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00:01.20*** part/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@adsl-71-147-10-6.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net)
00:02.56KyahxTime to slay some dargons
00:04.22CodayusWell, true I suppose.
00:04.33CodayusMost are pretty complex though.  :-)
00:04.41Kyahx|raidinghehe
00:06.39Kyahx|raidingMy first toon was a rogue, then I got bored and decided that instead of useing 2-3 skills on a single target, I would use 2-3 skills on 39 targets.
00:06.41Kyahx|raidingyay for priests
00:06.41Mikmabooooooring, i think i may consider sleeping soon
00:07.18Mikmapriest is pretty good i must say
00:07.31Mikmai've played alot with it and still haven't got bored with it
00:07.46Mikmawell, i did with holy but now i'm SHADOW! :D
00:07.48Kyahx|raidingif you get sick of healing you can alway go pew pew pew
00:07.52Kyahx|raidinglol
00:08.14Kyahx|raidingI was shadow for a good 8 months, PvE shadow none the less
00:08.25Kyahx|raidingmelting face in MC =P
00:08.43Mikmai was shadow too with my first mc-raiding guild
00:08.54Mikmai was OOC resser with my laggy comp
00:08.57Kyahx|raidinglol
00:09.17Kyahx|raidingnow im holy pew pew pew, lol
00:09.27Kyahx|raidingI couldnt give up dmg =P
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00:10.03Mikmaholy nova for all!
00:10.57pagefaultpfft
00:11.01pagefaultshadow priests = wannabe warlocks
00:11.02pagefault:)
00:11.45pagefaultyou are a healbot! accept it!
00:11.49pagefaulthehe
00:11.53Mikmawell i eat locks for breakfast :P
00:12.06Mikmaatleast the sucky ones on nord-horde
00:12.12Kyahx|raidinghow about a 1455 non-crit smite on a player =P
00:12.15Kyahx|raidinghows that for healbott
00:12.22Amadeo_I dunno
00:12.25Kyahx|raidinghehe
00:12.33pagefaultI got smited once I wondered wtf it was
00:12.34Amadeo_if I spent 30 minutes on a class, I pretty much can figure it out just as well as anyone
00:12.59pagefaulthardly see any holy priests in pvp doing any attacking on my server
00:13.19Kyahx|raidingI've had a smite crit for 2790  O.O
00:13.48pagefaultI hate pallys so much
00:14.04pagefaultnot because they are hard, but just because they refuse to die
00:14.11Amadeo_Akama crashed again
00:14.15Amadeo_what a bullshit server
00:14.32pagefaultdrives me crazy when I get them down to like 30 hp
00:14.34pagefaultthen up goes the bubble
00:15.42Mikmahttp://www.wowguru.com/gallery/view/1366.jpg
00:16.06pagefaultthats pretty nice
00:16.08pagefaultwhere did it come from
00:16.20pagefaultoh thats expansion
00:16.40Mikmayeap
00:16.57pagefaultmakes me wonder wtf people are going to do with all their teir * stuff when level 70 comes out
00:17.04pagefaultpretty much MC/BWL etc will become farms?
00:17.46pagefaultthe level 61+ gear better be damn good if it's going to be better than what you can get at 60 now
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00:20.26Tem_DAMNIT
00:20.27NeronixWell, seems tanking's a lot more fun than I expected it to be
00:21.06NeronixTime to bring that lv12 warrior alt out of premature retirement :P
00:22.13Mikmasorry for this url, it's long:
00:22.14Mikmahttp://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/priest/talents.html?50023213052000000555130202005000000000000000000
00:22.23Mikmasmiter-build :P
00:22.27Kyahx|raidingicky, use wowhead's talent builder
00:22.56Mikmai always forget the address :D
00:23.22Neronixno talent calculator works properly with opera :'(
00:23.33Kyahx|raidingbah, thats no smiter build, I'll show you my build
00:24.50Kyahx|raidingthis is what I use: http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?dxg0smVVorxt0cb
00:25.06Kyahx|raidingyou could drop some healing talents for smite range and stuff, but it works for me =P
00:26.36Mikmawell i can't live without extrastrong pw:s :P
00:30.16Kaeltenhiya
00:31.56Mikmahiya, and byeya, i'm off to bed :)
00:32.38hyperChipmunkheyo kael
00:37.39Kaeltennight mika
00:37.41Kaeltenhey chip
00:37.53Kaeltenwell I've sucessfully reduced svn to a easy ftp prog :)
00:45.07snurrehttp://community.livejournal.com/wtf_inc/2748958.html#comments
00:45.17snurremay I say that I think that was a rather bad choice of theme?
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00:54.05gnorlishi have an addon-unspecific question
00:54.17gnorlishthat i can't figure out
00:54.32gnorlishso i'm MLing in MC just fine
00:54.40gnorlishand then suddenly after a death
00:54.52gnorlishi'm bugged and can see the sparkles and loot bag, but the bag stays black
00:55.00gnorlishand if someone logs on my char they can ML fine
00:57.22Kyahx|raidingdon't let MLers die
00:57.27Kyahx|raidingits bugs out
00:57.33gnorlishnever happened before
00:57.39gnorlishalthough i don't die very often really
00:57.58Wobinhehe
00:58.06WobinQuick! DI the ML!
00:58.06gnorlishwould a full game restart fix it
00:58.58snurreif you can't loot, try relogging
00:59.02snurreif not, submit ticket about it
00:59.36gnorlishsomeone logged my acct
00:59.38gnorlishand looted
00:59.40snurrebe sure to include time of death and who was ML (the ML should be the one submitting ticket anyhow though)
00:59.45snurreok, good
00:59.50gnorlishit's just my computer that went retarded
01:00.00snurresaves a random GM some sucky work :p
01:22.07pagefaultstuck?
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02:30.16Tekcuberf
02:45.51CIA-1703maia * r2217 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: much better logic for displaying emergency units. hopefully fixed all unit frame bugs.
02:51.11hyperChipmunkoif
02:52.15Tekcubgod, nerds...
02:52.24Tekcubhow do they end an interview?...
02:52.30TekcubGS: Well, you don't hire Woody Allen to do a Warcraft movie.
02:52.30TekcubPS: No. No, you don't.
02:52.30TekcubGS: That's my only advice.
02:52.30TekcubPS: Thank you. I appreciate that.
02:53.29Tekcubmaia, I think I have my unitID iterator working, need to doublecheck then I can (maybe) push out the lib
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03:10.58Wobinhm
03:11.17WobinHave to figure out a jostle algorithm to make layout more snapto
03:11.44cladhaireO.o
03:11.45cladhairefor what?
03:11.49WobinPlowKing
03:12.34hyperChipmunkyou need to release plowking today
03:12.38cladhaireWhat is plowking?
03:12.49hyperChipmunkthe holy grail
03:12.53WobinMy EngInv =)
03:12.57hyperChipmunkthe attempt at the impossible
03:13.01cladhaireWobin: Nice.
03:13.11cladhaireare you talking snap-to with dragging frames and having them snap to other frames?
03:13.24WobinThat too
03:13.30cladhaireno seriously
03:13.33cladhaireis that what you mean
03:13.37cladhairelike frame docking?
03:13.37TainIf only someone had already done that.
03:13.42cladhaire*gasp*
03:13.42WobinAlthough I'd like it to originally rearrange as well
03:13.43cladhairei think they have
03:13.47TainLies!
03:13.57Wobin(I'm going to borrow wholesale from you on the snapto, Clad =P)
03:13.58cladhairehttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4674
03:14.13cladhairejust use the embed =)\
03:14.33WobinIf I drop a whole series of frames on it, will it try to spread them out to all show?
03:14.44cladhaire*shake*
03:14.46Wobink
03:14.50cladhairethis will handle the click-drag-docking.
03:14.54cladhaireWatchDog does it.. if you need an example
03:14.56cladhairejust /wdog showall
03:15.00cladhaireand move them around using alt-click
03:15.19clad|sleepi should have been sleeping hours ago
03:15.21clad|sleepnight all
03:15.21TainWatchDog is such a voyeur.  Showall indeed.
03:15.30Wobinbetter than MountMe =P
03:15.57TainThat's a whole different area.
03:16.17WobinPS MountMe keybinding? Hazzit been fixed?
03:19.12Tekcubno, I need to :P
03:26.20CodayusI fixed it...
03:26.24CodayusI could commit it, I guess.
03:26.25Codayus<shrug>
03:28.08Kyahx|raidingbah
03:28.18Kyahx|raidingcan we find a way to cure server lag?
03:28.20Kyahx|raidingdo that
03:28.22Kyahx|raiding=(
03:29.41CodayusHmm.
03:30.00CodayusFuBar-compat-1.0\FuBar-compat-1.0.lua:3413:attempt to index a nil value
03:30.07CodayusAnyknow know what'd be causing that?
03:31.35Tekcubindexing a nil is, lern2read
03:32.06Tekcuband yea, please do commit Cod, my works are all open
03:32.25TekcubI can't keep up with all of you whiners, I tank any help I can get :P
03:32.26CodayusTekcub: :-(
03:35.15CIA-1703codayus * r2218 10MountMe/ (Bindings.xml Core.lua): MountMe - Seems to fix the broken keybind issue.
03:36.31WobinCodayus: And that bug could be due to AceWardrobeFu not being updated =P
03:36.33WobinI think
03:39.20WobinWell... that's interesting.
03:39.28WobinI appear to be spontaneously un-afking
03:51.08CodayusHmm, I /reloaded by ui and my screen went black...
03:51.17Codayusuh...that's...not good...is it...
03:52.07Kaeltenhow can you tell which user is running a program in linux?
03:52.07Kyahx|raidingSo I used Visor to rip the squishy bars off of the background and plop them onto the UIParent
03:52.18Kyahx|raidingI think we need a "no background" option in Squishy
03:52.21Kyahx|raidingit looks nice
03:53.53Kyahx|raidingTek, is there a good way to see which modual is currnetly loaded by BigWigs?
03:54.55Kyahx|raiding=(
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04:04.14tekkuboro?
04:10.09Kyahx|raidingn/m
04:13.23CIA-1703tekkub * r2219 10PeriodicTable/Core/PTEmbed.lua:
04:13.23CIA-17PeriodicTable
04:13.23CIA-17<PROTECTED>
04:26.31Temow!
04:26.34Tem15g for a full repair
04:27.08Kyahx|raidingbe glad you arent fully repairing for the second time =P
04:27.32Temmeh PTR, I don't care about my gold
04:27.37Temjust.. damn
04:27.42Temthat's a lot of gold
04:27.47Kyahx|raiding=(  not PTR,  I care
04:27.50Kyahx|raidinglol
04:27.59Temwhat are you raiding?
04:29.16Tainheh 15g is a lot, but you should have seen when we were learning MC for the first time (back when everyone was learning MC for the first time)
04:29.38Temyeah, learning an instance gets expensive
04:29.49TainOh and there wasn't a repair vendor in the zone if you released.
04:30.03TainAlmost forgot about that.
04:30.09Temew, repair bots are a "new" thing
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04:34.03WobinI hate using forward slashes when it expects backslashes
04:34.46WobinAnd not realising it cause the library is loaded elsewhere
04:36.40tekkubanyone know any ultra-lean IM programs that'll do Yahho, Jabber, AIM and maybe MSN?
04:36.53tekkubI don't want any extra bullshit, just basic text IMs
04:37.20tekkubgtalk hates the yahoo transport, and sadly I do kinda still need yahoo
04:37.30TainI only use Linux versions.  I know Trillian is popular for Windows but don't know what all it does.
04:39.17tekkubI've used Trill for a long time, it's come to suffer the same old bloatware fate all of the IM clients do
04:39.37tekkubI want somethis microscopic in comparison
04:40.26TainDamn them!
04:48.31snurrecreate one
04:48.34snurreyou are the geeks
04:48.41snurreget to work damnit!
04:54.52snurreno clue
05:05.08hyperChipmunkyou don't like gaim?
05:05.42hyperChipmunkWobin: I did that with BulkMail
05:05.57Wobintekkub: Gaim is quite good
05:06.57tekkubyea, toying with it now
05:06.57hasteTem: I get 12g in orgri without yellow gear :<
05:07.04hyperChipmunkr2156 | hyperactiveChipmunk | 2006-05-28 13:03:29 -0400 (Sun, 28 May 2006) | 3 lines
05:07.07hyperChipmunkBulkMail:
05:07.08hyperChipmunk- .toc fixed for Metrognome embed...lousy DOS backslashes.../mutter
05:07.33Temhaste: that's the price you pay for having really nice mail gear
05:07.40Temyay.  done backing up
05:07.46hastemy shaman doesn't have much mail ;D
05:07.51hastethree items I think
05:08.01hastethe rest is cloth / leather
05:08.08hyperChipmunkyou don't say
05:08.09Temlol  @ you
05:08.40Temk, I'm out.. be back in a few hours
05:33.03Codayus?
05:33.05CodayusOh.
05:33.13CodayusFuBar-compat-1.0\FuBar-compat-1.0.lua:3413:attempt to index a nil value
05:33.19CodayusPossibly related to QuestFu
05:33.44CodayusUsing current svn version
05:35.39Wobinhehe
05:35.53WobinThis is like playing with lego
05:36.18Wobinbtw, ckknight I get
05:36.19Wobin[13:29-1447] ...e\FuBar\FuBar-compat-1.0\FuBar-compat-1.0.lua:159: attempt to index global `FuBarTooltip' (a nil value)
05:36.20Wobin<PROTECTED>
05:36.20Wobin[13:29-1447] Cannot find library instance with version '1.0'
05:36.20Wobin<PROTECTED>
05:36.20Wobin[13:29-1447] ...ace\FuBar\FuBarPlugin-1.2\FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua:2059: attempt to index a nil value
05:36.22Wobin<PROTECTED>
05:37.07CIA-1703ckknight * r2220 10FuBar-compat-1.0/Lib/FuBar-compat-1.0.lua: FuBar-compat-1.0 - fixed line 3413:attempt to index a nil value
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05:37.50ckknightWobin, the first error got fixed in the svn already
05:37.56Wobink
05:38.19WobinI'm -guessing- that the second may have to do with AceWardrobe
05:38.25WobinFu
05:39.10tekkubWhatChewWearinFu
05:39.28tekkubspeaking of, is iTem out yet?
05:39.55Wobinbah, if only AceWardrobe was up onthe SVN
05:40.11tekkubif only everything was... :P
05:40.13CIA-1703ckknight * r2221 10FuBar-compat-1.0/Lib/FuBar-compat-1.0.lua: FuBar-compat-1.0 - updated FuBarPlugin:new (deprecated)
05:40.26CIA-1703ckknight * r2222 10FuBarPlugin-1.2/Lib/FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua: FuBarPlugin-1.2 - updated FuBarPlugin:new (deprecated)
05:40.39ckknightall done, Wobin
05:40.46ckknightCodayus, your error was fixed too
05:44.56ckknightlol, Wobin
05:48.03Wobin=(
05:48.18Wobin. o O ("And I'll be the head!")
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05:49.27snurrenerf your update rate btw
05:50.02Wobin?
05:50.24snurre(to all the fubar stuff)
05:50.29snurrespeaking of which
05:50.33snurrewtf is FuBar-compat-1.0?
05:51.20Wobincompatability object?
05:51.22hasteMakes fubar work with plugins that uses the old API (after what I know)
05:51.43CIA-1703ckknight * r2223 10FuBar/PanelClass.lua: FuBar - fix for possible bug.
05:51.56hasteanother exam today ;(
05:52.01WobinGood luck
05:52.05WobinWhat in?
05:52.26hasteuhm, "new norwegian" snurre knows how bad that is
05:53.18WobinIs that a language course?
05:53.26WobinOr a modern history one
05:53.36CodayusCool
05:53.37hastelanguage, and it's required....
05:53.41Codayuszomg, rajaxx fight bugged on us
05:53.59snurrehaste: old norwegian, you mean
05:54.06snurrehaste: new norwegian == english
05:54.16hastehaha :p
05:54.23hastethey were created at the same time tho'
05:54.41CodayusA feared mob got stuck on a rock, the general followed...and LoS issues = wipe
05:55.05hasteCodayus: much better to evade bug them on the hill
05:55.14hastethe whole room will come running then
05:55.18CodayusExcellent.
05:55.23Codayuswtf, that fight just SUCKS
05:55.39hasteIt's quite easy, except for those bugs tho' p
05:55.51CIA-1703ckknight * r2224 10FuBar/FuBar_ExampleFu-1.2/ExampleFu.lua: FuBar - updated ExampleFu-1.2 to use metrognome.
05:57.48CodayusIt once bugged for us in a good way...every mob in that fight despawned except rajaxx.
05:58.01CodayusThe fights kind of fun with no waves and no adds.  :-)
05:58.29KyahxIm sick of ArcHUD, the nameplates are installized too weird
05:58.31Kyahxbah
05:58.42CIA-1703ckknight * r2225 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed line 2306 - attempt to compare nil to number.
05:58.55KyahxI give up =(
05:59.42snurrehaste: how did it go on the exam?
06:00.39hasteI don't know yet, since it's for today :p
06:00.52hastethen I have maths tomorrow
06:01.03hasteand one week of nothiness before orals
06:02.09snurreah right.. the standard written test in "videregående" i guess
06:02.58snurrei was lucky, got away with one norwegian test in 1st, then norwegian and maths written in 3rd.. no orals :D
06:03.42hastehehe
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06:11.03hastewell, I'm leaving then *waves*
06:11.23sedatedChipmunkgo away
06:11.28sedatedChipmunknobody likes you
06:13.28ckknightsedatedChipmunk, check the GloryLib bugs
06:14.06sedatedChipmunkOR
06:14.10sedatedChipmunkI could fall dead asleep, instead
06:14.17sedatedChipmunkchoices, choices
06:14.43sedatedChipmunkread bug reports....blissful sleep
06:14.46sedatedChipmunkman, that's a toughie
06:15.24sedatedChipmunkI think I'll go lie down while I decide
06:16.18ckknightthey're your bugs
06:17.13Gngsksomeone said bugs are a good source of protein
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06:17.22ckknightso is jizz, wanna start drinking that?
06:17.25ckknighthey Elkano
06:17.32Gngskthat's actually not true!
06:17.55ckknightit's not?
06:17.57Elkanoho ck :)
06:18.07Gngskjust a myth
06:18.42Elkanofixed most AV patterns for deDE in GloryLib :) will upload later :)
06:19.39ckknightokay
06:20.25Elkanobut I still havend found out how to specify a fixed point for tabletlib :( (I mean as an addon user, not coder)
06:20.50tekkubno protien milkshakes for me?
06:21.09ckknightsadly, no, Tekkub, all that cocksucking was for nothing
06:21.15Gngskdepends
06:21.18tekkubbum
06:21.35ckknightElkano, *shrug*
06:23.42Elkanowel, you said it's in there but all I've found is the API to set point and relativepoint on register
06:23.56ckknightyea
06:24.13ckknightisn't that what you want?
06:24.59Elkanono, the suggestion was meant as an addon user for all TabletLib frames
06:25.41ckknightwhat suggestion?
06:26.27Wobinbah
06:26.27Elkanoif you detatch a tooltip or have any mod that uses TabletLib for its frame his frame can be placed anywhere on the screen. But it will have it's sticky corner set to the topleft so adding text will make it grow to the right and downwards
06:26.41Wobininconsistant library names =(
06:27.06ckknightit's not inconsistent
06:27.18ckknightFuBar refers to them as tooltips in that context
06:27.26ckknightTablet refers to them as tablets internally
06:27.45Wobinnono
06:27.45ElkanoSo having a menu entry that will let you choose which corner is sticky as a user would be nice. Since if you place the frame to the bottom of the screen you'll want to have it grow upwards instead of downwards
06:27.45ckknightElkano, it shouldn't do that
06:27.46Wobinnot you
06:27.50WobinTekkub =P
06:27.56WobinCompostLib and Metrognome
06:27.59ckknightoh yea
06:28.05ckknightpisses me off, no doubt
06:28.08ckknightit'll be fixed in Ace2
06:28.12ckknightif it ever happens...
06:28.20WobinI have faith =P
06:29.15tekkubeh?
06:29.20ckknightGngsk, http://www.gayhealth.com/templates/1149056689652335510122/common/bodypart.html?record=58&trycookie=1?record=58
06:29.38tekkubI'm not expecting Ace2 like... ever
06:29.50tekkuband Metrognome is the only odd one out
06:30.04ckknightsee, tekkub, the beaurocracy is failing us
06:30.13tekkubunless you're bitching about compost's major version, which it was my first one I followed Iriel's example
06:30.18tekkubwhich I now hate
06:30.26tekkubwhys dat?
06:30.45Wobinnot that
06:30.58Wobinjust that it's called CompostLib, but not MetrognomeLib
06:31.05Wobinfor the object
06:31.06tekkubyea, so?
06:31.13WobinIt's confusing =P
06:31.17tekkubso?
06:31.18tekkub<PROTECTED>
06:31.30tekkubyes, they'll be consistant come Ace2
06:31.33tekkubso never
06:31.34Wobinand I just spent the last 10 minutes trying to figure out why Metrognome didn't load =P
06:31.53Elkano<ckknight> Elkano, it shouldn't do that <-- what should it do then?
06:33.56Gngskok, protein, but not dietary protein!
06:37.06ckknightElkano, it should attach to the nearest corner
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06:43.09tekkubwewt!
06:43.19tekkubI think ProximityLib is almost complete
06:43.31tekkubgot the unitID iterator working
06:44.03Elkanowell, a) it seems not to work as it should and b) giving the user an option to be able to decide on his own would be nice
06:44.20ckknightno, I don't trust users
06:44.49ckknightactually, I don't see a good UI way of accomplishing it
06:46.03Wobintekkub: What's it do?
06:46.31tekkubkeeps track of raid/party member's range
06:47.17moonwolfassumed range for the most part.
06:47.25moonwolfthe way I understand it.
06:51.35snurre[08:44] <ckknight> no, I don't trust users   <-- good, you have some sense!
06:51.55ckknightyou expected any less, snurre?
06:52.15Elkanockknight, simply add an option in the rightclick menu "fixed point" -> default, top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right ;)
06:52.25ckknightI'm not gonna do that, Elkano
06:52.27snurreexpected would be a little strong.. positively surprised i guess :p
06:52.34Elkanowell, k :(
06:52.56ckknightI'll see if I can track down your bug
06:53.04ckknightbut I mean, I don't play WoW much
06:53.54snurrei try not to
06:58.52Elkanowell, I'll look at the code a bit, too :)
07:02.17ckknightit'll be in FuBarPlugin-1.2 in the register part, but primarily in TabletLib
07:02.28ckknightbe glad it's not all one giant chunk
07:02.32ckknightmodularity is a good thing
07:02.58Industrialmorning
07:03.12Elkanoyea, looking at TabletLib atm
07:03.48Industrial< Makk> Industrial: No problems so far
07:03.51IndustrialMakk: GOOD
07:03.56Industrialups caps
07:12.03Elkanohmm, how are the return values from GetScreenHeight()/GetScreenWidth() and frame:GetTop()/frame:GetBottom()/frame:GetLeft()/frame:GetRight() affected by scaling?
07:30.08kergothalright
07:30.11kergothwho stole my motivation?
07:30.57moonwolfnot me.
07:31.09moonwolfcan I have some of yours when you get it back ?
07:31.18kergoths/when/if/
07:31.44moonwolfdont be so negative.
07:40.46CIA-1703tekkub * r2226 10ProximityLib/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
07:40.46CIA-17ProximityLib - Initial Submission
07:40.46CIA-17- Embeddable library for estimating party/raid unit's range (and last time seen within that range)
07:42.47Industrialmoonwolf: geenstijl.nl
07:42.51Industrialmoonwolf: first topic
07:42.53kergothawesome
07:42.56kergothsomeone did coroutines for D
07:43.31moonwolfreads
07:44.07Industrialmoonwolf: makes me puke
07:44.35Industrialmoonwolf: oh its the second item now
07:44.45moonwolfah
07:44.58moonwolfI thought the group rape thing wasnt especially significant
07:45.04moonwolfwatches movie
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07:45.21CIA-1703tekkub * r2227 10ProximityLib/Lib/ProximityLib.luc: ProximityLib - Hrm... need to get Scite not saving these damn temp files... hey cladder, fix it!
07:46.41moonwolfsickening.
07:46.44Industrialvery
07:46.52moonwolfthe nato things.... okay you could reason for that
07:47.12moonwolfbut 12 years olds are NOT I repeat NOT okay to have sex with....
07:47.20moonwolfand they expect to be taken serieus now....
07:47.46tekkubhow do I disable the temp files in scite?
07:47.48Industrialthe netherlands is so going to be laughed at
07:48.04Industrial:|
07:48.08Industrialby the whole world
07:48.27tekkubtrying to overthrow the US's seat?
07:48.52Industrialnew party
07:48.56Industrialpedophilia
07:48.57moonwolfwe have a political party of pedophiles.
07:48.58Industrialew
07:48.59Industrial:|
07:49.11moonwolfI hope someone shoots them.
07:54.16Gngskthere goes the chain
07:54.42Industrialthe chain?
07:57.06Gngskthe chain is normality
07:57.27Gngska pedophile political party is quite off the chain
07:58.04Gngskhow does that happen anyway?
07:58.20Industrialdemocracy
07:58.23Industrialyou are free to
07:58.51IndustrialI can make a party and declare to do nothing, if people vote on me ill do nothing...
07:59.30Industrialtheres about 30 new parties atm
07:59.53Gngskright, i guess that one's just getting publicity
07:59.59Industrialyea
08:00.37[Ammo]morning
08:00.44Gngskheya
08:00.57kergoth~/downloads$ wow_addon -d FuBar-1.2.2225.zip
08:01.04kergothWOW_ADDON: Version 1.2.1925 of FuBar |cff007FFF -Ace-|r is already imported and tagged.
08:01.24kergoththe .toc is never current, because it doesnt change when the code does.
08:01.33kergothso the addon version there is always wrong
08:02.08IndustrialWhy doesnt the toc get changed then
08:02.32Industrialerr
08:02.45Industriala version in the toc? why
08:02.46kergoththe Revision expansion expands to the revision alright, OF THE FILE ITS IN :P
08:03.01kergothhm? the version field is quite common
08:03.07Industrialo
08:03.21kergoththe problem is people using svn keywords for the version there, it never matches the one in the code
08:03.36Industrialthe only form of version I have is in the name of my zip
08:03.45Industrial:p
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08:18.46moonwolfI have a version in the ace registration and one in the toc.
08:18.49moonwolfby hand.
08:19.27kergothi can see using revision for a library
08:19.30kergothbut for the addon version, it just causes problems
08:19.52moonwolfit doesnt make much sense to me.
08:20.06moonwolfbecause it progresses in a strange way for users
08:20.26moonwolfwtf, your adden went from 758 to 938 in two days
08:22.52IndustrialI want to provide my addons working per toc version change. I just go up in numbers from there. 10000-5 becomes 11000-1 if its the first release for that version.
08:23.09moonwolfmakes sense
08:23.12moonwolfmore people do that.
08:23.16Industrialyeah
08:23.24Industriali like it because it doesnt make the version static
08:23.32Industrial'does it work with idchat 3?'
08:23.42Industrialkeeps it 'rolling'
08:25.55Industrialtonight im gunna finish my channel name shrinkalizer
08:26.06Industrial[1. General] [Industrial]: foobar --> 00:00:00 1 Industrial: foobar
08:26.50Neronixmorning
08:26.56Industrialafter that ill try to make one that colors peoples nicks whom you know the classes of
08:26.59Industrialmorning Neronix
08:26.59moonwolfHow does it handle guild and raid and officer ?
08:27.19NeronixI'm just sticking to major.minor.revision/bugfix - makes sense to me because I'm making revisions/bugfixes, minor changes and soon... a major one :P
08:27.36moonwolfmajor.minor.bugfix
08:27.49Industrialg, r, o
08:28.01moonwolfalthough the last one may also indicate a single added feature, or a change in the localisation.
08:28.56Industrialand p for party
08:29.00Industrialand c for cookie
08:29.03Industrial:-)
08:29.15moonwolfcookie ?
08:29.22Industrial:p
08:29.27NeronixDelicious delicacies
08:29.35moonwolfhehe
08:29.38Neronix... I forgot the rest of it >.<
08:29.45Industrialhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_is_for_cookie
08:33.08moonwolfIf you're bad at felatio does that mean you suck at blowing, or blow at sucking?
08:33.10Neronixhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Firefox#Delicious_delicacies
08:33.14Elkanohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C++_is_for_more_cookies
08:34.15moonwolfC++ is one more cookie!
08:36.05Elkanobut C++ > C => more cookies > cookie
08:36.54moonwolfcant argue with that
08:37.03moonwolfso where does D come into thos ?
08:37.05moonwolfthis*
08:37.07moonwolfand c#
08:37.36Wobinpointer to this!
08:38.17CIA-1703ammo * r2228 10BigWigs/AQ40/Twins.lua: Bigwigs: Twin Emperors - Should have a working 15 minute enrage timer now.
08:38.19Elkanopointer to sth of type this?
08:39.40Gngskhow about a twin teleport timer that starts even if I'm not in range!
08:41.10ckknight_http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-1585-autoinnerfire.html <- cast inner fire on movement
08:41.25[Ammo]Gngsk: impossible ;)
08:41.31Gngskboo
08:41.38[Ammo]until we get syncing mechanism going
08:41.42Gngskthat's what I meant!
08:41.52[Ammo]but I was missing my 15 minute timer :)
08:42.01[Ammo]we killed them first time last night
08:42.04Gngskyea, and that's not really twin specific
08:42.11Gngskbut that's when I notice it the most
08:42.15Gngskcuz I'm a rogue, always running back and forth
08:42.19Gngskseldom see the timex bar
08:42.23[Ammo]yeah
08:42.33Gngskjust rely on rs
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08:43.32[Ammo]our rogues start running at 5 seconds to port
08:43.34[Ammo]I think
08:43.41[Ammo]actually I'm sure ;)
08:43.53Gngskyep
08:44.04Elkano^wtfanyone has a good idea what to print on a shirt if you got two lines of 20 chars each? (don't know if it came through before dc)
08:45.04Gngskhmm
08:45.22[Ammo]lines front and back?
08:45.28[Ammo]or just 2 lines one side
08:45.33Gngsk"Exalted with Hydraxian and all I got was this TShirt"
08:45.40Gngskway over 20 chars :(
08:45.58[Ammo]"By Fire be Purged!"
08:46.43IndustrialI still like the 'rogues do it from behind' but thats 24 chars and you would have to be a hot babe.
08:47.23Industrial:-D
08:48.30[Ammo]<Food and Drink Vendor>
08:48.43Industriallol
08:49.27moonwolf<shady dealer>
08:49.50Gngskthat gets my vote
08:50.49WobinAnd on the back "I've Got What You Need!"
08:51.25Industrialhehe
08:51.57kergothdamnit
08:52.05kergothwow hangs on login now, and moving the SV out of the way solves it
08:52.15kergothand it occurred only after a set of addon updates :\
08:52.31ckknightkergoth, any progress regarding Ace2?
08:53.08kergothwaiting to hear the results of clad's testing
08:53.33ckknighthrm
08:53.41ckknightso I'm to bug clad, got it
08:53.53kergothhehe
08:54.10Elkano^wtfit'S two lines on the front, white on a black shirt
08:54.30moonwolfshouldnt it be yellow ?
08:54.49Elkano^wtfno choice on color, shirt is for free :)
08:54.58moonwolfah
08:55.18Wobin12 characters a line?
08:55.39WobinElkano
08:55.45Wobin<GF'sname's Pet>
08:56.06moonwolf<Shady Dealer>
08:56.10moonwolfstill gets my vote.
08:57.54Elkano^wtf-> http://www.3dsupply.de/3d/img/produkte/00000161.jpg ;)
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09:00.12Elkano^wtfoh, I quit :( ;)
09:02.20CIA-1703facboy * r2229 10Timex/: Created Timex folder
09:03.03Elkano^wtfhmmm... <shady dealer> or <Shady Dealer>?
09:04.23Gngskcase sensitive
09:04.56Elkano^wtfso the latter?
09:06.33Industrialyes
09:08.53CIA-1703facboy * r2230 10Timex/ (20 files in 6 dirs): Timex - added (23.1-beta3)
09:30.29ckknighthttp://www.ancientspear.com/mac.wmv
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09:32.53Industrialckknight: tomeout
09:32.55Industrialtime*
09:33.03Industrialor rather, cant find the server
09:33.16Industrialancientspear.com - nada
09:34.37Elkano^wtfckknight, I think I've found the 'bug' :) you've split the screen in 6 parts and I expected only four. So my frame is anchored TOP instead of TOPRIGHT as I expected
09:34.48ckknighthrm
09:34.55ckknightokay
09:35.56ckknightIndustrial, http://www.milkandcookies.com/article/1922/
09:38.44CIA-1703elkano * r2231 10GloryLib/Lib/GloryLib.lua: GloryLib: updated deDE patterns for Alterac Valley
09:54.03NeronixGah, I R stoopid
09:55.04hastemeep meep
09:55.36Elkano^wtfNeronix, add 'reset session' pls :)
09:55.58NeronixNot really necessary
09:56.23NeronixStick the following in a lua slinger script or something:
09:57.12Neronixhttp://ace.pastebin.com/748710
09:57.17Elkano^wtfwell, if you're changing code anyways, adding this to the menu shouldn't be that much work, would it?
09:57.34NeronixI'm trying to cut out non-essential stuff
09:58.03NeronixCall me crazy, but I'm trying as hard as I can to stick to my design goal :P
09:58.53NeronixBleh, I'll add it
09:59.33CodayusHeh
09:59.54Codayus"No!  I'm going to stick to my design goal!  <pause>  Okay I'll add it."
09:59.55Codayus:-D
10:00.13Neronix80% of the code for it's already there
10:00.49NeronixI set the bunch of variables for data to 0 on initialise to prevent arithmetic on nil errors
10:01.11NeronixI just stick that in a method and call it on initialise and add a dewdrop option that calls it
10:01.50Elkano^wtf/hug Neronix
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10:26.16hastesedatedChipmunk: patching WoWTest over samba as we speak!
10:26.20hasteor as I speak xD
10:26.22moonwolfCOOL
10:26.28moonwolfsorry for the caps.
10:26.42hasteI can finally get some work done on oRA_Ready and oRA_RaidSay
10:34.05[Ammo]hehe
10:34.22[Ammo]hook into the blizz stuff so it uses the pretty oRA windows with the blizz events/funcs
10:34.40[Ammo]oh and make sure /rs does /rw :)
10:35.01Neronix/rw?
10:35.06Neronixnvm
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10:37.01[Ammo]yeah the blizz raidsay clone :p
10:37.11haste*cries*
10:37.23moonwolfnext up
10:37.27moonwolfblizzard boss mods
10:37.43Neronixlol
10:37.59hastenah, it's the vote interface then bossmods
10:39.38[Ammo]hehe
10:40.00[Ammo]I tried making the 15 minute timer for Twin Emps btw, it's in the SVN but needs testing :)
10:41.01[Ammo]if you have one of the emps targeted and you enter combat it'll start the timer, if you leave combat it'll disable it
10:41.07[Ammo](or kill the boss ofcourse)
10:43.13moonwolfyeah
10:43.15moonwolfone cool things
10:43.23moonwolfwith the new kill messages
10:43.35moonwolfyou will know exactly who did the killing blow.
10:43.51[Ammo]hehe
10:44.08[Ammo]has been slain by Ammo
10:44.38moonwolfRagnaros has been slain by (a priest SW:P)
10:44.41moonwolfbummer.
10:44.51[Ammo]the trash past twin emps was fun
10:44.58[Ammo]not really trash but fun nonetheless
10:45.10moonwolfthre trash past twin emps are god damn mini encounters.
10:45.17[Ammo]they're quite easy
10:45.30[Ammo]we didn't know what we were doing, or what they did
10:45.44moonwolfa average zg raid would wipe on them.
10:45.57[Ammo]we pulled 4 slayers and a champion
10:46.10moonwolfwow
10:46.12[Ammo]and killed them without preparation
10:46.17[Ammo]10 deaths or so
10:46.19moonwolfand you didnt get wtfpwned.
10:46.21[Ammo]indeed
10:46.44[Ammo]our raid is good at killing AQ trash
10:46.51[Ammo]we just suck on the long boss encounters :)
10:46.55moonwolfI like the concept of the groups of 3.
10:47.03moonwolfthats really original , to me anyway.
10:47.15[Ammo](we kill whatever we pull on the Anubisath Defenders as well)
10:47.32haste[Ammo]: look forward to the mind flayer packs
10:47.38[Ammo]we haven't done those yet
10:47.41[Ammo]we did a slayer pack
10:47.46[Ammo]then called the raid
10:47.49hastespinning things?
10:47.50[Ammo]because we were over time laready
10:47.51[Ammo]yeah
10:47.56hastethey are funny ;D
10:47.57[Ammo]the silencing spinners
10:48.09[Ammo]our druids moonfire pulled them for some odd reason
10:48.10moonwolfsilencing bastards.
10:48.22[Ammo]because the hunters were hesitating on the pull some drunk druid ran in and pulled :)
10:48.25moonwolfmoonfire pul....
10:48.38moonwolfweird tactic.
10:48.44[Ammo]it worked :)
10:48.59[Ammo]the druid in question was drunk though
10:49.01moonwolfresto/balance druid ?
10:49.04NeronixPeople raid while drunk!?
10:49.05[Ammo]51 resto
10:49.08[Ammo]ofcourse
10:49.14Neronixlol
10:49.20[Ammo]we usually have 3 drunk in the raid or so
10:49.22[Ammo]adds flavor ;)
10:49.23moonwolfthat guy was in trouble if somehting went wrong.
10:49.27[Ammo]naah
10:49.42[Ammo]it was going to be a 'we'll see what happens pull'
10:49.46[Ammo]last pull of the night etc
10:49.50[Ammo]so it didn't matter
10:49.53moonwolfah
10:50.08[Ammo]during normal pulls shit like that will get you scolded
10:50.27[Ammo]we don't do DKP penalties etc etc
10:50.37[Ammo]we're a weird sort of casual friendly guild
10:50.48moonwolfI have a new pull tactic, a hunter aimedshot, multishot concusion shots them.
10:51.18moonwolfthen he tries not to die untill the tank pulls the agro off again.
10:51.28[Ammo]hehe
10:51.42moonwolfbest done with all crits.
10:51.43[Ammo]eye of the killrog pull before fankriss :p
10:51.59[Ammo]the tunnel before fankriss is aggro'd and comes out with eye of the killrog
10:52.04[Ammo]I managed to get my eye halfway through
10:52.05moonwolfooooh
10:52.07[Ammo]and pulled around 80 :)
10:52.12moonwolfWIPE
10:52.15[Ammo]naah
10:52.16[Ammo]AOE
10:52.27[Ammo]frost nova, aoe
10:52.29moonwolflots of mages died ?
10:52.34hastewe usually clear the whole tunnel when we have killed fankriss
10:52.36[Ammo]50% diec
10:52.40hasteat once that is
10:52.46[Ammo]yeah it's not that hard
10:52.51moonwolfkk
10:52.55[Ammo]need a welltimed nova
10:52.57moonwolfwarlock AoE sucks
10:53.01[Ammo]not quite ;)
10:53.11[Ammo]I save mages with my mad aggro aoe
10:53.12moonwolfthe first wave does no damage but does cause agro.
10:53.14hastehttp://www.fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_051606_211800.png << fun when the zerg comes
10:53.34moonwolfnot to mention that I think hellfire has uberhihg agro chance
10:53.42[Ammo]which is good
10:53.49[Ammo]warlocks have hp
10:53.51[Ammo]mages don't
10:54.15moonwolfthey should get more sta gear.
10:54.21moonwolfon the other hand
10:54.22[Ammo]depends
10:54.40moonwolfwarlocks have maintankish hp at times.
10:54.41[Ammo]if a mage can trust someone else to get aggro and stay alive they can happily wear less sta
10:54.54[Ammo](not on all encounters ofcourse)
10:55.03[Ammo]Ouro with low hp mages -> bad idea
10:55.13moonwolfwhat is ouro like ?
10:55.28[Ammo]no idea, but he seems to do damage to about everyone
10:55.37[Ammo]we'll get to him after we down c'thun
10:55.41moonwolfanother AoE boss.
10:57.59[Ammo]I sooo want to broadcast the tentacle rape messages, that will probably cause too much laughter and will cause a wipe ;)
10:58.13moonwolfbut it would be FUN.
10:58.21moonwolfpeople forget FUN to much.
10:58.42[Ammo]yup
10:58.59[Ammo]that's why we progress a bit slower than most, too much fun :p
10:59.42[Ammo]mainly hurts on the long concentration fights
10:59.51[Ammo]where everyone needs to be focused for 15 mins
11:00.06moonwolfI wonder if we could change the vocals of c'thun
11:00.11[Ammo]usually halfway through you get some idiot broadcasting the opening of a beercan over ventrilo or something :)
11:00.17moonwolfto make him say more tentacle related stuff.
11:00.20[Ammo]hehe
11:00.34Neronixmoonwolf: I'm sure you can without modifying the MPQs
11:00.40moonwolfcool
11:00.55NeronixData/whatever/Kathune/foo.wav or something like that
11:01.07NeronixI'll go fetch the actual path in a sec
11:01.11moonwolfYAY
11:01.36moonwolflook forward to a Tentacle Fun mod.
11:01.51haste[Ammo]: he does around 4k5 AoE (spinning) attack one 180 degrees of the raid
11:02.00hasteor 180 degrees of his current view angle
11:02.04[Ammo]aha
11:02.13[Ammo]that might hurt :)
11:02.29[Ammo]well next week :)
11:02.29moonwolfso raid at his back, warriors in the front.
11:03.28hastemoonwolf: he knocks away warriors also
11:03.32hasteand submerges
11:03.45hasteand you have to stay out of his sweep range
11:03.50haste(since it does like 3k damage on leather)
11:04.03hasteso rogues on ouro = team sniper
11:04.35hasteI can hopefully test my C'Thun BigWigs module this reset tho
11:05.26[Ammo]I hope to test it too
11:05.39[Ammo]and the new twin emps 15 min timer i submitted
11:06.00hastegive me a sec and I'll pastebin mine
11:06.09[Ammo]just commit it ;)
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11:06.43NeronixDo you have to kill them within 15 minutes or something?
11:06.45hastehttp://ace.pastebin.com/748792
11:06.55hasteI have no idea if it shows the correct timers tho'
11:07.06hasteIt's estimated as hell :p
11:08.05hasteI start it when eye beam hits the first person
11:08.08hasteie. MT
11:08.25hastecan't rely on combat on that event
11:08.31hastesince it can be everything from instant to 10 sec
11:08.32Industrialeye beam? >_> sounds lame
11:08.35Syzxdoes it show who is targetted for the dark glare?
11:08.39Industrialdo i WANT to level to 60? :p
11:08.56hasteSyzx: Why would you need that?
11:09.01Industrialdark glare? are you fighting some kinda big aye thing or something?
11:09.05Industrialeye*
11:09.08Syzxto start moving >.<
11:09.10moonwolfeeuh
11:09.10moonwolfyeah
11:09.11[Ammo]yeah you are
11:09.15moonwolfc'thun has a big eye stage
11:09.17Industrial.. really?
11:09.17AndaliaI updated cthun myself too yesterday. But i wasn't able to test it for now.
11:09.22Industrialahahahahahahahhh'
11:09.28hasteYou'll have to mbe mentally retarded to not notice that the eye turns red and run within 5 sec
11:09.28Industrialthats sad >_>
11:09.31[Ammo]and yes you have to kill the twin emps within 15 minutes or they go enraged and do spam 3k ae
11:09.40moonwolfits compensated by his tentacle things
11:09.50Industriala big eye with tentacles?
11:09.53Industrialahahahahahahah
11:09.54hasteIndustrial: http://www.fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_052606_003147.png << C'Thun
11:10.00hasteoh, that was phase two
11:10.10haste*pokes around after a phase one shot*
11:10.20Industriallunch
11:10.22Industrialtime
11:10.49hastemeep, I don't have one of phase one
11:11.13moonwolfso
11:11.17moonwolfcan someone explain me
11:11.27moonwolfwho is ouro....
11:11.31moonwolfwhy is he there.
11:11.31[Ammo]a sandworm
11:11.40[Ammo]he's there because blizz needed a boss there
11:11.42[Ammo]to drop epix
11:11.46[Ammo]and to annoy the hell out of raids
11:11.50haste(he has a damn small loot table)
11:11.56[Ammo]"working as intended"
11:11.58moonwolfit gets extended.
11:12.02Andaliahttp://ace.pastebin.com/748795 look at this please it is my version of cthun bossmod
11:12.04moonwolfI think
11:12.18SyzxOuro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CL2hetqpfg&search=giant
11:12.23Syzx:<
11:12.26hasteThe ancient Silithid Sand Worm, Ouro, is a being of legendary power. He is rumored to have been created by the Old God C'Thun himself as a mockery of life. He resides in Temple of Ahn'Qiraj.
11:14.14Syzxbtw, haste: about mentally retarded when a glare comes. how hard is it to see a mobs emote in your chatwindow? :P
11:14.28hasteSyzx: it doesn't emote
11:14.49hasteC'Thun turns red and a nice black cloud forms around him
11:14.57hasteif you can't move from it....
11:15.17Syzxwell, how do you know where the glare will start?
11:15.30hastehe looks in that direction for around 7 sec
11:15.42hasteand turns red and makes a cloud etc
11:15.43Syzxtargets any players?
11:15.45Andaliahealers use to start at their bars and don't look at their environment
11:15.53hastehe randomly changes target it seems
11:16.04hasteAndalia: they'll have to adapt
11:16.22hasteit's only once in a while anyway, if you fail at the glare.. then you will most likely die to eye beam
11:17.41Syzxah well, i guess we need more practice -.-
11:18.32SyzxI have this mod and I cant figure out how they know who's targetted for the glare.
11:18.40Syzxprobably because i jsut started with lua this week :P
11:19.14hasteSyzx: if it's the mod I think it is: it parser through every raid member and checks if someone has been targeted for a longer amount of time then usual
11:19.38hasteit does around three different loops at a time I think
11:19.44hastelong time since I looked at it :p
11:20.21hasteomg.. stupid blizzard patcher
11:20.36hasteI patched WoWTest from my laptop.. since Wine fails at the latest PTR patch
11:20.47hasteguess what it wanted to do AFTER patching :(
11:21.01haste*kills of samba*
11:21.04[Ammo]download another patch?
11:21.09hasteno.. start it :p
11:21.12hasteover the network
11:21.12[Ammo]:)
11:21.20hasteon a 650MHz P3
11:22.41[Ammo]ouch
11:22.47[Ammo]bad idea
11:33.41moonwolffun
11:36.15hastenoes! queue on the PTR!
11:36.23haste*enter world*
11:44.27Industrialhttp://www.fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_053106_004339.png
11:44.30Industriali love the loot thingy too
11:44.31Industrial:p
11:45.21Industrialhaste: How do your action buttons work?
11:46.00hastehotkeys ftw to say so
11:46.13hastemouse4 + friends, mouse5 + friends
11:46.15hastealt + friends
11:46.41hasteI memorize all the hotkeys and that's basicly it
11:46.51[Ammo]hehe
11:47.09[Ammo]I do as well, but I forgot most of the time to hide the bar :)
11:47.17[Ammo]so I just keep it in view and ignore it
11:47.46[Ammo]http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-warlock-en&T=204603
11:47.47Industrialbut...
11:48.04[Ammo]good analysis etc, (even linked from the wow-europe homepage)
11:48.22Mikmag'morning :D
11:50.24Industrialhaste: so you never use more then 10 actions?
11:50.50hasteIndustrial: ten? I have quite a lot of hotkeys :p
11:51.14IndustrialActually, I only use button 1-5 and use shift and ctrl to make that 15 buttons, but when i need to use 6 or 7 ill go nuts because its too many
11:51.29phyberis there a table of the colours for various items somewhere in WoW?
11:51.36phyberlike, ITEM_COLOUR_EPIC or something
11:51.42moonwolfOk, so you look like a female tauren druid. But when you shapeshifted, my interface says you are a male bear.
11:51.42moonwolfCall me a pervert, but I have never been so turned on in my entire life. Terms of Service be dammed, I wanna do things to you that the language filter removes. Girlboy, I've got the brass balls and Orb of Deception if you've got the time. Next time we are in Warsong Gulch, lets get a room and cap flags, maybe even a little Furbolg roleplay?
11:52.34phyberah, GetItemQualityColor.
11:52.39hasteIndustrial: I'm able to press 6 and 7 :p
11:52.47hasteand you have q and e as a bonus
11:52.51hastefgtr also
11:52.56hasteand zxcv :p
11:53.43[Ammo]I have 30 hotkeys or more
11:54.06[Ammo]` 1 2 .. 0 - = \
11:54.15[Ammo]and shift, ctrl etc combinations of those
11:54.31hasteI don't use 890+\ :p
11:54.54hasteI have rebinded those to fvqec
11:57.18[Ammo]I also use [ ] for trinket1 and trinket2
12:02.24Industrialhttp://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/hotkeys
12:02.35Mikmanow i wonder what update does the updater download
12:02.41Gngsk:o
12:03.21Industrialusing anything further then 5 on the keyboard while walking woth WASD (wich is good for using ctrl and shift while walking) results in hand injuries - imo
12:03.38Gngski agree
12:03.42Gngskbut you don't use b?
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12:07.39Industrialnop
12:08.01[Ammo]but I don'tneed to use anything further than 5 while walking :)
12:08.07Mikmakergoth: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-interface-customization&T=358026&P=9
12:08.10[Ammo]oh and autowalk is on my leftsidebutton on mouse
12:08.16Industrialcomments appreciated ofcource
12:08.20[Ammo]so I just click autowalk and use the mouse to move
12:09.07GngskI can't not strafe, so I always have my left pinky on a
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12:10.10Gngskunless of course I'm going for ctrl or shift
12:11.02moonwolfhere is where my n52 comes in
12:11.10Gngskahh, yea
12:11.19moonwolfI can access 1-8 on my directional pad
12:11.30GngskI've been meaning to redo my keybindings, gonna leave Industrials page up so I don't forget!
12:11.30moonwolfright left, up, down and shifted.
12:11.45moonwolfall without taking fingers away from wasd.
12:11.53moonwolfcause I can do those with my thumb
12:12.10moonwolfand it leaves me all the key's around wasd for other hotkeyd actions.
12:12.16Gngskyea, too bad keypad isn't on opposite side
12:12.22Gngsker, numpad
12:12.58moonwolfI gave up my C and Z butten default functions to more usefull stuff
12:13.04moonwolfcaps lock is pet attack
12:13.16moonwolftab is a targeting macro
12:13.21Industriali have my whole pet bar on 1 button
12:13.25Gngskyah, I rebound default zxcv with shift mod
12:13.25moonwolfshit is stil shitf.
12:14.05moonwolfC is aspect of the hawk, shift-C is aspect of the the cheetah, F is aimed shot, shift F is hunters mark
12:14.20Gngsknerf da huntz!
12:14.26Industrialhow do you bind that shit
12:14.46moonwolfdump it in an action bar, bind the thing, hide the bar.
12:14.51Industrialmeh
12:14.56Gngsk:P
12:15.37moonwolfI have some more stuff, but you get the gist.
12:16.15moonwolfI almost never have to let go of my n52.
12:16.23moonwolfunless I need the char pane of something
12:16.25moonwolfor the bags
12:16.42moonwolfim not wasting keys on my n52 for that shit.
12:22.29Gngskmost of my toons are on a pve server, but I've recently been concentrating on a druid on a pvp server, redid keybindings twice already
12:22.35Gngskbig difference
12:22.53IndustrialI memorize my 1~5 keys
12:23.14Gngskyah, having to rememorize twice wasn't fun
12:23.30Gngsknot to mention 3 different shapeshift forms
12:23.33Industrialmemorize on some easy mobs
12:23.39Industrialoh yeah that sucks
12:23.45Industrialfor druid i'd like a button click hud
12:24.09GngskI have a tough time using button clicks, I almost always have right mouse button down mouse looking
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12:24.26Industrialyeah
12:24.27Industrialme2
12:25.16moonwolfmorning cair
12:25.35moonwolfwait, what part of canada did you live in again ?
12:25.47moonwolfeastish or westish /
12:25.48moonwolf?*
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13:18.29moonwolfhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/5030518.stm
13:18.35moonwolfrofl
13:24.25Neronixlmao
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13:31.54phyberthere.  added border colouring for item quality to Fizzle :)
13:32.19phyberit's a bit difficult to see though, since there doesn't seem to be a way to make the border thicker :/
13:40.19NeronixThe Pirate Bay got raided today
13:40.25Neronix:(
13:40.35Industrialthe pirate bay?
13:41.13Neronixyep
13:42.11Elkano^grris it what I think it is?
13:42.22NeronixYeah, world's biggest bittorrent tracker
13:42.54Elkano^grrand waht do you mean by 'raided'? police came by to pickup the logs? DDoS?
13:42.55Industrialthought you were talking about some wow zone
13:43.47NeronixElkano^grr: Police arrested 3 guys and confiscated the servers pending an investigation
13:45.30Elkano^grrnewslink?
13:45.37Neronixhttp://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1203
13:46.41Industrialwell good for them
13:47.20Elkano^grrwell, I'll be on my way home now... l8ers :)
13:47.24Industrialbye
13:49.31Tain"The premature departure of ThePirateBay.org marks a significant turning point in the BitTorrent community."  Bullshit, it means nothing.
13:51.33NeronixThe BT community's like a hydra with hundreds of heads
13:51.49Neronixcut one off, 5-10 grow in its place
13:51.53Neronixbut people will still miss TPB
13:52.42moonwolfyeah, for a month
13:52.50moonwolfsame deal as Suprnova.org really
13:53.02NeronixYeah
13:53.15moonwolfonly suprnova wasnt raided.
13:53.39NeronixAnd they hopefully won't come back as a publicity magnet for an inferior product
13:53.50Neronix*coughexeemcough*
13:53.59moonwolfexeem, a worthless pile of crap
13:54.38NeronixUnderstatement
13:55.42Industrialmininova
13:57.08TainRunescape is approaching 1 million subscribers.  I wonder what it's all about.
13:57.38moonwolfnot a clue
13:57.44moonwolfwho the hell wants to play runescape
13:57.47moonwolf...
13:57.50moonwolfthe bad thing is
13:57.59Industrialits about pk'ing tht bishie wit ur pure warriorz wit 2hrune yo!
13:58.04TainI don't know anything about it at all.
13:58.05moonwolfI see people playing it at my local i-net cafe .
13:58.11Industriali do <
13:58.12Industrial:<
13:58.29Industrialused to play it at school
13:58.41Industrial(omg yes i was one of those geeks)
13:59.03moonwolfgo play a decent rpg
13:59.05moonwolflike eeuh
13:59.06Industrialthats when anarchy online was new :-)
13:59.08moonwolftibia!
13:59.14Industriallol
14:00.01Industrialnote to self: do not use 0.5cm grid printed paper again
14:00.07Industrialit distracts me for hours :p
14:00.31moonwolflol
14:00.33moonwolfscan it.
14:00.36moonwolfI want to seel.
14:00.42Industriali have a notblock of it
14:00.57Industrialused to do games on it, and draw the pixel shit i do now with ms paint
14:02.20Industriallike, draw a square - 15*15 blocks, then start drawing a line on a side of a block in turns
14:02.30Industrialwhen you close one you color it in your color
14:02.39Industrialone with most blocks wins
14:02.43Industrial:p
14:03.04Industrialthats at i did in math class :X
14:05.07moonwolfthats a very old game.
14:05.49Industriali know heh
14:06.00Industrialcant remember the name :(
14:06.06Industrialbound the be internet games of it
14:06.15Industrialto be*
14:06.35moonwolfthere was a tvshow that used that game.
14:06.38moonwolfI think.
14:06.48Industrialah yes
14:06.59Industrialsome kids thing with people on the phone
14:07.02Wobinboxes =P
14:07.08WobinI always used to call it that
14:07.27IndustrialWobin: google will give me sokoban :p
14:07.29WobinI had a strategy that made me unstoppable at least the first time it was used
14:07.40Mikmago batwoman
14:07.56Industrialbisexual > lesbian
14:08.07WobinCause that way you have a chance =P
14:09.39Wobinhm
14:10.05Wobinshould I points into Lightning Reflexes, or Malice?
14:10.15Wobiner, put more
14:11.31moonwolfmalice
14:11.47Wobink
14:13.13WobinNow that I've moved down the combat tree, I have to figure out where to go from here =)
14:14.21TainMalice definitely.
14:14.39WobinI've got 3 in imp evisc so far
14:16.15Wobinlooks like 20/31 is the way to go...
14:16.28NeronixYay, wowhead works with opera now!
14:16.54Tain20/31 is what a lot of people go with
14:17.11moonwolf31/20 or 20/31 is more or less equal it depends on gear and preference.
14:18.06WobinI'm liking the mace stun effect
14:18.18TainSomeone doing only daggers would be different, but I only like doing that if you have a top end dagger.
14:18.32moonwolfdagger builds are silly
14:18.37Wobinboring =)
14:18.39TainThey're not silly.
14:18.42moonwolfill take a combat or hemo mace build
14:18.47WobinI have Wirt's third Leg and Mug o' Hurt atm =)
14:18.54Wobinit's just fun using them =P
14:19.15moonwolfim just more of a combat person.
14:19.23moonwolfbackstabbing isnt my thing
14:19.37TainThat's fine, but that doesn't make a huge part of the class silly.
14:19.37moonwolfcheapshot, hemo hemo, evisc.
14:19.43moonwolfthats a fun thing to pull off.
14:20.06moonwolfanywya
14:20.35NeronixAny problems with this build? It's a DW build for when I'm levelling or until I decide that I need to shift points into protection: http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?phhxdhbZVVbcxxkmo
14:21.21TainActully this is what I was looking for, has some common Rogue builds and explains why.   http://wowhistory.digitalsentience.com/index.php/Rogue_Class
14:22.03TainNever was able to play a Warrior very far, I tried a few times but got really bored with it after a while.
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14:22.33ShyvaYow
14:22.37Wobinhehe
14:22.41WobinI was just looking at that
14:22.42hastehi there
14:22.45Wobinand loaded it again =P
14:23.03netcursehttp://wow.allakhazam.com/ read news.
14:23.06netcurseMerging starting.
14:25.15Industrialoooo
14:25.17Industrial*look*
14:29.13Makkmerging?
14:30.13IndustrialOh you didn't know?
14:30.23Makk?
14:30.48IndustrialThe supposedly IGE owned Ogaming and the 100% IGE owned thottbot and allakhazam.com are all merging into one site
14:30.51Industrialzam.com
14:31.02Makkløl
14:31.15Makkwill it have "Buy Gold!" ads all over?
14:31.18TainThe sky is falling.  The end of the world is near.
14:31.24IndustrialThat's one of the reasons why I took my addons off wowi
14:31.27netcurse*supposedly* :>
14:31.36Industrial*cough*
14:32.10TainDon't let facts get in the way of good conspiracy theory though, Makk.
14:32.22Makk16:35:28 < Industrial> zam.com
14:32.31Makkzam.com links to allakhazam
14:32.40Industrial< netcurse> Merging starting.
14:32.42Industrialyou'll see
14:32.43WobinIndustrial: Don't let Cairenn hear you say that =P
14:32.50Makkwill they merge into allakhazam?
14:32.54IndustrialWobin: that is what we argued over
14:33.04TainIndustrial has no idea, he's just making assumptions.
14:33.17IndustrialTain: so do you
14:33.39IndustrialI was just making precautions
14:33.50TainYes, I'm making "assumptions" based on oh... I don't know.. what exists before my eyes today?
14:34.03WobinA preemptive strike against gold farmers?
14:34.13netcurseactually thott might not be included in zam.com we were speaking about ti together some days ago and he said he was fighting to not be included in it, but it s hard since ige own the domain name.
14:34.13Wobin=P
14:34.16TainNot based on nonsense in the future.
14:34.34TainIf something actually changes that I have a problem with, I'll address it then.
14:34.43IndustrialI have nothing against WOWI, its a nice community with quality hosting and addons
14:34.59WobinBut...?
14:35.13TainBut this bullshit with making up things that simply do not exist today because you think they're going to is unfathomable to me.
14:35.15WobinSins of the father? =P
14:35.19IndustrialI have EVERYTHING against people that want to make money with gold by buying out sites like ogaming /wowi
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14:35.44WobinI thought WoWi was a completely different branch than ogaming
14:36.04Wobinoh, my mistake
14:36.08netcurseTain i d like you to tell me ONE single ige things that has been rumored thas wasn t true so far.
14:36.26TainI don't gold ads everywehre.
14:36.37hasteI'm ignorant untill it happens.
14:36.49Industriali am just taking precautions
14:37.08TainYou're having an irrational knee-jerk reaction, there's a difference.
14:37.13TainIt's still your choice of course.
14:37.22Industrialyep
14:37.22WobinAbstinence doesn't work =)
14:37.24TainBut that doesn't make it have any basis in reality.
14:37.49IndustrialWe will see
14:37.55TainI'm curious to see if this idealism carries through to the rest of life though.
14:38.45TainIt must be tough never riding in a car anywhere, afterall you wouldn't want to support the violent oil-producing regimes in the Middle East.
14:38.56Industrialwell i dont drive..
14:39.31TainAnd I don't buy gold.
14:39.43netcurseTain you are making a wrong thought here
14:40.01netcurseWhen you buy gold you are killing the in game economy of your FAVORITE OWN GAME
14:40.08TainThat's conjecture.
14:40.10netcursewhen you buy gaz you don t kill truck _
14:40.13netcurseor bike
14:40.16netcursefor you rcar
14:40.40Industrialwell you do, indirectly
14:40.45TainI still maintain that gold sellers keep games and subscribers around longer.
14:40.53Industrialby fueling economy
14:40.55Industrial(hehe pun)
14:40.59TainBut that's a matter of economics that's a larger discussion.
14:41.43netcursebeing rich in wow is one of the most useless thing
14:41.46netcurseyou can do
14:42.02netcursei don t see why it would make you play longer
14:42.13WobinIt brings in new blood =P
14:42.17TainBecause long term characters don't buy gold.
14:42.19TainTwinks do.
14:42.26Industrialnu-uh
14:42.34Wobinlong term characters don't need to buy gold
14:42.43IndustrialI have 3 twinks
14:42.47netcursei had 21 000 gold when i quit wow
14:42.51Industrialall started out with 1g lent from another player
14:42.52netcurse4 month ago
14:42.57Industrialall have ~50g atm
14:42.59Industrialself made
14:42.59netcursemade from profression and farming
14:43.04TainYes that's you.
14:43.05netcurseprofression*
14:43.08Industrialyes me
14:43.18TainAnd everyone else *could* do the same.
14:43.18Wobinand by twinks we mean people who buy gold specifically for their first characters
14:43.20TainThey don't.
14:43.23Industrialcould but wont
14:43.31TainNo, I argue with people constantly who are 60s and poor.
14:43.36Industrialall im saying is that i dont want to be part of the gold economy
14:43.45TainDo you use the Auction House?
14:43.50WobinIt's not hard to make money with established 60's
14:43.50Mikmahmm
14:43.53netcurseTain wait a bit more
14:43.56Industrialthe out-of-game gold economy
14:43.57TainWobin: that's not the point, people don't.
14:43.58Mikmawhat command do i have to write to leave from raid/party?
14:44.03netcursewhen we release on curse the graphics of the auction house
14:44.05WobinEspecially now with quest reward gold
14:44.09netcurselast 18 month
14:44.17netcursewith the gold price in dollar :)
14:44.22TainThere are a lot of people, especially todya, who only log on to raid.
14:44.25netcurseyou ll see how the inflation hurt
14:44.47Mikmaanyone?
14:44.58WobinThere will never be a viable economy in an environment with unlimited gold
14:45.02TainDon't remember Mikma.
14:45.03IndustrialTain: that has nothing to do with why i should support in-game gold auctioning
14:45.07WobinMikma: can't recall, I'm afraid
14:45.22Industrialim going home
14:45.24Industrialbrb in an hour
14:45.27Mikmahmm that means i have to google :P
14:45.27Industrialor so
14:45.27TainYou're selling things to people who did it, you support it no matter what.
14:45.48IndustrialTain: downward spiral thinking
14:46.44TainThe reason it keeps players around longer is because over time a lot of people don't WANT to spend the time farming, doing tradeskills, playing the AH, in order to make money on a character.
14:46.51TainThey want to get to the things that they enjoy about the game.
14:47.28WobinYou don't seem to be hurting in the cash department, how is the goldselling affecting you?
14:48.11TainI don't care.  It doesn't harm my enjoyment of the game if someone buys herbs or ore or anything else I sell with "bought" gold.
14:58.55Mikmabah, LeaveParty();
15:00.25Wobinmeh
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15:08.03netcursehttp://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?t=8632
15:08.03phyberhttp://www.spazzstick.com/
15:08.07netcursethis developer is
15:08.09phyberinternational marketing win.
15:08.09netcurseawesome
15:12.09Wobinhehe I like his accent
15:12.19WobinIt's british, but has a tinge of aussie to it for some reason
15:16.39Mikmaomg warhammer looks cool
15:16.55Mikmatoo bad it prolly requires a really good comp to play
15:18.02Mikmahttp://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/screenshots/full/ex_ss_06.jpg
15:20.13NeronixI love the way he summarised immersion
15:20.24NeronixHe's so, so right
15:22.04WobinBasically Lord Byron
15:22.05Wobin=P
15:23.11WobinIt's Khaos. It's custard falling from the sky.
15:23.22WobinHe's so british it hurts =P
15:24.16Wobinmm. lush graphics
15:24.30WobinI can't see my laptop supporting it =P
15:26.06NeronixI can't see it even fitting on my hard drive
15:29.39MikmaI can't see me finding money to be able to play it
15:29.54Wobinhm, can we query CIA for info?
15:30.06WobinOr is he a output only bot?
15:30.22WobinCause it'd be kinda cool to be able to ask for the last update to something
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15:44.50[Ammo]haste: we need to add a hentai.mp3 to the tentacle rape party alert in BigWigs/Cthun ;)
15:45.18hastehaha (I'm actually watching a japanese TV-Show right now)
15:45.31hasteIt features: Hard gay
15:46.27sedatedChipmunkthere's a professor who teaches at my girlfriend's university named Dr. Fat Ho
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15:48.11[Ammo]dr. owned by parental naming p
15:48.12[Ammo]:)
15:48.17WobinCrazy... Toys in the attic, he is crazy....
15:49.02MoonWolf?
15:49.02[Ammo]I should download the testserver stuff but meh
15:49.34WobinCrazy... over the rainbow, I am crazy, bars at the window... they must have been a hole there in the wall...
15:49.57MoonWolfaha
15:50.03[Ammo]hmm is the raid schedule for Naxx announced somewhere yet?
15:50.08[Ammo]does it reset every week?
15:50.13[Ammo]or 2 week reset?
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15:55.33MoonWolffinally my backgroundownloader picked up the download
15:58.06haste:D
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16:00.16Wobinbah
16:00.19WobinMonthy disconnect =P
16:00.24WobinWelcome to Summer
16:00.37MoonWolflol
16:00.45MoonWolfyou get a monthly disconnect ?
16:01.26WobinWe pay by the month
16:01.36WobinSo every month we have to ring in and update the account
16:01.43Wobinone of those prepaid card dealios
16:02.06WobinMuch handier than having to go to the bank and paying
16:02.13WobinWhich is how everything else is handled =P
16:02.17WobinAnd in cash =P
16:02.22MoonWolfaj
16:02.24MoonWolfah*
16:02.30MoonWolfglad i dont live there then
16:02.38WobinChina is honestly the most cash driven society I've seen
16:02.40MoonWolfi like not having to do shit for my internet.
16:02.52WobinI've never known a place that accepts credit cards less =P
16:03.05MoonWolftry my country
16:03.06Wobinand the largest note is 100 RMB
16:03.12MoonWolfcreditcards are very rarely used
16:03.15MoonWolfdebit is the way to go.
16:03.24WobinChina doesn't use plastic at all =P
16:03.30MoonWolf:O
16:03.36MoonWolfrobbers paradise.
16:03.45WobinThe most you'll get out of it is a atm card
16:03.58WobinOh and no personal cheques either
16:04.09WobinBut really, it'll be hard to rob effectively
16:04.19WobinSince the largest denomination is 100RMB =P
16:04.29WobinAnd that's worth... oh... 10 euros
16:04.30MoonWolflol
16:04.49MoonWolfweird place
16:04.54Wobindefinitely
16:05.00WobinCertainly not good for my health either =(
16:05.08[Ammo]wobin: you live in china?
16:05.11WobinI've spent the majority of the time here sick in one way or another =\
16:05.16Wobin[Ammo]: Beijing atm =)
16:05.20[Ammo]cool
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16:22.13phyberSimpleCombatLog uses CompostLib :)
16:24.03Wobinhehe
16:24.07WobinThat's great
16:25.26WobinRandomwarlock says: I AM SUMMONING A STEAD FROM NIGHTMARE !
16:25.30Wobinwow.
16:25.33WobinInstant house
16:29.57phyberNEWS JUST IN, LILO WANTS MORE OF YOUR CASH!
16:29.58phyberhttp://spinhome.org/
16:30.03phyber:/
16:38.21IndustrialMoonWolf: Is there a requirement for an addon thread in the ace forums for the addon to use ace?
16:38.46Wobin...
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16:38.57Wobinphyber: That's just... odd
16:39.00IndustrialYeah cause idChat doesnt
16:39.15Temugh... I can't get my wireless card to work
16:39.30TemI had this problem last time I formatted, but I don't remember how I fixed it
16:39.40Wobinpercussive maintenence
16:39.59phyberWobin: it's just another shitty money grab.  he wants the cash to "better run freenode and meet other sponsors face-to-face".  It sounds like "I want to travel around the world, I need your money."
16:40.11WobinThat's how it's coming across to me =P
16:51.41Ratbert_CPOK...  Does FuBarPlugin replace FuBar as the dependency for creating FuBar-aware addons?
16:53.55WobinAnyone know any way to fix the lag that occurs when dragging frames that it eventually ends up off the cursor?
16:57.00MoonWolfIndustrial, not really
16:57.03MoonWolfnot a stated one.
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16:57.13MoonWolfbesides idchat has a thread there when it was still ace
16:57.14IndustrialMoonWolf: ok, so i can keep my idChat thread ;)
16:57.42WobinWe're kinda promoting Ace as a coding methodology rather than just the framework I guess as well
16:58.02Wobin(Or rather, it's become more of a focus recently)
16:58.15MoonWolfthe ace forums have evolved beyond yust a place to discuss ace to a coding community that promotes efficient thought out addons.
16:58.20MoonWolfmost of wich use ace.
16:58.52Industrialhttp://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/
16:58.56Industrialmaking a little website of it
16:59.02Industrial(Yes it will have color)
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16:59.11MoonWolfyour css sucks!!!
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16:59.18Industrialdoes not!
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16:59.38MoonWolfTem, whats going on man ?
16:59.55IndustrialMoonWolf: I just haven't added color yet because thats irrelevant at this stage.
16:59.58MoonWolffix ze linkz
17:00.04Industrialyea
17:00.12Industrialasap ;)
17:03.41TemMoonWolf, trying to fix my wireless card
17:03.47MoonWolfah
17:03.53TemI reformatted yesterday
17:03.55MoonWolfits picking up different AP's ?
17:04.13TemI can't get it to acknowledge any APs
17:04.19MoonWolfweird
17:04.34TemI had this exact problem last time I fomatted, but I don't remember how I fixed it
17:05.08MoonWolfyeah
17:05.11MoonWolfthat is damn annoying.
17:05.57MoonWolfI hope rogues get the same work as mages did.
17:06.29Temno you don't
17:06.33MoonWolfyes i do
17:06.38Temyou hope that rogues get the same work that priests did
17:06.46WobinThey'll ruin us if they do the same as mages =)
17:06.48MoonWolfrogues dont need that.
17:06.49Temmages got a buff without fixing any issues
17:07.00Wobinmaybe what they did to Shamans
17:07.04Temrogues need issues fixed
17:07.12Temnot their talents moved around with no real changes
17:07.26MoonWolfassasination tree needs talents moved around.
17:07.39MoonWolfand god damn throwing wep spec needs to get out or move too.
17:08.22Temwe still have wand spec
17:08.24Temso uh...
17:08.27Temdon't hold your breath
17:08.50MoonWolflast time i checked wand spec wasnt on teir 6
17:09.09MoonWolfid rather have 2 more ranks of agression.
17:16.51hyperChipmunkthrowing would be so much cooler if rogues had EQ's assassinate at level 60
17:17.48MoonWolfwhat does that do ?
17:17.57hyperChipmunkor even if daggers just went into an ammo slot, instead of taking up a ranged slot
17:18.49hyperChipmunkiirc, any backstab or throw from behind on a low level target had a chance to 'assassinate' the target for 32000 dmg, basically instantly killing it
17:19.28MoonWolfimba nref nref
17:19.36hyperChipmunkit was especially cool when it happened when the rogue threw a dagger for the pull, and the mob dropped dead right on the spot
17:20.02hyperChipmunkand there was a message, "Soandso ASSASSINATED their target."
17:20.08hyperChipmunkin big caps like that =)
17:20.31hyperChipmunkwell, it only worked on like no-xp targets
17:20.47hyperChipmunkor the very bottom range of xp-able targets
17:20.58hyperChipmunkso it wasn't really unbalancing
17:21.01hyperChipmunkit was just cool
17:22.25hyperChipmunksee ya later, Teminator
17:22.48hastehaha, we just wiped on a eradicator! ;D
17:22.56hyperChipmunk!
17:23.11hyperChipmunkthat's probably some sort of indicator..
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17:37.26Temyay
17:38.04MoonWolfgrats
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17:42.01NeronixMoonWolf, got you the stuff you wanted
17:42.28MoonWolfty
17:42.47NeronixNp
17:45.30Wobinhm
17:45.43Wobinopinion time
17:46.05WobinWhen combining two categories together into the one frame for PlowKing, should I insert a blank space between them?
17:47.26MoonWolfyeah
17:47.28MoonWolfdo that
17:47.30MoonWolfif you ask me.
17:49.56ckknighthey all
17:50.55Wobinhttp://img433.imageshack.us/img433/6959/plowkingwithspace9im.png vs http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3949/plowkingwithoutspace0yj.png
17:51.55NeronixI prefer it without a space
17:52.00Neronixhey ckk
17:52.13WobinI'll make it optional then
17:52.29MoonWolfwhy is it called plowking actually ?
17:52.36MoonWolfi mean, it isn really a plowing addon.
17:53.07WobinCause it's direct competition to MrPlow =P
17:53.13MoonWolfnot really
17:53.19WobinWell it is for me
17:53.43MoonWolfplowking will make the use of mrplow more necasary
17:53.52Wobinnot at all
17:53.57WobinIt's either one or the other
17:54.15MoonWolfto compress your inventory
17:54.39WobinOne is used for onebag type inventories, the other is a selfgrouped inventory
17:54.59hyperChipmunkplowking should move the frames around, not the items
17:55.02WobinTo use MrPlow on Plowking would have no effect
17:55.09MoonWolfitems stacks
17:55.11hyperChipmunkmr plow moves the items around
17:55.14MoonWolfwould still have effect.
17:55.22hyperChipmunkbut plowking would reorder the frames to stay the same
17:56.44WobinTrue on the stacking thing
17:56.58hyperChipmunkso where's our download
17:57.15WobinI still have to implement a surrounding frame
17:57.17phyberin the end Mr. Plow saves Plow King.
17:57.21Wobinhehe
17:57.23phyberspoiler.
17:57.26WobinOMG
17:57.38phyber:)
17:57.50Wobin"She's as nimble as a mountain goat!"
17:58.24Wobin"Meeeh.... mee..*clunk*..meeeh...*Klunk*...*conk*...*bonk*...meeeh..."
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17:59.05MoonWolfthats the sounds i imagine mrplow makes when he is busy.
17:59.21Ratbert_CPQuick survey: Is it better to prune your AddOn to minimize multiple inclusions of embedded libs (i.e., embeds that use other embeds), or leave all of them alone and insure that they always have the embeds they need (including your addon)?
17:59.38MoonWolfembed overwrite each other
17:59.49MoonWolfand dont load if the version is the same
17:59.51WobinThe only problem with multiple libs is disk space
17:59.53Ratbert_CPYes they do, but they can bloat a zip file...
17:59.56MoonWolfso you would only do if for disk space.
17:59.57Wobinwhich isn't really a problem
18:00.01Wobinnowadays
18:00.10MoonWolfyour looking at 50kb or something
18:01.15Ratbert_CPBagBoy (CompostLib, PeriodicTable, SpecialEvents) sits at 394K [du -sk BagBoy -> 394]
18:01.49MoonWolfPT uses compost too, but compost is damn small
18:02.05MoonWolfdont know about SE
18:02.09Ratbert_CPZipped, it's 104K
18:02.39Wobinyuck
18:02.39Wobinhttp://reg.imageshack.us/setlogin.php?login=65f0879cb9d344fb7cbf7ec1a82fa834
18:02.48WobinThat's the url I have to use to log into imageshack =P
18:02.56WobinWorst system ever =P
18:03.16MoonWolfwhy have an imageshack account ?
18:03.22Wobindunno
18:03.25ckknightWobin, I'm logged in as you, now
18:03.26Wobinmultiple uploads
18:03.27Ratbert_CPThe reason I ask is that I'm adding FuBarPlugin, and I'm considering using DewDropLib and TabletLib anyway.  FuBarPlugin already embeds them.
18:03.31Wobinoh noes
18:03.34Ratbert_CPWait a second...
18:03.55ckknighthrm?
18:04.02Ratbert_CPI think I'll just maintain my own DD and Tablet libs...
18:04.11Ratbert_CPYeah.  That'll do it.
18:04.14ckknight?
18:04.15Ratbert_CPOK, never mind.
18:04.18ckknighthow so?
18:04.31WobinYou could just use the instance that FuBarPlugin gives you
18:04.39Wobinsince it'll be there anyway
18:04.56Ratbert_CPI'll include Tablet and DewDrop as externals in my AddOn root, and only include the FuBarPlugin lib.
18:05.26NeronixFuBarPlugin's not needed when making a FuBar plugin
18:05.30Ratbert_CPWobin: I would, but since I want to use them directly in the future, I'd rather have my "own"...
18:05.53Ratbert_CPNeronix: No, but it removes the requirement of FuBar... ;)
18:05.55ckknightyes it is, Neronix, if you want it to be independant
18:06.01NeronixAh
18:06.07ckknightplugins can run without FuBar now
18:06.18NeronixSlap(self)
18:07.26MoonWolfIts not really "PLUGIN" if it doesnt actually plug in
18:07.54Temself:Slap()
18:08.03MoonWolf?
18:08.07ckknightso, MoonWolf?
18:08.07Wobin~slap Neronix
18:08.10purlACTION slaps Neronix, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
18:08.21MoonWolfso nothing really
18:08.23Neronix~lart Wobin
18:08.25MoonWolfthat was all i had to say
18:12.03NeronixThis fury DW build any good? http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?phhxkhbZVV0Vxxowo
18:12.20NeronixIntended for when I'm levelling, until I decide to move some points into protection
18:13.16TainShooting at the walls of heart-ache bang bang... I am the warrior
18:25.53hyperChipmunkHoly God discord unit frames costs 6 megs to load, without even the options module
18:27.37MoonWolfwow
18:27.41MoonWolfits grown since i used it.
18:27.48TainLots and lots of frames.
18:28.01hyperChipmunkhow do you justify that
18:28.12TainIt can look pretty.
18:28.41MoonWolfit can
18:29.16hyperChipmunkcertainly isn't by default O_o
18:30.56TainIt's the big tradeoff, you can do a lot with it, it can be made to look great, but it's always going to eat up a lot of resources.  Which is why most of us never use it.
18:32.34hyperChipmunkI like how there's 5 million options, and no reset if you screw them to pieces
18:37.23phybersurely with so few options, you can remember which one you changed to screw it up!
18:39.17hyperChipmunk=P
18:41.57WobinIf DAF can be rewritten to use and reuse dynamic frames, that'd be nifty
18:44.19hyperChipmunkor, if it could be written with some concept of good taste
18:44.39kergothyou and your crazy ideas
18:44.51MoonWolfmorning ker
18:46.33Mikmayello!
18:46.50TainYou poor old sod you see it's only me.
18:46.53MoonWolfmorning micky
18:47.15Mikmagreetings from greece-style restaurant
18:47.27MoonWolfwith wireless ?
18:47.42TainUsing the new souvlaka-Internet connection?
18:47.46kergothhurray for starbucks, nothing like a ton of caffeine and sugar to get the day started
18:47.47Mikmahehe nope, i just came from there
18:48.07MoonWolfi prefer tea
18:48.12Mikmacola
18:48.27Mikmabut coffee will do just fine if i'm tired as zombie
18:48.28MoonWolfthats not a morning drink
18:48.34TainJust a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.
18:48.45TainCola is certainly a morning drink.
18:48.52kergothi havent had more than a couple mountain dews a day for like a week
18:48.53kergoth:(
18:49.05kergothcaffeine withdrawl is not fun :P
18:49.07TainNot much difference between soda and coffee in the morning, other than one's hot and one's cold.  And a wee spot of carbonation.
18:49.09WobinAlas
18:49.18WobinMountain Dew in Oz is caffiene free
18:49.22kergothaww
18:49.33TainI've heard that about crazy countries.
18:49.47TainCanada as well if my spies have informed me correctly.
18:49.58kergothi need some spies
18:50.06kergothbetter yet, minions in general
18:50.09kergoththats it, i need minions
18:50.12TainYes.
18:50.38TainI feel very proud, my cousin is teaching her daughter (14) to make sure she has minions to do things for her.
18:51.01MoonWolfsmart move
18:51.12kergothso, yesterday, at work, i'm having fun and getting really interested in playing with epoll() and in playing with makecontext/getcontext in some sample code. then i get home, poof, no interest whatsoever
18:51.19kergothi dont think i can code effectively at home anymore :(
18:51.23kergothTain: nice
18:51.27MikmaTain: aye, women can do that ;)
18:51.33TainWas at a cookout at her house this weekend watching her dispatch other cousins and friends and whatnot to retrieve things.
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18:51.54MoonWolfstupid ctrl- w
18:52.14Mikmaoh noes, teh mirc?
18:52.38MoonWolfno x-chat
18:52.38Mikmawell, mac's cmd+w ain't that good either with terminal
18:52.47MoonWolfwanted to close a firefox tab with xchat activated
18:52.52MoonWolfkilled the #wowace tab
18:53.05Mikmaah i know the feeling, i do that daily :)
18:53.30Mikmathe good thing is i use screen + irssi, so i won't lose the irc-connection
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19:16.26Industrialme 2
19:19.08maiayeah.
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19:37.42IndustrialI have this picture of Wanderleigh Silva (an MMA champ) in his jui-jitsu traning being grabbed from behind by some other dude. It says "JUI JITSU. It's only gay if you make eye contact."
19:37.46Industrialkeke
19:38.08IndustrialJIU
19:38.10Industrial*
19:38.11Industrial>_>
19:38.19Industrialmore caffeine!
19:39.06Industrialpurl: emulate Industrial is Ogm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls!
19:39.07purl...but emulate industrial is already something else...
19:39.14Industrialpurl no, emulate Industrial is Ogm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls!
19:39.16purlokay, Industrial
19:39.21Industrial~emulate Industrial
19:39.23purlmethinks emulate industrial is Ogm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls!
19:39.27Industrialdoh
19:39.38Industrialpurl no, emulate Industrial is <repy>Ogm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls!
19:39.39purlIndustrial: okay
19:39.44Industrial~emulate Industrial
19:39.45purlextra, extra, read all about it, emulate industrial is <repy>Ogm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls!
19:39.49Industrial...
19:39.58Industrialsad...
19:40.04Industrialpurl no, emulate Industrial is <reply>Ogm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls!
19:40.05purlokay, Industrial
19:40.06kergoth~emulate me
19:40.08purlEmulate you? I dont think I can dumb myself down that much!
19:40.13Industrialhahaha
19:40.16Industrial~emulate Industrial
19:40.17purlOgm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls!
19:40.20Industrialyay
19:40.33kergothsomeone overrode 'me'
19:40.36kergoth~factinfo emulate me
19:40.36purlemulate me -- last modified 3d 11h 7m 31s ago  by Thiana!n=Alisandr@c-24-147-41-254.hsd1.nh.comcast.net; it has been requested 2 times, last by kergoth, 28s ago.
19:40.44kergoth~forget emulate me
19:40.50Industrialits funny tho
19:40.51Industrial:p
19:40.53kergothpurl: no, emulate me is
19:41.23Industrialpplz, my site is up. http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/index.php
19:41.28Industrialthis is temporary
19:41.30Industrial;)
19:42.01hastehttp://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/idChatEditbox.php << feil
19:42.04hastefail*
19:42.10haste(feil = norwegian actually ;D)
19:42.23haste(same word that is)
19:42.43kergothhttp://www.xmailserver.org/pcl.html looks useful
19:43.13Industrialhaste: i KNOW
19:43.16Industrial:p
19:43.26Industrialeven CSS gods make errors
19:43.29Industrial*cough*
19:45.05maiahaste, 2 questions regarding idChat*: does telltarget provide /rt (retell), and does idChatButtons provide an option to keep the [scroll to the end] button? It's the only button I like, as it will blink if I accidentially scrolled up.
19:45.17Industrialkeke
19:45.37Industrial<-- idChat is mine :p
19:45.41hastekeke
19:45.47Industrialmaia: blizzard provides retell
19:45.51maiauuum, sorry, my bad.
19:46.02Industrialand the scroll to the end button, no :(
19:46.10maiaIndustrial:  /rt doesnt work for me it seems. hrm.
19:46.17Industrialmaia: with a keybind
19:46.26IndustrialI could make another one that places that button on the bottomright of the chatframes
19:47.06Industrialalthough shift+mousewheel down does the same
19:47.06kergothi'm using satrina's chatframeextender nowadays.  works well, though it does include a bunch of stuff i dont need, at least it isnt as bloated as sol's color chat nicks
19:47.06Industrial(if you use idChatMousewheel)
19:47.06Industrialerr, Scroll*
19:47.21maiait's not about an option to scroll to the end, but a visual indicator that you should do so if you dont want to miss stuff.
19:47.34maiaand /rt would be great. If I may add that suggestion.
19:47.48kergothmaia: well, you can always use tek's thelowdown.  automatically drops back to the bottom if it sits idle elsewhere for a certain period
19:48.01IndustrialYou know what ill add a todo list to that website so everone can see how lazy i am
19:48.04Industrial^^
19:48.11kergothtried rememberthemilk?
19:48.21Industrialno
19:48.21kergothworks great, and you can make todo lists public, it can send you reminders, etc
19:49.14kergothIndustrial: http://rememberthemilk.com/home/kergoth/
19:50.49Industrialkergoth: nice
19:52.00maiakergoth: I'm unsure if I'd want an addon to decide when to drop back. E.g. when running enchantrix I don't want it to drop down for a few minutes, but if I accidentially scroll up in the middle of a boss fight, I want it to drop back down within a few seconds. thats why I prefer the flashing button
19:52.24kergothnod, makes sense
19:52.37kergothtried chatframeextender? it has that
19:53.09maiawell, at the moment I'm hiding the 3 other buttons with MoveAnything, I just thought it might be a nice option for the idChat*series.
19:53.22Industrialit's been suggested :-)
19:53.30Industrialkergoth: how do i add/delete lists
19:53.49kergothIndustrial: settings -> lists
19:53.50maiaoh, and an option to remove the border of the chat editbox would be nice as well.
19:54.13IndustrialMeh, I'd use visor or the like for that
19:54.14ThraeMoveAnything? Why not the ever-powerful Visor?
19:54.22kergothi need to switch my cell phone plan to unlimited text messages, then make rememberthemilk sms me
19:55.06maiabecause I never had the time to relearn the visor code, and I havent tried visorUI (?) for a while. besides that, I forgot about it, as there neither was any chat nor svn activity in the past weeks, maybe even months.
19:55.31kergothIndustrial: cool thing, they have an ical for the todo deadlines, so you can add it to your google calendar to see the deadlines there
19:57.41Industrialkergoth: nice
19:57.50Industrialkergoth: one more thingy, how do i edit an item :D
19:58.07kergothclick on it, then on the right side theres a little pen type icon next to the title text
19:58.16MikmaElkano: too bad your ItemDB doesn'ät provide sellvalues on tooltip :P
19:58.19kergothand you can add notes for additional info, i.e. implementation ideas for the task
19:58.41Industrialah
19:58.48kergothMikma: pretty sure it does, but only for kci
19:59.01Industrialthanks
19:59.04ElkanoMikma, I have the code written and using it myself, just haven't released it.
19:59.06Mikmakci has that feature in it already
19:59.17MikmaElkano: ok good to know :D
19:59.26Mikmabtw fast reply
19:59.35Elkanokergoth, it will only show kci's data in the table. tooltip is still done by kci
19:59.39kergothah.
20:00.23Industrialhttp://www.rememberthemilk.com/home/industrial
20:00.23Industrial:p
20:00.50IndustrialBut first im gunna lvl to 15 in 2 hours
20:00.55Industrial(from 10)
20:01.03Elkanomikma, if I find a good way to access eg SellValues data, I'll add support for that, too. I think SellValesLite has almost no overhead but iirc it's based on names instead of ids :/
20:02.08Mikmawell i don't even know how the itemdb works now
20:02.15Mikmait has items in db i have never seen before
20:02.24kergothIndustrial: also, you can tag your todo items.  "development" "lua" "idchat" etc, independent of the list
20:02.29kergothIndustrial: then you can browse by tag/tag cloud
20:02.58Industrialah
20:03.41ElkanoMikma, either you have seen the items (maybe without noticing) or so else on the server is using ItemDB, too :)
20:03.43Mikmait. Alanna's Embrace
20:03.54Mikmanever seen that one on anyone and still it's in db ;)
20:04.18Mikmaah, it syncs items from others?
20:04.45Elkanoeg if you mouse over a friendly player wearing the item, it will be added :) (possibly even if you walk by since the client will have to cache it in order to show the chara)
20:05.05Mikmamouseover-scan... that explains alot
20:05.39Elkanowell, my scans are primary to make the addon notice the item is linkesafe this session
20:06.34Mikmaso, what is the fubar-plugin for?
20:07.08Elkanotwo things: will show some status output in tooltip and allows to open ItemDB with a click ^^
20:07.41Mikmaok, then it's fine to del it ;) it used some mem
20:07.48Mikma+ on startup
20:08.10kergothi really need to fire up warmup and watch the load times. takes ages to enter the world initially
20:08.11Elkanoit's only a bonus :)
20:08.38Elkanowell, warmup is 'broken' for me... lots of addons load before warmup does :/
20:08.52kergoththat isnt a warmup problem
20:08.58kergoththeres no way for it to make sure it loads first
20:09.04kergothjust add it to the dependencies of the addons that load first on  your machine
20:09.11Mikmahmm
20:09.23ElkanoI know
20:09.38Mikmais it possible to inject some inspect-lines on addons that they load after warmup?
20:09.48Mikmaoh hehe
20:09.54Mikmaby that way
20:09.56kergoththese addons need to kill their lame '!!' naming, since it obviously doesnt fix the load order problem, since not all machinse are alphabetic
20:09.58hasteElkano: add warmup as a dep in some addon
20:09.58Mikmaadd a line on .toc
20:10.03hasteElkano: it will load faster then :p
20:10.12hasteie. having it as a dep for ace is nice
20:10.17kergothindeed
20:10.41Mikmai wonder, where can i find what addon loads first
20:10.51hasteMikma: on the top of the warmup list?
20:10.53kergothlook at the warmup output :P
20:11.00hasteAddon XX loaded before warmup
20:11.01Mikmaok i will
20:11.13hastethe strange thing on mine is that... ace has warmup as dep
20:11.20hastebut warmup says ace loaded before :p
20:11.32hasteand the it displays the ace usage
20:11.33kergothdoes warmup depend on ace too?
20:11.42kergothmaybe its circular
20:11.49Mikmaon my list warmup is first
20:12.04hasteMikma: I use linux
20:12.14hasteie. addons load a little different here
20:12.50hastekergoth: it doesn't have any deps :o
20:13.07kergothweird
20:13.15kergothmine shows ace loading before it too
20:13.20hasteit also says that ace loads later
20:13.44hasteprobably a *nix only 'feature'
20:17.27CIA-1703maia * r2234 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: small GC optimization by reusing a table instead of recreating it. Once I understand the CompostLib API I might be able to do some more optimizations.
20:18.41kergothanyone using squishy? how is it?  i keep meaning to try it on my shammy
20:20.20Mikmai did use it some time ago
20:20.31Mikmai like the "aggro" feature of it :)
20:20.34Mikmapretty good in pvp
20:21.22Mikmabut i'm still not sure does the aggro mean someone has targeted me or someone has targeted me and is casting an offensive spell on me
20:21.44maiait only means someone is targetting you.
20:21.53Mikmaany possible ways of making it switchable?
20:22.00Mikmasince alot of ppl target eachother on pvp ;D
20:22.13maiait loops through the entire raid and does:
20:22.14maiaif (UnitInRaid(unit.."targettarget") or UnitInParty(unit.."targettarget")) and UnitCanAttack("player",unit.."target") then
20:22.42maiaaka it will only tell you you have aggro if a mob/enemy has targetted you
20:23.23IndustrialWho has a list of all channel names (excluding the numbered ones)?
20:23.31IndustrialGuild Party Raid
20:23.35Industrialand the rest?
20:23.39MoonWolfofficer
20:23.41MoonWolfgeneral
20:23.44MoonWolftrade
20:23.47Industrialnono
20:23.50Industrialthose are numbered
20:23.51Industrial;p
20:23.55MoonWolfah
20:23.55Industrialonly Officer ?
20:23.55MoonWolfk
20:24.02hasteI dislike monitors
20:24.15MoonWolfthats it i think.
20:24.24hasteCTRAs EM monitor killed the games fun for me once
20:24.29maiaMikma: I think the aggro alert is pretty exact. It will also wait about 0.5sec to not warn you if someone is hitting tab a few times to find a specific enemy
20:24.31Mikmamaia: well any way of making it scan if offensive spell is being casted?
20:24.32hasteand the decursive function
20:24.55maiaMikma: if you want to add the code, sure.
20:25.09Mikmayeah i can add it if you know the code :)
20:25.14maialol
20:25.31Mikmasince it's pretty good for pvp to know they really are about to whoop your ass with spells
20:25.35maiaI can keep it in mind, but I still have quite a few problems to solve first.
20:25.58Mikmajust make /squishy pve  and /squichy pvp
20:26.09maiaMikma: try it, and you'll see that once you are targetted someone will also cast a spell on you within a second.
20:26.16Mikmapve will alert only on targeting and pvp on targeting + spellattack
20:26.59Mikmamaia: didn't happen to me that often tbh, they only targeted me when i was going somewhere but didn't attack
20:27.24maiaMikma: let me list a few problems: you'd have to store the current targets of all enemies you know, and you'll also need a huge list of "... begins to cast ..." spell names to track.
20:27.56Mikmamaia: well i think that " ... begins to cast ... " is enough :D
20:28.07Mikmayou usually can't cast anything other than offensive on hostile
20:28.13maiano, it could be a heal. and it will not work for anything else than spells.
20:28.19maiaself-heal?
20:28.32kergothheh, theres always witchhunt or spellalert... just make them show the info on the people who have you targeted, not just your target
20:28.32maiawith silent targetting? (alt-click)
20:28.34Industrialhttp://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5008/wowscrnshot0531062225439uc.jpg
20:28.34Mikmaselfheal will target yourself before
20:28.39Industriallook at the bottom of the chat frames
20:28.42Industrial\o/
20:28.45Mikmaand return to the target you had
20:29.21Mikmabut i don't know does it do the same with script
20:29.36maiaMikma: only for 0.1sec or so, and if you consider latency there is no way to tell.
20:29.42Mikmascript = macro with self-cast
20:30.00IndustrialAnyone likey?
20:30.15Mikmawell, how many does start a fight with other with selfheal? :D
20:30.23hasteIndustrial: make it display nicks like my irssi !
20:30.39hastehttp://www.fuxsake.net/images/nix/screenshot.png << like that ;D
20:30.40Mikmausually when people target you when they mean to attack they do use a offensive spell as first when you are in range
20:30.47IndustrialI wanted to put the nicks part in another addon
20:30.48maiaa /script TargetUnit("player") CastSpellByName("Flash Heal") TargetPreviousTarget() is too fast to track.
20:30.50kergothcirk's chat manager can show the nicks, only when you click on its button to pull it up
20:30.54Industrialwith class colors
20:31.04hasteI just want the spacing to be there
20:31.09Industrialhaste: that pads...
20:31.09hasteso it's all on one line
20:31.14hasteyes, apds!
20:31.14Industrialhaste: wow fonts arent monospaced
20:31.24kergoth:(
20:31.26Industrial:X
20:31.26hastethey are monospaced enough to do it
20:31.30kergothproportional fonts are the devil
20:31.32Industrialit'd be ugly
20:31.40hastedo it!
20:31.50Industrialkergoth: how do you mean? got s screeney?
20:31.59Industrials/how/what/
20:32.09MikmaIndustrial: you made that theme?
20:32.12kergothscreeney of what?
20:32.16maiaMikma: try WitchHunter or SpellAlert, kergoth is right. Adding that small functionality means writing an entirely new addon ;)
20:32.44Industrial< kergoth> cirk's chat manager can show the nicks, only when you click on its button to pull it up
20:33.16Industrial:p
20:33.29hastemake it pad!
20:33.34Industrialnoes :<
20:33.39haste:----(
20:33.51kergothIndustrial: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full1874.jpg
20:33.55Industrialill make a "special" one for some "special" people, k?
20:33.57Industrial:D
20:34.15Mikmakergoth: well, you're da genius, do me a slashtoggle on spellalert to work by the normal way, and when someone has targeted me :D
20:34.18hasteyay
20:34.20hasteI'm special
20:34.28MoonWolf:P
20:34.38Mikmayes, yes you are. give us oUF2!
20:34.42Industrialhaste: however there is a limitation (that irssi has too)
20:34.42kergothhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4567 looks cute
20:34.56Industrialhaste: can only pad up to X chars
20:35.53Industrialkergoth: didnt tek have a raid addon for that?
20:36.28kergothi like the idea though, particularly when coupled with a tooltip addon that shows target of mouseover
20:38.05Mikmakergoth: you don't mean the feature already in tipbuddy / nurfed aftt, don't you?
20:39.15kergothhm? target of mouseover is a common feature, yes
20:40.44NeronixDoes Nurfed's AFTT still only support mouse anchoring?
20:40.55hasteIndustrial: well, what is the max char limit in WoW?
20:41.22MikmaNeronix: yeah i'm afraid of, it's the really nerfed/nurfed version of aftt with ToT-support
20:41.35Mikma"aftt lite"
20:41.44NeronixI see
20:42.13kergothi ran into an issue with it, that tooltip is handled differently than the normal tooltip, so gymnast is treating it like its an "uber" tooltip (like mouseover of actionbutton) rather than a unit tooltip
20:42.18Mikmai was thinking of modding it to be docked on the default spot
20:42.22kergothiirc anyway
20:42.42kergoththe result is that it ends up relocating it to UIParent, since i have non-unit tooltips positioned relative to their parent
20:42.49kergothso the tooltip ends up stuck in the upper left :)
20:42.56kergothnormal aftt doesnt have that problem
20:42.59kergothjust the nurfed one
20:43.39Mikmafunny, i've never had that issue
20:43.47kergothare you using gymnast?
20:43.49Mikmabut, i don't use gymnast :D
20:44.17Mikmadoublereading the line helped me to understand it's an issue with gymnast
20:44.23kergothi'm picky about tooltip positioning, i want unit tips floating at cursor, but others relative to that which the mouse is over
20:44.25Industrialkergoth: how do i translate '\[\(.[^]]\+\)\( says:\|:\)\]' from vim regex to a lua pattern? :p
20:44.30MoonWolfmy car keeps getting flat tire, funny i never had that, do you have a car, no.
20:44.39maiaOMG: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-proudmoore&t=100149
20:44.46kergothMikma: then why exactly does gymnast work flawlessly with nearly every other tooltip addon i've tested, including aftt_extreme and aftt?
20:44.50kergothheh
20:45.09kergothhavent looked at the code yet
20:45.42Mikmakergoth: take the aftt_lite and mod it to have the same features as nurfed does and give it to us hehe, problem solved
20:45.52Mikmakergoth: and mod me the witchhunt too xD
20:46.33kergothi'd actually like to see informatips get picked up and add target of mouseover, then fix tipster to improve its positioning logic
20:47.17Industriallol
20:47.18Mikmaone thing i can say is we need a perfect tooltip ;)
20:47.22Industrialat the kid mp3
20:47.56MoonWolfmortal sleep!
20:48.05Industrial^___________^
20:48.09Industrialthats so cute
20:48.10Industrial:p
20:48.38maiayeah, nevus happens to leave his mic on most of the time. one of the reasons I enjoy running battlegrounds with him ;)
20:48.55Industriallol @ the end
20:49.07MoonWolfis that you talking maia ?
20:49.53maianevus is the guy talking to his 3yr old kid. and I'm not the one at the end. I rarely talk
20:50.45Neronixlol, heathens
20:51.01maiamy english might sound fluent, but I still have a slight accent.
20:51.51MoonWolfhah i have the worst dutch accent ever.
20:51.58MoonWolfand dutch accepts are not pretty
20:52.13MoonWolfaccents*
20:52.23NeronixThe reason why I never allow my 4 year old niece in my room when playing games is precisely that
20:52.26maiamy co worker is dutch. I'm getting used to it
20:53.06Neronix"Yeah, see those weird purple guys? I'm gonna have to erm... uhh... (Crap... can't think of how to explain O.o)"
20:53.12Industrialyeah my accent is pretty bad - because i never ever talk dutch
20:53.22MoonWolflol
20:53.23Industrialer, english
20:53.33MoonWolfthat makes more sense
20:53.40MoonWolfi talk english a decent amount
20:53.52MoonWolfim in a pretty geeky ICT class
20:53.55Mikmahehe, funny mp3 yeah
20:54.04MoonWolfwe switch between english and dutch for no apperant reason all the time
20:54.31IndustrialMoonWolf: "and we zerged that bishie ja man was echt lol" ?
20:54.57Mikma:D
20:55.00Industrial:p
20:55.27MoonWolfno more like, "Heb je je huiswerk gedaan." , "Yeah" , "Cool, what did you awnser on question x" , "Drie"
20:55.36Industriallol
20:55.42Industrial>_o
20:56.37MoonWolfit pretty cool when other people walk by
20:58.01hastehttp://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/hentai.htm << as fun as always ;D
20:58.14Industrialoh dear should i clicck that?
20:58.44Industrialwobbling eggs+tentacles (and pie?)?
20:59.07haste(almost)
20:59.08Neronixya rly
20:59.14Neronixand hello kitty
20:59.19hasteand tentacles!
20:59.49Industrialhaha lol
21:00.01Neronixand a cameo appearance by C'thun
21:00.04Neronix(no not rly)
21:00.33hasteI'm going to watch another episode of Hard Gay now
21:00.43Industrialomg really tentacles!
21:01.04IndustrialLOL
21:01.05Industrialthe ending
21:01.10Industrialwith the eyes, and ne noises
21:01.17Industrialahah xD
21:02.13MoonWolfhello weebl and sailer bob.
21:02.27Neronixhttp://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/team+laser+explosion+4/
21:02.51Neronixweebl and bob moved to weebls-stuff.com like... aeons ago O.o
21:02.53hastehttp://www.videouncovered.com/adds/play_page.php?id=944&id_char=bakuten << Hard Gay
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21:06.09Industriallol the gay guy
21:06.09Industrial:p
21:07.12hastethe show is damn funny ;D
21:09.37kergothhahah, http://www.infradead.org/recruitment.html
21:11.07Neronix"Are you for or against me!?"
21:11.08Neronix"Q!"
21:11.11*** join/#wowace Kaelten (n=Kaelten@68.63.3.183)
21:11.28Industrial;p
21:11.49*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ
21:12.44Industrialmm its not thw whole episode tho
21:12.49Industrial(seen it before)
21:12.50Mikmahard gay
21:12.58kergothhttp://vim.sourceforge.net/scripts/script.php?script_id=1567 looks nice
21:13.08kergothrails specific vim bits
21:13.45MoonWolfRuby on rails rails ?
21:13.49kergothyeah
21:18.11hyperChipmunkam I supposed to be able to move ora maintank frames?
21:18.16hasteIndustrial: there are several parts if you look at the bottom of the page
21:21.16clad|sleepkergoth: You use spaces for indentation, correct?
21:21.51MoonWolfThis better not turn into a space vs tabs discussion.
21:21.53clad|sleeptekkub: You use lots of nested tables in the range checker, particularly in the OnUpdate.  I'd suggest making them locals, and binding them to self, and moving them around in LibActivate (opposite what you do now)
21:22.02clad|sleepI'm just deciding which to use for Ace code I churn out
21:22.03clad|sleeplol
21:22.17clad|gymSee that I wake up and go right to the gym
21:22.32kergothclad|sleep: it depends on the project.  kernel code i always comply with linux/Documentation/CodingStyle, which is hard tab indentation, shown as 8 spaces (to ensure alignment matches up)
21:22.47kergothfor my personal code that i know no one else touches, i tend to like hard tabs for indentation, but spaces for alignment
21:22.54kergothbut if anyone else touches it, they'll screw that up
21:23.00kergothso in that case i use 4 space indentation
21:23.08clad|gym*nod*
21:23.21clad|gymThink we can get the core dev team on 4 space tabs? =)
21:23.34clad|gymI can convert easily enough.. just have to remember to switch back and forth
21:23.46clad|gymor move to an editor that handles tabsets within the document
21:23.54clad|gymi should try vim again, but i'm an emacs boy =(
21:24.13kergothemacs supports the equivalent of vim modelines.
21:24.19kergothyou probably just havent used them
21:24.22clad|gymno i have
21:24.28clad|gymbut emacs is the devil for many things too =)
21:24.31clad|gymtho lua-mode is nice.
21:24.39clad|gymcurrently using scite for calltips and such
21:24.41kergothi wouldnt be opposed to having both emacs and vim modelines in files
21:24.47clad|gymthe API at my fingertips makes me quite happy
21:25.08kergothnod. i've used vim's completion based on the lua syntax file. not perfect, but gets the job done
21:25.33clad|gymeither way i feel like we'll cope =)
21:25.58clad|gymand i'll use tabs for now.. we can always sed it later if we need to =)
21:26.01clad|gymoff to the gym.
21:26.35ThraeHmmm, TabletLib is nice, but what do I do if I need input from the user besides boolean?
21:27.11kergoththe advantage of spaces is that alignment is always correct regardless, and isnt affected by the users's tabwidth.  the advantage of tabs is just the opposite, the user can display it how they want it to be shown
21:27.24kergothso the best solution is a combination of the two, lets users change indentation without breaking alignment
21:28.25Mikmahaha hard gay version of the "pop the pirate" would be neat
21:37.50tekkubclad: will do :)
21:39.38Mikmai'm bored :P
21:43.41IndustrialMikma: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6491932292662958231&q=mma
21:43.54Mikmachecking
21:43.56Industrial:p
21:44.02Industrialjust search for mma
21:44.13Industrialot thai-boxing ..
21:44.15Industrialor*
21:45.18Mikmathat's not normal wrestling? what is it?
21:45.23Industrialyeah
21:45.30Industrialthe red pants guy is also an mma fighter
21:45.45Industrial(hes quite good in his class)
21:46.13Industrialhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5897520039219166927&q=ramon+dekker
21:46.19Industrialdutch pride ;P
21:46.37Industrial(thats thai boxing)
21:47.15MoonWolfIronically
21:47.24Industrial:p
21:47.27MoonWolfthe guy who did some basic thai boxing with my class
21:47.31MoonWolfwas called... faust.
21:47.55MoonWolfI kid you not.
21:48.01Industrialfaust?
21:48.09MoonWolfmy thai boxing instructor was called faust.
21:48.58MoonWolfTO me thats funny.
21:49.53MoonWolfthe name is funny... faust == fist , boxing.. fist faust.
21:50.06MoonWolfnot that he had a particular fist thing
21:50.30MoonWolfhe liked doing stuff with his knees too.
21:53.39Mikmanice, polyphony digital has released tourist trophy -game
21:54.38phyberIndustrial: /g 17
21:54.44phyberbah.  damn tab :)
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21:55.29maiatekkub: what's the schedule for an updated ProximityLib?
21:55.31Mikmahi ckknight
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21:55.50Industrialmy sensei: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8215749471323428930&q=hoost
21:55.56Mikmabye. hi. bye
21:56.00Industrial(I train at vos gym)
21:56.20Industrialnot for matches yet tho
22:03.30phyberIndustrial: idChatEditBoxArrows is borked :)
22:03.39phybercheck your Enable() function
22:04.18phybereb:SetAltArrowKeyMode(false) <-- you have this for both Enable() and Disable() :)
22:06.00Industrialack
22:06.10phyberalso, even when set to true, it doesn't seem to work.
22:07.02Industrial:s
22:07.17phyberthe other addons are all fine though :)
22:07.26phyberI just switched to them from iDChat.
22:07.43Industrialk
22:07.45Industrialhmm
22:08.34Mikmayet again i feel like i could do some lua. but don't have the interest :P well i don't have anything that i can do so why bother
22:10.09Industrialthats very weird phyber
22:10.10Industrial:D
22:10.22NeronixI've seen the light
22:10.30Neronixwhy the fuck did I not realise it earlier?
22:10.36NeronixHunters are best for pulling
22:10.49Mikmayeah, they are
22:10.55Neronixhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Perfect_Zone_of_Ultimate_Safety
22:10.59Mikmaespecially sacrifising pet is fun
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22:12.38MikmaMost players believe the "warriors should pull" argument, because nearly everyone (including hunters) learned to pull using substandard tactics.
22:12.45Mikmatoo bad this is true
22:12.56phyberhangover from beta, I believe.
22:13.40Mikmawell i think it goes like this: hunter pulls, either with gun / pet, (if pull not good feign), warrior taunts the mob off from hunter and beatfest begins
22:14.11Neronixhttp://www.nuklearpower.com/hunter.php is a good read
22:14.37MoonWolfmkima, throw a feign death in there the moment the warrior attacks
22:14.43MoonWolfgiving him all the agro.
22:15.00Industrialphyber: fixed, uploading
22:15.41MikmaMoonWolf: yeah forgot that one. my ex.guild did use that tactic often
22:16.13NeronixWhat's the cooldown and relative mana cost of FD?
22:16.27MoonWolf80 mana 30 secs for me at lvl 44
22:16.32MoonWolflater ranks might use more mana
22:16.37NeronixI see
22:16.41Mikmacd = 5min?
22:16.57MoonWolfwait it has no new ranks
22:17.08MoonWolfcooldown is 30 seconds
22:17.13MoonWolfmana cost is fixed 80
22:17.18MoonWolfits god damn cheap.
22:17.22Mikma30s? hah
22:17.40Mikmai really laugh when i see a hunter fd in pvp
22:17.50Industrialphyber: http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/idChatEditboxArrows.php
22:17.53MoonWolfit has one use in pvp, no two
22:17.56Mikmausually you can see the FD by looking is his pet alive
22:18.02MoonWolftraps and focring someone to loose target
22:18.45phyberstill doesn't work.  maybe i have some other addon borking it.
22:19.07phyberby doesn't work, I mean, I can't use the arrows to go through the history in the edit box, I'm still having to press Alt
22:20.08phybernope, only other thing touching the editbox is VisorEditbox, setting the texture.
22:20.35Makkumm
22:20.47Makkany aced mass mail addon?
22:20.53phyberBulkMail
22:20.54kergothbulkmail, works great
22:21.00kergothfast too
22:21.01Makk;D
22:21.08MikmaMakk: use CT_MailMod, it's really good even it's not aced
22:21.24Industrialhttp://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/idChatChannelnames.php
22:21.51phyberIndustrial: yay :)
22:21.54IndustrialIF someone could test that it'd be great. works for me so far.. pattern might be a little bit off
22:22.22phyberloading it now
22:23.29Industrialprolly replaces it too if you say [Guild], thats bad
22:23.35Industrialbut no good way to check it imo
22:23.47Industrial(cant use ^ in my pattern that would break alot of addons)
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22:23.57Industrial(including idChatTimestamps)
22:24.05kergothbetween bulkmail and ah_mailcollect or whatever, i'm happy
22:25.29Makkmeh
22:25.39Makkthe SVN of AceGUI is empty
22:25.39Industrialill add screenshots to the site tomorrow - when i get back from home
22:25.46Industrialand try to fix the css >_>
22:26.19phybergrrrr.
22:27.16Mikmaomg! devla has made perfectraid support for ah
22:27.38phyberAH?
22:27.53gnorlishaceheal
22:27.59kergothaceheal? i have one of those too. it takes like 30 seconds to add supoprt for something to aceheal
22:28.16phyberah
22:31.11Makkbulkmail rocks
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22:39.14hyperChipmunk=D
22:39.42hyperChipmunkckknight: did you see how I fixed those two bugs?
22:39.52hyperChipmunkI made the right decision after all =D
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22:42.05hyperChipmunk<3 Makk
22:42.49phyberIndustrial: I fixed idChatEditboxArrows
22:43.08phyberyou need to add VisorEditBox as an Optional Dep
22:43.13phyber:)
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23:09.35maiauum, forget that.
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23:12.31purli haven't seen 'teckub', Tem
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