irclog2html for #wowace on 20060927

`00:00.06`	`Entropism`	`Mikk: I'm sober now. thanks =(`
`00:00.09`	`Azurewrath`	`I'm German, i need to drink Beer. Much Beer. :p`
`00:00.10`	`Mikk`	`hehehe`
`00:00.22`	`Industrial`	`reinheitsgebot <3`
`00:00.25`	`Thrae`	`Tekkub: ping`
`00:00.32`	`Mikk`	`Speaking of that.. I really need to get my arse down to one of those fests`
`00:00.33`	`Thrae`	`~seen Tekkub`
`00:01.00`	`purl`	`tekkub <n=Tekk@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19h 2m 47s ago, saying: 'also, check http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:SVN for me'.`
`00:01.00`	`Azurewrath`	`hehe`
`00:01.00`	`Tain`	`Yay beer festivals.`
`00:01.00`	`VipHalid`	`wowace down again??`
`00:01.00`	`Mikk`	`Been meaning to do it for like the 10 past years >.<`
`00:01.00`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`hm..`
`00:01.03`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`oktoberfest will start soon again ^^`
`00:01.07`	`Entropism`	`VipHalid: The site is down. There's nothing anybody can do (unless you ask Cladhaire nicely)`
`00:01.08`	`Industrial`	`Azurewrath: do you know Wave gothic treffen?`
`00:01.08`	`*** part/#wowace le0nel (i=le0nel@c-66-176-182-188.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)`
`00:01.13`	`Industrial`	`Azurewrath: another big party :>`
`00:01.18`	`Industrial`	`Azurewrath: in germany..`
`00:01.19`	`Azurewrath`	`the only thing being really pervert about the Oktoberfest is that they begin to drink at 9am :)`
`00:01.28`	`Entropism`	`...9am?`
`00:01.29`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`lol xD`
`00:01.34`	`Azurewrath`	`Industrial: remember the name from somewhere.. but not really :)`
`00:01.44`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`but you aint allowed to drink anymore till 10 at night right?`
`00:01.47`	`Industrial`	`Azurewrath: imagine a city.. full of gothics`
`00:01.47`	`cladhaire`	`Entropism, VipHalid: I have taken the site down. I will bring it up when its ready.`
`00:01.48`	`cladhaire`	`Thanks.`
`00:01.49`	`Industrial`	`only gothic`
`00:01.51`	`Industrial`	`s`
`00:01.54`	`Industrial`	`thousands`
`00:01.55`	`Industrial`	`partying`
`00:01.58`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`00:02.05`	`Entropism`	`cladhaire: I read the MOTD`
`00:02.07`	`Entropism`	`;)`
`00:02.16`	`cladhaire`	`i know, was just responding the ping =)`
`00:02.26`	`Entropism`	`OK then, join the beer debate`
`00:02.41`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ`
`00:02.42`	`Azurewrath`	`FFOS\|Darclite: naa, not really.. the tents close at 11pm, because the people living around the place think it's to loud.. people go to clubs and pubs after that and drink more`
`00:02.43`	`Entropism`	`dear god, someone put my server online. Save me jebus!`
`00:02.55`	`Industrial`	`http://www.wave-gotik-treffen.de/english/photogallery.php`
`00:03.07`	`VipHalid`	`np, i was just wondering`
`00:03.15`	`VipHalid`	`what u doin to it anyhow?`
`00:03.44`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`Azurewrath ill send you beerke over... he needs some fun again ^^`
`00:03.50`	`Azurewrath`	`Industrial: hehe, looks funny :)`
`00:04.26`	`Azurewrath`	`hehe`
`00:04.33`	`*** join/#wowace Enaya (n=Enaya@p508DE094.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`00:04.36`	`Industrial`	`http://www.wave-gotik-treffen.de/Bilder/wgt324.jpg`
`00:04.40`	`Industrial`	`"You gonna get raped"`
`00:04.42`	`Industrial`	`lmao`
`00:04.58`	`Entropism`	`"Would you care to tell me where the KY vendor is?"`
`00:05.04`	`Azurewrath`	`those guys look harmless :)`
`00:05.12`	`Azurewrath`	`you know Wacken Open Air? :)`
`00:05.15`	`Industrial`	`yes`
`00:05.17`	`Tain`	`Woah new Monad version!`
`00:05.20`	`Industrial`	`Entropism: they are, mostly`
`00:05.31`	`Entropism`	`Industrial, that guy looks like he uses sandpaper condoms`
`00:05.40`	`Industrial`	`lol xD`
`00:05.47`	`Tain`	`Oh sorry, "Windows Power Shell"`
`00:05.51`	`Industrial`	`I LOLD IRL!!1!11`
`00:06.17`	`Azurewrath`	`sandpaper condoms.. lol`
`00:06.23`	`Azurewrath`	`thats sick`
`00:06.42`	`Entropism`	`yes, but it breaks up the monotony of raidchat when wiping incessantly on C'thun`
`00:06.52`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@198.199.136.119)`
`00:06.52`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`00:07.01`	`Entropism`	`"rYeah, use a sandpaper condom. Blood's a natural lube" "OMG MISTELL!"`
`00:07.03`	`Azurewrath`	`hehe, know that to good`
`00:07.15`	`Azurewrath`	`lol`
`00:07.26`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`00:07.26`	`Industrial`	`Welcome to the Closed Beta of Carpe Diem`
`00:07.27`	`Industrial`	`\o/`
`00:07.29`	`Industrial`	`made it`
`00:07.37`	`Azurewrath`	`hi ckknight`
`00:07.38`	`ckknight`	`Carpe Diem?`
`00:08.03`	`Entropism`	`last night we got sick of C'thun and wiped 8 times at ouro, each 3% or less =( Not bad for the first day trying though`
`00:08.49`	`Entropism`	`I just want to go back to farming the first few Naxx bosses already...`
`00:08.59`	`snurre`	`ouro is easy until berserk`
`00:09.03`	`Industrial`	`http://www.carpediemgame.com/`
`00:09.07`	`snurre`	`after that it's just "lets hope we can stay alive long enough"`
`00:09.18`	`Industrial`	`your supposed to play not vs NPC's`
`00:09.25`	`Industrial`	`but versus a player controlled enemy`
`00:09.31`	`ckknight`	`PvP?`
`00:09.33`	`Industrial`	`that attacks stuff randomly`
`00:09.35`	`Entropism`	`yeah, well... I feel worthless. My 1400 AP fury warrior gets benched and I bring my tier 1 hunter =(`
`00:09.37`	`Industrial`	`or semi randomly`
`00:09.44`	`chrisa`	`For ouro it's not too bad. Just keep dps up as the tanks shield wall at the enrage`
`00:09.49`	`Industrial`	`spawns raids that attack towns et`
`00:09.51`	`Industrial`	`c`
`00:09.56`	`chrisa`	`and you can adapt your strat to allow melee, just takes a bit more effort`
`00:10.11`	`Industrial`	`thought id give it a try`
`00:10.15`	`Industrial`	`not for the graphics`
`00:10.16`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`00:10.23`	`Entropism`	`yeah, we'll get him next time no doubt. We only spent about 2 hours total on him`
`00:10.25`	`Tain`	`I just quit my guild because they're going too crazy with mandatory raids.`
`00:10.25`	`chrisa`	`But if you get healers sandblasted during the enrage, ow`
`00:11.06`	`Entropism`	`sigh I love my guild, but we need better people. I was offered a spot in a guild on the 4H, but I cant leave my friends`
`00:11.27`	`Azurewrath`	`Entropism: Thats exactly my Problem...`
`00:11.38`	`*** join/#wowace dpsfish (i=B@cpc2-oxfd4-0-0-cust348.oxfd.cable.ntl.com)`
`00:11.44`	`Entropism`	`"full wrath, love to tank, and you can put out 600+ DPS on Patchwerk? Hmmmm"`
`00:11.46`	`dpsfish`	`hi there`
`00:11.50`	`dpsfish`	`has wowace been hacked?`
`00:11.56`	`chrisa`	`I'm glad we have a pile of Warrior apps and don't have to snipe MTs from other guilds for 4h`
`00:11.57`	`snurre`	`yes`
`00:11.59`	`chrisa`	`That would have felt bad`
`00:12.13`	`*** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Miranda@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)`
`00:12.14`	`chrisa`	`Then again, the apps ARE from other guilds. Maybe I should still feel bad`
`00:12.15`	`*** join/#wowace Hypatia-LB (n=Hypatia@node30.170.136.64.1dial.com)`
`00:12.19`	`Azurewrath`	`i just love those guys.. built up the guild over the past 1,5 years.. we just have to many weak players..`
`00:12.20`	`dpsfish`	`went to update a few bits from the SVN before raids this evening and noticed the site wasnt working`
`00:12.37`	`chrisa`	`It's not like the channel topic says anything!`
`00:12.37`	`Entropism`	`Chrisa, I learned a LONG time ago after being bitter my old guild's MT left for bigger & better...`
`00:12.39`	`Tain`	`wowace wasn't hacked, it was sold to goldfarmers.com`
`00:12.48`	`Entropism`	`THEY're LEAVING, nobody is stealing`
`00:12.54`	`dpsfish`	`yes apologies, just read it`
`00:13.08`	`Kilroo`	`I probably qualify as a weak player. Or did, last time I had money in my account.`
`00:13.11`	`chrisa`	`Entropism: Some people just suck (as people)`
`00:13.21`	`Entropism`	`and no matter how many MTs leave, there's always someone ready to take over who can do a better job`
`00:13.22`	`*** join/#wowace amweiss (n=amweiss@resnet101-79.resnet.buffalo.edu)`
`00:13.23`	`Kilroo`	`But I took pride in the fact that most people I partied with enjoyed it.`
`00:13.30`	`*** part/#wowace amweiss (n=amweiss@resnet101-79.resnet.buffalo.edu)`
`00:13.42`	`Tain`	`I took pride in the fact that most people I partied with didn't press charges.`
`00:13.51`	`Hypatia-LB`	`O_O`
`00:13.58`	`Kilroo`	`Basically my biggest problem was that I was playing a rogue but didn't usually play main assist.`
`00:14.06`	`snurre`	`ive never partied with randoms in wow.. like ever..`
`00:14.09`	`Entropism`	`chrisa: This is why I love my guild. We've become friends, hang out IRL, call each other by first names, etc. It's just some of them are bloody morons`
`00:14.13`	`Kilroo`	`Or...well, I did, but not as a dedicated thing.`
`00:14.20`	`Industrial`	`I take pride in not raiding at all, because in wow raiding is made to be a second job`
`00:14.52`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`you've obviously never played EQ`
`00:14.57`	`Industrial`	`nope`
`00:15.06`	`Entropism`	`Our hunter lead said that hatchet of sundered bone is a hunter weapon. My guild leader (hunter) called him an idiot`
`00:15.07`	`snurre`	`grinding for consumables for naxx = EQ style`
`00:15.29`	`Azurewrath`	`i enjoy raiding very much.. no prob to invest the time into it.. but it frustrates if you can't progress because of weak players or lack of some classes..`
`00:15.34`	`Kilroo`	`I would do MA if the main tank could hold the aggro. Otherwise, I'd either tell them to avoid hitting whoever I drew off to the side to take on myself and run stunlocks, or I'd play get-the-mobs-off-the-healers-hurry-hurry-before-they-die-now-get-them-off-ME-help-help.`
`00:16.25`	`Entropism`	`Azurewrath, exactly. Or when the person or people you've grown to love in your guild reveals themselves to be absolutely worthless in fights where you have to THINK`
`00:16.41`	`Kilroo`	`Because of how much I was focused on crits, generally the tank had to be at least my level or very well designed, or I'd keep getting the aggro from him`
`00:17.00`	`Skyboat`	`after I quit my guild, there was drama over 2 hunters and a warrior concerning who Iblis, Blade of the Fallen Seraph should have gone to, with equal DKP`
`00:17.07`	`Kilroo`	`and I somehow kept winding up in groups with lower level tanks`
`00:17.20`	`Tain`	`The sad part is you don't have to make raiding a part time job. My guild was pretty good with it for a long time.`
`00:17.26`	`Entropism`	`Skyboat: Equal DKP? roll. No drama needed`
`00:17.35`	`Skyboat`	`melee priority :p`
`00:17.49`	`Tain`	`All of a sudden we're deep in AQ40 and it's bam mandatory 4 raids a week PLUS offnight consumable farming or else.`
`00:17.50`	`snurre`	`raiding doesnt require much extra work until you reach stuff like patcherk in naxx`
`00:17.51`	`Skyboat`	`62.5 DPS OH sword on a hunter? what a waste.`
`00:17.54`	`Entropism`	`I can honestly see a reason for that`
`00:18.03`	`dpsfish`	`Tain: i lead raids for my lot`
`00:18.04`	`chrisa`	`We just loot council everything`
`00:18.05`	`chrisa`	`shrug`
`00:18.14`	`dpsfish`	`we just finished another night of attempts at emps including a 6% wipe`
`00:18.14`	`snurre`	`aq40 was nothing compared to naxx imo`
`00:18.15`	`dpsfish`	`similar story`
`00:18.18`	`Entropism`	`Sky, I'm the only fury warr in my guild, and an orc. I had a hunter telling me I shouldnt be allowed to bid on the hatchet`
`00:18.18`	`Azurewrath`	`Entropism: jup.. we have a Tank, he's raiding with us from the beginning.. his wife is in the guild too.. hes really friendly and stuff.. but tanking/playing in AQ40+ is just to much of a challenge for him.. he reacts to slow..`
`00:18.19`	`dpsfish`	`it was all niec and casual`
`00:18.24`	`dpsfish`	`soon as we started on aq40 and nax`
`00:18.25`	`Tain`	`It's all to lead up to Naxx.`
`00:18.28`	`snurre`	`Entropism: i would gkick that hunter`
`00:18.29`	`dpsfish`	`its a new step`
`00:18.32`	`Skyboat`	`well we all know most hunters are morons, so ;)`
`00:18.38`	`Tain`	`No one cares about AQ40, it's the build up to Naxx that everyone's all psycho about.`
`00:18.56`	`chrisa`	`We actually gave our first Iblis to a hunter because all the rogues were morons and zoned out`
`00:19.03`	`Skyboat`	`lawl`
`00:19.06`	`chrisa`	`Well, I should be fair. We only have one sword rogue`
`00:19.07`	`Tain`	`My only point is you don't have to do it 4-7 days a week. Yes it takes longer, but so what?`
`00:19.09`	`chrisa`	`So he zoned out`
`00:19.18`	`Entropism`	`snurre: "You're not there to DPS, you're a TANK" Guild Leader: "OK< then from now on, Gallaz (me) is not ALLOWED to tank."`
`00:19.23`	`Skyboat`	`no Fury warriors want it?`
`00:19.25`	`snurre`	`at least my guild's hunters know their class well enough to understand that melee weapons like that can't possibly go to hunters until everyone else have them`
`00:19.36`	`Tain`	`I was a, "I'll respec to the best weapon I have" Rogue.`
`00:19.39`	`chrisa`	`Fury warrior had hatchet of sundered bone and ummm`
`00:19.49`	`chrisa`	`I forget the other`
`00:19.55`	`Skyboat`	`fair dos`
`00:20.04`	`Skyboat`	`I want that axe on my warrior`
`00:20.11`	`Skyboat`	`would prefer a mace/sword though`
`00:20.17`	`Entropism`	`I'm waiting for a hatchet and EoC (I'm an orc). So far it's Firemaw's claw and Widow's remorse`
`00:20.19`	`snurre`	`thats the only real upgrade i can get tbh`
`00:20.30`	`snurre`	`im orc and dw'ing HWL cleaver`
`00:20.36`	`Entropism`	`bastard ;)`
`00:20.41`	`chrisa`	`Fury with a Widow's Remorse?`
`00:20.44`	`chrisa`	`That seems kinda odd to me`
`00:20.49`	`Entropism`	`I could only keep my sanity to rank 12`
`00:20.54`	`chrisa`	`Especially as an orc`
`00:20.58`	`Skyboat`	`heh, if I ever hit HW on my shaman, gonna be 2 each of all the OH weapons`
`00:21.01`	`*** join/#wowace KrteK (n=KrteK@dhcp-83-219-110-174.customers.tvtnet.ch)`
`00:21.01`	`Tain`	`I'm still sad that there's no viable mace rogue weapons other than the servo arm. I liked maces. But useless for raids.`
`00:21.04`	`Skyboat`	`buy*`
`00:21.11`	`snurre`	`not many decent dps axes tbh`
`00:21.12`	`Entropism`	`Chrisa, +hit, makes up for loss of stam, and it saved DKP by doubling as a tanking weapon`
`00:21.23`	`snurre`	`EoC, hatchet and HWL cleaver`
`00:21.35`	`KrteK`	`Hi`
`00:21.38`	`Entropism`	`snurre: See the lvl 70 PVP 1H axe?`
`00:21.44`	`snurre`	`hm, nop`
`00:21.50`	`Entropism`	`88 DPS, 300 max, 2.9 speed`
`00:21.58`	`snurre`	`rage is normalized in expansion anyway`
`00:22.06`	`Entropism`	`the 2H is 115 DPS, 525 max dmg`
`00:22.06`	`snurre`	`from what ive seen i dont really feel like going dps there`
`00:22.12`	`Skyboat`	`where did you read that?`
`00:22.19`	`Entropism`	`I'll get the link for the pic`
`00:22.21`	`Entropism`	`one sec`
`00:22.40`	`snurre`	`think ill spec prot again for expansion (was MT for a month in my guild, recently respecced back to fury due to RL reasons)`
`00:22.45`	`ckknight`	`rage got normalized?`
`00:22.46`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`00:22.47`	`Thrae`	`http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/NewbieAddonPack.zip, think it's a good addon pack for newbies. I'm going to give it to my Mom.`
`00:23.02`	`Tain`	`I'm going to give it to your mom too.`
`00:23.05`	`Skyboat`	`one thing's for sure, at least they are making Fury/Prot builds viable for tanking`
`00:23.08`	`Entropism`	`http://wow.rpgbeacon.com/news.php?ID=91`
`00:23.08`	`*** join/#wowace MentalPower_ (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net)`
`00:23.15`	`snurre`	`rage gain in expansion is severely gimped compared to current :(`
`00:23.24`	`Thrae`	`I walked into that one.`
`00:23.38`	`ckknight`	`lag, thrae`
`00:23.41`	`ckknight`	`not downloading`
`00:23.41`	`Entropism`	`snurre: you testing TBC?`
`00:23.53`	`snurre`	`at least I can do BT at every cooldown even when having bad streaks atm.. in TBC you have to be lucky to chain BT solo`
`00:23.55`	`Tain`	`Well on raids today warriors don't even hav eto think twice about rage gain except on a couple specific encounters.`
`00:24.04`	`Entropism`	`...you're JOKING`
`00:24.18`	`snurre`	`nop`
`00:24.22`	`snurre`	`Tain: that depends`
`00:24.25`	`Entropism`	`....warlock, here I come`
`00:24.35`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: Works for me`
`00:24.38`	`snurre`	`rage management is very important for proper dps`
`00:24.59`	`Entropism`	`Seriously. I see so many fury warrs stuck at 100 rage and I want to hit them`
`00:25.19`	`snurre`	`cant just waste it whever you like and expect to do proper dps, you always have to evaluate if it's worth changing stance for overpower or WW, depending on your current rage and what you can expect to gain the next 2secs`
`00:25.21`	`snurre`	`and stuff like that`
`00:25.40`	`snurre`	`it's unpredictable, and a player good at managing his rage will by far outdmg one who's not`
`00:25.42`	`Skyboat`	`I usually had to end up spamming cleave to dump excess rage`
`00:25.51`	`Azurewrath`	`187 spelldmg 1H... need.. that.. now.. drool`
`00:25.54`	`Entropism`	`well, with weapons as weak as mine, I usually dont OP in raids. Stick to zerk. For PVP, I'm using ashkandi, always OP`
`00:26.02`	`Neebler`	`http://ic3.deviantart.com/fs11/i/2006/245/c/e/Avnas_by_nanya.jpg`
`00:26.09`	`snurre`	`PvP is different`
`00:26.13`	`Entropism`	`of course`
`00:26.20`	`snurre`	`there the short-term dps is more important that rage conservation`
`00:26.22`	`Tain`	`I didn't say rage is a never-ending resource, but in most fights do you really think warriors have a problem maintaining rage in raids?`
`00:26.47`	`Entropism`	`I loved when i was laughed at for spamming slam. "Hello... 32% crit, and I crit for 1700 every 1.5 seconds. YOU figure it out"`
`00:26.59`	`snurre`	`it's not about maintaining rage, but spending it wisely and not wasting too much on stancedancing`
`00:27.17`	`snurre`	`but generally aggro is way more of a problem`
`00:27.31`	`Entropism`	`yeah, agro is our rage limiter`
`00:28.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`rage is just screwy in its current form but i hope they dont nerf it too much, would rather the way it exponentally curves be changed`
`00:28.20`	`snurre`	`http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/161/topscorefu260906tj6.jpg :p`
`00:28.28`	`snurre`	`that's with DW`
`00:28.56`	`DrDre`	`whoa`
`00:29.01`	`DrDre`	`what im reading by blue is BS`
`00:29.11`	`Skyboat`	`freaky score with Slam and WW there :p`
`00:29.11`	`Tain`	`Of course I felt bad for the paladins in my guild, our leaders had no idea how to use them at all. We really could have done everything we did with no paladins because they didn't do anything.`
`00:29.30`	`snurre`	`Skyboat: those are from when i was prot a week ago`
`00:29.33`	`DrDre`	`blue said anyone who gets rank 11 post 1.12.1 will still have to purchase the 720 training to get epic speed, if you dont the rank 11 mounts will go at 60% speed`
`00:29.34`	`snurre`	`so theyre kinda shit`
`00:29.39`	`Hypatia-LB`	`Where is this "rage normalization in BC" theory coming from? I hadn't heard anything about that.`
`00:29.44`	`DrDre`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=28306370`
`00:29.59`	`Entropism`	`niiiice HS. HWL axe again?`
`00:30.04`	`Slayman`	`new svn down already ?`
`00:30.05`	`snurre`	`yeh`
`00:30.13`	`Entropism`	`I should have kept grinding =p`
`00:30.39`	`snurre`	`Entropism: patchwerk was kinda funny.. had streaks like 2.4k BT, 2.3k HS, 2.3k HS, 1.8k overpower, 2.4k BT`
`00:30.43`	`snurre`	`that's ok-ish DPS`
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`00:30.58`	`snurre`	`+ whatever white hits in between`
`00:31.02`	`Skyboat`	`argh, I wanna raid Naxx with my lock again :p`
`00:32.23`	`snurre`	`i love naxx, too bad my guild is so undergeared for it`
`00:32.38`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`undergeared?`
`00:32.55`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`anub/razu aint require that much gear`
`00:32.56`	`snurre`	`it's a fresh guild`
`00:32.57`	`Entropism`	`I think my guild has the gear for Naxx, but our healers cant handle noth or patchy`
`00:33.06`	`snurre`	`we killed cthun for the first time 5 weeks ago`
`00:33.13`	`snurre`	`6 bosses down, working on patch atm`
`00:33.26`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`hehe :) we killed luckely last week thaddius`
`00:33.30`	`snurre`	`guild was created in late june`
`00:33.31`	`Entropism`	`anub, raz, faerlina, noth and...Maexxna?`
`00:33.48`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`kk that explains`
`00:33.51`	`snurre`	`anub, faerlina, maexxna, noth, heigan and raz`
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`00:33.58`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`yep easy`
`00:34.04`	`Slayman`	`we haven't killed C'Thun yet, but 5 bosses down in Naxx working on patch first day of attempts best was 64%`
`00:34.12`	`snurre`	`our people still need tier2`
`00:34.27`	`Slayman`	`it's not that hard, especially not Razovious`
`00:34.38`	`snurre`	`raz is completely independant on gear`
`00:34.42`	`snurre`	`which is what makes him so easy`
`00:34.55`	`Neebler`	`but alot of trash to clear to get to him`
`00:35.02`	`snurre`	`yeah`
`00:35.06`	`snurre`	`but not too difficult tho`
`00:35.07`	`Skyboat`	`well when I left my guild, they had skipped half of AQ40, wiped for over 2 weeks on Razuvious (o_O), couple of tries on Anub, then I kinda got sick of grinding through MC/BWL again to gear up newcomers still in greens/blues`
`00:35.10`	`snurre`	`just alot of it`
`00:35.13`	`Entropism`	`well, they had to keep MC guilds frm downing himn`
`00:35.23`	`cladhaire`	`DrDre: E: you should have finished reading the thread`
`00:35.23`	`cladhaire`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=28306370&sid=1&pageNo=7`
`00:35.24`	`Slayman`	`snurre: not true in all points`
`00:35.35`	`yssrn`	`I bet a MC guild could down him if they tried hard enough`
`00:35.39`	`Slayman`	`priests need toHit Stuff (mosty ZG stuff)`
`00:35.45`	`snurre`	`Slayman: okay, you need two priests with 3% hit`
`00:35.54`	`snurre`	`which you can get from BRD+scholo`
`00:35.58`	`snurre`	`or zg`
`00:36.02`	`snurre`	`or strat`
`00:36.03`	`Slayman`	`yeah besides you need nothing`
`00:36.05`	`snurre`	`if you want`
`00:36.23`	`Slayman`	`I'm working on my 11% just in case :D`
`00:36.28`	`snurre`	`that part is piss easy.. but it's far from a gear check like Maexxna is on MT, or patch is on healers + tanks`
`00:36.46`	`Entropism`	`what do you think the MT needs gearwise for maexxna?`
`00:36.46`	`Tain`	`I think the new mount stuff should allow Horde and Alliance to ride each other's mounts if you could get them.`
`00:36.54`	`Slayman`	`Maexxna on the other hand really needs some gear`
`00:37.16`	`snurre`	`full wrath is enough, i tanked her with 6 wrath, might boots and sartura gloves o.O`
`00:37.28`	`snurre`	`last week i tanked without flask too`
`00:37.29`	`DrDre`	`<@cladhaire> ah thats good news, i didnt want to read all the pages :P`
`00:37.31`	`snurre`	`was never below 4k hp`
`00:37.50`	`Entropism`	`we have 5 warrs with full wrath, 3 Armament shields, and 1 TF. 3 others with widow's remorse`
`00:37.56`	`snurre`	`so she's not very hard when people learn how to hot, shield and stuff before web`
`00:38.13`	`Tain`	`Down with reading!`
`00:38.27`	`snurre`	`we have one warr with full wrath, two with 2 DN and one with 7 wrath`
`00:38.32`	`snurre`	`that's our MT list for patch :/`
`00:38.38`	`Entropism`	`OUCH`
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`00:39.11`	`snurre`	`i have 7 wrath, but since ill start working shitty work shifts in a week's time i had to resign as tank and respecced to DPS again`
`00:39.12`	`Slayman`	`well we have 3 TF in raid, 2 on our Tanks and one on a rogue`
`00:39.20`	`Slayman`	`we were lucky`
`00:39.21`	`snurre`	`we dont have any TFs :(`
`00:39.33`	`Slayman`	`wanna know the best thing snurre?`
`00:39.54`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`lol`
`00:39.55`	`Slayman`	`one TF left, and we have 2 times one more half :D`
`00:40.02`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`hehe`
`00:40.03`	`Entropism`	`we HAD two TFs. One wwas absolutely worthless. had Sulf and ninja bid on the binding, so had both oranges and STILL couldnt do shit`
`00:40.12`	`Entropism`	`when he got TF made, he left the guild a week later`
`00:40.20`	`snurre`	`done MC for 16 months now, my old guild got one TF in the same run.. other than that we've never gotten any TFs`
`00:40.34`	`dpsfish`	`my guild has done mc for like 2 years`
`00:40.38`	`dpsfish`	`one binding only`
`00:40.41`	`dpsfish`	`never a binding from garr`
`00:40.42`	`dpsfish`	`thats it.`
`00:40.49`	`dpsfish`	`fucking sucks :)`
`00:40.50`	`Slayman`	`same on us TF and S-HoR player left`
`00:40.52`	`Entropism`	`if it makes you feel better, same timeframe in MC. NEVER seen a Spinal. Seen our first eye last month`
`00:41.00`	`dpsfish`	`aye same us!`
`00:41.03`	`dpsfish`	`no spinals EVER`
`00:41.04`	`dpsfish`	`wtf is that`
`00:41.14`	`Entropism`	`8 BREs, they're getting DEd now`
`00:41.20`	`Slayman`	`no Ashkhandi and no Reju Gem SUCKS hard !`
`00:41.22`	`dpsfish`	`no eoc`
`00:41.24`	`dpsfish`	`no ashkandi`
`00:41.28`	`dpsfish`	`no fucking anything wep wise`
`00:41.29`	`snurre`	`was in one of the first guilds to advance any properly in MC, got one of the first 10 ony necks in europe.. been doing MC nearly every week ever since and only seen about 7 bindings drop total`
`00:41.32`	`dpsfish`	`our raid seeds are broken clearly`
`00:41.32`	`Tain`	`well I know one thing, no hack ass warrior from my guild is getting any of my arcanite now!`
`00:41.53`	`snurre`	`Entropism: my old guild got eye 4 weeks in a row.. my new guild got eye 3 weeks in a row :p`
`00:41.56`	`Entropism`	`22 nef kills, 2 ashkandis, 2 shadow flames, 3 lokamirs. No eocs, NO CTS, NO SHIELDS`
`00:42.00`	`snurre`	`too bad that one SUCKS tho`
`00:42.16`	`Slayman`	`well dpsfish if you have any droods or locks needing T2 send em over 1-2 runs and they have full set`
`00:42.21`	`snurre`	`8 nef kills: 3 ashkandis, 2 shadowflames, 2 lokamirs :D`
`00:42.23`	`Tain`	`I never did get my Perditions though.`
`00:42.27`	`snurre`	`in my new guild`
`00:42.35`	`dpsfish`	`fuck you snurre :\|`
`00:42.45`	`dpsfish`	`so imba!`
`00:42.54`	`snurre`	`we've only had one CTS tho`
`00:42.58`	`snurre`	`and never seen AQR drop`
`00:43.03`	`dpsfish`	`AQR?`
`00:43.06`	`Entropism`	`Snurre... 14 drake talon pauldrons. 1 drake talisman (mine) and ZERO DTCs`
`00:43.09`	`snurre`	`got our first barbed choker ever this week`
`00:43.11`	`dpsfish`	`regalia?`
`00:43.19`	`Entropism`	`AQ ripper`
`00:43.20`	`snurre`	`ripper`
`00:43.22`	`dpsfish`	`ah`
`00:43.22`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`hehe`
`00:43.27`	`snurre`	`got three regalias this week :D`
`00:43.35`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`Naxx trash drops often shitloads of good weapon ^^`
`00:43.37`	`DrDre`	`i jus looked at that pic that fisqerq guy posted earlier trying to say FF ripped IE's design`
`00:43.37`	`snurre`	`(first three in this guild tho)`
`00:43.41`	`snurre`	`no they dont`
`00:43.49`	`snurre`	`no HoD's and no servo arms for us`
`00:43.54`	`Entropism`	`Darclite, we dont get trash drops =( My shield and the leather chest, thats it`
`00:43.57`	`snurre`	`like 8 necro-knight garbs and 4 shields`
`00:44.01`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`ai :/`
`00:44.01`	`DrDre`	`his left side of pic was comparing FF to FF? Wtf, his right side pic was comparing a 5 pixel arrow to IE's 5 pixel arrow?wtf?`
`00:44.12`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`we had like 3-4 weapons 2rings... and shield`
`00:44.18`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`and 3times leather chestplate`
`00:44.40`	`Slayman`	`i want Scepter of the False Prophet, and i want it bad, problem is 2 palas and a drood have more DKP, so I'm late in line`
`00:44.54`	`Entropism`	`Snurre, as an orc...am I insane for wanting the armaments axe over the pugio? I'm packing 10% hit normally, can get to 15%`
`00:45.12`	`snurre`	`luckily my guild doesn't really need DPS loot.. with one iblis and one maexxnas fang as our only naxx dps loot ever we can still push 11.5k raiddps`
`00:45.51`	`Plorkyeran`	`Would it be MH or OH?`
`00:46.02`	`snurre`	`Entropism: hm, dunno.. a long time ago i kinda wanted pugio too, but i never really wanted axe`
`00:46.05`	`snurre`	`even with the skill bonus`
`00:46.11`	`Entropism`	`MH till I get a hatchet of sundered bone The pugio would always be OH`
`00:46.37`	`snurre`	`as for hit I dont think it's worth gimping yourself to get 15% hit`
`00:46.44`	`Plorkyeran`	`Actually, either way as long as your MH isn't missing I think the axe is better for an orc`
`00:46.53`	`snurre`	`im currently only at 9% and I'm doing more dmg than I can handle`
`00:46.56`	`CIA-11`	`03tekkub * r12097 10FuBar_CorkFu/FuBar_CorkFu.toc: FuBar_CorkFu: Testing crap, pointless commit. Closes #3`
`00:46.58`	`snurre`	`13% on patch/loa tho`
`00:47.02`	`Entropism`	`well, CoTBD MH for now, have a widows remorse OH`
`00:47.21`	`snurre`	`i wouldnt swap widows for pugio`
`00:47.23`	`Plorkyeran`	`As the +1 hit will only be boosting your OH damage, and +5 skill will do a lot more damage than 1% hit on the OH`
`00:47.47`	`snurre`	`1hit boosts MH dmg too`
`00:48.00`	`Plorkyeran`	`Not if you already have 10% hit`
`00:48.05`	`Entropism`	`yeah, thats what I figured. I had the thing in my hands, it was mine to win, passed so a newer prot warr could get his shield though =(`
`00:48.10`	`Tain`	`Yeah but that's hardly important, the key is which weapon looks cooler as you're standing around in town?`
`00:48.18`	`Plorkyeran`	`They both look stupid`
`00:48.27`	`snurre`	`Plorkyeran: then too, you still have 14% miss rate`
`00:48.39`	`Entropism`	`snurre, only on whites though`
`00:48.44`	`snurre`	`ofc`
`00:48.52`	`snurre`	`but unless you're ally you cant HS very much`
`00:49.04`	`Entropism`	`well, less. +5 racial plus the stupid gloves`
`00:49.05`	`Plorkyeran`	`Yeah, but +5 skill is a much bigger white dps boost than +1% hit`
`00:49.26`	`snurre`	`i havent tried the gloves yet`
`00:49.29`	`snurre`	`dont think ill bother`
`00:49.38`	`Entropism`	`I didnt either, have nothing MH to try it with`
`00:49.39`	`snurre`	`i do more than enough dmg on trash and normal bosses`
`00:49.48`	`snurre`	`have to hold back everywhere but cthun, really`
`00:49.54`	`snurre`	`I pulled aggro 2mins into the fight at patchwerk`
`00:50.02`	`Entropism`	`well, glancings are the same agro, just less dmg`
`00:50.13`	`Entropism`	`so you're getting free dmg`
`00:50.18`	`snurre`	`more dmg = more aggro`
`00:50.42`	`Entropism`	`could have sworn the glances were the same as the reg hit`
`00:51.31`	`Entropism`	`could very well be wrong though`
`00:51.46`	`snurre`	`for white hits it's strictly dmg*0.8 for threat`
`00:51.52`	`snurre`	`doesnt matter if it's glancing, crit or hit`
`00:52.27`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`yea, ive recently found out you can pull on patch :/`
`00:52.59`	`snurre`	`our best try was 5%, and then I pulled agg at 70%`
`00:53.05`	`snurre`	`so i died + an OT`
`00:53.16`	`snurre`	`wouldve killed him if we had survived`
`00:54.54`	`Industrial`	`You know what sucks? Every mmorpg has armor sets that make everyone look the same with the same stats`
`00:55.04`	`Industrial`	`on the other hand if you have randomly or not so randomly genereated items`
`00:55.09`	`Industrial`	`people will go hunt for them endlessly`
`00:55.12`	`Industrial`	`just to get the best`
`00:55.21`	`snurre`	`have you seen AO? :p`
`00:55.34`	`Industrial`	`I was referring to that with the latter`
`00:55.39`	`snurre`	`the alien armor sets there are basically: 30 all skills, have fun grinding`
`00:55.47`	`Industrial`	`yeah`
`00:55.55`	`snurre`	`and 30 is like 15 more than the best non-set piece`
`00:55.58`	`snurre`	`gg`
`00:56.22`	`Industrial`	`go go expansions:`
`00:56.24`	`Industrial`	`0:(`
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`00:56.50`	`snurre`	`gah, shadowlands and symbiants... cries`
`00:56.58`	`snurre`	`now that is a prime example of how to ruin game balance`
`00:57.03`	`Industrial`	`yeah they kinda killed the game`
`00:57.04`	`Industrial`	`indeed`
`00:57.16`	`Industrial`	`Ao is a very very cool game`
`00:57.23`	`Entropism`	`Snurre, one thing good about SWG... Color customise your own armor, and no two sets were the same, due to the crafting system`
`00:57.25`	`Industrial`	`with its setting and just its mechanics`
`00:57.35`	`Industrial`	`too bad its too old to even look moderate now`
`00:57.37`	`snurre`	`atrox casting every nano in the game unbuffed and having 5k more hp than nanos.. gg :p`
`00:57.40`	`Entropism`	`however, the REST of SWG blew goats`
`00:58.14`	`Industrial`	`Yeah AO also had the custom item creating`
`00:58.40`	`snurre`	`i loved AO, was a great game if you ignore certain really fucked up aspects of it`
`00:58.55`	`Industrial`	`I wish it would be so that you could take a hilt of any weapon and put a tiny blad on it, it wouldnt swing for shit but at least it would be possible`
`00:59.08`	`Industrial`	`xD`
`01:00.13`	`Industrial`	`start of games just after beta is always the best part`
`01:00.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`i started playing AO when the free base game thing first came out but wasnt ready to pay for it monthly at that time and i realized not having the expansions put you way too far behind others`
`01:00.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`was a really good game though`
`01:00.39`	`Industrial`	`where everyone is new and noone has any ride yet`
`01:00.43`	`Industrial`	`and you go out on adventure`
`01:00.47`	`Industrial`	`thats mmorpg to me`
`01:00.59`	`Industrial`	`not where wow is at now :P`
`01:01.13`	`Industrial`	`"we have naxx on farm status" :\|`
`01:01.18`	`snurre`	`played it from beta until i got (As the only person in the history of AO) got permabanned as a person in feb 2005 :p`
`01:01.29`	`Industrial`	`lol`
`01:01.34`	`Entropism`	`hehe, I remember I was the first person hordeside on ym server to have a tier1 piece. People surrounded me to inspect me`
`01:01.58`	`snurre`	`i think i had one of the first 10 onyxia heads in EU, actually`
`01:02.11`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`i remember i was first lvl 60 on my server... ppl whispering me you are sick -.-`
`01:02.18`	`snurre`	`:p`
`01:02.20`	`Industrial`	`lol`
`01:03.10`	`Industrial`	`about the colored armor thingy`
`01:03.16`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`best thing was.. at lvl 60 i wrote a ticket to a gm and asked why i couldnt get and xp anymore ^^`
`01:03.18`	`Entropism`	`I remember hearing "What's a set bonus" a lot`
`01:03.30`	`Industrial`	`whakt i really like about city of villains and city of heroes is that your look does not affect your ability`
`01:03.34`	`snurre`	`http://home.no/lussebass/aoforums.jpg`
`01:04.10`	`Industrial`	`you can make your character look like whatever and you collect sort of tokens to level up certain attacks`
`01:04.15`	`Industrial`	`and abilities`
`01:04.24`	`Entropism`	`I was lvl 45 till I relised what telent points were`
`01:04.26`	`Industrial`	`and you can combine tokens them to make them stronger`
`01:04.28`	`Entropism`	`*realised`
`01:04.31`	`snurre`	`haha, Entropism`
`01:05.42`	`Entropism`	`even better, when I FIRST sign up for WOW... I was on a PVP server`
`01:05.42`	`Industrial`	`Yeah, character customisation is really the way to go with mmorpg's`
`01:05.43`	`Entropism`	`2 days to lvl 22. 3 WEEKS to lvl 24`
`01:05.43`	`snurre`	`:p`
`01:05.50`	`Entropism`	`there were 4 60 rogues sitting on the border to ashenvale =(`
`01:05.53`	`snurre`	`cant remember how much RL time it was, but 16 days to 60 on my first char`
`01:06.08`	`Industrial`	`I have no 60 character`
`01:06.09`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`01:06.12`	`snurre`	`lawl`
`01:06.17`	`Industrial`	`instead i rolled 30 characters`
`01:06.19`	`snurre`	`5d 13h on my hunter ;)`
`01:06.21`	`Entropism`	`lol`
`01:06.28`	`snurre`	`you're like some people i work with`
`01:06.30`	`Entropism`	`snurre, 60?`
`01:06.34`	`snurre`	`Entropism yeh`
`01:06.38`	`Industrial`	`I cant choose`
`01:06.38`	`Entropism`	`geeeez`
`01:06.42`	`Industrial`	`I have to play everything`
`01:06.48`	`Industrial`	`and I get bored very very esily`
`01:06.53`	`Industrial`	`easily*`
`01:06.53`	`snurre`	`i dinged 60 with triprunner dungarees`
`01:07.01`	`snurre`	`upgraded straight to dragonstalker :p`
`01:07.13`	`*** join/#wowace FroMaster (i=FroMaste@rrcs-24-199-20-58.west.biz.rr.com)`
`01:07.20`	`Entropism`	`coming over from SWG, I was a creature handler (picture a hunter with 3 pets at once) so I chose hunter immediately`
`01:07.24`	`Plorkyeran`	`There really aren't any significant upgrades over those for a long time`
`01:07.34`	`ckknight`	`gah`
`01:07.35`	`Industrial`	`hmm guess i missed SWG`
`01:07.38`	`ckknight`	`another Creatine shake`
`01:07.40`	`Industrial`	`I know _nothing_ about swg`
`01:07.40`	`snurre`	`Plorkyeran: yeah, earliest is maraudon`
`01:07.45`	`ckknight`	`hyper and edgy again`
`01:07.46`	`Plorkyeran`	`I think I used them until I got my rank 8 pants on my hunter`
`01:07.50`	`snurre`	`which is a random drop, so not worth spending time on`
`01:07.55`	`FroMaster`	`Where can I download a recent version of ag_unitframe? Something from SVN would be nice`
`01:07.57`	`Entropism`	`then when i realised hunters were boring as shit in raids... 12 days played on my warr`
`01:08.00`	`Industrial`	`ckknight: creatine :\|`
`01:08.15`	`snurre`	`done some MC and bwl on my hunter.. omg so slack`
`01:08.44`	`Plorkyeran`	`Hunters are more interesting than frost mages for raiding`
`01:08.44`	`snurre`	`ridiculous that some classes have it that easy while others are using abilities at 90% of every globalcooldown`
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`01:08.55`	`Entropism`	`after getting ashkandi, doing the PVP grind... how the HELL do people like MS builds?!?`
`01:09.04`	`Industrial`	`<S?`
`01:09.32`	`Industrial`	`MS*`
`01:09.32`	`Entropism`	`mortal strike`
`01:09.32`	`Entropism`	`it's as boring as DPSing with a pally`
`01:09.32`	`snurre`	`MS gets outdated somewhere around BWL itemlevel-wise`
`01:09.32`	`snurre`	`after that it's fury and prot for life`
`01:09.33`	`Plorkyeran`	`It's the only build that can beat a good healer who isn't afk :P`
`01:09.40`	`Entropism`	`snurre, not about DPS, it's about boredom`
`01:09.52`	`snurre`	`well yeah`
`01:10.04`	`snurre`	`imo 2h fury is close to being as boring`
`01:10.11`	`snurre`	`but at least it performs better`
`01:10.11`	`Entropism`	`swing....swing....MS....OP...swing...swing...`
`01:10.14`	`snurre`	`which is what counts`
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`01:10.32`	`Industrial`	`i like DoT caster classes`
`01:10.32`	`dpsfish`	`2h fury isnt proper fury! :P`
`01:10.33`	`FroMaster`	`Can someone recommend a UnitFrame for use in Raids?`
`01:10.40`	`snurre`	`aguf`
`01:10.43`	`Industrial`	`or a DoT hybrid like DaoC has some`
`01:10.57`	`Entropism`	`2H fuery is kinda fun though`
`01:10.57`	`Entropism`	`*fury`
`01:11.07`	`Industrial`	`but warlock has just too many tricks up his sleeve`
`01:11.08`	`Industrial`	`:(`
`01:11.13`	`FroMaster`	`Snurre: Has work been done to it to make it not comsume 100% of the cpu?`
`01:11.19`	`Industrial`	`FroMaster: unitframes have nothing to do with raid frames`
`01:11.38`	`snurre`	`wow`
`01:11.46`	`snurre`	`TBC has enemy castbar in standard options`
`01:11.52`	`Industrial`	`tbc?`
`01:11.57`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`by default?`
`01:12.01`	`snurre`	`yea`
`01:12.09`	`Industrial`	`url?`
`01:12.17`	`snurre`	`no url`
`01:12.19`	`Plorkyeran`	`Given the options of how it is now or built in, I'd rather have built in`
`01:12.46`	`Entropism`	`ok folks, time to watch some TV and unwind. have a good night`
`01:12.49`	`Plorkyeran`	`Not existing at all would be even nicer, but they apparently don't want to stop providing that information to clients`
`01:14.28`	`Industrial`	`http://home.no/lussebass/alo.jpg`
`01:14.29`	`Industrial`	`:o`
`01:15.22`	`Industrial`	`(yes i always poke around)`
`01:15.34`	`snurre`	`haha`
`01:15.58`	`FroMaster`	`Can I get aguf to replace the Raid Frames?`
`01:16.09`	`snurre`	`yes`
`01:16.13`	`Industrial`	`uf isnt a word`
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`01:17.06`	`FroMaster`	`So then help me out with the lingo..`
`01:17.16`	`Industrial`	`'unitframe'`
`01:17.51`	`FroMaster`	`I've got ag_unitframes installed. I'd like to figure out how to use it to replace the default unitframes when in a raid.`
`01:18.18`	`Industrial`	`The collection of meters and textual representations of your health and power state`
`01:18.26`	`Industrial`	`\o/`
`01:18.46`	`Neebler`	`fromaster: type /aguf and go from there`
`01:18.50`	`snurre`	`/aguf config`
`01:18.55`	`Neebler`	`err yea that command`
`01:18.58`	`snurre`	`then show raid frames`
`01:19.09`	`Industrial`	`FroMaster: ignore me btw, I hve saggy tits`
`01:19.28`	`snurre`	`dotn we all`
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`01:19.56`	`deci`	`i wish my bg map would stay hidden when i close it`
`01:20.14`	`Industrial`	`it does by default`
`01:20.16`	`Industrial`	`your fault!`
`01:20.25`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`01:20.34`	`Industrial`	`blaming other people is also one of my hobbies`
`01:20.43`	`FroMaster`	`Thanks for the help.. its working now`
`01:27.17`	`Industrial`	`http://www.sharpe-shell.org/e107_plugins/autogallery/Gallery/User%20Screenshots/White_deluxe.PNG`
`01:27.21`	`Industrial`	`MOAR`
`01:27.23`	`Industrial`	`I love these wallpapers`
`01:27.49`	`cladhaire`	`Industrial: I prefer real girls =/`
`01:28.00`	`cladhaire`	`http://www.skins.be/page/ ftw`
`01:28.12`	`Industrial`	`I really like the vector style`
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`01:29.32`	`snurre`	`i hate bright desktops`
`01:29.35`	`cladhaire`	`i can't fuck a vector.`
`01:29.37`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`01:29.52`	`snurre`	`never say never, clad`
`01:30.06`	`cladhaire`	`i won't fuck a vector.`
`01:30.09`	`cladhaire`	`better? =)`
`01:30.15`	`snurre`	`again, never say never :D`
`01:30.19`	`Industrial`	`http://www.skins.be/wallpaper/alexis-bledel/24309/1024x768/`
`01:30.25`	`Industrial`	`I be theres an alien in her head`
`01:30.27`	`Industrial`	`like in MIB`
`01:30.37`	`Industrial`	`and her forehead is the door`
`01:31.20`	`snurre`	`that's the girl from girlmore girls?`
`01:31.36`	`cladhaire`	`hehe`
`01:31.37`	`Industrial`	`yeah`
`01:31.38`	`snurre`	`the mom > her anyway`
`01:31.43`	`Industrial`	`true`
`01:31.43`	`Industrial`	`:`
`01:31.45`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`01:33.38`	`FroMaster`	`Does ag_unitframes use CTRA for information?`
`01:35.28`	`Plorkyeran`	`There's no relevant information to get from CTRA`
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`01:36.33`	`FroMaster`	`I just loaded aguf and connected to an AV, my CPU is at 100% and been here for about 2min now... Looks like its trying to get information to update the other members of the raid`
`01:36.53`	`FroMaster`	`Not really usable`
`01:41.30`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`its odd, UI memory usage seems to be up for everyone in my raid tonight`
`01:41.37`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`no explaination, nothign changed but the patch`
`01:48.49`	`cladhaire`	`they`
`01:48.54`	`cladhaire`	`they've messed up before`
`01:48.58`	`FroMaster`	`So, how can I troubleshoot PerfectRaid not loading.. doing a /praid show gives me an error`
`01:51.16`	`FroMaster`	`Does PerfectRaid have any dependencies?`
`01:51.42`	`Xuerian`	`They're all embedded..`
`01:52.05`	`snurre`	`interesting.. quest limit is 25`
`01:52.08`	`snurre`	`instead of 20`
`01:52.15`	`CIA-11`	`03tekkub * r12098 10FuBar_CorkFu/FuBar_CorkFu.toc: FuBar_CorkFu - Another pointless test commit. Closes #3`
`01:52.23`	`cladhaire`	`FroMaster: its probably an AceConsole error.. tons of mods are having the issue`
`01:53.13`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`weird`
`01:53.41`	`FroMaster`	`Should I be using the version posted for download on the wowinterface.com site or the SVN build?`
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`01:56.12`	`Plorkyeran`	`fun`
`01:56.13`	`Plorkyeran`	`http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3544/wtfnw0.jpg`
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`01:56.28`	`Kaelten`	`sorry for the slow down on the site guys`
`01:56.40`	`Kaelten`	`I'm going to be looking at more ram soon.`
`01:57.29`	`FroMaster`	`6`
`01:57.34`	`FroMaster`	`What's the new SVN url?`
`01:57.41`	`cladhaire`	`FroMaster: Try the latest svn zip.. http://www.wowace.com/files/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.zip`
`01:57.42`	`Slayman`	`hey folks can one relocate all addons with a single action? would be awesome otherwise it would be hell a lot of work`
`01:57.53`	`cladhaire`	`Slayman: Not really, no`
`01:58.01`	`Slayman`	`sigh`
`01:58.18`	`Slayman`	`~whaleslap Slayman`
`01:58.19`	`purl`	`ACTION beats Slayman upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh`
`01:59.19`	`Slayman`	`well at least the servers are down and i have nothing better to do-`
`01:59.26`	`FroMaster`	`cladhaire: That's what I have installed. Thanks.. I think the reason it might not be loading is be because I was already in AV, exited, then installed it`
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`02:00.07`	`cladhaire`	`FroMaster: Hrm.. it should still be loading..`
`02:00.10`	`cladhaire`	`no errors at all?`
`02:00.13`	`cladhaire`	`lemme try to load it quick`
`02:00.35`	`FroMaster`	`Nothing in my chat log to show it had an issue`
`02:01.08`	`cladhaire`	`odd`
`02:01.09`	`cladhaire`	`gimme a sec`
`02:02.43`	`Slayman`	`cladhaire: a quick question, is it intended to not see active Druid HoTs but the Priest HoTs ?`
`02:02.54`	`cladhaire`	`Slayman: Given that they'r enot coded yet =) yep :P`
`02:03.09`	`cladhaire`	`it'll be trivial to get the code in there, just needs to happen`
`02:03.09`	`Slayman`	`glad it wasn't my fault :D`
`02:03.13`	`cladhaire`	`there's a bunch that needs to be done :P`
`02:03.39`	`cladhaire`	`oh no`
`02:03.39`	`cladhaire`	`an error!`
`02:04.22`	`Slayman`	`cladhaire: you want an error? : rogue got the yellow Mana message today :-D`
`02:04.33`	`cladhaire`	`haha`
`02:04.34`	`cladhaire`	`that's nothing P`
`02:04.35`	`cladhaire`	`:P`
`02:05.09`	`deci`	`i found the problem with my increasing rate, it was simpleminimap`
`02:05.11`	`Slayman`	`I get it! that's a feature`
`02:05.24`	`deci`	`removed it and my increasing rate in raids was ~30 instead of 70`
`02:06.13`	`snurre`	`okay, they changed rage generation back a bit at least`
`02:06.25`	`snurre`	`it's playable again now phew`
`02:06.37`	`Xuerian`	`Increasing rate of 30kb/s? 0_o`
`02:06.59`	`Xuerian`	`I get eight or so fully kitted out in raids... what are you running, anyway...`
`02:07.12`	`CIA-11`	`03cladhaire * r12099 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.toc: PerfectRaid: Hey asshole.. when you rename a file.. make sure you load it in the .toc`
`02:07.18`	`cladhaire`	`should be all set now =)`
`02:07.38`	`FroMaster`	`How can I get the latest version?`
`02:07.41`	`snurre`	`clad is so mean :(`
`02:08.05`	`cladhaire`	`snurre: Why am I mean?`
`02:08.18`	`snurre`	`called someone an asshole :(`
`02:08.19`	`FroMaster`	`Normally I'd do an SVN update, but can't seem to connect to the SVN server.. think the URL changed, but can't figre out the new one`
`02:08.22`	`cladhaire`	`FroMaster: That link i sent earlier.. http://www.wowace.com/files/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.zip will always be the latest version`
`02:08.25`	`cladhaire`	`snurre: I'm the asshole =)`
`02:08.32`	`cladhaire`	`snurre: I don't call other people assholes`
`02:08.33`	`snurre`	`see, you're mean!`
`02:08.56`	`cladhaire`	`but i'm also an asshole`
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`02:09.31`	`ToastTheif`	`hello`
`02:09.43`	`ToastTheif`	`so what's up with the site? new hosting?`
`02:09.44`	`Gngsk`	`you won't be gettin' any of my toast, that's for sure. unless you can find it`
`02:09.47`	`Tain`	`Toasted asshole?`
`02:10.12`	`ToastTheif`	`O.o Tain`
`02:10.34`	`ToastTheif`	`that sucks`
`02:10.48`	`ToastTheif`	`wasen't there a post about new hosting?`
`02:11.42`	`cladhaire`	`yeah whats up`
`02:12.16`	`ToastTheif`	`right`
`02:13.08`	`FroMaster`	`cladhaire: Still didn't load. And I checked the change log and I have the 12099 version you just uploaded... Ideas?`
`02:13.30`	`deci`	`Xuerian: http://www.imagesocket.com/view/addons_511.JPG`
`02:13.37`	`Kaelten`	`Xuerian: its spost to be clearing up...`
`02:13.42`	`Kaelten`	`I'm not happy with that`
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`02:14.12`	`cladhaire`	`FroMaster: No errors... says nothing? Do me a favor and make sure you have "Load out of date addons" enabled, and if you do.. try to load JUST pr and see what happens`
`02:14.12`	`cladhaire`	`if you can =(`
`02:14.29`	`Xuerian`	`Well, I've got a sucky ISP.... They try, but it's dialup.... maybe the dns they point me to is just slow. :P`
`02:14.39`	`FroMaster`	`I`
`02:14.44`	`FroMaster`	`I'll check it now`
`02:15.00`	`Slayman`	`woohoo except for oUF and FuBar and it's plugins everything is relocated`
`02:15.32`	`FroMaster`	`Load out of date AddOns's is checked.. I'm gonna disable all my mods but PR`
`02:16.21`	`FroMaster`	`Interface\AddOns\PerfectRaid\Localisation.lua:1:attempt to call global 'AceLibrary' (a nil value)`
`02:16.50`	`cladhaire`	`FroMaster: That's odd`
`02:16.50`	`cladhaire`	`gimme a sec`
`02:17.10`	`FroMaster`	`The LIBS directory is emtpy :)`
`02:17.19`	`cladhaire`	`FroMaster: Yeah`
`02:17.20`	`cladhaire`	`that'll do it =)`
`02:17.23`	`cladhaire`	`lemme check`
`02:17.29`	`cladhaire`	`the script is still a work in progres.. and it just got moved over =)`
`02:18.12`	`FroMaster`	`Great.. the dns just updated for me and Now I get the MyDomain page..`
`02:19.04`	`cladhaire`	`ack`
`02:19.04`	`cladhaire`	`heh`
`02:19.30`	`Xuerian`	`Deci: I run with a full fubar compliment, id2, praid, ptarg, ora, bigwigs, hostel, perl classic, xrs, sct, oCB, sprocket, itemrack, squeenix, tinytip, bongos, clique, detox, druidbar, oskin, superinspect, tinypad, visor, and yatlas, squishy.. I stay around 25mb, with 10~kb/s increasing in a 40man..... What hidden buttons are you touching?`
`02:21.21`	`deci`	`i think its the Nurfed addons`
`02:21.30`	`deci`	`moreso the actionbars`
`02:21.43`	`snurre`	`fuck that then, bt2 ftw`
`02:21.53`	`deci`	`i need to switch to bt or bongos or something`
`02:22.04`	`Xuerian`	`I'd link you to LuaProfiler, but wowinterface is down too.... I wasn't sure, is wowi on the same server as ace? 0_o`
`02:22.31`	`Xuerian`	`BT is great but it's been having some profile issues, you could use bongos with '/bongos reuse' till it clears up`
`02:23.09`	`Xuerian`	`Or is my dns fucking with me �_�`
`02:23.13`	`deci`	`ill ss my ui real quick too`
`02:23.29`	`Slayman`	`wowinterface ist working just fin`
`02:23.30`	`cladhaire`	`Xuerian: WowInterface is just fine.`
`02:23.30`	`Slayman`	`e`
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`02:23.38`	`Xuerian`	`Greeeeeeaaaatt...`
`02:24.01`	`Slayman`	`your IPS appears to be Blizzard, they fuck us all the time`
`02:24.29`	`deci`	`http://www.imagesocket.com/view/UInew54b.jpg`
`02:25.06`	`deci`	`suppose i should get bongos and agUF after the raid`
`02:25.10`	`Gngsk`	`nurfed UI for the loss!`
`02:25.18`	`Xuerian`	`Nope, can't find it. /sigh. Time to watch Boondock Saints. >_<`
`02:25.21`	`Gngsk`	`you mean bartender2 and aguf`
`02:25.52`	`Xuerian`	`Deci: Get perl classic even, just not nurfed`
`02:25.54`	`kb1ibt`	`how does squeenix do that semicircle?`
`02:26.00`	`Xuerian`	`Gngsk: Bongos is a excellently coded addon.`
`02:26.57`	`Xuerian`	`kb1ibt: It uses a mask, apparently the minimap is one of the only things to support masking :P`
`02:27.16`	`Slayman`	`Gnsk: he meant BT2 and oUF`
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`02:27.40`	`Gngsk`	`nurfed is excellent too!`
`02:28.02`	`kb1ibt`	`when it comes to customizability nothing beats DUF`
`02:28.15`	`ermer`	`http://www.fewb.net/ermer/lol_uui.jpg`
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`02:28.17`	`Slayman`	`all of tullers addons are great`
`02:28.17`	`ermer`	`i set that up`
`02:28.20`	`Xuerian`	`Right now we're facing a 30KB/s increasing rate :P`
`02:28.25`	`ermer`	`using nurfed + ace addons`
`02:29.03`	`ermer`	`those uf are nurfed not ag`
`02:29.04`	`deci`	`i dont even know what the increasing rate does, i just see everyone ranting about low rates :P`
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`02:29.29`	`kb1ibt`	`the rate at which the mods eat memory before a GC`
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`02:29.55`	`FroMaster`	`I'm seeing the same thing.. My memory has gone from 51mb to 62mb in under 3 min...`
`02:30.06`	`kb1ibt`	`the less memory it takes the better`
`02:30.21`	`FroMaster`	`It just did a GC and dropped to 49mb`
`02:30.22`	`deci`	`lower rate means less garabge collection?`
`02:30.27`	`Xuerian`	`Yew`
`02:30.31`	`Xuerian`	`yes :P*`
`02:30.33`	`kb1ibt`	`that too`
`02:30.33`	`deci`	`i have no idea how it works lol`
`02:30.35`	`deci`	`:P`
`02:31.25`	`Xuerian`	`Deci. Garbage collection is a set point above initial memory. Since LUA doesn't clean up trash (Used variables, tables, the like) immediately, it has garbage collections periodically. The lower the rate, the slower you get to the gc point.`
`02:31.33`	`Neebler`	`http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs11/i/2006/172/0/a/RogueKnight_VS_Butcher_by_kunkka.jpg`
`02:31.45`	`kb1ibt`	`well w/ lua 5.1 GC is going to be less of an issue but it still will be in affect (it sounds accourding to publically accessable forums like it will be GC individually per addon not a master GC)`
`02:31.48`	`Slayman`	`how does GetLink works, if it uses no saved vars?`
`02:32.01`	`Xuerian`	`GetLink?`
`02:32.20`	`Slayman`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4360`
`02:32.31`	`deci`	`does the rate and gc affect framerate by chance?`
`02:32.44`	`Slayman`	`thats the base of Ludwig: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5174`
`02:32.45`	`kb1ibt`	`GetItemLink()`
`02:32.59`	`Slayman`	`when GC occurs your fps should go down`
`02:33.04`	`kb1ibt`	`Slayman, those are stored in the WDG folder not in saved vars`
`02:34.05`	`kb1ibt`	`s/WDG/WDB/`
`02:34.37`	`Slayman`	`so we can say this GetLinks Feature as an "Itemdatabase" is superior to KCI, omitting the other parts of KCI`
`02:34.52`	`Kaelten`	`bah`
`02:35.09`	`Slayman`	`kb1ibt: i know it's itemcache.wdb or somesuch`
`02:35.22`	`Slayman`	`kaelten is here, greetings`
`02:35.41`	`Kaelten`	`ya I had to bah at your reference to Superior to KCI :[`
`02:35.44`	`Kaelten`	`ya I had to bah at your reference to Superior to KCI :p`
`02:36.06`	`Slayman`	`where there any updates lately in KCI? haven't noticed any pls don't hate me now`
`02:36.14`	`Kaelten`	`nope`
`02:36.22`	`deci`	`hmm so i wonder how much of an increase in framerate ill get switching addons, my computer is pretty old lol, geforce4/1.2ghz processor, so i avg 12 fps in raids lol :(`
`02:36.23`	`Kaelten`	`I've started work on the next version though`
`02:36.28`	`Kaelten`	`its going to be changing a good bit though`
`02:36.32`	`Slayman`	`sounds promising`
`02:36.38`	`kb1ibt`	`yes and no, since kci can only access things in the WDB folder but at the same time no mod can randomly pull up a GetItemLink() w/o it being in the WDB folder first`
`02:36.43`	`Slayman`	`how far you got?`
`02:37.17`	`Kaelten`	`I'm laying otu some of the utility features that used to be modules but are finding themselves turned into embedable libraries`
`02:38.07`	`kb1ibt`	`so if you clean your WDB but keep the savedvars intact the next time you try to link something that isn't in your WDB folder it will kick you from the server`
`02:38.49`	`kergoth`	`Kaelten: is your work in progress item tooltip hooking lib in svn yet? :)`
`02:39.12`	`Slayman`	`w00t is going on with the SVN`
`02:39.19`	*** join/#wowace vid` (i=vid@c-68-36-197-141.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
`02:39.20`	`Kaelten`	`kergoth not just yet :)`
`02:39.30`	`Kaelten`	`Slayman: chatlink in KCI works the same way thta mod does`
`02:39.52`	`Kaelten`	`kergoth: been helping on the server`
`02:40.17`	`Slayman`	`Kaelten: like chatlink, one thing i dislike is [x] transform into [Worn Axe] or something like this`
`02:40.33`	`Slayman`	`s/like/I like/`
`02:40.45`	`Slayman`	`nothing to worry now`
`02:40.53`	`Kaelten`	`well all my modules are getting a rewrite`
`02:41.13`	`Kaelten`	`and the package is going to be broken up into seperate folders to allow for easier modulization`
`02:41.23`	`PProvost`	`woohoo! website up... no svn yet though`
`02:41.34`	`kb1ibt`	`hopefully you make them fully lua5.1 compatible so you don't have too much work come TBC`
`02:42.02`	`Kaelten`	`kb1ibt: hopefully :)`
`02:43.25`	`PProvost`	`kb1ibt, this is a bit of an obsession for you lately eh?`
`02:43.45`	`kb1ibt`	`lets just say i have my reasons`
`02:44.32`	`Kaelten`	`PProvost: try www.wowace.com/svn/wowace`
`02:44.51`	`PProvost`	`no dice`
`02:45.05`	`PProvost`	`404`
`02:45.10`	`Kaelten`	`hrm`
`02:45.12`	`Kaelten`	`works for me`
`02:45.14`	`Kaelten`	`http://www.wowace.com/trac`
`02:45.14`	`Kaelten`	`?`
`02:45.35`	`PProvost`	`404`
`02:45.40`	`cladhaire`	`then your dns is borked.`
`02:45.42`	`Slayman`	`I'm getting redirected to an ad site :>http://www.wowace.com/svn/wowace/`
`02:45.44`	`Tain`	`hee hee just watched "Snake in Eagle's Shadow". Love those KungFu movies from the 70s.`
`02:45.44`	`Kaelten`	`you must be having dns issues`
`02:45.59`	`Kaelten`	`Slayman: those should go away soon.....`
`02:46.08`	`PProvost`	`www.wowace.com is working. The rest is subfolders. Can't be DNS.`
`02:46.09`	`Kaelten`	`they better or I'll find other dns options`
`02:47.02`	`PProvost`	`[30] » nslookup www.wowace.com`
`02:47.02`	`PProvost`	`Server: nsseat01.verizon.net`
`02:47.02`	`PProvost`	`Address: 68.238.128.12:53`
`02:47.03`	`PProvost`	`Non-authoritative answer:`
`02:47.03`	`PProvost`	`Name: www.wowace.com`
`02:47.03`	`PProvost`	`Addresses: 69.25.27.171, 66.150.161.140, 66.150.161.141, 69.25.27.170`
`02:47.05`	`PProvost`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:47.13`	`Slayman`	`one of the best things coming from the USA is Tabasco ,thank you americans for that!`
`02:47.17`	`Kaelten`	`ya which is a problem`
`02:47.34`	`Kaelten`	`we redid the A record for www.wowace.com so those extra... damn ad servers... should fix`
`02:48.48`	`Tain`	`Battlestar Galactica starts up in a couple weeks. New seasons yay.`
`02:49.26`	`Industrial`	`~/join #anime`
`02:49.29`	`Industrial`	`ouch`
`02:50.28`	`*** join/#wowace FISKER_Q (i=blah2@85.24.17.250)`
`02:51.05`	`Kaelten`	`http://www.wowace.com/trac`
`02:51.11`	`Kaelten`	`doesn't work PProvost?`
`02:51.28`	`PProvost`	`one sec.`
`02:51.39`	`PProvost`	`404`
`02:51.42`	`Tain`	`~/join #yourmom`
`02:52.02`	`PProvost`	`[33] » ping www.wowace.com`
`02:52.02`	`PProvost`	`Pinging wowace.com [65.98.29.122] with 32 bytes of data:`
`02:52.02`	`PProvost`	`Reply from 65.98.29.122: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=53`
`02:52.02`	`PProvost`	`Reply from 65.98.29.122: bytes=32 time=111ms TTL=53`
`02:52.02`	`PProvost`	`Reply from 65.98.29.122: bytes=32 time=112ms TTL=53`
`02:52.05`	`PProvost`	`Ping statistics for 65.98.29.122:`
`02:52.08`	`PProvost`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:52.09`	`PProvost`	`Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:`
`02:52.11`	`PProvost`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:52.13`	`PProvost`	`Right IP address?`
`02:53.37`	vid`	`im gettin all the 69.25 and 66.150 IP's still pointing to the parking page. dns flush does nothin either so looks like its something with dns record that its pullin down`
`02:53.39`	`Kaelten`	`nope`
`02:54.11`	`Kaelten`	`65.98.61.58 www.wowace.com`
`02:54.14`	`Kaelten`	`thats the correct ip`
`02:55.02`	vid`	`sweet`
`02:55.02`	vid`	`thanks`
`02:55.06`	`PProvost`	`Should I be getting a page at www.wowace.com/forums on 65.98.29.122?`
`02:55.08`	vid`	`put it in my hosts file :)`
`02:55.14`	vid`	`its a vhost`
`02:55.15`	`*** join/#wowace amoros (i=amoros@147.46.40.190)`
`02:55.18`	vid`	`so you cant go direct to ip`
`02:55.20`	`Kaelten`	`PProvost: no`
`02:55.23`	vid`	`gotta come from a dns reference`
`02:55.26`	vid`	`so put it in hosts file`
`02:55.27`	vid`	`65.98.61.58 www.wowace.com`
`02:55.30`	vid`	`and you can get to site`
`02:55.32`	`PProvost`	`I know...`
`02:55.42`	`*** join/#wowace weronika (n=weronika@cpc3-nott6-0-0-cust1013.nott.cable.ntl.com)`
`02:55.42`	`PProvost`	`I'm not going straight to IP.`
`02:55.48`	`Kaelten`	`all our ips are at 65.98.61.58-62 I think`
`02:56.09`	`PProvost`	`But nslookup www.wowace.com gets me 65.98.29.122 and I see the wiki there.`
`02:56.21`	`Kaelten`	`thats weird`
`02:56.22`	`weronika`	`hey guys`
`02:56.23`	vid`	`weird`
`02:56.28`	`PProvost`	`Oh well.`
`02:56.29`	`Kaelten`	`damn dns`
`02:56.34`	`PProvost`	`I'll just add a hosts entry for now.`
`02:56.45`	`PProvost`	`Probably just old DNS prop issues working themselves out.`
`02:57.02`	`weronika`	`does anybody know if aguf can change Raid Frames ? i cant stand blizzard ones or ctra`
`02:57.12`	`yoss`	`it has raid frames`
`02:57.12`	`Kaelten`	`we'll know for sure in the next 48 hours if things continue`
`02:57.17`	`PProvost`	`ya`
`02:57.20`	`Tain`	`Down with dns!`
`02:57.25`	`weronika`	`how do i enable them, im tottaly clueless`
`02:57.37`	`yoss`	`~/aguf config`
`02:57.49`	`weronika`	`tried there nothing seems to stand out`
`02:58.03`	`yoss`	`ensure that the frames aren't hidden`
`02:58.12`	`Gngsk`	`unit frames -> raid frames -> uncheck hide frames`
`02:58.38`	`Kaelten`	`well guys gnight`
`02:58.42`	`weronika`	`k, will try it when wow is back online, for now any1 got screenshot link of wht it will look like ?`
`02:58.43`	`Kaelten`	`later`
`02:58.51`	`PProvost`	`Night Kael`
`02:59.32`	`kb1ibt`	`wow the page is slow right now too`
`03:00.09`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`page dosnt show up for me at all... not even with ip`
`03:00.32`	`*** join/#wowace DaNET24030 (n=WinNT@130.212.150.62)`
`03:00.45`	`PProvost`	`Got a buddy on the other side of town to nslookup www.wowace.com and he got back a bunch of even weirder addresses than the rest of us.`
`03:01.00`	`PProvost`	`FFOS\|Darclite, ip won't work unless you put it in a hosts file.`
`03:01.12`	vid`	`been trying to get detox for last 2 hours`
`03:01.14`	vid`	`thought i was a moron`
`03:01.18`	vid`	`glad i came in here`
`03:01.19`	vid`	`hehe`
`03:01.22`	vid`	`finally got it`
`03:01.36`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`detox is Uba :)`
`03:01.43`	`ckknight`	`gah`
`03:01.45`	`yoss`	`weronika - http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2493/zsquishsslp2.jpg is once possibility. That's MG2 but you can get the same thing out of aguf`
`03:01.48`	vid`	`yea i need to convert all my mods over`
`03:01.49`	`ckknight`	`this math problem is killing me`
`03:01.54`	vid`	`not enough time in the day`
`03:02.14`	`Tain`	`1+1=2`
`03:02.52`	`ckknight`	`anybody want to take a shot?`
`03:03.00`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`those frqames ag_unitframes right?`
`03:03.01`	`ckknight`	`it's actually a math/cs problem`
`03:03.17`	`ckknight`	`Your team is setting up a computing resource devoted to batch processing of compute-bound jobs. In addition, you have decided to use static scheduling for each period of time. Naturally, you wish to maximize the income for each set of jobs run, and you have been given the responsibility of finding an optimal mix of jobs for each set of candidate jobs.`
`03:03.17`	`Industrial`	`im not good at math`
`03:03.18`	`ckknight`	`The jobs are submitted by an open bid process: clients will specify the amount of processor time they wish to reserve and the dollar amount that they wish to pay. If a job finishes early, the client will still pay the full amount, and if a job exceeds the requested time, it will be terminated and (of course) the client will still pay the full amount.`
`03:03.18`	`ckknight`	`For purposes of scheduling, your team assumes that each job will in fact use its entire scheduled time slot. In the interests of good customer relations, though, you are not to include a bid in the schedule if there is not sufficient time available to satisfy it — we’re not going to over-book like the airlines do, and then hope someone doesn’t use the full allotment!`
`03:03.18`	`Industrial`	`so`
`03:03.18`	`Tain`	`2+2=5 for very large values of 2.`
`03:03.19`	`Industrial`	`sure`
`03:03.22`	`cladhaire`	`whoa`
`03:03.50`	`weronika`	`thnx yoss thats precisely wht i need, a cleaner ui`
`03:03.55`	`ckknight`	`where I'm at is that I have the inputs, I sorted them by money/time`
`03:04.07`	`cladhaire`	`do you have your time slots defined`
`03:04.13`	`ckknight`	`but if I traverse it linearly, adding up the appropriate values, it doesn't always get the optimal values`
`03:04.13`	`cladhaire`	`or are they undefined at this point?`
`03:04.36`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, you know everyone's bid for money and time`
`03:04.41`	`ckknight`	`and the total possible time you are allowed`
`03:04.48`	`cladhaire`	`and the expected time of each job?`
`03:04.54`	`ckknight`	`yes.`
`03:05.07`	`ckknight`	`e.g.`
`03:05.07`	`cladhaire`	`then calculate some value the "money-value"`
`03:05.09`	`ckknight`	`(more spam)`
`03:05.13`	`ckknight`	`10`
`03:05.13`	`ckknight`	`19 0.78`
`03:05.13`	`ckknight`	`12 0.31`
`03:05.14`	`ckknight`	`17 0.77`
`03:05.14`	`ckknight`	`22 0.77`
`03:05.18`	`ckknight`	`8 0.56`
`03:05.18`	`ckknight`	`10 0.33`
`03:05.20`	`ckknight`	`17 0.35`
`03:05.22`	`ckknight`	`24 0.12`
`03:05.24`	`ckknight`	`22 0.70`
`03:05.26`	`ckknight`	`5 0.52`
`03:05.28`	`ckknight`	`120`
`03:05.30`	`ckknight`	`10 values`
`03:05.32`	`ckknight`	`then it lists the 10, with first column being time, second being money`
`03:05.36`	`ckknight`	`total time at the end (120)`
`03:05.43`	`cladhaire`	`standard greedy algorith.. while there is somethign in the bin.. take the highest payout item.. and run it. You just have to make your payout value take things into account`
`03:05.44`	`ckknight`	`you want to maximize your total dollar amount`
`03:05.50`	`cladhaire`	`nod`
`03:06.00`	`ckknight`	`so what I did was sort by money/time`
`03:06.06`	`cladhaire`	`no fair share? if high payout items keep coming in, you don't have to guarantee the low bid items get something`
`03:06.24`	`Tain`	`That's not taking into account the bribes, kickbacks, and palm greasing you have to do in order to get permits.`
`03:06.25`	`ckknight`	`but that gives me 115 seconds and $4.74`
`03:06.34`	`ckknight`	`whereas the optimal is actually 120 seconds and $4.78`
`03:06.43`	`cladhaire`	`and where does the difference come in?`
`03:06.50`	`Slayman`	`~/join math-and-cs-nerds`
`03:06.51`	`cladhaire`	`where's the discrepancy between hand and algo?`
`03:07.04`	`Slayman`	`s/math/#math/`
`03:07.12`	`ckknight`	`basically, 12 0.31 vs. 17 0.35`
`03:07.19`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: We can chat in the -dev channel`
`03:07.33`	`ckknight`	`17/0.35 is not as optimal by itself, but 12/0.31 gives a smaller total cost`
`03:07.35`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`03:07.47`	`cladhaire`	`hop over to dev.`
`03:07.49`	`ckknight`	`actually, I gotta go to the class this is required for now :-P`
`03:07.55`	`ckknight`	`sorry, will be back in like 4 hours`
`03:08.01`	`cladhaire`	`well do you have one second?`
`03:08.04`	`ckknight`	`k`
`03:08.05`	`kergoth`	`bah, not having much luck with the svk views.. my own fault for trying to actually use their bleeding edge svn, think i'll try one of the test releases instead`
`03:08.11`	`cladhaire`	`do you RUN 12 0.31 or 17 0.35 first?`
`03:08.43`	`ckknight`	`since 12/0.31 < 17/0.35, the 12 is checked first`
`03:10.27`	`eternally777`	`What's the difference between a frame's "strata", "layer", and "level"?`
`03:11.32`	`Plorkyeran`	`Nothing has both strata and layers, and they work in the same general way`
`03:11.36`	`PProvost`	`Not sure about layer, but strata is like groups of levels.`
`03:12.00`	`Plorkyeran`	`a frame's level is used for the z-order of overlapping frames of the same strata`
`03:12.01`	`PProvost`	`WIthin one strata you can move up and down levels but you will never change to another strata that way.`
`03:12.10`	`PProvost`	`Yeah, what he said.`
`03:12.38`	`Tain`	`Wow the president of Pakistan on The Daily Show.`
`03:12.48`	`Plorkyeran`	`Does CreateFrame trigger the frame's OnLoad?`
`03:13.03`	`*** join/#wowace AxiumKT (n=AxiumKT@n155s195.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net)`
`03:13.11`	`PProvost`	`woohoo! hosts file ftw! svn is up for me.`
`03:13.19`	`Tain`	`hahahah "also this is an American delicacy, it's called a Twinkie"`
`03:13.33`	`PProvost`	`now a quick batch for svn switch and I'm good to go...`
`03:13.39`	`PProvost`	`:)`
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`03:14.34`	`AxiumKT`	`gd bliz`
`03:14.47`	`AxiumKT`	`instance hearth bug is geart for raids`
`03:14.51`	`AxiumKT`	`great*`
`03:15.28`	`Tain`	`You know the President of Pakistan appearing on the Daily Show is amazing to me on a lot of levels. Not the least of which is, "Fuck CNN and Fox News."`
`03:15.37`	`Plorkyeran`	`At least you aren't falling through the world`
`03:16.02`	`AxiumKT`	`hearthing out of an instance that has no exit = gg`
`03:18.02`	vid`	`junk getting errors with bigwigs now with detox installed when i login`
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`03:18.40`	`dreyruugr`	`what kind of errors?`
`03:18.44`	vid`	`fubar plugin, wonder if its cause im not using fubar`
`03:19.02`	`Gngsk`	`update both?`
`03:19.05`	vid`	`yea`
`03:19.08`	vid`	`picked up 4 fps tho!`
`03:19.14`	vid`	`going from decursive to detox`
`03:19.15`	vid`	`hehe`
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`03:20.01`	`dreyruugr`	`that's fairly significant`
`03:20.04`	`dreyruugr`	`kind of scary`
`03:20.15`	`Baraius`	`just better...`
`03:20.27`	vid`	Error: Tablet-2.0: Bad argument #2 to `Refresh' (table or string expected, got nil)
`03:20.48`	vid`	`File: addons\BigWigs\Libs\FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lura`
`03:20.50`	vid`	`lua*`
`03:20.55`	vid`	`line 235`
`03:21.20`	`kb1ibt`	`is cladhaire the only one giving out access to the SVN or is Kaelten also?`
`03:21.29`	`cladhaire`	`I am`
`03:21.36`	`cladhaire`	`and if you asked for it, you will get it.`
`03:21.45`	`kb1ibt`	`cause that isn't on the rules wiki anymore`
`03:21.47`	`cladhaire`	`i shoudl be able to do them tomorrow..`
`03:21.58`	vid`	`yea now im curious to install oRA and fubar instead of ctraid/titan`
`03:22.00`	`cladhaire`	`okay, i'll make sure tekkub adds it.`
`03:22.02`	`*** join/#wowace Tem_ (n=tardmrr@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net)`
`03:22.02`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Tem_] by ChanServ`
`03:22.03`	vid`	`and see how many more FPS i pick up`
`03:22.11`	`cladhaire`	vid`: You dont need svn access to do that.
`03:22.33`	vid`	`what? i didnt ask :)`
`03:22.48`	vid`	`that was kb1ibt`
`03:23.19`	`cladhaire`	`oh, looked like you were responding to our conversation =)`
`03:23.21`	`cladhaire`	`sorry :P`
`03:23.23`	vid`	`hehe`
`03:23.27`	`Tain`	`I have access to your mom.`
`03:23.32`	`snurre`	`Tain: we all do`
`03:23.34`	vid`	`was just saying how i picked up 4 FPS going from decursive to Detox`
`03:23.43`	vid`	`and now i need to switch ctraid to ora and titan to fubar :P`
`03:23.50`	vid`	`maybe ill pickup another 5fps :P`
`03:25.01`	`cladhaire`	`kb1ibt: Thanks for the email =) 'I'll hit ya up tomorrow`
`03:25.40`	`PProvost`	`So... is 'svn switch' safe on the DNS change or should we do fresh checkouts?`
`03:25.59`	`kb1ibt`	`cladhaire, thanks`
`03:26.15`	`PProvost`	`From the rev numbers, it looks like it was a backup/restore so switch should work.`
`03:26.20`	`cladhaire`	`PProvost: you _should_ do fresh checkouts, but it shoud work`
`03:26.35`	`PProvost`	`Ok, fair enough. Just trying to avoid that many updates. :)`
`03:26.49`	`PProvost`	`Slightly different shell script, that's all.`
`03:26.52`	vid`	`does anyone know if the fubar modules try to load even if fubar isnt installed since its present in the libs folder?`
`03:26.59`	`PProvost`	`Anyone write one yet? :)`
`03:28.09`	`cladhaire`	`nope =)`
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`03:28.27`	`kb1ibt`	`if you don't have the fubar module loaded in the addons list then those extra modules (plugins) for it should be able to load unless they aren't properly setup to detected the absence of fubar`
`03:30.24`	vid`	`actually its tablet generating the error`
`03:32.24`	`kergoth`	`http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.svk.devel?set_lines=100000`
`03:32.42`	`kb1ibt`	`well if you download just the newest version of tablet and put it in the Addons folder it may solve the problem`
`03:34.37`	`Briadin`	`Hey Clad, on checking out stuff that's borked with the new server... is it ok to manually modify the files to fix things like "AceConsole-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/" (in !!!Libraries/Lib for example) or just wait for the devs to do fresh commits?`
`03:36.32`	`cladhaire`	`Briadin: You can fix stuff if youd like`
`03:36.41`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`03:36.54`	vid`	`nope didnt work /shrug`
`03:37.02`	vid`	`ill try to install fubar later`
`03:37.08`	vid`	`see if that fixes it`
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`03:39.51`	`Plorkyeran`	`with something along the lines of self:TriggerEvent('An_Event') self:DoStuff(), is it safe to assume that the event handlers will finish before DoStuff() happens?`
`03:40.00`	`Plorkyeran`	`Or are the events queued and processed later?`
`03:40.36`	`Briadin`	`Dagnabbit, I don't know if Clad responded to my question about some of the libs still being pointed at the old server since my connection went down, but if so could you repeat it? :-)`
`03:40.37`	`PProvost`	`Hmmm... I think I can write a script to fix all the externals...`
`03:40.58`	`PProvost`	`Just wrote a one liner to refresh all my addons to the new URL.`
`03:41.06`	`PProvost`	`Love shell scripting`
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`03:41.21`	`cladhaire`	`PProvost: YOu'd have to get the props of each root and lib directory, and then sed them but yeah you could`
`03:42.11`	`Briadin`	`If you've got a way to do it in Windows, out with it. (somehow I'm not hopeful though. Sheesh I have got to get off this platform)`
`03:42.50`	`Laric`	`what stops you from running bsash in windows?`
`03:42.56`	`Laric`	`gnuwin32 :P`
`03:43.16`	`Laric`	`s/bsash/bash/`
`03:43.22`	`Briadin`	`Dumb question, but anyone in here running WoW in Linux? And if so, is it going through Wine or somesuch? (performance/etc)`
`03:44.00`	`Karthun`	`absolute nightmare`
`03:44.24`	`Karthun`	`geting it to work in linux that is`
`03:44.31`	`haste`	`not really`
`03:44.41`	`haste`	`I've run it both under wine and cedega`
`03:44.54`	`haste`	`the only issue is test realm patches not working`
`03:45.42`	`Briadin`	`Ah but there's no Linux client then. Was thinking about plopping it onto my laptop, but it's a bit underpowered already. (1.4celeron w/integrated nvidia so-so video)`
`03:46.09`	`kb1ibt`	`i tried to run it on linux but i could never get it to properly recognize my drivers so it was slow`
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`03:47.08`	`Laric`	`haste what kinda gfx card do you use?`
`03:47.19`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`I do; worked better than it did in windows`
`03:47.26`	`yoss`	`oGfxCard`
`03:47.33`	`haste`	`I did use a Geforce 5900 before, currently 7900GT`
`03:47.42`	`kb1ibt`	`i used to about 10months ago but then i got a new graphics card and it all went down hill (but then again i was using a gforce mx200 and i upgarded to x800gt)`
`03:47.47`	`haste`	`ATi x300 before that or something :p`
`03:48.12`	`Laric`	`so 7900gt is working nice in linux and wine?`
`03:48.42`	`kb1ibt`	`haste, what distro?`
`03:48.47`	`haste`	`kb1ibt: gentoo`
`03:49.10`	`haste`	`Laric: I can only compare it towards windows for the Ati card, and with it I got better performance under Linux`
`03:49.19`	`haste`	`that's versus win2k`
`03:49.28`	`Xuerian`	`ATI just sucks monkeynuts, whatever OS you're using =\|`
`03:49.31`	`kb1ibt`	`lol that's what i had but it must not like ati then since it was slow as molases, i lost 20-30 fps`
`03:49.35`	`PProvost`	`Looks like a lot of the externals are fixed... or is there a redirect on the old URLs?`
`03:49.54`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`works better in linux with nvidia too`
`03:50.02`	`Xuerian`	`my 200$ nv card from three years ago outperforms my 200$ ati from 1.5 years ago`
`03:50.07`	`Xuerian`	`>_>`
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`03:50.15`	`Xuerian`	`Well, it would, if it wasn't playing rainbow with my screen`
`03:50.30`	`kb1ibt`	`or i should say i gained 20 fps switching to windows from linux`
`03:50.36`	`haste`	`Xuerian: that just sounds wrong`
`03:50.52`	`haste`	`the problem with ati under linux wasn't really the fps, it was the stability and quality later on the drivers`
`03:50.58`	`Xuerian`	`haste: I'm glad I'm not the only one that can see perversion in that. Or am I ... >_>`
`03:51.09`	`PProvost`	`You guys probably won't believe this, but I got 10fps switching from Windows XP to Windows Vista RC1. :)`
`03:51.12`	`Briadin`	`PProvost: Check !!!Libraries (Thinking about trying the non-externals approach. Too many darned ACE2 addons loading, zoning takes forever)`
`03:51.16`	`Xuerian`	`Quality of the drivers for windows is just as bad =\`
`03:51.33`	`Xuerian`	`I believe it, PProvost.`
`03:51.50`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`nice, they're catching up to wine`
`03:51.50`	`haste`	`Xuerian: You don't get hard lockups that forces you to restart under Windows :p`
`03:52.04`	`Xuerian`	`haste: Wanna bet?`
`03:52.11`	`haste`	`I at least didn't :p`
`03:52.35`	`Xuerian`	`My baby can do anything. <pats his ol' compaq>... Anything you dont' want it to, that is`
`03:52.39`	`haste`	`but I haven't used the Ati windows drivers ine like 1.5 year :p`
`03:52.52`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`how do you get a hard lock with wine? O_o`
`03:53.04`	`haste`	`sedatedChipmunk: X lockups, nothing with wine to do`
`03:53.04`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`oh with the vid drivers`
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`03:53.20`	`PProvost`	`I wanna see WoW running on the side of an XGL cube. :)`
`03:53.35`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`well that's why you keep an SSH daemon running =)`
`03:53.52`	`haste`	`PProvost: doesn't opengl still crash under XGL?`
`03:54.07`	`PProvost`	`No idea. I'm the one on Windows Vista. :D`
`03:54.10`	`haste`	`I'm not sure how it works if you start a X server on the side tho'`
`03:54.30`	`Xuerian`	`Dangit PProvost =(... I want enough free space to install it ._.`
`03:54.31`	`haste`	`sedatedChipmunk: doesn't help against the ATi lockups`
`03:54.49`	`PProvost`	`Just repaved last week and switched to Vista + Office 12B2TR`
`03:54.56`	`Xuerian`	`Oh. Also. Boondock Saints is a awesome movie.`
`03:55.04`	`kb1ibt`	`PProvost, i had vista but i tried updating my graphics card drivers and now it kernel panics`
`03:55.13`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`night froods`
`03:55.22`	`PProvost`	`Ouch`
`03:55.24`	`*** topic/#wowace by cladhaire -> http://www.wowace.com \| http://ace.pastey.net \| http://www.lua.org/pil \| http://www.wowace.com/flyspray \| We've tried to update the DNS information again. You should begin seeing the website at http://www.wowace.com/ soon. \| http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN`
`03:55.27`	`haste`	`vista kernel panics :p ?`
`03:55.40`	`kb1ibt`	`BSOD w/e`
`03:55.44`	`PProvost`	`cladhaire, you might wanna put the hosts info in there for people who want it.`
`03:55.45`	`haste`	`ah`
`03:55.55`	`cladhaire`	`PProvost: People who want it will be able to get it.`
`03:56.00`	`PProvost`	`coolio`
`03:56.10`	`Xuerian`	`Woo: www.wowace.com === cache.revenueredirect.com/mydomain.revenueredirect.com/park.php XD`
`03:56.18`	`cladhaire`	`I dont want everyone hacking their hosts file .. we'll never know whats going on with the DNS`
`03:56.33`	`cladhaire`	`Xuerian: What you shoudl see is a single A record for wowace.com, then CNames for www, svn and files`
`03:56.38`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`as of now...`
`03:56.39`	`cladhaire`	`if anyone's counting =)`
`03:56.41`	`cladhaire`	`ok.. bedtime.`
`03:57.01`	`Neebler`	`http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/ so long as that website is up. I'm fine :P`
`03:57.04`	`Xuerian`	`cladhaire: Nah, I was just typing out the urls of the images since it retains the domain name on the park page`
`03:57.08`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`clad\|sleep: http://69.14.77.214/wowace2.png`
`03:57.12`	`clad\|sleep`	`Neebler: Its not mirroring anymore.`
`03:57.38`	`clad\|sleep`	`Neebler: Read the wiki page linked in the topic to get to the most recent zipfiles.`
`03:58.00`	`Xuerian`	`G'night Clad :P`
`04:03.33`	`PProvost`	`I dunno if any of you scripters have played with Windows Powershell, but it is damn cool. I just re-checked out all my Addons from the new URL using this:`
`04:03.35`	`PProvost`	`ls \| ? { test-path "$_\.svn" } \| % { $tmp = $_.Name; rm -recurse -force $_; svn co "http://www.wowace.com/svn/wowace/trunk/$tmp" }`
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`04:04.27`	`Silv`	`whats svn and www supposed to resolve to?`
`04:04.46`	`haste`	`65.98.61.58 I think`
`04:05.14`	`Silv`	`thanks`
`04:06.06`	`Silv`	`hrm i still get the mydomain page`
`04:06.18`	`PProvost`	`You put that in your hosts file?`
`04:06.36`	`Silv`	`aye`
`04:06.41`	`PProvost`	`There is no svn.wowace.com any more`
`04:06.52`	`PProvost`	`It is now www.wowace.com/svn/wowace/trunk`
`04:07.07`	`PProvost`	`Silv, on Windows or *nix?`
`04:07.17`	`Silv`	`windows atm but i can try from my shell`
`04:07.23`	`PProvost`	`You need to flush DNS`
`04:07.24`	`PProvost`	`DO this...`
`04:07.28`	`PProvost`	`nbtstat -R`
`04:07.31`	`Silv`	`i did flush it`
`04:07.34`	`PProvost`	`(capital R -- it matters)`
`04:07.37`	`PProvost`	`ok`
`04:07.38`	`Silv`	`aye`
`04:07.41`	`PProvost`	`Hmmm`
`04:07.46`	`PProvost`	`ping gives the right address?`
`04:07.56`	`Silv`	`yep it does`
`04:07.57`	`PProvost`	`Using IE?`
`04:08.03`	`Silv`	`firefox`
`04:08.09`	`Silv`	`tried with IE, though`
`04:08.11`	`PProvost`	`Hmmm... restart all instances?`
`04:09.05`	`Silv`	`hrm used ccleaner to dump my cache and it finally picked up the new page`
`04:09.06`	`Silv`	`win`
`04:09.12`	`Silv`	`or appears to be`
`04:09.25`	`Silv`	`thank you sir`
`04:14.35`	`kb1ibt`	`for me it hasn't picked up the new dns`
`04:15.02`	`PProvost`	`Me too, but hosts file solved it`
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`04:26.11`	`DrDre`	`i dunno if mine has or not cuz i got it in HOSTS and im too lazy to go remove it`
`04:26.56`	`DrDre`	`doing class projects 3hrs before its due ftw`
`04:27.26`	`DrDre`	`i actually turned it in like 5 mins late >_> was due at 11:45pm lol`
`04:27.40`	`DrDre`	`(online class)`
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`04:38.07`	`mstrchief`	`somethings wrong with aces site?`
`04:39.01`	`XLVII`	`We've tried to update the DNS information again. You should begin seeing the website at http://www.wowace.com/ soon..`
`04:39.15`	`gnorlish`	`WHY CAN'T I GO TO WOWACE.COM`
`04:39.20`	`XLVII`	`We've tried to update the DNS information again. You should begin seeing the website at http://www.wowace.com/ soon.`
`04:39.27`	`gnorlish`	`./PANIC`
`04:39.29`	`gnorlish`	`./FLEE`
`04:39.48`	`XLVII`	`gnorlish, read what i said just before`
`04:42.33`	`kergoth`	`XLVII: some people have trouble with the whole "reading" thing, i wouldnt let it get to you`
`04:43.05`	`gnorlish`	`someone hold my hand please`
`04:43.07`	`Neebler`	`I'm illiterate`
`04:43.13`	`gnorlish`	`i feel lonely`
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`04:43.43`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
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`04:45.27`	`Flam`	`Hello all`
`04:45.59`	`Flam`	`Was wondering where the website disappeared to, but the topic kinda explains it I guess`
`04:46.53`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`dont worry`
`04:47.04`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`somone said We've tried to update the DNS information again. You should begin seeing the website at http://www.wowace.com/ soon..`
`04:48.45`	`PProvost`	`~DNS`
`04:49.06`	`*** join/#wowace ceph (n=werd@207.58.184.18)`
`04:49.06`	`yoss`	`so I should spam the refresh button?`
`04:49.14`	`Flam`	`hehe, I guess not :P`
`04:49.19`	`PProvost`	`Just wait`
`04:49.48`	`Flam`	`if it's just some dns issue, can't you give us the IP? ^_^`
`04:50.18`	`PProvost`	`Sure, but you will have to use a hosts file since it is a vhost on that server. Direct IP won't work.`
`04:50.37`	`Flam`	`sure`
`04:50.59`	`PProvost`	`65.98.61.58 www.wowace.com`
`04:50.59`	`kergoth`	`problem is if you do a lookup on wowace.com, its returning 8 A entries`
`04:51.03`	`kergoth`	`7 of which arent correct`
`04:51.10`	`PProvost`	`Set that in your hosts file and you'll be fine.`
`04:51.10`	`kergoth`	`so you've got a 1 in 8 shot at it working`
`04:51.15`	`PProvost`	`Just kill it tomorrow.`
`04:51.29`	`PProvost`	`I've been using it for a few hours now.`
`04:51.37`	`PProvost`	`With a hosts file.`
`04:52.35`	`Flam`	`working, thanks`
`04:53.04`	`Silv`	`SCT broken on new SVN`
`04:53.07`	`Silv`	`:(`
`04:53.19`	`Silv`	`tries to pull externals from old svn`
`04:53.39`	`PProvost`	`Lots of broken externals. Not all fixed yet.`
`04:53.44`	`sergio`	`if I change the cthun mod in bigwigs and announce`
`04:53.51`	`sergio`	`will it work for the whole raid`
`04:53.57`	`sergio`	`or does everyone need to take those 12 seconds off`
`04:59.26`	`kergoth`	`new server isnt exactly speedy, is it`
`04:59.30`	`kergoth`	`forum is slow as hell`
`04:59.39`	`haste`	`I should fix my gnome 2.16 now`
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`05:07.02`	`PProvost`	`~seen Wobin`
`05:07.04`	`purl`	`wobin is currently on #wowi-lounge (6h 36m 48s) #wowace (6h 36m 48s). Has said a total of 13 messages. Is idling for 6h 22m 16s, last said: '=( =('.`
`05:09.59`	`Neebler`	`oh neat. I just realized I don't need /sea/ anymore`
`05:10.53`	`Neebler`	`or chronos`
`05:11.27`	`PProvost`	`I just fixed the broken externals on MrPlow. About to checkin unless anyone has objections.`
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`05:13.15`	`CIA-11`	`03pprovost * r12100 10MrPlow/: MrPlow: Updated broken externals`
`05:13.32`	`Neebler`	`are the oRA directorys on the SVN for ORA1 or 2?`
`05:13.43`	`Neebler`	`like oRA_Item and _Maintank`
`05:14.13`	`Neebler`	`oh they're for 1`
`05:14.52`	`kergoth`	`clad\|sleep: what do you think of altering your wdbparser to be two phase? first phase acts as a caching mechanism. it reads the wdb data into a local sqlite3 database, updating it when the wdb data changes (md5sum). the second phase uses sql queries to get data you request from the databases. should avoid the need to fully read the 6 meg or whatever wdb into ram to get at item data for users of it`
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`05:15.34`	`kergoth`	`clad\|sleep: unless i'm missing something, and the wdb has an index to avoid that necessity already`
`05:20.35`	`dreyruugr`	`Who wrote AceModuleCore?`
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`05:29.34`	`kb1ibt`	`~seen kb1ibt`
`05:29.40`	`purl`	`kb1ibt is currently on #wowace (3h 6m 7s). Has said a total of 28 messages. Is idling for 6s, last said: '~seen kb1ibt'.`
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`05:30.10`	`MiNu3`	`anyone using pubcrawl have a second to try and help me?`
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`05:33.50`	`CIA-11`	`03pprovost * r12101 10Bartender2_Pagemaster/Libs/: Bartender2_Pagemaster: Added missing Libs folder remotely.`
`05:34.44`	`DrDre`	`your hot`
`05:34.57`	`DrDre`	`did anyone see me say purl?`
`05:35.57`	`Gngsk`	`were you making a sexual advance toward a non-living entity?`
`05:36.14`	`CIA-11`	`03xuerian * r12102 10XLoot/ (. XLoot.lua XLoot.toc localization.enUS.lua):`
`05:36.14`	`CIA-11`	`XLoot: Aside from fixing mangled externals...`
`05:36.14`	`CIA-11`	`Split options into another file.`
`05:36.14`	`CIA-11`	`Modified globals access methods.`
`05:36.14`	`CIA-11`	`Modified 5.1 compliance routines.`
`05:36.14`	`CIA-11`	`Optimized handling of original lootframe.`
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`05:36.37`	`DrDre`	`wanted to see what he would say :p`
`05:36.51`	`DrDre`	`is there a fubar plugin for aguf?`
`05:37.05`	`kergoth`	`why would you need a fubar plugin for a unitframe?`
`05:37.11`	`DrDre`	`considering aguf options opens a drop down... kinda seems like its meant to be ;/`
`05:37.12`	`kergoth`	`it has menus for configuration already`
`05:37.13`	`CIA-11`	`03xuerian * r12103 10XLoot/XLootOptions.lua: XLoot: Bastard lingering file <SLAP> GET ON THE SVN NOW, DAMMIT.`
`05:37.14`	`kergoth`	`its pointless`
`05:37.27`	`DrDre`	`whats meant to open it besides typing command?`
`05:37.33`	`kergoth`	`?`
`05:37.33`	`MiNu3`	`any warriors using pubcrawl? when i swithc to beserker stance it won't let me put any attacks into the action bars`
`05:37.42`	`kergoth`	`first of all, you can ctrl right click on a frame to configure it`
`05:37.45`	`DrDre`	`typing /aguf config opens a drop down options`
`05:37.49`	`kergoth`	`second, you dont need fubar to use a dropdown`
`05:38.00`	`DrDre`	`oh, i didnt know bout control right click`
`05:38.12`	`[Ammo]`	`I hate my slow DNS servers meh`
`05:38.13`	`kergoth`	`third, a fubar plugin just for configuration is pointless and unnecessary imho, wasting space on a perfectly good bar for a one time operation`
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`05:38.15`	`Flam`	`It's actually alt, right lcick >_<`
`05:38.24`	`kergoth`	`Flam: thanks, wasnt sure :)`
`05:38.27`	`kergoth`	`my memory sucks`
`05:38.38`	`Flam`	`you're welcome`
`05:38.40`	`Xuerian`	`Actually, it's any click you don't either A: Have configured in a click-casting addon and B: isn't used by the default interface`
`05:38.51`	`DrDre`	`i meant, it seemed weird to have /aguf options to open a menu and i didnt know a way to open otherwise :P i figured it was meant to be called in another method`
`05:38.54`	`MiNu3`	`anyone know a good acitonbar addon besdies bartender then?`
`05:39.06`	`DrDre`	`and for options menus, i attach them to the right without text so its just can icon`
`05:39.09`	`DrDre`	`on fubar`
`05:39.18`	`DrDre`	`ie ora2/bartender2/bigwigs menus`
`05:39.25`	`kergoth`	`just use deucecommander and call it a day`
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`05:39.31`	`Xuerian`	`DrDre: There are two types of menus for AGUF. One is sensitive to the context of the options (Per frame, which would be the alt-rightclicking one), and the global options one (The /aguf options one)`
`05:39.49`	`Neebler`	`Does WoW load savedvariable .lua's even if the addon is disabled vis the addons menu at character selection?`
`05:39.57`	`Neebler`	`s/vis/via`
`05:40.08`	`kergoth`	`nope`
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`05:43.45`	`PProvost`	`Neebler, in fact, I think load-on-demand addons don't load their SV until they are loaded.`
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`05:44.57`	`Mikma`	`<0507> <CIA-11> cladhaire * r12099 PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.toc: PerfectRaid: Hey asshole.. when you rename a file.. make sure you load it in the .toc`
`05:45.01`	`Mikma`	`best commit... ever!`
`05:45.43`	`CIA-11`	`03pprovost * r12104 10Bartender2_Pagemaster/Libs/: Bartender_Pagemaster: Updated broken externals in Libs folder.`
`05:46.02`	`PProvost`	`Nice one Mikma`
`05:46.10`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: assclown, do not add the folder in`
`05:46.20`	`Mikma`	`it's not needed since svn creates it automatically`
`05:46.41`	`ggilbert_`	`kergoth: err thanks for the ctrl right click tip on aquf. That's annoyed me terribly :p`
`05:46.46`	`Mikma`	`(unless it's completely fucked up and you are planning on taking the folder out too)`
`05:47.12`	`PProvost`	`What are you talking about?`
`05:47.15`	`[Ammo]`	`or you could type: /aguf config`
`05:47.20`	`Mikma`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:47.37`	`PProvost`	`It was fucked up. PROPGET was failing even though the folder was there.`
`05:47.40`	`Mikma`	`<CIA-11> pprovost * r12101 Bartender2_Pagemaster/Libs/: Bartender2_Pagemaster: Added missing Libs folder remotely.`
`05:47.48`	`PProvost`	`Totally hosed, so I recreated it to get it reset.`
`05:47.54`	`ggilbert_`	`[Ammo]: I knew that, but it was a a bit of a pain to type every time I wanted to tweak something.`
`05:48.06`	`ggilbert_`	`which isn't very often now that I have it set up`
`05:48.10`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: umh, did you try checkouting it to a fresh folder?`
`05:48.21`	`PProvost`	`Yes. I'm not a newb to SVN.`
`05:48.38`	`PProvost`	`Dump. Checkout. Failed on propget even though the folder was there.`
`05:48.49`	`PProvost`	`svn info Libs failed but the folder was there`
`05:48.50`	`PProvost`	`Etc.`
`05:48.54`	`PProvost`	`So fuck it, I recreated it`
`05:49.27`	`Mikma`	`what's svn address`
`05:49.40`	`PProvost`	`www.wowace.com/svn/wowace/trunk`
`05:49.44`	`PProvost`	`But you may have DNS issues`
`05:49.50`	`PProvost`	`And need a hosts entry`
`05:51.03`	`Mikma`	`Fetching external item into 'Bartender2_Pagemaster@12100/Libs/Babble-Spell-2.0'`
`05:51.03`	`Mikma`	`svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/root/trunk/BabbleLib/Babble-Spell-2.0'`
`05:51.03`	`Mikma`	`svn: PROPFIND of '/root/trunk/BabbleLib/Babble-Spell-2.0': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://svn.wowace.com)`
`05:51.09`	`Mikma`	`this happens to me with 12100 rev`
`05:51.44`	`MiNu3`	`http://65.98.61.58/svn/wowace/trunk`
`05:51.50`	`PProvost`	`12104 is current. SHould work better.`
`05:52.40`	`Mikma`	`it named the folder Bartender2_Pagemaster@12100 :D`
`05:52.42`	`PProvost`	`Dammit. It is still fucked up.`
`05:52.51`	`Mikma`	`how about...`
`05:53.06`	`Mikma`	`you delete the whole folder, and reupload everything without the Libs. then set the externals`
`05:53.18`	`PProvost`	`Yeah. That is about where I'm at.`
`05:53.22`	`Mikma`	`Libs/Babble-Spell-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/BabbleLib/Babble-Spell-2.0/`
`05:53.26`	`Mikma`	`this is in externals`
`05:53.32`	`Mikma`	`atleast in 12100`
`05:53.43`	`PProvost`	`That isn't what I set. Shit is weird in there.`
`05:53.47`	`Mikma`	`:D`
`05:53.54`	`PProvost`	`I'll kill it and put it back fresh.`
`05:53.57`	`Mikma`	`notice it's rev 12100`
`05:54.12`	`PProvost`	`I just did a fresh pull at HEAD. Samey same`
`05:54.12`	`Mikma`	`now i tested latest and same error`
`05:54.31`	`DrDre`	`im getting password box for the svn folder :(`
`05:54.42`	`PProvost`	`You need to reauthenticate because it is a new URL`
`05:54.53`	`DrDre`	`reauth with what user/pass? lol`
`05:54.57`	`PProvost`	`Yours`
`05:55.00`	`PProvost`	`:)`
`05:55.25`	`DrDre`	`if i had SVN access that would be doable :p`
`05:55.35`	`PProvost`	`Ummm... so you are asking what?`
`05:55.50`	`DrDre`	`to get latest releases andstuff`
`05:55.56`	`DrDre`	`arnt they being zipped there now?`
`05:56.54`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: Committed revision 12105.`
`05:56.56`	`PProvost`	`Probably not. I think they are down during this period.`
`05:57.01`	`Mikma`	`try that one and tell me what happens`
`05:57.04`	`PProvost`	`You did it? I was about to. :P`
`05:57.18`	`Mikma`	`yeah i did it :D`
`05:57.36`	`CIA-11`	`03mikma * r12105 10Bartender2_Pagemaster/ (. Libs/): Bartender2_Pagemaster: externals`
`05:58.28`	`Mikma`	`works for me now`
`05:58.39`	`PProvost`	`Pulling clean now...`
`05:59.06`	`Mikma`	`yeah same here. the svn doesn't have now the folder Libs in it and externals are coming correctly`
`05:59.17`	`Mikma`	`slowly, but still coming :)`
`06:00.02`	`PProvost`	`Yeah, the new servers aren't the fastest thing I've seen...`
`06:00.56`	`[Ammo]`	`it's being hammered I think`
`06:01.03`	`[Ammo]`	`clad said something about 33k users yesterday?`
`06:01.08`	`Xuerian`	`Apparently we're getting more ram soon?`
`06:01.24`	`Mikma`	`zomg`
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`06:02.23`	`PProvost`	`Looks good Mikma. Moving on to the next one...`
`06:03.07`	`Cartas`	`Hmm`
`06:03.13`	`Cartas`	`X-Chat takes more memory than mIRC, yet has less features.`
`06:03.36`	`PProvost`	`I've tried mIRC two or three times and keep coming back to xchat`
`06:03.47`	`PProvost`	`I'm not all that impressed with any of them at this point...`
`06:03.55`	`Cartas`	`Mm`
`06:03.57`	`Cartas`	`We should make our own!`
`06:04.02`	`PProvost`	`In LUA!`
`06:04.09`	`PProvost`	`:D`
`06:04.09`	`Cartas`	`And it can run in-game! :O`
`06:04.14`	`Cartas`	`... right? :o`
`06:04.19`	`Xuerian`	`....`
`06:04.22`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`06:04.24`	`PProvost`	`I've been wanting in game IRC for a while. No dice on that front. :D`
`06:04.50`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: i'm just recheckouting all just to see do they work :)`
`06:04.57`	`Mikma`	`mikma@ydin:~/public_html/wow$ ./bt2.sh`
`06:04.57`	`Mikma`	`Bartender2 does not exist, getting it from http://www.wowace.com/svn/wowace/trunk/Bartender2`
`06:05.02`	`PProvost`	`Mikma, that'`
`06:05.02`	`Mikma`	`i love my script <3`
`06:05.11`	`Cartas`	`What's wrong with you, Xuerian? :p`
`06:05.17`	`PProvost`	`that's what I did and now I'm working my wau through the bad ones.`
`06:05.44`	`Xuerian`	`s/tall conical/tall, white conical/`
`06:05.46`	`Xuerian`	`>_>`
`06:05.57`	`PProvost`	`Mikma, Bartender2 came just fine for me from http://www.wowace.com/svn/wowace/trunk/Bartender2`
`06:06.09`	`Cartas`	`?/what what/what, what what/`
`06:06.20`	`Xuerian`	`dunce hat.`
`06:06.22`	`Xuerian`	`not wizard hat.`
`06:06.24`	`Cartas`	`I know.`
`06:06.26`	`Cartas`	`But why?`
`06:06.32`	`Xuerian`	`i really don't know`
`06:06.36`	`Xuerian`	`spur of the moment duncing :)`
`06:06.38`	`Mikma`	`<\|:E`
`06:06.38`	`Cartas`	`:'(`
`06:06.44`	`Xuerian`	`XE`
`06:06.46`	`Mikma`	`teethless witch`
`06:06.59`	`Xuerian`	`typo'd XD.`
`06:07.05`	`Cartas`	`It's a man with a comb-looking moustache.`
`06:07.25`	`DrDre`	`ok this happens every once in a while, how do you fix/stopfrom happening where minimap 'dies' goes black and buttons not clickable around it like the frame jus poofed with the buttons with it`
`06:07.41`	`DrDre`	`reloading ui fixes it but i want to stop it/fix it with command`
`06:07.46`	`Xuerian`	`I've noticed my old squeenix doesn't like being in instances.`
`06:07.54`	`PProvost`	`Mikma, what does your script do? Clean pull the whole thing or something more fancy?`
`06:07.56`	`DrDre`	`im not using that, jus simpleminimap ;x`
`06:07.57`	`Xuerian`	`Ooh sweet, my custom minimap button rings worked.`
`06:08.23`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: http://wow.reaktio.net/bt2.sh`
`06:08.37`	`oxman`	`:)`
`06:09.07`	`Mikma`	`Xuerian: ss or it didn't happen`
`06:09.13`	`Xuerian`	`Sure =D`
`06:10.46`	`Mikma`	`holy mother svn is slow :(`
`06:10.49`	`PProvost`	`Mikma, gonna kill Pagemaster_Druidbar?`
`06:11.00`	`Mikma`	`still haven't checkouted the bt2 :O`
`06:11.04`	`PProvost`	`hehe`
`06:11.09`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: not sure, need permission from gray*`
`06:11.13`	`PProvost`	`Right.`
`06:11.30`	`Mikma`	`would make us look bad if we would just nuke it`
`06:11.41`	`Mikma`	`eventho it sucks and pagemaster is better now`
`06:11.43`	`Mikma`	`lol`
`06:12.34`	`PProvost`	`I think Grey won't mind. He posted in the thread. But check with him first for sure.`
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`06:15.01`	`Mikma`	`Zipping Bartender2-r12095.zip`
`06:15.03`	`Mikma`	`yay!`
`06:16.38`	`Mikma`	`bindingswap ok`
`06:17.01`	`Mikma`	`svn: URL 'http://www.wowace.com/svn/wowace/root/Bartender2_Circled' doesn't exist`
`06:17.10`	`Mikma`	`lol good me!`
`06:17.20`	`Xuerian`	`http://xuerian.net/ithappened.jpg`
`06:17.28`	`PProvost`	`Mikma s/root/trunk/`
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`06:17.41`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: ok here's a stupid question. what's the url for forums? :D`
`06:17.50`	`PProvost`	`www.wowace.com/forums`
`06:17.58`	`oxman`	`superinspect count enchant ?`
`06:18.08`	`Mikma`	`Xuerian: kinky`
`06:18.16`	`Xuerian`	`:P`
`06:18.19`	`PProvost`	`But it seems to be down again. :(`
`06:18.39`	`PProvost`	`Hold... maybe not...`
`06:18.45`	`PProvost`	`It is there... just slow`
`06:18.47`	`Mikma`	`slow`
`06:19.46`	`dreyruugr`	`Xuerian: What's up with that screenshot?`
`06:20.00`	`Mikma`	`dreyruugr: minimap iconborders changed`
`06:20.12`	`dreyruugr`	`But why is the center button in the wrong place?`
`06:20.14`	`Mikma`	`aaand, possibly the one in Sprocket`
`06:20.32`	`dreyruugr`	`unless that's the item buton`
`06:20.37`	`dreyruugr`	`er floating button`
`06:21.11`	`Neebler`	`dreyruugr: did you get my PM the other day on irc?`
`06:21.24`	`dreyruugr`	`Neebler: not sure, what was it regarding?`
`06:21.40`	`dreyruugr`	`Wait, was that the goat thing?`
`06:21.47`	`Mikma`	`baaaa-aa`
`06:21.48`	`Neebler`	`hahah. no`
`06:21.48`	`PProvost`	`Sorry... I can't resist...`
`06:21.58`	`PProvost`	`Why is Barenaked Ladies playing? :D`
`06:22.03`	`dreyruugr`	`Ok cool, cause I really don't want those pics`
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`06:22.09`	`PProvost`	`(sorry)`
`06:22.29`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: explain`
`06:22.51`	`PProvost`	`Xuerian's screenshot.`
`06:22.54`	`Neebler`	`it was a silly suggestion regarding making sprocket more visually appeling by turning the middle icon depending on where the mouse is pointing. So it looks like a sprocket turning`
`06:23.44`	`PProvost`	`Allow me to explain... in my peer group, a few people like Barenaked Ladies and the rest take great delight in hassling them for it. I couldn't help myself when I saw that on his SS.`
`06:24.10`	`PProvost`	`I actually like them... just couldn't resist. Sorry. Back to your regularly scheduled program.`
`06:24.11`	`dreyruugr`	`ohh`
`06:24.13`	`Mikma`	`so it's some band then, propably, maybe`
`06:24.19`	`dreyruugr`	`Neebler: nope, didn't see that`
`06:24.21`	`PProvost`	`lol`
`06:24.30`	`dreyruugr`	`it's quite doable though`
`06:24.34`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: "Back to your regularly scheduled program." <- aren't we doing that already by fooling around? :D`
`06:24.41`	`Neebler`	`:D`
`06:24.43`	`dreyruugr`	`I think I already have a rotation func i'm not using`
`06:24.45`	`PProvost`	`Yeah. My realm still isn't up`
`06:25.09`	`Mikma`	`umh?`
`06:25.28`	`PProvost`	`Hardware upgrade today. :(`
`06:25.30`	`Mikma`	`you know that they shouldn't come up before 11:00ST ?`
`06:25.41`	`PProvost`	`Down for 24 hours for a dozen realms`
`06:27.04`	`PProvost`	`Xuerian, what IRC client is that?`
`06:27.39`	`Neebler`	`wowza. I just disabled all of my discord addons and went from 40mb of UI memory to 21mb`
`06:27.45`	`PProvost`	`lol`
`06:28.39`	`Neebler`	`but I think I'm going to use discord UI builder when it comes out. I'm a huge fan of the extreme customizability and scripting of discord addons`
`06:28.41`	`DrDre`	`Xuerian why you still have fixloadingtimes? lol`
`06:28.52`	`Neebler`	`UI memory isn't that big of an issue being on a decent PC`
`06:29.07`	`Mikma`	`DrDre: it still helps to reduce the loadingtimes`
`06:29.57`	`DrDre`	`thought blizz fixed it? every page bout those addons say they are useless now lol`
`06:30.14`	`Mikma`	`they tried to fix it, ie. Catalyst still does it better.`
`06:30.30`	`deci`	`which of those two is better?`
`06:30.38`	`Cartas`	`Catalyst > ntmysFixLoadingTimes, right? :O`
`06:30.52`	`Mikma`	`Catalyst > all`
`06:31.01`	`DrDre`	`guess ill get catalyst then`
`06:31.33`	`Cartas`	`PProvost: It looks like HydraIRC`
`06:31.48`	`Cartas`	`Well, it says 'Hydr' at the top at least :P`
`06:32.24`	`oxman`	`priest wear cloth armor`
`06:32.29`	`oxman`	`rogue wear ... armor ?`
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`06:32.35`	`oxman`	`in french its "cuir" and in english ?`
`06:32.38`	`Mikma`	`oxman: yes`
`06:32.39`	`Cartas`	`Cloth/Leather armour :O`
`06:32.45`	`Mikma`	`leder`
`06:32.47`	`oxman`	`leather thank :)`
`06:32.50`	`Mikma`	`lederhosen`
`06:33.00`	`oxman`	`its for an option in besttarget`
`06:33.08`	`oxman`	`"light armor (cloth + leather)"`
`06:33.09`	`oxman`	`;)`
`06:33.12`	`Mikma`	`best leather?`
`06:33.14`	`Cartas`	`Mikma: Why does it say on Catalyst: There is no point in running Catalyst after 1.11 goes live.`
`06:33.23`	`Cartas`	`If there still is a use to it? :o`
`06:33.27`	`DrDre`	`yea lol`
`06:33.56`	`Mikma`	`Cartas: because it still helps but they don't wan't people to use it so the catalyst users would beat them in loadingtimes`
`06:34.01`	`Mikma`	`ofc, assclowsn`
`06:34.03`	`Cartas`	`Hahaha`
`06:34.23`	`Cartas`	`The quicker they load, the sooner they can get to fixing their Bartender2 which has reset, right? ;)`
`06:34.42`	`Mikma`	`use mac, it won't reset bt2`
`06:34.44`	`oxman`	`options are : party, raid, odd, even, priest, druid, shaman, paladin, warrior, rogue, mage, hunter, warlock, melee, light armor (cloth + leather), rangeddps, melee, healer, maintank. Do you know a missing option ? :)`
`06:34.52`	`Cartas`	`Macs FTL`
`06:34.53`	`Mikma`	`it's my anti-pc code which pokes you in the pancreas`
`06:35.10`	`PProvost`	`Cartas, interesting. Installing HydraIRC now.`
`06:35.19`	`Cartas`	`Tell me if it's good!`
`06:36.22`	`PProvost`	`Switching to try now... brb`
`06:37.50`	`Mikma`	`quick! ban him!`
`06:38.02`	`Cartas`	`I CAN'T!`
`06:38.03`	`Cartas`	`Nooo`
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`06:39.25`	`Xuerian`	`Ok, ok one thing at a time`
`06:40.00`	`Xuerian`	`dreyruugr: Yes, that's teh floating icon with the border I designed. Those are the sprocket borders I designed. YES barenaked ladies is playing, I find a perverse pleasure in listening to Chimps when it's late and I'm half awake, and YES that is HydraIRC`
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`06:40.27`	`deci`	`does the !trunk command still work?`
`06:40.28`	`*** join/#wowace PProvost (n=PProvost@pool-71-112-41-131.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net)`
`06:40.37`	`deci`	`im gonna replace my actionbars and unitframes now`
`06:40.39`	`deci`	`need links!`
`06:40.41`	`Xuerian`	`figures, PProvost, you leave when I answer =O`
`06:40.49`	`Xuerian`	`deci: www.wowace.com/files`
`06:40.56`	`deci`	`wewt`
`06:41.05`	`DrDre`	`bartender2 and ag_unitframes`
`06:41.13`	`PProvost`	`Xuerian, what was the answer?`
`06:41.24`	`Cartas`	`"It's HydraIRC"`
`06:41.25`	`Xuerian`	`Yes, that's teh floating icon with the border I designed. Those are the sprocket borders I designed. YES barenaked ladies is playing, I find a perverse pleasure in listening to Chimps when it's late and I'm half awake, and YES that is HydraIRC`
`06:41.26`	`Xuerian`	`:P`
`06:41.51`	`PProvost`	`I just logged over to Hydra. Very interesting.`
`06:42.03`	`deci`	`am i get bt2 or bongos!`
`06:42.07`	`deci`	`getting~*`
`06:42.09`	`Cartas`	`Any good, PProvost?`
`06:42.15`	`Cartas`	`Or, haven't you quite got it all set up yet? :P`
`06:42.20`	`PProvost`	`Very interesting. Lots of on screen info.`
`06:42.23`	`PProvost`	`O`
`06:42.28`	`Xuerian`	`lol.`
`06:42.29`	`PProvost`	`I'll try it for a while and see.`
`06:42.31`	`Xuerian`	`Hide some of it :P`
`06:42.39`	`PProvost`	`Trying to decide what to hide.`
`06:43.01`	`PProvost`	`Xuerian, can I make it highlight tells that say my name (or any other keyword I want)??`
`06:43.06`	`Xuerian`	`yep`
`06:43.16`	`Cartas`	`PProvost!`
`06:43.17`	`Xuerian`	`Options -> Prefs -> Notifications`
`06:44.10`	`Cartas`	`There's a sound pack for the notification sound on the site, it seems, PProvost :)`
`06:44.16`	`Xuerian`	`sucks >_<`
`06:44.22`	`PProvost`	`Ok, someone say PProvost again. :)`
`06:44.28`	`Xuerian`	`PProvost: ping.`
`06:44.30`	`PProvost`	`lol`
`06:44.43`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: ping.`
`06:44.47`	`deci`	`PProvost: ping`
`06:45.00`	`Cartas`	`PProvost.`
`06:45.02`	`PProvost`	`hmm... nothing`
`06:45.02`	`Xuerian`	`You can change it's default <name>, to <name>: in the misc options.`
`06:45.04`	`Cartas`	`What's with the 'ping'? :o`
`06:45.06`	`Xuerian`	`Ehm`
`06:45.08`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: ping.`
`06:45.11`	`Xuerian`	`you have to tell it the variations`
`06:45.12`	`Xuerian`	`>_>`
`06:45.22`	`PProvost`	`Sure... I'll play with it some more.`
`06:45.26`	`PProvost`	`Looks interesting so far.`
`06:45.27`	`Xuerian`	`Or use a regex`
`06:45.28`	`deci`	`PProvost: SET PHASERS TO STUN`
`06:45.29`	`Xuerian`	`which I'm too lazy to do`
`06:45.31`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: ping.`
`06:45.35`	`PProvost`	`pong`
`06:45.40`	`PProvost`	`nak`
`06:46.00`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: ping.`
`06:46.15`	`PProvost`	`Yes Mikma?`
`06:46.20`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: ok`
`06:46.33`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: i'm gonna go now and have some coffee.`
`06:46.35`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: ping.`
`06:46.39`	`PProvost`	`hehe`
`06:46.47`	`Cartas`	`Mikma: I'll miss you, old chap.`
`06:47.25`	`Xuerian`	`PProvost: It's for Miranda-IM, but it's just wav's and a good smooth soundpack: http://addons.miranda-im.org/details.php?action=viewfile&id=1512`
`06:47.50`	`PProvost`	`I've got the sound pack from Hydra, but I'll do that later.`
`06:48.02`	`Xuerian`	`Hydra soundpack is teh suck, honestly =\|`
`06:48.06`	`PProvost`	`Right now I want good visual highlighting and task bar blinking.`
`06:48.07`	`PProvost`	`Oh?`
`06:48.10`	`Xuerian`	`:P`
`06:48.22`	`oxman`	`patch day`
`06:48.23`	`oxman`	`:)`
`06:48.42`	`Cartas`	`Hm`
`06:49.08`	`PProvost`	`Xuerian, is there a keystroke for getting me back into the edit box? I hate the mouse.`
`06:49.35`	`*** join/#wowace Cartass (i=HydraIRC@host86-133-60-172.range86-133.btcentralplus.com)`
`06:49.37`	`Xuerian`	`ctrl+tab usually drops you into the message box`
`06:49.42`	`Cartas`	`Cartass`
`06:49.45`	`Cartas`	`Hmm`
`06:50.04`	`Xuerian`	`of... whatever...window... you end up in`
`06:50.04`	`Cartas`	`Cartass`
`06:50.13`	`Cartas`	`What do I put in for the highlight string? :o`
`06:50.16`	`Cartas`	`$me?`
`06:50.38`	`*** join/#wowace Dhraga (n=dhragasm@static-213.88.132.126.addr.tdcsong.se)`
`06:50.42`	`[Ammo]`	`doesn't just about every default theme highlight messages where your name appears?`
`06:50.52`	`Cartas`	`Nope`
`06:51.04`	`[Ammo]`	`get a better client then :)`
`06:51.23`	`Cartas`	`Cartass`
`06:51.25`	`Cartas`	`Hmm`
`06:51.38`	`Cartas`	`Cartass`
`06:51.40`	`PProvost`	`[Ammo], just trying a new on Xuerian turned us on to.`
`06:51.43`	`Cartas`	`Okay, that works...`
`06:51.48`	`PProvost`	`what works?`
`06:51.50`	`PProvost`	`share share`
`06:51.52`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`06:51.55`	`[Ammo]`	`I'm conservative :p`
`06:51.55`	`Xuerian`	`<_<`
`06:51.57`	`*** join/#wowace [1]DrDre (n=DrDre@cpe-071-070-230-101.nc.res.rr.com)`
`06:51.58`	`Cartas`	`Well, my highlight is set to 'Cartass' atm.`
`06:52.05`	`[Ammo]`	`been using irssi for years`
`06:52.09`	`Cartas`	`I want to know how I can get it so it highlights my name, whatever it is :P`
`06:52.13`	`Cartass`	`:(`
`06:52.14`	`Xuerian`	`Setting your highlights to "Cartass" and "Cartass:" seem to cover most of your bases`
`06:52.23`	`Cartas`	`Hm?`
`06:52.26`	`Cartas`	`What about Cartas then? :O`
`06:52.26`	`*** join/#wowace xDrDre (n=xdrdre@cpe-071-070-230-101.nc.res.rr.com)`
`06:52.30`	`Xuerian`	`or.`
`06:52.32`	`Xuerian`	`whatever <_<`
`06:52.38`	`Xuerian`	`<name> and <name>:`
`06:52.43`	`Cartas`	`So...`
`06:52.49`	`Cartas`	`If I put: Cartas and Cartas:`
`06:52.54`	`Cartas`	`It'll do both Cartas and Cartass?`
`06:53.07`	`Xuerian`	`Nuuuu one each. I'm sure you can do a regex (it says it!), I just have two highlight entries :P`
`06:53.14`	`Cartas`	`Aww`
`06:53.18`	`Xuerian`	`It's actually kindof handy`
`06:53.19`	`Cartas`	`That's stupid :O`
`06:53.26`	`[Ammo]`	`if proper regexps just 1`
`06:53.26`	`Cartas`	`mIRC > HydraIRC for that!`
`06:53.29`	`Xuerian`	`THe Xuerian: is highlighed red and makes a different sound than the linline one`
`06:53.34`	`Xuerian`	`s/linline/inline/`
`06:53.56`	`Xuerian`	`lol`
`06:53.59`	`Xuerian`	`Whatever floats your boat, Cartas`
`06:54.11`	`Cartas`	`Having proper highlighting floats my boat :P`
`06:54.20`	`PProvost`	`I'm still not getting it to work. Gotta be me.`
`06:54.31`	`Cartas`	`Right`
`06:54.38`	`Cartas`	`You goto the notifications tab`
`06:54.45`	`Cartas`	`Then there will already be a hightlight option there.`
`06:55.03`	`PProvost`	`Yep. Did that.`
`06:55.07`	`Cartas`	`Just click Edit on it, go down to 'String/RegExp' and type in: 'PProvost'.`
`06:55.12`	`PProvost`	`Nothing working though.`
`06:55.14`	`PProvost`	`Yep. Did that`
`06:55.19`	`Cartas`	`Okay`
`06:55.26`	`Xuerian`	`Ok, ping me various ways :P`
`06:55.28`	`Cartas`	`What happens when someone says your name then?`
`06:56.00`	`PProvost`	`Nothing`
`06:56.03`	`Cartas`	`Cartass`
`06:56.07`	`PProvost`	`Cartas`
`06:56.11`	`Cartas`	`My line goes yellow and a noise plays :P`
`06:56.16`	`PProvost`	`grrr`
`06:56.22`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`06:56.26`	`Cartas`	`What've you done? :p`
`06:56.46`	`Xuerian`	`Also`
`06:56.59`	`Xuerian`	`You'll want to edit hydrairc.exe with a hex editor and null out the quit lines.`
`06:57.07`	`Cartass`	`Why? :o`
`06:57.08`	`Xuerian`	`They suck. But also aren't shown if you quit with /quit <message>`
`06:57.21`	`Cartass`	`No-one reeeally pays attention to them, right? :P`
`06:57.25`	`Cartas`	`Cartas`
`06:57.27`	`Cartas`	`Cartass`
`06:57.28`	`Cartass`	`Cartas`
`06:57.34`	`PProvost`	`I assume the default is what DrDre just said?`
`06:57.35`	`*** join/#wowace DrDre (n=DrDre@cpe-071-070-230-101.nc.res.rr.com)`
`06:57.56`	`Xuerian`	`several variations of that`
`06:58.04`	`DrDre`	`hydra is pretty nice, jus dont hit cycle on server list :p some reasonwouldnt let me back in wowace chan`
`06:58.12`	`Xuerian`	`lol.`
`06:58.28`	`Cartas`	`Think I'll stick with mIRC & NNS for now :)`
`06:58.34`	`Xuerian`	`http://www.hydrairc.com/wiki/wakka.php?wakka=Notifications`
`06:58.57`	`*** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@122.49.161.12)`
`07:00.15`	`oxman`	`:)`
`07:00.30`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight (i=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-191.west.biz.rr.com)`
`07:00.30`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`07:00.36`	`oxman`	`hi ckknight`
`07:00.37`	`Xuerian`	`Heya ckknight.`
`07:00.49`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: ping.`
`07:00.53`	`Mikma`	`i love copypaste`
`07:01.00`	`oxman`	`superinspect count +heal correctly for you ? Not here :[`
`07:01.10`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`07:01.15`	`ckknight`	`back from school`
`07:01.15`	`Cartas`	`<Mikma> i love copypaste`
`07:01.18`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`07:01.19`	`Mikma`	`PProvost: ping.`
`07:01.24`	`ckknight`	`~literal emulate Mikma`
`07:01.32`	`purl`	`"emulate mikma" is "(<action>is an assclown. \| <reply>I like cake. \| <reply>$randnick is an assclown. \| <reply>Industrial loves manboobs! \| <reply>$randnick: Make it Ace2 \|<reply>$randnick: It's broken, fix it!)"`
`07:01.35`	`Xuerian`	`oxman: It counts it correctly for me, most of the time....`
`07:01.36`	`Mikma`	`i got a lovely idea for addon but i don't know howto code it`
`07:01.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`superinspect as never counted +dmg correctly for me, it never includes set bonuses`
`07:01.58`	`Mikma`	`3m-stickypapers!`
`07:02.01`	`Xuerian`	`...more or less <_<`
`07:02.05`	`PProvost`	`ckknight, how'd the math problem go?`
`07:02.10`	`ckknight`	`purl, emulate mikma is (<action>is an assclown. \| <reply>I like cake. \| <reply>$randnick is an assclown. \| <reply>Industrial loves manboobs! \| <reply>$randnick: Make it Ace2 \|<reply>$randnick: It's broken, fix it! \|<reply>I love copypaste)`
`07:02.13`	`purl`	`...but emulate mikma is already something else...`
`07:02.14`	`Mikma`	`you can make notepads on screen which appear in certain conditions`
`07:02.19`	`ckknight`	`purl, no, emulate mikma is (<action>is an assclown. \| <reply>I like cake. \| <reply>$randnick is an assclown. \| <reply>Industrial loves manboobs! \| <reply>$randnick: Make it Ace2 \|<reply>$randnick: It's broken, fix it! \|<reply>I love copypaste)`
`07:02.20`	`purl`	`ckknight: okay`
`07:02.22`	`oxman`	`lol`
`07:02.45`	`Mikma`	`like dewdrop menu -> create new memorysticker -> text`
`07:03.02`	`Mikma`	`then you can define "only show in towns" or "show in battle" or "show in AV" etc`
`07:03.20`	`ckknight`	`PProvost, well, I still have to solve it, but basically, what I'm doing is that I will sort it linearly, then permutate the last few samples, which, although costing O(n!), n is only 6 instead of possibly 32 or more`
`07:03.22`	`Mikma`	`like, add a '`
`07:03.25`	`Mikma`	`dass`
`07:03.39`	`Mikma`	`like, add a '3M' paper on screen which has "buy water" and conditions "show in town"`
`07:03.52`	`PProvost`	`Xuerian, I figured it out. When you have case-sensitive turned off, you have to use all lower case in the regex. Idiot regex implementation.`
`07:04.00`	`Mikma`	`then when you enter town, you get a yellow "paper" on screen reminding you to buy water :D`
`07:04.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`"show when in instance and dead" "blame the healers"`
`07:04.27`	`ckknight`	`so I split the problem into two separate parts, one which is O(n^2), and one which is O(n!)`
`07:04.36`	`PProvost`	`ckknight, ouch. O(n!) sucks royal. But then, so does that problem.`
`07:04.38`	`ckknight`	`hopefully it should work, though`
`07:04.48`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`07:04.58`	`ckknight`	`also, I was offered a job at Cisco`
`07:04.59`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`07:05.00`	`Xuerian`	`lol PProvost. Well, I never made any claims, I just use it :P`
`07:05.06`	`PProvost`	`Grats, ckknight.`
`07:05.13`	`ckknight`	`doubt I'll take it, though`
`07:05.16`	`PProvost`	`Xuerian, no... I think I like it.`
`07:05.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`is the svn still getting overloaded?`
`07:05.20`	`PProvost`	`Yep.`
`07:05.21`	`PProvost`	`Crushed`
`07:05.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`taking forever to check stuff out`
`07:05.56`	`[Ammo]`	`patience, it'll all get sorted :)`
`07:06.02`	`[Ammo]`	`every new thing has its hickups`
`07:06.16`	`[Ammo]`	`DNS server at work is a lot better than at home though :)`
`07:06.20`	`[Ammo]`	`can finally browse the forums again`
`07:06.20`	`MoonWolf`	`not to mention we are getting hammered by users right now.`
`07:06.29`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah that too`
`07:06.39`	`[Ammo]`	`bloody 1.12.1 coinciding with server change ~= good thing`
`07:06.42`	`Mikma`	`ttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2131`
`07:06.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah im guessing this is due to so many people having to recheckout everything because of the address change`
`07:06.53`	`Mikma`	`s/ttp/http/`
`07:07.12`	`Cartas`	`Anyone here buying Defcon? :O`
`07:07.34`	`[Ammo]`	`I'm not going to ui.worldofwar.net`
`07:07.36`	`[Ammo]`	`no sir.`
`07:07.46`	`Dhraga`	`hehe`
`07:08.12`	`[Ammo]`	`3 of my guildmates got infected from that site and their gold stolen/gear sharded`
`07:08.23`	`Dhraga`	`Just use FireFox + the extension NoScript and also add Adblock`
`07:08.25`	`Cartas`	`I thought`
`07:08.28`	`Cartas`	`It's only if you click on banners`
`07:08.31`	`Mikma`	`[Ammo]: ok, i'll paste you a screenshot`
`07:08.33`	`oxman`	`some spam are sweet`
`07:08.35`	`Cartas`	`Or download stuff when you get asked? :P`
`07:08.40`	`Mikma`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/images/ui/02131.Mubble.jpg`
`07:08.42`	`Xuerian`	`haha Mikma, that's like IM popups. Not too bad actually`
`07:08.43`	`oxman`	`i receive spam with subject "Spam Message"`
`07:08.51`	`oxman`	`thank you to help me for fiter your message`
`07:08.52`	`oxman`	`xD`
`07:08.54`	`MoonWolf`	`brilliant.`
`07:09.04`	`MoonWolf`	`at least it's honest spam then.`
`07:09.06`	`Mikma`	`Xuerian: well the idea would be to use something like that in the '3M stickynotes"`
`07:09.14`	`oxman`	`indeed MoonWolf ;)`
`07:09.50`	`Dhraga`	`Btw, some time ago there was talk about making a addon with a filter to deny whispers from lvl 1 players... Did anyone crate anything like that ?`
`07:09.51`	`Xuerian`	`Heh, yeah, seems like it'd work decently :)`
`07:10.19`	`MoonWolf`	`well, there is the delay of the /who command`
`07:10.30`	`MoonWolf`	`and the fact that a /who on one player may turn up more then one result.`
`07:10.47`	`oxman`	`why do you want that Dhraga ?`
`07:11.09`	`Mikma`	`who want's to start doing an addon called '3M' with me? :D`
`07:11.12`	`oxman`	`eu tracker down :D`
`07:11.13`	`MoonWolf`	`stupid spammers`
`07:11.22`	`oxman`	`Mikma you and you ?`
`07:11.27`	`Dhraga`	`Oxman: To minimize the Buy gold here + Address msg's`
`07:11.28`	`MoonWolf`	`i'll come`
`07:11.29`	`oxman`	`I use something like THGSpamFilter (on curse)`
`07:11.30`	`ckknight`	`the class that the problem is for was for this programming contest that's coming up in November. basically, I was able to solve 5 problems on my own in about the time which would be allotted, which basically means that I'd place 12th in the US had I been in last year's contest. Granted, in the real contest, I'd have two teammates as well, helping. :-P`
`07:11.31`	`oxman`	`It work very well :)`
`07:11.37`	`MoonWolf`	`now we need someone else with a name starting with m.`
`07:11.39`	`oxman`	`Dhraga use THGSpamfilter`
`07:11.43`	`oxman`	`(or something like that on curse)`
`07:11.53`	`Dhraga`	`Ok, I'll have a peek at it`
`07:11.56`	`Dhraga`	`Thanks`
`07:11.56`	`Mikma`	`oxman: ok you volunteered just now`
`07:12.02`	`oxman`	`:p`
`07:12.09`	`oxman`	`I hate notepad in the game :p`
`07:12.20`	`oxman`	`I don't use tinypad :)`
`07:12.22`	`MoonWolf`	`give wow server plx`
`07:12.34`	`*** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@gw.apt.no)`
`07:13.09`	`Mikma`	`oxman: assclown you missed the point`
`07:13.16`	`oxman`	`:p`
`07:13.32`	`Elkano`	`MoonWolf, you didn't merge my branch into Medeleev, yet, did you?`
`07:13.39`	`MoonWolf`	`no`
`07:13.46`	`MoonWolf`	`i have done no work on mendy for ages`
`07:13.46`	`PProvost`	`Good night all.`
`07:13.52`	`Dhraga`	`Oxman : It looks great, thanks for the tip`
`07:13.52`	`Xuerian`	`'night PProvost :P`
`07:13.55`	`MoonWolf`	`i'll find some time to do it this week`
`07:14.01`	`MoonWolf`	`ace2 it that is.`
`07:14.08`	`MoonWolf`	`then update it.`
`07:14.10`	`Elkano`	`ah, k :)`
`07:14.26`	`Xuerian`	`Nice, ckknight`
`07:14.30`	`oxman`	`Dhraga you're welcome :)`
`07:14.30`	`Elkano`	`well, I'm off for lecture... l8ers...`
`07:14.37`	`Xuerian`	`Cya Elkano :P`
`07:14.57`	`Dhraga`	`Oxman (or anyone else) any other addon you recommend to minimize gold spamm ?`
`07:15.25`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian, note that this is despite me being a Freshman and most other people competing are seniors. Even my teammates are seniors`
`07:16.06`	`kergoth`	`http://pingus.seul.org/ such a fun game, just wish there were more good levels :(`
`07:16.23`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: Let me guess, programming is fun and intuitive for you, right?`
`07:16.57`	`oxman`	`Dhraga with this addon i've 0 spam. And 0 is 0, since three months`
`07:17.02`	`oxman`	`so i don't need an other`
`07:17.03`	`oxman`	`:)`
`07:17.09`	`ckknight`	`yea, I believe I have a genetically different brain structure that lets me understand concepts faster than other people :-P`
`07:17.17`	`Dhraga`	`Hehe okies, then I'm satisfied.. Thanks again =)`
`07:17.34`	`ckknight`	`I'm interested in programming and thus put a lot of effort into it`
`07:17.53`	`Xuerian`	`lol, well, then I have no doubt. You're up against people who bang their heads against it to get it in, instead of soaking it up :P`
`07:17.54`	`ckknight`	`but I'm competent in other areas as well`
`07:18.39`	`ckknight`	`I also have a pretty good memory, which helps`
`07:18.46`	`Xuerian`	`That's where you and I differ XD`
`07:19.16`	`ckknight`	`for example, I hadn't coded C/C++ for over two years, and I was able to code a perfect solution program without bugs just last week, as a test for the class`
`07:19.36`	`ckknight`	`it was an N-Queens solution program`
`07:19.38`	`Xuerian`	`Haha, nice.`
`07:19.40`	`ckknight`	`pretty simple, mind you`
`07:20.24`	`ckknight`	`I'm sure there's gotta be others like me`
`07:20.29`	`ckknight`	`I can't be the only one :-P`
`07:20.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres nothing like getting 2nd in a national competetion when you didnt know the answers to most the questions and just went with what seemed right`
`07:20.35`	`krka`	`pretty sure you're unique!`
`07:20.49`	`Xuerian`	`Still, that's excellent, it takes me a little bit to remaster things I haven't messed with, even if it's only for a few lines :P`
`07:21.09`	`krka`	`ckknight: ACM contest?`
`07:21.11`	`ckknight`	`Arrowmaster, hey, I got 2nd for USA in a programming competition in 12th grade`
`07:21.17`	`ckknight`	`krka, right`
`07:21.23`	`ckknight`	`granted, it was 5th in the world :-P`
`07:21.36`	`krka`	`i've been to a couple of those myself`
`07:21.40`	`krka`	`done fairly ok`
`07:21.42`	`ckknight`	`cool stuff`
`07:21.42`	`oxman`	`2nd in a contest in USA !!!!???`
`07:21.52`	`ckknight`	`oxman, 5th worldwide, though.`
`07:21.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`got 2nd in a cisco networking competition my senior year of highschool`
`07:22.08`	`ckknight`	`fun.`
`07:22.18`	`oxman`	`you are 5th in the worldwide ckknight ?`
`07:22.24`	`ckknight`	`oxman, those Germans are smart, guy.`
`07:22.28`	`krka`	`some other people at my school got 2nd place in ACM world finals`
`07:22.36`	`krka`	`hard to beat them at local competitions :/`
`07:22.40`	`oxman`	`you are crazy :b`
`07:22.40`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`07:22.54`	`Xuerian`	`Seeing as I've never taken classes on programming or really been to highschool, I'll have to not contribute any contest stories :P`
`07:22.56`	`ckknight`	`oxman, nah, I just believe I'm the modern day Isaac Newton`
`07:23.23`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian, it was an extracurricular when I was there`
`07:23.25`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: ss or it didn't happen`
`07:23.32`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian, nah, right guy.`
`07:23.36`	`Xuerian`	`Good XD`
`07:23.44`	`ckknight`	`Mikma, lol`
`07:24.06`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian, he also invented calculus and such, which is, imho, more important`
`07:24.12`	`krka`	`acm contests are damn fun`
`07:24.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`vocational school myself, spent half the day for 2 years of highschool learning cisco networking`
`07:24.47`	`Xuerian`	`I leave calc to the mathematicians. I suck at anything dealing with permutations of conglomerations of numbers. >_>`
`07:24.53`	`oxman`	`ckknight :p`
`07:25.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`and have yet to get a networking job......`
`07:25.27`	`ckknight`	`yea, so my professor offered me a job, and so did the Cisco guy in the class`
`07:25.29`	`ckknight`	`which is funny.`
`07:25.36`	`Xuerian`	`taking either? :P`
`07:25.41`	`ckknight`	`prolly not`
`07:25.52`	`ckknight`	`I'm holding out for something cooler`
`07:25.54`	`ckknight`	`like Blizzard`
`07:25.59`	`ckknight`	`or MS`
`07:26.01`	`ckknight`	`or what have you`
`07:26.16`	`krka`	`http://www.csc.kth.se/contest/ICPC-2004/`
`07:26.38`	`Mikma`	`helllllll no`
`07:26.44`	`Mikma`	`if you go to blizzard i'll quit the game`
`07:26.45`	`ckknight`	`lol, slutade`
`07:26.49`	`ckknight`	`why, Mikma?`
`07:26.54`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`07:26.59`	`Cartas`	`ckknight!`
`07:27.01`	`Cartas`	`good luck :)`
`07:27.03`	`ckknight`	`hey, guy.`
`07:27.06`	`Cartas`	`I hope you get somewhere good!`
`07:27.09`	`ckknight`	`good luck with what?`
`07:27.09`	`Mikma`	`because then everyone will have cool mods ingame and i'm not the only one special`
`07:27.15`	`Cartas`	`The job! :P`
`07:27.18`	`Xuerian`	`hahaha`
`07:27.19`	`Cartas`	`Working at Blizzard/MS :O`
`07:27.21`	`ckknight`	`lol, Mikma`
`07:27.29`	`ckknight`	`Cartas, I need to write up my resume first`
`07:27.41`	`Cartas`	`If you get into Blizzard, don't put FuBar in the default UI please :P`
`07:27.47`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`07:27.50`	`ckknight`	`why, Cartas?`
`07:27.55`	`Mikma`	`"I'm the Knight. I code. gief me job. kkthxbb"`
`07:27.59`	`Cartas`	`Or, make it so it can be turned off :P`
`07:28.00`	`ckknight`	`though I personally believe it doesn't really belong anyway`
`07:28.02`	`snurre`	`whats so wrong with blizz? :p`
`07:28.14`	`oxman`	`I want know the hunter talents !!!! Because the priest talents will have some very intersting modifications :D`
`07:28.37`	`ckknight`	`basically, I have no real job experience outside of working for myself, but I have a lot of various coding experience, and I've been in a few coding contests`
`07:28.48`	`ckknight`	`and I don't have a college degree.`
`07:29.00`	`ckknight`	`but, as it turns out, I'm awesome`
`07:29.03`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`07:29.04`	`ckknight`	`so I hope that gets noted.`
`07:29.07`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: many of my friends have done the same actually...`
`07:29.17`	`Cartas`	`If you have that in your 'resume', you'll always get the job, ckknight.`
`07:29.26`	`Cartas`	`"but, as it turns out, I'm awesome."`
`07:29.31`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`07:29.33`	`Mikma`	`they are coders in companies and haven't finished any "good schools that teach you how to code an gives you a diploma about it"`
`07:30.03`	`ckknight`	`Mikma, I'm going to run out of undergrad CS classes by next fall.`
`07:30.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`because most the best coders are selftaught`
`07:30.08`	`Mikma`	`well, 2 of my friends and my wife's brother... everyone learned to code at home`
`07:30.12`	`ckknight`	`I'm taking 3 courses now for the hell of it`
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`07:30.22`	`ckknight`	`Algorithms, Theory of Computation, and this contest one`
`07:30.22`	`Cartas`	`"I know nothing about quantum physics, but, as it turns out, I'm awesome." Gets hired as a quantum physicist`
`07:30.49`	`ckknight`	`Cartas, thing is, I do know quantum physics`
`07:30.50`	`Mikma`	`and other friend of mine works at Nokia, with latest telephones and maemo :P`
`07:30.59`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`07:31.03`	`Cartas`	`Well, it was an example!`
`07:31.23`	`Cartas`	`Anyways, I best be off to uni.`
`07:31.26`	`Cartas`	`Cya old chaps!`
`07:31.29`	`ckknight`	`cya, guy`
`07:31.33`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`07:31.38`	`Mikma`	`~emulate ckknight`
`07:31.39`	`purl`	`You know why? Because you touch yourself at night`
`07:31.40`	`Iceroth`	`is it only me or is the new server running much slower than the old one?`
`07:31.40`	`Xuerian`	`'night Cartas :P`
`07:31.44`	`Cartas`	`:o`
`07:31.47`	`Cartas`	`G'night old chap!`
`07:31.53`	`ckknight`	`lol, Xuerian`
`07:31.54`	`Cartas`	`I hope you don't mind :P`
`07:32.10`	`Xuerian`	`Hand it here, Cartas, I need it now XD`
`07:32.47`	`Xuerian`	`yes it is Iceroth. It's going to be getting new/more ram soon`
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`07:33.21`	`Iceroth`	`ah nice`
`07:33.21`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: You sound in line for a great job when it rolls around =P... On other notes I really do have to turn in, it's 3:30.. woo.`
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`07:35.41`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: code us a onscreen stickynotes`
`07:35.53`	`ckknight`	`I don't have wow minutes left.`
`07:36.07`	`Mikma`	`you don't need wow, you got wowbench xD`
`07:36.13`	`AxiumKT`	`lol`
`07:36.13`	`ckknight`	`so, I can't.`
`07:36.13`	`AxiumKT`	`http://filer.curse-gaming.com/mscreens/11058.jpg`
`07:36.16`	`Xuerian`	`You haven't bought any more? =(`
`07:36.23`	`AxiumKT`	`the new "ace 2 photek" looks like every ace2 interface out there`
`07:36.30`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian, haven't gotten around to it, I don't have a car`
`07:36.51`	`snurre`	`AxiumKT: aguf+praid+elkbuffbar combos tend to do that :p`
`07:36.58`	`Xuerian`	`Doh =(`
`07:37.00`	`ckknight`	`looks nice, AxiumKT`
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`07:37.11`	`AxiumKT`	`that's not my interface :P`
`07:37.15`	`oxman`	`elkuffbar ?`
`07:37.27`	`AxiumKT`	`mine would be tha: http://filebox.vt.edu/users/jubelche/sept-shot2.jpg`
`07:37.36`	`AxiumKT`	`what i posted before was just the new photek ui`
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`07:39.36`	`Xuerian`	`well, bed calls. 'night everyone :P`
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`07:40.36`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`Randed DPS should be ranged dps`
`07:40.43`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`and new photek UI modified tbh =D`
`07:40.58`	`ckknight`	`I wish I didn't have to go to writing class or communications class`
`07:41.06`	`ckknight`	`for Comm, I am learning nothing`
`07:41.28`	`ckknight`	`for writing, I have yet to learn anything of substance, and it's taking an awful lot of time`
`07:42.23`	`ckknight`	`oh well`
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`07:46.53`	`oxman`	`hum, i must do some hack for my extend function`
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`07:53.11`	`oxman`	`Hum;..`
`07:53.31`	`oxman`	`How often IsActioInRange is called by the actionbar ?`
`07:53.39`	`Jens`	`Anyone tried running WoW under Vista?`
`07:53.45`	`oxman`	`yep it works fine`
`07:54.07`	`Jens`	`Can't log in because of maintenance right now, but logon screen looks laggy.`
`07:54.34`	`Jens`	`And the patcher fails. Had to get patch from 3rd party source (which I loathe).`
`07:54.39`	`oxman`	`maybe you need to buy ram ;)`
`07:54.46`	`Jens`	`Got 1GB.`
`07:55.13`	`oxman`	`I've too.`
`07:55.18`	`oxman`	`Which GC ?`
`07:55.25`	`Jens`	`?`
`07:55.28`	`oxman`	`graphic card`
`07:55.37`	`Jens`	`Oh... nVidia 6600 something.`
`07:55.43`	`oxman`	`in france we said "cg" (carte graphique)`
`07:55.46`	`oxman`	`ok, me an ati`
`07:55.49`	`oxman`	`maybe its the problem`
`07:55.54`	`oxman`	`try to disable effect of vista`
`07:56.06`	`Jens`	`Installed official nVidia drivers.`
`07:56.30`	`oxman`	`wow !!!`
`07:56.34`	`oxman`	`whats this bug !`
`07:56.38`	`oxman`	`i update my french client`
`07:56.47`	`oxman`	`and I can only choose "english" at language`
`07:56.53`	`Jens`	`Le 0wned.`
`07:57.00`	`oxman`	`then i choose "select a server"`
`07:57.07`	`oxman`	`and i don't see any ongly like english/french/german`
`07:57.12`	`oxman`	`so i can't choose a french server xDD`
`07:57.38`	`oxman`	`ongly/onglet/tab`
`07:57.39`	`oxman`	`;)`
`07:57.56`	`Jens`	`My XP installation CD looks appealing right now.`
`07:58.21`	`AxiumKT`	`Jens: Le 0wned. rofl`
`07:58.29`	`Iceroth`	`lolled at that too :P`
`07:58.45`	`Jens`	`:D`
`07:58.54`	`oxman`	`hum boring, how I can do IsActionInRange check the range for targertarget instead of target !?`
`07:59.26`	`Jens`	`I love France, but french makes no sense :)`
`07:59.32`	`Iceroth`	`uh wth.. tried to install activestate perl package (for windows), my avg virus scanner bitches that there's a trojan :s`
`07:59.41`	`oxman`	`its very hard to understand and write Jens`
`07:59.55`	`oxman`	`Iceroth forget your avg scanner`
`08:00.03`	`oxman`	`no problem about activestate perl`
`08:00.11`	`Jens`	`Yea... and 0.01% of french people speak english, which made my vacation that much more difficult.`
`08:00.19`	`oxman`	`:D`
`08:00.27`	`oxman`	`0.1% or 1% not 0.01 :p`
`08:00.35`	`oxman`	`I think its 1% :)`
`08:00.35`	`Jens`	`I'm coming back for more next year though.`
`08:00.38`	`ckknight`	`yea, let's kill France.`
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`08:00.39`	`oxman`	`ok`
`08:00.52`	`Jens`	`Arcachon kicks ass.`
`08:01.20`	`oxman`	`If IsActionInRange is only call each 0.25 sec by actionbar, maybe i can do a TargetUnit("targettarget") ;IsActionInrange; TargetLastTarget()`
`08:01.54`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`08:02.07`	`ckknight`	`we should refer to the internet as the internet tubes from now on.`
`08:02.19`	`AxiumKT`	`ckknight: clearly`
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`08:15.23`	`JensRex`	`Nuking Vista install :/`
`08:16.15`	`oxman`	`:p`
`08:16.15`	`MoonWolf`	`yay`
`08:16.28`	`oxman`	`the EU Closed Beta start soon :)`
`08:16.34`	`oxman`	`in fact the French`
`08:16.34`	`oxman`	`;)`
`08:16.45`	`nevcairiel`	`stupid french.`
`08:16.46`	`JensRex`	`Just wanted to check it out anyway. I won't run prerelease Windows as main OS.`
`08:16.46`	`MoonWolf`	`stupid french`
`08:16.51`	`MoonWolf`	`GET OUT OF MY HEAD.`
`08:16.55`	`oxman`	`Don't be jalouz`
`08:16.56`	`oxman`	`=p`
`08:17.25`	`nevcairiel`	`in fact, i am installing the latest vista release from CPP right now.`
`08:17.27`	`oxman`	`:)`
`08:17.39`	`Mikma`	`ooooookey, so no playing for me in 24h`
`08:17.42`	`JensRex`	`My Vista installation was fucked.`
`08:17.52`	`Mikma`	`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html;jsessionid=94080D9398E0C24AFCE3AD85A0CEFD23?topicId=44534757&sid=1`
`08:17.57`	`Mikma`	`i found my realm in the list`
`08:18.11`	`nevcairiel`	`sucks to be you today :)`
`08:18.20`	`JensRex`	`Refusesd to install from SATA DVD... and this morning when I had let it install over night, it was crashed to a black screen.`
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`08:18.28`	`MoonWolf`	`mine is there too damnit`
`08:18.34`	`dafire`	`hi ;)`
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`08:18.40`	`nevcairiel`	`install over night? it took like half an hour to install for me.`
`08:18.58`	`JensRex`	`How the hell do I click links from linux console irssi?`
`08:19.14`	`nevcairiel`	`i mounted the image in daemon tools and started install under xp`
`08:19.17`	`nevcairiel`	`and it was quick :)`
`08:19.21`	`oxman`	`:p`
`08:19.22`	`MoonWolf`	`you don't muahahahaaha`
`08:19.35`	`nevcairiel`	`its linux console, no clicking involved there :p`
`08:19.41`	`dafire`	`is it just me or is the wowace page that slow right now ? :)`
`08:19.52`	`JensRex`	`MoonWolf: Tell me if Azjol'Nerub is on the list of DEATH!`
`08:20.15`	`MoonWolf`	`nope`
`08:20.22`	`JensRex`	`Damn...`
`08:20.31`	`nevcairiel`	`damn? be happy`
`08:20.32`	`JensRex`	`Looks like I'll have to go to MC tonight then.`
`08:20.32`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: no that means i can do something else today, like watch the 2 movies i bought`
`08:20.33`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`08:20.45`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: heh`
`08:21.14`	`nevcairiel`	`seen my commit from last night? why where those functions which were not called at all in the code ? :D`
`08:21.19`	`Mikma`	`Demolition Man and National Treasure!`
`08:21.28`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: what functions?`
`08:21.42`	`nevcairiel`	`Rest<stuff>`
`08:21.43`	`JensRex`	`NOES! I forgot to back up Adblock settings and bookmarks from original XP install.`
`08:21.49`	`nevcairiel`	`ResetPosition, ResetPadding`
`08:21.50`	`nevcairiel`	`etc`
`08:22.03`	`nevcairiel`	`i did a search in files, and not referenced anywhere`
`08:22.08`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: i made them for easy reseting, but seems like they arent used now :P`
`08:22.17`	`nevcairiel`	`gone now`
`08:22.18`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`08:22.20`	`Mikma`	`k`
`08:22.27`	`Mikma`	`doesn't matter :)`
`08:22.38`	`nevcairiel`	`i cleaned everything up a bit, and moved the default bar positions into acedb defaults`
`08:22.47`	`nevcairiel`	`was the only thing that could possibly have reset the bars`
`08:23.25`	`Mikma`	`umm`
`08:23.34`	`Mikma`	`now that...`
`08:23.37`	`Mikma`	`i have to check it out`
`08:23.43`	`Mikma`	`i'm not so sure about that one`
`08:24.19`	`nevcairiel`	`i did a clean wow, no addons no wtf, and enabled bartender, everything looked like before`
`08:24.30`	`dafire`	`hmm`
`08:24.34`	`Mikma`	`well it's not that what i'm worried about`
`08:24.50`	`Mikma`	`i have to check the code before i open my mouth more`
`08:25.23`	`[Insom]Farns`	`!trunk Bartender`
`08:25.43`	`Mikma`	`!trunk Bartender2`
`08:26.02`	`nevcairiel`	`is SVNBot still working?`
`08:26.08`	`Mikma`	`SVNBot: you up?`
`08:26.29`	`oxman`	`wakeup SVNBot`
`08:26.30`	`oxman`	`:p`
`08:26.42`	`Mikma`	`purl: slap SVNBot`
`08:26.44`	`purl`	`ACTION slaps SVNBot, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!`
`08:26.45`	`oxman`	`SVNBot change your dns please, its why svn is down for you`
`08:26.45`	`oxman`	`:p`
`08:26.52`	`Mikma`	`it's just laggy`
`08:27.05`	`Mikma`	`<1126> [freenode] <SVNBot> Your command is being processed.`
`08:27.13`	`oxman`	`:)`
`08:27.14`	`Mikma`	`got it moment ago`
`08:27.20`	`oxman`	`one week after :`
`08:27.33`	`oxman`	`<SVNBot> I've understand your command. Please take the ticket.`
`08:28.13`	`oxman`	`I ask ozRaid author if he plans to use ace2 and method of PR to get infos about raid =p`
`08:28.18`	`evl_`	`!die`
`08:28.59`	`nevcairiel`	`i forgot to change one part to use the acedb defaults as well`
`08:29.11`	`[Insom]Farns`	`Compliations scare me..`
`08:29.18`	`SVNBot`	`The latest revision of Bartender2 is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/Bartender2/`
`08:29.25`	`oxman`	`FINE SVNBOT !`
`08:29.26`	`oxman`	`xD`
`08:29.26`	`nevcairiel`	`cheer`
`08:30.01`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: the reason why i don't wan't the default positions to be in Defaults.lua is because it will fuck up with bigger and smaller resolutions...`
`08:30.02`	`MoonWolf`	`yay`
`08:30.11`	`nevcairiel`	`no it wont`
`08:30.14`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: i'll explain that later, now i'm going to eat something`
`08:30.17`	`Mikma`	`yes it will`
`08:30.22`	`Mikma`	`bbl (30min)`
`08:30.30`	`nevcairiel`	`wow scales everythign to 1024x768 in the ui`
`08:31.14`	`dafire`	`hmm.. is the page only slow for me ? are there still problems with the new server ?`
`08:31.23`	`oxman`	`ozRaid seems very good.`
`08:32.09`	`kergoth`	`ozRaid?`
`08:32.29`	`oxman`	`look on ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3207`
`08:32.35`	`oxman`	`its like raidx,`
`08:32.39`	`oxman`	`but only for frames`
`08:32.39`	`oxman`	`:)`
`08:32.52`	`[Insom]Farns`	`Noob question inc: What is the Bonusbar in Bartender2?`
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`08:33.07`	`kergoth`	`ozraid looks like an uglier perfectraid to me`
`08:33.16`	`kergoth`	`[Insom]Farns: the bar that shows up when you enter stealth for example`
`08:33.17`	`oxman`	`why ? :p`
`08:33.31`	`[Insom]Farns`	`Ah, thanks.`
`08:36.51`	`nevcairiel`	`with the latest patch i cannot choose other language realms anymore, whats that oO`
`08:37.05`	`evl_`	`patch today?`
`08:37.05`	`nevcairiel`	`with enGB client, i can only select english realms`
`08:37.12`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`08:38.42`	`CIA-11`	`03nevcairiel * r12106 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua: Bartender2: more cleanup and stuff`
`08:39.59`	`MoonWolf`	`gogo svn bot ?`
`08:40.06`	`[Insom]Farns`	`Is there no other way to configure oCB2 except via the command-line?`
`08:40.20`	`[Insom]Farns`	`oCB had a command to show the bar for a period of time so you can tweak values :O`
`08:40.47`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: ok now`
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`08:41.16`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: all ui elements are scaled to 1024x768, so you wont have to worry about the users resolution`
`08:41.22`	`nevcairiel`	`yay`
`08:41.26`	`evl_`	`[Insom]Farns: Hearthstone?`
`08:41.28`	`nevcairiel`	`Druid Flightform went instantcast`
`08:41.33`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: i had the problem i was talking about with bartender1. the best way to avoid the damn scale/resolution -"bugs" is to setpoint theframes where i wan't them, then to save their places in DB`
`08:42.08`	`nevcairiel`	`i thought about that problem yesterday, so i changed my resolution and everything still looked fine`
`08:42.13`	`nevcairiel`	`default i play on 1280x1024`
`08:42.17`	`nevcairiel`	`tried lower as well.`
`08:42.21`	`Mikma`	`then after that change scale`
`08:42.36`	`Mikma`	`then you will see that the frames start to move their places around the screen`
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`08:43.33`	`nevcairiel`	`everybody has to know, that he has to re-arrange every frame anyway once he changes the ui scale`
`08:43.40`	`nevcairiel`	`nothing stays where its supposed to be`
`08:44.16`	`Mikma`	`but i had the problem with the places and positions when i entered the game with fresh install of bt1`
`08:44.34`	`Mikma`	`and when i started to code bt2 that was one of my concerns`
`08:45.37`	`dafire`	`hmmm.. what is with widescreen users ? do the have an other base resolution ?`
`08:45.48`	`nevcairiel`	`yes they have another base res`
`08:45.59`	`nevcairiel`	`its always 768 in height`
`08:46.08`	`nevcairiel`	`and the correct width to that.`
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`08:46.50`	`dafire`	`I think the best is using anchoring... I anchored my most frames to others.. like 2 chatframes to bottomright and bottomleft of uiparent`
`08:46.54`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: ok now test it out like this. delete your SV. then use uiscale 1 to test a fresh install. look at the positions.`
`08:47.03`	`evl_`	`I agree`
`08:47.07`	`nevcairiel`	`eu servers down`
`08:47.08`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`08:47.12`	`Mikma`	`not long`
`08:47.18`	`oxman`	`:p`
`08:47.22`	`nevcairiel`	`but i will try it again`
`08:47.33`	`evl_`	`Would be great with a mod that would allow me to just "/anchor OufTarget ScreenCenter ScreenBottom"`
`08:47.34`	`evl_`	`:)=`
`08:47.40`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: then set the uiscale to something else. then quit the game and delete SV again. then enter the game and see what happens. let me know the results`
`08:47.45`	`oxman`	`kergoth why ozraid looks like an uglier perfectraid ?`
`08:48.03`	`Mikma`	`oxman: it's RDX :P`
`08:48.15`	`oxman`	`an rdx like yep`
`08:48.49`	`nevcairiel`	`i removed my full WTF folder, so that should reset to a clean game`
`08:48.51`	`dafire`	`hmm.. btw .. in what state is acegui2 ? :)`
`08:49.14`	`oxman`	`acegui2 is useless with dewdrop :p`
`08:49.21`	`oxman`	`dewdrop only need more options :)`
`08:49.28`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: yeah, just remember to set a diffenrent ui-scale before you reset the bt2 defaults.. or...`
`08:49.45`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: just set some other uiscale and use /script BarDB = nil and /rl`
`08:49.48`	`Mikma`	`that should do it actually`
`08:49.52`	`oxman`	`hey !!`
`08:49.56`	`oxman`	`exoraidsetup seems very fine !!`
`08:50.07`	`tumetom`	`oxman did you try ozRaid on a french client?`
`08:50.08`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: yea`
`08:50.15`	`oxman`	`no tumetom why ?`
`08:50.22`	`Halid`	`ozRaid any good?`
`08:50.30`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: if i dont touch any bar, it shouldnt save anything ..`
`08:50.34`	`tumetom`	`I wonder if its really "english-only"`
`08:50.41`	`oxman`	`ok`
`08:50.48`	`snurre`	`http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1709994`
`08:50.55`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: well i made it to save the position when entering the game with clean db. but don't know did you mod it :D`
`08:51.03`	`snurre`	`smith.s01e02.hdtv.xvid-xor.avi <3`
`08:51.26`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: the bars have a default position, as long as they stay there, its handled by the defaults in AceDB and nothing i saved`
`08:51.40`	`nevcairiel`	`s/i saved/is saved/`
`08:51.59`	`Mikma`	`snurre: that's one happy kid`
`08:53.03`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: well, test my method and let me know am i right or wrong`
`08:53.08`	`Mikma`	`that's the only solution :D`
`08:53.10`	`nevcairiel`	`will do`
`08:54.02`	`sbu`	`sigh svn is slow :/`
`08:54.08`	`Mikma`	`aye`
`08:54.32`	`nevcairiel`	`btw i have an uiscale of 0.78 and it looked fine yesterday`
`08:55.01`	`nevcairiel`	`.76 actually`
`08:55.07`	`dafire`	`the whole page is slow I think :)`
`08:55.15`	`nevcairiel`	`stupid server, get up :)`
`08:55.18`	`dafire`	`get database errors sometime`
`08:55.34`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: well did it look fine before or after you did reset the settings? :)`
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`08:56.51`	`nevcairiel`	`hm`
`08:56.56`	`nevcairiel`	`both i guess`
`08:57.40`	`Mikma`	`self:Hook("MainMenuBar_UpdateKeyRing")`
`08:57.42`	`Mikma`	`woooooot?`
`08:58.08`	`oxman`	`:p`
`08:59.27`	`Mikma`	`lol it's my own code`
`08:59.28`	`Mikma`	`haha`
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`09:02.07`	`oxman`	`hum fine`
`09:02.18`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2309.msg46647#msg46647`
`09:02.21`	`oxman`	`the tab for eu server is show when one server is here`
`09:02.21`	`oxman`	`:)`
`09:02.35`	`oxman`	`no french server ='(`
`09:04.34`	`sbu`	`pah, wait another 5 minutes :p`
`09:07.31`	`NA\|Liquidor`	`Temp. ip for wowace?`
`09:07.34`	`\|Pixel\|`	`n'oublie pas qu'on est toujours pas � l'heure d'hiver... c'est dur le matin pour les sysadmins :P`
`09:07.58`	`Mikma`	`[Ammo]: http://wow.reaktio.net/Mubble/`
`09:08.31`	`evl_`	`Anyone know a place to get detailed patchnotes?`
`09:08.37`	`evl_`	`Was wondering what's in todays patch`
`09:08.47`	`oxman`	`patey.net/1132`
`09:09.38`	`CIA-11`	`03mikma * r12107 10Bartender2_DruidBar/: Bartender2_DruidBar: externals fix`
`09:09.46`	`oxman`	`some french servers are up :)`
`09:09.51`	`oxman`	`not mine :'(`
`09:10.25`	`[Ammo]`	`Mikma: looks like a tablet style thing`
`09:10.34`	`[Ammo]`	`Mikma: and can easily be done with that`
`09:11.04`	`Mikma`	`[Ammo]: yeah i was hoping so. today because my server is down i will have a look at this more`
`09:11.40`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`09:11.40`	`[Ammo]`	`I was at work 6:30 this morning`
`09:11.44`	`[Ammo]`	`it's now 11:11`
`09:11.57`	`oxman`	`Ysondre up`
`09:11.58`	`oxman`	`:)`
`09:11.58`	`[Ammo]`	`I think I'll go drycode some more to PinPoint this afternoon`
`09:12.04`	`[Ammo]`	`look up some more icons for herbs`
`09:12.06`	`[Ammo]`	`and test it`
`09:12.13`	`Mikma`	`WOOOHOOHOO! Mac "enable all sound" fix!`
`09:12.20`	`oxman`	`:p`
`09:12.23`	`phyber`	`[Ammo]: I converted someone in my guild to PinPoint yesterday.`
`09:12.32`	`oxman`	`whats pinpoint ? :p`
`09:12.40`	`[Ammo]`	`rofl`
`09:12.42`	`[Ammo]`	`why?!`
`09:12.48`	`phyber`	`they were asking for a Gatherer replacement.`
`09:12.48`	`[Ammo]`	`it spams the fuck out of you when you zone`
`09:12.50`	`[Ammo]`	`rofl`
`09:12.52`	`phyber`	`they seem to like it.`
`09:12.58`	`[Ammo]`	`well it's pro and tiny`
`09:13.04`	`[Ammo]`	`but it's far from done and buggy as hell`
`09:13.12`	`[Ammo]`	`they downloaded the most recent SVN and it worked?`
`09:13.13`	`phyber`	`I was like "I've never tried this, but it should do what you want..."`
`09:13.29`	`phyber`	`yeah, I think so.`
`09:13.29`	`[Ammo]`	`haha`
`09:13.29`	`phyber`	`he came back and sounded happy`
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`09:13.30`	`[Ammo]`	`they're testing my drycoded shit`
`09:13.34`	`Mikma`	`hihi`
`09:13.42`	`phyber`	`cool :D`
`09:13.46`	`[Ammo]`	`if they hate the spam tell them to look for self:Print in WorldMap.lua`
`09:13.53`	`[Ammo]`	`in the Display/ folder`
`09:13.56`	`[Ammo]`	`and remove that line`
`09:14.01`	`[Ammo]`	`it's in UpdateMap() function`
`09:14.01`	`phyber`	`ok.`
`09:14.03`	`phyber`	`:)`
`09:14.07`	`dafire`	`wah .. they did not put in the mount thing ? I thought I could get my mount for 20g on my alt :)`
`09:14.10`	`[Ammo]`	`I have 30+ herbs in EPL mapped`
`09:14.24`	`[Ammo]`	`and euhm it's spammy when wiping in Naxx`
`09:14.57`	`phyber`	`that's ok. we only have BWL tonight = one-shot.`
`09:15.46`	`phyber`	`might try it on my priest if herbalism stuff works in it.`
`09:18.12`	`Pucmel`	`http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7449/wryy2pv1.jpg`
`09:18.37`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: so`
`09:18.44`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: i looged in with ui scale 1`
`09:18.50`	`nevcairiel`	`and everything looked alright`
`09:18.57`	`nevcairiel`	`just needs some fine tuning here and there`
`09:19.17`	`nevcairiel`	`i changed ui scale, everything was weird .. :D after reload, it looked fine again`
`09:19.29`	`Mikma`	`yeah that happens and it's sad`
`09:19.35`	`Mikma`	`"don't change scale while in game assclowns"`
`09:19.47`	`Mikma`	`but i had problems with the positions and uiscale`
`09:19.55`	`[Ammo]`	`what I do is: log in without addons, change scale, restart`
`09:19.56`	`Mikma`	`so`
`09:19.56`	`nevcairiel`	`but you cannot avoid that, after reload its alright again`
`09:19.58`	`[Ammo]`	`and start adding addons`
`09:20.10`	`[Ammo]`	`savest way`
`09:20.13`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: now set the uiscale to something else, /script BarDB = nil and /rl`
`09:20.16`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`does detox work in pvp as well? if i have another faction targeted, will it try to dispell them?`
`09:20.19`	`nevcairiel`	`i set one fixed scale way back and never changed it`
`09:20.38`	`oxman`	`80po the mount`
`09:20.39`	`oxman`	`:')`
`09:21.03`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: looks good`
`09:21.16`	`nevcairiel`	`just needs some tuning, as i said`
`09:21.24`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: ok. then change resolution, uiscale again and reset db and /rl`
`09:21.37`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: but the thing is...`
`09:21.47`	`Mikma`	`if you setpoint the defaultplaces and people don't move them`
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`09:22.08`	`Mikma`	`the layout will be correct after every uiscale/resolution change`
`09:22.26`	`nevcairiel`	`isnt that a good thing?`
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`09:22.59`	`Mikma`	`yes and that's the reason why i did use the setpoints if default place haven't been changed`
`09:23.18`	`Mikma`	`it was only a way to minimize the stupidity of users lol`
`09:23.42`	`Mikma`	`http://romirez.zidev.com/emo.gif`
`09:23.49`	`nevcairiel`	`i dunno, the default positions kinda suck, i think everybody is going to move it`
`09:24.00`	`Mikma`	`true that`
`09:24.07`	`Mikma`	`it was used my me for a long time`
`09:24.17`	`Mikma`	`that was before Dreamlayout + Pagemaster :D`
`09:24.19`	`nevcairiel`	`and noone should change their uiscale without knowing that he has to fix all addons`
`09:24.48`	`Iceroth`	`flight form is instant cast now <3`
`09:24.50`	`Mikma`	`hmm can we hook the setscale somehow and add a warning-message and yes/no confirmation box?`
`09:25.05`	`nevcairiel`	`Iceroth: yay`
`09:25.10`	`nevcairiel`	`seen it as well this morning`
`09:25.12`	`nevcairiel`	`rocks :)`
`09:25.18`	`Iceroth`	`aye`
`09:25.18`	`Mikma`	`"Are you sure you wan't to change ui-scale? You will have to move everything into their correct places!"`
`09:25.26`	`Mikma`	`[Yes] [No]`
`09:26.13`	`Iceroth`	`eh, stop protecting users from themselves :P`
`09:26.29`	`Mikma`	`Iceroth: it's always a good thing to protect addons agaisnt stupidity`
`09:26.39`	`Mikma`	`they blame addons if they fuck with uiscale`
`09:27.05`	`Iceroth`	`who expects every frame to align perfectly when ui scale is changed?`
`09:27.23`	`Mikma`	`Iceroth: noobs.`
`09:27.23`	`nevcairiel`	`we dont`
`09:27.27`	`nevcairiel`	`but stupid guys might`
`09:27.32`	`nevcairiel`	`hm`
`09:27.32`	`Iceroth`	`and besides, if you'd hook that function and some slider changes the scale, the message would pop 100 times`
`09:27.33`	`nevcairiel`	`fatality`
`09:27.40`	`nevcairiel`	`what addon did screw up now`
`09:27.42`	`Mikma`	`and that's the reason why i wan't to protect stupidity with BT2`
`09:28.06`	`Mikma`	`oh wait`
`09:28.12`	`Mikma`	`that means i have to stop coding it`
`09:28.14`	`Mikma`	`kk!`
`09:28.21`	`nevcairiel`	`haha`
`09:28.59`	`Mikma`	`hmm`
`09:29.07`	`Mikma`	`i think we should redo Pagemaster`
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`09:33.25`	`DarkImakuni`	`Yay! wowace.com is back! No! It's so slow!`
`09:34.26`	`oxman`	`:p`
`09:41.48`	`CIA-11`	`03nevcairiel * r12108 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua: Bartender2: load positions _after_ the scale was changed`
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`09:44.21`	`nevcairiel`	`at least i hope the resetting issues are gone now`
`09:44.31`	`nevcairiel`	`and if not, i finally blame acedb and only acedb`
`09:45.05`	`edv`	`can i move 'track mining' etc. icons with squeenix somehow?`
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`09:47.53`	`Mikma`	`edv: visor`
`09:48.43`	`[Ammo]`	`edv: get FuBar_Tracker`
`09:48.53`	`[Ammo]`	`and just hide it with that and use the nifty menu it ahs :)`
`09:48.59`	`[Ammo]`	`(it needs deuce'ing though`
`09:49.07`	`edv`	`okay thanks`
`09:56.44`	`[Ammo]`	`it's being hammered`
`09:56.49`	`DarkImakuni`	`wow it worked`
`09:57.21`	`nevcairiel`	`we shouldve gone with the developer-only-svn approach`
`09:57.25`	`nevcairiel`	`this is hilarious`
`10:01.23`	`AxiumKT`	`must. download. mods. spamming. servers. blarg.`
`10:02.05`	`Mikma`	`maia should come online`
`10:02.17`	`Mikma`	`i wanna poke him with SE-aura-2.0 ;)`
`10:04.18`	`DarkImakuni`	`damn non-devs`
`10:04.43`	`DarkImakuni`	`they only use the SVN as an auto-update thingie`
`10:04.58`	`Mikma`	`"/target maia /poke /point http://www.wowace.com/svn/wowace/trunk/SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/"`
`10:05.04`	`Mikma`	`ain't that a good reply for him?`
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`10:06.37`	`DarkImakuni`	`~seen Kemayo`
`10:06.51`	`purl`	`kemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: ''cause I like that. :-P'.`
`10:07.02`	`DarkImakuni`	`bah`
`10:07.06`	`DarkImakuni`	`damn idling`
`10:07.45`	`Mikma`	`::: idle : 0 days 6 hours 6 mins 24 secs [signon: Sun Sep 24 01:55:11 2006]`
`10:08.17`	`phyber`	`isthe German for "Soul Bag" "Seelenbeutel" or "Seelentasche" ?`
`10:08.41`	`phyber`	`someone wrote the german locale for BagFu for me, but some other German guy is complaining`
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`10:09.06`	`wereHamster`	`is there a CIA-guide?`
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`10:09.28`	`phyber`	`Stan Smith. ask nicely, he'll be your CIA tour guide.`
`10:09.37`	`dafire`	`phyber: I think you can check translations of items in the wowguru.com database`
`10:09.42`	`Mikma`	`wereHamster: http://www.albionmonitor.com/9702a/ciaguide.html`
`10:09.57`	`phyber`	`dafire: cool. didn't know about that.`
`10:11.01`	`sbu`	`phyber: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=21340`
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`10:11.38`	`phyber`	`ahh. I think it's "Soul Pouch" vs. "Soul Bag"`
`10:11.51`	`sbu`	`hm there is no soul bag? :o`
`10:11.59`	`phyber`	`so the guy complaining is probably correct. the current translation is for "Soul Pouch" but the English says Soul Bag :)`
`10:12.00`	`dafire`	`there is no spoon`
`10:12.18`	`phyber`	`sbu: yeah, there isn't, but the toggle is for "Soul Bags" in BagFu`
`10:12.52`	`dafire`	`ah.. there is some kind of "category"`
`10:13.13`	`sbu`	`but 'bag' is 'beutel' and 'tasche' ;o`
`10:13.16`	`dafire`	`the english one is "Container" "Soul Bag"`
`10:13.35`	`nevcairiel`	`just use allakhazam, it has translations.`
`10:13.42`	`dafire`	`the german is "Container" "Seelentasche"`
`10:13.43`	`sbu`	`abd 'pouch' is only 'beutel'`
`10:13.53`	`dafire`	`look at the tooltip on`
`10:13.53`	`dafire`	`http://de.wowguru.com/db/items/seelenbeutel-id21340/`
`10:14.10`	`sbu`	`ah`
`10:14.20`	`AxiumKT`	`hurray for 8g av mounts ^^`
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`10:14.33`	`nevcairiel`	`av mounts are that cheap now?`
`10:14.34`	`sbu`	`AxiumKT: woot?`
`10:14.34`	`nevcairiel`	`really?`
`10:14.37`	`AxiumKT`	`10g + discounts`
`10:14.38`	`dafire`	`i thought the mount thing didn't get in ?`
`10:14.42`	`AxiumKT`	`nope it's in`
`10:14.43`	`nevcairiel`	`it did get in`
`10:14.43`	`phyber`	`sbu: ah, well I've changed it to tasche now. since it also matches what I have for Enchanting Bag, etc.`
`10:14.43`	`sbu`	`and what riding skill for AV?`
`10:14.47`	`AxiumKT`	`150`
`10:14.56`	`sbu`	`uhm yep - but that means`
`10:14.58`	`dafire`	`you have to learn epic riding for it :)`
`10:14.58`	`nevcairiel`	`damn, i need to get av exalted`
`10:15.01`	`sbu`	`if you have already an epic mount`
`10:15.07`	`AxiumKT`	`but 8g to ride a ram around? that's damn hawt`
`10:15.07`	`sbu`	`AV is for free?`
`10:15.19`	`AxiumKT`	`you still have to pay 10g for the mount`
`10:15.27`	`sbu`	`but whats strange`
`10:15.29`	`nevcairiel`	`10g is for free`
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`10:15.36`	`AxiumKT`	`but if you already have an epic mount you get grandfather claused into having 150 riding skill`
`10:15.38`	`sbu`	`nevcairiel: yap :o`
`10:15.45`	`sbu`	`hmhm nice`
`10:15.48`	`sbu`	`whats with AQ mounts?`
`10:15.50`	`dafire`	`so is it in or not ? ;)`
`10:16.00`	`nevcairiel`	`it is in`
`10:16.02`	`sbu`	`if i have only aq mount i need also riding skill 150?`
`10:16.12`	`sbu`	`so if i have no epic and only aq - im already at 150?`
`10:16.14`	`dafire`	`no .. aq mounts is 75`
`10:16.18`	`AxiumKT`	`nope`
`10:16.18`	`nevcairiel`	`aq mounts requite 75`
`10:16.18`	`sbu`	`oh... k :o`
`10:16.20`	`AxiumKT`	`need the skill`
`10:16.25`	`CIA-11`	`03phyber * r12109 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-deDE.lua:`
`10:16.25`	`CIA-11`	`BagFu:`
`10:16.25`	`CIA-11`	`- Fix German translation of Soul Bag.`
`10:16.31`	`AxiumKT`	`i just picked up my mount though :PO`
`10:16.34`	`sbu`	`so no cheap mount for my girlfriend ;o`
`10:16.35`	`DarkImakuni`	`~seen cladhaire`
`10:16.43`	`purl`	`cladhaire <n=jnwhiteh@12.107.199.130> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 6h 19m 44s ago, saying: 'night =)'.`
`10:16.43`	`AxiumKT`	`humans on a ram = win`
`10:16.48`	`sbu`	`(she's lvl 60, w/ no epic mount but aq mount)`
`10:17.00`	`sbu`	`uhm ok - but then something else :p`
`10:17.17`	`sbu`	`if you were rank 11 and got all 4 mounts for 80g`
`10:17.21`	`Mikma`	`sbu: aq as gateopen mount? D;`
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`10:17.45`	`sbu`	`you are now able to ride them without being exalted with all fractions? (undead in thunderbluff e.g.)`
`10:17.54`	`sbu`	`Mikma: no :p`
`10:18.11`	`sbu`	`instance mount`
`10:18.24`	`AxiumKT`	`you have to be exalted to buy another faction's mount`
`10:18.25`	`dafire`	`you still need reputation to get other cities mounts`
`10:18.26`	`AxiumKT`	`but they're still cheap`
`10:18.32`	`sbu`	`yah correct, you have to GET them`
`10:18.41`	`sbu`	`but if you already have them because of rank 11`
`10:18.59`	`nevcairiel`	`yes you can ride the rank11 now.`
`10:19.14`	`sbu`	`heh...`
`10:19.36`	`sbu`	`so lucky ones who made rank 11 and bought all mounts`
`10:19.50`	`Mikma`	`god damn i hope my ridingskill for my horse will stay`
`10:19.57`	`Mikma`	`i don't wan't to buy it with 900g`
`10:20.02`	`sbu`	`heh.. :o`
`10:20.15`	`Mikma`	`(nelf with horse)`
`10:20.24`	`dafire`	`i think the greatest thing is that warlocks get the skill for their mount .)`
`10:20.29`	`nevcairiel`	`there is one generic riding skill`
`10:20.35`	`nevcairiel`	`which everyone gets with an epic mount`
`10:20.42`	`nevcairiel`	`(nelf on horse sucks)`
`10:20.54`	`nevcairiel`	`dafire: you sure about that?`
`10:21.02`	`sbu`	`does it just jmp from 75 to 150 when you buy epic riding or do you have to 'skill' it (like alchemy etc.)? :o`
`10:21.10`	`nevcairiel`	`it jumps`
`10:21.14`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: horse is pretty on nelf`
`10:21.14`	`sbu`	`k`
`10:21.14`	`sbu`	`:)`
`10:21.19`	`dafire`	`nevcairiel: was the last I heard.. but I try to log in my alt and check ;)`
`10:21.35`	`nevcairiel`	`i think they can ride their summoned mount without any skill`
`10:21.37`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: http://wow.reaktio.net/xplo/xplo2.jpg`
`10:21.38`	`nevcairiel`	`but not any other`
`10:22.10`	`dafire`	`then they would have to learn normal - epic - flightmount for bc .. that would be expensive ;)`
`10:22.17`	`nevcairiel`	`sucks to be them`
`10:22.18`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`10:22.35`	`sbu`	`sigh flightmount...`
`10:22.36`	`dafire`	`logging in right now :9`
`10:22.48`	`nevcairiel`	`mine is only 54, but it should have the 75 skill then.`
`10:22.52`	`nevcairiel`	`or shouldnt`
`10:22.58`	`sbu`	`im at 70g atm, no clue how to buy that riding skill :p`
`10:23.04`	`nevcairiel`	`bah. cheat. he got 75`
`10:23.04`	`dafire`	`he has riding 150 :)`
`10:23.20`	`nevcairiel`	`i wonder if new warlocks get the skill with doing the quest`
`10:23.31`	`dafire`	`that's a good question :)`
`10:23.31`	`nevcairiel`	`that would certainly suck, its cheaper :s`
`10:24.03`	`sbu`	`and my server is still down :/`
`10:24.06`	`dafire`	`i think warlocks should get an easy quest with a big flying daemon in outlands :)`
`10:24.17`	`nevcairiel`	`no thank you.`
`10:24.18`	`Iceroth`	`meh, 1.12.1 corrupted some file :s`
`10:24.27`	`\|Pixel\|`	`dafire: word`
`10:24.30`	`sbu`	`dafire: easy but 2000g sounds fair ;p`
`10:24.33`	`nevcairiel`	`but at least flying form is free now`
`10:24.33`	`Iceroth`	`repair.exe is cool though`
`10:24.34`	`nevcairiel`	`eh`
`10:24.36`	`nevcairiel`	`instant.`
`10:24.44`	`CIA-11`	`03nevcairiel * r12110 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: added a tooltip hint so the title doesnt get cut-off`
`10:25.18`	`sbu`	`mh - why is svn that slow? :/`
`10:25.24`	`nevcairiel`	`because its hammerd.`
`10:25.39`	`DarkImakuni`	`non-devs hammering it`
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`10:26.25`	`dafire`	`hmm.. i wonder if it would work better with svnserve instead using apache for everything`
`10:27.01`	`PX_Hakker`	`dunno I think it's more in the way of site not working yet ;)`
`10:27.02`	`phyber`	`I asked that a while ago.`
`10:27.18`	`Mikma`	`screw the nondevs! ;)`
`10:27.29`	`dafire`	`get nondevs out of wow ;)`
`10:27.36`	`nevcairiel`	`its because all svn hammering goes through the same apache as the website`
`10:27.41`	`nevcairiel`	`so its slow.`
`10:28.04`	`PX_Hakker`	`it's a problem you all created yourself`
`10:28.13`	`Mikma`	`they should get a different apache for svn :)`
`10:28.19`	`nevcairiel`	`altho changing that now would certainly suck, i just updated the externals yesterday`
`10:28.27`	`dafire`	`they should drop apache for svn ;)`
`10:28.51`	`PX_Hakker`	`devvers only point to svn saying go get it there which only promoted non devvers to hammer svn ;)`
`10:29.27`	`nevcairiel`	`the problem are people who constantly checkout the whole repo because they dont know shit about svn`
`10:30.14`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`svn for dummies go!`
`10:30.17`	`PX_Hakker`	`because you all point to svn.wowace.com/root instead of svn.wowace.com/files`
`10:31.01`	`Mikma`	`well atleast i am required to enter my account and password when i try to browse the /wowace/trunk`
`10:31.03`	`DarkImakuni`	`whats a good svn client for macs?`
`10:31.14`	`Mikma`	`DarkImakuni: svn commandprompt`
`10:31.25`	`AxiumKT`	`Mikma: i agree there`
`10:31.32`	`AxiumKT`	`using svn guis makes the baby jesus cry`
`10:31.41`	`Mikma`	`i use the commandprompt now with linux and osx`
`10:31.43`	`phyber`	`PX_Hakker: /files/ has only existed for a few weeks. I think most (everyone?) points to /files now`
`10:31.50`	`AxiumKT`	`there is svnx`
`10:31.55`	`Mikma`	`i was using gui before and i really crying about it all day long in here`
`10:31.59`	`AxiumKT`	`which is an ok mac client`
`10:32.03`	`AxiumKT`	`but.. it's just so clunky`
`10:32.04`	`Mikma`	`AxiumKT: and subcommander`
`10:32.08`	`AxiumKT`	`yeah`
`10:32.14`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`IDK, I used to be an AIX admin and had my fair share of command line. I enjoy guis now`
`10:32.20`	`Mikma`	`but just get fink and use apt-get install svn`
`10:32.21`	`sbu`	`dafire: whats svnserve?`
`10:32.32`	`sbu`	`standalone svn server? without apache/mod_dav?`
`10:32.36`	`AxiumKT`	`haha bird`
`10:32.44`	`phyber`	`sbu: yeah. svn://wibble/wobble`
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`10:35.04`	`Mikma`	`is there a svnserve on wowace.com?`
`10:35.30`	`phyber`	`nope.`
`10:35.35`	`Mikma`	`boo`
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`10:37.11`	`Mikma`	`now the whole server died.`
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`10:41.33`	`DarkImakuni`	`still up for me, just very slow`
`10:43.56`	`nevcairiel`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg5_mlQOsUQ`
`10:44.28`	`Mikma`	`steven seagulllll`
`10:44.52`	`DarkImakuni`	`Mikma: where can I find svn commandprompt or is it part of MacOS X?`
`10:45.16`	`Mikma`	`DarkImakuni: what version of os x?`
`10:45.24`	`AxiumKT`	`steven seagulllllll`
`10:45.33`	`DarkImakuni`	`Leopard`
`10:45.37`	`AxiumKT`	`eek`
`10:45.42`	`Mikma`	`that's like 10.4 or something?`
`10:45.47`	`DarkImakuni`	`10.5`
`10:45.48`	`Mikma`	`can't remember the stupid names :D`
`10:45.50`	`AxiumKT`	`leopard is 10.5`
`10:45.52`	`DarkImakuni`	`10.4 is Tiger`
`10:45.55`	`AxiumKT`	`which hasn't been released :P`
`10:45.57`	`AxiumKT`	`anyways`
`10:46.03`	`AxiumKT`	`no you need to fink it`
`10:46.06`	`DarkImakuni`	`I plan to get a Mac when 10.5 is released`
`10:46.12`	`Mikma`	`DarkImakuni: http://fink.sourceforge.net/download/index.php?phpLang=en`
`10:46.13`	`nevcairiel`	`haha`
`10:46.23`	`DarkImakuni`	`screw Windows`
`10:46.25`	`AxiumKT`	`or there are some people who maintain a .dmg svn install`
`10:46.25`	`nevcairiel`	`DarkImakuni is planning for the future`
`10:46.32`	`Mikma`	`get that one and after installing it use: apt-get install svn`
`10:46.34`	`DarkImakuni`	`indeed nev`
`10:46.39`	`Mikma`	`then you can locate the svn in /sw/bin`
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`10:47.26`	`nevcairiel`	`yay debian syntax`
`10:47.45`	`AxiumKT`	`DarkImakuni: screw Windows`
`10:47.48`	`AxiumKT`	`agreed`
`10:47.55`	`AxiumKT`	`but that's a religious debate :P`
`10:48.04`	`nevcairiel`	`it is`
`10:48.14`	`DarkImakuni`	`MacOS X > Windows`
`10:49.16`	`AxiumKT`	`but yes osx is pure buttered sex`
`10:49.27`	`nevcairiel`	`i wouldnt have any idea where to start when buying a mac, hardware vise and such`
`10:49.42`	`AxiumKT`	`same hardware as pc's really /shrg`
`10:49.51`	`DarkImakuni`	`I wanna get an iMac`
`10:50.04`	`nevcairiel`	`so i could basicly install mac os x on my default pc here ?`
`10:50.05`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`10:50.06`	`AxiumKT`	`<-- 2x 3.0 GHz Intel dual-core xeons, ATI x1900 graphics card, 2gigs of FB ram`
`10:50.15`	`AxiumKT`	`on my mac`
`10:50.26`	`AxiumKT`	`nope :P`
`10:50.29`	`AxiumKT`	`but you can run windows on macs`
`10:50.37`	`AxiumKT`	`for the masochists`
`10:50.44`	`nevcairiel`	`why doesnt it work the other way around?`
`10:50.51`	`nevcairiel`	`stupid apple, wants to sell their stuff.`
`10:51.15`	`AxiumKT`	`ouch!`
`10:51.34`	`DarkImakuni`	`AxiumKT: sweet system`
`10:51.45`	`AxiumKT`	`doesn't work the other way around b/c apple controls their inner workings and windows makes theirs open so it'll run on anything that will pay them $`
`10:51.46`	`Mikma`	`that's liek good for wow!!11`
`10:51.51`	`AxiumKT`	`oh gawd`
`10:51.53`	`AxiumKT`	`i was on a laptop`
`10:51.54`	`AxiumKT`	`before`
`10:51.55`	`AxiumKT`	`lol`
`10:51.59`	`AxiumKT`	`raiding at like 6fps`
`10:52.03`	`Mikma`	`ya i know`
`10:52.09`	`Mikma`	`i still use my iBook 12" to play wow :)`
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`10:52.32`	`nevcairiel`	`Steve Jobs might not approve, but Apple's latest operating system can be installed on any x86 hardware. How well does it function? Read our preliminary labs test to find out.`
`10:52.45`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: well, it can't`
`10:52.53`	`AxiumKT`	`1920x1200 resolution, all graphic settings completely maxed, I average 60-100fps, 40-80 in raids and IF, spikes upwards of 200fps in unpopulated areas`
`10:52.55`	`Mikma`	`if you install the HACKED version you van`
`10:52.56`	`nevcairiel`	`leopard has a x86 edition.`
`10:53.01`	`Mikma`	`s/van/can/`
`10:53.12`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: it's not latest, yet`
`10:53.28`	`nevcairiel`	`its a zdnet article, i dont think they talk about a hacked version`
`10:53.37`	`AxiumKT`	`when i first booted it up with default graphics settings in the gnome starting area (b/c my realm was down at the time and i wanted to test it out) i had 440 fps lol`
`10:54.07`	`AxiumKT`	`system absolutely screams--and with them enabling multi-threaded opengl in the next major update of WoW it's gonna be that much better`
`10:54.07`	`AxiumKT`	`can't wait`
`10:54.43`	`Mikma`	`AxiumKT: install cosmos and you get like 15fps`
`10:54.47`	`AxiumKT`	`haha`
`10:54.50`	`AxiumKT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:54.53`	`AxiumKT`	`that's w/ RDX running too`
`10:54.59`	`AxiumKT`	`can't wait to get rid of that crap`
`10:55.25`	`Mikma`	`OzRaid does look like RDX, doesn't it? :D`
`10:55.32`	`oxman`	`If i do : local a = { ["b"] = function (broum) return "tutu"..broum end, ["c"] = function(broum) return a["b"](broum) end}`
`10:55.35`	`nevcairiel`	`they actually plan to do multi-threaded opengl?`
`10:55.39`	`AxiumKT`	`worse, i'd submit`
`10:55.43`	`oxman`	`that not work because a["b"] isn't define in ["c]`
`10:55.44`	`oxman`	`that not work because a["b"] isn't define in ["c"]`
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`10:55.47`	`oxman`	`how i can do that ?`
`10:55.58`	`AxiumKT`	`it's in the most recent intel build of OSX 10.4`
`10:56.00`	`AxiumKT`	`10.4.8`
`10:56.05`	`AxiumKT`	`that was shipped w/ the mac pros`
`10:56.06`	`oxman`	`any solution ?`
`10:56.11`	`snurre`	`grinding dreamfoil sucks`
`10:56.17`	`nevcairiel`	`i want that for x86.`
`10:56.24`	`AxiumKT`	`wow support said they're enabling it in the next major update of wow`
`10:56.27`	`AxiumKT`	`1.13 or 2.0`
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`10:56.33`	`nevcairiel`	`there wont be 1.13`
`10:56.38`	`AxiumKT`	`yeah doubt there will be`
`10:56.45`	`nevcairiel`	`anyway, wow should enable directx10 usage`
`10:56.47`	`snurre`	`1.13 is cancelled`
`10:57.07`	`snurre`	`next patch will be 2.0`
`10:57.10`	`oxman`	`If i do : local a = { ["b"] = function (broum) return "tutu"..broum end, ["c"] = function(broum) return a["b"](broum) end}`
`10:57.13`	`oxman`	`that not work because a["b"] isn't define in ["c"]`
`10:57.16`	`oxman`	`how i can do that ?`
`10:57.46`	`AxiumKT`	`you can't create circular dependancies in most languages`
`10:57.55`	`nevcairiel`	`try this, but not sure`
`10:58.12`	`nevcairiel`	`this["b"] i mean`
`10:58.22`	`nevcairiel`	`no idea if it works tho`
`10:59.14`	`krka`	`here's what you do`
`10:59.33`	`krka`	`local a = {["b"] = function (broum) return "tutu"..broum end} a.c = function(broum) Brand`
`10:59.36`	`krka`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:00.07`	`DarkImakuni`	`WTB permission to commit a ToFu update`
`11:00.21`	`nevcairiel`	`does anyone know if creative released vista drivers yet?`
`11:00.37`	`JoshBorke`	`what krka said, define a.c after defining a. a doesn't exist when defining the a.c function`
`11:01.12`	`CIA-11`	`03hshh * r12111 10BabbleLib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Babble-Boss: fix "Anub'Rekhan" Simplified Chinese locale`
`11:01.26`	`oxman`	`I don't understand :p`
`11:01.57`	`oxman`	`I understand that a.b don't exist in c yet because the definition isn't finish`
`11:02.09`	`oxman`	`but b exist because the definition is before c`
`11:02.13`	`Wobin`	`define the function a.c() after you've finished defining a the first time`
`11:02.15`	`oxman`	`but the question is : how i can access b ?`
`11:02.23`	`oxman`	`I don't want do that`
`11:02.32`	`Wobin`	`why not?`
`11:02.42`	`oxman`	`don't want :)`
`11:02.46`	`Wobin`	`ah`
`11:02.57`	`Wobin`	`what exactly are you trying to do anyway?`
`11:03.05`	`oxman`	`nothing :p`
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`11:03.26`	`oxman`	`(too hard to explain :p)`
`11:03.47`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: paste me the link for the x86 osx`
`11:04.56`	`[Insom]Farns`	`So.. Bartender2.. Can I change the highlighting for OOR/OOM?`
`11:05.09`	`JoshBorke`	`oxman: a.b doesn't exist at the time of defining a.c`
`11:05.18`	`JoshBorke`	`oxman: because a doesn't exist`
`11:05.36`	`oxman`	`i know`
`11:05.38`	`oxman`	`but b exist`
`11:05.38`	`oxman`	`:p`
`11:06.25`	`JoshBorke`	`maybe you could try setting a meta table that adds b to another table that is already defined and when a.c tries to access a.b during the definition it pulls the function from the other table? pulling stuff out of my butt here :-D`
`11:06.35`	`oxman`	`i will use the solution of Wobin :)`
`11:06.38`	`oxman`	`its more easy and clean`
`11:06.40`	`evl_`	`Can anyone recommend an accurate damage meters mod?`
`11:06.58`	`phyber`	`[Insom]Farns: I don't think there is a specific Bartender module for that. but I think most people here use RedRange`
`11:07.06`	`phyber`	`and OOM stuff gets made darker anyway`
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`11:07.40`	`phyber`	`although, I don't think it would be too difficult to make a module where you could customise the colours of those things for BT2`
`11:08.20`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5320-1-exoraidsetup.html`
`11:08.23`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`that is really cool`
`11:08.40`	`[Insom]Farns`	phyber: At the moment all it does is put up a little dash '`' because I haven't bound stuff to my range check buttons.
`11:10.07`	`Korrigan`	`!trunk FuBar_tcgTradeskills`
`11:10.41`	`SVNBot`	`You can already find the latest revision of FuBar_tcgTradeskills at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/FuBar_tcgTradeskills/`
`11:10.47`	`phyber`	`!trunk ManaPerc`
`11:11.45`	`phyber`	`!notes ManaPerc`
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`11:12.31`	`Mikma`	`http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/5169460_410_uu.jpg`
`11:12.39`	`Mikma`	`our president rocks (the shemale on left)`
`11:12.58`	`Wobin`	`"That's a MAN, baby!"`
`11:14.21`	`Mikma`	`Wobin: "you'd like that?!?"`
`11:14.48`	`Wobin`	`Go watch more Austin Powers =P`
`11:14.53`	`Korrigan`	`!trunk FuBar_CorkFu`
`11:15.21`	`DarkImakuni`	`I shall call him... 'Mini Me'!`
`11:15.23`	`Mikma`	`Wobin: yaya`
`11:15.47`	`Mikma`	`Wobin: wasn't it "i'm from holland. iscn't that weird?"`
`11:16.02`	`Mikma`	`Wobin: and my favorite: "Toight like a toiger"`
`11:16.24`	`Wobin`	`sigh`
`11:16.27`	`Wobin`	`rolling restarts`
`11:16.32`	`Wobin`	`Maybe I should just go to bed`
`11:16.35`	`SVNBot`	`The latest revision of ManaPerc is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/ManaPerc/. The TOC Wiki data has been updated.`
`11:16.47`	`Wobin`	`wow. 5 minutes`
`11:17.01`	`Korrigan`	`SNVBot is kind of... slow right now`
`11:17.06`	`phyber`	`!notes ManaPerc`
`11:17.26`	`phyber`	`yeah.`
`11:17.31`	`dafire`	`the bot was changed that it looks more like a blizzard thing ;9`
`11:18.07`	`phyber`	`it could be made to look like it had queues if the script would fork() when doing things.`
`11:18.53`	`SVNBot`	`ManaPerc Notes: Shows mana usage as a percentage in a spells tooltip. \|\| http://www.wowace.com/index.php/TOC_Data/ManaPerc`
`11:18.56`	`SVNBot`	`The latest revision of FuBar_CorkFu is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/FuBar_CorkFu/`
`11:18.59`	`SVNBot`	`ManaPerc Notes: Shows mana usage as a percentage in a spells tooltip. \|\| http://www.wowace.com/index.php/TOC_Data/ManaPerc`
`11:19.30`	`Wobin`	`wow`
`11:19.31`	`Wobin`	`slow svn`
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`11:19.45`	`Wobin`	`perhaps I should go on hiatus for a week =P`
`11:20.09`	`phyber`	`Wobin: and blame SVN lag for not updating your mods? :p`
`11:20.09`	`Wobin`	`or until the svn gets locked back down to developers =P`
`11:20.39`	`Wobin`	`well, I can't update my mods if every svn takes 10 minutes`
`11:20.50`	`phyber`	`yeah :/`
`11:21.08`	`Wobin`	`anyway, going to get some fewd`
`11:22.28`	`Kaelten`	`more ram is on the horizon guys`
`11:22.33`	`Kaelten`	`I'm looking into it`
`11:23.11`	`[Ammo]`	`anyone know where I could get a full list of herbs that can be herbed in WoW`
`11:23.15`	`JoshBorke`	`KaeltenAway: lol :-)`
`11:23.26`	`*** join/#wowace Azix (n=Azix@host213-123-205-178.in-addr.btopenworld.com)`
`11:23.46`	`KaeltenAway`	`JoshBorke: hehe, its our major bottle neck, we do way too many swaps`
`11:23.56`	`phyber`	`sounds like a super hero when he does that. "More RAM is coming..... KAELTEN AWAYYYYYYYY!!!"`
`11:24.08`	`JoshBorke`	`yea. no way of knowing until the system got put in place :-D`
`11:24.12`	`KaeltenAway`	`we had to limit the connections to around 70`
`11:24.16`	`KaeltenAway`	`to keep it stable`
`11:24.23`	`KaeltenAway`	`265 connections crashed it hard`
`11:24.28`	`JoshBorke`	`lol, wow`
`11:24.46`	`KaeltenAway`	`our cpu usage is next to nothing but ram usage is always maxed`
`11:24.53`	`JoshBorke`	`you should definitely use some sort of monitoring+graphing so you can show everyone exactly what they do to your poor server`
`11:24.56`	`phyber`	`KaeltenAway: are the server specs listed anywhere? (OOI)`
`11:24.58`	`Mikma`	`KaeltenAway: limit the svn to devs only plz plx ply`
`11:25.29`	`Mikma`	`let the fucknuts use /files`
`11:25.48`	`phyber`	`Bah, too many questions. now Kael has crashed too.`
`11:27.00`	`JoshBorke`	`ckknight: AceComm question: what happens if someone DC's in the middle of sending a 'largish' message (one that has to be split up)?`
`11:27.31`	`KaeltenAway`	`Mikma: beleive it or not its not the svn`
`11:27.38`	`Mikma`	`KaeltenAway: oh, what then?`
`11:27.43`	`KaeltenAway`	`its apache`
`11:27.48`	`Wobin`	`=(`
`11:27.50`	`Wobin`	`failed =(`
`11:27.55`	`Mikma`	`what's wrong with it?`
`11:27.56`	`phyber`	`Lighttpd!`
`11:28.00`	`Mikma`	`have you guys borked it`
`11:28.06`	`Wobin`	`it got the custer knocked out of it`
`11:28.07`	`KaeltenAway`	`Mikma: nope, don't think so`
`11:28.09`	`JoshBorke`	`svn module into apache?`
`11:28.09`	`DarkImakuni`	`everything from wowace.com gets sent through the apache, the site, the forums, the svn...`
`11:28.21`	`Mikma`	`hit the motherboard with tazer and yell "FRY PIGGIE!"`
`11:28.29`	`DarkImakuni`	`lol`
`11:28.29`	`Wobin`	`squeal`
`11:28.38`	`tumetom`	`lighthttp`
`11:29.18`	`KaeltenAway`	`really the issue is there are about 75 apache processes going all the time`
`11:29.47`	`tumetom`	`KaeltenAway why apache?`
`11:29.52`	`Mikma`	`might get abit heavy yeah`
`11:30.00`	`Mikma`	`tumetom: apt-get install apache`
`11:30.03`	`Mikma`	`done :D`
`11:30.14`	`KaeltenAway`	`tume mod_dav`
`11:31.44`	`Mikma`	`KaeltenAway: but the thing is... why are there so many hits on the apache, eventho there ain't messages going on the forums`
`11:32.17`	`JoshBorke`	`Mikma: http://svn.wowace.com goes through apache`
`11:32.39`	`Mikma`	`<1427> <@KaeltenAway> Mikma: beleive it or not its not the svn`
`11:32.45`	`Mikma`	`lol :P it is svn then ;)`
`11:34.09`	`Health`	`Can't you set max apache processes?`
`11:34.16`	`Mikma`	`yes you can`
`11:34.17`	`dafire`	`KaeltenAway: thought about using svnserve ? :)`
`11:34.44`	`JoshBorke`	`KaeltenAway: lighttpd might be an option for something like wowace where you serve a lot of the same content. it can cache the external calls i'm betting`
`11:35.05`	`Mikma`	`KaeltenAway: and, + ^^^^^ svnserve`
`11:35.36`	`phyber`	`most of the wowace content is dynamic though. forums and wiki.`
`11:35.43`	`oxman`	`lighttpd is better.`
`11:36.22`	`dafire`	`lighttpd don't have the svn integration :)`
`11:36.27`	`Mikma`	`good`
`11:36.32`	`Mikma`	`then let's use svnserve`
`11:36.34`	`oxman`	`with static, lighttpd is very very better, with php lighttpd is better`
`11:36.46`	`JoshBorke`	`just proxy the svn integration over to apache`
`11:36.54`	`oxman`	`dafire so use php application for svn`
`11:37.18`	`phyber`	`... what?`
`11:37.40`	`Mikma`	`~literal kaelten`
`11:37.47`	`purl`	`"kaelten" is "(awsome\|spilling be champien\|breaker of forums)"`
`11:38.01`	`tumetom`	`oxman is there a svn lib for php?`
`11:38.02`	`phyber`	`"spilling be champien"`
`11:38.03`	`phyber`	`haha`
`11:38.07`	`tumetom`	`I don't think so`
`11:38.07`	`dafire`	`some php applications don't work well without mod_php I think ..`
`11:38.24`	`dafire`	`there are differences in session management.. .)`
`11:38.27`	`Mikma`	`purl: no, kaelten is (awsome\|spilling be champien\|breaker of forums\|More RAM is coming..... KAELTEN AWAYYYYYYYY!!!)`
`11:38.29`	`purl`	`okay, Mikma`
`11:38.40`	`phyber`	`:D`
`11:38.47`	`oxman`	`it must exist tumetom`
`11:38.59`	`oxman`	`if not php, so cgi`
`11:39.20`	`Mikma`	`purl: assclown is <reply> $lastspeaker: you`
`11:39.21`	`purl`	`...but assclown is already something else...`
`11:39.25`	`Mikma`	`omg!`
`11:39.28`	`Mikma`	`~assclown`
`11:39.29`	`purl`	`from memory, assclown is http://mercurymustang.tripod.com/224d1f60.jpg`
`11:39.29`	`tumetom`	`I googled ... but could not find anything`
`11:39.29`	`phyber`	`going to have to photoshop something with superman, a stick of ram and a big K on his chest.`
`11:39.33`	`axxo`	`suggestion cgi when trying to increase performance?`
`11:39.44`	`oxman`	`.`
`11:39.57`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`11:40.00`	`Wobin`	`classy assclown`
`11:40.12`	`Wobin`	`I like yours better`
`11:40.33`	`Mikma`	`home calls!`
`11:40.51`	`Wobin`	`purl no, assclown is <reply> $lastspeaker: you.`
`11:40.53`	`purl`	`okay, Wobin`
`11:41.14`	`phyber`	`purl: rofl is http://arpa.org/mayo.jpg`
`11:41.15`	`purl`	`...but rofl is already something else...`
`11:41.20`	`phyber`	`~rofl`
`11:41.22`	`purl`	`somebody said rofl was Roll Over Fat Lesbian. rolling on the floor laughing. Or see rocl.`
`11:41.33`	`dafire`	`lighttpd would increase performance for serving the files area ... but I don't think you get much advantages for php .. if you use an php accelerator like apc e.g.`
`11:42.10`	`JoshBorke`	`i doubt they are using a php accelerator`
`11:42.17`	`evl_`	`lighttpd is pretty nice for php`
`11:42.21`	`oxman`	`evl_ +1`
`11:42.27`	`oxman`	`i repeat : with static, lighttpd is very very better, with php lighttpd is better`
`11:42.36`	`Wobin`	`~rocl`
`11:42.59`	`evl_`	`in my general opinion, use lighttpd whenever you don't need the more complicated features that Apache provide`
`11:43.10`	`dafire`	`oxman: I use both :9`
`11:43.52`	`dafire`	`mediawiki can use special features of apc like using the cache functions for shared memory`
`11:44.31`	`DarkImakuni`	`purl: where's my lunch?`
`11:44.54`	`Neebler`	`wooooo`
`11:45.04`	`Neebler`	`http://mageknight.namco.com/main.html just came out`
`11:45.08`	`Neebler`	`looks interesting`
`11:45.12`	`sbu`	`gnaaaaaaaaah`
`11:45.27`	`sbu`	`extended maintenance`
`11:46.28`	`DarkImakuni`	`~comfort sbu`
`11:46.30`	`purl`	`There, there, sbu. It's OK. I'm here for you.`
`11:46.30`	`evl_`	`lol`
`11:46.41`	`evl_`	`I did TortoiseSVN Update on 15 addons, that was 30 minutes ago`
`11:46.44`	`*** join/#wowace wereHamster (n=wereHams@gw.ptr-62-65-141-13.customer.ch.netstream.com)`
`11:46.46`	`evl_`	`The window has yet to update`
`11:46.48`	`evl_`	`SVN slow? :)`
`11:47.18`	`DarkImakuni`	`evl_: only slightly :P`
`11:47.43`	`DarkImakuni`	`are you using the correct address?`
`11:48.28`	`evl_`	`I don't know, waht's the correct address`
`11:49.38`	`sbu`	`well, if it's downloading already then its the correct address ;p`
`11:49.48`	`evl_`	`oh nvm`
`11:49.57`	`evl_`	`aaaagh, relocate 12345 addons, yay`
`11:49.59`	`wereHamster`	`what does "PROPFIND of '/root': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://svn.wowace.com)" mean?`
`11:50.06`	`oxman`	`same error`
`11:50.07`	`oxman`	`:p`
`11:50.13`	`evl_`	`It means you need to use new address: :D`
`11:50.14`	`phyber`	`wereHamster: it means read the topic`
`11:50.15`	`dafire`	`wrong address ;)`
`11:50.15`	`sbu`	`wereHamster: wrong address, -> topic`
`11:50.17`	`DarkImakuni`	`svn.wowace.com has been nuked`
`11:50.40`	`oxman`	`the topic have not the adress of svn sbu`
`11:50.41`	`oxman`	`:p`
`11:50.57`	`sbu`	`mh`
`11:50.59`	`evl_`	`Time to stop using svn :P`
`11:51.09`	`DarkImakuni`	`http://www.wowace.com/svn/wowace/trunk/`
`11:51.22`	`DarkImakuni`	`slow, but works`
`11:52.13`	`evl_`	`Better to use the zip mirror thb`
`11:52.15`	`evl_`	`tbh`
`11:54.46`	`nevcairiel`	`the zipping system was improved, now its really good for updating imho`
`11:55.04`	`nevcairiel`	`even more if someone would write a autoupdater`
`11:55.06`	`oxman`	`yesterday no external lib..`
`11:55.39`	`dafire`	`i think the path for the zips also changed ;)`
`11:55.55`	`nevcairiel`	`all new zips have all externals now`
`11:56.06`	`oxman`	`and the url is ?`
`11:56.20`	`nevcairiel`	`www.wowace.com/files`
`11:56.26`	`sbu`	`yay autoupdater would be nice :p`
`11:56.39`	`clad\|sleep`	`everything is linked off http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN =)`
`11:56.41`	`oxman`	`i prefer update by the hand`
`11:58.16`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r12112 10PinPoint/Collect/Herbalism.lua: PinPoint: I think I nailed all herbs`
`11:58.33`	`DarkImakuni`	`<3 PinPoint`
`11:58.47`	`oxman`	`PinPoint is the new gatherer ?`
`11:58.58`	`nevcairiel`	`dont ask about it or ammo will kill you`
`11:59.07`	`[Ammo]`	`I went over thottbot and took all ingredients from pots etc`
`11:59.10`	`[Ammo]`	`and checked the herbs`
`11:59.12`	`oxman`	`[Ammo] PinPoint is a new dirty gatherer ?`
`11:59.12`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r12113 10PinPoint/Display/WorldMap.lua: PinPoint: no more zonespam`
`11:59.12`	`oxman`	`xD`
`11:59.23`	`evl_`	`Tekkub: Duratek doesn't autorepair?`
`11:59.28`	`[Ammo]`	`it can do some things that gatherer does`
`11:59.30`	`dafire`	`i tried to deembed embedded libraries but I failed bad .9`
`11:59.47`	`[Ammo]`	`but I'm working on a few more optimizations`
`12:00.15`	`nevcairiel`	`it can already track and display herbs, or?`
`12:00.47`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`12:00.53`	`nevcairiel`	`good enough`
`12:00.53`	`[Ammo]`	`only on worldmap`
`12:00.53`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`12:00.54`	`[Ammo]`	`no config`
`12:00.59`	`[Ammo]`	`no option to turn it off`
`12:01.01`	`[Ammo]`	`no nothing`
`12:01.11`	`[Ammo]`	`but it's small and should be efficient`
`12:01.12`	`oxman`	`as I said : "PinPoint is a new dirty gatherer ?"`
`12:01.12`	`oxman`	`xD`
`12:01.17`	`DarkImakuni`	`all barebone plumbing`
`12:01.28`	`nevcairiel`	`brb, booting xp again`
`12:01.30`	`[Ammo]`	`it should also display ores`
`12:01.35`	`[Ammo]`	`but never tested that module`
`12:01.45`	`[Ammo]`	`they will probably all show up as a ? icon`
`12:01.45`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`so its more of a ct map mod replacement`
`12:02.00`	`[Ammo]`	`I'm working on the minimap module`
`12:02.10`	`Wobin`	`oh`
`12:02.11`	`[Ammo]`	`and some display options`
`12:02.11`	`Wobin`	`ammo`
`12:02.12`	`beerke`	`is there an option to sort www.wowace.com/files in such a way that i only see the newest zip files ?`
`12:02.19`	`Wobin`	`you could have taken it from ArmchairAlchemist`
`12:02.24`	`[Ammo]`	`doh`
`12:02.26`	`Wobin`	`since I've already done the scraping =P`
`12:02.33`	`[Ammo]`	`well I scraped thott myself`
`12:02.33`	`[Ammo]`	`sigh`
`12:02.39`	`Wobin`	`Sorry =\`
`12:02.47`	`[Ammo]`	`doesn't really matter`
`12:02.49`	`DarkImakuni`	`beerke: no`
`12:02.51`	`[Ammo]`	`it's done`
`12:02.54`	`Wobin`	`I scraped alla, myself, due to the itemids`
`12:03.01`	`Mikma`	`yay!`
`12:03.06`	`[Ammo]`	`well I needed icons`
`12:03.07`	`*** join/#wowace Clovenhoof (n=klaas@212-100-176-88.adsl.easynet.be)`
`12:03.15`	`[Ammo]`	`and easiest way I know is thott`
`12:03.19`	`Wobin`	`You can get that from alla, I'm pretty sure?`
`12:03.32`	`[Ammo]`	`probably but like I said, I know thott )`
`12:03.36`	`clad\|sleep`	`beerke: If you want to see whats new, use the google group, or trac`
`12:03.45`	`Wobin`	`can you get itemids from thott easily?`
`12:04.14`	`beerke`	`trac google group is where ?`
`12:04.22`	`clad\|sleep`	`Look at the page linked in the topic.`
`12:04.29`	`clad\|sleep`	`beerke: Andyou CAN sort the files page by most recently updated`
`12:04.31`	`[Ammo]`	`Wobin: I don't need itemid's`
`12:04.39`	`clad\|sleep`	`beerke: http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?sort=date&order=desc`
`12:04.42`	`Wobin`	`).)`
`12:04.44`	`Wobin`	`er`
`12:04.50`	`Wobin`	`O.O`
`12:04.55`	`Wobin`	`you're not using itemids?`
`12:04.58`	`[Ammo]`	`no`
`12:04.58`	`Wobin`	`whyever not?`
`12:05.09`	`[Ammo]`	`well I could I guess`
`12:05.10`	`beerke`	`clad\|sleep, i can sort the directories yes, but that does not show me the newest zips`
`12:05.14`	`[Ammo]`	`but like I said, still working on optimizations`
`12:05.16`	`Wobin`	`What are you using?`
`12:05.20`	`clad\|sleep`	`beerke: Yes... it does.`
`12:05.20`	`Wobin`	`(to index)`
`12:05.45`	`clad\|sleep`	`beerke: Thats the modification date of the directory, which means a zip file was created at that time`
`12:06.04`	`Wobin`	`dear god`
`12:06.05`	`Wobin`	`5fps`
`12:06.09`	`Wobin`	`What is wrong with my game =(`
`12:06.18`	`Mikma`	`Wobin: it has turned into my laptop`
`12:06.26`	`Wobin`	`And I only have 293latency`
`12:06.26`	`beerke`	`clad\|sleep, but if there is a new zip added does that implye the folder gets recreated and the date of the folder as such reset`
`12:06.29`	`Wobin`	`which means PARTY`
`12:06.34`	`Mikma`	`Wobin: look http://wow.reaktio.net/ui.jpg`
`12:06.50`	`clad\|sleep`	`beerke: No.,. thats the MODIFICATION date, not the creation date. So it properly reflects the order of commits.`
`12:06.59`	`clad\|sleep`	`Modification ~= Creation`
`12:07.13`	`clad\|sleep`	`brb`
`12:07.23`	`[Ammo]`	`Wobin: well I index on the name`
`12:07.27`	*** join/#wowace jinn`xd (i=othelol@p54B460E0.dip.t-dialin.net)
`12:07.32`	`Wobin`	`localisation nightmare =)`
`12:07.35`	`[Ammo]`	`screw complete and utter locale independancy, all foreigners can drop dead`
`12:07.46`	`Wobin`	`honestly, itemid is much easier`
`12:07.51`	`[Ammo]`	`(or take their own time to fill out the tables)`
`12:07.54`	`Wobin`	`(you could use PT too)`
`12:07.59`	`[Ammo]`	`probably is but I can't be fucking arsed atm`
`12:08.03`	`Wobin`	`aye`
`12:08.13`	`[Ammo]`	`I've had it with koKR, frFR,zhCN, and whatever gimp other langauges`
`12:08.24`	`Wobin`	`cough`
`12:08.31`	`Kameril`	`thats the spirit!`
`12:08.41`	`Mikma`	`[Ammo]: what about enUS?`
`12:08.55`	`nevcairiel`	`enUS is the default language for everything.`
`12:08.56`	`[Ammo]`	`I was thinking of only supporting enGB since that's what I play in!`
`12:09.12`	`Wobin`	`他妈的`
`12:09.33`	`Mikma`	`Wobin: yes, us is not the center of the world`
`12:09.42`	`Mikma`	`lawlclown`
`12:09.50`	`[Ammo]`	`it's just that every two weeks approximately someone goes and commits 'localization for blahBLAH' and not only adds localization but also breaks stuff`
`12:10.06`	`Wobin`	`You'd think acelocale would fix that =\`
`12:10.20`	`Mikma`	`[Ammo]: make sure you localize your addons and make them have separate files for locals`
`12:10.44`	`[Ammo]`	`Mikma: I'm not going to provide 50 seperate locale files for bigwigs`
`12:10.47`	`[Ammo]`	`for instance`
`12:11.03`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`12:11.07`	`Mikma`	`[Ammo]: i'm talking about 1 locale file for each language`
`12:11.10`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: was?`
`12:11.18`	`Wobin`	`I want msbt to show the mace stun effect`
`12:11.19`	`[Ammo]`	`Mikma: won't work in a modular environment`
`12:11.32`	`nevcairiel`	`you would need one locale file per language per module`
`12:11.37`	`nevcairiel`	`and thats tons of files`
`12:11.40`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`12:11.46`	`Mikma`	`cool.`
`12:11.47`	`Mikma`	`doable`
`12:11.49`	`oxman`	`:)`
`12:11.54`	`dafire`	`start breaking bossmods into one mod per zone ;)`
`12:12.07`	`[Ammo]`	`dafire: shyva already did something like that`
`12:12.14`	`[Ammo]`	`I have a LoD version of BigWigs at home made by him`
`12:12.19`	`[Ammo]`	`but I need to review it still`
`12:12.27`	`dafire`	`nice .9`
`12:12.33`	`[Ammo]`	`but in the end, it's not worth it`
`12:12.41`	`nevcairiel`	`i like it the way it is with one file per boss, if you search some code you find it real quick`
`12:12.47`	`[Ammo]`	`it will cause a shitload of questions (see oRA1)`
`12:13.02`	`[Ammo]`	`and will shave a whopping second of your loading time`
`12:13.03`	`*** join/#wowace Aran\|WoW (n=xaranx@p54A54966.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)`
`12:13.10`	`[Ammo]`	`not worth the trouble`
`12:13.15`	`dafire`	`I don't think it's a problem with all mods still in one zip file on distribution`
`12:13.25`	`nevcairiel`	`you could still have one locale file per zone, and stuff all bosses locale in there .. maybe ..`
`12:13.33`	`evl_`	`!trunk oCB`
`12:13.46`	`[Ammo]`	`nevcairiel: 1 file per boss, locale included`
`12:13.53`	`[Ammo]`	`that's how it is, and that's how it will remain`
`12:13.54`	`nevcairiel`	`still lots of files`
`12:14.04`	`nevcairiel`	`just expressing ideas :)`
`12:14.08`	`[Ammo]`	`they're selfcontained entities`
`12:14.25`	`[Ammo]`	`and it truly isn't hard to not touch the rest of the code when updating locale tables`
`12:14.28`	`nevcairiel`	`those asian translations`
`12:14.33`	`nevcairiel`	`shouldnt they use escape chars?`
`12:14.49`	`evl_`	`Do I need to be op or something to get SVNBot working?`
`12:15.09`	`[Ammo]`	`nevcairiel: they should but they won't`
`12:15.15`	`[Ammo]`	`so every once in a while their locale will break`
`12:15.20`	`[Ammo]`	`they have been told numerous times`
`12:15.21`	`nevcairiel`	`force the translators`
`12:15.23`	`[Ammo]`	`they won't listen`
`12:15.27`	`nevcairiel`	`revert all other changes`
`12:15.33`	`[Ammo]`	`shrug`
`12:15.34`	`nevcairiel`	`drop all utf8`
`12:15.37`	`[Ammo]`	`I'm not that evil`
`12:15.38`	`nevcairiel`	`and force them`
`12:15.43`	`[Ammo]`	`and my editor handles them fine`
`12:15.46`	`evl_`	`!branches oCB`
`12:15.54`	`dafire`	`wouldn't it be possible to change their unicode to escapes by a script ?`
`12:15.54`	`nevcairiel`	`i see funny blocks.`
`12:16.04`	`nevcairiel`	`i think my editor wont screw them up`
`12:16.07`	`nevcairiel`	`but i see funny blocks`
`12:16.07`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`12:16.12`	`[Ammo]`	`i see funny blocks too, and weird chars`
`12:16.14`	`dafire`	`but then again I think it's a mess to change triggers if you just see escaped chars ;)`
`12:16.33`	`nevcairiel`	`you could have the real string in comment behind that`
`12:16.35`	`nevcairiel`	`or something`
`12:16.51`	`nevcairiel`	`there are scripts to lua-escape utf8`
`12:16.56`	`[Ammo]`	`this way is fine`
`12:17.09`	`[Ammo]`	`but for instance some korean guy added korean locale to oRA2`
`12:17.27`	`[Ammo]`	`and in the process deleted 1 (one) character from somewhere totally different in the file`
`12:17.34`	`[Ammo]`	`which broke the whole bloody addon without it erroring`
`12:17.40`	`[Ammo]`	`thank god for svn diffs`
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`12:18.10`	`nevcairiel`	`this is weird, in the oRA korean translations i see real fun chars`
`12:18.15`	`[Ammo]`	`hence my severe disliking towards localization`
`12:18.17`	`nevcairiel`	`and in bw korean i see only blocks`
`12:18.21`	`dafire`	`I don't know why people don't diff before comitting ...`
`12:18.31`	`[Ammo]`	`I usually diff before comitting`
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`12:18.37`	`nevcairiel`	`i always diff, since i forget what i changed and need a log :D`
`12:18.56`	`evl_`	`Anyone using Bartender2?`
`12:18.57`	`clad\|sleep`	`i agree =) nevcairiel`
`12:18.57`	`[Ammo]`	`I try to support different locales in the addons I write`
`12:19.00`	`evl_`	`How do I get cooldown numbers on em?`
`12:19.01`	`dafire`	`btw.. what's the status of mt styles for ora2 ? :)`
`12:19.01`	`clad\|sleep`	`headed to class, brb`
`12:19.04`	`*** part/#wowace clad\|sleep (n=jnwhiteh@12.107.199.130)`
`12:19.05`	`[Ammo]`	`but I'm not going go out of my way for them`
`12:19.15`	`nevcairiel`	`evl_: use OmniCC`
`12:19.30`	`Skyboat`	`OmniCC ftw :)`
`12:19.32`	`evl_`	`nevcairiel: in svn?`
`12:19.37`	`dafire`	`wowi`
`12:19.41`	`[Ammo]`	`dafire: I planned on doing some stuff to it this week, and point some people more clearly to the 'scale' options`
`12:19.43`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah wowi`
`12:20.02`	`[Ammo]`	`'it's toooo biig' -> 'use teh scale'`
`12:20.12`	`dafire`	`I really liked the "dafire" style in ora1 :o)`
`12:20.16`	`[Ammo]`	`I didn't`
`12:20.18`	`[Ammo]`	`and it's not coming back`
`12:20.23`	`dafire`	`awww`
`12:20.26`	`nevcairiel`	`ammo would it be too much to ask for a "emulate mt" option so you can scale and place them without being in a raid?`
`12:20.39`	`oxman`	`i emulate mt with macro ;D`
`12:20.49`	`nevcairiel`	`how ? :D`
`12:21.05`	`[Ammo]`	`nevcariel: copy paste this: /script table.insert( oRA.maintanktable, 'Nevcairiel' )`
`12:21.09`	`[Ammo]`	`repeat that a few times`
`12:21.14`	`nevcairiel`	`yay`
`12:21.15`	`oxman`	`:p`
`12:21.16`	`Mikma`	`ammo owned all`
`12:21.21`	`nevcairiel`	`i shouldve figured that`
`12:21.24`	`oxman`	`I do that often to configure my mt`
`12:21.24`	`oxman`	`xD`
`12:21.29`	`Mikma`	`he abandoned all layouts`
`12:21.35`	`[Ammo]`	`then do: /script oRA:TriggerEvent("oRA_MainTankUpdate")`
`12:21.45`	`nevcairiel`	`wee`
`12:22.00`	`[Ammo]`	`scaling might not take effect immediately`
`12:22.04`	`[Ammo]`	`as I noticed some problems there :)`
`12:22.18`	`nevcairiel`	`works for me`
`12:22.18`	`[Ammo]`	`but then again I run my UI at 0.64`
`12:22.26`	`oxman`	`Conference X06 for XBOX360 don't miss it !`
`12:22.31`	`[Ammo]`	`so I don't need scaling`
`12:22.41`	`dafire`	`I think I use 0.67 on 1920x1200 :)`
`12:22.54`	`nevcairiel`	`since i finally play without group frames in raids, i have lots of space.`
`12:23.04`	`nevcairiel`	`ui scale 0.76`
`12:23.11`	`[Ammo]`	`I only have perfectraid on the lefthandside`
`12:23.27`	`[Ammo]`	`and as a warlock I don't care for my groupmates :)`
`12:23.30`	`nevcairiel`	`i still cant play with perfectraid`
`12:23.41`	`nevcairiel`	`i simply cannot adapt to that`
`12:23.50`	`[Ammo]`	`it's purely a visual aid for me`
`12:23.57`	`[Ammo]`	`'are the decursers doing their job' ?`
`12:24.02`	`axxo`	`i just like to see all the dead ppl`
`12:24.04`	`[Ammo]`	`'how many are dead, and who died first'`
`12:24.06`	`[Ammo]`	`etc`
`12:24.08`	`oxman`	`My UI is a 0.74 on 1280x1024`
`12:24.08`	`dafire`	`I use sraidframes in a two column layout... and the ora1 dafire style just looked like the raid frames :)`
`12:24.24`	`Thrae`	`[Ammo]: XRaidStatus might be better for that yawn`
`12:24.34`	`[Ammo]`	`xraidstatus is a freakazoid to config`
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`12:24.43`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`I just used scaled down frames by class of sraidframes that are hotkeyed to shift p, and I only bring them up when needed`
`12:24.45`	`nevcairiel`	`who is dead is more obvious with a raidframe`
`12:24.46`	`[Ammo]`	`and isn't to my liking :)`
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`12:25.08`	`[Ammo]`	`and with perfectraid I can notice better where the dead are`
`12:25.29`	`[Ammo]`	`for instance on C'Thun it's good for the 'worst group' awards :)`
`12:25.47`	`nevcairiel`	`we should give that award`
`12:26.00`	`[Ammo]`	`oh and we have a bet running with class leaders and officers on the first death`
`12:26.00`	`oxman`	`Hum ....`
`12:26.07`	`Kebinusan`	`apparently c'thun got changed back to his pre 1.12 hotfixed self`
`12:26.08`	`oxman`	`PerfectRaid need a new custom sort !!`
`12:26.09`	`nevcairiel`	`we finally killed him last week again, didnt manage due to naxx taking over all our raids`
`12:26.09`	`oxman`	`"dead" !!!`
`12:26.18`	`oxman`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:26.21`	`oxman`	`it will be good i think`
`12:26.36`	`[Ammo]`	`Kebinusan: he probably did`
`12:26.48`	`[Ammo]`	`will have to adjust the timers again, but need some testing and transcript confirmation`
`12:26.50`	`nevcairiel`	`so, no 10s time to get in place`
`12:26.50`	`Kebinusan`	`apparently they changed patchwerk too`
`12:26.52`	`nevcairiel`	`but time to rezz ?`
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`12:27.00`	`[Ammo]`	`what changed to PW?`
`12:27.09`	`dafire`	`hm.. i thought maybe it would be cool if the tot in mt frames show class colors .. so you see instantly see if a mob has a nonwarrior as target :)`
`12:27.13`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`you cant kite him anymore`
`12:27.21`	`[Ammo]`	`dafire: class colors are working in a local copy here already :p`
`12:27.25`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`he has an AOE 1 shot after so many minutes`
`12:27.26`	`nevcairiel`	`only weirdos did that anyway`
`12:27.31`	`[Ammo]`	`dafire: but it's too generic, so I get mobs classcolored as well :`
`12:27.37`	`[Ammo]`	`which wasn't my intention`
`12:27.48`	`nevcairiel`	`only color on friendly units :)`
`12:27.49`	`[Ammo]`	`who cares about kiting PW`
`12:27.52`	`[Ammo]`	`I know`
`12:27.55`	`[Ammo]`	`just haven't fixed it yet`
`12:27.55`	`Wobin`	`does anyone have the murloc noise wav?`
`12:27.59`	`[Ammo]`	`yes`
`12:28.05`	`[Ammo]`	`http://www.auxilia-kazzak.eu/`
`12:28.06`	`nevcairiel`	`Wobin get a mpq browser`
`12:28.06`	`Wobin`	`I want to change bugsack's alert`
`12:28.08`	`[Ammo]`	`click on darnassus :p`
`12:28.21`	`dafire`	`that was one thing i dislike in ag_unitframes.. if you use classcolor as target you don't get the friend-foe coloring with opposite faction`
`12:28.30`	`nevcairiel`	`apple quicktime?`
`12:28.34`	`nevcairiel`	`i refuse to install that`
`12:28.37`	`oxman`	`ah ah`
`12:28.38`	`oxman`	`:D`
`12:28.42`	`oxman`	`mplayer ftw`
`12:28.51`	`Thrae`	`I use the old ICQ "Uh-oh!" wav for my BugSack alert, it fits perfectly.`
`12:29.02`	`nevcairiel`	`i love the fatality`
`12:29.35`	`Azurewrath`	`Wobin: i like Sound\Creature\Murloc\mMurlocAggroOld.wav the most ;)`
`12:29.39`	`[Ammo]`	`it's just a little easteregg in our guild homepage`
`12:29.41`	`Azurewrath`	`i use it in Detox hehe`
`12:30.04`	`nevcairiel`	`murlocaggro plays when you click the bartender2 fubar plugin :D`
`12:30.11`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`12:30.23`	`sbu`	`murlocsound ftw!`
`12:30.52`	`oxman`	`oh great Azurewrath, it's a very good idea xD`
`12:31.04`	`nevcairiel`	`so no changes except that kiting fix on PW ?`
`12:31.16`	`Mikma`	`Demolition Man <3`
`12:31.24`	`nevcairiel`	`he is on our raid schedule today.`
`12:31.32`	`*** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@64.132.104.242)`
`12:31.33`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ`
`12:31.39`	`Mikma`	`hi clad`
`12:31.49`	`[Ammo]`	`our second attempt on PW we reached the 5% mark after 4:25`
`12:31.55`	`[Ammo]`	`I mean second takedown`
`12:32.03`	`nevcairiel`	`wow`
`12:32.07`	`[Ammo]`	`and that is with a whopping 18 healers`
`12:32.09`	`nevcairiel`	`some serious damage`
`12:32.19`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`12:32.27`	`[Ammo]`	`hint: bring 2 hunters only :p`
`12:32.31`	`[Ammo]`	`they do shit dps on PW`
`12:32.32`	`[Ammo]`	`:)`
`12:32.33`	`nevcairiel`	`best we had was 6:30 on kill`
`12:32.36`	`Kebinusan`	`damn thats pretty good dps`
`12:32.49`	`DarkImakuni`	`This nickname is owned by someone else If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>`
`12:32.50`	`[Ammo]`	`first takedown was 4:57`
`12:32.54`	`[Ammo]`	`for the 5% mark`
`12:32.57`	`DarkImakuni`	`every bloody time I log in`
`12:33.06`	`nevcairiel`	`so identify`
`12:33.08`	`[Ammo]`	`make an onlogin script :)`
`12:33.10`	`DarkImakuni`	`or come back from AFK`
`12:33.22`	`nevcairiel`	`dont use away nicks`
`12:33.23`	`DarkImakuni`	`i do, but it keeps asking me :(`
`12:33.23`	`[Ammo]`	`that's because you have a silly script that places your nick with _AFK behind it`
`12:34.02`	`nevcairiel`	`5% mark is fun, in the first trys everybody thought you have 7 minutes until 5% .. but which is wrong.`
`12:34.14`	`nevcairiel`	`after 7 minutes he hits even harder then at 5%`
`12:34.47`	`nevcairiel`	`a shield-wall warrior can survive 5% if the dps is good, but cannot survive 5% and 7 minutes :)`
`12:35.03`	`[Ammo]`	`well you can kite him when he enrages a bit`
`12:35.08`	`[Ammo]`	`we spread out after enrage`
`12:35.09`	`JoshBorke`	`man, i have to redo my script`
`12:35.10`	`nevcairiel`	`(we had 7 minutes at 6% once)`
`12:35.16`	`phyber`	`negative. he poison bolts now when you kite, apparently.`
`12:35.27`	`[Ammo]`	`oh shit, I see I typed wrong 6:25 ofcourse :(`
`12:35.32`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`12:35.33`	`[Ammo]`	`35 seconds before enrage`
`12:35.35`	`[Ammo]`	`bleh`
`12:35.38`	`[Ammo]`	`sorry about that`
`12:35.42`	`nevcairiel`	`and i was amazed by your damage :D`
`12:35.45`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`12:35.50`	`[Ammo]`	`that was bull`
`12:36.03`	`[Ammo]`	`we need to tone down the amount of healers`
`12:36.06`	`[Ammo]`	`18 is too much`
`12:36.15`	`[Ammo]`	`need to tone down to 15-16`
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`12:36.33`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah we currently bring 18 healers as well`
`12:36.34`	`nevcairiel`	`we have like .. hmm .. 7-8 priests, 4-5 druids, and like 4 palys, so basicly 16 as well, yeah`
`12:36.58`	`Kebinusan`	`our guild leader is scared of CoR on patchwerk too :-(`
`12:37.06`	`[Ammo]`	`we use CoR`
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`12:37.13`	`[Ammo]`	`it doesn't affect the hateful strike`
`12:37.29`	`[Ammo]`	`and doesn't up his dps by anything noticable`
`12:37.32`	`nevcairiel`	`hm, is the hateful influenced by amplify magic?`
`12:37.32`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah thats what I keep saying that it'd help tons`
`12:37.41`	`[Ammo]`	`no`
`12:37.41`	`Kebinusan`	`nevcairiel, no`
`12:37.44`	`nevcairiel`	`good.`
`12:37.47`	`nevcairiel`	`we wonderd that`
`12:37.49`	`[Ammo]`	`amplify magic on the tanks is a good idea :)`
`12:37.52`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`is it normal that i get on amlsot evry svn update ace 2 errors?`
`12:38.10`	`DarkImakuni`	`its fine lern2readtopic`
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`12:38.22`	`nevcairiel`	`i will ask our locks today if they do CoR`
`12:38.26`	`nevcairiel`	`and if not, suggest that`
`12:38.29`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`this irc client has some bugs with topic... when i doubleclick ah we.. no need to explain ^^`
`12:38.37`	`nevcairiel`	`we always forget the faerie fire tho :D`
`12:39.44`	`[Ammo]`	`thaddius 8% yesterday`
`12:39.54`	`nevcairiel`	`we still suck at him.`
`12:39.57`	`[Ammo]`	`if 3 people wouldnt' have died on the first polarity shift he'd have gone down`
`12:40.01`	`nevcairiel`	`best was 40-something`
`12:40.05`	`[Ammo]`	`the rest of the shifts were perfect`
`12:40.09`	`[Ammo]`	`we just lacked 3 mages`
`12:40.13`	`[Ammo]`	`because they noobed`
`12:40.28`	`[Ammo]`	`and they even have blink to blink through him :p`
`12:40.56`	`[Ammo]`	`but his days are numbered`
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`12:41.05`	`*** join/#wowace lotheac (n=lotheac@lamopinaatti.telemail.fi)`
`12:41.14`	`nevcairiel`	`blink is a bit bugged on thaddius, at least thats what we noticed, your charge still counts for the place where you blinked away from for some seconds`
`12:41.32`	`[Ammo]`	`oh hmm`
`12:41.33`	`nevcairiel`	`i hope we get him this week as well, had some pretty good trys, without doing massive dmg yet tho`
`12:41.37`	`[Ammo]`	`that might be the cause of death though`
`12:41.45`	`[Ammo]`	`he enraged on us 8%`
`12:41.48`	`[Ammo]`	`and wtfpwned us :)`
`12:41.55`	`[Ammo]`	`so we know how to survive 5 minutes now`
`12:41.57`	`[Ammo]`	`which is the main goal`
`12:42.11`	`nevcairiel`	`we survived 5 minutes .. with like 15 healers and one tank alive`
`12:42.13`	`nevcairiel`	`all other died :D`
`12:42.43`	`Kebinusan`	`siphon life is great on thaddius`
`12:42.46`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`12:42.50`	`[Ammo]`	`ticks for soooo much`
`12:42.54`	`phyber`	`sounds like us vs. those slimes in the room before patchwerk :p`
`12:43.05`	`nevcairiel`	`the slime with the ae?`
`12:43.12`	`*** join/#wowace VipHalid (n=davor@83-131-55-183.adsl.net.t-com.hr)`
`12:43.18`	`phyber`	`nevcairiel: yeah.`
`12:43.18`	`nevcairiel`	`those are fun`
`12:43.19`	`[Ammo]`	`I like playing frogger`
`12:43.21`	`VipHalid`	`wowace forum up or not?`
`12:43.23`	`phyber`	`where there are like 20 little slimes.`
`12:43.24`	`[Ammo]`	`after PW`
`12:43.25`	`Kebinusan`	`frogger should be bigger`
`12:43.31`	`Azurewrath`	`mhm.. am i the only one who does not reach the page or the SVN? DNS is correct now..`
`12:43.32`	`nevcairiel`	`frogger is great`
`12:43.34`	`[Ammo]`	`hint: bring snowballs :)`
`12:43.39`	`nevcairiel`	`haha`
`12:43.39`	`Kebinusan`	`indeed ammo`
`12:43.48`	`nevcairiel`	`dont have anymore`
`12:43.48`	`[Ammo]`	`it's very cruel but soooo entertaining`
`12:43.54`	`phyber`	`hah`
`12:43.58`	`Kebinusan`	`Azurewrath, I cant hit wowace.com atm`
`12:44.23`	`nevcairiel`	`do snowballs work in raid or only your party?`
`12:44.28`	`[Ammo]`	`gives them 10% durability though`
`12:44.29`	`[Ammo]`	`party only`
`12:44.41`	`phyber`	`so, what's the proper tactic for thise slimes? we kind of kited them backwards while throwing lots of AoE at them, hoping they're down before we reach the instance entrance.`
`12:44.45`	`nevcairiel`	`most of my guildies undress before anyway`
`12:45.06`	`nevcairiel`	`phyber: do a circle in the room where grobulus throws the slime`
`12:45.07`	`JoshBorke`	`Azurewrath: the server is still under load`
`12:45.33`	`[Ammo]`	`phyber: kite them round the room`
`12:45.37`	`[Ammo]`	`phyber we go clockwise`
`12:45.42`	`[Ammo]`	`and make sure the raid bunches up`
`12:45.44`	`Azurewrath`	`JoshBorke: mhm, seems so :)`
`12:45.45`	`phyber`	`nevcairiel: we were trying that first. I take it the whole raid has to stay together?`
`12:45.49`	`nevcairiel`	`yes`
`12:45.54`	`Kebinusan`	`we go counter and have two aoe groups that leapfrog eachother`
`12:45.57`	`nevcairiel`	`so that all slimes go the same direction`
`12:45.58`	`phyber`	`we had an issue where the slimes would start taking shortcuts, because we're faster than them`
`12:46.19`	`[Ammo]`	`that's why you need to bunch up`
`12:46.31`	`[Ammo]`	`oh and once there is a good number dead`
`12:46.34`	`[Ammo]`	`single target them`
`12:46.37`	`[Ammo]`	`they go down fast`
`12:46.52`	`dafire`	`i think you can "exploit" them .. if they are kited to the entrance they go on evade and go back without doing any damage ... but i don't think its a proper tactic`
`12:46.58`	`nevcairiel`	`and be careful, they respawn after like 3 minutes or so`
`12:47.02`	`nevcairiel`	`or 5 ? dunno`
`12:47.20`	`phyber`	`Kebinusan: that sounds interesting. 2 groups of 20 going in each direction to keep the slime kind of in the middle?`
`12:48.02`	`Kebinusan`	`phyber, no all one direction but we stagger the aoe groups so that everyone isnt running back to a new position at the same time`
`12:48.09`	`phyber`	`ah`
`12:48.21`	`Kebinusan`	`so odd groups aoe at the door, even groups aoe slightly back from the door as odd groups reposition, etc`
`12:50.25`	`nevcairiel`	`i hope heigan goes well today`
`12:50.43`	`Kebinusan`	`heh, fun fight`
`12:50.48`	`phyber`	`I hope EU doesn't get this Hearth bug :/`
`12:50.53`	`phyber`	`US forums is comedy gold right now`
`12:51.01`	`nevcairiel`	`hearth bug?`
`12:51.03`	`nevcairiel`	`anythign confirmed?`
`12:51.12`	`phyber`	`yeah, die in an instance, get hearthed to your home.`
`12:51.20`	`phyber`	`lots of people speaking about it`
`12:51.31`	`Kebinusan`	`If you d/c in an instance you relog at your hearthstone location.`
`12:51.34`	`phyber`	`don't even get hearthed properly. people ending up in walls and under inns and stuff`
`12:51.41`	`nevcairiel`	`heh.`
`12:53.34`	`DarkImakuni`	`arrgh I wanna commit stuff to KungFu and ToFu but Kemayo is asleep so I can't ask him for permission.. :,(`
`12:53.53`	`nevcairiel`	`Kemayo has been asleep for the last three days`
`12:54.00`	`nevcairiel`	`did you send him a pm in the forums?`
`12:54.11`	`DarkImakuni`	`his inbox is full :P`
`12:54.18`	`Mikma`	`Industrial: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=110375144`
`12:54.21`	`Mikma`	`kergoth: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=110375144`
`12:54.24`	`Mikma`	`:D`
`12:54.27`	`DarkImakuni`	`or it was when I last tried`
`12:56.32`	`CIA-11`	`03werehamster * r12115 10coolDown/Items.lua:`
`12:56.32`	`CIA-11`	`coolDown:`
`12:56.32`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:56.32`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:57.50`	`beerke`	`any decent Ace2 cooldown tracker which tracks transmutes and such ?`
`12:58.17`	`[Ammo]`	`there is`
`12:58.26`	`[Ammo]`	`it has a nifty name`
`12:58.29`	`[Ammo]`	`but I can't remember it!`
`12:58.35`	`[Ammo]`	`KeepItCool`
`12:58.37`	`[Ammo]`	`that's it`
`12:58.47`	`beerke`	`cheers`
`13:00.29`	`sbu`	`KiC isn't ace2 yet :o`
`13:00.48`	`beerke`	`zomg i got scammed`
`13:00.55`	`beerke`	`slap [Ammo]`
`13:02.16`	`[Ammo]`	`scammed?`
`13:02.17`	`Mikma`	`someone give me a cool name for female character (gnome warlock)`
`13:02.25`	`DarkImakuni`	`Phyxit`
`13:02.31`	`[Ammo]`	`isn't keepitcool what you seek?`
`13:02.32`	`Mikma`	`thanks`
`13:02.42`	`beerke`	`it's not Ace2 i hear`
`13:02.49`	`[Ammo]`	`oh well, fix that )`
`13:02.58`	`[Ammo]`	`it's ace though!`
`13:03.00`	`[Ammo]`	`so easily changed to ace2`
`13:03.05`	`beerke`	`k, send me files when you are done :P`
`13:03.09`	`Wobin`	`woohoo`
`13:03.20`	`Wobin`	`Eye of Flame dropped for me off a ghoul =)`
`13:03.27`	`[Ammo]`	`cool wob`
`13:03.30`	`DarkImakuni`	`well done wobster... now gief :P`
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`13:06.22`	`nevcairiel`	`nice`
`13:06.25`	`Wobin`	`send me the monies =)`
`13:06.34`	`Wobin`	`although I may keep it for my mage`
`13:06.38`	`Wobin`	`although he's level 30 =P`
`13:08.32`	`DarkImakuni`	`zomg wake up teh Kemayo for meh kkthxbye lolz!11eleventyone`
`13:08.37`	`dafire`	`i still wonder if you go with t3 in level 70 25-people raid dungeons.. or if you have to equip yourself in 10-people dungeons.. .9`
`13:09.35`	`nevcairiel`	`you will possibly get equip in the 5man and 10 man dungeons`
`13:09.44`	`nevcairiel`	`if youve seen the first item screenshots, its worth it`
`13:09.44`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`13:10.57`	`dafire`	`i heard eu beta started today ? think have seen a blue post about that`
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`13:11.21`	`[Ammo]`	`it started earlier already`
`13:11.29`	`[Ammo]`	`at least some guildies of mine are level 65+`
`13:11.32`	`[Ammo]`	`:)`
`13:11.47`	`dafire`	`aww`
`13:12.09`	`dafire`	`did they get in because of blizzcon or the level contest ? ;)`
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`13:12.57`	`oxman`	`65+ in how many hours ?`
`13:13.47`	`phyber`	`I wish I was in the beta. I'd pay blizzard for an account.`
`13:13.54`	`dafire`	`many would ;)`
`13:14.07`	`nevcairiel`	`hm eu forums are dooooown`
`13:14.40`	`DarkImakuni`	`~wake Kemayo`
`13:14.43`	`purl`	`ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on Kemayo and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"`
`13:14.43`	`nevcairiel`	`~whalewake`
`13:14.45`	`CIA-11`	`03phyber * r12116 10/branches/KeepItCool/ (11 files in 3 dirs):`
`13:14.45`	`CIA-11`	`KeepItCool:`
`13:14.45`	`CIA-11`	`- Ace2 branch of keep it cool. Initial import, nothing changed yet.`
`13:14.55`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`13:15.15`	`[Ammo]`	`oxman: no idea how many hours`
`13:15.22`	`DarkImakuni`	`~whalewake Kemayo`
`13:15.56`	`DarkImakuni`	`:'(`
`13:16.36`	`dafire`	`do they know how many of the raid instances are 10 people and how many are 25 people ? ;)`
`13:16.48`	`nevcairiel`	`check the interactive map`
`13:16.53`	`nevcairiel`	`all labeld "raid" is 25`
`13:17.04`	`nevcairiel`	`all other sizes are labeld with their size`
`13:17.09`	`dafire`	`oh.. i thought raid would be both :9`
`13:17.20`	`[Insom]Farns`	`Yay, roommates wifes home safe and sound, time to crash >.<`
`13:17.31`	`nevcairiel`	`pizza ready, brb`
`13:19.51`	`[Ammo]`	`I'm still awaiting logs from the raid instances :)`
`13:19.54`	`[Ammo]`	`and transcripts`
`13:20.01`	`phyber`	`[Ammo]: do you know if there are any mirrors for the Libraries documents while wowace is all screwed up?`
`13:20.36`	`phyber`	`hmm, got the page up now. n/m.`
`13:20.40`	`phyber`	`just so slow.`
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`13:21.16`	`lotheac`	`I've been trying to checkout a dozen addons for a few hours now phyber :P`
`13:22.21`	`snurre`	`will oskin ever make frames movable btw?`
`13:22.53`	`nevcairiel`	`oskin screws up the readycheck frame`
`13:22.55`	`nevcairiel`	`for some reason`
`13:23.27`	`phyber`	`that's encouragement to stop using blizzard ready check :p`
`13:24.02`	`haste`	`DarkImakuni: let me gues: a opening song?`
`13:24.48`	`DarkImakuni`	`nah, Fukai Mori`
`13:26.24`	`nevcairiel`	`bbl`
`13:27.05`	`dafire`	`hmm.. i checked the interactive map .. and can't find a sign if it's 5 man, 10 man or 25 man .. there are just mob levels or it says "raid" .9`
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`13:28.14`	`dafire`	`there are 5 raid instances... can't believe they are doing 5 instances for 25 people :)`
`13:29.00`	`nevcairiel`	`every instance with multiple wings has probable one 25 man raid wing`
`13:29.29`	`nevcairiel`	`like kharazan has, caverns of time has`
`13:29.39`	`nevcairiel`	`one 5, one 10, one 25`
`13:30.45`	`Thiana`	`blink 25 person instances?`
`13:30.54`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`each of the 10/25 man wings better be naxx/aq40 sized!`
`13:31.00`	`\|Pixel\|`	`welcome to the real world, Thiana :P`
`13:31.09`	`DarkImakuni`	`malreth: if (enoughCash and macOSXLeopard) then BuyMac() end`
`13:31.18`	`DarkImakuni`	`I've made up my mind`
`13:31.30`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`what are you gonna use the laptop for?`
`13:31.53`	`malreth`	`Congratulations, DarkImakuni. A packet of information regarding your new Divine powers has been sent to your location of residence.`
`13:32.04`	`Thiana`	`\|Pixel\|: For those of you without basic communication skills, that was a query about what 25 person instances there are.`
`13:32.15`	`DarkImakuni`	`I'm gonna get an iMac, to replace my current 4yr old eMachines laptop`
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`13:32.40`	`\|Pixel\|`	`Thiana: 'we don't know'`
`13:32.45`	`DarkImakuni`	`Mac OS > Windows`
`13:32.54`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`hardly`
`13:32.56`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`it's nowhere near`
`13:32.58`	`Thiana`	`See, now that wasnt hard to answer was it :) gives \|Pixel\| a cookie`
`13:33.08`	`nevcairiel`	`Thiana: at least there are kharazan and caverns of time (hyjal), not sure about the instances labeld "raid" on the outlands map`
`13:33.21`	`\|Pixel\|`	`Thiana: the answer was already there`
`13:33.28`	`\|Pixel\|`	`15:27 < dafire> hmm.. i checked the interactive map .. and can't find a sign if it's 5 man, 10 man or 25 man .. there are just`
`13:33.31`	`\|Pixel\|`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:33.32`	`malreth`	`I regret, however, to inform you that we have reached our quota of Accelerated Healers. You have been reclassified as a Sin Smiter.`
`13:33.36`	`\|Pixel\|`	`no indication about the sizes of the instances`
`13:33.36`	`malreth`	`Congratulations.`
`13:33.37`	`Thiana`	`nevcairiel: So it's an expansion only thing then? Not altering current instances/etc?`
`13:33.50`	`nevcairiel`	`Thiana: old instances wont be touched, right :)`
`13:33.54`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`hmm`
`13:34.04`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`i thought they were gonna add the difficulty level settings to old ones too?`
`13:34.10`	`DarkImakuni`	`lol`
`13:34.11`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`with scaled geardrops`
`13:34.12`	`*** join/#wowace Jens (n=jens@unaffiliated/jens)`
`13:34.14`	`\|Pixel\|`	`I don't guess so`
`13:34.21`	`nevcairiel`	`dont remind me of the difficulty settings`
`13:34.25`	`nevcairiel`	`i hate it`
`13:34.28`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`i love it`
`13:34.57`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`means you only need 5 hardcore people to get some imba loot`
`13:34.59`	`dafire`	`they stated they might add a higher difficulty to naxxramas to make it more interesting again later but for now they stick on developing new content`
`13:35.31`	`\|Pixel\|`	`and they also stick on making the whole new VHL-content 25-people capped`
`13:35.35`	`malreth`	`DarkImakuni, your first assignment will be to the whore houses of central and south Texas. Execute with extreme prejudice those who spread their filth and sin across our society with their sexy sexy acts of lust and sex.`
`13:35.41`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`with the exception of 4 horsemen, most of naxx was done quickly`
`13:36.11`	`dafire`	`i guess if they would just update naxx again to level 70 many would cry that they are just lazy :o)`
`13:36.25`	`\|Pixel\|`	`they definitively won't`
`13:36.29`	`\|Pixel\|`	`that would be absurd`
`13:37.01`	`\|Pixel\|`	`capping new instances to 25, and still pushing people to be in raids of 40 for old instances would be absurd`
`13:37.04`	`DarkImakuni`	`malreth: slight problem, I don't live anywhere near Texas... :S`
`13:37.07`	`eternally777`	`Has anyone here worked with oSkin?`
`13:37.35`	`eternally777`	`Or is anyone here good with texturing in general?`
`13:37.48`	`malreth`	`DarkImakuni: The Divine Order has seen fit to give you a moped. It comes in your choice of colors as long as it's white.`
`13:37.50`	`*** join/#wowace Jens (n=jens@unaffiliated/jens)`
`13:38.00`	`DarkImakuni`	`rofl`
`13:38.20`	`Firedancer`	`I stripped out all the crap I didn't want skinned in oskin and hardcoded the settings (and changed how the viewport was done), but that's it :P`
`13:38.42`	`DarkImakuni`	`I don't even live in USA :P`
`13:39.39`	`eternally777`	`Then allow me to present you with my problem: http://www.wishiwascool.com/images/uhohoskin.jpg`
`13:40.18`	`eternally777`	`Obviously, I have oSkin turned on. I want to know why the bars in the character screen differ from those in the window on the bottom right corner, even though they're the same file.`
`13:40.33`	`*** join/#wowace nuOHEP (n=nuohep@h54.ciscom.ru)`
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`13:43.17`	`eternally777`	`Any idea?`
`13:43.43`	`DarkImakuni`	`no idea soz`
`13:44.55`	`Firedancer`	`only thing I can think of is the gradient for the statusbar "background" might be applied over the actual statusbar image.`
`13:45.24`	`eternally777`	`o.O`
`13:46.08`	`Firedancer`	`I could be wrong. but the glaze texture is the same as in any other mod that uses it, and has the same alpha channel`
`13:46.16`	`Firedancer`	`shrug`
`13:46.26`	`haste`	`I can't check the image :D`
`13:46.41`	`dafire`	`I'd like a bottom layout with a chat window left and right and in the middle more of the worldframe but I still need nice textures for that ;)`
`13:46.42`	`dafire`	`___ ___`
`13:46.42`	`dafire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:46.42`	`dafire`	`_____________`
`13:47.07`	`eternally777`	`haste, the link doesn't work?`
`13:47.16`	`haste`	`no, I don't have X running`
`13:47.23`	`eternally777`	`-.-`
`13:47.24`	`haste`	`I haven't had it for the last two days`
`13:49.51`	`Jens`	`I miss SVN :(`
`13:50.09`	`cladhaire`	`why do you miss it?`
`13:50.15`	`cladhaire`	`its sitting right there`
`13:50.20`	`cladhaire`	`just go talk to it!`
`13:50.23`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah sitting fits :)`
`13:50.29`	`nevcairiel`	`make it run :D`
`13:50.32`	`Jens`	`Random mods have blown up...`
`13:50.39`	`Jens`	`Can't access wowace.com either.`
`13:50.44`	`cladhaire`	`because their externals haven't been updated.`
`13:50.45`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: have you thought of putting svnserve up?`
`13:50.48`	`cladhaire`	`update your hosts file`
`13:50.54`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: We lose A LOT by putting svnserve up`
`13:51.00`	`*** join/#wowace sergio (i=sp@unaffiliated/sergio)`
`13:51.13`	`Mikma`	`hmm you mean the zipping?`
`13:51.19`	`cladhaire`	`and why would that make a difference`
`13:51.24`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: No, all the mod_dav features.`
`13:51.31`	`cladhaire`	`the way we authenticate.. the web browsing of the code, etc.`
`13:51.32`	`Jens`	`My addons folder is an a state of disrepair.`
`13:51.33`	`Azurewrath`	`naa clad.. i can't access wowace.com too and the svn is horribly slow/loses connection.. getting the correct DNS now..`
`13:51.38`	`Jens`	`s/an/in`
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`13:51.52`	`cladhaire`	`Azurewrath: Well.. I told you people this would happen`
`13:51.54`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`13:52.03`	`Azurewrath`	`hehe`
`13:52.05`	`cladhaire`	`I'm doing my best to make it work for you`
`13:52.07`	`lotheac`	`at least it's working, albeit slowly`
`13:52.14`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: dev only?`
`13:52.42`	`Azurewrath`	`cladhaire: wasn't meant to offend you.. i know server and network problems very well.. and the bitching of users ;)`
`13:52.43`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: SVN doesn't appear to be the main issue at the moment.`
`13:52.46`	`cladhaire`	`its the webserver`
`13:52.51`	`nevcairiel`	`buh.`
`13:52.55`	`cladhaire`	`you have to remember.. we weren't serving webpages off the same connectino before..`
`13:53.00`	`cladhaire`	`now its all in one box.. which makes things worse`
`13:53.13`	`Wobin`	`IT's crowding the issue? =(`
`13:53.46`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: but svn going throught the apache is a problem if everyone keeps checkouting the repo`
`13:54.04`	`nevcairiel`	`i guess the server does only have one ip, so you cannot route svn through another ip onto a real lightweight apache with only dav and no fancy php modules?`
`13:54.16`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: No, the problem is everyone's being an idiot and checking out the svn =)`
`13:54.23`	`cladhaire`	`i hate to say i told you so, but I told you so =)`
`13:54.26`	`Jens`	`svn.wowace.com IP == ?`
`13:54.38`	`evl_`	`what does range recoloring along with OmniCC?`
`13:54.45`	`nevcairiel`	`redrange`
`13:54.45`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: didn't i just say that? :D`
`13:54.57`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: Its not the "way" the server checks it out.. its the fact that its happening`
`13:54.59`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`13:55.18`	`DarkImakuni`	`allow checkouts for devs only :P`
`13:55.23`	`Mikma`	`yeah dev only makes it stop :D`
`13:55.28`	`cladhaire`	`no it doesn't.`
`13:55.32`	`cladhaire`	`Svn isn't the issue at the moemnt`
`13:55.39`	`cladhaire`	`i swear you people don't listen to a word I say`
`13:55.39`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`13:55.42`	`nevcairiel`	`(he said that earlier)`
`13:55.53`	`cladhaire`	`heh`
`13:56.01`	`cladhaire`	`DarkImakuni: I was blaming Mimka.. you're excused =)`
`13:56.02`	`DarkImakuni`	`How can we hear you when its text? :P`
`13:56.14`	`DarkImakuni`	`oh lol :P`
`13:56.17`	`Wobin`	`You have to type in caps =P`
`13:56.23`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: i am a good one to blame. then explain it to me throughly what is the issue.`
`13:56.24`	`cladhaire`	`right now.. swapping is killing us`
`13:56.25`	`nevcairiel`	`is the new server weaker then the webserver before? or is just svn + web causing the trouble?`
`13:56.28`	`Wobin`	`That way the screen reader will shout =)`
`13:56.31`	`cladhaire`	`and thats RAM`
`13:56.54`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: The problem is.. this may be a dedicated server.. but its serving much more (trac, svn, wiki, files) and its nowhere near the power of the old server`
`13:57.20`	`nevcairiel`	`no win-win :/`
`13:57.23`	`Weslocke`	`Clad, would getting people to cut externals help? I know that's another issue/argument, but some 1meg directories are only 10k without 'em`
`13:57.44`	`phyber`	`cladhaire: what are the specs of the new server?`
`13:57.56`	`Mikma`	`specs of old and new`
`13:58.27`	`cladhaire`	`Weslocke: Yes it would help, but svn doesn't appear to be the main issue right now, its concurrent svn connections`
`13:58.33`	`cladhaire`	`s/svn c/ c/`
`13:58.42`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: shut it down for 5mins lol`
`13:58.52`	`cladhaire`	`i can reboot apache whenever we want`
`13:58.56`	`nevcairiel`	`i guess you already tuned the apache`
`13:59.07`	`cladhaire`	`i'm trying`
`13:59.13`	`cladhaire`	`got rid of any modules I didn't need.`
`13:59.17`	`cladhaire`	`trying to compile as lean as possible.`
`13:59.19`	`cladhaire`	`etc`
`13:59.25`	`dafire`	`do you use any php accelerator? ;)`
`13:59.27`	`nevcairiel`	`apache2?`
`13:59.29`	`cladhaire`	`but all i get is ZOMG WHERE IS THE SVN!?`
`13:59.35`	`Mikma`	`:D`
`13:59.41`	`cladhaire`	`dafire: I dont have money for Zend.. and that's the only php5 accelerator`
`13:59.42`	`Mikma`	`change your nick before you come online`
`13:59.45`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: yes`
`13:59.48`	`DarkImakuni`	`tell em 'its fine lern2read'`
`13:59.56`	`dafire`	`cladhaire: I use apc with no problems for php5`
`13:59.59`	`Mikma`	`come online with something like clairehairy`
`14:00.01`	`[Ammo]`	`cladhaire: try running a front proxy apache that doesn't have php on board`
`14:00.04`	`Mikma`	`nobody will know it's you`
`14:00.09`	`[Ammo]`	`cladhaire: and run the php heavy apaches behind that`
`14:00.10`	`nevcairiel`	`if i knew where i had those settings ..`
`14:00.15`	`[Ammo]`	`that way images don't take up a php heavy apache`
`14:00.19`	`cladhaire`	`yeah.. and when do i find the time to do this?`
`14:00.23`	`cladhaire`	`and take down the server?`
`14:00.27`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`14:00.30`	`[Ammo]`	`just suggesting stuff :)`
`14:00.30`	`nevcairiel`	`just do it`
`14:00.36`	`nevcairiel`	`when you have time`
`14:00.41`	`nevcairiel`	`dont care about complains`
`14:00.42`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`14:00.46`	`cladhaire`	`i wasn't even supposed to be doing this much on the server`
`14:00.47`	`Weslocke`	`I'm guessing that with consolidating that means you don't have access to another server to break them back out. Any possibility of running a mirror?`
`14:00.49`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: gief me the root account. i'll make it work!!`
`14:01.06`	`dafire`	`I think apc would really help with the forum and mediawiki has special apc caching support.. and also need php 5`
`14:01.14`	`Wobin`	`hehe`
`14:01.16`	`Wobin`	`cladhairy`
`14:01.25`	`Wobin`	`"ARe there any women here?!" "No no... nonono"`
`14:01.33`	`cladhaire`	`dafire: I'll look into it some more.. but initial glance last night didn't show me much`
`14:01.37`	`DarkImakuni`	`zomg where is teh Kemayo? :S`
`14:01.50`	`Wobin`	`night alk`
`14:01.53`	`Wobin`	`all`
`14:02.03`	`nevcairiel`	`whats your maxclients?`
`14:02.04`	`DarkImakuni`	`at 3pm? :S`
`14:02.07`	`nevcairiel`	`night wob`
`14:02.16`	`Wobin`	`It's midnight =P`
`14:02.18`	`Wobin`	`silly =P`
`14:02.23`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: who's in charge of wiki's frontpage?`
`14:02.45`	`dafire`	`cladhaire: installing it should be easy as "pecl install apc" :)`
`14:03.29`	`Wobin`	`I love Oz =)`
`14:03.34`	`nevcairiel`	`this is great`
`14:03.37`	`Wobin`	`best place to live ever =)`
`14:03.38`	`nevcairiel`	`cladhaire: For best performance, unplug the network cable from your web server -- the load will drop down to zero almost instantly! ;-)`
`14:03.48`	`DarkImakuni`	`lol`
`14:03.48`	`Mikma`	`Wobin: gn dorothy`
`14:03.49`	`cladhaire`	`dafire: Why is there no freebsd apc port, heh`
`14:04.03`	`Wobin`	`Make sure you put the end of the network cable into a bucket so you don't lose too many bits`
`14:04.45`	`haste`	`cladhaire: what about varnish?`
`14:04.53`	`haste`	`not sure if it will help tho'`
`14:04.55`	`dafire`	`FIX VANISH!`
`14:07.52`	`dafire`	`apc stats on our web server`
`14:07.52`	`dafire`	`Server SoftwareApache/2.0.55 (Unix) DAV/2 PHP/5.1.1 SVN/1.4.0-rc4`
`14:07.53`	`dafire`	`Cached Files724`
`14:07.53`	`dafire`	`Hits31459064`
`14:07.53`	`dafire`	`Misses1500`
`14:07.53`	`dafire`	`Request Rate7.14 cache requests/second`
`14:08.46`	`cladhaire`	`heh`
`14:08.59`	`malreth`	`just install an 80-core CPU... http://news.com.com/2100-1006_3-6119618.html?part=rss&tag=6119618&subj=news`
`14:09.47`	`beerke`	`can i blame the people qabusing svn tio update for me not getting any zipfiles downloaded from www.wowace.com/files ....`
`14:09.49`	`Mikma`	`or 1 tera of mem`
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`14:10.51`	`nevcairiel`	`just some random tuning, AllowOverride None, HostNameLookups off, noatime on the partition with the files, KeepAliveTimeout to about 2s, disable all status and info pages.`
`14:11.58`	`Mikma`	`anyway`
`14:12.01`	`nevcairiel`	`serving files from a lightweight apache would be good as well, but as you pointed out, needs some time setting up`
`14:12.08`	`Mikma`	`there's missing a link to forums on www.wowace.com`
`14:12.15`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: done, done, done, done`
`14:12.18`	`Mikma`	`ok there WAS missing`
`14:12.27`	`Mikma`	`it's there now where wowace portal was`
`14:12.29`	`nevcairiel`	`just pointing out :)`
`14:12.32`	`cladhaire`	`hehe`
`14:12.39`	`DarkImakuni`	`~fix Kemayo`
`14:12.46`	`purl`	`ACTION takes Kemayo to the vet for a "special" visit.`
`14:12.53`	`nevcairiel`	`done like done before, or done now ? =p`
`14:13.25`	`paranoidi`	`cladhaire: hmm, are you're author of clique? =)`
`14:13.26`	`Uruloke`	`server still getting set up?`
`14:13.27`	`cladhaire`	`its been done`
`14:13.29`	`cladhaire`	`paranoidi: yes.`
`14:13.46`	`paranoidi`	`cladhaire: excellent, I got request to make SmartAssist support for it .. might bug you later ;)`
`14:14.45`	`paranoidi`	`-typos`
`14:16.26`	`Mikma`	`lolo wobbly dropped`
`14:16.48`	`sergio`	`so`
`14:16.48`	`nevcairiel`	`the linux kernel reserves like half the ram for system cache, no idea if freebsd does do anything like that as well.`
`14:17.44`	`sergio`	`Mikma: have you ever had fps lag switching pages with bars`
`14:17.55`	`Mikma`	`sergio: none`
`14:18.01`	`sergio`	`Mikma: then it just randomly stop this patch`
`14:18.04`	`sergio`	`I dunno what fixed it`
`14:18.15`	`sergio`	`shrug`
`14:18.17`	`Uruloke`	`sergio: I used to have that with GypsyHotbar`
`14:18.26`	`sergio`	`i dunno if it was the patch`
`14:18.28`	`cladhaire`	`paranoidi: You can just post a request on my portal, I'll be able to get ot it once I'm done workign on the server.. which is never =)`
`14:18.34`	`sergio`	`or something else`
`14:18.42`	`Uruloke`	`Never had it with Bongos though`
`14:18.59`	`sergio`	`either way it's moot`
`14:19.03`	`sergio`	`i was just curious`
`14:19.22`	`Uruloke`	`Hmm, is the server bogged down by requests or are there optimizations still under way?`
`14:19.41`	`Uruloke`	`Seems awfully slow right now`
`14:19.49`	`Mikma`	`sergio: pageswapping uses the normal blizzard functions. so if there's problems with that then there's problems with bt2/pagemaster too`
`14:20.18`	`cladhaire`	`i'm going ot take down the web server for a few minutes.`
`14:20.21`	`cladhaire`	`Uruloke: all of the above.`
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`14:20.38`	`Uruloke`	`cladhaire: Right`
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`14:21.03`	`paranoidi`	`cladhaire: considering that the SmartAssist list contains list of all known targets, how does it relate with attacks/heals. I mean attacks should go to the target and heals and such to targets target ...`
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`14:21.57`	`cladhaire`	`paranoidi: You can design the plugin to do whatever you want.. all clique takes is a unit, and a button (the mouse button being pushed)`
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`14:22.13`	`cladhaire`	`if you give it a friendly unit, it'll cast a friendly spell on that unit.. same deal with hostile.`
`14:22.40`	`cladhaire`	`jesus this server is fast when its not serving pages =)`
`14:22.43`	`sergio`	`Mikma: Yeah, I never really complained because i never switch pages really but it was strange`
`14:23.25`	`Uruloke`	`Were you gonna switch to PHP5 on the new server?`
`14:23.39`	`nevcairiel`	`cladhaire: i know the feeling, ive worked for unitedadmins a few years back when they were serving cheating-death .. once every two weeks a new release and 4 mirrors down for three days :D`
`14:23.46`	`paranoidi`	`cladhaire: yes, but the clicked frame represents kinda both units (friendly/hostile) and the choosen target depends from the spell ..`
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`14:24.43`	`cladhaire`	`paranoidi: You could write some logic using an on-click handler.. and force a click-set.. but it seems hacky to do so.`
`14:24.45`	`sergio`	`I still get weird fps lag when I mouse over Itemrack menus that have gear though`
`14:24.54`	`sergio`	`I think that's related some how`
`14:25.13`	`sergio`	`even if they don't have gear I guess`
`14:25.19`	`sergio`	`it can turn into a slide show`
`14:25.30`	`DarkImakuni`	`cladhaire: can I bother you to let me commit stuff to Kemayo's addons (KungFu and ToFu)? I would ask Kemayo but he's been asleep for 72 hours and his PM inbox is full...`
`14:25.53`	`*** join/#wowace Jens (n=jens@unaffiliated/jens)`
`14:26.01`	`phyber`	`his IRC client can't take any more PMs?! wow! :p`
`14:26.12`	`nevcairiel`	`DarkImakuni: did he lock his addons?`
`14:26.29`	`cladhaire`	`DarkImakuni: all adons are open for anyone to commit.`
`14:26.30`	`DarkImakuni`	`phyber: I meant the forum inbox :P`
`14:26.38`	`paranoidi`	`cladhaire: hmm, I'll have to test clique before I can decide what to do ..`
`14:26.47`	`phyber`	`I know ;) but you could just PM him here :)`
`14:26.53`	`paranoidi`	`still at work and checked only sourcecodes ;)`
`14:27.09`	`DarkImakuni`	`I just wanna make sure I can as I don't want to piss Kem off :P`
`14:30.48`	`Jens`	`Grr!`
`14:31.05`	`DarkImakuni`	`lol`
`14:31.17`	`Jens`	`Turns out it's wedensday today, not tuesday.`
`14:31.32`	`krka`	`danish sucks at weekdays`
`14:31.34`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`14:31.45`	`phyber`	`pime taradox detected`
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`14:32.19`	`Jens`	`WTF kind of gremlins messed with my clock. I do not approve.`
`14:32.48`	`Jens`	`This does have some benefits though... maybe my Hybrid CD arrived.`
`14:33.24`	`Jens`	`No :(`
`14:33.31`	`nevcairiel`	`:(`
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`14:36.24`	`Jens`	`I'm faced with a dilemma...`
`14:36.46`	`dafire`	`quote:`
`14:36.47`	`dafire`	`So do paladins and warlocks have aditional mounts now aswell ?`
`14:36.53`	`dafire`	`blue:`
`14:36.54`	`dafire`	`Somehow I get the feeling that "You get it for free anyway" is going to make you happy? ;)`
`14:37.12`	`dafire`	`why is everybody always crying ;)`
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`14:37.20`	`Jens`	`Either endure the horror of getting on my bike to the local shop and buy tasty treats for me to consume while raiding. Or stay here in my warm and comfortable chair, sans treats.`
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`14:37.40`	`nevcairiel`	`mhm`
`14:37.43`	`nevcairiel`	`food for raiding`
`14:37.47`	`nevcairiel`	`i should go shopping`
`14:37.50`	`nevcairiel`	`long raid today`
`14:38.01`	`Jens`	`Only thing I have to eat here is shitty microwave dinner.`
`14:38.08`	`eternally777`	`What does the "Tile" attribute of a frames backdrop do?`
`14:38.08`	`dafire`	`never play on patchday ;)`
`14:38.17`	`Jens`	`Which is a step above my usual dinner, which is mostly == nil.`
`14:38.18`	`weronika`	`hey guys, can sum1 recommend a good ace2 addon which will let me change gear at the click of a button, like between fr gear etc ?`
`14:38.50`	`CIA-11`	`03darkimakuni * r12117 10FuBar_ToFu/ (FuBar_ToFu.toc ToFu.lua ToFuLocals.lua):`
`14:38.50`	`CIA-11`	`Saved Variables are now saved per-character`
`14:38.50`	`CIA-11`	`Improved tooltip (I hope)`
`14:38.50`	`CIA-11`	`Added support for localization`
`14:38.50`	`CIA-11`	`Added :GetFlightInfo(), which allows other addons to pull flight data and use it for their own twisted plans`
`14:38.57`	`DarkImakuni`	`woot`
`14:39.07`	`nevcairiel`	`weronika: there is no such thing. next best would be AceWardrobe, which is Ace1, but Itemrack works fine as well, but not ace at all`
`14:39.32`	`DarkImakuni`	`my first commit :D`
`14:41.35`	`weronika`	`do ace1 addons work with ace2 /`
`14:41.37`	`weronika`	`?`
`14:41.46`	`Uruloke`	`nope`
`14:41.50`	`cladhaire`	`dafire: Disabled memcached, install apc. Where do i grab the apc stats at runtime?`
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`14:43.53`	`cladhaire`	`DarkImakuni: zomg grats!`
`14:44.03`	`DarkImakuni`	`hehe :P`
`14:44.07`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`14:44.18`	`nevcairiel`	`page seems fast`
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`14:44.31`	`nevcairiel`	`but i guess only needs some clients to reconnect :p`
`14:44.33`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: Yeah, the php will be much happier now.`
`14:44.33`	`lotheac`	`nevcairiel: sssssh, it's just because everyone doesn't know it's up yet!`
`14:44.34`	`phyber`	`we'll congratulate you when you beat the final boss.`
`14:44.50`	`JoshBorke`	`cladhaire: which apc?`
`14:45.08`	`JoshBorke`	`apc as in what? ;-)`
`14:45.15`	`cladhaire`	`JoshBorke: What do you mean which apc?`
`14:45.20`	`cladhaire`	`its a php accelerator`
`14:45.24`	`nevcairiel`	`alternative php cache, right?`
`14:45.27`	`JoshBorke`	`well, to me apc stands for american power converters ;-)`
`14:45.49`	`cladhaire`	`well yes.. i installed american power converters on the webserver.. and it improved web performance =)`
`14:45.49`	`phyber`	`cladhaire: apparently there is an apc.php included with it, stick it somewhere in docroot and take a look`
`14:45.58`	`nevcairiel`	`yay :D`
`14:45.58`	`cladhaire`	`phyber: oh okay`
`14:46.39`	`cladhaire`	`http://wowace.com/apc.php`
`14:46.40`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`14:46.50`	`phyber`	`yup, had found it. hehe`
`14:47.06`	`dafire`	`cladhaire: there should be a apc.php file`
`14:47.12`	`dafire`	`ah`
`14:47.14`	`cladhaire`	`heh`
`14:47.16`	`nevcairiel`	`dafire: read before enter`
`14:47.28`	`dafire`	`was still scrolling down ;:)`
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`14:48.27`	`cladhaire`	`the amount of traffic on this effing server is ridiculous.`
`14:48.39`	`cladhaire`	`3.5 gigs a day.. with the limitations we've had.`
`14:48.57`	`cladhaire`	`I may be abel to increase MaxClients now.`
`14:49.01`	`cladhaire`	`and when we get mor eram.. that may be happy`
`14:49.20`	`phyber`	`pull out your surfboard and tail the access log for ultimate fun`
`14:49.23`	`nevcairiel`	`what do you have maxclients set to ? and how much ram does it have ? :)`
`14:49.49`	`oxman`	`ah ah ah ah ah`
`14:49.54`	`oxman`	`cladhaire you have made Clique right ?`
`14:50.00`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: its 1gigs.. which made me laugh, then cry. and 65 clients atm`
`14:50.00`	`nevcairiel`	`he has`
`14:50.06`	`oxman`	`please go here : ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3207`
`14:50.11`	`oxman`	`and answer to Ozymandius`
`14:50.11`	`oxman`	`:)`
`14:50.17`	`cladhaire`	`oxman: I dont have time.. i respondd to him on wowi already tho`
`14:50.19`	`nevcairiel`	`65 clients sounds somewhat small`
`14:50.24`	`Mikma`	`oxman: "no2`
`14:50.27`	`Mikma`	`2="`
`14:50.31`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: I had it higher.. it hosed the server unconditionally`
`14:50.37`	`nevcairiel`	`oh.`
`14:50.50`	`cladhaire`	`we had 257 when the server ground to a screeching halt last night =)`
`14:50.54`	`oxman`	`he said CLique have a bad api or its hard to know how implement clique for ozraid :p`
`14:51.08`	`cladhaire`	`oxman: He doesn't have to do much of anything.... clique does the work`
`14:51.18`	`oxman`	`I know, but He doesn't know :D`
`14:51.23`	`oxman`	`He compares Clique to JustClick`
`14:51.24`	`cladhaire`	`thats why i responded to him`
`14:51.27`	`oxman`	`damn it, you must fix that :p`
`14:51.29`	`oxman`	`:D`
`14:51.45`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: See.. already the server is taking a hit =(`
`14:51.51`	`nevcairiel`	`i noticed :(`
`14:52.00`	`cladhaire`	`it comes and goes`
`14:52.02`	`cladhaire`	`there are offending pages`
`14:52.05`	`cladhaire`	`i just have to find out what they are.`
`14:52.33`	`JoshBorke`	`well, apc seems to be doing a damn fine job though :-)`
`14:52.33`	`cladhaire`	`yes it does`
`14:52.39`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah, its responding much better`
`14:52.52`	`JoshBorke`	`99.8% hits`
`14:53.06`	`cladhaire`	`increased maxclients`
`14:53.09`	`cladhaire`	`we'll see how it goes`
`14:53.10`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`14:53.20`	`JoshBorke`	`not too much you can do without more ram`
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`14:53.45`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`evening ladies`
`14:53.48`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`~ladies`
`14:53.50`	`grzesieq`	`hmm, to pay for next month of wow or not to pay`
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`14:55.24`	`dafire`	`forums seems more responsible ;)`
`14:55.33`	`nevcairiel`	`responsive`
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`14:55.38`	`nevcairiel`	`not responsible :D`
`14:55.41`	`dafire`	`aehm .. yeah`
`14:55.49`	`Nightm`	`Stupid question: how does KC_Mobility work?`
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`14:55.55`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`yeah, were gone 5 mins ago and now they work a little bit faster`
`14:55.57`	`nevcairiel`	`it just does`
`14:56.11`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`14:56.31`	`Nightm`	`I can't move anything so I assume I'm doing something wrong ;)`
`14:56.42`	`sergio`	`honestly it's night and day but`
`14:56.48`	`sergio`	`it's still slow as hell`
`14:56.58`	`sergio`	`at least to my standards`
`14:57.06`	`nevcairiel`	`that funny stickyframes library clad wrote isnt working for me either, yet other people claim it works perfectly.`
`14:57.14`	`nevcairiel`	`so dont ask me :D`
`14:57.17`	`sergio`	`but that's just my opinion`
`14:57.32`	`sergio`	`at least you can browse now`
`14:57.48`	`grzesieq`	`hmm, where are wolves sold?`
`14:57.48`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`hmm forums getting faster now first page took servral secs now only fractions^^`
`14:57.58`	`grzesieq`	`never played horde long enough to get a mount ;p`
`14:58.19`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`better than yesterday, Forum and /files caused my procs to run at 100% and was going nuts^^`
`14:58.22`	`Slayman`	`so is the svn now working as intended ?`
`14:58.27`	`Slayman`	`finally`
`14:58.40`	`nevcairiel`	`its working as intented for a long time`
`14:58.48`	`nevcairiel`	`only a tiny bit overloaded`
`14:58.57`	`Slayman`	`well about 9 hours ago it didn't`
`14:59.07`	`dafire`	`it's still open for all, if that's what you ment`
`15:00.07`	`Nightm`	`bah I guess I'll just keep mobile frames for a while longer then >.< KC_Mobility won't work`
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`15:02.46`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`hmm i take that back with the speed, posting takes 30secs yawn`
`15:03.44`	`cladhaire`	`it won't be consistently slow`
`15:03.54`	`cladhaire`	`it depends on whether or not your client has a persistent connection open or not.`
`15:04.03`	`cladhaire`	`fast browsing will be faster than infrequent browsing`
`15:04.06`	`cladhaire`	`due to queuing.`
`15:04.12`	`Nightm`	`ok seriously how do I move stuff with KC_mob?`
`15:04.21`	`[Ammo]`	`clad, why is DAV in the apache?`
`15:04.27`	`[Ammo]`	`as in what part of the site requires it?`
`15:04.31`	`cladhaire`	`[Ammo]: SVN`
`15:04.34`	`[Ammo]`	`okie`
`15:04.37`	`[Ammo]`	`fair enough :)`
`15:04.43`	`cladhaire`	`I could pull out SSL.. but we may need it at some point`
`15:04.48`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`15:04.51`	`Baraius`	`NightM: Hold down alt and right click drag`
`15:04.55`	`Nightm`	`hmm ok`
`15:04.59`	`[Ammo]`	`SSL might be neat for SVN developer etc`
`15:05.02`	`Baraius`	`(I just switched from mobile frames)`
`15:05.04`	`[Ammo]`	`not for public read`
`15:05.07`	`Baraius`	`Seems to work fine`
`15:05.12`	`cladhaire`	`hrm`
`15:05.29`	`Nightm`	`I'll just try disabling some other stuff then`
`15:05.51`	`dafire`	`can you throttle svn for nonauthenticated users ? ;)`
`15:06.15`	`dafire`	`but that would not affect connection count.. hm`
`15:06.35`	`[Ammo]`	`indeed`
`15:06.56`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: make an svn account for thirsterhall after the dust is settled`
`15:07.34`	`Mikma`	`(soon he'll be so mad to me)`
`15:08.00`	`Mikma`	`see`
`15:08.03`	`sergio`	`you made him flood`
`15:08.25`	`Mikma`	`i bet it was full of "FUCK YOU" messages`
`15:08.26`	`*** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@64.132.104.242)`
`15:08.26`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ`
`15:08.32`	`Mikma`	`hi clad`
`15:08.34`	`cladhaire`	`mmm flood.. tastes so good`
`15:08.36`	`phyber`	`welcome back ;)`
`15:09.08`	`cladhaire`	`hai`
`15:09.21`	`[Ammo]`	`who is responsible for the forum installation btw?`
`15:09.31`	`[Ammo]`	`writing new posts gives javascript errors OnKeyup :)`
`15:09.37`	`nevcairiel`	`kaelten iirc`
`15:09.38`	`phyber`	`circus midgets.`
`15:09.47`	`[Ammo]`	`cool I'll warn the midgets`
`15:10.15`	`[Ammo]`	`I kinda have to write my posts in an editor and then paste them into the box then submit, click away 3 errors and continue :)`
`15:10.32`	`[Ammo]`	`could be IE acting up ofcourse, but it didn't do that before :))`
`15:10.34`	`Nightm`	`Baraius: what version of KC_M are you using?`
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`15:14.03`	`sergio`	`If I change a timer var in a BigWigs boss mod (Cthun -12 seconds) and announce will my whole raid be synced up or do they all have to have that change`
`15:14.12`	`[Ammo]`	`they all need the change`
`15:14.44`	`Nightm`	`./sigh`
`15:14.45`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: Did thisterall send me an email?`
`15:14.47`	`[Ammo]`	`since the bars are started with a token`
`15:14.49`	`Nightm`	`KC_mobility hates me`
`15:15.17`	`[Ammo]`	`I need exact information again on C'Thun`
`15:15.50`	`sergio`	`I don't have the exact information but it's pre 1.12.0`
`15:15.50`	`[Ammo]`	`aka: how did the timers change, back to 1.11 or something different?`
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`15:15.50`	`sergio`	`yes`
`15:15.50`	`[Ammo]`	`need to know exactly, not approx`
`15:15.50`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: yeah he said at the forums that he has. i privatemessaged him your address today`
`15:15.58`	`sergio`	`and between phase 1 and 2 there's no out of combat`
`15:16.04`	`sergio`	`well I don't have a combat log`
`15:16.09`	`sergio`	`etc but I know what happened`
`15:16.14`	`sergio`	`he beams right away`
`15:16.18`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: yeah i dont think i have an email from him`
`15:16.21`	`sergio`	`and everyone goes in combat`
`15:16.22`	`cladhaire`	`as soon as i get it, i'll create it!`
`15:16.23`	`sergio`	`right away`
`15:16.46`	`nevcairiel`	`we do cthun on sunday, if no log/transcript came in till then, i can provide`
`15:17.26`	`sergio`	`It's just pre 1.12.0 c'thun with no long ooc between phase 1 and 2`
`15:17.27`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: them he's an ass that shouldn't get an account if he haven't mailed you ;D`
`15:18.31`	`sergio`	`well anyway, I'm going again tonight`
`15:18.37`	`[Ammo]`	`sergio: ok I'll adjust timers to 1.11`
`15:18.42`	`sergio`	`I just wanted to get it done`
`15:18.46`	`sergio`	`I Can test it if you update`
`15:18.50`	`sergio`	`and give feed back`
`15:19.17`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: have him email me again, and problem solved!`
`15:19.38`	`DarkImakuni`	`tort doesn't like the changes I made to KungFu... it says none of the files have been changed... :S`
`15:20.39`	`nevcairiel`	`haha`
`15:21.11`	`[Ammo]`	`sergio: patience, checking out a fresh bigwigs, since I haven't bothered updating my SVN references yet for it with the load the server already has`
`15:21.28`	`sergio`	`i have 8 hours`
`15:21.32`	`sergio`	`:)`
`15:21.52`	`[Ammo]`	`I'll have it done in a minute`
`15:21.53`	`sergio`	`[Ammo]: I just don't want to wipe again because the downies in the guild rely on timers`
`15:21.56`	`[Ammo]`	`just need the checkout to finish :)`
`15:22.01`	`nevcairiel`	`hm`
`15:22.01`	`sergio`	`THANKS A LOT PAL`
`15:22.14`	`nevcairiel`	`then i need to warn my guildies to update`
`15:22.19`	`nevcairiel`	`or they are all going to die`
`15:22.22`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: he seems to be very thoughtful guy: "Thanks Mikma, I shot him an e-mail but He and others have also been quite busy with the server changes so I didn't really want to add to his already over load of work."`
`15:22.35`	`Xuerian`	`nevcairiel: And that's a bad thing why?`
`15:22.42`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: he's a priority of mine, for a number of reasons.`
`15:22.50`	`cladhaire`	`maybe he didn't use the name thister in the email anywhere?`
`15:22.53`	`sergio`	`oh i'm sure you've heard but`
`15:22.58`	`sergio`	`did you see what they did to patchwerk`
`15:23.17`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`what did they do to pw?`
`15:23.19`	`ermer`	`wtf the ZHC does 204 spell power now`
`15:23.21`	`nevcairiel`	`we wiped on thaddius yesterday because some in the guild used thaddiusarrows, but we use a different tactic =P`
`15:23.21`	`sergio`	`when he 7 minute enrages he poison bolts for 30k or something ridiculous`
`15:23.29`	`DarkImakuni`	`you cant kite him anymore`
`15:23.30`	`sergio`	`that's what I read on the forums`
`15:23.43`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`well hes down in 6min anway ^^`
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`15:23.56`	`[Ammo]`	`nevcairiel: that's what the broadcast is for :)`
`15:23.58`	`DarkImakuni`	`if you attempt to kite him he'll throw the poison bolts at you`
`15:23.59`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`but does that mean he does the same at 5%?`
`15:24.10`	`[Ammo]`	`nevcairiel: I had some people in my guild complaining Thaddiusarrows was giving them wrong info`
`15:24.27`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`Anyone reccomend a good LUA editor for Linux?`
`15:24.29`	`nevcairiel`	`[Ammo]: does it support the square tactic ? 4 corners ?`
`15:24.31`	`[Ammo]`	`nevcairiel: quickly checked, and turned out they were retards`
`15:24.41`	`Kebinusan`	`hahah qft`
`15:24.49`	`[Ammo]`	`nevcairiel: no circular L/R R/L and run through`
`15:24.50`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: well, admins of the board can look his email?`
`15:24.52`	`[Ammo]`	`we use run through`
`15:24.52`	`sergio`	`Kyahx-Laptop: vim`
`15:24.58`	`jjungnickel`	`Kyahx-Laptop: vim`
`15:25.00`	`Kebinusan`	`you try to make something idiot proof and they go and build a better idiot`
`15:25.02`	`jjungnickel`	`duh`
`15:25.04`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx-Laptop: canada`
`15:25.07`	`nevcairiel`	`[Ammo]: see ? :)`
`15:25.07`	`Thrae`	`Kyahx-Laptop: gedit, gvim, vim, etc.`
`15:25.20`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx-Laptop: i use joe since i don't know how vim works :D`
`15:25.22`	`[Ammo]`	`circular is similar to square though`
`15:25.22`	`nevcairiel`	`but thaddius is easy anyway, you dont need that big arrows.`
`15:25.25`	`[Ammo]`	`since it has 4 points too`
`15:25.28`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`gedit dosent have coloring :P`
`15:25.29`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah you don't`
`15:25.35`	`[Ammo]`	`but it helps on some of the retards`
`15:25.38`	`Thrae`	`Kyahx-Laptop: Mine does with Debian`
`15:25.44`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`hmmm`
`15:25.50`	`[Ammo]`	`it also helps to have someone (me or another) on vent saying: incoming polarity, watch debuff`
`15:25.54`	`[Ammo]`	`every fucking 30 seconds`
`15:25.57`	`[Ammo]`	`I mean c'mon`
`15:26.02`	`[Ammo]`	`how hard is it to look for yourself`
`15:26.12`	`sergio`	`it isn't`
`15:26.17`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`well shit, it does`
`15:26.27`	`DarkImakuni`	`whats a good LUA editor for mac? :)`
`15:26.29`	`Kebinusan`	`how can you miss the giant lighting swirling around his hands`
`15:26.33`	`Mikma`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:26.34`	`sergio`	`xcode?`
`15:26.36`	`sergio`	`shrug`
`15:26.42`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`gedit wins`
`15:26.53`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`becuase I alraedy have it, just didnt turn the proper option on >.<`
`15:26.58`	`nevcairiel`	`[Ammo]: yeah maybe i should say that.`
`15:27.05`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`Dark: BBEdit^^ TextEdit^^`
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`15:27.38`	`nevcairiel`	`but i dont see that circular would work for us`
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`15:28.30`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`Ammo: Would it be difficult to make the oRA2 res moniter always sort alphabeticly by corpse?`
`15:29.12`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: boards work much better now for some reason. 10sec delay instead on 1min`
`15:29.30`	`malreth`	`DarkImakuni: I use TextWrangler... It's BBEdit but for free`
`15:29.48`	`malreth`	`hands down one of the best text editors out there`
`15:29.51`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: We've made a number of changes`
`15:30.14`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`malreth: oh you... i searched for it but had forgotten the name`
`15:31.00`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r12118 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua:`
`15:31.00`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs (CThun):`
`15:31.00`	`CIA-11`	`* Update for 1.12.1 patch, engage is now back to 1.11`
`15:31.01`	`[Ammo]`	`sergio, watch CIA-11`
`15:31.02`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: lovely. now let's close the svn for devs only too. ;D`
`15:31.03`	`JoshBorke`	`lol cladhaire`
`15:31.08`	`Thrae`	`The new SVN seems very slow...is this due to the queuing of HTTP requests, or bandwidth?`
`15:31.10`	`JoshBorke`	`according to APC, 100.0% cache hit`
`15:31.17`	`cladhaire`	`Thrae: https requests`
`15:31.17`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`malreth: was using some way old BB version for which i had a key and couldn't update XD`
`15:31.31`	`cladhaire`	`Thrae: bandwidth is a non issue.. and once your connectino goes.. it should fly`
`15:31.34`	`cladhaire`	`for anythign other than externals`
`15:31.38`	`cladhaire`	`which are independent requests`
`15:31.43`	`nevcairiel`	`hm`
`15:31.50`	`[Ammo]`	`cladhaire: confirmed indeed :)`
`15:31.50`	`nevcairiel`	`could we use relative path in externals ?`
`15:31.54`	`[Ammo]`	`it's superfast`
`15:31.57`	`[Ammo]`	`once you get in`
`15:32.01`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: You can't.`
`15:32.10`	`Thrae`	`I've always wondered why SVN doesn't allow relative path for externals`
`15:32.11`	`nevcairiel`	`too bad`
`15:32.19`	`cladhaire`	`because externals are a hack`
`15:32.23`	`[Ammo]`	`thrae: because that would not make them external :p`
`15:32.24`	`JoshBorke`	`~joshbork`
`15:32.26`	`purl`	`well, joshbork is faster than me`
`15:32.26`	`cladhaire`	`and we use them like no one else in the world has used them`
`15:32.45`	`sergio`	`[Ammo] yeah got it`
`15:32.52`	`sergio`	`thanks`
`15:32.56`	`Thrae`	`cladhaire: What if we used a template that provided symlinks to the libs instead of using externals?`
`15:33.08`	`sergio`	`p.s. http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h314/kaikulu/patchenrage.jpg`
`15:33.14`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: well, it may seem like a stupid idea but i atleast would like to start providing the externals in my addons without propedits`
`15:33.19`	`cladhaire`	`Thrae: You can't do anythign like that with svn.. its externals, or put everything in one folder.`
`15:33.23`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`cladhaire: sounds scary. What are you doing to that poor innocent SVN? :P`
`15:33.27`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: If ace were stable, i'd say yeah.`
`15:33.32`	`cladhaire`	`Moondrake[G5]: hrm?`
`15:33.33`	`Gamefaq`	`Fehler: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/wowace/!svn/bln/12118'`
`15:33.42`	`Gamefaq`	`Fehler: PROPFIND of '/svn/wowace/!svn/bln/12118': could not connect to server (http://www.wowace.com)`
`15:33.49`	`Gamefaq`	`why?`
`15:33.54`	`nevcairiel`	`because.`
`15:33.56`	`cladhaire`	`Gamefaq: DNS likely`
`15:34.03`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`clad: "cladhaire: and we use them like no one else in the world has used them" that sentence made me laugh ^^`
`15:34.11`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: hmm.. you're right on that one actually`
`15:34.26`	`cladhaire`	`Moondrake[G5]: We do,.. you guys dont have any idea how much we MANGLE the way svn is intended to be used.`
`15:34.30`	`Gamefaq`	`but what can i do to fix this`
`15:34.40`	`nevcairiel`	`Gamefaq: retry`
`15:34.44`	`cladhaire`	`Gamefaq: Wait, or hardcode the DNS until it fully propagates.`
`15:34.51`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`Gamefaq: use zips? :P`
`15:35.07`	`cladhaire`	`unless you're on the new DNS`
`15:35.11`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`clad: i know, just totally other images were coming to mind when i hear "like noone in theworld has used it before" quite funny images actually`
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`15:35.16`	`cladhaire`	`when you go to http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Main_Page`
`15:35.21`	`Gamefaq`	`i done a new checkout on xloot and thats happens at teh externals to this the checkout was very slow`
`15:35.22`	`cladhaire`	`does it say you're on the new site?`
`15:35.43`	`cladhaire`	`the checkouts will be slow(er)`
`15:35.51`	`Mikma`	`wow that was fast`
`15:35.54`	`cladhaire`	`there is a problem with those externals then, most likely`
`15:36.04`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: apc ftw apparently =)`
`15:36.06`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`clad: is it normal that forum link isn't on main page but on all other pages?`
`15:36.22`	`cladhaire`	`Moondrake[G5]: talk to tekkub/kaelten =)`
`15:36.36`	`nevcairiel`	`cladhaire: it still hangs a bit on "Connecting to .." but after that its damn fast. :)`
`15:36.51`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: well the speed is now "incredible" compared to the "day".. that's like 5h ago`
`15:36.57`	`cladhaire`	`I think its TRAC killing the server.`
`15:37.08`	`nevcairiel`	`try turning it off and see ? :D`
`15:37.12`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`heh, cool, reloading now link is there, opening new window entering url, link is gone, reloading forum link there^^ strange`
`15:37.16`	`cladhaire`	`80% cpu when generating those pages.`
`15:37.20`	`Mikma`	`we don't need trac atm`
`15:37.24`	`phyber`	`ouch, I've just checked the US forums. GM's arn't giving players the money back if they have an epic mount but wern't 60 yet.`
`15:37.36`	`Jens`	`I'm almost afraid to ask, but how do I fix the URL for stuff in my addons dir, so Tortoise can be happy again?`
`15:37.42`	`phyber`	`in EU yet are buying the mounts back from the players in those cases.`
`15:37.51`	`nevcairiel`	`who is stupid enough to buy an epic mount before 60 anyway?`
`15:38.01`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: i agree on that one`
`15:38.01`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`nev: /sign`
`15:38.02`	`phyber`	`nevcairiel: people who want to use it as soon as they dong 60?`
`15:38.10`	`phyber`	`ds/dong/ding/`
`15:38.10`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`I bought mine when I was 59`
`15:38.22`	`nevcairiel`	`phyber: doesnt work, since you need to learn riding now anyway :D`
`15:38.24`	`Xuerian`	`Jens: delete (to recycble bin if you're not secure) the folders and checkout again, but I wouldn't do it right now for fear of firey wrath`
`15:38.26`	`Jens`	`<phyber> ouch, I've just checked the US forums. GM's arn't giving players the money back if they have an epic mount but wern't 60 yet. <-- deleted mounts?`
`15:38.26`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`i bought mine 2 days ago`
`15:38.44`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`A friend of mine is one bubble from exaulted with AV`
`15:38.47`	`phyber`	`Jens: they have the mount in their inventory, but they also have to pay 800g or so for the skill too`
`15:38.52`	`nevcairiel`	`phyber: hearth home and be happy. :)`
`15:38.52`	`phyber`	`so, they are paying twice.`
`15:38.52`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`he was going to do it this weekend and get his 600g epic`
`15:39.01`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`now he has to buy riding skill as well =(`
`15:39.07`	`Skyboat`	`640g`
`15:39.15`	`Jens`	`What was changed re: mounts that I don't know about?`
`15:39.21`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`No, its 720g isnt it?`
`15:39.29`	`Skyboat`	`720g without discounts, yes`
`15:39.29`	`oxman`	`yep`
`15:39.30`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`the riding skill?`
`15:39.31`	`nevcairiel`	`720 minus rank3 discount`
`15:39.52`	`Jens`	`My epic tiger cost me 800g back then...`
`15:40.03`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`No, hes rank 3 and revered with IF, his training still costs 720`
`15:40.08`	`Skyboat`	`AV mount is dearer after the patch, people with mulitple mounts now save money`
`15:40.22`	`Skyboat`	`also, warlocks and paladins with their epic mount also receive 150 riding skill`
`15:40.27`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`Skyboat: but people WITHOUT epic mounts got screwd`
`15:40.38`	`Skyboat`	`nope, it costs the same`
`15:40.43`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`How so?`
`15:40.44`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`Kyahx, why?`
`15:40.52`	`Jens`	`I pity the fools with no epic mounts :)`
`15:40.52`	`nevcairiel`	`only people who got screwed are people who already have two or more epics`
`15:40.52`	`Skyboat`	`epic mounts cost 90g now`
`15:40.53`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`It was going to cost him 600g this weekend for the AV Ram`
`15:40.59`	`cladhaire`	`AV mount costs more aftre the patch, without epic mounts.`
`15:41.00`	`cladhaire`	`trust me.`
`15:41.03`	`cladhaire`	`its my situation.`
`15:41.07`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`Now he has to pay 720g`
`15:41.09`	`nevcairiel`	`AV mount doesnt count.`
`15:41.12`	`cladhaire`	`yes it does`
`15:41.13`	`cladhaire`	`bitch`
`15:41.13`	`Jens`	`90g?! zOMG`
`15:41.18`	`Skyboat`	`AV mount gave my shaman 150 riding skill :)`
`15:41.19`	`nevcairiel`	`its a pvp mount, doesnt count`
`15:41.19`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`15:41.27`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`clad: oh so i made a good choice buying a mount right before the patch?`
`15:41.31`	`Skyboat`	`so I logged on today, went and bought a Swift Orange Raptor for 80g`
`15:41.33`	`cladhaire`	`Moondrake[G5]: I hate you`
`15:41.35`	`Kyahx-Laptop`	`Its not a PvP mount, its a rep-grinding-mount`
`15:41.47`	`nevcairiel`	`i was thinking about getting a second tiger for the 80g`
`15:42.05`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`clad: i never needed it but beforte the pacth i said to myself, hell why not :P`
`15:42.30`	`Skyboat`	`gonna hit rank 11 and buy all 4 mounts for 8g each :D`
`15:42.50`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`i pitty those that already bought 4-5 mounts^^`
`15:43.07`	`CIA-11`	`03thrae * r12119 10PerfectTargets/Core.lua: PerfectTargets -- Added PerfectTargets:IsTargeted(unit,skipPlayer). This can be used by other addons or macros to tell if a unit is targeted by another. Please test.`
`15:43.28`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`thrae?`
`15:43.47`	`Thrae`	`Moondrake[G5]: Yeah?`
`15:44.29`	`Skyboat`	`hehe yeah, glad I didn't pay 800g for a ram before the patch`
`15:44.35`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`you seem to know PTarg^^ is it possible to delete in the lua the Targetname display and tank display, leaving only icon health numberofplayers?`
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`15:45.15`	`sergio`	`I got fucked by the changes but what can you do`
`15:45.21`	`sergio`	`I didn't care about spending gold`
`15:45.28`	`Thrae`	`Moondrake[G5]: I only know that "targets" is the table that holds units that have targets. I think. Hence why I need people to test my changes.`
`15:45.32`	`sergio`	`I have 3 epic mounts from 3 factions`
`15:45.48`	`Thrae`	`Anyway, off to work.`
`15:45.53`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`kk`
`15:46.10`	`sergio`	`the sad part is I have them all banked because of bag space and because I just used the ZG tiger`
`15:46.20`	`Skyboat`	`hmmm, I have...7 epic mounts now, on 5 different chars`
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`15:46.33`	`nevcairiel`	`i want the ZG raptor`
`15:46.38`	`nevcairiel`	`never seen it drop`
`15:46.40`	`Skyboat`	`I want black raptor :)`
`15:46.48`	`sergio`	`lol`
`15:46.50`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`i want flying mounts^^`
`15:46.52`	`Skyboat`	`coolest looking mount in the game imo :)`
`15:46.55`	`sergio`	`I have the orange raptor`
`15:47.02`	`Skyboat`	`orange is nice too`
`15:47.04`	`sergio`	`I might start using it again`
`15:47.07`	`sergio`	`i'm bored of the tiger`
`15:47.13`	`nevcairiel`	`any raptor would be cool`
`15:47.19`	`nevcairiel`	`but as a nightelf thats kinda hard =P`
`15:47.24`	`Skyboat`	`gifv Ravasaurs`
`15:47.47`	`sergio`	`I saw a troll on a ZG Raptor once`
`15:47.51`	`sergio`	`i was sorta confused`
`15:48.03`	`nevcairiel`	`what a waste, trolls can have raptors anyway!`
`15:48.05`	`sergio`	`why the people on the run would let him roll/loot it`
`15:48.24`	`sergio`	`i'd offer to buy him one`
`15:48.29`	`sergio`	`if he was going to loot it`
`15:48.34`	`sergio`	`and I was say, a tauren`
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`15:51.02`	`DarkImakuni`	`Tauren on a Mechanostrider is fun :P`
`15:53.44`	`oxman`	`how it can be possible ?`
`15:53.54`	`DarkImakuni`	`Gnome + Orb of Deciept`
`15:54.00`	`oxman`	`oh ok`
`15:54.05`	`oxman`	`so not a true tauren`
`15:54.16`	`DarkImakuni`	`no unfortunatley :(`
`15:54.30`	`nevcairiel`	`haha`
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`16:03.23`	`snurre`	`gbank duties suck :(`
`16:04.20`	`Mikma`	`gank?`
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`16:04.51`	`nevcairiel`	`damn`
`16:04.59`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikk: sry about that :D`
`16:05.21`	`Saroz`	`Sup peeps`
`16:05.38`	`nevcairiel`	`not much`
`16:05.43`	`nevcairiel`	`reset day and all, loot day :)`
`16:06.04`	`Saroz`	`give naxx phats`
`16:06.16`	`Saroz`	`man blizz downloader sucks`
`16:06.27`	`nevcairiel`	`enGB ?`
`16:06.29`	`Saroz`	`ye`
`16:06.35`	`Saroz`	`using direct download`
`16:06.43`	`nevcairiel`	`http://downloads.nevcairiel.net/patches/WoW-1.12.0.5595-to-1.12.1.5875-enGB-patch.exe`
`16:06.46`	`Saroz`	`ye`
`16:07.01`	`Saroz`	`many times faster`
`16:07.10`	`nevcairiel`	`mine didnt work at all`
`16:07.15`	`Saroz`	`same`
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`16:07.16`	`nevcairiel`	`said tracker down :D`
`16:07.26`	`Mikma`	`olololoo nevcairiel pwned`
`16:08.18`	`nevcairiel`	`oh no.`
`16:08.33`	`nevcairiel`	`you cant spell anything right as it looks`
`16:08.34`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`16:08.46`	`cladhaire`	`phyber: You around?`
`16:08.47`	`Saroz`	`nevcairiel`
`16:08.52`	`Saroz`	`you still got that aguf branch?`
`16:08.52`	`nevcairiel`	`ya?`
`16:08.56`	`nevcairiel`	`sure`
`16:09.02`	`Saroz`	`you sync'ing it?`
`16:09.18`	`nevcairiel`	`i added that last changes to numberformat, yea`
`16:09.23`	`Saroz`	`k`
`16:09.24`	`phyber`	`cladhaire: yeah`
`16:09.28`	`Saroz`	`cause ag refuses to add my changes`
`16:09.29`	`Saroz`	`:/`
`16:09.32`	`Saroz`	`anyway, brb, pizza`
`16:09.40`	`phyber`	`waiting around for a lift home from work. got a ton of mountain dew that I don't feel like carrying home ;)`
`16:10.16`	`cladhaire`	`phyber: What MPM do you recommend using for this apache installation.. seems that worker would give us overall better performance compared to prefork`
`16:10.25`	`DarkImakuni`	`Hm I wonder why Blizz left Hunter talents to last :)`
`16:10.36`	`cladhaire`	`* IS ANYONE DOING ANY CRITICAL WORK * I need to shut down the webserver to do some work on it.`
`16:10.44`	`nevcairiel`	`cladhaire: prefork is the only one that supports mod_php afaik`
`16:10.53`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: orly.. why is that?`
`16:11.35`	`nevcairiel`	`i have no idea why exactly, or at least i forgot again.`
`16:11.38`	`nevcairiel`	`but i remember that.`
`16:11.48`	`chrisa`	`If I recall it's because php isn't entirely threadsafe, unless I'm thinking of something else`
`16:11.59`	`chrisa`	`Or at least some php modules are not`
`16:12.12`	`nevcairiel`	`cladhaire`
`16:12.13`	`nevcairiel`	`For now, on Linux (and even UNIX) you should only use the (default) prefork module with PHP. This is specified at compile time. Other MPM modules (any involving threaes) break PHP. This is partly because PHP uses a great number of external libraries, and many or most of them are not thread-safe or thread-aware.`
`16:12.19`	`chrisa`	`I win`
`16:12.25`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: Hrm..`
`16:12.34`	`cladhaire`	`what if we scrap mod_php and use fastcgi for php?`
`16:12.47`	`nevcairiel`	`that could work`
`16:12.55`	`DarkImakuni`	`meh, I'll leave you to it for now... of home :P`
`16:13.01`	`DarkImakuni`	`s/of/off/`
`16:13.02`	`nevcairiel`	`but i dont know how fast "fast"cgi is compared to mod_php`
`16:13.27`	`nevcairiel`	`cladhaire: but you are right, other MPMs are much faster.`
`16:13.29`	`DarkImakuni`	`WTB dictionary, so I cna lern2spel`
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`16:13.50`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: http://www.gnegg.ch/archives/305-mod_php,-LightTPD,-FastCGI-Whats-fastest.html`
`16:13.53`	`cladhaire`	`is one place i'm looking`
`16:14.49`	`nevcairiel`	`looks like you dont lose much speed, if those numbers are right.`
`16:15.23`	`cladhaire`	`yeah.. but its against what php wants us to do.`
`16:15.32`	`cladhaire`	`If you feel you have to use a threaded MPM, look at a FastCGI configuration where PHP is running in its own memory space.`
`16:16.46`	`nevcairiel`	`it would get mod_php out of the memory for svn and file calls.`
`16:16.49`	`nevcairiel`	`which would be good`
`16:16.54`	`nevcairiel`	`and worker is great anyway`
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`16:18.19`	`cladhaire`	`yeah, that's why i'm considering it.`
`16:19.11`	`Mikma`	`whatever makes us happy yeah baby!`
`16:21.11`	`nevcairiel`	`but its amazing how much APC does on that chart.`
`16:21.18`	`nevcairiel`	`more then doubled the performance`
`16:21.34`	`phyber`	`bbl, lift home is here.`
`16:22.59`	`cladhaire`	`i have 40 minutes`
`16:23.02`	`cladhaire`	`taking server down so i can work on this`
`16:23.12`	`nevcairiel`	`go for it`
`16:23.13`	`Plorkyeran`	`Yeah, php pretty much requires an opcode cache for decent performance`
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`16:23.15`	`nevcairiel`	`before someone says no`
`16:23.42`	`DrDre\|ZZZ`	`dunno why IE was on my quick launch bar but gone now!`
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`16:24.21`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: FIX IT FIIIIX IIIT!`
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`16:24.28`	`Mikma`	`go go you can do it!`
`16:24.34`	`DrDre`	`LOL`
`16:24.35`	`Mikma`	`woot!`
`16:24.39`	`nevcairiel`	`pssst, dont talk to him`
`16:24.45`	`Mikma`	`mugshot or gore-gallery?`
`16:25.07`	`Mikma`	`talk to who`
`16:25.08`	`Mikma`	`me?`
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`16:27.47`	`Mikma`	`i like this movie :D National Treasure`
`16:29.25`	`cladhaire`	`its kinda a fun movie`
`16:29.25`	`Angeris`	`hmm`
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`16:29.57`	`Angeris`	`a quick question cause i cant catch up with the channel ,where from can i svn update the addons?`
`16:30.19`	`Mikma`	`teh siiiimpsoooooons`
`16:31.22`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
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`16:31.34`	`cladhaire`	`that page is down at the moment.. but yes.. that's where you need to look`
`16:31.37`	ag`	`Does anyone have a copy of MountMe laying around?`
`16:31.37`	`Angeris`	`i clicked them all :/`
`16:31.38`	`Xuerian`	`Oh.`
`16:31.42`	`Xuerian`	`<_<`
`16:31.43`	`Xuerian`	`>_>`
`16:32.04`	`nevcairiel`	ag`: if it was in trunk, yes, i have all trunk addons since my externals updating feast :D
`16:32.10`	`Angeris`	`i hope you wont wipe us today!!!! :p`
`16:32.17`	ag`	`nevcairiel, nm... It's not Ace2 =(`
`16:32.33`	ag`	`I'm not going to install Ace1 again for one addon`
`16:32.45`	ag`	`hm, what to do`
`16:32.51`	`nevcairiel`	ag`: my version is
`16:32.52`	`nevcairiel`	`well`
`16:32.56`	`nevcairiel`	`it looks like it is`
`16:32.58`	ag`	`oh?`
`16:33.04`	`nevcairiel`	`but has Ace as dependency`
`16:33.06`	`nevcairiel`	`for some reason`
`16:33.10`	ag`	`Mmm`
`16:33.14`	ag`	`Can I take a look at it?`
`16:33.14`	`nevcairiel`	`MountMe = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceEvent-2.0", "AceModuleCore-2.0", "AceConsole-2.0", "AceDB-2.0", "AceHook-2.0", "AceDebug-2.0")`
`16:33.17`	`nevcairiel`	`sure looks ace2`
`16:33.18`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`16:33.39`	`nevcairiel`	`its using some ace1 libs`
`16:33.45`	`nevcairiel`	`like SpecialEventsEmbed-1`
`16:33.51`	ag`	`Oh, so it still requires Ace?`
`16:33.55`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah :/`
`16:34.01`	ag`	`Guess I will have to find a standalone then`
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`16:36.15`	`nevcairiel`	`aw tekkub wrote mountme, so no chance for a full ace2 soon`
`16:36.28`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`nev: do it`
`16:36.31`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`NOW`
`16:36.34`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`�ow`
`16:36.38`	`nevcairiel`	`no not now`
`16:36.38`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`~now`
`16:36.47`	`purl`	`[now] a good time to tell you that I have 6 gigabytes of data`
`16:36.47`	`nevcairiel`	`raiding naxx in 15mins`
`16:36.52`	`sergio`	`what's mountme just a random mount picker?`
`16:37.10`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`nev: good hunting`
`16:37.19`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`~later`
`16:37.21`	`purl`	`from memory, later is now`
`16:38.03`	`Mikma`	`heh`
`16:38.36`	`grzesieq`	`uh`
`16:38.43`	`grzesieq`	`wtf happened to forums`
`16:38.51`	`nevcairiel`	`its down for maintenance`
`16:38.54`	`grzesieq`	`and why is password not protected? oO`
`16:38.55`	`nevcairiel`	`will be back soon`
`16:39.13`	ag`	`the DNS seems to work now`
`16:39.30`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`from earlier: "cladhaire: i have 40 minutes`
`16:39.30`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`cladhaire: taking server down so i can work on this"`
`16:39.38`	`grzesieq`	`i was able to see the text version of Settings.php`
`16:40.07`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`hmm you saw the maps of the new starting zones for Draenai and BloodElves?`
`16:40.15`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`Silvermoon is HUGE`
`16:40.21`	`grzesieq`	`link pls`
`16:40.32`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`http://wow.gamona.de/images/upload/2563.jpg`
`16:40.45`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`and bloodevles:`
`16:40.46`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`http://wow.gamona.de/images/upload/2562.jpg`
`16:41.20`	`grzesieq`	`kewl`
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`16:41.31`	`Korrigan`	`!trunk FuBar_CorkFu`
`16:42.14`	`Korrigan`	`hmm www.wowace.com is offline and the bot wont tell me where i can download corkfu?`
`16:42.22`	`grzesieq`	`maintenance`
`16:42.30`	`Saroz`	`everything is fubar`
`16:42.46`	`Korrigan`	`:)`
`16:43.05`	`Korrigan`	`the corkfu version i downloaded 3 hours ago is a bit bugged`
`16:43.52`	`DrDre`	`odd, when i do setHyperLink right after doing it on another item, it gave me an error`
`16:45.18`	`FISKER_Q`	`wowace down?`
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`16:49.10`	`JoshBorke`	`FISKER_Q: yes`
`16:49.39`	`nevcairiel`	`mainteance`
`16:49.49`	`nevcairiel`	`s/an/na/`
`16:49.54`	`nevcairiel`	`bah`
`16:49.59`	`nevcairiel`	`still an n missing`
`16:50.08`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`16:50.14`	`JoshBorke`	`maintenance`
`16:50.23`	`JoshBorke`	`everyone spell it with me now`
`16:50.56`	`ven`	`M-A-I-N-T-E-N-A-N-C-E !`
`16:51.11`	`tumetom`	`http://raidorg.lagcity.de/Addons/`
`16:53.41`	`*** join/#wowace markuss (n=moep@p5492F512.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`16:54.03`	`markuss`	`is the site down ?`
`16:55.13`	`FISKER_Q`	`<general complaint about downtime with hobby projects>`
`16:55.49`	`JoshBorke`	`markuss: maintenace`
`16:55.52`	`JoshBorke`	`;-)`
`16:56.31`	`FISKER_Q`	`i like maintanence better`
`16:56.32`	`markuss`	`ah ok sry didnt know`
`16:56.41`	`PX_Hakker`	`holy crap half of fubar is f0r0rd with the patch here`
`16:56.51`	`markuss`	`just was in the middle of testing some new addons`
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`16:57.34`	`markuss`	`how long until maintenance is completed ?`
`17:00.51`	`PX_Hakker`	`depends`
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`17:01.08`	`PX_Hakker`	`most realms are expected to be back at thursday`
`17:01.17`	`sbu`	`ahh, got my subtlety enchant :)`
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`17:03.02`	`JoshBorke`	`cladhaire: ping`
`17:03.16`	`JoshBorke`	`well, really, any op. update topic to reflect status of website?`
`17:04.12`	`oxman`	`cladhaire why you don't commit my modification about buff ?`
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`17:10.20`	`cladhaire`	`oxman: Are you serious?`
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`17:10.34`	`FISKER_Q`	`btw tumetom`
`17:10.35`	`cladhaire`	`JoshBorke: Do you want me to put that I'm going to be taking the server up and down for maintenance?`
`17:10.40`	`cladhaire`	`no on reads the fucking topic, so its not going to help anyone.`
`17:10.55`	`cladhaire`	`if they can get to it.. its up.. if not.. its down =(`
`17:11.18`	`FISKER_Q`	`people want to know :)`
`17:11.25`	`cladhaire`	`that's the answer`
`17:11.29`	`kergoth`	`whee, bartender2 lost my settings once again`
`17:11.41`	`oxman`	`yep i am cladhaire`
`17:11.47`	`MoonWolf`	`its never done that to me....`
`17:11.48`	`MoonWolf`	`weird.`
`17:11.57`	`*** topic/#wowace by cladhaire -> http://www.wowace.com \| http://ace.pastey.net \| http://www.lua.org/pil \| http://www.wowace.com/flyspray \| If you cannot get to http://www.wowace.com/ then either your DNS is not updated yet, or the server is down.`
`17:12.02`	`cladhaire`	`oxman: I haven't had time.`
`17:12.12`	`oxman`	`it take 2mn :\|`
`17:12.13`	`cladhaire`	`oxman: I have lots of changes to make tin that section of the code`
`17:12.15`	`tumetom`	`FISKER_Q what do people like to know?`
`17:12.19`	`Kebinusan`	`~8ball is Wowace.com up?`
`17:12.21`	`purl`	`Absolutely.`
`17:12.33`	`nevcairiel`	`kergoth: did you have my changes from yesterday night?`
`17:12.36`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`ah Nice page up now ^^`
`17:13.11`	`kergoth`	`havent updated stuff yet, my server's been down`
`17:13.42`	`nevcairiel`	`i changed some stuff that should avoid reseting, hopefully`
`17:13.47`	`nevcairiel`	`last chance :D`
`17:14.55`	`kergoth`	`yay`
`17:15.02`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`hm.. is it normal... i updated my sct over the ZIP files... and missing libs`
`17:15.12`	`FISKER_Q`	`tumetom was to cladhaire`
`17:15.47`	`FISKER_Q`	`just wanted to say that your site has a problem with 33+ addons selected :P`
`17:19.24`	`kergoth`	`FFOS\|Darclite: the paths to the svn changed, but not all the externals have been updated to point at the new paths.`
`17:20.32`	`nevcairiel`	`anyone on EU servers and expierencing disconnects like hell as well?`
`17:20.50`	`labzuk`	`yes i do since this morning`
`17:21.27`	`nevcairiel`	`half our guild has it in naxx right now`
`17:21.33`	`labzuk`	`everything is fine, i don't have any lag but i'm getting disconnected randomly`
`17:22.36`	`Xuerian`	`FFOS\|Darclite: Grey has to update SCT. He has it locked so no one can fix it.`
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`17:23.03`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`Oki thx both for the information :) i keep on going with old version`
`17:23.41`	`nevcairiel`	`yay for the retards who spam all the other servers once theirs are down for maintenance`
`17:27.13`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`17:27.38`	`phyber`	`yeah. where would we be without them.`
`17:27.47`	`phyber`	`wait... ironforge.`
`17:27.58`	`CIA-11`	`03mikma * r12121 10Bartender2_Dreamlayout/Bartender2_Dreamlayout.toc: Bartender2_Dreamlayout: .toc changes`
`17:28.09`	`nevcairiel`	`we would probably be in front of patchwerk right now`
`17:31.29`	`Gamefaq`	`we are at anub right now but have terrible lag and disc�s :(`
`17:32.35`	`nevcairiel`	`we are going spider wing now, no chance in abowing`
`17:33.00`	`nevcairiel`	`one second lag on patchwerk is death`
`17:33.01`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`17:33.18`	`CIA-11`	`03grimwald 07Grimwald * r12122 10oRA2_Buff/oRA2_Buff/ (Libs/ Optional/Buff.lua Optional/Timer.lua):`
`17:33.19`	`CIA-11`	`oRA2_Buff:`
`17:33.19`	`CIA-11`	`* always unregister candybars on update and register new ones - let candybar handle the reusing... ;)`
`17:33.19`	`CIA-11`	`* Fixed copy-paste bug for Blessing of Sanctuary (thanks Parintele!)`
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`17:37.21`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`btw whos author of oSkin`
`17:37.44`	`FISKER_Q`	`http://media.arstechnica.com/staff.media/vulnerabilities.png`
`17:37.50`	`FISKER_Q`	`i proved my point`
`17:37.50`	`FISKER_Q`	`;D`
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`17:39.24`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`hm.. aint lookign good for firefox... but for wich version is that? test of 1.5?`
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`17:39.38`	`Shinja`	`hi`
`17:39.46`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`hi`
`17:40.06`	`Shinja`	`where to get latest addon now ?`
`17:40.14`	`nevcairiel`	`at the moment, no where`
`17:40.18`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`down evrything`
`17:40.24`	`blubbo`	`isn't it good that they find the vilnerabilities though? ;) would be worse if they didn't...`
`17:40.55`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`true`
`17:41.14`	`Shinja`	`hum it's bad :s`
`17:41.20`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`well :) i love my firefox :) and the new design in RC1 of ff2 is nice too :)`
`17:42.05`	`CIA-11`	`03nevcairiel * r12123 10FixMe/FixMe.lua: FixMe: changed to 1.12.1 since all fixes are still needed.`
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`17:43.48`	`Saroz`	`wasn't BG minimap fixed?`
`17:44.19`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`and plz :) if somone knows the oskin author ^^ tell me his name want to show him a bug`
`17:45.28`	`Mikma`	`FISKER_Q: GOOOOO OPERA!`
`17:46.11`	`Xuerian`	`FFOS\|Darclite: There's a lot of authors.`
`17:46.20`	`Mikma`	`and GOOOOO SAFARIIII!`
`17:46.24`	`FISKER_Q`	`I don't know the specifics of the test but my poiny is just that when it comes down to it FF and IE are very alike`
`17:46.34`	`FISKER_Q`	`One main difference though is that IE has a way bigger market`
`17:46.41`	`FISKER_Q`	`One you'd rather exploit than Firefox`
`17:46.41`	`Xuerian`	`haste sortof started it, but then everyone and their brother's uncle's first cousin's monkey has added to it`
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`17:49.49`	`FtH\|eagle`	`Did anyone encounter the same bug in firefox that from one second to another it loads every image on every reload and doesn't use the cache anymore? It happened to me now the 3rd time and I have to reinstall to get rid of it ...`
`17:50.07`	`Xuerian`	`Nope...`
`17:50.13`	`nevcairiel`	`never had..`
`17:50.21`	`FtH\|eagle`	`that sucks so bad`
`17:50.21`	`nevcairiel`	`the rc or 1.5 ?`
`17:50.25`	`FtH\|eagle`	`1.5`
`17:50.32`	`nevcairiel`	`nope, never happend`
`17:50.38`	`FtH\|eagle`	`3 times in maybe 6 months now`
`17:50.52`	`FtH\|eagle`	`and I have no clue why`
`17:51.00`	`Andalia`	`never heard of such a bug O_o`
`17:51.33`	`FtH\|eagle`	`it worked when I came home from work, without restarting or changing anything, I have that bug now`
`17:52.14`	`ven`	`I had that bug with IE ages ago :o`
`17:52.35`	`phyber`	`is there a way to do this in one line...`
`17:52.36`	`phyber`	`line2cost = string.gsub(tipline2, string.gsub(MANA_COST, "%%d", ""), "")`
`17:52.37`	`phyber`	`line2cost = tonumber(line2cost)`
`17:52.39`	`Andalia`	`maybe you should check out any non-default values in about:config`
`17:52.50`	`phyber`	`I tried putting the tonumber() around the string.gsub, but it doesn't like that.`
`17:52.57`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`Xuerian is it fine if i post pic in here? with well bug* ...`
`17:53.14`	`FtH\|eagle`	`the problem with this bug is every picture will be loaded, no matter if there are 10 or 20 of the same on the current page, so the loading time explodes now`
`17:53.23`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`the Rank icon and title name ect... aint really in the Progress Bar`
`17:53.43`	`Xuerian`	`Huh?`
`17:53.53`	`Andalia`	`FtH\|eagle: You could try fasterfox. It might change something to fix it`
`17:53.57`	`kergoth`	`wheres a good version of warmup, that does collectgarbage for accuracy?`
`17:54.01`	`Xuerian`	`FFOS\|Darclite: Post what pic?`
`17:54.10`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`http://www.myffos.net/downloads/images/honortab.jpg`
`17:54.13`	`FtH\|eagle`	`already have that add-on`
`17:54.28`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`not sure if its oskin or blizz`
`17:54.47`	`Xuerian`	`m`
`17:55.10`	`Xuerian`	`Hm*... I'm the only monkey of a brother of a uncle of everyone who hasn't touched oSkin, personally :P`
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`17:57.26`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`ah yeah wait going to make now screenshot of my bar... the character/reputation ect... are well :) sec for pic`
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`17:58.43`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`http://www.myffos.net/downloads/images/tabs.jpg`
`17:58.47`	`kergoth`	`hehe, server just came back up, theres a grand total of 32 pages in the auction house`
`17:58.50`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`the tabs going out of the main window kinda`
`17:59.44`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`ah and who ever is workign on bartender XD hope oyu will add sticky bars ^^`
`17:59.51`	`Xuerian`	`FFOS\|Darclite: It almost looks like they're obeying font width`
`18:00.03`	`Xuerian`	`Since your font is smoooshing the stats together too`
`18:00.24`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`ah yeah might be... useing fontabolouse`
`18:01.52`	`sergio`	`[Ammo]: Is commenting out luas for boss mods for let's say ZG/AQ20 etc the best way to disable stuff I won't ever use or is there a way that would make more sense`
`18:02.00`	`Xuerian`	`In that case you might be able to edit the oskin settings manually... I'd tell you where, but I haven't updated it in weeks <.<`
`18:02.06`	`sergio`	`(in the toc)`
`18:02.29`	`Xuerian`	`Also, 6kG? Damn 0_o`
`18:02.31`	`Mikma`	`not that clad ain't here i can throw in my joke`
`18:02.34`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`^^ ai it would be nice if you can tell me how ^^`
`18:02.52`	`Mikma`	`"now i can stop my ddos-bots from hammering www.wowace.com"`
`18:02.55`	`CIA-11`	`03phyber * r12124 10ManaPerc/ManaPerc.lua:`
`18:02.55`	`CIA-11`	`ManaPerc:`
`18:02.55`	`CIA-11`	`- Another small optimization, one local (line2costd) removed \o/`
`18:03.13`	`Xuerian`	`lol`
`18:04.13`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`well. 8k XD you aint see alts`
`18:04.28`	`Xuerian`	`FFOS\|Darclite: Give me a few minutes, been working on a site. I'll get the latest version and see what you should change.`
`18:04.33`	`FtH\|eagle`	`haha, updated to 2.0 rc1, same problem`
`18:04.35`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`and no never bought from AH... was lucky getting that uber sword ^^`
`18:04.41`	`Xuerian`	`lol. I have a grand total of 30g XD`
`18:04.45`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`ok`
`18:04.49`	`sbu`	`wahhh`
`18:04.54`	`sbu`	`zul gurub bats exploding again? :/`
`18:05.25`	`steino`	`oO`
`18:05.28`	`phyber`	`\o/`
`18:05.34`	`phyber`	`another one caught off guard :p`
`18:05.40`	`phyber`	`bwahaha`
`18:07.22`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`ah now i remember i sold once Tebus longsword ... for huge amount on AH Xd`
`18:11.01`	`sbu`	`ok - zul bats are really exploding again! :p`
`18:12.23`	`phyber`	`did you explode yourself twice to confirm it? :)`
`18:13.07`	`evl`	`HALLELUJ`
`18:13.08`	`evl`	`http://bitsandpieces1.blogspot.com/2006/09/jesus-image-found-in-dogs-butt.html`
`18:13.12`	`evl`	`he's returned!`
`18:13.14`	`evl`	`in an anus!`
`18:13.31`	`Mikma`	`lol`
`18:13.34`	`Mikma`	`looks alike`
`18:13.35`	`phyber`	`grrr. wowwiki isn't working here. anyone know what function will tell you the ID of a slot that the mouse is currently over?`
`18:15.34`	`Xuerian`	`Well, FFOS\|Darclite... Seeing as /files is down, svn is down (win), gotta find another avenue for getting it :P`
`18:16.02`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`ah well not really badly needed yet`
`18:16.18`	`cladhaire`	`Xuerian: Since when are they down?`
`18:16.55`	`Xuerian`	`Not down, per-se, but not functional for my twisted computer XD. Tortise shouted at me, /files never did end up loading.`
`18:17.49`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`lol`
`18:18.06`	`nevcairiel`	`cladhaire: is it running on the new setup now?`
`18:18.10`	`Xuerian`	`See, I just said it so you'd comment, then it'd work`
`18:18.16`	`Xuerian`	`<_<`
`18:18.18`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: no`
`18:18.32`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: I had to revert.. still working on getting php running under fcgid`
`18:18.38`	`nevcairiel`	`ah ok`
`18:18.40`	`cladhaire`	`which is threadsafe`
`18:18.53`	`cladhaire`	`or rather, is single threaded`
`18:20.20`	`Mikma`	`hmm`
`18:20.35`	`Mikma`	`the maintenancetime has been extended to 29th 3am`
`18:20.47`	`nevcairiel`	`29th is in like 3 days`
`18:20.49`	`nevcairiel`	`haha!`
`18:20.52`	`nevcairiel`	`eh 2 days`
`18:21.26`	`Mikma`	`oh soz`
`18:21.27`	`Mikma`	`28th :D`
`18:21.43`	`nevcairiel`	`thats just one hour longer`
`18:21.48`	`nevcairiel`	`its been 2am all the time`
`18:23.46`	`Xuerian`	`It does seem to be your font, FFOS\|Darclite. Looking for it in oskin's junk :P`
`18:24.55`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: it was 12 and 12 before`
`18:24.57`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`ok :) thx Xuerian`
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`18:26.46`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`ah btw when i scale ora2 MT targets down... the tank name goes into the health % ... like Darc%lite`
`18:28.05`	`nevcairiel`	`dont scale it too much down.`
`18:28.19`	`Xuerian`	`FFOS\|Darclite: With the latest version from files, I think it's line 30 in CharacterFrames1.lua`
`18:31.54`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`what to change in tehre`
`18:31.58`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`font size only`
`18:32.37`	`Xuerian`	`nah`
`18:32.50`	`Xuerian`	`You want to change the multiplier for the tab width, it'll be hard to override font size I think :P`
`18:33.03`	`Xuerian`	`tabName:SetWidth(tabName:GetWidth() * 0.8) --- lower 0.8 incrimentally till you find something that works`
`18:33.11`	`Xuerian`	`0.7 or .65 should work`
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`18:37.17`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`ah thx Xuerian 0.7 was good :) 65 is bit too small`
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`18:39.24`	`nevcairiel`	`haha just noticed something funny in Naxx`
`18:39.43`	`nevcairiel`	`those animations you get once you cleared a wing, that light next to the entrypoint`
`18:40.09`	`Pucmel`	`?`
`18:40.25`	`CIA-11`	`03sano * r12125 10tri/ (12 files): TargetRaidIcons: Initial Import`
`18:40.27`	`Pucmel`	`it is the teleport, from the last boss in the wing`
`18:41.41`	`nevcairiel`	`ye`
`18:41.49`	`nevcairiel`	`i was bored and looked out of the window`
`18:42.00`	`nevcairiel`	`those light-things are hovering below naxx`
`18:42.07`	`nevcairiel`	`probably only moved up once you clear the wing`
`18:42.32`	`Pucmel`	`yarr`
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`18:44.45`	`kergoth`	`meh, i hate patches`
`18:44.48`	`kergoth`	`itemcache all empty`
`18:45.58`	`CIA-11`	`03phyber * r12126 10ManaPerc/ManaPerc.toc:`
`18:45.58`	`CIA-11`	`ManaPerc:`
`18:45.58`	`CIA-11`	`- Added missing Libs entries to TOC.`
`18:45.58`	`CIA-11`	`- Added X-Category to TOC.`
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`18:46.32`	`CIA-11`	`03sano * r12127 10FuBar_AceWardrobeFu/FuBar_AceWardrobeFu.toc: FuBar_AceWardrobeFu: Updated .toc`
`18:47.19`	`CIA-11`	`03phyber * r12128 10ManaPerc/Libs/:`
`18:47.19`	`CIA-11`	`ManaPerc:`
`18:47.19`	`CIA-11`	`- Fixed missing AceOO external.`
`18:49.22`	`Cheads`	`svn.wowace.com/files isn't working right now?`
`18:49.35`	`sergio`	`nope`
`18:49.48`	`Cheads`	`ok goodie`
`18:50.06`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`www.wowace.com/files`
`18:50.14`	`sergio`	`wait it works now`
`18:50.25`	`Saroz`	`SVn is alive!`
`18:51.29`	`CIA-11`	`03sano * r12129 10Aggromemnon/ (. Aggromemnon.toc core.lua): Aggromemnon: Initial Import. Aggro alerter.`
`18:51.38`	`malreth`	`hahaha!`
`18:51.42`	`malreth`	`awesome name`
`18:51.45`	`Angeris`	`aggromemnon`
`18:51.46`	`Angeris`	`lol`
`18:51.59`	`malreth`	`when you install it, it comes with its own concubine`
`18:52.23`	`Azurewrath`	`mhm.. anyone in a guild who got an Atiesh or one of the pieces from c'thun/kel'thuzad?`
`18:52.42`	`Pucmel`	`why ?`
`18:52.53`	`Saroz`	`whats this aggromemnon`
`18:52.59`	`Pucmel`	`if you get the staff quest the cthun / kt drop is 100%`
`18:53.12`	`malreth`	`based on the description, Saroz, it's an aggro alerter`
`18:53.16`	`Saroz`	`oooooo`
`18:53.30`	`chrisa`	`Azurewrath: We have the C'Thun piece, not Kel yet`
`18:54.18`	`Saroz`	`guild?`
`18:54.33`	`Azurewrath`	`chrisa: i have 2 splinters so far.. do i have to bring them to a questgiver or sth, are the pieces random drops, or do they drop only if i have all 40 pieces? :)`
`18:54.45`	`Pucmel`	`100% drop`
`18:54.49`	`Saroz`	`only if you have the 40`
`18:54.51`	`Pucmel`	`after you complete the staff and finish the quest`
`18:55.13`	`chrisa`	`If you get the quest to get the other two pieces they're guaranteed`
`18:55.13`	`Azurewrath`	`ah ok, so 100% drop after i have all 40?`
`18:55.18`	`chrisa`	`If you don't get the quest, no drops`
`18:55.23`	`Mikma`	`aggroalerter? he haven't seen BanzaiAlert? :D`
`18:55.28`	`Azurewrath`	`k, thanks guys :)`
`18:55.32`	`Saroz`	`METER`
`18:55.34`	`Saroz`	`aggro METER`
`18:56.15`	`malreth`	`BanzaiAlert's name isn't as cool as Aggromemnon`
`18:56.25`	`*** join/#wowace Royal- (n=m@cp291458-a.landg1.lb.home.nl)`
`18:56.26`	`Saroz`	`ok wait`
`18:56.28`	`Saroz`	`it's an alerter`
`18:56.28`	`Azurewrath`	`BanzaiAlert is no aggrometer.. is it? :)`
`18:56.29`	`Saroz`	`not a mater`
`18:56.35`	`Saroz`	`meter*`
`18:56.40`	`Mikma`	`nope it's aggroalerter`
`18:56.43`	`Mikma`	`and it rocks :D`
`18:56.49`	`BoltR`	`Aggromenot is an aggro alerter too`
`18:56.54`	`Azurewrath`	`mhm.. should try it :)`
`18:56.54`	`BoltR`	`If you read the commit comments ;p`
`18:57.05`	`Mikma`	`<Mikma> aggroalerter? he haven't seen BanzaiAlert? :D`
`18:57.13`	`Mikma`	`dum di dum`
`18:59.49`	`*** join/#wowace fleetfoot (n=fleetfoo@c-1b9b72d5.014-202-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)`
`19:00.42`	`AxiumKT`	`gawd is the svn still getting slammed?`
`19:03.23`	`BoltR`	`I'm going to assume so, as I just tried to check out BigWigs, and the externals are taking 15 seconds each`
`19:03.27`	`Mikma`	`so, how many of you guys (excluding Tekkub) shave your balls and asscracks? :D`
`19:04.00`	`Cheads`	`lol`
`19:04.13`	`Xuerian`	`0_o`
`19:04.31`	`Xuerian`	`Mikma, dare I ask how this question came about?`
`19:04.44`	`Cheads`	`im not sure I want to know`
`19:04.54`	`Mikma`	`Xuerian: my guildies had an chat about it in MSN moment ago`
`19:05.01`	`Xuerian`	`rofl.`
`19:05.03`	`Xuerian`	`And your answer was?`
`19:05.16`	`Mikma`	`and my gf told them i do it.. and then my guildleader came online and told he does it too ;)`
`19:05.33`	`Mikma`	`and there is this dude screaming "what kind of person would shave his balls!?"`
`19:05.40`	`Mikma`	`and our GL owned his ass`
`19:05.40`	`malreth`	`Mikma is a manscaper`
`19:05.55`	`Xuerian`	`Mine would probably do the same, rofl`
`19:06.32`	`Mikma`	`now they are talking about do they get +dkp if they put a picture of their shaved asses on guildforums`
`19:06.35`	`malreth`	`it's more hygenic... all men should manscape`
`19:06.40`	`Xuerian`	`ROFL`
`19:07.04`	`Mikma`	`malreth: i must agree on that one for all your pleasure :P`
`19:07.11`	`Mikma`	`but it really is hygienic`
`19:08.01`	`PX_Hakker`	`damn why on earth did I pop this window at this time`
`19:08.04`	`Mikma`	`one thing i noticed last summer. being a man andd actually shaving your armpits reduces the incredible smell of man`
`19:09.07`	`Mikma`	`PX_Hakker: because you are interested of shaved balls, just like rest of us`
`19:09.15`	`Xuerian`	`Mikma: That's one thing don't jump for. It's always fun to see if you can knock yourself out with your own man-scent XD`
`19:09.21`	`Mikma`	`it's a issue that no-one want's to talk about but is still in everyones mind`
`19:09.50`	`krka`	`manscape? is that a word?`
`19:09.53`	`Mikma`	`Xuerian: well you can actually haha. just do some sports and smell your armpits / your shirt`
`19:09.54`	`malreth`	`it is now`
`19:10.14`	`Xuerian`	`XD`
`19:10.28`	`Xuerian`	`Mikma: In all serious, doesn't that itch like hell? 0_o`
`19:10.39`	`malreth`	`not if you keep it shaved`
`19:10.54`	`Xuerian`	`Hm. >_>`
`19:11.04`	`PX_Hakker`	`actually no I have been working in shitty conditions like damp weather all day long and then you start it all over about shaving armpits, landscaping your balls and mowing your asscrack`
`19:11.54`	`malreth`	`good night everybody!`
`19:11.56`	`Mikma`	`purl: manscape is <reply> http://www.gillettem3power.com/`
`19:12.04`	`purl`	`okay, Mikma`
`19:12.05`	`Xuerian`	`'night malreth :P`
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`19:13.43`	`malreth`	`the m3 reminds me of this old Onion article... how true it turned out to be: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33930?issue=4228&special=2004`
`19:16.23`	`axxo`	`those click to heal addons, do they swap target & back or is there a function to cast spells on target player & keep your normal target?`
`19:16.33`	`cladhaire`	`http://www.shaveeveryrhing.com`
`19:16.38`	`sergio`	`mowing your asscrack`
`19:16.40`	`Mikma`	`axxo: yeah, and it's so fast you don't even notice it`
`19:16.42`	`sergio`	`i didn't expect to read that in here`
`19:16.55`	`cladhaire`	`axxo: Look at Clique:CastSpell() in Clique.. that's the logic that needs to happen`
`19:16.55`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: Firefox can't find the server at www.shaveeveryrhing.com. :(((`
`19:17.14`	`axxo`	`do mobs have an 'id' then or is name+lvl?`
`19:18.24`	`cladhaire`	`damnit.. can't find the link`
`19:18.58`	`Mikma`	`no rush.. dum di dum`
`19:19.19`	`malreth`	`axxo: mobs have no unique identifiers`
`19:19.27`	`malreth`	`unless they're marked with raid icons`
`19:20.04`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: http://shavedballs.com/`
`19:20.24`	`Mikma`	`that site has nothing to do with shaved balls :P`
`19:20.30`	`cladhaire`	`nah.. the one i had was a philips norelco site.`
`19:20.33`	`cladhaire`	`it was actually funny`
`19:20.38`	`*** join/#wowace Shyva (n=n0time@sd511586e.adsl.wanadoo.nl)`
`19:22.36`	`Mikma`	`http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5329-1-wowlua-ce.html`
`19:22.39`	`axxo`	`how come this addon always seem to work even with multiple mobs of the same name & lvl then`
`19:22.42`	`axxo`	`:\`
`19:23.32`	`malreth`	`what addon, axxo?`
`19:24.36`	`axxo`	`clickheal`
`19:24.40`	`Mikma`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVimZLwmASo <3`
`19:25.16`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`bha im getting pissed at ecastingbar.. eror useing summoning portal .. does wowace has also modified casting bar? with nice looks? XD`
`19:25.36`	`Azurewrath`	`FFOS\|Darclite: otravi_castingbar`
`19:25.39`	`kergoth`	`oCB`
`19:25.50`	`malreth`	`it probably either uses SpellTargetUnit() or it changes to target the unit and uses TargetLastTarget()`
`19:25.50`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`oki doki :) will take it`
`19:25.55`	`Mikma`	`kergoth: have you watched this link already? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVimZLwmASo`
`19:25.55`	`Xuerian`	`FFOS\|Darclite: oCB and let oSkin handle the mirrorbar`
`19:25.59`	`kergoth`	`not yet`
`19:26.09`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`oskin changes it too?`
`19:26.27`	`Xuerian`	`oSkin skins the default castbars`
`19:26.27`	`kergoth`	`ocb/otravi_castingbar already looks kickass`
`19:26.31`	`kergoth`	`oskin .. yeah, that`
`19:26.32`	`malreth`	`SpellTargetUnit() is the best way to do it since it won't cause rogues to lose their combo points or something like that`
`19:26.49`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`ill take a look than atm i have the normal castbar hidden`
`19:26.58`	`Xuerian`	`But oCB adds cast delay timers and stuff like eCB, just, lighter and stuff :p`
`19:27.25`	`axxo`	`ic, thanks for all the info`
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`19:29.54`	`phyber`	`my BigWigs seems to enjoy activating the Chromaggus and Nefarian modules at random on this run.`
`19:30.08`	`Mikma`	`kergoth: well, watch it now so i can paste you another :D`
`19:30.15`	`phyber`	`either that, or someone in the raid really is targetting those guys from Vaels room.`
`19:30.20`	`Nightm`	`my ouf doesn't seem to like me today :P`
`19:30.57`	`Nightm`	`did I fuck up or can I blame the patch? >.>`
`19:32.05`	`Mikma`	`yes`
`19:33.20`	`CIA-11`	`03ag * r12130 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:`
`19:33.20`	`CIA-11`	`ag_UnitFrames`
`19:33.20`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:34.52`	ag`	`Mikma, I guess that fixes your whine:D`
`19:35.02`	`Mikma`	ag`: dunno. does it? :D
`19:35.13`	`Nightm`	`oh hey... my !!!Libraries/libs is empty...`
`19:35.14`	ag`	`I don't know, I play on a PvP server!`
`19:35.25`	`Nightm`	`that might explain some stuff :P`
`19:35.29`	`*** join/#wowace [Ez]Dustwhisper (n=ask@167.80-202-19.nextgentel.com)`
`19:35.56`	`Mikma`	ag`: you still have pvp going on and off just like i do :)
`19:36.24`	ag`	`well it updates when i do /pvp`
`19:36.26`	ag`	`then I get an icon`
`19:36.30`	`BoltR`	`Yeah, you can go from a contested to friendly zone nd watch that`
`19:36.39`	`BoltR`	`and visa versa`
`19:36.55`	`Nightm`	`can someone with SVN-Access try to fix the !!!Libraries folder? please?`
`19:37.03`	`Mikma`	ag`: and what about when it should go away?
`19:37.43`	`Mikma`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dABUnKTgUyA`
`19:38.26`	ag`	`Mikma, dunno, I am in a BG now`
`19:38.31`	`BoltR`	`All I can say is, after this 1.5 days of downtime, I better see a difference in tonights raid`
`19:38.33`	`kergoth`	`haha, critman is so pointless`
`19:38.34`	`kergoth`	`but amusing`
`19:38.37`	`BoltR`	`As i'm sure not seeing one now`
`19:38.44`	`Mikma`	`kergoth: POOF!`
`19:38.59`	`Nightm`	`no knight in shining armor to help me? :P`
`19:39.17`	`Mikma`	`sorry, ckknight ain't here now`
`19:39.22`	`*** join/#wowace Mery2 (i=metelman@p54AEFED7.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`19:39.38`	`*** join/#wowace Jarentha1 (n=Bob@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)`
`19:39.43`	`BoltR`	`I thought that the general opinion was using !!Libraries was bad? :/`
`19:40.06`	`Nightm`	`maybe so..`
`19:40.19`	`Nightm`	`that means I have to update all my mods though :P`
`19:40.36`	`Xuerian`	`Which is easy ;P`
`19:40.55`	`Nightm`	`not when I've changed them myself alot :p`
`19:41.18`	`Xuerian`	`=\`
`19:41.19`	`sergio`	`why is it bad :(`
`19:41.38`	`sergio`	`i wanted to try it for load times`
`19:44.20`	`Nightm`	`I'll just update unmodded mods until I haev allt he libs XD`
`19:44.33`	*** join/#wowace Arrowmaster` (i=Arrow@cpe-24-209-111-105.woh.res.rr.com)
`19:44.41`	`Xuerian`	`Good, 'cause that's one bleeding long externals list`
`19:49.23`	`BoltR`	`Hmm`
`19:49.41`	`BoltR`	`My character's bar has dissapeared in aguf`
`19:50.02`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`so`
`19:50.03`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`what's this new friggin update then`
`19:50.10`	`BoltR`	`A bunch of bug fixes`
`19:50.15`	`BoltR`	`and new mount changes`
`19:50.24`	`DrDre`	`good mount changes :o`
`19:50.24`	`BoltR`	`Now you can use any faction mount`
`19:50.37`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`\o/`
`19:50.38`	`DrDre`	`no bolt`
`19:50.39`	`Mikma`	`http://slate.kaasu.org/desktop.jpg`
`19:50.42`	`DrDre`	`you still need the faction`
`19:50.42`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`too bad i cant use a gnomemount`
`19:50.43`	`BoltR`	`No?`
`19:50.43`	`kergoth`	`dont you still need exalted to do so though?`
`19:50.43`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`as undead`
`19:50.46`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`19:50.52`	`BoltR`	`It must be to buy them`
`19:50.53`	`Plorkyeran`	`You just need exalted to buy it`
`19:50.59`	`BoltR`	`Yeah`
`19:51.01`	`DrDre`	`its jus cheaper to buy a 2nd epic mount now`
`19:51.03`	`*** join/#wowace Meiun (n=CladaM@c213-89-54-240.cm-upc.chello.se)`
`19:51.12`	`BoltR`	`Because i'm riding around on a cat, and before I could only ride a horde and goat :(`
`19:51.12`	`DrDre`	`your first epic mount still going to cost the same price`
`19:51.12`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`maybe is hould buy my AV mount then`
`19:51.18`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`i only have 1100 gold and undead mount`
`19:51.21`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`i want ze av mount too`
`19:51.38`	`BoltR`	`I only got around to getting my Darnassus rep to revered`
`19:51.40`	`DrDre`	`AV mount is 8g`
`19:51.45`	`BoltR`	`Glad Ididn't go for exhaulted now`
`19:51.47`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`wtf?`
`19:51.52`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`I get the frostwolf for 8 g now???`
`19:51.59`	`Plorkyeran`	`Yeah, but AV mounts are probably going to become incredibly common now`
`19:52.00`	`DrDre`	`if you already have an epic mount, yes`
`19:52.01`	`BoltR`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper, the riding still is 900`
`19:52.10`	`Mikma`	`http://glxblt.reaktio.net/AW.jpg`
`19:52.11`	`BoltR`	`skill`
`19:52.11`	`Plorkyeran`	`Making it kinda pointless as a novelty mount`
`19:52.12`	`BoltR`	`not still`
`19:52.25`	`DrDre`	`its not really novelty alot of ppl get it for cheaperness`
`19:52.31`	`DrDre`	`you act like exalted is hard to hit :p`
`19:52.37`	`Plorkyeran`	`It's not exactly much cheaper`
`19:52.41`	`DrDre`	`AV is prolly more common than faction mounts`
`19:52.45`	`DrDre`	`it was before patch`
`19:52.53`	`Plorkyeran`	`Only 160g`
`19:52.56`	`DrDre`	`now its only 72g cheaper`
`19:53.04`	`BoltR`	`Yeah`
`19:53.11`	`*** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@dyndsl-085-016-155-041.ewe-ip-backbone.de)`
`19:53.23`	`BoltR`	`They probably did it because people were just waiting till rank 11 to get their epic mount :/`
`19:53.40`	`DrDre`	`now ppl getting rank 11 are screwed ;p`
`19:53.45`	`DrDre`	`they can get it cheap`
`19:53.46`	`DrDre`	`however`
`19:53.49`	`BoltR`	`Not really`
`19:53.53`	`DrDre`	`they cant buy like AV frostwolf`
`19:53.59`	`BoltR`	`If you are rank 11 i'm going to assume you can still buy the cross faction mounts`
`19:54.01`	`BoltR`	`I'll go check`
`19:54.02`	`DrDre`	`AV* mounts in general i mean`
`19:54.06`	`DrDre`	`you can yes`
`19:54.10`	`DrDre`	`but, you only have 75 skill`
`19:54.11`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`wtf`
`19:54.15`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`do i have to get new riding now`
`19:54.19`	`Plorkyeran`	`They only require 75`
`19:54.19`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`to ride my undead epic mount?`
`19:54.25`	`DrDre`	`so you can ride your rank 11's with 75 skill`
`19:54.27`	`BoltR`	`Yeah`
`19:54.31`	`DrDre`	`but you cant buy AV and use it`
`19:54.32`	`BoltR`	`The rank 11's only need 75`
`19:54.53`	`chrisa`	`If you rank to 11 you can buy all the mounts and use them. But if you want a faction mount otherwise you still need to get exalted just for the vendor to sell it to you :O`
`19:54.59`	`DrDre`	`however, i believe your still going to have to buy the 150 skill come TBC to get 225 to ride flying :P`
`19:55.12`	`BoltR`	`heheh`
`19:55.20`	`Plorkyeran`	`Yeah, but 900g will be nothing then`
`19:55.24`	`BoltR`	`Your skill obviously goes up by riding your current mount ;p`
`19:55.36`	`DrDre`	`no it doesnt lol`
`19:55.42`	`BoltR`	`That was a joke`
`19:55.45`	`DrDre`	`>_>`
`19:56.00`	`BoltR`	`for every day of play time spent riding, it goes up by 1!`
`19:56.20`	`Plorkyeran`	`afk + autorun`
`19:56.21`	`chrisa`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:56.27`	`chrisa`	`Judging by prices and gold drop`
`19:56.29`	`chrisa`	`No`
`19:56.47`	`Plorkyeran`	`Unless they nerf the money drops from all of the current content, it will be`
`19:57.30`	`chrisa`	`A level 61 mob drops 12 silver. I'm not too worried about mass gold inflation considering they're adding more money sinks`
`19:57.39`	`DrDre`	`10 manning MC at lvl 70 would be really good money`
`19:57.51`	`Plorkyeran`	`At level 70, farm the level 60 stuff`
`19:58.02`	`chrisa`	`bleh, MC sucks for gold. BWL is better`
`19:58.06`	`BoltR`	`Ehhhhhh`
`19:58.14`	`BoltR`	`I just noticed that hte rank 11 mounts work at level 40 now`
`19:58.19`	`Plorkyeran`	`A Baron run right now can easily be 15g/hour vendoring all of the drops`
`19:58.21`	`DrDre`	`easier to 10man mc than bwl prolly :P`
`19:58.28`	`Plorkyeran`	`Per person`
`19:59.11`	`DrDre`	`heh`
`19:59.19`	`DrDre`	`my friend 2-3 mans strat undead`
`19:59.31`	`DrDre`	`prolly makes a good 60g/hr`
`19:59.35`	`DrDre`	`err`
`19:59.37`	`DrDre`	`strat living*`
`19:59.45`	`Plorkyeran`	`Yeah, AHing orbs is great money`
`19:59.55`	`DrDre`	`and blues + shards + greys + cloth`
`19:59.56`	`BoltR`	`It no longer is on my server`
`19:59.58`	`Plorkyeran`	`Those'll probably become worthless at 70, though`
`19:59.59`	`DrDre`	`30s per kil on alot of kills`
`19:59.59`	`BoltR`	`as everyone does it now`
`19:59.59`	`chrisa`	`It is? On Tichondrius so many people farm SM that there's no market for it`
`20:00.05`	`BoltR`	`And they are like 25 gold on my server :/`
`20:00.17`	`DrDre`	`40ish on mine, but still good money`
`20:00.27`	`BoltR`	`The trick was running 45 minute barons`
`20:00.27`	`Plorkyeran`	`25g is still great considering you can get several per hour with 2-3 people farming them`
`20:00.35`	`BoltR`	`You take kids for 50 gold each`
`20:00.39`	`DrDre`	`i did 2 runs with him, we each got an orb and i got 4 boe tier 0 peices and we also got a cinna roll book`
`20:00.48`	`BoltR`	`Easy to do with 3 people`
`20:00.56`	`BoltR`	`Probalby possible with 2 guildies`
`20:01.02`	`BoltR`	`So it's either 50 gold or 75 gold a run`
`20:01.09`	`BoltR`	`Plus you make the person paying give you all the drops`
`20:01.11`	`BoltR`	`;p`
`20:01.34`	`BoltR`	`Doens't work nearly as well now that tier 0.5 isn't new :(`
`20:01.48`	`chrisa`	`We still have people paying us to run them through the 45 man baron sometimes`
`20:01.56`	`chrisa`	`I got 50 GSPPs last time :O`
`20:01.57`	`BoltR`	`Yeah, I still get it sometimes`
`20:02.15`	`BoltR`	`Before you could have a waiting list lol`
`20:02.21`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`i solo DM bosses/trash`
`20:02.35`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`gives good money`
`20:02.53`	`chrisa`	`I do the trash in LBRS sometimes out of boredom. Like the first room, first few halls, etc`
`20:03.11`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`yea did that a couple times`
`20:03.14`	`Plorkyeran`	`DM trash was amazing when people still wanted the librams`
`20:03.16`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`sometimes do BRD bosses like incendius`
`20:03.22`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`goddamnit`
`20:03.30`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`ocastingbar is broken after update`
`20:03.41`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`swstats wont open either`
`20:03.55`	`*** join/#wowace Nightm (n=ghallber@h21n5c1o285.bredband.skanova.com)`
`20:04.24`	`Nightm`	`what the heck is wrong with oUF today?`
`20:04.51`	`BoltR`	`My aguf is kinda broken too`
`20:05.19`	`BoltR`	`swstats works fine though`
`20:05.22`	`DrDre`	`i love being an asshole`
`20:05.25`	`Nightm`	`oUF isn't kinda broken, it's not doing anything at all...`
`20:05.33`	`chrisa`	`aguf worked fine for me the last two days`
`20:05.43`	`DrDre`	`this guys always in the yeti cve in winterspring leveling everytime i come in`
`20:05.52`	`DrDre`	`i own em till hes low and let mob kill him for durability hit`
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`20:08.19`	`BoltR`	`I'll just try updating aguf`
`20:08.24`	`BoltR`	`I haven't for 2-3 commits`
`20:08.52`	`Nightm`	`I wish haste wuld update oUF :P`
`20:09.06`	`steino`	`he isnt`
`20:09.53`	`Nightm`	`I know`
`20:09.54`	`Gngsk`	`he hates you`
`20:10.00`	`Gngsk`	`that's why he's not updating oUF`
`20:10.00`	`Nightm`	`but I want it to work again >.<`
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`20:10.21`	`Nightm`	`standard blizz unitframes atm :P`
`20:10.29`	`BoltR`	`I wish ag would have a stroke of genious in the form of a dream which gives him some brilliant idea about how to include smart buff placement!`
`20:14.05`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`go fix ocastingbar, swstats and a couple other mods tbh`
`20:15.07`	`BoltR`	`swstats works fine for me :/`
`20:17.24`	`Mikma`	`i think the worst storm is settling down with wowace.com`
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`20:18.37`	`Nightm`	`can someone direct me to a place where I can download the latest oUF maybe?`
`20:19.19`	`Mikma`	`!branches oUF`
`20:19.22`	`SVNBot`	`The latest revision of oUF is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/branches/oUF/`
`20:19.29`	`Mikma`	`there ya go`
`20:19.33`	`Mikma`	`go fetch`
`20:19.34`	`BoltR`	`Hmm, i'm thiking im going ot need delete my wtf for aguf`
`20:19.50`	`Nightm`	`yay`
`20:20.38`	`Nightm`	`oh well that sucked :P`
`20:20.56`	`Nightm`	`r9224 \| hyperactiveChipmunk \| 2006-08-26 18:02:22 -0400 (Sat, 26 Aug 2006) \| 3 linesoUF (hC branch):- removing because I'm all confused and want to upload a new one >8p`
`20:21.35`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`O_o`
`20:21.44`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`want my current one/`
`20:22.06`	`Nightm`	`nvm I found another dir with it ;)`
`20:24.18`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`what's oUF?`
`20:24.24`	`Mikma`	`whoa`
`20:24.25`	`Mikma`	`http://slate.kaasu.org/mspaintrox3.png`
`20:24.28`	`Mikma`	`check that out :D`
`20:24.32`	`Xuerian`	`Otravi Unitframes`
`20:24.47`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`oh`
`20:24.50`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`i enjoy aguf tbh`
`20:24.58`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`but otravi castingbar tbh i like`
`20:26.01`	`Nightm`	`ah fnially, no more blizzunitframes`
`20:26.02`	`Azurewrath`	`someone have a screenshot of agUF raidframes at hand i could use for showcase-usage in my guilds forum?`
`20:26.59`	`BoltR`	`ocb is working fine for me too ;p`
`20:27.08`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`ocb wont even open for me`
`20:27.11`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`and /ocb doesnt owrk at all`
`20:27.19`	`Nightm`	`anyone using overlord?`
`20:27.19`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`neither does /swstats`
`20:27.52`	`chrisa`	`Azurewrath: nullcode.org/~chris/wow/ui/ui.jpg`
`20:28.01`	`chrisa`	`That's using um... whatever the first frame layout is`
`20:28.06`	`chrisa`	`With me changing the colors`
`20:28.18`	`Saroz`	`here Azurewrath: http://pub.tsn.dk/screendumps/wow/WoWScrnShot_091706_180933.jpg`
`20:28.32`	`*** join/#wowace Larona (n=no@xdsl-213-196-194-73.netcologne.de)`
`20:28.58`	`Saroz`	`and http://pub.tsn.dk/screendumps/wow/WoWScrnShot_090606_234651.jpg`
`20:30.41`	`DrDre`	`Saroz: is that sprocket?`
`20:30.46`	`axxo`	`whats that lootwindow addon?`
`20:30.57`	`DrDre`	`Xloot`
`20:31.05`	`Azurewrath`	`thx :)`
`20:31.52`	`Tekkub`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:31.52`	`AxiumKT`	`wow w/ that first screenshot you can almost see things happening over the stuff`
`20:31.52`	`Saroz`	`no DrDre`
`20:31.52`	`DrDre`	`didnt know one those addons was made for pallys lol`
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`20:32.27`	`Saroz`	`loves it`
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`20:32.46`	`Mikma`	`hi clada`
`20:32.54`	`cladhair1`	`o hai`
`20:32.57`	`JoshBorke`	`wb cladhair1`
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`20:33.35`	`DrDre`	`ooo is the /files/addon/addon.zip a link to the latest commit?`
`20:33.42`	`Mikma`	`yes`
`20:33.48`	`DrDre`	`sweet thats useful`
`20:34.29`	`Azurewrath`	`Saroz: isn't that sRaidFrames for the raidframe part?`
`20:34.31`	`Saroz`	`ye`
`20:34.47`	`Azurewrath`	`uhm, well.. i need agUF ;)`
`20:34.52`	`Saroz`	`meh`
`20:34.58`	`Saroz`	`don't use that for raid frames`
`20:35.30`	`Angeris`	`emm`
`20:35.38`	`Azurewrath`	`me neither, thats why i'm asking for screenshots :)`
`20:35.41`	`Angeris`	`dont talk to saroz plz,cause we are raiding now`
`20:35.45`	`Angeris`	`and he wipes us`
`20:35.49`	`DrDre`	`lolol`
`20:35.54`	`Azurewrath`	`:D`
`20:36.04`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`20:36.07`	`BoltR`	`As long as he does it in cute and halarious manners`
`20:36.10`	`BoltR`	`I approve`
`20:36.12`	`JoshBorke`	`he can just bubble-hearth`
`20:36.25`	`Angeris`	`and what are we supposed to do?`
`20:36.25`	`DrDre`	`>_> 203 folders in my addons folder o.o`
`20:36.36`	`DrDre`	`some are off, but geezus lol`
`20:36.54`	`BoltR`	`Like the time I was going to shield wall through the last locust swarm, and then totally forgot than you can't use abilities while being locust swarms`
`20:36.59`	`BoltR`	`It was too late already!`
`20:37.01`	`BoltR`	`But we didn't wipe`
`20:37.06`	`BoltR`	`Because he was at like 1%`
`20:37.43`	`Saroz`	`ZOMG!`
`20:37.46`	`BoltR`	`However, there were little bugs EVERYWHERE`
`20:38.03`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`20:38.15`	`nevcairiel`	`we canceld naxx today and went mc, garr only for tf .. stupid lag.`
`20:38.26`	`Saroz`	`lol`
`20:38.27`	`Saroz`	`that sucsk`
`20:38.34`	`BoltR`	`Glar`
`20:38.35`	`chrisa`	`MC gives me cancer`
`20:38.38`	`chrisa`	`Everytime I zone in, cancer`
`20:38.43`	`Saroz`	`I don't zone in`
`20:38.44`	`Saroz`	`:p`
`20:38.46`	`steino`	`MC gives me gold in the pocket`
`20:38.54`	`BoltR`	`Our server came up today after 1.5 days of 'hardware upgrades', if there is lag i'm going to kill myself I think`
`20:38.57`	`steino`	`~300g per run :)`
`20:39.20`	`JoshBorke`	`BoltR: there'll be lag`
`20:39.28`	`BoltR`	`Dammit`
`20:40.06`	`chrisa`	`BoltR: Our Hardware Upgrade didn't change a fucking thing on Thaddius`
`20:40.17`	`DrDre`	`lol`
`20:40.20`	`DrDre`	`it helped our server`
`20:40.24`	`Mikma`	`http://slate.kaasu.org/mspaintrox4.png`
`20:40.30`	`BoltR`	`chrisa, a few weeks ago we had a 1 day of downtime for upgrades`
`20:40.32`	`BoltR`	`And that helped`
`20:40.35`	`BoltR`	`alot of Thaddius`
`20:40.50`	`BoltR`	`Then again, before that we were having soft lockups on our server every 15 minutes`
`20:40.54`	`BoltR`	`You would have to wait for one`
`20:40.59`	`BoltR`	`Then start fighting a boss`
`20:41.03`	`Saroz`	`wtb dead thaddius`
`20:41.07`	`BoltR`	`Or else you would wipe to one mid fight`
`20:41.26`	`DrDre`	`does Squeenix fix the minimap buttons movement bound to a circle path problem and make them path correctly when square or do i need another addon to move them to proper locs?`
`20:42.04`	`Tekkub`	`no, it can't fix them`
`20:42.26`	`DrDre`	`k, so what was name of that addon linked other day to make them all freebound moving that you guys 'giggled' at :P?`
`20:42.53`	`Tekkub`	`something about "move" and "minimap buttons"`
`20:43.05`	`SH\|Shabador`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3216`
`20:43.15`	`SH\|Shabador`	`DetachedMiniButtons`
`20:43.18`	`Tekkub`	`that's the one`
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`20:43.37`	`SH\|Shabador`	`Uses elements of Sea, if I'm not mistaken.`
`20:43.51`	`BoltR`	`SeaHooks`
`20:44.06`	`Mikma`	`http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5253-1-ozraid.html :P`
`20:44.13`	`DrDre`	`yeah i jus found it on wowi in history`
`20:44.31`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: go away with that`
`20:44.38`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: i just can't, sorry newb!`
`20:44.53`	`DrDre`	`but thx for link to worldofwar ima get it from there cuz wowi's download links annoy me :P`
`20:45.23`	`DrDre`	`ozraid is meh`
`20:45.24`	`DrDre`	`i didnt like it`
`20:45.39`	`nevcairiel`	`i would never even try it for the screenshots`
`20:45.52`	`Tekkub`	`Aggromomnon giggle`
`20:45.55`	`BoltR`	`It's suppose to be like RDX`
`20:46.19`	`JoshBorke`	`what's wrong with it?`
`20:46.22`	`DrDre`	`too much screen room wasted on the titles`
`20:47.12`	`JoshBorke`	`anything other than that?`
`20:47.18`	`JoshBorke`	`nevcairiel: is that why you wouldn't use it?`
`20:47.23`	`JoshBorke`	`what if you could turn off the titles?`
`20:47.40`	`DrDre`	`ah didnt know you was author :p`
`20:47.47`	`DrDre`	`make them smaller`
`20:47.49`	`nevcairiel`	`i just dont like the layout at all`
`20:47.53`	`DrDre`	`as in height not so high`
`20:48.01`	`nevcairiel`	`and its not ace tbh`
`20:48.02`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`20:48.04`	`DrDre`	`and the bright colors is eh, stands out too much`
`20:48.12`	`BoltR`	`Meh`
`20:48.28`	`JoshBorke`	`nevcairiel: :-P just because something isn't ace doesn't mean it can't run just as well`
`20:48.40`	`AxiumKT`	`Mikma: stop posting that it makes me cry`
`20:48.41`	`nevcairiel`	`i didnt say that`
`20:49.13`	`BoltR`	`I wouldn't use it because I don't care about sorting stuff like that`
`20:49.16`	`nevcairiel`	`but if i have something good ( if ace or not, ace2 in this case ) why should i even try something were the screenshots make me cry ? =D`
`20:49.17`	`JoshBorke`	`i think it has more value for it's backend than the front end`
`20:49.41`	`Mikma`	`AxiumKT: well i paste this to make you laugh http://slate.kaasu.org/mspaintrox4.png`
`20:50.07`	`AxiumKT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:51.25`	`AxiumKT`	`http://www.axiomfiles.com/Files/73160/humpin-resized.jpg imo`
`20:51.46`	`Mikma`	`http://slate.kaasu.org/tricia.jpg`
`20:51.50`	`Mikma`	`waaah :(`
`20:51.55`	`MoonWolf`	`does someone have a download for the eu 1.12.1 patch ?`
`20:52.03`	`sergio`	`oh the face`
`20:52.09`	`nevcairiel`	`english? sure`
`20:52.21`	`MoonWolf`	`give plx`
`20:52.31`	`nevcairiel`	`http://downloads.nevcairiel.net/patches/WoW-1.12.0.5595-to-1.12.1.5875-enGB-patch.exe`
`20:52.32`	`nevcairiel`	`there you go`
`20:55.12`	`DrDre`	`http://wowace.com/files/index.php?path=RogueCounts/ works fine wih bartender2 right?`
`20:55.23`	`nevcairiel`	`in theory, it should`
`20:55.39`	`DrDre`	`k, was looking for something to do that`
`20:56.53`	`DrDre`	`SidebarCombatLog anyone got screenshot of that?`
`20:57.36`	`CIA-11`	`03tekkub * r12131 10FuBar_ToFu/ (FuBar_ToFu.toc ToFu.lua): FuBar_ToFu - Fixed Savedvars per char, Darkie got em all wrong glare`
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`20:57.44`	`BoltR`	`Ehh, i'm getting a wierd green border with sprocket now too`
`21:00.19`	`Saroz`	`it's in my screenshots DrDre`
`21:00.59`	`Industrial`	`whats the new svn url?`
`21:01.06`	`DrDre`	`wowace.com/files`
`21:01.11`	`nevcairiel`	`www.wowace.com/svn/wowace/`
`21:01.12`	`Industrial`	`RONG`
`21:01.13`	`DrDre`	`oh so its just like nurfed sort of?`
`21:01.14`	`Industrial`	`whats the new svn url?`
`21:01.21`	`Industrial`	`k nevcairiel`
`21:01.41`	`DrDre`	`i dont like combat log like that so not for me i guess :p`
`21:02.46`	`BoltR`	`Saroz, your combat log is Simple Combat Log isn't it?`
`21:02.51`	`Saroz`	`ye`
`21:02.55`	`BoltR`	`Not Sidebar :/`
`21:03.28`	`Industrial`	`I never see the use of a combatlog...`
`21:03.39`	`Industrial`	`Maybe in games that dont display damage amounts of the head...`
`21:03.46`	`BoltR`	`It helps for tanks`
`21:03.48`	`BoltR`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:03.52`	`Industrial`	`why`
`21:03.56`	`BoltR`	`Learning a fight`
`21:04.03`	`BoltR`	`Like Patchwerk`
`21:04.13`	`Industrial`	`eh? :S`
`21:04.37`	`DrDre`	`i dont pay attention to the numbers on head and i like to scroll up and see what i was hit for and etc`
`21:04.48`	`DrDre`	`also main use, seeing enemys things`
`21:04.49`	`BoltR`	`You can see how much damage you took, and when`
`21:05.01`	`BoltR`	`when being the more important part`
`21:05.09`	`DrDre`	`i have enemy actions as diff color so if i see "xx gains blessings of wisdom" i know a pallys nearby :P`
`21:08.47`	`DrDre`	`wtf is that PotHead addon?`
`21:08.56`	`DrDre`	`http://wowace.com/files/index.php?path=PotHead/`
`21:09.05`	`Tekkub`	`an old item picking mod that used PT`
`21:09.16`	`Tekkub`	`Consumer kinda took it's place`
`21:09.25`	`DrDre`	`og lol`
`21:09.26`	`DrDre`	`oh`
`21:09.51`	`DrDre`	`thought it was some drug mod ;p`
`21:10.00`	`Tekkub`	`you would`
`21:10.08`	`DrDre`	`but im not a druggy :p`
`21:10.12`	`DrDre`	`never touched anything`
`21:11.20`	`AxiumKT`	`to see what happend to you?`
`21:11.24`	`Gngsk`	`you probably should`
`21:11.32`	`AxiumKT`	`wait nvm i was scrolled up:P`
`21:11.34`	`AxiumKT`	`that's so ooc :P`
`21:12.05`	`Vega____`	`OMFG ACE"d NECROSIS`
`21:12.30`	`Industrial`	`aced isnt a word`
`21:12.41`	`Vega27`	`it is now`
`21:12.44`	`Industrial`	`OMFG NECROSIS IS USING ACE*`
`21:12.56`	`Vega27`	`anythign different`
`21:13.17`	`Industrial`	`yeah`
`21:13.26`	`DrDre`	`What exactly does MrPlow do`
`21:13.35`	`Industrial`	`rearranges items in your bag`
`21:13.36`	`DrDre`	`"Regain that wasted space" doesnt say alot :(`
`21:13.38`	`nevcairiel`	`sort your inventory`
`21:13.39`	`Industrial`	`and stacks them`
`21:13.46`	`DrDre`	`ah ok so lemme try that out`
`21:14.01`	`DrDre`	`it uses Ace1 and Ace2 O.o?`
`21:14.02`	`CIA-11`	`03capnbry * r12132 10PerfectRaid/ (Localisation.lua PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidOptions.lua): PerfectRaid: Add ManaBars option`
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`21:14.18`	`DrDre`	`it has Ace2 embeded but RequiredDependencies: Ace`
`21:14.19`	`Industrial`	`dunno`
`21:14.24`	`Industrial`	`:S`
`21:14.32`	`Industrial`	`ask Wob hmm wobin isnt here`
`21:14.39`	`Entropism`	`Hey folks`
`21:14.41`	`BoltR`	`Let me know if Necronomicon is still better ;/`
`21:14.42`	`Industrial`	`lo`
`21:14.49`	`Entropism`	`SVN still down?`
`21:15.02`	`Entropism`	`beer still flowing? =)`
`21:16.43`	`BoltR`	`It's not down`
`21:16.45`	`Entropism`	`hmmm`
`21:16.45`	`kergoth`	`DrDre: grab the mrplow off teh branch, it seems to be only ace2 now`
`21:16.45`	`nevcairiel`	`a bit slow sometimes`
`21:16.45`	`Entropism`	`I just tried tortoiseSVN and got an error. I'll try in firefox`
`21:16.46`	`Industrial`	`Vega27: To be precise; I discourage 'omfg pls ace dis addon thx!' and encourage 'Ill try and talk to the author and see if he wants to use ace2'`
`21:16.46`	`nevcairiel`	`the svn url changed tho.`
`21:16.46`	`DrDre`	`off matts hosting or wowace? whats branch url for wowace`
`21:16.46`	`Industrial`	`Vega27: but who am i...`
`21:16.47`	`Vega27`	`wow you totaly read me wrong`
`21:16.47`	`DrDre`	`he didnt ask for it to be ace'd insutrial`
`21:16.48`	`Vega27`	`im excited to see an ace necrosis out`
`21:16.48`	`Industrial`	`I know`
`21:16.48`	`DrDre`	`he was excited over there being an ace2 version`
`21:16.48`	`Mikma`	`Vega27: don't mind him he's a nutcase`
`21:16.49`	`Vega27`	`yarly`
`21:16.49`	`Industrial`	`nowai`
`21:16.49`	`DrDre`	`!branch MrPlow`
`21:16.49`	`Vega27`	`i love anyone who can port an good addon and then improve it`
`21:16.50`	`Gngsk`	`odl boots`
`21:17.03`	`DrDre`	`!branches MrPlow`
`21:17.03`	`BoltR`	`As I said, let me know if Necronomicon is still better than the new Necrosis`
`21:17.03`	`SVNBot`	`The latest revision of MrPlow is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/branches/MrPlow/`
`21:17.16`	`Vega27`	`its better the fact that you can BInd CTRL/ALT to Demonic Sac then just hit a pet button to cast a pet instantly`
`21:17.19`	`DrDre`	`ya that zip'salot cleaner :P`
`21:17.28`	`Vega27`	`less time looking at the necrosis ai and more time doing dps ;o`
`21:17.33`	`BoltR`	`You could do that with a macro :/`
`21:17.44`	`Vega27`	`yeh i could but the point is i got dotimer filling my macro space`
`21:17.52`	`Vega27`	`the less macros i got the better :O`
`21:17.58`	`BoltR`	`I mean`
`21:18.00`	`BoltR`	`You make a macro`
`21:18.02`	`BoltR`	`then hide the macro`
`21:18.04`	`Vega27`	`dotimer puts imo/corr + Shadowbolt under one key :O`
`21:18.10`	`BoltR`	`err`
`21:18.13`	`BoltR`	`put it on a button and hide the button`
`21:18.17`	`BoltR`	`and then bind the button to a key`
`21:18.21`	`BoltR`	`and it's the same thing`
`21:18.35`	`Vega27`	`na im a minimalist ;p the less buttons seen/avaible the better =)`
`21:18.48`	`Vega27`	`necrosis puts things away untill needed ;P`
`21:18.49`	`BoltR`	`You don't see it, because it's hidden`
`21:19.00`	`Vega27`	`yeh but then i gotta go hunt for them :P`
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`21:19.10`	`BoltR`	`No, you hit ctrl and it uses it :/`
`21:19.21`	`Vega27`	`i dont want any miss fire demon sacs ;O`
`21:19.33`	`BoltR`	`I see what I said has gone over your head`
`21:19.38`	`Vega27`	`no`
`21:19.42`	`Vega27`	`i see what ur saying`
`21:19.46`	`Vega27`	`and im saying i like my way better`
`21:20.06`	`Industrial`	`nerd-fight!`
`21:20.08`	`BoltR`	`Using a memory expensive mod rather than just binding a key? Even when it does the exact same thing? :/`
`21:20.10`	`Industrial`	`go go go`
`21:20.12`	`Industrial`	`?:D`
`21:20.16`	`Vega27`	`necrosis isnt mem expensive`
`21:20.19`	`Vega27`	`if it was i wouldnt use it`
`21:20.33`	`Vega27`	`and whos to bark about memory when we place a game called wow where you wana have a gig of ram anyway >.>`
`21:20.50`	`nevcairiel`	`we all are here.`
`21:20.51`	`BoltR`	`I had a warlock in my guild tell me that necrosis give him more memory increasing rate than every other mod he has combined`
`21:21.23`	`BoltR`	`And I don't know about you, but garbage collection isn't my cup of tea`
`21:21.54`	`Vega27`	`well well well`
`21:21.54`	`BoltR`	`I'd rather keep it to a minimum`
`21:21.54`	`Vega27`	`i dont have a gc problem :P`
`21:22.10`	`Vega27`	`or my system doesnt gag when it gc's >>>`
`21:22.13`	`Vega27`	`one of those two.`
`21:22.41`	`kergoth`	`BoltR: i've heard that from people as well`
`21:22.41`	`Vega27`	`i like necrosis over shard tracker but i do use necrosis in conjuction with servitude which really is a mem hog in what the duties it performs`
`21:22.57`	`BoltR`	`kergoth, he switched to necronomicon and the problem went away`
`21:23.10`	`Vega27`	`thats what im gonna do`
`21:23.16`	`Vega27`	`dre just showed me necronomicon`
`21:23.21`	`kergoth`	`BoltR: nice`
`21:23.24`	`Vega27`	`which is why i was so excited ;o`
`21:24.03`	`Vega27`	`shardtracker < necrosis < necronomicon`
`21:25.02`	`kergoth`	`i could see wanting to run shardace instead of necronomicon if you dont need all the extra stuff it does`
`21:25.04`	`kergoth`	`but beyond that..`
`21:25.15`	`Vega27`	`i need the extra's =)`
`21:25.31`	`BoltR`	`Or when you were saying 'ace necrosis out' you ment necronomicon?`
`21:25.37`	`DrDre`	`yes`
`21:25.41`	`BoltR`	`Ahh`
`21:25.59`	`Vega27`	`keeps raiding entertaing (added crit sound to necrosis so everytime i got a crit hit it play that sound form the original necrosis )`
`21:26.05`	`Vega27`	`i wounder if it'll work`
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`21:26.32`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`21:27.03`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`21:27.04`	`JoshBorke`	`ckknight: what happens if a client were to DC in the middle of sending a 'large' message? sorry if i missed your response before`
`21:27.05`	`Vega27`	`yo`
`21:27.07`	`DrDre`	`hiya ckk`
`21:27.12`	`JoshBorke`	`ckknight: using AceComm`
`21:27.51`	`ckknight`	`JoshBorke, hrm. basically it'd be stored in memory ad infinitum`
`21:27.51`	`Tekkub`	`ckk, had a question`
`21:28.04`	`ckknight`	`I had planned on checking every 120 seconds or so.`
`21:28.12`	`ckknight`	`should code that...`
`21:28.15`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, hrm?`
`21:28.18`	`JoshBorke`	`ckknight: so it wouldn't be passed onto the addon in an incomplete fashion?`
`21:28.25`	`Tekkub`	`do DB namespace's profiles get changed when the main DB's profile is changed?`
`21:28.42`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`does ace2/fubar have anything that prohibits out of date addons from working/loading?`
`21:28.44`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, not sure. I tink so.`
`21:28.52`	`ckknight`	`JoshBorke, right, it won't be received.`
`21:28.57`	`CIA-11`	`03ven * r12133 10vChat/Core.lua:`
`21:28.57`	`CIA-11`	`vChat:`
`21:28.57`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:28.57`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:28.59`	`JoshBorke`	`ckknight: good enough for me :-D`
`21:28.59`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper`	`cause all my outofdateaddons (ocastingbar, swstats and another) doesn't work/load nor respond to their /commands`
`21:29.08`	`DrDre`	`hmm`
`21:29.11`	`ckknight`	`[Ez]Dustwhisper, did you enable out of date addons?`
`21:29.18`	`Tekkub`	`Dust, patches automatically tick off load outdated`
`21:29.23`	`Tekkub`	`you need to turn it back on`
`21:29.25`	`DrDre`	`howcome FuBar_MailFu moves properly with Squeenix in square motion but the rest of the icons dont?`
`21:29.51`	`Tekkub`	`Dre, FuPlugin sees squeenix and changes it's move path`
`21:29.54`	`Mikma`	`http://slate.kaasu.org/tricia2.jpg`
`21:29.57`	`Mikma`	`getting close :D`
`21:30.10`	`DrDre`	`how c ome rest of the ones ive attached to minimap doesnt do it then :(`
`21:30.11`	`ckknight`	`DrDre, rest of the icons?`
`21:30.12`	`Tekkub`	`all your FuPlugin-2 minimap buttons sohuld do that`
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`21:30.36`	`Vega27`	`dre showed me the world without titanbar >.> im now a lover of the fu >.>`
`21:30.39`	`DrDre`	`i have mailfu, damagemetersfu, ninjitsufu and metahuds fubar icon on my map`
`21:30.43`	`Vega27`	`now i just have to convert to perfect raid`
`21:30.52`	`DrDre`	`dmgmeters nijitsu and metahud goes in circle`
`21:31.03`	`DrDre`	`Vega: get ag_unitframes`
`21:31.03`	`Tekkub`	`they 1.2 plugins?`
`21:31.10`	`DrDre`	`err mightb e i dunno lemme check`
`21:31.20`	`Tekkub`	`prolly are`
`21:32.08`	`ckknight`	`1.2 plugins don't recognize the square minimap`
`21:32.16`	`ckknight`	`just hold alt and move em.`
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`21:33.37`	`DrDre`	`looking at detachedminimapbutons code, seems easy enough to addmore to list`
`21:33.48`	`DrDre`	`do the 1.2 buttons follow same format for each like this?`
`21:33.49`	`DrDre`	`["CT_OptionBarFrame"] = "CT_OptionButton",`
`21:33.53`	`Industrial`	`ckknight: When are you going to update Quests to fubar2 ?`
`21:34.08`	`ckknight`	`seeing as I didn't write QuestFu, never.`
`21:34.14`	`calis`	`wow sucks`
`21:34.16`	`Industrial`	`:s`
`21:34.16`	`ckknight`	`probably should talk to Kemayo`
`21:34.27`	`ckknight`	`calis, hrm?`
`21:34.33`	`Industrial`	`whos kemayo..`
`21:34.34`	`calis`	`!`
`21:34.36`	`Xuerian`	`Industrial: It already is... >_>`
`21:35.01`	`Industrial`	`wouldnt work without fubar`
`21:35.18`	`Xuerian`	`It's 2.0, either way`
`21:35.22`	`Industrial`	`hrm`
`21:35.30`	`Industrial`	`its the only fubar plugin i use`
`21:35.31`	`Industrial`	`:(`
`21:35.32`	`Xuerian`	`At least the one I have`
`21:35.33`	`DrDre`	`ckknight: what would be the format frame names for 1.2buttons ?`
`21:35.41`	`ckknight`	`I dunno`
`21:35.45`	`Industrial`	`well, used...`
`21:35.54`	`ckknight`	`just hover and do /print GetMouseFocus():GetName()`
`21:36.06`	`DrDre`	`oh i see name of it, long as hell ><`
`21:36.06`	`ckknight`	`Industrial, just upgrade.`
`21:36.22`	`ckknight`	`if it doesn't work without FuBar, then you should probably tell the author`
`21:42.16`	`FroMaster`	`Anyone know why FuBar_EmoteFu isn't in the www.wowace.com SVN trunk?`
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`21:44.27`	`CIA-11`	`03thiana * r12134 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (Cooldowns.lua Core.lua): FuBar_tcgTradeskills: More changes to try and isolate wow crash, plus caching of item links in cooldowns.lua`
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`21:45.19`	`Saroz`	`Anyone had problems with maexxna?`
`21:45.22`	`Saroz`	`timers being off`
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`21:45.29`	`nevcairiel`	`worked fine last week`
`21:45.34`	`Saroz`	`with the 3 bars?`
`21:45.40`	`nevcairiel`	`wait .. the new bars were added after that`
`21:45.42`	`sergio`	`Saroz: Last week just the first 1 was off by 2 seconds`
`21:45.44`	`nevcairiel`	`hm no idea then :)`
`21:45.46`	`sergio`	`for some reason`
`21:45.48`	`sergio`	`or 3`
`21:45.50`	`Saroz`	`yea`
`21:45.51`	`sergio`	`then it was synced`
`21:45.54`	`Saroz`	`hrrm`
`21:46.13`	`sergio`	`the little spiders were off at the start i remember for sure`
`21:46.36`	`sergio`	`I'll pay attention more this week I Guess`
`21:46.41`	`sergio`	`it wasn't a big deal`
`21:46.42`	`Saroz`	`web spray is off`
`21:46.54`	`sergio`	`for some reason it synced up after the first 1`
`21:46.56`	`sergio`	`for us`
`21:47.00`	`nevcairiel`	`webspray off sucks. oO`
`21:47.16`	`BoltR`	`I think last week they were find for me`
`21:47.21`	`BoltR`	`Last... sunday?`
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`21:47.46`	`nevcairiel`	`we planned todo maexxna today, but due to evil lag we canceld`
`21:47.49`	`nevcairiel`	`so tomorrow`
`21:47.51`	`maia`	`I know I'm not the first person to ask, but as I'm not online 24/7 I'll have to ask: is the SVN down currently, is there a change we need to make in our clients or is there anything else that could explain the following error when trying to access http://svn.wowace.com/root with a SVN client? svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/root/trunk/Detox'`
`21:47.51`	`maia`	`svn: PROPFIND of '/root/trunk/Detox': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://svn.wowace.com)`
`21:47.54`	`nevcairiel`	`will see about the timers..`
`21:48.08`	`nevcairiel`	`maia: svn was moved`
`21:48.18`	`nevcairiel`	`its now at http://www.wowace.com/svn/wowace`
`21:48.36`	`maia`	`eww, I see. thanks.`
`21:48.55`	`nevcairiel`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN`
`21:49.00`	`nevcairiel`	`should explain everything`
`21:49.05`	`maia`	`this change will force to redownload everything.`
`21:49.18`	`nevcairiel`	`you could use svn switch`
`21:49.26`	`maia`	`nevcairiel: the wiki and forums are so terribly slow for me I can't really use them. each click results in one minute wait.`
`21:49.40`	`nevcairiel`	`(svn is on the same apache) :)`
`21:50.20`	`nevcairiel`	`well its getting better.`
`21:50.26`	`nevcairiel`	`clad is doing lots of improvements`
`21:50.49`	`maia`	`hopefully ;)`
`21:51.01`	`BoltR`	`I think you need to use svn relocate`
`21:51.05`	`maia`	`svn client is still loading the revision log.`
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`21:52.44`	`cladhaire`	`maia: Don't forget its patch week`
`21:52.50`	`cladhaire`	`you bastards need to get off my server =)`
`21:52.59`	`JoshBorke`	`cladhaire: lol`
`21:53.24`	`maia`	`cladhaire: yeah, patch week. :(`
`21:54.00`	`maia`	`cladhaire: week has to be over soon, as I hope to be able to upload new revisions to possibly fix some bugs soon. :)`
`21:54.02`	`cladhaire`	`maia: Kael just brought that to my attention`
`21:54.02`	`cladhaire`	`heh`
`21:54.17`	`cladhaire`	`maia: The server is fine.. you just need to make sure you have the right URLs and externals.`
`21:54.20`	`cladhaire`	`is not even that slow at the moment.`
`21:54.23`	`Azurewrath`	`cladhaire: at least it got _much_ better compared to about ~10h ago :)`
`21:54.35`	`cladhaire`	`Azurewrath: I'm working on it.`
`21:54.44`	`Azurewrath`	`jup, i know`
`21:54.46`	`nevcairiel`	`did you manage to get the apache setup up yet, or is that what you are working on ? :)`
`21:54.53`	`cladhaire`	`ANyone who has experience running PHP5 as a FastCGI handler on Apache2.. that's what I need right now.`
`21:54.57`	`nevcairiel`	`s/apache/new apache/`
`21:55.10`	`maia`	`cladhaire: pointing my svn client to the new root url http://www.wowace.com/svn/wowace resulted in a 6 or 7 min loading time for the revision log. this took about 10-15sec on the old server, even on days with heavy load.`
`21:55.26`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: fyi, i doubt you care about it, but your AutoAttack in svn is bugged. i sap a mob and it engages autoattack, breaking the sap`
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`21:55.43`	`cladhaire`	`maia: Dont know why that would be the case... I can reboot the server =)`
`21:55.55`	`maia`	`thats not a real solution :)`
`21:56.15`	`cladhaire`	`no its not.`
`21:56.22`	`cladhaire`	`you don't think i'm tryign to find out?`
`21:56.22`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`21:56.26`	`maia`	`cladhaire: does the server have a high load?`
`21:56.26`	`cladhaire`	`s/out/one/ =)`
`21:56.30`	`cladhaire`	`maia: You have no idea.`
`21:56.37`	`DrDre`	`what frame is the fubar buttons (1.2 any diff?) bound to ckk?`
`21:56.58`	`DrDre`	`since the plugins dont even have .xml files im guessing its handled in fubar?`
`21:57.02`	`maia`	`cladhaire: so the load average is > 1?`
`21:57.40`	`cladhaire`	`maia: we're paging like whoa, the cpu is through the roof`
`21:57.44`	`cladhaire`	`everyone needs to just GO AWAY =)`
`21:58.06`	`nevcairiel`	`cladhaire: that was on freebsd, right?`
`21:58.26`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: Ideally, yes.`
`21:58.35`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: but i'm testing a general config on an offline linux server`
`21:58.38`	`maia`	`we're paging and the cpu is overloaded? hmm, more RAM will definetly help, and probably also reduce the cpu load, but should I worry that our new server is already overloaded after a week? (no, I'm not sarcastic, I know you all do the best you can)`
`21:58.39`	`cladhaire`	`since the CPU is borked on the main server`
`21:59.06`	`JoshBorke`	`maia: they just went on the server yesterday. it only has 1GB of ram. they are looking into getting more ram`
`21:59.32`	`maia`	`eww, 1GB isnt enough :`
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`22:00.03`	`nevcairiel`	`everybody notices once he opens the page`
`22:00.10`	`maia`	`is it apache eating the cpu, or a different task?`
`22:00.20`	`JoshBorke`	`apache and everything gets piped through apache`
`22:01.02`	`JoshBorke`	`(now we are into the realm of me guessing ;-))`
`22:01.09`	`maia`	`I assume the forum software and trac are php?`
`22:01.25`	`nevcairiel`	`clad is looking into replacing mpm-prefork with worker and getting the php in fastcgi`
`22:01.32`	`maia`	`ah`
`22:01.32`	`nevcairiel`	`yes it is`
`22:02.08`	`maia`	`nevcairiel: if I'd quote "clad is looking into replacing mpm-prefork with worker and getting the php in fastcgi" to any of my friends, they would never ever talk to me, assuming I'm crazy.`
`22:02.24`	`nevcairiel`	`heh.`
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`22:03.12`	`Tekkub`	`thought.... why not move the forums back to the old server`
`22:03.31`	`Tekkub`	`they don't need to be on the new server really`
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`22:03.50`	`Tekkub`	`we wanted the wiki on the new server so we could put in the latest version`
`22:04.03`	`Tekkub`	`pokes clad with the idea rod`
`22:04.13`	`Tekkub`	`puts the idea rod back in his pants`
`22:04.27`	`Azurewrath`	`now thats what you call the idea rod? ;)`
`22:04.43`	`nevcairiel`	`haha`
`22:04.52`	`Industrial`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3129#comments`
`22:04.58`	`Industrial`	`devla here?`
`22:05.00`	`Industrial`	`hrm`
`22:05.27`	`Industrial`	`this guy copied idMinimap code and didnt change anything but variable names`
`22:05.38`	`Tekkub`	`indie...`
`22:05.39`	`Tekkub`	`"This mode is merge of two other mods - idMiniMap by Industrial and MapCoords by ReCover."`
`22:05.50`	`Industrial`	`wups`
`22:05.50`	`nevcairiel`	`hihi`
`22:05.53`	`Industrial`	`comment deleted`
`22:05.55`	`Tekkub`	`you lose!`
`22:05.57`	`Industrial`	`:(`
`22:06.00`	`nevcairiel`	`wtfpwnd`
`22:06.12`	`Industrial`	`I also win cause no shit will happen now :P`
`22:06.16`	`Industrial`	`:)`
`22:06.19`	`eternally777`	`So.. could anybody shed some light on why the textures in the character screen don't match the textures in the bar textures in the frame in the lower right corner of this screen: http://www.wishiwascool.com/images/uhohoskin.jpg? They're the exact same file.`
`22:06.35`	`eternally777`	`Sorry for the book.`
`22:07.00`	`nevcairiel`	`now proof that they are the same.`
`22:07.29`	`maia`	`has anyone seen ckk lately?`
`22:07.52`	`Xuerian`	`~seen ckknight`
`22:08.10`	`purl`	`ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (41m 38s) #wowace (41m 38s). Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 31m 49s, last said: 'if it doesn't work without FuBar, then you should probably tell the author'.`
`22:08.10`	`Xuerian`	`Purl: about half a hour ago. I'm a nubins.`
`22:08.37`	`deci`	`hmm, am i installing this wrong, ive got a bt2 folder and a bt2_circled folder in my addons, when i login, game goes nuts though`
`22:08.47`	`deci`	`fubar along with bt2 go crazy`
`22:09.03`	`DrDre`	`doesnt for me, but i dont use circled`
`22:09.12`	`DrDre`	`I have 164 addons o.o`
`22:09.33`	`Vega27`	`and you bitch about yoru fps being low >.>`
`22:09.56`	`\|Pixel\|`	`DrDre: wow, congrats :)`
`22:10.24`	`eternally777`	`nevcairiel, if that was a request for the code: http://ace.pastey.net/1167`
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`22:12.14`	`Industrial`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3029`
`22:12.17`	`Industrial`	`sexy`
`22:12.27`	`Industrial`	`I hate cionfigging things with a color picker :P`
`22:12.32`	`kergoth`	`damnit`
`22:12.37`	`kergoth`	`why is hostelbar sometimes not reliable?`
`22:12.39`	`Industrial`	`my mind thinks hex colors :S`
`22:12.48`	`kergoth`	`i'm standing right in front of the mob beating on him, i hit kidney shot, and no bar for it`
`22:12.55`	`kergoth`	`yet the cheap shot just a second before showed fine`
`22:12.59`	`Kebinusan`	`because its not using parserlib yet`
`22:13.01`	`*** join/#wowace Insa (n=insa@107.17-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be)`
`22:13.09`	`Kebinusan`	`its using spellstatuslib or something weird that seems to miss alot of events`
`22:13.30`	`kergoth`	`aha`
`22:13.31`	`DrDre`	`here i am trying to edit DBMS code to add fubar buttons support, and now i find /dbms scan lol`
`22:13.39`	`DrDre`	`which found them for me and made em moveable >_>`
`22:13.56`	`nevcairiel`	`eternally777: your frame is directly created, the char frames are created in some XML file, are you sure there is nothing funny going on with them in the xmls you dont know about ?`
`22:14.00`	`maia`	`ckknight: ping`
`22:14.01`	`*** join/#wowace laod (n=laod@129.244.24.131)`
`22:14.06`	`Industrial`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3148`
`22:14.07`	`Industrial`	`spacey :D`
`22:14.12`	`Industrial`	`but the buffs will never work`
`22:15.16`	`Kebinusan`	`dont click it its a keylogger`
`22:15.22`	`kergoth`	`Kebinusan: ahh, thanks, that explains a lot`
`22:15.39`	`Kebinusan`	`heheh, I love saying that`
`22:15.47`	`nevcairiel`	`haha`
`22:15.52`	`deci`	`yea its only with the circled layout, it even makes my agufs dissappear lol`
`22:15.55`	`JoshBorke`	`bye all`
`22:15.55`	`*** part/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@ohm.stl.gtri.gatech.edu)`
`22:17.39`	`Industrial`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3166`
`22:17.40`	`Industrial`	`wiah!`
`22:17.54`	`Industrial`	`s/i/o/`
`22:18.12`	`kergoth`	`okay fightback works a lot more reliable than autoattack, no engaging when i sap, and doesnt seem to intefere with my hunter's shooting`
`22:18.21`	`CIA-11`	`03maia * r12135 10Detox/Detox.lua: Detox: attempt to fix login error for ppl without FuBar2`
`22:18.23`	`Industrial`	`shopping for addons is fun - especially when you bump into alot of 'fresh' ideas`
`22:19.30`	`nevcairiel`	`mhm that aura thing looks fun`
`22:20.48`	`*** join/#wowace snurre (n=snurre@AVelizy-153-1-65-222.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`22:23.42`	`cladhaire`	`** WARNING ** SERVER WILL BE GOING DOWN IN ABOUT 15 minutes.. i.e. when i get my skank ass back from dinner. Suck up and deal =)`
`22:23.49`	`deci`	`can you make your ui scale smaller than the .64 given ingame?`
`22:24.06`	`deci`	`enjoy your dinner clad`
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`22:30.12`	`maia`	`someone set us up the bomb.`
`22:30.35`	`nevcairiel`	`oh noes`
`22:31.00`	`Gngsk`	`deci, UIParent:SetScale(X)`
`22:32.45`	`*** join/#wowace kovi (i=x@p5081FCCD.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`22:33.37`	`cladhaire`	`so how pissed will people be if the url for the svn changes entirely`
`22:33.54`	`nevcairiel`	`you didnt just say that.`
`22:34.20`	`cladhaire`	`i'm serious`
`22:34.21`	`Uruloke`	`depends... shorter? sure... longer? err...`
`22:34.27`	`deci`	`yea`
`22:34.33`	`nevcairiel`	`i dont care if longer or shorter`
`22:34.36`	`cladhaire`	`it'd probably be svn://svn.wowace.com/wowace`
`22:34.41`	`deci`	`www.wowace.com/files/svn/addonsgohere/omgimeanit`
`22:34.43`	`nevcairiel`	`but i am not going through everything again :P`
`22:34.56`	`maia`	`no more http!`
`22:34.57`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`doesn't matter to me`
`22:35.00`	`deci`	`thats not too bad lol`
`22:35.07`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`it's just a sed script`
`22:35.07`	`Uruloke`	`how 'bout only svn://svn.wowace.com/ ? ;)`
`22:35.17`	`nevcairiel`	`svnserve will be fine, if it gets the load off the svn`
`22:35.21`	`maia`	`later, everyone.`
`22:35.25`	`nevcairiel`	`and of the apache`
`22:35.28`	`cladhaire`	`you woudn't be able to browse it on the web`
`22:35.35`	`cladhaire`	`you'd have to go through TRAC`
`22:35.39`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that poweraura thing is nice`
`22:35.54`	`cladhaire`	`ok.. server going down`
`22:36.01`	`hyperChipmunk`	`only runs at 400KiB too`
`22:36.18`	`nevcairiel`	`does anyone know a gui based svn client like WinCVS ?`
`22:36.34`	`Uruloke`	`TortoiseSVN isn't enough?`
`22:36.38`	`hyperChipmunk`	`for what platform?`
`22:36.42`	`cladhaire`	`cmdline ftw`
`22:37.01`	`nevcairiel`	`for win`
`22:37.22`	`nevcairiel`	`i kinda dislike tortoise`
`22:37.41`	`ven`	`cmdline owns`
`22:37.48`	`nevcairiel`	`i only use tortoise for propedit`
`22:37.48`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`22:37.56`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`is there a mod that helps sorting the enchants?`
`22:38.32`	`nevcairiel`	`well anyway, if it helps, go for it clad, we will adapt`
`22:38.51`	`AxiumKT`	`commandline sir`
`22:38.55`	`AxiumKT`	`don't gui it`
`22:39.15`	`nevcairiel`	`i should play on *nix`
`22:40.02`	`nevcairiel`	`is there a teamspeak client for linux?`
`22:40.10`	`Uruloke`	`yup`
`22:40.16`	`DrDre`	`people still use teamspeak?`
`22:40.23`	`Uruloke`	`"still use"?`
`22:40.27`	`DrDre`	`ventrilo ftw!`
`22:40.28`	`*** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)`
`22:40.28`	`nevcairiel`	`my guild is too stupid to change to ventrilo`
`22:40.31`	`nevcairiel`	`i told them ..:/`
`22:40.36`	`Uruloke`	`argh, ventrilo x.x`
`22:40.40`	`Tekkub`	`I refuse to use either`
`22:40.48`	`DrDre`	`lol what do you use`
`22:40.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`ventrilo blows`
`22:40.53`	`Tekkub`	`I like my guild mates, I have some sort of respect for them...`
`22:40.57`	`Uruloke`	`I stopped using ventrilo ages ago`
`22:41.07`	`DrDre`	`ventrilo owns >_> so much clearer than teamcrap`
`22:41.10`	`Tekkub`	`when I hear them yammering on like nerds, that respect goes buhbye`
`22:41.14`	`DrDre`	`lol`
`22:41.15`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it's been 'coming soon' for linux for 3 years`
`22:41.26`	`kergoth`	`powerauras is neat indeed`
`22:41.27`	`Tekkub`	`voice chat is NOT a necessity, just as CTRA isn't`
`22:41.29`	`nevcairiel`	`so if i wanted to start playing on linux, what distro would you recommend?`
`22:41.31`	`hyperChipmunk`	`much clearer who cares`
`22:41.47`	`Uruloke`	`Gentoo ftw!`
`22:41.49`	`hyperChipmunk`	`if it don't run on your platform, it's useless`
`22:41.57`	`nevcairiel`	`ive been using gentoo on my dev box for soem time now`
`22:41.58`	`Tekkub`	`much clearer == they're still fucking nerds`
`22:42.21`	`nevcairiel`	`its a hell to setup and configure, but once you are done its great :D`
`22:42.29`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I use it to talk to my girlfriend; she lives a thousand miles from my house`
`22:42.34`	`DrDre`	`erm`
`22:42.39`	`Tekkub`	`I'm sad aren't I? I'm a homo-nerd that despises such obviously homoly and nerdly people`
`22:42.46`	`DrDre`	`why did i see DamageMeters 5.1.1 in my drop down boxes on poison making window`
`22:42.55`	`hyperChipmunk`	`telephone isn't much of an option`
`22:43.02`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`22:43.10`	`Tekkub`	`hC... Gtalk!`
`22:43.20`	`ckknight`	`hey all, back`
`22:43.22`	`cladhaire`	`Is the SVN down?`
`22:43.31`	`Tekkub`	`ask clad`
`22:43.36`	`hyperChipmunk`	`there isn't a gtalk client for linux either`
`22:43.37`	`Tekkub`	`he keeps taking the server down`
`22:43.40`	`*** topic/#wowace by cladhaire -> http://www.wowace.com \| http://ace.pastey.net \| http://www.lua.org/pil \| http://www.wowace.com/flyspray \| A banana is yellow`
`22:43.43`	`ckknight`	`had a meeting with my writing teacher, we mostly talked about the Daily Show :-P`
`22:43.48`	`cladhaire`	`hyperChipmunk: Yes there is.. every single Jabber client`
`22:43.50`	`*** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com \| http://ace.pastey.net \| http://www.lua.org/pil \| http://www.wowace.com/flyspray \| Your mom is yellow`
`22:43.55`	`cladhaire`	`OOOH BURN!`
`22:43.58`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`22:44.07`	`hyperChipmunk`	`cladhaire: voice support?`
`22:44.08`	`*** topic/#wowace by Tekkub -> THhttp://www.wowace.com \| http://ace.pastey.net \| http://www.lua.org/pil \| http://www.wowace.com/flyspray \| Bananas at Tek's work aren't yellow`
`22:44.22`	`*** topic/#wowace by Tekkub -> THhttp://www.wowace.com \| http://ace.pastey.net \| http://www.lua.org/pil \| http://www.wowace.com/flyspray \| Bananas at Tek's work are yellow... usually`
`22:44.41`	`cladhaire`	`hyperChipmunk: nope =(`
`22:45.00`	`hyperChipmunk`	`most jabber clients don't support gtalk's file transfer and voice`
`22:45.18`	`cladhaire`	`i know, i didn't know thats what you wanted =/`
`22:45.29`	`hyperChipmunk`	`pay attention =p`
`22:45.39`	`[POW]Arjor`	`anyone knows if there's an ace replacment for gatherer?`
`22:45.49`	`Tekkub`	`ammo's toying with one`
`22:45.52`	`*** join/#wowace Greywind (n=chatzill@74.131.102.100)`
`22:45.55`	`Tekkub`	`PinPoint or somethnig like that`
`22:45.58`	`Uruloke`	`so cladhaire... is it more probable that you will change svn url than not? if it is I wont bother with relocating all my addons yet ;)`
`22:46.09`	`cladhaire`	`Uruloke: I'm honestly not sure`
`22:46.10`	`[POW]Arjor`	`kk`
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`22:46.25`	`cladhaire`	`first preference is to use Apache2 mod_proxy down to lighthttpd, with apache still serving svn traffic`
`22:46.49`	`JoshBorke`	`cladhaire: running into problems with that?`
`22:46.55`	`cladhaire`	`starting it now`
`22:46.59`	`cladhaire`	`have some cleanup to do first`
`22:47.02`	`JoshBorke`	`good luck :-)`
`22:47.08`	`JoshBorke`	`where's our zip script? ;-)`
`22:47.13`	`Tekkub`	`hey clad`
`22:47.20`	`Tekkub`	`dunno if you saw earlier`
`22:47.34`	`Tekkub`	`we might wanna move the forums back to WoWI hosting :)`
`22:47.50`	`kergoth`	`hmm`
`22:48.09`	`kergoth`	`now to figure out how to set up powerauras, see if its worth using or is just a novelty`
`22:48.14`	`Tekkub`	`the two things we wanted the server for was SVN and running the latest MediaWiki`
`22:48.16`	`cladhaire`	`we dont need this box for just the svn.. i can promise you that`
`22:48.47`	`cladhaire`	`Tekkub: it wouldn't resolve anything.`
`22:48.47`	`cladhaire`	`its an architecture issue atm`
`22:48.47`	`JoshBorke`	`o.O`
`22:48.47`	`Tekkub`	`shrug just putting the idea out`
`22:48.47`	`cladhaire`	`nod`
`22:49.26`	`nevcairiel`	`does anyone know how i purge the vista bootloader from my disk?`
`22:49.28`	`hyperChipmunk`	`kergoth: the setup is nice`
`22:49.28`	`kergoth`	`i bet powerauras woudl be useful for buffs gained by weapon procs and such`
`22:49.35`	`kergoth`	`have a little thing pop up flickering while it lasts or something`
`22:49.48`	`hyperChipmunk`	`actually I'm looking to use it most on a boss by boss basis`
`22:49.57`	`kergoth`	`how so?`
`22:50.19`	`kergoth`	`i'm thinking i might show something indicating i'm affected by a poison or disease, on my rogue, since those are a real annoyance when solo farming`
`22:50.20`	`Tekkub`	`o/~ never wanna see yuragain, I feer I can still width in this tiny room o/~ silly japaneese trying to be engrish :)`
`22:50.20`	`hyperChipmunk`	`to know when you've got boss spells on you`
`22:50.30`	`kergoth`	`ah, thats a good idea`
`22:50.33`	`ckknight`	`To overcome temptation, you must give in to it.`
`22:50.43`	`kergoth`	`show you're being watched by bloodlord or you're the bomb or whatever, eh?`
`22:51.15`	`hyperChipmunk`	`you can give multiple buffs to an effect if you separate them with a /`
`22:51.22`	`Greywind`	`I love being the bomb, makes me feel special :P`
`22:51.50`	`Tekkub`	`I love being the bomb because.... /follow Misstaken`
`22:51.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`so I figure I'll end up with like 3 boss debuff effects with like 30 each`
`22:51.56`	`Greywind`	`goes back to corner`
`22:52.10`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`anyone got a link for otravi castingbar... cant find it on curse/wowinterface and wowace.com/files ... shows me empty page after i click on otravi`
`22:52.44`	`Thrae\|Work`	`!url otravi_Castingbar`
`22:52.44`	`SVNBot`	`Main: http://svn.wowace.com/files/otravi_Castingbar/ \|\| Alt: http://www.matts-hosting.com/addon/root/trunk/otravi_Castingbar/ \|\| Info: http://www.wowace.com/index.php/TOC_Data/otravi_Castingbar`
`22:52.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`O`
`22:52.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`O_o`
`22:53.19`	`hyperChipmunk`	`well isn't that just snazzy now`
`22:53.31`	`Tekkub`	`too bad the links are useless :)`
`22:53.34`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`lol`
`22:53.37`	`hyperChipmunk`	`=D`
`22:53.45`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	bah XD anyone got it on his own HDD?`XD
`22:53.46`	`hyperChipmunk`	`technicality`
`22:53.49`	`Tekkub`	`thrae...`
`22:53.50`	`DrDre`	`sec ill zip it up for you`
`22:53.55`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`kk thx ^^`
`22:53.55`	`Tekkub`	`make that three lines`
`22:54.03`	`Tekkub`	`instead of blah \|\| blah \|\| blah`
`22:54.35`	`DrDre`	`http://fanetworks.net/addons/otravi_CastingBar.rar`
`22:54.49`	`Thrae\|Work`	`I know it's on my site`
`22:54.51`	`eternally777`	`What layer would a StatusBar belong in? Is it art or an object?`
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`22:55.02`	`Tekkub`	`thrae, you try that alt link?`
`22:55.05`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`big thx drdre :) going ot test`
`22:55.06`	`Tekkub`	`it didn't work :)`
`22:55.17`	`*** join/#wowace Jarenthal (n=Bob@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)`
`22:55.27`	`Thrae`	`Oh, typo`
`22:55.27`	`DrDre`	`!trunk otravi_CastingBar`
`22:55.32`	`Tekkub`	`kek`
`22:55.42`	`DrDre`	`oh lol`
`22:56.29`	`*** join/#wowace frus (i=frus@082-146-097-107.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be)`
`22:56.38`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`ah dredre XD command to shoup options?`
`22:56.51`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`ah found i guess`
`22:57.23`	`Thrae`	`!url otravi_Castingbar`
`22:57.23`	`SVNBot`	`Main: http://svn.wowace.com/files/otravi_Castingbar/`
`22:57.23`	`SVNBot`	`Alt: http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/otravi_Castingbar/`
`22:57.23`	`SVNBot`	`Info: http://www.wowace.com/index.php/TOC_Data/otravi_Castingbar`
`22:57.50`	`Tekkub`	`nope!`
`22:57.54`	`DrDre`	`you still are typoing :P except on the command`
`22:57.57`	`DrDre`	`capital B`
`22:58.04`	`DrDre`	`CastingBar`
`22:58.07`	`Tekkub`	`and thrae, ww.wowace.com/files`
`22:58.08`	`Thrae`	`ohhh`
`22:58.10`	`Tekkub`	`www...`
`22:59.10`	`DrDre`	`yeah new url is http://wowace.com/files/Addon/Addon.zip which is link to the latest commit in the folder :P`
`22:59.40`	`Thrae`	`Except Addon/Addon.zip doesn't always work`
`23:00.04`	`DrDre`	`it should its osmething he setup to do`
`23:00.16`	`Thrae`	`No, he's having trouble with it.`
`23:00.22`	`kergoth`	`hyperChipmunk: people should share their powerauras setups in some fashion, woudl be useful`
`23:00.26`	`DrDre`	`was working for me before he shutdown server ;x`
`23:01.00`	`ckknight`	`hide, it's Kaelten, before he notices us!`
`23:01.09`	`Tekkub`	`kael, fix clad he broke the server`
`23:01.21`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`23:01.25`	`Tekkub`	`jesus is coming... look busy`
`23:02.03`	`hyperChipmunk`	`who's responsible for HostelBars`
`23:02.11`	`gnorlish`	`sole`
`23:02.19`	`hyperChipmunk`	`who's that? =p`
`23:02.45`	`*** join/#wowace Greywind (n=chatzill@74.131.102.100)`
`23:02.53`	`gnorlish`	`the person who's responsible for HostelBars`
`23:03.26`	`Kaelten`	`we're trying different approaches to see what we can do to make the server faster`
`23:03.41`	`Kaelten`	`I'm trying to talk the datacenter into not charging us 40 a month for an extra gig of ram`
`23:03.44`	`Kaelten`	`thats just crazy`
`23:03.54`	`Tekkub`	`o.O`
`23:03.56`	`Tekkub`	`yea`
`23:04.03`	`nevcairiel`	`that is crazy.`
`23:04.12`	`Tekkub`	`considering you gan probably get a gig for that much now a days`
`23:04.15`	`Tekkub`	`one-time cost`
`23:04.42`	`*** part/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)`
`23:04.47`	`Thrae`	`!url foo`
`23:04.53`	`Thrae`	`!url otravi_Castingbar`
`23:04.55`	`Kaelten`	`heh`
`23:04.56`	`hyperChipmunk`	`lol monthly?`
`23:04.57`	`Thrae`	`!url otravi_CastingBar`
`23:04.57`	`SVNBot`	`Main: http://www.wowace.com/files/otravi_CastingBar/`
`23:04.57`	`SVNBot`	`Alt: http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/otravi_CastingBar/`
`23:04.57`	`SVNBot`	`Info: http://www.wowace.com/index.php/TOC_Data/otravi_CastingBar`
`23:05.01`	`Thrae`	`There we go`
`23:05.11`	`Thrae`	`Now it'll check to make sure the path exists ;)`
`23:05.16`	`Kaelten`	`I was expecting to have to pay 100-200 for it.. but one time not every month`
`23:05.58`	`nevcairiel`	`offer them adspace, heh`
`23:06.01`	`hyperChipmunk`	`monthly cost for components is lame; buy one and send it to them and tell 'em you'll give them 20 bucks to put it in`
`23:06.05`	`*** join/#wowace frus (i=frus@082-146-097-107.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be)`
`23:06.12`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`23:06.17`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`23:06.29`	`hyperChipmunk`	`get the guy from the nightshift`
`23:06.33`	`Tekkub`	`use an offsite RAM service :)`
`23:06.42`	`Azurewrath`	`Kaelten: i have 1gig of Corsair PC3200 DDR ram lying around if you can use it.. i just fear i would pay more for shipping to the US than for the gig ram ;)`
`23:06.55`	`Kaelten`	`hehe`
`23:07.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`feel free to ship it to me`
`23:07.12`	`Azurewrath`	`hehe`
`23:07.20`	`Thrae`	`Kaelten: I'm still offering my site as a sister site if you want to do round-robin`
`23:07.38`	`Thrae`	`1GB RAM Dual P3 500MHz`
`23:08.08`	`Health`	`fantastic machine!`
`23:08.11`	`Kaelten`	`Dual Xeon 2.8GHz 800FSB EM64T`
`23:08.11`	`Kaelten`	`1GB PC3200 ECC DDR RAM`
`23:08.11`	`Kaelten`	`Dual 200GB SATA Drives`
`23:08.14`	`Kaelten`	`thats what we need`
`23:08.15`	`Tekkub`	`I'll throw my 800MHz wini-ITX in and we can have a proper cluster`
`23:08.15`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`23:08.31`	`Kaelten`	`or this rather:`
`23:08.31`	`Kaelten`	`Dual Opteron 246 Processor`
`23:08.31`	`Kaelten`	`2 Gigabyte PC3200 ECC DDR RAM`
`23:08.31`	`Kaelten`	`Dual 200GB SATA Drives`
`23:08.46`	`Health`	`I have my raptor disk incoming!`
`23:08.48`	`Health`	`10k rpm`
`23:08.48`	`Tekkub`	`512 PC133, 6 GB IDE HDD`
`23:08.54`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`23:08.59`	`Thrae`	`Health, that's my web server, not my gaming machine ;)`
`23:09.09`	`FFOS\|Darclite`	`i hope QuadCores will make huge improvement for servers`
`23:09.18`	`Thrae`	`A Raptor is overkill unless you're something like Penny Arcade's server`
`23:09.24`	`eternally777`	`Can anyone recommend an XML editor?`
`23:09.44`	`nevcairiel`	`does anyone here play WoW on Linux?`
`23:09.44`	`Thrae`	`Kaelten: Are you leasing the entire server?`
`23:09.46`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I'll donate my parents' box; they only use it for webbrowsing`
`23:09.48`	`eternally777`	`s/an/a/`
`23:09.53`	`Kaelten`	`Thrae: yes`
`23:09.58`	`hyperChipmunk`	`eternally777: gvim`
`23:09.59`	`eternally777`	`-.-`
`23:10.10`	`Azurewrath`	`Health: i'm running a WD740GD Raptor in this System.. it owns`
`23:10.19`	`Azurewrath`	`i recommend it to everyone :)`
`23:10.35`	`Thrae`	`Yeah I have a 30GB Raptor HDD I got a while back for $100`
`23:10.38`	`Health`	`Going to use it as a systemdisk`
`23:10.40`	`Uruloke`	`got a 150 gig Raptor disk on my comp :)`
`23:10.48`	`Uruloke`	`it's my system disk`
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`23:11.01`	`Azurewrath`	`system and gaming disk for me`
`23:11.11`	`Health`	`Building a new system.. the part arriave all day :P`
`23:11.15`	`Thrae`	`150GB is way overkill to put Windows on, even with WoW and other games`
`23:11.33`	`Neebler`	`no way! think of the porn collections`
`23:11.33`	`Uruloke`	`it's for apps too`
`23:11.46`	`Uruloke`	`hehe I got 2x 250 gigs i Raid0 for my data`
`23:11.47`	`Health`	`Only 2GB`
`23:11.50`	`Health`	`PC2-5400 667Mhz`
`23:11.53`	`Health`	`wautubg biw`
`23:12.04`	`Uruloke`	`and an additional 2x 200 gig`
`23:12.20`	`Uruloke`	`All in all 5 Western Digital drives`
`23:12.27`	`Thrae`	`Kaelten: I still think your best bet is clustering, get some other people like me to help out. When your system's load gets too heavy, pass it off to another mirror.`
`23:12.29`	`Health`	`epeen messurements!`
`23:12.35`	`Uruloke`	`:P`
`23:12.46`	`eternally777`	`ty hyperChipmunk`
`23:12.46`	`Azurewrath`	`Uruloke: you use a raid0 to store your Data on? Thats not very.. err.. clever ;p`
`23:12.53`	`Thrae`	`Uruloke: I'm too busy paying my health insurance to make Microsoft World load 15 seconds faster ;)`
`23:13.01`	`Thrae`	`s/World/Word/`
`23:13.19`	`Uruloke`	`Azurewrath: hey, I wanted a 500 gig partition :P`
`23:13.44`	`Azurewrath`	`great... and if one drive dies everything is fucked up`
`23:14.04`	`Uruloke`	`yeah`
`23:14.36`	`Uruloke`	`I have two non-raid 200 gigs though for sensitive data`
`23:14.36`	`Azurewrath`	`i use a single 200gig disk for data and backup the most important things to a 80gig raid1 on a small 'server' :)`
`23:15.29`	`nevcairiel`	`I am confused, on the transgaming website they charge you for Cedega, but in the Gentoo ebuild repos its in for free.`
`23:15.39`	`Uruloke`	`it isn't, nev`
`23:15.50`	`hyperChipmunk`	`sans the proprietary libs`
`23:16.04`	`nevcairiel`	`i knew i was missing something`
`23:16.11`	`Uruloke`	`you need to download the file from transgaming before Gento can install it`
`23:16.18`	`Nightdew`	`Kebinusan: What kind of events is SpellStatus missing?`
`23:16.23`	`nevcairiel`	`did anyone actually try cedega if its any better then wine ?`
`23:16.29`	`Uruloke`	`I've tried it`
`23:16.35`	`nevcairiel`	`and?`
`23:16.42`	`Uruloke`	`only on my laptop though...`
`23:16.43`	`Thrae`	`nevcairiel: You can compile most of Cedega from their CVS repository and even pass it around since it's based on Wine, which is totally open source. However, as said, Cedega makes use of some of their own libs which they don't let you use.`
`23:17.12`	`Thrae`	`But for most cases, you get what you need from CVS`
`23:17.14`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I build winex from CVS and link the cedega libs`
`23:17.17`	`Uruloke`	`it's decent, my laptop didn't run WoW in linux properly though`
`23:18.05`	`Thrae`	`nevcairiel: Did you go to www.winehq.com and browse their database, one which states how WoW runs in Linux -- problems, how to get it running, etc.?`
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`23:18.52`	`Rophy`	`in AceEvent-2.0, if I registered multiple events to the same handler, how do I know what was the event being fired when the handler is being called?`
`23:18.52`	`nevcairiel`	`i was looking through a lots of pages.`
`23:19.08`	`Uruloke`	`Rophy: you'll have a global event variable`
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`23:19.29`	`Rophy`	`what if it is a custom event, not blizzard event?`
`23:19.49`	`Uruloke`	`add event as the first argument in the function I guess`
`23:20.05`	`Greywind`	`aye`
`23:20.18`	`Rophy`	`so... no solution when I'm not the one who fired the event?`
`23:20.32`	`Rophy`	`(which means I can' change the args)`
`23:20.44`	`Uruloke`	`function myeventhandler(event)`
`23:21.17`	`Uruloke`	`then just check the event variable`
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`23:21.48`	`kergoth`	`Rophy: just create one handler function that accepts the event as the first arg, then create two small closures and register those`
`23:22.07`	`Skyboat`	`is there any way for an event to trigger a function, rather than it being hooked with Ace2?`
`23:22.07`	`kergoth`	`:RegisterEvent("Foo", function() TheHandler("Foo") end)`
`23:22.08`	`kergoth`	`or whatever`
`23:22.24`	`Rophy`	`hmm`
`23:22.33`	`Rophy`	`sounds good`
`23:22.47`	`kergoth`	`cant think of another way, but that way you can have your common code for both events in one place`
`23:22.53`	`kergoth`	`which i presume was the goal`
`23:23.01`	`Rophy`	`yup.`
`23:24.08`	`Uruloke`	`am sure I read somewhere that for user defined events, the event name gets passed as the first argument to the handler`
`23:24.38`	`Plorkyeran`	`It doesn't`
`23:24.52`	`Rophy`	`that'll confuse things even more.`
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`23:27.18`	`LordRhys`	`whats the address for the main web page now?`
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`23:28.22`	`nevcairiel`	`www.wowace.com`
`23:28.26`	`nevcairiel`	`(down at the moment)`
`23:28.40`	`LordRhys`	`ok thats why couldn't get to it, thanks`
`23:29.05`	`Uruloke`	`just checked the AceEvent source okay, you're right... it doesn't pass it`
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`23:30.19`	`kergoth`	`woudl be bad if it did, inconsistent`
`23:30.33`	`Uruloke`	`how so?`
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`23:31.37`	`Plorkyeran`	`Custom and non-custom events should be handled the same way`
`23:32.03`	`kergoth`	`exactly`
`23:32.18`	`Uruloke`	`in that case, wouldn't it be best to set a global event variable for custom events just like non-custom ones?`
`23:32.20`	`Plorkyeran`	`Which ideally would involve the event global variable being set for custom events :P`
`23:33.42`	`Uruloke`	`ah well... off to bed`
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`23:36.15`	`ckknight`	`you check _G.event for which event is fired.`
`23:36.31`	`Weslocke`	`Anyone have a spot to grab a relatively recent !!!libraries? I did a new checkout last night and a ton of the externals didn't get updated. (!!!Libraries for example, and CorkFU)`
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`23:43.35`	`AxiumKT`	`hrm is there's something i'm missing about the latest praid? deficit labels suddenly missing`
`23:45.45`	`cladhaire`	`they shouldn't be.`
`23:45.45`	`cladhaire`	`but "latest" is a very nebulous concept.`
`23:45.45`	`AxiumKT`	`haha agreed`
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`23:46.32`	`AxiumKT`	`well this is r12132 :P`
`23:47.06`	`Greywind`	`i have been gone all day, the new server giving us problems?`
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`23:47.21`	`Tekkub`	`nah, it's clad giving us sas`
`23:47.25`	`Greywind`	`ah :P`
`23:47.39`	`Greywind`	`took it down to spite us eh? :D`
`23:48.04`	`DrDre`	`note to self: dont open a 2nd copy of wow when trying to open firefox`
`23:48.32`	`Affen_Uzglug`	`hi guys. is there a way to get the latest snapshots of ace projects? wowace.com seems to be down. i cant connect to the site`
`23:48.36`	`Greywind`	`DrDre: hehe i used to do that a lot too :P`
`23:48.52`	`DrDre`	`lol my wow shortcut is right beside firefox`
`23:49.05`	`Greywind`	`so was mine, i had to move it :P`
`23:49.07`	`AxiumKT`	`cladhaire: yeah no clue where they went--i'll poke around when i get a breath in raid :P`
`23:49.53`	`DrDre`	`Affen: type !url <AddonNameCaseSenstive> and use the Alt link`
`23:50.41`	`Affen_Uzglug`	`DrDre, thanks`
`23:50.52`	`Affen_Uzglug`	`!url SimpleCombatLog`
`23:50.53`	`SVNBot`	`Main: http://www.wowace.com/files/SimpleCombatLog/`
`23:50.53`	`SVNBot`	`Alt: http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/SimpleCombatLog/`
`23:50.53`	`SVNBot`	`Info: http://www.wowace.com/index.php/TOC_Data/SimpleCombatLog`
`23:52.27`	`Greywind`	`ah, now i remember why i dont go to the official forums. just tried to help a n00b out on my realm forums and then got flamed that ace and ace2 addons are basically the devil while cosmos will solve world hungersighs and curls up in ball wondering about the worlds future`
`23:52.59`	`Tekkub`	`yea I gave up on the o forums long ago`
`23:53.11`	`Tekkub`	`I go there for the "upcoming changes" thread and nothing else`
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`23:53.20`	`Greywind`	`what can i say i am(was?) an optimist`
`23:53.25`	`Tekkub`	`oh and to harass slow ken into implementing things`
`23:53.33`	`Greywind`	`lol`
`23:54.22`	`Azgrim`	`site down?`
`23:54.33`	`Tekkub`	`*points at topic`
`23:54.38`	`Greywind`	`but everything will be all right now`
`23:54.39`	`Greywind`	`/me pats bottle of tequila`
`23:54.59`	`Tekkub`	`hrm... I have wodka but no orange wuice`
`23:55.08`	`Flam`	`Fnarghlrs`
`23:55.13`	`Greywind`	`aww poor tekkie pooh`
`23:55.23`	`Flam`	`WTB aced replacement for DAB :(`
`23:55.24`	`Tekkub`	`and I work at 7am /cry`
`23:55.31`	`Greywind`	`>.<`
`23:57.28`	`kergoth`	`goddamnit, fishease replaces the worldframe onmouseup and onmousedown without calling the existing scripts`
`23:57.32`	`kergoth`	`so it breaks DuctTape`
`23:57.36`	`chrisa`	`"cosmos will solve world hunger"`
`23:57.40`	`chrisa`	`... cosmos is still out?`
`23:57.55`	`deci`	`anyone have a link to teksupport since the site is down!`
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`23:59.18`	`Tekkub`	`!url tekSupport`
`23:59.18`	`SVNBot`	`Main: http://www.wowace.com/files/tekSupport/`
`23:59.18`	`SVNBot`	`Alt: http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/tekSupport/`
`23:59.18`	`SVNBot`	`Info: http://www.wowace.com/index.php/TOC_Data/tekSupport`
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