| 00:02.03 | *** join/#wowace Grumpey (n=Owner@dialup-4.152.210.187.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) |
| 00:04.45 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:04.54 | ckknight | tested the chat protocol |
| 00:05.07 | ckknight | there are two chars that cannot be transferred: 10 and 125 |
| 00:05.10 | ckknight | the rest are fine |
| 00:05.30 | ckknight | oh, and 0 |
| 00:05.37 | ckknight | so that's 0, 10, and 125 |
| 00:05.53 | ckknight | and anything <0 or >255, of course |
| 00:06.40 | cladhaire | god damn our server sucks. |
| 00:07.06 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 00:07.41 | cladhaire | our wow server |
| 00:07.46 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:07.56 | cladhaire | crashes drastically every evening at 8:00 pm or so |
| 00:08.39 | haste | cladhaire: that was how my old sever was |
| 00:08.49 | haste | 1000ms and random crashes/disconnects |
| 00:08.59 | cladhaire | we're on one of the really bad clusters, but they're only letting us pay to transfer |
| 00:09.06 | cladhaire | so naturally we all just wait.. and deal with it. |
| 00:09.15 | haste | We migrated |
| 00:09.40 | haste | now we're on a server with 12ms, short queues ;) |
| 00:09.46 | ckknight | 12ms? |
| 00:09.47 | ckknight | damn |
| 00:09.55 | haste | Europe ftw ;) |
| 00:09.57 | *** part/#wowace Grumpey (n=Owner@dialup-4.152.210.187.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) |
| 00:09.58 | ckknight | ah |
| 00:11.49 | Thrae | ckknight: Here you go, here's an entire addon which shows the problem with Dewdrop -- http://pastebin.ca/83705 |
| 00:12.02 | Thrae | s/the problem/the problem I'm having/ |
| 00:15.32 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r4437 10PingPong/: PingPong: Creating folder |
| 00:17.01 | ckknight | what is PingPong? |
| 00:17.16 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r4438 10PingPong/ (PingPong.lua PingPong.toc): PingPong: Initial import. Simple addon to show who pinged minimap |
| 00:17.18 | Mikma | that |
| 00:18.14 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:18.15 | ckknight | neat |
| 00:23.12 | kergoth | ckknight: if i accidentally deselect my target, and he continues to beat on me, autoattack doesnt target the guy attacking me and re-engage autoattack |
| 00:23.24 | ckknight | right. |
| 00:23.24 | ckknight | I know |
| 00:23.35 | ckknight | because you purposely deselected |
| 00:23.37 | Mikma | it's not a bug, it's a feature! |
| 00:23.42 | kergoth | well, i'll keep that in mind. i may switch back to dy |
| 00:23.43 | ckknight | either manually or through firing a spell |
| 00:24.06 | ckknight | I always hated trying to _stop_ attacking |
| 00:24.39 | kergoth | hmm. nod |
| 00:25.08 | kergoth | multiple times now, i've engaged a mob via autoshoot, then hit him with raptor strike as he got closer, and autoattack didnt engage. |
| 00:25.14 | kergoth | i just stand there getting beat on |
| 00:25.24 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 00:25.36 | ckknight | see, that should be a bug |
| 00:25.38 | Mikma | there's something horribly wrong with hunters and autoattack anyway |
| 00:25.57 | Mikma | raptor strikes seems to turn the toon off from attacking |
| 00:26.10 | Mikma | that can be tested with lvl1 character too |
| 00:26.40 | kergoth | that doesnt always happen here.. at least with autoattack loaded.. but it does sometimes |
| 00:27.00 | kergoth | yep, just did it again |
| 00:27.06 | kergoth | gettin beta on |
| 00:27.08 | kergoth | beat, even |
| 00:27.09 | Mikma | kergoth: it happened to my lvl1-10 hunter all the time |
| 00:27.32 | kergoth | its annoying as hell |
| 00:27.43 | Amafi | my hunter is only lvl 11,but it seems like if you toggle autoattack first,and then raptor strike,it disables autoattack |
| 00:28.14 | kergoth | if autoattack gets turned on automatically by autoattack due to him getting out of my bow's range, a raptor strike doesnt disable it |
| 00:28.19 | haste | kergoth: Sticky targets! |
| 00:28.38 | Amafi | but if you hit raptor strike as soon as it enters range without right-clicking on it,it toggles autoattack on |
| 00:28.41 | kergoth | if it doesnt, if i hit raptor strike before it gets turned on, it never gets turne don, and i get beat on |
| 00:28.48 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:28.50 | kergoth | sometimes anyway |
| 00:29.23 | Amafi | that's without any addons outside bongos,bagnon and perl classic unit frames at least |
| 00:29.35 | kergoth | thats messed up |
| 00:29.52 | kergoth | yep, did it again |
| 00:29.53 | kergoth | grr |
| 00:30.11 | kergoth | i think defendyourself works around it. at least, i dont remember ever seeing this in the past, when i used that |
| 00:30.21 | Amafi | damn these lazy carnies...get the faire up already |
| 00:30.48 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:30.53 | Amafi | I've been waiting for 3 weeks for my heroism trinket now,getting seriously impatient |
| 00:31.20 | Amafi | completed the deck about 2 hours before it left elwynn forest :( |
| 00:31.29 | ckknight | btw, Thrae the tooltipTitle/tooltipText work fine |
| 00:32.36 | Amafi | at least I can hang out here and wait without getting killed by every single person in the zone,which is kind of nice |
| 00:33.15 | Thrae | ckknight: Yes, I'm pretty sure it's the way I am making a frame for Dewdrop. Could you tell me how to make a suitable "dummy" frame for Dewdrop? |
| 00:33.23 | ckknight | hang on. |
| 00:34.16 | Mikma | Thrae: when will you commit the fix for /tinytip icons ? |
| 00:35.03 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r4439 10TinyTipOptions/ (TinyTipOptions.lua TinyTipOptions.toc): TinyTipOptions: Fix for /ttip icons and others. |
| 00:37.26 | kergoth | damn, trying to do a /asbestos parse on my level 4 hunter hosed it |
| 00:39.19 | kergoth | ooh, http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4526-1-sct-cooldowns.html |
| 00:39.41 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r4440 10TinyTipOptions/ (TinyTipOptions.lua TinyTipOptions.toc): TinyTipOptions: Last fix had bad TOC. |
| 00:40.07 | gnorlish | son of a bitch thrae |
| 00:40.23 | haste | wow, the design on eqinterface is quite nice :o |
| 00:41.31 | cladhaire | eq, the design on wowinterface is quite nice :o |
| 00:41.48 | Mikma | k |
| 00:42.00 | haste | hehe |
| 00:44.52 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4441 10Ace2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): AceConsole/AceDebug - tweaked print statements. |
| 00:47.38 | mjc | fubarplugin-1.2.lua:1446: attempt to index field 'frame' (a nil value) |
| 00:54.55 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4442 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - zomg Blizzard needs better internal coding. fixed Thrae's issue. |
| 00:55.13 | ckknight | Thrae, fixed |
| 00:55.25 | ckknight | least for the test case you gave me |
| 00:55.37 | Industrial | im so bored with wow atm |
| 00:55.40 | ckknight | turns out, if I do parent:GetCenter(), it calculates the position |
| 00:55.50 | Industrial | cant get the energy to go and kill 100 mobs |
| 00:55.52 | ckknight | Industrial, welcome to my world. mwahaha |
| 00:56.30 | Industrial | tfc time |
| 00:56.39 | Industrial | Im actually waiting for TCoS closed beta 2 |
| 00:56.45 | Industrial | any time these weeks |
| 00:56.53 | Mikma | ^^ |
| 00:59.16 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r4443 10Ace2/ (8 files): Ace2/TestSuite - updated tests |
| 01:00.41 | Thrae | ckknight: Could you apply the fix to where you're doing the NewbieTips call too? Since I'm still getting no tooltips. Lemme pastebin my slightly altered test case. |
| 01:00.55 | ckknight | tooltips work |
| 01:01.01 | ckknight | something is fucked on your end :-P |
| 01:01.33 | Thrae | http://pastebin.ca/83737 <-- no other addons enabled |
| 01:03.14 | Thrae | Well if I need to do something special in my CreateFrame call, then by all means, tell me what it is. |
| 01:03.21 | Thrae | s/in/after/ |
| 01:03.39 | Thrae | Grrr |
| 01:03.44 | ckknight | Thrae, I hate to break this to you |
| 01:03.46 | ckknight | but with your code |
| 01:03.48 | ckknight | copy-pasted |
| 01:03.50 | ckknight | I get a tooltip. |
| 01:04.13 | Thrae | Ahh |
| 01:04.21 | Thrae | Had "Show Detailed Tooltips" off |
| 01:05.03 | ckknight | ... |
| 01:05.46 | Mikma | ~whalewhip Thrae |
| 01:05.53 | Mikma | oh too bad |
| 01:05.56 | Mikma | no whipping for you |
| 01:06.38 | Mikma | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2868 |
| 01:07.32 | ckknight | is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch? |
| 01:08.08 | Thrae | ckknight: You might want to set getglobal("SHOW_NEWBIE_TIPS") = 1 before calling GameTooltip_AddNewbieTip, otherwise people who long, long ago turned them off might wonder why Dewdrop's tooltips aren't working |
| 01:08.25 | ckknight | or I could use another function |
| 01:08.26 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:08.32 | Thrae | That too. |
| 01:09.26 | Thrae | I turned it off about a year ago, I just didn't make the connection in my head that Advanced Options->Show Detailed Tooltips == SHOW_NEWBIE_TIPS |
| 01:10.31 | Thrae | ckknight: Thanks for the fix and help :) |
| 01:10.47 | ckknight | glad to be appreciated |
| 01:12.56 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4444 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - made tooltip display more explicitly defined. |
| 01:13.24 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub 07Ace2 * r4445 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 01:13.24 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Ace2 Branch) |
| 01:13.24 | CIA-7 | - Merging in trunk (4267 - Current) |
| 01:13.50 | Tekkub | 4445 BLAST! >< |
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| 01:13.56 | ckknight | I got 4444 |
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| 01:14.02 | ckknight | that's good luck for Chinese people |
| 01:14.04 | Tekkub | by 30 seconds |
| 01:14.15 | haste | Why is every person I get in discussion with a retard :( |
| 01:14.25 | Tekkub | I'm not talking to you now |
| 01:14.38 | Mikma | haste: hello? |
| 01:14.41 | haste | "There is no difference in third party programs and AddOns" |
| 01:14.48 | Mikma | mmkay |
| 01:14.53 | snurre | what I love about knowing the wow game policy thoroughly: i can abuse people and then report them for harassing me :p |
| 01:15.13 | Mikma | there is a minor difference, addons are allowed, 3rd party programs aren't ;) |
| 01:15.22 | steino | snurre: you are clearly the most evil person i know.. from now.. except haste. |
| 01:15.24 | steino | ! |
| 01:15.25 | snurre | addons =! programs |
| 01:15.34 | ckknight | it's != |
| 01:15.35 | steino | haste is the spawn of evil! |
| 01:15.45 | snurre | ckknight: i know, but im drunk |
| 01:15.56 | haste | snurre: Both you and me know how retarded the people on the norwegian WoW IRC channel is. |
| 01:16.06 | snurre | steino: i would almost thank you, but im disappointed |
| 01:16.10 | steino | :( |
| 01:16.11 | ckknight | snurre, as a religious authority, I look down on that, snurre |
| 01:16.12 | mjc | heh |
| 01:16.36 | snurre | haste: what does irc and wow got to do with norwegian idiocy? :p |
| 01:16.58 | haste | ^^ |
| 01:17.02 | snurre | ckknight: good think im a radical atheist then :p |
| 01:17.16 | ckknight | my reach only goes so far, I guess |
| 01:17.44 | Amadeo | ckknight: why do people do /= these days? |
| 01:17.54 | Thrae | "Report ME for harrasment?! I only cursed at him when he wouldn't stop spamming emotes around me!" GM: "Well, you see, he sent in a nicely-worded harrasment petition, and quoted excerpts from the TOS. In fact, his petition...was...beautiful. I have it mounted on my shelf (we GMs are just stuck into shelves instead of cubicles). Therefore, you are banned." |
| 01:17.55 | ckknight | Amadeo, Haskell ftw. |
| 01:18.14 | Amadeo | ckknight: wassat? |
| 01:18.40 | ckknight | Haskell is a computer language deeply entrenched in algorithms and mathematics |
| 01:18.51 | ckknight | it uses /= for not equal |
| 01:18.56 | ckknight | afaik |
| 01:19.10 | Amadeo | So in a battle between != and /=, who wins!? |
| 01:19.13 | snurre | ckknight: being a radical atheist is that you don't only believe there is nothing, you *know* there is nothing |
| 01:19.13 | ckknight | it's from the 60's, so it's not "nowadays" |
| 01:19.22 | Amafi | people still use haskell? |
| 01:19.25 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:19.32 | ckknight | mostly in academia |
| 01:19.46 | Amafi | ah |
| 01:19.51 | ckknight | snurre, my beliefs are basically Nihilism with a dash of reincarnation |
| 01:20.08 | Amafi | well,yeah,I guess many specialist communities still use the old tools they're used to |
| 01:20.08 | snurre | Thrae: i don't curse at non-guildies in-game anymore, as i know what chatsearches can reveal :p |
| 01:20.15 | Thrae | Also known as "Strong Aethism" |
| 01:20.32 | snurre | ckknight: personally i find douglas adams quite a genious :p |
| 01:20.50 | ckknight | I've been warned twice already for bitching at people |
| 01:20.51 | Amadeo | What about Bryan Adams? |
| 01:21.00 | ckknight | one for calling a total douche a douche |
| 01:21.07 | ckknight | and I forget the other one |
| 01:21.09 | Industrial | warned where |
| 01:21.13 | snurre | never heard much of his philosophy tbh |
| 01:21.14 | ckknight | by a GM |
| 01:21.18 | Industrial | lol |
| 01:21.31 | Thrae | Strong Aethism == Belief, Weak Aethism == Disbelief, Agnonicism == Belief |
| 01:21.42 | Amadeo | Samuel Adams? |
| 01:21.49 | ckknight | Jack Daniels |
| 01:21.52 | snurre | never called someone a douche.. simply explain it to them in a matter that makes them realize it themselves |
| 01:21.55 | snurre | works so much better |
| 01:22.08 | ckknight | he was 14. |
| 01:22.12 | Mikma | Samuel L. Jackson |
| 01:22.13 | snurre | and when they get mad at you, and start cursing or swearing: report them to GMs |
| 01:22.15 | ckknight | and spamming about how my guild was bad |
| 01:22.35 | snurre | maybe it was? |
| 01:22.47 | Amafi | again,I propose a new ignore * command in wow |
| 01:23.04 | ckknight | ignore *? |
| 01:23.11 | snurre | *.* |
| 01:23.13 | Amafi | that way,I could just unignore the 40 or so decent people I've met ingame the last 9 months |
| 01:23.18 | Mikma | This file is currently awaiting approval from a file admin. You will only be able to download older versions of this file until it's approved. :P |
| 01:23.19 | Amafi | less typing |
| 01:24.14 | haste | Mikma: that's some damn good beer! |
| 01:24.22 | Amafi | don't know if its wow,or if it's playing on euro servers,but there are WAY too many kids and idiots in this game |
| 01:24.36 | mjc | wow |
| 01:24.41 | ckknight | we should all take a moment to remember the phrase: WWJD |
| 01:24.50 | ckknight | We want Jack Daniels. |
| 01:24.55 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tdKDH1gcyc << I still laugh of his sketches |
| 01:25.02 | Amafi | or maybe SWG was a special case,played it for 16 months and only had 2 people ignored |
| 01:25.03 | Thrae | Amafi: Perhaps you just need to stop and take a hard look of the world around you -- the whole world ;) |
| 01:25.46 | Thrae | SWG is much more realistic, WoW is more cartoonish looking |
| 01:25.47 | Mikma | haste: lemme guess, dave chappelle? |
| 01:25.51 | haste | Mikma: yes ;D |
| 01:26.04 | Mikma | haste: "how does it taste motherfucker?!?" ;) |
| 01:26.30 | snurre | mmm mmm bitch |
| 01:26.35 | haste | My favorite is: I'm Rick James, bitch! |
| 01:26.44 | Amafi | I really think having a bunch of young people that can't communicate too well in english is the major problem |
| 01:26.48 | Mikma | haste: that's my favorite too :D |
| 01:27.01 | haste | I laughed so hard when I saw that episode |
| 01:27.12 | snurre | the rick james sketch is legendary |
| 01:27.19 | Mikma | haste: you should see if there's the story about charlie murphy and prince playing basketball |
| 01:27.25 | Amafi | that,or they're all asshats and just weaklings and decided it's safer being an asshat in a makebelieve world than in real life |
| 01:27.32 | haste | Mikma: I've seen the two seasons ;) |
| 01:27.38 | Industrial | haste: pm |
| 01:27.44 | haste | Industrial: in-game? |
| 01:28.03 | haste | err.. forum? |
| 01:28.05 | haste | *checks* |
| 01:28.11 | Industrial | no, here |
| 01:28.15 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:28.22 | haste | Kow is confused :( |
| 01:28.24 | Industrial | oh snap |
| 01:28.29 | Industrial | i hate nickserv based servers |
| 01:28.33 | Industrial | it sucks, balls. |
| 01:28.41 | haste | haha, oh snaps :p |
| 01:29.25 | Mikma | haste: "i'm riiiitch biaaatch!" |
| 01:29.47 | Mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ7qMqYOkRU |
| 01:29.48 | Mikma | there it is |
| 01:29.54 | Mikma | charlie murphy vs. prince |
| 01:36.36 | Mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWZXZCIKUmA :DD |
| 01:36.45 | Mikma | Tyrone Biggums! |
| 01:39.50 | Thrae | Man, FFXII looks awesome. |
| 01:40.26 | Thrae | OK, well, the "Gambit" system in FFXII looks awesome. Rudimentary AI ftw! |
| 01:40.41 | Thrae | s/AI/programmable AI/. |
| 01:41.40 | ckknight | hey Tain |
| 01:42.23 | ag` | how do I make a frame dragable... |
| 01:42.26 | ag` | registerfordrag? |
| 01:42.39 | Mikma | ag`: check out from Bartender/Core.lua |
| 01:42.48 | ag` | ok |
| 01:43.14 | Mikma | it should be in Bartender:CreateFrame(foo) funciton |
| 01:44.16 | Mikma | ok gn |
| 01:44.20 | ag` | nn |
| 01:47.28 | Tain | Great. I can only take screenshots with a hotkey when I have the keybind window open to set prtscrn as the screenshot hotkey. |
| 01:51.49 | CIA-7 | 03ag * r4446 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): |
| 01:51.49 | CIA-7 | ag_UnitFrames - |
| 01:51.49 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.49 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.49 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.50 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:09.27 | Kaelten | hows it going guys? |
| 02:11.36 | ckknight | well |
| 02:11.41 | Kaelten | awesome |
| 02:11.48 | ckknight | I did ... something |
| 02:12.06 | Kaelten | did you here about the toggle bug? |
| 02:12.10 | Kaelten | .... what did you do? |
| 02:12.15 | ckknight | I forget |
| 02:12.21 | ckknight | you mean the standby bug? |
| 02:12.23 | ckknight | I fixed that |
| 02:12.46 | Kaelten | k, so what did you do? |
| 02:13.06 | ckknight | I forget what I did |
| 02:13.07 | ckknight | oh |
| 02:13.08 | ckknight | um |
| 02:13.17 | ckknight | renamed the scheduling stuff in AceEvent |
| 02:13.30 | Kaelten | talking about the delayed event stuff? |
| 02:13.34 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:13.44 | ckknight | and got AceConsole set up so chip can properly add the tab-completion |
| 02:14.23 | ckknight | Kaelten, it's now :ScheduleEvent("event" or func, delay, ...) or ("id", "event" or func, delay, ...) |
| 02:14.33 | ckknight | and :CancelScheduledEvent(id or "id") |
| 02:14.54 | ckknight | and :IsEventScheduled(id or "id"), which returns whether it's scheduled, but also the time remaining |
| 02:15.11 | Kaelten | sounds more consistant |
| 02:15.17 | ckknight | right |
| 02:15.25 | ckknight | fun thing, btw, if you haven't seen: |
| 02:15.33 | ckknight | self:ScheduleEvent(self.SomeMethod, 5, self) |
| 02:15.41 | ckknight | calls self:SomeMethod() in 5 seconds |
| 02:16.17 | Kaelten | hrm. |
| 02:16.17 | Kaelten | neat |
| 02:16.29 | ckknight | yep |
| 02:16.38 | Kaelten | oh did step get added in as an option for ranges? |
| 02:16.46 | ckknight | oh, forgot about that :-P |
| 02:17.06 | Kaelten | ya, its actually a small bug in dewdrop for OneBag :) |
| 02:17.08 | ckknight | lemme edit the spec |
| 02:17.24 | ckknight | oh, btw, why is it http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Ace2 and not http://wiki.wowace.com/Ace2 ? |
| 02:18.05 | Kaelten | well its really wiki.wowace.com/index.php?id=Ace2 or something like that |
| 02:18.24 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:19.07 | Kaelten | just the slashes are better for search engines and the like |
| 02:19.16 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:20.03 | Industrial | Kaelten: pm |
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| 02:24.23 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
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| 02:28.33 | ckknight | btw, Kael, whenever you go away, do you have to spam the channels you are in? |
| 02:32.10 | ckknight | okay, for AceConsole, ranges will be rounded to the nearest step :-) |
| 02:36.19 | kergoth | mrplow seems bugged wrt ammo bags. it tried placing stuff that isnt arrows in my arrow bag |
| 02:37.06 | mjc | any way to see how much script memory is used without a mod? :p |
| 02:37.30 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.41 | Tem | oh, I guess /dump is an addon... |
| 02:38.00 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:38.02 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4447 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: AceConsole - added range/step |
| 02:38.34 | ckknight | mjc, /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(string.format("%s %s", gcinfo())) |
| 02:38.41 | mjc | aha |
| 02:40.31 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4448 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: AceConsole - added check for step <= 0 |
| 02:40.46 | Thrae | I'm waiting for the next age of fantasy MMOs, ones where "auto attack" doesn't mean you use the same swing animation to deal random, sometimes very lethal amounts of damage. |
| 02:41.22 | hyperChipmunk | you realize that that's not considered a bad thing |
| 02:41.26 | ckknight | oh, I think I saw that game |
| 02:41.40 | ckknight | I was offered a free account |
| 02:42.14 | Thrae | I'd like to see two tiers of skills - one just for "auto-attack", and one used in the normal way. The auto-attack skills can be customized to suit your playstyle. |
| 02:42.18 | hyperChipmunk | they're fashioned after tabletop dice RPG games; it's a conscious design decision |
| 02:42.52 | hyperChipmunk | the generation of the game doesn't determine that |
| 02:43.14 | Thrae | That's not necessarily true, they could at least have different swing types. |
| 02:44.13 | Thrae | Skill in weapons shouldn't be left entirely up to the game engine, the player should have some role in determining which parts of the body to go after. |
| 02:45.39 | Thrae | There is no limit to the imagination when playing pen&paper, and that's what fantasy MMORPGs should be striving for -- not rehashes of EQ's take on it. |
| 02:46.42 | Thrae | Or maybe I just want to see pretty animations. |
| 02:46.49 | hyperChipmunk | you want a hack-n-slash |
| 02:46.50 | Thrae | Oooo, 1000-strike combo! |
| 02:47.05 | hyperChipmunk | which is different than an RPG |
| 02:47.40 | Kaelten | is there a toboolean? |
| 02:48.09 | Thrae | RPG just means your character is allowed to grow in progression within a dynamic world. |
| 02:48.11 | Tekkub | fucnton(v) if v then return true end ??? |
| 02:48.12 | hyperChipmunk | why would there be? |
| 02:48.20 | hyperChipmunk | hehe right, tek |
| 02:48.36 | Kaelten | I just need to be able to convert "true" to true |
| 02:48.41 | Tekkub | return v and true or false... wait no |
| 02:48.51 | Tekkub | false wouldn't eval os it'd return nil |
| 02:48.52 | hyperChipmunk | a = "true" |
| 02:48.58 | hyperChipmunk | b = true and a |
| 02:49.09 | Thrae | Kaelten: v = v == "true" |
| 02:49.26 | Tekkub | v = v == true *boggle* |
| 02:49.33 | hyperChipmunk | er, b = a and true =P |
| 02:49.51 | Thrae | Tekkub: He said "true", not true :D |
| 02:50.02 | Tekkub | screw him |
| 02:50.07 | Kaelten | screw you hippy |
| 02:50.16 | Thrae | I think he's taken, Tekkub, but you're welcome to ask! |
| 02:50.47 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4449 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: AceConsole - tweak |
| 02:50.57 | ckknight | CIA's slow |
| 02:50.58 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4450 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - added step. |
| 02:51.04 | ckknight | alright, Kaelten |
| 02:51.12 | FryGuy | all i have to say is "true" |
| 02:51.13 | FryGuy | :p |
| 02:51.25 | Kaelten | woot |
| 02:51.27 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 02:51.37 | FryGuy | added step? |
| 02:51.39 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:51.43 | ckknight | stepsize |
| 02:51.47 | FryGuy | oh |
| 02:51.47 | ckknight | for the slider |
| 02:51.51 | Tekkub | ah |
| 02:52.00 | ckknight | it's also now in the AceOptions data spec |
| 02:52.03 | Kaelten | so step = 1 is valid? |
| 02:52.06 | ckknight | yes. |
| 02:52.08 | FryGuy | i'm still kind of frustrated about dewdrop.. i can't position it over the cursor :( |
| 02:52.25 | ckknight | FryGuy, okay |
| 02:52.31 | ckknight | FryGuy, why do you need to? |
| 02:52.34 | FryGuy | well |
| 02:52.53 | FryGuy | i'm trying to make a dewdrop when you alt-click on an item link in the chat box |
| 02:52.57 | FryGuy | i'm probably doing something wrong though |
| 02:53.16 | FryGuy | i set cursorx and cursory |
| 02:53.24 | FryGuy | but it puts it over there --> |
| 02:53.31 | Kaelten | is step optional? |
| 02:53.41 | ckknight | ys |
| 02:53.43 | ckknight | yes* |
| 02:53.46 | ckknight | and by default, it's 0 |
| 02:53.55 | ckknight | which means no stepsize |
| 02:54.02 | Kaelten | k, gotcha |
| 02:54.07 | ckknight | technically, for dewdrop, the stepsize is (max - min) / 100 |
| 02:54.08 | Thrae | I thought cursorX and cursorY determined how you interact with the Dewdrop frame itself? |
| 02:54.21 | ckknight | Thrae, no, how it positions where you click |
| 02:54.42 | ckknight | FryGuy, I guess I could add both cursorx and cursory capabilities... |
| 02:54.56 | FryGuy | well it's already there |
| 02:55.01 | FryGuy | i saw it in the code & docs :p |
| 02:55.26 | Kaelten | ckknight: [21:54-281] OneBag\libs\Dewdrop\Dewdrop-2.0.lua:1020: `)' expected (to close `(' at line 1019) near `else' |
| 02:55.32 | ckknight | whoops. |
| 02:55.37 | mjc | does reloadui'ing save to savedvariables? |
| 02:55.42 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 02:55.45 | Kaelten | yes |
| 02:56.03 | Thrae | So if you set both cursorX and cursorY to true, it is suppose to follow the cursor always, or are they explicit? |
| 02:56.26 | FryGuy | i looked in code and it looked like it was only on the create.. so i set it |
| 02:56.34 | FryGuy | the docs imply the other way though |
| 02:56.56 | FryGuy | but it didn't make sense.. why would the menu follow your cursor, if you needed to go up/down to select different options :p |
| 02:57.25 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4451 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - fix typo |
| 02:57.29 | Thrae | Maybe it just follows the cursor if you try to exit the Dewdrop frame. |
| 02:58.13 | mjc | http://www.ecaft.com/roster/char.php?name=Melodi&server=Magtheridon |
| 02:59.17 | Kaelten | ckknight: [21:59-283] OneBag\libs\Dewdrop\Dewdrop-2.0.lua:1020: `)' expected (to close `(' at line 1019) near `else' |
| 02:59.19 | Kaelten | still |
| 03:00.15 | Thrae | Anyway FryGuy, you can do local x,y = GetCursorPosition() x = x / UIParent:GetScale() y = y / UIParent:GetScale() YourFrame:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", UIParent, x, y) |
| 03:00.42 | FryGuy | ya someone said that before |
| 03:00.45 | FryGuy | but it's a dewdrop frame |
| 03:00.55 | FryGuy | i don't have access to it i don't think |
| 03:01.01 | Thrae | But Dewdrop must open relative to its parent frame. |
| 03:01.14 | FryGuy | yes |
| 03:01.19 | FryGuy | but I can't move the parent frame |
| 03:01.19 | Thrae | So if you don't have a parent frame you can move around, make one. |
| 03:01.33 | FryGuy | hmm that's hackish though :/ |
| 03:01.45 | FryGuy | so you're saying make a new frame above the cursor, then dewdrop on it? |
| 03:01.57 | Thrae | Yes, but you only need to make it once... |
| 03:02.08 | FryGuy | hmm seems hackish :p |
| 03:02.56 | Thrae | It's the Law Of Dewdrop(tm) -- Everything must be relative to an existing parent. |
| 03:05.19 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4452 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - fixed typo |
| 03:07.34 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4453 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - possible cursorx + cursory support |
| 03:07.39 | ckknight | FryGuy, try it out |
| 03:07.42 | ckknight | it may or may not work |
| 03:07.43 | FryGuy | hmm |
| 03:07.46 | FryGuy | i'm hungry :p |
| 03:07.52 | FryGuy | i'll try after i go get some food |
| 03:08.01 | ckknight | that doesn't help me |
| 03:08.04 | FryGuy | i'm just wondering if togos is open, or if I have to go to mcdonalds :/ |
| 03:08.28 | FryGuy | fine fine i'll try it |
| 03:12.59 | clad|sleep | night all |
| 03:14.58 | ckknight | g'night |
| 03:15.07 | Kaelten | gnight clad|sleep |
| 03:18.38 | Gngsk | How can I keep the FuBar Plugins that I dock to the minimap from being on top of everything? |
| 03:19.05 | Gngsk | when I open my bag, the button is on top of my inventory |
| 03:19.38 | FryGuy | ckknight: it's doing the same thing still |
| 03:19.56 | FryGuy | it's aligning as close as it can to the frame without overlapping it |
| 03:20.06 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:20.23 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r4454 10TinyTip/TinyTipAnchor.lua: TinyTip: Fixed "STICKY" bug. |
| 03:20.24 | mjc | bulkmail really improved |
| 03:21.12 | FryGuy | dewdrop:Open(frame, |
| 03:21.12 | FryGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.12 | FryGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.15 | mjc | thrae: reloaduing for you |
| 03:21.16 | FryGuy | that's my init thing |
| 03:21.26 | Thrae | ckknight: Could Dewdrop be made with DIALOG strata instead of TOOLTIP? It obscurs GameTooltip if too close to it. |
| 03:21.42 | FryGuy | frame = UIParent in this case |
| 03:21.43 | Thrae | Or just set to a FrameLevel one lower then GameTooltip. |
| 03:21.45 | FryGuy | with no "" |
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| 03:27.39 | FryGuy | hmm |
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| 03:32.57 | ckknight | well, FryGuy, it seems to be working for me. |
| 03:34.33 | FryGuy | want me to upload code? |
| 03:34.37 | FryGuy | and you can see? :P |
| 03:36.23 | ckknight | yes |
| 03:37.30 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4455 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - account for uiscale |
| 03:38.06 | FryGuy | it's in frylistdkp |
| 03:38.16 | FryGuy | should be able to check it out :p |
| 03:38.35 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:38.42 | ckknight | trunk, branch? |
| 03:39.39 | FryGuy | trunk |
| 03:39.44 | FryGuy | even though it really ought to be a branch |
| 03:42.44 | ckknight | okay, and you tried it with the most recent Dewdrop? |
| 03:43.41 | FryGuy | ya it's an embed |
| 03:43.44 | FryGuy | so i just updated again |
| 03:43.45 | FryGuy | right? |
| 03:44.16 | FryGuy | wait r4455? |
| 03:44.19 | ckknight | es |
| 03:44.20 | ckknight | yes* |
| 03:44.25 | FryGuy | i think i had r4454 :p |
| 03:44.38 | FryGuy | no same thing |
| 03:46.09 | FryGuy | no matter where I click in the chat frame it does the same thing |
| 03:49.09 | ckknight | what happens? |
| 03:50.24 | Kaelten | where does GetInventorySlot() get defined anyone have nay idea? |
| 03:50.52 | ckknight | hang on |
| 03:51.45 | ckknight | looks like internal |
| 03:51.48 | ckknight | not in framexml |
| 03:52.00 | ckknight | wait |
| 03:52.06 | ckknight | is it this:GetInventorySlot()? |
| 03:52.21 | ckknight | cause that gets defined in BankFrame.lua |
| 03:52.22 | Kaelten | yes |
| 03:52.26 | Kaelten | does it? |
| 03:52.32 | Kaelten | I thought I looked there |
| 03:52.38 | ckknight | this.GetInventorySlot = ButtonInventorySlot; |
| 03:53.27 | Kaelten | ya, just saw that :s |
| 03:53.35 | Kaelten | I was searching for it with the () |
| 03:54.14 | ckknight | FryGuy, honestly, if you're not willing to help me find your problem, it won't get solved |
| 03:55.01 | FryGuy | sorry i was afk |
| 03:55.14 | FryGuy | here i'll take a ss |
| 03:56.48 | Kaelten | damnit for some reason the bank bags in OneBank aren't loading up at all. |
| 04:00.04 | FryGuy | http://www.burntpopcorn.net/images/wow/WoWScrnShot_070906_205546.jpg |
| 04:00.24 | FryGuy | it puts the dewdrop there no matter where I click inside that window |
| 04:08.10 | Kaelten | wtf |
| 04:13.16 | kergoth | Kaelten: whats taking up all the ram with oenbag atm? its like 760K |
| 04:13.20 | kergoth | Kaelten: the options frames? |
| 04:13.25 | kergoth | s/options/configuration/ |
| 04:13.38 | Kaelten | kergoth, some of it is libraries |
| 04:14.22 | Kaelten | and then you have all the common code between OneBag and OneBank in there as well, to avoid having a OneCore as well |
| 04:15.10 | Kaelten | when OneCore was split off during that part of development OneBag normally ran around 370-400k |
| 04:16.41 | Kaelten | why does OneBag relaly seem that bloated? |
| 04:17.45 | Thrae | Ace2 can do that. Warmup is a better judge then filesize when it comes to Ace2 addons. |
| 04:18.35 | Kaelten | Thrae: not ness. since any ace2 addon that has a more up to date library is goign to seem to take more memory and longer to load |
| 04:19.02 | kergoth | no, the addon will only seem larger due to libs if it has libs that are newer than what's already in ram |
| 04:19.09 | Thrae | Yeah, that's true too. |
| 04:19.14 | Kaelten | thats what Iw as saying |
| 04:19.15 | kergoth | but i'll compare the total system ram usage with it disabled and enabled |
| 04:19.18 | kergoth | to try to get a better figure |
| 04:19.25 | kergoth | s/system/ui/ |
| 04:20.32 | Kaelten | kergoth: on my system it makes about a .4mb difference |
| 04:22.10 | kergoth | cool, thats reasonable |
| 04:23.22 | Tekkub | ckk... |
| 04:23.22 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub * r4457 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: |
| 04:23.22 | CIA-7 | AceModuleCore-2.0 |
| 04:23.22 | CIA-7 | - Added new API methods to the mixins tabel (tsk tsk, forgetting this again ckk....) |
| 04:23.22 | CIA-7 | - Fixed various library-breaking typos |
| 04:23.27 | Kaelten | once you start using it it probably goes up a little bit, but until you open your bag it sleeps really |
| 04:23.39 | ckknight | back |
| 04:23.45 | Tekkub | ToggleModuleActive is not calling mixin's disable thingies |
| 04:23.56 | ckknight | it should |
| 04:24.01 | Tekkub | the module's events stay registered |
| 04:24.12 | ckknight | hang on. |
| 04:24.13 | Tekkub | and delayed event still fire |
| 04:24.32 | Kaelten | kergoth: OneBank eats up about 150k on load give or take |
| 04:24.40 | Kaelten | thats when LoadAddOn is called anyway |
| 04:28.19 | kergoth | Kaelten: okay, feature request |
| 04:28.25 | kergoth | bagnon lets me adjust the alpha of the background only |
| 04:28.31 | kergoth | so my bag slots are all still visible at 100% |
| 04:29.24 | Kaelten | hrm, I wonder how he does that |
| 04:29.26 | Kaelten | I'll look into it |
| 04:29.46 | Kaelten | do you think background coloring is something I should even look into? |
| 04:30.56 | kergoth | hmm, pretty sure bagnon has it, but personally, i dont think its that worthwhile. screwing with the backdrop color could reduce visibility of the bag contents, no? |
| 04:31.25 | gnorlish | i make mine seethrough :o |
| 04:31.27 | gnorlish | with bagnon |
| 04:31.35 | kergoth | yeah, i make mine pretty close. like 20% or somethiing |
| 04:32.12 | Kaelten | I can look at doing that |
| 04:32.28 | Kaelten | I wonder if thats done through the setting the backdrops color ? |
| 04:33.35 | kergoth | its all in the same configuration page, afaik. a color picker / alpha selector |
| 04:33.43 | Thrae | Kaelten: Probably it's the backdrop, yes. |
| 04:33.46 | gnorlish | i get a pretty little coloring menu just like with my text box backgrounds |
| 04:33.51 | Tekkub | oh and ckk, what means should I use to force a module into disabled mode OnInit so that OnEnable is not called untill I toggle the module? |
| 04:33.52 | kergoth | onebag is looking good though, i love the coloring of the borders of the profession bags and such |
| 04:34.03 | Kaelten | thanks :) |
| 04:34.20 | ckknight | Tekkub, core:ToggleModuleActive('thingy', false) |
| 04:34.44 | Kaelten | kergoth: when you open up your bank is your bankbag working properly? |
| 04:34.47 | Tekkub | function BigWigsDebug:OnInitialize() |
| 04:34.47 | Tekkub | BigWigs:ToggleModuleActive("Debuggy", false) |
| 04:34.47 | Tekkub | end |
| 04:34.53 | Tekkub | OnEnable is still being called |
| 04:35.09 | ckknight | once I fix it, of course |
| 04:35.15 | Tekkub | whateva! |
| 04:35.18 | Tekkub | :) |
| 04:35.21 | ckknight | don't. |
| 04:35.23 | Tekkub | it does what it wants! |
| 04:35.24 | ckknight | just, just don't. |
| 04:35.39 | Tekkub | ~c'thun |
| 04:35.46 | purl | *** Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - 10~ sec! *** |
| 04:35.53 | Tekkub | that make ya feel better? |
| 04:35.59 | Tekkub | or you want more? |
| 04:36.41 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4458 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: AceModuleCore - fixed mixin disabling for modules |
| 04:36.56 | ckknight | ~moredots |
| 04:36.58 | purl | FIFTY DKP MINUS!! |
| 04:38.04 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r4459 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-3.lua: Ace2/TestSuite - added AceModuleCore-3.lua |
| 04:39.12 | kergoth | Kaelten: well, the regular bank frame seems to still come up as well as onebank, here |
| 04:40.01 | Kaelten | do textures show up on the slots for the actual bank bag? |
| 04:40.18 | kergoth | dunno yet, playing a char that has an empty bank. new alt |
| 04:41.27 | Kaelten | ok thats a weird fucking conflict, OneView stops it from loading apparently.... |
| 04:41.38 | Kaelten | or at least the textures from loading |
| 04:42.50 | Kaelten | aha! |
| 04:42.51 | Kaelten | got it |
| 04:42.58 | Kaelten | that was nasty |
| 04:43.16 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4460 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: AceAddon - now checks right before OnEnable for :IsActive() |
| 04:43.19 | Tekkub | appears to work now ckk |
| 04:43.26 | ckknight | almost done |
| 04:43.31 | ckknight | still not 100% working |
| 04:43.41 | Tekkub | okey, it wan the event clearing that I just tested |
| 04:43.45 | kergoth | oneview? |
| 04:43.58 | Tekkub | you know Kael... |
| 04:43.59 | Tekkub | y |
| 04:44.06 | Tekkub | you have to... |
| 04:44.11 | Kaelten | OneView will allow remote bank/alt viewing |
| 04:44.12 | Tekkub | you must... |
| 04:44.21 | Kaelten | I have to I must? |
| 04:44.27 | Tekkub | One* needs a keyring module, you can't do without it... |
| 04:44.47 | Kaelten | I'm not sure what the keyring module would do though |
| 04:44.50 | Kaelten | ? |
| 04:44.54 | Tekkub | OneRing |
| 04:45.00 | Kaelten | but what would it do? |
| 04:45.08 | Tekkub | find a reason |
| 04:45.14 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:45.17 | Tekkub | I'm sure you can think one up |
| 04:45.37 | Kaelten | the only thing I can think of is to force the keyringframe to look like the rest of the One* frames |
| 04:45.45 | Tekkub | :) |
| 04:45.50 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:45.55 | Kaelten | after OneView |
| 04:46.05 | Gngsk | make it look like an actual ring |
| 04:46.07 | Gngsk | instead of just a bag |
| 04:46.16 | kergoth | what the hell |
| 04:46.21 | kergoth | if i mouse over my arrows, they look fine |
| 04:46.25 | kergoth | if i mouse over my arrows in the equipped slot |
| 04:46.34 | kergoth | mendy shows that my rough arrows are gathered by skinning, and used by leatherworking |
| 04:46.45 | Kaelten | lmao |
| 04:46.50 | Kaelten | that sounds like a bug to me |
| 04:49.53 | Tekkub | hrm... the not unregistering thing seems to crop up if I mixin AceConsole into the module |
| 04:50.08 | Tekkub | *note to self* never mix AceConsole into a module |
| 04:50.39 | Tekkub | wait maybe not |
| 04:54.04 | Tekkub | nevermind! |
| 05:01.16 | Kaelten | well OneView is *working* except that you can't tell it which character to look at, and you can't make it show on demand, or much of anything else, but it displays everything from your inv/bank on load :) |
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| 05:16.45 | Amadeo | :D |
| 05:16.48 | Amadeo | Thrae still awake? |
| 05:27.57 | Kaelten | gnight guys |
| 05:28.10 | KaeltenAway | see you all in the morning |
| 05:29.18 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r4461 10OneBag/ (OneBag.lua OneBag.xml templates.xml): OneBag - tweaks. |
| 05:29.19 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r4462 10OneBank/ (OneBank.lua OneBank.xml): OneBank - tweaks |
| 05:29.22 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r4463 10OneView/ (OneStorage.lua OneView.lua OneView.xml): OneView - Nightly commit, partially functional. |
| 05:29.32 | ckknight | back |
| 05:29.34 | Amadeo | night Kaelten |
| 05:29.37 | ckknight | man, Californians suck |
| 05:29.42 | Amadeo | hi ckknight |
| 05:29.48 | Amadeo | Especially Arnold |
| 05:30.08 | FryGuy | back :p |
| 05:30.26 | FryGuy | ckknight: sorry, i didn't mean to ignore you.. i was getting ready to go get food :/ |
| 05:30.36 | ckknight | alright |
| 05:30.49 | ckknight | Amadeo, it's mostly Californians that come to Hawaii |
| 05:30.58 | ckknight | you know, the smug folks with too much money |
| 05:31.04 | FryGuy | hey :( |
| 05:31.05 | ckknight | that pretend they're European |
| 05:31.06 | ckknight | and care |
| 05:31.12 | ckknight | but they're self-centered fucks |
| 05:31.17 | FryGuy | don't say bad things about californians |
| 05:31.21 | ckknight | all with fake breasts and implants |
| 05:31.33 | ckknight | too loud for their own good |
| 05:31.38 | FryGuy | ... |
| 05:31.43 | ckknight | imposing wrong values on their children |
| 05:31.57 | ckknight | driving cars outside of their means, but feeling like they deserve it |
| 05:32.36 | hyperChipmunk | E |
| 05:32.48 | ckknight | driving hybrids because it "helps the environment", and can feel better about it because they're then superior to the common SUV-driving clearly-evil soccer mom |
| 05:32.50 | FryGuy | YOU'RE WRONG! |
| 05:33.13 | ckknight | FryGuy, how so? |
| 05:33.32 | FryGuy | stereotyping :/ |
| 05:33.40 | FryGuy | not all jetta owners like yoga |
| 05:33.56 | ckknight | oh, I forgot about the yoga deal |
| 05:33.57 | gnorlish | i've been to cali and he's right |
| 05:34.02 | gnorlish | even the dudes had fake tits |
| 05:34.16 | FryGuy | wtf i don't know what you're talking about |
| 05:34.20 | ckknight | note: I'm just talking from experience |
| 05:34.20 | FryGuy | nobody I know has fake breasts :/ |
| 05:34.30 | ckknight | granted, I only have experience with transplanted Californians |
| 05:34.35 | ckknight | granted, there are a lot here |
| 05:34.55 | FryGuy | probably people from LA :P |
| 05:35.09 | gnorlish | i was in LA last month, quite the mix of people |
| 05:35.15 | gnorlish | i'm moving there in a couple weeks |
| 05:35.41 | ckknight | likely, FryGuy |
| 05:35.42 | FryGuy | and I see like 3 hybrids |
| 05:35.57 | ckknight | I'm talking about city Californians |
| 05:36.02 | FryGuy | I live in sacramento |
| 05:36.03 | ckknight | the ones from San Francisco and LA |
| 05:36.08 | ckknight | not Sacramento so much |
| 05:36.59 | FryGuy | but anyways |
| 05:37.10 | FryGuy | sorry about not responding to you about dewdrop :/ |
| 05:37.24 | ckknight | this came up cause some Californian asshole honked at me |
| 05:37.36 | FryGuy | hah |
| 05:37.40 | FryGuy | you've never been to utah |
| 05:37.43 | gnorlish | where do you live ck |
| 05:37.45 | FryGuy | http://www.burntpopcorn.net/images/wow/WoWScrnShot_070906_205546.jpg |
| 05:37.47 | ckknight | Hawaii |
| 05:37.57 | ckknight | turns out going the speed limit wasn't fast enough for him |
| 05:38.15 | gnorlish | you have roads out there?!? |
| 05:38.21 | gnorlish | i thought it was all tribesmen and volcanoes |
| 05:38.22 | FryGuy | haha |
| 05:38.26 | FryGuy | that's what I was thinking gnorlish |
| 05:38.37 | gnorlish | i bet he's making it all up |
| 05:38.42 | FryGuy | yep |
| 05:38.49 | FryGuy | all hawaiians are tribesmen :p |
| 05:39.16 | ckknight | dude, Hawaiians suck |
| 05:39.23 | ckknight | they drain the economy of this island |
| 05:39.31 | ckknight | welfare assholes... |
| 05:39.41 | ckknight | note: not all are like that |
| 05:39.41 | gnorlish | i bet you hold them down |
| 05:39.44 | gnorlish | whitey |
| 05:39.46 | ckknight | I've met a damn fine few |
| 05:39.56 | ckknight | gnorlish, they hold themselves down |
| 05:40.05 | ckknight | if they wanted decent jobs, they'd learn English. |
| 05:40.17 | ckknight | they have their own form of Ebonics, called Pidgin, here |
| 05:40.33 | gnorlish | i met a hawaiian at purdue a few years ago |
| 05:40.37 | gnorlish | he was the size of a large door |
| 05:40.43 | gnorlish | and jolly |
| 05:40.46 | ckknight | yep |
| 05:40.57 | ckknight | note: he is a fringe case |
| 05:41.19 | ckknight | Hawaii has a horrible school system |
| 05:41.24 | ckknight | 49th, just above Kentucky |
| 05:41.31 | gnorlish | get bill gates over there! |
| 05:41.40 | gnorlish | that boy loves to screw with school systems |
| 05:41.43 | ckknight | he already rented out Niihau a few times. |
| 05:41.54 | ckknight | had a weekend party |
| 05:42.05 | ckknight | he rented half the whole island :-P |
| 05:44.02 | ckknight | oh well, either way, most of the Hawaiians here will never end up doing anything :-P |
| 05:44.12 | ckknight | granted, you could say that about most Americans |
| 05:44.23 | ckknight | but I think the percentages might be a bit skewed |
| 05:46.41 | ckknight | note: I'm not trying to be racist or anything, everyone has their faults :-P |
| 05:48.06 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4464 10Ace2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): AceAddon - now checks addons to see if they are modules to check their active state and whether to call :OnEnable() |
| 05:48.13 | ckknight | okay, Tek |
| 05:52.01 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r4465 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-4.lua: Ace2/TestSuite - added AceModuleCore-4.lua |
| 05:52.27 | Tekkub | :) |
| 05:53.19 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:54.10 | ckknight | now I just have to solve FryGuy's issue |
| 05:54.19 | ckknight | Tekkub, have you started AceComm yet? |
| 05:54.21 | *** join/#wowace Mabus (n=chatzill@44.80-202-38.nextgentel.com) |
| 05:54.26 | ckknight | hey Mabus |
| 05:54.41 | Tekkub | fiddling with a bit of code, why you want a new project? |
| 05:54.41 | Mabus | hey ckknight |
| 05:55.03 | ckknight | Tekkub, I want the framework already in place before I start adding the complicated stuff |
| 05:55.11 | ckknight | like datagrams and serialization of objects |
| 05:55.34 | ckknight | Mabus, don't think I know you |
| 05:55.45 | ckknight | hey, Industrial must've disconnected |
| 05:55.48 | ckknight | he lost his voice |
| 05:55.56 | Mabus | ckknight: me neither :) |
| 05:56.04 | Mabus | you said hi, so I said hi |
| 05:56.08 | ckknight | Mabus, alright, you go first |
| 05:56.18 | Tekkub | well that's why I was thinking two different libraries ckk |
| 05:56.22 | Mabus | ckknight: In FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua:lib:RegisterForLoad(), you check |if not self.frame then| and inside that if you try to access self.frame:GetName(), which causes a "try to index field 'frame' (a nil value)" |
| 05:56.29 | ckknight | Tekkub, nah, I think 1 lib :-P |
| 05:56.32 | Mabus | at line 1446 |
| 05:56.37 | Tekkub | bah |
| 05:56.43 | Tekkub | fine AceComm it is |
| 05:56.43 | ckknight | Mabus, k. |
| 05:57.02 | ckknight | Mabus, ah, I see. |
| 05:57.19 | Mabus | ckknight: I've had this error for a while, so just thought I'd pop by and check if you were here to tell you. |
| 05:57.40 | Mabus | ckknight: I left a comment in the wowinterface FuBar entry a while ago but didn't get any responses. |
| 05:57.54 | ckknight | yea, I've been busy writing Ace2 |
| 05:58.04 | Mabus | :) |
| 05:59.15 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4466 10FuBarPlugin-1.2/Lib/FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua: FuBarPlugin-1.2 - fixed the icky nil bug. |
| 05:59.23 | ckknight | there we go |
| 05:59.31 | Mabus | thanks alot |
| 05:59.57 | XLVII | [c=#A435EE]Tome of the Ice Lord[/c] |
| 06:00.02 | XLVII | doesn't work, damn it. |
| 06:00.11 | ckknight | k? |
| 06:00.21 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07FuBarPlugin-1.2 * r4467 10FuBar/FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua: FuBarPlugin-1.2 - fixed the icky nil bug. |
| 06:00.49 | ckknight | Mabus, so you just a user, then? |
| 06:01.09 | Mabus | ckknight: I work as a programmer but yeah, just a user for now. |
| 06:01.15 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 06:01.53 | Mabus | just updating my addons that have the FuBarPlugin now and I'll log in to see how it works. |
| 06:02.01 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:02.03 | ckknight | hopefully it will |
| 06:02.11 | ckknight | I've been busy working on libs and such |
| 06:02.16 | ckknight | and messing with FuBar2 |
| 06:04.53 | Mabus | yeah I read the SVN log :) |
| 06:05.01 | Mabus | nice, no errors on login |
| 06:05.22 | Mabus | hm |
| 06:05.31 | ckknight | hm? |
| 06:06.02 | ckknight | hehe, according to http://cia.navi.cx/ , Ace is more active than KDE for today ;-) |
| 06:06.04 | Mabus | mousing over the FuBar_MrPlowFu plugin gives me a "AddOns\FuBar\FuBar.lua:1638: attempt to index a nil value" |
| 06:06.09 | Mabus | did not happen with the last revision |
| 06:06.19 | ckknight | and I'm the most active person |
| 06:06.19 | Mabus | I know, it's cool :) |
| 06:06.43 | Mabus | I bet some guys around in the large open source projects are wondering what this "Ace thing" is :) |
| 06:07.14 | ckknight | we need an icon, at least |
| 06:07.27 | ckknight | clad|sleep, we should get an icon for ace on the CIA page |
| 06:10.03 | Tekkub | crkk, were you the one that put the throttle info on the protocol? |
| 06:10.10 | Tekkub | *ckk |
| 06:10.17 | ckknight | yes, |
| 06:10.25 | *** join/#wowace hyperChipmunk (n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 06:10.27 | ckknight | under the advice or wereHamster |
| 06:10.29 | Tekkub | where'd you get the numbers? |
| 06:10.32 | ckknight | AL |
| 06:10.47 | Tekkub | *unsatisfied look* |
| 06:10.50 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:11.00 | ckknight | if you're willing to do testing, that's cool |
| 06:11.01 | Tekkub | 0.4 delay seems rather... massive |
| 06:11.20 | ckknight | but think that you can send 255 chars each time |
| 06:11.21 | hyperChipmunk | numbers for what? |
| 06:11.30 | Tekkub | yea well this Hazelwood guy in the thread seems overly concerned with bandwidth... |
| 06:11.31 | ckknight | Comm protocol throttling |
| 06:11.35 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 06:11.38 | Tekkub | I mean... it's fucking text... |
| 06:11.38 | hyperChipmunk | that sounds about right |
| 06:12.00 | ckknight | AL said WoW can sustain 500 bytes outgoing / second |
| 06:12.09 | Tekkub | maybe it should be variable rate based on string.len? |
| 06:12.17 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:12.24 | ckknight | that actually could be a good idea :-P |
| 06:12.26 | hyperChipmunk | that would coincide with the 255bytes/0.4s |
| 06:12.38 | ckknight | do 500 bytes/sec |
| 06:12.41 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:12.44 | Tekkub | so you can send 10 25-char messages in the same timeframe as one 250-char |
| 06:12.44 | ckknight | I hadn't thought of that |
| 06:12.51 | ckknight | good |
| 06:12.54 | ckknight | update the protocol |
| 06:13.05 | ckknight | but go with 500 bytes / second |
| 06:13.07 | ckknight | at least for now |
| 06:13.21 | Tekkub | how big is a char? 1 byte? |
| 06:13.24 | ckknight | yes. |
| 06:13.40 | Tekkub | *ponder* |
| 06:14.02 | Tekkub | so instead of last send, we can calc a time for next send |
| 06:14.13 | ckknight | save the time of last send |
| 06:14.28 | ckknight | then do a calculation of the next time you can send |
| 06:14.28 | Tekkub | time and size? |
| 06:14.39 | ckknight | protocol only saves time |
| 06:14.47 | ckknight | say you want to send 250 bytes: |
| 06:15.08 | ckknight | that means you need a half second wait |
| 06:15.20 | ckknight | if you want to send 50 bytes, that means you need a 0.1 second wait |
| 06:15.28 | Tekkub | nexttime = GetTime() + string.len(msg)/500 |
| 06:15.34 | Mabus | ckknight: It seems all fubar plugins have their self.panel (lib:GetPanel()) set to |nil| in FuBar.lua:FuBar:OnAceProfileLoaded(), so FuBar.lua:Panel_OnEnter() will always give a "attempt to index a nil value" for |if type(plugin) == "table" then| ? |
| 06:15.58 | Mabus | I don't know the code well enough to debug this issue. |
| 06:16.05 | ckknight | Mabus, yea, looking at that |
| 06:16.19 | Mabus | ckknight: okay, cool |
| 06:16.26 | Tekkub | okey so save time of last send and delay till next? |
| 06:17.04 | Tekkub | it seems simpler to me to just calc the next valid time and save that each time you send a message |
| 06:17.30 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4468 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar-1.2 - fix nil bug |
| 06:17.39 | ckknight | Tekkub, only need to save next |
| 06:17.44 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r4469 10TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTipAnchor.lua): TinyTip: New database, should migrate smoothly. Small fixes. |
| 06:18.07 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 06:18.14 | ckknight | Mabus, try |
| 06:18.20 | Tekkub | gonna write up a metro timer and test this stuff :) |
| 06:18.20 | Mabus | trying now |
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| 06:19.14 | ckknight | Tekkub, I'd actually use a standard OnUpdate frame and check the time every frame |
| 06:19.25 | ckknight | or use metrognome and check every frame |
| 06:21.07 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r4471 10TinyTipOptions/: TinyTipOptions: AceLibrary external fixed. |
| 06:21.56 | ckknight | Tekkub, just know that we want AceComm to be part of Ace, and not explicitly depend on outside libs. Which either means it should be self-contained or Metrognome becomes part of Ace core |
| 06:22.03 | ckknight | which I'm really not opposed to the latter |
| 06:22.13 | Mabus | ckknight: Yeah, cool, you just have to fix the error in FuBar:Panel_OnLeave, too. |
| 06:22.20 | Mabus | ckknight: Same thing there. |
| 06:23.26 | Tekkub | It won't use anything but AceEvent |
| 06:23.27 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4472 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar-1.2 - fix nil bug in Panel_OnLeave |
| 06:23.32 | ckknight | Tekkub, okay |
| 06:23.44 | Mabus | okay, updating |
| 06:25.31 | Mabus | ckknight: thanks alot |
| 06:25.51 | ckknight | Mabus, just know, the best way to get me to do something is to come here, and tell the explicit error |
| 06:26.03 | ckknight | or provide a .diff |
| 06:26.16 | ckknight | or whatever |
| 06:26.21 | ckknight | the easiest way to reach me is here |
| 06:26.25 | ckknight | for future reference |
| 06:26.41 | Mabus | yeah I figured, just thought I would mention it in the wowinterface entry to see if others were experiencing the problem before bothering you with it |
| 06:27.07 | Elkano | ckknight, GloryLib once again calculated the bg weekends wrong :/ |
| 06:27.13 | Mabus | noone was, but I was so sure that it was not a savedvariables issue, so I decided to bother you anyway :P |
| 06:27.13 | ckknight | Elkano, blah. |
| 06:27.27 | ckknight | Mabus, don't feel bad about bothering me |
| 06:27.29 | Elkano | I know, blame Blizzard ^^ |
| 06:27.40 | ckknight | Elkano, yea. |
| 06:28.03 | Amadeo | Thrae: The anchoring still isn't working right :( |
| 06:28.59 | Amadeo | the tooltip has like two default positions, and it switches when you start to set the offset |
| 06:30.41 | Amadeo | I'll take screenshots since I can't really explain it |
| 06:32.35 | Mabus | Tekkub: I'm guessing you already know, but scaling the BigWigs Timex bars do not work anymore. I know it has changed drastically with 2.0, so I'm not sure if you want to spend time on it anyway, but just thought I'd mention it. |
| 06:33.04 | Tekkub | scale was working fine for me last time I looked at it |
| 06:33.12 | Tekkub | but yea, don't care :) |
| 06:33.16 | Mabus | :) |
| 06:34.11 | Amadeo | I don't think I've ever seen Tekkub care when something is broken :P |
| 06:34.27 | ckknight | hehe |
| 06:35.04 | Tekkub | nah, it's usually a case of "works for me..." |
| 06:35.11 | Tekkub | at which point I stop caring |
| 06:35.43 | Tekkub | well, I can sustain a rate of 500 chars/sec right now... |
| 06:35.47 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:36.50 | Amadeo | Thrae: Here's TinyTip at default settings - http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8792/default5bp.jpg ... and here's TinyTip with *only* offy at 30 - http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/5108/offy308xk.jpg |
| 06:37.16 | Amadeo | For some reason it's offsetting x along with y? |
| 06:37.32 | Amadeo | My cursor is right over the NPC |
| 06:39.06 | Elkano | ckknight, could it be that the algo for the bg weekends in GloryLib is wrong? seems like AV is starting every first friday in month |
| 06:39.29 | Elkano | ok, that's wrong, too :/ |
| 06:39.30 | Thrae | Amadeo: When you set the anchor to be CURSOR without an offset, it will tell the game engine to use ANCHOR_CURSOR. If you set an offset, it will then reset the position again relative to the screen and your offsets every frame. I'll fiddle with it and see if I can compensate for the difference. |
| 06:39.58 | Amadeo | Thrae: I just remember that one of the SVN updates you changed the default positioning of the tooltip |
| 06:40.15 | Amadeo | and it seems to be going there by default once you use an offset, and then offsetting from the new point rather than the real default |
| 06:40.54 | Amadeo | I think the tooltip default position should be like it is in the first pic, so the offsets make more sense |
| 06:41.07 | Tekkub | interesting.... |
| 06:41.15 | Tekkub | I'm NOT sustaining a 500 char rate |
| 06:41.34 | Tekkub | I have it sent to send for 10 seconds... |
| 06:41.48 | Tekkub | but it's taking 23-24 seconds to send |
| 06:42.08 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 06:42.19 | ckknight | try a lower rate? |
| 06:42.20 | Elkano | ok, bg weekends seem to be independant from month now... av, wsg, ab, free, av, ... |
| 06:42.33 | ckknight | Elkano, gah, really? |
| 06:42.35 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r4473 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.lua: AuldLangSyne: A few more changes to account for updated RegisterDefaults. |
| 06:42.41 | ckknight | why do they have to keep changing it? |
| 06:42.50 | Elkano | well, if you check the event calender |
| 06:42.58 | Elkano | eg september has two av weekends |
| 06:42.59 | Amadeo | Thrae: Wish I could help more, but even what you just said to me is greek :) |
| 06:43.01 | ckknight | event calendar used to be wrong. |
| 06:43.09 | Tekkub | but if I drop the target rate down to 250 char/second it takes 12.25 sec to send 10 seconds worth of data... |
| 06:43.13 | Elkano | well, it seems to be matching again |
| 06:43.23 | Elkano | since this we was av |
| 06:43.37 | Amadeo | Where's a good place to mine thorium? the little ones...I can't mine the rich ones yet or whatever |
| 06:43.40 | ckknight | Tekkub, what about 20 secs of data? |
| 06:44.01 | Tekkub | one sec, testing with 200 |
| 06:44.02 | Mabus | Thrae: Is the fading of TinyTip supposed to work when anchor=CURSOR? It works for me here if anchor=Game's Default, I haven't tried the others. |
| 06:44.26 | Tekkub | now at 200 it took 17.5 for 10... |
| 06:44.28 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 06:44.30 | ckknight | ... |
| 06:44.36 | ckknight | try at longer times |
| 06:44.40 | ckknight | more accurate that way |
| 06:44.48 | ckknight | set it to 500 chars/sec |
| 06:44.50 | ckknight | and do 30 secs |
| 06:45.00 | Tekkub | trying 20 secs worth at 100/sec |
| 06:45.24 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=MoonWolf@a80-127-128-193.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 06:45.24 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 06:45.30 | ckknight | hey Mr. Wolf |
| 06:46.00 | ckknight | FryGuy, here? |
| 06:46.09 | Tekkub | I wonder if it's the fact that it doesn't aways send at the exact rate I'm defining... |
| 06:46.13 | Tekkub | *uses longer time |
| 06:46.42 | Tekkub | 500/sec across a full minute... |
| 06:46.43 | MoonWolf | morning every person here. |
| 06:47.00 | Tekkub | god I should get to bed soon |
| 06:47.21 | MoonWolf | perhaps you should |
| 06:47.54 | MoonWolf | how is hubby ? does he have any job hunting motivation ? |
| 06:48.14 | Tekkub | heh, he's prolly gonna end up at my stupid fast food place |
| 06:48.22 | Tekkub | unless he finds something better within a week |
| 06:48.58 | MoonWolf | great a gay couple working at the same place. |
| 06:49.04 | Tekkub | I don't think it's POSSIBLE for me to get kicked for flooding... I'm gonna have to up the rate and see |
| 06:49.09 | MoonWolf | don' t shock the youngsters to much. |
| 06:49.10 | ckknight | that's ripe for comedy |
| 06:49.26 | Tekkub | I was making a sundae the other day and I lost my cherry |
| 06:49.41 | MoonWolf | ... |
| 06:49.45 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 06:49.51 | ckknight | ... |
| 06:49.52 | Tekkub | that 60 sec of data took 189 sec |
| 06:50.00 | ckknight | at what rate? |
| 06:50.06 | Tekkub | I think the game has taken to throttling messages itsself |
| 06:50.12 | MoonWolf | hmmmm |
| 06:50.26 | MoonWolf | how about you try a truely evil rate |
| 06:50.31 | ckknight | Tekkub, hrm... |
| 06:50.31 | Tekkub | ~160 char/sec |
| 06:50.34 | MoonWolf | just take out the throttle |
| 06:50.52 | ckknight | wtf, 160 chars per sec? |
| 06:51.00 | Tekkub | gonna try 50000 for 10 sec |
| 06:51.00 | XLVII | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-2844-1-hunterloot.html < funniest addon ever. |
| 06:51.03 | Tekkub | *braces* |
| 06:51.06 | ckknight | hehe |
| 06:51.16 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 06:51.24 | MoonWolf | kinda like my mendeleev april first joke |
| 06:51.29 | Tekkub | I must be limited by my framerate here or somethin :) |
| 06:51.30 | ckknight | what's that? |
| 06:51.39 | *** join/#wowace Shyva (n=n0time@sd511586e.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 06:51.45 | ckknight | Tekkub, pastebin code so I can test |
| 06:52.02 | Tekkub | well I didn't get kicked there |
| 06:52.10 | MoonWolf | why would communication be limited to framerate..... |
| 06:52.14 | Tekkub | and it's still running, kek |
| 06:52.35 | Tekkub | Moon: cause I'm using metro to trigger sending |
| 06:52.41 | MoonWolf | aha |
| 06:52.51 | MoonWolf | what is your current rate ? |
| 06:52.55 | Tekkub | I'm gonna try a mass send at once and break the limit :) |
| 06:52.59 | FryGuy | ya i'm here ckknight |
| 06:53.03 | Tekkub | ~160 char/sec |
| 06:53.04 | FryGuy | say my name without a space after it :p |
| 06:53.06 | FryGuy | FryGuy |
| 06:53.08 | Tekkub | sending 10-char messages |
| 06:53.15 | Tekkub | so I'm gonna kick it up |
| 06:53.27 | ckknight | FryGuy, I figured it out now, getting the same thing as you |
| 06:53.29 | FryGuy | it'll annoy me and I'll see it :p |
| 06:53.31 | MoonWolf | it has to be possible to get kicked. |
| 06:53.46 | MoonWolf | i did a lot of time with mendeleevs chat report functionality |
| 06:53.50 | ckknight | Tekkub, what if you send 250-char messages? |
| 06:53.55 | MoonWolf | and took it out for later redoing because of that. |
| 06:54.07 | ckknight | MoonWolf, maybe they fixed it in a patch? |
| 06:54.12 | MoonWolf | could be |
| 06:54.21 | MoonWolf | have not done any chat code after 1.11 |
| 06:54.39 | Tekkub | sending 100-char ones right now |
| 06:54.52 | Tekkub | I hit 200 char/sec almost spot on |
| 06:55.01 | Tekkub | 10.28 sec |
| 06:55.07 | Tekkub | for 10sec worth |
| 06:56.18 | Tekkub | testing with 400 got me 361/sec |
| 06:58.24 | Tekkub | 693/sec... |
| 06:58.28 | Tekkub | *boggle* |
| 06:58.57 | Tekkub | it seems lots of smaller messages take more time to send than a few big ones :) |
| 06:59.24 | ckknight | Tekk, I got 3072 chars / sec |
| 06:59.40 | MoonWolf | wow |
| 06:59.40 | ckknight | sending 10000 chars in 250-char packets |
| 06:59.49 | MoonWolf | its hard to get kicked then. |
| 07:00.04 | ckknight | let's see if I send 100k |
| 07:00.04 | Tekkub | I think throttling isn't gonna be needed... |
| 07:00.23 | Tekkub | you doing those periodically or all at once ckk? |
| 07:00.47 | ckknight | all at once! |
| 07:00.51 | mjc | my tank friend finds archud annoying |
| 07:00.53 | mjc | how odd |
| 07:00.55 | ckknight | okay, got disconnected |
| 07:00.58 | ckknight | at about 50k chars |
| 07:01.01 | MoonWolf | so it IS possible |
| 07:01.01 | Tekkub | I just pulled 2140char/sec |
| 07:01.04 | MoonWolf | only hard to do. |
| 07:01.09 | ckknight | also, my framerate went to hell |
| 07:01.18 | ckknight | I think we _should_ have throttling |
| 07:01.39 | MoonWolf | i agree |
| 07:01.39 | Tekkub | 50k? I think it's safe to expect that normal chat isn't gonna hit that ever |
| 07:01.45 | ckknight | it nearly froze my game, though |
| 07:01.52 | Tekkub | so what's a safe throttle rate? |
| 07:01.59 | ckknight | 1000 chars / sec? |
| 07:02.00 | MoonWolf | 250 / s ? |
| 07:02.13 | Tekkub | 1000 sounds pleny sefficient to me |
| 07:02.17 | MoonWolf | 250 chars a sec should be enough for everyone! |
| 07:02.19 | Tekkub | er... |
| 07:02.21 | Tekkub | yea... |
| 07:02.22 | mjc | sufficient |
| 07:02.28 | MoonWolf | don' tmind me. |
| 07:02.44 | ckknight | 640 KiB should be enough for anyone! |
| 07:02.46 | Tekkub | Moon, 250 was what we were thinking back at the start when we thought it was like, an issue :) |
| 07:02.51 | MoonWolf | ah |
| 07:02.53 | MoonWolf | right |
| 07:03.04 | MoonWolf | 1000 it is then. |
| 07:03.28 | ckknight | we should figure out how expensive it is to send 1 byte |
| 07:03.28 | Tekkub | 1000 * 40 people == 320 kilobit/sec |
| 07:03.53 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:03.53 | ckknight | might be an issue, there... |
| 07:03.54 | MoonWolf | i have another issue |
| 07:03.55 | ckknight | maybe we should have it at 250 B/s |
| 07:04.01 | ckknight | MoonWolf, yea? |
| 07:04.07 | MoonWolf | how much can the client process incomming for it not to effect the gameplay |
| 07:04.21 | MoonWolf | wait, you said that already |
| 07:04.25 | MoonWolf | ignore me. |
| 07:04.34 | Tekkub | moon: run threat meter and damage meter with 40 other players running it and see? |
| 07:04.42 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r4474 10TinyTip/ (6 files): TinyTip: Renamed TinyTipIcons.lua to TinyTipExtras.lua. CURSOR offsets will now start at the bottom instead of bottomleft. |
| 07:04.44 | ckknight | 250 * 40 == 20 KiB/s |
| 07:04.56 | ckknight | which would be at the highest end, pretty much |
| 07:05.00 | Tekkub | god I hate talking in transfer rates... |
| 07:05.08 | Tekkub | what's "acceptable" |
| 07:05.18 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:05.24 | Tekkub | are we at a consensus that modem user are not worthy? |
| 07:05.28 | MoonWolf | acceptable is when you don' t notice an effect during playing. |
| 07:05.29 | Tekkub | DSL or better only :) |
| 07:05.41 | ckknight | yea, you shouldn't "notice" the spam |
| 07:05.43 | ckknight | basically |
| 07:05.58 | MoonWolf | if your ui is hanging because of message handeling time |
| 07:06.10 | Tekkub | I honestly think it's more a design point that the comm protocol... |
| 07:06.16 | MoonWolf | then you crossed the acceptabilit line. |
| 07:06.18 | Tekkub | mods should keep comm to a minimum |
| 07:06.33 | Tekkub | which basically makes everything but realtime comm fine... |
| 07:06.40 | Tekkub | and what's realtime? COMBAT! |
| 07:06.54 | Tekkub | what are people gonna wanna realy in combat? |
| 07:06.59 | Tekkub | threat and damage |
| 07:07.17 | ckknight | maybe we should set the rate arbitrarily low |
| 07:07.22 | Tekkub | so the meters are gonna be an issue regardless of how they are implemented :) |
| 07:07.23 | ckknight | like 100 Bytes / second |
| 07:07.32 | ckknight | frankly, I think that could be reasonable. |
| 07:07.42 | Tekkub | 100 char a second... |
| 07:07.52 | MoonWolf | talk in chars please. |
| 07:07.58 | ckknight | bytes = chars. |
| 07:07.59 | Tekkub | you know, ckk, you're most qualified on this |
| 07:08.04 | ckknight | probably. |
| 07:08.07 | Tekkub | you're the one designing a complex library |
| 07:08.19 | Tekkub | I just want to relay sync string in BigWigs :) |
| 07:08.20 | MoonWolf | hmmm |
| 07:08.28 | Tekkub | and I know that works already |
| 07:08.29 | ckknight | messages should be kept to a minimum |
| 07:08.30 | MoonWolf | has al replied to your inflammetory post you made yesterday ? |
| 07:08.34 | mjc | Tekkub: yay |
| 07:08.37 | ckknight | typically using memoization anyway |
| 07:08.47 | ckknight | so most messages should be in the 50-char range |
| 07:08.48 | Tekkub | no moon, and I don't care if he does |
| 07:08.57 | ckknight | which means 2 messages per second globally |
| 07:08.59 | Tekkub | I'm fairly certain Sky won't use this protocol |
| 07:09.10 | MoonWolf | yay |
| 07:09.14 | MoonWolf | go outdate yourself sky |
| 07:09.18 | MoonWolf | we don' t like you anyway. |
| 07:09.29 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 07:09.31 | Tekkub | ckk: post your findings to the thread and adjust the wiki as needed, I trust your judgement on a rate |
| 07:09.36 | Tekkub | on that, I'm going to bed |
| 07:09.37 | Elkano | btw: there isn't any addon that will tell you which addon is resposible for the current garbage increase, is there? |
| 07:09.39 | ckknight | okay |
| 07:09.46 | MoonWolf | wait, why don' t we ask cide what he thinks ctra takes in transfers during a boss fight ? |
| 07:09.54 | Thrae | Elkano: I wish. |
| 07:09.58 | Tekkub | CTRA? not a lot |
| 07:10.05 | mjc | just use transcriptor |
| 07:10.07 | mjc | :p |
| 07:10.10 | Tekkub | it sends more "on demand" messages than realtime |
| 07:10.25 | Tekkub | like, res note, queries for ready or dura.. |
| 07:10.28 | MoonWolf | yeah |
| 07:10.29 | MoonWolf | k |
| 07:10.35 | Thrae | Unfortunately there's not a real reliable way you can do that. A lot of addons work by events. |
| 07:10.49 | Tekkub | damage and threat meters are the only realtime comm I can think of honestly |
| 07:11.25 | MoonWolf | well i can think of two more, flagrsp (character discriptions and other rp stuff) and itemdb's item sharing. |
| 07:11.44 | Tekkub | Elk: it's possible to iterate the global namespace and wrap every function in a profile shell... but I don't think you wanna do that... |
| 07:11.58 | MoonWolf | i think those work realtime , i KNOW flagrsp has some background chatter going around all the time |
| 07:12.00 | Tekkub | I'd reccomend toying with my FuBar DebugProfiler |
| 07:12.06 | Elkano | so no good way to fin which addon let's it jump from 3kb to 40kb :/ |
| 07:12.12 | Elkano | hmm, I could try |
| 07:12.27 | MoonWolf | flagrsp could make good use of the global channel |
| 07:12.31 | Tekkub | I'll root up frames using a lot of mem or time on events, just ignore the AceEventFrame as all ace mods are reflected there... |
| 07:12.36 | MoonWolf | i' ll contact the authors when the protocol is done. |
| 07:12.50 | Tekkub | but I'm gonna add display of AceEvent-2.0's profile data there.. |
| 07:13.02 | Thrae | MoonWolf: FlagRSP is excessive, the author of MyRoleplay (the successor to FlagRSP) says his has a LOT less chatter...but it needs to use two channels because of the high traffic from flagRSP's channels. |
| 07:13.18 | MoonWolf | hmmm |
| 07:13.22 | MoonWolf | we need to outdate flagrsp |
| 07:13.24 | Mabus | Thrae: Did you see my question or should I repeat? |
| 07:13.25 | MoonWolf | get rid of it |
| 07:13.34 | Thrae | Mabus: Please repeat. |
| 07:13.35 | Tekkub | okey.. bed, really... |
| 07:13.38 | MoonWolf | get myroleplay to use this protocol. |
| 07:13.40 | Mabus | Thrae: Is the fading of TinyTip supposed to work when anchor=CURSOR? It works for me here if anchor=Game's Default, I haven't tried the others. |
| 07:13.42 | Thrae | MoonWolf: That's the intent of MyRoleplay. |
| 07:14.05 | MoonWolf | and then I can implement a lightweight version of myroleplay that uses yust a small frame for people and nothing else. |
| 07:14.16 | Thrae | Mabus: No, there is no fading with anchor == CURSOR, this is the default for the game engine. |
| 07:14.17 | MoonWolf | because i dislike the STUFF it provides |
| 07:15.06 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r4475 10TinyTipOptions/ (TinyTipChatLocale_enEN.lua TinyTipOptions.lua): TinyTipOptions: Fixed missing function checks, and reevaluated English wording. |
| 07:15.08 | Mabus | Thrae: Aha. |
| 07:15.20 | Mabus | Thrae: Somehow, TipBuddy did that. |
| 07:16.18 | Thrae | Mabus: TipBuddy made its own Tooltip object inheriting GameTooltipTemplate and used its own OnUpdate script to allow or disallow fading. Do you really want TinyTip to do that just to disallow fading? ;) |
| 07:16.34 | Mabus | Thrae: :P |
| 07:16.57 | Thrae | Anyway, I could add the option in to ALWAYS fade, it's trivial. |
| 07:17.16 | Mabus | I really need fade, it's impossible to read the tooltip in .2sec |
| 07:17.37 | Thrae | OK, give me a sec. |
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| 07:21.20 | hyperChipmunk | 03:20 < AnduinLothar> something like that |
| 07:21.20 | hyperChipmunk | 03:20 < AnduinLothar> ChatEdit was fun tho |
| 07:21.20 | hyperChipmunk | 03:20 < AnduinLothar> nice and super complicated |
| 07:21.33 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 07:21.36 | hyperChipmunk | please tell me he said something immediately above that which makes that make sense |
| 07:21.47 | hyperChipmunk | that's what spilled into my window when I re-joined |
| 07:22.09 | hyperChipmunk | in wowi-lounge |
| 07:22.27 | Thrae | 03:20 < Elessdy:#wowi-lounge> Chatscroll, by AL; Textscroll, by AL; Chatscroller, by AL; Autoscroll, by AL... |
| 07:23.21 | Thrae | Actually looking back, the conversation was rather interesting. |
| 07:23.25 | Thrae | Read purl's logs. |
| 07:24.00 | Thrae | 03:13 < AnduinLothar:#wowi-lounge> wheee, that addon too 10 min to write.. 03:13 < AnduinLothar:#wowi-lounge> why did no one make it before.. |
| 07:24.20 | Thrae | 03:14 < AnduinLothar:#wowi-lounge> this must be why i'm nearing my 40th addon.. 03:14 < AnduinLothar:#wowi-lounge> it's a sickness |
| 07:24.45 | ckknight | I think that maybe throttlling levels should be different for the different channels |
| 07:24.48 | hyperChipmunk | throw enough crap at a wall theory |
| 07:24.56 | ckknight | e.g. a global message is 4x more expensive than a raid message |
| 07:25.15 | CIA-7 | 03icetrain * r4476 10oRA_MainTankFrames/oRA_MainTankFrames.lua: oRA_MainTankFrames: Changed MT name color to grey when the tank is dead |
| 07:25.25 | ckknight | since you can only have a max of 40 members per raid |
| 07:25.31 | ckknight | but there could be a lot more global members |
| 07:26.02 | hyperChipmunk | and then people can earn channel karma, which allows them to go over the limit...! |
| 07:26.04 | ckknight | also, a guild message could be 2x more expensive than a raid message |
| 07:26.31 | hyperChipmunk | commchannel economy! |
| 07:26.36 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, well you achieve said karma by just waiting till the next time is available |
| 07:26.45 | ckknight | say you send a 250-char thing to global |
| 07:26.52 | ckknight | that's worth 1000 points |
| 07:27.00 | ckknight | and you can only send 100 points per second |
| 07:27.10 | ckknight | so you have to wait 10 whole seconds before your next message |
| 07:27.13 | hyperChipmunk | there could be a whole underground network of chat bandwidth dealers |
| 07:27.28 | ckknight | it's for everyone's good |
| 07:27.40 | ckknight | to prevent horrid issues |
| 07:27.55 | hyperChipmunk | or you could send a specially-formatted tell to your dealer, and he can relay it for you before your next available time |
| 07:27.59 | ckknight | such as being sent 100 KiB/s over global |
| 07:28.43 | hyperChipmunk | I see your plan here |
| 07:28.47 | hyperChipmunk | we program the protocol |
| 07:29.01 | hyperChipmunk | get people dependent on it and let the black market flourish |
| 07:29.07 | ckknight | ... |
| 07:29.09 | hyperChipmunk | and then install backdoors |
| 07:29.31 | hyperChipmunk | giving us unlimited bandwidth, which we'd then exploit for profit |
| 07:29.36 | hyperChipmunk | that's genius, man |
| 07:30.43 | ckknight | ... |
| 07:32.02 | ckknight | should I have it so raid leader messages are twice as cheap in raid? |
| 07:32.37 | hyperChipmunk | might be good, since he or an assistant usually would be broadcasting the boss stuff |
| 07:33.14 | ckknight | I'll also make guild leaders twice as cheap in guild |
| 07:33.20 | ckknight | nobody else other than that |
| 07:33.28 | ckknight | communication is expensive already |
| 07:34.09 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:34.16 | ckknight | should I have 3 different thottles? |
| 07:34.25 | ckknight | 1 for guild, 1 for raid, 1 for global? |
| 07:35.32 | Shyva | no, the max of the things you can send is all your data in every channel, so if you are casting spells you can send less chat, if I remember correctly :-/ |
| 07:35.46 | ckknight | yes, I know |
| 07:35.52 | hyperChipmunk | hmm..would add some diversity to the black market |
| 07:35.57 | ckknight | I think it might be worthwhile, so your raid addon doesn't get blocked by your global addon |
| 07:36.10 | ckknight | raid would clearly be cheapest |
| 07:36.17 | ckknight | since it's most real-time |
| 07:36.25 | ckknight | the guild would be more expensive (3x or so) |
| 07:36.35 | ckknight | then global would be horribly expensive (10x) |
| 07:37.01 | ckknight | that means if your ItemDB is spamming global, it won't affect your raid addon's chat |
| 07:37.10 | ckknight | yea, that definitely seems like a good plan |
| 07:37.15 | hyperChipmunk | sure it would |
| 07:37.27 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 07:37.31 | hyperChipmunk | if they're separated? |
| 07:37.37 | ckknight | right |
| 07:37.45 | ckknight | here's an example: |
| 07:37.54 | ckknight | oRA fires a message (50 chars) |
| 07:37.56 | hyperChipmunk | you dont' want someone to respond to a query in global and have it prevent them from sending a raid sync during a boss fight |
| 07:38.00 | ckknight | global fires a message (250 chars) |
| 07:38.20 | ckknight | instead of waiting 25 seconds to fire a new raid message, it should only wait 1 |
| 07:38.34 | ckknight | but to fire a new global message, you _would_ have to wait 25 seconds |
| 07:38.45 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 07:38.59 | hyperChipmunk | raid needs to be allowed as near-realtime as possible due to boss fights |
| 07:39.05 | ckknight | right. |
| 07:39.11 | ckknight | raid will be 100 chars/sec |
| 07:39.17 | ckknight | guild will be 25 chars/sec |
| 07:39.22 | ckknight | and global will be 10 chars/sec |
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| 07:39.46 | hyperChipmunk | raid leaders and assistants need priority also |
| 07:40.28 | ckknight | raid leader will be 200 chars/sec |
| 07:40.34 | ckknight | how do I tell an assistant? |
| 07:40.37 | ckknight | is that possible? |
| 07:40.45 | ckknight | cause if so, I'd say 150 chars/sec |
| 07:40.53 | hyperChipmunk | I'm pretty sure |
| 07:40.56 | ckknight | for guild, guild leader can be 50 chars/sec |
| 07:41.01 | hyperChipmunk | just find the code in the raid window that paints the (A) |
| 07:41.11 | hyperChipmunk | UnitIsPromoted probably |
| 07:41.11 | ckknight | this is more about limiting inbound traffic than outbound traffic |
| 07:41.19 | hyperChipmunk | or actually |
| 07:41.26 | hyperChipmunk | i think it's like UnitIsRaidOfficer |
| 07:41.30 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:41.39 | ckknight | okay, but it is possible to check easily |
| 07:41.44 | ckknight | which is important |
| 07:41.48 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 07:42.08 | hyperChipmunk | and raid leader usually is raid leader because he explains the strats, etc |
| 07:42.21 | hyperChipmunk | it's usually assistants that are running the comm stuff, from my experience |
| 07:43.38 | Elkano | hmm, seems like TinyTip will soon be able to replace TipBuddy :) (if it isn't yet ^^) |
| 07:46.00 | ckknight | oh yea, I'm going to through assorted mathematics and psychology at this ;-) |
| 07:46.39 | ckknight | such as the Dunbar number to explain the guild rate |
| 07:47.05 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 07:47.52 | ckknight | okay, how many users are on at once on an alliance-side server? |
| 07:50.18 | hyperChipmunk | warcraftrealms.com |
| 07:52.18 | ckknight | online, not total |
| 07:52.36 | hyperChipmunk | I coulnd't tell you; but if you wanted to find out, that's where you'd do it |
| 07:52.46 | hyperChipmunk | download census+ |
| 07:52.50 | hyperChipmunk | and run a scan |
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| 07:56.49 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r4477 10TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTipAnchor.lua): TinyTip: You can now set the tooltip to ALWAYS FadeOut or NEVER FadeOut, or just leave it at defaults. |
| 07:57.11 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r4478 10TinyTipOptions/ (TinyTipChatLocale_enEN.lua TinyTipOptions.lua): TinyTipOptions: Updated to reflect new options with Fading. |
| 07:57.20 | Mabus | Thrae: Let me finish this Scarlet righteous orb run and I'll give it a try :) |
| 07:58.50 | Mabus | Thrae: As an exercise in Lua I thought I'd write a FuBar plugin that gives you the TinyTip menu in a little while, would that be OK? |
| 07:59.45 | ckknight | prolly should be fine |
| 07:59.52 | Thrae | Mabus: Alright, let me make it compatible. |
| 08:02.38 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r4479 10TinyTipOptions/TinyTipOptions.lua: TinyTipOptions: Changed the local function DDMenu to global function TinyTipOptions_CreateDDMenu, which can be passed to Dewdrop:Register call. |
| 08:03.00 | Thrae | ckknight: Just needed to change that local to a global. |
| 08:03.09 | ckknight | which? |
| 08:03.15 | ckknight | oh |
| 08:03.18 | ckknight | ah ;-) |
| 08:03.25 | Thrae | The function which propagates the Dewdrop menu ;) |
| 08:04.19 | Elkano | oh, Rudi Carell has found a final campsite for his travel trailer :( |
| 08:06.26 | *** join/#wowace Wobin (n=Wobin@221.220.187.68) |
| 08:06.39 | Wobin | hola from Beijing Airport =P |
| 08:06.50 | Wobin | My flight is delayed in Shanghai due to bad weather |
| 08:06.56 | sedatedChipmunk | wtg nub |
| 08:07.04 | sedatedChipmunk | you should have taken the griffin |
| 08:07.05 | Wobin | And I'll probably miss my connecting flight in Singapore |
| 08:07.22 | Wobin | I think my griffen was struck by lightning = |
| 08:07.23 | Wobin | 9( |
| 08:07.38 | sedatedChipmunk | pwnd |
| 08:07.46 | sedatedChipmunk | friggin shammies |
| 08:10.07 | ckknight | AL's a douche! |
| 08:10.58 | Thrae|Zzzz | Sometimes people become defensive and elitist if they're insecure. |
| 08:11.45 | ckknight | he probably is threatened by my larger penis size. |
| 08:12.37 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 08:13.10 | ckknight | morning, Ammo |
| 08:14.51 | Elkano | Error: Interface\AddOns\BabbleLib\Babble-Zone-2.0\Babble-Zone-2.0.lua:392: `}' expected (to close `{' at line 390) near `[' |
| 08:15.17 | ckknight | hrm |
| 08:15.19 | ckknight | checking. |
| 08:15.52 | ckknight | weird. |
| 08:16.01 | ckknight | check out the line, Elkano |
| 08:16.04 | ckknight | tell me if you see anything |
| 08:19.30 | Wobin | yeah |
| 08:19.37 | Wobin | It's missing a comma on the previous line |
| 08:19.50 | Wobin | ["Ahn'Qiraj"] = "안À´ë¼즈" |
| 08:19.50 | Wobin | ["Alterac Mountains"] = "알Ä°ëž™ 산맥", |
| 08:19.59 | Wobin | yay for whatsisface! =) |
| 08:20.07 | Wobin | I'll commit it up |
| 08:20.45 | CIA-7 | 03wobin * r4480 10BabbleLib/Babble-Zone-2.0/Babble-Zone-2.0.lua: Babble-Zone - Fixed a missing comma typo |
| 08:21.25 | Elkano | TinyTipOptions.lua:205: attempt to call global `DDAddRadioBoxs' (a nil value) ---TinyTipOptions.lua:210: attempt to call global `DDAddRadioBoxs' (a nil value) --- |
| 08:21.38 | Elkano | and frame sticky isn't klickable |
| 08:23.07 | Elkano | and tooltips are behind TTO's drewdrop, whicht makes them hard to read |
| 08:23.09 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4481 10BigWigs/AQ40/Sartura.lua: |
| 08:23.09 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Sartura): |
| 08:23.09 | CIA-7 | * Adjustment to the whirlwind trigger. Hope it works now |
| 08:29.23 | Wobin | hm |
| 08:29.32 | Wobin | I have the characters for the chinese Ahn'Qiraj |
| 08:29.48 | Wobin | But I don't know how to convert to the \123\456 format |
| 08:29.55 | [Ammo] | me neither :) |
| 08:29.55 | Wobin | Anyone have a link to a converter? |
| 08:30.04 | MoonWolf | al is getting anoying again. |
| 08:30.23 | Wobin | yus |
| 08:31.01 | ckknight | http://www.wowwiki.com/Addon_Comm_Protocol#Message_throttling |
| 08:33.08 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 08:33.19 | ckknight | ^--- please read it over, see what you think |
| 08:33.19 | [Ammo] | I sure hope there's something in the protocol that indicates: deliver this now |
| 08:33.31 | [Ammo] | I read it, and throttling on global and gu is good |
| 08:33.34 | ckknight | no, there isn't |
| 08:33.43 | ckknight | and there shouldn't be. |
| 08:33.46 | [Ammo] | well |
| 08:33.52 | ckknight | raid messaging does need some throttling |
| 08:33.54 | [Ammo] | for BigWigs I need my sync to be delivered a s a p |
| 08:33.58 | ckknight | it's allowed a full 100 chars/second |
| 08:34.06 | [Ammo] | k that should be near instant |
| 08:34.12 | [Ammo] | since the messages are small |
| 08:34.13 | ckknight | if you have no queue, yes |
| 08:34.24 | MoonWolf | [Ammo], an implementation can make a priority system without the protocol being involved. |
| 08:34.27 | ckknight | also, AceComm _will_ have proper priorities |
| 08:34.36 | [Ammo] | k |
| 08:34.45 | ckknight | there will be an _instant_ setting |
| 08:34.51 | Mabus | ckknight: Is there a tutorial for FuBar/dewdrop? I searched the wiki but didn't find anything but API docs. |
| 08:34.53 | [Ammo] | just what BigWigs needs ;) |
| 08:34.53 | ckknight | that'll override (but still add time to the throttle) |
| 08:35.06 | [Ammo] | well near instant is good enough |
| 08:35.08 | ckknight | Mabus, I'm sorry, but the wiki is only for 2.0+ stuff |
| 08:35.14 | Mabus | aha |
| 08:35.15 | [Ammo] | as long as it gets sent withint 0.5 seconds I'm ok with it |
| 08:35.24 | ckknight | Mabus, there is ExampleFu in FuBar |
| 08:35.30 | [Ammo] | anything longer might offset timers too much |
| 08:35.38 | Mabus | ckknight: I know, but it doesn't deal with dewdrop |
| 08:35.48 | ckknight | Mabus, just ask if you get stuck :-P |
| 08:36.03 | ckknight | [Ammo], there will be a priority system, though, don't worry |
| 08:36.04 | [Ammo] | will AceComm also beable to join a channel that is not a comm* one |
| 08:36.17 | [Ammo] | (that way I can implement it in oRA2 already |
| 08:36.28 | ckknight | no |
| 08:36.38 | [Ammo] | and afterwards when CTRA goes to the Comm protocal easily switch |
| 08:36.38 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 08:36.41 | ckknight | just not gonna support it. |
| 08:36.55 | [Ammo] | too bad |
| 08:36.56 | ckknight | Cide instead will likely switch to Comm asap |
| 08:37.05 | [Ammo] | that's cool |
| 08:37.09 | sedatedChipmunk | that'd be a great way to mess things up with the people who update addons only when there's a patch |
| 08:37.24 | *** join/#wowace MvA|Slayman (i=Slayman@c140025.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 08:37.32 | [Ammo] | it's just a matter of having a guy in your guild watch out for new releases |
| 08:37.33 | Mabus | ckknight: I'm calling TinyTipOptions_CreateDDMenu from TinyTipFu:MenuSettings like |function TinyTipFu:MenuSettings(level, value) TinyTipOptions_CreateDDMenu(level,value) end|, and now, since there is a local |dewdrop| defined in both TinyTipFu.lua and TinyTipOptions.lua, which one will be used by the TinyTipOptions_CreateDDMenu method? |
| 08:37.39 | [Ammo] | and making everyone aware when to upgrade |
| 08:37.43 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk, understandable, but it'll be based around the protocol, and strictly follow it |
| 08:37.45 | Mabus | ckknight: I'm guessing the local one. |
| 08:37.51 | sedatedChipmunk | no |
| 08:37.55 | sedatedChipmunk | I mean what ammo was saying |
| 08:38.13 | ckknight | Mabus, probably? |
| 08:38.29 | sedatedChipmunk | "I have oRA with comm support, how come it's not working" |
| 08:38.33 | sedatedChipmunk | "do you have the righ tversion?" |
| 08:38.38 | ckknight | I understand that there will be an icky transition period |
| 08:38.40 | sedatedChipmunk | "yea, it says it has comm support" |
| 08:38.45 | Mabus | ckknight: yes, unless the method is preprocessed into TinyTipFu.lua |
| 08:38.48 | ckknight | but it is needed. |
| 08:38.58 | ckknight | Mabus, I didn't write TinyTip, don't ask me. |
| 08:39.15 | sedatedChipmunk | AL is like a friggin child |
| 08:39.37 | ckknight | oh, btw, Mabus all dewdrop instances refer to the same object. |
| 08:39.47 | ckknight | right, chip |
| 08:39.58 | [Ammo] | if Cide moves to the Comm protocol, and Ace provides AceComm to the people, then AL has nothing to do but try and jump no the boat |
| 08:40.24 | [Ammo] | s/no/on/ |
| 08:40.27 | ckknight | I think what'll happen is that AceComm will support the old channels until a predetermined date |
| 08:40.31 | sedatedChipmunk | 'wahhhhhh, I wrote a library; why are they stopping to consider anything else' |
| 08:40.38 | Mabus | ckknight: right, I'm a bit confused by that, because in the methods that create dewdrop menus that I've read, they just check for |if (level == X) then| and then :AddLine to it, they never reset the |dewdrop| object. |
| 08:40.53 | MoonWolf | i wrote a library, and now people are making a protocol!!! |
| 08:40.58 | ckknight | Mabus, local dewdrop = Dewdrop:GetInstance("1.2") |
| 08:41.06 | [Ammo] | he should update his library |
| 08:41.10 | [Ammo] | and be done with it |
| 08:41.12 | sedatedChipmunk | thing is he's used to people downloading and using his stuff who don't have a clue |
| 08:41.23 | sedatedChipmunk | general wow public |
| 08:41.36 | [Ammo] | anyway, I had a goal today |
| 08:41.39 | sedatedChipmunk | *grunt* me push cosmos button |
| 08:41.42 | Mabus | ckknight: Actually, I see that TinyTip uses GetInstance("Dewdrop-2.0") |
| 08:41.48 | ckknight | Mabus, ah, yea. |
| 08:41.54 | Mabus | ckknight: is that a problem? |
| 08:41.55 | ckknight | that's not supported with FuBar 1.2 |
| 08:42.05 | Mabus | aha |
| 08:42.09 | ckknight | if you wait for FuBar 2.0 (a few days), you can do it |
| 08:42.13 | Mabus | okay then |
| 08:42.17 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 08:42.20 | Mabus | :P |
| 08:44.35 | ckknight | gah |
| 08:44.40 | ckknight | probably shouldn't've done that. |
| 08:44.41 | Wobin | *facepalm* |
| 08:44.43 | sedatedChipmunk | hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelarious |
| 08:44.47 | MoonWolf | ckknight, no, but we don' t care |
| 08:44.50 | Wobin | Now he's going to emolog =P |
| 08:44.58 | ckknight | lol |
| 08:45.08 | ckknight | he needs to respond... |
| 08:47.04 | ckknight | he just acted like I never said it |
| 08:47.07 | ckknight | goddammit. |
| 08:50.35 | MoonWolf | ckknight, the old channel name is stored in the table right ? |
| 08:50.45 | ckknight | yes |
| 08:50.52 | MoonWolf | why not leave that channel and join the new one if they don' t match ? |
| 08:50.58 | ckknight | hrm |
| 08:51.02 | ckknight | fair enough :-P |
| 08:51.11 | ckknight | wait, that's already in the protocol |
| 08:51.15 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 08:51.19 | Wobin | MoonWolf: hehe |
| 08:51.20 | MoonWolf | problem solved. |
| 08:51.21 | ckknight | I need to make it explicitly stated |
| 08:51.40 | Wobin | Although that table has to save somewhere, wouldn't it? |
| 08:51.48 | Wobin | if you're talking about disconnecting |
| 08:52.29 | MoonWolf | well yeah, i assumed the table would be a saved var. |
| 08:52.30 | ckknight | the table doesn't save |
| 08:52.32 | ckknight | nope |
| 08:52.35 | ckknight | table doesn't save |
| 08:52.36 | MoonWolf | hmmmm |
| 08:52.38 | ckknight | not supposed to |
| 08:52.39 | Wobin | it's an embed |
| 08:52.40 | sedatedChipmunk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headbutting rofl |
| 08:52.43 | ckknight | it doesn't matter, though |
| 08:52.49 | ckknight | well, actually |
| 08:52.50 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:52.55 | Wobin | Although you -could- leave any channel with the ComRa prefix first |
| 08:52.55 | sedatedChipmunk | In some rare systems, such as Eritrean Testa, headbutting is of major focus or is the sole focus.Also used in other sports too such as in soccer... (Zidane's headbutt on an italian player.) |
| 08:53.00 | Wobin | if it doens't match |
| 08:53.05 | ckknight | it needs to check for dead CommGu*, CommRa*, and CommGlobal |
| 08:53.13 | Wobin | yeah |
| 08:53.23 | Wobin | Although there wouldn't be a dead CommGlobal |
| 08:53.45 | Wobin | A dead CommGu would be less likely, but still possible |
| 08:53.56 | MoonWolf | a dead commglobal never happens |
| 08:54.09 | MoonWolf | in theory.... |
| 08:54.38 | Wobin | I can't see it happening. It's a static name |
| 08:54.53 | ckknight | MoonWolf, technically it does |
| 08:54.59 | ckknight | you leave channels if no addon uses it |
| 08:55.05 | ckknight | at initialize, no addons are in any channels |
| 08:55.31 | MoonWolf | yeah okay, but the channel itself is alway' s THERE , just, it not usefull for you. |
| 08:55.52 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:55.53 | Wobin | no he's right |
| 08:55.57 | Wobin | you'd want to leave it |
| 08:55.58 | ckknight | in which case, you should leave |
| 08:56.03 | ckknight | according to the protocol |
| 08:56.04 | Wobin | and rejoin -if- you have addons that require it |
| 08:56.09 | Wobin | otherwise it takes up a channel space |
| 08:56.10 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 08:56.20 | MoonWolf | no need to take up useless channel slots. |
| 08:57.06 | Wobin | I think AL is emo'ing cause all the suggested naming conventions don't have 'Sky' somewhere in it |
| 08:57.17 | sedatedChipmunk | hehe |
| 08:57.42 | MoonWolf | i still think it should be called air |
| 08:57.47 | CIA-7 | 03icetrain * r4482 10oRA_MainTankFrames/ (oRA_MainTankFrames.lua oRA_MainTankFramesLocals.lua): |
| 08:57.47 | CIA-7 | oRA_MainTankFrames: Added statusbar for MT health. |
| 08:57.47 | CIA-7 | Added new style called Elysium |
| 08:59.02 | sedatedChipmunk | I think I don't give a flyin' hoo-hah about his input, and he should shut up and play with his toy code |
| 09:01.39 | ckknight | nah, his input is sorta good |
| 09:01.40 | ckknight | sorta |
| 09:01.53 | ckknight | on another note, I'm stealing afterInit |
| 09:01.57 | ckknight | only making it make sense. |
| 09:02.01 | MoonWolf | between the sky does this already and why doesnt the whole world use sky complaints. |
| 09:02.10 | sedatedChipmunk | MoonWolf: right |
| 09:02.37 | sedatedChipmunk | seriously |
| 09:02.38 | MoonWolf | really , most of the things that cosmos did were great |
| 09:02.41 | sedatedChipmunk | what DOESN'T sky do |
| 09:02.44 | MoonWolf | when cosmos was the only thing around |
| 09:02.53 | ckknight | right. |
| 09:02.57 | MoonWolf | but AL should accept things change and change with the things. |
| 09:03.11 | sedatedChipmunk | Sky.AnnounceASL |
| 09:03.19 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 09:04.24 | sedatedChipmunk | I want to kick him in the face |
| 09:06.29 | sedatedChipmunk | 05:05 < AnduinLothar> I htink that i've spent over a year researching it and it still confuses me |
| 09:06.49 | MoonWolf | exactly what confuses him is unsure to me, chat, gold or rep menu ? |
| 09:07.03 | sedatedChipmunk | score one for the "no way should this guy be allowed control of the entire addon community" side |
| 09:08.44 | sedatedChipmunk | *high-five moonwolf* |
| 09:08.46 | Wobin | Sky.HealMyRaid |
| 09:08.58 | MoonWolf | wow that token ring tcp/ip thing was better then i thought |
| 09:10.06 | sedatedChipmunk | seriously, I don't think this guy's attitude does anything for the process, except as a nice whipping-boy |
| 09:10.12 | Wobin | ~emulate AnduinLothar |
| 09:10.15 | ckknight | (I don't get the TCP/IP thing) |
| 09:10.20 | sedatedChipmunk | we should just move on |
| 09:10.28 | Wobin | purl, emulate AnduinLothar is You aren't finished developing until you can't remove anythign else |
| 09:10.30 | purl | ...but emulate anduinlothar is already something else... |
| 09:10.30 | sedatedChipmunk | Token Ring networking preceded TCP/IP |
| 09:10.30 | MoonWolf | ckknight, do you know what token ring is ? |
| 09:10.42 | Wobin | ~emulate AnduinLothar |
| 09:10.50 | Wobin | ~emulate anduinlothar |
| 09:10.53 | ckknight | MoonWolf, sorry, not |
| 09:10.54 | ckknight | no* |
| 09:10.57 | MoonWolf | it was ... a nice idea, but tcp/ip (with all its flaws) was simply better |
| 09:10.57 | Wobin | feh |
| 09:11.01 | ckknight | okay |
| 09:11.08 | Wobin | purl literal emulate anduinlothar |
| 09:11.09 | purl | "emulate anduinlothar" is "<reply>" |
| 09:11.13 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 09:11.16 | Wobin | rofl |
| 09:11.20 | sedatedChipmunk | oh my |
| 09:11.25 | Wobin | purl, no emulate AnduinLothar is You aren't finished developing until you can't remove anythign else |
| 09:11.27 | purl | okay, Wobin |
| 09:11.49 | sedatedChipmunk | I like the follow-up |
| 09:11.57 | MoonWolf | purl, no emulate AnduinLothar is <reply>You aren't finished developing until you can't remove anythign else. |
| 09:11.58 | purl | MoonWolf: okay |
| 09:12.01 | sedatedChipmunk | whenever i remove something, i put it in another library |
| 09:12.16 | MoonWolf | then you are not removing, you re moving around |
| 09:12.25 | ckknight | anythign? |
| 09:12.31 | Wobin | (sic) |
| 09:12.43 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk, yes, modularity for the win. |
| 09:12.49 | Wobin | Why should I corrrect his spelling =P |
| 09:12.55 | Wobin | -r =P |
| 09:12.58 | Wobin | cold fingers =) |
| 09:13.48 | sedatedChipmunk | i love how he touts his community of a half-dozen brainstormers |
| 09:13.59 | Wobin | They're all his multiple personalities =P |
| 09:14.33 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:17.03 | ckknight | I feel my argument was pretty good |
| 09:17.27 | sedatedChipmunk | it doesn't need ot be |
| 09:17.35 | sedatedChipmunk | he doesn't change his |
| 09:17.39 | MoonWolf | it was, but i don' t think he WANTS to listen. |
| 09:18.21 | sedatedChipmunk | Sky is 8 thousand lines of code |
| 09:18.29 | sedatedChipmunk | eight |
| 09:18.32 | sedatedChipmunk | thousand |
| 09:18.48 | sedatedChipmunk | what's its loaded size? |
| 09:18.56 | sedatedChipmunk | anyone brave enough to check? |
| 09:19.15 | MoonWolf | not me |
| 09:19.23 | Neronix | Hell no |
| 09:19.27 | Neronix | btw, Morning |
| 09:19.34 | sedatedChipmunk | ~morning |
| 09:19.35 | purl | Good morning! |
| 09:19.35 | Neronix | Wobin: Still need a converter? |
| 09:19.39 | sedatedChipmunk | ~mornings |
| 09:19.40 | purl | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 09:19.48 | Wobin | Neronix: Yep! =) |
| 09:19.48 | MoonWolf | how do you make a comm lib out of 8000 lines of code |
| 09:19.49 | Neronix | http://wow.jaslaughter.com/uni2lua.asp |
| 09:19.58 | MoonWolf | what did he hide in there..... half the matrix ? |
| 09:20.01 | Wobin | woot, thankyou |
| 09:20.05 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 09:20.12 | Neronix | As well as death, famine, war and pestilence |
| 09:20.27 | Wobin | alas =P |
| 09:20.37 | Wobin | It seems I'll have to leave the country to get to that site =P |
| 09:21.09 | Neronix | Speaking of the matrix |
| 09:21.17 | Neronix | watch as I implement agent smith in 5 lines! |
| 09:21.31 | Neronix | smith = "*Fixes sunglasses*" |
| 09:21.46 | Neronix | for k,v in pairs(_G) do k = smith end |
| 09:21.48 | Neronix | ok, 2 lines |
| 09:22.08 | Wobin | hehe |
| 09:22.11 | Wobin | lua rocks =P |
| 09:22.12 | ckknight | doesn't work, Neronix |
| 09:22.20 | Neronix | er, v = smith |
| 09:22.25 | ckknight | doesn't work |
| 09:22.29 | sedatedChipmunk | when he said the thing about 'you're not done developing until you can't remove anything else', I almost retorted with, "ah, so do you have a successor named to continue development after your death?' |
| 09:22.32 | Neronix | _G[k] = smith? |
| 09:22.34 | ckknight | for k,v in pairs(_G) do _G[k] = smith end |
| 09:22.49 | Neronix | I just woke up :P |
| 09:23.00 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 09:23.09 | sedatedChipmunk | anyway, good night |
| 09:23.14 | Neronix | night |
| 09:24.00 | sedatedChipmunk | wob, you are a stitch |
| 09:24.04 | Wobin | night chipper =) |
| 09:24.04 | MoonWolf | Neronix, where does the fighting and the bad lines come from ? |
| 09:24.34 | ckknight | is AL even gonna answer to my well-thought-out retort? |
| 09:24.36 | Wobin | MoonWolf: It's embedded in the Fix Sunglasses movement |
| 09:25.03 | MoonWolf | ckknight, no. |
| 09:25.04 | Wobin | ckknight: AL: SkyskySKYskskysysysyssssssSSKY! |
| 09:25.51 | Neronix | MoonWolf: What Wobin said |
| 09:26.01 | MoonWolf | k |
| 09:26.53 | Neronix | Hmm, wait. It won't work |
| 09:26.59 | Neronix | After it gets to pairs |
| 09:27.10 | ckknight | okay, I'm stealing Chrono's afterInit, what should I call the generated event? |
| 09:27.20 | ckknight | Chronos'* |
| 09:27.41 | MoonWolf | hmmm |
| 09:27.41 | Neronix | for k,v in pairs(_G) do if k ~= "pairs" then _G[k] = smith end end |
| 09:27.46 | Neronix | pairs = smith |
| 09:27.51 | Neronix | 3 lines :P |
| 09:28.02 | MoonWolf | CUSTOM_EVENT_POSTINIT ? |
| 09:28.03 | ckknight | basically, it fires after PEW and after the chat windows have opened |
| 09:28.06 | MoonWolf | or something like that. |
| 09:28.16 | ckknight | MoonWolf, AceEvent_PostInitialize it is |
| 09:28.25 | ckknight | :-P |
| 09:28.29 | MoonWolf | right |
| 09:28.44 | ckknight | user-defined events use Addon_EventName style |
| 09:28.49 | Neronix | Hmm... I can optimise that further |
| 09:29.05 | Neronix | getfenv(0) = "*fixes sunglasses" |
| 09:29.17 | Wobin | What's the zone name for AQ40? |
| 09:29.36 | ckknight | Neronix, no. |
| 09:29.38 | Wobin | ah, Ruins of is the 20 |
| 09:29.41 | Wobin | rightio |
| 09:29.47 | Wobin | Temple of AQ |
| 09:29.51 | ckknight | setfenv(0, { "*fixes sunglasses*"}) |
| 09:30.02 | Neronix | I need more coffee |
| 09:30.23 | Neronix | And a pro plus to boot |
| 09:30.23 | ckknight | Neronix, I don't drink any caffeine, I do fine. |
| 09:30.32 | Neronix | That's because you're a machine |
| 09:30.39 | Neronix | :P |
| 09:31.00 | Neronix | Whereas, I'm merely human |
| 09:31.21 | MoonWolf | Tea is way superios to cofeee |
| 09:31.48 | CIA-7 | 03wobin * r4483 10BabbleLib/Babble-Zone-2.0/Babble-Zone-2.0.lua: Babble-Zone-2.0 - Added in the unicode for the SimpChinese Ahn'Qiraj |
| 09:32.29 | ckknight | Neronix, well, I am the prophet. |
| 09:32.38 | Wobin | But coffee smells so much better |
| 09:32.41 | ckknight | I also agree with MoonWolf |
| 09:32.47 | MoonWolf | yay |
| 09:32.49 | ckknight | but I stopped drinking tea anyway |
| 09:32.53 | Neronix | Tea does taste so much better |
| 09:32.55 | ckknight | except noncaffeinated tea |
| 09:33.00 | Wobin | eq |
| 09:33.01 | Wobin | ew |
| 09:33.02 | Neronix | but coffee has more of an effect |
| 09:33.04 | Wobin | er |
| 09:33.11 | Wobin | that's only ew for decaffinated tea |
| 09:33.11 | ckknight | then again, I don't drink that either |
| 09:33.12 | Neronix | but coffee's disgusting without sugar |
| 09:33.21 | Wobin | non-caffinated tea is alright, green tea, chinese tea et al |
| 09:33.25 | MoonWolf | ckknight, you live of soda ? |
| 09:33.51 | ckknight | I don't drink soda |
| 09:33.53 | ckknight | no caffeine |
| 09:34.04 | ckknight | and also I try to stay away from high fructose corn syrup |
| 09:34.12 | MoonWolf | water ? |
| 09:34.23 | Wobin | indeed |
| 09:34.28 | MoonWolf | orangle and applejuice ? |
| 09:34.36 | Wobin | high fructose corn syrup should be injected intravenously! |
| 09:34.38 | MoonWolf | unless that is to fructosy for you. |
| 09:34.43 | ckknight | water, organic milk, juice |
| 09:35.09 | Wobin | ckknight: You're runing AL's emo! |
| 09:35.11 | Wobin | Fer shame! |
| 09:35.17 | ckknight | runing? |
| 09:35.17 | Mikma | yello |
| 09:35.22 | ckknight | supposed to be running or ruining? |
| 09:36.06 | Wobin | ruining, sorry =) |
| 09:36.16 | ckknight | okay |
| 09:36.17 | Wobin | With your 'logic' |
| 09:36.25 | MoonWolf | ckknight, and you snack on... carrots ?(carrots own) |
| 09:36.39 | ckknight | MoonWolf, carrots are pretty pimp |
| 09:36.41 | ckknight | but I eat a lot of fruit |
| 09:36.51 | ckknight | mostly cause the chinese girls here keep feeding it to me |
| 09:37.02 | MoonWolf | its orange, crunchy, healthy, god for nightsight and fallic. |
| 09:37.11 | MoonWolf | phallic* |
| 09:37.16 | MoonWolf | however you spell it. |
| 09:37.22 | MoonWolf | good* |
| 09:37.29 | Wobin | I like mushrooms |
| 09:37.29 | ckknight | MoonWolf, I'm photosensitive, I already see exceptionally good in the dark ;-) |
| 09:37.33 | ckknight | well, I think I know why AL is "bitter and dissolusioned and underappreciated" |
| 09:37.40 | Wobin | Because he is? |
| 09:37.43 | ckknight | cause he brings it upon himself. |
| 09:37.51 | MoonWolf | he is emo. |
| 09:38.00 | Wobin | Overarrogant, overconfidant and selfimportant =P |
| 09:38.14 | ckknight | hrm, need to come up with an emo joke |
| 09:38.19 | Neronix | Wobin: Try this? http://weber.ucsd.edu/~dkjordan/resources/unicodemaker.html |
| 09:38.24 | ckknight | "How many emo kids does it take to write a comm library?" |
| 09:38.35 | Wobin | woot |
| 09:38.38 | Neronix | Wait, doesn't work right |
| 09:38.39 | Wobin | ta, Nero |
| 09:38.43 | ckknight | it doesn't matter, they're goin to feel bitter and dissolusioned and underappreciated anyway. |
| 09:38.50 | Neronix | doesn't give it as \foo\bar |
| 09:39.02 | Wobin | that's alright |
| 09:39.05 | Wobin | it's not hard to convert |
| 09:39.09 | Neronix | Ah, ok |
| 09:39.37 | Wobin | meh |
| 09:39.44 | Wobin | I'm so going to miss my connecting flight =( |
| 09:40.03 | Wobin | Once again, overnight in Singapore =\ |
| 09:40.08 | Wobin | If I even get there |
| 09:40.19 | Neronix | ~comfort Wobin |
| 09:40.21 | purl | There, there, Wobin. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 09:40.21 | MoonWolf | Wobin, sup ? |
| 09:40.25 | Neronix | where are you going anyway? |
| 09:40.32 | Wobin | I'm in Beijing Capital Airport atm |
| 09:40.47 | Wobin | My flight to Singapore for transfer to Sydney has been delayed for ... unknown amount of time |
| 09:40.57 | Neronix | :( |
| 09:41.00 | Wobin | And my layover was only two hours |
| 09:41.09 | Wobin | which are pretty much up by now |
| 09:41.26 | MoonWolf | happy fun times |
| 09:43.55 | Wobin | yargh |
| 09:44.08 | Wobin | I'm here for another ... 2 and ahalf hours |
| 09:45.39 | MoonWolf | Wobin, is that final ? |
| 09:45.53 | Wobin | yeah |
| 09:45.59 | Wobin | I'll arrive at singapore at 2am |
| 09:46.04 | MoonWolf | fun |
| 09:46.07 | Wobin | which screws me over for my connecting flight |
| 09:47.10 | CIA-7 | 03shyva * r4484 10BigWigs/AQ40/Sartura.lua: BigWigs: Fixed typo in Sartura.lua |
| 09:49.47 | Mikma | the TinyTip bordercolor is really porn |
| 09:53.48 | Neronix | Hmm... |
| 09:53.56 | Neronix | I have an idea about the addon comm protocol |
| 09:54.02 | Neronix | Dunno if it's any good though |
| 09:54.07 | MoonWolf | idea' s are welcom. |
| 09:54.11 | Neronix | How about making it all peer to peer via whispers? |
| 09:54.38 | Neronix | Saves you from having to say, receive KLHTM spam if you don't run it |
| 09:54.55 | MoonWolf | wispers bad. |
| 09:54.56 | Neronix | I know GuildAds does about 40% of it's comm via whispers |
| 09:54.58 | Wobin | There are problems with maintaining p2p |
| 09:55.11 | Wobin | And there has to be an announcing anyway |
| 09:55.17 | Neronix | Yeah |
| 09:55.18 | Wobin | initially |
| 09:55.20 | MoonWolf | one person ignore another, suddenly half the network fails. |
| 09:55.25 | Wobin | hehe |
| 09:55.30 | Neronix | True |
| 09:55.30 | Wobin | Communications Breakdown |
| 09:55.53 | Wobin | I'm probably going to be implementing Paintball with a whispersystem |
| 09:56.18 | Wobin | It's easy enough to format the message to <PaintBall> Your assigned target is :STAR |
| 09:56.31 | Wobin | Which will be clear enough for non-users and set the autotarget for users |
| 09:57.18 | Neronix | And someone in the thread mentioned a request for query/response via whisper |
| 09:57.46 | Mikma | hmm i should do a smart way of showing who pinged |
| 09:58.19 | Mikma | (talking about the addon i committed last night, PingPong, simple minimap pinger addon) |
| 09:58.52 | Wobin | for party? |
| 09:59.01 | Wobin | Have their minimap icon briefly change colour |
| 09:59.17 | Wobin | for raid, I dunno =) |
| 09:59.32 | Mikma | atm it puts a message in chat "xxx pinged minimap" |
| 10:00.21 | Neronix | But then if someone pingspams, your chat's going to end up in a huge mess |
| 10:00.27 | Mikma | indeed |
| 10:00.34 | Mikma | that's why i wan't to change it |
| 10:00.48 | Wobin | or buffer the messages |
| 10:03.01 | Neronix | Or just print "DrFoo is pinging the minimap" |
| 10:03.12 | Neronix | and don't print again until 5 seconds after that |
| 10:08.03 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4485 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - tweaked, fixed bugs. |
| 10:09.59 | Neronix | ckknight: How's Fubar2 coming along |
| 10:10.01 | Neronix | +? |
| 10:10.06 | ckknight | meh |
| 10:10.13 | ckknight | it works |
| 10:10.17 | ckknight | not much to it |
| 10:10.31 | ckknight | FuBarPlugin-2.0 doesn't exist yet, though |
| 10:11.33 | Neronix | Any idea how registering a FuBar plugin would work? |
| 10:11.39 | Mikma | mm Bartender is 81KiB |
| 10:11.47 | Mikma | that's pretty good |
| 10:12.37 | ckknight | Neronix, implicit registration |
| 10:12.49 | ckknight | AL is acting _really_ emo |
| 10:13.08 | Mikma | ckknight: is there some like i can read his texts? |
| 10:13.44 | ckknight | Mikma, I don't know what you just said |
| 10:13.59 | Mikma | ckknight: urls so i can read what he has said |
| 10:14.06 | Mikma | like=link loll |
| 10:14.09 | ckknight | oh |
| 10:14.11 | ckknight | um |
| 10:14.11 | Mikma | sorry no wonder |
| 10:14.16 | ckknight | not sure |
| 10:14.22 | ckknight | I think the log is made once a day |
| 10:14.39 | Neronix | Is this stuff in the wowi chan? |
| 10:14.42 | ckknight | yes |
| 10:14.45 | ckknight | #wowi-lounge |
| 10:14.50 | Mikma | oh then i'm following it ;P |
| 10:14.52 | ckknight | I made an emo joke, he quit. |
| 10:15.13 | ckknight | basically, he was just droning on about how he's not appreciated and no one loves him and no one loves Sky |
| 10:15.19 | Mikma | HAHAHAHA oh man ckknight! |
| 10:15.24 | Mikma | that was nice one |
| 10:15.39 | Neronix | O.o |
| 10:15.49 | Neronix | No wonder we don't appreciate him |
| 10:16.10 | MoonWolf | and it wasn' t even as bad as the one you made here. |
| 10:16.30 | ckknight | hehe, yea. |
| 10:16.44 | Neronix | Seriously, are assholes and people who can't code for shit (Global, Cosmos devs, dude who made Metamap, etc) exclusive to the wow community? |
| 10:16.53 | MoonWolf | no |
| 10:16.56 | ckknight | "How many emo kids does it take to write a comm library? it doesn't matter, they're goin to feel bitter and dissolusioned and underappreciated anyway." |
| 10:16.56 | MoonWolf | not AT ALL |
| 10:16.58 | Neronix | Or do they exist on such a huge scale in other communities? |
| 10:17.07 | ckknight | large scale |
| 10:17.27 | ckknight | only the truly anal or the prodigies know how to code well |
| 10:17.36 | MoonWolf | thats bad man |
| 10:17.37 | MoonWolf | bad. |
| 10:17.56 | Neronix | Ow :O |
| 10:17.58 | Mikma | :D |
| 10:18.16 | Mikma | ~applaud ckknight |
| 10:18.17 | purl | ACTION pins ckknight to the wall with steak knives, then gives ckknight a hanging ovation |
| 10:18.32 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 10:18.45 | Mikma | ckknight: so, in which category do you fit in? prodigy or truly anal? :D |
| 10:18.58 | MoonWolf | both |
| 10:19.04 | Mikma | anal prodigy! |
| 10:19.09 | ckknight | essentially |
| 10:19.13 | ckknight | the government believes I'm the format |
| 10:19.17 | ckknight | former* |
| 10:19.26 | ckknight | damn gubernmint |
| 10:19.41 | ckknight | take 4 years of my life will you |
| 10:19.42 | ckknight | rr. |
| 10:19.44 | ckknight | grr* |
| 10:20.23 | Neronix | When people won't run my addons, I don't go into an emo fit. I ask why, ask about how I can improve my code, and then make a better product |
| 10:20.46 | Mikma | Neronix: you code addons?!?? ;) |
| 10:20.57 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 10:21.13 | Neronix | :P |
| 10:21.16 | Elkano | When people won't run my addons, I don't go into an emo fit. I ask why, ask about how I can improve my code, and then ignore them... ;) |
| 10:21.17 | ckknight | when people don't use my stuff I'm like, "fuck you, guy, Titan can blow me, long and hard, all the way to town." |
| 10:21.41 | Neronix | Because there is no reason that you should run Titan over FuBar |
| 10:21.49 | ckknight | it has better profiling |
| 10:21.53 | ckknight | and more plugins for it |
| 10:21.55 | MoonWolf | but titan has more plugins for it! |
| 10:21.57 | Elkano | it was first ;) |
| 10:21.58 | Neronix | Just like how there's no reason to run FuBar DPS over NanoStatsFu |
| 10:22.03 | Mikma | when people won't run my addons, i go to bed and cry myself into dream against my pillow |
| 10:22.13 | Neronix | curse you Rophy! |
| 10:22.22 | MoonWolf | when people don' t run my addons, i don' t have to ignore my users anymore! |
| 10:22.22 | Neronix | NanoStats2 is going to be so much better |
| 10:22.36 | Neronix | -ntegrated FuBar2 support |
| 10:22.45 | Neronix | - Modularisation |
| 10:22.47 | Neronix | - OO |
| 10:22.50 | Neronix | - Faster! |
| 10:22.54 | Neronix | - Stronger! |
| 10:22.57 | Neronix | - Better! |
| 10:23.01 | ckknight | we can rebuild him |
| 10:23.05 | ckknight | we have the technology. |
| 10:23.10 | Neronix | - Worth $8 million, because6 isn't enough |
| 10:23.16 | ckknight | we just don't want to spend a lot of money doing it. |
| 10:23.17 | Neronix | damn inflation |
| 10:23.39 | Neronix | - No dependency! |
| 10:23.54 | Neronix | - Hot Dickings come as standard |
| 10:24.05 | MoonWolf | - It takes phonecalls too |
| 10:24.55 | Neronix | - And rocks your mom while you're too busy grinding to notice |
| 10:25.02 | ckknight | Neronix, I'm not 100% sure whether FuBar support will be through a mixin or throuh a subclass of AceAddon |
| 10:25.06 | ckknight | just so you know |
| 10:25.21 | Neronix | That's why I'm waiting before I write it |
| 10:25.52 | Mikma | purl: road is: http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8782/downtheroad2pu.gif |
| 10:26.09 | Mikma | hmm ok then |
| 10:27.52 | Wobin | gah |
| 10:27.55 | Wobin | I have a choice |
| 10:28.20 | Wobin | I can take the flight at 8:10pm, arrive in s'pore with a chance that I won't get a hotel room at 2am |
| 10:28.47 | Wobin | Or I can go to a hotel here til 11:55, arrive in Singapore at 6:55 and take a connecting flight to PERTH at 9 to then connect to Sydney |
| 10:29.03 | Wobin | But that will involve doing damn immigration again on the way in |
| 10:39.46 | Wobin | Or I can stay here til 11:55feh |
| 10:39.53 | Wobin | see you all on the flip side =P |
| 10:39.57 | Wobin | If I get there =P |
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| 10:40.09 | wereHamster | Tekkub asleep? |
| 10:40.42 | Neronix | Health warning of the day: Don't touch your ipod while defragmenting it |
| 10:40.44 | Neronix | it burns |
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| 10:46.38 | Mikma | raising up cooking is teh bitch |
| 10:48.47 | ag` | how about fishing |
| 10:49.06 | Mikma | yeah done that like 40mins now |
| 10:49.15 | ag` | I have 127 in fishing and I'd rather poke out my eyes than max it |
| 10:51.38 | [Ammo] | fishing and cooking can be raised together |
| 10:51.45 | [Ammo] | but its a snore |
| 10:53.40 | kergoth | working for a UK company is gonna be interesting |
| 10:53.56 | kergoth | i'm up at 4am on a sunday night talking to them, as its around their lunchtime |
| 10:54.02 | kergoth | sheesh |
| 10:55.30 | MoonWolf | Neronix, defragmenting your ipod..... |
| 10:55.50 | MoonWolf | you mean, you take music OFF your ipod ? |
| 10:56.00 | MoonWolf | I only put more music one my jukebox. |
| 10:56.17 | kergoth | speaking of music players, i reflashed mine with rockbox. kicks ass. so much better than the stock software |
| 10:56.20 | kergoth | :) |
| 11:00.00 | Mikma | i got like 10 cooking-patterns waiting in bank |
| 11:01.10 | MoonWolf | cooking is only important untill you ahve enough skill for the thistle tea |
| 11:01.56 | Mikma | some of the foods at highend rock |
| 11:02.01 | Neronix | kergoth: Agreed |
| 11:02.18 | Neronix | vorbis and skinning ftw |
| 11:02.30 | MoonWolf | better music quality ? |
| 11:02.36 | Neronix | MoonWolf: defragging kills loading times with fire |
| 11:02.42 | Mikma | and the only thing i'm interested is raising the fishing to high level since i like to pull lockboxes up |
| 11:02.42 | Neronix | MoonWolf: Yeah |
| 11:02.49 | Mikma | ogg vorbis <3 |
| 11:03.16 | Neronix | I rip everything I own to Q7 or Q8 |
| 11:03.28 | Neronix | and I try to d/l lossless stuff so I can convert those |
| 11:04.10 | Mikma | hummmm hey dudes, is it possible to change quest-dots on minimap to colored differently than flowers/mines |
| 11:05.16 | Neronix | Maybe |
| 11:05.28 | Neronix | Use dev tools or something to get the name if the icon |
| 11:05.37 | Neronix | and then grep framexml for it and see how it works |
| 11:05.58 | Mikma | i think i'll have a look of the minimap xml and lua now |
| 11:08.45 | Mikma | wtf is MinigameFrame.lua? :D |
| 11:11.55 | Elkano | it's most likely used by tictactoe.lua |
| 11:12.44 | Elkano | (well, TicTacToeFrame.lua is the name) |
| 11:13.18 | ckknight | that was in 1.10, right? |
| 11:14.21 | ckknight | ag`, why is there ag` and ag`_ ? |
| 11:14.46 | Mikma | skitzophrenic ;) |
| 11:15.07 | Mikma | well how can i start the TicTacToe then? |
| 11:16.55 | ckknight | can't |
| 11:17.02 | ckknight | it's just theory code |
| 11:17.04 | wereHamster | :Show() ? |
| 11:17.40 | wereHamster | ah.. the files aren't even loaded.. |
| 11:30.39 | FryGuy | you still awake ckknight? |
| 11:30.44 | ckknight | yep |
| 11:30.56 | FryGuy | fuplugin2.0 out yet? :p |
| 11:31.39 | ckknight | no |
| 11:31.43 | FryGuy | :( |
| 11:32.04 | ckknight | a few days |
| 11:32.06 | FryGuy | i just realized I wanted my mod to have one of those cool minimap icon thingys |
| 11:32.10 | FryGuy | but no fubar yet :( |
| 11:34.09 | FryGuy | hmm |
| 11:34.13 | FryGuy | need to test my dkp mod :( |
| 11:34.19 | FryGuy | but don't want to zip it up and send it to anyone |
| 11:34.41 | FryGuy | well, anyone that's online |
| 11:34.48 | haste | Alient wing-wong |
| 11:34.57 | haste | s/t// |
| 11:35.08 | *** join/#wowace Wobin (n=Wobin@221.220.187.68) |
| 11:35.16 | Wobin | blah |
| 11:35.27 | Wobin | Looks like I'm catching the 8pm-2am to Singapore =P |
| 11:37.15 | FryGuy | :O |
| 11:38.56 | ckknight | sucks |
| 11:41.46 | Mikma | booty bay bruisers suck |
| 11:41.55 | Mikma | we tried to gang a rogue but failed ;) |
| 11:42.44 | *** join/#wowace snurre (n=snurre@AVelizy-153-1-19-8.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:45.57 | Mikma | lol! when i try to dive in water as ghost, i get disconnected |
| 11:46.13 | haste | works fine here! |
| 11:46.27 | steino | :O |
| 11:46.35 | kergoth | 5am, havent gone to bed yet... /me wonders if he's getting too old for this |
| 11:47.07 | FryGuy | west coast too kergoth? :p |
| 11:47.17 | FryGuy | i woke up at 4:30pm today :( |
| 11:47.27 | FryGuy | well yesterday |
| 11:47.39 | kergoth | arizona. no daylight savings here, so its pacific until fall |
| 11:58.40 | Wobin | ohwell, I'm off for my flight |
| 11:58.45 | Wobin | bye! |
| 11:58.47 | ckknight | cya |
| 11:58.49 | ckknight | fare well |
| 11:58.58 | Wobin | ehehe |
| 11:59.00 | ckknight | hrm, that's funny |
| 11:59.20 | ckknight | I didn't even mean it to be the standard goodbye "farewell" |
| 11:59.31 | ckknight | I was basically wishing you to fare well |
| 11:59.32 | ckknight | :-P |
| 11:59.46 | FryGuy | hmm |
| 11:59.48 | kergoth | heh. i love learning about the entymology(sp?) of words |
| 11:59.51 | kergoth | interesting stuff |
| 11:59.53 | FryGuy | i need someone to help me test my addon :( |
| 11:59.59 | ckknight | yea, it's enymology |
| 12:00.01 | ckknight | err |
| 12:00.06 | ckknight | entymology |
| 12:00.14 | MoonWolf | its funny, fare well carries a bad undertone. |
| 12:00.28 | ckknight | why's that? |
| 12:00.32 | FryGuy | i thought it was Etymology |
| 12:00.54 | kergoth | ~spell etymology |
| 12:00.59 | ckknight | hrm |
| 12:01.00 | kergoth | FryGuy: good job |
| 12:01.02 | ckknight | ohwell |
| 12:01.06 | MoonWolf | It comes from the time of the east indy company. People would sail out, but a lot of them would not return. |
| 12:01.08 | FryGuy | entymology is about bugs :p |
| 12:02.25 | FryGuy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entomology |
| 12:02.35 | FryGuy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymology |
| 12:02.46 | MoonWolf | stupid similar words. |
| 12:03.27 | kergoth | i like naming my characters after something related to the roots of the words for their class or race |
| 12:03.39 | Mikma | kerrior? |
| 12:03.40 | MoonWolf | I like making names up. |
| 12:03.44 | Mikma | kerlock? |
| 12:03.51 | Mikma | oh oh! kerladin! |
| 12:04.06 | MoonWolf | Xesyto, Vishta, Tzarnal, Exislium, Rahnee. |
| 12:05.17 | wereHamster | I like using verbs as the base for my character names.. like.. Shag :-P |
| 12:08.18 | kergoth | "kergoth" was actually a name i pulled out of my ass one time, as a name for the game server on my server box for some game |
| 12:08.22 | FryGuy | hmm |
| 12:08.22 | kergoth | heh |
| 12:08.28 | FryGuy | what's otravi's name in this channel again? |
| 12:08.33 | MoonWolf | haste |
| 12:08.38 | haste | MoonWolf |
| 12:08.42 | haste | oh.. |
| 12:08.45 | FryGuy | haha |
| 12:08.47 | haste | FryGuy then! |
| 12:08.51 | FryGuy | yes! |
| 12:08.54 | MoonWolf | its bad enough that people confuse me with moonsorrow |
| 12:09.04 | FryGuy | hey you updated XRS yet moonwolf? |
| 12:09.13 | FryGuy | :p |
| 12:09.34 | FryGuy | anyways.. i wanted to know if you could put the rank of your spell in ocb |
| 12:09.37 | haste | whenever people just say "haste" I just reply with their nick :p |
| 12:09.49 | MoonWolf | haste |
| 12:10.00 | haste | FryGuy: I've been thinking about it, since you can inhert things with CreateFrame now |
| 12:10.33 | FryGuy | hmm what's that help? :p |
| 12:10.37 | haste | MoonWolf: I don't have a script for it! |
| 12:10.42 | MoonWolf | damn |
| 12:10.49 | haste | FryGuy: It makes me less lazy since I dno't have to make a xml file for it |
| 12:10.59 | haste | but I've just started on porting it to Ace2 |
| 12:11.03 | FryGuy | oh |
| 12:11.12 | haste | and adding the three mirrorbars and such |
| 12:11.33 | FryGuy | meh i don't care about mirrorbars? |
| 12:11.42 | FryGuy | but what does the inheritence thing matter? |
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| 12:12.49 | haste | FryGuy: I can create a tooltip if the user wants rank in there from some strange unknown reason |
| 12:12.52 | haste | and not create if not |
| 12:13.26 | kergoth | hmm... to sleep or not to sleep, that's the question |
| 12:14.01 | FryGuy | also why are you doing a regexp to get the colors every time you cast a spell.. doesn't make sense to me :/ |
| 12:14.28 | haste | FryGuy: I've changed it |
| 12:14.38 | FryGuy | ah |
| 12:14.48 | haste | I've changed quite a lot actually :p |
| 12:16.47 | FryGuy | :p |
| 12:17.10 | FryGuy | i still don't know what that has to do with inheriting a frame |
| 12:17.14 | MoonWolf | kergoth, sleep is good. |
| 12:17.20 | FryGuy | wouldn't it just change the .SetText? |
| 12:17.25 | ckknight | hooray, I have now obseleted Chronos' afterInit |
| 12:17.30 | ckknight | which in and of itself was flawed. |
| 12:17.40 | FryGuy | huh? |
| 12:17.41 | FryGuy | :/ |
| 12:17.42 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 12:17.46 | FryGuy | afterInit, in what? |
| 12:17.50 | MoonWolf | ckknight, dont tell al |
| 12:17.51 | MoonWolf | he might get more emo |
| 12:17.54 | MoonWolf | oh, right |
| 12:18.02 | ckknight | it didn't work as it was supposed to |
| 12:18.10 | MoonWolf | kergoth, did you pick up what happen with anduin a few hours too. |
| 12:18.12 | ckknight | mine has a much greater chance of success |
| 12:18.23 | MoonWolf | chance <? |
| 12:18.28 | kergoth | naw i didnt read the backlog |
| 12:18.33 | [Ammo] | oRA2 lives... |
| 12:18.51 | [Ammo] | all core functionality is working with Ace2 |
| 12:18.52 | MoonWolf | [Ammo], i just don' t update till i know the current version is stable |
| 12:18.55 | [Ammo] | now to port some modules |
| 12:18.59 | ckknight | >99.9% success if you have a channel open. |
| 12:19.03 | MoonWolf | k |
| 12:19.08 | ckknight | Chronos' afterInit was more like 95% |
| 12:19.13 | ckknight | but with other factors |
| 12:19.17 | ckknight | and such. |
| 12:19.32 | [Ammo] | MoonWolf: I didn't commit it to the SVN yet |
| 12:19.40 | [Ammo] | if I do I'll commit it as oRA2/ |
| 12:19.42 | MoonWolf | how do you fix the . 0.01% ? |
| 12:19.52 | ckknight | I'm looking into it now. |
| 12:20.35 | MoonWolf | btw |
| 12:20.40 | MoonWolf | today is good week on dutch tv |
| 12:20.46 | MoonWolf | all alien episodes. |
| 12:20.55 | Mikma | oh for fucks sake alliance truly SUCKS in BG |
| 12:21.07 | Mikma | we were something like 10 alliance vs 8 horde |
| 12:21.11 | MoonWolf | Mikma, i won 3 av's in a row on my server :P \o/ |
| 12:21.13 | Mikma | and horde managed to capture the flag |
| 12:21.16 | MoonWolf | this week |
| 12:21.16 | ag` | Mikma, move to RC and Pvp with me and my bro :P |
| 12:21.23 | ckknight | okay, it can't be fixed |
| 12:21.34 | ckknight | but it's really closer to 0.001% or so |
| 12:21.39 | MoonWolf | k |
| 12:21.42 | ckknight | which is such a fringe case, I'm not worried |
| 12:22.01 | Mikma | ag`: don't wan't to level any characters anymore |
| 12:22.11 | MoonWolf | transfer it. |
| 12:22.21 | Mikma | give me the $ for it |
| 12:22.46 | Elkano | multiple choice quiz in my computer sience lecture on data networks... first question: who one the soccer championship a) Ajax Amsterdam b) Jürgen Kliensmann c) Zinedin Zedane d) Italy :/ |
| 12:22.48 | Mikma | i've never seen such a horrible alliance group in pvp |
| 12:23.06 | Mikma | 10vs8 and horde still managed to capture the flag and take it from the base like 10 times |
| 12:23.15 | Mikma | i wasn't able to even get out of their base with flag |
| 12:23.21 | Elkano | s/ one / won / |
| 12:23.22 | Mikma | there was 1 shaman defending... |
| 12:23.32 | MoonWolf | a! |
| 12:24.10 | Elkano | (note: only countries can participate) |
| 12:25.06 | Mikma | i'm getting really bored at wow |
| 12:25.21 | Mikma | seems like every character i make sucks |
| 12:25.59 | CIA-7 | 03thiana * r4486 10BabbleLib/Spell/BabbleLib-Spell.lua: BabbleLib-Spell: Added frFR translation for Lockpicking |
| 12:32.04 | FryGuy | are you in europe Elkano? :p |
| 12:32.57 | Elkano | yes |
| 12:33.17 | Elkano | is it that obvious? ;) |
| 12:34.56 | ag` | Does anyone know of a good improved quest log? |
| 12:35.03 | ag` | Anything on the SVN maybe? |
| 12:36.27 | Neronix | QuestsFu might be what you're looking for |
| 12:36.37 | ag` | I'll check it out thanks |
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| 12:39.03 | CIA-7 | 03ag * r4487 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Defaults.lua ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): |
| 12:39.03 | CIA-7 | ag_UnitFrames - |
| 12:39.03 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:39.03 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:42.19 | wereHamster | who did bruteforce-check the checksum function? |
| 12:43.58 | Elkano | ag, improved in what? |
| 12:45.00 | ckknight | wereHamster, clad |
| 12:45.09 | ag` | Elkano, improved? |
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| 12:45.23 | Elkano | <ag`> Does anyone know of a good improved quest log? <-- |
| 12:45.54 | Slayman | ckknight: [14:46-275] GloryLib\Glory-2.0\Glory-2.0.lua:508: bad argument #1 to `find' (string expected, got nil) On entering AV horde just yo you know |
| 12:45.55 | wereHamster | ckknight, did he find a collision? and how did he test? |
| 12:46.29 | ckknight | wereHamster, for all known guilds, no collisions |
| 12:46.30 | Elkano | does resized fall under improved for you? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full1949.jpg |
| 12:46.39 | ckknight | for arbitraty letters, not sure |
| 12:46.46 | ag` | Elkano, I used QuestFu now, it's nice |
| 12:47.16 | Elkano | it is, but it also uses the default UI to some extend |
| 12:47.21 | ag` | That screenshot looks nice too |
| 12:47.32 | ag` | What is it? |
| 12:47.37 | Elkano | well, it's my FramesResized -> http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4547 |
| 12:47.57 | Elkano | it's only more lines, nothing more, nothing less |
| 12:48.30 | wereHamster | ckknight, because the algorithm can overflow.. |
| 12:48.40 | ckknight | wereHamster, technically no |
| 12:48.57 | wereHamster | 30chars per guild name, right? |
| 12:49.05 | ckknight | because guilds can't be long enough to get the value > 1e305 |
| 12:49.12 | ckknight | right |
| 12:49.26 | ckknight | the amount of chars it takes is close to 60 I think |
| 12:49.34 | ckknight | or something |
| 12:50.01 | ag` | trying them out, thanks Elkano |
| 12:50.02 | ckknight | the highest that still works: The quick brown fox jupmed over the lazy dogThe quick brown fox jupmed overaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 12:51.18 | wereHamster | a double can't precisely hold 1e300.. there will be rounding errors |
| 12:53.12 | ckknight | well, as long as algorithm stays the same,and guilds don't get longer, there won't be issues |
| 13:01.21 | MoonWolf | I have a feeling that means writing with blood |
| 13:01.24 | MoonWolf | making it a cool title |
| 13:01.30 | MoonWolf | and the band name is good too. |
| 13:08.43 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4488 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - now fires AceEvent_PostInitialize after all channels have loaded. |
| 13:09.08 | ckknight | sleeping... |
| 13:14.39 | MoonWolf | nigt |
| 13:20.58 | phyber | when you have the number on an actionbar button, like for soul shard bags or water, is there an easy way to get them name of it so it can be hidden? |
| 13:22.14 | Elkano | well, look at the template |
| 13:22.40 | Elkano | if they aren't done by template, maybe they are children? |
| 13:42.28 | Mikma | ooh nice |
| 13:42.37 | Mikma | framesresized! gotta test it now |
| 13:44.23 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 13:44.25 | wereHamster | why isn't clad here? He's posting to the US forum.. |
| 13:44.40 | wereHamster | .. he has to be awake |
| 13:45.22 | Mikma | clad|sleep: you are not sleeping. |
| 13:45.33 | wereHamster | ah.. there he is |
| 13:47.42 | wereHamster | clad, I find your last post kinda funny.. "If we did something that pissed off the majority of the userbase with unsolicited spam on the standard channels" -- you mean like CTRA spam in the raid channel? for example '** tranq shot now ***' is spam for 95% of the raid members, because only hunters can use that info. |
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| 13:50.53 | wereHamster | and it isn't any better with BigWigs.. the spam just changed to the raid-warning channel |
| 13:55.15 | Shyva | BossBlock ftw :) |
| 13:55.24 | wereHamster | link? |
| 13:55.34 | Shyva | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1435.0.html |
| 13:58.27 | wereHamster | does that also block BigWigs spam sent through the raid-warning channel? |
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| 13:59.08 | Shyva | Don't know for sure, but I think it does |
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| 14:01.38 | wereHamster | it hooks the raid-warning frame, but it doesn't filter the BigWigs messages because they don't have the '***' in them |
| 14:03.52 | Shyva | The messages do have the *** thingies if you send them with BigWigsRaidWarn.. |
| 14:04.40 | [Ammo] | wereHamster: just turn of the tranq warnings in your own bigwigs then |
| 14:08.24 | Tekkub | wH what program is relaying BW messages without the ***'s? |
| 14:08.48 | [Ammo] | I think he's referring to the silly default bigwigs |
| 14:08.53 | [Ammo] | defaults to the RW frame |
| 14:08.58 | [Ammo] | and he's complaining about those messages |
| 14:09.04 | Tekkub | oh, meh.. you don't want them delete messages.lua |
| 14:09.09 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 14:09.20 | Tekkub | simple solution, thank you modular design |
| 14:10.17 | Shyva | Tekkub, can you check if this is correctly converted: http://ace.pastebin.ca/84071 ? |
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| 14:11.29 | Mikma | ag`: does your unitframes support placesaving now? :) |
| 14:11.39 | Mikma | ag`: and clique? ;) |
| 14:11.47 | ag` | It saves positions fine |
| 14:11.59 | ag` | except that I currently made it reset settings at each reloadui |
| 14:12.19 | ag` | makes it easier for me to add new things |
| 14:12.35 | Mikma | ag`: alrighty i'll wait then before testing it out |
| 14:12.56 | Mikma | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3908-1-special-talent.html |
| 14:13.13 | ag` | Mikma, it's only one line in the addon init called self:Reset() |
| 14:13.21 | ag` | remove that and it's normal :P |
| 14:13.35 | Tekkub | Shyva, doe it work? :) |
| 14:13.39 | Mikma | ag`: i still wan't the clique before i put it on heavy testing |
| 14:13.42 | Tekkub | trigger it manually and test it |
| 14:13.50 | ag` | sure Mikma |
| 14:13.59 | Shyva | ok, no syntax error afaik :) |
| 14:14.11 | Shyva | how should I add the toggleoptions Tekkub? |
| 14:14.27 | Mikma | ag`: you see i don't wan't to switch between unitframes every now and then ;D that's why i stick with the one i'm using no matter is it buggy |
| 14:14.28 | Tekkub | and you wont' need to mixin AceEvent, one I commit up my changes |
| 14:14.39 | ag` | yep |
| 14:14.46 | Tekkub | make the table but comment it out for the moment |
| 14:14.47 | Shyva | ah, ok, will remove them :) |
| 14:14.52 | Tekkub | I'm still working on that part |
| 14:15.06 | Tekkub | cause the commandline and menu will be generated off that |
| 14:15.08 | Mikma | ok now... let's have a look at metrognome autohide |
| 14:15.24 | Shyva | and the disable part wasn't really clear to me either :) (death trigger) |
| 14:16.36 | Tekkub | there Shyva |
| 14:16.36 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub 07Ace2 * r4489 10BigWigs/ (Bars.lua Core.lua Messages.lua Sound.lua ZG/Hakkar.lua): |
| 14:16.36 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Ace2 Branch) |
| 14:16.37 | CIA-7 | - Modules no longer need to declare ACeEvent or AceDebug as mixins |
| 14:16.44 | Shyva | :-D |
| 14:16.55 | ag` | Ok, so how do I add clique support Mikma |
| 14:17.09 | ag` | and is clique Ace2? |
| 14:17.15 | Shyva | why did you outline this: self:ToggleModuleStandby(false) in hakker.lua? is it not needed? |
| 14:17.40 | Mikma | ag`: i think clique isn't ace2'd |
| 14:17.45 | ag` | ok |
| 14:17.46 | Mikma | ag`: just check out the... |
| 14:17.52 | ag` | wiki? |
| 14:18.07 | Mikma | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Clique/Plugins/ |
| 14:18.14 | Tekkub | Shyva: I wast still working on module disabling |
| 14:18.31 | Tekkub | I still am working on core, you might not want to convert modules yet |
| 14:18.45 | Mikma | ag`: http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Clique/Plugins/Clique_MG2-64PRE4.lua |
| 14:19.16 | Shyva | Tekkub: ah, ok :) I just started working, can always change things ;) |
| 14:19.24 | ag` | Mikma: http://www.wind-force.net/mg2-64pre5-sairen.zip |
| 14:19.42 | Tekkub | event stuff I'm done with, and th self.db bit |
| 14:19.55 | Tekkub | I'm messing with module enable/disable right now |
| 14:19.59 | Tekkub | and the options table |
| 14:20.18 | Tekkub | and I think Ammo's still tweaking CantdyBars |
| 14:20.31 | Shyva | and you might want to add Dewdrop 2.0, bablelib 2.0 etc :) |
| 14:20.48 | Tekkub | yea, I'm gonna, as I get there :P |
| 14:20.53 | Shyva | ^^ |
| 14:21.07 | FryGuy | what was the candybar demo mod? |
| 14:21.12 | Tekkub | also: "BigWigsMajordomo.texture1 = "Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Frost_FrostShock"," just ues a local :P |
| 14:21.14 | Shyva | eyecandy |
| 14:21.24 | Shyva | will do :) |
| 14:21.51 | Tekkub | and the other thing, if you use any reset methods... |
| 14:22.04 | Neronix | ag`: Clique is Deuced :P |
| 14:22.06 | Tekkub | the new design is gonna be, reset the module OnEnable |
| 14:22.16 | ag` | Deuced? |
| 14:22.26 | Neronix | Ace2'd |
| 14:22.31 | Tekkub | if you want a reset to happen, you'll fire off something like "BigWigs_RebootModule", self |
| 14:22.37 | Neronix | Deuce is an injoke name for Ace2 :P |
| 14:22.46 | Neronix | Blame Tek for that |
| 14:23.01 | Tekkub | that'll do a Disable, Enable and clear out the module's timers, bars, and do any other resetting you do onenable |
| 14:23.01 | Shyva | ah, so I should add the OnDisable reset things to OnEnable :) |
| 14:23.16 | Mikma | anyone knows what's the easiest way of doing autohide when mouseover goes off? :P |
| 14:23.25 | Tekkub | you shouldn't need any OnDisable in the end |
| 14:23.35 | Tekkub | you should just reset your local vars OnEnable |
| 14:23.39 | Shyva | ok :) |
| 14:23.52 | Neronix | Mikma: I think the frame scripts are OnEnter and OnLeave |
| 14:23.56 | Tekkub | scheduled events will clear OnDisable on their own |
| 14:24.06 | Tekkub | CandyBars, once finished, will too |
| 14:24.15 | Shyva | cool :-D |
| 14:24.15 | Tekkub | and Metro, once tweaked, will too |
| 14:24.33 | ag` | Mikma, I think I need to help of the Clique author to create the plugin |
| 14:24.49 | Mikma | clad|sleep: help ag` to create a plugin for ag_UnitFrames :) |
| 14:25.02 | Mikma | soon clad will scream to me "do it yourself!" |
| 14:25.06 | Shyva | one other thing Tekkub, I'd like it if we change the setcolor event for bars to use: SetGradient(name, gstart, gend), it looks so smooth :) |
| 14:25.45 | ag` | It seems pretty easy, but I am 100% sure what to do |
| 14:28.04 | Tekkub | Take that up with ammo, the bars are his thing ATM so he's free to change the events around to work with the new system |
| 14:28.20 | Shyva | will do :) |
| 14:31.32 | ag` | what timezone is clad|sleep in? |
| 14:32.58 | wereHamster | [Ammo], it's not my own messages that annoy me, it's those from the raid officers, and I can't tell them to STFU |
| 14:33.23 | Kaelten | hows it going guys |
| 14:33.34 | Shyva | then use bossblock wereHamster :-s |
| 14:33.43 | Mikma | hmmh |
| 14:33.47 | Shyva | yow Kaelten |
| 14:33.51 | wereHamster | BossBLock doesn't block BigWigs messages |
| 14:33.56 | Kaelten | hi Shyva |
| 14:33.59 | Mikma | seems like i have to hook the OnEnter and OnLeave for Buttons :P |
| 14:34.44 | Shyva | wereHamster, bossblock doesn't block your own messages, but it does block messages send by either ctra boss mods, or bigwigs _raidwarner... |
| 14:38.04 | wereHamster | Does BigWigs prepend/append '***' to the messages? |
| 14:38.20 | Shyva | bigwigs _raidwarner does, yes |
| 14:38.47 | Shyva | from bigwigs_raidwarner: SendChatMessage("*** "..msg.." ***", "RAID_WARNING") |
| 14:39.07 | wereHamster | argh.. how annoying |
| 14:39.53 | Tekkub | all bigwigs relayer SHOULD append that |
| 14:40.02 | Tekkub | but they shouldn't run the old ones |
| 14:40.10 | Tekkub | they should run raidwarn |
| 14:40.32 | Tekkub | are they running that BigWigs_CTRA or whatever it was, I don't know if it did that... |
| 14:40.42 | Tekkub | nonetheless, it's drpriciated |
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| 14:41.44 | wereHamster | Tekkub, "if CTRA suddenly started spamming up the raid channel" .. you don't feel like it does that already? I do.. but most people don't think so, that's why I think they wouldn't complain about a spammy addon... |
| 14:42.10 | Tekkub | wH, yes I do, that's why I'm working on this comm shit |
| 14:42.21 | Tekkub | it'll remove the few spams left in the channel |
| 14:42.26 | Tekkub | BROADCASTS |
| 14:42.59 | Tekkub | and ready checks :) |
| 14:43.02 | Tekkub | ~raready |
| 14:43.04 | purl | <CTRaid> tekkub has performed a ready check. |
| 14:43.29 | Tekkub | I was refering to the CTRA channel chatter though :) |
| 14:43.57 | wereHamster | what I wanted to say, Hazelwood isn't that wrong, people wouldn't complain when an addon started using the real raid channel for communication.. |
| 14:44.07 | wereHamster | most people.. |
| 14:44.17 | wereHamster | all who currently don't complain about CTRA |
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| 14:50.01 | Mikma | yay thunderstorm |
| 14:50.12 | Mikma | seems like i gotta shutdown the server soon |
| 14:53.39 | CIA-7 | 03werehamster * r4490 10ColdFusionShell/ (. ColdFusionShellEditor.lua ColdFusionShellEditor.xml): |
| 14:53.39 | CIA-7 | ColdFusionShell: |
| 14:53.39 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:55.07 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r4491 10Bartender/Core.lua: |
| 14:55.07 | CIA-7 | Bartender: |
| 14:55.08 | CIA-7 | - '/bar lock' renamed to '/bar move' (lock feature to come!) |
| 14:55.08 | CIA-7 | - Added a border to frames when mouseovered |
| 14:55.32 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace2 * r4492 10BigWigs/Bars.lua: |
| 14:55.32 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Ace2 branch): |
| 14:55.32 | CIA-7 | * Extended BigWigs_StartBar with an endcolor argument. |
| 14:55.32 | CIA-7 | * When this argument is set the bar will use a gradient to go from color to endcolor for the duration of the bar |
| 14:57.09 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace2 * r4493 10BigWigs/ZG/Hakkar.lua: |
| 14:57.09 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Ace2 branch): |
| 14:57.10 | CIA-7 | * Updated hakkars drain timer to use a gradient |
| 14:59.02 | FryGuy | :O |
| 14:59.03 | FryGuy | sexy |
| 14:59.06 | Tekkub | okey, I like discussions in wiki pages |
| 14:59.18 | Tekkub | none of that "quote and reply" bullshit |
| 14:59.28 | Tekkub | you just reply inline :) |
| 14:59.58 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 15:00.52 | [Ammo] | Tekkub: what do you think of supplying a table argument for color |
| 15:01.21 | [Ammo] | so I can do: self:TriggerEvent("BigWigs_BarStart", 10, {"Green", "Red"}, ... ) |
| 15:01.29 | [Ammo] | which will cause a gradient from green to red |
| 15:01.35 | [Ammo] | also supporting the old simple string ofcourse |
| 15:01.38 | wereHamster | Tekkub, It was actually the first time I replied to a discussion on a wiki page ;) |
| 15:02.12 | [Ammo] | I think I find the extra argument for the gradient a bit ugly but it works for now |
| 15:03.16 | Tekkub | Ammo: bars is basically your baby now :) |
| 15:03.16 | [Ammo] | k |
| 15:03.26 | [Ammo] | I want support for self:TriggerEvent("BigWigs_BarStart", 10, {{0,1,0,.2}, {1,0,0,1}} ... ) as well |
| 15:03.33 | [Ammo] | so it'll fade in while going from green to red :) |
| 15:03.45 | FryGuy | what about a 4th parameter of time |
| 15:03.52 | FryGuy | so you can do complex gradients :P |
| 15:03.55 | FryGuy | or how about this |
| 15:03.59 | [Ammo] | that's not supported in CandyBar yet |
| 15:04.02 | FryGuy | i'll add the complex gradient code |
| 15:04.03 | [Ammo] | but will in the future |
| 15:04.05 | wereHamster | Or a callback function? |
| 15:04.05 | Shyva | I already am bugging him for that FryGuy :p |
| 15:04.06 | FryGuy | :p |
| 15:04.24 | Tekkub | you may want a multi-color gradient too... like I could pass "Green", "Yellow", "Red" and it'd start green, be yellow at 50% and red at 1% |
| 15:04.31 | [Ammo] | hmm yeah |
| 15:04.41 | Shyva | that's what I asked him Tekkub ^_- |
| 15:04.42 | [Ammo] | a simple multicolor gradient would be easy |
| 15:05.01 | FryGuy | even the complex one is easy :/ |
| 15:05.10 | [Ammo] | go ahead and adjust CandyBar fryguy |
| 15:05.18 | FryGuy | okies |
| 15:05.22 | Shyva | ^^ |
| 15:05.28 | [Ammo] | just make sure you add the comments before every function! |
| 15:05.31 | FryGuy | nooo |
| 15:05.33 | [Ammo] | keep the inline documentation correct |
| 15:05.36 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:05.36 | FryGuy | i'll just make it one-line :p |
| 15:05.41 | [Ammo] | die |
| 15:05.55 | FryGuy | can I edit EyeCandy inside of CandyBar? |
| 15:05.58 | FryGuy | i mean other way around |
| 15:06.01 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:06.11 | [Ammo] | EyeCandy is just a handy testing mod |
| 15:07.08 | FryGuy | should there be an alpha? |
| 15:07.13 | [Ammo] | ofcourse |
| 15:07.20 | [Ammo] | (there is now already) |
| 15:07.23 | FryGuy | well |
| 15:07.30 | FryGuy | that determines if i have to add an alpha :p |
| 15:07.42 | [Ammo] | there is already alphachannel gradient |
| 15:07.56 | [Ammo] | check :SetGradient() and :Update() |
| 15:07.59 | Mikma | gah :P |
| 15:08.00 | FryGuy | i mean |
| 15:08.08 | FryGuy | in eyecandy there's not :( |
| 15:08.12 | [Ammo] | there is |
| 15:08.13 | Mikma | i really need to find a way to hook every buttons OnEnter and OnLeave :P |
| 15:08.16 | FryGuy | er wait |
| 15:08.19 | FryGuy | i'm just a retard |
| 15:08.31 | FryGuy | i saw a comma as a . |
| 15:08.35 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:09.17 | FryGuy | candybar:SetGradient("My bar", {{0,1,0,1}, {1,0,0,1}, {0,0,1,1}}) |
| 15:09.19 | FryGuy | is that syntax ok? |
| 15:09.25 | FryGuy | er |
| 15:09.42 | FryGuy | candybar:SetGradient("My bar", {{0,1,0,1,0}, {1,0,0,1,.25}, {0,0,1,1,1}}) |
| 15:09.51 | FryGuy | r,g,b,a,t |
| 15:09.54 | FryGuy | t=0 to 1 |
| 15:11.38 | FryGuy | also I've kind of been wondering |
| 15:11.53 | FryGuy | if you do that, can you reference an unnamed table as table[0]? |
| 15:12.06 | [Ammo] | table[1] |
| 15:12.07 | [Ammo] | afaik |
| 15:12.10 | [Ammo] | 1 is the first one |
| 15:12.14 | [Ammo] | ccheck how I reference the colors |
| 15:12.16 | FryGuy | ooh |
| 15:12.16 | FryGuy | no wonder |
| 15:12.30 | FryGuy | duuh |
| 15:12.36 | FryGuy | sorry it's kind of late for me :P |
| 15:12.38 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 15:12.39 | FryGuy | 8:12am |
| 15:13.27 | [Ammo] | hmm CIA refuses! |
| 15:13.48 | FryGuy | hey i'm not that fast :( |
| 15:14.00 | [Ammo] | naah |
| 15:14.07 | [Ammo] | I just commited the initial import for oRA2 |
| 15:14.15 | [Ammo] | but CIA isn't alive it seems |
| 15:14.29 | sedatedChipmunk | denizzied |
| 15:15.51 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4495 10oRA2/oRA2.toc: |
| 15:15.51 | CIA-7 | oRA2: |
| 15:15.51 | CIA-7 | * Cleaned up the .toc |
| 15:15.51 | CIA-7 | * warning: DO NOT USE oRA2 :) |
| 15:16.14 | wereHamster | why? |
| 15:16.52 | [Ammo] | because it's not complete :) |
| 15:17.09 | wereHamster | seems reasonable then.. |
| 15:17.20 | [Ammo] | the core works |
| 15:17.30 | [Ammo] | so you'll be sending versions etc and afk and dnd |
| 15:17.35 | [Ammo] | but the ready checks don't work yet |
| 15:17.43 | [Ammo] | which is the only module I've begun working on |
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| 15:18.18 | wereHamster | who needs the ready check.. 8-) |
| 15:18.26 | MoonWolf | mer |
| 15:18.32 | Mikma | ~raready |
| 15:18.33 | purl | <CTRaid> mikma has performed a ready check. |
| 15:18.33 | MoonWolf | me* |
| 15:18.44 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 15:19.37 | wereHamster | MoonWolf, don't you have TS/Vent? |
| 15:19.56 | MoonWolf | in a pug AV ? |
| 15:20.26 | CIA-7 | 03ag * r4496 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): |
| 15:20.26 | CIA-7 | ag_UnitFrames - |
| 15:20.26 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:23.27 | FryGuy | hmm |
| 15:23.29 | Tekkub | hrm... I havn't been uploading trunk BW to the sites since I started the branch... |
| 15:23.32 | FryGuy | what exactly does assert() do btw? :p |
| 15:23.34 | Tekkub | I should do that, no? |
| 15:23.48 | ag`_ | I want to know about assert() too! |
| 15:23.56 | [Ammo] | Tekkub: that might be a good idea |
| 15:23.57 | Tekkub | assert(test, msg) if not test then error(msg) |
| 15:24.02 | Mikma | i wan't to know about hooking actionbuttons! |
| 15:24.02 | FryGuy | hmm |
| 15:24.10 | FryGuy | so it pops up one of those windows :p |
| 15:24.17 | [Ammo] | FryGuy: type this in Eyecandy: candybar:Start() |
| 15:24.21 | Tekkub | yes, get an Error Redirector :) |
| 15:24.24 | [Ammo] | without a name :) |
| 15:24.32 | [Ammo] | and you'll see |
| 15:24.49 | ag`_ | I need clad|sleep |
| 15:24.52 | ag`_ | to wake up |
| 15:25.08 | MoonWolf | i think he is sleeping. |
| 15:25.14 | Tekkub | hrm... I should write up a simple error redicect, a proper one for mod errors not the overhead "that's not ready" and shit that the current Error Redirect does |
| 15:25.23 | MoonWolf | working i mean |
| 15:25.29 | hyperChipmunk | nah, hea's at work |
| 15:25.30 | hyperChipmunk | email him |
| 15:25.43 | Tekkub | BTW ammo, CandyBars are very purdy and easy to read, they look nicer than Timex bars |
| 15:25.53 | FryGuy | heh |
| 15:25.54 | MoonWolf | yes |
| 15:25.56 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 15:25.58 | FryGuy | how do they look nicer? |
| 15:25.59 | MoonWolf | candybars has potential |
| 15:25.59 | hyperChipmunk | *hint* *hint* |
| 15:26.01 | MoonWolf | for a lot of things. |
| 15:26.07 | [Ammo] | well tekkub the code is inspired upon metrognome |
| 15:26.09 | [Ammo] | as you might have noticed |
| 15:26.22 | [Ammo] | and I tried to keep the code clean and documented per function |
| 15:26.23 | Tekkub | and I love that you use a darker shade of the bar color for the background |
| 15:26.32 | [Ammo] | I use a standard shade |
| 15:26.36 | [Ammo] | I could use a darker shade |
| 15:26.47 | [Ammo] | but right now it's just a standard gray with .25 alpha |
| 15:26.53 | Tekkub | I swear green bars have a dark green background |
| 15:26.56 | hyperChipmunk | to set off your lovely bars |
| 15:26.59 | Tekkub | oh maybe that's why |
| 15:27.09 | [Ammo] | all bars have the same BG |
| 15:27.18 | Tekkub | grey looks like all colors :) |
| 15:27.19 | [Ammo] | but you can do SetBackgroundColor() if you want |
| 15:27.21 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:27.45 | FryGuy | i have a reallly bad feeling about this code |
| 15:27.48 | Tekkub | nah it's fine, the optical illusion of color due to it being next to a color works ^^ |
| 15:28.14 | FryGuy | i put an ace:print inside the update() function |
| 15:28.33 | [Ammo] | that won't work I think |
| 15:28.43 | [Ammo] | since this is Ace2 but I'm not sure |
| 15:28.56 | [Ammo] | I used: UIErrorsFrame:AddMessage() for debugging in update() |
| 15:28.57 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:29.47 | FryGuy | well I got ace installed still |
| 15:29.49 | [Ammo] | ah ok then it'll work |
| 15:31.58 | Tekkub | ckk awake? |
| 15:34.57 | MoonWolf | went to bed 4 or so hours ago. |
| 15:35.14 | Tekkub | I'll find me own answer then |
| 15:35.45 | MoonWolf | we had lots of fun burning AL down though |
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| 15:35.48 | MoonWolf | he went totally emo |
| 15:36.03 | Tekkub | hehe |
| 15:36.06 | Kaelten | burning AL? |
| 15:36.20 | hyperChipmunk | more 'wah wah you're not using Sky' |
| 15:37.05 | hyperChipmunk | 'we want a community solution' |
| 15:37.18 | MoonWolf | ckknight was trying to brainstorm in wowi-lounge and every new idea/question/suggestion was met with, why don't u use sky, sky already does that. |
| 15:37.30 | hyperChipmunk | 'i had a community of nearly a half dozen work this all out in beta' |
| 15:37.37 | Kaelten | are we talking about the comm standard? |
| 15:37.40 | MoonWolf | yes |
| 15:37.44 | Tekkub | is AL a retard and does not understand that there are people that won't use his work, for whatever reason |
| 15:37.57 | Tain | He is a little whiny, but of course the willingness of some people (I do not exclude myself) to poke at buttons doesn't make it any nicer of course. |
| 15:38.10 | Mikma | oh man AL was pissed when ckknight owned him with an emo joke |
| 15:38.15 | hyperChipmunk | problem is, someone needs to just bluntly say his code sucked |
| 15:38.26 | Kaelten | lol |
| 15:38.28 | Tain | Actually HC the problem is partially not even his code. |
| 15:38.28 | hyperChipmunk | and nobody wants to use it |
| 15:38.32 | Mikma | i can i can! |
| 15:38.41 | Mikma | since nobody likes me i can say it to him |
| 15:38.43 | hyperChipmunk | it's friggin 8000 lines for a comm lib |
| 15:38.50 | Ratbert_CP | Of course, I'd bet a *lot* of peoples code suked at one time or another... |
| 15:39.05 | hyperChipmunk | sure, only difference is we don't have a problem saying it |
| 15:39.11 | Kaelten | One problem I have with cosmos's libs in general is that, I'M NOT CODING IN JAVA! DAMNIT! |
| 15:39.18 | hyperChipmunk | he wants code he wrote in beta to last until the servers are closed |
| 15:39.32 | hyperChipmunk | and doesn't see what's unreasonable about that |
| 15:40.14 | Kaelten | I don't like the name space solutions personally |
| 15:40.22 | Ratbert_CP | Wait, wait... a "community of about half a dozen"? Since when is six a community? Maybe a cheering section or official ass-cleaning team, but not a "community"... |
| 15:40.26 | wereHamster | Kaelten, why do you thing thweir code is written like java? |
| 15:40.36 | Neronix | Mikma: Still having trouble hooking OnEnter/OnLeave? |
| 15:40.43 | hyperChipmunk | Ratbert_CP: you got it |
| 15:40.55 | Kaelten | wereHamster: at one point thats what they stated is that they were going for a java like library |
| 15:41.04 | hyperChipmunk | most of them dont' even code anymore |
| 15:41.15 | hyperChipmunk | and the people who code now want something different |
| 15:41.25 | Mikma | Neronix: yeah no skills |
| 15:41.41 | Neronix | frame:GetScript("OnEnter) ? |
| 15:41.50 | Neronix | Wait, are you using Ace2? |
| 15:41.54 | Mikma | no |
| 15:42.10 | hyperChipmunk | then you are a heathen and must be destroyed! |
| 15:42.11 | Neronix | k, guess we'll have to do it the raw way :( |
| 15:42.30 | Neronix | brb, double checking widget api |
| 15:42.50 | Mikma | and the problem is the frame OnEnter won't work since the frames aren't visible by default |
| 15:43.08 | wereHamster | I also try to export as few symbols as possible to the global namespace .. and you could argue that my addons are java-like.. |
| 15:43.26 | Neronix | Mikma: Make an dummy frame to go on top? |
| 15:43.51 | Mikma | Neronix: was planning on that but what would happen to buttons then |
| 15:44.05 | Mikma | the frame would have to be hidden but still allow the buttons to be pressed with mouse |
| 15:44.55 | Neronix | Look at how CardBars does it |
| 15:44.59 | Mikma | i tried |
| 15:45.04 | Mikma | but i really have no idea :D |
| 15:45.10 | Neronix | I'm looking right now and it uses a virtual overlay frame for each button |
| 15:45.26 | Kaelten | wereHamster: I could, I supose. and I don't put out a lot of global symbols either. Theirs (at least last time I used them, over a year ago now) just feel weird. |
| 15:46.57 | Neronix | Hmm, I can hardly understand it :( |
| 15:47.02 | CIA-7 | 03fryguy * r4497 10/trunk/ (CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua EyeCandy/EyeCandy.lua): |
| 15:47.02 | CIA-7 | CandyBar: Added complex gradients |
| 15:47.02 | CIA-7 | EyeCandy: Modified to demonstrate the new complex gradients |
| 15:47.06 | FryGuy | there. |
| 15:47.15 | Mikma | Neronix: welcome to the club, it's quite difficult for me too :) |
| 15:47.32 | FryGuy | so like 40 minutes or so.. not bad :p |
| 15:47.32 | Neronix | I'm starting to wonder whether I'm reading Rowne's code O.o |
| 15:47.51 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4498 10oRA2/Ready/Ready.lua: |
| 15:47.51 | CIA-7 | oRA2: |
| 15:47.51 | CIA-7 | * Incoming Ready checks / Votes should now pop up the shiny window |
| 15:47.59 | [Ammo] | thanks fryguy! |
| 15:48.06 | FryGuy | you're welcome |
| 15:48.13 | [Ammo] | I'll go check it out immediately |
| 15:48.13 | FryGuy | feel free to flog me on my coding/bugs :p |
| 15:48.16 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 15:48.36 | FryGuy | a stupid bug caused me like 30 minutes of that time too :( |
| 15:49.01 | FryGuy | if I knew the lua "break out of a loop" cmd, i wouldn't have had the problem |
| 15:49.27 | Shyva | just break, isn't it? |
| 15:49.41 | hyperChipmunk | yeap |
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| 15:49.49 | Neronix | Dammit, why can't people comment more :( |
| 15:49.59 | FryGuy | gah |
| 15:50.04 | FryGuy | if i had've known that :( |
| 15:50.07 | FryGuy | i was afraid to try it out heh |
| 15:50.31 | Neronix | you could use return too |
| 15:50.55 | hyperChipmunk | that breaks out of the entire function |
| 15:50.57 | hyperChipmunk | not just a loop |
| 15:51.04 | CIA-7 | 03ratbert * r4499 10BagBoy2/ (7 files): |
| 15:51.04 | CIA-7 | BagBoy2: We now have a functional system. Sorta... |
| 15:51.04 | CIA-7 | Rules work, as do Sell/Trash/Banking. |
| 15:51.04 | CIA-7 | Still need TinyPad (or other Lua console) to interact. |
| 15:51.41 | Neronix | hyperChipmunk: Which is why I said "could" :P |
| 15:52.00 | Neronix`afk | Mikma: I'll have another look later |
| 15:52.08 | Mikma | Neronix`afk: kk, have fun |
| 15:53.03 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r4500 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.lua: AuldLangSyne: One last change as fallout from changing RegisterDefaults. |
| 15:53.56 | [Ammo] | cool fryGuy that looks pretty! |
| 15:54.02 | FryGuy | ty |
| 15:54.13 | FryGuy | yay for math 150 |
| 15:54.16 | [Ammo] | did you leave a 'bravo' print in there? |
| 15:54.19 | Ratbert_CP | Is Tem still the AceGUI-2.0 whipping boy? Or can I use Kaelten? ;) |
| 15:54.20 | FryGuy | bravo? |
| 15:54.29 | FryGuy | no i was wondering what that was :p |
| 15:54.31 | [Ammo] | something printed 'bravo' in my chat window :) |
| 15:54.35 | FryGuy | i thought you put it there |
| 15:54.38 | [Ammo] | I didn't |
| 15:54.44 | Kaelten | Tem still says he's going to do AceGUI-2.0 |
| 15:54.57 | FryGuy | yay! |
| 15:54.58 | Ratbert_CP | "Going to do"? Not "Doing"? |
| 15:55.16 | Kaelten | I think he's already started work on it |
| 15:58.05 | Tem | but Tem is going to be late for work if he stays around to chat |
| 15:58.18 | Ratbert_CP | Hey! How come I don't have a winning lottery ticket? |
| 15:58.27 | Ratbert_CP | Dang! |
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| 16:06.20 | hyperChipmunk | is there a demo addon for CandyBar? |
| 16:06.37 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 16:06.39 | [Ammo] | EyeCandy |
| 16:06.45 | hyperChipmunk | =D |
| 16:06.48 | [Ammo] | download and type: /eyecandy test |
| 16:06.54 | [Ammo] | the big bar is the pretty one :) |
| 16:07.04 | FryGuy | the big bar is the one I made, so it's the sexiest :p |
| 16:07.07 | hyperChipmunk | very apropos |
| 16:07.10 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 16:07.11 | FryGuy | er. *cough* |
| 16:07.14 | [Ammo] | thanks for the maths fryguy |
| 16:07.16 | [Ammo] | it looks sweet |
| 16:07.27 | FryGuy | oh you can change that line that's like "blah blah i'm lazy" |
| 16:07.32 | FryGuy | and distribute it out |
| 16:07.35 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 16:07.38 | FryGuy | i think the 1 mult 3 adds is faster |
| 16:07.42 | FryGuy | than 2 mults 1 add |
| 16:08.02 | FryGuy | adds are like.. 1 cycle and mults are 8? |
| 16:08.02 | [Ammo] | don't really care |
| 16:08.31 | [Ammo] | but I do thank you for your work, it make CandyBar's truly stand out from any other bars :) |
| 16:09.04 | [Ammo] | now to update BigWigs Ace2 with some gradients ;) |
| 16:09.06 | hyperChipmunk | thats nice |
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| 16:11.38 | Mikma | sexy bars |
| 16:11.56 | [Ammo] | I'll change bigwigs so you can give a table to the color argument |
| 16:12.25 | [Ammo] | so {"Green", "Yellow", "Orange", "Red"} |
| 16:12.32 | [Ammo] | and it'll create a gradient out of those |
| 16:12.52 | FryGuy | oh |
| 16:12.57 | FryGuy | add something else to make it even |
| 16:13.01 | FryGuy | if they don't give [5] |
| 16:13.45 | [Ammo] | hmm? |
| 16:13.46 | FryGuy | so gtable[i][5] = (i-1) / (table.getn(gtable)-1) |
| 16:13.51 | FryGuy | if they don't specify |
| 16:13.57 | FryGuy | instead of asserting |
| 16:14.37 | [Ammo] | I don't follow |
| 16:15.25 | [Ammo] | oh in CandyBar if you just pass a table of colors it'll make an even distribution |
| 16:15.44 | FryGuy | yes |
| 16:16.02 | [Ammo] | sorry I had to bend my mind around your comment :) |
| 16:16.35 | [Ammo] | I have to go now |
| 16:16.38 | [Ammo] | so I'll add it later tonight |
| 16:16.52 | FryGuy | later ammo :p |
| 16:17.09 | [Ammo] | BBQ time etc, and wife will be angry if I'm not home in time ;) |
| 16:18.53 | ag`_ | should I update the player window on PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED? |
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| 16:35.08 | Jagobah | FuBar makes me sad :( |
| 16:35.18 | CIA-7 | 03thiana * r4502 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (Core.lua FuBar_tcgTradeskills.toc): FuBar_tcgTradeskills: Fixed nil error when purging a char |
| 16:35.25 | Jagobah | is there a thread that discusses the profile issues? |
| 16:35.31 | Tuplad | no |
| 16:35.46 | Tuplad | ckknight said that Ace profile system is bugged |
| 16:35.50 | Tuplad | and that FuBar will get lots of love in Ace2 |
| 16:36.11 | FryGuy | lots of love :O |
| 16:36.32 | Jagobah | :O |
| 16:37.41 | Tuplad | :D |
| 16:37.46 | Jagobah | ^_^ |
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| 16:38.51 | Amadeo | :D |
| 16:38.59 | Tuplad | hmm |
| 16:39.41 | Tuplad | Is this possible: a mod scans my combat log, if someone in let's say, pvp, attacks me - it auto targets him, but in pve, lets say, there are shitload of Big Bad Wolves around, and if one of them attacks me, is it possible to target HIM and not anyone else ? |
| 16:40.25 | Mikma | yes |
| 16:40.37 | mjc | Tuplad: doesn't sound hard, write it |
| 16:40.53 | Tuplad | >_> cant code, not planning to learn either, just asking if its possible |
| 16:41.14 | mjc | it's not hard |
| 16:41.47 | mjc | you could probably even make a macro to target last attacker |
| 16:41.52 | mjc | which is kind of what you wanted |
| 16:41.56 | mjc | but much easier :p |
| 16:41.56 | Tuplad | :O |
| 16:42.15 | Tuplad | what functions do I have to use ? ;( |
| 16:42.31 | mjc | wowwiki.com has an api list |
| 16:42.37 | Mikma | Tuplad: function something() end |
| 16:42.42 | ag`_ | You would have to parse a combat log event |
| 16:42.42 | Tuplad | :D |
| 16:42.44 | mjc | Mikma: :D |
| 16:43.30 | Tekkub | argh |
| 16:43.43 | Tekkub | forcing a module to be disabled at load is proving to suck |
| 16:43.59 | Tekkub | I can get it to be disabled, but then it won't toggle properly |
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| 16:46.22 | mjc | I should figure out how to make kc_items ignore outrageous prices |
| 16:46.30 | Tuplad | :o |
| 16:46.45 | Tuplad | mjc: what's outrageous to you ? |
| 16:46.49 | Tuplad | foror's costs 8k g on our server |
| 16:46.58 | Tuplad | and phantom blade costs 75g |
| 16:47.10 | ag`_ | can you say gold duping |
| 16:47.14 | Tuplad | and the server is 2 years old, and has alts in tier 2 |
| 16:48.01 | ag`_ | no matter how old a server is, noone would ever pay 5k for forors... Unless huge inflation caused by duping, hack farming, etc |
| 16:48.14 | Tuplad | ag |
| 16:48.22 | ag`_ | yep |
| 16:48.23 | Tuplad | 10 have been bought in a week |
| 16:48.31 | Tuplad | you wouldnt buy it, but on our server they do |
| 16:48.54 | ag`_ | If a guild saves up for it together I can see it happening legit |
| 16:49.21 | Tuplad | I have 6000g on my level 51 |
| 16:49.29 | Tuplad | got it by playing with AH |
| 16:49.30 | ag`_ | How the hell did you get that? |
| 16:49.32 | ag`_ | lol.. |
| 16:49.40 | Tuplad | I had 2k at lvl 30 |
| 16:49.46 | Tuplad | and I have 21 days played >_> |
| 16:49.52 | ag`_ | It must be inflation due to hacking :P |
| 16:50.05 | Tuplad | -_-" |
| 16:50.10 | Mikma | teabagging! |
| 16:50.13 | Tuplad | this is europe son, everything is possible |
| 16:50.26 | mjc | ag`_: unpossible |
| 16:50.33 | ag`_ | o rly? |
| 16:50.36 | mjc | :D |
| 16:50.42 | mjc | the ones around here are like 150G |
| 16:50.58 | phyber | :o |
| 16:51.06 | phyber | cheap. |
| 16:51.09 | Shyva | Tekkub, cann't you load a module without enabling it? like when you didn't call self.super.OnInitialize(self)? |
| 16:51.15 | phyber | they still go for stupid prices on Bloodhoof-EU |
| 16:51.46 | Tekkub | that's what I'm trying to do Shyva |
| 16:51.56 | Tekkub | the old self.diabled shit |
| 16:51.59 | ag`_ | Can you do AH events like buying, selling without player interaction? |
| 16:52.07 | Tekkub | but ugh, it's giving me a headache |
| 16:52.25 | Shyva | Ask Ckk when he wakes up :) saves you a headache :) |
| 16:52.34 | Tuplad | I play on bloodfeather EU, but my main with 51g is on boulderfist |
| 16:53.01 | Tekkub | last time I asked him he said to call ToggleModuleActive OnInit... |
| 16:53.02 | ag`_ | what guild are you in at boulderfist |
| 16:53.21 | Tekkub | but if I do that then the module doesn't unregister shit on disable |
| 16:53.28 | Shyva | :-| |
| 16:53.31 | Shyva | bugs! |
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| 16:53.57 | Tekkub | yea I'm gonna look at this more... |
| 16:54.38 | Tuplad | ag`_: brotherhood of steel |
| 16:54.47 | Tuplad | ag`_: you play there ? ;\ |
| 16:55.13 | ag`_ | have a friend there |
| 16:55.27 | Tuplad | Im alliance, named Royce |
| 16:55.28 | Tuplad | ask him ;) |
| 16:55.34 | ag`_ | ok :) |
| 16:55.35 | ag`_ | but he's moving to Ravencrest when possible |
| 16:55.39 | Tuplad | :o |
| 16:55.40 | mjc | how do I add stuff to mendeleev/PT's item list? |
| 16:55.52 | mjc | i have like 1,000 items that need loot table updates |
| 16:55.53 | mjc | :P |
| 16:55.57 | Tuplad | well so am I, Im on ignore of 80% of server's population, most known person aswell :] |
| 16:56.05 | mjc | hahaha |
| 16:56.10 | ag`_ | why are you on ignore :P |
| 16:56.12 | mjc | that should go in our /topic |
| 16:56.18 | ag`_ | Tuplad, you should move your 6k gold to Ravencrest and give 2-3k to me |
| 16:56.28 | Tuplad | ag`_: :( |
| 16:56.42 | Tuplad | mjc: :O |
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| 16:56.51 | Tuplad | ag`_: people owe me shitloads of money, gonna get it back first >_> |
| 16:56.52 | hyperChipmunk | can't |
| 16:56.59 | Tekkub | okey.. yea... her's the behavior... |
| 16:57.11 | Tuplad | <- Tem îòñîåäèíèëñÿ (Nick collision from services.) :o |
| 16:57.21 | ag`_ | Tuplad, you can't move more than 5k |
| 16:57.21 | hyperChipmunk | you can't transfer a character with over a certain amount of gold |
| 16:57.21 | Tekkub | OnInit I call ToggleModuleActive(module, false) |
| 16:57.30 | mjc | 5k |
| 16:57.31 | Tekkub | the modules' OnEnable still gets called |
| 16:57.33 | mjc | so he just has to transfer two |
| 16:58.02 | Tekkub | calling ToggleModuleActive(module, false) DOES NOT disable the modlue at this point... |
| 16:58.11 | Tuplad | o_O |
| 16:58.17 | Tekkub | so it runs even if you try to disable it |
| 16:58.18 | Tuplad | I dont have 2 chars there :\ |
| 16:58.21 | Tuplad | Im not even 60 there |
| 16:58.28 | Tuplad | all I did was earning money so I could buy loads of epic mounts at 60 |
| 16:58.29 | hyperChipmunk | Tekkub: owned |
| 16:58.53 | Tekkub | but then if you call Toggle true it calls OnEnable, and call Toggle false it calls OnDisable |
| 16:59.26 | Tekkub | so it's like, toggle is broken till you force it if you try to force it onload |
| 16:59.38 | Mikma | ag`_: how's the clique-plugin going? :) |
| 17:00.40 | Shyva | a function like self.super.OnInitialize(self), which does exactly the oposite thing would be really usefull :-S so instead of triggering OnEnable, it should prevent triggering OnEnable |
| 17:02.09 | Tekkub | yea, all I asked for was some means of flagging the mod as disabled on loadup |
| 17:02.18 | Tekkub | this toggle thing isn't working |
| 17:03.50 | Tekkub | core.modulePrototype:IsDisabledOnLoad() would work |
| 17:04.09 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 17:04.12 | MoonWolf | i joined wow |
| 17:04.20 | MoonWolf | and i was still in a party |
| 17:04.32 | MoonWolf | like 10 hours have passed since i logged that char out. |
| 17:04.43 | Mikma | MoonWolf: wouldn't that make it a raid? |
| 17:04.56 | MoonWolf | yes raid |
| 17:04.57 | MoonWolf | sorry |
| 17:04.59 | MoonWolf | but still |
| 17:05.04 | MoonWolf | pretty unusual |
| 17:05.07 | Mikma | yaeh has happened to me too sometimes :) |
| 17:05.14 | Mikma | not many times tho |
| 17:05.53 | Tem | happens to me all the time |
| 17:06.11 | Tem | I spent most of saturday sitting in the leftovers of our friday night pvp raid |
| 17:06.48 | Tekkub | right, enough of this I'm moving on, I'll ask ckk to give me an author-definable method that's called before the automatic OnEnable |
| 17:07.18 | Tekkub | just something that disables the automatic module Toggling |
| 17:08.30 | Mikma | zomg what a stupid program... "playing it straight" |
| 17:11.10 | Tuplad | http://warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=20803 lmao, best pvp video I've ever seen |
| 17:12.48 | MvA|Slayman | thats my UI http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7746/wowscrnshot0710061910215ai.jpg what's your opinion? |
| 17:15.00 | MoonWolf | to chaotic for my taste |
| 17:15.01 | Mikma | Tuplad: so what makes is best? |
| 17:15.04 | Tuplad | Slayman: this'll be mine opinion then :P user bartender to remove all the art in the mainbar |
| 17:15.13 | Tuplad | Mikma: the lowbie ganking and the music |
| 17:15.31 | Tuplad | and yeh, like MoonWolf said, too chaotic |
| 17:15.53 | Tuplad | you've got ALL fubar addons there ? o_o |
| 17:16.20 | Tem | slayman: I dislike multi-rowed FuBar and PRaid with backgrounds showing |
| 17:16.42 | Tem | also, you should move your buffs to the corner since you've moved the minimap |
| 17:17.21 | Slayman | Tuplad, then I'll have some ugly gaps around micromenu and bags and stuff, it's an Interface i can play with even if no addon's loading, i need the Background otherwise it's hard to see debuffs and stuff |
| 17:17.46 | Tuplad | hmmm . |
| 17:17.54 | Slayman | that minimap gap is intended as there is my TeamspeakOverlay |
| 17:18.04 | Tem | ah, ok |
| 17:18.08 | Tuplad | Bartender removes all the art in the mainbar, puts all the actionbars in lower left corner, bags & micromenu in righ corner |
| 17:18.19 | Tem | and Tuplad, not everyone likes that |
| 17:18.28 | Tuplad | I know, he asked for opinions ... |
| 17:18.34 | Tem | some people-- like me for example-- prefer the art |
| 17:18.51 | Slayman | actually there are 147 addons loaded ... and with the gryphons removed i like the mainmenubar |
| 17:18.51 | Shyva | I like the normal blizz art :) |
| 17:19.31 | Tuplad | kk |
| 17:19.43 | Tuplad | my job was to give my opinions and thoughts :) |
| 17:19.49 | Tain | I have to say, using Ventrilo with the G15 keyboard LCD is fantastic. |
| 17:19.51 | Tuplad | that art is too much tbh |
| 17:19.59 | Amadeo | Tain: Why's that? |
| 17:20.13 | Tain | No overlay of anything on the screen, details in the LCD for ventrillo. |
| 17:20.26 | Tain | Who's speaking currently. |
| 17:20.33 | Amadeo | That's really nice |
| 17:20.34 | Tain | (The main thing I use it for, has other stuff.) |
| 17:20.42 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/mikma.jpg |
| 17:20.59 | Tain | MyBindings broke my prtscreen button. |
| 17:21.02 | Amadeo | Tain: How does the keyboard feel overall, as far as typing etc? |
| 17:21.28 | Tain | It's decent, Amadeo. Better than most for me, but I also prefer a mechanical click keyboard like the old IBM's. |
| 17:21.40 | Amadeo | Me too |
| 17:21.42 | Tain | It's not like that, but the keys are less "mushy" than others. |
| 17:22.24 | Tain | I also play a lot more with the keyboard than mouse, so having a set of macro buttons along the left hand side helps me a lot. |
| 17:23.03 | Shyva | my UI: http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/8665/wowscrnshot0625062215426iy.jpg |
| 17:23.04 | Shyva | :) |
| 17:23.12 | Amadeo | Tain: I wish they made clicky keyboards still :( |
| 17:23.24 | Tain | They do! |
| 17:23.40 | Amadeo | well |
| 17:23.44 | Amadeo | that aren't reallye xpensive |
| 17:23.50 | Amadeo | and work well for gaming and such too! |
| 17:24.02 | Amadeo | like G15 Clicky Edition! |
| 17:24.18 | Tuplad | that's nice mikma |
| 17:25.01 | hyperChipmunk | unicomp ftw |
| 17:26.28 | Tain | http://www.pckeyboard.com/customizer.html |
| 17:26.33 | Tain | $49 |
| 17:30.02 | *** join/#wowace ag`___ (n=Andreas@0x535cbbaa.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 17:30.49 | Tuplad | MoonWolf: http://www.webwereld.nl/ref/newsletter/41914 |
| 17:30.50 | *** part/#wowace ag`___ (n=Andreas@0x535cbbaa.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 17:30.57 | *** join/#wowace ag`__ (n=Andreas@0x535cbbaa.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 17:31.40 | Mikma | yay simpsons |
| 17:32.43 | *** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 17:33.27 | Amadeo | I think it's funny when non-healers use Warstomp |
| 17:33.33 | *** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 17:33.37 | Amadeo | it doesn't benefit them at all, since it resets the melee swing |
| 17:34.53 | *** join/#wowace Tem_ (n=tardmrr@204.90.50.252) |
| 17:34.53 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem_] by ChanServ |
| 17:35.07 | Neronix`afk | Amadeo: Unless you have an instant strike ready to use |
| 17:35.23 | Neronix | But that still doesn't help much |
| 17:35.25 | Tem | FUCK YOU LSUSECURE |
| 17:35.36 | Neronix | O.o? |
| 17:36.38 | Amadeo | wow |
| 17:36.41 | Amadeo | TinyTip has GUI options now |
| 17:39.58 | phyber | Tem: IDCard.lua:63: attempt to call method `UnhookScript' (a nil value) |
| 17:42.36 | Tuplad | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7667194685876573666&q=funeral this is funny, old but funny |
| 17:42.40 | *** join/#wowace Tem_ (n=tardmrr@204.90.50.252) |
| 17:42.40 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem_] by ChanServ |
| 17:43.06 | Tem | ASDFASDF |
| 17:43.21 | Tuplad | same2u |
| 17:45.45 | Mikma | gank teh funeral! |
| 17:45.50 | Mikma | illidrama |
| 17:48.19 | Tuplad | yea |
| 17:48.26 | Tuplad | I laughed my ass off when I saw that movie for the first time |
| 17:48.52 | FryGuy | ungh |
| 17:49.09 | FryGuy | anyone know why dewdrop won't do checkboxes right for someone, but not me? |
| 17:50.50 | FryGuy | someone that doesn't have ace1 |
| 17:51.36 | Tem | http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/7982/ui3ok.jpg is my UI |
| 17:52.12 | ag`__ | Tem, what font are you using in the chat? |
| 17:52.18 | Tem | ClearFont |
| 17:53.16 | Tem | I hacked a bit on FuXPFu because I didn't care for it's bar display |
| 17:53.27 | Tem | the brood rep display is the result |
| 17:53.48 | ag`__ | ClearFont... Is that a font type, or an addon? |
| 17:53.51 | mjc | I love its display |
| 17:53.54 | mjc | ag`__: addon |
| 17:54.12 | ag`__ | link me :) |
| 17:54.14 | Tem | mjc, I didn't like the text, that's about it |
| 17:54.23 | Tem | kirkbirn.wowinterface.com |
| 17:54.27 | phyber | Tem: did you see the IDcard error that I pasted before you were disconnected? |
| 17:54.31 | Tem | kirkburn.wowinterface.com |
| 17:54.36 | Tem | phyber, no sure didn't |
| 17:54.44 | phyber | IDCard.lua:63: attempt to call method `UnhookScript' (a nil value) |
| 17:54.58 | Tem | oh, hmm |
| 17:55.09 | Tem | maybe that bit of the API was removed in AceHooks2 |
| 17:56.15 | Tem | phyber, that's really strange |
| 17:56.28 | hyperChipmunk | I had that problem when converting too |
| 17:56.30 | Tem | the wiki says that function exists |
| 17:56.36 | hyperChipmunk | I solved it by just using UnhookAll =P |
| 17:56.53 | Tem | I can't use UnhookAll in this case |
| 17:57.01 | hyperChipmunk | well then you suck |
| 17:57.02 | Tem | I'm just unhooking the OnSizeChanged script |
| 17:57.13 | Tem | I need to keep my SetHyperlink hook |
| 17:57.28 | hyperChipmunk | you truly fail, then |
| 17:57.36 | Tem | phyber, this is with the Ace2 version, yes? |
| 17:57.45 | phyber | Tem: yup |
| 17:58.42 | phyber | I can't reproduce it easily either. |
| 17:58.49 | phyber | it's happened to me twice at random now. |
| 17:58.56 | Tem | well it's either a really strange bug in my code, or a bug in AceHooks or a bug in AceOO |
| 17:59.24 | Tem | OR the api has changed and that function doesn't exist anymore |
| 17:59.36 | Tem | phyber, that should only happen whne you view a link that your client hasn't seen yet |
| 17:59.52 | ag`__ | what's going on at http://kirkbirn.wowinterface.com/? |
| 18:00.03 | Tem | ag`__, kirkburn.wowinterface.com |
| 18:00.03 | mjc | clearfont? |
| 18:00.26 | Slayman | the best part, i have the autobar mirroring a set of my G15 macrokeys, that's a neat idea of me :-D |
| 18:01.11 | Tuplad | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=9006955&p=1&tmp=1#post9006955 wtf, check second post, how's he doing that ? |
| 18:01.19 | Tuplad | he has an animated avatar :o |
| 18:01.41 | mjc | raptor mount? |
| 18:01.54 | hyperChipmunk | either a CM/Dev or an MVP |
| 18:02.25 | Tuplad | what's a mvp ? |
| 18:02.38 | hyperChipmunk | find out yourself |
| 18:02.58 | Tuplad | -_-" |
| 18:03.01 | Tuplad | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-general&T=8999586&P=1 this is sad. |
| 18:04.31 | Mikma | :D |
| 18:04.42 | Mikma | poor poot tuplad, get's teabagged |
| 18:05.17 | Tuplad | :D |
| 18:06.50 | mjc | archud needs to support fubar_tofu instead of flightmap :p |
| 18:07.49 | ag`__ | the ClearFont mod font is way too small for the text over the target unit |
| 18:08.22 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub * r4503 10PaintChipsLib/PaintChips-2.0/PaintChips-2.0.lua: |
| 18:08.22 | CIA-7 | PaintChipsLib |
| 18:08.23 | CIA-7 | - Added raid class colors to the included color list |
| 18:09.35 | Tem | text over the target unit? |
| 18:10.01 | ag`__ | yes |
| 18:10.06 | ag`__ | in the world |
| 18:10.08 | ag`__ | not on the interface |
| 18:11.08 | Mikma | ag`__: less talk more cliquesupport! |
| 18:11.39 | ag`__ | Mikma, can't until clad|sleep wakes the fuck up :) |
| 18:11.56 | ag`__ | or I get a wiki with some explainations |
| 18:12.10 | Mikma | ag`__: don't the plugins explain everything needed? |
| 18:12.46 | ag`__ | hmm |
| 18:12.58 | ag`__ | I tried to figure out what should be what, but I wasn't sure |
| 18:13.36 | ag`__ | it's especially because my onlick function is inside an class that I'm confused |
| 18:13.46 | Mikma | ag`__: have a look at the code of PerfectRaid. i think it has a perfect way of getting clique to work |
| 18:15.09 | ckknight | back |
| 18:15.22 | *** join/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce4.disney.com) |
| 18:15.33 | Tem | ckknight, why would phyber be getting this error? |
| 18:16.18 | phyber | IDCard.lua:63: attempt to call method `UnhookScript' (a nil value) |
| 18:16.18 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: got a little issue with findTableLevel |
| 18:16.25 | Tekkub | hey ckk, you said I should call ToggleModuleActive(module, false) OnInit to make the module not load up, correct? |
| 18:16.45 | ckknight | right, tek |
| 18:16.46 | hyperChipmunk | lol ckknight flooded |
| 18:17.01 | Tekkub | okey, that's not working right and it's causing this odd behavior: |
| 18:17.32 | ckknight | phyber, don't know, pastebin |
| 18:17.33 | Tekkub | the module's OnEnable gets called, calls to ToggleModuleActive(bsah, false) do not call OnDisable |
| 18:17.51 | hyperChipmunk | anyway, my issue: if a valid argument is entirely a substring of another valid argument, findlevel goes to the substring and ignores the existence of the other |
| 18:17.52 | ckknight | Tekkub, pastebin |
| 18:18.03 | Tekkub | and I think ToggleModuleActive(bsah) was thinking the module is disabled too... |
| 18:18.06 | phyber | ckknight: http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/IDCard/IDCard.lua |
| 18:18.51 | Tekkub | why is pastebin so slow anymore? |
| 18:19.03 | hyperChipmunk | ace.pastebin.ca ftw |
| 18:19.22 | Saroz_ | Anyone tested Sartura's Whirlwind in Bigwigs, it does nothing for me |
| 18:20.45 | ag`__ | what is IDcard? |
| 18:21.25 | Neronix | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1728786916114022978&q=don+hertzfeldt |
| 18:22.04 | Tem | ag`__, tardmrr.wowinterface.com |
| 18:22.30 | wereHamster | Tekkub, did you have tome to take a look at the checksum overflow issue described in the wiki discussion page? |
| 18:22.46 | Tekkub | ask ckk and clad, it's their code |
| 18:22.55 | ag`__ | Tem, what's there? |
| 18:23.07 | Tem | idcard desc |
| 18:23.32 | ag`__ | ah, ok |
| 18:27.03 | Tekkub | ckk |
| 18:27.04 | Tekkub | http://ace.pastebin.ca/84203 |
| 18:27.07 | wereHamster | clad's asleep, so ckknight, what do you think? |
| 18:27.17 | Tem | clad's not asleep |
| 18:27.19 | Tem | he's at work |
| 18:27.32 | Amadeo | Maybe both! |
| 18:27.59 | ag`__ | Tem, when does he get off |
| 18:28.12 | Tem | 5pm EDT |
| 18:28.31 | Mikma | ~seen clad|sleep |
| 18:29.02 | purl | clad|sleep is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 28 messages. Is idling for 15h 16m 3s, last said: 'night all'. |
| 18:29.02 | Tem | 2.5 hours from now |
| 18:29.02 | Tem | ~seen cladhaire |
| 18:29.09 | purl | cladhaire <n=jnwhiteh@cpe-69-202-110-177.twcny.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 17h 40m 35s ago, saying: ' boo'. |
| 18:29.09 | Mikma | ~botwhip |
| 18:29.14 | Mikma | 15h :P |
| 18:29.26 | mjc | clad|sleep: wake up :p |
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| 18:30.51 | Mikma | ag`__: it should be pretty simple to do the clique-support to your addons, also have a look on id_unitframes, indie made clique support in it |
| 18:31.05 | Tekkub | ~Dr. Tran |
| 18:31.07 | purl | Hickory smoked is so crazy what's wrong with you!? |
| 18:31.36 | phyber | is there a way I can trigger a slash command from within my script? |
| 18:31.50 | phyber | for example, if I mouseover a frame, I want a particular chat command to execute |
| 18:31.56 | phyber | (Ace2) |
| 18:31.57 | ag`__ | Mikma, is it possible to add clique support inside your own addon |
| 18:32.12 | ag`__ | I think that would suit me better |
| 18:32.19 | Mikma | ag`__: i think so, but plugins for clique are the best |
| 18:32.24 | ag`__ | hm |
| 18:32.26 | Mikma | let's have a look |
| 18:32.39 | Amadeo | ag`__: How's the UF coming? |
| 18:32.50 | Mikma | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/idUnitframes/Clique_idUnitframes.lua |
| 18:32.57 | Mikma | ag`__: there's indie's clique-support |
| 18:32.57 | ag`__ | is moving on pretty good |
| 18:33.01 | Mikma | coded withing his addon |
| 18:33.04 | ag`__ | ok Mikma |
| 18:33.23 | Mikma | ag`__: .toc loads that file last |
| 18:33.29 | ag`__ | yeah |
| 18:34.03 | ckknight | okay, I've had breakfast now |
| 18:34.11 | Mikma | ckknight: ok back to coding now ;) |
| 18:34.45 | Mikma | ckknight: hey dude, is there a easy way to hook ActionButton OnEnter and OnLeave (for autohiding the bars) |
| 18:36.02 | ckknight | probably |
| 18:36.11 | Mikma | nice. how? :D |
| 18:36.16 | Mikma | ckknight: or... |
| 18:36.45 | ag`__ | what does pairs(table) do |
| 18:36.46 | Mikma | ckknight: is there a way of creating a mouseover-frame on the position where the buttons are which will still allow you to click the buttons like you should be ablew |
| 18:36.56 | ckknight | ag`, gives you an interator |
| 18:36.59 | ckknight | iterator* |
| 18:37.17 | ag` | hm, what's that :( |
| 18:37.28 | ckknight | someone else handle Mikma's problem, I'm busy |
| 18:37.35 | Neronix | An iterator goes through something step by step |
| 18:37.38 | ckknight | now for a discussion on iterators |
| 18:37.41 | Neronix | for example: |
| 18:38.13 | Mikma | ckknight: hey i don't have a rush, i can wait like weeks :D |
| 18:38.28 | phyber | [19:36-1065] ...dOns\BulkMail\lib\Ace2\AceConsole\AceConsole-2.0.lua:842: attempt to call field `?' (a nil value) |
| 18:38.29 | Mikma | since i myself think bartender is pretty much complete now and all the extras are just extras |
| 18:38.30 | Neronix | for key, value in pairs(ATable) do print("Ooo.. There's a key called ".. key .. " in the table with a " .. type(value) .. " value!" |
| 18:38.31 | phyber | [19:37-1065] ...dOns\BulkMail\lib\Ace2\AceConsole\AceConsole-2.0.lua:618: attempt to call field `?' (a nil value) |
| 18:38.31 | ckknight | then why rush me the same time 3 other people did :-P |
| 18:38.46 | phyber | (From trying to '/bagslots standby' and then '/bagslots') |
| 18:38.57 | ckknight | phyber, k |
| 18:39.02 | Neronix | Basically, it iterates through each key/value pair in ATable |
| 18:39.04 | ag` | Neronix, but you don't need to do pairs(table) for that to work? |
| 18:39.09 | Mikma | ckknight: was just asking are they possible to do or not, sorry |
| 18:39.12 | ckknight | phyber, most recent version? |
| 18:39.19 | phyber | ckknight: yeah |
| 18:39.24 | ag` | I usually do for key, value in table do, and it works fine |
| 18:39.25 | Neronix | ag`: You mean "for k,v in ATable"? That's deprecated |
| 18:39.26 | phyber | this is different from the other standby issue |
| 18:39.35 | ag` | deprecated? |
| 18:39.36 | phyber | I can standby fizzle no problem now :) |
| 18:39.45 | ckknight | ag`, for k,v in table do translates to for k,v in pairs(table) do |
| 18:39.50 | ckknight | don't use the former. |
| 18:39.54 | Neronix | Not supported anymore. You do something else instead |
| 18:39.58 | ckknight | there are two common iterators |
| 18:39.58 | Neronix | in this case, pairs() |
| 18:40.02 | ckknight | pairs and ipairs |
| 18:40.06 | Neronix | there's alsi ipairs() |
| 18:40.08 | Neronix | ... |
| 18:40.10 | Neronix | I'm slow |
| 18:40.12 | ckknight | ipairs only works for numbers |
| 18:40.15 | ckknight | it's faster |
| 18:40.21 | ckknight | pairs works for everything |
| 18:40.23 | Neronix | ipairs works for keys that have integer values |
| 18:40.23 | Mikma | i think my fever is getting lower since i'm sweating like a pig in here |
| 18:40.28 | Neronix | ie, arrays and such |
| 18:40.59 | ag` | so basically "for k,v in table do" is the same as"for k,v in pairs(table) do" is the same, except I should use the "for k,v in pairs(table) do" |
| 18:41.11 | Neronix | correct |
| 18:41.16 | ag` | good, thanks |
| 18:41.21 | Neronix | np |
| 18:41.32 | Neronix | And a little note about ipairs |
| 18:41.56 | Neronix | if you have a table that has values for [1], [2] and [4] and you iterate through it with ipairs, it stops at 3 |
| 18:42.07 | Neronix | because it can't find 3 |
| 18:43.43 | phyber | ckknight: is there a way to trigger a slash command from within an addon? I want to trigger one of them when I mouseover a frame, for example. |
| 18:44.09 | Tekkub | phy are you trying to trigger your own command or osmoen elses? |
| 18:44.15 | phyber | my own |
| 18:44.22 | phyber | one of my toggles. |
| 18:44.27 | Tekkub | then just call your function directly |
| 18:44.33 | ckknight | phyber, you shouldn't, but yes |
| 18:44.47 | ckknight | yea, call the function directly. |
| 18:45.28 | phyber | my function() is in the set = |
| 18:45.29 | phyber | set = function(val) self.db.char.ShowReputation = val self:UpdateXPBar() end, |
| 18:45.49 | Tekkub | calling your own slash command is like triggering an event just that only you use instead of calling your event handler directly |
| 18:45.54 | Tekkub | it's just wasteful |
| 18:45.57 | phyber | I coudl write a small function to do it outside of that too, but I wanted to use the code that already existed ;) |
| 18:46.17 | Tekkub | move the set to a local outside before the table |
| 18:46.27 | Tekkub | then set = thalocalfunc, |
| 18:46.41 | Tekkub | and call thatlocalfunc directly |
| 18:47.24 | Tekkub | you don't need to duplicate the function, just declare it at a scope where you can use it for both |
| 18:49.40 | Tain | Ack why did onebag broken |
| 18:50.48 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4504 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: AceConsole - added more error checking |
| 18:51.11 | ckknight | phyber, or just have it be a method. |
| 18:52.35 | ag` | Mikma, how do I use clique |
| 18:53.19 | ckknight | Tekkub, what was your issue? |
| 18:53.47 | Tekkub | I toggle off a modlue OnInit... |
| 18:53.52 | Tekkub | it's OnEnable is still called |
| 18:54.19 | Tekkub | and it's OnDisable can't get called until you "force" it to enable again... |
| 18:54.32 | Tekkub | cause the system seems to think it's disabled |
| 18:55.48 | Tekkub | Could you maybe just give us an :OverrideEnabling(module) method that could be called to prevent the automatic OnEnable call during loadup |
| 18:57.03 | Mikma | ag`: zomg! there's an extra button on your spellbook. press it. (the squirrel) |
| 18:57.25 | ag` | Mikma, nm I figured it out :) |
| 18:57.28 | Tekkub | I mean, "back in the day" self.disabled was all that was needed to prevent the Enable call |
| 18:57.31 | Mikma | ag`: then, let's say you wan't to use shift+leftmouse1 to cast Heal(Rank 1) on someone. then you shift+click on the spell |
| 18:59.13 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4505 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - big tweak |
| 18:59.22 | phyber | <3 AceConsole. Used every type of option it can have now, and it's great :) |
| 19:00.12 | Tekkub | "if not self.pew then" I love it! |
| 19:00.23 | phyber | yup! |
| 19:00.37 | hyperChipmunk | if not self.pew then tekkub.pew.pew.pew |
| 19:00.55 | hyperChipmunk | end |
| 19:01.04 | ckknight | self.pew? |
| 19:01.12 | Neronix | s/end/Tekkub:Die()/ |
| 19:01.14 | Neronix | end |
| 19:01.19 | Tekkub | if UnitName("minipet") == "White Kitten" then omg.kitty,kat.mew.mew.mew |
| 19:01.28 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 19:01.34 | ag` | What is a GetScript Method |
| 19:01.52 | Neronix | ag`: Fetches the functions for OnUpdate, OnEvent, etc |
| 19:01.55 | ckknight | ag`, frames use scripts like OnUpdate and OnEvent |
| 19:02.05 | Tekkub | ckk: just was looking at code involing PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 19:02.11 | ckknight | okay |
| 19:02.13 | ckknight | oh yea: |
| 19:02.26 | Neronix | conversely, frame:SetScript assigns a script to a frame |
| 19:02.33 | ckknight | I have come up with a possibly better event than PLAYER_LOGIN for :OnEnable() to use |
| 19:02.38 | Neronix | it's basically the lua equivelant of <OnWhatever> tags in XML |
| 19:02.43 | ckknight | it is called after all channels have been joined |
| 19:02.57 | Tekkub | :) |
| 19:03.01 | ckknight | it's AceEvent_PostInitialization |
| 19:03.02 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 19:03.11 | ckknight | but it works |
| 19:03.20 | Tekkub | slow ken needs to give us a YES_EVERYTHING_IS_INITIALIZED_NOW event |
| 19:04.22 | Neronix | .. _ YA_RLY |
| 19:04.34 | Neronix | I don't see why they can't add that. There's already an Auctioneer Yarly in UC :P |
| 19:06.18 | Gngsk | and O'reely in BB |
| 19:06.31 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4506 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - added AceEvent:IsFullyInitialized() and event AceEvent_FullyInitialized |
| 19:07.08 | Tekkub | Shouldn't that be AceEvent_IThinkWe'reFullyInitialized |
| 19:07.09 | phyber | grrrr |
| 19:07.11 | ag` | Can I hook a function in a class prototype? |
| 19:07.12 | phyber | fucking blizzard |
| 19:07.16 | phyber | "Server shutdown in 15:00" |
| 19:07.19 | phyber | 30 seconds later... |
| 19:07.23 | phyber | "server shutdown in 1:00" |
| 19:07.24 | Tekkub | poor fiber |
| 19:07.37 | phyber | they must live in a time paradox :p |
| 19:07.39 | ag` | method, that is |
| 19:07.45 | Tekkub | it was urgent... and that was sec:min not min:sec |
| 19:08.06 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, shouldn't do that :-P |
| 19:08.16 | hyperChipmunk | o rly |
| 19:08.23 | ckknight | AceEvent_FullyInitialized is what I propose OnEnable should use |
| 19:08.59 | ckknight | OnInitialize should still be ADDON_LOADED |
| 19:09.14 | hyperChipmunk | what if a trigger AceEvent_FullyInitializedForRealNow after I do so? |
| 19:10.27 | ckknight | what'd be the point? |
| 19:10.46 | hyperChipmunk | to to make sure i'm REALLY last! =D |
| 19:10.56 | ckknight | ... |
| 19:11.27 | ckknight | well, essentially, AceEvent_FullyInitialized is like chronos' afterInit, only coded good instead of bad. |
| 19:11.37 | ckknight | and it works instead of not working |
| 19:11.39 | hyperChipmunk | dude, I know what it is |
| 19:11.49 | hyperChipmunk | I'm just being a smartaleck |
| 19:11.52 | ckknight | alright |
| 19:12.01 | ckknight | I wasn't directing the statement just at you |
| 19:12.13 | ckknight | I was mostly gloating in my superiority in comparison to AL |
| 19:12.20 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 19:12.22 | hyperChipmunk | carry on, then |
| 19:12.30 | Neronix | Is the emo kid back yet? |
| 19:12.35 | ckknight | nope |
| 19:12.42 | kergoth | ckknight: i dunno if thats much of an accomplishment, being superior to AL, that is :P |
| 19:13.03 | ag` | I am trying to Hook a class prototype method, is it possible? |
| 19:13.03 | ckknight | kergoth, I just know that my code works consistently, his has no guarantees |
| 19:13.04 | Neronix | Yeah, even a nubcake like me's superior :P |
| 19:13.12 | ckknight | ag`, yes, theoretically |
| 19:13.14 | hyperChipmunk | and while you're at it, tell me why this errors, saying "attempt to call method `Hook' (a nil value)": http://ace.pastebin.ca/84237 |
| 19:13.41 | ckknight | simple, chip |
| 19:13.50 | hyperChipmunk | good, I was hoping it was |
| 19:13.54 | ckknight | AceConsole doesn't have AceHook-2.0 embedded in itself |
| 19:14.04 | hyperChipmunk | sec |
| 19:14.07 | ag` | ckknight, how would I get around doing it? I am trying add clique support for my addon, where the OnClick function is in a class |
| 19:14.17 | ckknight | and never call the external function manually, dude |
| 19:14.24 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastebin.ca/84238 |
| 19:14.43 | hyperChipmunk | you said to copy the Event =x |
| 19:14.46 | ag` | I can wait for an answer until you're less swamped I guess |
| 19:14.53 | hyperChipmunk | the event stuff was what was there, for reference |
| 19:15.08 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, Event does _NOT_ have that code in it |
| 19:15.17 | hyperChipmunk | AceConsole does =x |
| 19:15.20 | ckknight | ag`, I don't see what's so hard |
| 19:15.22 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, take it out. |
| 19:15.59 | ag` | How would I hook function aUF.aUFunit.prototype:OnClick(button) |
| 19:16.10 | hyperChipmunk | I'm not gonna take out something of which I have no idea how it works in the first place =x |
| 19:16.42 | Neronix | ag`: I don't think you need to do anything special because it's a prototype |
| 19:16.57 | CIA-7 | 03phyber * r4507 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: |
| 19:16.57 | CIA-7 | XPBarNone: |
| 19:16.57 | CIA-7 | - All options that were in AceXPBar should now be present in XPBarNone. |
| 19:16.57 | CIA-7 | - Removed HideAtCap option, it was pointless. |
| 19:17.16 | Neronix | just self:Hook(aUF.aUFunit.prototype, "OnClick", "MyNewOnClick") |
| 19:17.47 | Neronix | Wait, it's a frame script? |
| 19:17.54 | ag` | no |
| 19:17.55 | ckknight | it can't be |
| 19:18.00 | ckknight | Neronix is right |
| 19:18.02 | ag` | so that should work Neronix, I think |
| 19:18.03 | ckknight | just do what he put |
| 19:18.05 | ag` | yeah, it looks right |
| 19:18.15 | Neronix | self:HookScript(aUF.aUFunit.prototype, "OnClick", "MyNewOnClick") |
| 19:18.30 | ckknight | it's not a script. |
| 19:18.48 | Neronix | Ok |
| 19:18.51 | ckknight | ag`, calling the original funtion may be slightly complicated |
| 19:18.56 | Neronix | thought it was a frame script he was hooking |
| 19:19.19 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.38 | ckknight | stop calling the external function, goddammit |
| 19:19.44 | ckknight | it'll fuck things up |
| 19:19.45 | hyperChipmunk | that's your code |
| 19:19.49 | hyperChipmunk | that's the svn blame report |
| 19:19.59 | hyperChipmunk | =( |
| 19:20.07 | hyperChipmunk | I was just trying to be like you, man |
| 19:20.11 | ag` | now it seems to call the original method, but without any arguments. the hooked function isn't called |
| 19:20.21 | ag` | strange |
| 19:20.27 | ckknight | I see |
| 19:20.30 | ckknight | my bad |
| 19:20.31 | ckknight | weird. |
| 19:20.33 | ckknight | shouldn't be there |
| 19:20.46 | hyperChipmunk | *sniff* |
| 19:20.52 | ckknight | actually |
| 19:20.54 | ckknight | that can work |
| 19:20.55 | ckknight | sorta |
| 19:20.59 | ckknight | ah, fuck it |
| 19:21.01 | ckknight | don't mind me |
| 19:21.06 | ckknight | I'm gonna take a shower |
| 19:21.16 | hyperChipmunk | well it doesn't work for AceHook, at least=P |
| 19:21.16 | ckknight | too many people are barraging me at once |
| 19:21.39 | hyperChipmunk | well my completion function is done, but I can't hook it =P |
| 19:23.56 | ag` | maybe I should just move my OnClick method out of the prototype. |
| 19:26.41 | ag` | Ah. |
| 19:27.06 | ag` | When I hook that prototype method, things inside the method calling to self doesn't work properly anymore |
| 19:27.56 | hyperChipmunk | hoho I fixeded it |
| 19:28.19 | hyperChipmunk | forgot to declare AceHook as a local outside the function |
| 19:33.14 | ckknight | back |
| 19:33.25 | Tekkub | ckk, about the comm throttling... |
| 19:33.28 | ckknight | yea? |
| 19:33.53 | Tekkub | do you think it's okey to take the same stance with it as the drunk filter... "not required but highly reccomended"? |
| 19:34.02 | ckknight | no, completely required. |
| 19:34.12 | Tekkub | okey :P |
| 19:34.18 | ckknight | it has to be |
| 19:34.20 | hyperChipmunk | no, cuz then you'd get some tool spamming his itemdb in global three times per second |
| 19:34.24 | ckknight | otherwise everything breaks down |
| 19:34.33 | Tekkub | I'm moving that section off to it's own page tho |
| 19:34.38 | ckknight | okay |
| 19:34.41 | Tekkub | hC: people can still do that anywa |
| 19:34.43 | ckknight | I used math! |
| 19:34.52 | ckknight | they can, but they're douches |
| 19:34.57 | ckknight | hopefully it doesn't happen |
| 19:35.03 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but they'd have to do it themselves |
| 19:35.14 | hyperChipmunk | which is better than an addon that a thousand people download |
| 19:35.35 | ag` | Look at this, regarding the prototype hook problem... http://ace.pastebin.ca/84265 |
| 19:36.02 | hyperChipmunk | we need a name for the protocol, too, so addons can brand their compliance |
| 19:36.20 | ckknight | Addon Comm Protocol :-P |
| 19:36.48 | ag` | name it something with Ace to piss off that Cosmos guy |
| 19:36.49 | hyperChipmunk | ACP, hmm |
| 19:37.18 | Tekkub | cald agrees with me.. provide a standard for the throttle, but don't require it cause, well we can't enforce it and it's overcomplicating the standard |
| 19:37.20 | *** join/#wowace clad (i=jnwhiteh@fairfax.dreamhost.com) |
| 19:37.31 | clad | hi |
| 19:37.37 | Tekkub | and there he is |
| 19:37.37 | clad | wanted to give some input quick, then go back to work |
| 19:37.45 | clad | you can't force anyone to code a throttling queue. |
| 19:37.50 | clad | you can't force them to code the sobriety filter |
| 19:38.09 | clad | All we're doing is presenting a basic message formatr, the channel naming (including common code for the hash) and thats it. |
| 19:38.22 | *** join/#wowace Wobin (n=Wobin@203.118.52.133) |
| 19:38.36 | clad | you can make suggestions-- but you can't force anyone to do anything.. code a simple queue system and put it on the wiki as a suggested "throttling" mechanism.. but thats really it. |
| 19:38.40 | Mikma | ag`: how's it going? got any help yet? :) |
| 19:38.54 | Tekkub | we can provide means for a throttle and such and hope people use them, but some might not |
| 19:38.59 | clad | now hurry and respond, or take it to the forums, or onto googletalk =) |
| 19:39.05 | ckknight | clad, if people _don't_ use it, the entire system breaks down. |
| 19:39.05 | Wobin | Welcome to Singapore |
| 19:39.10 | clad | Tekkub: you can't evebn proivide the means, just basic code that they could implement if ythey want to. |
| 19:39.13 | clad | ckknight: What system? |
| 19:39.18 | ag` | It am not sure how to create that Clique plugin when my OnClick is an object method. I need clads help |
| 19:39.19 | ckknight | the communications system |
| 19:39.20 | clad | ckknight: All we do is make channel names, and have a message format. |
| 19:39.23 | hyperChipmunk | I know; we'll call it Addon Communications Exchange |
| 19:39.25 | clad | ckknight: there's no system there. |
| 19:39.28 | Tekkub | I'm gonna move the throttle stuff to it's own wiki page |
| 19:39.34 | Tekkub | lets use wiki discussion! |
| 19:39.38 | ag` | Mikma, so that's what's happening |
| 19:39.50 | ckknight | if people don't use it, you can be spammed by 4000 people at once all trying to get their voice heard |
| 19:39.51 | clad | just plain and simple, you aren't coding anyone else's library.. so you can't possibly enforce throttling. |
| 19:39.52 | Mikma | ag`: :D |
| 19:39.54 | clad | so id ont even know why there's a discussion. |
| 19:39.57 | Tekkub | hC: I ahte you |
| 19:40.04 | Wobin | Your home for the next 6 hours =( |
| 19:40.07 | ckknight | we can't enforce em to join those channels we want, either |
| 19:40.08 | hyperChipmunk | =D |
| 19:40.15 | clad | no we can't. |
| 19:40.19 | clad | we make suggestions. |
| 19:40.23 | ckknight | but to follow the protocol, they have to |
| 19:40.26 | clad | ckknight: Are you going to write Satrina's code? |
| 19:40.28 | clad | *shake8 |
| 19:40.33 | ckknight | otherwise they don't adhere to the protocol |
| 19:40.36 | clad | YOU CANT ENFORCE IT. Its 100% impossible. |
| 19:40.37 | clad | 100% |
| 19:40.41 | ckknight | I KNOW GODDAMMIT |
| 19:40.44 | ckknight | listen, you fuck |
| 19:40.47 | clad | .... so whats the problem? |
| 19:40.52 | Tekkub | this protocol is supposed to be simple damnit |
| 19:41.06 | ckknight | if we don't have a damn throttling system, people will be spammed to oblivion |
| 19:41.11 | Tekkub | overcomplicate it, people won't use it |
| 19:41.12 | clad | yes |
| 19:41.16 | clad | agreed |
| 19:41.19 | ckknight | which makes the whole thing not worth it. |
| 19:41.20 | clad | but that is an implementatino level detail |
| 19:41.25 | Tekkub | ckk: people can do that right now though! |
| 19:41.28 | clad | ckknight: its no different than it is now. |
| 19:41.35 | hyperChipmunk | if they don't throttle, then they can't say their compliant with the Addon Communication Exchange protocol |
| 19:41.42 | clad | why are tekkub and i the only ones who seem sane on this whole topic? ffs. |
| 19:41.55 | hyperChipmunk | s/their/they're/ |
| 19:41.59 | ckknight | I agree with chip |
| 19:42.03 | Tekkub | because ckk wants a robust protocol, we want a simple one? |
| 19:42.12 | ckknight | if you don't throttle, then you can't say you're compliant |
| 19:42.13 | hyperChipmunk | oh I know! |
| 19:42.15 | ckknight | I'm fine with that |
| 19:42.19 | clad | haha |
| 19:42.20 | clad | no one will care. |
| 19:42.22 | hyperChipmunk | we need to have a shiny gold seal! |
| 19:42.22 | clad | so have fun |
| 19:42.39 | hyperChipmunk | clad: it's the thought that counts |
| 19:42.44 | clad | ckknight: Code it in your own comm library, and put code up for other people to use |
| 19:42.52 | clad | ckknight: To think you can do anything else is a fools errand. |
| 19:43.00 | ckknight | that was the plan... |
| 19:43.09 | clad | Then whats the argument |
| 19:43.12 | hyperChipmunk | it lets us ostracize the douches |
| 19:43.13 | clad | its not part of the protocol |
| 19:43.23 | hyperChipmunk | and call them names |
| 19:43.28 | ckknight | if it's not part of the protocol, things break down... |
| 19:43.36 | clad | ckknight: How will it be part of the protocol? |
| 19:43.38 | clad | enlighten me. |
| 19:43.43 | clad | and how is it any different than our current situation? |
| 19:44.06 | ckknight | to your second question, it's not different |
| 19:44.13 | clad | it was rhetorical. |
| 19:44.16 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x503e99bc.virnxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 19:44.17 | clad | the other wasn't. |
| 19:44.20 | ckknight | to the first, do you really want your framerate to be halved because someone is spamming? |
| 19:44.27 | clad | ckknight: thats not what i asked. |
| 19:44.29 | clad | ckknight: answer my question |
| 19:44.35 | hyperChipmunk | hey wobin, you really gotta see the new tab-completion in aceconsole |
| 19:44.41 | hyperChipmunk | it's quite snazzy |
| 19:44.46 | Wobin | woo |
| 19:44.48 | hyperChipmunk | except I broke it |
| 19:44.52 | ckknight | to be part of the protocol, we set a standard that people use the raidTime, guildTime, and globalTime fields |
| 19:44.54 | Wobin | will it work with nonace addons? |
| 19:44.57 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 19:45.00 | Wobin | aw =( |
| 19:45.05 | ckknight | Wobin, it can't |
| 19:45.09 | clad | ckknight: you can't tell people how to code things. |
| 19:45.09 | clad | PRIORITY and THROTTLING are handled on the implementation side of things, and we can give code examples of what could and should be done-- but thats where it ends. |
| 19:45.12 | ckknight | there's no way to tell structure |
| 19:45.18 | Wobin | Ah |
| 19:45.20 | hyperChipmunk | unless you want to code a pseudo-AceOptions table for each one of them |
| 19:45.25 | Wobin | Oh, I was just meaning the initial command |
| 19:45.33 | Wobin | /kltm |
| 19:45.34 | ckknight | clad, I think priority should be completely implementation, but throttling necessary no matter the implementation |
| 19:45.40 | clad | yes |
| 19:45.41 | Tekkub | okey, moved throttling and drunk filter to their own pages |
| 19:45.43 | Wobin | cause that'd be cool |
| 19:45.45 | clad | but yoiu can't make it parrt of the protocol |
| 19:45.48 | Tekkub | use wiki talk pages! |
| 19:45.48 | hyperChipmunk | cursgaming.com/addonid=1 go! |
| 19:45.50 | clad | its literally impossible. |
| 19:45.55 | ckknight | clad, why not? |
| 19:46.00 | clad | ckknight: give me an example |
| 19:46.06 | clad | like i asked for 10 minutes agoi |
| 19:46.11 | ckknight | of? |
| 19:46.18 | clad | how it becomes part of the protocol |
| 19:46.30 | ckknight | simple, we outline specifically the steps and mathematics behind it |
| 19:46.34 | clad | it doesn't.. because the protocol only encompasses WHERE things are sent, and what format they are sent in. |
| 19:46.37 | clad | that's not a protocol thing |
| 19:46.39 | clad | its a discussion. |
| 19:46.48 | clad | and you present code and ideas, and leave it at that |
| 19:47.00 | clad | you can't have a "Ckknight-stamp-of-approval" |
| 19:47.11 | ckknight | maybe protocol is a bad word, maybe we should have a "standard" |
| 19:47.14 | clad | For once, its completely and totally out of your hands. |
| 19:47.16 | ckknight | and what's wrong with my stamp? |
| 19:47.17 | clad | ckknight: tahts fine. |
| 19:47.24 | hyperChipmunk | or a library!@ |
| 19:47.26 | hyperChipmunk | like sky! |
| 19:47.26 | clad | ckknight: have a reccomended standard. |
| 19:47.30 | clad | you can't force anyone to use it. |
| 19:47.33 | ckknight | yes, that's what I want |
| 19:47.43 | clad | and i said that.. 13 minutes ago. |
| 19:47.50 | ckknight | but you came off as a douche |
| 19:47.51 | clad | give some code, make reccomendations and be done with it. |
| 19:47.57 | clad | ckknight: and you think you don't? |
| 19:47.59 | clad | the fact is i'm right |
| 19:48.10 | hyperChipmunk | part of the standard should be that anyone with standard-compliant addon sends automated hate tells to people who spam the channels |
| 19:48.12 | clad | if that makes me uber-douchey.. then i'm okay with it. |
| 19:48.46 | Tekkub | btw clad, someone has thoughts on the checksum stuff on the wiki talk page |
| 19:48.52 | ckknight | I'm sorry if I misinterpreted you, but you really need to ease up |
| 19:48.56 | clad | K, i'll take a look at it |
| 19:48.59 | hyperChipmunk | thoughts are bad |
| 19:49.00 | ckknight | we're _trying_ to work together |
| 19:49.03 | clad | ckknight: You didn't read anything I said =) |
| 19:49.05 | hyperChipmunk | Sky is the future! |
| 19:49.08 | clad | I read everythign you said, and responded to it :P |
| 19:49.22 | clad | forgive me for being frustrated when it takes 15 minutes to come full circle |
| 19:50.20 | ag` | clad, clique. You have time? |
| 19:50.27 | ag` | or later? |
| 19:50.29 | ckknight | frankly, I think we should rename the protocol to be called a standard, then |
| 19:51.00 | clad | *shrug* there is a protocol specification there, with the message format and the channel its being sent on-- the channel being the most critical. |
| 19:51.06 | Tekkub | frankly I want the discussion to end and the implementation to begin :P |
| 19:51.21 | Tekkub | but I wasn't gonna toy with it till I get to Deucing BW's comm shit |
| 19:51.22 | clad | ag: post on the forums, or email me.. i've gotta hop off IRC but i'll be at my puter still |
| 19:51.31 | CIA-7 | 03phyber * r4508 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: |
| 19:51.31 | CIA-7 | XPBarNone: |
| 19:51.31 | CIA-7 | - Fixed XPBarNoneA frame being hidden after showing reputation bar. |
| 19:51.33 | Tekkub | and that's not gonna happen till I get done with the core |
| 19:51.45 | ag` | clad, ok |
| 19:51.51 | Tekkub | and I need to be able to disable my modules on loadup to get that done *grin* |
| 19:52.19 | ckknight | if it doesn't go into the specification, then everything collapses because many people can't take 40 KiB/s down |
| 19:52.39 | Tekkub | pff, screw them |
| 19:52.52 | Tekkub | ifthe don't have bandwidth they shouldn't try to be online |
| 19:53.05 | ckknight | it's not about the bandwidth |
| 19:53.10 | ckknight | it's about the processing the CPU does |
| 19:53.17 | Neronix | I'm only on 512/256 |
| 19:53.20 | Tekkub | :P |
| 19:53.22 | ckknight | every message you get goes into memory and lua memoizes it |
| 19:53.24 | Shyva | 40 KiB? o.0 that's nothing? |
| 19:53.32 | Wobin | I think we should use Sky |
| 19:53.34 | ckknight | that's the _real_ crunch |
| 19:53.37 | Wobin | I hear it's been highly recommended |
| 19:53.43 | Shyva | lol wob |
| 19:54.20 | Wobin | *squeak* |
| 19:54.37 | Wobin | You can tell when I'm being sarcastic, I don't use smileys =P |
| 19:55.25 | Neronix | I suck at detecting sarcasm |
| 19:55.38 | Neronix | When I first met a good friend of mine, he told me his name was John Paul Marconi |
| 19:55.42 | Neronix | I believed it for 2 weeks |
| 20:01.00 | ckknight | I think the real issue is that clad is obsessed with the legalities of the word "protocol", whereas I'm trying to think of real issues such as gameplay lag |
| 20:03.52 | Tekkub | I think the whole issue is, well this was intended to be a simple mechanism for channel selection |
| 20:04.00 | Tekkub | and it's quickly exploding out |
| 20:04.15 | ckknight | because it sadly needs to |
| 20:04.19 | Wobin | perhaps I should have been more generic in the initial suggestion |
| 20:04.23 | ckknight | throttling is extremely important |
| 20:04.27 | Tekkub | all we wanted was a fucking raid channel that we knew would exist, everyone would be in, and the user wouldn't see the chatter on it |
| 20:04.35 | Tekkub | I'm not saying it isn't ckk |
| 20:04.55 | ckknight | Tekkub, if people don't throttle, then one bad addon can halve your framerate |
| 20:05.02 | ckknight | even if you don't "see" it |
| 20:05.07 | Tekkub | I'm saying that this wasn't supposed to be "how to write a perfect comm addno" it was supposed to be "lets pick a standard channel naming scheme" |
| 20:05.28 | ckknight | the issue is: |
| 20:05.36 | ckknight | say oRA has a bug that spams |
| 20:05.44 | ckknight | instead of being able to quit the raid channel |
| 20:05.47 | Tekkub | bad mods can do that right now on the CTRA channel, I don't see why this is any different |
| 20:05.48 | ckknight | everyone's still in it |
| 20:05.51 | ckknight | everyone's still spammed. |
| 20:06.06 | ckknight | because I have a completely different addon that uses the same channel |
| 20:06.28 | Tekkub | user has comm issues, user disables comm addons |
| 20:06.43 | ckknight | but he'd have to disable all comm addons |
| 20:06.48 | ckknight | even the good ones |
| 20:07.06 | ckknight | that's the importance of throttling |
| 20:07.17 | ckknight | the entire issue would be averted if they gave us more channels |
| 20:07.21 | Tekkub | one person fucks up the CTRA channel right now and you're screwed if yfou use that channel for anything |
| 20:07.31 | Tekkub | yea it would, but they won't |
| 20:07.44 | ckknight | Tekkub, but do you use that channel for non-CTRA addons? |
| 20:07.45 | Tekkub | we can't expect blizzy to do a fucking thing for us on this issue |
| 20:07.57 | Tekkub | I will, yes |
| 20:08.06 | Wobin | wow. Dharveal is ... dumb |
| 20:08.07 | Tekkub | I want a tranq shot mod, that's not CTRA |
| 20:08.22 | ckknight | Wobin, hrm? |
| 20:08.42 | Tekkub | I want to make Quecho better |
| 20:08.43 | Wobin | his whole idea of trying to strongarm Blizzard into making the comm stuff native |
| 20:08.52 | ckknight | naive? |
| 20:08.55 | Tekkub | yea Wob, totally agree |
| 20:08.55 | ckknight | oh |
| 20:08.56 | ckknight | nvm |
| 20:08.58 | ckknight | link |
| 20:09.05 | Wobin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=411869 |
| 20:09.09 | Wobin | and the previous page |
| 20:09.09 | ag` | You can't prevent anyone with a bastard addon to destroy the channel for everyone, no matter if you create a standard, a protocol, or a library |
| 20:09.11 | Tekkub | lets become spammers! then blizzy will do what we ask |
| 20:09.32 | Tekkub | god, why can't slouken just make a fucking comment on this whole thing |
| 20:09.50 | Tekkub | CTRA has become "the standard"... what do they intend to implement from it |
| 20:09.53 | Wobin | Even just a "hey, that's a good idea" |
| 20:10.06 | Neronix | Was he the guy who's saying "Ok, let's spam the actual party/raid/world channels so we'll force people to get a simple filter. Blizz will then filter it for the people who won't run mods" |
| 20:10.24 | Mikma | nine pages |
| 20:10.30 | Neronix | Tekkub: /bother him the next time he pops into wowi-lounge |
| 20:10.34 | Mikma | surely there ain't no blue response, right? |
| 20:10.55 | Tekkub | I don't go there and I don't bother slow ken |
| 20:11.03 | Tekkub | I've had issues with that in the past |
| 20:11.20 | Wobin | Neronix: yes |
| 20:11.26 | *** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 20:11.41 | Wobin | Or rather: If we spam the channel, then people will complain to blizzard |
| 20:12.11 | CIA-7 | 03phyber * r4509 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: |
| 20:12.11 | CIA-7 | XPBarNone: |
| 20:12.11 | CIA-7 | - Fixed Font Outline toggle. |
| 20:12.27 | ckknight | Wobin, it might work, though... |
| 20:12.38 | Wobin | ckknight: I doubt it |
| 20:12.50 | Wobin | Blizzard will probably then just throttle all addon traffic to the channel |
| 20:12.52 | Wobin | to nil |
| 20:13.03 | Wobin | "You can't speak right now" |
| 20:13.04 | ckknight | either that or SendChatMessage will become a hardware event or something |
| 20:13.52 | Tekkub | heh, send chat message requiring hardware would cause a lot of endgamers to quit |
| 20:14.01 | Tekkub | and they don't want to lose the endgamers |
| 20:14.24 | ckknight | right |
| 20:14.50 | ckknight | so theoretically, spamming the normal channels could make Blizzard change its ways |
| 20:14.53 | ckknight | one way or another |
| 20:15.03 | Tekkub | but probably not for the better |
| 20:15.16 | ckknight | probably not |
| 20:15.30 | Tekkub | the nerf bat is a simple weapon to weild |
| 20:15.53 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r4510 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: |
| 20:15.53 | CIA-7 | AceConsole: |
| 20:15.54 | CIA-7 | - Argument tab-completion functionality added |
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| 20:16.43 | Wobin | ooh http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html |
| 20:16.45 | hyperChipmunk | I tweaked in a 'quiet' arg in your printUsage, that prevents the whole header from showing; doesn't require any changes on your part |
| 20:16.59 | *** join/#wowace ag`_ (n=Andreas@0x535cbbaa.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 20:17.44 | ckknight | k |
| 20:19.13 | hyperChipmunk | there's one little tiny problem left, regarding how findTableLevel returns on a blank or when an entire command is a substring of another command on the same level |
| 20:19.38 | Wobin | Subtlely tree is pretty.. crap =( |
| 20:20.29 | ag`_ | Mikma, are you there? |
| 20:20.34 | wereHamster | Tekkub, do you think the message interval should also go into the registrar or only the time of the last message sent to teh channel? |
| 20:20.52 | Mikma | ag`_: aye |
| 20:21.30 | ag`_ | Mikma, try http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1670.0.html |
| 20:21.53 | hyperChipmunk | I'll try to give a good definition, but the practical upshot for tab completing is that it doesn't descend to show the values if you haven't typed one letter in (might be able to fix in the completion function) and it cannot see further possible matches if the portion that is entered already is also a valid arg |
| 20:22.02 | ckknight | wereHamster, I wrote up a whole mathematical formula for throttling |
| 20:22.35 | Wobin | hm, that's not right =( |
| 20:22.44 | ckknight | http://www.wowwiki.com/Addon_Comm_Throttling |
| 20:23.14 | Mikma | ag`_: ok will test soon :) |
| 20:23.39 | Amadeo | ag`_: still working on the new unit frames? |
| 20:23.49 | ag`_ | yes |
| 20:24.10 | wereHamster | I'm not asking about the formula, I want to discuss whether the message interval should be saved in the registrar or not |
| 20:24.27 | Amadeo | nice |
| 20:24.36 | Amadeo | Neronix: I never saw your response earlier, but you're right about the instant attack :) |
| 20:25.03 | Neronix | :P |
| 20:25.13 | phyber | ckknight: could you add a 'reset' function to AceConsole? so that users can reset an option to the registered default? |
| 20:25.16 | ckknight | wereHamster, yes. |
| 20:25.22 | ckknight | phyber, no |
| 20:25.33 | ckknight | phyber, *shrug* |
| 20:25.48 | ckknight | how'd that fit in with gui, and how would you call it? |
| 20:25.56 | hyperChipmunk | Nuke/Pave |
| 20:26.23 | Amadeo | Neronix: but it makes Warstomp a bit overrated |
| 20:26.37 | ckknight | wereHamster, the interval wouldn't be saved in the registrar, but the next available timeslot will be. |
| 20:27.32 | ckknight | since the interval can be calculated with WoW's functions |
| 20:27.42 | wereHamster | ckknight, wouldn't it be enough to save the time and characters sent and let the addons calculate whether they can or cannot send the data? |
| 20:27.58 | Neronix | Amadeo: It is |
| 20:28.03 | ckknight | wereHamster, actually, no |
| 20:28.07 | Neronix | I hardly use it |
| 20:28.15 | ckknight | wereHamster, because you'd need multiple different numbers and character times |
| 20:28.29 | Neronix | For now, just when I'm running or in a group |
| 20:28.35 | ckknight | wereHamster, an easier solution is to do time = GetTime() + pointValue |
| 20:28.37 | Neronix | Might use it while soloing when I get execute |
| 20:28.50 | ckknight | where pointValue = chars / rate |
| 20:29.56 | ckknight | okay, I gotta go to the eye doctor |
| 20:30.08 | wereHamster | that will be funny.. an addon will be able to block all other addons by setting time=GetTime()+100000000000 and ignoring the time in itself when sending the messages :) |
| 20:30.10 | phyber | maybe it could be a little button next to each option in the GUI that resets something to its default when it's pressed. |
| 20:30.19 | ckknight | wereHamster, yes, it's possible |
| 20:30.26 | phyber | or a separate tab showing which options can be reset. |
| 20:30.40 | phyber | I hadn't thought about gui :p |
| 20:30.42 | ckknight | wereHamster, but it'd make that addon noncompliant |
| 20:30.55 | ckknight | since it messed with the time in an uncouth fashion |
| 20:31.20 | wereHamster | I'll do that ;) |
| 20:31.29 | Tekkub | ckk |
| 20:31.37 | ckknight | yes? |
| 20:31.38 | Tekkub | I think I want to split this protocol in half |
| 20:31.43 | ckknight | ... |
| 20:31.47 | Tekkub | the "simple" channel naming shit |
| 20:31.47 | ckknight | I gotta go |
| 20:31.51 | Tekkub | and all the other crap |
| 20:32.00 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r4511 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: |
| 20:32.00 | CIA-7 | AceConsole: |
| 20:32.00 | CIA-7 | - The next grouping now shows in full if nothing at that level has been typed |
| 20:32.00 | CIA-7 | - Oh man this is cool. |
| 20:32.34 | hyperChipmunk | I'm friggin grinning like a little schoolgirl |
| 20:32.37 | wereHamster | Tekkub, "all the other crap" is what? |
| 20:32.54 | hyperChipmunk | I've never been so proud of a little chunk of code in my life |
| 20:32.59 | Tekkub | throttle, drunk filter, whatever else trys to make it's way in |
| 20:33.25 | wereHamster | the drunk filter isn't part of the protocol.. technically |
| 20:33.45 | Tekkub | the more complex this gets the more people's coding standards are going to clash and the less likely that anything good is gonna come out of it |
| 20:34.08 | wereHamster | the main thing is that all addons use the same channel.. everything else is luxus |
| 20:34.45 | Tekkub | exactly, the current problem we're trying to solve is the common channel shit |
| 20:35.18 | Wobin | hC: *cheer*! =) |
| 20:35.41 | hyperChipmunk | Wobin: you try it? =D |
| 20:35.51 | Wobin | not yet, but I'm looking forward to it =) |
| 20:35.59 | hyperChipmunk | omgz |
| 20:36.01 | hyperChipmunk | gogooooo |
| 20:40.54 | wereHamster | Tekkub, hm.. so only the addon list is really needed in the registrar.. and what about the throttling? Should the time be saved there, too? |
| 20:41.11 | Tekkub | time, sure |
| 20:42.19 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r4512 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: |
| 20:42.19 | CIA-7 | AceConsole: |
| 20:42.19 | CIA-7 | - Now types usage information for continued user input when tab is pressed at the leaf of a defined argument tree |
| 20:42.31 | hyperChipmunk | now it is perfect |
| 20:42.33 | Industrial | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4048442651689395344 |
| 20:42.34 | Industrial | interesting |
| 20:42.35 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk is working on Ace2?! |
| 20:43.10 | hyperChipmunk | dude, I just wrote the slickest thing you've ever laid your pretty little eyes on |
| 20:43.28 | wereHamster | Tekkub, whether the chatframe function was hooked? |
| 20:43.33 | hyperChipmunk | update your AceConsole and revel in tab-completion ecstasy for ALL ace2 mods |
| 20:43.35 | Amadeo | Thank you for saying my eyes are pretty...you aren't too bad yourself ;) |
| 20:43.48 | Amadeo | Industrial: Horrible graphics/animation though |
| 20:44.25 | Amadeo | well |
| 20:44.27 | Amadeo | maybe it's textures |
| 20:44.34 | Amadeo | everything looks really low poly though |
| 20:44.38 | *** join/#wowace Tekcub (n=Tekk@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net) |
| 20:44.46 | Tekcub | yes, why? |
| 20:46.07 | Industrial | Amadeo: horrible? compared to wow that looks awesome |
| 20:46.14 | KaeltenAway | ok hyperChipmunkwe have an issue |
| 20:46.25 | Amadeo | Industrial: Eh...I dunno, it looks like a Linux game or something :P |
| 20:47.08 | *** mode/#wowace [+v hyperChipmunk] by KaeltenAway |
| 20:47.46 | Amadeo | I can't point my finger on it |
| 20:47.52 | Amadeo | but something just doesn't look right when you watch the video |
| 20:48.03 | hyperChipmunk | uh oh =( |
| 20:49.22 | Amadeo | Industrial: I think it might be the animation, mainly |
| 20:49.48 | Mikma | "it looks like a Linux game or something" |
| 20:49.51 | Codayus | I'm with Amadeo on this one. |
| 20:50.06 | Amadeo | Mikma: Yeah :) |
| 20:50.13 | Amadeo | Like developed for *nix only |
| 20:50.14 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 20:50.32 | CIA-7 | 03ag * r4513 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files): ag_UnitFrames - small tweaks |
| 20:50.43 | Amadeo | Mikma: Don't they always look kinda quirky to you? |
| 20:50.52 | Mikma | Amadeo: no |
| 20:50.58 | Amadeo | Codayus: This video is better, imo: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5660489442696361910&q=darkfall |
| 20:51.13 | Amadeo | Mikma: I guess it's whatever you're used to :) |
| 20:51.48 | Amadeo | and the animation in this looks incredible, actually |
| 20:51.50 | Amadeo | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6301516979305092909&q=darkfall |
| 20:51.50 | Mikma | Amadeo: i was only wondering about you categorizing the game as "linux game" when you didn't like it.. nothing else ;) |
| 20:51.51 | Amadeo | so I have no idea |
| 20:51.54 | Codayus | Amadeo: Yeah, much better. |
| 20:52.18 | Amadeo | Mikma: I'm just saying the overall look to it...I see a lot of open source games that always look quirky to me in a way |
| 20:52.22 | Codayus | Animation very good. Texturing and modeling...weak. Art direction...unclear, but nothing amazing in there. |
| 20:52.36 | Mikma | Amadeo: i've seen worse windows games than that... ;) |
| 20:53.23 | Amadeo | Mikma: Yeah, but normally from unknown developers :) |
| 20:53.53 | Wobin | hehe http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/DarkEntity/DEAD.jpg |
| 20:54.51 | Wobin | yay |
| 20:54.56 | Wobin | I can watch googlevideo again |
| 20:58.05 | Mikma | ag`_: can you pop up the clique-file with ag_unitframes |
| 20:58.07 | Wobin | omg |
| 20:58.17 | Wobin | It's like being mobbed by a horde of Orlando Blooms |
| 20:58.50 | Wobin | The blood splatters are a bit dumb |
| 21:01.03 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 21:01.40 | Amadeo | the premise behind the game sounds great though |
| 21:01.49 | Wobin | The textures are pretty, the animation is... meh |
| 21:02.01 | Amadeo | What engine is it using? Looks like an FPS engine |
| 21:02.03 | Amadeo | maybe that's why |
| 21:02.05 | Wobin | (for one, I hope they have different face models) |
| 21:02.23 | Wobin | yeah, I don't really like FPS anymore =\ |
| 21:02.29 | Wobin | Even Oblivion has dulled |
| 21:02.36 | Wobin | (since I can't play it anyway =P) |
| 21:02.44 | Wobin | er FPPerspective |
| 21:02.50 | Amadeo | I love first person |
| 21:02.58 | Amadeo | it gives a greater sense of immersion |
| 21:03.10 | Amadeo | When you play third person, you're controlling something...when you're first person, you are something |
| 21:07.02 | Wobin | yeah, I prefer something with more peripheral vision |
| 21:07.18 | Wobin | I can't really find fpp too immersive |
| 21:07.28 | Wobin | cause in real life I can detect if someone is behind me |
| 21:07.32 | Wobin | Which I can't do in a game |
| 21:07.42 | clad|sleep | i can't believe that conversation continued. *boggle* |
| 21:07.54 | Codayus | ? |
| 21:07.56 | ag`_ | Mikma, pop up? |
| 21:17.31 | Neronix | Weird... |
| 21:17.39 | Neronix | all my comm addons don't have their messages hidden |
| 21:18.21 | clad|gym | that's it... they're off the team! |
| 21:18.23 | Elkano | ckknight -> Error: ...ace\AddOns\BabbleLib\AceLocale-2.0\AceLocale-2.0.lua:236: attempt to index field `translations' (a nil value) |
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| 21:22.09 | wereHamster | clad|gym, a double can store numbers >2^52, but only with rounding errors.. |
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| 21:34.28 | haste | hello |
| 21:35.10 | steino | hello! |
| 21:38.28 | CIA-7 | 03phyber * r4514 10BagSlots/BagSlots.lua: |
| 21:38.28 | CIA-7 | BagSlots: |
| 21:38.28 | CIA-7 | - Item counts for bags are now hidden. For example, the count of how many shards are in your Soul Pouch. |
| 21:41.18 | Neronix | Random FPS comparison: |
| 21:41.24 | Neronix | Nexuiz vs Sauerbraten |
| 21:41.58 | Neronix | Nexuiz doesn't feel right at all. Weapons are clunky and don't really fit for some reason |
| 21:42.00 | Slayman | Simple men build the Arch, Experts build the Titanic. Think about that ! |
| 21:42.20 | Neronix | It's based on the Quake2 engine, and the world geometry shows |
| 21:42.43 | Neronix | Realtime lighting, bloom, ogl2 shaders and the like don't make it look much better |
| 21:42.47 | Neronix | And it runs hella slow |
| 21:43.03 | Neronix | Struggling to get a playable framerate with settings turned down |
| 21:43.09 | haste | Neronix: Action Quake ftw IMO |
| 21:43.12 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r4515 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: |
| 21:43.12 | CIA-7 | AceConsole: |
| 21:43.12 | CIA-7 | - Compressed code from 5 functions to two, eliminating several trivial function calls |
| 21:43.12 | CIA-7 | - No longer errors if you tab without anything in the chat box |
| 21:43.32 | Neronix | whereas in Sauerbraten, with reasonably high settings, I get at least 100 fps on this, shitty, shitty computer |
| 21:43.35 | haste | http://action.marsmodule.com/ ! |
| 21:43.59 | Neronix | haste: AQ2 ~= Sauerbraten and AQ2 ~= Nexuiz |
| 21:44.09 | haste | ^^ |
| 21:44.15 | haste | You said Q2 engine! |
| 21:44.28 | Neronix | Nex is based on it |
| 21:44.43 | Neronix | Sauerbraten feels right |
| 21:44.51 | Neronix | Sauierbraten's weapons feel right |
| 21:45.09 | Neronix | Sauerbraten works exceptionally well even if people have pings of 200 |
| 21:45.14 | haste | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-256209637758950618 << Aq2 video! |
| 21:45.24 | Neronix | You can edit maps ingame with Sauerbraten |
| 21:45.34 | Neronix | even with other people! |
| 21:45.49 | Neronix | And Sauerbraten has kickass music |
| 21:45.54 | Neronix | So yeah, it wins |
| 21:46.24 | Neronix | And it's a 60mb free download, soruce code included |
| 21:46.39 | Neronix | Runs on almost any platform |
| 21:47.19 | Neronix | http://sauerbraten.org - now hurry up, I need people to own me :( |
| 21:48.36 | Neronix | haste: I got AQ2 the other day, but I'm scared to try it O.o |
| 21:49.16 | haste | holy shit |
| 21:49.26 | haste | I'm getting 800kb/s from sf.net :o |
| 21:51.32 | Mikma | ag`_: aye? |
| 21:52.14 | haste | Neronix: Okey, I'm going to compile the sheep game! |
| 21:53.59 | Neronix | k |
| 21:55.26 | haste | Neronix: might take some time... need to compile to deps also |
| 21:55.36 | Neronix | Ok |
| 21:55.40 | Mikma | apt-get install ;) |
| 21:56.07 | haste | Mikma: I refuse to believe it's in apt :p |
| 21:56.11 | Neronix | What distro? I think it'll be on portage or the debian package repository |
| 21:56.19 | Mikma | haste: it might be but not in debian distro |
| 21:56.21 | haste | Neronix: it isn't in portage |
| 21:56.26 | Neronix | ah |
| 21:56.39 | haste | Neronix: I however have a ebuild for it |
| 21:56.46 | Neronix | Well, there's binaries in there if you get bored of compiling |
| 21:56.51 | haste | from 11.06.06 - should work |
| 21:57.29 | mjc | it'd be cool if ttip would make a noise when you mouse over a friend in a city |
| 21:57.34 | mjc | or a guildie |
| 21:57.40 | Mikma | NoisyTip |
| 21:57.42 | mjc | I should implement that later |
| 21:58.56 | ag`_ | what did you mean Mikma |
| 21:59.13 | Mikma | ag`_: can't remember |
| 21:59.29 | ag`_ | something with clique and aUF |
| 21:59.47 | Mikma | ag`_: propably something that you should put the plugin with ag_UnitFrames so i don't have to put it in a file ;) |
| 22:00.01 | ag`_ | oh |
| 22:07.26 | ckknight | back |
| 22:08.54 | CIA-7 | 03joshborke 07joshborke * r4516 10HealWatch/HealWatch/ (HealWatch.lua HealWatchEvents.lua HealWatchFrames.lua): |
| 22:08.54 | CIA-7 | HealWatch: |
| 22:08.54 | CIA-7 | - updated targeting, it still gets funky. |
| 22:08.54 | CIA-7 | - fixed some bad logic in spell targets |
| 22:08.54 | CIA-7 | - removed GetHeight call for the background. |
| 22:11.02 | hyperChipmunk | Tekcub: how does CorkFu do greater paladin blessings? |
| 22:11.15 | Tekcub | shift click, probably |
| 22:11.30 | hyperChipmunk | thankjs =) |
| 22:17.44 | haste | Neronix: I'll watch a Black Cat episode while it comples, don't leave! |
| 22:18.25 | CIA-7 | 03shyva * r4517 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Patchwerk.lua: BigWigs: Away with those Korean locals in the english table! |
| 22:18.57 | Neronix | I won't =) |
| 22:19.08 | Neronix | I'm just figuring out the admin commands while I wait |
| 22:19.20 | Neronix | And wondering how well I could rocket jump with the quad ;P |
| 22:19.55 | Neronix | And the answer to that is: Don't bother trying :P |
| 22:20.06 | Amadeo | rophy just sent me a message saying his combat log was better than anything Neronix could ever come up with, wtf |
| 22:21.04 | ckknight | ... |
| 22:21.08 | Neronix | Amadeo... |
| 22:21.15 | ckknight | some people are douches |
| 22:21.17 | Neronix | A) I don't want to write one |
| 22:21.31 | Neronix | B) He can write the actual combat log part better |
| 22:21.39 | Neronix | C) WTF were you saying to him about me? |
| 22:21.50 | Amadeo | Neronix |
| 22:21.53 | Neronix | D) Is my sarcasm detector broke, or are you being stupid? |
| 22:21.57 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 22:22.00 | Amadeo | You're broken |
| 22:22.23 | Amadeo | I've never spoken to him before, and I don't even know if he actually IRCs :) |
| 22:22.44 | Amadeo | i.e. - it was a joke :) |
| 22:22.47 | kergoth | lol |
| 22:22.49 | Neronix | :P |
| 22:23.09 | Amadeo | Neronix got all pissy, wtf! |
| 22:23.28 | Neronix | Sarcasm detectors can only be fixed by engys with 380 skill :( |
| 22:23.34 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:24.15 | Mikma | ag`_: i'll test the clique support tomorrow, right now i need to sleep this fever away :P |
| 22:24.21 | Mikma | so, gn all and see ya tomorrow |
| 22:24.31 | kergoth | night Mikma |
| 22:25.00 | Amadeo | night Mikma |
| 22:25.13 | Amadeo | are ag`_'s unit frames that far along already? |
| 22:25.42 | *** join/#wowace haste (n=haste@host-81-191-131-80.bluecom.no) |
| 22:25.49 | haste | rawr |
| 22:26.41 | Neronix | haste: What happened? |
| 22:26.41 | Tekcub | wH, I assume you're shag? |
| 22:26.57 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4518 10Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: AceOO - now with optional Compost support |
| 22:27.03 | haste | Neronix: I had to add myself to the games user grouip |
| 22:27.12 | haste | s/ip/p/ |
| 22:27.21 | haste | anyway, how do I change the controls? |
| 22:27.24 | Tekcub | wereHamster |
| 22:27.28 | Tekcub | *poke* |
| 22:27.51 | wereHamster | Tekcub, yes? |
| 22:27.57 | Tekcub | <Tekcub> wH, I assume you're shag? |
| 22:28.20 | wereHamster | yes, I am aka Shag |
| 22:28.40 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4519 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.0/AceLocale-2.0.lua: AceLocale - added more checks |
| 22:29.18 | Tekcub | sign your posts :P |
| 22:29.25 | Neronix | haste: bind/editbind key action |
| 22:29.31 | Neronix | For more info, read the docs |
| 22:29.40 | Neronix | it's about as well documented as Ace2 is :P |
| 22:29.44 | Tekcub | and don't use "guild" |
| 22:29.55 | haste | Neronix: damn you! |
| 22:30.00 | Tekcub | users may want to be in a guild channel other than the guild they are in |
| 22:30.02 | Neronix | It's worth it! |
| 22:30.06 | haste | this will take a while... |
| 22:30.08 | Amadeo | What's wrong with DKP, you say? |
| 22:30.12 | Amadeo | http://static.zoovy.com/img/3shotwarri/-/1/goodinspect2 |
| 22:30.47 | Gngsk | I see nothing wrong with that picture |
| 22:30.51 | Amadeo | http://static.zoovy.com/img/3shotwarri/-/1/goodinspect |
| 22:30.54 | Amadeo | lol |
| 22:31.00 | Amadeo | that weapon benefits a druid by about 0% |
| 22:31.35 | Gngsk | well, bib is in use |
| 22:31.38 | Gngsk | that's about all I see wrong |
| 22:31.40 | Neronix | haste: do "connect neronix.ath.cx" when you're ready |
| 22:31.48 | wereHamster | Tekcub, 'group' describes a raid/party pretty well, but how would you name the 'guild' channel? |
| 22:31.52 | haste | Neronix: Yes, I just need to figure out how to get the console down |
| 22:32.06 | Neronix | ` |
| 22:32.19 | Tekcub | maybe "Guild "..rawguildname |
| 22:32.24 | Amadeo | Gngsk: You think that weapon helps a Druid at all? :P |
| 22:32.24 | Neronix | it's a command prompt that appears above your health |
| 22:33.23 | haste | Neronix: not working |
| 22:34.05 | Neronix | should see "> /" above your health |
| 22:34.14 | Neronix | or press t and do "/command" |
| 22:34.26 | haste | aah, I found a solution thanks to that |
| 22:34.35 | haste | <t> write / command |
| 22:34.55 | haste | Neronix: what's the console bind name ;D ? |
| 22:35.23 | *** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 22:35.30 | Neronix | lemme find it |
| 22:35.44 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 22:35.47 | Tuplad | Ehh, just seen the news, basayev is dead |
| 22:36.09 | haste | oO, now I've done it ;D |
| 22:36.09 | haste | I unbinded t |
| 22:36.09 | haste | nice that it doesn't save my config <3 |
| 22:36.16 | Neronix | bind K [saycommand /] |
| 22:36.32 | Neronix | square brackets included |
| 22:38.16 | haste | Neronix: also, F11 works as a console..... |
| 22:38.24 | haste | damn you for telling me the wrong key! |
| 22:38.51 | Amadeo | ckknight_: I think you should write a combat log addon! |
| 22:38.51 | Neronix | really? |
| 22:38.59 | ckknight_ | no |
| 22:39.05 | ckknight_ | not dealing with that |
| 22:39.11 | Neronix | Only seems to show the console history for me |
| 22:39.11 | ckknight_ | I have too much on my plate already |
| 22:39.18 | Amadeo | ckknight_: Who's the guy who wrote Sky again? |
| 22:39.18 | ckknight_ | and I'm not getting paid for it |
| 22:39.27 | ckknight_ | AnduinLothar |
| 22:39.44 | Amadeo | ckknight_: Oh ok, well then Anduin sent me a message and said his combat log would be better than anything you could ever code! |
| 22:40.33 | ckknight_ | too bad he's a douche and that's not true |
| 22:40.35 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:40.47 | ckknight_ | and he's just trying to compensate for my obviously larger penis |
| 22:40.49 | Amadeo | I wonder who would believe me |
| 22:41.05 | Amadeo | so I can convince them |
| 22:41.05 | ckknight_ | so you can't feel too bad |
| 22:41.09 | Amadeo | Hey haste.... |
| 22:41.17 | haste | Hey Amadeo..... |
| 22:41.25 | Amadeo | Any coders you really dislike? |
| 22:41.37 | hyperChipmunk | me |
| 22:41.51 | Amadeo | haste: hyperChipmunk just sent me a message and said...hey, wait a minute |
| 22:42.16 | haste | Amadeo: uhm.. no, why do you ask? |
| 22:42.51 | Amadeo | haste: Oh, no reason |
| 22:43.11 | haste | Neronix: Okey... this is starting to annoy me.. slowly |
| 22:43.16 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 22:43.24 | Neronix | haste: How? |
| 22:43.33 | Neronix | Still can't figure out the console? |
| 22:44.00 | haste | Neronix: I don't even have say now... |
| 22:44.20 | Neronix | exit and delete config.cfg |
| 22:44.34 | Amadeo | nice |
| 22:44.35 | Neronix | game will recreate it on next startup |
| 22:44.36 | Amadeo | AlphaMap was updated |
| 22:44.40 | Amadeo | (Fan's update) |
| 22:44.48 | Amadeo | er wait |
| 22:44.48 | haste | Neronix: not that I have any idea where it created it :p |
| 22:44.50 | Amadeo | why is it so huge now? |
| 22:45.12 | haste | building a database over my filesystem so I can search for it |
| 22:45.40 | Neronix | haste: Dunno where it installs it self on *nix, sorry |
| 22:45.46 | Amadeo | kergoth: any news from yatlas/MSBT creators? |
| 22:46.08 | haste | Neronix: I know wher eit installs itself |
| 22:46.15 | haste | but it didn't make a config there ;D |
| 22:46.38 | haste | it makes the config in /var/ WTF? |
| 22:46.48 | Neronix | O.o |
| 22:48.54 | haste | Neronix: server still up? |
| 22:49.52 | Industrial | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2789 |
| 22:49.53 | Industrial | HMMM |
| 22:49.57 | Amadeo | http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/screenshots/full/SS_May_2006_02.jpg |
| 22:49.58 | Industrial | thats actually pretty nice |
| 22:50.10 | Industrial | (big thing for me to say about compilations) |
| 22:50.11 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:50.19 | Neronix | haste: yeah |
| 22:50.26 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 22:50.30 | haste | Neronix: okey: Unable to connect |
| 22:50.32 | Neronix | Wait, says could nto connect :( |
| 22:50.39 | haste | could not connect event |
| 22:50.47 | haste | s/event/even/ |
| 22:50.55 | haste | I've written to much on my addons lately... |
| 22:51.03 | Neronix | I'll update my dndyns |
| 22:51.29 | haste | can't you just give me a ip :p ? |
| 22:52.16 | Neronix | 84.68.19.166 |
| 22:52.29 | snurre | hm.. wonder how blizz's floating combat text will be compared to sct |
| 22:53.09 | cladhaire | wereHamster: Hrm? |
| 22:53.23 | FryGuy | floating combat text? |
| 22:53.23 | cladhaire | wereHamster: What sup |
| 22:53.30 | snurre | FryGuy: 1.12 feature |
| 22:54.34 | *** join/#wowace Wobin (n=Wobin@203.118.52.133) |
| 22:55.00 | Amadeo | Well, as with most Blizzard addons...it will do a little, but not much! |
| 22:55.16 | Wobin | hehe, what's the discussion with AL now? =P |
| 22:55.37 | FryGuy | link? |
| 22:55.49 | wereHamster | cladhaire, you mean the double overflow? |
| 22:55.50 | snurre | hm, i need a new minimap addon i think.. suggestions? |
| 22:56.03 | ckknight | Wobin, I'm pro-testing and pro-users |
| 22:56.15 | ckknight | he's anti-testing and pro-douche |
| 22:56.18 | Wobin | You? pro-user? =) |
| 22:56.25 | *** join/#wowace Tem_ (n=tardmrr@204.90.50.252) |
| 22:56.25 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem_] by ChanServ |
| 22:56.38 | ckknight | Wobin, I fix things fast. |
| 22:56.41 | Amadeo | I like the notes on this addon - http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4541-1-musicplayer.html |
| 22:56.43 | Wobin | hehe |
| 22:56.49 | ckknight | but I have a good enough reputation |
| 22:56.52 | Amadeo | "This is my first addon, so don't expect it to work" |
| 22:56.53 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:56.53 | ckknight | keep memory and cpu cycles low |
| 22:56.54 | Wobin | doesn't necessarily mean you're pro-user, however =) |
| 22:57.00 | cladhaire | wereHamster: YOu said my name earlier.. what was it about? |
| 22:57.01 | ckknight | more than him |
| 22:57.26 | Wobin | he -expects- to have the user base from the reputation of Cosmos alone |
| 22:57.40 | Amadeo | Wobin: ckknight is just pro-Amadeo |
| 22:57.51 | Wobin | Aren't we all? |
| 22:57.55 | wereHamster | cladhaire, I was referring to the discussion about the checksum algorithm, that the number may overflow. |
| 22:58.00 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r4520 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: |
| 22:58.00 | CIA-7 | AceConsole: |
| 22:58.01 | CIA-7 | - Fixed error when trying to tab-complete args of inferior addons |
| 22:58.03 | Amadeo | haha :D |
| 22:58.10 | Wobin | hC: =) |
| 22:58.20 | cladhaire | wereHamster: I don't know what you said, just that you said something.. so what did you say =) |
| 22:58.23 | hyperChipmunk | >8p |
| 22:58.32 | hyperChipmunk | have you tried it yet, punk? |
| 22:58.35 | Wobin | <wereHamster> cladhaire, you mean the double overflow? |
| 22:58.46 | Tuplad | omg some idiot just told me that oRA is the same as CTRA |
| 22:58.56 | Wobin | None of my ace2 addons have a console yet |
| 22:58.59 | wereHamster | cladhaire, although you are right that a double can hold 6^300, using those numbers can lead to rounding errors |
| 22:58.59 | ckknight | Tuplad, troll em down! |
| 22:59.01 | hyperChipmunk | ! |
| 22:59.05 | Tuplad | ckknight: on it :D |
| 22:59.06 | kergoth | ~laziness |
| 22:59.08 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 22:59.11 | Wobin | Since my only ace2 is PlowKing =P |
| 22:59.13 | hyperChipmunk | Wobin: you don't use bulkmail? |
| 22:59.17 | cladhaire | wereHamster: And you're saying there's rounding error over 2^52? |
| 22:59.17 | hyperChipmunk | die by fire |
| 22:59.24 | Wobin | s/by/in a/ |
| 22:59.28 | wereHamster | yes |
| 22:59.32 | hyperChipmunk | BY FIRE BE PURGED |
| 22:59.39 | Wobin | Burninate in a peasant |
| 22:59.50 | ckknight | cladhaire, check for >2^40 and run a mod? |
| 22:59.58 | hyperChipmunk | so well now you have to download bulkmail to see the awesomeness |
| 22:59.59 | hyperChipmunk | also |
| 23:00.08 | hyperChipmunk | plowking still has default console commands, no? |
| 23:00.13 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.13 | hyperChipmunk | or didn't you even mixin AceConsole |
| 23:00.22 | Wobin | Well I haven't even mixed it in I think |
| 23:00.46 | hyperChipmunk | aha |
| 23:01.11 | hyperChipmunk | surely you have /ace2 |
| 23:01.21 | cladhaire | ckknight: I'm not convinced.. I'm looking. |
| 23:02.59 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 23:03.25 | mjc | anyone bored? lol :p |
| 23:04.09 | Slayman | those new rogue talents are worth a debate |
| 23:04.17 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:04.24 | mjc | hmm how does the clique cureall thing work again, I'm retarded |
| 23:04.27 | kergoth | i still cant nail down my new build |
| 23:05.19 | Wobin | unless he's being particularly randemo |
| 23:05.43 | cladhaire | mjc: Clique:CureAny() |
| 23:05.45 | cladhaire | just bind it |
| 23:05.47 | cladhaire | and cast it. |
| 23:06.27 | mjc | aha |
| 23:06.27 | kergoth | i need to play with that more |
| 23:06.27 | *** join/#wowace netcurse (n=net@dslb-088-064-179-049.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:07.23 | kergoth | i think i may end up with quite the boring rogue build, taking advantage of very few of the talent changes :\ |
| 23:07.41 | Wobin | kergoth: =( |
| 23:09.00 | kergoth | nullpuppy: ping |
| 23:10.44 | cladhaire | kergoth: check your pm's douce-monkey |
| 23:13.46 | Industrial | How do I decide what color a unit is when you compare the level to yours? |
| 23:13.55 | Industrial | wanna color the level text of my unitframes |
| 23:14.00 | kergoth | cladhaire: i replied, just forgot to re-identify when i changed my nick back :P |
| 23:14.05 | *** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 23:14.07 | Industrial | but what exactly is what color - i dunno |
| 23:14.32 | cladhaire | kergoth: I didn't get the respond.. *gasp* |
| 23:15.03 | kergoth | good ole cant send messages from unregistered users thingy |
| 23:16.19 | *** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 23:16.27 | Tuplad | Error: attempt to call field `OnInitialize' (a nil value) :O both in Fizzle2 & Lexan |
| 23:18.09 | Wobin | Tuplad: hm, that's probably since OnInitialize was made automatic for the parent call |
| 23:18.14 | Wobin | (I think) |
| 23:21.35 | Wobin | hm |
| 23:21.45 | Wobin | isthe tab completion supposed to work for the first argument? |
| 23:21.52 | Wobin | like /ace2 lo<tab>? |
| 23:22.01 | hyperChipmunk | any arguments |
| 23:22.07 | Wobin | it just erases it for me =( |
| 23:22.14 | hyperChipmunk | turn off Tab |
| 23:23.05 | *** join/#wowace Kebinusan (i=Kebinusa@adsl-68-74-106-147.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) |
| 23:23.14 | Wobin | how to do so? |
| 23:23.25 | hyperChipmunk | do you use Tem's Tab add on? |
| 23:23.32 | hyperChipmunk | /ace disable tab |
| 23:23.41 | Wobin | nope |
| 23:23.44 | hyperChipmunk | darnit |
| 23:23.49 | hyperChipmunk | my g/f has the same problem |
| 23:24.00 | hyperChipmunk | that means you get to figure it out for me |
| 23:24.03 | Wobin | woo |
| 23:24.11 | hyperChipmunk | thanks, man; you're a real pal |
| 23:24.15 | Wobin | . o O (..yay..) |
| 23:24.28 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub * r4521 10BossBlock/Core.lua: |
| 23:24.28 | CIA-7 | BossBlock |
| 23:24.28 | CIA-7 | - Now blocks /rw spams from appearing in the chatframes. |
| 23:24.37 | hyperChipmunk | oh neat |
| 23:25.23 | Grumpey | nice |
| 23:25.54 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r4522 10TinyTipOptions/TinyTipOptions.lua: TinyTipOptions: Fixed typo in code. |
| 23:26.21 | hyperChipmunk | i'm thinking it has to be another addon conflict |
| 23:26.30 | hyperChipmunk | have any addons that alter chatboxes? |
| 23:26.44 | Wobin | hm |
| 23:26.47 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r4523 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Failing to have TinyTipOptions will now give a more descriptive error message. |
| 23:26.50 | Wobin | I'm using ChatScroll |
| 23:26.55 | cladhaire | anyone have a win32 bitlib? |
| 23:26.56 | Wobin | but I don't know if that actually effects Tab |
| 23:29.00 | Ratbert_CP | Hmmm... Need some design/concept help for Autobar-ish functionality... |
| 23:29.15 | *** join/#wowace SilverShadow (n=silversh@69-2-90-22.wan.networktel.net) |
| 23:29.54 | cladhaire | nvm i compiled one. |
| 23:31.03 | Ratbert_CP | I want to be able to set a button as an AutoButton that will show the best item in your inventory for a given list. i.e., /autobutton set ActionButton3 healpotions |
| 23:32.17 | Ratbert_CP | Oh... As usual, I think I answered my own question after I asked it... |
| 23:32.29 | Amadeo | Recklessness is Godmode...every 30 minutes |
| 23:33.13 | Amadeo | Thrae|Zzzz: TinyTip is working great for me right now :) |
| 23:37.55 | hyperChipmunk | the new trinketmenu is snazzy |
| 23:38.12 | hyperChipmunk | wonder if he's gonna give itemrack a facelift, too |
| 23:41.54 | Kebinusan | the svn trunk of onebag is not working for me presently |
| 23:42.34 | Kaelten | what did you do? |
| 23:42.35 | cladhaire | Tekcub: Are you around? |
| 23:42.36 | Kaelten | did you break it!? |
| 23:42.43 | Tekcub | sortof, what? |
| 23:42.46 | cladhaire | Or does anyone want to talk hashes quickly? |
| 23:42.58 | Kaelten | whats up cladhaire? |
| 23:43.01 | cladhaire | Tekcub: Here's the dilemma.. in order to avoid the overflow issue, it makes more sense to go back to addition |
| 23:43.10 | Tekcub | okey |
| 23:43.11 | cladhaire | but i can only do that, if we continue to use the stripped name in the channel |
| 23:43.15 | cladhaire | is that what we expect? |
| 23:43.26 | Kebinusan | Kaelten, umm I just updated it was all I swear! |
| 23:43.28 | Tekcub | why would we not use the name in the channel?L |
| 23:43.45 | Kaelten | ah there is a bug |
| 23:43.53 | Kebinusan | one of the slash commands work and its not replacing my bags |
| 23:43.54 | cladhaire | Tekcub: Because you and Satrina don't want to =) |
| 23:43.59 | Kebinusan | s/one/none |
| 23:44.06 | cladhaire | for example we have conflicts on the following names: [1] = "Guardians", |
| 23:44.06 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.06 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.06 | Tekcub | yea but that's just us |
| 23:44.07 | hyperChipmunk | ofc, he jumped on the infernal ClampToScreen bandwagon and now I can't make it flush with my bars =P |
| 23:44.16 | cladhaire | along with stuff like: [1] = "Est Sularus oth Mithas", |
| 23:44.17 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.30 | cladhaire | If we go to JUST hashes.. then it breaks obviously |
| 23:44.41 | cladhaire | and i just want to be sure where we're headed so I know how robust I need to make this =) |
| 23:45.01 | Tekcub | just stick to name and checksum, the checksum's there to add uniquness to like names |
| 23:45.32 | cladhaire | ok |
| 23:45.38 | cladhaire | i'll see if i can drop the collisions down even lower |
| 23:47.00 | *** join/#wowace Parak (i=PROFI@user-0cev737.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 23:47.20 | cladhaire | well |
| 23:47.22 | cladhaire | there we go =) |
| 23:47.22 | cladhaire | lol |
| 23:48.26 | cladhaire | I got collisions down from 450 to 6. |
| 23:48.35 | Wobin | hehe |
| 23:48.41 | Wobin | That's a good statistic =) |
| 23:48.48 | Wobin | what are the collisions? |
| 23:49.27 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r4524 10Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: Ace2 - Fixed typo |
| 23:49.35 | Kaelten | Kebinusan: try updating and trying again |
| 23:49.40 | Kebinusan | k |
| 23:50.12 | Tuplad | lal, I was about to say something about that typo kaelten :p |
| 23:50.24 | Kaelten | lol |
| 23:51.35 | Tuplad | beh, my server is lagging & disconnecting for 2 days now :\ we cant even lose av properly |
| 23:51.44 | Kebinusan | much better Kaelten thnx :-) |
| 23:51.54 | Kaelten | np |
| 23:52.21 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub 07Ace2 * r4525 10BigWigs/ (7 files in 4 dirs): |
| 23:52.22 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Ace2 Branch) |
| 23:52.22 | CIA-7 | - Misc crap toying with AceConsole and DewDrop-2.0. Nothing really interesting to see here, just commiting up what I have so I can switch to trunk for tonight's ZG run. |
| 23:56.10 | Galka__ | All my Ace2 addons are borked :o |
| 23:56.33 | Kaelten | Galka__: update ace2 from the svn there was a typo |
| 23:58.29 | *** part/#wowace Grumpey (n=Owner@dialup-4.152.213.224.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) |
| 23:58.43 | Neronix | Factoid of the day: haste >>> me |
| 23:58.46 | haste | "Typo crits Ace2 for 2913 damage." "Ace2 dies." |
| 23:59.22 | Neronix | "Haste's instagib rifle crits Neronix for #NaN. Repeatedly" |
| 23:59.25 | haste | Neronix: http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/aq2/aq20001.jpg << from Action Quake 2 :p |
| 23:59.38 | haste | I played that way to much before |
