| 00:00.00 | Tain | Goddamn those were the best. |
| 00:00.11 | Kaelten | Tain: I used to play emporer games, those where pretty good |
| 00:00.25 | Tain | Everyone played their dirty vs color cards and EVERYONE hated Blue. |
| 00:00.56 | Kebinusan | swords to plowshares and my serra angel |
| 00:02.16 | Kebinusan | I liked the cards though for the artwork and nifty quotes |
| 00:03.20 | Tain | Yeah some of the quotes were so great. |
| 00:04.25 | Galka | Could someone recommend a nice, simply text editor? Name will suffice and ill google it. |
| 00:04.31 | Galka | simple* |
| 00:04.54 | Thrae | Galka: Notepad for text, GVim for Coding |
| 00:05.01 | Tain | SciTE |
| 00:05.01 | Galka | GVim, ok. |
| 00:05.03 | Galka | Thank you |
| 00:05.35 | kergoth | gvim isnt for the feint of heart, i'd recommend starting with something easier |
| 00:05.47 | Galka | Ok, ill try SciTE then |
| 00:05.48 | Galka | Thank you |
| 00:05.51 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:07.11 | cladhaire | there's a wow specific scite. |
| 00:07.13 | cladhaire | on wowinterface |
| 00:07.19 | Cairenn | Galka: if you want one that is rather ... hehehe, hi Clad |
| 00:07.20 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4989-SciTE-WOWInterface.html |
| 00:07.25 | Cairenn | was just linking it ;) |
| 00:07.37 | cladhaire | hhe |
| 00:07.54 | Galka | ooh nice, thanks guys |
| 00:09.08 | BoltR | gvim is also probably overkill |
| 00:09.45 | kergoth | depends on the user :) |
| 00:10.10 | kergoth | Tekkub: mind if i check in X-S&D-PVP? |
| 00:10.22 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r12904 10Squishy/ (core.lua frames.lua): Squishy: updated unit frame creation and update code |
| 00:10.23 | Tekkub | you write it already? by all means |
| 00:12.13 | Thrae | Tekkub: Weren't you talking about making all BW Modules LoD? |
| 00:12.29 | Tekkub | Thrae, ammo's working on it ) |
| 00:12.31 | Tekkub | :) |
| 00:12.37 | Tekkub | s&dD will be used if present |
| 00:12.45 | Tekkub | else BW "core" will be a stub |
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| 00:13.07 | cladhaire | *vomit* |
| 00:13.08 | Thrae | Tekkub: So will we have 50 different BW* folders? |
| 00:14.21 | Tekkub | no |
| 00:14.27 | Tekkub | each zone is a module |
| 00:14.36 | Tekkub | and the core modules is a modules |
| 00:14.40 | Tekkub | yea... |
| 00:14.45 | Tekkub | plugin, whatever |
| 00:14.53 | Thrae | Since as far as I know, for true LoadOnDemand, you need to have a seperate TOC for each, which means a seperate addon folder to house it. |
| 00:14.58 | Tekkub | each set of zone modules is a plugin |
| 00:15.11 | cladhaire | blegh |
| 00:15.12 | Thrae | Yeah but you can only have one TOC per addon directory, rigt? |
| 00:15.14 | Tekkub | and the core modules will be a plugin as well |
| 00:15.19 | Tekkub | yes thrae |
| 00:15.20 | cladhaire | if they're minimal, use the clique method imo |
| 00:15.28 | Tekkub | but it doesn't need to be loaded per-boss |
| 00:15.33 | Tekkub | per-zone is fine |
| 00:15.50 | Tekkub | load per-zone, activate per-boss |
| 00:19.03 | Tekkub | music induced adrenaline rushes FTFW! |
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| 00:19.48 | Thrae | Ugh, I'm going to need to find Mikk to help me with SVNBot's script |
| 00:19.49 | ckknight | hey all |
| 00:20.04 | Xuerian | Heya ckknight. |
| 00:20.16 | Tekkub | Mikk, ping pong big black dong |
| 00:20.32 | ckknight | ~inflatable dildos |
| 00:20.41 | purl | Oh yea, stretch that hole! |
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| 00:21.30 | eternally777 | Hmm, I'm trying to dynamically create an AceOptions table for a FuBar menu, but it doesn't seem to want to work. |
| 00:21.53 | Tekkub | AceOptions tables aren't much fun to dynamically create |
| 00:22.00 | eternally777 | I think my variables are getting lost along the way |
| 00:22.04 | Mikk | I'm here |
| 00:22.09 | eternally777 | But it should work, there's no reason it couldn't, right? |
| 00:22.20 | Tekkub | in theory |
| 00:22.31 | Tekkub | Mikk, the wiki URL changed, Thare needs help |
| 00:22.38 | Tekkub | Thrae* |
| 00:22.59 | Mikk | hehe |
| 00:23.05 | Mikk | mkay |
| 00:23.25 | Thrae | Mikk: With curl, does --form use name or id? |
| 00:23.36 | Thiana | Is OnEnable() called when a Ace2 LoD addon is loaded? |
| 00:23.37 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r12905 10RaidTools/RaidTools.lua: RaidTools: changed MT creation to an extra drop down option in the default Raid panel, no more raidframe hooking, be careful, this might break stuff and is under testing :) |
| 00:23.42 | Arrowmaster | ok so if the bw modules are going to be lod and loaded when you enter the zone... does that mean you cant change settings for any of the modules unless you enter that zone? |
| 00:23.42 | Mikk | Thrae: name |
| 00:24.28 | ckknight | Thiana, yes. |
| 00:24.35 | Thiana | ckknight: Thanks. |
| 00:24.41 | ckknight | for LoD and after PLAYER_LOGIN, it'll be called right after OnInitialize |
| 00:24.48 | Tekkub | or forcibly load them |
| 00:24.56 | Tekkub | which can be done with the S&D tablet |
| 00:25.04 | Cairenn | ckknight: easier way to list them |
| 00:25.08 | Cairenn | ckknight: http://www.wowinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=26682 :p |
| 00:25.17 | CIA-11 | 03kergoth * r12906 10oSkin/ (AOElements.lua AddonFrames.lua): oSkin: Skin PVPCooldown's frame for people using that addon. |
| 00:27.28 | CIA-11 | 03kergoth * r12907 10SupplyAndDemand/Modules.lua: SupplyAndDemand: Add X-S&D-PVP. |
| 00:27.52 | Mikk | Thrae: What's changed that's needing "--form" fiddlery? o.O |
| 00:29.20 | eternally777 | Could someone help me out with this script: http://ace.pastey.net/1312 ? |
| 00:29.25 | ckknight | !url FuBar_HonorFu |
| 00:29.25 | SVNBot | Main: http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=FuBar_HonorFu/ |
| 00:29.25 | SVNBot | Alt: http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/FuBar_HonorFu/ |
| 00:29.25 | SVNBot | Info: http://www.wowace.com/index.php/TOC_Data/FuBar_HonorFu |
| 00:29.39 | eternally777 | That's what I'm using to create the Dewdrop AceOptions table dynamically |
| 00:30.06 | CIA-11 | 03skyboat * r12908 10BuffMe/BuffMe.toc: BuffMe!: Updated .toc |
| 00:30.14 | eternally777 | But between the time that the table is created, and when the button is clicked, WoW forgets the values of my variables |
| 00:31.25 | ckknight | I know why, eternally777 |
| 00:31.33 | ckknight | but if I tell you, you owe me a tithing |
| 00:31.46 | eternally777 | Put it on my tab. |
| 00:31.50 | eternally777 | As a "bill" |
| 00:31.51 | ckknight | will do |
| 00:31.57 | eternally777 | _not_ a "tithing" |
| 00:32.02 | ckknight | on line 9, put local v = v |
| 00:32.10 | ckknight | because the value of v changes on the iteration |
| 00:32.24 | ckknight | therefore the inner function references a local variable that dies |
| 00:32.35 | ckknight | and is nil by the end of the iteration |
| 00:32.49 | eternally777 | Before or after the table is opened? Before, right? |
| 00:32.50 | kergoth | note that that changes in 5.0 vs 5.1, in 5.1 its bound only for that pass of the iteration, not the whole thing |
| 00:32.58 | kergoth | but portable code will manually bind it local |
| 00:33.00 | ckknight | eternally777, before |
| 00:33.22 | ckknight | fun, kergoth |
| 00:35.45 | Thrae | It's an interesting day today...today I learned AL made an Ace2 addon. |
| 00:35.47 | eternally777 | Thanks Ckk |
| 00:35.55 | Tekkub | DEATH!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:36.00 | Tekkub | DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:36.10 | Tekkub | WE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEE!!! |
| 00:36.10 | kergoth | Thrae: really? |
| 00:36.13 | Tekkub | really? |
| 00:36.23 | eternally777 | Now how do I make a dewdrop menu go away OnClick? |
| 00:36.24 | kergoth | say what you will about AL, his extrachannels addon is pretty damn cool |
| 00:36.29 | eternally777 | instead of just staying there |
| 00:36.36 | kergoth | and the classchannels addon that it inspired |
| 00:36.53 | ckknight | Thrae, really? |
| 00:37.07 | ckknight | kergoth, yea, the extrachannels thing is pretty cool. |
| 00:37.48 | Thrae | ckknight: AL made a FuBar plugin for "Wardrobe-AL", and since FuBar is an Ace2 addon, its plugins are technically Ace2 addons... |
| 00:37.57 | Tekkub | extrachannels is a very neat idea |
| 00:38.15 | ckknight | ah |
| 00:38.37 | Tekkub | added LoD warning to the addon infobox... see: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBar_TransporterFu |
| 00:38.44 | Tekkub | will fill in the red links shortly |
| 00:39.11 | Thrae | I wonder if this means Cosmos will be including FuBar ;) |
| 00:39.24 | ckknight | lol. |
| 00:39.26 | Sole | lol |
| 00:39.36 | ckknight | I wouldn't be against it, honestly. |
| 00:40.31 | Thiana | Wiki go boom? |
| 00:40.47 | Thiana | nm, just really really slow. |
| 00:41.40 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r12909 10EgoCast/ (EgoCast.toc libs/): EgoCast -- Oh this was sitting around because I added AceEvent-2.0 like AceAddon-2.0 needed. |
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| 00:47.20 | Weslocke | Ok, what happened to !!!Libraries? Switching over to !!!Libs? |
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| 00:49.08 | Thrae | I'm looking at Clique and I don't see any special way to stop it from loading the various modules into memory, activated or deactivated. |
| 00:50.56 | Tekkub | why do you need to thrae? |
| 00:51.10 | Tekkub | they're tiny, mostly just hooks into the respective addons |
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| 00:51.38 | Tekkub | and only appear to enable if the addon is present, for obvious reasons |
| 00:52.12 | Thrae | Well, say you have a bunch of strings in a module, seems like pure LoD would be the better way to go |
| 00:52.28 | Arrowmaster | hmm think i found a problem with Chronometer and Shadow Vulneribilty... it kept showing the imp shadowbolt timer when our shadow priest was putting shadow vulnribilty up |
| 00:52.51 | Tekkub | if... but does it? |
| 00:53.18 | Tekkub | here's a concept, just delete all the plugins you don't want |
| 00:53.27 | Tekkub | problem solved |
| 00:53.40 | Tekkub | I think you're over optomizing :P |
| 00:53.54 | Thrae | Tekkub: I wasn't bitching about Clique, I was thinking about the most user-friendly module system ;) |
| 00:54.09 | Thrae | For larger modules, like a GUI Options or GUIs in general |
| 00:54.21 | Tekkub | users will always complain, any effort you put forth is futile |
| 00:54.31 | kergoth | Tekkub: should we rename X-S&D-Mail to X-S&D-AtMail, and X-S&D-PVP to X-S&D-IsPVP or something, to be clear about when? |
| 00:54.34 | Tekkub | so code for yourself, not them |
| 00:54.35 | kergoth | s/we/i/ :P |
| 00:54.48 | Thrae | Just screw 'em in the backside you say, eh? ...Oh wait, you'd say that anyway :D |
| 00:54.52 | Tekkub | uh, yea AtMail |
| 00:54.59 | kergoth | k, wasnt sure when i added it |
| 00:55.01 | Tekkub | and I'd do PvPFlaged |
| 00:55.06 | Mikk | gg* |
| 00:55.10 | Kebinusan | ^^ |
| 00:55.26 | CIA-11 | 03grayhoof * r12910 10EavesDrop/ (EavesDrop.toc localization-koKR.lua readme.txt): EavesDrop: updated Korean translations. Updated files for release. |
| 00:56.05 | CIA-11 | 03kergoth * r12911 10SupplyAndDemand/Modules.lua: S&D: rename X-S&D-Mail to X-S&D-AtMail and X-S&D-PVP to X-S&D-PvPFlagged. |
| 00:57.43 | Thrae | Hmmmmmmmm |
| 00:57.44 | Kebinusan | too bad you cant unload LoD addons when the conditions are no longer true |
| 00:58.02 | Tekkub | you could, but you'd never load them up again |
| 00:58.11 | Tekkub | it's not hard to reloadui anyway |
| 00:58.23 | kergoth | itd be quite difficult, even if blizzard let you free up the tables, who knows what else the addon changed while it was running |
| 00:58.34 | kergoth | so unless you isolated the environments.. |
| 00:58.51 | Tekkub | well by "could" I meant nil yourself out, yea :) |
| 00:58.57 | Thrae | !trunk TinyTip |
| 00:59.02 | SVNBot | The latest revision of TinyTip is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/TinyTip/ |
| 01:00.06 | Pik|Silvermoon | Hurray! |
| 01:00.06 | Pik|Silvermoon | TinyTip owns |
| 01:00.06 | Tekkub | !trunk PerfectTargets |
| 01:00.10 | SVNBot | The latest revision of PerfectTargets is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/PerfectTargets/ |
| 01:00.13 | CIA-11 | 03thiana 07Thiana * r12912 10Sheppard/ (Core.lua Sheppard.toc libs/): |
| 01:00.13 | CIA-11 | Sheppard: |
| 01:00.13 | CIA-11 | * LoD now, loaded by S&D-InParty |
| 01:00.13 | CIA-11 | * Replaced Metrognome use with AceEvent (.toc and externals updated) |
| 01:00.13 | CIA-11 | * Message display now tries MSBT -> SCT -> FCT -> UIErrorMessage. |
| 01:00.14 | Tekkub | !toc PerfectTargets |
| 01:00.17 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/index.php/TOC_Data/PerfectTargets |
| 01:00.23 | Thrae | Tekkub: Not yet |
| 01:00.23 | Pik|Silvermoon | Oh that's nifty. |
| 01:00.31 | Pik|Silvermoon | You can command the SVN and wiki from here? |
| 01:00.38 | Pik|Silvermoon | I'm jealous of your special powers. |
| 01:01.02 | Mikk | Thrae: Replace "index.php" with "wiki" |
| 01:01.21 | Tekkub | baka! |
| 01:01.31 | Mikk | That's going to break so many external links :< |
| 01:01.32 | Thrae | Mikk: I already fixed that on my end, just haven't reloaded the perl script |
| 01:01.34 | Tekkub | *points at clad* |
| 01:02.05 | Weslocke | Is the WinAceUpdater significantly nicer to the server than doing extern-less checkouts via SVN? I'd rather SVN it, but will switch if it would be a help |
| 01:03.31 | Thrae | Tekkub: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/PerfectTargets <-- is this correct? If it is, X-Website is incorrect ;) |
| 01:03.44 | Weslocke | Though from the first trial run of WinAceUpdater now has my Squeenix running square but with a round border, my Bartender bars are showing the regular art and won't hide, and a few of my FuBar plugins aren't loading. :-\ |
| 01:03.49 | Industrial | Weslocke: use whatever you want :P |
| 01:03.56 | Tekkub | yes it is, and yes I've not updated TOC data for new wiki |
| 01:04.21 | Thrae | OK, !toc should work properly again. |
| 01:04.34 | Thrae | Thanks for your help, Mikk :) |
| 01:04.37 | Industrial | s/what/wich/ |
| 01:04.50 | Weslocke | Hehe... |
| 01:04.56 | Gngsk | what's !toc do? |
| 01:06.40 | Thrae | Gngsk: Updates http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/AddoName with the addon's TOC information. |
| 01:06.45 | Thrae | !url PerfectTargets |
| 01:06.45 | SVNBot | Main: http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=PerfectTargets/ |
| 01:06.45 | SVNBot | Alt: http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/PerfectTargets/ |
| 01:06.46 | SVNBot | Info: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/PerfectTargets |
| 01:07.39 | Weslocke | Hey Tek, any idea what would cause Squeenix to load a round map on load but offset from the round border, and with a /squeenix reload show a square map but leave the round border? Am I missing a specific library or somesuch? |
| 01:09.29 | Tekkub | no clue wes |
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| 01:11.55 | Weslocke | Well crap. Was worth a shot. |
| 01:18.25 | Industrial | How do I get to hinterlands? im in arathi highlands now |
| 01:19.03 | Industrial | Tried hillsbrad alterac and eastern plaguelands to get there, none. |
| 01:20.00 | Mikk | hillsbrad |
| 01:20.08 | Industrial | oh shit, got it :< |
| 01:20.08 | Thiana | Hillsbrad, it's behind that castle of humans |
| 01:20.11 | Mikk | north of the fort in eastern hillsbrad |
| 01:20.24 | Mikk | past two gryphons |
| 01:20.26 | Mikk | or trhee |
| 01:20.33 | Plorkyeran | You can also get there from WPL |
| 01:20.40 | Plorkyeran | There's a path near Scholo |
| 01:20.40 | Industrial | searched for an hour :< |
| 01:20.58 | Mikk | Plorkyeran: That's probably not the path you want to use the first time you're going there =) |
| 01:21.10 | Industrial | shitty Violet Tragan flower better be worth it :> |
| 01:21.38 | Thiana | Ah Nogenfogger |
| 01:21.39 | Plorkyeran | I've ended up taking that path the first time on most of my alts due to that I can actually find it |
| 01:22.09 | Industrial | no quest hehe |
| 01:22.09 | beerke | is there a lightweight Ace2 version similar to auctioneer ? |
| 01:22.29 | Thrae | beerke: No, only Ace1 currently |
| 01:23.00 | beerke | which is that ? |
| 01:23.18 | Plorkyeran | It's not really possible to be lightweight due to how much data it involves |
| 01:23.20 | Thrae | But when you're talking about something to compare to Auctioneer, you'd probably be using 80% of Ace2 anyway, which is similiar in resource usage to most of Ace1 |
| 01:23.30 | Weslocke | Ok another question, is !!!Libraries coming back? Wondering if that might be my issue |
| 01:23.31 | Thrae | KC_Items |
| 01:23.44 | Kebinusan | Weslocke, its !!!Lib now |
| 01:23.50 | Weslocke | Nothing in there |
| 01:24.04 | beerke | what i only need is some kind of auction scanning for avg prices, and sell based on the avg price |
| 01:24.07 | Kebinusan | !trunk !!!lib |
| 01:24.26 | Thrae | beerke: KC_Items does that by default |
| 01:25.27 | Weslocke | Whoops, nm. it's coming down now. Thanks! |
| 01:25.45 | CIA-11 | 03turan * r12913 10SoloCast/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua): Added command options and double-tap self-cast feature. |
| 01:25.55 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/SoloCast |
| 01:26.35 | Kebinusan | !trunk !!!Lib |
| 01:28.24 | Kebinusan | ah |
| 01:28.30 | Kebinusan | !trunk !!!Libs |
| 01:28.33 | SVNBot | The latest revision of !!!Libs is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/!!!Libs/ |
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| 01:31.13 | Kebinusan | ~ugt |
| 01:31.19 | purl | somebody said ugt was Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 01:31.25 | Thrae | Did it error out? |
| 01:31.27 | chrisa | Is there a reason wowace.com/files doesn't actually contain archives for the idchat2 modules? |
| 01:31.38 | Kebinusan | cause it doesnt do tags |
| 01:31.41 | Kebinusan | Im guessing |
| 01:32.04 | Kebinusan | idchat was picked up by different developer and turned into prat |
| 01:32.52 | cladhaire | it doesn't do tags |
| 01:32.56 | cladhaire | tags shoudl be posted on a website. |
| 01:33.25 | PikPikerson | Dear Cladhaire: Please fix my svn. |
| 01:33.30 | Kebinusan | mikk, whys that? |
| 01:33.32 | PikPikerson | QQ |
| 01:33.40 | Mikk | Because "prat" means "talk" in (at least) swedish |
| 01:34.06 | cladhaire | PikPikerson: Nothing is wrong with your svn.. |
| 01:34.31 | PikPikerson | Really? |
| 01:34.37 | cladhaire | yep |
| 01:34.38 | PikPikerson | I still get the 403 error. |
| 01:34.40 | PikPikerson | Weird. |
| 01:34.42 | cladhaire | then you're on the wrong URL |
| 01:34.43 | PikPikerson | I'll try the command line. |
| 01:34.45 | cladhaire | check out from teh right url. |
| 01:34.51 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace |
| 01:34.58 | PikPikerson | I'm on dev. |
| 01:35.04 | PikPikerson | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.09 | cladhaire | oh |
| 01:35.10 | cladhaire | lol |
| 01:35.13 | cladhaire | now i get it =) |
| 01:35.14 | cladhaire | now i wil look |
| 01:35.15 | PikPikerson | :P |
| 01:35.16 | cladhaire | thanks for the reminder. |
| 01:35.18 | cladhaire | been a long night =) |
| 01:35.21 | PikPikerson | Np |
| 01:37.49 | cladhaire | try what i just sent you |
| 01:40.50 | CIA-11 | 03tkieffer * r12914 10Caterer/: Creating Caterer! |
| 01:40.56 | PikPikerson | O M G! |
| 01:40.58 | PikPikerson | Thx sir. |
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| 01:44.07 | chrisa | Kaelten: Did the Ace2 KCItems get off the ground? |
| 01:57.13 | mjc | asdf. |
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| 02:07.28 | mjc | anyone around? |
| 02:08.25 | kergoth | somewhat |
| 02:12.19 | mjc | k then my crap's not busted |
| 02:12.24 | mjc | svk's been kickin ass |
| 02:12.55 | Sole | whats wrong with this? titlecolors = {1 = {r=1,g=0,b=0}, 2 = {r=0,g=1,b=0}, 3 = {r=0,g=0,b=1}}, |
| 02:13.09 | mjc | Sole: , at the end? |
| 02:13.29 | gxam | don't you have to say like [1]=bleh for numbers? |
| 02:13.45 | Sole | mjc: its in a table |
| 02:13.51 | Sole | mjc: default options |
| 02:13.55 | Sole | gxam: Ill try |
| 02:13.55 | mjc | [1] |
| 02:14.34 | Sole | yea that did it |
| 02:14.49 | PikPikerson | Well. |
| 02:14.50 | Sole | learn something every day |
| 02:15.10 | PikPikerson | If it's always r,g,b then you're wasting memory by not just using [1] [2] [3] to imply r g b |
| 02:16.02 | Sole | you mean [1] = {1, 2, 3} ? |
| 02:16.37 | PikPikerson | Which would just make it t = {1 = {FF, 00, AA}, 2 = {00, 22, 33}} |
| 02:17.01 | PikPikerson | So that t[1][1] is red for titlecolor 1. t[1][2] is g, etc. |
| 02:17.22 | Sole | alrighty |
| 02:17.24 | Sole | thank you :) |
| 02:17.33 | PikPikerson | Only reason you'd need to take memory to name the index '"r" "g" "b" is if they change. |
| 02:17.46 | PikPikerson | But if it's always r g b then just use the numerical index. |
| 02:18.23 | Sole | well they will be changed later on |
| 02:18.31 | Xuerian | It's easier if you don't index them with r, g, b, since most color functions take three values (r, g, b) as arguments and then that color can handily be unpack()'d |
| 02:18.36 | Sole | user can change the color |
| 02:18.46 | PikPikerson | Sure. |
| 02:18.51 | Xuerian | You can always go t[1][1] or t[1][2] |
| 02:19.04 | PikPikerson | But they change the values of r g and b, not the index "r" "g" or "b" |
| 02:19.07 | Xuerian | And it'll always be 1.r, etc |
| 02:19.26 | Sole | k |
| 02:19.32 | Sole | thanks guys |
| 02:19.49 | PikPikerson | In fact |
| 02:20.15 | PikPikerson | Since a color requires all 3 (r g and b) in order to actually function you could just save the string "FFAA00" |
| 02:20.42 | Sole | hmm |
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| 02:20.46 | Xuerian | Easier to save the three values in most cases |
| 02:20.50 | Xuerian | Just not indexed |
| 02:21.32 | Sole | does SetTextColor and other widget functions accept a string for color? |
| 02:21.46 | Sole | i always thought they required 3 values |
| 02:22.00 | Xuerian | SetVertexColor(unpack(t[1])) :) |
| 02:22.28 | Sole | :) |
| 02:22.45 | Thrae | Sole: No, but you can use |cxxxxxxxx|r in the string passed to :SetText(). All text not within a |c...|r block will obey :SetTextColor()'s color. |
| 02:23.13 | Xuerian | That's true. What are you using to let the user set colors? |
| 02:23.50 | Sole | well im gonna use a color wheel I guess |
| 02:25.04 | Xuerian | Not sure how they actually set values, what's easier depends on what they return I guess =P.. I just use AceOptions to handle it, and storing it as three values is easiest for that |
| 02:26.02 | Thrae | hexColor = string.format("%2x%2x%2x",r*255,g*255,b*255); <-- easy way to convert when needed |
| 02:26.17 | ckknight | not quite |
| 02:26.23 | ckknight | you need %02x, not %2x |
| 02:26.59 | mjc | ckknight: it seems converting the savedvar for FuBar to a defaults thing is hard |
| 02:27.04 | mjc | er than I thought |
| 02:27.17 | ckknight | k |
| 02:27.26 | Thrae | ckknight: I've always used %2x with converting RAID_CLASS_COLORS, and it's been working fine... |
| 02:27.35 | mjc | or at least, the formats seem to be different |
| 02:27.37 | ckknight | Thrae, doesn't work for <16 |
| 02:27.43 | ckknight | it'll return " f" instead of "0f" |
| 02:27.55 | ckknight | afaik. |
| 02:28.15 | Thrae | afaik, %2x tells it to force a percision of 2 |
| 02:28.38 | ckknight | lemme see for sure. |
| 02:28.54 | Thrae | s/percision/precision/ |
| 02:29.14 | ckknight | > =string.format("%2x", 15) |
| 02:29.14 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.32 | ckknight | > =string.format("%02x", 15) |
| 02:29.32 | ckknight | 0f |
| 02:29.47 | Thrae | In WoW? |
| 02:29.48 | ckknight | if you don't put the 0 in, it fills with spaces instead of 0s. |
| 02:29.58 | ckknight | I don't know, that was lua standalone |
| 02:30.06 | Thrae | Lemme check WoW. |
| 02:30.06 | ckknight | but I can almost guarantee it. |
| 02:30.41 | Thrae | Well I am 100% sure RAID_CLASS_COLORS has values <16 |
| 02:31.36 | Thrae | ooo, all kinds of nice fatalities after waiting all this time |
| 02:32.10 | Thrae | BugSack even gives an error, awesome. Anyway... |
| 02:33.25 | Thrae | Well WoW gives the same result too, so not sure why TinyTip never errored out. Perhaps I had it right at one point, but then changed it. Oh well. |
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| 02:39.32 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12915 10Chronometer/Data/Hunter.lua: Chronometer: Fix some hunter timer durations |
| 02:39.51 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r12916 10PerfectRaid/ (4 files): |
| 02:39.51 | CIA-11 | PerfectRaid: |
| 02:39.51 | CIA-11 | * Added an option to show/hide the debuff indicator |
| 02:39.51 | CIA-11 | * Resolved a number of issues with sorting, should work as expected |
| 02:39.51 | CIA-11 | * Removed the keybinding for Sorting, until it can be coded properly. It only toggled between class and group, which isn't how it should operate. |
| 02:39.54 | CIA-11 | * We should set up three bindings, "Group Sort", "Class Sort" and "Option Sort", where option sort uses the SAVED option value. |
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| 02:44.00 | CIA-11 | 03thiana * r12917 10GMail/GMail.lua: GMail: Check if events are already (un)registered before (un)registering. |
| 02:45.16 | Thiana | Is there an Ace2 replacement for SmartMedic? (not consumer since that uses action buttons) |
| 02:45.33 | mjc | wtf is smartmedic |
| 02:45.51 | Thiana | mjc: Smart Bandage/Food/Water/Potion |
| 02:45.59 | mjc | ? |
| 02:46.55 | Thiana | ie, picks the least wasteful potion/food/water when you click. For example, if you hit the eat food one, it will preferentially eat conjured food. For bandages if in a BG, it uses BG bandages before others, etc etc |
| 02:47.39 | mjc | why not just set up a potion bar... |
| 02:48.01 | Thrae | Thiana: Not to my knowledge, I use my own function from ThraeFuncs, UseEitherItem(). |
| 02:48.51 | Thrae | UseEitherItem("Water","Dew"), etc. |
| 02:53.13 | Thiana | Because for me hitting Ctrl-Alt-W/F (food/water) is simpler than setting up bars for whatever food/water I currently have in inventory. Plus it's less screen space and I prefer a minimal looking interface |
| 02:53.13 | Thiana | Thrae: Hmm, that may work. Just would need a lot of initial setup. |
| 02:53.13 | Thiana | mjc: Plus it's the same buttons on all my characters without worrying about the specific items |
| 02:53.13 | mjc | shrug |
| 02:53.13 | Thrae | Thiana: Give me the names of the bandages for 35,25,and 45+ and I'll add in Thrae_UseBGBandage() to go along with Thrae_UseBGRation() |
| 02:53.13 | Tain | I already added in Tain_UsedYourMom() |
| 02:53.14 | Thiana | Thrae: I dont know them offhand, and I'm not in game atm. |
| 02:53.53 | Thrae | While there is an initial setup with this method, the alternative would be to have a static database of possible drinks, potions, etc. |
| 02:54.13 | notMusic | Oh nice :D A search function for my bags is handy |
| 02:54.56 | Sole | error: OptionHandler "PrintAddonInfo" not found anybody have any idea why? also get it with a "ToggleAnchors" execute command I put in..another chat command works though |
| 02:55.00 | Thrae | As well as which of these was currently in your bags, meaning it has to respond to bag updates |
| 02:56.09 | PikPikerson | Thiana: Autobar (Toadkiller) is not bad... |
| 02:56.36 | Thiana | Autobar is a buttons thing isnt it? Does it have keybindings for food/water/etc? |
| 02:56.47 | PikPikerson | You can bind keys to it's buttons. |
| 02:57.04 | kergoth | autobar is really nice |
| 02:57.10 | kergoth | hell of a lot more resource heavy than XAD though |
| 02:57.13 | PikPikerson | And toadkiller has been doing good work since Saien quit WoW |
| 02:57.19 | PikPikerson | Yea. |
| 02:57.52 | [FH]Birdemani | toadkiller has mentioned that he is going ace2 or at least periodic table with it |
| 02:58.20 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r12918 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Added rudimentary support for Dewdrop. Just need to get the option text set and decide how users will open it. |
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| 03:02.25 | Thiana | XAD ? |
| 03:02.41 | Thrae | !notes XAD |
| 03:02.41 | SVNBot | XAD Notes: X Automated Dispensor || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/XAD |
| 03:02.48 | [FH]Birdemani | was curious, did xad spawn from consumer? |
| 03:03.15 | Thiana | !url XAD |
| 03:03.15 | SVNBot | Main: http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=XAD/ |
| 03:03.15 | SVNBot | Alt: http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/XAD/ |
| 03:03.15 | SVNBot | Info: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/XAD |
| 03:04.52 | kergoth | Thiana: nice job on the new sheppard, it kicks ass |
| 03:05.06 | Thiana | kergoth: Thanks :) |
| 03:06.04 | kergoth | when are ya gonna merge it to trunk and release it? :) |
| 03:06.46 | mjc | Thiana: it doesn't do well with microassist and/or autoattack, otherwise I love it |
| 03:07.15 | Thiana | mjc: I dont use either of those. How is it misbehaving? |
| 03:07.36 | Kebinusan | bleh I think some mod is misbehaving and getting me dc'd |
| 03:07.52 | CIA-11 | 03fenlis * r12919 10Bartender2/Bartender2-Locale-koKR.lua: Bartender2: update locals koKR |
| 03:08.44 | CIA-11 | 03fenlis * r12920 10Clique/Localization.kr.lua: Clique : update locals koKR |
| 03:08.53 | Thiana | XAD actually looks like what I want. I can just hide the button bar and use the bindings :) |
| 03:09.32 | mjc | Thiana: AA pops the sheep before sheppard can change target |
| 03:09.47 | CIA-11 | 03fenlis * r12921 10PerfectRaid/Localization.koKR.lua: PerfectRaid : update locals koKR |
| 03:09.50 | mjc | and MA assists classes or targets, so it usually picks the right one |
| 03:09.58 | mjc | yet it always clears of course |
| 03:10.26 | mjc | Thiana: also, it'd be sweet if it'd not kick you off of a CC'd mob if it's the only mob left |
| 03:10.43 | CIA-11 | 03fenlis * r12922 10XRS/localizations/koKR.lua: XRS : update locals koKR |
| 03:10.57 | Thiana | mjc: The target change thing. You could try decreasing the cleartarget delay, but it has to be long enough for SEAuras to finish scanning otherwise you end up with a really nasty infinite loop. |
| 03:11.24 | Thiana | mjc: I'm going to add that once the target scanning code from PerfectTargets is made into a lib. Someone else is working on that atm. |
| 03:11.39 | mjc | Thiana: cool. |
| 03:11.59 | mjc | glad to see you've thought of it :) |
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| 03:12.14 | Thiana | mjc: wrt to MA, just set /shep whitelist all. That way no target clearing is done, but you still get a little notice about the target being CCed. |
| 03:12.17 | mjc | cause I odn't have enough time to raid anymore let alone work on mods much |
| 03:12.28 | mjc | ah, cool. |
| 03:16.10 | CIA-11 | 03tkieffer * r12923 10/trunk/ (19 files in 9 dirs): Importing Caterer (0.3) |
| 03:16.41 | PikPikerson | Ok. I screwed that up. |
| 03:16.56 | CIA-11 | 03tkieffer * r12924 10/trunk/Caterer.change.log: Fixing Bad Import |
| 03:17.08 | CIA-11 | 03tkieffer * r12925 10/trunk/Caterer.lua: Fixing Bad Import |
| 03:17.14 | CIA-11 | 03tkieffer * r12926 10/trunk/Caterer.toc: Fixing Bad Import |
| 03:17.19 | CIA-11 | 03tkieffer * r12927 10/trunk/Locale-enUS.lua: Fixing Bad Import |
| 03:17.38 | kergoth | mjc: how's microassist? |
| 03:17.40 | CIA-11 | 03tkieffer * r12928 10Libs/: Fixing Bad Import |
| 03:17.42 | kergoth | havent tried it |
| 03:18.10 | CIA-11 | 03tkieffer * r12929 10Caterer/ (19 files in 9 dirs): Importing Caterer (0.3) |
| 03:18.25 | PikPikerson | Hurray. |
| 03:18.28 | PikPikerson | Worked that time. |
| 03:18.28 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Caterer |
| 03:18.47 | mjc | kergoth: great targetting logic, heard it's crappily written |
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| 03:19.14 | ckknight_ | hey all |
| 03:19.49 | mjc | hey ckk |
| 03:20.13 | Sole | hai |
| 03:20.16 | ckknight_ | hey, in class now |
| 03:20.24 | ckknight_ | wonder what the name of the class is... |
| 03:21.20 | Sole | weird..I updated my libraries yet I get AceConsole-2.0: Option handler "ToggleAnchor" not found. |
| 03:22.13 | Sole | its only with 1 addon too |
| 03:22.19 | ckknight_ | apparently it's CSCI 3806: Programming Challenges |
| 03:23.06 | kergoth | Sole: go to the line in the addon thats doing it, find where it tries to put toggleanchor in the aceoptions. add handler = self to that table |
| 03:24.14 | kergoth | apparently handler isnt set to self by default, *shrug*, i dont know much about aceoptions handling |
| 03:24.31 | Sole | kergoth: so local options = { handler = self, etc} ? |
| 03:25.09 | kergoth | no. |
| 03:25.23 | kergoth | handler = self _in that subtable thats setting func to toggleanchor) |
| 03:26.02 | Sole | ok but I also get the error with /ant about |
| 03:26.17 | Sole | which is a default AceConsole command |
| 03:26.35 | kergoth | maybe the handler thing was a bug and that just works around it |
| 03:26.37 | kergoth | i dunno |
| 03:27.14 | Sole | weird |
| 03:30.53 | dreyruugr | !toc Sprocket |
| 03:31.13 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Sprocket |
| 03:32.17 | dreyruugr | Where is that thing getting's the toc files from? |
| 03:36.07 | eternall1777 | What's a player's UnitHealth when they're in ghost form? |
| 03:38.39 | Kebinusan | 1 |
| 03:38.43 | Kebinusan | I think |
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| 03:46.01 | Aquam | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:46.17 | Aquam | a lot of addons not working in TBC alpha :( |
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| 03:48.14 | Tekkub | Thrae, <SVNBot> ERROR: Cannot find http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/WhoAmI! |
| 03:48.17 | Tekkub | /root/ ?? |
| 03:48.19 | Tekkub | :P |
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| 03:49.13 | Tekkub | !trunk Prat_Buttons |
| 03:49.19 | Tekkub | I broke SVNBot! |
| 03:49.38 | Tekkub | well it was fun while it lasted |
| 03:50.38 | [FH]Birdemani | [AMMO] Noticed something on the Cooldown Monitor, if the names are long, you will not get the full time displayed, the seconds part of the clock looks like ".." |
| 03:52.30 | [FH]Birdemani | wierd, it shows, 24:.., 24:41, 24:.., 24:19, etc |
| 03:56.18 | Galka | Question: Why was the folder renamed !!!Libs from !!!Libraries? Curious :D |
| 03:57.05 | Xuerian | Path was too long for some textures to load (See: Chronometer) |
| 03:57.23 | Galka | Ah |
| 03:57.26 | Galka | Thank you sir |
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| 04:00.50 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r12930 10/trunk/ (FuBar_PursueFu/ FuBar_TrackerFu/): |
| 04:00.50 | CIA-11 | TrackerFu: |
| 04:00.50 | CIA-11 | * Renamed to "PersueFu". |
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| 04:05.28 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12931 10Chronometer/Data/Rogue.lua: Chronometer: fix some rogue timers |
| 04:06.38 | Noto|Anenga | Is there a way for ORaid's MTT bar to make it less wide but not less in scale? |
| 04:08.38 | Sole | hmm |
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| 04:15.40 | eternall1777 | At what point in the loading process is my addon enabled? |
| 04:15.49 | eternall1777 | Before or after the "PLAYER_LOGIN" event? |
| 04:16.33 | eternall1777 | I'm trying to send a message whenever a player comes back to life after being dead, but if I try to send the message on the "PLAYER_ALIVE" event, it'll fire the message at login |
| 04:18.42 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12932 10Chronometer/ (Chronometer.toc Core/Chronometer.lua): Chronometer: Add ParserLib to the optional dependencies, and put in a potential fix for some macro spellcasts (need to test, though...) |
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| 04:22.29 | CIA-11 | 03prandur * r12933 10FuBar_ItemBonusesFu/ItemBonusesFu.lua: FuBar_ItemBonusesFu: added .independentProfile |
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| 04:23.43 | Arrowmaster | wtf no! why does ItemBonusesFu need .independentProfile |
| 04:25.39 | Sole | is that for special kids? |
| 04:29.35 | dreyruugr | Anyone home? |
| 04:29.58 | dreyruugr | Someone that uses BigWigs perhaps |
| 04:30.31 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:31.14 | dreyruugr | Wanna do me a favor? |
| 04:31.18 | dreyruugr | =) |
| 04:31.19 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 04:31.47 | dreyruugr | http://www.ambientdrone.com/Dewdrop-2.0.lua |
| 04:32.09 | dreyruugr | Give that try, navigate the menus and tell me how it feels |
| 04:32.29 | ckknight_ | navigate the menus? |
| 04:32.31 | Arrowmaster | how is it suppost to be different? |
| 04:32.33 | ckknight_ | what'd you change? |
| 04:32.41 | dreyruugr | ckknight: ever use a mac? |
| 04:32.46 | ckknight | not really |
| 04:32.53 | ckknight | just tell me how it changed |
| 04:33.02 | ckknight | I have used a mac, just not often |
| 04:33.18 | dreyruugr | I added some minor delays and other tests that happen before a button is selected, and a submenu is opened |
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| 04:33.47 | dreyruugr | Based on mac meus |
| 04:33.50 | dreyruugr | er menus eve |
| 04:34.42 | Xuerian | This is promising =D /tries |
| 04:35.09 | Fahlen | hey dreyruugr, I just started using your Sprocket mod, and I have to say, if I can actually get it to work, it'd be one of the coolest mods ever. |
| 04:35.21 | dreyruugr | what's not workin about it for you? |
| 04:35.51 | Fahlen | I'm trying to figure out how to get one menus to pop up when i left click on the floating button |
| 04:36.00 | dreyruugr | perhaps it's my horrendously confusing UI? |
| 04:36.16 | dreyruugr | Fahlen: Did you read the last thing I posted in the forums? |
| 04:36.32 | Fahlen | I was just starting to read them, I'll hop to the end |
| 04:37.04 | dreyruugr | follow the steps in my last post and you should be all good |
| 04:37.35 | Sole | wow |
| 04:37.54 | Arrowmaster | dreyruugr: trying it out and its a kinda interesting change |
| 04:38.02 | Sole | HostelBar's CheckInfo method: 69 lines , Antagonist's CheckInfo method: 16 lines |
| 04:38.10 | Sole | and it performs basicly the same thing |
| 04:38.16 | dreyruugr | Arrowmaster: anything feel off about it? |
| 04:38.23 | Sole | so much easier without durations now |
| 04:38.59 | Arrowmaster | seems a little weird having a delay for opening a submenu but then switching submenus being instant, but i wouldnt want a delay for switching submenus |
| 04:39.13 | mjc | dreyruugr: MT target support for ora/ctra/whatnot'd be pretty hot :) |
| 04:39.23 | Fahlen | dreyruugr: Thanks so much, sorry to waste your time trying to figure that one out instead of reading the forums, hehe. |
| 04:39.36 | dreyruugr | mjc: write a plugin :) |
| 04:39.48 | dreyruugr | with my exciting undocumented API! |
| 04:39.55 | mjc | hardly any time... speaking of |
| 04:39.56 | mjc | zzz |
| 04:40.24 | Neebler | arrowmaster: ever figure out how to get the pagebreaks in a guildname? |
| 04:40.31 | Arrowmaster | no =( |
| 04:41.03 | dreyruugr | ckknight: did you try it out? |
| 04:42.01 | mjc | Neebler: that's possible??? |
| 04:42.16 | Neebler | yar. saw it in a screenshot posted here a day ago |
| 04:42.21 | Arrowmaster | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/jannyplushie/guildiz7.jpg |
| 04:42.23 | MentalPower | http://basshunter.m0o.eu/dota/index_l33t.php |
| 04:42.45 | Cairenn | lol, watches the link circulate the channels |
| 04:42.51 | Sole | hmm |
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| 04:43.09 | Sole | Im thinking of what possible color options to implement for Antagonist barcolors |
| 04:43.13 | mjc | what in the fuck |
| 04:43.26 | Sole | class, school, group? or maybe just have them preset |
| 04:44.00 | Sole | anyone? :( |
| 04:44.15 | dreyruugr | What's Antagonist? |
| 04:44.20 | MentalPower | Cairenn: you have no idea :) |
| 04:44.26 | Sole | Antagonist = HostelBar 2 |
| 04:44.37 | Cairenn | MentalPower: heh, oh yes I do |
| 04:44.52 | dreyruugr | What's HostelBar? |
| 04:45.05 | [FH]Birdemani | hostelbar is somewhat like necb |
| 04:45.22 | haste | MentalPower, Basshunter :((( |
| 04:45.31 | dreyruugr | Ahh... I see, enemy cast bar? |
| 04:46.45 | Sole | dreyruugr: yep |
| 04:47.01 | dreyruugr | School would be useful for sure |
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| 04:48.12 | MentalPower | haste: whats wrong with them? |
| 04:48.26 | dreyruugr | I'd suggest showing that, and setting the default colors (if you allow changing them) to match the colors for resistances displayed in a character pane |
| 04:48.41 | Galka | Solo I dont get it, HostelBar 2 already? |
| 04:48.43 | Galka | Why? |
| 04:48.50 | haste | MentalPower, It's one guy, making songs that get stuck on your brain, and they all sound horrible :( |
| 04:48.51 | Galka | Or just your way of saying HostelBar is being renamed? |
| 04:48.54 | haste | MentalPower, and the lyrics just makes me sad |
| 04:49.10 | XLVII | does anyone have a G5? |
| 04:49.15 | XLVII | logitech G5, that is. |
| 04:49.27 | mjc | I have a G7 and a powermac G5 |
| 04:49.48 | mjc | :P |
| 04:49.56 | ckknight | dreyruugr, I'm in class, I can't try it out |
| 04:50.14 | dreyruugr | ckknight: no worries, it's mostly a proof of concept |
| 04:50.36 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r12934 10FuBar_PursueFu/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:50.36 | CIA-11 | PursueFu: |
| 04:50.36 | CIA-11 | * Added a "Reminder" feature. |
| 04:50.36 | CIA-11 | * Implemented the "Hide Minimap Icon" option. |
| 04:50.37 | CIA-11 | * Many small changes to reflect the new title. |
| 04:50.38 | Sole | lmao |
| 04:50.43 | ckknight | if you think it's shiny and get other people to agree that it's better, I wouldn't mind committing it |
| 04:51.13 | XLVII | I think Industrial brought it up earlier, but would it be possible for every slider, there be a box which you can put numbers in to specify _exactly_ how big / small / whatever you want it to be? It'd make it a lot easier, because I've found tat if you move it, you can never get it back on 100 again.. |
| 04:51.28 | Galka | Seconding that request :) |
| 04:51.40 | Sole | Galka: because with the release of Chronometer and HostelBar becoming increasingly larger I decided it was time for a rehash |
| 04:51.49 | dreyruugr | ckknight: I'd like to at some point, but the implementation could be optimized a bit... I was just throwing in stuff to make it run |
| 04:51.56 | ckknight | alright |
| 04:51.56 | Galka | Sounds sexy Sole. |
| 04:52.03 | ckknight | I do consider optimization important. |
| 04:52.39 | Sole | Ive never heard of Basshunter, but imo he has a pro album name, "LOL <(^^,)>" |
| 04:53.05 | Sole | Galka: you probably wont like it, Im not implementing durations |
| 04:53.13 | Galka | I will like it |
| 04:53.15 | Galka | I use Chronometer |
| 04:53.24 | Sole | then you'll love it :) |
| 04:53.28 | Galka | :) |
| 04:54.07 | Sole | its not much different from HostelBar, its just a lot cleaner and more efficient |
| 04:54.15 | XLVII | Can someone recommend me a decent gaming mouse? I'm buying two new computer systems purely for gaming.. |
| 04:54.35 | Anomoly | the mouse you like the most? |
| 04:54.38 | Sole | a >lot< less processing happening now with the removal of Durations |
| 04:55.21 | kergoth | yay |
| 04:56.08 | haste | Sole, he makes songs about an IRC bot and sitting on VT playing DoTa, says enough :p |
| 04:56.18 | Sole | the DOTA song is lol |
| 04:56.44 | haste | everything he does is "LOL" |
| 04:56.53 | Sole | true |
| 04:57.01 | Sole | even his album name, literaly |
| 04:57.15 | haste | and the fact that I've heard his songs since April starts to annoy me :p |
| 04:57.24 | Sole | haha |
| 04:57.43 | Sole | anyway I think Im going to dump the bgcolor option with Antagonist |
| 04:58.08 | Sole | reason being: if barcolor and bgcolor are set to the same thing it looks poopy, the default candybar bgcolor is a nice neutral color |
| 04:59.16 | Sole | feedback = nil >_< |
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| 05:00.10 | haste | I don't use Hostelbar :D |
| 05:01.29 | PProvost | New version of WinAceUpdater on SF.net: http://sourceforge.net/projects/winaceupdater/ |
| 05:01.45 | PProvost | Fixes the bugs w/ TinyTooltipOptions and not being able to add new addons. |
| 05:02.03 | Sole | haste: im sure someone does though :P |
| 05:02.51 | haste | Sole, think your forum topic is the place to get replies :D |
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| 05:05.22 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r12935 10SupplyAndDemand/Modules.lua: SupplyAndDemand - Module name cleanup |
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| 05:06.04 | laci|pvp | mornin folks |
| 05:06.47 | Xuerian | 'morning |
| 05:06.47 | PProvost | I wishheyo |
| 05:06.54 | PProvost | s/I wishh/h/ |
| 05:06.56 | laci|pvp | yeah not morning for me either, but UGT ftw lol |
| 05:08.08 | laci|pvp | are there any "rules" regarding branching an addon? in terms of permissions etc, or is it just kinda i wanna try/do this? |
| 05:11.23 | eternall1777 | It's generally polite to as |
| 05:11.23 | Xuerian | I think you can just branch at will |
| 05:11.33 | eternall1777 | s/to as/to ask/ |
| 05:11.40 | Xuerian | But any modifications to the trunk should definately be asked about :) |
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| 05:11.48 | eternall1777 | Why's my name screwed up... /sigh |
| 05:12.06 | lacindas | its ok, i dont even have dev access, i cant modify anything yet ;) |
| 05:12.52 | lacindas | i was reading that post earlier about dev standards and module vs plugin etc and it got me thinking about mods and branches etc, hence the question |
| 05:13.32 | lacindas | but yeah, i figured it would be best to ask before branching someones stuff |
| 05:14.07 | eternally777 | But still, if you can't get ahold of them, it's okay to branch. it's the beauty of opensource |
| 05:16.14 | XLVII | AM2 or X2? |
| 05:16.37 | eternally777 | huh? |
| 05:16.55 | Mikma | http://slate.kaasu.org/epixmount.jpg |
| 05:17.41 | eternally777 | Mikma: haha |
| 05:18.22 | lacindas | hehe, its ok, i still need to learn enough to earn dev access before i can try branching anything :) |
| 05:18.31 | lacindas | mikma: lmao |
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| 05:18.36 | lacindas | thats grea |
| 05:18.38 | lacindas | *great |
| 05:21.16 | Mikma | sometimes i'd like to /poke my friend in pancreas for doing things like that |
| 05:22.55 | Sole | playertargettarget is the UnitID of Target of Target, right? |
| 05:23.06 | Sole | so UnitName("playertargettarget") will return ToT |
| 05:23.35 | Xuerian | Is that a belf? |
| 05:24.15 | Xuerian | If it is, it reminds me of a "Dumb blonde" stereotype >_> |
| 05:24.48 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r12936 10FuBar_PursueFu/FuBar_PursueFu.toc: |
| 05:24.48 | CIA-11 | PursueFu: |
| 05:24.48 | CIA-11 | * Fixing TOC keywords. |
| 05:25.47 | Mikma | !info FuBar_PursueFu |
| 05:25.57 | XLVII | I need an AMD guru, please send a query! |
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| 05:33.34 | Mikma | !trunk Bartender2 |
| 05:33.49 | Mikma | SVNBot: yohoo? |
| 05:39.22 | Sole | *poke* SVNBot |
| 05:45.35 | notMusic | Is it possible to create a table with tablet, that only has one column? |
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| 05:46.44 | ckknight | yes, notMusic |
| 05:46.52 | ckknight | you just set columns to 1 instead of something else |
| 05:46.55 | ckknight | reasonably simple, that |
| 05:47.25 | Mikma | !toc Prat |
| 05:47.33 | Mikma | the bot is stuck :( |
| 05:48.11 | notMusic | And is it possible to call a function from a line, even if it's one column? For some reason it won't work for me, just want to make sure if I built it incorrectly or if its not possible :P |
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| 06:00.21 | Sole | bah, I cant show a portion of a frame without showing the whole frame |
| 06:00.40 | Sole | I can do anchor.title:Show() without doing anchor:Show() which shows the title anyway but I dont want to show the anchor underneath it |
| 06:01.10 | Gngsk | how about messing with alpha |
| 06:01.43 | Sole | yea I could do that |
| 06:02.00 | XLVII | http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=84141 |
| 06:02.07 | Sole | I think I might just make a new table that points to the titles and make the titles a whole new frame |
| 06:03.52 | Gngsk | *shrug* just providing an alternative that might work |
| 06:04.52 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1837.msg48723#msg48723 |
| 06:04.59 | Mikma | is this evul enough? |
| 06:05.28 | Mikma | yes, evul. it's more evil than the word evil.. |
| 06:07.35 | lacindas | mikma: rofl +1 |
| 06:08.18 | Mikma | gz me, Senior Member |
| 06:08.37 | Gngsk | way to go bucko |
| 06:08.55 | Mikma | thanks baby *wink* *wink* |
| 06:09.02 | Gngsk | *lick* |
| 06:10.02 | Mikma | oh yeah and i don't have to redo my Access-test... 100% correct |
| 06:10.08 | Mikma | that means more sparetime |
| 06:11.57 | lacindas | whats an easy way to test a function that relies on a players spells changing event? |
| 06:12.48 | oxman | ? |
| 06:13.22 | lacindas | im trying to test a function to see if the code works, but the events im hooking all rely on the players spellbook being changed somehow |
| 06:13.33 | lacindas | oh, i could just hook it to a diff event |
| 06:13.45 | oxman | there is a library for event spell learning |
| 06:13.48 | oxman | or something like that |
| 06:14.00 | Gngsk | check Lrn2Spell |
| 06:14.00 | lacindas | nvm, ill use like something easy, like changing the players mana or something |
| 06:14.34 | oxman | it better to use a library to share the code |
| 06:14.34 | oxman | :) |
| 06:14.55 | oxman | you need one line of a library ? use it |
| 06:15.13 | oxman | because one other addon can use the library, so it remove one line in your code |
| 06:15.13 | oxman | ;) |
| 06:18.31 | lacindas | yeah, im using SpellCache to do the searching through the spellbook, just havent the slightest clue how to use it lol |
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| 06:19.16 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12938 10AlfCast/ (14 files in 7 dirs): AlfCast: EgoCast with alt-support. Initial import |
| 06:19.30 | lacindas | so i worked out a simple function with some debug and want to be able to fire it whenever i want for testing, so i just hooked it to UNIT_MANA for now, figuring itll call the function whenever i cast a spell, easy enough to duplicate |
| 06:19.56 | lacindas | course, bugsack is prolly gonna go nuts when i login now but we'll see lol |
| 06:21.03 | KrteK | Someone know what's the default number of lines in window's chat history ? |
| 06:22.00 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12939 10AlfCast/libs/ (6 files in 6 dirs): AlfCast: Setting externals and removing libraries |
| 06:22.36 | Mikma | !trunk AlfCast |
| 06:25.24 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12940 10AlfCast/AlfCast.lua: AlfCast: Should work now :) |
| 06:25.32 | Mikma | heh stupid little typos and copypastes |
| 06:27.41 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12941 10AlfCast/AlfCast.lua: AlfCast: yeah, let's fix it again |
| 06:27.51 | Mikma | !trunk AlfCast |
| 06:28.03 | Mikma | i'll make a toggle for it later :P |
| 06:28.42 | Sole | bah CandyBar is acting up :( |
| 06:28.52 | Sole | no textures on bars |
| 06:29.05 | Mikma | Sole: using !!!Libraries perhaps? |
| 06:29.13 | Sole | nope |
| 06:29.19 | lacindas | yeah, candybar is working fine on some mods and not on others, its odd (happened when i installed chronometer) |
| 06:29.38 | Sole | its fine on chronometer |
| 06:29.46 | Sole | its fine on 4/5 of the hostelbar test bars |
| 06:29.54 | Sole | the one thats not showing is the default texture |
| 06:30.14 | Sole | but when I try using anything with Antagonist |
| 06:30.19 | Sole | its empty |
| 06:30.49 | lacindas | heh my chronometer vanished somehow =S |
| 06:31.43 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12942 10!!!Libs/!!!Libraries.toc: !!!Libs: Removing the other, old .toc |
| 06:31.45 | lacindas | got my chronometer back, but now candy isnt working on that or gotwood lol |
| 06:32.24 | lacindas | could be the bug in my mod tho i spose, off to try and fix that lol |
| 06:33.21 | lacindas | dumb question, is "debug" enabled by default as a /command if you mixin AceDebug? |
| 06:36.47 | Kemayo | It's annoying checking for past mentions of myself, seeing people come in, ask about my addons, then vanish without actually saying what they wanted. |
| 06:38.13 | lacindas | kemayo: was it your branch of ag_uf that was adding portraits or a different one, my memory fails me |
| 06:40.40 | Sole | lacindas: no it isnt |
| 06:40.58 | lacindas | http://ace.pastey.net/1321 (anyone see where this is missing an "end"?) |
| 06:41.12 | Kemayo | lacindas: Your memory is quite correct. |
| 06:41.18 | Mikma | over there lol, can't you see it |
| 06:41.56 | lacindas | kk, gonna check out your branch then Kem :) |
| 06:42.15 | Tekkub | Kemayo, the lesson here is, stop caring :) |
| 06:42.23 | Mikma | Kemayo: about portraits.. are you willing to listen to me whine? :) |
| 06:43.03 | Kemayo | Tekkub: I wish I could be more like you. *_* |
| 06:43.11 | Kemayo | Mikma: Sure, sure. :-P |
| 06:43.25 | Tekkub | it's easy, just think about all the money you get paid for your addons |
| 06:43.27 | lacindas | Tekkub: lol |
| 06:43.44 | Mikma | Kemayo: i have a rogue in my party which is standing next to me. kk portrait ok. then i invite a warlock to party which is on the other side of the world. he gets the same portrait as the rogue has :D |
| 06:43.51 | Kemayo | I just have to adjust the agUF wiki page so that it doesn't say I'm working on combat status icons. WTF? |
| 06:44.06 | Mikma | Kemayo: so a range-check and non-movable portrait for persons without portrait would be nice |
| 06:44.07 | Kemayo | Quirky. |
| 06:44.22 | Mikma | lacindas: just a sec |
| 06:44.47 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r12943 10FuBar_FriendsFu/ (. FuBar_FriendsFu.toc): |
| 06:44.47 | CIA-11 | FuBar_FriendsFu |
| 06:44.47 | CIA-11 | - putting 2.2 together |
| 06:45.03 | lacindas | mikma: take youre time, ive got plenty of work left to do once i start to figure out spellcache lol |
| 06:45.13 | Kemayo | Mikma: Is that the only glitch when in parties? |
| 06:45.18 | Mikma | lacindas: http://ace.pastey.net/1323 what about this one? |
| 06:45.38 | Mikma | Kemayo: not sure about raid since my aguf goes away |
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| 06:45.55 | lacindas | mikma: wouldnt that put the debug outside of the function? |
| 06:46.15 | lacindas | well, lemme try it and see what bugsack thinks lol |
| 06:46.15 | Mikma | lacindas: not sure :D |
| 06:46.25 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r12944 10FuBar_GuildFu/ (. FuBar_GuildFu.lua FuBar_GuildFu.toc): |
| 06:46.26 | CIA-11 | FuBar_GuildFu |
| 06:46.26 | CIA-11 | - putting 2.2 together |
| 06:46.38 | Mikma | lacindas: don't mind about the end which is highlighted it's at the wrong position |
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| 06:46.54 | Mikma | i just moved it from the "else" spot to the end and didn't use spaces |
| 06:47.21 | Mikma | lacindas: http://ace.pastey.net/1324 like this |
| 06:47.54 | lacindas | ahh, missed the else part all together |
| 06:48.12 | lacindas | yep trying that now |
| 06:49.20 | lacindas | ok, that fixed the "end" error, but apparently i cant use spellcache as a mixin hehe |
| 06:50.15 | Mikma | well it might be my code to othat sucks since i have no idea what's wrong :) |
| 06:50.40 | lacindas | hehe me neither :) |
| 06:50.54 | Mikma | soon nevcairiel will come here and says "lol it's this and that" and it works |
| 06:51.15 | lacindas | i better make some coffee and hope nev doesnt shoot me ;P |
| 06:51.49 | lacindas | oop, im gettin there, now its a Babble-Spell error :) |
| 06:53.08 | lacindas | time to wiki babblespell i thinks |
| 06:54.21 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r12945 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFu.lua: |
| 06:54.21 | CIA-11 | FuBar_GuildFu |
| 06:54.21 | CIA-11 | - let's retry zipping... |
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| 07:00.33 | lacindas | well, got rid of all the start up errors, but i get an error when the function should be called |
| 07:01.08 | lacindas | if method "debug" returns nil then everything before it didnt work, correct? |
| 07:01.19 | hiflyer | I've been doing some small changes to add buff duration support to sRaidFrames using oRA2_buff, how do I get to check in my stuff (on a branch or something)? |
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| 07:02.10 | Mikma | hiflyer: svn import sRaidFrames http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/sRaidFrames/youraccount |
| 07:02.38 | Mikma | oh yeah and add -m "sRaidFrames: youraccount's initial import" or something at the end |
| 07:02.51 | ckknight | hey all |
| 07:02.54 | Mikma | hi boss |
| 07:02.55 | hiflyer | and how do I get an account? :P |
| 07:03.04 | lacindas | hiya ckk |
| 07:03.19 | Mikma | if you just wan't to commit the one single addon, don't even ask for an account :) |
| 07:03.42 | Mikma | s/addon/branch/ |
| 07:04.22 | hiflyer | well, it needs about 2 lines added to oRA2_buff as well |
| 07:05.01 | Mikma | i think you should use pastey.net and paste the url to sRaidFrames forums for that |
| 07:05.53 | lacindas | pastey.net is your friend :) |
| 07:06.15 | lacindas | it lets me post ridiculously bad code and ask for help here :) |
| 07:06.34 | hiflyer | lacindas: oh, I can do that :D |
| 07:07.29 | lacindas | bah, case-sensitive, ./smackself |
| 07:07.34 | lacindas | see? lol |
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| 07:07.52 | lacindas | bah! that wasnt it =\ |
| 07:08.53 | Mikma | hi UranusBear |
| 07:09.22 | Xuerian | <3 AceEvent. |
| 07:09.43 | ckknight | Xuerian, :-) |
| 07:10.10 | Xuerian | ^_^ |
| 07:10.41 | lacindas | ooo, im gettin there, i found 1 of the 5 spells im looking for... lol |
| 07:11.54 | lacindas | now if i can just figure out how to get the other 4 lol |
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| 07:14.09 | lacindas | are tables part of lua or ace? ./hides from the kill noob rock throwing |
| 07:14.24 | Mikma | Kemayo: http://slate.kaasu.org/epixmount.jpg |
| 07:14.26 | Xuerian | LUA |
| 07:14.49 | krka | Lua Is Not An Acronym |
| 07:15.15 | Mikma | ~lua |
| 07:15.17 | purl | from memory, lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. |
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| 07:15.26 | Xuerian | Xuerian Is Sleepy. |
| 07:15.50 | Mikma | Xuerian: Mikma is sleepy too >.< |
| 07:16.43 | Xuerian | Mikma: Sleepy as both Xuerian and Mikma may be, Xuerian is doggedly slogging through code, and idly wondering how long it will be before his eyes are too blurry to see with.... |
| 07:16.51 | Xuerian | That applied, somehow. |
| 07:17.04 | KrteK | Mikma, need a turtle mount ^^ |
| 07:17.51 | Mikma | KrteK: the original idea was to remove the mount completely and have the character to *RUN*... |
| 07:18.09 | Mikma | but it turned out to be impossible so my friend just started to find suitable mounts |
| 07:18.18 | Mikma | mechanical squirrel was funny |
| 07:18.33 | KrteK | lol |
| 07:18.38 | Mikma | ofc it wasn't rideable but he would TURN into a squirrel |
| 07:18.44 | Mikma | and run at mountspeed |
| 07:18.53 | hiflyer | sRaidFrames forums, where do I find them? ./hides under the same rock, it's getting crowded here |
| 07:19.24 | ckknight | lacindas, tables are a lua construct. |
| 07:20.31 | Xuerian | Haha Mikma, how's this being done, and do we get screenshots? :p |
| 07:20.32 | lacindas | yeah, im reading the lua table stuff now but im stumped on how to use a for statement to cycle through it |
| 07:20.45 | KrteK | hiflyer, http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1758.360 |
| 07:21.00 | Mikma | Xuerian: modelchanging, and not much screenshots exist actually :P |
| 07:21.10 | hiflyer | KrteK: thanks |
| 07:22.03 | Xuerian | Mikma: Oo... fun. |
| 07:23.13 | Laricwork | lacindas make sure you use the 'new' pairs or ipairs looping as that is what will be supported when tbc comes out |
| 07:23.36 | lacindas | oo, where would i find info on that? |
| 07:23.41 | krka | lua.org |
| 07:23.46 | Mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.50 | Laricwork | http://lua.org/pil |
| 07:23.54 | krka | TBC uses lua 5.1 which has a few small language changes |
| 07:24.05 | lacindas | ah ty |
| 07:24.08 | Xuerian | Which aren't really changes if you're just learning |
| 07:24.14 | Xuerian | Which makes it easy :P |
| 07:24.18 | krka | i prefer to do it like this though: |
| 07:24.22 | krka | for k, v in next,t do |
| 07:24.24 | Laricwork | is the select syntax available in 5.0? |
| 07:24.31 | krka | instead of for k, v in pairs(t) do |
| 07:24.43 | krka | Laricwork: not that i know |
| 07:24.59 | krka | #, %, select, ... are all new to 5.1 afaik |
| 07:25.27 | Laricwork | so it will be changes that have to be made prior to an addon to work in tbc |
| 07:25.36 | krka | yes |
| 07:25.43 | lacindas | ok, in your example, what are k and v, just generic examples? |
| 07:25.47 | Laricwork | unless you start doing shitloads of if |
| 07:25.51 | krka | also, table.setn is removed in 5.0 |
| 07:25.55 | Laricwork | if's even |
| 07:25.59 | krka | err |
| 07:25.59 | krka | 5.1 |
| 07:26.23 | Laricwork | k = the key and v = value |
| 07:26.26 | Xuerian | Key, Value. Such as: table = { 1 = "a"}, first pair is Key = 1, Value = "a" |
| 07:27.01 | Laricwork | value can for instance be a subtable |
| 07:27.37 | krka | both key and value can be any type except nil |
| 07:27.42 | ckknight | so can key ;-) |
| 07:27.43 | lacindas | ahh, ok, lemme try reworking my table and for loop |
| 07:28.32 | lacindas | can i do self.name { table stuff } then call it by name? |
| 07:29.00 | Mikma | hmm |
| 07:29.04 | lacindas | bah too many questions not enough answers on the table page argh lol |
| 07:29.08 | Mikma | i just had a lovely idea for bartender |
| 07:29.14 | Mikma | key-combination swapping! |
| 07:29.19 | CIA-11 | 03evilelvis * r12946 10eeMon/display.lua: eeMon: moved title ontop of the main frame (visually). |
| 07:29.23 | Mikma | press shift+ctrl to get bar Y |
| 07:29.29 | Mikma | and alt+ctrl to get bar Z |
| 07:31.31 | Mikma | ooooh and i got a lovely chat-addon idea too! |
| 07:31.38 | Mikma | autohide raid-chat while out of raid |
| 07:31.50 | oxman | raid-chat ? :| |
| 07:32.26 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 07:32.30 | Mikma | yeah |
| 07:32.35 | Xuerian | Mikma: maybe we should go to bed. |
| 07:32.41 | Mikma | i don't wan't my party/other chat be flooded with raid-crap |
| 07:32.43 | oxman | +1 Xuerian |
| 07:32.53 | Mikma | Xuerian: i can't i'm at school |
| 07:33.02 | Mikma | but the idea is simple |
| 07:33.03 | oxman | so stop chatting ^^ |
| 07:33.06 | Xuerian | s/bed/sleep|nap|other/ |
| 07:33.16 | Mikma | you have 1 extra chatframe which has only raidchat enabled |
| 07:33.24 | Mikma | then it gets hidden/shown depending are you in raid or not |
| 07:33.24 | Xuerian | Ohh. |
| 07:33.30 | oxman | lots of wasted space with one more chatframe Mikma. |
| 07:33.30 | Xuerian | Well that makes slightly more sense :p |
| 07:33.33 | lacindas | hows this for table and for stuff? http://ace.pastey.net/1325 |
| 07:33.56 | Mikma | oxman: why do you care assclown? i got space so why not use it! </lozareth> |
| 07:34.12 | oxman | So why you don't use ct_raidassist ? |
| 07:34.16 | oxman | you've lots of memory use it ! |
| 07:34.17 | oxman | :p |
| 07:34.23 | lacindas | lol |
| 07:34.36 | Mikma | sorry lozmode is off already |
| 07:34.45 | oxman | (ozraid author have said something like that too ;/) |
| 07:34.47 | oxman | ok :p |
| 07:34.59 | Mikma | well no wonder, ozraid is horrible |
| 07:35.04 | oxman | (my addon take 6mb ? Then i've 1024 mb) |
| 07:35.04 | oxman | xD |
| 07:35.13 | Mikma | some people here did have a look at the code and they almost puked |
| 07:35.48 | oxman | I want ozaraid author do it with ace2 :p |
| 07:35.51 | oxman | i've talk to him about that |
| 07:36.07 | Mikma | heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell no |
| 07:36.18 | Mikma | fuck him, fuck ozraid and fuck you! :) |
| 07:36.23 | lacindas | lol |
| 07:36.47 | oxman | :p |
| 07:36.48 | Laricwork | mikma I assume you mean ozraid is no good then :P |
| 07:37.15 | Mikma | Laricwork: well i have pasted it here as a joke couple of times (the url for it) and people have almost "shot me" |
| 07:37.56 | Laricwork | never had a look at it so I have no idea |
| 07:38.03 | oxman | I put a comment no ozraid : "So about ace2 and a light ozraid ?" |
| 07:38.04 | oxman | xDDD |
| 07:38.04 | Mikma | [Ammo]: here, have a look at this: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5253-1-ozraid.html |
| 07:38.26 | oxman | (on ui.worldofwar.net :p) |
| 07:38.36 | PProvost | haste, you here? |
| 07:38.55 | Mikma | PProvost: need more options for pagemaster. do them! |
| 07:39.00 | PProvost | lol |
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| 07:39.07 | PProvost | What options? |
| 07:39.10 | Mikma | hai 2 u Sairen |
| 07:39.15 | Sairen | hiho |
| 07:39.46 | Mikma | PProvost: i was thinking about option to change the bar to be used to swap, and option to ie. make all 5 bars on screen to swap with alt |
| 07:39.53 | Mikma | just like Pubcrawl has |
| 07:40.00 | Laricwork | I am gonna convert to bar2 tonight I guess.. and as few bars as possible :P |
| 07:40.05 | PProvost | Interesting idea. |
| 07:40.23 | PProvost | Pagemaster needs a rewite. That's for sure. |
| 07:40.25 | Mikma | PProvost: yeah i have had a thought about that lately and think it might be good to implement |
| 07:40.33 | Laricwork | havent looks but page master is for bar2 right that switches pages on bars? |
| 07:40.34 | PProvost | For the last week though, I've been focusing on WinAceUpdater. |
| 07:40.35 | PProvost | :D |
| 07:40.42 | PProvost | Laricwork, yeah |
| 07:40.53 | PProvost | It switches bars for Ctrl, Alt, Shift, etc. |
| 07:40.57 | PProvost | So I run w/ 1 bar only |
| 07:41.00 | Mikma | PProvost: also, like i said more keycombos would be nice, ie. "if (IsCtrlKeyDown and IsAltKeyDown) then |
| 07:41.06 | Laricwork | can you have like a button on screen to do it for you? |
| 07:41.25 | Laricwork | click the button and it will swap a page for you |
| 07:41.30 | Mikma | PProvost: using ctrl+shift+alt together will allow more swapping |
| 07:41.39 | PProvost | Laricwork, nope. That isn't what it does. |
| 07:41.45 | Laricwork | if it does then i can finally have my old ui back without using dab :P |
| 07:41.49 | PProvost | But the code for that would be simple if you wanted to write your own addon |
| 07:42.00 | PProvost | Mikma, yes. But there are only 10 pages. |
| 07:42.03 | Laricwork | I'll have a look at it :P |
| 07:42.32 | PProvost | Bartender2 does neat things when you set the page to 11. :) |
| 07:42.36 | krka | hm, ozraid didn't look _too_ bad |
| 07:42.36 | Mikma | PProvost: aye, that's why there should be alot of possible keys to be used so people can have a choice :) |
| 07:42.38 | krka | i've seen worse |
| 07:42.41 | krka | just needs more locals |
| 07:42.45 | PProvost | Mikma, yes. I agree. |
| 07:42.51 | Mikma | PProvost: oooh, what does it do with 11? :) |
| 07:43.17 | PProvost | Bar shows up, shows the keybindings for bar 1, no buttons and you can't drop anything on it. |
| 07:43.22 | PProvost | :D |
| 07:43.25 | Mikma | hehe |
| 07:43.26 | krka | can you provide a quick example of something bad in ozraid? too much to fully read through |
| 07:43.37 | Mikma | krka: source. |
| 07:43.41 | Mikma | that was quick example |
| 07:43.42 | oxman | ;) |
| 07:43.48 | PProvost | again: anyone here an oRA2 contributor? |
| 07:43.49 | oxman | not ace2 |
| 07:43.53 | oxman | one other ^^ |
| 07:43.56 | oxman | [Ammo] PProvost |
| 07:44.03 | PProvost | [Ammo], you here? |
| 07:44.12 | Mikma | he's not, he would have shot me already |
| 07:44.16 | PProvost | lol |
| 07:44.27 | krka | well, what's an actual problem with it? |
| 07:44.32 | krka | don't just say "it's bad" |
| 07:44.41 | oxman | 6MB of usage |
| 07:44.42 | oxman | its bad. |
| 07:44.47 | PProvost | Alright. I'm done here for tonight. Adios all. |
| 07:44.54 | oxman | good night PProvost |
| 07:44.57 | Mikma | tha thaa PProvost |
| 07:45.00 | KrteK | Bye PProvost |
| 07:45.52 | krka | memory usage in itself doesn't correlate to code quality |
| 07:46.06 | ckknight | they're related, though |
| 07:46.17 | ckknight | non-orthogonal, at least |
| 07:47.40 | krka | i say it's orthogonal |
| 07:48.16 | oxman | look his addon krka |
| 07:48.17 | Laricwork | a stable high memory usage is better than a small start and ever increasing one :P |
| 07:48.23 | oxman | it don't need at all 6MB to do his stuff. |
| 07:48.38 | oxman | some addon need 6MB, and some of them are very well coded. |
| 07:48.40 | oxman | but not ozraid. |
| 07:48.45 | oxman | It don't need 6MB at all. |
| 07:50.20 | krka | sure, the code is very much imperative instead of functional and/or oo |
| 07:50.35 | krka | maybe he's sacricing memory for speed though |
| 07:50.43 | krka | could be a conscious decision |
| 07:51.15 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo 07Kemayo * r12947 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames (Kemayo): Hide portraits of non-visible units. (Okay, it's trying to replace them with the question mark model. But that doesn't work yet, so it's just hiding them.) |
| 07:51.31 | oxman | ah ah krka |
| 07:51.35 | oxman | you must use ozraid =') |
| 07:51.41 | krka | his merge-sort looks good, except it always uses a global table instead of passing it as a parameter |
| 07:51.51 | oxman | its not more fast than perfectraid |
| 07:51.51 | oxman | :) |
| 07:51.53 | krka | (which seems to be common practice in the code) |
| 07:52.05 | krka | nope, never even heard of it before |
| 07:52.11 | phyber | morning. |
| 07:52.17 | oxman | evening. |
| 07:52.41 | oxman | Mikma ? |
| 07:54.28 | CIA-11 | 03pprovost * r12948 10oRA2/Optional/ (PlayerTarget.lua Styles.lua): |
| 07:54.28 | CIA-11 | oRA2: |
| 07:54.28 | CIA-11 | - Added a space to PlayerTarget.lua and Styles.lua to make them not zero length files. |
| 07:54.40 | Mikma | oxman: yes? |
| 07:54.49 | oxman | what about ep_besttarget ? |
| 07:55.11 | Mikma | haven't tried |
| 07:55.21 | Mikma | have not been that lazy for a while since i got my T2 shoulders ;D |
| 07:55.28 | oxman | :B |
| 07:56.03 | thecookie | You lua nazi krka! |
| 07:58.45 | krka | :( |
| 08:00.05 | Kemayo | Mikma: Let me know whether that seems to work. |
| 08:01.25 | Mikma | Kemayo: will do, in... 4h :D |
| 08:01.37 | Mikma | Kemayo: and i got a buttload of betatesters for it already hehe |
| 08:01.56 | Mikma | my wife loves aguf and portraits and my friends like aguf and portraits too |
| 08:02.31 | oxman | lol |
| 08:04.02 | Kemayo | If there aren't any problems, I'll start the work of persuading ag that the patch is acceptable. :-D |
| 08:04.14 | oxman | :p |
| 08:05.27 | Mikma | and i just got accepted to school :D |
| 08:05.35 | Xuerian | Grats :P |
| 08:05.37 | Mikma | and now i have to do 4 tests in this school at this week |
| 08:05.44 | Mikma | internet & email |
| 08:05.49 | Mikma | basics of computer |
| 08:05.55 | Mikma | theory |
| 08:05.58 | Mikma | and PowerPoint |
| 08:06.08 | Gngsk | don't forget pr0n |
| 08:06.10 | Mikma | normal schedule for those would be 2 months |
| 08:06.32 | Gngsk | you'd ace that test, right mikma? |
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| 08:09.01 | evl | anyone heard any ETA on BC? |
| 08:09.06 | evl | Someone saying 30 November |
| 08:09.15 | oxman | 22 Novembre |
| 08:09.23 | Mikma | Gngsk: yeah, sure :D |
| 08:09.26 | oxman | Like the release in USA. |
| 08:10.49 | [FH]Birdemani | agUF can show your targets target? I cant get that frame to appear for some reason |
| 08:10.57 | oxman | yep it show |
| 08:11.52 | [FH]Birdemani | grr, cant get it to show |
| 08:12.20 | oxman | you can see it if you're the target |
| 08:12.56 | [FH]Birdemani | ive selected myself, have my self frame, target frame |
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| 08:13.05 | [FH]Birdemani | but I cant see the ToT for some reason |
| 08:15.32 | Sairen | [FH]Birdemani: select someone different. It's hidden when you select yourself |
| 08:15.39 | [FH]Birdemani | did that too |
| 08:15.41 | Sairen | mh |
| 08:16.39 | nevcairiel | i always wonderd why its hidden when you select yourself, for testing thats weird :D |
| 08:16.59 | Laricwork | are all the addons to bartender compatible with each other? like the circled buttons is compatible with the pagemaster? |
| 08:17.11 | oxman | yep Laricwork |
| 08:17.14 | Mikma | Laricwork: yes, i use them both atm |
| 08:17.15 | Laricwork | nice |
| 08:17.23 | nevcairiel | circled doesnt work with dreamlayout |
| 08:17.23 | Grey|away | druid bar isnt compatible with pagemaster |
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| 08:17.39 | Laricwork | what is deamlayout anyhow? couldnt find a desc for it |
| 08:17.45 | oxman | nevcairiel .. its a layout too :| |
| 08:17.47 | Mikma | Grey|away: well yeah true, but pagemaster has it in now |
| 08:18.00 | [FH]Birdemani | odd, found it, it was hidden up out of the top of my screen. set scale and width to full to find it |
| 08:18.04 | Galencia | Mikma: xad was giving some interesting errors last night :) |
| 08:18.12 | Mikma | Galencia: 'buttons' ? |
| 08:18.19 | Grey|away | XAD has never worked for me |
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| 08:18.28 | Galencia | Mikma: nah fixed that with the url you gave me |
| 08:18.37 | Galencia | then it spammed me occasionally with some error about a timer already existing |
| 08:18.38 | Mikma | Galencia: /poke the author on forums :) |
| 08:18.47 | lacindas | whats the xad error? |
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| 08:18.59 | Mikma | Galencia: didn't spam Compost-2.0 errors? :) i get them all the time |
| 08:18.59 | lacindas | the nil button one? or a diff one |
| 08:19.00 | Galencia | mmm something like "timer XAD_ already exists" |
| 08:19.17 | lacindas | oop, i hvaent seen that one, sry =\ |
| 08:19.22 | Galencia | Mikma: no, but bartender spams me with that :) |
| 08:19.40 | Mikma | Galencia: well bartender doesn't even have compost in the maincore ;) |
| 08:19.50 | Mikma | oh wait |
| 08:19.57 | Mikma | haha someone has put it in :D |
| 08:20.02 | Galencia | :) |
| 08:20.11 | steino | "someone" |
| 08:20.16 | Mikma | not me |
| 08:20.17 | lacindas | mikma: lol |
| 08:20.19 | phyber | "hackers" |
| 08:20.25 | Mikma | it's not even used in bt2 |
| 08:20.43 | Mikma | phyber: nevcairiel / PProvost / vhaarr :) |
| 08:20.54 | steino | the hack squad! |
| 08:21.04 | Mikma | the 3 prime evils |
| 08:21.16 | steino | hacking compost into innocent addons |
| 08:21.19 | Mikma | i mean wtf compost ain't even used in bt2 :D |
| 08:21.25 | steino | phear! phear! |
| 08:21.37 | Galencia | wheres the best place to post about it? ace2 developers centre? |
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| 08:22.14 | Mikma | Galencia: XAD error? on Ace2 forums in XAD thread |
| 08:22.24 | phyber | for some reason "Ace2 developers centre" reminded me of "Jurrasic Park Visitors Centre". Could see people running around.. "save the addons, protect the SVN!" |
| 08:22.24 | Elkano | althouh it's not my post, anyone else able to reproduce this bug? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=29927848&sid=1 |
| 08:22.48 | Galencia | gotcha |
| 08:23.25 | Mikma | nevcairiel: any ideas why Compost is in BT2 core since it's not used? :) AceModuleCore has it Optional |
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| 08:23.30 | phyber | Elkano: I've had that 'color' bug a few times after 1.12.1, but it;'s stopped now. |
| 08:23.50 | phyber | I had switched to SimpleCombatLog at the same time |
| 08:23.59 | phyber | I just toggled some colour options and it went. |
| 08:24.06 | Mikma | Galencia: ok... i myself do get FuBar Compost-2.0 errors with XAD, not Bartender2 :D |
| 08:24.09 | phyber | (from what i remember) |
| 08:24.13 | lacindas | when using i,v in ipairs, is i auto-incremented or do i use i = i+1? |
| 08:24.36 | Galencia | Mikma: any idea what they are? :) |
| 08:24.43 | krka | neither |
| 08:24.43 | oxman | i is the index |
| 08:24.47 | krka | but the first one is closest |
| 08:24.51 | Galencia | its like "something had reclaimed tables used by compost" or something |
| 08:24.51 | oxman | in an array its already i = i+1 |
| 08:24.57 | Mikma | Galencia: well they happen to me only with XAD |
| 08:25.01 | oxman | in a hash table its the key value |
| 08:25.18 | Mikma | so i'm guessing it's XAD using compost wrong |
| 08:25.34 | lacindas | alright, im doing something wrong, i can get the 1st spell returned but thats all |
| 08:25.34 | nevcairiel | Mikma: well, guess because it was optional :) |
| 08:26.05 | Mikma | nevcairiel: don't hurt propably since it's optional.. AceModuleCore likes to use it if it's found :D |
| 08:26.44 | Mikma | FuBar\libs\Compost-2.0\Compost-2.0.lua:68: Someone is modifying tables reclaimed by Compost! |
| 08:26.56 | CIA-11 | 03xuerian * r12949 10XLoot/ (5 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 08:26.56 | CIA-11 | XLoot: Way too fucking many updates, way too fucking late to list them. Major thingies of minor interesties: |
| 08:26.56 | CIA-11 | Made dewdrop menu comprehendable. Translators, say hello to a few new strings. |
| 08:26.56 | CIA-11 | Modularity! Wee! |
| 08:26.56 | CIA-11 | Optimization. Broke down some functions. |
| 08:26.57 | CIA-11 | Loot texture border quality coloring. A mouthful and eyeful. |
| 08:26.58 | Mikma | i get that error with XAD and i bet Galencia gets the same error |
| 08:27.01 | CIA-11 | Externals update. |
| 08:27.22 | Galencia | Mikma: thats the one |
| 08:27.34 | Galencia | only i get mine from Bartender2/libs/compost-2.0 |
| 08:27.59 | Mikma | i get it when i use something.. after 5sec or so i get the error |
| 08:28.11 | Galencia | i havent really noticed a pattern |
| 08:28.19 | Galencia | but now that you mention it i guess it could be that |
| 08:28.21 | Mikma | well sometimes it seems to be random |
| 08:28.40 | Mikma | i have no idea what's going on and why it's doing that but it's preventing me from using XAD |
| 08:28.51 | Mikma | dinnertime |
| 08:29.45 | lacindas | success! ./cheer |
| 08:29.45 | Galencia | oh yeah xad kinda explodes if you try to apply oil to an offhand that is actually an off hand rather than a weapon, too :) |
| 08:30.15 | CIA-11 | 03xuerian * r12950 10/trunk/ (XLootMonitor.lua XLootMonitor.toc localization.enUS.lua): XLootMonitor: Initial Import, f33r sleepy commits |
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| 08:31.06 | Greywind | what, pray tell is is XLootMonitor? |
| 08:31.25 | Xuerian | Ehm, think BattleChat for solo/party/raid loot |
| 08:31.29 | Xuerian | while I um, clean up my mess |
| 08:31.40 | steino | oO |
| 08:32.09 | Elkano | commited to trunk? ;) |
| 08:32.37 | Xuerian | Feel free to help out the sleepy guy who is being baffled by tort >< |
| 08:33.02 | Xuerian | For reference, mess referenced trunk commit |
| 08:34.47 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r12951 10/trunk/ (XLootMonitor.lua XLootMonitor.toc localization.enUS.lua): cleaning up Xuerian's mess |
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| 08:35.13 | Xuerian | weee |
| 08:35.19 | Xuerian | just as I click the button XD thanky |
| 08:35.23 | Elkano | <3 repo browser ^^ |
| 08:35.31 | Xuerian | Try loading it on dialup =( |
| 08:35.38 | Greywind | >.< |
| 08:35.47 | Xuerian | ANYWAY |
| 08:36.44 | CIA-11 | 03xuerian * r12952 10XLootMonitor/ (. XLootMonitor.lua XLootMonitor.toc localization.enUS.lua): XLootMonitor: Initial Import, f33r sleepy commits. v2. |
| 08:37.06 | Elkano | btw: Greyhoof isn't on IRC, is he? |
| 08:37.23 | Xuerian | dun lookit |
| 08:37.35 | Elkano | ~seen grayhoof |
| 08:37.56 | purl | Elkano: i haven't seen 'grayhoof' |
| 08:37.56 | DarkImakuni | why oh why is my villiage the only place in England without broadband? :'( |
| 08:38.00 | nevcairiel | someone get the servers back, need to test some drygood :p |
| 08:38.15 | lacindas | anyone have an idea why the 3rd self:Debug isnt printing out? http://ace.pastey.net/1326 |
| 08:38.16 | nevcairiel | s/drygood/drycode/ |
| 08:38.18 | nevcairiel | oO |
| 08:39.04 | nevcairiel | lacindas: you return before that |
| 08:39.37 | lacindas | ahh, ok, omg thats why i was getting the "end" error like 2 hrs ago =X lol |
| 08:39.51 | lacindas | remind me not to try to learn this stuff at 5am ;) |
| 08:39.53 | nevcairiel | btw you dont need a format string for debug, it will add remaining arguments to the string without those %s :) |
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| 08:40.35 | lacindas | so use self:Debug("Spell Data", spellid, spellname, BS:GetSpellIcon(spellname)) ? |
| 08:40.55 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 08:41.00 | lacindas | sweet ty |
| 08:41.01 | nevcairiel | saves some trouble |
| 08:41.02 | Xuerian | Yeah, and XLMonitor doesn't need a second commit, thus initial = functional-ish-minus-options-or-placement-or-other-fun-stuff.... bed time z.z |
| 08:41.13 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 08:41.41 | Xuerian | 'night everyone, thanks Elkano :P |
| 08:41.44 | nevcairiel | nite |
| 08:42.07 | lacindas | night man, ty for the help |
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| 08:43.39 | Galencia | Mikma: ah nice, he already knows about both errors :) |
| 08:51.37 | nevcairiel | lol Mikma your latest reply in the bartender thread |
| 08:52.35 | lacindas | hahaha finally, got all my data returned for all the spells in my table, thank you all for all the help :D |
| 08:59.05 | Mikma | nevcairiel: :D |
| 08:59.35 | Mikma | nevcairiel: i got pretty pissed about it this morning, i was so tired and saw that so i had to be mean for once |
| 09:01.45 | Mikma | and the funniest thing is i have got 1 applaud after that post too |
| 09:02.12 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:02.45 | lacindas | <-- applauded you |
| 09:02.52 | Mikma | oh thank you :D |
| 09:03.08 | lacindas | i had too, that cracked me up lol |
| 09:03.49 | Mikma | the lesson of the day. post only when you're tired |
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| 09:04.16 | lacindas | hehe my lesson of the day is dont learn to code when youre tired ;) |
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| 09:04.23 | Mikma | leech2k: Oh I like that Baby. I put on my robe and wizard hat. |
| 09:04.36 | Mikma | lacindas: i did read tired=fired when you said that |
| 09:04.40 | deci | thats pretty hot |
| 09:04.44 | Mikma | leech2k: mt -> lacindas Oh I like that Baby. I put on my robe and wizard hat. |
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| 09:05.48 | lacindas | lol i think |
| 09:05.48 | lacindas | hehe |
| 09:05.48 | Mikma | azix.. that reminds me... |
| 09:05.48 | lacindas | afk a cpl |
| 09:05.49 | Azix | ;o |
| 09:05.49 | krka | lol |
| 09:06.16 | Mikma | Azix: http://youtube.com/watch?v=020aWPVpKvM |
| 09:06.17 | krka | still wondering lacindas or did you figure it out yourself? |
| 09:06.28 | Mikma | not exactly "Azix" but close |
| 09:06.55 | Azix | you know my mother always told me not to click on links from strangers in irc! |
| 09:07.28 | Machine__ | gotta love the performance you get tunneling svn over ssh (not svn+ssh:// but svn:// portforwarded) |
| 09:07.29 | Azix | but then i sent her to lemonparty and she's been in an asylum since, and i try not to think about her |
| 09:07.53 | Machine__ | hm, there seem to be many of me in here, brb |
| 09:08.07 | Machine_ | now there's only one of me |
| 09:09.13 | Mikma | Azix: did ya look at the video? you need sounds btw :D |
| 09:09.24 | Azix | haha yeah |
| 09:09.24 | Mikma | Azix: everytime i see you i remember that video :) |
| 09:09.35 | Azix | it's my secret identity :( |
| 09:09.43 | Azix | lahalaalalaahlahlh washington! |
| 09:09.50 | Greywind | lol |
| 09:09.56 | Mikma | hehee |
| 09:12.19 | nevcairiel | already 11:12 and realsm still down |
| 09:12.51 | Azix | by thankful you don't have 36 hour maintenance ;) |
| 09:12.55 | Azix | be* |
| 09:13.02 | KrteK | nevcairiel, my real is down since tomorrow 12:01 :( |
| 09:13.12 | KrteK | s/real/realm |
| 09:13.25 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:13.34 | nevcairiel | our hardwareupgrade only took like 24h |
| 09:13.49 | oxman | really ? |
| 09:13.54 | oxman | and you have 100 clusters ? |
| 09:13.59 | oxman | 1000 clusters ? |
| 09:14.12 | nevcairiel | i mean for my server, stupid frenchy :p |
| 09:14.21 | oxman | so why you do that ? |
| 09:14.26 | oxman | "only 24h" |
| 09:14.35 | oxman | like "blizzard is bad, it take longer" |
| 09:15.13 | nevcairiel | again, stupid frenchy, the realm i play on was backup after 24h, its only now that blizzard actually schedules 36h |
| 09:15.24 | oxman | then ? |
| 09:16.01 | oxman | you need more than one week to upgrade 100 clusters or more. |
| 09:16.04 | Mikma | http://youtube.com/watch?v=fBiSw6YgQS8 |
| 09:16.06 | oxman | and here its 36h |
| 09:16.08 | oxman | whats the problem ? |
| 09:16.40 | Mikma | haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-wvYnkWoTw |
| 09:19.36 | Azix | rofl Mikma |
| 09:20.34 | Mikma | Azix: part2!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=_smaiZ1qKjM |
| 09:20.54 | Azix | woo Aziz |
| 09:22.22 | Mikma | lol there seems to be alot of them |
| 09:22.43 | oxman | lots of english/deutsch servers are up |
| 09:23.25 | Azix | yeah my exploits are numerous ;] |
| 09:25.19 | oxman | maybe i'm rank 6 xD |
| 09:26.18 | Neebler | http://youtube.com/watch?v=K8hfK3RQs2g |
| 09:27.36 | lacindas | krka: figured it out :) |
| 09:29.47 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel * r12953 10Bartender2_Dreamlayout/Dreamlayout.lua: Bartender2_Dreamlayout: you can now toggle the dreamlayout per bar, but needs a reloadui to enable/disable after toggle. |
| 09:30.13 | nevcairiel | yay for me, now i can use circled together with dreamlayout |
| 09:31.19 | KrteK | Neebler," They should've have just based the story on the mother's bad parenting and on how she keeps paying for his subscription instead of buying him a new do " |
| 09:31.27 | KrteK | lol |
| 09:32.08 | Mikma | nevcairiel: why does it require reloadui? :P why is there a toggle? |
| 09:32.19 | nevcairiel | he plays 16 hours a day and only has paladin tier0 ?:) |
| 09:32.47 | lacindas | lol nev |
| 09:32.53 | Greywind | yeah i saw that, i play like 8 hours a week and have better gear than that |
| 09:33.07 | Greywind | quite sad actually |
| 09:33.37 | Azix | best part was him claiming someone stole his kill; he's a paladin for crying out loud |
| 09:33.41 | nevcairiel | Mikma: so i can turn it off for bar4 and enable circled on that bar, and it needs a reload because it doesnt create the frames if its disabled, and doesnt remove the frames when it gets diabled |
| 09:34.22 | Neebler | bwahaaw. I love the quote at 3:00 into this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=DJrdm-zr8l0&mode=related&search= |
| 09:34.51 | Neebler | what a prick |
| 09:35.15 | Mikma | nevcairiel: well just make it set the alpha to 0 :D |
| 09:35.28 | Mikma | nevcairiel: that should take care of it until the "reloadui" hehe |
| 09:35.47 | nevcairiel | dreamlayout changes the position of the buttons as well, would look funny with circled |
| 09:36.44 | Mikma | nevcairiel: well make it change them back :D |
| 09:36.44 | nevcairiel | the mother of that guy is funny, just cut his internet line for crying out loud |
| 09:36.56 | nevcairiel | was too lazy, maybe sometime |
| 09:37.03 | krka | zomg i play less but have better gear, i am cooler! |
| 09:37.15 | krka | if you play long and have crappy gear, you must be a loser!!! |
| 09:37.23 | Greywind | yes i agree :P |
| 09:37.27 | steino | totally |
| 09:37.31 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 09:37.41 | Neebler | I concur |
| 09:37.54 | Mikma | nevcairiel: yeah it's propably very easy to do. i'll have a look at it too when i get home |
| 09:38.07 | Neebler | or maybe he was on his 4th alt |
| 09:38.10 | Neebler | like me :| |
| 09:38.17 | Mikma | my plans was to make Dreamlayout toggleable on and off |
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| 09:38.20 | Greywind | only your 4th? |
| 09:38.21 | steino | I am on my 3rd alt! |
| 09:38.27 | steino | :< |
| 09:38.35 | nevcairiel | i never managed to get an alt up to 60 |
| 09:38.36 | Greywind | i think im on my 5th or 7th |
| 09:38.39 | steino | then again.. all my chars is better geared |
| 09:38.39 | [FH]Birdemani | http://tinyurl.com/jgqd5 My newest UI, been working on it all night |
| 09:38.43 | steino | : |
| 09:38.44 | nevcairiel | but i am raiding 5 days a week with my main |
| 09:38.47 | Neebler | I play my rogue too much to level other alts. |
| 09:39.13 | Neebler | but when I dedicate myself to one. they reach 60 and get at least tier 1 |
| 09:39.17 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: so you wasted your night :( |
| 09:39.22 | Neebler | I think they'll all get neglected when the expansion comes out |
| 09:39.31 | [FH]Birdemani | Mikma: why say that?? |
| 09:39.40 | nevcairiel | i started on release day with my druid, and still the only char i really play. |
| 09:39.46 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: just to see your reaction D: |
| 09:39.51 | [FH]Birdemani | :( |
| 09:40.05 | [FH]Birdemani | heh, was bored after the raid and was tired of nurfed UF |
| 09:40.06 | steino | i started on release day with my shaman, and to date its the only char of mine that isnt 60 |
| 09:40.11 | steino | :P |
| 09:40.16 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:40.18 | Greywind | heh |
| 09:40.25 | Greywind | same with my hunter |
| 09:40.32 | steino | ! |
| 09:40.34 | Greywind | he has stayed at 26 |
| 09:40.36 | nevcairiel | highest alt i managed is my warlock, 56 :/ |
| 09:40.36 | steino | my farming alt is a hunter |
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| 09:41.13 | steino | then again, i raid just as much on my alt as my main |
| 09:41.14 | steino | :o |
| 09:41.27 | Greywind | same, i raid on my warlock and my druid |
| 09:41.29 | nevcairiel | i couldnt do that, would need some more days in the week. |
| 09:41.32 | steino | bwl -> aq40(twins) = alt c'thun -> naxx = main |
| 09:41.58 | Neebler | what should I change about my UI? http://neebler.tetro.net/ui.jpg |
| 09:42.02 | nevcairiel | raiding 5 days a week with my main, 4 days naxx and one aq40, no time :/ |
| 09:42.07 | steino | :o |
| 09:42.18 | steino | my main and my alt is in the same guild so :p |
| 09:42.22 | steino | easy to flex |
| 09:42.22 | Greywind | well for one thing its purple :P |
| 09:42.28 | nevcairiel | Neebler: get rid of the pinkish :p |
| 09:42.31 | Neebler | lavender!! |
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| 09:42.49 | steino | its pink |
| 09:42.51 | steino | ! |
| 09:43.20 | [FH]Birdemani | wow need when you told me in raid the other day you customized, didnt know it was pink |
| 09:43.43 | Neebler | omg it's purple not pink |
| 09:43.43 | [FH]Birdemani | what is that combatlog type mod on the side of the pics? |
| 09:43.54 | Neebler | hitsmode. I've replaced it now with simple combatlog |
| 09:43.59 | oxman | 210kph :) |
| 09:44.01 | Neebler | old screenshot |
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| 09:45.16 | [FH]Birdemani | Im still using nurfed AB, nurfed combat. but I like yours neebler |
| 09:45.21 | [FH]Birdemani | you should post it on our forums |
| 09:45.40 | nevcairiel | SCL is really much better then nurfed CL |
| 09:45.55 | [FH]Birdemani | I'd move to it if I knew why it was better |
| 09:46.06 | Neebler | I don't have access yet. still a trial |
| 09:46.23 | nevcairiel | Just try it and you will know :) |
| 09:46.23 | [FH]Birdemani | our UI forum isnt in the guild section |
| 09:46.32 | Neebler | oh dur |
| 09:46.41 | phyber | any of you guys maintain an Asterisk server? |
| 09:47.06 | Neebler | SCL isn't picking up DoT's done to me from hostile npc's or players |
| 09:47.38 | nevcairiel | hm works for me, i think |
| 09:48.27 | deci | whose branch has the portraits added to ag_uf |
| 09:48.41 | Greywind | kemeyo |
| 09:48.49 | [FH]Birdemani | I think I am done with portraits, im liking ag without them |
| 09:48.50 | deci | danke |
| 09:49.06 | steino | portraits is only eye-candy :o |
| 09:49.17 | [FH]Birdemani | in trunk is there any other ag plugins? |
| 09:49.29 | lacindas | ok, ive tasked my brain on code enough for 1 night, sleep time for me, night all, cyaz 2morrow |
| 09:49.51 | Greywind | cya mate |
| 09:51.43 | [FH]Birdemani | neebler, how do you have fubar in two sections on the bottom like that? |
| 09:52.10 | Neebler | its one fubar. seperated plugins left and right |
| 09:52.44 | [FH]Birdemani | and that break? |
| 09:53.09 | Neebler | the backdrops is discord art |
| 09:53.13 | nevcairiel | prolly a transparent fubar with another texture below it |
| 09:53.47 | Neebler | I want to get rid of discord art entirely. I just need an addon that makes simple customizeable backdrops like those |
| 09:53.56 | Neebler | Oskin does it currently. but they're pre-set |
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| 09:55.11 | [FH]Birdemani | k, im staying away from all discord, and not sure i like oskin yet |
| 09:55.22 | [FH]Birdemani | will just try out the fubar textures I saw on svn |
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| 09:55.55 | CIA-11 | 03krtek * r12954 10Prat_History/ (. Prat_History.lua Prat_History.toc): Prat_History : let you choose how many lines are kept in chat window's history (initial import) |
| 09:57.03 | CIA-11 | 03krtek * r12955 10Prat_Keybindings/ (. Bindings.xml Prat_Keybindings.lua Prat_Keybindings.toc): Prat_Keybindings : Add bindings to channels (initial import) |
| 09:58.41 | CIA-11 | 03krtek * r12956 10Prat_ChannelsSeparator/ (. Prat_ChannelsSeparator.lua Prat_ChannelsSeparator.toc): Prat_ChannelsSepartor : Officer, Raid and Battleground channels can now have own chatFrame (initial import) |
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| 10:02.55 | CIA-11 | 03darkimakuni * r12957 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: |
| 10:02.55 | CIA-11 | FuBar_ToFu |
| 10:02.55 | CIA-11 | - Changed the way flight prices are shown in the tooltip |
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| 10:03.32 | DarkImakuni | wow krtek... nice one 8) |
| 10:03.34 | Nickenyfiken | FuBar_PursueFu hmm |
| 10:04.16 | CIA-11 | 03gamefaq * r12958 10PerfectRaid/Localization.deDE.lua: PerfectRaid - Updated deDE Translation |
| 10:04.22 | KrteK | DarkImakuni, write these this mornings, and waiting for EU servers to test a little ^^ |
| 10:04.40 | DarkImakuni | hehe :) |
| 10:04.51 | Mikma | KrteK: *applaud* |
| 10:05.05 | oxman | eu servers are on |
| 10:05.35 | KrteK | oxman, french one not *cry* ^^ |
| 10:05.47 | KrteK | (playing on Kirin Tor) |
| 10:05.50 | oxman | my french is up |
| 10:05.50 | oxman | :) |
| 10:05.52 | oxman | ysondre |
| 10:05.52 | oxman | :p |
| 10:05.59 | KrteK | nerf ^^ |
| 10:06.10 | KrteK | I've to wait until tomorrow noon |
| 10:06.12 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r12959 10FuBar_DuraTek/Libs/: |
| 10:06.12 | CIA-11 | DuraTek: |
| 10:06.13 | CIA-11 | - Removed unnessessary Metrognome external. |
| 10:06.30 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r12960 10FuBar_DuraTek/FuBar_DuraTek.toc: |
| 10:06.30 | CIA-11 | DuraTek: |
| 10:06.30 | CIA-11 | - Bah, forgot the TOC. |
| 10:06.46 | Mikma | KrteK: now, write the raid-chat -module i wanted earlier too ;) |
| 10:06.48 | Gamefaq|afk | did we have a roll back some revisions? |
| 10:06.52 | Mikma | KrteK: "show raidchat only in raid" |
| 10:07.00 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r12961 10FuBar_MoneyFu/FuBar_MoneyFu.toc: |
| 10:07.00 | CIA-11 | Moneyfu: |
| 10:07.00 | CIA-11 | - Remove Metrognome from the TOC here too. |
| 10:07.26 | DarkImakuni | is Metrognome being depreciated? |
| 10:07.37 | Mikma | depends on the situation |
| 10:07.44 | phyber | no, I just didn't need it in MoneyFu. and I have no idea why it was in DuraTek :p |
| 10:07.46 | Mikma | AceSchedule can do pretty much the same |
| 10:07.52 | KrteK | Mikma, I don't think it's to difficult... I'll give a look :D |
| 10:08.04 | DarkImakuni | would AceSchedule benefit ToFu? |
| 10:08.24 | phyber | personally, I'm doing the following: If I have Metro and AceEvent loaded, I'm dropping Metro because AceEvent has timing code. If I don't have AceEvent, I'm using Metro. |
| 10:08.32 | Mikma | KrteK: i had a dream today that i split raidwarning and raidchat into separate chatframe and then have addon to show/hide the defined chat when joining raid and leaving raid :D |
| 10:08.36 | phyber | no point having 2x the timing code loaded. |
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| 10:08.52 | Mikma | KrteK: that would clear up alot of my chats since i have all in one atm and i dislike the raidspam |
| 10:09.17 | add\\Leialyn | humn, is rabbit sometimes here in this channel or even on FreeNode? :o |
| 10:09.22 | DarkImakuni | ToFu uses AceEvent and Metro, so perhaps it would be best if I converted to AceSchedule... I wonder what Kemayo would do... |
| 10:09.37 | Mikma | KrteK: well either hide it or dock it to chats / show it or undock from chats :) |
| 10:09.40 | DarkImakuni | rabbit = vhaarr I think |
| 10:09.57 | Mikma | by using the dock/undock there would be a way to configure the chatframe even without raid |
| 10:10.29 | Mikma | propably easy to do if it would just find a certain name of chat, and have people rename the window to PratRaid or so |
| 10:10.31 | add\\Leialyn | So vhaarr, are you there? :p |
| 10:10.43 | Mikma | anyway, just my 2 silvers |
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| 10:11.19 | KrteK | Mikma, I don't know if you can access to chatFrame by name... |
| 10:11.39 | Mikma | KrteK: yeah you can actually, i have done it *once* but deleted the code |
| 10:11.42 | nevcairiel | hey wob |
| 10:11.48 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r12962 10GCInfo/Libs/: |
| 10:11.48 | CIA-11 | GCInfo: |
| 10:11.48 | CIA-11 | - Fixed svn:externals paths. |
| 10:11.50 | Wobin | hullo |
| 10:11.57 | Laricwork | hmm is hunterbars working together with pagemaster? |
| 10:12.04 | Mikma | Laricwork: propably not. |
| 10:12.06 | DarkImakuni | morning Wobin :) |
| 10:12.14 | Laricwork | hi wobin |
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| 10:12.26 | Mikma | KrteK: http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Chat_Window_Functions :) |
| 10:12.29 | deci | can i ask a favor? can some zip kemayos branch and send it to me, my checkout isnt working or something |
| 10:12.31 | deci | :( |
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| 10:12.35 | KrteK | Mikma, added RaidChat to the planned modules on the wiki :D |
| 10:12.47 | Mikma | KrteK: oh neat :) |
| 10:13.03 | Laricwork | for Prat? |
| 10:13.03 | Mikma | KrteK: and i do hope that Thrae the bastard manages to fix svnbot's !toc soon |
| 10:13.38 | KrteK | Laricwork, yes |
| 10:13.59 | KrteK | Mikma, lol ^^ |
| 10:14.26 | *** join/#wowace Royal (n=m@cp291458-a.landg1.lb.home.nl) |
| 10:14.28 | Laricwork | I guess I am gonna try and write a simple prat module.. as I am master looter I want to know in what raidgroup the person who said I want it is in :P |
| 10:15.00 | nevcairiel | use a masterloot addon with sorting by class |
| 10:15.10 | SH|Shabador | Laricwork, use ClassMasterLoot and Teknicolor |
| 10:15.13 | Mikma | nevcairiel: <3 .. i just deleted it yesterday :) |
| 10:15.31 | Mikma | i'm not masterlooter anymore in instances so i don't need it |
| 10:15.40 | Mikma | but ClassMasterLoot is nifty |
| 10:15.46 | SH|Shabador | I am, so it's a blessing. :) |
| 10:15.50 | nevcairiel | im an only on our BWL PuG once a week |
| 10:15.57 | Mikma | freaking easy to use and simple, working idea |
| 10:16.07 | Mikma | also! i just LOVED the "loot self" feature <3 |
| 10:16.07 | nevcairiel | but the roll module in classmasterloot is broken |
| 10:16.13 | Mikma | nevcairiel: it's not :) |
| 10:16.19 | nevcairiel | didnt work for me |
| 10:16.23 | nevcairiel | never displayed rolls |
| 10:16.33 | Mikma | nevcairiel: it just requires you to use the /cml roll etc so it would start to record the rolls |
| 10:16.40 | nevcairiel | bah |
| 10:16.54 | Mikma | i tested it with 1.11 and it worked but DID require for slashcommand to be used |
| 10:16.54 | Laricwork | classmasterloot.. hmm gonna have a look for that :P |
| 10:17.05 | Mikma | classmasterlooter ace2 would rock :P |
| 10:17.16 | Mikma | with BETTER features like the rollcatching etc |
| 10:17.32 | Nickenyfiken | *logging in* *holding my thumbs for a new pvp-rank* |
| 10:17.43 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: check it from www-pages? :) |
| 10:17.52 | [FH]Birdemani | is there any way to show Raid Group Number with agUF? |
| 10:18.02 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: don't think so |
| 10:18.05 | nevcairiel | the page updates slower then the ingame info on mainteance day |
| 10:18.06 | Laricwork | classmasterloot is an ace addon or 'regular' ? |
| 10:18.10 | Mikma | regular |
| 10:18.11 | nevcairiel | regular |
| 10:18.27 | Nickenyfiken | Mikma: naa the stupid rank page never update fast... atleast last time i checked |
| 10:18.28 | KrteK | [FH]Birdemani, there's a simple patch on the thread to add a [raidgroup] |
| 10:18.45 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: the times i have used it it has been updated before the servers were up |
| 10:19.06 | Nickenyfiken | ok |
| 10:19.13 | Nickenyfiken | damn i went back 5% lol |
| 10:19.35 | Nickenyfiken | stupid pvp ranks !#"¤% i hate BGs :-P |
| 10:19.53 | Mikma | i wanna get rank13 with druid |
| 10:20.00 | Mikma | the set is sooooooooooooooooo freaking cool |
| 10:20.04 | Mikma | i like the way it looks |
| 10:20.14 | Mikma | atleast on male-nelfs |
| 10:20.21 | Mikma | aziz :P |
| 10:20.45 | Nickenyfiken | hehe im only stone guard (r6) |
| 10:20.54 | Nickenyfiken | and i hate my stupid shaman |
| 10:20.55 | KrteK | [FH]Birdemani, http://pastey.net/1327 for raidgroup |
| 10:21.23 | KrteK | [FH]Birdemani, add it just after line 337 |
| 10:21.56 | KrteK | [FH]Birdemani, in ag_UnitFrames.lua (sorry for spam ^^) |
| 10:22.00 | Mikma | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/events/harvestfestival/ |
| 10:22.12 | Mikma | can someone explain to me what the fuck is the idea of that book |
| 10:22.37 | Laricwork | what does teknicolor do? |
| 10:22.51 | Mikma | Laricwork: colors chatnicks by class <3 |
| 10:23.08 | Mikma | teknicolor_tab adds tab-completion for names catched by teknicolor |
| 10:23.17 | Laricwork | ah nice :P |
| 10:23.19 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel * r12963 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: BigWigs(Klethuzad): fixed typo in RecvSync |
| 10:23.26 | Mikma | so you can just write "assc" and press tab and it wil lbe completed to assclown: :D |
| 10:23.42 | KrteK | Mikma, there's no use for that book I think ^^ |
| 10:24.00 | Laricwork | Mikma nah nah is would be assclown1 of many :P |
| 10:24.14 | Mikma | KrteK: that's what i thought |
| 10:24.28 | Laricwork | 3g65s :P |
| 10:24.35 | Laricwork | or 6600 xp |
| 10:24.50 | Mikma | !trunk Prat |
| 10:24.53 | Mikma | !info Prat |
| 10:24.56 | Mikma | !toc Prat |
| 10:24.59 | KrteK | Mikma, but 4po for the quest and if it's like last year, you will receive a trinket by mail that create some food and drink |
| 10:25.20 | Mikma | KrteK: oh? that's neat then. i hope it doesn't suck |
| 10:25.27 | Laricwork | it sucks big time |
| 10:25.33 | Mikma | i did stock my char full with the festival foods |
| 10:25.38 | Mikma | 20 of each hehe |
| 10:26.30 | Mikma | KrteK: just have Prat's easy chatman done soon and i will dump Chatmanager + vChat ;) |
| 10:27.20 | Mikma | i like chatmanager because it's so easy to use for moderating, and moving chatpositions |
| 10:27.38 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel * r12964 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Sapphiron.lua: BigWigs(Sapphiron): updated deDE translation |
| 10:27.51 | Mikma | KrteK: and btw, there is much more chat-functions that aren't listed in wowwiki, i think |
| 10:27.53 | CIA-11 | 03darkimakuni * r12965 10FuBar_ToFu/ (FuBar_ToFu.toc ToFu.lua lib/): |
| 10:27.53 | CIA-11 | FuBar_ToFu |
| 10:27.53 | CIA-11 | - Changed to use :ScheduleRepeatingEvent() instead of using Metrognome |
| 10:27.53 | CIA-11 | - Removed Metrognome from .toc and externals |
| 10:27.54 | CIA-11 | - Added missing libraries to .toc |
| 10:29.01 | Mikma | nevcairiel: did you see my AlfCast i committed earlier? :) |
| 10:29.03 | KrteK | Mikma, wowwiki is very poor about chat function, wdn.wowinterface.com is my friend since I develop prat ^^ |
| 10:29.14 | nevcairiel | Mikma: only briefly |
| 10:29.33 | Mikma | nevcairiel: it's almost 1:1 EgoCast and i give full credit to [Ammo] in it ;) |
| 10:29.54 | Mikma | i still need to make the alt toggleable on and off tho |
| 10:30.47 | Nickenyfiken | Mikma: so it will only selfcast if you press alt? |
| 10:31.09 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: yeap. hence the name AlfCast (AltSelfCast) |
| 10:31.33 | Nickenyfiken | oh i thought you meant the alien Alf |
| 10:31.37 | Mikma | not sure does it work since i haven't been able to test it :) |
| 10:31.47 | KrteK | Alien Life Form Cast ^^ |
| 10:31.49 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: yeah i knew people would think that first |
| 10:31.55 | [FH]Birdemani | nickenyfiken: how does that work with keybindings? can you never use ALT + something then? |
| 10:31.56 | Nickenyfiken | i have to try it |
| 10:32.11 | [FH]Birdemani | or mikma sorry |
| 10:32.23 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: it's only for clicking the item, i think :) |
| 10:32.35 | Nickenyfiken | hehe |
| 10:32.37 | DarkImakuni | KrteK: lol :P |
| 10:32.42 | Nickenyfiken | so no alt+keybind? |
| 10:32.48 | Nickenyfiken | only alt+mouseclick? |
| 10:32.49 | [FH]Birdemani | i like how simple egocast is, so I may stick with that |
| 10:32.56 | Mikma | to be honest |
| 10:33.08 | Mikma | i wan't to make a perfect Chat AddOn |
| 10:33.17 | Nickenyfiken | "Your drycoding skill has increased to 2" |
| 10:33.20 | Mikma | it will save the positions of chat and uses profiles |
| 10:33.31 | Gngsk | lol |
| 10:33.35 | Mikma | then you can import the layout and settings of chats to another char |
| 10:33.48 | Mikma | that means you don't have to redo the chatsettings over and over for new characters |
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| 10:34.07 | DarkImakuni | "Your reputation with Kemayo has significantly decreased (2000 rep lost)" |
| 10:34.19 | Nickenyfiken | Mikma: that would be neat. i hate how the stupid chatbox is in a oddposition when i log into alts |
| 10:34.41 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: yeah, i had to make AlfCast for my friend because the ass uses alt-selfcasting by telo and i have disabled the alt :P |
| 10:35.02 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: yeah i know, i play several characters too and i freaking hate moving and positioning the damn chats |
| 10:35.38 | Nickenyfiken | just a Prat module for it would be nice |
| 10:36.08 | Mikma | yeah but the problem is i don't know how to take chat-settings and export them into savedvariables |
| 10:36.34 | Mikma | i dislike all addons by Industrial lol |
| 10:36.54 | DarkImakuni | Industrial strength mods :P |
| 10:37.18 | [FH]Birdemani | Mikma: I may have to check it out, a quick self cast method while healing the MT is something I wish egocast could do. I find egocast perfect for pvp and duels, but not as much for raiding |
| 10:37.20 | Greywind | ok i just fell asleep at my keyboard, time for be methinks |
| 10:37.20 | Nickenyfiken | cant you just grab the chatframe coords and save them in ace profiles? |
| 10:37.23 | Mikma | he should have named his mods 'cba' instead of 'id' |
| 10:37.45 | Greywind | time for bed* |
| 10:37.47 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: i myself won't use it ;) i will install EgoCast and point that link to my friend |
| 10:37.49 | DarkImakuni | lol greywind :P nn |
| 10:38.19 | Mikma | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 10:38.21 | Greywind | g'night all |
| 10:38.24 | Mikma | [Ammo]: hey mate.. |
| 10:38.35 | DarkImakuni | Mikma: why 'cba', not 'id'? :P |
| 10:38.44 | Mikma | i wonder can i use IsAddonLoaded(EgoCast) in AlfCast |
| 10:38.57 | Mikma | DarkImakuni: ~literal emulate industrial |
| 10:39.04 | KrteK | nevcairiel, I don't understand what's the problem with the "stupid 20 addons", except maybee for the updating :D |
| 10:39.18 | Galencia | btw whats the best way to use libraries if you use a lot of ace addons? |
| 10:39.31 | DarkImakuni | ~literal emulate Industrial |
| 10:39.41 | purl | "emulate industrial" is "<reply> (Ogm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls!|and now I'm high o/|omgz wat uf in dat ui?!?!1123|Woo, first day at school. Stoned!|It doesnt matter if you win or lose, until you lose.|Mikma says I CBA, guess hes right.|Addon users are addicts.|DIY!)" |
| 10:39.41 | Mikma | Galencia: updating your own package :) |
| 10:39.41 | Galencia | i can see having 100 different copies of them in my addons folder as not being a good idea |
| 10:39.50 | Mikma | i myself turned to !!!Libs yesterday and i think it will suit my needs just fine now |
| 10:39.55 | DarkImakuni | O_o |
| 10:40.02 | Mikma | got my logintimes reduced by 50% |
| 10:40.13 | Mikma | well 40% |
| 10:40.16 | [FH]Birdemani | Mikma: so you choose to do that? |
| 10:40.29 | [FH]Birdemani | I knwo we were talking about it last night |
| 10:40.59 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: yeah but now i'm thinking of adding EgoCast check in AlfCast, so if EgoCast is enabled AlfCast will not load at all :D |
| 10:41.01 | nevcairiel | KrteK: it looks stupid, and takes ages to update from svn, and as long as there are alternatives, keep it away from me :p |
| 10:41.01 | [FH]Birdemani | My only issue would be trying to find which LIBS I need outside of !!libs |
| 10:41.04 | DarkImakuni | deci: Yeah! With this rainbow trout! "Good evening, ladies and gentlemen!" :P |
| 10:41.13 | Mikma | that way i can include AlfCast in my ui for my friend too |
| 10:41.34 | Nickenyfiken | So how do you guys remove all embedded libs if you use !!!Libs? |
| 10:41.54 | Mikma | umm, i have a script for it at home |
| 10:41.56 | Nickenyfiken | i got a ugly bat file for it |
| 10:42.15 | Mikma | it's easy with linux/osx/unix/*nix |
| 10:42.27 | Nickenyfiken | what i dont understand is why !!!Libs got candybars included when its not working anyway |
| 10:42.28 | Laricwork | bash script mikma? |
| 10:42.43 | Mikma | Laricwork: yeap |
| 10:42.44 | Nickenyfiken | candybar have to be embeddeed right? |
| 10:42.55 | Mikma | find . / something something rm -rf {} |
| 10:43.03 | Laricwork | perhaps someone should commit it without candybars |
| 10:43.10 | KrteK | nevcairiel, yes, I understand the updating problem, but it's the only one... and the advantadge is that you can choose exactly what functionnality you want |
| 10:43.20 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: it is working :) |
| 10:43.31 | Nickenyfiken | what is working? |
| 10:43.35 | DarkImakuni | candy |
| 10:43.38 | Mikma | <1342> <Nickenyfiken> what i dont understand is why !!!Libs got candybars included when its not working anyway |
| 10:43.41 | Laricwork | Mikma is candybars working in !!!libs? |
| 10:43.45 | Nickenyfiken | oh, since when? |
| 10:43.47 | Mikma | Laricwork: yes |
| 10:43.50 | Laricwork | since? |
| 10:43.56 | Nickenyfiken | i have never worked for me |
| 10:44.00 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: since yesterday when i renamed !!!Libraries in svn to !!!Libs |
| 10:44.03 | DarkImakuni | since we renamed !!!Libraries to !!!Libs |
| 10:44.18 | Laricwork | was it just too long? |
| 10:44.22 | DarkImakuni | I hate you butler |
| 10:44.23 | Mikma | yeah |
| 10:44.26 | Nickenyfiken | Mikma: oh, i didnt read it in the paper... its like the biggest news this week ffs |
| 10:44.26 | Laricwork | lol |
| 10:44.54 | nevcairiel | KrteK: if i can toggle the functionalty, and its well-designed inside one addon, it wont eat more performance, and i can add new functions without adding yet another addon |
| 10:44.55 | Mikma | skyboat was the one who said that the pathname is too long for candytextures to be loaded and said that he ranamed his local !!!Libraries to !!!Libs and it worked |
| 10:45.02 | Nickenyfiken | del /F /S CandyBar-2.0.lua muaahahahahahaha |
| 10:45.05 | CIA-11 | 03greywind * r12966 10Shifter2/Shifter2.toc: Shifter2: made load on demand, use Supply & Demand to load it |
| 10:45.12 | Mikma | then i tested it too and found out he was correct and i changed it to !!!Libs in svn |
| 10:45.26 | CIA-11 | 03greywind * r12967 10Bartender2_DruidBar/Bartender2_DruidBar.toc: Bartender2_DruidBar: made load on demand, use Supply & Demand to load it |
| 10:45.31 | [FH]Birdemani | ugh, I think I may have to do that then Mikma, install all the libs and recheck out. Gonna be a pain since I use WinXP |
| 10:45.36 | Mikma | lol i thought he wen't to bed |
| 10:45.44 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 10:45.44 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: no not at all |
| 10:46.02 | Grey|away | forgot to commit before i fell asleep at the keyboard :P |
| 10:46.05 | Laricwork | why recheckout? |
| 10:46.12 | DarkImakuni | lol grey :P |
| 10:46.15 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: rename !!!Libraries to !!!Libs. then change the !!!Libraries.toc to !!!Libs.toc |
| 10:46.16 | [FH]Birdemani | because I use the GUI Tortoise |
| 10:46.41 | [FH]Birdemani | right, I got that, but I havent unloaded all my libs yet anyhow |
| 10:46.45 | Laricwork | update to revision leave it at head.. hook omit externals as you are set |
| 10:47.03 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: hey, wan't me to help? |
| 10:47.05 | Laricwork | then you dont update externals anymore |
| 10:47.18 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: i can checkout it for you now and put a zip online if you wish |
| 10:47.31 | KrteK | nevcairiel, I'll have some discussion with Curney, and maybee we'll do only one folder... the truth is that for me it's totally equal |
| 10:47.41 | [FH]Birdemani | it will be all the externals? |
| 10:47.51 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: yes, with all externals |
| 10:47.55 | [FH]Birdemani | know what, let me learn this, i need to |
| 10:48.09 | Mikma | awwww too late, already checkouting |
| 10:48.24 | Nickenyfiken | *trying !!!Libs* |
| 10:48.48 | nevcairiel | someone should really do a ace2 raidtracker |
| 10:48.55 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: hey, are you using PerfectRaid? |
| 10:49.05 | Laricwork | my little update script in xp... for /D %%A in (*.*) do svn --ignore-externals up %%A |
| 10:49.13 | Nickenyfiken | Mikma: only in raids |
| 10:49.19 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: so that's a yes |
| 10:49.21 | [FH]Birdemani | Laricwork: Ok, doing that, once done can I delete all the LIB folders in each addon? |
| 10:49.29 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: i hope you didn't delete the libs in PerfectRaid :) |
| 10:49.35 | Nickenyfiken | Mikma: yes, sometimes |
| 10:49.46 | Nickenyfiken | Mikma: i did |
| 10:49.46 | Laricwork | [FH]Birdemani yeps |
| 10:50.04 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: ouch :) |
| 10:50.34 | Nickenyfiken | but i dont have it enabled now |
| 10:50.37 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: then you will be missing FAIAP.lua |
| 10:50.44 | Mikma | and perfectraid needs it |
| 10:50.49 | Nickenyfiken | ok |
| 10:50.55 | Mikma | i'll add that file too in !!!Libs as soon as i'm ready on the checkout |
| 10:51.11 | [FH]Birdemani | Mikma: is !!libs now all the externals? Last night when I asked you said that a few are missing |
| 10:51.23 | Nickenyfiken | well my script does not delete that lib |
| 10:51.23 | nevcairiel | i tried doing it with !!Libs once, but it didnt actually save loading time i wouldve noticed.. |
| 10:51.26 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: what where missing? |
| 10:51.35 | [FH]Birdemani | not sure, thought it was you that said it |
| 10:51.59 | Mikma | nevcairiel: 15.xxx seconds with all externals, 9.8xx with !!!Libs and externals deleted |
| 10:52.11 | Mikma | made difference in my mac :) |
| 10:52.14 | nevcairiel | yay for 5 seconds |
| 10:52.24 | Nickenyfiken | hehe i got alot of errors |
| 10:52.29 | Mikma | in zoning and in raid it's alot bigger |
| 10:52.32 | nevcairiel | all the time i need to delete the externals and fix all the errors |
| 10:52.33 | Mikma | 30seconds+ |
| 10:52.43 | nevcairiel | wont zone that long in a week :D |
| 10:53.01 | Nickenyfiken | all mods seems to be missing acelibrary |
| 10:53.25 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: you checkouted with externals disabled. |
| 10:53.35 | Nickenyfiken | lol i deleted all embedded libs and !!!Libs\Libs\ is also empty |
| 10:53.44 | Nickenyfiken | i grabbed it from /files/ |
| 10:53.47 | Mikma | i did that too couple of times |
| 10:53.58 | Mikma | oh it was clique, not OR |
| 10:54.05 | Mikma | s/OR/PR/ |
| 10:54.21 | Mikma | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Clique/libs/FAIAP.lua |
| 10:54.45 | Nickenyfiken | !trunk !!!Libs |
| 10:55.06 | Nickenyfiken | stupid zip-files is never correct |
| 10:55.22 | DarkImakuni | ~fix SVNBot |
| 10:55.29 | purl | ACTION takes SVNBot to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 10:55.38 | Mikma | SVNBot: wake up |
| 10:55.46 | DarkImakuni | ~wake SVNBot |
| 10:55.48 | purl | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on SVNBot and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 10:55.48 | DarkImakuni | :P |
| 10:55.48 | Nickenyfiken | lol |
| 10:56.01 | Nickenyfiken | ~pet SVNBot |
| 10:56.02 | purl | ACTION reaches over and pets SVNBot on the head, saying "There, there! It'll all be ok!" |
| 10:56.08 | nevcairiel | ~botsnack |
| 10:56.08 | purl | :), nevcairiel |
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| 10:56.39 | Nickenyfiken | ok ill have to check out libs with tortoise then |
| 10:56.44 | DarkImakuni | ~welcome MoonWolf |
| 10:56.45 | purl | Good to see you, MoonWolf! |
| 10:56.49 | Mikma | mm i need to test this external out |
| 10:56.52 | Mikma | not sure will it work or not |
| 10:57.45 | Nickenyfiken | cant checkout !!!Libs either :-P |
| 10:57.47 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12968 10!!!Libs/ (!!!Libs.toc Libs/): !!!Libs: tried to add FAIAP.lua to fix Clique error if the libs has been deleted |
| 10:58.09 | Laricwork | what the heck is faiap? |
| 10:58.45 | Mikma | for all intends and purpose |
| 10:58.52 | Mikma | or something like that |
| 10:58.58 | Mikma | Fetching external item into '!!!Libs/Libs/FAIAP.lua' |
| 10:58.58 | Mikma | svn: URL 'http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Clique/libs/FAIAP.lua' refers to a file, not a directory |
| 10:59.01 | Mikma | :( |
| 10:59.02 | Laricwork | ah the code beutifier? |
| 10:59.08 | Mikma | yeah, Clique uses it |
| 10:59.13 | Galencia | whats the difference between Libs and Libraries? :) |
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| 10:59.25 | Laricwork | candybars works :P |
| 10:59.26 | Mikma | Galencia: Libraries -> Libs now |
| 10:59.50 | Mikma | so, i can't link to files in externals... so let's see what happens if i add whole clique libs :D |
| 11:01.01 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel * r12969 10Clique/Plugins/Clique_sRF.lua: Clique: minor changes to sRF plugin |
| 11:01.19 | nevcairiel | Mikma: FAIAP.lua is no external on clique, its a normal file |
| 11:01.32 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12970 10!!!Libs/Libs/: !!!Libs: previous commit did nott work. testing another way |
| 11:01.33 | Mikma | hmm well yeah |
| 11:01.45 | Mikma | now i get it i need to add it in Libs folder |
| 11:01.51 | Mikma | gotcha |
| 11:02.32 | Nickenyfiken | thanks Mikma |
| 11:03.25 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12971 10!!!Libs/Libs/ (. FAIAP.lua): !!!Libs: lets pretend the 2 previous commits did not exist. ok? |
| 11:03.43 | Laricwork | who had a nice bat to delete the libs? |
| 11:03.45 | Nickenyfiken | hehe |
| 11:03.54 | Mikma | now it SHOULD be fine |
| 11:04.02 | Mikma | with clique support <3 |
| 11:04.25 | Mikma | but the thing is, others than me hate it and they will delete it as soon as they can |
| 11:04.48 | nevcairiel | i am trying to use clique today :o |
| 11:05.05 | nevcairiel | but i use like 5 different healing spells, and dont have enough keys |
| 11:05.23 | JoshBork1 | alt+ctrl+shift+3 button mouse isn't enough keys o.O |
| 11:05.33 | Mikma | nevcairiel: shift+left ctrl+left alt+left shift+ctrl+left shift+alt+left .. |
| 11:05.51 | nevcairiel | ctrl is push-to-talk |
| 11:05.51 | Mikma | i use 1 healingspells |
| 11:05.54 | nevcairiel | alt is selfcast |
| 11:05.55 | Mikma | Flash Heal rank MAX |
| 11:06.03 | Laricwork | mikma why= |
| 11:06.05 | Mikma | nevcairiel: doesn't matter with clickcasting |
| 11:06.05 | nevcairiel | Mikma: easy-mode-priest. |
| 11:06.13 | Mikma | Laricwork: because i don't need anything else :) |
| 11:06.16 | Laricwork | flash heal max kinda sucks |
| 11:06.26 | JoshBork1 | just don't say anything while holding down ctrl ;-) |
| 11:06.27 | Mikma | not in my gameplay :D |
| 11:06.38 | nevcairiel | JoshBork1: i do make noise then :o |
| 11:06.39 | Laricwork | whats your mana pool? |
| 11:06.46 | Mikma | 8k buffed |
| 11:07.02 | nevcairiel | hm and on mouse4 i have toggle-run :D |
| 11:07.17 | Laricwork | same as me.. I have switched to rank 5 or so normally.. to use all my nice +heal gear and still have some mana left :P |
| 11:07.17 | JoshBork1 | nevcairiel: it doesn't matter on click-casting |
| 11:07.26 | JoshBork1 | nevcairiel: auto-run requires no modifier to go |
| 11:07.38 | Mikma | Laricwork: i don't heal that much, i only heal persons who are about to die ;) |
| 11:07.38 | JoshBork1 | nevcairiel: alt is used when you are using an action button |
| 11:07.55 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (i=Elkano@pool029.vpn.uni-saarland.de) |
| 11:07.55 | Mikma | Laricwork: i'm guild's shadowpriest so i use other skills alot |
| 11:07.59 | Mikma | hence the lack of heals |
| 11:08.12 | Laricwork | ah.. shadow mage without aoe |
| 11:08.23 | Mikma | but i still hardly run out of mana in battles |
| 11:08.30 | nevcairiel | JoshBork1: i start walking when i press mouse4, and i wouldnt want to miss it, i use that alot, i can prolly use alt and shift tho |
| 11:08.42 | *** join/#wowace nuOHEP (n=nuohep@h54.ciscom.ru) |
| 11:08.45 | nevcairiel | only makes sense when i am group healing tho |
| 11:08.52 | nevcairiel | on mt healing i will stick to numbers |
| 11:08.55 | JoshBork1 | nevcairiel: yes, just use a modifier on the button 4 |
| 11:09.23 | Mikma | wow.reaktio.net/bt2.sh |
| 11:09.29 | Mikma | i like my update script :D |
| 11:09.53 | Mikma | Laricwork: http://www.wowledgebase.com/?id=13 <- with t1 shoulders |
| 11:10.46 | nevcairiel | with that i can actually heal 5 man groups without my keyboard, yay :D |
| 11:11.05 | Mikma | nevcairiel: well clique works with perfectraid, too ;) |
| 11:11.13 | Mikma | so you can heal whole raid without keyboard |
| 11:11.46 | nevcairiel | in raid i need shift and alt for healing |
| 11:11.46 | nevcairiel | more complex healing pattern |
| 11:11.46 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 11:11.59 | Mikma | all i do actually is shift+leftclick and shift+rightclick ;) |
| 11:12.06 | JoshBork1 | Mikma: psh! i get mine from files :-D |
| 11:12.08 | Mikma | and when i'm playing with touchpad, shift+leftclick |
| 11:12.10 | nevcairiel | mhm |
| 11:12.18 | nevcairiel | but how do i target anyone with clique ? :D |
| 11:12.19 | Mikma | JoshBork1: whas? |
| 11:12.28 | Mikma | nevcairiel: normal leftclick? |
| 11:12.44 | Mikma | or have you binded it? |
| 11:12.44 | nevcairiel | thats a heal now :D |
| 11:12.52 | Mikma | there's alot of options in clique |
| 11:13.05 | Mikma | like "Out of combat" "target is hostile" "target is friendly" |
| 11:13.08 | JoshBork1 | Mikma: my zip stuff |
| 11:13.13 | Mikma | you can define different mousebinds there |
| 11:13.39 | Mikma | JoshBork1: what are you talking about? :) |
| 11:13.59 | JoshBork1 | Mikma: your bt2.sh zipit script :-P |
| 11:14.08 | Mikma | JoshBork1: yes, and? :) |
| 11:14.16 | JoshBork1 | oh i don't know |
| 11:14.18 | JoshBork1 | it's too early |
| 11:14.19 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/addons/ |
| 11:14.21 | JoshBork1 | and i'm running late |
| 11:14.28 | Mikma | JoshBork1: it just zips the addons there :) |
| 11:14.53 | nevcairiel | hm, there is still global cooldown, which generally is enough to target the next player |
| 11:16.31 | [FH]Birdemani | Could someone touch the lowdown? seems it isnt on the SVN |
| 11:16.46 | nevcairiel | i guess its more useful for priests anyway, i dont do much group healing |
| 11:17.10 | [FH]Birdemani | nm, it woekd that time |
| 11:17.12 | [FH]Birdemani | odd |
| 11:17.37 | KrteK | You've asked for it, here it is : http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Prat/OneDir/ ^^ |
| 11:17.47 | nevcairiel | yay! |
| 11:19.08 | Mikma | lol |
| 11:19.38 | Mikma | KrteK: the thing is... i like that OneDir idea more than all 20 addons separated |
| 11:19.57 | Mikma | so you should make options to load/disable all needed within game |
| 11:20.19 | haste | they still load when disabled tho' :3 |
| 11:20.28 | Mikma | mm |
| 11:20.35 | Mikma | screw blizzard |
| 11:20.39 | nevcairiel | you can nil them out later tho |
| 11:20.39 | DarkImakuni | delete the files you dont want |
| 11:20.52 | DarkImakuni | ~screw Blizzard |
| 11:21.14 | KrteK | I think all module have a toggling option, and actually is more a proof of concept ... I must discuss with Curney first about that ^^ |
| 11:21.22 | Mikma | purl: screw $1 is <action> asks $1 to bend over |
| 11:21.24 | purl | okay, Mikma |
| 11:21.25 | KrteK | *it's |
| 11:21.31 | *** join/#wowace Arrowmaster` (i=Arrow@cpe-24-209-111-105.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 11:21.39 | DarkImakuni | lol Mikma :P |
| 11:21.43 | Mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:21.45 | purl | ACTION asks Blizzard to bend over |
| 11:21.49 | Mikma | :D |
| 11:22.02 | nevcairiel | ~whalecrit Mikma |
| 11:22.04 | purl | ACTION crits Mikma with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Mikma dies |
| 11:22.08 | Mikma | noeees! |
| 11:22.15 | Mikma | ~mourn Mikma |
| 11:22.16 | purl | ACTION lights some candles for Mikma |
| 11:22.16 | nevcairiel | ~literal whalecrit |
| 11:22.20 | DarkImakuni | ~whalerevive Mikma |
| 11:22.38 | nevcairiel | now we broke it again |
| 11:22.43 | DarkImakuni | doh |
| 11:22.55 | Mikma | purl: yo |
| 11:22.56 | purl | Yo wazzaaaap my brotha?! |
| 11:23.01 | DarkImakuni | rofl |
| 11:23.21 | nevcairiel | why isnt ~literal working ? :o |
| 11:23.38 | Mikma | ~literal whalecrit |
| 11:23.46 | Mikma | ~literal whalecrit $1 |
| 11:23.47 | purl | ACTION crits $1 with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. $1 dies |
| 11:23.59 | Mikma | ummkay |
| 11:24.00 | nevcairiel | oO |
| 11:24.03 | DarkImakuni | ~literal emulate DarkImakuni |
| 11:24.07 | nevcairiel | ~literal literal |
| 11:24.08 | purl | "literal" is "<reply>Leave me alone you! I won't reveal my secrets!" |
| 11:24.18 | nevcairiel | ~literal whalecrit |
| 11:24.25 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 11:24.27 | moonwolf | someone overloaded literal ? |
| 11:24.33 | DarkImakuni | why wont purl emulate me? :'( |
| 11:24.41 | nevcairiel | ~emulate DarkImakuni |
| 11:24.47 | Mikma | DarkImakuni: because only leet persons get emulated |
| 11:24.50 | Mikma | ~emulate mikma |
| 11:24.51 | purl | Noto|Anenga: Make it Ace2 |
| 11:24.57 | Mikma | like that |
| 11:24.58 | moonwolf | ~emulate moonwolf |
| 11:24.59 | purl | I like the female troll model |
| 11:25.02 | Mikma | ~emulate mikma |
| 11:25.04 | purl | I like cake. |
| 11:25.08 | DarkImakuni | lol |
| 11:25.17 | Nickenyfiken | ~emulate NES |
| 11:25.27 | krka | ~emulate krka |
| 11:25.28 | purl | Didn't I plug FAIAP to you already? I thought I did long time ago. |
| 11:25.32 | Nickenyfiken | i wanna play ice climber! |
| 11:25.42 | haste | ice climber? |
| 11:25.47 | moonwolf | ~emulate treepwood |
| 11:25.49 | DarkImakuni | nintendo game |
| 11:25.53 | haste | I want to play WoW, but meeeh |
| 11:26.04 | nevcairiel | still no gfx card? |
| 11:26.38 | Mikma | i just had to check faiap after that emulate. guess what i found out |
| 11:26.39 | KrteK | I wanna my Realms back |
| 11:26.42 | Mikma | krka is hte author x# |
| 11:26.52 | Mikma | s/x#/=)/ |
| 11:26.57 | haste | nevcairiel, bingo |
| 11:26.59 | Mikma | zomg mroe caffeine |
| 11:27.04 | Mikma | ~emulate Industrial |
| 11:27.05 | purl | Addon users are addicts. |
| 11:27.08 | krka | Mikma: yes, so? :) |
| 11:27.13 | Mikma | krka: hi, what's up |
| 11:27.23 | krka | ceil |
| 11:27.26 | haste | I found some pretty cool japanese "black" metal tho' |
| 11:27.28 | nevcairiel | FAIAP broke my tinypad |
| 11:27.29 | nevcairiel | :/ |
| 11:27.32 | haste | but the vocal sucks hard :D |
| 11:27.37 | krka | broke it? |
| 11:27.45 | krka | i'd be very interested in a bug report |
| 11:27.52 | nevcairiel | i couldnt type in the box anymore |
| 11:28.00 | DarkImakuni | ~emulate Blood Elf |
| 11:28.29 | DarkImakuni | bah dumbass purl |
| 11:28.30 | haste | ~emulate ag` |
| 11:28.32 | purl | No, that can't be my bug. Disable all your addons, delete your WTF, empty your trashbin, wash the dog and throw a magnet on your harddrive. Oh, you still get the bug? Ok, I'll take a look at it |
| 11:28.36 | nevcairiel | wowi is the latest version? |
| 11:29.02 | DarkImakuni | lol haste :D |
| 11:29.02 | krka | latest _public_ release anyway :) |
| 11:29.35 | JoshBork1 | nevcairiel: don't put a whole lot into the editbox at once :-X |
| 11:29.58 | krka | i'll probably make a new release for TBC |
| 11:30.00 | DarkImakuni | ~emulate Tekkub |
| 11:30.02 | purl | I'm taking back that /blow job |
| 11:30.03 | krka | with lua 5.1 syntax and all |
| 11:30.09 | snurre | my realm is down for 36 :( |
| 11:30.11 | DarkImakuni | O.o |
| 11:30.14 | snurre | hours* |
| 11:30.43 | Mikma | snurre: zomg, you have to come to my server so can have hot naked nelf-sex |
| 11:31.14 | snurre | :p |
| 11:31.35 | KrteK | snurre, my realms too :( |
| 11:32.00 | nevcairiel | JoshBork1: i was simply typing in there, and it somehow hang. didnt happen without FAIAP tho. |
| 11:32.05 | haste | cool, today I haven't played WoW for a week |
| 11:32.21 | CIA-11 | 03thisterhall * r12973 10XAD/ (28 files in 3 dirs): Fixed many bugs including but not limited to. self.Buttons nil error, compost error, bandages not always working, reduced memory usage. |
| 11:32.24 | KrteK | haste : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8hfK3RQs2g |
| 11:32.34 | haste | seen all the addicts movies |
| 11:32.39 | Mikma | <1432> <CIA-11> thisterhall * r12973 XAD/ !!!!!!!!!! |
| 11:32.42 | Mikma | he got svn account! |
| 11:32.43 | haste | Is it the guy who sold his door for a month of playtime? |
| 11:33.02 | KrteK | yeah ^^ |
| 11:33.25 | haste | he needs help, and so does his mother :p |
| 11:33.28 | nevcairiel | krka: cant seem to reproduce the error now, when i encounter it again, will try to get more information :) |
| 11:33.39 | DarkImakuni | ~emulate Wobin |
| 11:33.41 | purl | oh smurf me harder! |
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| 11:33.44 | krka | seems like faiap could do that :) |
| 11:33.47 | DarkImakuni | o.O |
| 11:33.48 | krka | it got lots of weirdness |
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| 11:34.50 | [FH]Birdemani | Mikma: !!!libs saved about 12 seconds of load time, if not more |
| 11:35.37 | [FH]Birdemani | however, the onebag libs are missing, and looks like some fubar plugin 2 are as well |
| 11:35.38 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: =) |
| 11:37.39 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: what libs? collect me the names and i add them asap |
| 11:38.11 | Mikma | that's the reason why i completely switched to !!!Libs too, even if it's 'noob' for some :) |
| 11:38.25 | Mikma | i did tests with Warmup and noticed it's faster |
| 11:38.55 | Galencia | oh oh oh compost error fixed |
| 11:39.30 | Mikma | neat |
| 11:39.35 | Mikma | will have to take it again later today |
| 11:39.45 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2309.msg48805#msg48805 |
| 11:39.46 | Mikma | kekek! |
| 11:39.48 | Mikma | i just had to |
| 11:40.08 | Galencia | :) |
| 11:40.34 | Mikma | nevcairiel: ask bant |
| 11:40.39 | nevcairiel | who? |
| 11:40.42 | Mikma | bant |
| 11:40.45 | nevcairiel | who? |
| 11:40.48 | Mikma | DarkImakuni: thanks :D |
| 11:40.49 | Mikma | bant |
| 11:40.58 | nevcairiel | ive never heard that name |
| 11:41.02 | JoshBork1 | ui for what? |
| 11:41.20 | JoshBork1 | oh no! |
| 11:42.02 | Mikma | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1603.0 |
| 11:42.10 | Mikma | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1603.0;id=226;image |
| 11:42.12 | phyber | I think I might stick the following description into some addons. because management speak is the new coherent |
| 11:42.23 | phyber | $addon is an agile, vertical LUA application for mission-critical enterprise environments that leverages collective synergy to drive "outside of the box" thinking and formulate key objectives into a win-win game plan with a quality-driven approach that focuses on empowering key players to drive-up their core competencies and increase expectations with an all-around initiative to drive up the bottom-line. |
| 11:42.44 | Galencia | haha |
| 11:42.49 | oxman | Someone want see my PerfectRaid revisited ? ;) |
| 11:43.15 | haste | I'm bored, so yes |
| 11:43.23 | oxman | lol wait a minute :) |
| 11:43.50 | [FH]Birdemani | damn, i wish i moved to agUF a while ago |
| 11:44.05 | Health | k |
| 11:44.37 | phyber | I wonder if AG will make agUF modular in the future. |
| 11:45.32 | phyber | unless raidframes being in there doesn't use much extra memory until they're used. :) |
| 11:45.43 | nevcairiel | i hope |
| 11:45.53 | [FH]Birdemani | i dumped sraidframes for agRF today |
| 11:46.00 | nevcairiel | i dont really like the agRF |
| 11:46.10 | [FH]Birdemani | why is that? |
| 11:46.23 | Galencia | i wish they were a little more configurable |
| 11:46.27 | Galencia | but other than that they rock |
| 11:46.31 | nevcairiel | just doesnt feel good :) |
| 11:46.40 | nevcairiel | i use sRF and am happy |
| 11:46.47 | oxman | Someone want see my PerfectRaid revisited : tinyurl.com/kzgn2 |
| 11:47.33 | Laricwork | does agrf show class buffs= |
| 11:47.42 | clad|work | i wish |
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| 11:48.04 | [FH]Birdemani | like battleshout? |
| 11:48.15 | oxman | its perfectraid with frames like ora2 maintank frames =D |
| 11:48.23 | oxman | I love it ^^ |
| 11:49.33 | phyber | that does look rather nice. |
| 11:49.38 | haste | I have to agree |
| 11:49.59 | oxman | but it take more place ;) |
| 11:50.25 | phyber | more space shouldn't be an issue after you've hacked it so that each group is movable on its own, right? ;) |
| 11:50.28 | oxman | http://tinyurl.com/gdo6K here with unit selected |
| 11:50.31 | [FH]Birdemani | oxman, afRF done with bantobars looks about the same |
| 11:50.39 | oxman | ah ah no phyber :p |
| 11:50.45 | oxman | afrf ??? |
| 11:50.57 | phyber | damn. trick has failed. |
| 11:51.00 | oxman | I will add raidicon support in my hack ;) |
| 11:51.02 | oxman | phyber :p |
| 11:51.09 | [FH]Birdemani | agRF (typo) |
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| 11:51.40 | oxman | oh... |
| 11:51.43 | oxman | aguf . |
| 11:51.51 | oxman | its look like but its not |
| 11:52.00 | oxman | you've advanced sort, debuff/buff type different |
| 11:52.01 | oxman | :) |
| 11:52.33 | oxman | but indeed, its look like |
| 11:52.47 | oxman | I've already try agRF, and its fine, but take more place than my praid revisited :p |
| 11:52.58 | Laricwork | Mikma you have to add the externals for sprocket to !!!libs though :P |
| 11:53.42 | *** part/#wowace JoshBork1 (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 11:54.09 | oxman | I want add aggro support |
| 11:54.14 | oxman | but I dunno where :| |
| 11:54.34 | oxman | I don't think color name for all the raid is good because it can be hard to see class when them health = 100% |
| 11:54.37 | [FH]Birdemani | change frame color? flash it? |
| 11:54.49 | oxman | maybe, i'll try thank |
| 11:54.52 | oxman | (but don't flash) |
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| 11:56.38 | Galencia | damn, !!!Libs is big :) |
| 11:57.07 | Galencia | Mikma: do you need to modify addons toc files if you are using !!!Libs? |
| 11:57.44 | [FH]Birdemani | Galencia: I just did it now and didnt need to |
| 11:59.18 | phyber | nope. all of the libs will load and the addons will just use the loaded libs. |
| 11:59.29 | phyber | unless their local copy is newer, then that will load. blah blah blah. |
| 12:00.03 | [FH]Birdemani | i just deleted the libs folder in each directory to save HDD space |
| 12:00.32 | haste | grats on 3MB more space |
| 12:00.49 | haste | and X amounts of work :3 |
| 12:00.50 | [FH]Birdemani | im a miser about wasted space |
| 12:00.57 | [FH]Birdemani | took me 10 min |
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| 12:01.19 | CIA-11 | 03laric * r12974 10!!!Libs/ (!!!Libs.toc Libs/): |
| 12:01.19 | CIA-11 | !!!Libs: |
| 12:01.19 | CIA-11 | - Added sprockets externals |
| 12:01.26 | [FH]Birdemani | plus im friendlier to the SVN now |
| 12:02.35 | *** join/#wowace Rophy (n=Miranda@csw21.cs.nthu.edu.tw) |
| 12:02.52 | snurre | god i hate playing without addons |
| 12:03.02 | snurre | so little information available on the screen :/ |
| 12:03.12 | [Insom]Farns | snurre: BC Beta? :P |
| 12:03.17 | snurre | sh |
| 12:03.39 | [Insom]Farns | Can't wait until US ones start -_- |
| 12:03.45 | [FH]Birdemani | same |
| 12:03.48 | [FH]Birdemani | will be fun to play it |
| 12:03.53 | oxman | Eu closed beta is very soon |
| 12:03.54 | oxman | :) |
| 12:03.54 | [Insom]Farns | Practically camping my email :P |
| 12:04.04 | oxman | don't forget to eat |
| 12:04.05 | oxman | :p |
| 12:04.33 | [Insom]Farns | ;) |
| 12:06.17 | Thorias | EU closed beta is in progress allready :) |
| 12:06.26 | Laricwork | [Insom]Farns why would you get an email? |
| 12:06.44 | [FH]Birdemani | some guilds got invites |
| 12:06.52 | [FH]Birdemani | 26 passes per guild |
| 12:06.59 | Thorias | I got a F&F invite |
| 12:07.03 | oxman | 25 in french |
| 12:07.03 | oxman | :) |
| 12:07.09 | Mikma | phew, home at last |
| 12:07.15 | [FH]Birdemani | its 26, 25 + the GM |
| 12:07.20 | Thorias | tried it last night |
| 12:07.42 | Laricwork | well I dont have hopes for me getting it :( |
| 12:08.47 | oxman | RAID_TARGET_UPDATE don't give the unit !? |
| 12:10.53 | nevcairiel | no |
| 12:11.14 | oxman | stupid blizzard :| |
| 12:11.19 | oxman | i must scan all the raid for that :/ |
| 12:12.04 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:12.14 | DarkImakuni | afternoon JoshBorke |
| 12:16.22 | oxman | he he, raidicon work fine xD |
| 12:16.41 | oxman | so now, aggro support ^^ |
| 12:16.57 | DarkImakuni | :) |
| 12:17.07 | CIA-11 | 03laric * r12975 10!!!Libs/ (. Libs/): |
| 12:17.07 | CIA-11 | !!!Libs: |
| 12:17.07 | CIA-11 | - Newtry at sprockets externals |
| 12:17.52 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (i=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-191.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 12:17.52 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 12:19.48 | *** join/#wowace revv (n=Miranda@205.174.173.142) |
| 12:20.07 | oxman | hum i can't use the aggro method of ora2 |
| 12:20.11 | oxman | its a special method for tank :| |
| 12:20.17 | oxman | i will use banzai |
| 12:24.24 | KrteK | Which one is better to use, BabbleLib2.0 or 2.1 ? |
| 12:24.32 | oxman | 2.0 |
| 12:24.40 | oxman | 2.1 use acelocale-2.1 (its only for that) |
| 12:24.48 | oxman | and ckknight deprecate acelocale-2.1 |
| 12:25.02 | oxman | the reverse localisation is broken in acelocale-2.1 for example |
| 12:25.15 | KrteK | ok :) thx |
| 12:25.48 | Mikma | well, AL2.0 is widely supported by ckknight_ which is a verybad thing for bugs ;) |
| 12:25.59 | oxman | :p |
| 12:26.12 | nevcairiel | AL is such a simple addon |
| 12:26.20 | nevcairiel | i dont get why people make such a drama about it |
| 12:27.23 | oxman | which drama ?! |
| 12:27.44 | Wobin | rofl |
| 12:27.45 | Wobin | http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m212/Weaver_in_Darkness/supermegatopia/jlawow.jpg |
| 12:28.11 | DarkImakuni | o.O |
| 12:28.13 | nevcairiel | rofl |
| 12:29.55 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12976 10!!!Libs/ (!!!Libs.toc Libs/): !!!Libs: added OneStorage-2.0 |
| 12:30.12 | CIA-11 | 03thisterhall * r12977 10XAD/core.lua: Fixed a bug when you first enter the game. Added a 1 sec delay to updating the button for the first time so other things can get loaded. |
| 12:32.41 | DarkImakuni | only 23 more commits and Ace SVN will be 13000 revisions old |
| 12:32.49 | Wobin | hm |
| 12:32.54 | Wobin | maybe I should snipe that one too =P |
| 12:33.04 | Wobin | I got 12000 =) |
| 12:33.08 | DarkImakuni | oh no, I have dibs on 13000 :P |
| 12:33.10 | Wobin | "Touched toc" |
| 12:33.37 | Mikma | Wobin: my 12800 sucks ass :D |
| 12:33.37 | nevcairiel | i already see it, we have 12999 and instantly 10 commits fly in :D |
| 12:36.56 | oxman | 'give me 2po please' |
| 12:36.58 | oxman | i answer : |
| 12:37.00 | oxman | 'Hello' |
| 12:37.05 | oxman | 'Say hello is an option for you ?' |
| 12:37.06 | oxman | xD |
| 12:37.19 | hiflyer | I posted on sRaidFrames forums as suggested: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1758.380 |
| 12:37.24 | Mikma | 2po? |
| 12:37.26 | Mikma | points? |
| 12:37.28 | oxman | him : 'hlo' |
| 12:37.29 | oxman | gold |
| 12:37.31 | oxman | sorry |
| 12:37.44 | oxman | me : 'You don't know how say HELLO in full letters ?' |
| 12:37.56 | krka | omg hiflyer that is such an insightful and good post, i wish everyone would read it! |
| 12:38.06 | Health | omg yes! |
| 12:38.06 | oxman | :) |
| 12:38.11 | Devour- | wow nice post |
| 12:38.12 | oxman | its about ? |
| 12:38.16 | hiflyer | krka: lol do you work in advertising? |
| 12:38.34 | hiflyer | oxman: adding buff duration to sRaidFrames |
| 12:38.48 | hiflyer | oxman: on mouse over the buff icons |
| 12:38.51 | axxo | l2diff |
| 12:39.02 | Health | axxo: There is a diff as reply I think. |
| 12:39.03 | hiflyer | axxo: I will, kkthx |
| 12:39.19 | krka | i already lectured him on diffing |
| 12:39.32 | oxman | thanks hiflyer :) |
| 12:39.33 | hiflyer | axxo: I suck! |
| 12:39.42 | axxo | hiflyer: thats ok, so do i |
| 12:40.02 | hiflyer | axxo: yay! |
| 12:40.16 | *** join/#wowace grzesieq (n=grzesieq@irssi/user/grzesieq) |
| 12:40.29 | Health | hiflyer: You forgot the screenshot! Everyone will ignore it otherwise. |
| 12:41.01 | krka | he's right! |
| 12:41.22 | hiflyer | oxman: my GF tried it out last night and it seemed to work ok. |
| 12:41.34 | hiflyer | Health: I should add that, yes |
| 12:41.41 | Health | you go girl! |
| 12:43.02 | Thrae | Health: Why must everyone who hears "girlfriend" immediatly think "lesbian"? ;) |
| 12:43.13 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 12:43.25 | nevcairiel | Thrae: thats what you said now. |
| 12:43.27 | Mikma | Thrae: fix the bot please :) |
| 12:43.34 | axxo | Thrae: because lesbians are cool |
| 12:43.39 | snurre | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HsZqKe_mek |
| 12:43.44 | snurre | stephen colbert ftw |
| 12:43.47 | Thrae | Mikma: What needs fixing? |
| 12:43.49 | Mikma | no, lesbians suck cunt. bi's are cool |
| 12:43.56 | Mikma | Thrae: everything :(( |
| 12:43.59 | Mikma | !trunk Prat |
| 12:44.06 | Mikma | !info Prat |
| 12:44.10 | Mikma | !toc Prat |
| 12:44.11 | Thrae | !trunk Prat |
| 12:44.13 | nevcairiel | !slap Prat |
| 12:44.30 | DarkImakuni | ~kill Prat |
| 12:44.41 | purl | ACTION shoots a charged anti-photon gun at Prat |
| 12:45.06 | nevcairiel | i prefer whalecrit tho |
| 12:45.11 | nevcairiel | ~whalecrit DarkImakuni |
| 12:45.16 | purl | ACTION crits DarkImakuni with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. DarkImakuni dies |
| 12:45.19 | *** join/#wowace Azix (n=Azix@host213-123-205-178.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 12:46.03 | DarkImakuni | X( |
| 12:46.20 | nevcairiel | yay |
| 12:46.25 | Wobin | success, eh? |
| 12:46.25 | nevcairiel | we killed it |
| 12:46.34 | *** join/#wowace SVNBot (n=generalm@c-68-48-83-98.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 12:46.35 | KrteK | Why always Prat ??? |
| 12:46.37 | *** join/#wowace PikPikerson (n=tkieffer@ppp-70-247-116-220.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 12:46.45 | nevcairiel | because the name is so weird |
| 12:46.50 | KrteK | lol |
| 12:46.51 | Thrae | !trunk Prat |
| 12:46.55 | SVNBot | You can already find the latest revision of Prat at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/Prat/ |
| 12:47.00 | KrteK | that's a good reason nevcairiel |
| 12:47.04 | Thrae | !notes Prat |
| 12:47.04 | SVNBot | Prat Notes: A framework for chat frame modules. || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Prat |
| 12:47.04 | KrteK | !toc Prat |
| 12:47.50 | Wobin | !toc FuBar_FuXPFu |
| 12:47.50 | Thrae | !toc Prat |
| 12:47.53 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Prat |
| 12:48.01 | Health | Thrae: I actually have hiflyer closer than you think! He's a bit lesbian |
| 12:48.03 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/FuBar_FuXPFu |
| 12:48.25 | hiflyer | Health: eh? |
| 12:48.37 | Wobin | yay |
| 12:48.37 | hiflyer | Health: in the sense that I like girls? |
| 12:48.42 | KrteK | Poor SVNBot ... He had to do a loot of toc update now ^^ |
| 12:48.53 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Prat |
| 12:49.03 | Health | Thrae thought I though you were lesbian! |
| 12:50.56 | DarkImakuni | !toc FuBar_ToFu |
| 12:51.02 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/FuBar_ToFu |
| 12:51.37 | DarkImakuni | !trunk FuBar_ToFu |
| 12:51.41 | SVNBot | The latest revision of FuBar_ToFu is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/FuBar_ToFu/ |
| 12:52.48 | DarkImakuni | bah, stupid bot |
| 12:52.56 | DarkImakuni | !slap SVNBot |
| 12:53.22 | Thrae | What's wrong with it? |
| 12:53.50 | DarkImakuni | hasn't updated the wiki :P |
| 12:53.52 | nevcairiel | darki blames it for his programming errors |
| 12:53.53 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 12:54.04 | DarkImakuni | shut up nev :P |
| 12:54.11 | Thrae | !toc FuBar_ToFu |
| 12:54.29 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/FuBar_ToFu |
| 12:54.32 | Thrae | If there has been a change since the last !trunk, you need to call !trunk again before !toc. |
| 12:54.50 | DarkImakuni | I did |
| 12:55.34 | hiflyer | Health: there. Pic too |
| 12:55.40 | Mikma | wot woot wooot |
| 12:55.41 | Health | YAY |
| 12:55.42 | Health | All look |
| 12:56.21 | Health | That's one fantastic thread with a fantastic screenshot! Right krka!? |
| 12:56.32 | DarkImakuni | I did a !toc, then a !trunk, then a /msg !toc to reduce spam, but it hasn't updated the toc data on the wiki to match my changes... unless someone ninja-committed a revert... |
| 12:56.35 | Mikma | Thrae: good job :) |
| 12:58.10 | DarkImakuni | nah, SVN toc is still the same... SVNBot can't update it tho :S |
| 12:59.01 | [FH]Birdemani | so, does alot of UI memory usage impact your FPS? |
| 12:59.31 | krka | omg, best screenshot ever |
| 12:59.37 | krka | the colors, the dimensions, the compression |
| 12:59.38 | krka | wonderful |
| 12:59.42 | PikPikerson | Birdemani: Not that I've noticed. |
| 12:59.47 | PikPikerson | Not just straight up memory usage. |
| 12:59.47 | hiflyer | easy krka, easy :) |
| 13:00.10 | PikPikerson | Lots of event hooks and addon processor usage: Definitely |
| 13:00.35 | DarkImakuni | a lot of UI memory = more garbage collection |
| 13:00.49 | krka | not necessarily |
| 13:01.07 | krka | by just allocating lots of memory, you actually increase the time between gc runs :P |
| 13:01.09 | Health | a lot of UI memory that's actually used != more gc |
| 13:01.14 | PikPikerson | Just having a lot in memory by itself that isn't referenced that often isn't that big a deal. |
| 13:01.19 | DarkImakuni | thats how it was before I dropped Autioneer and ItemSync... or are those to just crap? |
| 13:01.31 | DarkImakuni | s/to/two/ |
| 13:01.48 | Mikma | gosh, i need ammo :( |
| 13:02.40 | Mikma | or wobin can help me too |
| 13:02.48 | Mikma | Wobin: you familiar with EgoCast? |
| 13:02.53 | Wobin | nope |
| 13:03.08 | Mikma | it's [Ammo]'s SelfCast ... ace2 etc. |
| 13:03.11 | Mikma | and the real question |
| 13:03.13 | *** join/#wowace MikkZzz (n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 13:03.21 | Thrae | Mikma: I just recoded EgoCast, what's up? |
| 13:03.22 | oxman | ep_simplecast is better :p |
| 13:03.30 | Mikma | can i use in my addon: IsAddOnLoaded(EgoCast) .. ? |
| 13:04.08 | Galencia | [FH]Birdemani: cheers :) |
| 13:04.12 | Mikma | Thrae: i made AlfCast which is EgoCast with Alt .. and i'm planning on adding a check there that if EgoCast is loaded it won't even bother hooking |
| 13:04.53 | oxman | and ep_simplecast do selfcast with alt (or ctrl :p) |
| 13:04.54 | Mikma | so i was thinking will it work if i use if IsAddOnLoaded(EgoCast) then return end |
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| 13:05.13 | Mikma | oxman: missing my needs 100% |
| 13:06.01 | nevcairiel | Mikma: you should add EgoCast as optdep, so that it loads before alfcast |
| 13:06.01 | Thrae | Mikma: Yeah, or just check if "EgoCast" exists. |
| 13:06.01 | Mikma | nevcairiel: oh yeah, right :) |
| 13:06.02 | Mikma | Thrae: if EgoCast then return end? |
| 13:06.30 | Thrae | Mikma: Yeah, or _G.EgoCast, etc. |
| 13:06.38 | [FH]Birdemani | Mikma: As I said before, I wish there was a better way to selfheal using ego cast while healing MTs |
| 13:06.51 | [FH]Birdemani | any ideas on that? |
| 13:07.02 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: nope not really since i use clickcast |
| 13:07.23 | PikPikerson | clickcast > targeted cast |
| 13:07.29 | PikPikerson | By several thousand percent. |
| 13:07.58 | Thrae | yeah, if you use ClickCast, then you never have to change your target. |
| 13:08.06 | PikPikerson | For one, it allows chaincasting (avoiding global cooldown) while casting on multiple targets. |
| 13:08.15 | PikPikerson | And you can just clickcast on your own unitframe. |
| 13:08.22 | nevcairiel | nothing can avoid global cooldown |
| 13:08.30 | PikPikerson | Yes you can nev. |
| 13:08.31 | [FH]Birdemani | yea, global happens when the cast happens |
| 13:08.34 | Thrae | Well, SelfCast is definately needed for the quickest cast possible on yourself |
| 13:08.51 | PikPikerson | If you chaincast the same spell immediately following (or an insta cast) it doesn't trigger the 1s global cooldown. |
| 13:08.54 | [FH]Birdemani | egocast is amazing in duels and pvp, i love it, nothing is better |
| 13:09.02 | nevcairiel | if i cast an instant spell, i have global cooldown |
| 13:09.09 | *** join/#wowace nuOHEP (n=nuohep@h54.ciscom.ru) |
| 13:09.14 | [FH]Birdemani | Ill check out clique again |
| 13:09.17 | PikPikerson | Following an instant always. |
| 13:09.26 | PikPikerson | If you cast a spell with cast time you can chaincast without gc. |
| 13:09.39 | nevcairiel | if i cast an spell with casttime, the global cooldown starts when the spell cast starts, and i can chaincast with pressing the number keys as well |
| 13:09.43 | PikPikerson | or spell with cast time to instacast will skip gc between but will trigger gc after insta. |
| 13:10.03 | Pucmel | http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/ArticleImages/WoW/turtle2.gif |
| 13:10.16 | PikPikerson | Err. |
| 13:10.22 | DarkImakuni | hehe |
| 13:10.22 | PikPikerson | Ok yea technically you're correct. |
| 13:10.29 | [FH]Birdemani | you sure about that? on beta I hear that talented slam is .5seconds, but with the global cooldown its a waste of points. People on EJ forms talking about how you cant get around it |
| 13:10.37 | PikPikerson | Ok I see what you're saying. |
| 13:10.40 | Wobin | ?? |
| 13:11.01 | PikPikerson | The spell has to be longer than the gc. |
| 13:11.03 | nevcairiel | ive been healing in high-end content for over a year now |
| 13:11.06 | Wobin | actually best addon ever is fastcast |
| 13:11.11 | Wobin | Especially for high latency |
| 13:11.12 | [FH]Birdemani | heh, thats the issue with slam atm pikpik |
| 13:11.16 | DarkImakuni | oh yeah Pucmel just reminded me... (cheers dude :) ) does anyone know what the BE/Eredar mounts are? |
| 13:11.24 | Wobin | Cockatrice? |
| 13:11.30 | nevcairiel | bloodelf get that bird thing |
| 13:11.32 | Pucmel | elephant / cockatrice |
| 13:11.32 | Wobin | And oiliphant |
| 13:11.34 | [FH]Birdemani | wowexposed.de |
| 13:11.39 | [FH]Birdemani | go there and look under mounts |
| 13:11.42 | PikPikerson | Nev is correct about the gc triggering when the spell starts. |
| 13:11.55 | PikPikerson | So as long as the spell cast time is longer than 1s you can chaincast. |
| 13:12.11 | nevcairiel | with or without click casting |
| 13:12.20 | PikPikerson | Yes. |
| 13:12.21 | nevcairiel | some addon doesnt make you a better healer |
| 13:12.22 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 13:12.35 | DarkImakuni | oh dear god |
| 13:12.36 | Wobin | Fastcast does =) |
| 13:12.37 | *** join/#wowace Prophy (n=prophy@cpe-66-65-84-109.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 13:12.42 | nevcairiel | i want a phoenix. |
| 13:12.45 | PikPikerson | As does squishy. |
| 13:13.05 | PikPikerson | But yes, I've seen people with excellent addons that should have improved their performance do nothing. |
| 13:13.14 | DarkImakuni | Blood Elf mount = tallstrider/hippogryph hybrid?? O.o |
| 13:13.26 | PikPikerson | Yes Dark |
| 13:13.49 | DarkImakuni | aww... I want one now :( |
| 13:13.53 | DarkImakuni | they're so pretty |
| 13:14.07 | PikPikerson | Heh. Have you seen the animation? I like how they preen. |
| 13:14.14 | DarkImakuni | not yet |
| 13:14.26 | PikPikerson | I want to see the dranei mount animated. |
| 13:14.28 | nevcairiel | I never used any click casting addon, i select the target i want to heal next while my heal is still casting, and chaincast the next heal on the next target. and i do think i am good at that. |
| 13:14.46 | nevcairiel | altho i am druid, i generally heal MT |
| 13:14.49 | PikPikerson | Nev: That is another excellent method. |
| 13:14.58 | Mikma | lol |
| 13:15.09 | Mikma | i got a tip "it's better to quest and die, than not to quest at all" |
| 13:15.13 | PikPikerson | It kills me when I run into people that don't realize they can change targets as soon as they've started their cast. |
| 13:15.17 | DarkImakuni | dear god the Elekk's are ug-leee |
| 13:15.36 | nevcairiel | some of our priests really are noobs. |
| 13:15.50 | DarkImakuni | that does it! Blood Elf pwns Dranei anyday |
| 13:16.40 | nevcairiel | on thaddius for example, generally priests are supposed to heal their group. yesterday we had only 7 priests, so i got to heal one group, and being a druid thats way harder then as a priest ( ive played both ). and my group always looked better somehow :D |
| 13:17.05 | Mikma | nevcairiel: question. if i wan't to use self:Print , do i have to have AceConsole-2.0? |
| 13:17.09 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:17.18 | Mikma | that sucks. |
| 13:17.24 | Galencia | yup, thats one fo the most basic functions of AceConsole :) |
| 13:17.34 | Wobin | I've always felt sorry for druids in 5man |
| 13:17.41 | Wobin | with their lack of 'fade' |
| 13:17.41 | Mikma | why can't it be a core-feature *wah* |
| 13:17.50 | Galencia | because its related to the console? :) |
| 13:17.56 | nevcairiel | nah its not a problem in 5man, only sucks that you cannot ress |
| 13:18.30 | [FH]Birdemani | try being the only healer in a 5man as a pally, that sucks :/ |
| 13:18.54 | Galencia | [FH]Birdemani: thats not so bad.. once you convince the warrior blessing of light is a good idea |
| 13:19.09 | nevcairiel | me plus a pally can heal a full 10 man ubrs, thats not a problem. |
| 13:19.10 | Galencia | .. which usually takes 2 or 3 hours |
| 13:19.23 | nevcairiel | blizzard should give druids a out-of-combat rezz like priests or pallys have |
| 13:19.27 | [FH]Birdemani | I tried doing kromkrush as a pally with no other healers, couldnt do it |
| 13:19.44 | Galencia | are you holy? |
| 13:19.47 | [FH]Birdemani | yea |
| 13:19.51 | Galencia | using bol? |
| 13:19.57 | [FH]Birdemani | yes |
| 13:20.02 | [FH]Birdemani | wasnt an issue keeping the group up |
| 13:20.02 | Galencia | shame :( |
| 13:20.04 | nevcairiel | mhm kromkrush, he is quite hard, but it should work |
| 13:20.13 | [FH]Birdemani | was more keeping the MT topped off at the same time |
| 13:20.18 | [FH]Birdemani | well, Im a warrior first |
| 13:20.21 | [FH]Birdemani | the pally part is new to me |
| 13:20.26 | *** part/#wowace KrteK (n=KrteK@dhcp-83-219-107-102.customers.tvtnet.ch) |
| 13:20.46 | nevcairiel | i think i would hate re-buffing every 15 minutes |
| 13:21.24 | [FH]Birdemani | the buffing annoys me more after 1-offs die along the way |
| 13:21.45 | DarkImakuni | why can't Blood Elves be druids? :( |
| 13:22.06 | krka | because they aren't in touch with nature? |
| 13:22.12 | nevcairiel | right |
| 13:22.17 | DarkImakuni | true |
| 13:22.20 | krka | rtfl |
| 13:22.35 | nevcairiel | if you consider lore, only male nightelfs are supposed to be druids. |
| 13:22.44 | Mikma | oh man |
| 13:22.52 | nevcairiel | ( i play a female nightelf druid .. meh .. ) |
| 13:23.01 | nevcairiel | but blizzard couldnt do another class only for one side |
| 13:23.03 | Mikma | i can't even get a longer time in UIErrorFrame working |
| 13:23.26 | phyber | ~comfort Mikma |
| 13:23.31 | purl | There, there, Mikma. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 13:23.33 | Angeris | eem, i did something to xad and is suspended |
| 13:23.39 | Mikma | well, phuck that it's good |
| 13:24.47 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12978 10AlfCast/ (AlfCast.lua AlfCast.toc): AlfCast: added a EgoCast check. If EgoCast found will not hook functions |
| 13:25.06 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/AlfCast |
| 13:25.20 | Mikma | SVNBot: thanx babeh |
| 13:25.28 | nevcairiel | mhm i really like my one bar being bartender_circled and all the other with dreamlayout |
| 13:25.47 | Thrae | !notes AlfCast |
| 13:25.47 | SVNBot | AlfCast Notes: Alt-SelfCast based on EgoCast || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/AlfCast |
| 13:26.13 | Mikma | hmm |
| 13:26.19 | Mikma | i think i will add a auto-disable in :D |
| 13:27.57 | CIA-11 | 03darkimakuni * r12979 10FuBar_ToFu/FuBar_ToFu.toc: |
| 13:27.57 | CIA-11 | FuBar_ToFu: |
| 13:27.57 | CIA-11 | - Touched the .toc for Wiki updating goodness |
| 13:28.20 | phyber | someone on the EU Interface forum has an issue with FuBar disappearing when he enabled Bartender2. |
| 13:28.23 | phyber | heh |
| 13:28.34 | Mikma | lol |
| 13:28.38 | Mikma | good for him |
| 13:28.42 | Thrae | DarkImakuni: You don't need to touch the toc to update the wiki |
| 13:28.48 | Mikma | will keep him occupied for some time |
| 13:28.59 | phyber | yea :D |
| 13:29.02 | DarkImakuni | bah :P |
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| 13:29.49 | DarkImakuni | I thought SVNBot updated the Wiki with every commit... :S |
| 13:30.06 | DarkImakuni | lern2bot... :P |
| 13:30.21 | Thrae | Only commits with a toc change, but right now it might conflict since I'm updating ALL trunk |
| 13:34.40 | DarkImakuni | okie dokie |
| 13:34.44 | Mikma | lol |
| 13:34.48 | Mikma | this is weird |
| 13:35.05 | Mikma | error("|cff00ff33EgoCast loaded. AlfCast will be disabled on next reload.") |
| 13:35.06 | Mikma | return |
| 13:35.14 | Mikma | and Bartender2 stops from working :D |
| 13:37.25 | DarkImakuni | o.O |
| 13:38.35 | Thrae | I bet you're going to blame that on SVNBot ;) |
| 13:38.39 | phyber | people in my guilds forums found the BombayTV thing again. |
| 13:38.40 | phyber | http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/play_uk.php?id=1671734 |
| 13:38.53 | DarkImakuni | ~blame SVNBot |
| 13:38.59 | purl | ACTION blames SVNBot (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 13:39.04 | Thrae | Mikma: Why even bother with the disable anyway? Why would people use both AlfCast and EgoCast? |
| 13:40.20 | oxman | because egocast don't work with key modifier |
| 13:40.27 | oxman | ep_simplecast yep ;p |
| 13:40.30 | Thrae | ah |
| 13:42.27 | oxman | aggro notifier in praid revisited works fine |
| 13:42.36 | phyber | http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=700 |
| 13:42.39 | oxman | maybe i must change the color for this, i'll see |
| 13:42.40 | phyber | ^ more dots t-shirt |
| 13:42.48 | oxman | i've three colors : selected, aggro, selected+aggro |
| 13:46.26 | phyber | DarkImakuni: yup. work is great :p |
| 13:46.52 | DarkImakuni | :P |
| 13:52.22 | Galencia | XAD has a funky bug if you try to apply oil to your offhand |
| 13:52.32 | Galencia | you can end up destroying your off hand if you arent careful :) |
| 13:52.57 | DarkImakuni | whoops :) |
| 13:53.26 | Thrae | People that oil their hands are weird. |
| 13:54.01 | haste | ~moredots |
| 13:54.10 | purl | NOW HANDLE IT!! |
| 13:54.27 | DarkImakuni | lol haste :D |
| 13:54.58 | haste | Only seconds untill I can watch the final episoe of Ergo Proxy! :3 |
| 13:55.14 | DarkImakuni | whats that? |
| 13:55.35 | haste | Anime |
| 13:55.39 | phyber | the episode where they fall in love and then one of them dies? |
| 13:55.52 | oxman | does winaceupdater work fine ? |
| 13:56.42 | haste | http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5115 :3 |
| 13:56.51 | vhaarr | add\\Leialyn: wassap, just got home from work. |
| 13:57.25 | haste | phyber, I'll read the full sentence in 20min |
| 13:57.52 | phyber | haste: no spoilers. I've never watched it. ;) |
| 13:58.04 | phyber | just wondered if you'd react. :D |
| 13:58.04 | add\\Leialyn | 2(vhaarr2): ah got it updated by nevca... and was curious about what you meant with your changelog comment on Kel'Thuzad :o |
| 13:58.17 | vhaarr | add\\Leialyn: please don't use colors |
| 13:58.25 | haste | phyber, I'm able to understand when I should stop readin regarding spoilers :p |
| 13:58.25 | vhaarr | add\\Leialyn: Did you translate to deDE? |
| 13:58.33 | add\\Leialyn | ya kinda |
| 13:58.45 | vhaarr | well don't copy/paste enUS stuff to your translation |
| 13:58.45 | add\\Leialyn | and what colors you mean ? |
| 13:58.50 | add\\Leialyn | ah |
| 13:58.57 | add\\Leialyn | hmmm |
| 13:59.04 | vhaarr | it falls back to enUS automatically if a string doesn't exist. |
| 13:59.26 | vhaarr | so copying |detonate_cmd = "detonate"| to deDE is useless |
| 13:59.46 | add\\Leialyn | yes yes I took this out |
| 13:59.52 | vhaarr | no you didn't, I did |
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| 14:00.14 | add\\Leialyn | well sry, on horsemen and sapph its out |
| 14:00.17 | biosclan | hiyas |
| 14:00.21 | vhaarr | good |
| 14:00.35 | add\\Leialyn | and I wanted to tell you about the Sync error ^^ |
| 14:00.41 | vhaarr | ah |
| 14:00.45 | vhaarr | well I see it was fixed already |
| 14:00.48 | add\\Leialyn | sending "Detonate" and seaching for "Detonation" :PPP |
| 14:01.05 | add\\Leialyn | ya, found it and tested it on Kel |
| 14:01.12 | add\\Leialyn | works fine |
| 14:01.17 | biosclan | anyone know what dependency i need for AceTimer and Timex? both say dependency missing, please help |
| 14:01.26 | haste | biosclan, Ace |
| 14:01.33 | haste | biosclan, and you should use Chronometer now I guess |
| 14:01.46 | biosclan | Chronometer? |
| 14:01.47 | phyber | yup. Chronometer is really nice. |
| 14:01.52 | biosclan | link? |
| 14:02.03 | haste | wowace.com/files ? |
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| 14:04.41 | Mikma | Thrae: the thing is i have to include it in my ui-pack what i and my friends are using. and my friends use alt-selfcast while i use selfcast |
| 14:05.06 | biosclan | thanks for info :) |
| 14:05.22 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12980 10AlfCast/AlfCast.lua: AlfCast: will be disabled by default is EgoCast is found |
| 14:06.26 | Iceroth | eh, what's going on, why am i getting "svn: No such revision 12978" |
| 14:06.35 | vhaarr | because tortoisesvn sucks balls |
| 14:06.41 | vhaarr | or svn 1.4 |
| 14:06.44 | vhaarr | I'm not sure which |
| 14:06.45 | Mikma | Iceroth: new commits while checkouting. recheckout :P |
| 14:06.48 | DarkImakuni | what does Chronometer do? |
| 14:06.59 | phyber | timer bars for DoTs and stuff. |
| 14:07.00 | Mikma | DarkImakuni: AceTimer ace2'd |
| 14:07.04 | Iceroth | checkouting? i'm doing update |
| 14:07.13 | Mikma | Iceroth: same thing |
| 14:07.15 | DarkImakuni | cool :) |
| 14:07.16 | Mikma | update again then |
| 14:07.31 | biosclan | well loading up chronometer gave tons of errors >< |
| 14:07.38 | Mikma | lies! |
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| 14:07.53 | haste | you're doing it wrong! |
| 14:07.54 | Talyn600m | chronometer has been working fine for me the whole time |
| 14:08.09 | Mikma | Talyn600m: same, same... |
| 14:08.11 | biosclan | hehe, how i'm I doing it wrong, just put it in the addons heh |
| 14:08.14 | Mikma | haste: hi hastey.pastey |
| 14:08.45 | phyber | biosclan: you can't just expect Chronometer to put out. you have to take it to a movie and buy it dinner first. |
| 14:09.10 | phyber | also, the latest zip is missing externals. |
| 14:09.48 | vhaarr | ckknight_: You around? |
| 14:10.21 | biosclan | ooo |
| 14:10.21 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12981 10Catalyst/Catalyst.toc: Catalyst: .toc version update. Yes, still works for some people |
| 14:10.35 | haste | no, it doesn't work for some people :p |
| 14:10.42 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12982 10IDCard/IDCard.toc: IDCard: .toc version update |
| 14:10.46 | DarkImakuni | I still use Catalyst and it works for me :) |
| 14:10.49 | Mikma | haste: "works for all people" |
| 14:11.00 | CIA-11 | 03phyber * r12983 10Chronometer/Chronometer.toc: |
| 14:11.00 | CIA-11 | Chronometer: |
| 14:11.00 | CIA-11 | - /target TOC |
| 14:11.00 | CIA-11 | - /prod |
| 14:11.00 | CIA-11 | - Make a new zip file with all of the externals, please. |
| 14:11.01 | [FH]Birdemani | i thought it was redundant now |
| 14:11.05 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/IDCard |
| 14:11.10 | [FH]Birdemani | catalyst is worth using still? |
| 14:11.11 | Mikma | yes that's what i thought so too until i tested it :) |
| 14:11.21 | Health | [FH]Birdemani: No. |
| 14:11.30 | Mikma | i would say yes. |
| 14:11.31 | DarkImakuni | rofl phyber :D |
| 14:11.34 | [FH]Birdemani | well, at least Im not confused now |
| 14:11.37 | haste | The events that Catalyst stop only fires ONCE during a loading screen |
| 14:11.38 | Mikma | speeds up my loadings |
| 14:11.54 | haste | and most times, not at all :p |
| 14:12.04 | phyber | biosclan: ok, get that new .zip file. it has all of the externals now. |
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| 14:12.31 | Health | I load so fast I couldn't care! |
| 14:12.34 | biosclan | arg just got the older one lol |
| 14:12.38 | biosclan | thanks the old one works |
| 14:12.44 | biosclan | now to delete it and get the new one hehe |
| 14:12.51 | phyber | -r12983.zip is the new one ;)( |
| 14:13.02 | [FH]Birdemani | well, I moved to !!!libs today to speed up my 25second load time |
| 14:13.04 | DarkImakuni | how much RAM does your machine have, Health? :) |
| 14:13.24 | biosclan | phyber : hehe Chronometer-r12932.zip was the one that i had issues with |
| 14:13.27 | biosclan | getting new one now |
| 14:13.37 | Health | DarkImakuni: 2GB PC |
| 14:13.40 | Galencia | why does fubartender2 have to be different with naming schemes :p |
| 14:13.47 | Health | PC2-5400 |
| 14:13.59 | DarkImakuni | ooo gief now kkthxbye |
| 14:14.38 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: lol |
| 14:14.42 | mjc | Galencia: still starts with fubar |
| 14:15.09 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: that's pretty nice.. i was impressed with my 5 seconds but you beat me |
| 14:15.10 | mjc | and has bartender2 in it |
| 14:15.19 | mjc | what more do you want? |
| 14:15.50 | CIA-11 | 03mikma 07Thiana * r12984 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.toc: Mendeleev ace2: .toc version update |
| 14:16.19 | Galencia | well |
| 14:16.26 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Mendeleev |
| 14:16.32 | Galencia | you look at the big list in svn and see fubar_* and then right at the end is fubartender2 :p |
| 14:16.45 | Mikma | Galencia: it DID caught your attention did it? ;) |
| 14:16.48 | Mikma | that's the whole idea |
| 14:16.58 | Health | Does the WinAceUpdate use the .toc file or the changelog? |
| 14:17.15 | Galencia | Mikma: actually no i was confused for at least 10 seconds :( |
| 14:17.33 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12985 10Teknicolor_tab/Teknicolor_tab.toc: Teknicolor_tab: .toc version update |
| 14:17.52 | Mikma | Galencia: and it got your attention because you are talking about it here |
| 14:17.59 | Galencia | :) |
| 14:18.37 | Galencia | still looks rediclously out of place :) |
| 14:19.54 | DarkImakuni | so does ItemRackFu |
| 14:20.23 | Mikma | Galencia: aaaaand? |
| 14:20.38 | Galencia | Mikma: :( |
| 14:20.43 | vhaarr | I still think it should be called FuBar_TenderMe2 |
| 14:21.04 | DarkImakuni | Aha! Mikma! I understand your wicked plan! You are updating the .toc's in order to bump the revision number and ninja 13000 from us! :P |
| 14:21.05 | Galencia | btw, having svn checkouts in my addons directory for all my ace2 mods.. good idea/bad idea? :p |
| 14:21.16 | Mikma | DarkImakuni: oh, good idea |
| 14:21.30 | DarkImakuni | dammit |
| 14:21.32 | DarkImakuni | :P |
| 14:21.33 | Mikma | Galencia: that's what i do |
| 14:21.52 | nevcairiel | ~seen maia |
| 14:22.06 | purl | maia <n=maia@chello084112137081.14.11.vie.surfer.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20h 15m 51s ago, saying: 'I've never seen that setting in swstats. hmm.'. |
| 14:22.07 | Galencia | ive started doing it with "omit externals" turned on |
| 14:22.07 | DarkImakuni | well, only 15 revs to go :P |
| 14:22.07 | vhaarr | Galencia: bad idea if you're not a developer, use the zip updated. |
| 14:22.07 | Galencia | my wow is so gonna explode tonight |
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| 14:22.27 | Galencia | vhaarr: for any other reason than it unnecesarily stresses the svn server? |
| 14:22.33 | vhaarr | no |
| 14:22.41 | Galencia | (which is itself a good reason) |
| 14:25.23 | Galencia | well my theory is i only intend to do it once in a blue moon and i may even poke around some stuff |
| 14:25.50 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12986 10/trunk/ (FuBar_Bartender2Fu/ FuBartender2/): Bartender2Fu: Moo. Are you happy now? |
| 14:25.57 | Galencia | Mikma: /cheer |
| 14:26.09 | Talyn600m | anyone able to help with a fubarplugin icon? |
| 14:26.18 | Mikma | Talyn600m: look from ex.FuBartender2 |
| 14:26.33 | [FH]Birdemani | Alright, ive been trying to troubleshoot where this is coming from, yet I'm not quite sure. It happens when I mouse over the "CHANNELS" button in the chat menu |
| 14:26.40 | [FH]Birdemani | and it looks like this spam: FuBarPlugin-2.0\\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:798: attempt to index field `frame' (a nil |
| 14:26.40 | [FH]Birdemani | value)\nFuBarPlugin-2.0\\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:798: in function |
| 14:26.40 | [FH]Birdemani | `OnEmbedInitialize'\nAceAddon-2.0\\AceAddon-2.0.lua:223: |
| 14:26.40 | [FH]Birdemani | in function |
| 14:26.40 | [FH]Birdemani | `InitializeAddon'\nAceAddon-2.0\\AceAddon-2.0.lua:110: |
| 14:26.41 | [FH]Birdemani | in function |
| 14:26.43 | [FH]Birdemani | `obj_method'\nAceEvent-2.0\\AceEvent-2.0.lua:244: in function |
| 14:26.45 | [FH]Birdemani | `TriggerEvent'\nAceEvent-2.0\\AceEvent-2.0.lua:894: in function <...ce\\AddOns\\!!!Libs\\Libs\\AceEvent-2.0\\AceEvent-2.0.lua:886>\n\n |
| 14:26.54 | Talyn600m | i have looked at some examples and it's not working, i'm missing something somewhere |
| 14:27.17 | Mikma | [FH]Birdemani: what chat-addon? |
| 14:27.34 | [FH]Birdemani | nothing but what Nurfed does |
| 14:27.36 | [FH]Birdemani | oo |
| 14:27.39 | [FH]Birdemani | and TheLowdown |
| 14:28.59 | vhaarr | [FH]Birdemani: Don't spam. |
| 14:29.04 | [FH]Birdemani | k |
| 14:29.13 | Talyn600m | http://wowace.pastey.net/1266 is my fubarplugin code and the errors i'm getting |
| 14:29.19 | nevcairiel | only spam in privmsg to vhaarr |
| 14:29.20 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:30.24 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r12987 10FuBar_Bartender2Fu/ (4 files): Bartender2Fu: Rest of changes |
| 14:30.31 | vhaarr | [FH]Birdemani: Look at Talyn600m, use pastey next time. |
| 14:30.31 | Mikma | there ya go. now stop the whine. |
| 14:30.40 | Mikma | !trunk FuBar_Bartender2Fu |
| 14:30.44 | SVNBot | The latest revision of FuBar_Bartender2Fu is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/FuBar_Bartender2Fu/ |
| 14:30.47 | Mikma | !toc FuBar_Bartender2Fu |
| 14:30.49 | [FH]Birdemani | didnt know of pastey before, will use it |
| 14:30.50 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/FuBar_Bartender2Fu |
| 14:31.16 | nevcairiel | oO you renamed my pretty addon |
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| 14:32.17 | vhaarr | ag`: Finally! :P The StickyFrames code I added to agUF doesn't work 100%, and I can't figure it out. |
| 14:32.30 | ag` | what's wrong? |
| 14:32.36 | DarkImakuni_AFK | ~welcome ag` |
| 14:32.44 | purl | Howdy, ag`! |
| 14:32.44 | vhaarr | Did you try it yet? |
| 14:32.49 | Talyn600m | oh and i'm getting tons of errors from that agUF_Banzai plugin, i don't think you wrote that though |
| 14:32.54 | ag` | No, just got home from work, and I'm pretty wasted =) |
| 14:33.04 | Galencia | Mikma: /hug |
| 14:33.12 | ag` | Talyn600m, nope, that's not me =) |
| 14:33.17 | vhaarr | Talyn600m: I wrote aUF_Banzai, and it's not ready yet. |
| 14:33.27 | vhaarr | Talyn600m: Note how it's not posted on the forum or anywhere at all. |
| 14:33.40 | Talyn600m | actually just one error but it's every few seconds |
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| 14:34.28 | vhaarr | I know. |
| 14:34.31 | DarkImakuni_AFK | there's two of these things? o.O |
| 14:34.47 | Mikma | !toc FuBar_Bartender2Fu |
| 14:34.53 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/FuBar_Bartender2Fu |
| 14:35.06 | vhaarr | ag`: Anyway it seems I can't get all the ag unit frames into the StickyFrames table. |
| 14:35.20 | vhaarr | ag`: I iterate all aUF.subgroups and add the frames and add .lastFrame and .anchor |
| 14:35.43 | ag` | I'm not familiar with how StickyFrames work |
| 14:35.48 | ag` | so I don't know waht you need |
| 14:35.50 | vhaarr | you don't need to be |
| 14:35.59 | vhaarr | I need all the unit frames that agUF has on screen |
| 14:36.05 | vhaarr | and put them in a table |
| 14:36.25 | Talyn600m | agUF doesn't have MT frames does it? |
| 14:36.30 | mjc | o |
| 14:36.32 | mjc | no |
| 14:36.52 | ag` | vhaarr, what do you need lastFrame for? |
| 14:37.03 | vhaarr | ag`: I have no idea what it is, I'm just trying to get all the frames. |
| 14:37.20 | ag` | iterate through aUF.units |
| 14:37.24 | vhaarr | ag`: and I inspected the aUF object with tekProber and saw .lastFrame, so I added it. |
| 14:37.37 | vhaarr | ag`: I also need the group headings and stuff. |
| 14:37.53 | ag` | aUF.units.*objectName*.frame is the unit frames |
| 14:38.04 | Mikma | Tekkub: neat, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBar_Bartender2Fu <- look at the toc-data |
| 14:38.07 | ag` | aUF.groups.*objectName*.anchor |
| 14:38.12 | ag` | is the group headers |
| 14:38.20 | vhaarr | excellent |
| 14:38.24 | ag` | so do |
| 14:38.25 | vhaarr | ag`: and that's all, I guess? |
| 14:38.38 | vhaarr | ag`: well I already have code for it |
| 14:38.42 | ag` | "for k,v in pairs(aUF.units) do" |
| 14:38.49 | vhaarr | ag`: I already checked it in :P |
| 14:38.54 | ag` | ok |
| 14:38.58 | ag` | and then it is v.frame |
| 14:38.59 | krka | or: |
| 14:39.00 | vhaarr | ag`: it's wrapped in |if StickyFrames then| anyway |
| 14:39.07 | JoshBorke | wow, you guys do a lot of commiting |
| 14:39.08 | krka | for k,v in next,aUF.units do |
| 14:39.23 | ag` | ok :) |
| 14:39.30 | JoshBorke | there were 100 commits overnight |
| 14:39.36 | ag` | krka, and that's for lua 5.1 too?:) |
| 14:39.46 | JoshBorke | sorry, 90 commits |
| 14:39.46 | krka | yes |
| 14:40.01 | ag` | goodie |
| 14:40.14 | ag` | guess it's a matter of taste what to use, I think they do the same right |
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| 14:41.24 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1837.msg48868#msg48868 |
| 14:41.25 | Health | krka is in love with lua |
| 14:41.32 | Mikma | Galencia: you might wan't to look that url |
| 14:41.54 | DarkImakuni | ~seen Kayde |
| 14:42.21 | purl | DarkImakuni: i haven't seen 'kayde' |
| 14:42.21 | vhaarr | ag`: I also cleaned up some tabs at EOL, some indenting and localized the missing parts. |
| 14:42.21 | Galencia | Mikma: hahaha |
| 14:42.21 | Mikma | :D |
| 14:42.28 | krka | better lua than php :P |
| 14:42.28 | DarkImakuni | aww :( |
| 14:42.58 | Health | krka, the author liked hiflyer's code! Check the thread! |
| 14:43.30 | Azurewrath | ag`: mhm.. in agUF, any bug known that lets the playerframe health turn green again for some frames, even if it should be yellowish or red or sth. because of low health? Had that yesterday... |
| 14:44.05 | krka | cool |
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| 14:44.44 | DarkImakuni | only 3 ace1 addons left... :( |
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| 14:44.53 | CIA-11 | 03xuerian * r12988 10XLoot/XLoot.toc: XLoot: Removed accidental Gratuity reference from TOC, still not awake enough to add in usability coloring... |
| 14:44.59 | nevcairiel | DarkImakuni: so convert them |
| 14:45.00 | ag` | Azurewrath, yeah I've noticed it myself for a long time, just haven't had time to fix it |
| 14:45.03 | Mikma | DarkImakuni: 1 here :D |
| 14:45.08 | Mikma | 1=0 ffs |
| 14:45.14 | ag` | vhaarr, sounds good |
| 14:45.20 | Azurewrath | ag`: ok :) |
| 14:46.03 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/XLoot |
| 14:46.11 | DarkImakuni | nevcairiel: I would but I'm too nooby to understand how Visor works, and I'll more than likely get yelled at by Kayde if I steal CritterInFu |
| 14:49.00 | Galencia | ag`: im almost tempted to add the abilities to choose which parties to display in aguf's raid frames.. is that something youve considered putting in? |
| 14:49.46 | ag` | Galencia, it's been suggested yes but it isn't something I've needed myself so I haven't started any work on it |
| 14:50.01 | Galencia | well i had a quick look, doesnt seem all that hard |
| 14:50.05 | Galencia | i might do it if i get 5 minutes :) |
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| 14:50.39 | ag` | haven't really thought about how I would go around doing it but it should be done in a non-hackish way so it works for all kinds of subgroups, this means group1,group2,rgoup3... or a specific class, or a specific classification (healer/tank/dps) |
| 14:51.20 | Galencia | aye. |
| 14:51.34 | Galencia | tho i might go down the hackish route at first to prove to myself i can do it :) |
| 14:51.51 | ag` | sure, and you can post that patch for others to use it |
| 14:52.06 | ag` | I only merge stuff though that's future proof though :) |
| 14:52.11 | Galencia | indeedy |
| 14:52.27 | ag` | ok, taking a 30minute nap |
| 14:52.30 | Galencia | and for what i really want id have to do it the right way, since its the flexibility that would be really useful |
| 14:52.37 | ag` | yeah |
| 14:52.58 | ag` | It's something people request and it is possible to do with CTRA and blizzard raid frames, so sure... |
| 14:53.02 | ag` | I can put it in |
| 14:53.08 | ag` | if you bring me the patch =) |
| 14:53.10 | Galencia | theres only one raid frame mod ive ever seen that can do it, and its that really weird raid frame mod that someone asked money for.. |
| 14:53.18 | ag` | oh? |
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| 14:53.27 | ag` | I thought CTRA and Blizz raid could do it |
| 14:53.35 | Galencia | they can, but only "group1, 2, 3" etc |
| 14:53.38 | ag` | there you can select which groups you wnat |
| 14:53.41 | ag` | yeah ok |
| 14:53.43 | Galencia | what i want is being able to define my own groups, as well as that |
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| 14:54.03 | ag` | in aguf it is possible to define groups |
| 14:54.07 | ag` | but not by the user |
| 14:54.18 | Galencia | maybe i can hook into that somehow |
| 14:54.19 | ag` | it's hardcoded,the options, if you noticed that |
| 14:54.47 | Galencia | i think im going to spend the rest of the afternoon looking at it :) |
| 14:54.51 | Galencia | after i fix this work-thing |
| 14:55.04 | ag` | yeah, have fun... time to take a nap for me |
| 14:55.06 | ag` | bbl |
| 14:55.18 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12990 10Chronometer/Data/Shaman.lua: Chronometer: fix shaman typo |
| 14:55.25 | [FH]Birdemani | http://wowace.pastey.net/1332 Not only did I spam before, I spammed the wrong thing. I can't chase down what mod is causing this and any help would be appreciated |
| 15:02.35 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@c85-196-101-98.static.sdsl.no) |
| 15:02.45 | JoshBorke | Galencia: ozraid |
| 15:03.06 | Talyn600m | ag`: does aguf pick up FD? |
| 15:04.05 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-166.handshake.de) |
| 15:04.36 | DarkImakuni | ~welcome Elkano |
| 15:04.37 | purl | Welcome to the party, Elkano! |
| 15:04.42 | Elkano | ~poke mjc |
| 15:04.43 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind mjc, pokes mjc repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 15:04.46 | mjc | ebb's slash commands need to be more ace2ish |
| 15:05.02 | Elkano | well ebb2's will ^^ |
| 15:05.05 | mjc | ah |
| 15:05.07 | mjc | nice |
| 15:05.27 | XLVII | Who's a reputable DVD Writer / Rewriter manufacturer? |
| 15:05.34 | mjc | plextor |
| 15:05.34 | Elkano | since I'm planing to use an AceOptions table |
| 15:05.38 | Mikma | !trunk XLootMonitor |
| 15:05.40 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 15:05.42 | SVNBot | The latest revision of XLootMonitor is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/XLootMonitor/ |
| 15:06.15 | mjc | Elkano: ebb1 also seems to update kinda often ;P |
| 15:06.20 | Iceroth | Elkano, dunno if you have plans or anything but something i'd like to see would be separate bars for debuffs that _really_ make the difference, like fear, stun, silence |
| 15:06.38 | Elkano | well, mjc, it updates as often as Blizzards frames did |
| 15:06.51 | Galencia | JoshBorke: interesting :) |
| 15:06.54 | Galencia | i still prefer aguf tho :) |
| 15:07.13 | Elkano | btw, I <3 debugstack... http://www.wowinterface.com/portal_admin.php?id=24&a=viewbugreport&bugid=2263 |
| 15:07.26 | DarkImakuni | zomg 10 revs left lolz |
| 15:07.34 | Mikma | "As for the locals-2.0 and locals-2.1 it's simply becuase I wrote XAD to use 2.1 wihtout realizing the libs I was using where still using and needed 2.0. Once they get upgraded to 2.1 I can remove 2.0 from XAD." |
| 15:07.40 | JoshBorke | Galencia: just as another example that can do multiple stuff |
| 15:07.59 | Galencia | JoshBorke: ye, thats the kinda stuff im talking about |
| 15:08.06 | DarkImakuni | Elkano: Your link = "You are not the owner,team member or an admin of this portal. |
| 15:08.22 | Galencia | JoshBorke: perhaps not quite on that scale, though |
| 15:08.28 | Iceroth | what's xlootmonitor? |
| 15:08.33 | Elkano | hmm... |
| 15:08.40 | Mikma | !info XLootMonitor |
| 15:09.03 | Elkano | http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=24&a=viewbug&bugid=2263 <-- try thisone |
| 15:09.08 | mjc | we need a CTRT replacement. :( |
| 15:09.10 | Iceroth | found the post |
| 15:09.12 | Mikma | ## Notes: You've heard of Battlechat? Bah. Squishy? HAH. Loot needs it's own monitor! |
| 15:09.15 | Mikma | ## Version: 0.1.way.too.fucking.many.tests |
| 15:10.13 | mjc | heh |
| 15:10.15 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12991 10Chronometer/ (Core/Chronometer-Locale.lua Data/Mage.lua): Chronometer: Add Winter's Chill and try to make Impact/Ignite more accurate. |
| 15:10.33 | Galencia | mjc: that would be kinda neat, though i dunno what youd make better about it |
| 15:12.27 | [FH]Birdemani | when you mouse over a ag raid frame would it be possible to see what group they are in? |
| 15:13.37 | mjc | Galencia: memory saving, load on demand, etc. |
| 15:15.14 | DarkImakuni | Elk's new link works :) |
| 15:15.42 | Galencia | mjc: dont really see what you could split off from it.. its pretty basic iirc |
| 15:16.20 | Mikma | how is teksupport supposed to work? |
| 15:16.33 | Xuerian | Iceroth: the loot monitor is a loot monitor in the fact that it catches "You pickup xxxx" or "XXX recieves XXXX" messages, sticks them in rows that fade after a timeout (Forogt and left the timeout at 5 for resting instead of 20 fyi), and each item gets pushed onto the bottom (or top when I get reverse growth done) of the stack. It currently shows [Itemicon] [classcoloredname] [amount] [item], and shows the item information on mouseover |
| 15:18.42 | Mikma | oh now i get it |
| 15:18.51 | Mikma | it's supposed to enable with S&D. that's neat |
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| 15:22.13 | DarkImakuni | ~seen Tain |
| 15:22.44 | purl | tain is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 8h 54m 47s) #wowace (1d 8h 54m 47s). Has said a total of 29 messages. Is idling for 12h 29m 31s, last said: 'I already added in Tain_UsedYourMom()'. |
| 15:22.56 | DarkImakuni | lol |
| 15:23.04 | DarkImakuni | ~botsnack |
| 15:23.04 | purl | DarkImakuni: thanks |
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| 15:30.38 | DarkImakuni | hm... warlock or hunter? |
| 15:31.28 | deci | both |
| 15:31.31 | deci | warhunter |
| 15:31.39 | DarkImakuni | hehe |
| 15:31.51 | phyber | huntlock |
| 15:31.55 | deci | for what? an alt to goof around with? |
| 15:32.28 | DarkImakuni | just wondering what class I should make my Blood Elf |
| 15:32.30 | deci | hunters are pretty straight forward and mind numbing to play and warlocks are pretty fun to multitask with in pvp |
| 15:33.09 | Xuerian | Lock. |
| 15:33.13 | deci | i'd rather chop my feet off and put the bloody stumps into bags of salt than play a hunter again, so i might be a bit biased |
| 15:33.26 | DarkImakuni | lol deci |
| 15:33.33 | deci | :) |
| 15:33.33 | DarkImakuni | warlock it is then :P |
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| 15:34.10 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 15:34.17 | Galencia | [Ammo]: /hug |
| 15:34.30 | DarkImakuni | ~welcome MoonWolf :) |
| 15:34.32 | purl | [all in unison] Hi, MoonWolf :)! |
| 15:34.39 | MoonWolf | rofl |
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| 15:40.40 | Wobin | I can't wait that long P |
| 15:40.42 | Wobin | I have to sleep =P |
| 15:41.28 | DarkImakuni | is it 1am in oz now? |
| 15:41.37 | Wobin | nearly 2 |
| 15:42.12 | Xuerian | Ok, for my sanity, svn automatically substitutes the correct version for the "$Revision: ##### $" in any comitted file, or did I miss a handy page explaining this? |
| 15:42.29 | Wobin | Xuerian: only if you set the svn:keyword for the file |
| 15:42.38 | DarkImakuni | tell you what, you get some sleep and I'll commit revision 13000 for you :) |
| 15:43.30 | Azurewrath | haste: mind if i add the Charcoal Texture to oCB2? |
| 15:44.35 | DarkImakuni | Xeurian: set svn:keyword to Date Revision |
| 15:44.57 | Xuerian | Heh.... thanks, DarkImakuni. |
| 15:45.53 | DarkImakuni | if you are using Tortoise, then you can set the keyword in the Properties window |
| 15:48.18 | CIA-11 | 03thiana * r12992 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (Cooldown.lua CooldownLocals.lua): FuBar_tcgTradeskills: Added scanning of tradeskill windows for cooldowns. |
| 15:48.58 | DarkImakuni | right click -> Properties -> Subversion -> Properties... -> Add... -> type 'svn:keyword' in the Property Name box -> type 'Date Revision' in the big box below -> OK |
| 15:48.59 | CIA-11 | 03thiana * r12993 10tcgMobResists/ (Core.lua tcgMobResists.toc): tcgMobResists: Tracks full resists as well now, and added options for only displaying tooltip if Ctrl/Alt is held down (/tcgmr) |
| 15:49.35 | CIA-11 | 03thiana * r12994 10FuBar_uFriends/libs/: FuBar_uFriends: externals |
| 15:49.39 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/tcgMobResists |
| 15:49.42 | Xuerian | Heheheh yeah got it finally, thanks a bunch =) ... Comitting in a second, wanted people to be able to say "It's rev xxxx" so I can say "update! ><" :P |
| 15:49.46 | [FH]Birdemani | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=0AE6EED033EB0A424CA8AB37DA4DE377?topicId=29928086&sid=1 |
| 15:49.52 | [FH]Birdemani | hunter talents within the week |
| 15:50.02 | Galencia | "maybe" |
| 15:50.08 | oxman | so the new priest talent |
| 15:50.09 | oxman | =') |
| 15:50.49 | CIA-11 | 03thiana 07Rophy * r12995 10MCP/ (MCP.lua MCP.xml): MCP: Added an 'Unload' set button, increased number of available sets from 6 to 10. |
| 15:51.05 | Xuerian | Unload? o_0 |
| 15:51.05 | DarkImakuni | looks like Thiana's going for gold :) |
| 15:51.15 | Thiana | Nope, that was the last one :) |
| 15:51.34 | Thiana | Besides, I'll leave the r13000 competition to the boys. |
| 15:51.51 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 15:51.52 | CIA-11 | 03xuerian * r12996 10XLoot/ (XLoot.lua XLoot.toc XLootOptions.lua): XLoot: Fixed TOC issues. Added revision display (thanks DarkImakuni for the KeywordsForDummies talk ^_~) |
| 15:52.10 | DarkImakuni | lol :D |
| 15:52.23 | nevcairiel | actually, i dont have anything to commit |
| 15:52.27 | nevcairiel | i could touch some .toc =P |
| 15:52.30 | Thiana | Xuerian: ie, unmark the addons. So you can unmark 'Raid' addons for example instead of removing all, then adding 'core', 'class' addons. |
| 15:52.51 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/XLoot |
| 15:53.02 | Mikma | did ora2 support for PlayerTargets? |
| 15:53.18 | Xuerian | Ahh. I see, I think :P Must try it out. -- DarkImakuni, lol, seriously thanks XD - nevcairiel: that sounds dirty. |
| 15:53.33 | nevcairiel | Mikma: no not yet |
| 15:53.48 | DarkImakuni | Xeurian: no problem mate :) not bad for someone who only started using the SVN a week ago :P |
| 15:54.14 | mjc | MCP and S&D should be integrated |
| 15:54.37 | Mikma | what's wrong with ModMenuTuFu?? |
| 15:55.01 | Thiana | !notes XLootMonitor |
| 15:55.01 | SVNBot | XLootMonitor Notes: You've heard of Battlechat? Bah. Squishy? HAH. Loot needs it's own monitor! || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/XLootMonitor |
| 15:55.07 | Xuerian | DarkImakuni: Heh, it's called having a good support group :P. mjc: They should be standard for everyone =O |
| 15:55.39 | mjc | Xuerian: I mean, into WoW |
| 15:55.57 | biosclan | greetings again, is there a better frames addon than discord? |
| 15:56.08 | Thiana | biosclan: oUF/agUF |
| 15:56.19 | Thiana | biosclan: oUF2/agUF |
| 15:56.29 | Thiana | !url ag_UnitFrames |
| 15:56.30 | SVNBot | Main: http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=ag_UnitFrames/ |
| 15:56.30 | SVNBot | Alt: http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/ag_UnitFrames/ |
| 15:56.30 | SVNBot | Info: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/ag_UnitFrames |
| 15:56.33 | Thiana | !url oUF2 |
| 15:56.37 | Xuerian | mjc: That would be even better =P |
| 15:56.58 | Thiana | Hmm, how do you get svnbot to give url for an addon in branches? |
| 15:57.36 | mjc | I think if we integrate them into one mod and then propose it to that blue that does the addon stuff, he might go for it |
| 15:57.44 | Thiana | mjc: slouken? |
| 15:58.02 | mjc | yeah him |
| 15:58.15 | biosclan | i wish they would have pics of what the UI looks like though |
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| 15:58.54 | Thiana | biosclan: agUF is on wowi I think. And it's got an oUF2 emulation so the screenshots might be there too. |
| 15:59.07 | Thiana | agUF has something like 6? different looks. |
| 16:00.40 | DarkImakuni | ding dong! it is now 5pm in UK, which must mean it's 2am for Wobin |
| 16:00.52 | vhaarr | Didn't someone start a Ace2 BonusScanner lib? |
| 16:00.58 | vhaarr | Was it nevcairiel? |
| 16:01.15 | nevcairiel | nope |
| 16:01.29 | vhaarr | hm |
| 16:01.36 | *** join/#wowace [DiE]Celeb (n=zlkkiz@ti300720a080-2241.bb.online.no) |
| 16:02.00 | nevcairiel | i asked about one some time back |
| 16:02.03 | JoshBorke | Mikma: you still here? |
| 16:02.07 | nevcairiel | but thats all :) |
| 16:02.45 | Mikma | http://images.thatimagesite.com/core/473/473_image.jpg |
| 16:02.49 | *** join/#wowace wereHams1er (n=wereHams@gw.ptr-62-65-141-13.customer.ch.netstream.com) |
| 16:03.07 | DarkImakuni | rofl Mikma :D |
| 16:03.18 | Mikma | this is great for forumtrolls |
| 16:03.19 | Mikma | http://images.thatimagesite.com/core/475/475_image.jpg |
| 16:03.42 | wereHams1er | is the SVN web interface gone? |
| 16:03.55 | nevcairiel | the websvn is gone, yes, but there is trac |
| 16:03.55 | DarkImakuni | Mikma: lol :) |
| 16:04.13 | Mikma | JoshBorke: no, i am not here. this is refridgerator chatting. |
| 16:04.23 | Wobin | oh well |
| 16:04.23 | wereHams1er | trac.wowace.com? |
| 16:04.31 | Wobin | since I can't snipe it, I may as well contribute to it |
| 16:04.43 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowace.com/trac |
| 16:04.44 | CIA-11 | 03wobin * r12997 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua: |
| 16:04.44 | CIA-11 | FuBar_FuXPFu: |
| 16:04.44 | CIA-11 | - More level playing around. sparky? |
| 16:06.11 | DarkImakuni | Wobin: being up at 2 in the morning cant be good for you. get some sleep :) |
| 16:06.22 | Mikma | shuss |
| 16:06.25 | Mikma | he's on the roll |
| 16:06.46 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r12998 10Chronometer/Core/ (Chronometer-Locale.lua Chronometer.lua): Chronometer: Add "self" option that toggles showing bars for spells cast on the player |
| 16:06.56 | JoshBorke | Mikma: what's your addon script again? |
| 16:07.18 | *** join/#wowace PProvost (i=PProvost@nat/microsoft/x-e278640593e76cc5) |
| 16:07.24 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/bt2.sh |
| 16:08.12 | JoshBorke | Mikma: thanks |
| 16:08.41 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r13000 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Clean up after yourself before you leave, please. |
| 16:08.41 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r12999 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Really get all the frames into the list for StickyFrames. |
| 16:08.50 | vhaarr | \o/ |
| 16:08.51 | Xuerian | lol. |
| 16:09.00 | Xuerian | What a monumental commit XD |
| 16:09.10 | DarkImakuni | woah wtf |
| 16:09.13 | Xuerian | Sounds like the morning after or something... |
| 16:09.36 | vhaarr | <3 |
| 16:09.37 | Galencia | wtfhax |
| 16:09.43 | Galencia | 13000 came before 12999 |
| 16:09.46 | Galencia | time is going backwards |
| 16:09.47 | Galencia | oh gnoes |
| 16:09.55 | Mikma | wabbit won! |
| 16:10.03 | vhaarr | Carrots all around! |
| 16:10.16 | Mikma | vhaarr: how ever, i didn't get aguf_banzai to work on my game |
| 16:10.26 | vhaarr | Mikma: Err, well, it has some problems. |
| 16:10.28 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: are you sure the webinterface is gone? |
| 16:10.30 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r13001 10Chronometer/readme.txt: Chronometer: update readme with new self option |
| 16:10.35 | biosclan | hmm |
| 16:10.41 | biosclan | oh and btw |
| 16:10.42 | vhaarr | Mikma: And I want ckk to fix some error messages in AceHook before I fix it. |
| 16:10.45 | biosclan | chronometer rocks |
| 16:10.47 | nevcairiel | JoshBorke: the websvn is gone yes, the default browsing is still there. |
| 16:10.50 | vhaarr | Mikma: Since that would make it alot easier for me. |
| 16:10.57 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: It's back ... |
| 16:11.01 | JoshBorke | erm, so what's the difference? |
| 16:11.08 | vhaarr | TRAC has websvn. |
| 16:11.09 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: where? |
| 16:11.14 | JoshBorke | like, i can browse svn.wowace.com/wowace |
| 16:11.15 | vhaarr | lern2trac |
| 16:11.20 | nevcairiel | i said that earlier |
| 16:11.22 | nevcairiel | that there is trac |
| 16:11.30 | nevcairiel | but no real websvn like before |
| 16:11.35 | Mikma | vhaarr: mmkay. pester ckknight until he gets frustrated and fixes it :D |
| 16:11.57 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: And what do you call http://www.wowace.com/trac ? |
| 16:11.59 | nevcairiel | JoshBorke: that doesnt give you revision infos or log entrys, does it ? :) |
| 16:12.05 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: i call that trac |
| 16:12.08 | nevcairiel | and not websvn :D |
| 16:12.10 | vhaarr | I call that websvn. |
| 16:12.12 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: ah! ok :-) |
| 16:12.15 | vhaarr | Name a missing feature. |
| 16:12.22 | vhaarr | Except RSS >< |
| 16:12.30 | DarkImakuni | RSS? :) |
| 16:12.36 | vhaarr | Yes. |
| 16:12.40 | nevcairiel | i dont call agUF oUF only because it has the same features |
| 16:12.41 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 16:13.14 | nevcairiel | mhm |
| 16:13.20 | nevcairiel | i get the google group mails |
| 16:13.25 | nevcairiel | what does the .rss give you? |
| 16:13.36 | DarkImakuni | Live Bookmark in Firefox |
| 16:14.02 | vhaarr | DarkImakuni: From the timeline, yes. |
| 16:14.23 | vhaarr | Speaking of the timeline, it should be limited to showing less stuff by default. |
| 16:14.27 | vhaarr | Takes ages to load it now. |
| 16:14.39 | vhaarr | 30 days -> 3 days is enough. |
| 16:15.22 | *** join/#wowace ag` (n=Andreas@0x535cbb62.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 16:15.30 | DarkImakuni | yeah, its showing me everything from r12892 to r12991... |
| 16:15.47 | vhaarr | Are you being sarcastic? |
| 16:15.51 | DarkImakuni | nope |
| 16:16.01 | vhaarr | Then I don't understand :) |
| 16:16.42 | DarkImakuni | 99 revs -> 20 or 25 revs is enough. |
| 16:16.51 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 16:17.09 | nevcairiel | i like getting the google mails, its great to have the diff, so you dont need to get diffing with your svn client :) |
| 16:17.22 | vhaarr | TRAC has diffs, too. |
| 16:17.31 | vhaarr | Basically a copy of websvn. |
| 16:17.32 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 16:17.42 | vhaarr | Tell me again what features it lacks in comparison to websvn? |
| 16:17.42 | nevcairiel | but this way i have them here, localy, without load time |
| 16:17.51 | nevcairiel | i didnt say it lacked features |
| 16:17.57 | nevcairiel | i just said it wasnt websvn :) |
| 16:17.57 | biosclan | anyone in here use discord still? |
| 16:17.58 | vhaarr | You implied that it did. |
| 16:18.20 | DarkImakuni | anyway, i gtg... see you later |
| 16:18.23 | vhaarr | Because if it doesn't, the fact that it's not websvn is completely irrelevant. |
| 16:18.24 | nevcairiel | later |
| 16:18.57 | nevcairiel | its a product name. the product may be interchangeable with any other product, like trac, but it still is a unique name :) |
| 16:19.12 | Galencia | its far far inferior to viewcvs :p |
| 16:19.20 | *** join/#wowace neale (n=rollo@204.50.77.42) |
| 16:19.27 | nevcairiel | viewcvs is great |
| 16:19.34 | nevcairiel | altho cvs all in all lacks some features. |
| 16:19.40 | vhaarr | When JoshBorke asked if there was a websvn available, I'm guessing he cared dick about the product name and more about the features it provided. |
| 16:19.48 | neale | hey what would cause "Error: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/13001' |
| 16:20.03 | nevcairiel | joshborke thought the default svn browsing was "websvn" |
| 16:20.05 | nevcairiel | so hey :) |
| 16:20.07 | Galencia | nevcairiel: viewcvs works fine with svn repositories |
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| 16:20.27 | nevcairiel | Galencia: oh, i didnt know that |
| 16:20.42 | Galencia | and its python, so it wins the internet by default |
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| 16:22.10 | neale | is there a reason i can't check out !!warmup? |
| 16:22.31 | Mikma | it hates you. hate it back |
| 16:22.40 | neale | i do. violently. |
| 16:22.50 | Galencia | hate it harder |
| 16:22.53 | neale | haha |
| 16:22.59 | yacoob | hehe, discordmods is down? 8) |
| 16:23.01 | SH|Shabador | Are you checking out !!warmup or !!Warmup ? |
| 16:23.09 | SH|Shabador | The latter is the correct one. ^^ |
| 16:23.11 | neale | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/!!Warmup |
| 16:23.14 | neale | :p |
| 16:23.22 | Mikma | yacoob: i have never seen such a unstable "server" :D |
| 16:23.30 | Industrial | haste: please put oUF in the trunk.. |
| 16:23.33 | neale | Error: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/13001' |
| 16:23.37 | Mikma | his monthly fees must be out of this worlf lol |
| 16:23.39 | yacoob | Mikma, well, in the times I was using it, it was doing mostly fine |
| 16:23.53 | yacoob | apart from Loz's forum, that sometimes died up :) |
| 16:24.00 | Mikma | yacoob: yes, oh those times *tear* |
| 16:24.41 | yacoob | Ha, the classics! Do you remember those times, when you were waking up in the morning, and you could find freshly printed and delivered IP packets on your doorstep? :> |
| 16:24.58 | yacoob | youngsters those days think they can get IP with everything! |
| 16:25.03 | Somani | Error: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/13001' Same here ;) |
| 16:25.12 | neale | yeah, there is something wrong with the server. |
| 16:25.45 | Somani | Bad Server -.- |
| 16:25.53 | Mikma | mikma@[~]: cho \!\!Warmup |
| 16:25.57 | Mikma | Checked out revision 13001. |
| 16:26.20 | yacoob | Mikma, don't you follow the Path of the GUI? :) |
| 16:26.35 | Mikma | yacoob: not anymore |
| 16:28.06 | yacoob | Mikma, what happened? |
| 16:28.14 | yacoob | Somebody set up you the bomb? |
| 16:28.37 | Mikma | yacoob: yes, my brains overloaded the chunkyness of mac's GUI's so i decided to go commandprompt |
| 16:28.58 | neale | it's working again, somani |
| 16:29.32 | Somani | test it ;) |
| 16:29.40 | yacoob | Mikma, but seriously, any reason for not using graphical ui for svn? |
| 16:29.45 | neale | i already did, or i wouldn't have said anything :) |
| 16:29.47 | Somani | no -.- |
| 16:30.04 | Somani | ur a lucky guy, nothing else :p |
| 16:30.33 | Mikma | yacoob: yes. good gui's for svn don't exist on osx. |
| 16:30.35 | leech2k | Quick questions. If the only information I have about a mob is the name can I determine if it is a player or npc? (Is not a target or mouseover) |
| 16:30.36 | Industrial | ffs, mrplow stopped working again |
| 16:30.39 | neale | wow, flaky |
| 16:30.40 | neale | ok |
| 16:30.46 | Mikma | yacoob: and, i love bash |
| 16:31.00 | yacoob | Mikma, mhm. (tried zsh? :) |
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| 16:31.06 | Mikma | no |
| 16:31.11 | deci | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JAis-ATxnc&eurl= |
| 16:31.13 | Mikma | because i love bash |
| 16:33.07 | Industrial | deci: sad, sad |
| 16:33.26 | neale | we have a guy at my office who would think that is funny |
| 16:33.28 | neale | we all laugh at him |
| 16:33.33 | neale | ;) |
| 16:38.38 | Somani | Aktualisiert: D:\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\Chronometer\readme.txt |
| 16:38.38 | Somani | Extern: D:\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\Chronometer\libs\AceLibrary |
| 16:38.38 | Somani | Fehler: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/13001' |
| 16:38.38 | Somani | Fehler: No such revision 13001 |
| 16:38.41 | Somani | nice -.- |
| 16:38.43 | neale | yep |
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| 16:41.14 | Somani | gna need an Ace'd Raidtracker for eqDKP -.- |
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| 16:43.02 | Kagaro | anyone got a few mins to talk to me about the event model in wow? |
| 16:43.17 | Elkano | man r13000 failed for not having 13000GET in it's notes |
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| 16:43.37 | FISKER_Q | why are there 2 library addons? |
| 16:43.40 | JoshBorke | Kagaro: things happen and events get fired? what do you need to know exactly? |
| 16:44.10 | Kagaro | im trying to determine which events get fired for untis losing health/mana in your raid .. does UNIT_HEALTH get fired regardless of range? |
| 16:45.02 | CIA-11 | 03jncl * r13002 10oSkin/ (6 files): oSkin: CastingBar changes as per deezel's code, Timer bars now higher, GroupLoot now has 3 sizes Normal, Small, micro, option changed to /oskin grouploot size 1, 2, or 3, Viewport overlay added, off by default |
| 16:45.43 | Saroz | Error: No such revision 13002 |
| 16:45.44 | Saroz | :( |
| 16:45.46 | Saroz | wth |
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| 16:46.48 | JoshBorke | try checking out from a mirror? |
| 16:47.48 | Saroz | need dev man |
| 16:48.18 | Saroz | are they out of sync or something? |
| 16:48.44 | JoshBorke | Kagaro: i think that UNIT_HEALTH gets fired regardless of range |
| 16:49.07 | JoshBorke | Saroz: i don't know. i can svnsync from dev fine |
| 16:49.20 | Kagaro | thanks, that is what I was trying to figure out, I know the CHAT_xxxx events are limited in range |
| 16:49.26 | Saroz | odd |
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| 16:49.55 | nevcairiel | maybe someone commited to a mirror? |
| 16:50.02 | Saroz | that's stupid :( |
| 16:50.05 | nevcairiel | mhm, but that shouldnt alert CIA-11 |
| 16:50.20 | JoshBorke | you shouldn't be able to commit to a mirror |
| 16:50.44 | Saroz | It's odd |
| 16:50.53 | Saroz | It can update 4 files and then it fails |
| 16:50.58 | Saroz | seems like something is out of sync |
| 16:51.51 | FISKER_Q | btw noone knows whats the difference in !!!Libraries and !!!Libs are? |
| 16:52.48 | FISKER_Q | "Caterer" is a smart addon |
| 16:52.53 | FISKER_Q | allows for cheaper food and water :P |
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| 16:57.30 | FISKER_Q | wow addon development is 90% name and 10% coding |
| 16:57.30 | FISKER_Q | :P |
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| 16:57.57 | Xuerian | *s/name/"/console reloadui"/ |
| 16:58.07 | FISKER_Q | :( |
| 16:58.19 | Xuerian | It's true XD |
| 17:01.48 | [FH]Birdemani | did caterer become xad? |
| 17:02.54 | FISKER_Q | xad is an autobar replacement? |
| 17:03.35 | Angeris | yes it is |
| 17:03.37 | yacoob | FISKER_Q, coding? what coding? don't folks just copy and paste? *g,d&r* :) |
| 17:03.43 | Angeris | and i got some probs with it today |
| 17:03.47 | Angeris | i ...cant see it |
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| 17:03.59 | Galencia | svn seems somewhat broken |
| 17:04.09 | Elkano | FISKER_Q, !!!Libraries was renamed !!!Libs since the path name for Candy got to long somehow |
| 17:04.10 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1837.msg48936#msg48936 |
| 17:04.16 | FISKER_Q | exactly yacoob :P |
| 17:04.20 | FISKER_Q | finally Elkano :P |
| 17:04.26 | Elkano | at least I think it was that way |
| 17:04.34 | FISKER_Q | had to disable it in the toc all the time |
| 17:04.55 | Elkano | well, simply don't use !!!Libs ;) |
| 17:04.57 | Mikma | EVERYONE check out my link and see peoples reactions after they read it! |
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| 17:05.03 | FISKER_Q | is it an engine bug or something? |
| 17:05.20 | FISKER_Q | well probably isn't that useful anymore |
| 17:05.26 | FISKER_Q | considered that winaceupdater can do it for you |
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| 17:06.03 | yacoob | FISKER_Q, but if 90% of the code is c&p, then it's obvious, that first programs were c&p from Bible :D |
| 17:06.05 | Saroz | Need SVN fix :( |
| 17:06.09 | Xuerian | haha, Mikma |
| 17:06.57 | Mikma | Xuerian: just the reaction i expected :) |
| 17:07.06 | Elkano | FISKER_Q, I've got a brain, that should do, too |
| 17:07.07 | Xuerian | Mikma: Nice new AV too =P |
| 17:07.17 | Mikma | Xuerian: thanks, people seem to like it :) |
| 17:07.46 | Mikma | http://mikma.reaktio.net/guru.jpg |
| 17:08.03 | Mikma | the tongue is nice touch on that one, and the laptop reminds me of my iBook :) |
| 17:08.41 | FISKER_Q | btw |
| 17:08.49 | FISKER_Q | the funniest story in a danish newspaper |
| 17:09.05 | Xuerian | Heheh, cute XD |
| 17:09.24 | Galencia | Mikma: hehe, i kinda broke most of my addons with the libs stuff :) |
| 17:09.47 | FISKER_Q | "China is developing a new internet called, IPv6, it's the sucessor of IPv4 and is estimated to be 1000 times quicker, the chinese developers think that this will solve the many mailboxes they have" |
| 17:09.52 | FISKER_Q | or something along the lines of that |
| 17:10.04 | oxman | lol |
| 17:10.06 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 17:10.07 | Mikma | Galencia: oh neat. all of my addons worked perfectly |
| 17:10.21 | Galencia | i obviously didnt do it quite right :D |
| 17:10.41 | krka | is that a serious story? |
| 17:11.24 | [FH]Birdemani | obviously ipv6 is new and invented by the chinese! |
| 17:12.07 | pastamancer | I think the root of their problem is that they're building an internet out of mailboxes instead of tubes. |
| 17:12.27 | Xuerian | rofl. |
| 17:12.44 | Galencia | Mikma: maybe i did something wrong.. !!!Libs doesnt show up in my addons list |
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| 17:12.57 | Mikma | Galencia: that's possible |
| 17:13.22 | Thorias | it shows up as All in one.. not !!!Libs in your addons list :) |
| 17:13.48 | Thorias | or AIO Libray Package to be exact |
| 17:13.58 | Galencia | doesnt show up at all :( |
| 17:14.06 | yacoob | [FH]Birdemani, perhaps not invented, but look closely at the bottom of next ipv6 packet you'll get... surely you can spot 'routed in china' :) |
| 17:14.35 | Galencia | xad refuses to load at all |
| 17:14.35 | Galencia | something about crayon |
| 17:14.50 | [FH]Birdemani | yacoob: LOL |
| 17:15.02 | yacoob | FISKER_Q, btw, can you give me the url for the source of your citation? |
| 17:16.11 | Mikma | 3.3KiB/s when idling |
| 17:16.16 | Mikma | something is wrong :( |
| 17:16.24 | yacoob | THEY use your memory. |
| 17:16.40 | FISKER_Q | yacoob yeah but it's danish |
| 17:16.52 | [FH]Birdemani | Mikma: .1 to .3 for me while idle in IF |
| 17:17.01 | FISKER_Q | http://hjem.hhkol.dk/jok/DSC00032.JPG |
| 17:17.12 | krka | lol yacoob |
| 17:18.04 | Saroz | lol FISKER_Q |
| 17:18.16 | Saroz | wtf is that |
| 17:18.23 | Mikma | 5.5KiB/s :( |
| 17:18.27 | Saroz | that's just too stupid to be true |
| 17:18.44 | Thorias | metroXpress ftw |
| 17:19.02 | Saroz | ftl |
| 17:19.25 | FISKER_Q | Saroz |
| 17:19.27 | FISKER_Q | they wrote |
| 17:19.29 | FISKER_Q | "China is developing a new internet called, IPv6, it's the sucessor of IPv4 and is estimated to be 1000 times quicker, the chinese developers think that this will solve the many mailboxes they have" |
| 17:19.31 | FISKER_Q | :) |
| 17:19.32 | Saroz | I know |
| 17:19.33 | Saroz | danish |
| 17:19.36 | Thorias | cant wait for IPv6.. 1000 times faster /drool |
| 17:19.38 | FISKER_Q | that's what the fuck it is :P |
| 17:19.43 | Thorias | newspapers cant be wrong |
| 17:20.00 | yacoob | it's just like those audio review sites |
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| 17:20.19 | yacoob | describing new digital interconnect, that makes your sound go, whoa, wow, WOW! COOL! |
| 17:20.20 | Kebinusan | I read it on the Internet, it must be true |
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| 17:26.35 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r13003 10Squishy/ (core.lua frames.lua localization.enUS.lua): Squishy: many new frame display options: show/hide border, show/hide header, bar width, bar height, bar coloring by class or ctra style. I'm not done yet, more to come in the next few days. |
| 17:27.14 | Saroz | Squishy: Made it optionally work like CTRA EM |
| 17:28.37 | Kebinusan | heh |
| 17:29.46 | oxman | thanks maia :) |
| 17:30.01 | maia | hm? |
| 17:30.02 | oxman | maia add a ora2 style :p |
| 17:30.07 | oxman | "hide header" :) |
| 17:30.09 | maia | whats the ora2 style? |
| 17:30.16 | oxman | look ora2 maintank fames |
| 17:30.16 | oxman | :p |
| 17:30.34 | maia | I wont raid for the next few days, so describe them, |
| 17:30.34 | oxman | i've edit perfectraid to have the same style :p |
| 17:30.41 | oxman | hum wait |
| 17:31.19 | maia | basically I'm slowly adding all options eeMon has. I see no reason for two emergency monitor addons ;) |
| 17:31.45 | oxman | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/tmp20.php |
| 17:31.46 | oxman | :) |
| 17:31.55 | packetls1 | eternally777: is EpGauge in a state that "works"? |
| 17:32.08 | Saroz | <3 maia |
| 17:32.14 | oxman | its my perfectraid with frames style like ora2 maia |
| 17:32.20 | Saroz | now remove the priority thingie |
| 17:32.24 | Saroz | need CTRA EM func |
| 17:32.46 | maia | saroz, well, the bars are colored by class. they just have a different texture. |
| 17:32.51 | Saroz | ye |
| 17:32.53 | Saroz | but I mean |
| 17:32.59 | Saroz | I need it to work like the CTRA one |
| 17:33.01 | axxo | oxman: oh gimme, so nice |
| 17:33.14 | maia | Saroz, its MY addon, I don't care what you "need" ;p |
| 17:33.21 | oxman | i love it axxo :p |
| 17:33.24 | Saroz | well you said you didn't want two EM addons |
| 17:33.35 | Saroz | the reason to use eemon is not the styling |
| 17:33.36 | oxman | anyway maia, if you don't want add this style, i will add it on my local version :p |
| 17:33.37 | axxo | oxman: me too |
| 17:33.52 | axxo | its very nice +1 to add it |
| 17:34.03 | maia | Saroz: tell evil elvis to join the Squishy coding team instead of rewriting everything. |
| 17:36.28 | oxman | maia you have see ? |
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| 17:36.46 | maia | ya |
| 17:36.59 | oxman | what do you think about this style ? |
| 17:37.25 | Galencia | Mikma: ah it wasnt the libs.. it was a bug in bartender2, i hadnt updated it properly.. |
| 17:37.42 | vhaarr | ckknight: hey |
| 17:37.59 | vhaarr | ckknight: I got a strange problem with AceHook that I can't figure out. |
| 17:38.10 | ckknight | k? |
| 17:38.58 | vhaarr | ckknight: I'm wondering how I can get the "AceHook-2.0: There is a stale hook for "StatusBarsColor" can't hook or reactivate." if I check self:IsHooked first. |
| 17:39.05 | vhaarr | Should that be possible? |
| 17:39.16 | ckknight | ah, not sure |
| 17:39.29 | vhaarr | it's at line 299 in AceHook |
| 17:39.45 | ckknight | I think you are rehooking a different function. |
| 17:39.58 | ckknight | i.e. a different handler |
| 17:39.58 | vhaarr | ckknight: I'm thinking that it would also help if the error messages produced by that function (_hookMeth) included some sort of representation of the |obj| |
| 17:40.42 | vhaarr | hm |
| 17:40.56 | oxman | hum maia, your option remove the header text, but not the header :| |
| 17:41.12 | vhaarr | ckknight: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/aUF_Banzai/aUF_Banzai.lua |
| 17:41.23 | vhaarr | ckknight: The code is really small, take a quick look |
| 17:41.42 | vhaarr | It errors on self:Hook(object, method). |
| 17:41.42 | CIA-11 | 03ghent * r13004 10JackKnife/ (. JackKnife.toc): JackKnife: Initial import into repository |
| 17:41.58 | vhaarr | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2375.msg48653#msg48653 |
| 17:41.59 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/JackKnife |
| 17:42.00 | vhaarr | stacktrace |
| 17:42.24 | ckknight | lol |
| 17:42.25 | maia | oxman: yeah. a) I'm not done. b) I'm using the header for various stuff with a non-published addon. so I NEED the header area. |
| 17:42.29 | ckknight | clearly wrong, vhaarr |
| 17:42.37 | Iceroth | offs, why is tofu broken like every other day >.< |
| 17:42.45 | oxman | put an option to show for you and not for us maia :) |
| 17:42.45 | ckknight | wai |
| 17:42.47 | ckknight | wait |
| 17:42.47 | ckknight | um |
| 17:42.54 | oxman | and about the style maia ? :p |
| 17:43.06 | ckknight | okay |
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| 17:43.08 | ckknight | I dunno. |
| 17:43.41 | vhaarr | ckknight: I can't see what I do wrong, the :IsHooked should catch it .. ? |
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| 17:43.57 | vhaarr | ckknight: But it would help me if the error message included some representation of |obj|. |
| 17:44.08 | maia | oxman, the difference is just that you're using BantoBar as texture, thats all. Besides that, why don't you commit stuff yourself instead of asking for tons of options? |
| 17:44.33 | oxman | because i don't want walk on your work :) |
| 17:44.42 | Saroz | w00t, SVN update done |
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| 17:44.45 | Mikma | !info JackKnife |
| 17:45.46 | maia | branch it off, if I like the code, I'll add it to trunk. you can always do that. I just dont like ugly hacks, so the code should be nice. |
| 17:46.02 | CIA-11 | 03duglum 07otravi * r13005 10otravi_CastingBar/oCB/ (core.lua textures/Charcoal.tga): oCB2: adding Charcoal.tga as a texture. |
| 17:46.51 | CIA-11 | 03ghent * r13006 10JackKnife/ (. doc/ doc/Ace2Externals.txt doc/Ace2ExternalsDev.txt): |
| 17:46.51 | CIA-11 | JackKnife: Updated externals |
| 17:46.51 | CIA-11 | JackKnife: Added documentation for external locations |
| 17:46.56 | oxman | so i do what i want in branch maia ? |
| 17:47.49 | maia | oxman: thats what branches are made for. |
| 17:48.03 | oxman | ok thanks |
| 17:48.10 | maia | but I'll upload more textures in a few min. |
| 17:48.20 | oxman | so i wait before start my work |
| 17:48.30 | oxman | i start when you've upload for textures |
| 17:48.49 | oxman | i will rewrite the layout to have a layout like my screen and an option to remove range check |
| 17:49.35 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r13007 10eeMon/display.lua: eeMon: Remove duel self:EnableMouse calls |
| 17:49.48 | Mikma | vhaarr: so, are we smarter after the chat with ckknight ? :) |
| 17:49.57 | maia | oxman: keep in mind I'm completely rewriting the layout code these days. so I rather suggest to add small stuff to core.lua |
| 17:50.01 | vhaarr | Mikma: not yet |
| 17:50.09 | Mikma | vhaarr: aww :/ |
| 17:50.23 | vhaarr | there might be a commit incoming soon though, you never know with ckk |
| 17:50.26 | oxman | no problem i will rewrite in few days after your work :) |
| 17:50.33 | oxman | i've the time to do both before and after :) |
| 17:51.39 | maia | oxman: I suggest you could do two things: a) add an option that will skip GetModifier() and b) add an option that will use a different UpdatePriority() and UpdatePriorityFrames() |
| 17:51.56 | oxman | what's GetModifier ? |
| 17:52.04 | maia | well, look at the code. |
| 17:52.17 | oxman | hum i understand |
| 17:52.24 | oxman | and what kind of priority for b) ? |
| 17:53.06 | maia | if you skip GetModifier(), units are sorted by health. option b) will not reuse frames but always sort them by health. |
| 17:53.19 | CIA-11 | 03ghent * r13008 10JackKnife/ (. doc/Ace2Externals.txt doc/Ace2ExternalsDev.txt): |
| 17:53.19 | CIA-11 | JackKnife: Updated externals to the *proper* URL :P |
| 17:53.19 | CIA-11 | JackKnife: Updated relevant externals documentation |
| 17:53.20 | Saroz | w00t |
| 17:53.21 | Saroz | tbh |
| 17:53.23 | Saroz | wtb |
| 17:53.59 | oxman | so you want say an option to disable GetModifier, so an other method to update frames instead of UpdatePriority and UpdatePriorityFrames to have best performance, right ? |
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| 17:54.56 | maia | it wont really affect performance |
| 17:55.12 | oxman | so only to have a clean code ? |
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| 17:55.50 | maia | no, to not reuse frame (aka keep unit at line 4 even if its health changes) |
| 17:56.32 | oxman | hum wait, i need to read the code |
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| 17:58.02 | oxman | so only add the (for example) 5 units with lesser health |
| 17:58.16 | oxman | but if an unit become 10% of 30% keep at the position right ? |
| 17:58.18 | Mikma | !trunk JackKnife |
| 17:58.22 | SVNBot | You can already find the latest revision of JackKnife at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/JackKnife/ |
| 17:58.25 | Mikma | !info JackKnife |
| 17:58.30 | haste | Mikma, only libs there |
| 17:58.35 | N3x | hey peeps i got FuBar and a bunch of addons for it.... but a few of them that are classified in the others section in the FuBar tootip won't load into the bar.....like i can't put a check mark by them anyone no why..... one of these addons is GFXtoggle |
| 17:58.37 | haste | Mikma, there is no add on in it :D |
| 17:58.45 | Mikma | boo, boooooooo |
| 17:58.55 | Mikma | well i didn't look it ;) |
| 17:59.03 | haste | I did :D |
| 17:59.10 | Mikma | only libs? |
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| 18:00.56 | Thiana | !notes JackKnife |
| 18:00.56 | SVNBot | JackKnife Notes: Unlocks and opens all objects in inventory || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/JackKnife |
| 18:00.56 | N3x | ...guess not |
| 18:01.28 | haste | N3x, isn't GFXToggle Fubar 1.2 ? |
| 18:01.53 | N3x | so it wont work with 2.0? |
| 18:01.56 | maia | oxman: yeah, thats what UpdatePriorityFrames() is doing. If you want to resort all units all the time, you'll need to change the code. |
| 18:02.21 | N3x | i put that compact 1.2 thing in |
| 18:02.47 | oxman | so you want a true health sort ? |
| 18:03.09 | oxman | or the both ? a health sort with static position and a true health sort ? |
| 18:04.49 | maia | oxman: I assumed thats what you want - a true health sort. IMHO Squishy needs two independent options: a) use priority system and b) use static positioning |
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| 18:05.18 | oxman | ok i'll try to do that :) |
| 18:05.25 | oxman | but i'll start with the layout :p |
| 18:05.27 | oxman | then that :) |
| 18:05.38 | oxman | the layout will be done in few hours, and that maybe tomorrow |
| 18:05.42 | maia | some people might not want the priority system but like the static positioning (which is very helpful if you have less than 10FPS), others might like the opposite |
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| 18:05.53 | oxman | (i wait your commit about texture to begin the layout) |
| 18:06.00 | oxman | I'm agree |
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| 18:07.15 | vhaarr | what are the combat log mods again |
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| 18:07.21 | vhaarr | battlechat, ..., ... ? |
| 18:07.32 | vhaarr | simplecombatlog |
| 18:07.35 | vhaarr | and? |
| 18:07.48 | haste | eavesdrop? |
| 18:07.51 | axxo | hitsmode? |
| 18:08.24 | vhaarr | thanks |
| 18:08.57 | [FH]Birdemani | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=31013618&sid=1 |
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| 18:13.39 | Elkano | author of Chronometer isn't in here, is he? |
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| 18:15.39 | maia | oxman, what are your plans for the layout? |
| 18:15.50 | Arrowmaster | wtf Shadowfury is now targeted? |
| 18:16.01 | oxman | instead of -1004 put 1k |
| 18:16.08 | oxman | put the name over the bar |
| 18:16.21 | oxman | put raidicon before the name |
| 18:16.22 | oxman | (in case of) |
| 18:16.31 | maia | oxman: I'm adding the name on the bar in a few minutes or hours. |
| 18:16.31 | oxman | put status after the health |
| 18:16.37 | oxman | change the backdrop color for aggro |
| 18:16.56 | oxman | remove the squishy frame |
| 18:17.07 | oxman | so an unit on squishy act like a maintank in ora |
| 18:17.22 | oxman | and i think nothing else :D |
| 18:17.40 | maia | I'm currently adding all the eeMon layout features. So focus on something else instead, or wait a few more days. |
| 18:17.46 | Arrowmaster | hmm damnit 30/21/10 is starting to look better and better =( |
| 18:17.52 | oxman | no i want it now :p |
| 18:17.56 | oxman | so i will add it very soon |
| 18:18.00 | oxman | i wait your commit for texture |
| 18:18.00 | oxman | :) |
| 18:18.13 | oxman | if you put my work into a trashbin, no problem for me :) |
| 18:18.59 | maia | I already commited it. |
| 18:19.05 | maia | svnbot is slow |
| 18:19.33 | oxman | ok so i get the update |
| 18:19.35 | oxman | thanks |
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| 18:21.45 | Nightdew | hello all |
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| 18:22.40 | mjc | blah |
| 18:24.20 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r13010 10FuBar_PursueFu/ (FuBar_PursueFu.lua FuBar_PursueFu.toc): |
| 18:24.20 | CIA-11 | PursueFu: |
| 18:24.20 | CIA-11 | * Reminder message shouldn't be fired at login anymore. |
| 18:24.20 | CIA-11 | * Reduced a 259-line table into a 19-line function for efficiency purposes. |
| 18:24.50 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/FuBar_PursueFu |
| 18:25.59 | Nightdew | who loves doing regex's |
| 18:26.02 | Nightdew | ? |
| 18:26.11 | axxo | me |
| 18:26.20 | eternally777 | Nightdew: Pick me, pick me!! |
| 18:26.22 | Mikma | Xuerian: can i have the xlootsomething to open somehow? |
| 18:26.34 | eternally777 | Nightdew: oh ok, pick axxo, not me. |
| 18:27.20 | Xuerian | Mikma: O.o... ? Rephrase for 100 |
| 18:27.54 | Mikma | Xuerian: the module for xloot |
| 18:28.00 | Mikma | that logs loots... |
| 18:28.06 | Mikma | how can i get it open with all the loot sofar |
| 18:28.29 | Xuerian | XLootMonitor? Oh. It doesn't have a history yet, it will have one though. Most likely using FubarPlugin |
| 18:28.51 | Mikma | Xuerian: well any way to configure it? |
| 18:30.25 | Xuerian | ./script XLootMonitor.dp.profile.timeout = 20 (default, miss-set at 5 with the current release), .threshold = 4 (default, how many rows at a time are left up for their entire duration) |
| 18:30.43 | Xuerian | After I get some RL junk done I'll be making the dewdrop for it, and more options, and all that fun stuff |
| 18:30.53 | Xuerian | XLM is one day old :P |
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| 18:31.02 | Mikma | Xuerian: make the frame to show all loots so far |
| 18:32.00 | Xuerian | also *Monitor.db.profile, earlier. Mikma: Yeah, I'll add that probably, with merging of item stacks (24x linen cloth vs 5, 2, 6, 6... etc...) |
| 18:32.19 | Mikma | Xuerian: so far it's pretty freaking neat, i like the idea of it :D |
| 18:33.06 | Xuerian | ^_^... Well, at 4:40 am It was just functional so that's what's up right now, yeah, any more suggestions and such just ping me with them =D. For the moment afkness though >< |
| 18:33.29 | Mikma | Xuerian: does it show all the loot or only epix'n'stuff |
| 18:34.05 | Xuerian | There's a quality threshold setting in there right now, but it'll no doubt end up on a 0-8 slider option later as to what's shown |
| 18:34.22 | Mikma | Xuerian: no, make that Radiobuttons, fuck the sliders :D |
| 18:34.50 | Xuerian | Heh, yeah, forgot about them =P... Haven't done one yet, so it'll be a learning experience XD |
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| 18:35.41 | Mikma | Xuerian: have a look at BT2 Options.lua! someone made radiobuttons there |
| 18:35.50 | Mikma | AZIZ THE COMBAT FIGHTER! |
| 18:35.52 | Xuerian|RLSucks | mm, Okay |
| 18:36.01 | Xuerian|RLSucks | Thanks ;D |
| 18:38.11 | yacoob | hm |
| 18:38.20 | yacoob | which agUF zip is the most developed? |
| 18:38.24 | yacoob | branch I mean |
| 18:41.35 | Mikma | yacoob: nevcairiel's branch propably |
| 18:41.47 | Mikma | yacoob: i myself use Kemayo's branch coz it got portraits |
| 18:42.00 | neale | mikma likes the pretty pictures |
| 18:42.07 | Mikma | yes please |
| 18:42.11 | Mikma | liek goatse |
| 18:42.12 | neale | hehe |
| 18:42.31 | Mikma | well my nelf is a gnome now, who doesn't like gnomepriest huh? :D |
| 18:42.43 | yacoob | and where can I find zips for branches? |
| 18:43.08 | Mikma | !branch ag_UnitFrames |
| 18:43.59 | nevcairiel | my branch only contains updated buff positioning code |
| 18:44.03 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r13011 10Squishy/ (core.lua developer-todo.txt frames.lua localization.enUS.lua): Squishy: 2 new options: show unit names inside bar, color names by class or white. |
| 18:44.09 | maia | oxman: for you. |
| 18:44.14 | neale | <3 maia |
| 18:44.22 | oxman | :p |
| 18:44.32 | oxman | you sux :D |
| 18:44.34 | maia | lol |
| 18:44.36 | oxman | i need to remove my modification |
| 18:44.40 | oxman | and commit again :p |
| 18:45.04 | maia | I told you to wait. |
| 18:45.11 | oxman | wait the bar you've said. |
| 18:45.18 | maia | wait for a few days I said |
| 18:45.29 | oxman | i don't want wait. |
| 18:45.31 | maia | "maia: oxman: I'm adding the name on the bar in a few minutes or hours." |
| 18:45.37 | oxman | anyway you will never add my layout :') |
| 18:45.56 | neale | maybe you should rip squishy apart, rename it, and make it your own addon oxman. :) giggle |
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| 18:46.13 | maia | I don't really understand what your layout specifically is. |
| 18:46.34 | maia | neale: nah, thats what elvis did a few days ago with eeMon |
| 18:46.46 | neale | i know maia... sorry - was being sarcastic |
| 18:46.48 | oxman | what you have a frame for squishy ? |
| 18:46.50 | oxman | you don't need frame |
| 18:46.53 | oxman | the unit are the frames |
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| 18:47.25 | neale | teh internet is not sarcasm-friendly |
| 18:47.29 | oxman | then add the health value like i've said :p |
| 18:47.37 | maia | oxman: step1) read the entire code. step2) try to understand it. step3) ask yourself why I need a frame again. ;p |
| 18:47.37 | oxman | forget the - (useless place) |
| 18:47.42 | oxman | so all value are "positives" |
| 18:47.49 | oxman | and put 1k instead of 1000 |
| 18:47.59 | oxman | you don't need a frame. |
| 18:48.07 | maia | oxman: post the snippet to pastebin.ca and I'll add it |
| 18:48.10 | oxman | you can add space between unit without frame |
| 18:48.19 | oxman | no i'll make my local version |
| 18:48.22 | oxman | like for perfectraid =p |
| 18:49.03 | maia | oxman: I'd prefer if you'd post the few lines of code. I might want them as well, ever thought of that? |
| 18:49.04 | oxman | your stuff about proximitylib is very strange :| |
| 18:49.13 | oxman | it's not few line |
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| 18:49.17 | oxman | its why i can't do that |
| 18:49.25 | oxman | its lot of change |
| 18:49.32 | oxman | for the health is few line true. |
| 18:49.48 | maia | then its bad code. replacing 1040 by 1k is not more than one regexp |
| 18:50.11 | neale | as long as he's not putting in trunk its fine maia ;) |
| 18:50.28 | oxman | no maia :) |
| 18:50.35 | oxman | local val = hpmax-hp |
| 18:50.35 | oxman | if val > 1000 then |
| 18:50.35 | oxman | val = ceil(val/100)/10 .. "k" |
| 18:50.35 | oxman | end |
| 18:50.36 | oxman | f.HP:SetText(val) |
| 18:50.38 | oxman | its fine :p |
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| 18:51.52 | oxman | and i don't wan "class colored name" |
| 18:51.54 | oxman | (but its good) |
| 18:51.59 | oxman | i want "bar colored name" |
| 18:52.01 | oxman | hum |
| 18:52.04 | oxman | "class colored bar" |
| 18:52.04 | oxman | :) |
| 18:54.02 | neale | get a room |
| 18:54.36 | clad | oxman: I like that change, as long as there's an option for it (The 1k, not the class colored bar) |
| 18:54.59 | oxman | lol ok |
| 18:55.05 | oxman | but i've do a perfectraid revisited locally |
| 18:55.09 | oxman | its a big dirty patch |
| 18:55.16 | oxman | so i don't send my version xD |
| 18:55.25 | oxman | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/tmp20.php |
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| 18:55.40 | oxman | hum in this screen i've forget to add 1k |
| 18:55.45 | oxman | but its in actually :) |
| 18:56.18 | clad | is that a backdrop texture, or just the old backdrop stuff i had in there before? |
| 18:56.28 | oxman | lots of change |
| 18:56.33 | clad | yeah, but what. |
| 18:56.42 | oxman | don't remember exactly :') |
| 18:56.53 | oxman | i can send you the version if you want do a diff :D |
| 18:56.56 | vhaarr | clad: another small thing I noticed; if I edit a clique action and then click the icon to change it, when you click Save then to go back to the edit box, the edit box is gone. |
| 18:56.57 | clad | ... |
| 18:57.11 | clad | vharr: hahah neat! |
| 18:57.33 | oxman | for example i've add a target selector ("yellow" border) |
| 18:57.38 | Mikma | now that reaction i didn't wait |
| 18:57.42 | oxman | remove the border when a debuff |
| 18:57.48 | oxman | add a texture for backdrop |
| 18:57.54 | oxman | add aggro checker |
| 18:58.01 | oxman | and its all i think |
| 18:58.30 | clad | oxman: Umm.. svn mkdir http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/PerfectRaid svn mkdir http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/PerfectRaid/oxman svn copy http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/PerfectRaid http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/PerfectRaid/oxman/ |
| 18:58.36 | clad | then commit yours on top of that |
| 18:58.40 | clad | so i have a clean diff on trac |
| 18:58.54 | oxman | hum ok, but i don't know very well svn stuff =') |
| 18:59.15 | oxman | i try |
| 18:59.27 | maia | its time to learn it, oxman. |
| 18:59.33 | oxman | it seems :p |
| 18:59.34 | clad | I just gave you a command by command =) |
| 18:59.36 | oxman | its because i try :D |
| 19:00.02 | clad | all branches have to be named branches/AddonName/BranchName/AddonName, so you have to mkdir the AddonName and the AddonName/BranchName |
| 19:00.10 | oxman | the first open me an editor xD |
| 19:00.26 | clad | then you just copy from trunk to that new directory, check out the branch copy, put your files in their places, and commit =) |
| 19:00.32 | mjc | clad: that's kinda silly |
| 19:00.41 | Mikma | clad: ummh. well people use /branches/AddonName/account .. and it's ok |
| 19:00.48 | mjc | branches/AddonName/BranchName seems much better to me |
| 19:00.56 | clad | why? |
| 19:01.00 | clad | so when you chewck it out you have to rename the folder? |
| 19:01.02 | CIA-11 | 03ghent * r13012 10JackKnife/ (. doc/Ace2ExternalsDev.txt): JackKnife: Updated externals for PTEmbeded |
| 19:01.04 | oxman | 405 method not allowed |
| 19:01.10 | oxman | maybe i've forget my password ^^ |
| 19:01.12 | mjc | clad svk co foo bar |
| 19:01.13 | Mikma | becuse you can checkout stuff like svn http://that/branches/AddonName/account AddonName |
| 19:01.25 | mjc | or svn even |
| 19:01.36 | Mikma | s/svn http/svn co http/ |
| 19:01.40 | clad | mjc yes, but thats not intuitive on all clients. |
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| 19:01.54 | clad | i agree, but that's what we decided, and that IS the standad for branch naming. |
| 19:01.56 | clad | whether you like it or not =) |
| 19:02.01 | clad | its all the zip script recognizes. |
| 19:02.05 | clad | and its in the sticky =) |
| 19:02.13 | Mikma | clad: topic us please :D |
| 19:02.15 | mjc | k, well, so much for me branching anything anyways |
| 19:02.20 | oxman | i've forget my password |
| 19:02.22 | oxman | so no commit :p |
| 19:02.35 | clad | oxman: send it to me and i'll do it =) |
| 19:02.35 | Mikma | wohoo! |
| 19:02.38 | clad | i'll diff locally |
| 19:02.55 | oxman | bof |
| 19:02.55 | oxman | :p |
| 19:03.03 | Mikma | clad: oh, sorting works now. but there's still no way of sortinf debuffs your class is able to cure |
| 19:03.03 | clad | oxman: and let me know when you make changes as drastic as this.. because i can implement it without any issue, but i need good ideas =)( |
| 19:03.22 | clad | Mikma: yes there is.. |
| 19:03.24 | clad | err |
| 19:03.26 | clad | no there isn't |
| 19:03.27 | Mikma | :D |
| 19:03.37 | clad | yeah the code's all in there, try changing ... PerfectRaid.opt.Filter |
| 19:03.39 | clad | see if that works =) |
| 19:03.48 | mjc | clad: for those that speak different native languages, code is the best language to communicate one's ideas |
| 19:03.49 | mjc | :p |
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| 19:04.03 | Mikma | clad: ok i will try that |
| 19:04.18 | Xuerian|RLSucks | oxman: Ooo, I like that PRaid setup =D |
| 19:04.25 | neale | yeah it's nice looking for sure |
| 19:04.37 | oxman | its [Ammo] style ;p |
| 19:04.44 | oxman | (pick from ora2 maintank frames) |
| 19:04.46 | clad | scratch that, PerfectRaid.opt.FilterDebuffs |
| 19:04.59 | clad | mjc: I agree, but its nice to share that with the author of the addon =) |
| 19:05.13 | mjc | clad: diffs |
| 19:05.14 | mjc | :P |
| 19:05.25 | oxman | I think i've the right pass, but the svn don't accept my mkdir |
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| 19:06.16 | CIA-11 | 03ghent * r13013 10JackKnife/JackKnife.toc: JackKnife: Added new externals to TOC |
| 19:06.48 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/JackKnife |
| 19:06.56 | oxman | its tedious ! |
| 19:06.59 | oxman | boring svn ! |
| 19:08.05 | evl_ | what is more accurate |
| 19:08.08 | evl_ | swstats or damagemeters? |
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| 19:08.32 | oxman | ahhhh ! |
| 19:08.34 | clad | oxman: sent you an email, if you dont get that working =) but let me know either way |
| 19:08.39 | clad | i'm at work so I can't do much, or be on irc. |
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| 19:08.58 | oxman | i send email where ? |
| 19:09.44 | oxman | hum ok |
| 19:09.45 | oxman | sorry |
| 19:10.49 | oxman | its send clad |
| 19:14.17 | clad | thanks |
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| 19:16.56 | oxman | and the 1k support ? =p |
| 19:17.16 | neale | want me to hold him, maia? |
| 19:17.29 | maia | yeah. |
| 19:17.32 | Mikma | rawr |
| 19:17.43 | Mikma | my friend has the stupid-channel bug with Prat |
| 19:17.46 | neale | mik how's the map coming |
| 19:17.52 | Mikma | so i gotta go back to vChat |
| 19:17.57 | Mikma | neale: it's frozen atm |
| 19:18.04 | oxman | after the 1k, one hack to remove this stupid header ;p |
| 19:18.06 | neale | ~revolver |
| 19:18.11 | Mikma | i got into a school today so i had to stop the coding |
| 19:18.11 | neale | ~roulette |
| 19:18.13 | purl | ACTION watches neale pull the trigger: Click! |
| 19:18.13 | neale | cry |
| 19:18.21 | Mikma | ~tryme |
| 19:18.22 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at packetlss and fires. A whale named Theodore who is the size of a small country flies into the target's face |
| 19:18.48 | neale | lol |
| 19:20.38 | maia | oxman: I'm seeing you in this channel for the past months. I'm seeing you asking tons of questions. What I havent seen is any contribution to the community yet though. |
| 19:20.50 | Mikma | well, vChat + Chatmanager ftw i guess |
| 19:20.51 | oxman | really ? :) |
| 19:21.25 | Mikma | really really |
| 19:21.30 | oxman | lol |
| 19:21.33 | oxman | so open your eyes :') |
| 19:21.36 | mjc | maia: he just sent a diff to clad |
| 19:21.37 | mjc | :p |
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| 19:22.05 | oxman | often i do locally and never update, because author don't like that i want |
| 19:22.06 | oxman | :') |
| 19:22.24 | neale | you should just branch what you do update, oxman, maybe other people would like the same things |
| 19:22.26 | oxman | like my zip for clad|work, he will pick some idea, i know, but not the fully idea |
| 19:22.30 | oxman | and I want the full idea |
| 19:22.36 | oxman | so i keep my version |
| 19:22.40 | maia | havent noticed vChat yet. but how come you published an addon without knowing how to commit something to the svn? |
| 19:22.55 | oxman | maybe neale, but I don't know how use svn ;p |
| 19:23.00 | oxman | and i don't remember my pass |
| 19:23.02 | oxman | so... :') |
| 19:23.28 | neale | svn is cake, if you want to send me your code i'll branch it for you :p |
| 19:23.46 | oxman | do you want i repeat ? :) |
| 19:23.49 | neale | and i'm just a dumb user |
| 19:23.59 | oxman | hum no its boring ;p |
| 19:24.19 | oxman | and i do often dirty hack |
| 19:24.25 | oxman | and don't want commit because its dirty ;p |
| 19:24.30 | oxman | i do that only to see if its work |
| 19:24.36 | oxman | and after i forget to clean it :p |
| 19:24.49 | oxman | or forget my change etc :D |
| 19:25.01 | oxman | actually i see a dirty squishy :p |
| 19:25.14 | oxman | because if i set headertext height to 0 it don't wor |
| 19:25.15 | oxman | work |
| 19:25.19 | oxman | i must hack some stuff :) |
| 19:26.37 | maia | guys, can you all do me a favour please? people are posting problems with Detox. The reports are uselesss though, as they don't state which class + spell they were using, if they were in a party or raid, who they were targetting etc. Can you download the latest revision, test it a bit and properly post your results? I need to fix it, but as I don't raid these days and only play a priest I need your help. |
| 19:27.14 | oxman | I see no problem |
| 19:27.17 | oxman | except for range check |
| 19:27.20 | neale | if i see anything wrong i will post it maia |
| 19:27.23 | oxman | not very accurate |
| 19:27.54 | mjc | maia: I'd guesstimate 99% of them are using blizz's autoselfcast |
| 19:28.14 | maia | neale: please also post if something is working. such as "playing a priest I can properly dispel magic and cure disease in raids, but only hwn having targetted a mob - if I target a player in the raid, it will change target". |
| 19:28.16 | Mikma | i haven't had errors with Detox :P |
| 19:28.40 | maia | mjc: I'm disabling autoselfcast when clicking the keybinding and reenabling right afterwards. |
| 19:28.49 | mjc | ah |
| 19:28.51 | mjc | neat idea |
| 19:29.45 | neale | yeah, i use detox on the priest and mage and haven't had any problems but i'll pay more careful attention to my targeting |
| 19:29.50 | maia | but its still possible this is the reason for problems. |
| 19:30.07 | maia | neale: try to target mobs, yourself and raid units and see if it makes a difference please. |
| 19:30.10 | malreth | maia: I too haven't had any problems with Detox as a mage. I almost always have a mob targeted (DIE Lucifron!) and it just spams Remove Curse all day long just like I want |
| 19:30.11 | neale | you bet |
| 19:30.31 | neale | yeah malreth that has been my experience as well |
| 19:30.38 | maia | well, please all post your observations in the thread, so I can make a complete list of whats working and what not. |
| 19:30.39 | Xuerian | Haven't been having any problems either, for the record, though I'll get the latest revision |
| 19:30.43 | neale | but i'll pay better attention |
| 19:30.52 | malreth | i will post no such thing! |
| 19:31.00 | malreth | oh wait... sure. |
| 19:31.03 | maia | you're all using one of the latest revisions? (from the last 2 days?) |
| 19:31.18 | neale | i update before i raid ;) |
| 19:31.21 | malreth | i update all addons before I launch WoW |
| 19:31.21 | Xuerian | Probably... not... <.< >.>... /gets latest. |
| 19:31.29 | malreth | i like to live dangerously |
| 19:31.32 | maia | lol |
| 19:31.46 | mjc | malreth: remove lesser curse |
| 19:32.04 | malreth | "Ooh! Damn... Sorry folks. Apparently CorkFu now aggros Garr whenever I buff people. My bad!" |
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| 19:32.18 | malreth | mjc: sure thing. |
| 19:32.26 | maia | afk for 20min |
| 19:32.32 | mjc | lol |
| 19:32.36 | malreth | feel better> |
| 19:32.38 | malreth | ? |
| 19:32.48 | mjc | that hit the spot |
| 19:32.50 | Xuerian | The zip script seems to randomly decide mods don't need libs.... >.> |
| 19:32.56 | malreth | 50s |
| 19:33.04 | mjc | LOL |
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| 19:34.42 | Toufas | can someone give me some help please? |
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| 19:34.59 | neale | what's the question lol |
| 19:35.01 | malreth | are you bleeding? |
| 19:35.06 | neale | haha malreth |
| 19:35.09 | Xuerian | Dunno, unless we know what you need help with. |
| 19:35.20 | neale | yeah, mik's whale hit him |
| 19:35.31 | malreth | it's an important question to ask... in case of emergency. |
| 19:35.35 | malreth | Toufas: ask away |
| 19:35.53 | Toufas | i was in my guilds raid just now |
| 19:35.53 | malreth | but first, i must change locations... brb |
| 19:35.53 | Toufas | when i was ooc |
| 19:35.58 | Toufas | everything was ok |
| 19:36.13 | Toufas | but when we started fighting, ping was skyrocketing |
| 19:36.22 | Toufas | i disabled all addons |
| 19:36.25 | Toufas | again the same |
| 19:36.30 | Toufas | deleted wdb wtf |
| 19:36.31 | Toufas | same.. |
| 19:36.33 | malreth | addons do not affect ping/latency |
| 19:36.34 | mjc | bittorrent, limewire, kazaa? |
| 19:36.38 | Toufas | nothing |
| 19:36.40 | Toufas | only ventrilo |
| 19:36.45 | neale | bye bye vent |
| 19:36.50 | Toufas | done it |
| 19:36.51 | mjc | dialup? |
| 19:36.51 | Toufas | same. |
| 19:37.00 | Toufas | cable 10mbit |
| 19:37.07 | malreth | addons do not affect ping/latency |
| 19:37.16 | neale | <shrug> no idea |
| 19:37.19 | malreth | so... probably not an addon problem |
| 19:37.27 | Toufas | fuck |
| 19:37.31 | malreth | unless you have several addons that do combat syncing |
| 19:37.32 | Toufas | could it be isp issue? |
| 19:37.34 | kergoth | either your cable or the server, most likely. nothing you can fix |
| 19:37.47 | malreth | but even then, you'd probably get disconnected from the server before you could affect the connection any |
| 19:38.08 | Toufas | yes i get disced after 1 min or so |
| 19:38.26 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1837.msg48971#msg48971 |
| 19:38.40 | Xuerian | Toufas: Restart your modem. |
| 19:39.09 | Toufas | did it and changed from router to modem directly |
| 19:39.19 | Xuerian | No clue then ^_~ |
| 19:39.35 | Toufas | i installed teksupport |
| 19:39.50 | Toufas | i have it onupdatehandlers and sort by time |
| 19:39.50 | Xuerian | Really, mods wouldn't affect your latency |
| 19:40.02 | Xuerian | If they sent enough to do anyhting to your latency you'd be disconnected for rate spam |
| 19:40.10 | Toufas | UIparent seems to go up to 5400ms |
| 19:40.23 | mjc | because it's waiting on your modem |
| 19:40.32 | Toufas | so isp issue? |
| 19:40.32 | mjc | well |
| 19:40.35 | mjc | your internet connection |
| 19:40.36 | mjc | possibly |
| 19:40.46 | malreth | that number is meaningless without the rest of the data from tekSupport... 5400ms means nothing |
| 19:40.51 | mjc | has nothing to do with mods, that's all we can be for certain |
| 19:41.05 | malreth | especially if it still happens when your mods are disabled |
| 19:42.55 | Xuerian | Hey Mikma: What about a "Future List" stack in XLMonitor? It'd sync with other XLoot's, and the leader's would broadcast boss loot which would get inserted into that table? Optional on both ends, of course |
| 19:42.58 | eternally777 | Is lua 5.1 going to be an excuse to not worry about tables? Or will it still be important to use them efficiently |
| 19:43.17 | malreth | eternally777: you should always practice good programming habits |
| 19:43.22 | Xuerian | I'd imagine you should still use them efficently, but cleaning them up won't be a problem |
| 19:43.39 | Mikma | Xuerian: oh, and have the loot "disappear" from the list when distributed? |
| 19:43.55 | eternally777 | Then what will make compost unnecessary? |
| 19:43.55 | Xuerian | It'd jump to the "Picked up" loot list |
| 19:44.08 | Mikma | Xuerian: that's pretty darn nice idea |
| 19:44.23 | mjc | be nice if it'd show dkp |
| 19:44.27 | mjc | and also track all the loot distributed |
| 19:44.28 | mjc | etc. |
| 19:44.31 | Mikma | but the problem is to get the raidleader to install xloot+modules |
| 19:44.38 | Mikma | the twats don't even know it exists :D |
| 19:44.47 | oxman | :p |
| 19:44.49 | Mikma | Xuerian: oh i know what to do |
| 19:44.50 | mjc | so lead your own raids |
| 19:45.13 | Mikma | Xuerian: make it have BW as OptDep. then if boss gets defeated it will capture the paste from leader |
| 19:45.16 | Toufas | what modules are needed to run xloot efficiently? |
| 19:45.22 | Xuerian | Toufas: None |
| 19:45.36 | Xuerian | Each module is [will be] a extra feature |
| 19:45.38 | CIA-11 | 03delsphynx * r13016 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:45.38 | CIA-11 | ag_UnitFrames: Added option for smooth health bar coloring, added a couple of |
| 19:45.38 | CIA-11 | "spaces" in the dewdrop menu to help subdivide it just a bit, removed Cracked |
| 19:45.38 | CIA-11 | bar texture because let's face it, it just didn't look good! (I added it in the |
| 19:45.38 | CIA-11 | first place :) ) |
| 19:45.53 | Thiana | Is there a way to tell if an open loot frame is from a mob kill vs from skinning/herbing/etc? |
| 19:46.13 | Xuerian | I'd only do it for boss moms, I think |
| 19:46.16 | eternally777 | And how exactly does one close a table efficiently? I learned with Compost there, but if I won't be using compost after 5.1, I'd like to know what I should be doing... |
| 19:46.20 | Xuerian | s/moms/mobs/ |
| 19:46.24 | Mikma | Thiana: is there any babble's to do that? |
| 19:46.43 | Xuerian | And yes, Thiana |
| 19:46.48 | Xuerian | A mob has to be targeted for loot to be open |
| 19:47.03 | Thiana | That doesnt help with skinning a boss mob (ie, The Beast/etc) :/ |
| 19:47.11 | Xuerian | Oh. X.x |
| 19:47.14 | Xuerian | Hm |
| 19:47.17 | Mikma | Xuerian: i know what to do! make XLootMaster add a little ! or something neat icon in the loot-window to paste the loot to chat :D |
| 19:47.20 | Xuerian | Not sure about that. |
| 19:47.27 | mjc | Xuerian: you can /script ClearTarget(); with the loot window open |
| 19:47.31 | Mikma | Xuerian: and now that we're on to it... |
| 19:47.41 | Xuerian | Yes, I'm going to do that too Mikma, but that'll just be a icon on the normal XLoot window |
| 19:47.55 | Xuerian | (Seeing as i want to leave the ability to use other lootmaster mods open) |
| 19:48.00 | Mikma | Xuerian: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3889-1-classmasterloot-v110.html <- have a look |
| 19:48.11 | Xuerian | Mikma: I'm not going to re-invent the wheel there |
| 19:48.14 | Mikma | that would be lovely to have in XLootMaster |
| 19:48.46 | Mikma | c'mon you can do it better than he has ;) |
| 19:49.11 | Xuerian | Current features for XML (wee xlm/xml) are: Priority list (Add/remove people to the top of the dropdown), Class eligibilty (item limitations only, via tooltip scanning) sorting over class sorting |
| 19:49.25 | Xuerian | s/Current/Planned/ |
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| 19:49.48 | JoshBorke | you do mean XLM right? or is it XMasterLoot? |
| 19:49.52 | Saroz | meeh, I can't get Banzai_UnitGainedAggro to fire |
| 19:49.57 | Xuerian | hmm |
| 19:50.24 | Mikma | Saroz: do you have the lib loaded? :D |
| 19:50.29 | Xuerian | Well, I'll just reference them as XLMaster and XLMonitor :P |
| 19:50.31 | Saroz | yea |
| 19:50.34 | Saroz | should be |
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| 19:50.51 | oxman | very boring to hack squishy |
| 19:51.01 | oxman | everything need to be rewrite about the frames :| |
| 19:51.02 | Saroz | I just did |
| 19:51.02 | Saroz | self:RegisterEvent("Banzai_UnitGainedAggro") |
| 19:51.02 | Saroz | self:RegisterEvent("Banzai_UnitLostAggro") |
| 19:51.09 | Xuerian | Mikma: I might expand XLMaster to include the dkp and other advanced features, but for now it'll be a Ace2'd EasyMasterLooter with a little improvement |
| 19:51.11 | Mikma | Xuerian: yeah or else we get confused like that :) |
| 19:51.25 | Saroz | ah it works now :p |
| 19:51.58 | mjc | Xuerian: I'd love you for that ;p |
| 19:52.00 | Mikma | haste: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1159989516670.jpg |
| 19:52.22 | Xuerian | Thiana: Do you have any suggestions for how to handle skinning bosses? Do you know if the mob stays targeted while you skin it, or does it disappear? |
| 19:52.40 | mjc | it disappears when you loot the skinned items |
| 19:52.48 | Xuerian | Then it should work fine |
| 19:52.50 | Mikma | Xuerian: just for you to know, you are propably the only one doing that kind of addon ;) so you will get funny requests in future :D |
| 19:52.57 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r13017 10sRaidFrames/ (libs/ sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFrames.toc sRaidFramesOptions.lua): sRaidFrames: Drop Squishy support, use BanzaiLib for aggro detection |
| 19:53.17 | Xuerian | Mikma: that's the only reason I can stand to work on XLoot, because I'm not forced to copy other mods =) |
| 19:53.18 | Thiana | Xuerian, No, because I need to know when the window is open *before* it's looted. |
| 19:53.29 | SH|Shabador | clad|work, how's oxman's changes working out? Are you uploading to svn? (Would really like class colored bars) |
| 19:53.43 | neale | lol he's at work |
| 19:53.48 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r13018 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Remove debug stuff :/ |
| 19:54.00 | SH|Shabador | He can probably do stuff at work. ^^ |
| 19:54.08 | Xuerian | Thiana: When the loot window opens on a boss say.... within a set time window (You can't beat the same boss twice in .... 5 minutes?), any new loot would get added to teh broadcast stack |
| 19:54.16 | neale | <clad> i'm at work so I can't do much, or be on irc. |
| 19:54.17 | neale | hm |
| 19:54.31 | haste | Mikma, haha |
| 19:54.38 | mjc | Xuerian: skinning loot is a second loot window |
| 19:54.48 | mjc | also, pickpocketing might make 3 loot windows possible |
| 19:54.58 | Xuerian | MJC: it's all one loot window |
| 19:55.03 | mjc | I meant |
| 19:55.06 | mjc | 3 windows from the same target |
| 19:55.16 | Xuerian | Which is why I'm limiting it to bosses |
| 19:56.04 | Xuerian | Otherwise I wouldn't have a way to tell if "Xxxx blackrock nubins" was really the first Xxxxx blackrock nubins", or one of the other 20 we killed. Only the "Leader of Blackrock nubins" would have his loot/skin broadcast |
| 19:56.42 | mjc | nubins. haha |
| 19:56.43 | Xuerian | Seeing as the loot list is re-built every time a corpse is looted/a item is looted from said corpse |
| 19:56.46 | CIA-11 | 03delsphynx * r13019 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Added the [raidgroup] tag |
| 19:57.06 | mjc | nice, I wanted one of those |
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| 19:57.47 | Xuerian | Mikma: And yeah, I know I'll get a lot of odd requests, the only way I can stand to work on Xloot is because I'm not forced to copy other people's features. I hate doing that =) (Though I don't mind ninja-ing snippets ;D) |
| 19:58.01 | Mikma | Xuerian: askaninja.com! |
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| 19:58.25 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1837.msg48994#msg48994 |
| 19:58.34 | Xuerian | Haha |
| 19:58.37 | Mikma | i'm not sure what is that guys problem |
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| 20:01.04 | Xuerian | Surprisingly well explained, but no problem seems obvious =\ /me goes to install bartender to test while testing various other things on his rogue. |
| 20:01.34 | Mikma | http://bin.4chan.org/an/src/1159762587454.jpg |
| 20:02.59 | malreth | awwwwwwwww! |
| 20:03.13 | Mikma | owned. |
| 20:03.43 | malreth | if you haven't read this thread... take a look: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=31213336&sid=1 |
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| 20:04.12 | Mikma | aye that's a good one. got it some time ago |
| 20:04.22 | malreth | the over-the-head health bars that appear when you press V may be more modifiable than once thought |
| 20:05.00 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r13020 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Set aggro default (off) |
| 20:05.31 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r13021 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesOptions.lua: sRaidFrames: Add option to sort subgroups by Blizzard Default sorting |
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| 20:08.40 | JoshBorke | what's it say? it's taking too long |
| 20:08.57 | Xuerian | It's Gello going into how to hide nameplates |
| 20:09.15 | Xuerian | Then a burgeoning discussion on doing more than just that with nameplates :p |
| 20:09.18 | eternally777 | It says you can get the nameplates using WorldFrame:GetChildren() |
| 20:09.28 | Saroz | nice |
| 20:09.29 | JoshBorke | ah, ok |
| 20:09.32 | Saroz | Gellos is pro tbh |
| 20:09.35 | Saroz | Gello* |
| 20:09.46 | eternally777 | Bill Gates IRL, no doubt |
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| 20:11.40 | JoshBorke | hm, i'd like to see the response to this latest development |
| 20:11.53 | JoshBorke | because those statusbars know where a person is on screen |
| 20:12.04 | eternally777 | How do you dispose of a table "properly", without the use of compost? |
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| 20:12.42 | eternally777 | Or, where can I find this information? |
| 20:13.04 | JoshBorke | eternally777: nil out all of the contents |
| 20:13.19 | malreth | eternally777: depends on what you mean by properly |
| 20:13.41 | vhaarr | for i in pairs(table) do table[i] = nil end, table.setn(table, 0), table = nil |
| 20:13.42 | Mikma | http://askaninja.com/ninja/revver/1629?width=320&height=278 |
| 20:13.45 | Mikma | zomg :D |
| 20:13.47 | vhaarr | and recurse that if needed |
| 20:13.52 | eternally777 | *shrug* Compost has been there for me since day 1. |
| 20:13.53 | malreth | if you mean in the "don't generate excess garbage" sense, you keep a pool of tables that you reuse by retaining and then eventually releasing them... |
| 20:14.33 | eternally777 | What about weakness? |
| 20:14.41 | JoshBorke | anyone know if Compost uses a staggered cleaning process that only nils out a table periodically instead of when they are reclaimed? |
| 20:14.51 | JoshBorke | eternally777: compost doesn't handle any table with meta tables |
| 20:14.54 | malreth | if you mean in the "make sure they get garbage collected", remove all references to the table... it and the contents will get GCed eventually |
| 20:15.01 | eternally777 | Well, I want to stop using compost |
| 20:15.09 | eternally777 | That's why I want to learn how to do it myself |
| 20:15.17 | vhaarr | I just told you :) |
| 20:15.19 | vhaarr | for i in pairs(table) do table[i] = nil end, table.setn(table, 0), table = nil |
| 20:15.24 | JoshBorke | if you know exactly how your table is set up then do what vhaar said |
| 20:15.40 | eternally777 | So recycling it as malreth suggested is pointless? |
| 20:15.42 | vhaarr | although I think table.setn won't work in 5.1 |
| 20:15.49 | eternally777 | no, it won't |
| 20:15.58 | eternally777 | The "#" operator is replacing it |
| 20:16.01 | JoshBorke | eternally777: use the recycling as malreth suggested |
| 20:16.03 | eternally777 | whatever that means. |
| 20:16.07 | malreth | eternally777: like i said. it depends on what your definition of 'properly' is |
| 20:16.27 | eternally777 | Will it be worth the trouble to recycle a table after 5.1? |
| 20:16.53 | malreth | eternally777: it depends. |
| 20:17.05 | eternally777 | I'm more interested in recycling, but if recycling were still important after 5.1, people wouldn't be telling me compost will be useless |
| 20:17.40 | JoshBorke | just because we'll get incremental garbage collection doesn't mean we should dump all of our spiffy stuff |
| 20:17.49 | malreth | if you only require a new table once every time a user uses a slash command, for instance... it's not worth it to recycle... |
| 20:18.11 | eternally777 | malreth: but will it hurt anything to recycle |
| 20:18.24 | malreth | if you're generating and using 50 tables every frame of animation... you will benefit from recycling your tables and reusing them |
| 20:18.38 | malreth | eternally777: again... it depends |
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| 20:19.27 | eternally777 | So then, just to compare, what would be the process of recycling a table, rather than nilling and setn=0 |
| 20:19.37 | malreth | if your use of tables is like my first example... you will have written a lot of support code to recycle tables which will probably use more memory than just letting the GC collect them |
| 20:21.08 | Tekkub | erf |
| 20:21.20 | malreth | see... you're asking a question like this, "guys should I use a screwdriver or a hammer" |
| 20:21.33 | nevcairiel | screwdriver, obviously |
| 20:21.46 | malreth | our answer is, "you should know *how* to use both" |
| 20:22.05 | malreth | and, "you should know why you use a nail instead of a screw and a screw instead of a nail" |
| 20:22.05 | Tekkub | eternally777, Compost will probably be unneeded, yes |
| 20:22.15 | axxo | aint no problem a hammer can't solve. |
| 20:22.17 | Tekkub | but you should still keep the table creation to a minimum |
| 20:22.31 | malreth | finally, "then you will know if you should use a screwdriver or a hammer" |
| 20:22.41 | Tekkub | compost is more costly than GC, but GC is annoying |
| 20:22.48 | eternally777 | Tekkub: So you're implying that recycling of tables is still a good choice? |
| 20:22.56 | Tekkub | in 5.1 the GC is spread out an not annoying |
| 20:23.15 | haste | you don't get the "Hey, let's dump this truck of trash" spikes |
| 20:23.18 | Tekkub | I'm implying that you use what you searned from compost to keep your table use minimal |
| 20:23.19 | malreth | eternally777: recycling of tables is a good choice if it makes sense for the code that you're writing |
| 20:23.30 | eternally777 | malreth: I know it's situational. |
| 20:23.36 | Tekkub | learned even |
| 20:23.37 | eternally777 | malreth: That much is clear. |
| 20:23.54 | eternally777 | Assume I'm writing a "table-heavy" mod |
| 20:23.59 | andreasg | oh yes, is it still better to use compost after Lua 5.1? |
| 20:24.16 | Tekkub | it's likely that come 5.1 I'll just force compost into "disabled" mode where it doesn't do any recycling |
| 20:24.17 | eternally777 | See, I'm not the only one who can benefit from this discussion. |
| 20:24.18 | malreth | if table heavy then yes... you should probably recycle |
| 20:24.30 | Tekkub | the code's already in place, just has to be turned on |
| 20:24.31 | eternally777 | Ok, but *how* |
| 20:25.01 | Tekkub | eternally777, you should keep table creation to a minimum, period |
| 20:25.03 | malreth | by taking a code snapshot of Compost now and using that after Tekkub screws his published copy up. |
| 20:25.08 | eternally777 | Tekkub: I found that out yesterday while reading Compost |
| 20:25.30 | malreth | :D |
| 20:25.58 | malreth | eternally777: here's what i'll say... |
| 20:26.04 | malreth | first, just write your code. |
| 20:26.05 | eternally777 | See, I understand how to do stuff, there's plenty of docs on how such-and-such function/operation works |
| 20:26.06 | Tekkub | malreth, Compost:Erase won't change, and I'd rather people use that over Reclaim/Acquire if they can |
| 20:26.21 | malreth | don't worry about performance... optimization comes later |
| 20:26.26 | eternally777 | But I have no idea when such-and-such function is better than so-and-so operation |
| 20:26.33 | Tekkub | but the disable code makes GetTable return a new table, and Reclaim doesn't cache anything |
| 20:27.06 | Tekkub | eternally777, that's when you get tekSupport up and TEST |
| 20:27.16 | malreth | yes... Test. Profile your code |
| 20:27.30 | malreth | that is how you determine if you have to make improvements and where |
| 20:27.41 | Tekkub | that's exactly why the disable code is in compost, to test |
| 20:28.03 | Tekkub | compost also keeps stats so you can estimate how much memory churn it prevents |
| 20:28.09 | JoshBorke | Tekkub: how expensive IS compost table recycling? should it be used in AceComm? |
| 20:28.28 | Tekkub | hell, I've not looked at those numbers since everyone started using compost all hardcore, I wonder how big they are now |
| 20:28.49 | Tekkub | it's not very expensive |
| 20:29.09 | Tekkub | but it is more expensive than GC... it's just that GC is a big lump operation |
| 20:29.15 | Tekkub | compost spreads out the load |
| 20:29.43 | JoshBorke | Tekkub: do you do the nil'ing out when the call is made or on an interval? |
| 20:30.00 | Tekkub | what niling? |
| 20:30.12 | JoshBorke | erm, the reclaiming? |
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| 20:30.27 | Tekkub | reclaim reclaims when you tell it to |
| 20:30.37 | Mikk | Compost can't take control of something |
| 20:30.40 | malreth | you don't have to nil the contents of a table for it to be garbage collected |
| 20:30.44 | Mikk | The caller is responsible for niling |
| 20:30.48 | ckknight | AceComm already recycles. |
| 20:31.05 | ckknight | it uses its own compost-style recycling. |
| 20:31.15 | Tekkub | okey lets rephrase |
| 20:31.25 | Tekkub | reclaim erases, resets, and caches the table |
| 20:31.38 | Tekkub | YOUR CODE needs to nil out it's local when it reclaims |
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| 20:31.52 | Tekkub | else you edit the table later and fuck over whoever got the table |
| 20:32.07 | JoshBorke | but the erasing is done as soon as the call is made to Reclaim(t) |
| 20:32.16 | Tekkub | yes |
| 20:32.54 | JoshBorke | would there be any performance gain from saving erasing for later? if Compost is being used heavily? |
| 20:33.31 | Tekkub | only if you're doing so much reclaiming at once that it rivals a GC sweep |
| 20:33.43 | Tekkub | Compost is used heavily, and I've not seen that happen |
| 20:33.59 | Tekkub | mendy/PT have some big reclaims at times due to nested tables |
| 20:35.21 | Tekkub | frankly, I'm happy with compost's performance, and soon it'll be unneeded anyway |
| 20:35.57 | malreth | mjc... 50s... |
| 20:36.10 | mjc | heh |
| 20:37.22 | mjc | hmm |
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| 20:37.26 | Mikk | Saving reclaiming for later would likely hide reference problems |
| 20:37.27 | mjc | I can't click on links with prat enabled atm |
| 20:37.43 | Mikk | If you reclaim something and then use it, your code will likely cause errors because everything is niled, so you spot the problem. |
| 20:37.58 | Mikk | (With today's approach, that is) |
| 20:38.25 | haste | mjc, justify'd? |
| 20:38.34 | mjc | yep |
| 20:44.03 | malreth | purl, mjc |
| 20:44.08 | purl | mjc owes malreth 50s. |
| 20:44.13 | malreth | that's RIGHT! |
| 20:44.14 | Industrial | haste: please move oUF2 to trunk and fix the sliders :< |
| 20:44.46 | haste | Industrial, I don't have SVN installed on this computer |
| 20:45.05 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=810 |
| 20:45.06 | Industrial | or |
| 20:45.06 | haste | and I don't want to drycode change the sliders :p |
| 20:45.11 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=13027 |
| 20:45.12 | Industrial | ? |
| 20:45.39 | Industrial | last one eh? |
| 20:45.40 | haste | none, go L60 :3 |
| 20:45.45 | Industrial | :< |
| 20:45.49 | malreth | i actually got a Hammer of the Northern Wind |
| 20:46.00 | malreth | got it in un'goro |
| 20:46.01 | Industrial | haste: im on my way to winterspring \o/ |
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| 20:46.15 | malreth | sold it for 80g or something like that |
| 20:46.28 | haste | Industrial, Do L50 to L60 in three days, and your just like me |
| 20:46.36 | neale | obsessive? |
| 20:46.38 | neale | :) |
| 20:46.39 | Industrial | haste: ... |
| 20:46.48 | haste | noes, the last ten levels of WoW is my favorite part :D |
| 20:46.57 | neale | ugh. |
| 20:47.04 | neale | want to run my priest to 60, haste :p |
| 20:47.09 | haste | I have like several days on L1 - L10 tho' |
| 20:47.09 | malreth | ok... no more work today! |
| 20:47.19 | haste | since I end up doing something else when I start a char |
| 20:47.42 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6660 |
| 20:47.42 | Industrial | ! |
| 20:48.13 | Industrial | meh |
| 20:48.15 | Industrial | :| |
| 20:48.17 | haste | :D |
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| 20:50.15 | MoonWolf | <haste> noes, the last ten levels of WoW is my favorite part :D <- worst part ever. |
| 20:50.17 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: wb |
| 20:50.25 | neale | i agree with moonwolf |
| 20:50.29 | haste | :( |
| 20:50.29 | MoonWolf | 1-10 wait its over already |
| 20:50.34 | neale | drags like crazy |
| 20:50.37 | MoonWolf | 10 - 30 - lots of fun |
| 20:50.44 | MoonWolf | 30 - 45 kinda a darg |
| 20:50.51 | CIA-11 | 03thisterhall * r13022 10XAD/core.lua: Fixed the bug 'attempt to index field `position' (a nil value)' and the bug on reenabling XAD Error: Metrognome-2.0: A timer with the name XAD_EnterDelay is already registered |
| 20:50.52 | neale | actually on a priest - 40-50 was fun |
| 20:50.57 | MoonWolf | 45 - 55 not to bad. |
| 20:51.09 | MoonWolf | 45 - 50* |
| 20:51.15 | neale | just because you get shadowform and horse at 40 :) |
| 20:51.31 | [FH]Birdemani | The new Photek is Ace2? didnt know that |
| 20:51.36 | neale | yeah mostly |
| 20:51.43 | haste | meh, I _really_ dislike the 1-50 part :( |
| 20:51.46 | MoonWolf | where do you think the last 40 people in this channel came from |
| 20:51.53 | MoonWolf | i blame photek completly for that. |
| 20:51.56 | haste | hehe |
| 20:51.57 | [FH]Birdemani | hehe |
| 20:52.02 | Industrial | whats photek |
| 20:52.04 | [FH]Birdemani | well, how is the UI? |
| 20:52.05 | Industrial | =P |
| 20:52.08 | neale | ui compilation |
| 20:52.10 | haste | I remember back in the days, when it was only 20 people in ##ace |
| 20:52.14 | neale | ah |
| 20:52.25 | Industrial | I remember when there were only 10, hah! |
| 20:52.39 | haste | I didn't release add ons back then! |
| 20:52.46 | Industrial | idd |
| 20:52.57 | MoonWolf | I remember when there as less then 10, wait that was a netsplit. |
| 20:53.00 | Industrial | I have a question |
| 20:53.04 | haste | I know, remember fixing your idchat since you went emo before a patch :p |
| 20:53.12 | Industrial | How do Attack Power and Strength relate? |
| 20:53.21 | Industrial | How do you compare them |
| 20:53.29 | MoonWolf | some classes get AP for points in strenght. |
| 20:53.35 | Industrial | im warrior |
| 20:53.42 | MoonWolf | 2 ap for one str |
| 20:53.45 | MoonWolf | i think. |
| 20:54.04 | Industrial | so +36 attack power or +10 strength and +10 stamina? |
| 20:54.10 | [FH]Birdemani | yes for war 1str is 2AP |
| 20:54.21 | CIA-11 | 03thisterhall * r13023 10XAD/Libs/: Added missing external |
| 20:54.21 | [FH]Birdemani | depends, pvp or pve? |
| 20:54.29 | Industrial | will go pvp |
| 20:54.35 | MoonWolf | take the second one. |
| 20:54.36 | [FH]Birdemani | stam and str |
| 20:54.39 | Industrial | k |
| 20:54.47 | haste | :o ? |
| 20:55.03 | Industrial | shopping is fun, in games O_< |
| 20:55.40 | [FH]Birdemani | I didnt realize photek was a compliation, looking at this I have most of that UI already |
| 20:55.46 | Xuerian | It's like that one fanart. Nelf asked to fill buzzboxes: Ok!. Nelf asked to kill 20 bears: Sure! Girl asked to take out trash: Take it out yourself! >< |
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| 20:58.11 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r13024 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Don't need AceHook, dunno wth |
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| 21:05.23 | Galencia | Mikma: haha, xad kinda thinks its ok to use flask of supreme power instead of arcane elixir :D |
| 21:08.03 | neale | yikes |
| 21:08.39 | JoshBorke | is Xad compatible with the Sprocket-Autobar? |
| 21:11.06 | Galencia | but on the other hand its kinda fun to be flasked up now :p |
| 21:11.09 | Galencia | 3k frostbolt crits ftw. |
| 21:12.51 | neale | costly fun, unfortunately :) |
| 21:14.24 | vhaarr | is delsphynx on irc? |
| 21:16.37 | Health | Saroz: Liked the buff timer patch thingy? A friend at work who did it :P |
| 21:16.56 | Xuerian | good lord, Hoodwinked is retarded... |
| 21:17.55 | Galencia | neale: indeed :) |
| 21:18.10 | Galencia | neale: some priest thinks its funny to PI me on huhurun tho |
| 21:18.17 | Galencia | i crit 2x3k in a row |
| 21:18.19 | Galencia | and almost pulled aggo |
| 21:18.20 | neale | i wish a priest would do that to me |
| 21:18.29 | Galencia | yeah on huhuh before 30% its not a good thing :p |
| 21:18.32 | deci | hmm, how hard would it be to change autobars skin to match bt2_circled? |
| 21:18.35 | neale | :) true true |
| 21:18.53 | Galencia | when i want them to do it.. nope |
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| 21:20.59 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r13026 10Clique/ (Clique.lua license.txt): Clique: Clique is now licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-NoDerivs 2.5 license. See license.txt for more information, along with the addon header. |
| 21:21.46 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r13027 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua license.txt): PerfectRaid: PerfectRaid is now licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-NoDerivs 2.5 license. See license.txt for more information, along with the addon header. |
| 21:22.19 | neale | interesting |
| 21:22.22 | cladhaire | Thats just fluff.. it just says that if you make a derivitive copy of either, that you not distribute it. On top of that, I ask that you submit any code changes to me. |
| 21:22.46 | cladhaire | Just want to make sure people understand how I feel/what I expect with regards to my addons. Not that there has been an issue, but =) |
| 21:22.51 | neale | fluff? "No Derivative Works. You may not alter, transform, or build upon this work." doesn't look like fluff :) |
| 21:22.57 | cladhaire | been thinking about it for a while |
| 21:22.58 | mjc | something's going apeshite with my increasing rate, lately. |
| 21:23.23 | cladhaire | neale: No one currently distributes derivitive works of either, so yes, it is fluff. |
| 21:23.54 | neale | fair enough :) |
| 21:24.27 | cladhaire | you can always make a deritive work, it just must be for personal use only (fair use) =) |
| 21:24.34 | cladhaire | Your fair use and other rights are in no way affected by the above. <3 |
| 21:24.37 | neale | hehe |
| 21:24.52 | Xuerian | So someone can't modify it for their guild's use? o_O |
| 21:29.47 | JoshBorke | woohoo! i got my zip script working! |
| 21:29.54 | vhaarr | It's not retroactive, you can use the codebase for anything up to the latest revision. |
| 21:30.40 | Xuerian | vhaarr: It just doesn't really make sense to me, not that it's actually bad in any way... Does it mean branching current code is against the license too, since that's technically opening it for distribution? |
| 21:30.51 | vhaarr | Depends on the license, I haven't read it. |
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| 21:32.31 | cladhaire | vhaarr: Yes, without permission of the author |
| 21:32.45 | cladhaire | Its not a change, its how my addons have always been.. either locked down, or I contact someone who makes changes. |
| 21:32.56 | cladhaire | err |
| 21:33.02 | cladhaire | Xuerian: |
| 21:33.08 | cladhaire | vhaarr: Thats correct |
| 21:33.09 | vhaarr | Thought so :) |
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| 21:33.18 | eternally777 | Ironically someone asked a question regarding this earlier, if they had to ask before branching |
| 21:33.18 | Saroz | Health, ye |
| 21:33.35 | cladhaire | eternally777: heh |
| 21:33.40 | vhaarr | eternally777: Wasn't that someone oxman ? |
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| 21:33.51 | vhaarr | I don't think he understands anything except "vin". |
| 21:33.52 | Xuerian | It makes sense, I question out of pure aversion to rules vs trust =) |
| 21:33.52 | cladhaire | lol it may have been |
| 21:34.00 | Xuerian | Yes, it was oxman. |
| 21:34.03 | eternally777 | vhaarr: I think it was lacindas? |
| 21:34.08 | vhaarr | I don't know. |
| 21:34.18 | vhaarr | oxman asked maia about branching Squishy. |
| 21:34.25 | cladhaire | I wouldn't be suprised if oxman wanted to branch perfectRaid.. *shrug* but I've talked to him and he knows how I feel about my addons. |
| 21:34.56 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r13028 10FuBar_ToFu/ (FuBar_ToFu.toc ToFu.lua): |
| 21:34.56 | CIA-11 | FuBar_ToFu |
| 21:34.56 | CIA-11 | -Revert change to price-display from 12957 |
| 21:34.56 | CIA-11 | -Added Ace2 to X-Embeds and OptionalDeps in TOC |
| 21:35.08 | oxman | :) |
| 21:35.21 | cladhaire | :) |
| 21:35.24 | Xuerian | Really, his layout looked really good =P |
| 21:35.26 | neale | the changes to praid, at least from that screenshot, are gorgeous |
| 21:35.28 | neale | :) |
| 21:35.41 | cladhaire | neale: Depends on if you like that style, not everyone does.. but I'm goign to grab some of them and pull them in. |
| 21:36.00 | oxman | in fact, cladhaire will only take the 1k display for health |
| 21:36.04 | oxman | and maybe the aggro style |
| 21:36.07 | cladhaire | There's only so much flexibility without a layout system, which I have.. but isn't entirely easy to add an alternate layout. |
| 21:36.08 | oxman | and maybe the selector |
| 21:36.10 | cladhaire | oxman: Why do you say that? |
| 21:36.12 | oxman | but not the frame style :') |
| 21:36.15 | oxman | because i know you |
| 21:36.16 | oxman | ;) |
| 21:36.25 | cladhaire | I won't make the frames that large, because my users can't have frames that large |
| 21:36.28 | cladhaire | =) |
| 21:36.33 | cladhaire | once we hit 25 man raids, I'd consider it in an instant :P |
| 21:36.37 | cladhaire | The style I like, |
| 21:36.40 | vhaarr | cladhaire: By the way, did you see that bug I talked about in this channel a few hours ago? |
| 21:36.40 | cladhaire | I don't like the size |
| 21:36.45 | oxman | in a 40 raid members, it take "lots of place" |
| 21:36.48 | cladhaire | vhaarr: Possibly, what was it? |
| 21:36.49 | oxman | but it can be put on a screen |
| 21:36.51 | oxman | i've try :) |
| 21:36.55 | cladhaire | oxman: Exactly =) |
| 21:37.08 | vhaarr | cladhaire: Edit box not appearing after you close the icon view in Clique |
| 21:37.13 | oxman | (1280x1024 .74 ui scale) |
| 21:37.41 | oxman | maybe it look good also with one or two pixels lesser height |
| 21:37.44 | oxman | i've not try |
| 21:37.45 | cladhaire | oxman: hehehe like I said.. it'd be hot for 25 man raids =) |
| 21:37.48 | cladhaire | the STYLE i plan to look at |
| 21:37.53 | cladhaire | they just won't be that big =) |
| 21:38.07 | oxman | in fact i don't do raid anymore for the moment |
| 21:38.11 | oxman | so its very good for arathi ;D |
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| 21:38.25 | cladhaire | perfect for AB =) |
| 21:38.28 | cladhaire | i'd like them for bgs :P |
| 21:38.32 | oxman | :p |
| 21:38.44 | cladhaire | you said that's [Ammo]'s style? Its very slick |
| 21:38.49 | oxman | and my squishy is nice now :') but not perfect :p |
| 21:38.58 | oxman | i say that because i've copy this style from ora2 mt frames :) |
| 21:39.19 | neale | i miss the group #'s. <hides> |
| 21:39.31 | oxman | well men |
| 21:39.36 | oxman | are go sleeping |
| 21:39.41 | oxman | see you tomorrow |
| 21:39.43 | oxman | good night :) |
| 21:39.48 | Xuerian | 'night oxman :P |
| 21:39.51 | neale | bye |
| 21:40.12 | haste | wee |
| 21:40.17 | haste | I get my card tomorrow |
| 21:40.19 | cladhaire | Xuerian: Thats easy to remedy, the highlight texture can be made smaller, and the bars bigger |
| 21:40.22 | cladhaire | its a small change |
| 21:40.28 | deci | :) yay haste |
| 21:40.36 | cladhaire | card? |
| 21:40.41 | haste | then I can finish oCrossdresser :3 |
| 21:40.42 | deci | video card |
| 21:40.52 | haste | cladhaire, I had my graphic card sent in 'cause if fried itself |
| 21:40.55 | deci | since he exploded his last one |
| 21:41.04 | Xuerian | cladhaire: Oh o.O.. Nifty. |
| 21:41.08 | haste | with factory settings |
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| 21:41.40 | vhaarr | Is delsphynx on IRC? |
| 21:41.54 | vhaarr | ~seen delsphynx |
| 21:42.14 | purl | vhaarr: i haven't seen 'delsphynx' |
| 21:42.15 | vhaarr | ~seen purl |
| 21:42.17 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (9d 31m 32s) #botpark (9d 31m 32s) #linuxfund (9d 31m 32s) #wowi-lounge (9d 31m 32s) # (9d 31m 32s) #edev (9d 31m 32s) #fossfund (9d 31m 32s) #hosernet (9d 31m 32s) #classiccmp (9d 31m 32s) #creativeforum (9d 31m 32s) #ud (9d 31m 32s) #dub (9d 31m 32s) #teleconf ... |
| 21:42.17 | vhaarr | .. |
| 21:42.18 | neale | lol |
| 21:42.19 | cladhaire | haste: oooh nice! |
| 21:43.03 | haste | cladhaire, been without a graphic card for a week now |
| 21:43.15 | haste | only computer I've used is this 700Mhz laptop running Windows |
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| 21:45.30 | Tekkub | bleh |
| 21:45.31 | cladhaire | haste: =( sade face |
| 21:45.46 | Xuerian | How are you still sane, haste? |
| 21:45.49 | Tekkub | clown hat curly hair winking smiley face |
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| 21:46.04 | haste | Xuerian, I spent a day twinking the laptop, so it can play 1280x720 videos :D |
| 21:46.08 | mjc | lol tek |
| 21:46.29 | haste | s/twink/tweak/ |
| 21:46.33 | haste | todays best typo |
| 21:46.43 | Xuerian | lol |
| 21:48.18 | haste | it works tho'! |
| 21:48.28 | Tekkub | so this guy came in to my work today |
| 21:48.32 | Tekkub | and he was Hung |
| 21:48.38 | neale | how do you know |
| 21:48.48 | Tekkub | it said so on his shirt |
| 21:48.58 | neale | don't believe everything you read :) |
| 21:49.01 | deci | there needs to be an easy way to change the autobar border to mimic bt2_circled |
| 21:49.04 | mjc | Mr. Hung |
| 21:49.17 | mjc | wtf is autobar |
| 21:49.52 | deci | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4430-1-autobar-toadkiller.html |
| 21:50.03 | Tekkub | Mikk, you still here? |
| 21:50.06 | neale | is that ace2? |
| 21:50.11 | mjc | why should I care |
| 21:50.13 | neale | if you were talking about xad i could see it |
| 21:50.29 | deci | its not ace2'd yet |
| 21:50.32 | deci | it will be soon |
| 21:50.51 | mjc | there are 80 million bar mods out there |
| 21:51.02 | neale | autobar is like xad isn't it |
| 21:51.02 | mjc | and bar2 seems to use the least memory & cpu of them all |
| 21:51.21 | Tekkub | autobar is by... Him |
| 21:51.30 | neale | the devil, yes |
| 21:51.31 | neale | heh |
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| 22:02.30 | Mikk | Tekkub: yes |
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| 22:08.17 | Tekkub | Mikk, can you get with Thrae and get the wiki script to blacklist website fields that have wowinterface.com in em, since we got other fields to use there... |
| 22:08.17 | CIA-11 | 03skyboat * r13029 10Cyclone/Libs/: Cyclone: Updated libs/ |
| 22:08.21 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r13030 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Ok, enough! Reverting mana bar color.. |
| 22:08.30 | Tekkub | those links are massive and make the infobox a sad panda |
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| 22:10.19 | Mikk | (I'm kindof stumped as to changing that script now. I haven't even seen it for the last N revisions) |
| 22:10.44 | Cairenn | *blink* |
| 22:10.59 | CIA-11 | 03skyboat * r13031 10Cyclone/ (Libs/ libs/): Cyclone: Folder didn't rename properly, yes I'm picky like that. |
| 22:11.04 | Tekkub | Cairenn, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBar_OutfitterFu |
| 22:11.12 | Tekkub | I don't want that link like that |
| 22:11.22 | Tekkub | I want a Releases: WoWI link instead |
| 22:11.40 | Cairenn | ah |
| 22:11.40 | Tekkub | but I don't want to force people to remove that link from their website field |
| 22:12.02 | Mikk | so autoconvert it |
| 22:12.04 | Cairenn | I just misread what you said, and was wondering why you were suddenly blacklisting WoWI |
| 22:12.08 | Mikk | lol |
| 22:12.11 | Tekkub | autoconvert? |
| 22:12.12 | Mikk | not likely ;) |
| 22:12.37 | Mikk | Tekkub: If there's a website: wowi.... id=foo -> make a wowi release field? |
| 22:12.56 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5069-FuBar_-_OutfitterFu.html |
| 22:12.57 | kergoth | cladhaire: that license is pretty vague. if i make a local modification to perfectraid for me, i cant distribute it to the other people using my addon set? i cant put it in my svn repository, because the public can check it out? |
| 22:13.02 | Tekkub | nah, I'd rather the author explicitly define the field |
| 22:13.17 | kergoth | cladhaire: i think you should really give it more thought. i suspect the implications are more than you expected |
| 22:13.29 | Mikk | Tekkub: And if the author hasn't? |
| 22:13.32 | Cairenn | I know that link isn't any shorter, but it's the "better" one to use somehow or other, since that way has the actual mod name in it |
| 22:13.44 | Tekkub | it's on the SVN isn't it? *grin* |
| 22:14.10 | kergoth | cladhaire: note that that license also means that you're not allowing anyone to use code from perfectraid in their addons, as that would make them derivative works. |
| 22:14.25 | kergoth | cladhaire: since thats probably happened already, are those addons in violation of your license? |
| 22:15.10 | Mikk | If avoiding other people modding and redistributing PerfectRaid and thus causing more work for you is what you want to avoid, then say so :-P |
| 22:15.17 | Tekkub | not that I care about licenses anyway... |
| 22:15.38 | eternally777 | wtf is this guy doing to SW_Stats with SW_Stats2... |
| 22:15.40 | kergoth | that license has a great deal more impliciations than just not wanting people distributing modified versions without noting that they're modified versions |
| 22:15.53 | Saroz | eternally777, my thought exactly |
| 22:16.25 | cladhaire | kergoth: I'm still thinking about it |
| 22:16.28 | cladhaire | and i may pull it back out |
| 22:16.34 | eternally777 | "Users can now reset their meters whenever they want. [Because nobody uses it to benchmark raid performance ever, at all.]" |
| 22:16.36 | kergoth | well, perfecttargets is currently in violation, and probably a number of other licenses |
| 22:16.39 | kergoth | i suggest you think hard. |
| 22:16.47 | cladhaire | well, that code isn't covered. |
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| 22:16.47 | kergoth | and ask those who are familiar with software licensing |
| 22:16.53 | cladhaire | it was all released without a license. |
| 22:16.57 | cladhaire | i can't retroactively license it. |
| 22:17.04 | cladhaire | so everythign that currently exists is fine. |
| 22:17.05 | Kemayo | kergoth: The license couldn't be retroactive. Anything that people were allowed to do beforehand which has now been restricted, they won't be in violation of. |
| 22:17.08 | kergoth | right, but if he pulls a bugfix from you now, he's fucked. |
| 22:17.11 | cladhaire | but you make a point. |
| 22:17.19 | kergoth | oh noes, teh bugfix |
| 22:17.23 | cladhaire | i'll reconsider. |
| 22:17.31 | cladhaire | its a good basic argument =) |
| 22:17.37 | cladhaire | but i'll keep searching for something, for new addons |
| 22:17.37 | kergoth | even if i call a function in your addon from mine, thats a derviative works. |
| 22:17.40 | kergoth | s/s.$/./ |
| 22:17.46 | Kemayo | Of course, lacking _any_ license beforehand, no copying/distribution was allowed anyway. :) |
| 22:17.49 | kergoth | if your'e a library used by me, i'm derived from you |
| 22:17.58 | Mikk | goes to intent |
| 22:17.59 | cladhaire | i know |
| 22:18.05 | cladhaire | i'm aware |
| 22:18.32 | kergoth | Kemayo: depends on the country. in the US you're right, as everything is copyrighted implicitly whether people want it or specify it or not |
| 22:18.46 | Mikk | pretty much true for all civilized contries |
| 22:19.04 | kergoth | no offense, but if your addons dont allow me to use your functions, i'll stop using every addon you maintain. |
| 22:19.07 | Mikk | unless you're explicitly giving up rights, you have them |
| 22:19.10 | Arrowmaster | oh thats nice, now i cant fly anywhere because of FuBar_ToFu |
| 22:19.17 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r13032 10Clique/ (Clique.lua license.txt): Clique: Removed license. I said what I needed to in comments anyway. |
| 22:19.39 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r13033 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua license.txt): PerfectRaid: Removes license. I said what I needed to in comments anyway. |
| 22:19.43 | cladhaire | After I added the license, I added what I really meant in comments. |
| 22:19.59 | Kemayo | Arrowmaster: What error does it give? |
| 22:20.04 | cladhaire | all you really had to do was say something to make me realize that what i was trying to do wouldn't work in some generic manner, since my intent was ony to SIGNIFY intent either way =) |
| 22:20.06 | Mikk | I mostly just put my works in the public domain, and put in a "please don't modify redistribute under the same name -- though i can't force you not to". |
| 22:20.08 | Mikk | Works for me :-P |
| 22:20.20 | Arrowmaster | FuBar_ToFu\ToFu.lua:177: AceEvent-2.0: Bad argument #3 to `ScheduleRepeatingEvent' (string, function, or number expected, got nil) |
| 22:20.51 | Mikk | (And is less restrictive than &#%¤&#%¤ GPL) |
| 22:21.07 | kergoth | what bugs me about the gpl is people using it without understanding it |
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| 22:21.10 | kergoth | more free my ass |
| 22:21.15 | Mikk | mmh |
| 22:21.17 | cladhaire | haha |
| 22:21.17 | kergoth | its a conscious choice to restrict individual developer freedom |
| 22:21.17 | cladhaire | i agree. |
| 22:21.20 | kergoth | i'll use it sometimes |
| 22:21.22 | Kemayo | Damn, darkimakuni isn't in the channel. I need to persuade him to STOP COMMITTING BROKEN THINGS TO MY ADDONS. |
| 22:21.25 | kergoth | but not without understanding exactly what i'm doing |
| 22:21.29 | kergoth | normally i use MIT |
| 22:21.40 | kergoth | or BSD perhaps, but thats uglier since there are multuiple variants |
| 22:21.46 | Mikk | PD ftw |
| 22:21.53 | Mikk | "Go forth and do what the hell you want :-P" |
| 22:22.00 | Arrowmaster | yes people need to start testing stuff more before commiting them |
| 22:22.23 | kergoth | MIT is that too, just without letting them remove the copyright statements, since that isnt being relinquished |
| 22:22.51 | Kemayo | I don't care what he does to his stuff. But if he wants to rejig my addons, he should do it through branches. |
| 22:22.52 | Mikk | Yeah, it just gets silly when you're using half a dozen little libraries with the advertising clause in your software. |
| 22:23.18 | kergoth | i dont mind it, i always retain the copyright statements of everyone whose code i've used in my files, generally |
| 22:23.28 | kergoth | gets to be habit, to avoid legal issues |
| 22:23.35 | Mikk | I don't mind keeping it in source |
| 22:23.50 | kergoth | bsd with advert clause is the devil, and gpl incompatible |
| 22:23.50 | Mikk | It's having "--about" spew four screenfuls I mind :-P |
| 22:23.51 | kergoth | it can go fuck itself |
| 22:24.36 | Mikk | Well.. I mind not being able to write a kernel driver for Linux without it becoming GPL. |
| 22:25.06 | kergoth | you're welcome to make it public domain, or mit, its just "gpl" when linked in. i can still take the code and go use it somewhere else without holding to the gpl |
| 22:25.07 | Mikk | Even if I write it without using a single line of source code that is GPL, Linux kernel drivers are GPLed by definition. |
| 22:25.13 | Kemayo | Does AceEvent-2.0's :ScheduleRepeatingEvent pass the time-elapsed to functions called? |
| 22:25.24 | kergoth | ianal, but i've done gpl training in companies for the developers before |
| 22:25.24 | chrisa | There are a good degree of non-gpl kernel drivers, Nvidia comes to mind |
| 22:25.46 | Saroz | uhh license dicussions, love it... |
| 22:25.52 | kergoth | thats not what i'm talking about here though, i'm talking about more open licenses, not less. there is no explicit exception for binary drivers, just linus says he wont prosicute |
| 22:25.52 | Mikk | Because if something cannot run anywhere other than in Linux, it's considered a derivate work, and, as such, subject to GPL. (And this is from _several_ lawyers) |
| 22:26.33 | kergoth | depends on how you architect the driver though |
| 22:26.54 | kergoth | the whole thing neednt be a derivative work |
| 22:26.54 | Mikk | That's nice. Linus won't prosecute. How about the other ~500 kernel contributers? o.O |
| 22:27.39 | kergoth | theres no guarantee they wont, which is why i dislike the whole thing. linus shouldve gone with a different license, perhaps a modified gpl with exceptions |
| 22:27.56 | Mikk | Mmhm. Too late now. |
| 22:28.04 | Mikk | The GPL virus is in there and can never ever be removed. |
| 22:28.05 | yacoob | Mikk, nooo, he'll rise as a RMS-zombie! |
| 22:28.09 | Mikk | uhoh |
| 22:28.09 | kergoth | and while we're ranting, the gpl license text containing 'this version, or at your choice, any later version' or whatever, is fucked |
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| 22:28.23 | Mikk | kergoth: which the linux kernel doesn't contain |
| 22:28.31 | dreyruugr | cladhaire: can you even license an addon? |
| 22:28.31 | kergoth | and i remove that part from any code i write thats gpl, its that version or nothing, i dont like rms being able to dictate the terms |
| 22:28.32 | kergoth | i know |
| 22:28.40 | kergoth | numerous open source projects do though, without knowing any better |
| 22:28.44 | Mikk | dreyruugr: of course |
| 22:28.44 | dreyruugr | cladhaire: from what I understand, Blizzard owns them |
| 22:28.48 | Mikk | bullshit |
| 22:28.53 | dreyruugr | heh, read your tos |
| 22:29.06 | kergoth | itll be a derived work of wow, blizzard's code |
| 22:29.13 | PikPikerson | Interesting. |
| 22:29.14 | kergoth | since you cant write much of an addon without using their apis |
| 22:29.18 | PikPikerson | So what about what's going on with RDX? |
| 22:29.20 | Mikk | kergoth: sure i can |
| 22:29.22 | PikPikerson | he's charging for v6 |
| 22:29.25 | Mikk | i can run it on wowbench |
| 22:29.28 | Plorkyeran | No, he isn't |
| 22:29.29 | Mikk | so they can go f themselves |
| 22:29.38 | Plorkyeran | He's charging for access to the site |
| 22:29.48 | Plorkyeran | It's perfectly legal to redistribute RDX6 |
| 22:29.50 | kergoth | you're still using their apis, you just injected a replacement. thats iffy, i've done that before, replacing an lgpl library with a replacement with the same api |
| 22:29.52 | Arrowmaster | so if somebody leaks it, it cant do shit |
| 22:29.53 | Saroz | Health: I'm ready to add your buff duration thingie, if you can get the change in to ora2buffs |
| 22:29.56 | snurre | this is soo boring :( |
| 22:30.00 | Plorkyeran | It'll just get your account with the site banned |
| 22:30.04 | eternally777 | Is there a way to get a player's raid IDs? |
| 22:30.07 | kergoth | would have to talk to a lawyer about that one |
| 22:30.11 | PikPikerson | it's a technicality that blizzard won't care about |
| 22:30.13 | snurre | my live realm is down for 36h and they just took down alpha for a new build :( |
| 22:30.19 | kergoth | especially since the gpl is extremely vague about linking, runtime vs build time |
| 22:30.22 | Health | Saroz: It's Hiflyer that made it... I'll make him contact the autor of ora2buffs tomorrwo at work :) |
| 22:30.32 | dreyruugr | saying it runs on wowbench doesn't quite cut it |
| 22:30.38 | Mikk | how so? |
| 22:30.47 | dreyruugr | Do you recal the battlenet emulators? |
| 22:30.49 | Mikk | it's obviously not a derivate if it can run somewhere else |
| 22:30.53 | dreyruugr | And how that went in court? |
| 22:30.58 | Arrowmaster | hmm seems i didnt have the most recent version of FuBar_ToFu, gona have to test the new one |
| 22:31.05 | Plorkyeran | Bnetd wasn't killed for the emulation part |
| 22:31.10 | dreyruugr | If Blizzard chose to kill wowbench, they could |
| 22:31.20 | Saroz | Health, ok |
| 22:31.21 | dreyruugr | They wouldn't of course, but they could |
| 22:31.23 | Mikk | i should also point out that I live in Sweden. Swedish courts of law apply common sense, so I'm safe. |
| 22:31.26 | Plorkyeran | It was killed because it had to modify starcraft.exe to remove the cdkey check |
| 22:31.38 | kergoth | at any rate, most of my code doesnt use wow apis, i do it outside of wow and wowbench both, just in the lua interpreter. like AceOO, for example |
| 22:31.45 | kergoth | :P |
| 22:31.58 | PikPikerson | lol |
| 22:32.02 | PikPikerson | again a technicality |
| 22:32.06 | Mikk | no |
| 22:32.07 | Plorkyeran | Reverse engineering and implementing everything except for the encryption would have been legal |
| 22:32.08 | kergoth | Mikk: yay legal sanity |
| 22:32.19 | kergoth | the US government is on crack |
| 22:32.24 | Plorkyeran | And no, not a technicality |
| 22:32.28 | Mikk | PikPikerson: show me where i gave away my intellectual property? |
| 22:32.31 | Plorkyeran | AceOO is perfectly usable outside of WoW |
| 22:32.33 | kergoth | the patent office is on something worse |
| 22:32.56 | dreyruugr | point is, none of that would ever hold up in court |
| 22:33.21 | PikPikerson | The courts go for actual use, not stated intent. |
| 22:33.45 | Plorkyeran | Err, no |
| 22:33.54 | kergoth | AceOO would hold up in court, it was developed completely outside of wow, not even tested in wow until the rest of ace2 was developed, and does not derive from wow in any way, shape, or form |
| 22:33.56 | kergoth | other stuff perhaps |
| 22:33.56 | dreyruugr | Courts don't buy into "technicalities" like that. You can't write an AddOn and then say "Oh, really, it's only to be used in wowbench." and expect them to buy it |
| 22:33.57 | Plorkyeran | It isn't illegal to sell a gun because someone might use it to shoot someone |
| 22:34.18 | kergoth | gotta love copyright and licensing crap |
| 22:34.18 | dreyruugr | kergoth: doesn't matter.. Ace2 is designed for use in WoW |
| 22:34.22 | kergoth | uh? |
| 22:34.27 | Plorkyeran | Ace2, not AceOO |
| 22:34.29 | kergoth | no, i designed aceoo as a general lua object model |
| 22:34.30 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r13034 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Fix darkimakuni's horribly broken commit:12965. |
| 22:34.36 | kergoth | you can stop pulling shit out of your ass any day now |
| 22:34.36 | dreyruugr | AceOO is part of Ace2, correct? |
| 22:34.48 | Mikk | I'm not buying that derivative work argument to begin with tbh |
| 22:34.51 | Plorkyeran | It's a bundled library |
| 22:34.57 | kergoth | ace2 happens to include aceoo |
| 22:35.04 | kergoth | i bulit it for use in lua in general, not for wow |
| 22:35.28 | dreyruugr | Then perhaps AceOO would exempt |
| 22:35.39 | dreyruugr | but something as specific as "PerfectRaid" wouldn't |
| 22:35.45 | snurre | when is the new south park episode aired in us? |
| 22:35.48 | PikPikerson | What are you arguging for? That you can sell AceOO? |
| 22:35.57 | [FH]Birdemani | in a few hours south park airs |
| 22:36.01 | kergoth | no, i'm arguing that it isnt a derivative work of wow. that's all. |
| 22:36.10 | ckknight | AceOO and AceLibrary are made to work outside of WoW, with minimal tweaking |
| 22:36.14 | PikPikerson | I'll agree there. |
| 22:36.19 | ckknight | that's where most of the design took place |
| 22:36.22 | ckknight | outside of WoW. |
| 22:36.24 | Mikk | I for one want to know where dreyruugr is coming from with the whole derivative work argument to begin with. |
| 22:36.25 | dreyruugr | I'm simply pointing out that I don't think clad's inclusion of a license with PerfectRaid is in any way legally binding |
| 22:36.42 | Mikk | Apparently, we all work for Blizzard for free. |
| 22:36.52 | dreyruugr | Because Blizzard owns it |
| 22:36.56 | ckknight | copyright still exists, dreyruugr |
| 22:37.03 | Galencia | rofl |
| 22:37.12 | Galencia | priests get a targettable poh in tbc. |
| 22:37.19 | PikPikerson | Copyright does apply yes. |
| 22:37.29 | kergoth | poh? |
| 22:37.32 | PikPikerson | It's questionable whether or not you extend other rights to it. |
| 22:37.33 | snurre | hm |
| 22:37.35 | Plorkyeran | A. Blizzard Entertainment expressly reserves the exclusive right to create derivative works based on World of Warcraft. This means that you may not create derivative works based on World of Warcraft, without the prior express, written permission of Blizzard Entertainment. |
| 22:37.46 | Plorkyeran | If addons were derivative works, we wouldn't be allowed to make them |
| 22:37.46 | snurre | what did i miss? what's all this about licenses and stuff? |
| 22:37.58 | kergoth | Plorkyeran: do they not explicitly give that permission elsewhere? |
| 22:38.02 | Tekkub | poh == AoH? |
| 22:38.03 | kergoth | i'd be surprised if they didnt |
| 22:38.08 | Galencia | prayer of healing |
| 22:38.09 | Tekkub | Area of Healing :) |
| 22:38.09 | Jagobah | whoa what's the deal with Praid ?? |
| 22:38.13 | Plorkyeran | They explicitly give us permission to use them |
| 22:38.14 | dreyruugr | Plorkyeran: through exposure of the API and release of the interface kit I would say that they are permitted |
| 22:38.24 | dreyruugr | though to be sure, it's not really "written" |
| 22:38.29 | Mikk | You have yet to establish how an addon is a derivative work. |
| 22:38.38 | Arrowmaster | Kemayo: thanks, it works now |
| 22:38.48 | Tekkub | I liked the ol Curaga spell in FFXI |
| 22:38.50 | dreyruugr | Mikk: API usage |
| 22:38.52 | snurre | afaik vivendi just finished a trial about a book about WoW stuff and they lost.. i would assume addon trademarking would go under the same rule |
| 22:38.56 | Tekkub | cured your target and everyone near him |
| 22:39.08 | PikPikerson | I think you mean copyright. |
| 22:39.12 | Mikk | snurre: I never even use their trademarks |
| 22:39.14 | PikPikerson | Trademarking is totally different. |
| 22:39.18 | PikPikerson | Has to do with brand. |
| 22:39.18 | ckknight | snurre, trademarking? |
| 22:39.20 | kergoth | arguably, using an api makes you a derivative work, but its messy |
| 22:39.28 | snurre | isnt that what youre talking about? |
| 22:39.31 | Mikk | no |
| 22:39.31 | snurre | <-- clueless |
| 22:39.37 | Tekkub | "Coke is a trademark of the Coca-cola Bottling Group..." |
| 22:40.01 | Mikk | If I were to make an addon called "World of Warcraft" they could own me hard |
| 22:40.02 | Mikk | But I don't |
| 22:40.10 | dreyruugr | What I'm curious about is: |
| 22:40.11 | Mikk | So that's beside the point |
| 22:40.13 | dreyruugr | "All title, ownership rights and intellectual property rights in and to World of Warcraft (including without limitation any user accounts, titles, computer code, themes, objects, characters, character names, stories, dialogue, catch phrases, locations, concepts, artwork, animations, sounds, musical compositions, audio-visual effects, methods of operation, moral rights, any related documentation, " |
| 22:40.14 | dreyruugr | applets" incorporated into World of Warcraft, transcripts of the chat rooms, character profile information, recordings of games played on World of Warcraft, and the World of Warcraft client and server software) are owned by Blizzard Entertainment or its licensors." |
| 22:40.19 | PikPikerson | Mikk: Only if you sell it. |
| 22:40.20 | dreyruugr | The use of the word "applets" |
| 22:40.23 | PikPikerson | I believe. |
| 22:40.27 | dreyruugr | and if they mean addons |
| 22:40.31 | PikPikerson | Trademark law gets weird when you don't actually profit. |
| 22:40.34 | Mikk | PikPikerson: If I damage their brand. |
| 22:40.39 | dreyruugr | cause I can't imagine what they'd mean otherwise |
| 22:40.52 | PikPikerson | Which can be hard to prove. |
| 22:41.03 | Tekkub | "applet" INCORPORATED INTO |
| 22:41.06 | PikPikerson | Which is why it gets weird if you don't make profit for them to go after. |
| 22:41.10 | Tekkub | I.E. the blizzard addons |
| 22:41.24 | ckknight | PikPikerson, cost doesn't matter. |
| 22:41.33 | Tekkub | me addons aren't incorporated into the game :) |
| 22:41.38 | Mikk | yep |
| 22:42.20 | Plorkyeran | "The Game may contain materials licensed by third parties, and the licensors of those materials may enforce their rights in the event of any violation of this License Agreement." |
| 22:42.41 | dreyruugr | AddOns aren't licensed |
| 22:42.52 | Plorkyeran | Unless they are |
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| 22:43.12 | kergoth | that only talks about included in the game itself, not addons, plork, afaict |
| 22:43.23 | Tekkub | anyway, this is interesting and all, but I got dust I need to go watch settle on top of my fridge |
| 22:43.23 | snurre | wouldn't http://www.gamespot.com/news/6146692.html apply for this? |
| 22:43.25 | Tekkub | bbiab |
| 22:43.28 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:43.49 | Tekkub | Taurenshit |
| 22:44.01 | kergoth | copyright and licensing stuff is a mess any way you look at it |
| 22:44.06 | kergoth | next topic |
| 22:44.08 | kergoth | :P |
| 22:44.21 | PikPikerson | It's an academic exercise for most of us anyway. |
| 22:44.30 | PikPikerson | I'd say that most of us are fine with opensource and gpl |
| 22:44.49 | dreyruugr | bear in mind that in the agreement above, they're asserting owership of even "recordings of games played on World of Warcraft". The fact that they go so far as to claim that wouldn't lead me to believe their intent is to somehow exclude AddOns from their giant list of "What Blizzard Owns" |
| 22:45.08 | dreyruugr | kergoth: fair enough |
| 22:45.23 | Mikk | There's a veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery obvious line between stuff I wrote and stuff they wrote |
| 22:45.24 | kergoth | so.. how about them addons |
| 22:45.26 | Mikk | It's called copyright |
| 22:45.45 | Mikk | The gaming book thing is a trademark battle mostly. Whole different beast. |
| 22:45.58 | kergoth | its under your copyright regardless, the only question is whether you'd be subject to their licensing if they chose to exert it, as a result of being a possible derivative work |
| 22:46.00 | Mikk | Unless he screenshotted stuff, etc, in which case it's copyright too, but still irrelevant. |
| 22:46.03 | kergoth | and i dont think anyone here can speak with authority on it |
| 22:46.06 | kergoth | so lets just move on |
| 22:46.10 | Mikk | Yes, let's. |
| 22:46.14 | Plorkyeran | Although, a significant number of addons do have a significant amount of code copied and pasted from Blizz's stuff |
| 22:46.19 | Mikk | No :-P |
| 22:46.23 | Plorkyeran | And those are obviously derivative works |
| 22:47.44 | Mikk | I suspect a court would see it differently. |
| 22:48.01 | Mikk | Otherwise the whole world is in copyright violation for learning how to do something out of materials supplied with the intention of being instructive. |
| 22:48.23 | ckknight | I'm not fine with gpl, PikPikerson |
| 22:48.27 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:48.41 | ckknight | I'm a BSD fan |
| 22:48.44 | PikPikerson | Heh |
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| 22:49.15 | Mikk | RMS is just out to screw over anything running under a corporate logo |
| 22:49.17 | ckknight | RMS is an unrealistic wacko :-P |
| 22:49.26 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r13035 10Chronometer/ (Core/Chronometer-Locale.lua Core/Chronometer.lua readme.txt): Chonometer: Add a reverse bar growth option. |
| 22:49.27 | ckknight | I'm very pro-corporate |
| 22:49.27 | Mikk | Because he got screwed over once in his teens |
| 22:49.35 | vhaarr | I'm a big fan of the Mozilla tri-license scheme. |
| 22:49.37 | Plorkyeran | RMS's fantasy land would be an interesting place to live, though |
| 22:49.43 | Mikk | It's called communism |
| 22:49.51 | ckknight | damn pinkos |
| 22:50.05 | Mikk | Which, granted, is nice, if any large amount of humans could actually live in it. History has proven that they cannot :-P |
| 22:50.07 | Plorkyeran | Not just communism, insane communism |
| 22:50.08 | vhaarr | Well call him what you want, you need that kind of people in the world, too. |
| 22:50.17 | ckknight | why, vhaarr? |
| 22:50.26 | Mikk | Yeah, why? Shoot him, I say :-P |
| 22:50.27 | vhaarr | Because the opposite kind exist. |
| 22:50.38 | ckknight | Libertarians? |
| 22:50.47 | dreyruugr | balance ftw |
| 22:50.48 | Mikk | I release stuff that's more free than his bloody license. |
| 22:50.49 | ckknight | I'm a Lib. |
| 22:51.30 | vhaarr | RMS is insane but there's room for one of his kind in this world. |
| 22:51.36 | Mikk | haha |
| 22:51.37 | Mikk | okay |
| 22:51.41 | PikPikerson | Only 1 though. |
| 22:51.47 | vhaarr | Did I say 2? |
| 22:51.49 | vhaarr | I didn't. |
| 22:52.21 | ckknight | okay, I just disagree with most of his views |
| 22:52.22 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:52.38 | vhaarr | That doesn't mean you don't want those views considered in different issues, does it? |
| 22:52.45 | vhaarr | All angles are worth considering. |
| 22:53.02 | ckknight | yes, just know which views are wrong. |
| 22:53.06 | ckknight | and know to avoid them. |
| 22:53.22 | vhaarr | hehe |
| 22:53.37 | Plorkyeran | There is a difference between hiding a view and just smacking a huge "wrong" label on it |
| 22:53.41 | vhaarr | Well that's for the individual to decide, point is that the view is present in some form. |
| 22:54.16 | ckknight | I disagree with "hiding" a view |
| 22:54.24 | vhaarr | Anyway, releasing the code under several licenses like Mozilla does is nice. |
| 22:54.35 | Plorkyeran | It's nice, but a mess |
| 22:54.46 | ckknight | e.g. I am completely against Germany's law that makes Holocaust-denial illegal |
| 22:54.53 | ckknight | because we should show them how they're wrong |
| 22:55.01 | ckknight | instead of just shutting them up |
| 22:55.06 | vhaarr | GPL+BSD-style (MPL) and LGPL, I think it is. |
| 22:55.30 | vhaarr | So you can branch it and say "my branch is GPL". |
| 22:55.37 | ckknight | MPL != BSD |
| 22:55.38 | vhaarr | Or "My branch is MPL" |
| 22:55.40 | vhaarr | I know. |
| 22:57.02 | vhaarr | But it only has a limited amount of copyleft, it's pretty close to BSD in that regard. |
| 22:57.32 | vhaarr | And it is BSD-compatible. |
| 22:59.07 | nevcairiel | Go and wirte a Ace License. |
| 22:59.15 | nevcairiel | s/wirte/write/ |
| 22:59.17 | ckknight | blah, no |
| 22:59.32 | eternally777 | I'm sorry for asking again, but I don't think it was answered: is it possible to call raidIds with a function? |
| 23:00.14 | Mikk | aeuhmmm |
| 23:00.16 | vhaarr | ckknight: any thoughts on my acehook issue then? I didn't get "closure" on it. |
| 23:00.18 | Mikk | ask in another way please :-P |
| 23:00.41 | ckknight | vhaarr, *shrug* |
| 23:01.14 | vhaarr | right, I'll just assume acehook is fatally flawed then and do my own hooking |
| 23:01.24 | vhaarr | since I can't make sense of it. |
| 23:02.31 | vhaarr | or modify acehook locally to produce proper error messages |
| 23:02.41 | Industrial | lol |
| 23:02.57 | Plorkyeran | BugSack mostly makes acehook's error messages useful |
| 23:03.15 | vhaarr | no it doesn't |
| 23:03.15 | Plorkyeran | Unless you hook something used in BugSack, and then it just makes infinite errors |
| 23:03.20 | vhaarr | well mostly, yes |
| 23:03.22 | vhaarr | but not these ones |
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| 23:04.22 | Industrial | Mikma: ButtonNamer description is borked |
| 23:04.47 | Industrial | hmm might just be WinAceUpdater |
| 23:05.00 | JoshBork1 | hola again |
| 23:06.31 | Thiana | Is type() an expensive operation? |
| 23:06.41 | Plorkyeran | http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/lowd/Ungoro.mp3 |
| 23:08.16 | Industrial | why Thiana? I meean you use it for development... |
| 23:08.37 | ckknight | vhaarr, please, if you can, feel free to mess with AceHook |
| 23:08.39 | Thiana | Industrial: ie, calling it inside a loop. |
| 23:08.44 | ckknight | giving proper error messages, what have you. |
| 23:08.45 | vhaarr | ckknight: okay |
| 23:08.56 | Mikk | oh my god that's bad :-P |
| 23:09.02 | Mikk | ~lart Plorkyeran |
| 23:09.03 | Industrial | Thiana: Again, if you use it for devopment it doesnt matter... |
| 23:09.44 | Thiana | Industrial: ... if it was just for development purposes I'd hardly be that concerned about how expensive the operation is. |
| 23:14.17 | CIA-11 | 03tkieffer * r13036 10Caterer/Libs/: Deleting to create externals instead. |
| 23:16.42 | mjc | caterer is a neat idea |
| 23:16.51 | neale | <3 caterer |
| 23:16.58 | neale | i say that every time pik commits something |
| 23:17.06 | PikPikerson | kek |
| 23:17.12 | neale | hehe |
| 23:17.14 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-133-63-98.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:17.28 | PikPikerson | I'm trying to figure out how to do externals. |
| 23:17.42 | mjc | svn propedit svn:externals Libs |
| 23:18.05 | PikPikerson | That it? |
| 23:18.19 | PikPikerson | I'm using the SVN_For_Idiots guide on wowace wiki |
| 23:19.02 | deci | http://www.imagesocket.com/view/Uinewest_600.jpg |
| 23:20.34 | PProvost | PikPikerson, right click on the folder if you are using TortoiseSVN and choose Properties. It should be in there. |
| 23:20.59 | dreyruugr | What is Caterer? |
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| 23:21.02 | PikPikerson | Yes I found that. |
| 23:21.24 | PikPikerson | But all I need is to set svn:externals to Libs? |
| 23:21.33 | PikPikerson | Do I still need to create this externals.txt? |
| 23:21.52 | PProvost | Noe |
| 23:21.55 | PProvost | s/Noe/Nope |
| 23:22.16 | PProvost | s/s\/Noe\/Nope/Nope/ |
| 23:22.19 | PProvost | hehe |
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| 23:22.44 | lacindas | mornin folks |
| 23:22.47 | PProvost | !info Caterer |
| 23:22.59 | mjc | PikPikerson: you need to set svn;externals on the Libs dir |
| 23:23.00 | Jagobah | what buttons are those deci ??? |
| 23:23.08 | ckknight | purl's probably really confused now, PProvost |
| 23:23.12 | ckknight | hey, lacindas |
| 23:23.14 | PProvost | hehehe |
| 23:23.15 | mjc | PikPikerson: example: svn propget svn:externals !!!Libs/Libs |
| 23:23.22 | mjc | svn propedit opens an editor |
| 23:23.24 | PProvost | I was trying to escape the / |
| 23:23.34 | lacindas | anyone using chronometer and having issues with CandyBar? |
| 23:24.09 | mjc | I want chrono to show my cooldowns :( |
| 23:24.21 | lacindas | mjc: use oCD |
| 23:24.35 | mjc | I don't want two mods for virtually the same purpose |
| 23:24.41 | lacindas | oCD+Chrono+Hostel(rewrite) = ownage |
| 23:24.54 | lacindas | not the same at all |
| 23:25.12 | JoshBork1 | what's different about them then? |
| 23:25.16 | PProvost | Hostel(rewrite) ??? |
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| 23:25.23 | mjc | lacindas: they all are counters |
| 23:25.36 | mjc | there should be one mod that keeps track of all of those |
| 23:25.40 | lacindas | yah, i just read a reply in the chrono thread that hostel is being re-written/renamed |
| 23:26.17 | JoshBork1 | http://fs.joshborke.is-a-geek.com/index.php?path=addons/ :-D |
| 23:26.20 | lacindas | i can see wanting one for "personal" and one for "enemy" but doesnt seem the devs are going that way, so ill use 3 |
| 23:26.51 | lacindas | besides, an unlocked oCD frame looks hot oSkin'd ;P |
| 23:27.24 | lacindas | josh: very nice :D |
| 23:27.43 | lacindas | but lol @ eCastingBar ;P |
| 23:27.50 | JoshBork1 | :-P |
| 23:27.54 | JoshBork1 | i lik eCastingBar |
| 23:27.57 | CIA-11 | 03skyboat 07Skyboat * r13037 10oSkin/oSkin/ (. core.lua): |
| 23:27.57 | CIA-11 | oSkin: |
| 23:27.57 | CIA-11 | - Revision 13002 branched. |
| 23:27.57 | CIA-11 | - Added backdrop support. |
| 23:28.02 | PProvost | lacindas, who's rewriting it? |
| 23:28.04 | JoshBork1 | but i guess i should try otravi_CastingBar... |
| 23:28.36 | Arrowmaster | i hate the idea of "all in one timer bars" because some timers are a lot harder to do correctly than others |
| 23:28.39 | lacindas | i believe its sole, same author, just refocusing on only enemy stuff, kinda workin along side chronometer |
| 23:28.55 | lacindas | oCB2 ftw |
| 23:28.58 | PProvost | Bummer. I liked it doing both enemy and self. |
| 23:29.16 | CIA-11 | 03tkieffer * r13038 10Caterer/: Setting Externals |
| 23:29.40 | PikPikerson | Oh ney neale |
| 23:29.46 | neale | yep :) |
| 23:29.47 | PikPikerson | I added localization yesterday. |
| 23:29.48 | lacindas | yeah it was convenient, but it seems the direction the devs are going from the thread is "personal effects" and "enemy effects" |
| 23:29.56 | PikPikerson | Didn't you want to language it? |
| 23:30.09 | JoshBork1 | lacindas: but what about renew's on a friendly? who tracks that? |
| 23:30.15 | neale | nope i think that was someone else |
| 23:30.20 | PikPikerson | Ah. Nm then. |
| 23:30.25 | neale | btw, i get an authentication error on caterer when updating |
| 23:30.26 | lacindas | no clue, ask the devs ;P |
| 23:30.28 | CIA-11 | 03evilelvis * r13039 10FuBar_agufFu/ (25 files in 12 dirs): FuBar_agufFu: base code import |
| 23:30.29 | JoshBork1 | and where's the oCB2? |
| 23:30.30 | neale | wants to go to dev.wowace.com |
| 23:30.32 | lacindas | or try hotcandy :) |
| 23:30.38 | lacindas | oCB2 is in branches |
| 23:30.46 | JoshBork1 | blasted, i don't want branches :-/ |
| 23:30.53 | JoshBork1 | he should move it to trunk :-P |
| 23:31.06 | lacindas | its still "beta" but its really not lol |
| 23:31.10 | *** part/#wowace neale (n=rollo@204.50.77.42) |
| 23:31.10 | lacindas | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/otravi_CastingBar/otravi/oCB/ |
| 23:31.24 | CIA-11 | 03tkieffer * r13040 10Caterer/: Fixing Externals |
| 23:31.25 | lacindas | ive been using it for ages and its spot on |
| 23:31.37 | JoshBork1 | now i just need to get this script running daily and i'll be set |
| 23:31.44 | PikPikerson | Ok. |
| 23:31.49 | PikPikerson | This externals stuff is nifty. |
| 23:31.51 | CIA-11 | 03evilelvis * r13041 10FuBar_agufFu/libs/ (10 files in 10 dirs): FuBar_agufFu: oops, forgot to remove libs |
| 23:31.51 | JoshBork1 | .kO |
| 23:32.09 | JoshBork1 | nifty? a drain on resources is what it is :-P |
| 23:32.12 | *** topic/#wowace by Tekkub -> http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Server_Status#Latest_Update | Everyone who commits to the SVN, read and sign http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules |
| 23:32.20 | lacindas | ok, off to hassle the chrono dev about how/why it breaks candybars lol |
| 23:34.01 | JoshBork1 | Tekkub: |
| 23:34.22 | CIA-11 | 03skyboat 07Skyboat * r13042 10oSkin/ (12 files in 3 dirs): oSkin: Old branch removed. |
| 23:34.26 | snurre | http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?t=12540 hm |
| 23:34.30 | JoshBork1 | hrm, nvm |
| 23:34.42 | CIA-11 | 03tkieffer * r13043 10Caterer/: Adding External: AceComm-2.0 |
| 23:35.23 | JoshBork1 | hrm, what's the proper wiki coke to sign it? |
| 23:35.29 | JoshBork1 | ````? ~~~~? |
| 23:35.40 | gxam | ~~~~ |
| 23:35.45 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT gxam!!! |
| 23:35.47 | Xuerian | "Zen Marksmanship"... |
| 23:35.57 | Xuerian | <coughRIPOFFcough> |
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| 23:37.29 | CIA-11 | 03evilelvis * r13044 10FuBar_agufFu/libs/: FuBar_agufFu: setting externals |
| 23:38.48 | Skyboat | hmmm, any idea why the Copy profile option is disabled for Ace2 addons? |
| 23:38.57 | Skyboat | (and yes, I do have multiple profiles saved) |
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| 23:39.56 | Industrial | PProvost: you there? |
| 23:41.03 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r13045 10Detox/Detox.lua: Detox: added debug code. If you're having problems, turn on debugging and tell me exactly what it prints. |
| 23:41.48 | lacindas | is !!!Libs being updated regularly enough to use the svn without externals and just use !!!Libs? |
| 23:42.59 | Industrial | why use it at all? |
| 23:43.08 | lacindas | the svn or libs? |
| 23:43.12 | Industrial | libs |
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| 23:43.23 | Industrial | its the devil |
| 23:43.37 | Arrowmaster | yeah dont use !!!Libs |
| 23:43.43 | lacindas | the svn page says about not checkin out with externals but then ild have no libs lol |
| 23:43.55 | Arrowmaster | thats why you checkout the externals |
| 23:43.57 | Industrial | use WinAceUpdater |
| 23:44.05 | eternally777 | Isn't there a Deuce'd Necrosis on the SVN? |
| 23:44.12 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:51.18 | Industrial | eternally777: nop |
| 23:51.18 | deci | http://www.imagesocket.com/view/bagspace_helpf52.JPG |
| 23:51.18 | deci | FEED THE DEVIATE ADDICTION |
| 23:51.18 | deci | :D |
| 23:51.18 | lacindas | eternally: i think in branches perhaps |
| 23:51.18 | eternally777 | Does it have a name? |
| 23:51.18 | Industrial | deci: ;o |
| 23:51.18 | CIA-11 | 03tkieffer * r13046 10Caterer/: Fixing External: AceLocale-2.1 |
| 23:51.18 | lacindas | necromoicon, some branch, lemme check, sec |
| 23:51.18 | eternally777 | AH ok |
| 23:51.18 | eternally777 | s/AH/Ah/ |
| 23:51.19 | lacindas | nope, i was wrong, i thought someone had done a necro-branch for ace2 |
| 23:51.19 | Kebinusan | any idea how to stop "PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/13045' No such revision 13045" from happening everytime someone commits while Im trying to check out |
| 23:51.19 | lacindas | bah this candybars thing is screwy, its working for some mods and not for others lol |
| 23:51.19 | lacindas | wtf now it works =S |
| 23:51.19 | lacindas | i give up, ima jus go kill alliance and forget the pretty colors lol |
| 23:51.19 | Skyboat | !!!Libs was created because there was an issue with CandyBar not loading it's bar texture when loaded from !!!Libraries, as the path was too long |
| 23:51.19 | Skyboat | I also prefer using it as I can update all my libraries once, and never check for externals when updating all my Ace2 addons |
| 23:51.20 | Industrial | PProvost: http://imagesocket.com/view/untitledf61.PNG |
| 23:51.20 | Industrial | Skyboat: hmm but you dont have to edit all the libs etc out of the toc then? |
| 23:51.30 | Industrial | lol! |
| 23:51.32 | Industrial | lag? |
| 23:52.39 | PProvost | Industrial, yep. That is the zero length bug again. I have that fixed in my working copy and will release 1.3 later tonight. |
| 23:53.03 | PProvost | AceGUI has a file in it with zero length and my zip library barfs on that. |
| 23:53.16 | Industrial | k |
| 23:53.20 | Tem | how is there a file with zero length? |
| 23:53.29 | Skyboat | no Industrial, if the files aren't there, it just ignores it |
| 23:53.37 | Tem | is that the old version or 2.0? |
| 23:53.39 | Industrial | Skyboat: ok |
| 23:53.44 | Industrial | Tem: old |
| 23:53.48 | Industrial | KCI needs it |
| 23:53.50 | Industrial | :< |
| 23:53.57 | Skyboat | and because the libraries are already loaded, the addon works as normal |
| 23:53.59 | PProvost | Tem, "touch somefile" |
| 23:54.09 | Tem | PProvost, ok |
| 23:54.17 | PProvost | They are all over the place. |
| 23:54.32 | Industrial | :p |
| 23:54.40 | PProvost | There were two in oRA2 last night that I actually changed to have a space in just so people could update oRA2. |
| 23:55.06 | PikPikerson | Err. Why would I get an AceOO Library does not exist error when I call AceComm-2.0 like this: |
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| 23:55.08 | stratos | hello |
| 23:55.13 | PikPikerson | Caterer = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceComm-2.0") |
| 23:55.31 | PProvost | Industrial, I agree. They shouldn't be there, but they are. |
| 23:55.45 | Greywind | evening folks |
| 23:55.55 | kergoth | PikPikerson: acecomm needs aceoo... most mixins do. did you include acelibrary and aceoo in your addon and in the .toc? |
| 23:56.04 | PikPikerson | Yes |
| 23:56.20 | Greywind | did you load it first in the toc? |
| 23:56.22 | ckknight | AceComm requires AceEvent, as well, afaik. |
| 23:56.31 | ckknight | PikPikerson, what error did you get? |
| 23:56.34 | PikPikerson | Wait? |
| 23:56.38 | PikPikerson | Which? |
| 23:56.47 | PikPikerson | I get AceOO: Library "AceComm-2.0" does not exist. |
| 23:56.59 | PikPikerson | I need AceComm-2.0 in the toc as the first entry? |
| 23:57.09 | ckknight | you need it in the right place, probably |
| 23:57.10 | ckknight | paste your toc |
| 23:57.25 | PikPikerson | Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua |
| 23:57.25 | PikPikerson | Libs\AceOO-2.0\AceOO-2.0.lua |
| 23:57.25 | PikPikerson | Libs\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua |
| 23:57.25 | PikPikerson | Libs\AceDB-2.0\AceDB-2.0.lua |
| 23:57.27 | PikPikerson | Libs\AceConsole-2.0\AceConsole-2.0.lua |
| 23:57.27 | PikPikerson | Libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua |
| 23:57.27 | PikPikerson | Libs\AceLocale-2.1\AceLocale-2.1.lua |
| 23:57.29 | PikPikerson | Libs\AceComm-2.0\AceComm-2.0.lua |
| 23:57.54 | ckknight | looks sorta right |
| 23:58.08 | stratos | besides actively developing mods in ACE/ACE2 |
| 23:58.23 | stratos | what else are you guys doing to promote why its such a better route to go? |
| 23:58.24 | ckknight | stratos, do you have a problem? |
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| 23:58.37 | stratos | no, im just curious if there is a strategy behind ace/ace2 |
| 23:58.41 | ckknight | oh |
| 23:58.42 | ckknight | okay |
| 23:58.44 | ckknight | yes. |
| 23:58.46 | ckknight | there is |
| 23:58.58 | stratos | so far i love these mods, but i didnt know about most of them till just recently |
| 23:58.59 | ckknight | it boils in my mind... |
| 23:59.33 | lacindas | PProvost: does AceAutoUpdater remember youre "checked mods" or just auto-check whats in your addon folder? |
| 23:59.36 | lacindas | ckk: lol |
