irclog2html for #wowace on 20060729

`00:00.03`	`Tek`	`but I need a fucking name so I can post it up`
`00:00.06`	`Tain`	`What's that feature?`
`00:00.14`	`Kyahx`	`TekNickColor?`
`00:00.16`	`Kebinusan`	`PrettyNames`
`00:00.16`	`Jens`	`"Fresco"`
`00:00.18`	`Tek`	`what SCCN did`
`00:00.22`	`JoshBorke`	`ColorMeNamesMate`
`00:00.23`	`Jens`	`</random brain dump>`
`00:00.26`	`Tek`	`before it decided it should do more`
`00:00.30`	`Tain`	`What did SCCN do?`
`00:00.32`	ag`_	`Kyahx, http://ace.pastebin.ca/104557`
`00:00.39`	`Kyahx`	`thanks`
`00:00.39`	`Kebinusan`	`tain, everything`
`00:00.40`	`Tek`	`colored chat names`
`00:01.14`	`Tain`	`Ah.`
`00:01.16`	`Jens`	`Fresco relates to colors in that it's a style of painting. Just brain storming, but it sounds catchy.`
`00:01.19`	`Tek`	`SCCN/ChatMOD: 1400 lines... my mod: 84 lines`
`00:01.22`	`Kebinusan`	`Color chat names, hide chatbox buttons, mousewheel scrolling, color pins on the map,`
`00:01.23`	`ckknight`	`http://www.happynews.com/news/7282006/288-pound-man-gets-288-jellybeans.htm`
`00:01.28`	`Kebinusan`	`and then some`
`00:01.43`	`Tek`	`Fresco, people will think I typo'd Fresca`
`00:01.49`	`Tain`	`haha nice jelly beans`
`00:01.49`	`Jens`	`Fresca?`
`00:01.51`	`Kebinusan`	`chatmod had a few things too... some features were disabled if you ran confab which was nice`
`00:02.20`	`*** part/#wowace Mikk (i=bofh@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com)`
`00:02.21`	`Tek`	`it's a soda`
`00:02.44`	`Kyahx`	`I stand by my suggestion of Teknicolor :P`
`00:02.54`	`Jens`	`That's cool.`
`00:03.01`	`Tek`	`it's so corny`
`00:03.03`	`Tek`	`it'll do`
`00:03.05`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`00:03.15`	`Tek`	`if people don't like it they can suggest shit, assholes`
`00:03.48`	`Jens`	`Developing would be so much easier, without all the dumb users.`
`00:04.23`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`00:04.53`	`Jens`	`Life in general would be easier without dumb people...`
`00:05.05`	`Jens`	`Take my upstairs neighbour for example... sigh`
`00:05.53`	`Jens`	`But I made him scared of me, so now he turns off his music when he sees me :D`
`00:06.30`	`ckknight`	`how'd you accomplish that?`
`00:07.01`	`Jens`	`But repeatedly screaming in his face, at the top of my lungs, to turn his shitty 80s pop music off, at 3 AM at night.`
`00:07.15`	`Tek`	`stupid 80's music`
`00:07.30`	`Jens`	`He smokes and drinks all the time. Total stoner.`
`00:07.48`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: You should commit to svn trunk`
`00:07.51`	`cladhaire`	`with an option for tooltips`
`00:07.55`	`cladhaire`	`cause it'd take 2 seconds =)`
`00:08.02`	`Tem`	`is the svn back up?`
`00:08.04`	`Jens`	`I wish someone would have the good sense to stab him, instead of other neighbour.`
`00:08.08`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: aye`
`00:08.08`	`Jens`	`Pretend I didn't say that.`
`00:08.22`	`Tain`	`Done and done!`
`00:08.40`	`Jens`	`How this relates to lua script I don't know.`
`00:08.41`	`Saroz`	`so to check in a folder, I do a SVN import, right?`
`00:08.45`	`Jens`	`<-- tangent guy`
`00:09.00`	`Tain`	`Well Lua is like a box of chocolates.`
`00:09.06`	`cladhaire`	`Saroz: best bet is to remotely create a folder.`
`00:09.09`	`cladhaire`	`then check that folder out.`
`00:09.11`	`cladhaire`	`add fiels to it`
`00:09.15`	`cladhaire`	`svn add them to the local copy`
`00:09.17`	`cladhaire`	`then commit`
`00:09.17`	`haste`	`zomg, it's up ;D`
`00:09.18`	`Saroz`	`ah yea, will do that`
`00:09.18`	`cladhaire`	`imho =)`
`00:09.37`	`Kyahx`	`(!)`
`00:09.39`	`Kyahx`	`yay :)`
`00:09.54`	`Jens`	`It's just... my work day starts at 5 AM, so I have very little tolerance towards people ruining the tiny amount of sleep I get during weekdays :)`
`00:10.11`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight 07FuBarPlugin-2.0 * r6057 10FuBar/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - more FuBar 2.0 checks`
`00:10.26`	`Neronix`	`It's alive!`
`00:10.59`	`cladhaire`	`i feel like i should release this new PR`
`00:10.59`	`cladhaire`	`cause its so much better`
`00:11.05`	`cladhaire`	`even if it still sucks`
`00:11.21`	`Tain`	`You suck`
`00:11.48`	`cladhaire`	`thats true.`
`00:12.23`	`Kyahx`	`cladhaire: I fixed ugly mouseover highlighting :P`
`00:12.28`	`Tem`	`so did I`
`00:12.28`	`cladhaire`	`haha`
`00:12.30`	`cladhaire`	`tem did`
`00:12.32`	`cladhaire`	`i bet he wins =)`
`00:12.42`	`Tem`	`got a SS, clad?`
`00:12.45`	`cladhaire`	`yyeah`
`00:12.47`	`cladhaire`	`hold on a sec`
`00:12.50`	`cladhaire`	`its.. soooooo hot.`
`00:12.52`	`Tem`	`(not the one I gave you earlier)`
`00:12.58`	`CIA-11`	`03tekkub * r6058 10Teknicolor/ (. Core.lua Teknicolor.toc):`
`00:12.59`	`CIA-11`	`Teknicolor - Initial Submission`
`00:12.59`	`CIA-11`	`- Simple mod, colors chat names by the unit's raid class color, if the unit's class is known. No fancy options, no savedvars, not even Ace-dependant!`
`00:12.59`	`CIA-11`	`- No, I will not add _ANY_ features to this, it's complete save a few bugfixes.`
`00:13.00`	`Tem`	`(it's evolved a bit since then`
`00:13.07`	`Tain`	`I finally got my guildleader to try out BigWigs. Of course he sends me tells, "This is great! So much better!" etc. etc.`
`00:13.16`	`ckknight`	`Tek, don't even use Ace2?`
`00:13.23`	`Tek`	`Tain: I was in my hubby's guild's ZG`
`00:13.29`	`Tek`	`we finally take down a boss...`
`00:13.31`	`ckknight`	`actually, for that, it's not really needed...`
`00:13.33`	`Tain`	`If only I weren't such an asshole I could get people to listen to me more.`
`00:13.37`	`ckknight`	`I'd've used AceHook, though`
`00:13.40`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`00:13.50`	`Tek`	`I get a tell from the leader... "You used the FF fanfare, you fucker!"`
`00:13.53`	`haste`	`Tain: That's like the reversed of my guild`
`00:13.57`	`Tek`	`I didn't even know he was usin it :)`
`00:13.59`	`Tain`	`hahah`
`00:14.03`	`haste`	`I can say: use bigwigs, then 20 people download it`
`00:14.04`	`cladhaire`	`tem where were you dumping stuff?`
`00:14.15`	`Tem`	`imagelink.org`
`00:14.20`	`Tem`	`it's admined by the CT guys`
`00:14.24`	`Tain`	`Yeah no one listens to me, haste. Well that's not true, a few people know.`
`00:14.25`	`Kyahx`	`:(`
`00:14.43`	`Tain`	`A few people will grab something immediately if I say it's better.`
`00:14.52`	`Tain`	`But the rest... well they're too set in their ways.`
`00:14.58`	`Tek`	`ckk, nope, I was trying to prove a point... I.E. how HUGE ChatMOD is and how tiny it could be`
`00:15.08`	`Tek`	`besides, it doesn't need options`
`00:15.08`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`00:15.08`	`haste`	`okey, I added the spell rank to the castingbar`
`00:15.13`	`Jens`	`Nobody listens to me.`
`00:15.13`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`00:15.16`	`Tek`	`on or off, "It just works"`
`00:15.18`	`ckknight`	`lemme checkout`
`00:15.22`	`Tain`	`But with the guildleader on board with BigWigs and then OneBag (he was extatic about OneBag) it will improve from here.`
`00:15.23`	`haste`	`by hooking UseAction and just checking the tooltip`
`00:15.34`	`cladhaire`	`doesn't take png?`
`00:15.43`	`Tain`	`I'm ah.. a wee bit of a malcontent in my guild.`
`00:15.48`	`Tain`	`But they brought it upon themselves.`
`00:16.00`	`cladhaire`	`http://imagelink.org/temp/281`
`00:16.10`	`haste`	`Guess I'll just do it like I currently do - reset the var after .3 sec`
`00:16.17`	`haste`	`(which contains current spell rank)`
`00:16.24`	`haste`	`(so it doesn't end up on EVERYTHING)`
`00:16.37`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: it falls short of the health bar on my install`
`00:16.42`	`cladhaire`	`it should extend slightly beyond imo`
`00:16.48`	`Tem`	`oh noes`
`00:17.38`	`Tain`	`At least so far I've stopped myself from buying a microphone.`
`00:17.47`	`Kyahx`	`cladhaire: I want to steal your UI texture at the bottom :P`
`00:17.56`	`cladhaire`	`Kyahx: k`
`00:18.00`	`cladhaire`	`Kyahx: i stole it from someone else.`
`00:18.07`	`haste`	`Moonsorrow used it`
`00:18.08`	`Tain`	`I know it will only be worse late into a raid after I've been drinking and I have Ventrilo at my disposal when someone screws up.`
`00:18.11`	`haste`	`on the XRaid screenshot`
`00:18.43`	`Tem`	`cladhaire, oh, I bet I used offset wrong`
`00:18.56`	`Tem`	`and you have a setting higher than me`
`00:19.42`	`Kyahx`	ag`_: Would it be possible to change the health and mana bar textures seperately?
`00:20.04`	ag`_	`Kyahx, I could add it but it is not an option at the moment`
`00:20.16`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: hrm`
`00:20.22`	`cladhaire`	`lemme know what you want me to change`
`00:20.24`	`Kyahx`	`not a priority, just would be nice for my UI`
`00:20.24`	`cladhaire`	`or comit =)`
`00:20.38`	ag`_	`I am trying not to add too many bloat stuff, and I've yet to see why one would need different textures on the bars`
`00:20.40`	`Tem`	`I'm trying to reproduce it`
`00:21.11`	`Kyahx`	ag`_: I made the striped texture in oUF to compliment the Smooth texture on HP bars :P
`00:21.26`	`Tem`	`cladhaire, hmm, no my guess was wrong`
`00:21.26`	`Kyahx`	`just asthetics, nothing important`
`00:21.31`	ag`_	`ok`
`00:21.38`	ag`_	`Well I can add it later`
`00:21.43`	`Tem`	`cladhaire, go into PRaid.lua around line 818`
`00:21.48`	ag`_	`right now I am just working on reproducing a bug for ckk`
`00:21.55`	`Kyahx`	`np :)`
`00:21.55`	`Tem`	`and stick a self:Msg(offset)`
`00:21.55`	ag`_	`so I can make a damn bug report`
`00:22.00`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`00:22.32`	`CIA-11`	`03saroz * r6059 10sRaidFrames/ (7 files in 2 dirs): sRaidFrames: Initial Commit, use with caution.`
`00:22.34`	`Saroz`	`did I do it right? :)`
`00:22.43`	`Kyahx`	`lets see... :P`
`00:23.16`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: Offset is 5`
`00:23.22`	`Tem`	`hrm`
`00:23.41`	`Tem`	`I bet you got nice and spammed, didn't you?`
`00:23.58`	`Tem`	`oh god I'm dumb`
`00:24.04`	`Tem`	`I could have just scrolled the fuck up`
`00:24.13`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`00:24.37`	`Tem`	`well anyway, that's the same that mine are`
`00:26.07`	`cladhaire`	`shit i've never been in a raid with a guild that isn't special ed`
`00:26.07`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`00:26.25`	`Tem`	`I rode the short bus to school`
`00:26.44`	`*** part/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r43h96.res.gatech.edu)`
`00:27.31`	`CIA-11`	`03thrae * r6060 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - Will no longer reset scale.`
`00:28.34`	`ckknight`	`Tek, you mind if I hack on Teknicolor?`
`00:30.06`	`Tek`	`yes`
`00:30.17`	`Tek`	`if you want to write something else go ahead`
`00:30.34`	`Tek`	`but leave it alone`
`00:30.37`	`ckknight`	`but I'm making it more efficient and smaller :-(`
`00:30.52`	`Tek`	`branch then :P`
`00:31.10`	`ckknight`	`ah, too much effort`
`00:31.15`	`Tek`	`kek`
`00:32.05`	`ckknight`	`line 18, change pairs to ipairs`
`00:32.18`	`Tek`	`changed`
`00:32.35`	`ckknight`	`I'd've also done:`
`00:32.38`	`Tek`	`think I really need to unregister during zone?`
`00:32.49`	`ckknight`	`for i = 1,7 do local f = getglobal("ChatFrame" .. i)`
`00:32.51`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`00:32.54`	`ckknight`	`but that's just me`
`00:33.12`	`Tek`	`I was trying to avoid the getglobal, but meh either way works`
`00:33.13`	`ckknight`	`Tek, prolly not with 1.11's stuff`
`00:33.28`	`kergoth`	`Teknicolor?`
`00:33.42`	`kergoth`	`ah`
`00:33.44`	`ckknight`	`line 21 causes an infinite recursion, you know`
`00:33.46`	`Tek`	`SCCN/ChatMOD`
`00:34.04`	`Tek`	`21 was a debug message`
`00:34.11`	`Tek`	`baleted!`
`00:34.23`	`Thrae`	`Tek: Avoid getglobal with local _G = getfenv(0) :D`
`00:35.20`	`ckknight`	`Tek, I'm gonna branch to put a database in there, e.g. save people's colors on logout`
`00:35.56`	`Tek`	`I see no need to do that`
`00:36.32`	`Tek`	`if they're not in your group or guild, why would their color really matter?`
`00:36.42`	`ckknight`	`I just like to know`
`00:37.21`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6061 10/branches/Teknicolor/: Teknicolor - preparing for branch`
`00:37.46`	`Thrae`	`It's about PEOPLE, not COLOR!`
`00:38.49`	`Thrae`	`Grrr, why does everyone seem to care about this 1 pixel offset added by the game engine`
`00:39.04`	`Thrae`	`Now I'll have to hack around the game engine's weirdness...again.`
`00:39.18`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com)`
`00:39.18`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`00:39.52`	`cladhaire`	`deficit looks.. REALLY bad on my version`
`00:39.55`	`cladhaire`	`Tem, can you look at it?`
`00:40.04`	`Tem`	`never used it`
`00:40.13`	`CIA-11`	`03tekkub * r6062 10Teknicolor/Core.lua:`
`00:40.13`	`CIA-11`	`Teknicolor`
`00:40.13`	`CIA-11`	`- Now uses getfenv(0) in the heek loop`
`00:40.13`	`CIA-11`	`- Simpler event registration`
`00:42.34`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r6063 10Teknicolor/: Branching Teknicolor`
`00:43.25`	ag`_	`ok ckknight, where do I submit bugreports?`
`00:43.42`	`ckknight`	`ttp://www.wowace.com/flyspray/`
`00:43.47`	`ckknight`	`^-- h`
`00:44.17`	`Tem`	`cladhaire, what looks bad about it?`
`00:44.29`	`Tem`	`ew it's tiny`
`00:44.34`	`Tem`	`too tiny`
`00:44.40`	`Kyahx`	`its always been like that hasn't it?`
`00:44.47`	ag`_	`just wanted to say that I just got some php errors when trying to create an account there`
`00:44.52`	`Tem`	`not sure who did that one`
`00:44.57`	ag`_	`it said it sent me an email though, so I pray that it works`
`00:44.59`	`Tem`	`I shall have to use svn blame`
`00:45.39`	`ckknight`	ag`_, it should've
`00:46.18`	`*** join/#wowace XLVII (i=XLVII@CPE-58-162-73-125.qld.bigpond.net.au)`
`00:46.35`	`Tem`	`Kyahx, it's you!`
`00:46.43`	`Kyahx`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:46.45`	`Kyahx`	`what did I do?`
`00:46.51`	`Tem`	`you're the one responcible for the deficit nastyness`
`00:46.58`	`Kyahx`	`oh?`
`00:47.02`	`Kyahx`	`I didnt touch that did it?`
`00:47.18`	`Tem`	`svn blame says you changed those lines last`
`00:47.37`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`00:47.40`	`cladhaire`	`he merged`
`00:47.45`	`Kyahx`	`weird, all I did last was change the highlight`
`00:47.50`	`Tem`	`bah`
`00:48.06`	`Kyahx`	`=(`
`00:48.27`	`Tem`	`cladhaire, did you restart yet to see the full glory of the highlight?`
`00:48.32`	`cladhaire`	`NO`
`00:48.33`	`cladhaire`	`im raiding`
`00:48.36`	`cladhaire`	`with a guild that isn't mind`
`00:48.40`	`cladhaire`	`so i can't log mid raid`
`00:48.42`	`Tem`	`I don't give two shits`
`00:48.52`	`kergoth`	`do you give just one?`
`00:48.56`	`cladhaire`	`good question`
`00:49.09`	`Tem`	`"My UI is messed up, I need to restart"`
`00:49.17`	`CIA-11`	`03tekkub * r6064 10Teknicolor/Core.lua:`
`00:49.17`	`CIA-11`	`Teknicolor`
`00:49.18`	`CIA-11`	`- Even simpler event handler!`
`00:49.18`	`CIA-11`	`- Target change detection will only save PC's of your faction, no more NPCs or enemy PC's`
`00:49.27`	`kergoth`	`so, earlier, i had both auctioneer and the wowecon auction data loaded`
`00:49.35`	`kergoth`	`my ui, no shit, hit 85 megs`
`00:49.38`	`kergoth`	`i was most amused`
`00:49.47`	`Tem`	`"be back in 2 minutes"`
`00:49.54`	`Tem`	`surely they won't have a cow`
`00:50.03`	`Tem`	`damnit clad, I have to go soon`
`00:50.09`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`00:50.13`	`Kyahx`	`"I'm lagging, I'm going to restart my game" always works`
`00:50.18`	`Tem`	`I clocke dout 45 minutes ago and I'm still at work waiting for your noob ass to restart`
`00:50.23`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r6065 10Teknicolor/ (Core.lua Teknicolor.toc): Teknicolor - added database`
`00:50.30`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`00:50.33`	`CIA-11`	`03saroz * r6066 10sRaidFrames/Bindings.xml: sRaidFrames: Don't allow players to show raid frames, using keybindings, when the frames are in a disabled state.`
`00:50.40`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: Don't.`
`00:50.43`	`cladhaire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:50.46`	`snurre`	`teknicolor o.O`
`00:50.49`	`cladhaire`	`or rahther, i'm not going to =)`
`00:50.55`	`Tem`	`gah`
`00:50.58`	`Tem`	`what's wrong with you?`
`00:51.10`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`00:51.12`	`Tem`	`I can get away with restarts all the time`
`00:51.30`	`Tem`	`fine, I'm going to my appartment`
`00:51.34`	`Tek`	`39 line now :)`
`00:51.36`	`Tem`	`and when I get there, I'm logging back on`
`00:51.48`	`cladhaire`	`ok`
`00:51.51`	`Tem`	`if you haven't restarted, there will be hell to pay`
`00:51.56`	`Tek`	`ChatMOD is 1389 lines grin`
`00:52.01`	`Tem`	`lol tek`
`00:52.27`	`ckknight`	`that was really easy to add, Tek`
`00:52.33`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`00:52.46`	`Tek`	`I know it was, but I don't want that data to persist`
`00:53.11`	`Tek`	`because that table'll just get bigger and bigger... and what if someone deletes and rerolls with the same name?`
`00:53.40`	`Tek`	`and I really don't see reason to save it, if you're not interacting with them in the current session, who cares about their class?`
`00:54.02`	`Tek`	`on the public channels it seems not worth the extra problems presisting the data presents`
`00:54.33`	ag`_	`Ok, flyspray isn't sending me mail. And it's giving me php error messages.`
`00:55.26`	`ckknight`	KaeltenAway, ping, ag` has problems with flyspray
`00:55.40`	`ckknight`	`I like to know what class I'm talking to in general, tek`
`00:55.45`	`ckknight`	`even if I'm not "interacting"`
`00:55.50`	`Tek`	`:P`
`00:56.18`	`Tek`	`shrug I'm happy with 39 lines, I proved my point`
`00:56.30`	`Thrae`	`Does anyone here have a guild that uses a raid calendar addon?`
`00:56.40`	`Tek`	`you can do whatever you want with it, but make it a branch or a spawn-off mod`
`00:57.30`	`Kyahx`	`Thrae: we sort of use GroupCalendar`
`00:57.35`	`Kyahx`	`but its so bloated alot of people stopped`
`00:57.44`	ag`_	`there's no dewdrop category on flyspray :D`
`00:57.51`	`kergoth`	`gem and groupcalendar are both highly inefficient`
`00:57.53`	`CIA-11`	`03tekkub * r6067 10Teknicolor/Core.lua:`
`00:57.53`	`CIA-11`	`Teknicolor`
`00:57.53`	`CIA-11`	`- Cut out 5 more lines, just for fun`
`00:58.03`	`kergoth`	`but theres no good alternative`
`00:58.05`	`Thrae`	`Yeah I know, but there isn't any alternative out there AFAIK.`
`00:58.20`	`Thrae`	`Just like how there's no good alternative to CTA`
`00:58.36`	`Tek`	`CTA needs a heavy rewrite now`
`00:58.49`	`ckknight`	ag`_, hang on...
`00:58.52`	`Thrae`	`They all do, for SendAddonMessage.`
`00:58.55`	`haste`	`otravi_CallToArms!`
`00:58.59`	`haste`	`I can see it coming!`
`00:59.00`	`haste`	`or not...`
`00:59.00`	`Tek`	`strip out all the channel echo shit and turn it into an advanced LFG channel filter/searcher`
`00:59.09`	`Kyahx`	`Couldn't you take a mod like EarPlugs but do the reverse? Log the message you do care about?`
`00:59.11`	`kergoth`	`i'm happy enough with earplug, personaly`
`00:59.32`	`Thrae`	`Does EarPlug log messages?`
`00:59.35`	`Kyahx`	`no`
`00:59.44`	`Kyahx`	`it filters out the crap you dont want to hear`
`00:59.50`	`kergoth`	`Kyahx: no.`
`00:59.57`	`ckknight`	`I'm putting in a "Libraries" project for Flyspray`
`00:59.57`	`kergoth`	`its filter list if what gets shown, not what gets hidden`
`01:00.03`	`Kyahx`	`well, yea`
`01:00.04`	`Tek`	`I've always wanted a simple Tradeskill-esque frame for LFG channel`
`01:00.12`	`Kyahx`	`so if its not "LFG" it gets the boot!`
`01:00.12`	`Thrae`	`That's all I need my CTA replacement to do, log LFG messages. The LFG channel still goes by too fast on my server.`
`01:00.12`	`Tek`	`expandable sections by instance`
`01:00.16`	`kergoth`	`and now that it supports profiles, you could easily create custom profiles when you're looking for a specific instance`
`01:00.39`	`ckknight`	`how do I add a new project? ...`
`01:00.44`	`Kyahx`	`Thrae: goes by too fast with actuall LFG messages?`
`01:00.47`	`Tek`	`you ask Kael`
`01:00.49`	`Thrae`	`Of course, I could easily hack EarPlug to do that.`
`01:00.59`	`Kyahx`	`our server is all chuck norris jokes and insults`
`01:01.26`	ag`_	`which server isn't`
`01:01.34`	`*** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@220-245-171-249.tpgi.com.au)`
`01:01.39`	`Thrae`	`Kyahx: Well, I guess I could use the ChatFrame's built-in logging ability`
`01:01.51`	`Kyahx`	`hmm`
`01:01.54`	`ckknight`	`mang...`
`01:02.06`	`Thrae`	`When I mean "logging", I don't mean to a file, I just mean for the last 15 minutes or so.`
`01:02.11`	`Kyahx`	`yea`
`01:02.25`	`kergoth`	`make a dead simple little chatframe like warmup uses`
`01:02.28`	`kergoth`	`thatd be perfect for it`
`01:02.37`	`Kyahx`	`well, it would be nice to be able to "sort" the messages`
`01:02.38`	`kergoth`	`branch earplug and add that or something :)`
`01:02.44`	`Kyahx`	`perhaps by keyword?`
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`01:03.12`	`Kyahx`	`ie if a messages gets "logged" becuase of the word "scholo". you'd be able to see all the messages that had "scholo" in it`
`01:03.35`	`kergoth`	`how about just coloring the txt that matched the pattern?`
`01:03.47`	`Kyahx`	`hmm, that would work`
`01:03.49`	`XLVII`	`just don't make it like sccn..`
`01:03.53`	`kergoth`	`if you're just using lf%dm or whatever, itd show that, but otherwise would highlight scholo row ahtever you're lookin for`
`01:03.56`	`Kyahx`	`keep a simple warmup type frame`
`01:04.01`	`Kyahx`	`yea`
`01:04.06`	`XLVII`	`just add another chat window`
`01:04.09`	`cladhaire`	`how in the hell do you heal as a druid`
`01:04.12`	`XLVII`	`that'd be my idea.`
`01:04.16`	`cladhaire`	`this raid healing with slow heals is.. odd`
`01:04.17`	`kergoth`	`XLVII: warmup uses a chat widnow, its just simplified`
`01:04.22`	`kergoth`	`XLVII: never used it?`
`01:04.26`	`Kyahx`	`cladhaire: you don't heal?`
`01:04.30`	ag`_	`cladhaire, rank 3 or something`
`01:04.31`	`Kyahx`	`???`
`01:04.39`	`XLVII`	`kergoth, i have.. but i'm thinking of a new chat window.`
`01:04.43`	`XLVII`	`as in`
`01:04.45`	`cladhaire`	`i'm using my 900 hp heal`
`01:04.47`	`cladhaire`	`i'm used to my priest`
`01:04.52`	`cladhaire`	`1.4 second heals ftw`
`01:05.00`	`kergoth`	`its pointless. earplug can already filter teh channel, so go enable the filtered channel on a seperate window if you want it`
`01:05.00`	`Kyahx`	`I kinda liked healing on a druid`
`01:05.04`	`kergoth`	`the addon doesnt need to do that`
`01:05.13`	`XLVII`	`kergoth, i think i came in at the wrong time.`
`01:05.15`	`Thrae`	`cladhaire: Moonkin or Feral Druid?`
`01:05.16`	`XLVII`	`;F`
`01:05.18`	`XLVII`	`so forget me.`
`01:05.23`	`Kyahx`	`pew pew!`
`01:05.23`	`kergoth`	`the useful part is having a fframe you can pull up to show the backlog of filtered messages`
`01:05.28`	`kergoth`	`s/ff/f/`
`01:05.29`	`cladhaire`	`I'm 0/30/21 down to NS`
`01:05.36`	ag`_	`oomkin! (someone had to say it)`
`01:05.42`	`cladhaire`	`i LOVE FD detection in PR =)`
`01:05.47`	`Thrae`	`Ah right, remember you talking about your spec`
`01:06.00`	`vhaarr`	`Thrae: "TinyTip\TinyTip.lua:160: table index is nil" with the latest svn revision, happens when I log in`
`01:06.12`	`Thrae`	`vhaarr: Hmmm`
`01:06.40`	`Thrae`	`Can PEW fire before ADDON_LOADED?`
`01:07.04`	`kergoth`	`Thrae: if the addon is LoD...`
`01:07.14`	ag`_	`are we there yet?`
`01:07.30`	`cladhaire`	`Mendy not show ZG classes on coins anymore?`
`01:07.30`	`kergoth`	`dont make me turn this channel around`
`01:07.45`	`Kyahx`	`Thrae: getting the same problem`
`01:07.56`	`Tek`	`coins have no use but Rep now clad`
`01:08.18`	`CIA-11`	`03thrae * r6068 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - Added some checks for cases that should never happen.`
`01:08.18`	`cladhaire`	`really?`
`01:08.20`	`Tek`	`yup`
`01:08.24`	`cladhaire`	`its been so long since i've raided.`
`01:08.29`	`Tek`	`same for bijous`
`01:08.46`	`Tek`	`patch1.11 made the quests require only the purple token`
`01:09.04`	`cladhaire`	`thats for enchantments, right?`
`01:09.09`	`cladhaire`	`or the quests`
`01:09.10`	`Kyahx`	`I wish they'd change MC and BWL to use a token system like that =/`
`01:09.14`	`cladhaire`	`oh the quests and reps`
`01:09.38`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, yes`
`01:10.24`	ag`_	`can I report yet?`
`01:10.28`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: Slower computers that can't load 100+ addons before PEW fires?`
`01:11.19`	`Thrae`	`Actually, wait, I'm confused.`
`01:11.28`	`Thrae`	`I only register for PEW at the end of ADDON_LOADED.`
`01:11.48`	`Thrae`	`Oh well, latest SVN should fix the errors.`
`01:19.18`	ag`_	`woah, Gilette makes razors with 6 blades now`
`01:19.54`	`kergoth`	`hah`
`01:22.20`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, no, LoD addons can load after PEW`
`01:22.25`	`ckknight`	`all non-LoD addons load before PEW`
`01:22.44`	`ckknight`	`also, I recommend PLAYER_LOGIN over PEW`
`01:23.17`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: Does that fire on reload and instances?`
`01:24.01`	`CIA-11`	`03chinkuwaila * r6069 10BigWigs/ZG/ (Hakkar.lua Jeklik.lua Marli.lua Thekal.lua): BigWigs (Mar'li, Jeklik, Hakkar, Thekal): updated deDE localization`
`01:24.17`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, PL doesn't`
`01:24.20`	`ckknight`	`it only fires once`
`01:24.44`	`Thrae`	`Yeah, I need an event which always fires on zone changes, reload, anything else that resets UI Scale.`
`01:25.26`	`ckknight`	`PEW, then`
`01:25.48`	`ckknight`	`uiscale can be changed throuh the interface menu, which fires off UPDATE_CVAR`
`01:25.55`	`ckknight`	`but not for UIScale`
`01:26.13`	`ckknight`	`so what you do is set a 1-frame schedule when UPDATE_CVAR occurs`
`01:26.16`	`Thrae`	`Well, specifically, a frame's scale. GameTooltip, which is not effected by the CVar uiscale.`
`01:26.24`	`MvA\|Slayman`	`Sweet, Gummo is BCing in about an hour. have to watch it once more. I'm furthermore off for tonight. So long guys`
`01:26.25`	`ckknight`	`e.g. self:ScheduleEvent(self.SomeFunc, 0, self)`
`01:26.30`	`ckknight`	`ah, okay`
`01:26.53`	ag`_	`ckknight, sorry to bug you again... Any progress on adding a place for dewdrop bug submissions?`
`01:27.21`	`ckknight`	`wait until Kael wakes up`
`01:27.23`	`kergoth`	`hey whats that small addon to be able to alt-click an item to search for it in the AH?`
`01:28.22`	`vhaarr`	`lol, my lvl 8 warrior just got the onyxia buff`
`01:28.28`	`haste`	`vhaarr: that's so imba`
`01:28.30`	`vhaarr`	`hi2u +140 AP`
`01:28.43`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`01:28.43`	`haste`	`and 5% crit`
`01:28.50`	`vhaarr`	`yarr, haha`
`01:28.57`	`haste`	`isn't it HP also?`
`01:29.03`	`haste`	`no.. that's warchiefs`
`01:29.20`	`vhaarr`	`well, I don't know, since I was just in for addons sake I logged off`
`01:29.30`	`vhaarr`	`so I don't waste it :)`
`01:35.08`	`Kyahx`	`hmmm, I need to steal art from some UI. For a bottom bar`
`01:35.16`	`Kyahx`	`I used to have something that Moonsorrow used, then i lost it`
`01:36.28`	`Thrae`	`Hmmmm`
`01:36.32`	`ckknight`	`mjc's not here`
`01:36.33`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`01:37.31`	`Thrae`	`The game engine is manually setting the FontString height whenever the line "PvP" is added to GameTooltip. Resetting the height back to what it should be isn't working.`
`01:38.00`	`ckknight`	`omg omg omg!`
`01:38.05`	`Kyahx`	`omg!`
`01:38.14`	`ckknight`	`WoW 1.12 still plays sounds when minimized`
`01:38.23`	`haste`	`http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/905/suiqv8.jpg`
`01:38.24`	`ckknight`	`you know what that means: you get to do things waiting for BG`
`01:38.39`	`haste`	`no!`
`01:38.39`	`Kyahx`	`haste: lol`
`01:38.57`	`haste`	`that's one of the arguments for playing under Linux!`
`01:39.01`	`kergoth`	`gosh i love JIM_Abacus`
`01:39.04`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: Oooo, now we just need to add an option to VolumeFu to mute everything BUT BG sounds :D`
`01:39.22`	`ckknight`	`which would be easy enough`
`01:39.33`	`ckknight`	`I wonder if an event is fired...`
`01:40.14`	`ckknight`	`nope`
`01:40.20`	`Thrae`	`Yeah I would love a GAME_MINIMIZED and GAME_MAXIMIZED event.`
`01:40.25`	`Thrae`	`Err`
`01:40.30`	`Thrae`	`GAME_RESTORED`
`01:41.01`	`ckknight`	`lets bug slouken?`
`01:41.38`	`Kyahx`	`hmm, that would be kinda nice`
`01:41.43`	`Kyahx`	`have oRA track "Alt-Tabbed"`
`01:42.05`	`Thrae`	`Yeah, either in WoWI or UI Forum`
`01:42.20`	`Thrae`	`I still need to bug him about GameTooltip changes :D`
`01:42.42`	`Kebinusan`	`there is a mod called BGSwitch thats pretty neat`
`01:42.44`	`ckknight`	`alt-tabbing doesn't play sounds`
`01:42.45`	`ckknight`	`just minimizing`
`01:42.57`	`Kebinusan`	`it switches the game from windowed to fullscreen based on certain events`
`01:43.02`	`Kebinusan`	`so just go windowed and minimize`
`01:43.11`	`Thrae`	`Thought BGSwitch doesn't work anymore?`
`01:43.12`	`Kebinusan`	`then when your bq queue pops, it switches the game back to full screen`
`01:43.22`	`Kebinusan`	`hmm still worked for me`
`01:43.37`	`Thrae`	`And in a Windows application, ALT+TAB should be the same as Minimize if you aren't using Windowed mode`
`01:43.50`	`Kyahx`	`=(`
`01:43.57`	`Kyahx`	`I play windowed-maximized`
`01:44.01`	`Thrae`	`In Windowed mode, it can be the same if they test focus`
`01:44.55`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, nope, no sounds when alt-tabbed`
`01:45.11`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: Windowed or Full-Screen?`
`01:45.22`	`ckknight`	`both`
`01:45.33`	`ckknight`	`I got sounds when minimized windowed, though`
`01:46.11`	`Thrae`	`That's bizzare. Lemme check something.`
`01:46.27`	`ckknight`	`what was Mikk's throttle library called?`
`01:47.02`	`Thrae`	`ChatThrottleLib I think, it's on the Ace2 Library list`
`01:47.51`	`ckknight`	`yep`
`01:48.32`	ag`_	`ckknight, I've been working for quite some hours to nail down that bug, but I need to go soon, so I made a bugsubmission on pastebin until later where I can add it to flyspray. http://ace.pastebin.ca/104613`
`01:48.47`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`01:49.38`	`haste`	`does his libary still control other addons0`
`01:49.44`	`haste`	`s/0/?/`
`01:50.21`	`Mikma`	`SVN up yet? :)`
`01:51.01`	`haste`	`Yes`
`01:52.15`	`Mikma`	`haste: oh dear got that wow-screenie you pasted is horrible`
`01:52.30`	`Kyahx`	`ha! Found it`
`01:52.39`	`*** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net)`
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`01:53.07`	`Tem`	`clad, you better have restarted`
`01:53.11`	ag`_	`nno Mikma, what are you talking about`
`01:53.11`	`Tem`	`I gave you extra time`
`01:53.12`	ag`_	`I love it`
`01:53.33`	*** join/#wowace ag` (n=andreasg@0x535cbbaa.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
`01:53.51`	`Mikma`	ag`: <0438> <haste> http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/905/suiqv8.jpg
`01:54.05`	ag`_	`yes I know, I said I love it!`
`01:54.17`	`Kyahx`	`lol`
`01:54.34`	`Mikma`	`you almost left me speechless`
`01:54.46`	ag`	`It's mine of course`
`01:55.35`	`Tem`	`ASDFA !`
`01:55.41`	`Tem`	`that UI makes my brain hurt`
`01:55.49`	`Mikma`	`amen.`
`01:55.55`	`Tem`	`for starters fix your res`
`01:56.02`	`Tem`	`you're squished`
`01:56.07`	`Tem`	`and that looks terrible`
`01:56.48`	`Kyahx`	ag`: that can't be yours, the unit frames are default :P
`01:56.50`	`Tem`	`what's that raid status though?`
`01:56.59`	ag`	`what are you talking about, that UI rocks. It's one step away from the idiot 3d rpg and a step closer to the old MUDs, where everything is text (and now a bit interface) based`
`01:57.04`	`Tem`	`looks like someone took ideas from XRS`
`01:57.51`	`Tem`	`oh LOL`
`01:57.56`	`Tem`	`I think that's someone on my server`
`01:57.58`	`Thrae`	`Grrr. If GameTooltip has a "PvP" line, the FontString height for that line is 12. Otherwise it's the default of 1. If I set the height back, it screws up the positioning, even if I do a SetPoint afterwards.`
`01:58.09`	`Mikma`	`Tem: go and tell him his ui sucks`
`01:58.45`	`Kyahx`	`and if hes opposite faction, have a priest MC him and tell him his UI sucks, then camp him for hours`
`01:58.51`	`Kyahx`	`>:(`
`01:59.03`	`Tem`	`lol`
`01:59.14`	`Tem`	`can you talk to people while they are MC'ed?`
`01:59.21`	`Mikma`	`nay`
`01:59.24`	`Tem`	`awww`
`01:59.27`	`Mikma`	`that WOULD rock of course`
`01:59.31`	`Thrae`	`I heard they can read your emotes while MC'd`
`01:59.32`	`Tem`	`because that would rock`
`01:59.54`	`Tem`	`seriously, that's what I'd do the next time we met our nemesis in AB`
`01:59.55`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yes`
`02:00.00`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that is true`
`02:00.06`	`Tem`	`we'd five cap their asses and MC their leader`
`02:00.10`	`Thrae`	`Custom emotes I mean, /e`
`02:00.12`	`Tem`	`and send them hate tells`
`02:00.20`	`hyperChipmunk`	`at least it was true in 1.10`
`02:00.31`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Thrae: yes`
`02:00.47`	`Tem`	`cladhaire, poke`
`02:03.26`	`Tem`	`ooh!`
`02:03.29`	`Tem`	`A tack`
`02:04.02`	`kergoth`	`my generatereadme.py is getting a bit more crazy`
`02:05.17`	`Tem`	`cladhaire, ping`
`02:05.29`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: WHAT`
`02:05.29`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`02:05.35`	`Tem`	`teehee`
`02:05.52`	`Tem`	`ok, so`
`02:05.56`	`Tem`	`did you restart yet?`
`02:06.03`	`Tem`	`I was gone like an hour`
`02:06.09`	`Tem`	`plenty of time to restart`
`02:06.50`	`Tem`	`(seriously, I need you to restart so I can ensure that that's your problem and not a real bug that I need to fix)`
`02:06.51`	`cladhaire`	`no`
`02:06.52`	`cladhaire`	`i'm playing`
`02:06.59`	`cladhaire`	`dude i haven't plkayed wow in like 4 months`
`02:07.30`	`Mikma`	`seems like someone is enjoying WoW again`
`02:07.31`	`Tem`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:08.11`	`cladhaire`	`tem: i will in a second`
`02:08.16`	`Tem`	`yay!`
`02:08.17`	`cladhaire`	`tem: well.. a few minutes.`
`02:08.30`	`Tem`	`sniffle sure! put me off more!`
`02:09.31`	`cladhaire`	`i need my ZG gear =(`
`02:09.38`	`cladhaire`	`all i'm wearing is the rank 9 gear`
`02:09.52`	`Tem`	`which is better than the ZG gear?`
`02:09.58`	`cladhaire`	`nope;`
`02:09.59`	`Mikma`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2485`
`02:10.01`	`Tem`	`(at least for me it is)`
`02:10.11`	`cladhaire`	`the zg bracers are da bomb`
`02:10.29`	`cladhaire`	`for meh`
`02:10.51`	`Tem`	`hmm, good point, I wore the ZG shoulders and bracers combo until I got NW for both slots`
`02:11.06`	`cladhaire`	`not to mention pvp doesnt have bracers imo`
`02:12.01`	`Tek`	`I FUCKING WIN!`
`02:12.07`	`cladhaire`	`?`
`02:12.18`	`Tek`	`found the corkfu "enemy needs buff" bug cause`
`02:12.20`	`Tek`	`it's MOUSEOVER!`
`02:12.29`	`Tek`	`need to filter those out :)`
`02:12.35`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6070 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - fixed the line 506 error with the unnamed points`
`02:12.36`	`ckknight`	ag`, fixed
`02:13.25`	`ckknight`	`and now to work on AceComm ;-)`
`02:13.40`	`ckknight`	`I'm gonna need volunteers later to help test, btw`
`02:14.09`	`cladhaire`	`tem: i reloaded.`
`02:14.13`	`cladhaire`	`i hope i dont get kicked.`
`02:14.15`	`Mikma`	`i could but not with US :(`
`02:14.43`	`CIA-11`	`03thrae * r6071 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - Added tiny hack to fix that one tiny, weeny, 1 pixel offset when mousing over PvP-Enabled characters.`
`02:14.46`	`Tem`	`cladhaire, you can't just ui reload`
`02:14.48`	ag`	`ckknight: thanks a lot. It was a pretty rare bug though, it seemed only to happen if you called open from a slash command and had a menu with 3-4 levels`
`02:14.48`	`Tem`	`it's a new file`
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`02:14.51`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ`
`02:14.53`	`Tem`	`you have to restart completely`
`02:14.54`	`cladhaire`	`yes`
`02:14.55`	`cladhaire`	`i know`
`02:14.57`	`Tem`	`oh`
`02:14.59`	`ckknight`	`hey kaelten`
`02:15.00`	`CIA-11`	`03thrae * r6072 10TinyTipExtras/TinyTipExtras.lua: TinyTipExtras - Updated for change in TinyTip.`
`02:15.07`	ag`	`Mikma: I want an EU raid so I can test raidy stuff`
`02:15.11`	`ckknight`	`I need another project for flyspray: "Libraries"`
`02:15.25`	`Mikma`	ag`: which server and what name, i'll make a character
`02:15.34`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: thats very sexy`
`02:15.35`	`cladhaire`	`very`
`02:15.36`	`cladhaire`	`very sexy`
`02:15.45`	`CIA-11`	`03thrae * r6073 10TinyTipExtras/TinyTipExtras.lua: TinyTipExtras - Forgot to remove one piece of code.`
`02:15.49`	`Tem`	`phew`
`02:15.53`	ag`	`I usually play on Ravencrest Mikma, however, I don't need testing now :-)`
`02:15.55`	`cladhaire`	`like a lot.`
`02:15.57`	`cladhaire`	`commit it.`
`02:16.04`	`cladhaire`	`after you add a tooltip option`
`02:16.12`	`Tem`	`I'm adding the option now while I was waiting on you`
`02:16.23`	`Tem`	`I still don't understand why you didn't do that 2 hours ago`
`02:16.23`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`02:16.25`	`Mikma`	ag`: alliance or horde
`02:16.30`	ag`	`alliance`
`02:16.46`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: Because =)`
`02:16.50`	`cladhaire`	`we just were taking a break`
`02:16.52`	`Mikma`	`Tem: what did you do?`
`02:16.53`	`Tem`	`eyeroll`
`02:16.54`	ag`	`anyway Mikma if you check out agUF now the bug should be fixed, ckknight just took care of it`
`02:17.03`	`Tem`	`cladhaire, gimme a SS from your raid`
`02:17.09`	`Tem`	`(preferably in combat)`
`02:17.10`	`Mikma`	ag`: aye :)
`02:18.12`	`Mikma`	`Tem: heyyy, share with us, what's clad testing? :P`
`02:18.18`	`ckknight`	`Tek, found a bug in Teknicolor`
`02:18.31`	`Tem`	`Mikma, I made PRaid's mouseover graphic not suck`
`02:19.33`	`cladhaire`	`http://imagelink.org/temp/282`
`02:20.26`	`ckknight`	`at the end, under WHO_LIST_UPDATE, register(UnitName("target"), class) should be register(name, class)`
`02:20.57`	ag`	`Tem: can I see a ss?`
`02:20.59`	`Mikma`	`Tem: didn't you make them suck like 1 day ago`
`02:21.18`	`Kyahx`	`Tem: meh, I like mine better :P`
`02:21.20`	`Tem`	`Mikma, I added borders yesterday`
`02:21.21`	`cladhaire`	`ag: look at the link i just posted`
`02:21.25`	`Kyahx`	`since its the same style squishy uses`
`02:21.25`	`Mikma`	`oh crap`
`02:21.35`	`Mikma`	`"didn't you make the NOT to suck"`
`02:21.40`	`Mikma`	`sorry about that :)`
`02:21.46`	ag`	`cladhaire: it's the black thing?`
`02:21.49`	`cladhaire`	`Kyahx: screenshot?`
`02:21.50`	`cladhaire`	ag`: yes
`02:21.52`	`Mikma`	`Tem: well, someone did make a mouseover texture for it yesterday`
`02:21.57`	`Kyahx`	`cladhaire: most recent SVN :P`
`02:21.57`	ag`	`ok`
`02:22.00`	`cladhaire`	`not to mention the border on the healthbars.`
`02:22.05`	`Tem`	`cladhaire has his PRaid on "ugly mode"`
`02:22.06`	`Kyahx`	`its the same as the one you added, but not 'fade to black'`
`02:22.06`	`cladhaire`	`Kyahx: I can't use it.. i'm using tems.`
`02:22.15`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: Whats ugly mode? bitch?`
`02:22.20`	`cladhaire`	`Kyahx: No.. not in the least`
`02:22.23`	`cladhaire`	`its an entirely new texture.`
`02:22.27`	`Tem`	`backdrop bars 0 0 0 1`
`02:22.31`	`Kyahx`	`here, I'll show you what mine is`
`02:22.34`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: I happen to like that.`
`02:22.45`	`Tem`	`shudder`
`02:22.52`	`Tem`	`also, the > crap`
`02:22.55`	`Tem`	`also`
`02:23.12`	`cladhaire`	`um.. fuck off`
`02:23.18`	`Mikma`	`lol`
`02:23.29`	`cladhaire`	`i need to know who's in my group`
`02:23.30`	`Tem`	`If you pull the raid onto the screen a little more you can see the other side of the mouseover thing`
`02:23.31`	ag`	`Tem: show me yours :P`
`02:23.35`	`Tem`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:23.42`	`Tem`	gimme a few minutes, ag`
`02:23.47`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: I SEE the other side of the mouseover thing`
`02:23.49`	`cladhaire`	`wtf are you talkin gabout`
`02:24.01`	`Tem`	`there's a curve on both sides`
`02:24.04`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: Yes`
`02:24.05`	`cladhaire`	`i see it`
`02:24.10`	`cladhaire`	`screenshots aren't all inclusive.`
`02:24.11`	`cladhaire`	`i hate you`
`02:24.13`	`Tem`	`oh, I just can't see it in the SS`
`02:24.16`	`Tem`	`lol clad`
`02:24.33`	`cladhaire`	`SS or it didn't happen`
`02:24.36`	`cladhaire`	`Tem, Kyahx`
`02:24.38`	`cladhaire`	`that means you`
`02:25.00`	`Tem`	`I dunno why clad, but that background looks way better when I see it in action`
`02:25.07`	`cladhaire`	`it will`
`02:25.07`	ag`	`cladhaire: I like the background you have at the bottom, it looks coolish`
`02:25.08`	`cladhaire`	`and it look sfine.`
`02:25.13`	`cladhaire`	ag`: Thanks, its not mine =)
`02:25.39`	`Mikma`	`hmmh`
`02:25.45`	`Mikma`	`screenshot?`
`02:25.53`	`Mikma`	`oh there`
`02:25.58`	ag`	`anyway I play with everything transparent... background behind chats, fubar background`
`02:26.08`	`Kyahx`	`cladhaire: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6255/potsui072806yr6.jpg`
`02:26.15`	`Kyahx`	`thats what the current SVN revision looks like`
`02:26.27`	`cladhaire`	`Kyahx: I dont like it =(`
`02:26.35`	`cladhaire`	`but i wish Tem's version had somethign on the edges`
`02:26.41`	`Tem`	`it does!`
`02:26.41`	`cladhaire`	`its impossible to see when you're in dark terrain`
`02:26.47`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: No.. something NOT black.`
`02:26.49`	`Tem`	`oh`
`02:26.58`	`cladhaire`	`a.. sparkle.. or something`
`02:26.58`	`cladhaire`	`im`
`02:27.00`	`cladhaire`	`o`
`02:27.13`	`cladhaire`	`thats my only complaint`
`02:27.23`	`Tem`	`well there wasn't anything on the proof of concept =P`
`02:27.25`	`Kyahx`	`cladhaire: its the same thing you added, just trasnsparent :P`
`02:27.30`	`Tem`	`you know I have zero artistic skills`
`02:27.30`	`cladhaire`	`but no offense Kyahx, I don't like the texture that's using there..`
`02:27.34`	`cladhaire`	`Kyahx: I know.. thats why I dont like it =)`
`02:27.38`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: Make someone make a texture then`
`02:27.43`	`Tem`	`hmm`
`02:27.47`	`cladhaire`	`Kyahx: I only added it as a hack to shut Mikma up =)`
`02:27.53`	`cladhaire`	`and tuplad`
`02:27.55`	`Kyahx`	`eh, its the same thing that aguf and squishy both use, I like consistincy :P`
`02:27.59`	`Mikma`	`wohoo!`
`02:28.00`	`cladhaire`	`i dont =)`
`02:28.07`	`cladhaire`	`its.. ugly`
`02:28.10`	`cladhaire`	`forget consistency`
`02:28.15`	`cladhaire`	`its the quest overlay ffs =)`
`02:28.26`	`Kyahx`	`shrug`
`02:28.32`	ag`	`the quest overlay rocks for highlights`
`02:28.34`	`Mikma`	`i like the present version, the completely yellow mouseover`
`02:28.42`	`cladhaire`	ag`: If you want something "default"
`02:28.47`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: i dont =)`
`02:28.56`	`cladhaire`	`we'll see`
`02:29.01`	`cladhaire`	`if tem can get sparkles he wins =)`
`02:29.08`	`cladhaire`	`even just a solid border around the black`
`02:29.09`	ag`	`sparkles?`
`02:29.10`	`Tem`	`sparkles would be ugly`
`02:29.13`	`cladhaire`	`not sparkles`
`02:29.15`	`cladhaire`	`just.. a border`
`02:29.19`	`cladhaire`	`it needs more than lack`
`02:29.27`	`Tem`	`unless they were animated`
`02:29.34`	`cladhaire`	`haha that would be hot`
`02:29.40`	`cladhaire`	`no`
`02:29.42`	`cladhaire`	`just make a border =)`
`02:29.50`	`Tem`	`I can't`
`02:30.00`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: you're a noob if you don't like it :D`
`02:30.02`	`Tem`	`it took me like an hour to make that stupid rounded box`
`02:30.06`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: You're a noob if you like it.`
`02:30.12`	`Tem`	`Mikma, I second clad`
`02:30.16`	`Kyahx`	`psh`
`02:30.21`	`cladhaire`	`well i do NOT like the quest overlay`
`02:30.26`	`cladhaire`	`imho it looks amateurish`
`02:30.28`	`cladhaire`	`~saien`
`02:30.31`	`purl`	`I could have helped you, but I won't.`
`02:30.36`	`Tem`	`cheer`
`02:30.52`	`cladhaire`	`but seriously`
`02:30.56`	ag`	`who's saien? sounds like sairen`
`02:31.00`	`cladhaire`	`it looks like its being used, because you didn't have a better texture`
`02:31.15`	`Mikma`	`you're all noobs if you don't like it :D`
`02:31.40`	`Tem`	`cladhaire, why don't we ask the original artist?`
`02:31.48`	`cladhaire`	`I dont know who it is.`
`02:31.52`	`Tem`	`I do`
`02:31.53`	`cladhaire`	`i can probably get in touch with them tho`
`02:31.56`	`cladhaire`	`then ask`
`02:31.56`	`Tem`	`it's on the POC`
`02:32.01`	`cladhaire`	`ask for texture`
`02:32.17`	`Mikma`	`wtf is that green tabard with skull on it?`
`02:32.40`	`Tem`	`me logs onto hijal`
`02:32.46`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: where?`
`02:32.59`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: i found a orc rogue which has one (corpse)`
`02:33.04`	`Tem`	`shutup`
`02:33.06`	`Tem`	`I can't spell`
`02:33.08`	`Tem`	`deal with it`
`02:33.19`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: probably the horde rank 2 pvp tabard?`
`02:33.19`	`cladhaire`	`dunno`
`02:33.47`	`Tem`	`Mikma, is it perhaps a GUILD tabbard?`
`02:34.00`	`Tem`	`you know, the one you can CUSTOMIZE TO HAVE ANY ICON AND COLOR`
`02:34.04`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`02:34.21`	`Mikma`	`Tem: i can take a screenshot of it, this is not a normal tabard`
`02:34.47`	`Tem`	`ah`
`02:35.29`	ag`	`this is derailed`
`02:35.54`	`cladhaire`	`?`
`02:36.00`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: Are you dont yet.`
`02:36.01`	`cladhaire`	`JESUS`
`02:36.05`	`Mikma`	`http://wow.reaktio.net/tabard.jpg`
`02:36.24`	`cladhaire`	`no idea`
`02:36.36`	`Kyahx`	`isn't that the PvP contest reward tabard?`
`02:36.38`	`Kyahx`	`from a long time ago?`
`02:36.42`	`cladhaire`	`dunno`
`02:36.45`	`steino`	`Its wsg isnt it?`
`02:36.57`	`Mikma`	`i think it's the tabard with WoW logo on it`
`02:36.57`	`Kyahx`	`could be`
`02:37.13`	`Kyahx`	`yea, its probley either the AB or WSG tabard`
`02:37.34`	`cladhaire`	`i'd say ab.. since its all death`
`02:37.49`	`Mikma`	`anyways, rather cool retard..`
`02:39.01`	`Tek`	`I WIN!`
`02:39.05`	`CIA-11`	`03tekkub * r6074 10FuBar_CorkFu/ (BuffTemplate.lua DebuffTemplate.lua):`
`02:39.05`	`CIA-11`	`FuBar_CorkFu`
`02:39.05`	`CIA-11`	`- Buff and Debuff templates should now ignore the "mouseover" unit. This _shuold_ fix the issues where Cork was thinking a target mob needed a buff`
`02:39.07`	`Tek`	`dancedancedancedancedancedancedancedancedancedancedancedancedance`
`02:39.17`	`Tek`	`and I can't type...`
`02:39.34`	`Kyahx`	`dnace!`
`02:42.28`	`Mikma`	`is't a praty in hree adn eevrynoe is ivnitde`
`02:42.41`	`cladhaire`	`ooh`
`02:42.42`	`cladhaire`	`wine`
`02:42.44`	`cladhaire`	`that's a good diea`
`02:44.04`	`Tek`	`milks the last cup out of his box of wine`
`02:44.22`	`Tem`	`Mikma, yeah if I had to guess, I'd say that's the AB reward tabard`
`02:44.40`	`cladhaire`	`Tek: I was gonna go grab a box of white sangria`
`02:44.47`	`cladhaire`	`but i have a bottle of sutter's still =)`
`02:45.15`	`Tem`	`ew`
`02:45.17`	`Tek`	`only one source of wine in my ouse ATM`
`02:45.19`	`Tem`	`white wine is the suck`
`02:45.36`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: you'd get along with my boyfriend`
`02:45.37`	`Mikma`	`Baileys`
`02:45.39`	`cladhaire`	`i cna't stand red wine.`
`02:45.41`	`haste`	`http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8044267431246992656`
`02:45.45`	`haste`	`I'm her.. daddy`
`02:45.58`	`Mikma`	`haste: gz`
`02:46.03`	`Tem`	`red wine is the win`
`02:46.13`	`haste`	`Mikma: meep?`
`02:46.22`	`Tek`	`I tend toward White Zin myself`
`02:46.32`	`Tek`	`unless me dad has been making wine :)`
`02:46.48`	`Tek`	`<-- grew up on Chokecherry and Rhubharb wine`
`02:47.08`	`Mikma`	`haste: fine girl you got there ;)`
`02:47.10`	`cladhaire`	`mm.. sounds delicious`
`02:47.15`	`cladhaire`	`Tek: You should get me a bottle =)`
`02:47.31`	`Tek`	`I think he drank up all he had before he moved`
`02:47.35`	`Tem`	`gross`
`02:47.41`	`Tem`	`pink, white < red`
`02:47.41`	`Tek`	`and he has no source of either in NM`
`02:48.01`	`Tek`	`Tem: Yellow!`
`02:48.12`	`Tek`	`srsly, Rhubhard == yellow wine`
`02:48.20`	`Tem`	`I dun care`
`02:48.27`	`Tem`	`a good dry red is all you need`
`02:48.36`	`Tem`	`mmmm Bordeau`
`02:48.43`	`Tem`	`x`
`02:49.36`	`Tek`	`you know... we have this "Bordeaux Cherry Ameretto" ice cream at work... and for some reason I keep confusing Bordeaux and Brothel`
`02:49.49`	`Tek`	`I keep thinking: "Whore ice cream!"`
`02:50.19`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`02:50.21`	`cladhaire`	`wow`
`02:50.39`	`Tek`	`you no want whore flavored ice cream?`
`02:50.45`	*** join/#wowace ag`_ (n=andreasg@0x535cbbaa.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
`02:50.50`	`cladhaire`	`are you feeding it to me?`
`02:51.01`	`Tek`	`glare`
`02:51.07`	`Tek`	`you can lick it off`
`02:51.13`	`cladhaire`	`moan`
`02:51.35`	`Tek`	`I swear one of our manager's hubby has the food fetish`
`02:51.51`	`Tek`	`she says he keeps finding fudge and caramel in .... places...`
`02:52.04`	`cladhaire`	`eew`
`02:52.08`	`Tek`	`yea`
`02:52.39`	`Tek`	`you should see that back of my arm after I've worked the icecream side for a day.... it's "eew"`
`02:52.51`	`cladhaire`	`i've done that shit`
`02:52.53`	`cladhaire`	`ben and jerry`
`02:52.54`	`Tek`	`you could lick my arm and get a sample of every flavor we have, all at once`
`02:52.56`	`cladhaire`	`+ mcdonalds`
`02:52.57`	`cladhaire`	`together`
`02:53.37`	`Mikma`	`oh god, why i'm still here`
`02:53.48`	`Tek`	`uh`
`02:53.51`	`Tek`	`tacos?`
`02:53.53`	`cladhaire`	`i don't know why i am still here are you?`
`02:54.03`	`Mikma`	`neither do i, good night`
`02:54.14`	`Mikma`	`it's 05:54 already..`
`02:54.17`	`Tek`	`and don't come back!`
`02:54.24`	`Mikma`	`Tek: don't worry, i will :)`
`02:54.32`	`Tek`	`BLAST!`
`02:54.36`	`Tek`	`wait...`
`02:54.36`	`Mikma`	`i'll come over and over and over`
`02:54.49`	`Tek`	`<Stewie> BLAST! </stewie>`
`02:55.40`	`Mikma`	`btw all of you should watch a movie "Grandma's Boy (Unrated)"`
`02:55.53`	`Tek`	`suspicious`
`02:56.02`	`Mikma`	`so was i until i watched it`
`02:56.07`	`cladhaire`	`should i drink more wine?`
`02:56.11`	`Mikma`	`haven't seen such a good comedy for a long time`
`02:56.25`	`Tek`	`link me up a torrent then`
`02:56.48`	`Mikma`	`http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0456554/`
`02:57.08`	`cladhaire`	`just watch porn`
`02:57.32`	`cladhaire`	`zomg my drood has epix`
`02:57.42`	`Mikma`	`Tek: http://thepiratebay.org/search.php?q=grandma%27s+boy`
`02:58.15`	`cladhaire`	`umm.`
`02:58.15`	`cladhaire`	`wow`
`02:59.20`	`Mikma`	`ok, gn again`
`02:59.24`	`cladhaire`	`night`
`03:03.10`	`cladhaire`	`mmm wine`
`03:03.14`	`cladhaire`	`too bad i work for a beer company`
`03:03.48`	`cladhaire`	`anything fun?`
`03:04.50`	`Industrial`	`YOU WORK FOR A BEER COMPANY?!?!?!`
`03:04.55`	`Industrial`	`sdfusdgjnsdl;jfghp ksnpoawieh vnpoqw84urt09cn t0jqyct`
`03:04.59`	`Industrial`	`twitch`
`03:05.43`	`kergoth`	`cladhaire: not realy, at the moment just writing a python script to release my addon set in modular chunks, based on an X-KergWOW-Group field in the .toc files, with readme's that include a slash command refeernce based on another .toc field i added with crazy sed scripts`
`03:05.48`	`cladhaire`	`well you wouldn't call it beer`
`03:05.50`	`cladhaire`	`more like rats piss`
`03:06.00`	`Industrial`	`ow too bad then`
`03:06.02`	ag`_	`~saien`
`03:06.03`	`purl`	`Your question is not very descriptive, helpful, or useful in any manner.`
`03:06.16`	`Industrial`	`LOL`
`03:06.27`	`Industrial`	`hah, ok, hah i get it`
`03:06.27`	`cladhaire`	`~saien`
`03:06.29`	`purl`	`Slash commands are ameturish.`
`03:06.31`	`cladhaire`	`kergoth: nice,.`
`03:06.46`	`kergoth`	`trying to figure out how best to group like 200 addons is not fun :P`
`03:07.15`	ag`_	`ameturish... Yeah, having 30 icons around the minimap rocks!!1112oneelevenoene`
`03:07.20`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`03:07.27`	ag`_	`~saien`
`03:07.29`	`purl`	`Your question is not very descriptive, helpful, or useful in any manner.`
`03:07.32`	`kergoth`	`i loveses deucecommander`
`03:07.33`	ag`_	`meh`
`03:07.38`	ag`_	`~saien`
`03:07.39`	`purl`	`You are of course, wrong, and I invite you to prove it to yourself.`
`03:07.45`	ag`_	`hahaha`
`03:07.59`	`Industrial`	`lol`
`03:08.05`	ag`_	`This guy is comedy gold`
`03:08.11`	ag`_	`~saien`
`03:08.12`	`purl`	`This is a stunningly stupid question to direct at me.`
`03:08.29`	`XLVII`	ag`_, do you have a list of slash commands used for ag
`03:08.42`	`XLVII`	`s/ag/ag_uf, possibly?/`
`03:08.56`	`XLVII`	`that screwed it up.`
`03:09.09`	`XLVII`	ag`_, do you have a list of the slash commands that ag_uf uses, possibly?
`03:09.17`	ag`_	`for slash commands there's /aguf and /ag_unitframes`
`03:09.26`	`XLVII`	`oo! easy`
`03:09.26`	`XLVII`	`thanks.`
`03:09.50`	ag`_	`I would think that ace would tell you that?`
`03:09.55`	ag`_	`if you did /ace list`
`03:10.21`	`ckknight`	`yep, it should`
`03:11.09`	`XLVII`	`ace does it too? ;o`
`03:11.17`	`Industrial`	`with the coming of ace2 should it have /ace list ?`
`03:11.18`	`XLVII`	`then i don't need that SlashCommander addon!`
`03:11.24`	`ckknight`	`it does, Industrial`
`03:11.26`	`kergoth`	`Industrial: ace2 isnt coming, its here`
`03:11.28`	`ckknight`	`well, if Ace isn't loaded`
`03:11.31`	`ckknight`	`it's in /ace2`
`03:11.37`	`Industrial`	`kergoth, thats what I said`
`03:11.42`	`Industrial`	`well..`
`03:11.50`	`kergoth`	`the tense was ambiguous :)`
`03:11.56`	`Industrial`	`:-)`
`03:12.10`	`Industrial`	`ckknight, but is that really ace's job?`
`03:12.12`	`cladhaire`	`kergoth: how'd the new job?`
`03:12.18`	`Industrial`	`id say split it :P`
`03:12.32`	`ckknight`	`Industrial, does it matter?`
`03:12.36`	`ckknight`	`it just lists info`
`03:12.38`	ag`_	`sleepy-nap time, say goodbye everyone!`
`03:12.45`	`kergoth`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:12.55`	`cladhaire`	`whatcha working on specifically?`
`03:13.01`	`kergoth`	`openembedded.org`
`03:13.05`	`kergoth`	`the project i started`
`03:13.08`	`kergoth`	`they're paying me to improve it`
`03:13.15`	`kergoth`	`cant go wrong there..`
`03:13.21`	`kergoth`	`woot, my script finally does what i wanted`
`03:13.22`	`kergoth`	`http://kergoth.com/wow/`
`03:13.25`	`cladhaire`	`oh nice`
`03:13.25`	`kergoth`	`check that out`
`03:13.28`	`kergoth`	`look at one of the readme's`
`03:14.10`	`cladhaire`	`i see em`
`03:14.10`	`cladhaire`	`nice.`
`03:14.13`	`kergoth`	`now just need to improve the categorization`
`03:14.21`	`kergoth`	`and add more of the slash command metadata`
`03:15.49`	`Thrae`	`Can tostring(object) return nil if the object ~= nil?`
`03:16.42`	`Thrae`	`Because that's exactly what's happening in my addon.`
`03:18.17`	ag`_	`what is it tostring does?`
`03:18.29`	`kergoth`	`yes, if you have a string metamethod that returns nil rather than a string`
`03:18.32`	`kergoth`	ag`_: exactly what you'd expect
`03:18.39`	`Thrae`	`Attempts to convert the object to a string.`
`03:18.42`	`kergoth`	`> return tostring(setmetatable({}, {__tostring = function() return nil end}))`
`03:18.43`	`kergoth`	`nil`
`03:18.49`	`kergoth`	`> return tostring(setmetatable({}, {__tostring = function() return "foo" end}))`
`03:18.49`	`kergoth`	`foo`
`03:18.52`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`03:18.57`	`cladhaire`	`did you just type those`
`03:19.00`	`cladhaire`	`or did you have them handy`
`03:19.06`	`kergoth`	`typed em`
`03:19.14`	`Thrae`	`I'm working with FontStrings here, I don't know why they'd do that.`
`03:19.31`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`03:20.02`	`cladhaire`	`kergoth: So.. using mingw32 to compile lua for win32, using -no-frame-pointers causes a GPF at some point in the wowbench code.`
`03:20.09`	`cladhaire`	`and its in the makefile`
`03:20.11`	ag`_	`but how do you convert an object to a string`
`03:20.11`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`03:20.26`	`cladhaire`	ag`_: tostring(object) already returns the memory location, etc
`03:20.29`	`ckknight`	`> return tostring(setmetatable({}, {__tostring = function() return nil end}))`
`03:20.32`	`cladhaire`	`do /dump tostring(PlayerFrame)`
`03:20.32`	`ckknight`	`table: 1234161`
`03:20.40`	`ckknight`	`wait`
`03:20.40`	`ckknight`	`nvm`
`03:20.43`	`ckknight`	`I'm an idiot`
`03:20.51`	`ckknight`	`you were right :-P`
`03:20.56`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`03:21.14`	`cladhaire`	`jesus pr is so sexy`
`03:21.15`	`cladhaire`	`tem rocks`
`03:21.27`	`kergoth`	`cladhaire: ouch, i dunno, mingw32 is voodoo to me, need to mess with it more`
`03:21.30`	`kergoth`	`aye, sexy indeed`
`03:21.39`	`cladhaire`	`-O3 WORKS`
`03:21.54`	`cladhaire`	`but -O3 -fno-frame-pointers GPF's`
`03:22.04`	`cladhaire`	`but we got it fixed`
`03:22.14`	`cladhaire`	`so 5.0.3 ships with wowbenhch faster than luabinaries`
`03:22.54`	`cladhaire`	`should i finish thisbottle of wine`
`03:23.02`	`cladhaire`	`if i do i'll actually be drizzunk`
`03:23.03`	`kergoth`	`http://kergoth.com/images/wow_040.jpg`
`03:23.07`	`cladhaire`	`i'm just 65% at the moment`
`03:23.32`	`cladhaire`	`kergoth: You need the new PR that isn't on the svn yet =)`
`03:23.50`	`kergoth`	`i do? further sexiness?`
`03:23.54`	`cladhaire`	`oh yes`
`03:23.54`	`cladhaire`	`quite`
`03:24.03`	`kergoth`	`woot`
`03:24.07`	ag`_	`what is wowbench`
`03:24.21`	`kergoth`	ag`_: wow testing environment outside of wow. simulated apis, etc
`03:24.23`	ag`_	`and kergoth, you have quite a few addons, like too many perhaps`
`03:24.41`	`cladhaire`	`kergoth: http://imagelink.org/temp/282`
`03:24.45`	`kergoth`	`hehe, thats why i'm breaking it up more. i've gone through my set on numerous occasions, i cant find anything that i dont use on a daily basis`
`03:24.47`	`cladhaire`	`my irc just borked.`
`03:24.53`	ag`_	`Aha. can it show UI elements? :P`
`03:25.23`	`kergoth`	ag`_: heh, no, but you can choose when you want to fire onupdates and such
`03:25.29`	`kergoth`	`most nifty`
`03:25.52`	`kergoth`	`---[world.toc]`
`03:25.52`	`kergoth`	`Running <OnLoad>s and <Scripts>s...`
`03:25.52`	`kergoth`	`Your name is Zebrin.`
`03:25.52`	`kergoth`	`Alice has entered the world.`
`03:25.53`	`kergoth`	`Bob has entered the world.`
`03:25.55`	`cladhaire`	`kergoth: health bars have a black border now, and the highlight texture is.. imp.. shit.`
`03:26.23`	ag`_	`how does one add black borders to a statusbar`
`03:26.37`	`kergoth`	`cladhaire: uh, that shot i just pasted has border around the health.. thats what tem checked into svn..`
`03:27.21`	`Kyahx`	`kergoth: /praid borders #`
`03:27.44`	`Kyahx`	`er wait, you weren't asking how`
`03:28.05`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`03:28.17`	`Thrae`	`Hmm, I have new respect for GameTooltip. It seems in the game engine's version of ClearLines, it destroys all lines except the 1st one.`
`03:28.32`	`Thrae`	`And when I mean destroy, I mean it sets the actual object to nil.`
`03:28.46`	`cladhaire`	`tem checked it in?`
`03:28.49`	`cladhaire`	`i'm.. so.. nvm.`
`03:28.51`	`cladhaire`	`hi`
`03:28.52`	`cladhaire`	`i'm clad`
`03:28.54`	`cladhaire`	`how are you?`
`03:28.59`	`Kyahx`	`interesting`
`03:29.26`	`cladhaire`	`Kyahx: hrm?`
`03:29.28`	`Thrae`	`Which totally defeats the purpose of GameTooltipTemplate, as the game engine is handling it differently behind the schemes`
`03:29.30`	`cladhaire`	`i want.. chips.`
`03:29.35`	`Thrae`	`s/schemes/scenes/.`
`03:29.40`	`cladhaire`	`like fritos... or doritos.`
`03:30.01`	`kergoth`	`goddamnit fubar`
`03:30.11`	`kergoth`	`fucking plugins attaching themselves to my minimap again`
`03:30.15`	`kergoth`	`when i say disabled, i fucking mean disabled`
`03:30.36`	`Kyahx`	`The OneBag plugin isn't remembering that I dont want to see text :(`
`03:31.50`	`cladhaire`	`im dead`
`03:32.47`	ag`_	`~roulette`
`03:32.49`	`purl`	ACTION watches ag`_ pull the trigger: Click!
`03:32.49`	`kergoth`	`Kyahx: aye, its not just the oneview plugin apparently, looks like a fubarplugin bug`
`03:32.54`	`cladhaire`	`~tryme`
`03:32.56`	`purl`	`ACTION pokes cladhaire. Never`
`03:32.58`	`Galka`	`Getting this error when I do /who string (where string pops up the window due to multiple results)`
`03:33.00`	`Galka`	Core.lua:9: attempt to concatenate local `name' (a nil value)
`03:33.02`	`Galka`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:33.06`	ag`_	`~roulette`
`03:33.07`	`purl`	ACTION watches ag`_ pull the trigger: Click!
`03:33.09`	`Galka`	`Not really sure which of my Ace addons is doing it :/`
`03:33.18`	`Galka`	`Anyone else experiencing this?`
`03:33.21`	`Kyahx`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:33.25`	`Kyahx`	`you'll see what addon is causeing it`
`03:33.51`	`Galka`	`Ah, now thats a nice feature!`
`03:33.55`	`Galka`	`Its Teknicolor`
`03:33.57`	`Thrae`	`I like the naming scheme of AddonName_Core.lua instead of Core.lua.`
`03:34.03`	`Kyahx`	`Galka: update it :P`
`03:34.06`	`Galka`	`I have`
`03:34.09`	`Galka`	`1 minute ago`
`03:34.29`	`Galka`	`Doing so again for posterity`
`03:34.38`	`Galka`	`Yeah im at 6074 Revision`
`03:35.04`	`Kyahx`	`hmmm`
`03:35.22`	`kergoth`	`Thrae: pretty pointless imho. the directory already has the addon name. just unnecessary duplication. if the bug reporting system only shows the base filename, thats a weakness of that system, nothing more`
`03:35.51`	`Thrae`	`Galka: Delete the folder, checkout again, restart WoW.`
`03:36.10`	`Thrae`	`kergoth: It doesn't "save" anything to use a slightly longer filename.`
`03:36.31`	`Thrae`	`s/longer/smaller/`
`03:36.38`	`kergoth`	`again, its just pointless duplication. if you ever change the name, now you have 805 references to change for no good reason`
`03:37.15`	`cladhaire`	`.. another glass of wine?`
`03:37.16`	`cladhaire`	`i'm.`
`03:37.25`	`cladhaire`	`not raiding at 100% effectiveness`
`03:37.27`	`cladhaire`	`which means i should code`
`03:37.42`	`Galka`	`Friends dont let friends drink and heal`
`03:37.47`	`kergoth`	`coding while drinking is bad`
`03:38.02`	`pagefault`	`it's fun`
`03:38.22`	`kergoth`	`the next morning it's certainly amusing reading the code`
`03:38.32`	`pagefault`	`that is the fun`
`03:38.35`	`pagefault`	`haha`
`03:38.35`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`03:38.47`	`pagefault`	`you think you are writing the most amazing code`
`03:38.51`	`pagefault`	`then the next day you wonder why you did that`
`03:39.10`	`kergoth`	`i find its better to just open a text file and spout the ideas into that while drinking`
`03:39.16`	`kergoth`	`often some gems there, just not so much the implementations`
`03:39.28`	`Thrae`	`kergoth: Eh, it also makes it easier when you're dealing with globals. Then you can tell which file the global is in if you prefix the filename to your global functions. Of course you could use a global object, but that has the same problem if you ever change the name of the addon.`
`03:39.53`	`kergoth`	`well, i wouldnt be using a pile of global functions either, but to each his own`
`03:40.27`	`Thrae`	`When you're dealing with modules, you have to use some type of global...`
`03:40.48`	`cladhaire`	`.kergoth: coding while drinking is good`
`03:40.56`	`cladhaire`	`i've come up with some of my best ideas drunk =)`
`03:41.05`	`kergoth`	`Thrae: not really. the parent has all the references to the child objects.`
`03:41.20`	`cladhaire`	`i just dont' commit while drunk =)`
`03:41.23`	`cladhaire`	`that's dangerous =)`
`03:41.24`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`03:41.37`	`Thrae`	`kergoth: I'm not talking about frames, just functions.`
`03:42.11`	`kergoth`	`and? if you're using acemodulecore, you can iterate over your modules, you neednt keep global references to their objects`
`03:42.23`	`cladhaire`	`mm... modules.`
`03:42.24`	`Thrae`	`Ugh, I'm not going to use AceModuleCore.`
`03:42.28`	`cladhaire`	`why not?`
`03:42.35`	`cladhaire`	`its nifty.. somewhat`
`03:42.40`	`cladhaire`	`i dont like the "Default on" for all modules`
`03:42.46`	`ckknight`	`so turn it off.`
`03:42.46`	`kergoth`	`right then, have fun with all that name duplication`
`03:42.48`	`cladhaire`	`but that's resolved with like 10 lines of code`
`03:42.54`	`cladhaire`	`its very nifty`
`03:43.00`	`ckknight`	`hehe, yea`
`03:43.11`	`cladhaire`	`Clique make gratuitous use of it.`
`03:43.24`	`cladhaire`	`wow did i spell that right? gaim didn't highlight it.. but it highlighted its own name`
`03:44.27`	`Galka`	`You did`
`03:44.32`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`03:44.44`	`cladhaire`	`gaim aspell's "gaim"`
`03:44.44`	`cladhaire`	`odd`
`03:44.58`	`Thrae`	`How does AceModuleCore allow you to easily tell which file a function is located in?`
`03:45.09`	`Galka`	`Thrae, did what you suggested`
`03:45.12`	`Galka`	`Error still persists`
`03:45.41`	`kergoth`	`Thrae: it doesnt, but it makes your point about globals completely irrelevent.`
`03:45.46`	`Thrae`	`Galka: Find someone else with the addon and have THEM update.`
`03:46.11`	`kergoth`	`as i said, if the error reporting system cannot show the directory its in, its a weak reporting system. forcing the user to duplicate information is idiotic`
`03:47.12`	`ckknight`	`Tek, I have hacked up Teknicolor to the extreme now`
`03:47.22`	`ckknight`	`btw, you're right about not storing in a DB`
`03:47.24`	`ckknight`	`it's not necessary`
`03:47.24`	`kergoth`	`meh`
`03:47.29`	`cladhaire`	`the error scheme shows CLique as the culprit on man installations cause its loaded first =)`
`03:48.04`	`ckknight`	`I got it more memory/cpu efficient, captures more stuff, and properly changes emotes and such`
`03:49.32`	`cladhaire`	`tem: where are you?`
`03:49.35`	`Thrae`	`Well, I think it makes sense to have a "TinyTip" naming scheme for global functions inside the "TinyTip.lua" file. Inside the "TinyTipExtras.lua" file, the global functions are prefixed by TinyTipExtras_. It's the same as using a "TinyTip" or "TinyTipExtras" global table and putting your global functions in there.`
`03:49.51`	`cladhaire`	`but why NOT use modules`
`03:49.54`	`cladhaire`	`any particular reason?`
`03:49.54`	`kergoth`	`no, it isnt the same. you're just polluting the namespace`
`03:50.17`	`kergoth`	`tons of addons do that. people need to learn about namespacing. it got added to c++ for a reason`
`03:50.22`	`kergoth`	`:P`
`03:50.43`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`03:50.50`	`cladhaire`	`we're such retards sometimes.`
`03:50.53`	`cladhaire`	`but i lov eit.`
`03:50.58`	`ckknight`	`how so?`
`03:51.20`	`ckknight`	`frankly, I think global pollution should be explicit`
`03:51.25`	`cladhaire`	`i agree`
`03:51.30`	`ckknight`	`e.g. global alpha = 50`
`03:51.34`	`ckknight`	`or just _G.alpha = 50`
`03:51.36`	`ckknight`	`or whatever`
`03:51.39`	`kergoth`	`thats one nice thing about the lua 5.1 module system though`
`03:51.40`	`Thrae`	`C++ doesn't have the same namespacing issues as Lua.`
`03:51.43`	`cladhaire`	`jails with explicit overrides are good`
`03:51.46`	`cladhaire`	`modules in 5.1 are hot`
`03:51.50`	`ckknight`	`have a global keyword like the local keyword`
`03:51.51`	`cladhaire`	`kergoth: so true.`
`03:51.57`	`ckknight`	`I don't know about the module system`
`03:52.00`	`kergoth`	`Thrae: quite right, lua is worse.`
`03:52.01`	`ckknight`	`what is it?`
`03:52.02`	`cladhaire`	`Look into it`
`03:52.13`	`cladhaire`	`its sexay =)`
`03:52.34`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: when you call module("foo"), everything after that line in your file is automatically in that namespace`
`03:52.38`	`kergoth`	`it changes the current fenv`
`03:52.41`	`cladhaire`	`setfenv() magic`
`03:52.41`	`ckknight`	`ah`
`03:52.43`	`ckknight`	`cool.`
`03:53.03`	`ckknight`	`why can't we have that? :-(`
`03:53.06`	`kergoth`	`cant pollute globals unless its explicit. or better yet, return your module's table to the caller of require() and let them deicde if they want globals`
`03:53.06`	`Thrae`	`I came from mostly coding in C to Lua, so I was using my naming scheme from C.`
`03:53.12`	`cladhaire`	`we could manuallyu`
`03:53.57`	`kergoth`	`cladhaire, ckknight: i played with that.. it isnt hard, just call setfenv() with the appropriate stacklevel to manipulate the caller's env`
`03:54.04`	`ckknight`	`let's see, before Lua I was doing .NET stuff`
`03:54.04`	`kergoth`	`good fun`
`03:54.05`	`cladhaire`	`yeah`
`03:54.06`	`cladhaire`	`its not bad`
`03:54.14`	`cladhaire`	`you can easily manipulate using the same systej`
`03:54.14`	`ckknight`	`specifically Boo and C#`
`03:54.16`	`cladhaire`	`but we need 5.2`
`03:54.18`	`cladhaire`	`err 5.1`
`03:54.21`	`cladhaire`	`inc gc, etc.`
`03:54.44`	`kergoth`	`inc gc would be really nice`
`03:54.46`	`kergoth`	`much smoother`
`03:54.49`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`03:54.49`	`cladhaire`	`yep`
`03:54.56`	`ckknight`	`gc makes me die so often :-(`
`03:54.56`	`cladhaire`	`and modules woudl be cool for SOME addons`
`03:55.14`	`kergoth`	`i'd be happy with require(). we almost have that today, with acelibrary :)`
`03:55.20`	`cladhaire`	`aye`
`03:55.20`	`kergoth`	`down with globals!`
`03:55.28`	`kergoth`	`horray for upvalues`
`03:55.29`	`kergoth`	`!`
`03:55.30`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, yea, AceLibrary does help with global pollution for libraries`
`03:55.42`	`Thrae`	`I've already reached the upvalue limit for some of my files.`
`03:55.50`	`ckknight`	`it's 32`
`03:55.55`	`Thrae`	`I'm making well use of them.`
`03:56.01`	`Thrae`	`Yep, I'm well, well aware of that, ckknight.`
`03:56.14`	`Thrae`	`I get that error every few commits when I add more locals ;)`
`03:56.28`	`cladhaire`	`hm...upvalues.`
`03:56.38`	`cladhaire`	`kergoth: you know what i'm doing my phd in right?`
`03:56.57`	`kergoth`	`nope`
`03:57.01`	`Tain`	`Thrae y value offsets for TinyTip anchoring haven't been working for me.`
`03:57.11`	`cladhaire`	`college level pedagogy in computer science`
`03:57.13`	`kergoth`	`this soda tastes just like cherry pie`
`03:57.14`	`cladhaire`	`pushing the lua agenda =)`
`03:57.15`	`kergoth`	`sweet`
`03:57.18`	`kergoth`	`cladhaire: ah, cool`
`03:57.32`	`cladhaire`	`kergoth: LHF was useless`
`03:57.46`	`cladhaire`	`i'm hoping roberto is more receptive =)`
`03:57.54`	`cladhaire`	`i'm sad i can't go to lua workshop 2006`
`03:58.10`	`Thrae`	`Tain: I'll take a look at it.`
`03:58.17`	`ckknight`	`clad, I think Python's a good beginning language`
`03:58.24`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: I disagree =)`
`03:58.28`	`cladhaire`	`for a number of reasons`
`03:58.31`	`ckknight`	`I really don't think Lua's better to learn with`
`03:58.33`	`ckknight`	`hit me.`
`03:58.35`	`cladhaire`	`python starts as a really good language`
`03:58.39`	`cladhaire`	`but it explodes too quickly`
`03:58.48`	`ckknight`	`point.`
`03:58.50`	`cladhaire`	`either you have to do inverse curriciula, which teaches large projects inwards`
`03:59.02`	`cladhaire`	`or you have to WORK to stop the students from inflating their shit.`
`03:59.03`	`ckknight`	`what do you mean by that?`
`03:59.17`	`cladhaire`	`too many libraries available, that do too much`
`03:59.27`	`cladhaire`	`its just a challenge to code`
`03:59.32`	`ckknight`	`aren't libraries good?`
`03:59.34`	`cladhaire`	`i dont think its worse than lua by any means`
`03:59.40`	`cladhaire`	`they are.. depending on how you teach`
`03:59.54`	`Tain`	`I don't have a library card.`
`04:00.03`	`ckknight`	`me either`
`04:00.09`	`kergoth`	`i'd say for a user learning on their own, where they generally learn by trying to code something simple that they can actually use, python is the way to go, -because- of the large module base`
`04:00.20`	`cladhaire`	`the biggest challenge in college courses is providing what you need to to the intro students, whil egiving enough flexibility to the advanced studnets`
`04:00.24`	`cladhaire`	`which gives python the ++`
`04:00.26`	`cladhaire`	`BUT`
`04:00.36`	`cladhaire`	`ify ou spend time to develop a strong lua library`
`04:00.45`	`cladhaire`	`as a framwork for application development`
`04:00.48`	`cladhaire`	`it could be hot`
`04:00.57`	`cladhaire`	`that may end up being my pHD`
`04:00.59`	`cladhaire`	`who knosw.`
`04:01.00`	`ckknight`	`yes it could`
`04:01.03`	`cladhaire`	`i'm dont object to python`
`04:01.04`	`ckknight`	`that'd be cool`
`04:01.13`	`kergoth`	`yeah thatd be cool indeed`
`04:01.23`	`cladhaire`	`the biggest thing righ tnow9`
`04:01.31`	`cladhaire`	`9've read like 200 academic papers in the past two days)`
`04:01.49`	`cladhaire`	`is teaching programming concepts using large libraries.. so the students dont walkin REimplemting stuff the first project`
`04:02.00`	`cladhaire`	`because CS has a HUGE rate of failure.. moving to IT, etc.`
`04:02.05`	`cladhaire`	`so you have to keep the students intersted,.`
`04:02.20`	`cladhaire`	`if you make a solid qt library, nice structure`
`04:02.21`	`cladhaire`	`can be hot`
`04:02.53`	`ckknight`	`qt the toolkit?`
`04:02.53`	`cladhaire`	`enough to teach what you want to.. while keeping them interested.`
`04:02.54`	`Tain`	`Everything should be done in Logo.`
`04:03.05`	`cladhaire`	`Tain: Lego Mindstorms!`
`04:03.42`	`cladhaire`	`I have ideas`
`04:03.54`	`cladhaire`	`and its really a passion of mine`
`04:03.58`	`Tain`	`Do your pHD in Whitespace.`
`04:04.04`	`cladhaire`	`i hate the java first method.`
`04:04.07`	`cladhaire`	`it hides too much`
`04:04.32`	`cladhaire`	`and re-implementing the strings library in c loses all the novice students.`
`04:04.40`	`cladhaire`	`You hav e to have a good comprimise`
`04:04.49`	`cladhaire`	`ACM membership gave me lots to read`
`04:05.01`	`cladhaire`	`i'll be going into my research propossal pretty well prepared`
`04:05.05`	`Tain`	`I think it should be enough for me to say to someone, "I can do that." and they hire me.`
`04:05.07`	`kergoth`	`nice, i usually rely on google's academic search engine thingy`
`04:05.12`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`04:05.16`	`cladhaire`	`just sucks that i want/have to do it in the UK`
`04:05.47`	`cladhaire`	`the US PhD system suxors compared to the UK`
`04:05.54`	`cladhaire`	`i think kent is my #1 school`
`04:06.02`	`cladhaire`	`followed by Warwick and Cambridge`
`04:06.16`	`Tain`	`I wonder if the distillery that makes Captain Morgan is hiring quality control testers.`
`04:06.16`	`cladhaire`	`(because cambridge doesn't have a research group n CSE)`
`04:06.47`	`cladhaire`	`Tain: Drink whiskey? sign me up.`
`04:07.02`	`cladhaire`	`kergoth: Do you have any reccomendation for software development opportunities?`
`04:07.06`	`Tain`	`Not in the US, but if you find some good Scotch distilleries, I'm there.`
`04:07.12`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r6075 10Teknicolor/ (Core.lua Teknicolor.toc):`
`04:07.12`	`CIA-11`	`Teknicolor - bugfix, code cleanup. Now catches mouseovers and /who's that go to CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM.`
`04:07.12`	`CIA-11`	`also properly colors emotes now.`
`04:07.12`	`CIA-11`	`Speed/memory increases.`
`04:07.12`	`CIA-11`	`No longer uses the database.`
`04:07.17`	`cladhaire`	`its been my .. lack.. in my past few interviews.`
`04:07.26`	`cladhaire`	`i.e. know any projects that aren't wow related that could use work?`
`04:07.37`	`kergoth`	`i'm seeing my poison counts on my elkbuffbar both over the icon and in the text. can i just disable one of those?`
`04:07.43`	`kergoth`	`hmm`
`04:07.59`	`Tain`	`cladhaire my advice is to lie.`
`04:08.07`	`cladhaire`	`ive only done open source no-so-organized projects`
`04:08.09`	`cladhaire`	`Tain: True dat`
`04:10.05`	`Tain`	`After workign in the industry this long I'm convinced that lying is a perfectly valid tool.`
`04:10.14`	`cladhaire`	`everyoen does it`
`04:10.17`	`Tain`	`As long as you can actually do it.`
`04:10.21`	`cladhaire`	`thats how they get hired over me =)`
`04:10.30`	`cladhaire`	`"oh yeah.. i coded this C# app yesterday!"`
`04:10.34`	`cladhaire`	`i tell the truth and it fucks me`
`04:10.37`	`Tain`	`I mean I don't suggest someone say they can do something that they're not capable of.`
`04:10.41`	`cladhaire`	`but then again, i'm in syracuse new york`
`04:11.03`	`Tain`	`But if you can do it then claiming you've been doing it for twenty years at a senior level is fine with me.`
`04:11.03`	`cladhaire`	`Tain: that not lying to the employer.. thats lying to yourself =)`
`04:11.36`	`Tain`	`Fuck those motherfucks!`
`04:11.54`	`kergoth`	`i think teh only time i lied for a position was the first technical position i ever got, since i had _zero_ work experience, and _zero_ degree, only personal exp, and that was limited at hte time`
`04:12.13`	`Industrial`	`I have year now go internship`
`04:12.16`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`04:12.20`	`Industrial`	`A year*`
`04:12.26`	`cladhaire`	`i hate my boyriend`
`04:12.33`	`cladhaire`	`he has the perfect hob`
`04:12.36`	`cladhaire`	`s/ho/jo/`
`04:12.40`	`cladhaire`	`and i hate mine`
`04:13.04`	`Industrial`	`what do you do at the beer company then>?`
`04:13.08`	`Industrial`	`:E`
`04:13.24`	`cladhaire`	`umm`
`04:13.29`	`cladhaire`	`i'm a monkey`
`04:13.32`	`cladhaire`	`i can't make any decisins`
`04:13.34`	`cladhaire`	`i can't do anythign`
`04:13.39`	`cladhaire`	`i call someone and they tell me what to type`
`04:13.45`	`XLVII`	`i need a domain name`
`04:13.45`	`XLVII`	`;o`
`04:13.48`	`cladhaire`	`cause my masters in computer science means nothing =)`
`04:13.51`	`XLVII`	`well, to think of a name for one.`
`04:13.57`	`Tain`	`I'm still searching for the pefect job.`
`04:14.03`	`cladhaire`	`XLVII: notanumber.org`
`04:14.05`	`cladhaire`	`Tain: I had it`
`04:14.08`	`Tain`	`Kind of like the perfect mate, I believe it's a fictional thing.`
`04:14.09`	`cladhaire`	`fuckers fired me.`
`04:14.12`	`cladhaire`	`it was PEFECT`
`04:14.16`	`cladhaire`	`i alreayd have the perfect mate.`
`04:14.29`	`Tain`	`Someone lives in fantasy land!`
`04:14.40`	`ckknight`	`is it me?`
`04:14.49`	`Tain`	`I'm not sure, I know it's not me.`
`04:15.00`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: You're sexy, but no.`
`04:15.02`	`Tain`	`Because if this is my fantasy...`
`04:15.10`	`Tain`	`I'm in trouble.`
`04:15.26`	`cladhaire`	`i should not be drunk doing hakkar.. fo rserious`
`04:15.29`	`ckknight`	`clad sure is drunk`
`04:15.35`	`cladhaire`	`yeah`
`04:15.37`	`cladhaire`	`tell me about it`
`04:15.38`	`Industrial`	`is it me?`
`04:15.39`	`cladhaire`	`but why do you say that?`
`04:15.43`	`Industrial`	`badoom tisch`
`04:15.50`	`cladhaire`	`Industrial: You're hotness intoxicates me.`
`04:15.54`	`Industrial`	`\o/`
`04:16.04`	`cladhaire`	`i mean hi`
`04:16.05`	`cladhaire`	`i'm clad`
`04:16.07`	`Industrial`	`I think thats the booze though cladhaire`
`04:16.09`	`Tain`	`I've run a business, had an absurdly high paying job where I did NOTHING all day, and many mixes of things in between.`
`04:16.34`	`Tain`	`As Bono said, "And I still haven't found what I'm looking for."`
`04:16.35`	`Industrial`	`I bet being a security guard owns`
`04:16.41`	`Industrial`	`bring your laptop`
`04:16.43`	`Industrial`	`:d`
`04:16.59`	`cladhaire`	`Tain: Is your business called "Crushing Dreams?"`
`04:17.00`	`Tain`	`I got paid $40 an hour to do nothing for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. For months. I was absolutely miserable.`
`04:17.13`	`Industrial`	`$)??!`
`04:17.16`	`Industrial`	`40*`
`04:17.23`	`cladhaire`	`i get 55k a year to be a fucking monkey`
`04:17.27`	`cladhaire`	`i'ma monkey`
`04:17.36`	`Industrial`	`you know what I got for my internship last 10 months?`
`04:17.38`	`Industrial`	`2 euros an hour`
`04:17.41`	`ckknight`	`hehe, wear a pirate suit`
`04:17.47`	`ckknight`	`then you're a monkey in a pirate suit`
`04:17.49`	`Tain`	`I literally went in, sat at a desk, and did nothing all day. I had nothing to do.`
`04:17.53`	`Industrial`	`thats like not even a fucking whopper`
`04:17.53`	`ckknight`	`and your new name is "Slappy"`
`04:18.20`	`cladhaire`	`i'm a monkey`
`04:18.22`	`cladhaire`	`i WISH i wa sa pirate`
`04:18.38`	`Industrial`	`youd sail the sevne seas yarrr`
`04:18.56`	`Tain`	`I looked at buying a house in Las Vegas that was on Booty Lane.`
`04:19.03`	`Industrial`	`:O`
`04:19.18`	`Industrial`	`reminds me of the jackass episode of the town called Myanus`
`04:19.19`	`cladhaire`	`holy shit`
`04:19.20`	`cladhaire`	`hakkar`
`04:19.21`	`cladhaire`	`drun`
`04:19.34`	`Industrial`	`"theres a big red firetruck in Myanus"`
`04:19.41`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, go join the Military, then you'd have something to do`
`04:19.44`	`cladhaire`	`what do i do as a druid in hakkar?`
`04:19.47`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: Um.. i'm gay`
`04:19.48`	`cladhaire`	`and in love`
`04:19.51`	`cladhaire`	`and going to tell them that =)`
`04:19.55`	`ckknight`	`don't ask don't tell`
`04:19.55`	`Industrial`	`both go`
`04:19.58`	`Tain`	`I don't know what your issues is, I don't know if I could count the hours I have played WoW sober.`
`04:20.07`	`cladhaire`	`Tain: lol`
`04:20.14`	`ckknight`	`and there's a lot of gay military porn`
`04:20.19`	`cladhaire`	`true dat`
`04:20.19`	`ckknight`	`surely some of them are gay, too`
`04:20.20`	`cladhaire`	`xtube.com`
`04:20.22`	`cladhaire`	`NSFW`
`04:20.22`	`Tain`	`Men in uniform and all that.`
`04:20.28`	`Industrial`	`lets... not.. get into details`
`04:20.30`	`cladhaire`	`the most homophobic are typically cock-suckiers.`
`04:20.31`	`Industrial`	`>_>`
`04:20.31`	`cladhaire`	`but`
`04:20.32`	`cladhaire`	`yeah`
`04:20.32`	`cladhaire`	`hi`
`04:20.34`	`cladhaire`	`i'm lcad`
`04:20.38`	`cladhaire`	`s/lc/cl/`
`04:20.51`	`cladhaire`	`KEEP UP WIHT MY DRUNK BICCH`
`04:21.24`	`Industrial`	`im rick james bitch!`
`04:21.32`	`Industrial`	`~rock james`
`04:21.35`	`cladhaire`	`i'd apoligize, but i'd like to think i'm bringing some liveliness to #woace`
`04:21.36`	`Industrial`	`~rick james`
`04:21.40`	`cladhaire`	`s/wo/wow/`
`04:22.00`	`Industrial`	`cladhaire, social channels ftw`
`04:22.14`	`kergoth`	`~emulate max`
`04:22.16`	`purl`	`Its been days since my last brush with death, and I'm already feeling light headed.`
`04:22.20`	`kergoth`	`~emulate sam`
`04:22.21`	`purl`	`Holy jumping weasel critters on a hot cross bun! Look at that!`
`04:22.25`	`kergoth`	`hahah`
`04:22.28`	`Tain`	`Either clad isn't as drunk as he claims and can still make search/replace commands fine, or clad is that drunk and has such search/replace that commited that it doesn't matter. And I"m not sure which is worse.`
`04:22.43`	`cladhaire`	`Tain: Aaah.. i'm tricksy`
`04:22.54`	`kergoth`	`i weild regex when drunk too`
`04:22.56`	`Tain`	`It's tricky to rock a rhyme.`
`04:22.57`	`kergoth`	`its scary`
`04:23.40`	`Tain`	`The highest Tetris score I have ever achieved in my life was when I was completely trashed to the point where I couldn't walk to the bathroom after finishing.`
`04:24.13`	`Industrial`	`I have never thrown up when drunk`
`04:24.15`	`Industrial`	`ever`
`04:24.29`	`Industrial`	`I only throw up in the amusement parks`
`04:24.39`	`Tain`	`I'd rather throw up while drunk.`
`04:24.44`	`Industrial`	`true`
`04:24.45`	`cladhaire`	`holy shit hakkar is scary`
`04:24.47`	`cladhaire`	`brb`
`04:24.56`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, http://galleries.aebn.net/beta3/index.cfm/fa/gallery/genre/gaybondage/clip/0011/refid/AEBN-020543/tid/9/layout/tgp_layout1.cfm`
`04:25.00`	`ckknight`	`^--- very NSFW`
`04:25.13`	`ckknight`	`but notice one of the actor's names`
`04:25.17`	`ckknight`	`I find it funny`
`04:39.55`	`*** join/#wowace purl (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt)`
`04:39.55`	`*** topic/#wowace is wowace.com \| ace.pastebin.ca\\| http://www.lua.org/pil <-- READ IT \| Ace 2.0.3768 Beta Release [07/01/06] \| http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/ \| Do not pay attention to the man behind the curtain.`
`04:40.27`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6076 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - cleanup`
`04:43.32`	`kergoth`	`hmm, is there an option to show mana in the perfectraid style aguf look?`
`04:44.32`	`Industrial`	`http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7851163544665086571&q=muay+thai`
`04:44.34`	`Industrial`	`:O`
`04:44.40`	`Industrial`	`hes good`
`04:44.48`	`Industrial`	`and young :s`
`04:45.02`	`CIA-11`	`03thrae * r6077 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - Tooltip will now properly uncompact after being compacted.`
`04:45.02`	`kergoth`	`yay muay thai`
`04:45.10`	`kergoth`	`Industrial: did you see ang bok(sp?)?`
`04:45.16`	`CIA-11`	`03thrae * r6078 10TinyTipExtras/TinyTipExtras.lua: TinyTipExtras - Updated for change in TinyTip.`
`04:45.23`	`Industrial`	`no justthe little clip`
`04:45.31`	`Industrial`	`of the capuera vs muay thai`
`04:45.41`	`Industrial`	`kergoth, I do muay thai :-)`
`04:46.51`	`Industrial`	`no matches yet tho`
`04:47.22`	`kergoth`	`http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368909/ .. good stuff`
`04:47.51`	`kergoth`	`Thrae: tinytip's scale is hokey for me`
`04:47.57`	`kergoth`	`Thrae: keeps resetting to 100`
`04:48.02`	`kergoth`	`think i'm on 1.4.8, i'll try svn`
`04:48.18`	`Thrae`	`kergoth: Fixed on SVN`
`04:48.27`	`kergoth`	`ah, cool`
`04:48.29`	`Industrial`	`http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8514518157668120764&q=muay+thai`
`04:48.29`	`kergoth`	`thanks :)`
`04:48.33`	`Industrial`	`thats from ong bak i believe`
`04:49.23`	`Neronix`	`ckknight: See when adding a category, is it safe to pass "not someCondition and Foo or nil" as an arg, or would it mess up your args-to-table code?`
`04:49.37`	`ckknight`	`categ`
`04:49.40`	`ckknight`	`category to what?`
`04:49.46`	`Neronix`	`tabletliv sorry`
`04:50.05`	`ckknight`	`no, it shouldn't`
`04:50.10`	`Neronix`	`cool, thanks`
`04:50.12`	`ckknight`	`as long as the key's not nil`
`04:50.30`	`ckknight`	`it stops at the first nil key`
`04:51.04`	`Neronix`	`so not someCondition and "foo" or "randomnonsense"?`
`04:53.01`	`kergoth`	`guh, blizz party frames showing up`
`04:53.04`	`kergoth`	`isnt aguf supposed to hide those?`
`04:53.26`	`ckknight`	`Neronix, or nil works.`
`04:53.33`	`ckknight`	`it's a value, not a key`
`04:56.33`	`Thrae`	`Tain: Y offsets are working here, lemme reset my SVDB`
`04:56.44`	`Iceroth`	NanoStats: ModuleClass.lua:9: attempt to call method `DefaultStats' (a nil value)
`04:57.54`	`Iceroth`	`did i miss some relevant thing? i just grabbed everything from /branches/nanostats2/neronix/`
`04:58.23`	`Thrae`	`Tain: Yep, still working fine from SVN version.`
`05:02.58`	`Neronix`	`Iceroth: It's not working yet`
`05:03.16`	`Neronix`	`I've spent a few hours fixing things though`
`05:03.20`	`Neronix`	`this local copy works`
`05:03.48`	`Neronix`	`Only the core and the duration module have been written right now`
`05:04.07`	`Neronix`	`both work, + some polish and they're done`
`05:07.08`	`Iceroth`	`ah.. i just remember reading some commit comment "almost ready for testing" so i wanted to give it a try :)`
`05:18.17`	`*** join/#wowace purl (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt)`
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`05:23.12`	`Tem`	`off to bed with me`
`05:23.18`	`cladhaire`	`k`
`05:23.20`	`cladhaire`	`<3`
`05:24.18`	`CIA-11`	`03thrae * r6081 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - HideRace will now also hide the Creature Type/Classification. As well, you can now use 1-2 ASCII character keys for elite, rare, and other classifications instead of printing the whole word.`
`05:24.55`	`CIA-11`	`03thrae * r6082 10TinyTipOptions/ (TinyTipChatLocale_enEN.lua TinyTipOptions.lua): TinyTipOptions - Updated for change in TinyTip.`
`05:32.54`	`ckknight`	`anyone on the 1.12 test server?`
`05:35.11`	`ckknight`	`or willing to get on`
`05:42.38`	`*** join/#wowace Nightdew (n=nightdew@c-24-30-7-244.hsd1.ga.comcast.net)`
`05:43.43`	`ckknight`	`what's faster/better: string.find(arg1, "^/") or string.sub(arg1, 1, 1) == "/" ?`
`05:44.08`	`cladhaire`	`string.sub makes a new string`
`05:44.49`	`cladhaire`	`so.. i dunno =)`
`05:45.09`	`ckknight`	`going with find for now`
`05:45.16`	`cladhaire`	`i'd think that's the best bet`
`05:45.21`	`ckknight`	`this is for whisper communicatons for AceComm`
`05:45.28`	`ckknight`	`if it starts with /, then it's an addon message`
`05:45.38`	`ckknight`	`cause normal users can't send a message beginning with /`
`05:46.26`	`Nightdew`	`good eve`
`05:46.42`	`ckknight`	`hey Nightdew`
`05:53.19`	`*** part/#wowace cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@cpe-69-202-110-177.twcny.res.rr.com)`
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`05:53.23`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ`
`05:53.45`	`ckknight`	`hey again cladhaire`
`05:53.52`	`cladhaire`	`heyas`
`05:53.57`	`cladhaire`	`i dragged my window out`
`05:54.00`	`cladhaire`	`now i'm WSG'ing drunk`
`05:54.27`	`ckknight`	`fun.`
`05:54.33`	`cladhaire`	`well not so drunk anymore.`
`05:54.36`	`cladhaire`	`but i'll sleep well tonight`
`05:57.52`	`kergoth`	`Thrae: eh, i'm on svn and every time i zone the scale resets back to 100%`
`05:58.00`	`kergoth`	`hrm`
`05:58.06`	`kergoth`	`seems ike its then anyway`
`06:03.09`	`ckknight`	`I figure coding for 1.12 and then adding hacks back for 1.11 would be the best way to do AceComm, don't you think?`
`06:03.14`	`Kyahx`	`so im in a terrible UBRS pug...I die and the warrior says "Sorry, my mouse bugged out"`
`06:03.21`	`Kyahx`	`who clicks to taunt`
`06:03.27`	`ckknight`	`...`
`06:03.36`	`Kyahx`	`important spells = hotkey IMO`
`06:03.38`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`06:03.58`	`Kyahx`	`and now my roomate is yelling at me for telling everyone how to play their class :P`
`06:03.59`	`Nightdew`	`ckknight: how much different is 1.12?`
`06:04.01`	`Kyahx`	`haha`
`06:04.08`	`ckknight`	`extremely, Nightdew`
`06:04.18`	`ckknight`	`slouken was good to us :-)`
`06:04.41`	`ckknight`	`he added addon communication abilities`
`06:05.46`	`Nightdew`	`but is it additions or changes`
`06:06.11`	`Kyahx`	`anything else new and awesome?`
`06:06.16`	`Kyahx`	`aside from addon comms that is`
`06:06.27`	`ckknight`	`cross-server BGs`
`06:06.30`	`ckknight`	`and such`
`06:06.36`	`ckknight`	`and built-in SCT`
`06:07.04`	`Kyahx`	`eh, built-in SCT isnt that great =/`
`06:07.11`	`Kyahx`	`unless it's gotten better since I was last on test`
`06:07.23`	`Nightdew`	`SCT..?`
`06:07.29`	`Kyahx`	`scrolling combat test`
`06:07.30`	`Kyahx`	`text`
`06:12.38`	`Kyahx`	`"Chain fear both adds, and just kill drakk"`
`06:12.46`	`Kyahx`	`Pugs`
`06:12.52`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`06:13.05`	`cladhaire`	`no hunters, or idiots?`
`06:13.08`	`Kyahx`	`"Why fear both, our two locks are our main source of DPS"`
`06:13.46`	`Kyahx`	`no hunters`
`06:14.03`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`06:15.32`	`Gngsk`	`http://pastey.net/42`
`06:15.39`	`Gngsk`	`is that a valid way of recieving an argument from an event?`
`06:16.41`	`Wobin`	`not easy without someone kiting`
`06:17.22`	`Kyahx`	`we wipe`
`06:17.27`	`Kyahx`	`"we need to take out the adds first"`
`06:17.32`	`Kyahx`	`me: "good idea"`
`06:17.36`	`Wobin`	`...`
`06:18.23`	`Kyahx`	`the warrior who is tanking during the conflag is the same one who couldnt taunt an orc off me becuase his mouse bugged out :P`
`06:18.28`	`Kyahx`	`and couldn't click taunt`
`06:18.42`	`Kyahx`	`I hate UBRS`
`06:19.34`	`Wobin`	`I use the mouse a lot =\`
`06:19.49`	`Wobin`	`since I'm on a laptop, and hotkeys are more likely to be mistyped than correctly hit..`
`06:20.11`	`Kyahx`	`L2P Wobin :P`
`06:20.29`	`Kyahx`	`hehe`
`06:20.34`	`Wobin`	`I've been top damage in just about every party I've been in =P`
`06:20.51`	`Wobin`	`I did get edged out by a +3 level mage though =(`
`06:20.55`	`Wobin`	`damn aoe`
`06:20.58`	`Kyahx`	`hehe`
`06:21.49`	`Wobin`	`hehe, had a great farming run last night with a guildie 'lock.`
`06:22.02`	`Wobin`	`he'd two shot undead with shadowbolt while I held them still with cheapshot =P`
`06:22.06`	`Wobin`	`worked quite well =)`
`06:22.23`	`Wobin`	`Alas for Andorhal =P`
`06:23.34`	`Kyahx`	`I now notice that this warrior has an Obsidien Edge Blade out`
`06:23.36`	`Kyahx`	`and no FR`
`06:23.39`	`Kyahx`	`facepalm`
`06:23.42`	`Iceroth`	`nnnnghhh... i'm trying to add mobhealth2 support to my hud but player_target_changed event handler is first executed in my addon and then in mobhealth2 -> bad data`
`06:23.55`	`Iceroth`	`any ideas how to get around that?`
`06:24.29`	`cladhaire`	`hook the mobhealth2 handler`
`06:24.30`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`06:24.31`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`06:25.13`	`Iceroth`	`i suppose that's less fishy than what i would have tried but still.. aargh`
`06:27.58`	`cladhaire`	`heheh`
`06:28.00`	`cladhaire`	`still not nice.`
`06:29.30`	`Iceroth`	`do addons get their events in addon name based alphabetical order?`
`06:29.50`	`Iceroth`	`ie. addon A gets some_event, then addon B, C etc?`
`06:30.03`	`Nightdew`	`load order probably`
`06:30.17`	`Thrae`	`Order of registration I belieev`
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`06:30.35`	`Thrae`	`If they all register in the same scope, then whatever order they're loaded`
`06:30.51`	`Kyahx`	`Best part about a mage...`
`06:30.59`	`Kyahx`	`openning portals to IF, Darnasus, and SW in the same spot`
`06:31.01`	`Thrae`	`Addons are usually loaded alphabetically, but this is not ALWAYS the case.`
`06:31.03`	`Kyahx`	`roulette time!`
`06:31.07`	`Iceroth`	`but shouldn't optionalDeps make the mobhealth load first?`
`06:31.08`	`Nightdew`	`at some point i saw some hacks as well to include tocs that start with ! so they are kinda in alphabetic order lol`
`06:31.30`	`Thrae`	`Iceroth: Yes`
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`06:31.53`	`Thrae`	`Dependencies and OptionalDeps are always loaded first, unless there's a circular dependency.`
`06:32.08`	`Thrae`	`Then I don't know WTF happens. Probably errors out or goes into an infinite loop. I hope it'd error otu!`
`06:32.28`	`Kyahx`	`interesting test`
`06:33.00`	`Iceroth`	`mobhealth did load first but my addon still gets the event before mobhealth`
`06:33.22`	`Iceroth`	`something to do with ace2 events i suppose`
`06:33.54`	`Iceroth`	`oh well, i'll just write some ugly hacks.. i'm a perl coder anyway`
`06:34.03`	`Thrae`	`I'm not sure when AceEvent registers its events.`
`06:34.38`	`Thrae`	`Anyway, why don't you just hook one of MobHealth's functions?`
`06:34.58`	`Iceroth`	`yea i'll do that but it's not really pretty`
`06:35.17`	`Nightdew`	`not if mob is an optional lol`
`06:35.32`	`Iceroth`	`it's no biggie`
`06:35.40`	`Iceroth`	`i can check if it's loaded and hook then`
`06:35.48`	`Iceroth`	`and still maintain my own event handlers`
`06:36.46`	`Wobin`	`~tryme`
`06:36.47`	`purl`	`ACTION pokes Wobin. Possibly`
`06:36.55`	`Wobin`	`aw =(`
`06:37.09`	`Wobin`	`~literal tryme`
`06:37.10`	`purl`	`"tryme" is "<action> pokes $lastspeaker. (Yes\|No\|Maybe\|Possibly\|Almost\|Never\|Always)"`
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`06:41.37`	`Kyahx`	`"i have this mod that reports people whenever they swear in a public channel"`
`06:41.39`	`Kyahx`	`=(`
`06:42.08`	`Kyahx`	`lol`
`06:42.27`	`Thrae`	`Heh, very easy to make that mod, just need to keep appending the current submission string`
`06:42.51`	`Kyahx`	`I hope for that mod to never become popular`
`06:43.03`	`Kyahx`	`if so im fucked`
`06:43.05`	`Kyahx`	`:P`
`06:43.20`	`-FISKER_Q	`they'll probably ban you for it`
`06:43.22`	`-FISKER_Q	`and btw`
`06:43.32`	`-FISKER_Q	`each time you append to a ticket the queue gets reset`
`06:43.46`	`-FISKER_Q	`So i guess it won't actually ever reach a gm unless you log off :P`
`06:43.47`	`Kyahx`	`hmm?`
`06:43.56`	`Kyahx`	`ha`
`06:44.16`	`Thrae`	`-FISKER_Q: When was the last time I saw a GM actually contact me in-game about something non-critical?
`06:44.22`	`Thrae`	`I think it was in beta.`
`06:44.24`	`Thrae`	`Wait...alpha.`
`06:44.35`	`Kyahx`	`I got a 24-hour ban for curseing in general chat before`
`06:44.38`	`Kyahx`	`on retail`
`06:44.46`	`Thrae`	`Wait...maybe I'm thinking of DAoC.`
`06:45.05`	`Worf`	`that reminds me...`
`06:45.09`	`Thrae`	`Maelstrom's GMs are slow to respond to my name violation reports =/`
`06:45.10`	`-FISKER_Q	`doesn't really matter here in Europe, as long as you just pump those tickets out`
`06:45.23`	`-FISKER_Q	`(If your ticket/time worked ratio doesn't play out you're fired)`
`06:45.58`	`Kyahx`	`-FISKER_Q: You seem to know a bit about the ticket system :p
`06:46.36`	`Worf`	`my notepad has a whisper function... and i have a written a text - polite but long - i can whisper to people to stop abusing the LFG channel... so if people spam the channel beyond my treshold of spam pain, i whisper them the text...`
`06:46.54`	`Worf`	`... and recently i managed to get on the ignore list of such a spammer :D`
`06:47.07`	`-FISKER_Q	`yeah Kyahx`
`06:47.15`	`-FISKER_Q	`Got a friend that was fired for the same reason`
`06:47.20`	`Kyahx`	`ha`
`06:47.26`	`Kyahx`	`thats no good =(`
`06:47.29`	`-FISKER_Q	`He wasn't "answering" tickets fast enough`
`06:47.46`	`-FISKER_Q	`By that they meant macroing an ingame mail to the ticketholder saying "Working as intended"`
`06:47.57`	`-FISKER_Q	`Cause this guy actually did read and verify the ticket`
`06:48.21`	`-FISKER_Q	`So if the ticket said "This quest is bugged" he didn't just send back a lame reply he actually checked if it was true`
`06:48.21`	`Kyahx`	`=/ that mades sad verifications about Blizzard's CS department`
`06:49.08`	`-FISKER_Q	`We even got a GM that played item specialist for us`
`06:49.24`	`Thrae`	`Working TS, I find that 90% of the time 1) People don't know what they're talking about, or 2) They lie`
`06:49.26`	`Kyahx`	`item specisalist?`
`06:49.32`	`-FISKER_Q	`yeah`
`06:49.36`	`-FISKER_Q	`or character specialist`
`06:49.51`	`Nightdew`	`its funny.. the company i work for has the best CS in the industry .. with amazing good consequences`
`06:49.53`	`-FISKER_Q	`they send tickets to those guys if you want an item restored, and so on`
`06:50.02`	`Kyahx`	`ah`
`06:50.20`	`Kyahx`	`Nightdew: How so?`
`06:50.32`	`-FISKER_Q	`So in BWL this mage couldn't loot it, so we gave it to another mage which would then create a ticket about it being transfered`
`06:50.49`	`-FISKER_Q	`but then he just said it wasn't possible(i know that it is cause i've gotten it done twice before)`
`06:51.19`	`Nightdew`	`ive been on sale visits. our sales people dont even have to sell.. current customers will come with us on sale calls and basically just rave about us`
`06:51.55`	`Worf`	`-FISKER_Q: yeah, same here... lootmaster missed when klicking ... GM tells this is not possible ... i know the story
`06:52.18`	`Nightdew`	`1.5 months ago i was in NY speaking with Japanese prospects.. and 1 customer came to the meeting to demo their implementation`
`06:52.33`	`Nightdew`	`and after that we visit another customer on site with them`
`06:52.59`	`Nightdew`	`we spoke for all of one hour.. the next 5 were done by non company raving customers`
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`06:53.27`	`Worf`	`but one of the most annoying things was one of our first kills of Sulforon i think. The boss somehow jumped up the wall when dying and couldn't be looted. no GM help either...`
`06:53.43`	`-FISKER_Q	`hey i saw a picture of that :)`
`06:53.49`	`-FISKER_Q	`dunno if it was yours`
`06:53.57`	`-FISKER_Q	`it was a couple of weeks ago or so`
`06:54.47`	`-FISKER_Q	`gonna watch some stargate`
`06:56.30`	`Iceroth`	`i've seen such picture too`
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`07:02.36`	`Worf`	`well, the way the boss moves i'd not be surprised if it would have happened to lots of people`
`07:02.38`	`vhaarr`	`Iceroth: IceHUD/modules/TimerBar.lua assumes the user has FuBar_ToFu, and dies with a nil error if not, even though ToFu is just listed in OptionalDeps.`
`07:04.11`	`Iceroth`	`arf.. i thought i added a check if it was loaded or not..`
`07:04.34`	`Iceroth`	`and i seem to have removed it`
`07:04.37`	`Iceroth`	`good me`
`07:05.58`	`Iceroth`	`i'll make this mobhealth bitch to work and commit the fix then`
`07:08.36`	`CIA-11`	`03worf * r6083 10CC_Target/CC_Target.lua: CC_Target: Shift-Klick for PetAttack now also works on the TargetFrame`
`07:12.22`	`ckknight`	`woot!`
`07:13.02`	`ckknight`	`AceComm properly handles drunkeness, bad item links, \000, and newlines`
`07:13.03`	`ckknight`	`;-)`
`07:13.15`	`Nightdew`	`lol`
`07:13.27`	`ckknight`	`which really means that you can send absolutely any text across now, without fault`
`07:13.45`	`ckknight`	`which allows the possibility for compression and arbitrary serialization`
`07:15.12`	`ckknight`	`now I just need to get proper datagramming and that part of the battle will be over`
`07:15.37`	`ckknight`	`i.e. sending messages > 255 characters long by using packets`
`07:15.57`	`Nightdew`	`ckknight: lol you must have slept or drank a whole lot`
`07:16.07`	`ckknight`	`why's that?`
`07:16.12`	`ckknight`	`I'm still sick :-P`
`07:16.35`	`Nightdew`	`oh no.. ckknight is high on nyquill ;)`
`07:16.43`	`ckknight`	`not quite`
`07:18.13`	`Worf`	`anybody here who could help me debug this "SetUnit" allready has an active hook from this source - issue i have?`
`07:18.35`	`ckknight`	`you're hooking twice.`
`07:19.13`	`Worf`	`ckknight: well, it's not that easy :D`
`07:19.18`	`ckknight`	`yes it is.`
`07:19.57`	`Thrae`	`if not self:IsHooked(GameTooltip, "SetUnit") then self:Hook(GameTooltip, "SetUnit", MySetUnit) end`
`07:22.34`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`07:22.36`	`Worf`	`damn - i just found... don't know how it got there - a hook in one module that's not supposed to hook.`
`07:22.48`	`Worf`	`gotta test again everything...`
`07:28.40`	`Worf`	`well - i found out that i had one obsolete hook in one module, but still: it doesn't seem to be possible to hook the same twice, eaven if it's in different addons`
`07:29.20`	`Worf`	`if i disable one of the two addons everything is fine, but together - the first wins`
`07:29.44`	`Worf`	`hmm... actually the last seems to win`
`07:30.03`	`Thrae`	`You should be able to hook twice as long as they use different embed instances of AceHook...`
`07:30.45`	`Worf`	`Thrae: and let me guess - in a modular design using AceModuleCore-2.0 this is not the case...`
`07:31.01`	`Thrae`	`Never used AceModuleCore-2.0.`
`07:31.28`	`Thrae`	`I guess they decided AceModules should have 1 main instance of everything.`
`07:31.32`	`Iceroth`	`Worf, most likely not if you use the core's aceHook`
`07:31.35`	`ckknight`	`Worf, if it's fucking up for you, it's much more likely you're using it wrong.`
`07:31.49`	`ckknight`	`no, Thrae, we didn't decide that`
`07:32.14`	`ckknight`	`each module is technically its own addon`
`07:32.34`	`Thrae`	`Ah, I see.`
`07:34.12`	`Worf`	`i guess i should write a simple test case.`
`07:37.58`	`vhaarr`	`[Ammo]: poke`
`07:40.04`	`ckknight`	`what's the best way to tell how many 'h's are in a string? e.g. "happy holidays" would have 2`
`07:40.39`	`kergoth`	`Thrae: did you see my message earlier? still having scale issues :\`
`07:40.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`string.gfind(s, "(h)")?`
`07:41.22`	`hyperChipmunk`	`or sec...I know there's a function that does exactly that`
`07:41.46`	`hyperChipmunk`	`like as a second return val or something`
`07:42.31`	`hyperChipmunk`	`gsub`
`07:42.39`	`hyperChipmunk`	`string.gsub returns it as the second argument`
`07:42.44`	`hyperChipmunk`	`er, second return`
`07:43.23`	`hyperChipmunk`	`_, foo = string.gsub(s, "h", "")`
`07:43.47`	`Thrae`	`God my action bars just DIED. They're all messed up.`
`07:43.49`	`hyperChipmunk`	`s/""/"h"/`
`07:43.54`	`Thrae`	`Right in the middle of a BG!`
`07:43.59`	`CIA-11`	`03iceroth * r6084 10IceHUD/ (IceHUD.toc modules/TargetHealth.lua modules/TimerBar.lua):`
`07:43.59`	`CIA-11`	`- Added MobHealth2 support`
`07:43.59`	`CIA-11`	`- Added check if ToFu is enabled for TimerBar`
`07:45.09`	`Soltanis`	`thrae :-( bit like my chat boxes disappering when i zone into AB`
`07:45.15`	`ckknight`	`I' m working on datagramming, chip, so I have to check exactly how big a string can get with drunkenness and such`
`07:45.52`	`hyperChipmunk`	`well, that'll get you what you asked for; the second return value of gsub is how many times it performed a substitution`
`07:46.08`	`Wobin`	`if it's working with the new interface, drunkeness won't be an issue?`
`07:46.23`	`Thrae`	`Now I have to get a damned deserter debuff because I can't play without my keybindings updating themselves when I shift forms.`
`07:46.32`	`Wobin`	`or are you going for more generic?`
`07:46.32`	`ckknight`	`Wobin, I also allow for global and whisper communications`
`07:46.38`	`Wobin`	`ah =)`
`07:46.41`	`ckknight`	`global through a plain channel`
`07:47.39`	`ckknight`	`for slouken's addon communications, it doesn't check drunkenness`
`07:47.48`	`ckknight`	`otherwise, it handles it properly`
`07:48.14`	`vhaarr`	`Tek: I got complaints from the guild about the "Tentacle Rape Party" in BW's C'thun module, can I change it to something more neutral?`
`07:48.21`	`[Ammo]`	`vhaarr: what?`
`07:48.25`	`[Ammo]`	`no you can't`
`07:48.31`	`ckknight`	`Tentacle Rape Party?`
`07:48.31`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`07:48.40`	`vhaarr`	`okay`
`07:48.45`	`[Ammo]`	`changing that will anger the tekk`
`07:48.46`	`ckknight`	`yea, I would.`
`07:48.50`	`vhaarr`	`I'll have to do a guild release then`
`07:48.53`	`ckknight`	`just do it without telling him`
`07:48.57`	`hyperChipmunk`	`change the .lua?`
`07:49.09`	`[Ammo]`	`but I'll add a kidsafe toggle k?`
`07:49.15`	`hyperChipmunk`	`lol`
`07:49.19`	`vhaarr`	`..`
`07:49.27`	`vhaarr`	`yes that would fix it`
`07:49.34`	`[Ammo]`	`in BW2 though`
`07:49.36`	`[Ammo]`	`not BW1`
`07:49.44`	`vhaarr`	`of course`
`07:49.54`	`[Ammo]`	`and that german guy who did locals for all of ZG, he'll have to do it again :p`
`07:49.56`	`hyperChipmunk`	`pseudopodic molestation incoming?`
`07:50.04`	`ckknight`	`hrm, now to think of a datagram format...`
`07:50.10`	`vhaarr`	`the kidsafe will be on by default, then, I imagine`
`07:50.13`	`[Ammo]`	`no`
`07:50.30`	`vhaarr`	`this is silly, you can't release a product with strings like that`
`07:50.36`	`vhaarr`	`(yes yes I know it's not production yet)`
`07:50.38`	`[Ammo]`	`ofcourse I can`
`07:50.40`	`ckknight`	`link the kidsafe model with the profanity filter.`
`07:50.45`	`hyperChipmunk`	`who's releasing a product?`
`07:50.45`	`ckknight`	`bam, everyone wins`
`07:50.48`	`Worf`	`ok. i did create a testcase: http://mg36.vc-graz.ac.at/users/worf/WoW/HookTest.zip that shows the problem.`
`07:50.48`	`[Ammo]`	`I'm a dutch asshole who doesn't care :)`
`07:50.56`	`hyperChipmunk`	`we just write code`
`07:51.07`	`[Ammo]`	`but ehm, we're not removing the tentacle rape by def`
`07:51.20`	`ckknight`	`just link it with profanity filter`
`07:51.27`	`ckknight`	`how does that not make everyone win?`
`07:51.31`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`07:51.45`	`Worf`	`i'd be very happy if one could have a look at that... and either tell me what i'm doing wrong or confirm that there maybe is really a ace bug`
`07:51.46`	`[Ammo]`	`tentacle $%&# party in 10 seconds`
`07:52.00`	`vhaarr`	`that would rock`
`07:52.16`	`hyperChipmunk`	`O_o`
`07:52.23`	`ckknight`	`Worf, looking`
`07:52.27`	`hyperChipmunk`	`people gonna suspect it's much much worse if you do that`
`07:52.42`	`ckknight`	`chip, what's worse than rape?`
`07:52.44`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo 07Ace2 * r6085 10BigWigs/ZG/Arlokk.lua:`
`07:52.44`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs (Ace2):`
`07:52.44`	`CIA-11`	`* Bugfix in Arlokk`
`07:52.44`	`Gngsk`	`What would be the best event to register in order to call GuildRoster() so that GetNumGuildMembers() doesn't return 0 first time it's called? PEW doesn't seem to do the trick.`
`07:57.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`AceEvent_FullyInitialized?`
`07:58.38`	`ckknight`	`Gngsk, yea, AceEvent_FullyInitialized would set you straight`
`07:59.13`	`Kyahx`	`~c'thun`
`07:59.15`	`purl`	`* Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - Pleasure! *`
`07:59.18`	`Kyahx`	`:)`
`07:59.36`	`ckknight`	`:-)`
`07:59.44`	`ckknight`	`Worf, testing, btw`
`08:00.14`	`Kyahx`	`So MiniPerfsFu is reporting that I have a 0.0 KiB/s Increaseing Rate`
`08:00.16`	`Kyahx`	`this is impossible`
`08:00.21`	`Gngsk`	`ckknight, well, I'm trying to change AceAutoInviite, which is ace1, guess I should port it to ace2`
`08:00.35`	`Worf`	`ckknight: curiousely awaiting your opinion :D`
`08:01.34`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm`
`08:01.36`	`Gngsk`	`I want it to only auto accept invites from fellow guild members. The problem is it's IsPlayerInGuild() relies on GetNumGuildMembers() which returns 0 until the guild roster has been updated`
`08:01.55`	`[Ammo]`	`what would be the lua way of writing: ( somevar ? "yes" : "no" )`
`08:02.16`	`hyperChipmunk`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:02.31`	`hyperChipmunk`	`returns foo if somevar true, bar otherwise`
`08:02.37`	`[Ammo]`	`k`
`08:02.54`	`Nightdew`	`seriously, sweet`
`08:03.28`	`hyperChipmunk`	`well, technically correct to your example: somevar and "yes" or "no"`
`08:03.46`	`ckknight`	`[Ammo], technically, you gotta make sure that "yes" is a true value`
`08:03.51`	`ckknight`	`e.g. not nil or false`
`08:03.53`	`Worf`	`ckknight: btw - both modules should write a message when you for example move the mouse over a unit frame...`
`08:03.57`	`ckknight`	`nil and nil or true == true`
`08:04.14`	`hyperChipmunk`	`well, "yes" is true`
`08:04.23`	`ckknight`	`just making a point`
`08:04.27`	`hyperChipmunk`	`foo might not be`
`08:04.37`	`ckknight`	`false and false or true == true`
`08:04.39`	`Thrae`	`This is ridiculous! Now I can't shapeshift properly with the default action bars with no addons!`
`08:04.49`	`ckknight`	`false and foo or true == foo or true`
`08:05.07`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, howso?`
`08:05.11`	`Thrae`	`Ugh, I'm going to bed.`
`08:05.26`	`Thrae`	`Well, the action buttons aren't swapping pages when Visor is enabled.`
`08:05.42`	`Thrae`	`So something broke Visor.`
`08:07.10`	`[Ammo]`	`svn slow again?`
`08:07.15`	`[Ammo]`	`I made a profanity toggle for C'Thun :)`
`08:07.26`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo 07Ace2 * r6086 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua:`
`08:07.26`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs (ace2):`
`08:07.26`	`CIA-11`	`* C'Thun now has a profanity toggle which will remove the word Rape`
`08:07.26`	`CIA-11`	`* Default option is hentai ofcourse.`
`08:07.27`	`[Ammo]`	`Tender Loving Care - 5 sec!`
`08:07.34`	`[Ammo]`	`just kidding :)`
`08:08.34`	`ckknight`	`Ammo, why not link it to the CVar?`
`08:08.59`	`[Ammo]`	`shrug`
`08:09.11`	`[Ammo]`	`this'll work`
`08:09.42`	`[Ammo]`	`since if you have the profanity filter enabled you already don't see the Rape word`
`08:09.45`	`[Ammo]`	`since it gets replaced`
`08:09.52`	`vhaarr`	`no, it shows`
`08:09.58`	`[Ammo]`	`rofl`
`08:09.59`	`ckknight`	`not true, Ammo`
`08:09.59`	`CIA-11`	`03worf * r6087 10CC_Roll/CC_Roll.lua: CC_Roll: removed a obsolete hook`
`08:10.05`	`[Ammo]`	`k`
`08:10.12`	`[Ammo]`	`must be only replcaed in channels then`
`08:10.26`	`[Ammo]`	`I know we have a CTRA channel called penispenis at times`
`08:10.34`	`ckknight`	`it's replaced in the ChatFrame_OnEvent, I think`
`08:10.35`	`[Ammo]`	`and well, people can't join that with the filter on :)`
`08:10.48`	`Worf`	`lol`
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`08:11.12`	`Worf`	`this opens up great possibilities :D`
`08:11.16`	`[Ammo]`	`this afternoon 15 of my guildmembers from Finland. Denmark, the UK and .nl will come over to my place ;)`
`08:11.21`	`[Ammo]`	`we're going to have a BBQ`
`08:11.39`	`[Ammo]`	`most of the foreigners are already stoned in Amsterdam ;)`
`08:12.26`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`08:12.39`	`Nightdew`	`lol`
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`08:12.43`	`Nightdew`	`imagine that`
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`08:13.17`	`Nightdew`	`always fun to see the groups of 20+ brits push each other into a red room one after another.. and get rowdy and fall into the canals`
`08:13.29`	`Thiana`	`Is clad the flyspray admin?`
`08:13.44`	`hyperChipmunk`	`kael i think`
`08:13.48`	`Thiana`	`k, thanks`
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`08:17.50`	`Soltanis`	`any way to change the direction of the side bars in bartender?`
`08:21.29`	`kergoth`	`i believe mikma was working on that. not sure if he got it implemented or not though`
`08:23.06`	`Worf`	`ckknight: according to you not quickly telling me what i did wrong i assume that it's at least nothing obvious i did wrong with that hooks, right? :D`
`08:23.08`	`Soltanis`	`ok thanks`
`08:23.17`	`ckknight`	`Worf, Ace bug`
`08:23.21`	`ckknight`	`fixing`
`08:23.47`	`CIA-11`	`03thiana 07otravi * r6088 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: otravi_UnitFrames.lua: Move self.frames init to OnInitialize() since OnEnable() isnt always called before other oUF modules use CreateFramework()`
`08:26.20`	`ckknight`	`oh...`
`08:26.23`	`ckknight`	`I know why.`
`08:28.47`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6089 10Ace2/AceHook-2.0/AceHook-2.0.lua: AceHook - moved .hooks creation from :embed to :OnEmbedInitialize`
`08:28.53`	`ckknight`	`all fixed, Worf`
`08:29.11`	`ckknight`	`glad we caught that`
`08:29.25`	`Worf`	`so my reputation is not going down the drain for that? :D`
`08:29.41`	`[Ammo]`	`I'd say you're a rising star`
`08:30.04`	`ckknight`	`actually, that won't always work...`
`08:30.06`	`ckknight`	`hang on...`
`08:30.29`	`Soltanis`	`hmm take it im not meant ot be getting errors from 70% of the furbar plugins :-)`
`08:31.43`	`[Ammo]`	`soltanis: got fubar-compat-1.2?`
`08:32.53`	`Soltanis`	`nope only just downloaded fubar again. will that fix all my problems?`
`08:33.29`	`[Ammo]`	`delete your fubar folder, get a new one from the svn`
`08:33.35`	`[Ammo]`	`and get FuBar-compat-1.2 from the svn`
`08:33.38`	`[Ammo]`	`it's a seperate addon`
`08:33.44`	`[Ammo]`	`that should fix you up`
`08:33.50`	`[Ammo]`	`or get an old fubar from WoWi`
`08:36.05`	`Soltanis`	`hmm ok only lootty not working now :-)`
`08:36.36`	`[Ammo]`	`I think that's an 1.0 addon`
`08:36.39`	`[Ammo]`	`which is nolonger supported`
`08:37.01`	`[Ammo]`	`ohwell time to pick up a shitload of meat`
`08:37.03`	`[Ammo]`	`~`
`08:37.05`	`ckknight`	`use GroupFu`
`08:37.20`	`Soltanis`	`ok, thank you`
`08:37.25`	`ckknight`	`that's the start of every gay porno, Ammo`
`08:38.30`	`Worf`	`maybe - but also the start of every barbecue`
`08:38.54`	`ckknight`	`ah, same thing`
`08:41.00`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6090 10Ace2/AceHook-2.0/AceHook-2.0.lua: AceHook - fixed manual embedding`
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`08:41.39`	`ckknight`	`Worf, very good on the zip file`
`08:43.14`	`Worf`	`ckknight: can you think of other similar problems? hmm... events propably can be registered multiple times anyway... hooks are the only critical things i guess`
`08:49.09`	`ckknight`	`no, events are handled differently`
`08:49.15`	`ckknight`	`hooks is handled through self.hooks`
`08:53.47`	`CIA-11`	`03neronix 07Neronix * r6091 10NanoStats2/NanoStats2/NanoStats2_ModuleClass.lua:`
`08:53.48`	`CIA-11`	`NanoStats2 (Pre-alpha) [Core] - Module class`
`08:53.48`	`CIA-11`	`- Moved .requirements into .eventList`
`08:53.48`	`CIA-11`	`- Changed LinesUpdateRequest to LinesDataUpdateRequest`
`08:53.48`	`CIA-11`	`- Fixed BuildConfig`
`08:57.03`	`CIA-11`	`03neronix 07Neronix * r6092 10NanoStats2/NanoStats2/ (NanoStats2.lua NanoStats2.toc): (log message trimmed)`
`08:57.03`	`CIA-11`	`NanoStats2 (Pre-alpha) [Core]`
`08:57.03`	`CIA-11`	`- Fixed TOC (And removed ugly colours from name)`
`08:57.04`	`CIA-11`	`- Added configurable text size`
`08:57.04`	`CIA-11`	`- Added ConfigChanged. Called when stuff needs updated after a config change`
`08:57.05`	`CIA-11`	`- Fixed duration tracking`
`08:57.07`	`CIA-11`	`- Changed menu registration temporarily until Tablet-2.0 can take AceOptions tables`
`08:57.18`	`Neronix`	`- Added tablet:Open/Close to OnEnable and Disable`
`08:57.18`	`Neronix`	`- Fixed tick timer scheduling`
`09:01.01`	`CIA-11`	`03neronix 07Neronix * r6093 10NanoStats2/NanoStats2_Duration/ (NanoStats2_Duration.lua NanoStats2_Duration.toc):`
`09:01.02`	`CIA-11`	`NanoStats2 (pre-alpha) [Duration]`
`09:01.02`	`CIA-11`	`- Fixed TOC and got rid of ugly colours`
`09:01.02`	`CIA-11`	`- Modifed for .requirements change`
`09:01.02`	`CIA-11`	`- Config functions have found self`
`09:01.03`	`CIA-11`	`- Config functions updated for ConfigChanged`
`09:01.16`	`Neronix`	`Hm, not long till it goes into alpha, or even beta`
`09:01.36`	`Neronix`	`Core's done. Needs polish and locals`
`09:01.48`	`Neronix`	`Duration's done. Also needs polish and locals`
`09:01.58`	`Neronix`	`Damage and Healing haven't been written yet`
`09:01.58`	`*** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=moonwolf@f176182.upc-f.chello.nl)`
`09:01.59`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ`
`09:02.20`	`ckknight`	`hey Mr. Wolf`
`09:02.35`	`MoonWolf`	`morning everbody`
`09:02.43`	`Neronix`	`morning moony`
`09:04.01`	`ckknight`	`I'm writing AceComm now, btw`
`09:04.33`	`Nightdew`	`morning`
`09:05.07`	`MoonWolf`	`great`
`09:06.23`	`ckknight`	`need to think of a proper datagramming system, though`
`09:07.46`	`MoonWolf`	`what is wrong with <header, most likely name of addon or shorthand>:<message> ?`
`09:08.10`	`ckknight`	`what if I want to send a 500 char message?`
`09:08.28`	`ckknight`	`and prefixing is all taken care of already`
`09:08.35`	`MoonWolf`	`right`
`09:09.06`	`ckknight`	`MoonWolf, aside from just the Addon comm stuff slouken gave us, I'm also allowing for a global channel and whisper communication`
`09:09.47`	`MoonWolf`	`how about (cont 1)`
`09:10.03`	`MoonWolf`	`cont means more will come after this 1 means one more message.`
`09:10.03`	`ckknight`	`I'm thinking at the beginning, <id><current><max>`
`09:10.36`	`ckknight`	`where <id> is a letter a-z or A-Z`
`09:10.45`	`MoonWolf`	`what is id usefull for ?`
`09:10.55`	`ckknight`	`multiple addons sending at the same time`
`09:11.22`	`ckknight`	`with priorities and throttling, datagramming needs to be id'd otherwise it's ambiguous`
`09:11.30`	`MoonWolf`	`right`
`09:11.40`	`ckknight`	`and <current><max> will just be bytes`
`09:11.48`	`MoonWolf`	`what if you are sending a onepart message ? is max dropped ?`
`09:12.00`	`ckknight`	`max'd be 1, current'd be 1`
`09:12.56`	`ckknight`	`AceComm can send absolutely any message now, as long as it's short enough. I have an encoder/decoder that takes care of \000, \n, and \|`
`09:13.09`	`MoonWolf`	`so a full message would be <header>:<id><current><max><message>`
`09:13.13`	`ckknight`	`so improper item links will be sent through no big deal`
`09:13.21`	`ckknight`	`right, MoonWolf`
`09:13.37`	`ckknight`	`<header>\t<id><current><max><message>`
`09:13.50`	`ckknight`	`if it's a whisper, it has a / on the front`
`09:13.56`	`MoonWolf`	`I propose another delimiter between <max> and <message>`
`09:14.05`	`ckknight`	`could be useful`
`09:14.12`	`ckknight`	`or maybe just \t delimiters separating each`
`09:14.15`	`ckknight`	`and just using numbers`
`09:14.24`	`ckknight`	`that'd be easier than bytes at the beginning`
`09:14.33`	`ckknight`	`cause \010 is too close to the start`
`09:14.36`	`ckknight`	`it'd mess things up`
`09:14.40`	`MoonWolf`	`its a string value anyway`
`09:14.57`	`MoonWolf`	`untill we start parsing.`
`09:15.35`	`ckknight`	`so we're at 248 characters per message, if you add up both prefix and message`
`09:16.05`	`ckknight`	`well, roughly`
`09:16.40`	`MoonWolf`	`commlib takes care of splitting the messages right ?`
`09:17.00`	`ckknight`	`AceComm does`
`09:17.31`	`MoonWolf`	`Will you implement a rawsend so you can have full controll over the message ?`
`09:17.34`	`ckknight`	`and it'll also have serialization/deserialization`
`09:17.39`	`ckknight`	`um, I don't think so`
`09:17.56`	`ckknight`	`it'll all be standardized and secure`
`09:18.15`	`MoonWolf`	`right, just asking.`
`09:22.07`	`Nightdew`	`gnight all`
`09:23.23`	`ckknight`	`g'night`
`09:23.42`	`MoonWolf`	`night`
`09:26.16`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`09:33.20`	`Iceroth`	`is there a way to get item's vendor sell value (without actually 'showing' that item to a vendor)?`
`09:35.14`	`ckknight`	`having a big database`
`09:35.41`	`Iceroth`	`has anyone collected such a thing?`
`09:36.59`	`ckknight`	`Auctioneer`
`09:37.05`	`Worf`	`for example`
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`09:37.47`	`Fritti`	`KC_Items too`
`09:38.38`	`Worf`	`i have a old addon named SellValueLight`
`09:39.05`	`[Ammo]`	`KCI collects sell values`
`09:40.21`	`Fritti`	`doesn't the master DB have them for lots of items already?`
`09:40.41`	`Iceroth`	`it seems to have`
`09:41.18`	`CIA-11`	`03kebinusan 07Ace2 * r6094 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: BigWigs (Ace2 Branch): Closed a string on line 64 of the C'Thun module.`
`09:43.01`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo 07Ace2 * r6095 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua:`
`09:43.01`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs (ace2):`
`09:43.01`	`CIA-11`	`* Profanity thing now actually in the menu as well`
`09:44.35`	`Kebinusan`	`hmm, to respec or not, that is the question`
`09:49.33`	`Worf`	`hmm... the AceConsole options table has several different types... is one of them suitable for calling a function with a optional parameter?`
`09:49.44`	`Worf`	`i mean - type "text" requires a parameter ...`
`09:49.46`	`[Ammo]`	`text`
`09:49.55`	`[Ammo]`	`doesn't you can have e validate`
`09:50.03`	`[Ammo]`	`just validate for "" I think`
`09:50.14`	`[Ammo]`	`there's also the execute type`
`09:50.27`	`Worf`	`i allready added a validate function just returning true...`
`09:50.36`	`Worf`	`does execute pass parameters?`
`09:50.50`	`Worf`	`trying execute ....`
`09:50.53`	`[Ammo]`	`not sure`
`09:51.25`	`Fritti`	`validate for "" doesn't work`
`09:51.29`	`Fritti`	`I ran into that last night as well`
`09:51.44`	`Worf`	`Fritti: did you find a way?`
`09:52.32`	`Fritti`	`no, I ended up using 2 different executes`
`09:52.48`	`CIA-11`	`03iceroth * r6096 10IceHUD/modules/DruidMana.lua: Added missing IsAddOnLoaded check for DruidMana`
`09:53.12`	`Worf`	`Fritti: hmm... no, not a option here :D`
`09:54.18`	`Fritti`	`only way I can think of is to have an execute and somehow get to the orignial input line if possible, but it's not possible using the current AceOptions table format afaik`
`09:55.25`	`Fritti`	`maybe execute should pass the rest of the line as a parameter anyway? can't think of a case where it's harmful`
`09:55.33`	`ckknight`	`I know how`
`09:55.35`	`ckknight`	`ooh ooh, pick me`
`09:55.51`	`ckknight`	`type = 'text', get = false`
`09:56.18`	`Fritti`	`no, doesn't work without paramaters`
`09:56.26`	`ckknight`	`that works.`
`09:56.40`	`Worf`	`ckknight: but i just tried that`
`09:56.47`	`ckknight`	`I wrote it, I would know`
`09:56.48`	`Fritti`	`me too last night. it kept displaying usage string`
`09:56.57`	`Worf`	`hmm`
`09:56.59`	`Fritti`	`but let me try again`
`09:57.06`	`Worf`	`i also try again`
`09:57.15`	`ckknight`	`type = 'text', get = false, set = function(text) print(text) end, name = "whatever", desc = "whatever"`
`09:57.38`	`Fritti`	`i had that -- it works for arbitrary strings, yes`
`09:57.56`	`Fritti`	`but it errors out when donig just '/command' instead of '/command my_arbitrary_string'`
`09:58.08`	`ckknight`	`well, cause it wants text`
`09:58.21`	`Fritti`	`yes, that's what we were trying to avoid :)`
`09:58.27`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`09:58.32`	`Fritti`	`a way to have '/command' and '/command foo'`
`09:58.49`	`Fritti`	`so how about letting type='execute' pass the input line to the func?`
`09:58.52`	`ckknight`	`it's not supposed to be done that way`
`09:58.55`	`ckknight`	`not happening, Fritti`
`09:59.00`	`ckknight`	`doesn't translate to a GUI`
`09:59.13`	`Fritti`	`hmm.... ok.`
`09:59.34`	`Worf`	`well - but a gui that has input fields must have a way to allow a empty string, no?`
`09:59.42`	`Fritti`	`right, no way for the UI to know whether to display inputbox, I can see that`
`10:00.12`	`ckknight`	`why do you want an empty string?`
`10:00.22`	`Fritti`	`optional arguments`
`10:00.27`	`Fritti`	`I had for BugSack: /bs show`
`10:00.30`	`Fritti`	`and /bs show curr`
`10:00.43`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:00.50`	`Fritti`	`yeah, but that's more typing in the default case`
`10:01.20`	`ckknight`	`it's too small a use case. this is a WONTFIX situation`
`10:01.22`	`Worf`	`well - and i just have this parameter that also has the empty string as valid case`
`10:02.12`	`Fritti`	`ckknight: it's not a big problem, I ended up having '/bs show' and '/bs curr' but it's something I ran into, and Worf now did as well which is why I piped up`
`10:02.38`	`Worf`	`i'll find a way too`
`10:02.54`	`ckknight`	`try in vain`
`10:03.25`	`Fritti`	`anyhow once my l33t FuBar_BugSackFu has materialized I won't even have to type it anymore :-D`
`10:04.09`	`Worf`	`to me this sounds like the old 0 vs. zero/nil thing, just with strings :D`
`10:06.42`	`Worf`	`arghs... when porting a addon that did grow over time, you realize how much work did go into all the details...`
`10:07.40`	`kergoth`	`hm, as a rogue, XRS is almost enough info on the other people in the raid, could almost disable perfectraid for that class`
`10:07.41`	`Worf`	`and again i found 2 features that need to be put somewhere...`
`10:08.21`	`MoonWolf`	`kergoth, perfectraid isnt enough info for a rogue ?`
`10:08.56`	`Worf`	`MoonWolf: too much info`
`10:09.09`	`MoonWolf`	`right`
`10:09.45`	`kergoth`	`yeah, that`
`10:09.47`	`Worf`	`hmm... gotta check XraidStatus.. could be eaven enough for my Druid :D`
`10:09.53`	`kergoth`	`no point seeing individuals`
`10:09.59`	`kergoth`	`i'm a rogue, i dont care about those people ;)`
`10:15.58`	`Worf`	`i'm (sometimes) a healer, i also don't care about individuals :D`
`10:16.11`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`as a druid I don't recommend xrs as the only raid addon :P you can't xheal with it :ED`
`10:16.23`	`MoonWolf`	`nobnody cares about us dps people.`
`10:16.54`	`Wobin`	`awww`
`10:16.57`	`Wobin`	`K9!`
`10:17.22`	`Wobin`	`I think I prefer Christopher Eccleston =\`
`10:17.27`	`Wobin`	`He was more... manic`
`10:17.53`	`*** join/#wowace Sairen (n=Miranda@p549E5142.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`10:24.15`	`Worf`	`just installed XRA...`
`10:24.31`	`MoonWolf`	`and ?`
`10:24.54`	`Worf`	`... looks good, but i have to find out how to enable the buffs as shown in the screenshot`
`10:28.05`	`Worf`	`xrs i mean`
`10:28.19`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`did you installed xrs from the svn or the old one?`
`10:28.28`	`Worf`	`svn trunc... ace2 ...`
`10:28.44`	`Worf`	`propably buffs not implemented?`
`10:28.45`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`then there is no buff display yet`
`10:28.50`	`Worf`	`ahok`
`10:29.05`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`I want it to do with SEE Aura, but it's not converted to ace 2 as of now`
`10:29.41`	`Worf`	`on mouseover you show the names you say... argh - i gotta install the old version and check...`
`10:30.20`	`Worf`	`v. 1.10.1 is the latest?`
`10:30.23`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`mouseover is the next thing I'm going to implement :)`
`10:30.38`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`the latest release version, but it's rather old`
`10:30.58`	`Worf`	`because if you don't yet have, i have a nice way to display names... for example in CC_RangeCheck`
`10:31.50`	`CIA-11`	`03iceroth * r6097 10IceHUD/libs/: Added missing external (AceHook-2.0). Doh.`
`10:31.59`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`you have a screenshot?`
`10:32.21`	`Worf`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5087-CC_RangeCheck.html`
`10:32.25`	`Worf`	`there is a screenshot`
`10:33.00`	`Worf`	`hmm... i wanted to convert this to ace2 too...`
`10:33.16`	`CIA-11`	`03neronix 07Neronix * r6098 10NanoStats2/NanoStats2/NanoStats2.lua: NanoStats2 (Pre-alpha) [Core] - Added slash commands (/ns2, /nanostats2)`
`10:33.46`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`But isn't the tooltip a bit too wide if there are many people of a class (10 or so)?`
`10:34.37`	`Worf`	`well... never had a problem yet... but you're right... it can become big`
`10:35.12`	`Worf`	`but actually i have this feature on all the time: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5083`
`10:35.26`	`Worf`	`and eaven in 40er raids i'm fine with that`
`10:36.01`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`I activatet that feature in TinyTip, and the tooltip covered half of my screen :P`
`10:36.13`	`Worf`	`hehehe`
`10:36.23`	`Worf`	`tinytip also hast that?`
`10:36.34`	`Worf`	`since when?`
`10:36.35`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`btw. I like the idea of seeing who is in range etc. Would you mind if I add a bar type to XRS to see if everyone is in range (zone and <100m) ?`
`10:36.44`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`don't know, using it since a week`
`10:37.02`	`Worf`	`i'm not happy with my range check anyway - feel free to steal everything :D`
`10:37.24`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`don't want to steal the code, only the idea ;)`
`10:37.29`	`Worf`	`hehe`
`10:37.49`	`Worf`	`beware of rogues in stealth tough :D`
`10:37.59`	`Worf`	`i can't yet handle them`
`10:38.18`	`Kebinusan`	`There is some range check code in RaidSummon, never looked at it though`
`10:38.42`	`Kebinusan`	`it tries to summon people not in the instance and not in the zone as you, furthest away first I think`
`10:39.16`	`Worf`	`hmm... actually - thinking of XRS... some bar showing how many people are nearby with mouse-hover feature would be damn cool and make CC_RangeCheck obsolete`
`10:39.26`	`Kebinusan`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1543`
`10:40.09`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`I'll try my best ;)`
`10:40.52`	`Worf`	`FtH\|Eagle: but please consider to visualize the classes in the tooltip somehow`
`10:41.01`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`I will`
`10:41.17`	`Worf`	`FtH\|Eagle: cause it makes a difference if you have a tank and a healer nearby, or none :D`
`10:41.19`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`I'll start on the tooltip thing after I added that type now`
`10:42.13`	`Worf`	`i'm really looking forward to that...`
`10:43.36`	`Wobin`	`Aw =( David Gemmel died =(`
`10:44.01`	`Worf`	`FtH\|Eagle: actually - if the buffs do work... then i could throw out quite some addon crap i've installed currently`
`10:44.11`	`Worf`	`Wobin: someone we should know?`
`10:44.18`	`Wobin`	`Author`
`10:44.26`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`I really hope that see aura will be converted soon`
`10:44.29`	`Wobin`	`not necessarily known, I guess =P`
`10:44.35`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`I don't want to use my old code for buff checking, it was crap`
`10:45.26`	`ckknight`	`woot!`
`10:45.36`	`ckknight`	`and datagramming in AceComm is done and working`
`10:45.44`	`ckknight`	`or at least it seems to be well enough ;-)`
`10:48.15`	`CIA-11`	`03neronix 07Neronix * r6099 10NanoStats2/NanoStats2/NanoStats2_ModuleClass.lua: NanoStats2 (Pre-alpha) [Core] - Fixed error in module class`
`10:49.08`	`Worf`	`FtH\|Eagle: hmm... how about then implementing a feature to klick the buff icon in XRS to cast the buff on one of the players needing it? :D`
`10:49.18`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`you know the old xrs?`
`10:49.23`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`was already implemented in there :)`
`10:49.29`	`Worf`	`FtH\|Eagle: oh :D`
`10:49.38`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`you could spam a button and buff every person`
`10:50.20`	`Worf`	`ok, i really need to install the old version until you have implemented that in the new :D`
`10:50.25`	`ckknight`	`yep, it works and passes the tests`
`10:51.33`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`but be warned, the old addon could cause a little fps lag sometimes`
`10:51.42`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`and creating bars is a pain ...`
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`10:55.05`	`CIA-11`	`03iceroth * r6100 10IceHUD/IceHUD.toc: Updated the TOC as well for AceHook...`
`10:58.26`	`*** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)`
`10:58.42`	`ckknight`	`here's my thoughts for AceComm:`
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`10:59.17`	`ckknight`	`basically, you have :SendCommMessage("text", "distribution" [, "person"])`
`10:59.41`	`ckknight`	`and that automatically makes a prefix from .name or what have you`
`11:00.00`	`ckknight`	`now to receive messages, you'd do something similar to AceEvent's :RegisterEvent`
`11:01.04`	`ckknight`	`hrm...`
`11:01.18`	`Tuplad`	`:o`
`11:01.21`	`ckknight`	`should other addons be able to register with another addon's prefix?`
`11:01.31`	`ckknight`	`I can't think of a current use case`
`11:01.36`	`Neronix`	`oRA would want to use CTRA's, so yes`
`11:01.42`	`ckknight`	`okay.`
`11:01.48`	`ckknight`	`so I'll call it :RegisterComm for now`
`11:02.10`	`ckknight`	`:RegisterComm("prefix", "method" or func)`
`11:02.20`	`ckknight`	`and :UnregisterComm("prefix")`
`11:02.29`	`ckknight`	`hrm...`
`11:02.37`	`ckknight`	`maybe I could just make it :TriggerComm`
`11:02.48`	`ckknight`	`thus making it exactly like AceEvent :-P`
`11:03.22`	`ckknight`	`actually, the :RegisterComm would be :RegisterComm("prefix", "distribution", "method" or func)`
`11:03.34`	`ckknight`	`by "distribution", I mean "WHISPER", "GLOBAL", "RAID", etc.`
`11:04.49`	`ckknight`	`:TriggerComm("distribution" [, "person"], ...)`
`11:05.03`	`ckknight`	`"person" only exists if "distribution" is "WHISPER"`
`11:05.20`	`ckknight`	`what's everyone think?`
`11:05.43`	`ckknight`	`actually, I think I'm gonna stick with :SendCommMessage instead of :TriggerComm`
`11:06.43`	`ckknight`	`also, Neronix, with AceComm, oRA won't be able to use CTRA's _unless_ it uses AceComm as well, since it's a closed system`
`11:10.47`	`Neronix`	`I see`
`11:12.44`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6101 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FBP-2.0 - added more checks`
`11:13.30`	`ckknight`	`AceComm uses its own drunken filter and other filters`
`11:13.47`	`ckknight`	`it also has datagramming`
`11:14.01`	`ckknight`	`in essence, you can send absolutely any string you want now`
`11:14.07`	`ckknight`	`no matter the contents ;-)`
`11:15.21`	`ckknight`	`or the length`
`11:15.43`	`ckknight`	`a 500-bytes string is perfectly acceptable to send across with AceComm`
`11:16.50`	`ckknight`	`with broken item links and \n's scattered throughout`
`11:17.52`	`steino`	`So, when is fb2 gonna work without fubar? :(`
`11:18.25`	`ckknight`	`when someone makes it work without FuBar`
`11:18.32`	`steino`	`doh`
`11:19.12`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`range type is working worf :D`
`11:19.20`	`Worf`	`FtH\|Eagle: :D`
`11:19.45`	`Worf`	`FtH\|Eagle: now go for the buffs! :D`
`11:19.47`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`But I think I will allow to select which range check you want to use, same zone, 100 yards, 30 yards`
`11:19.53`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`first the tooltips :P`
`11:20.26`	`Worf`	`jeje`
`11:20.28`	`Worf`	`hehe`
`11:23.23`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo 07Ace2 * r6102 10BigWigs/Other/Test.lua:`
`11:23.23`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs (Ace2):`
`11:23.23`	`CIA-11`	`* Sync testing added`
`11:25.33`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo 07Ace2 * r6103 10BigWigs/Other/Test.lua:`
`11:25.34`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs (ace2):`
`11:25.34`	`CIA-11`	`* Typo fix`
`11:26.24`	`CIA-11`	`03neronix 07Neronix * r6104 10NanoStats2/NanoStats2/NanoStats2.lua:`
`11:26.24`	`CIA-11`	`NanoStats2 (Pre-alpha) [Core]`
`11:26.24`	`CIA-11`	`- Fixed a stupid, stupid bug in EventRegistrar`
`11:26.25`	`CIA-11`	`- Tweaked OnDisable`
`11:26.25`	`CIA-11`	`- Added a step of 1 to the text size option`
`11:26.27`	`CIA-11`	`- Fixed args given to tablet category registration. First column text should now be the correct colour and second column text should resize`
`11:26.57`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo 07Ace2 * r6105 10BigWigs/Other/Test.lua:`
`11:26.57`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs (Ace2 Branch):`
`11:26.57`	`CIA-11`	`* zomg learn to type`
`11:28.41`	`FryGuy`	`hmm`
`11:28.45`	`FryGuy`	`how stable is bw2?`
`11:29.03`	`Shyva`	`\|---\| like that`
`11:29.05`	`Neronix`	`I was doing "if type(self.eventList) == table" rather than "if type(self.eventList) == "table"" -_-`
`11:29.09`	`Neronix`	`I'm a tard`
`11:31.08`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo 07Ace2 * r6106 10BigWigs/Other/Test.lua:`
`11:31.08`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs (Ace2 Branch):`
`11:31.08`	`CIA-11`	`* shows I shouldn't be coding today.`
`11:31.09`	`Tuplad`	`you are indeed`
`11:31.18`	`Tuplad`	`:D`
`11:31.22`	`Neronix`	`>(`
`11:31.27`	`[Ammo]`	`FryGuy: most modules function`
`11:31.35`	`[Ammo]`	`I'm going to test and debug the syncing now with shyva`
`11:32.05`	`FryGuy`	`grumbles`
`11:32.20`	`FryGuy`	`i need to make a timing mod for loatheb now :/`
`11:32.43`	`Tuplad`	`Neronix: check PM mD`
`11:32.45`	`Tuplad`	`:D*`
`11:33.21`	`Neronix`	`ckknight: Is there any way to make a tablet fixed-width?`
`11:33.35`	`ckknight`	`no`
`11:33.42`	`ckknight`	`don't know, actually`
`11:33.45`	`ckknight`	`I assume no`
`11:34.56`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo 07Ace2 * r6107 10BigWigs/Other/Test.lua:`
`11:34.56`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs (ace2):`
`11:34.56`	`CIA-11`	`* Fixed startbar call`
`11:38.01`	`*** join/#wowace FryGuy- (i=fryguy@c-24-23-19-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`11:40.33`	`CIA-11`	`03neronix 07Neronix * r6108 10NanoStats2/NanoStats2/NanoStats2_ModuleClass.lua:`
`11:40.34`	`CIA-11`	`NanoStats2 (Pre-alpha) [Core]`
`11:40.34`	`CIA-11`	`- The fix for the stupid, stupid bug didn't go in the last commit >.>`
`11:40.34`	`CIA-11`	`- In BuildConfig, tostring(self) is now string.lower'd. Stops cmd line options from looking slightly out of place`
`11:46.48`	`CIA-11`	`03iceroth * r6109 10IceHUD/ (IceHUD.toc libs/): Fixed broken externals. I hope this isn't becoming a habit.`
`11:51.29`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`Yeah different range modes are working now :D`
`11:54.24`	`CIA-11`	`03iceroth * r6110 10IceHUD/ (IceHUD.toc modules/DruidMana.lua): DruidMana now properly unregister metro when disabled`
`11:58.04`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo 07Ace2 * r6111 10BigWigs/Comm.lua:`
`11:58.04`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs (Ace2):`
`11:58.04`	`CIA-11`	`* Syncing fixed`
`12:00.17`	`[Ammo]`	`ag: ag_UnitClass.lua line 1072: attempt to index field ReputationWatchBar_Update`
`12:01.22`	`CIA-11`	`03moonsorrow * r6112 10XRS/ (6 files in 2 dirs):`
`12:01.22`	`CIA-11`	`XRS:`
`12:01.22`	`CIA-11`	`- added Bindings.xml: buff check can now be initiated through a key`
`12:01.22`	`CIA-11`	`- new type 'range': 3 different modes (30, 100, zone)`
`12:01.22`	`CIA-11`	`- Metrognome lib added`
`12:02.31`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo 07Ace2 * r6113 10BigWigs/Comm.lua:`
`12:02.31`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs (ace2):`
`12:02.31`	`CIA-11`	`* Small cleanup`
`12:05.38`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r6114 10BabbleLib/Babble-Boss-2.0/Babble-Boss-2.0.lua:`
`12:05.38`	`CIA-11`	`Babble-Boss-2.0:`
`12:05.39`	`CIA-11`	`* Removed excessive space from Noth`
`12:07.07`	`*** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)`
`12:07.51`	`*** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)`
`12:08.47`	`FryGuy-`	`:\`
`12:10.39`	`Tuplad`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full3420.jpg check this, for an unknown reason you can only see 9 and then FuBar at the place of memory usage :D`
`12:12.04`	`Tuplad`	`95.5 MB says the other screenshot. Well :\|`
`12:15.16`	`Tuplad`	`MoonWolf: lern2count spams me at start and the only way to get out is either restarting the PC or somehow stopping the process :<`
`12:15.23`	`Tuplad`	`MoonWolf: GetInvCount all the time`
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`12:15.35`	`MoonWolf`	`Tuplad, i know`
`12:15.42`	`Tuplad`	`MoonWolf: what to do ? /cr`
`12:15.45`	`Tuplad`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:15.53`	`MoonWolf`	`you just enclountered the risk of the svn`
`12:15.56`	`MoonWolf`	`its not alway's stable.`
`12:16.00`	`Tuplad`	`yep :D`
`12:16.38`	`MoonWolf`	`revert to the previous commit`
`12:16.43`	`Tuplad`	`to which revision should I revert ?`
`12:16.54`	`MoonWolf`	`eeeuh`
`12:17.27`	`steino`	`r5879 ?`
`12:17.29`	`steino`	`:)`
`12:17.32`	`Tuplad`	`kay`
`12:18.28`	`Fritti`	`svn up -rPREV`
`12:18.43`	`haste`	`I bet he isn't using the commandline ;)`
`12:18.52`	`Tuplad`	`ye :)`
`12:19.00`	`Tuplad`	`tortoise svn gui ftw >:\|`
`12:19.13`	`ckknight`	`Fritti, totally read that as perv.`
`12:19.15`	`[Ammo]`	`then use the revert...`
`12:19.16`	`[Ammo]`	`option`
`12:19.56`	`Fritti`	`ckknight: you prev!`
`12:21.02`	`Tuplad`	UnitClass.lua:1072: attempt to index field `ReputationWatchBar_Update' (a nil value) -> is that agUF ?
`12:21.04`	`steino`	`oO`
`12:21.09`	`steino`	`this rev works with asbestos too`
`12:21.11`	`steino`	`coool`
`12:21.34`	`steino`	`tho`
`12:21.35`	`steino`	`its kinda bugged`
`12:21.44`	`Tuplad`	`:D`
`12:21.45`	`MoonWolf`	`in what way`
`12:21.53`	`steino`	`well`
`12:21.56`	`Tuplad`	`Iceroth: you pimp! energy ticker in IceHUD :D`
`12:22.03`	`steino`	`it takes the amout of casts i can do from the main action bar`
`12:22.07`	`steino`	`not the actual spells`
`12:22.11`	`steino`	`so when i swap bars`
`12:22.35`	`steino`	`the numbers swap too :)`
`12:22.50`	`steino`	`like`
`12:22.54`	`steino`	`i have 6k mana pool`
`12:23.09`	`steino`	`and it says i can cast a prayer that costs 3k mana`
`12:23.12`	`steino`	`23 times`
`12:23.15`	`steino`	`:)`
`12:23.23`	`MoonWolf`	`cool!`
`12:23.26`	`steino`	`makes a vid`
`12:23.39`	`Kebinusan`	`what do you prefer, damagemeters swstats`
`12:23.39`	`MoonWolf`	`lern2count allows you to cast more spells!`
`12:23.39`	`Tuplad`	`harr, how do u leave a memo on freenode ? ;\`
`12:23.51`	`Tuplad`	`Kebinusan: none, damage meters sucks`
`12:23.53`	`MoonWolf`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:24.36`	`Kebinusan`	`Tuplad, yeah 90% of the time I agree`
`12:25.00`	`Kebinusan`	`the other 10% I need to know who is playing texas holdem and who is trying`
`12:25.04`	`steino`	`and it says i can cast wotf 25 times`
`12:25.08`	`steino`	`and it doesnt even cost mana :<`
`12:25.17`	`Kebinusan`	`or something`
`12:25.19`	`MoonWolf`	`right`
`12:25.36`	`[Ammo]`	`knowing who's not pulling their weight in raids is goood...`
`12:25.49`	`MoonWolf`	`its not updating the values in asbestos on button switches because i never accounted for that.`
`12:25.59`	`MoonWolf`	`grab a button in your regular bar and put it back`
`12:26.01`	`MoonWolf`	`see what happens.`
`12:26.06`	`Kebinusan`	`I prefer it mostly for seeing if I am pulling my weight and to test out different specs`
`12:26.07`	`Tuplad`	`The nickname [Iceroth] is not registered -_-" no memo for him`
`12:26.31`	`Fritti`	`hmm, I'm probably the only one getting a FuBar-compat-1.2 error about self.data not being defined? (using FuBar 2.0, and the 1.2 clockfu plugin for testing)`
`12:26.37`	`Tuplad`	`Kebinusan: most of the time Im the lowest dps in ZG, and Im a rogue`
`12:26.52`	`*** join/#wowace teedog (i=chatzill@vpn2-dhcp-138.bu.edu)`
`12:26.54`	`Tuplad`	`Kebinusan: most of the time Im just stunlocking or some like that, and the great thing is, I go out with 99% durablity :D`
`12:26.59`	`steino`	`it seems to update fine on the action bars`
`12:27.25`	`Tuplad`	`Kebinusan: while the other rogues died like 10 times because they got aggro, I say: l2p, damage meters dont say shit :)`
`12:27.31`	`steino`	`it is updating the asbestos bar aswell, but with the values from my main actionbar :)`
`12:27.51`	`MoonWolf`	`it was never ment to work for asbestos`
`12:27.57`	`MoonWolf`	`ill write a plugin for that along the way`
`12:28.12`	`steino`	`was just that it didnt even show there before :)`
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`12:29.20`	`MoonWolf`	`its uninteded semi functionality`
`12:30.04`	`steino`	`i can live with that`
`12:30.28`	`MoonWolf`	`but it does mean i can most likely write a plugin for asbestos`
`12:30.32`	`Industrial`	`http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9048/ezquake003by4.png`
`12:30.33`	`Industrial`	`h4x`
`12:30.34`	`MoonWolf`	`i did not know it still worked.`
`12:30.54`	`MoonWolf`	`quake one diffculty portal`
`12:31.03`	`steino`	`the last version rowne released is still working really good :)`
`12:31.04`	`MoonWolf`	`best diffeculty selection system ever.`
`12:31.15`	`MoonWolf`	`if you can jump decently you cant even get to hard or hardest.`
`12:31.24`	`Industrial`	`hehe`
`12:33.57`	`Industrial`	`http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7258/ezquake001fh8.png`
`12:33.58`	`Industrial`	`:>`
`12:34.19`	`CIA-11`	`03elkano * r6115 10ElkBuffBar/ElkBuffBar.lua: ElkBuffBar - now featuring Trap MK2`
`12:34.57`	`Fritti`	`ckknight: http://ace.pastebin.ca/105023 -> want me to make a proper bug report?`
`12:35.35`	`Elkano`	`ok, I think I've found out what's happening with EBB... it seems like compost is acquireing the same table twice... maybe another addon released it twice...`
`12:37.30`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6116 10FuBarPlugin-1.2/Lib/FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua: FBP-1.2 - fixed data bug caused by LoD evilness`
`12:37.32`	`ckknight`	`Fritti, there you go`
`12:37.32`	`steino`	`oO`
`12:37.39`	`steino`	`my fb2 error went away`
`12:37.42`	`maia`	`basic question, but I can't find it's answer in lua PIL: example: local a = {}; local b = a; is b a pointer to a, and whenever I change something inside b, a gets changed as well? And assuming thats the fact, how would I properly copy a table (instead of only setting a reference to it)?`
`12:37.43`	`Elkano`	`ckknight, if JostleLib-2.0 breaks with JostleLib-1.0 present, maybe FuBarComapt-1.2 shouldn't load 1.0, should it?`
`12:37.43`	`steino`	`:OOO`
`12:37.51`	`ckknight`	`Elkano, it doesn't`
`12:37.56`	`Tuplad`	`Can you change the strata with Visor ?`
`12:38.20`	`Fritti`	`ckknight: thanks`
`12:38.40`	`Fritti`	`<3 FuBar development support :)`
`12:38.45`	`steino`	`finally bigwigs2 loaded fully without fubar :)`
`12:38.52`	`steino`	`<3`
`12:40.38`	`ckknight`	`in many ways, I'm like a painter`
`12:40.45`	`ckknight`	`granted, I lost my paintbrush`
`12:40.53`	`ckknight`	`but I do still have a paintball gun...`
`12:41.09`	`steino`	`haha`
`12:41.10`	`ckknight`	`splat.`
`12:41.14`	`steino`	`evil :<`
`12:41.25`	`ckknight`	`you had it coming`
`12:41.30`	`steino`	`i know`
`12:42.12`	`steino`	`hmm`
`12:42.20`	`steino`	`candybars was sexy tho`
`12:42.20`	`steino`	`:)`
`12:43.00`	`ckknight`	`that wasn't me`
`12:43.12`	`steino`	`i know`
`12:43.28`	`steino`	`prolly why they are sexy`
`12:43.30`	`Neronix`	`I have 90 minutes to write NS2Fu`
`12:44.08`	`Tuplad`	`:O`
`12:45.16`	`[Ammo]`	`steino: thanks :p`
`12:45.22`	`steino`	`aah`
`12:45.23`	`[Ammo]`	`oh and thank fryguy too`
`12:45.25`	`steino`	`i knew it was you!`
`12:45.27`	`[Ammo]`	`for the maths`
`12:45.31`	`maia`	`anone happen to know anything regarding my question? I can't find the answer in lua.org/manual either. I guess they don't explain it as the answer is clear to programmers.`
`12:45.32`	`FryGuy`	`yes the maths!`
`12:45.34`	`FryGuy`	`thank me!`
`12:45.38`	`steino`	`thank you!`
`12:45.41`	`Neronix`	`With the s!`
`12:45.42`	`FryGuy`	`:D`
`12:45.43`	`Neronix`	`:P`
`12:46.15`	`steino`	`was kinda wierd to raid with only bossblock and no local raidwarner :p`
`12:46.32`	`steino`	`cause im so lazy to go back to the old bw :<`
`12:46.36`	`Neronix`	`maia: something like function(from, to) for k,v in pairs(from) do to[k] = v end`
`12:46.41`	`Neronix`	`end`
`12:47.21`	`maia`	`Neronix: so a = {}; b = a; in fact is not copying but referencing, right? Thanks.`
`12:47.29`	`Neronix`	`np`
`12:47.50`	`Kebinusan`	`So, is NS2 just nanostats for ace2 or is it improved with the power of lemon or something`
`12:48.53`	`Neronix`	`Not only does it have lemon power (tm),`
`12:48.54`	`-FISKER_Q	`hmm`
`12:48.55`	`Neronix`	`it's modular`
`12:48.57`	`Neronix`	`faster`
`12:48.58`	`Kebinusan`	`ah I see it looks all modular and such`
`12:49.00`	`Neronix`	`cleaner inside`
`12:49.05`	`Kebinusan`	`spiffy`
`12:49.09`	`-FISKER_Q	`now with 1.12 would it be possible to make some kind of all-mods-supported syncer?`
`12:49.11`	`Neronix`	`(NS1 looks like a rube goldberg machine to me)`
`12:49.19`	`Kebinusan`	`heh`
`12:49.31`	`Neronix`	`easily extendable via the module system`
`12:49.42`	`Neronix`	`It's as big or small as you want it to be`
`12:50.36`	`Kebinusan`	`I was using nanostatsfu in bwl the other day, I really liked the format.. time in combat, dps and overall damage.. all clean and easy to read.. so I ditched dpsfu and havent been happier`
`12:50.52`	`Neronix`	`dpsfu's evil`
`12:51.02`	`Neronix`	`it's got fucking parserlib strapped to the back of it`
`12:51.16`	`Neronix`	`70somethingKib of code that's not even used`
`12:51.26`	`Neronix`	`and rophy ninja'd my options toggler code`
`12:52.18`	`Industrial`	`core*`
`12:52.26`	`Tuplad`	`Visor wiki is gone ?!`
`12:52.29`	`Industrial`	`\o\`
`12:52.32`	`Industrial`	`/o/`
`12:52.33`	`Industrial`	`\o/`
`12:52.36`	`Industrial`	`_o_`
`12:52.40`	`Tuplad`	`\|o\|`
`12:52.47`	`-FISKER_Q	`hey i'm thinking of a cool idea`
`12:52.50`	`Kebinusan`	`well glad I got rid of it`
`12:52.54`	`Neronix`	`\O.o>`
`12:52.55`	`-FISKER_Q	`although it requires all addons follow it :P`
`12:53.03`	`Industrial`	`-FISKER_Q, FAIL
`12:53.07`	`-FISKER_Q	`:(`
`12:53.10`	`Industrial`	`;x`
`12:53.37`	`-FISKER_Q	`Well there's all this stuff about irrelevant addons syncing under a raid perhaps`
`12:53.54`	`-FISKER_Q	`you could have raidassist or ora broadcast some kind of "nospam" when the raid is still running`
`12:54.05`	`-FISKER_Q	`then make every author comply with it`
`12:54.08`	`-FISKER_Q	`(or else)`
`12:54.17`	`-FISKER_Q	`raidassist and ora ofc :P`
`12:54.26`	`Industrial`	`I dont raid`
`12:54.30`	`Industrial`	`problem solved`
`12:54.32`	`Industrial`	`\o/`
`12:54.34`	`-FISKER_Q	`:o`
`12:55.06`	`FryGuy`	`..why?`
`12:55.19`	`Industrial`	`not going to be in some instande 100 times to get my set of armorwich ultimately gives nothing back but having the item, while instead I can play versus intelligent opponents`
`12:55.21`	`steino`	`He doesnt have a "main"`
`12:55.24`	`steino`	`:)`
`12:55.27`	`FryGuy`	`no i mean why nospam`
`12:55.31`	`steino`	`oh`
`12:55.56`	`Industrial`	`not to mention with 39 other item-horny people wanting to get it as much a s you`
`12:56.08`	`-FISKER_Q	`well if you had some big operation like some kind of gatherer syncing or something going`
`12:56.14`	`-FISKER_Q	`would be a lot of data to be processed`
`12:56.15`	`Industrial`	`just not fun imo`
`12:56.16`	`Kebinusan`	`I dunno Industrial, on my realm intelligent isnt how I would describe most of the players Ive gone up against`
`12:56.23`	`-FISKER_Q	`while already processing a lot of data from a raid`
`12:56.28`	`Industrial`	`and tbh if i had a lv 60 I wouldnt raid either`
`12:56.34`	`Industrial`	`Kebinusan, wait for 1.12`
`12:56.45`	`Neronix`	`I don't think the allies think of me as intelligent`
`12:56.47`	`Kebinusan`	`Yeah, Im waiting to see if my queue times go down or not`
`12:56.51`	`Industrial`	`I played some pretty nice pvp fights`
`12:56.52`	`Kebinusan`	`Im half expecting them to go up`
`12:56.55`	`Neronix`	`<-- Only did WSG... 4 times?`
`12:56.58`	`Industrial`	`up? nah`
`12:57.05`	`FryGuy`	`i think they'll go up`
`12:57.12`	`Kebinusan`	`but Im looking forward to the world pvp aspect considering Im on a carebear pve realm`
`12:57.15`	`FryGuy`	`cause my server's fairly balanced`
`12:57.18`	`Industrial`	`I think down because there will be more instances`
`12:57.29`	`FryGuy`	`ah but there's going to be a lot more alliance`
`12:57.38`	`FryGuy`	`they're going to be a lot more normalized is what they're going to be`
`12:57.40`	`Industrial`	`most people choose auto anyway so it fills up everything nicely`
`12:57.50`	`Neronix`	`I wonder what they did to limit zerging in the world stuff`
`12:57.51`	`FryGuy`	`instead of one realm having 1 hour wait times and one realm having 5 minutes`
`12:58.01`	`ckknight`	`zerging how?`
`12:58.07`	`FryGuy`	`it'll make them all 45 minutes :p`
`12:58.07`	`Kebinusan`	`Actually the one thing I think blizzard has failed at so far is that you have pugs vs premades in battlegrounds`
`12:58.16`	`Kebinusan`	`join as group should only put you against others who join as group`
`12:58.30`	`Tuplad`	`Visor wiki is gone :( anyone has a backup ?`
`12:58.31`	`FryGuy`	`no, should just remove "join battleground" option`
`12:58.33`	`Industrial`	`that would be nice`
`12:58.33`	`-FISKER_Q	`Better matchmaking imo`
`12:58.38`	`FryGuy`	`make a better LFG system`
`12:58.44`	`FryGuy`	`and treat battlegrounds as normal instances`
`12:58.47`	`-FISKER_Q	`put in a ranking system and make groups out of the rankings instead`
`12:58.52`	`-FISKER_Q	`no shit about ilevels and stuff`
`12:58.54`	`Kebinusan`	`And there needs to be an option to retain your spot in queue and skip joining a game already in progress`
`12:58.58`	`Neronix`	`ckknight: Most servers have far more allies than horde --> More allies can walk into EPL/Silithus than horde`
`12:59.01`	`-FISKER_Q	`If people own, they own, knock it up a notch`
`12:59.05`	`ckknight`	`ah`
`12:59.06`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`12:59.11`	`Industrial`	`Kebinusan, thats not fair`
`12:59.36`	`Industrial`	`Kebinusan, fair as in what if youd occupy a place in the line of another cash machine while busy with one yourself`
`12:59.38`	`Kebinusan`	`is it fair to get into an AV game 5 seconds from ending after a three hour queue only to lose w/o doing a thing`
`12:59.51`	`Industrial`	`it really isnt`
`12:59.58`	`Industrial`	`because thered be other people waiting in that queue`
`13:00.02`	`Industrial`	`you have no priviledge`
`13:00.10`	`Industrial`	`noone does`
`13:00.17`	`ckknight`	`anyone else get an Apache error with http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/1p12/outdoorpvp.xml ?`
`13:00.33`	`Industrial`	`no ck`
`13:00.49`	`Neronix`	`apache?`
`13:00.55`	`Neronix`	`They actually switched to apache?`
`13:00.57`	`Kebinusan`	`meh, it doesnt need to be like a cash register line though... 'The battleground you are joining has been in progress for xx:xx, would you like to join or skip this game and retain your spot in queue?'`
`13:01.28`	`Industrial`	`I still think joining multiple queues isnt social`
`13:01.37`	`ckknight`	`what do you mean?`
`13:01.43`	`Industrial`	`Compare it with doing that at the supermarket if you have more then one person`
`13:01.57`	`Kebinusan`	`I agree with that, I think you should get per bg deserter debuffs that last 30 minutes`
`13:02.09`	`Industrial`	`wichever is fastest you ust move to and thats lame`
`13:02.10`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`13:02.26`	`ckknight`	`I do that in supermarkets, Indie`
`13:02.34`	`ckknight`	`and there's self-serve now`
`13:02.35`	`Industrial`	`No debuffs, just a queue. 1 queue per bg instance`
`13:02.35`	`Kebinusan`	`abandoning a wsg game to go to AB and leaving people behind is a bit irksome`
`13:02.56`	`Industrial`	`1 queue position per person`
`13:03.01`	`Industrial`	`ckknight, well thats unfair`
`13:03.18`	`Kebinusan`	`I dont like how AV is just a race now and objectives have lost all meaning`
`13:03.45`	`Industrial`	`Im actually downloading chobits now`
`13:03.46`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`13:03.48`	`Industrial`	`>_<`
`13:06.20`	`haste`	`Industrial: Chobits is kewl ;D`
`13:06.37`	`steino`	`:)`
`13:06.49`	`Kebinusan`	`any other recommendations, I need some quality anime to watch`
`13:07.02`	`steino`	`I have two of the chobits books lying here`
`13:07.02`	`steino`	`:O`
`13:07.15`	`[Ammo]`	`nice critstreak: http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demontexasfu1.jpg`
`13:07.18`	`Industrial`	`go go gadget torrent file priorities`
`13:07.26`	`Industrial`	`watching ep 1`
`13:07.27`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`13:07.41`	`Industrial`	`holy crap ammo`
`13:07.42`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah ammo he had divine favor stuck on I believe`
`13:08.28`	`Kebinusan`	`We had a druid in our guild get natures swiftness stuck on before`
`13:08.31`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`13:08.36`	`[Ammo]`	`mind control bugs ftw`
`13:08.47`	`Kebinusan`	`Also had a warrior get the 8pc wrath bonus stuck, 100% parry all the time baby`
`13:08.47`	`haste`	`NW focus ftw`
`13:08.51`	`haste`	`when it bugged all the time ;)`
`13:10.25`	`Tuplad`	`shaman with NS stuck would be cool :\|`
`13:10.28`	`Tuplad`	`or a rogue with CB`
`13:11.06`	`Kebinusan`	`a warlock with... hmm nah we dont get talents like that`
`13:11.12`	`steino`	`nightfall?`
`13:11.13`	`steino`	`:)`
`13:11.18`	`Kebinusan`	`ok theres one`
`13:11.20`	`[Ammo]`	`ohnightfall`
`13:11.23`	`Kebinusan`	`that'd be fun`
`13:11.31`	`Tuplad`	`that'd be overpowered ...`
`13:11.31`	`[Ammo]`	`click click click click click click SPLUTAGGRODEATH`
`13:11.43`	`Kebinusan`	`heh its like getting ba on vael`
`13:11.59`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`13:12.12`	`Neronix`	`Doesn't help with aggro control :(`
`13:12.42`	`[Ammo]`	`at least you go out with a bang`
`13:12.43`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah, vael is lazy though, he always just teleports me to his face`
`13:14.08`	`Kebinusan`	`now nef w/o fear ward is interesting... we try to place bets at what percent the warriors will all get feared and I'll die`
`13:14.54`	`-FISKER_Q	`we just have our warriors l2p :P`
`13:15.05`	`haste`	`Kebinusan: welcome to the world of horde and stance dancing`
`13:15.16`	`-FISKER_Q	`^^`
`13:15.16`	`Kebinusan`	`hey, do you know how rare dwarf priests are`
`13:15.23`	`Kebinusan`	`at least you guys get tremor totems`
`13:15.25`	`-FISKER_Q	`they should've learned 2 play imo`
`13:15.30`	`steino`	`do you know how rare shamans are?`
`13:15.31`	`haste`	`Tremor totems got nerfed :p`
`13:15.37`	`-FISKER_Q	`tremor is bull`
`13:15.39`	`Kebinusan`	`really?`
`13:15.42`	`steino`	`yes`
`13:15.44`	`steino`	`its utter crap`
`13:15.45`	`Kebinusan`	`they dont stack anymore or something`
`13:16.04`	`-FISKER_Q	`you gotta remember`
`13:16.06`	`haste`	`they proc less now`
`13:16.10`	`[Ammo]`	`we had our MT die on nef at 14%`
`13:16.10`	`haste`	`and they have half the range`
`13:16.15`	`[Ammo]`	`but another tank jumped in`
`13:16.22`	`[Ammo]`	`so only 4 mages got burned or something`
`13:16.26`	`-FISKER_Q	`If you loose a mobs attention from being crowd controlled you will not have his aggro right away`
`13:16.29`	`-FISKER_Q	`you have to hit him once`
`13:16.37`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah we also get alliance easy mode BOS`
`13:16.47`	`Kebinusan`	`Id die alot more if I were a horde warlock`
`13:17.01`	`-FISKER_Q	`Whereas fear ward makes so that you're not crowd controlled. Tremor totem have to proc and the tank has to run after the mob afterwards`
`13:17.23`	`Neronix`	`At least we get pallies now`
`13:17.31`	`Kebinusan`	`I hate bliz for that`
`13:17.35`	`haste`	`I don't`
`13:17.40`	`Neronix`	`Lazy, but good fix for the imbalance`
`13:17.46`	`-FISKER_Q	`also not to mention that every healer try to stand out of range of fear`
`13:17.47`	`haste`	`1. It balances out the factions.`
`13:18.01`	`-FISKER_Q	`meaning that one tank + tremor totem would mean that your healers probably would get instant wiped`
`13:18.04`	`haste`	`2. They can develope them differently now, they are no longer a oposition`
`13:18.07`	`Neronix`	`Better than buffing or coming up with new abilities for the Horde that could still make the balance uneven`
`13:18.21`	`FryGuy`	`ammo: did that guy's divine favor get stuck on? :p`
`13:18.23`	`Tuplad`	`http://pastey.net/44 - where did I go wrong here?`
`13:18.36`	`Iceroth`	`urgh... Tuplad, Elkano, what do you want?)`
`13:18.46`	`Iceroth`	`and i think i gotta register my nick :s`
`13:18.51`	`-FISKER_Q	`Yeah but stuff like "Mobile Raid totem of Kings" or something to that effect would be lame`
`13:18.55`	`Kebinusan`	`horde already have stronger racials`
`13:19.04`	`Neronix`	`Tuplad: You didn't define a SelfHonor_OnLoad function`
`13:19.04`	`Fritti`	`Ace2DB question, should RegisterDefaults("profile", { defaults }) always reset the values in the defaults in the current profile?`
`13:19.12`	`Kebinusan`	`well, aside from diplomacy`
`13:19.16`	`-FISKER_Q	`i'd trade mine for human racials every day`
`13:19.23`	`Tuplad`	Iceroth: TargetHealth.lua:101: attempt to call global `MobHealth_GetTargetCurHP' (a nil value)
`13:19.27`	`ckknight`	`Fritti, you shouldn't register defaults twice`
`13:19.29`	`-FISKER_Q	`only thing WOTF is good for is a priest`
`13:19.30`	`Tuplad`	`Neronix: o_O, aight`
`13:19.36`	`Neronix`	`I sometimes think I should've rolled a mage`
`13:19.41`	`-FISKER_Q	`and if you're not properly cooled down you're going to lose anyways`
`13:19.43`	`Neronix`	`cause of the way I play my lock now`
`13:19.53`	`Kebinusan`	`but diplomacy stops being useful when you hit exalted`
`13:20.00`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah diplo sucks`
`13:20.04`	`[Ammo]`	`I'd never use a human`
`13:20.04`	`-FISKER_Q	`I once took down a warlock to ~5-10% hp, i know it's impossible, but i did.`
`13:20.12`	`[Ammo]`	`Gnome ftw`
`13:20.19`	`-FISKER_Q	`Then he death coiled me, dotted me and i only got up to him because he got stuck on the way up a hill`
`13:20.23`	`Iceroth`	`Tuplad, are you using mobhealth?`
`13:20.23`	`[Ammo]`	`escape artist gets you out of mind flay on C'Thun too :p`
`13:20.24`	`Kebinusan`	`Well they really need a warlock talent review`
`13:20.25`	`[Ammo]`	`cheater :)`
`13:20.27`	`-FISKER_Q	`i killed him and died to the curse of agony`
`13:20.33`	`Tuplad`	`Iceroth: ye`
`13:20.37`	`Iceroth`	`1 or 2?`
`13:20.54`	`Kebinusan`	`Affliction needs to a serious review, demonology and destro could stand some small tweaks too`
`13:20.57`	`-FISKER_Q	`escape artist is nerfed too much though i think`
`13:20.58`	`Tuplad`	`Iceroth: 2`
`13:21.01`	`Tuplad`	`I think`
`13:21.04`	`-FISKER_Q	`but shadowmeld is devastating`
`13:21.05`	`[Ammo]`	`it's not`
`13:21.07`	`Neronix`	`Affliction only has one cookie cutter spec`
`13:21.16`	`Neronix`	`and only really benefits grinders and drain tankers`
`13:21.17`	`Tuplad`	`Iceroth: MobHealth: A database of estimated creature health values, with display - copyright 2004 by Telo`
`13:21.26`	`Neronix`	`Same with X/ruin`
`13:21.29`	`[Ammo]`	`not really Neronix`
`13:21.32`	`[Ammo]`	`but that's me :)`
`13:21.38`	`Iceroth`	`that's the old one then`
`13:21.48`	`[Ammo]`	`I'm going to respec to Shadowburn, Dark pact, demonic embrace, imp imp 1/2 healthstone`
`13:21.48`	`Kebinusan`	`the debuff limit is a real problem in pve raiding, especially since every other class review has added additional raid debuffs`
`13:21.53`	`[Ammo]`	`for raiding build`
`13:21.57`	`Kebinusan`	`not to mention the continual problem with deep wounds`
`13:22.03`	`Iceroth`	`why the hell do ppl name their addons with the same name as other ppl >.<`
`13:22.09`	`Neronix`	`And there's not much in Demonology for the raider, except DS and MD`
`13:22.23`	`[Ammo]`	`SM/DS is my other fav build`
`13:22.24`	`Kebinusan`	`well alot of the DS locks will probably switch next patch`
`13:22.30`	`Kebinusan`	`the pet rez trick no longer works`
`13:22.33`	`Fritti`	`ckknight: k will make sure I don't`
`13:22.36`	`[Ammo]`	`heheyeah`
`13:22.39`	`Neronix`	`:(`
`13:22.40`	`-FISKER_Q	`oh snap Kebinusan`
`13:22.42`	`-FISKER_Q	`why not?`
`13:22.51`	`Kebinusan`	`cause blizzard finally got off their ass and fixed it`
`13:23.07`	`-FISKER_Q	`that's probably the most retarded thing i've ever heard`
`13:23.08`	`Neronix`	`It wasn't a bug, it was described as a creative use of game mechanics`
`13:23.13`	`Neronix`	`so it's not a fix, but a nerf`
`13:23.16`	`haste`	`Iceroth: adding support for Telo's MobHealth is painful...`
`13:23.20`	`[Ammo]`	`if you're not going DS / MD you shouldn't go past the rank 1 talents inn demo`
`13:23.24`	`Iceroth`	`:\|`
`13:23.32`	`-FISKER_Q	`I can still remember, i think it was tseric, saying it was a valid tactic, and warlocks would be good off rolling engineers so they could do it themselves`
`13:23.35`	`-FISKER_Q	`that's just bullshit`
`13:23.40`	`Iceroth`	`well Wyv's version wasn't so pretty either`
`13:23.45`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah it was way imba`
`13:24.01`	`Neronix`	`Dark pact in a raid sounds handy though`
`13:24.14`	`[Ammo]`	`it's not that much mana`
`13:24.15`	`Neronix`	`Better than converting priest mana into your own mana`
`13:24.16`	`[Ammo]`	`but it helps`
`13:24.20`	`Neronix`	`Yeah`
`13:24.24`	`Kebinusan`	`I prefer life tap, priests never run out of mana`
`13:24.27`	`[Ammo]`	`on situation where you're low on health`
`13:24.30`	`[Ammo]`	`and can't tap`
`13:24.46`	`[Ammo]`	`and besides otherwise I'd put that point into 2/2 healthstone`
`13:24.46`	`[Ammo]`	`shrug`
`13:24.47`	`Neronix`	`The heal from death coil and dark pact mean I get 0 downtime`
`13:24.49`	`Iceroth`	`Kebinusan, our healers really hate locks who tap and don't bother healing`
`13:24.58`	`Iceroth`	`*drinking`
`13:25.10`	`steino`	`you should see haste`
`13:25.11`	`[Ammo]`	`I barely use mana drinks in raids`
`13:25.16`	`haste`	`huh?`
`13:25.16`	`steino`	`worst lifetapper ever`
`13:25.20`	`haste`	`:-----D`
`13:25.25`	`Kebinusan`	`eh, well hots and heavy runecloth bandages`
`13:25.27`	`Neronix`	`When I eventually (if ever. damn lack of time) start raiding, I won't forget to bandage`
`13:25.27`	`Tuplad`	`Iceroth: so what now ? :D`
`13:25.27`	`steino`	`"I GOT CRYSTAL WATER!"`
`13:25.43`	`Kebinusan`	`if Im not getting a hot, there is always drain life/siphon life/deathcoil`
`13:25.49`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`13:25.52`	`Neronix`	`those too`
`13:25.58`	`ckknight`	`haste, do you have any advice/opinions on AceComm?`
`13:26.03`	`Iceroth`	`Tuplad, i'll disable mobhealth2 support by default, i don't think i want to support 2 mob health addons`
`13:26.09`	`Iceroth`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3938`
`13:26.16`	`ckknight`	`specifically how you would want to interact with it`
`13:26.32`	`Neronix`	`drain is imba when you're specced for it and have enough damage gear`
`13:26.40`	`Neronix`	`I get a huge net gain of health :P`
`13:26.51`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah I think I drained for around 170 per tick`
`13:27.01`	`[Ammo]`	`but can't remember been a long time since I used it`
`13:27.11`	`Neronix`	`And on elites, I have a net loss about the same as a mail wearer`
`13:27.15`	`Kebinusan`	`its really lame though that there is no affliction talent to affect the staying power of our dots like reduced chance to be dispelled.. and so many broken talents like improved curse of agony and weakness`
`13:27.32`	`-FISKER_Q	`btw`
`13:27.41`	`-FISKER_Q	`is there any site with diff from 1.12 patch notes`
`13:27.46`	`-FISKER_Q	`haven't seen the new ones and stuff`
`13:28.00`	`Neronix`	`I only use weakness when I have tons of adds on me or when I'm running`
`13:28.15`	`Tuplad`	`Iceroth: kk`
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`13:28.28`	`Neronix`	`Agony, I never use ever since I changed my tactics`
`13:28.30`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah improved weakness though is just stupid`
`13:28.35`	`[Ammo]`	`in my new build I'll get 5/5 supression and lose some point in drain life`
`13:28.43`	`Kebinusan`	`and improved agony ... is an extra 64 damage over 24 seconds`
`13:28.53`	`[Ammo]`	`improved agony is worthless`
`13:28.59`	`Neronix`	`indeed`
`13:29.06`	`[Ammo]`	`the slowing curse is worthless`
`13:29.13`	`-FISKER_Q	`yeah`
`13:29.13`	`[Ammo]`	`at least for the depth in the tree and the 5 points`
`13:29.15`	`[Ammo]`	`or something`
`13:29.17`	`-FISKER_Q	`just death coil, dot dot and run`
`13:29.17`	`Kebinusan`	`eh, coex is kinda fun for pvp`
`13:29.18`	`-FISKER_Q	`:(`
`13:29.27`	`[Ammo]`	`coex sucks`
`13:29.54`	`-FISKER_Q	`imo dots should not count as combat :P`
`13:30.00`	`-FISKER_Q	`Kinda like rogues rupture`
`13:30.44`	`XLVII`	`unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleepunzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep`
`13:30.53`	`Kebinusan`	`Here is my current sm/ruin build, Ive been thinking of changing it a bit though to get 5/5 suppression`
`13:31.11`	`Kebinusan`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=AA0bVRbkAZZxx0tr0z`
`13:34.25`	`Neronix`	`I've just came up with a brilliant yet insane idea`
`13:34.42`	`Neronix`	`You know how we have to rip info out of a combat message?`
`13:34.54`	`Neronix`	`And how globalstrings are format strings?`
`13:35.09`	`Neronix`	`how about hooking string.format? :O`
`13:37.13`	`Tuplad`	`phyber: Core.lua:92: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot unregister event "UPDATE_INVENTORY_ALERTS". "Fizzle" is not registered with it.`
`13:37.15`	`Neronix`	`string.format = function(fmtstring, 1, 2, 3...) if stringlist[fmtstrng] then DoMagicstuffs() else old_stringformat(fmtstring, 1, 2, 3 ...)`
`13:38.31`	`Kebinusan`	`If I knew what you just said, I'd probably tell you what a great idea it is`
`13:38.53`	`ckknight`	`Neronix, you use Deformat.`
`13:39.22`	`Mikma`	`irooooon cheeef`
`13:39.24`	`Neronix`	`But my insane idea eliminates the need to reverse the process`
`13:39.27`	`ckknight`	`string.format isn't actually called by the program`
`13:39.31`	`Neronix`	`and keeps things fast`
`13:39.42`	`ckknight`	`the C function is called`
`13:39.46`	`Neronix`	`I see :(`
`13:42.35`	`haste`	`ckknight: not sure, throttling would be the main feature I'd be after`
`13:42.50`	`ckknight`	`haste, yea, but that's transparent`
`13:43.00`	`ckknight`	`I'm talking more about the API`
`13:43.18`	`CIA-11`	`03iceroth * r6117 10IceHUD/modules/TargetHealth.lua: Disabled MobHealth2 support as default (enable from TargetHealth settings)`
`13:43.29`	`haste`	`Did we get a prefix to the messages in 1.12?`
`13:43.41`	`haste`	`I haven't had time to look into that yet, oRA is the next on my list atm`
`13:43.42`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`13:44.23`	`Elkano`	`Iceroth, had been to lunch, sorry :( I've put a new revision online with some more debug output... I think I've found out what's going wrong, just have to proof my thoughts`
`13:44.28`	`haste`	`wouldn't registering of prefixes for addons be useful then? limit the handling of the event to AceComm`
`13:44.42`	`Iceroth`	`do i have to modify my .toc file if i want the revision number to update automatically or is there some "update $rev every time i commit something to"?`
`13:45.03`	`Iceroth`	`ok Elkano, i'll see if i can get it to act weird :)`
`13:45.19`	`Fritti`	`Iceroth: svn propset svn:keywords "Id Revision" foo.toc`
`13:45.22`	`Fritti`	`dunno how it goes with Tortoise`
`13:46.02`	`Iceroth`	`i do have that but it doesn't update if i don't commit any change to the toc file`
`13:47.40`	`Fritti`	`ah ok, I think you'll have to do a "dummy" commit before it'll update`
`13:48.13`	`Tuplad`	anany agUF users experience the same problem ? UnitClass.lua:1072: attempt to index field `ReputationWatchBar_Update' (a nil value) + the targetframe wont appea
`13:48.14`	`Tuplad`	`r`
`13:48.24`	`Fritti`	`not quite sure what people do to get it to update in that case`
`13:48.32`	`Elkano`	`Iceroth: maybe it's caused by an other addon using compost that isn't reclaiming it's tables correctly`
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`13:50.22`	`ckknight`	`haste, prefixes are basically implied`
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`13:51.22`	`CIA-11`	`03maia * r6118 10RosterLib-2.0/RosterLib-2.0.lua:`
`13:51.22`	`CIA-11`	`RosterLib: the event "RosterLib_RosterChanged" now fires properly when anyone`
`13:51.22`	`CIA-11`	`joins or leaves the party/raid, switches subgroup, has a new raidid or is`
`13:51.22`	`CIA-11`	`promoted/demoted. It'll pass the table of changed units as first argument.`
`13:52.43`	`ckknight`	`kaelten, hey`
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`13:54.34`	`Iceroth`	`can i whine about onebank fubar plugin? it doesn't remember "hide text" option.. or well, the tick stays away but after reloadui the text is back`
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`14:07.36`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6119 10ChatThrottleLib/ChatThrottleLib.lua: ChatThrottleLib - changed setn stuff, since it could mess up from a nil language. Upped minor version.`
`14:10.20`	`CIA-11`	`03moonsorrow * r6120 10XRS/ (XRS.lua XRS_BarClass.lua XRS_Defaults.lua XRS_Locales.lua):`
`14:10.20`	`CIA-11`	`XRS:`
`14:10.20`	`CIA-11`	`- Removed default bar config`
`14:10.21`	`CIA-11`	`- Profile saving/loading now works again`
`14:10.21`	`CIA-11`	`- Mana check now with UnitPowerType`
`14:10.22`	`CIA-11`	`- type 'blank' added for bars as spacer`
`14:11.37`	`Neronix`	`Does anyone use the longer display format in NS1Fu? (The one that separates text with " - " e.g. 123.4/1234 - 45.6/456)`
`14:14.08`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah but I dont display healing`
`14:14.18`	`Kebinusan`	`just for time - dps/dmg`
`14:14.31`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`morning`
`14:15.03`	`Kebinusan`	`I wouldnt miss the - alot though`
`14:16.17`	`Neronix`	`I'll leave it configurable`
`14:16.33`	`Neronix`	`but the Fu stuff is going to look messy`
`14:17.49`	`Kebinusan`	`ugh I cant believe this is so big... http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3976-1-bombhide.html warmup shows it using like 400kib on load`
`14:19.24`	`Kyahx`	`How is that possible?`
`14:19.40`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah I was asking myself that`
`14:20.12`	`Kyahx`	`Better question, why would it be useful :P`
`14:20.31`	`Kebinusan`	`so that ui elements dont interfere with casting bombs and such`
`14:20.37`	`Kyahx`	`eh`
`14:20.45`	`Kebinusan`	`if you're trying to cast behind you it can be a bit annoying at times`
`14:20.45`	`Kyahx`	`make a clean enough UI in the first place :P`
`14:20.53`	`Kyahx`	`true`
`14:21.15`	`Kebinusan`	`true enough I suppose, but there are always lil things that can get in the way, just was a neat idea so I downloaded it`
`14:21.24`	`Kebinusan`	`then promptly disabled it and decided it wasnt worth the memory`
`14:21.55`	`Kyahx`	`there has got to be a cleaner way of doing it thou`
`14:21.58`	`Kyahx`	`it can't be that damn hard`
`14:27.08`	`kaybe`	`someone knows how I can get the status whether I am afk or dnd flagged??`
`14:27.34`	`ckknight`	`kaybe, grammar is your friend`
`14:28.48`	`kaybe`	`sometimes`
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`14:32.33`	`Tuplad`	`~morning Nightdew`
`14:32.42`	`purl`	`ACTION bends space and time, trapping Nightdew in a universe of eternal monday mornings`
`14:33.02`	`Kyahx`	`what an unpleasent thought =(`
`14:33.09`	`CIA-11`	`03icetrain * r6121 10XRS/XRS.toc: XRS: Typo in TOC`
`14:33.26`	`Nightdew`	`yeah "thanks" Tuplad`
`14:35.23`	`Gngsk`	...erface\MrPlow\FuBarPlugin\FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua:1395: attempt to index global `FuBar' (a nil value)
`14:35.54`	`ckknight`	`feel free to file a bug`
`14:36.07`	`Gngsk`	`okay`
`14:37.17`	`Gngsk`	`I'd guess it has something do with kergoth's commit`
`14:38.27`	`Tuplad`	`Gngsk: you're using FuBar2, just so you know :)`
`14:38.30`	`Tuplad`	`if it's off svn`
`14:38.52`	`Gngsk`	`nah, I didn't update FuBar`
`14:40.11`	`Gngsk`	`the issue happens to be in a toon where I don't actually have FuBar enabled`
`14:40.56`	`Tuplad`	`:o`
`14:41.00`	`Tuplad`	`then it's mrplow`
`14:41.08`	`Tuplad`	`MrPlow has a built in FuBar thingie`
`14:43.59`	`CIA-11`	`03shyva 07Ace2 * r6122 10BigWigs/ (AQ40/BugFamily.lua BigWigs.toc Options.lua):`
`14:43.59`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs (Ace2 Branch):`
`14:43.59`	`CIA-11`	`- Small change to The Bug Family.`
`14:43.59`	`CIA-11`	`- You can now click the Fubar icon to reboot all running boss modules.`
`14:43.59`	`CIA-11`	`- Running boss modules are shown in the tooltip.`
`14:46.28`	`Saroz`	`is the bigwigs ace2 mod stable?`
`14:46.35`	`teedog`	`ooo nice change`
`14:46.50`	`teedog`	`it runs well for me, Saroz`
`14:47.13`	`Shyva`	`stable enough :p`
`14:48.40`	`Kebinusan`	`Shyva any idea why the fubar icon doesnt have options to disable the text and adjust the alignment to left/right/center?`
`14:49.21`	`Shyva`	`Becuase fubarplugin2.0 doesn't add them I think`
`14:49.37`	`ckknight`	`yea, it will later`
`14:49.48`	`Kebinusan`	`ah good reason`
`14:50.35`	`Kyahx`	`Hmm, DueceCommander bails out on me with a "desc cannot be 0-lenght string" error from IDCard =(`
`14:59.54`	`CIA-11`	`03shyva 07Ace2 * r6123 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc:`
`14:59.54`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs (Ace2 Branch):`
`14:59.54`	`CIA-11`	`- Small change to the fubar strings.`
`15:04.54`	`CIA-11`	`03kyahx * r6124 10IDCard/IDCard.toc: IDCard: Added a 'Notes' field to the toc so DeuceCommander dosen't blow up.`
`15:06.23`	`Gngsk`	`Filed a bug report. Seems it was introduced in revision 5654.`
`15:15.51`	`Saroz`	`nub question: is it possible to enum the values you are allowed to pass to a AceChatCmd?`
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`15:40.41`	`haste`	`Kyahx: shouldn't you edit DeuceCommander and prevent it from blowing up :p ?`
`15:40.50`	`Mikma`	`:D`
`15:40.55`	`Kyahx`	`Nah :P`
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`15:41.02`	`Kyahx`	`Mods should always have a 'Notes' field anyways`
`15:41.11`	`Kyahx`	`descibing WTF they do`
`15:41.31`	`Kyahx`	`:)`
`15:46.46`	`CIA-11`	`03kyahx * r6125 10DeuceCommander/DeuceCommander.lua: DeuceCommander: No longer blows up due to addons with no description.`
`15:46.53`	`haste`	`:-P`
`15:46.56`	`Kyahx`	`ok maybe your right`
`15:47.57`	`Tain`	`Yeah DeuceCommander should be able to handle that.`
`15:49.31`	`Fritti`	`ok, anyone able to help me with RegisterDefaults? I think I'm doing something stupid but I can't say what`
`15:49.34`	`Fritti`	`http://ace.pastebin.ca/105323`
`15:49.57`	`Mikma`	`hmmm!`
`15:49.58`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1762.msg32081.html#msg32081`
`15:50.05`	`Mikma`	`i had this issue too couple of times`
`15:50.32`	`Kyahx`	`I thought that was fixed?`
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`15:50.54`	`Mikma`	`i'm not sure`
`15:51.02`	`Mikma`	`it didn't work at start but later it did`
`15:51.37`	`Kyahx`	`Fritti: I thought get and set functions had to actually be functions?`
`15:51.51`	`Fritti`	`not if you set a handler object (at the top)`
`15:51.56`	`Fritti`	`then methods will be called`
`15:51.59`	`Kyahx`	`ah`
`15:52.08`	`Kyahx`	`I did not know that :P I've only seen differantly`
`15:52.08`	`Fritti`	`but the issue is that /tst foo is not persisting across reloads`
`15:52.29`	`Fritti`	`maybe because I'm setting it to nil...`
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`15:53.21`	`Fritti`	`yep! that's it. doh.`
`15:53.45`	`Fritti`	`I thought it was always wise to use true/nil instead of true/false?`
`15:54.05`	`Fritti`	`or am I led astray by Rowne's Olde Tutorials ?`
`15:54.57`	`teedog`	`question for BW devs. would it be possible to only mark mana-users with Burning Adrenalin in the Vael right? often times i find that the skull icon disappears from someone quickly because the tank got BA. the tank doesn't move so he/she doesn't have to be marked`
`15:55.15`	`teedog`	`Vael fight*`
`16:01.29`	`CIA-11`	`03kyahx * r6126 10DeuceCommander/DeuceCommander.lua: DeuceCommander DeuceCommander: No longer blows up due to addons with no description for real this time.`
`16:02.11`	`Kyahx`	`:)`
`16:03.33`	`Kyahx`	`BUFX had a 0-lengh description in it too`
`16:03.34`	`Kyahx`	`grrr`
`16:03.40`	`Kyahx`	`but now all is well`
`16:03.45`	`haste`	`:-D`
`16:04.10`	`Kyahx`	`and now I get rid of it and go back to oUF`
`16:05.09`	`Mikma`	`:D`
`16:06.30`	`haste`	`'`
`16:06.32`	`haste`	`:D`
`16:08.00`	`Kyahx`	`portraits are fugly`
`16:08.43`	`haste`	`portraits are always fugly`
`16:09.24`	`Kyahx`	`bah, I switch back and fourth between oUF and agUF daily, I can't decide =(`
`16:09.30`	`Kyahx`	`haste: go finish oUF so I can keep it`
`16:09.52`	`Kyahx`	`:P`
`16:09.52`	`Mikma`	`aguf error :P just like described in wowace.com :P`
`16:10.05`	`haste`	`I'm actually working on oCB atm :p`
`16:10.19`	`haste`	`and my next creation :p`
`16:10.25`	`Mikma`	`which is?`
`16:10.34`	`Kyahx`	`oRA2 ready for 1.12? :D`
`16:10.37`	`Kyahx`	`I wish :P`
`16:10.40`	`haste`	`a cooldown addon which uses CandyBars for example`
`16:10.51`	`haste`	`oRA2 is after oCB2 on my list :p`
`16:11.08`	`haste`	`I don't raid at all, so it's rather impossible to force myself to fix something I don't use, before something I do use`
`16:11.18`	`Kyahx`	`understandable :)`
`16:11.48`	`Kyahx`	`is the SendAddon code for oRA1 ready atelast? for 1.12 that is`
`16:12.15`	`teedog`	`how was oRA born if you don't raid at all? O_o`
`16:12.27`	`haste`	`teedog: I did before :p`
`16:12.35`	`haste`	`it's 1.5 month since I've raided now tho'`
`16:12.41`	`Mikma`	`zomg wtf, +22 int has glow?`
`16:12.42`	`teedog`	`ah`
`16:13.23`	`haste`	`Kyahx: hopefully, it will never be, and oRA2 will be complete before 1.12`
`16:13.49`	`haste`	`ammo has done a great job on oRA2 so far`
`16:15.46`	`phyber`	`Tuplad: I think AceEvents screwed something up for you to get that error`
`16:15.56`	`phyber`	`since Fizzle is registered with it.`
`16:16.05`	`Kyahx`	`Mikma: +22 int has glowed for a long time :P`
`16:16.29`	`hyperChipmunk`	`+25agi was the one that didn't until 1.11`
`16:16.49`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I logged on to find my GM Staff horse looking quite diseased`
`16:17.22`	`haste`	`;D`
`16:17.28`	`Tuplad`	`phyber: what to do ?`
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`16:18.00`	`Kyahx`	`hyperChipmunk: Why do you have the GM staff with int on it o.O`
`16:18.18`	`hyperChipmunk`	`agi`
`16:18.22`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx: i have never noticed it glows as white`
`16:18.26`	`Kyahx`	`er, tahts what I ment`
`16:18.28`	`Kyahx`	`agi`
`16:18.35`	`Kyahx`	`Why agility on a caster staf...`
`16:18.36`	`hyperChipmunk`	`well, the GM 2 handers have 41 sta`
`16:18.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`the melee ones have a bunch of str and +1 crit`
`16:19.02`	`hyperChipmunk`	`the staff has int and +spell damage/healing`
`16:19.07`	`Kyahx`	`Hunter weapon?`
`16:19.19`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, the str is useless to me`
`16:19.22`	`Kyahx`	`facepalm`
`16:19.26`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and I don't melee with it`
`16:19.32`	`Kyahx`	`haha`
`16:19.37`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I swap in the glaive or handblades to melee`
`16:19.39`	`*** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)`
`16:19.55`	`Kyahx`	`grinding PvP sucks =(`
`16:19.57`	`haste`	`for some reason`
`16:20.05`	`haste`	`I just remembered a hunter PvP video`
`16:20.06`	`Kyahx`	`I'm up to rank 10`
`16:20.07`	`haste`	`with ONLY melee`
`16:20.21`	`-FISKER_Q	`we got a hunter with untamed blade`
`16:20.27`	`-FISKER_Q	`he does some good raptor strikes with it`
`16:20.30`	`-FISKER_Q	`and he's survival specced`
`16:20.38`	`-FISKER_Q	`so doesn't really matter with the deadzone pretty much`
`16:20.47`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I'm survival, too`
`16:21.04`	`hyperChipmunk`	`1300dmg raptorstrikes ftw`
`16:21.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`with glaive`
`16:21.52`	`hyperChipmunk`	`a mage blinking into my deadzone gets that in the face`
`16:23.25`	`Amadeo`	`Now 1300 crit me`
`16:23.49`	`Kyahx`	`:)`
`16:23.54`	`CIA-11`	`03joshborke * r6127 10HealthMon/HealthMon.lua:`
`16:23.54`	`CIA-11`	`HealthMon:`
`16:23.54`	`CIA-11`	`- making even more progress! woot!`
`16:23.57`	`-FISKER_Q	`you're no mage!`
`16:24.08`	`Kyahx`	`I can pretend im a mage`
`16:24.13`	`Kyahx`	`:p`
`16:24.41`	`-FISKER_Q	`what's healthmon?`
`16:24.48`	`-FISKER_Q	`some kind of mobinfo/mobhealth alternative?`
`16:25.03`	`Kyahx`	`Party heal cast timers turbo pew`
`16:25.12`	`Kyahx`	`Atleast I think thats what it is`
`16:25.23`	`-FISKER_Q	`oh`
`16:26.04`	`Kyahx`	`Im starving`
`16:26.51`	`Mikma`	`hehe`
`16:26.52`	`Mikma`	`http://slate.kaasu.org/wow/no_cow.jpg`
`16:26.59`	`Mikma`	`my friend likes to do pictures :D`
`16:27.00`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`-FISKER_Q: I lied, it sounds like a DPS/HPS graph
`16:27.07`	`-FISKER_Q	`liar!`
`16:27.17`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`http://svn.wowace.com/svnweb/index.cgi/root/view/trunk/HealthMon/about.txt`
`16:27.22`	`-FISKER_Q	`now i'm gonna cry myself to sleep`
`16:27.36`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Mikma: holy cow!`
`16:28.12`	`Mikma`	`:D`
`16:28.25`	`Mikma`	`http://slate.kaasu.org/wow/WoWScrnShot_041106_214121.jpg`
`16:28.31`	`Mikma`	`we tried to get dedica into outlands ;)`
`16:29.04`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`Mikma: http://objection.4camp.net/go.php?n=497272`
`16:29.16`	`haste`	`hmm`
`16:29.26`	`haste`	`going to end up using many libs on the cooldown addon :p`
`16:29.36`	`Mikma`	`hey, really, what's up with the Stonetalon Mountains?`
`16:29.41`	`Mikma`	`http://slate.kaasu.org/wow/WoWScrnShot_040706_011109.jpg`
`16:29.50`	`Mikma`	`this happened to Dedica ... the boat sailed to Stonetalon :D`
`16:30.08`	`cladhaire`	`hahahah`
`16:30.09`	`cladhaire`	`nice`
`16:30.13`	`haste`	`## OptionalDeps: Ace2, GratuityLib, DewdropLib, PaintChipsLib, CandyBar, Deformat-2.0`
`16:30.16`	`haste`	`so far :<`
`16:30.57`	`Mikma`	`lol hehehehe`
`16:31.01`	`Mikma`	`this is rather funny: http://slate.kaasu.org/wow/WoWScrnShot_032606_023717.jpg`
`16:31.08`	`Mikma`	`(see me dancing there) :D`
`16:31.17`	`*** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)`
`16:31.54`	`Amadeo`	`eww, PvE`
`16:31.55`	`Amadeo`	`:)`
`16:32.03`	`Mikma`	`yeap, PvE`
`16:32.20`	`Mikma`	`anyone knows where this place is? :) http://slate.kaasu.org/wow/WoWScrnShot_032606_020436.jpg`
`16:33.20`	`Amadeo`	`Desolace`
`16:33.27`	`Mikma`	`negative :)`
`16:34.05`	`phyber`	`Kyahx\|afk: http://objection.4camp.net/go.php?n=497400`
`16:34.07`	`phyber`	`;)`
`16:34.34`	`Mikma`	`hahahaha :D`
`16:34.35`	`phyber`	`or through the deadmines portal. whatever you kids are doing these days.`
`16:34.46`	`Mikma`	`phyber: neither :)`
`16:34.58`	`phyber`	`covered by whatever ;)`
`16:34.58`	`Amadeo`	`exploring's never been my thing`
`16:35.03`	`Amadeo`	`because there's nothing to find`
`16:35.09`	`Mikma`	`i love exploration`
`16:35.12`	`Amadeo`	`just empty textures`
`16:35.22`	`Amadeo`	`If someone finds a vendor that sells epics thorugh exploring, let me know`
`16:35.28`	`Amadeo`	`but otherwise, I'd rather be killing someone`
`16:35.28`	`Amadeo`	`:D`
`16:35.28`	`phyber`	`Amadeo: not true. Caverns of Time look amazing.`
`16:35.48`	`Amadeo`	`what do you kill in CoT?`
`16:36.03`	`phyber`	`nothing. You just look at the nice surroundings :)`
`16:36.06`	`Amadeo`	`See!`
`16:36.30`	`Mikma`	`Cavers of Time .. http://slate.kaasu.org/wow/WoWScrnShot_040106_223039.jpg`
`16:36.31`	`Mikma`	`;)`
`16:36.38`	`phyber`	`oh, you mean "the place is empty" not "the textures don't have pretty colours"`
`16:36.54`	`haste`	`Mikma: when I was at that spot - it was bugged as hell :p`
`16:37.03`	`haste`	`like... WUPS falling through the world`
`16:37.29`	`Amadeo`	`yeah`
`16:37.32`	`Mikma`	`haste: the entrance is bugged, you can fall throught ground there but i dunno is it possible anywhere else`
`16:37.47`	`haste`	`Mikma: I did it at that spot ;D`
`16:37.58`	`haste`	`I couldn't see the house like that either so`
`16:38.07`	`haste`	`I could see the fence, and the trees`
`16:38.09`	`haste`	`and the chair inside!`
`16:38.10`	`Amadeo`	`it looks like desolace to me, so I don't see anything spectacular about it :P`
`16:38.11`	`Mikma`	`haste: hmm in 1.10 CoT got textures`
`16:38.28`	`haste`	`Mikma: I was there in.. uhm... very long since :p`
`16:38.39`	`*** join/#wowace steino_ (n=stein-iv@ti531210a080-0266.bb.online.no)`
`16:38.43`	`Mikma`	`aye i haven't been there too since 1.10`
`16:39.23`	`phyber`	`Iceroth: can you put the addon name in your commits? :/`
`16:39.26`	`Mikma`	`hehe.. http://wow.reaktio.net/gm.jpg http://wow.reaktio.net/gm2.jpg`
`16:39.45`	`Mikma`	`logs like these can happen when you delete your HS and jump into a whole and make a ticket`
`16:40.55`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`16:41.33`	`Mikma`	`that was the time i had 1 week time left to play and i wanted to get atleast a 3h ban :)`
`16:42.33`	`haste`	`I didn't get banned when I got stuck in the portal in Stormwind`
`16:42.42`	`haste`	`the one under that is`
`16:43.39`	`-FISKER_Q	`wow Mikma`
`16:43.43`	`-FISKER_Q	`that must have been on the us server`
`16:44.06`	`Mikma`	`-FISKER_Q: nope, EU servers (notice my sucky english at some points here)
`16:44.12`	`Saroz`	`bagFu doesn't work with Fubar Ace2?`
`16:44.12`	`-FISKER_Q	`:O`
`16:44.18`	`-FISKER_Q	`but that's impossible on the eu servers`
`16:44.32`	`haste`	`how is it impossible?`
`16:45.07`	`-FISKER_Q	`because eu customer service usually sucks`
`16:45.24`	`hyperChipmunk`	`usually + impossible does not compute`
`16:45.33`	`Mikma`	`-FISKER_Q: that's from Nordrassil EU. I haven't never seen such a good customerservice in game than in that server. and it's really _FAST_ too
`16:45.42`	`Mikma`	`sometimes it's like 10mins from ticket`
`16:45.43`	`-FISKER_Q	`:(`
`16:45.58`	`-FISKER_Q	`last time i made a ticket i was falling under the world`
`16:46.06`	`-FISKER_Q	`and i would keep flying`
`16:46.10`	`-FISKER_Q	`so i did that for like 3 hours`
`16:46.19`	`-FISKER_Q	`then i was told you could just queue up in bg and get out (damnit)`
`16:46.27`	`Mikma`	`hehe yeah`
`16:46.32`	`Mikma`	`or ask a warlock to summon you ;)`
`16:46.35`	`hyperChipmunk`	`assuming your queue is any faster`
`16:46.43`	`-FISKER_Q	`so i did that an the day after i was told i could use the unstuck command or hearthstone if i was stuck`
`16:46.43`	`haste`	`hyperChipmunk: horde ftw! :D`
`16:46.53`	`haste`	`It's like: queue "want to join?"`
`16:47.07`	`-FISKER_Q	`(btw i was flying eternally so i couldn't use any because of "already moving")`
`16:47.32`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, it's happened to me too`
`16:47.40`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I eventually did land, about an hour later`
`16:47.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`then I walked to the ocean and drowned`
`16:48.20`	`-FISKER_Q	`yeah i got to some ocean like stuff too`
`16:48.40`	`-FISKER_Q	`but i didnt hang on`
`16:48.48`	`haste`	`updating KCI is the most stupid thing I've ever done :p`
`16:48.49`	`-FISKER_Q	`cause i was like moving around and stuff because i was bored :P`
`16:48.54`	`haste`	`hello tooltips!`
`16:49.01`	`haste`	`and random money on every tooltip ^^`
`16:49.34`	`Mikma`	`hehe`
`16:49.52`	`haste`	`uhm, what the hell`
`16:50.27`	`haste`	`suddenly it worked :p`
`16:55.52`	`CIA-11`	`03phyber * r6128 10XPBarNone/ (Core.lua Textures/perl.tga Textures/striped.tga):`
`16:55.52`	`CIA-11`	`XPBarNone:`
`16:55.52`	`CIA-11`	`- Added Striped and Perl textures.`
`17:04.06`	`phyber`	`is the XRS maintainer in?`
`17:04.07`	`phyber`	BarClass.lua:86: bad argument #1 to `strlen' (string expected, got nil) ---
`17:04.07`	`phyber`	XRS.lua:407: attempt to index field `life' (a nil value) ---
`17:04.08`	`phyber`	XRS.lua:436: attempt to index field `mana' (a nil value)
`17:04.14`	`phyber`	`just borked when I joined a raid ;)`
`17:05.28`	`haste`	`phyber: MoonSorrow is never on IRC`
`17:05.30`	`haste`	`~seen moonsorrow`
`17:05.32`	`purl`	`moonsorrow <~root@ns.tts.ro> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 640d 9h 17m 52s ago, saying: 'hello... i'm having a problem with calls from h323 side to SIP side... it segfaults my asterisk and i found almost no solution on google and newsgroups... any ideas ?'.`
`17:05.46`	`haste`	`probably not the same person either :p`
`17:06.31`	`phyber`	`ahh :/`
`17:06.39`	`phyber`	`that sucks.`
`17:06.51`	`haste`	`zomg, I just got another idea`
`17:10.21`	`phyber`	`:sitenote: Teknicolor rocks.`
`17:10.27`	`phyber`	`s/site/side/`
`17:15.37`	`Mikma`	`ooh`
`17:15.53`	`Mikma`	`haven't noticed it, gotta try it`
`17:16.23`	`*** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)`
`17:18.27`	`phyber`	`Mikma: it's great. I think it just needs a tweak to rescan the guildroster when someone comes online.`
`17:18.33`	`phyber`	`those people don't seem to get coloured.`
`17:18.47`	`Fritti`	`note: do not use 'Frame:SetFrameLevel(10000000)'`
`17:19.08`	`phyber`	`that is quite a high frame.`
`17:19.17`	`Fritti`	`too high for WoW's comfort`
`17:19.33`	`Mikma`	`Tek: teknicolor -> <2018> <phyber> Mikma: it's great. I think it just needs a tweak to rescan the guildroster when someone comes online. <2018> <phyber> those people don't seem to get coloured.`
`17:19.39`	`Fritti`	`and it didn't even bring my button above the others cries`
`17:20.58`	`Amadeo`	`brb`
`17:21.00`	`*** part/#wowace Amadeo (i=amadeo@c-69-140-96-126.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`17:22.44`	`*** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r43h96.res.gatech.edu)`
`17:27.40`	`*** join/#wowace blomma (n=blomma@c-199b72d5.014-202-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)`
`17:28.48`	`*** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)`
`17:42.07`	`Nightdew`	`need some help with english`
`17:42.20`	`Nightdew`	`when you cast a spell and get hit there is a "delay"`
`17:42.40`	`Nightdew`	`when channel and get hit your duration get shortened which is also called... "xxx" ?`
`17:43.07`	`hyperChipmunk`	`hm`
`17:43.28`	`Nightdew`	`something other than "cheated" ;)`
`17:43.36`	`cladhaire`	`channeling was disrupted?`
`17:43.38`	`cladhaire`	`hrm.`
`17:43.46`	`Mikma`	`so, how is the teknicolor supposed to work? :P`
`17:43.49`	`Mikma`	`don't see any colored names`
`17:44.06`	`Nightdew`	`disruption might work`
`17:44.18`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: There's anti-noob code.`
`17:44.19`	`cladhaire`	`sorry`
`17:44.28`	`Mikma`	`god damn`
`17:44.33`	`Mikma`	`sucky addon, delete!`
`17:44.37`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`17:44.59`	`Mikma`	`phew`
`17:45.05`	`Mikma`	`didn't have to /who everyone :P`
`17:45.14`	`Mikma`	`is enough if i select them at guildlist`
`17:48.31`	`JoshBorke`	`wow, warriors really do look like puke`
`17:52.46`	`haste`	`okey, I'm tired of crashing my game client`
`17:58.25`	`Iceroth`	`phyber, ah, i've completely forgatten that name in commits thing though i read it a while ago..`
`17:59.55`	`Iceroth`	`though i'm only maintaining 1 addon atm so if you know what it is, shouldn't be too much of a problem :)`
`18:00.04`	`Iceroth`	`but anyhow, you are right, gotta remember from now on`
`18:00.48`	`Fritti`	`b`
`18:00.50`	`Fritti`	`meh`
`18:00.54`	`haste`	`c`
`18:01.38`	`Fritti`	`old joke ;-) it's actually my new keyboard combined with my KVM switch (ctrl ctrl b for other comp, new keyboard control is not yet worn in)`
`18:01.40`	`*** join/#wowace snurre (n=snurre@AVelizy-153-1-58-57.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`18:04.27`	`teedog`	`using the latest AGUF from SVN, my Target and ToT frames have disappeared. anyone know how i can get them back?`
`18:04.58`	`Mikma`	`ag should come online already`
`18:05.31`	`teedog`	`guess i should take oUF for a whirl in the meantime :)`
`18:07.24`	`Mikma`	`teedog: oh right, they are gone`
`18:07.33`	`Mikma`	`and i get a clique error`
`18:07.35`	`haste`	`hah! I can change my Video Options in-game now!`
`18:07.41`	`haste`	`while running WoW under Linux`
`18:07.44`	`haste`	`without it crashing`
`18:07.48`	`Mikma`	`haste: cool :)`
`18:07.48`	`cladhaire`	`haste: yay!`
`18:07.53`	`haste`	`but I have to restart my client ^^`
`18:08.01`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: it's either aguf or clique error but.. :`
`18:08.01`	`haste`	`since I kill of the three functions that make it crash`
`18:08.15`	`cladhaire`	`huh?`
`18:08.21`	`cladhaire`	`wtf are you talking about`
`18:08.35`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: clicking Aguf party/player and i get Cligue_agUnitFrames.lua:37: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)`
`18:08.35`	`haste`	`I think it's more to come clad`
`18:08.45`	`cladhaire`	`ok`
`18:08.47`	`cladhaire`	`whats on that line?`
`18:08.50`	`Mikma`	`checking`
`18:09.03`	`cladhaire`	`ag handles that plugin`
`18:09.06`	`cladhaire`	`and i dont use aguf;`
`18:09.19`	`Mikma`	`aUF.classes[string.gsub(this:GetName(),"aUF","")]:OnClickOld(button)`
`18:09.29`	`cladhaire`	`oh wow..`
`18:09.33`	`cladhaire`	`he's doing that retardedly`
`18:09.36`	`cladhaire`	`umm`
`18:09.38`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`18:09.39`	`Mikma`	`:D`
`18:09.40`	`cladhaire`	`you'll have to ask him`
`18:09.44`	`cladhaire`	`but thats horribly convoluted.`
`18:09.44`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`18:09.48`	`cladhaire`	`unit frams are VERY simple.`
`18:09.48`	`Mikma`	`the mofo should come online first`
`18:13.18`	`haste`	`okey, what should I call this little addon?`
`18:13.43`	`Kyahx`	`haste: what's it do?`
`18:13.45`	`Mikma`	`haste: what does it do`
`18:14.05`	`haste`	`It makes me able to change the in-game Video settings`
`18:14.07`	`haste`	`as a Linux user`
`18:14.12`	`haste`	`without crashing the client`
`18:14.18`	`haste`	`and getting the setting I changed cleared`
`18:14.25`	`Mikma`	`tuxgfx`
`18:16.24`	`*** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=chatzill@44.80-202-38.nextgentel.com)`
`18:16.57`	`Mikma`	`so Teknicolor doesn't save settings anywhere`
`18:18.37`	`JoshBorke`	`haste: does oUF display damage done to a unit on their portrait if you have the portrait shown?`
`18:18.39`	`Saroz`	`hrrrm, fubar2 = lowest mem usage my UI has ever had`
`18:18.40`	`Saroz`	`gg`
`18:18.45`	`haste`	`JoshBorke: no`
`18:18.57`	`Mikma`	`seems like it wasn't a good idfea to update aguf + clique today, ag should comeand fix the error already`
`18:18.58`	`haste`	`Saroz: and that's how low?`
`18:19.07`	`Saroz`	`25.9 atm :)`
`18:19.23`	`Saroz`	`biggest addon: itemsync :/`
`18:19.29`	`Mikma`	`ewww`
`18:19.29`	`haste`	`that's like.. the dobble of what I have :p`
`18:19.33`	`Mikma`	`try Ludwig!`
`18:19.34`	`Saroz`	`longest: fubar-combat-1.2`
`18:19.38`	`Mikma`	`ludwig is LOVE :D`
`18:19.49`	`Saroz`	`ludwig?`
`18:20.11`	`phyber`	`what's gone wrong if I manage to break /ora? I now get....`
`18:20.13`	`phyber`	AceChatCmd.lua:230: bad argument #3 to `format' (string expected, got table)
`18:20.22`	`haste`	`Biggest addon: BigWigs (735 KiB), Longest addon: WitchHunt`
`18:20.37`	`haste`	`phyber: oRA_MainTankUI breaks it`
`18:20.40`	`haste`	`for some reason`
`18:20.43`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5174`
`18:20.49`	`Mikma`	`say hello to ludwig :)`
`18:20.50`	`Saroz`	`fubar-combat-1.2 is a big mofo`
`18:21.13`	`phyber`	`haste: I'm not using MainTanksUI. This is with oRA_Version`
`18:21.18`	`phyber`	`which I finally bothered to mkae.`
`18:21.27`	`haste`	`phyber: then you did something wrong!`
`18:21.37`	`Mikma`	`oRA_MainTankFrames needs a FuBar options`
`18:21.49`	`Saroz`	`"Ludwig is an item link database mod based on GetLink. Ludwig is not dependent on saved variables, and doesn't require the user to do anything special in order to collect data."`
`18:21.51`	`Saroz`	`uhm, how?`
`18:22.00`	`cladhaire`	`Saroz: item cache`
`18:22.10`	`Saroz`	`hrrrrm, interesting`
`18:22.15`	`Saroz`	`bad if you clear cache`
`18:22.25`	`cladhaire`	`it gets rebuilt very quickly =)`
`18:22.26`	`Mikma`	`it really is nice and low resource too`
`18:22.30`	`Mikma`	`sellvalues is a plus too :)`
`18:22.32`	`Saroz`	`nice, gonna use it`
`18:22.58`	`Mikma`	`ludwig 116KiB ludwig_sellvalue 38KiB`
`18:23.30`	`Saroz`	`itemsync: 2032kb`
`18:23.31`	`Saroz`	`gg`
`18:23.37`	`phyber`	`haste: no doubt :)`
`18:23.50`	`Mikma`	`phyber: zoning: Fizzle/Core.lua:92: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot unregister event 'UPDATE_INVENTORY_ALERTS'. "Fizzle" is not registered with it.`
`18:23.53`	`haste`	`also, why not make it a oRA2 addon right away?`
`18:24.01`	`phyber`	`Mikma: try updating AceEvents/Hook.`
`18:24.03`	`haste`	`I'm probably starting on the task of completing it tomorrow`
`18:24.11`	`Mikma`	`phyber: <o_`
`18:24.14`	`phyber`	`I'm pretty sure that's not a Fizzle issue. I AM registered with that event.`
`18:24.31`	`Mikma`	`i think i should get the Ace2 as an addon`
`18:25.03`	`Saroz`	`AceChatCmd, has that thing changed in ace2?`
`18:25.10`	`haste`	`yes`
`18:25.14`	`haste`	`it has changed quite a lot :p`
`18:25.19`	`Saroz`	`any docs?`
`18:25.30`	`hyperChipmunk`	`wikis for everything`
`18:25.32`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it's AceConsole now`
`18:25.35`	`Saroz`	`oh`
`18:25.37`	`haste`	`http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceConsole-2.0_API_Documentation`
`18:25.40`	`Saroz`	`nice, ty`
`18:25.59`	`*** join/#wowace Amadeo (i=amadeo@c-69-140-96-126.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`18:26.03`	`Amadeo`	`Ok, it's settled, for sure`
`18:26.07`	`haste`	`Okey, what if I call it "ApplyToForehead" ?`
`18:26.09`	`Amadeo`	`Druids == Most overpowered class in WoW, by far`
`18:26.09`	`Amadeo`	`:P`
`18:26.14`	`Fritti`	`hrm. is frame:IsUserPlaced() somehow not loaded at OnEnable time?`
`18:27.09`	`Mikma`	`Amadeo: i agree, when used correctly it's almost unkillable ;)`
`18:27.22`	`Saroz`	`ok, Ludwig owns`
`18:27.29`	`CIA-11`	`03phyber * r6129 10oRA_Version/ (5 files):`
`18:27.29`	`CIA-11`	`oRA_Version:`
`18:27.29`	`CIA-11`	`- Mimics CTRA /raversion.`
`18:27.30`	`CIA-11`	`- Something is still borked. Find it and win a prize[1]!`
`18:27.30`	`CIA-11`	`- [1] Giving of prize may be exaggerated.`
`18:27.31`	`*** join/#wowace Mikk (i=bofh@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com)`
`18:28.14`	`Kyahx`	`haha, yay`
`18:28.22`	`Kyahx`	`I've ment to do that for a while :P now I dont have to`
`18:28.58`	`phyber`	`Kyahx: :)`
`18:29.09`	`phyber`	`I need to get rid of the .xml, then it's all good :)`
`18:29.14`	`phyber`	`I'll do that after this raid, I guess.`
`18:29.49`	`Saroz`	`Mikma: When you seach in Ludwig, you can't get your cursor out of the search field, so you can't link an item to people, that kindda sucks`
`18:30.06`	`Mikma`	`Saroz: i was able to link them`
`18:30.18`	`phyber`	`well, something is borked. but it just breaks /ora. everythign still works though :)`
`18:30.21`	`Mikma`	`but it doesn't have a protect tho about the linking`
`18:30.22`	`Saroz`	`your cursor isnt stuck in the input field?`
`18:31.12`	`Mikma`	`i just click the "General" tab on chat and then it works when you press enter :)`
`18:31.19`	`Saroz`	`lol :)`
`18:32.24`	`Amadeo`	`What class besides Warlock can kill a good Feral Druid?`
`18:32.30`	`Amadeo`	`Mage maybe?`
`18:32.59`	`Mikma`	`shaman is also nasty`
`18:33.08`	`vhaarr`	`anyone having problems with ag_UF not showing target and ToT frames?`
`18:33.08`	`Amadeo`	`Probably only Elemental Shaman`
`18:33.09`	`phyber`	`http://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_072906_193052.jpg`
`18:33.11`	`vhaarr`	`latest revision`
`18:33.17`	`Mikma`	`i've had my driod *nalraped by shaman with totems in BG`
`18:33.27`	`Mikma`	`vhaarr: me`
`18:33.30`	`Amadeo`	`Mikma: 60's with epics?`
`18:33.38`	`Amadeo`	`vhaarr: I'm using BUFX right now`
`18:33.45`	`vhaarr`	`okay so it's not just me`
`18:33.45`	`Mikma`	`Amadeo: negative, lvl 30-39 bg`
`18:33.47`	`vhaarr`	`BUFX?`
`18:34.00`	`Amadeo`	`Just testing it out`
`18:34.01`	`Amadeo`	`http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info5198-BUFX.html`
`18:34.33`	`vhaarr`	`god that looks awful`
`18:34.35`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`18:34.38`	`Mikma`	`:D`
`18:34.42`	`ckknight_`	`Mikma, use my branch of Teknicolor`
`18:34.46`	`Saroz`	`AceConsole is pretty pwnage, which addons use it? (need something to look at)`
`18:34.51`	`Amadeo`	`vhaarr: It's only 500KiB with Ace2 libs loading first`
`18:35.16`	`Amadeo`	`Mikma: I'm talking about when they get 10,000 armor in Bear form and all melee hits are 120 and under, even with my Ancient Qiraji Ripper on PTR :P`
`18:35.22`	`Mikma`	`ckknight_: will do`
`18:35.27`	`Amadeo`	`while they hit you back for 900-1200 Maul crits :P`
`18:35.39`	`ckknight_`	`Saroz, many do`
`18:35.46`	`Saroz`	`example?`
`18:35.46`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`18:35.55`	`ckknight`	`Saroz, um... FuBar-2.0`
`18:35.59`	`Mikma`	`Amadeo: ok then i have no idea :) will usually take 2-3 persons to kill a feralbear`
`18:36.06`	`Amadeo`	`vhaarr: I'm using it while I wait for agUF grouping :)`
`18:36.12`	`vhaarr`	`Amadeo: ah, hehe`
`18:36.16`	`phyber`	`Saroz: XPBarNone is a good example. lots of options there :)`
`18:36.21`	`Saroz`	`nice, ty`
`18:36.28`	`phyber`	`I use almost every type of option too.`
`18:36.35`	`phyber`	`I think 'execute' is the only one I didn't use.`
`18:37.11`	`vhaarr`	`MessageEvent uses 'execute'`
`18:38.32`	`vhaarr`	`Iceroth: you should prepend your commit messages with "IceHUD: "`
`18:38.42`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: mouseover support, rather sexy`
`18:38.49`	`vhaarr`	`Iceroth: and make it possible to get clickcasting on your bars, like ArcHUD ;)`
`18:39.00`	`ckknight`	`Mikma, it also properly colors emotes`
`18:40.10`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: have you tried it with the idChat addons?`
`18:40.24`	`ckknight`	`no`
`18:40.32`	`vhaarr`	`it doesn't work here, I suspect idChat ruins it`
`18:40.41`	`ckknight`	`that cheeky bastard.`
`18:40.46`	`Mikma`	`:D`
`18:40.50`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`18:41.28`	`Amadeo`	`Mikma: http://zenon.kills.us/druidopwd.jpg -- http://zenon.kills.us/druidopwd2.jpg`
`18:41.43`	`phyber`	`ckknight: nice, you colour within the brackets :)`
`18:41.56`	`Saroz`	`my bigwigs use 2MB memory :(`
`18:42.03`	`Mikma`	`oh yeah, that's nice one too :) didn't like the colored brackets`
`18:42.17`	`ckknight`	`it's also faster/more memory-efficient than Tek's standard`
`18:42.30`	`ckknight`	`not to put him down,I built off his design`
`18:43.06`	`Mikma`	`Amadeo: this is with lvl60? 150 hits with rogue? cool`
`18:43.14`	`Mikma`	`suddenly i gain interest on leveling my druid again`
`18:43.22`	`haste`	`Saroz: it uses 750 KiB here`
`18:43.27`	`Saroz`	`...`
`18:43.33`	`Saroz`	`that's odd`
`18:43.52`	`Mikma`	`2593KiB here`
`18:44.07`	`Amadeo`	`Mikma: That's with a level 60 Rogue in full Bloodfang and using http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=21650`
`18:44.13`	`Mikma`	`but it's the first one to load ace2..`
`18:44.45`	`Mikma`	`Amadeo: holy mother.. that's really, really impressive combatlog :D`
`18:44.45`	`Amadeo`	`Ace2 is like 600KiB, I think`
`18:45.08`	`haste`	`Amadeo: 349 KiB`
`18:45.20`	`Amadeo`	`haste: Eh? With all libs?`
`18:45.24`	`haste`	`361 KiB actually`
`18:45.50`	`Amadeo`	`Mikma: I think Druids are the most overpowered class if played to the best of their abilities :/`
`18:45.52`	`Saroz`	`hax`
`18:45.54`	`Fritti`	`meh, anyone know some example code that I can rip off for frame:IsUserPlaced()? it's resisting all my attempts to NOT reposition it after drag`
`18:46.31`	`Mikk`	`Not quite following what you need here ...`
`18:46.43`	`Fritti`	`I have a frame that I can drag around`
`18:46.47`	`Fritti`	`except on /rl it always resets`
`18:46.49`	`Mikma`	`Amadeo: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=MZVxMscRdxVxfV0o that's my planned build`
`18:46.57`	`Fritti`	`even though I check 'frame:IsUserPlaced()' before repositioning it`
`18:46.58`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: aye, hehe, it might be because idChatPlayernames changes "[Name]" to "<Name>" to make it more IRC-like ;)`
`18:47.07`	`Saroz`	`ace2 = 590kb`
`18:47.10`	`ckknight`	`maybe`
`18:47.16`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi * r6130 10ApplyToForehead/ (. ApplyToForehead.toc core.lua):`
`18:47.16`	`CIA-11`	`ApplyToForehead - This addon makes it possible for Linux users to change the`
`18:47.16`	`CIA-11`	`Video Options in-game (except resolution). This is done by killing off the`
`18:47.16`	`CIA-11`	`following functions: SetMultisampleFormat, SetScreenResolution and RestartGx.`
`18:47.16`	`CIA-11`	`People who play under Windows has no use for this addon.`
`18:47.17`	`Mikma`	`Amadeo: feral-tree os complete, and i'm now 5/5 on Furor :) and bear is SUPERFUN :)`
`18:47.35`	`cladhaire`	`bear form is teh win`
`18:47.37`	`Amadeo`	`I think melee just pisses me off in WoW`
`18:47.43`	`Amadeo`	`You can't kill anything with it`
`18:47.44`	`Amadeo`	`lol`
`18:48.05`	`Mikma`	`it's rather neat to either solo / dualgroup with rogue some huge bunch of mobs at same level than i am`
`18:48.10`	`haste`	`Saroz: http://www.beverpung.net/addons/other/warmup.zip << makes your loadtime go up, but it shows more or less the correct value`
`18:48.25`	`Tuplad`	`Industrial: can I remove timestamps from combatlog ? :\`
`18:48.32`	`Amadeo`	`haste: Actually increases load time, or makes it show a higher loadtime even though it's false?`
`18:48.43`	`haste`	`increases`
`18:48.45`	`Tuplad`	`Amadeo: it increases YOUR loading time`
`18:48.46`	`Saroz`	`haste, I use warmup from SVN`
`18:48.50`	`Amadeo`	`oh :/`
`18:48.51`	`Tuplad`	`Saroz: haste's is better`
`18:48.59`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6131 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - bugfix`
`18:48.59`	`Saroz`	`ok, gonna tyr it`
`18:49.00`	`Saroz`	`try*`
`18:49.01`	`vhaarr`	`Tuplad: yes, if you know what ChatFrame it is.`
`18:49.04`	`haste`	`It's more or less ckk's / kerg's :p`
`18:49.11`	`Tuplad`	`vhaarr: it's 2 @ my place`
`18:49.23`	`vhaarr`	`Tuplad: then just edit the lua and remove the ChatFrame2 hook`
`18:49.24`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: easy`
`18:49.26`	`haste`	`I just changed so it uses the SVN version of Warmup, and not the worldofwar.net version`
`18:49.32`	`Tuplad`	`vhaarr: aaaaight`
`18:49.38`	`ckknight`	`haste, what am I sharing with kerg?`
`18:50.10`	`Tuplad`	`for i = 1, 7 do local frameName = 'ChatFrame'..i`
`18:50.15`	`haste`	`ckknight: you had the whole idea :)`
`18:50.20`	`ckknight`	`for what?`
`18:50.20`	`Tuplad`	`that's ID's code`
`18:50.22`	`haste`	`ckknight: of the Warmup improvement`
`18:50.29`	`ckknight`	`oh, okay`
`18:50.34`	`haste`	`I missed backspace, and hit enter :(`
`18:50.36`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: http://wow.reaktio.net/idChatTimestamps.lua`
`18:50.40`	`Saroz`	`haste: it says "ace" loads before warmup`
`18:50.47`	`Saroz`	`bigwigs is 590kb now`
`18:50.53`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: that will only add timestamps to chatframe1`
`18:51.05`	`haste`	`Saroz: put warmup as a optional dep of Warmup then`
`18:51.10`	`vhaarr`	`Mikma: why?`
`18:51.26`	`vhaarr`	`Mikma: nvm`
`18:51.28`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`18:51.55`	`CIA-11`	`03mikk * r6132 10IgnoreMore/ (. IgnoreMore.lua IgnoreMore.toc):`
`18:51.55`	`CIA-11`	`IgnoreMore allows you to ignore more than 49 players, and will automatically share your list between your alts on the same realm/faction.`
`18:51.55`	`CIA-11`	`Initial checkin: v1.0. Been in beta for ~10 days.`
`18:53.01`	`Mikma`	`oh new ignoremore!`
`18:53.08`	`Fritti`	`ah, wait! anyone know if dynamic frame positions can be saved? maybe it's because I create the frames dynamically...`
`18:53.25`	`Mikk`	`Doubt it very much`
`18:53.35`	`phyber`	`Fritti: check XPBarNone. last two functions.`
`18:53.42`	`Saroz`	`I'm pretty sure they do`
`18:53.48`	`Mikk`	`Mikma: Just upped version number from 1.0-beta to 1.0.`
`18:53.54`	`phyber`	`http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/XPBarNone/Core.lua`
`18:54.06`	`Fritti`	`phyber: also dynamic frame?`
`18:54.42`	`phyber`	`Fritti: yeah`
`18:54.52`	`phyber`	`by dynamic, you mean the frame is created in LUA, right?`
`18:54.52`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: oh alright, already got the beta version. doesn't matter tho since ignore doesn't work on my server ;D`
`18:55.01`	`Fritti`	`phyber: yes, CreateFrame()`
`18:55.07`	`phyber`	`then yeah. :)`
`18:55.13`	`Mikk`	`Mikma: huh?`
`18:55.15`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: people in my ignorelist can still whisper me, with or without IgnoreMore :)`
`18:55.19`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: /bow`
`18:55.24`	`Mikk`	`Wtf`
`18:55.46`	`Mikk`	`IgnoreMore eats incoming CHAT_MSG_WHISPER events before they reach the chatframes`
`18:56.06`	`Mikk`	`Are you just adding the wrong people to your ignore list? =P`
`18:56.08`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: that's why i said it's broken on this server. everyone else has the exact samy problem`
`18:56.19`	`Mikk`	`I'll buy a broken server`
`18:56.25`	`Mikk`	`But IgnoreMore doesn'?t use the server`
`18:56.27`	`Mikk`	`It's just clientside`
`18:56.43`	`Mikk`	`What server?`
`18:56.49`	`Mikk`	`(EU I assume)`
`18:57.23`	`Mikma`	`aye, Nordrassil`
`18:59.36`	`Mikma`	`oh yeah.. the thing is i can't see the ignored persons publics, but i can still see their whispers`
`18:59.59`	`Mikma`	`publics/raid/party etc`
`19:00.46`	`ckknight`	`I'm almost done AceComm, btw`
`19:01.03`	`ckknight`	`the only thing missing is serialization/deserialization of objects`
`19:01.39`	`cladhaire`	`want stream compression? =)`
`19:01.54`	`Mikk`	`Mikma: Creating account there in a sec.`
`19:02.10`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: try alliance and /w tricia when you're done`
`19:02.12`	`Kyahx`	`phyber: oRA_Version is makeing oRA bomb on me. Getting an AceChatCmd error`
`19:02.28`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, I don't think it's worthwhile`
`19:02.37`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: Seriously tho, if you want packetized LZ77 I can generalize it for you`
`19:02.41`	`cladhaire`	`it migh tbe for serialization of tables.`
`19:02.42`	`phyber`	`Kyahx: I know. :)`
`19:02.46`	`Kyahx`	`=(`
`19:02.54`	`phyber`	`the chat commands still work`
`19:02.57`	`cladhaire`	`but i hear ya =)`
`19:02.57`	`phyber`	`but you can't list it for some reason`
`19:03.00`	`phyber`	`and I don't know why.`
`19:03.01`	`cladhaire`	`i just had fun writing them`
`19:03.02`	`ckknight`	`I'll do it raw first`
`19:03.12`	`phyber`	`if someone finds out, I'll commit the fix ;)`
`19:03.23`	`Kyahx`	`phyber: and you used the ugly oRA gui style :(`
`19:03.30`	`Kyahx`	`not the shiny nice one!`
`19:03.35`	`phyber`	`Kyahx: that will be fixed when I make it LUA frames :)`
`19:03.54`	`ckknight`	`btw, cladhaire, absolutely any string can be sent through the stream. Broken item links, colors, newlines, \000's, of any length, and properly accounting for drunkenness`
`19:04.41`	`ckknight`	`so I'm proud of that ;-)`
`19:05.26`	`JoshBorke`	`doesn't SendAddonMessage already handle drunkenness?`
`19:05.30`	`ckknight`	`and it has throttling/prioritization`
`19:05.34`	`ckknight`	`yes, JoshBorke, it does`
`19:05.39`	`ckknight`	`but SendChatMessage doen't`
`19:05.41`	`ckknight`	`doesn't*`
`19:05.51`	`ckknight`	`and what if I want whisper communication or channel communication?`
`19:06.03`	`JoshBorke`	`ah`
`19:09.43`	`vhaarr`	`anyone else having problems with oRA_MainTankFrames blinking the MTToT frames randomly?`
`19:10.00`	`vhaarr`	`Sairen: hm, I just logged in and joined a raid and the raid frame positions are not how I left them`
`19:10.08`	`vhaarr`	`Sairen: (mg2-sairen)`
`19:11.02`	`vhaarr`	`Sairen: since the last time I was in a raid I have (1) disabled MG2, (2) enabled agUF and played a bit, but not in raid, (3) disabled agUF and enabled MG2 again, (4) logged in and joined a raid.`
`19:11.07`	`vhaarr`	`Sairen: not sure if that matters`
`19:11.23`	`vhaarr`	`the frames are not in the default position, but scattered over the screen`
`19:14.05`	`CIA-11`	`03saroz * r6133 10sRaidFrames/ (4 files):`
`19:14.05`	`CIA-11`	`sRaidFrames: Added basic slash commands`
`19:14.05`	`CIA-11`	`- Fixed health deficit showing "0" when unit was at full health`
`19:14.05`	`CIA-11`	`- Removed sRaidFrames.xml file`
`19:14.05`	`CIA-11`	`- Now depends on Ace`
`19:14.57`	`Kyahx`	`phyber: found it`
`19:15.13`	`Kyahx`	`oRA dosent like the type being "version"`
`19:15.24`	`Kyahx`	`changed it to "versioncheck" and it lists fine, still operates as intended`
`19:15.27`	`Mikma`	`getting warm`
`19:16.05`	`Tuplad`	`Saroz: screens?`
`19:16.33`	`CIA-11`	`03kyahx * r6134 10oRA_Version/ (oRA_Version.lua oRA_VersionLocals.lua): oRA_Version: I win the prize.`
`19:17.04`	`Kyahx`	`Tuplad: CTRA frame replacements, imagine those and your set :P`
`19:17.43`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2766`
`19:19.57`	`CIA-11`	`03saroz * r6135 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Now saves the position of the master frame`
`19:20.18`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahx: >:\|`
`19:20.23`	`Saroz`	`my bindings.xml refuse to show my header`
`19:20.24`	`Saroz`	`wtf`
`19:20.32`	`Kyahx`	`hehe`
`19:21.38`	`phyber`	`Kyahx: nice, thanks. :)`
`19:21.57`	`Kyahx`	`Now I don't know why oRA dosent like the type being "version"`
`19:21.59`	`Kyahx`	`but oh well`
`19:23.39`	`nullpuppy`	`kergoth: poke`
`19:25.09`	`kergoth`	`nullpuppy: hey`
`19:25.51`	`nullpuppy`	`whats the new svn path again?`
`19:26.06`	`nullpuppy`	`went through lbrs this morning, no gloves :(`
`19:26.18`	`kergoth`	`haste: sweet, ApplyToForehead looks nice`
`19:26.20`	`kergoth`	`nullpuppy: aw`
`19:26.28`	`kergoth`	`nullpuppy: http://kergoth.com/svn/wow/trunk/KergWOW`
`19:26.53`	`haste`	`kergoth: can't change resolution tho'`
`19:26.53`	`CIA-11`	`03mikk * r6136 10IgnoreMore/ (IgnoreMore.lua IgnoreMore.toc):`
`19:26.53`	`CIA-11`	`IgnoreMore:`
`19:26.53`	`CIA-11`	`- Hooking Chatr's event handler too to apply ignoring there as well.`
`19:27.09`	`nullpuppy`	`k, thanks`
`19:27.12`	`Mikk`	`Mikma: Try that. I'm afk for 3 mins.`
`19:27.21`	`Mikma`	`i do`
`19:28.08`	`nullpuppy`	`kergoth: oh.. and you remember sam and max right?`
`19:28.09`	`nullpuppy`	`:)`
`19:28.39`	`CIA-11`	`03phyber * r6137 10XPBarNone/Core.lua:`
`19:28.39`	`CIA-11`	`XPBarNone:`
`19:28.39`	`CIA-11`	`- Added option to hide the Blizzard XP Bar. Default is on.`
`19:28.48`	`kergoth`	`nullpuppy: yup`
`19:28.54`	`nullpuppy`	`http://www.telltalegames.com/samandmax`
`19:28.58`	`nullpuppy`	`it's coming back!`
`19:29.00`	`kergoth`	`haste: still, better than nothing :)`
`19:29.03`	`kergoth`	`woot!`
`19:29.16`	`nullpuppy`	`'episodic' gaming ... it'll be a season.. ;)`
`19:29.18`	`nullpuppy`	`sounds awesome`
`19:29.29`	`ckknight`	`sam and max have been "coming back" for a while`
`19:29.41`	`nullpuppy`	`yeah, but now something is finally happening`
`19:30.30`	`nullpuppy`	`as well as day of the tentacle`
`19:30.46`	`kergoth`	`me too, i need to play those again`
`19:30.52`	`nullpuppy`	`yeah`
`19:31.11`	`nullpuppy`	`i miss the old lucas arts and sierra adventure games :(`
`19:31.22`	`ckknight`	`yea, they were fun`
`19:31.25`	`ckknight`	`Monkey Island ftw`
`19:31.48`	`nullpuppy`	`never played much monkey island`
`19:31.58`	`kergoth`	`i miss space quest and leisure suit larry`
`19:32.04`	`nullpuppy`	`hehe, yeah`
`19:32.09`	`phyber`	`I have Sam N Max on here. ScummVM -> win.`
`19:32.16`	`nullpuppy`	`w00t!`
`19:32.17`	`kergoth`	`nice`
`19:32.24`	`phyber`	`I'm playing through The Dig at the moment.`
`19:32.28`	`kergoth`	`i had DoTT running on my zaurus once`
`19:32.36`	`nullpuppy`	`haha, nice`
`19:32.58`	`CIA-11`	`03saroz * r6138 10sRaidFrames/ (Bindings.xml sRaidFramesLocals.lua): sRaidFrames: Fix keybinding header not displaying`
`19:33.27`	`CIA-11`	`03mikk * r6139 10IgnoreMore/IgnoreMore.lua:`
`19:33.27`	`CIA-11`	`IgnoreMore:`
`19:33.28`	`CIA-11`	`- Hum, maybe I should actually call Chatr in the Chatr hook, and not ChatFrame. Oops.`
`19:33.28`	`nullpuppy`	`wtf`
`19:33.52`	`nullpuppy`	`oh, fscking flash ads..`
`19:37.29`	`cladhaire`	`my bash quote is still pending moderation`
`19:37.32`	`cladhaire`	`well.. mikk's quote :P`
`19:38.16`	`Mikk`	`hehe. took me a while to remember what i ramblings i'd actually produced :-P`
`19:38.22`	`cladhaire`	`lolo`
`19:38.25`	`cladhaire`	`it was brilliant =)`
`19:38.29`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, what quote?`
`19:38.30`	`CIA-11`	`03saroz * r6140 10sRaidFrames/Bindings.xml: sRaidFrames: Make bindings use the save and get functions`
`19:39.05`	`cladhaire`	`(9:41:35 PM) MentalPower: cananyone suggest any perl tutorials?`
`19:39.05`	`cladhaire`	`(9:53:16 PM) a-stray-cat [n=email@adsl-75-26-167-118.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] entered the room.`
`19:39.05`	`cladhaire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:39.06`	`CIA-11`	`03kyahx * r6141 10oRA_Menu/ (Core.lua Locals.lua):`
`19:39.06`	`CIA-11`	`oRA_Menu v0.5:`
`19:39.07`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:39.07`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:39.24`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx: put oRA_MainTankFrames support in oRA_Menu too! :)`
`19:39.32`	`Kyahx`	`for private tanks?`
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`19:40.04`	`Kyahx`	`it already can set main tanks :P`
`19:41.26`	`CIA-11`	`03ag * r6142 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua:`
`19:41.26`	`CIA-11`	`ag_UnitFrames -`
`19:41.26`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:41.34`	`Fritti`	`ok, I'm so going to create a WoWwiki account now to edit IsUserPlaced / SetUserPlaced`
`19:41.47`	`Fritti`	`why oh why doesn't it save dynamic frames! cries`
`19:41.55`	`cladhaire`	`Fritti: because it can't.`
`19:42.02`	`Fritti`	`it can't? why not?`
`19:42.04`	`cladhaire`	`the frames dont exist when the game loads up, so it drops the definitions.`
`19:42.08`	`Fritti`	`hmmm`
`19:42.24`	`cladhaire`	`you sure it doesn't save them in the meantime?`
`19:42.33`	`cladhaire`	`i'd suggest it saves them, then they're lost at load time.`
`19:42.44`	`Fritti`	`no, it didn't even save them afaik`
`19:43.02`	`cladhaire`	`hrm`
`19:43.03`	`Fritti`	`but now I can't really test that, because I converted those frames to .xml frames and now they do save`
`19:43.06`	`Saroz`	`How do I dynamically add a tooltip to a button I've created?`
`19:43.07`	`cladhaire`	`well thats WHY they dont save`
`19:43.17`	`Mikma`	ag`: !!!11
`19:43.19`	`Fritti`	`ok, I can see that`
`19:43.25`	`Mikma`	ag`: you bastard broke your unitframes :P
`19:43.31`	ag`	`nope, works fine`
`19:43.31`	`Fritti`	`still, I did properly name them etc.`
`19:43.44`	`Fritti`	`it's not entirely obvious :)`
`19:44.15`	`vhaarr`	ag`: I can't see target or ToT frames
`19:47.20`	ag`	`vhaarr, disable all addons, make sure you're not getting any errors and do /aguf reset`
`19:47.39`	`vhaarr`	ag`: several people experience the problem, 3 that I know of
`19:47.50`	`Mikma`	`2 in here and people in boards`
`19:47.50`	`vhaarr`	ag`: I reverted to MG2 for the naxx raid, so I can't test now
`19:47.57`	ag`	`but is it related to an error or not vhaarr`
`19:48.02`	`vhaarr`	`I get no errors`
`19:48.13`	`Mikma`	`i do when selecting target`
`19:48.25`	ag`	`do /aguf reset`
`19:48.43`	`Mikma`	`clicking Aguf party/player and i get Cligue_agUnitFrames.lua:37: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)`
`19:49.38`	ag`	`Mikma, update clique ffs`
`19:49.42`	`Mikma`	`i did`
`19:49.43`	ag`	`I fixed that one >.<`
`19:49.56`	`Mikma`	`i updated them both before that error`
`19:50.35`	ag`	`I had that error myself, because I forgot to change something, I went and fixed it and commited it to the SVN, and now it works fine here`
`19:50.52`	`Andalia`	ag`: I also get this hook-error. So i commented out the whole content of the function with the error and had no issues since then. Might be because i don't use rep-bar
`19:51.24`	ag`	`Andalia, it should give no errors even if you have the rep watch thing turned off`
`19:51.39`	ag`	`but if you use an addon that removes the xp bar in some way, that could be screwy`
`19:51.44`	`ckknight`	`does loadstring/string.dump work properly in WoW?`
`19:53.06`	ag`	`in a totally clean wow install, between several computers, I am not getting the hook error message. Most people except for 2-3 are not getting it either... I can't say it's not an error on my behalf, but it serously makes me suspect that those people are using interfering addons`
`19:53.23`	`*** join/#wowace FtH\|Eagle (i=eagle@HSI-KBW-085-216-057-137.hsi.kabelbw.de)`
`19:54.17`	`-FISKER_Q	`btw none of you haven't actually ever got an "eta" on their tickets right?`
`19:55.42`	`Tuplad`	`kergoth: http://kergoth.com/svn/wow/trunk/KergWOW/AddOns/ the addons that u use ?`
`19:56.27`	`Andalia`	ag`: I'll try to reset everything now and see if it works after that. But i've seen many people complaining about it today
`19:57.08`	ag`	`the code has been there for 1-2 weeks`
`19:57.24`	ag`	`and was in MG for months`
`19:58.18`	`Mikma`	`i just deleted my aguf settings`
`19:58.30`	`Mikma`	`now i will also delete clique's settings and redownload both`
`19:59.00`	ag`	`ADDON_LOADED in Ace2`
`19:59.19`	ag`	`does it only happen for my own addon, or should I check the arg against my addonname?`
`20:01.21`	`ckknight`	`it happens for every addon`
`20:02.25`	ag`	`ah yes, just found it in AceAddon wiki`
`20:03.45`	`Andalia`	ag`: I disabled all other addons and used /aguf reset with /console reloaui but it didn't help
`20:03.52`	`Andalia`	`i still get the same error`
`20:04.19`	`Andalia`	`maybe it has something to do with if you are lvl60 oder have a faction watched`
`20:04.56`	ag`	`there should be no problem`
`20:05.10`	ag`	`it's a blizzard function I am hooking using AceHook-2.0`
`20:05.20`	`Mikma`	ag`: same errors exist
`20:05.24`	`Mikma`	`no target + 2 errors`
`20:05.56`	ag`	`that clique error is 100% fixed`
`20:06.06`	ag`	`the other error, what's that?`
`20:06.30`	`Saroz`	`anyone know what the "raidFilter" argument does for GameTooltip:SetUnitDebuff?`
`20:07.04`	`Mikma`	ag`: ag_UnitClass.lua:1072: attempt to index field 'ReputationWatchBar_Update' (a nil value)
`20:07.20`	`Andalia`	`ok now i renamed wdb+wtf+interface and only installed aguf in a completely ne interface folder. Let's see what happens`
`20:07.35`	`Mikma`	ag`: Clique_agUnitFrames.lua:37: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
`20:07.42`	ag`	`Saroz, it's to let SetUnitDebuff know if you used the aura filter or not`
`20:07.47`	`Mikma`	ag`: this is with 5mins ago downloaded Clique and aguf
`20:08.21`	`Andalia`	ag`: Still the same error
`20:08.47`	`Saroz`	ag`, found it:New raidFilter parameter, set to 1 to only show dispellable debuffs.
`20:09.01`	ag`	`Saroz, yep`
`20:09.14`	ag`	`Mikma, try this http://ace.pastebin.ca/105644`
`20:12.54`	ag`	`It's pretty fucked because, I am hooking ReputationWatchBar_Update with Ace2. But when it tries to call the original function, it says ReputationWatchBar_Update (a nil value) for some people, apparently`
`20:14.18`	`Mikma`	ag`: clique error gone with that url
`20:15.10`	`Tuplad`	`omg, a shaman just procced windfury and done 5300dmg on me`
`20:15.20`	`Tuplad`	`after a failed cheapshot`
`20:15.28`	`Mikma`	`owned`
`20:15.46`	`Mikma`	ag`: ok i lied, the error still exists
`20:16.00`	`Mikma`	ag`: when i select the person i get the error and no targetframe
`20:16.02`	`vhaarr`	`Tuplad: WF is like max 2k`
`20:16.13`	`vhaarr`	`in my experience`
`20:16.14`	ag`	`select or click`
`20:16.50`	`Mikma`	`click to select, not to use Clique actions`
`20:17.03`	`Mikma`	`meaning leftclick on the partyframes`
`20:17.21`	`Mikma`	`45: attempt to index field '?'`
`20:17.23`	`Tem`	`I just crit a fireball for 3100`
`20:17.29`	`Tem`	`and a fireblast for 1696`
`20:17.35`	`Tem`	`(almost at the same time)`
`20:17.39`	`Tem`	`(on the same person)`
`20:17.46`	`Mikma`	`hah`
`20:18.35`	`Tem`	`(if the poor rogue had had enough life to live through the initial burst, he had another 1900 coming in ignite ticks)`
`20:18.41`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`20:18.51`	`Tem`	`(he didn't)`
`20:19.21`	`Tem`	`<3 bezerker buff`
`20:19.41`	`Tuplad`	`vhaarr: I would give you a screen if my print screen button worked`
`20:19.45`	`Tuplad`	`3 crits`
`20:20.00`	`Tuplad`	`he's stormstrike specced + arcanite reaper and crusader procced`
`20:20.39`	`Industrial`	`haste, steino_; I just woke up and watched till episode 3 of chobits. Al I can do right now is pull a face like '^^' + ':D' + ':>' + ';O'! this is o cool im hooked. no words for the cuteness :P`
`20:21.00`	`haste`	`haha`
`20:21.17`	`Industrial`	`chi? awww :')`
`20:21.33`	`haste`	`http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/addons/oCD/WoWScrnShot_072906_221431.png << I'm almost doing something useful :p`
`20:21.36`	`Industrial`	`Now I'm going to have to watch it all in one go`
`20:21.40`	`Mikma`	ag`: clickcasting works nicely but can't select the peeps without error, nor the targetframe
`20:21.46`	`haste`	`Populating my ignore list while writing addons!`
`20:22.42`	`Mikma`	`haste: code an addon which ignores all :D`
`20:22.45`	`CIA-11`	`03ag * r6143 10Clique/Plugins/Clique_agUnitFrames.lua:`
`20:22.45`	`CIA-11`	`ag_UnitFrames -`
`20:22.45`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:22.47`	`Mikma`	`toggleable on and off`
`20:22.51`	`haste`	`:-P`
`20:22.57`	`haste`	`^^`
`20:23.03`	`Kyahx`	`oCD?`
`20:23.03`	`Industrial`	`:X`
`20:23.04`	`Kyahx`	`lol`
`20:23.08`	`haste`	`I know Industrial`
`20:23.14`	`haste`	`I lost my interface a while ago`
`20:23.20`	`Industrial`	`oh buger :(`
`20:23.22`	`Industrial`	`gg*`
`20:23.29`	`haste`	`so I just popped the first backup I found, and fixed every addon that was broken :p`
`20:23.37`	`haste`	`that's the 1.8 version of idChat if I remembe right`
`20:23.50`	`haste`	`Kyahx: yes!`
`20:23.54`	`Industrial`	`should work then I guess :P`
`20:23.55`	`-FISKER_Q	`the best thing about WoW is that you need a engine restart for lua changes be written`
`20:24.08`	`Industrial`	yes `-FISKER_Q
`20:24.10`	`-FISKER_Q	`so nice when you forget "load out of date addons" and you can backup the wtf folder :P`
`20:24.32`	`CIA-11`	`03ag * r6144 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):`
`20:24.32`	`CIA-11`	`ag_UnitFrames -`
`20:24.32`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:24.39`	`Industrial`	`or for the inability to communicate with third party addons through lua`
`20:24.48`	`Industrial`	`third party programs*`
`20:24.50`	`-FISKER_Q	`of course :)`
`20:25.10`	ag`	`it catches changes in files fine, what it doesn't do is load new files`
`20:25.32`	ag`	`you can upload 100 blank files, run wow and then change them all you like`
`20:25.34`	ag`	`even images`
`20:26.14`	`-FISKER_Q	`last time i tried to change a image it became a green box`
`20:26.17`	`-FISKER_Q	`or purple`
`20:26.19`	`-FISKER_Q	`can't remember`
`20:26.28`	`haste`	`green`
`20:26.28`	`vhaarr`	`Industrial: someone beat you to the color player names by class :)`
`20:26.30`	ag`	`usually green`
`20:26.41`	ag`	`but anyway, you can edit a picture just fine while it is running`
`20:26.42`	`vhaarr`	`Industrial: Teknicolor in the svn, you should try ckknight's branch`
`20:27.24`	`CIA-11`	`03kyahx * r6145 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua:`
`20:27.24`	`CIA-11`	`FuBar_FuXPFu:`
`20:27.24`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:27.38`	`Kyahx`	`thats been bugging me forever :P`
`20:28.44`	ag`	`Andalia, Mikma, tell me if everything is working as it should`
`20:28.56`	`-FISKER_Q	`how do i get dir to only show folder and not irrelevant stuff like dates and stuff?`
`20:29.01`	`haste`	`now I need to figure out when to start the timers :<`
`20:30.04`	*** join/#wowace ag` (n=Andreas@0x535cbbaa.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
`20:30.27`	ag`	`Mikma, Andalia, did it work? Sorry, had to rejoin the channel`
`20:31.00`	`Andalia`	ag`: I'll try now
`20:31.00`	`CIA-11`	`03saroz * r6146 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua:`
`20:31.00`	`CIA-11`	`sRaidFrames:`
`20:31.00`	`CIA-11`	`- Show tooltip when mousing over debuff icon`
`20:31.01`	`CIA-11`	`- Display amount of applications on debuff icon`
`20:31.13`	`Mikma`	ag`: will try now
`20:31.56`	`Andalia`	`fatality`
`20:32.06`	`Andalia`	`same error`
`20:32.33`	ag`	`Andalia, updated it from the svn and all`
`20:32.43`	`Andalia`	`yes`
`20:33.00`	ag`	`and what line?`
`20:33.15`	`Andalia`	`thats funny ^^ you did a nil-check and it still says nil-value`
`20:33.23`	`Andalia`	`one line below`
`20:33.25`	`Andalia`	`1073`
`20:33.43`	`Andalia`	`maybe an acehooks-bug`
`20:34.02`	ag`	`I think AceHook is pretty solid`
`20:34.18`	ag`	`my problem with it is that it's only a few people getting the damn error`
`20:34.41`	`Mikma`	`but you are lucky that the people are here`
`20:34.46`	`Mikma`	`1073`
`20:35.08`	`Mikma`	ag`: no error about clique anymore, but no targetframe either
`20:35.15`	`Andalia`	`I don't know but i think that it's about 50/50. Many people complained about the error`
`20:35.19`	ag`	`Mikma, /aguf reset`
`20:35.28`	`Industrial`	`vhaarr, arse`
`20:35.41`	`Industrial`	`that must be tekkub then`
`20:35.44`	`vhaarr`	`yep :P`
`20:35.56`	`vhaarr`	`Industrial: problem with it is that it doesn't work with idChat* ;)`
`20:36.02`	`Industrial`	`orly? :o`
`20:36.04`	`Mikma`	ag`: did not help
`20:36.07`	`Industrial`	`booo :P`
`20:36.07`	`vhaarr`	`ya :(`
`20:36.15`	`Mikma`	ag`: did /aguf reset and /script aUF:Reset() and /rl
`20:36.30`	ag`	`Mikma, just delete everything then.... WTF, addons and shit like that, you're the only one with no target :P`
`20:36.38`	`vhaarr`	`Industrial: unless Teknicolor is NOT supposed to color the names inside the brackets`
`20:36.44`	`phyber`	`anyone know what texture it is for the "At War" crossed swords in the Reputation window? I can't figure it out from the lua/xml :\|`
`20:36.49`	`vhaarr`	`Industrial: it works in the chat text`
`20:37.07`	`Andalia`	`It's really odd. I reseted everything and only loaded aguf but the error didn't go away. I never had such an error`
`20:37.20`	`*** join/#wowace Galka (n=Galka@pool-72-88-159-177.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)`
`20:37.24`	`Industrial`	`Ill check it out vhaarr ^^`
`20:37.37`	`vhaarr`	`Industrial: you win`
`20:37.53`	`Andalia`	ag`: I also get no targetframe with the error
`20:38.23`	`Andalia`	ag`: And i already deleted EVERYTHING. wtf, wdb, interface. Didn't help
`20:38.24`	`Mikma`	`dum di dum`
`20:38.26`	ag`	`if you're getting an error, most code won't execute after the error happens`
`20:38.29`	`Mikma`	`so i'm the only one :P`
`20:38.44`	ag`	`so everyone with the reputation error won't have a target`
`20:38.56`	`Andalia`	`seems so`
`20:39.22`	`Andalia`	Have you already deleted everything ag`?
`20:39.32`	`Andalia`	`maybe you have something that makes it work`
`20:39.41`	ag`	`anyway I can make the error go away if I delete line 1065`
`20:40.19`	ag`	`I mean`
`20:40.26`	ag`	`I get the error if I remove line 1065`
`20:41.13`	ag`	`so it seems to me like the hook doesn't work for you people`
`20:41.23`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: i just love teknicolor with your mods`
`20:41.34`	`ckknight`	`;-)`
`20:41.46`	`Mikma`	ag`: well i'll download Ace2 as independent addon and try again after this DM run, it's over soon
`20:42.22`	`Galka`	`Teknicolor is still causing this error to appear whenver I do a /who query that yields multiple names thereby popping up the blizzard pane:`
`20:42.24`	`Galka`	Core.lua:9: attempt to concatenate local `name' (a nil value)
`20:42.26`	`Galka`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:43.09`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: is Teknicolor supposed to color the names in brackets or just in the actual chat text?`
`20:43.20`	`Kyahx`	`just the name`
`20:43.28`	`Mikma`	`ckknight's version colors just the name`
`20:43.32`	`Mikma`	`original colors brackets too`
`20:43.44`	`vhaarr`	`that's not what I mean`
`20:43.50`	`ckknight`	`Galka, my version or Tek's?`
`20:43.52`	`vhaarr`	`"the names in brackets"`
`20:44.00`	`vhaarr`	`not "the names' brackets"`
`20:44.01`	`Galka`	`Tek's version, Ck, off the trunk`
`20:44.11`	`ckknight`	`use my version off branches`
`20:44.12`	`Mikma`	`name inside brackets = ckknight, name with brackets = tek`
`20:44.13`	`Galka`	`Ok`
`20:44.16`	`Galka`	`Going to try that now`
`20:44.24`	`Saroz`	`anyone play a priest here?`
`20:44.27`	`cladhaire`	`yes`
`20:44.31`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`20:44.33`	`Saroz`	`http://thottbot.com/?sp=20711 or http://thottbot.com/?sp=27827`
`20:44.34`	`Kyahx`	`:P`
`20:44.40`	`Saroz`	`which ones is the buff you get when you die`
`20:44.42`	`Saroz`	`-s`
`20:45.42`	`vhaarr`	`the second one, I think`
`20:46.35`	`cladhaire`	`the second`
`20:46.44`	`CIA-11`	`03ag * r6147 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:`
`20:46.44`	`CIA-11`	`ag_UnitFrames -`
`20:46.44`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:46.49`	`Saroz`	`nice`
`20:46.55`	`cladhaire`	`the first is the spell, the second is the buff`
`20:47.34`	ag`	`Mikma, Andalia try now`
`20:47.40`	`Andalia`	`I would suggest for teknicolor to color unknown classes in grey. I really like that because you can see the author really fast. Even if teknicolor doesn't know the name.`
`20:47.54`	`vhaarr`	`"unknown classes"?`
`20:47.57`	`Andalia`	ag`: I'll do
`20:48.26`	`Mikma`	ag`: will do
`20:48.56`	`Andalia`	`no error`
`20:49.01`	`Andalia`	`+targetframe ;)`
`20:49.17`	`Andalia`	./cheer ag`
`20:49.25`	`Galka`	`Anyone here use a standalone addon to disable Blizzard unit frames?`
`20:49.30`	`CIA-11`	`03saroz * r6148 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Support for Spirit of Redemption`
`20:49.44`	`Mikma`	`Andalia: you see? whining does help!`
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`20:50.26`	`Mikma`	`"I whine because I care"`
`20:52.25`	`Mikma`	ag`: no error, targetframe
`20:52.56`	`Tuplad`	`:D`
`20:53.20`	`Mikma`	`OOH`
`20:53.35`	`Andalia`	ag`: Now please fix healthbar-classcoloring. It always takes some random time till the color updates. Till then the classcolor of the previous tot appears.
`20:53.35`	`Mikma`	`this is the episode in Miami Vice where Crocket gets his Texs`
`20:53.36`	`Mikma`	`s`
`20:53.38`	`Andalia`	`:P`
`20:53.39`	`Mikma`	`dasdas :)`
`20:53.41`	`Mikma`	`Testaclerossa`
`20:54.04`	`Mikma`	`that is SOOOOOOO hot car :P~ ~~ ~`
`20:54.10`	ag`	`but Mikma, Andalia, what happens if you go into your rep screen and enable/disable different factions to monitor`
`20:54.55`	`Mikma`	ag`: well, works in aguf and FuXPFu
`20:55.21`	ag`	`so you can change the faction to monitor and aguf updates?`
`20:55.29`	`Mikma`	ag`: i've had one faction enabled for the whole time, i mean :) and i just switched it to another one
`20:55.45`	`Mikma`	`yeah aguf updates`
`20:56.06`	`Andalia`	ag`: Seems to wokr fine
`20:56.15`	`Andalia`	`Updates on change etc.`
`20:56.42`	`Mikma`	`and /aguf config doesnt' give out error anymore :)`
`20:57.05`	`Andalia`	`I just don't know if it updates on rep-gains etc. Can't test that now`
`20:57.28`	`Andalia`	`but it updates when changing the watched faction`
`20:58.04`	ag`	`nah it would do that fine`
`20:58.16`	ag`	`it's just changing the watched faction I use the hook for`
`20:59.03`	`Andalia`	`ok i'll go to bed now. Need some sleep. Cu`
`20:59.20`	ag`	`cladhaire, you there?`
`20:59.24`	`haste`	`yay, my go through the spellbook after cooldowns work ;D`
`20:59.24`	`Mikma`	`goooo crocket!`
`20:59.31`	`Mikma`	`got hit in the head with a gun lala`
`20:59.40`	`haste`	`at least on the three classes I've tested it ^^`
`20:59.42`	`cladhaire`	ag`: yeah
`20:59.48`	`haste`	`I have a question however`
`21:00.03`	`haste`	`Is there ANY spell, that has a different cooldown on TWO or more ranks?`
`21:00.03`	ag`	`cladhaire, suggestion to add TargetUnit to the context menu in clique`
`21:00.34`	`cladhaire`	`]rejected`
`21:00.39`	`Mikma`	`haste: heals ?`
`21:00.43`	`vhaarr`	`haste: yes`
`21:00.45`	`haste`	`Mikma: cooldown?`
`21:00.50`	ag`	`any reason to why not? :P`
`21:00.52`	`vhaarr`	`haste: ah, cooldowns, not casting time`
`21:00.57`	`vhaarr`	`haste: sorry, then I don't know`
`21:00.57`	`haste`	`;)`
`21:01.00`	`cladhaire`	`Because using TargetUnit() is really nasty in a click-casting addon`
`21:01.10`	`cladhaire`	`i will however be adding Clique:TargetUnit() Clique:AssistUnit() And Clique:FollowUnit()`
`21:01.20`	`Mikma`	`haste: oh hmmmm`
`21:01.22`	`cladhaire`	`TargetUnit won't do what people expect it to do`
`21:01.28`	`cladhaire`	`and they'd have to type TargetUnit(Clique.unit)`
`21:01.32`	`cladhaire`	`which idiots can't handle.`
`21:01.42`	`vhaarr`	`Clique:InspectUnit and Clique:DuelUnit ? :P`
`21:01.55`	`cladhaire`	`no`
`21:02.04`	`vhaarr`	`why Follow but not those?`
`21:02.05`	`cladhaire`	`i wont even be putting followunit`
`21:02.09`	`vhaarr`	`ah ok`
`21:02.12`	`cladhaire`	`that was a lapse of judgement =)`
`21:02.16`	`vhaarr`	`right :)`
`21:03.11`	ag`	`cladhaire, ah. That's fine if you're adding Clique:TargetUnit() then :P`
`21:04.13`	ag`	`anyway, a usability suggestion. People might not know that they have access to the special functions like target or cureany if they right click...`
`21:04.39`	ag`	`a dropdown box named "special actions" might be in order, but that's up to you`
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`21:06.09`	`vhaarr`	`there is a rightclick menu already in the edit box, I think`
`21:06.37`	`cladhaire`	ag`: Wait.. what do you mean?
`21:06.51`	`cladhaire`	ag`: That makes no sense..
`21:06.58`	`haste`	`Okey, I'm going to base my addon around the 'fact' that there are no spells with different cooldown on other ranks`
`21:07.07`	`haste`	`Makes things a lot easier also ;)`
`21:08.09`	ag`	`cladhaire, what I meant is that people doesn't know that they can access important things like Clique:TargetUnit(),Clique:CureAny() if they rightclick the text box. My suggestion is that there is a dropdown button like "sets"`
`21:08.22`	`CIA-11`	`03cladhaire * r6149 10Clique/CliqueUtils.lua:`
`21:08.22`	`CIA-11`	`Clique:`
`21:08.22`	`CIA-11`	`* Added Clique:TargetUnit(["unit"])`
`21:08.22`	`CIA-11`	`* Added Clique:AssistUnit(["unit"])`
`21:08.22`	`CIA-11`	`* Added both to the right-click menu`
`21:08.36`	`cladhaire`	ag`: ... we asked this three nights ago
`21:08.39`	`cladhaire`	`and said this was a much better idea`
`21:08.44`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`21:08.47`	`cladhaire`	`i can educate the user`
`21:08.53`	`cladhaire`	`but another dropdown just isn't as intuitive as the popup`
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`21:09.48`	`Galka`	`Sorry, had to reset IRC, had a question regarding a standalone addon that disabled Blizzards default player/target frames`
`21:09.55`	`Galka`	`Can anyone recommend such an addon?`
`21:10.41`	ag`	`cladhaire, sure, if the user reads the text at the bottom`
`21:11.31`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`21:11.38`	`cladhaire`	`then they shouldn't be using the custom functions.`
`21:12.13`	`vhaarr`	`Galka: just copy the code from agUF`
`21:12.14`	`cladhaire`	`imho`
`21:12.42`	`cladhaire`	`appreciate the suggestion, but if people dont want to take the time to read any information on Clique.. they can not use it. Its not an out-of-the-box-zomg-does-somethign mod.. it takes some work.`
`21:12.56`	`cladhaire`	`but much like watchdog.. once you put the time in.. things work exactly as you want them to`
`21:13.37`	ag`	`well, just a usability suggestion. I think clique is one of the addons with the best usability compared to stuff like castparty`
`21:14.25`	`vhaarr`	`aceheal is alot easier than Clique, imo, but yes, CastParty is worse`
`21:14.31`	`cladhaire`	`wait what?`
`21:14.35`	`cladhaire`	`how in the hell is aceheal easier?`
`21:14.43`	`vhaarr`	`with the FuBar plugin`
`21:14.59`	`cladhaire`	`what fubar plugin?`
`21:15.10`	`vhaarr`	`the one included in AceHeal, at least in Kyahx' branch`
`21:15.19`	ag`	`Anyway I'm just on the apple usability bandwagon that hidden functionality in rightclick menus is a bad thing,don't mind me I guess`
`21:15.21`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`21:15.31`	ag`	`It's just that the user would notice a button faster than read the text`
`21:15.32`	`cladhaire`	ag`: Its not functionality that people should NEED to have
`21:15.39`	ag`	`targetting people?`
`21:15.51`	`cladhaire`	`if people re-bind LeftButton to something.. then they need it`
`21:15.58`	`cladhaire`	`but if peopel want left click to target people, they shouldn't rebind it`
`21:15.59`	`cladhaire`	`its that simple.`
`21:16.09`	ag`	`ah, well I though clique ate all buttons on install`
`21:16.13`	`vhaarr`	`that's also the problem with the button assignment widget in Clique; it doesn't look like something that accepts clicks at all.`
`21:16.16`	`cladhaire`	`no`
`21:16.21`	`cladhaire`	`clique does nothing on install`
`21:16.42`	`cladhaire`	`vhaarr: i know.. i have to work on that`
`21:16.55`	`vhaarr`	`cool`
`21:17.12`	`vhaarr`	`just make it a button?`
`21:17.12`	`cladhaire`	`it is a button`
`21:17.12`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`21:17.26`	`cladhaire`	`Clique does exactly what you tell it to, and nothing more.`
`21:17.27`	ag`	`something that looks like a button still doesn't indicate that any mousekey can be used to interact with it`
`21:17.31`	`cladhaire`	`thats really important to me.`
`21:17.48`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: a button in the sense that it looks like one`
`21:17.58`	`cladhaire`	`no, i wont use those ugly default buittons`
`21:18.01`	`cladhaire`	`i'll figure something out`
`21:18.26`	ag`	`vhaarr, but when I see a button I don't think that it is something I can interact with lets say, the middle mouse button`
`21:18.38`	ag`	`the "button look" is for left click only`
`21:18.41`	`cladhaire`	`Clique requires the user to understand what the mod is trying to do.`
`21:18.49`	`cladhaire`	`or to read`
`21:18.50`	`vhaarr`	ag`: that's why the button should say "Click here to set click combo."
`21:18.52`	`cladhaire`	`i wont ever be able to stop that.`
`21:19.03`	`cladhaire`	`vhaarr: Its still not evident what that MEANS`
`21:19.06`	`cladhaire`	`you know you can click on it.`
`21:19.12`	`CIA-11`	`03joshborke * r6150 10HealthMon/ (HealthMon.lua HealthMon.toc libs/):`
`21:19.12`	`CIA-11`	`HealthMon:`
`21:19.12`	`CIA-11`	`- added parserlib`
`21:19.12`	`CIA-11`	`- started calculating DPS/HPS`
`21:19.12`	`CIA-11`	`- looks cool but flies by too fast.`
`21:19.44`	`vhaarr`	`what do you mean "means"?`
`21:19.55`	`vhaarr`	`it's exactly what the button does`
`21:20.47`	`cladhaire`	`yes`
`21:20.57`	`cladhaire`	`but someone has to know that they can shift-control-right click on that button too.`
`21:21.00`	`cladhaire`	`and it already says that.`
`21:21.05`	`cladhaire`	`if you mouse over it.`
`21:21.24`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, feel like checking out my serialization/deserialization functions?`
`21:21.25`	`cladhaire`	`it'll be clearer.. but still`
`21:21.29`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: link?`
`21:21.38`	`ckknight`	`http://ace.pastebin.ca/105710`
`21:21.42`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: well making it look like a button with that text would make people mouse over it`
`21:21.47`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: there's nothing to make them do that now`
`21:22.16`	`-FISKER_Q	`someone help poor grayhoof out :)`
`21:22.19`	`-FISKER_Q	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1775.0.html :D`
`21:23.47`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: does the loadstring work?`
`21:24.09`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, no`
`21:24.13`	`ckknight`	`I'll take that part out`
`21:24.19`	`cladhaire`	`vhaarr: it will not be a standard button. It will be set so its obvious that its a click-region.`
`21:24.27`	`ckknight`	`for WoW, what is there works in standalone lua, though`
`21:24.32`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: looks nice`
`21:24.36`	`ckknight`	`yep`
`21:24.42`	`ckknight`	`it's a nice, small format`
`21:24.45`	`ckknight`	`with minimal memory churn`
`21:24.46`	`cladhaire`	`i dont like your declaration style`
`21:24.49`	`cladhaire`	`=0`
`21:24.53`	`ckknight`	`how so?`
`21:25.25`	`cladhaire`	`just seems excessive to be that explcit with scope for no apparent reason =)`
`21:25.39`	`cladhaire`	`but thats just me being picky =)`
`21:25.41`	`ckknight`	`wait, what do you mean?`
`21:25.49`	`ckknight`	`the do end stuff?`
`21:26.03`	`cladhaire`	`yes.. you explcitly defining scope`
`21:26.18`	`ckknight`	`yea, it's unnecessary, but it modularizes the functions`
`21:26.19`	`cladhaire`	`hehe`
`21:26.25`	`ckknight`	`it's all over AceOO`
`21:26.34`	`ckknight`	`kergoth designed it that way, and it's pretty nice`
`21:26.45`	`cladhaire`	`no its fine`
`21:26.53`	`cladhaire`	`i wa sjust expressing personal preference =)`
`21:26.58`	`ckknight`	`alright`
`21:26.58`	`*** part/#wowace Amadeo (i=amadeo@c-69-140-96-126.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`21:27.08`	`ckknight`	`I was mostly wondering how you thought of the algorithm`
`21:27.23`	`ckknight`	`whether you can see any bugs or memory/cpu fixes`
`21:27.40`	`cladhaire`	`well there's not much to be done with them, its a straightforward serialization`
`21:27.49`	`cladhaire`	`dont see anything i would change just by looking at it.`
`21:28.31`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`21:28.50`	`ckknight`	`:-)`
`21:29.39`	`ckknight`	`basically, AceComm will auto-serialize the values now`
`21:30.00`	`ckknight`	`so that you do :SendCommMessage(value, "distribution" [, "person"])`
`21:30.08`	`ckknight`	`value can be absolutely anything, not just a string now`
`21:30.16`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: so, acecomm will use the 1.12 hidden raidchannel?`
`21:30.19`	`ckknight`	`yes.`
`21:30.26`	`ckknight`	`I've built it with 1.12 in mind`
`21:30.27`	`Mikma`	`and what about before?`
`21:30.34`	`ckknight`	`I'll hack it back so that it works with 1.11`
`21:30.41`	`Mikma`	`neato`
`21:30.49`	`ckknight`	`maybe...`
`21:30.55`	`ckknight`	`probably, though`
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`21:31.01`	`Mikma`	`let's hope BW will get it in ;)`
`21:31.28`	`ckknight`	`so now AceComm can send absolutely any value over the stream, no matter the size, the content, or the type`
`21:31.32`	`ckknight`	`and that makes me happy :-)`
`21:31.35`	`Mikma`	`broadcasting events in BW would be really nice to have to sync the messages and timerbars etc`
`21:33.02`	`ckknight`	`actually, the length technically cuts off somewhere around 60000 bytes, but I sure hope no one actually tries to send that much over at once`
`21:33.23`	`*** join/#wowace Kaelten (n=Kaelten@68.63.3.183)`
`21:33.25`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ`
`21:33.27`	`ckknight`	`hey Kaelten`
`21:33.45`	`Kaelten`	`howdy`
`21:33.54`	`Shyva`	`Hello`
`21:34.15`	`Kaelten`	`hows it been going?`
`21:34.20`	`ckknight`	`I've been working on AceComm`
`21:34.33`	`Kaelten`	`thats cool`
`21:34.37`	`ckknight`	`almost done`
`21:34.43`	`ckknight`	`it's quite full-featured`
`21:34.45`	`Mikma`	`oh hey, one request for oRA (something)`
`21:34.54`	`Mikma`	`CT_RA_ADDMESSAGE or something like that would be nice to have`
`21:34.55`	`Kaelten`	`awesome`
`21:35.00`	`Kaelten`	`is it made for 1.12?`
`21:35.03`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`21:35.10`	`Kaelten`	`cool`
`21:35.10`	`ckknight`	`<ckknight> so now AceComm can send absolutely any value over the stream, no matter the size, the content, or the type`
`21:35.10`	`ckknight`	`<ckknight> and that makes me happy :-)`
`21:35.12`	`Mikma`	`since Advanced Timers use that feature too to broadcast spawntimers`
`21:35.34`	`cladhaire`	`cot is pretty`
`21:35.41`	`Kaelten`	`I have a project comming up soon that will take great advantage of AceComm`
`21:35.59`	`ckknight`	`alright`
`21:36.02`	`-FISKER_Q	`i can't wait to see some kind of guild management addons spawning from this`
`21:36.02`	`Kaelten`	`is the svn?`
`21:36.07`	`Kaelten`	`down rather`
`21:36.11`	`-FISKER_Q	`like raid calenders and an updated guildads`
`21:36.14`	`Kaelten`	`-FISKER_Q: hehe
`21:36.32`	`cladhaire`	`-FISKER_Q: No
`21:36.40`	`-FISKER_Q	`:(?`
`21:36.42`	`cladhaire`	`err`
`21:36.43`	`cladhaire`	`Kaelten: no`
`21:36.45`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`21:37.01`	`-FISKER_Q	`you're not the boss of my thoughts! :(`
`21:37.10`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten, there are 6 different kinds of distributions, WHISPER, GLOBAL (AceComm channel), and the 4 that SendAddonMessage provides`
`21:37.15`	`Kaelten`	`ya, actually I'm getting ready to start the groundwork for a guild/raid management addon`
`21:37.26`	`-FISKER_Q	`ooh`
`21:37.33`	`-FISKER_Q	`include some guildads functionality :P`
`21:37.37`	`Kaelten`	`hehe`
`21:37.43`	`Kaelten`	`maybe`
`21:37.48`	`-FISKER_Q	`was cool that you could advertize and browse other players recipes`
`21:37.51`	`Kaelten`	`ckknight: sounds awesome`
`21:37.54`	`ckknight`	`yes.`
`21:37.57`	`ckknight`	`it is awesome`
`21:38.29`	`Kaelten`	`hrm, I can acces the svn on the web browser but via tortise doesn't seem to work atm`
`21:38.45`	`Mikma`	`hey, has Teremus the Devourer been changed? he does not flap around blasted lands anymore, he flys in the sky now`
`21:38.54`	`ckknight`	`and it is: smaller, faster, more memory-happy, fuller-featured, and shinier than Sky`
`21:38.58`	`ckknight`	`mwahaha.`
`21:39.06`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`21:39.06`	`-FISKER_Q	`svn commandline is working here`
`21:39.15`	`-FISKER_Q	`Fetching external item into 'BigWigs\MetrognomeLib'`
`21:39.15`	`-FISKER_Q	`External at revision 6150.`
`21:39.29`	`Kaelten`	`hrm let me try again`
`21:39.51`	`Kaelten`	`yay its working again`
`21:40.14`	`Mikma`	`what? sky is the best addon/library/something there is`
`21:40.20`	`Mikma`	`there has never ever been better than it`
`21:40.30`	`ckknight`	`btw, I need someone to come to the 1.12 PvE server so I can test stuff`
`21:40.43`	`-FISKER_Q	`us?`
`21:40.45`	`Kaelten`	`ckknight: give me 5 and I'llb e on`
`21:40.53`	`ckknight`	`alright, good stuff`
`21:40.56`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten: I'm not sure why, but the OneView FuBar plugin does not remember the "Show text" setting when you relog.`
`21:41.03`	`ckknight`	`I just want to verify that the hidden channels work properly`
`21:42.22`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten: I'm guessing it's because you set \|self:SetText("OneView")\| in OneViewFu:OnTextUpdate()`
`21:42.29`	`Kaelten`	`ckknight: patching`
`21:42.30`	`vhaarr`	`but I don't know`
`21:42.39`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten, I haven't committed`
`21:42.50`	`Kaelten`	`ckknight: no patching for the test server`
`21:42.53`	`ckknight`	`I just need a warm body to open the channel`
`21:42.54`	`ckknight`	`oh, okay`
`21:43.06`	`Kaelten`	`vhaarr: possibly but I don't know jack about fubar plugin making :s`
`21:43.15`	`Kaelten`	`so I really need to bug ckknight about it but I don't want to bug him too much`
`21:43.32`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`21:43.34`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten: yeah I was considering bugging him too but decided to wait for you`
`21:43.38`	`ckknight`	`don't bug me`
`21:43.45`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`21:43.45`	`-FISKER_Q	`just delete fubar from the trunk "If my plugin won't work, none of it will work!"`
`21:43.48`	`vhaarr`	`we're not :P`
`21:46.12`	`Fritti`	`ckknight: is it possible for multiple dewdrop menus to be open at once?`
`21:46.19`	`ckknight`	`no`
`21:46.21`	`Fritti`	`in reference to :IsOpen(frame)`
`21:46.23`	`Fritti`	`ok`
`21:46.25`	`Fritti`	`great`
`21:46.33`	`ckknight`	`sarcasm?`
`21:46.36`	ag`	`what is Mer_MSN?`
`21:46.38`	`Fritti`	`no, real`
`21:46.45`	`Fritti`	`that way I can find out which dewdrop menu is open`
`21:46.45`	`ckknight`	`alright`
`21:46.52`	`ckknight`	`Dewdrop:IsOpen(frame)`
`21:46.55`	`-FISKER_Q	`isn't it that japanese msn like wow messenger?`
`21:47.07`	`Fritti`	`dunno if you ever considered :GetOpenParent() ?`
`21:47.19`	`Fritti`	`as in, return the parent frame of the current dewdrop menu`
`21:47.52`	`*** join/#wowace gnorlish (n=jaydee@santamonica-cuda4-69-169-79-146.vnnyca.adelphia.net)`
`21:49.16`	ag`	`-FISKER_Q, but why is it japanese?
`21:49.45`	`Kaelten`	`ckknight: waiting for blizz updater to do its thign`
`21:49.46`	`Mikma`	ag`: 1 request, switch Player and Party in aguf config
`21:49.52`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten, no rush`
`21:49.56`	`ckknight`	`gotta fix something`
`21:50.01`	`Mikma`	ag`: (swap the places so player will be first ;)
`21:50.02`	`-FISKER_Q	`I think it was a japanese guy who made it`
`21:50.07`	`-FISKER_Q	`and some other guy translated it`
`21:50.15`	ag`	`Mikma, I actually had that working`
`21:50.22`	ag`	`just forgot to... or something`
`21:50.41`	`Mikma`	ag`: hehe :)
`21:50.57`	`ckknight`	`oaky, fixed`
`21:51.00`	`ckknight`	`yays`
`21:51.03`	`ckknight`	`serialization!`
`21:51.26`	ag`	`-FISKER_Q, there seems to be an english version in branch,but is it any good?
`21:51.34`	`-FISKER_Q	`i dunno`
`21:51.40`	ag`	`:p`
`21:51.45`	`-FISKER_Q	`Only know it by reference :P`
`21:51.56`	`Kaelten`	`are you guys talking about the wow msn addon?`
`21:52.00`	ag`	`yeah`
`21:52.14`	`Mikma`	`Kaelten did translate it`
`21:52.15`	`Kaelten`	`oh, I did the english translation on the description at wowi`
`21:52.18`	`Mikma`	`check out wowi yeahj`
`21:52.34`	ag`	`though it looks a bit massive in the graphics`
`21:52.35`	`Kaelten`	`and I also uploaded the branch to the svn with some code cleanups`
`21:52.38`	ag`	`:-)`
`21:52.39`	`Kaelten`	`it still doesn't work quite right`
`21:52.51`	`Kaelten`	`but I'm not going to fix all his issues`
`21:52.59`	ag`	`how is it compared to the chat app Mikma is using?`
`21:53.01`	`Kaelten`	`I'd just end up rewriting it, which if I where to do I might as well ace it`
`21:53.08`	`Mikma`	ag`: it's massive in screen, but it's rather low on resources
`21:53.14`	`Kaelten`	`really its only functional for Friend chats.`
`21:53.31`	`Kaelten`	`what one is mikma using?`
`21:53.33`	`Mikma`	`chatr is pure love with IgnoreMore now since Mikk fixed it :D`
`21:54.04`	`Mikma`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2766`
`21:54.06`	`Mikma`	`this one`
`21:54.18`	`Kaelten`	`oh, I didn't like Chatr at all`
`21:54.54`	ag`	`I don't like that big "M" for the minimize button :P`
`21:55.02`	ag`	`It should be like a "_" instead`
`21:55.11`	ag`	`heh heh`
`21:55.16`	`-FISKER_Q	`btw the new addonmessage does nothing to prevent excessive spam from a lot of addons right?`
`21:55.40`	ag`	`nope`
`21:55.50`	ag`	`it's just a fancy chat channel that's hidden`
`21:57.04`	`Mikma`	`http://wow.reaktio.net/raid.jpg`
`21:57.27`	`Kaelten`	`oh ya, ckknight is AceComm metered to prevent spam disconnects?`
`21:57.37`	`vhaarr`	`haste: but yeah .. what is the spell cooldown scanner for? :P`
`21:57.54`	`haste`	`vhaarr: for my visual display of cooldowns`
`21:57.54`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten, yes, Mikk's ChatThrottleLib is used`
`21:58.03`	`vhaarr`	`haste: omnicc?`
`21:58.06`	`Kaelten`	`cool`
`21:58.18`	`ckknight`	`I just stuck it in AceComm proper`
`21:58.21`	`Kaelten`	`ok ckknight what addons do I need to help you test?`
`21:58.21`	`haste`	`vhaarr: Not exactly`
`21:58.31`	`haste`	`vhaarr: I don't have 'global' abilities on my actionbar`
`21:58.35`	`haste`	`so it doesn't help me much`
`21:58.37`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten, you just have to be a warm body and we have to join a raid, then a party`
`21:58.45`	`Kaelten`	`k`
`21:58.48`	`haste`	`and I don't want to show 1-2 more actionbars just for cooldowns`
`21:58.49`	`ckknight`	`other way around`
`21:58.50`	`Kaelten`	`so no addons?`
`21:58.55`	`vhaarr`	`haste: /cast --Spellname`
`21:58.58`	`vhaarr`	`haste: for macros`
`21:59.08`	`vhaarr`	`I bet you already knew that and it's something else, though.`
`21:59.17`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten, nope.`
`21:59.23`	`haste`	`vhaarr: I'm confused now.`
`21:59.31`	`haste`	`why did you write that?`
`21:59.32`	`ckknight`	`since I see the messages I send`
`21:59.43`	`vhaarr`	`haste: it adds the cooldown of the spell to the button`
`21:59.44`	`ckknight`	`which I will disable in AceComm later`
`21:59.55`	`haste`	`vhaarr: That STILL doesn't help me`
`21:59.57`	`ckknight`	`so that if sender == UnitName("player"), it'll return out`
`21:59.59`	`haste`	`since I don't SEE the button`
`22:00.03`	`vhaarr`	`haste: ah`
`22:03.09`	`Kaelten`	`ckknight: I'm in as Kaelten`
`22:03.24`	`ckknight`	`you Alliance?`
`22:03.35`	`ckknight`	`go Horde`
`22:03.37`	`Kaelten`	`yep`
`22:03.39`	`Kaelten`	`bah`
`22:03.40`	`ckknight`	`I'm Horde :-P`
`22:03.40`	`Kaelten`	`one sec`
`22:03.51`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: hm, ALS shows my rank as "Stone Guard" for a friend of mine, but we're alliance, so it should say "Knight"`
`22:04.21`	`ckknight`	`Stone Guard is cooler`
`22:04.43`	`Kaelten`	`k, I'm on`
`22:06.04`	`ckknight`	`feel free to alt-tab out`
`22:06.19`	`ckknight`	`I just needed a party member :-P`
`22:07.50`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`22:07.51`	`Kaelten`	`k`
`22:10.49`	`Tuplad`	`Periodic Table should get some updates >:\|`
`22:11.06`	`Kemayo`	`Quirky.`
`22:12.03`	`Kemayo`	`What localization are you in?`
`22:12.45`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: en_GB`
`22:13.01`	`vhaarr`	`which is just en_US, really`
`22:13.14`	`*** join/#wowace Jens (i=Jens@unaffiliated/jens)`
`22:14.07`	`Kemayo`	`Okay. Could you type "/script print(AuldLangSyne.FACTION, FACTION_ALLIANCE)" into a chatbox, and tell me what it dumps into the chat frame?`
`22:14.33`	`Kemayo`	`(I have to confess to not having tested this on an Alliance character. :D`
`22:14.39`	`vhaarr`	`"nil Alliance"`
`22:15.02`	`vhaarr`	`I'm not getting the error though`
`22:15.04`	`vhaarr`	`my friend is`
`22:15.07`	`vhaarr`	`I told him to type it`
`22:15.42`	`vhaarr`	`he gets an error`
`22:16.13`	`Mikma`	`i get an error too :)`
`22:17.15`	`vhaarr`	`eh`
`22:17.33`	`Kemayo`	`...this is what I get for trusting the AceDB-2.0 docs...`
`22:17.48`	`Kemayo`	`(And for doing absolutely no testing, of course.)`
`22:17.53`	`vhaarr`	`"Attempt to index global AuldLangSyne (a nil value)"`
`22:17.57`	`vhaarr`	`and he has the addon loaded`
`22:18.10`	`Kemayo`	`That's just weird.`
`22:18.39`	`Kemayo`	`Does he get the same error if he tries to print something like AuldLangSyne.name?`
`22:19.19`	`CIA-11`	`03ag * r6151 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames-enUS.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):`
`22:19.20`	`CIA-11`	`ag_UnitFrames -`
`22:19.20`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:19.39`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: yes, same error`
`22:20.28`	`Kemayo`	`Huh.`
`22:20.49`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: sec, apparently he did something wrong`
`22:20.52`	`vhaarr`	`ah`
`22:21.07`	`vhaarr`	`he wrote "Auld" with 'i' not 'L'`
`22:21.14`	`vhaarr`	`he gets "nil Alliance", too`
`22:21.50`	`vhaarr`	`strange that AuldLangSyne.FACTION is nil though?`
`22:22.14`	`Kemayo`	`This is strange, yes. I thought that AceDB was supposed to set that up.`
`22:25.54`	`ckknight`	`back`
`22:26.27`	`CIA-11`	`03kemayo * r6152 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.lua: AuldLangSyne - Change faction handling for PVP ranks.`
`22:26.42`	`Kemayo`	`That should work.`
`22:27.23`	`Kaelten`	`wb`
`22:29.43`	`Kemayo`	`Okay, I can indeed confirm that it works.`
`22:29.50`	ag`	`Is Ora2 stable and what modules work?`
`22:31.02`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: works now, thanks alot`
`22:31.27`	`Kemayo`	`No problem. This just confirms that I should test these things as both factions before committing...`
`22:32.15`	`vhaarr`	`hehe`
`22:36.09`	`Kemayo`	`...is TinyTip not saving the "scale" setting for anyone else?`
`22:36.12`	`Neronix`	`Kyahx: Thanks for fixing DC`
`22:36.58`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: I think it has been fixed in SVN`
`22:37.01`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: if you update`
`22:38.21`	`Kemayo`	`Alas, for I updated about five minutes ago, and it is not fixed.`
`22:42.03`	`CIA-11`	`03neronix * r6153 10DeuceCommander/Libs/MyMinimapButton/ (. MyMinimapButton.lua): DeuceCommander - Added MyMinimapButton back to the libs list. I'll convert this to FuBar 2 when I get time after finishing NS2`
`22:57.36`	`Tek`	`god I love this guy`
`22:57.48`	`Tek`	`furry artists with sarcastic descripitons win`
`22:57.56`	`Tek`	`"bulls are fun to draw because they are fun to masturbate to"`
`22:58.45`	`haste`	`errr`
`22:58.50`	`haste`	`oh`
`22:59.42`	`ckknight`	`AceComm all works`
`22:59.51`	`ckknight`	`just adding the "GROUP" distribution now`
`23:00.04`	`ckknight`	`which conforms to "BATTLEGROUND"/"RAID"/"PARTY" depending on the situation`
`23:00.48`	`Neronix`	`How expensive is table.concat?`
`23:00.56`	`Mikk`	`compared to what?`
`23:01.06`	`Mikk`	`it's heaps cheaper than concatting a big string incrementally yourself`
`23:01.10`	`Neronix`	`hmm, I'll need to pastebin`
`23:01.12`	`Mikk`	`CPU wise that is`
`23:01.24`	`Neronix`	`Got a problem with generating text for the NS2 Fubar plugin`
`23:01.24`	`Mikk`	`actually it's cheaper RAM wise too`
`23:01.34`	`Mikk`	`even if you just GC the table in the end`
`23:01.36`	`ckknight`	`"alpha" .. "bravo" .. "charlie" is cheaper than table.concat({"alpha", "bravo", "charlie", "")`
`23:01.39`	`ckknight`	`_but_`
`23:01.52`	`Neronix`	`This stuff's dynamic ckk`
`23:01.52`	`ckknight`	`local x = "alpha" .. "bravo" x = x .. "charlie" is more expensive`
`23:01.54`	`ckknight`	`basicaly.`
`23:01.57`	`Neronix`	`I have modules`
`23:01.57`	`ckknight`	`basically*`
`23:02.09`	`Neronix`	`In that case, table.concat it is`
`23:02.31`	`Neronix`	`with a DestroyTable before it`
`23:02.42`	`Neronix`	`Even though it takes 20 seconds to run 100k times in my test case`
`23:03.01`	`Mikk`	`I've used table.concat to optimize string concats`
`23:03.18`	`Mikk`	`Building several KB of output from 10-50 byte substrings`
`23:03.20`	`Neronix`	`I'll try it with a stock 5.0 interpreter rather than the one clad put in Scite`
`23:03.36`	`Mikk`	`Neronix: Get clad's latest interpreter`
`23:03.39`	`Mikk`	`It's faster than stock`
`23:03.53`	`Mikk`	`http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/wowbench has it`
`23:04.00`	`Neronix`	`How fast compared to the wow interpreter?`
`23:04.06`	`Mikk`	`His first is about 5 times slower than stock`
`23:04.10`	`Mikk`	`No idea`
`23:04.14`	`Mikk`	`I don't load wowbench under wow :-)`
`23:04.20`	`Neronix`	`^^`
`23:04.24`	`Neronix`	`thanks for the info`
`23:05.00`	`ckknight`	`woot`
`23:05.08`	`ckknight`	`AceComm now has "GROUP"`
`23:06.20`	`Neronix`	`oo, 4 secs in stock`
`23:06.47`	`Mikk`	`clad's new seems to be 20% faster`
`23:06.58`	`Mikk`	`at least for loading wowbench it is`
`23:07.13`	`Tek`	`I think you missed a noun`
`23:07.20`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`23:07.21`	`cladhaire`	`binaries.`
`23:08.17`	`cladhaire`	`which language is that?`
`23:08.21`	`Mikk`	`swedish`
`23:08.28`	`cladhaire`	`i love languages`
`23:08.59`	`Neronix`	`I'm happy with the way my test case performs in the stock interpreter`
`23:09.09`	`Neronix`	`4 secs for 100k runs, and 1kb mem increase`
`23:09.24`	`ckknight`	`I love languages, too`
`23:09.26`	`ckknight`	`weird...`
`23:09.30`	`ckknight`	`me and clad have something in common`
`23:09.32`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`23:09.33`	`Neronix`	`Now I need to change everything I wrote before work`
`23:09.46`	`cladhaire`	`we have more than that in common`
`23:09.48`	`cladhaire`	`that's why we butt heads =)`
`23:09.51`	`ckknight`	`lol, I know`
`23:10.24`	`haste`	`Industrial: not sure if it was fucked - since I was AFK ;D`
`23:10.40`	`ckknight`	`~emulate swedish chef`
`23:10.41`	`purl`	`Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork!`
`23:11.18`	`Industrial`	`haste, :P`
`23:14.54`	`*** join/#wowace steino (n=stein-iv@ti531210a080-1470.bb.online.no)`
`23:15.21`	`Neronix`	`Bah, more and more people are trying to write better combat mods`
`23:15.41`	`Neronix`	`If people want to get dirty with me, I'll be dirty back =/`
`23:17.48`	`haste`	`haha`
`23:18.17`	`cladhaire`	`"She was in a Ricky Martin Video"`
`23:22.39`	`Saroz`	`Doh, I almost tracked down a memory leak, when AV ended and raid got disbanded`
`23:24.24`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`23:24.28`	`cladhaire`	`signt onto draka`
`23:31.22`	`*** join/#wowace Jarenthal (n=Roo@cpe-066-057-087-213.nc.res.rr.com)`
`23:33.40`	`Fritti`	`hmm, looks like it's impossible to use :StartMoving() on a hidden frame :-/`
`23:37.41`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi * r6154 10oCD/ (. casting.lua core.lua hooks.lua oCD.toc):`
`23:37.41`	`CIA-11`	`oCD 'otravi_Cooldowns':`
`23:37.41`	`CIA-11`	`- Initial import.`
`23:37.41`	`CIA-11`	`- Partly working, it should pick up spells at least, but not macros (yet).`
`23:37.41`	`CIA-11`	`- If you want to use try it, fetch: Deformat, GratuityLib, CandyBar and PaintChipsLib.`
`23:38.00`	`haste`	`oh, forgot Ace2 on that list :p`
`23:38.11`	`Tuplad`	`:o`
`23:38.21`	`Neronix`	`what's that like?`
`23:38.28`	`haste`	`http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/addons/oCD/WoWScrnShot_072906_233856.png << like that atm :p`
`23:38.38`	`Neronix`	`is it similar to that mod that gave kergoth grief?`
`23:38.53`	`haste`	`yes`
`23:39.04`	`haste`	`only that I don't scan the spellbok three times on a UseAction`
`23:39.05`	`Neronix`	`I see`
`23:39.17`	`haste`	`oh, and on a OnUpdate :p`
`23:39.21`	`haste`	`like the other mod did`
`23:40.57`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi * r6155 10oCD/oCD.toc: oCD - Tweaked the TOC.`
`23:41.28`	`haste`	`damn, forgot to remove Dewdrop from the OptionalDeps :(`
`23:43.25`	`vhaarr`	`haste: so what you're saying is that oCD is a replacement for http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3988-1-cooldown-timer-bars-cont.html ?`
`23:43.52`	`vhaarr`	`http://static.curse-gaming.com/mscreens/8684.jpg for a scrshot`
`23:44.03`	`haste`	`That's an addon I didn't know about ;D`
`23:44.32`	`vhaarr`	`I think the bar looks there are imba, btw`
`23:44.34`	`haste`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4575 << was thinking about that one`
`23:44.36`	`vhaarr`	`CandyBars should copy it`
`23:44.44`	`haste`	`no, CandyBar should stay as they are`
`23:44.56`	`cladhaire`	`do any of the ocb mods handle aimed show not?`
`23:45.00`	`cladhaire`	`shot`
`23:45.08`	`vhaarr`	`urk, that one looks bad haste :P`
`23:45.23`	`CIA-11`	`03saroz * r6156 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Optimize debuff check`
`23:45.25`	`haste`	`cladhaire: I've added it to my local copy`
`23:45.42`	`haste`	`but I'm working on four different things at once, so it goes slightly slow :p`
`23:45.44`	`haste`	`and leveling my rogue :p`
`23:46.32`	`haste`	`haha, the author of the cooldown timer bars, is the one who forked oUF2 :D`
`23:46.58`	`cladhaire`	`haste: hrm.`
`23:46.59`	`cladhaire`	`k`
`23:51.15`	`haste`	`Currently trying to figure out how I'm going to get the number of bars currently running =\`
`23:53.40`	`vhaarr`	`haste: CandyBars should get bar grouping`
`23:53.57`	`haste`	`or a way to return the current amount of bars my addon has ;)`
`23:54.12`	`vhaarr`	`so you could say RegisterBar(..., "myGroup") and it would automatically position them relative to the first one in that group`
`23:54.36`	`haste`	`[Ammo]: You here?`
`23:54.40`	`*** part/#wowace Mikk (i=bofh@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com)`
`23:54.54`	`haste`	`Probably not, when I look at the time`
`23:56.53`	`vhaarr`	`Kyahx: mind if I convert transcriptor to ace2 for the heck of it?`
`23:57.01`	`vhaarr`	`and FB2`

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