irclog2html for #wowace on 20060619

`00:00.33`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2900 10AceLibrary/ (AceAddon-2.lua AceAddon-3.lua AceAddon-OnEmbedDisable-1.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - added unit tests`
`00:05.49`	`maia`	`Kebinusan: still there?`
`00:07.45`	`haste`	`time to poke dewdrop to death`
`00:07.58`	`Wobin`	`~poke dewdrop`
`00:08.02`	`purl`	`ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind dewdrop, pokes dewdrop repeatedly, hilarity ensues`
`00:08.19`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`00:08.24`	`Wobin`	`that's such a great line...'hilarity ensues' =)`
`00:08.41`	`ckknight`	`I don't know what to do next for Ace2`
`00:09.16`	`haste`	`:O`
`00:10.01`	`ckknight`	`I know there's AceOptions to do and such`
`00:10.06`	`ckknight`	`but that's not my ballpark`
`00:10.50`	`Wobin`	`AceOptions?`
`00:10.57`	`haste`	`look on the forum`
`00:11.02`	`maia`	`ckknight: might sound like a strange question, but is dewdrop going to be added to Ace in some way? Or will we have to continue to define all options once for the chat handlers and once for dewdrop?`
`00:11.07`	`haste`	`Think the project is dead or something`
`00:11.26`	`ckknight`	`maia, AceOptions will have at minimum two modules`
`00:11.33`	`ckknight`	`one for chat, one for dewdrop`
`00:11.38`	`maia`	`hm.`
`00:11.40`	`ckknight`	`they'll take the same tables or something`
`00:11.48`	`maia`	`oh, thats great news.`
`00:11.49`	`ckknight`	`or something`
`00:11.49`	`haste`	`I have to find a way to make; tables -> dewdrop`
`00:11.54`	`ckknight`	`this is what I've heard.`
`00:12.01`	`ckknight`	`I'm not doing that`
`00:12.05`	`ckknight`	`that's clad and Tekkub`
`00:12.21`	`haste`	`I "have" to do it, I dislike the way I have to use dewdrop in oUF :<`
`00:12.24`	`ckknight`	`if I had my way, I'd do away with chat commands :-P`
`00:12.39`	`maia`	`ckknight: ...and only use dew instead?`
`00:12.39`	`Wobin`	`haste: That'd be kinda cool`
`00:12.41`	`ckknight`	`why, haste?`
`00:12.47`	`ckknight`	`maia, pretty much`
`00:12.51`	`haste`	`ckknight, I want one menu for everything`
`00:12.59`	`ckknight`	`just make the menu pop up in the middle of the screen`
`00:13.02`	`Wobin`	`So you could plug in the current AceMenus directly into dewdrop?`
`00:13.11`	`ckknight`	`AceMenus?`
`00:13.16`	`Wobin`	`er chatcmds`
`00:13.19`	`haste`	`so if people like hC makes partytarget, I want it have options that aren't the same as the rest`
`00:13.25`	`haste`	`(okey I suck as examples)`
`00:13.27`	`ckknight`	`you may need to upgrade them to Ace2, Wobin`
`00:13.54`	`ckknight`	`haste, yea, I dunno what you're saying.`
`00:13.59`	`Wobin`	`would it be dewdrop:AddLine() or AceMenu:AddLine()?`
`00:14.09`	`maia`	`ckknight: oh, if you don't know what else to add to Ace2: I'm desperately waiting for demo addons that explain each of the new ace modules.`
`00:14.17`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`00:14.19`	`ckknight`	`okay, maia`
`00:14.22`	`ckknight`	`I could do that.`
`00:14.25`	`ckknight`	`Wobin, shrug`
`00:14.29`	`maia`	`you're my hero.`
`00:14.32`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: umh something funny's going on with clique`
`00:14.35`	`Wobin`	`woohoo!`
`00:14.45`	`ckknight`	`Wobin, depends on how the community feels.`
`00:14.47`	`ckknight`	`honestly.`
`00:15.00`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: Probably.. but.. what?`
`00:15.09`	`Wobin`	`I guess for myself, it'd more be about recognisable naming conventions`
`00:15.18`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: seems like alt+leftclick doesn't work on oUF2 Party2 and 3`
`00:15.19`	`Wobin`	`(esp if you're coming from the outside)`
`00:15.35`	`ckknight`	`maia, oh, btw, you honestly don't need to use AceAddon to use the modules`
`00:15.40`	`ckknight`	`maia, with the new setup`
`00:15.47`	`Wobin`	`like if we entice someone new over to the dark side, they won't be confused with random names`
`00:15.49`	`haste`	`Mikma, might be 'cause alt clicking on the frames = moving`
`00:16.08`	`Mikma`	`haste: still, it works on player+party1`
`00:16.11`	`ckknight`	`maia, it's just that the standard way will be to use AceAddon, but it's not explicitly needed`
`00:16.14`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: If you edit it, what do you see?`
`00:16.24`	`ckknight`	`you could make your own class that inherits from AceEvent or whatnot.`
`00:16.39`	`maia`	`ckknight: well, I've seen AceAddon, AceHooks, AceEvents and probably quite a number of additional stuff - and I'm not really sure how addons will use them.`
`00:16.40`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: Rejuvenation as name. nothing else`
`00:16.49`	`ckknight`	`okay, I thought of one thing to add to AceAddon (TOC info injection)`
`00:16.53`	`cladhaire`	`and when you click Alt-left click, it does nothing?`
`00:17.12`	`Wobin`	`~poke TOC`
`00:17.13`	`purl`	`ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind TOC, pokes TOC repeatedly, hilarity ensues`
`00:17.21`	`Wobin`	`damn wrong one`
`00:17.23`	`haste`	`Fear the table of content!`
`00:17.24`	`Wobin`	`~poke TOC`
`00:17.26`	`purl`	`ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind TOC, pokes TOC repeatedly, hilarity ensues`
`00:17.28`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: it _tries_ to cast rejuvenation rank6 but doesn't`
`00:17.31`	`Wobin`	`~literal poke`
`00:18.02`	`Wobin`	`~listkeys poke`
`00:18.14`	`cladhaire`	`does it say anything?`
`00:18.20`	`ckknight`	`~literal poke $1`
`00:18.21`	`purl`	`ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind $1, pokes $1 repeatedly, hilarity ensues`
`00:18.26`	`Wobin`	`meh`
`00:18.31`	`Wobin`	`I was after the one with the needle`
`00:18.34`	`ckknight`	`~literal poke (.*?)`
`00:18.35`	`purl`	`ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind (.?), pokes (.?) repeatedly, hilarity ensues`
`00:18.46`	`Wobin`	`~stab TOC`
`00:18.48`	`purl`	`ACTION runs at TOC with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.`
`00:18.58`	`Wobin`	`~literal stab $1`
`00:18.59`	`purl`	`ACTION runs at $1 with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.`
`00:19.31`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: 4 lines of text, OnClick(LeftButton, party2), Clique:ThisUnitOnclick(), BestRank(Rejuvenation, party2), Casting Rejuvenation with rank ... 5`
`00:19.31`	`ckknight`	`what's the API function to get info from the TOC?`
`00:20.09`	`cladhaire`	`and it doesn't work?`
`00:20.09`	`cladhaire`	`hrm`
`00:20.19`	`Mikma`	`yeah it doesn't cast it`
`00:21.09`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: and ctrl+leftmouse don't work for party3`
`00:21.17`	`ckknight`	`it's in 1.11, slouken added it`
`00:21.21`	`Mikma`	`atm we don't have party4 so i can't tell that`
`00:21.34`	`Wobin`	`GetAddOnMetadata("addon", "field") - returns the value of the following fields in the addon TOC file: Title, Notes, Author, Version, and any field starting with X-`
`00:21.38`	`cladhaire`	`...`
`00:21.41`	`cladhaire`	`k`
`00:22.06`	`Mikma`	`sorry about this :(`
`00:22.39`	`cladhaire`	`no problem`
`00:22.46`	`ckknight`	`thanks Wobin`
`00:22.53`	`Wobin`	`np`
`00:23.04`	`ckknight`	`people shout out standardized TOC info you want Ace2 to pick up on`
`00:23.08`	`ckknight`	`Version`
`00:23.09`	`ckknight`	`Category`
`00:23.37`	`ckknight`	`uh`
`00:23.39`	`ckknight`	`what else?`
`00:23.54`	`haste`	`Author?`
`00:24.16`	`Mikma`	`email/webpage?`
`00:24.23`	`*** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net)`
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`00:24.26`	`ckknight`	`gonna get Author`
`00:24.33`	`ckknight`	`X-eMail`
`00:24.36`	`ckknight`	`X-Webpage`
`00:24.59`	`maia`	`I'd prefer tags over categories, but thats probably my Web2.0 approach ;)`
`00:25.00`	`ckknight`	`X-Date`
`00:25.04`	`ckknight`	`maia, tags?`
`00:25.06`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`00:25.08`	`ckknight`	`um`
`00:25.12`	`ckknight`	`lemme get the link`
`00:25.25`	`Wobin`	`Notes?`
`00:25.44`	`ckknight`	`do we want notes?`
`00:25.58`	`ckknight`	`I guess`
`00:26.01`	`ckknight`	`that's description.`
`00:26.11`	`Wobin`	`not necessarily =)`
`00:26.14`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`00:26.26`	`ckknight`	`I'll put it in .notes`
`00:26.36`	`ckknight`	`btw, it won't replace any non-nil field`
`00:26.42`	`maia`	`ckknight: http://flickr.com/photos/tags/ - imagine wowi would support tags too.`
`00:26.53`	`ckknight`	`maia, http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1350.0.html`
`00:27.10`	`ckknight`	`if you set .author, it won't replace it with the TOC one`
`00:27.23`	`maia`	`ckknight: yeah, but thats categories again and not tags.`
`00:27.31`	`ckknight`	`we don't need tags, I think`
`00:27.36`	`Wobin`	`ckknight: metatabled indexes?`
`00:27.37`	`ckknight`	`plus, all sites use categories`
`00:27.44`	`maia`	`the idea about tags is having them non-hierachical, and giving the author the choice of using any number of appropriate tags`
`00:27.48`	`ckknight`	`Wobin, no, not in the metatable`
`00:28.19`	`ckknight`	`btw, Curse, afaik, has decided to steal the Ace2 categories and make em standard`
`00:28.21`	`Wobin`	`maia: That would be... intersting`
`00:28.23`	`ckknight`	`unless I'm mistaken`
`00:28.23`	`maia`	`e.g. for Squishy it could be: ACE UNIT PARTY RAID EMERGENCY HEALER PRIEST SHAMAN DRUID PALADIN`
`00:28.54`	`Wobin`	`but without external web support, unhelpful =`
`00:28.55`	`Wobin`	`\`
`00:29.18`	`maia`	`Wobin: true. But either we start first or the websites do.`
`00:29.25`	`SilverShadow`	`It's a really good catagory system. Though I'm looking more for something a bit flexiable. If what I want get's implamented, mod authors and users alike will be happy.`
`00:29.42`	`Wobin`	`SilverShadow: Something like what maia mentioned with Tags?`
`00:29.56`	`SilverShadow`	`yea. I call them "keywords"`
`00:30.05`	`Wobin`	`nifty`
`00:30.24`	`ckknight`	`I'm sticking with categories for now`
`00:30.24`	`SilverShadow`	`You could include even more detailed catagories like "RP" and whatnot.`
`00:30.43`	`SilverShadow`	`Soo many mods really just don't fit in any 'one' catagory.`
`00:30.45`	`Wobin`	`maia: But since they're referring to an external webinterface thing, wouldn't putting them -in- the addon be ... unuseful?`
`00:31.00`	`Wobin`	`It's more of an external classification than an addon internal one`
`00:31.15`	`Wobin`	`for, for example, websites like Curse which support them`
`00:31.24`	`maia`	`I don't like categories. What is Squishy, in which category does it belong? Battlegrounds (because of the range check)? Class Specific (more helpful for healers, but anyone can use it)? Combat (of course), Frame Modification (yup), Interface Enhancements (yeah), Raid (ya), UnitFrame (also).`
`00:31.26`	`Wobin`	`And the sites aren't going to be parsing the addon for tags`
`00:32.18`	`SilverShadow`	`yea. parsing the addons for info get's sticky. means that it opens the site up for a malicious addon to crash the whole thing.`
`00:32.24`	`ckknight`	`maia, UnitFrame is most appropriate`
`00:32.51`	`ckknight`	`you want the most appropriate category`
`00:32.58`	`maia`	`ckknight: thats where you'd search for it. I'd probably put it in Class Specific > Healers.`
`00:33.10`	`maia`	`...or Raid.`
`00:33.23`	`SilverShadow`	`or you could combine the two systems. have a catagory, then a set of 'keywords' to search by.`
`00:33.37`	`Wobin`	`although, I wouldn't mind being able to use it in parties`
`00:33.47`	`Wobin`	`if only for the across the boardfunctionality`
`00:33.47`	`maia`	`but not UnitFrame, as it's not a complete unit frame. Other users might search for such an addon in battlegrounds because they need something with range check.`
`00:34.09`	`Wobin`	`SilverShadow: That'd make the most sense`
`00:35.01`	`Wobin`	`But that doesn't solve Maia's problem of the initial category =)`
`00:35.18`	`SilverShadow`	`Unless you throw it into the "misc" catagory. ;-)`
`00:35.33`	`maia`	`perfect. then I can simply throw it into the trash.`
`00:35.40`	`Wobin`	`I guess my issue with tags are that either the things that are tagged are undertagged or overtagged`
`00:36.19`	`Wobin`	`so I can do a search for ACE PARTY RAID EMERGENCY HEALER PRIEST and either get a huge lot of hits or none`
`00:36.22`	`SilverShadow`	`yea it's a pain.. but it's up to the mod author.`
`00:36.34`	`Wobin`	`and cutting back would increase the number by a power`
`00:37.16`	`SilverShadow`	`the problem is that people just don't know how to do proper searches.`
`00:37.41`	`SilverShadow`	`then combine that with sucky search software.. shrugs`
`00:38.04`	`SilverShadow`	`that's why i don't do searches when I'm looking for something. I just start browesing everything.`
`00:38.05`	`ckknight`	`btw, if you have your version be "$Revision: 52 $", it turns into "52" automatically.`
`00:38.09`	`Wobin`	`I'm lazy in that I'd prefer to go for the wider category and narrow down, than have a long chain of 'zero results' when going the other direction`
`00:38.32`	`Wobin`	`ckknight: So no more need for string.sub?`
`00:38.41`	`ckknight`	`Wobin, right. all automatic`
`00:38.45`	`Wobin`	`nice`
`00:38.46`	`ckknight`	`well`
`00:38.47`	`ckknight`	`sorta`
`00:38.51`	`ckknight`	`not really`
`00:39.00`	`ckknight`	`since TOC files aren't always updated`
`00:39.03`	`ckknight`	`but .lua files are`
`00:39.03`	`Wobin`	`version = "1.0."..$Rev$?`
`00:39.09`	`ckknight`	`they'll be out of sync.`
`00:39.09`	`Kebinusan`	`anyone know a mod that displays raid pins on the minimap?`
`00:39.19`	`Wobin`	`yeah, but that's an SVN issue, not an AceAddon one`
`00:39.38`	`maia`	`well, lots of Web2.0 sites have no problem dealing with over/undertagging. flickr. youtube. del.icio.us. tagcloud. technorati. tagworld. amazon.`
`00:39.54`	`Wobin`	`maia That's more due to population of users`
`00:40.18`	`maia`	`Wobin: the idea of tags is to click one tag, then see the list of all tags that are related to the first tag. that way you can narrow down your search.`
`00:40.25`	`ckknight`	`doesn't work in a dictatorial setting, where one person assigns keywords`
`00:40.25`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`00:40.41`	`ckknight`	`cause everyone would abuse them, put their addon in every category`
`00:41.04`	`maia`	`so you click on ACE and see 40 tags. next you click on RAID and you'll see all addons that are tagged with Ace and Raid. Next you click on UnitFrame... etc.`
`00:41.29`	`Wobin`	`maia: Again, it's more of an external classification, and not really necessary within the Ace2.0 code....`
`00:41.44`	`maia`	`yeah, true. I just wish wowi would add tags ;)`
`00:41.57`	`Wobin`	`Have you suggested it?`
`00:42.01`	`maia`	`or curse. or ui.worldofwar. no preferences here.`
`00:42.07`	`maia`	`no, just had the idea.`
`00:42.49`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`00:42.52`	`ckknight`	`suggest`
`00:43.08`	`Wobin`	`No point complaining if you're not going to give them the chance to offer it =)`
`00:43.24`	`maia`	`will do so. tomorrow. gotta catch some sleep. it's late here. g'night!`
`00:43.34`	`Wobin`	`sleep well`
`00:45.01`	`SilverShadow`	`gah`
`00:45.22`	`SilverShadow`	`anyway.. Curse arleady has it in the works. Not sure how we'll end up doing it, but the idea is there.`
`00:47.41`	`ckknight`	`curse is gonna be rewriting their entire site`
`00:48.05`	`Wobin`	`?`
`00:48.14`	`ckknight`	`shh`
`00:48.19`	`Wobin`	`Again? =P`
`00:48.20`	`ckknight`	`don't tell the unwashed masses`
`00:48.22`	`SilverShadow`	`coughV3cough`
`00:48.26`	`Tain`	`aahhh make a low-graphics version!`
`00:48.28`	`Wobin`	`Dear god =p`
`00:48.57`	`ckknight`	`apparently the current code is a horrid mess of undocumented PHP or something`
`00:48.58`	`*** join/#wowace Galka (n=Galka@pool-72-88-149-181.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)`
`00:49.04`	`ckknight`	`v3 will be written with Django`
`00:49.14`	`Wobin`	`... there is often nothing worse than undocumented PHP`
`00:49.26`	`Tain`	`Except maybe a paper cut when you squeeze lemon juice in it.`
`00:49.28`	`Wobin`	`And that could be Rowne's code...`
`00:49.30`	`ckknight`	`I've seen some of the code, Wobin`
`00:49.52`	`Wobin`	`was it... scary?`
`00:50.28`	`ckknight`	`I need a comfort blankie to sleep now.`
`00:50.38`	`Wobin`	`Django is a high-level Python Web framework that encourages rapid development and clean, pragmatic design.`
`00:50.41`	`Wobin`	`I like it already`
`00:50.54`	`Tain`	`Down with pragmatism!`
`00:50.57`	`ckknight`	`Wobin, I've already contributed code to Django.`
`00:51.03`	`ckknight`	`;-)`
`00:51.08`	`cladhaire`	`booo pragmatism`
`00:51.28`	`Tain`	`Up with miniskirts!`
`00:51.31`	`ckknight`	`pragmatism can kick your ass!`
`00:51.59`	`Tain`	`Game 5 of the NBA finals!`
`00:52.35`	`Wobin`	`oh god`
`00:52.50`	`Wobin`	`So many MushWordsTogetherToFormAConcept tags =P`
`00:53.19`	`Wobin`	`It's such a wiki thing =)`
`00:54.56`	`cladhaire`	`job interview tomorrow`
`00:55.03`	`cladhaire`	`gasp(`
`00:55.21`	`Tain`	`Onoes!`
`00:55.34`	`Wobin`	`oooooo`
`00:55.39`	`Wobin`	`good luck Clad =)`
`00:55.43`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`00:55.44`	`cladhaire`	`thanks.`
`00:55.52`	`SilverShadow`	`hope it works out`
`00:56.19`	`cladhaire`	`thanks, i hope so too`
`00:56.26`	`cladhaire`	`if not i'm coming to europe and you are going to help me find a job there.`
`00:56.33`	`cladhaire`	`and putting me up on your couch`
`00:56.42`	`SilverShadow`	`Um.. I'm in the US...`
`00:56.54`	`cladhaire`	`O.o`
`00:56.59`	`cladhaire`	`uhh.. my B`
`00:57.03`	`SilverShadow`	`<-- currently a georgia peach`
`00:57.34`	`cladhaire`	`well hai2u`
`00:58.03`	`Wobin`	`Well you can come to China`
`00:58.04`	`ckknight`	`Title, Notes, Version, Author, X-Date, X-Category, X-eMail, X-Website`
`00:58.14`	`ckknight`	`any else anyone can think of?`
`00:58.15`	`Wobin`	`But I'm going back to Oz in a month =P`
`00:58.44`	`Tain`	`You can stay on my couch cladhaire but I don't have a job either`
`00:58.56`	`Wobin`	`Meh.`
`00:59.05`	`Wobin`	`I wish the SVN could deal with the Version in the toc`
`00:59.23`	`Wobin`	`Cause that'd be all that's stopping me from keeping the version only in th etoc`
`00:59.46`	`Wobin`	`atm I'm using majorversoin in the toc then majorversion.$Rev$ in the lua`
`01:00.05`	`Wobin`	`(or mv.minorver.$rev$)`
`01:00.23`	`ckknight`	`same`
`01:02.39`	`ckknight`	`let's see if #svn has an answer`
`01:03.40`	`Kyahx`	`why is MC so boring =/`
`01:03.55`	`Wobin`	`here and Wowi have been some of the most welcoming channels for newbies I've seen =)`
`01:04.10`	`Tain`	`Down with newbies!`
`01:04.12`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`01:04.16`	`Kyahx`	`stfu wobin, noob`
`01:04.22`	`Wobin`	`crai`
`01:04.26`	`ckknight`	`lolzor, Wobin, nub`
`01:04.26`	`Wobin`	`QQ`
`01:04.38`	`Tain`	`doku TT`
`01:06.31`	`Tain`	`Clarence Clemens playing the National Anthem.`
`01:06.36`	`Wobin`	`I guess I should start reading the forum more`
`01:10.57`	`Galka`	`WTB a fubar Experience plugin that handles reputation as well and isn't ExpRepGlueFu!`
`01:14.08`	`Wobin`	`Galka: Write one =)`
`01:14.24`	`Galka`	`:/`
`01:14.29`	`Mikma`	`WTB KC_ItemsFu ;)`
`01:14.35`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2901 10AceLibrary/AceAddon.lua: AceAddon - now gets info from the TOC`
`01:14.43`	`Galka`	`You don't want me to go anywhere near code. Serious :/`
`01:15.33`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2902 10AceLibrary/ (AceAddon-TOC-1.lua AceAddon-TOC-2.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - added more unit tests`
`01:15.41`	`ckknight`	`I'll sell em to you`
`01:16.04`	`Kyahx`	`is KCI broken on 1.11`
`01:16.17`	`Industrial`	`http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/idChatTimestamps.php`
`01:16.19`	`Industrial`	`new ver out`
`01:16.22`	`Industrial`	`fixed the % bug`
`01:16.26`	`Industrial`	`<-- bed`
`01:17.27`	`ckknight`	`why don't you house em on ace's svn?`
`01:17.33`	`ckknight`	`jw`
`01:17.40`	`Wobin`	`Cause they're not ace addons anymore`
`01:18.16`	`haste`	`There are many non-ace addons on the SVN ;)`
`01:18.36`	`Industrial`	`orly?`
`01:18.44`	`Wobin`	`wH's`
`01:18.44`	`Industrial`	`hmmm`
`01:18.51`	`Industrial`	`Ill do that tomorrow`
`01:18.55`	`Industrial`	`and then im going to be really lazy`
`01:18.57`	`Mikma`	`but if the site is wowace.com, doesn't that mean there should be ;)`
`01:19.02`	`Industrial`	`and not put anything on my site`
`01:19.08`	`Wobin`	`personally I'd prefer it for updates`
`01:19.18`	`Industrial`	`it the svn?`
`01:19.22`	`Wobin`	`yeah`
`01:19.27`	`Wobin`	`it's easier than downloading a zip`
`01:19.29`	`Tain`	`Yeah who wants to go to some hack site to download addons!`
`01:19.45`	`Industrial`	`true dat`
`01:19.50`	`Industrial`	`Ill do it tomorrow`
`01:20.04`	`Mikma`	`i would do it now but i don't know how`
`01:20.04`	`Industrial`	`nini, Galka; np`
`01:20.10`	`ckknight`	`none of my libs are ace'd`
`01:20.14`	`Galka`	MainTankFrames.lua:645: attempt to index field `?' (a nil value)
`01:20.16`	`Galka`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:20.27`	`Galka`	`Happens when you hit the Assist X key with no assist set`
`01:20.57`	`haste`	`complain to the author on WoWI`
`01:21.01`	`Galka`	`I did`
`01:21.04`	`Galka`	`No response`
`01:21.09`	`Galka`	`Been some time too`
`01:21.54`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07Examples * r2903 10AceLibrary/: Ace2/Examples - made Examples directory.`
`01:28.12`	`Mikma`	`well, since i don't know how this svnX works i'm not gonna commit Bartender`
`01:28.38`	`Mikma`	`wtf is "Working Copy"`
`01:29.32`	`kergoth`	`a working copy is a checkout of a repository.`
`01:30.15`	`Mikma`	`sure, got it.. umh yeah right`
`01:30.45`	`Mikma`	`it asks for a local path but when i enter something it says it's not working copy`
`01:31.29`	`ckknight`	`Mikma, you on Windows or *nix?`
`01:31.39`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: osxnix`
`01:31.46`	`ckknight`	`ok`
`01:31.53`	`Wobin`	`osnix =)`
`01:31.58`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`01:32.05`	`Mikma`	`it has the same commandprompt svn as others but i got this GUI for it`
`01:32.12`	`Mikma`	`svnX, but don't know how it works`
`01:32.30`	`Mikma`	`i can download it but that's all i know ;D`
`01:32.54`	`Kyahx`	`did you try smartSVN?`
`01:33.05`	`Mikma`	`does osnix have it?`
`01:33.07`	`Kyahx`	`mmm, gui :P`
`01:33.13`	`Kyahx`	`OSX?`
`01:33.32`	`Mikma`	`yeah, Darwin ;)`
`01:33.38`	`Kyahx`	`heh`
`01:33.58`	`Mikma`	`i'll try to make a folder on branches, let's see what happens`
`01:34.08`	`kergoth`	`i suggest you read part of the svn book. it's freely available online`
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`01:35.41`	`Kyahx`	`I've been spoiled by tortise :P command lines are foriegn to me`
`01:35.42`	`Mikma`	`well i was \|\| that close to create the folder in branches but then i readed kergoths line`
`01:35.56`	`[Wobin]`	`"Thanks for the info tekkub, I have ordered the programming in Lua 2nd ed. book. "`
`01:36.02`	`Kyahx`	`hehe`
`01:36.20`	`Kyahx`	`im to cheap to buy a book, thats what alt-tab is for`
`01:36.36`	`Kyahx`	`and the internet`
`01:37.21`	`Mikma`	`Woooo! applauds`
`01:37.31`	`Tain`	`Yay Internet!`
`01:37.33`	`Mikma`	`well i'll try to make the dir now heh, let's see`
`01:38.01`	`CIA-12`	`03mikma * r2904 10/branches/Bartender/: Creating folder`
`01:38.40`	`Mikma`	`nice. so, do i need to do Mikma folder there and Bartender under it or?`
`01:49.13`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`01:49.16`	`ckknight`	`Mikma folder`
`01:49.24`	`ckknight`	`wait, aren't you the creator of it?`
`01:49.50`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2905 10AceLibrary/AceAddon.lua: AceAddon - added :tostring()`
`01:51.51`	`ckknight`	`if you are the creator, you'd put it in trun`
`01:51.54`	`ckknight`	`trunk*`
`01:52.01`	`Mikma`	`ok was just wondering that`
`01:52.13`	`Mikma`	`i'll try to move it to trunk`
`01:52.23`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07Examples * r2906 10AceLibrary/ (AceAddon-1.lua AceAddon-2.lua AceAddon-3.lua): Ace2/Examples - added some examples`
`01:52.37`	`ckknight`	`maia, want to see what you think?`
`01:53.46`	`Wobin`	`Maia's gone to bed`
`01:54.03`	`CIA-12`	`03mikma * r2907 10/ (branches/Bartender/ trunk/Bartender/): Bartender: Created folder in wrong place`
`01:54.58`	`ckknight`	`ah`
`01:55.28`	`Mikma`	`yeah seems like it works nicely. but now i have to find a way to upload files`
`01:56.04`	`ckknight`	`copy-paste`
`01:56.11`	`ckknight`	`then commit`
`01:56.53`	`Mikma`	`i hate this program already hehe`
`01:57.15`	`Mikma`	`http://www.lachoseinteractive.net/en/community/subversion/svnx/features/`
`01:57.16`	`haste`	`yes, command line is your friend!`
`01:57.51`	`Mikma`	`well i don't know even how commandline works ;)`
`01:57.59`	`ckknight`	`svn ci`
`01:58.01`	`haste`	`svn help`
`02:00.31`	`Tain`	`svn make me pizza`
`02:01.10`	`haste`	`heh, my new Reload UI macro is: oUFDB=nil ReloadUI()`
`02:01.26`	`Mikma`	`:D`
`02:02.09`	`Mikma`	`wow i found the commandline svn :)`
`02:06.53`	`Wobin`	`svn heal my raid`
`02:07.03`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07Examples * r2908 10AceLibrary/ (7 files): Ace2/Examples - stuff.`
`02:07.23`	`Mikma`	`svn spank my monkey`
`02:07.34`	`Tain`	`Shock the monkey!`
`02:10.00`	`ckknight`	`~moredots`
`02:10.03`	`purl`	`you lose 50 dkp again!`
`02:13.22`	`Wobin`	`Damnit`
`02:13.29`	`Wobin`	`We need a webinterface for PT`
`02:13.32`	`Wobin`	`=P`
`02:13.46`	`Wobin`	`So I can insert an itemid and see what categories it's defined under`
`02:26.56`	`haste`	`making the menus use a table was more painful then I first thought`
`02:30.03`	`Mikma`	`i don't get this svn, really`
`02:32.10`	`Mikma`	`is not a working copy ..`
`02:32.13`	`Mikma`	`'kay`
`02:32.41`	`haste`	`svn add`
`02:35.04`	`Mikma`	`svn add Bartender -> svn: '.' is not a working copy`
`02:35.28`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`02:35.33`	`Wobin`	`there are 200 trinkets`
`02:35.35`	`Wobin`	`roughly`
`02:35.42`	`Wobin`	`should I subcategorise them for PT?`
`02:37.32`	`Mikma`	`i give up`
`02:37.36`	`Mikma`	`fook with that`
`02:39.50`	`CIA-12`	`03wobin * r2909 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Misc/PTEmbedElemMisc.lua: PeriodicTable - Added trinkets`
`02:45.08`	`CIA-12`	`03mikma * r2910 10Bartender/ (Bartender.lua Bartender.toc Bartender.xml): AddOn comes alive, very unstable`
`02:45.25`	`Mikma`	`look! i did it with GUI, finally`
`02:48.18`	`Wobin`	`yay!`
`02:48.51`	`Mikma`	`oh damn just gotta remember to add the Addon name first from this point on`
`02:49.23`	`ckknight`	`right.`
`02:56.17`	`Tain`	`<Miravlix> There is a reason I know why nice guys finish last`
`02:56.19`	`Tain`	`How would he know?`
`02:56.34`	`Wobin`	`Cause he forces them to?`
`03:04.14`	`Tain`	`Holy crap he's whinier than usual.`
`03:06.04`	`Cairenn`	`maybe he's having a bad day and should not be picked on?`
`03:06.43`	`Tain`	`I have a lot of bad day`
`03:06.53`	`kergoth`	`"What do you do in a young republican's meeting?" "Oh, we help those who already have the means to help themselves."`
`03:09.32`	`Tain`	`Anyway my altruistic side is showing right now. I'm venting in here instead of bitching at him like the whiny bitch he is.`
`03:10.07`	`Cairenn`	`hugs Tain`
`03:10.25`	`ckknight`	`he is awfully whiny`
`03:11.14`	`Cairenn`	`he does seem worse than usual, but he's whining, not being aggressive, which is why I think he's feeling kinda down about something`
`03:11.55`	`Tain`	`He was being agressive. He only isn't now because people knew better and didn't argue.`
`03:12.22`	`ckknight`	`jk, Cairenn`
`03:14.12`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`03:18.47`	`CIA-12`	`03wobin * r2911 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Misc/PTEmbedElemMisc.lua: PeriodicTable - Missed a comma`
`03:31.06`	`haste`	`hmm, it`
`03:31.10`	`haste`	`hmm, it's morning now :o`
`03:31.23`	`haste`	`good morning`
`03:31.46`	`ckknight`	`morning, haste`
`03:35.44`	`Kyahx`	`can anyone think of any IRC clients that would get past my firewall at work? =/`
`03:35.51`	`Kyahx`	`web-based perhaps?`
`03:36.06`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`03:36.21`	`ckknight`	`well, you could use a proxy`
`03:36.29`	`ckknight`	`that goes through port 80`
`03:37.33`	`Kyahx`	`hmmm, I guess I'll try and play with that tomarrow =/`
`03:42.45`	`ckknight`	`note: freenode checks for open proxies.`
`03:43.12`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx: well yeah... there's one`
`03:43.50`	`Mikma`	`oh wait, it might not support freenode :P`
`03:44.04`	`Mikma`	`bah, only ircnet and efnet`
`03:44.27`	`Kyahx`	`lame`
`03:46.24`	`Kyahx`	`Codayus: you here?`
`03:47.55`	`Wobin`	`I always read his nick as CodyAus =P`
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`03:48.01`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Tem_] by ChanServ`
`03:49.11`	`Tekkub`	`erf`
`03:49.26`	`Tekkub`	`so I tried to write a combat-looter detecting mod tonight`
`03:49.36`	`Tekkub`	`lag made it not work as intended`
`03:50.07`	`kergoth`	`i use the bip irc proxy, best one i've seen. beats both dircproxy and ctrlproxy hands down`
`03:51.13`	`Tekkub`	`I put in the full FFVI victory in my BigWigs... it's so cool :)`
`03:53.48`	`Kyahx`	`ahem I seem to recall suggesting that :P`
`03:54.04`	`Kyahx`	`Its awesome thou, I smile everytime it plays =)`
`03:54.06`	`Tekkub`	`thank clad, he provided the mp3s`
`03:54.12`	`Tekkub`	`me too`
`03:54.19`	`Tekkub`	`I was all giggly in raid tonight`
`03:54.24`	`Kyahx`	`btw, you should compress the other sound files into MP3`
`03:54.38`	`Tekkub`	`now it's like "WOO HOO WE DID IT!"`
`03:54.53`	`Tekkub`	`instead of "yea, don't want any items... NEXT BOSS!"`
`03:58.38`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07Examples * r2912 10AceLibrary/ (AceAddon-4-Events.lua AceAddon-5-DB.lua): Ace2/Examples - added AceAddon-5-DB.lua`
`04:01.51`	`Mikma`	`heh the RestorePosition seems to work too :D`
`04:01.55`	`Mikma`	`that's good new`
`04:03.57`	`Gngsk`	`the c'thun timers don't stop if you wipe`
`04:04.05`	`Mikma`	`~c'thun`
`04:04.07`	`purl`	`* Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - Pleasure! *`
`04:04.11`	`Gngsk`	`yea, those timers`
`04:04.36`	`Wobin`	`I keep forgetting to put the dewdrop keys in quotes`
`04:04.36`	`Mikma`	`pleasure timers \o/`
`04:07.07`	`Mikma`	`zomg! Bartender works now perfectly :)`
`04:15.32`	`Gngsk`	`cool`
`04:18.17`	`Mikma`	`now i'll just add working reset and pop it on svn`
`04:24.13`	`Tekkub`	`hey woblin`
`04:24.30`	`Tekkub`	`Mr Plow doesn't pust ammo from a normal bag into a empty ammo slot bag`
`04:24.36`	`Kyahx`	`haha`
`04:24.40`	`Tekkub`	`push`
`04:25.12`	`Tekkub`	`also, in the bank sort it doesn't seem to push all my minipets together`
`04:26.01`	`Tekkub`	`and perhaps you should group the ZG and AQ tokens seperatly from normal quest items... same would go for the honor tokens... I should add a PT set for those..`
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`04:28.12`	`Wobin`	`Tekkub: Yes you should`
`04:28.25`	`Wobin`	`Also, it won't deal with ammo et al`
`04:28.35`	`Wobin`	`deal with that yourself =P`
`04:31.34`	`Tekkub`	`okey, I'll write up a lil ammo mod`
`04:31.42`	`Tekkub`	`cause it's annoying`
`04:33.53`	`Mikma`	`now..`
`04:34.00`	`Mikma`	`how in the hell the svn worked again :D`
`04:34.06`	`Gngsk`	`commit`
`04:34.45`	`Mikma`	`i managed to get my svnX working moment ago`
`04:36.45`	`CIA-12`	`03mikma * r2913 10Bartender/ (Bartender.lua Bartender.toc): Bartender: 1.0 (Beta), Positions will be remembered`
`04:36.53`	`Mikma`	`there ya go :)`
`04:37.22`	`Mikma`	`please if you got the time and interest, test it and report if you found any bugs.`
`04:37.34`	`Gngsk`	`I'll check it out`
`04:37.56`	`Mikma`	`at the moment there is no way to hide the Bags and Microbuttons but it will be in on 1.0 release :)`
`04:38.48`	`ckknight`	`API advice: for AceHook: when hooking methods (attached to tables), should you receive the object as an argument? e.g. regarding self:Hook(DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME, "AddMessage") - should your method be :AddMessage(text) or :AddMessage(obj, text) where obj is DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME?`
`04:38.57`	`ckknight`	`personally, I think the latter`
`04:40.49`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: are there any other way to add texts in chat?`
`04:41.08`	`Tekkub`	`why'd you add trinkets wob, can't you detect that from GetItemInfo?`
`04:41.11`	`ckknight`	`I'm talking about hooking`
`04:41.22`	`ckknight`	`but no, Mikma`
`04:41.26`	`Wobin`	`Not for engineering trinkets`
`04:41.33`	`Mikma`	`then what's the point on having the latter?`
`04:41.34`	`Wobin`	`I guess I could cut down on those`
`04:41.49`	`ckknight`	`Mikma, if you want to hook multiple chat frames`
`04:41.58`	`ckknight`	`and use the same method`
`04:42.13`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`04:42.20`	`Wobin`	`maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing`
`04:42.21`	`Mikma`	`well then the obj might be better`
`04:42.31`	`ckknight`	`I think I'm gonna go with that`
`04:42.38`	`ckknight`	`fits better`
`04:47.16`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`04:47.26`	`Wobin`	`Squishy needs to tell you when someone is dead`
`04:47.38`	`Wobin`	`even if it just greys it out for half a second`
`04:52.27`	`Mikma`	`http://wow.reaktio.net/Bartender/screenshots/`
`04:52.38`	`Mikma`	`there ya go, updated screenshots from latest version hehe :)`
`04:54.09`	`Kyahx`	`Tekkub: I converted all the BigWigs sounds into MP3 and updated the sound.lua file, mind if I commit it?`
`04:56.53`	`Wobin`	`omg`
`04:56.56`	`Wobin`	`hearthstone hax`
`04:59.06`	`Kyahx`	`lol`
`04:59.35`	`Kyahx`	`Mikma: Are they sticky yet? :P`
`04:59.37`	`Kyahx`	`hehe`
`04:59.53`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx: yes! they are! :)`
`04:59.56`	`Kyahx`	`omg!`
`05:00.17`	`Mikma`	`Wobin: yeah my hunter is wannabe paladin`
`05:00.32`	`Kyahx`	`better question, do they stick to the UI parent :P`
`05:00.35`	`Kyahx`	`bwahaha`
`05:00.43`	`Mikma`	`yes they do :)`
`05:00.48`	`Kyahx`	`you win`
`05:01.08`	`Mikma`	`umh, i hope UI-scale won't poke me in the eye now`
`05:01.15`	`Mikma`	`haven't tried it with other scale :D`
`05:01.37`	`Mikma`	`and it did meh`
`05:03.26`	`Mikma`	`now that's interesting, i thought uiscale doesn't matter`
`05:03.43`	`Tekkub`	`go ahead K`
`05:06.37`	`CIA-12`	`03tekkub * r2914 10BigWigs/ZG/Mandokir.lua:`
`05:06.38`	`CIA-12`	`BigWigs`
`05:06.38`	`CIA-12`	`- Updated ZG/Mandokir.lua to send an Alarm sound if you are being watched`
`05:06.55`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2915 10AceLibrary/AceHook.lua:`
`05:06.55`	`CIA-12`	`AceHook - more error checking.`
`05:06.56`	`CIA-12`	`more efficient (with lots of hooking/unhooking)`
`05:06.56`	`CIA-12`	`Changed method hooking to put object as the first argument.`
`05:07.15`	`Wobin`	`yay`
`05:07.32`	`Wobin`	`and hurrah`
`05:07.44`	`Wobin`	`itemspecifivity added to PlowKing`
`05:07.59`	`ckknight`	`progress is fun.`
`05:08.07`	`CIA-12`	`03joshborke * r2916 10HealWatch/HealWatch.lua: HealWatch: made color static for RGBtoRGB (health deficit color)`
`05:08.18`	`Mikma`	`seems like the uiscale bugs more than necessary`
`05:09.00`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2917 10AceLibrary/AceHook-1.lua: Ace2/TestSuite - updated AceHook-1.lua for new API`
`05:09.37`	`Tekkub`	`"A Choir of Empty Beds" odd album name`
`05:11.09`	`CIA-12`	`03joshborke * r2918 10HealWatch/ (HealWatch.lua HealWatch.toc): HealWatch: updated version to 0.50-11000 for release`
`05:11.49`	`Mikma`	`oh well, just use 0.90 uiscale or adjust the bars, i'll look at it again later`
`05:28.52`	`Mikma`	`I'm off, gn :)`
`05:30.52`	`Wobin`	`night Mik`
`05:33.50`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07Examples * r2919 10AceLibrary/AceAddon-6-Hooks.lua: Ace2/Examples - added AceAddon-6-Hooks.lua`
`05:36.08`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07Examples * r2920 10AceLibrary/AceAddon-5-DB.lua: Ace2/Examples - fixed typo in AceAddon-5-DB.lua`
`05:43.05`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`05:44.06`	`ckknight`	`I'm gonna have AceLibrary take in a minor version like "$Revision: 52 $" and automatically convert it to 52 (as a number)`
`05:44.16`	`ckknight`	`unless someone thinks that'll be bad...`
`05:46.09`	`Kyahx`	`Hey!`
`05:46.27`	`Kyahx`	`n/m, I just scrolled up and saw.`
`05:47.12`	`ckknight`	`hey!`
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`05:48.40`	`Kyahx`	`Hey-o! :P`
`05:48.45`	`Kyahx`	`~c'thun`
`05:48.46`	`purl`	`* Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - 10~ sec! *`
`05:48.49`	`Kyahx`	`I love that`
`05:49.07`	`CIA-12`	`03kyahx * r2921 10BigWigs/ (11 files): BigWigs: Converted wav files to mp3, to keep the file sizes down.`
`05:49.53`	`Kyahx`	`bed-time. Night all`
`05:56.57`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2922 10AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - now takes svn revision strings as minor versions.`
`05:57.33`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2923 10AceLibrary/AceLibrary-version-5.lua: Ace2/TestSuite - added AceLibrary-version-5.lua`
`06:13.21`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07Examples * r2924 10AceLibrary/ (4 files): Ace2/Examples - added AceLibrary examples.`
`06:13.45`	`ckknight`	`can someone read my examples and give me feedback?`
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`06:22.17`	`ckknight`	`hey Elkano`
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`06:32.05`	`Elkano`	`ho ckknight, moonwolf :)`
`06:32.11`	`ckknight`	`hey MoonWolf`
`06:32.12`	`MoonWolf`	`helloo`
`06:32.18`	`ckknight`	`I'm making examples for Ace2 now`
`06:32.24`	`MoonWolf`	`cool`
`06:32.26`	`ckknight`	`could either of you please take a look at em?`
`06:32.32`	`MoonWolf`	`hit me.`
`06:32.39`	`ckknight`	`http://svn.wowace.com/branches/AceLibrary/Examples/`
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`06:32.44`	`Elkano`	`moonwolf, seen my branch?`
`06:32.45`	`ckknight`	`forgot root/`
`06:32.48`	`ckknight`	`put that in there.`
`06:32.50`	`mjc`	`hallo all`
`06:32.58`	`ckknight`	`http://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/AceLibrary/Examples/`
`06:32.58`	`ckknight`	`hey.`
`06:33.02`	`*** topic/#wowace by MoonWolf -> wowace.com \| ace.pastebin.com \| http://www.lua.org/pil <-- READ IT \| As a computer, I find your faith in techonology disturbing`
`06:33.14`	`MoonWolf`	`Elkano, your branch of what /`
`06:33.18`	`MoonWolf`	`mendeleev ?`
`06:33.21`	`Elkano`	`Mendeleev`
`06:33.34`	`MoonWolf`	`ill give it a look when i get home.`
`06:33.34`	`mjc`	`just thought I'd swing in here =) been working on a CT_RaidTracker replacement but i don't have anything functional yet`
`06:34.03`	`MoonWolf`	`lol at minimal`
`06:34.48`	`MoonWolf`	`welcom mjc`
`06:35.00`	`ckknight`	`welcome, mjc`
`06:35.28`	`mjc`	`I've chatted up kergoth in the past over linux-related stuff`
`06:35.38`	`mjc`	`anyone else use WoW in wine?`
`06:35.49`	`mjc`	`and thankee =)`
`06:36.01`	`MoonWolf`	`I have used Wow in cedega`
`06:36.15`	`MoonWolf`	`but switched back to windows because i missed my favourite apps.`
`06:36.52`	`MoonWolf`	`ckknight, why must oninitialize pass the name argument ?`
`06:36.53`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07Examples * r2925 10AceLibrary/ (5 files): Ace2/Examples - added some AceOO examples.`
`06:36.57`	`mjc`	`I don't use windows for much these days`
`06:37.04`	`ckknight`	`MoonWolf, doesn't have to, it just does.`
`06:37.19`	`ckknight`	`MoonWolf, it's kind of an optional thing`
`06:37.23`	`MoonWolf`	`okay`
`06:37.27`	`mjc`	`I've been having trouble with party frame stuff not updating when I zone in and out of instances... trying to track it down lately :P`
`06:37.32`	`MoonWolf`	`might want ot tell people that.`
`06:37.38`	`ckknight`	`k`
`06:37.52`	`MoonWolf`	`mjc, weird.`
`06:38.16`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07Examples * r2926 10AceLibrary/AceAddon-2-OnInitialize.lua: Ace2/Examples - updated AceAddon-2-OnInitialize.lua`
`06:38.41`	`MoonWolf`	`the register for once thing is cool.`
`06:38.48`	`ckknight`	`:-)`
`06:39.16`	`mjc`	`the whole svn externals thing is kind of annoying... can I tell SVN not to grab them and just put the libs in my addons dir?`
`06:39.25`	`ckknight`	`probably.`
`06:39.36`	`ckknight`	`it's like svn --exclude or something`
`06:39.49`	`mjc`	`you can turn off grabbing externals with an option`
`06:39.49`	`ckknight`	`all my libs work as standalone.`
`06:40.07`	`mjc`	`just wasn't sure if I needed to put libs like the PT stuff inside each addon like they are or if I can blow them away`
`06:40.57`	`ckknight`	`I realize that in showing examples of how AceOO works, I need to teach people what object-oriented programming is and how it works`
`06:40.57`	`CIA-12`	`03wobin * r2927 10PlowKing/ (7 files):`
`06:40.57`	`CIA-12`	`PlowKing - PlowKing - Custom categories add/delete/insert into/remove from`
`06:40.57`	`CIA-12`	`- right click or ctrl-right click to bring up most menus`
`06:40.57`	`MoonWolf`	`ckknight, does triggerevent accept tables as arguments ?`
`06:41.05`	`ckknight`	`MoonWolf, accepts _anything_`
`06:41.08`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`06:41.24`	`Wobin`	`Do you think PK is good enough for Aceforum release?`
`06:41.31`	`MoonWolf`	`sure`
`06:41.42`	`Wobin`	`I have to tie it into bagopen too I think`
`06:41.43`	`mjc`	`UpLink bombs whenever I click on the fubar links btw... been that way for a long time`
`06:41.46`	`ckknight`	`PK?`
`06:41.50`	`Wobin`	`PlowKing`
`06:41.58`	`ckknight`	`yea, AceForum'd be good`
`06:42.04`	`ckknight`	`maybe not WoWI`
`06:42.12`	`Wobin`	`hehe Certainly not ready for live release yet =)`
`06:42.14`	`ckknight`	`mjc, FuBar links?`
`06:42.34`	`mjc`	`ckknight: it has links to the different ZG and AQ items in its fubar menu`
`06:42.41`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`06:42.46`	`Wobin`	`oh yeah, I was going to prettyfy up the extended tags`
`06:42.50`	`mjc`	`when I click on them it throws an error... need to bring it up again but I'm in UBRS :P`
`06:44.24`	`mjc`	`http://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/CombatGraph/ is pretty fun, by the way`
`06:44.57`	`MoonWolf`	`ckknight, so far the examples are pretty clear`
`06:45.01`	`ckknight`	`cool, mjc`
`06:45.05`	`ckknight`	`MoonWolf, you saw all of em?`
`06:45.12`	`MoonWolf`	`not yet`
`06:45.15`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`06:45.16`	`mjc`	`I wish I could take credit for that one =( it's fun`
`06:45.22`	`MoonWolf`	`but i already know enough to convert mendeleev without problems.`
`06:45.42`	`ckknight`	`shh, don't tell anyone, but I have experience writing tutorials`
`06:45.48`	`ckknight`	`just keep that on the down low`
`06:46.13`	`mjc`	`whatever happened to acewardrobe?`
`06:46.29`	`MoonWolf`	`nothing, its working all hapely`
`06:46.32`	`mjc`	`thought it was in the svn`
`06:46.40`	`Wobin`	`not afaik?`
`06:46.42`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`06:46.52`	`mjc`	`maybe I'm mistaken`
`06:47.02`	`mjc`	`card_bars is really fun btw =P`
`06:47.38`	`mjc`	`http://mjc.325i.org/perfectraid.jpg is a semi-recent screenshot`
`06:48.24`	`mjc`	`perfectraid would be really cool in a party`
`06:50.04`	`MoonWolf`	`i dont like rings and combat huds.`
`06:51.29`	`mjc`	`really useful for me.. easier for me to see a moving circle than a line`
`06:52.34`	`*** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@c-66-176-173-47.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)`
`06:53.03`	`mjc`	`I have a friend I can't convince to use aceheal... he's obsessed with groupbuttons`
`06:53.22`	`MoonWolf`	`groupbuttons :(`
`06:53.40`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07Examples * r2928 10AceLibrary/AceOO-6-constructor.lua: Ace2/Examples - added AceOO-6-constructor.lua`
`06:53.43`	`MoonWolf`	`please clutter my player frames please!`
`06:54.16`	`Wobin`	`That's what I liked about needylist`
`06:54.25`	`Wobin`	`you could display the buff requirements easily`
`06:54.44`	`Wobin`	`and you didn't need to move your mousebutton to fill them all`
`06:55.34`	`mjc`	`KLHThreatMeter is pretty neat too`
`06:56.48`	`ckknight`	`I wonder how hard it'd be to add interfaces to AceOO`
`06:56.55`	`MoonWolf`	`local killer = Chihuahua:new() <- lol`
`06:57.02`	`ckknight`	`hehe, yea.`
`06:57.22`	`ckknight`	`it all makes sense, though, right?`
`06:57.33`	`ckknight`	`nothing jumps out at you and makes you wonder why?`
`06:57.38`	`MoonWolf`	`not yet`
`06:57.43`	`MoonWolf`	`but i already know OO programming`
`06:57.56`	`MoonWolf`	`i mean, it has its own unique thingies`
`06:58.04`	`MoonWolf`	`but nothing really out of the ordinary`
`06:58.29`	`ckknight`	`pretty much`
`06:58.39`	`MoonWolf`	`now show this to lets say`
`06:58.44`	`ckknight`	`one thing I should mention is that static methods are inheritable`
`06:58.44`	`MoonWolf`	`newbiex`
`06:58.54`	`MoonWolf`	`and he might not pick it up that well.`
`06:58.56`	`ckknight`	`yea, I know`
`06:59.12`	`MoonWolf`	`ckknight, thats eeeuh`
`06:59.16`	`MoonWolf`	`unusual.`
`06:59.27`	`ckknight`	`well, they're not static methods, really`
`06:59.29`	`ckknight`	`they're class methods`
`06:59.32`	`ckknight`	`similar`
`06:59.36`	`mjc`	`hmm, sonar tried to access a var named ProximityLib.. interesting`
`06:59.43`	`mjc`	`and uplink bombs on line 44`
`06:59.45`	`ckknight`	`but tied to a class and all its children`
`06:59.48`	`ckknight`	`not just one class`
`06:59.57`	`ckknight`	`children can always override it, though`
`07:00.16`	`Wobin`	`Is Proximitylib loaded, mjc?`
`07:00.22`	`MoonWolf`	`okay`
`07:00.44`	`mjc`	`it should be inside the sonar dir, no? cause I didn't delete it if that's the case`
`07:01.25`	`MoonWolf`	`its all good for me sofar ckknight`
`07:01.30`	`ckknight`	`alright`
`07:01.38`	`ckknight`	`writing one on mixins now`
`07:02.14`	`MoonWolf`	`we should convert coins and that other addon wrone made to ace2.`
`07:02.25`	`ckknight`	`oh yea`
`07:02.28`	`ckknight`	`could be handy`
`07:02.48`	`mjc`	`bossblock is fucking awesome, btw`
`07:03.24`	`ckknight`	`that's Tekkub's`
`07:06.04`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07Examples * r2929 10AceLibrary/AceOO-7-mixins.lua: Ace2/Examples - added AceOO-7-mixins.lua`
`07:08.32`	`Wobin`	`BossBlock?`
`07:08.34`	`Wobin`	`What's that do?`
`07:08.39`	`Wobin`	`blocks ctra's alerts?`
`07:09.19`	`ckknight`	`blocks the annoying messages`
`07:09.31`	`Wobin`	`like?`
`07:10.17`	`mjc`	`hum, Uplink::GetDataZG doesn't exist. how interesting`
`07:11.23`	`Kebinusan`	`anything said in raid chat about chuck norris I'd hope`
`07:11.41`	`Kebinusan`	`but I think just most ctra boss alert spam`
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`07:25.23`	`ckknight`	`advice: should I mandate interfaces then mixins, mixins then interfaces, or arbitrary placement? (for arguments)`
`07:29.39`	`Wobin`	`I don't understand enough to make a comment`
`07:31.53`	`ckknight`	`I'll explain`
`07:31.58`	`mjc`	`mrplow uses a lot of memory while it plows lol`
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`07:32.16`	`ckknight`	`to make a class, it's currently: AceOO.Class(class, ...)`
`07:32.34`	`ckknight`	`well, actually, you have AceOO.Class(a1, a2, a3, a4, etc.)`
`07:32.44`	`ckknight`	`a1 is typically a class`
`07:32.49`	`ckknight`	`the rest are all mixins`
`07:32.56`	`ckknight`	`a1 can also be a mixin`
`07:33.10`	`ckknight`	`either way, a class is either first or nonexistant (thus inheriting from Object)`
`07:33.31`	`ckknight`	`so it goes in order class-mixins, where either are optional`
`07:33.43`	`ckknight`	`should I make it also go in order of class-interface-mixins?`
`07:33.50`	`ckknight`	`interfaces*`
`07:34.12`	`Wobin`	`mjc: That's only cause it's moving items around. Can't do much about that, it's already pretty optimised in the sorting`
`07:34.59`	`Wobin`	`ckknight: And interfaces are?`
`07:35.16`	`ckknight`	`interfaces list what fields are required`
`07:35.32`	`ckknight`	`e.g. IBarkable requires that Bark is a function.`
`07:36.47`	`Wobin`	`are each of them identifiable despite the order sent (class/mixin/interface)?`
`07:37.10`	`mjc`	`heh, I can't remember which mods are doing the "found in:"/"dropped by:" thing in my tooltips`
`07:37.21`	`Wobin`	`Mendy`
`07:37.45`	`ckknight`	`Wobin, you can always do inherits(thingy, Interface)`
`07:37.56`	`mjc`	`aha`
`07:38.27`	`Wobin`	`What are the advantages of an ordered setup?`
`07:38.35`	`ckknight`	`readability`
`07:38.53`	`Wobin`	`perhaps leave that to the author`
`07:41.17`	`mjc`	`how do I add info to mendeleev?`
`07:41.52`	`mjc`	`nm, I see`
`07:42.34`	`mjc`	`the AQ20/40 stuff isn't in there`
`07:44.43`	`Shyva`	`not yet.. I've AQ40 added to my locals files tho`
`07:44.59`	`Shyva`	`I should send them to Tekkub ^^`
`07:46.51`	`mjc`	`or just ask someone to commit them ;P`
`07:47.44`	`Shyva`	`I can do it myself, but I don't wanna mess with moon and tekkubs files..`
`07:50.08`	`mjc`	`hmm, kc_item's iteminfo thing, when set to show a separate thingy, sometimes only shows the separate frame until I click the link twice`
`07:50.41`	`Shyva`	`I have some more weird problems with the kci tooltip :-s`
`07:52.01`	`mjc`	`FlightMap is a useful addon too`
`07:57.36`	`mjc`	`svn.wowace.com doesnt' like me atm`
`07:58.19`	`ckknight`	`hrm?`
`07:58.38`	`mjc`	`http://svn.wowace.com gives me a 500`
`07:58.49`	`[Ammo]`	`morning`
`07:58.57`	`Wobin`	`mjc: You'll want to use an SVN client`
`07:59.00`	`Gngsk`	`hey ammo`
`07:59.05`	`[Ammo]`	`so much work to do on Cthun`
`07:59.06`	`[Ammo]`	`meh`
`07:59.09`	`Gngsk`	`yea`
`07:59.15`	`[Ammo]`	`but I found out why it was horribly broken`
`07:59.16`	`Gngsk`	`make the timers stop when you wipe`
`07:59.16`	`mjc`	`Wobin: why's there a link to it then?`
`07:59.23`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe they should`
`07:59.25`	`Shyva`	`morgen [Ammo]`
`07:59.29`	`Wobin`	`Because the website is down`
`07:59.32`	`[Ammo]`	`but Shyva has a new way :)`
`07:59.33`	`mjc`	`ah`
`07:59.44`	`Shyva`	`I'll implent it on Cthun too [Ammo]`
`07:59.48`	`Gngsk`	`I updated just after you went to sleep and they weren't`
`07:59.48`	`[Ammo]`	`coolio`
`07:59.59`	`[Ammo]`	`but were the phase 1 timer correct?`
`08:00.06`	`Gngsk`	`yep`
`08:00.09`	`[Ammo]`	`phew`
`08:00.32`	`Gngsk`	`I don't think the dark glare target component was working 100% though`
`08:00.33`	`[Ammo]`	`then I knew my problems`
`08:00.38`	`[Ammo]`	`it doesn't always work`
`08:00.45`	`[Ammo]`	`it depends on someone in the raid targetting cthun`
`08:00.55`	`[Ammo]`	`it might be off by a few seconds as well I noticed that`
`08:00.59`	`[Ammo]`	`but I'll fix it today`
`08:01.03`	`Gngsk`	`cool`
`08:01.04`	`[Ammo]`	`and then work on the phase2 transition`
`08:01.10`	`Gngsk`	`ahh, heh`
`08:01.17`	`Gngsk`	`dunno when I'll be able to test that :\`
`08:01.17`	`[Ammo]`	`I have a much better understanding of the damn fight after getting the eye deaded`
`08:01.29`	`[Ammo]`	`well we're going to him tonight and tomorrow night`
`08:01.36`	`[Ammo]`	`then maintenance and have to wait again :)`
`08:01.43`	`Gngsk`	`yah`
`08:01.53`	`[Ammo]`	`at least we made excelelnt progress`
`08:02.02`	`[Ammo]`	`first night was 79% 64% 62% 49% or so`
`08:02.08`	`[Ammo]`	`with lots of casualties on entry`
`08:02.18`	`Gngsk`	`yah, heh`
`08:02.21`	`Gngsk`	`fun fight`
`08:02.37`	`[Ammo]`	`our first one last night was 47% then a 43% then a 3% and then dead and we survived 1 minute after that or so`
`08:03.13`	`Shyva`	`We have major problems with Huhuran this week.. she sucks really hard :-/`
`08:03.24`	`Shyva`	`Twins is even more easy`
`08:04.12`	`[Ammo]`	`huhuran is kinda easymode once the buffer realizes you can wear cloth to boost your NR`
`08:04.19`	`[Ammo]`	`once we got our rogues wearing dresses it all went well :)`
`08:04.47`	`[Ammo]`	`the trash after twins is such a pai`
`08:04.49`	`[Ammo]`	`+n`
`08:05.15`	`Shyva`	`all these people in my guild say: no, I don't want cloth, I wanna do dmg... I tell them that you cann't do dmg when you're death.. but they don't listen..`
`08:05.49`	`[Ammo]`	`our best rogue and officer just told them to shut it and wear it`
`08:06.02`	`[Ammo]`	`then after the fight they were convinced ;)`
`08:06.11`	`Shyva`	`Twins trash is easy man.. just don't pull one with thunderclap..`
`08:07.34`	`Kebinusan`	`heh`
`08:07.47`	`[Ammo]`	`those are easy as well :)`
`08:07.50`	`[Ammo]`	`we kill what we pull`
`08:07.57`	`[Ammo]`	`have done so from the first pull we made`
`08:08.09`	`Kebinusan`	`aoe manaburn/fear sucks`
`08:08.11`	`CIA-12`	`03shyva * r2930 10BigWigs/AQ40/ (BugFamily.lua Cthun.lua Sartura.lua Twins.lua Viscidus.lua):`
`08:08.11`	`CIA-12`	`BigWigs:`
`08:08.11`	`CIA-12`	`- Added Victory sounds to some other bosses.`
`08:08.11`	`CIA-12`	`- Better whipe detection at Twins and C'Thun`
`08:08.29`	`mjc`	`no h in wipe :P`
`08:08.45`	`Shyva`	`arg!!! I always, always do that wrong!`
`08:08.45`	`[Ammo]`	`shrug`
`08:08.47`	`Kebinusan`	`How'd the c'thun mod work in practice?`
`08:08.52`	`[Ammo]`	`it sucked`
`08:09.02`	`Kebinusan`	`that sucks`
`08:09.04`	`Shyva`	`and I know it's without a H, but still I type a H each time -_-`
`08:09.04`	`[Ammo]`	`the self:StartTentacleRape() addition fucked me over :)`
`08:09.09`	`[Ammo]`	`but I've corrected that`
`08:09.11`	`[Ammo]`	`phase1 is now good`
`08:09.20`	`[Ammo]`	`just need to get the offset for dark glare somewhat better`
`08:09.29`	`Kebinusan`	`I think it should be ~85 seconds`
`08:09.30`	`[Ammo]`	`so it reports the group closer to it glaring`
`08:09.36`	`[Ammo]`	`dark glare is every 90 seconds`
`08:09.47`	`[Ammo]`	`but we were still using Haste's timers`
`08:09.50`	`[Ammo]`	`which were 1 second faster`
`08:10.00`	`[Ammo]`	`so if you use those in a metro schedule it goes wrong`
`08:10.02`	`Kebinusan`	`every 50+lasts 35 I thought`
`08:10.08`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm`
`08:10.20`	`[Ammo]`	`I'll check AQWarner, see what their timers say`
`08:11.06`	`Kebinusan`	`I was fiddling a bit with the ouro mod, but we didnt raid this weekend due to holiday so Im kinda waiting to see if we can field 40 tonight`
`08:11.30`	`[Ammo]`	`you're right kebinu`
`08:11.32`	`[Ammo]`	`it's 85 seconds`
`08:11.39`	`Kebinusan`	`I got tired of testing mods on frostmane trolls`
`08:11.46`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`08:12.32`	`CIA-12`	`03shyva * r2931 10BigWigs/AQ40/ (Cthun.lua Twins.lua): BigWigs: Fixed the "Whipe" typo's in the files too ^^`
`08:12.49`	`Kebinusan`	`hehehe Shyva`
`08:13.12`	`Shyva`	`I blame my dyslexia!`
`08:13.25`	`Kebinusan`	`I wasnt real sure that the start time for phase2 was correct`
`08:13.49`	`Kebinusan`	`Im guessing it was off by a few seconds?`
`08:13.57`	`[Ammo]`	`not sure`
`08:14.06`	`[Ammo]`	`I was too busy inside the stomach :)`
`08:14.13`	`Kebinusan`	`heh`
`08:14.20`	`[Ammo]`	`got eaten right at start meh`
`08:14.31`	`Kebinusan`	`I wrote a lil bit of code into my mod, to tell people to gtfo since that was a big problem for us`
`08:14.59`	`[Ammo]`	`does it work?`
`08:15.14`	`Kebinusan`	`havent had a chance to test it in practice, but in theory it works great`
`08:15.25`	`Kebinusan`	`lemme dig out the bits here`
`08:16.28`	`[Ammo]`	`AQWarner does phase2 detection pretty weird`
`08:16.38`	`[Ammo]`	`they check for regen disabled again`
`08:16.47`	`[Ammo]`	`do you go out of combat shortly?`
`08:17.02`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2932 10AceLibrary/AceOO.lua: AceOO - converted most spaces to tabs`
`08:17.22`	`Kebinusan`	`http://ace.pastebin.com/717941, it should work just not sure if the event is right`
`08:17.35`	`Kebinusan`	`used to, I think they fixed the combat break between phase1 and 2`
`08:17.51`	`Kebinusan`	`plus it can be unlucky if you get tentacle spawns at the transistion combat would never break`
`08:18.07`	`[Ammo]`	`k`
`08:18.21`	`[Ammo]`	`how long does the body take to rise after the eye dies?`
`08:19.05`	`[Ammo]`	`because that's the offset we need to add to 30 seconds before the first tentacles in phase2 :)`
`08:19.25`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah, I think its 7-12 seconds`
`08:20.02`	`Kebinusan`	`lemme see if I combat logged a fight`
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`08:22.16`	`CIA-12`	`03wobin * r2933 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Misc/PTEmbedElemMisc.lua: PeriodicTable - reduced the trinkets down to the engineered ones. Others are dealt with by their slot`
`08:23.05`	`[Ammo]`	`Kebinusan: the pahse2 start offset is now 12 seconds`
`08:24.12`	`CIA-12`	`03wobin * r2934 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Misc/PTEmbedElemMisc.lua: PeriodicTable - Bah, lets call them devices instead.`
`08:25.43`	`Kebinusan`	`00:05:16.648 Eye of C'Thun dies.`
`08:25.43`	`Kebinusan`	`00:05:58.414 Eye Tentacle's Ground Rupture hits Vyse for 1508.`
`08:26.07`	`[Ammo]`	`42 it is`
`08:26.09`	`[Ammo]`	`k`
`08:26.50`	`Kebinusan`	`If you wanted to add a warning for giant eye spawns they spawn every other small eye spawn in phase 2`
`08:27.19`	`[Ammo]`	`I know`
`08:27.21`	`[Ammo]`	`every 60 seconds`
`08:27.32`	`[Ammo]`	`but need to get the phase2 timers right first`
`08:27.35`	`[Ammo]`	`the normal ones`
`08:27.46`	`Kebinusan`	`yea`
`08:27.59`	`Kebinusan`	`what was the offset before?`
`08:29.31`	`[Ammo]`	`different`
`08:29.35`	`[Ammo]`	`but I think I got it sorted now`
`08:29.48`	`[Ammo]`	`readded your self:TentacleRape() thing to the restart of the schedule as well`
`08:29.54`	`[Ammo]`	`since it was supposed to be in there indeed`
`08:29.57`	`[Ammo]`	`and wasn't used in phase1`
`08:30.22`	`[Ammo]`	`does the first set of small eyes in phase2 spawn big ones or the second one?`
`08:30.36`	`Kebinusan`	`lemme scan this combat log a bit more`
`08:30.50`	`Kebinusan`	`pretty sure its teh second set though`
`08:34.59`	`Kebinusan`	`bah this combat log doesnt have a good ground rupture event... but Im pretty sure its not till the second spawn because otherwise you'd have a giant claw and a giant eye in the first 42 seconds of phase 2`
`08:35.47`	`[Ammo]`	`one eye spawns every 60seconds right?`
`08:35.54`	`[Ammo]`	`and one giant claw on the other event?`
`08:36.45`	`Kebinusan`	`pretty sure giant eyes are every other group of small ey`
`08:36.50`	`Kebinusan`	`es`
`08:37.02`	`Kebinusan`	`but the problem is that all the events get postponed for weakenings`
`08:37.02`	`[Ammo]`	`and the claws?`
`08:37.05`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`08:37.11`	`Kebinusan`	`I think claws are on their own timer`
`08:37.18`	`[Ammo]`	`k I'll ignore those for now`
`08:37.24`	`[Ammo]`	`since Eyes are the killers`
`08:37.34`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah`
`08:40.59`	`[Ammo]`	`it's starting to look better already`
`08:41.12`	`[Ammo]`	`just one more schedule for the giant eyes`
`08:41.39`	`Kebinusan`	`could jsut add an if statement in the small eye schedule`
`08:42.02`	`Kebinusan`	`set a boolean so it'd run every other schedule`
`08:42.40`	`Kebinusan`	`that should make it take weakenings into account as well`
`08:47.23`	`[Ammo]`	`true`
`08:47.34`	`[Ammo]`	`good idea actually :)`
`08:47.46`	`[Ammo]`	`weakenings should reset the boolean too`
`08:48.00`	`Kebinusan`	`actually I dont think they do`
`08:48.05`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm`
`08:48.25`	`Kebinusan`	`pretty sure we've gotten a giant eye spawn the first small spawn after a weakening`
`08:49.01`	`mjc`	`meh... stupid phones and their proprietary shaped USB data cable things`
`08:49.25`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2935 10AceLibrary/ (AceAddon.lua AceDB.lua AceOO.lua): AceOO - added Interfaces`
`08:49.50`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2936 10AceLibrary/ (5 files): Ace2/TestSuite - added AceOO-Interface unit tests`
`08:49.54`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`08:50.02`	`ckknight`	`and now AceOO has interfaces`
`08:51.18`	`MoonWolf`	`yay`
`08:51.26`	`MoonWolf`	`now we can confuse newbies even more`
`08:51.44`	`ckknight`	`hooray!`
`08:51.50`	`ckknight`	`I don't plan to use em`
`08:51.53`	`ckknight`	`but they exist`
`08:51.54`	`Kebinusan`	`heh`
`08:51.57`	`ckknight`	`that's the point`
`08:54.09`	`ckknight`	`they aren't as "full-featured" as other languages, since you don't have interface inheritance and such`
`08:54.16`	`ckknight`	`but meh`
`08:54.28`	`Kebinusan`	`someone will complain`
`08:54.33`	`Kebinusan`	`heheh`
`08:54.37`	`ckknight`	`douches.`
`08:55.24`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`08:56.26`	`ckknight`	`dammit.`
`08:58.19`	`MoonWolf`	`Something the matter ?`
`08:58.21`	`CIA-12`	`03ammo * r2937 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua:`
`08:58.21`	`CIA-12`	`BigWigs:`
`08:58.21`	`CIA-12`	`* Fixed CheckWipe to not use Twins related code.`
`08:58.21`	`CIA-12`	`* Should have fixed Phase2 warnings, offsets and weaking reschedule`
`08:58.21`	`CIA-12`	`* Added Giant Eye tentacle warnings`
`08:58.35`	`ckknight`	`MoonWolf, I'm gonna have to add interface inheritance`
`08:59.20`	`MoonWolf`	`why ? your not even using interfaces to begin with.`
`08:59.46`	`ckknight`	`I'm not, someone else might`
`09:00.59`	`[Ammo]`	`Kebinusan: test that new code :)`
`09:01.28`	`[Ammo]`	`now it's time to do some work instead of Cthun modules :)`
`09:03.41`	`CIA-12`	`03wobin * r2938 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Misc/PTEmbedElemMisc.lua: PeriodicTable - comma. Again.`
`09:08.10`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah I'll go harass some trolls before tonight`
`09:08.15`	`Kebinusan`	`then hopefully test it tonight`
`09:17.37`	`[Ammo]`	`think tekkub minds if I change the Tank initials to use the first 2 letters of the tank name?`
`09:17.47`	`[Ammo]`	`we have 2 tanks with a P and 2 with an A :)`
`09:17.55`	`[Ammo]`	`for perfectraidtargets`
`09:20.31`	`CIA-12`	`03ammo * r2939 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua:`
`09:20.32`	`CIA-12`	`BigWigs:`
`09:20.32`	`CIA-12`	`* Fixed typo in Cthun module`
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`09:22.18`	`phyber`	`was that the 'untill' typo?`
`09:22.33`	`phyber`	`I saw that earlier but didn't say anything, wondered how long it would take you to catch ;)`
`09:23.06`	`[Ammo]`	`no`
`09:23.10`	`[Ammo]`	`it wasn't :)`
`09:23.14`	`[Ammo]`	`it was a syntax error actally :)`
`09:23.16`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm`
`09:23.22`	`[Ammo]`	`I'll check the untill now`
`09:23.39`	`Kebinusan`	`heheh combat= "C'Thun event started - 45 sec untill Dark Glare and Eyes",`
`09:23.43`	`[Ammo]`	`sorry english isn't my main language`
`09:23.52`	`[Ammo]`	`so I can make silly typo's like that`
`09:24.12`	`CIA-18`	`03ammo * r2940 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua:`
`09:24.12`	`CIA-18`	`BigWigs:`
`09:24.12`	`CIA-18`	`* Cthun: untill -> until.`
`09:24.19`	`CIA-18`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2941 10AceLibrary/AceOO.lua: AceOO - now has Interface inheritance`
`09:24.37`	`[Ammo]`	`now it's time to spank BigWigsCTRA into submission`
`09:24.42`	`ckknight`	`there we go.`
`09:24.50`	`CIA-18`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2942 10AceLibrary/AceOO-Interface-6.lua: Ace2/TestSuite - added AceOO-Interface-6.lua`
`09:25.06`	`ckknight`	`now all those bitches will get off my back`
`09:25.20`	`ckknight`	`<cough>Kebinusan></cough>`
`09:25.52`	`Kebinusan`	`oh crap I hope you didnt add that just for me, because the chances of me actually coding anything that requires that are somewhere between zero and nil`
`09:26.06`	`ckknight`	`actually I did`
`09:26.09`	`ckknight`	`but I'm glad I did`
`09:26.12`	`CIA-18`	`03ammo * r2943 10BigWigsCTRA/BigWigsCTRA.lua:`
`09:26.13`	`CIA-18`	`BigWigsCTRA:`
`09:26.13`	`CIA-18`	`* Now listens correctly to the noraidsay flag and does nothing.`
`09:26.13`	`ckknight`	`so don't worry about it`
`09:27.08`	`Kebinusan`	`too bad its not RPN, that'd be fun`
`09:27.11`	`Kebinusan`	`;-)`
`09:27.14`	`ckknight`	`RPN?`
`09:27.21`	`ckknight`	`reverse polish notation?`
`09:27.25`	`Kebinusan`	`hehe yea`
`09:27.31`	`ckknight`	`wtf why`
`09:27.46`	`ckknight`	`I was born into the TI era`
`09:27.57`	`ckknight`	`where our operators occur in the middle`
`09:28.08`	`Kebinusan`	`heheh`
`09:28.36`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah, but if you really wanted to confuse people`
`09:28.41`	`Kebinusan`	`rpn is the way to go`
`09:29.22`	`ckknight`	`1 5 0.5 ** + 2 /`
`09:29.31`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`09:29.35`	`ckknight`	`that's cheating`
`09:29.36`	`ckknight`	`hang on`
`09:29.43`	`ckknight`	`1 5 1 2 / ** + 2 /`
`09:29.46`	`ckknight`	`there we go`
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`09:30.14`	`Kebinusan`	`heheh`
`09:30.17`	`ckknight`	`c'mon, who can figure it out first?`
`09:30.23`	`ckknight`	`Kebinusan, you got it already?`
`09:30.41`	`Kebinusan`	`lol not at this hour, I havent even had a bagel yet`
`09:30.47`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`09:30.56`	`ckknight`	`it's phi`
`09:34.40`	`Wobin`	`I can't even recall enough RPN to figure it out =P`
`09:34.41`	`CIA-18`	`03ckknight 07Examples * r2944 10AceLibrary/AceOO-8-interfaces.lua: Ace2/Examples - added AceOO-8-interfaces.lua`
`09:35.52`	`ckknight`	`Wobin, it's the golden ratio`
`09:35.59`	`ckknight`	`(1 + sqrt(5)) / 2`
`09:36.34`	`ckknight`	`1 / phi = phi - 1`
`09:36.36`	`ckknight`	`and such`
`09:36.54`	`Wobin`	`1 + 5 ** 1/2`
`09:37.04`	`Wobin`	`/2`
`09:37.06`	`Wobin`	`aha`
`09:37.17`	`ckknight`	`it's 1.6180339887498948482045868343656`
`09:37.22`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`09:38.07`	`ckknight`	`when you get to large fibonacci values, fib(n + 1) / fib(n) = phi`
`09:38.37`	`ckknight`	`also, fib(n) = (phin - (1/phi)n) / (phi - 1/phi)`
`09:38.47`	`Wobin`	`It's scary how that works out`
`09:38.53`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`09:39.34`	`Shyva`	`I don't understand a single letter of all this blabla xD`
`09:39.43`	`CIA-18`	`03ckknight 07Examples * r2945 10AceLibrary/AceOO-8-interfaces.lua: Ace2/Examples - updated AceOO-8-interfaces.lua`
`09:39.48`	`ckknight`	`Shyva, you what the fibonacci sequence is?`
`09:39.55`	`Shyva`	`no :p`
`09:40.00`	`ckknight`	`1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13`
`09:40.02`	`ckknight`	`that one`
`09:40.14`	`ckknight`	`fib(n) = fib(n - 1) + fib(n - 2)`
`09:40.16`	`Shyva`	`Ah, yea`
`09:40.20`	`ckknight`	`fib(1) = 1`
`09:40.22`	`ckknight`	`fib(0) = 0`
`09:40.26`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`09:40.39`	`Shyva`	`hmmm, we use u instead of fib in NL I think :-/`
`09:42.14`	`ckknight`	`the most accurate and fastest way to figure out the fibonacci sequence is through matrix multiplication`
`09:42.25`	`SunTiger`	`example ?`
`09:42.55`	`ckknight`	`[fib(n + 1) fib(n)]`
`09:43.02`	`ckknight`	`[fib(n) fib(n-1)]`
`09:43.06`	`ckknight`	`=`
`09:43.14`	`ckknight`	`[1 1]`
`09:43.17`	`ckknight`	`[1 0]`
`09:43.19`	`ckknight`	`** n`
`09:43.26`	`ckknight`	`assume those are 2x2 matrices`
`09:43.57`	`SunTiger`	`hmmm`
`09:43.58`	`SunTiger`	`makes sense.`
`09:44.12`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ`
`09:44.20`	`ckknight`	`lemme pastebin`
`09:45.00`	`ckknight`	`http://ace.pastebin.com/718020`
`09:45.05`	`ckknight`	`^--- python`
`09:45.33`	`ckknight`	`since python uses big integers, it's fully accurate`
`09:45.39`	`MoonWolf`	`elif ?`
`09:45.42`	`ckknight`	`I've gotten fib(2**100)`
`09:45.51`	`MoonWolf`	`some weird elseif keyword /`
`09:45.52`	`ckknight`	`elif is else if`
`09:45.52`	`MoonWolf`	`?*`
`09:46.28`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`09:47.17`	`MoonWolf`	`http://www.wbj.pl/?command=article&id=32372`
`09:47.51`	`ckknight`	`lol.`
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`09:51.19`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ`
`09:51.36`	`ckknight`	`hey Kaelten`
`09:59.13`	`Elkano`	`is it possible that table.sort can't handle tables of tables, even if I provide a function for sorting?`
`09:59.39`	`ckknight`	`it should be able to work`
`09:59.45`	`Elkano`	`the game throws an "attempt to compare two table values" after me :(`
`09:59.47`	`ckknight`	`what's your sort function?`
`10:00.09`	`Elkano`	`self written, I'l pastebin`
`10:01.39`	`Elkano`	`http://ace.pastebin.com/718044`
`10:03.41`	`ckknight`	`are any of the values in there tables?`
`10:04.55`	`Elkano`	`the data is a tree build like {{id, {...}, skill}, {id, {...}, skill}, ...}`
`10:06.03`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`10:06.21`	`ckknight`	`well, tip: put in lots of print statements.`
`10:06.49`	`CIA-18`	`03wobin * r2946 10PlowKing/ (6 files):`
`10:06.49`	`CIA-18`	`PlowKing - Made it prettier.`
`10:06.49`	`CIA-18`	`- Bound to OpenAllBags et al`
`10:07.54`	`Wobin`	`{...}?`
`10:08.12`	`Wobin`	`oh`
`10:08.16`	`Wobin`	`I think we need more code`
`10:08.19`	`Elkano`	`{...} is itself sth like {{id, {...}, skill}, {id, {...}, skill}, ...}`
`10:08.35`	`Wobin`	`argh recursive =)`
`10:09.37`	`Elkano`	`updated http://ace.pastebin.com/718056`
`10:10.00`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`10:10.03`	`ckknight`	`silly Elkano`
`10:10.34`	`ckknight`	`you do realize you are doing table.sort(rt, nil)`
`10:10.38`	`ckknight`	`not table.sort(rt, SortUsedInTree)`
`10:10.49`	`ckknight`	`SortUsedInTree is local and declared after that`
`10:11.13`	`Elkano`	`hmm... ^^'`
`10:12.41`	`Elkano`	`\o/`
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`10:15.04`	`ckknight_`	`blast`
`10:15.58`	`Wobin`	`okay, anyone who's currently trying out PlowKing, give this version a go`
`10:16.13`	`Wobin`	`It's pretty close to being finished. Just need to add tooltip scanning`
`10:16.19`	`Wobin`	`unless people can offer more ideas`
`10:16.34`	`Wobin`	`Ctrl-Rightclick will bring up most menus`
`10:17.21`	`MoonWolf`	`k'`
`10:17.25`	`MoonWolf`	`will do when i get home.`
`10:25.46`	`phyber`	`Wobin: would it be possible for you to make an option for PlowKing to have boring backgrounds? like Bagnon.`
`10:26.08`	`Wobin`	`define boring?`
`10:26.26`	`phyber`	`no art.`
`10:26.50`	`phyber`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full2581.jpg`
`10:26.52`	`phyber`	`like this`
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`10:36.25`	`Mabus`	`hey, I'm having some problems with AceHeal; I've assigned 'EmergencyHeal' to LeftButton, but it always uses Flash Heal rank 1 when I try, even if I have 1 HP (after a duel).`
`10:36.39`	`Mabus`	`Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?`
`10:43.21`	`CIA-18`	`03elkano 07Elkano * r2947 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua: Mendeleev: used by is now sorted by skill and at most 15 lines will be added for it`
`10:57.45`	`CIA-18`	`03ammo * r2948 10BigWigs/ (18 files in 2 dirs):`
`10:57.45`	`CIA-18`	`BigWigs:`
`10:57.45`	`CIA-18`	`* Moved all mp3's into the Sounds/ folder. And adjusted Sound.lua to look for them there`
`10:57.45`	`CIA-18`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:10.47`	`CIA-18`	`03handdol * r2950 10oRA_Zone/oRA_ZoneLocals.lua: Korean localization is added`
`11:12.54`	`Industrial`	`mornin`
`11:13.00`	`Shyva`	`Yow Industrial`
`11:17.17`	`Mabus`	`I noticed AceHeal tries to assign FALSE and TRUE to a variable, but I don't think that actually works?`
`11:17.34`	`Mabus`	`It also returns FALSE or TRUE from :FreeMana()`
`11:17.59`	`Shyva`	`TRUE = 1`
`11:17.59`	`Shyva`	`FALSE = nil`
`11:18.01`	`Shyva`	`in ace..`
`11:18.06`	`Shyva`	`so, yeah, it works`
`11:18.10`	`Mabus`	`aha`
`11:18.34`	`Shyva`	`TRUE or FALSE is better for saved vars iirc, was a thread about that a very very long time ago`
`11:18.54`	`Mabus`	`ah`
`11:18.59`	`Mabus`	`oh, that's Ace only?`
`11:19.10`	`Mabus`	`right`
`11:19.35`	`Shyva`	`well, in ace.lua those are declared`
`11:19.40`	`Mabus`	`exactly`
`11:20.06`	`Mabus`	`lets say you do \|if (localVariable) then\|, does it matter to Lua if \|localVariable\| is undefined or nil?`
`11:20.52`	`Shyva`	`if it localvariable doesn't exist it will just not do the things after then..`
`11:21.05`	`Shyva`	`same if it's nil`
`11:21.11`	`Mabus`	`so it doesn't matter`
`11:21.14`	`Shyva`	`nah`
`11:22.20`	`Mabus`	`bah, since AceHeal is being developed actively I'm not going to learn the entire codebase to fix this`
`11:22.26`	`Mabus`	`castparty here I come`
`11:23.15`	`ckknight_`	`tip: don't use TRUE and FALSE`
`11:23.46`	`Shyva`	`why not? not that I use them.. but I remember it was good to use them :-s`
`11:24.12`	`[Ammo]`	`I use true and nil`
`11:24.13`	`[Ammo]`	`shrug`
`11:24.21`	`Shyva`	`yeah, same`
`11:26.21`	`Industrial`	`Wobin: you about?`
`11:26.43`	`Industrial`	`When i Start with the addon the plowking bags open, but when i want to toggle it i get an error`
`11:27.03`	`Industrial`	`plowking.lua line 50: index is nil`
`11:27.06`	`Industrial`	`PlowKingDB[PlowKing.k.SaveKey][var] = not PlowKingDB[PlowKing.k.SaveKey][var]`
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`11:33.09`	`[Wobin]`	`Indy /script PlowKingDB = {}`
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`11:40.32`	`Wobble`	`rarar`
`11:47.51`	`ckknight_`	`rar.`
`11:48.23`	`Shyva`	`.zip!`
`11:49.11`	`ckknight_`	`.tar.bz2`
`11:49.17`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm anyone know if there is an SVN client that can show me diffs between previous commits of a certain file nice and colorized like the websvn should be?`
`11:49.30`	`ckknight_`	`TortoiseSVN`
`11:49.44`	`[Ammo]`	`k`
`11:49.52`	`ckknight_`	`Windows only`
`11:49.53`	`[Ammo]`	`handoll has been touching my Cthun.lua`
`11:50.02`	`[Ammo]`	`and it has like a gazillion changed lines :p`
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`12:06.55`	`Wobin`	`has he touched you in the cthun place =(`
`12:09.43`	`clad\|sleep`	`[Ammo]: svn diff will show you`
`12:09.46`	`clad\|sleep`	`commandline`
`12:09.59`	`clad\|sleep`	`but for nice and colorized you have to go with a gui client =(`
`12:12.46`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`12:20.32`	`[Ammo]`	`I know how to work the commandline, but having a nice red and green etc overview is much easier to read than + and - :)`
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`12:34.56`	`phyber`	`weeeee.`
`12:35.10`	`phyber`	`well, my lunch break, so i guess it's my time.`
`12:55.30`	`clad\|sleep`	`lol`
`12:55.36`	`clad\|sleep`	`i'm taking a vacatino day to take a job interview =)`
`13:03.43`	`Industrial`	`go clad`
`13:03.44`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`13:13.12`	`CIA-18`	`03wobin * r2951 10PlowKing/ (4 files): PlowKing - Fixed an inventory merging issue with equippable items`
`13:36.46`	`Wobin`	`hehe`
`13:36.56`	`Wobin`	`entirely unhelpful post by Fisker_q =P`
`13:37.07`	`Wobin`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1561.msg26925.html#msg26925`
`13:38.38`	`[Ammo]`	`smite!`
`13:49.05`	`Mikma`	`Wobin: hey new beta! that's nice`
`13:49.14`	`Wobin`	`=)`
`13:49.43`	`Mikma`	`but, the post under your's is stupid :/`
`13:58.45`	`Tain`	`Hardware for the new fileserver is on the truck for delivery.`
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`14:37.12`	`mjc`	`hmm, was there not a mod that would auto master loot on bosses?`
`14:38.15`	`Industrial`	`Wobin: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1561.msg26933.html#msg26933`
`14:42.33`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2952 10idActionBar/ (. Bindings.xml Buttons.xml idActionBar.lua idActionBar.toc): idActionBar: Initial upload`
`14:43.48`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2953 10idActionBar/idActionBar.lua: idActionBar: No more shitty borders, just icons.`
`14:44.42`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2954 10idChatButtons/ (. idChatButtons.lua idChatButtons.toc): idChatButtons: Initial upload.`
`14:45.23`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2955 10idChatButtons/idChatButtons.lua: idChatButtons: The buttons weren't hiding when you made a new tab/window. Fixed.`
`14:46.06`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2956 10idChatChannelnames/ (. idChatChannelnames.lua idChatChannelnames.toc): idChatChannelnames: Initial upload.`
`14:46.47`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2957 10idChatEditbox/ (. idChatEditbox.lua idChatEditbox.toc): idChatEditbox: Initial Upload.`
`14:47.36`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2958 10idChatEditbox/idChatEditbox.toc: idChatEditbox: Fixed compatibility with VisorEditbox.`
`14:48.30`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2959 10idChatEditboxArrows/ (. idChatEditboxArrows.lua idChatEditboxArrows.toc): idChatEditboxArrows: Initial upload.`
`14:49.09`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2960 10idChatEditboxArrows/idChatEditboxArrows.lua: idChatEditboxArrows: The (unused) Disable fucntion wasnt working.`
`14:49.43`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2961 10idChatEditboxArrows/idChatEditboxArrows.toc: idChatEditboxArrows: Fixed compatibility with VisorEditbox.`
`14:50.20`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2962 10idChatPlayernames/ (. idChatPlayernames.lua idChatPlayernames.toc): idChatPlayernames: Initial upload.`
`14:50.55`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2963 10idChatPlayernames/idChatPlayernames.lua: idChatPlayernames: Whispers are now correctly formatted.`
`14:51.55`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2964 10idChatTellTarget/ (. idChatTellTarget.lua idChatTellTarget.toc): idChatTellTarget: Initial upload.`
`14:51.57`	`phyber`	`spams!`
`14:52.09`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2965 10idChatScroll/ (. idChatScroll.lua idChatScroll.toc): idChatScroll: Initial upload.`
`14:52.15`	`phyber`	`nice for them to join the SVN at last :)`
`14:52.42`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2966 10idChatTimestamps/ (. idChatTimestamps.lua idChatTimestamps.toc): idChatTimestamps: Initial upload.`
`14:53.35`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2967 10idChatTimestamps/idChatTimestamps.lua: idChatTimestamps: Fixed the bug where all percent characters didn't show.`
`14:54.36`	`CIA-18`	`03id * r2968 10idMinimap/ (. idMinimap.lua idMinimap.toc): idMinimap: Initial upload.`
`14:55.07`	`Industrial`	`there, done`
`14:55.10`	`Industrial`	`for now ^^`
`14:55.49`	`haste`	`wow :o`
`14:58.19`	`mjc`	`oRA_BigWigs, oRA_MainTankFrames, PerfectRaid, OneBag, WhoNote, and MiniBlizzRaid all need their interface number updated`
`14:59.07`	`[Ammo]`	`no they don't`
`14:59.35`	`haste`	`"they do"`
`14:59.43`	`haste`	`at least oRA_BigWigs`
`14:59.47`	`[Ammo]`	`naaah`
`14:59.51`	`[Ammo]`	`well maybe :p`
`14:59.54`	`mjc`	`heh`
`14:59.59`	`haste`	`they don't need it however ;D`
`15:00.15`	`[Ammo]`	`11000 is correc right?`
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`15:00.18`	`haste`	`yes`
`15:00.21`	`mjc`	`yep`
`15:00.38`	`mjc`	`PoisonMaster is a pretty sexy mod :P`
`15:00.39`	`maia`	`yup?`
`15:00.41`	`CIA-18`	`03ammo * r2969 10oRA_BigWigs/oRA_BigWigs.toc:`
`15:00.41`	`CIA-18`	`oRA_BigWigs:`
`15:00.42`	`CIA-18`	`* Interface number updated because of whinging.`
`15:00.42`	`[Ammo]`	`there.`
`15:00.53`	`haste`	`wing-wong`
`15:00.54`	`[Ammo]`	`now leave me alone!`
`15:00.58`	`[Ammo]`	`:p`
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`15:01.05`	`Amadeo`	`hola`
`15:01.10`	`haste`	`I will at least, thinking about getting myself wasted today :p`
`15:02.12`	`mjc`	`lol`
`15:03.37`	`mjc`	`nothing wrong with that`
`15:04.12`	`mjc`	`hmm, integrating AH_MailCollect with KC_Items if it's not loaded sounds like a fun project tody`
`15:04.13`	`mjc`	`today`
`15:05.01`	`Tain`	`Good idea!`
`15:05.10`	`mjc`	`yep`
`15:05.33`	`mjc`	`with a bit more work, KC_I should be able to keep track of how much you keep paying the AH, etc.`
`15:05.41`	`Tain`	`AH_MailCollect has some bugs in it, and I never wanted to go back because it does the couple of little of things I wanted.`
`15:05.53`	`Tain`	`But a more full-blown mail and auction tracking system would be a great thing for people to have.`
`15:05.55`	`mjc`	`be amazed if I manage to produce anything useful though`
`15:06.20`	`Tain`	`I do think a lot of people would use something like that.`
`15:06.43`	`Tain`	`Which is one of the reasons I never tried to do any more, I don't want to support them. Users bug me. ;)`
`15:08.13`	`maia`	`as I need to debug pet support for squishy: if I leveled my hunter to lvl5 within 58 minutes, how much longer will I need for lvl10?`
`15:10.05`	`Tain`	`I think the last few characters took me ah... not sure, less than 4 hours to 10, and that's probably really a bad estimate. It's probably just another 2 hours`
`15:10.43`	`mjc`	`grind, and it'll take less time`
`15:10.54`	`mjc`	`I have a hunter though, maia, if you want some help`
`15:10.58`	`[Ammo]`	`actually questing at low levels is much better`
`15:11.21`	`[Ammo]`	`at least dorf hunter is easy as pie with a few quests level 10 in no-time`
`15:11.24`	`mjc`	`nah, grinding takes less time.. running is a pain`
`15:11.34`	`[Ammo]`	`but kill while walking`
`15:11.35`	`maia`	`right now I'm grinding mobs 2lvls below me`
`15:11.49`	`mjc`	`oh, and if you level your hunter to 10, do the pet quest thing and the feed pet thing`
`15:11.54`	`mjc`	`or it'll just run away every time :P`
`15:12.01`	`maia`	`mjc: if you're willing to debug roster.lua in Squishy, go ahead. :)`
`15:12.07`	`maia`	`okay...`
`15:12.28`	`mjc`	`maia: does it not keep track of pets? or is it not working right`
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`15:13.04`	`maia`	`it ends up in an endless loop re-reading the roster data once pet support is enabled`
`15:14.22`	`maia`	`so you'd need to un-uncomment (?) the few lines in roster.lua that will output stuff to your chatframe, and then find out what's wrong.`
`15:14.27`	`Mikma`	`go Industrial!`
`15:14.50`	`Tain`	`I know it's the endless debate, but I still say questing takes less time at those early levels. You barely have to run anywhere and the break you get while running back helps not go crazy from the mind-numbing repetition.`
`15:16.24`	`Amadeo`	`I just grab all the quests and go from one to the next, finish them all, turn everything in at once`
`15:16.46`	`Mabus`	`I say who cares.`
`15:16.49`	`Mabus`	`:P`
`15:17.22`	`mjc`	`maia: I can take a look at it, a warlock would probably exhibit the smae issue now no?`
`15:17.53`	`maia`	`yup`
`15:18.30`	`maia`	`basically you'd only need to stare at UpdateRoster() and CheckRoster()`
`15:20.49`	`mjc`	`alright`
`15:21.10`	`mjc`	`let me snag some food, and if you haven't dinged lvl10 by the time I get back, I'll poke at it til it bleeds :P`
`15:21.16`	`maia`	`okay :)`
`15:21.45`	`mjc`	`I work on too many damn projects at once lol`
`15:22.09`	`mjc`	`six or seven mods and updates to various ones and a wowroster replacement in ruby on rails.... it's a wonder I get anything done ever`
`15:34.54`	`Wobin`	`qodd`
`15:34.57`	`Wobin`	`odd`
`15:35.00`	`Wobin`	`not nil should return true`
`15:38.51`	`Tain`	`Welcome back clad, how did it go?`
`15:38.59`	`Industrial`	`--^`
`15:39.22`	`Kebinusan`	`bah such a cool idea for a mod wasted on ctra nd forecast dependencies`
`15:39.47`	`cladhaire`	`i think it went well`
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`15:47.17`	`CIA-18`	`03ammo * r2970 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua:`
`15:47.17`	`CIA-18`	`BigWigs:`
`15:47.17`	`CIA-18`	`* Added extra messages to the weakened state of C'Thun`
`15:47.35`	`Kebinusan`	`extra messages eh`
`15:47.38`	`[Ammo]`	`yarr`
`15:47.58`	`[Ammo]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:47.58`	`[Ammo]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:48.09`	`Kebinusan`	`good call`
`15:48.38`	`Kebinusan`	`have you seen this mod called battlehistory?`
`15:49.36`	`[Ammo]`	`negative`
`15:49.49`	`Kebinusan`	`http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4288-1-battlehistory.html`
`15:49.55`	`Kebinusan`	`its pretty interesting`
`15:50.29`	`Kebinusan`	`it stores data from a cast monitor mod called forecast to build a picture of what spells were cast during a fight and wen`
`15:50.31`	`Kebinusan`	`*when`
`15:50.49`	`Kebinusan`	`you can also monitor spells cast on a person and their health over time`
`15:51.08`	`Wobin`	`Industrial: I think the point flew past him =P`
`15:51.22`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`15:51.45`	`[Ammo]`	`ugh kebinusan`
`15:51.48`	`[Ammo]`	`nifty mod`
`15:51.55`	`[Ammo]`	`but I think it might be a bit intense on the datastorage :)`
`15:52.05`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah very intense on data storage`
`15:52.07`	`MoonWolf`	`a bit.`
`15:52.23`	`MoonWolf`	`you only use this during one period then analyze then disable.`
`15:52.37`	`MoonWolf`	`and only one a guildmate with some memory and pc power to spare.`
`15:52.47`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm`
`15:53.17`	`[Ammo]`	`requires forecast as well meh`
`15:53.22`	`[Ammo]`	`interesting mod though`
`15:53.26`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah, Im looking into that`
`15:53.34`	`Kebinusan`	`cause forecast requires ctra simply for the spell detection`
`15:53.45`	`[Ammo]`	`and probably everyone needs forecast installed`
`15:53.56`	`Kebinusan`	`again true`
`15:53.57`	`[Ammo]`	`otherwise you won't have complete data for the fight`
`15:54.00`	`Kebinusan`	`awesome concept though`
`15:54.16`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah indeed`
`15:54.49`	`[Ammo]`	`we're having a bit of a problem with 2 of our paladins`
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`15:54.53`	`[Ammo]`	`who perform at 20% of the others`
`15:54.57`	`Wobin`	`hehe`
`15:55.00`	`Wobin`	`what would be cool?`
`15:55.01`	`[Ammo]`	`this might give us a good insight in what they're doing wrong`
`15:55.09`	`Wobin`	`Is if you could get coords within an instance`
`15:55.16`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah, well you can't :p`
`15:55.17`	`Wobin`	`Then you could map out the spellcasts on a map`
`15:55.21`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`15:55.27`	`Wobin`	`And see where stuff was happening =)`
`15:55.28`	`[Ammo]`	`instareplay!`
`15:55.38`	`Kebinusan`	`hahah`
`15:55.44`	`Wobin`	`Like "omg, they cast 30 Greater heals here!"`
`15:55.45`	`Kebinusan`	`thats awesome`
`15:55.59`	`[Ammo]`	`would work on outdoor bosses :)`
`15:56.09`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm`
`15:56.12`	`Wobin`	`hehe`
`15:56.16`	`[Ammo]`	`a forecast kinda mod isn't hard to make`
`15:56.21`	`[Ammo]`	`or forecast 'compatible' mod :)`
`15:56.25`	`Kebinusan`	`there is one`
`15:56.30`	`Kebinusan`	`its called healwatch or something`
`15:56.33`	`Kebinusan`	`its ace'd`
`15:56.39`	`[Ammo]`	`meh`
`15:56.43`	`[Ammo]`	`it only watches heals :p`
`15:56.51`	`Kebinusan`	`clearly it needs a name change`
`15:57.15`	`Kebinusan`	`actually the inaptly named healsync is a library that you could use`
`15:57.45`	`Kebinusan`	`err inept`
`15:58.03`	`Wobin`	`actually wH is still working on that`
`15:58.09`	`Wobin`	`inept?`
`15:58.21`	`Kebinusan`	`just the name`
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`15:58.33`	`Kebinusan`	`cause it could be used to send sync data on any spellcast not jsut heals :-)`
`15:59.02`	`Wobin`	`unaptly, perhaps then`
`15:59.14`	`Wobin`	`inept implies a bit of an insult =P`
`15:59.19`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah my bad`
`15:59.25`	`Kebinusan`	`more like a boy named sue`
`15:59.38`	`Kebinusan`	`or something`
`15:59.53`	`Wobin`	`heheh`
`16:00.43`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm`
`16:00.52`	`[Ammo]`	`I'll just write my own oRA_ForeCast or something :p`
`16:01.06`	`[Ammo]`	`so people with CTRA can install forecast, and those with oRA install the ora module`
`16:01.47`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah someone posted a hack on the comments about getting forecast to work with ora`
`16:01.59`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`16:02.05`	`[Ammo]`	`well battlehistory looks real useful to me`
`16:02.10`	`[Ammo]`	`gives me the stick I need :)`
`16:03.18`	`[Ammo]`	`time to get home though`
`16:03.21`	`[Ammo]`	`later`
`16:03.22`	`[Ammo]`	`~`
`16:03.23`	`Kebinusan`	`hehe later`
`16:03.49`	`Kebinusan`	`but I dont want them seeing that I shadowbolted before 3 sunders -_-`
`16:07.53`	`Wobin`	`Ratbert_CP: Disney?`
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`16:11.53`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Yeah. So? you wanna piece of me? You lookin' at me?`
`16:12.03`	`Wobin`	`You corrupting the young'uns again?`
`16:12.46`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Not me! I'm Enterprise IT. No interaction with guests at all. Not even indirectly (OK, maybe when we crash the reservations systems, but that's it!)`
`16:12.55`	`Wobin`	`hehe`
`16:14.15`	`Ratbert_CP`	`And now, I don't even do that. Moved out of operations and into "Enterprise Architecture"`
`16:14.55`	`Ratbert_CP`	`i.e., I get paid insane amounts of money to play WoW, code Lua and occasionally hold court on topics very few other people in the company understand or care about...`
`16:15.32`	`Wobin`	`Can I send you a resume? =)`
`16:18.30`	`Ratbert_CP`	`No. We're not hiring. Did I mention that the people who know and care the least about what we do are our middle-management?`
`16:22.37`	`Codayus`	`Oh wow.`
`16:22.43`	`Codayus`	`Enterprisy stuff is so cool.`
`16:23.08`	`Codayus`	`I want your job.`
`16:23.57`	`Kebinusan`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-dungeons&t=565883&p=1&tmp=1#post565883 hmm 1.11 tomorrow mayhaps?`
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`16:26.47`	`Ratbert_CP`	`It's kinda fun when I realize that I'm one of four guys designing Disney's Enterprise Identity Management infrastructure.`
`16:28.59`	`Wobin`	`rofl`
`16:29.01`	`Wobin`	`"I agree, just wanted to help out on a great looking addon "`
`16:29.15`	`Codayus`	`That was pretty funny.`
`16:30.07`	`Codayus`	`Cool addon though, Wobin.`
`16:30.59`	`Wobin`	`Neronix: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1561.msg26945/topicseen.html#msg26945`
`16:31.04`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Wobin: Are you still having that AceHook error with BagBoy? Someone else is reporting that on the BagBoy portal...`
`16:31.10`	`Wobin`	`yeah`
`16:31.17`	`Wobin`	`I haven't looked too closely into it`
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`16:32.03`	`Wobin`	`and bah. Why does the space finding suddenly work reliably when I put in debug statements?`
`16:34.24`	`Wobin`	`Codayus: Irt the sticky, the sticky will only seemingly reliably sticky onto the 'active' frame you're currently dragging`
`16:34.30`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Damn... Am I using a bad version of Ace? Are you? Is AceHook an embedable lib yet? Will Suzie keep the mysterious box she found under Lucas' bed? When will Valentin tell Katja that he is her long lost half-brother? Will she call off the wedding? When will this caffine-deprive rodent STFU?`
`16:34.40`	`Wobin`	`(and wasn't that a horrible abuse of verbifying?)`
`16:34.59`	`Codayus`	`Wobin: No comment. :-)`
`16:35.09`	`Wobin`	`hehe`
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`16:36.51`	`Wobin`	`What are you using AceHook for, Rat?`
`16:37.44`	`Wobin`	`Cause I've never had to declare it for using ace's hooking 'self:Hook' system`
`16:37.54`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Hooking the merchant sell event, so users get a confirmation pop-up if they try to sell a "protected" item.`
`16:38.24`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Oh... So AceHook is auto-embedded in all Ace addons?`
`16:39.50`	`Wobin`	`I haven't checked in the merchant sell yet`
`16:39.57`	`Wobin`	`but it loads alright if I comment out the AceHook call`
`16:40.02`	`Neronix`	`If Ace is present, you can use AceHook`
`16:40.12`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Technically, I hook UseContainerItem when the merchant window is opened, and unhook it when the window closes.`
`16:40.17`	`Neronix`	`the embeddableness is for people who want to use AceHooks but not have a dependency`
`16:40.23`	`SilverShadow`	`is "Tem" around by anychance?`
`16:40.35`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Cool. Thanks.`
`16:40.53`	`Neronix`	`np`
`16:41.12`	`Wobin`	`it works fine, it seems`
`16:43.48`	`SilverShadow`	`Hey Wobin, gotta question for you.`
`16:44.05`	`Wobin`	`sure`
`16:44.12`	`Tem`	`SilverShadow, I am`
`16:44.52`	`SilverShadow`	`Ahh.. good. Tem.. would you mind if we used that very wonderful addon catagory listing over at curse?`
`16:44.53`	`Tem`	`but my ghost session just failed so I'll be semi-afk while I restart 25 clients`
`16:45.00`	`SilverShadow`	`ouch`
`16:45.12`	`Tem`	`addon catagory listing?`
`16:45.22`	`SilverShadow`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1350.0.html`
`16:45.23`	`Tem`	`oh oh, the one I made to use in Ace2?`
`16:45.32`	`Tem`	`go for it`
`16:45.52`	`SilverShadow`	`thanks. When I get done I'll put up an article crediting you and the Ace crew forit's creation.`
`16:46.11`	`Tem`	`cool`
`16:46.20`	`Tem`	`this channel helped a lot with the creation`
`16:46.38`	`Tem`	`then people who weren't here for that part posted in the thread`
`16:46.46`	`SilverShadow`	`I was reading the thread. It's realy awesome.`
`16:48.31`	`Tem`	`something WoWI does that I'm not sure if you guys do or not that you might want to think about`
`16:48.51`	`Tem`	`directly connecting addons with their dependencies`
`16:49.35`	`SilverShadow`	`I think we might be looking into it. but our system is a bit odd. However even more major changes are in the works so I'll toss the idea to the coders. It's a pretty good one.`
`16:49.38`	`Tem`	`(this is mostly for things like FuBar so that it's easy to find plugins for it)`
`16:50.35`	`SilverShadow`	`yea. though.. if my big idea goes through, it will be easy to do`
`16:51.03`	`Wobin`	`SilverShadow: You wanted to ask me something?`
`16:51.59`	`SilverShadow`	`Sorry wobin, that's what i wanted to ask. wasn't sure if Tem was around. ^_^`
`16:52.10`	`Wobin`	`ah =)`
`16:53.37`	`Tem`	`oh piss`
`16:53.45`	`Tem`	`real good chance on 1.11 tomorrow`
`16:53.52`	`Tem`	`I'm so not ready`
`16:53.57`	`Shyva`	`same`
`16:54.02`	`Shyva`	`I need 5k more AD rep :(`
`16:54.08`	`[Ammo]`	`I don't think it'll come`
`16:54.10`	`Tem`	`I'm not worried about AD rep`
`16:54.15`	`[Ammo]`	`they didn't shut down the test servers yet`
`16:54.25`	`[Ammo]`	`they're usually down for a week before next patch`
`16:54.27`	`Tem`	`[Ammo], http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-dungeons/565883.htm`
`16:54.27`	`Kebinusan`	`yea`
`16:54.32`	`Wobin`	`hm, I wonder if anything of mine will break`
`16:54.37`	`Kebinusan`	`tigole kinda pust a rather blatant hint`
`16:54.42`	`Kebinusan`	`*posted`
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`16:54.57`	`Tem`	`"No promises as to when the patch is going live, but if I were you, I'd start working on that Argent Dawn rep by tomorrow -- either that or pillage the guild bank while the pillaging is good. "`
`16:55.11`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`16:55.13`	`Tem`	`I'm not worried about AD rep though`
`16:55.26`	`[Ammo]`	`I'm revered with mats for attunement`
`16:55.29`	`Kebinusan`	`<-- exalted for way way too long`
`16:55.40`	`Tem`	`if you get rep at revered for killing the invasion mobs, I'll be fine`
`16:55.56`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`16:55.59`	`[Ammo]`	`then I'll be fine as well :)`
`16:56.04`	`[Ammo]`	`take a mage, and AOE AOE AOE`
`16:56.10`	`Tem`	`I know you get them through Honored`
`16:56.15`	`Tem`	`but I'm not sure on Revered`
`16:56.51`	`Tem`	`<- mage`
`16:56.59`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`16:57.11`	`Tem`	`I assume you guys have seen the Faxmonkey vid of him killing 93 of those mobs at once`
`16:57.24`	`Shyva`	`I'm gonna AoE grind with a mage friend... /me is holy priest.. -_-`
`16:57.37`	`MoonWolf`	`i did`
`16:57.40`	`MoonWolf`	`it was pretty sick`
`16:57.41`	`Shyva`	`Yeah, cool movie that is Tem!`
`16:57.46`	`MoonWolf`	`what levels are those mobs again ?`
`16:57.50`	`Tem`	`60`
`16:57.52`	`Shyva`	`60`
`16:57.54`	`Tem`	`I tried it on the PTR`
`16:57.55`	`Kebinusan`	`the real question on my mind is how many of my mods will break tomorrow`
`16:58.05`	`Tem`	`It wasn't that hard`
`16:58.09`	`MoonWolf`	`the patch is coming tommorow for real ?`
`16:58.11`	`Tem`	`but it's easy to die if you screw up`
`16:58.13`	`Tem`	`"No promises as to when the patch is going live, but if I were you, I'd start working on that Argent Dawn rep by tomorrow -- either that or pillage the guild bank while the pillaging is good. "`
`16:58.55`	`Kebinusan`	`looks like we better get a naxx tree in bigwigs goin soon`
`16:59.02`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`16:59.02`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`16:59.07`	`MoonWolf`	`kk`
`16:59.14`	`[Ammo]`	`Naxxramas rather, Naxx is so dull :p`
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`16:59.32`	`[Ammo]`	`Fryguy did some preliminary work on Naxx mods`
`16:59.35`	`Wobin`	`hehe`
`16:59.37`	`[Ammo]`	`it's in his branch somewhere`
`16:59.44`	`Wobin`	`how many _'s can one Galka take? =P`
`17:00.02`	`MoonWolf`	`the question should be`
`17:00.10`	`MoonWolf`	`how much ___ does one galka have.`
`17:00.44`	`[Ammo]`	`doesn't a galka have ==== instead of ___ like big fat instead of tiny`
`17:01.56`	`MoonWolf`	`lol`
`17:02.18`	`MoonWolf`	`Ace: if it doesnt have sexual inuendo, well get it some!`
`17:05.42`	`CIA-18`	`03phyber * r2971 10AceXPBar/AceXPBar.lua:`
`17:05.42`	`CIA-18`	`AceXPBar:`
`17:05.42`	`CIA-18`	`- Moved 'local standings' and 'local repcolours' to self.standings and self.repcolours. They are now created in the Initialize() function.`
`17:06.14`	`Kebinusan`	`~cthun`
`17:06.26`	`Kebinusan`	`I fail at making the bot work`
`17:06.35`	`MoonWolf`	`~C'thun`
`17:06.36`	`purl`	`* Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - 10~ sec! *`
`17:07.04`	`[Ammo]`	`it's all in the syntax`
`17:07.15`	`phyber`	`~moredots`
`17:07.17`	`purl`	`more dots, more dots, throw more dots, okay, stop dots!`
`17:08.05`	`Kebinusan`	`heh we have aguildmate that uses a soundboard of that during raids from time to time`
`17:08.18`	`[Ammo]`	`there's an swf soundboard indeed`
`17:09.42`	`Kebinusan`	`Although, I think the best laugh was when he played Yakety Sax during the clear to fankriss`
`17:11.45`	`Wobin`	`hehe one of my friends raiding TS servers often has a completely random stranger log on to play a single Iron Maiden song`
`17:12.03`	`Kebinusan`	`heh`
`17:13.46`	`Mikma`	`what's the difference between "gray" and "grey"? Other is used in GB and other in US?`
`17:14.28`	`Wobin`	`yeah`
`17:14.33`	`MoonWolf`	`same difference as colour and color.`
`17:14.43`	`Wobin`	`~dict grey`
`17:14.43`	`Mikma`	`which one is used in US?`
`17:14.56`	`Wobin`	`~dict gray`
`17:15.03`	`Wobin`	`rofl`
`17:15.09`	`Wobin`	`~wiki grey`
`17:15.29`	`Wobin`	`alas`
`17:15.39`	`Mikma`	`grey = us?`
`17:16.19`	`Wobin`	`... Y'know.. I'm not exactly sure...`
`17:16.44`	`Wobin`	`grey is UK`
`17:16.46`	`Mikma`	`me neither, not that it matters but i was only wondering about it :D`
`17:16.48`	`Wobin`	`gray is US`
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`17:17.03`	`Wobin`	`at least according to Firefox's dictionary`
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`17:20.31`	`MoonWolf`	`Its growing!`
`17:20.39`	`Wobin`	`And the cycle begins anew`
`17:20.40`	`Mikma`	`well.. i don't know how to fix the interesting UIScale and RestorePosition, so i just made the default-layout of Bartender for scale 1.0 :)`
`17:21.00`	`Wobin`	`GetEffectiveScale(), Mikma?`
`17:21.53`	`Mikma`	`Wobin: have you ever tried it in action? :)`
`17:22.07`	`Wobin`	`Not sure exactly what you're after`
`17:22.10`	`Mikma`	`Wobin: get the Bartender 1.0 beta from svn and try it with 0.90 scale`
`17:22.18`	`Mikma`	`then change the scale to ie. 0.64 or 1.0`
`17:22.24`	`Mikma`	`you'll see what happens :)`
`17:22.41`	`Mikma`	`just remember to put the 0.90 scale before enabling Bartender`
`17:26.27`	`Kebinusan`	`TitanRaidSummon needs a fubar port`
`17:26.32`	`Kebinusan`	`*cry`
`17:27.01`	`Kebinusan`	`are there any good examples on porting titan plugins to fubar`
`17:27.08`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`17:27.25`	`Wobin`	`Is there any way to determine distance from a target across zones?`
`17:27.42`	`Kebinusan`	`I think so cause raidsummon uses somethign like that`
`17:27.43`	`Wobin`	`or even your distance from a zone`
`17:27.50`	`Kebinusan`	`in the latest beta`
`17:28.07`	`Kebinusan`	`may not be actual distance I havent looked`
`17:31.34`	`Kebinusan`	`nah looking at it now it doesnt check actual distance, just if someone is in the same zone as you`
`17:44.01`	`Neronix`	`~Whelps`
`17:44.13`	`CIA-18`	`03shyva * r2972 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: BigWigs: Fixed Metro typos`
`17:44.27`	`Neronix`	`~whelps is <reply>Whelps, LEFT SIDE!! Even side, MANY WHELPS!! NOW HANDLE IT!!`
`17:44.29`	`purl`	`Neronix: okay`
`17:44.30`	`Neronix`	`for completeness :P`
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`17:45.10`	`Wobin`	`hehe`
`17:54.59`	`phyber`	`FuBar needs a "never ever move my stuff about without me telling you to" option.`
`17:55.14`	`phyber`	`reordering my stuff on reloadui isn't cool >_<`
`17:55.33`	`kergoth`	`morning`
`17:55.56`	`Cairenn`	`unless something goes wrong between now and then, patch 1.11 tomorrow`
`17:55.57`	`phyber`	`morning :)`
`17:56.05`	`phyber`	`Cairenn: nice :)`
`17:56.06`	`kergoth`	`hooray`
`17:56.10`	`MoonWolf`	`yay`
`17:56.16`	`MoonWolf`	`that means 1.12 is going to come faster`
`17:56.31`	`Cairenn`	`(just repeating myself over here for those that aren't in the lounge)`
`17:56.32`	`MoonWolf`	`the tree that got buffed the most ker.`
`17:57.18`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`17:57.36`	`Kebinusan`	`Kind of expected either 1.11 or a mini patch tomorrow because of the summer solstice event`
`17:57.45`	`kergoth`	`Book: If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theatre.`
`17:57.55`	`MoonWolf`	`there is an event for solstice ?`
`17:57.57`	`Kebinusan`	`best thing for me is 1.11 means we drop MC and Onyxia from the raid schedule`
`17:58.01`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah`
`17:58.10`	`Kebinusan`	`summer festival or something`
`17:58.12`	`MoonWolf`	`firefly ?`
`17:58.49`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`17:58.59`	`MoonWolf`	`its not hard to remember all the qoutes`
`17:59.10`	`MoonWolf`	`there is to little episodes to forget.`
`18:01.14`	`Wobin`	`Firefly =)`
`18:03.50`	`kergoth`	`MoonWolf: yeah :(`
`18:04.33`	`MoonWolf`	`i want book as my preacher.`
`18:04.47`	`MoonWolf`	`all the idiots would leave the church.`
`18:05.24`	`CIA-18`	`03thiana * r2973 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (Core.lua FuBar_tcgTradeskills.toc):`
`18:05.24`	`CIA-18`	`FuBar_tcgTradeskills:`
`18:05.24`	`CIA-18`	`* Fixed path seperator in toc`
`18:05.24`	`CIA-18`	`* Added Poisons/Pick Lock`
`18:05.24`	`CIA-18`	`* Bumped version to 1.02`
`18:05.28`	`kergoth`	`11:09 < sean_k> +coffee is too darn hard to make until you've had some coffee`
`18:06.04`	`Tem`	`ckknight_, what was this mess I heard from you recently about fubar plugins existing without fubar?`
`18:07.29`	`CIA-18`	`03phyber * r2974 10AceXPBar/ (AceXPBar.lua ChangeLog.txt):`
`18:07.29`	`CIA-18`	`AceXPBar:`
`18:07.29`	`CIA-18`	`- Colours are now stored in tables rather than one colour per saved var, eg. resting = { r=1, g=1, b=1 }.`
`18:07.29`	`CIA-18`	`-- This reduces the amount of times SetOpt and GetOpt need to be called at various places.`
`18:07.29`	`CIA-18`	`- Default "remaining" colour has been changed to red instead of grey.`
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`18:13.11`	`Mikma`	`cool, database checking and reseting works now too`
`18:16.53`	`Wobin`	`Tem: If you use the FubarPlugin1.2 you can use it without fubar`
`18:17.05`	`Wobin`	`It just defaults to a minimap button`
`18:17.14`	`Wobin`	`Have a lookat MrPlowFu`
`18:17.41`	`Tem`	`how much do I have in fuBarPlugin1.2?`
`18:17.52`	`Tem`	`can I let it create a tiny panel just for my plugin?`
`18:18.20`	`Wobin`	`sure`
`18:18.26`	`Wobin`	`well.. you can detach the tooltip`
`18:18.39`	`Wobin`	`and by tooltip I mean tablet`
`18:19.03`	`Mikma`	`i'm trying new ways to swap actionbars`
`18:19.56`	`Tem`	`I have an idea for something that may or may not fail miserably`
`18:20.33`	`Tem`	`I'd like to reuse the panel class's drag-n-drop code`
`18:20.42`	`Tem`	`ugh`
`18:20.46`	`Tem`	`my ghost session just finished`
`18:27.31`	`Mikma`	`anyone remembers what are the little numbers called on actionbuttons?`
`18:27.35`	`Mikma`	`and how to hide them?`
`18:28.54`	`Tem`	`theres an option`
`18:28.58`	`Tem`	`isn't there?`
`18:28.59`	`Industrial`	`what numbers :>`
`18:29.30`	`Mikma`	`Industrial: keybinds`
`18:29.34`	`Thrae`	`Tem, is your latest AceGUI up on the SVN, or are you hogging it to yourself until you get it far enough along?`
`18:29.46`	`Tem`	`I'm hogging it`
`18:29.50`	`Mikma`	`i'm having trouble on the actionbarswapping, for some reason the damn keybindings are being shown, grr`
`18:29.50`	`Industrial`	`what does acegui do,how does it work`
`18:29.52`	`hyperChipmunk`	`=\`
`18:30.04`	`hyperChipmunk`	`makes it easy to make guis`
`18:30.06`	`Tem`	`because I'm making API changes atm`
`18:30.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`see bulkmail`
`18:30.16`	`Tem`	`and fun internal structure changes`
`18:30.34`	`Tem`	`and by 'fun' I mean 'I have a headache'`
`18:30.56`	`Thrae`	`You wouldn't happen to have made the dynamic code for CharacterFrameTab, have you?`
`18:31.17`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, well you've gotten like two extra weeks cuz bliz is slow`
`18:31.25`	`hyperChipmunk`	`so if it's not ready by 1.11, you sucks!`
`18:31.33`	`Tem`	`no`
`18:31.39`	`Tem`	`1.11 is going live tomorrow`
`18:31.45`	`Mikma`	`oh?`
`18:31.48`	`Tem`	`(barring anything crazy at blizz HQ)`
`18:31.55`	`Tem`	`"No promises as to when the patch is going live, but if I were you, I'd start working on that Argent Dawn rep by tomorrow -- either that or pillage the guild bank while the pillaging is good."`
`18:32.15`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, but people were expecting it two weeks ago`
`18:32.25`	`Tem`	`I wasn't`
`18:32.30`	`Tem`	`I knew better`
`18:32.38`	`kergoth`	`whats changing wrt AD?`
`18:32.39`	`hyperChipmunk`	`neither was I, but that doesn't change your excuse!`
`18:32.48`	`hyperChipmunk`	`you need AD faction to get into Nax`
`18:32.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`plus lots of new rewards`
`18:33.05`	`Tem`	`not really new rewards`
`18:33.14`	`Codayus`	`Basically a new Field Duty timesink.`
`18:33.15`	`Tem`	`theres a blue set that makes you a god vs undead`
`18:33.25`	`Tem`	`but that's about it`
`18:33.29`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and 18-slot bag`
`18:33.30`	`hyperChipmunk`	`woo`
`18:33.31`	`Codayus`	`Only, with the AD instead of CC. Yay?`
`18:33.34`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and other stuff`
`18:33.39`	`Tem`	`I hate CC`
`18:33.40`	`hyperChipmunk`	`trinkets`
`18:33.43`	`Codayus`	`The "ZHC in reverse" trinket looks interesting.`
`18:33.48`	`Tem`	`no thanks`
`18:34.06`	`Codayus`	`The "1% crit, no DPS, no stats" gun looks...uh...special. Good for warriors/rogues who can't get Blastershot...I...gues....`
`18:34.27`	`Tem`	`that type of trinket is only really useful in BGs to frontload some dps`
`18:34.28`	`Codayus`	`But mostly, they're just like all the other "casual epics". Blues painted purple. :-D`
`18:34.38`	`Tem`	`pretty much, yeah`
`18:35.09`	`Codayus`	`Still, I'm looking forward to the patch for the ZG changes if nothing else.`
`18:35.15`	`Tem`	`aye, me too`
`18:35.21`	`Tem`	`I can't wait to finally get a ZG enchant`
`18:35.40`	`Codayus`	`I have 1 ZG enchant...ick. Neew a 2nd, and another libram of focus would be teh suck.`
`18:35.41`	`Industrial`	`How do i mark threads as NOT INTERESTING so i dont see if there are new posts there`
`18:36.02`	`Industrial`	`i hate having to mark threads read every 10 minutes because of aceheal ora squisie etc`
`18:36.30`	`Codayus`	`Plus I need another 15k rep to hit exalted or so, so anything that lures guildies into ZG is good by me.`
`18:36.40`	`Industrial`	`Mikma: whats up with the eonar login server`
`18:36.44`	`Tem`	`we do a weekly ZG run on fridays`
`18:37.12`	`Codayus`	`We do a weekly ZG run, but attendance is dropping.`
`18:37.12`	`Tem`	`but I don't usually go because I don't get along with the officer that runs it`
`18:37.12`	`Codayus`	`Doh`
`18:37.12`	`Mikma`	`Industrial: it's _SLOW_ as hell, just wait`
`18:37.13`	`Industrial`	`k`
`18:37.18`	`Mikma`	`i had to wait for 5mins to get in after login`
`18:37.33`	`Tem`	`but the ones I have been on were sweet`
`18:37.40`	`Tem`	`we've got the place down to a 2 hour clear`
`18:37.45`	`Industrial`	`k Mikma`
`18:44.40`	`Thrae`	`Hmmm. How can I do f:SetScript("OnClick", self:FrameTabHandler() )? Is there a way to set the function pointer manually?`
`18:45.54`	`kergoth`	`f:SetScript("OnClick", function() self:FrameTabHandler() end) or whatever.`
`18:46.28`	`Thrae`	`That's evil, though.`
`18:46.32`	`kergoth`	`hm?`
`18:46.36`	`kergoth`	`not particularly, no`
`18:47.46`	`Thrae`	`Well, you'd hope there'd be a way other then making a function of a function.`
`18:47.59`	`kergoth`	`..`
`18:48.09`	`kergoth`	`how else do you expect self to get passed? magic?`
`18:48.55`	`Thrae`	`I was hoping I could just do f.OnClick = self:FrameTabHandler ... but now that I think about it, that wouldn't give the correct arguments.`
`18:49.11`	`kergoth`	`you can do that just fine, but self wont be passed.`
`18:50.09`	`Thrae`	`Well, that's true, but it's not needed in this function. But anyway.`
`18:50.27`	`kergoth`	`right, then you're fine. f:SetScript("OnClick", self.FrameTabHandler)`
`18:50.53`	`Thrae`	`Yeah, but I also need to pass it an argument, so your solution is best.`
`18:51.02`	`kergoth`	`ahhh`
`18:51.33`	`kergoth`	`anyway, i dont see anything unpleasant about it. just taking advantage of one of the nicest things about lua and similar languages, the ability to create closures`
`18:54.46`	`Tain`	`Closures was one of the "bad things" of the week according to some people, for whatever reason.`
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`18:56.51`	`Wobin`	`I still don't really understand them`
`18:57.13`	`Wobin`	`What does lua define as a 'closure' and how does it make it better?`
`18:57.25`	`kergoth`	`read about closures on wikipedia.`
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`18:59.44`	`Wobin`	`bah, wikipedia =(`
`18:59.51`	`Wobin`	`so slow on anonymouse =(`
`19:00.02`	`Wobin`	`Anyone know of a similar webanonymyser?`
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`19:10.06`	`Neronix`	`Wobin: http://www.lua.org/pil/6.1.html`
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`19:34.22`	`Neronix`	`Bah, I can't totally destroy the environment :<`
`19:34.36`	`Neronix`	`doing _G = nil doesn't stop getfenv(0) from saving the day`
`19:37.22`	`CIA-18`	`03mikma * r2975 10Bartender/Bartender.lua:`
`19:37.22`	`CIA-18`	`Bartender: 1.0 Release.`
`19:37.22`	`CIA-18`	`* Default layout changed to UIScale 1.0.`
`19:37.22`	`CIA-18`	`* Bags and Microbuttons can be hided`
`19:37.22`	`CIA-18`	`* DataBase check added for future updates`
`19:37.48`	`Gngsk`	`mikma, hidden :)`
`19:38.10`	`Mikma`	`yeah that's what i thought but forgot to edit it later ;) watching a movie at the same time hehe`
`19:38.17`	`Gngsk`	`np`
`19:38.26`	`Gngsk`	`wasn't it you that asked about drinked yesterday?`
`19:38.33`	`Gngsk`	`had that stuck in my heaad for hours, lol`
`19:39.20`	`Mikma`	`yeah been very long time since i have been learning english in schools, can't remember words correctly :P`
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`19:39.46`	`Gngsk`	`I understand you just fine, only little details that don't really matter anyway :D`
`19:40.27`	`Mikma`	`well i've seen people in other channels who like to correct every word you either typo or spell incorrectly`
`19:40.35`	`ckknight`	`Neronix, local _G = getfenv(0) for k,v in pairs(_G) do _G[k] = nil end`
`19:41.14`	`Mikma`	`but, if there's still some stupid bugs left, please let me know :)`
`19:41.33`	`Mikma`	`i tried to test all i could but there may be some left`
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`19:43.12`	`Mikma`	`oh forgot to mention that i also made the slashcommands easier. one slash to rule them all!`
`19:45.16`	`Gngsk`	`good`
`19:45.18`	`Gngsk`	`one quest I have`
`19:45.26`	`Gngsk`	`why does installing bartender move the chat editbox?`
`19:45.54`	`Mikma`	`it's just for the default layout i myself use, chat in next to actionbars`
`19:46.07`	`Mikma`	`and if the editbox is under chat it's not visible then`
`19:46.17`	`Gngsk`	`ahh, I think that should be disabled by default!`
`19:46.31`	`Gngsk`	`or just have a different mod for it`
`19:46.43`	`Mikma`	`hmm. well i'll make it switchable`
`19:48.42`	`Industrial`	`Mikma: meh typos....`
`19:48.49`	`Industrial`	`~emulate Industrial`
`19:48.51`	`purl`	`Ogm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls!`
`19:49.10`	`Industrial`	`ooo wich reminds me`
`19:49.13`	`Industrial`	`pops open another can`
`19:49.28`	`Mikma`	`tpyos ruel teh wolrd`
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`19:51.04`	`Neronix`	`ckknight_: yay, that works!`
`19:51.13`	`ckknight_`	`what works?`
`19:51.25`	`Mikma`	`only problem is i don't know how to dock the chat under the chatbox :D`
`19:51.50`	`Neronix`	`local _G = getfenv(0) for k,v in pairs(_G) do _G[k] = nil end`
`19:52.06`	`Neronix`	`the interpreter can't even spit errors properly after that`
`19:53.01`	`ckknight_`	`yea`
`19:53.07`	`ckknight_`	`it'll mess things up pretty bad`
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`19:53.20`	`Thrae`	`That'll nil everything in the global namespace?`
`19:53.23`	`Neronix`	`Will need totry that ingame ;P`
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`19:53.30`	`ckknight_`	`yes, Thrae`
`19:53.55`	`Neronix`	`even better, tell the next tard who goes "PLZZZ GIEV SUMMEN" do run that >)`
`19:54.01`	`Thrae`	`That'll probably lock up your computer ;)`
`19:54.02`	`ckknight_`	`alternatively, Neronix, setfenv(0, {})`
`19:54.46`	`Neronix`	`Noted, thanks`
`20:02.51`	`ckknight`	`it won't lock up your computer`
`20:03.09`	`ckknight`	`it'll just make nothing appear to happen (since error is gone)`
`20:04.31`	kergoth`food	`http://david.navi.cx/blog/?p=99`
`20:07.26`	`ckknight`	`hey kergoth`
`20:09.01`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, despite what we said eariler, I ended up added interfaces to the OO model`
`20:09.44`	`kergoth`	`hehe. and the thousand dollar question, how large of a pain is it to use?`
`20:16.50`	`CIA-18`	`03mikma * r2976 10Bartender/Bartender.lua: Bartender: Ninja-update, ChatMod removed`
`20:18.19`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, not a pain`
`20:18.58`	`ckknight`	`local ISpeakable = Interface { Speak = "function" }`
`20:19.02`	`ckknight`	`that's about it`
`20:19.17`	`ckknight`	`also, there is interface inheritance`
`20:19.34`	`ckknight`	`I want to put in mixins that inherit from interfaces later today`
`20:21.29`	`CIA-18`	`03wobin * r2977 10PlowKing/ (5 files):`
`20:21.29`	`CIA-18`	`PlowKing - Changed a lot of code`
`20:21.29`	`CIA-18`	`- Will now only update a lot of information when the frame is shown, only marks sections as being dirty when changed when bags are hidden`
`20:21.29`	`CIA-18`	`- Auto wiping of database per version since we're in beta`
`20:21.29`	`CIA-18`	`- Hopefully fixes the empty space starting issue we were having.`
`20:28.13`	`CIA-18`	`03mikma * r2978 10Bartender/Bartender.toc: Bartender: .toc update, added Author and removed the beta-label`
`20:30.27`	`Mikma`	`yeah i finally figured the svn :D it will show only modified files and allows to commit them`
`20:31.03`	`Shyva`	`self.cmd:status("Announce " ..text, x, ACEG_MAP_ONOFF), if x = true it fails... why? :-s`
`20:31.42`	`Gngsk`	`who is tehpwnerer?`
`20:32.37`	`Shyva`	`the one who's gonna help me..`
`20:32.41`	`CIA-18`	`03wobin * r2979 10PlowKing/PlowKing.lua: PlowKing - Added a message to show deletion`
`20:33.11`	`Thrae`	`Toggle = fuction(self, var, chat) self.cmd:status(chat, self.db:toggle(self.profilePath, var), ACEG_MAP_ONOFF) end`
`20:33.29`	`Thrae`	`Works fine for me.`
`20:34.08`	`Thrae`	`Make sure you have ACEG_MAP_ONOFF declared somewhere.`
`20:34.19`	`Shyva`	`it works fine if c = false, but when x = true I get errors :-/`
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`20:34.51`	`Thrae`	`ace:RegisterGlobals({ version=1.02 ACEG_MAP_ONOFF = {[0]= ..., [1] = ...})`
`20:38.36`	`Shyva`	`still a error.. string expected, got boolean, but both true and flase are booleans, aren't they?`
`20:38.48`	`Shyva`	`aaaah, wait, n/m`
`20:38.52`	`Shyva`	`I'm stupid -_-`
`20:39.30`	`Mikma`	`heh :)`
`20:39.44`	`ckknight`	`that needs to fixed in Ace2`
`20:40.41`	`Shyva`	`bah, I'm not stupid, it still doesn't work -_-`
`20:40.54`	`Shyva`	`oh, I am :-S`
`20:41.05`	`Mikma`	`Gngsk: how's the new version working? :)`
`20:41.37`	`Shyva`	`d*mn, This is crazy... it just doesn't work :(`
`20:41.49`	`Mikma`	`Gngsk: Bartender has my experimental actionbar-swap code so i hope you are able to test that in different situations`
`20:43.04`	`kergoth`	`registerglobals was just a half assed version of the library stub / acelibrary code imo`
`20:45.21`	`Shyva`	`self.cmd:status("Announce " ..text, (x and TRUE or FALSE), ACEG_MAP_ONOFF), sucky work around, but it works`
`20:48.34`	`Wobin`	`night!`
`20:49.00`	`Wobin`	`ps, can't you use 'true' and 'false' instead?`
`20:49.19`	`Wobin`	`or is it an AceG limitation`
`20:49.24`	`Shyva`	`no... it gives errors then...`
`20:49.24`	`kergoth`	`neither`
`20:49.38`	`kergoth`	`well, ace defines TRUE and FALSE for a reason, heh`
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`20:49.46`	`Shyva`	`I don't know why it doesn't work.. but this way it works`
`20:49.46`	`Wobin`	`why's that?`
`20:50.02`	`Wobin`	`when there are perfectly good booleans =)`
`20:50.16`	`kergoth`	`because FALSE is nil, not false, so dosent take up ram and space in the savedvariables`
`20:50.26`	`Wobin`	`ahyeah`
`20:50.36`	`Wobin`	`anyway`
`20:50.36`	`Wobin`	`night`
`20:50.39`	`kergoth`	`night`
`20:50.42`	`MoonWolf`	`and TRUE is 1`
`20:50.50`	`MoonWolf`	`but i dont know how the new acedb handles it.`
`20:51.24`	`kergoth`	`the new acedb is just a profiles interface to normal tables. there's less "magic" involved`
`20:51.38`	`MoonWolf`	`im very happy about that`
`20:52.13`	`MoonWolf`	`being able to treat the db as regular tables and vars is a lot nicer.`
`20:52.42`	`MoonWolf`	`first time i tried getting settings to work in mendleev was hell.`
`20:52.54`	`MoonWolf`	`i would have a lot less hair if it wasnt to short to pull.`
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`21:07.55`	`ckknight`	`AceDB2 does not include FALSE and TRUE, since with a proper defaults system, they're unneeded`
`21:08.31`	`ckknight`	`if your system is to complicated to use defaults, I'm sure you can manually put in nil instead of false`
`21:09.17`	`MoonWolf`	`Good points.`
`21:09.57`	`ckknight`	`also, having both TRUE and true, FALSE and false is horribly confusing`
`21:10.14`	`ckknight`	`especially for newbies`
`21:11.52`	`ckknight`	`I was really talking about flipping settings and print statements with ACEG_MAP_ONOFF`
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`21:13.34`	`kergoth`	`i like using true and nil. its pretty rare to actualy need a false (though sometimes you do, to distinguish between a specific "off" state versus an "undefined" state)`
`21:14.10`	`ckknight`	`the new defaults system is pretty nice`
`21:14.30`	`ckknight`	`so that you can specify a default as false, true, or whatever`
`21:15.15`	`kergoth`	`i assume you made it along the lines we've discussed in the past?`
`21:15.16`	`ckknight`	`if your default is true, it'll save em all as either false or nil`
`21:15.40`	`ckknight`	`if it's false, then it'll save em all as either true or nil`
`21:16.10`	`kergoth`	`so it saves any deviations from default, as it should`
`21:17.17`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`21:17.30`	`ckknight`	`but if values are the same as default, it's all peachy`
`21:17.56`	`ckknight`	`I actually want to upgrade the defaults system to have defaults for arbitrary values`
`21:18.03`	`ckknight`	`e.g. { ["."] = true }`
`21:18.29`	`ckknight`	`so if you access self.db.char.thingy, if it's not set, it'll be true`
`21:18.35`	`ckknight`	`for example`
`21:18.40`	`Industrial`	`Anyone know about an XP bar that calculates stuff like 'kills to level' ?`
`21:18.47`	`Industrial`	`And doesnt look like shit`
`21:18.50`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`21:19.37`	`Tain`	`Nope! Hate that.`
`21:19.42`	`Industrial`	`I love it`
`21:19.44`	`Industrial`	`for grinding`
`21:19.58`	`ckknight`	`and I also want { ["."] = { value = 0 } }`
`21:19.59`	`Tain`	`I rarely grind`
`21:20.07`	`Industrial`	`and etsimated time to level too`
`21:20.23`	`ckknight`	`so that self.db.char.thingy.value == 0`
`21:20.29`	`Industrial`	`makes me plan my trips back to town better`
`21:20.31`	`Mikma`	`yo yo, off to play some ->`
`21:20.33`	`Tain`	`I very rarely kill anything unless it's for a quest. Or I'm on my way somewhere and they're in my way.`
`21:20.45`	`Industrial`	`Tain: :s`
`21:20.50`	`kergoth`	`Industrial: i love it too, /need/ to see my xp/hr rate`
`21:20.58`	`kergoth`	`i'm just using fubar_experience at the momentt hough`
`21:21.07`	`Industrial`	`k`
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`21:22.03`	`kergoth`	`my latest alt hit 40 last night. hurrah for not walking everywhere anymore`
`21:23.09`	`Mikma`	`still i have to wonder about the scale-issue`
`21:23.48`	`Mikma`	`why does not the GetEffectiveScale work like it should`
`21:24.30`	`ckknight`	`Ace2 tutorials, please read: http://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/AceLibrary/Examples/`
`21:24.37`	`Industrial`	`fanx`
`21:24.48`	`ckknight`	`they go in order`
`21:26.00`	`ckknight`	`all it is is code with lots of comments`
`21:26.12`	`ckknight`	`which, frankly, I think is the best way to teach it`
`21:26.35`	`mjc`	`my girlfriend just dinged her dwarf priest 40 ;P`
`21:26.36`	`Industrial`	`yes`
`21:26.39`	`Industrial`	`neat stuff`
`21:26.55`	`ckknight`	`so please read em all, tell me if something is confusing or seems wrong.`
`21:26.56`	`Mikma`	`mjc: grats her :)`
`21:26.59`	`mjc`	`hehe`
`21:27.05`	`mjc`	`let me drag her on IRC`
`21:27.19`	`mjc`	`hehe`
`21:27.28`	`Mikma`	`ol�!`
`21:27.29`	`ckknight`	`Alliance :-P`
`21:27.41`	`mjc`	`< not a horde fan`
`21:27.43`	`Mikma`	`what's wrong with alliance? :D`
`21:27.55`	`Mikma`	`i have had only 1 horde so far, Tuaren Shamanan`
`21:28.03`	`Industrial`	`im a horde nazi :<`
`21:28.26`	`Industrial`	`;D`
`21:28.30`	`Industrial`	`im lv 8-9 now btw`
`21:28.40`	`Mikma`	`well chances are 50/50 that i will make a blood elf, maybe...`
`21:28.49`	`Mikma`	`Industrial: good :) 20 levels to catch anymore`
`21:28.58`	`Industrial`	`:>`
`21:29.29`	`kergoth`	`mjc .. why does that nick look familiar`
`21:29.37`	`mjc`	`#oe`
`21:29.38`	`mjc`	`:P`
`21:29.41`	`kergoth`	`oh, right`
`21:29.42`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`21:29.46`	`mjc`	`and mjc@kernel.org`
`21:30.17`	`ckknight`	`kernel.org?`
`21:30.21`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: did you end up using the read only class pool to handle creation of the addon objects, or does it construct a new class at each AceAddon:new()?`
`21:30.30`	`mjc`	`yes, ckknight`
`21:30.31`	`ckknight`	`classpool.`
`21:30.38`	`kergoth`	`good good`
`21:30.40`	`ckknight`	`mjc, what've you done?`
`21:30.48`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, it's shiny, don't worry.`
`21:30.59`	`mjc`	`maintained a patch set a long time ago, also dicked around with various VM stuff`
`21:30.59`	`Tain`	`Damnit I'm about to ruin the money I saved on parts because I forgot to buy SATA cables and have to either wait another 2 days or run to the store and pay some godawful price locally.`
`21:31.11`	`mjc`	`occasional driver and whatnot`
`21:31.14`	`ckknight`	`AceAddon:new(...) converts to Classpool(AceAddon, ...):new()`
`21:31.18`	`Industrial`	`ckknight: How can you get to fire events in wow, I mean - I dont understand how callbacks work...`
`21:31.23`	`Industrial`	`ckknight: if its that anyway`
`21:31.28`	`kergoth`	`ah, syntactic sugar. thats cool`
`21:31.35`	`mjc`	`Industrial: very carefully`
`21:31.36`	`CIA-18`	`03phyber * r2980 10AceGCInfo/AceGCInfo.lua:`
`21:31.37`	`CIA-18`	`AceGCInfo:`
`21:31.37`	`CIA-18`	`- Shifted a few locals into self. Didn't test yet but it should be fine.`
`21:31.58`	`ckknight`	`Industrial, triggering events only work for other Ace2 addons`
`21:31.58`	`Tem`	`ckknight, is there any way I can reuse the panel class's drag-n-drop code?`
`21:32.02`	`Mikma`	`hey i was just wondering about the GetEffectiveScale.. if I have a frame called "foo", do i have to do "local bar = foo:GetName()" and bar:GetEffectiveScale() or go along with the foo:GetEffectiveScale()?`
`21:32.06`	`Industrial`	`I ran into it with the twisted python framework once but it dazzled me :P`
`21:32.11`	`ckknight`	`Tem, look at the code`
`21:32.31`	`ckknight`	`Industrial, self:TriggerEvent("UNIT_BUFF", "player")`
`21:32.35`	`kergoth`	`Mikma: uh. :GetName returns a string. how are you goign to access a GetEffectiveScale member of a string?`
`21:32.47`	`Tem`	`I really don't feel like coding that, but I need that kind of functionality`
`21:32.48`	`Industrial`	`ckknight: Yes, how can you get the other addon to wait for thise code to be called..`
`21:32.54`	`Industrial`	`ckknight: and THEN act`
`21:32.55`	`Tem`	`s/need/want/`
`21:33.05`	`Mikma`	`kergoth: thanks for clarifying the issue :)`
`21:33.12`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`21:33.13`	`ckknight`	`Industrial, I don't understand you question, honestly`
`21:33.44`	`Mikma`	`but, has anyone else ever noticed that the UIScale does change the values of positions?`
`21:33.44`	`kergoth`	`mjc: the other day someone came into #oe and asked about outlook express`
`21:33.49`	`kergoth`	`i knew itd happen one day :'(`
`21:33.50`	`mjc`	`hahaha`
`21:34.03`	`mjc`	`outlook express is discontinued :p`
`21:34.20`	`mjc`	`tell them to go back to DOS`
`21:35.22`	`kergoth`	`i shuddered, then made them read the channel topic :P`
`21:39.03`	`maia`	`mjc, my hunter will hit lvl10 in about 30 minutes...`
`21:39.16`	`mjc`	`maia: oh, sorry.. forgot all about it :x`
`21:39.17`	`Industrial`	`maia: what server?`
`21:39.25`	`Industrial`	`join me and mikma`
`21:39.25`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`21:39.26`	`maia`	`proudmoore, horde (US)`
`21:39.29`	`Industrial`	`ack`
`21:39.41`	`kergoth`	`mjc: so whatve you been up to lately? i havent touched oe in a year or something.`
`21:39.44`	`Industrial`	`I thought you were german :\| (dunno where i got that from)`
`21:39.44`	`maia`	`thats where my main toon is, so I was able to twink him with 5g.`
`21:40.11`	`mjc`	`kergoth: in and out of school and work as usual`
`21:40.28`	`maia`	`Industrial: actually I'm living in europe, but playing on US servers as I was part of the closed beta and didn't want to wait another 6 months for the EU release.`
`21:40.34`	`ckknight`	`maia, see the examples I made for Ace2`
`21:40.42`	`Industrial`	`maia: ah k`
`21:41.12`	`maia`	`ckknight: yeah, I've seen them in the SVN. planning to take a look at them tomorrow`
`21:41.19`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`21:41.22`	`Industrial`	`maia: next game ill be playing will be on US servers, simply for the fact that most of the community plays there and EU is full of non or bad english speaking people that seem to miss the point... alot..`
`21:41.46`	`Industrial`	`kergoth: pm :>`
`21:41.55`	`maia`	`and I knew the german localization will be terrible ;)`
`21:44.10`	`Industrial`	`yeah localisation ftl`
`21:44.45`	`Industrial`	`I puke on dutch windows, let alone my game in dutch bleh`
`21:44.47`	`Mikma`	`yh :P`
`21:45.11`	`Mikma`	`same goes with finnish windows... can't stand it`
`21:45.29`	`Industrial`	`I hate the computer magazines where they explain joe average how to tweak his windows xp in dutch GOD JEZUS <lots of bad words>`
`21:45.35`	`MoonWolf`	`DUTCH, the people who dont like localised stuff.`
`21:45.36`	`Mikma`	`i'd rather play with english games / os, by that way i can learn english too hehe`
`21:46.01`	`Industrial`	`MoonWolf: one word, PCM :P`
`21:46.14`	`MoonWolf`	`Nobody reads that`
`21:46.18`	`Mikma`	`haste_: btw you have the same problem with UIScale than I do`
`21:46.20`	`MoonWolf`	`go read Q't`
`21:46.30`	`Industrial`	`ill read slashdot and digg`
`21:47.03`	`Industrial`	`wow`
`21:47.51`	`Industrial`	`fubar+12 addons brought my fps down by 10fps`
`21:48.00`	`Industrial`	`and i have a Geforce 9700 GT`
`21:48.03`	`Industrial`	`>_o`
`21:48.17`	`kergoth`	`what amazed me most about running a ton of addons vs stock ui was the damn load times :)`
`21:48.27`	`kergoth`	`running 170 addons does hurt somewhat in that department`
`21:48.45`	`Mikma`	`who here has experience on feral-druids`
`21:49.37`	`Mikma`	`Do the "Chance on hit:" in weapons work in shapeshift`
`21:50.07`	`Neronix`	`I don't think so, but I know omen of clarity works`
`21:50.08`	`Industrial`	`I have 84 addons now`
`21:50.08`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`21:50.19`	`MoonWolf`	`HEHE`
`21:50.32`	`Elkano`	`MoonWolf, had time to take a look at my changes?`
`21:50.40`	`MoonWolf`	`Not yet`
`21:50.41`	`MoonWolf`	`but i will`
`21:52.00`	`mjc`	`Mikma: chance on hit doesn't work in shapeshift`
`21:52.17`	`mjc`	`chance on successful spell cast does`
`21:52.17`	`Mikma`	`mjc: thanks, that will eliminate some weapons then`
`21:52.49`	`MoonWolf`	`Chance on hit trinkits ?`
`21:52.53`	`MoonWolf`	`like mealstrom ?`
`21:53.15`	`mjc`	`I have maelstrom on my rogue, I don't know if it works in SS`
`21:53.18`	`mjc`	`try wowwiki.com ;p`
`21:53.58`	`Industrial`	`what does refreshmentsFu do?`
`21:54.16`	`mjc`	`shows you who is eating/drinking currently in your party`
`21:54.27`	`Industrial`	`k`
`21:54.59`	`Mikma`	`Industrial: how's the uf going? :)`
`21:55.53`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: found the reason for the issues i said?`
`21:55.55`	`Industrial`	`Mikma: Got 2 bars didnt work on it more then that`
`21:56.00`	`Industrial`	`Mikma: not working bars`
`21:56.00`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`21:57.36`	`Mikma`	`wtf andreas was here :D`
`21:57.58`	*** join/#wowace ag` (n=Andreas@0x57317a46.bynxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
`21:58.11`	`Mikma`	hi ag` !
`21:59.18`	`*** join/#wowace Galka__________ (n=Galka@pool-72-88-132-173.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)`
`21:59.24`	`MoonWolf`	`hehe`
`22:04.02`	`Tem`	`good lord`
`22:04.09`	`Tem`	`this guy has -17 karma`
`22:05.27`	`MoonWolf`	`who, industrial ?`
`22:07.30`	`Tem`	`DiabolicDestiny`
`22:08.27`	`Tem`	`er, sorry, that's DiabolicalDestiny`
`22:08.52`	`MoonWolf`	`kk`
`22:12.09`	`mjc`	`heh`
`22:13.16`	`mjc`	`Tem: on /. ?`
`22:13.29`	`Tem`	`wowace`
`22:13.33`	`mjc`	`ah`
`22:14.46`	`CIA-18`	`03neronix 07Neronix * r2981 10NanoStats2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): NanoStats2 (Pre-alpha) - Made modules load on demand to fix a design problem`
`22:18.46`	`Mikma`	`last time i checked i had 0/0, haven't posted much tho`
`22:20.36`	`mjc`	`hmm... since uplink is pretty much broken, is there anything similar to it that's aced?`
`22:26.03`	`Neronix`	`Woo, module system works better than before`
`22:26.18`	`kergoth`	`what's uplink?`
`22:30.14`	`ckknight`	`I have written my resume!`
`22:30.17`	`Tekkub`	`uplink is totally useless, come patch 1.112`
`22:30.24`	`Tekkub`	`*1.11`
`22:31.28`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: hooray`
`22:31.36`	`ckknight`	`apparently I'm supposed to get a job or something`
`22:31.41`	`ckknight`	`lousy society.`
`22:31.57`	`Tekkub`	`doesn't it suck?`
`22:32.12`	`ckknight`	`so I'm shooting for Gamestop, GNC, or Radio Shack`
`22:32.15`	`ckknight`	`at least for now`
`22:33.19`	`mjc`	`MoonWolf: have you shelved exoticmaterial?`
`22:33.21`	`Tekkub`	`heh`
`22:33.29`	`MoonWolf`	`not permanalty`
`22:33.31`	`Tekkub`	`yea, I'll never work programming for a job`
`22:33.41`	`Tekkub`	`hell I won't do computer work, period`
`22:33.46`	`ckknight`	`I have, Tekkub, for GE`
`22:34.09`	`MoonWolf`	`untill i get demovivated with my hunter`
`22:34.10`	`MoonWolf`	`untill that time, most coding is on a backburner.`
`22:34.10`	`ckknight`	`it was a SOAP dealy in C#`
`22:34.10`	`Tekkub`	`I've done ISP shit before, hated it`
`22:34.28`	`Tekkub`	`basically I like computers... making computer shit a job makes me not like computers, I don't like that`
`22:34.30`	`mjc`	`MoonWolf: what's needed to actually make it display things?`
`22:35.05`	`ckknight`	`well, I don't play games, so I think a job at Gamestop will be for me`
`22:35.15`	`ckknight`	`cause I won't grow to hate anything`
`22:35.18`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: eep, retail. good luck`
`22:35.21`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`22:35.24`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`22:35.25`	`MoonWolf`	`an hack into pt and following the data format layed out in the correct file.`
`22:35.26`	`ckknight`	`I know`
`22:35.33`	`ckknight`	`that's the only jobs around here, kergoth`
`22:35.34`	`Tekkub`	`yea, I should hit up the game stores myself... I'd prolly like it better than shitty quasi fastfood`
`22:36.03`	`ckknight`	`see, I tried to get into the porn industry earlier, but unemployment was too low, which means none of the actresses were of any quality`
`22:36.12`	`Tekkub`	`I don't mind retail much, I did wally for like 7 years`
`22:36.16`	`Tekkub`	`off and on`
`22:36.49`	`Tekkub`	`bear porn doesn't sell as well, so there's no real job opourtunities`
`22:36.58`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`22:36.59`	`Tekkub`	`plus I really don't have the sex drive for it`
`22:37.00`	`kergoth`	`being a door greeter sucks ass`
`22:37.05`	`kergoth`	`i'm /not/ cheerful`
`22:37.06`	`ckknight`	`see, I was sticking more to straight porn`
`22:37.08`	`MoonWolf`	`mjc and the hooking system needs to be updated to mendeleevs current system.`
`22:37.11`	`Tekkub`	`I can only bottom a few times a month at best`
`22:37.22`	`mjc`	`MoonWolf: hm`
`22:37.26`	`Tekkub`	`kerg: no greeters are`
`22:37.30`	`Tekkub`	`I worked Jewelry`
`22:37.34`	`ckknight`	`my production company didn't end up doing anything`
`22:37.46`	`ckknight`	`cause there was an abundance of actors, but no actresses`
`22:37.55`	`kergoth`	`Tekkub: well, they usually pretend to be. the people that really are naturally cheerful annoy the hell out o me`
`22:38.09`	`Tekkub`	`kerg, not in CO they weren't`
`22:38.14`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`22:38.17`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, that's why you find a retarded guy to be a greeter`
`22:38.21`	`ckknight`	`they're always happy`
`22:38.23`	`Tekkub`	`every greeter I saw in my 7 years was a VERY bitter old fart`
`22:38.35`	`mjc`	`MoonWolf: I'm currently browsing the eqdkp source to see how it calculates dkp`
`22:38.38`	`MoonWolf`	`id be a great greater, if you dont want any business.`
`22:38.41`	`Tekkub`	`oh yea, we did have that one special greeter, but I don't count that`
`22:38.47`	`Tekkub`	`that's like cheating`
`22:38.53`	`MoonWolf`	`mjc, mine does nothing of the sort`
`22:38.55`	`kergoth`	`nothing pisses me off more than a bouncy cheerful teenage girl. makes me want to stab something`
`22:38.56`	`MoonWolf`	`all predefined.`
`22:39.04`	`mjc`	`MoonWolf: I know, I'd like to have it able to =)`
`22:39.15`	`Tekkub`	`totally agree kergy`
`22:39.24`	`MoonWolf`	`hehe`
`22:39.34`	`Tekkub`	`I just growl and they sod off usually`
`22:39.46`	`MoonWolf`	`welcome to walma..... why are you holding that kni(spat spletter, gutting sounds)`
`22:40.40`	`kergoth`	`hahah`
`22:40.56`	`ckknight`	`yea, those "cheerful" girls`
`22:41.04`	`ckknight`	`I'd not want to stab them`
`22:41.10`	`ckknight`	`well, with a knife, that is`
`22:41.15`	`ckknight`	`maybe with something else\`
`22:41.31`	`ckknight`	`tip: only the pretty ones get raped`
`22:41.43`	`MoonWolf`	`i have this rusty old scythe here.`
`22:41.50`	`MoonWolf`	`although stabbing doesnt really work well.`
`22:42.16`	`Tekkub`	`define pretty tho ckk`
`22:42.17`	`kergoth`	`i have a gurkha kukri in my hotel room, from cold steel`
`22:42.24`	`kergoth`	`more of a slashing weapon than stabbing though`
`22:42.26`	`MoonWolf`	`Yeah`
`22:42.26`	`Tekkub`	`I'd so pounce any bear I saw, if he'd let me`
`22:43.03`	`kergoth`	`actually, i'd say a kukri is more of a slicing than slashing weapon, due to the blade shape. scythe is slashing, as would a machete(sp?)`
`22:43.08`	`ckknight`	`yea, but I'm straight. I like the kooky, immature girls that have emotional issues`
`22:43.19`	`Tekkub`	`you would`
`22:43.25`	`ckknight`	`yep.`
`22:43.28`	`MoonWolf`	`kergoth, you kukri would be great for gutting them.`
`22:43.33`	`MoonWolf`	`or eviscerating.`
`22:43.40`	`ckknight`	`haven't dated one yet not on antidepressants`
`22:43.41`	`Tekkub`	`I like the big chubby furry musky guys`
`22:43.47`	`kergoth`	`pfft, i like the tattooed, pierced punk chicks`
`22:43.58`	`ckknight`	`those ones are hot`
`22:44.03`	`Tekkub`	`puck kiddies are always great company`
`22:44.03`	`ckknight`	`and such.`
`22:44.06`	`kergoth`	`which is why its odd that i ended up with my current gf, she's not like that at all`
`22:44.10`	`Tekkub`	`punk/goth`
`22:44.20`	`Tekkub`	`especially if you're nocturnal like me`
`22:44.23`	`ckknight`	`goth girls are almost always bi.`
`22:44.43`	`Tekkub`	`so are goth guys, tho they won't always admit it :)`
`22:44.58`	`kergoth`	`i dont dress goth, but i love the music and the scene`
`22:45.26`	`MoonWolf`	`hey i am very straight, although that one guy over there looks kinda cute...`
`22:45.32`	`Neronix`	`I know plenty of suitable candidates, but I'm near-enough certain that I'm not one of theirs =/`
`22:45.35`	`ckknight`	`lol, MoonWolf`
`22:45.39`	`Tekkub`	`I don't like the music, I don't like "the scene" cause I'm antisocial in every respect, but on a personal level I like the gothers more than "normal" people`
`22:45.59`	`Tekkub`	`they're just more interesting and open and jaded`
`22:46.20`	`kergoth`	`i dont like how depression is .. well.. made more glamorous?`
`22:46.26`	`Neronix`	`If there's one kind I won't touch with an infinitely long stick, it's ned girls`
`22:46.35`	`Tekkub`	`yea I got to fuck with another teenage boy at work friday...`
`22:46.36`	`kergoth`	`as someone who suffers from clinical depression and will be on medication indefinately..`
`22:46.40`	`Neronix`	`(neds are scottish chavs btw)`
`22:46.48`	`Tekkub`	`"Oh Mtn Dew lowers your sperm count" ... "So?"`
`22:47.06`	`Tekkub`	`"So you want to have kids ever?" "will never happen"`
`22:47.10`	`MoonWolf`	`yeah, i got over depression soon after my parents separated.`
`22:47.19`	`Tekkub`	`"You never know...." "oh trust me, I know"`
`22:47.21`	`MoonWolf`	`ever since i am emotionally dulled.`
`22:47.40`	`Tekkub`	`"How can you be so sure?" "Cause my husband will never get me pregnant"`
`22:47.46`	`MoonWolf`	`HEHE`
`22:47.50`	`ckknight`	`hehe, Tekkub`
`22:47.57`	`MoonWolf`	`shock value ftw.`
`22:48.12`	`Tekkub`	`"Oh.... well there's adoption" "And what does taht have to do with me sperm count?" "oh... yea..."`
`22:48.36`	`Tekkub`	`then Cindy tell me today.... mind you she's a HS friend of my hubby's`
`22:49.18`	`Tekkub`	`I guess he said to her "You know David's married?" "yea..." "And it's a relative of Eva's" ... "yea..." And it's a GUY!" "yea..."`
`22:49.30`	`MoonWolf`	`.....`
`22:49.38`	`Tekkub`	`I told her she should have told him "Yea he like big chubby guys too... you know, like you..."`
`22:50.10`	`Tekkub`	`wed will be fun... another round of virgin questions....`
`22:50.25`	`MoonWolf`	`new hires ?`
`22:50.27`	`Tekkub`	`"Who's the women?" "doesn't that hurt?" "Ouch..."`
`22:50.29`	`mjc`	`MoonWolf: http://brutsoft.com/nurfed-dkp.doc`
`22:50.34`	`Tekkub`	`no, old slow teenagers`
`22:51.02`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`22:51.18`	`ckknight`	`"who's the woman?" - wtf?`
`22:51.38`	`Tekkub`	`"when did you know?" "And you've never been with a woman?" "you don't like boobies?" "oh I guess you're rigtht chubby guys do tend to have manboobs`
`22:51.42`	`MoonWolf`	`i like it when cetain gay's make a whole point out of tellimg you they are gay, and then shruggin and saying I couldnt care less.`
`22:52.16`	`Tekkub`	`nah moon, I like stringing em out and messing with em when they're so blatently oblivious`
`22:52.21`	`*** part/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`22:52.37`	`Tekkub`	`and I'm no different from them at work, I see a cute guy I point him out all the same`
`22:53.22`	`Tekkub`	`there was one today is scrubs... my boss was telling me to go to the chiropractic clinc he had embrodered on his shirt :P`
`22:53.29`	`MoonWolf`	`you point it out to the guy or to other gay's ?`
`22:53.43`	`Tekkub`	`usually to the women`
`22:53.57`	`Tekkub`	`the guys rarely do the "omg she's so hot" bullshit it's weird`
`22:54.25`	`Tekkub`	`but the women... hell they were taking pictures of the delivery guy next door's ass out the driveup window with camera phones`
`22:54.33`	`MoonWolf`	`lol`
`22:54.57`	`mjc`	`lol`
`22:55.00`	`Tekkub`	`and I now refer to cindy as "Not in the face"`
`22:55.12`	`mjc`	`rofl`
`22:55.14`	`Tekkub`	`we have two cindy managers, must distinguish them`
`22:55.16`	`mjc`	`Tekkub: nacho face`
`22:55.19`	`MoonWolf`	`what kind of a sexually overloaded place do you work at ?`
`22:55.32`	`mjc`	`MoonWolf: everywhere I've ever worked ahs been like that`
`22:55.35`	`Tekkub`	`there's good cindy, evil cindy, white cindy, black cindy, and notintheface cindy`
`22:55.50`	`ckknight`	`not in the face?`
`22:55.50`	`Tekkub`	`oh and white chocolate cindy`
`22:55.52`	`mjc`	`Tekkub: I much prefer 'nacho face' :D`
`22:55.54`	`ckknight`	`what's the reference?`
`22:55.57`	`Tekkub`	`because they're both white`
`22:56.07`	`Tekkub`	`she doesn't like it in the face ckk`
`22:56.11`	`Tekkub`	`"it's gross"`
`22:56.15`	`ckknight`	`lol.`
`22:56.26`	`MoonWolf`	`its only proteine`
`22:56.27`	`Tekkub`	`I told her it's fun, if you have someone that'll lick it off`
`22:56.45`	`Tekkub`	`she says "he can lick it off somewhere else, I don't care, that's gross"`
`22:57.08`	`Industrial`	`lol`
`22:57.12`	`Industrial`	`okayy`
`22:57.14`	`mjc`	`Tekkub: you'd lick it off?`
`22:57.14`	`Industrial`	`bedtime`
`22:57.15`	`Neronix`	`lol`
`22:57.18`	`MoonWolf`	`I Should get an internship at a non educational place`
`22:57.24`	`Tekkub`	`well not off cindy...`
`22:57.29`	`Industrial`	`mjc: here we go :L`
`22:57.29`	`Tekkub`	`but a bear, hell yes`
`22:57.29`	`MoonWolf`	`im missing out on awkward situations and weird discussions.`
`22:57.30`	`mjc`	`hahahahaha`
`22:57.44`	`Neronix`	`The job I'm looking at is at a small computer shop a friend did work experience at`
`22:57.44`	`Tekkub`	`yea moon, you are`
`22:57.54`	`Neronix`	`It'll suck :(`
`22:58.09`	`Tekkub`	`this store is like guild drama every day`
`22:58.20`	`Neronix`	`comparable to DIE?`
`22:58.20`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`22:58.28`	`Tekkub`	`hell a girl quit last week because of "too much drama" and she wasn't even involved in it`
`22:58.34`	`Neronix`	`lol`
`22:58.37`	`Tekkub`	`oh yea nero`
`22:58.49`	`Tekkub`	`Grayrage == Eva`
`22:59.07`	`MoonWolf`	`im not saying i have had the worst youth ever, ckknight's sounds like he had it a bit rougher.`
`22:59.16`	`Tekkub`	`totally skillless but good at telling other people what they're doing wrong`
`22:59.23`	`MoonWolf`	`but i have had enough drama and emotional distress that i cant care less about regular drama.`
`22:59.35`	`Tekkub`	`moon, personal drama sucks`
`22:59.45`	`MoonWolf`	`when friends and or family get involved.`
`22:59.48`	`Tekkub`	`but watching other's totally pointless drama is damn fun`
`22:59.52`	`MoonWolf`	`you might not want to be near me.`
`22:59.52`	`ckknight`	`once I lived under my bed for 4 days without much food because I was afraid the guards would find me`
`22:59.55`	`ckknight`	`;-)`
`23:00.25`	`MoonWolf`	`THE GAURDS ?`
`23:00.29`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`23:00.36`	`MoonWolf`	`sorry for caps.`
`23:01.01`	`MoonWolf`	`Either you needed less medication , or more.`
`23:01.11`	`Tekkub`	`"I don't think he wants to know about what cheese you eat."`
`23:01.13`	`Tekkub`	`BURN`
`23:01.19`	`Tekkub`	`id has met his nemesis`
`23:01.29`	`MoonWolf`	`forum drama ?`
`23:01.34`	`Codayus`	`Tekkub: Or visa versa, I'm not sure...`
`23:01.44`	`mjc`	`my rogue needs some more loots today.`
`23:01.51`	`Tekkub`	`yea moon, someone finally put id in his place :)`
`23:01.56`	`MoonWolf`	`link`
`23:02.02`	`MoonWolf`	`he needs karma`
`23:02.03`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1561.0/topicseen.html`
`23:02.22`	`Industrial`	`Tekkub: psh`
`23:02.29`	`Industrial`	`Tekkub: well he asked for it`
`23:02.42`	`Codayus`	`Or visa versa...`
`23:02.42`	`Tekkub`	`as have you, for a couple of months now :P`
`23:03.00`	`MoonWolf`	`yeah`
`23:03.14`	`Industrial`	`WRAAHHGGG`
`23:03.50`	`Industrial`	`btw i dont think he understood me`
`23:03.51`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`23:03.51`	`mjc`	`http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?919659 http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?919687`
`23:03.54`	`mjc`	`yay for link spam`
`23:04.13`	`Codayus`	`My assumption is that FISKER_Q simply has no understanding of sarcasm. Or an excellent one. I'm not sure. :/`
`23:04.26`	`Industrial`	`well im off to bed, nini`
`23:04.29`	`Mikma`	`haha Kyahx owns in that topic`
`23:04.41`	`MoonWolf`	`night`
`23:05.02`	`Codayus`	`Reading his posts, I can't shake the feeling that I'm being sucessfully trolled...`
`23:05.19`	`cladhaire`	`Codayus: link?`
`23:05.24`	`Codayus`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1561.0#msg26940`
`23:05.38`	`Codayus`	`Key quote: "I don't think he wants to know about what cheese you eat."`
`23:07.58`	`Tekkub`	`wobble you around?`
`23:09.08`	`mjc`	`now to grab a snack so I don't die in the next 20 minutes`
`23:09.36`	`Mikma`	`damn, PlowKing's keybinding really bugs :P`
`23:09.56`	`kergoth`	`hooray papajohns.com`
`23:10.28`	`CIA-18`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2982 10AceLibrary/AceOO.lua: AceOO - tweaked inherits function`
`23:11.19`	`Mikma`	`hmm i don't get haste's default layout`
`23:13.03`	`*** join/#wowace Parak (i=PROFI@user-0cev737.cable.mindspring.com)`
`23:13.48`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I don't think anyone does`
`23:13.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that's why you change 'em =p`
`23:13.58`	`Kebinusan`	`mmm papajohns`
`23:13.59`	`Mikma`	`hehe`
`23:14.13`	`Tekkub`	`everyone's defaults but mine suck`
`23:14.28`	`mjc`	`small 'the works' and garlic breadsticks`
`23:15.05`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Tekkub: that's almost right, but it's actully MY defaults which are the ones that don't suck`
`23:15.22`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=58&Set=64`
`23:15.24`	`Mikma`	`hyperChipmunk/Tekkub: what addon are you talking about`
`23:15.34`	`Tekkub`	`addon?`
`23:16.16`	`Mikma`	`well whattafuck ever you are using`
`23:16.20`	`Tekkub`	`cute dorf too.. same beard I got`
`23:16.51`	`mjc`	`Tekkub: I don't get that`
`23:17.01`	`Tekkub`	`what's not to get?`
`23:17.14`	`Tekkub`	`he took out his jaw, it's funny cause he's undead`
`23:17.20`	`Mikma`	`the Target of Target goes over Target's Buffs. and the layout is aligned to left :P`
`23:17.32`	`mjc`	`Tekkub: oh!`
`23:17.36`	`mjc`	`I didn't see the jaw on his head`
`23:17.37`	`mjc`	`haha`
`23:17.42`	`Neronix`	`Bah, don't think I can do NS2 until Ace2 comes out`
`23:17.52`	`Mikma`	`mjc: that was the best part of it ;)`
`23:18.07`	`Neronix`	`seems like it's nearing completion and converting to it later would turn the mod into a rube goldberg machine :P`
`23:18.11`	`Mikma`	`the last image is best i must say`
`23:21.17`	`ckknight`	`one way to speed up an Alpha of Ace2 is to help :-P`
`23:23.07`	`Neronix`	`I'm too stupid to help`
`23:23.11`	`ckknight`	`...`
`23:23.34`	`Neronix`	`Skimmed through what was done so far earlier today and I didn't make much sense of it :S`
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`23:27.02`	`ckknight`	`the last part we need is AceOptions, afaik`
`23:27.17`	`Thrae`	`Hmmm. I wonder if re-using GUI option frames would be better then making new ones for each addon. I don't think it would save that much resources.`
`23:28.30`	`ckknight`	`it's more about laziness than resources`
`23:28.41`	`Thrae`	`Eh?`
`23:29.42`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`23:29.43`	`ckknight`	`um`
`23:30.12`	`ckknight`	`the goal of AceOptions is to feed in an options table that allows you to hook in both a GUI deal and a chat deal seamlessly`
`23:30.20`	`ckknight`	`or something`
`23:30.37`	`Thrae`	`Ohhh. No, I am talking about the mod I'm working on, GooeyFigs.`
`23:32.30`	`Thrae`	`I'd probably have to about double the size of the code and throw in all kinds of more locals to get GC'd, where as its easy to set the frames to never be made if the player never opens the configuration window.`
`23:32.57`	`Thrae`	`So I don't think it's really signifigant.`
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`23:35.22`	`Thrae`	`Is AceOptions planning on using DewdropLib?`
`23:35.55`	Neronix`sleep	`night`
`23:38.33`	`kergoth`	`cant believe i'm getting a full time telecommute job. never had one of those before, figured itd be another couple of years`
`23:40.10`	`cladhaire`	`kergoth: the one from London?`
`23:40.13`	`cladhaire`	`grats!`
`23:40.18`	`mjc`	`awesome`
`23:40.45`	`kergoth`	`yep. its only a 3 month contract initially though, quite the loss of stability. not too worried, pretty good technical job market here, and i've never had problems finding jobs, worst case`
`23:40.55`	`cladhaire`	`very cool`
`23:42.21`	`cladhaire`	`now if i can get a better job i'll be happy`
`23:42.34`	`cladhaire`	`this latest one would be moving a C#/MSSql database app to the web`
`23:42.34`	Neronix`sleep	`kergoth: grats`
`23:43.05`	`kergoth`	`cladhaire: doesnt sound fun`
`23:43.45`	`cladhaire`	`Meh.. sounds better than helpdesk in a corporate environment where i have no access to make system changes`
`23:44.43`	`cladhaire`	`any development is good for me =)`
`23:44.49`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`23:44.50`	Neronix`sleep	`Hmm, think I'll convert Lexan to Ace2 tomorrow to act as a real-world test example for it`
`23:45.23`	`cladhaire`	Neronix`sleep: Don't do it.. ckknight embedded a trojan
`23:45.34`	`Mikma`	`zomfg`
`23:45.39`	`cladhaire`	`like srsly`
`23:45.45`	Neronix`sleep	`no wai!`
`23:45.46`	`cladhaire`	`at least its embedded so you dont need a dependency for it.`
`23:45.55`	`cladhaire`	`har har`
`23:46.19`	Neronix`sleep	`lol`
`23:46.29`	Neronix`sleep	`anyways, I desperately need sleep`
`23:46.29`	Neronix`sleep	`night`
`23:46.37`	`cladhaire`	`night`
`23:47.03`	`kergoth`	`this code at work is quite literally giving me a headache`
`23:47.51`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: have you ever noticed there's a problem with UIScale when saving and restoring positions?`
`23:50.03`	`mjc`	`I'll scale your UI!`
`23:50.32`	`*** join/#wowace Kyahx (n=Kyahx@72.2.212.239)`
`23:50.47`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: No, I convert everything to universal pixels.. which are scale independant.`
`23:51.01`	`Tekkub`	`in soviet russia, UI effectivly scales you!`
`23:51.10`	`cladhaire`	`so true.`
`23:51.10`	`mjc`	`haha`
`23:51.15`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: so, does PerfectRaid use it then?`
`23:51.22`	`mjc`	`you mean, uri`
`23:51.34`	`Tekkub`	`uri?`
`23:52.02`	`mjc`	`a russian name?`
`23:52.03`	`mjc`	`;P`
`23:52.10`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: The code in PR uses it, yes.`
`23:52.12`	`cladhaire`	`and it should work`
`23:52.13`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that's 'yuri'`
`23:52.19`	`mjc`	`aha`
`23:52.34`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: well, somehow it doesn't work nicely on my addon`
`23:53.34`	`Tekkub`	`yuri! Kuya Kaya Maou (or however it's spelled) !!!`
`23:54.03`	`Thrae`	`I think you mean yaoi ;)`
`23:54.16`	`Tekkub`	`no...`
`23:54.26`	`Thrae`	`yuri = lesbian, yaoi = gay`
`23:54.31`	`Tekkub`	`Kyou Kara Maou`
`23:54.37`	`Tekkub`	`good show`
`23:54.46`	`Thrae`	`Kyou Kara Maou is yaoi, or more specifically, shonen-ai`
`23:54.47`	`Tekkub`	`and the main char's name is Yuri`
`23:54.51`	`mjc`	`meh`
`23:54.53`	`Thrae`	`Ohhh...yeah`
`23:54.55`	`mjc`	`I want to use CTRA type shit in a party.`
`23:54.58`	`mjc`	`and perfectraid too`
`23:55.01`	`Tekkub`	`"Shrug" whatever it's anime`
`23:55.07`	`mjc`	`I love how simple PR is but I hate that it's raid only`
`23:55.38`	`Thrae`	`If you like KKM, you might like "Loveless"`
`23:55.51`	`Thrae`	`Also shounen-ai.`
`23:55.51`	`Tekkub`	`downloaded, need to con the hubby into watching it`
`23:57.26`	`Tekkub`	`heh Pandora's emails are funny`
`23:57.37`	`Tekkub`	`"Ariah Firefly, up-and-coming pop star and long-time Pandoran"`
`23:57.51`	`Tekkub`	`I think to myself... "she doesn't look like a pandaren"`
`23:58.39`	`maia`	`hmm, is there an easy way to check if a unit is a pet?`
`23:59.03`	`Tekkub`	`probably`
`23:59.22`	`maia`	`thanks ;p`

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