MoonWolf] | thought so. |
| 11:39.28 | haste | ugh, it's okey that people ask me UI question (even though some are pretty retarded) |
| 11:39.39 | [MoonWolf] | i feel a but coming here. |
| 11:39.40 | haste | but why does EVERYONE have to lay out a REASON for why they are asking? |
| 11:39.56 | [MoonWolf] | so you understand why they are asking stupid questions. |
| 11:40.29 | Codayus | Arrrrg |
| 11:40.47 | Codayus | Fine, I din't want to use those unit frames anyhow. *cry* |
| 11:40.55 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 11:40.57 | Elkano | well, it's extra info; if you don't need it, simply discard it ;) |
| 11:41.15 | haste | [MoonWolf]: You know me too well :p |
| 11:41.55 | [MoonWolf] | i usually explain what i did and where i have been looking for information when i ask a serious question. |
| 11:45.20 | CIA-13 | 03icetrain * r1382 10oRA_MainTankFrames/ (6 files): Initial import |
| 11:54.56 | CIA-13 | 03moonwolf * r1383 10Mendeleev/ (. Mendeleev.toc): |
| 11:54.56 | CIA-13 | Mendeleev: Fixed previous problem, should have remembered to include compostlib. |
| 11:54.57 | CIA-13 | ~whaleslap [moonwolf] |
| 11:55.04 | purl | ACTION beats [moonwolf] upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 11:56.02 | [MoonWolf] | :( i only made sergeant |
| 11:56.30 | [MoonWolf] | i wanted master sergeant |
| 11:57.16 | CIA-13 | 03icetrain * r1384 10oRA_MainTankFrames/oRA_MainTankFrames.lua: Removed some unused code |
| 12:03.42 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 12:04.07 | Codayus | haste: For otravi_unitframes, does the player frame have the ability to show buffs? |
| 12:06.36 | CIA-13 | 03icetrain * r1385 10oRA_MainTankFrames/oRA_MainTankFrames.lua: oRA_MainTankFrames: Fixed nil error in CTRASPY_MAINTANKS_UPDATED() |
| 12:07.08 | haste | Codayus: nope |
| 12:07.23 | Codayus | :-( |
| 12:28.46 | Wobin_ | Why did I read that as "CRISPY_MAINTANKS"? |
| 12:29.12 | Thiana | Too much time in MC ;) |
| 12:29.19 | Wobin_ | not enough FR =P |
| 12:35.27 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 12:35.58 | haste | why did I just read that as "CRI SPY"... maybe a little sign that I need a power nap |
| 12:37.38 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 12:37.45 | Codayus | Now my player frame is vanishing randomly. |
| 12:37.48 | Codayus | Or...not quite randomly |
| 12:37.55 | Codayus | Whenever I don't have a target... |
| 12:39.16 | haste | anchored your playerframe to the targetframe now :p ? |
| 12:39.34 | Codayus | I'm not sure... |
| 12:40.16 | Codayus | .... |
| 12:40.17 | Codayus | OH! |
| 12:40.19 | Codayus | Hey! |
| 12:40.31 | Codayus | There's a difference between p and pr in visor parameters! |
| 12:40.38 | Wobin_ | yep |
| 12:40.43 | Codayus | *cry* |
| 12:40.49 | Wobin_ | ~comfort Codayus |
| 12:40.57 | purl | There, there, Codayus. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 12:42.31 | Wobin_ | huh |
| 12:42.46 | Wobin_ | Why is the SVN asking for authentication on update? |
| 12:44.32 | haste | Wobin_: enter non? |
| 12:44.43 | Wobin_ | Nah, it was a misentered path |
| 12:44.50 | Wobin_ | from an old version of the tree |
| 12:44.55 | haste | :D |
| 12:45.00 | Industrial | \m/ >_< \m/ |
| 12:45.12 | Industrial | good song vor a warlock pvp video :p |
| 12:45.15 | Industrial | for* |
| 12:45.19 | Elkano | <o> manowar :) |
| 12:45.24 | Industrial | :D |
| 12:45.30 | Industrial | power metal ftw |
| 12:46.04 | haste | np: To/Die/For - Little Deaths [4:12] |
| 12:46.32 | Industrial | what plugin is that? |
| 12:46.36 | Industrial | :D |
| 12:46.53 | Codayus | Yay! Pet bar is now hiding appropriatly and stuff... |
| 12:46.59 | Industrial | meh this irssi is on another box anyway |
| 12:47.04 | Industrial | Codayus: yay :D |
| 12:53.10 | CIA-13 | 03icetrain * r1386 10oRA_MainTankFrames/ (oRA_MainTankFrames.lua oRA_MainTankFramesLocals.lua): |
| 12:53.10 | CIA-13 | oRA_MainTankFrames: |
| 12:53.10 | CIA-13 | Fixed disappearing tank name when switching styles |
| 12:53.10 | CIA-13 | Added name colors |
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| 12:54.28 | Industrial | o.. right.. i was at work :P |
| 12:57.09 | Tain | What the hell is wrong with these companies, now it's not enough to have a resume, you have to go online for every goddamn place I want to apply to and fill out a profile on their own system. |
| 12:57.22 | Tain | And put in all the same information over and over and over again. |
| 12:58.04 | Industrial | form fill extension? :P |
| 12:58.14 | Tain | They're all different. |
| 12:58.32 | Tain | Some have dropdown menus, some have lookup fields that *have* to be in whatever arbitrary format they want. |
| 12:58.34 | Industrial | My princess why must I assist at your death |
| 12:58.40 | Industrial | I can't endure this tragic pain |
| 12:58.53 | Industrial | now I close your eyes while thunder strikes the sky |
| 12:58.58 | Tain | Screw that princess, she doesn't deserve it. |
| 12:59.00 | Industrial | I cry to see the innocent die |
| 12:59.09 | Industrial | Brothers I'm ready, the ride can begin |
| 12:59.17 | Industrial | for you i must win |
| 12:59.20 | Industrial | NANANNANANANANANANANNA |
| 12:59.26 | Industrial | \m/ >_< \m/ |
| 12:59.30 | Tain | Pastebin your lyrics |
| 12:59.48 | Industrial | fine:p |
| 12:59.53 | Industrial | http://darklyrics.com/lyrics/rhapsody/legendarytales.html#5 |
| 12:59.55 | Industrial | xD |
| 13:06.26 | haste | Industrial: "plugin" = xmms.pl :p |
| 13:06.39 | Industrial | i see |
| 13:07.11 | haste | I think it's the default style :p |
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| 13:28.21 | snurre | oh btw, is it safe to update PerfectRaid from SVN now_ |
| 13:33.29 | Lucen | i think the trunk version is safe |
| 13:35.17 | phyber | trunk is the beta 0.3 from WoWI, I believe. |
| 13:37.32 | haste | trunk = safe |
| 13:37.37 | haste | unstable = well, unstable :p |
| 13:37.40 | snurre | goodie |
| 13:41.58 | phyber | http://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_050206_212706.jpg |
| 13:42.07 | phyber | my UI after I started using FuBar yesterday :) |
| 13:47.56 | Tain | So many buttons. |
| 13:51.17 | haste | Increase: 59KB/s :O |
| 13:51.34 | haste | I have like.... 6KB/s in combat :< |
| 13:51.46 | phyber | yeah, it always increases more when I'm in combat. not sure what mod is doing it. |
| 13:51.58 | phyber | it was higher than that when I was testing oUF and LUF |
| 13:52.21 | haste | well, both those uses AUF, which doesn't have the best ToT checking |
| 13:52.31 | haste | it was worse before, trust me |
| 13:52.46 | haste | when AUF didn't throttle it's ToT and updated it every .05 sec :D |
| 13:52.48 | phyber | yeah. I figured it was the TOT thing in AUF, since when I targetted myself it would go nuts :) |
| 13:53.03 | haste | the SVN version of AUF works just fine |
| 13:53.06 | haste | or "fine" |
| 13:53.44 | Lucen | hehe |
| 13:54.06 | phyber | I was using the SVN version :/ |
| 13:54.19 | Lucen | it's at .5 sec on tot now |
| 13:54.30 | Lucen | should be much less than it was before |
| 13:54.38 | phyber | going to disable a few things later to see if I can find what causes that much of an increase. |
| 13:54.45 | haste | Lucen: I went from 179KB/s to 6KB/s so :p |
| 13:54.49 | Lucen | rofl |
| 13:55.03 | haste | which is the reason I started hooking it :p |
| 13:55.03 | Lucen | i usually sit around 25 increase, during combat and in a raid |
| 13:55.31 | Lucen | i'm at a loss as to what Elite_Gamer04's problems are :( |
| 13:55.40 | haste | *pokes* |
| 13:55.50 | Lucen | party frame doesn't show, player buffs don't show...just don't get it |
| 13:55.51 | phyber | you guys averaging the increase out or not? AGCI (screenshot) shows literally what happened in the last second. |
| 13:56.22 | Lucen | i'm just watching performanceFu |
| 13:56.31 | Lucen | so that's over the last second, i think |
| 13:58.06 | haste | I also used PerformanceFU |
| 13:58.11 | phyber | ah, PerformanceFu is over 10 seconds. |
| 13:58.47 | Lucen | it is? |
| 13:58.53 | phyber | it looks like it. |
| 13:59.04 | phyber | self.timeSinceLastUpdate = self.timeSinceLastUpdate + difference |
| 13:59.05 | phyber | if self.timeSinceLastUpdate >= 10 then |
| 13:59.06 | Lucen | hmmm..have to look at it closer i guess |
| 13:59.16 | phyber | and then it blanks the previous readings |
| 13:59.23 | phyber | and off it goes again |
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| 14:00.03 | Industrial | < phyber> http://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_050206_212706.jpg |
| 14:00.20 | Industrial | I really really dislike the unit frames in the topleft |
| 14:00.30 | phyber | that is MiniGroup2 |
| 14:00.31 | Lucen | think you're right phyber |
| 14:00.35 | Industrial | makes your eyes go from topleft to center to topright (buffs) to center to topleft |
| 14:00.46 | [Ammo] | I have my playerframe right under my character |
| 14:00.49 | Industrial | no i dont mean the look, i mean the location |
| 14:00.51 | [Ammo] | and target too |
| 14:00.52 | Industrial | me too |
| 14:01.03 | [Ammo] | the rest of the party is somewhere topleft |
| 14:01.03 | Lucen | hehe..same here |
| 14:01.05 | [Ammo] | since I don't care for them |
| 14:01.25 | phyber | I could put the buffs right under my player frame if I wanted to. but i didn't bother since I had them on the right with the timers. |
| 14:01.43 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/ui%20setups/ |
| 14:02.18 | haste | I don't think authors understand that they can create "shorthands" without registering chat cmds into oRA :p |
| 14:02.30 | haste | by just using the default Ace method |
| 14:02.49 | phyber | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/ui%20setups/WoWScrnShot_020306_212637.jpg |
| 14:03.03 | phyber | sewer beast! haven't seen that on my server in ages :/ |
| 14:03.18 | phyber | used to be there a lot. |
| 14:03.20 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 14:03.29 | Industrial | thats was when i was using mg2 |
| 14:03.56 | [Ammo] | I kinda like MG2 |
| 14:04.01 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/ui%20setups/WoWScrnShot_041706_174352.jpg |
| 14:04.04 | Industrial | tinkered with DUF here |
| 14:04.12 | Industrial | thats my 'perfect' unit frame |
| 14:04.35 | Industrial | you can stackem (mash em, put em in a stwe (lotr, cough)) |
| 14:04.42 | Industrial | s/stwe/stew/ |
| 14:04.54 | Tain | That frame puts the ug in ugly. |
| 14:05.14 | Industrial | ok, imagine it with a perl look |
| 14:05.29 | Tain | Actually I just dislike the yellow background. I like the info and whatnot. |
| 14:05.34 | phyber | the one under the char looks ok, the one at the top is nasty. |
| 14:05.50 | Industrial | thats the default one |
| 14:05.53 | Industrial | the char one is what i mean |
| 14:06.01 | phyber | the one under the char is great actually. would go well with PerfectRaid :) |
| 14:06.18 | Tain | Oh see the top one is so bad it draws you in, like a great black-hole of sucktitude. |
| 14:06.24 | Industrial | heh |
| 14:06.24 | Qaarh|Work | DUF = bloated... |
| 14:06.33 | Industrial | it was to fiddle with design |
| 14:06.38 | Qaarh|Work | yah |
| 14:06.41 | Industrial | needed to show people how id like my unit frames mod |
| 14:06.46 | Industrial | :p |
| 14:06.55 | Qaarh|Work | I need to code myself a bar and unit frame addon :D |
| 14:06.59 | Industrial | Tain: yeah that guy.. made it.. lozareth |
| 14:07.09 | Industrial | Qaarh|Work: its alot of work :| |
| 14:07.20 | Qaarh|Work | Industrial, I know.. I know |
| 14:07.22 | Industrial | but im goin to anyway |
| 14:07.23 | Industrial | :D |
| 14:07.26 | Tain | And you're still using a round minimap? How quaint. |
| 14:07.28 | Qaarh|Work | :D |
| 14:07.39 | Industrial | Tain: yeah wanting to get squeenix into idMinimap |
| 14:08.01 | Qaarh|Work | I have a round minimap still.. |
| 14:08.26 | Tain | You can run squeenix, well it's just like two script commands with the textures. |
| 14:08.29 | Qaarh|Work | but.. does having a square map have any impact on your memory? I don't need more plugins that use memory... |
| 14:08.39 | Tain | No Qaarh, there's no difference. |
| 14:08.41 | [Ammo] | nope |
| 14:08.46 | [Ammo] | it just sets diff textures |
| 14:08.47 | Tain | The map itself is actually square. |
| 14:08.51 | [Ammo] | it's great :) |
| 14:09.07 | Tain | When you use the normal round map it's still a full square map, the textures just hide the corners. |
| 14:09.16 | Qaarh|Work | ohhh okay :) |
| 14:09.20 | Qaarh|Work | well, I might as well get it then |
| 14:09.23 | Tain | But they're still actually there. |
| 14:09.54 | Industrial | Tain: in time, in time :P |
| 14:09.55 | Tain | Personally I don't like the square maps, I think they're ugly. But the ones with a squared corner, or squared top/bottom are nice to my eye. |
| 14:10.01 | Industrial | too much to do, too little time |
| 14:10.07 | Industrial | need to get idMinimap up on the svn |
| 14:10.10 | Industrial | i did idChat' |
| 14:10.11 | Industrial | :p |
| 14:10.24 | Industrial | (and my last version with /tt target tell support) |
| 14:10.44 | Tain | I don't even have a remotely current screenshot of my UI. |
| 14:11.32 | Qaarh|Work | hrm.. how does it work with square maps and the minimap buttons? |
| 14:11.45 | Qaarh|Work | (curse those buttons!) |
| 14:11.50 | [Ammo] | they get positioned wrong |
| 14:11.59 | [Ammo] | unless they implement a radius option |
| 14:12.02 | Industrial | haste: :D? |
| 14:12.03 | [Ammo] | then you can position them |
| 14:12.06 | haste | << bored |
| 14:12.07 | Tain | You may have to move some buttons yourself. Personally I don't use any minimap buttons so I'm lucky that way. |
| 14:12.08 | [Ammo] | (or use visor) |
| 14:12.13 | Tain | Otherwise I use Visor to move them manually. |
| 14:12.35 | haste | haha |
| 14:12.37 | Industrial | :D |
| 14:12.41 | phyber | I used visor to move mine and scale them down a little. |
| 14:12.50 | [Ammo] | haste: mirror bars in ocb :) |
| 14:12.52 | [Ammo] | gogogo |
| 14:12.52 | Industrial | Yea i dont use any either |
| 14:13.12 | Industrial | ogmliekexpbarplz!withbbcsauce! |
| 14:13.19 | Industrial | *afk* |
| 14:13.34 | Tain | The only minimap button I would just not want to live without was the one to change tracking on my Hunter. |
| 14:13.41 | haste | Industrial: No! I was going to ask you something that would help me torture a dutch person in the guild! |
| 14:13.51 | Tain | But I stopped playing him so it doesn't matter now. |
| 14:14.13 | Qaarh|Work | Tain, is there a way to get rid of the minimap buttons? |
| 14:14.23 | Tain | You can use Visor to hide them. |
| 14:14.31 | Tain | Which is what I do with any that don't have their own option to hide. |
| 14:14.49 | Qaarh|Work | right |
| 14:15.04 | Tain | Although if I do come across any addons in the future that have a minimap button and don't give you an option to disable it I'd email the author and demand one. |
| 14:18.28 | Qaarh|Work | hehe |
| 14:18.40 | haste | I have to get a "Close all tabs" hotkey for my firefox |
| 14:18.56 | Qaarh|Work | Haste: Alt+F4? :D |
| 14:18.58 | [Ammo] | alt-f4 |
| 14:18.58 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 14:19.07 | haste | now... that will change my desktop :p |
| 14:19.10 | Qaarh|Work | [Ammo], I win! :D |
| 14:19.13 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:19.15 | Qaarh|Work | haste, ... okay |
| 14:19.33 | haste | I can kill of one and one by chain smashing Ctrl |
| 14:19.33 | Qaarh|Work | got a windows keyboard? |
| 14:19.36 | haste | +w * |
| 14:19.48 | Industrial | haste: ask |
| 14:19.52 | Qaarh|Work | ctrl+f4 perhaps |
| 14:19.53 | haste | What makes my keyboard a Windows Keyobard? |
| 14:20.02 | Qaarh|Work | the little windows keys.. |
| 14:20.04 | haste | Ctrl+f4 is the same as ctrl+w |
| 14:20.06 | Industrial | there is no such thing as a windows keyboard |
| 14:20.06 | Qaarh|Work | between ctrl and alt |
| 14:20.10 | Industrial | it has SUPER keys |
| 14:20.12 | Qaarh|Work | lol |
| 14:20.16 | haste | Then I don't have a Windows Keyboard :p |
| 14:20.17 | Industrial | they have windows icons on them |
| 14:20.24 | Qaarh|Work | right okay |
| 14:20.25 | Qaarh|Work | hrm |
| 14:20.27 | Industrial | :D |
| 14:20.34 | Qaarh|Work | well then... you'll have to live with ctrl-w |
| 14:21.02 | Industrial | < haste> Industrial: No! I was going to ask you something that would help me torture a dutch person in the guild! |
| 14:21.05 | Industrial | wasshup? |
| 14:21.28 | haste | Industrial: Back in France again? in dutch please :D |
| 14:21.55 | [Ammo] | Weer terug in frankrijk? |
| 14:21.58 | [Ammo] | that's it |
| 14:22.19 | Industrial | like |
| 14:22.21 | Industrial | ya |
| 14:22.21 | Industrial | :D |
| 14:22.30 | Industrial | Frankrijk |
| 14:22.32 | Industrial | *cough* |
| 14:22.46 | [Ammo] | I refuse to spell frankrijk with a capital :p |
| 14:22.58 | Industrial | orly ammo? |
| 14:22.59 | Industrial | :D |
| 14:23.11 | [Ammo] | ya rly |
| 14:23.22 | Industrial | liek woa |
| 14:23.45 | haste | We have a dutch person in the guild, which has a French accent on his English :D |
| 14:23.57 | [Ammo] | cool |
| 14:23.58 | haste | so people assumed he was from France - the joke still goes on |
| 14:24.14 | [Ammo] | we have a finnish Idol contestant in the guild |
| 14:24.21 | [Ammo] | he's asked to sing all the time |
| 14:24.22 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 14:24.29 | [Ammo] | (and after a few vodka's he does) |
| 14:24.33 | haste | haha |
| 14:24.48 | haste | We have a couple who enjoy singing on VT also |
| 14:25.10 | phyber | Industrial: that button bars concept looks interesting. |
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| 14:34.57 | Industrial | phyber: still a concept, but :) |
| 14:35.04 | Industrial | started on the mainbar plugin yesterday |
| 14:41.17 | phyber | cool |
| 14:41.45 | phyber | maybe it will lessen the amount of buttons on my screen :) |
| 14:44.43 | phyber | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:44.44 | phyber | hah |
| 14:46.39 | Industrial | : |
| 14:46.40 | Industrial | :> |
| 14:46.50 | Industrial | yea that was really cute |
| 14:47.16 | Industrial | I was just beginning with watching and downloaing anime series |
| 14:47.29 | Industrial | and i asked some people |
| 14:47.32 | Industrial | and they gave me a list |
| 14:47.39 | Industrial | and then like 2 years aleter i found the list |
| 14:47.48 | Industrial | and it was all like yaoi and angels shit |
| 14:47.54 | Industrial | so i put it up there :D |
| 14:48.06 | phyber | hehe |
| 14:48.51 | phyber | have you seen SoulTaker? that's pretty cool, and a little strange. |
| 14:49.18 | Industrial | nay |
| 14:49.32 | Industrial | (i listed those seen too) |
| 14:49.32 | Industrial | :p |
| 14:49.51 | phyber | ah, thought the list was out of date ;) |
| 14:49.52 | phyber | 15:47:39 < Industrial> and then like 2 years aleter i found the list |
| 14:51.05 | Industrial | nah this was the updated list |
| 14:51.12 | Industrial | havent done much watching last few months.. |
| 14:51.23 | Industrial | macross is next i think |
| 14:51.37 | Industrial | (i loke robots, gundam wing 's my favorite) |
| 14:51.42 | Industrial | s/ok/ik/ |
| 14:52.05 | phyber | I've got Macross / Macross Plus on DVD. they seem to be the same thing, except one of them is it split into episodes, one of them is like a movie. |
| 14:52.26 | phyber | or it could be the second DVD was recapping the first and I didn't noticed and just turned it off. |
| 14:52.34 | Industrial | heh |
| 14:52.45 | phyber | but it was cool. :) |
| 14:53.02 | phyber | NGE is great too if you like big robot fighty things. |
| 14:53.04 | Industrial | didnt read into it |
| 14:53.21 | Industrial | but it seems like its about a chick (hot? :P) and a killer bunny robot |
| 14:53.48 | Industrial | so... fun? :D |
| 14:54.22 | phyber | hehe :) |
| 14:56.13 | Qaarh|Work | hmmm... who's the author of ArcHUD? |
| 14:58.58 | Industrial | got work n stuff |
| 14:59.00 | Industrial | tbh dunno |
| 14:59.27 | Industrial | its Uruloke |
| 14:59.34 | phyber | time to leave work. bbl :) |
| 14:59.55 | Industrial | same \o/ |
| 14:59.57 | Qaarh|Work | hmm, just browsed to toc to check.. "Author: Saleel (Based on Nurfed_Hud by Tivoli)" |
| 15:00.21 | haste | Industrial: Mai-HiME might be something for you then |
| 15:01.17 | Industrial | "Mai is a transfer student" |
| 15:01.19 | Industrial | oh boy... |
| 15:01.39 | Industrial | i am armed with animeNFO :p |
| 15:01.47 | Qaarh|Work | :D |
| 15:02.07 | Industrial | http://images.google.com/images?q=mai%20hime&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&percentage_served=*:100&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi |
| 15:02.11 | Industrial | approved |
| 15:02.48 | Industrial | oh.. thats just fan art... |
| 15:02.53 | Industrial | :3 |
| 15:03.05 | Qaarh|Work | quick question.. Grinding mobs or doing quests? What do you personally think is the best experience? |
| 15:03.05 | haste | :-P |
| 15:03.19 | haste | Qaarh|Work: depends: How well do you know each quest ? |
| 15:03.40 | Industrial | I dont know quests |
| 15:03.46 | Qaarh|Work | haste, I'm thinking over the global scope here, from lvl 1-60 |
| 15:03.58 | haste | so was I |
| 15:04.08 | Industrial | grinding is faster |
| 15:04.10 | Industrial | :p |
| 15:04.11 | haste | if you don't know the quests very well -> grinding > Quests |
| 15:04.26 | haste | if you do know quests well then -> Questing > grinding |
| 15:04.32 | Qaarh|Work | mmm |
| 15:04.32 | Eraphine|Lab | thottbot is your friend |
| 15:04.48 | haste | [Jesus] whispers: afk? |
| 15:04.54 | Qaarh|Work | I don't use Thott.. |
| 15:05.08 | Industrial | haste: kek |
| 15:05.19 | Qaarh|Work | haste, reply with "Yes, my son. I am currently away from Kreation. Please pray that I'll return to you." |
| 15:06.55 | haste | [Jesus] whispers: fckning RP whore |
| 15:06.56 | haste | haha |
| 15:07.20 | Industrial | "I' |
| 15:07.35 | haste | You do that aswell? |
| 15:07.38 | Qaarh|Work | haste, you replied with that?! |
| 15:08.00 | Industrial | "I'm sorry, god isnt here right now. Leave a message after the beep -" |
| 15:08.00 | haste | Qaarh|Work: I'm slightly bored, so yes |
| 15:08.08 | Qaarh|Work | :D |
| 15:08.45 | Qaarh|Work | Hi, welcome to the Alzheimers research.. uhm.. laboromy.. ehm.. lobotomy.. ehm.. the place where you study.. hmm... gosh, what was it again? Anyway.. |
| 15:08.58 | Qaarh|Work | (Monty Python ftw) |
| 15:10.59 | Qaarh|Work | Industrial, from a bad experience in the Badlands? No, wait.. Wrong world |
| 15:11.15 | Cairenn | later all, doubt I'll be back on until late tonight |
| 15:11.29 | Industrial | http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/laisburning/2013778_7b53f8611b.jpg |
| 15:11.31 | Industrial | and that one |
| 15:13.12 | Qaarh|Work | Industrial, hah |
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| 15:30.37 | haste | If the Web interface at svn.wowace.com was a person - I would have stabbed it. |
| 15:31.15 | Tain | Nothing good ever came of using the web. |
| 15:34.53 | ag` | well the SVN should just go faster imo :( |
| 15:35.24 | ag` | it's pretty damn slow no matter if you use the web interface or tortoiseSVN |
| 15:35.40 | ag` | but that might be the protocol, I don't have much experience with SVN |
| 15:37.23 | Tain | Really? I've alwyas had svn go very fast. |
| 15:37.42 | Tain | The only time svn has been slow for me is when there were ISP issues at the host. |
| 15:42.45 | snurre | svn peaks at about 2.5 kb/s here :p |
| 15:45.06 | ag` | yeah |
| 15:49.48 | Tain | Well that average isn't really saying anything though, you're never goign to get high bandwidth transfer rates because you're dealing with dozens (hundreds, whatever) of tiny files. |
| 15:49.52 | Wobin_ | SVN has always been deadly slow |
| 15:49.56 | Wobin_ | for me |
| 15:51.17 | Tain | Oh this new flavor of the week of externalizing links in svn does it. |
| 15:52.00 | Tain | Or at least is now causing me to slow to a crawl. |
| 15:52.19 | Tain | But only on those addons that do it. |
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| 15:57.02 | haste | svn update is fast as hell |
| 15:57.09 | haste | but the web interface is slow as hell |
| 15:57.37 | Tain | So don't use the web. :) |
| 15:57.46 | Neronix | afternoon |
| 15:59.16 | netcurse | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-dungeons&t=495812&p=1&tmp=1#post495812 funny one |
| 16:01.17 | haste | http://www.fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/oRA_Ready.png << different enough? |
| 16:02.43 | haste | WUPS |
| 16:02.51 | haste | little typo on the one to the left :----D |
| 16:03.18 | haste | cba to update the image anyway |
| 16:03.43 | ag` | nice look :p |
| 16:04.08 | snurre | except for the font |
| 16:05.00 | phyber | <3 the price of bags on my server right now. |
| 16:05.10 | phyber | ~19-20G for a 16 slot bag :) |
| 16:05.43 | haste | phyber: that font is my defualt WoW font so it will change from client to client :p |
| 16:06.23 | phyber | ok. |
| 16:07.07 | Wobin_ | phyber: We have those prices... |
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| 16:07.34 | Wobin_ | phyber: In fact we have a Pixi who makes and sells them "All filled with Pixi food and drink" |
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| 16:10.24 | phyber | oh :o |
| 16:13.55 | phyber | haste: which font is that? |
| 16:14.28 | haste | phyber: Bitstream Vera |
| 16:15.01 | phyber | nice. one of the Bitstream Veras that's included in windows? |
| 16:15.09 | haste | nope |
| 16:15.15 | haste | it's included in Gnome however :----D |
| 16:15.22 | phyber | ah. |
| 16:15.30 | haste | http://www.gnome.org/fonts/ |
| 16:16.21 | phyber | just the regular vera.ttf? |
| 16:16.32 | haste | nope, verase or something |
| 16:16.35 | haste | *checks* |
| 16:16.49 | phyber | yeah, there is a VeraSe.ttf |
| 16:16.50 | haste | yeh, VeraSe.ttf |
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| 16:38.42 | haste | haha, I have a megahal bot in a alliance guilds channel |
| 16:38.54 | haste | since the guild is norwegians only - it basicly just speaks norwegian |
| 16:39.28 | haste | and some guy who got ganked by one of the members joins the channel and begins to flame |
| 16:39.42 | haste | the bot has a 2% chance to reply on a random sentence - at basicly flames back at the person :p |
| 16:40.03 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 16:40.21 | [MoonWolf] | if it had not been norwegian i would ask for logs. |
| 16:40.36 | haste | hehe |
| 16:40.44 | haste | it knows some enligsh also, but no much |
| 16:43.35 | Wobin_ | Ratbert_CP: You about? |
| 16:58.58 | haste | hihi, I managed to teach it the doom song :D |
| 16:59.46 | [MoonWolf] | morning ker |
| 17:02.11 | kergoth | hey |
| 17:02.20 | kergoth | ~emulate gir |
| 17:02.21 | purl | you SHALL not pass! .. he went that way. |
| 17:02.40 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 17:02.53 | [MoonWolf] | the world needs more invader zim. |
| 17:02.58 | [MoonWolf] | ~emulate zim |
| 17:02.59 | purl | It's like you said! They try to end the hunger for sweetness.. in their.. RUMBLING.. UNDEAD.. _bellies_! |
| 17:03.27 | kergoth | ~emulate dib |
| 17:03.28 | purl | Oh you're just *begging* to face the MOOSE. |
| 17:03.31 | kergoth | :D |
| 17:03.50 | [MoonWolf] | ooh, i did not know purl had dib entries. |
| 17:03.57 | kergoth | not many, more would be good |
| 17:04.07 | kergoth | ~emulate dib |
| 17:04.09 | purl | I'm delicious! No one should be this delicious! |
| 17:04.14 | kergoth | hahaha, i love tha tone |
| 17:04.24 | [MoonWolf] | must download some episodes |
| 17:04.47 | kergoth | i have one of the dvds, need to buy the rest of it. the commentary from the people working on it is pretty cool |
| 17:04.54 | kergoth | get the impression they had a lot of fun working on it |
| 17:05.09 | [MoonWolf] | i hsbr no doubt they did. |
| 17:05.16 | kergoth | wish it was still going :( |
| 17:05.21 | [MoonWolf] | you cant make something that funny and not have fun. |
| 17:05.44 | kergoth | they mustve had a lot of creative freedom |
| 17:05.53 | kergoth | "i know.. lets make that kid turn into .. bologna!" |
| 17:06.19 | [MoonWolf] | I suspect iilegal substances. |
| 17:06.45 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:07.20 | [MoonWolf] | of the hard type |
| 17:07.48 | kergoth | haste: we must make your casting bar into an independent object, with spiffy methods to manipulate behavior, then make it embeddable, so we can use it for things like class specific spell/ability timers |
| 17:07.53 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:08.05 | [MoonWolf] | and make it time aimed shot |
| 17:08.18 | kergoth | thatd be the plan. the current class timer addons are butt ugly |
| 17:08.26 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:08.31 | kergoth | foo |
| 17:08.33 | [MoonWolf] | no aimed shot is a 3 sec cast |
| 17:08.37 | [MoonWolf] | but it has no casting bar |
| 17:08.39 | kergoth | ahh |
| 17:08.45 | kergoth | silly blizzard |
| 17:10.14 | haste | kergoth: already working on repeating of font strings and such |
| 17:10.29 | haste | I'm playing a lot with CreateFrame and friends |
| 17:11.12 | kergoth | could turn it into a class of sorts. local newbar = otravi_CastingBar() |
| 17:11.16 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:11.47 | [MoonWolf] | if silly was a thunderstorm, blizzard would be standing on to of a mountain in wet copper armor shouting all gods are bastards. |
| 17:12.10 | kergoth | great image |
| 17:14.05 | [MoonWolf] | pratchat is fod. |
| 17:14.09 | [MoonWolf] | ett* |
| 17:14.33 | kergoth | i need to read more pratchett. i've only ever read that book he did with gaiman |
| 17:15.09 | netcurse | lees jou privaat mededelingen moon :) |
| 17:16.23 | haste | kergoth: I'll have to investigate lua more - I still consider myself fairly new |
| 17:16.55 | haste | everything I do in lua is based on things I've tested aganist each other, and past experience from other languages |
| 17:16.59 | kergoth | i know very little about wow's apis, even now, but lua, that i know pretty well now |
| 17:17.10 | kergoth | mostly out of lots of time spent doing perverse things with it ;) |
| 17:17.50 | haste | hehe |
| 17:18.42 | kergoth | it was a bad sign the first time i used debug.getinfo in a normal, nondebug codepath |
| 17:21.10 | kergoth | :) |
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| 17:38.35 | kergoth | you should install the intepreter and such if you havent already. being able to develop and test outside of wow is invaluable to learning, imo |
| 17:38.53 | kergoth | faster turnaround on the code->test->code cycle |
| 17:39.48 | Ratbert_CP | Alright... ckknight: FuBar has double-thick panels... !?! |
| 17:39.50 | phyber | $ which lua && lua -v |
| 17:39.50 | phyber | /usr/local/bin/lua |
| 17:39.50 | phyber | Lua 5.0.2 Copyright (C) 1994-2004 Tecgraf, PUC-Rio |
| 17:39.51 | phyber | :) |
| 17:40.10 | phyber | I still suck with LUA though ;) |
| 17:43.43 | [MoonWolf] | lua is the loki of scripting languages. |
| 17:44.44 | kergoth | ~zenoflua |
| 17:44.49 | kergoth | aw |
| 17:51.25 | kergoth | ~zenoflua is <reply> [The zen of Lua is] Doing more with less. --Martin Hollis |
| 17:51.27 | purl | kergoth: okay |
| 17:51.32 | kergoth | ~zenoflua |
| 17:51.33 | purl | [The zen of Lua is] Doing more with less. --Martin Hollis |
| 17:53.01 | haste | yeah, I have the interpreter |
| 17:53.27 | kergoth | as an exercise to learn more about the internals, and to optimize, check out luac |
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| 17:53.41 | kergoth | luac -l -p foo.lua prints a disassembly.. the lua VM instructions for the code |
| 17:55.33 | haste | *gasps* I have to abuse that one often now :D |
| 17:55.40 | Neronix | my neurons cry at the mere thought of doing that |
| 17:55.43 | kergoth | better yet, check out chunkspy |
| 17:55.46 | kergoth | fucking awesome |
| 17:55.47 | Neronix | I'm such a noob >.< |
| 17:55.55 | kergoth | it does disassembly and can display it inline with your lua code |
| 17:56.04 | kergoth | lua code line, its vm instructions, etc, all the way down |
| 17:57.00 | kergoth | luaforge :) |
| 17:57.08 | kergoth | luaforge.net, its like SF for lua projects |
| 17:57.10 | haste | first hit on google :D |
| 17:57.20 | kergoth | no svn there yet though, just cvs :( |
| 17:57.29 | Qaarh|Work | hmm, is there a program that can like.. intercept the lua code being run in WoW? |
| 17:57.34 | Qaarh|Work | kergoth, get TortoiseCVS ;) |
| 17:57.37 | kergoth | intercept? |
| 17:57.48 | kergoth | heh, i dont use windows |
| 17:57.52 | Qaarh|Work | kergoth, disassemble while it is run, see what instructions are called |
| 17:57.53 | kergoth | if i want to use cvs, i'll run cvs |
| 17:58.06 | kergoth | nope, though you can use string.dump to dump a function to a string, iirc |
| 17:58.07 | Qaarh|Work | cvs checkout... |
| 17:58.13 | Qaarh|Work | right |
| 17:58.21 | [MoonWolf] | why would you use cvs if you have svn |
| 17:58.24 | [MoonWolf] | in a new system anyway |
| 17:58.38 | Qaarh|Work | svn is new, cvs is old and like.. very stable |
| 17:58.46 | kergoth | cvs is horrid though. no atomic commits/no changesets, no merge tracking, no renames/moves, shitty merging, etc |
| 17:58.59 | kergoth | you really dont want to get me started on cvs |
| 17:59.02 | Qaarh|Work | anyhow, would be neat to have a 3rd party debugger running beside WoW.. though that would prolly be considered hacking |
| 17:59.54 | Qaarh|Work | kergoth, running Linux? When I still did, I found Cervisia being nice enough |
| 18:00.21 | kergoth | cervisia is indeed nice if you're into guis |
| 18:00.23 | kergoth | i'm a console junkie |
| 18:00.29 | Qaarh|Work | heading home from work, I will be back in like... 15 |
| 18:00.33 | kergoth | give me a shell and vim and i'm a happy camper |
| 18:00.44 | Qaarh|Work | hehe |
| 18:00.52 | Neronix | Question! |
| 18:00.58 | kergoth | Answer! |
| 18:01.05 | haste | Solution! |
| 18:01.43 | [MoonWolf] | UGLY FIX |
| 18:01.49 | Neronix | see self.RegisterEvent("SOME_EVENT", "A_Handler"), that would call self.A_Handler() whenever SOME_EVENT fires, right? |
| 18:02.30 | kergoth | http://lua-users.org/wiki/LazySort is really neat. |
| 18:02.43 | Neronix | how do I make it pass a certain argument to A_Handler? |
| 18:02.44 | kergoth | views quicksort as a binary tree |
| 18:02.57 | kergoth | and then uses that binary tree to lazily sort only whats needed |
| 18:03.24 | haste | Neronix: what arguments? |
| 18:03.40 | Neronix | brb, I'll put what I'm trying to achieve on the pastebin |
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| 18:07.36 | Neronix | nvm, it doesn't matter |
| 18:07.57 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 18:08.44 | kergoth | i wonder if itd be useful to be able to shadow superclass members with nil... i.e. superclass.t = "foo" class.t = nil .. and then have subsequent lookups of class.t result in nil |
| 18:08.55 | kergoth | rather than falling through to superclass's member |
| 18:10.19 | kergoth | course then you'd need an explicit way to make it fall through again, in case one wants that.. |
| 18:11.54 | Industrial | kergoth: you are talking sadfsfdaasfasfdgareg to me ;P |
| 18:12.08 | Industrial | well at least, thats what i understand of it |
| 18:12.14 | Industrial | ^___^ |
| 18:12.34 | kergoth | if a inherits b, and b defines a member 't' to 'foo', and you print(a.t), it shows foo, right? |
| 18:12.41 | kergoth | well, if you then set a.t = "bar" and print it, it prints bar |
| 18:12.46 | kergoth | if you then set a.t = nil, it shows foo again |
| 18:12.52 | kergoth | nil causes it to hit __index and fall through again |
| 18:13.03 | kergoth | so theres no way to force it to look up as _nil_ |
| 18:13.08 | [MoonWolf] | but what if i really want it to be nil |
| 18:13.09 | kergoth | i.e. for a settnig thats a flag |
| 18:13.11 | kergoth | right |
| 18:13.17 | kergoth | youd' have to use true/false or so |
| 18:14.17 | Wobin_ | Ratbert_CP: You about? |
| 18:14.50 | Ratbert_CP | Yeah |
| 18:15.07 | kergoth | the new KeepItCool kicks so much ass, i love the fubar display |
| 18:15.20 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:16.24 | [MoonWolf] | wow, i lost a AB with 20 points. |
| 18:17.10 | Elkano | 'grats' :( |
| 18:17.28 | [MoonWolf] | at least it was an evenly matched match. |
| 18:17.36 | Ratbert_CP | Wobin_: Umm... Whatcha need? |
| 18:17.51 | Wobin_ | About your suggestion on ignoring bags? |
| 18:17.56 | Ratbert_CP | Yeah? |
| 18:18.13 | Wobin_ | /mp ignore bag [1-4]? |
| 18:18.23 | Ratbert_CP | Something like that. |
| 18:18.32 | Wobin_ | (or really /mp ignore bag [0-8] |
| 18:18.34 | Wobin_ | ) |
| 18:18.41 | Wobin_ | for bankbags |
| 18:18.42 | Wobin_ | too |
| 18:18.45 | Ratbert_CP | Ahhh... :) |
| 18:19.23 | Wobin_ | but maybe just 'ignore bag bank 1' for ease of reading |
| 18:19.36 | Wobin_ | or 'ignore bankbag 1' |
| 18:19.41 | Ratbert_CP | I was thinking that... |
| 18:20.26 | Ratbert_CP | Maybe allow /mp ignore bag [0-8], but also allow /mp ignore bankbag [0-4] |
| 18:20.46 | Wobin_ | bit confusing that way |
| 18:20.53 | Wobin_ | better to separate the two completely |
| 18:21.00 | Wobin_ | yeah, that'll be possible |
| 18:21.11 | Ratbert_CP | OK. Your AddOn, your design. :) |
| 18:21.22 | Wobin_ | we'll say 0 is either the backpack or the bank main section |
| 18:21.37 | Wobin_ | depending on input |
| 18:21.44 | Ratbert_CP | Sounds good |
| 18:22.00 | Neronix | ckknight: you around? |
| 18:22.52 | snurre | hm.. oRA_MainTankFrames are generating errors, but BugSack refuses to record them |
| 18:23.20 | *** join/#wowace Neriak (n=Neriak@dslb-084-058-140-193.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:23.25 | Neriak | hi |
| 18:23.32 | Neriak | haste I've got something for you :) |
| 18:23.35 | Neriak | Core.lua:246: bad argument #1 to `gsub' (string expected, got table) |
| 18:23.35 | Neriak | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.45 | snurre | or rather.. it says "BugSack: An error has been recorded" every time i mouseover one of the frames, but according to /bs show I have no errors, yay |
| 18:23.46 | Neriak | I'm raiding in MC right now |
| 18:23.58 | phyber | snurre: I've had that happen to me before. |
| 18:24.05 | haste | Neriak: What oRA? |
| 18:24.08 | Neriak | yeah |
| 18:24.12 | haste | SVN or 1.0.12 ? |
| 18:24.16 | phyber | my favourite bugsack error is that it doesn't show the full filename when it contains _ |
| 18:24.21 | Neriak | i1.0.12 |
| 18:24.44 | haste | Neriak: can you active viewing of the chan in another window? I have no idea what generates that error in 1.0.12 |
| 18:24.53 | Neriak | I guess it has something to do with the new fucking guildrecruiting chan |
| 18:24.53 | Wobin_ | phyber: Really? |
| 18:25.01 | Wobin_ | So that's why it does that |
| 18:25.05 | haste | Neriak: nope, I've seen it before |
| 18:25.07 | Neriak | and I have that Chatframe Fix mod |
| 18:25.14 | haste | but I haven't been able to recreate it |
| 18:25.19 | Neriak | maybe this is causing the error |
| 18:25.23 | Neriak | because it's new |
| 18:25.29 | phyber | Wobin_: yeah. I noticed it when I had an issue with oRA_Ressurection |
| 18:25.30 | haste | Neriak: it's a module sending the core a table to clearn |
| 18:25.42 | phyber | it would just say Ressurection.lua instead of oRA_Ressurection.lua |
| 18:25.48 | haste | Neriak: but I want to know what module that generated the error |
| 18:25.53 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 18:26.08 | phyber | same with Bag_Status_Meters, I have a problem now and it just says Meters.lua, instead of the full filename |
| 18:26.11 | haste | Neriak: so please - don't update and activate the chan in another window or something |
| 18:26.29 | haste | Neriak: IF it's generated again, send me some information about the chan - a screen is usually enough |
| 18:27.19 | phyber | brb, onyxia. |
| 18:30.04 | Neronix | Do comments take up any memory? |
| 18:30.45 | Wobin_ | Comments? |
| 18:30.52 | Neronix | Yeah |
| 18:31.11 | Neronix | I mean, would using comments a lot make my addon take up more memory? |
| 18:31.15 | Qaarh | code comments shouldn't... |
| 18:31.20 | Qaarh | don't take my word for that though |
| 18:31.39 | Qaarh | but if a programming language is using memory for code comments, I'll have the language designer's head :D |
| 18:31.40 | Wobin_ | They're not loaded to memory |
| 18:31.53 | Wobin_ | Please use comments =) |
| 18:31.56 | Neronix | Woot! Thanks! |
| 18:32.18 | haste | Neriak: hope you did what I said - I want to know _how_ people are able to generate that error :p |
| 18:32.29 | haste | Neriak: and could you send me a list of the modules you use :D ? |
| 18:32.34 | Qaarh | always use comments, for the sake of everyone elses sanity :D |
| 18:32.40 | Neronix | Exactly :) |
| 18:33.08 | kergoth | comments should only be necessary to tell _what_ you're doing. the code itself should tell you how |
| 18:33.25 | Qaarh | kergoth, which isn't always the fact :D |
| 18:33.47 | Neronix | Yeah, but I want to explain every exact detail of what I'm doing |
| 18:33.52 | haste | I mostly don't use comments :< |
| 18:33.54 | Neronix | to help out my fellow noobs |
| 18:34.06 | kergoth | thats a sign taht you should be writing more readable code. |
| 18:34.14 | Neronix | It is |
| 18:34.31 | Wobin_ | Well... |
| 18:34.46 | Wobin_ | I write comments to give a brief overview of the function of that block of code |
| 18:35.05 | Wobin_ | So if anyone is looking for -where- something is happening they don't have to read too much into the code to suceed |
| 18:35.15 | haste | I use comments as bookmarks tho' |
| 18:35.23 | Wobin_ | Just skim the comments til they see the functionality, and then they can read the code to see how it's done |
| 18:35.28 | kergoth | i find a brief summary of what the function does above its definition to be sufficient , generally |
| 18:35.52 | Ratbert_CP | kergoth: Only if your functions are sufficiently atomic... ;) |
| 18:35.57 | Wobin_ | Or if I'm doing something particularly tricky, I'll explain it in comments |
| 18:36.11 | Neronix | Am I going too far? http://ace.pastebin.com/696608 |
| 18:36.21 | Wobin_ | It also helps me recall stuff if I haven't looked at the code for a while =P |
| 18:36.28 | Neriak | haste : wait please I'm raiding and we're moving |
| 18:36.34 | Neriak | make a query if you need info |
| 18:36.57 | kergoth | Ratbert_CP: if they arent, you've got bigger problems :) |
| 18:37.00 | Industrial | oh noes update |
| 18:37.15 | haste | Neriak: I just want you to enable the CTRA channel in a hidden window |
| 18:37.26 | Wobin_ | Neronix: If you're writing an API, then the more comments the better =) |
| 18:37.32 | haste | Neriak: I don't prevent the chat from showing the messages |
| 18:37.46 | haste | Neriak: and just tell me what happened when you got the error |
| 18:37.57 | Neronix | It's not an API function, it's just something I wrote to stop me from reusing similar code 9 times :P |
| 18:38.24 | Neronix | Just a detailed description for my future self and anyone else who feels like reading my code |
| 18:38.49 | Wobin_ | Honestly I'd say there isn't a case of too much commenting normally |
| 18:38.59 | Wobin_ | unless you're rewording the code in english =P |
| 18:39.07 | Neronix | Heh |
| 18:39.34 | kergoth | my policy is if i'm tempted to insert a comment about how a block of code works, its time to scrap it |
| 18:39.55 | kergoth | which is what i did to the object model recently, actually. "erk, even i have trouble understanding it. *boom*" |
| 18:40.22 | Wobin_ | kergoth: Sometimes, however, it -works- well, so you don't want to scrap it |
| 18:40.44 | kergoth | thats rarely the case, unless its as complex as it is for performance reasons, optimized |
| 18:40.57 | kergoth | otherwise it can often be done in a more readable, maintainable fashion |
| 18:41.20 | Wobin_ | I mean some of my sorting logic I use requires some idea of thinking in more than one direction, so it's a bit complex to me. |
| 18:45.47 | kergoth | nod. in that case, i usually preface the block of code with a list of steps taken. first we do this, then this, then this, but no details of how each of those are done individually. you break it up into atomic commentable blocks that way |
| 18:45.48 | Wobin_ | meh, I want to be able to add and subtract tables =) |
| 18:45.58 | Industrial | __add ? :D |
| 18:47.04 | Wobin_ | without having to define it |
| 18:47.14 | Neriak | ok haste |
| 18:47.17 | kergoth | what i hate about using operators/metamethods for those things is that for a lot of objects, what exactly the semantics of + and - are isnt clear, and you dont want to make them perform operations which arent intuitive |
| 18:47.32 | kergoth | thats why an add for tables without a metamethod wouldnt make sense. what exactly do you mean by add? |
| 18:47.37 | kergoth | a union? a raw concatenation? |
| 18:47.47 | Wobin_ | I was hoping for set logic, really |
| 18:48.17 | Wobin_ | tableA & tableB, tableA^tableB etc |
| 18:48.25 | Wobin_ | xor would be nice =) |
| 18:48.38 | Industrial | i;d just dump b into a |
| 18:48.40 | kergoth | then define sets. its been done before |
| 18:48.43 | Industrial | well, b's contents |
| 18:48.48 | kergoth | in fact, there's a Set implementation in stdlib |
| 18:48.56 | kergoth | and theres one on the lua users wiki |
| 18:49.01 | Industrial | and on the lua users wiki |
| 18:49.04 | Industrial | yea |
| 18:49.05 | Industrial | :p |
| 18:49.05 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:49.08 | Industrial | and pil |
| 18:49.08 | Industrial | :d |
| 18:49.09 | haste | Neriak: just so you know - it's the channel input I'm after :) |
| 18:49.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:49.29 | Wobin_ | That's work, see? =) |
| 18:50.51 | Qaarh | this will be fun.. ZF.. and I'm only lvl 42 with this char... |
| 18:51.46 | Wobin_ | What class? |
| 18:51.58 | Qaarh | Shammy |
| 18:52.23 | Qaarh | the others aren't really high level people, so maybe the stairs will be out of the question.. |
| 18:52.34 | Wobin_ | quite likely =) |
| 18:52.48 | Qaarh | we'll be eaten alive in there |
| 18:54.10 | Qaarh | hm... can you raid ZF? |
| 18:54.59 | Wobin_ | you can 10man it |
| 18:55.20 | Wobin_ | according to Atlas, that is |
| 18:56.00 | Qaarh | yes, I just saw, that's why I reacted.. interesting |
| 18:57.00 | Neronix | All 5 man instances below Strat, Scholo and DM are 10 mannable |
| 18:58.20 | haste | nope |
| 18:58.33 | haste | All those instances are locked to 5-man |
| 18:58.36 | haste | DM has always been |
| 18:58.45 | haste | and Strat, scholo was added to the list in 1.10 |
| 18:58.51 | haste | with UBRS that was made 10-man |
| 18:59.27 | Neronix | I meant below them |
| 18:59.44 | Neronix | as in, non-high level instances :P |
| 19:00.05 | haste | oh, I jumped over that word - sorry |
| 19:20.04 | ckknight | hey all |
| 19:21.03 | Neronix | Sup Bossmeister |
| 19:22.12 | ckknight | for tables, add would be union, multiply would be intersection |
| 19:22.27 | ckknight | but that goes back to boolean logic |
| 19:22.34 | ckknight | and I don't really recommend it anyway |
| 19:24.11 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
| 19:24.23 | kergoth | Sets can be useful |
| 19:24.30 | kergoth | not bad, other than being stuck at work |
| 19:24.31 | kergoth | ~today |
| 19:24.33 | purl | Wednesday sucks. |
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| 19:28.05 | CIA-13 | 03cladhaire 07unstable * r1387 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaidChatCmd.lua: PerfectRaid: Finished up the new chat command handler, Chat commands still aren't active, but the framework is done. |
| 19:28.32 | kergoth | hooray, another table indexing 1 vs 0 argume^H^H^H^H^H^Hdiscussion |
| 19:29.18 | ckknight | where? |
| 19:29.34 | haste | You love it when you hear these words on VT (From the MT): "Oh shit, disconnected" |
| 19:30.13 | Neronix | Hmm... weird |
| 19:30.38 | Neronix | ever since I patched to 1.10.2, I get an error about my parent frame being a table value when trying to register a tablet |
| 19:31.08 | Neronix | also, when I tried to register a metrognome timer, it says the variable I contained my metro instance in is nil O.o |
| 19:31.18 | ckknight | odd |
| 19:31.48 | Neronix | I created the parent frame as you suggested: var = CreateFrame("Frame") |
| 19:31.49 | Ratbert_CP | Dammit... ckknight: FuBar is resizing the panels, and it's beginning to piss me off... ;) |
| 19:31.59 | ckknight | hrm |
| 19:32.02 | ckknight | shouldn't do that |
| 19:32.33 | Ratbert_CP | Well... I'm getting double-height panels, and that's even with scaling the thickness to 0 |
| 19:32.40 | ckknight | how's it happening? |
| 19:32.44 | Ratbert_CP | Make that triple-height. |
| 19:32.46 | ckknight | err, odd |
| 19:32.47 | Ratbert_CP | Dunno. |
| 19:32.55 | Ratbert_CP | That's just how it's displaying |
| 19:32.57 | ckknight | are you sure it's not just 3 panels? |
| 19:33.54 | ckknight | I should add an option to turn off overflow |
| 19:33.56 | ckknight | gonna do that now |
| 19:37.14 | ckknight | did you make the OO thing? |
| 19:37.34 | Ratbert_CP | OK, it looks like it was creating multiple panels. But now one of them doesn't have a texture... |
| 19:37.49 | Neronix | gah, no wonder metrognome didn't want to work |
| 19:37.56 | ckknight | hrm |
| 19:38.02 | Neronix | I did GetInstance("1.0") instead of "1" |
| 19:38.05 | Ratbert_CP | Which fixed it... |
| 19:38.07 | ckknight | oh yea, I fixed hat issue on SVN |
| 19:38.07 | Ratbert_CP | :P |
| 19:38.10 | ckknight | that* |
| 19:38.35 | Neronix | Need to ask Tekkub why he doesn't like .* |
| 19:39.43 | ckknight | .*? |
| 19:39.49 | ckknight | oh |
| 19:39.52 | Ratbert_CP | Now I just need to figure out why I can't extract info from Informant... :P |
| 19:39.55 | ckknight | I know |
| 19:39.58 | ckknight | he did it prematurely |
| 19:40.03 | ckknight | and there was no need to change |
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| 19:47.21 | Neronix | ckknight: I seem to have somewhat isolated the problem with tabletlib spitting an error about the parent frame being a table value when registering |
| 19:47.50 | Neronix | If I register on one line ( tablet:Register(parent) ), all's fine |
| 19:48.11 | ckknight | okay |
| 19:48.31 | Neronix | but if I make the register over multiple lines ( tablet:Register(parent*newline*etc) |
| 19:48.36 | Neronix | I get the error |
| 19:48.43 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1388 10FuBar/ (5 files): FuBar - added overflow option. |
| 19:48.46 | ckknight | do you have commas? |
| 19:49.35 | Neronix | should all be in the correct places |
| 19:49.39 | ckknight | pastebin |
| 19:52.38 | Neronix | http://ace.pastebin.com/696818 |
| 19:55.34 | haste | first line? |
| 19:55.46 | Neronix | I just tested it now |
| 19:55.56 | Neronix | I didn't need a comma there yesterday... |
| 19:56.38 | Neronix | Bah, I blame the Comma Gremlins |
| 19:57.38 | Neronix | Sorry to waste your time |
| 19:58.42 | ckknight | dammit, use commas |
| 19:58.43 | Ratbert_CP | Yay! Stoopid capitalization error found, eliminated, and Informant now works withBagBoy! |
| 19:58.55 | Ratbert_CP | s/withBag/with Bag/ |
| 19:59.54 | Ratbert_CP | Now I need to get LootLink, and get *it* to work... |
| 20:03.49 | haste | got to love broken blade |
| 20:03.56 | haste | 2k ms and random disconnects :DDD |
| 20:04.01 | Wobin_ | the game? |
| 20:04.10 | Wobin_ | oh wait that's broken sword |
| 20:04.11 | haste | servername = Burning Blade |
| 20:04.27 | haste | but the common name is Broken/Borked blade |
| 20:04.27 | Wobin_ | Ah, much like our BlackrockDown |
| 20:04.40 | haste | hehe |
| 20:05.06 | Wobin_ | With their swarm of level one gnomes that zerg IF on Argent Dawn with stupid names and yells every time it goes down |
| 20:05.53 | hyperChipmunk | blackrockdown...that's clever |
| 20:05.55 | haste | poor server |
| 20:18.20 | Stylpe | ckknight, you here? |
| 20:18.25 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:18.39 | Stylpe | About FuBar skins, |
| 20:18.47 | netcurse | Stylpe hi, how much strings was it to translate ? |
| 20:19.01 | Stylpe | not more than 100 I think |
| 20:19.28 | netcurse | ok |
| 20:19.33 | Stylpe | ckknight, you didn't mention how to name them or how to make them show up in the menu in-game, should I just look at the code and try to figure it out? |
| 20:19.52 | ckknight | get FuTextures from the SVN |
| 20:19.57 | Stylpe | Ah =) |
| 20:20.03 | ckknight | I also have API docs about this |
| 20:20.45 | Stylpe | I thought I'd amke a set of plain black skins with colored edges |
| 20:21.40 | Stylpe | Wow, Tort sure is taking it's sweet time today |
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| 20:23.27 | Stylpe | There ought to be a way to put Tort into cruise-control mode, where it continually monitors the svn for updates and downloads as needed |
| 20:23.55 | [MoonWolf] | yeah, that would be good on bandwith. |
| 20:24.00 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 20:24.00 | Stylpe | ^_^ |
| 20:24.20 | hyperChipmunk | I svn update * everytime CIA says something, more or less =) |
| 20:24.29 | Tem | ditto |
| 20:24.31 | Tem | lol |
| 20:25.18 | hyperChipmunk | Wobin_: you ought to prevent mrplow from moving mount between bags if the person is mounted; getting dismounted due to an addon sux |
| 20:25.35 | Wobin_ | hyperChipmunk: Latest version |
| 20:25.40 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 20:25.44 | Wobin_ | You can set the mount to not be moved at all |
| 20:25.52 | hyperChipmunk | aha |
| 20:25.54 | Wobin_ | along with anything else you want MrPlow to ignore |
| 20:26.01 | hyperChipmunk | ah, ignore list |
| 20:26.02 | hyperChipmunk | got it |
| 20:26.32 | hyperChipmunk | omg |
| 20:26.52 | hyperChipmunk | your commandline ignore stuff is exactly what I need for BulkMail |
| 20:28.28 | Wobin_ | hehe, it's very simple that stuff. It's not perfect though... |
| 20:28.40 | Wobin_ | but it'll work. I think it cycles more than it needs |
| 20:29.02 | Wobin_ | I was trying to be clever with %b |
| 20:29.04 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 20:29.24 | Tem | Tekkub: why do you have a lock on BigWigs? |
| 20:29.39 | hyperChipmunk | I was planning on doing that today; here I almost thought I'd have to think about it |
| 20:29.48 | Neronix | IT'S ALIVE! |
| 20:29.56 | hyperChipmunk | thx goodness I avoided that |
| 20:29.58 | Neronix | Need to implement a few more events before the alpha release |
| 20:29.59 | [MoonWolf] | what is ? |
| 20:30.05 | kergoth | Wobin_: ooh, are we gonna be able to disable the buttons on the tip that we dont want there? |
| 20:30.24 | Wobin_ | How do you mean? |
| 20:30.42 | [MoonWolf] | you, go work on IC! |
| 20:30.45 | Wobin_ | I just want one that plays well with others =) |
| 20:30.46 | kergoth | i mean, linkwrangler adds all those buttons on the tip to do various things with it |
| 20:30.51 | Wobin_ | s |
| 20:30.53 | kergoth | which is nifty and all, but half the time i dont use them :) |
| 20:30.59 | Tem | Wobin_: also, it's impossible to do until 1.11 |
| 20:31.09 | Wobin_ | how do you mean, Tem? |
| 20:31.16 | Tem | tooltips don't work yet |
| 20:31.30 | Wobin_ | It's basically adding a button to the tooltip frame though |
| 20:31.35 | Wobin_ | (buttons) |
| 20:31.35 | [MoonWolf] | tooltips get fixed in 1.11 ? |
| 20:31.35 | Neronix | [MoonWolf]: NanoStats, albeit partially |
| 20:31.42 | Tem | you can't make dynamic tooltips until 1.11 |
| 20:31.48 | Wobin_ | I'm not =) |
| 20:31.49 | [MoonWolf] | great then i can finally get rid of the xml file in slash. |
| 20:31.51 | Wobin_ | I'm using the game one |
| 20:31.52 | Tem | then why bother? |
| 20:32.17 | Wobin_ | Dynamic frame experience =) |
| 20:32.43 | Wobin_ | I need the practice =P |
| 20:33.15 | kergoth | hehe. so you're doing linkwrangler, just without the ability to open more than one tip at a time? |
| 20:33.16 | Tem | svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/root/trunk/BigWigs' |
| 20:33.16 | Tem | svn: PROPFIND of '/root/trunk/BigWigs': could not connect to server (http://svn.wowace.com) |
| 20:33.23 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 20:33.27 | hyperChipmunk | I can't connect either |
| 20:33.30 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.35 | [MoonWolf] | wait, that was the most important feature of it to begin with.... |
| 20:33.42 | hyperChipmunk | not only bigwigs though |
| 20:33.47 | Tem | ~poke cladhaire |
| 20:33.49 | purl | ACTION grabs a syringe |
| 20:33.53 | Wobin_ | yeah =) |
| 20:34.02 | HoJ|Slayman | i could not connect to svn.wowace.com |
| 20:34.16 | [MoonWolf] | down alright. |
| 20:34.49 | HoJ|Slayman | yippie! |
| 20:34.58 | HoJ|Slayman | i hate that webinterface |
| 20:35.17 | HoJ|Slayman | and right now somebody ist stabbing it! |
| 20:35.38 | [MoonWolf] | dAk7Ch85e |
| 20:35.47 | [MoonWolf] | nobody saw that. |
| 20:36.02 | Tem | again [MoonWolf]? |
| 20:36.04 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 20:36.05 | Tem | that's twice this week |
| 20:36.06 | [MoonWolf] | yeah |
| 20:36.12 | Thiana | And the same password :-P |
| 20:36.16 | [MoonWolf] | its cause i have to get used to dual screens |
| 20:36.27 | [MoonWolf] | i type my passoword on screen one, while irc is still active |
| 20:36.39 | hyperChipmunk | wtg nub |
| 20:36.50 | Tem | yeah... you might want to change that one now |
| 20:37.04 | hyperChipmunk | too late; I already did it for him |
| 20:37.13 | [MoonWolf] | that is going to be hard..... |
| 20:37.25 | [MoonWolf] | you dont know the accound name, or the service for that matter. |
| 20:37.37 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:37.45 | Tem | a good point |
| 20:37.53 | [MoonWolf] | (hint, not my irc pass on this server) |
| 20:37.56 | [MoonWolf] | go ahead and try. |
| 20:38.11 | Tem | if my account wasn't perma-loged at wowi, I'd try there |
| 20:38.25 | Thiana | More likely it's your svn password given that was the subject of discussion, and the svn just came back up :-P |
| 20:38.30 | Tem | some people use the same passwords for a lot of things |
| 20:38.34 | [MoonWolf] | i dont |
| 20:38.42 | HoJ|Slayman | my guess would be: his mail acc PW |
| 20:38.43 | [MoonWolf] | but then again, use random passwords like that. |
| 20:40.00 | kergoth | i use 4 passwords across about 20 systems. not random, but arent exactly dictionary words etiher |
| 20:40.19 | HoJ|Slayman | my fav is a randompart and an senseful part for filling up letters and to create very different PWs |
| 20:41.02 | Neronix | ckknight: You around? Got a question or 2 about deformat |
| 20:41.07 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:48.14 | HoJ|Slayman | I'm getting fuzzy if i shake my head, is that normal? |
| 20:48.30 | [MoonWolf] | its called sleepy |
| 20:49.31 | HoJ|Slayman | s/fuzzy/ a fuzzy vision/ |
| 20:49.38 | HoJ|Slayman | better? |
| 20:49.39 | HoJ|Slayman | ^^ |
| 20:53.24 | Stylpe | ckknight, so, when I've made my skins, I just commit it to the svn? |
| 20:53.45 | Qaarh | HoJ|Slayman, Depends on -how- fuzzy a vision you get.. |
| 20:54.02 | ckknight | put em in FuTextures |
| 20:54.04 | HoJ|Slayman | i see |
| 20:54.04 | ckknight | add it to the lua file |
| 20:54.19 | ckknight | leave your name |
| 20:54.32 | Stylpe | I did =) |
| 20:56.42 | Stylpe | Grammar: different or differently colored? |
| 20:57.18 | Qaarh | anyone know of a good emote menu thing? *needs a complete list* |
| 20:58.01 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1389 10FuBar/ (API.1.2.html FuBarUtils.lua): FuBarUtils - added FuBarUtils.FormatMoneyExtended() and FuBarUtils.FormatDurationExtended() |
| 20:58.16 | ckknight | Titan Emote Menu |
| 20:58.17 | Stylpe | There was a BossPanel addon like that, dunno if it's been updated for FuBar |
| 20:58.28 | ckknight | Stylpe, it violated copyright law and was taken down |
| 20:58.33 | Stylpe | okay |
| 20:58.37 | ckknight | like within a day |
| 20:58.50 | Tem | ;lAKSJHD;KSAJFH;ASDF ! |
| 20:58.53 | ckknight | the problem is, he didn't credit the original author |
| 20:59.22 | Tem | svn: Can't move 'FuBar/SEEmbedKeys/.svn/tmp/entries' to 'FuBar/SEEmbedKeys/.svn/entries': Permission denied |
| 20:59.23 | [MoonWolf] | CALM DOWN TEM |
| 20:59.29 | [MoonWolf] | sorry for the caps |
| 20:59.35 | [MoonWolf] | caps-lock is my pet attack |
| 20:59.38 | Tem | lol |
| 20:59.46 | CIA-13 | 03stylpe * r1390 10FuTextures/ (8 files): FuTextures: Added multiple skins, all with a black background, but with differently colored borders. |
| 20:59.52 | Stylpe | Chu! |
| 20:59.57 | Qaarh | lol |
| 21:00.21 | hyperChipmunk | hey, guess that means svn is bakc up |
| 21:00.31 | Stylpe | It was down? |
| 21:00.33 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1391 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (3 files): |
| 21:00.33 | CIA-13 | FuBar_TopScoreFu - added purging of data. |
| 21:00.33 | CIA-13 | Now can handle resists. |
| 21:02.20 | Tem | I don't understand what the problem is |
| 21:02.44 | Tem | I just did a chmod -R +rw * on my addon directory |
| 21:02.47 | Tem | so wtf |
| 21:03.01 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten|sleeping (n=Kaelten@68.63.3.183) |
| 21:03.17 | hyperChipmunk | okay? |
| 21:03.20 | hyperChipmunk | what's the problem |
| 21:03.39 | Tem | svn: Can't move 'FuBar/SEEmbedKeys/.svn/tmp/entries' to 'FuBar/SEEmbedKeys/.svn/entries': Permission denied |
| 21:03.56 | hyperChipmunk | chmod -R +rw */.* |
| 21:04.01 | Tem | I keep getting that on random bits of my interface directory |
| 21:04.44 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1392 10FuBar_RestFu/ (RestFu.lua RestFuLocals.lua): FuBar_RestFu - added a time played aspect, ala Titan AllPlayed. |
| 21:05.18 | Tem | hmm |
| 21:05.33 | Tem | can I mount a remote resource |
| 21:05.40 | Tem | like... the root of the svn |
| 21:05.46 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 21:06.00 | Tem | I'm sick of typing http://svn.wowace.com... |
| 21:06.04 | Tem | I wanna type ~/svn |
| 21:06.10 | [MoonWolf] | hmm, knowing linux, you most likley can. |
| 21:06.24 | hyperChipmunk | I aliased it in hosts |
| 21:06.32 | Tem | it sorta bitched at me when I tried to mount it the way I know how |
| 21:06.41 | hyperChipmunk | but yea, I tried to mount it =) |
| 21:06.50 | Tem | kergoth: ? |
| 21:06.51 | hyperChipmunk | I bet there's an svnmount out there somewhere |
| 21:06.59 | hyperChipmunk | *looks* |
| 21:07.18 | hyperChipmunk | svnfs |
| 21:07.33 | Tem | lol that was fast |
| 21:09.08 | *** join/#wowace snurre (n=snurre@AVelizy-153-1-22-40.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:10.10 | hyperChipmunk | /usr/share/doc/subversion-1.3.1/tools/bdb/svnfs.py |
| 21:10.15 | Tem | why the hell does man have to take so damned long |
| 21:10.47 | hyperChipmunk | # A handle object for convenience in opening a svn repository |
| 21:13.54 | Tem | where did you find it hyperChipmunk? |
| 21:13.54 | Ratbert_CP | What's the preferred method for embedded libs? AceLibStub? |
| 21:14.23 | ckknight | is that even done yet? |
| 21:14.29 | Wobin_ | hrm, I can't seem to get SetSCript to be dynamic enough |
| 21:14.38 | Ratbert_CP | Ask clad|sleep... :) |
| 21:14.39 | ckknight | Ratbert_CP, when AceLibrary becomes finalized, yes |
| 21:15.00 | Ratbert_CP | And in the meantime? |
| 21:15.09 | ckknight | I'm using Iriel's |
| 21:15.19 | Wobin_ | You can use Iriel's or Tekk's |
| 21:15.34 | Ratbert_CP | Right... Where's the template? ;) |
| 21:15.43 | Wobin_ | SVN for Tekk's |
| 21:15.53 | Wobin_ | EmbedLib? |
| 21:16.14 | Neronix | Anyone here raid mc/bwl/aq40? |
| 21:16.50 | hyperChipmunk | Tem: whatchoo mean? |
| 21:17.06 | Tem | oh nevermind |
| 21:17.09 | Tem | I found it on the internet |
| 21:17.14 | Tem | that's not what I want |
| 21:17.25 | Tem | I just want to mount the thing |
| 21:17.40 | hyperChipmunk | yea, looking into that |
| 21:17.47 | hyperChipmunk | I see this, though: |
| 21:17.52 | Tem | so I can refer to it via a local path rather than a remote path |
| 21:18.10 | hyperChipmunk | http://codespeak.net/svn/user/arigo/hack/pylufs/svnfs.py |
| 21:18.42 | phyber | is that thing based on FUSE? |
| 21:19.06 | ckknight | lufs, it looks like |
| 21:21.45 | CIA-13 | 03stylpe * r1393 10FuBar_ReloadFu/reload.lua: FuBar_ReloadFu: Just added a fuCompatible entry, so it works =) |
| 21:21.58 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 21:22.32 | Stylpe | I'm hungry now =P |
| 21:25.42 | Neronix | Anyone here raid mc/bwl/aq40? |
| 21:25.47 | phyber | Neronix: yeah |
| 21:25.58 | phyber | MC, and we try BWL sometimes. |
| 21:26.09 | Neronix | phyber: What's the maximum amount of damage you'd expect to do in one instance of combat? |
| 21:26.42 | Lucen | like a full MC run? |
| 21:26.53 | phyber | just me? |
| 21:27.09 | Neronix | damaged caused in one single battle by one single person |
| 21:27.13 | phyber | hmm |
| 21:27.20 | Neronix | said person should preferably be on dps |
| 21:27.40 | kergoth | Tem|Work: there are fuse filesystems (filesystem in userspace) for all sorts of things. ssh's to remote hosts, etc. wouldnt surprise me if there was a webdav filesystem.... |
| 21:28.06 | kergoth | Tem|Work: alternatively, check out svk. it gives you the shorthand for repos, and a shitload of more functionality. i use it nonstop, and couldnt maintain my addon set without it |
| 21:28.07 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: I'm looking at that now |
| 21:28.21 | Lucen | 100 - 200k, neronix? can't remember off hand what our max dps does on boss fights |
| 21:28.28 | hyperChipmunk | there is a mount.davfs out there |
| 21:28.37 | Neronix | never, ever 7 digit? |
| 21:28.41 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: nod, figured |
| 21:28.53 | hyperChipmunk | trying to find out what it comes from though +) |
| 21:29.08 | hyperChipmunk | http://dav.sourceforge.net |
| 21:29.13 | Lucen | Neronix: nah..i think that'd take way way to long...hehe |
| 21:29.22 | Neronix | Ok, thanks a bunch |
| 21:29.31 | hyperChipmunk | Davfs2 is a Linux file system driver that allows you to mount a WebDAV server as a local disk drive. |
| 21:29.54 | Lucen | Neronix: moving forward though, past expansion...never know |
| 21:31.01 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: that use fuse? |
| 21:31.01 | kergoth | i need to write a fuse filesystem for leaftag one of these days |
| 21:31.01 | hyperChipmunk | "Davfs2 uses Coda for kernel driver and neon for WebDAV interface." |
| 21:31.01 | Neronix | I was just wondering whether I'd need to shrink my addon's text a little :) |
| 21:31.16 | hyperChipmunk | not python at all, as far as I can tell |
| 21:31.33 | kergoth | ah, uses coda |
| 21:31.50 | phyber | http://noedler.de/projekte/wdfs/ |
| 21:31.59 | phyber | ^ FUSE based, for winning, etc. |
| 21:33.18 | hyperChipmunk | phyber: gg |
| 21:33.24 | snurre | i love being in this channel.. i no longer feel like a complete geek :p |
| 21:33.31 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:33.39 | ckknight | I'm bored |
| 21:33.59 | *** join/#wowace ag` (i=Andreas@0x50c4844b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk) |
| 21:39.21 | ckknight | I want to work on Ace2 :-P |
| 21:40.05 | snurre | i want to.. uhm.. be moral support |
| 21:43.54 | hyperChipmunk | /sbin/mount.davfs: Authentication with server or proxy failed. Look up the log files for details. |
| 21:44.19 | hyperChipmunk | be nice if they told me wtf the log file is |
| 21:44.51 | Tem | whew |
| 21:44.52 | Tem | that was fun |
| 21:44.56 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 21:45.07 | hyperChipmunk | you looked pretty busy there |
| 21:47.46 | Tem | this is my 3rd week here |
| 21:48.02 | Tem | this is the first time I've done actual work |
| 21:48.16 | *** part/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce4.disney.com) |
| 21:48.17 | hyperChipmunk | you should go take a breather |
| 21:48.20 | hyperChipmunk | get a glass of water |
| 21:48.20 | phyber | hyperChipmunk: check /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog. usual place for stuff like that to dump crap to. |
| 21:48.29 | Tem | I got some ice cream on the way back |
| 21:48.31 | hyperChipmunk | phyber: did |
| 21:48.32 | Tem | does that count? |
| 21:48.36 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that works |
| 21:49.00 | phyber | ah, in that case, man page time I guess :/ |
| 21:49.14 | hyperChipmunk | did that too =P |
| 21:49.45 | phyber | strace time? |
| 21:49.50 | hyperChipmunk | yea =P |
| 21:49.56 | phyber | :) |
| 21:50.55 | hyperChipmunk | May 3 17:43:03 hyperion mount.davfs: Authentication failure: |
| 21:50.55 | hyperChipmunk | May 3 17:43:03 hyperion mount.davfs: webdav.org top-level |
| 21:51.07 | hyperChipmunk | massively helpful |
| 21:51.07 | Tem | that's amazingly informative |
| 21:51.17 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 21:51.18 | *** join/#wowace Ratbert_C1 (n=KCummins@adsl-71-147-10-6.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:52.23 | Neronix | 2 events down, 5 to go |
| 21:52.34 | Neronix | and then NS will finally be released |
| 22:01.05 | hyperChipmunk | sweet |
| 22:01.39 | hyperChipmunk | got it (sorta) working |
| 22:03.07 | Tem | ;aslkhflahj' |
| 22:03.15 | Tem | this is driving me insane |
| 22:03.20 | Tem | svn: Can't move 'Catalyst/.svn/tmp/entries' to 'Catalyst/.svn/entries': Permission denied |
| 22:03.33 | Neriak | hatse: still there ? |
| 22:03.36 | Neriak | haste: |
| 22:03.43 | Tem | I keep getting that message for random things in my addon set |
| 22:04.13 | hyperChipmunk | victory is mine! |
| 22:04.21 | Tem | and a chmod doesn't fix it |
| 22:04.36 | Neriak | I'd like to know why my addon is causing a 20 second freeze when logging in .. it's since the damned patch |
| 22:04.50 | hyperChipmunk | oh sweet |
| 22:04.58 | Neriak | I'm doing nothing more than to register three events and checking self.version |
| 22:05.15 | CIA-13 | 03ratbert * r1394 10BagBoy/ (33 files in 10 dirs): |
| 22:05.15 | CIA-13 | Removed dependencies for SpecialEvents and PeriodicTable (added the embedded libs) |
| 22:05.15 | CIA-13 | Verified support for PackRat, Auctioneer and Informant |
| 22:05.15 | CIA-13 | Made sort options sticky |
| 22:05.17 | hyperChipmunk | [staharaj@hyperion]$ ls ace |
| 22:05.18 | hyperChipmunk | 0-all-revisions branches tags trunk |
| 22:05.35 | Neriak | seems they did stealth patch shit again |
| 22:05.36 | hyperChipmunk | [staharaj@hyperion]$ ls ace/0-all-revisions |
| 22:05.36 | hyperChipmunk | 0-199 1000-1199 1200-1394 200-399 400-599 600-799 800-999 |
| 22:06.10 | hyperChipmunk | this is so freaking sweet |
| 22:06.24 | hyperChipmunk | [staharaj@hyperion]$ ls ace/0-all-revisions/0-199/99 |
| 22:06.24 | hyperChipmunk | 99 AceFry AceItemBid AceUnitFrames branches tags trunk |
| 22:06.42 | ckknight | lol, cool |
| 22:06.51 | FryGuy- | who moved those outside of trunk? :/ |
| 22:06.54 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 22:07.04 | Neriak | haha |
| 22:07.07 | hyperChipmunk | duno |
| 22:07.19 | hyperChipmunk | prolly people getting the hang of svn |
| 22:07.24 | hyperChipmunk | that was r.99 |
| 22:07.26 | FryGuy- | well those are my addons |
| 22:07.30 | FryGuy- | i committed them |
| 22:07.31 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 22:07.31 | CIA-13 | 03ratbert 07BagBoy-0.7 * r1395 10BagBoy/: Tagging Beta 0.7 |
| 22:07.34 | hyperChipmunk | nub |
| 22:07.38 | FryGuy- | but that was before they went to the standard /trunk |
| 22:07.46 | FryGuy- | i put it in my own /fryguy/trunk |
| 22:07.48 | hyperChipmunk | interesting |
| 22:08.04 | FryGuy- | and I haven't touched them since then :p |
| 22:08.41 | hyperChipmunk | everybody ELSE's are in the right place >8p |
| 22:09.10 | hyperChipmunk | man this is awesome |
| 22:10.00 | hyperChipmunk | thx Tem for inspiring me to get off my lazy butt and get this done |
| 22:10.20 | hyperChipmunk | now to try some cp's |
| 22:12.08 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1396 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed category coloring with multiple columns. |
| 22:14.20 | hyperChipmunk | interesting |
| 22:14.23 | hyperChipmunk | cp doesn't work |
| 22:14.34 | hyperChipmunk | but mv does, with errors that you can't remove the remote =x |
| 22:14.41 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 22:14.42 | hyperChipmunk | duh |
| 22:14.44 | hyperChipmunk | they're directories |
| 22:15.22 | hyperChipmunk | awesome |
| 22:16.12 | hyperChipmunk | that fuse one is great |
| 22:17.24 | hyperChipmunk | watch me royally hose the repository now |
| 22:18.09 | hyperChipmunk | crud |
| 22:18.14 | hyperChipmunk | can't update it though =\ |
| 22:18.35 | hyperChipmunk | you don't get a .svn directory when you cp |
| 22:19.02 | hyperChipmunk | although..... |
| 22:19.08 | phyber | hwo are you cp'ing it? |
| 22:19.11 | phyber | how |
| 22:19.18 | hyperChipmunk | I could mount each addon individually >8) |
| 22:19.31 | hyperChipmunk | and let wow read from the svn |
| 22:20.30 | hyperChipmunk | i just cp -r svnace/BugSack . |
| 22:20.53 | Qaarh | hyperChipmunk, I think that would be a bad idea... although it is useful, a bad idea.. |
| 22:21.03 | hyperChipmunk | Qaarh: rofl no kidding? =) |
| 22:21.09 | Qaarh | hyperChipmunk, :D |
| 22:21.14 | hyperChipmunk | it seems to do an export rather than a checkout |
| 22:21.21 | hyperChipmunk | wonder if it picks up externals |
| 22:21.43 | ckknight | well, WoW only reads it at the beginning |
| 22:21.56 | ckknight | and on reloadui |
| 22:21.57 | hyperChipmunk | and every reloadui |
| 22:22.19 | ckknight | I'd say try it out, for curiosity's sake |
| 22:22.19 | hyperChipmunk | and ace svn is painfully slow |
| 22:22.35 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I'm gonna do it with FuBar if externals work |
| 22:22.57 | hyperChipmunk | which they don't =P |
| 22:22.59 | ckknight | aw |
| 22:23.00 | ckknight | sucks |
| 22:23.56 | hyperChipmunk | doing a /rl to update all addons would be hilarious though |
| 22:25.18 | hyperChipmunk | ofc in a few years, that'll be commonplace, I bet |
| 22:26.01 | phyber | those were the days |
| 22:26.06 | hyperChipmunk | too bad they're so small; this'd be a great way to save space =) |
| 22:26.54 | ckknight | why did they make it so you have to quit wow? |
| 22:26.57 | ckknight | warden-related? |
| 22:27.01 | hyperChipmunk | LoD |
| 22:27.20 | hyperChipmunk | I thought you told me that =) |
| 22:27.58 | phyber | they didn't want people to add data to a running client i think. "bot prevention" crap. because everyone running a bot uses the LUA interface! |
| 22:28.30 | phyber | and it's crap anyway. since you could just make an addon, and from then on just change the .lua for it and reload the UI. gets the same effect. |
| 22:28.44 | hyperChipmunk | I thought it was a security thing at first, too; but apparently it was necessary for LoadOnDemand |
| 22:30.55 | snurre | mmm.. <3 http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.aspx?ForumName=wow-customer-service |
| 22:32.13 | ckknight | ? |
| 22:33.41 | snurre | now i can just refer retards there when they have questions, instead of actually replying properly :p |
| 22:37.49 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 22:38.25 | hyperChipmunk | note to self: don't mount repo in wow directory unless you want wow to scan every file in every revision before it starts |
| 22:42.19 | Tem | lol |
| 22:42.29 | hyperChipmunk | >8P |
| 22:42.30 | Qaarh | okay, time for me to go sleep. see you all |
| 22:42.31 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: what tool did you use to do it? |
| 22:42.34 | hyperChipmunk | wdfs |
| 22:42.40 | Tem | link? |
| 22:42.41 | hyperChipmunk | and it worked for PerfectRaid =) |
| 22:43.06 | hyperChipmunk | I now have my wow/Interface/AddOns/PerfectRaid mounted to the svn |
| 22:43.19 | hyperChipmunk | hm, sec; someone posted it above |
| 22:43.40 | hyperChipmunk | http://noedler.de/projekte/wdfs/ |
| 22:43.56 | hyperChipmunk | had to compile the fuse kernel module, but after that, it worked okay |
| 22:44.00 | hyperChipmunk | no externals is harsh though |
| 22:44.36 | hyperChipmunk | oh ouch |
| 22:44.50 | hyperChipmunk | yea, no luck there |
| 22:45.01 | hyperChipmunk | well, I duno how cygwin works |
| 22:45.13 | Tem | yeah, screw it |
| 22:45.22 | Tem | I'll just wait until I'm running linux exclusively |
| 22:45.24 | hyperChipmunk | but I can't imagine that being pleasant |
| 22:45.45 | phyber | since it relys on a kernel module, it wouldn't work at all. |
| 22:46.35 | hyperChipmunk | you can try out the davfs one, but I wasn't able to get it to work (that authentication thing) |
| 22:47.15 | hyperChipmunk | http://dav.sourceforge.net |
| 22:47.35 | kergoth | davfs isnt going to work either, that relies on a kernel module too |
| 22:47.43 | hyperChipmunk | oh right |
| 22:47.45 | hyperChipmunk | yea it does |
| 22:48.59 | hyperChipmunk | cygwin might support that,though |
| 22:49.11 | hyperChipmunk | I honestly don't have a clue what cygwin does |
| 22:52.13 | kergoth | cygwin.com :P |
| 22:52.34 | hyperChipmunk | s/have a clue/care/ |
| 22:52.41 | hyperChipmunk | >8) |
| 22:57.43 | Tem | yay |
| 22:57.44 | Tem | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/matt/c/Program Files/svk/bin/svk line 3. |
| 23:00.11 | kergoth | you're missing perl modules, most likely |
| 23:00.15 | kergoth | svk needs quite a few of them |
| 23:00.30 | Neronix | Only 2 events left to get handled... |
| 23:01.40 | ckknight | question, is there any way to have case-insensitive keys? |
| 23:01.43 | ckknight | in tables |
| 23:01.54 | ckknight | so that t["alpha"] is the same as t["Alpha"]? |
| 23:01.55 | Neronix | well, only one. the other one's non important and I can't test it tonight :P |
| 23:02.36 | Tem | kergoth: yeah that's the problem |
| 23:02.44 | phyber | Neronix: what are you writing? |
| 23:02.52 | Neronix | NanoStats |
| 23:02.53 | Tem | I'm in the process of forcing cygwin to update them for me |
| 23:02.56 | phyber | ah |
| 23:03.18 | Neronix | It's almost ready for actual use |
| 23:03.32 | ckknight | what's it do, and should I use it? |
| 23:04.00 | Neronix | I just need to implement a handler for CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_PET_HITS and I can release a beta |
| 23:04.36 | Neronix | ckknight: Little display of the dps/hps/both and damage/healing/both done in the previous battle |
| 23:04.45 | Neronix | also updates during battle |
| 23:05.30 | Tem | ckknight: it could be accomplished via a metatable |
| 23:05.32 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:05.50 | ckknight | Tem, with __index and __newindex, or through some other means? |
| 23:05.58 | Tem | both |
| 23:06.02 | Tem | I'll write up an example |
| 23:06.17 | ckknight | I knew a metatable would have to be involved |
| 23:06.56 | kergoth | Tem: let me know how it goes, i've never tried using svk under windows befoer |
| 23:07.20 | Tem | kergoth: supposedly they support windows |
| 23:07.26 | Tem | they even had an installer |
| 23:07.36 | kergoth | nice |
| 23:07.39 | Neronix | ckknight: Oh, and you should use it :P |
| 23:07.54 | kergoth | svk mi http://svn.wowace.com/root //mirror/wowace |
| 23:07.57 | kergoth | svk sync //mirror/wowace |
| 23:08.03 | kergoth | svk co //mirror/wowace/trunk/Foo |
| 23:13.37 | Ratbert_CP | I use them heavily for my item data caching... |
| 23:13.43 | *** join/#wowace Codayus (i=cody@l0gical.net) |
| 23:15.02 | Tem | ckknight: http://ace.pastebin.com/697159 |
| 23:19.11 | hyperChipmunk | wow doesn't support select? |
| 23:19.22 | kergoth | select() is lua 5.1, not lua 5.0. |
| 23:20.23 | Sokurai | Is there an Ace alternative to HitsMode? |
| 23:20.27 | Tem | no |
| 23:20.34 | hyperChipmunk | np that's like a 3-line local function |
| 23:20.39 | Neronix | Now to commit this bitch |
| 23:20.43 | Sokurai | k :o |
| 23:21.12 | phyber | <3 CPAN. I'd hate to have to install all of these modules that SVK wants one by one. |
| 23:21.21 | Sokurai | Are there any other mods similar to HitsMode that I may want to look at before choosing it? |
| 23:21.59 | CIA-13 | 03aileen * r1397 10FuBar_VolumeFu/ (12 files): |
| 23:21.59 | CIA-13 | FuBar_VolumeFu: |
| 23:21.59 | CIA-13 | - Behavior has significantly changed! The volume controls are now all in the menu and the tooltip displays the current values of the settings. |
| 23:21.59 | CIA-13 | - Updated to fuCompatible 101. |
| 23:21.59 | CIA-13 | - Uses new shiny DewdropLib and TabletLib functionality. No more XML file. |
| 23:22.01 | CIA-13 | - New mute icons. No mute functionality, though. (Yet!) |
| 23:22.29 | Tem | yay |
| 23:22.47 | Tem | I never liked the control being on the tootlip |
| 23:22.50 | hyperChipmunk | ooh |
| 23:23.10 | Neronix | Is it normal for a mod that uses 4 libs to show up as using 1.5mb according to warmup? |
| 23:23.20 | kergoth | Sokurai: try out mcombatlog |
| 23:23.37 | kergoth | Neronix: if that was the mod that resulted in the libs being instantiated, then yep |
| 23:23.55 | Neronix | I see, thanks |
| 23:28.17 | CIA-13 | 03neronix * r1398 10NanoStats/ (NanoStats.lua NanoStatsLocals.lua): |
| 23:28.17 | CIA-13 | NanoStats |
| 23:28.17 | CIA-13 | - Damage parsing complete. MUCH more significant than it sounds. |
| 23:28.17 | CIA-13 | - Yes, it does something now! |
| 23:28.18 | CIA-13 | - So go test it please, and if you do get an error, please try to find out which exact combat log message caused it |
| 23:29.23 | phyber | Neronix: got a screenshot anywhere? |
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| 23:30.42 | Neronix | http://neronix.ath.cx:8080/NanoStatsPrototypeDesign.PNG |
| 23:31.00 | Neronix | That was from a couple of days ago when I was trying to get the interface looking right |
| 23:31.09 | Neronix | the text's now centre aligned |
| 23:31.28 | clad|sleep | kergoth: ZOMG HI |
| 23:31.32 | Neronix | and there's no healing stuff implemented right now so you'll just see damage |
| 23:31.37 | Neronix | morning clad |
| 23:32.07 | kergoth | cladhaire: heh, if you havent heard, found some issues in the design of the object model, specifically wrt constructor execution |
| 23:33.11 | cladhaire | kergoth: Well work on it =) |
| 23:33.15 | cladhaire | kergoth: Look at my commandline parser =) |
| 23:33.20 | cladhaire | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1415.0.html |
| 23:33.41 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/PerfectRaid/unstable/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaidChatCmd.lua to be exact |
| 23:36.50 | hyperChipmunk | looks slick |
| 23:38.27 | kergoth | cladhaire: nice, i like it. clean. i like the validation closures |
| 23:39.01 | cladhaire | i need to clean up the chat closure creation, and not create everything all the time |
| 23:39.04 | cladhaire | but that part was hacked together |
| 23:40.34 | Sokurai | Thanks kergoth :o |
| 23:40.37 | kergoth | nod. i'd recommend moving a few of those out of the function, then wrapping it all in a do end block |
| 23:41.11 | kergoth | with a single 'local foo' before the block to make the main function accessible outside the block |
| 23:41.38 | cladhaire | AYE |
| 23:41.41 | cladhaire | err aye |
| 23:41.44 | cladhaire | that's the plan |
| 23:44.27 | kergoth | cladhaire: main issues surround argument passing to object and class constructors. argument passing makes no sense in mixin context, because you're using super(), and as a result have no idea which class you're passing to, so you cant know the correct args to pass it. but in the subtyping case, you know exactly who you're initializing |
| 23:46.17 | cladhaire | ooh |
| 23:46.18 | cladhaire | that sucks |
| 23:48.35 | cladhaire | The goal with the new AceChatCmd is to do ALL tokenizing, parsing, and validation in the handler, not the option method. |
| 23:50.24 | kergoth | so we either ditch argument passing into constructors entirely, which makes it less likely that people will be using classes and objects outside of addon creation |
| 23:50.30 | kergoth | or we rearchitect it to split mixins from subtype |
| 23:50.58 | cladhaire | I doubt peopel will use the class system outside addon creation |
| 23:51.01 | kergoth | which basically means reverting to single inheritence for type, then a systematic :Embed of each of the mixins (though i'd rather just call the mixin object's constructor) |
| 23:51.02 | cladhaire | unfortunately |
| 23:51.07 | *** join/#wowace netcurse (i=NeT-@m127.net81-67-144.noos.fr) |
| 23:51.11 | cladhaire | but given the context.. thats not unreasonable |
| 23:51.19 | cladhaire | Evening netcurse =) |
| 23:51.24 | netcurse | Hello! |
| 23:51.39 | kergoth | i never liked multiple inheritence for mixins, implementation wise or conceptually, but it just gave us a convenient easy syntax and methodology |
| 23:52.25 | *** part/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce4.disney.com) |
| 23:54.34 | kergoth | so i'm torn. the current setup works... and i havent decided whether i like the idea of mixins being able to have conflicting methods anyway, which is the only thing the multiple inheritence version gives you, really, via the linearization |
| 23:59.26 | Neronix`sleep | night |
