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21:32.59*** join/#wowace purl (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt)
21:32.59*** topic/#wowace is wowace.com | ace.pastebin.ca | http://www.lua.org/pil <-- READ IT | Ace 2.0.3768 Beta Release [07/01/06] | It is not the law that matters, but our obedience to it
21:33.03kergothpurl: wb
21:33.05purlthx
21:33.07Tupladwb noob!
21:33.10haste~hug purl
21:33.11purlACTION hugs purl
21:33.11Mikma~tryme
21:33.13purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikk instead of Mikma and pulls the trigger - click.
21:33.13Tuplad~whalestab Mikma
21:33.14purlACTION stabs Mikma with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
21:33.15kergoth:D
21:33.16ElkanoTuplad: well, let's hunt ckknight down in order to fix this ^^
21:33.23Mikma~whaleparry Tuplad
21:33.24purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Tuplad's attacks.
21:33.27maiackknight: thanks for the dewdrop fix!
21:33.28TupladElkano: harr, just download the FuBar from WoWi
21:33.31Kebinusan!whaleparry tupload
21:33.33Kebinusanerr
21:33.40TupladTupload ? oO
21:33.46Kebinusanheh
21:33.53Mikma~tryme
21:33.54purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - click.
21:33.55Kebinusanhey I just sorta woke up
21:33.59phyberkergoth: check out Fizzle.  some issues with durability disappearing after checking mail.
21:34.03phyberi can't figure it out.
21:34.08Kebinusanis ace1 fubar in svn anywhere?
21:34.09TupladKebinusan: yea, always blame the mornings ¬_¬
21:34.13TupladKebinusan: no
21:34.17TupladGet it off WoWi
21:34.21Kebinusaneven at 5:30 at night
21:34.23Mikma~tryme
21:34.25purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - click.
21:34.25clad|sleepmaia: Absolutely not.
21:34.34Mikmacladhaire: i love PerfectRaid
21:34.42Tuplad<PROTECTED>
21:34.47Mikmait's great as officer / raidleader
21:34.50ckknightFuBar 2 is now  the currently active project for FuBar, thus it is in trunk
21:34.50TupladIt's my guild's official addon, now
21:34.56Mikmai can bust druids using innervates on theirselves
21:35.00ckknightif you don't want to use it, get it off WoWI
21:35.07TupladMikma: evil.
21:35.08ckknightfor now, I will play my priest
21:35.11ckknightuntil I grow tired
21:35.16MikmaTuplad: thanks :D
21:35.18ckknightthen I will document FBP-2.0
21:35.20phyberFuBar2 downed Hogger.  Use it.
21:35.21kergothphyber: ah! checking mail... i bet i always checked mail around the time when it vanished for me before, and just didnt connect it :)
21:35.25kergothphyber: will test
21:35.29Tupladphyber: hogger is so old ;\
21:35.31MikmaTuplad: we have a rule that innervates are for priests
21:35.34cladhairemaia: I'm specfically making this code very very very dumb =)
21:35.36Mikma~tryme
21:35.38purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - click.
21:35.45TupladMikma: that's one lame rule ...
21:35.52cladhaireIt sorts by mana, and chooses the lowest spell that will heal the correct amount (Without taking +healing into account)
21:36.02MikmaTuplad: no, it's one lifesaverrule since priests do heal better than druids *shocked*
21:36.12cladhaireIf you dont have enough mana for that, it backs down the array until it finds one you can cast
21:36.23TupladMikma: my ass they do - I outheal any epix priest in my blue/green BRD gear
21:36.28Mikmacladhaire: that's superlove for clickcasters
21:36.31cladhaireTuplad: Try me.
21:36.42cladhaireMikma: Not foer those who want to do "smart" things. =)
21:36.50TupladIn ZG(by synced damagemeters) I have the least overhealing AND the most healing :)
21:37.01kergotham i reading this right? clique is getting a rank adjuster?
21:37.02MikmaTuplad: yes you sure do but priests are still more efficient in healings than druids
21:37.08Mikmacladhaire: aye but i'm lazy :D
21:37.16TupladMikma: boohoo, they dont have a 50% crit on regrowth
21:37.18cladhairekergoth: For spells ONLY
21:37.25Tupladand if shit gets kinky, there comes my tranquility
21:37.28cladhairei have no intentions at the moment of making it general
21:37.34cladhairebut it would be trivial to do so
21:37.38ag`I use AceEvent+AceOO for some nifty things ^o^
21:37.43MikmaTuplad: and they still heal faster than druids, believe it or not
21:37.50Tupladcladhaire: should get a crown for the pimp addons he/she/it is making.
21:38.01cladhaireO.o?
21:38.05TupladMikma: it's not how fast, it's how much ;)
21:38.10Tupladye well >_>
21:38.15maiacladhaire: I'm just wondering how you define "the correct amount" - and if the user could add a value, it would be nice.
21:38.21Tuplada pinky ring then and a golden teeth ?
21:38.23MikmaTuplad: it's how fast and how much
21:38.32cladhairemaia: They can't at the moment.. and the correct amount is UnitMaxHealth() - UnitHealth()
21:38.34TupladMikma: nah :]
21:38.41FtH|EagleHow can I add arg1, arg2 etc. to an ace option table for dewdrop? Is it possible somehow?
21:38.51ckknightsadly, no, FtH
21:38.57cladhairemaia: Again, anyone is welcome to make a more complicated plugin, but other than a manual offset, I dont plan to expand on this code at all
21:38.57Tupladmaia: while we're having this healing discussion ... could you add a function to Squishy to only monitor your GROUP and not the whole raid ?
21:39.00cladhaireCause I hate it =)
21:39.01ckknightyou can change the handler
21:39.05ckknightor just put in a raw function
21:39.27cladhairemaia: Should I just average max/min and use that value.. right now I'm using min
21:39.28FtH|Eaglemy problem is that I iterate over a table, and the key should be arg1
21:39.32cladhairei really should be using max.
21:39.32cladhairehrm.
21:39.49maiacladhaire: e.g. I could then use: local dmgmodifier = ( Squishy.Roster[UnitName("target")].aggro and 1000 ) or 0; Clique:GetRank("Flash Heal", UnitMaxHealth()-UnitHealth()-dmgnodifier)
21:40.07ckknightFtH|Eagle, passing group?
21:40.19FtH|Eaglewhat group?
21:40.28cladhairemaia: Well i'm not going to provide a GetRank() lookup function
21:40.30ckknightpastebin, Eagle
21:40.31Elkanowell, ckknight, beside that I'll still be looking forward to any fixes done in the next 12h or so ^^
21:40.35cladhairebut the spellbook is externally accessible.
21:40.48maiacladhaire: I'm not talking about adding more logic to your rank selector, just giving the user a way to make a decision if they want to over- or underheal.
21:40.57ckknightElkano, fixes for the German thing?
21:41.13Tupladmaia: can I request features for squishy somewhere so you wont forget ? :D
21:41.17TupladElkano: Your buffbar is bugged :<
21:41.36maiaTuplad: I'm planning to add priority options once Squishy 1.0 is released. And yes, you can post it in the Squishy thread.
21:41.37cladhairemaia: Like I said, I would allow a modifier variable (With slash command) that says you want to modify the heal amount by +200 to always overheal, or -200 if you have plus healing gear.. what more would you want?
21:42.05cladhairei'm trying to understand without being a dick.. cause I hate spell selection logic with a passion =)
21:42.10FtH|EagleBut if I create a group, it is a group in dewdrop, and that isn't what I want, it shall be a normal text which executes a function with an argument
21:42.17maia:)
21:42.19hasteTuplad: You suck at bug reports.
21:42.26CIA-1103ckknight * r5706 10FuBar/ (PanelClass.lua README.txt): FuBar - removed old files
21:42.32Elkanowell, that error doesn't seem to break anything, but the TabletLib owner bug in Compat-1.2 (is that addon even needed by me?) or the bug with position ajustment for other UI elements
21:42.38*** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r43h96.res.gatech.edu)
21:42.42cladhairelesser heal rank 1 is sooooo fast
21:43.09CIA-1103ckknight * r5707 10FuBar/FuBar-Locale-deDE.lua: FuBar - fixed deDE
21:43.09ElkanoTuplad: go on...
21:43.13ckknightElkano,  there
21:43.30ckknightElkano, also, if you get time, feel free to edit the Locale file.
21:43.54maiacladhaire: I would like to heal depending on the current situation. Right now it's the brain logic of "if the unit has aggro, use a larger rank, so shift-rightclick", "oh, I'm not the main healer on the tank, and I know 3 others will heal him as well, so I won't cast a Greater Heal Rank5 but rather something smaller"
21:44.00Tupladhaste: >:|
21:44.13TupladElkano: well, you see - I play a rogue
21:44.40CIA-1103ag * r5708 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):
21:44.40CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
21:44.40CIA-11<PROTECTED>
21:44.40CIA-11<PROTECTED>
21:45.19TupladElkano: When I go in a BG, and I poison up, I like fight a bit etc. - when match is over, I get some bug with "couldnt har har har ? because value is nil" - and then I dont see 1 of the weapons that should be poisoned up, instead, I see 2 "Honorless target" buffs, but if I hover over the one at the top, I see the "poison" buff
21:45.23Tupladhard to explain, I should make screenies :D
21:45.53Tupladphyber: you there ?
21:45.55phyberyeah, the exact error would be a good way to help debug it :|
21:45.56hastethat's still pretty useless :p
21:45.57phyberTuplad: yes
21:46.21Tupladphyber: what's the LostKeys = {} for in http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/LostKeys/LostKeys.lua ?
21:46.40phyberto create the table for the functions.
21:46.42Tupladhaste: didnt play that rogue for a week or so, having too much fun at test servers :]
21:46.55Tupladphyber: is there an explanation about it ? like - why it's needed etc.
21:46.58hastehow can you have fun on the PTR :< ?
21:47.14Tupladhaste: you have NO idea what dirty pvp that is
21:47.27Tuplada bunch of rogues(mostly french) ambush you at 12%
21:47.27hasteokey, I have NO idea abou that.
21:47.29ElkanoTuplad, using which version? latest svn?
21:47.39TupladElkano: um, I'll update now :D
21:48.08kergothTuplad: no offense, but RTFM
21:48.16Tupladkergoth: about ?
21:48.21kergoth14:53 < Tuplad> phyber: is there an explanation about it ? like - why it's needed etc.
21:48.26Tupladyesh.
21:48.29KebinusanHmm I have this big red square with a white border in the middle of my screen now for some reason
21:48.35kergothPIL is not only online, but in the topic of this channel
21:48.37TupladKebinusan: FuBar2 ...
21:48.40Cheadskeb... /wh lock   =)
21:49.06Tupladkergoth: pil ?
21:49.20Kebinusanweird its like a bunch of my settings got reset for some reason
21:49.37KebinusanThnx Cheads
21:49.55Cheadsnp.. had to play around with my addons to figure out which one it was =)
21:49.56cladhairehahah
21:50.00cladhaireone holy fire will kill gobbler =)
21:50.11Tuplad:O
21:51.55KebinusanYeah I installed dfm, but I wasnt seeing anything when I moused over it to tell me what it was
21:54.36Cheadsso now with fubar 2.0 all 1.0 plugins will have to be updated, no new fubar2compat1-0 ?
21:55.16ckknightright
21:55.20ckknightgranted, there aren't many
21:58.41Elkanowell, about 1/3 of mine broke :/
21:59.17Mikmasoon i'll find out how IgnoreMore works :D
21:59.52*** part/#wowace wereHamster (n=tomc@gw.ptr-62-65-141-13.customer.ch.netstream.com)
22:00.12CheadsI have these broken FuBar_LootTyFu, Fubar_FishingBuddyFu, FuBar_DuraTek, FuBar_CheckStoneFu =(
22:00.41ckknighttek says to change TyFu to GroupFu
22:00.48ckknightoutside that, I don't know
22:02.14vhaarrGroupFu is not in the SVN?
22:02.31Tupladwtf @ Ace.toc | Author:  Kaelten (kaelten@gmail.com) | never knew Kaelten is the author of Ace :o
22:03.02CheadsI can easily live without Fubar_FishingBuddyFu.. but sadly not without FuBar_CheckStoneFu, so crossing my fingers =)
22:03.09ckknightTuplad, he is the official maintainer
22:03.16ckknightTuran was the original author
22:03.36*** part/#wowace Cairenn (n=Karen@CPE00045a2bfcbc-CM000f212f84be.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
22:03.54Tupladaha, what happened with Turan ?
22:03.59Mikmalol wtf
22:04.00Shyvastopped with WoW
22:04.07Mikmai ignored a peep and still he can whisper me
22:04.08Tuplad:o
22:04.16Mikmai even tested ignoring my gf and she can whisper me too
22:04.50TupladMikma: :D people are having that bug constantly, in LFG, suddenly you see like 50 ppl going "wtf I can see Tuplad writing ?"
22:05.07Mikmayeah that's really odd
22:05.09*** part/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r43h96.res.gatech.edu)
22:06.40TupladMikma: you develop bartender right ?
22:06.50MikmaTuplad: yea
22:07.14TupladMikma: help me out then ? :D how do I make loading messages ?
22:07.34TupladI just sent u the code I have , would that work ?
22:07.35Mikmachat or popup
22:07.40Tupladto default message frame
22:07.59Mikmayeah i think it should
22:08.11Tuplad<PROTECTED>
22:08.23kergothTuplad: PIL = Programming in Lua.  The first edition is available at no charge on the web.
22:09.02Mikmahttp://www.lua.org/pil <-- READ IT
22:09.03Tupladkergoth: aaah, my bad :)
22:09.05Mikmathis is in topic
22:09.11TupladMikma: it's 0:09.
22:09.55Mikmaand you're point is?
22:10.04Tupladtoo late to read :(
22:10.29Mikma<0109> <Tuplad> Mikma: it's 0:09.
22:10.34Tupladyesh
22:11.50TupladMy computer broke once ... I mastered HTML in 3 days - next time my computer breaks, Im mastering LUA :D
22:14.36kergothhahah, new tshirthell tshirts.. havent checked in a while
22:14.49kergoth"DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS
22:14.51kergothIT'S NOT NICE TO PICK ON RETARDS"
22:15.29kergoth"CANADIANS ARE EH'HOLES"
22:16.57hasteoh lol
22:16.59Tupladkergoth: I had a Tshirt with binary code that says "YOU SUCK" - bought it a year ago :)
22:17.05Tupladhad = have
22:17.12hasteI was out of bandages when I was low on health after a mob
22:17.18hasteso I just made 10 and went afk
22:17.26hastewhen I got back I just jumped the next mob :p
22:17.29kergothhttp://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=664
22:17.38TainIn a sudden geek moment I ordered personal checks with random hexadecimal print background.
22:17.47Tupladhaha
22:17.59TainI'm a little ashamed.
22:18.03kergothhttp://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=673
22:18.05kergothhahah
22:18.19Tupladthere's a band named Tool ?!
22:18.27kergothi hope you're kidding
22:18.27hasteyes
22:18.31hasteso do I :p
22:18.52Tuplad>:|
22:18.58Tupladthat's one lame name then
22:19.13ckknightthey're not lame
22:19.13hasteTool has some very cool sound
22:19.16Tupladdeath metal I guess ?
22:19.18ckknightI like Prison Sex
22:19.19hasteno
22:19.24hasteParabola!
22:19.26ckknightnice and heartwarming
22:19.30TainLateralus!
22:19.30Tuplad:o
22:19.41Tupladwhat genre?
22:19.45hasteTuplad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2XtBC51-Oc
22:19.51Tupladlets see
22:20.03hastethe intro is parabol (if I remember right) then it changes to parabola
22:20.07kergothtool is fantastic
22:20.14TainI was always partial to Aenema.
22:20.24Tupladit's goa isnt it ?
22:21.04kergoth..
22:21.09hastegoa?
22:21.24kergothtool is about as far from goa/trance is you can get
22:21.27TainI still loved the one I saw somewhere that said, "Cheer up, emo kid."
22:21.33kergothhah
22:21.52Tupladhm, that video sounds good :
22:21.58Tupladwill have to leech a few cds
22:22.03TainAh Sober, that was a video.
22:22.08Tupladdownload*
22:22.17Mikmasome rock or so
22:22.22hasteTuplad: listen to the whole video now :p
22:22.31hasteIt's two songs
22:22.46Tupladbut what's the freaking genre ?!
22:22.58TainWhat's the obsession with genre?
22:23.15TupladI wanna know what Im listening to :)
22:23.29TainListening to it will tell you that.
22:23.47Tuplad-_-
22:23.57MikmaTuplad: it's Folk
22:24.02Tupladlike "zomg j00 is listening to psychedelic sounds"
22:24.10TupladMikma: k
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22:25.10Tuplad~morning Grumpey
22:25.12purlACTION bends space and time, trapping Grumpey in a universe of eternal monday mornings
22:25.46Mikma~tryme
22:25.47purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - click.
22:25.47Grumpeylol ../ well . the washer broke yesturday, so .. I guess that's just about par
22:26.49Tuplad~tryme
22:26.50purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Tuplad and pulls the trigger - click.
22:27.01Tuplad~roulette
22:27.02purlACTION watches tuplad pull the trigger:  Click!
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22:29.25Mikmatryme
22:29.28Mikmaga
22:29.31Mikma~tryme
22:29.32purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - click.
22:29.49Wobin~tryme
22:29.50purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Wobin and pulls the trigger - click.
22:30.05Tuplad~tryme
22:30.06purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Tuplad and pulls the trigger - click.
22:30.12Tupladl2shoot noob
22:30.27Tupladwell, that was an incredible song I can say
22:31.22ckknight~tryme
22:31.23purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Sokurai instead of ckknight and pulls the trigger - click.
22:32.27Tem~tryme
22:32.28purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Tem and pulls the trigger - click.
22:32.52Mikmayou almost killed Sokurai
22:32.54Mikma~tryme
22:32.55purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - click.
22:33.12Tuplad:\
22:34.04Mikma~tryme
22:34.06purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - click.
22:34.18Tuplad~roulette
22:34.20purlACTION watches tuplad pull the trigger:  BANG!
22:34.23TupladHA HA !
22:34.46Mikma~tryme
22:34.47purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - click.
22:36.42Mikma~tryme
22:36.44purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - * BANG! *
22:36.50Mikmaand i'm dead
22:36.56Tuplad:<
22:37.09Tupladno bartender 1.05 :(
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22:39.08Mikmawell no-one has made it ;)
22:40.11TupladMikma gave me this piece of code - how would it work ? How do those 2 (text) connect with each other ?
22:40.12Tupladfunction print(text)
22:40.12TupladDEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(text)
22:40.12Tupladend
22:40.55Mikma~tryme
22:40.56purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - click.
22:41.48Industrial`Tuplad, oh my ok. lets try this
22:41.59kergothjesus Tuplad, go read and stop wasting people's time
22:42.10Industrial`right
22:42.11Industrial`:P
22:42.14Tupladkergoth: I looked it up, didnt find anything
22:42.26kergothif you dont understand the concept of a variable, you're beyond help
22:42.32Tupladtrue
22:42.34kergothread PIL repeatedly from front to back until it sinks in
22:42.40kergothalternatively, hit wikipedia for the basic conepts
22:42.42Tuplad:D
22:42.42kergothconcepts, even
22:42.45Industrial`Tuplad, start with how do I use the internets, then move to whats r the HTML?
22:43.09Industrial`I did this when I was 10-11. So yes you are helpless :P
22:43.10Mikma~tryme
22:43.11purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - click.
22:43.12TupladIndustrial`: ¬_¬
22:43.18vhaarrIndustrial`: with the latest idChatPlayernames when I press 'r' to reply to a whisper it tries to reply to the nick without the first letter.
22:43.22Industrial`unless you ARE 10-11
22:43.24vhaarrIndustrial`: like "ndustrial"
22:43.26TupladIndustrial`: I found out what HTML was when I was 13, that's sort of 2 years later ...
22:43.47Industrial`the go bug #php
22:43.49Industrial`then*
22:43.50Industrial`:P
22:43.51Tuplad:D
22:43.58Mikmatake a chillpill
22:44.02MikmaIndustrial--
22:44.07Tupladnever understood php either, quit at the function part aswell :<
22:44.14Industrial`Tuplad--
22:44.17MikmaTuplad--
22:44.26kergothseriously, i dont mean to be insulting, but you're asking questions that require background you don't have in order to understand the answers.
22:44.26TupladTuplad--
22:44.37Industrial`vhaarr, ack really? :( bah :( thought I fixed it
22:44.46Mikmahmm
22:44.51Mikmapurl: Tuplad--
22:44.55Tupladkergoth: :( heh, Im learning :P
22:44.58Mikmaor was it like this hehe
22:45.00Industrial`tomorrow is another day ;D
22:45.11vhaarrIndustrial`: yarly :(
22:45.26vhaarrIndustrial`: or hm, wait
22:45.28Tupladyou see, mikma just taught me how to make a simple toggler(very basic) :) so Im kinda, learning 8-)
22:45.37vhaarractually, it seems it's only if their name starts with 'H' ..
22:45.38NeronixWhat did I miss while I was at work?
22:45.41vhaarrIndustrial`: would that make sense?
22:45.44Neronix(Since 16:30 CET)
22:45.48Mikmawell i'm really not the best teacher for anyone
22:45.49Industrial`vhaarr, could
22:45.58Mikmasince i'm a complete noob of lua myself too
22:46.14Mikmaso, there's extended maintenance.
22:46.16Mikmawhat's new?
22:46.17TupladNeronix: lots of bigwigs update and lots of questions from me(answered: 1)
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22:46.34Tupladehh ... how did u make bartender than ? >:|
22:46.38Tupladthen*
22:46.50Mikmaby coding and trying and coding and trying and x 200
22:46.51Industrial`cause he taught himself
22:46.54Wobin<PROTECTED>
22:47.03MikmaBartender is my ActionBar addon versio 3
22:47.17Tuplad:o
22:47.46TupladIm trying Im trying :P gonna try to make a gui to toggle addons(like Minimalistic)
22:48.03vhaarrwell, not understanding that |text == text| is ...
22:48.07snurre7777g :D
22:48.22vhaarrsnurre: nub, you had that yesterday too
22:48.25vhaarr:P
22:48.38snurreyeah, but bought epic mount for my alt too :p
22:48.44vhaarrlol
22:48.49Tupladvhaarr: I do understand it, but I dont understand how they connect to each other
22:49.01vhaarrTuplad: they don't, because they're the same variable
22:49.40kergothvhaarr: i dont think he knows what a variable is, fundamentally.  he needs to spend time at wikipedia learning the basic concepts before he tries to actually learn a language.
22:49.41Tupladso if I go like, function print(harhar) and then I put a bunch of built in wow functions with (harhar), I'll be able to print(harhar) and they'll all be giving me harhar ?
22:49.50vhaarrkergoth: indeed
22:49.51Tupladkergoth: well, I do kinda know it
22:50.02kergoththere is no kinda.  either you do or not
22:50.11TupladI do know what it is.
22:50.36kergothfunction foo(a, b, c) end creates a closure that accepts 3 arguments, all of which are local variables inside the closure
22:50.38vhaarrjudging from your last question, you
22:50.40vhaarrdon't
22:50.41kergoth(read closure as function if you'd like)
22:50.55vhaarrmaybe I'm just tired and grumpy and need coffee
22:51.07vhaarrIndustrial`: I see a lot of 'H's in that regexp :P
22:51.16kergothi'm definately tired and grumpy and need coffee, but thats pretty much a continual state with me
22:51.18Industrial`vhaarr, yeah :P
22:51.19kergoth:P
22:51.32cladhairedid PlayerFrame.isCasting
22:51.33cladhaireor whatever break?
22:51.35vhaarrkergoth: we've got something in common, then
22:51.35TupladI'll go get some tea and read http://www.lua.org/pil/5.html + http://www.lua.org/pil/16.html#ObjectSec then
22:51.50vhaarrcladhaire: you mean CastingBarFrame.isCasting?
22:51.59Mikma~tryme
22:52.01purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - click.
22:52.19vhaarrTuplad: you'll need to read more than that
22:52.32vhaarrTuplad: it assumes you know what a table, object and states are.
22:52.36vhaarrTuplad: I don't think you do
22:53.24Tupladvhaarr: nah, I prefer looking at other people's code - I didnt learn Dutch or English by reading books, instead, I tried talking with them - gonna do teh same with LUA >_>
22:53.43vhaarrTuplad: this is not Lua, it's common programming principles.
22:53.47kergothlearning by doing is best, but not if you lack the fundamental concepts necessary
22:53.50kergothvhaarr: exactly
22:53.55Tupladtrue
22:54.17TupladI'll figure it out some day :P
22:54.19kergothyou need to google, learn about general programming concepts, _then_ learn _lua_ by coding in it
22:54.26Tupladtrue
22:54.58Mikmakergoth: btw, works now with the moddings you did when i was forrest gumpin'
22:54.59NeronixI should look up stuff on basic concepts
22:55.19NeronixI dunno how I learned to code
22:55.37Mikmakergoth: that's not what i did with lua :D i simply dive in and looked other codes and tested everything out until it worked hehe :D
22:55.39Tuplado_O
22:55.54NeronixAnd I thought I was doing quite well until I only just realised yesterday that hash tables were the proper name for what I was calling tables since april
22:56.06kergothtables are not hash tables.
22:56.11Mikma~tryme
22:56.12purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - click.
22:56.18kergothunder the hood, they're either an array _or_ a hash table
22:56.20TupladNeronix: so you basically taught urself ?
22:56.21kergothdepending
22:56.30kergothso table is what you should be calling it.
22:56.33Mikmakergoth: oh yeah there's one bug with bank and fizzle, wanna hear it?
22:56.41kergothMikma: sure
22:56.49NeronixTuplad: I dunno how. Only previous experience was extremely basic VB in school, which doesn't actually teach much :P
22:56.56kergothMikma: though phyber has now merged my stuff into trunk with his own fixes, so you should test trunk first :)
22:57.01Neronixkergoth: I see
22:57.13Mikmakergoth: some of my bags in bank have durability, and some don't
22:57.22Mikmakergoth: yes this is phyber's kergothed version :D
22:57.35kergothhm, odd, i only tested main frame and a couple of my bags, didnt test all
22:57.40kergothi'll repro
22:57.47Mikmai have only 5 bags
22:57.49TupladNeronix: :o I tried VB, C++, Perl, Python, PHP, BrainFuck - I quit all of them when it came to vars or tables, I think
22:58.13kergoth5 here too
22:58.31Mikmaand slot1 has 100%, slot2 has nothing, slot3 has 100%, slot4 has nothing, slot5 has 90% and slot6 has 100% :D
22:58.33kergothyou cant do anything in any of those without variables :P
22:58.59kergothMikma: mine were all full until chipmunk showed me how to autosend all my engineering crap :)
22:59.15Tupladkerkergothyou cant do anything in any of those without variables -> was that meant for me ?
22:59.31Mikmakergoth: well i'm not meaning a fullstatus but the display on bag :D
22:59.38Mikmakergoth: i'll take a screenie, i love it
23:00.20Mikmaand i'm really getting a strange "error" in game, something like 5 words with 'next' in them :D
23:00.33kergothi have a large red box in the middle of my screen in wow
23:00.35Mikmacan't remember since i did try to take a ss but it failed
23:00.36Industrial`Tuplad, just sopt it and face that you cant do it or go and learn yourself and stop bugging people
23:00.37kergothand i have no idea what addon is putting it there
23:00.50Tupladkergoth: /wh lock
23:01.04Sarozuhm
23:01.10Sarozfubar trunk is for ace2 now?
23:01.13TupladIndustrial`: hm -_-" I faced it when I was, let's say ... 12 :)
23:01.14vhaarryes
23:01.23Sarozwhats the revision for the last ace1?
23:01.24Industrial`Tuplad, then why bring up the matter now
23:01.25vhaarrTuplad: point is that most people here are not interested in teaching you basic programming concepts
23:01.31Sarozlearn2branch, ffs
23:01.46Tupladvhaarr: Im not asking for that :)
23:01.51vhaarryes you are
23:01.54Tupladum :\
23:02.19Tupladvhaarr: it could come over as that, but really, wasnt my intention - Im silently reading on the background hehe :p
23:02.28kergothwhat good is an unlocked frame that you cant drag or do anything with?
23:02.36Mikmakergoth: http://wow.reaktio.net/slots.jpg :D
23:02.38kergoththis red box is just sitting there, cant click it or drag it or anything
23:02.44vhaarrkergoth: wh?
23:02.46Tupladkergoth: it's WitchHunt
23:02.50Tupladkergoth: /wh lock, I told you :)
23:02.51Sarozthank god for SVN
23:02.55vhaarrI was wondering the same thing when I updated it
23:03.08kergothTuplad: yes, i know, and i'm saying its nonsensical
23:03.14vhaarrTuplad: that doesn't answer what it's good for
23:03.14kergothif its unlocked, i should be able to fucking move it
23:03.20kergothif not, its not exactly unlocked, now is it?
23:03.20kergoth:P
23:03.24Tupladaah , I see )
23:03.37Tupladvhaarr: hm ?
23:04.27kergothMikma: ah. it shouldnt be showing durability on those at all.  it isnt doing what you think it is. it isnt showing the durability of all the items in that bag, its showing the durability of some other random item on the bag
23:04.36kergothi'll look into fixing it
23:04.44Mikmakergoth: huh?
23:04.50vhaarrkergoth: I've also seen Fizzle display durability on people I inspect
23:05.01Mikmakergoth: some items don't have dura at all in my bag :)
23:05.02vhaarralthough it was a few (1-3) revisions ago
23:06.21kergothah, i cant repro that.. seems to be fine here.. i'll try with another char
23:06.38hastewas there a patch today?
23:07.42Mikmayes there is
23:07.42kergothvhaarr: it isnt perfect, it has to figure out how to get at the tooltip of teh button but without knowing whether its inventory or what... so we poke at the parent of the button and stuff to determine if its bank or trade or whatnot.. then fall back to inventory if we cant figure it out (so addons like onebag/bagnon wont break it).. but as a result, it shows some places where it shouldnt, so we need to disable it there (i.e. merchants, inspects)
23:07.49Mikmahaste: extended maintenance
23:08.05hasteso it hasn't happened yet?
23:08.09vhaarrkergoth: ah, hacky
23:08.13haste*confused*
23:08.42vhaarrextended maintenance doesn't necessarily mean there will be a patch?
23:08.50hasteexactly
23:08.55hasteand when is US patched?
23:08.58hastehours from now that is
23:09.03hasteor finished :p
23:09.09hastedamn keyboard and brain
23:10.10kergothvhaarr: aye, but the alternatives are much less clean programmatically :)
23:10.56vhaarrhm, I'm guessing it's not, but is it possible to hook WoW API functions? :P
23:11.06Tupladkergoth: I just figured out how that thing with (text) works, lol. took me a while
23:11.21vhaarrTuplad: how does it "work"?
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23:11.42Tupladsec, gonna put that shit on pastebin >_>
23:13.20TupladOk, let's say we have this piece of code: http://pastebin.ca/100241 - text match in both. So if I do print("harhar"), it'll put the "harhar" instead of text in the DCF:AM :D
23:13.44Tupladand you'll see harhar in your chatframe :]
23:14.08Mikmahey peeps, can anyone tell me what's a good Timer-AddOn for MC spawns?
23:14.18hasteyou know what I hate with WoWI?
23:14.29hasteeverytime I move my mouse over the search box, I have to wait for it to drop down
23:14.45Mikmahmm
23:14.45hasteand in that time space, my brain just stops working, and I forget what I was going to search for
23:14.46Tupladhaste: welcome to the club
23:15.08Mikmamaybe i should extend my wow-search portal to Curse-Gaming, ui.worldofwar and wowi addonsearchs :D
23:16.39vhaarrmaybe they should just get their asses in gear and make firefox searchplugins
23:16.52vhaarr:P
23:16.52Tupladhttp://pastebin.ca/100240 this is so silly ... this just is
23:17.11Mikmawhat'cha like my new Avatar? http://mikma.reaktio.net/wagner1.jpg
23:17.17hastemy god
23:17.32hasteplease tell me there is a better way of adding spell rank to the castingbar, then what eCastingBar does
23:17.56haste(ie. on every spellcast start - scan for 200 actionbuttons to see which was used, and then parse the spell book to see if it's a spell)
23:18.45vhaarrouch :P
23:18.55hasteyeh, I also thought that was retarded :p
23:19.02Tuplado_O
23:19.13hastemy  head hurts everytime I look at how eCastingBar does stuff
23:19.16Mikmahaha
23:19.20hastelike... you know it's mirrortimers?
23:19.24Mikmathat's a nice way of detecting spell
23:19.28hasteit doesn't unregister the event
23:19.34kergothckknight: am i missing something, or is dewdrop-2.0 bugged wrt aceoptions 'text' type with get=false?
23:19.36hasteIT actually HIDES it when it shows
23:19.41hastewhy would you do that?
23:20.14hasteoh another thing
23:20.25hasteeCB runs like... 7 unpack()'s every cast :<
23:20.30kergothoww
23:20.33hasteif not more
23:20.46Tupladhaste: in other words, ecb is evil ?
23:21.22hasteokey, a quick grep found 18 unpack()s
23:23.00hastein one of the files that is
23:23.48maiaAce2 question: if my one and only Ace2 addon is in standby mode when reloading ui, how do I tell so in OnEnable()?
23:24.14maia(when reenabling it)
23:24.37haste/ace2 enable XXX ?
23:24.46hasteI haven't played with the standby system at all :p
23:24.58kergothi dont get what you're asking.  in your OnEnable, you want to know if you used to be disabled?
23:24.59Mikma<0216> <Tuplad> http://pastebin.ca/100240 this is so silly ... this just is
23:25.14Mikmathe person described in that must have found internet or so
23:26.11ckknightkergoth, not sure
23:26.27maiathe problem I'm having is that in my OnEnable I'm having: if not AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):IsFullyInitialized() then self:RegisterEvent("AceEvent_FullyInitialized") else self:AceEvent_FullyInitialized() end
23:27.03kergothckknight: try using freerefills from trunk with deucecommander :)
23:27.03Mikmaand it's a really amazing that they had leetnicks 15years ago
23:27.03kergothb00m
23:27.03maiaand I'm using AceEvent_FullyInitialized to start some scheduled events
23:27.35maiawhich works as intended. but: if I reloadui while my addon is in standby mode and then reenable it, AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):IsFullyInitialized() is true, so the event isnt registered.
23:27.59maiaaka it never triggers the function I'm using to start my schedules
23:28.00TupladMikma: http://www.snopes.com/horrors/ghosts/skinned.asp
23:28.45maiakergoth: yup, exactly. I'd want to know if my addon was in standby mode or if it was active and I'm logging in.
23:31.32cladhair1spam
23:31.37CIA-1103cladhaire * r5709 10Clique/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
23:31.37CIA-11Clique:
23:31.37CIA-11* Initial commit of a heal selection addon
23:31.37CIA-11* Provides Clique:EfficientHeal(unit, modifier)
23:31.37CIA-11* Provides Clique:EmergencyHeal(unit, modifier)
23:31.38CIA-11* Unit is optional, but must be supplied (by nil if blank) if you want to pass a modifier
23:31.40CIA-11* Modifier is ADDED to the deficit of the unit (i.e. If the unit is missing 0 health a modifier of 200 will put them at -200 for the algorithm)
23:31.47*** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ
23:33.35Thrae|Awaycladhaire: Does it use a threshold along with the modifier?
23:33.59cladhairewhat would it use a threshold for?
23:34.06cladhaire(honest question, not snatch =)
23:35.19TupladMikma: check whispers
23:35.20Thrae|AwayAck, my brain just stopped.
23:35.33MikmaTuplad: i did
23:36.07Tupladk :)
23:37.15Thrae|Awaycladhaire: Does it already pick the best rank based on the health of the unit vs the healing amount?
23:37.28cladhaireyes
23:37.39cladhairethe lowest mana cost spell that will heal the unit
23:37.43Thrae|AwayOh OK, so the modifier is just maybe for healing gear, right?
23:37.54hasteso - what would the best way to fetch the spell rank of the spell you are currently casting be?
23:38.28Thrae|Awayhaste: I seem to recall SPELLCAST events can give rank, lemme double-check
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23:38.35hasteit doesn't
23:38.43hasteand if it does - I'm retarded and such
23:39.26cladhaireyou can't fetch it.
23:39.29cladhaireit tells you
23:39.31cladhairebut thats it.
23:39.44cladhairei suppose i could store it, but i dont know why i would.
23:39.59hastePeople are dumb, and use addons to play their gam
23:40.05hastes/gam/game/
23:40.05cladhairenot this addon =)
23:40.16hasteso they want oCB to show what ranks they are casting
23:40.18Thrae|AwayMana conservation is an exception! :D
23:40.21hastesince they are dumb and such
23:40.27Thrae|AwayWel, THAT is rather weird
23:40.30cladhairemana conservation is the WORST
23:40.55hasteI looked at how eCB does it
23:41.02hasteand I felt like smashing my head into the table
23:41.04hasteseveral times
23:41.14hasteor a iron pole for that matter
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23:42.20Thrae|Awaycladhaire: Bah no it's not! Auto-targeting and picking different spells is the worst ;)
23:42.37cladhaireauto targeting is the worst
23:42.40cladhairemana consever is second
23:42.47cladhairepeopel who let mods pick their spells sdeserver to die
23:42.57Mikma~tryme
23:43.02purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - click.
23:43.36cladhairelol
23:43.37hasteI'm against: Auto-target, mana conserve, auto select spell, emergency monitors
23:43.51hasteoh
23:43.55hasteand aggro alerts!
23:43.58WobinI'm for: World Peace
23:44.06Mikmaaggroalerts are the best
23:44.14Kyahxhaste: what would be the ramifications of not encoding the s and S in 1.12 since SendAddonMessage isnt affected by drunkeness?
23:44.15Tupladagro allerts suck and are annoying
23:44.15Wobin~tryme
23:44.17purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards [Ammo] instead of Wobin and pulls the trigger - click.
23:44.23maiahaste:  think I just died 4 times in a row.
23:44.26Tupladl2p and no agro worries
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23:44.34hasteKyahx: you don't need to do so in 1.12
23:44.42Kyahxk, becuase I removed it
23:44.43Tupladhaste: emergency monitors and auto select spell ftw :(
23:44.45WobinKyahx: no ramifications
23:44.45hasteKyahx: the chan isn't affected by drunkness
23:44.52Mikmai died only once
23:45.02Kyahxok, but we still need to clean incomeing messages, since CTRA didnt remove their encodeing >:(
23:45.03Mikmaautoselectspell hit me with 12341532476 damage
23:45.14TupladMikma dies
23:45.28Mikma~tryme
23:45.29purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - click.
23:45.46KyahxI got bored at work and hacked up oRA Core today :)
23:45.58Mikmahttp://mikma.reaktio.net/wagner1.jpg !
23:45.59KyahxI dont have much time to test, but it apears to be working on test.  No load errors atleast
23:46.03Mikmalook at my dancing Wagner!
23:46.06Mikmai love it
23:46.26Thrae|AwayI'm scared of your dancing "wagner".
23:46.37Mikmaorly
23:46.45hasteKyahx: oRA2 will need the change also
23:46.47hasteI can take it tho'
23:46.55Kyahxmmkay
23:46.59hasteonly three more days of work!
23:47.04KyahxI didnt want to play with oRA2 becuase I assumed it was already covered
23:47.05hastehopefully there isn't a patch ;D
23:47.14Kyahxbut...if this works oRA1 should be 1.12 ready
23:47.23hasteoRA2 is as covered as oRA1 atm :p
23:47.28Kyahxpsh
23:47.31MikmaThrae|Away: http://matin.maapallo.org/site.pl/selain/?c=viivijawagner&i=1520
23:47.31haste^^
23:47.32Kyahxhehe
23:47.34Mikmamuahahag
23:47.43Kyahxatleast it made the day go faster >.>
23:48.02hastewell, I trust [Ammo] to fix oRA if there is a patch ;)
23:48.26Kyahx:) indeed, im still a lua noob :P
23:49.48Tupladjoin the club kyahx :D
23:49.53Kyahx:)
23:50.23TupladKyahx: check whisper :p
23:50.28MikmaThrae|Away: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viivi_&_Wagner ;)
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23:55.00kergothTekcub: testing a change to Lern2Spell so it doesnt upgrade buttons of that spell whose rank is outside a threshold.  Then people can keep their rank 2 and rank 4 heals on the bar and not have both upgraded to 5 when they level :P
23:55.10kergoth(only the rank 4 will)
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23:55.22Tekcub^^
23:56.07Thrae|AwayTekkub uses spell-choosing mods! :D
23:57.09Mikma~tryme
23:57.10purlACTION takes a revolver, spins the barrel, points it towards Mikma and pulls the trigger - * BANG! *
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23:58.17ToastTheif./script SendChatMessage("Testi\ng", "GUILD")
23:58.17ToastTheif<PROTECTED>
23:58.34Tupladwhy is that ? :]
23:59.00ToastTheifno more 20 sec log outs
23:59.15kergothhahah, nice
23:59.22TupladToastTheif: happy u :( I have the addon "Nice"
23:59.35ToastTheifwhat's "nice"
23:59.37Tupladand by an unknown reason, if I remove "Nice" and type \n, it'll just show up as \n  :/

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