| 00:00.02 | cladhaire | an optional dependency on FuBar for each plugin resolves that-- by loading FuBar first, and then loading the embed alongside it. |
| 00:00.08 | cladhaire | You should just choose one *shrug* |
| 00:00.11 | ckknight | but if they don't depend on FuBar, they'll have it as an embed |
| 00:00.40 | Thiana | *sigh* Go to login to check my changes and the auth servers are down... again :( |
| 00:00.56 | ckknight | cladhaire, yea, plugins will have an optionaldep for FuBar |
| 00:01.02 | GenNMX|Thrae | I'm confused again...Standalone != Embedded to me |
| 00:01.38 | ckknight | right. |
| 00:01.50 | GenNMX|Thrae | Standalone == Addons/LibraryName, where as Embedded == Addons/AddonName/LibraryName |
| 00:02.26 | ckknight | Standalone == AddOns/LibraryName/Lib/LibraryName.lua, Embedded == Addons/AddonName/LibraryName/LibraryName.lua |
| 00:02.40 | ckknight | yep. |
| 00:03.04 | ckknight | AddOns/LibraryName/LibraryName.toc will reference the lua file, but nothing else, really |
| 00:03.11 | ckknight | so it works if you want it standalone |
| 00:03.14 | ckknight | but it's not common |
| 00:04.35 | Tem|Food | oh damn that was one good steak sammich |
| 00:05.56 | cladhaire | Tem: I had Ramen, Pierogies and Chicken Nuggets |
| 00:05.57 | cladhaire | so bad. |
| 00:05.58 | cladhaire | os good. |
| 00:06.11 | Tem | leftover steak |
| 00:06.15 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.18 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.22 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.27 | Tem | = good |
| 00:06.29 | cladhaire | mmmmm |
| 00:06.33 | GenNMX|Thrae | ckknight: OK, I think I get it now. You're talking about the people that don't want a direct dependency on FuBar but also don't want to embed FuBarPlugin since they'll be stuck with updating the embedded library themselves? |
| 00:06.39 | cladhaire | i'm jealous |
| 00:06.48 | Tem | I have more for later :_ |
| 00:06.49 | Tem | ") |
| 00:06.52 | Tem | :)* |
| 00:07.02 | Tem | (btw that astrix is me drooling) |
| 00:07.05 | GenNMX|Thrae | Hence the want for a standalone FuBarPlugin library? |
| 00:07.18 | Tem | (yes I know it's spelled wrong, I dun cayr) |
| 00:07.44 | ckknight | GenNMX|Thrae, no one in their right mind will have FuBarPlugin-1.2 as a standalone |
| 00:07.51 | ckknight | except probably me, because I'm developing it |
| 00:08.30 | GenNMX|Thrae | ckknight: Ohhhh |
| 00:09.05 | ckknight | all my libs function as standalone as well |
| 00:09.32 | GenNMX|Thrae | I was going to suggest using the code from ace:RegisterFunctions() as a framework if you want to work with multiple versions of embedded libs |
| 00:09.36 | Tem | I just finished another semester of college, and I've *still* never had Ramen |
| 00:09.52 | cladhaire | GenNMX|Thrae: Better to use the embed library stub |
| 00:09.53 | ckknight | okay, it works right |
| 00:09.56 | cladhaire | Tem: I love ramen |
| 00:10.07 | ckknight | GenNMX|Thrae, I'll be waiting for AceLibrary |
| 00:10.14 | Tem | ugh, I'm gonna have to make an MT ui |
| 00:10.21 | Tem | PRT sux |
| 00:10.21 | GenNMX|Thrae | cladhaire: "stub"? |
| 00:10.26 | cladhaire | aye |
| 00:10.40 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1849 10FuBar-compat-1.0/FuBar-compat-1.0.toc: FuBar-compat-1.0 - updated TOC |
| 00:10.46 | Tem | it's a cool concept, but it's visually unappealing to me |
| 00:10.48 | GenNMX|Thrae | You mean allowing the Library to exist as a standalone? |
| 00:10.49 | cladhaire | http://www.iriel.org/wow/addondev/index.html |
| 00:10.59 | Tem | and I found it quite useless in bwl last night |
| 00:11.18 | cladhaire | Tem: I kinda want to make a more minimal PRT as a module for PR |
| 00:11.20 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1850 10FuBar/ (. FuBar.toc FuBarPlugin.lua compat-1.0.lua): FuBar - Moved files around, changed toc. Split FuBarPlugin-1.2 and FuBar-compat-1.0 from FuBar. |
| 00:11.27 | Tem | cladhaire: do it |
| 00:11.30 | Tem | cladhaire: right now |
| 00:11.37 | Tem | I raid in 50 minutes, GO! |
| 00:11.40 | cladhaire | haha |
| 00:11.43 | cladhaire | fat chance =) |
| 00:11.46 | Tem | lol |
| 00:12.19 | Tem | I'm willing to make one, it's just going to take me a bit to get settled on the "format" of how PRT looks |
| 00:12.25 | GenNMX|Thrae | cladhaire: I thought ace:RegisterFunctions effectively implements an Embedded Shared Library? |
| 00:12.40 | cladhaire | GenNMX|Thrae: Not with the robust nature that the stub concept does |
| 00:12.46 | cladhaire | thats what AceLibrary is, and everything in Ace2.0 is built on it. |
| 00:12.49 | Tem | it implements an embedded library just not effectively |
| 00:13.43 | cladhaire | We need to do some final testing on AceLibrary.. but that portion of it it pretty much done. |
| 00:13.48 | cladhaire | I've been the only one doing unit testing.. |
| 00:13.55 | cladhaire | and its not smart to be the only one testing your code =) |
| 00:13.57 | GenNMX|Thrae | Ah, I see. |
| 00:14.17 | cladhaire | I need the rest of the dev team to try to break AceLibrary upgrading itself |
| 00:14.18 | cladhaire | etc. |
| 00:14.41 | Tem | I will have free time at work later this week |
| 00:14.48 | cladhaire | then i'll likely put StickyFrames or some other static library out. |
| 00:14.53 | cladhaire | as an example. |
| 00:15.01 | Tem | next few days we are rolling out a new image |
| 00:15.19 | cladhaire | The issue right now is an inheritance-type library like AceHook, where there's the :Embed() stuff.. which really should be using AceOO |
| 00:15.19 | GenNMX|Thrae | I was going to say -- it'll take me a few minutes to figure out exactly how this "stub" can upgrade itself. |
| 00:15.25 | ckknight | I'd be happy to convert some of my more docile libs to AceLibrary, BabbleLib, TouristLib, etc. |
| 00:15.34 | ckknight | it's pretty cool, GenNMX|Thrae |
| 00:15.41 | kergoth | i'll have time later this week as well, have a deadline real soon here and the usual post-deadline madness |
| 00:16.11 | cladhaire | ckknight: Most of yours are static libs, correct? |
| 00:16.15 | cladhaire | kergoth: Aye.. I know you guys are just as busy as I am =) |
| 00:16.19 | ckknight | cladhaire, embedded already |
| 00:16.21 | ckknight | using Iriel's |
| 00:16.30 | cladhaire | ckknight: I know.. but they're static correct |
| 00:16.37 | ckknight | what do you mean by that? |
| 00:16.37 | cladhaire | no pseudo-inheritance? |
| 00:16.39 | ckknight | right |
| 00:16.41 | cladhaire | LibraryName:Method |
| 00:16.45 | ckknight | right |
| 00:16.52 | ckknight | the ones that end in Lib are. |
| 00:16.52 | cladhaire | as opposed to InhertingNamespace:Method |
| 00:16.55 | cladhaire | ok |
| 00:17.26 | GenNMX|Thrae | It reminds me of one episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation where Data overcomes a total system wipe by copying data to be deleted to sectors already marked deleted -- IE, the concept of upgrading code you've already used. |
| 00:17.39 | ckknight | it's BabbleLib:GetInstance('Class 1.1'):GetEnglish("Hexenmeister") |
| 00:17.54 | cladhaire | ckknight: *nod* just wanted to check |
| 00:18.01 | cladhaire | those libraries will be able to be AceLibraried' pretty soon |
| 00:18.05 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:18.15 | ckknight | I'm willing to do it once you give the goahead |
| 00:18.15 | cladhaire | but thats why i want solid testing |
| 00:18.24 | cladhaire | i dont wnat you spreading something out to the entire world =) |
| 00:18.27 | cladhaire | its a small amount of code |
| 00:18.30 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:18.31 | cladhaire | but the testing has to be 100% solid. |
| 00:18.35 | cladhaire | or you'l break the whole world |
| 00:18.44 | ckknight | I did that once before |
| 00:18.47 | ckknight | everything tasted blue for a while |
| 00:18.58 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 00:18.58 | GenNMX|Thrae | ckknight: Sorry if I was pressuring you before by the way, I wasn't trying to say you're wrong somehow, I was just confused and curious. |
| 00:19.22 | ckknight | GenNMX|Thrae, it's a confusing situation, it's all good |
| 00:19.23 | kergoth | the soda shop here sells "Blue Cream" soda. i swear it really does taste blue. it doesnt taste like raspberry like you'd expect |
| 00:20.14 | ckknight | gotta go to dinner, cya all later |
| 00:21.26 | Codayus | Sounds tasty. |
| 00:21.30 | Codayus | Red cream soda is. |
| 00:22.18 | Tem | blue* |
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| 00:22.45 | Amadeo- | I was worried that there were authentication problems |
| 00:22.46 | cladhaire | kergoth: Did you get my PMs? |
| 00:22.50 | Codayus | When I was living in NZ they tried selling blue milk for a while. I loved it, but apparently nobody else did. Got withdrawn from market pretty fast. :-( But it also tasted pretty...um... "blue". Not like any actual fruit. |
| 00:22.52 | GenNMX|Thrae | Can this "stub" idea of Iriel's be used on non-stub'd objects? |
| 00:22.58 | Tem | WTB 1x[Project name for a Main Tank Frame] |
| 00:22.58 | kergoth | cladhaire: yeah i got it, i'll poke around later |
| 00:23.00 | kergoth | GenNMX|Thrae: what? |
| 00:23.01 | cladhaire | k k =) |
| 00:23.05 | Tem | Amadeo-: yeah same issues here |
| 00:23.06 | cladhaire | GenNMX|Thrae: Not sure what you mean |
| 00:23.10 | Amadeo- | :( |
| 00:23.14 | cladhaire | its just a system to provide version management. |
| 00:23.20 | Amadeo- | Tem: Want to cuddle? |
| 00:23.29 | Amadeo- | I need to pass the time |
| 00:23.35 | cladhaire | minor versions of the same major version get replaced.. major versions are allowed to co-exist. |
| 00:23.44 | GenNMX|Thrae | Meaning, an object that instantiated somewhere else without using stubs. |
| 00:23.53 | GenNMX|Thrae | s/that/that is/. |
| 00:23.56 | cladhaire | GenNMX|Thrae: As long as it has the API required. |
| 00:23.58 | Amadeo- | haha |
| 00:24.03 | cladhaire | LibActivate() GetVersion(), etc. |
| 00:24.04 | Amadeo- | Don't worry, it'll be a manly cuddle |
| 00:24.07 | cladhaire | then it can register. |
| 00:24.38 | Amadeo- | hahah |
| 00:25.07 | GenNMX|Thrae | Ah, OK. What I liked about ace:RegisterFunctions's "crappy embedded method" is that I could embedd updated code for external methods. |
| 00:25.29 | cladhaire | they essentially serve different purposes |
| 00:26.26 | GenNMX|Thrae | Right, but I'm talking just Ace Stable. |
| 00:27.12 | cladhaire | well there's Ace 1.X branch, and the new Ace 2.0 |
| 00:27.19 | Tain | Ace needs a jingle. |
| 00:27.22 | Tain | With music. |
| 00:27.24 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:27.41 | Tain | Ooooh wait it just hit me. |
| 00:27.53 | Tain | Do you remember the Flash Gordan movie from I think the early 80s? |
| 00:27.59 | GenNMX|Thrae | It seems like, to my feeble OO mind, ace:RegisterFunctions is a precursor to AceLibrary. |
| 00:28.12 | Tain | Queen did the soundtrack. |
| 00:28.21 | Tain | And there was the song for Flash. |
| 00:28.27 | cladhaire | GenNMX|Thrae: Aye.. AceLibrary is a more sophisticated version, in some ways |
| 00:28.32 | Tain | Flash! Aaaaahaaaaah! He's gonna save the universe! |
| 00:28.55 | GenNMX|Thrae | cladhaire: Why Ace 2.0? Is it expected to have poor backwards compatibility? |
| 00:29.04 | cladhaire | Yeah |
| 00:29.06 | cladhaire | well |
| 00:29.10 | cladhaire | its just so drastically different. |
| 00:29.15 | cladhaire | it can't be 1.X |
| 00:30.01 | GenNMX|Thrae | Why not use Ace 2.0's amazing embedding power to embedd Ace 1.x if needed? :D |
| 00:30.35 | Tain | I think that would cause a rupture in the Ace/Time continuum. |
| 00:30.54 | cladhaire | haha |
| 00:31.02 | Amadeo- | Whoa |
| 00:31.04 | Amadeo- | Continuum |
| 00:31.09 | cladhaire | because in Ace 2.0.. the "Ace" object doesn't even exist =) |
| 00:31.09 | Amadeo- | isn't that the name of Subspace now? |
| 00:31.09 | cladhaire | for one |
| 00:32.02 | GenNMX|Thrae | cladhaire: Will you be able to have Ace 1.x and Ace 2.x alongside each other as separate addons? |
| 00:32.10 | cladhaire | yes |
| 00:32.19 | cladhaire | Ace 2.0 isn't an addon actually =) |
| 00:32.44 | Tain | It's a dessert topping. |
| 00:32.51 | kergoth | mm, i want dessert |
| 00:33.01 | GenNMX|Thrae | Ahhh, Ace 2.0 is a way of embedding all of Ace inside of each Ace addon using its awesome embedding powers? |
| 00:33.08 | Tain | Me too, and I just remembered I have Cherry Garcia in the freezer. |
| 00:33.25 | cladhaire | GenNMX|Thrae: If your addon uses AceHooks and AceEvents, you include those files, put them in your .toc.. they magically work and then you can inherit frm them |
| 00:33.42 | Tain | It's really a new paradigm for Ace. |
| 00:34.00 | cladhaire | And then AceLibrary keeps them all in line. |
| 00:34.14 | cladhaire | when AceOO is introduced, you're able to create "Object" from the classes defined |
| 00:34.17 | cladhaire | etc. |
| 00:34.19 | cladhaire | lots of crazy magic |
| 00:34.20 | GenNMX|Thrae | Gotcha, finally removing the need for separate addon depdencies. |
| 00:34.26 | Amadeo- | I like magic |
| 00:34.45 | Tain | I like magic too. As long as David Blaine isn't a dependancy. |
| 00:34.56 | cladhaire | Douchebag can't hold his breath |
| 00:35.06 | Tain | He's a quitter. |
| 00:35.10 | cladhaire | imo |
| 00:35.11 | Tain | He should have stuck it out. |
| 00:35.20 | Amadeo- | hahahaha |
| 00:39.20 | Thiana | One question... Does having all these embeded libraries (ie, all of ace 2.0 eventually) slow down loading times at all? |
| 00:39.53 | cladhaire | No |
| 00:40.00 | cladhaire | each of them has conditional code |
| 00:40.07 | Amadeo- | What happens if you have 10 addons that all use the same libraries? |
| 00:40.09 | cladhaire | its never executed at all if the library already exists. |
| 00:40.16 | Amadeo- | ! |
| 00:40.21 | Thiana | But wow still has to parse the entire file before executing the conditional doesnt it? |
| 00:40.31 | cladhaire | Ys, but its not executed. |
| 00:41.11 | Amadeo- | cladhaire: I'm still anxiously awaiting WD2+Clique :) |
| 00:41.22 | cladhaire | Yeah Yeah |
| 00:41.25 | cladhaire | don't hold your breath |
| 00:41.41 | Thiana | I'm curious how this is going to impact loading times because right now we just have a few libraries which are a few hundred lines each. Ace/etc is going to expand that to thousands probably, and that will be parsed for every addon ... |
| 00:41.41 | cladhaire | seriously, I'm working on all my projects.. but its very tough irl right now |
| 00:41.44 | Amadeo- | can't...breathe...David...help...me... |
| 00:41.55 | cladhaire | Thiana: They won't be parsed. |
| 00:41.57 | cladhaire | that's what I'm saying |
| 00:42.02 | cladhaire | you'd have to understand how lua loads files and chunks. |
| 00:42.50 | Thiana | Doesnt lua have to build the parse tree before deciding what it can safely skip though? Thats still parsing the entire file. |
| 00:42.51 | kergoth | wow reading in the files and executing the chunks isnt statistically significant if they return immediately. |
| 00:42.57 | Amadeo- | cladhaire: I understand, it's really no problem, I'm just anxious because your stuff is great :) |
| 00:43.09 | kergoth | yes, but it -isnt statistically significant- |
| 00:43.12 | cladhaire | Thiana: No, the lua fiels are compiled and loaded in as function that are executed. |
| 00:43.17 | Thiana | k |
| 00:43.18 | cladhaire | the functions return immediately if they arne't new. |
| 00:43.36 | cladhaire | Load time comes from what's being DONE within the file |
| 00:43.52 | cladhaire | You'll never actually experience LUA overhead. |
| 00:43.56 | cladhaire | anything comes from the author code =) |
| 00:43.57 | kergoth | well, to be fair, it still has to run its parser over the entire file and compile it all into the vm instructions to come up with the binary chunk, but again, all of that is statistically insignificant compared to any actual work |
| 00:44.22 | GenNMX|Thrae | I wonder why Gatherer and MapNotes have never been combined |
| 00:44.37 | kergoth | GenNMX|Thrae: they have. ct_mapmod does both |
| 00:44.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:44.40 | Amadeo- | You there, ckknight? |
| 00:44.43 | kergoth | though i dont use it anymore |
| 00:45.34 | GenNMX|Thrae | kergoth: Oh? I'm using Gatherer + MetaMap right now, and both are hogs. Does ct_mapmod have MapNotes backwards compatibility? |
| 00:46.27 | kergoth | hmm, dunno |
| 00:46.28 | cladhaire | I need a non CT, non gatherer, non mapnotes mapnotes=) |
| 00:46.35 | kergoth | also, non-metamap |
| 00:47.14 | GenNMX|Thrae | Haha, yea. MetaMap and Gatherer are both in dire need of Ace'ing. |
| 00:47.31 | kergoth | i dont want metamap, really, i just want a slim version of alphamap |
| 00:47.42 | Amadeo- | You want MetaMap, and you know it! |
| 00:47.51 | Tain | I want MiniMetaMap |
| 00:47.54 | Cairenn | I'm actually considering trying MetaMap |
| 00:48.14 | cladhaire | whats MetaMap, anyone have a link? |
| 00:48.16 | cladhaire | ~watchdog |
| 00:48.17 | purl | A software watchdog. URL: http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/daemons/watchdog/ |
| 00:48.23 | cladhaire | ooh.. <3 |
| 00:48.36 | Cairenn | cladhaire: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4788 |
| 00:48.57 | kergoth | heh, afaik 2.6 kernels dont need a daemon to do the usual stuff like rebooting on a system hang |
| 00:49.04 | Amadeo- | MetaMap is a big addon! |
| 00:49.07 | GenNMX|Thrae | I like MetaMap because it's backwards compatible with MapNotes. That's cool. |
| 00:49.14 | Tain | It just takes over too much. |
| 00:49.18 | cladhaire | oh wow.. ok. |
| 00:49.23 | cladhaire | lots of stuff there |
| 00:49.36 | Tain | I fear what I don't understand. :( |
| 00:49.45 | Amadeo- | Don't be afraid of me |
| 00:49.53 | kergoth | it tries to do far far too much indeed. its a map, damnit. what the hell is wowkb doing in there |
| 00:50.08 | kergoth | its like solcolorchatnicks fucking coloring my party and raid pins on the map |
| 00:50.10 | kergoth | just not its business! |
| 00:50.14 | kergoth | </rant> |
| 00:50.29 | GenNMX|Thrae | wowkb allows it to collect additional information ;) |
| 00:51.04 | kergoth | so it can succeed in its plan for world domination, no doubt |
| 00:51.07 | Tain | On an unrelated yet still mappy note, this is really fun. http://www.sasi.group.shef.ac.uk/worldmapper/ |
| 00:51.09 | Tain | "Worldmapper is a collection of world maps, where territories are re-sized on each map according to the subject of interest." |
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| 00:53.25 | GenNMX|Thrae | By the way, is it normal to be unable to turn using the mouse while you have the map frame open? |
| 00:56.37 | Gngsk | turn on 'action map mode' |
| 00:56.40 | Gngsk | if you're using metamap |
| 00:57.24 | GenNMX|Thrae | Ah, gotcha. I honestly couldn't remember if it had always been that case, it's been a while since I last actually played WoW the game :D |
| 00:57.45 | Gngsk | WoW the job? |
| 00:58.02 | GenNMX|Thrae | WoW's Lua Engine the game ;) |
| 00:58.38 | Gngsk | LocationFU - Show minimap bar |
| 00:58.40 | Gngsk | what's that do? |
| 00:59.24 | Amadeo- | What's with the buggy ass chat windows? That pisses me off! |
| 00:59.38 | Gngsk | it's a known bug |
| 00:59.38 | Amadeo- | The transparency resets, the tabs disappear, the locking doesn't stay |
| 01:00.22 | Gngsk | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-tech-support&t=876178&p=1&tmp=1#post876178 |
| 01:00.50 | Amadeo- | They need to hotfix it or something :P |
| 01:00.53 | Amadeo- | drives me nuts |
| 01:00.59 | Amadeo- | and I don't need to be any more crazy than I already am |
| 01:02.11 | Amadeo- | Sometimes, I just talk to myself, for fun |
| 01:02.18 | Amadeo- | Wheeeee |
| 01:02.54 | Amadeo- | That's two! |
| 01:02.58 | Amadeo- | I'm in the mood for popcorn though |
| 01:05.26 | Amadeo- | Tekcub's hiding out, because he knows I'm in the mood to pester |
| 01:05.27 | cladhaire | Anyone else watching Deal or No Deal? |
| 01:07.15 | Amadeo- | nope |
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| 02:13.12 | Tekcub | no, went to see RV :P |
| 02:13.40 | cladhaire | RV? |
| 02:13.52 | Tain | Robin Williams isn't it? |
| 02:13.57 | Tekcub | yarr |
| 02:14.04 | Tekcub | was bad, but good |
| 02:31.46 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r1851 10SpecialEventsEmbed/Aura/SEEmbedAura.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed - Tweaking asserts, again... |
| 02:47.48 | Tem | Cairenn: YOU AROUND? |
| 02:47.50 | Tem | >< |
| 02:47.56 | Cairenn | yup |
| 02:47.56 | Tem | caps lock ftl |
| 02:48.07 | Cairenn | *shrug* |
| 02:48.44 | Wobin_ | We use our inside voice in here =) |
| 02:54.33 | Tekcub | huzzah, I can't log in |
| 02:54.38 | *** part/#wowace Amadeo- (i=zenon@c-69-140-101-215.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 02:55.22 | ckknight | hey all, I'm back |
| 02:55.40 | Cairenn | wb ckknight |
| 02:55.47 | Cairenn | folks been wondering where you've been hiding |
| 02:56.25 | ckknight | I went to a tapas restaurant |
| 02:56.30 | ckknight | reasonable |
| 02:56.43 | Wobin_ | price or quality? |
| 02:56.47 | ckknight | quality |
| 02:56.51 | ckknight | not sure the price |
| 02:56.53 | Wobin_ | I haven't had good tapas in quite some time |
| 02:56.55 | ckknight | guessing around 150 |
| 02:57.05 | ckknight | I'm in Chicago |
| 02:57.07 | ckknight | where are you at? |
| 02:57.24 | Tekcub | hey ckk, did those changes you make fix mail? I can't log in... |
| 02:57.42 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:57.46 | Tekcub | good |
| 02:57.48 | Wobin_ | ckknight: Beijing =) |
| 02:57.51 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 02:57.53 | ckknight | yea, that'd do it |
| 02:57.58 | Wobin_ | So my lack of good tapas is probably evident =) |
| 02:58.19 | ckknight | I haven't had tapas before I came to Chicago |
| 02:58.30 | Tem | oh ffs |
| 02:58.39 | Tem | 10 second lag spike on the pull before ebonroc |
| 02:58.44 | Wobin_ | Ow |
| 02:58.59 | Tem | and 2 stunners |
| 02:59.21 | Wobin_ | I hate the whole 'Oh look... I'm running into place.... and so is everyone else... hey... why is everyone running into the wall and not stopping... " |
| 02:59.38 | Wobin_ | **disconnected from server** |
| 02:59.44 | Wobin_ | 'Arse' |
| 03:02.29 | ckknight | odd |
| 03:02.32 | ckknight | you misspelled ass |
| 03:02.57 | Tain | haha I absolutely love this, cook and eat at the same table. http://www.cook-n-dine-usa.com/how.html |
| 03:04.09 | Wobin_ | ckknight: I aint talking about no donkey =) |
| 03:04.16 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:04.20 | ckknight | hehe |
| 03:05.10 | Wobin_ | bah, TGFWOC does not want me reading about capitalist cooking and dining =P |
| 03:06.43 | Tain | haha |
| 03:09.39 | Tem | *sigh* |
| 03:09.46 | Tem | this pull sucks |
| 03:10.21 | Tain | haha Anti-drug campaign using Apple's iPod black and white ad design. http://www.scaryideas.com/Adverts/drugs_music.html |
| 03:10.35 | Tain | Didn't show correct in firefox for me, had to use IE. But funny. |
| 03:12.48 | Tekcub | fucking login servers |
| 03:14.15 | ckknight | worked in Opera |
| 03:14.29 | Wobin_ | seems to show fine in Bon Echo |
| 03:15.41 | Wobin_ | (ie FF2) |
| 03:16.25 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:16.40 | Tain | Yeah why do you think I'm looking at weird things on the web. :( |
| 03:16.45 | kergoth | :( |
| 03:16.58 | kergoth | i didnt even feel like playing, just wanted to check my auctions and go read a book |
| 03:17.02 | kergoth | think i'll give up on the former. bbl |
| 03:18.38 | ckknight | Unable to Connect |
| 03:18.39 | ckknight | still |
| 03:21.52 | Tem | I *hate* nature vulnerable mobs |
| 03:22.12 | Wobin_ | because of your lack of nature damage? |
| 03:23.52 | Tem | it's annoying |
| 03:23.56 | Tem | they take forever to kill |
| 03:24.03 | Tem | we've got all of 2 druids in the raid |
| 03:24.21 | Wobin_ | WrathWrathWrathWrath |
| 03:24.31 | Wobin_ | Moonfire counts as Arcane, doesn't it? |
| 03:24.37 | Tekcub | yes |
| 03:24.43 | Tem | moonfire and starfire are arcane |
| 03:24.44 | Tekcub | moon and star are arcane |
| 03:25.02 | Tekcub | wrath and buggies are nature |
| 03:28.51 | Tain | It wouldn't be so bad if not for the notice saying the authentication issues were resolved and players are able to log in. |
| 03:33.45 | Kaelten | ckknight, hey you got a min? |
| 03:33.50 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:34.23 | Kaelten | I'm trying to use tablet to give me quick and easy SetHint functionality |
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| 03:34.55 | ckknight | okay |
| 03:34.57 | ckknight | hey [Cu]NeT |
| 03:35.04 | Kaelten | and just looking through fubar, and your documentation and I can't figure out how to do it |
| 03:35.19 | ckknight | okay, this is for a plugin, yes? |
| 03:35.25 | Kaelten | no |
| 03:35.27 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 03:35.28 | Kaelten | standalone |
| 03:35.31 | ckknight | alright |
| 03:35.55 | Kaelten | I got tablet = TabletLib:GetInstance("1.0") |
| 03:35.56 | ckknight | tablet:Register(frame, 'children', function() tablet:SetHint("Click for peanuts") end) |
| 03:36.37 | Kaelten | ok, so I have to do a register each time? |
| 03:36.53 | Kaelten | what does children mean? |
| 03:37.21 | ckknight | you register once |
| 03:37.37 | ckknight | it uses a fake table format |
| 03:37.46 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 03:37.55 | ckknight | so it's really supposed to emulate { children = function() ... end } |
| 03:38.04 | Kaelten | ah |
| 03:38.05 | ckknight | there are other arguments you can provide as well |
| 03:38.11 | ckknight | like point, relativePoint |
| 03:38.43 | ckknight | basically, it just allows you to set arbitrary arguments without making a table |
| 03:39.08 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 03:39.09 | Kaelten | k |
| 03:39.14 | Kaelten | lets see if this works |
| 03:39.36 | [Cu]NeT | ckknigh hi |
| 03:39.43 | [Cu]NeT | silly connection reseting |
| 03:39.59 | Kaelten | ... Login Server Down |
| 03:40.01 | Kaelten | ... |
| 03:45.07 | pagefault | your money at work |
| 03:52.08 | Gngsk | Is there an easy way to manually start the timer of a BigWigs mod? |
| 03:57.24 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 03:57.33 | Wobin_ | do we want tif or tga images? |
| 03:57.44 | Wobin_ | for texture usage |
| 03:58.23 | Tekcub | tigga or blips for images |
| 03:58.37 | Tekcub | and no gung |
| 03:58.37 | Wobin_ | ta |
| 03:58.53 | Tekcub | gungskunk |
| 03:59.53 | Wobin_ | I mentally equate it to the sound of a grunt |
| 04:00.08 | Wobin_ | But it may mean something in a differnent language I'm unaware of =) |
| 04:00.18 | Tekcub | erf is more of a grunt to me |
| 04:00.30 | Tekcub | I'll just call him gunklkunk |
| 04:00.34 | Tekcub | *skunk |
| 04:01.05 | Gngsk | nuts |
| 04:01.22 | Gngsk | I wanted to start the twin emps teleport timer, as a rogue I'm never in range to catch the event |
| 04:01.31 | Gngsk | guess I'll have to wait for channel sync |
| 04:20.24 | Tem | Bam |
| 04:20.27 | Tem | Ebonroc |
| 04:20.45 | Wobin_ | Is that you bamming Ebonroc, or Ebonroc bamming you? |
| 04:20.47 | Tem | First kill, second pull ever |
| 04:21.00 | Tem | Flamegor, you're next |
| 04:21.02 | Wobin_ | hehe grats! |
| 04:21.25 | Tem | oh jesus more fucking melee gear |
| 04:21.35 | Tem | we get more plate... |
| 04:21.57 | Wobin_ | hurrah for authentication =P |
| 04:22.02 | Gngsk | what class do you play tem? |
| 04:22.16 | Tain | Not plate, obviously. ;) |
| 04:22.21 | Gngsk | hehe |
| 04:22.25 | Tem | Mage |
| 04:22.46 | Gngsk | ahh, I recall you discussing the mage review earlier |
| 04:25.09 | Tem | (btw, we were having *severe* connectivity issues the whole fight) |
| 04:36.26 | Tain | Most people have been unable to log in at all for the last couple of hours. |
| 04:40.56 | FryGuy | i was thinking about a way to sync up time between multiple people |
| 04:41.16 | FryGuy | for the bossmods thing (and syncing timers and stuff since chat lag is pretty noticable sometimes) |
| 04:42.23 | FryGuy | where you'd store the local time for the last x combat events and then send a timer that says something like "shadolin's greater heal for 859 @ 8:23:12.1234" and everyone would be able to reference that timer |
| 04:42.34 | FryGuy | does anyone think that's feasable and/or useful? |
| 04:43.32 | FryGuy | then when you relay combat events for bossmods (EBONROC_WING_BUFFET_START @ 8:24:29.2423) you can filter out things so they don't double spam |
| 04:45.42 | Cairenn|sleep | clad|Sleep: when you see this, you might want to let Sat know that his mods are still up at Swerve |
| 04:52.53 | Tem | Swerve? |
| 04:53.06 | Tem | that the people I sent a CnD to? |
| 05:04.38 | Tem | oh bam |
| 05:04.45 | Tem | and theres our first flamegor kill |
| 05:04.46 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1852 10FuBar-compat-1.0/ (. FuBar-compat-1.0.toc Lib/FuBar-compat-1.0.lua README.txt): FuBar-compat-1.0 - updated svn:externals and TOC and README.txt |
| 05:04.53 | Tem | oh balls |
| 05:04.58 | Tem | more fucking wrath |
| 05:05.05 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1853 10FuBarPlugin-1.2/ (. FuBarPlugin-1.2.toc README.txt): FuBarPlugin-1.2 - updated svn:externals, TOC, and README.txt |
| 05:05.20 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1854 10FuBar/FuBar.toc: FuBar - updated TOC. |
| 05:05.32 | ckknight | wrath? |
| 05:05.40 | ckknight | anyone feel like testing FuBar? |
| 05:06.38 | Tem | warrior set |
| 05:06.45 | Tem | we get more warrior gear than anything else |
| 05:11.19 | Tem | So, in the last 2 days, we've gotten our first kill on all 3 drakes |
| 05:11.20 | Kaelten | cknight that doesn't work |
| 05:11.30 | Tem | without doing more than 2 pulls on each |
| 05:11.45 | Tem | the trash gave us more trouble :) |
| 05:12.20 | Kaelten | ckknight, I get these two errors when I try that code you suggested |
| 05:12.21 | Kaelten | TabletLib.lua:2115: attempt to index a nil value |
| 05:12.21 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:12.21 | Kaelten | TabletLib.lua:2065: attempt to index local `detachedData' (a nil value) |
| 05:12.31 | ckknight | oh |
| 05:12.36 | ckknight | need to add checks |
| 05:12.46 | Kaelten | ? |
| 05:12.51 | ckknight | but your problem is you need to supply either a data or a detachedData arg |
| 05:13.10 | Kaelten | example? |
| 05:13.25 | ckknight | tablet:Register(frame, 'children', function() ... end, 'data', {}) |
| 05:13.43 | ckknight | btw, you're using an old version of TabletLib |
| 05:14.17 | Kaelten | ? |
| 05:15.07 | ckknight | the line didn't exist |
| 05:15.14 | ckknight | tablets have to hold data |
| 05:15.15 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1855 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - added a check for detachedData. |
| 05:15.21 | ckknight | about their color, transparency, position, etc. |
| 05:15.30 | ckknight | can be a regular table or an SV table |
| 05:17.32 | [Cu]NeT | Tem they nerfed most of these mobs tho :> |
| 05:17.49 | [Cu]NeT | the first version of ebonroc and firemaw was..:P |
| 05:17.51 | Kaelten | [00:17-487] ...ace\KC_EnhancedTrades\TabletLib\TabletLib.lua:1448: attempt to index local `detachedData' (a nil value) |
| 05:17.51 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.03 | Kaelten | updated to the newest version off of the svn |
| 05:19.37 | Kaelten | ckknight, how do change what Title Says? |
| 05:19.48 | ckknight | :SetTitle |
| 05:19.54 | ckknight | you do realize I have API docs |
| 05:20.03 | Kaelten | yes, but no examples of working aps |
| 05:20.25 | ckknight | the API should be sufficient |
| 05:20.26 | Kaelten | and fubar is fairly convoluted in some ways |
| 05:20.36 | ckknight | it's not tied to FuBar |
| 05:20.45 | Kaelten | I know, but its an example of usage |
| 05:20.50 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:21.22 | Kaelten | I would learn more by seeing a few simple examples than by the api file |
| 05:21.34 | Kaelten | the api file will help me after I understand how to make it work some |
| 05:22.31 | ckknight | pastebin the code you have now |
| 05:23.47 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1856 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - added more data checks. |
| 05:25.53 | Kaelten | [00:25-491] ...ace\KC_EnhancedTrades\TabletLib\TabletLib.lua:2125: attempt to index a nil value |
| 05:25.53 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.55 | Kaelten | new bug |
| 05:26.47 | Kaelten | http://ace.pastebin.com/720048 |
| 05:26.53 | Kaelten | thats the code that gets called on mouse over |
| 05:27.08 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1857 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - added more data checks. |
| 05:27.11 | Kaelten | now one problem I'm having is that its not showing the tooltip on the first massover |
| 05:27.47 | Tem|Sleep | night guys |
| 05:27.53 | Kaelten | night tem |
| 05:27.55 | Kaelten | ckknight, [00:27-492] KC_EnhancedTrades\TabletLib\TabletLib.lua:1564: unexpected symbol near `)' |
| 05:27.55 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:28.30 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1858 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed typo. |
| 05:29.00 | ckknight | hehe |
| 05:29.59 | Kaelten | ok, no more bugs |
| 05:30.23 | Kaelten | but a problem with it not showing the mouseover on the first mouseover |
| 05:31.50 | Kaelten | ckknight, any idea? |
| 05:32.02 | ckknight | pastebin |
| 05:32.19 | Kaelten | I did |
| 05:32.33 | ckknight | ah |
| 05:33.02 | Kaelten | that code gets run on mouseover |
| 05:33.27 | ckknight | oh |
| 05:33.29 | ckknight | okay |
| 05:33.34 | ckknight | easy fix :-) |
| 05:33.35 | Kaelten | should it run some other time? |
| 05:33.41 | ckknight | no |
| 05:33.55 | ckknight | is there any way to check if a mouse is currently over a frame? |
| 05:34.12 | Kaelten | GetMouseFocus or something like that |
| 05:34.51 | Kaelten | GetMouseFocus() |
| 05:34.58 | ckknight | nice |
| 05:34.59 | Kaelten | returns a pointer to whatever frame the mouse is over |
| 05:35.03 | Tem|Sleep | that only works if it's mouse enabled |
| 05:35.27 | Tem|Sleep | if you need it to work for a frame that isn't, then you need to use MouseIsOver |
| 05:35.31 | Wobin_ | Otherwise you'll have to do what Iriel did for dtframestack |
| 05:35.36 | Tem|Sleep | which is defined in UIParent.lua |
| 05:36.26 | Tem|Sleep | it's basically some checks with frame:GetWidth GetHight GetTop GetLeft and GetCursorPosition |
| 05:36.36 | Tem|Sleep | then you probably need to compensate for scale and stuff |
| 05:37.04 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1859 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - opens tooltip on register if mouse is over frame. |
| 05:37.10 | Gngsk | when I talk in my sleep, I usually babble nonsense |
| 05:37.22 | ckknight | MouseIsOver? |
| 05:37.23 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:37.51 | Kaelten | well if its looking for a mouseover then it seems like mouse would have to be enabled anyway? |
| 05:38.15 | ckknight | no |
| 05:38.21 | ckknight | OnEnter isn't mouse enabled, afaik |
| 05:38.23 | ckknight | or is it? |
| 05:39.11 | ckknight | yea, it would be |
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| 05:40.57 | Kaelten | is their a tablet:Show(parent)? |
| 05:42.47 | ckknight | Open |
| 05:42.59 | ckknight | Register hooks the OnEnter/OnLeave stuff, though |
| 05:43.22 | ckknight | unless you set dontHook to true |
| 05:44.22 | ckknight | just check if not IsRegistered(parent) then do your registering |
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| 05:47.15 | ckknight | some hairdresser stole all my hair |
| 05:47.18 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 05:47.27 | ckknight | I used to have nice, luscious hair |
| 05:47.31 | ckknight | now it's short |
| 05:47.35 | ckknight | I didn't want it this short |
| 05:48.10 | Kaelten | hmm. |
| 05:48.27 | Kaelten | so maybe I should just register the hints on show and then leave the onenter empty |
| 05:49.23 | ckknight | nah |
| 05:49.27 | ckknight | well, you could |
| 05:49.30 | ckknight | don't have to, though |
| 05:49.35 | ckknight | I tend to do things _right_ as you need em |
| 05:49.45 | ckknight | in FuBar, I register OnEnter |
| 05:51.58 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 05:56.25 | ckknight | err |
| 05:56.27 | ckknight | on OnEnter |
| 05:56.33 | ckknight | and only register once |
| 06:11.45 | Kaelten | I've changed it so it registers when that window shows and thats it |
| 06:11.48 | Kaelten | works fine now |
| 06:13.59 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:15.27 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1860 10FuBarPlugin-1.2/ (API.html Lib/FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua): |
| 06:15.27 | CIA-17 | FuBarPlugin-1.2 - |
| 06:15.27 | CIA-17 | API Change: |
| 06:15.27 | CIA-17 | added CreatePluginChildFrame("frameType" [, "name"] [, "parent"]) |
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| 06:18.39 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1861 10FuBar_MicroMenuFu/MicroMenuFu.lua: FuBar_MicroMenuFu - updated for CreatePluginChildFrame |
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| 06:21.06 | Kaelten | night guys |
| 06:21.18 | ckknight | cya |
| 06:34.14 | Tekcub | hey ckk, ideatime |
| 06:34.30 | Tekcub | let us set text on the minimap button :) |
| 06:34.41 | Tekcub | so I can tack a "4" on the mail icon |
| 06:35.03 | Tekcub | but make it different from the normal bar text, so they can be set differently |
| 06:35.30 | Tekcub | since the MM one would need to be short |
| 06:35.54 | ckknight | you can always check self:IsMinimapAttached() |
| 06:36.18 | ckknight | wonder if I documented that... |
| 06:36.32 | Tekcub | that could work, but there's currently no text in MM mode right? |
| 06:36.44 | Tekcub | why not just make self:SetText take two args? |
| 06:36.51 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:36.55 | ckknight | that could work |
| 06:36.58 | Tekcub | if the second is never passed, don't show text on the minimap |
| 06:37.11 | ckknight | I could have the second just be a boolean |
| 06:37.24 | ckknight | SetText("text", onMinimap) |
| 06:37.30 | ckknight | err |
| 06:37.35 | ckknight | SetText("text" [, onMinimap]) |
| 06:37.37 | Amadeo- | Look who it is! :D |
| 06:37.46 | ckknight | ~shake |
| 06:37.50 | ckknight | aw |
| 06:38.05 | ckknight | purl, shake is <reply>shakes his booty all around town |
| 06:38.06 | purl | ckknight: okay |
| 06:38.08 | Tekcub | so what, I'd call settext twice, one for the MM and one for the main? |
| 06:38.15 | Tekcub | ~Dr. Tran |
| 06:38.17 | purl | I'ma not a macodoty! |
| 06:38.20 | ckknight | no, you'd check IsMinimapAttached() |
| 06:38.36 | ckknight | follow a different logic path |
| 06:38.37 | Tekcub | hrm... |
| 06:38.51 | Tekcub | so SetText will get triggered when swapping to MM mode |
| 06:38.53 | ckknight | cause sometimes you want to show more data on the panel |
| 06:38.57 | ckknight | UpdateText |
| 06:39.01 | ckknight | I guess... |
| 06:39.07 | Tekcub | yea that I means |
| 06:39.17 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 06:39.19 | Tekcub | *shrug* either route works :) |
| 06:39.28 | Tekcub | I like just passing two strings myself |
| 06:39.29 | ckknight | would it be better to do SetText("normal", "minimap")? |
| 06:39.42 | Tekcub | then you don't have to update, you'd already have the text |
| 06:39.54 | ckknight | but updating'd be pretty quick... |
| 06:40.03 | Tekcub | yea it would be |
| 06:40.06 | ckknight | and you don't have to follow an unneeded logic path |
| 06:40.15 | Tekcub | hum, either route works I guess |
| 06:40.34 | ckknight | I think I'll just have a SetMinimapText("text") method |
| 06:41.01 | Tekcub | oh and while I remember, since the dewdrop/tablet swap menus and tooltip stopped correcting themselves for me dual-mon center boundry |
| 06:41.07 | Tekcub | that works |
| 06:41.10 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 06:41.13 | ckknight | should fix that |
| 06:41.42 | Tekcub | I mean, for me the info's already there when I do settext, I'd just need to generet a second smaller string |
| 06:41.47 | ckknight | it's in the actual TabletLib and DewdropLib code |
| 06:42.01 | ckknight | I'll be adding another method |
| 06:42.17 | Tekcub | and you need a primer on how to use that FUBAR_DEFAULTS, or point me to it if it exists |
| 06:42.49 | Tekcub | I attached my MailFu to the minimap, it kicks ass now :) |
| 06:42.50 | ckknight | there's no primer, it's a cheap hack |
| 06:43.05 | Amadeo- | new MailFu on SVN? |
| 06:43.13 | Tekcub | oh yea, one sex |
| 06:43.16 | Amadeo- | :D |
| 06:43.42 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r1862 10FuBar_MailFu/Core.lua: FuBar_MailFu - More tweaks, should be fully 1.2 compatible now. |
| 06:43.51 | Amadeo- | awesome |
| 06:43.57 | Amadeo- | new MountMe on SVN? |
| 06:44.10 | Amadeo- | (I figured it worked the first time) |
| 06:44.12 | Amadeo- | ;) |
| 06:44.15 | Tekcub | well ckk, I thought I set it up but plugins still go whereever the fuck they feel like it |
| 06:44.32 | Tekcub | I assumed the order I put them in the table would be the order they lay out on the bar? |
| 06:44.48 | Tekcub | hell, how do I reset everything's positions to default I guess |
| 06:45.30 | Tekcub | I already had the code done ama :P |
| 06:45.43 | Tekcub | and I'm about to go to bed, work thamara |
| 06:46.08 | Amadeo- | hehe ok, night Tek :) thanks for MailFu! |
| 06:53.48 | [MoonWolf] | ill wait a few versions before adopting the new fubar and fubarplugin |
| 06:56.41 | ckknight | good on you |
| 06:56.52 | ckknight | currently it'll rest in SVN for a while |
| 06:56.56 | ckknight | until bugs come up and such |
| 06:57.19 | Amadeo- | MetaMap is totally fubar now, and it makes me angry :P |
| 06:57.26 | Amadeo- | Error was popping up every 2 seconds in WSG |
| 06:57.27 | Amadeo- | argh |
| 06:57.29 | ckknight | down with Metamap. |
| 06:57.43 | Amadeo- | I need a replacement for it :( |
| 06:58.32 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1863 10FuBarPlugin-1.2/Lib/FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua: FuBarPlugin-1.2 - added an assert. |
| 06:58.48 | ckknight | Amadeo-, test that, it should get rid of the TabletLib assert error |
| 06:58.58 | Amadeo- | :D |
| 06:59.24 | ckknight | granted, it should throw another one, but I need to know what it says |
| 06:59.32 | Amadeo- | haha ok |
| 06:59.53 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1864 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - added dual-monitor support. |
| 07:06.00 | [MoonWolf] | it only took kaelten 2 hours to actually go to bed after he logged out here.... |
| 07:06.55 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1865 10TabletLib/ (API.html Lib/TabletLib.lua): TabletLib - added IsRegistered(parent) |
| 07:20.56 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1866 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - added dual-monitor support. |
| 07:24.02 | ckknight | for? |
| 07:24.10 | [MoonWolf] | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:24.45 | ckknight | oh, okay |
| 07:25.27 | ckknight | crap |
| 07:25.28 | ckknight | not working right |
| 07:26.24 | ckknight | lousy logic |
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| 07:27.43 | Elkano^wtf | ck: FuBar\FuBar-compat-1.0\FuBar-compat-1.0.lua:2016: attempt to call method `assert' (a nil value) |
| 07:29.45 | Elkano^wtf | and updating to the latest svn messed up the positions of my plugins |
| 07:33.56 | Elkano^wtf | Amadeo-, wrt Metamap: would AlphaMap + Atlas do? |
| 07:34.42 | pagefault | is it patch tomorrow? |
| 07:35.02 | Amadeo- | Elkano: Is it bigger or smaller overall? |
| 07:35.12 | [MoonWolf] | no patching |
| 07:35.16 | [MoonWolf] | there has not been a prt. |
| 07:35.21 | pagefault | ah |
| 07:35.37 | Elkano^wtf | well, I've never used MetaMap, so I can't tell ^^' |
| 07:35.48 | Amadeo- | :) |
| 07:36.46 | Industrial | morning |
| 07:37.24 | Amadeo- | morning Industrial |
| 07:37.44 | Amadeo- | Busy day for idChat, huh? |
| 07:37.59 | Amadeo- | ;) |
| 07:38.58 | Elkano^wtf | hiho id |
| 07:39.11 | Industrial | well i woke up at 6, left home at 7, arrived at work at 9, will work till 5:30, will be home again at 7, go kickboxing at 8, home again at 10-11 |
| 07:39.14 | Industrial | so i guess not |
| 07:39.43 | Industrial | oh wait i also have a social life! ... no i dont -_- |
| 07:40.19 | Amadeo- | You had a whole hour between 6 and 7! |
| 07:40.42 | Amadeo- | I knew you had lots of free time! |
| 07:40.56 | [MoonWolf] | that leaves you 3 hours to work on idchat |
| 07:40.59 | Industrial | No, i eat then |
| 07:41.04 | Amadeo- | haha |
| 07:41.05 | [MoonWolf] | oh |
| 07:41.08 | [MoonWolf] | damnit |
| 07:41.16 | Industrial | and between 6 and 7 i get up and stuff |
| 07:41.21 | Industrial | (takes a while) |
| 07:41.26 | [MoonWolf] | ah well. |
| 07:41.35 | [MoonWolf] | nobody goes to bed before 2 o clock |
| 07:41.39 | Industrial | so do it yerself ya muppet xD |
| 07:41.43 | Industrial | i do >_> |
| 07:41.48 | [MoonWolf] | damn you. |
| 07:41.55 | Amadeo- | I wanted to be asleep hours ago |
| 07:41.57 | Industrial | what? i hafta get up at 6 again |
| 07:41.59 | Amadeo- | but I'm getting sick, so it blows |
| 07:42.04 | [MoonWolf] | so do I |
| 07:42.11 | [MoonWolf] | and I went to bed at 2:14 today |
| 07:42.16 | Industrial | well uh |
| 07:42.19 | Industrial | poo |
| 07:42.22 | Industrial | :P |
| 07:42.37 | Amadeo- | Industrial: Do you have a computer at work? |
| 07:42.44 | Industrial | yes |
| 07:42.46 | Amadeo- | a-ha! |
| 07:42.46 | [MoonWolf] | hes a web developer |
| 07:42.52 | Industrial | ------^ |
| 07:42.54 | Amadeo- | hahah |
| 07:43.14 | Industrial | its my laptop from home |
| 07:43.17 | Industrial | with wow on it |
| 07:43.19 | Industrial | ;x |
| 07:43.24 | Amadeo- | I knew it! |
| 07:43.55 | Amadeo- | I better try to sleep anyway, guess you guys will find out if it worked if you see me back here any time soon :P |
| 07:44.00 | Amadeo- | Night :) |
| 07:44.36 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1867 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TouristLib - better logic for dual-monitors |
| 07:45.10 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1868 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - better logic for dual-monitors. |
| 07:45.19 | Elkano^wtf | btw: ck, TouristLib states Maraudon for 40-50, isn't that a bit to low? |
| 07:46.17 | ckknight | oh |
| 07:46.20 | Elkano^wtf | where did you take the level ranges from when writing the lib? |
| 07:46.21 | ckknight | cause you're foreign |
| 07:46.31 | ckknight | some other mod |
| 07:46.43 | ckknight | may or may not be correct |
| 07:46.53 | ckknight | there's also a difference between enUS and other locales, apparently |
| 07:47.03 | ckknight | for enUS, it's 45-55, for others it's 40-49 |
| 07:49.37 | Elkano^wtf | are these actual differences in game or only in the lib? |
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| 07:52.43 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1869 10FuBar-compat-1.0/Lib/FuBar-compat-1.0.lua: FuBar-compat-1.0 - updated dual-monitor support. |
| 07:53.33 | Elkano | btw: did you get my bugreport wrt FuBar-compat-1.0? |
| 07:59.02 | ckknight | the missing assert deal? |
| 07:59.17 | Elkano | yes |
| 07:59.54 | ckknight | yea, that's caused by an outdated FuBarPlugin-1.2 |
| 08:00.47 | Elkano | so do I haveto check that out, too or is it 'shiped' with fubar? |
| 08:01.00 | ckknight | it should be in the FuBar folder |
| 08:02.53 | Elkano | ok, I'll test with 1869 |
| 08:05.40 | Elkano | -> FuBar\FuBar-compat-1.0\FuBar-compat-1.0.lua:2002: attempt to call method `assert' (a nil value) |
| 08:06.15 | Elkano | so happens with latest FuBar, too |
| 08:08.13 | Elkano | well, I'll be off for lecture.. l8ers :) |
| 08:08.20 | ckknight | oh |
| 08:08.22 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:08.26 | ckknight | "my bad" |
| 08:08.32 | Elkano | :) |
| 08:10.17 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1870 10FuBar-compat-1.0/Lib/FuBar-compat-1.0.lua: FuBar-compat-1.0 - fixed asserts. |
| 08:18.22 | ckknight | I don't really use many 1.0 tooltips, hehe |
| 09:04.46 | Neronix | Morning |
| 09:06.26 | [MoonWolf] | morning nero |
| 09:07.58 | [MoonWolf] | hyperChipmunk, I took the libertly of splitting your bulkmail stuff off of the do we really need to ace eveything thread. |
| 09:12.51 | Industrial | Who used scite again? |
| 09:13.19 | Industrial | http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/6007/15ah1.png |
| 09:13.24 | Industrial | it looks awful! why? |
| 09:13.27 | Industrial | :S |
| 09:18.53 | ckknight | because you touch yourself at night |
| 09:19.27 | Neronix | No clue |
| 09:19.36 | Neronix | wait, might be a syntax error? |
| 09:20.02 | Neronix | in fact, might be an accidental block comment |
| 09:22.51 | [MoonWolf] | still |
| 09:22.55 | [MoonWolf] | bad looking coments |
| 09:26.14 | Industrial | ckknight: lol |
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| 10:08.53 | Elkano^wtf | ck, how to access a locked tabletlib frame? |
| 10:09.41 | Elkano^wtf | alt+right click seems not to work |
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| 10:20.45 | Elkano^grr | Neronix, are you there? |
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| 10:28.01 | Elkano^gna | I hate what's happening with my WLAN atm :/ |
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| 10:40.56 | Neronix | Elkano^gna: alt+right click |
| 10:41.11 | Neronix | wait, you said it didn't work >.< |
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| 10:41.26 | Neronix | hmm, I'll go test |
| 10:42.23 | Elkano | ok, it seems like you can only alt-reenable tabletlib when addline is called, so when your frame is updated |
| 10:43.56 | Neronix | Is it a bug on my side or ckknight's side? |
| 10:44.35 | Elkano | well, I would rather say it's a design flaw from tabletlib, so it's ckknight's side |
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| 10:47.13 | Elkano^grr | there is some code in tabletlib that also reacts on alt by SE event, but it seems not to do the same as the code in addline does. :/ |
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| 10:50.16 | Elkano^grr | Neronix, try the following: go to a city and relog so your nanostats tells you to 'go fight something'. then lock it and try to unlock |
| 10:50.32 | Elkano^grr | this should result in no menu showing even with alt down |
| 10:51.02 | Neronix | Elkano^grr: I did it as soon as I logged in |
| 10:51.04 | Neronix | Worked for me |
| 10:51.15 | Elkano^grr | hmm... strange... |
| 10:51.32 | Neronix | Wait, it seems to depend on where I right click |
| 10:52.29 | Neronix | Hmm, seems randomish O.o |
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| 11:07.49 | Neronix | See when making a FuBar plugin, is using AceDb mandatory? |
| 11:08.03 | [MoonWolf] | nope |
| 11:08.07 | [MoonWolf] | dont think so. |
| 11:08.40 | Neronix | ok, thanks |
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| 11:09.59 | Elkano | ckknight, when SpecialEvents is not present, tabletlib only reacts on alt when it updates, doesn't it? |
| 11:12.41 | CIA-17 | 03neronix * r1871 10FuBar_NanoStatsFu/ (14 files in 5 dirs): NanoStatsFu - Initial import |
| 11:13.08 | Neronix | shit, I think I fucked that up |
| 11:15.16 | CIA-17 | 03neronix * r1872 10FuBar_NanoStatsFu/: Whoops! |
| 11:15.58 | CIA-17 | 03neronix * r1873 10FuBar_NanoStatsFu/ (6 files): NanoStatsFu - Let's try that again... |
| 11:19.22 | CIA-17 | 03neronix * r1874 10FuBar_NanoStatsFu/: NanoStatsFu - Added externals and log template |
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| 11:37.20 | CIA-17 | 03icetrain * r1875 10oRA_MainTankFrames/ (oRA_MainTankFrames.lua oRA_MainTankFramesLocals.lua): |
| 11:37.20 | CIA-17 | oRA_MainTankFrames: |
| 11:37.20 | CIA-17 | Added slashcommand to enable/disable clickcast support. |
| 11:37.20 | CIA-17 | Added slashcommand to change what unit id is sent to clickcast addons. |
| 12:05.42 | CIA-17 | 03wobin * r1876 10SwitchBoard/SwitchBoard.lua: SwitchBoard - Hooked whispers to show a new window per person |
| 12:06.17 | [MoonWolf] | I wonder if icetrain knows that we can see everthing he does, in realtime. |
| 12:07.05 | Wobin_ | Icetrain? |
| 12:07.31 | Neronix | look up a few lines :P |
| 12:07.58 | Wobin_ | oh |
| 12:08.01 | Wobin_ | =P |
| 12:08.37 | Wobin_ | well we just ran a 40min gnomeregan run |
| 12:08.55 | Wobin_ | Of course we cheated. |
| 12:09.17 | Industrial | http://www.bloodstorm.net/download/Onyxia_Wipe.swf |
| 12:09.18 | Industrial | lol |
| 12:09.18 | Industrial | :D |
| 12:10.12 | Neronix | Old but awesome :) |
| 12:10.21 | Industrial | wow is not a job |
| 12:10.23 | Industrial | mmk |
| 12:10.27 | Industrial | fucking morons |
| 12:15.21 | Gngsk | lol, tail swipe animation ftw |
| 12:16.56 | haste | Industrial: http://razrserious.ytmnd.com/ << same person |
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| 12:19.17 | Gngsk | yah, I know the guys quite well |
| 12:19.25 | Gngsk | the flash was a nice way to make it fresh |
| 12:21.11 | haste | http://huhuranisserious.ytmnsfw.com/ << is also nice :p |
| 12:21.17 | Thiana | Is there a list of spell <-> icons somewhere? |
| 12:22.39 | Wobin_ | I think there's one on wowwiki |
| 12:22.43 | Thiana | Thanks. |
| 12:22.44 | Wobin_ | or alla |
| 12:28.45 | Thiana | http://www.worldofwar.net/imagesnight/icons/ |
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| 12:33.21 | [Ammo] | what I usually do is search the spell on thottbot, and get the properties of the icon they show there |
| 12:33.27 | [Ammo] | it contains the iconname perfectly :) |
| 12:35.07 | haste | same |
| 12:36.39 | Industrial | character move in progress |
| 12:36.41 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 12:36.46 | Industrial | i didnt forget |
| 12:36.49 | Industrial | and im just in time too |
| 12:36.50 | Industrial | ;P |
| 12:37.41 | haste | :D |
| 12:39.37 | haste | hihi, my warlock has a staff as off-hand :p |
| 12:39.50 | Industrial | http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/9417/altui1vd.jpg |
| 12:39.51 | Industrial | :o |
| 12:41.13 | haste | 3d frames :( |
| 12:41.47 | Industrial | except that |
| 12:41.50 | Industrial | its nice ;) |
| 12:42.04 | Industrial | especially the actionbuttons |
| 12:42.44 | haste | and the font :p |
| 12:43.58 | haste | is it visor or your own ;) ? |
| 12:44.11 | Industrial | its not mine |
| 12:44.12 | Industrial | :\ |
| 12:44.36 | haste | aaw |
| 12:44.41 | haste | what is it then :o ? |
| 12:46.07 | Industrial | from the eu forums |
| 12:46.09 | Industrial | showoff thread |
| 12:47.22 | haste | hokai |
| 12:47.43 | Industrial | arg |
| 12:47.46 | Industrial | i say that too all the time |
| 12:47.49 | Industrial | hhhhikhai |
| 12:47.51 | Industrial | hhho* |
| 12:47.55 | Industrial | wheres it from... |
| 12:48.03 | haste | some anime |
| 12:48.39 | haste | I know the author of the end of the world clip also uses it |
| 12:48.56 | Industrial | ah theres what i got it from |
| 12:49.01 | Industrial | its the mario movie |
| 12:49.16 | Industrial | hhoookhai so I WANNA PLAY |
| 12:49.20 | Industrial | :P |
| 12:50.51 | haste | link ;) ? |
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| 12:52.42 | Industrial | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/mario.php |
| 12:52.48 | Industrial | shiggidy shiggidy schwa |
| 12:52.49 | Industrial | :D |
| 12:53.16 | Industrial | they look so god dam like de same person |
| 12:54.09 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r1877 10PerfectRaidTargets/Core.lua: |
| 12:54.09 | CIA-17 | PerfectRaidTargets: Hope Tekkub doesn't mind, but I really do need to be able to properly disable this addon at the Razorgore fight until the performance |
| 12:54.09 | CIA-17 | issues with lots of targets are solved. |
| 12:55.54 | Industrial | i need to go work for a bit now.. |
| 13:03.34 | haste | aaw :( |
| 13:05.01 | [Ammo] | I hate silly scrollframe stuff |
| 13:05.27 | [Ammo] | still need to do oRA_Item/Resist/Durability |
| 13:08.06 | Gngsk | are there any plans for the aggro warning functionality ctra has? |
| 13:10.03 | [Ammo] | there are other seperate mods around that do that |
| 13:10.17 | [Ammo] | at least it's been asked before on the forums and someone pointed to a mod that did that exact thing |
| 13:10.30 | Gngsk | ahh, I was looking for one |
| 13:10.39 | Gngsk | I'll check the forum |
| 13:10.51 | [Ammo] | but feel free to make an oRA_Aggro |
| 13:10.53 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 13:11.04 | Gngsk | :P |
| 13:11.16 | [Ammo] | or a seperate addon since I don't think this belongs in here |
| 13:11.26 | [Ammo] | but that's just me |
| 13:11.40 | haste | I was thinking of making otravi_YADIW - You are doing it wrong |
| 13:11.40 | Gngsk | well, I was thinking it used the comm chan but I dunno if it does |
| 13:11.49 | haste | which was just the CTRA aggro warning extracted to a seperate addon |
| 13:12.57 | Neronix | Gngsk: Is what you're talking about something that alerts you when you gain aggro? |
| 13:13.13 | Neronix | it won't use the comm chan if it is, and doesn't alert anyone else |
| 13:13.30 | Gngsk | yea, that's what I meant |
| 13:13.34 | Neronix | Plenty of mods that do that :) |
| 13:13.40 | Gngsk | but most the mods I'm finding only work for your target |
| 13:13.58 | Neronix | Ah, I see |
| 13:14.15 | [Ammo] | I have no idea how CTRA does it, I'll dive in the code, one sec :) |
| 13:14.48 | [Ammo] | it works off the MT frames |
| 13:15.04 | Gngsk | ahh |
| 13:15.07 | [Ammo] | if ToT changes and changes to you -> warning |
| 13:15.09 | Neronix | it'll use the comm channel then |
| 13:15.13 | Gngsk | so you won't get an alert unless a tank has it targeted |
| 13:15.30 | haste | it checks if you are MT or not |
| 13:15.37 | haste | and if you aren't then you get the warning |
| 13:15.43 | [Ammo] | no it doesn't use the comm channel |
| 13:15.47 | haste | [Ammo]: line 2600 |
| 13:15.49 | [Ammo] | it loops over all raidmembers |
| 13:15.53 | haste | in ct_raidassist ;) |
| 13:15.55 | [Ammo] | I am there |
| 13:15.59 | haste | aye |
| 13:16.17 | [Ammo] | it loops all raidmembers, checks if that member is an MT, then checks target and checks if it changed to you |
| 13:16.19 | Neronix | What about a tank mode aggro alert? Something that alerts when you lose a mob's aggro |
| 13:16.59 | haste | not a good idea, since mobs change target often |
| 13:17.00 | [Ammo] | I think someone should just make a separate addon out of it |
| 13:17.08 | [Ammo] | it might be a good idea |
| 13:17.08 | haste | and not everyone in the MT list is a warrior :) |
| 13:17.11 | Gngsk | FuBar_AggroFu |
| 13:17.19 | [Ammo] | but only if aggro is changed for > 2 seconds or so |
| 13:17.34 | haste | then the tank should have noticed :p |
| 13:17.38 | [Ammo] | since there are mobs that just target somsone to put a debuff on them and continue smashing the tank |
| 13:17.41 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 13:17.47 | [Ammo] | so it's quite useless |
| 13:17.53 | Neronix | I see |
| 13:18.08 | Gngsk | Ming's videos show an aggro meter that seemingly warns when a non targeted player has targeted him |
| 13:18.31 | [Ammo] | screenshot :p |
| 13:18.43 | Gngsk | ahh, sec |
| 13:18.51 | [Ammo] | I hate downloading videos |
| 13:19.12 | [Ammo] | I need to farm some more stuff right before tonights raid |
| 13:19.16 | [Ammo] | need to go and tank some emps again |
| 13:19.22 | [Ammo] | at least for the pull |
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| 13:20.10 | [Ammo] | but first the fun defenders fights :) |
| 13:20.55 | [Ammo] | shadowstorm thunderclap is the only pull we haven't defeated yet, the rest we just pull and kill |
| 13:21.15 | MoonWolf | what is shadowstorm ? |
| 13:21.17 | [Ammo] | at least I think it was shadowstorm thunderclap |
| 13:21.20 | [Ammo] | AOE shadowbolts |
| 13:21.22 | MoonWolf | the multiple shadowbolt thing ? |
| 13:21.23 | MoonWolf | ah |
| 13:21.28 | MoonWolf | I wish warlocks could do that. |
| 13:21.30 | [Ammo] | if you stay close to the monster it won't fire them at you |
| 13:21.39 | [Ammo] | but staying close -> getting hit by the spam thunderclaps |
| 13:21.59 | [Ammo] | the best fight we've had so far was Meteor Thunderclap |
| 13:22.29 | [Ammo] | 5 tanks on the boss being healed the rest of us in a big group |
| 13:22.46 | MoonWolf | 5 tanks |
| 13:22.50 | MoonWolf | isnt that a bit much |
| 13:22.56 | [Ammo] | meteor's damage becomes less when more people get hit |
| 13:23.04 | [Ammo] | if you put 1 tank on the boss and meteor comes down on it, it hits for 15k : |
| 13:23.10 | [Ammo] | so you need 5 to mitigate the damage |
| 13:23.15 | Gngsk | http://tiger.towson.edu/~vschum1/aggro.jpg |
| 13:23.22 | MoonWolf | ah |
| 13:23.33 | MoonWolf | I fail at knowning AQ busson. |
| 13:23.39 | MoonWolf | bosses* |
| 13:23.57 | [Ammo] | it's the Anubisath Defenders |
| 13:24.03 | [Ammo] | they're the 'trash' in front of Twin Emps |
| 13:24.08 | [Ammo] | best trash in game |
| 13:24.09 | MoonWolf | some trash |
| 13:24.10 | Gngsk | and before ossirian in aq20 |
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| 13:24.19 | [Ammo] | the ones before ossirian are weakass versions :) |
| 13:24.27 | Gngsk | yah, but the same |
| 13:24.31 | [Ammo] | no |
| 13:24.33 | [Ammo] | not the same |
| 13:24.39 | [Ammo] | the ones in AQ40 have multiple abilities |
| 13:24.49 | Gngsk | right |
| 13:24.50 | [Ammo] | those in front of ossirian have less |
| 13:25.08 | Gngsk | meteor+tc is rough |
| 13:25.13 | [Ammo] | it's pretty easy |
| 13:25.21 | [Ammo] | we died on the supposedly easy pull |
| 13:25.24 | [Ammo] | shadowstorm meteor |
| 13:25.30 | Gngsk | yea, that's the easiest |
| 13:25.32 | [Ammo] | we got owned |
| 13:25.53 | Gngsk | shadowstorm thunderclap and meteor thunderclap are the two toughst, I think |
| 13:25.55 | [Ammo] | but at least we're quick through em since we don't need to endlessly feign and pull again :) |
| 13:26.04 | [Ammo] | shadowstorm thunderclap can be done |
| 13:26.10 | [Ammo] | by staying at the deadzone |
| 13:26.21 | [Ammo] | there's a circle of 5 yards you can be in |
| 13:26.28 | Gngsk | ahh |
| 13:26.39 | [Ammo] | at least my raid listens to orders :) |
| 13:26.42 | Gngsk | haven't fought that combo yet, but I thought you'd have to be in range of both |
| 13:26.47 | [Ammo] | no you don't |
| 13:26.51 | [Ammo] | but it's a small zone |
| 13:26.55 | Gngsk | well, one or the other |
| 13:26.58 | [Ammo] | and the tank needs to keep the mob in place |
| 13:27.17 | Gngsk | did you check the screenshot? |
| 13:27.19 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 13:27.28 | [Ammo] | I think it's a seperate aggro alert mod |
| 13:27.38 | Gngsk | yah, but which one? |
| 13:27.45 | Gngsk | looks like he's gettingn an aggro alert from the warlock behind him |
| 13:27.52 | Gngsk | the one he has targeted doesn't have him targeted |
| 13:28.23 | Gngsk | well, I guess I could just ask ming ;) |
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| 13:29.13 | [Ammo] | asking will be fastest I think |
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| 14:31.03 | Amadeo- | hola |
| 14:31.19 | [MoonWolf] | hiya |
| 14:32.03 | Gngsk | yo |
| 14:32.58 | Amadeo- | Anything special going on today? |
| 14:33.06 | [MoonWolf] | nope |
| 14:33.10 | [MoonWolf] | pretty uneventfull |
| 14:33.32 | Amadeo- | hehe |
| 14:36.22 | Gngsk | US realms down for maintenance |
| 14:36.41 | Gngsk | I think I'll take this opportunity to go outside, doesn't happen often! |
| 14:37.42 | Amadeo- | hehe |
| 14:37.56 | Amadeo- | Put on sunblock |
| 14:37.57 | Amadeo- | :P |
| 14:42.46 | Amadeo- | ckknight is sleeping? What's gonna happen to FuBar? :( |
| 14:46.34 | Cairenn | what do you mean, what's going to happen to it? |
| 14:47.16 | Neronix | Blood Elf space pirates will sabotage it! |
| 14:49.41 | Amadeo- | Cairenn: Without FuBar updates, will the world explode? |
| 14:49.46 | Amadeo- | (or implode) |
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| 14:50.51 | Cairenn | lol |
| 14:51.29 | Amadeo- | Neronix: Does it plug in yet? :D |
| 14:54.07 | Neronix | Amadeo-: Does what? |
| 14:55.07 | Amadeo- | NeroStats plug into FuBar :D |
| 14:55.43 | Neronix | I'm coding that right now |
| 14:56.18 | Amadeo- | <3 |
| 14:56.28 | Neronix | NanoStats itself won't. NanoStatsFu will be a totally separate addon |
| 14:56.38 | Neronix | I don't see a need to have 2 kinds of display on :P |
| 14:57.33 | Amadeo- | true |
| 15:01.19 | Amadeo- | MiniGroup2 is too buggy |
| 15:01.22 | Amadeo- | I can't use it anymore |
| 15:01.27 | Industrial | ditto |
| 15:01.32 | Industrial | i use the default blizz ones |
| 15:01.50 | Industrial | but with class icons in the portraits |
| 15:02.20 | Amadeo- | seems that most unit frames are buggy, hehe |
| 15:02.21 | GenNMX|Thrae | WatchDog FTW. |
| 15:02.40 | Amadeo- | If someone can help me make WatchDog purdier... :D |
| 15:02.43 | GenNMX|Thrae | Never had a problem with WatchDog. Very simple, very configurable, simply perfect. WatchDog. |
| 15:02.48 | Wobin_ | Night! |
| 15:02.53 | Amadeo- | Already, Wobin_? |
| 15:02.55 | Amadeo- | :) |
| 15:02.58 | Amadeo- | Night |
| 15:03.04 | Wobin_ | yeah, I figure I'll get an early night =P |
| 15:03.09 | Wobin_ | It's only 11 =P |
| 15:03.16 | Amadeo- | Where are ya from? |
| 15:03.30 | Wobin_ | From? Australia. Currently in? Beijing =) |
| 15:03.40 | GenNMX|Thrae | Bah, "pretty" is in the eye of the beholder. I don't need fancy stuff like "class icons" -- text saying "Druid" is good enough for me. |
| 15:03.41 | Amadeo- | hah, I see |
| 15:03.55 | Amadeo- | GenNMX|Thrae: I don't need that either, just... |
| 15:04.10 | Amadeo- | hm, clad showed me a wiki page with a modified WatchDog that I really liked :) |
| 15:04.16 | Amadeo- | I'll never find it now |
| 15:04.43 | Wobin_ | The one covered in all the porn links =P |
| 15:04.51 | Amadeo- | yeah! |
| 15:04.52 | Amadeo- | that one |
| 15:04.53 | Amadeo- | haha |
| 15:04.57 | Industrial | i dont like tha anghors of the text in watchdog |
| 15:04.59 | Amadeo- | I was wondering why I really liked it... |
| 15:04.59 | Wobin_ | check out the logs |
| 15:05.01 | Amadeo- | Just kidding :P |
| 15:05.04 | Amadeo- | I don't log :( |
| 15:05.05 | Industrial | if you use left and right anchors for example |
| 15:05.11 | Industrial | i mean center and right |
| 15:05.27 | Industrial | the center isnt in the center then, its in the center between the left and left of the right |
| 15:05.31 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:06.03 | Industrial | | foo | |
| 15:06.06 | Industrial | thats center |
| 15:06.11 | Amadeo- | ace.pastebin.com isn't loading :( |
| 15:06.26 | Industrial | | foo right| |
| 15:06.30 | Industrial | thats how it will be |
| 15:06.53 | Industrial | know what i mean?:p |
| 15:07.25 | GenNMX|Thrae | Amadeo-: http://watchdog.brokendreams.net/Main_Page |
| 15:08.18 | Amadeo- | Industrial: | foo| ? |
| 15:08.41 | Amadeo- | GenNMX|Thrae: Not that one, it was a page that had a screenshot of a customized WD :) |
| 15:09.01 | GenNMX|Thrae | Amadeo-: Yes, I know what you're talking about, and it's on that wiki. |
| 15:11.18 | Amadeo- | I can't find it :P |
| 15:13.15 | Neronix | Amadeo-: http://watchdog.brokendreams.net/Custom_Setup_Gallery |
| 15:13.24 | Neronix | Special:Allpages FTW |
| 15:13.44 | GenNMX|Thrae | Yeah, he removed the link from the main page, but as Neronix pointed out, it's still there ;) |
| 15:13.47 | Amadeo- | Thanks :) |
| 15:13.57 | Amadeo- | so, yeah |
| 15:14.02 | Amadeo- | I want it to look more like that for me :) |
| 15:15.33 | Amadeo- | I guess arse-amateurs wouldn't be the right download link for it |
| 15:17.25 | GenNMX|Thrae | My own WatchDog setup is simple: target line 1 == [left][istapped][aggro][name][white] [right][statuscolor][status][white] H:[curhp]/[maxhp], target line 2 == [left][difficulty][level][plus][white] [creature] [right]M:[curmp]/[maxmp], player line 1 == [left][leader][name] [right][statuscolor][status][white] H:[curhp]/[maxhp], player line 2 == [left][difficulty][level][plus][white] [raidcolor][class][white] [right] M:[curmp]/[maxmp |
| 15:18.09 | GenNMX|Thrae | And when I'm playing a healer, I set both Health and Mana to grow on depletion (reverse gradiant) |
| 15:18.50 | Amadeo- | have a screenshot of it? |
| 15:19.37 | GenNMX|Thrae | Grow on depletion is one the main reasons I use WatchDog, I find it easier to notice a large red health bar for low health or a large blue bar for low mana then a small bar. |
| 15:20.45 | GenNMX|Thrae | I don't have a current screenshot, but there really isn't much point. I have no background texture, so all I have is text until someone gets hurt or uses up mana. |
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| 15:20.57 | Amadeo- | I see |
| 15:21.43 | GenNMX|Thrae | Like I said, WatchDog isn't intended to be pretty, it's intended to most effectively convey the information you are looking for ;) I guess non-healing / buffing classes have more leeway on the look-and-feel of their UI, though. |
| 15:22.21 | Amadeo- | Doesn't need to be necessarily pretty for me, just more visually useable :) |
| 15:22.41 | Amadeo- | It's hard to differentiate the health/mana bars and see them under the default text |
| 15:23.09 | GenNMX|Thrae | Well...actually, now that I think about it, all classes can benefit from a reliable source of information about party members, even Mages. |
| 15:23.53 | GenNMX|Thrae | Yeah, that's why I have it set on Grow On Depletion, which I think should be an option for any mod that has text overtop of your bars. |
| 15:24.08 | GenNMX|Thrae | I'll give you a screenshot later tonight. |
| 15:24.13 | Amadeo- | Cool, I'm curious |
| 15:25.36 | Amadeo- | whoa |
| 15:25.41 | Amadeo- | Skype is free from PC to Phone now within the US? |
| 15:25.55 | Amadeo- | That's awesome |
| 15:29.43 | Neronix | certain ip ranges are having trouble with it though |
| 15:29.43 | Neronix | or so I hear |
| 15:29.56 | Amadeo- | oh bah, to the end of the year only |
| 15:30.01 | Amadeo- | still beats nothing |
| 15:30.06 | Amadeo- | Neronix: Oh yeah? |
| 15:36.55 | Neronix | 71.x.x.x and 72.x.x.x I think it was |
| 15:39.13 | Amadeo- | There should be a WoW frontend where you can load it and setup your UI at any time, even while servers are down |
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| 15:44.28 | [MoonWolf] | morning tem |
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| 15:46.28 | Tem | hmm... I wonder if I can force my other client to switch nicks... |
| 15:46.42 | Tem | it' |
| 15:46.44 | CIA-17 | 03kaelten * r1878 10KC_Items/ (core/ tooltip/tooltip.lua): KC_Items: fixed annoying nil bug. |
| 15:46.50 | Tem | ll probably reconnect |
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| 15:46.59 | Tem | damnit! |
| 15:47.08 | Tem | since when is it smart enough to keep the nick |
| 15:48.05 | *** kick/#wowace [Tem|Sleep!i=WoWGuruJ@ocslabs-144.lsu.edu] by Tem (Tem) |
| 15:48.12 | Tem | take that! |
| 15:48.28 | Tem | what? no auto rejoin? |
| 15:48.48 | Tem | oh well... |
| 15:48.51 | Tem | time for work |
| 15:48.56 | Tain | You should just call it a day and go home and fix it. |
| 15:49.01 | Tem | lol I wish |
| 15:49.03 | *** part/#wowace Tem (i=WoWGuruJ@ocslabs-144.lsu.edu) |
| 15:50.29 | CIA-17 | 03kaelten * r1879 10KC_Items/ (13 files in 6 dirs): KC_Items: Moved core files under a core directory for logical reorganization. |
| 15:52.19 | Amadeo- | he's stealth-updating again |
| 15:54.28 | Amadeo- | I'm just glad that CIA's got my back |
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| 16:22.35 | Stylpe | So, I'm thinking about making a Horde char on an EU RP-PVP server. Anyone play on one of those? |
| 16:23.39 | [MoonWolf] | i play on defias brotherhood but i play alliance |
| 16:23.56 | [MoonWolf] | good community though |
| 16:25.36 | [MoonWolf] | scarshiled was nice too |
| 16:25.42 | [MoonWolf] | while i had a horde alt there |
| 16:26.17 | Stylpe | Have you heard anything about Defias Brotherhood? |
| 16:26.28 | [MoonWolf] | i play there..... |
| 16:26.52 | Stylpe | Oh lol, I mean Venture Co |
| 16:27.20 | [MoonWolf] | was opened with defias, heard some bad stories, heard some good stories. |
| 16:27.35 | [MoonWolf] | apperently the cybor ration is pretty high there. |
| 16:27.43 | [MoonWolf] | ratio* |
| 16:27.48 | Stylpe | hehe |
| 16:28.31 | Stylpe | Well, I'm thinking about joining Defias, it has the best activity ratio (1:1) according to Warcraftrealms.com |
| 16:29.00 | [MoonWolf] | yep its pretty balanced |
| 16:29.03 | Stylpe | but I kinda want a horde char, but I also wanna play with someone I know or can trust |
| 16:29.28 | Stylpe | And I'm a gnome by heart... =P |
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| 16:29.55 | Stylpe | When do yo uusually play? |
| 16:30.05 | [MoonWolf] | ah, but i wont be much help then, my nightelf hates non nelfs by default |
| 16:30.22 | [MoonWolf] | after 6 gmt+1 |
| 16:30.28 | [MoonWolf] | wich is the server time. |
| 16:31.20 | [MoonWolf] | i cant help you on the money part though |
| 16:31.27 | [MoonWolf] | i have 95 silver right now.... |
| 16:31.33 | [MoonWolf] | stupid mount. |
| 16:31.36 | Stylpe | I didn't mention money... |
| 16:31.45 | [MoonWolf] | ah, but i like helping people. |
| 16:32.08 | [MoonWolf] | anyway, dinner time. |
| 16:32.10 | Stylpe | You mean you like helping night elves ;) |
| 16:42.11 | Amadeo- | ok, if you use WatchDog, show me what ya got :) |
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| 16:51.20 | Tain | My Watchdog is fairly simple, actually. |
| 16:51.32 | Amadeo- | Everyone says that! |
| 16:51.44 | Amadeo- | (11:17:45) (GenNMX|Thrae) My own WatchDog setup is simple |
| 16:52.13 | Amadeo- | Show me yours :) |
| 16:53.00 | Tain | Here's my target and player setup |
| 16:53.01 | Tain | http://ace.pastebin.com/720881 |
| 16:53.46 | Tain | In combat probably looks like this still mainly |
| 16:53.47 | Tain | http://crushingdreams.com/images/WoWScrnShot_050606_154642.png |
| 16:54.06 | Cairenn | yo, Ratbert_CP |
| 16:54.08 | Ratbert_CP | Yo |
| 16:54.19 | Cairenn | don't put it up just as a file, make it a zip |
| 16:54.26 | Ratbert_CP | Oh.. Right. Sorry. |
| 16:54.31 | Cairenn | no one is gonna be able to work with it this way unless they have a clue |
| 16:54.49 | Cairenn | can you edit, or shall I just delete and let you fresh-upload? |
| 16:54.58 | Ratbert_CP | Delete, and I'll re-upload it |
| 16:55.02 | Ratbert_CP | Wait!@ |
| 16:55.13 | Cairenn | here's your text: " Due to unnoticed reorganizations within the embedded libraries CompostLib and PeriodicTableEmbed, the BagBoy.toc was not loading the files needed. This new .toc will fix that. Future releases will be more intelligently monitored. |
| 16:55.13 | Cairenn | This has impacted only those users who don't have any other AddOn using those embedded libs." |
| 16:55.26 | Ratbert_CP | Yeah, delete and I'll re-upload it. |
| 16:55.35 | Amadeo- | Tain: Do you use dynamic widths? |
| 16:55.37 | Cairenn | gone |
| 16:55.47 | Ratbert_CP | Yeah, some nimrod reorganized the PT and Compost file structures, and I didn't catch the changes... |
| 16:55.51 | Ratbert_CP | :) |
| 16:56.21 | Tain | Yeah I do Amadeo |
| 16:56.23 | Cairenn | figured just as easy to re-upload if I gave you your text to c/p |
| 16:56.50 | Tain | I had had it previously using fixed width and then setting a limit of the name, but I decided I liked the dynamic better. |
| 16:57.32 | Tain | Although actually for group frames I do like fixed width, now that I think about it. |
| 16:57.37 | Amadeo- | I like dynamic, but when you have two frames attached to one another, they overlap when one grows |
| 17:00.02 | Ratbert_CP | Cairenn: New file zipped and upped... |
| 17:00.22 | Cairenn | and approved |
| 17:02.06 | Tain | Thunder? What the hell, I wasn't expecting that. |
| 17:02.09 | Amadeo- | Where can I find info on changing the bar texture in WatchDog? |
| 17:02.34 | Tain | I don't, I was told it was simple, spent a few minutes looking and couldn't figure it out so I gave up. |
| 17:02.43 | Tain | Afterall if something is difficult then it isn't really worth doing in the first place. |
| 17:02.55 | Amadeo- | is it on the wiki? |
| 17:02.57 | Amadeo- | haha |
| 17:05.12 | Amadeo- | I want someone to say, "My WatchDog setup is fairly complex" |
| 17:05.17 | Amadeo- | and then show me what they got goin on ;) |
| 17:06.35 | Neronix | My WD setup is the simplest of all! |
| 17:06.39 | Neronix | "" |
| 17:06.43 | Neronix | I don't use it :P |
| 17:06.47 | Amadeo- | :( |
| 17:07.31 | Tain | I would like to find a nice texture for the bars though. |
| 17:12.01 | Tain | I'm pretty sure with the current WD you'd have to actually add a couple lines of code to do it. |
| 17:12.05 | Amadeo- | aww :( |
| 17:12.41 | Tain | Have to be in game to verify, but something like WatchDogFrame_playerTexture:SetTexture("whatever texture") |
| 17:13.03 | Amadeo- | hm |
| 17:13.17 | Amadeo- | I'd have to know *where* to put it to test it, haha |
| 17:13.28 | Amadeo- | one for health and one for mana though, right? |
| 17:13.33 | Tain | Well for testing I'd do it from the command line. /script |
| 17:13.56 | Tain | But when it actually works... that's a different story. :) |
| 17:15.06 | Tain | Oh it's (I think) WatchDogFrame_playerStatusBar1Texture and WatchDogFrame_playerStatusBar2Texture |
| 17:15.42 | Tain | This is all from looking at the XML and trying to visualize, so it might not be 100%. |
| 17:16.31 | Amadeo- | gotcha |
| 17:16.58 | [MoonWolf] | back |
| 17:17.21 | Amadeo- | Anyone in here a doctor? :P |
| 17:17.47 | Ratbert_CP | No, but I've seen them on TV... |
| 17:18.47 | Amadeo- | haha |
| 17:20.05 | Neronix | I'm a doctor of idiocy |
| 17:20.09 | Neronix | does that help? :P |
| 17:21.23 | Amadeo- | only if it plugs into FuBar ;) |
| 17:21.48 | kergoth | meh |
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| 17:30.16 | Tain | Amadeo-: The actual command is (just tested) WatchDogFrame_player_StatusBar1_Texture:SetTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\WatchDog\\Perl_StatusBar1") |
| 17:30.41 | Tain | For StatusBar1_Texture and StatusBar2_Texture, and replacing the last texture part with whatever texture file of course. |
| 17:33.37 | Amadeo- | but StatusBar2 can be up to 3, so how does that work? |
| 17:33.54 | Amadeo- | Meaning, Rage(Red), Mana(Blue), Energy(Yellow) |
| 17:35.10 | Tain | It's just a background texture that the color is applied to that you use. The texture itself is really just varying levels of greyscale. |
| 17:35.23 | Amadeo- | ohh, ok |
| 17:35.30 | Amadeo- | I never knew that |
| 17:35.38 | Tain | I just grabbed two that are in the AceUnitFrames addon to test as examples. |
| 17:35.48 | Tain | Which were derived from the Perl unit frame textures. |
| 17:36.28 | Amadeo- | how's it look? |
| 17:36.36 | Tain | Although I'm not quite sure why it won't apply them when I try putting them in the WatchDog.xml instead of in game, but I'll have to ask Clad about that. |
| 17:36.48 | Amadeo- | hm |
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| 17:39.56 | Shyva | hlo |
| 17:40.05 | Shyva | wrong window :-/ |
| 17:40.07 | Shyva | sorry |
| 17:41.32 | Amadeo- | Blizzard broke authentication again already |
| 17:42.17 | Industrial | haste: jeez grim batol has a queue :| |
| 17:42.22 | Industrial | hope it will get less over time |
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| 17:47.50 | haste | Industrial: Mr. T said it would be fixed |
| 17:49.34 | Industrial | and i still cant create a char |
| 17:49.42 | Industrial | (mine was moved over) |
| 17:49.56 | Industrial | haste: could you help me with a hook? its doing weird stuff.. |
| 17:50.10 | haste | I'm in AQ40 right now, but I think so :p |
| 17:50.11 | Tain | Amadeo-: Here's an example of how the two different textures I tried look. http://crushingdreams.com/images/WD_PerlTexture.jpg |
| 17:51.03 | Industrial | haste: lol |
| 17:52.20 | Industrial | line 124-160 and 312-337 -> http://rafb.net/paste/results/8LRrAz66.html |
| 17:52.29 | Amadeo- | hey, I like it |
| 17:52.41 | Amadeo- | brb |
| 17:52.45 | Industrial | the problem is that AddMessage doesnt uh.. do anything anymore.. |
| 17:52.54 | Industrial | if i say something it doesnt appear in the chatframe |
| 17:52.55 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:54.30 | HoJ|Slayman | Tain u here? |
| 17:56.30 | Tain | Actually just on my way out the door, be back in a bit. |
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| 18:01.51 | Industrial | clad|Sleep: you.... not here.. |
| 18:03.35 | Slayman | Tain: once you're back u read this, it was a minor issue i was able to handle myself it has nothing to do with any addons, thx anyway. |
| 18:06.23 | haste | Industrial: do you call the old function? |
| 18:08.39 | Industrial | yes |
| 18:08.59 | Industrial | line 138 |
| 18:09.25 | Industrial | the anoying thing is that i cant check if there are args there or not |
| 18:09.36 | Industrial | because it doesnt show me errors in the chat frame |
| 18:09.43 | Industrial | becausse thats the error |
| 18:09.44 | Industrial | ;) |
| 18:11.08 | haste | hehe |
| 18:11.18 | *** topic/#wowace by [MoonWolf] -> wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | Money? What is this "Money" You speak of? Does it drop from Onixia? |
| 18:11.48 | Industrial | i could use ... and unpack(arg) |
| 18:12.10 | haste | isn't unpack very evil :p ? |
| 18:12.33 | Industrial | i dont care |
| 18:12.34 | Industrial | :p |
| 18:12.48 | Industrial | for now.. |
| 18:20.52 | haste | hehe |
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| 18:22.21 | *** topic/#wowace by Tem -> wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | http://www.lua.org/pil <-- READ IT |
| 18:23.06 | Industrial | Tem: help meeee |
| 18:23.07 | Industrial | :P |
| 18:23.11 | Industrial | im stuck >_o |
| 18:23.46 | Tem | oh what? |
| 18:24.18 | Industrial | http://rafb.net/paste/results/YfW5pY68.html |
| 18:24.30 | Industrial | my chat frame AddMessage hook doesnt work |
| 18:24.37 | Industrial | its showing no text at all in my chatframe |
| 18:24.48 | Industrial | line 124-160 |
| 18:24.59 | Industrial | and 312-337 |
| 18:25.21 | Tem | ... |
| 18:25.24 | Tem | use AceHook |
| 18:25.50 | Industrial | I am |
| 18:26.38 | Industrial | idChat:Hook(frame, 'AddMessage', self[func]) |
| 18:26.39 | Industrial | see? :p |
| 18:27.13 | Tem | it's never getting that far |
| 18:27.19 | Tem | because of the return |
| 18:27.45 | Industrial | uh thats just defining a function |
| 18:27.52 | Industrial | self[func] |
| 18:27.56 | Industrial | 7 of them |
| 18:28.10 | Tem | and you're using the wrong syntax I think |
| 18:28.16 | Industrial | on what |
| 18:28.22 | Tem | you don't need 7 of them |
| 18:28.53 | Industrial | we have 7 frames, right? |
| 18:28.58 | Tem | it will work if you just change the "self[func]" in your hook to "func" |
| 18:29.16 | Tem | but it will be more efficient if you use the same function for all of them |
| 18:29.18 | Industrial | but func is just a string |
| 18:29.36 | Industrial | hm, you are right |
| 18:29.39 | Tem | and that's what you pass to Hook |
| 18:29.41 | Tem | a string |
| 18:30.54 | Industrial | or a function |
| 18:32.41 | Industrial | AceHook:Hook |
| 18:32.41 | Industrial | self:Hook("functionName", ["handlerName" | handler]) |
| 18:32.41 | Industrial | self:Hook(ObjectName, "Method", ["Handler" | handler]) |
| 18:33.53 | Neronix | Aww fuck |
| 18:34.01 | Neronix | speaker outport's fucked |
| 18:34.10 | Stylpe | Bummer |
| 18:34.13 | Neronix | s/outport/out port |
| 18:34.22 | Neronix | only getting left speaker stuff |
| 18:34.29 | Neronix | WTB sound card |
| 18:34.34 | Lucen | Industrial: if it'll help, here's how I'm doing my timestamps and I haven't had any problems: http://ace.pastebin.com/721068 |
| 18:35.04 | Industrial | Lucen: thats from ChattScroll right? |
| 18:35.10 | Industrial | ChatScroll* |
| 18:35.22 | Industrial | well. thats the same as mine then, lol |
| 18:35.25 | Lucen | not sure to be honest |
| 18:35.26 | Tem | haste: you around? |
| 18:35.30 | haste | Tem: yeh |
| 18:35.38 | Neronix | What's the cheapest I can get for a decent sound card? |
| 18:35.46 | Tem | so, I'm thinking about writing a MT ui that uses oRA |
| 18:35.56 | Tem | any pitfalls I should know about before starting? |
| 18:36.26 | haste | isn't there a oRA_MainTankUI ? |
| 18:36.30 | Tem | ya |
| 18:36.33 | Tem | but it's ugly |
| 18:36.50 | haste | hehe |
| 18:36.54 | Tem | please, please, tell me that oRA fires the MT_CHANGED event every time an MT's raid id changes |
| 18:37.10 | haste | it does |
| 18:37.18 | Tem | sweet, sweet victory |
| 18:37.22 | Tem | this is going to be easy |
| 18:37.38 | haste | RA_MAINTANK, RA_MAINTANK_REMOVED, CTRASPY_MAINTANKS_UPDATED |
| 18:38.06 | Tem | what's the args? |
| 18:38.36 | haste | the two first are the same as on the chat event |
| 18:38.46 | haste | on the last one arg1 is the MT table |
| 18:39.40 | Tem | can I rely on just one of them? |
| 18:39.54 | Tem | or do I need to moniter more than one? |
| 18:39.59 | Tem | monitor* |
| 18:40.59 | haste | you can use CTRASPY_... since it contains the current MT table |
| 18:41.30 | Tem | what do you *suggest* I do? |
| 18:44.54 | Ratbert_CP | <3 DewDrop |
| 18:45.44 | haste | Tem: no idea (raiding now) |
| 18:45.45 | Tem | I'm not done with you!; come back! |
| 18:45.58 | Codayus | heh |
| 18:46.01 | Tem | haste: k. Then I have only 1 requests left |
| 18:46.17 | Tem | haste: #1 Finish pretty-fying oRA gui |
| 18:46.39 | Tem | haste: #2 I need a screenshot of the prettyfied ready check again |
| 18:47.11 | haste | Tem: http://www.fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/oRA_Ready.png |
| 18:47.17 | haste | it has red buttons on both now btw |
| 18:47.51 | Tem | upload that bitch to the svn. I wanna use it |
| 18:49.18 | haste | it is on the SVN |
| 18:49.30 | Tem | branch or something? |
| 18:51.13 | haste | should be in the trunk |
| 18:52.17 | Tem | I was using trunk last night and it was the old frames? |
| 18:52.26 | Codayus | Hmm, trunk looks like the new frames. |
| 18:53.05 | Codayus | Was committed uh....on the 11th. |
| 18:53.29 | Tem | maybe I'm retarded |
| 18:53.32 | Codayus | There's not even any XML around for the old frames. Hmm |
| 18:53.43 | kloppe | I'm getting the new frames with trunk anyway |
| 18:54.09 | Tem | ah, maybe I just need to svn cleanpu |
| 18:54.52 | Codayus | Well, the current .toc doesn't mention the .xml. What revision do you have, anyhow? |
| 18:54.59 | Tem | dun know |
| 18:57.13 | Tem | oh poop, I gotta go back to work :( |
| 18:57.22 | Codayus | Hmm, did support for setting targets ever get added to oRA? |
| 18:58.03 | Codayus | Checks oRA_Assist's log...looks like not. |
| 18:59.06 | Neronix | Do any embeds require Ace? |
| 18:59.10 | phyber | sometimes I love BugSack. I have an error when I mouse over the [X] button to pass on loot. but bugsack doesn't catch it :( |
| 18:59.22 | haste | Codayus: setting tagets - like how? |
| 18:59.40 | haste | s/ag/arg/ |
| 19:00.03 | Codayus | Using oRA to assigning targets to MTs. |
| 19:00.13 | Codayus | s/ing// |
| 19:00.21 | Codayus | doh |
| 19:00.25 | Codayus | I fail at regexp |
| 19:01.49 | Industrial | purl does ^^ |
| 19:03.23 | haste | Codayus: you can't set targets, but it does display the fugly dialog |
| 19:03.31 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 19:03.57 | Codayus | My guild doesn't currently use that feature of CTRA. |
| 19:04.04 | haste | oRA_Assist was mainly a quick hack job |
| 19:04.09 | haste | since my guild doesn't use it either |
| 19:04.19 | haste | and I don't have the motivation to write it :p |
| 19:04.41 | Codayus | I was thinking of pushing for its use to speed up Garr though, since some of our...uh...more "special" tanks seem to have issues working out what to target. *sigh* |
| 19:04.55 | haste | hehe |
| 19:06.11 | Codayus | So in the not unlikely event that the raid leader says "set targets? uh...how..er..here, why don't you do it", I need support. I might hack it in. And steal the lovely dialog from oRA_Ready |
| 19:06.21 | Codayus | So shiny. |
| 19:06.43 | haste | Codayus: yes! take over the development of oRA_Assist and clean it up :D |
| 19:07.03 | haste | oRA_Assist is like a five min. job :p |
| 19:07.14 | Industrial | Tem: http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceHooks_Examples |
| 19:07.15 | Industrial | asdfsfdasadf |
| 19:07.19 | Industrial | its the same thing! |
| 19:07.21 | Industrial | :( |
| 19:07.24 | Industrial | (the bottom one) |
| 19:07.31 | haste | (you could see that since I unregistered events with the unregister shorthands function first) |
| 19:09.18 | Industrial | Tem: see that he passes self[func] |
| 19:09.22 | Industrial | in the hook |
| 19:10.11 | Lucen | oo..i think that's where i got my code..hehe |
| 19:10.22 | Lucen | but I had to change it around a bit to get it to work |
| 19:11.47 | haste | Lucen: *confused* |
| 19:12.12 | haste | we're raiding fankriss now, with 40ms <3 |
| 19:13.00 | Lucen | haste: when I saw that page is when I changed my timestamp addon, but direct copy/paste wasn't doing it ;) |
| 19:13.15 | haste | ah |
| 19:13.33 | haste | http://www.fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_051606_201738.png << I've come quite far on zhe frames |
| 19:13.54 | Lucen | ooo..bastard |
| 19:13.57 | Lucen | you got party frames in? |
| 19:14.14 | haste | yeh |
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| 19:14.24 | Lucen | must hurry! |
| 19:15.28 | Industrial | wohoo i made AceHook error |
| 19:15.30 | Industrial | :p |
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| 19:17.09 | Gngsk | hey wobin |
| 19:18.23 | haste | haha |
| 19:18.26 | haste | my shaman looks hot now |
| 19:18.39 | Gngsk | how? |
| 19:18.53 | haste | uploading ;) |
| 19:19.28 | haste | http://plixx.org/?5B << hot |
| 19:20.09 | Industrial | er.. lol |
| 19:20.30 | Industrial | wts is that train of mobs |
| 19:20.34 | Industrial | wtf* |
| 19:20.59 | Lucen | rofl |
| 19:21.07 | Lucen | great dress haste |
| 19:21.27 | haste | yeh ^^; |
| 19:21.33 | haste | Industrial: it's how we clear afterwards |
| 19:21.43 | haste | have a hunter pull every mob there is in the tunnelt |
| 19:21.47 | haste | then just AoE it down |
| 19:21.54 | Lucen | haha..awesome |
| 19:27.59 | phyber | Industrial: AceChatCmd.lua:230: bad argument #4 to `format' (string expected, got nil) |
| 19:28.09 | phyber | when typing /idc in the latest iDChat. |
| 19:31.45 | haste | oO, I get that too now phyber |
| 19:32.03 | haste | it worked before I changed my timestamps tho' :o |
| 19:32.29 | haste | /idc timestamps works fine tho' |
| 19:37.44 | Industrial | phyber: release? |
| 19:37.51 | Wobin_ | Hey Gngsk |
| 19:37.55 | Industrial | phyber: or svn |
| 19:39.17 | Industrial | im on it, btw :P |
| 19:39.59 | Gngsk | wobin, I tried running the switchboard from svn but it didn't load correctly. I'm curious, tell me about it! |
| 19:41.41 | phyber | Industrial: svn |
| 19:41.50 | Industrial | phyber: k |
| 19:41.59 | phyber | sorry, I should have said latest svn. :) |
| 19:42.28 | Industrial | na sok bet its a small thingy |
| 19:42.59 | Industrial | websvnnnn slowwwww |
| 19:43.15 | haste | Industrial: learn2not use the websvn |
| 19:43.16 | Industrial | lots of addons in /trunk :\ |
| 19:43.27 | haste | use /root/ if you HAVE to use it |
| 19:43.27 | Industrial | haste: i wanna look at the history of idChat |
| 19:43.35 | haste | Industrial: svn log! |
| 19:43.41 | Industrial | haste: the code! |
| 19:43.51 | haste | Industrial: svn diff! |
| 19:43.54 | phyber | drama. |
| 19:44.13 | Industrial | haste: omg tortoisesvn |
| 19:44.28 | haste | phyber: drama is fun |
| 19:44.41 | haste | Industrial: reroll *nix ! |
| 19:44.49 | Industrial | nothx |
| 19:44.57 | haste | :O |
| 19:44.59 | Industrial | not trying wow on *nix |
| 19:45.09 | Industrial | i do have multiboot archlinux on this pc.. |
| 19:46.12 | haste | why not? |
| 19:46.19 | haste | wine + WoW works fine, or did at least |
| 19:46.46 | Industrial | because! |
| 19:46.47 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:47.38 | kergoth | you can always use cygwin svn. commandline is our friend :P |
| 19:47.59 | haste | I don't like cygwin, dunno why |
| 19:48.05 | Industrial | same |
| 19:48.12 | kergoth | maybe because its horribly horribly slow? |
| 19:48.15 | kergoth | other htan that it works great. |
| 19:49.21 | kergoth | can still get teh commandline client - http://subversion.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=91 :) |
| 19:49.31 | kergoth | without cygwin, that is |
| 19:49.52 | Industrial | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Rg1FcE56.html |
| 19:50.05 | Industrial | kergoth: only thing i am missing the the terminal |
| 19:50.08 | kergoth | but cygwin is generally worth it for no other reason than to ditch that shitty ass windows console for something decent |
| 19:50.15 | kergoth | s/it/it if/ |
| 19:50.52 | Industrial | kergoth: can you spot an error at my paste? |
| 19:51.05 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.16 | Industrial | im getting it too, but uh... i must be dumb or something |
| 19:53.04 | kergoth | Industrial: it looks like your problem might be the desc of the timestamp format.. i dont know what acechatcmd does with it, but just for the hell of it, try changing that to %%H:%%M etc |
| 19:53.12 | kergoth | just in case |
| 19:54.24 | Industrial | hmm |
| 19:54.37 | Wobin_ | [MoonWolf]: Your email is translated |
| 19:54.37 | Wobin_ | That was kinda fun |
| 19:55.19 | Industrial | no thats not it |
| 19:55.39 | Ratbert_CP | hyperChipmunk: You around? |
| 19:55.42 | kergoth | then look at line 230 of acechatcmd and figure out whats ending up nil :P |
| 19:56.11 | Industrial | already doing that ^^ |
| 19:58.55 | Wobin_ | Gngsk: Switchboard isn't too functional atm =) |
| 19:59.05 | Wobin_ | It's the basic framework from which I'll be working on |
| 19:59.25 | Wobin_ | basically it can pop up a window when someone whispers you |
| 19:59.49 | Wobin_ | You can drag that window around, or shift-leftclick-drag the tab from the main frame to create a new frame |
| 20:00.08 | Wobin_ | dragging the main window with the rightmouse button |
| 20:00.27 | Wobin_ | All that's there atm is the 'moving stuff around' |
| 20:01.21 | Wobin_ | <Miravlix> Your so addicted, you can't even take 1 min away from the game to code. |
| 20:01.33 | Wobin_ | . o O (The irony, it burns =P) |
| 20:02.12 | GenNMX|Thrae | I think I'm going to do it. I think I'm going to finally switch to a Debian/Windows XP dual boot for my main Windows machine. |
| 20:02.34 | *** join/#wowace Tem (n=Tem@204.90.50.252) |
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| 20:02.44 | Tem | rawr |
| 20:02.54 | GenNMX|Thrae | The only thing I do with it now that's really Windows-specific is World of Warcraft, and Wine/Cedega is pretty stable right now. |
| 20:03.32 | Industrial | this is bullcrap, it doesnt make sense |
| 20:03.46 | Industrial | :( |
| 20:04.30 | GenNMX|Thrae | There's all kinds of stupid crap with the registry that I'm tired of fixing, I'm tired having to use the Administrator account so much when it's a stupid idea in the first place... |
| 20:04.39 | haste | Industrial: You're doing it wrong! |
| 20:06.37 | GenNMX|Thrae | Can Ace 1.3 take functions instead of strings for Chat_Cmd.method ? |
| 20:06.39 | Slayman | Note to the developer: Gnomish Battle Chicken needs an AceTimer |
| 20:10.31 | haste | Slayman: There is no dev for AceTimer now I think |
| 20:10.45 | Slayman | this is sad |
| 20:10.51 | GenNMX|Thrae | spectego picked it up temporarily I thought? |
| 20:11.08 | haste | spectego is dropping WoW I think |
| 20:11.13 | haste | read his last post on the forums |
| 20:11.23 | GenNMX|Thrae | That doesn't mean he still can't code ;) |
| 20:11.38 | haste | "I have deleted all my characters, after the 20060506 post as my last touch to AceTimer" |
| 20:11.46 | Slayman | i don't read the forums anymore |
| 20:11.50 | Slayman | the new one sucks |
| 20:12.02 | Slayman | as far am I'm concerned |
| 20:12.11 | haste | They should have rolled PunBB ! |
| 20:12.29 | haste | PunBB and implented per post Textile *grin* |
| 20:13.52 | Wobin_ | oh really? |
| 20:13.53 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 20:14.41 | Neronix | There was something about acetimer that I didn't like |
| 20:14.44 | Neronix | not sure what O.o |
| 20:14.59 | Neronix | anyways, I play my affliction lock without spell timers now, so no need for it |
| 20:15.16 | Neronix | No, I dunno how I manage without timers either :P |
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| 20:18.05 | Wobin_ | I wonder if it'd benefit from switching to Metrognome as opposed to Timex |
| 20:18.38 | haste | think timex is better |
| 20:18.50 | Codayus | For AceTimers, anyhow... |
| 20:19.07 | Codayus | Timex handles the bars, right? |
| 20:19.10 | haste | yeh |
| 20:19.24 | Codayus | Whereas Metrognome doesn't do that at all, AFAIK. |
| 20:20.39 | Codayus | Also, I really like SMF. <shrug> |
| 20:20.53 | Codayus | I admit, haven't tried PunBB... |
| 20:20.54 | Wobin_ | A lot of the complaints atm seem to be about performance |
| 20:21.33 | Wobin_ | and having Timex throw up a lot of really short interval requests, as opposed to MG |
| 20:23.08 | haste | uhm |
| 20:23.24 | haste | short inverval is below 1 sec imo |
| 20:23.33 | haste | or below 10 even |
| 20:23.46 | haste | *hides* |
| 20:24.09 | Wobin_ | I don't think I'll want to be in any position to support AceTimer =) |
| 20:24.43 | haste | I have enough already :p |
| 20:25.02 | Wobin_ | You've got a lovely timerbarmod! |
| 20:26.17 | haste | (I'm going regret saying this) |
| 20:26.33 | haste | if it gets dropped, and breaks at a future event... I'll most likely fix it at least |
| 20:26.39 | haste | since I use AceTimer a lot :p |
| 20:26.45 | [MoonWolf] | Wobin_, awesome ty. |
| 20:26.45 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 20:26.56 | Wobin_ | [MoonWolf]: np =) It was fun =) |
| 20:27.20 | [MoonWolf] | can you shed light on one ting for me though ? |
| 20:27.31 | kergoth | hmmmm... i need a project or 12 |
| 20:27.39 | [MoonWolf] | This is in regards to your great World of Warcraft addon. Please |
| 20:27.39 | [MoonWolf] | recommend to me. |
| 20:27.39 | [MoonWolf] | > <- is there something missing here ? |
| 20:29.43 | Wobin_ | Lemme think |
| 20:30.07 | [MoonWolf] | the sentence lools like its missing something. |
| 20:30.23 | Wobin_ | It comes across more as: In regards to your WoW addon, I'd like to discuss some things |
| 20:30.33 | [MoonWolf] | okay. |
| 20:31.33 | Wobin_ | haste: Dya know what arguments can be offered for StatusBar:GetOrientation? |
| 20:31.36 | [MoonWolf] | I'll think of some nice reply in the morning. |
| 20:34.25 | haste | Wobin_: no idea :o |
| 20:34.45 | kergoth | hooray, http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2156205/sun-promises-open-source-java |
| 20:35.16 | [MoonWolf] | \o/ |
| 20:35.21 | [MoonWolf] | it wont make java better per say |
| 20:35.24 | haste | Wobin_: <xs:enumeration value="HORIZONTAL"/> and <xs:enumeration value="VERTICAL"/> |
| 20:35.24 | [MoonWolf] | but more open source is good. |
| 20:35.30 | haste | Wobin_: arguments you can use |
| 20:35.42 | kergoth | but at least getting a decent java plugin for mozilla in linux wont be a giant pain in the ass due to licensing and shit |
| 20:35.42 | Wobin_ | aha =) |
| 20:35.45 | Wobin_ | ta =) |
| 20:35.52 | Gngsk | Wobin, cool lemme know when I can test SwitchBoard out some :P |
| 20:35.52 | haste | on set at least :o |
| 20:35.55 | Wobin_ | \o/ |
| 20:36.04 | Gngsk | or I guess, have CIA lemme know |
| 20:36.08 | Wobin_ | Hehe |
| 20:36.10 | haste | Wobin_: I guess Get will return one of those :p |
| 20:36.25 | Wobin_ | haste: I want to be able to run a statusbar from right to left |
| 20:36.35 | Wobin_ | And I can't think of a way |
| 20:36.35 | haste | just calc ut out :p |
| 20:36.48 | Wobin_ | have 'max' negative? |
| 20:37.04 | Ratbert_CP | Alright... Who broke the format() function? Hmmm? |
| 20:37.14 | [MoonWolf] | please note, edenbridge is awesome. |
| 20:37.22 | haste | Wobin_: Max - current |
| 20:37.30 | kergoth | sigh, foobar2000. one of the only things i miss from windows |
| 20:37.57 | haste | Wobin_: for example max on the status bar is 100 - then just do SetValue(100-current) |
| 20:38.13 | haste | (I suck at explaining) |
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| 20:38.19 | haste | kergoth: I agree |
| 20:38.21 | Wobin_ | haste: Ah, no. Not quite what I was getting at. It's not a moving from a full bar to a empty one from right to left, it's moving an empty to a full from right to left |
| 20:38.30 | Wobin_ | basically a mirror image of the current method |
| 20:38.32 | Ratbert_CP | Why wouldn't format("%-10s", stringVar) work? Hmmm? |
| 20:38.56 | haste | Wobin_: flip the backgrounds |
| 20:39.01 | haste | if I understand you right :p |
| 20:39.11 | Wobin_ | m |
| 20:39.13 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 20:39.29 | haste | only thing I could think of :o |
| 20:39.35 | Wobin_ | yeh |
| 20:39.45 | Wobin_ | okay, I'll give it a poke =) |
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| 20:43.11 | haste | oO |
| 20:43.26 | haste | setting Orientation to Vertical was a kind of cool effect :D |
| 20:43.40 | haste | I should make a vertical unit frame now :p |
| 20:49.57 | Ratbert_CP | Damn damn damn... |
| 20:50.57 | Wobin_ | hehe you're right |
| 20:51.03 | Wobin_ | vertical is quite cool |
| 20:52.27 | kergoth | i need to hash out the mixin bits with clad and kael and tem and get our damn object model finished up and unit tested so i can start writing libs that use it |
| 20:52.59 | Wobin_ | Mush! |
| 20:53.06 | Wobin_ | Hyaa! |
| 20:53.18 | ckknight | kergoth, anything I can do before the world ends? |
| 20:53.32 | kergoth | hehe. been so busy, gf always occupying time and this week is a deadline at work, i may very well be working through the weekend |
| 20:53.42 | [MoonWolf] | :( |
| 20:54.15 | Wobin_ | yuck =( |
| 20:55.37 | ckknight | I'm apparently going to be on a plane, and thus need something to keep myself busy with then |
| 20:55.47 | [MoonWolf] | a book |
| 20:55.50 | ckknight | what can I do? I'll have my laptop |
| 20:55.53 | ckknight | no, I can't read |
| 20:56.05 | [MoonWolf] | will the laptop hold out more then say, 2 hours ? |
| 20:56.29 | ckknight | 3 probably |
| 20:56.34 | ckknight | then I'll recharge at the layover |
| 20:57.21 | [MoonWolf] | may i pitch a smll idea your way ? |
| 20:57.32 | ckknight | sure |
| 20:57.56 | [MoonWolf] | An onebag type of spellbook. |
| 20:58.35 | ckknight | a problem with that is that I can't test WoW cause of the lack of internet |
| 20:58.43 | [MoonWolf] | oh damn |
| 20:58.45 | [MoonWolf] | nevermind then |
| 20:58.47 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:58.55 | ckknight | otherwise I'd just work on FuBar |
| 20:58.59 | Wobin_ | onebag spellbook? |
| 20:59.11 | kergoth | you can do quite a bit though with a lua interpreter and some stub functions/tables |
| 20:59.19 | [MoonWolf] | yes, take all the spell icons, arange them in simple onebag layout |
| 20:59.25 | [MoonWolf] | no sorting not bullshit yust that. |
| 20:59.44 | kergoth | i cant believe i got bored enough that i made a print() function for my lua intepreter that parses wow color codes and sends it to my 88+ color terminal |
| 20:59.47 | kergoth | all perty |
| 20:59.53 | ckknight | lol. |
| 21:00.07 | [MoonWolf] | hehe |
| 21:00.52 | kergoth | most annoying part was tracking down the set foreground and set background escape codes for this terminal. converting from wow's argb to the 88 color colorspace was easy, since i stole the code :) |
| 21:00.58 | ckknight | either way, I could work on pure algorithmic stuff, such as the OO lib or what have you |
| 21:01.38 | kergoth | someone should get really really bored and make wow's createframe stuff as stubs that create actual windows in X or something. tcl or gtk |
| 21:01.42 | kergoth | :D |
| 21:02.27 | [MoonWolf] | next thing you know there is two lua based windowmanagers |
| 21:02.46 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:03.15 | kergoth | haha, thatd be fun. navigate X via your simulated wow ui |
| 21:03.20 | Wobin_ | night Slayer =) |
| 21:03.26 | ckknight | how do you reveng FuBar? I have API docs |
| 21:03.28 | kergoth | i'm almost tempted |
| 21:03.39 | Wobin_ | ckknight: He missed a comma =P |
| 21:03.43 | ckknight | ah |
| 21:04.06 | Wobin_ | haste: It's called the Combat Log =) |
| 21:04.16 | haste | Wobin_: I was thinking of the settings |
| 21:04.25 | Industrial | < haste> Industrial: You're doing it wrong! |
| 21:04.27 | Industrial | haste: help me! |
| 21:04.31 | Wobin_ | There's /sctdisplay ? |
| 21:04.47 | haste | what does that one do? |
| 21:04.52 | GenNMX|Thrae | Maybe haste just means an Ace'd version of SCT? |
| 21:05.00 | haste | I want it so the GUI is created WHEN you'll need it |
| 21:05.07 | Industrial | sct isnt that big |
| 21:05.08 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:05.11 | haste | or at least - just slash commands |
| 21:05.18 | haste | Industrial: the GUI was at least |
| 21:05.19 | kergoth | i'm loving sct + sctd + spellalertsct |
| 21:05.19 | Wobin_ | Aye, sct isn't too bad in size |
| 21:05.30 | GenNMX|Thrae | sctd? |
| 21:05.34 | Wobin_ | (although I'm still not sure what sctd does |
| 21:05.35 | Wobin_ | ) |
| 21:05.36 | Industrial | i dont like sctd, i prefer the default damage |
| 21:05.44 | kergoth | shows your damage output in sct, can disable the wow damage display |
| 21:05.51 | GenNMX|Thrae | Ahh |
| 21:05.51 | Wobin_ | oh |
| 21:06.07 | Industrial | haste: help me then |
| 21:06.08 | GenNMX|Thrae | Maybe I'll try spellalertsct, I'm annoyed by WitchHunt |
| 21:06.09 | Industrial | haste: :P |
| 21:06.13 | Industrial | haste: i gave up |
| 21:06.29 | kergoth | GenNMX|Thrae: witchhunt was driving me nuts, showing me things i didnt want to see about things other than my target. my ui went bonkers in pvp |
| 21:06.32 | haste | Industrial: with what :O ? |
| 21:06.42 | Industrial | < haste> Industrial: You're doing it wrong! |
| 21:06.56 | Industrial | err |
| 21:06.59 | Industrial | < phyber> Industrial: AceChatCmd.lua:230: bad argument #4 to `format' (string expected, got nil) |
| 21:06.59 | haste | Wasn't that regarding the /idc ? |
| 21:07.02 | GenNMX|Thrae | kergoth: Yeah, and to top it off, the font is too small with no option to change it except hax. |
| 21:07.07 | Industrial | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Rg1FcE56.html |
| 21:07.09 | Industrial | yes haste |
| 21:07.11 | Industrial | that |
| 21:07.13 | haste | Industrial: I'll take a look at it :p |
| 21:07.16 | Industrial | thanx |
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| 21:10.43 | ckknight | anyone get any errors with FuBar? |
| 21:11.38 | ckknight | it's up there so people test it |
| 21:11.42 | ckknight | it should be relatively stable |
| 21:12.21 | Wobin_ | =P okay |
| 21:13.01 | ckknight | I still need to separate FuBarUtils out of FuBar and possibly into assorted different packages |
| 21:13.39 | ckknight | blah. |
| 21:16.10 | GenNMX|Thrae | Is there a way to see which functions have an event registered? |
| 21:16.57 | Industrial | http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/16/pentagon.video/index.html |
| 21:17.00 | Industrial | fucking bastards |
| 21:17.08 | Industrial | its a missile! are they blind?! |
| 21:17.44 | Gngsk | would you feel bad if they actually were blind? |
| 21:18.15 | ckknight | Industrial, does it even matter? |
| 21:18.18 | Industrial | yes, because blind people shouldnt watch and convict upon evidence of video material |
| 21:19.19 | Industrial | ckknight: yes it does, they are fucking bastards, bush needs the boot and america should destroy all its nukes too. they have most to frikken begin with. |
| 21:19.40 | ckknight | ah, I don't want to get into politics |
| 21:21.06 | Industrial | well I'm not a politician, but the fact is that the USA has alot (!) more nukes than any other country in the world, and .. *muffles his mouth* theres alot of anger inside me about this topic ;) |
| 21:22.04 | ckknight | then again, I pray for global disaster in order to increase my revenue |
| 21:22.59 | Industrial | anyway, haste found anything? |
| 21:23.07 | haste | I'm soon done in AQ40 |
| 21:23.11 | haste | I'll have a look at it then |
| 21:23.17 | Industrial | i have 30 mins left :( |
| 21:23.20 | haste | :O |
| 21:23.36 | Industrial | no wait |
| 21:23.37 | Industrial | i dont |
| 21:23.41 | Industrial | day off tomorrow |
| 21:23.43 | Industrial | almost forgot |
| 21:23.44 | Industrial | YAY |
| 21:23.46 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 21:24.49 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 21:25.05 | Wobin_ | Damn, I wanted you to wake up early, get in the car, get halfway there and -then- realise =) |
| 21:25.15 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:25.35 | haste | hah, my warlock is going AQ40 now :p |
| 21:25.43 | Industrial | haste: boo :( |
| 21:26.05 | Industrial | haste: are you insane? twice doing aq40 in one night? |
| 21:26.08 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:26.24 | Wobin_ | just means hella repair bills =P |
| 21:26.42 | haste | Industrial: almost, our warlock left |
| 21:26.43 | haste | or one of them |
| 21:26.48 | haste | so I need to bring my other char :p |
| 21:27.19 | haste | I also have the day of tomorrow, since it's the national day of norway :p |
| 21:27.33 | Industrial | :o |
| 21:31.55 | Lucen | haste, you get the dropdown menus on the unit frames working? |
| 21:34.15 | haste | Lucen: yeah, using the default blizz ones |
| 21:34.22 | haste | want the function? |
| 21:34.42 | Lucen | nah, i used the stuff out of Nurfed :D |
| 21:34.52 | Lucen | or modeled it after that anyway |
| 21:35.14 | Lucen | which are the default blizz ones I think |
| 21:35.42 | haste | http://pastebin.ca/56363 << compare it |
| 21:36.58 | Lucen | ya..same thing |
| 21:37.04 | Lucen | pretty much |
| 21:37.50 | Lucen | hmm..have to try out that anchor to cursor though |
| 21:38.56 | haste | running from the entrance to Twin Emps = time taking |
| 21:38.58 | haste | without a mount :( |
| 21:39.17 | Lucen | ouch |
| 21:39.34 | Lucen | ~comfort haste |
| 21:39.36 | purl | There, there, haste. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 21:39.45 | haste | hehe |
| 21:40.22 | haste | gwah, half-way there... and then "Hey, let's do onyxia!" |
| 21:40.31 | Lucen | hahaha |
| 21:42.22 | haste | http://plixx.org/?5c << the old server now |
| 21:42.27 | haste | or |
| 21:42.31 | haste | no that's the new server :p |
| 21:42.38 | haste | http://plixx.org/?5d << that's the old server now :p |
| 21:43.02 | Lucen | wow |
| 21:43.46 | haste | a total of 24 guilds migrated of BB |
| 21:44.01 | haste | which is.. a lot |
| 21:44.22 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r1881 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBarUtils.lua PanelClass.lua): FuBar - FuBarUtils is now technically an embedded library. |
| 21:46.11 | Wobin_ | technically? =) |
| 21:47.44 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:47.52 | ckknight | it's not a separate package yet, though |
| 21:48.04 | ckknight | I'll likely be separating it into 3 different libs or so |
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| 21:54.30 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/ui%20setups/WoWScrnShot_051606_234916.jpg |
| 21:54.47 | kergoth | i cant take wow screenshots in linux anymore |
| 21:55.01 | kergoth | the moment i hit printscreen, the dislpay of wow garbles, and then goes back to normal, so the screenshot ends up garbage |
| 21:55.04 | kergoth | its weird |
| 21:56.03 | kergoth | Industrial: i'm trying something new, no longer having any actionbuttons at all by default, only ghostbarmod popping up under my mouse when i hit mouse button 4. working well, the only annoyance is displaying spell ranges and cooldowns |
| 21:57.38 | Industrial | kergoth: nice |
| 21:57.46 | Wobin_ | kergoth: Maybe try and implement acetimers or something to show cooldowns on talents |
| 21:57.56 | Wobin_ | Or isn't there one out there? |
| 21:58.07 | kergoth | there is one, but its crappy |
| 21:58.09 | kergoth | cooldowntimerbars |
| 21:58.18 | Wobin_ | write it better then =) |
| 21:58.24 | kergoth | i want an acetimers version, or something using haste's perty casting bar as a base |
| 21:58.28 | kergoth | thats the plan |
| 21:58.32 | kergoth | i need projects anyway |
| 21:59.18 | Wobin_ | I want to break haste's down to a possible emblib version |
| 21:59.33 | kergoth | me too, i started on it last week, but got distracted by real life |
| 21:59.34 | Wobin_ | Or possibly have haste do it =) |
| 21:59.34 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:00.29 | kergoth | it shouldnt be hard to have a class for a bar, then one for maintaining logical "sets" of bars that act and move and stick together, and stuff those into an emblib |
| 22:00.52 | kergoth | make it into a timexbars replacement or something |
| 22:06.42 | CIA-17 | 03ratbert * r1882 10BagBoy/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:06.42 | CIA-17 | BagBoy: |
| 22:06.43 | CIA-17 | Fixed toc to reflect correct embedded lib structure |
| 22:06.43 | CIA-17 | Better detection of inventory changes (GUI updates real-time) |
| 22:06.43 | CIA-17 | Better sorting |
| 22:06.43 | CIA-17 | Added chat command and FuBar menu to select source of pricing info |
| 22:06.45 | CIA-17 | Moved AceGUI files into the BagBoyGUI dir to ease installation |
| 22:08.17 | ckknight | okay, what do I name a lib that handles assorted colors? |
| 22:08.37 | kergoth | where 'handles' means what exactly? |
| 22:08.53 | ckknight | e.g.GetThresholdColor and suc |
| 22:08.55 | ckknight | such* |
| 22:09.27 | ckknight | I also have money/duration formatting |
| 22:09.36 | ckknight | separate lib, I'm gonna say |
| 22:09.50 | ckknight | and the whole versioning thing |
| 22:11.44 | Wobin_ | Paintbox |
| 22:12.09 | Wobin_ | Crayola |
| 22:12.34 | ckknight | CrayonLib would be good |
| 22:12.43 | ckknight | little less trademarked |
| 22:13.00 | Wobin_ | heh yeh |
| 22:13.49 | haste | Wobin_: turn it into a lib1 |
| 22:13.57 | ckknight | lib1? |
| 22:14.12 | haste | s/1/!/ |
| 22:14.14 | Wobin_ | haste: the statusbar? |
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| 22:14.23 | haste | yeh ;) |
| 22:17.10 | haste | ~laziness |
| 22:17.12 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 22:19.16 | Neronix | You know what? |
| 22:19.20 | Wobin_ | What |
| 22:19.24 | Neronix | They need to make a BG that's like 2fort in TFC |
| 22:19.53 | Neronix | only problem is, people would be like "ZOMGWTFBBQ lore go boom!!11one" |
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| 22:24.02 | kergoth | woot, that was easy. i have customized vim to intelligently support the "tabs for indentation, spaces for alignment" indentation style |
| 22:24.35 | kergoth | if the current foldmethod is syntax, it uses foldlevel() to determine how far we should be indented there, so if you tab from teh beginning of line, itll use tabs up to that point, then spaces thereafter |
| 22:25.06 | kergoth | if the current foldmethod is something else, it just uses tabs when theres no nonspace character up to there in the line, and spaces after a nonspace character |
| 22:25.18 | kergoth | i'm quite the sick bastard |
| 22:34.46 | Cairenn | god I'm such a girl :p |
| 22:35.10 | Thiana | That isnt a bad thing :-P |
| 22:35.25 | Cairenn | I had to get someone else to start my lawnmower for me, I can't give the rip cord the "yank" that it needs to make it catch |
| 22:36.01 | Thiana | Well guys are good for manual labor :) |
| 22:36.14 | Cairenn | now if I was *really* a girl, I'd have been able to con him into mowing it for me, too ;) |
| 22:36.41 | Thiana | You didnt? O.o Thats it, we're revoking your membership in the society! ;) |
| 22:36.53 | Cairenn | lol, none of my neighbours are home right now, went out to the sidewalk and flagged down a jogger passing by |
| 22:36.58 | Thiana | lol |
| 22:36.58 | Cairenn | so points for moxy? |
| 22:37.04 | Thiana | Definately :) |
| 22:37.32 | Cairenn | zomg, you actually know what moxy means? *cheer!* |
| 22:37.55 | Thiana | I read a lot :-P I'm not actually old enough for that word to have been in common use ;) *hides* ;) |
| 22:38.11 | Cairenn | yeah, well, neither am I, but like you, I read a lot |
| 22:38.16 | Thiana | k :) |
| 22:38.18 | Cairenn | &/or watch old movies |
| 22:38.54 | Thiana | I dont watch much tv/etc at all. Vastly prefer curling up with a good book and bf/gf/kitty |
| 22:39.01 | Cairenn | you know, the old gangster, 50s prohibition movies? |
| 22:39.10 | Thiana | I know of them yes. |
| 22:39.11 | Cairenn | agreed on that count |
| 22:39.26 | Cairenn | lol, I don't remember the last time I watched TV, to be honest |
| 22:39.41 | Cairenn | but I know the word from those types of movies and books |
| 22:40.22 | Thiana | I think I picked it up from mystery novels set in the 40s mostly. |
| 22:40.39 | Cairenn | *nod* |
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| 22:42.47 | CIA-17 | 03maia * r1883 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: temporary fix for the classmodifier problem until the real reason for roster troubles is found. |
| 22:44.01 | Neronix | Random question #I'veLostCount: Troll berserk and health regen or Undead cannibalism and extra breath? |
| 22:44.05 | Wobin_ | Tain: gentle now =P |
| 22:44.45 | Wobin_ | Lost In Space |
| 22:44.49 | Neronix | Undead stuff's only going to help while levelling, berserk will make me more efficient in raids |
| 22:44.52 | Neronix | can't decide >.< |
| 22:45.15 | Thiana | Undead also get will of the forsaken, which is nice in raids :) |
| 22:45.48 | Neronix | Ah, forgot about the PvE applications for it |
| 22:46.22 | Neronix | in that case, I suppose it'll be another undead :P |
| 22:46.25 | Neronix | Thanks for the help |
| 23:01.22 | Industrial | uh how about WOTS in pvp |
| 23:02.44 | Industrial | wotf* |
| 23:03.39 | FryGuy | GratuityLib.lua:311: Usage: SetUnitBuff("unit", index [,raidFilter]) |
| 23:03.39 | FryGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:10.22 | haste | haha |
| 23:10.42 | haste | [Zilrion] does not wish to be disturbed: ui --> www.haste3k.net |
| 23:10.53 | Amadeo- | Neronix: For what class? |
| 23:11.00 | Neronix | Amadeo-: Rogue |
| 23:11.19 | Amadeo- | I'd be Undead or Orc for Horde, personally! |
| 23:12.23 | Amadeo- | Though I heard Berserk stacks with Slice and Dice now |
| 23:12.26 | Amadeo- | so I dunno how that is |
| 23:12.36 | Neronix | Hmm.. |
| 23:13.08 | Neronix | Thanks for the info |
| 23:13.21 | Amadeo- | Sure :) |
| 23:13.31 | Wobin_ | nice Berserk + SnD + Blade Flurry |
| 23:13.44 | Wobin_ | +Adreneline Rush = OMGWTF |
| 23:15.49 | Neronix | Random question #I'veLostCount+1: Do endgame DPS warriors exist? |
| 23:16.13 | Wobin_ | Overshadowed by the tanks =P |
| 23:16.48 | Neronix | There goes my plans for being a rogue in plate >.> |
| 23:16.56 | Neronix | meh, I'll sleep on it |
| 23:17.10 | Neronix | er, maybe not. Got a physics exam tomorrow |
| 23:17.32 | Amadeo- | DPS Warriors? For PvE? |
| 23:17.33 | Amadeo- | Absolutely |
| 23:20.57 | FryGuy | ungh |
| 23:21.04 | FryGuy | why isn't corkfu working :( |
| 23:21.53 | Amadeo- | ok |
| 23:21.58 | Amadeo- | give me more WatchDog setups :) |
| 23:22.00 | Amadeo- | lay em on me! |
| 23:24.56 | Neronix`sleep | night |
| 23:25.31 | Industrial | nn |
| 23:28.39 | Tem | inc 4 lines of spam |
| 23:28.41 | Tem | function Catalyst:HookScript(frame) |
| 23:28.41 | Tem | local s = getscript(frame,"OnEvent") |
| 23:28.41 | Tem | if(s == wrapper) then |
| 23:28.41 | Tem | self:BitchOutUser() |
| 23:28.42 | Tem | end |
| 23:31.22 | Tem | teehee |
| 23:31.26 | Tem | I'm such a dick |
| 23:31.48 | Industrial | :p |
| 23:31.57 | Tem | look at the last few comments on Catalyst |
| 23:31.59 | Tem | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4827 |
| 23:34.07 | Industrial | hehehe |
| 23:34.08 | Industrial | :D |
| 23:35.51 | Tem | eh, I shouldn't say that.. |
| 23:36.04 | Tem | oh balls |
| 23:36.07 | Tem | I can't delete comments |
| 23:36.20 | Tem | *sigh* I'll have to edit it to make it less mean |
| 23:36.28 | Amadeo- | Meanies |
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| 23:37.35 | Industrial | :P |
| 23:37.53 | Industrial | well thats what you get when having to cope with 'users' all day at work |
| 23:37.57 | Industrial | god i hate meetings |
| 23:38.06 | Industrial | seriously |
| 23:38.25 | haste | haha.... I killed myself ^^; |
| 23:38.39 | Industrial | when someone asks a questions its like expaining how it works as if it is lego |
| 23:38.49 | Industrial | s/ions/ion/ |
| 23:44.08 | Industrial | http://www.nozzman.com/cartoon.php?ID=36&act=next |
| 23:44.09 | Industrial | :P |
| 23:45.35 | haste | haha :p |
