| 00:00.00 | alkis | If the link isn't valid, you'll find out as soon as it disconnects you. |
| 00:00.00 | alkis | (If you ONLY use this for items you've gotten from the standard game API's during the current play session then you'll never be disconnected) |
| 00:00.49 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r12760 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames-enUS.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): ag_UnitFrames: Everything should be localizable now, afaik. |
| 00:00.50 | Xuerian | Seems like the way that AtlasLoot does their item verification |
| 00:00.55 | Kaelten | alkis thats fairly acurate |
| 00:01.10 | alkis | a dev on worldofwarcraft forums posted it |
| 00:01.15 | alkis | i would hope it would be :-p |
| 00:01.20 | Xuerian | lol |
| 00:01.22 | alkis | but still the api kinda sucks |
| 00:01.35 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 00:01.35 | Kaelten | yep |
| 00:01.39 | Kaelten | its to prevent datamining |
| 00:01.39 | alkis | " if the data isn't in cache yet, you'll get nil for a little bit while the data comes back from the server." |
| 00:01.57 | alkis | i like the nice specification: "you get nil for a little while" |
| 00:02.08 | alkis | so specific and so helpful :-p |
| 00:02.51 | Kaelten | its a random time based on server load and latency :) |
| 00:03.06 | alkis | clearly... |
| 00:03.31 | alkis | in those case you set an event though for scripts to know when the value is back |
| 00:03.51 | alkis | what am i supposed to do if i get nil :-p |
| 00:03.54 | alkis | wait for a little while? lol |
| 00:03.56 | Kaelten | either that or lock up their machine, or check it every .1 seconds |
| 00:04.30 | paranoidi | http://addiktit.net/~paranoidi/sa_new2.png (warning, large file) |
| 00:05.25 | alkis | so Kaelten it seems better if i get all the info i need when the item is looted (and i got the link for it) |
| 00:05.43 | alkis | that way i can do the display tooltip/hide hack and make sure the info is there |
| 00:06.09 | mjc | paranoidi: the targets? |
| 00:06.12 | alkis | from what they say, since the item was linked it is safe to open tooltip (safe as you will not be disconected) |
| 00:06.29 | Kaelten | alkis should be |
| 00:06.50 | paranoidi | mjc: yesss... the new customizable target list in SmartAssist that I've been working on for some time now :) |
| 00:06.50 | mjc | paranoidi: damn, huge script memory :P |
| 00:06.52 | alkis | i will try it out and see :-) |
| 00:07.00 | mjc | paranoidi: sweet! |
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| 00:07.36 | paranoidi | bad news on there, smartassist is memory hog .. unless I implement compost, which I don't think is worth the trouble as TBC with better gc is on the door |
| 00:07.39 | alkis | thanks for the eye opening discussion! i wouldn't have found out all this stuff that quickly. cheers! |
| 00:09.08 | ckknight | paranoidi, live in the present, use compost and change it later when TBC comes out. |
| 00:09.10 | eternally777 | paranoidi: Compost isn't that difficult to implement. Especially if you use Find+Replace often |
| 00:09.46 | paranoidi | well, the problem is "returning" tables to the pool .. not aqcuiring |
| 00:10.21 | ckknight | you should know how to properly do that |
| 00:10.27 | Tekkub | ...... |
| 00:10.38 | Tekkub | new southpark finally this week |
| 00:10.42 | Tekkub | ... |
| 00:10.50 | mjc | lol |
| 00:10.54 | ckknight | yea, something where Kenny plays WoW |
| 00:11.03 | dreyruugr | paranoidi: What's the hard part about that? |
| 00:11.08 | ckknight | I mean, don't you know where you nil your tables, paranoidi? |
| 00:11.26 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r12761 10Clique/Plugins/Clique_BlizzUnitFrames.lua: Clique: Added pet support in Blizzard Unit Frames |
| 00:11.28 | alkis | btw Tekkub and Kaelten, can you see why this pattern doesn't work for hyperlinks? "^|%S+|Hitem:(%d+):%d+:%d+:%d+|h%.+|h|r$" |
| 00:11.45 | eternally777 | Oh, I'm supposed to nil and reclaim tables? |
| 00:11.51 | paranoidi | two words, "nested tables" ;P |
| 00:11.57 | eternally777 | Just kidding :-P |
| 00:11.59 | Tekkub | uh... you overcomplicating it? what do you need from the link? |
| 00:12.13 | alkis | i use this now: "^.+Hitem:(%d+):%d+:%d+:%d+|.+$" |
| 00:12.27 | Tekkub | you just need the itemid? |
| 00:12.32 | alkis | but i am still wondering why the first one didn't work :-) |
| 00:12.33 | alkis | yeah |
| 00:12.35 | dreyruugr | paranoidi: recursive function ftw... though it seems compost should handle nested tables on it's own |
| 00:12.43 | ckknight | it does. |
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| 00:12.49 | ckknight | compost:Reclaim(t, 1) |
| 00:12.51 | dreyruugr | well there you go :) |
| 00:12.51 | Tekkub | then all you need is "Hitem:(%d+):" |
| 00:12.52 | ckknight | goes 1 table deep. |
| 00:13.11 | JoshBork1 | hola |
| 00:13.21 | Tekkub | http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=86&Set=64 |
| 00:13.25 | alkis | :-) |
| 00:13.26 | Tekkub | .... not remotly funny |
| 00:13.32 | Tekkub | and that's this month's winner? |
| 00:13.34 | ckknight | yea, I know |
| 00:13.35 | ckknight | it sucked. |
| 00:13.41 | ckknight | but it appealed to the masses |
| 00:13.43 | ckknight | like Garfield. |
| 00:13.48 | ckknight | that's why it won |
| 00:13.56 | Tekkub | garfield is a crack addict |
| 00:14.12 | Tekkub | you know that white shit in lasagna... yea... |
| 00:14.14 | ckknight | lasagne = crack? |
| 00:14.49 | ckknight | I thought this was good: http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=81&Set=64 |
| 00:14.59 | Tekkub | yea |
| 00:15.07 | alkis | Tekkub: if i put hyperlinks in a tablet will those trigger tooltips? |
| 00:15.56 | dreyruugr | What is Tablet? |
| 00:15.59 | Tekkub | no |
| 00:16.14 | alkis | oh well... i will keep just the name then :-) |
| 00:16.15 | Azurewrath | oh, new darklegacy comic :) |
| 00:16.17 | alkis | thanks |
| 00:16.23 | Azurewrath | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/61.jpg |
| 00:16.29 | alkis | dreyruugr check AceTablet-2.0 |
| 00:16.31 | ckknight | dreyruugr, Tablet is a library I wrote |
| 00:16.35 | ckknight | it's not AceTablet. |
| 00:16.39 | Tekkub | everyone email the DL guy and ask for RSS |
| 00:16.42 | dreyruugr | wiki page for it? |
| 00:16.45 | Tekkub | he said he was considering it |
| 00:16.49 | ckknight | Tablet-2.0 |
| 00:16.50 | clad|work | Anyone know of any other issues with Clique at the moment? |
| 00:16.57 | Tekkub | and that he's had a few requests, so sent him more requests |
| 00:17.00 | ckknight | it makes a tooltip-like display |
| 00:17.04 | ckknight | for showing stuff |
| 00:17.04 | mjc | it doesn't oil my creaky joints |
| 00:17.08 | ckknight | not for scanning tooltips |
| 00:17.29 | vhaarr | clad|work: The bug I reported yesterday, but it's not exactly urgent. |
| 00:17.38 | clad|work | vhaarr: Whats that, the right clicking bug? |
| 00:17.41 | vhaarr | yes |
| 00:17.45 | clad|work | I can't reproduce it, and its likely a library issue. |
| 00:17.52 | clad|work | can you reproduce it on the latest checkout? |
| 00:17.54 | vhaarr | well only happened once anyway |
| 00:17.54 | alkis | ckknight would it be possible to add tooltips to Tablet? |
| 00:18.10 | vhaarr | clad|work: No, it only happened once, and then never again. After I installed Clique and logged in. |
| 00:18.18 | ckknight | I don't know what you're asking. |
| 00:18.21 | ckknight | frankly, I doubt it |
| 00:18.22 | clad|work | *nod* that's what you had said.. okay |
| 00:18.27 | clad|work | we'll not worry about it at the moment :P |
| 00:18.34 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 00:18.39 | alkis | i am asking if it would be possible to add working hyperlinks in tablets |
| 00:18.46 | BoltR | Err, has anyone had Anub bug out so he is just running around the room? |
| 00:18.56 | CIA-11 | 03phyber 07phyber * r12762 10KeepItCool/KeepItCool-Metrognome/ (9 files): |
| 00:18.56 | CIA-11 | KeepItCool: |
| 00:18.56 | CIA-11 | - KeepItCool, modified to use Metrognome so I could drop Timex. Not yet tested, but it should work fine. |
| 00:18.57 | Tekkub | no |
| 00:19.07 | BoltR | After a locust swarm I hit him once, and then he started running around the room |
| 00:19.08 | ckknight | no, alkis |
| 00:19.12 | BoltR | Still aggroed on me |
| 00:19.12 | Tekkub | you need to do your own onclick shit for those links and handle your own links |
| 00:19.19 | ckknight | yea, that'd work |
| 00:19.29 | Tekkub | like PeriodicMenu does |
| 00:19.34 | clad|work | Which is the current RosterLib.. there is /trunk/RosterLib and /trunk/RosterLib-2.0 |
| 00:19.37 | clad|work | any idea? |
| 00:19.49 | Tekkub | not -2.0 clad |
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| 00:19.51 | alkis | hmm... that sounds doable... |
| 00:19.58 | alkis | so i will keep the hyperlink around then |
| 00:20.03 | Tekkub | -2.0 needs to go if there are no externals pointing at it anymore |
| 00:20.19 | alkis | but i will extract the data at loot time to guarantee that i get it |
| 00:20.24 | ckknight | http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=66&Set=64 is another funny one |
| 00:20.25 | mjc | http://members.shaw.ca/olsens/evasiontank.jpg |
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| 00:20.44 | vhaarr | clad|work: Note the |error("Please update this addon's externals, RosterLib-2.0 has moved to http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/RosterLib/RosterLib-2.0/")| in RosterLib-2.0 |
| 00:21.00 | vhaarr | that URL is wrong now, obviously |
| 00:21.10 | clad|work | vhaarr: sounds good, that's not obvious if you're not lookgin at the code =) |
| 00:21.21 | vhaarr | clad|work: you would've found out fast though :) |
| 00:21.26 | BoltR | heh mjc, back in the day we had a rogue tank nef through 3 shadow flames |
| 00:21.31 | BoltR | He resisted the mlol |
| 00:21.37 | mjc | heh |
| 00:21.43 | eternally777 | Is there a way to make SciTE used the monospace font by default? |
| 00:22.14 | Tuller | you should be able to edit its global settings |
| 00:22.19 | clad|work | eternally777: yeah, its in the global property file |
| 00:22.51 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r12763 10Detox/locals_zhCN.lua: Detox: updated chinese locals |
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| 00:23.44 | clad|work | Anyone familiar with teh API for RosterLib? |
| 00:23.53 | clad|work | cause there's not much documentation on it |
| 00:23.57 | vhaarr | clad|work: yeah |
| 00:24.18 | JoshBork1 | clad|work: most of the API is in the forum thread about it |
| 00:24.21 | clad|work | hrm |
| 00:24.39 | vhaarr | clad|work: I'm going to bed in a sec though, but just ask |
| 00:24.54 | clad|work | just trying to figure out what i need to do, since I currently respond to R_R_U and update my own roster |
| 00:25.20 | clad|work | whats the equiv of that here, registering for RosterLib_RosterChanged and what? is the iterator predictable (i.e. raid1, raid2, .. etc)? |
| 00:25.42 | JoshBork1 | i'm not sure about the iterator, i know maia (the creator) had trouble with that |
| 00:25.44 | alkis | lua wizards, is there a way to flaten a table? (so that flaten({1,2,3,4}) return 1,2,3,4 end for example)? |
| 00:25.44 | vhaarr | you basically replace your roster by rosterlib |
| 00:25.52 | clad|work | alkis: unpack(table) |
| 00:25.57 | clad|work | vhaarr: Yes, i know that. |
| 00:26.15 | alkis | clad|work thanks |
| 00:26.19 | vhaarr | clad|work: then you don't have to worry about RRU |
| 00:26.31 | clad|work | vhaarr: Yes I know.. i'm trying to udnerstand the behavior of the iterator, and events system |
| 00:26.39 | clad|work | i'm away it replaces what i currently have |
| 00:26.40 | vhaarr | clad|work: just do for |k, unit in AceLibrary("RosterLib-2.0").roster do| |
| 00:26.54 | clad|work | see, that's different from calling IterateRoster. |
| 00:26.59 | clad|work | does .roster include pets? |
| 00:27.00 | vhaarr | and then you'll have unit.unitid and unit.name |
| 00:27.23 | Neebler | http://worldofraids.free.fr/bc/ashbringer.jpg |
| 00:27.40 | vhaarr | clad|work: yes |
| 00:27.58 | clad|work | Okauy, then i probably want IterateRoster, cause I can avoid pets that way.. Ok.. thanks. |
| 00:28.03 | clad|work | there should really be a wiki page |
| 00:28.07 | JoshBork1 | clad|work: do you still want mirrors? |
| 00:28.16 | clad|work | JoshBork1: It wouldn't hurt, so yes =) |
| 00:28.20 | vhaarr | clad|work: if unit.class ~= "PET" |
| 00:29.24 | JoshBork1 | clad|work: so i've followed the setup instructions on mjc's talk page. where do i go from here (i gave myself svn5.wowace.com temporarily) |
| 00:30.04 | mjc | svnsync command |
| 00:30.43 | clad|work | hrm.. you'll be svn6 |
| 00:30.52 | JoshBork1 | hrmph. doesn't look like i've got svnsync :-/ |
| 00:30.53 | mjc | nice |
| 00:30.54 | clad|work | and i'll need a domain that svn6 can point to. |
| 00:30.59 | mjc | JoshBork1: upgrade to svn 1.4 |
| 00:31.34 | JoshBork1 | lol, i have version 1.1.4 installed! |
| 00:31.45 | mjc | hahah |
| 00:31.49 | clad|work | JoshBork1: What domain does the box currently have, just for redirectino. |
| 00:31.52 | [FH]Birdemani | that asbrringer pic is most likely fake, they have no crit % in the game on items anymore |
| 00:31.57 | JoshBork1 | joshborke.is-a-geek.com |
| 00:31.59 | clad|work | no one sees it.. you can just send me a msg |
| 00:32.16 | clad|work | lol |
| 00:32.30 | clad|work | k.. DNS put in |
| 00:32.30 | Tekkub | oh I like |
| 00:32.37 | clad|work | now you have to get initialized, which means svn 1.4 |
| 00:32.45 | JoshBork1 | ok, working on it :-D |
| 00:32.53 | Tekkub | dyndns, wewt |
| 00:32.58 | JoshBork1 | Tekkub: :-D |
| 00:33.06 | Tekkub | tekkub.mine.nu I think is mine, I'll change that |
| 00:33.11 | kergoth | s/uars/uras/ |
| 00:34.04 | Xuerian | Hehe, fun isn't it, kergoth? |
| 00:34.34 | kergoth | yeah :) |
| 00:34.39 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/images/wow_054.jpg |
| 00:34.42 | kergoth | good stuff |
| 00:34.49 | alkis | Kaelten on the GII issue, now that i think about it... it would be even better if I get the player who looted the item to send the II to the guild/raid. The looter is guaranteed to have II in the cache, right? |
| 00:35.37 | Kaelten | hrm maybe |
| 00:36.22 | alkis | right now i put a gross hack... to get this done with and start testing... my todo/fixit list is getting longer and longer though :-p |
| 00:36.38 | Tekkub | welcome to my world |
| 00:37.02 | alkis | better get something that does something first and then improve. small steps are better :-p |
| 00:37.14 | dreyruugr | optimize later |
| 00:37.17 | dreyruugr | :) |
| 00:37.25 | alkis | as always :-) |
| 00:37.36 | alkis | unless you work for google :-p |
| 00:37.46 | dreyruugr | heh |
| 00:38.11 | JoshBork1 | hrm. i think i'm gonna need more ram for the computer |
| 00:39.27 | JoshBork1 | any guesses how i can figure out the motherboard while in linux? |
| 00:39.34 | Xuerian | Heheh, kergoth, I didn't know about slash separators, makes it easier XD. |
| 00:39.42 | alkis | lspci ? |
| 00:39.42 | kergoth | yep :) |
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| 00:41.53 | alkis | the value of myTable[0] is always nil? or can i assign that too? |
| 00:42.34 | MentalPower | you can assign that too |
| 00:42.58 | MentalPower | but be wary of doing it on tables that belong to frames |
| 00:43.13 | JoshBork1 | ok well, clad|work, it probably won't be ready until tomorrow night |
| 00:43.14 | MentalPower | since that fields holds the frame's userdata |
| 00:43.17 | alkis | nah i just do to it to map item quality to some value |
| 00:44.38 | ckknight | alkis, you can assign anything but nil as a key. |
| 00:45.23 | alkis | :-) |
| 00:45.42 | Pik|Silvermoon | Is there a way to create command line options that have aliases? |
| 00:45.59 | Pik|Silvermoon | If I duplicate the option it bloats the list of options. |
| 00:46.10 | Pik|Silvermoon | But I want to allow for people typing option or options |
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| 00:48.03 | [FH]Birdemani | is there a reason why when I take a flask it shows 2%d h in the default setup and when I use elkbuffbar? |
| 00:49.44 | Kemayo | KrteK: You wondered as to my presence? |
| 00:50.13 | KrteK | Kemayo, yes, about FuBar_ToFu |
| 00:51.18 | Kemayo | What do you want to know? |
| 00:51.45 | Kemayo | And did Tekkub put you up to this? |
| 00:51.54 | vhaarr | clad|work: Seems anything between 12656 abd 12750 is missing from google groups |
| 00:52.03 | Tekkub | eh? |
| 00:52.03 | vhaarr | s/abd/and |
| 00:53.40 | KrteK | Kemayo, Sorry, we've just pulled Moam ^^ It complains about nil value just after installing on the taxi Frame... I think there's just a check to add when showing information about path |
| 00:54.20 | Arrowmaster | FuBar_ToFu has been bugged for the past several days |
| 00:57.03 | alkis | omg it works :-p |
| 00:57.05 | clad|work | Okay.. vhaarr there are 900 emails waiting to be sent, that I cna't do anythign about |
| 00:57.14 | vhaarr | ah |
| 00:57.21 | clad|work | =) |
| 00:58.11 | JoshBork1 | night all |
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| 00:58.15 | mjc | kergoth: still work0ring? |
| 00:58.39 | kergoth | no, now fishing |
| 00:58.46 | mjc | heh |
| 00:58.57 | mjc | would you mind taking a loot? |
| 00:58.59 | mjc | Look |
| 00:59.52 | kergoth | sure |
| 01:00.43 | mjc | ok... //local is my repo, I'm doing ./svkco.py //local AddOns |
| 01:00.48 | mjc | I'm in my Interface dir |
| 01:01.51 | kergoth | mjc: update your svkco.py from my homefiles repo |
| 01:01.54 | kergoth | just synced, had some local changes |
| 01:02.09 | kergoth | see if that helps |
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| 01:02.33 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/projects/homefiles/changeset/371 |
| 01:03.59 | FlareCDE | Could I pick someone's brain real quick? ^^ Got a quick question. |
| 01:04.15 | Kebinusan | Ok, so apparently if you summon someone and they get leather balls thrown at them, then accept the summon... the balls will fly across the continent to that person |
| 01:04.23 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r12764 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaid.toc): |
| 01:04.23 | CIA-11 | PerfectRaid: |
| 01:04.23 | CIA-11 | * Updated to RosterLib.. this should resolve many of the random issues people have been seeing |
| 01:04.23 | CIA-11 | * I'm not 100% satisfied with it, but I'll look at making those changes later |
| 01:04.42 | Zeryl | hey industrial, I just updated idUnitWatch, and for some reason, alt moving isn't working now ;( |
| 01:05.37 | Zeryl | how can I check out an old revision from svN? |
| 01:05.44 | kergoth | Kebinusan: hahah |
| 01:06.05 | FlareCDE | (I'll just ask...) I'm trying to replace textures and move / resize elements of the default Character Frame... is this even possible? I got a texture up, but it's just showing up behind the default art ><. |
| 01:06.37 | eternally777 | FlareCDE: I'd recommend taking a look at oSkin's code. |
| 01:06.49 | eternally777 | FlareCDE: oSkin does exactly that. |
| 01:06.50 | FlareCDE | Ok. Thanks, will do. |
| 01:07.17 | eternally777 | No problem. |
| 01:07.48 | mjc | kergoth: server issues? |
| 01:08.05 | Zeryl | anyone? |
| 01:08.17 | kergoth | mjc: yeah its being slow |
| 01:08.33 | Azurewrath | Zeryl: update to revision |
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| 01:09.30 | Zeryl | yay, thanks, i see that now |
| 01:10.14 | mjc | kergoth: molasses |
| 01:11.35 | eternally777 | ~svndown |
| 01:11.37 | purl | ACTION flees in terror as a giant whale named Franklin, who often foams from the mouth, collapses in a bout of violent siezures due to the recent and tragic death of the SVN. |
| 01:12.30 | eternally777 | It's ok folks, that was only a test of our new Emergency Broadcasting System. Again, that was _only_ a test. |
| 01:14.27 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r12765 10PerfectRaid/ (5 files): |
| 01:14.27 | CIA-11 | PerfectRaid: |
| 01:14.27 | CIA-11 | * Added zhCN localization, split kr and en files out |
| 01:15.07 | Tekkub | [Evilpeanut] has come online |
| 01:15.23 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r12766 10PerfectRaid/ (5 files): PerfectRaid: Renamed some files |
| 01:16.05 | Zeryl | Industrial: externals are failing on idUnitWatch (thus the alt key not working) |
| 01:16.10 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r12767 10tekSupport/tekSupport.toc: tekSupport - Now LoD... SupplyAndDemand... etc |
| 01:16.33 | mjc | kergoth: damn, still no go |
| 01:16.39 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r12768 10tekProber/tekProber.toc: tekProber - Now LoD... SupplyAndDemand... etc |
| 01:17.28 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r12769 10Squeenix/Squeenix.toc: Squeenix - Fucking hippies piss me off |
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| 01:18.11 | ckknight | hippies? |
| 01:18.15 | mjc | kergoth: could ya dcc it ? :P |
| 01:18.36 | Tekkub | hippie |
| 01:18.37 | Tekkub | s |
| 01:20.08 | ckknight | what'd the hippies do to you, Tekkub? |
| 01:20.10 | Zeryl | ok, so the files downloaded at http://www.wowace.com/files don't include externals? |
| 01:20.14 | ckknight | did they, did they touch you? |
| 01:20.21 | ckknight | no one has that right, Tekkub. |
| 01:20.24 | Tekkub | hippiehumppies |
| 01:20.50 | mjc | nipplehumpers |
| 01:21.22 | Zeryl | or should it, and they are just failing? |
| 01:21.23 | ckknight | hooray for boobies |
| 01:21.59 | *** join/#wowace Curney (n=chatzill@adsl-75-45-199-206.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:22.22 | mjc | kergoth: solved my //local/MrPlow issue by svk checkout --purge |
| 01:22.52 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/trac/report/1 |
| 01:22.53 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 01:23.37 | Industrial | Zeryl: yeah Trac it so i wont forget =P |
| 01:23.43 | Zeryl | kk |
| 01:23.51 | Industrial | xD |
| 01:23.56 | Tekkub | ow |
| 01:24.12 | Industrial | Anyway, nini |
| 01:24.37 | FlareCDE | Hmm, having no luck making the default player texture die. I can kill the portrait, but killing all the regions on the default player frame is not producing the desired result... |
| 01:25.05 | Zeryl | crap, i didn't put a good description on the title of the ticket, i'm sorry :( |
| 01:26.09 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower_ (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 01:26.28 | Tekkub | Industrial, http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/11 |
| 01:26.56 | Industrial | seen it :> |
| 01:27.07 | Industrial | going to bed :( |
| 01:27.12 | Tekkub | :P |
| 01:27.17 | Industrial | gunna play wow at school tomorrow |
| 01:27.19 | Industrial | go go tunnels! |
| 01:27.20 | Industrial | :D |
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| 01:28.36 | Industrial | and mac adress spoofing to get wireless |
| 01:28.39 | Industrial | muhahaha |
| 01:29.03 | Industrial | playing wow in the school yard = pwn. It makes me look cool in front of the girls |
| 01:29.21 | Tekkub | someone WTS him a clue? |
| 01:29.52 | Tem | we all know he wouldn't pay |
| 01:29.56 | Tem | so it's not worht the effort |
| 01:30.08 | Tekkub | ugh... I hate setting externals |
| 01:31.26 | Zeryl | so what happens if i download !!!Libraries, and extract it, and there are libraries in the folder? anything? |
| 01:31.32 | Industrial | I actually act pretty normally, normally. Yes thats right, act! Its all geeky inside :-) |
| 01:31.44 | mjc | my druid has dinged 40! |
| 01:31.51 | Industrial | WEWT GZ!!! |
| 01:31.56 | mjc | mount too |
| 01:32.02 | FlareCDE | Can someone clue me in on what the name of the element with the player frame texture is? Hiding PlayerFrameBackground doesn't seem to be doing it. |
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| 01:33.27 | Industrial | PlayerFrameTexture |
| 01:33.32 | Industrial | *badoom tisch* |
| 01:34.25 | FlareCDE | Awesome, that was it... now why couldn't I *find* it! >< |
| 01:34.33 | Industrial | xD |
| 01:34.53 | Industrial | nom im really gone |
| 01:34.56 | mjc | kergoth: so far so good |
| 01:34.59 | Industrial | FlareCDE: try DevTools |
| 01:35.11 | FlareCDE | Ok. |
| 01:35.14 | FlareCDE | Thanks :). |
| 01:35.57 | Zeryl | industrial: should I use trac for two suggestions? |
| 01:36.20 | ckknight | remember when that Congressman renamed french fries to freedom fries? At my high school, that lasted for at least a few months. Hehe, it was fun to order freedom fries, stuck it to the French every time. |
| 01:39.23 | ckknight | I think we should all go out and order Freedom Fries and Liberty Cabbage |
| 01:39.26 | ckknight | yum |
| 01:39.55 | Xuerian | Fries and cabbage? |
| 01:39.56 | Xuerian | .... |
| 01:40.19 | ckknight | Liberty Cabbage is Sauerkraut. |
| 01:40.24 | ckknight | changed in WW1 |
| 01:40.34 | ckknight | to garner American support |
| 01:40.46 | ckknight | hamburgers became liberty steaks, as well |
| 01:41.17 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12770 10Chronometer/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:41.17 | CIA-11 | Chronometer: |
| 01:41.17 | CIA-11 | UTF-8 the locale file (it's probably still broken right now...) |
| 01:41.17 | CIA-11 | Fix reactive (click to recast) bars, and add "ghost" feature for control over fadeout to make it more useful |
| 01:41.19 | Xuerian | Isn't it a little backwards to take something everyone associates with something foreign... to something american? >_> |
| 01:41.26 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r12771 10FuBar_CorkFu/FuBar_CorkFu.toc: FuBar_CorkFu - TOC metadata |
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| 01:41.50 | *** part/#wowace FireMoth (n=TimothyF@cpe-72-226-238-250.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 01:42.33 | ckknight | Xuerian, but the French didn't support the war, and we still like to eat fries |
| 01:42.47 | ckknight | so, instead of getting rid of fries, they now become patriotic |
| 01:43.08 | mjc | heh |
| 01:43.33 | ckknight | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_fries |
| 01:45.32 | Xuerian | lol. |
| 01:45.39 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r12772 10GratuityLib/ (. GratuityLib.toc): |
| 01:45.39 | CIA-11 | GratuityLib - TOC updates |
| 01:45.40 | CIA-11 | - Now LoD |
| 01:45.40 | CIA-11 | - externals updated |
| 01:46.11 | Neebler | http://files.filefront.com/herbrar/;5545214;;/filesinfo.html |
| 01:46.16 | Neebler | makes herbs super easy to see |
| 01:46.45 | Zeryl | amd o |
| 01:46.49 | Zeryl | bah |
| 01:46.51 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12773 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: |
| 01:46.51 | CIA-11 | CandyBar: If I shouldn't be touching this, please feel free to revert this |
| 01:46.51 | CIA-11 | Make fadeout linear instead of exponential (I think this is what was originally intended...) |
| 01:46.51 | CIA-11 | Clear the timer text out to 0.0 when stopping a bar, since it will still be visible during fadeout and having a non-0 number there could be confusing. |
| 01:46.52 | Zeryl | and it's also against the TOC |
| 01:47.12 | Arrowmaster | didnt they also make it so you cant overwrite data files anymore |
| 01:47.12 | Zeryl | ermm, lua |
| 01:47.18 | Zeryl | ermm, eula |
| 01:47.20 | Zeryl | or something like that |
| 01:48.20 | Xuerian | Don't just love it when the momentum to code runs out and that slight incline you were running up suddenly becomes a 90 degree wall you're running smack into? >_< |
| 01:49.01 | Tekkub | too bad we don't have a nice hooking library in lua that I could use to add profile numbers to tekSupport |
| 01:49.17 | mjc | Tekkub: i smell a hinthintwinkwinknudgenudge |
| 01:49.37 | Tekkub | sex? I don't smell sex |
| 01:49.41 | mjc | haha |
| 01:50.09 | mjc | Tekkub wins the horniest dev award |
| 01:51.20 | ckknight | mjc, did you add me to your Facebook? |
| 01:51.29 | mjc | not intentionally |
| 01:51.32 | mjc | but sure :P |
| 01:52.33 | mjc | I tried their gmail adding thing and forgot to remove everyone I didn't want to add |
| 01:53.33 | mjc | ckknight: Exception: Unable to checkout, as http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceConsole-2.0 is not yet mirrored. |
| 01:53.38 | mjc | sounds straightforward, but it is mirrored |
| 01:53.48 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:53.50 | ckknight | ping someone else. |
| 01:53.54 | mjc | my bad |
| 01:53.56 | mjc | :P |
| 01:54.03 | mjc | kergoth: ping (see above) |
| 01:54.10 | mjc | ckknight: confused you and kerg. |
| 01:54.56 | eternally777 | There's a WoWAce facebook group? |
| 01:54.58 | eternally777 | o.O |
| 01:55.04 | mjc | not that I know of |
| 01:55.13 | mjc | I had ckk on my gmail address book for some reason |
| 01:55.18 | mjc | haha |
| 01:55.23 | eternally777 | You should create it :-P |
| 01:55.27 | eternally777 | You've been nominated. |
| 01:55.31 | mjc | nah |
| 01:55.41 | kergoth | mjc: i added a hack in svkco.py to deal with dev. vs svn.. probably want to remove that replacement for you if your mirrors are actually of svn. |
| 01:55.52 | mjc | ah, right |
| 01:56.02 | kergoth | since i mirror dev, but hte externals point at svn |
| 01:56.15 | kergoth | probably a cleaner way, but i just hacked it in for now, did a search & replace before the comparison :P |
| 01:57.45 | mjc | I mirror svn, since I'm one of the mirrors :P |
| 01:58.04 | kergoth | ahh |
| 01:59.17 | kergoth | guess i could be too, considering i mirrored it down anyway with svk :P |
| 01:59.22 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r12774 10FuBar_RefreshmentsFu/ (. Core.lua FuBar_RefreshmentsFu.toc Libs/): |
| 01:59.22 | CIA-11 | FuBar_RefreshmentsFu - Ace2'd |
| 01:59.22 | CIA-11 | - Tablet now hides when empty, I highly recommend you try detached/locked mode :) |
| 01:59.22 | CIA-11 | - Now LoD, requires SupplyAndDemand |
| 01:59.22 | CIA-11 | - Fu-independant, can run minimap-attached |
| 01:59.37 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12775 10Chronometer/Core/Chronometer.lua: Chronometer: Fix some possible nil access errors |
| 01:59.44 | kergoth | Tekkub: i presume that means it requires either fubar or supplyanddemand |
| 01:59.49 | kergoth | Tekkub: refreshmentsfu that is |
| 01:59.58 | Tekkub | only req's S&D |
| 02:00.08 | mjc | kergoth: ok so to update I do svk update -s AddOns, no? |
| 02:00.22 | Tekkub | plugins have to be ReqDep'd on FuBar for it's LoD thing to come into play |
| 02:00.58 | kergoth | ah |
| 02:01.04 | kergoth | since fubar assumes you have no other loader |
| 02:01.23 | Tekkub | and they can't run in non-fu mode if LoD |
| 02:01.27 | Tekkub | till now :) |
| 02:02.28 | kergoth | works for me |
| 02:02.38 | kergoth | i went and made every class specific addon in my addon set use S&D |
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| 02:02.55 | clad|work | OH SHIT.. SPAM INCOMING =) |
| 02:03.05 | clad|work | if i can get this to work :P |
| 02:03.54 | Tekkub | .... |
| 02:04.04 | Tekkub | OMG SPAM!!!!! ... please hold |
| 02:04.11 | clad|work | hrm.. its throttling. |
| 02:04.20 | clad|work | but it looks like i'll be able to get this email out.. no promise. |
| 02:04.45 | Tekkub | it's like spammailers made a deal with the people that have those systems that call you automatically then connect in a live person after you answer |
| 02:04.46 | kergoth | you switching MTA's? |
| 02:04.54 | kergoth | i hate those |
| 02:05.08 | Tekkub | CallerID FTW |
| 02:05.09 | kergoth | if you dont respond in one second after i answer the phone, fuck off |
| 02:05.10 | clad|work | kergoth: i'm already on postfix.. just trying to clear out the mail queue. |
| 02:05.14 | kergoth | clad|work: ahh nice |
| 02:05.14 | Tekkub | I don't know you, I don't answer |
| 02:05.19 | kergoth | yea i do that too |
| 02:05.21 | Tekkub | I know you.. I might answer |
| 02:05.30 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:05.42 | Tekkub | but odds are you'll be talking to mah VM |
| 02:05.52 | Tekkub | I hate phones with a passion |
| 02:08.25 | eternally777 | I need an icon for EPGauge... |
| 02:08.46 | eternally777 | Something that wouldn't be X-rated if it were a movie. |
| 02:09.24 | kergoth | hahah |
| 02:09.29 | kergoth | hows that addon coming along btw? |
| 02:10.33 | eternally777 | If I didn't have to make these &%@#)&*)$%#)(%$#)& bars for each person, it would be just swell. |
| 02:11.06 | eternally777 | But alas, it must be done. |
| 02:11.24 | Kebinusan | eternally777, a ruler |
| 02:13.09 | eternally777 | Kebinusan: A ruler make a slightly unproportional icon, unless you're thinking about it at a wierd angle. How about a tape measure? |
| 02:18.46 | mjc | sounds good to me |
| 02:19.11 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12776 10Chronometer/Core/Chronometer.lua: |
| 02:19.11 | CIA-11 | Chronometer: Hopefully this fixes the IceHUD bug. |
| 02:19.12 | CIA-11 | Also, don't keep bars around if we don't need to. |
| 02:19.17 | eternally777 | I do like the idea. Thanks Kebinusan. |
| 02:19.48 | beerke | is there an option in tcgtradeskills to only show cooldowns ? |
| 02:20.04 | beerke | either it is not in there or i am blond |
| 02:20.08 | beerke | oops *blind |
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| 02:21.41 | mjc | kergoth: I just changed dev to svn :P but that didnt fix anything :( |
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| 02:22.54 | kergoth | hmm, dont see why it wouldnt be able to find the mirror |
| 02:22.58 | kergoth | it just does a svk mi -l |
| 02:23.18 | mjc | oh |
| 02:23.19 | kergoth | then compares the mirrored upstream path against the external url |
| 02:23.21 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:24.55 | Zeryl | 110,338,592 eyebeam, WOOT |
| 02:25.34 | Azurewrath | had 470 million yesterday.. and i resisted 50%.. so near one billion :D |
| 02:26.02 | Zeryl | hunter decided to aggro, and run back out |
| 02:26.08 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12777 10Chronometer/Core/Chronometer.lua: Chronometer: Some more nil value errors |
| 02:26.13 | Zeryl | so we ALL got it at the door.... |
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| 02:27.44 | KaeltenAway | gnight guys |
| 02:28.06 | eternally777 | Goodnight Kaelten. |
| 02:28.18 | mjc | night k |
| 02:28.55 | mjc | grr wtf is it that is trying to get an old external |
| 02:29.58 | kergoth | it obeys the property... if something hasnt had its externals updated correctly.. |
| 02:30.07 | mjc | that's what I'm saying |
| 02:30.11 | mjc | trying to find the one that is old |
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| 02:32.46 | Tekkub | *burp* |
| 02:35.50 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12778 10Chronometer/Core/Chronometer.lua: Chronometer: More nil value bugfixes |
| 02:39.30 | CIA-11 | 03mjc 07Thiana * r12779 10Sheppard/: Sheppard (Thiana branch) - externals |
| 02:40.35 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r12780 10PerfectRaid/ (Localization.enUS.lua PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidOptions.lua): |
| 02:40.35 | CIA-11 | PerfectRaid: |
| 02:40.36 | CIA-11 | * Added lowmana option |
| 02:40.36 | CIA-11 | * Added /praid buff to toggle buff display |
| 02:40.36 | CIA-11 | * Fixed mouseover colors |
| 02:41.03 | mjc | clad|work: be nice to have a count of the number of cooldowns a person has used |
| 02:41.09 | mjc | I'd switch back to PR if it had that ;P |
| 02:41.41 | Tekkub | did Thiana adopt Sheppard, or is it only some tweaks? |
| 02:42.01 | mjc | ace2 |
| 02:42.03 | Kemayo | So, could someone tell me the exact error they're having with ToFu? I don't have problems... |
| 02:42.32 | mjc | Kemayo: it ate my cat |
| 02:42.54 | Tekkub | tofu gives my cat gass |
| 02:42.56 | Thiana | Ace2ed and option to only warn on self/all CC methods instead of clearing target. |
| 02:43.17 | Tekkub | Thiana, make it S&D also :) |
| 02:43.25 | Tekkub | so that mages can have it of |
| 02:43.34 | Tekkub | and I'll merge it to trunk ^^ |
| 02:43.37 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r12781 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Simulation disabled until I can get a version written that works with RosterLib |
| 02:43.57 | Tekkub | clad: I'll simulate you! |
| 02:44.18 | Tekkub | <cladhaire> I'm taking the server down again |
| 02:44.23 | Tekkub | see? I win! |
| 02:44.53 | Thiana | Tekkub: I was also thinking of having it save settings. Right now it reverts to the behaviour of the original sheppard each reload. So have different saved settings for solo, party, raid. But I wasnt sure it would be stepping too far away from what you wanted for Sheppard |
| 02:45.04 | clad|work | lol |
| 02:45.08 | clad|work | thats hould be in my emulate |
| 02:45.12 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r12782 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Will no longer give Tekkub's cat gas. Also, fixed "Error: Abacus-2.0: Bad argument #2 to `FormatDurationCondensed' (number expected, got nil) on 194". |
| 02:45.15 | clad|work | imo =) |
| 02:45.20 | clad|work | you guys had plenty of material from this week |
| 02:45.30 | Tekkub | Thiana, if you're putting in a warn/clear toggle it should have a DB yes, but nothing fancy is needed |
| 02:45.34 | kergoth | Thiana: i just want to be able to force it to let me target the sheep, like if i hold down ctrl and target it or something |
| 02:45.40 | kergoth | since sometimes i -want- to break it |
| 02:45.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:45.44 | Tekkub | the solo/party/raid can be handled by S&D |
| 02:46.00 | Tekkub | oh nice idea kergy |
| 02:46.05 | Tekkub | if shift is down, don't clear |
| 02:46.06 | Xuerian | Why wouldn't you want to eat sheep? They taste good. Especially FROZEN sheep or DIZZY sheep.... |
| 02:46.17 | Thiana | kergoth: Thats what I changed. I needed to be able to break CCed targets when I was MA for raids. |
| 02:46.40 | Tekkub | seee Thiana, that's where I'd not load it on that toon |
| 02:47.20 | Thiana | Tekkub: I still wanted it because I wanted to preferentially pick non-CCed targets. So it warns me if a target is CCed, but doesnt clear the target. |
| 02:47.42 | Thiana | ie, if all the non-cc targets are dead I needed to keep that target and break it. |
| 02:48.12 | Tekkub | yea, the warn makes sense there... |
| 02:48.14 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 02:48.32 | Tekkub | I like kerg's idea of an override key though |
| 02:49.10 | Thiana | Tekkub: So thats the behaviour now with /shep ignorecc all. The Ctrl idea is good also, then we can leave it on clear target *most* of the time, but still be able to override when needed. |
| 02:49.20 | Thiana | and /shep ignorecc mine lets me target my classes CC type. |
| 02:49.27 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 02:49.42 | Tekkub | that's a neat idea too |
| 02:49.47 | Thiana | ignore is a misnomer really, I should pick a better keyword. |
| 02:49.49 | clad|sleep | the zip scripts are working again btw |
| 02:50.01 | Tekkub | you sure you don't wanna just adopt Shep? I have so much shit I can't keep up with it all |
| 02:50.12 | Tekkub | Thiana, blacklist own |
| 02:50.19 | Thiana | Tekkub: Sure :) I dont mind adopting it. |
| 02:51.00 | Thiana | Hmm, not sure blacklist works either. Just reverses the logic really. |
| 02:51.59 | Thiana | Well, I'll do it later. *wanders back to her book* |
| 02:53.53 | Tekkub | Thiana, whitelist own? |
| 02:55.09 | CIA-11 | 03evilelvis * r12783 10eeMon/ (core.lua display.lua localization.enUS.lua scan.lua): eeMon: added ability to display name and/or missing health inside the bar; small display changes to facilitate this |
| 02:55.21 | Tekkub | pokeeMon |
| 02:55.38 | Tekkub | eePeen |
| 02:55.54 | Tekkub | iiMon |
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| 02:59.36 | beerke | where can i read up on bigwigs TriggerEvents and SchedulEvents System ? |
| 02:59.39 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r12784 10Clique/Plugins/Plugins.xml: Clique: Removed plugins for AUF and AcePerl |
| 02:59.54 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceEvent-2.0 |
| 03:00.11 | beerke | yhanks |
| 03:00.16 | beerke | *thanks |
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| 03:05.04 | Tekkub | fucking cat |
| 03:05.11 | Tekkub | I almost stabbed my brain |
| 03:05.25 | Tekkub | was using a q-tip and he knocked something over and I jumped |
| 03:06.24 | mjc | kergoth: can you help me get a little more output so I can figure out which mod has a bad external? |
| 03:07.00 | Kebinusan | heh |
| 03:07.29 | mjc | I'm using his svkco.py script :p |
| 03:08.28 | kergoth | change line 88 to raise Exception("Unable to checkout %s, as %s is not yet mirrored." % (path, upstream)) |
| 03:08.40 | kergoth | so the path its trying to checkout is printed as well as the upstream it wanted |
| 03:08.50 | mjc | thanks, good idea |
| 03:10.07 | kergoth | surprised the script is as short and simple as it is. my python must be improving, just need to comment the damn thing and fix some bugs :P |
| 03:11.19 | kergoth | damn chronometer works great, think i'll disable hostelbar showing durations and use that instead, its more reliable |
| 03:11.21 | mjc | what kind of a lameass names himself "DrDre" |
| 03:11.34 | mjc | it's like it might have been interesting when there was no Dr. Dre |
| 03:11.35 | mjc | :P |
| 03:11.49 | kergoth | a script kiddie lameass, if that quit message is any clue |
| 03:12.15 | mjc | indeed |
| 03:14.16 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12785 10Chronometer/Data/Priest.lua: Chronometer: Add the Priest Transcendence set bonus renew - I have no way to test this personally... |
| 03:14.50 | Kebinusan | bleh |
| 03:16.11 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r12786 10FuBar_CorkFu/ (BuffTemplate.lua Core.lua FuBar_CorkFu.toc Libs/): FuBar_CorkFu - Now uses PaintChips for class colors, should fix any nil errors in BuffTemplate.lua |
| 03:16.43 | MentalPower | Some of Pastey.net's backend is going to be updated. Transition should be seamless, but you never know. |
| 03:16.53 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.05 | Kebinusan | ~whalestab Loatheb |
| 03:17.12 | purl | ACTION stabs Loatheb with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
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| 03:18.11 | Kebinusan | time to learn some more lua this week |
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| 03:19.29 | mjc | kergoth: //local |
| 03:19.32 | mjc | :/ |
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| 03:21.00 | mjc | hey tembutt |
| 03:21.10 | mjc | kergoth: I think it's dirname |
| 03:23.53 | mjc | nah, dirname isn't defined in that context |
| 03:25.26 | kergoth | is there something up with os.path.walk on bsd or something? |
| 03:25.27 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:25.35 | kergoth | or am i doing something that isnt portable? |
| 03:27.58 | mjc | kergoth: it's doing replace('svn.wowace.com','svn.wowace.com'_ atm, which should be fine. just thought I'd mention |
| 03:28.12 | kergoth | yea should be a noop |
| 03:28.26 | CIA-11 | 03turan * r12787 10SoloCast/ (. Core.lua SoloCast.toc): Self-cast when you're solo, in combat, and targeting a non-friendly. |
| 03:29.01 | kergoth | should add some debug prints in the path walk function cocb, watch it hit each dir and make sure thats correct |
| 03:29.16 | mjc | XP/Hour: 21565. blah :( |
| 03:30.22 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:30.40 | kergoth | Tekkub: wonder if itd make sense to change the default profile for s&d to character instead of global, since most of the time when you override the metadata's choices about when to load something, itll be character specific i'd think |
| 03:31.07 | mjc | kergoth: no, s&d has character specific loading options |
| 03:31.14 | mjc | oh |
| 03:31.15 | Tekkub | I think it's user choice with profiles |
| 03:31.18 | mjc | I see what oyu mean |
| 03:31.21 | Tekkub | I don't fuck with them |
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| 03:32.04 | kergoth | like if perfectraid loads in raid, but my rogue doesnt need it, i'd disable it, but just for him |
| 03:32.11 | kergoth | okey |
| 03:32.35 | beerke | If a sync event happens in BW and you want to trigger something on it after a certain period which implemetns a counter, is it best practice to use ScheduleEvent to call a custom event ? And does it call that event only once, and not for everyone that sends syncevent ? |
| 03:32.43 | beerke | sorry for the big question :P |
| 03:33.06 | mjc | kergoth: looks like it's going pretty far |
| 03:33.10 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r12788 10FuBar_CorkFu/Core.lua: FuBar_CorkFu - Cleaned up the menu a tad |
| 03:33.21 | mjc | XRS localizations |
| 03:34.09 | Tekkub | yes, schedule event |
| 03:34.21 | Tekkub | only once if you code it right |
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| 03:34.39 | beerke | i gave it the same ID so it should overwrite itself |
| 03:34.53 | beerke | if multiple syncs happen in short time span |
| 03:34.57 | Tekkub | you need to throttle the sync event to catch everyone's sync, then schedule your event |
| 03:35.35 | Tekkub | you can use either RegisterBucketEvent or use BW's throttle |
| 03:35.46 | Tekkub | you shouldn't be re-re-re-rescheduling |
| 03:35.49 | beerke | well i receive the sync, create a schedulevent on that with 10s delay which calls my custom event |
| 03:36.36 | mjc | kergoth: blah. I get tons of output, but nothing useful it seems |
| 03:37.49 | kergoth | :( hmm |
| 03:38.09 | mjc | oop |
| 03:38.15 | kergoth | can you get me ssh access to the box, and perms on your depot? |
| 03:38.16 | mjc | I didn't put my output far enoguh down in the function |
| 03:38.17 | mjc | trying again |
| 03:38.19 | kergoth | oop? that sounds ominous |
| 03:38.20 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:38.28 | mjc | sure hangon |
| 03:39.38 | Tekkub | oh just had a nice idea |
| 03:39.50 | Tekkub | once I get GreedBeacon Ace2'd... |
| 03:40.01 | beerke | Tekkub, i don't think i need the bucket as that would eb only needed if you receive a sync and want to call event immediately after it without spamming the event. ScheduleEvent which triggers after 10s should prevent it anyways |
| 03:40.01 | Tekkub | make it's tooltip only show current loot frames by default |
| 03:40.07 | Tekkub | and the roll counts associated |
| 03:40.12 | Tekkub | and hide when empty |
| 03:40.29 | Tekkub | that's easier than trying to overlay a text onto the roll frames |
| 03:40.40 | Tekkub | especially with those roll frame changing mods out there |
| 03:41.18 | Tekkub | beerke, if you do not use some sort of throttle mech you're going to be rescheduling that event |
| 03:41.26 | Tekkub | you SHOAULDN'T be rescheduling |
| 03:41.29 | Tekkub | it's a waste |
| 03:41.40 | haste | morning |
| 03:46.18 | eternally777 | Is there an Ace2 mod to show how much time is left on stuns? |
| 03:46.51 | kergoth | eternally777: hostelbar can, but its quirky, doesnt always pick em up. Chronometer is looking nice |
| 03:47.41 | CIA-11 | 03turan * r12789 10SoloCast/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua SoloCast.toc): |
| 03:47.47 | eternally777 | HostelBar is a general PvP cooldown tracker though, correct? |
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| 03:49.50 | haste | eternally777, the chrono add on might work? |
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| 03:50.15 | haste | s/chrono/chronometer/ |
| 03:50.41 | kergoth | eternally777: hostelbar, yeah, its all combatlog based, tracks your effects or otthers on them, and their casting and everything |
| 03:50.52 | kergoth | it does do stuns and stuff since thats your effects on the enemy, but its not reliable |
| 03:50.52 | Kebinusan | its not combatlog based yet |
| 03:50.57 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12790 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: CandyBar: When fading out, set the bar to it's 0 position in addition to setting the timer text to 0 |
| 03:51.01 | kergoth | ah, my mistake |
| 03:51.02 | Kebinusan | sole never switched to parserlib |
| 03:51.09 | kergoth | thats too bad |
| 03:51.11 | Kebinusan | probably when he gets back from vacation |
| 03:51.16 | kergoth | well at any rate, chronometer seems to kick ass |
| 03:51.21 | Kebinusan | yea |
| 03:51.25 | haste | I haven't had the chance to test it :( |
| 03:51.25 | Kebinusan | Im liking chronometer |
| 03:51.27 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12791 10Chronometer/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Chronometer: Add middle-click casting for immolate/conflag and rejuv/regrowth/swiftmend |
| 03:51.51 | haste | uhm... |
| 03:52.13 | haste | that commit made my slightly negative towards it |
| 03:52.33 | kergoth | casting? i'm confused |
| 03:53.02 | Tekkub | manbearpig... treebearbank *boggle* |
| 03:54.04 | haste | ah wait! |
| 03:54.08 | haste | I think I understand it now |
| 03:54.30 | haste | middle-click on the icon on the bar, to have it cast conflag on a immolated target |
| 03:55.14 | kergoth | why would you want to have click casting on timer bars? |
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| 03:55.33 | haste | conflag requires immolate tho' |
| 03:55.51 | Xuerian | Actually kindof handy |
| 03:56.08 | Xuerian | For swiftmend, from a druid pov, that is. So long as it removes ones already popped by someone else |
| 03:56.10 | haste | I understand why he did it like that, I also remember that it was planned for AceTimer |
| 03:56.35 | Tekkub | if they do not utter the line "OMG They killed Kenny! ... REZ!" I'm disowning SouthPark |
| 03:56.40 | kergoth | haste: ah, i see |
| 03:56.53 | kergoth | still, it makes me cringe adding things that seem at first outside its scope |
| 03:56.57 | kergoth | ah well |
| 03:57.42 | kergoth | Tekkub: hahah |
| 03:57.52 | haste | Yeah, It's not something I would hae used on my warlock at least |
| 03:58.02 | haste | at least it's a small feature |
| 03:58.30 | eternally777 | ~wowinsp |
| 03:58.33 | purl | OMG! They killed Kenny! ... REZ! |
| 04:00.47 | chrisa | weird, DeuceCommander listed all my mods, but after a reload now it only lists a few |
| 04:02.01 | eternally777 | wtf... I thought today was Oct. 2nd... |
| 04:02.12 | Tekkub | it is for another hour |
| 04:03.21 | eternally777 | No.. I mean.. |
| 04:03.39 | eternally777 | I'm on the east coast, and I thought that it was only the first and that it would be the second at midnight |
| 04:03.45 | eternally777 | but midnight came, and now it's the third |
| 04:03.49 | eternally777 | So I missed something. |
| 04:03.55 | Tekkub | yes, the 2nd |
| 04:04.12 | eternally777 | Yeah. |
| 04:04.17 | eternally777 | So... what did I miss? |
| 04:04.36 | Tekkub | The Art of Noise - The Sebuction of Claude Debussy >> all |
| 04:04.45 | Tekkub | s/seb/sed/ |
| 04:05.38 | eternally777 | How do I do the split-screen thing with irssi? |
| 04:06.45 | haste | eternally777, /help window |
| 04:07.55 | Kebinusan | So was anyone thinking of tinkering with healbotassist to add syncing and such |
| 04:08.25 | eternally777 | Kebinusan: That's how HealHub was intended to be. |
| 04:08.38 | Kebinusan | does it work? |
| 04:08.53 | eternally777 | hahaha |
| 04:08.54 | eternally777 | no |
| 04:08.59 | eternally777 | sorry |
| 04:09.08 | eternally777 | I abandoned it at least a month and a half ago |
| 04:09.34 | Tekkub | http://www.pvponline.com/article/2909/mon-oct-02 |
| 04:13.30 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12792 10Chronometer/Data/Priest.lua: Chronometer: Fix priest stuff |
| 04:15.25 | Xuerian | Hahaha |
| 04:15.36 | Xuerian | Seeing yourself, Cubby? :p |
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| 04:19.14 | Tekkub | no, my cat |
| 04:19.33 | Xuerian | Right :P |
| 04:20.15 | Tekkub | if I could lick myself like tat... |
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| 04:27.03 | CIA-11 | 03ruinna * r12793 10FuBar_OutfitterFu/ (6 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_OutfitterFu: initial commit |
| 04:29.47 | CIA-11 | 03mjc * r12794 10FuBar_DPS/: FuBar_DPS - externals |
| 04:32.14 | Kebinusan | eternally777, yeah apparently the La Vendetta mod does a sync'd healer list |
| 04:36.11 | mjc | kergoth: cheers! it worked. |
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| 04:37.55 | Tem | ~emulate clad |
| 04:37.58 | Talyn600m | you guys recommend Chronometer over CoolDownTimers? i just got CDT awhile ago |
| 04:38.03 | Tem | ~emulate cladhaire |
| 04:38.05 | purl | Good code is something to appreciate like a work of art. |
| 04:38.16 | Tem | ~emulate cladhaire |
| 04:38.17 | purl | Good code is something to appreciate like a work of art. |
| 04:38.41 | haste | Talyn600m, does Chronometer show cooldowns tho'? |
| 04:39.19 | kergoth | mjc: woot |
| 04:40.07 | mjc | hehe |
| 04:40.24 | Xuerian | ~emulate cladhaire |
| 04:40.26 | purl | I'm taking down the server again |
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| 04:40.55 | mjc | that said soemthing is fucking up my mods :P |
| 04:42.05 | Talyn600m | no idea, haven't tried Chronometer yet |
| 04:43.16 | mjc | kergoth: ace2 mods are borked. woot :( |
| 04:45.02 | mjc | "Attempt to call global AceLibrary"" |
| 04:45.27 | haste | Talyn600m, well, the author said it was a deuced version of AceTimer, so I guess it doesn't |
| 04:46.15 | Talyn600m | actually the whole point of AceTimer was to show cooldowns. i used to use it but it's only Ace1 |
| 04:46.24 | Talyn600m | and the screenshot for Chrono shows cooldowns |
| 04:46.27 | mjc | kergoth: it doesn't want to put any deps in my ! dirs |
| 04:46.44 | kergoth | ah, maybe its bugged on those |
| 04:46.56 | kergoth | !! is useless for us in linux anyway, load order isnt alphabetical |
| 04:46.57 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 04:47.01 | Talyn600m | i'll give it a shot, CDT is missing quite a few of the cooldowns on my two toon si tried it with |
| 04:47.07 | mjc | it's alphabetical on OSX |
| 04:47.23 | mjc | only !!!Libraries loaded before warmup |
| 04:47.30 | Tem | Load order is mostly alphabetical in windows |
| 04:51.06 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Perfect_Targets |
| 04:51.16 | Tekkub | added trac links into the infobox template :) |
| 04:53.13 | Tekkub | where's that bitch Thrae... we need SVNBot putting wiki pages up again |
| 04:54.34 | Talyn600m | haste: oooooh Chronometer looks way better than CDT... i'm keeping it :) |
| 04:55.21 | haste | If you want a cooldown add on, you can try oCD, but it's limited regarding actionbar add ons |
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| 04:56.08 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:56.24 | ckknight | how's everyone doing today? |
| 04:56.29 | Kebinusan | peachy |
| 04:57.18 | haste | I'm hoping I get my graphic card today :( |
| 04:57.37 | Xuerian | Heya ckknight :p |
| 05:01.35 | CIA-11 | 03ruinna * r12795 10FuBar_OutfitterFu/lib/: FuBar_OutfitterFu: added externals on lib dir |
| 05:05.10 | Talyn600m | nah oCD is older isn't it? chronometer is great so far, it's not missing a thing, looks awesome and it's Deuced too |
| 05:05.28 | kergoth | Chronometer isnt a cooldown addon |
| 05:05.37 | Talyn600m | it says it is |
| 05:05.43 | kergoth | it doesnt show cooldowns |
| 05:05.45 | kergoth | i'm using it right now |
| 05:05.47 | Talyn600m | and that's all it's doing is showing cooldowns |
| 05:05.49 | kergoth | it shows things like my stuns on the enemy |
| 05:05.51 | kergoth | and dots |
| 05:05.56 | kergoth | and my slice n dice |
| 05:06.07 | Talyn600m | it shows hibernate, soothe, etc. that's cooldowns |
| 05:06.12 | kergoth | uhh |
| 05:06.19 | kergoth | no, it isnt. |
| 05:06.31 | Talyn600m | i could care less about potions, etc. |
| 05:06.31 | chrisa | Does anyone have a flat (non-gradient) texture I can throw into oSkin? |
| 05:06.42 | kergoth | how long a hibernate will last is not a cooldown. |
| 05:07.18 | mjc | chrisa: http://www.scrapbookingsuppliesrus.com/images/638969-AquaTexture.jpg |
| 05:07.20 | mjc | :P |
| 05:07.33 | chrisa | o.O |
| 05:07.38 | mjc | google imagess = win. |
| 05:07.56 | chrisa | I was under the impression it needed a .tga with the levels set |
| 05:08.08 | mjc | probably does need a .tga |
| 05:08.12 | mjc | not that it's hard to convert it :) |
| 05:08.25 | eternally777 | OMFG... Everytime I try to call CastSpell(), I get an error from some other addon |
| 05:08.36 | eternally777 | Either SpellCache or SW_Stats |
| 05:09.19 | CIA-11 | 03evilelvis * r12796 10eeMon/ (core.lua display.lua eeMon.toc localization.enUS.lua): eeMon: Added test switch, to display dummy data |
| 05:09.28 | mjc | chrisa: wowtextures.com |
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| 05:36.51 | mjc | dfsaghjhkjglhkj;' |
| 05:37.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:37.50 | kergoth | problems? |
| 05:40.00 | mjc | it was still putting them in local instead of addons |
| 05:40.08 | mjc | no wonder I kept experiencing the same issues ;P |
| 05:40.21 | Mikma | morning |
| 05:40.24 | kergoth | ah, lol. probably a simple bug |
| 05:40.27 | kergoth | hey mikma |
| 05:40.48 | mjc | kergoth: well it's fine now that I know what the issue was |
| 05:41.03 | kergoth | hmm, i should enhance my addon set release script to be smarter about addons in the Libs/Library category |
| 05:41.23 | kergoth | it already excludes them from the release entirely if no addon uses them, but it should also look at the DefaultState of the addons that depend on it |
| 05:41.54 | mjc | 30kxp to go to41 :( |
| 05:42.13 | mjc | hope the servers don't go down before I pass out |
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| 05:42.41 | mjc | maint. day blows |
| 05:42.56 | Mikma | mjc: 4000rep to go to hostile against BLoodsail Buccaneers ;) |
| 05:43.06 | mjc | heh |
| 05:43.36 | kergoth | think i'll make battlechat and MSBT LoD, loaded by supplyanddemand when NotResting in my set |
| 05:43.37 | Mikma | my friend is already neutral against them... that bastard |
| 05:43.47 | kergoth | so logging in while in town wont load the combatish addons like those two |
| 05:43.51 | kergoth | till i go outside |
| 05:43.55 | Mikma | i switched back to SCL last night :P |
| 05:44.16 | mjc | kergoth: I'd rather load them in combat |
| 05:44.24 | mjc | like sidebar combat log |
| 05:44.29 | mjc | which is what I'm using |
| 05:44.39 | kergoth | the problem with that is the load lag |
| 05:44.48 | kergoth | i dont want lag from loading addons in a fight |
| 05:44.57 | kergoth | but i thougth about that too |
| 05:45.03 | mjc | target hostile ? |
| 05:47.01 | kergoth | hmm not a bad idea |
| 05:47.29 | kergoth | then itd be loaded if you target a hostile rogue in town |
| 05:47.30 | kergoth | or whatever |
| 05:47.35 | kergoth | but without the load lag in combat |
| 05:49.39 | kergoth | is there a decent addon to keep the minipet out nowadays? |
| 05:51.07 | Mikma | kergoth: CorkFu :) |
| 05:51.41 | dreyruugr | what's the point of LoD? |
| 05:51.49 | dreyruugr | being that you can't unload them |
| 05:51.59 | Mikma | dreyruugr: it get's loaded when you need it ;) |
| 05:52.09 | kergoth | yeah, no point wasting resources until i need it |
| 05:52.20 | kergoth | not to mention you can not load certain addons at all unless you're the class for it and such |
| 05:52.29 | kergoth | i have a bunch loading by class now |
| 05:52.45 | dreyruugr | still only seems marginally useful to me |
| 05:53.00 | dreyruugr | I don't understand why they don't add a way to unload them |
| 05:53.23 | dreyruugr | (aside from the fact that it's probably a lot of work for minimal gain) |
| 05:54.58 | kergoth | huge amount of work to track exactly what loading it does, and then itd still be impossible to know how to undo its further actions from its being run for all that time |
| 05:55.21 | PProvost | WinAceUpdater v1.1 has shipped. |
| 05:55.27 | kergoth | being able to load class specific addons for only that class is marginally useful? i have like 30 class specific addons in my set right now |
| 05:55.30 | PProvost | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WinAceUpdater |
| 05:55.48 | PProvost | http://sourceforge.net/projects/winaceupdater |
| 05:55.48 | kergoth | not having to enable/disable them for each of my chars is a huge benefit as far as i'm concerned |
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| 05:57.22 | Cairenn|sleep | night guys |
| 05:58.50 | kergoth | night cair |
| 06:05.17 | Mikma | hmm |
| 06:05.19 | Mikma | .3 XAD |
| 06:06.51 | Mikma | http://mikma.reaktio.net/sv/smallville2.jpg "hey babe" |
| 06:12.37 | Mikma | kergoth: http://wow.reaktio.net/legendary.jpg |
| 06:12.40 | Mikma | i like that one |
| 06:13.03 | Mikma | and i think it should be pasted to every forum-post which has text "posting a legendary thread" :D |
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| 06:17.31 | hiflyer | What would be a good addon to combine with my bartender2 to give me numeric cooldown counts on the buttons? |
| 06:17.51 | dreyruugr | OmniCC? |
| 06:18.03 | hiflyer | I'll have a look, thx |
| 06:18.39 | Neebler | total eclipse of the heart |
| 06:18.44 | oxman | hiflyer coolddowncount |
| 06:19.13 | CIA-11 | 03ruinna * r12798 10FuBar_OutfitterFu/ (OutfitterFu.lua README.txt): FuBar_OutfitterFu: set svn:keywords for a few files to pick up Date and Revision |
| 06:19.41 | kergoth | omnicc rocks |
| 06:19.44 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 06:20.15 | kergoth | there we are, GMail now doesnt load until i open my mailbox |
| 06:20.22 | kergoth | X-S&D-Mail :P |
| 06:20.59 | Mikma | geh kergoth commit them in :) |
| 06:21.06 | Mikma | LoD ain't bad when used correctly :D |
| 06:21.18 | Mikma | i'm about to update XAD in svn |
| 06:21.51 | kergoth | i'll add the -Mail to S&D in svn, but wont modify gmail, thats up to them |
| 06:22.13 | Arrowmaster | i dont understand the reason for some of these LoD changes.... theres some things that personally i would want loaded at the start and not later |
| 06:22.37 | Greywind | aye me too |
| 06:23.06 | Mikma | Arrowmaster: well some addons are useless to be loaded in memory for the whole time |
| 06:23.13 | Arrowmaster | like somebody mentioned a combatlog mod loading when leaving a city/inn, i would hate that idea |
| 06:23.20 | Mikma | gmail is one of them. you don't need it loaded if you don't open mailbox |
| 06:23.24 | kergoth | why? no point loading it when you arent fighting anything |
| 06:23.34 | kergoth | i like mjc's idea for it better though |
| 06:23.38 | kergoth | load when you target your first hostile |
| 06:23.42 | Mikma | aye |
| 06:23.48 | Arrowmaster | what about healing? |
| 06:23.53 | Arrowmaster | or other stuff |
| 06:24.07 | Mikma | kergoth: add "load when healing to other/you or damage to you" on that list |
| 06:24.20 | Arrowmaster | that list would get perty big |
| 06:24.39 | oxman | what about load ?! |
| 06:24.44 | oxman | lod |
| 06:24.52 | kergoth | could stick with notrested then, its pretty rare to fight inside an inn or major city |
| 06:24.58 | kergoth | lots of possibilities |
| 06:25.09 | Greywind | well one thing about adding it to s&d it looks like you can overide it and always load the addon it looks like |
| 06:25.15 | kergoth | regardless, as long as the addon chooses -some- s&d condition in their .toc, .. exactly |
| 06:25.20 | Greywind | but i cant test it atm |
| 06:25.24 | Greywind | not at my comp |
| 06:25.40 | kergoth | it works, i've messed with it |
| 06:25.55 | kergoth | disabled the loading of some addons that i normally have load when i'm in a party, for certain chars |
| 06:26.02 | kergoth | like the emergency monitor, no need for it on my rogue |
| 06:26.05 | kergoth | same with perfectraid |
| 06:26.19 | Arrowmaster | yeah i would hope, some things i agree work perfectly with LoD, others sure make them LoD but make them load at the start by default, let those that want to make them load at other times if they want |
| 06:26.25 | kergoth | thanks to ace2's profiles coupled with s&d, its a breeze |
| 06:26.36 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: yeah thats not a bad way to go, set to always by default for some |
| 06:26.42 | kergoth | but gives the flexibility |
| 06:26.45 | dreyruugr | s&d? |
| 06:26.49 | kergoth | SupplyAndDemand |
| 06:26.57 | Neebler | slice and dice |
| 06:26.58 | dreyruugr | what's that? |
| 06:27.03 | kergoth | its a loader for load on demand addons based on .certain conditions |
| 06:27.05 | kergoth | like in party, in raid, etc |
| 06:27.08 | dreyruugr | ahhh |
| 06:27.10 | kergoth | by class.. |
| 06:27.12 | kergoth | cool stuff |
| 06:27.13 | Greywind | sweet, imma switch my addons to use it then |
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| 06:28.18 | Arrowmaster | you mentioned MSBT earlyer, although i still use SCT i wouldnt like the idea of either of them loading any time other than the beginning since they can display stuff that may very well happen before you leave the city |
| 06:28.36 | Mikma | o-ouh... XAD .3 uses AL2.1 |
| 06:28.40 | Mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.06 | Arrowmaster | but the by class stuff looks to be one of the best uses for S&D |
| 06:29.10 | CIA-11 | 03kergoth * r12799 10SupplyAndDemand/Modules.lua: SupplyAndDemand: add X-S&D-Mail, as I modified my local GMail to use it. |
| 06:29.38 | Mikma | oh well |
| 06:29.40 | kergoth | now we just need zone, pvp, etc |
| 06:29.51 | Mikma | i guess i have to add the AL2.0 and AL2.1 in XAD :P |
| 06:29.56 | Mikma | since they are in the .zip |
| 06:30.03 | kergoth | is XAD usable? |
| 06:30.25 | Mikma | kergoth: i have no idea :D |
| 06:30.28 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:30.35 | Mikma | XAD .1 did pop up errors every now and then |
| 06:30.42 | dreyruugr | I kept getting some 'valp' error every time I tried |
| 06:30.43 | Mikma | i don't know what has happened to it after that |
| 06:30.48 | Mikma | dreyruugr: same, same... |
| 06:30.51 | Arrowmaster | kergoth, what woud X-S&D-PvP do exactly? |
| 06:31.02 | dreyruugr | but I think that was from PT not returning a value it was expecting |
| 06:31.08 | kergoth | good question, havent given it much thought. just seemed useful |
| 06:31.11 | dreyruugr | not sure which side the issue is on |
| 06:31.15 | kergoth | zone would be cool if it could identify bg's |
| 06:31.21 | kergoth | load avbars when you're in av or ab |
| 06:31.58 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: suppose you could load things like pvplog/deucelog only when you're flagged, on a pve server |
| 06:32.26 | Arrowmaster | true |
| 06:32.37 | kergoth | those logs can get pretty hefty if they've been tracking a lot of fights |
| 06:33.17 | Arrowmaster | a zone match would probably be best for battlegrounds and a pvp match for being flagged, dont think you could combine them much |
| 06:33.32 | kergoth | agreed |
| 06:33.54 | kergoth | lots of possibilities for this stuff, just dont want to go overboard either ;) |
| 06:34.12 | Arrowmaster | now wheres rophy, i want to bug him to add glorylib to SCL |
| 06:34.36 | Rophy | GloryLib? what does that do? |
| 06:34.44 | Arrowmaster | pvp |
| 06:35.21 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Glory-2.0#Glory_GainHK_-_.22rank.22.2C_.22name.22.2C_honor.2C_kills |
| 06:36.21 | Rophy | and how does SCL need that? |
| 06:36.24 | Arrowmaster | adjusted honor display for HKs please =) |
| 06:37.01 | Rophy | oh, diminishing return of honors? |
| 06:37.05 | Arrowmaster | yup |
| 06:37.35 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12800 10XAD/ (45 files in 4 dirs): XAD: updated svn version to .3 |
| 06:37.36 | Mikma | poing! |
| 06:37.44 | Rophy | why not just use HonorFu? |
| 06:37.46 | Mikma | kergoth: please can you test that one? :) |
| 06:37.51 | kergoth | what classes can cure with detox? |
| 06:37.51 | kergoth | sure |
| 06:38.13 | Arrowmaster | because HonorFu only fucking prints to ChatFrame1 and spams my chat window |
| 06:38.15 | Mikma | i'm at school so can't test em out :D |
| 06:39.11 | Rophy | instead of adding all possible features to SCL, IMO it's beter to modify the related mods to suit your needs. |
| 06:39.29 | Mikma | kergoth: and don't wonder about the AL2.0 & AL2.1 in there, he uses them both in that addon :D |
| 06:39.41 | Rophy | I believe you only need to change a few line of codes in HonorFu to have it report to another chat frame? |
| 06:39.54 | Arrowmaster | doubt that since it uses AceConsole |
| 06:40.07 | Rophy | I'm sure you can report to another chatframe with AceConsole :p |
| 06:40.49 | Mikma | well, atleast the checkout came out fine :) |
| 06:42.05 | Arrowmaster | ah yeah i guess so, didnt notice the :CustomPrint() before |
| 06:43.13 | Rophy | so hopefully modifying HonorFu is easier :p |
| 06:44.21 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2309.msg48298#msg48298 :) |
| 06:44.59 | Arrowmaster | hmm looks like all i would have to do is set self.printFrame in HonorFu and it would do it |
| 06:45.26 | Rophy | think so |
| 06:46.00 | Arrowmaster | well im looking at aceconsole and it seems :Print() actually calls :CustomPrint() |
| 06:46.13 | Mikma | Rophy: yo, you should add directions -option in SCL :) like <- 50 (means 50 damage to you) and 50 -> (means 50 damage to target) |
| 06:46.26 | Mikma | would be fun to have :) |
| 06:46.58 | Rophy | the formats were like that, but the -> looks so ugly :\ |
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| 06:47.20 | Mikma | yeah they do but they are propably the best one's available :P |
| 06:47.31 | Mikma | unles you do it To: 50 and From: 50 |
| 06:47.32 | Mikma | haha |
| 06:48.08 | Rophy | You can customize the format anyway :p |
| 06:48.12 | Arrowmaster | i still think SCL with diminishing return of honor would be better though and look nicer ;) |
| 06:48.54 | Mikma | i realized yesterday that i might get a better combatlog if i use 3 chatwindows instead of BattleChat |
| 06:49.01 | Mikma | From: To: Heal: |
| 06:49.02 | oxman | ? :) |
| 06:49.23 | oxman | you can do that with SCL |
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| 06:49.57 | Rophy | Arrowmaster: I try to avoid adding a whole library only for "one" message, I already feel SCL is so bloated in its current form. |
| 06:50.20 | Rophy | especially when there is another mod which you use and does that job already. (HonorFu) |
| 06:53.01 | Arrowmaster | but honorfu uses glorylib too, it would only be possible bloat for those that dont already use a mod that has glorylib |
| 06:54.11 | Mikma | gloryhole |
| 06:54.20 | Arrowmaster | make it use it if you already have glorylib, not if you dont? |
| 06:54.20 | Rophy | but by SCL's definition it has nothing to do with honor, SCL is a mod to replace the default combat logs, not a mod to replace all mods which print messages to chatframes. |
| 06:55.12 | Rophy | some people asked me to add timestamp too and I ask them to install idChat, by the same reason. |
| 06:56.21 | Mikma | Rophy: i hear your pain :) |
| 06:56.43 | Mikma | people keep asking me to include cooldown count and rangecoloring into BT2 |
| 06:56.52 | Mikma | i tell them to install omniCC and RedRange |
| 06:57.29 | Greywind | and thats why i love Ace mods, most of em are so modular you can replace features with other addons |
| 06:57.49 | Greywind | mix and match makes Greywind happy :P |
| 06:57.56 | Arrowmaster | only reason i asked was because i felt the honor messages were combat log output and having full control of that message by using SCL would be better than a normally uncustomizable message from HonorFu that was a poor replacement for the functionality from Honor+ in the first place |
| 06:58.48 | Mikma | Arrowmaster: you know you CAN enable the honors to scl-chat... just use the blizzards menu |
| 06:59.16 | Arrowmaster | but its not the adjusted honor |
| 06:59.40 | Rophy | I know what you think, but I have the opposite opinion. HonorFu is a mod about honors, SCL is a mod about replacing default combat logs. People might or might not want to see diminishing honor, they might or might not want to see shortened combat logs, that's 2 different subjects and should be in 2 different mods. |
| 07:00.21 | Mikma | Arrowmaster: DYI like Industrial always says. make a BloatedCombatLog |
| 07:00.33 | Arrowmaster | ok so i should bitch at the HonorFu author to make the honor display better display |
| 07:00.56 | Rophy | Yes, go bug honorFu author :p |
| 07:00.59 | Arrowmaster | every message being prefixed with FuBar - HonorFu: is annoying |
| 07:01.24 | Arrowmaster | but thats a limitation of AceConsole i think |
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| 07:02.24 | Rophy | you can change it to ChatFrame2:AddMessage |
| 07:02.31 | Rophy | won't kill anyone. |
| 07:03.00 | Arrowmaster | but its not AddMessage |
| 07:03.12 | Rophy | why not? |
| 07:03.15 | kergoth | its pretty common for people to modify other peoples addons to their liking for their own use, just do so |
| 07:03.19 | Arrowmaster | its using self:Print(L"Kill: %s %s. %d honor gained. Killed %d times today", rank, name, honor, kills) |
| 07:03.23 | kergoth | i've lost track of the number of local changes i have across the board |
| 07:04.22 | Rophy | Change self:Print() to ChatFrame2:AddMessage(string.format()) |
| 07:04.31 | Arrowmaster | yeah ive done that a few times kergoth but im finding they get all messed up after svn updates |
| 07:04.50 | kergoth | shouldnt be. occasionally theres a merge problem, but its easily fixed in most cases |
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| 07:05.27 | Arrowmaster | every time i do it the files end up with stuff like <<<<<<<<< and >>>>>>>>> around my changes which mess up the parsing |
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| 07:06.38 | ckknight_ | Arrowmaster, instead, self.printFrame = ChatFrame2 |
| 07:06.50 | kergoth | yes, that requires you to do a manual merge. read up on conflicts in the svn book |
| 07:07.31 | Rophy | ckknight_: he doesn't want the "Addon - " string at the beginning of the message. |
| 07:07.39 | ckknight_ | oh |
| 07:07.42 | ckknight_ | um |
| 07:07.54 | ckknight_ | yea, do Rophy's way, then |
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| 07:10.28 | Wobin | Hey ArrowMaster, did you figure out how to get the cool guildnames? |
| 07:10.28 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 07:10.33 | Wobin | alas |
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| 07:20.01 | ckknight_ | hrm |
| 07:20.07 | ckknight_ | I just watched Click |
| 07:20.15 | Mikma | and? |
| 07:20.21 | ckknight_ | good movie, despite cheesy |
| 07:20.36 | Mikma | my friend told me that Kate is hot. is he right? |
| 07:21.15 | ckknight_ | quite. |
| 07:21.30 | CIA-11 | 03kergoth * r12801 10BanzaiAlert/ (BanzaiAlert.lua BanzaiAlert.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 07:21.30 | CIA-11 | BanzaiAlert: |
| 07:21.30 | CIA-11 | * Remove the OptionalDeps on sct, msbt, and bigwigs, as it doesn't need those |
| 07:21.30 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:21.30 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:21.31 | CIA-11 | * Remove the OptionalDeps on oRA2, adjusting the code to watch for an |
| 07:21.33 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:21.52 | kergoth | there, banzaialert doesnt force bigwigs and ora2 to load on login anymore :P |
| 07:22.04 | oxman | banzai ? |
| 07:22.12 | kergoth | its an aggro alert addon |
| 07:22.15 | kergoth | an excellent one |
| 07:22.17 | Gngsk | how do you keep bw and ora2 from loading on login? |
| 07:22.28 | Mikma | Gngsk: disable them |
| 07:22.32 | kergoth | i made them load on demand, and made them load when in a raid with supplyanddemand |
| 07:22.47 | Gngsk | I want that! |
| 07:22.55 | Mikma | me three, gotta download em at home |
| 07:23.20 | kergoth | its easy to set up, just add LoadOnDemand: 1 to its .toc, add X-S&D-InRaid: true, and add SupplyAndDemand as an optionaldeps |
| 07:23.35 | Mikma | yada yada upload to branches! |
| 07:24.12 | Mikma | kergoth: dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/kergoth/addon1 /addon2 /addon3 .. :D |
| 07:24.28 | kergoth | pfft, branching to modify one file? |
| 07:24.29 | kergoth | :P |
| 07:24.59 | Mikma | aye :D |
| 07:25.09 | Mikma | make a kergothlection |
| 07:26.33 | Mikma | kergoth: why not just upload all the changes in svn? |
| 07:26.44 | Mikma | let other people enjoy the modifications too hehe |
| 07:26.48 | kergoth | i'm not going to make someone elses addon LoadOnDemand |
| 07:26.58 | kergoth | then their users get to whine at me about it not working without s&d |
| 07:26.59 | kergoth | screw that |
| 07:27.10 | kergoth | :P |
| 07:27.40 | Mikma | S&D-embed! |
| 07:28.12 | kergoth | yes! load the LoD addon loader inside of an LoD addon! brilliant! |
| 07:28.15 | kergoth | :D |
| 07:28.31 | Mikma | ofc! |
| 07:28.39 | kergoth | i love those commercials |
| 07:28.42 | kergoth | Brilliant! |
| 07:28.58 | Gngsk | does it matter where I add those lines in the toc file? |
| 07:30.48 | Mikma | like i said he should make a mod-collection which he has modified and updates ;) |
| 07:31.02 | Mikma | then we can all enjoy his work easily hehe |
| 07:31.15 | Gngsk | nvm, I see where to put LoD |
| 07:31.54 | kergoth | Mikma: i do maintain an addon set, a rather extensive one, which i distribute by category (defined in the .toc's), just havent released it in a while. the svn for it is publically accessible though |
| 07:31.56 | kergoth | well, when the server is up |
| 07:31.59 | kergoth | its acting up lately |
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| 07:35.00 | Gngsk | hmm |
| 07:35.17 | Gngsk | I added the stuff you said to, and I'm pretty sure I got the latest version of banzai, but ora and bw are still enabled on login |
| 07:35.48 | kergoth | check for other non-LoD addons that depennd or optionally depend on bigwigs or ora2 |
| 07:35.53 | kergoth | cause thatll force them to load |
| 07:37.28 | Gngsk | hmm, I don't have to configure anything through S&D? |
| 07:38.10 | kergoth | no, the X-S&D-InRaid means it defaults to loading in raid only |
| 07:38.17 | Gngsk | ok |
| 07:38.18 | kergoth | you can override that in s&d's configuration, but default will be in raid |
| 07:41.25 | Gngsk | hmmm |
| 07:41.51 | Gngsk | doing /ace list enabled doesn't show [LoD] next to oRA2 or BigWigs |
| 07:42.22 | kergoth | pastebin your modified .toc |
| 07:42.28 | kergoth | s/pastebin/pastey/ |
| 07:42.29 | Gngsk | k |
| 07:42.33 | Gngsk | yah, one sec |
| 07:43.51 | Gngsk | http://ace.pastey.net/1275 |
| 07:43.59 | Gngsk | that's oRA2, just the bits that matter |
| 07:44.25 | kergoth | you didnt add LoadOnDemand: 1 |
| 07:44.27 | kergoth | so it isnt lod |
| 07:44.45 | Gngsk | 2nd line |
| 07:44.54 | kergoth | oh, i'm blind |
| 07:44.55 | Gngsk | right under Interface: 11200 |
| 07:45.04 | kergoth | looks fine then, something must be forcing it to load |
| 07:45.13 | kergoth | hmm |
| 07:45.39 | Mikma | Gngsk: upadte your banzaialert :D |
| 07:45.45 | Gngsk | I did |
| 07:45.59 | Gngsk | 12801, the version kergoth just commited |
| 07:46.22 | [Ammo] | ok wtf is bhattu and why is he fucking with candybar |
| 07:46.23 | [Ammo] | grrrr |
| 07:47.04 | Mikma | [Ammo]: he's the author of Chronometer (AceTimer Ace2) |
| 07:47.09 | [Ammo] | I don't give a rats ass |
| 07:47.12 | [Ammo] | he's messing with it |
| 07:47.25 | ckknight | in a bad way? |
| 07:47.25 | [Ammo] | without even a simple question 'can I adjust it?' |
| 07:47.31 | Mikma | [Ammo]: yeah he did change something |
| 07:47.36 | [Ammo] | he's changing behaviour |
| 07:47.40 | [Ammo] | default behaviour |
| 07:47.43 | [Ammo] | so I'm reverting his changes |
| 07:47.53 | Mikma | <CIA-11> bhattu * r12790 CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: CandyBar: When fading out, set the bar to it's 0 position in addition to setting the timer text to 0 |
| 07:48.14 | ckknight | is that a bad change? |
| 07:48.16 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 07:48.22 | ckknight | fair enough |
| 07:48.25 | [Ammo] | because he didn't take the timer function in account |
| 07:48.32 | [Ammo] | that you can optionally set |
| 07:48.58 | ckknight | cause I've changed other people's mods without asking, I wouldn't add features or change functionality, though, just bugfixes, really |
| 07:49.00 | Mikma | i think the revert-message will be pretty angry ;) [Ammo] will bite his had off |
| 07:49.09 | Gngsk | ok, ImprovedRWF has BigWigs as an OpDep |
| 07:49.24 | Gngsk | and BigWigs has oRA2 as an OpDep, so that'd make them load? |
| 07:49.26 | Neebler | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2437.0 |
| 07:49.26 | Mikma | Gngsk: umh, why? :P |
| 07:49.39 | [Ammo] | GNgsk? boggle |
| 07:49.42 | Mikma | why does it have BigWigs as optdep |
| 07:49.52 | Gngsk | oh, nvm oRA2 doesn't have BW as an optdep |
| 07:49.56 | Gngsk | sorry |
| 07:50.21 | ckknight | Neebler, FuBar plugins are already simplistic. |
| 07:50.37 | ckknight | they're as simple or as complex as you want. |
| 07:50.58 | Mikma | ckknight: i think he want's to have an plugin where he can select a icon and put a macro in fubar or so |
| 07:50.59 | Neebler | I know but for the average joe who doesnt know how to code |
| 07:51.10 | ckknight | oh |
| 07:51.12 | Neebler | who just wants a simple link |
| 07:51.24 | Mikma | FuBar_MacroFu |
| 07:51.30 | Neebler | like fubar_nametogglefu |
| 07:51.33 | Mikma | (does not exist heh) |
| 07:51.55 | Neebler | no the request isn't for another plugin, but for a feature in fubar |
| 07:52.23 | Mikma | Neebler: well that is a perfect job for a plugin imho |
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| 07:52.54 | ckknight | I am not putting it into FuBar. |
| 07:52.56 | Neebler | well whatever works :P |
| 07:53.02 | ckknight | it sounds like a job for a plugin. |
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| 07:53.33 | ckknight | I want FuBar to be as simple as possible, but no simpler |
| 07:54.04 | Neebler | and on the fourth day: god said "let their be light" |
| 07:54.07 | Mikma | Neebler: btw, there already is an minimap-addon where you can insert slashcommands and macros as icons |
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| 07:54.27 | Neebler | gah I hate minimap icons tho. thats why I use fubar |
| 07:55.27 | Neebler | but thanks for the info |
| 07:56.01 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r12802 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: |
| 07:56.01 | CIA-11 | CandyBar: |
| 07:56.01 | CIA-11 | * Bhattu: please don't change default behaviour again |
| 07:56.01 | CIA-11 | * thanks for the fading bugfix though. |
| 07:56.59 | Mikma | ok that was much nicer than i expected |
| 07:57.11 | [Ammo] | he did do a bugfix |
| 07:57.17 | [Ammo] | but he shouldn't touch default behaviour |
| 07:59.02 | Mikma | ~poke [Ammo] |
| 07:59.07 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind [Ammo], pokes [Ammo] repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 07:59.20 | deci | ~whalehug Mikma |
| 07:59.22 | purl | ACTION Persuades a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh to hug Mikma |
| 07:59.34 | Mikma | hae |
| 07:59.45 | Mikma | ok, what does "hilarity ensues" mean? |
| 07:59.58 | deci | we all start laughing! |
| 08:00.06 | ckknight | hilarity - the act of hilariousness |
| 08:00.13 | ckknight | ensues - happens |
| 08:00.23 | Mikma | ckknight: thanks babe |
| 08:00.55 | ckknight | http://www.pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF196-Cover_Blown.jpg#186 |
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| 08:01.25 | Mikma | haha |
| 08:02.18 | CIA-11 | 03kergoth * r12803 10MSBTLoot/MSBTLoot.toc: MSBTLoot: Make it LoD and LoadWith MikScrollingBattleText, on the off chance MSBT goes LoD, either upstream or in my addon set. Won't change normal behavior. |
| 08:02.54 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r12804 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: now sent the author who's afk / dnd status was updated |
| 08:08.23 | Mikma | KaeltenAway: Wiki links are pointing to incorrect location at the forums... (the topframe of the webpage when browsing which contains preferences etc when logged in) |
| 08:08.39 | kergoth | heh, toadkiller's gonna use PT for his autobar version eventually |
| 08:08.40 | kergoth | cool |
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| 08:11.07 | Mikma | !toc Prat |
| 08:11.10 | SVNBot | ERROR: Cannot find ./svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Prat! Maybe you need to use !trunk first? |
| 08:11.22 | Mikma | Thrae: fix that plzplzplzxxpxzx |
| 08:15.26 | Mikma | hey umm, how do i enter toc info in wikipages? |
| 08:15.50 | ckknight | !trunk Prat |
| 08:16.09 | SVNBot | The latest revision of Prat is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/Prat/. The TOC Wiki data has been updated. |
| 08:16.13 | ckknight | !toc Prat |
| 08:16.15 | Mikma | error! |
| 08:16.16 | SVNBot | ERROR: Cannot find ./svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Prat! Maybe you need to use !trunk first? |
| 08:16.23 | ckknight | hrm |
| 08:16.27 | Mikma | thrae needs to fix the correct address |
| 08:16.44 | Mikma | svn.wowace.com/root/trunk -> svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk |
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| 08:19.43 | Mikma | lol copypaste the toc was a BAAAAAAD idea |
| 08:19.54 | Mikma | thank god i did manage to delete the info out.. |
| 08:20.04 | Mikma | but it still DID copy some info in |
| 08:20.17 | Gngsk | oh neat |
| 08:20.21 | Gngsk | I'm getting some errors |
| 08:20.26 | Gngsk | wish I would've noticed that a while ago |
| 08:25.22 | CIA-11 | 03kergoth * r12805 10MSBTLoot/ (MSBTLoot.toc core.lua): MSBTLoot: 1) OptionalDeps on MikScrollingBattleTExt as well as LoadWith it, so both get loaded regardless of load order, 2) Only initialize when msbtloot's addon_loaded is fired. |
| 08:26.19 | Gngsk | yea, I'm getting errors with S&D, complains about not being able to find a library instance of Tablet-2.0 |
| 08:26.51 | vhaarr | fix the externals then |
| 08:26.56 | vhaarr | tekkub can't be arsed |
| 08:28.06 | Mikma | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-1850-1-mobinfo2-includes-mobhealth.html |
| 08:28.10 | Mikma | lol |
| 08:28.13 | Mikma | MobInfo-2 v3.01 |
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| 08:41.28 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r12806 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc Core.lua Extras/ Extras/Tranq.lua Tranq.lua): |
| 08:41.28 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: |
| 08:41.28 | CIA-11 | * External BigWigs Modules now appear in the Extras menu. |
| 08:41.28 | CIA-11 | * Tranq moved to that menu as well. |
| 08:42.44 | cryogen | mmm, so many revisions, im gonna need a tool to keep me up to date soon |
| 08:43.20 | CIA-11 | 03moonsorrow * r12807 10XRS/ (XRS.toc localizations/frFR.lua): |
| 08:43.20 | CIA-11 | XRS: |
| 08:43.20 | CIA-11 | - added frFR locale (thx to alakhnor) |
| 08:44.35 | ckknight | Mikma, just like Java! Java 2 1.5/5.0 |
| 08:45.13 | Mikma | haha, yeah true. can't understand that versioning at all |
| 08:45.38 | Mikma | "- extensive rewrite of event handler code to improve event performance " |
| 08:45.46 | oxman | :) |
| 08:45.47 | Mikma | why not use MobHealth3, assclowns |
| 08:45.59 | cryogen | mobhealth3 wins the internet |
| 08:46.17 | cryogen | but i guess some people want the "info" from mobinfo2 |
| 08:46.20 | Mikma | ckknight: you should force people to use slogan "Ace2 - We care about performace" |
| 08:46.29 | Mikma | +n in perforkace |
| 08:46.33 | Mikma | DASDawd<<2 |
| 08:46.52 | deci | perforkace, i like it! |
| 08:47.00 | cryogen | performace is better |
| 08:47.07 | oxman | Ah ah i like the slogan Mikma ^^ |
| 08:47.16 | oxman | and why not use a label for performance ? :) |
| 08:47.22 | Mikma | lol, that's actually quite funny |
| 08:47.24 | oxman | we evaluate the performance of an addon |
| 08:47.26 | ckknight | I like the slogan |
| 08:47.26 | Mikma | PerformAce2 |
| 08:47.27 | oxman | and give it a label |
| 08:47.38 | ckknight | Efficiency is our number one priority |
| 08:47.45 | ckknight | we're even more efficient than Nazis. |
| 08:47.53 | oxman | :p |
| 08:48.00 | Mikma | i have full on raid-ui with 21MB .. i call that caring |
| 08:48.08 | Greywind | aye i love it |
| 08:48.08 | deci | so Ace2 is the blond hair, blue eyed people of WoW!? |
| 08:48.12 | oxman | 24MB me :) |
| 08:48.14 | Greywind | >.< |
| 08:48.18 | deci | haha |
| 08:48.18 | oxman | sometimes lesser, 20MB too |
| 08:48.36 | Mikma | yeah out of raid hardly ever goes over 20 |
| 08:48.50 | Mikma | but now i'm testing some addons so i got 23MB :( |
| 08:48.55 | deci | im at 22mb in raid with around 10ish increasing rate |
| 08:49.22 | Gngsk | okay |
| 08:49.30 | Mikma | Next up: |
| 08:49.31 | Mikma | -- Ace 2, or at least PeriodTable |
| 08:49.33 | Mikma | gooo AutoBar |
| 08:49.34 | Gngsk | I got the whole LoD BW/oRA2 thing working on my lvl 6 priest |
| 08:49.40 | Gngsk | now to figure it out for my rogue >< |
| 08:49.41 | Mikma | but.. GOOOOO XAD! |
| 08:49.41 | kergoth | Gngsk: yay |
| 08:49.54 | Mikma | btw i committed the XAD .3 today in svn *wink* *wink* |
| 08:49.54 | cryogen | XAD is nice |
| 08:49.54 | cryogen | but |
| 08:49.57 | Mikma | go checkout! |
| 08:50.02 | cryogen | the graphical errors are kinda annoying |
| 08:50.07 | cryogen | i use the term errors loosely |
| 08:50.20 | Mikma | cryogen: error loosely |
| 08:50.35 | cryogen | also not being able to move bar easily is a bit annoying :) |
| 08:50.37 | Gngsk | if I pastey the toc I made for S&D could someone commit and set externals? |
| 08:50.44 | krka | i thought the main goal was OO |
| 08:50.46 | Mikma | AutoBar is still quite heavy on mem compared to what it does.. (imo) |
| 08:51.16 | ckknight | krka, not really. |
| 08:51.19 | cryogen | i installed xad for the first time yesterday, i dont think i'll ever go back to autobar :) |
| 08:51.29 | ckknight | I don't consider Ace's OO to be more important than its performance |
| 08:51.38 | ckknight | OO is merely a design structure to make coding easier |
| 08:51.41 | Mikma | cryogen: did you get the .3 version? |
| 08:51.55 | cryogen | mmm |
| 08:52.03 | cryogen | probably not, i got it early last night |
| 08:52.16 | krka | do you have any coding guidelines written anywhere on how to achieve good performance? |
| 08:52.18 | Laricwork | is there any writeup on optimal loading order for the ace librarys and mixins? Like I read somewhere that AceOO uses compost if available etc |
| 08:52.20 | cryogen | Version: .1 |
| 08:52.22 | cryogen | :p |
| 08:52.26 | kergoth | krka: i'd say that the main goal of ace2 was OO and modularity, but that the goal of ace/ace2 overall has always been performance and efficiency |
| 08:52.34 | krka | like, don't perform stuff on events. don't create tables unnecessarily, et.c. |
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| 08:52.49 | cryogen | the goals of performance and efficiency, and OO, are not exclusive :) |
| 08:53.00 | Mikma | ckknight: i found an avatar for you: http://romirez.zidev.com/emo.gif |
| 08:53.10 | ckknight | cryogen, I'd consider them Orthogonal |
| 08:53.22 | krka | i consider them completely unrelated :) |
| 08:53.27 | Greywind | lol @ mikma |
| 08:53.37 | ckknight | lol, Mikma |
| 08:53.37 | cryogen | Mikma: r12800? |
| 08:53.43 | Mikma | cryogen: yeap :) |
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| 08:55.25 | cryogen | Mikma: got it, will try it tonight :) |
| 08:55.26 | cryogen | much changes? |
| 08:55.50 | Gngsk | mhmmm |
| 08:56.05 | Gngsk | once I enable banzaialert on my lvl6 priest it makes oRA and BW load on login |
| 08:56.06 | Mikma | cryogen: yes, ALOT of changes according to forums |
| 08:56.25 | Mikma | bye cryogen, hi Galencia |
| 08:56.30 | Galencia | :) |
| 08:56.46 | Galencia | bless this multi server irc client |
| 08:57.49 | Mikma | Irssi 0.8.10 (20051211) - http://irssi.org/ |
| 08:57.55 | Mikma | hmm i need to change that |
| 08:58.07 | Galencia | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:58.10 | Galencia | oh gnoes, im old |
| 08:58.27 | Mikma | Irssi 0.8.10 (20051211) - http://irssi.org/ <3 |
| 08:58.30 | Mikma | there, much better :D |
| 08:58.37 | Galencia | thats actually kinda funny, theres 2 years between one release |
| 08:59.17 | Mikma | Galencia: yeah cras quit developing and others kept going after they realized there won't be an update coming |
| 08:59.34 | AxiumKT | irssi is nice |
| 08:59.39 | Galencia | yeah, i know |
| 08:59.40 | AxiumKT | i like colloquy a lot <3 |
| 08:59.45 | Galencia | i know a few of the current developers |
| 08:59.49 | Mikma | sorry all about this! |
| 08:59.51 | Mikma | The Turtles: 0,7:0,3) Michaelangelo, 0,12:0,3) Leonardo, 0,13:0,3) Donatello, 0,4:0,3) Rafaello |
| 09:00.30 | AxiumKT | i made an irssi theme for colloquy and that's what i use |
| 09:00.31 | Wobin | snort |
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| 09:00.45 | krka | rafaello? isn't it just rafael? |
| 09:00.50 | Wobin | aye it is |
| 09:00.50 | AxiumKT | yup |
| 09:01.04 | Mikma | depends on the language i think |
| 09:01.05 | Wobin | raphael |
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| 09:01.17 | ckknight | ? |
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| 09:01.20 | Mikma | noooooes! |
| 09:01.25 | ckknight | what was that for, kergoth? |
| 09:01.30 | kergoth | color, above |
| 09:01.31 | Mikma | i was almost the longest visitor |
| 09:01.32 | Wobin | kergoth is hoarding the cookies |
| 09:01.53 | AxiumKT | pwnt |
| 09:02.05 | Mikma | yeah that's why i said sorry before so i didn't feel bad about it ;D |
| 09:02.15 | Mikma | anyways |
| 09:02.26 | krka | all good clients strip colors |
| 09:02.33 | Mikma | that turtles was a "copypaste" from some.. irclog or screenshot |
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| 09:03.39 | Mikma | hmm i wanna do a EmoBar |
| 09:03.56 | Mikma | when you get a crit it will pop up messages about being cut |
| 09:04.06 | Mikma | "awww, you cut yourself, emo" |
| 09:04.45 | kergoth | pfft, the warlocks are the ones that cut themselves with that lifetap and all |
| 09:04.46 | kergoth | :P |
| 09:04.51 | Mikma | hehe |
| 09:05.01 | Mikma | lifetap and critmelee |
| 09:05.04 | Galencia | surely it should be like "oh how awful is this world where i get beaten so" or something |
| 09:05.25 | Mikma | and add a soundeffect.. "OUCH!" everytime you lifetap |
| 09:05.41 | Wobin | emotap |
| 09:05.52 | Mikma | that's even better |
| 09:06.02 | Wobin | that's what we call it =P |
| 09:06.18 | Mikma | and change the tooltip text to "changes priest mana into warlock mana. also cuts yourself" |
| 09:06.19 | Greywind | lol thats what its called in my guild :P |
| 09:06.21 | Wobin | We chant it to our 'lock when he facetanks the panther boss |
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| 09:06.46 | Galencia | what about emo fire? |
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| 09:08.43 | Greywind | has corkfu been deuced yet, i havent used it in awhile hehe and im sort of starting to miss it |
| 09:08.51 | Gngsk | yes, it has |
| 09:08.58 | Gngsk | rejoice and come back in to the light |
| 09:09.04 | Greywind | yay! |
| 09:09.11 | Gngsk | I reinstalled it today actually, made me quite happy indeed! |
| 09:10.40 | Galencia | lol |
| 09:10.41 | Wobin | hm |
| 09:10.43 | Galencia | xad ftw |
| 09:10.47 | Galencia | it has a "quite" command |
| 09:10.50 | Wobin | Should HeyFu automatically archive? |
| 09:11.01 | Mikma | Galencia: i didn't realize whatit is. explain? |
| 09:11.01 | Wobin | CAuse it kinda defeats the purpose of making the archive a lod |
| 09:11.09 | Wobin | if it loads all the time to save the backlog |
| 09:11.14 | Galencia | Mikma: i think its supposed to be "quiet" :)) |
| 09:11.16 | Gngsk | mmmm, supply and demand owns |
| 09:11.33 | Mikma | Galencia: well i'm not sure about that one |
| 09:11.45 | Mikma | he has repeatedly written quite all over code |
| 09:11.49 | Mikma | oh well i'll have a look |
| 09:11.53 | Galencia | "Stops XAD from telling you what item it's useing when you click on a button to use something." |
| 09:11.56 | Galencia | sounds like quiet to me :p |
| 09:12.25 | Mikma | heh |
| 09:12.25 | Gngsk | omg kergoth, you saved me like 10m of memory usage while not in raid :D |
| 09:12.30 | Mikma | wha? |
| 09:12.39 | oxman | really ? |
| 09:12.42 | Mikma | gotta do the same when i get home |
| 09:12.44 | oxman | you must have ctraid for raid |
| 09:12.45 | oxman | xD |
| 09:12.48 | Gngsk | neg |
| 09:13.03 | Gngsk | ora2, bigwigs and improvedRWF are the only 3 mods I have setup with it atm |
| 09:13.11 | Gngsk | more like 7.5, but still |
| 09:13.23 | Gngsk | from 24.5 to 16 |
| 09:13.26 | Mikma | Gngsk: only lod & S&D lines + S&D ? |
| 09:13.30 | oxman | yep i will disable bigwigs and ora2, i don't raid, i've not guild :') |
| 09:13.40 | Greywind | can i edit the tocs and still update without deleting my changes? |
| 09:13.48 | Greywind | using svn that is |
| 09:13.54 | Gngsk | no idea |
| 09:14.08 | Mikma | ["QuiteDes"] = "Silence XDA2 when using items.", |
| 09:14.08 | Gngsk | but I'm hoping this LoD and S&D stuff will eventually become standard among the ace community |
| 09:14.09 | Mikma | yeah |
| 09:14.22 | Mikma | i don't wan't to say it to him :P |
| 09:14.43 | Mikma | XDA2 ..? ;) |
| 09:14.53 | Galencia | hahah |
| 09:14.55 | Galencia | typos ftw :p |
| 09:15.11 | Galencia | are you responsible for xad now or something? |
| 09:15.21 | Mikma | no i just like to import it to svn |
| 09:15.31 | Galencia | mmm k |
| 09:15.40 | Galencia | i might hack it a bit :) |
| 09:15.45 | Mikma | i DID fix the .1 version several times when thristerhallkallnallnull*something* released it |
| 09:16.16 | Galencia | i dont like how it chooses the stack which has 1 water in it to trade to someone, every time i right click :p |
| 09:16.20 | Mikma | i can only hope that he manages to get his mail delivered to clad so he can finally get the svn access |
| 09:16.20 | Greywind | oh is XAD useable now? |
| 09:16.38 | Greywind | lol @galencia |
| 09:16.42 | Greywind | that would suck |
| 09:16.45 | Mikma | Greywind: dunno but i still imported the .3 version today in |
| 09:16.59 | Galencia | Greywind: it does it all the damned time :p |
| 09:17.08 | Greywind | hmm well im bored so i guess ill try it out |
| 09:17.08 | Mikma | Galencia: please hax it and commit it to SVN |
| 09:17.11 | Galencia | im going to add an option to set the minimum stack size or something |
| 09:17.20 | Mikma | then tell in the XAD thread that you have made improvements for it |
| 09:17.29 | Greywind | should be 10 imo |
| 09:17.36 | Mikma | i think the author is starting to get pissed of to me hehe |
| 09:17.42 | [Ammo] | oh I missed a raid last night it seems :) |
| 09:17.43 | Greywind | lol |
| 09:17.50 | [Ammo] | they downed Thaddius without me! |
| 09:17.51 | [Ammo] | grrr |
| 09:17.56 | Gngsk | grats! |
| 09:18.28 | Greywind | i missed a AQ20 raid last night and it seems no other druid signed up for it either. all the druids are in timeout :P |
| 09:18.42 | Mikma | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3256 |
| 09:18.43 | Mikma | hahaa |
| 09:18.43 | [Ammo] | at least we can work on Gothik and Loatheb nw |
| 09:18.53 | [Ammo] | we're within 10 seconds of gothik slayage |
| 09:19.04 | steinowrk | oO |
| 09:19.08 | [Ammo] | once he's on the floor, he's dead |
| 09:19.09 | Greywind | our guild leader was pissed, we had a meeting in vent :D |
| 09:19.17 | Greywind | was quite funny actually |
| 09:19.25 | Greywind | i had a good excuse |
| 09:19.32 | Mikma | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3246 |
| 09:19.35 | Mikma | oh! druidlove |
| 09:19.38 | Greywind | i was passed out drunk on my brothers couch :D |
| 09:19.50 | Mikma | atlast an addon which does the same things i have wanted |
| 09:20.36 | Greywind | seems like any other swiftshift type addon |
| 09:20.56 | Mikma | yeah but this prowls you / charges enemy with the same shapeshift button |
| 09:21.04 | Greywind | ah just noticed that |
| 09:21.10 | steinowrk | oh the lazyness |
| 09:21.13 | Greywind | lol |
| 09:21.16 | steinowrk | damn druids :p |
| 09:21.23 | Wobin | oh bah |
| 09:21.25 | Mikma | and, keeps you shapeshifted |
| 09:21.34 | Wobin | I was wondering why all -my- addons were scoring high in Warmup |
| 09:21.47 | Wobin | when I realised they're the only ones I have the libraries in the subfolders for |
| 09:21.52 | Greywind | lol |
| 09:22.49 | Greywind | hmm the only non-aced addon i use now is klhthreat meter, nice |
| 09:23.14 | Mikma | oh YAY |
| 09:23.19 | Galencia | Greywind: same here.. |
| 09:23.28 | Mikma | micro$oft Acce$$ 2003 test, brb |
| 09:23.34 | steinowrk | oO |
| 09:23.39 | Wobin | sigh |
| 09:23.40 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r12809 10BigWigs/BWL/ (Chromaggus.lua Flamegor.lua): |
| 09:23.40 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: |
| 09:23.40 | CIA-11 | * frFR update for Chrom and flam |
| 09:23.41 | Wobin | TrainerSkills |
| 09:23.42 | Wobin | 4M |
| 09:23.46 | Wobin | while it's useful... |
| 09:23.48 | Wobin | jeez |
| 09:24.15 | Wobin | of course, KCItems is the same size |
| 09:24.31 | Greywind | trainerskills? is that a hunter addon? |
| 09:25.01 | Galencia | hm ok this is too complicated |
| 09:25.08 | Galencia | fixing xad is a job for another day :) |
| 09:25.19 | Mikma | Wobin: 4m? |
| 09:25.26 | Wobin | Megs |
| 09:25.39 | Galencia | oh wait, i found it |
| 09:26.15 | Wobin | oh and is SWStats better than DM? |
| 09:26.16 | Greywind | oh wait i use OmniCC |
| 09:26.26 | Greywind | so thats 2 non ace addons |
| 09:27.14 | Galencia | oh, thats not ace? hmm |
| 09:27.20 | Galencia | i think i found my new project then |
| 09:27.30 | oxman | ^^ |
| 09:27.37 | Greywind | hmm maybe i should lay down, my room is spinning. i really should watch how much i drink on days i have to work >.< |
| 09:27.49 | Galencia | making omnicc modular and only loading the right modules for your class |
| 09:27.51 | Galencia | would be kinda cool |
| 09:28.33 | Greywind | hmm, are we thinking of the same addon? |
| 09:28.41 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r12810 10ag_UnitFrames/ (6 files in 2 dirs): agUF(branch) merged. |
| 09:28.45 | Greywind | omnicc is a cooldown count on buttons |
| 09:29.06 | Galencia | so it is |
| 09:29.11 | Greywind | hmm did a branch get merged into trunk? |
| 09:29.15 | Galencia | *redface* |
| 09:29.35 | Greywind | its ok you still get a cookie |
| 09:29.47 | Galencia | woot |
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| 09:30.16 | CIA-11 | 03evilelvis * r12811 10eeMon/ (core.lua display.lua): eeMon: fix for a misnamed function and variable from last patch; lowered the step amount for changing bar size |
| 09:30.19 | Galencia | just goes to show i have no idea what half these addons im using actually do.. |
| 09:32.38 | Galencia | is there a prefered editor people use for lua? |
| 09:32.48 | Galencia | notepad is not the shit |
| 09:34.33 | Wobin | ~dr. Tran |
| 09:34.36 | purl | Just passin' 'em out! |
| 09:34.40 | nevcairiel | notepad++ |
| 09:34.52 | phyber | vim |
| 09:34.58 | Wobin | vim |
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| 09:35.58 | Galencia | bleh wordpad it is |
| 09:36.24 | phyber | use Microsoft Word for double goodness. |
| 09:36.36 | phyber | save it as .doc.lua and it's fine ;) |
| 09:36.42 | Galencia | pfft. |
| 09:37.14 | Galencia | mock me not, wordpad will strike you down |
| 09:37.17 | Wobin | hm |
| 09:37.28 | Wobin | I only get 27M on my rogue =\ |
| 09:37.37 | Wobin | There must be more I can cut down on |
| 09:37.44 | phyber | if it strikes me down, i shall become more powerful than you can ever imagine. |
| 09:37.56 | Wobin | jeditors? |
| 09:38.00 | Galencia | this is not the editor you are looking for |
| 09:38.02 | Wobin | (return of) |
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| 09:41.08 | krka | emacs with lua-mode |
| 09:41.10 | krka | 'nuff said |
| 09:41.35 | phyber | as a bonus emacs can make toast for you while you code! |
| 09:41.55 | Mikma | k done |
| 09:42.17 | Iceroth | my favourite quote about emacs: "it's a decent OS but lacks a good text editor" |
| 09:44.41 | Grey|away | i never like emacs or vim when i used linux, i forget which text editor i did decide on using though |
| 09:44.52 | ckknight | Galencia, Notepad2 with lua lexer |
| 09:45.11 | Mikma | joe <3 |
| 09:45.11 | Grey|away | im using editpad pro atm |
| 09:45.21 | Mikma | aaaand, smultron occasionally |
| 09:45.47 | Grey|away | smultron? sounds dirty, i gotta google that one :P |
| 09:46.06 | Mikma | oh yeah sorry haha it's for osx |
| 09:46.27 | Skyboat | I use Crimson Editor :) |
| 09:46.27 | Mikma | my bad :P i have been using joe lately with osx so i forgot it's osx |
| 09:46.55 | Grey|away | i used joe on osx |
| 09:46.55 | Mikma | Grey|away: http://smultron.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 09:47.37 | Grey|away | been a year or so though, my mac was old so i sold it and bought a windows box...im sort of regreting it |
| 09:48.07 | Mikma | apple should sell an upgrade packages for osx |
| 09:48.22 | Mikma | i don't wan't to reinstall the damn computer everytime i wan't to update :P |
| 09:48.41 | Grey|away | yeah i noticed that when i updated to panther |
| 09:48.53 | Grey|away | good thing i back up religiously |
| 09:48.54 | Mikma | forking and finetuning programs and crap in osx is a bitch after hdd failure (happened to me once) |
| 09:49.04 | Grey|away | ouch |
| 09:49.28 | Mikma | http://mikma.reaktio.net/osx/ |
| 09:49.34 | Mikma | so i was smarter this time and made that |
| 09:50.04 | Grey|away | i loved tweaking osx, it made me feel at home cause i had just moved from linux to it and the first thing i installed was xdarwin hehe |
| 09:50.04 | Wobin | yay |
| 09:50.04 | Galencia | ckknight: that looks nice.. where might i find the lua lexer? |
| 09:50.09 | Wobin | finally got some decent maces |
| 09:50.11 | ckknight | google. |
| 09:50.22 | Wobin | Bludstone and Bonechill |
| 09:50.22 | ckknight | someone compiled Notepad2 with lua support |
| 09:50.26 | hiflyer | smultron is not really dirty (too bad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragaria_vesca |
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| 09:50.40 | Galencia | yeah i found the thread on lua-users |
| 09:50.43 | Galencia | but not the link :) |
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| 09:51.09 | Galencia | i also found the source patch, but dont feel like compiling it |
| 09:51.37 | Galencia | gotcha. |
| 09:52.04 | Mikma | Thrae: wake up |
| 09:52.09 | Mikma | ~seen thrae |
| 09:52.14 | purl | thrae is currently on #wowi-lounge (4d 18h 21m 44s) #wowace (4d 18h 21m 44s). Has said a total of 91 messages. Is idling for 1d 10h 17m 35s, last said: '"Everyone use IP 312.134.12.31 for their SVN downloads, it has the best speed!!!!" ... 5 minutes later ... "WTF the SVN is slooooooww!!!!!!11"'. |
| 09:52.47 | CIA-11 | 03greywind 07elkano * r12812 10ElkBuffBar/ebb_ace2/Libs/: branches/ebb_ace2/ fixed externals..i hope |
| 09:53.24 | Elkano | why are people always a bit faster than I am... :/ |
| 09:54.00 | Mikma | Elkano: you're in slowmo |
| 09:54.58 | Iceroth | so when's ebb2 ready?) |
| 09:55.29 | Grey|away | i wish there was a lua ide with the blizzard functions in a list so i wouldnt always have to keep a browser window open to wowwiki.com :P |
| 09:55.56 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:55.57 | oxman | hum ElkBuffBar ace2? i will use it :p |
| 09:56.12 | Greywind | yeah and its using candybars for its bars now |
| 09:56.13 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 09:56.18 | oxman | Greywind use scite :p |
| 09:56.25 | oxman | very fine so Greywind :) |
| 09:56.30 | Greywind | scite always crashes on me :( |
| 09:56.46 | oxman | on which configuration ? |
| 09:56.49 | Greywind | or hangs when i save |
| 09:57.18 | Greywind | it actually hasnt crashed on me, just hangs when i save |
| 09:57.33 | Greywind | sometimes it will save and other times it hangs |
| 09:57.38 | Greywind | quite random actually |
| 09:57.41 | oxman | try the last version of wow scite, or download the last version on scite on the officiel website, then use the file of wow scite into your scite |
| 09:57.54 | Greywind | hmm k |
| 09:58.15 | oxman | (files of wow scite, except .exe, .dll, etc :p) |
| 09:58.21 | nevcairiel | Does anyone happen to know if Parserlib-2.0 is usable yet? |
| 09:58.35 | oxman | I dunno |
| 09:58.37 | Mikma | nevcairiel: try it and tell us |
| 09:58.40 | oxman | You want it do to what ? |
| 09:58.54 | nevcairiel | i want it to do what parserlib-1 does. |
| 09:59.06 | oxman | ? :) |
| 09:59.07 | nevcairiel | only in ace2 |
| 09:59.18 | [Ammo] | anyone going to fight Grobbulus soon? |
| 09:59.29 | [Ammo] | I need a transcript and my grobbulus doesn't reset till tomorrow :p |
| 09:59.36 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 09:59.37 | nevcairiel | same |
| 09:59.47 | nevcairiel | prolly fighting him tomorrow evening |
| 10:00.55 | oxman | :) |
| 10:03.45 | DarkImakuni | what's this 'scite' that you were talking about? |
| 10:03.58 | oxman | scite is an editor |
| 10:04.00 | oxman | scintilla editor |
| 10:04.01 | Mikma | shite! |
| 10:04.20 | Greywind | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4989 |
| 10:04.23 | oxman | scintilla.org/SciTE.html |
| 10:04.42 | Greywind | the wow version is at my link tthough |
| 10:04.48 | Greywind | didnt know it was updated |
| 10:04.49 | oxman | :) |
| 10:05.00 | Greywind | seems to be working fine now |
| 10:05.04 | Greywind | thanks ox |
| 10:05.23 | deci | http://youtube.com/watch?v=p6zCWbKW-GE |
| 10:05.26 | Greywind | eww it has an ugly ass icon though |
| 10:05.28 | Galencia | this notepad2 lark is kinda nice |
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| 10:06.01 | Greywind | deci: i hate you :P |
| 10:06.20 | deci | :) |
| 10:07.08 | oxman | Greywind I hide icon :p |
| 10:07.50 | Mikma | !trunk XAD |
| 10:07.57 | SVNBot | The latest revision of XAD is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/XAD/ |
| 10:08.29 | Mikma | Greywind: but whyyyyyy? :( |
| 10:10.27 | Greywind | oh wait nvm they will all be shaman and just frostshock me dead |
| 10:10.41 | vhaarr | I've never seen worse quality on the Auctioneer beta releases. |
| 10:10.57 | vhaarr | The last 5 unstable/beta releases have all errored on basic stuff like opening the AH or mail box |
| 10:10.58 | deci | ~frostshock Greywind |
| 10:11.03 | deci | :P |
| 10:11.16 | deci | awww purl isnt a shaman |
| 10:11.17 | deci | :< |
| 10:11.27 | Greywind | :P |
| 10:11.54 | Mikma | resist! |
| 10:12.04 | Mikma | now get life you freaks |
| 10:12.07 | Mikma | i'm going home to play wow. |
| 10:12.17 | deci | haha |
| 10:12.44 | Mikma | well, no, not really. i have to stay here for another 1,5h. damn |
| 10:14.38 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2034.msg48329#msg48329 |
| 10:14.43 | Mikma | i just felt like it... |
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| 10:15.45 | deci | lol |
| 10:15.46 | Greywind | lol why did he blur out the name |
| 10:15.51 | Greywind | thats sad |
| 10:15.56 | deci | hasnt that been addressed like 1000000000000000000000000 times? |
| 10:16.13 | Mikma | Greywind: that's why i just had to respond to him like that |
| 10:16.22 | Greywind | i saw hehe |
| 10:16.33 | Greywind | ok back to WoW |
| 10:17.04 | deci | theres should be a popup in each forum in giant red letters "SEARCH BEFORE YOU ASK A QUESTION THATS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED 95 TIMES" |
| 10:17.39 | DarkImakuni | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:22.13 | Mikma | kergoth: you should make a post on forums about the changes you did today... |
| 10:25.59 | Iceroth | couldn't agree more deci |
| 10:27.17 | Galencia | if information has to be searched for, its not readily enough available! |
| 10:27.20 | deci | i find it funny that people with reg an account to make one post asking a question like that, thats been answered countless times, then a person will respond with something smart and that person with one post will get all defensive like they arent in the wrong |
| 10:27.25 | Galencia | .. or something |
| 10:27.28 | deci | s/with/will |
| 10:27.34 | deci | yarly |
| 10:28.31 | deci | im sure i could type up a post with common questions and their answers, but i bet you'd still get people not reading a stickied thread and asking anyways |
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| 10:29.15 | Neebler | http://lh5.google.com/neebler/RRNCaM4VABI/AAAAAAAAAg8/cJtz6A8lnvc/Raducu.jpg |
| 10:29.25 | Galencia | probably, but then at least it would be down to their stupidity instead of a search failure |
| 10:30.08 | deci | brb reboot! |
| 10:30.45 | phyber | taking your shoes off and putting them back on never fixes anything. |
| 10:31.31 | Galencia | if anyone is bored enough, feel free to critque My First Addon(tm), at http://www.envyguild.org/AutoWCast.zip |
| 10:31.35 | Elkano | what was the frameswork purl is based on named? |
| 10:31.47 | phyber | POE::Component::IRC, probably. |
| 10:32.02 | Galencia | or Net::IRC if its really really old :p |
| 10:32.07 | phyber | yeah :p |
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| 10:35.01 | Elkano | ~info |
| 10:36.04 | Mikma | http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2459/wowscrnshot100106204635bd1.jpg |
| 10:36.09 | Mikma | look at all those buttons |
| 10:36.16 | oxman | Ebb = 1mb !!!! |
| 10:36.17 | oxman | :((( |
| 10:36.35 | [FH]Birdemani | 1mb of usage? |
| 10:37.40 | oxman | yep :/ |
| 10:37.50 | oxman | i've try withoui 19.4, with 20.4 :| |
| 10:37.58 | [FH]Birdemani | ouch |
| 10:38.03 | [FH]Birdemani | i just installed it last night too |
| 10:38.52 | oxman | its very big |
| 10:39.05 | oxman | i don't know why its too big |
| 10:39.17 | DarkImakuni | ~seen Tain |
| 10:39.29 | purl | tain is currently on #wowi-lounge (4h 11m 32s) #wowace (4h 11m 32s), last said: 'You kin do it!'. |
| 10:39.29 | [FH]Birdemani | didnt seem too cause any lag however, and my usage is at 29 in a raid now |
| 10:39.38 | [FH]Birdemani | I tried it out on four horse last night |
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| 10:43.04 | CIA-11 | 03gamefaq * r12813 10TinyTipOptions/TinyTipChatLocale_deDE.lua: TinyTipOptions - Can you belief it? Found a Typo! |
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| 10:45.10 | nevcairiel | (12:36:05) (Mikma) look at all those buttons <-- some people like having all spells visible all the time, no idea why. |
| 10:45.28 | Mikma | nevcairiel: yeah, i'm quite happy atm with pagemaster and 1 row of buttons |
| 10:45.35 | nevcairiel | i have 3 rows |
| 10:45.50 | nevcairiel | but might move one row to sprocket |
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| 10:46.07 | Mikma | i need a G15 keyboard for all my buttons :( |
| 10:46.19 | nevcairiel | i have a g15 |
| 10:46.27 | nevcairiel | but using the buttons for spells .. hm |
| 10:46.32 | nevcairiel | couldnt really get used to it |
| 10:46.38 | Mikma | i have a iBook 12" as keyboard lol |
| 10:47.07 | Elkano | oxman, where does the 1mb info come from? warmup? and which version of ebb? ebb1 or ebb_ace2? |
| 10:47.22 | Mikma | Elkano: i bet he has the old warmup |
| 10:47.55 | Elkano | well, that's why I asked ^^ |
| 10:48.09 | Mikma | i'm sorry if this offends someone but EWWWWWWW fuck - http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/ViciousJupiter/SS92606.jpg |
| 10:48.39 | CIA-11 | 03krtek * r12814 10Prat_Who/Prat_Who.lua: Prat_Who : typo in beautify table |
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| 10:49.12 | nevcairiel | man thats ugly |
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| 10:50.03 | Wobin | hehe |
| 10:50.09 | Wobin | I love using demonic runes as a rogue |
| 10:50.14 | KrteK | Hi |
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| 10:52.30 | Grey|away | do i have to add supply & demand to the optiondependencies of the addon i want to load with it or do i just have to set ## LoadOnDemand: 1 and its s&d category in the toc? |
| 10:52.57 | CIA-11 | 03darkimakuni * r12815 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_FrameTemplate.xml layouts/layouts.xml): |
| 10:52.57 | CIA-11 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 10:52.57 | CIA-11 | - Removed trailing white space from XML files |
| 10:53.21 | Wobin | The latter, Grey |
| 10:53.46 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r12816 10oRA2/ (Optional/CoolDown.lua oRA2.toc): |
| 10:53.46 | CIA-11 | oRA2: |
| 10:53.46 | CIA-11 | * first drycoded implementation of CoolDown Monitor with CandyBars. |
| 10:53.46 | CIA-11 | * removed it from the .toc because of it's drycoded state :) |
| 10:53.47 | oxman | Elkano fubar performance |
| 10:53.52 | oxman | Elkano ebb_ace2 |
| 10:54.26 | oxman | hum in fact maybe not ace2 |
| 10:54.29 | oxman | because you use only : |
| 10:54.34 | Elkano | well, this can be related to ace2 or candy |
| 10:54.36 | oxman | libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua |
| 10:54.36 | oxman | libs\Compost-2.0\Compost-2.0.lua |
| 10:54.39 | oxman | no |
| 10:54.48 | oxman | i've try without your addon (and with lots of ace2 addon) |
| 10:54.50 | Elkano | ok, then it's ebb1 |
| 10:54.51 | oxman | and i've 19.4 mb |
| 10:54.53 | Laricwork | elkano wich one is the ace2? |
| 10:54.56 | oxman | with i've 20.4 mb |
| 10:54.59 | Laricwork | where is it on the svn? |
| 10:55.12 | Elkano | Laricwork, look in branches |
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| 10:55.28 | Laricwork | is it stable? |
| 10:56.21 | Grey|away | it doesnt seem to have any features, like say chat commands |
| 10:56.21 | oxman | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ElkBuffBar/elkano/ebb_ace2/ |
| 10:56.31 | Grey|away | none that i could find any way |
| 10:56.42 | Elkano | it's 100% dev ^^ |
| 10:56.47 | Grey|away | ah coo |
| 10:57.02 | Elkano | shouldn't crash you but has tons of bugs/missing features |
| 10:57.03 | Grey|away | it doesnt matter to me, Ebb 1 works fine |
| 10:57.24 | [FH]Birdemani | quick dummy question about externals, they are all in the LIBS folder? |
| 10:57.29 | [FH]Birdemani | for all addons? |
| 10:57.33 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: no |
| 10:57.46 | oxman | i try ebb_ace2 |
| 10:58.19 | KrteK | [FH]Birdemani, depending on the author ^^ |
| 10:58.42 | [FH]Birdemani | just trying to understand how to do the no externals thing. Let me ask you this, if I just recheck out everything using NO EXTERNALS (using tortoise) and install ACE2 folder, I should be fine? |
| 10:58.57 | Neebler | hi birdemani |
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| 10:59.05 | [FH]Birdemani | hey neebler |
| 10:59.06 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: and again, no. |
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| 10:59.20 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: for Ace2 externals you will be pretty ok but not for rest. |
| 10:59.29 | oxman | really good ebb_ace2 !!!! |
| 10:59.34 | oxman | Elkano only 100k :) |
| 10:59.38 | snurre- | hm, not good.. winaceupdater overwrites my custom textures for oCB and ebb :( |
| 10:59.53 | snurre- | ebb_ace2? WHERE? |
| 11:00.02 | Mikma | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ElkBuffBar/elkano/ebb_ace2/ |
| 11:00.08 | [FH]Birdemani | MIKMA: Can you give me an example mod that I would have issues with that is on the SVN? And if so, what folder would I need to get to work around it |
| 11:00.10 | snurre- | wee |
| 11:00.13 | oxman | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ElkBuffBar/elkano/ebb_ace2/ |
| 11:00.17 | oxman | still in a VERY early stat |
| 11:00.17 | oxman | :) |
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| 11:00.25 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: oRA2, BigWigs, agUF |
| 11:00.29 | oxman | but very light copmpare to ebb |
| 11:00.59 | [FH]Birdemani | so what would I need for that? I'm trying to become a good user on the SVN? |
| 11:01.02 | [Ammo] | what's with oRA2 and BigWigs? |
| 11:01.02 | Elkano | well, oxman, I don't know why ebb1 takes 1mb for you :/ |
| 11:01.04 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: the thing is those addons do get alot of extra libraries around the svn when they are checkouted from svn. |
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| 11:01.15 | [FH]Birdemani | hrm |
| 11:01.18 | oxman | Elkano forget that, and work on ebb_ace2 ;) |
| 11:01.20 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: by disabling the externals you won't get the missing libraries and that usually means errors |
| 11:02.06 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: that's the reason why *someone* started to maintain the !!!Libraries -folder in svn |
| 11:02.27 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: it *should* contain all common libraries needed. should.. |
| 11:02.38 | Elkano | oxman, the problem is: ebb1 also shouldn't use that much memory so there is sth going wrong and knowing what it is will prevent me from doing this again |
| 11:02.58 | oxman | its true :p |
| 11:03.03 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: but for the love of god, do not checkout it with externals disabled lol |
| 11:03.11 | [FH]Birdemani | lol |
| 11:03.15 | oxman | but i will update ekkb_ace2 each day Elkano |
| 11:03.22 | oxman | so i will tell you if ekkb_ace2 take lots of memory |
| 11:03.22 | oxman | ;) |
| 11:03.35 | Mikma | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/!!!Libraries/ |
| 11:03.44 | Mikma | 2 things inside. 1 empty folder and !!!Libraries.toc |
| 11:04.35 | DarkImakuni | its fine, lern2enableexternals :P |
| 11:04.42 | Mikma | hmm i think i will give it a testdrive today |
| 11:04.52 | [FH]Birdemani | let me know how that works :p |
| 11:04.53 | Mikma | will make a backup interface and delete all externals |
| 11:05.16 | oxman | oh i don't see the mount buff =p |
| 11:05.24 | Mikma | oxman: well mount up! |
| 11:05.30 | Elkano | I still think that !!!Libraries was a bad idea since updating it will do a ton of external updates... better check out each lib individual and update it according to the svn log |
| 11:05.39 | Grey|away | ok how do i use the new ## X-S&D-Mail: tag from S&D, do i add true? |
| 11:06.29 | Mikma | Elkano: well the libraries aren't updated *that* often :) |
| 11:06.43 | Elkano | these ## X- tags... they do nothing... ;) |
| 11:06.44 | Fritti | what's S&D ? |
| 11:06.52 | Mikma | SuppleAndDemand |
| 11:07.00 | Fritti | been away for a few weeks |
| 11:07.11 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r12817 10BigWigs_KLHTMTarget/ (. BigWigs_KLHTMTarget.lua BigWigs_KLHTMTarget.toc): BigWigs_KLHTMTarget: Initial import. Sets the KLH Threat Meter main target when a bigwigs boss module is enabled. May cause insanity if used in BWL. |
| 11:07.15 | Mikma | !info SupplyAndDemand/ |
| 11:07.38 | Grey|away | Elkano: yes those tags actually do do something mate |
| 11:07.39 | Mikma | vhaarr: does that require the original addon to be loaded also |
| 11:07.43 | Fritti | ~poke purl |
| 11:07.45 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind purl, pokes purl repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 11:07.50 | vhaarr | Mikma: yes |
| 11:08.01 | Mikma | then it suxxxxxxor lololoo :/ |
| 11:08.06 | phyber | who was Rabbit again? |
| 11:08.11 | Grey|away | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Supply_and_Demand |
| 11:08.15 | Mikma | phyber: some assclown |
| 11:08.19 | Fritti | thanks Grey|away |
| 11:08.20 | [FH]Birdemani | btw, is there a good Spore Group Callout mod for Loatheb yet? |
| 11:08.22 | Health | word |
| 11:08.23 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r12818 10BigWigs_KLHTMTarget/BigWigs_KLHTMTarget.toc: BigWigs_KLHTMTarget: svn:keywords |
| 11:08.25 | Fritti | wiki search is broken for me for some reason |
| 11:08.34 | phyber | might cause insanity in AQ40 too. we have people targetting C'Thun after Skeram :p |
| 11:08.47 | snurre- | for bw_klhtm, perhaps you should make it set main target when you engage? |
| 11:08.51 | snurre- | instead of when module loads |
| 11:09.02 | [Ammo] | snurre: write your own addon for that |
| 11:09.11 | [Ammo] | snurre: we're not bloating bigwigs with it |
| 11:09.13 | Elkano | iirc rabbit is a real stupid person... luckily he isn't in this channel so he'll never know what bad things we are talking about him... ;) |
| 11:09.23 | Greywind | lol |
| 11:09.26 | vhaarr | indeed he is never on irc |
| 11:09.29 | vhaarr | ~seen rabbit |
| 11:09.30 | purl | rabbit <n=rabbit@net.w0w0w.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 405d 11h 39m 28s ago, saying: '+in'. |
| 11:09.37 | vhaarr | well almost never |
| 11:09.54 | Mikma | yeah |
| 11:10.29 | Health | I should start writing bloated modules for biggy |
| 11:10.36 | snurre- | ammo: uhm, im talking about [13:06] <CIA-11> rabbit * r12818 BigWigs_KLHTMTarget/BigWigs_KLHTMTarget.toc: BigWigs_KLHTMTarget: |
| 11:10.42 | snurre- | not bloating anything with my suggestion |
| 11:10.55 | snurre- | only a difference in *when* it sets main target |
| 11:10.59 | vhaarr | snurre: Your suggestion adds bloat. |
| 11:11.05 | vhaarr | Because of the way BW works. |
| 11:11.11 | vhaarr | So we didn't do it that way. |
| 11:11.13 | snurre- | uh, ok |
| 11:11.17 | vhaarr | Feel free to code your own mod. |
| 11:11.27 | snurre- | i cant code |
| 11:11.33 | snurre- | im just here to whine and suggest |
| 11:11.44 | Mikma | snurre-: TUPLAD! |
| 11:11.58 | vhaarr | You can whine and suggest on the forums. |
| 11:12.25 | phyber | what happened to tuplad? was he banned? |
| 11:12.28 | Health | Yes |
| 11:12.31 | phyber | haha |
| 11:12.43 | Mikma | oh lol |
| 11:12.50 | Mikma | that explains why he has not been here for a while |
| 11:12.51 | Health | Interesting that he has svn commit access... or at least had |
| 11:12.54 | Mikma | what did he do this time? |
| 11:13.19 | Greywind | tuplad, i recognize that name. was he bad or something? |
| 11:13.24 | haste | Yes |
| 11:13.26 | Mikma | ~karma tuplad |
| 11:13.26 | purl | tuplad has karma of -9 |
| 11:13.26 | phyber | dammit. I'm not logging #wowace so I can't check :| |
| 11:13.27 | haste | very very very bad |
| 11:13.45 | haste | ~seen tuplad |
| 11:13.47 | purl | tuplad <n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 23d 13h 26m 11s ago, saying: ':P'. |
| 11:13.47 | phyber | ~logs |
| 11:13.49 | purl | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 11:13.55 | Mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:14.03 | Greywind | damn thats some bad karma there |
| 11:14.10 | Greywind | what did he do? |
| 11:14.22 | Mikma | let's search the logs |
| 11:14.32 | phyber | Mikma: clearly, you need to download my bantime script ;) http://midgar.cardboardium.com/~phyber/irssi/bantime.pl |
| 11:14.38 | phyber | 1212.13 2 - #wowace: ban *!*@d54C52170.access.telenet.be [by ChanServ!ChanServ@services., Sun Sep 10 18:58:25 2006: 22d 17h 13m 48s ago] |
| 11:14.44 | phyber | time = better than seconds :p |
| 11:14.52 | DarkImakuni | ~karma DarkImakuni |
| 11:14.52 | purl | darkimakuni has neutral karma |
| 11:14.53 | Mikma | phyber: lol :) |
| 11:15.06 | Greywind | ~karma Greywind |
| 11:15.06 | purl | greywind has neutral karma |
| 11:15.09 | Greywind | woot |
| 11:15.11 | Greywind | :P |
| 11:15.23 | DarkImakuni | ~karma Wobin |
| 11:15.23 | purl | wobin has neutral karma |
| 11:15.26 | DarkImakuni | bah |
| 11:15.40 | [FH]Birdemani | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.16 | Health | "oRA2 and Bigwigs are 100% compatable" p rly? |
| 11:16.19 | *** join/#wowace Soulmagae (n=dripdrip@d54C1D644.access.telenet.be) |
| 11:16.24 | Health | with CT_RaidAssist |
| 11:16.43 | krka | hah! i made you use "p rly" |
| 11:16.52 | DarkImakuni | oRA2 + BigWigs + sRaidFrames > CT_RaidAssist |
| 11:16.57 | Health | Decursive - why not use detox if you make a "low memory pack" ? |
| 11:17.00 | [Ammo] | that low-mem-raid-pack was removed from WoWi |
| 11:17.09 | [Ammo] | because the author kept spewing CRAP about oRA2 |
| 11:17.18 | [Ammo] | I think I'll sent a complaint to curse as well |
| 11:17.23 | Health | :p |
| 11:17.27 | [Ammo] | that asshole pissed me off royally |
| 11:17.39 | DarkImakuni | ~kill all assholes |
| 11:17.41 | purl | ACTION shoots a pseudoelectron gun at all assholes |
| 11:17.41 | Soulmagae | who can not love ora2 ? |
| 11:17.48 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r12819 10BigWigs_KLHTMTarget/BigWigs_KLHTMTarget.lua: BigWigs_KLHTMTarget: This mod is ORPHANED. Noone cares about it and you shouldn't ask questions about it. Fix it yourself. |
| 11:18.15 | nevcairiel | there are no DoTs which can actually crit, or? |
| 11:18.22 | Soulmagae | no dots cant crit |
| 11:18.27 | *** join/#wowace moonwolf (n=moonwolf@213.160.215.6) |
| 11:18.27 | *** mode/#wowace [+o moonwolf] by ChanServ |
| 11:18.29 | nevcairiel | good |
| 11:19.08 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r12820 10oRA2/ (Optional/CoolDown.lua oRA2.toc): |
| 11:19.08 | CIA-11 | oRA2: |
| 11:19.08 | CIA-11 | * Optional cooldown module with CandyBars. [experimental] |
| 11:19.19 | oxman | ???? |
| 11:19.20 | [FH]Birdemani | autobar author saying that ACE2 or periodic table is in next version, that should be nice |
| 11:19.23 | oxman | cooldown in ora2 ???? |
| 11:19.34 | Health | BLOAT |
| 11:19.41 | Soulmagae | reports cds :d |
| 11:19.47 | Mikma | oxman: it's plazebo, don't trust it |
| 11:20.36 | Soulmagae | but man, ppl are so stuburn sometimes |
| 11:20.56 | Soulmagae | trying to convert your guild over to ora completely to help em with lagg cauzed by garbage collection |
| 11:20.57 | nevcairiel | Does lua have binary operators, or better, what are those ? :D |
| 11:21.35 | Health | nevcairiel: there is a binary operators back in wow |
| 11:21.49 | Health | lua bin operator lib / pack / penis |
| 11:22.05 | Health | I don't know how to use them but I know they are there! |
| 11:22.32 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r12821 10oRA2/TODO.txt: oRA2: TODO updated. |
| 11:22.33 | Elkano | hmm... has sct been fixed for the new svn? |
| 11:22.39 | Health | lua vanilla doesn't have them afik |
| 11:23.12 | Mikma | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowace/20060909.html.gz -> 21:42.55 |
| 11:23.15 | Mikma | there it starts |
| 11:24.09 | DarkImakuni | elkano: works for me, but I have externals switched off :P |
| 11:24.54 | Mikma | hahahaa... <haste> is he banned for real this time? <ckknight> yep. <haste> salvation! |
| 11:25.12 | Wobin | mwho dat? |
| 11:25.14 | Elkano | well, I'm in the process of recheckingout everything without externals |
| 11:25.14 | *** join/#wowace kov` (i=x@p5081D2DC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:25.15 | KrteK | Tekkub, externals in tekAutoRep are still the old one :D |
| 11:25.15 | vhaarr | Elkano: yes it has |
| 11:26.36 | [Ammo] | if anyone is in a raid with oRA2 please test the Optional/CoolDown, enable the cooldown monitor via the menu :) |
| 11:26.50 | [FH]Birdemani | US realms are down |
| 11:26.52 | [FH]Birdemani | or I wouldn |
| 11:26.54 | [FH]Birdemani | would |
| 11:26.58 | Wobin | well not yet |
| 11:27.06 | Wobin | for some of us |
| 11:27.17 | Soulmagae | no more need for fubar_ora2cooldownFu ? |
| 11:27.19 | Wobin | but it's a bit close for raiding |
| 11:27.31 | [FH]Birdemani | Ammo: is that a tablet that shows up, or does it just broadcast it so oracooldownfu and sraidframes can grab it? |
| 11:27.48 | [Ammo] | I never agreed with oRA2cooldownfu |
| 11:27.58 | [Ammo] | and this one was in the making afor a while :) |
| 11:28.09 | [Ammo] | anyway, it's similar to the resurrection monitor |
| 11:28.12 | [Ammo] | but it has candybars |
| 11:28.22 | [FH]Birdemani | will be nice to have the cooldowns back |
| 11:28.23 | DarkImakuni | mmm... candy... :9 |
| 11:28.23 | [FH]Birdemani | thanks |
| 11:28.37 | Soulmagae | not that kinda candy dark! :d |
| 11:28.48 | DarkImakuni | aww :( |
| 11:28.53 | [Ammo] | it does't show which cooldowns are ready yet |
| 11:28.58 | Iceroth | what's wrong with ora2cdfu? |
| 11:29.09 | [FH]Birdemani | oracdfu never worked for me |
| 11:29.10 | [Ammo] | it's not written by me? |
| 11:29.11 | DarkImakuni | candy = sweet, bars made with CandyBar lib also = sweet :P |
| 11:29.28 | [Ammo] | but you can use either that or the monitor in oRA2 |
| 11:29.36 | [Ammo] | for sake of compat I kept the event the same :p |
| 11:29.46 | KrteK | [Ammo], what about adding cooldown in game tooltip ? don't have much space for more candy bars ^^ |
| 11:29.49 | Iceroth | it does the job perfectly, shows who have combat rezzes ready and not visible all the time |
| 11:30.18 | Soulmagae | can always detact tooltip to make it visible at all times ofc :d |
| 11:30.34 | [Ammo] | KrTek: that's something someone else should add |
| 11:30.47 | [Ammo] | krtek: because I don't distribute raidframes with oRA |
| 11:30.52 | [FH]Birdemani | oo, my old realm is still up, let me see if i can test it there ammo |
| 11:31.11 | [FH]Birdemani | iceroth, it never worked for me |
| 11:31.39 | Iceroth | i haven't had a single problem with it |
| 11:31.47 | [Ammo] | well then you can keep on using it |
| 11:31.52 | Mikma | Gngsk, kergoth: can either one of you post an instructions on wowace forums on how to do the S&D tricks you did? |
| 11:31.55 | [FH]Birdemani | Ammo: I think he means as a tablet you can show by using fubar or detaching from fubar |
| 11:31.57 | KrteK | [Ammo] ok, I don't know like game tooltip work ^^ |
| 11:32.30 | [Ammo] | ok listen up: I code oRA2 the way I feel it should work, don't like it, use something else. end of discussion. |
| 11:32.31 | Mikma | Thrae: and WAKE UP and fix svnbot's !toc :D wrong url |
| 11:32.49 | [Ammo] | now it's time for work |
| 11:32.54 | Mikma | [Ammo]: have fun |
| 11:33.19 | KrteK | [Ammo] and keep working this way, oRA2 is very cool :) |
| 11:33.28 | Mikma | [Ammo]: rangemeters lolo! |
| 11:33.42 | snurre- | hm, i hope ebb2 is using candybars |
| 11:33.55 | DarkImakuni | ~karma SVNBot |
| 11:33.55 | purl | svnbot has neutral karma |
| 11:34.07 | DarkImakuni | ~karma purl |
| 11:34.07 | purl | purl has karma of 8 |
| 11:34.12 | DarkImakuni | o.O |
| 11:34.15 | oxman | snurre- it use it ;p |
| 11:34.17 | Mikma | ~karma ckknight |
| 11:34.17 | purl | ckknight has karma of 6 |
| 11:34.21 | oxman | at least ebb_ace2 |
| 11:34.22 | oxman | :) |
| 11:34.49 | snurre- | ebb_ace2 doesnt show up in my addons listing o.O |
| 11:34.58 | oxman | it still in alpha :) |
| 11:35.25 | Elkano | snurre-, make sure your folder is named ElkBuffBar |
| 11:35.50 | snurre- | hm k |
| 11:35.54 | Elkano | folder and toc name have to match |
| 11:35.56 | snurre- | lemme rename and stuff |
| 11:36.18 | snurre- | once ebb2 is in place i only need a new ocb |
| 11:36.18 | Elkano | but it's intentional that the branch is named different |
| 11:36.33 | [FH]Birdemani | oo, the new MT options are really nice |
| 11:39.37 | snurre- | btw, for chronometer, could you remove Battle Shout from the listing? imo it's not needed there when you have a buff frame |
| 11:40.07 | Greywind | yeah self buffs are a bit in the way hehe |
| 11:40.17 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r12822 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames-enUS.lua): ag_UnitFrames: Group names translated. |
| 11:41.40 | Greywind | bleh had to go back to autobar, XAD is a bit too rough around the edges for my taste |
| 11:42.03 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r12823 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Oops. |
| 11:42.12 | Greywind | lol rabbit |
| 11:42.35 | Greywind | omg its 8 am i should get to bed |
| 11:42.43 | DarkImakuni | lol |
| 11:42.49 | moonwolf | then go. |
| 11:42.53 | moonwolf | nobody is keeping you here. |
| 11:43.19 | Greywind | how do you know someone with a gun is behind me forcing me to be here eh? :P |
| 11:43.49 | Greywind | err that sentence didnt make sence |
| 11:43.55 | Greywind | okies im out |
| 11:45.51 | JoshBork1 | hrm, any svn mirrors here? |
| 11:46.21 | Gngsk | matts-hosting.com/addons/trunk/root |
| 11:48.31 | [FH]Birdemani | bah, cant get any warlocks to test the oRA2 cooldowns, but I did notice that the /raver command doesnt work anymore |
| 11:50.18 | snurre- | so like.. who feels like reworking http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1656 ? :p |
| 11:51.27 | *** join/#wowace Nuke- (n=Nuke@89-178-36-252.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 11:52.13 | nevcairiel | i need a UI, anyone feels like building one for me? |
| 11:52.13 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 11:52.19 | [Ammo] | birdemani it works just ifne |
| 11:52.30 | [Ammo] | just that the listing is filled slowly |
| 11:52.37 | [Ammo] | since there is no real version request sent out |
| 11:52.48 | [Ammo] | you can fill it faster by requesting a status update with oRA |
| 11:53.14 | Nickenyfiken | anyone know if anyone is working on converting Necromicon and Mendeleev to Ace2? |
| 11:53.18 | Laricwork | I have a hard time getting the other raid members to update their bigwigs.. "but it is only 3 weeks old" :P |
| 11:53.19 | evl | Ammo, what is this mystical, magical cooldown thing? |
| 11:53.31 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: can you make the version frame just request a status update when it is opened? |
| 11:53.40 | [Ammo] | I could |
| 11:53.46 | [Ammo] | but it won't update :p |
| 11:54.02 | [Ammo] | so you have to hit the refresh button afterwards a few times |
| 11:54.09 | [Ammo] | which is kinda pointless |
| 11:54.29 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r12824 10Fizzle/Libs/: |
| 11:54.29 | CIA-11 | Fizzle: |
| 11:54.29 | CIA-11 | - Removed duplicate AceHook-2.0 line from externals. |
| 11:54.30 | evl | Is it sorta like HostelBar? |
| 11:55.19 | Laricwork | Elkano how far off is ebb_ace2 from production? |
| 11:56.28 | *** join/#wowace NP`Soulmagae (n=dripdrip@d54C1D644.access.telenet.be) |
| 11:56.36 | snurre- | weird scaling in ebb2 o.O |
| 11:56.56 | [Ammo] | Nickenyfiken: I've almost got a working Necronomicon Ace2 without the timers though |
| 11:57.07 | [Ammo] | am hoping Chronometer will be sufficient enough for that |
| 11:57.15 | [Ammo] | so many projects so little time |
| 11:57.20 | Nickenyfiken | yeah there are enough timer mods |
| 11:57.26 | *** join/#wowace FtH|eagle (n=eagle@HSI-KBW-085-216-057-137.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 11:57.30 | Nickenyfiken | nice nice :-) |
| 11:57.47 | FtH|eagle | argh, stupid ubuntu installer |
| 11:57.57 | Nickenyfiken | whats wrong with ubuntu installer? |
| 11:58.02 | FtH|eagle | everything |
| 11:58.14 | Nickenyfiken | working perfectly last time i installed |
| 11:58.19 | FtH|eagle | wanted to test 6.10, but all I get is a blank screen |
| 11:58.55 | KrteK | FtH|eagle, use Debian ^^ |
| 11:59.10 | FtH|eagle | don't like debian |
| 11:59.21 | Nickenyfiken | oh 6.10, think i got 6.06 dapper installed or something |
| 11:59.22 | DarkImakuni | whats the best linux distribution to play WoW on? |
| 11:59.44 | KrteK | DarkImakuni, it's the same for all I think |
| 11:59.48 | oxman | gentoo i think |
| 11:59.55 | oxman | because it hase winex patched for wow |
| 11:59.55 | oxman | :) |
| 12:00.01 | oxman | but all distribution are fine |
| 12:00.09 | oxman | but the best is archlinux ^^ |
| 12:00.31 | KrteK | the best's Debian |
| 12:00.39 | phyber | there is no best, just which distro people enjoy the most. |
| 12:00.43 | phyber | observe! |
| 12:00.45 | oxman | ah ah the best heavy machine not uptodate ? |
| 12:00.45 | oxman | :') |
| 12:00.46 | Nickenyfiken | well its easy enough to install patched wine on any dist |
| 12:00.47 | phyber | the best is slackware. |
| 12:01.00 | oxman | slackware, one version, ten years |
| 12:01.00 | oxman | ;p |
| 12:01.15 | oxman | try to find a default to archlinux =) |
| 12:01.17 | oxman | good luck. |
| 12:01.18 | Nickenyfiken | lol not another OS discussion. i just saw a Win vs. OSX :-P |
| 12:01.32 | DarkImakuni | OSX > Windows :P |
| 12:01.39 | [Ammo] | MovieOS > all |
| 12:01.42 | phyber | BeOS > OS/2 |
| 12:01.52 | oxman | Wii > All |
| 12:01.52 | [Ammo] | MovieOS can make blurry pictures become razorsharp! |
| 12:02.04 | [Ammo] | I mean no other OS can do that! |
| 12:02.07 | phyber | [Ammo]: zomg torrent pls?! |
| 12:02.12 | Machine_ | osx would be > windows if every goddamn videoclip out there weren't .wmv |
| 12:02.16 | [Ammo] | it's highly secret phyber |
| 12:02.22 | [Ammo] | only used in the best spy movies |
| 12:02.31 | [Ammo] | but it's > all |
| 12:02.42 | [Ammo] | it has support for holographic imagery! |
| 12:02.48 | [Ammo] | with holographic touchdisplays |
| 12:02.59 | [Ammo] | now tell me another OS that has support for that! |
| 12:03.02 | Machine_ | gentoo is a undocumented hack |
| 12:03.05 | KrteK | Machine_, vlc is fine for reading wmv with OSX ^^ |
| 12:03.14 | Mikma | wada |
| 12:03.19 | Machine_ | KrteK: nop, not the latest wmv codec |
| 12:03.28 | Mikma | umm |
| 12:03.33 | Mikma | http://mikma.reaktio.net/osx |
| 12:03.45 | Mikma | http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv.htm |
| 12:04.00 | Mikma | wmv plugin for Quicktime. go fetch. bitch! |
| 12:06.01 | evl | [Ammo]: so oRA2 cooldowns is something similar to CT_Timers? Like timing obsidian spawns? |
| 12:06.15 | nevcairiel | no one understands :/ |
| 12:06.23 | phyber | every once in a while I keep thinking about getting a MacMini so I can play around with OSX. I might do it one day. |
| 12:06.37 | nevcairiel | evl: its for spell cooldowns, like soulstones, combat rezz, etc |
| 12:06.52 | evl | oh, you can see other peoples cooldowns, naizor |
| 12:07.48 | *** part/#wowace Gemski (n=Gemski@c-24-129-86-149.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 12:08.29 | [Ammo] | evl: it monitors the cooldown messages sent by CTRA and oRA and adds them with candybars to a cooldown Monitor |
| 12:08.38 | evl | nice |
| 12:08.47 | evl | ONe thing that annoys the fuck out of me |
| 12:08.54 | Machine_ | Mikma: yeah, but it isn't exactly seamlessly integrated. and having to buy quicktime pro for full screen viewing sucks. (unless you count that widget hack) |
| 12:08.54 | [Ammo] | evl: let me guess something with MTs? |
| 12:09.03 | evl | is that the XRS bars are just 10 pixels narrower than oRA2 MT bars :P |
| 12:09.20 | phyber | [Ammo]: are those sent out by CTRA when someone uses an ability with a cooldown or just when CTRA requests a cooldown check? |
| 12:09.21 | KrteK | lol evl |
| 12:09.30 | Mikma | Machine_: true that, sec |
| 12:09.37 | Machine_ | and no ventrilo in osx sucks too |
| 12:09.44 | nevcairiel | they are _only_ sent when the spell is used, and never synced anfterwards, iirc |
| 12:09.44 | Mikma | lies |
| 12:09.51 | Mikma | osx has vent and ts |
| 12:10.10 | [Ammo] | phyber: sent when used |
| 12:10.17 | phyber | ok. just wondered. :) |
| 12:10.33 | phyber | oRA2 sends them too, right? so I can see cooldown of other oRA2 users? |
| 12:10.33 | nevcairiel | ammo do you save them in acedb so that we still have the bars after a reload? |
| 12:10.41 | [Ammo] | yes I do nevcairiel |
| 12:10.44 | Machine_ | yeah, well not everyone is running cracked ventrilo 2.3 servers. most people stick with 2.1.* |
| 12:10.46 | nevcairiel | nice :) |
| 12:10.47 | steinowrk | wtf |
| 12:11.02 | steinowrk | ventrilo released a osx prototype +! |
| 12:11.07 | steinowrk | but no linux |
| 12:11.09 | steinowrk | *cry* |
| 12:11.16 | Mikma | owned. |
| 12:11.18 | nevcairiel | bah i hate complex table sorting and filtering algorithms. and i hate UI design. |
| 12:11.22 | nevcairiel | why did i even start |
| 12:11.24 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 12:11.29 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 12:11.29 | KrteK | ventrilo run fine with Wine steino |
| 12:11.34 | steinowrk | yes, with wine |
| 12:11.37 | Machine_ | yeah, giev open source alternative to vent/ts plb |
| 12:11.50 | evl | SIP? |
| 12:11.57 | Health | ts is almost os! |
| 12:12.00 | Health | oss! |
| 12:12.05 | [Ammo] | we just use an old vent |
| 12:12.14 | [Ammo] | works just fine and supports enough users |
| 12:12.27 | steinowrk | i run old vent too :o |
| 12:12.36 | phyber | we just record ourselves in Windows Sound Recorder and email each other. |
| 12:12.45 | Health | hot |
| 12:12.51 | steinowrk | old school |
| 12:12.51 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 12:12.52 | *** part/#wowace JoshBork1 (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 12:12.55 | KrteK | LOL |
| 12:12.58 | nevcairiel | yeah we run an old vent as well |
| 12:13.01 | Machine_ | i wouldn't mind a free alternative tho, written in portable native c/c++ |
| 12:13.07 | nevcairiel | i would like some of the new features in the new vent tho |
| 12:13.12 | nevcairiel | but what you gonna do |
| 12:13.46 | Machine_ | you're gonna enjoy that drunken irishman singing in ventrilo on a raid sundag |
| 12:13.51 | *** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@c-24-127-197-121.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 12:14.10 | Health | Teamspeak works great for us. |
| 12:14.43 | nevcairiel | the latency in teamspeak sucks, always two people talk the same time etc |
| 12:14.48 | Wobin | My guildmate's raid often has a complete stranger randomly log into their vent server, shout "DO YOU LIKE RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE?!?!?!" and play a ratm song. |
| 12:14.51 | evl | Sooner or later Google Talk will support multiple users |
| 12:14.57 | evl | Then we can safely put those to death |
| 12:15.12 | Wobin | Although he's not really a complete stranger anymore |
| 12:15.25 | Wobin | Fondly known now, as "That freak" |
| 12:15.46 | Gamefaq | someone here that plays a mage with english wow client? need a bit help with a translation i do right now |
| 12:15.49 | Machine_ | someone in here mentioned you could exchange the speex codec dlls in teamspeak for newer "unstable" ones and you'd get vastly improved sound quality |
| 12:15.55 | Wobin | Gamefaq: Sure |
| 12:16.04 | Gamefaq | PowerInfusion is that the last skill from arkane |
| 12:16.05 | mjc | Wobin: mrplow2 <3 :) |
| 12:16.06 | Machine_ | because the original speex codec is awful |
| 12:16.16 | Wobin | PI is a priest spell, isn't it? |
| 12:16.21 | Gamefaq | or i this when someone use a damage trinket? |
| 12:16.21 | Laricwork | nevcairiel do you have a nice alternative to ts? vent is costing a bundle |
| 12:16.28 | Mikma | *cry* Gngsk or kergoth haven't replied to me :( |
| 12:16.35 | Wobin | It's a priest talent |
| 12:16.38 | Gngsk | whaaa? |
| 12:16.39 | nevcairiel | Laricwork: use a old vent server |
| 12:16.43 | Laricwork | Wobin talnet based on yes |
| 12:16.58 | Wobin | mjc: Are there bugs? |
| 12:16.58 | Machine_ | Laricwork: ventrilo 2.1.* is free and you can have unlimited clients connected |
| 12:17.00 | Machine_ | iirc |
| 12:17.05 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 12:17.08 | Mikma | Gngsk: can you make a quick instructions to forums (ie. ie tutorials) how to mod the addons to support S&D |
| 12:17.12 | Laricwork | but you cant have the new clients right? |
| 12:17.12 | nevcairiel | 2.1.4 is the version to go :) |
| 12:17.20 | Mikma | s/ie. ie/ie. in/ |
| 12:17.20 | mjc | Wobin: when I changed direction while it was sorting and then tried to resort it thought it was done |
| 12:17.21 | nevcairiel | you need the old client as well, right |
| 12:17.32 | Machine_ | then there's the clusterfuck that is not allowing multiple versions of ventrilo to be installed at the same time |
| 12:17.34 | Gngsk | ## LoadOnDemand: 1 is all you need |
| 12:17.40 | Wobin | well why'd you do something so silly? =) |
| 12:17.47 | Gngsk | then add the X-S&D |
| 12:17.52 | Mikma | Gngsk: what about the other one? |
| 12:17.54 | Wobin | Watch out though |
| 12:18.02 | nevcairiel | ive seen some ventrilo switcher, but forgot the name |
| 12:18.02 | Wobin | if the addon has an xml, it won't work that way |
| 12:18.05 | mjc | Gamefaq: you mean Arcane Power |
| 12:18.08 | mjc | Gamefaq: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=o |
| 12:18.10 | Gngsk | http://wiki.wowace.com/wiki/SupplyAndDemand |
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| 12:18.16 | Laricwork | I would love to buy ventrilo to run on my server.. but they arent selling anything less than 1000 seats |
| 12:18.20 | Wobin | LoD doesn't work for addons with an xml |
| 12:18.21 | Gamefaq | ahh thx mjc |
| 12:18.32 | Mikma | there we go... XAD giving me a big error on login |
| 12:18.42 | Gngsk | Mikma, you have to remove any Dependancy or OptDependancy fields too |
| 12:18.51 | mjc | yep |
| 12:18.53 | mjc | bbl work |
| 12:18.55 | Wobin | optdep? |
| 12:18.56 | Wobin | why? |
| 12:19.05 | Laricwork | Wobin doesnt it even work with a bindings.xml? |
| 12:19.09 | Mikma | Gngsk: would take you a 3mins to post all the needed info in forums :P |
| 12:19.14 | Gngsk | cuz it'll load when the optdep does apparently |
| 12:19.17 | Wobin | Laricwork: I think that's an exception, but don't take my word for it |
| 12:19.38 | Wobin | mostly for in game graphics xmls |
| 12:19.40 | Gngsk | I don't feel writing documentation for someone elses addon :X |
| 12:19.43 | Wobin | I recall |
| 12:19.54 | Gngsk | er, comfortable |
| 12:22.25 | Machine_ | i want a mac pro with dual quad core processors |
| 12:22.30 | FtH|eagle | perfectraid is giving me a constant error |
| 12:22.46 | oxman | perfectraid is bad |
| 12:22.51 | oxman | use the fantastic ct_raidassist |
| 12:22.51 | oxman | :p |
| 12:22.52 | Machine_ | and i want to be able to use any graphics card i like, not just the ones selected by apple |
| 12:22.54 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r12825 10BigWigs_KLHTMTarget/BigWigs_KLHTMTarget.lua: BigWigs_KLHTMTarget: Don't do anything if we're not promoted/leader. |
| 12:23.06 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r12826 10BigWigs_KLHTMTarget/BigWigs_KLHTMTarget.lua: BigWigs_KLHTMTarget: Set svn keywords. |
| 12:24.15 | Mikma | gah |
| 12:24.21 | Mikma | XAD ain't errorfree |
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| 12:24.35 | Mikma | FuBar\libs\Compost-2.0\Compost-2.0.lua:68: Someone is modifying tables reclaimed by Compost! |
| 12:25.44 | Nickenyfiken | :-/ |
| 12:25.50 | Mikma | *PIF* *BOOF* *KABOW!* |
| 12:26.01 | Nickenyfiken | i had that error when i was writing a mod |
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| 12:27.07 | Wobin | mjc: I can't really help you about mrplow if you start changing variables midplow =\ |
| 12:27.15 | Wobin | That would have happened in the old version too |
| 12:28.20 | *** join/#wowace NA|Liquidor (i=_Liquido@port227.ds1-sg.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 12:28.34 | Elkano | Mikma, good to see that the code added to Compost because of sth noticed with ebb finaly found an evil addon ^^ |
| 12:28.39 | nevcairiel | heh, compost is fun if you use it wrong |
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| 12:29.13 | NA|Liquidor | Question: How should I use table.insert() in order to get the follow structure? |
| 12:29.14 | NA|Liquidor | Healers = { |
| 12:29.14 | NA|Liquidor | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.14 | NA|Liquidor | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.14 | NA|Liquidor | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.14 | NA|Liquidor | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.16 | NA|Liquidor | } |
| 12:29.26 | Wobin | You can't |
| 12:29.36 | Wobin | table.insert is only for non-hashtables |
| 12:29.38 | NA|Liquidor | Any other way then? |
| 12:29.43 | NA|Liquidor | Okay, how should I do it then? |
| 12:29.58 | Health | Like that? |
| 12:30.10 | Wobin | pretty much |
| 12:30.29 | nevcairiel | do Healers["Liquidor"] = { Class = "Priest", Level = "60" } |
| 12:30.32 | NA|Liquidor | I can't type the data prefixed since it has to scan the raid |
| 12:30.41 | Elkano | well, do as you posted ^^ |
| 12:30.51 | NA|Liquidor | Elkano, read above |
| 12:30.57 | NA|Liquidor | Thanks nevcairiel, I'll give it a go |
| 12:31.17 | Wobin | O.O |
| 12:31.17 | Wobin | http://www.manzer.com/more.tmpl?cmd=search&db=lmodels.db&var2=lmodels.db&var3=Custom%20Design&wfskudata=2931-15 |
| 12:31.18 | Wobin | wtf? |
| 12:31.20 | Wobin | tf? |
| 12:31.25 | nevcairiel | you wont be able to do getn or other great table functions, but hey, thats hash tables :P |
| 12:31.43 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 12:32.06 | Elkano | Healers[name]= {} / Healers[name].Class = class / Healers[name].Level = level (where name, class and level hold the data) |
| 12:32.12 | Wobin | SPECIAL FEATURES |
| 12:32.12 | Mikma | well, i have no idea what's wrong with XAD and compost |
| 12:32.12 | Wobin | Four necks. Two sound holes. Two access doors; one on the upper player's side and one atthe tail block. ( based on a panel door design by the brilliant -Abraham Wechter) |
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| 12:32.52 | NA|Liquidor | No need for that nevcairiel since I just need a temp database |
| 12:33.18 | NA|Liquidor | Healers = nil to clear the table aight? |
| 12:33.23 | Elkano | Wobin: will there ba an ace2ed ReverseEngenering? (does it make sense at all?) and will FuXPFu's graphical glitches be fixed? (the sparcle on the reputation bar when you show both bars) |
| 12:33.35 | nevcairiel | you should use compost, or with lots of temp tables you get overhead |
| 12:33.39 | Wobin | Yeah, I've been trying to fix that damn spark |
| 12:33.44 | Wobin | but textures grief me so =( |
| 12:34.05 | Elkano | NA|Liquidor, basicaly right but until we get lua5.1 you should use compost as nevcairiel said |
| 12:34.09 | Wobin | As for RevEng, if anyone wants to Deuce it... |
| 12:34.13 | *** join/#wowace revv (n=Miranda@205.174.173.142) |
| 12:34.23 | Elkano | wobin, try to set it's frame level higher |
| 12:34.36 | NA|Liquidor | well I only got that table so it shouldn't be a prob. on the other hand what is compost? |
| 12:34.41 | Wobin | hm |
| 12:34.47 | Wobin | I might set the norep bar lower |
| 12:35.24 | *** part/#wowace Mery (i=metelman@p54AEF4FA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:35.42 | Elkano | compost recycles unused tables in order to not have them garbagecollected |
| 12:36.12 | Elkano | so you'll get less garbage and thus gc is happening less often |
| 12:36.42 | NA|Liquidor | ok |
| 12:37.41 | Wobin | Elkano: can you test atm? |
| 12:38.16 | Wobin | Chutney |
| 12:38.18 | Elkano | nope, sorry :( still having to clean up my addons dir |
| 12:38.20 | Wobin | It's such a great word |
| 12:38.33 | Wobin | although... |
| 12:38.43 | Wobin | Isn't a plum chutney sandwich a bit over the top? =P |
| 12:39.00 | Skyboat | Elkano: are you planning on converting more of your addons' code to Ace2? |
| 12:39.00 | *** join/#wowace DaNET24030 (n=WinNT@130.212.150.25) |
| 12:39.06 | DarkImakuni | its delicious |
| 12:39.18 | Mikma | DELICIOSO! |
| 12:39.27 | Mikma | dum di dum |
| 12:39.39 | Mikma | updating all addons now so i can start messing with them |
| 12:40.07 | Mikma | the funny thing is... XAD doesn't even use compost at all |
| 12:40.14 | Elkano | Skyboat, well ItemDB is somewhat scheduled, FramesResized has no need and most other don't need an ace2 rebuild either |
| 12:40.27 | Mikma | just look at the externals on that one :P |
| 12:40.42 | Mikma | it has 200 externals and i wonder that are all of them needed |
| 12:40.44 | Wobin | Elkano: Well, just to remove the Ace dependancy, I guess |
| 12:40.57 | Skyboat | ever thought of using Gratuity to get tooltip info instead of making your own XML? |
| 12:41.14 | Elkano | ebb2 does that already ^^ |
| 12:41.29 | Skyboat | ah right :) |
| 12:41.34 | Wobin | I need a todo list |
| 12:41.49 | Wobin | Does google have one? |
| 12:42.07 | Mikma | now i wonder would AceSchedule do the trick instead of Metrognome in XAD too |
| 12:42.17 | Wobin | probably |
| 12:42.27 | Wobin | I have to shift over some stuff to that |
| 12:42.30 | nevcairiel | its AceEvent :x |
| 12:42.32 | Wobin | (isn't it aceevent?) |
| 12:42.45 | nevcairiel | and yes, it does everything metro does |
| 12:45.35 | eternally777 | Spell icon names aren't localized, correct? |
| 12:46.12 | vhaarr | right |
| 12:48.08 | Wobin | http://www.rememberthemilk.com/home/wobin/406166/ |
| 12:48.13 | Wobin | What have I forgotten? |
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| 12:48.37 | Mikma | Wobin: moo |
| 12:49.20 | vhaarr | Wobin: Trunking MrPlow Ace2. |
| 12:49.44 | nevcairiel | rememberthemilk, haha |
| 12:49.48 | DarkImakuni | Wobin: it's past your bedtime :P |
| 12:50.00 | Wobin | Wot? |
| 12:50.05 | Wobin | it's only 10 to 11 =P |
| 12:50.23 | DarkImakuni | I'm normally in bed by then :P |
| 12:51.16 | Wobin | Can anyone test a FuXPFu bugfix? |
| 12:51.31 | phyber | meh. I made a change to MoneyFu so that it uses AceEvent for the timing, instead of also loading Metrognome. |
| 12:51.40 | phyber | meant to do it a while ago, what you said just reminded me :) |
| 12:52.06 | DarkImakuni | ~karma CIA-11 |
| 12:52.06 | purl | cia-11 has neutral karma |
| 12:52.10 | DarkImakuni | doh |
| 12:54.20 | Mikma | [Ammo]: lawl i made my wife to be a betatester for PinPoint |
| 12:54.57 | steino | oO |
| 12:55.12 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r12828 10FuBar_MoneyFu/MoneyFu.lua: |
| 12:55.12 | CIA-11 | MoneyFu: |
| 12:55.12 | CIA-11 | - Use AceEvent for repeating event instead of Metrognome. No point in having two embeds that are capable of timing. Not yet tested but should be fine. |
| 12:55.28 | *** join/#wowace sciophobia (n=aweiss@bflo.corp.synacor.com) |
| 12:55.40 | DarkImakuni | ~whalecrit CIA-11 |
| 12:55.48 | purl | ACTION crits CIA-11 with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. CIA-11 dies |
| 12:55.48 | Wobin | fear of scios? |
| 12:55.48 | Thrae | Yawn, yawn. |
| 12:56.17 | DarkImakuni | morning Thrae :) |
| 12:56.22 | Mikma | Thrae: FIX SVNBOT |
| 12:56.24 | sciophobia | fear of shadows :-P |
| 12:56.25 | [Ammo] | Mikma: haha |
| 12:56.28 | Mikma | !toc XAD |
| 12:56.31 | SVNBot | ERROR: Cannot find ./svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/XAD! Maybe you need to use !trunk first? |
| 12:56.33 | Mikma | doing |
| 12:57.10 | Mikma | [Ammo]: she didn't get the texture on map moment ago, GatherSage was enabled..Small Thorium Vein. now she's trying without GS and Large vein |
| 12:57.34 | Thrae | !trunk XAD |
| 12:57.35 | Mikma | [Ammo]: ok GatherSage is messing up the tooltip so that means the scan won't complete :D |
| 12:57.39 | SVNBot | You can already find the latest revision of XAD at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/XAD/ |
| 12:57.46 | Thrae | !toc XAD |
| 12:57.49 | SVNBot | ERROR: Cannot find ./svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/XAD! Maybe you need to use !trunk first? |
| 12:58.02 | Mikma | Thrae: svn.wowace.com/root/trunk -> svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk |
| 12:58.19 | sciophobia | heh, I don't actually fear shadows, it was my rogues name back in the day |
| 12:58.26 | Thrae | Mikma: ./ <-- local directory on my computer |
| 12:58.42 | Mikma | Thrae: ouch! xD |
| 12:58.59 | [Ammo] | Mikma: Small Thorium Vein isn't in the list |
| 12:59.09 | Mikma | [Ammo]: lol so no wonder then :) |
| 12:59.13 | [Ammo] | Mikma: I think I messed that up :) |
| 12:59.21 | [Ammo] | I have Thorium Vein and Large Thorium Vein |
| 12:59.41 | [Ammo] | what are the options for thorium veins / deposits |
| 12:59.52 | Wobin | small and large I think |
| 12:59.53 | vhaarr | phyber: also remove the metrognome external then |
| 12:59.58 | Wobin | er |
| 13:00.00 | Wobin | rich |
| 13:00.03 | Wobin | small and rich |
| 13:00.05 | DarkImakuni | ooze covered |
| 13:00.08 | Wobin | and ooze |
| 13:00.09 | Wobin | yeah |
| 13:00.18 | [Ammo] | ooze covered is only in instance? |
| 13:00.19 | Thrae | !toc TinyTip |
| 13:00.22 | [Ammo] | so doesn't matter |
| 13:00.22 | SVNBot | ERROR: Cannot find ./svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/TinyTip! Maybe you need to use !trunk first? |
| 13:00.22 | Wobin | nah |
| 13:00.25 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 13:00.26 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 13:00.27 | Wobin | it's outside too |
| 13:00.30 | nevcairiel | ooze is in sili as well |
| 13:00.30 | [Ammo] | grrr |
| 13:00.30 | Thrae | Hmmmm. |
| 13:00.32 | Wobin | in ungoro I've seen it |
| 13:00.33 | DarkImakuni | ooze covered in Un'Goro |
| 13:00.34 | Wobin | silithid |
| 13:00.34 | haste | where? |
| 13:00.37 | haste | oh |
| 13:00.38 | [Ammo] | Ooze Covered Rich Thorium possible? |
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| 13:00.44 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight__] by ChanServ |
| 13:00.47 | [Ammo] | Ooze Covered Small Thorium? |
| 13:00.50 | Wobin | Maybe in silithus? I've not seen it yet |
| 13:01.00 | sciophobia | they have them in Feralas too in the insect part |
| 13:01.01 | nevcairiel | Ooze Covered Rich Thorium Vein |
| 13:01.07 | Gngsk | no, the small variety is just OOze Covered Throium Vein |
| 13:01.08 | nevcairiel | Ooze Covered Mithril Deposit |
| 13:01.09 | [Ammo] | ok |
| 13:01.14 | nevcairiel | Ooze Covered Gold Vein |
| 13:01.17 | [Ammo] | argh Mithril to |
| 13:01.17 | nevcairiel | and so on |
| 13:01.18 | [Ammo] | and gold |
| 13:01.23 | Health | You can be Ooze. |
| 13:01.30 | [Ammo] | ok I'm going to cut support for GatherSage |
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| 13:01.40 | nevcairiel | truesilver snd silver as well |
| 13:01.40 | [Ammo] | I was using a certain regexp for a reason |
| 13:01.40 | nevcairiel | btw |
| 13:01.43 | Mikma | [Ammo]: boo :P well i deleted it already |
| 13:01.49 | phyber | wtf is all the "CAMERON" stuff that's going on in US WoW General forum? |
| 13:01.50 | Gngsk | ammo, here's the list http://www.wowhead.com/?search=ooze+covered#z0z |
| 13:02.12 | Wobin | hoho |
| 13:02.14 | Wobin | z0z |
| 13:02.32 | DarkImakuni | Cameron is a work colleague of mine... o_O |
| 13:03.22 | Mikma | [Ammo]: well aren't you glad i 'forced' my wife to betatest it |
| 13:03.41 | DarkImakuni | ~hug Mikma's wife |
| 13:03.54 | purl | ACTION hugs Mikma's wife |
| 13:03.54 | Mikma | was like: "hey honey, wanna try this gatherer replacement" 'Hell yes!' |
| 13:03.54 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 13:04.16 | [Ammo] | I could do a string.gsub( somestring, '(number)', '' ) |
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| 13:04.19 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 13:04.20 | [Ammo] | to remove the gathersage crap |
| 13:04.30 | Mikma | [Ammo]: true that |
| 13:04.44 | Mikma | gathersage only adds the skill needed to "farm" the item |
| 13:04.52 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 13:04.58 | Mikma | and a line what will pop up from the vein etc |
| 13:05.07 | [Ammo] | bah |
| 13:05.16 | Mikma | and, colors the text to the color can you farm it or not |
| 13:05.17 | [Ammo] | well gathersage will break gatherer as well |
| 13:05.18 | [Ammo] | afaik |
| 13:05.31 | Mikma | zomg hahaa |
| 13:06.24 | Mikma | [Ammo]: so a question. eventho you can't mine something and rightclick it, will the pos be saved? |
| 13:06.43 | [Ammo] | Mikma: euhm, it should check the UI_ERROR and get the tooltip |
| 13:06.48 | [Ammo] | so yeah |
| 13:06.53 | [Ammo] | but ... |
| 13:06.55 | [Ammo] | there is aproblem |
| 13:06.58 | Mikma | well, i need to test that out somehow |
| 13:07.03 | [Ammo] | when the error appears the tooltip is temporarily cleared :) |
| 13:07.09 | Mikma | maybe i'll run my bubbledin to somewhere |
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| 13:07.22 | [Ammo] | Mikma: just get a character without herbalism and walk it up to a herb |
| 13:07.24 | [Ammo] | and try and herb it |
| 13:07.26 | Mikma | [Ammo]: hook hook hooooook |
| 13:07.34 | Mikma | [Ammo]: will do, uno momento |
| 13:08.32 | [Ammo] | ~slap CIA-11 |
| 13:08.37 | purl | ACTION slaps CIA-11, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 13:08.37 | [Ammo] | slow bot :p |
| 13:08.56 | Mikma | i take that as a update |
| 13:09.00 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 13:09.05 | [Ammo] | killed off suport for gathersage |
| 13:09.09 | [Ammo] | and added small thorium |
| 13:09.17 | Mikma | whee banzaialert error :D |
| 13:09.41 | nevcairiel | ammo you can remove thorium tho, there is only small and rich |
| 13:10.39 | [Ammo] | Ooze Covered Thorium Vein |
| 13:10.50 | [Ammo] | ignore the Ooze Covered, now what is left? |
| 13:10.54 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 13:11.17 | Mikk | Fwiw, Gatherer manages to map nodes that you can't harvest. I always click stuff I come across with any of my chars and it maps them nicely. |
| 13:11.21 | nevcairiel | some funny mineral i cant even mine |
| 13:11.22 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:12.07 | Mikma | [Ammo]: you know what would rock... sorting of professions / not showing items you can't use |
| 13:12.53 | [Ammo] | this should work for gathersage: what = string.gsub( what, " %(%d+%)", "" ) |
| 13:12.56 | [Ammo] | I think |
| 13:13.06 | Mikma | [Ammo]: wan't me to test it? |
| 13:13.08 | [Ammo] | it should replace " (150)" with "" right? |
| 13:13.17 | JoshBorke | Morning |
| 13:13.29 | [Ammo] | comitted mikma |
| 13:13.33 | [Ammo] | update and test with gathersage :) |
| 13:14.02 | Mikma | i need to download it then :D |
| 13:14.05 | oxman | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/epanalyze-alpha.php |
| 13:14.08 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 13:14.43 | [Ammo] | Mikk: PinPoint should map them nicely as well, but I think TinyTip is messing me over |
| 13:14.45 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 13:16.40 | Mikma | rofl nice, there was some weird sound coming from outside and me + cat jumped infront of window to look wtf that was |
| 13:16.41 | oxman | hum |
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| 13:16.56 | oxman | the mana value in tooltips for priest spell is right ? according to talent, stuff etc ? |
| 13:17.00 | phyber | picture of cat required. |
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| 13:17.32 | nevcairiel | ss or it didnt happen. |
| 13:17.33 | Mikma | phyber: http://irc-galleria.net/view.php?nick=Mikma&image_id=1418585 |
| 13:17.38 | Mikma | sorry for the poor quality |
| 13:17.42 | vhaarr | pokes |
| 13:18.01 | nevcairiel | CIA-11 seems to be overloaded |
| 13:18.06 | nevcairiel | mails work fine |
| 13:18.11 | phyber | Mikma: cool :D |
| 13:18.28 | Thrae | TinyTip shouldn't give you problems when you mouse over something like a mineral vein unless you enable "Anchor Always". Otherwise, it does nothing to stuff like mineral veins, which are from the game engine directly without spawning an event. |
| 13:18.32 | oxman | the mana value in tooltips for priest spell is right ? according to talent, stuff etc ? |
| 13:18.43 | Mikma | !toc Prat |
| 13:18.45 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: can you add a toggle to disable stickyframes ? i hate it when they sticky too early |
| 13:18.46 | SVNBot | ERROR: Cannot find ./svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Prat! Maybe you need to use !trunk first? |
| 13:18.59 | [Ammo] | Thrae: I mean it gets hidden temporarily when you get a UI_ERROR_MESSAGE |
| 13:19.03 | [Ammo] | and probably gets cleared then |
| 13:19.04 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: just don't load the library? |
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| 13:19.10 | [Ammo] | which means I can't read the contents of the hidden gametooltip |
| 13:19.16 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: but i might want it for another addon :D |
| 13:19.24 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: gaaah |
| 13:19.25 | vhaarr | no |
| 13:19.27 | vhaarr | ;) |
| 13:19.37 | Thrae | [Ammo]: When GameTooltip is hidden, its contents get cleared. That's part of the way GameTooltip works. |
| 13:20.15 | Mikma | vhaarr: sorry i fixed BanzaiAlert's externals ;) |
| 13:20.21 | vhaarr | Mikma: thanks |
| 13:20.43 | [Ammo] | Thrae: I'll test some more |
| 13:20.44 | Thrae | [Ammo]: I've found with stuff like mineral veins, you need to use OnTooltipCleared or an OnUpdate script, since there's no event spawned. |
| 13:21.22 | Thrae | [Ammo]: Look at the psuedo code on wowwiki about GameTooltip if you want to know more about a tooltip's internals (well, theoretically) |
| 13:21.40 | oxman | THANK YOU FOR HELP ME ! |
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| 13:21.59 | [Ammo] | Thrae: the only thing I do is get the textleft1 of the gametooltip when I get a UI_ERROR_MESSAGE |
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| 13:22.17 | [Ammo] | which should work, and used to work |
| 13:22.33 | [Ammo] | but I'll test some more |
| 13:22.42 | Thrae | It used to work before you enabled TinyTip? |
| 13:23.01 | Tekkub | THrae... can ya get SVNBot updating wiki pages again? |
| 13:23.07 | Mikma | :D |
| 13:23.24 | [Ammo] | Thrae: I think it used to work, but that's why I said I need more testing |
| 13:23.28 | Thrae | Tekkub: After work |
| 13:23.48 | Tekkub | ammo, Tem and I think you just move BW's core modules into a LoD addon also, and have it activate on first zonein with the others... BW proper would basically just be a LoD stub |
| 13:23.58 | Tekkub | Thrae, kk ^^ |
| 13:24.23 | Mikma | [Ammo]: my wife said that pinpoint won't show all textures on map, rangecheck? |
| 13:24.56 | Thrae | Where the heck is "Pylesville"...isn't "Piles" also known as Hemaraoids? |
| 13:25.16 | oxman | the mana value in tooltips for priest spell is right ? according to talent, stuff etc ? |
| 13:25.41 | Thrae | oxman: It's -supposed- to be. |
| 13:25.49 | oxman | hum ? |
| 13:25.55 | nevcairiel | Tekkub: i changed BW and oRA2 to LoD and S&D and they are still loaded by fubar, how could i avoid that ? and only load them on raid for example ? |
| 13:25.58 | oxman | You're not sur ? Or sometimes it is and sometimes not ? |
| 13:25.59 | [Ammo] | Tekkub: it's being worked on |
| 13:26.10 | oxman | don't use fubar nevcairiel ^^ |
| 13:26.12 | Thrae | oxman: Unless Blizzard made an error, then it's correct. |
| 13:26.16 | [Ammo] | Mikma: it should show textures |
| 13:26.20 | oxman | ok thanks Thrae |
| 13:26.21 | [Ammo] | Mikma: at least it does dfor me |
| 13:26.41 | Tekkub | XRS was forcing my oRA2 to load I think |
| 13:26.52 | Tekkub | not sure on BW, you got dependant plugins loading too? |
| 13:27.00 | nevcairiel | XRS was fine, that didnt load |
| 13:27.18 | nevcairiel | mhm |
| 13:27.28 | nevcairiel | bah, BW_HBA prolly loaded BW |
| 13:27.34 | nevcairiel | but dunno about oRA |
| 13:27.54 | Tekkub | BW prolly has a dep |
| 13:28.12 | Mikma | [Ammo]: ok i'm at vein. rightclicking it without skill and with GatherSage loaded. nothing happens |
| 13:28.32 | [Ammo] | Mikma: probably because the 'what' is empty |
| 13:28.48 | [Ammo] | open mining.lua and check the RegisterOreFromTooltip() function |
| 13:28.56 | [Ammo] | add some self:Print( 'blah' ) etc |
| 13:29.01 | [Ammo] | and see what the stuff says |
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| 13:32.20 | Mikma | [Ammo]: i get nothing |
| 13:32.52 | Mikma | and this time i don't have gathersage loaded |
| 13:33.06 | [Ammo] | 'nothing' ? |
| 13:33.23 | [Ammo] | same problem I guess, textleft1 is empty |
| 13:33.23 | Mikma | [Ammo]: i mean nothing printed in chat |
| 13:33.35 | Tekkub | oh ammo, trac is up |
| 13:33.52 | Tekkub | I don't know if kael's gonna get flyspry up enough we can close out bugs there |
| 13:33.54 | [Ammo] | trac sucks balls, but what's the url? |
| 13:34.05 | Tekkub | I've been pestering him about shit but he's been busy I tihnk |
| 13:34.17 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/trac |
| 13:34.25 | Mikma | Tekkub: can you fix some links in www.wowace.com? |
| 13:34.45 | Tekkub | I hope he'll get FS up enough we can close out the tickets there this weekend |
| 13:34.47 | [Ammo] | can we please use something proper? |
| 13:34.51 | [Ammo] | trac is useless |
| 13:34.52 | Tekkub | no Mikma |
| 13:35.08 | Mikma | oh they seem to be fixed already anyway :D |
| 13:35.09 | [Ammo] | at least flyspray had clear categories and an easy overview |
| 13:35.09 | Tekkub | I've told him, the forum sidebar is about 3 weeks out of date |
| 13:35.12 | Tekkub | the wiki is fine |
| 13:35.36 | Tekkub | ammo, don't bitch at me, I have no control over the server |
| 13:35.54 | [Ammo] | I'm not bitching at you |
| 13:35.58 | Tekkub | anyway, gotta shower and go to work, laters |
| 13:36.00 | [Ammo] | I'm just trying to see if people think the same :) |
| 13:36.10 | vhaarr | bugzilla please |
| 13:36.36 | nevcairiel | bugzilla is great |
| 13:37.47 | Mikma | [Ammo]: so, is there anything i can do now? |
| 13:37.54 | [Ammo] | Mikma: nop |
| 13:38.02 | [Ammo] | pray I find time to do some more testing / fixing |
| 13:38.27 | haste | really fun that the week I have LOST of free time, I don't have a graphic card :( |
| 13:38.33 | Iceroth | please no bugzilla, nooooooooo |
| 13:38.41 | Fritti | bugzilla.vote++ |
| 13:38.41 | Wobin | nightynight |
| 13:38.54 | Angeris | xad gives me errors with this new food/drink outside If :p |
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| 13:39.17 | Mikma | Angeris: it's propably not listed in PT |
| 13:39.24 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r12829 10FuBar_MoneyFu/ (Libs/ MoneyFu.lua): |
| 13:39.24 | CIA-11 | MoneyFu: |
| 13:39.25 | CIA-11 | - Removed Metrognome external. |
| 13:39.27 | CIA-11 | - Removed commented metrognome code. |
| 13:39.36 | Angeris | i guess so,no bigggie |
| 13:39.53 | Mikma | but XAD gives me errors anyway so i don't mind :D |
| 13:40.05 | Angeris | i only get errors with my alts |
| 13:40.12 | Angeris | works fine with my main |
| 13:40.14 | Angeris | wierd |
| 13:40.19 | eternally777 | What's the difference between the "hidden" and "disabled" fields of an AceOptions Table? |
| 13:40.37 | [Ammo] | disabled -> grayed out in console and dewdrop |
| 13:40.48 | [Ammo] | hidden -> totally not visible, aka not there |
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| 13:41.11 | eternally777 | kk, ty |
| 13:41.12 | clad | Can someone load up that version of PerfectRaid and makes it doesn't error, and that you can toggle the paladin buff indicators? |
| 13:41.15 | nevcairiel | good morning clad |
| 13:41.25 | clad | i can't do any debugging from work, and wowbench won't load PerfectRaid =( |
| 13:41.48 | clad | Just shoot me an email if ytou run into any issues, or fix em and commit them =) |
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| 13:41.54 | Health | hej clad! |
| 13:42.04 | clad | gotta run folks =), you know how to find me. |
| 13:42.14 | Health | bye clad! |
| 13:43.01 | sciophobia | i wish i had more time to help develop :( |
| 13:43.24 | sciophobia | between school, work, and playing WoW im already running like 19 hours a day |
| 13:44.19 | phyber | wow, that's one lagged CIA bot. |
| 13:44.26 | phyber | I committed that maybe 30-45 mins ago? :o |
| 13:44.51 | nevcairiel | yeah, must be a busy day for the poor cia |
| 13:45.34 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r12830 10PinPoint/Collect/Mining.lua: |
| 13:45.34 | CIA-11 | PinPoint: |
| 13:45.34 | CIA-11 | * added small thorium |
| 13:45.35 | CIA-11 | * killed off support for gathersage in favor of ooze covered stuff |
| 13:45.42 | [Ammo] | oooh slow cia |
| 13:46.01 | sciophobia | lol |
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| 13:47.18 | sciophobia | so im guessing PinPoint is the Gatherer replacement? |
| 13:47.22 | clad | hrm. |
| 13:47.29 | nevcairiel | hrm. |
| 13:47.34 | sciophobia | hrm. |
| 13:47.59 | haste | hrm. |
| 13:48.04 | [Ammo] | hrm. |
| 13:48.11 | [Ammo] | sciophobia: yes |
| 13:48.25 | Mikma | clad: oh that is the way to find you! k! |
| 13:48.30 | sciophobia | nice, I'll have to check it out after work |
| 13:48.48 | eternally777 | I like how when you go to "http://dev.wowace.com" in a web browser, you get a blank page with a hyperlink that says "Click Here." You should change that to "If you're over the age of 18, click here." |
| 13:49.06 | sciophobia | i got half my guild to convert to Ace2 addons last night, I was pumped |
| 13:49.08 | clad | Mikma: Whats the way to find me? |
| 13:49.11 | clad | hrm |
| 13:49.18 | Mikma | clad: waiting for you to join here |
| 13:49.19 | clad | lol |
| 13:49.27 | clad | Mikma: You can ALWAYS googletalk me. |
| 13:49.39 | clad | but i REALLY need someone to test perfectraid for me. |
| 13:49.39 | Mikma | true that |
| 13:49.50 | Mikma | test how |
| 13:49.55 | [Ammo] | I can't atm clad, am at work, I'm using Mikma's wife for testing |
| 13:49.59 | [Ammo] | maybe you can use her as well? |
| 13:50.08 | DarkImakuni_AFK | eternally777: perhaps it should be more like "if your mental IQ is higher than fossilized dino turd then click here" :) |
| 13:50.08 | sciophobia | that sounds so bad |
| 13:50.21 | Mikma | yeah i can make a small raid with her but we can't do anything :P |
| 13:50.33 | clad | that's it. |
| 13:50.33 | clad | Mikma: no, just login |
| 13:50.44 | clad | make sure it works, test /praid buff on the paladin buffs. |
| 13:50.44 | eternally777 | DarkImakuni_AFK: lol |
| 13:51.02 | Mikma | wtb paladin :P |
| 13:51.04 | clad | whether or not they display doesn't matter ot me.. just want to make sure it doesn't break. |
| 13:51.08 | clad | you dont need a paladin to test |
| 13:51.15 | Mikma | oh ok |
| 13:51.24 | Mikma | i'll just recheckout pr and invite her in raid |
| 13:51.28 | clad | just login with the latest commit = |
| 13:51.30 | clad | heh |
| 13:51.31 | clad | ok |
| 13:52.35 | NA|Liquidor | Guys I don't get it. I keep getting an error telling me "attempt to call method 'OnEvent' (a nil value)" and I don't know what's causing it |
| 13:52.56 | NA|Liquidor | And saying it is on line 2 doesn't help me at all :-/ |
| 13:52.59 | Fritti | install BugSack |
| 13:53.05 | Fritti | it'll show you more info |
| 13:53.28 | malreth | line 2 of what file, NA|Liquidor? |
| 13:53.42 | NA|Liquidor | doesn't say |
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| 13:54.04 | malreth | ... >_> |
| 13:54.22 | NA|Liquidor | [string: "AddonFrame:OnEvent"]:2: attempt to call method 'OnEvent' (a nil value) |
| 13:54.33 | NA|Liquidor | This only happens when I register events |
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| 13:55.02 | malreth | ah... you have an XML file for your Addon? |
| 13:55.23 | NA|Liquidor | ye |
| 13:55.23 | Mikma | clad: juuust a small little error, i fixed it and will retest login |
| 13:55.34 | malreth | if so, check line 2 of your <OnEvent> section </OnEvent> |
| 13:56.47 | NA|Liquidor | There's only Addon:OnEvent(event) in that section |
| 13:57.05 | Fritti | apparently that method doesn't exist yet? |
| 13:57.14 | malreth | yep |
| 13:57.16 | [Ammo] | NA|Liquidor: learn to use AceEvent :) |
| 13:57.32 | [Ammo] | Ace handles all the nitty gritty of those things for you |
| 13:57.33 | NA|Liquidor | I don't use Ace.. yet |
| 13:57.45 | malreth | apparently, by the time your <OnEvent> handler is called, Addon:OnEvent() does not exist |
| 13:57.47 | NA|Liquidor | I need to learn a lot more lua before I can handle ace |
| 13:58.08 | [Ammo] | euhm, but Ace is well documented and has excellent examples in the SVN |
| 13:58.14 | NA|Liquidor | The thing is that everytime a registered event occurs it comes with an error |
| 13:58.16 | Fritti | most of the time Ace makes things way easier |
| 13:58.21 | [Ammo] | it'll greatly improve the speed at which you can start coding actual functionality |
| 13:58.25 | malreth | NA|Liquidor: that's not surprising |
| 13:58.26 | vhaarr | You don't need to learn Lua at all, just learn Ace. |
| 13:58.32 | [Ammo] | because you don't need to worry about things like <OnEvent></OnEvent> |
| 13:58.44 | [Ammo] | you just do: self:RegisterEvent("ZOMG_BALLS") |
| 13:58.50 | NA|Liquidor | I know |
| 13:58.50 | malreth | where is Addon:OnEvent() defined? |
| 13:59.12 | NA|Liquidor | in the connected lua file |
| 13:59.25 | malreth | is it declared local? |
| 13:59.53 | NA|Liquidor | nope |
| 14:00.02 | malreth | is the Addon table object declared local? |
| 14:00.10 | NA|Liquidor | no |
| 14:00.18 | Fritti | can you pastebin that .lua? |
| 14:00.24 | malreth | can you post your .lua file in the pasty? |
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| 14:00.27 | Fritti | or at least the interesting parts |
| 14:00.38 | malreth | yes, pastebin it, please |
| 14:00.47 | malreth | wasn't a link in the topic? |
| 14:01.01 | NA|Liquidor | pastebin link is gone :) |
| 14:01.03 | NA|Liquidor | gief |
| 14:01.05 | nevcairiel | ace.pastey.net |
| 14:01.18 | Thrae | NA|Liquidor: Do you add your lua file in the toc file, or with <Script> in the XML file? |
| 14:01.20 | NA|Liquidor | http://ace.pastey.net |
| 14:01.27 | NA|Liquidor | script |
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| 14:06.09 | haste | for? |
| 14:06.17 | malreth | NA|Liquidor |
| 14:06.21 | nevcairiel | the pastebining |
| 14:06.22 | NA|Liquidor | ye? |
| 14:07.12 | malreth | wondering if you're gonna pastebin your lua code |
| 14:08.09 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r12832 10PinPoint/Collect/Mining.lua: |
| 14:08.09 | CIA-11 | PinPoint: |
| 14:08.09 | CIA-11 | * test this mikma |
| 14:08.20 | Mikma | ~whip CIA-11 |
| 14:08.25 | Mikma | slowas |
| 14:08.28 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 14:08.46 | Mikma | soon we will see my 2 commits for BanzaiAlert too |
| 14:09.05 | Thiana | SVN is up to 12839, slow is an understatement. |
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| 14:10.04 | NA|Liquidor | http://ace.pastey.net/1281 |
| 14:10.14 | notMusic | Thiana, may I PM you? |
| 14:10.31 | Thiana | Yes... |
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| 14:10.50 | Flamouria | Who was it that worked on ag_uf portraits? Kemayo? |
| 14:11.04 | NA|Liquidor | malreth, see anything wrong? |
| 14:11.12 | malreth | looking |
| 14:11.38 | Thrae | < CIA-11> turan * r2 Ace/Ace.lua: Added new project, Ace 0.8. Hopefully we'll be soon for a release! |
| 14:11.44 | NA|Liquidor | It's a bit odd looking but didn't take time to place it better :) |
| 14:11.47 | XLVII | what is pinpoint? |
| 14:11.49 | malreth | don't see anything out of the ordinary... |
| 14:11.56 | Thiana | XLVII: Gatherer replacement. |
| 14:12.11 | XLVII | oh good! |
| 14:12.14 | Health | Is Turan still alive? |
| 14:12.14 | XLVII | i need one of them.. |
| 14:12.22 | XLVII | thanks |
| 14:13.34 | [Ammo] | PinPoint is heavy alpha be warned |
| 14:13.45 | malreth | well, it's not that file... mind posting your XML file as well? |
| 14:13.46 | [Ammo] | blatant errors can be reported feature requests will be binned |
| 14:14.00 | malreth | actually |
| 14:14.09 | malreth | check your Logs/FrameXML.log |
| 14:14.17 | Thrae | [Ammo]: Does PinPoint do notes on the map, or just Gatherer replacement? |
| 14:14.27 | notMusic | Thiana, one sec :( I've been messaging you but I need to register, just saw the error :P |
| 14:14.50 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12834 10BanzaiAlert/libs/: BanzaiAlert: fixing missing AceHook external |
| 14:14.51 | [Ammo] | Thrae: it will do notes after I finish the Herbalism, Mining modules and the 2 display modules worldmap and minimap |
| 14:14.58 | [Ammo] | I will also add 'static' points |
| 14:15.02 | [Ammo] | like the felwood locations |
| 14:15.16 | NA|Liquidor | arh thanks malreth |
| 14:15.24 | [Ammo] | Thrae: but it's far from done :) |
| 14:15.25 | Thiana | notMusic: Ah ok |
| 14:15.27 | malreth | ah... was the problem there? |
| 14:15.32 | [Ammo] | right now it works fine for Herbalism on the WorldMap |
| 14:15.33 | Thrae | Awww, I need a good MapNotes replacement. CTMapMod is less buggy, but doesn't have /mntloc. |
| 14:15.59 | Thrae | My family is making me level up a new character on a new server and I need /mntloc for quests. |
| 14:16.10 | NA|Liquidor | malreth, how often does the framexml.log update? |
| 14:16.12 | XLVII | your family? lol.. |
| 14:16.26 | malreth | it is updated once after addons load |
| 14:16.34 | Thrae | My Mom and little brother play WoW, more then I do. My Mom plays about 2-3 hours per day. |
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| 14:16.52 | malreth | at least once per ui load or reload, i believe |
| 14:16.54 | XLVII | i see |
| 14:17.23 | malreth | i don't know the exact details, but it's always a good idea to check FrameXML.log if you have an XML file in your addon |
| 14:17.24 | [Ammo] | what is /mntloc |
| 14:18.10 | Thrae | [Ammo]: Puts a note at /mntloc x,y |
| 14:18.16 | NA|Liquidor | malreth, no there isn't any relation to what it logs there and the error I get |
| 14:18.26 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 14:18.31 | malreth | eh... |
| 14:18.33 | [Ammo] | Thrae: PinPoint will have that functionality |
| 14:18.46 | Thrae | I don't even need an actual message, just a "quick note" or whatever |
| 14:18.53 | Thrae | Nor something on the minimap, just the World Map |
| 14:19.00 | malreth | Actually, i'm not an addon developer. I was just getting a Bud Light. |
| 14:19.04 | Thrae | [Ammo]: Yeah, but by that time I'll probably be sick of WoW again ;) |
| 14:19.06 | NA|Liquidor | malreth the thing that bothers me is that all the other methods are working, just not onevent |
| 14:19.10 | [Ammo] | something like: /pinpoint manual set xx.xx yy.yy |
| 14:19.20 | [Ammo] | maybe with a shorthand :) |
| 14:19.25 | [Ammo] | but that's what it'll be in the console anyway |
| 14:19.27 | Thrae | haha, I hope so |
| 14:19.37 | [Ammo] | something like /pms :) |
| 14:19.39 | Mikma | 2 more commits from me coming up lol |
| 14:19.47 | malreth | ok... so i take it you still haven't found the problem then, NA|Liquidor? |
| 14:19.53 | NA|Liquidor | no |
| 14:20.10 | malreth | ok... pastey up the XML file, please |
| 14:20.22 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.21 | Health | hot. |
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| 14:23.46 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12835 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.toc: BanzaiAlert: AceHook added to .toc |
| 14:24.37 | Thrae | My next addon will be called "Perfect Organized Retinkered Noob", just so you have to do /porn for console commands. |
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| 14:25.49 | CapnBry | Oh snap, I like how the commit messages go to the irc channel |
| 14:26.10 | [Ammo] | they're around one hour late atm though |
| 14:26.13 | [Ammo] | CIA seems swamped |
| 14:27.18 | CapnBry | How's that happen? Lots of commits, or does CIA have a bot day job too? |
| 14:27.33 | nevcairiel | dunno |
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| 14:28.45 | Mikk | Thrae: put in a smart parser for pinpoint so it'll understand e.g. /pinpoint xxx.xxx yyy.yyy comment string here |
| 14:28.56 | Amadeo | Anyone know the URL to the WatchDog wiki? |
| 14:29.13 | XLVII | night |
| 14:29.22 | [Ammo] | Mikk: thrae is not pinpoints author I am :p |
| 14:29.30 | Mikk | my bad |
| 14:29.37 | [Ammo] | Mikk: and if aceconsole can handle it, I can handle it |
| 14:29.42 | Mikk | oh |
| 14:29.50 | JoshBorke | alright, what am i doing with svnsync? |
| 14:29.52 | Mikk | Well.. aceconsole would have to be able to handle regex matches then |
| 14:30.10 | [Ammo] | Mikk: or I can do what I did with oRA and add shorthands :) |
| 14:30.20 | [Ammo] | I don't lock myself in with libs |
| 14:30.37 | [Ammo] | made my life a lot easier |
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| 14:32.44 | Saroz | SVN just crashed? |
| 14:33.12 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 14:34.03 | JoshBorke | blah! my svnsync isn't working :-( unrecognized url scheme |
| 14:34.21 | nevcairiel | clad should setup a faq |
| 14:34.32 | nevcairiel | or even better, full blown tut |
| 14:34.34 | Saroz | meh |
| 14:34.39 | Saroz | my damn daily update broke |
| 14:38.20 | Mikma | c'mon CIA-11 ! only 5 commits to go |
| 14:39.02 | nevcairiel | we are up to 43 on the svn |
| 14:39.05 | nevcairiel | so 8 commits |
| 14:40.36 | Saroz | what are we counting down to |
| 14:40.47 | [Ammo] | CIA is 8 commits behind :) |
| 14:40.50 | Mikma | Saroz: end of the world .swf |
| 14:40.52 | [Ammo] | we're urging it to gogogo |
| 14:41.09 | Mikma | oh btw CorkFu has a lovely feature ... |
| 14:41.17 | Mikma | it reminds me of Trinket in WPL :D |
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| 14:44.47 | cordac | ckknight: you there? |
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| 14:45.39 | Mikma | cordac: the great eye is always watching |
| 14:46.00 | cordac | just wanted to say, about the ItemBonuses bug we talked about the other day, that its fixable by downloading the "new" bonusscanner |
| 14:46.06 | cordac | hehe |
| 14:47.29 | eternally777 | Executable fields of AceOption tables don't have the capability to be "hidden"? |
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| 14:47.33 | cordac | anyways.. could someone just report that.. or whatevery you do with this kind of info |
| 14:48.33 | Saroz | ffs |
| 14:48.33 | Saroz | Error: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/12845' |
| 14:48.38 | Saroz | I keep getting these errors |
| 14:48.45 | Mikma | Saroz: re-checkout |
| 14:48.51 | Mikma | that helps for my errors |
| 14:48.55 | Saroz | it's on random folders |
| 14:49.02 | Mikma | i know |
| 14:49.11 | Saroz | It's trying to pull a revision which isnt up |
| 14:49.12 | Baraius | Cordac: What was the bug? |
| 14:49.26 | Saroz | ah shit |
| 14:49.34 | Saroz | it's because someone comitted while I was updating |
| 14:49.38 | Mikma | Saroz: oh sorry i meant to say re-update not re-checkout |
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| 14:51.45 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r12836 10PerfectRaid/ (4 files): PerfectRaid: Added preliminary support for Paladin buffs |
| 14:51.55 | Mikma | lol gg CIA-11 |
| 14:51.59 | oxman | ARG ! |
| 14:52.01 | oxman | PALADIN ! |
| 14:52.05 | JoshBorke | <3 |
| 14:52.07 | Mikma | oxman: stfu noobie |
| 14:52.16 | oxman | Satan get out from cladhaire's corp !!! |
| 14:52.33 | oxman | paladin ftl |
| 14:52.34 | oxman | =p |
| 14:52.39 | Mikma | paladin is fun |
| 14:52.45 | oxman | yep |
| 14:52.47 | Mikma | atleast when in raid as priest ... |
| 14:52.51 | oxman | paladin is fun for the lose |
| 14:52.52 | oxman | xD |
| 14:53.13 | [Ammo] | Mikma; oxman is french, the only thing he understands is "pain et vin" anything outside that box does not register |
| 14:53.28 | oxman | "Bordeau" :) |
| 14:53.39 | Mikma | [Ammo]: touché ! |
| 14:53.42 | KrteK | lol |
| 14:53.49 | Mikma | eau de toilette! |
| 14:53.50 | oxman | Ok, I keep my vin :'p |
| 14:54.08 | oxman | "vin de paille" |
| 14:54.08 | oxman | :') |
| 14:55.13 | Thiana | SVK command rm -rf /netfs/wow/pluto/Interface/AddOns/ on depot /remote/ failed with exit code 1: *twitches* |
| 14:56.50 | Mikma | and the same to here |
| 14:57.07 | [Ammo] | :) |
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| 14:57.37 | Mikma | lol i tried to fix my mistake |
| 14:57.41 | Mikma | did i manage [Ammo] ? ;) |
| 14:58.00 | JoshBorke | you know, this new svnsync is pretty new |
| 14:58.19 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 14:58.50 | [Ammo] | some people just can't check options in a men |
| 14:58.52 | [Ammo] | menu |
| 14:59.02 | [Ammo] | I had yet another personal message about how to move the bigwigs bars |
| 14:59.33 | Iceroth | read icehud thread :-/ |
| 14:59.39 | Iceroth | ppl asking features that are already in |
| 14:59.46 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:59.49 | CapnBry | yeah I get asked that all the time in raids since I recommended it to our guild. Oh this is awesome. Damn you can't move the bars, this sucks! |
| 14:59.52 | Mikma | [Ammo]: bars can be MOVED? zomg |
| 14:59.56 | Flamouria | I have something to add to IceHUD which isn't in! |
| 15:00.10 | [Ammo] | I keep my replies real short and direct on those questsions |
| 15:00.25 | [Ammo] | usually in the style of: bigwigs -> plugins -> bars -> Anchor |
| 15:00.33 | [Ammo] | without signing or saying hello first :p |
| 15:00.42 | CapnBry | hahah |
| 15:00.44 | [Ammo] | usually get a rpely back: oops sorry for wasting your time |
| 15:00.57 | Galencia | well |
| 15:01.02 | Galencia | its hardly user friendly |
| 15:01.04 | Iceroth | Flamouria, shoot |
| 15:01.12 | CapnBry | That's ok, I get emails about bugs I've fixed in my stuff like 6 months prior |
| 15:01.18 | Galencia | developers should get out of anti user mentalities |
| 15:01.22 | [Ammo] | what isn't user friendly? |
| 15:01.32 | Galencia | that you have to go through so many non obvious menus to get to it |
| 15:01.32 | Mikma | Gngsk: you here? |
| 15:01.38 | [Ammo] | I mean in oRA2 you have to alt-drag to move the frames |
| 15:01.38 | Mikma | kergoth: or you, you here? :) |
| 15:01.40 | Iceroth | noobie doesn't understand the concept of plugin in that context |
| 15:01.42 | CapnBry | yes every menu item should be on the top level so users can find em |
| 15:01.43 | Galencia | if people cant find it, its your fault, not theirs |
| 15:01.48 | [Ammo] | and even that is not good enough |
| 15:01.51 | Flamouria | Iceroth, I kinda hacked myself a bar which shows my Slice and Dice Duration. And yes I know this belongs somewhere else, but it's very neat tbh :) |
| 15:02.34 | Iceroth | SnD is a buff? get elkbuffbar for neat bars for stuff like that :) |
| 15:02.55 | Flamouria | don't want buffs mega big on my screen :( |
| 15:03.28 | [Ammo] | Galencia: options like moving the bars are hardly important options, and there are _only_ 3 menu options in bigwigs |
| 15:03.37 | [Ammo] | 1 bosses which gives you a list of zones with bosses in them |
| 15:03.46 | [Ammo] | 2 plugins which has Bars Messages Colors etc as submenu items |
| 15:03.53 | [Ammo] | and 3 extras which has all the external modules in them |
| 15:03.56 | [Ammo] | it's not hard to find |
| 15:04.13 | [Ammo] | and hardly not user friendly |
| 15:04.14 | Galencia | the problem is every mod out there has its own way of doing things |
| 15:04.24 | Galencia | so to make things more complicated than they need to be adds to the problem |
| 15:04.26 | [Ammo] | now that I agree with |
| 15:04.38 | [Ammo] | but most people can use FuBar plugins |
| 15:04.44 | [Ammo] | and the menu's associated with them |
| 15:04.50 | Galencia | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.52 | Galencia | ive* |
| 15:04.52 | [Ammo] | since they're 'standard' |
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| 15:05.02 | Saroz | Stop committing! |
| 15:05.06 | Saroz | you are fucking up my updates :( |
| 15:05.12 | [Ammo] | Aquam: where in enschede do you live? :) |
| 15:05.24 | [Ammo] | <-- Boekelo :) |
| 15:05.25 | MentalPower|ZZzz | Saroz: lock your files |
| 15:06.03 | Galencia | yeah its not that it's overly complicated, just that some users will not(and some would argue should not) go into each and every menu option to find something they want |
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| 15:06.26 | Aquam | <- Boswinkel |
| 15:06.40 | [Ammo] | hehe small world :) |
| 15:06.48 | Galencia | i know im ranting a bit but user interfaces are something ive studied alot and feel quite strongly about :) |
| 15:06.50 | Aquam | it seems :) |
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| 15:07.31 | Elkano | I hate addons that use embedded libs but don't have these added to OptionalDeps :/ |
| 15:07.39 | [Ammo] | yarr elkano |
| 15:07.51 | JoshBorke | Elkano: how do the OptionalDeps help? |
| 15:08.00 | JoshBorke | just to make sure they get loaded after? |
| 15:08.10 | [Ammo] | yes so the lib is available |
| 15:08.19 | [Ammo] | and so you can disembed the libs |
| 15:08.27 | [Ammo] | should you choose to do so |
| 15:08.57 | Galencia | anyway someone go critique my first ever addon :p http://www.envyguild.org/AutoWCast.zip |
| 15:09.03 | Elkano | it also allows you to not rely on externals |
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| 15:09.48 | Xuerian | Galencia: And how exactly are we supposed to critique it? :) Or is it not purgatory^H^H^H^(etc) maintenance day somewhere? |
| 15:09.49 | JoshBorke | but for someone who doesn't have the libraries as a seperate addon you still have to include them embedded and load them before your addon |
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| 15:10.25 | Mikma | LOL haha neat <3 |
| 15:10.31 | [Ammo] | Galencia: check out SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 |
| 15:10.35 | Galencia | Xuerian: have a loot at the lua :) dont need to test it :) |
| 15:10.39 | Mikma | by little modding i managed to drop 8MB of UI mem off |
| 15:10.47 | Galencia | s/loot/look/ |
| 15:10.56 | Skyboat | no maintenance in Europe :) |
| 15:10.59 | [Ammo] | Galencia: you can do: SEEAURA:UnitHasBuff( "player", "Arcane Brilliance") or something similar |
| 15:10.59 | Xuerian | That's too obvious, so obviously, I never thought of it XD |
| 15:11.01 | Skyboat | not until tomorrow anyway |
| 15:11.07 | Elkano | well, for releases, embedded libs should ship with your addon, but as a developer (or for people getting stuff directly from svn) the other way is better |
| 15:11.10 | [Ammo] | Galencia: just read up on the lib on the wiki |
| 15:11.16 | Galencia | [Ammo]: doing so as we speak |
| 15:11.18 | Galencia | thanks for the pointer |
| 15:11.46 | [Ammo] | it can also do so for party members :) |
| 15:11.54 | [Ammo] | so you don't have to keep track of that stuff |
| 15:12.01 | Galencia | thats exactly the kind of critque im looking for, stuff in ace2 i can use that i havent already :) |
| 15:12.02 | Mikma | kergoth: thanks a bunch :) i managed to mod all addons i wanted |
| 15:12.36 | [Ammo] | Galencia: other than that I suggest adding some 'favorite' players that responded with the default whispercast reply |
| 15:12.42 | [Ammo] | so you just ask them first :) |
| 15:12.45 | [Ammo] | next time round |
| 15:12.59 | evl_ | ACK |
| 15:13.05 | evl_ | DamageMEters looks so fucking ugly |
| 15:13.20 | [Ammo] | SWstats ain't much better |
| 15:13.29 | Galencia | swstats is fugly imo |
| 15:13.29 | eternally777 | well, what do you want changed about them |
| 15:13.32 | [Ammo] | at least damagemeters has a clear UI |
| 15:13.41 | [Ammo] | swstats it's so hard to get it to show the info you want |
| 15:13.41 | eternally777 | DM & SW that is. |
| 15:13.44 | Galencia | damagemeters with bigwigs style bars would make my christmas |
| 15:13.52 | evl | I'd jiust like a cleaner inteface |
| 15:13.57 | eternally777 | Just change the texture, that's simple. |
| 15:13.58 | evl | oRA2/XRS style bars |
| 15:14.11 | eternally777 | evl: o.O explain |
| 15:14.25 | snurre- | there's some scale issues with the bars on ebb2 and ocb it seems |
| 15:14.26 | [Ammo] | he wants the texture changed to bantobar :p |
| 15:14.28 | evl | no border, no title |
| 15:14.30 | evl | bars, that's it |
| 15:14.33 | snurre- | sometimes some bars are smaller/larger than the others |
| 15:14.40 | [Ammo] | snurre-: hmm? |
| 15:14.48 | [Ammo] | snurre-: that might be a candybar issue |
| 15:14.49 | evl | I know it's DamageMEters so I don't need a 190x32 big blob saying DamageMters |
| 15:14.52 | [Ammo] | but I've never seen it |
| 15:14.56 | JoshBorke | Mikma: what'd you do? |
| 15:14.58 | snurre- | yeah, probably |
| 15:15.03 | snurre- | sec, lemme fetch a screenie |
| 15:15.12 | Mikma | JoshBorke: SuppleAndDemand & some .toc modifications |
| 15:15.29 | eternally777 | evl: That 190x32 blob is what allows you to control it. Its console commands are a mess, with practically no documentation |
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| 15:15.37 | [Ammo] | but.. there's little control over the scaling in WoW |
| 15:15.43 | evl | I know, waiting eagerly for EPGauge |
| 15:15.44 | [Ammo] | as in the result you get :) |
| 15:15.55 | evl | [Ammo]: have a look at XRS and fix the bar width, it's just 4-5 pixels difference and it's torture :D |
| 15:16.07 | [Ammo] | what bar width?! |
| 15:16.17 | eternally777 | haha |
| 15:16.21 | Mikma | JoshBorke: http://wow.reaktio.net/sad.txt |
| 15:16.22 | [Ammo] | XRS is moonsorrows addon |
| 15:16.28 | eternally777 | ~whalehug ammo |
| 15:16.30 | purl | ACTION Persuades a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh to hug ammo |
| 15:18.15 | Kebinusan | mikma nice changes |
| 15:18.26 | Kebinusan | you should commit them or something ;-) |
| 15:18.30 | evl | [Ammo]: oRA2 is 120 wide while XRS is 115 >< :D |
| 15:18.47 | [Ammo] | so? |
| 15:18.54 | JoshBorke | Mikma: only load those addons while in a raid? (Using Supply and Demand)? cool |
| 15:18.55 | [Ammo] | oRA2 will remain 120 for the time being |
| 15:18.56 | Mikma | Kebinusan: well i asked kergoth to commit them, but he had a good point. i'm not the original author of those addons so i can't do it |
| 15:19.16 | Mikma | JoshBorke: yes :) and those .tocs in that list also has ## LoadOnDemand: 1 in them |
| 15:19.19 | evl | [Ammo]: i "patched" *cough* XRS |
| 15:19.28 | snurre- | http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1867/wowscrnshot100306171249ff2.jpg <-- top left corner |
| 15:19.33 | [Ammo] | making BigWigs use S&D and oRA2 use S&D will make me bite your head off |
| 15:19.39 | Mikma | that's about all i did and got mem down from 19mb to 11.6mb at login |
| 15:19.45 | [Ammo] | I'm working on making them LoD |
| 15:19.46 | Mikma | after a while it jumps to 15mb |
| 15:19.48 | [Ammo] | but not using S&D |
| 15:19.57 | [Ammo] | I don't want the deps |
| 15:20.04 | eternally777 | [Ammo]: What he's trying to say is that it's killing him that he can't get the edges to line up :) |
| 15:20.07 | Kebinusan | yeah I just got up I forgot about the LoD part being needed |
| 15:20.20 | Mikma | [Ammo]: that's what kergoth propably thought so i'm not touching anything :) |
| 15:20.25 | [Ammo] | just worked hard to get rid of dependancies so I'm not going to add a new one |
| 15:20.51 | sciophobia | anyone know if Tem is still around, or if hes still working on QuickCompare? |
| 15:20.54 | [Ammo] | however cool SupplyAndDemand is, I am hesistant to make BigWigs depand on it |
| 15:20.56 | [Ammo] | depend |
| 15:20.59 | Mikma | [Ammo]: kergoth laughed his ass off when i said that he should make a embed S&D lol |
| 15:21.01 | sciophobia | err ItemCompare |
| 15:21.02 | snurre- | S&D should be optional |
| 15:21.11 | Kebinusan | Yeah |
| 15:21.17 | nevcairiel | the time() function in lua returns the "unix time" right? just checking :) |
| 15:21.22 | [Ammo] | snurre-: it can't be optional |
| 15:21.25 | snurre- | well |
| 15:21.32 | [Ammo] | snurre-: because LoadOnDemand: 1 won't make it load. |
| 15:21.43 | [Ammo] | if you don't have S&D |
| 15:21.55 | Mikma | snurre-: that's exactly what kergoth laughed ;) |
| 15:22.13 | Mikma | "yeah right, make a lod of lod addon" |
| 15:22.28 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: usually it returns the seconds since epoch (Jan 1, 1970) |
| 15:22.32 | snurre- | i feel it's a little hipocritical to work so much and make so many changes to addons in the past to get rid of dependancies, then add dependencies when you're "done(tm)" |
| 15:22.39 | snurre- | (no offense) |
| 15:22.45 | [Ammo] | snurre-: I think your problem has to do with me not setting a height on the text |
| 15:22.45 | eternally777 | Only hunters can use "Track ..." spells, right? No exceptions? Ever? |
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| 15:22.56 | JoshBorke | eternally777: Track Undead (paladin) |
| 15:22.56 | axxo | warlocks too |
| 15:23.06 | snurre- | [Ammo]: might be font size related yeah |
| 15:23.06 | [Ammo] | paladin and warlock to indeed |
| 15:23.10 | Mikma | eternally777: druid too |
| 15:23.12 | Kebinusan | warlocks have sense demons |
| 15:23.12 | nevcairiel | JoshBorke: thats what i meant, thanks, you wouldnt happen to know if there is a function to get milliseconds as well? |
| 15:23.15 | snurre- | most buffs are small, but a few are big |
| 15:23.15 | eternally777 | JoshBorke: Then what's "Sense Undead"? |
| 15:23.19 | sciophobia | its sense undead for pallies |
| 15:23.30 | Aquam | Druid can track humanoids when in cat |
| 15:23.32 | [Ammo] | snurre-: I'll see if I can fix it |
| 15:23.35 | eternally777 | Warlocks have "Sense Demons", not "Track" |
| 15:23.42 | eternally777 | Aquam: ok, thanks |
| 15:23.54 | CapnBry | also, any alchemist can make detect undead elixir |
| 15:24.04 | CapnBry | oh and demon too |
| 15:24.07 | snurre- | [Ammo]: sweet |
| 15:24.09 | [Ammo] | snurre-: font related I think it should cut off with ... |
| 15:24.15 | [Ammo] | snurre-: can't do much about that |
| 15:24.26 | malreth | eternally777: dwarves can track treasure |
| 15:24.27 | eternally777 | Alright... That blows that idea.. too many exceptions |
| 15:24.42 | Kebinusan | eternally777, no the potions dont activate like a track skill |
| 15:24.53 | Kebinusan | the only realy one besides hunters that are Track... is druid in cat form |
| 15:25.04 | [Ammo] | time for a beer grr |
| 15:25.09 | Kebinusan | The other class abilities are sense * |
| 15:25.59 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: GetTime() should return the system uptime in milliseconds |
| 15:26.20 | nevcairiel | how does the systemuptime help me ? :o |
| 15:26.24 | Mikma | didn't someone make Ace2 Mendeleev? |
| 15:26.35 | [Ammo] | Mikma: not yet |
| 15:26.36 | nevcairiel | my system isnt up since 1970 |
| 15:26.37 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:26.47 | [Ammo] | I should finish Necronomicon 2 |
| 15:26.48 | Mikma | [Ammo]: someone did start on it |
| 15:26.52 | [Ammo] | and recommend people Chronometer |
| 15:26.56 | [Ammo] | and be done with that shit |
| 15:27.10 | [Ammo] | too many requests for Necro Ace2 |
| 15:27.13 | JoshBorke | it probably doesn't :-P though you could syncronize the uptime to the epoch time by calculating when the system was booted then adding back the milliseconds |
| 15:27.31 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 15:27.35 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: also this: http://www.wowwiki.com/GameTime:Get |
| 15:27.37 | nevcairiel | seconds will be enough for the time being |
| 15:27.43 | Thiana | Mikma: Yes, it's in branches. I just need to finish the locale stuff, but its identical on enUS clients. |
| 15:27.51 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r12840 10oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: |
| 15:27.51 | CIA-11 | oRA2: |
| 15:27.51 | CIA-11 | * Optional toggling of the backdrop |
| 15:27.51 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 15:27.52 | nevcairiel | nice |
| 15:27.53 | CIA-11 | * Optional toggling of highlighting your target |
| 15:28.15 | Mikma | Thiana: where in branches? |
| 15:28.26 | Thiana | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.40 | Mikma | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Mendeleev/ |
| 15:28.42 | Mikma | call me blind |
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| 15:28.51 | Mikma | lol reload worked |
| 15:29.04 | Mikma | there was only elkano's and neronix's branches |
| 15:29.24 | MoonWolf | what does the branch do ? |
| 15:29.29 | Mikma | MoonWolf: ace2 |
| 15:29.37 | MoonWolf | ah |
| 15:29.40 | MoonWolf | that part is easy |
| 15:29.51 | MoonWolf | grab the framework in slash and apply it to mendy |
| 15:29.55 | Elkano | still waiting for mine to become merged ^^ |
| 15:29.57 | Mikma | well that's what people have asked :D |
| 15:29.59 | Thiana | MoonWolf: Yes, but you were taking forever to do it :) |
| 15:30.10 | Mikma | exactly :D |
| 15:30.18 | snurre- | how do you lock ebb2 btw? |
| 15:30.20 | MoonWolf | well, I want to do other stuff, like work in 3 patches of items. |
| 15:30.26 | snurre- | it's not shown in deucecommander |
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| 15:31.02 | Elkano | snurre-, you can't yet, but it should only move while holding down alt |
| 15:31.03 | Thiana | MoonWolf: r1770 (orig r1769): moonwolf | 2006-05-13 14:07:11 -0400 |
| 15:31.43 | MoonWolf | okay so maybe not 3 patches |
| 15:31.45 | MoonWolf | but 2 at least. |
| 15:32.18 | Thiana | MoonWolf: So start on it then :) I'd be *more* than happy if you'd do the Ace2/Locale stuff and update it semi-regularly ;) |
| 15:32.32 | Mikma | noeeeees! enchancedlootframes uses ace1 |
| 15:32.59 | MoonWolf | but I am kinda pround that mendy is still working though |
| 15:33.29 | Thiana | Apart from the fact that it uses Ace1, why wouldnt it? |
| 15:33.33 | Mikma | Thiana: first error for ya :) |
| 15:33.44 | Thiana | Mikma: Hmm? |
| 15:34.02 | Mikma | Thiana: MendeleevCats.lua:349: Babble-Boss-2.0: Translation "Kurinnaxx" does not exist :) |
| 15:34.25 | Thiana | Uh, what locale are you? |
| 15:34.28 | Mikma | en |
| 15:34.38 | Thiana | Upgrade your babblelib |
| 15:34.48 | Mikma | ain't it in externals? |
| 15:34.55 | Thiana | Oh, nm. I never committed that change. Sec |
| 15:35.00 | Mikma | :D |
| 15:35.25 | Thiana | Mikma: k, check out Babble again :) |
| 15:35.31 | MoonWolf | btw, [Ammo] about that necronomicon 2, please ? |
| 15:37.24 | Mikma | Thiana: PT error :) FeedomaticPlugin.lua:2: attempt to index global 'AceAddon' (a nil value) |
| 15:37.46 | Mikma | Thiana: and, this is pointing into Interface\AddOns\PeriodicTable |
| 15:37.55 | [Ammo] | MoonWolf: as soon as you fix me a Mendeleev 2 :p |
| 15:38.13 | Mikma | :D |
| 15:38.21 | MoonWolf | I'll merge Thiana's branch to trunk and update stuff this weeked agreed ? |
| 15:38.32 | [Ammo] | agree |
| 15:38.33 | Thiana | k :) |
| 15:38.39 | Mikma | gz everyone! |
| 15:38.43 | Mikma | we have Mend2 |
| 15:38.52 | Thiana | Mikma: That would be Tek's dept anyway. Thats PT not Mendeleev |
| 15:38.55 | Mikma | except i wan't this error to be gone |
| 15:38.59 | [Ammo] | I'll see if I can have a working Necro 2 (without timers, use chronometer) next week |
| 15:39.04 | [Ammo] | still some kinks to be fixed |
| 15:39.14 | Mikma | Thiana: yeah, it still uses ace1 lol |
| 15:39.47 | Thiana | Wonder why that's being used in PT anyway. I thought PT was standalone. |
| 15:39.50 | Mikma | so Tekkub, fix PT to ace2 |
| 15:40.05 | Mikma | yeah i thought so too |
| 15:40.25 | Mikma | well anyway, i might be the problem this time |
| 15:40.36 | Mikma | i need to disable PeriodicTable since it can be embedded |
| 15:41.19 | Thiana | Looks like Tek is using Ace1 in that addon just so he can hook 'FOM_Feed' |
| 15:41.23 | Mikma | Bingo! |
| 15:41.29 | Mikma | no errors and Mend2 :) |
| 15:41.38 | DarkImakuni | http://www.rememberthemilk.com/home/darkimakuni/591709/ lets see... what else have I forgotten... |
| 15:41.40 | Mikma | i just disabled the PeriodicTable addon i got loaded |
| 15:42.19 | Elkano | ok, it looks like I got my UI working again with as little externals as possible (eg FuBar-compat-1.2 still uses old libs which won't load standalone; neither does Babble-2.1) |
| 15:42.54 | [FH]Birdemani | you been working on that all morning elk? |
| 15:42.55 | Thiana | Elkano: Did it make a different for mem used or load time? |
| 15:43.04 | [FH]Birdemani | yea, i was curious on that as well |
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| 15:43.40 | [Ammo] | Thiana: loadtime and initial mem should be affected, after that nothing |
| 15:43.54 | Elkano | well, Birdemani, I had to recheckout everything anyways because of the svn changes ^^ |
| 15:43.58 | [Ammo] | stuff gets GC'd and no extra mem should be used |
| 15:44.03 | Thiana | [Ammo]: I know, but thats theory :) Hence asking :) |
| 15:44.27 | Mikma | Elkano: with, or without !!!Libraries ? |
| 15:44.31 | Elkano | ammo, I'm not 100% sure about local vars in libs, but they shouldn't take that much mem |
| 15:44.37 | Elkano | without |
| 15:44.44 | Mikma | Elkano: then how did you do it? |
| 15:45.07 | Elkano | wouldn't work for me anyways since !-dirs seem to load last for me for some reason |
| 15:45.16 | oxman | any new about ekbb_ace2 ? :p |
| 15:45.17 | Mikma | linux? |
| 15:45.21 | Elkano | simply checked out all libs I use as standalone |
| 15:45.27 | Elkano | nope fat32 |
| 15:46.02 | Mikma | Elkano: so they all have .toc in to load them? |
| 15:46.43 | Elkano | yes, but the tocs will neither load Babble-2.1 nor the non-ace2'ed libs anymore |
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| 15:47.14 | mjc | blah |
| 15:47.16 | Mikma | Elkano: so that's no use then :P |
| 15:47.18 | Thiana | On AceLocale/BabbleLib 2.0/2.1, was it ever actually resolved which one we should be using? |
| 15:47.33 | Mikma | Thiana: nope |
| 15:47.40 | Thiana | Lovely :/ |
| 15:48.08 | [FH]Birdemani | so the only performance gain is on the SVN and nothing ingame |
| 15:48.27 | mjc | kergoth: 1700 csets to go to be synced with your repo :P |
| 15:48.36 | Elkano | well, their problems were resolved and I'm going to stick with 2.0 (or 2.2 when it comes since they wanted to merge again iirc) |
| 15:48.57 | JoshBorke | [FH]Birdemani: there's a slight gain to removing embedded libs and using a single optional dep in that lua does not have to resolve which version should be loaded during login |
| 15:49.16 | Elkano | well, no external checkouts if you keep the standalone libs up2date and a bit faster logging into char |
| 15:49.20 | mjc | it has to load them all, check all the versions, and unload them all |
| 15:49.33 | mjc | except one |
| 15:49.34 | mjc | :P |
| 15:49.46 | Galencia | if all your ace addons have different ace libraries in them, the newer one will always be used throughout, right? |
| 15:49.51 | [FH]Birdemani | my login is 24 seconds currently with 70 mods loading |
| 15:50.09 | mjc | holy crap lol |
| 15:50.10 | mjc | slow |
| 15:50.19 | Elkano | slow? :( |
| 15:50.33 | mjc | I have like 140 loading and it takes maybe 8 seconds on my laptop |
| 15:50.37 | JoshBorke | i wait 2 minutes to load ::-( |
| 15:50.46 | [FH]Birdemani | Ive been triming alot of mods the last week but the major ones I still need |
| 15:50.47 | mjc | brb, food |
| 15:50.53 | nevcairiel | Mhm, thank god for compost, my newest addon creates one new table for every combat event. |
| 15:51.09 | JoshBorke | and because you're using compost it's ok? |
| 15:51.27 | Elkano | mine takes about 1min :/ |
| 15:51.28 | JoshBorke | even though you just shifted it from being memory heavy to computational heavy? |
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| 15:51.47 | nevcairiel | the tables are lost all over again, and re-used with compost |
| 15:51.48 | [FH]Birdemani | I've only used warmup a few times just to time the loadin and occasionally will put teksupport in to watch it during a raid. I run pretty lean with as much as I have actually |
| 15:51.53 | Mikma | clad: is the thing wil AL2.0/2.1 solved? |
| 15:51.58 | clad | is ANYONE receiving forum and wiki notifications? |
| 15:52.00 | Mikma | wil=with wtf /slap |
| 15:52.02 | clad | Mikma: huh? |
| 15:52.20 | Mikma | clad: people wan't to know which one to use :) |
| 15:52.44 | clad | well id ont have anything to do with that |
| 15:52.46 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: everytime you release a table back to compost it has to iterate through the table and nil out all the entries. |
| 15:53.21 | nevcairiel | JoshBorke: there is no better way storing data tho. i need to store the output of every event parserlib throws at me in some way for statistical brakedown. |
| 15:53.46 | clad | So manually handle it. |
| 15:53.55 | clad | reuse a local table. |
| 15:54.05 | JoshBorke | anyway, class time, tata for now |
| 15:54.11 | clad | rather, reuse a number of tables |
| 15:54.15 | Mikma | ~dps |
| 15:54.22 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, dps is Display Postscript, a special variant of Postscript used as a display protocol (Solaris uses this for example, that's why the fonts look better on Solaris Netscape) |
| 15:54.22 | clad | depending on the application. |
| 15:54.30 | clad | HAS ANYONE BEEN RECEIVING FORUM OR WIKI NOTIFICATIONS? |
| 15:54.31 | FtH|eagle | what whas the link to the svn information on google groups? |
| 15:54.40 | Iceroth | clad, thanks for mailing that guy who did 'things' to icehud, he turned out to be a totally different dude than the one who had contacted me earlier |
| 15:54.41 | DarkImakuni | clad: no |
| 15:54.43 | Mikma | clad: email or forum? |
| 15:55.00 | nevcairiel | FtH|eagle: http://groups.google.com/group/wowace |
| 15:55.02 | clad | email, that sthe only kind of notifications that are available. |
| 15:55.05 | clad | Iceroth: good =) |
| 15:55.09 | Mikma | clad: nope |
| 15:55.10 | FtH|eagle | thx |
| 15:55.13 | clad | damn.. email seems screwed =( |
| 15:55.22 | DarkImakuni | clad: the only notifications I recieve are WoWAce Google Group and Trac rss feed updates |
| 15:55.22 | clad | STILL =( |
| 15:55.29 | clad | aye |
| 15:55.35 | Baraius | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:55.39 | clad | i bet its a matter of misconfiguration on the forum and wiki |
| 15:55.41 | clad | bah |
| 15:55.58 | Mikma | clad: is the mailserver running *gigglez* |
| 15:56.04 | clad | yeah it is. |
| 15:56.17 | FISKER_Q | reroll windows server |
| 15:56.18 | FISKER_Q | :/ |
| 15:56.27 | DarkImakuni | ~wake CIA-11 |
| 15:56.28 | purl | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on CIA-11 and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 15:56.28 | Mikma | eh ewwwwwwwww wtf |
| 15:56.34 | Mikma | FISKER_Q: stop it FISTER_Q! |
| 15:56.39 | FISKER_Q | nooo |
| 15:57.51 | clad | haha i just got an email from the forums |
| 15:57.55 | clad | maybe its just crazy backlogged O.o |
| 15:58.00 | clad | ok.. gotta run |
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| 16:03.14 | Industrial | sergio here? |
| 16:03.16 | Industrial | damnit |
| 16:05.32 | Gemski | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8hfK3RQs2g |
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| 16:06.32 | mjc | FISKER_Q: windows is a fucking hunk of shit |
| 16:06.45 | mjc | ~whalestab FISKER_Q |
| 16:06.46 | purl | ACTION stabs FISKER_Q with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 16:06.56 | FtH|eagle | seems like group sort is broken in the latest release of perfectraid |
| 16:07.35 | KrteK | Gemski, :D |
| 16:07.50 | Industrial | Gemski: look at him |
| 16:07.53 | Gemski | hehe |
| 16:07.56 | Mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5398-Cirk's_Eventlogger.html |
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| 16:08.12 | Industrial | Gemski: what a nerd |
| 16:08.30 | CapnBry | how so 10FtH|eagle01? |
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| 16:08.46 | Gemski | i love that he plays 16 hours a day |
| 16:08.56 | Mikma | kergoth would just LOVE if he would be here ;) |
| 16:08.59 | Gemski | but still uses ubrs shield |
| 16:09.05 | Gemski | ubrs* |
| 16:09.09 | FtH|eagle | it's sorted by class without a seperator |
| 16:09.27 | FtH|eagle | but not the same order, druids are at the very top -_- |
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| 16:09.43 | Industrial | Gemski: yah lol |
| 16:09.45 | CapnBry | hmm odd. I'll look at it once the servers come back from Purgatory |
| 16:09.50 | mjc | druids own you |
| 16:09.54 | CapnBry | because it was working for me ast night |
| 16:10.03 | Industrial | and he plays loladin |
| 16:10.10 | neale | ewww |
| 16:10.23 | FtH|eagle | as I said, only in the latest versions ;) it worked last night for me too |
| 16:10.25 | mjc | loladins are getting tauntz0r |
| 16:10.34 | Industrial | people that get addicted suck at life |
| 16:10.47 | Industrial | people that shoot other people because of video games, suck at life |
| 16:10.51 | FISKER_Q | ah thanks mjc |
| 16:11.04 | Industrial | get real, loosers :D |
| 16:11.10 | [Ammo] | Mikma: that eventlogger looks a lot like Transcriptor |
| 16:11.14 | Mikma | people that are like Industrial suck at life :D |
| 16:11.39 | Gemski | i like this comment |
| 16:11.42 | Gemski | "They should've have just based the story on the mother's bad parenting and on how she keeps paying for his subscription instead of buying him a new door." |
| 16:11.42 | Industrial | Mikma: Am I ging to answer you? |
| 16:11.51 | Mikma | [Ammo]: yes it does but the only difference is seems like eventlogger doesn't log the whole fightm, only 1 event per each |
| 16:11.56 | Mikma | Industrial: you already did |
| 16:12.12 | Industrial | Mikma: not thatperticular statement |
| 16:12.29 | Mikma | it's an answer anyway ;) |
| 16:12.35 | Industrial | w/e |
| 16:12.48 | Industrial | oh shi.. |
| 16:12.52 | Mikma | cba cba! |
| 16:13.01 | Industrial | ;P |
| 16:13.04 | [Ammo] | Mikma: not very useful |
| 16:13.27 | CapnBry | FtH|eagle, you may want to back down to r12749, clad is adding rosterlib support and I dont think it is done yet |
| 16:13.30 | Gemski | half of the comments in reply to this video make fun of his gear |
| 16:13.34 | Gemski | i bet he kills himself now |
| 16:13.35 | Mikma | [Ammo]: depends on the situation... as far as i can understand, that's used only to find out what spell is what event |
| 16:13.49 | Industrial | lol Gemski ;D |
| 16:13.50 | [Ammo] | Mikma: but if it only logs 1 event... |
| 16:13.58 | FtH|eagle | CapnBry: Nah, not an important raid tonight, I will use class sort for now :P |
| 16:13.59 | [Ammo] | and there are multiple spells using that same event |
| 16:14.02 | [Ammo] | you're fucked :p |
| 16:14.19 | Mikma | [Ammo]: well did you check out the descriotion of the addon? might be a better explainer than i am |
| 16:14.27 | [Ammo] | I am checking it |
| 16:14.39 | CapnBry | But how will you know which group buffs to use? Oh no! |
| 16:14.41 | [Ammo] | and it shows events and patterns inside those events |
| 16:14.57 | mjc | ~whaleparry PerfectRaid |
| 16:14.59 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry PerfectRaid's attacks. |
| 16:15.11 | Mikma | [Ammo]: yeah. meaning you wan't to know what event is lifetap. then you enable that mod and do a lifetap |
| 16:15.11 | [Ammo] | the pattern part is interesting but not something we use in BigWigs for instance anyway, so transcriptor is still superior :) |
| 16:15.17 | [Ammo] | true |
| 16:15.23 | Mikma | it records it and shows you the event that is fired when you lifetap |
| 16:15.34 | FtH|eagle | CapnBry: Playing a shaman, so I don't care ;) |
| 16:15.49 | Mikma | transcriptor is superb on recording the whole fight yes :) |
| 16:15.54 | CapnBry | FtH|eagle: lol (shakes fist) |
| 16:16.43 | Mikma | i'll just have to test that eventlogger now, too interested |
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| 16:18.17 | mjc | ~roulette |
| 16:18.18 | purl | ACTION watches mjc pull the trigger: Click! |
| 16:18.21 | Mikma | [Ammo]: doing a dummytest to see what event PW:S is |
| 16:18.24 | Mikma | ~tryme |
| 16:18.25 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. Click. |
| 16:18.25 | Mikma | bang |
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| 16:19.49 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r12847 10BabbleLib/BabbleLib-2.1/Babble-Spell-2.1/Babble-Spell-2.1.lua: |
| 16:19.50 | CIA-11 | BabbleLib-2.1: |
| 16:19.50 | CIA-11 | * Babble-Spell-2.1: Added icon for "Find Herbs". |
| 16:20.09 | Mikma | ["CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS"] = { ["AURAADDEDSELFHELPFUL"] = "You gain Power Word: Shield.", } |
| 16:20.28 | Mikma | ["CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_DAMAGE"] = { ["AURAADDEDSELFHARMFUL"] = "You are afflicted by Weakened Soul.", } |
| 16:20.35 | mjc | LOL |
| 16:20.54 | Mikma | so does exactly what it should do :) |
| 16:21.07 | Mikma | ["POWERGAINOTHEROTHER"] = "Fluffy gains 35 Happiness from Ablar's Feed Pet Effect.", |
| 16:21.10 | Mikma | heh |
| 16:22.08 | CIA-11 | 03thiana * r12850 10BabbleLib/Babble-Boss-2.0/Babble-Boss-2.0.lua: Babble-Boss-2.0: Added Kurinnaxx |
| 16:22.10 | CIA-11 | 03tazmanyak * r12851 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (CooldownLocals.lua CoreLocals.lua): Fubar_tcgTradeskills - reworked fr localization |
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| 16:26.31 | CIA-11 | 03thiana 07Thiana * r12852 10Sheppard/libs/: Sheppard: Removed ^libs/ on externals since they're on libs/ itself now. |
| 16:26.51 | mjc | Thiana: <3 your sheppard. :) |
| 16:27.04 | Mikma | !info Sheppard |
| 16:27.12 | [Ammo] | it's tekkubs :p |
| 16:27.13 | [Ammo] | afaik |
| 16:27.18 | mjc | thiana ace2'd it |
| 16:27.27 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 16:27.39 | [Ammo] | I just digged up my Necro2 code |
| 16:27.50 | [Ammo] | shouldn't be too much work to get it finished |
| 16:28.12 | mjc | ammo: integrate it into sprocket ;P |
| 16:28.17 | [Ammo] | no |
| 16:28.23 | [Ammo] | I tried sprocket and however nifty it is |
| 16:28.29 | [Ammo] | it just misses stuff |
| 16:28.33 | mjc | like what |
| 16:28.37 | neale | it only misses what you don't put in it |
| 16:28.43 | [Ammo] | the minimap sprocket button for instance |
| 16:28.45 | [Ammo] | I like that one |
| 16:28.46 | CIA-11 | 03iceroth * r12854 10IceHUD/ (IceBarElement.lua IceUnitBar.lua): IceHUD: Changed frame stratas back to where they should have been all the time |
| 16:28.48 | [Ammo] | but why can't I make more of those? |
| 16:28.52 | [Ammo] | that I can place around my screen |
| 16:29.10 | Thiana | [Ammo]: Actually, it's mine now. |
| 16:29.10 | mjc | ammo: good idea, I'll hack that up after the rapy tonight |
| 16:29.14 | Mikma | oh christ |
| 16:29.19 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 16:29.24 | Mikma | do i have to edit all .toc's if i remove the libraries? |
| 16:29.25 | mjc | Iceroth: it'd be nice if icehud's config showed up in DeuceCommander. |
| 16:29.26 | [Ammo] | thiana: ok ) |
| 16:29.31 | [Ammo] | no mikma |
| 16:29.35 | [Ammo] | specifically not |
| 16:30.04 | Galencia | whats this necro2 that everyone is whining about? |
| 16:30.10 | Mikma | [Ammo]: well i deleted Libs and libs -folders from my addons and installed teh !!!Libraries |
| 16:30.18 | neale | whining? |
| 16:30.27 | Galencia | i use the term loosely and non offensively :p |
| 16:30.43 | Mikma | Galencia: ERROR! |
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| 16:31.31 | Mikma | oh lol |
| 16:31.33 | Galencia | s/whining/going on about/ :p |
| 16:31.43 | [FH]Birdemani | could you use sproket as a complete action frame replacement? |
| 16:31.50 | Iceroth | mjc, they kinda do :) |
| 16:31.58 | Iceroth | you can click the item :) |
| 16:31.58 | Mikma | [Ammo]: might not work so well because i also managed to del the libs from !!!Libraries :D |
| 16:34.02 | Xuerian | LoL! Mikma, you win the game :P |
| 16:34.31 | Xuerian | [FH]Birdemani: You could, though you'd probably want to leave bar 1 filled if not shown, for hotkeys =P |
| 16:34.34 | Skyboat | I recommend renaming !!!Libraries to something shorter, like !!!Libs, if you are using addons that make use of CandyBar |
| 16:35.44 | Mikma | Skyboat: how come? |
| 16:36.40 | Skyboat | pathname is too long for bar.tga to load |
| 16:37.14 | Mikma | well change it :) |
| 16:37.54 | Skyboat | I did, works fine :p |
| 16:38.23 | Mikma | Skyboat: but change the path in SVN too then |
| 16:38.33 | [Ammo] | I recommend nukeing !!!libraries |
| 16:38.46 | [Ammo] | it's a bloody hack for people who don't know WTF to do, and ask stupid questions |
| 16:38.52 | Mikma | let's rename it AAAAAAllInOne |
| 16:39.21 | Mikma | [Ammo]: bloody hack? I just switched to it :P |
| 16:39.24 | Mikma | and i'm still testing |
| 16:39.30 | oxman | remove !!!libraries |
| 16:39.42 | Mikma | kickban oxman |
| 16:39.48 | kergoth | heh, i never used !!!libraries, but i did add all the seperate addons for all the libs the addons in my set use, at least temporarily, just to try to see the real ram usage with warmup :P |
| 16:40.09 | sciophobia | i just use libraries to avoid downloading the externals on all my addons |
| 16:40.18 | Skyboat | I did too, then I realised it takes a lot less time to update an addon via the SVN without externals |
| 16:40.25 | sciophobia | exactly |
| 16:40.25 | Mikma | kergoth: thanks, your tips got my mem down line 8mb on login. :) |
| 16:40.27 | Skyboat | so win-win situation :) |
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| 16:40.33 | kergoth | Mikma: hahah, nice |
| 16:40.39 | kergoth | thank tek, S&D kicks ass |
| 16:40.40 | oxman | so its a good idea |
| 16:40.42 | Arrowmaster | personally i have my own zLibraries mod thats just a toc file with LoadWith: Ace2 and a bunch of OptionalDeps: to load standalone libraries since some people seem to forget to add them to their own toc's |
| 16:40.53 | Mikma | kergoth: from 19mb to 11mb. after a short time it will jump to 14-15mb for some reason |
| 16:41.41 | Skyboat | mine hovers between 22-27, but then I have 89 addon folders |
| 16:42.10 | sciophobia | man i have like 60-70mb at all times |
| 16:42.21 | Arrowmaster | 50mb |
| 16:42.45 | sciophobia | gotta kill that theory craft and such, its killin me |
| 16:42.55 | Mikma | woo! no errors |
| 16:43.10 | Mikma | 9.527 ... |
| 16:43.13 | Mikma | not bad :) |
| 16:43.20 | Arrowmaster | crap i think i still have theorycraft enabled |
| 16:43.40 | sciophobia | yea i use it for like one thing, and only when I change gear |
| 16:47.53 | sciophobia | i should really just stop using it |
| 16:47.53 | Skyboat | I can do without TC, if you use a spell enough times you know what the average output is anyway, heh |
| 16:47.53 | sciophobia | exactly |
| 16:47.53 | Mikma | i should rewrite my ButtonNamer now :D |
| 16:47.53 | sciophobia | just when i change gear i like to see it for a while |
| 16:47.53 | Arrowmaster | i was using it to compare what it said to my own calculations inside tinypad |
| 16:47.53 | kergoth | i'm at like 30 megs at login right now.. course i've got a shitload of addons that arent in the set that i'm trying out, and a bunch that i dont need loaded on certain characters... getting there |
| 16:47.53 | Gemski | Anyone know of a mod to remove the chatframe tabs? |
| 16:47.53 | Galencia | hmm |
| 16:47.54 | Galencia | new xad is kinda broken |
| 16:47.54 | Skyboat | I wouldn't mind a lightweight TC-like addon that displays healing values of varying ranks (e.g. Healing Wave) so I can pick the best rank to heal someone with |
| 16:47.54 | sciophobia | Gemski just lock chat frams in the interface options |
| 16:47.54 | Mikma | kergoth: ammo want's to make BigWigs LoD too but he doesn't wan't to use S&D ;) |
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| 16:47.54 | Arrowmaster | im still using Flexbar so my memory usage wont be gettng small for a while |
| 16:47.54 | sciophobia | true true |
| 16:47.54 | Galencia | Mikma: 12800 doesnt work at all :) |
| 16:47.54 | sciophobia | i switched over to pubcrawl so im doin fine there |
| 16:47.54 | Industrial | wewhew :D |
| 16:47.54 | Mikma | Galencia: i know, blame the original author :P |
| 16:47.54 | Gemski | wow...i feel so nub |
| 16:47.54 | Gemski | thanks |
| 16:47.55 | sciophobia | hehe |
| 16:47.55 | sciophobia | np |
| 16:47.55 | Mikma | Galencia: i can fis it in SVN fast if you wish |
| 16:47.55 | Mikma | 15.380 with all externals |
| 16:47.55 | Galencia | that or tell me how to fix it manually ^^ |
| 16:47.55 | Mikma | 9.527 with !!!Libraries |
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| 16:47.55 | Mikma | Galencia: ok.. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2309.msg48362#msg48362 |
| 16:48.40 | Machine_ | i'm losing chat windows whenever i die.. |
| 16:48.44 | Galencia | ty. |
| 16:48.46 | neale | don't die |
| 16:48.52 | Mikma | lawl |
| 16:49.20 | Machine_ | yeah, the thought occured to me. too bad we're up against a premade, again |
| 16:49.26 | neale | sorry, was channeling tekkub again |
| 16:49.27 | neale | hehe |
| 16:49.40 | kergoth | Mikma: nothing wrong with that.. theres a reason i have it optionaldeps not requireddeps.. course he'd have to have some other addon to load it then :P |
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| 16:50.16 | Mikma | kergoth: yeah he doesn't wan't bw to be dependant of other addons |
| 16:50.25 | Mikma | which i understand 100% |
| 16:50.31 | oxman | hum warmup is still false with !!!Libraries =( |
| 16:50.58 | mjc | false? |
| 16:51.10 | oxman | wrong |
| 16:51.14 | mjc | wrong? |
| 16:51.41 | Galencia | Mikma: hmm is there a way to reduce the number of buttons? |
| 16:51.49 | Mikma | Galencia: why? |
| 16:51.53 | Galencia | i set rows to 1 but i still have 2 rows and a million buttons |
| 16:52.00 | Gemski | so does xad work now? i tried the very first version and it was picky about what it would let me use |
| 16:52.00 | Mikma | don't use them then |
| 16:52.00 | Galencia | all empty, but still, they show if i do /xad lock |
| 16:52.30 | Mikma | and your problem is? :) |
| 16:52.35 | Mikma | Gemski: yes/no |
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| 16:52.49 | kergoth | oxman: how so? |
| 16:52.52 | kergoth | mjc: sup? |
| 16:52.54 | Galencia | Mikma: its hard to position the bar :) |
| 16:53.00 | Gemski | well like it worked fine with mage water, but not vendor water |
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| 16:53.15 | oxman | for example kergoth, it say oRA2 use 2217 KiB :| |
| 16:53.42 | kergoth | well, does !!!Libraries have every library that oRA2 uses? |
| 16:53.48 | Mikma | ok ppl the joke is over now, let's take the x10 out of Warmup ;) |
| 16:53.52 | oxman | I think, wait |
| 16:53.53 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:54.07 | kergoth | i just use warmup for ballpark figures, not exact |
| 16:54.07 | oxman | yep it have |
| 16:54.09 | kergoth | but its useful |
| 16:54.12 | kergoth | weird |
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| 16:56.47 | Rophy | oxma did you remove the embedded libraries from those addons after installing !!!Libraries? |
| 16:57.00 | Rophy | oxman |
| 16:57.14 | kergoth | good question, though it shouldnt matter if !!!Libraries had the absolute latest of everything and loaded first |
| 16:57.46 | oxman | no Rophy :D |
| 16:57.49 | Mikma | kergoth: i noticed that GMail can't be LoD because it has the alt+click = trade that item -feature |
| 16:57.55 | Rophy | no, i think wow still loads them into memory and so they're shown in the warmup stats. |
| 16:57.57 | oxman | I need modify each addon and each .toc ? |
| 16:58.09 | oxman | So I will not use !!!Libraries :p |
| 16:58.11 | Rophy | just that they got gc'ed out soon. |
| 16:58.30 | kergoth | Rophy: most libs check if a newer version is loaded before they allocate anything.. |
| 16:58.39 | kergoth | rather than letting it all get gc'd |
| 16:58.44 | nevcairiel | Rophy: is parserlib-2.0 usable yet or should we stick to -1 ? |
| 16:59.01 | kergoth | Mikma: ah, didnt realize it added that. that kinda seems out of scope for a mail addon actually, maybe should just do a teeny addon to add just that |
| 16:59.01 | neale | where did supplyanddemand come from and why is it a prereq for perfecttargets? |
| 16:59.25 | kergoth | neale: its tekkub's load-on-demand addon loader. perfecttargets is set to be loaded by it when you're in a party by default now |
| 16:59.50 | Rophy | kergoth: in that case how do you explain the warmup stats being inaccurate for ALL addons, not just the first one with embedded library? |
| 16:59.51 | Mikma | kergoth: i agree |
| 16:59.52 | neale | oh right - there's no thread about it on the forums or anything, curious |
| 16:59.53 | kergoth | Rophy: it isnt for me. |
| 17:00.03 | Rophy | nevcairiel: dont use 2.0 yet. |
| 17:00.04 | Mikma | kergoth: but is there any neat ## X-S i can use for GMail to load when opening Mailbox |
| 17:00.11 | kergoth | Mikma: X-S&D-Mail |
| 17:00.16 | kergoth | Mikma: i checked it in to s&d last night |
| 17:00.23 | Mikma | ooh neato |
| 17:00.40 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r12859 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.lua: AllPlayed: Fix nil error. |
| 17:00.40 | CIA-11 | 03rophy 07Rophy * r12858 10ParserLib/Parser-2.0/Parser-2.0.lua: |
| 17:00.40 | CIA-11 | Parser-2.0 (Rophy branch): |
| 17:00.40 | CIA-11 | - Fixed some typos. (extraattack, Parser_Gain) |
| 17:00.40 | CIA-11 | - (Un)Registers possible Blizzard events when someone (un)registered to an ParserLib event. |
| 17:01.13 | Shabador | Does S&D only works for ACE2 mods? |
| 17:01.26 | Mikma | Shabador: for all i think |
| 17:01.26 | kergoth | Shabador: nope, it works with any LoD addon afaik |
| 17:01.38 | kergoth | it probably uses ace2 itself, but shouldnt require that anything else do so |
| 17:01.51 | Kebinusan | should work with any LoD mod that has the toc entry |
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| 17:02.49 | Mikma | wassup UranusBear? |
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| 17:03.40 | mjc | haha |
| 17:03.46 | Shabador | So I can just add ## X-S&D-Placeholder: true to every .toc I have (wouldn't hurt, correct?) |
| 17:03.48 | mjc | uranusbear? |
| 17:04.04 | kergoth | Shabador: for the LoD addons, yep. then you could select when to load it in S&D in game |
| 17:04.24 | Shabador | Any easy way to identify which addons are LoD |
| 17:04.25 | kergoth | well, wouldnt hurt adding it to everything, but owuldnt gain anything on non-lod |
| 17:04.25 | Shabador | ? |
| 17:04.31 | kergoth | look for LoadOnDemand in the .toc :P |
| 17:05.51 | yacoob | did any otravi cb support flightmap yet? |
| 17:08.28 | oxman | I think a perfectraid design style like maintankframes will be great :p |
| 17:08.49 | Shabador | What happens if I add this to every addon I have? :) |
| 17:08.49 | Shabador | ## LoadOnDemand: 1 |
| 17:08.50 | Shabador | ## X-S&D-Placeholder: true |
| 17:09.01 | Shabador | (Or virtually every addon) |
| 17:09.19 | Shabador | Would it work, or does the LoD function have to be coded in the lua as well. |
| 17:09.21 | Arrowmaster | youll probably break a lot of them |
| 17:10.04 | kergoth | old addons, and even some new ones, dont expect to be LoD, and/or dont expect their dependencies to be |
| 17:10.37 | Mikma | how does the commandline svn merge work? |
| 17:10.47 | Mikma | let's say i wan't to get new stuff from repo to my wc |
| 17:11.02 | Mikma | svn merge http://repo@head wc ? |
| 17:11.14 | Arrowmaster | if an LoD addon is set as a dependency to a non LoD addon shouldnt it load at the biginning anyway? |
| 17:11.36 | kergoth | yep |
| 17:11.51 | Mikma | to be honest... Ace2 really needs a LoD feature in :) |
| 17:11.53 | mjc | svk > * |
| 17:11.55 | mjc | :P |
| 17:12.06 | kergoth | svk is awesome |
| 17:12.07 | mjc | Mikma: it wouldn't be a library if it could LoD stuff |
| 17:12.09 | kergoth | kergoth.com went down last night |
| 17:12.10 | Arrowmaster | more of the Libs need to be set to LoD then |
| 17:12.15 | mjc | kergoth: yeah I noticed |
| 17:12.16 | kergoth | so i did a quick copy from the mirror to local |
| 17:12.20 | Mikma | mjc: i just realized it wouldn't work at all |
| 17:12.22 | kergoth | switched my wc |
| 17:12.26 | kergoth | and continued on my way |
| 17:12.32 | kergoth | now i can merge back up now that its back |
| 17:12.33 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:12.40 | oxman | [Ammo] what's the height size in pixel of 10 tanks ? |
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| 17:12.45 | mjc | kergoth: Committed revision 24708 from revision 11772. |
| 17:13.00 | mjc | now I need a good svk gui for osx :'( |
| 17:13.19 | CIA-11 | 03skyboat * r12860 10Cyclone/Cyclone.toc: Cyclone: Updated .toc |
| 17:13.34 | Mikma | mjc: well, you got svk from where for osx? |
| 17:13.36 | Arrowmaster | correction, most of the libs need to be changed to LoD |
| 17:13.50 | mjc | Mikma: cpan |
| 17:14.08 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: yep, thatd be a good idea. no point loading them when nobody needs em |
| 17:15.00 | MoonWolf | isn |
| 17:15.00 | mjc | no sorry |
| 17:15.00 | mjc | darwinports |
| 17:15.00 | MoonWolf | isn't cpan a perl thing ? |
| 17:15.00 | MoonWolf | that makes more sense. |
| 17:15.00 | kergoth | heh, i made msbtloot into an lod addon that both does a loadwith on msbt and an optionaldeps on msbt, so whichever one loads first will load the other :) |
| 17:15.01 | kergoth | some days i dont hate blizzard |
| 17:15.01 | kergoth | some days |
| 17:15.05 | Arrowmaster | yeah i like using standalones so it would help a lot, but also theres mods that have libs embeded and dont put the standalone versions as optionaldeps |
| 17:15.11 | MoonWolf | like the days you have fun playing ? |
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| 17:15.18 | kergoth | indeed, like those |
| 17:15.33 | mjc | kergoth: heh |
| 17:16.10 | mjc | kergoth: it'd be nice if i could set a sync hook to pull stuff down from zip file urls and shite |
| 17:16.18 | mjc | like to run a cmd on svk sync |
| 17:16.45 | Nickenyfiken | hmm NanoStats2 has no FuBar support? |
| 17:16.54 | Shabador | Hm... Can't find a single addon that allready has LoD in the toc. :/ |
| 17:17.08 | Shabador | Guess it's time to play the waiting game. ^^ |
| 17:17.08 | neale | what about perfecttargets? :p |
| 17:17.29 | maia | i HATE LoD. You won't see it in my addons ever. Tekkub is the devil for converting everything to S&D. |
| 17:18.03 | neale | tekkub is the devil! :) why do you hate LoD maia? |
| 17:18.05 | kergoth | no kidding maia, lets waste our ram all the time running crap we dont need |
| 17:18.10 | Xuerian | Why not just MAKE it LoD, Shabador? 0_o |
| 17:18.34 | Xuerian | Who knows. It COULD work, and not bend the time-space continuum.... maybe... one or two of them... |
| 17:18.39 | Elkano | I used LoD for FramesResizd since I have to wait for the Blizzard frames to be loaded (and I don't want to load them myself) but besides that.... |
| 17:18.41 | Shabador | As someone wrote that it's a big posibility it'll break? |
| 17:19.10 | Xuerian | ;P. MCP solves memory problems. |
| 17:19.15 | maia | kergoth: I disable addons on the login screen if I don't need them, and use MCP in game. adding a dependency to Ace2 addons is very bad for the Ace2 project as I'm convinced we're going to lose lots of lots of users with this move. |
| 17:19.19 | Shabador | Hm... Guess I could just go haywire and start adding away. :p |
| 17:19.27 | Shabador | Not right before the raid though... |
| 17:19.34 | Xuerian | lol |
| 17:19.36 | kergoth | if users are too blind to see the benefits, good riddance. |
| 17:19.43 | kergoth | and if developers are that blind too, we've got bigger problems |
| 17:20.00 | maia | kergoth: well, I certainly do worry about our user base. |
| 17:20.03 | kergoth | maia: and how exactly is the login screen going to save you all the ram of not loading bigwigs and ora2 until you're in a raid? |
| 17:20.07 | neale | well let me just say that i couldn't find anything on the forums that said that supplyanddemand was required for perfecttargets, until someone asked |
| 17:20.12 | kergoth | maia: be sure to let me know when you figure out how to make it do that |
| 17:20.23 | maia | huh? |
| 17:21.00 | Xuerian | kergoth: By leaving them unchecked till your group gathers to raid, opening MCP, and checking them, then loading them :) |
| 17:21.14 | kergoth | ick |
| 17:21.37 | vhaarr | I share maias concern, no doubt this will lower the userbase for those addons. |
| 17:21.40 | Xuerian | Same reaction I have to making so many things (And there are some things it works perfectly for, too) LoD |
| 17:21.49 | maia | thats what I do as well. I know its less convenient, but I don't like *forcing* people to now install external dependencies. |
| 17:22.04 | kergoth | i presume you also force the auction ui to load at login? |
| 17:22.08 | kergoth | since you hate lod so much? |
| 17:22.11 | kergoth | give me a break. |
| 17:22.31 | neale | you don't need a seperate mod to have the auction UI load when you open the AH |
| 17:22.31 | mjc | S&D should be optional on everything, imo :( |
| 17:22.32 | maia | kergoth: you know you're misinterpreting me. |
| 17:22.40 | kergoth | mjc: agreed. |
| 17:22.58 | mjc | but how do you get a mod to load if SnD isn't around |
| 17:22.59 | mjc | ? |
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| 17:23.21 | kergoth | maia: i dont think i am. you seem pretty blind to the benefits, i'm just stressing them so maybe you'll see. |
| 17:23.30 | mjc | kergoth: is there a gui for svk at all? :P |
| 17:23.38 | kergoth | mjc: not that i know of |
| 17:23.46 | kergoth | maybe check in #svk |
| 17:23.57 | Xuerian | kergoth: In the same stroke, you seem pretty blind to the disadvantages. |
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| 17:24.09 | maia | e.g. if all of a sudden oRA2 or BigWigs would require S&D, I know all my guildies will convert back the CTRA. Call them dumb, but they are my friends and I can understand their move of seeing any additional addon they have to maintain as one addon too many. they play wow because they want to play, not because they want to install addons. |
| 17:24.10 | vhaarr | kergoth: The benefits are irrelevant if it decreases userbase. |
| 17:24.15 | kergoth | the only disadvantage is requiring an add loader. |
| 17:24.30 | maia | kergoth: that is the BIG disadvantage for many, many people. |
| 17:24.33 | kergoth | maia: so include s&d in the .zip for those addons |
| 17:24.45 | kergoth | if they're too fucking stupid to extract a zip, they dont need to be our users |
| 17:25.20 | maia | kergoth: well, have you seen S&D inside any of the already converted addons? I havent. Tekkub didnt even post about this change, as neale mentioned a few min ago |
| 17:25.35 | kergoth | then thats a problem with people's release process, not with the nature of the change |
| 17:26.33 | maia | kergoth: and its NOT "too stupid". People just prefer to play wow out of the box without having to deal with zip files all day long. With your argument you could call all Windows and especially Mac users stupid too, just because they don't like using a command line for everything. |
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| 17:26.57 | kergoth | extracting one zip to install two addons as opposed to extracting one zip to install one addon is no change in difficulty |
| 17:26.58 | kergoth | period |
| 17:27.08 | kergoth | come back when you're going to be logical, until then i wont waste my time listening to you |
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| 17:27.26 | Xuerian | kergoth: Including S&D as a external dependancy in a zip precludes big problems. |
| 17:27.28 | maia | kergoth: sorry, thats the elitist view I'm having problems with in here. |
| 17:27.39 | Elkano | kergoth, and what's about versoning? how to know as a user which zip has the newer version of the addon? |
| 17:28.07 | sciophobia | lets just make the svn one big zip, that way its easy for everyone to install... >_< |
| 17:28.18 | eternally777 | sciophobia: I like that idea. |
| 17:28.20 | Xuerian | When releases hit release sites, then no longer require updates (IE, the core mod works seamlessly with progressive versions), that addon will be left with the ghost S&D, which odds are, is older than some OTHER S&D employing addon requires to load itself |
| 17:28.21 | kergoth | maia: if you feel your users cant extract one zip to install new addons, your userbase has issues, and i see no reason to bother caring about them. |
| 17:28.34 | haste | haha |
| 17:28.46 | eternally777 | Lets make executable installers that will automatically connect to the internet, transmit credit card information, and check for a new version |
| 17:28.49 | kergoth | it isnt elitist to expect people to be able to read instructions |
| 17:28.52 | haste | someone pasted some random symbols on IRC, and X-Chat made a beeping sound :p |
| 17:29.04 | eternally777 | Whoops, did I say that part out loud? |
| 17:29.08 | Xuerian | kergoth: No, it's just stupid. |
| 17:29.26 | kergoth | if people didnt learn to read in school, they can go fuck themselves. |
| 17:29.37 | mjc | kergoth: I have to agree with evreyone else... a large portion of ace2's using embeds was to prevent requiring additional shit |
| 17:29.55 | Xuerian | kergoth: It's like me expecting my family to keep promises. Sure, I want to believe them, I SHOULD believe them, but their HORRIBLE TRACK RECORD of ACTUALLY KEEPING THEM forces me to realize NO, they won't keep the promise, yes they should, and it's just retarded of me to think they will. |
| 17:30.10 | Xuerian | Users SHOULD read everything, then FOLLOW those instructions |
| 17:30.14 | kergoth | Xuerian: i dont expect the majority to read, i just dont give a shit about people who dont. |
| 17:30.17 | Xuerian | They don't, most of the time :) |
| 17:30.34 | maia | kergoth: it is elitist to assume people will be thankful for making addons LoD, tehrefor saving 0.1sec loading time. They'd have to log in about 3000 times to finally gain the time they spend asking why their addon stopped working, download it from somewhere, completely relaunch wow, are pissed because they updated their interface just a few min before a raid and now are late,... |
| 17:30.34 | sciophobia | answer me this, have you read the entire EULA for WoW every time it gets patched? |
| 17:30.48 | kergoth | mjc: i see the argument, i just dont think its a good decision to take one disadvantage and turn it against numerous advantages. |
| 17:30.51 | haste | ofc you don't sciophobia |
| 17:30.53 | haste | you diff it |
| 17:30.58 | haste | l2p |
| 17:31.10 | sciophobia | did you read the whole thing the FIRST time? |
| 17:31.10 | Xuerian | sciophobia: Or how many people read the ELUA for that odd program that had "Call us for 1000$ for reading the ELUA" at the bottom? And only one or two poeple claimed it in a year? |
| 17:31.12 | Mikma | mjc: can't install port :( |
| 17:31.13 | kergoth | maia: i saved 7 megs in ram usage at load time so far. come back when yo uhave a clue about the benefits, thanks. |
| 17:31.19 | mjc | Mikma: on osx? |
| 17:31.26 | Mikma | mjc: yeah :P dyld: /usr/bin/tclsh can't open library: /usr/lib/libcurl.3.dylib (No such file or directory, errno = 2) |
| 17:31.35 | mjc | build it from source |
| 17:31.37 | CIA-11 | 03gamefaq * r12861 10PerfectRaid/Localization.deDE.lua: PerfectRaid - Updated deDE Translation for Paladin Buffs |
| 17:31.49 | maia | kergoth: you're not saving anything compared to having them disabled on login and enabling them with MCP when joining a raid. zero. |
| 17:31.50 | mjc | but it sounds like your OSX install is fucked up anyways |
| 17:31.54 | Mikma | not sure do i have xcode in |
| 17:32.05 | Mikma | mjc: i sure hope so it's for 10.3 too |
| 17:32.20 | neale | maia: sounds to me like you're doing exactly the same thing manually that S&D is doing automatically? |
| 17:32.22 | Mikk | sciophobia: I read the whole thing the first time. After that, I've just noted that the revision number is the same and assumed nothing changed. |
| 17:32.27 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.32 | kergoth | maia: right, i'll wait here while you change your ui so you have to manually load the auction house ui every time you talk to an auctioneer. |
| 17:32.32 | mjc | according to that error |
| 17:32.37 | kergoth | maia: let me know when you're done. |
| 17:32.44 | mjc | and seeing as darwinports installs to /opt/local... it's not darwinport's fault |
| 17:32.59 | Xuerian | kergoth: Have a cookie while you read the dictionary entry for "context". |
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| 17:33.37 | maia | kergoth: as long as you're not trying to understand the point, there's no need in continuing that discussion. I'm still convinced S&D will hurt the Ace project over the long term. |
| 17:33.51 | Mikma | mjc: well i don't have the libcurl.3 ... that might explain why it's not working |
| 17:33.52 | kergoth | maia: when you have a valid point to make, i'm waiting to hear it. |
| 17:33.57 | neale | nobody is requiring other addons other than tek's to use it, are they |
| 17:34.02 | mjc | Mikma: curl comes with OSX |
| 17:34.09 | mjc | Mikma: thus, your install is fucked up |
| 17:34.11 | kergoth | neale: right, its up to the author of each addon |
| 17:34.11 | Mikma | mjc: i have 2.0.2 |
| 17:34.17 | mjc | maia: kerg, you, and i all have said it should be optional |
| 17:34.22 | sciophobia | does anyone know is Tem comes on IRC? |
| 17:34.22 | mjc | why are you all arguing |
| 17:34.29 | mjc | Mikma: your OSX install is fucked up |
| 17:34.32 | neale | ~seen tem |
| 17:34.47 | purl | tem is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: 'Load order is mostly alphabetical in windows'. |
| 17:34.47 | Mikma | mjc: 10.3 |
| 17:34.47 | Xuerian | mjc: If it's optional, but the addon is still LoD, how does it get loaded without it? :) |
| 17:34.47 | sciophobia | not working bot? |
| 17:34.47 | Elkano | but why not have it the other way around if you care for such inteligent users? have them add LoD to the addons themselves... |
| 17:34.47 | Tem | someone is blind |
| 17:34.49 | sciophobia | ahh |
| 17:34.51 | neale | giggme |
| 17:34.53 | sciophobia | damn op |
| 17:34.56 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.59 | kergoth | because i feel going LoD gains benefits that outweigh the negatives, and maia feels the negatives outweigh the positives |
| 17:35.25 | Mikma | mjc: yes, i have libcurl 2.0.2, not libcurl 3 |
| 17:35.38 | mjc | Mikma: ok, so how did your tclsh come to depend on 3 |
| 17:35.54 | Mikma | mjc: sudo port -d selfupdate :P |
| 17:35.58 | mjc | darwinports didn't do that since it doesn't touch /usr |
| 17:36.17 | JoshBorke | hola |
| 17:36.24 | neale | hey josh |
| 17:36.32 | Xuerian | oy JoshBorke. |
| 17:36.44 | kergoth | personally, i wouldnt mind seeing addons to dual releases, one LoD with S&D in the zip, and one non-LoD, leaving it in the hands of the user |
| 17:36.51 | kergoth | s/to/do |
| 17:37.08 | mjc | kergoth: agreed |
| 17:37.15 | mjc | fuck |
| 17:37.18 | Xuerian | kergoth: Agreed. |
| 17:37.26 | mjc | petition what's his ass to hack a LoD system into wow |
| 17:37.35 | mjc | so we don't even need to fuck with this crap. |
| 17:37.45 | kergoth | thatd be nice, the blizzard addon enabler/disabler is mediocre at best |
| 17:37.53 | Xuerian | Just petition for a stub meta =P |
| 17:38.04 | mjc | kergoth: mediocre is a massive overstatement |
| 17:38.20 | mjc | how about useless? |
| 17:38.59 | kergoth | personally, i find that not having to reload my ui when i enter a raid to load the raid addons is a timer saver thats worthwhile |
| 17:39.02 | kergoth | mjc: heh, true |
| 17:39.40 | Mikma | mjc: oh well maybe it's 10.4 fun then |
| 17:39.52 | Machine_ | hm, anyone else able to access the cia web? |
| 17:40.29 | mjc | wow |
| 17:40.34 | mjc | svk path completion <3 |
| 17:41.13 | JoshBorke | question: should i run svnsync from dev.wowace.com or svn.wowace.com? |
| 17:41.22 | kergoth | Elkano: given that its likely that users will unpack addon updates as they occur, its almost certain that the s&d included with the most recent addon will overwrite the old, ensuring that they have the latest. just need to ensure the release process includes the latest. |
| 17:41.44 | kergoth | mjc: how do you set up completion for svk paths? i havent done that yet, been wanting it for ages :) |
| 17:41.54 | Behe|Movie | hi there |
| 17:42.07 | Behe|Movie | anyone here thats into bigwigs and cthun |
| 17:42.09 | Machine_ | Elkano! |
| 17:42.11 | mjc | kergoth: contrib/svk-completion.pl in the source |
| 17:42.15 | kergoth | ah, nice |
| 17:42.21 | Machine_ | Elkano: any progress with the anchor bug in EBB? |
| 17:42.32 | Behe|Movie | were currently doin him but darkglare always goes into a diferent group then announced |
| 17:42.39 | mjc | kergoth: chmod +x it and do "complete -C /path/to/svk-completion.pl -o default svk" |
| 17:42.41 | Behe|Movie | *i am using latest svn* |
| 17:42.46 | mjc | put that in your .bashrc if you want it to load al lthe time :) |
| 17:43.05 | JoshBorke | mjc: would it be better to svnsync from dev.wowace.com or svn.wowace.com? |
| 17:43.18 | kergoth | maia: anyway, i apologize for getting pissed, people failing to see the obvious as i see it annoys the hell out of me, but i'm sure you felt the same way. i'm certain we both can see the benefits and the negatives, we just evaluate their importance differently. |
| 17:43.18 | mjc | dev. |
| 17:43.25 | mjc | svnsyncing from other mirrors = bad |
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| 17:44.10 | kergoth | i need to update my svk completion for makefile targets |
| 17:44.12 | kergoth | er |
| 17:44.14 | kergoth | s/svk/bash/ |
| 17:44.15 | kergoth | svk on the brain |
| 17:44.32 | Mikma | oh lookie, kaelten |
| 17:44.32 | nevcairiel | Behe|Movie: try talking to [Ammo] |
| 17:44.38 | Mikma | force him to do updates |
| 17:44.45 | neale | lol |
| 17:44.53 | kergoth | mjc: thanks, that kicks ass |
| 17:44.58 | mjc | kergoth: hell yeah. |
| 17:45.16 | mjc | kergoth: I odn't need a gui now ;P |
| 17:45.38 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:45.53 | mjc | installing irssi and I'll brb. |
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| 17:46.06 | Behe|Movie | k thx i will |
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| 17:47.22 | maia | kergoth: agreed. |
| 17:48.50 | kergoth | for those in the peanut gallery, yes, i apologized, and no, hell has not frozen over. *bows* |
| 17:48.52 | kergoth | :P |
| 17:49.46 | kergoth | arguing is such fun. |
| 17:49.53 | maia | haha |
| 17:49.56 | Xuerian | Agreed XD |
| 17:49.57 | neale | Arguing is fun when everyone is right. :) |
| 17:50.00 | kergoth | hahah |
| 17:50.59 | Cairenn | *the peanut gallery is amazed* |
| 17:51.08 | FISKER_Q | i love blizzard sometimes |
| 17:51.30 | Xuerian | Don't say that FISKER_Q, they might start getting ideas! |
| 17:51.49 | eternally777 | O noez!! Now I need a new source of drama :( |
| 17:51.50 | FISKER_Q | from "This is not possible, you're lying" to "The issue have been fixed, and we are offering you 7 days of free gametime" |
| 17:52.03 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 17:52.13 | FISKER_Q | Somehow they changed out every contact details on a friends account |
| 17:52.21 | FISKER_Q | so suddenly his account was registered to another person |
| 17:52.27 | sciophobia | lol wow |
| 17:52.32 | FISKER_Q | Then it was hacked for fraud when he told them it |
| 17:52.32 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 17:52.40 | Machine_ | <GM>Something whispers: l2p1!1 |
| 17:52.41 | Xuerian | ... |
| 17:52.46 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 17:52.51 | FISKER_Q | And finally after 3 weeks he got his account back after being told it was impossible that the contact details could be changed |
| 17:53.10 | Xuerian | So he lost the account for three weeks, but only got 7 days playtime? |
| 17:53.16 | neale | hahaha |
| 17:53.19 | FISKER_Q | heh yeah |
| 17:53.23 | neale | way to go blizz |
| 17:53.34 | FISKER_Q | Blizzard has a very sparse definition of lost time |
| 17:53.54 | Xuerian | "Yeah, we were wrong, we're sorry we made it so you couldn't play for three weeks. Here, we're being extra-generous today, have a week free." |
| 17:53.59 | FISKER_Q | 3 weeks isn't accurate of course but something along the lines of that |
| 17:54.05 | sciophobia | like the almost full week of downtime i had for "extended maintenance" yet, no days added |
| 17:54.12 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r12862 10FuBar_TrackerFu/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:54.12 | CIA-11 | TrackerFu: |
| 17:54.12 | CIA-11 | * Initial commit. Still need to set up externals. |
| 17:54.40 | Xuerian | haha, extended maintenance to fix the extended maintenance to fix the maintenance ftw. |
| 17:55.02 | sciophobia | exactly |
| 17:55.19 | sciophobia | "oh that stuff we did for tuesday and wednesday didnt work, so you cant play till saturday" |
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| 17:55.53 | mjc | I just set adium to say "giggity" whenever I get an IM |
| 17:55.54 | mjc | woot. |
| 17:56.07 | Xuerian | .... |
| 17:56.15 | mjc | my boss is spamming me w/ single character IMs to hear it go "giggitygiggitygiggity" |
| 17:56.24 | Xuerian | XD |
| 17:56.31 | sciophobia | lol |
| 17:56.59 | neale | you have the best boss ever, mjc. |
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| 17:57.21 | Kebinusan | eternally777, <3 |
| 17:57.25 | mjc | neale: heh |
| 17:57.28 | mjc | yes I do |
| 17:57.30 | Talyn600m | oRA2_Buff error, report to flyspray or find the author? |
| 17:57.56 | neale | ~ping [ammo] |
| 17:58.04 | purl | pong [ammo] |
| 17:58.56 | Royal | [Ammo], would it be interesting to extend oRA2 MT aggro feature to use the highlighting? As in, if the player is not a MT and one of the mobs targetted by an MT targets the player, the highlight border turns red. If player is MT, it turns red if the target is not on him |
| 17:59.26 | neale | oh wait, ammo didn't do ora2_buff - grimwald did |
| 17:59.45 | axxo | 5 points for understanding what Royal just said |
| 17:59.56 | Royal | hmm |
| 18:00.00 | Royal | It's not clear? :P |
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| 18:00.11 | neale | <tries to understand> |
| 18:00.12 | Talyn600m | no |
| 18:00.13 | neale | ~roulette |
| 18:00.16 | purl | ACTION watches neale pull the trigger: Click! |
| 18:00.24 | maia | its clear |
| 18:00.24 | Xuerian | I understood.... |
| 18:00.32 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r12863 10FuBar_TrackerFu/ (Libs/ Locales/): |
| 18:00.32 | CIA-11 | TrackerFu: |
| 18:00.32 | CIA-11 | * Externals set up. |
| 18:00.41 | maia | border red whenever ToT isnt the MT |
| 18:01.32 | Talyn600m | oh, i turn ToT off anyway, takes up waaaay too much space |
| 18:01.32 | maia | what does oRA_Buff do, btw? Havent had much time in the past 2 weeks, seems I missed quite a bit. |
| 18:01.38 | Machine_ | mjc: you use irssi? |
| 18:01.50 | neale | maia: "An oRA2 plugin to monitor Buff Timers" |
| 18:01.51 | neale | :) |
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| 18:02.14 | malreth | NA|Liquidor: yo |
| 18:02.17 | maia | so it can tell you how many seconds are left on the fort buff of a different player in the raid? |
| 18:02.28 | Royal | maia, not exactly what I meant. I meant personal aggro warning, if the player himself has aggro (from any of the MT Targets -- while player is not a MT) that mobs highlight border will turn Red |
| 18:02.40 | nevcairiel | a guildie of mine just updated to the latest oRA2 from the webpage and said as of that, all ace2 addons where broken, did anyone destroy some libs ? :D |
| 18:02.44 | maia | Royal: ah. |
| 18:02.50 | Royal | If the player _is_ an MT, it turns red whenever the players MT Target is not on the player, as in, if the MT lost aggro |
| 18:03.10 | Royal | Like, basically the "Aggro from xxx" CTRA thingie, only with a coloring border instead of a msg |
| 18:03.23 | Xuerian | eternally777: Externals not setup :P |
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| 18:04.48 | mjc | kergoth: blah. my svk path completion stuff is farked cause @INC doesn't contain /opt/local/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 |
| 18:05.23 | maia | does anyone happen to know a small addon that will track how much time of a raid is being spent in and out of combat? I'D like to hit a key and spam the raid after clearing MC with something like "114min in combat, 152min out of combat". Oh, it would have to track the combat status for the entire raid, not only for myself, as if I'd e.g. die it would display wrong data. |
| 18:05.53 | Xuerian | Recap tracks it, but that's not exactly small :P |
| 18:05.54 | CapnBry | I like the "the ugly truth" raid dps in swstats for that |
| 18:06.15 | maia | I've never seen that setting in swstats. hmm. |
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| 18:06.56 | Baraius | Total time In Combat: 112 minutes Total Time out of Comat: *integer overflow error* |
| 18:07.05 | neale | lol |
| 18:07.29 | yacoob | Hm. |
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| 18:07.51 | yacoob | Where should I point potential CTRA converts? To ora2 entry on wiki? |
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| 18:08.25 | Xuerian | apparently a older build of ora2, since the newer ones seem to fubar ace2 :P |
| 18:09.44 | CIA-11 | 03devla * r12864 10AHFavorites/ (AHFavorites.lua AHFavorites.toc): |
| 18:09.44 | CIA-11 | AHFavorites: Bugfixes |
| 18:09.44 | CIA-11 | -IsUsableCheckButton:SetChecked no longer uses nil, set to false |
| 18:09.44 | CIA-11 | -DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME messages conflicting with some chat mods, changed to ace:print |
| 18:09.44 | CIA-11 | -Modified TOC, set to LoadOnDemand with Blizzard_AuctionUI |
| 18:11.07 | axxo | bah, hate updating addons |
| 18:12.18 | Kebinusan | never had a problem with newer ora2 builds |
| 18:12.42 | sciophobia | was working for me yesterday |
| 18:12.43 | Xuerian | Neither have I. thus the apparently and seem :P |
| 18:12.52 | sciophobia | noted |
| 18:12.56 | yacoob | so, wiki is enough? Or somewhere else? :) |
| 18:13.54 | Baraius | Maybe http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Raiding_with_Ace_AddOns ? |
| 18:14.15 | Baraius | Or a link to the ORA2 forums post? |
| 18:14.26 | Baraius | I seem to recall the actual ORA2 page being a little bare. |
| 18:14.27 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel * r12865 10Bartender2/Bartender2.toc: Bartender2: minor toc changes |
| 18:14.47 | JoshBorke | woohoo! up to revision 6k! |
| 18:16.11 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r12866 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: next attempt to fix problems with pet priority (drycoded) |
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| 18:16.56 | Saroz | Someone needs to Ace Statusbars, can't replace that mod |
| 18:18.03 | neale | metamap plx :) |
| 18:18.23 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel * r12867 10Bartender2/Bartender2.toc: Bartender2: bleh. |
| 18:18.26 | packetlss | hmm, PerfectRaid.lua: 517: attempt to index local 'f' (a nil value) |
| 18:19.08 | Industrial | i have a 50 warrior \o/ |
| 18:19.24 | Industrial | muhahah |
| 18:19.43 | neale | so screenshot your UI in a raid, industrial ;) |
| 18:20.03 | haste | Industrial, hacks? |
| 18:20.12 | neale | he glides! |
| 18:20.13 | neale | jk |
| 18:20.21 | Pik|Silvermoon | Is Clad really asleep? |
| 18:20.31 | Pik|Silvermoon | My darn SVN acct has no rights. :( |
| 18:20.47 | neale | caterer!!!! |
| 18:20.48 | neale | :) |
| 18:20.50 | haste | Where are you committing? |
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| 18:20.58 | Pik|Silvermoon | dev. |
| 18:21.09 | Pik|Silvermoon | But I get a 403 access denied error on the acct. he created me. |
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| 18:22.13 | Industrial | neale: nah im not going to raid |
| 18:22.16 | Industrial | neale: =P |
| 18:22.27 | Industrial | haste: us account ^_______________________________^ |
| 18:22.49 | kergoth | mjc: set PERLLIB or PERL5LIB in your .profile or so |
| 18:23.10 | Pik|Silvermoon | Neale: I put an update on wowinterface at least. |
| 18:23.20 | Pik|Silvermoon | Got filters in and almost have command line add/delete done. |
| 18:23.35 | neale | omfg. :) awesome, ty pik! |
| 18:23.54 | Machine_ | oh man, bt2 with circled serenity skinned buttons is hot! i wonder if i should blow the entire evening redoing my ui |
| 18:24.01 | Kebinusan | woot offically done with ace and fubar1.2 plugins |
| 18:24.04 | Machine_ | s/ is/ are/ |
| 18:24.06 | Industrial | pik means dick in dutch, just so you know |
| 18:24.15 | Mikma | packetlss: you should post a bugreport about that one, i have it too sometimes (the error) .. cladhaire.wowinterface.com |
| 18:24.52 | kergoth | serenity skinned? |
| 18:24.57 | mjc | kergoth: complete spawns a new shell |
| 18:25.10 | haste | mmm. spawning |
| 18:25.27 | Machine_ | haste, the norwegian answer to homer simpson |
| 18:25.38 | kergoth | mjc: ah, modify the .pl then. push @INC, "/usr/local/lib/perl"; or something |
| 18:25.38 | haste | :-( |
| 18:25.40 | kergoth | my perl is rusty |
| 18:25.45 | Machine_ | kergoth: http://wow.reaktio.net/bt2circled.jpg |
| 18:26.01 | kergoth | Machine_: ooh, neat |
| 18:26.14 | mjc | yeah I like it |
| 18:26.24 | mjc | but I like the one with the tiny black border better for some reason |
| 18:26.25 | Machine_ | hot stuff coming through |
| 18:27.10 | nevcairiel | [Ammo] are you there ? :) |
| 18:27.16 | JoshBorke | why circular buttons? |
| 18:27.22 | Pik|Silvermoon | Industrial: I get that every day. |
| 18:27.23 | Machine_ | i'm not a clicker, the only buttons that are visible and i click are non-urgent things. so i can afford them being round and perky like that |
| 18:27.30 | [Ammo] | am here somewhat |
| 18:27.32 | neale | they look nice? :) |
| 18:27.33 | [Ammo] | what's up nevc |
| 18:27.35 | Pik|Silvermoon | And it's not surprising considering the english "prick" |
| 18:27.42 | Industrial | Pik|Silvermoon: ^^ |
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| 18:27.56 | Xuerian | If only the cooldowns and macro texts were centered on BT2 circled ;P |
| 18:28.06 | Industrial | http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/1120/wowscrnshot100306202605pe9.jpg |
| 18:28.08 | Industrial | haste: pwnage |
| 18:28.19 | Machine_ | JoshBorke: it's like high heels. they're not the most practical out there but man are they hot |
| 18:28.21 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.25 | Machine_ | on a woman that is |
| 18:28.28 | JoshBorke | Machine_: lol |
| 18:28.34 | steino_ | Industrial: you have a level 50?! |
| 18:28.44 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.47 | kergoth | wow, i thought all ind had was level 19 twinks |
| 18:28.51 | steino_ | you've been busy! |
| 18:28.57 | Shabador | Anyone manage to sort PRaid by groups with this newest revision? |
| 18:28.58 | Industrial | not rly, I bought it with the account |
| 18:29.12 | steino_ | haha |
| 18:29.13 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: could you remove the gap between the mtts when highlight is disabled? :) |
| 18:29.14 | Industrial | actually, I bought the accound and just got the char with it |
| 18:29.18 | neale | i agree xuerian, i would use them if the cooldowns etc were in the right place |
| 18:29.23 | Industrial | s/nd/nt/ |
| 18:29.55 | Industrial | guess what im gunna do now? |
| 18:30.01 | neale | start a level 1 character |
| 18:30.02 | neale | lol |
| 18:30.02 | Industrial | make a twink and fuel it with items and money |
| 18:30.11 | Industrial | muhahaha |
| 18:30.14 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (i=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-191.west.biz.rr.com) |
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| 18:31.10 | mjc | hey ckk |
| 18:31.14 | malreth | Shabador: PRaid has been able to sort by groups for some time now. did something change in the last release? |
| 18:31.38 | mjc | ckknight: you think you could get that blizz UI dude to include a LoD system next patch? :P |
| 18:31.46 | Industrial | eventually ill start raiding ofcource |
| 18:31.59 | neale | with a priest, ind |
| 18:32.05 | Industrial | why |
| 18:32.07 | neale | so we can see how clean you keep your UI after that |
| 18:32.08 | neale | :) |
| 18:32.16 | Industrial | your on |
| 18:32.21 | neale | ok! |
| 18:32.38 | Industrial | :) |
| 18:32.50 | Shabador | malreth, it seems so. It still has the option, and I know it worked with an earlier revision. Now however /praid sort group just sort them by class but without any spacing. |
| 18:32.55 | neale | what server are you on ind? |
| 18:33.20 | CapnBry | yes Shabador, it's a known issue |
| 18:33.45 | CapnBry | it was broken by the changes to put tablet in, and hasn't been fixed yet |
| 18:33.49 | Industrial | Dethecus, neale |
| 18:34.44 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: I could but I won't for now |
| 18:34.58 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: it took me blood sweat and tears to get the sweet look it has now :p |
| 18:35.10 | [Ammo] | so I'm not fiddling with it till I understand WTF is going on with it :) |
| 18:35.19 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 18:35.44 | [Ammo] | I spent roughly 2.5 hours last night fixing it |
| 18:35.45 | nevcairiel | we will adapt, i guess =) |
| 18:35.49 | [Ammo] | so just get used to it |
| 18:36.07 | Industrial | http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8897/wowscrnshot100306203501ty6.jpg |
| 18:36.12 | Industrial | I so always wanted to do that |
| 18:36.18 | Industrial | rode there just for that |
| 18:36.20 | vhaarr | Anyone remember what that whiteboard mod was called? |
| 18:36.25 | [Ammo] | CoolDown monitor works fine woot :) |
| 18:36.27 | vhaarr | Someone was in here talking about it yesterday, I think. |
| 18:36.36 | nevcairiel | yea, seems fine |
| 18:36.53 | lacindas | hi all |
| 18:36.54 | nevcairiel | only problem is, that it only seends messages for only some spells |
| 18:37.10 | nevcairiel | innervate, loh would be interesting as well |
| 18:37.23 | kergoth | Industrial: hehe, thats how i felt about that elite in silverpine and the fucking crimson courier over in the pl, revenge is sweet |
| 18:37.25 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: that's because CTRA only monitors certain spells |
| 18:37.28 | nevcairiel | (even when its only supported by ora clients) |
| 18:37.28 | kergoth | meh |
| 18:37.30 | kergoth | hrm |
| 18:37.31 | [Ammo] | I'll add some custom ones for oRA2 :) |
| 18:37.49 | nevcairiel | Thats what i wanted to hear <3 |
| 18:38.07 | CapnBry | Son of Arugal? yeah fuck that fucker |
| 18:38.16 | kergoth | yeah him |
| 18:38.17 | kergoth | bastard |
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| 18:39.00 | Xuerian | Industrial: Woot, QuestFu :P |
| 18:39.31 | Pik|Silvermoon | Can anyone other than clad do SVN accounts? |
| 18:39.55 | nevcairiel | i dont think so |
| 18:40.15 | dreyruugr | Hmm... AceDB seems to have hosed peoples settings in Sprocket |
| 18:41.00 | Industrial | kergoth: indeed :D |
| 18:41.16 | tigg | maia: would it be possible to add some console output to detox, telling who is cleaned |
| 18:41.23 | Industrial | kergoth: I felt really fucked as alliance when having to walk there for my second pet :( (warlock) |
| 18:41.24 | tigg | maia: maybe as an option |
| 18:41.35 | Industrial | so now hes DED! stinky human |
| 18:42.13 | vhaarr | tigg: There is output for SCT, MSBT, etc, already. |
| 18:45.36 | tigg | vhaarr: simple console output would suffice ;) |
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| 18:51.08 | mjc | ckknight: you seem to quite enjoy your rr |
| 18:51.58 | sciophobia | anyone know why i cant get mirc line marker to show up on this server? |
| 18:52.08 | mjc | because mIRC is fucking garbage? |
| 18:52.10 | lotheac | speaking of detox output, I don't see any |
| 18:52.18 | lotheac | and yes I have the option enabled |
| 18:52.20 | JoshBorke | woohoo! svnsync complete |
| 18:52.29 | vhaarr | lotheac: Did you restart wow since you updated? |
| 18:52.39 | sciophobia | mjc what do you use? |
| 18:52.43 | Baraius | ZOMG Bartender2 is *so* cool! Why was this kept from me!?! Why?! |
| 18:52.45 | mjc | irssi or Colloquy |
| 18:52.47 | mjc | usually irssi |
| 18:53.03 | lotheac | vhaarr: yes, but I updated earlier today... was there a bug? |
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| 18:53.07 | ckknight | mjc, rr? |
| 18:53.15 | mjc | roadrunner |
| 18:53.24 | vhaarr | lotheac: what bug? |
| 18:53.27 | ckknight | baraius, because you didn't deserve it. |
| 18:53.30 | Tem | ckknight, can a FuBar plugin's icon have texcoords? |
| 18:53.33 | Baraius | I knew it! |
| 18:53.34 | evl | Where in EPL is the Naxx teleporter? |
| 18:53.37 | evl | Can't find it :/ |
| 18:53.41 | mjc | ckknight: owned ;D |
| 18:53.43 | JoshBorke | someone try my svn mirror! http://svn6.wowace.com |
| 18:53.45 | lotheac | something that would cause detox not to display the output in scrolling combat frame? |
| 18:53.50 | lotheac | because it sure was working yesterday |
| 18:53.57 | ckknight | Tem, not standardly, but nothing is stopping you from altering .iconFrame |
| 18:54.00 | JoshBorke | someone try my svn mirror! http://svn6.wowace.com/wowace |
| 18:54.49 | Tem | ckknight, thanks |
| 18:55.22 | nevcairiel | JoshBorke: seems to work. its a bit slow tho. |
| 18:56.17 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: hrm. well what can you do... |
| 18:56.29 | Kebinusan | bleh, damn guildmates |
| 18:56.32 | nevcairiel | maybe me, who knows |
| 18:57.05 | malreth | JoshBorke: I already hacked your svn server and it's now serving up japanese schoolgirl porn. that makes it 500% better than it was before. |
| 18:57.21 | JoshBorke | malreth: excellent! where can i get more?! |
| 18:57.25 | JoshBorke | er, i mean... |
| 19:01.30 | mjc | kergoth: solved, changed the shebang. :D |
| 19:01.30 | snurre | hm |
| 19:02.33 | Mikma | is it just me or does the SCL default coloring suck? :D |
| 19:03.03 | malreth | SCL? Sliding Cake Layer? |
| 19:03.44 | malreth | Sacred Clergy Love? |
| 19:03.57 | nevcairiel | simple combat log |
| 19:04.01 | FISKER_Q | twins down :O |
| 19:04.04 | Mikma | Soaped Curly Lesbian |
| 19:04.06 | mjc | malreth: haha |
| 19:04.09 | ven | [Ammo], got a problem with cooldown monitor in ora2. After disabling it new cooldowns still create bars. |
| 19:04.14 | nevcairiel | Mikma: thats good as well. |
| 19:04.15 | malreth | good one, Mikma! |
| 19:04.29 | FISKER_Q | olsen twins ofc |
| 19:04.32 | Kebinusan | vhaarr, do you mind if I attempt to add syncing and such to healbotassist |
| 19:04.38 | Mikma | FISKER_Q: aye, olsens |
| 19:04.41 | vhaarr | Kebinusan: no, go ahead |
| 19:04.46 | mjc | Kebinusan: I'd <3 you for that |
| 19:04.46 | vhaarr | Kebinusan: I was thinking about it |
| 19:04.50 | malreth | i have yet to find any olsen twin porn... |
| 19:04.58 | vhaarr | Kebinusan: how about you just watch chat_msg_raid and when the healer list is printed |
| 19:05.02 | Kebinusan | guildmates are harassing me about La Vendetta or something |
| 19:05.05 | haste | malreth, 4chan probably has some |
| 19:05.14 | vhaarr | Kebinusan: it gets parsed and you set .firstInRotation on the first unit and then parse the raid roster |
| 19:05.16 | Kebinusan | vhaarr, yeah thats what I was thinking at the simplest |
| 19:05.20 | malreth | haste: probably photoshopped... |
| 19:05.21 | vhaarr | Kebinusan: indeed |
| 19:05.24 | vhaarr | Kebinusan: fuck your guild mates |
| 19:05.29 | Kebinusan | hahah yeah |
| 19:05.31 | haste | malreth, 4chan has everything! |
| 19:05.33 | vhaarr | people don't need to see the list |
| 19:05.35 | vhaarr | they are just assclowns |
| 19:05.42 | vhaarr | "I want to manually sort the list" |
| 19:05.47 | vhaarr | "fuck off, controlfreak" |
| 19:06.00 | vhaarr | "I want to sync it so I can see other peoples cooldown" |
| 19:06.04 | vhaarr | "fuck off, controlfreak" |
| 19:06.06 | vhaarr | nubs |
| 19:06.12 | vhaarr | just use the addon and kill him |
| 19:06.19 | Kebinusan | yeah, Im honestly about to say stop using the fucking mod and watch the mt's health |
| 19:06.26 | vhaarr | yep |
| 19:06.29 | vhaarr | it's really that easy |
| 19:06.35 | vhaarr | my guild has no problems |
| 19:06.39 | vhaarr | and don't whine about syncing |
| 19:07.48 | Kebinusan | Yeah, the things they were asking for was a sync'd list so that people had a more visual queue, being able to re-order the list (although we just went with the list and re-ordered the raid around it), and being able to have the, x healed message changed to x healed y for z |
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| 19:08.18 | vhaarr | yeah I also got that |
| 19:08.24 | vhaarr | "I want to see how much they healed for" |
| 19:08.28 | vhaarr | does it matter?! |
| 19:08.30 | vhaarr | idiots |
| 19:08.46 | Kebinusan | yeah Im not too excited about making those changes, I might fiddle with it a bit if I get bored |
| 19:08.46 | vhaarr | get DM or SW stats or something |
| 19:09.15 | vhaarr | the mod is simple and it works |
| 19:09.23 | vhaarr | and that's that |
| 19:09.43 | vhaarr | Kebinusan: but yeah I will accept a healer list sync that just parses the chat output |
| 19:09.49 | vhaarr | Kebinusan: but nothing else |
| 19:09.52 | vhaarr | branch, if you do |
| 19:09.56 | Kebinusan | yeah I will |
| 19:10.04 | vhaarr | don't branch for syncing |
| 19:10.12 | vhaarr | but just sync with chat output and add some prefix to it |
| 19:10.20 | vhaarr | [BWHBA] Healing rotation: |
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| 19:11.53 | vhaarr | Kebinusan: roster:GetUnitObjectByName, I think it is |
| 19:11.58 | vhaarr | yeah you'll figure it out |
| 19:12.28 | Kebinusan | yeah I'll may take a stab at it if I get bored |
| 19:12.33 | haste | oh god, is the author of Flexbar converting it to Ace? /me points towards the curse lua channel |
| 19:12.54 | Mikma | Skyboat: you are right, !!!Libraries is too long |
| 19:13.02 | Kebinusan | haste, wow thats interesting |
| 19:13.04 | haste | (I'm guessing it's the same guy as the one who posted in the oRA thread ages ago, since he: acts like a dick) |
| 19:14.23 | haste | oh god... the person is actually doing it :< |
| 19:14.28 | malreth | who's acting like a dick this time? |
| 19:14.44 | Tem | haste, link me |
| 19:14.54 | haste | Tem, I can pastey the IRC log |
| 19:14.56 | mjc | haste: /wrists |
| 19:15.17 | Tem | haste, what channel is this? |
| 19:15.18 | kergoth | haste: it was inevitable that someone who doesnt share our priorities would end up using ace2 someday.. just sorry its today :P |
| 19:15.21 | vhaarr | haste: paste paste! |
| 19:15.21 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: the bars of the cooldown monitor disappeared when i reloaded ui |
| 19:15.23 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r12868 10oRA2/Optional/CoolDown.lua: |
| 19:15.23 | CIA-11 | oRA2: |
| 19:15.23 | CIA-11 | * do not create cooldown bars if we're not enabled or hidden. |
| 19:15.38 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: well obviously |
| 19:15.41 | vhaarr | fire and forget |
| 19:15.55 | mjc | ammo: nice :) |
| 19:15.57 | haste | http://hastey.pastey.net/1289-3iw6 |
| 19:15.59 | nevcairiel | ammo said they would stay :( |
| 19:16.06 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: they stay for me? |
| 19:16.28 | nevcairiel | i dunno, just got a combat rezz bar, did a reload ui and it was gone |
| 19:16.29 | [Ammo] | or rather they reappear :) |
| 19:17.20 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 19:17.22 | nevcairiel | now they are back |
| 19:17.28 | nevcairiel | didnt come back while i was a ghost |
| 19:17.29 | Tem | that guy needs a swift kick in the balls |
| 19:17.58 | malreth | dick... balls... this channel is AWESOME! |
| 19:18.15 | mjc | malreth: gay much? |
| 19:18.23 | kergoth | haste: hahah |
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| 19:18.32 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: nvm then, seems no bars while being dead :) |
| 19:18.32 | mjc | ratbert! long time no see |
| 19:18.35 | malreth | mjc: no. I can't. I'm a devout republican. |
| 19:18.39 | Mikma | hastey.pastey :D |
| 19:18.45 | malreth | go Bush! |
| 19:18.47 | nevcairiel | haha he renamed it |
| 19:18.53 | haste | Mikma, Yeh, I changed to it :D |
| 19:18.56 | mjc | Mikma: namby pamby |
| 19:19.28 | haste | http://hastey.pastey.net/1291-2u4a << I don't understand the windows commandline :( |
| 19:19.32 | haste | someone explain WHY that doesn't work :p |
| 19:19.45 | Mikma | stop protecting your urls :D |
| 19:19.55 | kergoth | haste: if that guy doesnt know the difference between . and : call semantics, yet is coding something as massive as flexbar, we've got issues ahead of us |
| 19:19.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:20.11 | haste | kergoth, yeh, and yet he tries ot use AceOO :på |
| 19:20.15 | haste | s/Ã¥// |
| 19:20.47 | haste | Mikma, I do it as a haibt :p |
| 19:23.43 | Ratbert_CP | Heya, mjc |
| 19:24.05 | Ratbert_CP | Oooo... Someone is trying to Deuce Flexbar? |
| 19:24.51 | mjc | yeah. |
| 19:24.53 | mjc | scary. |
| 19:25.01 | mjc | Ratbert_CP: deuce your momma |
| 19:25.14 | malreth | oooooooh! |
| 19:25.54 | snurre | hm |
| 19:26.26 | snurre | if ive swapped texture files with some custom ones, will winaceupdate overwrite them if deletebeforeupdate is false? |
| 19:26.28 | JoshBorke | how can I check to see if my svnsync is set up correctly? |
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| 19:26.47 | Pik|Silvermoon | Oh my. |
| 19:26.51 | Pik|Silvermoon | I like how Maia did localization. |
| 19:27.08 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12869 10/trunk/ (!!!Libraries/ !!!Libs/): Libraries: Renaming to shorter because this one breaks CandyBar |
| 19:27.21 | Pik|Silvermoon | Question: |
| 19:27.24 | Mikma | now i need to change the files and externals dum dum |
| 19:27.33 | eternally777 | Can someone test out FuBar_TrackerFu with multiple tracking abilities? |
| 19:27.41 | eternally777 | It worked on my priest, but he only has herbalism |
| 19:27.43 | Pik|Silvermoon | If you GetUnitClass() on a foreign language client, does it still return the US text? |
| 19:27.57 | CIA-11 | 03evilelvis * r12870 10eeMon/display.lua: eeMon: Bar width now properly calculated; fixes bug where entire 'bar' wasn't capturing mouse clicks. Small fix to Test() |
| 19:28.20 | Pik|Silvermoon | Or will "WARLOCK" be like "LeDemonio" |
| 19:28.20 | Pik|Silvermoon | Or whatever. |
| 19:28.29 | eternally777 | I think it has 2 returns |
| 19:28.34 | eternally777 | the first is localized |
| 19:28.37 | eternally777 | Search WoWWiki |
| 19:28.44 | JoshBorke | how does maia do localization? |
| 19:28.51 | eternally777 | And I think it's just "UnitClass()" |
| 19:29.09 | Pik|Silvermoon | You're correct about UnitClass() |
| 19:29.11 | Tem | "Hexemeister", "WARLOCK" = UnitClass(...) |
| 19:29.12 | Pik|Silvermoon | It has no get. |
| 19:29.21 | Pik|Silvermoon | And yes, it returns the english as a 2nd arg. |
| 19:29.22 | Pik|Silvermoon | Ok. |
| 19:29.44 | Pik|Silvermoon | Which is fine for internal, but if I want users to be able to specify their own language for the class I need to localize. |
| 19:29.46 | malreth | ~translate en de Warlock |
| 19:29.47 | Pik|Silvermoon | And just take 1st arg. |
| 19:29.58 | malreth | purl, thanks |
| 19:29.58 | purl | de nada, malreth |
| 19:30.12 | Pik|Silvermoon | Isn't hexenmeister like curse master? |
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| 19:30.20 | Tem | dunno |
| 19:30.24 | JoshBorke | your mom meister! |
| 19:30.29 | JoshBorke | er, um, sorry... |
| 19:30.33 | notMusic | Yeah |
| 19:30.34 | Tem | I don't know if that's the right german translation |
| 19:30.36 | malreth | ~translate de en hexemeister |
| 19:30.39 | notMusic | Curse master sounds correct |
| 19:30.49 | ven | Hexenmeister |
| 19:30.50 | Tem | heh |
| 19:30.54 | JoshBorke | ~translate de en hexenmeister |
| 19:30.58 | Pik|Silvermoon | Weird. |
| 19:31.02 | Pik|Silvermoon | Foreigners are so bizarre. |
| 19:31.09 | Pik|Silvermoon | !!! |
| 19:31.10 | JoshBorke | ~translate en de curse |
| 19:31.14 | Tem | I meant to have an n in there |
| 19:31.16 | tigg | fluch |
| 19:31.21 | malreth | ~translate en jp warlock |
| 19:31.28 | malreth | haha! |
| 19:31.33 | JoshBorke | ~translate en de priest |
| 19:31.42 | Tem | ~x en zh warlock |
| 19:31.42 | Pik|Silvermoon | Honestly. |
| 19:31.49 | Pik|Silvermoon | Who needs an extra -er on Priest? |
| 19:31.56 | haste | Germans |
| 19:32.03 | Tem | ~x en fr Shaman |
| 19:32.04 | Pik|Silvermoon | Apparently. |
| 19:32.06 | Pik|Silvermoon | Pfft. |
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| 19:32.10 | Tem | WRONG |
| 19:32.19 | Tem | Shamanne or something |
| 19:32.24 | Industrial | sjamaan ? |
| 19:32.29 | Industrial | (no idea) |
| 19:32.31 | malreth | le shamanne |
| 19:32.44 | malreth | :p |
| 19:32.51 | snurre | what's the status on oCB2 btw? |
| 19:33.00 | notMusic | Wouldn't shamanne note that its feminine? :P |
| 19:33.05 | Tem | I dunno |
| 19:33.22 | Tem | or maybe that's the german |
| 19:33.27 | haste | snurre, stalled, as I'm without a computer :p |
| 19:33.30 | Tem | I just remember seeing it |
| 19:33.35 | snurre | haste sucks! |
| 19:33.43 | haste | snurre, blame netshop |
| 19:33.47 | snurre | you're here now, you should spent your time fixing my addons! |
| 19:33.50 | malreth | ~translate jp en ä¸å‡ºã— |
| 19:34.00 | Pik|Silvermoon | Hmm. |
| 19:34.02 | Industrial | kek |
| 19:34.05 | snurre | fixing my addons is more important than anything and you should know that by now |
| 19:34.06 | Tem | bur |
| 19:34.07 | Pik|Silvermoon | Yes. In it puts out. |
| 19:34.07 | malreth | that's not quite right |
| 19:34.15 | haste | snurre, not my fault netshop is slow as hell :p |
| 19:34.27 | snurre | pfft :p |
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| 19:34.36 | malreth | ok... i've had enough perversion for one day |
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| 19:34.45 | snurre | never bought anything from there tho |
| 19:35.10 | snurre | good behaviour? wtf is that? |
| 19:35.23 | malreth | it's this... |
| 19:35.36 | snurre | ooh |
| 19:35.38 | snurre | im hungry |
| 19:35.42 | snurre | see! you made me hungry |
| 19:35.43 | malreth | it's made with ham and swiss |
| 19:35.48 | snurre | so you're not behaving good! :( |
| 19:36.07 | eternally777 | Does anyone know if Corgi is still in the modding scene? |
| 19:36.34 | eternally777 | Author of the FuBar Tracker |
| 19:36.48 | yacoob | Hmmm. |
| 19:36.50 | snurre | who made winaceupdater btw? |
| 19:36.58 | yacoob | Is there any addon that actually logs combatlog stuff to file? |
| 19:37.19 | eternally777 | yacoob: that feature is built into WoW |
| 19:37.27 | eternally777 | yacoob: /combatlog I think. |
| 19:37.58 | yacoob | ha, I knew about /chatlog :D |
| 19:38.00 | yacoob | thanks :D |
| 19:38.08 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12871 10!!!Libs/!!!Libs.toc: Libs: renamed toc |
| 19:39.13 | Kebinusan | eternally777, dunno, tekkub has a version of fubar tracker in branches though |
| 19:39.36 | eternally777 | Kebinusan: Orly? I committed an Ace2 version to trunk a few hours ago |
| 19:39.44 | mjc | I wouldn't waste the memory on a mod for managine "Find Herbs" kthx |
| 19:39.55 | eternally777 | mjc: you wouldn't |
| 19:39.57 | Kebinusan | his branch was 1.2 |
| 19:40.02 | mjc | well then wtf isthat for |
| 19:40.02 | eternally777 | mjc: But others would :P |
| 19:40.09 | mjc | corkfu does tracking |
| 19:40.14 | Kebinusan | mjc I just like not having the tracker icon on my minimap |
| 19:40.27 | Kebinusan | and im not a debuff class so I wouldnt waste the memory on corkfu |
| 19:40.35 | eternally777 | mjc: Just because it's not for you doesn't mean it's pointless :P |
| 19:40.50 | mjc | I like not having it on my minimap, so I just hide it completely. ;P |
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| 19:41.24 | Azurewrath | [Ammo]: What exactly should the oRA2 Cooldown thingie show? :) |
| 19:42.00 | [Ammo] | try it hsurg |
| 19:42.00 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 19:42.20 | Azurewrath | just did so.. or do.. shows nothing |
| 19:42.27 | oxman | :( |
| 19:42.30 | oxman | i want know too ! |
| 19:42.55 | [Ammo] | azurewrath, wait till some warlock uses a soulstone |
| 19:42.59 | [Ammo] | or a druid combat resses |
| 19:43.19 | oxman | i'm in bg i can't raid :( |
| 19:43.37 | Azurewrath | they did... FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu shows it.. the build in thingie not |
| 19:44.50 | Mikma | [Ammo]: i like the new mt-frames <3 |
| 19:44.53 | [FH]Birdemani | Ammo: Just created a raid, had a warlock cast a soulstone and place it on hemself, I am showing nothing on the monitor |
| 19:45.02 | oxman | [Ammo] modify perfectraid ! |
| 19:45.07 | oxman | i want perfectraid like mtframes |
| 19:45.07 | oxman | :') |
| 19:45.18 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r12872 10FuBar_TrackerFu/Locales/enUS.lua: |
| 19:45.18 | CIA-11 | TrackerFu: |
| 19:45.18 | CIA-11 | * Removed unused translations. |
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| 19:47.22 | lacindas | could somebody help me out with a couple of svn questions? |
| 19:48.48 | Thiana | Depends, are they answered by the wiki? |
| 19:49.41 | FISKER_Q | anyone remember the name of the addon on svn that shows durabillity and quality in character frame? |
| 19:49.49 | Talyn600m | fizzle |
| 19:49.49 | lacindas | one of them is an externals error (the 405 method not allowed one) just dont know how to fix it |
| 19:50.03 | FISKER_Q | thanks |
| 19:50.31 | lacindas | the other one, is Propfind of "/" moved permanently on wowace.com dunno what that means |
| 19:50.35 | Thiana | lacindas: The addon probably hasnt been updated yet. Which addon was it? |
| 19:50.55 | lacindas | oCB_huntershot in branches is the 405 |
| 19:51.03 | lacindas | so yeah, prolly not updated yet |
| 19:51.17 | lacindas | the 301 errors are from oApplicationa and tekAutoRep |
| 19:52.16 | Thiana | lacindas: k, one sec. |
| 19:52.51 | lacindas | ty :) |
| 19:53.56 | lacindas | also, ive got another question, is it possible to have a trunk version and a branch version of a mod installed at the same time (obviously not running at the same time, but being able to switch between them via mcp or something to try them out)? |
| 19:54.19 | CIA-11 | 03thiana * r12873 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Fixed externals on tekAutoRep, oApplication and oCB_Huntershots for lacindas |
| 19:54.30 | lacindas | ty thiana :D |
| 19:54.59 | Thiana | lacindas: Not usually, because WoW checks the name of the .toc. So if they're both AddonName.toc, wow only sees one of them. |
| 19:55.07 | oxman | [Ammo] there is a bug about scan for maintank :p |
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| 19:55.21 | oxman | you have pick the code from perfect raid |
| 19:55.24 | oxman | and its my code |
| 19:55.26 | lacindas | thats what i was figuring, maybe if i renamed the addon in the .toc? |
| 19:55.28 | oxman | and i've found a bug today |
| 19:55.51 | oxman | instead of "local tank = MRCTRA" put "local tank = MRCTRA or {}" |
| 19:55.56 | lacindas | for example, im curious to try the ag_uf branches out, but dont want to lose my ag_uf stuff |
| 19:55.58 | oxman | in fact its not in ora but ekkb2 sorry [Ammo] |
| 19:56.04 | oxman | Elkano read my messages please |
| 19:56.09 | lacindas | oh, they prolly use the same saved vars also |
| 19:56.13 | Thiana | lucindas: You could try moving them into directories with different names, then rename the .toc files to match the directory names. |
| 19:56.43 | lacindas | hrm, yeah, if i edit the toc to change the names it might work, worth a shot i spose hehe |
| 19:56.55 | Thiana | lacindas: Not edit the toc, *rename* it. |
| 19:57.15 | Thiana | lacindas: So agUF/agUF.toc -> agUF_New/agUF_New.toc |
| 19:57.18 | Galencia | someone is modifying tables reclaimed by compost! |
| 19:57.18 | lacindas | oh so modnamea.toc instead of modname.toc? |
| 19:57.34 | Thiana | lacindas: Yes. |
| 19:57.53 | lacindas | ahh gotcha, ild still probably need to edit the saved vars lines if i wanted to save my old settings tho correct? |
| 19:58.00 | Thiana | lacindas: Just make sure the .toc name matches the directory name. |
| 19:58.41 | Thiana | lacindas: No. Because Wow will save the vars in SavedVariables/agUF_New.lua, not the agUF.lua which the original uses. |
| 19:58.54 | lacindas | gotcha :D ty, ima give it a test run and try it out |
| 19:58.55 | Thiana | Just dont load them both at the same time, that would be ... messy. |
| 19:59.01 | lacindas | lol yeah |
| 19:59.08 | mjc | heh |
| 19:59.48 | lacindas | had that happen on accident a few times (tho not trunk/branch) when playing on a new server for the 1st time, funny seeing like 5 unitframes |
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| 20:00.36 | CIA-11 | 03jncl 07Jncl * r12874 10oSkin/oSkin/ (UIElements1.lua UIElements2.lua UIElements3.lua libs/): oSkin: minor Unitframe changes and externals fixed |
| 20:00.39 | lacindas | oxman: thats one of the ones i wanted to test out, the ace 2 ebb, not recommended? |
| 20:01.09 | oxman | you can try :) |
| 20:02.18 | lacindas | which branch are you using? i recall seeing 2 i think |
| 20:02.43 | oxman | branches |
| 20:02.44 | oxman | :) |
| 20:03.04 | lacindas | ox: yes, Kerg's or Elk's? |
| 20:03.21 | lacindas | im guessin elk's ebb2? |
| 20:03.25 | oxman | elk |
| 20:03.29 | oxman | maybe ker is better |
| 20:03.30 | oxman | not test |
| 20:03.30 | oxman | :) |
| 20:04.16 | lacindas | ima give elk's a try, maybe try kerg's after :) |
| 20:04.22 | oxman | ok |
| 20:04.50 | lacindas | gives me a chance to work on the .toc renaming stuff (ty thiana) hehe |
| 20:05.34 | lacindas | woot ebb2 dl'd, time to test :) |
| 20:05.53 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r12875 10FuBar_TrackerFu/ (FuBar_TrackerFu.lua FuBar_TrackerFu.toc Libs/): |
| 20:05.53 | CIA-11 | TrackerFu: |
| 20:05.53 | CIA-11 | * More externals! Can I get a yee-haw?! |
| 20:05.55 | oxman | :p |
| 20:06.02 | lacindas | yee-haw! |
| 20:06.11 | eternally777 | THAT'S what I'm talking about. |
| 20:06.15 | lacindas | haha |
| 20:07.28 | Elkano | oxman, mine is the only official ;) |
| 20:08.10 | lacindas | bah they both list on my addon list as "Elkano's Buffbar" dunno which is which lol |
| 20:08.11 | Elkano | and iirc ker's is based on ebb1 while mine is a almost total rewrite for ace2 and libs |
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| 20:08.46 | oxman | ok Elkano |
| 20:08.48 | oxman | but fix the bug :p |
| 20:09.04 | lacindas | Elkano: add that pretty little -Ace2- thing in your .toc ;P |
| 20:09.10 | oxman | +1 lacindas ;) |
| 20:09.17 | lacindas | lol |
| 20:09.24 | Elkano | lacindas, that's waht I was doing right now ^^ |
| 20:09.32 | lacindas | rofl |
| 20:09.50 | lacindas | guess ill save my toc edit and wait for your commit :D |
| 20:10.43 | oxman | Elkano you've fix the bug about mt ? |
| 20:10.48 | CIA-11 | 03elkano 07elkano * r12876 10ElkBuffBar/ebb_ace2/ElkBuffBar.toc: branches/ebb_ace2/ - updated toc |
| 20:10.53 | Elkano | mt? |
| 20:10.59 | oxman | look before |
| 20:11.05 | axxo | anyone ever had a 'HUGE names' bug? |
| 20:11.06 | oxman | i've do something about you with a highlight |
| 20:11.32 | axxo | like name+guild = 1/3 of my screen |
| 20:11.36 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 20:11.48 | Arrowmaster | disable displaying pc names then reenable it |
| 20:12.04 | Thiana | Elkano: Have the texture/buff charge things from Kergoth's branch been merged into the Ace2 one? |
| 20:12.24 | axxo | Arrowmaster: is it wow or some addon? |
| 20:12.29 | axxo | if you have any idea |
| 20:12.29 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 20:12.34 | vhaarr | wow indeed |
| 20:12.37 | vhaarr | very annoying |
| 20:12.52 | Elkano | oxman, but I can't see what you mean... (and it's ebb2 not ekkb2 ^^) |
| 20:12.55 | axxo | it was fun in the battleground when i could see pl coming from miles away, but not in aq40 :p |
| 20:12.57 | Arrowmaster | addons cant do anything to the 3d world, which the names are a part of |
| 20:13.03 | sciophobia | sometimes nice in BG when u can see them from a mile away |
| 20:13.07 | snurre | axxo: it's a random issue in the wow ui afaik |
| 20:13.10 | sciophobia | lol yea axxo |
| 20:13.17 | oxman | look your code so Elkano and you will understand ;) |
| 20:13.19 | snurre | sometimes happen when people go in and out of LoS |
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| 20:13.32 | oxman | you will find a local tank = MRCTA |
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| 20:13.40 | oxman | and replace it by local tank = MRCTA or {} |
| 20:13.46 | Elkano | nope, I won't |
| 20:13.48 | oxman | MRCTRA sorry |
| 20:14.00 | Elkano | since I do NOTHING with any MT |
| 20:14.02 | oxman | hum indeed sorry |
| 20:14.03 | oxman | mistake |
| 20:14.03 | oxman | :p |
| 20:16.04 | Elkano | wrt the other branch: atm I can only show on bar since CandyBar can't show anything on the icon, but I'm fine with that. Changing the bar texture is supported by CandyBar so this should be working later, I already laied some basic bricks for that |
| 20:16.36 | Thiana | k, thanks :) |
| 20:16.52 | Galencia | mmm getting a lot of errors from bartender2 |
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| 20:17.35 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r12877 10FuBar_TrackerFu/FuBar_TrackerFu.toc: |
| 20:17.35 | CIA-11 | TrackerFu: |
| 20:17.35 | CIA-11 | * Note to self: when you add externals, you must also add them to the TOC. |
| 20:18.40 | Kebinusan | heh |
| 20:20.26 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r12878 10AHFavorites/ (4 files): |
| 20:20.26 | CIA-11 | AHFavorites: |
| 20:20.26 | CIA-11 | - Big cleanups before the move to Ace2. |
| 20:22.37 | Shabador | *cry* Twin Emperors at 2% then Enrage... :( |
| 20:23.13 | Iceroth | put your feral druids dps'ing ;) |
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| 20:24.57 | Thiana | Anyone know what the eta on a non-Ace1 version of KCItems is? |
| 20:25.21 | Elkano | when it's done ;) |
| 20:25.22 | phyber | whenever Kael is done with it ;) |
| 20:25.23 | nevcairiel | i dont think its in the phase of an actual eta yet :D |
| 20:25.46 | Thiana | It's one of the last 3 ace1 addons I have :-/ |
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| 20:29.36 | lacindas | anyone know if theres a planned FinderReminder for ace2? |
| 20:30.08 | lacindas | startin to think ill always be using ace just for visor tho lol |
| 20:30.24 | Pik|Silvermoon | Anyone else noticing minimap buttons for ace2 addons like mrplow moving around the minimap on every load? |
| 20:30.50 | sciophobia | havent had a minimap icon for ace2 addons in a long time |
| 20:30.59 | Industrial | Pik|Silvermoon: yes, but only MrP |
| 20:31.02 | Industrial | MrPlow* |
| 20:31.04 | sciophobia | and mrplow is like pseudo-ace2 |
| 20:31.16 | Pik|Silvermoon | Oh. |
| 20:31.18 | oxman | [Ammo] ? |
| 20:31.23 | Pik|Silvermoon | I get it for outfitter too. |
| 20:31.27 | Pik|Silvermoon | But that's not ace2 come to think of it. |
| 20:31.32 | sciophobia | lol |
| 20:31.39 | Pik|Silvermoon | It's irritating. |
| 20:31.45 | sciophobia | i bet |
| 20:31.49 | Pik|Silvermoon | Every time I reloadui my icons rotate 10 degrees or so. |
| 20:32.02 | Industrial | Im having so much fun with my level 50 char |
| 20:32.02 | Industrial | :P |
| 20:32.06 | lacindas | thiana: glad you mentioned KCI, was one of the branches i was going to try/test out =\ |
| 20:32.12 | Industrial | questing all over the place \o/ |
| 20:32.20 | vhaarr | Pik|Silvermoon: That's how it works, if the mod doesn't define a default position, it picks a random one. |
| 20:32.32 | sciophobia | when i used moveanything, the icons would move 20-50 pixels OFF the minimap |
| 20:32.35 | sciophobia | that was really nasty |
| 20:32.55 | Pik|Silvermoon | Eww |
| 20:34.34 | Pik|Silvermoon | Ok. |
| 20:34.39 | Pik|Silvermoon | Timing question. |
| 20:34.50 | Pik|Silvermoon | Metrognome-2.0 or AceEvent-2.0 |
| 20:35.00 | Thiana | AceEvent in 99% of situations. |
| 20:35.12 | Arrowmaster | i think the moving icons if from fubarplugin icons that dont have a set default possiton |
| 20:35.23 | Pik|Silvermoon | Metro only if I need it to repeat at defined intervals? |
| 20:35.52 | eternally777 | seen neronix |
| 20:35.58 | eternally777 | ~seen neronix |
| 20:36.12 | purl | neronix <i=neronix@user-544027d4.l6.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 21h 17m 37s ago, saying: 'if you want to sort the table by key, you could table.insert all the keys into a temp table, sort that and then iterate that to sort the original'. |
| 20:36.12 | Thiana | ~seen Tain |
| 20:36.15 | purl | tain is currently on #wowi-lounge (14h 8m 18s) #wowace (14h 8m 18s), last said: 'You kin do it!'. |
| 20:36.17 | Pik|Silvermoon | Oh. No I see aceevent can do repeats. |
| 20:36.19 | Pik|Silvermoon | Nice nice. |
| 20:37.15 | lacindas | elkano: nice work on the .toc update, now i know which is which ;) |
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| 20:40.20 | JoshBorke | mmmk, back |
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| 20:47.28 | Mikma | [Ammo]: *wah* *wah* my friend is whining to me that he want's a alt-selfcast :( |
| 20:47.41 | [Ammo] | Mikma: tell him to STFU |
| 20:48.04 | Mikma | he told me to mod EgoCast to support alt+selfcast also :( |
| 20:48.12 | Mikma | so i may have to do my own booo |
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| 20:51.34 | Mikma | thank god your code is simple so i can add a toggle for it easily :P and have the toggle be OFF by default muah muah |
| 20:52.53 | nevcairiel | alt-selfcast is soo simple |
| 20:52.58 | [Ammo] | as long as you don't commit :p |
| 20:53.18 | Mikma | no i won't |
| 20:53.32 | Azurewrath | Mikma: you wrote Bartender2, right? :) |
| 20:53.38 | Mikma | Azurewrath: some of it yes |
| 20:54.07 | nevcairiel | http://ace.pastey.net/1301 |
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| 20:54.35 | nevcairiel | @mikma ^^ |
| 20:54.42 | Mikma | nevcairiel: cool, thanks :) |
| 20:54.52 | Azurewrath | short question... is it possible to create a bar with 4x 12 or 13 buttons, which can be swapped to page1 and page2 with shift+1 and shift+2? Resulting in like 96 buttons or somewhat |
| 20:55.08 | Mikma | nevcairiel: so that's for both? alt and normal click? |
| 20:55.16 | Mikma | Azurewrath: no |
| 20:55.17 | CIA-11 | 03thiana * r12879 10FuBar_uGuild/Core.lua: FuBar_uGuild: Fix for motd not showing (from notMusic) |
| 20:55.24 | nevcairiel | that works with alt-hotkey and alt-click |
| 20:55.33 | nevcairiel | and only that |
| 20:55.38 | Mikma | ok then |
| 20:55.40 | dreyruugr | Why would you do that? |
| 20:55.44 | nevcairiel | acehook useaction, obviously |
| 20:55.54 | dreyruugr | that's an evil hook |
| 20:55.55 | Azurewrath | damn.. guess it's true then that there is no real DAB replacement.. *sigh* |
| 20:56.18 | Mikma | dab is unique. hence the memusage |
| 20:56.31 | nevcairiel | whats make that hook evil ? :) |
| 20:56.51 | dreyruugr | You're hooking UseAction... any addon that calls it get's owned by that hook |
| 20:56.53 | Mikma | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/EgoCast/EgoCast.lua |
| 20:57.27 | nevcairiel | any addon that wants to use a spell should selfcast when alt is down |
| 20:57.30 | nevcairiel | so i dont see a problem |
| 20:57.31 | mjc | Azurewrath: truth be told most of hte stuff DAB can do you wouldn't want to do. |
| 20:57.37 | dreyruugr | For example, someone using Alt+Key to open a Sprocket menu, would now get self cast |
| 20:57.46 | chrisa | Azurewrath: To quote a guildmate "I just set up bongos in 30 seconds to do what took me 30 minutes in DAB" |
| 20:57.47 | Thrae | Azurewrath: Visor+VisorButtons, but it's Ace1 |
| 20:57.56 | dreyruugr | nevcairiel: That's not true at all |
| 20:57.57 | chrisa | But maybe you use the more advanced options |
| 20:58.15 | nevcairiel | dreyruugr: i dont use sprocket, and dont use alt for anything then selfcast, and its only my own simple mod for quick ui hacks |
| 20:58.17 | Thrae | Visor can do far more then DAB can, but you need to know a bit of lua. |
| 20:58.26 | Azurewrath | chrisa: indeed, i do. |
| 20:58.47 | chrisa | I used to use flexbar and a hell of a lot of scripts/events |
| 20:58.48 | dreyruugr | I use at for all of my bottom left action bar buttons, for example |
| 20:58.52 | chrisa | These days I'm too lazy for that |
| 20:58.56 | add\\Leialyn | Can I commit stuff with SVN or do I need some kind of registration ? |
| 20:58.58 | Mikma | NINJAMOVE of the day: http://ftw.generation.no/img/stealsthepeach.jpg |
| 20:59.04 | dreyruugr | Last thing I need is some AddOn deciding that alt always means self-cast |
| 20:59.11 | Mikma | have fun i'm off to sleepyland |
| 20:59.11 | Arrowmaster | i still dislike EgoCasts use of UnitIsFriend |
| 20:59.35 | Mikma | Arrowmaster: well make us a Telo's SelfCast Ace2 |
| 20:59.36 | Mikma | gn |
| 21:00.01 | Arrowmaster | or i could just mod it to not use UnitIsFriend |
| 21:00.11 | mjc | selfcast blows |
| 21:00.28 | Azurewrath | i have one bar with 24 buttons and 2 pages, resulting in 48 buttons.. switchable with shift+1/2 and another static bar with 26 buttons.. with the buttonsize, font, fontsize etc. that i wan't.. found no mod able do do that besides DAB.. |
| 21:00.34 | mjc | alt is self cast as it is. |
| 21:00.34 | nevcairiel | dreyruugr: it fits my needs, and thats all i wrote it for :) |
| 21:00.56 | Thrae | Why doesn't EgoCast use SpellCanTargetUnit() or whatever it's named? |
| 21:01.04 | mjc | add\\Leialyn: email claidhaire |
| 21:01.12 | Arrowmaster | exactly my point thrae |
| 21:01.23 | add\\Leialyn | 2(mjc2): humn what should I write |
| 21:01.43 | Thrae | If you're worried about if your cursor already has a spell, there's CursorHasSpell() |
| 21:01.51 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r12880 10Squishy/ (core.lua frames.lua): Squishy: small changes in layout code |
| 21:02.01 | Arrowmaster | it looks like it would give an out of range error if you tried to cast a heal spell while dueling somebody thats in your party/raid |
| 21:02.35 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: It doesn't even use UnitIsVisible()? |
| 21:02.46 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r12881 10Detox/Detox.lua: Detox: reverting to old targetting code. Might fix auto-attack problem. |
| 21:03.01 | add\\Leialyn | I wondered why Kel Detonate Mana announce did not work... discovered, someone namend the sincstart event KelDetonate and sync find event KelDetonation xD |
| 21:03.06 | Arrowmaster | no it doesnt, have a look at the code |
| 21:03.16 | Thrae | Weird... |
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| 21:05.05 | dreyruugr | what's sincstart? |
| 21:06.46 | dreyruugr | nm |
| 21:06.46 | mjc | misspelled version of syncstart I'd think |
| 21:06.48 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Ohh I see what he's trying to do...it seems when you hook UseAction, it removes the error when someone's out of range. Since EgoCast:UseAction calls the original UseAction first, if the spell in your cursor had a valid target, then your cursor should no longer have a spell in it. |
| 21:07.04 | Industrial | Whats a Troll Tribal Necklace for? its a white item but wowhead only listed an alliance quest. |
| 21:07.19 | Anomoly | turn in for rep with wildhammer clan |
| 21:07.24 | neale | yep |
| 21:07.29 | Anomoly | its alliance only but anyone can pick them up |
| 21:07.41 | mjc | id, try thottbot and alla too :P |
| 21:08.09 | mjc | kergoth: be nice if svkco.py were faster :( |
| 21:08.12 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: i thought that was so it wouldnt selfcast if you were targeting somebody in your party that was in another zone |
| 21:09.03 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Well, UnitIsFriend would do that too, but he's using UnitIsFriend to differentiate between an ally and a neutral NPC |
| 21:09.07 | Tekkub | what nerotransmitter is it that cause goosebumps? |
| 21:09.17 | Tekkub | endorphine? |
| 21:09.20 | Tekkub | no.. |
| 21:09.25 | Thrae | s/UnitIsFriend/calling the original UseAction/ |
| 21:09.36 | Arrowmaster | but UnitIsFriend shouldnt be used for detecting friendly targets |
| 21:10.34 | Arrowmaster | http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-interface-customization/188996.htm |
| 21:10.48 | Thrae | I like (UnitCanAttack("player","target") or UnitCanAttack("target","player")) myself |
| 21:11.50 | lacindas | Id: necklace is for turn-ins for wildhammer clan faction in hinterlands |
| 21:12.00 | Tekkub | ah, it's adrenaline... I like self-induced mini adrenaline rushes :) |
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| 21:12.50 | Arrowmaster | i showed that link to him when he first started rewriting SuperSelfCast but he still used UnitIsFriend |
| 21:14.08 | oxman | use EP_SimpleCast |
| 21:14.09 | oxman | :) |
| 21:14.44 | eternally777 | How do you get date() to return the date in table form? |
| 21:14.47 | kergoth | mjc: yeah, it seems like svk propget is pretty slow, and since it has to traverse every path and get for externals on each... |
| 21:14.49 | eternally777 | *t? |
| 21:15.04 | kergoth | i cant be trusted in a barnes and noble |
| 21:15.06 | kergoth | i spend too much |
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| 21:16.40 | lacindas | elkano: still around? |
| 21:16.48 | Elkano | hmm? |
| 21:16.58 | lacindas | ebb2 doesnt show weapon buffs? |
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| 21:17.20 | Elkano | well, it does, but for some reason it doesn't update when one is applied... |
| 21:17.45 | lacindas | ahh i see, yeah jus logged my shammy, lightning shield showed fine, windfury nothing |
| 21:18.18 | lacindas | i did a quick run through the .lua, no /commands or ways to move the anchors yet? |
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| 21:19.20 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r12882 10EgoCast/EgoCast.lua: EgoCast -- UnitIsFriend gives conflicting results in and out of group, so switched the code to use (not UnitCanAttack("player", "target") and not UnitCanAttack("target", "player")) |
| 21:20.34 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Try Egocast and see if it still works |
| 21:20.49 | Arrowmaster | ok ill have to install it |
| 21:21.02 | Thrae | Freed up like 3 lines with the new code, heh |
| 21:21.11 | [Ammo] | grrrr thrae |
| 21:21.29 | [Ammo] | if you messed it up for me I will revert your code |
| 21:22.10 | lacindas | elkano: switching to ghostwolf popped up windfury as a temp buff (might help sort that out somehow lol) |
| 21:22.27 | kergoth | lacindas: yep, it picks it up if you gain/lose another buff/debuff |
| 21:22.46 | Elkano | lacindas, alt + drag |
| 21:22.55 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r12883 10EgoCast/libs/: EgoCast -- Added AceHook-2.0 external, since it uses AceHook-2.0. |
| 21:23.04 | [Ammo] | because I've never had problems with it |
| 21:23.12 | [Ammo] | so please don't mess around with my addon sigh |
| 21:24.06 | kergoth | poor ammo, everybody poking at his things |
| 21:24.11 | Pik|Silvermoon | That's opensource for you. |
| 21:24.25 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r12884 10EgoCast/EgoCast.toc: EgoCast -- Whoops, forgot to add AceHook to the TOC. |
| 21:24.26 | Arrowmaster | UnitIsFriend returns true when your dueling somebody in your party, so it could have given out of range errors instead of selfcasting |
| 21:25.12 | kergoth | mjc: i hate perl. |
| 21:25.36 | [Ammo] | well if he changed 1 piece of the behaviour or it doesn't do what it did for me before I'll just revert the code |
| 21:25.42 | [Ammo] | write your own selfcasting addon if you need it |
| 21:25.47 | [Ammo] | it's not hard, but don't mess with mine |
| 21:26.30 | kergoth | if you dont want people touching it, get clad to change the perms and quit whining |
| 21:26.34 | Arrowmaster | i was actually in the middle of copying yours and modifiying it myself before he commited that change |
| 21:26.34 | Thrae | The WoWAce SVN is for freedom of open source development...are you saying all your addons are yours to modify and yours to modify alone? |
| 21:26.44 | [Ammo] | that's not what I'm saying |
| 21:26.51 | kergoth | sure sounds like it to me. |
| 21:26.52 | [Ammo] | I'm saying if you changed the behaviour of the addon I will revert |
| 21:27.17 | [Ammo] | because it's coded for very specific behaviour |
| 21:27.23 | [Ammo] | as explained on the forums already as well |
| 21:27.56 | Thrae | How more specific can you be? If you have an invalid target or out of range, it self-casts, right? |
| 21:27.59 | kergoth | its a given that if the maintainer doenst like someone else changes to his code, he'll revert. there's no point bringing it up imho |
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| 21:28.16 | Sole | ZOMGHAI |
| 21:28.30 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:28.34 | kergoth | hey sole |
| 21:28.35 | [Ammo] | or I'll just add EgoCastOriginal and let you mess with it some more :) |
| 21:29.06 | Sole | so |
| 21:29.37 | Sole | when I was away I had some spare time and wrote some code for self buffs/debuffs and a bunch of other shit and I come back to see Chronometer >_< |
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| 21:30.08 | kergoth | in my opinion, in general it isnt kosher to manipulate features or behavior of someone elses addon in the trunk without their consent. bugfixes, certainly, but feature adds or behavioral changes belong in a branch until its okayed |
| 21:30.35 | Thrae | Well since slouken specifically said "don't use UnitIsFriend for targeting purposes", this is suppose to be a bugfix. |
| 21:31.07 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r12885 10oSkin/oSkin.toc: oSkin - TOC tweaks |
| 21:31.11 | Arrowmaster | hostelbar was bloated anyway with debuffs, just like necb imho |
| 21:31.34 | [Ammo] | Thrae: probably is just saying don't change the behaviour |
| 21:31.53 | vhaarr | kergoth: You changed BanzaiAlert ;) |
| 21:32.00 | vhaarr | Not that I care much. |
| 21:32.08 | neale | haha |
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| 21:32.29 | Thiana | *sigh* My candybar textures have disappeared again. |
| 21:33.52 | [Ammo] | stop using faulty addons! |
| 21:34.01 | [Ammo] | my candybar textures have _never_ disappeared |
| 21:34.17 | neale | thats because you are a god, ammo |
| 21:34.25 | Thiana | [Ammo], define 'faulty'.. |
| 21:34.48 | Thrae | [Ammo]: Your addon is well-named by your devotion to its stated perfection ;) |
| 21:34.54 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 21:35.30 | kergoth | god i hope kael finishes combine |
| 21:35.31 | [Ammo] | Thiana: well not sure, but there are some 'old' candybar libs around in released addons |
| 21:35.39 | kergoth | groupcalendar's 7.5K/s increase is bothering me |
| 21:35.43 | [Ammo] | if all your candybar using addons are up-to-date it should work fine |
| 21:36.20 | CIA-11 | 03ratbert * r12886 10QuartermasterLib/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:36.20 | CIA-11 | QuartermasterLib: |
| 21:36.20 | CIA-11 | Fixed up TOC |
| 21:36.27 | Sole | hmm so should I just checkout a new copy of hostelbar from the new svn? |
| 21:37.14 | Thrae | Aren't there a few addons which include their LoD modules inside one addon folder? |
| 21:37.42 | CIA-11 | 03ratbert * r12887 10BagBoy2/ (. BagBoy2.lua BagBoy2.toc Libs/): |
| 21:37.42 | CIA-11 | BagBoy2: |
| 21:37.42 | CIA-11 | Cleaned up embedded lib structure |
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| 21:38.27 | Xuerian | Thrae: Is it possible to include them in one folder? |
| 21:38.27 | MoonWolf | crn.lir.dk |
| 21:38.34 | MoonWolf | lua webpages! |
| 21:38.50 | Thrae | Xuerian: That's what I'm wondering. I thought I heard Tekkub talking about that. |
| 21:38.59 | Thiana | Elkano, First time ebb_ace2 has the bars on screen nicely. I restart wow and now they're gone? *confused* |
| 21:39.31 | Elkano | most likely they are anchored to (0, 0) :/ |
| 21:39.43 | Elkano | check the savedvars |
| 21:39.45 | Xuerian | Thrae: Seems like it'd be nice in some situations, thought about it, never tried it though. Seems like it since wow doesn't so much care about addon entries other than load order, concerning their folder name |
| 21:42.22 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r12888 10VitalWatch/VitalWatch.lua: VitalWatch -- I'm too lazy to check, but someone removed an if without removing its matching end, probably me. Fixed. |
| 21:45.06 | Arrowmaster | ok just tested EgoCast in a duel with somebody in my party and it seems to be working perfectly, except for one thing which i think is unavoidable, when we went so far away from each other while dueling that we couldnt see each other it gave me the out of range error |
| 21:45.40 | Arrowmaster | but then i tested some functions and it doesnt look like you can get any info on if your target is attackable or not when you cant see them |
| 21:46.52 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: And it was giving you different behavior before while dueling? |
| 21:48.00 | Arrowmaster | i actually never had it installed before but just knew that since unitisfriend would have returned true it should have given an out of range error instead of selfcasting |
| 21:48.29 | Sole | hmm |
| 21:48.34 | Sole | Im thinking here |
| 21:48.39 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: If you're in the same party or raid, yeah |
| 21:49.17 | Arrowmaster | i think the original SuperSelfCast has the same error and somebody was trying some really complicated stuff to try and detect when you started dueling instead of just not using UnitIsFriend |
| 21:50.17 | Sole | I had plans to add/seperate HostelBar groups into: Casts, Cooldowns, Hostile Buffs, Friendly Buffs, Self Buffs, Self Debuffs, Hostile Debuffs, Friendly Debuffs, but with Chronometer do you guys think the self buffs/friendly buffs/hostile debuffs sections are necesarry? |
| 21:50.35 | Arrowmaster | no their not sole |
| 21:50.49 | Sole | thought so |
| 21:51.23 | Sole | Im actually thinking of removing the Durations group from hostel |
| 21:51.39 | Arrowmaster | its too much work to get 'proper' debuff detection that it shouldnt be part of your mod when you should be focusing on the hostile stuff |
| 21:51.57 | Sole | extra processing for something that exists in an addon most will people use, correct? |
| 21:52.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 21:52.13 | Sole | its a right ol bitch to get 'proper' debuff detection Ill tell you that |
| 21:52.23 | kergoth | Sole: i disabled durations myself and went with chronometer, which is more stable for those things |
| 21:53.06 | Elkano | sole, for self buffs/debuffs we have ebb ;) |
| 21:53.28 | Sole | kergoth: It worked like a charm before but then people wanted to see only your own durations which requires a completely different approach which Im not all that keen to do seeing as its already done |
| 21:53.39 | Sole | Elkano: true, knock those out too |
| 21:53.47 | Sole | Im goin back to simple |
| 21:53.48 | kergoth | ebb+chronometer+hostelbar+oCD = happy kergoth |
| 21:53.57 | Sole | casts, cooldowns, buffs |
| 21:54.09 | Sole | all hostile |
| 21:54.18 | Arrowmaster | Sole: somebody posted on the forums about hostlebar not having as much spell info as necb does, stuff like only having a 10 second duration for iceblock and no cooldown timer, that should be something to work on more instead of stuff that other addons do |
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| 21:54.30 | Elkano | main thing I need is showing stuff like cc spells |
| 21:54.32 | Sole | Arrowmaster: that exists now |
| 21:54.41 | Sole | Elkano: hmm? |
| 21:55.00 | Elkano | well, that's what I use Hostle for atm ^^ |
| 21:55.18 | Arrowmaster | cc spells? like durations or being cast? |
| 21:55.34 | Elkano | like: mob is still stuned for 4secs |
| 21:55.42 | Sole | Arrowmaster: some spells have a cd value also, if hostel finds a cd value then it will start a cooldown bar with the name of that spell and the time set to the cd value |
| 21:55.48 | snurre | heh |
| 21:55.53 | snurre | servers do0wn for 36h |
| 21:55.54 | snurre | gg |
| 21:55.56 | Sole | Elkano: oh so like cehapshot durations? |
| 21:55.59 | kergoth | Elkano: chronometer shows kidney shots and stuff like a charm |
| 21:56.01 | Xuerian | Like: Polymorph on Blackrock Assassin has 1 second left. (x3). Oh shit. >_< |
| 21:56.01 | kergoth | works great |
| 21:56.05 | Elkano | exactly |
| 21:56.17 | Elkano | so maybe I'm using the wrong addon then ^^ |
| 21:56.24 | Sole | Elkano: Im shitting on my own addon, use Chronometer instead :P |
| 21:56.27 | Xuerian | Chronometer does do it well =D |
| 21:56.28 | Arrowmaster | Elkano, that sounds like stuff that shouldnt be part of hostelbar |
| 21:56.41 | [Ammo] | Chronometer needs a patch to work from macro's |
| 21:56.48 | [Ammo] | or rather a hook for CastSpell |
| 21:57.16 | Sole | I started doing what I disliked about NECB, straying from the purpose |
| 21:57.45 | [Ammo] | Chronometer doesn't work for my AmpCoA macro :) |
| 21:57.52 | Sole | neither does hostel :) |
| 21:57.58 | Xuerian | Is the zip script going nuts again, or is !!!Libs external'd wrong? :P |
| 21:57.59 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if chronometer has the same 'bug/feature' that acetimer did with banish.... removing the bar whenever there was any banish fades mesage |
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| 21:58.11 | Elkano | btw: I took your anchor code from Hostle for EBB2. hope you don't mind |
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| 21:58.21 | Sole | Elkano: not at all |
| 21:58.30 | Sole | Elkano: actually I have some revised anchor code on paper |
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| 21:58.38 | Sole | Ive got dynamic anchors |
| 21:59.13 | Sole | what I mean is you can create/delete anchors and set which types of spells appear under which anchor |
| 21:59.36 | Sole | not sure if that will be necesarry anymore though, seeing as Im cutting chunks out of hostel now |
| 22:00.30 | Arrowmaster | *sigh* i need to get svn access... nightdew never corrected his SpellStatusLib toc after i told him it was out of order |
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| 22:01.40 | snurre | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.42 | snurre | :( |
| 22:01.50 | Arrowmaster | looks like he also forget to set svn:keywords |
| 22:02.21 | CIA-11 | 03jncl * r12889 10oSkin/ (5 files): oSkin: Added Support for !ImprovedErrorFrame, SuperMacro, MailTO, HoloFriends (thanks to next96), hopefully fixed all errors on pages 31-34 of the forum posts, except RaidFrame (yet) |
| 22:04.18 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: What's wrong with it? LastDate? |
| 22:04.35 | BoltR | Oh man, pinpoint actually shows stuff on the world map now for me |
| 22:04.52 | lacindas | yeah man, pimpoint is wtfgood |
| 22:04.56 | lacindas | *pinpoint |
| 22:05.23 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr, SpellStatus-AimedShot is before SpellStatus when the first requires the latter |
| 22:05.35 | Xuerian | Add temporary points/permanent points via console, and it'd win XD |
| 22:06.07 | BoltR | Well, there is manual.lua |
| 22:06.13 | BoltR | So i'm guessing it's going to be able to do that eventually ;p |
| 22:06.22 | CIA-11 | 03ratbert * r12890 10BagBoy2/Libs/: |
| 22:06.22 | CIA-11 | BagBoy2: |
| 22:06.22 | CIA-11 | Stupid externals typo... |
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| 22:06.52 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r12891 10SpellStatusLib/SpellStatusLib.toc: SpellStatusLib: Fix load order of libs. |
| 22:06.58 | Xuerian | Hope the YAtlas author picks it up too.... Rumors of a new YAtlas core, and Atlas using said core bring up interesting prospects |
| 22:07.00 | Kaelten | ok I just changed a gentlement with an offensive username to TotoTheWonderPuppy |
| 22:07.37 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:07.48 | Kaelten | apparently Zasranec means something rather nasty in russian |
| 22:07.53 | Xuerian | Lol, where at, Kaelten? The forums? |
| 22:08.00 | Kaelten | Xuerian: yes |
| 22:08.05 | Xuerian | Hehe |
| 22:08.15 | Sole | lol fucking it , Im gonna write a new addon |
| 22:08.18 | Sole | fuck it* |
| 22:08.24 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1715.msg48568#msg48568 |
| 22:08.35 | kergoth | Sole: rewriting hostelbar? oftentimes a rewrite is the best solution, start from scartch |
| 22:09.08 | Sole | kergoth: indeed it is...ive often redone stuff 3 or 4 times and every time it becomes better and cleaner :) |
| 22:09.32 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:09.33 | kergoth | indeed |
| 22:09.35 | Sole | and the hostelbar chat commands are too fucked up even for me |
| 22:10.13 | kergoth | deucecommander spoils ya |
| 22:10.15 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:10.44 | clad|sleep | i've not seen DC at all |
| 22:10.54 | kergoth | is XAD usable yet? |
| 22:10.59 | kergoth | looks like 0.3 just errors |
| 22:11.05 | Tain | I went to DC for the Fourth of July one year. |
| 22:11.37 | vhaarr | cladhaire: you know that error I got and reported on Clique? I just got it again today when I was rightclicking around inside a if statement to try to get the context menu up |
| 22:11.50 | vhaarr | Clique\CliqueOptions.lua:514: Dewdrop-2.0: Bad argument #2 to `Open' (table expected, got nil) |
| 22:12.01 | cladhaire | vhaarr: so weird |
| 22:12.06 | cladhaire | =/ |
| 22:12.16 | cladhaire | can you reopen it, or post it again i forget if i deleted it or not. |
| 22:12.22 | cladhaire | most of hte bugs i thougth i got came back =/ |
| 22:12.25 | vhaarr | cladhaire: and then when I rightclicked outside the if statement again nothing happened |
| 22:12.42 | vhaarr | cladhaire: you commented "Cannot reproduce, just marking it off as a library issue at this point." |
| 22:12.55 | cladhaire | lolk |
| 22:13.21 | vhaarr | cladhaire: and another thing, when opening the Clique frame, the dropdown at the top and the contents of the action list is not synced |
| 22:13.29 | vhaarr | if I set it to "Default hostile" and close and reopen |
| 22:13.40 | vhaarr | it will still be set to "Default hostile" but show Default friendly |
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| 22:13.49 | cladhaire | ... that shouldn't be the case anymore. |
| 22:13.54 | vhaarr | well it is |
| 22:13.54 | cladhaire | i fixed that a LONG time ago |
| 22:14.11 | kergoth | ah, a quick change tto the default xad profile and it actually seems to work |
| 22:14.25 | kergoth | needs popout bars showing the available items in that category like autobar does though :) |
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| 22:14.47 | vhaarr | cladhaire: I'm running trunk Clique .. not that I know of any branches, but. |
| 22:14.49 | kergoth | jesus, xad is 125K |
| 22:14.51 | kergoth | autobar is 1.8 megs |
| 22:14.53 | vhaarr | cladhaire: svn update gives nothing. |
| 22:14.58 | JoshBork1 | o.O cladhaire is back? |
| 22:15.03 | Sole | hmm |
| 22:15.09 | Tain | "A double bass is like a woman. It's fat and likes to be slapped." |
| 22:15.22 | vhaarr | lol tain |
| 22:15.30 | vhaarr | so true |
| 22:15.46 | Sole | HostelBar's casts - should I keep it restricted to only enemy casting times or is anyone interested in friendly casting times? |
| 22:16.01 | Azurewrath | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaQX-Rj5ZpM&mode=related&search= |
| 22:16.06 | Arrowmaster | ok heres a question, !!!Libs had a changelog entry saying "(AceOO uses Compost if available, AceDB uses Dewdrop if available)" is there anyway to make an optimization like this using the standalone Ace2, CompostLib, and DewdropLib? |
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| 22:16.11 | Arrowmaster | sole, enemy |
| 22:16.21 | alkis | hello all |
| 22:16.32 | Sole | hai |
| 22:16.35 | Tain | I only care about enemy, I'd turn off friendly if it were there. |
| 22:16.54 | Sole | just asking, figure Id make sure nobody cared than assume :) |
| 22:17.17 | Tain | That's a terrible way to go about things! |
| 22:17.23 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:17.28 | Sole | :P |
| 22:17.28 | Tain | Do what *you* want, and tell the rest to piss off. |
| 22:17.32 | BoltR | As long as it has enemy casts/durations and my duration buffs |
| 22:17.32 | Tain | Wait |
| 22:17.34 | BoltR | err debuffs |
| 22:17.36 | Tain | And what *I* want |
| 22:17.37 | BoltR | stuff like demo shout |
| 22:17.38 | kergoth | okay, xad kicks ass. just needs a couple more features and i'll drop autobar like a bad habit |
| 22:17.39 | BoltR | Then i'm happy |
| 22:17.40 | kergoth | which i might do anyway |
| 22:17.56 | Sole | BoltR: it wont have durations soon |
| 22:18.01 | alkis | does lua have eval()? |
| 22:18.02 | Arrowmaster | sole, i do care about a feature to have target only cast bars but all enemy buff bars if that hasnt be added yet =) |
| 22:18.06 | BoltR | Boo |
| 22:18.17 | Sole | BoltR: Choronometer deals with it much better ^_^ |
| 22:18.24 | BoltR | Ook |
| 22:18.31 | Sole | Arrowmaster: hmm thats nifty |
| 22:18.33 | BoltR | Does that include enemy stuff? |
| 22:18.45 | BoltR | As iceblock duration is very helpful |
| 22:18.47 | Sole | BoltR: it includes buffs/debuffs YOU cast |
| 22:19.03 | Sole | BoltR: iceblock duration falls under enemy buffs, which hostel tracks |
| 22:19.08 | BoltR | Ok |
| 22:19.09 | vhaarr | cladhaire: http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cliquesa4.jpg - of course it's no big deal at all, just looks weird. |
| 22:19.13 | BoltR | That is what I was actually asking |
| 22:19.16 | BoltR | If hostel will still do that |
| 22:19.19 | Sole | yea |
| 22:19.24 | Arrowmaster | Sole: i think i suggested that feature to you a while ago and you said youd look into it |
| 22:19.24 | vhaarr | cladhaire: Icon is smaller than the others and the clique frame is overlapped by the icons a bit |
| 22:19.50 | Sole | Arrowmaster: Im also thinking of adding a ToT feature to casts |
| 22:19.59 | Sole | Arrowmaster: I think you did and I probably forgot about it |
| 22:21.16 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r12892 10FuBar_TinyTipFu/libs/: FuBar_TinyTipFu: Updated externals to newer public repository |
| 22:21.43 | kergoth | wonder how he's gonna work it out in xad when multiple modules can handle the same item |
| 22:22.03 | kergoth | need a way to preconfigure what the slots do by module instead of by dragging an item over |
| 22:22.07 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r12893 10FuBar_WhisperFu/ (. FuBar_WhisperFu.toc WhisperFu.lua WhisperFuLocale-enUS.lua): FuBar_WhisperFu: Initial import - simple whisper manager ala TitanChatHistory |
| 22:22.45 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah what about different cast times for pvp and pve like necb? only a 2.5 sec casting bar for player frostbolt/shadowbolt but a 3 sec casting bar for mob frostbolt/shadowbolt? |
| 22:23.20 | Arrowmaster | or is hostelbar going to be just pvp based? |
| 22:24.42 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r12894 10FuBar_WhisperFu/ (4 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_WhisperFu: Added svn:eol-style to files. Added external libraries links |
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| 22:25.06 | lacindas | kerg: did someone commit a fix for xad yet or is it still buttonless unless you manually edit? |
| 22:26.08 | BoltR | I don't think there is a way to make it only active in PVP :/ |
| 22:26.12 | alkis | is there an eval in lua? something that will do this: local foo = "bar"; eval("foo") == "bar" <-- true |
| 22:26.46 | cladhaire | they will be the same |
| 22:26.52 | cladhaire | you dont need an eval |
| 22:26.53 | kergoth | lacindas: it seems buttonless by default, i just dragged over a health potion and my poisons and such |
| 22:27.01 | cladhaire | local p = "Hello" return p == "Hello" is true |
| 22:27.20 | alkis | no no... |
| 22:27.25 | alkis | the foo is in quotes |
| 22:27.26 | kergoth | lacindas: would probably want to scan the inventory on first load and determine which ones match xad modules and add those automatically |
| 22:27.39 | cladhaire | well, then no |
| 22:27.42 | cladhaire | since foo is a local value |
| 22:27.46 | cladhaire | if it was in a table somewhere, then yes |
| 22:27.53 | cladhaire | but there's no way to coerce a string into a LOCAL value. |
| 22:27.57 | alkis | so i want to take a string and get the value of the variable named that |
| 22:28.03 | alkis | how about a global variable? |
| 22:28.05 | cladhaire | then it has to be in a table, or global |
| 22:28.09 | cladhaire | getglobal("vriable") |
| 22:28.11 | Xuerian | If i clear a table (table = {}) and re-use it, instead of using a local table in a function that's called at a decent rate, will it still generate garbage in 5.0? |
| 22:28.13 | alkis | cool |
| 22:28.16 | alkis | thanks |
| 22:28.22 | alkis | that's what i wanted! |
| 22:28.40 | cladhaire | Xuerian: table = {} is the same as a local table |
| 22:28.58 | Arrowmaster | self.foo = "bar"; self["foo"] == "bar" <- true (right?) |
| 22:29.05 | cladhaire | Xuerian: You need to use compost, or manually clear the table |
| 22:29.11 | cladhaire | Arrowmaster: Yes |
| 22:29.36 | Arrowmaster | theres your eval =) |
| 22:29.38 | Xuerian | cladhaire: Is manually clearing the table a simple process (read: quick enough for a example here?), or should I just pop open compost? :P |
| 22:29.55 | Tem|AFK | Xuerian, cirly braces are a table constructor |
| 22:30.06 | cladhaire | for k,v in pairs(tbl) do tbl[k] = v end table.setn(tbl, 0) |
| 22:30.07 | cladhaire | should do it. |
| 22:30.20 | cladhaire | for most cases, but it depends on how you're using tables =) |
| 22:30.32 | JoshBork1 | er, tbl[k] = v? |
| 22:30.32 | Tem|AFK | for k,v in pairs(tbl) do tbl[k] = **nil** end table.setn(tbl, 0) |
| 22:30.36 | JoshBork1 | ;-) |
| 22:30.37 | cladhaire | err tbl[k] = nil |
| 22:30.39 | Xuerian | :P |
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| 22:31.08 | kergoth | cant get over the size difference between xad and autobar |
| 22:31.09 | cladhaire | you can look in CliqueUtils.lua, there's a simple Clique:ClearTbl() that returns an empty table if you don't pass it naything, otherwise it returns the table, cleared. |
| 22:31.10 | Xuerian | Well, I'm managing a stack of rows of frames, and trying to avoid garbage with it's Push and Pop functions :| |
| 22:31.17 | JoshBork1 | function clearTbl(tbl) if type(tbl) == 'table' then for k,v in pairs(tbl) do clearTbl(v) tbl[k] = nil end table.setn(tbl,0) end |
| 22:31.34 | cladhaire | JoshBork1: WHOA thats expensive. |
| 22:31.58 | cladhaire | if you're nesting tables, thats how it has to be.. but thats real bad for a basic cleartable function |
| 22:32.04 | Xuerian | And, thanks cladhaire, I'll take a look =P... Short of that I'll just use Compost. |
| 22:32.28 | JoshBork1 | cladhaire: i know :-( |
| 22:32.35 | cladhaire | JoshBork1: Then.. why? |
| 22:32.40 | cladhaire | would you post such... poopy |
| 22:32.42 | JoshBork1 | cladhaire: it's in case you have nested tables |
| 22:32.46 | cladhaire | *shudde* |
| 22:32.48 | vhaarr | cladhaire: did you see the screenshot? I didn't see any acknowledgement, sorry if said something already. |
| 22:32.49 | cladhaire | that's why libraries are bad. |
| 22:33.07 | cladhaire | Use what you NEED, not what's provided =( |
| 22:33.13 | cladhaire | especially for something so simple, its best to control it yourself. |
| 22:33.24 | JoshBork1 | cladhaire: i agree whole-heartedly :-) |
| 22:33.42 | cladhaire | vhaarr: Did you scale clique? |
| 22:33.46 | cladhaire | it may be an oskin issue, but i doubt it. |
| 22:33.50 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r12895 10FuBar_LootTypeFu/ (5 files): FuBar_LootTypeFu: Initial import of working FuBar2 loot type plugin. |
| 22:34.03 | vhaarr | cladhaire: I don't know how to scale it. |
| 22:34.09 | vhaarr | so .. probably not. |
| 22:34.13 | cladhaire | heh |
| 22:34.14 | cladhaire | k |
| 22:34.21 | vhaarr | cladhaire: This screenshot is from the first login on my lvl 12 mage. |
| 22:34.30 | vhaarr | cladhaire: I have never loaded Clique on that char before. |
| 22:35.14 | vhaarr | cladhaire: I have UI scale set to 0.64. |
| 22:35.17 | vhaarr | The lowest possible. |
| 22:35.25 | vhaarr | (with the ingame slider) |
| 22:35.30 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 22:35.32 | cladhaire | interesting |
| 22:35.39 | cladhaire | can you reproduce it? |
| 22:35.44 | vhaarr | yes |
| 22:35.49 | vhaarr | happens on all my chars, every time |
| 22:35.52 | vhaarr | the positioning |
| 22:36.06 | vhaarr | and icon size |
| 22:36.17 | vhaarr | I'll disable oSkin and see |
| 22:36.58 | vhaarr | cladhaire: right, looks fine now |
| 22:37.02 | vhaarr | so oSkin problem then |
| 22:37.45 | vhaarr | but the dewdrop and the set shown on frame shown issues are real :) |
| 22:38.31 | JoshBork1 | bye all |
| 22:38.35 | *** part/#wowace JoshBork1 (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 22:38.53 | cladhaire | bah |
| 22:38.53 | cladhaire | okay |
| 22:38.57 | cladhaire | vhaarr: enUS client? |
| 22:39.02 | vhaarr | yes |
| 22:39.19 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 22:39.20 | cladhaire | k |
| 22:39.54 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r12896 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: BigWigs: Kelthuzad: Stop pretending to localize things when you don't. Also fix multiple phase warnings. |
| 22:40.14 | Sole | lol vhaarr |
| 22:40.20 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 22:40.24 | neale | haha |
| 22:50.42 | vhaarr | I'm really starting to miss a wardrobe mod, too bad they all suck .. confirm/deny? |
| 22:51.03 | Sole | new name for Hostel2: Antagonist thesaurus.com ftw |
| 22:51.08 | eternally777 | vhaarr: that would be an affirmative. |
| 22:51.09 | vhaarr | Someone needs to Ace2 AceWardrobe and unsuck the name .. confirm/deny? |
| 22:51.09 | kergoth | i still like itemrack and outfitter both, but outfitter has bad lag spikes when you loot |
| 22:51.12 | Sole | vhaarr: I still use ItemRack, I cry but I still use it |
| 22:51.16 | kergoth | me too |
| 22:51.21 | BoltR | I agree vhaarr |
| 22:51.39 | vhaarr | good, maybe we can cook something up then |
| 22:51.45 | Sole | vhaarr: new name can be Sparkly |
| 22:51.53 | Xuerian | Top itemrack, and I'd use it XD |
| 22:51.54 | Sole | Im good at names... >_< |
| 22:52.12 | Sole | top ItemRack and use less mem |
| 22:52.15 | vhaarr | KingsNewClothing ? |
| 22:52.28 | Sole | and dont do shit when youre not changing outfits |
| 22:52.43 | Tekkub | you know what we need, that would kill prolly 2/3 the need for ItemRack? |
| 22:52.48 | Tekkub | ResistanceIsFutile |
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| 22:53.12 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 22:53.13 | Tem|AFK | not all of us are fucking hunters tek |
| 22:53.17 | Tekkub | warns you when you need resist gear, and will auto-equip all items of a certain resist in your bags, and un-equip back when you're done |
| 22:53.24 | Tem|AFK | we can't pick and choose when to be in combat |
| 22:53.24 | vhaarr | People want more customization than just auto-equip resist gear. |
| 22:53.38 | Tem|AFK | damn hunters getting out of repairs... |
| 22:53.39 | Xuerian | That lacks the other 2/3 (cough), the trinketmenu-style menu =P |
| 22:53.40 | Tem|AFK | bullshit |
| 22:53.46 | Tem|AFK | complete bullshit |
| 22:54.04 | Tekkub | hey Tem... remember what we talked about the other day? |
| 22:54.07 | Tekkub | you just did it :) |
| 22:54.11 | Tem|AFK | ignore me |
| 22:54.16 | Tekkub | hehe |
| 22:54.26 | Tem|AFK | I'm bitter about hunters getting out of repairs |
| 22:54.40 | Tem|AFK | and, no Tek, I didn't |
| 22:54.45 | Tem|AFK | that was an unrelated rant |
| 22:54.50 | BoltR | I just want an ace2'd wardrobe |
| 22:54.51 | Tem|AFK | anyway, I'm gone now |
| 22:54.53 | vhaarr | but some wardrobe mod could come prepacked with resistance sets that got autoequipped when some bossmods enabled from BW. |
| 22:54.55 | Tekkub | don't be bitter at me, my ohshit macro fails to unequip about 3/4 of the time, and I always die when I feign |
| 22:55.00 | BoltR | I don't need all that extra stuff itemrack has |
| 22:55.07 | Tekkub | vhaar, don't need sets |
| 22:55.12 | vhaarr | no? |
| 22:55.14 | BoltR | I think AceWardrobe is the only Ace1 mod I have left |
| 22:55.23 | kergoth | i need item sets bad, i think i hit 12 sets in my itemrack the other day |
| 22:55.25 | Tekkub | can scan tooltips and remember resist gears |
| 22:55.37 | vhaarr | autosets |
| 22:55.39 | Tekkub | and catch the resist enchants for the item links |
| 22:55.41 | vhaarr | = scan |
| 22:56.00 | Tekkub | :P |
| 22:56.10 | BoltR | Tekkub, that wouldn't work |
| 22:56.16 | vhaarr | KingsNewClothes or ClosetDresser ? |
| 22:56.17 | BoltR | Auto equiping resist gear |
| 22:56.24 | Industrial | What was the addon that remembers AH sale prizes for you again? |
| 22:56.24 | vhaarr | of course it would |
| 22:56.27 | nevcairiel | Hm Squishy gives me a error with the the chatframes, and searching on the forums revealed that it somehow is AceComm's fault |
| 22:56.29 | BoltR | As tier2 has resist |
| 22:56.32 | BoltR | on it |
| 22:56.32 | Tekkub | yes it would *points at MountMe* |
| 22:56.33 | nevcairiel | any one know something about that? |
| 22:56.40 | Industrial | anyone? |
| 22:56.48 | BoltR | Plus, that isn't why I use ItemRack |
| 22:56.49 | Tekkub | the concept is this: |
| 22:56.56 | BoltR | well AceWardrobe |
| 22:57.02 | Tekkub | * Tell the user they're taking eelemental damage and have resist gear available |
| 22:57.07 | Industrial | What was the addon that remembers AH sale prizes for you again? |
| 22:57.12 | Tekkub | * User clicks, gear is equipped |
| 22:57.17 | BoltR | That is even worse for a tank |
| 22:57.21 | vhaarr | Industrial: Auctioneer? |
| 22:57.27 | yacoob | Industrial, auctioneer or kc_items |
| 22:57.28 | BoltR | As you take elemental damage all the time :/ |
| 22:57.29 | Tekkub | then the tank can not use the mod |
| 22:57.32 | Tekkub | fuck the tank |
| 22:57.32 | vhaarr | fuck that combat log parsing |
| 22:57.43 | vhaarr | I'll just do it on bigwigs bossmod enable |
| 22:57.50 | vhaarr | and map bossnames -> res |
| 22:57.52 | Arrowmaster | i would perfer setting my own resist sets rather than having a mod telling me what gear i should wear, especially when id much rather wear some resist gear while still keeping most my stats than wearing all resist gear and having no stats |
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| 22:58.05 | Tekkub | vhaarr, I have no clue when I'm supposed to wear my FR, and it's not always on bosses |
| 22:58.14 | Industrial | I mean items you put up for auction |
| 22:58.19 | Noto|Anenga | hi, when I install PerfectTargets and type /ptarg nothing happens, any ideas? |
| 22:58.23 | Industrial | so you wot have to fill the damn form every time |
| 22:58.27 | vhaarr | Tekkub: with bw boss mapping you don't need a clue |
| 22:58.30 | Industrial | just drag items in and it fills it |
| 22:58.32 | Tekkub | install SupplyAndDemand |
| 22:58.39 | vhaarr | you just need the gear in your backpack |
| 22:59.04 | Tekkub | vhaarr... but my FR in MC is only like half bosses |
| 22:59.12 | Tekkub | they always want me wearing it on not bosses |
| 22:59.17 | BoltR | There is only three fights I use resist gear on (Three I think?) |
| 22:59.40 | BoltR | Rag because I tank, Huhu though I don't wear full resist, and firemaw |
| 22:59.43 | Arrowmaster | same... rag, vael, firemaw |
| 22:59.54 | BoltR | I guess I wear some on vael too |
| 22:59.55 | vhaarr | Tekkub: so equip your MC gear when you enter MC with zonemappings? |
| 22:59.56 | Tekkub | I like this idea tho... BigWigs_Resistance |
| 22:59.59 | vhaarr | autosets by zone |
| 23:00.00 | BoltR | But I haven't been to BWL in longer than I can remember |
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| 23:00.12 | vhaarr | BW_Resistance? |
| 23:00.18 | Tekkub | it could auto-detect items of the restist defined for each boss |
| 23:00.25 | Tekkub | the user could override which items to use |
| 23:00.28 | vhaarr | yes that's what I mean |
| 23:00.30 | vhaarr | .. |
| 23:00.31 | Arrowmaster | but i never wear all my resist gear anymore, id much rather take a little more damage and do a lot more damage now that those fights are on farm |
| 23:00.56 | Tekkub | and no vhaarr, I don't wear my FR resist gear thru all of MC |
| 23:01.05 | vhaarr | then why did you complain? |
| 23:01.05 | Tekkub | just certain spots, and not all are boss fights |
| 23:01.30 | Arrowmaster | the only non boss part of mc you would even consider wearing FR gear for is the lava packs |
| 23:01.44 | Tekkub | yea those |
| 23:01.48 | vhaarr | autoequipping item sets *when* you take elemental damage makes no sense and is, in fact, impossible |
| 23:01.49 | Tekkub | whatever they are |
| 23:01.50 | Tekkub | :) |
| 23:01.56 | vhaarr | since you can't change gear in combat |
| 23:02.02 | Tekkub | I NEVER SAID AUTOEQUIP ON AN EVENT! |
| 23:02.07 | vhaarr | yes you did |
| 23:02.21 | Tekkub | I said 1) tell the use and 2) user click autoequips any resistance gear found |
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| 23:02.33 | Kaelten | can we programatically equip items? |
| 23:02.36 | vhaarr | right, autosets would do that |
| 23:02.40 | vhaarr | yes kael |
| 23:02.40 | BoltR | Yeah Arrowmaster I don't either |
| 23:02.46 | Kaelten | vhaarr: does it require a keypress? |
| 23:02.46 | Tekkub | yes kael |
| 23:02.50 | vhaarr | Kaelten: yes |
| 23:03.00 | Tekkub | kael, fix the fucking forum sidebar links, even clad couldn't decipher em |
| 23:03.06 | Kaelten | lol |
| 23:03.10 | Sole | lol |
| 23:03.10 | Kaelten | at least I'm usefull for something |
| 23:03.11 | BoltR | Tekkub, if you are doing that you may as well just have sets |
| 23:03.13 | Tekkub | and people are bitching because most of them don't work |
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| 23:03.27 | BoltR | That way you are in the hands of a mod guessing which gear to equip |
| 23:03.40 | BoltR | You are still clicking a button |
| 23:03.44 | Tekkub | *sigh* |
| 23:03.53 | Tekkub | noone listens to me do they? |
| 23:03.58 | BoltR | I listened |
| 23:04.04 | Tekkub | <Tekkub> it could auto-detect items of the restist defined for each boss |
| 23:04.04 | Tekkub | <Tekkub> the user could override which items to use |
| 23:04.15 | BoltR | I just don't see the advantage of scanning tooltips every time, over just setting up sets |
| 23:04.23 | Tekkub | I never said every time! |
| 23:04.26 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12897 10Chronometer/readme.txt: Chronometer: put my TODO list in the readme |
| 23:04.40 | Tekkub | you keep assuming shit here |
| 23:04.51 | BoltR | Ok, so it's sets with one button does all? |
| 23:05.01 | BoltR | Basicly |
| 23:05.05 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r12898 10Clique/Plugins/ (Clique_OzRaid.lua Plugins.xml): Clique: Added a plugin for OzRaid |
| 23:05.52 | vhaarr | what's needed is a itemrack/acewardrobe replacement that comes preloaded with some magic sets that autofill with your resistance gear, and options to autoswitch to sets for bosses. |
| 23:06.20 | BoltR | I use wardrobe to switch from tank to dps gear mostly |
| 23:06.34 | vhaarr | "ClosetGnome - We're all Gnomes at heart." title + slogan |
| 23:06.41 | vhaarr | okay I'll start tomorrow |
| 23:06.44 | vhaarr | now zzZz |
| 23:07.25 | BoltR | We also need a mod which combines IDCard and ManyItemTooltops |
| 23:07.27 | BoltR | tips* |
| 23:08.35 | cladhaire | vhaarr: I cannot reproduce the dropdown issue |
| 23:08.42 | vhaarr | cladhaire: I can :/ |
| 23:08.51 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel * r12899 10HotCandy/ (Core.lua Hooks.lua textures/ textures/default.tga): |
| 23:08.51 | CIA-11 | HotCandy: |
| 23:08.51 | CIA-11 | - added the CandyBar to the addon to avoid disappearing of the texture |
| 23:08.52 | CIA-11 | - cleanup |
| 23:08.56 | vhaarr | I'll log in again right now and try. |
| 23:09.08 | cladhaire | vhaarr: YOu have to give me step by step instructions |
| 23:09.09 | Noto|Anenga | anyone use perfect targets? |
| 23:09.12 | cladhaire | i can reproduce the dewdrop error |
| 23:09.18 | vhaarr | cladhaire: I will |
| 23:09.42 | vhaarr | ah, that dropdown |
| 23:09.43 | vhaarr | okay I'll try |
| 23:10.30 | vhaarr | right, there it is |
| 23:10.30 | cladhaire | what did you do? |
| 23:11.17 | vhaarr | cladhaire: Log in with a player that for the first time, open spellbook, open clique, add new action: "Custom", "Clique:CastSpell("spell")", click Save, switch to Default hostile, close everything and reopen spellbook. |
| 23:11.32 | vhaarr | cladhaire: and there it is, "Default hostile" showing but the Default friendly action is listed. |
| 23:11.37 | cladhaire | whod did you "close everything" |
| 23:11.41 | cladhaire | how rather |
| 23:11.52 | vhaarr | Esc |
| 23:13.00 | cladhaire | ok |
| 23:13.49 | cladhaire | its the hitting escape. |
| 23:13.59 | cladhaire | i'll have to play to fix it.. hrm. |
| 23:14.02 | vhaarr | cladhaire: And a small feature request before I go to sleep; confirm deleting actions. |
| 23:14.24 | cladhaire | meh |
| 23:14.28 | cladhaire | that'd be annoying imo =( |
| 23:14.47 | vhaarr | well I just coded buff action at 20 lines |
| 23:14.57 | vhaarr | redoing it because I accidentally clicked Delete is more annoying |
| 23:15.27 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/12819 |
| 23:15.29 | Tekkub | *giggle* |
| 23:15.40 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 23:15.49 | Kaelten | Tekkub: fixed |
| 23:15.57 | Tekkub | kael, thank you |
| 23:16.03 | Tekkub | freebie next week |
| 23:18.39 | BoltR | Maybe i'll read the API and look into the multiple tooltip and icon addon |
| 23:18.56 | BoltR | AceOO is perfect for it I think ;p |
| 23:21.37 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r12900 10Squishy/ (core.lua frames.lua): Squishy: continuing rewriting frame code to work towards eeMon |
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| 23:26.57 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r12901 10Clique/CliqueOptions.lua: Clique: Fixed an issue where the click set dropdown wouldn't revert properly if the window was force exited |
| 23:27.10 | Tekkub | kael... you did watch that page so you know if the sidebar needs an update right? |
| 23:27.10 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar |
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| 23:31.46 | Galka | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Supply_and_Demand |
| 23:31.52 | Galka | Staggering. Can not wait until its ready. |
| 23:32.00 | Xuerian | It is ready. o_0 |
| 23:32.18 | Galka | So itll load addons I choose if im flagged, and such already? |
| 23:32.18 | Xuerian | more or less :P |
| 23:32.30 | kergoth | 1S&D kicks ass |
| 23:32.32 | kergoth | s/1// |
| 23:32.35 | Xuerian | You might have to up and add the conditions yourself =P |
| 23:32.39 | kergoth | it doesnt have the pvp one yet, adding that condition is easy |
| 23:32.40 | Galka | gwah |
| 23:32.43 | Xuerian | But once you do, it will =) |
| 23:32.45 | kergoth | i added loading on opening the mailbox last night |
| 23:32.59 | Galka | At which point you loaded your mailmod? |
| 23:33.10 | kergoth | aye, gmail loads then now |
| 23:33.12 | Galka | it* |
| 23:33.17 | Galka | awesome... |
| 23:33.27 | Galka | downloading to play |
| 23:33.59 | eternally777 | When I'm trying to match a pattern, how do I know when to use ".-" vs ".*"? I've read the lua manual on it but it's kinda still not clear to me |
| 23:35.37 | Noto|Anenga | any plans to update perfecttarget? like update the look of the frames? |
| 23:35.51 | Tekkub | no |
| 23:36.10 | Noto|Anenga | :( |
| 23:36.29 | eternally777 | Tekkub: |
| 23:36.38 | Tekkub | I've got too much shit to do as is, changing looks is not even a remote priority |
| 23:36.49 | eternally777 | You can be my hero, baby ;D |
| 23:36.57 | Noto|Anenga | i'd like to dump CTRaid but I sitll use it for it's MTT bars |
| 23:37.21 | Galka | ...Forgive me, but thats a silly reason to use something so massive. |
| 23:37.34 | cladhaire | use ora's maintank frames |
| 23:37.36 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 23:37.44 | Tekkub | fuck the tank |
| 23:37.46 | Tekkub | :P |
| 23:37.59 | Tekkub | tankframes are overrated |
| 23:38.07 | Noto|Anenga | ORA's are too wide, I use a smaller res |
| 23:38.23 | cladhaire | so scale them |
| 23:38.25 | cladhaire | or change the view. |
| 23:38.27 | eternally777 | cladhaire: Someone mentioned that you used to have code that could accurately figure out the overheal from an HoT? |
| 23:38.28 | cladhaire | cause there are a number of views. |
| 23:38.33 | cladhaire | eternally777: yes |
| 23:38.51 | cladhaire | eternally777: its... not pretty, especially with the new autocast functionality, but it shoudl still work |
| 23:38.57 | eternally777 | cladhaire: When's the last time I told you that I loved you? |
| 23:39.29 | eternally777 | Would you be willing to let me see it? |
| 23:39.30 | cladhaire | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Detect_Instant_Cast_Spells |
| 23:39.35 | cladhaire | i wiki my shit =) |
| 23:39.44 | cladhaire | but you can get the code from bishop too, in theory |
| 23:39.47 | eternally777 | sweet az mate |
| 23:40.09 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r12902 10FuBar_CorkFu/ADCommission.lua: FuBar_CorkFu - ADCommission module should now properly toggle off |
| 23:40.14 | cladhaire | eternally777: https://opensvn.csie.org/Ace/trunk/Bishop/ |
| 23:40.16 | cladhaire | That has most of it. |
| 23:40.18 | cladhaire | kinda |
| 23:40.18 | cladhaire | maybe |
| 23:40.20 | cladhaire | lol |
| 23:40.49 | Tekkub | oh man, I totally forgot about Bishop |
| 23:41.11 | eternally777 | Awesome, ty |
| 23:41.41 | cladhaire | whats it for eternally777 ? |
| 23:41.50 | eternally777 | EPGauge |
| 23:41.57 | kergoth | bishop? |
| 23:42.08 | cladhaire | bishop was just one of those mods that i wrote to prove it could be written, then refused to write and release =) |
| 23:42.12 | eternally777 | One of my goals was to eliminate the padding healers can do by casting low rank renews before every boss fight |
| 23:42.12 | kergoth | ah |
| 23:42.16 | Tekkub | Bishop was clad's overheal monitor thing |
| 23:42.23 | cladhaire | heh and it worked. |
| 23:42.26 | eternally777 | SWStats always counts an HoT towards "effective" healing |
| 23:42.39 | cladhaire | but the public wasn't ready for the info it gave =) |
| 23:42.52 | cladhaire | eternally777: But doesn't count against the caster when they cast it at full health |
| 23:42.55 | cladhaire | which is the issue |
| 23:43.02 | cladhaire | eternally777: The moral of the story is, you can only detect it FROM THE CASTER |
| 23:43.44 | sbu | *sigh* |
| 23:43.52 | sbu | WiM is evil |
| 23:44.10 | Arrowmaster | afaik hots cant overheal |
| 23:44.39 | Galka | They dont tick if the target is at full HP |
| 23:44.54 | kergoth | sbu: ? |
| 23:45.26 | Tekkub | define overheal |
| 23:45.38 | Tekkub | wasted mana on healing not done, they can |
| 23:45.50 | cladhaire | Arrowmaster: They cannot overheadl.. they can underheal. |
| 23:46.00 | sbu | kergoth: dont know - just causes some _strange_ wow addon errors (messes w/ blizzard stuff) |
| 23:46.05 | cladhaire | Arrowmaster: A HoT that only ticks once is only 20% effective. |
| 23:46.10 | kergoth | weird |
| 23:46.16 | sbu | e.g. drag groups out of blizzard raidtab causes some errors |
| 23:46.33 | Tekkub | yea effective is a better word |
| 23:46.45 | cladhaire | Arrowmaster: And they are impossible to detect unless you are on the casters client.. in which case you have to take the hit at initial cast.. i.e. when you cast a renew, you are credited with 900 overheal, and then you recover it. |
| 23:46.49 | Tekkub | HoTs won't try to heal HP that's not missing, but the mana is still wasted |
| 23:46.53 | cladhaire | Overheal is a bad word.. mana efficiency is the right word. |
| 23:47.00 | Arrowmaster | ah ok |
| 23:47.06 | Arrowmaster | now i get it |
| 23:48.57 | kergoth | someone should do an updated version of zookeeper, which hooks the mousewheel and stuff |
| 23:48.59 | Arrowmaster | how does it handle stuff like the druid t2 set bonus? |
| 23:49.13 | cladhaire | Arrowmaster: It wouldn't. |
| 23:49.17 | cladhaire | but that's not wasted mana |
| 23:49.57 | cladhaire | but i'm not fully familiar with druid bonuses.. i'm only 2/8 tier 1 on my druid. |
| 23:49.59 | cladhaire | priests are my gig =) |
| 23:50.33 | Arrowmaster | it makes rejuv tick an extra time with 8/8 |
| 23:50.49 | Tain | oh goddamnit a friend of mine got me playing M:TG Online |
| 23:51.01 | cladhaire | Tain: sell me your cards, pleas. |
| 23:51.23 | Kaelten | Tain: wow |
| 23:51.25 | Thrae | Druid healing is all about the HoTs. |
| 23:51.25 | Tain | I just looked at them again because I moved again. |
| 23:51.31 | cladhaire | Arrowmaster: Then that would work perfectly.. since that would be a bonus.. not a detriment. i.e. someone with it would have a better %, etc. |
| 23:51.36 | Plorkyeran | I was incredibly happy that I didn't like playing on MODO |
| 23:51.36 | Tekkub | Thrae! |
| 23:51.38 | cladhaire | Tain: Keep me in mind =) |
| 23:51.40 | cladhaire | please |
| 23:51.47 | Tekkub | *pokes SVNbot with the wikistick* |
| 23:51.58 | Kaelten | I have about 10-20k CCG cards |
| 23:51.59 | Kaelten | maybe more |
| 23:52.12 | cladhaire | Kaelten: mtg4mepls. |
| 23:52.14 | Tain | I've got a lot. |
| 23:52.21 | Kaelten | mtg4mepls? |
| 23:52.26 | Kaelten | oh I got it |
| 23:52.27 | cladhaire | i have a bunch, but only good ones |
| 23:52.31 | Tain | But I also traded away a lot, I focused on White, then Green and Blue. |
| 23:52.40 | Kaelten | um, probably around 10k cards from that or so |
| 23:52.49 | eternally777 | Fix MyDebug :( |
| 23:52.52 | cladhaire | i sold the common crfap that i won't play |
| 23:52.54 | Tain | At one point I gave away every red card I had to my girlfriend at the time who had her cards stolen. |
| 23:52.56 | Kaelten | I started in revised a long time ago, and still got some stuff |
| 23:53.08 | Kaelten | havn't played in a long time though |
| 23:53.09 | Tain | Me too Kael. I started playing when Legends came out. |
| 23:53.44 | Tain | I have right now four of every White card from Unlimited through Fallen Empires, and a bunch of Ice Age. But I had pretty much stopped playing by then. |
| 23:53.59 | Kaelten | lol |
| 23:54.00 | Kaelten | nice |
| 23:54.01 | Tain | Well almost, I think I only have 3 Thunder Spirits and that always pissed me off. |
| 23:54.11 | Kaelten | I knew a guy who around the time of 5th had 4 of ever blue card ever made |
| 23:54.18 | Kaelten | lol |
| 23:54.22 | Tain | But I do have Black Lotus, Mox Pearl, Mox Emerald and Mox Sapphire. |
| 23:54.32 | cladhaire | mmm.. sapphire.. |
| 23:54.33 | Kaelten | nice |
| 23:54.40 | Kaelten | I never was able to get any of those packs |
| 23:54.45 | Kaelten | always made me sad |
| 23:55.05 | Tain | I never opened an Unlimted pack, but I did open one each of Antiquities and Arabians |
| 23:55.11 | Thrae | Everyone I played with didn't compensate for people with super-expensive decks, and I was poor, so I never got into MTG during my youth. |
| 23:55.34 | Tain | I actually paid $35 for an unopened Arabians booster. haha just because I wanted to have opened one. |
| 23:55.49 | CIA-11 | 03thiana 07Thiana * r12903 10Sheppard/Core.lua: Sheppard: Logic fix |
| 23:56.07 | Tain | I didn't only play the rare cards Thrae, I loved making decks of different things. It was fun. But people did make it crazy serious. |
| 23:56.21 | Kebinusan | green red speed creature deck 4tw |
| 23:56.28 | Kebinusan | kird apes giant growth |
| 23:56.55 | Tain | Whenever someone would complain about someone having too good cards my brother would break out his green all common deck. |
| 23:56.59 | Tain | And would usually win. |
| 23:57.31 | kergoth | this rap song just siad "i taut i taw a putty tat.. i did, i did!" from sylvester & tweety cartoons |
| 23:57.33 | Thrae | Tekkub: It seems the wiki was re-structed |
| 23:57.37 | kergoth | i dont know why, but i never noticed it before |
| 23:57.42 | Thrae | restructured even |
| 23:57.46 | Tekkub | thrae, yea urls changed |
| 23:57.49 | Tain | He was a bastard with green decks normally though. I had nightmares about hearing, "Giant Growth, Giant Growth, Berserk" |
| 23:57.56 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/<pagename> |
| 23:58.11 | Tekkub | hence why SVNbot needs updated :) |
| 23:58.15 | Kaelten | tain I had a dec that would do that kinda stuff |
| 23:58.21 | Kaelten | but I normally followed it with fork |
| 23:58.26 | cladhaire | i was green/white mostly |
| 23:58.28 | Kaelten | it was a green blue red speed deck |
| 23:58.30 | cladhaire | with blue control when i was bored. |
| 23:58.35 | cladhaire | Kaelten: I hated people like you |
| 23:58.39 | cladhaire | tho i do the same, with unstable mutation =) |
| 23:58.46 | Kaelten | I had those too |
| 23:58.57 | Kaelten | a 30/30 scrib sprite witht rable is scary |
| 23:59.04 | Kebinusan | heh |
| 23:59.15 | Kaelten | with trample |
| 23:59.16 | Kaelten | rather |
| 23:59.26 | Kaelten | had 4 flying men and 4 kird apes in there too |
| 23:59.33 | Kebinusan | or a blue black denial deck with demonic hordes and unsummon or whatever it was |
| 23:59.48 | Kaelten | I had a fun blue red burn deck |
| 23:59.52 | Tain | My favorite games ever though were when we'd get five people and everyone would play one color. |
