| 00:02.13 | wereHamster | "Ace is dead. Long live Ace!" ?? |
| 00:03.06 | evl | ace1 -> ace2 |
| 00:04.22 | wereHamster | why not "Long live Ace2" ? |
| 00:05.08 | *** part/#wowace Grumpey (n=Owner@dialup-4.88.22.186.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) |
| 00:26.18 | wereHamster | and which eent is fired when I use the trinket? |
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| 00:26.18 | mjc | anyone have recommendations for a noob druid tank? lvl10 and climbing |
| 00:26.18 | mjc | :D |
| 00:26.18 | mjc | gear wise |
| 00:26.19 | haste | Mikma: huh? |
| 00:26.19 | Mikma | haste: yeah ctrl+a d :D |
| 00:26.19 | haste | Mikma: huh? |
| 00:26.21 | Mikma | <0243> ::: Tuplad [n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be] has joined #wowace |
| 00:26.21 | haste | Mikma: aah, I was attempting to sleep back there |
| 00:26.21 | haste | but I failed =\ |
| 00:26.21 | maia | Mikma: I need pet bar support in Bartender, bohoo! :( |
| 00:26.21 | yacoob | I have a question about http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Ace2_Memory_Concerns |
| 00:26.21 | yacoob | "That extra memory is recliamed at the next garbage collect cycle" - so there's time when this extra memory IS actually used? |
| 00:26.21 | Mikma | maia: there is |
| 00:26.21 | maia | Mikma: hmm, it doesnt show at all. strange. |
| 00:26.59 | Tuplad | Mikma: like w00tf ? |
| 00:34.11 | eternally777 | heh, it does for me |
| 00:34.28 | eternally777 | Before the first GC, I show tons of memory used. |
| 00:39.02 | Tekkub | how does one apply a diff with svn command line... |
| 00:39.12 | Tekkub | tort doesn't like this one format of diffs |
| 00:39.16 | Tekkub | http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=10&a=viewbug&bugid=1909 |
| 00:42.11 | Mikma | maia: is it hidden? ;) |
| 00:42.16 | Mikma | maia: it's bar6 or 7 |
| 00:42.37 | maia | oh. |
| 00:42.50 | eternally777 | Is there a function to return the current TOC version? |
| 00:43.29 | wereHamster | no |
| 00:43.46 | wereHamster | but you can get the build version |
| 00:44.01 | Theondry | where can I learn more about the "or" thingie? (as in "variablename = variablename or {}) |
| 00:44.04 | Rophy | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full3045.jpg |
| 00:44.10 | maia | Mikma: gonna try that in a bit, thanks. |
| 00:44.13 | wereHamster | GetBuildInfo() |
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| 00:44.25 | Kemayo | Theondry: http://www.lua.org/pil |
| 00:44.46 | maia | Theondry: what you posted equals: if variablename then variablename = variablename else variablename = {} end |
| 00:45.03 | Kemayo | More specifically: http://www.lua.org/pil/3.3.html |
| 00:45.40 | Rophy | Mikma, not really trying to advertise simlpe combat log (ok I am), but SCL can does exactly what SidebarCombatLog does :p |
| 00:46.03 | Theondry | Thanks, maia. that's what I needed. (Thanks, also, Kemayo. I'd found that, but wasn't pulling out what maia said from the text.) |
| 00:46.21 | Mikma | Rophy: make a default themes in |
| 00:46.33 | Mikma | Rophy: "normal mode" "sbcl" etc |
| 00:46.45 | Mikma | then people can select them without having to go throught 200 options :D |
| 00:47.19 | Rophy | I keep adding new customizations by request, so still don't have time to make a few 'default themes'. |
| 00:47.21 | Theondry | maia: is it safe to use IterateRoster()? (you'd said somewhere that you weren't composting it, and it was garbagey or something.) |
| 00:47.41 | maia | Theondry: if you're not using it 10x a second, its safe to use it. |
| 00:48.04 | Theondry | K. thanks. I'll make sure to use it 11x a second then. =p |
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| 00:48.39 | Rophy | But yeah, I think it's cool if you can select from a few themes by the drop down menu, mikma. |
| 00:49.03 | Mikma | Rophy: yeah it would be effective and easy |
| 00:49.06 | CIA-11 | 03maia 07maia * r8626 10SpecialEventsEmbed/ (. SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/): SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0: creating empty branch |
| 00:49.27 | Rophy | SidebarCombatLog's code is 1/3 of SCL though, that's what I paid for all the customizations. |
| 00:49.33 | Theondry | maia: would IterateRoster() be faster than If UnitIsPlayer(:GetUnitIDFromName(name))? |
| 00:49.35 | Kebinusan | 1.12 tomorrow |
| 00:49.54 | maia | Theondry: huh? thats not a valid code. |
| 00:50.00 | maia | Kebinusan: confirmed? |
| 00:50.09 | Kebinusan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=9607117&p=1&tmp=1#post9607117 |
| 00:50.14 | Rophy | So if you only want exactly what SidebarCL do, then may be just replace SCL with it, since addons are really doing exactly the same thing. |
| 00:50.16 | Kebinusan | well to apply a patch |
| 00:50.21 | Kebinusan | I guess it could be something else |
| 00:50.53 | Theondry | bleh... sorry. Um... for name in pairs(RL.roster) do if UnitIsPlayer(RL:GetUnitIDFromName(name))then dostuff end end |
| 00:51.40 | Theondry | versus for RL:IterateRoster() do dostuff end |
| 00:51.55 | maia | Theondry: you just want to access the player, not anyone else? |
| 00:51.59 | Theondry | Yes. |
| 00:52.04 | Theondry | oh, no |
| 00:52.09 | Mikma | is the druids fixed in that patch? |
| 00:52.16 | Theondry | Only the PCs, not the pets. |
| 00:54.31 | Theondry | UnitIsPlayer (as I understand it) tells you if the unit is a human player, not just if it's "player". |
| 00:55.35 | CIA-11 | 03maia 07maia * r8627 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/: SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0: branching for RosterLib integration |
| 00:56.05 | MentalPower | Theondry: your understanding is correct |
| 00:57.29 | Thrae | Rophy: That SidebarCombatLog looks very sexy. It looks sexy enough to make me want to get back to work on breaking Parser-2.0. |
| 00:57.45 | maia | gah. I just created one subfolder too much. |
| 00:57.52 | Tekkub | tigg, unified diff nixt time, kay? thanks! bye! |
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| 00:58.19 | Rophy | Thrae: Go break it :p |
| 00:58.25 | maia | Tekkub: mind if I keep branches/SpecialEventsEmbed/maia/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0, or do you want me to replace it? |
| 00:58.31 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r8628 10BigWigs/Other/Onyxia.lua: |
| 00:58.31 | CIA-11 | BigWigs |
| 00:58.31 | CIA-11 | - Applied diff from tigg that, like, fixed something with ony, I guess.... |
| 00:58.52 | Tekkub | if it works and doesn't break the standing API, merge it back |
| 00:59.09 | Rophy | SCL can does exactly, 100% what SidebarCombatLog though, after setting up. |
| 00:59.22 | maia | Tekkub, take a look at it first. let me commit my changes - until now I only copied yours (into the wrong folder ;) |
| 00:59.45 | Thrae | Rophy: Does SBCL use the default ChatFrames like SCL? |
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| 01:00.16 | Rophy | Yes Thrae. |
| 01:00.41 | Rophy | Looking at the source code of SidebarCL and it's really a simplified SCL :p |
| 01:01.03 | Thrae | Rophy: This is one thing I want to use ParserLib to obtain -- http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1945.0.html |
| 01:01.21 | Rophy | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full3045.jpg |
| 01:01.44 | Rophy | Something like this, after removing the buttons on chatframes? |
| 01:03.06 | Thrae | Rophy: Looks like Bant was thinking of icons. |
| 01:03.13 | Rophy | er....wait |
| 01:03.25 | Rophy | do you mean the one in the first post |
| 01:03.36 | Rophy | or the one by Andalia? |
| 01:03.48 | Rophy | the one posted by Bant is Battle Chat |
| 01:03.53 | Thrae | Yeah, looking at the two now, I don't see the difference. |
| 01:04.07 | Thrae | No no, Bant made up that drawing. |
| 01:04.23 | Thrae | It's a drawing made in Photoshop, Bant doesn't code. |
| 01:04.34 | Rophy | oh |
| 01:05.32 | CIA-11 | 03maia 07maia * r8629 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0: RosterLib support when available. |
| 01:05.34 | Rophy | anyway if all you want is exactly what SidebarCL doing, then use it. |
| 01:05.59 | Rophy | more customization = bigger and more complex, probably slower too, that's the way it is. |
| 01:06.05 | maia | Tekkub: want to take a look at it and merge it back if its okay? |
| 01:06.14 | Thrae | Yeah, SidebarSCL just needs a little tweaking to look like that, icons aside (I don't think the icons are necessary). |
| 01:06.19 | maia | Tekkub: in theory, it shouldnt break anything. |
| 01:06.49 | Rophy | Thrae, I was trying to SCL does exactly one job, so I didn't touch the ChatFrames at all. |
| 01:07.03 | Tekkub | just commit your shit so I can look |
| 01:07.09 | Thrae | Right, you could easily put 2 ChatFrames together and hide their buttons. |
| 01:07.12 | Tekkub | if you so want me t olook |
| 01:07.18 | Rophy | yup, I just didnt do that. |
| 01:07.32 | Thrae | It's up to the user to do that. |
| 01:07.57 | maia | Tekkub: I did commit it, just about 2min ago (see above) |
| 01:07.57 | Rophy | That's what I thought, but then SidebarCL looks cooler than SCL :p |
| 01:08.06 | Tekkub | :P |
| 01:08.20 | Thrae | SidebarCL looks like it uses the default chat frames? |
| 01:08.22 | maia | Tekkub: I just don't want to merge it back before you've given your okay and maybe changed some stuff |
| 01:08.28 | Tekkub | still dealing with dipshit husband's NAS bullshit at his work |
| 01:08.43 | Tekkub | you have my ok from the start |
| 01:08.49 | Tekkub | don't break shit, I d on't mind |
| 01:08.55 | Rophy | yes |
| 01:09.06 | Nightdew | Tekkub: when you looked into the spell events crap.. did you investigate the next melee crap? |
| 01:09.06 | Theondry | maia: Does RosterLib_RosterChanged spit back people who've left the group also? If so, how do I identify them? |
| 01:09.20 | maia | Theondry: yes, it does. |
| 01:09.22 | Tekkub | I don't melee..... |
| 01:09.32 | maia | Theondry: people who left don't have a unitid. |
| 01:09.34 | Nightdew | never played hunter? |
| 01:09.45 | Tekkub | hunter's don't melee :P |
| 01:09.48 | Theondry | maia: Thanks. |
| 01:09.48 | Thrae | Actually SCL and SidebarCL would probably be better off to use dynamically created ChatFrame objects, as most Timestamp implementations just loop over ChatFrame1-7 and see which are shown. |
| 01:09.55 | maia | aka you'll still have their name as argument, and also .oldunitid, but .unitid is nil |
| 01:09.56 | Nightdew | they have next melee attacks |
| 01:10.12 | Tekkub | *scrolls back again* "I don't melee" |
| 01:10.31 | Nightdew | lol |
| 01:10.54 | Rophy | Thare, actually a few people requested to add timetamps to SCL. |
| 01:11.00 | Rophy | Thrae, |
| 01:11.01 | Theondry | maia: and people who join the raid have a .unitid but .oldunitid will be nil? |
| 01:11.08 | maia | Theondry: exactly. |
| 01:11.08 | Tekkub | yes, my only 60 is a hunter, no I didn't look at it, I never did because _I DON'T MELEE_ |
| 01:11.17 | Rophy | and I told them to install a timestamp mode themselves. |
| 01:11.20 | Tekkub | maia.... |
| 01:11.32 | Thrae | Rophy: Right, that makes sense for SCL but not for the Sidebar where space is limited. |
| 01:11.35 | Tekkub | oh wait you're using bucket event right? nevermind |
| 01:11.49 | maia | huh? |
| 01:12.01 | maia | yeah, I am. thought thats what I should do... :) |
| 01:12.14 | Tekkub | was gonna say doesn't RosterLib_UnitChanged pass a unitid not a table of id's, but bukket :P |
| 01:12.58 | Rophy | hm.... I think it's better to let them find another timestmap mod which can configure on what chatframes to add timestamp. Rather than creating another ChatFrame, leaving the default ChatFrames unused and stay in memory, Thrae. |
| 01:13.03 | Thrae | Speaking of Combat Scanning addons, is there a library which caches scans of raid targets? |
| 01:13.38 | Rophy | I think you can add that piece of info to RosterLib easily? |
| 01:14.33 | Tekkub | maia, nix the "self:RegisterBucketEvent("RosterLib_UnitChanged",0.2)" in that "if oldlib:IsEventRegistered" block |
| 01:14.49 | Tekkub | you registered it when you called registerevents(self) |
| 01:15.01 | maia | I didnt really understand what you're doing in there anyway. |
| 01:15.10 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r8630 10Detox/Detox.lua: Detox: un-localized debuff types again. Guys, if you're using a localized version, can you please first check yourself to then tell me to change something, instead of making blind assumtions? thanks. |
| 01:15.21 | Tain | "Money can't buy happiness, but neither can poverty." |
| 01:15.57 | Tekkub | I'm registereing shit on PEW |
| 01:16.06 | Tekkub | so it's not running during zoning |
| 01:16.47 | maia | Tekkub: blizzard changed that - it will auto-unregister everything on zoning since patch 1.10 or 1.11 - missed it? |
| 01:17.09 | Tekkub | no it won't, they optomized some bad event |
| 01:17.15 | Tekkub | *events |
| 01:17.18 | Tekkub | like bag update |
| 01:17.20 | maia | hmm |
| 01:17.35 | maia | Tekkub: well, the only thing I'm not entirely sure is the following: |
| 01:18.22 | Thrae | Events definately don't automatically unregister on PEW, I can attest to that as someone who does everything on ADDON_LOADED. |
| 01:18.32 | maia | in order to not have RosterLib doing stuff when all addons that are using RosterLib are on standby, I ask addon developers to call RosterLib:Enable() and :Disable() - internally I could how many enables I have, and if that drops to zero, I stop all scheduled events. |
| 01:18.38 | Thrae | Without using AceEvent, etc. |
| 01:18.53 | maia | now is my change in SE-Aura correct, regarding enabling/disabling? |
| 01:19.57 | maia | Thrae: thanks for the note. |
| 01:20.26 | Thrae | maia: What's wrong with requiring the user to unregister themselves from the library? Or is that what lib:Disable() does? |
| 01:20.40 | eternally777 | So after 1.12, there will be no more need to "broadcast" a channel to the raid and stuff like that? |
| 01:20.47 | maia | thats what Disable() does |
| 01:21.16 | Thrae | Ah, I got confused, I thought that actually disabled the library regardless of how many people registered with it. |
| 01:21.35 | maia | Thrae: I just want to make sure that SE-Aura doesn't accidentially call :Enable() a dozen times without disabling inbetween, as it would mess with my counter ;) |
| 01:21.45 | maia | Thrae: yah, probably bad method naming. |
| 01:21.46 | Thrae | I would have called it something like :UnregisterAllEvents(addonName) |
| 01:22.02 | maia | Thrae: noted for 3.0 ;) |
| 01:22.35 | maia | don't want to make API changes for a while, so I'll have to stick with what I have right now. |
| 01:22.41 | Thrae | eternally777: Eventually, when everyone adopts the new standard. |
| 01:23.09 | Thrae | maia: Obviously that would require a new MAJOR version. |
| 01:23.26 | maia | has anyone seen CTRA2 yet? As its in beta it might be released within the next days (assuming patch 1.12 is tomorrow) |
| 01:23.32 | Tekkub | uh, you should pass a self with the enable/disable so that you don't double-disable and fuck something up |
| 01:23.58 | maia | Tekkub: hmm. |
| 01:24.28 | maia | Tekkub: any suggestion on how to do that without breaking existing addons? Or shall I wait for 3.0? |
| 01:24.59 | Tekkub | rl:Enable(self) ..... RosterLib:Enable(mod) clients[mod] = true |
| 01:25.00 | maia | someone also suggested to listen if an addon registers an event instead - which might be a nice solution instead. |
| 01:25.14 | Tekkub | breaking existing... yea... |
| 01:25.17 | Tekkub | frankly |
| 01:25.18 | maia | :( |
| 01:25.27 | Tekkub | is it a big perf hit to have RL running? |
| 01:25.48 | maia | not really. still dont think it should run when noone needs it |
| 01:25.59 | Tekkub | then don't load it |
| 01:26.11 | Tekkub | if it's loaded it's running... that's how I do SE |
| 01:26.41 | maia | Tekkub: problem is that addons that are put into standby mode don't tell their libraries that they are sleeping. |
| 01:27.14 | Tekkub | <--- disables addons he's not using, doesn't put them in standby |
| 01:27.24 | maia | well, lets continue that discussion once I plan to do a major revision ;) |
| 01:27.26 | Thrae | maia: Does RosterLib just fire out Custom Events? |
| 01:27.50 | maia | 'just', instead of what else... ? |
| 01:27.57 | Tekkub | I know, I'm an ass, but addons get disabled and the UI reloaded... MODULES can go in standby, sure |
| 01:28.18 | Thrae | Instead of an interactive library, like Library:INeedInfoFromYou() |
| 01:28.21 | maia | Tekkub: well, any other suggestions besides nixing that one line? |
| 01:28.22 | Tekkub | but there's just no real clean way to "standby" a whole damn addon and it's libraries and blah blah blah |
| 01:28.35 | Tekkub | so, disable reload is the only way I support |
| 01:28.52 | Tekkub | I gave you my suggestion, but it's not backwards compat |
| 01:29.13 | Tekkub | if they're mixin'd they do get called on a standby |
| 01:29.18 | Tekkub | use that |
| 01:29.18 | maia | Tekkub: yeah - I don't want to do a major revision within the next month or two. |
| 01:29.28 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire 07Ace2 * r8631 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidOptions.lua): |
| 01:29.28 | CIA-11 | PerfectRaid: |
| 01:29.28 | CIA-11 | * Custom sorting now appears to work =) |
| 01:29.28 | CIA-11 | * /praid sort custom warrior healer mygroup |
| 01:29.28 | CIA-11 | * /praid sort custom odd even |
| 01:29.29 | CIA-11 | * /praid sort custom warrior healer |
| 01:29.31 | CIA-11 | * /praid sort custom mygroup 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 |
| 01:29.38 | maia | right now I'd just like to have SE-Aura support RosterLib to reduce hickups :) |
| 01:30.02 | Tekkub | if you want proper standby crap, use mixins |
| 01:30.12 | Tekkub | don't know if it'll work with a library though |
| 01:30.13 | maia | cladhaire: does "/praid sort custom men women" work too? ;) |
| 01:30.36 | Thrae | maia: The reason I ask is because addons on Standby should unregister all its events, then re-register in Enable. |
| 01:30.38 | Mikma | he's not here |
| 01:30.49 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.18 | Thrae | cladhaire is only in wowi-lounge for some reason |
| 01:31.33 | Mikma | they had a fight with ckknight some time ago |
| 01:31.33 | maia | Thrae: well, then libraries require the addons to at least register a single event though. Its possible to use RosterLib without listening to a single event. |
| 01:31.42 | Mikma | they both haven't been in here after that |
| 01:32.16 | maia | think they couldnt decide if memory or speed was more important. |
| 01:32.35 | Thrae | maia: Ah, gotcha. I just wanted to make a distinction between RosterLib and passive addons that just use AceEvent to trigger Custom Events. |
| 01:33.06 | maia | Tekkub: so, shall I nix that one line you mentioned initially, commit and merge back? |
| 01:33.20 | Tekkub | uh, yea sure whatever, I don't know anymore |
| 01:33.34 | maia | Tekkub: okay. |
| 01:33.36 | Tekkub | dealing with hubby's bullshit still |
| 01:33.41 | maia | *crosses fingers* |
| 01:33.55 | Tekkub | about to that "I don't care about your fucking issues" point with anything techie |
| 01:35.04 | CIA-11 | 03maia 07maia * r8632 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0: removed an unnecessary event registration |
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| 01:40.13 | CIA-11 | 03pprovost 07PProvost * r8633 10FuBar_PoisonFu/Core.lua: |
| 01:40.14 | CIA-11 | FuBar_PoisonFu: Working Branch |
| 01:40.14 | CIA-11 | - Added time remaining and charges remaining to tooltip. |
| 01:40.14 | CIA-11 | - Cleaned up a few comments |
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| 01:44.22 | Tekkub | gmail needs an option.... |
| 01:44.55 | Tekkub | "I have not had any 'real' mail go to my spam box, please just delete all spam from now on" |
| 01:46.15 | haste | but I love mother :< |
| 01:48.21 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r8634 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0: merged branch 8629:8632 to trunk (RosterLib support) |
| 01:49.47 | Theondry | Is there a way to make table.insert not append a numeric index? |
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| 01:50.55 | maia | so, how do we get ckknight back in here? This FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:519: Tablet-2.0: You cannot detach tablet with an unregistered parent frame. error is causing headaches, and I can't find any workaround. |
| 01:51.25 | Mikma | maia: flypaper |
| 01:51.32 | Tekkub | http://www.furaffinity.net/full/192811/ |
| 01:51.33 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 01:51.45 | maia | Mikma: I'm pretty sure that error is already in flywhatever. |
| 01:52.06 | Tekkub | (he laced the bull's tabacco with pot BTW) |
| 01:56.00 | Tekkub | noone read the comic I linked *cry* |
| 01:58.11 | Mikma | i did |
| 01:58.25 | Mikma | i'm not afraid of any link you paste |
| 01:58.41 | CIA-11 | 03theondry * r8635 10SnaFu/ (Changes.txt SnaFu.lua SnaFu.toc readme.txt): |
| 01:58.41 | CIA-11 | SnaFu: |
| 01:58.41 | CIA-11 | 1.1 21Aug06 |
| 01:58.41 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.42 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.42 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.07 | hyperChipmunk | Theondry: that's the ace way |
| 01:59.34 | Theondry | :) |
| 02:00.13 | Mikma | Tekkub: http://wow.telenet.be/images/forumfun/catmasturbate.jpg |
| 02:00.33 | Tekkub | yes.... |
| 02:00.42 | Tekkub | my cat hides in boxes not ceilings |
| 02:09.13 | Mikma | http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Ruyoayo/ui.jpg |
| 02:09.18 | Mikma | hmm "Serenity" |
| 02:14.14 | CIA-11 | 03theondry * r8636 10SnaFu/SnaFu.lua: SnaFu: stealth debug code remove. (I'm so sneaky.) |
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| 02:15.58 | Mikma | hi ag |
| 02:16.02 | andreasg | hi |
| 02:16.08 | Mikma | when will you fix pubcrawl? ;D |
| 02:16.18 | andreasg | Mmm |
| 02:16.18 | maia | andreasg: heya. |
| 02:16.21 | andreasg | sometime |
| 02:17.01 | maia | andreasg: seen the posts in the agUF thread regarding optimizing performance? guess you'll need to add a license now ;) |
| 02:17.05 | *** part/#wowace Theondry (i=user@ppp-70-242-173-167.dsl.elpstx.swbell.net) |
| 02:17.58 | Mikma | licence? :P |
| 02:18.12 | andreasg | GPL |
| 02:18.14 | andreasg | :p |
| 02:18.21 | andreasg | or BSD |
| 02:18.23 | andreasg | I don't care |
| 02:18.44 | Mikma | but why |
| 02:18.53 | maia | GPL has a big drawback. |
| 02:19.11 | maia | anything that is published under GPL may not be published under anything else. |
| 02:19.41 | maia | so if e.g. Ace requires their stuff to be BSD/CreativeCommons/..., then you can't add in GPL stuff. |
| 02:19.49 | maia | which is why I dislike GPL. |
| 02:19.52 | andreasg | hm yeah |
| 02:20.21 | Mikma | so why would he need a licence for wowaddon? :) |
| 02:20.31 | maia | GPL is very restrictive, tries to dominate the open source world. ;) |
| 02:20.41 | maia | Mikma: people want to be correct. |
| 02:20.57 | Mikma | maia: but.. licencing a game addon |
| 02:21.08 | maia | personally, I think creativecommons is nice. |
| 02:21.41 | MentalPower | Norganna's AddOns (Auctioneer, Gatherer, Enchantrix and all of its sister AddOns) are licensed under the GPL |
| 02:21.42 | maia | Mikma: depending on where you live, whatever you code is already intellectual property, no matter if its a game addon or something else. |
| 02:22.28 | maia | ...and without officially stating that someone else may reuse/modify/... your code, in some countries people simply may not do so. |
| 02:22.28 | andreasg | how is the LGPL? |
| 02:23.08 | Mikma | http://www.fsf.org/ |
| 02:24.00 | maia | andreasg: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html |
| 02:25.27 | andreasg | seems mostly directed at people writing libraries |
| 02:25.44 | Azurewrath | mhm... looks like the US Realms will get 1.12 today - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=9607557&p=1&tmp=1#post9607557 |
| 02:26.06 | andreasg | aw, I'll miss the first day PvP |
| 02:26.19 | andreasg | depends on when they release it in the EU |
| 02:26.32 | Azurewrath | as always.. one day later.. i hope ;) |
| 02:27.49 | maia | andreasg: I suggest to use something like http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/ |
| 02:27.59 | andreasg | ok:) |
| 02:28.12 | andreasg | Won't have time to look at until I get home though |
| 02:28.19 | andreasg | the 31st or something |
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| 02:29.01 | maia | anyone recieved the BC invitation mail yet? |
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| 02:30.03 | Mikma | ~wrf qtf |
| 02:30.09 | Mikma | ~wtf qtf |
| 02:30.17 | Mikma | hmm |
| 02:31.07 | Tekkub | ~wtf qft |
| 02:31.25 | Tekkub | stupid bot |
| 02:31.45 | Mikma | is it something like quote for truth? |
| 02:31.51 | Tekkub | yes |
| 02:32.34 | MentalPower_ | purl, QTF is "Quoted for Truth" |
| 02:32.35 | purl | okay, MentalPower_ |
| 02:32.41 | MentalPower_ | ~wtf QTF |
| 02:32.50 | Mikma | ~qtf |
| 02:32.54 | purl | qtf is probably "Quoted for Truth" |
| 02:33.09 | MentalPower_ | ok, how does one set WTF |
| 02:33.18 | Mikma | dunno |
| 02:33.21 | Tekkub | qft, lern2type |
| 02:33.28 | hyperChipmunk | you dont' set it |
| 02:33.34 | Mikma | Guild: Snakes on a Zeppelin |
| 02:33.55 | Tekkub | purl's author is some pansy ass bitch that filters "language" |
| 02:33.59 | Mikma | purl: forget qtf |
| 02:33.59 | purl | Mikma: i forgot qtf |
| 02:34.01 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r8637 10SimpleCombatLog/ (SimpleCombatLog.lua customization.lua localization.lua): |
| 02:34.01 | CIA-11 | SimpleCombatLog |
| 02:34.01 | CIA-11 | - Added option 'Greater resize'. |
| 02:34.01 | CIA-11 | - Added very basic support for theme sets. |
| 02:34.02 | CIA-11 | - Added themes: 'default', 'damageDone', 'damageTaken'. |
| 02:34.03 | Tekkub | but only on the definition side |
| 02:34.06 | Tekkub | ~fuck you |
| 02:34.07 | purl | I've heard better pick up lines from a goat with Aspergers. |
| 02:34.07 | Tain | Hell dyslexia. |
| 02:35.00 | Mikma | Tekkub: once i was being told that he won't like my ~teabag either :P |
| 02:35.07 | Mikma | so i changed it |
| 02:35.12 | Mikma | ~teabag |
| 02:35.13 | purl | Mikma: May i offer you some green tea? |
| 02:35.29 | Tekkub | ~inflatable dildos |
| 02:35.31 | purl | Oh yea, stretch that hole! |
| 02:35.57 | hyperChipmunk | wtf is a BSD commandline program that purl just relays |
| 02:36.03 | Mikma | purl: no, teabag <foo> is "<reply> <foo>: May I offer you some green tea?" |
| 02:36.04 | purl | okay, Mikma |
| 02:36.08 | maia | Tekkub: you commited that Onyxia.lua, right? |
| 02:36.10 | maia | [2006/08/22 04:33:50-428]: Other\Onyxia.lua:151: `(' expected near `DAMAGE' |
| 02:36.11 | Mikma | ~teabag Tekkub |
| 02:36.20 | haste | The cellar under Karazhan is really large :< |
| 02:36.24 | haste | I should explore more :p |
| 02:36.52 | Tekkub | I committed a hand-applied diff because people can't seem to give "unified diff" files and tort won't take anything else |
| 02:37.10 | Mikma | purl: no, teabag <foo> is "<reply> May I offer you some green tea?" |
| 02:37.12 | purl | okay, Mikma |
| 02:37.17 | Mikma | ~teabag |
| 02:37.18 | purl | Mikma: May i offer you some green tea? |
| 02:37.26 | Mikma | ~teabag tuplad |
| 02:37.39 | Mikma | well, what ever |
| 02:37.43 | Tekkub | and I heard a good Chuck Norris comment... the first one I didn't wish painful death upon it's typer... |
| 02:37.45 | hyperChipmunk | $1 |
| 02:37.52 | Mikma | purl: forget teabag <foo> |
| 02:38.04 | Tekkub | "Chuck Norris doesn't teabag anyone, he potato-sacks them |
| 02:38.09 | Mikma | purl: no, teabag <foo> is "" |
| 02:38.11 | purl | okay, Mikma |
| 02:38.29 | Mikma | purl: no, teabag is "" |
| 02:38.30 | purl | okay, Mikma |
| 02:38.34 | Mikma | ~teabag |
| 02:38.35 | purl | methinks teabag is "" |
| 02:38.44 | Tekkub | purl, go fuck yourself |
| 02:38.58 | Mikma | purl: no, teabag is |
| 02:39.03 | Mikma | purl: no, teabag is |
| 02:39.15 | Mikma | purl: no, teabag is :( |
| 02:39.16 | purl | okay, Mikma |
| 02:39.25 | Tekkub | ugh |
| 02:39.31 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 02:39.49 | Tekkub | purl, no, teabag is <action> squats |
| 02:39.51 | purl | Tekkub: okay |
| 02:40.01 | Mikma | hehe |
| 02:40.07 | Codayus | Trying to find an example of making checkboxes with CreateFrame(). Does anyone know of an addon that does that so I can just steal the code? :-) |
| 02:40.13 | andreasg | anyway it seems like that guy did some good work on making some of the functions perform better |
| 02:40.21 | Mikma | Tekkub: gg, now you'll end up in purls ignorelist |
| 02:40.32 | Tekkub | *shrug* |
| 02:40.35 | hyperChipmunk | we can only hope |
| 02:40.54 | Tekkub | what fun is a programable bot that has a filter? |
| 02:41.04 | Mikma | none |
| 02:41.14 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 02:41.15 | hyperChipmunk | more fun than one programmed by you |
| 02:41.22 | Tekkub | hC |
| 02:41.29 | CIA-11 | 03pprovost * r8638 10FuBar_PoisonFu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_PoisonFu: Rolled all changes from working branch to trunk in prep for beta release of v1.1. |
| 02:41.32 | Mikma | it's like pushing grandmother down the stairs |
| 02:41.38 | Tekkub | LOLOMGGFY |
| 02:43.19 | Mikma | well put |
| 02:43.32 | haste | hehe, rogue bot just attacked me |
| 02:43.54 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r8639 10BigWigs/Other/Onyxia.lua: |
| 02:43.54 | CIA-11 | BigWigs |
| 02:43.55 | CIA-11 | - Typo in the ony thing I commited earlier |
| 02:43.55 | haste | melee hit you: 57 |
| 02:43.56 | haste | x10 |
| 02:44.03 | Mikma | hmm |
| 02:44.10 | Mikma | i hope you mindcontrolled it to sea |
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| 02:45.41 | haste | I don't have mind control :( |
| 02:46.01 | Mikma | well mindcontrol hat? |
| 02:46.11 | Tain | Killed Nef for the first time tonight. |
| 02:46.25 | eternally777 | Grats :-) |
| 02:46.36 | Mikma | eternally777: *BOOM* ;) |
| 02:46.39 | Mikma | ~tryme |
| 02:46.41 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at trollied and fires. BANG! |
| 02:46.46 | gnorlish | ~teabag hyperChipmunk |
| 02:46.48 | Mikma | OMG! |
| 02:46.49 | Mikma | owned! |
| 02:46.55 | eternally777 | rofl |
| 02:47.05 | eternally777 | ~roulette |
| 02:47.06 | purl | ACTION watches eternally777 pull the trigger: Click! |
| 02:47.14 | eternally777 | Looks like I get to see another day. |
| 02:47.28 | Mikma | that was the second time i owned another person |
| 02:50.43 | eternally777 | Well, my mod has been owning me all day. It creates a list of cooldown bars for each healer, as you probably already know, and I need to link that list of frames to a tabular list of healers, so that when you left-click on a particular healer's casting bar, that healer switches places with the healer before him; both his casting bar, and his position in the table. But I can't seem to get it to work... |
| 02:51.37 | eternally777 | Anyone have any experience with accomplishing something to that effect? |
| 02:53.30 | haste | uhm |
| 02:53.45 | haste | is the crypt in deadwind pass only open at special times :p ? |
| 02:53.53 | haste | it was open a couple of secs ago, now it's locked :--( |
| 02:54.26 | haste | or maybe I ran through it 'cause of the CPU usage I had then |
| 02:55.19 | Azurewrath | hehe, that happened to a guildie at the AQ opening event.. he ran through the door because of the 23 gazillion Players standing around there.. |
| 02:55.33 | Azurewrath | to bad the mobs behind that door didn't like him |
| 02:56.54 | haste | I still don't know how I get to the chinese farmer place tho' :p |
| 03:00.33 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r8640 10SimpleCombatLog/ (SimpleCombatLog.lua customization.lua): |
| 03:00.33 | CIA-11 | SimpleCombatLog |
| 03:00.33 | CIA-11 | - Tweaked theme sets a bit. |
| 03:00.34 | CIA-11 | - Fixed: attempt to index field `events' (a nil value) |
| 03:05.16 | Kebinusan | Is oRA 2 ready for 1.12? |
| 03:05.51 | Kebinusan | Making a list of things I need to update for tomorrow |
| 03:11.04 | Tekkub | so 1.12 is tomorrow? |
| 03:11.32 | PProvost | Ugh. Not that again. :) |
| 03:11.38 | maia | Tekkub: yes. |
| 03:11.47 | Tekkub | don't ugh me bitch |
| 03:12.02 | PProvost | hehe |
| 03:12.03 | Tekkub | I'll erf you so hard your ass will hurt for a week |
| 03:21.46 | Tekkub | I hope ckk gets done having a "real life" and fixes fubar plugins going everywhere.... someday... |
| 03:23.12 | PProvost | Has anyone figured out a pattern for what's wrong yet? Seemed to be different ones for different people. |
| 03:24.40 | Tekkub | Cockpit kicks so much ass, I need to finish it |
| 03:26.57 | Thrae | "Cock Pit" -- Tekkub's favorite bar/pub |
| 03:31.25 | Kebinusan | Tekkub, /signed |
| 03:32.02 | Kebinusan | So I really hate the Heigan clear |
| 03:34.27 | eternally777 | Keb, /signed |
| 03:34.36 | eternally777 | And I hope they don't remove the save spot in his entrance :-( |
| 03:34.54 | Kebinusan | safe spot? |
| 03:35.20 | eternally777 | Yeah |
| 03:35.39 | eternally777 | There's a ledge in his doorway, where you can stand without aggroing anything |
| 03:36.16 | eternally777 | We assumed it was "working as intended" |
| 03:37.15 | eternally777 | But your lack of a response is leading me to feel otherwise. |
| 03:37.20 | eternally777 | :-P |
| 03:38.10 | Gngsk | there's a spot like that for broodlord and fankriss, why wouldn't there be one for heigan |
| 03:38.18 | Gngsk | I've never actually done the clear, but aren't they supposed to be similar? |
| 03:38.47 | eternally777 | Very |
| 03:50.59 | PProvost | Can someone point me to some code in the SVN to show how to display the GameTooltip? I've been playing around with the API and can't seem to get it to work. |
| 03:57.15 | MentalPower | simple |
| 03:59.57 | MentalPower | lemme pastey an example |
| 04:00.35 | PProvost | Please |
| 04:00.42 | PProvost | I've got to be missing something... |
| 04:06.05 | MentalPower | PProvost: http://ace.pastey.net/356 |
| 04:07.15 | MentalPower | first two lines are required, third line is so you can actually see the tooltip |
| 04:07.19 | PProvost | Excellent. I was calling Show() and apparently I don't have to do that. |
| 04:07.23 | PProvost | Many thanks! |
| 04:07.33 | MentalPower | that shoudn't matter |
| 04:08.02 | MentalPower | but just so you know, most (all?) GameTooltip:SetFoo() functions call :Show() internally |
| 04:08.38 | PProvost | Okay. I wasn't calling SetPoint, so that was probably the issue. At least I've got something going now. Gracias. |
| 04:09.06 | MentalPower | no hay problema :) |
| 04:11.56 | PProvost | So I assume I have to hide it when I'm done with it, right? |
| 04:12.34 | MentalPower | you don't "have to" |
| 04:12.54 | MentalPower | are you going to be doing tooltip scanning with said tooltip? |
| 04:13.29 | PProvost | No. Actually I'm going to be showing it from a Dewdrop "tooltipFunc" method. |
| 04:13.42 | PProvost | I'm already using Gratuity for scanning. |
| 04:13.58 | PProvost | In this case, I want to show an item's normal tooltip when the user is over my menu item./ |
| 04:16.43 | MentalPower | then yes, you should hide the tooltip when you;re done with it |
| 04:16.58 | MentalPower | usually from an "OnLeave" script |
| 04:21.20 | PProvost | Grr... should've read the Dewdrop API docs better. "tooltipFunc" does all this for me. :) |
| 04:21.30 | MentalPower | lol |
| 04:21.39 | MentalPower | well, its always good to know how something works |
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| 04:27.25 | CIA-11 | 03thiana * r8641 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/Core.lua: |
| 04:27.26 | CIA-11 | FuBar_tcgTradeskills: |
| 04:27.26 | CIA-11 | * Switched to using AceDebug |
| 04:27.26 | CIA-11 | * Alpha sort the realm/chars on tooltip |
| 04:37.51 | mjc | moo |
| 04:38.19 | Tem | zomg |
| 04:39.25 | kergoth | huzzah, i'm on my new box |
| 04:40.37 | Industrial | kergoth, \o/ |
| 04:42.13 | kergoth | ~emulate stewie |
| 04:42.14 | purl | No Sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you. |
| 04:42.36 | Industrial | kergoth, im almost done with watching futurama |
| 04:42.55 | Industrial | season 5 ep 7 |
| 04:42.57 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 04:44.02 | kergoth | ~emulate chris |
| 04:44.08 | purl | If I had a hole in my throat, I'd put pennies in it |
| 04:44.12 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:44.25 | Tekkub | http://youtube.com/watch?v=yyXpHoihMXs |
| 04:49.02 | Industrial | anyone know where wobin is? |
| 04:49.06 | mjc | I ate him |
| 04:49.10 | mjc | tasted like chicken |
| 04:49.14 | mjc | ~seen wobin |
| 04:49.20 | purl | wobin is currently on #gnu-kbsd, last said: 'And there appear to be no limitations to the location of the coder =P'. |
| 04:49.20 | Industrial | AHHHHHH!H!H |
| 04:49.20 | Industrial | NOES |
| 04:49.20 | Industrial | :p |
| 04:50.31 | FryGuy- | hrm |
| 04:50.39 | FryGuy- | anyone know how to remove a frame? |
| 04:50.55 | Industrial | thats the wrong wobin |
| 04:51.02 | Industrial | FryGuy-, you cant |
| 04:51.04 | CIA-11 | 03pprovost * r8642 10FuBar_PoisonFu/Core.lua: FuBar_PoisonFu: Now uses the GameTooltip when user rolls over the item buff in the menu. |
| 04:51.07 | FryGuy- | o rry? |
| 04:51.10 | Industrial | rry |
| 04:51.15 | FryGuy- | just have to hide it? |
| 04:51.19 | Industrial | yeah |
| 04:51.22 | FryGuy- | that sucks :( |
| 04:51.24 | Industrial | but |
| 04:51.31 | Industrial | you can use something like FrameFactory |
| 04:51.35 | Industrial | to manage them' |
| 04:51.38 | FryGuy- | oh hm |
| 04:51.39 | mjc | FuBar_NinjutFu > poisonfu :P |
| 04:51.59 | Industrial | so when you dont need it any more famefactory will save it and when you need one again you ask one from framefactory |
| 04:52.07 | Industrial | or something |
| 04:52.08 | Industrial | :p |
| 04:52.22 | FryGuy- | so like if I wanted to make something like the group loot frame replacement, I should just create the 3-4 I need and only use those? |
| 04:53.17 | FryGuy- | http://www.burntpopcorn.net/images/wow/WoWScrnShot_082106_154144.jpg |
| 04:55.56 | Industrial | FryGuy-, yeah |
| 04:56.38 | Industrial | i'd just make a function that sets up one frame and at the end returns it (you give the function one arg, thename of the frame) |
| 04:56.44 | Industrial | and then set up as many as you need |
| 04:56.49 | Industrial | when hide them |
| 04:57.02 | Industrial | WHEn you need them update them with another function and show |
| 04:57.11 | Industrial | something like that :D |
| 04:59.43 | CIA-11 | 03id * r8643 10idUnitWatch/Core.lua: |
| 04:59.43 | CIA-11 | idUnitWatch: Moved some stuff around to make it a bit less resource wasteful |
| 04:59.43 | CIA-11 | (lol :P) and the pet now shows 'Pet' as its class. Oh also hopefully the reaid |
| 04:59.43 | CIA-11 | leader display is now fixed and also works for the player. Cheers. |
| 04:59.45 | Industrial | aaaaand im off to bed |
| 04:59.49 | Industrial | nn |
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| 05:05.17 | Kebinusan | thats pretty cool fry |
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| 05:13.31 | CIA-11 | 03grayhoof * r8645 10SCT/sct_options/ (7 files): sct_options: Added healing filter for small heals. Cleaned up look of option menu a little. |
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| 05:26.21 | Kyahx | hmmm, speaking of missing people. |
| 05:26.24 | Kyahx | ~seen ckknight |
| 05:26.29 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-102.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 4d 1h 37m 12s ago, saying: 'alright, cya all later, everyone'. |
| 05:26.50 | Kyahx | =) |
| 05:26.52 | Kyahx | =(** |
| 05:26.55 | Kyahx | :( *** |
| 05:26.59 | Kyahx | bleh |
| 05:28.41 | Nickenyfiken | 4 days eh |
| 05:28.55 | Kyahx | vacation? |
| 05:31.00 | Nickenyfiken | maybe |
| 05:31.22 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight is author of FuBar right? |
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| 05:35.29 | Kyahx | and a good portion of Ace2 |
| 05:37.12 | CIA-11 | 03grayhoof * r8646 10SCT/sct/ (sct.toc sct_event_config.lua): sct: Final changes for 1.12 release |
| 05:37.23 | CIA-11 | 03grayhoof * r8647 10SCT/sct_options/ (options.lua sct_options.toc): sct_options: Final changes for 1.12 release |
| 05:37.42 | CIA-11 | 03grayhoof * r8648 10SCT/sctd/sctd.toc: sctd: Final changes for 1.12 release |
| 05:37.58 | CIA-11 | 03grayhoof * r8649 10SCT/sctd_options/sctd_options.toc: sctd_options: Final changes for 1.12 release |
| 05:39.48 | Nickenyfiken | 1.12 today/tomorrow? |
| 05:40.48 | Cairenn | yes |
| 05:42.13 | Nickenyfiken | any expected troubles with uimods or is it a nice patch to the ui? |
| 05:42.55 | Kyahx | well, 100% of your raid is going to need to update their raid mods :P |
| 05:43.02 | Kyahx | I'd call that an expected trouble |
| 05:43.31 | Kyahx | hehe |
| 05:43.37 | Kyahx | BUT! It's sleeping time |
| 05:43.47 | Kyahx|afk | I dread tomarrow =( |
| 05:44.16 | Nickenyfiken | night |
| 05:51.22 | Kebinusan | heh |
| 05:51.29 | Kebinusan | Have some faith |
| 05:51.51 | Kebinusan | is oRA or oRA2 ready for patch day? |
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| 06:11.51 | Nickenyfiken | i have no idea |
| 06:12.09 | Rophy | in 1.12 ther are some new patterns in GlobalStrings.lua: AURASTOLENOTHEROTHER = "%s steals %s's %s."; |
| 06:12.11 | Nickenyfiken | i wonder what blizzards sct is like |
| 06:12.16 | Rophy | anyone know what these are? |
| 06:12.22 | Industrial | morning! |
| 06:12.51 | Kebinusan | blizzards sct sucks |
| 06:13.27 | Nickenyfiken | oh loginserver is going nuts |
| 06:13.37 | Nickenyfiken | Kebinusan: ok, why? |
| 06:14.52 | Nickenyfiken | well, anyone know how to get the channel tabs in the chatwindow visible all the time? |
| 06:15.38 | Kebinusan | Nickenyfiken, just sucks, its blizzard they cant do anything right... msbt <3, blizsct /hate |
| 06:16.15 | Nickenyfiken | ok :-) |
| 06:16.49 | Nickenyfiken | well i guess its maybe good enough for those that is not that much into configuring their mods all day long instead of playing :-P |
| 06:18.06 | Kebinusan | eh, There have only been a couple patches that really screwed with mods |
| 06:18.16 | Kebinusan | most of them will work just fine after the patch |
| 06:18.44 | tigg | Tekcub: sorry about the diff... I thought diff -u would do the right thing |
| 06:29.06 | Nickenyfiken | stupid server is disconnecting me all the time |
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| 06:37.05 | Laric | anyone knows if the chat window bug is fixed in 1.12? |
| 06:37.21 | Laric | i mean the bug where the last tab is active |
| 06:38.01 | Laric | [Ammo] you here? |
| 06:40.36 | Nickenyfiken | hmm i get DC when i throw a buff on myself |
| 06:40.41 | Nickenyfiken | can that be uimod related? |
| 06:40.57 | Nickenyfiken | Laric: i hope so |
| 06:41.18 | Industrial | start with nothing |
| 06:41.33 | Industrial | log out and enable a mod, log in - check - etc |
| 06:41.46 | Laric | or use mcp to add addons :P |
| 06:41.51 | Laric | mcp ftw :) |
| 06:42.02 | Nickenyfiken | yeah |
| 06:42.06 | Industrial | whatever :P |
| 06:42.18 | Nickenyfiken | well well |
| 06:42.44 | Nickenyfiken | hmm the server is sloooow |
| 06:42.53 | Laric | Some day soon I am gonna go around and write a 'profile' for mcp so I can have raid setup and grind setup on addons for instance |
| 06:42.59 | Nickenyfiken | i didnt get DC now but latency is >1000ms |
| 06:43.26 | Nickenyfiken | i think someone is working on something like that |
| 06:43.30 | Nickenyfiken | Overlord on the SVN |
| 06:44.01 | Laric | I'll have a look there then |
| 06:44.05 | CSE|Deadly`afk | loadit does that |
| 06:44.22 | Laric | then I scratch those plans.. |
| 06:45.23 | CSE|Deadly`afk | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2198 |
| 06:45.36 | Laric | btw I was in mc last night and got a new effect that I have never had before.. the molten destroyers had some new anim when they stomped.. looked kinda like some blast wave.. and it sure blasted our fps |
| 06:45.47 | Laric | anyone else got that effect? |
| 06:46.52 | CSE|Deadly`afk | never heard or seen of that |
| 06:47.49 | Laric | I had never seen it until I was there yesterday |
| 06:47.59 | Nickenyfiken | hmm well if all my raid mods are ace/ace2 i could use ace profiles instead and just standby right? |
| 06:48.13 | Laric | and all my gfx options are set to minimum on a 7900gt and i got like 20fps when that was going on |
| 06:49.46 | Laric | i wish they could document all the cvar |
| 06:51.31 | Nickenyfiken | did all in your raid have low fps? |
| 06:54.22 | Laric | yep all got hit like hell of that blastwave |
| 06:54.32 | Laric | never seen it before though |
| 06:54.55 | FtH|eagle | fpsblast? must be something new from blizzard to annoy people :P |
| 06:55.04 | Laric | yep |
| 06:55.51 | Laric | I guess they turned on some fancy new option that is for 1.12 at bit early when it cant be turned off.. or they got more money from nvidia so they can sell more 7950 gtx's |
| 06:57.13 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r8650 10/branches/MCP/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:57.14 | CIA-11 | MCP |
| 06:57.14 | CIA-11 | - initial import to branches. |
| 06:57.14 | CIA-11 | - added 'addon sets'. |
| 06:57.26 | Laric | hehe :P |
| 06:57.44 | Laric | hi rophy.. |
| 06:58.16 | Rophy | hi Laric |
| 06:58.21 | Laric | guess he liked my idea :P |
| 06:59.13 | Rophy | ll you were talking about MCP |
| 06:59.14 | Rophy | lol* |
| 06:59.35 | Rophy | I read http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1899.0.html so I uploaded my work. |
| 06:59.47 | Laric | at first when i had that fps blast I thought I had installed somefancy addon stealing all my fps.. so I was down to standard interface and it still stole all my fps.. |
| 07:00.06 | Laric | we were talking about 'addon sets' in mcp 2-3 mins ago |
| 07:00.15 | Rophy | yeah I saw that now :p |
| 07:00.38 | Rophy | I added addon sets for my own use, I think someone might want it too. |
| 07:00.46 | Laric | yes we sure do |
| 07:00.57 | Laric | I use mcp like every day :P |
| 07:01.07 | Laric | and sets would make it so much faster |
| 07:01.47 | Rophy | My work isn't jut direct 'sets' though, it's... i dunno how to say. |
| 07:02.01 | Laric | downloading and checking now |
| 07:02.09 | Rophy | Say I have 3 sets myself, 'common', 'raid', 'debug' |
| 07:02.25 | Rophy | 'raid' are oRA, damagemeter and KTM |
| 07:02.45 | Rophy | When I raid I actually "Disable All" -> "Load common" -> "Load raid" |
| 07:02.56 | Rophy | So the result is 'common' + 'raid' addons. |
| 07:02.58 | Rophy | I hope you get what I mean. |
| 07:03.20 | Nickenyfiken | niec |
| 07:03.23 | Nickenyfiken | nice |
| 07:03.25 | Rophy | The sets are 'what you load', but the ones you already enabled won't be changed. |
| 07:03.52 | Laric | gonna have a look :P |
| 07:04.09 | Nickenyfiken | well could you add the option to unload a set? so if you unload raid you unload oRA, damagemeters and KTM |
| 07:04.36 | Rophy | sure, but I simply 'disable all' then load the sets I want :p |
| 07:06.18 | Nickenyfiken | yeah thats easy enough i guess :-) |
| 07:06.31 | Nickenyfiken | but where do i get it? |
| 07:06.37 | Nickenyfiken | sorry i missed that |
| 07:06.39 | Rophy | http://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/MCP/Rophy/ |
| 07:06.51 | Nickenyfiken | thanks |
| 07:07.18 | Rophy | I put it in the branches because I don't really want to be the 'official' maintainer :p |
| 07:08.01 | Nickenyfiken | yea |
| 07:08.40 | Nickenyfiken | ace it and make it load on demand ;-) |
| 07:08.59 | Laric | it has no overhead so why load on demand? |
| 07:09.05 | Rophy | you need an addon to load a load on demad addon :p |
| 07:09.12 | Rophy | I use MCP to load load on demand addon |
| 07:09.26 | Rophy | so if I make MCP load on demand then I need another addon to load MCP so that I can load the load on demand addons... |
| 07:10.11 | Nickenyfiken | well the gui could be load on demand? |
| 07:10.17 | Laric | mcp is close to the perfect addon.. yo notice nothing when it is there... but you sure as hell notice when it is not there |
| 07:10.49 | Rophy | then you'll need to separate the slash command and GUI into two addons. |
| 07:10.58 | Rophy | a slash command stub addon to turn on MCP gui. |
| 07:11.08 | Nickenyfiken | yup |
| 07:11.09 | Rophy | I try not to complicate things. |
| 07:11.23 | Laric | I never use the command to start mcp... press esc press addons :P |
| 07:11.30 | Nickenyfiken | i guess its lowmem anyway |
| 07:11.44 | Rophy | me too so I'm not doing that, you may go modify it :p |
| 07:13.13 | Laric | btw is elkbuffbar giving you a performance hit? (wanna check before I start using it) |
| 07:13.39 | Rophy | Warmup says my modified MCP costs about 100KB. |
| 07:13.49 | Rophy | not very low mem I think. |
| 07:14.09 | Rophy | but it doesn't do anything when you dont use it so I can stand with that 100KB. |
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| 07:16.47 | Nickenyfiken | yeah it wont cause any GC's so its fine |
| 07:16.59 | Nickenyfiken | ive tried it a bit now |
| 07:17.02 | Nickenyfiken | good work! |
| 07:18.36 | Nickenyfiken | 25.7MiB without raid addons 0-2KiB/s when doing nothing |
| 07:19.30 | evl | where do I see this Men in Black stat? |
| 07:21.00 | Rophy | btw is there any memory usage display addon, other than FuBar_Performance? |
| 07:21.20 | Nickenyfiken | you can use tekSupport |
| 07:21.30 | Rophy | it's FuBar plugin too isnt it? |
| 07:21.32 | Nickenyfiken | it can show you more how much mem each mod use |
| 07:21.39 | Nickenyfiken | yup |
| 07:21.55 | Nickenyfiken | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/tekSupport |
| 07:21.58 | Rophy | Sometimes I dun want to load FuBar, especialy when I am writing addon and constantly reloading my ui. |
| 07:24.08 | Nickenyfiken | something that needs improvement is login time, it takes forever to log in with all mods enabled |
| 07:30.11 | Nickenyfiken | time for some Linear Algebra :-/ |
| 07:33.13 | evl | Hmms, strange request |
| 07:33.22 | evl | Anyone got a combat log from AV and/ord AB handy? :P |
| 07:33.32 | evl | Gonna work on a BG mod at work but need data ;) |
| 07:40.23 | Laric | rophy i think teksupport is fubar2 so it can run standalone on the minimap? |
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| 07:41.20 | Rophy | you mean fubar2 plugins can run without fubar2? |
| 07:42.04 | Laric | yes |
| 07:42.37 | Rophy | i'll give it a try later, still using FuBar 1.2 :p |
| 07:42.39 | Laric | then they attach themselves to the minimap |
| 07:42.47 | Gngsk | 1.2 fubar plugins can run standalone too |
| 07:43.01 | Laric | given that the author remembered to include all the libs |
| 07:43.12 | Rophy | didnt know about that. |
| 07:45.46 | Arrowmaster | Rophy: can i make a SCL request? make it show buff/debuff stack numbers like the default combat log does, something like ++ Sunder Armor (1) ++ Sunder Armor (2) |
| 07:46.00 | Rophy | it doesnt do so? |
| 07:46.03 | Rophy | it should |
| 07:46.11 | Arrowmaster | mine wasnt today |
| 07:46.27 | Rophy | hmm I'll check that later, it's supposed to. |
| 07:47.57 | Arrowmaster | other than that i love the new version, i tried it back when the only way to get debuff applications to show was to enable everything from 'target' but didnt stick with it, tried it again today and its almost perfect |
| 07:48.24 | Laric | what does scl do? |
| 07:48.44 | Rophy | like hitsmode / nurfed combatlog |
| 07:54.18 | Laric | ah oki |
| 07:54.25 | Laric | will have a look at it then :P |
| 07:54.40 | Laric | any of you using detox? |
| 07:56.52 | Gngsk | I use detox |
| 07:58.00 | Laric | does it only work in group or does it cure entire raids? |
| 07:58.10 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r8651 10SimpleCombatLog/SimpleCombatLog.lua: |
| 07:58.10 | CIA-11 | SimpleCombatLog |
| 07:58.10 | CIA-11 | - Fixed: buff / debuff stack level were not shown. |
| 07:58.28 | Laric | I tried it yesterday and it seems to only update on your own group? |
| 07:58.45 | Rophy | Arrowmaster, try it again, had a small typo at that part :p |
| 07:58.46 | oxman | ora2 is up to date for 1.12 new synch channel ? |
| 07:58.47 | CSE|Deadly`afk | does scl allow for different chat frames and watching different people? |
| 07:59.13 | Rophy | yes |
| 07:59.43 | Rophy | settings for each chatframes are independent. |
| 07:59.49 | CSE|Deadly`afk | nice |
| 08:00.44 | Rophy | Advertising time: take a look at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full3045.jpg :p |
| 08:01.27 | Laric | nice |
| 08:02.10 | Laric | btw I saw a nice addon the other day.. (actually only a screenshot of a chatlog) That showed [Raid][Name][group#] Text on raid chat |
| 08:02.20 | Laric | anyone know what addon does this? |
| 08:02.42 | Laric | sure helps the masterlooter (ie me in our raids) |
| 08:02.46 | CSE|Deadly`afk | nerfed does that i think. at least some aspect of it. probably nerfed general |
| 08:02.58 | oxman | hum ora/ora2 will not be ready for tomorrow =( |
| 08:03.05 | oxman | it's a problem |
| 08:03.45 | Kebinusan | I dunno oxman, ask ammo |
| 08:04.06 | oxman | [Ammo] Hi ;D |
| 08:04.06 | oxman | I see nothing on the svn =( |
| 08:04.10 | Industrial | Rophy, tbh only showing the number is enough if you colour them by type (white yellow and dark yellow for dot) |
| 08:04.12 | Laric | doesnt mean he isnt ready for it :P |
| 08:04.20 | oxman | i've look the code |
| 08:04.27 | Rophy | tbh? |
| 08:04.29 | oxman | there is no code for 1.12 |
| 08:04.31 | Industrial | to be honest |
| 08:04.35 | Industrial | oxman, and? |
| 08:04.36 | oxman | bigwigs is already ok for 1.12 |
| 08:04.40 | Industrial | oxman, he has no duty to do it |
| 08:04.41 | Laric | oxman he can have a branch on his hd :P |
| 08:04.44 | oxman | and it will be incompatible with ctraid =D |
| 08:04.50 | oxman | Laric i hope ;p |
| 08:04.52 | Rophy | you mean the screeshot? that's just showing what are possible for the customizations. |
| 08:04.57 | oxman | sorry Industrial ? |
| 08:04.59 | Industrial | Rophy, oh k :P |
| 08:04.59 | Rophy | you can show numbers only if you want to. |
| 08:05.10 | Industrial | oxman, he doesnt HAVE to code it |
| 08:05.17 | oxman | and ? |
| 08:05.20 | Industrial | oxman, just when he feels like it :P |
| 08:05.40 | oxman | and ? |
| 08:06.00 | Industrial | so dont expect addons to be done before patches unless the author said so |
| 08:06.08 | oxman | and ? |
| 08:06.18 | Laric | be nice? |
| 08:07.36 | oxman | and ? |
| 08:07.44 | Insa | no more and |
| 08:07.45 | Insa | :P |
| 08:07.48 | oxman | :p |
| 08:07.55 | Rophy | est |
| 08:07.57 | Rophy | test |
| 08:08.14 | oxman | I try a dirty hack on ora =D |
| 08:08.14 | Rophy | how do I set myself to away in IRC? :\ |
| 08:08.21 | oxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:08.27 | oxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:08.29 | oxman | etc... |
| 08:08.33 | Rophy | that depends on the client right? |
| 08:08.33 | oxman | remove away : ./away |
| 08:08.36 | oxman | no |
| 08:08.38 | Rophy | test |
| 08:08.40 | Rophy | am I away now? |
| 08:08.47 | oxman | no |
| 08:08.50 | Rophy | I typed /away :\ |
| 08:08.52 | Insa | yes |
| 08:08.54 | oxman | read me |
| 08:08.58 | Insa | Away: test |
| 08:08.58 | oxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:09.03 | oxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:09.08 | oxman | if you use /away without message it's remove away |
| 08:09.15 | Rophy | I typed "/away this is a pen" |
| 08:09.24 | oxman | now it's ok |
| 08:09.27 | oxman | you're mark as away |
| 08:09.28 | oxman | :) |
| 08:09.31 | Rophy | I am? |
| 08:09.35 | oxman | yep |
| 08:09.38 | Rophy | I can't see it myself, stupid client. |
| 08:09.41 | oxman | ;p |
| 08:09.46 | oxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:09.47 | oxman | :) |
| 08:09.57 | oxman | sorry /whois rophy |
| 08:09.57 | oxman | ;p |
| 08:10.45 | Rophy | ok thanks :p |
| 08:11.14 | oxman | you're welcome |
| 08:11.23 | oxman | hey tomorrow it's a big day |
| 08:11.29 | oxman | patch and conference of nintendo :) |
| 08:13.21 | evl | Repeat! anyone got a combat log from AV and/ord AB handy? :P |
| 08:13.31 | oxman | no |
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| 08:14.50 | Laric | sorry no |
| 08:15.36 | [Ammo] | hmm 1.12? oh dear |
| 08:15.58 | [Ammo] | I guess I'll fix the oRA1 core to work with 1.12 quickly :) |
| 08:16.16 | Kebinusan | heheh yea 1.12 today |
| 08:16.21 | oxman | I try a quick fix :p |
| 08:16.25 | oxman | But I can't test =D |
| 08:16.26 | kergoth | finally |
| 08:16.29 | kergoth | anxious to switch my rogue's build |
| 08:17.35 | Industrial | can anyone show me a hunter build? for leveling up |
| 08:17.51 | kergoth | woot, made my new box stutter for the first time |
| 08:17.56 | kergoth | took some doing though, i'm impressed with it |
| 08:17.56 | Industrial | lol |
| 08:18.28 | kergoth | 3 simultanious compiles, wiht one of those having 3 threads, with wow running = ow |
| 08:18.31 | kergoth | :) |
| 08:18.51 | Industrial | lol :p |
| 08:23.57 | oxman | My hack is finish =D |
| 08:24.01 | oxman | But i can't test lol |
| 08:26.13 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r8652 10PerfectRaidTargets/Core.lua: PerfectRaidTargets: support for oRA2 added |
| 08:29.56 | Kebinusan | its ok ammo you have like 8 hours to make it work |
| 08:31.25 | oxman | i think my patch for ora support 1.12 is ok |
| 08:31.36 | oxman | or with some little modifications will be ok |
| 08:31.45 | oxman | it's an easy patch, but i can't test :) |
| 08:35.27 | FryGuy- | didn't some stuff change with ctra newversion? |
| 08:36.13 | oxman | some stuff ? |
| 08:36.15 | oxman | like ? |
| 08:36.36 | FryGuy- | commands |
| 08:36.40 | oxman | the API provide now the function SendAddonMessage |
| 08:36.44 | FryGuy- | i mean |
| 08:36.48 | oxman | so no more sync channel and /rabc etc :) |
| 08:37.01 | FryGuy- | like for version check it's a different command |
| 08:37.06 | FryGuy- | over the channel |
| 08:37.47 | oxman | why it will be different ? |
| 08:38.20 | oxman | anyway you will see the user without the right version of ct_raidassit, because they will not reply a version :D |
| 08:39.06 | FryGuy- | well i was just using that as an example |
| 08:39.23 | oxman | all the slash command are the same |
| 08:39.32 | oxman | except some little don't work anymore, /rabc, /rajoin |
| 08:39.38 | FryGuy- | but like reagents may have changed from REAGENTCHECK to RECHK over the channel |
| 08:39.58 | oxman | oh really ? the keyword change ??? |
| 08:40.07 | oxman | or it's a question ? |
| 08:42.24 | Laric | is bigwigs ready for 1.12? I think i saw something about it being ready |
| 08:42.41 | oxman | yep it's |
| 08:42.43 | FryGuy- | [2006-08-14 19:58:27] <@Cide> and then again, you can change the style of the unitframes if you don't like 'em |
| 08:42.43 | FryGuy- | [2006-08-14 19:58:40] <@Cide> and fuck oRA |
| 08:42.43 | FryGuy- | [2006-08-14 19:59:18] <@Cide> (for the sole reason that the author contacted me to tell me that he 'intends to compete with us for our users') |
| 08:42.43 | FryGuy- | [2006-08-14 19:59:27] <@Cide> so I'm changing the message format around a bit |
| 08:43.12 | oxman | lol |
| 08:43.13 | FryGuy- | that's what I'm referring to |
| 08:43.14 | oxman | cide is stupid |
| 08:43.20 | oxman | thanks to point that FryGuy- :) |
| 08:43.25 | oxman | i will look for that |
| 08:43.48 | oxman | it's really stupid, because it take few seconds/minutes to update ora according to ct_raidassist |
| 08:44.06 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r8653 10oRA2/oRA2/ (4 files in 3 dirs): oRA2: better join/leave raid handling |
| 08:44.07 | FryGuy- | who is taking over for haste/otravi though? |
| 08:44.27 | [Ammo] | I can't imagine haste or me contacting cide and telling him we're going to compete |
| 08:44.43 | oxman | better means compatible with 1.12 ? |
| 08:44.56 | [Ammo] | so I wonder where he got that notion |
| 08:45.01 | FryGuy- | [2006-08-14 20:01:02] <@Cide> talked to someone a while ago because he was supposedly taking over ora |
| 08:45.01 | FryGuy- | [2006-08-14 20:01:06] <@Cide> nah, he said that specifically |
| 08:45.01 | FryGuy- | [2006-08-14 20:01:10] <@Cide> that he was taking over ora |
| 08:45.01 | FryGuy- | [2006-08-14 20:01:15] <@Cide> the new guy seems a bit better |
| 08:45.16 | oxman | then [Ammo] these two addons is for two kind of users |
| 08:45.26 | oxman | so i don't see where is the competition :) |
| 08:45.44 | FryGuy- | ctra2 looks pretty neat though |
| 08:45.50 | oxman | about ora2 : better means compatible with 1.12 ? |
| 08:46.52 | Nickenyfiken | so oRA2 will now update PRT from information from others using oRA2 and CTRA? |
| 08:47.18 | oxman | prt is now compatible with ora2 :) |
| 08:47.26 | oxman | but i dunno if ora2 is compatible with 1.12 :D |
| 08:47.30 | FryGuy- | only problem i have with PRT is tanks with the same name :/ |
| 08:47.34 | FryGuy- | i mean first letter |
| 08:47.53 | [Ammo] | fryguy: that would have been me :) |
| 08:48.04 | [Ammo] | talking about ora2 |
| 08:48.17 | FryGuy- | hm? |
| 08:48.18 | oxman | i use ora maintankframes :) |
| 08:48.49 | [Ammo] | I talked to Cide |
| 08:48.57 | FryGuy- | oh |
| 08:49.02 | [Ammo] | about trying to come to some kind of RaidAssist messaging standard |
| 08:49.16 | [Ammo] | he put his foot down though |
| 08:49.20 | FryGuy- | to be honest I don't think ctra2 will be that memory inefficient.. it'll be load-on-demand though |
| 08:49.21 | [Ammo] | so now I'm just being compatible :) |
| 08:49.29 | oxman | lol |
| 08:49.33 | FryGuy- | or something |
| 08:49.34 | oxman | cide is stupid ;p |
| 08:49.45 | [Ammo] | and I don't care if he changes his messaging format |
| 08:49.49 | FryGuy- | was that in the thing before 1.12? |
| 08:49.50 | [Ammo] | I can easily adapt |
| 08:49.59 | FryGuy- | i mean sendaddonmessage? |
| 08:50.09 | FryGuy- | that thread in UI forums |
| 08:50.27 | CIA-11 | 03hshh * r8654 10RangeRecolor/ (5 files): RangeRecolor: First version. Intro: recolor the actionbar buttons while out of range. Depend Ace2. |
| 08:50.29 | Nickenyfiken | thats 1.12 |
| 08:50.51 | FryGuy- | i meant was the conversation before they announced it |
| 08:51.04 | [Ammo] | yeah the convo was before 1.12 |
| 08:51.11 | [Ammo] | like 2 months ago or so |
| 08:52.07 | [Ammo] | oRA2 is ready for 1.12 in an hour or 2 |
| 08:52.11 | [Ammo] | it is ready already |
| 08:52.14 | FryGuy- | oRA2? |
| 08:52.15 | FryGuy- | or oRA |
| 08:52.16 | [Ammo] | but I need to make sure I can still raid tonight |
| 08:52.17 | [Ammo] | oRA2 |
| 08:52.19 | oxman | very fine |
| 08:52.20 | Industrial | hah this guy is too funny |
| 08:52.25 | [Ammo] | oRA will be ready soon as well :) |
| 08:52.28 | [Ammo] | no worries |
| 08:52.28 | oxman | about ora2 and ora_maintankframes, is it ok ? |
| 08:52.28 | FryGuy- | i thought you went to sleep id |
| 08:52.35 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1939 |
| 08:52.36 | [Ammo] | ora_maintankframes don't work atm |
| 08:52.42 | [Ammo] | I'm working on that |
| 08:52.45 | oxman | damn it :( |
| 08:52.49 | Health | Morning |
| 08:52.51 | [Ammo] | hope to have a simple MTF thing sorted tonight |
| 08:52.52 | Industrial | read the thread if you haven't and my last reply |
| 08:53.13 | oxman | so I need ora and not ora2 :) |
| 08:53.22 | oxman | because i've my custom layout for maintankframes |
| 08:53.49 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 08:54.04 | Kebinusan | what does prt: added support for ora2 mean exactly |
| 08:54.27 | Kebinusan | prt will use mttargets or something? |
| 08:54.33 | [Ammo] | it had support for oRA |
| 08:54.35 | [Ammo] | now it has for oRA2 |
| 08:54.36 | FryGuy- | perfectraid targets: added the support to get the tanks from ora2, like it does for ora |
| 08:54.39 | [Ammo] | shows initials of tanks |
| 08:54.45 | Kebinusan | oh I didnt realize it did that |
| 08:54.46 | Kebinusan | heh |
| 08:54.54 | FryGuy- | what did you think those letters were ^^ |
| 08:55.12 | [Ammo] | you can increase the number of letters too :p |
| 08:55.14 | [Ammo] | I have it set to 2 |
| 08:55.18 | FryGuy- | :O |
| 08:55.19 | [Ammo] | because we have 3 tanks with a P |
| 08:55.29 | Kebinusan | letters? oh heh, I never payed that close attention |
| 08:55.32 | FryGuy- | we have 2 people on MA with the same first 4 letters |
| 08:55.40 | [Ammo] | that's sucky :) |
| 08:55.41 | FryGuy- | Apocwar and Apocflame |
| 08:55.48 | [Ammo] | well you can set it to 8 :p |
| 08:55.52 | [Ammo] | and just show the whole names |
| 08:56.09 | FryGuy- | nah the first letters works |
| 08:56.16 | FryGuy- | war is rarely up there |
| 08:56.35 | Kebinusan | The only thing I hate about patch day is raiding on patch day |
| 08:56.41 | FryGuy- | heh |
| 08:56.58 | FryGuy- | especially with a new non-backwards-compatable version of ctra |
| 08:57.04 | Kebinusan | yeah |
| 08:57.07 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 08:57.08 | FryGuy- | did you see my addon ammo? http://www.burntpopcorn.net/images/wow/WoWScrnShot_082106_154144.jpg |
| 08:57.10 | [Ammo] | it'll all be ok |
| 08:57.11 | FryGuy- | :p |
| 08:57.16 | Kebinusan | I'll try to convert my guild to ora tomorrow :-P |
| 08:57.45 | [Ammo] | kebinusan I suggest waiting a bit :) |
| 08:58.19 | oxman | Kebinusan i have convert many of mine ;) |
| 08:58.20 | Kebinusan | been bitching to them to get bigwigs for like two weeks.. and every day I hear 'oh hey this bigwigs thing is pretty sweet' |
| 08:58.37 | Kebinusan | so, getting there |
| 08:58.38 | oxman | the duo "perfectraid + ora" is very appreciate :D |
| 08:58.50 | Kebinusan | yea, thats what I do |
| 08:59.27 | [Ammo] | what is that fryguy? |
| 08:59.30 | [Ammo] | rolling addon thing? |
| 08:59.37 | oxman | i guess :) |
| 08:59.43 | FryGuy- | nah not rolling |
| 08:59.55 | FryGuy- | it's want/take/shard |
| 09:00.08 | oxman | Kebinusan for bigwigs it's more harder here, because isn't fully compatible with fr, but it will be ;) |
| 09:00.25 | FryGuy- | gonna make it so RL sends out a thing to raid and that window pops up like a readycheck |
| 09:00.27 | oxman | and a friend have try bigwigs yesterday with lots of bug i dunno why because it don't use ace2, so it's strange |
| 09:00.45 | oxman | oh fine FryGuy- :) |
| 09:01.03 | FryGuy- | then pops up a window on the RL screen that shows the status, and the amount of dkp they have |
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| 09:01.28 | Kebinusan | There was a nasty bug thing with AceOO that was causing me some grief with people running an older version of fubar |
| 09:02.43 | oxman | oh thanks to point me that Kebinusan |
| 09:02.59 | oxman | I will ask him |
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| 09:04.54 | tumetom | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.15 | Kebinusan | its 1.12 |
| 09:05.23 | Health | Hooray! |
| 09:05.32 | Health | So 1.12 tonight? |
| 09:05.32 | Kebinusan | Test realms have been taken down, there is a thread up in the tech support forums on 1.12 troubleshooting |
| 09:05.43 | Kebinusan | and maintenence starts at 2am |
| 09:05.52 | oxman | look the forum |
| 09:05.58 | Nickenyfiken | tonight? |
| 09:06.01 | Kebinusan | supposedly 2am, but my realm is still up |
| 09:06.02 | oxman | blue say "tomorrow 1.12" |
| 09:06.02 | oxman | :) |
| 09:06.09 | Kebinusan | oh they actually said it now |
| 09:06.20 | Nickenyfiken | EU get patches in the morning |
| 09:06.25 | oxman | yep ;) |
| 09:08.46 | Health | All my poor addons! |
| 09:09.26 | oxman | I've never problem with my addons :D |
| 09:09.28 | oxman | or very little |
| 09:14.13 | Health | I didn't last patch.. I don't have that many.. |
| 09:16.04 | Andalia | Is there a handy list of svn-commands anywhere? I created a sandbox-folder and now i need to set externals and delete it afterwards. |
| 09:16.14 | Andalia | I have no clue how to do that atm |
| 09:16.38 | kergoth | google for 'svn externals' perhaps? |
| 09:16.41 | kergoth | first link. |
| 09:16.49 | *** join/#wowace Soltanis (i=as@81.168.16.197) |
| 09:17.27 | kergoth | http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/ |
| 09:17.30 | yacoob | oxman: can you give us a link? |
| 09:17.40 | yacoob | (for the confirmation of 1.12 :) |
| 09:19.28 | oxman | No too hard |
| 09:19.31 | oxman | i'm in a linux console |
| 09:19.36 | oxman | but believe in me :) |
| 09:19.39 | oxman | or check the us forum :p |
| 09:20.00 | yacoob | I'm prancing through it :) |
| 09:20.10 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r8655 10oRA2/oRA2/ (Core-1.12.lua Core.lua oRA2.toc): oRA2: Core for 1.12 should now load for 1.12 |
| 09:20.15 | yacoob | (another fine Blizz product, instead of taking something already done... :) |
| 09:20.38 | oxman | :p |
| 09:20.44 | oxman | i've see the blue post :) |
| 09:20.52 | Industrial | oxman, seen |
| 09:20.52 | oxman | [Ammo] fine now ora ;) |
| 09:20.56 | oxman | thanks Industrial |
| 09:20.59 | Industrial | np |
| 09:21.33 | Industrial | Do we have any means to get buff/debuff data? I want to know if my enemy has a defubb |
| 09:21.43 | Industrial | debuff, even |
| 09:22.00 | [Ammo] | oxman: don't push me |
| 09:22.21 | oxman | take your time :) |
| 09:22.29 | oxman | you've still 18 hours :) |
| 09:22.43 | Industrial | he has howmany time he wants to spend on it |
| 09:22.47 | Industrial | ouch |
| 09:22.48 | oxman | ;p |
| 09:22.51 | oxman | no only 18 :D |
| 09:22.52 | Industrial | howmany time |
| 09:22.53 | Industrial | jeez |
| 09:22.55 | Industrial | thats bad |
| 09:22.56 | Industrial | :P |
| 09:23.09 | FtH|eagle | is there a screenshot or a download already for ctra2? want to take a look at it |
| 09:23.11 | Industrial | oxman, no you want it done in 18 hours |
| 09:23.14 | oxman | ;p |
| 09:23.18 | Industrial | wether youll get it or not is not ammos problem |
| 09:23.33 | oxman | FtH|eagle if you find one, don't forget me ;) |
| 09:23.34 | Nickenyfiken | anyone having DC's on EU realms? |
| 09:23.43 | Health | If you missed it, your raid icon fix yesterday worked ammo! |
| 09:23.47 | oxman | Industrial i think my local patch version is ok, so... ;p |
| 09:24.21 | Industrial | Nickenyfiken, nope |
| 09:24.50 | Nickenyfiken | ok, only on Outland or my ISP then |
| 09:25.19 | Soltanis | whats the topic for today? |
| 09:26.20 | FtH|eagle | FryGuy-, do you have any insider infos on ctra2? :) |
| 09:27.16 | Nickenyfiken | i have, ctra2 will use 2x mem and (kib/s)^2 |
| 09:27.59 | oxman | really ? |
| 09:28.02 | FtH|eagle | you mind sharing? :) |
| 09:28.02 | oxman | i can't believe that. |
| 09:28.35 | Nickenyfiken | it will also disable all ace mods in raids |
| 09:28.38 | FtH|eagle | don't want to use it, only check the code |
| 09:28.59 | tumetom | is the Author of BigTrouble in Here? |
| 09:29.06 | oxman | I hope it will also cast all spells for us |
| 09:29.22 | oxman | I want to watch movie and wash when i'm in a raid |
| 09:29.49 | oxman | FtH|eagle specially if it use praid and sraidframe method ? ;D |
| 09:29.50 | FtH|eagle | it should emulate my voice in ventrilo, then I'm fine |
| 09:29.59 | oxman | "50 DKP MINUS" |
| 09:30.02 | FtH|eagle | haha |
| 09:30.03 | oxman | not too hard to emulate ;) |
| 09:30.19 | FtH|eagle | nah, want to check everything since I'm going to write xraid2 soon |
| 09:30.32 | oxman | oh you're the author of xraid ? :) |
| 09:30.37 | FtH|eagle | yeah |
| 09:30.40 | oxman | ok |
| 09:32.34 | oxman | YEAHHHHHHH ! |
| 09:32.37 | FtH|eagle | not very proud of it though, too many damn bugs and memory flaws in there :P |
| 09:32.38 | oxman | My imap mail works ! |
| 09:32.46 | oxman | Very boring to use pop3 since few days =( |
| 09:32.55 | oxman | lol FtH|eagle ;) |
| 09:33.06 | oxman | I use praid, very light and useful for an healer :) |
| 09:33.26 | FtH|eagle | tried it, but it's not a layout I want to use |
| 09:33.39 | Nickenyfiken | i only use gmail these days |
| 09:33.56 | oxman | ok FtH|eagle, could you tell me why ? |
| 09:34.43 | tumetom | how can I get an existing AceLOcale INstance ? |
| 09:34.59 | FtH|eagle | nothing to do with praid itself, but I like xraid not only because I've written it, but the health bars are much better for healing |
| 09:35.08 | FtH|eagle | and I'm used to it since many months now |
| 09:35.20 | oxman | I dunno tumetom |
| 09:35.42 | oxman | Have you test the last version of Praid ? (since two or three weeks), the healths bar are a little bigger |
| 09:35.50 | oxman | and health depletion is very nice for an healer |
| 09:36.09 | tumetom | does AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.0"):new("XYZ") overwrite a existing "XYZ" instance? |
| 09:36.21 | FtH|eagle | no |
| 09:36.37 | FtH|eagle | and I have oxman |
| 09:36.42 | oxman | ok :) |
| 09:36.50 | oxman | before praid i was use marsraid |
| 09:36.59 | oxman | you can have the layout you want very easily |
| 09:37.05 | FtH|eagle | What I didn't like was the font of the text, maybe it's because I'm using clearfont, but they didn't look correct |
| 09:37.15 | FtH|eagle | tried that too |
| 09:37.19 | oxman | oh maybe :) |
| 09:37.25 | oxman | i want try clearfont, i forget always ;p |
| 09:37.56 | Nickenyfiken | clearfont makes averything look ugly IMO |
| 09:38.02 | oxman | lol |
| 09:38.03 | tumetom | urgs.. acewardrobe does just one thing.. throwing errors |
| 09:38.14 | FtH|eagle | imho, there should be an addon which can create every unitframe possible out of a layout file, I know mg2 can do this a little, but lacks of features |
| 09:38.34 | FtH|eagle | you installed the latest Nickenyfiken? it's really ugly, try the previous one |
| 09:38.40 | Nickenyfiken | agUF can |
| 09:38.55 | Nickenyfiken | i like the font but its too big |
| 09:38.58 | FtH|eagle | I meant aguf, sry :) |
| 09:39.13 | oxman | I want to do a little hack useful for healer with aguf |
| 09:39.34 | oxman | create a unitframe of my passive target at the top of my castbar |
| 09:39.44 | FtH|eagle | passive? |
| 09:39.48 | oxman | because some time you're not sur if you've selected the good target |
| 09:39.53 | oxman | "cast the spell, then select target" |
| 09:40.00 | FtH|eagle | ah ok |
| 09:40.07 | oxman | then, it's hard to see the casttime bar and health of the target to cancel the spell |
| 09:40.15 | oxman | the both in the same place will be very readable |
| 09:45.36 | Laric | what is a passive target? |
| 09:46.11 | FryGuy- | the unit you are casting the spell on |
| 09:46.19 | FryGuy- | i'm assuming at least |
| 09:46.39 | oxman | "casting the spell on" |
| 09:46.39 | Nickenyfiken | so you mean you have actually targeted a mob but is casting a heal on a partymember and that partymember is showing over the castingbar so you know who you are healing? |
| 09:46.40 | FryGuy- | and no inside information about ctra |
| 09:46.51 | oxman | like that Nickenyfiken :) |
| 09:46.59 | Nickenyfiken | that would be very helpful |
| 09:47.07 | FryGuy- | except that the frames are going to be customizable |
| 09:47.16 | oxman | anyway i want see the health bar of the target i'm heal above the cast bar |
| 09:47.17 | FryGuy- | anyways, sleep |
| 09:47.32 | oxman | because it's very hard to move eyes to the unit frame and cast bar to try to cancel if you must cancel |
| 09:48.15 | Nickenyfiken | yeah |
| 09:48.53 | oxman | but i'm lazy and i want a very short way to do that ;p |
| 09:48.59 | oxman | so I plan to do something like that : |
| 09:49.14 | oxman | hook TargetUnit etc to find the unit targeted |
| 09:49.18 | Nickenyfiken | try creating a branch of oCB and add a bar that is ontop of the CB with just the unitname and health |
| 09:49.27 | oxman | then try with aguf function to create the frame of the unit above my castbar |
| 09:49.31 | oxman | then remove after the casting |
| 09:49.40 | oxman | i use ecastingbar :D |
| 09:49.48 | oxman | i can do that Nickenyfiken it's better yep :) |
| 09:50.12 | oxman | but to get the life of the unit you must have his unitid |
| 09:50.25 | oxman | so must do a loop like UnitIsUnit("raid"..i, "mouseover") |
| 09:50.35 | oxman | then : mytarget = "raid"..i |
| 09:50.56 | oxman | so the passive target will only work for party/raid member |
| 09:51.12 | oxman | but the cast will work for all people except you change your target ;) |
| 09:54.54 | Nickenyfiken | well i guess you are in a party or raid most of the time when you need it |
| 09:55.06 | Nickenyfiken | except battlegrounds? |
| 09:55.24 | oxman | with 1.12 also in bg |
| 09:55.25 | Nickenyfiken | but you will join a raid automaticly in BG in 1.12 right? |
| 09:55.31 | oxman | don't forget you must be in raid with 1.12 |
| 09:55.31 | oxman | ;) |
| 09:55.40 | oxman | yep |
| 09:55.47 | oxman | so it's nice :) |
| 09:56.02 | oxman | then in bg 99% of time you don't need to cancel the casting ;) |
| 09:56.42 | Nickenyfiken | your right |
| 09:57.56 | Soltanis | hmm who added the */18 count to Gothik module :-( |
| 09:58.38 | oxman | dunno |
| 10:00.48 | [Ammo] | no idea soltanis |
| 10:00.51 | [Ammo] | but what's the rpoblem? |
| 10:01.00 | CIA-11 | 03moonsorrow * r8656 10XRS/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:01.00 | CIA-11 | XRS: |
| 10:01.00 | CIA-11 | - bar tooltips aren't clickable any more |
| 10:01.00 | CIA-11 | - blank bars now have a colored line (can be customized) |
| 10:01.52 | Soltanis | well ill have to get aproper count tonight. but from what I saw it was 20/18 and rising when i last looked |
| 10:01.57 | CIA-11 | 03phyber 07phyber * r8657 10FuBar_MoneyFu/MoneyFu.lua: |
| 10:01.58 | CIA-11 | MoneyFu: |
| 10:01.58 | CIA-11 | - Changed Metrognome calls to 2.0 style. |
| 10:01.58 | CIA-11 | - Other random changes. |
| 10:03.39 | Soltanis | think it's counting them wrong maybe |
| 10:03.50 | Soltanis | ill get a better bug report tonight |
| 10:05.27 | [Ammo] | I have no idea why that count was even added |
| 10:05.46 | [Ammo] | someone added a bloody frenzy count to Huhuran too |
| 10:05.50 | [Ammo] | I stripped that out |
| 10:05.59 | Health | much drama in the big wigs team |
| 10:06.04 | [Ammo] | naah |
| 10:06.06 | [Ammo] | not much drama |
| 10:06.15 | [Ammo] | I'm just fascist about the modules |
| 10:06.28 | [Ammo] | same as Tekk is about the core |
| 10:06.28 | Kebinusan | heh, except when koKR localization breaks something, then ammo gets angry |
| 10:06.44 | Kebinusan | heh |
| 10:06.46 | phyber | kergoth: the other day you put a small shell script in wowi-lounge for AL, something using a while loop and 'read' i think. could you paste it again? |
| 10:06.51 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@p54A527FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:07.18 | kergoth | phyber: while read a b c d; do echo $a is the first word and $b is the second; done < filename |
| 10:07.41 | kergoth | parses each line on whitespace, first word into a, second into b, third into c, etc |
| 10:07.53 | phyber | that's the one. I couldn't remember where to put the read ;) |
| 10:07.54 | kergoth | see the man page for your shell (i.e. bash), as 'read' is generally a shell builtin |
| 10:08.03 | CIA-11 | 03moonsorrow * r8658 10XRS/XRS_BarClass.lua: |
| 10:08.03 | CIA-11 | XRS: |
| 10:08.03 | CIA-11 | - dewdrop menu for color changing of the bars changed |
| 10:08.04 | phyber | yeah, I had read 'help read' |
| 10:08.05 | Elkano | any news on the 'a patch'? |
| 10:08.11 | oxman | wow very nice ocb (design) |
| 10:08.16 | oxman | i will use it for my "addon" |
| 10:08.27 | Soltanis | ammo : Frenzy count? |
| 10:08.36 | Soltanis | a count of how many times he goes frenzy? |
| 10:08.59 | Kebinusan | No word yet that I could find Elkano, PTR is closed now though |
| 10:09.17 | Kebinusan | but they didnt use the background downloader to push anything... so who knows for certain |
| 10:09.25 | Kebinusan | All signs point to yes |
| 10:09.34 | Kebinusan | or maybe rather |
| 10:09.46 | Soltanis | both ptr's are closed? |
| 10:10.04 | CSE|Deadly`afk | when logging in on us servers, it says there will be a patch and maintenance will be extended to allow for it. dunno if "to apply a patch" is "the patch" |
| 10:10.18 | oxman | it is |
| 10:10.24 | oxman | according to the blue post on the us forum |
| 10:10.45 | Kebinusan | I couldnt find that post oxman |
| 10:10.51 | [Ammo] | Soltanis yeah |
| 10:10.52 | [Ammo] | useless |
| 10:10.53 | oxman | grmbl :p |
| 10:11.05 | Soltanis | well the gothik wave count isn't useless |
| 10:11.12 | Soltanis | it's just slightly off |
| 10:11.45 | oxman | tinyurl.com/obo6z |
| 10:11.48 | oxman | is it ok now ? |
| 10:14.41 | Elkano | Kebinusan, iirc 1.12 patch won't be that large wrt file size so the bg downloader isn't really needed. |
| 10:15.38 | Kebinusan | http://filelist.filefront.com/8;/Latest_Patches.html is on filefront |
| 10:15.46 | Kebinusan | err 1.12 is on filefront |
| 10:15.49 | Kebinusan | so yeah, its like 16mb |
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| 10:17.21 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8659 10SidebarCombatLog/ (23 files in 9 dirs): |
| 10:17.22 | CIA-11 | SidebarCombatLog: |
| 10:17.22 | CIA-11 | Initial Import. |
| 10:17.22 | CIA-11 | Changes since yesterday: |
| 10:17.22 | CIA-11 | - Uses it's own frame instead of a chatframe now. You can still use the old file by renaming SidebarCombatLog_chatversion.lua |
| 10:17.23 | CIA-11 | - As a result, several options were added |
| 10:17.34 | Andalia | need to set externals ^^ |
| 10:22.33 | FtH|eagle | do you have a screenshot of that combat log? |
| 10:22.37 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8660 10SidebarCombatLog/ (9 files in 9 dirs): |
| 10:22.37 | CIA-11 | SidebarCombatLog: |
| 10:22.38 | CIA-11 | -setting externals + keywords |
| 10:24.31 | Andalia | FtH|eagle: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1945.0.html the third ost |
| 10:24.36 | Andalia | *post |
| 10:25.07 | FtH|eagle | k thx |
| 10:42.13 | Kebinusan | heheh, wow I just found my old guilds rag video from June of 2005 |
| 10:42.37 | Kebinusan | everyone in crappy gear, using rope nets on sons |
| 10:42.41 | Kebinusan | good times |
| 10:43.01 | Othar | rope nets! ingeniousity! |
| 10:43.25 | Kebinusan | and really sticky glue! |
| 10:43.41 | Kebinusan | I think I leveled 10 hordies to level 5 to do that quest |
| 10:44.29 | Othar | BoP now, alas |
| 10:45.21 | Kebinusan | inded very sad |
| 10:45.31 | Kebinusan | those things were alot of fun in warsong too |
| 10:45.58 | Kebinusan | I do have to admit though, ragnaros is alot easier if you have the dps to kill him before sons of flame |
| 10:47.06 | oxman | i've try ocb at home |
| 10:47.08 | oxman | i love it :D |
| 10:47.26 | oxman | I will use the same bar (with copy paste the code :p) for my health bar :) |
| 10:49.20 | phyber | Kebinusan: yeah, but sons arn't so hard. |
| 10:49.25 | phyber | our most recent rag kill was great. |
| 10:49.31 | Kebinusan | yeah I know |
| 10:49.31 | phyber | at 1%, we got second sons :p |
| 10:49.35 | oxman | nice sidebarcombatlog !! |
| 10:49.47 | phyber | managed to keep them feared and stuff to take rag down after the 30 seconds. |
| 10:49.59 | Thiana | Are the patch notes up yet? |
| 10:50.06 | Kebinusan | not yet it seems |
| 10:50.14 | CIA-11 | 03werehamster * r8661 10IFrameFactory/Lib/IFrameFactory.lua: |
| 10:50.14 | CIA-11 | IFrameFactory: |
| 10:50.15 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:51.33 | oxman | hum and very well ! |
| 10:51.38 | oxman | sidecbarcombatlog use parserlib ! |
| 10:51.49 | oxman | Andalia kiss :D |
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| 10:52.08 | Andalia | thanks oxman ;) |
| 10:52.53 | wereHamster | did sidecbarcombatlog already get it's own frame or does it still use ChatFrameX ? |
| 10:53.59 | Andalia | it uses its own. But that doesn't change the look |
| 10:55.17 | Andalia | I'll try to do battlechat soon. Let's see if i'm good enough. sbcl was my first attempt for a wow-addon |
| 10:55.37 | oxman | I it's awesome i like it :D |
| 10:57.13 | Andalia | i need a list of aoe-spells that can not hit the target now. Like BladeFlurry. That way i can show them as spell on other even when the target has the same name as the victim |
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| 10:58.09 | oxman | what's the ->x<- ? |
| 10:58.18 | Andalia | you killed somebody |
| 10:58.25 | oxman | ok |
| 10:58.30 | Andalia | didn't find a better sign for that ^^ |
| 10:58.33 | oxman | you must replace by ->dead<- |
| 10:58.36 | oxman | or something like that ;p |
| 10:58.38 | Andalia | you can change it in the options |
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| 10:59.11 | oxman | oh yep :) |
| 10:59.13 | Andalia | ->dead<- isn't that bead |
| 10:59.13 | oxman | thanks nice |
| 10:59.17 | Andalia | *bad |
| 10:59.46 | Andalia | but i think i'd need to call it ->kill<- or something like that since dead is own death |
| 11:00.01 | oxman | ok |
| 11:00.04 | oxman | kill seems good :) |
| 11:00.25 | Andalia | I think i'll add this as standard and still use my own sign myself |
| 11:00.43 | oxman | hym yep >kill< is good, i've test :) |
| 11:00.50 | oxman | i think it's better |
| 11:00.59 | oxman | what's the pink number ? |
| 11:02.02 | Andalia | should have something to do with dots :P |
| 11:02.13 | oxman | yep but it's appear after my target die :D |
| 11:02.29 | Rophy | you can still log in wow now? |
| 11:02.33 | Andalia | europe |
| 11:02.35 | Rophy | I thought it's down. |
| 11:02.36 | Rophy | ah |
| 11:03.04 | Andalia | that sometimes happen. You still can do damage to your target after it died because of lag |
| 11:03.23 | Andalia | the -> and <- are also off most of the time |
| 11:04.27 | Andalia | killing a boar in dun morogh results in 284, ->kill<-, 423, ->, <- that sucks |
| 11:05.00 | Andalia | so you hit him after he died and then get in combat according to sbcl ;) |
| 11:05.03 | oxman | you need fix that ;) |
| 11:05.08 | oxman | you can :) |
| 11:05.34 | Andalia | no that would be too hard. A lot of code for nothing |
| 11:05.42 | Andalia | It's blizzards fault |
| 11:06.13 | oxman | really ? i think not |
| 11:06.24 | oxman | don't show the event if the target is die |
| 11:06.42 | oxman | then, in the combat log no problem |
| 11:06.44 | oxman | the order is right |
| 11:06.45 | Andalia | i could say that if you do dmg then you are in combat. This way i might be able to fix it but that might not always be the case |
| 11:07.06 | oxman | i don't understand why it's not in the good order |
| 11:07.07 | Andalia | what if you have no target and do aoe? |
| 11:07.14 | oxman | you use the event UNIT_DEAD or something like that ? |
| 11:08.30 | Andalia | i only get names from the clog and sometimes you have several mobs with the same name around you. Afaik it's impossible to find out which mob has died and which has been hit |
| 11:09.26 | oxman | yep but i don't understand why the order isn't good because in the combatlog is good |
| 11:10.10 | Andalia | no its not good in the clog either |
| 11:11.03 | oxman | clog ? what do you mean by clog ? |
| 11:11.05 | Andalia | i don't watch the death-text. I watch the slain-text which appear before the "laggy" hit |
| 11:11.07 | oxman | in the standard combat log is ok |
| 11:11.09 | Andalia | combatlog |
| 11:11.14 | oxman | i've check, the order is good, but not in your addon |
| 11:11.52 | Andalia | which locale do you play on? |
| 11:12.57 | oxman | fr |
| 11:13.09 | oxman | maybe it's a problem with parserlib |
| 11:13.16 | tumetom | Someone show rewrite EngInventory.. :/ |
| 11:13.30 | Othar | if only ;) |
| 11:13.46 | Andalia | the combatlog shows 2 lines for the death of an enemy. The death-message and the slain-massage. I watch the slain message because it's the only way to find out if you killed somebody. The slain-message however sometimes appears before the last hit because of lag |
| 11:14.02 | tumetom | is plowking still under development? |
| 11:15.03 | Rophy | try SCL and see if the same problem occurs? if so then it's probably ParserLib. |
| 11:15.16 | oxman | I understand Andalia |
| 11:15.32 | oxman | But it is really important to say if you kill or not ? |
| 11:15.53 | Andalia | i can't show every enemy around you that dies in sbcl. |
| 11:16.05 | oxman | or you can do something like that : |
| 11:16.12 | oxman | catch slain message |
| 11:16.16 | Andalia | There shouldn't any messages which are not related to the player |
| 11:16.25 | oxman | wait 0.2sec, when you see the combat log message |
| 11:16.30 | oxman | processe the slain message |
| 11:16.39 | Andalia | hmm |
| 11:16.50 | Rophy | but I think the problem is that not |
| 11:16.55 | Rophy | since you mentioned the defaul combat log was fine? |
| 11:16.58 | Rophy | default* |
| 11:17.19 | Rophy | so it might be ParserLib |
| 11:17.22 | Andalia | is it oxman? |
| 11:17.41 | Rophy | [19:11] oxman: in the standard combat log is ok |
| 11:17.42 | Rophy | [19:11] Andalia: combatlog |
| 11:17.42 | Rophy | [19:11] oxman: i've check, the order is good, but not in your addon |
| 11:18.03 | Andalia | i think that was because he watched the wrong message |
| 11:18.25 | Rophy | but actually damage message appearing after death message is very rare |
| 11:18.35 | Rophy | and looks like he is getting that on every kill? |
| 11:19.16 | Andalia | i'm getting it on every kill of those boars in dun morogh because i have an addon that enables autoattack before ss. |
| 11:19.40 | Andalia | so i do autoattack to kill the mob and after death he gets hit by ss |
| 11:19.40 | Rophy | dunno then :\ |
| 11:19.54 | Rophy | I'd like to know if it's ParserLib's problem or not though. |
| 11:19.58 | Rophy | since I maintain ParserLib :p |
| 11:20.08 | Andalia | I'm pretty shure it's not |
| 11:20.23 | Andalia | i'm getting this in the default combatlog too |
| 11:20.46 | Andalia | but when oxman doesn't answer we'll nerver find it out :P |
| 11:20.48 | Rophy | I doubt it too but I can never be so sure. |
| 11:21.32 | Rophy | may be he meant something else then. |
| 11:21.39 | Thiana | Is there an addon (other than BagBoy) which maintains list(s) of items to auto-sell? |
| 11:22.44 | Rophy | I still use EngInventory for everything about bag manageent :\ |
| 11:22.46 | Andalia | he was talking about the death message and sbcl shows the slain-message (at least i'm pretty shure he did ;)). The seem to akt differently. |
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| 11:23.19 | Rophy | hmm whatever :p |
| 11:24.31 | Rophy | btw for sbcl, adding skill icon to the number looks really cool |
| 11:24.40 | Rophy | ( the picture by Bant) |
| 11:25.01 | Rophy | but I think you can't do that with a scrollingchatframe? |
| 11:25.11 | Andalia | I'll rename sbcl to battlechat before i'll try to do that. I don't know if i |
| 11:25.30 | Andalia | *i'll be using battlechat if it gets finished ;) |
| 11:25.33 | maia | agree. I've never tried it, but does that also work for healing messages (which would then probably not have a static player/target frame, but display all the changed targets. |
| 11:26.02 | Rophy | I dont think that can be done witha ScrollingChaFrame, so you might will have to change to... a frame with like N buttons? |
| 11:26.07 | maia | e.g. [FlashHealIcon] +1130 [Targetname] |
| 11:26.39 | Andalia | I think i'll do a chatframe and add a specific amount of buttons to the side |
| 11:26.49 | Andalia | but that has least priority |
| 11:27.27 | Andalia | targetname is too much space |
| 11:30.20 | evl | Like I replied, can't you just do all of this in MSBT? :D |
| 11:30.41 | Andalia | don't know and i don't want to use msbt |
| 11:34.07 | oxman | re |
| 11:34.43 | CIA-11 | 03andalia 07andalia * r8662 10Teknicolor/: |
| 11:34.44 | CIA-11 | Teknicolor (branch): |
| 11:34.44 | CIA-11 | - Changed the trunk to look like idchatplayernames |
| 11:34.44 | CIA-11 | - Unknown names will now be displayed in gray (i like that ;)) |
| 11:34.48 | oxman | so Andalia process how i have said |
| 11:34.54 | oxman | so no problem :) |
| 11:35.01 | oxman | Rophy is not a problem of parserlib |
| 11:35.49 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8663 10/branches/Teknicolor_tab/: Created folder remotely (Teknicolor_tab) |
| 11:37.01 | Mikk | Oh, we got old -11 back? |
| 11:38.22 | CIA-11 | 03andalia 07andalia * r8664 10Teknicolor_tab/: |
| 11:38.22 | CIA-11 | Teknicolor_tab (branch): |
| 11:38.22 | CIA-11 | - Changed to work with my trunk of Teknicolor. |
| 11:38.22 | CIA-11 | - " " and then tab won't list all names stored in Teknicolor (very hacky fix) |
| 11:38.22 | CIA-11 | - List of possible names looks a bit different |
| 11:39.23 | tumetom | Tekicolor should be localised |
| 11:39.24 | phyber | is there a limit on the number of characters per account on WoW anymore? |
| 11:39.26 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r8665 10Detox/ (Detox.lua Detox.toc): Detox: getting ready for 1.12 |
| 11:39.38 | phyber | I can't seem to find any info on it. |
| 11:39.47 | tumetom | 10/server? |
| 11:39.54 | phyber | except for some really old FAQ still up on blizzard site that says "8 per realm" |
| 11:40.01 | Mikk | Well yeah but there's supposedly also a total limit per account |
| 11:40.08 | Othar | 50 I believe |
| 11:40.15 | Othar | although that's unsubstantiated |
| 11:40.24 | phyber | Othar: that's what I believe it is, but I'm trying to find where it's written :) |
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| 11:40.31 | phyber | I must have read it somewhere at some time ;) |
| 11:40.37 | Othar | good luck hitting that ;) |
| 11:41.25 | phyber | ah, I found an old guild site listing a post from Caydiem with it |
| 11:41.32 | phyber | 10/realm 50/account :) |
| 11:46.44 | evl | asking once again! |
| 11:46.54 | evl | Anyone got a combat log handy with data from AV and/or AB? |
| 11:46.59 | evl | At work and need some dataaaaa .) |
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| 11:54.37 | Laric | evl still looking? |
| 11:54.53 | Laric | :P |
| 11:55.01 | Laric | been looking all day for that data it seems |
| 11:55.07 | Gamefaq | mhh 1.12 in us? |
| 11:55.07 | evl | Yeah :P |
| 11:55.17 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r8666 10Squishy/ (Squishy.toc core.lua developer-todo.txt libs/): Squishy: preparing for 1.12 (AceComm still needs to be integrated) |
| 11:55.35 | Laric | maia are you here? |
| 11:55.53 | maia | ya |
| 11:56.08 | Laric | is detox group only or is it full raid like decursive? |
| 11:56.23 | maia | Laric: its for soloing, parties, battlegrounds and raids. |
| 11:56.48 | Laric | hmm.. that is weird as it only cured for my own group last night.. |
| 11:56.55 | maia | Laric: I'm using RosterLib, so any group setup will do, the addon doesnt need to worry about it at all. |
| 11:57.28 | maia | Laric: thats strange. please make sure you're using the latest svn (I fixed some bugs yesterday), and also doublecheck your settings. |
| 11:57.52 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r8667 10oRA2/oRA2/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 11:57.52 | CIA-11 | oRA2: started with MainTank frames implementation, not functional yet so there's a little toggle at the top of the file :) |
| 11:57.52 | CIA-11 | * Use at own risk. |
| 11:58.02 | [Ammo] | maia: why use AceComm when you can just do SendAddonMessage() |
| 11:58.22 | Laric | maia ok will delete my wtf file and try a new |
| 11:58.46 | maia | Ammo, because AceComm can serialize stuff, compress it, priorize it and makes sure you don't get disconnected for sending too much data at once. |
| 11:59.01 | [Ammo] | but squishy only sends very short messages |
| 11:59.06 | [Ammo] | so it's overkill |
| 11:59.07 | maia | Laric: no real need to delete the WTF - just open the settings and check them |
| 11:59.26 | maia | Ammo: no, it isnt |
| 11:59.38 | maia | we should all use it |
| 12:00.03 | maia | even if Squishy is only using short messages, what if 20 addons decide to send a small message that moment? |
| 12:00.19 | [Ammo] | I won't let my messages be throttled for bigwigs for instnace |
| 12:00.32 | Laric | ammo if all think like that we end up with very many small sends.. wich means lots of sends in the end |
| 12:00.42 | maia | they arent throttled that much. you can define the priority. |
| 12:01.07 | phyber | I should add AceComm stuff to XPBarNone. everyone on the entire realm reports their XP in a channel and XPBarNone shows how much XP the entire server needs to get to level 60. |
| 12:01.10 | phyber | or.... not. |
| 12:01.13 | maia | and we can assume that at least the majority of ace addons will use the correct priority queue |
| 12:01.15 | phyber | ;) |
| 12:01.33 | maia | phyber: haha |
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| 12:01.46 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:02.31 | [Ammo] | I just hate the way the throttlelib creates a global hook and throttles everything |
| 12:02.53 | Laric | [Ammo] but that isnt in acecomm is it? |
| 12:02.57 | [Ammo] | people will make addons that detect that lib and destroy it |
| 12:02.59 | [Ammo] | it is in acecomm |
| 12:03.14 | Laric | ouch |
| 12:03.15 | maia | Ammo, if you don't throttle, you'll end up disconnected. |
| 12:03.38 | maia | it only throttles at the MAX limit. 10bytes more per second, and you're offline anyway. so why worry? |
| 12:04.37 | Laric | maia I cant see any setting weither it should do group only or full raid.. is there any? |
| 12:04.55 | maia | maybe the priorize settings, you checked only your group? |
| 12:05.04 | Laric | nobody is checked |
| 12:05.07 | maia | Laric: or maybe the rest of the raid was out of range? |
| 12:05.26 | Laric | 5 yards from a darned core hound? |
| 12:05.38 | maia | well, please give it another try and watch the live display. Detox will priority your group (plus your target), but it wont ignore others. |
| 12:05.42 | maia | lol |
| 12:05.47 | Laric | but then again everything was weird in that mc run |
| 12:06.11 | maia | Laric: oh, maybe check the max number of lines in the live display and set it to e.g. 10 |
| 12:06.24 | Laric | ok will do.. |
| 12:06.30 | Laric | give it another shot in aq tonight |
| 12:07.04 | Laric | live display = detached tooltip right? |
| 12:07.15 | maia | yup |
| 12:07.22 | Laric | just so i aint messing up |
| 12:07.40 | Kebinusan | Here are the final 1.12 patch notes: http://www.simplicity-guild.com/Updates/Patch.html |
| 12:07.44 | Laric | stupid question perhaps.. but why dont you build your own frame for the live display? |
| 12:08.31 | phyber | "+30 Spell Damage Enchant: Fixed a bug that prevented it from benefiting healing spells" |
| 12:08.35 | phyber | what? |
| 12:08.49 | phyber | are they idiots? That was the damage enchant, +55 healing was the healing one? |
| 12:08.58 | [Ammo] | +30 is now damage/healing |
| 12:09.03 | phyber | maybe +55 healing will also do +55 damage now? |
| 12:09.54 | Laric | there is no such thing as +damage only |
| 12:10.01 | Laric | it is always damage and healing :P |
| 12:10.22 | phyber | well, not any more there isn't :| |
| 12:10.22 | Laric | there is +frost dmg for instance but no +damage |
| 12:10.30 | [Ammo] | Added UnitPlayerOrPetInParty() and UnitPlayerOrPetInRaid(). |
| 12:10.32 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 12:10.54 | maia | I don't really get what that new method is used for |
| 12:11.03 | [Ammo] | me neither |
| 12:11.10 | Laric | hmm |
| 12:11.10 | [Ammo] | but it sounds interesting |
| 12:11.13 | maia | didnt we already have UnitInRaid() ? |
| 12:11.25 | phyber | Arcane Elixir is +20 spell damage for 30 mins. Does that do +healing as well then? (would be useful on my priest) |
| 12:11.25 | Laric | would be nice with a little function unitinmyparty() :P |
| 12:11.48 | Laric | phyber hmmm havent tried |
| 12:13.03 | Laric | maia does rosterlib fire the event atleast once on startup? |
| 12:13.19 | maia | which event? |
| 12:13.24 | phyber | heh, you can dual weild(sp?) with thunderfury now. that will look neat. |
| 12:13.40 | Laric | rosetlib updated i think it is called |
| 12:13.53 | Laric | phyber nah it is unique |
| 12:13.59 | Laric | one hand unique |
| 12:14.04 | [Ammo] | but you can wield it in the offhand now |
| 12:14.08 | [Ammo] | making it a lot better for rogues |
| 12:14.28 | phyber | Laric: I didn't mean dual thunderfury, I meant with any other sword. :) |
| 12:14.32 | Laric | :P |
| 12:14.37 | Laric | you could earlier aswell |
| 12:14.41 | Kebinusan | offhanding it kinda sucks though |
| 12:14.45 | phyber | oh. |
| 12:14.51 | Kebinusan | you dont get procs from instant attacks |
| 12:14.54 | phyber | so they just let you change hands now. right :) |
| 12:15.18 | [Ammo] | it sucks as a mainhand with lots better available |
| 12:15.26 | [Ammo] | so you now have the option to wield it in the offhand |
| 12:15.39 | [Ammo] | still apply the debuff but wield a better mainhand |
| 12:15.49 | Codayus | Yes, it was mainhand, not it's one hand. |
| 12:16.07 | maia | Laric: it will fire RosterLib_RosterChanged on login, even if you're soloing. |
| 12:16.21 | maia | obviously, the roster will only contain a single person. whyß |
| 12:16.33 | maia | s/whyß/why?/ |
| 12:18.16 | Laric | since I update my own group on that event :P |
| 12:18.25 | Laric | gonna start using it in my addon |
| 12:18.38 | maia | oh |
| 12:18.48 | Laric | "Automatic Quest Tracking has been added to the game and is turned on by default. Any time you advance a quest by advancing one of the requirements, the quest information will appear on your screen for 5 minutes before fading. You can turn this option off from the options screen" 5 mins that is forever... |
| 12:19.14 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8668 10SidebarCombatLog/ (3 files): |
| 12:19.14 | CIA-11 | SidebarCombatLog: |
| 12:19.14 | CIA-11 | - Deleted old chatframe-version |
| 12:19.14 | CIA-11 | - Deleted locals-file and moved the tables as local tables into the main file |
| 12:19.14 | CIA-11 | - default killchar is now: -»kill«- |
| 12:19.28 | maia | Ammo, I have a BW coding questions. |
| 12:19.35 | maia | gah, I can't type today. :) |
| 12:19.35 | [Ammo] | shoot |
| 12:19.50 | maia | I've noticed you're using TriggerEvent() everywhere |
| 12:19.53 | [Ammo] | yup |
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| 12:20.07 | maia | so I'm wondering if its better to do that instead of simply call the next method at the end of a function |
| 12:20.21 | [Ammo] | we're doing that because of the modular design of BigWigs |
| 12:20.24 | Andalia | [Ammo]: Is ora2 already usable or is it still too deep in beta? |
| 12:20.26 | maia | aka function My |
| 12:20.28 | CIA-11 | 03grayhoof * r8669 10SCT/sct/sct.lua: sct: Added heal filter to light mode |
| 12:20.33 | maia | sdfzisdffjsdfhoiusydhij°!!! :) |
| 12:20.53 | [Ammo] | right now there are 3 modules registered to BigWigs_Message |
| 12:20.56 | [Ammo] | 1 handles sounds |
| 12:21.01 | [Ammo] | 1 handles displaying local messages |
| 12:21.05 | [Ammo] | 1 handles optional raidwarning |
| 12:21.14 | [Ammo] | you can just delete or disable any of those modules |
| 12:21.17 | maia | aka function BW:Hello() print("hello") self:TriggerEvent("World") end function BW:World() ... end |
| 12:21.18 | [Ammo] | and still have functionality |
| 12:21.25 | Laric | hmm wonder if I should stop dl'ing from trunk now since I guess all american devs is gonna put up 1.12 versions of their addons... and I dont wanta broken ui tonight... |
| 12:21.48 | maia | well, Versions.lua is using TriggerEvent through 3 functions that cant be separated |
| 12:22.06 | [Ammo] | Versions.lua is not my creation |
| 12:22.06 | [Ammo] | but is a weird thing |
| 12:22.09 | [Ammo] | I still need to clean that shit up |
| 12:22.14 | [Ammo] | but asked them to commit so I could clean it up |
| 12:22.14 | maia | QueryVersion() triggering BigWigs_VersionQuery() triggering BigWigs_SendSync() |
| 12:22.40 | maia | okay, so not use TriggerEvent when not necessary. thanks, thats what I wanted to know :) |
| 12:23.47 | [Ammo] | yeah maia, that part of Version is stupid |
| 12:23.52 | Laric | maia triggering events can help other addon writers though :P |
| 12:23.54 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8670 10SidebarCombatLog/libs/: |
| 12:23.54 | CIA-11 | SidebarCombatLog: |
| 12:23.54 | CIA-11 | - Forgot to add Compost-external |
| 12:24.02 | [Ammo] | the rest of bigwigs shouldn't be that silly :) |
| 12:24.09 | maia | Laric: not in that specific code block though ;) |
| 12:24.29 | [Ammo] | I fire events all over oRA as well |
| 12:24.44 | [Ammo] | oRA_JoinedRaid, oRA_LeftRaid etc |
| 12:24.50 | Laric | maia: of course it is up to the specific case.. but in general one should think of.. can one one else have use of being informed about this is happening? |
| 12:24.50 | [Ammo] | helps a lot |
| 12:25.13 | maia | yeah |
| 12:25.54 | maia | on the other hand it would speedup ace if events arent sent if no addon is listening - maybe. at least the AceEvent frame is causing more cpu load than anything else on my computer ;) |
| 12:26.49 | Laric | maia I asked earlier.. think you missed it "<Laric> stupid question perhaps.. but why dont you build your own frame for the live display?" (detox) |
| 12:26.50 | [Ammo] | the AceEvent one or the Ace20Event one? |
| 12:27.01 | [Ammo] | I thought they had seperate names :) |
| 12:27.49 | maia | Laric: yeah, I missed that. well, 1) I wanted to learn how Tablet works, and 2) what would it help? |
| 12:27.58 | maia | Ammo, the Ace20Event frame - sorry :) |
| 12:28.10 | maia | most of my addons are already Ace2 |
| 12:28.26 | Gngsk | ahh, yea |
| 12:28.35 | Gngsk | I updated to squishy ace2 yesterday and something bothered me |
| 12:28.50 | Gngsk | you can't click through the frame to target something |
| 12:28.58 | Gngsk | like you could with the 'old' version |
| 12:28.59 | Laric | maia: personal opinion.. yes it would help if I could have a frame that isnt a black square when there is nothing to do.. and where I would know the size of the thing when it gets filled |
| 12:30.21 | [Ammo] | maia: hmm with me it's the AceEvent frame that's causing most :) |
| 12:30.50 | Gngsk | laric, you can change the opacity of the frame's background so that when there's nothing to clean it's basically invisible |
| 12:31.01 | maia | Laric: well, ckknight hasnt been around for 4 days - I already asked for an option to hide empty frames. |
| 12:31.27 | Laric | could it be that aceevent gets 'blamed' for the code that is being done in the event? |
| 12:31.39 | [Ammo] | Laric: yeah it does |
| 12:31.41 | maia | Laric: also I don't want to have to mess with reusing frames. |
| 12:32.30 | Laric | then it is kinda natural that it is a heavy user on a most aced ui |
| 12:32.32 | maia | Laric: once there's a neat library, I might use that instead. or once someone else than me commits stuff to my addons. I was always hoping my addons would turn into community projects, with people committing small chunks. |
| 12:32.53 | Laric | maia oh.. didnt know that |
| 12:33.11 | Laric | thats why I am writing my own heal addon instead of squishy |
| 12:33.34 | maia | Laric: which addon is that, and what does it do? |
| 12:33.47 | Laric | AoFHeal.. very simple thing |
| 12:33.47 | maia | asking because I'm having some privately held code that works with Squishy |
| 12:33.54 | maia | Laric: what does it do? |
| 12:34.14 | Laric | it has 2 healing levels and sort based on deficit from that level |
| 12:34.23 | CIA-11 | 03aileen * r8671 10FuBar_VolumeFu/ (FuBar_VolumeFu.toc README.txt): VolumeFu - Updated .toc |
| 12:34.25 | Laric | it heals top 5 targets in raid |
| 12:34.33 | Laric | very very simple :P |
| 12:34.43 | Laric | ever seen cEasyHealer? |
| 12:35.03 | Laric | it is loosely based on that |
| 12:35.14 | [Ammo] | so it's basically a buttonmasher? |
| 12:35.25 | [Ammo] | spam a button and you'll overheal the whole raid |
| 12:35.27 | maia | Laric: well, I have some code that does the following: get #1 priority from squishy. see if the unit is really in range for a spellcast. if not, skip to the next. once we have found someone, calculate the healing amount (based on aggro status etc). cast that heal. |
| 12:35.43 | CIA-11 | 03laric * r8672 10AoFHeal/AoFHeal.lua: |
| 12:35.43 | CIA-11 | AoFHeal: |
| 12:35.43 | CIA-11 | - Adding space to show is being healed |
| 12:35.58 | Gngsk | :o |
| 12:35.59 | maia | also the code I have e.g. will only cast renew on units that don't have an active renew. etc. |
| 12:36.09 | Laric | that is the thing it is trying to avoid.. overhealing |
| 12:36.11 | [Ammo] | traditional emergency monitors / heal the most deficit cause a shitload of overhealing |
| 12:36.24 | maia | well, most of the code is very, very old and can now be replaced by existing routines |
| 12:36.29 | [Ammo] | if everyone uses your AoFheal the topmost target will be overhealed a lot:) |
| 12:36.38 | Laric | nope |
| 12:36.56 | maia | Ammo: well, thats why Squishy doesnt have ONE top priority unit but it will show a different top priority unit for each healer. |
| 12:37.01 | Laric | in our raids atleast we have healers with responsibility for their group |
| 12:37.05 | [Ammo] | maia: yeah |
| 12:37.16 | Laric | thats why i have a level for own group and one for rest of raid |
| 12:37.17 | maia | also, the code I'm using will reduce the spell rank if it knows that someone else is about to land a heal on that person |
| 12:37.29 | [Ammo] | laric: hmm we have tankgroups and healer groups and dps groups |
| 12:37.37 | [Ammo] | having a healer in the tankgroup is only useful for PoH |
| 12:37.52 | Thiana | What is the new interface number? 11200? |
| 12:37.54 | Laric | ammo it will will be refined soon.. working on it though.. |
| 12:37.57 | [Ammo] | yeah thiana |
| 12:38.31 | Codayus | [Ammo]: What do your tank groups look like? warrior, lock, pally/shaman, and? |
| 12:38.40 | [Ammo] | usually |
| 12:38.41 | Laric | like i have 85% on own group and 60% on rest of raid.. so nothing besides my own group will show up untl they are under 60% health |
| 12:38.50 | [Ammo] | paladin, warlock, tank tank +something else |
| 12:38.57 | [Ammo] | depending on the fight |
| 12:39.03 | maia | Laric: you should really use Squishy for polling priorities. |
| 12:39.06 | [Ammo] | hunter for natureres, rogue for battleshout |
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| 12:39.24 | [Ammo] | or a 3rd MT depending on the need |
| 12:39.29 | *** part/#wowace tyheam_ (n=tyheam@p50821262.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:39.33 | Codayus | We do warrior/lock/pally/priest/druid, always. <shrug> I suppose it doesn't make a huge amount of sense... |
| 12:39.41 | maia | Codayus: us too |
| 12:39.50 | [Ammo] | that's soooo 2005 :) |
| 12:39.57 | maia | guess the main reason for such a group setup is that healers can focus on their own group |
| 12:39.58 | Laric | we do warrior/lock/pally/priest/mm hunter |
| 12:40.03 | Codayus | It's just...habit. |
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| 12:40.15 | [Ammo] | maia: the healers get sorted in the healer channel |
| 12:40.21 | maia | it makes it easier to blame specific healers ;) |
| 12:40.21 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 12:40.25 | [Ammo] | and their job differs per fight |
| 12:40.37 | [Ammo] | we have certain healers more tailored for a certain job |
| 12:40.57 | maia | I bet this is great if you play a lot in that group, but for casual groups its too much overhead. |
| 12:41.12 | maia | I have to worry about priests that are only using Flash Heal. ONLY. |
| 12:41.23 | Codayus | Assigning healers is actually my job in our raids, and I do it without really looking at groups. Well, except that I'm always the MT healer, and we're always in the same group...not that it matters... |
| 12:41.36 | maia | but I don't want to drop them as they are nice and contributing stuff, e.g. bringing mana pots for other healers. |
| 12:41.46 | Codayus | Heh. |
| 12:41.57 | Thiana | >A soul shard will be refunded to the caster any time a summoned pet despawns rather than dies. -- ABOUT TIME! |
| 12:42.00 | maia | the game should still be fun, right? :) |
| 12:42.01 | [Ammo] | we don't bring people like that anymore |
| 12:42.04 | [Ammo] | or educate them |
| 12:42.20 | [Ammo] | but in general we always have 2 people suited to do a certain job |
| 12:42.36 | [Ammo] | we have 2 real pro pallies that can keep on healing, they're like duracell paladins |
| 12:42.49 | [Ammo] | and we have 2 pretty shitty ones, that can keep the dps alive :) |
| 12:42.54 | Codayus | lol |
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| 12:43.06 | [Ammo] | so usually the 2 pro ones are on the MTs |
| 12:43.11 | [Ammo] | and the shitty ones on something else |
| 12:43.22 | [Ammo] | even though the shitty one might be providing an aura for the MT |
| 12:43.25 | Codayus | A little part of me died inside when I noticed one of our pallies with a halberd of smiting, trying to DPS on gehennas...okay, so...yeah, gehennas. But still... |
| 12:43.53 | [Ammo] | they get their job assigned over the healer channel |
| 12:44.03 | [Ammo] | works real well for us |
| 12:45.54 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 12:45.57 | CIA-11 | 03fleetfoot * r8673 10Nudge/ (. Nudge-enUS.lua Nudge.lua Nudge.toc libs/): trunk/Nudge: Inital import |
| 12:46.01 | Codayus | Grrr, want servers to be up. |
| 12:46.41 | maia | dont want them to be up yet - still need to code some stuff ;) |
| 12:47.49 | [Ammo] | I get the patch tomorrow |
| 12:49.01 | [Ammo] | gotta get MT frames working before then in a very basic state :) |
| 12:49.22 | maia | Ammo do these MT frames replace the old oRA-MainTankFrames? |
| 12:49.35 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:49.52 | Azurewrath | uh nice, my svn-updates catcher for mIRC works ;) |
| 12:49.53 | maia | so in future we'll have yours and the ones from icetrain? |
| 12:49.57 | [Ammo] | no |
| 12:50.02 | [Ammo] | I've already talked with icetrain |
| 12:50.04 | CIA-11 | 03fleetfoot * r8674 10Nudge/ (Nudge.toc libs/): trunk/Nudge: Added delicious externals and keywords |
| 12:50.12 | [Ammo] | and once I got the basics in with styling he'll work with it |
| 12:50.18 | [Ammo] | hopefully :) |
| 12:50.25 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8675 10BattleChat/ (. BattleChat.lua BattleChat.toc libs/): |
| 12:50.25 | CIA-11 | BattleChat: |
| 12:50.25 | CIA-11 | Initial Import |
| 12:50.25 | CIA-11 | - atm this is just a rename of sbcl. Not usable now. |
| 12:50.30 | maia | I see. |
| 12:52.11 | [Ammo] | for now I want to build a complete package that works |
| 12:52.40 | [Ammo] | after that it's time to make an oRA and oRA_Modules |
| 12:52.52 | [Ammo] | oRA = small core, oRA_Modules = Load on demand |
| 12:53.03 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8677 10BattleChat/ (BattleChat.toc libs/): |
| 12:53.03 | CIA-11 | BattleChat: |
| 12:53.03 | CIA-11 | - setting externals + keywords |
| 12:53.57 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r8678 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: |
| 12:53.57 | CIA-11 | XPBarNone: |
| 12:53.57 | CIA-11 | - Added option to show rested XP as a percentage. |
| 12:53.57 | CIA-11 | - TODO: Group the damn text options. |
| 12:54.08 | haste | sup with Cide being pissed? |
| 12:54.12 | [Ammo] | no idea |
| 12:54.29 | [Ammo] | he claims you said you'd compete for users with him |
| 12:54.34 | Laric | is there any /tm replacement in ora? |
| 12:54.34 | [Ammo] | I can't imagine you doing that |
| 12:54.41 | [Ammo] | Laric: no |
| 12:54.41 | haste | I haven't said a word to him since he was in this channel |
| 12:54.48 | haste | and then we discussed the shared comm lib =\ |
| 12:54.49 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8679 10SidebarCombatLog/SidebarCombatLog.toc: |
| 12:54.49 | CIA-11 | SidebarCombatLog: |
| 12:54.49 | CIA-11 | - updated toc |
| 12:54.57 | [Ammo] | he's not in this channel :) |
| 12:55.03 | haste | he was back then |
| 12:55.05 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 12:55.08 | haste | he joined since tek told him to |
| 12:55.15 | [Ammo] | weird |
| 12:55.19 | Thiana | Why does CIA occasionally miss releases? (r8676 in this case) |
| 12:55.37 | [Ammo] | thiana: no idea, sometimes that just happens |
| 12:55.37 | Laric | Thiana branches i think? |
| 12:55.41 | [Ammo] | no not branches |
| 12:55.43 | [Ammo] | it happens in trunk as well |
| 12:55.55 | Thiana | Laric: No, r8676 was a commit I just did to trunk |
| 12:56.12 | haste | but would be nice if someone could poke cide about this |
| 12:56.16 | [Ammo] | well if Cide decides to go and change his messages, we'll adapt |
| 12:56.18 | [Ammo] | easy as pie |
| 12:56.29 | maia | anyone seen CTRA2 yet? |
| 12:56.34 | [Ammo] | nope |
| 12:56.40 | haste | yeh, but I don't want a hostile happening here |
| 12:56.45 | [Ammo] | me neither |
| 12:57.18 | maia | I can't find it on their FTP - guess they changed the folder |
| 12:57.29 | [Ammo] | was it on there then? |
| 12:58.53 | maia | not the 2.0 |
| 12:59.05 | maia | but they had their old betas there |
| 12:59.09 | phyber | why is he bothered how many users he has? it is directly linked to his penis size and ability to pleasure a partner? :o |
| 12:59.16 | Nickenyfiken | hack their server :-P |
| 12:59.49 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r8680 10Squishy/ (core.lua developer-todo.txt): Squishy: now using AceComm (don't use this on 1.11 clients!) |
| 13:00.07 | [Ammo] | ugh |
| 13:00.12 | [Ammo] | remind me not to update squishy today :) |
| 13:00.15 | maia | lol |
| 13:00.18 | maia | you're in europe? |
| 13:00.20 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 13:00.22 | Nickenyfiken | haha remind me too |
| 13:00.33 | [Ammo] | you could do a check :) |
| 13:00.44 | maia | well, if AceComm is intelligent enough not to do anything in 1.11 clients, it wont hurt. |
| 13:00.49 | [Ammo] | it isn't |
| 13:00.53 | [Ammo] | AceComm breaks 1.11 |
| 13:00.54 | maia | oh. |
| 13:01.01 | maia | ouch. |
| 13:01.02 | [Ammo] | if you use SendAddonMessage things break |
| 13:01.10 | [Ammo] | if you even check: if SendAddonMessage then |
| 13:01.12 | [Ammo] | it breaks |
| 13:01.19 | maia | I assumed AceComm would check for the client version |
| 13:01.22 | [Ammo] | I doubt it's even tested properly :) |
| 13:02.03 | maia | well, any suggestions on how to make the basic stuff in Squishy continue to work in 1.11? |
| 13:02.16 | Thiana | [Ammo]: Why would if (SendAddonMessage) then break? In 1.11 it should be nil, in 1.12 non-nil |
| 13:02.23 | maia | yeah |
| 13:04.54 | [Ammo] | thiana: well the silly throttlelib breaks |
| 13:05.00 | [Ammo] | which is in AceComm |
| 13:05.10 | Thiana | Ah ok |
| 13:05.16 | [Ammo] | it throws errors |
| 13:05.30 | [Ammo] | maia: I do that by distributing 2 cores for oRA2 |
| 13:05.34 | [Ammo] | with a check at the top |
| 13:05.44 | [Ammo] | if GetBuildInfo() ~= "1.12" then return end |
| 13:05.51 | [Ammo] | that's for the 1.12 core |
| 13:05.57 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r8681 10Squishy/ (Squishy.toc localization.enUS.lua localization.koKR.lua): Squishy: added korean localization (thanks, claretta) |
| 13:06.15 | maia | Ammo: why doesnt AceComm have that in its first line? |
| 13:07.02 | [Ammo] | maia: I have no clue |
| 13:07.16 | maia | well, you could add it. |
| 13:07.26 | [Ammo] | I don't use AceComm nor do I want to use it atm |
| 13:07.33 | maia | and where the heck is ckknight anyway? |
| 13:09.05 | Soltanis | hows necronomicon? |
| 13:09.14 | Thiana | maia, Hiding from Flyspray |
| 13:11.38 | Kebinusan | heheh, hopefully taking a nice vacation someplace sunny and warm |
| 13:12.42 | Laric | my wife is killing me for installing fubar 2 on her machine.. |
| 13:12.57 | Laric | since everything moves around every time she logs in |
| 13:13.13 | Kebinusan | only use one bar <g> |
| 13:13.38 | Laric | she does.. but it insists on making a new bar for here even when the overflow is off |
| 13:17.51 | maia | I'm seeing that too on one of my characters. |
| 13:18.52 | Nickenyfiken | Laric: turn off "overflow bars" or something like that |
| 13:19.07 | Nickenyfiken | bah nvm |
| 13:19.10 | Nickenyfiken | i cant read :-) |
| 13:21.31 | maia | has anyone ever used Squishy in a cross realm battleground? |
| 13:24.36 | CIA-11 | 03lordrhys * r8682 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/TabletLib.lua: |
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| 13:29.09 | CIA-11 | 03icetrain 07Ammo * r8683 10oRA2/oRA2/ (6 files in 2 dirs): oRA2: Durability, Item, Ready, Resist, Version and Zone popup windows are now movable |
| 13:29.17 | [Ammo] | ARGH |
| 13:29.23 | [Ammo] | noooooooooooooooooo |
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| 13:29.35 | Kebinusan | heh |
| 13:29.36 | CIA-11 | 03lordrhys * r8684 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Updated toc to 1.12 |
| 13:29.40 | [Ammo] | I never gave permission! |
| 13:29.42 | [Ammo] | sigh |
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| 13:29.55 | _icetrain | feel free to slap me :) |
| 13:30.01 | [Ammo] | it's ok :) |
| 13:30.04 | _icetrain | hehe |
| 13:30.05 | [Ammo] | just ask next time plix :) |
| 13:30.17 | Health | Anyone know of a combat analyser that keeps track of misses too? |
| 13:30.24 | Kebinusan | nice to have them movable though |
| 13:31.32 | evl | What are the chances of a world-wide patch tomorrow? |
| 13:31.48 | evl | I've seen the US is getting for sure but haven't seen anything concerning europe |
| 13:31.50 | Health | Doesn't they always world-wide patch? |
| 13:32.07 | Azurewrath | europe will get the patch too, the patch files are already up |
| 13:32.38 | Azurewrath | uhm.. Question btw. Is oRA 1.12 compatible? If not, is oRA2 in a usable state already? :) |
| 13:32.41 | Soltanis | no don't US get it tuesday and EU get it wednesday normally? |
| 13:32.51 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 13:32.53 | Azurewrath | jup |
| 13:33.27 | [Ammo] | oRA2 is usable somewhat |
| 13:33.34 | [Ammo] | although I haven't completed an MTF framework |
| 13:33.52 | Azurewrath | mhm, the old ora_mtf won't work? |
| 13:34.16 | Azurewrath | if anyone wants patches -> http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ |
| 13:35.45 | Azurewrath | and.. by usable do you mean.. usable for someone who reads dev notes and uses the SVN, or usable for guildies who just use stuff i upload? ;) |
| 13:36.19 | _icetrain | oRA_MainTankFrames is a module in the old oRA framework so if oRA (v1) is disabled so is the frames, if the shit hits the fan I could probably break it out to a standalone addon until we get the oRA2 version running |
| 13:36.37 | Azurewrath | hehe :) |
| 13:37.23 | evl | Anyone got a patchnotes link? |
| 13:37.36 | phyber | evl: cgecj Azurewrath's link |
| 13:37.42 | phyber | s/cgecj/check/ |
| 13:37.56 | [Ammo] | _icetrain: I'll have some simple MTF stuff working tonight |
| 13:38.00 | evl | Thanks :) |
| 13:38.09 | [Ammo] | gonna kill C'Thun so plenty of time to code :p |
| 13:38.38 | Azurewrath | wipe recovery takes sooo much time. |
| 13:39.18 | Kebinusan | Its not so bad now |
| 13:39.23 | Kebinusan | the old run back was a bitch though |
| 13:40.04 | Azurewrath | can imagine that.. did that to Huhuran many times.. but we just downed the Twins this Sunday |
| 13:41.28 | Kebinusan | The fun ones were after you killed him you used to be stuck in combat and had to walk back on foot to c'thuns room for loot if you died during the fight |
| 13:42.04 | Azurewrath | yup, read about that |
| 13:42.18 | Azurewrath | but hey, i would walk everywhere for my Ring of the Fallen God ;) |
| 13:43.08 | Kebinusan | still havent gotten that |
| 13:43.58 | Kebinusan | I do have the cape and gloves though :-) |
| 13:45.07 | Azurewrath | hehe.. im still running around with Mageblade, 6/8 T2 and Stuff.. no Mage loot for us :/ |
| 13:45.58 | Kebinusan | <-- warlock |
| 13:46.17 | Kebinusan | I wish they'd fix the 4pc plagueheart bonus though |
| 13:46.28 | Kebinusan | Im kinda hoping it got fixed in 1.12 though, they never commented on it |
| 13:47.10 | Azurewrath | dunno.. well, i will be stuck with Full T2 until 6/9 Frostfire i believe.. 10% dps proc.. |
| 13:47.24 | evl | Neutral guards are now able to see through the rogue Vanish ability. |
| 13:47.27 | evl | PLZ #Care. |
| 13:47.39 | evl | But hunters can naturally feign death still without getting beat up |
| 13:47.58 | CIA-11 | 03fleetfoot * r8685 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble.lua: |
| 13:47.58 | CIA-11 | trunk/BigTrouble: |
| 13:47.58 | CIA-11 | * Removed some zombie code |
| 13:47.58 | CIA-11 | * Tweaked the OnUpdate handler to be less instead of more, rejoice. |
| 13:48.25 | Health | Is there a maintained version of recap somewhere? |
| 13:48.39 | Health | As it seems to be the only combat analyser with miss tracking |
| 13:48.47 | Kebinusan | There is one on curse that rophy updated to use parserlib |
| 13:48.52 | Kebinusan | it works pretty well |
| 13:49.02 | Health | I'll check it |
| 13:49.08 | Health | ty! |
| 13:49.24 | Soltanis | Kebinusan : looking forward to 1.12? |
| 13:49.29 | Kebinusan | yeah |
| 13:50.05 | Soltanis | im not, not going to change anything, were still gonna be useless |
| 13:50.05 | Health | Eat my face melt other servers! |
| 13:50.26 | Kebinusan | warlocks? nah the lifetap change is a real nice dps boost actually |
| 13:50.33 | Kebinusan | since you spend less time lifetaping |
| 13:50.35 | fleetfoot | Health: Check out KombatStats on curse |
| 13:50.43 | Health | Thanks |
| 13:51.14 | Soltanis | jsut means you spend more time draining life :-) |
| 13:51.39 | Kebinusan | get healers who actually cast heal over time spells |
| 13:52.21 | Health | Well.. less time life tapping.. but not less threat reduction :p |
| 13:52.37 | phyber | less time life tapping, more time with the priests beating you over the head with their staffs asking you to stop draining their mana ;) |
| 13:52.42 | Cairenn | patch notes, for those that can't otherwise get to them: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=27761#post27761 |
| 13:52.55 | [Ammo] | fleetfoot: what is bigtrouble? |
| 13:53.08 | fleetfoot | A AimedShot/AutoShot bar |
| 13:53.19 | Soltanis | they never heal me i look too much like a small version of gandalf |
| 13:53.25 | Kebinusan | Actually alot of fights in AQ and Naxx dont put such an emphasis on threat reduction so its really not a completely bad thing... but hey, druid HOTs > Priest HOTs |
| 13:53.37 | Kebinusan | plus we have a healer who is actually spec'd for light well for the locks <3 |
| 13:54.08 | Soltanis | isn't light well channeled though? |
| 13:54.14 | Azurewrath | Healers who use hots? Weird.. ours wait until i have like 200hp left and then overheal me for 10k ;p |
| 13:54.46 | Kebinusan | lol, yeah there are still times I get down to 500 health, start to bandage, then get 7 heals |
| 13:54.51 | Soltanis | http://www.lost-faith.co.uk/wow/images/Solt_20_08_2006.gif - small version of gandalf :-) |
| 13:54.53 | Kebinusan | I swear they look for the debuff before healing |
| 13:55.08 | Azurewrath | jup.. they always wait for that |
| 13:55.46 | Azurewrath | should test it with a few linen bandages |
| 14:00.15 | Health | My renews ticks for ~400 |
| 14:00.26 | phyber | Mmm. |
| 14:00.46 | maia | Health: whoa. I cant pass the 270. Are you wearing +1000 healing? |
| 14:00.49 | phyber | some of our healers tick for ~320 now. it's quite nice. |
| 14:01.15 | Health | maia, around 800... and the aq20 book.. and improved renew |
| 14:01.18 | [Ammo] | well you need the mad +hot for maexxna |
| 14:01.45 | maia | Health: hmm, I need to check again. I also have the AQ20 book, improved renew and about +400healing. |
| 14:02.54 | dreadlyone | +443 =] |
| 14:03.13 | maia | maybe I'm just dreaming I only renew for 270. |
| 14:03.15 | dreadlyone | renews that is |
| 14:04.07 | Health | Hehe :) |
| 14:04.19 | Health | Well.. it's a bit of a difference between 800 and 400 healing :p |
| 14:04.30 | phyber | GlobalStrings.lua has some socketing strings now. |
| 14:05.24 | JoshBorke | eh? |
| 14:06.49 | CIA-11 | 03werehamster * r8686 10IFrameManager/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:06.50 | CIA-11 | IFrameManager: |
| 14:06.50 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:06.50 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:07.11 | Jagobah | ftp://67.19.139.94/WoW-1.11.2.5464-to-1.12.0.5595-enUS-patch.exe |
| 14:08.38 | CIA-11 | 03andalia 07andalia * r8687 10Teknicolor/Core.lua: |
| 14:08.38 | CIA-11 | Teknicolor (branch): |
| 14:08.38 | CIA-11 | - Did something wrong in first commit |
| 14:08.47 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r8688 10SmartRes/ (SmartRes.lua SmartRes.toc): SmartRes: converted stuff to locals, reordered functions etc. Drycoded, so it might not work. Please test. |
| 14:09.02 | phyber | Andalia: what have you added to your Teknicolor branch? |
| 14:09.23 | CIA-11 | 03andalia 07andalia * r8689 10Teknicolor_tab/Core.lua: |
| 14:09.23 | CIA-11 | Teknicolor_tab (branch): |
| 14:09.23 | CIA-11 | - Did something wrong in first commit 2 |
| 14:10.59 | Andalia | phyber: http://svn.wowace.com/svnweb/index.cgi/root/log/branches/ |
| 14:11.22 | Andalia | go down to r8662 |
| 14:11.36 | _icetrain | btw maia, RosterLib:IterateRoster() could use a check for a valid roster in the return function so it returns nothing instead of an error :) |
| 14:12.07 | maia | _icetrain: go add it :) |
| 14:16.21 | CIA-11 | 03werehamster * r8690 10IFrameFactory/: |
| 14:16.21 | CIA-11 | IFrameFactory: |
| 14:16.21 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:16.42 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8691 10BattleChat/BattleChat.lua: |
| 14:16.42 | CIA-11 | BattleChat: |
| 14:16.42 | CIA-11 | The frame layout works. |
| 14:16.43 | CIA-11 | Now I have to manage which message goes where. |
| 14:16.46 | _icetrain | yeah maybe later then, gotta go out for a while |
| 14:17.29 | maia | _icetrain: actually, when are you encountering a nonexising roster? shouldnt happen anymore. |
| 14:17.35 | phyber | Andalia: ahh. :) |
| 14:17.39 | maia | other than on reload maybe. |
| 14:20.29 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r8692 10SmartRes/SmartRes.lua: SmartRes: fixed problem with finding correct spell |
| 14:20.56 | _icetrain | got a next() error when trying /raver in oRA2 just to get the window up and check it's mobility |
| 14:21.01 | _icetrain | #1 was nil |
| 14:22.34 | Nickenyfiken | "Raid Pullout frames are now created on demand and will not take up any memory if you are not using them." So i can stop using MiniBlizzRaid now? |
| 14:22.41 | _icetrain | was most likely after a reload btw |
| 14:22.44 | yacoob | So, it's 1.12 or not? |
| 14:24.11 | Cairenn | yes |
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| 14:25.06 | Nickenyfiken | yes to my question? |
| 14:25.28 | Cairenn | to yacoob's |
| 14:26.01 | Nickenyfiken | ok |
| 14:26.16 | Nickenyfiken | haha support for iTunes in WoW |
| 14:26.18 | Cairenn | 1.12 is live, you can download here if you hate the blizz patcher: http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/#p1.12.0 and you can read the patch notes here: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=27761#post27761 |
| 14:26.28 | yacoob | thanks, Cairenn. |
| 14:27.11 | Cairenn | welcome |
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| 14:27.43 | Health | US 1.12 up? |
| 14:27.55 | yacoob | and I was about to look for some ace replacements for my mods, will have to wait :) |
| 14:28.17 | Mikma | http://www.woostercollective.com/images/2006/07/cardust.jpg |
| 14:29.22 | *** topic/#wowace by Cairenn -> wowace.com | http://ace.pastey.net/ | http://www.lua.org/pil <-- READ IT | Ace 2.0.3768 Beta Release [07/01/06] | http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/ | Ace is dead. Long live Ace! | Yes, 1.12 is live on US |
| 14:29.42 | Health | Hooray! |
| 14:29.56 | Health | So no phat crashes due to cross server battlegrounds? |
| 14:30.17 | Cairenn | servers aren't up yet, so who knows |
| 14:30.22 | sedatedChipmunk | not until the servers are up, at least |
| 14:30.43 | phyber | does anyone use the CoinPickupFrame for anything? I've never felt the need to use it, or even seen the point in it. |
| 14:31.11 | Health | That's what I meant with the "up" apart in my question.. then the topic changed.. |
| 14:31.15 | phyber | (wondering since I'm doing MoneyFu and there is code there for it) |
| 14:31.25 | *** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 14:32.27 | Health | I'm sure some use it to trade gold |
| 14:32.50 | Health | Click the frame, get some gold and the just click on a player or target |
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| 14:33.34 | Azurewrath | found that function once.. but never used it.. its faster to type in the money in the trade frame.. |
| 14:33.47 | Azurewrath | so.. get rid of it ;) |
| 14:35.31 | Mikma | oh neat |
| 14:35.34 | Mikma | 1.4 Tinypad |
| 14:35.47 | Mikma | - Fixed Run Page bug (page saves before running) |
| 14:36.10 | wereHamster | will sending a message to BATTLEGROUND be redirected to RAID when the player isn't in a battleground but a raid? |
| 14:37.01 | Soltanis | wereHamster : doubt that is what message to Battleground is meant to be used for |
| 14:37.30 | wereHamster | since a player aotomatically joins a raid when he enters a battleground, the BATTLEGROUND channel doeasn't make sense to me |
| 14:38.03 | phyber | I think that happens if you send to RAID but are only in a PARTY, maybe it happens for the BATTLEGROUND too. |
| 14:38.20 | Soltanis | im sure there will be some way to make your own raids in a battleground |
| 14:38.35 | Soltanis | im sure ther ewill be elitests still like me who refuse to talk to pugs in a raid |
| 14:39.19 | Azurewrath | just don't join Battlegrounds without a complete Group ;) |
| 14:39.35 | Soltanis | can't join AV as a group :-( |
| 14:40.31 | wereHamster | it's possible to create two different raids in a battleground? |
| 14:40.52 | Soltanis | i should hope so wereHamster, |
| 14:41.16 | wereHamster | ok, so BATTLEGROUND sends the message to all and RAID only to your own raid |
| 14:41.43 | Soltanis | yeah, well of your faction i suspect :-) |
| 14:42.02 | wereHamster | that means I'll create three channels in my CommChannel addon: guild, group and battleground |
| 14:42.16 | Azurewrath | Soltanis: thats the reason why i don't do AV anymore.. sucks when you're exalted |
| 14:43.13 | Soltanis | Azurewrath : not sure some times i get the urge to flask up and sit in a BG just to see what crits i can get :-) |
| 14:43.34 | Azurewrath | hehehe, poor T0 randoms ;) |
| 14:44.06 | Soltanis | anyway gotta go back to house work :-( |
| 14:45.44 | Kebinusan | Mikma, yeah that tinypad bug was driving me nuts the other day was happy to see that |
| 14:45.52 | Mikma | Kebinusan: amen |
| 14:47.18 | Kebinusan | Im hoping that queue times go down on my realm |
| 14:47.25 | Kebinusan | but not too much, I do enjoy farming between games |
| 14:47.41 | Azurewrath | mhm, ctra 1.54 final is out if anyone cares ;) |
| 14:47.53 | Kebinusan | ./violin |
| 14:49.04 | Kebinusan | Im still waiting for metamap to add a raidassist |
| 14:49.10 | Kebinusan | it seems to support just about everything else |
| 14:49.13 | Jagobah | my ftp has it mirrored just in case |
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| 14:51.21 | Kebinusan | yeah, unfortunately I mirrored ctra for my guild too |
| 14:51.43 | Kebinusan | I should just package ora and sraidframes in a ctra zip and see if they notice the difference |
| 14:52.28 | Jagobah | speaking of |
| 14:52.34 | Jagobah | is oRA updated for 1.12 |
| 14:53.08 | Kebinusan | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1543#devzone Thats going to be kinda cool, sync'd summons |
| 14:53.35 | Kebinusan | I believe ammo said it will work with 1.12 |
| 14:54.38 | Kebinusan | yup, should work |
| 14:55.03 | Kebinusan | will it work with ctra, well thats another question <g> |
| 14:56.25 | Azurewrath | Kebinusan: they won't if you don't force them to.. :/ |
| 14:56.56 | Kebinusan | Yeah, Im slowly converting them to BigWigs |
| 14:57.03 | Azurewrath | introduced BigWigs and oRA some time ago and said that atleast BigWigs is way better then ctra_bossmods .. |
| 14:57.05 | Kebinusan | its nice to hear a new person come into the fold |
| 14:57.10 | Azurewrath | about 5 people use it now... |
| 14:57.36 | Jagobah | When I introduced BigWigs, people loved it |
| 14:57.42 | Kebinusan | Yeah, itd be nice if cide could majorly break ctra for a day or two |
| 14:57.47 | haste | 20+ in my guild uses BigWigs |
| 14:57.51 | haste | then a large part uses oRA also |
| 14:57.53 | Jagobah | I truly believe that BigWigs helped us kill Maexxna with its timer bars |
| 14:58.01 | haste | but me gains AFKness again ;3 |
| 14:58.11 | yacoob | Hmm. |
| 14:58.16 | Jagobah | Which without we'd be in a haste of confusion |
| 14:58.27 | yacoob | Is there any ace-addon that would be as flexible as discord action bars? |
| 14:58.37 | Soltanis | Kebinusan : sync'ed summons? |
| 14:58.57 | Kebinusan | visor, but you'd be better off performing self mutiliation |
| 14:59.09 | eternally777 | Was Ckk's "r" key broken when we typed up the wiki docs on AceComm-2.0? |
| 14:59.22 | Kebinusan | Soltanis, it sounds like raidsummon will be using some sort of queuing system between all locks using it |
| 14:59.28 | yacoob | Kebinusan: I was rather expecting to match visor to dfm :) |
| 14:59.33 | yacoob | dfm+dart even |
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| 14:59.59 | yacoob | of course you can do actionbars on that, but it'll be a gigantic work |
| 15:00.20 | Soltanis | Kebinusan : awesome then it will be the mod i have been waiting for , for a long time |
| 15:00.30 | Kebinusan | there are a few nice bar addons, but none I know of that provide the sort of event system dab does |
| 15:00.49 | Kebinusan | Soltanis, check it out, raidsummon is pretty cool already |
| 15:01.03 | Kebinusan | the mass summoning everyone not in your zone is pretty nice |
| 15:01.10 | Soltanis | Whisper Cast does enough for me at the moment |
| 15:01.29 | yacoob | Kebinusan: the most important thing is to change bars upon changing stancing, usability of various actions and, well, yes, inventory/bag updates... |
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| 15:01.57 | Soltanis | yacoob : stance changes are built into most of the bar mods for ace |
| 15:02.05 | Kebinusan | I fould pubcrawl to be pretty nice |
| 15:02.08 | Kebinusan | *found |
| 15:02.14 | Kebinusan | but its missing pet action bars :-( |
| 15:02.48 | Soltanis | but ace bar addons are generally designed by the creator , to how they use it, it doesn't have all the bloat to fit all users into one more like DAB |
| 15:02.51 | Kebinusan | Theres.. bartender, ackbar, and probably like three or four more bar mods on the svn, but I havent checked them out |
| 15:03.08 | yacoob | thing is, I'd like to get down with lua memory usage. Right now it's 55MBs. |
| 15:03.14 | Kebinusan | ouch |
| 15:03.26 | Soltanis | that screams DART that dues :-) |
| 15:03.31 | Soltanis | does* |
| 15:03.37 | Kebinusan | yeah I switched to pubcrawl because it only used like 1mb compared to my DAB 5mb |
| 15:03.45 | Azurewrath | hehe, i'm at ~32mb with DUF and DAB |
| 15:04.12 | yacoob | Azurewrath: dumb Auctioneer is keeping the whole date at account level |
| 15:04.16 | Soltanis | yacoob : got a screenshot of your current UI, maybe we can help you out |
| 15:04.23 | yacoob | and what use are data from server A on server B? |
| 15:04.27 | yacoob | Soltanis: sure, sec. |
| 15:04.45 | Azurewrath | ah well, tried Auctioneer once.. deleted it after |
| 15:04.51 | yacoob | http://hell.pl/yacoob/sakwa/gfx/wow/ui/_thumbs/2006-06-28.raid.ui.example.1.png.html - here's the look |
| 15:05.00 | MentalPower|Univ | yacoob: because there is no SavedVariablesPerRealm |
| 15:05.02 | Kebinusan | I keep auctioneer for my AH mule |
| 15:05.02 | yacoob | here's the list of addons: http://hell.pl/yacoob/map.txt |
| 15:05.15 | yacoob | MentalPower|Univ: but there's per char. |
| 15:05.23 | MentalPower|Univ | and SavedVariablesPerChar is too grained |
| 15:05.35 | yacoob | that's the price :) |
| 15:05.36 | MentalPower|Univ | some people (myself included) have multiple chars on a single server |
| 15:05.52 | Soltanis | is that gatherer i see on the top right? |
| 15:06.01 | Soltanis | of your minimap |
| 15:06.03 | MentalPower|Univ | and it would be quite a pain to scan 5 times, just cause I have 5chars on a server |
| 15:06.07 | yacoob | MentalPower|Univ: well, yes, that's the problem :( |
| 15:06.21 | MentalPower|Univ | if you have any other suggestions, I'm open |
| 15:06.25 | yacoob | Soltanis: yup. |
| 15:06.32 | Azurewrath | is that Titan on the bottom? ;) |
| 15:07.05 | Soltanis | Azurewrath : yeah :-( |
| 15:07.20 | Azurewrath | replace it with FuBar :) |
| 15:07.33 | Mikma | <1803> >>> CSE|Deadly`afk is AFK, auto away after 60 minutes. |
| 15:07.35 | Mikma | :D |
| 15:07.36 | Kebinusan | yeah thats a big chunk |
| 15:07.41 | Azurewrath | and that HitsMode with SimpleCombatLog |
| 15:07.50 | yacoob | MentalPower|Univ: :) |
| 15:07.56 | yacoob | MentalPower|Univ: well, I see no other clean solution. |
| 15:08.10 | yacoob | excluding merging the data outside the game |
| 15:08.21 | yacoob | Azurewrath: it is SCL. |
| 15:08.29 | Azurewrath | oh. |
| 15:08.45 | Azurewrath | well, you could replace TipBuddy with TinyTip ;) |
| 15:09.05 | Soltanis | well i think he was looking for a bar mod specificly |
| 15:09.18 | Soltanis | we can't go making change his entire interface just yet :-) |
| 15:09.20 | yacoob | Azurewrath: and as for titan, I'll check fubar, but last time I've checked, it only took ~1MB. While discords together took ~15MB |
| 15:09.21 | Azurewrath | eCastingbar maybe with otravi_castingbar |
| 15:09.24 | Azurewrath | sure we can ;p |
| 15:09.55 | yacoob | plan for today is, grab most mem hungry addons (according to warmup, unless you have better solution :) and look for replacement. |
| 15:10.01 | Kebinusan | as for bar mods well if you arent doing anything complex like events or buttons that show up/swap depending on targets... well bongos is a pretty decent solution.. maybe bartender |
| 15:10.05 | yacoob | Another painful thing is EngBags - very useful, very fat. |
| 15:10.22 | Kebinusan | yeah, I went with onebag/mrplow and its been pretty acceptable for me |
| 15:10.34 | yacoob | (very = 6 MB) |
| 15:10.53 | Kebinusan | engbag depending on the version is terrible if your bag contents change during combat |
| 15:11.24 | Soltanis | Kebinusan : don't think he can do his ui with bartender |
| 15:11.39 | yacoob | not with bartender, at least according to the description of it :) |
| 15:12.10 | Soltanis | Rows of 10 not 12 |
| 15:12.23 | CIA-11 | 03moonsorrow 07otravi * r8693 10otravi_CastingBar/oCB/core.lua: |
| 15:12.23 | CIA-11 | oCB: |
| 15:12.23 | CIA-11 | - fixed a bug with changing settings for the mirrorbar |
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| 15:12.51 | Soltanis | anyway i keep getting distracted |
| 15:12.54 | Soltanis | back to house work |
| 15:12.59 | Neronix`work | (Yes, the heathend made me work on a school day) |
| 15:13.04 | Neronix`work | s/end/ens/ |
| 15:13.17 | Kebinusan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1596.0.html http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1715.0.html may be good unit frame alternatives for you |
| 15:13.20 | yacoob | example of DAB usage: switching pages on friendly/unfriendly, unusability of action (auto-shoot for hunter), stealth, stance and so on. |
| 15:14.32 | Kebinusan | yeah DAB is a very hard one to replace |
| 15:14.33 | yacoob | or a more complex, bar with weapon buffs, leftclick applies it to main hand, rightclick - offhand |
| 15:14.56 | Kebinusan | I really havent found a satisfactory replacement |
| 15:15.26 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8694 10BattleChat/BattleChat.lua: |
| 15:15.26 | CIA-11 | BattleChat: |
| 15:15.26 | CIA-11 | - Seems to be usable now but needs a lot of tuning |
| 15:15.26 | CIA-11 | - Frame saves position |
| 15:15.26 | CIA-11 | - Targets with long names destroy the whole layout if targetchange is enabled. |
| 15:15.26 | CIA-11 | - If the death-messages are too long, remove the %s from the killtext in the options. |
| 15:15.30 | CIA-11 | - |
| 15:15.34 | Kebinusan | I jsut decided to screw unit frames and run dhud since I never really need to heal my party and rarely do anything outside of a raid |
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| 15:16.05 | snurre | hm, how much hitpoints does grand widow faerlina have? |
| 15:16.21 | *** part/#wowace [Liquidor] (i=Dennis@port227.ds1-sg.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 15:16.27 | Health | Kebinusan, dhud lacks target of target |
| 15:16.37 | yacoob | I wonder about flexbar |
| 15:16.49 | Kebinusan | health, yeah I get that from maintank frames so it was kind of redundant anyway |
| 15:16.54 | yacoob | I'm not exactly scared of /commands, it will only take time. |
| 15:16.58 | Kebinusan | but I'll probably switch to icehud soon |
| 15:17.13 | Health | That is fugly :) |
| 15:17.20 | Health | compared it chud |
| 15:17.25 | Health | err |
| 15:17.25 | Health | d |
| 15:17.33 | Kebinusan | yea, its getting better though |
| 15:17.49 | Kebinusan | the functionality is pretty solid atm, textures shouldnt be far behind I hope |
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| 15:17.59 | yacoob | btw, does any of those uf mods you've pasted above Kebi, allow for free movement of each frame elements? |
| 15:18.03 | Health | Too bad dhud author went all emo |
| 15:18.22 | Kebinusan | Health, lol yeah, he probably moved dhud to myspace |
| 15:18.53 | Kebinusan | snurre, not sure about gwf's hp why? |
| 15:19.11 | snurre | just wondering.. guildies doing some theorycrafting :p |
| 15:19.59 | Kebinusan | ["Grand Widow Faerlina:-1"] = 1302576, |
| 15:20.04 | Kebinusan | from mob health, seems about right |
| 15:20.35 | Jagobah | :O |
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| 15:23.54 | Kebinusan | The followers are about 100k each |
| 15:24.52 | MoonWolf | where is that really good talent calculator that did the all three on one page thingy before blizz ? |
| 15:25.10 | Health | What happens with minimap icons with squareminimap? |
| 15:25.20 | MoonWolf | nevermind found it |
| 15:25.23 | Health | wowhead? |
| 15:25.25 | Codayus | wowheadwowhead.com/talent/ |
| 15:25.25 | yacoob | MoonWolf: http://wowhead.com |
| 15:25.31 | Codayus | I fail. |
| 15:25.33 | Codayus | Too slow |
| 15:25.35 | Codayus | :0( |
| 15:25.44 | Codayus | :-( even. zomg, I mispell smilies. |
| 15:25.46 | Codayus | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.02 | yacoob | Health: nothing, they still tend to stay in circle |
| 15:26.10 | yacoob | Health: I either disabled or moved them |
| 15:28.43 | Mikma | hahaha |
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| 15:28.55 | Mikma | "please whisper tricia the word 'lol' for raidinvite" |
| 15:29.14 | Mikma | that's pretty funny, try it sometimes :D |
| 15:29.35 | Kebinusan | I saw some with a rez macro that said: "lawl, %t died. |
| 15:30.51 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8695 10BattleChat/BattleChat.lua: BattleChat: Tweaked AceOptions-Table |
| 15:31.29 | Soltanis | bet they felt great typing out "lawl"...... |
| 15:31.53 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8696 10SidebarCombatLog/SidebarCombatLog.lua: SidebarCombatLog: Tweaked AceOptions-Table |
| 15:32.28 | Mikma | Andalia: battlechat? :) |
| 15:34.38 | yacoob | HMMM. |
| 15:34.51 | yacoob | Any smart way to get the warmup output to a file? |
| 15:34.57 | yacoob | the frame is uneditable |
| 15:35.17 | Zicon | mikma: Well, people might actually manage to follow that instruction... |
| 15:35.36 | Mikma | Zicon: yes, they do :D |
| 15:39.44 | hyperChipmunk | yacoob: make it insert table entries instead of printing to the frame, and copy the resulting table to a sv |
| 15:40.03 | yacoob | gotta love sandbox :) |
| 15:40.15 | yacoob | (actually, the data is already there, in sv :) |
| 15:40.27 | Rophy | andalia, aren't SidebarCombatLog and BattleChat the same addon? |
| 15:40.55 | hyperChipmunk | there ya go |
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| 15:42.04 | Amadeo | damn...patch day...get ready for the servers do go down right after they go live :P |
| 15:42.10 | Mikma | andreasg: why are you here? ;) shouldn't you be somewhere on a beach or so? |
| 15:42.58 | andreasg | I'm hotel |
| 15:43.57 | Mikma | ok can i book you? |
| 15:45.04 | haste | This is the work of black helmet man! |
| 15:48.16 | Amadeo | So, how does this cross-server battleground thing work? |
| 15:48.21 | Amadeo | What server hosts the battleground? |
| 15:49.39 | Amadeo | if Akama hosts the battlegrounds, nobody will play |
| 15:49.40 | Amadeo | haha |
| 15:49.57 | Amadeo | if a new server is dedicated just to BGs, that would be cool |
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| 15:51.30 | Cairenn | stress relief thread is up: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=27768#post27768 |
| 15:53.13 | Iceroth | haha, that sky ain't bad :P |
| 15:53.22 | oxman | i've finish my health bar to use with ocb, someone want test ? |
| 15:53.29 | oxman | I need tester :) |
| 15:54.21 | Amadeo | oxman: Why would I want to see your health bar! I need to see mine! |
| 15:54.44 | Amadeo | :) |
| 15:54.58 | oxman | it's the health bar of target (and passive target) |
| 15:55.04 | oxman | useful to cancel the spell |
| 15:55.07 | Amadeo | just messing around |
| 15:55.17 | oxman | it's very tedious to move eyes on cast bar and health bar of target |
| 15:55.17 | oxman | :) |
| 15:55.48 | Amadeo | Just when I started making a name for myself on my server, now we'll have cross BGs and nobody will know me anymore :P |
| 15:56.02 | oxman | ah ah ah :p |
| 15:56.05 | oxman | it's simple |
| 15:56.13 | oxman | "FUCK DA NOOB, FUCK YOU MOTHER" |
| 15:56.15 | oxman | say that in each bg |
| 15:56.20 | oxman | say that each 2mn in each bg |
| 15:56.21 | hyperChipmunk | sure, just carry a giant GM weapon and it wont' be long |
| 15:56.23 | oxman | you will have a big name ;p |
| 15:56.33 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: That's the problem, I'm all blues and greens :P |
| 15:56.50 | Amadeo | but I noticed I'm getting a lot of emotes when people attack me now |
| 15:57.05 | oxman | :b |
| 15:57.09 | oxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.14 | Amadeo | yep |
| 15:57.14 | Amadeo | haha |
| 15:57.51 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r8697 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: more implementation of MainTankFrames. Still pretty much a straight copy from the old one. |
| 15:59.31 | Amadeo | oh man |
| 15:59.35 | Amadeo | I forgot this was the Rogue patch |
| 15:59.39 | Kebinusan | I used to get mind controlled and emoted love songs |
| 16:01.09 | yacoob | http://hell.pl/yacoob/map.txt the list sorted by mem usage |
| 16:01.28 | FISKER_Q | [Ammo] you there? |
| 16:01.35 | Kebinusan | Whats chanbuddy? |
| 16:03.14 | yacoob | Kebinusan: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4546-group-finder-chanbuddy-lfg.html |
| 16:03.41 | yacoob | (and as for engbags, I use this: someone is at least patching it up: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4333-engbags-updated.html ) |
| 16:04.12 | hyperChipmunk | engbags 'updated' enginv by making it even BIGGER |
| 16:04.16 | [Ammo] | Fisker I am |
| 16:04.21 | hyperChipmunk | that's not exactly what people were looking for |
| 16:04.33 | yacoob | hyperChipmunk: unfortunatelly, it's useful :( |
| 16:04.48 | yacoob | besides, like I said - I'll start with disabling those addons, and see whether it helps anything. |
| 16:05.01 | coalado | it's unusable big and slow |
| 16:05.04 | yacoob | If it does, I'll be looking for replacement. If it won't... well, some work saved :) |
| 16:05.12 | Kebinusan | like three of the addons in the top 25 are auctioneer addons |
| 16:05.25 | yacoob | coalado: EngBags? Useful for me :P |
| 16:05.26 | Kebinusan | if you dont use them often, consider just enabling them on an AH mule |
| 16:05.40 | [Ammo] | FISKER_Q: bleep |
| 16:05.48 | yacoob | Kebinusan: Now I'd have to make one :) |
| 16:05.52 | wereHamster | Do we already have channel prefix standards? like "WARRIOR" to send a message to all warriors in a raid etc? |
| 16:05.57 | coalado | Using it.. i hat a lag everytime I shot at someone.. |
| 16:06.07 | FISKER_Q | bleeep bleeep |
| 16:06.12 | [Ammo] | wassssup |
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| 16:06.18 | FISKER_Q | about you closing the mark task |
| 16:06.22 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 16:06.25 | [Ammo] | I fixed it |
| 16:06.27 | coalado | the bag update event caused a lag on every shot... not very nice when playing a hunter |
| 16:06.28 | FISKER_Q | did you mean "already fixed" as you fixed it after or before? |
| 16:06.39 | [Ammo] | check RaidIcon.lua logs |
| 16:06.46 | FISKER_Q | ok |
| 16:07.00 | [Ammo] | it needs everyone in the raid to update ofcourse |
| 16:07.07 | yacoob | any replacement for gatherer? :) |
| 16:07.09 | FISKER_Q | ig |
| 16:07.10 | FISKER_Q | oh |
| 16:07.11 | [Ammo] | because the one setting the icon will be the one removing it |
| 16:07.12 | Kebinusan | coalado, that was probably fixed in the updated ver, but its still way too big as much as I liked the features it didnt take me long to get comfortable with onebag+mrplow |
| 16:07.25 | FISKER_Q | i seriously need to get them on the svn wagon then |
| 16:07.40 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1939.new#new |
| 16:07.42 | [Ammo] | but I don't have much time to change stuff atm |
| 16:07.44 | Kebinusan | fubar for titan panel will probably help a bunch, I remember having a terrible increasing rate wtih titan |
| 16:07.47 | Industrial | this dude cracks me up |
| 16:07.52 | Industrial | its just too funney |
| 16:07.53 | Industrial | :P |
| 16:07.53 | [Ammo] | I'm working like a mad monkey atm |
| 16:08.01 | Kebinusan | Industrial, is this the 2ms thing still? |
| 16:08.08 | [Ammo] | fleshing out maintankframes framework |
| 16:08.12 | FISKER_Q | getting a bit silly having to make sure their others bigwigs are disabled so they don't used outdated boss warnings |
| 16:08.20 | Kebinusan | oh something new |
| 16:08.24 | Mikma | Andalia: so, What's BattleChat and how does it work? :) |
| 16:08.25 | Industrial | Kebinusan, its the 'im lazy wheres the ace compilation' thing |
| 16:08.46 | [Ammo] | Industrial you mean it's the 'I'm industrial and I like to bash on people' thing |
| 16:08.51 | Andalia | Mikma: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1945.0.html |
| 16:08.54 | Industrial | yeah that too |
| 16:09.13 | [Ammo] | that attitude will get you far in this world |
| 16:09.30 | [Ammo] | you could have pointed him to the thread where the addons were listed |
| 16:09.33 | [Ammo] | by Thrae I think |
| 16:09.39 | Industrial | by me :P |
| 16:09.45 | yacoob | Any replacement for CECB? |
| 16:09.53 | Andalia | Mikma: I don't know if i'll use it myself but sbcl was a good thing to start from and so i decided to make this |
| 16:09.57 | Jagobah | hostelbar! |
| 16:10.15 | yacoob | *noted* will try that |
| 16:10.24 | Kebinusan | necb is just as bloated |
| 16:10.33 | Kebinusan | even more so it does bosses too! |
| 16:10.46 | [Ammo] | Thrae has written a better thread |
| 16:10.47 | Industrial | [Ammo], well if you begin your first post and request with "i'm too lazy".. nu-uh.. thats no how it goes |
| 16:10.55 | FISKER_Q | anyone know if i can roughly use detox as a non-decurser? |
| 16:10.59 | FISKER_Q | like getting the live list and such |
| 16:11.10 | FISKER_Q | just to see how it roughly is compared to decursive |
| 16:11.33 | [Ammo] | yuo can fisker afaik |
| 16:11.45 | Kebinusan | Funny story, I downloaded this mod called grimoire keeper or something, it colored grimores at the demon trainer so you could see what you had purchased or not |
| 16:12.00 | Kebinusan | it turns out Ive been playing for half a year without devour magic rank 4 |
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| 16:12.09 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 16:12.20 | yacoob | Kebinusan: try demon training frame, it turns daemon trainer into standard trainer |
| 16:12.24 | Amadeo | I hate the new grimore system |
| 16:12.27 | yacoob | instead of vendor |
| 16:12.42 | Amadeo | yacoob: That's how it used to be, before Blizzard changed it, lol |
| 16:13.04 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r8698 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: commit for more maintankframe stuff |
| 16:13.04 | Kebinusan | yacoob, well I dont need it anymore but seeing its name sort of reminded me about that |
| 16:13.32 | yacoob | hehe :) |
| 16:13.54 | Mikma | Andalia: oh you started on doing the mockup, neat :D |
| 16:14.19 | Health | penis |
| 16:14.22 | evl | Am I reading tekSupport wrong or why does my CharacterSecondaryHandSlot click in at 40MiB |
| 16:14.37 | [Ammo] | evl: hunter I presume? |
| 16:14.45 | evl | Rogue |
| 16:14.48 | [Ammo] | then I dunno |
| 16:14.51 | evl | my offhand is Cruel hand of Timmy |
| 16:15.28 | yacoob | poor Timmy |
| 16:16.40 | yacoob | so... need to find something as a replacement for: DUF, Gatherer, DART+DFM, and CTRA. |
| 16:16.49 | yacoob | oRA for the last one? :) |
| 16:16.57 | yacoob | how much compatible with CTRA it is? |
| 16:17.02 | evl | oUF |
| 16:17.10 | evl | DART is one simple XML file |
| 16:17.14 | Codayus | oRA is compatible. |
| 16:17.27 | [Ammo] | oRA2 is compatible with CTRA 1.54 |
| 16:17.34 | [Ammo] | oRA isn't |
| 16:19.07 | Andalia | [Ammo]: Can I still use ora2 with 1.11/old ctra then? |
| 16:19.59 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 16:20.02 | [Ammo] | well |
| 16:20.04 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 16:20.14 | [Ammo] | with 1.11 you can with 1.12 it'll be using the new thing |
| 16:20.14 | Tekcub | erf |
| 16:20.18 | [Ammo] | it's the tek |
| 16:20.27 | Andalia | ;) |
| 16:20.32 | [Ammo] | everyone! tek is back! spam him with requests! |
| 16:20.35 | [Ammo] | gogogo! |
| 16:20.36 | Tekcub | do I have a tatto on my forehead that says "Ask me how I can fix your fucking computer"? |
| 16:20.38 | Industrial | [Ammo], http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1939.msg37287.html#msg37287 |
| 16:20.41 | yacoob | the only problem I see with keeping so much addons in SVN, that most of them will lack "releases" as most folks are used to |
| 16:20.42 | Zicon | tekcub: Yes. |
| 16:20.44 | Industrial | [Ammo], there you happy too now? |
| 16:20.47 | Tekcub | fuck |
| 16:20.53 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 16:20.55 | yacoob | at least some tags would be nice :) |
| 16:21.11 | FISKER_Q | sow hat we're using ora2 today/tomorrow? |
| 16:21.11 | FISKER_Q | so what* |
| 16:21.14 | [Ammo] | industrial good idea |
| 16:21.16 | Industrial | mooi :P hebben we dat ook weer gehad.. |
| 16:21.25 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 16:21.28 | [Ammo] | I bet it does |
| 16:21.38 | [Ammo] | too bad I can't transfer gold to US servers |
| 16:21.44 | [Ammo] | otherwise we could have us a proper bet |
| 16:21.48 | Amadeo | yacoob: Authors will release their addons if they finish them |
| 16:22.32 | oxman | what's the command to know if you cast a spell with the standard bar ? |
| 16:22.32 | Laric | hmm if a fubar plugin starts with a detached tooltip it bugs out :( |
| 16:22.39 | oxman | something like castingframe.iscasting ? |
| 16:23.03 | Industrial | oxman, I think there was a library for something like that |
| 16:23.13 | oxman | I don't want a library for a command |
| 16:23.22 | oxman | it's like say use a library to do TargetUnit(unit) |
| 16:23.36 | Industrial | you'd probably want one to handle something in a good way though |
| 16:23.44 | oxman | no |
| 16:23.45 | Industrial | maybe its badly implemented by blizzard? |
| 16:23.54 | oxman | only want if is cast a spell or not |
| 16:24.04 | oxman | but forget you don't understand |
| 16:24.15 | Industrial | I do, you dont |
| 16:24.16 | Industrial | whatever |
| 16:24.28 | oxman | yes yes use a library for a simple command |
| 16:24.32 | oxman | and you understand |
| 16:24.58 | [Ammo] | oxman: you need to either trigger of an event or hook a useaction, castspell etc |
| 16:25.00 | CIA-11 | 03theondry * r8699 10SnaFu/ (Changes.txt SnaFu-enUS.lua SnaFu.lua SnaFu.toc readme.txt): |
| 16:25.00 | CIA-11 | SnaFu: |
| 16:25.00 | CIA-11 | 1.2 22Aug06 |
| 16:25.00 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.00 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.09 | Tekcub | is there another diff tool out there aside from tort that's not command line? |
| 16:25.11 | oxman | i already hook that |
| 16:25.18 | Tekcub | tort isn't liking 2/3 of the diffs I throw at it |
| 16:25.23 | oxman | but want know when the casting frame is up |
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| 16:25.40 | oxman | there is a simple tip to do that, used in few example of manaconserv in macro |
| 16:26.33 | [Ammo] | tekcub: winmerge ? |
| 16:26.39 | [Ammo] | or something like that |
| 16:26.44 | [Ammo] | gotta get home |
| 16:26.46 | [Ammo] | ~ |
| 16:28.40 | oxman | CastingBarFrame.casting |
| 16:28.41 | Amadeo | oh wow |
| 16:28.42 | oxman | is that :) |
| 16:28.42 | Amadeo | a new PvP realm |
| 16:28.44 | Amadeo | EST too |
| 16:28.47 | Amadeo | that makes me happy |
| 16:32.39 | Industrial | Tekcub, vim has a diff tool :E |
| 16:32.48 | Industrial | vimdiff \o/ |
| 16:32.49 | Tekcub | Don't use six |
| 16:32.59 | Tekcub | winmerge looks like it'll work |
| 16:34.29 | yacoob | Amadeo: re: release: of course, but seeing how "quality of developement" varies outside ace world, comparing stuff seen on cursegaming for example, such thing could also happen here |
| 16:35.29 | yacoob | Amadeo: that is, a person mocks up something, commits, gives it some loving, and then abandons or neglectes - the svn doesn't give enough info to the casual user about "how much alpha/beta/tested this thing is" |
| 16:35.33 | coalado | is it possible to remove special events from witchhunter? |
| 16:35.43 | coalado | auto shot is not very interesting |
| 16:36.12 | yacoob | that's why I said a rough "tagging rules" would be neat :) |
| 16:36.54 | Amadeo | yacoob: But that's all up to the author, what they want to do with it...I have Hitman on SVN, I don't want it on WoWI or anything because it was something I mainly put together (with tons of help here) for my own use...I don't want to add features or anything, and if it ever breaks, I may or may not fix it immediately :) |
| 16:37.34 | yacoob | then perhaps, an incentive for authors to remember to release their mods once they're more or less "done" :) |
| 16:37.42 | eternally777 | Are there any mods on the SVN that use AceComm-2.0? I want to see some examples |
| 16:38.26 | hyperChipmunk | i think there's a rock-paper-scissors example mod |
| 16:38.44 | Amadeo | yacoob: But who decides when it's done? The author might have more planned for an addon before they feel it gets to that stage...or the author might think an addon is done while users want more...there's never a balance |
| 16:39.12 | yacoob | Amadeo: that's true, that's why there's "rough" adjective added :) |
| 16:39.15 | eternally777 | hC, ty |
| 16:39.26 | yacoob | "Remeber to release, casual users will love you more!" |
| 16:40.35 | yacoob | Right now I'm in a bit of hesistance - having a set of replacement, should I try addon X from WOWI? Or from svn directly? The first could be "more stable", the latter - more up to date :) |
| 16:40.55 | yacoob | (and yes, as much as I love tweaking the ui, I still love playing MORE than tweaking :) |
| 16:43.05 | hyperChipmunk | i think you're in the wrong channel then |
| 16:43.35 | yacoob | heh, I've peeked into sv of Chanbuddy... it looks like the thing is never removing any data it gets :D |
| 16:43.47 | yacoob | hyperChipmunk: nah, you're great source of information. |
| 16:44.09 | yacoob | So, only Gatherer and DUF left. |
| 16:45.25 | Tekcub | WinMerge can only generate diffs, not apply them >< |
| 16:45.51 | yacoob | Tekcub: diffutils from cygwin? |
| 16:46.28 | oxman | http://www.vim.org/htmldoc/diff.html |
| 16:46.44 | yacoob | (or vim, diffmode is neat :) |
| 16:46.51 | Tekcub | Industrial> Tekcub, vim has a diff tool :E |
| 16:46.51 | Tekcub | <Industrial> vimdiff \o/ |
| 16:46.51 | Tekcub | <Tekcub> Don't use six |
| 16:49.11 | Rophy | what does AceModuleCore do? I know it's for addon modules, but are its benefits / features? |
| 16:51.28 | Rophy | looked at its API on wiki, but I still dont understand what it actually do. |
| 16:52.17 | FISKER_Q | the newest ct_raidasssist doesn't work with 1.11 right? |
| 16:52.55 | Cairenn | better to ask that in the lounge, where cide can answer you personally |
| 16:53.15 | oxman | right FISKER_Q |
| 16:53.19 | oxman | but the older work on 1.12 |
| 16:55.27 | Rophy | Anyone know how to 'control' what is being saved to the saved variables? |
| 16:55.55 | Rophy | Say I have sv = { a=1, b=2 }, but I dun want to output the sv.b to savedvar file. |
| 16:57.31 | oxman | you can't |
| 16:57.48 | Rophy | I think AceDB is doing that, but I'm not sure how. |
| 16:57.53 | FISKER_Q | of course but it won't work with the new communication |
| 16:57.55 | FISKER_Q | what about ora |
| 16:58.01 | FISKER_Q | do we have to change to ora2 tomorrow? |
| 16:58.01 | oxman | or sv is local, the svprocessed is global and you parse sv and don't put b in svprocessed |
| 16:58.06 | Tekcub | ugh |
| 16:58.21 | Tekcub | this is why I fucking hate *nix |
| 16:58.28 | Tekcub | everything is goddamn command line |
| 16:58.32 | oxman | ? |
| 16:58.49 | Rophy | hmm the main questoin is : can I know, and do something, when the saved vars is about to be saved? |
| 16:58.52 | Tekcub | I cannot find a simle lil program to apply diffs with that's not command line |
| 16:59.06 | oxman | try kate |
| 16:59.59 | Tekcub | windows, ox |
| 17:00.01 | FISKER_Q | it took me a day to find out how to install 2 packages dependant on each other |
| 17:00.14 | oxman | < Tekcub> this is why I fucking hate *nix |
| 17:00.19 | oxman | so why you speak about nix !? |
| 17:00.26 | oxman | fuck windows not nix |
| 17:00.32 | Tekcub | every diff/patch program out there is *nix ox |
| 17:00.47 | oxman | so blam windows |
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| 17:00.51 | oxman | they don't have diff program :p |
| 17:01.03 | Tekcub | and yes, fuck nix. I'm not saying command line is bad, I'm saying ONLY command line is bad |
| 17:01.28 | Tekcub | that's why I didn't use the old ace commandline shit, but I'll use AceConsole |
| 17:01.50 | phyber | right, time to see how much I've screwed up on this MoneyFu conversion ;) |
| 17:01.58 | Tekcub | cause it does CL and Menus, and maybe option dialogs if someone ever writes one :) |
| 17:02.27 | yacoob | well, cmd is Very Bad Shell. |
| 17:02.44 | Tekcub | I'm not complaining about shell |
| 17:03.14 | Tekcub | I'm complaining about the fact that I can't type for shit and that is a huge hinderance when people get tunnelvision with the command line |
| 17:03.31 | Tekcub | commandline is great for lots of shit, day to day UI, not really |
| 17:03.44 | yacoob | I'd more or less agree. |
| 17:03.46 | hyperChipmunk | i'd take commandline-only over graphical-only any day |
| 17:03.47 | oxman | :) |
| 17:03.51 | Tain | I'm with hc. |
| 17:04.10 | Tain | Graphical is fine. Just give me a command line option to go with it. |
| 17:04.11 | yacoob | that's why geeks like mac :) |
| 17:04.15 | Tekcub | yes well you people can type well enough |
| 17:04.33 | yacoob | (heh, gatherer is broken in 1.12 :D) |
| 17:04.42 | Tekcub | gatherer broke? kek |
| 17:04.58 | Tekcub | guess I should stop rantin and get the patch downloading |
| 17:05.02 | Tain | Back to work with me. |
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| 17:05.15 | yacoob | speaking of which, anything similar to it? |
| 17:06.01 | Tekcub | gets ready to dig out a torrent file* |
| 17:06.13 | Tekcub | anyone already extracted the torrent? |
| 17:08.12 | Tekkub | I'll take that as a no |
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| 17:09.37 | Azurewrath | Tekkub, http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ |
| 17:10.22 | Amadeo | hey, that's a nice site |
| 17:11.24 | Laric | gatherer is broken since there is a known bug in 1.12 and it wont be fixed until 1.13.... you dont get a message saying "You mine X" |
| 17:11.39 | Amadeo | Gatherer uses 2MB |
| 17:11.45 | Tekkub | stupid CIA |
| 17:11.57 | Tekkub | I slipped the new torrent onto the SVN for everyone |
| 17:12.44 | oxman | already patch 1.12 fr ? |
| 17:13.15 | Amadeo | I get pissed off that each time they upgrade server hardware, they don't touch Akama |
| 17:13.21 | Amadeo | Akama may be a new server, but it's f'd up |
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| 17:21.22 | dreadlyone | yes already working on this even before you said it. my apologies. haven't used my mirc client since wow was released and i stopped playing cs 0_o |
| 17:21.24 | phyber | MoneyFu2 works, but I think I'm doing things wrong with the storage of the stats. |
| 17:21.34 | phyber | I don't understand what the PerChar storage was for, AT ALL. |
| 17:21.50 | Cairenn | dreadlyone: no worries, thank you |
| 17:21.51 | phyber | I'm going to drop it and store everything in self.db.profile, I think. |
| 17:22.25 | Rophy | If I want to use AceModuleCore, do I do this? http://ace.pastey.net/359 |
| 17:22.35 | Health | colors whilst playing cs is cool |
| 17:22.55 | Rophy | The wiki for AceModuleCore can be a little bit more detail IMO... |
| 17:23.47 | Rophy | Anyone actually used AceModuleCore? |
| 17:23.54 | hyperChipmunk | good thing it's a wiki then |
| 17:24.12 | hyperChipmunk | we look forward to your new changes |
| 17:24.33 | Rophy | I can only update the wiki if I actually know how to use the library :p |
| 17:24.53 | phyber | ~seen ckknight |
| 17:25.10 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-102.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 4d 13h 35m 53s ago, saying: 'alright, cya all later, everyone'. |
| 17:25.11 | Rophy | he's the only one who can answer questions about AceModuleCore? |
| 17:25.14 | phyber | :/ |
| 17:25.49 | yacoob | AceModuleCore, a strange chunk of alien technology, fallen from the sky, taken, adapted, and reworked into lua code by ckknight... |
| 17:26.14 | Rophy | <O> |
| 17:26.36 | Health | Rophy, BigWigs does |
| 17:26.49 | _icetrain | and oRA2 |
| 17:26.51 | CIA-11 | 03phyber 07phyber * r8701 10FuBar_MoneyFu/ (FuBar_MoneyFu.toc MoneyFu.lua): |
| 17:26.51 | CIA-11 | MoneyFu: |
| 17:26.51 | CIA-11 | - OK, this works now but I haven't got a clue about the storage of the money details. s/self.charData/self.db.char/ and the like are clearly not the right way of storing it now. |
| 17:26.57 | Tekkub | what's the issue? |
| 17:27.32 | Rophy | I know oRA2 does, and I have to look at the code of oRA2 to see how to use the library, since I can't figure it out by the wiki. |
| 17:27.44 | Rophy | And I want to make sure what I did was correct. |
| 17:27.55 | Tekkub | wow, there's only like one thing that needs tweaked in my mods for 1.12 (addon comm not included) |
| 17:28.21 | Tekkub | NameToggleFu need to support the "new V key" shit |
| 17:28.51 | Tekkub | AceModuleCore is rally simpl, Rophy |
| 17:29.13 | Tekkub | you're basically making new AceAddons, just that a few things are tied into the parent mod |
| 17:29.18 | Tekkub | like toggleing active |
| 17:29.23 | Rophy | hmm |
| 17:29.28 | Tekkub | and you can define a prototype for the modules |
| 17:29.38 | Tekkub | and you can give them a "namespace" in the core's DB |
| 17:29.48 | Tekkub | that's basically the meat of it |
| 17:29.54 | Rophy | how does that prototype and namespace work? |
| 17:30.08 | Tekkub | prototype is propigated to all new modules |
| 17:30.09 | Rophy | I guess that's not easy to answer in a few sentences? |
| 17:30.14 | Rophy | hmm hmm |
| 17:30.25 | Tekkub | like in BigWigs the "GenereicDeath" method and some default sellitng |
| 17:30.39 | Tekkub | settings... |
| 17:30.45 | Rophy | each module will have a 'separate instance' of the prototype? |
| 17:31.03 | Tekkub | for example... BigWigs.modulePrototype.core = BigWigs |
| 17:31.03 | Tekkub | BigWigs.modulePrototype.debugFrame = ChatFrame5 |
| 17:31.03 | Tekkub | BigWigs.modulePrototype.revision = 1 -- To be overridden by the module! |
| 17:31.18 | Tekkub | yes, it copies the stuff into the new module |
| 17:31.35 | Tekkub | but it's not a deep copy |
| 17:31.51 | Tekkub | so if you put a table in, all modules will get a ref to that table |
| 17:31.52 | tigg | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.54 | Tekkub | same with functions |
| 17:32.05 | Rophy | hmm.... |
| 17:32.21 | Tekkub | tigg, I think half the issue with your diff was that it was pasted to WoWI not inside code tags |
| 17:32.36 | tigg | ah, ok |
| 17:32.45 | Rophy | so what are the differences for.... |
| 17:32.47 | hyperChipmunk | geesh O_o |
| 17:32.51 | Tekkub | other half was that missing header... every unidiff I looked at online had a line like this... |
| 17:32.59 | Rophy | MyAddon.modulePrototype.DoSomething =function() end |
| 17:33.01 | Tekkub | Index: C:/Program Files (x86)/World of Warcraft/Interface/AddOns/BigWigs/Other/Onyxia.lua |
| 17:33.01 | Tekkub | =================================================================== |
| 17:33.01 | Tekkub | --- C:/Program Files (x86)/World of Warcraft/Interface/AddOns/BigWigs/Other/Onyxia.lua(revision 8019) |
| 17:33.01 | Tekkub | +++ C:/Program Files (x86)/World of Warcraft/Interface/AddOns/BigWigs/Other/Onyxia.lua(working copy) |
| 17:33.02 | Tekkub | @@ -5,6 +5,7 @@ |
| 17:33.04 | tigg | I am not very expierienced with webboards ;) |
| 17:33.09 | Rophy | and function MyAddon:DoSomething() end ? |
| 17:33.26 | Tekkub | FlySpray the diff next time, or if you can't manage that, email |
| 17:33.37 | Tekkub | yes Rophy |
| 17:33.44 | Rophy | Will the modules get a reference to function() MyAddon:DoSomething() ? |
| 17:33.50 | Tekkub | but don't get .method() and :method() confused |
| 17:33.53 | tigg | k |
| 17:33.58 | phyber | anyone know what CallHook would be in the new AceHook-2.0 ? |
| 17:34.07 | Tekkub | Rophy.... |
| 17:34.07 | Tekkub | function BigWigs.modulePrototype:IsBossModule() |
| 17:34.07 | Tekkub | return self.zonename and self.enabletrigger and true |
| 17:34.08 | Tekkub | end |
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| 17:34.28 | Tekkub | "self" is relative to the calling module, but they all get a copy of the same function |
| 17:34.35 | Rophy | eh huh |
| 17:34.37 | Tekkub | it's not a new function for each module |
| 17:35.04 | Rophy | and what will be the differences if i make it function BigWigs:IsBossModule() ? |
| 17:35.13 | Rophy | can a module get the reference to it? |
| 17:35.22 | Tekkub | that's in the core, not the prototype |
| 17:35.31 | coalado | Class.prototype.method sounds like flash ... |
| 17:35.32 | Rophy | so the module will not be able to access it? |
| 17:36.01 | Tekkub | it can access it, but it's not added into the module, and since it's in BigWigs then the "self" is not gonna be the module |
| 17:36.32 | Tekkub | if the module did.... self.IsBossModule = BigWigs.IsBossModule |
| 17:36.38 | Rophy | so the main differences is the 'self', which the prototyes will point to the module, and the other one will point to core? |
| 17:36.45 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8702 10BattleChat/BattleChat.lua: |
| 17:36.45 | CIA-11 | BattleChat: |
| 17:36.46 | CIA-11 | - Fontsize reduced to 11. Looks better this way imo |
| 17:36.53 | Tekkub | well then yes self is valid.. but that's what the prototype is doing for you automatically in the first place |
| 17:37.11 | Rophy | I think I understand the idea now. |
| 17:37.11 | Tekkub | self all depends on how it's called |
| 17:37.47 | Rophy | So the core can decide what data is static between modules and what not. |
| 17:37.59 | Tekkub | uh |
| 17:37.59 | Rophy | prototype is something like declaring it non-static. |
| 17:38.15 | Tekkub | prototype is basically just a constructor |
| 17:38.31 | Tekkub | when you make a new module, the shit in the prototype is copied in |
| 17:39.26 | Rophy | I mean like the 'static' in Java, if I declare something static, then all instances of that class (modules) will acces to the same variable. |
| 17:39.44 | wereHamster | What does BattleChat? |
| 17:39.47 | Tekkub | oh, lua's not that complex |
| 17:39.51 | Rophy | If it's non-static, then all instances have their own instance of the data. |
| 17:40.04 | Tekkub | functions and tables are passed by ref, so it's kinda static I guess |
| 17:40.04 | Rophy | Just trying to make a relative example on the ideas :p |
| 17:40.19 | Rophy | I know it' not actually 'static' and 'dynamic' |
| 17:40.24 | Rophy | just can't think of a better example p |
| 17:40.31 | Tekkub | yea.... |
| 17:40.38 | Tekkub | lua ~= java :P |
| 17:40.49 | Rophy | Another question, so if I have MyAddon and MyAddonModule |
| 17:40.54 | Tekkub | ModuleCore doesn't do a deep copy |
| 17:41.03 | Tekkub | that's how you need to look at it :) |
| 17:41.04 | Rophy | MyAddonModule:OnInitialize() wil get called after MyAddon:OnInitialize() right? |
| 17:41.12 | Tekkub | yes |
| 17:41.25 | Rophy | cool, this is what I want then :) |
| 17:41.39 | Tekkub | you'll probably iter over the modules and do whatever you need in the core's OnInit |
| 17:41.47 | Tekkub | before the modules do their init |
| 17:42.04 | Rophy | basically I want to add a module to 'insert' something to the core. |
| 17:42.12 | Tekkub | shit like give them a DB namespace and toggle off modules that shouldn't have their OnEnable called on load |
| 17:42.18 | Rophy | I want to do that in the module's OnInitialize() |
| 17:42.25 | Tekkub | BigWigs.modulePrototype.core = BigWigs |
| 17:42.33 | Tekkub | handies piece of code ever |
| 17:43.10 | Tekkub | somemodule:OnInitialize() self.core.whatever = "You suck" end |
| 17:43.22 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 17:43.55 | Rophy | hmm |
| 17:44.10 | Rophy | hold on a sec |
| 17:44.23 | Rophy | http://ace.pastey.net/360 |
| 17:44.31 | Rophy | I want to do this |
| 17:44.38 | Rophy | Is that the correct way? |
| 17:45.04 | Tekkub | yea |
| 17:45.07 | Rophy | Or I must declare a modulePrototype.core ? |
| 17:45.16 | Tekkub | you don't have to declare the data in the core's onint tho |
| 17:45.25 | Rophy | so the self.data in MyAddonModule will be referenced to MyAddon.data, right? |
| 17:45.25 | wereHamster | doe anyone still work on PerfectRaid? |
| 17:45.26 | Tekkub | MyAddon.data = {} |
| 17:45.34 | Tekkub | right after the AceLibrary call |
| 17:46.02 | Tekkub | er,,, wait Rophy... |
| 17:46.37 | Rophy | hmm? |
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| 17:47.16 | hyperChipmunk | wereHamster: pr2 is branched |
| 17:47.24 | hyperChipmunk | clad's working on it |
| 17:47.30 | Tekkub | http://ace.pastey.net/361 |
| 17:47.34 | Tekkub | that's how I'd do it |
| 17:48.02 | Tekkub | ... s/MyAddonModule.modulePrototype/MyAddon.modulePrototype/ |
| 17:48.11 | wereHamster | any plans on merging it to trunk? |
| 17:48.17 | Rophy | I understand that should work, but must I add a modulePrototype.core = self ? |
| 17:48.40 | hyperChipmunk | when it's usable, I reckon it will be |
| 17:48.51 | wereHamster | what's it missing>? |
| 17:48.59 | wereHamster | the branched version? |
| 17:49.00 | Tekkub | you don't "have" to, but it's the simplest route to access the core |
| 17:49.01 | hyperChipmunk | I duno; you'll have to talk to clad |
| 17:49.12 | hyperChipmunk | he indicated that it was currently gutted |
| 17:49.15 | Tekkub | else you're calling the global for core, it'll be slower |
| 17:49.35 | Rophy | 'calling the global'? |
| 17:49.55 | Tekkub | function MyAddonModule:OnInitialize() |
| 17:49.55 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.55 | Tekkub | end |
| 17:49.58 | Tekkub | slower! |
| 17:50.17 | Rophy | I'm not sure I understand why is that slower than self.core.data ? |
| 17:50.47 | Tekkub | because self is passed to the function, it's a local there so it's faster than a global |
| 17:51.17 | Tekkub | someone teach him about self and crap for me :P |
| 17:51.22 | Rophy | nono |
| 17:51.27 | Rophy | but I am doing self.data.addedData = 123 |
| 17:51.33 | Rophy | not MyAddon.data.addedData = 123 |
| 17:51.46 | Tekkub | self.data == nil in your code |
| 17:52.12 | Rophy | ok, so the reference of MyAddon.data will NOT exist in MyAddonModule? |
| 17:52.28 | Rophy | unless I declare MyAddon.modulePrototype.data = self.data |
| 17:52.35 | Tekkub | the only shit that exists in modules is what you put in the prototype |
| 17:52.40 | FISKER_Q | anyone got a macro for shield if not shielded, flash heal if shielded? |
| 17:52.41 | Tekkub | you didn't put anything in the prototype |
| 17:52.57 | Rophy | But you just said MyAddon.Function will exist in module too? |
| 17:53.22 | Tekkub | MyAddon.lunction is calling a global |
| 17:53.31 | Amadeo | damn |
| 17:53.32 | Amadeo | I'm a genius |
| 17:53.45 | Amadeo | downtime extended |
| 17:53.46 | Rophy | I mean.... MyAddon.Function, then calling MyAddonModule.Function to access it. |
| 17:53.59 | Rophy | so I think we have some big misunderstanding :p |
| 17:54.04 | Tekkub | not if you don't put it in the protoype |
| 17:54.15 | Rophy | ok so I understand everything now : |
| 17:54.16 | Mikma | LOL wtf :D |
| 17:54.19 | Rophy | :p |
| 17:54.20 | Mikma | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-2774-1-bongos.html |
| 17:54.26 | Mikma | * Altered the UI for moving bars around a bit. It now looks similar to Bartender. |
| 17:54.29 | Mikma | lol |
| 17:54.37 | Tekkub | nothing is added to modules except what's in the prototype |
| 17:54.49 | Rophy | I thought you meant module is like a mixing of core. |
| 17:55.06 | Rophy | so if I do MyAddon.Func, then call MyAddonModule.Func, then 'self' will be MyAddon. |
| 17:55.15 | Tekkub | no, core can mix crap in, but it doesn't do nothin you don't tell it to |
| 17:55.27 | Rophy | and if I do MyAddon.modulePrototype.Func, then call MyAddonModule.Func, th 'self' will be MyAddonModule. |
| 17:55.28 | Tekkub | module core adds the crap to toggle module's active-ness |
| 17:55.37 | Tekkub | and it'll disable all modules if the core is disabled |
| 17:56.01 | Tekkub | ugh, you're confusing yourself with the self shit |
| 17:56.03 | Rophy | so I think I misunderstood what you said from the very beginning :p |
| 17:56.06 | Tekkub | and the . vs : shit |
| 17:56.18 | Rophy | I know the difference between . and : |
| 17:56.33 | Rophy | I was thnking about the AceOO mixing |
| 17:56.34 | Zeryl | is anyon'e realm up yet that could quickly help me |
| 17:56.54 | Tekkub | "and if I do MyAddon.modulePrototype.Func, then call MyAddonModule.Func, th 'self' will be MyAddonModule." you used ., there is no 'self' |
| 17:58.02 | Rophy | I know about . and : , just trying to make quick examples |
| 17:58.04 | Rophy | Anyway I think know exactly what you mean now :p |
| 17:58.05 | _icetrain | MyAddon.modulePrototype:Func() is callable with self:Func() in MyAddonModule |
| 17:58.06 | Tekkub | no realms are up Z |
| 17:58.24 | Tekkub | okey, as long as you think you know it |
| 17:58.35 | Kebinusan | Tekkub, what did you expect, 11am blizzard time is like 12pm |
| 17:58.35 | Rophy | Hopefully :p |
| 17:58.37 | Tekkub | if you don't then you'll fail miserably :) |
| 17:59.03 | Tekkub | Keb, I don't expect anything on patch days. Z's the one thinking that some people are up already |
| 17:59.18 | Kebinusan | oh missed that |
| 17:59.22 | CIA-11 | 03phyber 07phyber * r8703 10FuBar_MoneyFu/ (FuBar_MoneyFu.toc MoneyFu.lua): |
| 17:59.22 | CIA-11 | MoneyFu: |
| 17:59.22 | CIA-11 | - Added X-Category to .toc |
| 17:59.22 | CIA-11 | - Removed some commented out code. |
| 17:59.22 | CIA-11 | - Commented out the CoinPickupFrame stuff, since it uses self:CallHook() and I don't know what the new version of that function is called. |
| 18:00.27 | Zeryl | lol, I was hoping they might actually make their 11am time ;) |
| 18:00.49 | Zeryl | i was just told last night that we have a problem w/ a mod, and need to fix it as early as we can :( |
| 18:01.34 | Zeryl | and of course, it isn't in iriel's list of changes |
| 18:01.41 | Tekkub | kek |
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| 18:02.05 | Rophy | Tekkub, just to make sure I understand it, so if I don't declare any modulePrototype in the core, then the module table will not contain any reference to the things in core, right? |
| 18:02.06 | Mikma | i jsut have to test bongos now |
| 18:02.14 | Mikma | just to see what has he done ;D |
| 18:02.39 | Tekkub | yes |
| 18:03.03 | Rophy | ok thanks for explaining it so clearly :) |
| 18:04.17 | Rophy | actually all I need is to make sure addon2:OnInitialize() get called after addon1:OnInitialize() |
| 18:04.40 | Rophy | dunno if it's worth the effort to add AceModuleCore as another dependency just for that. |
| 18:08.17 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r8704 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: |
| 18:08.17 | CIA-11 | XPBarNone: |
| 18:08.18 | CIA-11 | - Rested XP Percentage display works nicely. |
| 18:08.18 | CIA-11 | - Added a space before the rested XP. |
| 18:12.51 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r8705 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesLocals.lua): sRaidFrames: Add option to set spacing between each frame |
| 18:13.55 | Cairenn | additional 2 hr downtime, btw |
| 18:14.17 | eternally777 | does table.insert work even for tables without numerical indices? |
| 18:15.03 | eternally777 | nvm |
| 18:15.07 | eternally777 | I figured it out. |
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| 18:16.32 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r8706 10FuBar_NameToggleFu/ (FuBar_NameToggleFu.toc Libs/): |
| 18:16.32 | CIA-11 | NameToggleFu: |
| 18:16.32 | CIA-11 | - Updated .toc |
| 18:16.32 | CIA-11 | - Added missing AceAddon-2.0 external. |
| 18:19.06 | Kebinusan | well 7 realms are up |
| 18:19.23 | Kebinusan | 241 to go! |
| 18:30.28 | Codayus | ....mine is one of them. |
| 18:30.29 | Codayus | Scary. |
| 18:30.29 | Codayus | Since it's usually prominent in any list of problems. :-) |
| 18:30.29 | Firedancer | weird. my realm is up yet there is a login msg stating that the servers are gonna be down til 1pm PDT lol |
| 18:30.32 | Kebinusan | only some realms were supposed to be down till 1 |
| 18:30.33 | Kebinusan | the lucky bastards getting hardware upgrades or somethin |
| 18:30.33 | Azurewrath | pdt? I hate timezones.. they're so.. outdated |
| 18:30.33 | Codayus | Kebinusan: Naa, they updated that. |
| 18:30.33 | Codayus | All realms are down til 1pm now. |
| 18:30.40 | Codayus | According to their current message. |
| 18:30.50 | Codayus | Oh, yeah, load out od date addons. |
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| 18:31.01 | Codayus | That gets me every time. *mutter* |
| 18:31.01 | Kebinusan | bleh I hate blizzard |
| 18:31.01 | Firedancer | i'm logged into my realm tho :P |
| 18:31.02 | Zeryl | Codayus: can you check UnitSex and see what it returns in 1.12? |
| 18:31.02 | Tekkub | tigg... this is what a diff should look like from what I've seen... |
| 18:31.02 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?getfile=14 |
| 18:31.03 | Codayus | Sure |
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| 18:31.07 | Zeryl | thank you, unless the PTR's were screwed up, it changed |
| 18:31.08 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r8707 10BigWigs/AQ20/ (Buru.lua GeneralRajaxx.lua Guardians.lua Ossirian.lua): |
| 18:31.08 | CIA-11 | BigWigs |
| 18:31.08 | CIA-11 | - Applied diff from filion for AQ20 deDE stuff |
| 18:31.11 | CIA-11 | - Closes: #215 --- http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=215 |
| 18:31.18 | yacoob | Tekkub: there are various types of diffs |
| 18:31.23 | yacoob | mainly, contextual and noncontextual |
| 18:31.25 | Tekkub | diffs that tort won't bitch about |
| 18:31.25 | tigg | Tekkub: mmh, then I just need to find out how to do this with gnu diff ;) |
| 18:33.10 | Tekkub | the key is that index line |
| 18:33.10 | Tekkub | the other error I got wase because the copy into WoWI stripped whitespaces |
| 18:33.11 | yacoob | tigg: diff -Naru |
| 18:33.11 | Codayus | Zeryl: What did you want to know? |
| 18:33.11 | tigg | yacoob: thanx |
| 18:33.11 | yacoob | (meme, eh? :) |
| 18:33.11 | Zeryl | return on male/female |
| 18:33.11 | Codayus | Male is 2, female 3 |
| 18:33.11 | Codayus | It appears |
| 18:33.11 | yacoob | tigg: off my head, so you'd better test it, but it should be contextual, and human readable :) |
| 18:33.12 | Codayus | zomg, some addons are going nuts |
| 18:33.12 | Zeryl | ok, thanks, maybe the PTR's were just wrong then |
| 18:33.12 | tigg | yacoob: yep, Nr does the index line |
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| 18:33.12 | Codayus | What were you expecitng? |
| 18:33.12 | yacoob | Sigh. I must get used to OneBag. I must get used to OneBag. I must get used to OneBag... |
| 18:33.13 | tigg | mmh, I need a workspace under windows... yesterday I copied those files to a linux box to do this diff ;) |
| 18:33.13 | Zeryl | I'm not sure, was told tha gender was being returned wrong on the test realms, I wasn't sure if they shifted the numbers, changed to male/female/unknown or what |
| 18:33.13 | Codayus | ah |
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| 18:33.59 | phyber | fucking gimps. grats for not attacking whelps. |
| 18:34.01 | phyber | ~moredots |
| 18:34.03 | purl | You lose fifty DKP again, because you didn't know what he f*ck to do! |
| 18:34.10 | phyber | purl: exactly! |
| 18:34.11 | purl | solomon: =) |
| 18:34.42 | Zeryl | thanks for checking Codayus |
| 18:37.58 | tigg | ah, nice... AQ 20 fixed :) |
| 18:38.44 | yacoob | now, time for fubar. |
| 18:43.05 | Makk_ | can oCD be moved now? |
| 18:44.36 | kloppe | yes |
| 18:45.38 | Makk_ | oh, cool |
| 18:45.40 | Makk_ | *get* |
| 18:46.29 | Makk_ | 20:34:45 < purl> You lose fifty DKP again, because you didn't know what he f*ck to do! |
| 18:46.32 | Makk_ | wrong! |
| 18:46.35 | Makk_ | you need doooooo! |
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| 18:51.14 | Kebinusan | Thunderclap: This ability was left at 10% despite the haste effect changes. This means its potency has been reduced slightly. |
| 18:51.21 | Kebinusan | another warrior nerf |
| 18:51.35 | Amadeo | yeah, hilarious |
| 18:51.40 | Amadeo | as if Thunderclap were overpowered |
| 18:51.42 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 18:51.44 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r8708 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Don't call GameTooltip:Show() when calling GameTooltip:Set*() |
| 18:52.00 | Amadeo | "God! Warriors keep owning me, all they do is spam Thunderclap!" |
| 18:52.18 | Kebinusan | well its sort of a thunderfury buff if you read it right heh |
| 18:52.35 | Saroz | lol |
| 18:52.36 | haste | Thunderclap + PvE = Win |
| 18:52.48 | haste | if you don't have Thunderfury |
| 18:53.02 | Makk_ | Saroz: aaah, that's why youre in the raid :P |
| 18:53.09 | Saroz | ye |
| 18:53.18 | Saroz | can't get GameTooltip:SetUnit to work |
| 18:53.19 | Saroz | grrr |
| 18:55.29 | Kebinusan | * A soul shard will be refunded to the caster any time a summoned pet despawns rather than dies. |
| 18:55.42 | Kebinusan | only took them... Beta and 12 patches but hey |
| 18:55.50 | FISKER_Q | omfg |
| 18:55.52 | FISKER_Q | we killed huhuran |
| 18:55.57 | Kebinusan | grats |
| 18:56.01 | yacoob | hm. |
| 18:56.09 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if that means i get free shards for dying in battlegrounds |
| 18:56.12 | yacoob | With fubar, is it possible to set transparency per panel, or only globally? |
| 18:56.56 | dreadlyone | its global |
| 18:56.58 | Makk_ | haste: oCD is niiice |
| 18:57.00 | Makk_ | gj |
| 18:57.02 | dreadlyone | i believe |
| 18:57.58 | yacoob | dreadlyone: it surely behaves like that, but perhaps I'm missing Some Secret Setting :) |
| 18:58.03 | yacoob | nevermind, will DFM it. |
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| 19:08.54 | Amadeo | hm, out of curiosity |
| 19:08.58 | Amadeo | there are Damage Meters |
| 19:08.59 | wereHamster | Does svn.wowace.com have an addon that automatically cancels buffs like BoS etc? |
| 19:09.01 | Amadeo | are there Healing Meters? |
| 19:10.18 | Firedancer | thiana, if you're around: current FuBar_tcgTradeskills has a typo on line 34 (AceLocal-2.0 instead of AceLocale-2.0) and once that is fixed it errors on line 36 with "FuBar_tcgTradeskills\\Core.lua:36: AceAddon: AceOO-2.0: Library \"AceDebug-2.0\" does not exist.". This error keeps the plugin from loading, so I reverted to rev7323 and that one works. |
| 19:11.04 | wereHamster | and as I've heard the number of free buff slots isn't reported correctly, I'd write an addon that would cancel less important buffs if "buff count == max buffs - 1".. would that be possible? |
| 19:12.38 | Amadeo | bah |
| 19:12.44 | Amadeo | I saw a yatlas update and thought it would be big |
| 19:16.03 | dreadlyone | damage meters also has healing meters so no need for a seperate addon. |
| 19:16.57 | Amadeo | oh ok |
| 19:17.56 | Firedancer | i hope oRA is made compat (or is confirmed compat) for 1.12 before my raid tonight. I hate CTRA >_< |
| 19:18.32 | Tekkub | CTRA "need" is overhyped |
| 19:18.40 | Tekkub | people are too damn dependant on mods |
| 19:18.48 | Firedancer | i agree |
| 19:19.01 | Tekkub | what is "needed" in a raid.... ready check |
| 19:19.03 | Jagobah | haha |
| 19:19.09 | Tekkub | what is "nice", all that other shit |
| 19:19.13 | CIA-11 | 03werehamster * r8709 10coolDown/: Share project 'coolDown' into 'http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/coolDown' |
| 19:19.48 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r8710 10Squishy/ (Squishy.toc libs/): Squishy: adding Babble-Spell, as I'm having strange problems in 1.12 with locals. |
| 19:20.50 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r8711 10Cockpit/ (. Cockpit.toc Core.lua): |
| 19:20.50 | CIA-11 | Cockpit - Initial Submission |
| 19:20.50 | CIA-11 | - Mod to change camera views when in flight |
| 19:20.50 | CIA-11 | - Drycoded during patch downdowntime... I know the logic works, but the addon probably is full of types and crap... |
| 19:21.30 | Arrowmaster | you mispelled typo |
| 19:21.34 | yacoob | Tekkub: true. But then again, without all that helpers most boss encounters would turn into herd of headless chickens running around :) |
| 19:21.40 | Firedancer | i don't like the fact that everyone think it is required either. But I'd rather have oRA running than listen to the RLs bitch about ppl not having CTRA. CTRA takes up like an extra 5MiB just loaded without doing anything. I <3 oRA :D |
| 19:21.53 | CIA-11 | 03werehamster * r8712 10coolDown/ (16 files in 5 dirs): |
| 19:21.53 | CIA-11 | coolDown: |
| 19:21.53 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.24 | yacoob | When we're at it: one needs oRA + BigWigs + ...? |
| 19:22.26 | Tekkub | well the issue is that CTRA is the only raid mod standard |
| 19:22.45 | Tekkub | people need to get off the compilation kick there and begin thinking in terms of modules |
| 19:22.53 | Jagobah | hehe |
| 19:22.57 | Tekkub | hopefully CTRA2 will help break that thought pattern |
| 19:23.10 | hyperChipmunk | from bongos lastst changelog: # Altered the UI for moving bars around a bit. It now looks similar to Bartender. |
| 19:23.14 | FtH|eagle | need ctra2 spoiler! |
| 19:23.28 | Firedancer | yeah...when I saw their post about recoding CTRA completely I was hoping that it would be modular |
| 19:23.35 | Tekkub | my guild would "require" the dura/item/resists and probably ready check if CTRA doesn't force people into the blizzy check |
| 19:23.53 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: Ouch |
| 19:23.55 | Firedancer | so that raid leaders could enable all the crap they need and the end user can only enable what they want ;p |
| 19:23.58 | Tekkub | I hope CTRA gets rid of the raidsay shit already |
| 19:24.06 | Tekkub | keep /rs, but make it just use /rw |
| 19:24.20 | Arrowmaster | the builtin blizard check sucks, i hope they never switch it to the builtin one |
| 19:24.25 | Firedancer | I like the new way of moving bongo bars |
| 19:24.33 | Tekkub | the builtin needs enhanced slightly |
| 19:24.34 | Tekkub | :P |
| 19:24.53 | Tekkub | fire an event every time a member votes, so you can track votes |
| 19:24.58 | Tekkub | and fire it for everyone |
| 19:25.08 | Tekkub | and make starting a check be any officer |
| 19:25.09 | Arrowmaster | and let assists use it |
| 19:25.17 | Tekkub | that's all it needs |
| 19:26.43 | Worf | i agree |
| 19:26.48 | yacoob | hm... is there a working mail plugin for fubar? |
| 19:28.48 | wereHamster | if anyone feels like creating an configuration UI for coolDown, feel free to do it |
| 19:31.12 | Kebinusan | the mail one works |
| 19:31.27 | Kebinusan | just get fubar-compat-1.2 or whatever its called if you're checking things out of the svn |
| 19:33.05 | CIA-11 | 03andalia 07andalia * r8713 10Teknicolor_tab/Core.lua: |
| 19:33.05 | CIA-11 | Teknicolor_tab (branch): |
| 19:33.05 | CIA-11 | Bugfix when there is no matching nick. |
| 19:33.05 | CIA-11 | This bug only existed in my branch. |
| 19:33.28 | Saroz | CT_RaidAssist 2? wth |
| 19:33.45 | yacoob | Kebinusan: I'm still "leeching" various plugins, and I'll test it in one batch. |
| 19:34.25 | yacoob | Wonder whether this one displays type of mail in the tooltip (outbid/won/sold) |
| 19:35.01 | haste | wereHamster: Shag's coolDown? |
| 19:36.00 | wereHamster | yep |
| 19:36.33 | wereHamster | or wereHamster's coolDown, both is the same |
| 19:36.53 | FtH|eagle | is Thalinon somewhere in an irc chan? |
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| 19:41.48 | Health | Are us servers stable? |
| 19:41.59 | Health | or can we in eu wait a week of downtime? :P |
| 19:42.08 | yacoob | bah. Released zips with .svn dirs :/ |
| 19:42.15 | tigg | Health: downtime ;) |
| 19:42.22 | maia | I havent crashed with my lvl3 in darnassus in the past hour |
| 19:42.31 | tigg | more daily disconnects ;) |
| 19:43.07 | Tekkub | woah... wait a second... |
| 19:43.13 | Tekkub | I just got a sound from WoW |
| 19:43.19 | Tekkub | it was not in focus... |
| 19:44.53 | Tekkub | hrm... ood |
| 19:44.56 | Tekkub | nevermind |
| 19:47.18 | Health | oh.. still downtime? |
| 19:47.24 | Codayus | Does anyone else play in windowed full screen mode? |
| 19:47.28 | Industrial | wooah wowace.com just got slow |
| 19:47.30 | dreyruugr | I do |
| 19:47.52 | Codayus | Anyone else having odd problems with it in 1.12? |
| 19:49.07 | maia | Codayus: yes, me |
| 19:49.34 | Codayus | It's like it's...caching a frame, which is displayed when you tab out? |
| 19:49.43 | maia | Codayus: a table with locals wasn't recognized inside a if GetLocale() = ... |
| 19:50.01 | wereHamster | Codayus, me, but WoW doesn't know it's windowed, it thinks it's fullscreen ^^ |
| 19:50.09 | *** join/#wowace Andalia_ (n=xx@p54AD8067.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:50.26 | Codayus | maia: Hmm, I noticed the latest revision of Squishy didn't work. Couldn't work out exactly why. |
| 19:50.29 | Codayus | wereHamster: Oh? |
| 19:51.01 | Industrial | wereHamster, wmii? :p |
| 19:51.13 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r8714 10Squishy/ (6 files): Squishy: using Babble-Spell for spells (which also fixes a problem in 1.12) |
| 19:51.14 | maia | Codayus: |
| 19:51.18 | maia | use this one |
| 19:51.19 | wereHamster | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.28 | Tekkub | wewt, cockpit works! |
| 19:51.33 | maia | well, I hope it works. I havent been in combat yet. |
| 19:51.36 | Codayus | wereHamster: Blah. |
| 19:51.42 | maia | cockpit? |
| 19:52.10 | maia | Codayus: what kind of problems are you having with Squishy in 1.12? |
| 19:52.32 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.34 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 19:52.36 | Codayus | maia: None, apart from noticing that the locale wasn't being loaded correctly. |
| 19:52.39 | dreyruugr | boy... the maintainence just keeps going... |
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| 19:52.57 | wereHamster | are the US servers up already? |
| 19:53.04 | Amadeo | a few |
| 19:53.06 | Tekkub | I can't access the interface control panel! |
| 19:53.07 | Tekkub | :) |
| 19:53.07 | Codayus | I'm having some annoying graphics glitches with full screen windows mode, but I don't think that's an addons fault. :-) |
| 19:53.17 | maia | Codayus: yeah, thats a very strange problem. which is why I replaced the locals. weird. |
| 19:53.32 | snurre | wts doing bwl in 2h45min when only 5 items were *not* disenchanted |
| 19:53.49 | maia | ~cockpit |
| 19:54.13 | maia | wtb raid group that can get past razorgore |
| 19:54.23 | Codayus | Ouch |
| 19:54.29 | Saroz | tsk |
| 19:54.30 | Codayus | How long have you been stuck on him? |
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| 19:55.18 | maia | Codayus: a few weeks. but with my former group we were able to kill him easily. just that since mobs now kill the earthbind totems, we can't find a good horde strategy that doesnt require everyone in full tier1 for high dps |
| 19:55.34 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 19:55.34 | Sinaloit | is BigWigs going to .toc update or waiting until the patch finishes in EU 1st? |
| 19:55.52 | Tekkub | fuck toc numbers |
| 19:55.52 | Codayus | <- Alliance, so don't have earthbind. |
| 19:56.04 | hyperChipmunk | use the alliance strategy? it doesn't rely on any faction-specific techniques |
| 19:56.23 | Sinaloit | Why tekkub? |
| 19:56.26 | maia | Codayus: the dps method doesnt work - and the CC method either. and we can't use razor to ae aggro because we don't have that pally spell (divine intervention?) |
| 19:56.27 | Tekkub | wow, interface panel's all fancy shit now |
| 19:56.35 | Codayus | .... |
| 19:56.36 | Amadeo | yeah, it sucks |
| 19:56.38 | Tekkub | cause TOC version is useless? |
| 19:56.38 | Amadeo | takes up the whole screen |
| 19:56.44 | Saroz | .... |
| 19:56.46 | dreyruugr | Codayus: No issues here in FS/Windowed |
| 19:56.49 | Codayus | We use razor to gain aggro, but we don't DI. |
| 19:56.50 | hyperChipmunk | you can DI razorgore? |
| 19:56.51 | Saroz | wtf DI on razorgore? go die |
| 19:56.53 | maia | hyperChipmunk: afaik the ally method is using DI? |
| 19:56.59 | Saroz | lol |
| 19:57.01 | Codayus | Oh wait |
| 19:57.02 | hyperChipmunk | you'd disable him for 3 minutes |
| 19:57.05 | Codayus | Heh, you don't mean DI |
| 19:57.09 | Codayus | Blessing of Protection? |
| 19:57.10 | maia | probably not |
| 19:57.11 | hyperChipmunk | that would mean certain death |
| 19:57.13 | Codayus | We don't do that either. |
| 19:57.15 | maia | the reversing of aggro spell? |
| 19:57.20 | Saroz | wha? |
| 19:57.26 | Saroz | silly horde |
| 19:57.30 | Codayus | Just...AE nuke the room, drop MC, and kite... |
| 19:57.35 | Saroz | ye |
| 19:57.47 | hyperChipmunk | there's a 6-second invulnerability, but it only drops agro until it wears off; but I've never seen it used on razorgore |
| 19:57.47 | maia | theres a pally spell that will reduce/reverse aggro when put on someone. just like the old priest brainwash in beta, right? |
| 19:57.48 | Saroz | have a warrior take razor and aoe |
| 19:57.49 | Saroz | and kite |
| 19:57.53 | hyperChipmunk | paladins are just healers in that fight |
| 19:57.57 | Saroz | maia, no such thing |
| 19:58.06 | Tekkub | spam filter? |
| 19:58.13 | Codayus | maia: Sorta, kinda. I think some guilds use it on razor, but I can't think why. |
| 19:58.17 | hyperChipmunk | maia: divine intervention does that |
| 19:58.26 | hyperChipmunk | but it also incapacitates you for 3 minutes |
| 19:58.31 | maia | okay, so whats the strategy? warrior control razor, rest kills mages and kites the rest? |
| 19:58.31 | Saroz | divine intervention puts you out of combat |
| 19:58.37 | Saroz | yes |
| 19:58.40 | Saroz | listen |
| 19:59.47 | maia | I am :) |
| 19:59.48 | hyperChipmunk | warriors kite orcs, hunters dragons, everyone else kill stoof |
| 19:59.48 | Saroz | hunter first, then warrior, have warrior aoe, kite the shit.. hunter retake.. break eggs.. break more eggs... |
| 19:59.48 | Saroz | and have a warrior take the last egg down |
| 19:59.48 | Saroz | MC gives huge aggro on razor |
| 19:59.48 | maia | slowly please. lets start with the first 3 eggs ;) |
| 19:59.48 | Saroz | I've tanked him a few times without problems (pally) |
| 19:59.48 | Codayus | Kill mages, kite everything else. Warrior MCs razor, volleys, drops MC, and *runs*. Voila, he's now kiting the whole damn room. You can play with how you do it...one train, two trains, hunters, warriors... |
| 19:59.51 | Saroz | ye |
| 19:59.58 | Saroz | what he said |
| 20:00.03 | maia | who controls the orb? are kins sleeped? 4 corner groups or 2 big groups? tanks kite using the platforms or keep platforms free? |
| 20:00.10 | Saroz | we have a hunter do the first MC |
| 20:00.18 | Saroz | then warr takes over when there is many mobs and drops and AOE |
| 20:00.28 | Saroz | you can sleep dragons with razorgore |
| 20:00.33 | Amadeo | my friend said they have 64 active WSG's going on their server |
| 20:00.33 | Saroz | and druids can sleep them aswell |
| 20:00.33 | Amadeo | hahahaha |
| 20:00.37 | hyperChipmunk | honestly, we jsut stick a warrior we just stick one warrior on it the whole time and kite everything |
| 20:00.41 | maia | how often do you drop MC to aggro the whole room, and how much later will someone else use the orb? |
| 20:00.47 | Saroz | 1 time |
| 20:00.54 | Saroz | maybe 2 if we have the warriors |
| 20:00.54 | phyber | given that ckknight wanted some people to take FuBar mods off his hands, shall I just go ahead and stick my updated BagFu and MoneyFu in trunk while he isn't here? |
| 20:01.24 | Tekkub | I doubt he'd have issue with that |
| 20:01.27 | Codayus | OUr strat is to only use warriors, but we never have enough, so we usually use a rogue or hunter or something in the middle. We used a priest once as the last controller...it worked... |
| 20:01.29 | hyperChipmunk | knock yourself out |
| 20:01.38 | maia | hmm. so all healers spam heals on the tank once he aggros the room? |
| 20:01.41 | Saroz | maia, have a hunter and 2 warriors stand by the orb, doing NOTHING else.. have the hunter just doing normal egg breaking, when you get too many spawns, let warrior take the MC and pop the AOE |
| 20:01.43 | Saroz | and kite |
| 20:01.45 | Tekkub | lesse... what's the blizzy SCT frame name... |
| 20:01.47 | CIA-11 | 03phyber 07phyber * r8715 10FuBar_MoneyFu/MoneyFu.lua: |
| 20:01.47 | CIA-11 | MoneyFu: |
| 20:01.47 | CIA-11 | - Fixed Char Specific Money Flow option not reporting correctly. |
| 20:01.52 | Saroz | nah, kite = don't take damage |
| 20:01.54 | hyperChipmunk | FloatingCombatText or something |
| 20:01.58 | Saroz | but a few heals ofc |
| 20:02.05 | Codayus | maia: No. The kiter needs to be smart and use geometry and positoning to not take much damage |
| 20:02.12 | Codayus | Shield is good...very light heals |
| 20:02.17 | yacoob | Hm, F1. FuBar plugin is enabled, but I do not see it on the any of two panels. |
| 20:02.18 | Saroz | piercing haul |
| 20:02.20 | Saroz | (spl) |
| 20:02.21 | hyperChipmunk | up the ramp, off the ledge |
| 20:02.34 | hyperChipmunk | figure 8 |
| 20:02.36 | Codayus | If you heal a lot they'll come after you and cream you. If the kiter needs a lot of heals...get a better warrior. :-) |
| 20:02.50 | Codayus | Run speed enchants on boots = teh win. |
| 20:02.59 | Codayus | Even that's kind of a crutch though... |
| 20:03.07 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r8716 10oRA2/oRA2/ (4 files in 3 dirs): oRA2: bugfixes |
| 20:03.24 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but if what she was saying earlier is true, horde had friggin earthbind totems all this time |
| 20:03.42 | Codayus | I know, razor was easy for horde once...now they get to use the alliance strat. :-) |
| 20:03.43 | hyperChipmunk | compared to that, it's nothing |
| 20:03.51 | maia | so a single warrior after using the orb and razors volley spell can kite the whole room without needing much heals? hmm. |
| 20:04.27 | Amadeo | soon there will be one strat for both sides |
| 20:04.29 | Amadeo | alwyas! |
| 20:04.31 | Amadeo | always, too |
| 20:04.32 | Codayus | No warrior can survive meleeing more than a handful of mobs...so kiting 10 or 40, it doesn't much matter. |
| 20:04.38 | dreyruugr | We use 2 warriors... each one kites at one of the platforms... then we just kill everything else. (yes, even leggos) |
| 20:04.52 | dreyruugr | It's chaotic but it works |
| 20:04.54 | Saroz | piercing haul |
| 20:04.54 | Saroz | go go |
| 20:05.15 | Codayus | We have 2-3 trains though...but we're still working out our strat. |
| 20:05.28 | Saroz | we have max 2 |
| 20:05.43 | Saroz | and we've farmed it for like almost a year now |
| 20:05.44 | [Ammo] | anyone know any reason why OnEnable wouldn't be called on a module but being called on all other modules |
| 20:05.53 | [Ammo] | the function is there |
| 20:05.55 | Codayus | We're *very* new...2-3 people in guild have full tier 1, most have a lot less. We just don't have the gear to brute force it. |
| 20:05.56 | [Ammo] | I can call it manually |
| 20:05.58 | [Ammo] | and it works |
| 20:06.04 | Saroz | go MC |
| 20:06.22 | Amadeo | WOW |
| 20:06.26 | maia | Codayus: yeah, my raid group formed 6 weeks ago, most of the people in tier 0.5. we killd rag last week. |
| 20:06.30 | Amadeo | Downtime extended AGAIN |
| 20:06.33 | Amadeo | until 4 PM PST |
| 20:06.48 | wereHamster | I run through the room from one side to the other and collect the adds that are attacking healers/cloth classes,, I usually have ~10-15 adds... |
| 20:06.52 | Saroz | that's pretty good maia |
| 20:07.14 | Codayus | Heh, we've had rag down since the start of June...so our gear isn't as bad as yours. :-) |
| 20:07.14 | maia | Saroz: our healers are using Squishy, that must be the reason ;) |
| 20:07.35 | snurre | squishy <3 |
| 20:07.46 | Saroz | I stopped using it :/ |
| 20:07.58 | maia | well, in my old raid we were close to nef early february. the leader left the game, the group fell apart over half a year. :( |
| 20:08.12 | maia | Saroz, why? |
| 20:08.41 | Saroz | the priority thing is wack, warlock is a 20% but it wants me to heal my party warrior |
| 20:08.48 | Saroz | *shrug* |
| 20:09.00 | Codayus | Sounds right to me... :-p |
| 20:09.14 | maia | Saroz: so the problem you're having is that it should heal the lock in a different group and not your warrior? |
| 20:09.33 | Saroz | well that's what I would do :) |
| 20:09.54 | maia | Saroz: the class modifiers work different that you think they do - I guess. |
| 20:10.05 | Codayus | Saroz: You can look at the Squishy.ClassModifiers table, and change the weightings. |
| 20:10.09 | maia | a class modifier of 20 = "unit has 20% more health than it really has" |
| 20:10.48 | maia | Saroz: also, in GetModifier() you'll find: if UnitInParty(u.unitid) then m = m - math.max(25, GetNumRaidMembers()) end |
| 20:11.23 | Tekkub | I can't find the fucking SCT frame thing... |
| 20:11.23 | maia | meaning that in a raid with 25 or more people everyone in your group has 25% less health than they really have. |
| 20:11.27 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r8717 10oRA2/oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: fixed manual join channel, useless because 1.12 tomorrow but hey :) |
| 20:11.39 | maia | Saroz: obviusly not for the health display, just for the priority sorting. |
| 20:11.46 | Saroz | mm |
| 20:11.47 | hyperChipmunk | Tekkub: did you re-run the whatchacallit |
| 20:11.53 | maia | so if you comment that out, you won't focus on your own party anymore. |
| 20:11.55 | Tekkub | yes |
| 20:12.10 | maia | and if you set WARLOCk to -10 instead of 20, you'll priorize locks. |
| 20:12.11 | Tekkub | I see CombatFeedback, but no frame defined |
| 20:12.25 | hyperChipmunk | combatfeedback is the one over your portrait, no? |
| 20:12.26 | Saroz | oki, will give it a try |
| 20:12.29 | Codayus | Wouldn't be too hard to make modifers editable in game... <shrug> Never saw the need, the default settings fit my playstyle... |
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| 20:12.47 | Tekkub | I have no clue... |
| 20:12.56 | Sinaloit|Bugged | Bah my connection dropped, sorry I missed why you said .toc files were worthless |
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| 20:13.07 | maia | Codayus: well, I'd like to add an option - same for Detox. But noone made a decent suggestion on how to easily do it with Dewdrop, without confusing everyone. |
| 20:13.16 | Tekkub | I said toc versions are worthless, that is all |
| 20:13.24 | Tekkub | it'll get updated whenever |
| 20:13.26 | Codayus | That sort of thing seems to be beyond the scope of drop down menus |
| 20:13.28 | maia | tek>toc |
| 20:13.32 | Codayus | Ideally you could create, edit, and save profiles. |
| 20:13.46 | maia | Codayus: might give it a try once we have AceGUI2. |
| 20:13.49 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 20:14.17 | Codayus | I'm working on a DKP/auction mod...need to enter an item and an option list of classes. /slash command is easy, but it's totally impossible in Dewdrop. |
| 20:14.19 | eternally777 | wow.. yay for full screen options menu? |
| 20:14.20 | FISKER_Q | how to piss people off 101 |
| 20:14.23 | Codayus | So having to build a gui by hand...bleh. |
| 20:14.41 | FISKER_Q | "Rogue whispers: you can stealth to twin emperors!" |
| 20:14.44 | FISKER_Q | Me: Cool!! |
| 20:14.46 | hyperChipmunk | Blizzard_CombatText |
| 20:14.57 | Tekkub | thanks hC |
| 20:15.04 | FISKER_Q | "Anubisath Defender's Meteor hits you for 14xxx." |
| 20:15.05 | Tekkub | fisk, stupid rogue |
| 20:15.11 | hyperChipmunk | it's in your AddOns dir |
| 20:15.17 | FISKER_Q | i get to pay half the raids repair cost woo |
| 20:15.21 | Tekkub | rogues < TOC version numbers |
| 20:15.23 | Codayus | Example command: /dj start [Ring of the Archmagus] priests, druids, mages |
| 20:15.32 | Codayus | Really needs a list of checkboxes, or something... |
| 20:15.36 | maia | guys, do we need to worry about the fact that ckknight hasnt been in here in the past 4 days, and also that he hasnt touched any of his addons? the fubarplugin error causes headaches. |
| 20:15.49 | Tekkub | ah I was looking for FrameXML >< |
| 20:15.51 | gnorlish | he's dealing with his brother's wedding i thought? |
| 20:15.58 | hyperChipmunk | Tekkub: just whatever you do, don't look at Blizzard_CombatText.xml if you value your sanity |
| 20:16.09 | Tekkub | oh I won't |
| 20:16.23 | Tekkub | just, someone anchored to UIParent not WorldFrame... |
| 20:16.27 | Tekkub | *eyeroll* |
| 20:16.37 | dreyruugr | ? |
| 20:16.40 | Mikma | ~inflatable Tekkub |
| 20:16.43 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:16.44 | Tekkub | I have to remind slow ken of this every time... |
| 20:16.55 | maia | Codayus: suggestion on how to do it in dewdrop: make 2 steps. first have a type="text" to enter the item. then open a dewdrop subgroup with the classes, mark the ones that may use it. |
| 20:17.07 | *** join/#wowace Grumpey (n=Owner@dialup-4.88.17.40.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) |
| 20:17.23 | dreyruugr | What's bad about anchoring to UIParent? |
| 20:17.32 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r8718 10FuBar_BagFu/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:17.32 | CIA-11 | BagFu: |
| 20:17.32 | CIA-11 | - Update of BagFu to the FuBar2 era. |
| 20:17.39 | Grumpey | afternoon |
| 20:18.37 | maia | Codayus: I'm doing something similar with an onTime addon (for dkp when being in the right zone on time). step1: execute command to poll the zones the raid members are in. step2, create the dewdrop submenu with the zones, let users check the 'good' zones. step3: create a list of raid members in these zones, print them for easy copy&pasting |
| 20:18.57 | Tekkub | oh fucking eh |
| 20:19.16 | Tekkub | he's blown UIParent all over this shit, it's not at all a simple visor fix |
| 20:19.21 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.13 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.18 | *** join/#wowace Soltanis (i=as@81.168.16.197) |
| 20:20.21 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.24 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.27 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.33 | hyperChipmunk | I warned you =) |
| 20:22.41 | Sinaloit|Bugged | I was considering something like that at one point codayus I figured an easier way would be to have a GUI w/ the 9 class icons that you click/unclick to highlight and indicate who can bid, could have a text entry box for the cost and a link to the item also |
| 20:22.48 | Codayus | hmm |
| 20:23.56 | Codayus | Sinaloit|Bugged: That's kind of how I'm doing it, except I've got a perl script to slurp prices down from an eqdkp site. |
| 20:23.56 | Tekkub | hC... yea... |
| 20:23.56 | Codayus | The two step dewdrop approach could work... |
| 20:23.56 | Tekkub | and the login server is "down" |
| 20:23.56 | Tekkub | fuck this shit |
| 20:25.18 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r8719 10Squishy/Squishy.toc: Squishy: fixed the typo in the .toc |
| 20:25.54 | Mikma | hmm |
| 20:26.04 | Mikma | wowace.com/forums don't work for some reason :( |
| 20:26.32 | FISKER_Q | btw |
| 20:26.38 | FISKER_Q | do we need to use oRA 2 for tomorrow? |
| 20:26.42 | FISKER_Q | (today for the us) |
| 20:26.43 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r8720 10FuBar_MoneyFu/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:26.43 | CIA-11 | MoneyFu: |
| 20:26.43 | CIA-11 | - FuBar2 update for MoneyFu. |
| 20:27.30 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r8721 10FuBar_BagFu/FuBar_BagFu.toc: |
| 20:27.30 | CIA-11 | BagFu: |
| 20:27.31 | CIA-11 | - Removed duplicate Crayon-2.0 line in the .toc |
| 20:30.47 | hyperChipmunk | Tekkub: luckily, it's actually on the AddOn list at character select |
| 20:30.57 | hyperChipmunk | so you can turn it off and never have to deal with it |
| 20:31.29 | FISKER_Q | what's the command to silence a raid with ct_raidassist? |
| 20:31.49 | hyperChipmunk | ctstfu? |
| 20:31.55 | maia | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.55 | hyperChipmunk | which effectively shuts up the morons who use CTRA and not oRA |
| 20:34.29 | FISKER_Q | no cause ctra shuts them up clientside |
| 20:34.30 | FISKER_Q | so to speak |
| 20:34.36 | FISKER_Q | you don't tell the client it can't speak |
| 20:34.56 | FISKER_Q | raidassist just tells itself that non-assistees/leaders can't speak |
| 20:37.29 | hyperChipmunk | you can't squelch someone else's client's messages |
| 20:38.20 | *** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@219-90-188-241.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 20:38.30 | FISKER_Q | nope but you can filter them |
| 20:38.41 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8722 10BattleChat/BattleChat.lua: |
| 20:38.42 | CIA-11 | BattleChat: |
| 20:38.42 | CIA-11 | - Coloring Changed. |
| 20:38.42 | CIA-11 | - Coloring by Spell-Element added |
| 20:38.42 | CIA-11 | - Changed default kill- and deathtext |
| 20:38.42 | CIA-11 | - Display of Dots changed |
| 20:38.44 | dreadlyone | phyber : in the moneyfu ace2 update, seems metrognome external is broken |
| 20:39.04 | FISKER_Q | you can write and all that, but raidassist just supresses it for the time the /raquelch is on |
| 20:39.22 | FISKER_Q | of course everyone with ora would see other people writing if there is no support for it |
| 20:39.46 | maia | and this is a terrible option btw. noone should ever be able to shut me up. |
| 20:40.45 | FISKER_Q | i can see the point, but here some people are complaining about too much information when loot is handled |
| 20:40.53 | FISKER_Q | imo it should be their own problem but we nurse them :) |
| 20:41.11 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r8723 10FuBar_MoneyFu/Libs/: FuBar_MoneyFu: Fixed Metrognome-2.0 external reference. |
| 20:41.22 | yacoob | A thing in FuBar that grabs by heart user of Titan: drag&drop of plugins :D |
| 20:42.19 | FISKER_Q | omg |
| 20:42.26 | FISKER_Q | valve made a deal with popcap games |
| 20:42.26 | FISKER_Q | O_o |
| 20:42.38 | *** join/#wowace Andalia (n=xx@p54AD8067.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:43.45 | FISKER_Q | btw we need to use oRA2 tomorrow if we want to keep using oRA right? |
| 20:44.53 | [Ammo] | it's slightly br0ken atm :) |
| 20:44.54 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r8724 10oRA2/oRA2/ (Core-1.12.lua Core.lua): oRA2: enable rosterlib this time |
| 20:44.58 | Galka | Anyone here a use of MiniPerfsFu? |
| 20:45.15 | FISKER_Q | oh :( |
| 20:45.29 | Fritti | so, was USA patched today? |
| 20:45.33 | FISKER_Q | but oRA doesn't support the new CT_Raidassist right? |
| 20:45.34 | Firedancer | yes fritti |
| 20:45.46 | Fritti | they don't say it in the .eu MOTD |
| 20:45.50 | Grumpey | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.51 | Fritti | only downtime till 16:00 (wtf) |
| 20:47.41 | Grumpey | some of the realms are up .. |
| 20:48.36 | FryGuy- | burning blade is going down in a minute |
| 20:49.22 | maia | can anyone suggest Ace(2) battleground addons? Looking to replace my BGassist (just used it for the visible res timer bar), and wondering if anyone is working on BattlegroundFu as I had terrible fps problems using it a month ago (and havent seen commits recently I think) |
| 20:50.16 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8725 10BattleChat/BattleChat.lua: |
| 20:50.16 | CIA-11 | BattleChat: |
| 20:50.17 | CIA-11 | AceEvent-2.0: Cannot unregister event "PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED". "BattleChat" is not registered with it. |
| 20:50.17 | CIA-11 | That's an annoying error. |
| 20:50.33 | hyperChipmunk | haven't touched BatFu because I haven't gotten any reports of problems |
| 20:50.43 | eternally777 | Would anybody be willing to assist me in testing my addon? I'm not getting too much help from my guild, unfortunately. |
| 20:50.55 | hyperChipmunk | if you svn it, they will come |
| 20:51.35 | eternally777 | brb |
| 20:53.13 | maia | hyperChipmunk: as for, BattlegroundFu: if I remember correctly it caused a 5-10kb/s memory. Will need to run profiler / tek on it tonight. |
| 20:54.29 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r8726 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: drycode corrections |
| 20:55.27 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r8727 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: another typo fix |
| 20:55.37 | maia | second question: I'm looking for a way to put a simple black 50% alpha frame into the lower area of my screen (aka complete width, about 150px high), to then put all my UI stuff in there. Right now I'm using CT_Viewport, but it would be nicer if I'd have something shiny instead of everything completely black. I've seen nice stuff in various screenshots, can anyone point me a direction please? |
| 20:57.08 | Cairenn | they've likely just used ct_viewport then dumped a texture (or whatever) in the area |
| 20:57.17 | *** join/#wowace Silv (n=Silvio@adsl-21-219-89.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 20:57.59 | maia | Cairenn: yeah, but I assume there is an addon that will allow to create a frame of any size, plus setting the texture and border style (besides using Discord) |
| 20:58.33 | Firedancer | XArt on the svn puts a nice texture behind the bottom part of screen. I'm sure you could modify the size and the art to siut your needs |
| 20:59.15 | FtH|eagle | btw. anyone got a nice texture for the minimap? want to include it into xart |
| 20:59.35 | Health | Still lag every 30 sec on us? |
| 20:59.42 | Firedancer | can always just hide the minimap border and use the texture that is already there |
| 21:01.22 | Laric | maia dart works for that |
| 21:01.25 | Grumpey | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.43 | maia | Laric: I don't really want to install a discord mod again ;) |
| 21:01.43 | Laric | sorry saw you didnt want dart |
| 21:01.47 | Grumpey | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.28 | Laric | is there any addon breakage with 1.12 in general? |
| 21:02.59 | maia | FtH|eagle: what would I have to do in XArt if I don't want any textures but just a simple 50% alpha background instead? |
| 21:03.40 | Iceroth | can any US player confirm/deny if the druid furor bug is fixed? does it lag to get rage when shifting to bear? |
| 21:03.45 | FtH|eagle | create a frame with no border and a backgroundcolor |
| 21:04.00 | maia | Laric: I'm mostly using Ace addons from the svn, and so far everything is fine. |
| 21:04.25 | maia | FtH|eagle: yeah - I just don't know how, I'm bad in UI stuff ;) |
| 21:04.26 | Laric | well lets just say squishy was no fun tonight with acecomm installed |
| 21:04.34 | maia | Laric: no? |
| 21:04.40 | maia | oh, on 1.11. |
| 21:04.46 | Laric | exactly |
| 21:04.53 | FtH|eagle | not very difficult, wait a minute |
| 21:05.14 | Laric | thank god i have bugsack |
| 21:06.05 | FryGuy- | XRS broke somehow |
| 21:06.28 | maia | FtH|eagle: think I can mess with XArt, seems to be easy lua code anyway ;) |
| 21:06.28 | FryGuy- | the bug really doesn't make any sense though, looking at the code |
| 21:06.29 | FryGuy- | [2006/08/22 13:46:24-45]: XRS\\XRS_BuffClass.lua:439: bad argument #2 to `insert' (number expected, got string)\n<in C code>: in function `insert'\nXRS\\XRS_BuffClass.lua:439: in function `PrintMissingBuffs'\nXRS\\XRS_BuffClass.lua:68: in function <Interface\\AddOns\\XRS\\XRS_BuffClass.lua:66>\n\n |
| 21:06.53 | FryGuy- | why is "number expected" for the second argument of table.insert? |
| 21:07.18 | FryGuy- | (that happens when you shift-click on a buff btw) |
| 21:07.43 | Laric | ora updated for 1.12? |
| 21:07.55 | FryGuy- | i think everyone's asking that :) |
| 21:08.13 | Laric | sorry then.. been playing a bit :P |
| 21:10.08 | Tekkub | wewt, got info I need to make Quecho a lot better now :) |
| 21:11.06 | Laric | quecho? |
| 21:11.58 | maia | FtH|eagle: hmm, might not be as easy as expected. I commented out the for i=1,4 part for the textures and added self.frame:SetBackdropColor(0, 0, 0); self.frame:SetAlpha(0.5) - but I don't see any frame at all. gah. :) |
| 21:12.19 | FtH|eagle | xrs broke with 1.12? |
| 21:12.42 | FtH|eagle | i hope they didn't broke table.insert :P |
| 21:12.55 | maia | FtH|eagle: hmm, the frame is there. it just doesnt have any alpha. |
| 21:13.18 | FtH|eagle | try it with the fourth argument in backdropcolor |
| 21:13.31 | Laric | maia whats the point with 50% alpha on a black background? |
| 21:13.55 | maia | Laric: I just want it half-transparent. like the squishy background (if you dont hide it) |
| 21:14.06 | maia | everything shaded black. |
| 21:14.25 | Laric | but there is nothing to 'transparent' it to? |
| 21:14.39 | maia | hm? |
| 21:14.42 | Laric | or didnt you reduce the worldframe? |
| 21:15.04 | Laric | thought you were use ct_viewport? |
| 21:15.14 | maia | Laric: I don't want to reduce the worldframe. I want to replace CT_Viewport by a black, semi transparent frame in the bottom area of my screen |
| 21:15.23 | Laric | oh |
| 21:15.33 | Laric | sorry misunderstood then |
| 21:15.51 | FtH|eagle | is it working with the alpha now? |
| 21:16.01 | maia | I guess SetBackdropColor() isn't corrent |
| 21:16.10 | maia | s/corrent/correct/ |
| 21:16.26 | FtH|eagle | why not? |
| 21:16.50 | FtH|eagle | frame:SetBackdropColor(r,g,b,a) |
| 21:16.51 | maia | FtH|eagle: I uncommented the alpha line. theoretically I should now have a black frame. I don't. So I guess it's not correct to use frame:SetBackdropColor(). |
| 21:16.53 | FtH|eagle | try setting a |
| 21:17.47 | maia | didnt help. there's no visible frame. |
| 21:18.16 | maia | using MoveAnything I can /move XArtFrame - so the frame is there. it's just completely transparent, without backdrop. |
| 21:18.43 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r8728 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: more typo fix |
| 21:18.55 | Grumpey | :maia http://wowi.pastey.net/366 |
| 21:19.10 | *** join/#wowace Kyahx|afk (n=Kyahx@65-73-45-21.dsl1.mnd.mn.frontiernet.net) |
| 21:19.46 | Grumpey | I can't remember who posted that on the forums .. but it seems to work ok ./ |
| 21:19.47 | Kyahx | =( evil patches |
| 21:20.46 | maia | interesting, that one works. |
| 21:21.01 | maia | probably because I wasnt using SetBackdrop() |
| 21:21.21 | Kyahx | so...Im sure this has been asked a billion times today but... whats the ETA on oRA? |
| 21:22.05 | JoshBorke | maia: oh! hey! question! |
| 21:22.16 | JoshBorke | maia: have you used RosterLib in more than squishy? |
| 21:22.54 | maia | JoshBorke: yes, in Detox. And its also used in SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 when available |
| 21:23.21 | JoshBorke | maia: I'm using it in Borked_Monitor and it seemed like when I disable squishy through FuBar, RosterLib disabled itself |
| 21:24.29 | Sinaloit | oh idle thing I noticed about RosterLib meant to ask but forgot to post, in the SE-Aura-2.0 it does: RL:Disable() on PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD but doesn't RL:Enable() on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, does roster handle that itself? |
| 21:24.33 | maia | JoshBorke: you need to do a RosterLib:Enable() in your OnEnable() and also disable it when you're disabling your addon |
| 21:24.45 | JoshBorke | i'll need to look into it |
| 21:24.50 | JoshBorke | bye all :-) |
| 21:24.50 | *** part/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@jak-579.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 21:25.23 | Laric | maia you do the enable and disable to keep a counter up to see if it should updatE? |
| 21:25.30 | maia | yes |
| 21:25.34 | Laric | nice |
| 21:25.39 | maia | but it seems to cause too much headache ;) |
| 21:26.07 | Laric | thats why mine isnt working :P |
| 21:27.01 | maia | I think its mentioned in the documentation though to use Enable and Disable() |
| 21:27.22 | Azurewrath | [Ammo]: Error: AceHook-2.0: The object you supplied does not have a GetScript method. AddOn: oRA2 File: Resurrection.lua Line: 107 Count: 1 when making a party to a raidgroup |
| 21:27.25 | Sinaloit | maia: is that a bug un SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 then? |
| 21:27.36 | Sinaloit | s/un/in |
| 21:27.47 | maia | which bug? |
| 21:28.03 | FtH|eagle | can anyone else test xraid on 1.12? |
| 21:28.04 | maia | Sinaloit: oh. sec. |
| 21:28.39 | maia | Sinaloit: it's enabled in local function registerevents(self) |
| 21:28.57 | *** join/#wowace Soltanis (i=Soltanis@81.168.16.197) |
| 21:29.07 | *** join/#wowace Soltanis (i=Soltanis@81.168.16.197) |
| 21:29.19 | Kyahx | FtH|eagle: I'm logging in right now |
| 21:29.31 | Kyahx | raid in 2 hours :S |
| 21:29.32 | FtH|eagle | ty |
| 21:29.44 | FtH|eagle | joining a raid for testing should be enough |
| 21:29.53 | Tekkub | haha |
| 21:30.04 | Tekkub | I just called me guild a bunch of "curse users" |
| 21:30.08 | Tekkub | they got alllll bitchy |
| 21:30.19 | Tekkub | because they are :) |
| 21:30.36 | Kyahx | heh |
| 21:30.49 | Kyahx | bleh, my realm isnt even up =( |
| 21:31.02 | Azurewrath | mhm... are the maintankframes of oRa2 supposed to work currently? |
| 21:31.15 | Soltanis | no |
| 21:31.15 | FtH|eagle | afaik no |
| 21:31.38 | Azurewrath | ah ok, that explains why it doesn't display any ;) |
| 21:31.57 | Silv | i just pulled down oRA2 and it doesnt use SendAddonMessage so i'd say not 1.12 ready anyway |
| 21:31.58 | phyber | eternally777_afk: thanks for that fix, just noticed it and was trying to fix myself ;) |
| 21:33.02 | Soltanis | SIlv : it won't if you are still using 1.11 |
| 21:33.05 | Laric | silv eh.. ora2 should trigger the 1.12 core and use send addon message i think |
| 21:33.08 | Tekkub | guess it's time for me to look at AceComm |
| 21:33.50 | Silv | oh i see |
| 21:34.02 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r8729 10WatchDog/WatchDog/WatchDog.lua: WatchDog: Click-casting code has been removed. Use Clique. |
| 21:34.24 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r8730 10WatchDog/WatchDogOptions/ (WatchDogOptions.lua WatchDogOptions.xml): WatchDog: Removed all click-casting code. Use clique. |
| 21:34.51 | Tekkub | go go clatter! |
| 21:35.15 | Silv | dont know |
| 21:35.17 | Kyahx | Where is Clad? |
| 21:35.22 | Mikma | not here |
| 21:35.26 | Kyahx | I havent seen him in days |
| 21:35.27 | Mikma | someone should ask him to join |
| 21:36.33 | Laric | he is in wowi-lounge |
| 21:36.53 | Silv | i just picked apart oRA2 and even doing a recursive search i dont see anywhere that it uses SendAddonMessage or CHAT_MSG_ADDON |
| 21:36.54 | Tekkub | tell him to stop pouting |
| 21:36.57 | Amadeo | haha |
| 21:37.00 | Tekkub | and get his ass in here |
| 21:37.05 | Silv | so idk how |
| 21:37.59 | Thrae | Is there a mana conservation addon that -just- provides mana conservation functions to call from something like Clique? |
| 21:38.04 | Silv | only SendChatMessage(msg, "CHANNEL", nil, GetChannelName(self.db.profile.channel) ) |
| 21:38.05 | Laric | silv you are kidding right? |
| 21:38.09 | Silv | no sir |
| 21:38.17 | Thrae | Ah wait, I remember seeing "AceHealLight" in branches |
| 21:38.27 | Kyahx | Dont ask questions about it! |
| 21:38.34 | Laric | line 362 in Core-1,12.lua |
| 21:39.33 | Silv | are we talking http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/oRA2 ? |
| 21:39.37 | Silv | or branch? |
| 21:39.42 | [Ammo] | branch |
| 21:39.48 | Silv | oh, i'm sorry |
| 21:41.02 | Jagobah | wowace down? |
| 21:42.33 | Mikma | no, just laggy |
| 21:43.17 | maia | [Ammo]: any chance we'll see a FuBar/Dewdrop for oRA2 soon? ;) |
| 21:43.22 | Kyahx | [Ammo]: is oRA1 going to get patched for 1.12? or should we just suffer untill oRA2 is ready? |
| 21:43.38 | Kyahx | mmm, quetion assult :P |
| 21:43.40 | Kyahx | question* |
| 21:43.43 | [Ammo] | suffer, because I don't care atm :) |
| 21:43.50 | Kyahx | bleh, can I path it then? |
| 21:43.52 | Kyahx | patch* |
| 21:43.52 | Mikma | [Ammo]: you should have a talk with haste about the name ;) |
| 21:43.57 | Kyahx | becuase I already started to :P |
| 21:44.12 | [Ammo] | just don't touch oRA2, do whatever you want with oRA :p |
| 21:44.46 | Kyahx | mmkay :) |
| 21:45.05 | Kyahx | but first...to make ViewAddonMessage |
| 21:45.07 | Mikma | oprah would be a good raidassist name :D open raid assistant/helper |
| 21:45.22 | Health | How much NR needed at C'thun as a priest? |
| 21:45.27 | Thrae | Kyahx: What IS AceHealLight? I was thinking of making my own mana conservation addon for healing and maybe for damage which is intended for use with Clique. |
| 21:45.37 | Kyahx | Thrae: it's AceHeal, only lighter |
| 21:45.38 | Kyahx | :P |
| 21:45.53 | Kyahx | It was something to use with Clique untill healSelect was done |
| 21:45.53 | hyperChipmunk | it's like HealLight, only Acier |
| 21:46.03 | Kyahx | it was AceHeal stripped down to only the spell selection functions |
| 21:46.10 | Thrae | Ahhh, as I thought. |
| 21:46.16 | Thrae | HealSelect? |
| 21:46.24 | Silv | Health: 0 |
| 21:46.31 | Health | ok :p |
| 21:46.32 | Azurewrath | Hel: nearly nothing |
| 21:46.41 | Tekkub | Cockpit kicks ass :) |
| 21:46.45 | Azurewrath | you only get hit by the eye beam sometimes.. no need for NR |
| 21:47.10 | Mikma | boom |
| 21:47.13 | Thrae | I see no "healSelect" in trunk or branches |
| 21:47.19 | hyperChipmunk | Tekkub: I don't get it |
| 21:47.44 | Mikma | ok, how is oRA1 broken in 1.12? |
| 21:47.53 | maia | Thrae: so you're planning to write a mod that will use SpellStatus or a similar lib to cath all spellcasts, then parse the tooltip for that spell, check the healing amount and the target and if you're overhealing, trigger an event? |
| 21:47.58 | Tekkub | check out Cockpit hC |
| 21:48.03 | Tekkub | it's on the SVN |
| 21:48.05 | hyperChipmunk | my server isn't up |
| 21:48.06 | Kyahx | Mikma: its not, its just not compatible with new CTRA |
| 21:48.10 | hyperChipmunk | I just read the svn log |
| 21:48.11 | Kyahx | since its not useing SendAddonMessage |
| 21:48.18 | Mikma | Kyahx: phew, doesn't matter to me then :) |
| 21:48.20 | maia | Tekkub: what is cockpit? |
| 21:48.23 | hyperChipmunk | but what does it change camera view TO? |
| 21:48.27 | hyperChipmunk | - Mod to change camera views when in flight |
| 21:48.47 | Tekkub | stop asking and install it |
| 21:48.48 | Tekkub | god |
| 21:48.57 | Tekkub | to what you set |
| 21:49.03 | Thrae | maia: No no. Just a set of functions you can use with Clique or in macros. That would be way overkill -- if I want to cast my highest rank Healing Spell or highest rank Damage spell, then I want to cast it. |
| 21:49.03 | Tekkub | default is first person |
| 21:49.29 | hyperChipmunk | meh, I've got a first-person -0.001 zoom mapped to Ctrl-MiddleMouse |
| 21:49.45 | maia | hmm. PerformanceFu in 1.12: Time to next GC: 1% d h 26%d m 20%d s |
| 21:49.52 | Tekkub | shit, lexan imploded |
| 21:50.01 | hyperChipmunk | and if yours doesn't pull it back that 0.001, you should make it do so, tek |
| 21:50.08 | maia | Tekkub: learn to explain your addons ;) |
| 21:50.10 | hyperChipmunk | so you don't run into pitch restraints |
| 21:50.26 | Tekkub | hC, set a camera view yourself and use that |
| 21:50.32 | Thrae | I suppose it would parse the tooltip and grab out damage and healing amounts, available ranks, and parse your currently equipped items each time you switch. |
| 21:50.34 | hyperChipmunk | normally, in first person view you're limited to only about a 135 degree arc |
| 21:50.48 | hyperChipmunk | I'm not going to use it; I already have camera hotkeys |
| 21:50.53 | maia | Thrae: thats what I'm saying. |
| 21:50.58 | Tekkub | fine, ass |
| 21:51.04 | hyperChipmunk | I'm just saying for your default |
| 21:51.12 | hyperChipmunk | you ought to make sure |
| 21:51.47 | Thrae | Is there something like an "Item Bonus" library? |
| 21:52.00 | Tekkub | I just use the API's views |
| 21:52.02 | Tekkub | :P |
| 21:52.15 | Tekkub | if you want other camera points, make your own |
| 21:52.42 | Thrae | Kyahx: What did you mean by "healSelect"? |
| 21:53.00 | Kyahx | I am missing 500 hp, heal select picks a smaller, cheaper heal |
| 21:53.25 | Thrae | I mean, is this a different addon then AceHealLight? |
| 21:53.52 | hyperChipmunk | well, i'm trying to give your mod at least something useful to make someone want to download it; it's near-impossible to set that setting in-game because the mousewheel doesnt have fine enough control |
| 21:54.05 | maia | Thrae: the code to parse healing bonus is rather sort. hold on a sec. |
| 21:54.21 | hyperChipmunk | you either go all the way in, or you're looking through your character |
| 21:54.39 | Tekkub | hC, and the camera "issues" aren't my problem |
| 21:54.52 | Tekkub | another mod can define that view spot easily for you |
| 21:55.01 | Tekkub | Cockpit can use that if you save it |
| 21:55.07 | hyperChipmunk | I know; you just wrote the mod to fit the name |
| 21:55.22 | Tekkub | why the hell should Cockpit be messing with camera settings? it just uses the ones defined in the game |
| 21:55.24 | maia | Thrae: gah, can't find the code. But there are addons you can rip the code from - e.g. BonusScanner |
| 21:55.34 | Tekkub | I wrote the mod to do what I want |
| 21:55.40 | hyperChipmunk | because it's a mod that has no use anyway, at least make it pretend to O_o |
| 21:55.48 | Tekkub | and was nice enough to not hardcode the settings :) |
| 21:55.48 | maia | Thrae: or, if you want to do it perfect, look at SMH (simply magical healer), as it also includes buffs, talents,... |
| 21:56.05 | Thrae | Ah yes, almost forgot about talents. |
| 21:56.11 | Tekkub | oh just shut up and go spam your keybinding :P |
| 21:56.26 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 21:56.41 | hyperChipmunk | i will |
| 21:57.04 | Tekkub | yea so I'm sick of my guild still |
| 21:57.11 | Tekkub | I need a raiding guild damnit! |
| 21:57.17 | Tekkub | and a leveling partner... |
| 21:58.31 | hyperChipmunk | a tallstrider is the only leveling partner you'll ever need <3 |
| 21:58.52 | Tekkub | CFYhCOMG! |
| 21:59.00 | Tekkub | s/C/G/ |
| 22:00.35 | Mikma | so |
| 22:00.43 | Mikma | are the druids fixed in 1.12 |
| 22:01.06 | hyperChipmunk | that question hasn't gotten any less stupid than when you asked it last night |
| 22:01.13 | hyperChipmunk | I hope you're not expecting an answer |
| 22:02.13 | CIA-11 | 03kyahx * r8731 10ViewAddonMessage/ (. Core.lua ViewAddonMessage.toc libs/): |
| 22:02.13 | CIA-11 | ViewAddonMessage: |
| 22:02.13 | CIA-11 | - Initial Import |
| 22:02.13 | CIA-11 | - Intercepts CHAT_MSG_ADDON and prints the information into ChatFrame3 |
| 22:02.23 | Health | Best FuBar exp module? |
| 22:02.35 | hyperChipmunk | FuXPFu |
| 22:02.50 | hyperChipmunk | speaking of which... |
| 22:02.52 | hyperChipmunk | ~seen wobin |
| 22:03.07 | purl | wobin is currently on #gnu-kbsd, last said: 'And there appear to be no limitations to the location of the coder =P'. |
| 22:03.08 | Thrae | Yes, Mikma. No longer will Druids run around in Cat Form / Bear Form / Travel Form / Aquatic Form and have lots and lots of Kittens / Cubs / Cubs / Baby Sea Lion...thingies. They are "fixed". |
| 22:03.23 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 22:03.37 | Thrae | In seriousness, look at the patch notes. |
| 22:03.39 | hyperChipmunk | that's not him |
| 22:04.06 | Thrae | If they didn't say they fixed the Rage lag bug, then they didn't fix it. |
| 22:04.10 | Amadeo | Can someone make me an addon that automatically grinds me to Rank 14? |
| 22:04.25 | Kyahx | diawf |
| 22:04.30 | hyperChipmunk | RaidMap wfm |
| 22:04.31 | Kyahx | psh |
| 22:04.34 | Amadeo | wet fire huh? |
| 22:04.43 | hyperChipmunk | I had to write it myself, though |
| 22:04.49 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: I still want that |
| 22:04.54 | Amadeo | did you Ace2 it? |
| 22:04.59 | Thrae | Ooo, I need a good RaidMap |
| 22:05.02 | hyperChipmunk | it's nto even ace1ed |
| 22:05.04 | Mikma | patch notes, where? |
| 22:05.05 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:05.06 | Kyahx | Amadeo: waterfall |
| 22:05.12 | hyperChipmunk | it was my first addon ever |
| 22:05.16 | Amadeo | Kyahx: Don't go chasing waterfalls |
| 22:05.23 | Kyahx | or dieing in them |
| 22:05.27 | hyperChipmunk | it's worked for the last 6 patches or so without a hitch, so I haven't touched it |
| 22:06.55 | Industrial | Is there an easiest fast and/or best way of knowing if a unit has certain buffs? |
| 22:07.12 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: RaidMap is pretty goddamn neat. Does it work with minature map? |
| 22:07.20 | hyperChipmunk | it can't |
| 22:07.26 | hyperChipmunk | well, it does |
| 22:07.29 | hyperChipmunk | but it's inaccurate |
| 22:07.38 | hyperChipmunk | because blizzard doesn't label those blips correctly |
| 22:07.45 | hyperChipmunk | if they fixed that, then it does |
| 22:07.48 | Thrae | Industrial: Clique's IsBuffActive, sending it the the icon. |
| 22:08.07 | Industrial | Thrae, thanks |
| 22:08.08 | maia | Industrial: use SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 and do something like aura:UnitHasBuff(unit, "Abolish Disease") |
| 22:08.17 | Industrial | abuuh... ok :P |
| 22:08.28 | Thrae | Industrial: Which scans the tooltip. No other way other then if the buff has a unique icon texture. |
| 22:08.41 | Thrae | SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 scans the tooltip, right? |
| 22:08.44 | hyperChipmunk | I really should update that; it's lots of chop-n-paste from when I, like, used cosmos |
| 22:09.13 | Tekkub | ~ace forum |
| 22:09.20 | purl | rumour has it, ace forum is offline |
| 22:09.21 | Tekkub | ~aceforum |
| 22:09.22 | Industrial | kay thanks cause I want to lazeify my hunter and add some macros |
| 22:09.29 | Tekkub | purl lag :P |
| 22:10.04 | maia | ~ckknight |
| 22:10.05 | purl | i heard ckknight is http://www.myspace.com/ckknight |
| 22:10.18 | maia | ~cladhaire |
| 22:10.19 | purl | i guess cladhaire is the current author of WatchDog, PerfectRaid, and a number of smaller addons. He is also a core developer of the Ace project. |
| 22:10.40 | Thrae | Industrial: I suggest you look at ThraeFuncs on SVN, it's a collection of functions specifically for macros and click-casting. It currently has general functions (like IsBuffActvie) and Druid-specific functions. I'd be happy if someone added their own Hunter functions too. |
| 22:10.59 | Tekkub | heh, poor ckk |
| 22:11.16 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 22:11.18 | hyperChipmunk | who did that? |
| 22:11.31 | Thrae | Most function libraries are waaaaaay overbloated *coughZorlencough* |
| 22:11.36 | hyperChipmunk | ~factinfo ckknight |
| 22:11.36 | purl | ckknight -- created by cladhaire <n=jnwhiteh@cpe-69-202-110-177.twcny.res.rr.com> at Mon Aug 14 00:29:02 2006 (8 days); it has been requested once, last by maia, 1m 31s ago. |
| 22:11.48 | Tekkub | hehe |
| 22:11.51 | maia | lol. on her blog one of the entries has the title "I hope I don't die. That would suck" |
| 22:11.56 | Tekkub | clad's so bitter |
| 22:12.05 | hyperChipmunk | where'd he go? |
| 22:12.09 | hyperChipmunk | I haven't seen either of them |
| 22:12.16 | Tekkub | him and ckk had a spat |
| 22:12.22 | CIA-11 | 03kyahx * r8732 10ViewAddonMessage/ (ViewAddonMessage.toc libs/): ViewAddonMessage: Adding externals. Fixing toc. |
| 22:12.25 | Tekkub | they'll be back, makeup sex is the best they say |
| 22:13.06 | MoonWolf | i hope at least ONE of them will be back. |
| 22:13.07 | Thrae | I think I'll code for a few hours, by that time this 16MB patch -may- be finished |
| 22:13.23 | Tekkub | I should rewrite FireShow... |
| 22:13.30 | Tekkub | give it a nice big update |
| 22:13.33 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 22:14.18 | Health | Which is? |
| 22:14.40 | Tekkub | thrae, you need the torrent? it's on the svn |
| 22:14.47 | hyperChipmunk | it echos all events |
| 22:14.50 | hyperChipmunk | and their args |
| 22:15.06 | Health | spam spam spam? |
| 22:15.12 | hyperChipmunk | it's the spammiest spam that ever spammed a spam |
| 22:15.13 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 22:15.17 | Kyahx | <3 spam |
| 22:16.07 | Thrae | Tekkub: Yeah I know I could go to someplace like Fileplanet to grab it, but I just want to see how long this stupid Blizzard client will wait. It also says I'm "behind a firewall"...which is true, but I know I have the correct ports open. |
| 22:16.37 | Mikma | oh great, the lag has started |
| 22:18.04 | Jagobah | ammo's ora2 working? |
| 22:18.22 | Jagobah | I posted a direct link |
| 22:19.46 | hyperChipmunk | [Ammo]: you have an extra subdirectory in your branch |
| 22:19.52 | [Ammo] | so? |
| 22:20.05 | [Ammo] | it's my branch I can do with it what I want :) |
| 22:20.15 | Health | Mikma, EU lag? |
| 22:20.16 | hyperChipmunk | I think the .toc needs to be in the first level for it to work in wow |
| 22:20.27 | Health | I think it's related to pre maintainance DB backups or something |
| 22:20.29 | [Ammo] | then you pointed your client to the wrong dir |
| 22:20.41 | hyperChipmunk | har |
| 22:21.01 | [Ammo] | but oRA2 is probably not working :) |
| 22:21.03 | [Ammo] | it works for me |
| 22:21.10 | [Ammo] | but there's a lot of bugs |
| 22:22.00 | Mikma | Health: yeah |
| 22:23.48 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r8733 10Clique/Plugins/Clique_BlizzRaidFrames.lua: |
| 22:23.48 | CIA-11 | Clique: |
| 22:23.48 | CIA-11 | * Should work with Blizzard Raid Frames now |
| 22:24.33 | Mikma | The Items that summon mounts have been changed in their color/quality. Items that summon normal mounts are now blue(superior)items and items that summon swift mounts are now purple(epic) items. |
| 22:24.35 | Health | Seecret ninja commit from cladie! |
| 22:24.40 | Mikma | now there's a important update |
| 22:28.09 | Health | Soo... how do i get to badlands for the first time as horde? |
| 22:28.14 | FryGuy- | hmm i made a hack to oRA that adds the sendaddonmessage to it |
| 22:28.18 | FryGuy- | but i probably broke stuff :/ |
| 22:28.37 | Mikma | Health: i always ran through wet lands -> loch modan |
| 22:28.49 | Health | Yeah, going there now :) |
| 22:28.53 | Health | Thankie! |
| 22:29.13 | Health | My 2 first 60s were horde.. then I started out on alliance and been playing there for some months now.. forgotten :p |
| 22:29.24 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 22:29.28 | Amadeo | switching factions screwes you up somehow |
| 22:29.32 | Amadeo | screws |
| 22:30.11 | Health | sure do |
| 22:30.55 | Health | Heh, I now first noticed about the drag and drop feature of fubar stuff |
| 22:31.08 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r8734 10BattleChat/BattleChat.lua: |
| 22:31.08 | CIA-11 | BattleChatBattleChat: |
| 22:31.08 | CIA-11 | - Added reputation, honor and xp events |
| 22:31.08 | CIA-11 | - Added levelup-event |
| 22:31.08 | CIA-11 | - Display of Dots changed again |
| 22:31.30 | hyperChipmunk | you poor thing |
| 22:31.42 | Tain | YOu goddamn motherfuckers, stop clearing my username after each patch. |
| 22:33.02 | Mikma | right. i can't see any items in mailbox / pick them up |
| 22:34.17 | Tain | Just logged on to, [SERVER] Restart in 6:00 |
| 22:34.32 | eternally777_afk | It's going to be a long night... |
| 22:35.03 | Health | Hehe |
| 22:35.20 | Health | EU has 14h planned downtime... |
| 22:35.35 | Amadeo | what the hell |
| 22:35.38 | Amadeo | new Bongos doesn't even work |
| 22:36.58 | Mikma | 14h? |
| 22:37.00 | Mikma | neat |
| 22:38.25 | Health | 02:00 -> 16:00 |
| 22:38.56 | *** join/#wowace Firedancer (n=chatzill@cpe-24-92-238-154.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 22:38.57 | Health | I wonder how well starting MC at 18 will go.. :P |
| 22:39.31 | hyperChipmunk | prolly not good, considering it's 18:39 here and it was supposed to come up at 16:00 |
| 22:39.37 | Health | wtb screenshot of new option menu |
| 22:39.43 | eternally777 | ugh |
| 22:39.48 | hyperChipmunk | on test it was an ugly full-screen affair |
| 22:39.51 | eternally777 | it's full screen |
| 22:40.04 | hyperChipmunk | I felt like I was playing EQ again |
| 22:40.16 | hyperChipmunk | with the original interface |
| 22:40.40 | Health | Hooray, you knew how to use "military time" or whatever it's called! |
| 22:40.43 | Tem | Health, don't worry it's ugly as balls |
| 22:40.54 | eternally777 | What could possibly possess them to make it full screen? That's like saying, "You're such an idiot that we know you couldn't possibly even attempt to be doing something else while adjusting options..." |
| 22:40.59 | eternally777 | ~roulette |
| 22:41.01 | purl | ACTION watches eternally777 pull the trigger: Click! |
| 22:41.06 | hyperChipmunk | it's called 'time that makes sense' |
| 22:41.19 | Health | :D |
| 22:41.28 | Mikma | ~tryme |
| 22:41.29 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. BANG! |
| 22:41.29 | hyperChipmunk | if anything, time should hit 12:30 and then count back down |
| 22:41.35 | Mikma | :( |
| 22:42.02 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r8735 10/branches/FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (15 files in 6 dirs): |
| 22:42.02 | CIA-11 | TopScoreFu: |
| 22:42.02 | CIA-11 | - Initial work on FuBar2 version. Totally unusable, this thing ate my dog even while I was working on the code. |
| 22:42.04 | hyperChipmunk | uh, I don't know why i said 12:30; pretend I'm a moron |
| 22:42.16 | hyperChipmunk | afk for dinner |
| 22:45.53 | grumpey | .. server reset |
| 22:46.09 | Tem | ding |
| 22:46.18 | Health | hopefully the us patch team tells the eu one a few so that we get less server resets! :p |
| 22:46.39 | kergoth | bah, i cant apply the path in linux, it errors at the very end about the lack of the uninstall registry entry |
| 22:46.52 | kergoth | s/path/patch/ |
| 22:48.08 | kergoth | someone mind exporting that section of their registry for me? :P |
| 22:48.11 | Kyahx | ok, I *think* I have oRA1 complient with the new CTRA |
| 22:48.13 | Health | Mikma, through the tunnel i wetlands? |
| 22:48.41 | CIA-11 | 03icetrain 07Ammo * r8736 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: Look, MT Frames.. kinda |
| 22:48.55 | Mikma | Health: yes |
| 22:49.01 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r8737 10oRA2/oRA2/Participant/MainTank.lua: oRA2: fill the mt table oninit with defaults or previously saved settings. |
| 22:49.16 | Firedancer | apparently CTRA's bossmods aren't working right in 1.12 heh |
| 22:49.20 | CIA-11 | 03theondry * r8738 10SnaFu/ (Changes.txt SnaFu.lua SnaFu.toc readme.txt): (log message trimmed) |
| 22:49.20 | CIA-11 | SnaFu: |
| 22:49.20 | CIA-11 | 1.3 22Aug06 |
| 22:49.20 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.21 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.23 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.25 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.35 | maia | hmm, I must be blind. where do I set the padding between units in ag_UF? |
| 22:51.15 | hyperChipmunk | /vz set n=1; nudge nudge nudge |
| 22:51.35 | maia | lol |
| 22:52.09 | hyperChipmunk | >8P |
| 22:52.22 | hyperChipmunk | actually, I don't use aguf, so no clue |
| 22:53.29 | FryGuy- | so is that ora2 the one inside ammo branch? |
| 22:53.54 | [Ammo] | yeah, it's teh crappy atm still though |
| 22:53.59 | FryGuy- | :\ |
| 22:54.03 | FryGuy- | well oRA doesn't even work |
| 22:54.45 | hyperChipmunk | heh, they're 'fixing issues related to cross-server battlegrounds on all realms' |
| 22:54.58 | hyperChipmunk | that was completely unexpected |
| 22:55.03 | kergoth | *gasp* |
| 22:55.56 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r8739 10oRA2/oRA2/oRA2.toc: oRA2: .toc update |
| 22:56.17 | Arrowmaster | is the wowace site having problems? |
| 22:56.47 | Firedancer | yup |
| 22:57.24 | Mikma | svn.wowace.com works nicely |
| 22:58.24 | phyber | iirc, www.wowace is hosted at whereever wowinterface is, so if wowi is getting hammered, www.wowace suffers ;) |
| 22:58.28 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r8740 10oRA2/oRA2/Core-1.12.lua: oRA2: version update in core-1.12 |
| 22:59.11 | Firedancer | yea, phyber. wowi also hosts ctmod i believe, which doesn't help on patchdays ;p |
| 22:59.25 | Azurewrath | ammo commits more often then i can update and launch wow to test /cry |
| 22:59.27 | phyber | ouch. didn't know that. |
| 23:01.55 | Sinaloit | anyone tried BigWigs on 1.12 yet? does it need anything more than a .toc update? |
| 23:02.26 | CIA-11 | 03theondry * r8742 10SnaFu/SnaFu.lua: SnaFu: removed a debug message |
| 23:04.07 | Arrowmaster | gah i need a way to ignore certain prefixes with ViewAddonMessage |
| 23:08.00 | Amadeo | HonorFu is broken |
| 23:09.27 | *** part/#wowace grumpey (n=Owner@dialup-4.88.17.40.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) |
| 23:10.12 | yacoob | Gah. |
| 23:10.48 | Amadeo | FuBar_HonorFu\HonorFu.lua:486: bad argument #3 to `find' (number expected, got string) |
| 23:10.53 | Amadeo | everytime I mouse over an enemy |
| 23:10.58 | Mikma | http://www.bash.org/?808 |
| 23:10.58 | Soltanis | Good night all |
| 23:11.07 | yacoob | Visor moves the frame, but not it's children :/ (moving MinimapCluster) |
| 23:11.28 | Thrae | yacoob: I just move 'em both separately with the same nudge value. |
| 23:12.04 | Thrae | yacoob: Visor doesn't move children because it's not SUPPOSE to. MinimapCluster is the parent of Minimap I think. Both are relative to UIParent, not each other. |
| 23:12.10 | yacoob | MinimapCluster+Minimap? |
| 23:12.25 | yacoob | No, Minimap is child of MinimapCluster - at least in my client :) |
| 23:12.55 | Thrae | Well anyway, the child's position on the screen doesn't have to be relative to its parent. You can explicitly set it to be relative to something else, Blizzard uses UIParent. |
| 23:14.17 | *** join/#wowace Sinaloit_ (n=Sinaloit@nc-67-77-140-164.sta.embarqhsd.net) |
| 23:15.23 | Amadeo | this BG thing is funny |
| 23:15.26 | Amadeo | there's like 68 games running |
| 23:15.29 | Amadeo | and I still can't get into any |
| 23:15.42 | Mikk | reroll horde? |
| 23:16.18 | *** part/#wowace Mikk (i=bofh@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 23:16.29 | CIA-11 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r8743 10GloryLib/Lib/GloryLib.lua: |
| 23:16.29 | CIA-11 | GloryLib: |
| 23:16.29 | CIA-11 | - Adjusted for 1.12 honor decay change |
| 23:16.31 | Amadeo | why? |
| 23:16.48 | Kyahx | BigWigs appears to be fully function and syncing properlyu |
| 23:18.17 | yacoob | now I did /vz x=0 y=0 p1=RIGHT p2=RIGHT and both frames didn't end up in same place :) |
| 23:22.50 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r8744 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: fixed the AceComm error. Don't trust the wiki API. |
| 23:23.01 | Soltanis | Think ammo , needs a comfort drink :-) |
| 23:23.37 | yacoob | hehe, and can I delete the background texture with visor? |
| 23:23.49 | *** join/#wowace `-FISKER_Q\ (i=blah2@85.24.17.250) |
| 23:23.55 | yacoob | (I'd like to have bottom fubar transparent, and upper not-transparent :) |
| 23:25.16 | Galka | Just downloaded and played with BattleChat |
| 23:25.19 | Galka | Very impressive and sexy |
| 23:25.24 | Amadeo | who maintains HonorFu? |
| 23:25.27 | Galka | Eagerly anticipating it being fleshed out |
| 23:25.51 | Thrae | Amadeo: If it's up on the SVN, check the logs. Otherwise check who uploaded it on WoWI. |
| 23:26.33 | Kyahx | maia: Why is Squishy sending Addon messages with no prefix?? |
| 23:27.08 | maia | Kyahx: now it should do so. doesnt it? |
| 23:27.19 | Kyahx | maia: well, maybe its an AceComm thing |
| 23:27.22 | Kyahx | its working fine |
| 23:27.34 | Amadeo | Thrae: I'm in game, I figured someone here would know so I wouldn't have to wait 10 minutes to open Explorer :P |
| 23:27.37 | Kyahx | but the message apears to have no prefix (useing ViewAddonMessage) |
| 23:27.46 | maia | Kyahx: the wiki says: .commPrefix = "whatever" |
| 23:28.02 | maia | in AceComm code I found to use the following (instead?): |
| 23:28.09 | maia | :SetCommPrefix("Squishy") |
| 23:28.14 | maia | maybe I need both. |
| 23:28.20 | Kyahx | then again, AceComm isnt suppose to be human readable |
| 23:28.26 | eternally777 | no, just one |
| 23:28.28 | Kyahx | I remember that being a debate, so n/m :P |
| 23:28.48 | eternally777 | Maia, :SetCommPrefix replaces .commPrefix i think |
| 23:28.59 | Kyahx | Its working fine, I was just confused :P |
| 23:29.02 | Silv | Squishy doesnt seem to accept my right click on the frame anymore |
| 23:29.09 | Silv | working as intended? :X |
| 23:29.14 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r8745 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: now setting the AceComm prefix twice. Can't hurt, might help. |
| 23:29.23 | maia | Silv: it's now either a minimap button or in your fubar. |
| 23:29.32 | Silv | rgr that |
| 23:29.49 | Neronix | Tekkub: Lexan imploded? |
| 23:29.55 | Neronix | is it an error on world map toggle? |
| 23:30.00 | Kyahx | maia: I have a feeling its just a AceComm quirk and totally normal. We'll see |
| 23:30.02 | Neronix | I'm sure I fixed that |
| 23:30.04 | Tekkub | yes |
| 23:30.12 | Tekkub | *shrug* I might be out of date |
| 23:30.16 | Tekkub | I'll check later |
| 23:30.17 | Neronix | what's the error? SetWorldMapScale is nil? |
| 23:30.17 | maia | Kyahx: we need ckknight. |
| 23:30.25 | Tekkub | think so |
| 23:30.31 | Neronix | lemme double check |
| 23:30.37 | Kyahx | Is 1.12 on your servers yet Maia? |
| 23:30.45 | maia | yes |
| 23:30.57 | Kyahx | download ViewAddonMessage to see what im talking about |
| 23:30.57 | maia | I'm playing on US servers though. |
| 23:31.06 | eternally777 | You get an error message if you define prefix twice. At least, I did. |
| 23:31.10 | maia | mmkay. I don't have a chatframe3 ;) |
| 23:31.17 | Kyahx | make one! |
| 23:31.58 | maia | back in a bit. |
| 23:33.35 | Neronix | Tekkub: You're out of date |
| 23:33.46 | Tekkub | k |
| 23:33.52 | yacoob | heh, and alpha is inherited from parent to child. Not quite logical :) |
| 23:35.08 | Kyahx | Tekkub: if GetBuildInfo() == "1.12" then return end dosent seem to work |
| 23:35.14 | Amadeo | wow |
| 23:35.18 | Amadeo | the lag in these BGs is crazy |
| 23:35.20 | FryGuy- | maia: you can only set prefix once lol |
| 23:35.23 | Kyahx | had to change it to | if GetBuildInfo() == "1.12.0" then return end | to recognize 1.12 |
| 23:35.40 | FryGuy- | so your commit message is in fact wrong. it *can* hurt :) |
| 23:35.48 | Tekkub | :P I didn't write that code... ammo, I win |
| 23:36.49 | CIA-11 | 03kyahx * r8746 10BigWigs/ (Comm-1.12.lua Comm.lua): BigWigs: GetBuildInfo() returns "1.12.0", not "1.12" |
| 23:37.35 | Neronix | ~whalecrit GetBuildInfo() |
| 23:37.38 | purl | ACTION crits GetBuildInfo() with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. GetBuildInfo() dies |
| 23:38.10 | Kyahx | heh |
| 23:38.13 | Kyahx | all working now :) |
| 23:39.32 | CIA-11 | 03icetrain 07Ammo * r8747 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: Now forces a refresh of the mt frames when enabling the module |
| 23:41.28 | Mikma | http://www.bash.org/?48676 |
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| 23:43.21 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r8748 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: comm prefix may only be set once. hmm. |
| 23:44.02 | eternally777 | Maia, do we know if it does that with all AceComm-2.0 mods? |
| 23:44.14 | eternally777 | As soon as I log in I'll test my mod's prefixes |
| 23:44.43 | yacoob | Hm. Options of Visor could be documented better. |
| 23:45.12 | Thiana | Did they change GetContainerItemInfo()? It's giving me -1 for the quality of *everything* :/ |
| 23:45.48 | eternally777 | maia, there's a prefix on my mod's transmissions, but it's not the prefix I specified, most likely due to AceComm's "memoizations" |
| 23:45.58 | Kyahx | Yea |
| 23:46.18 | Amadeo | wow |
| 23:46.21 | Amadeo | this patch is horrible |
| 23:46.22 | Thiana | Kyahx, Ok, any idea how to get an item's quality now? |
| 23:46.27 | Amadeo | Good job not testing your patches, Blizz |
| 23:46.31 | Kyahx | um |
| 23:46.40 | Kyahx | hmmm |
| 23:47.33 | Kyahx | Thiana: I'm not sure what your asking |
| 23:48.37 | yacoob | Sigh, I give up. Can anyone shed some light on WHERE should I put a texture for Visor to load it up, and IF I can use built-in ones? |
| 23:48.40 | Thiana | Ok, can someone with wow open check if they can get an item quality code of *other* than -1 with GetContainerItemInfo() please? |
| 23:49.16 | CIA-11 | 03icetrain 07Ammo * r8749 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: Forced update of mt frames are done after joining the channel instead of when the roster is loaded. |
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| 23:51.18 | Amadeo | server is offline! woohoo |
| 23:51.34 | Health | EU-Stormrage down in 10 :/ |
| 23:51.42 | Silv | ditto |
| 23:51.46 | Silv | Garona keeps crashing |
| 23:52.05 | Health | Bleh, hope it's fixed until EU tomorrow |
| 23:52.06 | Amadeo | get ready for more downtime |
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| 23:56.33 | yacoob | ...it simply doesn't work, tralalam. |
