| 00:00.40 | Tuplad | Tek: So if high mem causes gc cycles and high exec time lowers framerate, what does event & onupdate lower :o ? |
| 00:01.06 | Tek | events and updates are just the two things tS will monitor |
| 00:01.19 | Tuplad | Oh, right. |
| 00:01.25 | Tek | but they're what drive, well, all code |
| 00:01.36 | Tuplad | Aah, I see. |
| 00:01.53 | Neronix | vhaarr: Best I can get it now is 7/8ths of the time One takes, but causes 15kb garbage in 10k runs |
| 00:02.26 | Tuplad | Tek: in OnUpdate FuBar_ReagentFu is #1 and then comes Nurfed :O so they kind of lag me ? |
| 00:02.38 | vhaarr | Neronix: yeah, I didn't imagine this code could be optimized much, but the first code was very bad. |
| 00:02.39 | Tuplad | Tek: Lower my fps, I mean |
| 00:02.57 | Harem|Akama[A] | by the way tek, tS is crazy hard to read if your fubar is at the bottom of your screen and the tooltip isn't detached :P |
| 00:03.00 | Tuplad | Tek: No wait, cause GC cycles, that's it |
| 00:03.34 | Neronix | vhaarr: Your code is better |
| 00:03.49 | Neronix | no garbage, and it's only slightly slower |
| 00:03.56 | Tek | Harem... so? complain to ckk about that crap |
| 00:04.20 | vhaarr | Neronix: okay, thanks anyway |
| 00:04.25 | Tek | I didn't write FuBar, just the plugins |
| 00:04.27 | Harem | just saying how you laid it out, since the listing changes size all the time the top of the list bounces around and its hard to read whats on top |
| 00:04.28 | phyber | my tS isn;t hard to read at the bottom of the screen |
| 00:05.10 | Neronix | vhaarr: Now I just managed to make One() run in half the time |
| 00:05.38 | vhaarr | Neronix: How? |
| 00:05.52 | Tuplad | Tek: Im not complaining about it, just asking :> |
| 00:05.58 | Neronix | vhaarr: Will pastebin shortly |
| 00:06.27 | Harem | and whoever wrote BugSack has a cute sense of humour when it comes to sound effects |
| 00:06.49 | Tuplad | Tek: Oh, that was for Harem |
| 00:06.53 | Tuplad | Harem: Dude |
| 00:06.56 | Tuplad | Harem: It's from Worms |
| 00:07.13 | Harem | Tuplad: I know, I just can't help but smile when I hear it |
| 00:07.18 | Tuplad | best game evar! |
| 00:07.27 | Neronix | vhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/469 |
| 00:07.57 | Neronix | vhaarr: Wait, it doesn't work |
| 00:09.16 | Tuplad | Tek: tS is pro! |
| 00:09.21 | Tek | :P |
| 00:10.48 | Neronix | vhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/470 |
| 00:11.15 | Neronix | for 10k runs, the original func takes 0.4-0.42s and 0kb garbage |
| 00:11.47 | Neronix | This new one takes 0.26-0.28s and 1kb garbage |
| 00:11.49 | Harem | tS is awesome, I'm still figuring how to read it |
| 00:12.23 | vhaarr | Neronix: Cool :) |
| 00:12.34 | Harem | It only watches stuff when you select something to watch right? So if I'm lagging or whatever, I should switch it to one the things to watch, sort by time, and just watch the data come in? |
| 00:13.38 | Tek | it hooks when you select one, the hooks stay in place |
| 00:13.45 | Tek | only resets on a reload |
| 00:14.13 | Harem | alright, its just I get garbage events mixed in that only happen once that I don't really care about |
| 00:14.19 | Harem | which skews it a bit I guess |
| 00:14.27 | Tuplad | Well well |
| 00:14.30 | Tuplad | What's MCEH? |
| 00:14.41 | Tek | I'm considering adding a threshold for events too |
| 00:14.53 | Tek | whenever I get the options put in |
| 00:14.56 | Tuplad | MCEHEventFrame - CHAT_MSGCOMBAT_SELF_HITS x205 |
| 00:15.13 | Neronix | vhaarr: even better - http://ace.pastey.net/471 |
| 00:15.18 | Tek | no clue tup, grep your addon folder and find out |
| 00:15.20 | Neronix | 0.2-0.3s, 0kb garbage |
| 00:15.22 | Harem | Is it ok to expect 0 mem/sec? |
| 00:15.31 | Neronix | again, over 10k runs |
| 00:15.55 | Tek | 0 is a nice goal, don't expect it |
| 00:16.09 | vhaarr | Neronix: hah, good catch |
| 00:16.24 | Thrae | What's MCEH? |
| 00:16.43 | Thrae | You'll probably get at least 0.3 sometimes even with the default UI + FuBar 2.0 + PerformanceFu |
| 00:16.43 | Harem | code talk, what is an onUpdate event? |
| 00:16.57 | vhaarr | Neronix: but hm, yeah, the reason I check for ":" first is because if the reply does not contain that, we avoid 2 AceLocale calls. |
| 00:16.57 | Harem | update of what? |
| 00:17.34 | Neronix | vhaarr: Is there a chance of : not being in the reply? |
| 00:17.45 | vhaarr | Neronix: it's just sanity checking, really. |
| 00:17.51 | Tuplad | Thrae: I dont know what MCEH is either :> |
| 00:18.02 | vhaarr | Neronix: but this code is not in any critical paths anyway |
| 00:18.11 | Tuplad | Thrae: Tek says to grep addons folder |
| 00:18.16 | Neronix | Ah, go with the previous one then |
| 00:18.23 | vhaarr | Neronix: indeed, thanks |
| 00:18.26 | Neronix | np |
| 00:20.21 | Harem | nvm, wowwiki |
| 00:21.15 | vhaarr | Can I get the enUS translations from Babble somehow on a deDE client? |
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| 00:22.55 | Tuplad | Tek: After I've used tS, next time I'll think twice before saying how memory efficient an addon is >:| |
| 00:26.37 | Neronix | Biggest warrior nerf ever |
| 00:26.57 | Neronix | They took out the talent that allowed you to keep 25 rage on stance change |
| 00:27.05 | vhaarr | ckknight: Can I get the enUS translations from Babble somehow on a deDE client with AceLocale-2.0 ? |
| 00:27.15 | Neronix | Oh, nvm. It's a tier 1 prot talent now |
| 00:27.31 | Neronix | Sexcellent! |
| 00:28.09 | Neronix | 5/41/15 here we come! |
| 00:29.14 | Tuplad | Does IceHUD need ToFu to show flight timers? |
| 00:29.57 | CIA-11 | 03jncl * r9447 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: Tourist-2.0: Changed zoneInstance for Elwynn Forest to point to Stormwind City instead of itself |
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| 00:34.00 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: Version: |
| 00:34.00 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.00 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.00 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:42.18 | CIA-11 | 03jncl * r9450 10devnull/: /dev/null: Includes configurable muting for Instances and Battlegrounds and added Tourist-2.0 to externals |
| 00:44.31 | CIA-11 | 03jncl * r9451 10devnull/devnull.lua: /dev/null: third time lucky :) - Includes configurable muting for Instances and Battlegrounds and added Tourist-2.0 to externals, turn off debugging again :( |
| 00:46.57 | CIA-11 | 03jncl * r9452 10devnull/: /dev/null: correctly added Tourist-2.0 to externals |
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| 00:50.29 | Tuplad | AceTimer's KidneyShot is bugged ... it only shows 3 seconds |
| 00:51.17 | Harem | anyone know if theres a fix for omniCC for the number formatting issue? |
| 00:51.39 | Thrae | Harem: Get the latest OmniCC |
| 00:52.42 | Harem | its been updated? |
| 00:53.16 | andreasg | does oRA2 work now? |
| 00:53.20 | Thrae | Since 1.12, yes. |
| 00:53.24 | andreasg | goodie |
| 00:53.42 | Thrae | I was replying to Haerm. |
| 00:53.48 | Thrae | s/Haerm/Harem/ |
| 00:54.29 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 00:55.27 | Tuplad | andreasg: it does |
| 00:55.33 | andreasg | ok |
| 00:56.17 | ckknight | took a math test today for college |
| 00:56.20 | ckknight | and it's like, wow |
| 00:56.29 | ckknight | normal people math is so much easier. |
| 00:56.36 | andreasg | What kind of math |
| 00:56.48 | ckknight | it was Calculus |
| 00:56.59 | ckknight | but it was a lot easier than what I've had in high school |
| 00:57.50 | Harem | Thanks for all the help btw guys, sorry for all the questions |
| 00:57.56 | ckknight | alright, brb, I gotta fix the internets |
| 00:57.59 | ckknight | ~internet |
| 00:58.01 | purl | the internet is not something you can just dump on, it's not a big truck, it's a series of tubes. |
| 00:58.13 | andreasg | hey Tuplad btw :) |
| 00:58.17 | Neronix | ~whaletubes ckknight |
| 00:58.18 | purl | ACTION stuffs an incredibly flexible whale named Theodore into ckknight's tubes. ckknight's internets no worky :( |
| 00:58.20 | andreasg | what happened to that hosting stuff:P |
| 00:58.48 | andreasg | ~emulate haste |
| 00:58.50 | purl | :---------( |
| 00:59.13 | andreasg | ~emulate haste |
| 00:59.14 | purl | :---------( |
| 00:59.41 | Neronix | ~haste |
| 00:59.42 | purl | rumour has it, haste is a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo. |
| 01:00.13 | Tem | ~factinfo haste |
| 01:00.13 | purl | haste -- created by ag` <n=andreasg@209.125.3.23> at Sun Aug 20 00:25:04 2006 (9 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by Neronix, 31s ago. |
| 01:00.18 | Tem | lol |
| 01:00.36 | Neronix | It's a direct quote from one of his guildies |
| 01:00.48 | andreasg | hehe yeah |
| 01:01.02 | Tuplad | andreasghey Tuplad btw |
| 01:01.05 | andreasg | haste pasted a link to someone saying his opinon on people from his guild |
| 01:01.06 | Tuplad | andreasg: yo |
| 01:01.08 | andreasg | hu |
| 01:01.10 | andreasg | hi |
| 01:01.13 | Tuplad | andreasg: he said he's going to give you hosting |
| 01:01.24 | Tuplad | andreasg: but I left the internet for a week or 2 then |
| 01:01.42 | andreasg | ok |
| 01:01.52 | andreasg | but I'm on vacation now too |
| 01:02.04 | andreasg | so I haven't taken any action or responded |
| 01:02.04 | Tuplad | well, dont worry, I'll beat him up |
| 01:03.11 | Tek | Mikk Makk mkk Mikk Makk mkk Mikk Makk mkk Mikk Makk mkk Mikk Makk mkk Mikk Makk mkk |
| 01:04.24 | Kebinusan | Any of you see this: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3087 |
| 01:04.26 | Kebinusan | Metahud |
| 01:04.34 | Kebinusan | sort of an updated Dhud it looks like |
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| 01:05.38 | Tuplad | Kebinusan: I already said it :p |
| 01:05.41 | Tuplad | rip of |
| 01:05.42 | Tuplad | rip off* |
| 01:06.01 | maia | guys, I'd have a frame question for you: if I want to create a frame with a solid background color, why does :SetBackdropColor(r,g,b,a) not do anything? Do I always also need to specify a background texture via SetBackdrop? |
| 01:10.08 | Tuplad | Tek, Tem: Nothing on MCEHFrame :( |
| 01:10.27 | Tem | wtf is MCEHFrame? |
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| 01:12.31 | Tuplad | None of my mods have it |
| 01:12.37 | Tuplad | Google has nothing on it either |
| 01:12.40 | andreasg | maia: I think you have to give the background a texture |
| 01:12.50 | andreasg | else it won't take on a color |
| 01:13.20 | maia | andreasg: hmm. is there any texture that doesnt have visible borders? all I want is a clean box without any real textures. |
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| 01:14.16 | maia | reason for that is that I'm trying to figure out what exactly I'd need to do to place a message frame and a font string directly on top of each other, and having backdrops in different colors might help justifying them properly |
| 01:14.18 | andreasg | try |
| 01:14.29 | andreasg | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.11 | andreasg | you might want to experment with edgesize and insets, I honestly don't know what to set them to for the best result |
| 01:15.36 | andreasg | but that should give you a background for which setbackdropcolor should work |
| 01:16.13 | CIA-11 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r9453 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: |
| 01:16.13 | CIA-11 | GloryLib-2.0: |
| 01:16.13 | CIA-11 | - Possibly fixed score, bases, resources (and, by extension, TTV) functions |
| 01:16.27 | maia | thanks. |
| 01:18.44 | andreasg | maia: if you don't mind I would like to know what you find out regarding insets and edgesize |
| 01:18.55 | andreasg | how to control how big the invisible border is, etc |
| 01:19.23 | maia | andreasg: well, you code snippet worked, and as I'm not really trying to mess with borders this isnt exactly what my task is :) |
| 01:19.34 | maia | btw, back from vacation, ag? |
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| 01:19.54 | maia | andreasg: but this might help: http://www.wowwiki.com/EdgeFiles |
| 01:23.19 | andreasg | maia: no, not yet |
| 01:23.28 | andreasg | taking the plane from boston tomorrow |
| 01:23.36 | andreasg | to europe |
| 01:23.36 | maia | oh |
| 01:23.41 | maia | where to? |
| 01:23.58 | maia | nvm, you live in europe, O forgot |
| 01:24.04 | maia | s/O/I/ |
| 01:25.36 | andreasg | someone should make some cool borders |
| 01:25.44 | andreasg | like ones with dropshadows and stuff |
| 01:26.17 | Tem | hyperChipmunk, I'll test the TTV fix asap |
| 01:27.23 | Harem | is there anyway to supress the Sync Test for bigwigs? I'm trying to get people in my guild to try it and they're telling me that BigWigs is spamming them with Testing Sync and bars and such |
| 01:27.25 | Tek | PTAGORA SUUICHII! |
| 01:27.42 | Tek | delete the test module |
| 01:27.42 | Harem | I said "tell them to not be pricks" but thats not good enough :/ |
| 01:28.10 | andreasg | maia: the reason why I asked you to experiment is that using that code I gave you it might not remove borders, but give you invisible borders |
| 01:28.10 | Harem | that should work, thanks |
| 01:28.31 | Tem | Tek, Pitagora suiichi |
| 01:28.35 | maia | andreasg: its just for testing purpose anyway. |
| 01:28.41 | andreasg | ok |
| 01:28.45 | Tek | so I can't type :P |
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| 01:28.57 | Tem | Tek, no no, I was repeating it |
| 01:29.05 | Tek | whateva! |
| 01:29.07 | Tem | it's the kind of thing that has to be repeated |
| 01:29.10 | Tem | over and over |
| 01:29.12 | Tek | er... |
| 01:29.17 | Tem | ~emulate ckknight |
| 01:29.23 | purl | ACTION quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 01:29.28 | Tek | whatever-attebayo |
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| 01:30.09 | Tuplad | It's quite late, which unitframes are out there ? oUF, agUF, idUF, what else ? |
| 01:31.16 | maia | andreasg: but I agree, a library that takes care of drop shadows etc would be great. |
| 01:32.09 | andreasg | maia: unless that library would take over the frames border, it would create a background frame transparent below the frame you want to have a shadow |
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| 01:39.22 | eternally777 | Linux == Murphy's Law Incarnate. Just for the record. |
| 01:41.20 | ckknight | hehe |
| 01:44.02 | eternally777 | Are there any sites/mods out there yet that let you know which buffs stack with eachother? |
| 01:44.12 | maia | Tuplad: DAB ;p |
| 01:44.21 | maia | s/DAB/DUF/ |
| 01:49.07 | Jagobah | thottbot has info on that eternally777 |
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| 01:49.59 | Tuplad | maia: I meant Ace :D |
| 01:50.05 | maia | ;) |
| 01:50.20 | eternally777 | Jag, you're suggesting I just search for the buffs I'm curious in and read the comments to see if they stack? |
| 01:50.44 | Tem | hyperChipmunk, TTV still doesn't work |
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| 01:58.54 | maia | ckknight: still there? |
| 01:59.42 | maia | ckknight: the problem I flysprayed regarding minimap button not showing up in FubarPlugin when reenabling an addon is probably the only reason thats keeping me from releasing my addons on wowi. |
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| 02:01.12 | ckknight | :-( |
| 02:02.26 | Tain | 'flysprayed' doesn't sound like a good verb |
| 02:02.57 | maia | ckknight: because its difficult enough to explain users that "standby" is the opposite of "active" anyway ;) |
| 02:02.57 | eternally777 | Is OneBag supposed to increase your KiB/s as much as it does when you mouseover items? |
| 02:03.13 | maia | Tain: hmm. |
| 02:03.47 | ckknight | maia, the standby/active debauchle wasn't my decision |
| 02:03.59 | hyperChipmunk | debacle |
| 02:04.01 | Tain | "flysprayed" sounds like something that happens when you've been drinking a lot and stumble towards the men's room. |
| 02:05.04 | hyperChipmunk | she |
| 02:05.08 | hyperChipmunk | mis =P |
| 02:06.39 | maia | ckknight: yeah, I know. thats why I'm asking to at least bring back the minimap icon :) |
| 02:08.17 | ckknight | the issue is that I'm pretty tired |
| 02:09.26 | Kebinusan | ~whalelotto Kebinusan |
| 02:10.31 | Kebinusan | ~whalelottery Kebinusan |
| 02:10.32 | purl | ACTION launches a giant lottery ball into Kebinusan's tubes. Theodore is successfully dislodged. |
| 02:10.54 | ckknight | hehe |
| 02:11.27 | Tek | chocolate almond ice cream > all |
| 02:13.04 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r9454 10BigWigs/Version.lua: |
| 02:13.04 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: Version: |
| 02:13.04 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.04 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.05 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.05 | CIA-11 | library :) |
| 02:13.28 | XLVII | tek, do you plan to implement a database for teknicolour? |
| 02:13.32 | XLVII | i've probably already asked. |
| 02:13.36 | Tek | no |
| 02:14.45 | Tek | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/spells/30839-.html |
| 02:14.47 | Tek | hehe |
| 02:15.07 | XLVII | i need to raise #3k |
| 02:15.09 | XLVII | $3k |
| 02:15.43 | Tain | ~8ball Will we kill Skeram this time? |
| 02:15.45 | purl | Yes. |
| 02:15.52 | Tain | Yay! |
| 02:16.18 | Tem | Tek, I think that's the ability that the anubisath guardians in aq40 have |
| 02:16.21 | XLVII | tek, http://www.b-pops.com/wow/ |
| 02:18.07 | Kebinusan | ~8ball Will my server get new hardware and stop being a laggy 8086? |
| 02:18.08 | purl | Negative. |
| 02:18.20 | Kebinusan | :-( |
| 02:19.05 | Tain | The 8ball lied. |
| 02:23.53 | gnorlish | dbag 8ball |
| 02:25.34 | eternally777 | ~roulette |
| 02:25.36 | purl | ACTION watches eternally777 pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 02:25.43 | eternally777 | heh |
| 02:26.19 | XLVII | http://www.b-pops.com/wow/spell.php?id=13 |
| 02:28.16 | Jagobah | hmmm |
| 02:41.52 | Kebinusan | Anyone know a mod to auto ML boe items to a specific person |
| 02:42.51 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub 07Tekkub * r9455 10FuBar_GuildFu/GuildFu.lua: |
| 02:42.51 | CIA-11 | FuBar_GuildFu (Tekkub's branch) |
| 02:42.51 | CIA-11 | - Committing up local copy before switching to new fun version on trunk |
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| 02:44.08 | Tem | FuBar_BattlegroundFu\BattlegroundFu.lua:481: Glory-2.0: Bad argument #2 to `NodeToPOI' (out of bounds: [1, 4] expected, got 5) |
| 02:44.09 | Tem | wtf? |
| 02:44.12 | Tem | got that in AB |
| 02:44.19 | Tem | there are 5 nodes in AB |
| 02:44.24 | Tem | why are there only 4 choices? |
| 02:45.05 | Tem | ckknight_: did you see the error I just posted? |
| 02:45.18 | Tem | (glorylib is your creation, right?) |
| 02:46.24 | ckknight_ | not that part |
| 02:49.25 | Tem | Who shall I blame then? |
| 02:49.27 | Tem | hC? |
| 02:49.34 | Tem | hyperChipmunk, **poke** |
| 02:49.58 | Gamefaq | tem when you updatet battlegroundfu last time? |
| 02:50.05 | Gamefaq | because |
| 02:50.06 | Gamefaq | [03:17] <CIA-11> hyperactiveChipmunk * r9453 GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: |
| 02:50.06 | Gamefaq | [03:17] <CIA-11> GloryLib-2.0: |
| 02:50.06 | Gamefaq | [03:17] <CIA-11> - Possibly fixed score, bases, resources (and, by extension, TTV) functions |
| 02:50.07 | Tem | 20 minutes ago |
| 02:50.15 | Tem | after that message |
| 02:50.41 | Gamefaq | well then...>_< |
| 02:56.37 | Tem | ouch, that's definately a glory bug |
| 02:57.21 | Tem | for _, poi in Glory:IterateSortedObjectiveNodes() do |
| 02:57.22 | Tem | ... |
| 02:57.40 | Tem | if Glory:IsInConfict(poi) then |
| 02:57.53 | Tem | that line is the one that generates the error |
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| 03:39.39 | XLVII | who wrote that kill-libs bat file? |
| 03:42.38 | haste | no idea |
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| 03:50.40 | Voon | Hiya, anyone around to help troubleshoot an oRa problem? |
| 03:50.40 | XLVII | haste sure is ;) |
| 03:50.40 | Voon | hehe |
| 03:50.40 | XLVII | please state your question / problem and someone will help you as soon as possible |
| 03:50.40 | Voon | my issue is... wierd. I have it installed and can use the limited sub-menu for the Addon via the button around my minimap, but the raid frames are not being displayed at all :( |
| 03:50.41 | haste | >.< |
| 03:50.41 | Voon | heh |
| 03:50.41 | haste | oRA doesn't contain any raid frames, neither will it. |
| 03:50.41 | Voon | oh |
| 03:50.41 | Voon | well that explains why :P |
| 03:50.41 | Voon | What am i missing then? I thought it was a replacement for CTRA? |
| 03:50.41 | haste | It's a replacement for the background communication in CTRA |
| 03:50.41 | Voon | ah, I see |
| 03:50.42 | Voon | So I must still choose something to replace the raid frames, correct? |
| 03:50.42 | haste | Yes |
| 03:50.42 | Voon | Ok :) |
| 03:51.02 | Kebinusan | sraidframes is a good ctra look alike |
| 03:51.14 | Kebinusan | there is also perfectraid if you want something simple yet effective |
| 03:51.48 | Voon | I had seen a picture of a UI [i'm sure you've heard that :P] that Looked really nice, and I thought it was apart of oRA. The user posted what addons they had, so i'll sift through the list and see which one it was |
| 03:52.14 | XLVII | do you have the screenshot link handy? |
| 03:52.18 | haste | you can post the screen here if you want also |
| 03:52.20 | Voon | Ya, give me a sec to grab it |
| 03:52.21 | XLVII | i might be able to identify it for you. |
| 03:52.36 | Voon | http://www.ex0.biz/806/1155654147.bmp |
| 03:53.12 | Voon | guesisng Minigroup2? |
| 03:53.15 | Voon | guessing* |
| 03:53.23 | haste | It's DUF imo :p |
| 03:53.27 | Voon | orly |
| 03:53.32 | Voon | I was not aware DUF did raid |
| 03:53.38 | haste | might be DUF + agUnitFrames |
| 03:53.46 | Voon | they have the following addons listed: |
| 03:53.50 | haste | or DUF + MiniGroup2 for that matter |
| 03:53.54 | Voon | MyUnitModels |
| 03:53.55 | Voon | Discord Bars/Art/Frames |
| 03:53.55 | Voon | SW_stats |
| 03:53.55 | Voon | Sacredbuff (Serenity now) |
| 03:53.55 | Voon | Minigroup2 |
| 03:53.55 | Voon | oRA (maintank/maintankframes/ressurection/ready) |
| 03:53.56 | Voon | Bigwigs |
| 03:54.15 | haste | It's DUF + MiniGroup2 then ;) |
| 03:54.35 | XLVII | mingroup2 is no longer though. |
| 03:54.44 | XLVII | ag_uf is the 'new' replacement |
| 03:54.51 | frus`tv | ag_uf is better anyway ;) |
| 03:54.57 | XLVII | sure is, lol. |
| 03:55.04 | Voon | Which part makes you think the raid part is DUF? I realize the party frames are, i was more intrested in the look of the raid frames to the north-east corner |
| 03:55.26 | Voon | I ask only becuse i currently don't see any 'raid' type frames inside DUF |
| 03:55.45 | Voon | I'll check out ag_uf, thanks frus |
| 03:55.52 | XLVII | voon, http://svn.wowace.com/files/ag_UnitFrames-r9174.zip |
| 03:56.01 | frus | they're great |
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| 03:56.23 | Voon | ah, saves me some time, thanks |
| 03:56.25 | frus | just waiting for andreasg to add ToTT & then I'm getting them :) |
| 03:56.28 | Kyahx | boo! |
| 03:56.30 | haste | Voon: I never sid the raid part was DUF ;) |
| 03:56.32 | Kyahx | oUF > AG |
| 03:56.35 | Kyahx | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.51 | Voon | my mistake |
| 03:56.52 | haste | I said it was DUF + agUnitFrames - DUF for the party, agUF for the raid |
| 03:56.54 | Kyahx | oUF + PerfectRaid is all you ever need :P |
| 03:57.05 | frus | ag_uf + PR ;) |
| 03:57.10 | frus | or well, atm nurfed + PR ;p |
| 03:57.12 | Voon | I don't care for the look of PerfectRaid, too cluttered in one spot |
| 03:57.43 | frus | my ui is cluttered anyway, it's actually a tad less cluttered with PR ;p |
| 03:57.45 | kergoth | thats right, lets spread the clutter all over the screen instead ;) |
| 03:57.50 | Voon | http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rdxsi1.jpg <-- the clock with the other frames, such as pull setup and such. I've seen this addon in a few different screenshots, and have not been able to figure out what addon it actually is |
| 03:58.00 | frus | http://gu.frus.be/files/UI/ |
| 03:58.03 | frus | controlled mess ftw |
| 03:58.19 | Voon | it's not too bad really |
| 03:58.23 | frus | it's RDX |
| 03:58.30 | Voon | oh, ok |
| 03:58.38 | frus | no free maintained version of it afaik |
| 03:58.45 | frus | RDX6 = $$ |
| 03:58.50 | Voon | oh, I see |
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| 03:59.10 | Voon | Didn't realise developers had moved into such things o.O |
| 03:59.23 | frus | RDX is quite a story =) |
| 04:00.22 | Voon | I see you're using Detox there, is there a command to change the transperency of the background? |
| 04:00.32 | Neebler | RDX uses huge ammounts of UI memory, and it has a leak that increases UI memory by like 1mb every 60 seconds |
| 04:00.48 | frus | ye, RDX5 did at least |
| 04:01.11 | haste | RDX leaked 350 KiB/s when I tried it |
| 04:01.12 | frus | tried it for 1 raid |
| 04:01.13 | Voon | oh nm i guess you're using Squishy not Detox |
| 04:01.27 | Neebler | http://www.overratedguild.com/ for leaked rdx5 + lots of boss mods |
| 04:01.34 | Neebler | horde guild on my server :P |
| 04:02.15 | frus | and actually, after trying it out RDX ain't even that hot |
| 04:02.20 | haste | Officer Forced Logout (for AFK people) ... |
| 04:02.22 | frus | it looks cool on screenies, but that's about it :) |
| 04:02.40 | Neebler | I use rdx for thaddius, thats it |
| 04:02.55 | Neebler | for our stategy of moving left/right instead of running through |
| 04:03.08 | Neebler | strategy also |
| 04:03.59 | frus | my only pve since I quitted my guild are PUG BWL, so no problems with that ;p |
| 04:04.31 | frus | PUG BWL is fun tho ! makes it challenging again |
| 04:06.58 | XLVII | haste, does ocd also track the duration of skills / spells on mobs? |
| 04:07.14 | Kyahx | For anyone that missed it: http://www.conspiracyguild.net/downloads/LeakedTBC/ |
| 04:07.21 | Kyahx | Leaked expansion screenshots |
| 04:07.29 | XLVII | oo sweet. |
| 04:07.50 | XLVII | noggaholics does everything, lol. |
| 04:08.33 | frus | Vanished.S01E02.HDTV.XviD-XOR.avi time :) |
| 04:08.40 | frus | wtb FOX in EU ;( |
| 04:09.25 | Neebler | Just watched prison break s02e02. Kinda crappy |
| 04:09.48 | frus | ye, just watched it too, feels like it's going downhill ;( |
| 04:10.02 | frus | Vanished e01 had potential tho, so gotta try out e02 :) |
| 04:12.06 | XLVII | draenei mounts are ugly! |
| 04:12.16 | XLVII | they look like a freakin' elephant. |
| 04:13.04 | haste | XLVII: It doesn't, it's only a cooldown counter nothing else |
| 04:14.03 | XLVII | what's that addon then? |
| 04:14.12 | XLVII | i swear there was something like it. |
| 04:15.22 | Kyahx | THE ARE A FREAKING ELEPHANT |
| 04:15.27 | Kyahx | AND ELEPHANTS FUCKING RULE |
| 04:15.33 | Kyahx | k |
| 04:15.59 | haste | http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/imploot.png << popping that into an add on now |
| 04:17.18 | ckknight | dude, XLVII, don't diss elephants |
| 04:17.47 | XLVII | notice i said 'like' |
| 04:17.58 | XLVII | if they looked more 'like' one, i'd have one |
| 04:18.01 | XLVII | but they look ugly.. |
| 04:18.09 | Kebinusan | ugh |
| 04:18.12 | Kebinusan | I hate my realm |
| 04:18.20 | Kebinusan | ~whaletubes Dragonblight |
| 04:18.21 | purl | ACTION stuffs an incredibly flexible whale named Theodore into Dragonblight's tubes. Dragonblight's internets no worky :( |
| 04:18.27 | Kebinusan | ~whalelottery Dragonblight |
| 04:18.29 | purl | ACTION launches a giant lottery ball into Dragonblight's tubes. Theodore is successfully dislodged. |
| 04:18.29 | XLVII | me too, kindof. |
| 04:18.45 | ckknight | I think the elephant looks pimp |
| 04:18.59 | XLVII | the epic one probably looks better |
| 04:19.04 | XLVII | lv 40 mounts always look crap. |
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| 04:28.16 | Voon | hmm, ag_uf is throwing me a AceLibrary error :/ |
| 04:30.09 | XLVII | get !!!Libraries and it should be fine. |
| 04:30.31 | XLVII | it _should_ fix it. |
| 04:30.35 | XLVII | http://svn.wowace.com/files/%21%21%21Libraries-r9444.zip |
| 04:31.48 | XLVII | does anyone have the ToFu horde flight paths? |
| 04:34.30 | haste | can't you just fly them yourself ;D ? |
| 04:38.11 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r9456 10Squishy/ (core.lua frames.lua): Squishy: message frame now replaces the header, therefor the collapsed frame is a bit smaller. |
| 04:38.21 | Kyahx | zomg |
| 04:39.20 | Kyahx | haste: Add the casting bar spark to the timer :P |
| 04:39.28 | Kyahx | to make it all sparklylike |
| 04:39.42 | haste | Kyahx: Maybe, right now I just hack up the default one |
| 04:39.47 | Kyahx | mkay |
| 04:39.56 | Kyahx | fantastic looking thou |
| 04:39.59 | Kebinusan | haste, if only blizzards frames were that sexy |
| 04:40.01 | Kyahx | once again :P |
| 04:41.14 | XLVII | haste, i would, but there are SO many combinations |
| 04:41.18 | XLVII | and i'm only level 30 at the moment. |
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| 04:41.50 | haste | I also changed the staticpopups, but that you probably know by now :p |
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| 04:57.20 | Kyahx | dammit haste, let me steal them already :P |
| 04:57.50 | dreadlyone | no |
| 04:58.10 | dreadlyone | lol sry about that no. disregard |
| 04:58.28 | haste | Kyahx: give me a name and I'll see if I can finish it when I get home from school |
| 04:58.35 | Kyahx | hmmm |
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| 04:58.40 | Kyahx | for what? |
| 04:58.42 | haste | I use 4 hours of my day just traveling back and forth :p |
| 04:58.48 | Kyahx | oSkin! |
| 04:58.50 | haste | the staticpopups thingy |
| 04:58.52 | haste | lol :p |
| 04:59.34 | haste | but now I'm leaving |
| 05:00.33 | Kyahx | kk, care take |
| 05:17.22 | CIA-11 | 03pprovost * r9457 10FuBar_PoisonFu/FuBar_PoisonFu.toc: |
| 05:17.22 | CIA-11 | FuBar_PoisonFu: |
| 05:17.22 | CIA-11 | - Fixed typo in TOC. |
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| 05:31.02 | Voon | oh btw, Thanks XLVII. Fixed my issue :) |
| 05:31.08 | Voon | got carried away with playing with it |
| 05:36.12 | CIA-11 | 03pprovost * r9458 10FuBar_PoisonFu/Core.lua: |
| 05:36.12 | CIA-11 | FuBar_PoisonFu: |
| 05:36.12 | CIA-11 | - Yet another version of the bar text. This one looks like a keeper. |
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| 06:09.29 | Mikma | http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20060818 |
| 06:11.44 | CIA-11 | 03sinaloit * r9459 10/branches/FuBar_FuXPFu/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:11.44 | CIA-11 | FuXPFu: |
| 06:11.44 | CIA-11 | - Initial Branch for FuBar2ness, |
| 06:11.44 | CIA-11 | - Seems to be working except for when you uncheck it via the FuBar menu. Not sure whats going on there yet. |
| 06:15.48 | CIA-11 | 03sinaloit * r9460 10/branches/FuBar_FuXPFu/ (. Libs/): |
| 06:15.49 | CIA-11 | FuBar_FuXPFu: |
| 06:15.49 | CIA-11 | - Setting Externals and logtemplate |
| 06:16.29 | Mikma | http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20060207 |
| 06:16.30 | Mikma | muahahaaa |
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| 06:48.08 | CIA-11 | 03pprovost * r9461 10FuBar_PoisonFu/ (Core.lua Locale_enUS.lua): |
| 06:48.08 | CIA-11 | FuBar_PoisonFu: |
| 06:48.08 | CIA-11 | - Switches to seconds countdown when less than one minute remains on buff |
| 06:48.08 | CIA-11 | - Color coded yellow warning when a buff is getting close to expire. |
| 06:55.46 | Elkano | hmm... there isn't a page on the wiki in which order to load the libs using toc, is there? |
| 06:58.07 | Mikma | propably not |
| 06:58.14 | Mikma | which usually results n+1 errors |
| 06:58.53 | Elkano | yes, lots of FuBar plugins load FBP-2.0 before the ace2 libs and are missing eg AceOO :/ |
| 06:59.14 | Elkano | hopefully, the load order I've chosen for GuildFu & Co. is the correct one :( |
| 06:59.46 | Mikma | i had problems with Bartender2 too with the loadorder |
| 07:00.02 | Mikma | if they aren't in exact (nonlisted) order, error error! |
| 07:00.18 | Kyahx | I hate maintainence |
| 07:00.21 | Kyahx | =( |
| 07:00.26 | Mikma | right |
| 07:00.32 | Mikma | hope you'll get a 1.12.1 patch |
| 07:00.40 | Kyahx | We get new hardware thou |
| 07:00.45 | Kyahx | thats why we're already down for the night |
| 07:01.30 | Elkano | also lot's of authors don't add the stand alone versions of the libs as OptDeps :/ |
| 07:01.32 | Mikma | meh! that means 14h maintenance + more for you |
| 07:01.41 | Kyahx | I know =( |
| 07:01.50 | Kyahx | time to see other servesr that are up :P |
| 07:02.44 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i want new server hardware too :( |
| 07:02.53 | Kyahx | heh |
| 07:03.20 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Yesterday we wiped twice on razorgore |
| 07:03.32 | `-FISKER_Q\ | When we got in again the encounter was still running, without razorgore |
| 07:03.46 | `-FISKER_Q\ | And we got corpsecamped by the adds that spawn :( |
| 07:09.17 | Mikma | http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20050503 |
| 07:09.34 | Elkano | hmm... will Ace2 libs use compost if compost is loaded after ace2? |
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| 07:12.02 | ckknight | Elkano, typically they have their own internal compost |
| 07:12.14 | ckknight | thus, Compost-2.0 is unneeded and thusly unused |
| 07:15.07 | Health | Good morning |
| 07:15.31 | Health | I can't keep up with all fun addons now when I have to work! |
| 07:15.38 | Elkano | ok, if they are now all changed to use their own compost, it's fine :) |
| 07:18.16 | Elkano | btw: maybe you should add a default toc for FuBar plugins to eg the wiki. As said abouve lots of plugins load the libs in the wrong order and are missing OptDeps |
| 07:19.46 | oxman | anyone from U.S. ? |
| 07:20.24 | Mikma | http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20050601 |
| 07:20.25 | Mikma | haha :D |
| 07:20.30 | Mikma | that's freaking awesome |
| 07:20.45 | oxman | Rophy could you add an option to turn off background and border in kombatstats ? :) |
| 07:20.59 | Elkano | the looad order "AceLibrary, AceOO, AceAddon, Ace(Other), Compost, Drewdrop, Tablet, FBP, other libs" should be the correct one, or am I wrong? |
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| 07:23.14 | `-FISKER_Q\ | if an addon gets updated |
| 07:23.35 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i.e. lets say i have a direct link to http://svn.wowace.com/files/BigWigs-r9454.zip |
| 07:23.47 | `-FISKER_Q\ | and if bigwigs get updated to 9455 would that link still work? |
| 07:23.48 | Laric | Elkano I think the loading order is a bit obscure. Can't really see what order is the best one |
| 07:24.05 | Laric | fisker_q nope doesnt seem like it |
| 07:24.17 | `-FISKER_Q\ | ok thanks |
| 07:24.51 | Laric | Elkano like some libs take advantage of other libs if they are loaded before |
| 07:25.01 | Elkano | Laric, that's why I asked: in order to have ckknight check if I made a mistake |
| 07:25.32 | Laric | like metrognome works fine without compost 2.. however if compost is loaded before metrognome it will use it |
| 07:25.57 | Elkano | that's why I load compost right after ace |
| 07:26.05 | Laric | would be really nice to have a short wiki page on suggested loading order for all libs |
| 07:27.08 | Neronix | In general, AceLibrary first, compost next if you use it, AceOO, AceEvent and then other stuff |
| 07:28.03 | Elkano | well since ace shouldn't need compost and compost has listed ace as OptDep I now tend to load all ace first |
| 07:30.16 | Laric | Elkano but isnt that just acelibrary so it can become a real nice ace lib? |
| 07:31.36 | Mikma | http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20050809 |
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| 07:47.24 | Mikma | http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20051209 |
| 07:47.27 | Mikma | dance monkey |
| 07:50.13 | ckknight | I don't get the humor |
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| 07:52.46 | FISKER_Q | anyone know if there's a script command to hide the objectives tracker in a BG? |
| 07:55.01 | Mikma | ckknight: orly? |
| 07:55.08 | Mikma | ~steveballmer |
| 07:55.16 | purl | steveballmer is probably "<action> roars "I'll f*cking KILL mikma!" |
| 07:55.29 | Mikma | mm |
| 07:55.33 | ckknight | don't use quotes |
| 07:55.36 | Mikma | ~literal steveballmer |
| 07:55.38 | purl | "steveballmer" is ""<action> ( throws a chair at $nick | bounces on $nick screaming, "DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS!!"| dances on $nick while screaming, "I. LOVE. THIS. COMPANY!!"| throws an AL at $nick screaming, COMPETITIONCOMPETITIONCOMPETITON!! | roars "I'll f*cking KILL $nick!" | dances like a monkey ontop of $nick)" |
| 07:55.40 | Mikma | i haven't edited that one |
| 07:56.10 | Mikma | purl: no, steveballmer is <action> ( throws a chair at $nick | bounces on $nick screaming, "DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS!!"| dances on $nick while screaming, "I. LOVE. THIS. COMPANY!!"| throws an AL at $nick screaming, COMPETITIONCOMPETITIONCOMPETITON!! | roars "I'll f*cking KILL $nick!" | dances like a monkey ontop of $nick) |
| 07:56.11 | purl | Mikma: okay |
| 07:56.16 | Mikma | ~steveballmer |
| 07:56.17 | purl | ACTION bounces on mikma screaming, "DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS!!" |
| 07:56.36 | evl | Lua isn't case sensitive? |
| 07:56.38 | ckknight | I still don't get the humor of the comic. |
| 07:56.41 | ckknight | evl, it is |
| 07:56.58 | evl | oh, maybe just the code I'm looking at using funny casing |
| 07:57.02 | Mikma | ckknight: to be honest me neither but i do know stevbe is stupid :) |
| 07:57.14 | evl | is there some coding practice with camelCase vs AllLetterCaps? |
| 07:57.25 | FISKER_Q | ~emulate steveballmer |
| 07:57.50 | ckknight | yes, evl |
| 07:57.59 | FISKER_Q | :( |
| 07:58.04 | FISKER_Q | ~steveballmer |
| 07:58.05 | purl | ACTION throws an AL at fisker_q screaming, COMPETITIONCOMPETITIONCOMPETITON!! |
| 07:58.25 | evl | ckknight: anywhere I can read about it? |
| 07:58.27 | ckknight | PascalCase is typically for methods, objects, classes, etc. |
| 07:58.36 | Mikma | ~literal tryme |
| 07:58.38 | purl | "tryme" is "<action>spins the revolver, points it at ($nick|$nick|$nick|$nick|$nick|$randnick) and fires. (Click.|Click.|Click.|Click.|Click.|BANG!|A whale named Theodore who is the size of a small country flies into the target's face)" |
| 07:58.38 | ckknight | camelCase for most everything else |
| 07:58.49 | Mikma | ~literal mikmatest |
| 07:58.50 | purl | "mikmatest" is "<reply> 4Pretty!" |
| 07:59.10 | Mikma | purl: no, mikmatest is <reply> $lastnick: test |
| 07:59.13 | purl | Mikma: okay |
| 07:59.17 | Mikma | ~mikmatest |
| 07:59.19 | purl | $lastnick: test |
| 07:59.27 | Mikma | purl: no, mikmatest is <reply> $lastname: test |
| 07:59.28 | purl | Mikma: okay |
| 07:59.30 | Mikma | ~mikmatest |
| 07:59.31 | purl | $lastname: test |
| 07:59.35 | Mikma | damnit |
| 07:59.49 | Mikma | i can't remember what was the correct word for it |
| 08:01.32 | Mikma | purl: no, mikmatest is <reply> $lastspeaker: test |
| 08:01.33 | purl | okay, Mikma |
| 08:01.38 | Mikma | ~mikmatest |
| 08:01.40 | purl | Mikma: test |
| 08:02.46 | Mikma | ~steveballmer ckknight |
| 08:02.48 | purl | ACTION throws a chair at ckknight |
| 08:03.36 | evl | ckknight: in the code I'm reading (oCD) I see things like "this:StopMovingOrSizing()" and "self:savePosition()" directly beneath eachother, I supposed this == self and from what you are saying the same practices in C# are also in LUA (methods, get/setters, classes, objects in AllCaps, variables in camelCase) |
| 08:05.17 | Mikma | evl: self is ace2'd version of this, i think :D |
| 08:06.00 | evl | My coding style is really strict so I'd like it to follow the common standard :) |
| 08:09.04 | kergoth | evl: this and self are not synonymous. self is passed to methods when you call them with :. this is a global which gets set to the current frame, in things like events |
| 08:09.32 | kergoth | they could be the same, but only if you're calling methods on the frame, and not, say, your addon's main table |
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| 08:17.37 | Mikma | http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20040402 |
| 08:18.18 | evl | There isn't a a pattern class for word boundaries? |
| 08:19.01 | Neebler | http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ssotd/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=504&Set=0 |
| 08:19.02 | Neebler | eep |
| 08:20.59 | ckknight | evl, this is not self |
| 08:21.31 | ckknight | evl, we didn't choose self and this |
| 08:23.25 | ckknight | Senor plow no es macho es solamente un guracho |
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| 08:36.28 | FISKER_Q | btw ckknight you know why there's a delay in the frameadjustment sometimes? |
| 08:38.09 | Laric | maia are you here? |
| 08:39.36 | vhaarr | Just tabcomplete the names, it's alot simpler than reading 68 nicks. |
| 08:40.18 | kergoth | plowking really needs to automatically move them around as their sizes change |
| 08:40.23 | kergoth | the way it is now really isnt workable |
| 08:45.32 | Fritti | hey all |
| 08:45.51 | vhaarr | hey |
| 08:46.03 | vhaarr | Fritti: Did you fix OnUpdate errors with BugSack yet, btw? |
| 08:46.25 | Fritti | hmm, what OnUpdate errors? |
| 08:46.34 | Fritti | you mean dropping repeats? |
| 08:46.36 | vhaarr | Fritti: When some mod spews out a error every OnUpdate, BugSack pretty much spams the chat frame to infinitiy. |
| 08:46.40 | vhaarr | yes |
| 08:46.46 | Fritti | no, didn't get around to coding that yet |
| 08:46.54 | Fritti | didn't get around to playing WoW much at all :-/ |
| 08:46.59 | vhaarr | :/ |
| 08:47.09 | Fritti | I had time last wednesday |
| 08:47.17 | Fritti | but then they fucked up the patch delivery until late night |
| 08:47.26 | Fritti | (.ue) |
| 08:47.29 | Fritti | s/ue/eu/ |
| 08:47.29 | vhaarr | what else is new |
| 08:47.42 | Fritti | I think I'll have some time tomorrow |
| 08:53.43 | Fritti | btw, is the svn closed now? it's still possible to go to e.g. http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/SCT |
| 08:57.23 | phyber | good morning. |
| 08:58.00 | phyber | Fritti: you can still browse the SVN like that, yes. |
| 08:58.56 | phyber | ckknight, Tekkub, you guys tricked me. |
| 08:59.05 | phyber | people won't stop bitching when they can't fix their shit |
| 08:59.13 | phyber | When I have nametogglefu, moneyfu, or bagfu enabled SCT-Damage does not work and Big Wigs gives me error messages. Both of these other mods are Ace2 mods and I do have the latest versions of the fu-mods mentioned. I love your mods please make them work with these others. |
| 08:59.20 | phyber | great bug report, asshat! |
| 08:59.34 | vhaarr | lol |
| 08:59.39 | Fritti | lol |
| 08:59.54 | Fritti | phyber: but that's "the svn" right? i.e. svn ls http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/SCT works |
| 09:00.19 | vhaarr | "the svn" ? |
| 09:00.37 | vhaarr | Yes, it is the wowace SVN. |
| 09:00.44 | Fritti | as in, cladhaire was going to disable anonymous checkout? |
| 09:00.48 | vhaarr | yes |
| 09:00.52 | Fritti | I'm just saying I don't think it is disabled yet? |
| 09:01.51 | phyber | i think the idea is to keep ti enabled but try to make people download the .zip files instead. |
| 09:01.53 | yacoob | phyber: well, you have the symptoms. "gives him error messages". Well said :) |
| 09:01.56 | Fritti | ah, ok |
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| 09:02.03 | evl | ckknight: Besides using IsInAlteracValley in Glory, would ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA be a good event to turn on and off my mod? |
| 09:02.45 | vhaarr | evl: ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA is probably what you want, yes. |
| 09:03.10 | vhaarr | then just |if GetRealZoneText() == "Alterac Valley" then| for enUS. |
| 09:04.36 | yacoob | hm, interesting thing. Perl Classic is said to be optimized for performance. And their 3d portraits are also well coded? :) |
| 09:06.24 | yacoob | BTW, anyone uses perl frames here? |
| 09:06.33 | evl | vhaarr: or use glory:IsInBattleGrounds() :) |
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| 09:07.48 | evl | ckknight: event suggestions for Glory: ENTER/EXIT_BATTLEGROUNDS? |
| 09:11.42 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2001.msg38643.html#msg38643 |
| 09:11.46 | Mikma | Neebler: not like that :( |
| 09:12.13 | evl | 6,5 million subscribers; someone can afford to upgrade their "#¤%&#¤%#% laggy servers |
| 09:13.06 | evl | Selling a mod is asking for your account and website to be closed. |
| 09:13.11 | yacoob | but of course they can. They just won't. |
| 09:13.30 | evl | Blizzard has a zero tolerance EULA violation policy |
| 09:13.45 | evl | as we've seen with x^y glider/bot/dll interfaces |
| 09:14.06 | haste | :D |
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| 09:14.30 | Mikma | but the thing is that's only made in .lua/xml :P |
| 09:14.43 | evl | haste: giev your new xpbarnone hack :/ |
| 09:14.47 | Mikma | but my point was needler talking about ctra2 in wowace forums |
| 09:15.00 | haste | evl: eep? |
| 09:15.12 | evl | haste: the blue lightsaber flavored one? ;) |
| 09:15.30 | haste | evl: FuXPFu |
| 09:15.30 | evl | Ooooh |
| 09:15.35 | evl | new shineys |
| 09:15.48 | Mikma | :) |
| 09:15.59 | evl | haste: you've worked a bit with CandyBar on your mods, is there a way to remove all bars in a group? |
| 09:15.59 | Mikma | "new" and "new" |
| 09:16.16 | Mikma | someone should mod mendy and fuxpfu to ace2 |
| 09:16.23 | Mikma | then i can remove ace1 from my comp |
| 09:17.14 | haste | Mikma: someone should fix MrPlow, so it doesn't spawn errors at login |
| 09:17.17 | haste | that's more important imo :p |
| 09:17.27 | yacoob | haste: mine doesn't :) |
| 09:17.33 | haste | evl: not sure |
| 09:17.36 | haste | yacoob: do you use FuBar2? |
| 09:17.39 | Mikma | haste: wobin should! |
| 09:17.44 | yacoob | I sure do. |
| 09:17.47 | Mikma | purl: seen wobin |
| 09:17.52 | purl | wobin is currently on #gnu-kbsd, last said: 'prbably not important :)'. |
| 09:17.56 | haste | then why does mine pop errors :p ? |
| 09:18.02 | evl | haste: I'm finishing that BG Timers mod I was talking about the other week, I only need to be able to remove all the bars when you change zones and i'm home free |
| 09:18.05 | Mikma | Tekkub: where is your version of devnull? |
| 09:18.07 | haste | ~seen [Wobin] |
| 09:18.08 | purl | [wobin] <i=Wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 18d 27m 27s ago, saying: '"I'm cheap. And Fun"'. |
| 09:18.20 | yacoob | haste: well, what error is it? |
| 09:18.28 | haste | yacoob: something with .data :p |
| 09:18.30 | yacoob | Babble-lib, by any chance? |
| 09:18.42 | haste | why would Mr. Plow use that? |
| 09:19.18 | haste | evl: well, you can iterate through all the timers and remove yours tho' |
| 09:21.05 | haste | [2006/08/29 11:16:53-70]: FuBarPlugin\FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua:1340: attempt to index field `data' (a nil value) |
| 09:21.12 | haste | I haven't cared to look into it yet tho' :p |
| 09:26.20 | phyber | do you need fubar-compat-1.2? |
| 09:27.35 | haste | I was to lazy to download the libs it needed |
| 09:27.48 | haste | so I just grabbed compat-1.2 since it contained them |
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| 09:41.36 | FtH|eagle | hi |
| 09:54.45 | CIA-11 | 03werehamster * r9462 10HealSync/HealSync.lua: |
| 09:54.45 | CIA-11 | HealSync: |
| 09:54.46 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:00.06 | Mikma | i think i found a part reason why the shapeshift fucks up |
| 10:00.13 | Gngsk | do tell! |
| 10:00.24 | Mikma | there's some sort of checkcode which prevents the buttons from changing :) |
| 10:04.17 | Mikma | hmm |
| 10:05.39 | Mikma | if i have a file called BonusActionBarFrame.xml and there i have <Script file="BonusActionBarFrame.lua"/> , <CheckButton name="BonusActionButtonTemplate" inherits="ActionBarButtonTemplate" virtual="true">, and this.inTransition = nil .... What does the "this" mean actually? |
| 10:06.04 | Fritti | Mikma: depends on the event |
| 10:06.29 | Fritti | 'this' is the frame in the user interface that an event was fired for (if I understand things correctly) |
| 10:07.03 | Fritti | so e.g. in the :OnClick handler 'this' would be the button that is clicked |
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| 10:08.35 | Mikma | pretty hard actually to find out the reason why this code bugs :P |
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| 10:10.27 | Laric | this = current frame and self = current class almost :P |
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| 10:14.42 | CIA-11 | 03moonsorrow * r9463 10BabbleLib/Babble-Zone-2.0/Babble-Zone-2.0.lua: |
| 10:14.42 | CIA-11 | Babble-Zone: |
| 10:14.42 | CIA-11 | - fix ger translation for blasted lands |
| 10:14.55 | Cheads | hi |
| 10:15.27 | haste | hello |
| 10:16.11 | Mikma | *RAWR* |
| 10:16.29 | haste | OMG bear! |
| 10:16.36 | Fritti | *cower* |
| 10:16.38 | Mikma | Victory! |
| 10:16.49 | Mikma | no really, i'm losing my mind because of this stupid bug |
| 10:16.55 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 10:16.56 | Mikma | s/bug/updatebug/ |
| 10:17.21 | FtH|eagle | morning ammo |
| 10:19.33 | Mikma | why do the fuckers always change the code around and prevent old code from working |
| 10:21.31 | haste | Mikma: lern2read diffs |
| 10:22.17 | CIA-11 | 03moonsorrow * r9464 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Heigan.lua: |
| 10:22.17 | CIA-11 | BigWigs (Heigan): |
| 10:22.17 | CIA-11 | - starttrigger2 updated for ger locale |
| 10:22.50 | CIA-11 | 03moonsorrow * r9465 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: |
| 10:22.50 | CIA-11 | BigWigs (Thaddius): |
| 10:22.50 | CIA-11 | - many ger locales updated |
| 10:23.38 | Mikma | haste: so what was the page for wowinterface.com patch differences? |
| 10:23.52 | FtH|eagle | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 10:25.09 | Mikma | didn't help in this case |
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| 10:25.52 | Mikma | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/detail/11205595/live/30 |
| 10:26.05 | Mikma | i don't see anything that can have broken the swap |
| 10:28.01 | haste | maybe the error has been there all the time :o ? |
| 10:28.44 | Mikma | don't think so |
| 10:28.51 | haste | I'm so addicted to this song --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol4h182FkFA |
| 10:29.01 | Mikma | i did play my druid to lvl46 with Bartender2 and 1.11 patch |
| 10:29.06 | Mikma | and never had the problem |
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| 10:46.58 | evl | haste: i reckon you've fiddeled quite a bit with your own custom bottom art, how do you lay the textures out; with <Texture> or <Background>. I'm, currently using Texture with alphaMode=ALPHAKEY but i don't know if that's very efficient. |
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| 10:48.59 | Kyahx | *yawn* |
| 10:49.02 | Kyahx | its sleeping time now |
| 10:49.22 | Kyahx | I've started stealing haste's ui by writing it myself :P |
| 10:49.23 | Kyahx | http://www.hybrid-fusion.com/~pots/Images/kyUI/kyUI%20Preview%2008.29.06.jpg |
| 10:49.56 | haste | haha |
| 10:49.59 | evl | Kyahx: you need alphaMode=ALPHAKEY :) |
| 10:50.05 | Kyahx | what is that? |
| 10:50.11 | haste | I'm actually popping it into a file now :p |
| 10:50.15 | Kyahx | psh |
| 10:50.50 | yacoob | Kyahx: everything done by yourself, or did you use any other mods? :) |
| 10:51.05 | evl | haste: as long as I get that file I'm happy ;) |
| 10:51.45 | Kyahx | yacoob: well, kinda both. :P |
| 10:53.25 | Kyahx | but haste, have you made a custom chat edit box? bwahahaha |
| 10:53.35 | Kyahx | :P |
| 10:54.15 | evl | I use ChatBox, has the same functions and some more goodies |
| 10:54.27 | Kyahx | no it dosent! |
| 10:55.36 | Gngsk | http://www.hybrid-fusion.com/~pots/Images/PotsIRL.jpg |
| 10:55.37 | Gngsk | :O |
| 10:55.42 | Kyahx | haha |
| 10:55.49 | Kyahx | :) |
| 10:55.53 | Gngsk | hehe |
| 10:56.33 | Kyahx | this is the winner: http://www.hybrid-fusion.com/~pots/Images/lewtz.JPG |
| 10:57.29 | Gngsk | my sword |
| 10:58.05 | Kyahx | christ is 6am |
| 10:58.10 | Kyahx | im going to take a god damn nap |
| 10:58.22 | Gngsk | heh, I said that last night at 3am and missed my raid :\ |
| 10:58.31 | Gngsk | er, afternoon, 3pm |
| 10:58.44 | Kyahx|afk | well, my raid isnt for a good 12 hours :P |
| 10:58.58 | Gngsk | yea, that's how long I 'napped' for... |
| 11:00.38 | haste | you're like me then, I can turn of almost any type of alarm in my sleep |
| 11:01.01 | haste | now I use a crontab to wake me up :p |
| 11:01.07 | haste | each day at 05:30 |
| 11:01.18 | [Ammo] | ugh |
| 11:01.25 | [Ammo] | and I thought I was up early today |
| 11:01.37 | [Ammo] | had theory exam for drivers license :) |
| 11:01.38 | [Ammo] | 0 mistakes. |
| 11:01.49 | haste | you would have failed in norway! |
| 11:01.54 | haste | well, maybe not, but still |
| 11:02.59 | Gngsk | yea, raid was at 6:30pm, set alarm for 5:45, must've turned it off as I don't remember even waking up |
| 11:03.02 | yacoob | [Ammo]: it's practice that's fsckd up :) |
| 11:03.12 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 11:03.23 | yacoob | (failed last Thursday :) |
| 11:03.51 | tumetom | drivers license in NOrway?? elk from the left..elk from the right... elk behind you.. infront of you etc. |
| 11:04.22 | evl | more like |
| 11:04.50 | evl | [63+]Norwegian Weather's Wind Snow Thunder Ice Lightning crits you for 999999999 |
| 11:04.51 | [Ammo] | I failed 5 years ago or so |
| 11:04.56 | [Ammo] | then ran out of cash |
| 11:05.56 | yacoob | [Ammo]: well, I tried first time as soon as I could - 9 years ago. And failed. Now, trying again :) |
| 11:05.59 | tumetom | pff.. Norwegian Weather's a noob :-P |
| 11:07.52 | Mikma | ok now |
| 11:08.15 | Mikma | i got so pissed about this freaking shapeshift barswap bug that i started to code my own barswap :) |
| 11:08.29 | snurre | wtb it working for warrs to |
| 11:08.31 | snurre | too* |
| 11:08.37 | Mikma | it will, sure in hell :) |
| 11:08.44 | evl | haste: any universal answer to my texture/background thingy question? :) |
| 11:08.51 | Mikma | all i need to do is test it for all shapeshift classes |
| 11:08.59 | Mikma | "shapeshift" |
| 11:09.07 | Mikma | paladin, rogue, warrior |
| 11:09.45 | Gngsk | paladin have shapeshift forms? |
| 11:09.54 | Gngsk | like, when they change auras their action buttons shift? |
| 11:10.03 | Mikma | i'm not sure to be honest |
| 11:10.16 | Mikma | that's why i need to test it :) |
| 11:10.30 | Gngsk | i don't think the action buttons shift, I think they just have a bonus action bar with auras on it |
| 11:10.54 | Mikma | well then there's a problem |
| 11:12.23 | [Ammo] | bartender2 worked fine with my pally yesterday |
| 11:12.27 | [Ammo] | no changes needed |
| 11:12.34 | Gngsk | yea, I'm using it on my lvl 16 paladin atm, it's fine |
| 11:13.21 | Mikma | [Ammo]: yeah but i'm doing some "huge makeover" for the actionbar-swapping :) |
| 11:13.31 | Mikma | i need to be sure it works for all classes |
| 11:13.50 | Mikma | atleast it works now for druid and rogue |
| 11:14.12 | Mikma | now i'll test it with warrior too |
| 11:14.12 | haste | evl: I don't see it |
| 11:14.22 | haste | evl: the bg question that is |
| 11:14.27 | evl | haste: i reckon you've fiddeled quite a bit with your own custom bottom art, how do you lay the textures out; with <Texture> or <Background>. I'm, currently using Texture with alphaMode=ALPHAKEY but i don't know if that's very efficient. |
| 11:14.35 | evl | there you have it, in slow motion! |
| 11:14.37 | Mikma | oh mofo! i need to get a druid with moonkin form |
| 11:14.51 | haste | evl: I don't use a texture |
| 11:15.14 | haste | evl: or I do use 'texture', but it's all created with lua :p |
| 11:15.17 | haste | and no external art |
| 11:15.24 | evl | haste: giev? |
| 11:15.32 | haste | but you might want to take a look at XArt if you want to use textures |
| 11:15.36 | haste | sure |
| 11:15.46 | haste | http://pastey.net/418 |
| 11:15.55 | evl | nice, thanks :) |
| 11:16.15 | evl | so small, so sexy |
| 11:16.20 | evl | almost like asian schoolgirl |
| 11:16.23 | evl | woooot! |
| 11:16.50 | evl | haste: BTW; Pumping Ergo Proxy like there was no tomorrow now, looks very good from the video you sent me + youtube snips |
| 11:17.07 | haste | Ergo Proxy is pretty cool |
| 11:17.15 | haste | Quite strange in the start :p |
| 11:17.46 | evl | I reckon you don't know more japanse than I know nynorsk, can you recommend any subbed releases? I found something form Shinsen Subs |
| 11:18.18 | Cheads | uhmm is there some script command you can use to reset instances...? |
| 11:20.06 | [Ammo] | you could probably call the function blizzard calls on the reset button |
| 11:20.22 | [Ammo] | with /script SomeNasty_Blizzard_function() |
| 11:20.52 | haste | Shinsen is the best you can get, but they are slow as hell.. Grab what you can of SS then go over to Pino-no-Usagi |
| 11:21.14 | haste | /script ResetInstance() |
| 11:21.15 | evl | Thanks, will log that |
| 11:21.22 | haste | /script ResetInstances() * |
| 11:21.40 | CIA-11 | 03joshborke * r9466 10Borked_Monitor/ (8 files): |
| 11:21.40 | CIA-11 | Borked_Monitor: |
| 11:21.40 | CIA-11 | - renamed files |
| 11:21.40 | CIA-11 | - updated to 1.12 |
| 11:21.49 | haste | the old Invite the LeaveParty() hack was removed in 1.10 |
| 11:21.53 | haste | then* |
| 11:22.39 | CIA-11 | 03joshborke * r9467 10/tags/Borked_Monitor-0.4-11200/: Borked_Monitor: tagging for 0.4-11200 release |
| 11:23.06 | Thrae | Not really necessary anymore since you can reset the instance manually |
| 11:23.08 | Thrae | g'morning |
| 11:23.24 | Gngsk | heya |
| 11:23.38 | haste | Thrae: well, you can't reset an instance your are inside so |
| 11:25.31 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r9468 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua: Bartender2: EXPERIMENTAL BarSwap, Please report to Mikma how it works |
| 11:25.33 | Mikma | there ya go! |
| 11:25.44 | Mikma | test it with ALL classes and report to me does the actionbar update properly |
| 11:26.06 | Mikma | i need to do a smart check on it too :P some people may use different actionbarpages than 1 when they play |
| 11:30.33 | Health | BarSwap such as? Swap bars based on conditions? |
| 11:30.55 | Mikma | based on shapeshift/stance |
| 11:31.10 | Mikma | it was way too much bugged but i managed to fix it with that experimental code :P |
| 11:31.22 | Mikma | atleast works for Rogues, Druids, and Warriors now perfectly |
| 11:31.28 | Mikma | will test shaman too later today |
| 11:33.16 | evl | I'm a bit confused over the docs and nothing is stated in the tutorials: When do I use OnEnable and when do I use OnInitialize? |
| 11:33.16 | CIA-11 | 03joshborke * r9469 10HealWatch/Libs/: HealWatch: added externals |
| 11:33.37 | Cheads | thanks [Ammo] and haste |
| 11:34.04 | haste | this is cool |
| 11:34.21 | haste | function oSkin:StaticPopup_Show(a1, a2, a3, a4) self.hooks["StaticPopup_Show"].orig(a1, a2, a3, a4) end, |
| 11:34.29 | haste | that one breaks StaticPopups :p |
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| 11:36.00 | Moondrake | hi guys and girls |
| 11:39.38 | yacoob | Hmm. |
| 11:39.45 | yacoob | Anyone using skillplusfu? |
| 11:42.47 | CIA-11 | 03otravi * r9470 10oSkin/ (7 files in 2 dirs): oSkin - Initial import. |
| 11:43.46 | tumetom | is it possible to ignore externals while updating? |
| 11:44.23 | FISKER_Q | ooooooh |
| 11:44.28 | FISKER_Q | we're getting an hardware upgrade as well |
| 11:45.14 | haste | tumetom: yes |
| 11:45.31 | haste | tumetom: svn up --ignore-externals if you are a console junky |
| 11:45.47 | tumetom | no Im a tortoise windows junky |
| 11:46.26 | FtH|eagle | oskin? what's that? |
| 11:47.36 | CIA-11 | 03otravi * r9471 10oSkin/ (GroupLootFrame.lua StaticPopup.lua core.lua libs/ oSkin.toc): oSkin - externals and eol-style. |
| 11:47.49 | evl | tumetom: select folder(s) | TortoiseSVN | Update to Revision... | [o] HEAD & [x] Ignore externals | Ok |
| 11:47.51 | Gngsk | haste's latest pr0n |
| 11:47.59 | haste | FtH|eagle: http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/imploot.png and http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/impstatic.png |
| 11:48.03 | tumetom | thx |
| 11:48.19 | FtH|eagle | nice |
| 11:48.22 | FtH|eagle | will try that out :) |
| 11:48.27 | Gngsk | haste, epic tigerseye! |
| 11:48.39 | haste | Gngsk: yeh, I wanted to see if the color changed correctly :p |
| 11:49.01 | haste | and it's only tested in RFC, so let me know if it works |
| 11:49.03 | tumetom | thx evl |
| 11:49.41 | evl | tumetom: you should also check my guide for improving TortoiseSVN performance on the Wiki |
| 11:49.54 | evl | expect a BIG performance increase for normal explorer operatiins |
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| 11:50.57 | yacoob | haste: oh, nice. |
| 11:51.04 | Gngsk | haste, will do |
| 11:51.38 | haste | I'm not posting it on the forums untill I know it works as intended :p |
| 11:52.09 | Gngsk | that's why I idle in irc :D |
| 11:52.31 | evl | Ahhh, the good life |
| 11:52.46 | Gngsk | any plans on beautifying the blizz readycheck frame? |
| 11:53.06 | evl | Slow day at work, eBay josteling with stuff I don't need and the US are bombing the dollar to 6.5NOK :D Shopping spreeeeee"! |
| 11:53.19 | snurre | nerf |
| 11:53.22 | FtH|eagle | haste: does it change the loot frame too? |
| 11:53.29 | haste | FtH|eagle: yes |
| 11:53.31 | haste | Gngsk: nope |
| 11:53.36 | FtH|eagle | ok .) |
| 11:54.14 | Gngsk | hmm, I prefer the oRA style raready frame, but my raid leader's stopped using /raready in favor of /readycheck |
| 11:54.32 | FISKER_Q | looks hot haste |
| 11:54.38 | tumetom | evl thx |
| 11:54.43 | FISKER_Q | does it fuck up any addons? :P |
| 11:54.54 | haste | FISKER_Q: not that I know of yet :p |
| 11:55.16 | evl | Gngsk: make a patch that AceHook's ReadyCheck? :) |
| 11:55.20 | haste | Gngsk: I NEVER see the default one so :p |
| 11:55.28 | Gngsk | bah! |
| 11:56.14 | FISKER_Q | gonna try it out now |
| 11:56.19 | tumetom | evl do you have an url? |
| 11:56.30 | Gngsk | hmm, qiraji bindings of command just chillin' in the bank |
| 11:56.33 | FISKER_Q | if it's not good enough you're not 1337 enough for molten core |
| 11:56.33 | tumetom | just found |
| 11:56.35 | Gngsk | should prolly get some idols/scarabs |
| 11:56.35 | Cheads | is it just me or doesn't bigwigs save the anchor points .. if you disable the mod and enable it again later it's reset to the default position |
| 11:56.49 | evl | tumetom: http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/What_is_the_SVN%3F#Improving_TortoiseSVN_performance |
| 11:59.27 | FISKER_Q | "disable" how? |
| 11:59.53 | FISKER_Q | if the addon is disabled from the addons menu the savedvariables are flushed the next time you log on |
| 12:00.02 | evl | I'm a bit confused over the docs and nothing is stated in the tutorials: When do I use OnEnable and when do I use OnInitialize? |
| 12:00.26 | FISKER_Q | so haste what does oskin replace right now? |
| 12:00.51 | haste | FISKER_Q: GroupLootFrame and StaticPopups |
| 12:00.58 | haste | and it doesn't replace, it just remaps the old one |
| 12:01.00 | Cheads | FISKER_Q but other mods are able to remeber various positions |
| 12:01.38 | vhaarr | evl: they're not "used", they are invoked by Ace |
| 12:02.14 | vhaarr | evl: OnInitialize is invoked at ADDON_LOADED and OnEnabled on PLAYER_LOGIN. |
| 12:02.38 | evl | Where's the difference? addon loaded is invoked everytime you reaload the ui? |
| 12:03.04 | vhaarr | wowwiki.com |
| 12:03.28 | vhaarr | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Ace2 |
| 12:03.35 | Elkano^wtf | well, you are able to disable and reenable addons |
| 12:06.15 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: I think the Version module is pretty much done now. |
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| 12:07.04 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:07.06 | haste | vhaarr: does it give a count now? |
| 12:07.13 | vhaarr | A count? |
| 12:07.15 | haste | like X with version Y |
| 12:07.32 | vhaarr | No, it just lists the players and their version. |
| 12:08.42 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: I'll check it out |
| 12:08.58 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: cool |
| 12:09.05 | Health | Is there always too many sounds played at Onyxia? Sound warning in Big Wigs doesn't at all work there. |
| 12:10.55 | [Ammo] | it uses the exact same stuff the other modules use |
| 12:10.58 | FISKER_Q | HAH! |
| 12:11.01 | FISKER_Q | found first bug :P |
| 12:11.37 | FISKER_Q | [2006/08/29 14:10:51-13]: FrameXML\StaticPopup.lua:101: Usage: AcceptBattlefieldPort(index, accept) |
| 12:12.25 | evl | vhaarr: ah thanks, I found it on the Ace1 doc s:) |
| 12:12.34 | FISKER_Q | got a flyspray for oskin yet? .p |
| 12:12.37 | FISKER_Q | :P* |
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| 12:15.32 | haste | FISKER_Q: I don't use Flyspray, so not much help there :p |
| 12:15.46 | haste | FISKER_Q: but tell me what you did now :p |
| 12:15.56 | Gngsk | haste prefers 50+ page threads on the forums |
| 12:16.35 | FISKER_Q | just tried to enter Arathi Basin |
| 12:16.48 | FISKER_Q | the "Enter Battle" button didn't work |
| 12:17.24 | haste | hokai |
| 12:17.30 | haste | I doesn't like my hook for some reason :p |
| 12:28.39 | evl | haste: lol http://www.killbuljo.com/movie.html |
| 12:29.41 | haste | evl: yeh, seen it before ;) |
| 12:29.59 | evl | haste: i like the end quote: "shhh kjerring. mindre snakk, mer puling" |
| 12:30.19 | snurre | altaværinger :( |
| 12:31.01 | haste | hehe |
| 12:31.37 | CIA-11 | 03moonsorrow 07Ammo * r9472 10oRA2/oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: |
| 12:31.37 | CIA-11 | oRA2 (L-Invite): |
| 12:31.37 | CIA-11 | - added german locales, now invite keyword is working |
| 12:35.25 | vhaarr | evl: haha, excellent |
| 12:39.59 | CIA-11 | 03otravi * r9473 10oSkin/StaticPopup.lua: oSkin - Fixed the StaticPopups. |
| 12:40.26 | haste | FISKER_Q: think I fixed it :p |
| 12:47.05 | FISKER_Q | ok :) |
| 12:48.30 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r9474 10oRA2/oRA2/ (Libs/ Options.lua oRA2.toc): oRA2: Fuplugin, drycoded, and blatantly ripped from BigWigs. |
| 12:53.06 | [Ammo] | 1 more level on my noob pally for hammer of wrath yay |
| 12:53.38 | Fritti | what level do you get that? I was 60 when they introduced that |
| 12:53.46 | Thrae | I think 40. |
| 12:54.05 | [Ammo] | 44 |
| 12:55.51 | Thrae | Heh, Blizzard finally released Talent and Spell previews as they've been leaked all over the place anyway. |
| 12:56.27 | Iceroth | and no druid talents >.< |
| 12:57.08 | Thrae | I saw the ones on Curse-Gaming, one of them in Restoration was insane -- up to a 100% chance to gain back all your base mana cost for your healing spells on a wounded target! |
| 12:57.36 | Iceroth | there was also 5 kinds of Mangles, i wouldn't really trust on those |
| 12:57.53 | Thrae | I think Mangle will be a Stun |
| 12:58.18 | Thrae | They usually go for combining two different Rogue attacks in a way that decreases the overall power of the attack while still making it useful. |
| 12:59.26 | Mikma | anyone tested latest BT2 commit? |
| 12:59.42 | Thrae | Haha, too bad about Decursive and Unstable Affiliction Warlock Talent -- it does damage to the dispeller! |
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| 13:00.06 | Thrae | They're going to need some convoluted logic to keep Affliction Warlocks from killing all the Druids/Priests ;) |
| 13:00.27 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 13:00.31 | [Ammo] | I'm affliction lock |
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| 13:00.34 | [Ammo] | always was always will be :) |
| 13:00.41 | [Ammo] | and I LIKE the new talents |
| 13:00.46 | Thrae | I think Affliction will be the new PvP spec come BC |
| 13:00.58 | Thrae | JUST for 1 sec off Howl Of Terror |
| 13:01.29 | tumetom | hm :( I cannot find any working durabilityFU ..:(( |
| 13:01.36 | haste | DM is also quite good in BC |
| 13:01.45 | Thrae | Fear is very powerful right now. Of course Warlocks say they never get a break when fearing targets, but I never seem to get a break when being feared =/ |
| 13:02.03 | Thrae | Well, it depends on how strong the Fel Guard is. |
| 13:02.53 | [Ammo] | we'll see |
| 13:02.56 | Thrae | Destruction isn't even that bad...AoE Stun every 2 minutes |
| 13:02.56 | [Ammo] | for now I'll remain DS |
| 13:02.59 | [Ammo] | SM/DS |
| 13:03.00 | Mikma | warlocks fear is nasty in PvP |
| 13:03.08 | Mikma | it's superlong :P |
| 13:03.27 | Thrae | I don't mind Warlock fear, it's Priest fear I think needs to be nerfed. |
| 13:03.35 | vhaarr | erm |
| 13:03.37 | vhaarr | No. |
| 13:03.41 | Mikma | hey people! please test BT2 with your characters :P |
| 13:03.48 | Mikma | i wan't to know does my barswapcode work |
| 13:03.51 | Thrae | Undead Shadow Priests are like Warlocks with Devouring Plague =/ |
| 13:04.05 | vhaarr | The Priest fear is crap. |
| 13:04.10 | Mikma | Thrae: priests fear is different |
| 13:04.12 | evl | hehe |
| 13:04.17 | Mikma | it affects many people but ain't that long actually |
| 13:04.22 | evl | I have a good way of dealing with priests + lock |
| 13:04.26 | Mikma | and it has a looooooong cooldown |
| 13:04.35 | vhaarr | Indeed. |
| 13:04.42 | Mikma | evl: smite heal smite heal smite heal? ;) |
| 13:04.43 | evl | they fear -> minor movement speed on boots -> run -> out of combat -> eat + stealth -> hello honey i'm home |
| 13:04.59 | Mikma | haha |
| 13:05.06 | evl | I took down a R14 warlock solo with that trick yesterday |
| 13:05.11 | evl | he was like "WTF DIE FROM DOT FFS" |
| 13:05.20 | evl | nooooo, manna biscut ftw! :D |
| 13:05.28 | Thrae | Well, I suppose really Priest Fear doesn't need the nerf, it's more about their absorb potentional vs damage potentional. |
| 13:05.36 | Mikma | muaha |
| 13:05.37 | [Ammo] | I killed a level 52 hunter with my 43 pally yesterday in 12 seconds |
| 13:05.50 | Mikma | he was on 10 hp? |
| 13:05.52 | [Ammo] | run up to him, hit him 2 times, slam hammer of justice on his head |
| 13:05.55 | [Ammo] | and destroy him |
| 13:06.04 | Mikma | took you 12secs to beat the 10 off ;) |
| 13:06.12 | Health | *GIGGLE* |
| 13:06.17 | [Ammo] | he was at 100% |
| 13:06.31 | Mikma | lies! SS or it didn't happen |
| 13:06.31 | Gngsk | Mikma, I can't test BT2, US servers are down for maintenance :( |
| 13:06.37 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 13:06.40 | [Ammo] | it happened! |
| 13:06.44 | Mikma | oh yeah, right, maintenance |
| 13:07.10 | oxman | We need the talent for priest :') |
| 13:07.16 | Mikma | [Ammo]: sure, i can poop gold :) |
| 13:07.31 | oxman | so, anyone from U.S. ? |
| 13:07.34 | Thrae | Shadow Priests can absorb too much for their damage poentional, and Holy Priests can deal too much damage for their absorb potentional. It needs to be tweaked a little, like 10% damage and absorb nerf for Priests, then +10% absorb gained from Holy tree, and +10% damage from Shadow Tree. |
| 13:07.52 | oxman | lol |
| 13:07.55 | Thrae | IE, make Priests a little more specialized. |
| 13:08.18 | Mikma | smite is pretty imba too :P |
| 13:08.19 | JoshBorke | nerf paladins! |
| 13:08.20 | Iceroth | if i'm lucky, i can take down shadow priest's shield before i die |
| 13:08.44 | oxman | five show is very very uber |
| 13:08.48 | oxman | shadow |
| 13:09.24 | yacoob | is there a list of raidframes compatible with oRA? |
| 13:09.35 | Gngsk | huh? |
| 13:10.08 | yacoob | Gngsk: oRA doesn't do raidframes by itself, it needs some other mod, right? |
| 13:10.16 | yacoob | like PerfectRaid, right? |
| 13:10.25 | Gngsk | yea, but what does a raidframe mod need oRA for? |
| 13:10.35 | yacoob | other way around :) |
| 13:10.40 | [Ammo] | ooh soulshatter |
| 13:10.49 | [Ammo] | reduces threat by 50% |
| 13:10.51 | yacoob | or I can use just about any? |
| 13:10.59 | Gngsk | yea |
| 13:11.11 | Kebinusan | Yeah ammo the warlock changes look kinda nutty |
| 13:11.17 | yacoob | Gngsk: that's good. |
| 13:11.18 | [Ammo] | well I'm ok with it |
| 13:11.18 | Gngsk | for me, oRA basically just does maintankframes |
| 13:11.24 | [Ammo] | threatreduction works fine |
| 13:11.30 | [Ammo] | any threat reduction |
| 13:11.33 | [Ammo] | it's our feint :) |
| 13:11.51 | Gngsk | no, it's your brain wash! |
| 13:12.13 | haste | http://video.google.pl/videoplay?docid=2107860976834753426 << Wish I knew french |
| 13:12.47 | yacoob | Gngsk: and what raid frames are you using? |
| 13:12.58 | Gngsk | MG2 and sRaidFrames |
| 13:13.15 | Gngsk | with both enabled you get a nice max of 125 kb/s increasing in combat! |
| 13:13.28 | yacoob | *sway* |
| 13:13.57 | Gngsk | yea, when servers come back up I'm gonna look at watchdog/clique/PR |
| 13:14.20 | evl | haste: you're using FuBar in that screen with the gradient bottom? I can't move FuXPBarFU |
| 13:15.30 | haste | I did the modification posted on the UI screenshot post |
| 13:16.17 | Thrae | I need to hack WD so it's frames are smaller |
| 13:16.54 | Thrae | What's the Priest tree besides Holy and Shadow? |
| 13:17.00 | yacoob | discipline |
| 13:17.06 | yacoob | mana control, or so they say |
| 13:17.47 | [Ammo] | I think I'll go with this: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warlock/talents.html?5500200412230105250031135000000000000000000050500001000000000000 |
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| 13:18.33 | Kebinusan | Imp coa isnt so bad 10% for two talent points |
| 13:18.54 | [Ammo] | I always skip that |
| 13:19.13 | Mikma | [Ammo]: oRA2 MENU! |
| 13:19.20 | Kebinusan | improved drain soul looks kinda interesting too |
| 13:19.27 | [Ammo] | what about it mikma? |
| 13:19.42 | [Ammo] | yeah less threat |
| 13:19.42 | Mikma | [Ammo]: sweet! dude! sweet! DUDE! |
| 13:19.58 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 13:20.05 | Mikma | [Ammo]: remember to add a menu for PlayerTargets <3 |
| 13:20.07 | [Ammo] | I could pick those up too and just skip the whole destruction part :) |
| 13:20.13 | [Ammo] | there are no playertargets |
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| 13:20.23 | [Ammo] | this is just the console commands in a fuplugin |
| 13:20.27 | Mikma | whaaaaat? :P |
| 13:20.31 | Thrae | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13692595&postId=136513325&sid=1#0 <-- will get flamed |
| 13:21.12 | [Ammo] | could probably replace the 4 point in fel conc with imp coa and imp drain soul |
| 13:21.30 | oxman | lol haste :D |
| 13:21.37 | oxman | link from video google |
| 13:21.41 | oxman | i'm french and it's really good |
| 13:21.41 | oxman | :p |
| 13:21.46 | Mikma | is there any way of checking what Page are you using in MainMenuBar? |
| 13:21.56 | haste | oxman: I don't understand the french part, but the other is great ;D |
| 13:22.01 | Thrae | I need to respec yet again with my Druid |
| 13:22.01 | oxman | ;D |
| 13:22.04 | Kebinusan | Yeah Im probably going heavy affliction too it fits my playstyle a bit more |
| 13:22.14 | Kebinusan | I like doting people up and watching them try and run away |
| 13:22.17 | Thrae | I want to respec now, but I should wait until 60 =/ |
| 13:22.30 | Kebinusan | Soul Siphon got changed from yesterday, it used to be a max of 24% |
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| 13:25.34 | Thrae | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/talents.html?00000000000000005011401323022150505203140010000 <-- what I'm thinking of for final Druid Feral/Resto hybrid talent spec |
| 13:25.56 | JoshBorke | ckknight: if someone were to want to use BabbleLib-1.1, does he/she still need BabbleLib.lua? |
| 13:26.11 | Thrae | Right now my spec is close to that, with a few exceptions |
| 13:26.24 | Tuplad | Thrae: Hybrid aint good, you suck at everything with it |
| 13:26.35 | Tuplad | Thrae: Healing is so so, damage is crap |
| 13:26.40 | Tuplad | Thrae: And gear is hard to find |
| 13:26.45 | Thrae | Tuplad: Did you look at the spec? |
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| 13:26.52 | Tuplad | Thrae: It's loading :> |
| 13:26.54 | Gngsk | Mikma, CURREN_ACTIONBAR_PAGE ? |
| 13:27.03 | Gngsk | er, CURRENT... |
| 13:27.22 | Kebinusan | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warlock/talents.html?0500200000000000000000235000000300000000000050500051220051321351 looks like a somewhat fun destro build |
| 13:27.40 | Iceroth | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/talents.html?00000000000000005032021313022150055523000010000 <- mine |
| 13:27.47 | Kebinusan | err screwed up a couple talents but yeh |
| 13:28.06 | Thrae | 0/30/21 is the best PvP/PvE spec for Druids IMHO. It allows you to healbot well enough in both PvE and PvP (healing gear is easy to find), while giving you 90% of the feral damage bonuses offered by Druid Talents |
| 13:28.16 | Kebinusan | Nether protection seems like a nice fun talent against fire mages and other locks |
| 13:28.55 | Tuplad | Thrae: 30/21 PvE ? :\ |
| 13:28.55 | Thrae | With 90% of the Feral Damage bonuses, increased Intellect, and increased Healing, you're a force to be reckoned with. |
| 13:29.07 | Thrae | With base Innervate, sure. |
| 13:29.15 | Tuplad | Thrae: Well, if you're aiming to be a support class, sure :) |
| 13:29.26 | Tuplad | Thrae: I used to tank in uhh, ZG, and uhh, top dps in MC |
| 13:29.29 | Thrae | 0/30/21 can even tank some end-game bosses, and will main heal fine |
| 13:29.49 | Tuplad | I was allowed to go cat in MC |
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| 13:29.55 | Tuplad | oh boy :> |
| 13:29.56 | Thrae | And with the right gear, you can even do excellent DPS |
| 13:30.06 | haste | we use a druid tank on Patchwork |
| 13:30.10 | haste | or soaker for that matter |
| 13:30.14 | Tuplad | Thrae: AQ40 is excellent gear for hybrid |
| 13:30.18 | Thrae | Tuplad: Were you Balance/Feral/Resto? |
| 13:30.21 | Tuplad | Thrae: And PvP |
| 13:30.25 | Thrae | Yep |
| 13:30.25 | Tuplad | Thrae: 14/32/5 |
| 13:30.29 | Tuplad | Thrae: I'll give you a link |
| 13:30.34 | Thrae | Tuplad: Yeah I know that build |
| 13:31.02 | Iceroth | 14/32/5 has kinda nice damage but i do much better in pvp with 0/30/21 |
| 13:31.26 | oxman | bagman is very very strong :p |
| 13:31.36 | Thrae | 14/32/5 pigeon-holes the Druid too much IMHO. PvP Healing is VERY spotty, the 21 in Resto goes a LONG way. |
| 13:31.40 | Tuplad | Thrae: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=MzLVhoZxGMscrdtV |
| 13:32.02 | Tuplad | Thrae: But most of the time I ran around with another Feral druid |
| 13:32.11 | Tuplad | Thrae: So if I were being raped, he heals me, if he's being raped, I heal him |
| 13:32.22 | Tuplad | Thrae: And now with innervate ... oh boy! |
| 13:32.43 | Thrae | Yeah, but my guild likes to PvP together, so I want to be able to support them. I know I can't deal more damage then a Fury Warrior or a Rogue or a Mage, etc. |
| 13:33.04 | Thrae | Like I said, I might switch to 14/32/5 when I get AQ40 or better gear |
| 13:33.10 | Tuplad | fury warrior damage is crap :)(if you mean dual wield) |
| 13:33.19 | Tuplad | Thrae: PvP set and AQ Gear are hybrid |
| 13:33.31 | Tuplad | best for hybrid |
| 13:34.30 | Thrae | Of course what I really want is the hammer from Naxx |
| 13:34.43 | Thrae | +240 Attack Power in forms *drools* |
| 13:34.51 | Iceroth | 305? |
| 13:35.01 | Thrae | Was it 305? That's even better |
| 13:35.05 | Iceroth | end of dreams |
| 13:35.18 | Thrae | Yeah End of Dreams, I get that name mixed up with the one from AQ40 |
| 13:35.27 | Iceroth | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22988 |
| 13:35.28 | Thrae | And it's Main Hand! |
| 13:36.51 | Thrae | Heh, ever main tanked AND main healed a non-raid instance? |
| 13:37.15 | Thrae | Feral Druids are the only class that can do both without gaining too many levels |
| 13:37.30 | Thrae | Probably even easier for Resto Druids |
| 13:37.38 | vhaarr | We have priests with End of Dreams :P |
| 13:37.42 | vhaarr | Got like 4. |
| 13:37.50 | Thrae | Haha, not enough Druids in your guild? |
| 13:37.56 | Kebinusan | our first went to a priest |
| 13:37.57 | vhaarr | They all have it :P |
| 13:38.14 | Thrae | Kebinusan: You'd let a Priest use their DKP / Roll / whatever over a Druid? |
| 13:38.21 | vhaarr | Yes. |
| 13:38.23 | Kebinusan | yep |
| 13:38.25 | Kebinusan | well not over |
| 13:38.30 | vhaarr | It nearly went to a priest our first kill, too. |
| 13:38.31 | Kebinusan | but yes they can bid on it |
| 13:38.41 | vhaarr | Because we don't give a *rats ass* about Druid melee dps in PvE. |
| 13:38.46 | vhaarr | And our loot is PvE-focused. |
| 13:38.46 | Kebinusan | The feral AP is a free stat it costs no item points |
| 13:39.15 | Thrae | It's not that good a Priest weapon though, there are better |
| 13:39.40 | vhaarr | Yes, but we've been unlucky with priest drops. |
| 13:39.53 | vhaarr | All priests except 2 still use benediction. |
| 13:39.58 | Thrae | I'm not saying Priests shouldn't be able to roll on it, just only if their gear is abysmal compared to your guild's running Druids |
| 13:40.07 | Kebinusan | well the +damage on it is very nice, its better than lokamir even after they nerfed it |
| 13:40.16 | Kebinusan | its pretty good for a paladin or priest |
| 13:40.44 | vhaarr | Paladins tend to ninja all our maces. |
| 13:40.54 | vhaarr | And mages/warlocks take the AQ staff. |
| 13:40.54 | Thrae | Yeah, I guess it depends on how many Druids your guild has |
| 13:40.58 | vhaarr | So there's nothing left for priests. |
| 13:41.03 | Thrae | Mine has like 0-2 usually in their runs |
| 13:41.30 | Kebinusan | I hope the server behaves this week Im a bit annoyed we didnt get to raid very much due to patch related lag |
| 13:41.34 | Thrae | And about 3 total (including me), 2 of which are Feral/Resto, 1 Balance |
| 13:41.44 | Kebinusan | nothing like 15 second lag spikes on patchwerk to ruin the week |
| 13:41.57 | Gngsk | :\ |
| 13:42.12 | sbu | need bc priest talents :/ |
| 13:42.14 | *** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 13:42.24 | Thrae | My guild also claims they only need up to 2 Druids for most raids |
| 13:42.35 | Thrae | No wait, that was our ally guild |
| 13:42.39 | Kebinusan | pfft |
| 13:42.43 | Kebinusan | try being a warlock |
| 13:42.55 | Thrae | Heh |
| 13:43.03 | [Ammo] | we bring 4 warlocks |
| 13:43.06 | [Ammo] | 5 if we can :) |
| 13:43.12 | sbu | same here |
| 13:43.13 | Kebinusan | 3 is our magic number |
| 13:43.21 | Thrae | Well 3 > 2 :D |
| 13:43.23 | [Ammo] | essentially 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 etc |
| 13:43.25 | Kebinusan | more than 3 and we are normally the first class thats asked to leave |
| 13:43.28 | sbu | but we have way too many priests :/ |
| 13:43.33 | Kebinusan | ammo yeah my old guild used to do that |
| 13:43.39 | sbu | 6/7 priests every time... |
| 13:43.40 | Thrae | Our guild is the opposite, we have too many DPS classes |
| 13:43.41 | [Ammo] | but with some exceptions |
| 13:43.49 | [Ammo] | 4 pallies, 4 warlocks, 6 warriors etc |
| 13:43.52 | sbu | because 2-3 of them cant play ;p |
| 13:43.53 | [Ammo] | but no less than 4 |
| 13:43.59 | [Ammo] | because it's unfair ;) |
| 13:44.10 | Thrae | Lots of Hunters, Rogues, Paladins (Alliance guild), Mages, and Warlocks |
| 13:44.19 | evl | HEY HEY HEY |
| 13:44.24 | Thrae | Not enough Warriors, Druids, and Priests |
| 13:44.25 | evl | Thrae: you cool down now |
| 13:44.31 | evl | There is NO way you can EVER get enough DPS |
| 13:44.59 | evl | DPS is like beer, unless you pass out from it you most likely need more |
| 13:45.06 | Kebinusan | I really liked the new lifetap on patchwerk though |
| 13:45.10 | Thrae | Well, enough Warriors, Druids, and Priests is kinda necessary for any raid, you can't do it without enough main-healers and main-tanks, sometimes we have like 2 Warriors >.< |
| 13:45.22 | Kebinusan | less time tapping 4tw |
| 13:45.40 | evl | PPpft, just look at Anarchy Online! |
| 13:46.01 | evl | you *could* do The Beast with 40 people, but why not bring 150! |
| 13:46.02 | Thrae | There should be a Tanking spec for Warlocks or Hunters, let 'em be a crappy Tank if needed, just not as good as a Prot Warrior |
| 13:46.28 | Gngsk | o_O |
| 13:46.40 | Thrae | Obviously I mean their Pets, not themselves, heh |
| 13:46.51 | Gngsk | still. |
| 13:47.21 | Thrae | "Increase your pet's damage migitation and threat generation by 50% while decreasing your own damage and your pet's damage by 75%" or something. |
| 13:48.26 | Kebinusan | Thrae, if I want to tank I can just click off salv |
| 13:48.29 | Kebinusan | heh |
| 13:48.33 | sbu | replacing rogues with warriors is just fine |
| 13:48.54 | sbu | 8 warr, 3 rogue -> nice ;p |
| 13:49.11 | Thrae | Yeah Fury Warriors still have some balance issues ;) |
| 13:49.39 | yacoob | Furry warriors? |
| 13:49.45 | Kebinusan | Yeah, our fury warrior has to hold back quite a bit |
| 13:49.55 | Kebinusan | one of em anyway, he's pretty sick at dps |
| 13:50.06 | sedatedChipmunk | Thrae: I tank just fine as a hunter O_o |
| 13:50.09 | Thrae | Furry Warriors > Fury Warriors for tanking in a lot of cases! If both have good skill. |
| 13:50.29 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: Endgame raid, like AQ+? |
| 13:50.40 | yacoob | cute furry warrior. |
| 13:50.41 | hyperChipmunk | I tank trash in AQ |
| 13:50.48 | Thrae | Yeah, I meant bosses |
| 13:50.51 | hyperChipmunk | when a warrior falls |
| 13:50.57 | hyperChipmunk | bosses sometimes, too |
| 13:51.17 | hyperChipmunk | but obviously not the first choice |
| 13:51.21 | Kebinusan | I would say not really though Thrae, shield block helps a ton not to mention parry which druids dont get |
| 13:51.26 | hyperChipmunk | hunters are good 'oh crap' tanks |
| 13:51.31 | Kebinusan | or the ability to drink potions in bear form |
| 13:51.50 | Kebinusan | tanking is more than just holding aggro there is a huge mitigation factor |
| 13:51.52 | hyperChipmunk | because we can grab agro whenever, and drop it just as easily |
| 13:52.04 | Thrae | Kebinusan: Well, I'm saying if both parties have good gear |
| 13:52.07 | hyperChipmunk | I'm more of a bear tank than a warrior tank though |
| 13:52.17 | hyperChipmunk | I rely on AC and health |
| 13:52.22 | Thrae | You'd be surprised how good a Druid's mitigation factor is |
| 13:53.01 | hyperChipmunk | I can push 9000 hp, 340 defense, and 55% mitigation from armor |
| 13:53.05 | Thrae | It's more about AC/Stamina/Defense/Agility(Crit + AC)/Dodge/Crit for Bear Tanks |
| 13:53.06 | Kebinusan | sure, but normal tanks can just drink greater stoneshield pots, and still have 15% parry and with shield block they dont get crit/crushing blows |
| 13:53.33 | hyperChipmunk | and my dodge is frickin huge =) |
| 13:54.12 | phyber | [Ammo]: could you update BigWigs on WoWI? there is some Library bug, people who run bigwigs are bitching that MoneyFu breaks. Upgrading to Latest BigWigs fixes it for them. |
| 13:54.22 | Thrae | Yeah, I'm not saying Bears can tank all of Naxx, but they are the best replacement for a Warrior. |
| 13:54.39 | Thrae | Given gear, skill, and talents, obviously. |
| 13:54.46 | phyber | Error: Interface\AddOns\BigWigs\Version.lua:81:AceLocale( BigWigs): No translations registered |
| 13:54.52 | phyber | AceLocale stuff :/ |
| 13:55.09 | hyperChipmunk | =D we did nax exploration with 20 with my girlfriend tanking (a paladin) because we had neither warriors nor druids. was the most fun ever |
| 13:55.13 | hyperChipmunk | oh wait, we did have a druid |
| 13:55.37 | hyperChipmunk | because the funniest line of the night was, "innervate the MT!" |
| 13:55.39 | Thrae | Paladin tanking is harder in non-Undead instances |
| 13:55.41 | Thrae | Haha |
| 13:55.48 | Kebinusan | meh, druids heal in raids, I really dont see that changing w/o big changes to encounters |
| 13:56.16 | Thrae | Not all instances, Kebinusan |
| 13:56.24 | Kebinusan | the ones that matter |
| 13:56.25 | hyperChipmunk | yea, the druid wasn't suited for tanking at all |
| 13:56.50 | Thrae | Of course, it depends on your Healer ratio. I'm not about to go DPS when the raid doesn't have enough healers. |
| 13:57.01 | Kebinusan | Sure tanks can go from dps gear to tanking gear and pretty much old aggro and have decent mitigation regardless of spec, thats not true for druids |
| 13:57.08 | Kebinusan | warriors are a more effective hybrid class in that regard |
| 13:57.21 | [Ammo] | Phyber: I can't, only Tekkub can |
| 13:57.29 | Thrae | But my guild has no problem letting me DPS, off-tank, and off-heal at the same time when we have enough healers. |
| 13:57.37 | Kebinusan | Personally I'd rather bring a shadow priest than a feral druid |
| 13:57.59 | Thrae | Well I guess my server's guilds disagree with you, but whatever. It's about personal playstyle. |
| 13:57.59 | [Ammo] | we use a fellolololol as an offtank |
| 13:58.11 | sbu | uhm - and if that rumour about bc t9 shadow talent is true - shadow priests would be perfect DD in instances |
| 13:58.13 | [Ammo] | but when he's not needed he's in healgear |
| 13:58.20 | phyber | [Ammo]: ahh, ok :) |
| 13:58.25 | sbu | (knockback AE with complete aggro reset) |
| 13:59.08 | Health | sick |
| 13:59.15 | sbu | yah |
| 13:59.15 | hyperChipmunk | those T9 talents are disgusting |
| 13:59.24 | Gngsk | except shadow priests run out of mana really fast |
| 13:59.44 | sbu | innervate ftw ;p |
| 13:59.47 | Health | Yeah, we suck! I'm just shadow for pvp - I heal in instances |
| 13:59.57 | hyperChipmunk | hunters better to be able to frickin' call a squadron of gryphons in as air support or something |
| 14:00.08 | sbu | hehe |
| 14:00.11 | Thrae | Shadow Priests make fine healers, like non-Resto Druids too |
| 14:00.33 | Thrae | Feral Druids make far better healers then Balance Druids of course |
| 14:00.34 | sbu | well - but nothing compared to disc/holy spec :o |
| 14:00.38 | hyperChipmunk | that's not the problem |
| 14:00.43 | hyperChipmunk | it's the people who play shadow priests |
| 14:00.59 | Kebinusan | let the non resto druid cast the hots on the mt for maexxna |
| 14:01.04 | Thrae | Restoration Druids can get close to Disc/Holy with new Swiftmend but still not as good, obviously |
| 14:01.05 | hyperChipmunk | shadow priests CAN be fine healers |
| 14:01.14 | hyperChipmunk | good luck getting one to do it |
| 14:01.18 | sbu | last nite i changed from 26/25 to 21/29 (or is it 20/30? dunno) |
| 14:01.50 | sbu | renew changed form 370 to 400 :o |
| 14:02.00 | Health | I'm around 400 too |
| 14:02.02 | Thrae | Eh, full Restoration right now only has Swiftmend as a good talent, the +20% Intellect goes further from Feral in my opinion |
| 14:02.17 | sbu | Health: durid or priest? |
| 14:02.21 | Health | priest |
| 14:02.22 | Thrae | Hence why I like 0/30/21. |
| 14:02.23 | sbu | ah |
| 14:02.30 | sbu | Health: how many +heal? |
| 14:02.34 | Health | ~800 |
| 14:02.40 | sbu | points |
| 14:02.40 | sbu | uh, i c |
| 14:02.45 | sbu | 710 here |
| 14:03.05 | sbu | and 50mp5 |
| 14:03.07 | sbu | ~ |
| 14:03.21 | Thrae | I'd say Renew/Rejuvenation and Regrowth/Flash Heal benefits most from +Healing, right? |
| 14:03.31 | Health | I'm at 71 mp5 |
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| 14:03.41 | sbu | *sigh* :p need better gear ;) |
| 14:03.44 | Health | :P |
| 14:03.57 | Health | http://ctprofiles.net/84588 - pvp gear |
| 14:04.10 | sbu | Thrae: true for renew |
| 14:04.25 | haste | want to see my shermans PvE gear? |
| 14:04.43 | Thrae | sbu: Not true for Rejuvenation? They're basically the same |
| 14:04.52 | sbu | eh also for rejuv. ;o |
| 14:04.56 | sbu | but not sure about flash heal |
| 14:05.09 | Gngsk | haste, what class is your main toon? |
| 14:05.19 | sbu | Health: arrrr... need that mainhand ;p |
| 14:05.22 | haste | Gngsk: it's a shaman, but I only raid with it |
| 14:05.24 | Thrae | Flash Heal is quick with lower healing, so I'd think +healing would benefit it more. |
| 14:05.36 | haste | Gngsk: the time it has outside an instance is the travel time usually :p |
| 14:05.54 | Moondrake[G5] | lol haste, i know that well :D |
| 14:06.02 | sbu | Health: gavel of inf. wisdom + lei of lifegiver > benediction? |
| 14:06.04 | Moondrake[G5] | same for my priest |
| 14:06.05 | Gngsk | haste, yea, I think I remember a screenshot of your shaman wearing a dress. but most your screenshots are of your rogue |
| 14:06.22 | haste | Gngsk: my screenshots are a mix from my warlock, shaman and rogue ;) |
| 14:06.31 | Health | sbu: I grabbed it before the +30 spell damage enchant was healing too |
| 14:06.33 | haste | my rogue is the old 'hey let's idle ehre and code' toon |
| 14:06.44 | haste | it had 6 days on L4 :D |
| 14:07.05 | Gngsk | ahh, I don't think I've ever seen a screenshot of your warlock, but there's that old post on haste3k about the felheart gear |
| 14:07.33 | haste | http://fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_051406_005559.png << ;) |
| 14:09.44 | Gngsk | nice |
| 14:09.54 | haste | the main reason don't play my warlock much anymore is because it was denied access to BWL |
| 14:10.06 | Gngsk | :| |
| 14:10.12 | Gngsk | my guild won't let me bring my priest to BWL :( |
| 14:10.27 | haste | I've brought my rogue to huhuran, and viscidus :p |
| 14:10.52 | haste | my warlock has basicly the best ZG + MC gear you can get, while my rogue runs around with some greens, blues and epic weapons |
| 14:11.02 | Health | http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9093/waterwaiterjr7.jpg |
| 14:11.29 | Thrae | I wonder if I can grab Tidal Charm as soon as the server comes back up |
| 14:11.42 | sbu | Health: http://ctprofiles.net/218944 |
| 14:11.53 | Thrae | 2-sec stun every 10 minutes from a trinket <3 |
| 14:12.28 | Health | Almost the same :p |
| 14:12.29 | Gngsk | that guy doesn't spawn right when the server comes back up |
| 14:12.41 | sbu | need ring/trinket stuff |
| 14:12.47 | Thrae | Really? Damn, about when does he spawn? |
| 14:12.52 | Thrae | I know his cooldown is ~8 hours |
| 14:12.58 | hyperChipmunk | tidal charm is handy |
| 14:13.04 | hyperChipmunk | it's just a regular rare spawn |
| 14:13.22 | hyperChipmunk | he's a naga down in the shipwreck area of arathi highlands |
| 14:13.31 | Gngsk | /tar prince |
| 14:13.49 | hyperChipmunk | i got it when I was like level 40 =) |
| 14:13.54 | Thrae | When do rare spawns normally spawn? |
| 14:14.00 | Thrae | Lucky you, I check for him regularly |
| 14:14.02 | Gngsk | uhm, randomly? :P |
| 14:14.12 | hyperChipmunk | they're a small %age chance on mob respawn |
| 14:14.27 | [Ammo] | there is no cooldown afaik |
| 14:14.31 | Thrae | Yeah, so there's a chance he'll spawn when the server comes back up too |
| 14:14.36 | hyperChipmunk | he jumped me when I was mining there |
| 14:14.42 | hyperChipmunk | didn't even know who he was |
| 14:14.48 | Thrae | There's no cooldown on rare spawns? |
| 14:15.00 | Thrae | So if I keep clearing the area for 2 hours, I have a high chance of meeting him? |
| 14:15.12 | Thrae | s/high/decent/ |
| 14:15.15 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 14:15.24 | sbu | Health: but i want to replace benediction with gavel+lei (alterac exalted) |
| 14:15.41 | Health | Yeah, that one has mad healing :p |
| 14:15.41 | Thrae | Druids can use Trinkets, including Tidal Charm, in our forms, so it's a bigger deal for us |
| 14:16.03 | sbu | Health: unless i get lok'amir bevor exalted with cenarius ;p |
| 14:16.05 | hyperChipmunk | and I'm pretty sure it's 15m cooldown, but 10 |
| 14:16.10 | sbu | before |
| 14:16.12 | Thrae | At the very least, extra Bash + Regrowth if Bash is cooling down |
| 14:16.15 | hyperChipmunk | s/but/not/ |
| 14:16.33 | Health | We're still working on BWL in our little alliance :P |
| 14:16.34 | Thrae | Yeah I couldn't remember if it was 15 or 10, I was thinking 15 but wanted it to be 10...still 15 is <3 |
| 14:16.35 | Gngsk | yea, it's 15 minutes |
| 14:16.40 | Health | Hopefully down Flamegore tonight |
| 14:16.42 | Health | err |
| 14:16.43 | Health | fireman |
| 14:16.46 | Health | firemaw* |
| 14:16.58 | sbu | Health: hopefully chromaggus timelapse down tonite :/ |
| 14:17.06 | Thrae | Druids will probably get another stun in BC, with Tidal Charm we have a little stunlock going ;) |
| 14:17.08 | sbu | our ppl are just too dumb for TL |
| 14:17.14 | sbu | its that easy but... *sigh* |
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| 14:22.36 | Tuplad | AceTimer is so bugged for a rogue :( |
| 14:22.40 | Tuplad | Used Garrot: |
| 14:22.40 | Tuplad | [2006/08/29 16:06:36-47]: Core\AceTimer.lua:167: bad argument #1 to `unpack' (table expected, got nil) |
| 14:22.44 | Gngsk | I'd like to see an addon that uses data mined information for resources nodes from sites lock wowhead to replace gatherer |
| 14:22.53 | Gngsk | Tuplad, yea I'm seeing that with my rogue too, usually when I use evasion though |
| 14:23.16 | Gngsk | http://www.wowhead.com/?object=176589 <- would love to see this in-game |
| 14:23.22 | Gngsk | how difficult would that be? |
| 14:26.02 | [Ammo] | you mean search for Black Lotus and it reports spawn points with locations in game? |
| 14:26.08 | [Ammo] | (doesn't gatherer do that?) |
| 14:26.37 | Gngsk | yea, but I want something with a database that's already populated |
| 14:27.10 | [Ammo] | I don't think that works |
| 14:27.13 | vhaarr | There is already. |
| 14:27.16 | [Ammo] | spawnpoints are serverbased? |
| 14:27.26 | Health | They are static though? |
| 14:27.28 | Health | err |
| 14:27.29 | vhaarr | No, they are the same across servers. |
| 14:27.32 | [Ammo] | aha |
| 14:27.34 | steino | They are static |
| 14:27.39 | [Ammo] | well you could probably rip wowhead |
| 14:27.43 | vhaarr | There's already a Gatherer DB you can download. |
| 14:27.59 | Gngsk | ahh, where can I find that? |
| 14:28.48 | [Ammo] | http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com? :) |
| 14:30.20 | yacoob | nonono |
| 14:30.22 | Gngsk | oh, I looked for that a while ago |
| 14:30.30 | yacoob | http://www.fuckinggoogle.it |
| 14:30.31 | vhaarr | Yes, fuckinggoogleit.com- |
| 14:30.32 | Gngsk | but, I couldn't find it, hence the idea to try and make one myself |
| 14:30.48 | yacoob | Tuplad: NECB works, and isn't that laggy/mem hungry |
| 14:31.04 | vhaarr | lern2google.com |
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| 14:32.28 | Tuplad | yacoob: Dont like the looks of it |
| 14:32.44 | yacoob | Too bad :/ |
| 14:32.52 | Tuplad | ;< |
| 14:33.13 | yacoob | Tuplad: you want it hostel style? |
| 14:33.19 | Tuplad | ye |
| 14:33.26 | yacoob | Tuplad: perhaps you can bug author about textures, he is quite friendly |
| 14:37.17 | Tuplad | :O |
| 14:37.22 | Tuplad | I'll ask him to convert it to candy :> |
| 14:47.59 | tumetom | http://raidorg.lagcity.de/LUA/gatherer.php |
| 14:48.05 | tumetom | --> german database |
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| 14:52.15 | Kebinusan | tumetom, any idea where to find the english one |
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| 14:54.03 | Kebinusan | http://files.filefront.com/Gathererlua/;4744104;;/fileinfo.html looks to be one |
| 14:56.22 | tumetom | yacoob indeed NECB is hungry |
| 14:57.10 | Tuplad | yacoob said that it's not hungry |
| 15:06.58 | Gngsk | Kebinusan, I had more success this time around. gather.reet.org |
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| 15:14.58 | Tuplad | oh I love guild chat |
| 15:15.10 | Tuplad | "That's why your game crashed because you wrote teksupport!!!!" |
| 15:23.25 | haste | "you wrote"? |
| 15:30.27 | Tuplad | yea |
| 15:30.32 | Tuplad | :\ |
| 15:30.45 | Tuplad | He thinks I wrote Discord |
| 15:30.49 | Tuplad | lol |
| 15:31.28 | phyber | woo. must fun day at work evar. |
| 15:31.37 | phyber | actually building a new server instead of fixing an old one :p |
| 15:32.42 | Tuplad | :O |
| 15:34.56 | Neronix | haste: What's oSkin? |
| 15:35.18 | haste | Neronix: http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/impstatic.png and http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/imploot.png |
| 15:35.44 | Neronix | sexcellent |
| 15:35.53 | haste | It's not on the forum yet |
| 15:35.55 | haste | since it needs testing :p |
| 15:37.33 | JoshBorke | ok bye :-) |
| 15:37.33 | *** part/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@ohm.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 15:37.58 | Tuplad | haste: sweet |
| 15:38.05 | sbu | hmm - pubcrawl still svn only? |
| 15:38.11 | Tuplad | I can test :> |
| 15:38.16 | Tuplad | sbu: Branches only |
| 15:38.23 | sbu | i see |
| 15:38.33 | phyber | haste: will that skin replace all of blizzards skins? like, skinning the CharacterFrame and stuff? |
| 15:39.10 | haste | phyber: later probably, only played with the StaticPopups and GroupLootFrames so far |
| 15:39.11 | Neronix | phyber: It only seems to alter the StaticPopup frames and the roll frames |
| 15:39.17 | Neronix | after looking at the code |
| 15:39.18 | vhaarr | Kebinusan: I'll be testing the Thaddius mods tonight, hopefully. |
| 15:39.21 | phyber | nice. |
| 15:39.23 | Mikma | haste: porn. |
| 15:39.31 | vhaarr | haste: it looks really nice |
| 15:39.33 | Mikma | Gngsk: yes? |
| 15:39.37 | phyber | well, those other frames look great. I know I'll test that thing out when I get home :) |
| 15:40.03 | vhaarr | ~seen cladhaire |
| 15:40.26 | purl | cladhaire <n=jnwhiteh@cpe-69-202-110-177.twcny.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 14h 58m 15s ago, saying: 'or something like this.'. |
| 15:40.55 | sbu | uhm - whats the name of that colored combat log thing? |
| 15:42.16 | Mikma | depends on where |
| 15:42.43 | Tuplad | sbu: SimpleCombatLog |
| 15:45.36 | sbu | hmm... raid in ~1h and i just installed pubcrawl - think i'll mess up my entire actionbar setup :p |
| 15:45.55 | sbu | i dont like it that button content is stored on blizz servers :/ |
| 15:47.22 | phyber | heh. first time I realised the button content was stored on blizz servers is when I ran my own private one. saw the server pulling button data from MySQL, was like, WTF? |
| 15:47.32 | Tuplad | :o |
| 15:47.33 | Neronix | hehe |
| 15:47.38 | Neronix | I found it kinda useful |
| 15:47.50 | sbu | hmm its useful, yep |
| 15:47.53 | Neronix | I had a 5 month hiatus a year ago |
| 15:48.00 | phyber | I guess it's good incase you reinstall WoW, you still get your buttons in the same place :) |
| 15:48.06 | sbu | but all those actionbar addons have different ways of addessing those buttons |
| 15:48.09 | Neronix | And when I came back, I found all my buttons back |
| 15:48.15 | sbu | so every time you change its a mess |
| 15:48.17 | Neronix | jumped right back in |
| 15:48.26 | sbu | and no easy way to jump back to your old settings |
| 15:48.31 | sbu | because you changed that stuff ;p |
| 15:49.08 | phyber | clearly, we need some kind of ButtonConfigurmatron addon to store different button configs in. |
| 15:49.26 | phyber | incase you don't like your new config ;) |
| 15:49.48 | CIA-11 | 03werehamster * r9475 10HealSyncScanner/: Share project 'HealSyncScanner' into 'http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/HealSyncScanner' |
| 15:50.42 | CIA-11 | 03werehamster * r9476 10HealSyncScanner/ (HealSyncScanner.lua HealSyncScanner.toc): |
| 15:50.42 | CIA-11 | HealSyncScanner: |
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| 15:55.13 | CIA-11 | HealSyncScanner: |
| 15:55.13 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:55.13 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.10 | Mikma | so, anyone had time to test 'tender2? :D |
| 15:56.27 | vhaarr | What is bar swapping, Mikma ? |
| 15:56.42 | vhaarr | Is it so I can press Shift+2 and get bar 2 with bar 1's keybindings? |
| 15:56.52 | Mikma | vhaarr: the normal what blizzard does too, but it was broken on BT2 with 1.12 :P |
| 15:57.14 | Mikma | no, barswap is the action happening when druid shapeshifts / warrior changes stance |
| 15:58.36 | vhaarr | right |
| 15:59.12 | Mikma | it was _REALLY_ bugged on druids when changing between between cat -> nelf -> bear -> nelf -> cat -> etc |
| 15:59.36 | Mikma | bear got cat-talents shown and bear got cat-talents |
| 16:00.05 | vhaarr | I know |
| 16:00.10 | vhaarr | I had that bug myself |
| 16:00.17 | vhaarr | so I switched to bongos |
| 16:00.55 | Mikma | well, i tried to fix it today and it worked atleast for warrior/rogue/druied |
| 16:01.12 | Mikma | now i need to know is there anything else going on with other chars |
| 16:01.23 | Mikma | oh btw tested shaman also and seems to work |
| 16:01.54 | Mikma | one thing i REALLY need to know is what is the number of Moonkin-bar and shapeshift number |
| 16:04.22 | vhaarr | hm, what is the new BG chat channels called again? |
| 16:04.33 | vhaarr | "Battle Grounds" and "Battle Grounds Leader" ? |
| 16:04.47 | vhaarr | anyone know exactly? |
| 16:11.38 | hyperChipmunk | Battlegrounds/Battlegrounds Leader |
| 16:11.47 | hyperChipmunk | er, not-plural I think |
| 16:17.12 | Elkano | deDE is Schlachtfeld |
| 16:17.21 | Mikma | lederhosen |
| 16:17.30 | hyperChipmunk | En Battlefielden |
| 16:17.38 | tumetom | Bielefeld? |
| 16:18.02 | tumetom | can someone tell me the name of teh aced abINFO? |
| 16:18.13 | Tuplad | tumetom: AceButtonInfo |
| 16:18.17 | tumetom | thx |
| 16:18.17 | Tuplad | tumetom: Use OmniCC :> |
| 16:18.33 | Laric | is there any nice bar lib out there.. (not timed bars) |
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| 16:19.18 | tumetom | tuplad thx |
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| 16:19.34 | Tuplad | :) |
| 16:19.39 | Tuplad | Laric: CandyBar |
| 16:19.44 | Tuplad | Laric: sexiest around |
| 16:20.06 | Kebinusan | thats for timed bars though |
| 16:20.59 | Laric | hmm I want a nice bar lib with all the styles ready for usage so all aced bars could look the same. |
| 16:21.57 | Kebinusan | thats just a matter of setting a texture isnt it? |
| 16:23.04 | Tuplad | meh |
| 16:23.08 | Tuplad | FtH|eagle: XRS buggzorz :< |
| 16:24.08 | Laric | could be havent investigated yet. |
| 16:24.51 | FtH|eagle | why? |
| 16:25.14 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: yeah, nonplural, thanks |
| 16:26.16 | Tuplad | FtH|eagle: sec |
| 16:26.33 | Tuplad | FtH|eagle: http://ace.pastey.net/484 |
| 16:27.23 | FtH|eagle | yeah, fixed that already |
| 16:27.52 | FtH|eagle | will upload fixed version later |
| 16:28.23 | sbu | brrrr |
| 16:28.32 | sbu | back to forgottenchat - chatr is buggy :/ |
| 16:29.11 | Tuplad | FtH|eagle: cheers |
| 16:34.48 | Elkano | hyperChipmunk, we've got to track down GloryLib's PoI bug in AB somehow :/ |
| 16:36.49 | hyperChipmunk | it's not a bug; it's another one of ckknight's stupid asserts |
| 16:36.59 | hyperChipmunk | just delete it |
| 16:37.09 | hyperChipmunk | I thought we did that before |
| 16:37.52 | sbu | hm |
| 16:38.01 | sbu | clique adds click support to perfectraid? |
| 16:38.10 | Laric | hmm I wonder if maia approves of me stealing some code of him/her |
| 16:38.17 | FtH|eagle | I think it's really a bug, because the blizzard function returns 4 instead of 5 |
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| 16:39.35 | Elkano | well, the function is returning the wrong value, so it's most likely a bug but one of WoW |
| 16:39.51 | Tuplad | Laric: maia is gangsta :p guess he/she wont mind |
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| 16:41.06 | hyperChipmunk | it's unnecessary; if there's a real error, wow will throw it when you try to get information on a nonexistant POI |
| 16:41.35 | hyperChipmunk | no need to throw one yourself |
| 16:43.06 | Laric | Tuplad : oki :P |
| 16:43.48 | packetlss | sbu: yes |
| 16:46.43 | sbu | hmmm |
| 16:46.54 | sbu | clique doesnt show up in my addon list,w tf |
| 16:47.22 | Tuplad | Laric: remember, Im not maia ;D |
| 16:49.59 | haste | "WoWI dies." :< |
| 16:51.18 | Tuplad | :o |
| 16:51.46 | sbu | hmm |
| 16:51.50 | sbu | any idea? |
| 16:51.55 | sbu | clique isnt in my addon list |
| 16:52.11 | sbu | but it should be there :p |
| 16:59.24 | Laric | haste ? |
| 17:01.35 | haste | Laric: ? |
| 17:02.17 | hyperChipmunk | hyperChipmunk: ? |
| 17:03.34 | haste | hyperChipmunk: ? |
| 17:03.44 | hyperChipmunk | haste: ? |
| 17:03.56 | haste | hyperChipmunk: I had something for you, but I forgot it :< |
| 17:03.57 | Mikma | Laric: ? |
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| 17:09.33 | tumetom | shouln't Glory-2.0.lua be included it the !!!Libraries.toc? |
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| 17:12.21 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r9478 10oRA2/oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: typo fix in invite |
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| 17:14.26 | tumetom | is a Fubar2.0durability plugin available? |
| 17:15.20 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r9479 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/Resurrection.lua: oRA2: logic tweaks in the resurrection monitor |
| 17:17.06 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r9480 10oRA2/oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: typo fix disabling and enabling shorthands |
| 17:18.00 | FISKER_Q | whats the state of oRA2? |
| 17:18.11 | phyber | The state of oRA2 is: Win |
| 17:18.43 | FISKER_Q | is it 1337 enough for molten core? |
| 17:18.53 | [Ammo] | I don't use anything else in Naxx or wherever |
| 17:18.58 | CIA-11 | 03neronix * r9481 10Lexan/Lexan.toc: Lexan - Updated TOC release date for 2.1 release |
| 17:19.14 | phyber | FISKER_Q: I think so :) I was using it on Ony the other day. |
| 17:24.45 | phyber | ~seen Stylpe |
| 17:25.46 | purl | stylpe <n=mikalhh@84.212.70.238> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 21d 22h 55m 52s ago, saying: 'ah yeah'. |
| 17:25.46 | CIA-11 | 03neronix * r9482 10MobHealth/ (MobHealth.toc changelog.txt): MobHealth3 - Updated metadata for 3.2 release |
| 17:25.46 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r9483 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: tweaks to the Maintank Frames console/fu options |
| 17:25.57 | phyber | :/ |
| 17:25.58 | Mikma | hmm nice work [Ammo], have had to update 4x in 5min now ;) |
| 17:26.09 | phyber | Wonder if he'll update KeepItCool to Ace2/FuBar2 anytime soon. |
| 17:27.47 | phyber | how irritating, ShowMyChat is still required in 1.12 :/ |
| 17:28.09 | Gngsk | yea, heh |
| 17:28.12 | phyber | [Ammo]: \o/ oRA2 menu. |
| 17:28.22 | Mikma | .. |
| 17:28.26 | Mikma | [Ammo]: told ya ;) |
| 17:28.39 | [Ammo] | blargh |
| 17:28.43 | [Ammo] | menu's ftmfl |
| 17:28.54 | [Ammo] | learn to type faster nubbers |
| 17:29.33 | Health | nub! |
| 17:30.32 | phyber | [Ammo]: I can type fast, I still like the menu though. :) |
| 17:31.03 | phyber | I usually just use the shorthands. |
| 17:31.06 | Kyahx | g'morning |
| 17:31.11 | Mikma | http://www.radioubik.net/radio.mp3.m3u |
| 17:31.17 | [Ammo] | phyber: me too |
| 17:31.24 | Mikma | sorry for the finnish host (the dj) |
| 17:31.28 | [Ammo] | the menu for setting maintanks etc still needs some adjusting |
| 17:31.39 | [Ammo] | but I'll fix that in a while |
| 17:31.44 | [Ammo] | right now I'm done tweaking |
| 17:31.47 | [Ammo] | I need to go DDR with heigan |
| 17:32.30 | Health | So.. what is needed if you switch to oRA2 from CTRA, oRA2 and raid frames? |
| 17:33.17 | phyber | oRA2 + PerfectRaid + BigWigs and you're set. |
| 17:33.25 | CIA-11 | 03neronix * r9484 10MobHealth3_BlizzardFrames/ (MobHealth3_BlizzardFrames.toc changelog.txt): MobHealth3: Blizzard Frames - Updated metadata for 1.2 release |
| 17:33.32 | Neronix | I hate mod sites |
| 17:33.37 | Mikma | good. |
| 17:34.11 | Health | I already use BigWigs :) |
| 17:34.42 | phyber | :) |
| 17:35.02 | phyber | PerfectRaid is great, more people should use it. It would stop them whispering me with "are any soulstones up?" |
| 17:35.02 | Kebinusan | I wish we had received hardware upgrades this week :-( |
| 17:35.28 | Kebinusan | phyber, /agreed but its cool everyone thinks Im cool for always having the answer |
| 17:35.44 | Kebinusan | I know all |
| 17:35.46 | Gngsk | You're justu plain cool! |
| 17:36.03 | Health | Heh, you can see soulstones in CTRA? |
| 17:36.06 | Health | If you view buffs :p |
| 17:36.50 | phyber | Kebinusan: yeah. You know everything that's happening with PRaid :) |
| 17:36.56 | Gngsk | it's kinda buggy though health |
| 17:37.27 | CIA-11 | 03neronix * r9485 10EarPlug/Earplug.lua: EarPlug - Touched to get a zip made |
| 17:38.01 | CIA-11 | 03neronix * r9486 10DeuceCommander/DeuceCommander.toc: DeuceCommander - Touched to get a zip made |
| 17:38.28 | CIA-11 | 03neronix * r9487 10FuBar_MiniClockFu/FuBar_MiniClockFu.toc: MiniClockFu - TOC update to get zip made |
| 17:38.45 | CIA-11 | 03neronix * r9488 10FuBar_MiniPerfsFu/FuBar_MiniPerfsFu.toc: MiniPerfsFu - TOC update to get zip made |
| 17:39.15 | CIA-11 | 03neronix * r9489 10FuBar_NanoStatsFu/FuBar_NanoStatsFu.toc: NanoStatsFu - TOC update to get zip made |
| 17:39.25 | CIA-11 | 03neronix * r9490 10NanoStats/NanoStats.toc: NanoStats - TOC update to get zip made |
| 17:39.34 | Health | VolumeFu too! |
| 17:39.45 | phyber | Neronix: how is NanoStats2 at the moment, usable? |
| 17:40.17 | Neronix | phyber: Yeah |
| 17:40.25 | Neronix | Healing plugin's still not written yet though |
| 17:40.27 | CIA-11 | 03neronix * r9491 10FuBar_NavigatorFu/NavigatorFu.lua: NavigatorFu - Touched to get zip made |
| 17:40.39 | Neronix | Core, duration and damage work perfectly fine |
| 17:40.44 | phyber | cool. |
| 17:40.56 | Kebinusan | duration seems to have a bug still, sometimes it doesnt stop incrementing out of combat |
| 17:41.06 | Neronix | oh yeah, forgot to fix >.< |
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| 17:42.13 | Neronix | phyber: FuBar plugin works too |
| 17:47.18 | Health | Anyone update VolumeFu to get in the files section? A friend just asked about it :p |
| 17:47.48 | Makk | need a good HUD |
| 17:47.57 | CIA-11 | 03neronix 07Neronix * r9492 10NanoStats2/NanoStats2/NanoStats2.lua: NanoStats2 - Now checks UnitAffectingCombat("player") on each tick. An untested fix for the nonstop counting bug |
| 17:48.36 | FISKER_Q | ok how do you move the maintank frame in ora2? |
| 17:49.14 | Gngsk | hold alt and drag? that's how it worked with oRA |
| 17:49.19 | Gngsk | or, works |
| 17:49.45 | FISKER_Q | i never used the one in ora :) |
| 17:49.55 | FISKER_Q | infact i can toss out easyraid out now |
| 17:49.56 | FISKER_Q | woohoo |
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| 17:57.18 | Neronix | For those who haven't seen it yet: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8014808211220282746&hl=en |
| 17:57.23 | phyber | Ace2 fucks up far too much :/ |
| 17:57.24 | phyber | http://www.wowinterface.com/portal_admin.php?id=118&a=viewbugreport&bugid=2010 |
| 17:58.05 | phyber | actually, you won't see that link, bah. |
| 17:58.14 | phyber | anyway, it's people bitching about AceLocale fucking up. |
| 17:58.34 | phyber | difference between versions or something. |
| 17:58.37 | Mikma | phyber: |
| 17:58.38 | Mikma | You are not the owner,team member or an admin of this portal. |
| 17:59.16 | phyber | Mikma: yup, that's why I said you wouldn't be able to see it, after I noticed "portal_admin.php" ;) |
| 18:03.53 | Mikma | hehe |
| 18:08.50 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 18:09.20 | Mikma | hi boss |
| 18:10.07 | ckknight | books are expensive |
| 18:10.17 | ckknight | and I got stuck in a shitty CS class |
| 18:10.26 | ckknight | crappy intro to Java bullshit |
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| 18:11.09 | Neronix | Feel lucky |
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| 18:13.54 | *** topic/#wowace is wowace.com | http://ace.pastey.net/ | http://www.lua.org/pil | Ace 2.0.3768 | http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/ | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1980.0.html <-Read Here for SVN Changes |
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| 18:14.48 | Moondrake[G5] | haste? you there? |
| 18:15.33 | Neronix | There, updating all done |
| 18:15.39 | Neronix | Time to actually play the game... |
| 18:18.29 | Moondrake[G5] | does anyone have oUF Ace2 that he could send me?^^ |
| 18:20.05 | vhaarr | Kebinusan: Hm, seems to be working, but we have so much lag here, I can't really tell. |
| 18:20.09 | ckknight | Thrae, well, they have a two-week return policy |
| 18:20.40 | ckknight | the issue is, it's a prerequisite for everything else, even though I'm definitely beyond that level |
| 18:20.47 | Elkano | hiho ckknight :) atm it seems to be only HonorFu who isn't remembering where it belongs to on the bar... |
| 18:20.50 | ckknight | ugh |
| 18:21.04 | ckknight | blah. |
| 18:21.17 | ckknight | weird, though |
| 18:22.14 | Elkano | true true |
| 18:24.04 | Neronix | What's the difference between HonorFu and BatFu? |
| 18:24.39 | Elkano | HonorFu is for Honor, BatFu for Battleground info |
| 18:24.48 | Thrae | HonorFu is mostly about tracking PvP statistics, BattlegroundFu is about giving you information about your current BG instance. |
| 18:24.53 | Neronix | I see |
| 18:25.17 | Makk | could someone bump Timex for a zip? |
| 18:26.13 | CIA-11 | 03neronix * r9493 10!!!Libraries/!!!Libraries.toc: !!!Libraries - Added Glory-2.0 to the TOC |
| 18:26.23 | phyber | I wonder if clad could make the SVN server put a log of itself somewhere. 'svn log -v > /somewhere/where/we/can/see/it.log' |
| 18:26.40 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r9494 10Timex/Timex.toc: Timex: .toc |
| 18:26.49 | Moondrake[G5] | could someone bum oUF2 into a zip please? thanks |
| 18:27.00 | Mikma | ouf2 is in branches |
| 18:27.12 | Mikma | can it be bump'd |
| 18:27.18 | Moondrake[G5] | could someone get it an send it to me? mikma? |
| 18:27.30 | Mikma | hmm yeah |
| 18:27.32 | Makk | Mikma: thanks :) |
| 18:27.36 | Neronix | phyber: seconded |
| 18:27.48 | Moondrake[G5] | thanks, i was testeing agUF right now, but's unplayable in 40man raid |
| 18:28.07 | Neronix | looking at XML isn't what I'd like to do when I get back from school |
| 18:29.21 | phyber | I'd just like it because it takes ages to make the log if I do it locally :/ |
| 18:29.35 | phyber | svn log -v > ../wowace.log; been going for 4 minutes now. |
| 18:30.02 | Neronix | ~whalelottery phyber |
| 18:30.04 | purl | ACTION launches a giant lottery ball into phyber's tubes. Theodore is successfully dislodged. |
| 18:31.03 | Moondrake[G5] | mikma: can you send it to luc@kyrenee.com ? thanks in advance |
| 18:31.48 | Mikma | no i can't! |
| 18:31.54 | Moondrake[G5] | ? |
| 18:31.57 | Mikma | really |
| 18:32.07 | Mikma | i dislike emailing crap :D |
| 18:32.18 | Moondrake[G5] | lol |
| 18:32.25 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/oUF2.zip |
| 18:32.26 | Mikma | eat that |
| 18:32.29 | Moondrake[G5] | an other idea? |
| 18:32.37 | Moondrake[G5] | mhhh tatsy |
| 18:33.00 | Moondrake[G5] | externals included? |
| 18:33.23 | Mikma | it was svn checkout so should be complete |
| 18:33.25 | Moondrake[G5] | yep, thanks mikma *cuddle* |
| 18:35.21 | Mikma | let's try this one and see does it zip em up |
| 18:38.23 | CIA-11 | 03mikma 07otravi * r9495 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/oUF.toc: oUF2 .toc |
| 18:38.46 | Mikma | let's see teh files :) |
| 18:39.12 | Mikma | nope, not in there. |
| 18:39.47 | Mikma | shit happens lol |
| 18:40.02 | Mikma | haste: why don't you trunk oUF2? :) |
| 18:41.30 | Mikma | oSkin = otravi foreSkin? ;D |
| 18:44.13 | Gngsk | oooh yeeeaaa! |
| 18:45.57 | Neronix | where'd Wobin disappear to |
| 18:46.02 | Neronix | ~seen Wobin |
| 18:46.16 | purl | wobin is currently on #gnu-kbsd, last said: 'prbably not important :)'. |
| 18:46.17 | Mikma | ~seen [wobin] |
| 18:46.20 | purl | [wobin] <i=Wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 18d 9h 55m 39s ago, saying: '"I'm cheap. And Fun"'. |
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| 18:54.46 | FISKER_Q | i love lag |
| 18:56.16 | evl | i love carpet |
| 18:56.20 | evl | i love lamp also |
| 18:56.44 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r9496 10Squishy/ (6 files): |
| 18:56.44 | CIA-11 | Squishy: |
| 18:56.44 | CIA-11 | - if the unit you're casting a spell on dies while casting, you'll now have an alert message (missing chinese and korean localization). |
| 18:56.44 | CIA-11 | - small priority increase for raid officers, as we want to keep them alive. |
| 18:57.55 | CIA-11 | 03laric * r9497 10AoFHeal/ (AoFHeal.lua AoFHeal.toc AoFHeal_locale.lua): |
| 18:57.55 | CIA-11 | AoFHeal: |
| 18:57.56 | CIA-11 | - halway through the priority handling |
| 18:57.56 | CIA-11 | - readded rosterlib. found my errors |
| 18:58.22 | evl | ckknight: i cannot get Glory to fire the GLORY_OBJECTIVEATTACKED events, any idea what I might be doing wrong? http://pastey.net/486 |
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| 19:04.47 | FISKER_Q | what is the "Sound" feature under assist in oRA2? |
| 19:06.37 | evl | Are event names case-sensitve? |
| 19:07.05 | hyperChipmunk | they ought to be |
| 19:07.13 | evl | yes/no? :) |
| 19:07.34 | hyperChipmunk | I haven't looked into it precisely, but I'd say yes |
| 19:07.35 | Neronix | yes |
| 19:08.02 | FISKER_Q | Bugwing Lag ftw |
| 19:08.02 | Neronix | You should be registering for Glory_ObjectiveAttacked, not GLORY_OBJECTIVEATTACKED |
| 19:08.08 | evl | problem found, thanks |
| 19:08.22 | evl | why are Ace events in Capital case when every other Blizzard event is in caps? |
| 19:08.28 | Kebinusan | hmm bgfu doesnt let you click on things in the dropdown anymore |
| 19:08.41 | Neronix | To distinguish custom events from Blizzy events easily |
| 19:09.11 | evl | but every event from a library is always prefixed with LibraryName_ anyway |
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| 19:10.40 | Tuplad | Can I disable MT frames in oRA2 ? |
| 19:11.24 | Neronix | evl: ckknight has more reasons |
| 19:11.41 | evl | Very well, glad to figure out where the error was :) |
| 19:15.41 | Gngsk | wow, I'm on some random guild's ventrillo, the people who apparently compiled that gatherer database that kebinusan linked earlier |
| 19:16.24 | FISKER_Q | this is so retarded |
| 19:16.26 | Gngsk | had to leave, felt too weird |
| 19:17.53 | vhaarr | It should be possible to click raid icons to select the player. |
| 19:19.14 | Mikk | An addon might be able to do that by monitoring when they're getting set |
| 19:19.50 | Kebinusan | heh comments on mh3 -" |
| 19:19.50 | Kebinusan | You should use mobhealth3 over mobhealth2 if you're already using Ace2 addons. I avoid those where possible, but once you install your first one, you maximize your benefits by installing Ace2 addons wherever you can. Ace is like fungus that way, it just showed up in SCT. |
| 19:19.54 | Mikk | (As long as there's no hunter pets around with the same name as players >.<) |
| 19:20.00 | Mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4dhsG2SjGE |
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| 19:20.06 | Mikma | cooooooooool video :D |
| 19:20.07 | Kebinusan | Ace is like a fungus... I like that |
| 19:20.11 | Mikma | check it out :) |
| 19:20.38 | hyperChipmunk | that's awesome |
| 19:20.44 | hyperChipmunk | the fungus thing |
| 19:28.03 | Gngsk | eh, there were bridges in IF! |
| 19:28.51 | Gngsk | wow IF looked a lot different in alpha |
| 19:29.14 | Mikk | bridges? yes, there are bridges in IF. what are you talking about? =) |
| 19:29.17 | Mikma | Gngsk: yeah it did |
| 19:29.26 | Mikma | <2220> <Mikma> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4dhsG2SjGE |
| 19:29.27 | Mikma | this one |
| 19:29.30 | Mikma | wow alpha video |
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| 19:32.40 | dreyruugr | What's up with the svn web interface not working? |
| 19:32.47 | Mikk | it's disabled for the time being |
| 19:33.48 | dreyruugr | meh |
| 19:35.34 | phyber | oRA2 error, reporting for duty: [2006/08/29 20:34:46-228]: Leader\Invite.lua:186: bad argument #2 to `find' (string expected, got nil) |
| 19:35.46 | Mikma | update update! |
| 19:36.16 | phyber | happened when the party leader left and I became leader. |
| 19:36.18 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/legendary.jpg |
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| 19:37.40 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 19:38.30 | phyber | http://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_082906_203730.jpg |
| 19:39.56 | phyber | ah, I see. |
| 19:39.59 | phyber | some typo. |
| 19:40.04 | haste | Mikma: I have my reasons |
| 19:40.14 | Mikma | haste: ok they suck. trunk it |
| 19:40.25 | phyber | L["^([^%s]+) has joined the raid group$"] != L["^([^%s]+) has joined the raid group"] |
| 19:40.28 | phyber | :) |
| 19:40.58 | Mikma | phyber: typo on your end or oRA2 |
| 19:41.11 | phyber | in oRA2 |
| 19:41.12 | [NI]Machine | i got parts for a new computer today! |
| 19:41.24 | phyber | since I don't know which it should be, I'll leave it to haste ;) |
| 19:41.49 | phyber | also, I like how IsRaidLeader() returns true even if you're only in a party :/ |
| 19:42.03 | Mikma | phyber: fix it and commit |
| 19:42.41 | [NI]Machine | the psu died on me and the graphics board seem a dud too |
| 19:42.47 | [NI]Machine | i'm not that pissed |
| 19:44.11 | [Ammo] | typo my end :) |
| 19:44.16 | phyber | well, i'll commit my fix, if it's not liked it can be reverted ;) |
| 19:45.00 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r9498 10oRA2/oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: invite typo fixes |
| 19:45.03 | [Ammo] | I just comitted fix |
| 19:45.07 | phyber | oh noes. |
| 19:45.09 | phyber | ah, good. |
| 19:45.12 | phyber | mine failed :) |
| 19:45.14 | FtH|eagle | haha |
| 19:45.36 | phyber | my commit failed, not the fix ;) |
| 19:46.52 | Mikma | lies! |
| 19:47.40 | phyber | [Ammo]: you mind if I add an UnitInRaid("player") check to that function? |
| 19:47.45 | phyber | since IsRaidLeader() is retarded |
| 19:48.30 | [Ammo] | what function? and yes I do mind |
| 19:48.54 | phyber | the one you just fixed. |
| 19:49.00 | [Ammo] | I fixed some locales |
| 19:49.03 | [Ammo] | I fixed no function |
| 19:49.29 | [Ammo] | and IsRaidLeader is an excellent check |
| 19:49.33 | [Ammo] | because only the leader can promote |
| 19:49.58 | phyber | but it returns 1 if you're not in a raid and you're just the leader of a party. |
| 19:50.07 | [Ammo] | it shouldn't |
| 19:50.21 | Mikk | it does |
| 19:50.28 | Mikk | after you've been in a party anyway |
| 19:50.43 | [Ammo] | fighting gothik will fix afterwards |
| 19:50.44 | Mikk | quite a few APIs keep returning what they were returning when you were in a party last |
| 19:51.28 | phyber | I've not been in a raid today, I just became leader of this party, which is when I noticed that error. |
| 19:54.44 | CIA-11 | 03otravi * r9499 10oCD/hooks.lua: oCD - Fixed typo preventing it from displaying some cooldowns on warriors and druids. |
| 19:57.32 | phyber | oSkins is great :) |
| 19:57.58 | haste | what the hell... I logged on my old server, since I still had some chars there |
| 19:58.15 | haste | and everyone was in 'Grief Epix', and not Cuddle Vendor :o |
| 20:03.05 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r9500 10oRA2/oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: gotta please the masses. |
| 20:04.58 | haste | phyber: I'll post it on the forum if it's error free :p |
| 20:05.05 | haste | tomorrow or something |
| 20:11.27 | Thrae | maia:ping |
| 20:12.04 | CIA-11 | 03kyahx * r9501 10FuBar_FuXPFu/ (. FuBar_FuXPFu.lua FuBar_FuXPFu.toc): FuBar_FuXPFu: Adding libs so it can run on FuBar2 all by itself. |
| 20:13.11 | Mikma | Kyahx: what about ace1? does it need it anymore? |
| 20:13.17 | Kyahx | Yes |
| 20:13.22 | Mikma | crap, mod it! |
| 20:13.25 | Kyahx | Just dosent need FuBar-Compat-1.2 |
| 20:13.27 | Kyahx | lol |
| 20:13.38 | Mikma | sweet. mod it! |
| 20:13.44 | Gngsk | you! |
| 20:14.00 | Mikma | yes, you! Kyahx! |
| 20:14.07 | Kyahx | psh |
| 20:14.34 | Kyahx | well haste, I think I've effectively stolen your UI |
| 20:14.36 | Kyahx | and I am pleased |
| 20:15.22 | evl | ckknight_: is the 302.5 seconds accurate? all my timers seem to bit a little bit too fast, or is it different for AV? |
| 20:15.40 | phyber | haste: not seen any errors so far, just good looking popups :) |
| 20:16.03 | haste | Kyahx: hehe |
| 20:16.32 | Kyahx | I can't get my chat-timestams working with SimpleCombatLog thou =/ |
| 20:16.41 | Kyahx | for right aligned |
| 20:16.51 | haste | :3 |
| 20:18.01 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r9502 10oRA2/oRA2/ (Optional/Resurrection.lua Participant/Resurrection.lua): oRA2: better support for reloadui |
| 20:19.05 | Mikma | haste-ui for all! |
| 20:19.12 | Mikma | share us teh addon :P |
| 20:19.22 | haste | It bascily is shared tho' |
| 20:20.11 | Mikma | oSkin? |
| 20:20.18 | Mikma | otravi foreskin ;) |
| 20:20.38 | FISKER_Q | [Ammo] |
| 20:20.44 | FISKER_Q | what does the Assist->Sound function do? |
| 20:21.06 | sbu | *sigh* |
| 20:21.09 | sbu | server down |
| 20:22.45 | haste | Mikma: ;< |
| 20:24.22 | Mikma | haste: whaaat? :) |
| 20:25.25 | Mikma | haste: you should add the same option as ag did, healthbar colored as classcolor :) (oUF2) |
| 20:25.37 | CIA-11 | 03moonsorrow * r9503 10XRS/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:25.38 | CIA-11 | XRS: |
| 20:25.38 | CIA-11 | - fix for ai, motw etc. in dewdrop |
| 20:25.38 | CIA-11 | - added afk bar (needs oRA2 or ctra) |
| 20:25.38 | CIA-11 | - added roster lib |
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| 20:26.08 | Mikma | hi Andalia |
| 20:26.38 | [Ammo] | Fisker: plays a sound when you receive an assist request :) |
| 20:26.47 | Moondrake[G5] | ammo? |
| 20:26.56 | Mikma | [Ammo]: planning on changing the name? ;) |
| 20:27.45 | Tekkub | erf |
| 20:27.51 | Mikma | Tekkub! |
| 20:27.52 | haste | Mikma: so much planned |
| 20:27.57 | [Ammo] | change what name? |
| 20:28.17 | Mikma | [Ammo]: wasn't it you who wanted to rename oRA |
| 20:28.23 | [Ammo] | naaah |
| 20:28.24 | [Ammo] | same name |
| 20:28.28 | [Ammo] | just lose the otravi :p |
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| 20:28.34 | [Ammo] | make it Optional Raid Assist :) |
| 20:28.35 | Mikma | yeah that's what i meant |
| 20:28.37 | Mikma | noobie! ;) |
| 20:28.56 | Mikma | optional = good too |
| 20:28.57 | Tekkub | TORA |
| 20:29.00 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r9504 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: aggro alert now shows who is aggroing you. |
| 20:29.02 | Tekkub | That Other Raid Assist |
| 20:29.10 | Mikma | TORA TORA TORA! |
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| 20:29.49 | Mikma | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066473/ |
| 20:29.50 | Jarenthal | I miss FuBar. |
| 20:29.57 | Mikma | sorry, it was Tora! Tora! Tora! |
| 20:30.22 | maia | Mikma, married yet? |
| 20:30.30 | Moondrake[G5] | Tekkub? |
| 20:30.39 | Tekkub | nandattebayo? |
| 20:30.45 | Mikma | maia: in 2 weeks |
| 20:31.01 | Mikma | well, 1.5 weeks |
| 20:31.37 | Mikma | maia: but i still managed to "rapeir" Bartender2 shapeshift barswap ;D |
| 20:31.51 | maia | :) |
| 20:32.26 | Mikma | maia: check out the extremely ugly hack at the end of the .lua ;D |
| 20:32.29 | Mikma | you will cry. |
| 20:32.41 | maia | I dont want to see it! |
| 20:32.52 | Mikma | yes you do |
| 20:32.58 | Kyahx | http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/3267/kyuisemifinal082906hy0.jpg |
| 20:32.59 | Kyahx | mmmm |
| 20:33.01 | Mikma | that way you can feel the pain and share it |
| 20:33.21 | Mikma | and i need PEOPLE TO TEST IT! :( |
| 20:33.30 | Moondrake[G5] | little BigWigs question, what does the range sliders exactly do? |
| 20:33.45 | Mikma | haste: does your skin have the bottombar gfx? |
| 20:33.47 | Tekkub | changes the combat log range for creatures |
| 20:34.26 | Gngsk | can't find the blizz readycheck code, any clues? |
| 20:34.39 | vhaarr | anyone here with access to the files repo? |
| 20:34.42 | vhaarr | there are 2x bigwigs there |
| 20:34.44 | vhaarr | for some reason |
| 20:34.50 | vhaarr | and one is 400kb too small |
| 20:35.11 | Mikma | Kyahx: GAH!!!! that ChatEditBox is sexy. GIMME!!! |
| 20:35.17 | vhaarr | Tekkub? |
| 20:35.17 | Kyahx | lol |
| 20:35.21 | Moondrake[G5] | kk other little bigwigs question, was at vaelestraz today and i was on the other side of the leader who broadcasts BigWigs messages, why does he not get my messages of people with BA on my side?^^ |
| 20:35.23 | Tekkub | whine at clad, he's not taken down my PRT yet either :P |
| 20:35.36 | Mikma | ~tryme |
| 20:35.38 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at Jarenthal and fires. Click. |
| 20:35.47 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r9505 10RosterLib-2.0/RosterLib-2.0.toc: RosterLib-2.0: adding toc so library can be part of that strange !!!Libraries file (someone needs to do that though) |
| 20:35.50 | vhaarr | at Jarenthal ? :P |
| 20:35.53 | Tekkub | you both running the same version? |
| 20:35.56 | Gngsk | Kyahx, that needs to be added to oSkin :P |
| 20:36.03 | Kyahx | *shrug* |
| 20:36.05 | Mikma | yes |
| 20:36.10 | Tekkub | I need to push a new copy out to WoWI/CG... is the current trunk stable? |
| 20:36.11 | Mikma | that and the bottomtexture |
| 20:36.14 | Moondrake[G5] | nope, he had one revision down, but sync test works |
| 20:36.15 | Mikma | both of them |
| 20:36.32 | Tekkub | sync test doesn't mean much besides comm works |
| 20:36.47 | Tekkub | if the modules are not the same revision, no guarentees |
| 20:36.50 | Moondrake[G5] | k, so we have to have the exact same version |
| 20:36.56 | haste | Mikma: my bottomUI is a frame |
| 20:37.06 | maia | Kyahx: I like that screenshot. I can see Squishy and Detox :) |
| 20:37.14 | Kyahx | :P |
| 20:37.21 | [Ammo] | just run a version check |
| 20:37.25 | [Ammo] | you can see who needs to update |
| 20:37.26 | Mikma | haste: detailed instructions pleeeeahze! |
| 20:37.28 | Tekkub | you need the same version of your zone... if the only difference are in BWL and you're in MC with the same MC versions, you're fine |
| 20:37.30 | maia | Kyahx: is the chat input frame a part of oSkin? |
| 20:37.35 | Kyahx | no |
| 20:37.36 | haste | Mikma: http://pastey.net/418 |
| 20:37.43 | maia | or, does oSkin do more than only the rolling frame? |
| 20:37.43 | Kyahx | its part of my custom UI mod |
| 20:37.44 | haste | Kyahx: it should be ;) |
| 20:37.45 | Tekkub | ammo, should I push out the current trunck to the sites? |
| 20:37.46 | Mikma | haste: or make some sick addon for to do that |
| 20:37.49 | Moondrake[G5] | maia: so no chance of geting whole frame in squishy back? you don't have an ealier version on your HardDrive by any luck?^^ |
| 20:37.59 | haste | maia: it changes the StaticPopups also |
| 20:38.00 | FtH|eagle | [Ammo]: you know what would be really cool? updating the modules of other people over the comm chan :P |
| 20:38.06 | Mikma | Kyahx: <haste> Kyahx: it should be ;) |
| 20:38.09 | Mikma | Kyahx: go add it! |
| 20:38.12 | Tekkub | maia... you removed the right click menu from squishy didn't you? |
| 20:38.13 | Mikma | it's sexyh |
| 20:38.16 | maia | Moondrake[G5]: not at the moment. You can edit the code though, should be easy. |
| 20:38.22 | Kebinusan | You should borg in class channels to ora |
| 20:38.26 | [Ammo] | FtH|eagle: that would also be impossible |
| 20:38.27 | maia | Tekkub: yeah, as its now fubard. |
| 20:38.40 | haste | Kebinusan: why in oRA? it can be done with a seperate mod ;) |
| 20:38.41 | Tekkub | you should put it back, some of us don't clutter our FuBar with menu plugins because we have ModMenuTuFu ^^ |
| 20:38.42 | Moondrake[G5] | could you send me a pm on the forums with the code to change? |
| 20:38.47 | [Ammo] | yeah it has no place in oRA |
| 20:38.49 | Moondrake[G5] | @maia |
| 20:38.59 | Mikma | haste: why didn't you add that script in oSkins? :) would have suited in perfectly |
| 20:39.07 | Kebinusan | I dunno Im speaking out my arse |
| 20:39.21 | haste | Mikma: 'cause I don't want to add a option to disable it |
| 20:39.22 | maia | Moondrake[G5]: edit frames.lua, seach for all 3 lines that contain "unitframeheight" - it's a simple calculation, just use a static number instead. |
| 20:39.23 | Kebinusan | Im too lazy to get my guild to download classchannels |
| 20:39.36 | Tekkub | it could be done in theory... but I think it's solving an issue that could be fixed easier ways |
| 20:39.39 | Moondrake[G5] | maia: kk thanks i'll try ;) |
| 20:39.47 | Mikma | haste: DON'T ADD OPTION! :D |
| 20:39.58 | Mikma | people can just edit the .lua and remove the needed function |
| 20:40.09 | maia | Tekkub: well, then use ModMenuTuFu for Squishy configuration - not seeing the problem? |
| 20:40.14 | Tekkub | besides maia, rightclicking on the frame is the most logical way to get to the options, you shouldn't remove that |
| 20:40.24 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 20:40.34 | vhaarr | I don't like the squishy fbp |
| 20:40.36 | Tekkub | the more points of access to the configuration the better |
| 20:40.39 | vhaarr | it's just a waste of space |
| 20:40.48 | maia | Tekkub: I removed that option about 6 weeks ago, noone ever had a problem with removing it. well, people HAD problems while it was there as they accidentially clicked it. |
| 20:40.55 | vhaarr | it should be a seperate addon, like FuBar_TinyTipFu |
| 20:41.02 | Tekkub | *points at keyboard shortcuts, menus, and toolbar buttons that all do the same thing |
| 20:41.08 | haste | Mikma: the other reason is that my bottom script is a _little_ larger :p |
| 20:41.19 | maia | vhaarr: IMHO FuBar needs a way to hide buttons without deactivating the addon. thats all. |
| 20:41.26 | haste | Mikma: like.. 171 lines of code :p |
| 20:41.33 | vhaarr | maia: then how would I access the options? |
| 20:41.45 | Mikma | haste: well make it a separate addon then but please share it as whole :) |
| 20:41.46 | Tekkub | fubar still thinks plugins are wholey dependant on it |
| 20:41.46 | maia | vhaarr: reenable it again. |
| 20:41.49 | vhaarr | heh |
| 20:41.51 | Mikma | oBottom |
| 20:41.57 | Mikma | oDown |
| 20:42.07 | Mikma | oSex |
| 20:42.09 | Mikma | :D |
| 20:42.11 | Tekkub | where as most of em anymore are just using it as a access mechanism, not the top framework for the mob |
| 20:42.39 | maia | well, the problem is that FuBarPlugin is great for minimap icons. People without FuBar like that. People with FuBar might want to hide the stuff - which isnt possible at the moment. |
| 20:42.42 | Mikma | maia: did you check out the code? :) |
| 20:42.48 | Tekkub | maia, how bout a tiny menu button in the corner of the frame then :) |
| 20:43.02 | phyber | Tekkub: could you put a new version of BigWigs on WoWI so that people stop bitching at me, please? :) |
| 20:43.04 | FISKER_Q | btw [Ammo] you got a flyspray section up for ora2? |
| 20:43.04 | maia | Mikma: no, I dont play a class that shapeshifts. |
| 20:43.17 | maia | Tekkub: the frame collapses nowadays. |
| 20:43.22 | Mikma | maia: rogue? paladin? warrior? :D |
| 20:43.30 | Tekkub | phyber, I've fucking asked 3 times already if the current trunk is okey to put up there and noone replied |
| 20:43.32 | maia | Mikma: only playing priest. |
| 20:43.36 | Mikma | hmm |
| 20:43.46 | phyber | Tekkub: ahh, well I'm using it and had no problems. |
| 20:43.49 | Mikma | i was thinking of checking out one thing with priests |
| 20:43.51 | Tekkub | okey |
| 20:44.02 | FISKER_Q | since the new site for the svn was out i don't care much for wowi :P |
| 20:44.10 | FISKER_Q | just tell them to fetch the newest bigwigs from the site |
| 20:44.14 | phyber | but then, the only modules I've tried go as far as Vael. |
| 20:44.20 | maia | Tekkub: why isnt ModMenuTuFu able to hide stuff from the FuBar which doesnt display anything but an icon/title? |
| 20:44.20 | phyber | nothing past that. |
| 20:44.35 | Tekkub | WoWI needs a "grab from the AceSVN zips" option for authors :) |
| 20:44.40 | maia | Tekkub: that way one icon would replace all config stuff, including BigWigs, oRA etc. |
| 20:45.06 | Tekkub | users have to manually do that maia, some of the plugins have tooltip info, like BW's |
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| 20:45.36 | maia | Tekkub: well, ModMenuToFu could display a toggle for each addon to hide it in the bar. |
| 20:46.00 | maia | I could easily get rid of about 10 icons then. |
| 20:46.15 | FISKER_Q | btw is the new website for the svn only for trunk addons? |
| 20:46.18 | Tekkub | just turn them off.... |
| 20:46.30 | Mikma | fister_q: yes |
| 20:46.35 | Tekkub | MMTF doesn't look for fubar mods, just aceconsole tables |
| 20:46.38 | FISKER_Q | :I |
| 20:47.53 | maia | Tekkub: turn what off? the addons? or is there a way to keep addons active but not visible on the fubar? |
| 20:48.03 | Tekkub | hide the fu buttons |
| 20:48.23 | maia | how? |
| 20:48.27 | Tekkub | "Hide" |
| 20:48.48 | vhaarr | Tekkub: I think there is both r9464 and r9465 of BW in the files section because the revisions were so close that the script didn't finish the first one before it started the second. |
| 20:48.48 | maia | hmm, never seen that option. |
| 20:48.48 | maia | possible I just missed it. |
| 20:48.58 | vhaarr | Tekkub: well it seems reasonable, at least |
| 20:48.59 | maia | well, why are people then having a problem with Squishy having a Fubar icon? |
| 20:49.00 | Tekkub | I've seen it in a few... like... Squishy... |
| 20:49.22 | maia | oh, wait - if you hide it, how do you ever get it back again? |
| 20:49.26 | Tekkub | because people are stupid? |
| 20:49.49 | Tekkub | right click on the fubar and go active it that way I'd assume... |
| 20:50.06 | maia | no, "active" toggles "standby". |
| 20:50.11 | Tekkub | FBP just needs a "this is a stub plugin" option |
| 20:50.13 | maia | it doesnt :Show() the icon again |
| 20:50.24 | Tekkub | no clue then, ask ckk |
| 20:50.34 | maia | well, I think there is no way. |
| 20:51.00 | maia | also, if you uncheck the "active" setting, the icon is gone. forever. reenabling the addon won't show the icon again. |
| 20:51.00 | FISKER_Q | wtb wow sandbox for addons :( |
| 20:51.23 | Laric | maia is it ok if i copy some of your code from detox? |
| 20:51.26 | vhaarr | there's a sandbox on the svn? |
| 20:51.31 | maia | Laric: what for? |
| 20:51.39 | FISKER_Q | vhaarr i ment ingame sandbox :) |
| 20:51.41 | Laric | the priority handling parts :P |
| 20:51.46 | FISKER_Q | cause the loginserver for EU is down |
| 20:51.50 | FISKER_Q | and i want to test an addon |
| 20:51.51 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 20:51.52 | maia | Laric: what do you need it for? |
| 20:52.01 | Laric | my healing addon i am coding |
| 20:52.48 | FISKER_Q | What? Why would anyone ask for permission? :P |
| 20:52.49 | maia | Laric: that AoHeal or something like that, right? |
| 20:52.55 | Laric | yes |
| 20:53.36 | maia | I havent taken a close look at the addon yet, but I wonder if it wouldnt make more sense to add stuff to Squishy instead of duplicating priority code and a healing addon? |
| 20:54.27 | Laric | it isnt behaving the same way as squichy |
| 20:54.36 | Laric | that is why i continue it |
| 20:55.00 | Thrae | maia: Did you ever merge those changes I made in branches to Squishy? |
| 20:55.21 | maia | Thrae: I redid them. Your code looked terribly when not hiding the backdrop ;p |
| 20:55.44 | Thrae | Well that's why I branched it, heh |
| 20:56.52 | Laric | I'll remove that code that i nicked again then. |
| 20:57.48 | maia | Thrae: well, test the new version. added lots of stuff. |
| 20:58.02 | Thrae | maia: Yeah I just checked it out |
| 20:58.51 | maia | who's maintaining the !!!Libraries? |
| 20:59.22 | Mikk | look at the version history? |
| 20:59.29 | Thrae | Different people |
| 20:59.39 | Thrae | It was originally Rophy who made it |
| 21:00.39 | maia | well, RosterLib can be added now I guess. |
| 21:01.25 | CIA-11 | 03sano * r9506 10!!!Libraries/ (!!!Libraries.toc Libs/): !!!Libraries: Added PaintChips and CandyBar |
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| 21:10.53 | haste | heh |
| 21:11.00 | haste | It's 23:10, I have to get up at 05:00 tomorrow |
| 21:11.11 | haste | and here I am - eating tacos... which I just made |
| 21:12.05 | vhaarr | hehe |
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| 21:13.28 | Mikma | mm |
| 21:13.31 | Mikma | i can't log in :( |
| 21:13.35 | Mikma | freaking maintenancenight |
| 21:13.40 | haste | hehe |
| 21:14.16 | [Ammo] | hmm getting memorychurn of 2.2k/s on perfectraid |
| 21:14.32 | [Ammo] | guess I should go test the ace2 version soonish :) |
| 21:14.47 | Mikk | you call that "churn"? =) |
| 21:14.53 | haste | does it actually display things now? |
| 21:15.13 | Mikk | i mean.. you can play for a full day without hitting a GC :-P |
| 21:15.23 | evl | haste: those BG timers soon done btw :) |
| 21:15.34 | haste | evl: so slow! :p |
| 21:15.38 | haste | your worse then me ^^ |
| 21:15.40 | evl | I have never ever had a less friendly development environment than WoW + lua |
| 21:15.48 | Tekkub | Mikk, lies! |
| 21:15.50 | evl | reload, reload, reload, reload |
| 21:15.54 | evl | madness i tell you |
| 21:15.57 | Tekkub | the default UI churns a lot :) |
| 21:16.12 | evl | haste: i got a dayjob and this is my first lines of lua ever ;) |
| 21:16.33 | haste | evl: I travel four hours each day, back and forth for 90 - 180 min of maths |
| 21:16.37 | Mikk | evl: wowbench! |
| 21:16.40 | Mikk | =) |
| 21:16.55 | evl | haste: four hours, move to the city man :( |
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| 21:17.09 | [Ammo] | well tekSupport is telling me 2.2kib/s increase from perfectraidframe onupdate |
| 21:17.25 | [Ammo] | it's the biggest onupdate increaser I have |
| 21:17.26 | haste | evl: IT's only one hour to the place, but it's by buss and I have to wait between stops :p |
| 21:17.35 | [Ammo] | second biggest is perfecttargets with 0.2kib/s |
| 21:17.50 | haste | evl: and I am looking for a new flat there, not that I've found any :( |
| 21:18.10 | evl | haste: I'd kill myself, I have an appartment two blocks from the castle and my job is 4 blocks away |
| 21:18.10 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r9507 10BattleChat/ (BattleChat.lua BattleChat.toc libs/): |
| 21:18.11 | CIA-11 | BattleChat: |
| 21:18.11 | CIA-11 | - Big Update. |
| 21:18.11 | CIA-11 | - Border |
| 21:18.11 | CIA-11 | - Textures |
| 21:18.13 | CIA-11 | - Fully scrollable |
| 21:18.15 | CIA-11 | Maybe I will leave the addon the way it is now because Grayhoof has developped his own version very nice while I was away. |
| 21:18.19 | Tekkub | PTarg is better than PRaid? kickass |
| 21:18.34 | Tekkub | PTarg has to do a lot more... it's more time than memory |
| 21:18.48 | haste | evl: well... I'm not paying 4k a month to live in Sarpsborg :p |
| 21:18.59 | haste | Could have gotten a nice little place in Oslo for that sum |
| 21:19.17 | evl | Yeah, my flat is brand new cost something like 2m it's still just 5900 a month |
| 21:19.26 | evl | owning > renting |
| 21:19.28 | [Ammo] | Tekkub yeah it east quite a bit of time |
| 21:19.42 | [Ammo] | but I wonder what is causing the PRaid memory inc |
| 21:19.45 | haste | evl: depends on how long you'll be living there tho' |
| 21:19.46 | [Ammo] | it used to be less |
| 21:19.54 | evl | haste: i'm on year 26, working out just fine ;) |
| 21:20.00 | Tekkub | not true ammo :) |
| 21:20.02 | haste | imo if it's three years plus, take a loan and buy it |
| 21:20.17 | evl | i made 450k off my first flat in 3 years :P |
| 21:20.21 | Tekkub | it used to REPORT as less, because the all-update timer was constanly being changed |
| 21:20.36 | Tekkub | but now the timer is fixed and it just counts down... |
| 21:21.06 | Tekkub | so instead of saying. we have 4 targets, so update in .4 sec... it calls the update every .1 sec, but ignores 3 of them |
| 21:21.12 | CIA-11 | 03andalia * r9508 10BattleChat/BattleChat.toc: |
| 21:21.12 | CIA-11 | BattleChat: |
| 21:21.12 | CIA-11 | - Toc-Update |
| 21:21.19 | haste | evl: I'm still a poor student :p |
| 21:21.30 | Tekkub | so tS's numbers for the all-update are now a lot more accurate |
| 21:21.30 | evl | haste: understandable |
| 21:21.50 | haste | and since I like studying useless stuff I'll probably be a couple of years also |
| 21:22.06 | evl | Yeah, I wish I could do that |
| 21:22.13 | evl | but you get addicted to a steady income |
| 21:22.18 | haste | thinking of taking a year of japanese, to then go on a little trip to japan ;) |
| 21:22.21 | evl | anyone else got EU auth problems? |
| 21:22.35 | haste | evl: look at what day it is |
| 21:22.40 | evl | haste: Been there twice, and thinking of living there some day, coolest place ever. |
| 21:22.50 | evl | haste: but it usually goes down later? |
| 21:22.57 | Moondrake[G5] | evl: no, login fine here |
| 21:23.03 | haste | login server lives it's own life |
| 21:23.17 | evl | stuck at authenticating. |
| 21:23.40 | Moondrake[G5] | evl: forget what i said, as of now i'm stuck too |
| 21:23.44 | evl | :D |
| 21:23.45 | haste | evl: been like that for 1h plus now |
| 21:24.03 | evl | Takes ages to do any code changes in WoW... |
| 21:24.07 | evl | I'm used to ruby etcv. |
| 21:24.11 | Moondrake[G5] | say guys, how's oRA2 coming, ready to be used? |
| 21:24.13 | evl | press f5, works: yes/no |
| 21:24.25 | evl | haste: do you use WoWBench or similar`? |
| 21:24.29 | haste | nope |
| 21:24.34 | haste | I drycode - then fix it in-game |
| 21:24.50 | haste | and if I can access the servers I code in tinypad :p |
| 21:25.18 | haste | there is a reason I have 189 pages on my tinypad |
| 21:25.21 | evl | guess it's DoTA time. |
| 21:25.40 | evl | I'll have to finish up the bg timer project tomorrow... |
| 21:26.16 | evl | Any events that fire after PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD? |
| 21:26.17 | haste | I'm hacking up WordPress ;3 |
| 21:26.28 | evl | Yeah speaking of |
| 21:26.34 | evl | Fucking hell I want that Hobit.org theme |
| 21:26.36 | evl | it's sweet :( |
| 21:26.49 | evl | http://hogit.org/ even |
| 21:27.06 | haste | MEETINGSTONE_CHANGED btw |
| 21:27.53 | evl | My problem is that Glorylib registers the possible BG objectives on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD but I need to update existing conflicting objectives after they are avail |
| 21:27.54 | haste | evl: I'm not a fan of 'hey, let's use XXXXX amounts of gfx' |
| 21:28.06 | Mikma | haste: c'mon, make it an addon :D |
| 21:28.33 | evl | haste: then don't play WoW :D |
| 21:28.56 | Moondrake[G5] | haste: how can i change the font color in oUF? but only that of the char name |
| 21:29.29 | haste | Moondrake[G5]: open the .lua file and search for "people" without qutes ofc |
| 21:29.32 | haste | quotes* |
| 21:30.14 | haste | Mikma: make what an add on? |
| 21:30.50 | Mikma | haste: all your things to mod the bottom of the screen :D |
| 21:31.10 | haste | Mikma: I don't want to support a userbase :( |
| 21:31.11 | Moondrake[G5] | haste: nah, want no raid coloring, simply changing white to another color |
| 21:31.26 | haste | Moondrake[G5]: just use that code, and make it what you want |
| 21:31.32 | Moondrake[G5] | kk thx |
| 21:31.50 | Kyahx|afk | Mikma: its not hard, I made the exact same thing in a matter of minutes =/ |
| 21:31.54 | Kyahx|afk | the bottom UI |
| 21:32.09 | haste | Kyahx|afk: commit the editbox ;) |
| 21:32.13 | Kyahx|afk | later |
| 21:32.18 | haste | Mikma: but I'll add the bottom part tomorrow |
| 21:32.24 | Kyahx|afk | its borged into my base UI mod right now |
| 21:32.31 | haste | rawr |
| 21:32.36 | evl | uh, the new rogue 60 abils are crap? |
| 21:32.43 | evl | Disembowel == Eviscerate? |
| 21:32.44 | evl | wtf |
| 21:32.58 | haste | shamans are worse :p |
| 21:33.03 | Mikma | haste: make it a separate addon, that eliminates the part of supporting some :) |
| 21:33.08 | evl | Why rename Evisc?` |
| 21:33.16 | Kyahx|afk | but now, its time to eat delcious BBQ ribs |
| 21:33.26 | Tain | Disembowel is new. |
| 21:33.31 | frus | it's more dmg |
| 21:33.35 | frus | if deadly is on |
| 21:33.40 | frus | it's basically a buff for deadly poison |
| 21:33.56 | Mikma | disembowel? neat :D |
| 21:34.15 | evl | who wants deadly on ever? |
| 21:34.21 | haste | Mikma: it still contains much hardcoding tho' :p |
| 21:34.24 | evl | crippling + anesthetic |
| 21:34.31 | Tain | So far the early estimates on the proposed talents point to none of them improving Rogue raid damage. |
| 21:34.32 | Moondrake[G5] | haste: portrait=true working or is it only there for later use if someone wants it? |
| 21:34.39 | frus | & alot cooler animation ! |
| 21:34.40 | frus | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-rogue/images/spells/screenshots/disembowel.jpg |
| 21:34.43 | iSynic | I think that's why they did it evl. To add an incentive to use deadly. |
| 21:34.50 | frus | well, now there might be a reason to want deadly... |
| 21:34.54 | frus | that's exactly the point |
| 21:34.56 | haste | Moondrake[G5]: it works, but I've removed it completly on my next version |
| 21:35.05 | evl | How many times do you get to stack something five times in pvp? :P |
| 21:35.20 | evl | and then get off a finisher, seems unlikely to me |
| 21:35.30 | Tain | The only use is raid bosses. |
| 21:35.36 | evl | Hope so |
| 21:35.37 | Tain | And that's assuming they're not immune to poison. |
| 21:35.40 | Moondrake[G5] | haste: do you have a link for your latest versions since it's not put in the zip archive? |
| 21:35.48 | frus | well not everything has to be for pvp |
| 21:35.55 | frus | disembowel seems very nice for raid pve |
| 21:35.56 | haste | Moondrake[G5]: my latest version isn't on the SVN |
| 21:36.03 | haste | I'm changing quite a lot actually |
| 21:36.04 | frus | only 1 rogue can have deadly, & keep it up on 5 stacks |
| 21:36.09 | frus | & all rogues will benefit from that poison |
| 21:36.18 | frus | eviscrate is fine in pvp, it's not in raid pve |
| 21:36.29 | Tain | Rogues don't use Evis much in raids. |
| 21:36.34 | frus | exactly |
| 21:36.34 | Moondrake[G5] | haste: can't access svn |
| 21:36.37 | Tain | So they won't use Disembowel either. |
| 21:36.39 | haste | SnD is the shit in raids |
| 21:36.43 | evl | oh dear, shamans got some new crap, literaly |
| 21:36.43 | frus | not true |
| 21:36.46 | Tain | You lose damage if you evis instead of snd |
| 21:36.50 | frus | with SF you got more then points enough |
| 21:36.59 | frus | to keep snd up, & use a dmg finisher |
| 21:37.06 | Tain | Even if you have extra points you lose in the long run because you're wasting energy. |
| 21:37.12 | evl | I like SF but combat daggers are superior in raid :( |
| 21:37.22 | haste | Moondrake[G5]: http://wow.reaktio.net/oUF2.zip << my lastlog says that was psoted earlier today, not sure if Mikma has deleted it or not |
| 21:37.27 | frus | and inferior in pvp :p |
| 21:37.39 | Moondrake[G5] | mikma gave me that already |
| 21:37.39 | Tain | I know it sounds counterintuitive but people have shown it in combat logs. |
| 21:37.40 | evl | yes, the problem for all classes |
| 21:37.47 | frus | SF daggers is awesome in pvp, & very usefull in pve |
| 21:37.49 | Tain | You can do more damage over time by skipping Evis |
| 21:37.55 | haste | Moondrake[G5]: I would believe that is the latest SVN version |
| 21:38.03 | evl | I had a shadow priest i loved for pvp but I can't be arsed to heal people, especially when hung-over. And a class needs to be able to be played hung-over |
| 21:38.26 | Moondrake[G5] | haste: kk so for future version i'll simply ask some dev to zip it up and give it t me :D |
| 21:38.48 | haste | Moondrake[G5]: actually no, I'll trunk it |
| 21:38.56 | haste | and delete the current branch |
| 21:39.05 | Moondrake[G5] | oh ok, even better :D |
| 21:39.10 | frus | anyway, I'd use disembowel just for the antimation ! ;( |
| 21:39.42 | Moondrake[G5] | haste: i switched from lucen to ag today but it was hell to play in 40man raid, so i got yours from mikma and i'm delighted'^^ |
| 21:39.43 | haste | Moondrake[G5]: but it will take quite some time before I release a new version of oUF |
| 21:39.49 | phyber | are any of you guys purely running FuBar2 stuff, ie. no FuBar-compat-1.2 ? |
| 21:40.06 | vhaarr | nope >< |
| 21:40.08 | phyber | someone is saying that BagFu 2 fails without FuBar-compat-1.2 and Ace loaded. |
| 21:40.11 | vhaarr | Still need MrPlow converted. |
| 21:40.17 | vhaarr | Works fine for me. |
| 21:40.23 | evl | I really like oUF |
| 21:40.28 | evl | first party mod i've used for over a week :P |
| 21:40.30 | phyber | works for me too, but I have those things loaded ;) |
| 21:40.40 | vhaarr | ah, withOUT |
| 21:40.43 | vhaarr | no idea :P |
| 21:41.08 | haste | anyway, I need to get up in five hours |
| 21:41.11 | haste | so I'm going to bed, gn |
| 21:41.19 | evl | Cya |
| 21:41.57 | Moondrake[G5] | little question, i got some nasty lags due to memory increase, what can i use to monitor the addons? |
| 21:42.04 | evl | tekSupport |
| 21:42.54 | Moondrake[G5] | the only things cha-nged since my last setup (which worked really fast) is Perfecttagets, unit frames and XRS, i wonder if it's one of those |
| 21:43.11 | Moondrake[G5] | evl: thanks i'll check that when the login servers work again^^ |
| 21:45.53 | vhaarr | phyber: they probably didn't delete the old libs, or hm .. |
| 21:46.23 | vhaarr | phyber: they must be running FuBar1 |
| 21:47.22 | yacoob | Hm. |
| 21:47.22 | Neronix | I wonder how Andalia's new BC compares with EavesDrop in kb/s |
| 21:47.30 | yacoob | Is there a way to overload a function in lua? |
| 21:47.38 | Neronix | Yes |
| 21:48.07 | Neronix | Functions are the same as any other data type in lua |
| 21:49.04 | yacoob | Neronix: you know what I'm talking about :) would FuBar2CantRememberTheName:UpdateTexture = yaco_empty where yaco_empty is an empty function do? |
| 21:50.04 | Neronix | Probably |
| 21:50.14 | Neronix | or just even = function() end |
| 21:51.00 | yacoob | empty unnamed closure? :) |
| 21:51.47 | Neronix | in fact, I think a better solution is to just hook it |
| 21:51.59 | Neronix | hang on, I'll pastebin it |
| 21:52.01 | yacoob | I'm all ears. |
| 21:53.29 | tumetom | Iceroth did you ever try to get to hjyal i 1.12? |
| 21:54.09 | evl | someone tell me when auth is up agai n:P |
| 21:55.24 | tumetom | evl where are you from? |
| 21:55.32 | evl | EU |
| 21:55.36 | Neronix | ckknight_: Is the FuBar_Panel global? |
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| 21:56.00 | Neronix | s/global/a global class/ |
| 21:57.48 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r9509 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: fix for aggro alert |
| 21:59.03 | yacoob | Neronix: btw, will it be FuBarFrame2:UpdateTexture = ? or the name is different? |
| 21:59.21 | maia | Moondrake[G5]: theres a but in PerfectTargets, your FPS will freeze after about 20min |
| 22:01.47 | Neronix | yacoob: nope, instance of the class is elsewhere... |
| 22:01.54 | Moondrake[G5] | ahh thanks, i'll dump PT then |
| 22:02.09 | evl | Moondrake[G5]: you keeping tabs on the EU auth server? |
| 22:03.01 | snurre | it's dead :( |
| 22:03.41 | Moondrake[G5] | forget it, they have closed the login server so people won't login, server gets down at 2h cause they change the hardware on Servers Group2 |
| 22:03.50 | evl | aha |
| 22:03.53 | evl | what servers are group 2 |
| 22:03.59 | evl | or link please :D |
| 22:04.12 | Moondrake[G5] | you speaking which language? |
| 22:04.12 | Tekkub | bug in the current PTarg? |
| 22:04.13 | snurre | argent dawn, burning legion, dragonmaw, crushridge |
| 22:04.15 | snurre | etc |
| 22:04.23 | Tekkub | I fucking fixed that shit the night you people complained... |
| 22:04.31 | Tekkub | whiners... |
| 22:05.13 | Moondrake[G5] | itekkub: i'll check on raid thursday, but it was horrible to play today and the only things i changed were oUF PTarg and XRS^^ |
| 22:05.36 | Tekkub | the current PTarg from the SVN? |
| 22:06.11 | Moondrake[G5] | from the zip archive yes, wait i'll check my version |
| 22:06.25 | Moondrake[G5] | evl: 2nd group |
| 22:06.25 | Moondrake[G5] | Aegwynn, Alexstrasza, Alleria, Aman'Thul, Antonidas, Anub'arak, Baelgun, Balnazzar, Blackhand, Bloodfeather, Conseil des Ombres, Darksorrow, Das Syndikat, Defias Brotherhood, Der Rat von Dalaran, Destromath, Die Silberne Hand, Drek'Thar, Dun Morogh, Earthen, Ring, Eredar, Frostmourne, Frostwhisper, Frostwolf, Genjuros, Gorgonnash, Gul'dan, Haomarush, Hellscream, Kel'Thuzad, Khaz Modan, Kil'Jaeden, Krag'jin, Kult der Verdammten, La |
| 22:06.49 | Moondrake[G5] | closed: 30. August, 02:00 ? 14:00 CEST |
| 22:06.49 | Moondrake[G5] | 31. August, 03:00 ? 11:00 CEST |
| 22:07.22 | yacoob | Neronix: FuBar:GetTopmostBottomPanel? |
| 22:08.05 | evl | Moondrake[G5]: lightningsblade too? :) |
| 22:08.07 | Moondrake[G5] | tekkub: ups 9158^^i'll recheck with the 9430 on thursday |
| 22:08.22 | Moondrake[G5] | evl: Alleria |
| 22:08.23 | Tekkub | 300 commits off... *growl* |
| 22:08.33 | Moondrake[G5] | *whistle* |
| 22:08.59 | Tekkub | Revision: 9257 |
| 22:08.59 | Tekkub | Author: tekkub |
| 22:08.59 | Tekkub | Date: 11:10:50 PM, Saturday, August 26, 2006 |
| 22:08.59 | Tekkub | Message: |
| 22:08.59 | Tekkub | PerfectTargets |
| 22:09.00 | Tekkub | - Moving updates back to metrognome for the time being, I think AceEvent is too much overhead right now... will discuss with ckk |
| 22:09.01 | Moondrake[G5] | you guys are updating too fast :P |
| 22:09.03 | Tekkub | ---- |
| 22:09.05 | Tekkub | Modified : /trunk/PerfectTargets/Core.lua |
| 22:09.10 | yacoob | Neronix: FuBar:GetPanel(FuBar:GetTopmostBottomPanel()):UpdateTextures = function () end |
| 22:09.13 | yacoob | Neronix: ? :) |
| 22:09.25 | Moondrake[G5] | Tekkub: stop it, i bow to you great master |
| 22:09.27 | Neronix | I've worked it out |
| 22:09.50 | evl | Moondrake[G5]: but is Lightning's Blade in that group? |
| 22:10.08 | Tekkub | <--- gets bitchy when people don't check for updates before complaining about things... especially drastic perfomance-killing things |
| 22:10.29 | Moondrake[G5] | i postet the group^^and yes there's lightning blade in it, did the post not show in IRC?^^ |
| 22:10.41 | evl | no sadly it was broken up |
| 22:10.42 | maia | Tekkub: the problem isnt related to AceEvent/Metrognome |
| 22:10.49 | evl | last server was Verdammten, La |
| 22:10.50 | Tekkub | maia, yes it is :) |
| 22:11.01 | maia | Tekkub: after 20-25 min my FPS start dropping. |
| 22:11.04 | Tekkub | ckk's API for the scheduled events was confusing |
| 22:11.10 | Moondrake[G5] | Verdammten, Laughing Skull, Les Sentinelles, Lightning's Blade, Madmortem, Magtheridon, Malfurion, Mal'Ganis, Mannoroth, Nathrezim, Neptulon, Nera'thor, Nordrassil, Nozdormu, Onyxia, Perenolde, Proudmoore, Quel'Thalas, Ragnaros, , Rashgarroth, Ravencrest, Runetotem, Sen'jin, Shadow Moon, Shadowsong, Shattered Hand, Silvermoon, Skullcrusher, Spinebreaker, Stormrage, Stormreaver, Stormscale, Sylvanas, Terenas, Terrordar, The Maelstr |
| 22:11.12 | maia | Tekkub: and after 30min I'm down to 0 FPS |
| 22:11.15 | Moondrake[G5] | better? :D |
| 22:11.20 | Moondrake[G5] | sry for spma |
| 22:11.22 | Tekkub | yes maia, because my scheduled events weren't getting cancelled |
| 22:11.29 | Tekkub | and they'd just compound... |
| 22:11.33 | maia | Tekkub: yeah, I posted that in the forums. |
| 22:11.38 | yacoob | Neronix: lemme see it :) |
| 22:11.45 | maia | you didnt do a CancelScheduledEvent() first. |
| 22:12.00 | Tekkub | anyway, piss off I fixed it, and I can still move to AceEvent now... if I want to... and I don't... |
| 22:12.02 | snurre | oh, that's server center 2, not group 2 :p |
| 22:12.07 | Tekkub | yes I did |
| 22:12.11 | maia | piss off? |
| 22:12.18 | Neronix | yacoob: I just lost my changes :< |
| 22:12.19 | Tekkub | but his whole ID crap didn't register with me |
| 22:12.22 | Neronix | gimme 5 mins |
| 22:12.32 | yacoob | Neronix: aaargha :D |
| 22:12.37 | Moondrake[G5] | snurre: yep but they are group2 to be renewed today and tomorrow |
| 22:13.03 | maia | welcome back, snurre. |
| 22:13.10 | Tekkub | yes, piss off, I fixed the whole crap 3 days ago |
| 22:13.20 | snurre | ty maia :p |
| 22:13.39 | Moondrake[G5] | Tekkub: i think it's time for you to go to bed :P |
| 22:13.41 | Tekkub | 11:10:50 PM Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 |
| 22:13.46 | snurre | Moondrake[G5]: yep.. EU1A/EU1B was "fixed" last week.. only took 30h downtime \o/ |
| 22:14.05 | maia | Tekkub: well, you cant blame AceEvent if you didnt cancel the events. |
| 22:14.10 | Tekkub | I tried to |
| 22:14.12 | Tekkub | :P |
| 22:14.27 | Tekkub | I still don't like the whole OnUpdates in an OnEVent library thing |
| 22:14.31 | maia | and no, I won't piss of. I still decide when to piss myself. |
| 22:14.37 | Moondrake[G5] | snurre: yep lets see Eu2 has a lot more servers on it |
| 22:14.41 | Tekkub | I doubt I'll use AE for repeating events now |
| 22:15.15 | snurre | yeah, cause many eu1 realms got moved to eu4 and 5 |
| 22:15.15 | Neronix | yacoob: http://ace.pastey.net/490-1rl7 |
| 22:15.53 | maia | snurre: I assume that if people encounter a big lag spike, this affects all realms inside a datacenter? or is it only a single server? |
| 22:16.12 | snurre | i would assume all of them |
| 22:16.14 | Neronix | yacoob: In the init function function, add self:Hook(FuBar_Panel.instances[2], "UpdateTexture") |
| 22:16.26 | Neronix | and self:RemovePanel2Textures() |
| 22:16.36 | Neronix | and add AceHook-2.0 to the mixin list |
| 22:16.56 | snurre | maia: not always though.. sometimes it's just separate realms |
| 22:17.11 | Moondrake[G5] | i hope the new hardware is better now^^i hate the 22:00 lag and the 20:35 lag and let's not forget the 21:05 lag and the... |
| 22:17.51 | *** join/#wowace grumpey (n=Miranda@dialup-4.88.21.145.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) |
| 22:17.56 | maia | wait, does it really lag at always the same time? sounds like cronjobs. |
| 22:18.08 | yacoob | I'm not a jedi yet, Neronix :) |
| 22:18.16 | Moondrake[G5] | maia: it did some months ago, now it's random |
| 22:18.22 | yacoob | can you flush it into http://ace.pastey.net/444 ? |
| 22:18.39 | Moondrake[G5] | maia: for example 3 months ago the 22:00 lag was normal |
| 22:19.04 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: got a chance to test the VQ plugin yet? I've been thinking about sorting the replies, putting older, newer and same revs in different tablet categories and adding a BW counter, etc, but I'm not sure when to stop adding features. |
| 22:19.05 | yacoob | Neronix: it tries to hook *after* UpdateTexture call? Or instead of that? |
| 22:19.08 | Moondrake[G5] | it's fun having a 5sec lag with chromaggus at timelapse^^ |
| 22:19.10 | snurre | people on many realms could set their watches after the lagspikes |
| 22:19.26 | evl | i think people also need to see it from blizzards point of view |
| 22:19.36 | evl | buying 10 million $ in hardware isn't somethign you can do each year |
| 22:19.45 | grumpey | Can someone check ag_unitframes .. I just downloaded the zip, and the libs folder was empty? |
| 22:19.53 | yacoob | grumpey: it's the case. |
| 22:19.58 | evl | and the boxes are mostly 5 years old |
| 22:19.59 | Neronix | yacoob: I looked in the function itself and it seems to do important stuff |
| 22:19.59 | snurre | on kor'gall a year ago, you could easily tell that it was 16:00 and 22:30, cause that's when the change between 150ms ping and 10000ms ping was :p |
| 22:20.00 | Moondrake[G5] | with all those china farmers paying accounts, they have that money :P |
| 22:20.17 | Neronix | yacoob: So I decided to let it do its stuff when called, then re-remove the textures when it's done |
| 22:20.27 | snurre | evl: lag is also caused by ISP issues, not only server hardware |
| 22:20.27 | evl | Moondrake[G5]: it's also not purely a performance problem |
| 22:20.30 | Moondrake[G5] | grumpey: was like that 2 ago also, works fine with !!Librairies |
| 22:20.40 | evl | Think about the largest single Oracle deployment in the world |
| 22:20.45 | evl | then duplicate it by 10 |
| 22:20.51 | phyber | so, anyone that's using TopScoreFu 2 had any issues with it? |
| 22:21.04 | evl | Optimizing such a beast is an ardous task to put it lightly |
| 22:21.05 | phyber | one guy told me the scores wern't saving but they work fine here. |
| 22:21.08 | Moondrake[G5] | evl: i'm not complaining ;) was just explaining to maia :D |
| 22:21.13 | phyber | I'm going to put it on WoWI before I sleep. |
| 22:21.30 | Moondrake[G5] | evl: i know how hard it is to maintain sth that big |
| 22:21.37 | yacoob | evl: "largest single Oracle deployment" my ass. |
| 22:22.05 | maia | does Oracle still need COMMIT when saving stuff? |
| 22:22.09 | evl | yacoob: governments don't count :P |
| 22:22.14 | Moondrake[G5] | yacoob: largest would be of some bank^^ |
| 22:22.20 | snurre | wow US+EU has about 200 times as much server power as matrix online :p |
| 22:22.24 | yacoob | evl: think gsm networks |
| 22:22.41 | Moondrake[G5] | snurre: and a lot more players lol |
| 22:22.44 | yacoob | evl: anyway, have some numbers? |
| 22:22.53 | grumpey | Shouldn't the embeds be with the zip file? |
| 22:23.10 | phyber | maia: shouldn't auto commit be an option? (never used oracle, postgres ftw) |
| 22:23.22 | Moondrake[G5] | grumpey: should yes, i dled from SVN and didn't get them^^ |
| 22:23.23 | xzero | what can I use besides bloated discord art to change chatframe textures and the like? apart from manually scripting it |
| 22:23.29 | yacoob | phyber: yes, and you can set it. It's basically a client thing :) |
| 22:23.48 | snurre | i saw when they assembled the swedish server center.. each rack tower weighs about 850kg, the center has 75 of them iirc :p |
| 22:23.51 | snurre | was.. nasty |
| 22:24.01 | yacoob | xzero: I think you can set textures with visor |
| 22:24.21 | evl | yacoob: Can't find anything on it now, it was a good time ago I read bout the hardware specs |
| 22:24.25 | phyber | yacoob: thought so. I was going to say, it must be pretty shitty if you can't set that :p |
| 22:24.26 | xzero | hm.. okay, thanks |
| 22:24.30 | evl | The point is, this about 6,5 million people sending an SMS |
| 22:24.34 | Moondrake[G5] | i like the way you buy licences for Oracle :D per processor :D |
| 22:24.54 | evl | then registering 6,5 millions every inventory slot everytime they manipulate it |
| 22:24.56 | yacoob | evl: if you do, I'd be happy to read it. |
| 22:25.12 | yacoob | evl: but they're not keeping it in a single db, ye gods! |
| 22:25.20 | evl | yacoob: naturally they aren't :) |
| 22:25.20 | yacoob | (and if they do, woe upon them :) |
| 22:25.53 | evl | I first thought the rational thing would be that they had a binary in memory database |
| 22:25.53 | yacoob | and I see no reason for a db to be shared between >1 server. |
| 22:25.56 | Moondrake[G5] | some friend who wanted to test Oracle for his company wrote them a mail saying: i got a G5 QuadProc, can i just use one Proc to test and only buy one license? they never responded, i wonder why lol |
| 22:26.08 | snurre | i think the oracle logging should be nerfed.. every keyclick as a timestamp :( |
| 22:26.27 | yacoob | snurre: ? |
| 22:26.45 | evl | yacoob: I don't think they have the dbs running on the same boxes as the servers |
| 22:26.51 | evl | I mean, a lot of transactions are probably share across realms |
| 22:27.00 | snurre | the logging blizz uses internally.. every keyclick, opened window, search, you name it, has a timestamp.. the logs for the work tools are *insane* |
| 22:27.00 | yacoob | evl: that's not logical :) |
| 22:27.08 | yacoob | evl: what for? |
| 22:27.32 | evl | yacoob: item database f.ex |
| 22:27.41 | Moondrake[G5] | evl: nope |
| 22:27.47 | yacoob | assuming the design is done sane way: a cluster of machines providing computational power, san storage to keep data, another cluster of machines to keep data |
| 22:27.54 | Moondrake[G5] | evl: check out thinks like setwrangler for example |
| 22:27.56 | yacoob | evl: that won't scale. |
| 22:28.09 | yacoob | evl: wouldn't, I mean. |
| 22:28.18 | evl | So you think the lag is at the ISP and not the hardware? |
| 22:28.24 | snurre | both |
| 22:28.28 | Moondrake[G5] | evl: server A has a drop of T2, setwrangler will update it's item base, server b had no drop, SetWrangler won't know the item |
| 22:28.45 | snurre | each realm has a separate cache |
| 22:28.46 | yacoob | evl: I'd risk saying that wow server leaks. And that's the reason :) |
| 22:29.19 | evl | probably, I wonder what they wrote it in |
| 22:29.22 | evl | lua! |
| 22:29.23 | yacoob | The items db isn't much. It can be safely duplicated over fc |
| 22:29.31 | yacoob | evl: prolog and lisp 8) |
| 22:30.01 | yacoob | Neronix: would you be able to change your changes into http://ace.pastey.net/444, pretty please? :) |
| 22:30.01 | evl | It has to involve voodoo |
| 22:30.02 | snurre | log dbs are per realm, char dbs are per center |
| 22:30.55 | Moondrake[G5] | evl: an ISP example would be summer last year, all german players were experiencing lags but not the others, blizz made a new deal with a faster connection with main German isp and laghs were gone |
| 22:31.00 | yacoob | the storage space is much cheaper than cpu cycles, so... :) |
| 22:31.23 | Tekkub | maia, I choose hide from the squisy fubar menu and it goes away but the mod isn't disabled... I then click the bar, choose UnitFrames, Squishy and it's back... what was the issue? |
| 22:31.29 | yacoob | snurre: any reason for keeping character db per center, not realm? |
| 22:31.30 | evl | But the lag usually comes when new features are introduced, probably because the code isn't optimized enough pr? |
| 22:31.39 | snurre | for instance, if your account has a specific flag, if you create a char on one realm, it will be copied to all other realms on that platform, but items, quests etc, everything that is stored that way is separate per realm |
| 22:32.19 | snurre | yacoob: i don't know the reasons behind the infrastructure :( |
| 22:32.33 | maia | Tekkub: well, didnt we both realize that "hide" doesnt deactivate an addon, but "active" does? |
| 22:32.37 | Moondrake[G5] | put ISP, servers, dbs, new code and and and together.. |
| 22:32.38 | snurre | i do think the guys doing it know wtf theyre doing tho |
| 22:32.53 | Moondrake[G5] | and let's not forget the human part^^ |
| 22:32.55 | maia | if its confusing for us, its even worse for normal users. |
| 22:32.57 | yacoob | snurre: wait, but are above your guessings or hard facts? And if it's the latter, what is the source of it? :) |
| 22:33.09 | Tekkub | I dunno, I said hide and you said people were loosing their icon and the activate thing wasn't bringing it back... |
| 22:33.40 | yacoob | I'm pretty sure that most of the lag is caused by messy coding. |
| 22:33.41 | snurre | yacoob: i guess you could call it user experience.. :p |
| 22:33.45 | Tekkub | Hide should probably be renamed "Disable FuBar plugin" |
| 22:33.56 | evl | yacoob: it's a TimeToMarket vs Quality problem |
| 22:34.00 | yacoob | snurre: 8) been a Blizz's employee? |
| 22:34.03 | Tekkub | and "Active" to "Disable Addon" |
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| 22:34.06 | maia | Tekkub: nah, hide will only hide the icon. "active" will toggle the standby mode |
| 22:34.08 | yacoob | evl: you don't have to tell me that, unfortunatelly :D |
| 22:34.17 | yacoob | evl: been biten few times :> |
| 22:34.19 | Tekkub | .... if ckk gave us some means of flagging the thnig as a stub plugin |
| 22:34.22 | evl | yacoob: hey, I stopped doing backend for that sole reason :) |
| 22:34.23 | maia | Tekkub: keep in mind that people might not have FuBar. |
| 22:34.26 | *** part/#wowace wereHamster (n=tomc@gw.ptr-62-65-141-13.customer.ch.netstream.com) |
| 22:34.33 | Tekkub | yea I know... they suck |
| 22:34.36 | Tekkub | anyway... |
| 22:34.39 | yacoob | evl: haha :DDD |
| 22:34.43 | Tain | It's not time to market at all. It's scalability. No one expected WoW to have so many subscribers. |
| 22:34.49 | maia | Tekkub: so people without FuBar will even be more confused if Detox offers them to disable FuBar (which they arent using) |
| 22:34.53 | snurre | yacoob: vivendi, not blizz :p |
| 22:34.55 | evl | Tain: that I have a hard time believeing |
| 22:34.56 | Moondrake[G5] | snurre: yeah probably, cause you add and rewrite an existing code, you can't always calculate all repercutions on the old code and bugs occasioned etc |
| 22:35.05 | Tain | Why? |
| 22:35.10 | Tekkub | "Hide minimap button" if no FuBar |
| 22:35.11 | evl | Tain: Blizzard has never put out a title that has sold less than 10 times it's original estimate |
| 22:35.33 | Tain | A MMOG is an entirely different beast than a standalone game. |
| 22:35.39 | Tain | They're not comparible. |
| 22:35.42 | evl | Tain: Isn't Diablo one? |
| 22:35.49 | snurre | the estimated amount of worldwide online gamers at the time of WoW launch was 1.8mill |
| 22:35.55 | Tain | Diablo is a stand-alone game with online play. |
| 22:35.56 | snurre | a month later it was 3mill |
| 22:36.17 | snurre | now i think it's about 9 |
| 22:36.24 | yacoob | evl: it went that way: "(marketoids): so, how many people can play at the same moment? (devs): few thousands... (marketoids) WHAT?! (devs) on a one server of course (marketoids) server... ok, we'll make many servers! SOLD! WHEE! (devs) *sigh*" |
| 22:36.25 | evl | which is fucking nuts. |
| 22:36.25 | Moondrake[G5] | Tain: thanks for not adding the R, i still miss that part in WoW^^ |
| 22:36.32 | maia | Tekkub: sounds good. |
| 22:36.35 | evl | yacoob: lol :D |
| 22:36.36 | Neronix | yacoob: http://ace.pastey.net/493-2lun |
| 22:37.02 | yacoob | so the marketoids WERE expecting this size, but devs were coding with "noone sane would deploy a server with more than 3k users..." |
| 22:37.05 | maia | Tekkub: but then the option "active" may not hide the minimap button, but should only put the addon into standby. |
| 22:37.09 | yacoob | Apparently noone sane lives there :D |
| 22:37.26 | snurre | i was a bit sceptical when i first heard about the way wow was being split into a bunch of servers, since i was playing AO at the time (two servers total:p) |
| 22:37.27 | yacoob | Neronix: thanks :) And as soon as login server passes me through, I'll check this :> |
| 22:37.30 | Moondrake[G5] | yacoob: sa.. what? |
| 22:37.34 | snurre | in retrospect i think it was a wise choice |
| 22:37.45 | yacoob | Moondrake[G5]: ook! oook! |
| 22:37.48 | Tain | Well, I won't get into a discussion about what "role playing" means, but any persistent world game is going to have to be looked at completely differently than any other title. |
| 22:38.16 | Moondrake[G5] | yacoob: librairian rulz |
| 22:38.24 | Tain | I do still like though how Eve Online for example is one single universe. Not that WoW could be that. But I still like the idea. |
| 22:38.26 | yacoob | gief banana plx, k? |
| 22:38.39 | snurre | Tain: imagine 25k players online on one single wow realm :p |
| 22:38.41 | yacoob | Neronix: and I rush off to read on AceHook :D |
| 22:38.52 | evl | Well |
| 22:38.55 | evl | Eve Online is a cool game |
| 22:38.57 | Neronix | did I make a mess of it? |
| 22:38.58 | Tain | Ironforge and Orgimmar would be a mess. |
| 22:39.01 | snurre | i like eve |
| 22:39.01 | evl | If you get turned on by a stopwatch! :D |
| 22:39.05 | evl | Ooooh, 3 hours now |
| 22:39.07 | evl | 4! |
| 22:39.09 | evl | amaaazing! |
| 22:39.10 | maia | snurre: well, isnt the max of concurrent users on a realm about 500ish at the moment |
| 22:39.20 | snurre | maia: 4500ish iirc |
| 22:39.20 | maia | s/500/5000/ |
| 22:39.33 | snurre | somewhere around there anyhow |
| 22:39.37 | maia | ah, okay. so I wasnt really ways off. |
| 22:39.43 | snurre | can't remember/don't know the exact numbrers |
| 22:40.11 | yacoob | Neronix: so hooks works like a cascade? |
| 22:40.18 | yacoob | or, rather, |
| 22:40.19 | Moondrake[G5] | guys and girls me tired are much very. Night all good |
| 22:40.23 | snurre | what I do know though, is that the peak days in europe have about 750k players online simultanously |
| 22:40.25 | yacoob | inheritance? :) |
| 22:40.38 | Neronix | A hook can totally replace the function or act like a chain |
| 22:40.58 | Neronix | basically either: func = newfunc |
| 22:41.09 | snurre | I would expect 1-1.2mill simultanous players during xmas if TBC comes out in time |
| 22:41.37 | Neronix | or func = oldfunc(); newfunc() (Or newfunc(); oldfunc()) |
| 22:41.38 | yacoob | Neronix: so "When hooking, you should almost always call the original hook." isn't a hard req? |
| 22:42.08 | Neronix | or even func = <stuff> oldfunc() <more stuff> |
| 22:42.34 | Neronix | yacoob: Yeah, you can have exceptions |
| 22:42.36 | Tuplad | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3081 Haha. |
| 22:43.07 | Neronix | that can break things though, so be careful if you want to fully replace code |
| 22:43.19 | vhaarr | ouch that looks bad, tu |
| 22:43.33 | yacoob | Neronix: understandable, especially with upgrades |
| 22:43.54 | yacoob | Neronix: but in this case, no matter what ckknight_ squeezes into the original method, it clears textures anyway, right? |
| 22:44.14 | yacoob | Tuplad: but it has animated portraits! |
| 22:44.23 | yacoob | (goddess, I hate that :) |
| 22:45.25 | Neronix | Yes |
| 22:46.09 | Tuplad | yacoob: >_> |
| 22:46.35 | Tuplad | yacoob: it's pretty fugly, never seen anything fuglier |
| 22:47.35 | yacoob | it's way to crowded to benefit from any piece of information he squeezed in that |
| 22:48.06 | yacoob | but the portraits are the last straw |
| 22:48.11 | yacoob | never understood the idea behind that |
| 22:48.41 | Tuplad | same |
| 22:48.49 | Tuplad | Not like you dont know how you look like o_O |
| 22:48.50 | Neronix | yacoob: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Hook_a_Function for more info |
| 22:49.24 | yacoob | apparently some folks like it. Hell, even whole models! |
| 22:49.37 | Neronix | obviously, because the cosmos guys have a huge presence on wowwiki, they mention sea somewhere |
| 22:49.42 | Neronix | obviously, ignore that :P |
| 22:49.54 | yacoob | which is even more crazy, not only takes up precious space, but also gives more polygons to render :) |
| 22:50.01 | yacoob | Neronix: obviously, I've been warned about sea before :D |
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| 22:54.14 | Tuplad | :O |
| 22:55.01 | Tuplad | What's the purpose of all those Cosmos libs anyway? |
| 22:55.06 | Tuplad | I just removed Sea recently |
| 22:55.19 | Tuplad | It was there for no reason ;p |
| 22:56.04 | yacoob | You have nowhere to sail on. |
| 22:57.18 | Tem | well, Sea, as I remember it, just has lots and lots of random utility functions in it |
| 23:00.31 | Tuplad | :o |
| 23:04.42 | haste | I remember a long time ago, when I was looking into libs like Ace.. I looked at Sea, and pretty much turned away from it forever |
| 23:04.48 | MentalPower|ZZzz | yeah, most AddOns have a random utility functions file, they just combined all those different files into a single (now fragmented for embedding reasons) library |
| 23:06.31 | Gngsk | more oSkin pr0n for your viewing pleasure http://www.titansofazeroth.com/mods/WoWScrnShot_082906_185921.jpg |
| 23:07.47 | haste | remove the portrait and its' perfect imo :p |
| 23:07.52 | Gngsk | bah! |
| 23:07.58 | Gngsk | aren't you supposed to be asleep? |
| 23:08.14 | yacoob | Gngsk: what UF and raid frames are those? |
| 23:08.20 | Nickenyfiken | i havent had a chance to try oSkin yet :-( |
| 23:08.24 | haste | I failed, ended up watching Hellsing OVA e2 |
| 23:08.29 | Nickenyfiken | stupid EU login server |
| 23:08.54 | haste | and you know you can bring up the Ready check frame without a person requesting :D |
| 23:09.03 | Gngsk | yea |
| 23:09.08 | Kebinusan | haste, write subs for it :-) |
| 23:09.13 | dreyruugr | how can I check the memory usage of my addon? |
| 23:09.18 | Gngsk | I did most of the tweaking that way, but I wanted to see what it'd look like when invoked |
| 23:09.24 | haste | Kebinusan: there are subs for it |
| 23:09.34 | Kebinusan | hm, the one I downloaded didnt have subs |
| 23:09.38 | Kebinusan | I'll have to look again |
| 23:09.50 | Tuplad | http://www.titansofazeroth.com/mods/WoWScrnShot_082906_185921.jpg |
| 23:09.51 | Tuplad | Gngsk: |
| 23:09.57 | Tuplad | Gngsk: 5606 ? wtf kind of crit is that ? |
| 23:10.07 | Gngsk | GH |
| 23:10.16 | Gngsk | priest nub :p |
| 23:10.24 | Tuplad | GH ? :\ |
| 23:10.28 | Gngsk | greater heal |
| 23:10.34 | Tuplad | o |
| 23:10.35 | Tuplad | -_- |
| 23:10.44 | haste | I've seen 4800 shadow bolts crit |
| 23:10.46 | Tuplad | spec mindflay :| |
| 23:10.51 | Tuplad | haste: I've seen a 40 warlock 2 hitting a 60 warrior |
| 23:10.58 | haste | s/it/its/ |
| 23:11.07 | haste | Tuplad: then I wonder how |
| 23:11.13 | Tuplad | haste: was a looooooong time ago |
| 23:11.24 | Tuplad | haste: 3k bolts >_> |
| 23:11.27 | haste | I leveled my warlock during the random CoS |
| 23:11.38 | haste | and I got 3k5 bolts with full felheart |
| 23:11.45 | haste | and CoS ofc |
| 23:11.51 | Kebinusan | Yeah I got a 5k bolt dueling a warrior with the old vuln bonuses |
| 23:11.59 | Kebinusan | one shot him, it was great |
| 23:12.05 | Tuplad | warlocks are just bs |
| 23:12.08 | haste | not really |
| 23:12.32 | Tuplad | altough |
| 23:12.34 | Tuplad | I like to CC them |
| 23:12.53 | Tuplad | my favo trick is to mount up and run away when they're lying there with a SS |
| 23:13.00 | phyber | how can you get such hi shadow bolts :/ |
| 23:13.12 | haste | phyber: before ;) |
| 23:13.21 | phyber | ohhh, before. |
| 23:13.23 | haste | phyber: when you got -75 Shadow resistance with CoS |
| 23:13.26 | phyber | yeah |
| 23:13.30 | Tuplad | :O |
| 23:13.33 | phyber | that used to rock. |
| 23:15.06 | Tuplad | haste: You should make a top version of that bottom art |
| 23:15.25 | haste | Tuplad: I'm not very found of coding for others ;) |
| 23:15.25 | Tuplad | haste: around 15 pixels high |
| 23:15.32 | Kebinusan | http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/1612/sig1ge9.jpg |
| 23:15.35 | Tuplad | haste: I bet ;( |
| 23:15.42 | Tuplad | Kebinusan: omfg |
| 23:16.08 | haste | Kebinusan: warlock in the guild was pumping out 4k8 shadow bolts on the patchwork trash :p |
| 23:16.10 | Kebinusan | from back in the day, used to be my forum sig to remind a guildie |
| 23:16.26 | haste | with DS/Ruin build I believe |
| 23:16.37 | Kebinusan | yeah ds something definately, shadow priest in the raid? |
| 23:16.44 | haste | nope |
| 23:16.46 | haste | we don't have any |
| 23:17.22 | haste | he's the author of the harnessing shadows movies :p |
| 23:17.51 | Kebinusan | I remember watching a couple of those |
| 23:18.42 | haste | It's also him that made the HeiganRevolution movie |
| 23:19.24 | Kebinusan | Yeah that video is one of the best edited boss videos Ive seen |
| 23:19.52 | haste | I know that he was low ranking in that movie :p |
| 23:20.17 | haste | not sure what spec tho'... he has a tendency to respec twice a day |
| 23:20.58 | Kebinusan | heh I know that feeling very well |
| 23:21.20 | haste | same, my shaman has had the same spec for half a year |
| 23:21.28 | haste | while my warlock changes like once a weak :p |
| 23:21.45 | Kebinusan | heheh |
| 23:24.07 | haste | haha, take a look at MSBT on the HeiganRevolution movie: Shadow Trance fucking faded! |
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| 23:24.35 | haste | but I seriously need to try to sleep now |
| 23:24.45 | haste | 3h and 30min untill I have to get up :< |
| 23:28.05 | Gngsk | :\ |
| 23:28.43 | Gngsk | I should totally get access to the svn so I can commit to oSkin! |
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| 23:49.38 | MentalPower | To those interested, I changed http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Hook_a_Function to include other hooking libraries (other than Sea), feel free to add Ace's and Ace2's methods (their names are already there) |
| 23:51.52 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r9510 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Revert change by Tekkub in r9127, which was supposed to be a deDE update only, according to the commit message. |
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