| 00:02.25 | CIA-17 | 03ratbert * r13493 10BagBoy2/ (5 files): |
| 00:02.26 | CIA-17 | BagBoy2: |
| 00:02.26 | CIA-17 | "Unmodularized" BagBoy2Tooltip and BagBoy2Rules.lua |
| 00:02.26 | CIA-17 | Fixed some BagBoy2Glue issues (we now recognize FreeRefills, BulkMail and ItemRack as "managers") |
| 00:02.26 | CIA-17 | Added a default rule based on item being managed |
| 00:02.26 | CIA-17 | Added default rule actions (reasonably sane ones, I hope) |
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| 00:07.21 | mjc | vhaarr: ping |
| 00:07.41 | Kemayo | Tekkub... Why isn't tekProber showing up? ;_; |
| 00:07.59 | Tekkub | LoD |
| 00:08.02 | Tekkub | get S&D |
| 00:08.18 | Kemayo | Dependencies? NEVER! |
| 00:08.33 | Kaelten | no you're spost to say NEVA! |
| 00:08.35 | Tekkub | then fuck off and load it with some other loader :) |
| 00:08.47 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Supply_and_Demand |
| 00:09.12 | vhaarr | mjc: pong |
| 00:09.24 | mjc | vhaarr: looking at CG_Mount |
| 00:09.53 | mjc | it doesn't have acelibrary in libs?? |
| 00:09.58 | vhaarr | no |
| 00:10.07 | vhaarr | Because it depends on ClosetGnome, which has it anyway. |
| 00:10.11 | Tain | I wear my dependancies so I don't have an accident. |
| 00:10.21 | mjc | oh, didn't see the dep |
| 00:10.22 | ckknight | that's bad, bad karma, vhaarr |
| 00:10.26 | mjc | < blind |
| 00:10.32 | Tekkub | I claim 3 dependancies on my W4 |
| 00:10.37 | vhaarr | ckknight: explain |
| 00:10.44 | mjc | ckknight: CG_M is useless without CG |
| 00:11.03 | ckknight | what if CG somehow changed its libraries radically/ |
| 00:11.17 | Tekkub | is this CG_Mount gonna take over MountMe's item swapper? :) |
| 00:11.20 | vhaarr | I control them both. |
| 00:11.28 | Kemayo | Tekkub: Well, okay, S&D sees it, but it's still not responding to /probe or appearing in FuBar... |
| 00:11.35 | vhaarr | CG_Mount packs the "unorthodox" libs it needs. |
| 00:11.39 | vhaarr | Just not the Ace2 libs. |
| 00:11.40 | Tekkub | you still have to load it Kem |
| 00:11.53 | Kemayo | Ahhhhhhhhh. |
| 00:11.57 | Tekkub | if you want to override you can add it to the "Always" group and it'll be like before |
| 00:12.00 | Kemayo | All is clear now. |
| 00:12.00 | vhaarr | Tekkub: I have no idea what MountMe is. |
| 00:12.09 | Tekkub | vhaarr, HETHEN! |
| 00:12.12 | vhaarr | :D |
| 00:12.15 | vhaarr | You know I am. |
| 00:12.17 | Tekkub | it's my mount utils mod |
| 00:12.35 | ckknight | vhaarr, ah, you'll probably be okay, then |
| 00:12.37 | Tekkub | has an all-in-one script, a mount speed item swapper, and a ez-dismounter |
| 00:12.47 | vhaarr | ckknight: indeed I will :) |
| 00:13.04 | vhaarr | Tekkub: CG_Mount only takes care of equipping a mount set when you mount. |
| 00:13.13 | Tekkub | yes but is it configless? |
| 00:13.19 | vhaarr | Yes. |
| 00:13.21 | Tekkub | or do you have to tell it the items |
| 00:13.31 | vhaarr | It equips a set named "Mount". |
| 00:13.33 | vhaarr | If it exists. |
| 00:13.39 | Tekkub | that's not configless |
| 00:13.45 | vhaarr | pft |
| 00:13.49 | Tekkub | MM's swapper finds mount items automatically |
| 00:13.50 | kergoth | mjc: got it |
| 00:13.55 | kergoth | mjc: using svn to propget instead of svk |
| 00:13.59 | kergoth | substantially faster |
| 00:14.05 | Tekkub | since there's one trinket, one boot enchant and one glove enchant :) |
| 00:14.09 | kergoth | now the main bottleneck os the svn up of each external, but now that thats cached.. |
| 00:14.10 | vhaarr | I know. |
| 00:14.23 | vhaarr | hm |
| 00:14.32 | Tekkub | so make it auto-generate the set for the user :) |
| 00:14.40 | Tekkub | then they can change it if they want |
| 00:14.45 | mjc | kergoth: ooer |
| 00:15.10 | kergoth | i'll check it into my homefiles repo in a sec |
| 00:15.12 | Tekkub | same could be done with resist sets, autogenerate based on the items found in the users bags, then let the user edit it |
| 00:15.21 | cladhaire | this server is doing pretty well since the last reconfig.. im pretty happy with it |
| 00:15.25 | kergoth | heh, trying to turn it into outfitter tek? |
| 00:15.34 | mjc | cladhaire: how goeth squid |
| 00:15.45 | Tekkub | frankly that's me only bitch about ItemRack is that it can't generate sets based on conditions if the user asks it to |
| 00:15.52 | cladhaire | i'm frying up some calamari right now to figure it out. |
| 00:15.59 | mjc | haha |
| 00:16.00 | Tekkub | dunno kergy |
| 00:16.13 | cladhaire | calamaris being the log analyser =) |
| 00:16.16 | Tekkub | doesn't need to auto-create always, just on user request during setup |
| 00:16.32 | vhaarr | Tekkub: I'm planning to do a resist set generator thing. |
| 00:16.39 | Tekkub | (sweets) |
| 00:16.50 | mjc | vhaarr: how easy do you think it would be to have CG_BW unequip ranged on hunter class call |
| 00:17.10 | vhaarr | mjc: that doesn't fit in CG_BW, make a separate mod for it |
| 00:17.36 | mjc | why not? boss stuff is part of BW, and CG_BW is a bridge between the two |
| 00:18.09 | mjc | vhaarr: just add a stanceswitch function or something, and then have a BW module that calls it |
| 00:19.13 | vhaarr | mjc: It's 1 event you need to respond to, you can do it in-game with a simple script. |
| 00:19.19 | mjc | ah |
| 00:19.34 | vhaarr | Just respond to BigWigs_Message where arg1 is the hunter call text. |
| 00:19.42 | Kemayo | AceDB's ['*'] keys seem like such a good idea... but they're fragile enough to cause problems. ;_; |
| 00:19.44 | vhaarr | And deequip the ranged slot. |
| 00:19.55 | vhaarr | I don't want that in CG_BW. |
| 00:22.25 | kergoth | mjc: http://kergoth.com/projects/homefiles/changeset/372 |
| 00:23.17 | mjc | kergoth: testing |
| 00:23.24 | vhaarr | Who's our TRACer? |
| 00:23.26 | vhaarr | cladhaire ? |
| 00:23.44 | mjc | kergoth: I haven't synced since that 67min update, so this should give us a good benchmark |
| 00:23.54 | kergoth | cool |
| 00:24.13 | vhaarr | Do I have to create a new login for TRAC? |
| 00:24.14 | kergoth | i cant wait for svk views |
| 00:24.55 | Kaelten | vhaarr: should be synced with the repo paswords I think |
| 00:25.02 | Kaelten | kergoth: svk views? |
| 00:25.18 | kergoth | what externals shouldve been |
| 00:25.34 | kergoth | a proper checkout that can have any number of files/dris from any number of upstream locations |
| 00:25.37 | Kaelten | lol |
| 00:25.43 | kergoth | which are all handled properly, no having to update each external manually and shit |
| 00:25.43 | vhaarr | Kaelten: ah, excellent |
| 00:25.45 | Kaelten | nice |
| 00:25.51 | mjc | vhaarr: EquipItem takes a slot name, number, what? I'm confused |
| 00:26.00 | mjc | and I suppose if I pass 'nil' to item it will equip nothing |
| 00:26.14 | Kaelten | kergoth: when are those coming out or is it just a client thats going to support them |
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| 00:26.30 | kergoth | Kaelten: svk will have them, svn still will not |
| 00:26.41 | kergoth | but the repository wont change, it just stores the info on the view in an svn property |
| 00:27.06 | kergoth | its in the trunk version of svk today, they've done a test release of it, so hopefully itll hit final soon |
| 00:27.22 | vhaarr | mjc: slot is the inventory slot id |
| 00:27.27 | vhaarr | mjc: which ranges from 0-19 |
| 00:27.35 | mjc | ok, I'll wowwiki that |
| 00:27.40 | vhaarr | mcj: item is the item name, like "Talisman of Ephemereal Power" |
| 00:27.43 | mjc | thanks, it wasn't clear from your use |
| 00:27.49 | Kaelten | kerogth so its a client update then? |
| 00:27.51 | mjc | vhaarr: I want to equip nothing in that slot |
| 00:28.03 | vhaarr | mcj: then send |false| as item |
| 00:28.07 | vhaarr | not nil |
| 00:28.10 | mjc | ok |
| 00:28.23 | kergoth | yes, its a new version of svk |
| 00:28.25 | kergoth | ~svk |
| 00:28.30 | purl | [svk] a decentralized version control system. It uses the Subversion filesystem but provides additional, powerful features. svk plays well with others, it can mirror remote Subversion, Perforce, and CVS repositories to perform offline operations. It supports star merges, cherry picking, etc. See http://svk.elixus.org/ |
| 00:28.39 | vhaarr | mcj: then you'll have to do ClosetGnome:ProcessDeequipQueue() |
| 00:28.47 | Kaelten | neat |
| 00:29.03 | vhaarr | mcj: if you're deequipping things |
| 00:29.48 | kergoth | i think i might do my own version of ebb_ace2 which lets the user create any number of anchors/groups of bars, and each group can show/hide buffs, debuffs, tempbuffs, or any number of those matching a specific pattern |
| 00:30.09 | kergoth | or not, depends on whether or not motivation goes poof |
| 00:30.24 | vhaarr | Kaelten: Who should I talk to about TRAC? |
| 00:30.29 | vhaarr | I don't like it. |
| 00:30.42 | vhaarr | The Ticket part of it. |
| 00:30.43 | kergoth | i didnt know a developer existed that didnt like trac |
| 00:31.11 | vhaarr | It's all a big mess of shit. |
| 00:31.17 | cladhaire | it is a big mess of shit |
| 00:31.19 | cladhaire | =) |
| 00:31.26 | cladhaire | but its the best that really exists right now. |
| 00:31.34 | kergoth | trac is a well integrated set of mediocre tools. |
| 00:31.41 | vhaarr | Looks like a unbelievably bad attempt at throwing together 6 different Apple applications into one. |
| 00:31.46 | vhaarr | And porting it to Windows. |
| 00:31.52 | vhaarr | And failing the task miserably. |
| 00:32.16 | vhaarr | Well, some things should change anyway, who can do them? |
| 00:32.27 | vhaarr | Like, wtf is component1? |
| 00:32.33 | vhaarr | And who is 'somebody'? |
| 00:32.46 | vhaarr | Clearly it should say "Noone". |
| 00:32.51 | Tain | It's all relative. You could be trying to use sourceforge instead. >:) |
| 00:32.53 | kergoth | thats a configuration issue, not a trac issue. |
| 00:32.54 | mjc | how the heck does self:RegisterEvent() know what event I'm looking for? |
| 00:32.59 | kergoth | yeah, sourceforge is a pile of shit |
| 00:33.05 | vhaarr | I've used SF. |
| 00:33.11 | vhaarr | And it's even worse indeed. |
| 00:33.23 | kergoth | vhaarr, no offense, but come back when you've got a fucking clue about the capabilities of such open source tools |
| 00:33.23 | vhaarr | kergoth: I know it's a configuration issue, that's why I'm asking. |
| 00:33.35 | vhaarr | kergoth: I've got a fucking clue. |
| 00:33.39 | kergoth | clearly not |
| 00:33.44 | vhaarr | How so? |
| 00:33.45 | Tain | I actually give SF a lot of credit for what it did in the past when there were no good alternatives for a public project, but it just didn't keep up at all with the times. |
| 00:34.36 | vhaarr | kergoth: The fact that I'm asking who can change these things makes me clueless as to the capabilites of open source development tools? |
| 00:34.39 | vhaarr | I don't get that connection. |
| 00:34.46 | kergoth | no, your comments about trac in general do |
| 00:34.54 | vhaarr | That's personal view. |
| 00:35.06 | kergoth | quite right, my personal view is your fucking clueless. |
| 00:35.26 | vhaarr | right |
| 00:38.15 | kergoth | so lets hear where your foundations lie. how many of the major open source and commercial bug/ticket tracking systems, wikis, and source control web interfaces have you used and maintained for projects? |
| 00:38.34 | kergoth | i'd be willing to bet that the number is woefully inadequate to make an intelligent judgement |
| 00:38.44 | cladhaire | lolo |
| 00:39.17 | Tain | That's like Rolo. I liked those. |
| 00:39.20 | Tain | Caramel and chocolate. |
| 00:39.23 | kergoth | trac has its flaws, as i said, the tools are mediocre, and its configuration for the admin side of things is weak at best, but lets keep the opinions at least somewhat grounded in fact, shall we |
| 00:39.37 | kergoth | mmm, caramel |
| 00:39.57 | vhaarr | kergoth: You'd be wrong, but I'm not going to argue. |
| 00:40.12 | Tain | By the way, I've settled on the menu for the dinner party I'm hosting on Wednesday, and dessert will be a caramel bread pudding. |
| 00:40.22 | [Cu]Werik | ufff |
| 00:40.26 | [Cu]Werik | :S |
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| 00:41.01 | mjc | vhaarr: you should nil lastSetBeforeMount in SE_Dismount, no ? |
| 00:41.47 | vhaarr | mjc: I'm not doing that because we're not guaranteed to get another WearSet event before the next mount. |
| 00:41.54 | mjc | ah |
| 00:42.07 | vhaarr | So better to just remember what the user picked, if he ever did. |
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| 00:45.43 | mjc | now to figure out how to fire my event when the player has less than 1% health |
| 00:46.30 | vhaarr | Register a BucketEvent for UNIT_HEALTH and check for <3%, 1% is too low, I think. |
| 00:47.20 | mjc | bucketevent an ace2 thing? |
| 00:47.31 | mjc | this is my first addon :) |
| 00:47.55 | Kebinusan | There is somethign weird with the wowace.com/files scripts it seems sometimes externals are omitted from the zips |
| 00:48.14 | mjc | Kebinusan: externals bad on those? |
| 00:48.28 | Kebinusan | http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=Chronometer/ for example, the latest zip doesnt have externals |
| 00:48.36 | Kebinusan | mjc, hmm lemme check the svn log for it |
| 00:49.21 | Kebinusan | no externals werent touched between the last two zips |
| 00:49.29 | Kebinusan | but the latest one doesnt have externals and the previous one does |
| 00:50.09 | mjc | vhaarr: got it, thanks |
| 00:50.39 | Kebinusan | mjc, and if you look back over the rev history there are occasional zips that are significantly smaller than they should be, those are the ones missing externals |
| 00:50.52 | mjc | shrug |
| 00:53.14 | Gemski | Is mrplow ace2 still branch? |
| 00:53.27 | Gemski | ^in |
| 00:53.30 | mjc | yes |
| 00:55.02 | Gemski | thanks |
| 01:00.06 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13494 10XRS/localizations/koKR.lua: XRS : update locals koKR |
| 01:00.32 | Tekkub | as usual, those who agree please show your support, and don't just /signed but rather back with arguements |
| 01:00.32 | Tekkub | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32156900&postId=321643619&sid=1#0 |
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| 01:02.49 | mjc | time() does what i expect, yes? |
| 01:03.22 | ckknight | it gets the seconds since epoch |
| 01:03.30 | mjc | thought so |
| 01:03.56 | ckknight | unless you feed in a date table |
| 01:04.04 | ckknight | then it uses that instead of now |
| 01:04.23 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13495 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs : update locals koKR |
| 01:04.54 | Tekkub | heh, the bitch read the wiki :) |
| 01:05.05 | Tekkub | wait no that's not the same person |
| 01:05.06 | mjc | ckknight: no I'm just recording seconds since epoch and then checking recorded against current |
| 01:05.14 | Tekkub | damn you short term memory! |
| 01:06.05 | ckknight | mjc, you sure you don't want GetTime() instead of time()? |
| 01:06.16 | Thiana | ckknight, Why would :HookReport() say the hook is inactive? |
| 01:06.27 | ckknight | I don't know, I didn't write that section |
| 01:06.28 | mjc | ckknight: I might, I've never written any Lua or any Ace mods :p |
| 01:06.44 | mjc | just kind of hacking at it |
| 01:06.51 | ckknight | GetTime() is good for smaller periods of time, e.g. within a week |
| 01:06.57 | ckknight | but you also get milliseconds |
| 01:07.06 | ckknight | time() is good for telling years apart :-P |
| 01:07.27 | mjc | ckknight: well truth be told I have no idea what I'm doing code wise :P |
| 01:07.37 | ckknight | also, you can save time() in your DB, but you'd never want to save GetTime() in your DB |
| 01:07.40 | ckknight | that's about it. |
| 01:09.02 | kergoth | time() is like gettimeofday() |
| 01:09.13 | kergoth | GetTime() is like getting the cpu time, like clock_gettime() |
| 01:09.23 | kergoth | afaik |
| 01:09.44 | mjc | well, I want 2 seconds off the wall clock |
| 01:09.50 | ckknight | time() gets the seconds since epoch, from 1970 to 2038 |
| 01:10.03 | ckknight | it has a precision of a second |
| 01:10.16 | mjc | ckknight: I know what the epoch is :) |
| 01:10.21 | ckknight | GetTime() gets seconds with a precision of a millisecond |
| 01:10.27 | mjc | ah |
| 01:10.29 | mjc | so gettime |
| 01:10.41 | [FH]Birdemani | !note FuBar_MCPfu |
| 01:10.55 | [FH]Birdemani | !notes FuBar_MCPfu |
| 01:11.05 | mjc | !toc FuBar_MCPFu |
| 01:11.08 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/FuBar_MCPFu |
| 01:12.33 | mjc | kergoth: http://ace.pastey.net/1454 |
| 01:12.35 | mjc | crap |
| 01:12.54 | Gemski | what is the difference between !!!libs and !!!libraries? |
| 01:13.19 | mjc | Gemski: !!!Libraries got renamed to !!!Libs |
| 01:13.29 | Gemski | ah |
| 01:13.32 | Tekkub | I do believe !!!Libraries needs to be deleted, that !!!Libs is the current |
| 01:13.39 | Gemski | im bored so i might try it |
| 01:13.59 | Gemski | cause my load times on reload are getting way long |
| 01:14.19 | Kebinusan | hmm |
| 01:14.42 | vhaarr | mjc: Two things about that; 1. With bucket events, arg1 is added to a table that is passed to the handler, 2. |false| is just a way of marking code in text like IRC/mail, you should just pass false to :EquipItem. |
| 01:14.51 | Gemski | do i still have to delete something to make sure canday bars doesnt break? |
| 01:14.55 | mjc | kergoth: svkco.py, line 60, depot referenced before assignment |
| 01:15.00 | mjc | vhaarr: oh, haha |
| 01:15.04 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 01:15.31 | mjc | vhaarr: wait, so how do I catch arg1 then |
| 01:15.39 | CIA-17 | 03skyboat * r13496 10Cyclone/ (Core.lua Cyclone.toc Locale-enUS.lua locale.enUS.lua): Cyclone: Some files renamed and tidying up small bits of code. |
| 01:15.42 | vhaarr | You already do. |
| 01:15.55 | mjc | if not arg1 = "player" ... whatnot? |
| 01:16.04 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Cyclone |
| 01:16.41 | vhaarr | for k,v in pairs(unit) do if v == "player" then ... end end |
| 01:16.41 | mjc | ah |
| 01:16.41 | ckknight | if unit.player then ... end |
| 01:16.41 | ckknight | that works as well. |
| 01:16.41 | CIA-17 | 03skyboat * r13497 10Cyclone/ (Anchor.xml anchor.xml): Cyclone: Renamed Anchor.xml to anchor.xml |
| 01:16.41 | vhaarr | ah |
| 01:16.44 | CIA-17 | 03skyboat * r13498 10Cyclone/ (Core.lua core.lua): Cyclone: Renamed Core.lua to core.lua |
| 01:16.57 | ckknight | the table that's passed in will look like { player = true, pet = true, raid3 = true) |
| 01:17.06 | ckknight | s/)/ }/ |
| 01:17.10 | vhaarr | ah, excellent |
| 01:17.39 | ckknight | why is my realm down? |
| 01:17.42 | ckknight | it says it's up |
| 01:17.46 | mjc | http://ace.pastey.net/1455 |
| 01:18.03 | mjc | I still have to trigger my events |
| 01:18.09 | mjc | oh no, I did |
| 01:18.17 | mjc | am I missing anything? or should that work as intended |
| 01:18.51 | vhaarr | you'll get a "trying to index local unit (a nil value)" error thingy on that |
| 01:18.58 | vhaarr | on line 51 |
| 01:19.20 | mjc | thought ckk just said I could use that :P |
| 01:19.37 | [FH]Birdemani | !notes BagBoy2 |
| 01:19.38 | SVNBot | BagBoy2 Notes: Combined Sell-O-Matic and Trash-O-Matic with rules! || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/BagBoy2 |
| 01:19.39 | vhaarr | you declared the function as UNIT_HEALTH(unit) then |
| 01:19.42 | vhaarr | now you don't |
| 01:19.45 | mjc | aha |
| 01:20.03 | mjc | fixt |
| 01:21.00 | vhaarr | this will deequip anything in the weapon slots every 0.2 seconds if you're losing health |
| 01:21.10 | mjc | kergoth: pingaling, tried to use 'depot' in svkco before you defined it, line 60 :P |
| 01:21.21 | kergoth | mjc: checked in the fix for it |
| 01:21.25 | mjc | vhaarr: elseif is doing division |
| 01:22.14 | mjc | er, they are both doing division |
| 01:22.28 | vhaarr | I'm not sure what you mean |
| 01:22.38 | ckknight | UnitHealth(unit) / UnitHealthMax("player") should be UnitHealth("player") / UnitHealthMax("player") |
| 01:22.40 | mjc | if UnitHealth("player") / UnitHealthMax("player") <= 0.03 then |
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| 01:22.59 | mjc | oh, I had another typo :P |
| 01:23.02 | ckknight | also, you should do local health = UnitHealth("player") / UnitHealthMax("player") |
| 01:23.07 | ckknight | if health <= 0.03 then |
| 01:23.11 | mjc | ah |
| 01:23.58 | mjc | fixt, reload ;) |
| 01:24.07 | ckknight | also, seems to be that SpecialEvents_NoLongerDying should be ClosetGnomeOhNoes_NoLongerDying |
| 01:24.16 | mjc | ckknight: doh |
| 01:24.18 | ckknight | and that you really don't need to use events |
| 01:24.23 | vhaarr | mjc: It doesn't seem like you're using AceLocale at all. |
| 01:24.25 | ckknight | and should just call it like a normal mehod |
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| 01:24.43 | mjc | vhaarr: neither was CG_Mount, which I copied and ripped out the functions :) |
| 01:24.52 | vhaarr | Yes it does. |
| 01:24.57 | ckknight | self:TriggerEvent("ClosetGnomeOhNoes_GetNakie") -> self:ClosetGnomeOhNoes_GetNakie() |
| 01:25.12 | ckknight | or more simply, self:GetNakie() |
| 01:25.23 | ckknight | same with ClosetGnomeOhNoes_NoLongerDying |
| 01:25.28 | mjc | in the middle of doin that now :) |
| 01:26.17 | mjc | vhaarr: diff the two :P |
| 01:26.23 | vhaarr | diff? |
| 01:26.31 | vhaarr | mjc: I'm saying you're not using AceLocale. |
| 01:26.34 | vhaarr | So just remove it. |
| 01:27.26 | mjc | oh you're right I pulled out all the L[]'s :p |
| 01:28.38 | mjc | there |
| 01:30.59 | mjc | ckknight: takes weapons off at 3% health, puts them back on if you regen |
| 01:31.17 | ckknight | I meant as far as your event scheme |
| 01:31.21 | mjc | oh |
| 01:31.31 | Kemayo | Is there a way to make AceDB reapply its magic ['*'] handling to a table? |
| 01:31.32 | mjc | completely unnecessary :) |
| 01:33.10 | mjc | ckknight: is there any way to fake the UNIT_HEALTH event I'm after to make sure that this works? |
| 01:33.33 | ckknight | AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):TriggerEvent("UNIT_HEALTH", "player") |
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| 01:34.12 | mjc | ckknight: well I wanted to specify unithealth and unitmaxhealth too, but I suppose I can just change the logic around |
| 01:34.33 | ckknight | or just get hurt. |
| 01:34.42 | mjc | lol |
| 01:34.56 | mjc | not really in the mood to get down to 3% health :P |
| 01:36.16 | kergoth | so change the threshold |
| 01:36.18 | kergoth | to 97% |
| 01:36.21 | kergoth | then go fight something |
| 01:36.24 | kergoth | :P |
| 01:36.36 | mjc | did |
| 01:36.51 | mjc | changed it to 99%, and am going to jump off somethin |
| 01:37.05 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:37.15 | mjc | once svkco.py finishes :) |
| 01:37.18 | kergoth | i love closegnome, almost time to drop itemrack from my set |
| 01:37.29 | kergoth | s/close/closet/ |
| 01:37.35 | mjc | kergoth: "unable to locate depot of AddOns" |
| 01:38.01 | mjc | $ time ./svkco.py //AddOns AddOns |
| 01:38.02 | kergoth | hmm, that doesnt make a lot of sense |
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| 01:38.28 | kergoth | it just goes through the depots in depotmap -l |
| 01:38.34 | kergoth | and figures out which one your path starts with |
| 01:38.37 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.41 | kergoth | (//AddOns starts with //...) |
| 01:38.47 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:39.02 | kergoth | oh |
| 01:39.03 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:39.21 | kergoth | i know whats causing it now, i changed the syntax, forgot you relied on the old one |
| 01:39.27 | mjc | ah |
| 01:39.29 | kergoth | it lets you specify a long list of upstream urls on the cmdline |
| 01:39.35 | kergoth | doesnt let you specify the local path |
| 01:39.56 | kergoth | i did that so we could do a bunch of checkouts in one execution, taking advantage of the update cache |
| 01:39.57 | mjc | just //AddOns ? |
| 01:40.04 | kergoth | it already did |
| 01:40.07 | kergoth | it does them in order |
| 01:40.12 | kergoth | mustve already finished checking out //AddOns |
| 01:40.13 | mjc | where's it checkout to |
| 01:40.36 | kergoth | should go to the basename of the rul |
| 01:40.37 | kergoth | url |
| 01:40.40 | kergoth | so to AddOns for tha tone |
| 01:40.42 | kergoth | by default |
| 01:41.06 | kergoth | i think its time to add commandline argument handling to svkco.py so we can add args to change behavior |
| 01:41.15 | kergoth | anyway, how long did it take? |
| 01:41.31 | mjc | 7 mins |
| 01:41.52 | kergoth | hahah |
| 01:42.02 | mjc | kergoth: you mean AddOns in the current dir? |
| 01:42.06 | kergoth | yep |
| 01:42.09 | mjc | ah |
| 01:42.11 | mjc | k, that's not bad |
| 01:42.30 | kergoth | its a sane default, i'll add a new cmdline arg to specify the local path, which will mean you can only specify one upstream path on the cmdline for that execution |
| 01:42.34 | kergoth | so we can do it both ways |
| 01:43.05 | mjc | just do --output or something |
| 01:43.14 | kergoth | yeah |
| 01:43.38 | Gemski | so yea, i just tried switching to !!!libs...im sticking with embeded. >.> |
| 01:43.39 | mjc | url,name pairs |
| 01:43.45 | mjc | Gemski: ? |
| 01:44.04 | kergoth | feels silly spending this much time on a little tool like this, but i use it all the damn time |
| 01:44.17 | mjc | kergoth: shouldn't feel silly, it's useful |
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| 01:45.17 | mjc | plus, it lets me bot my herbing skill up hwile I wait on it ;) |
| 01:46.28 | mjc | kergoth: should check the revisions w/ your python script too before you call a svk pull or something |
| 01:47.01 | mjc | seems to be taking the most time now |
| 01:47.23 | kergoth | yeah i thought about that. i think svk log supports using a format string, so i could make it more easily parsable |
| 01:47.37 | mjc | real 7m31.859s |
| 01:48.29 | mjc | Gemski: why did !!!Libs suck for you |
| 01:49.42 | mjc | he said he's going back to embeds. just curious why |
| 01:50.11 | Kemayo | Apart from TortoiseSVN not noticing that I've checked things out without externals, that is. |
| 01:51.06 | mjc | Kemayo: you don't have to edit the tocs eh? |
| 01:51.32 | Kemayo | mjc: I had to do it to TinyTip, as I recall. |
| 01:51.35 | mjc | ah. |
| 01:51.46 | kergoth | i've thought about switching to all standalone for everything i have, just for load time reasons |
| 01:51.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:52.42 | zanchez | why is it that Files |
| 01:52.42 | zanchez | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.50 | zanchez | ups =S |
| 01:52.57 | mjc | hum |
| 01:53.10 | zanchez | bad paste |
| 01:54.39 | zanchez | let me try again |
| 01:54.49 | zanchez | Files > Addons - Beta is linking svn.wowace.com/files/ and not www.wowace.com/files/ when im on the forums? |
| 01:55.09 | mjc | jumping from the gryph thingy in SW :P |
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| 01:57.59 | mjc | why is it that I cannot hurt myself when I want to |
| 01:58.01 | mjc | :P |
| 01:59.10 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:59.43 | mjc | hum, it didn't unequip anything |
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| 02:01.42 | tekkub | "He prefered cats to people" *giggle* |
| 02:01.52 | tekkub | me == Debussy! |
| 02:05.34 | mjc | hum |
| 02:06.27 | mjc | anyone got a sec? http://ace.pastey.net/1456 seems like it's firing but it's not actually swapping gear |
| 02:07.05 | kergoth | someone should do a lib for popout bars, like itemrack's and autobars |
| 02:07.13 | kergoth | boored |
| 02:07.27 | Xuerian | Those last two messages somehow go together. |
| 02:07.31 | Xuerian | I just... can't... figure... out... how |
| 02:07.38 | mjc | haha |
| 02:07.43 | mjc | Xuerian: how goes xloot |
| 02:07.53 | Xuerian | mjc: I'm going to kill you. |
| 02:07.54 | Xuerian | :P |
| 02:07.58 | mjc | heh |
| 02:08.10 | mjc | ok, so the event is firing |
| 02:08.19 | Xuerian | No, it's going alright, got herbs and chests hooked & translated (<hides BabbleSpell's looted corpse behind the shed>) |
| 02:08.21 | tekkub | he's got a lot of ketchup to do with me |
| 02:08.25 | Xuerian | Now I just have to stitch the loot part back together |
| 02:08.39 | mjc | Xuerian: haha |
| 02:08.43 | mjc | Xuerian: sweet |
| 02:09.08 | Xuerian | Now... Whaat did I breaaak.... |
| 02:11.05 | mjc | aw |
| 02:11.13 | mjc | well I'm writing my first addon |
| 02:11.16 | kergoth | Xuerian: whatcha workin on? |
| 02:11.18 | mjc | so all must be well in the end |
| 02:12.27 | Xuerian | kergoth: Re-writing the rats nest of shift-looting detection to be a little more logical [/glare mjc], adding herb/chest [shift]swiftlooting, making sure the option menu is functional... rubbing my temples from a headache... that sort of stuff |
| 02:12.42 | Xuerian | mjc: First addon? What's it gonna do? =D |
| 02:12.44 | mjc | :/ |
| 02:12.46 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 02:13.12 | mjc | Xuerian: ClosetGnome_OhNoes, unequips weapons when you hit a defined % health |
| 02:13.33 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r13499 10FuBar_ToFu/ (ToFu.lua ToFuDefaultTimes.lua): |
| 02:13.33 | CIA-17 | FuBar_ToFu: |
| 02:13.33 | CIA-17 | -Added more default time data. |
| 02:13.33 | CIA-17 | -Reworked DB-upgrade to avoid breaking ['*']. |
| 02:13.41 | Kebinusan | mjc, sounds fun on gluth :-) |
| 02:14.07 | Xuerian | haha, very nice mjc =D. I'd test it if I had the latency for it to work :P |
| 02:14.08 | mjc | bleh |
| 02:15.11 | mjc | ClosetGnome is using GetInventorySlotInfo(slot), but when I pass "MainHandSlot" to it, it doesn't actually unequip my weapon |
| 02:15.30 | mjc | well |
| 02:15.33 | mjc | actually |
| 02:16.15 | mjc | yeah, it's calling GetNakie() but the EquipItem call is doing eff all |
| 02:17.03 | Xuerian | pastie the nakie |
| 02:17.09 | Kebinusan | wow, the newer bittorrent is a cpu hog |
| 02:17.15 | mjc | http://ace.pastey.net/1456 |
| 02:17.28 | Xuerian | New bt? |
| 02:17.30 | kergoth | mjc: only concern i have is those close fights where you're both at 1% and the unequip prevents you from letting loose a 5 point evis :P |
| 02:17.34 | mjc | just a ClosetGnome:EquipItem("MainHandSlot",nil,true); |
| 02:18.01 | mjc | kergoth: I'd only turn it on when I care more about repair bills than about defeating %t |
| 02:18.17 | kergoth | raids, not farming |
| 02:18.26 | mjc | other way 'round |
| 02:18.30 | mjc | :) |
| 02:18.50 | mjc | I'd turn it on for farming, cause I know I won't get a heal, and turn it off for raids to get out the extra dps |
| 02:19.37 | mjc | Xuerian: pastied |
| 02:19.54 | kergoth | thats true, suppose you could equip that set manually if you know a wipe is imminent in a raid |
| 02:20.09 | mjc | yep |
| 02:20.15 | Xuerian | mjc: reading, figuring I'll have to up and get CG to really understand it's calls :p |
| 02:20.43 | Kebinusan | I was running 4.4 or something and now am running 4.24 I think, but the cpu usage seems kinda nutty |
| 02:20.46 | mjc | oh! I seel |
| 02:20.50 | mjc | he's special-casing false |
| 02:22.24 | mjc | kergoth: it's not using a Naked set at the moment, just manually de-equipping main/off/ranged |
| 02:22.33 | kergoth | i figured |
| 02:22.41 | kergoth | could have it create a naked set if you dont have one |
| 02:22.46 | kergoth | then just switch to that |
| 02:22.51 | mjc | it worked! |
| 02:22.54 | kergoth | hooray! |
| 02:23.06 | Xuerian | Grats :P |
| 02:23.29 | mjc | didn't reequip though |
| 02:23.41 | mjc | it should have reequippd after 2 seconds |
| 02:24.10 | kergoth | why not reequip when health goes back above the threshold? |
| 02:24.19 | mjc | that's what I set it to do |
| 02:24.42 | mjc | but the threshold for unequip is set to 99% at the moment while re-equip is 3% or greater |
| 02:24.49 | mjc | so it should have re-equipped after time elapsed |
| 02:24.56 | mjc | I think it can't find the item |
| 02:25.00 | kergoth | ah |
| 02:25.23 | Xuerian | if health <= 0.99 and not gotNakie then |
| 02:25.39 | mjc | ah |
| 02:25.42 | Xuerian | Not bug perhaps but if checking for 0.03 afterword in a elseif it wont' fire till 11111111 :) |
| 02:26.18 | mjc | Xuerian: what? |
| 02:27.14 | Xuerian | Well you check for health less than/= .99 before checking for .03 in a elseif. even if you're nakie it'll keep calling getnakie till 1.0 |
| 02:27.24 | Xuerian | Or am I missing something? |
| 02:27.47 | mjc | I just set it that way for testing |
| 02:27.53 | mjc | so I don't hagve to get to 3% health to fire getnakie |
| 02:28.14 | mjc | and I'm a healing class atm so getting to 100% is easy |
| 02:28.23 | Xuerian | Ohhh. Reading the whole thing on a 1-100 not 0.01 - 1 scale :P |
| 02:28.43 | kergoth | hmm, oCD needs an option to change its texture |
| 02:28.46 | Xuerian | Probably shouldn't try to debug someone else if I can't debug myself XD |
| 02:29.03 | mjc | though I guess it will set lastSetBeforeOhNoes to empty weapons in this case |
| 02:29.05 | mjc | good catch |
| 02:29.29 | Xuerian | It's not my fault! |
| 02:29.43 | Xuerian | he did it! |
| 02:29.48 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13500 10ag_UnitFrames/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:29.48 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames : |
| 02:29.48 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.48 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.33 | mjc | hum |
| 02:31.49 | mjc | lastSetBeforeOhNoes is doing nothing :P |
| 02:31.53 | mjc | always nil |
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| 02:37.06 | mjc | ok, I see how he does it in CG |
| 02:37.34 | Xuerian | Mm? |
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| 02:39.03 | mjc | gratuity:SetInventoryItem("player", invSlot), local currentItem = gratuity:GetLine(1), if item ~= currentItem then equipitem |
| 02:39.07 | mjc | blah this is retarded |
| 02:39.18 | mjc | CG needs an EquipLastItem |
| 02:44.02 | kergoth | yes it does. right now if you equip a full set, then equip a one item set, then mount and unmount, it switches on the one item set, leaving parts of the mount set on |
| 02:44.06 | kergoth | needs to revert slot by slot |
| 02:44.10 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:45.55 | Xuerian | table = {}; table.key = value; table[keyinvariable] = value; table = { key = value, key = { subkey, subkey } } |
| 02:46.13 | Xuerian | If you're familiar with arrays you don't really have to worry about much :P |
| 02:47.14 | Xuerian | er.. { subvalue, subvalue } since it auto-indexes values by ascending ints >< |
| 02:48.54 | mjc | I had already looked it up :) thanks though |
| 02:49.29 | mjc | if i want to empty the contents of a table, I can just set it to {} ? |
| 02:49.56 | Xuerian | ayep |
| 02:50.02 | mjc | k |
| 02:50.47 | Kemayo | mjc: If that table is in an AceDB, that'll break any wildcard keys until the UI reloads. |
| 02:51.07 | mjc | it's not |
| 02:51.18 | mjc | just doing local lastItems = {} |
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| 02:52.39 | mjc | horde at forests edge :P |
| 02:52.49 | mjc | (yes I meant that for this chan ) |
| 02:54.14 | mjc | ok, one last thing before I commit |
| 02:55.26 | Kemayo | I wanted to warn you, as that bit me earlier. :) |
| 02:58.25 | mjc | oh? |
| 03:00.38 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13501 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua: |
| 03:00.38 | CIA-17 | Mendeleev : |
| 03:00.38 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:02.04 | Kemayo | I was upgrading my DB by building a new one then swapping it out, and a few of my functions took advantage of being able to count on there always being a table there... but not! |
| 03:02.53 | mjc | ah |
| 03:03.00 | mjc | yeah I heard you grumbling about it |
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| 03:06.23 | mjc | wb tek |
| 03:06.33 | tekkub | stupid alcohol |
| 03:06.50 | tekkub | WTB free disc-mounting software for windows |
| 03:07.00 | tekkub | s/disc/disc image/ |
| 03:07.48 | mjc | my brain sufficiently hurts |
| 03:07.58 | tekkub | god damnit, it's still being stuptarded |
| 03:08.31 | mjc | tekkub: stab it |
| 03:08.43 | tekkub | can't stab a virtual drive... |
| 03:09.23 | mjc | hum |
| 03:09.44 | mjc | I'm trying to use self.db.profile.health, and it's failing saying it can't find self.db |
| 03:09.57 | mjc | do I need anything other than a registerdb and registerdefaults? |
| 03:11.03 | tekkub | registerdb is all you should need |
| 03:11.25 | tekkub | fuck it |
| 03:11.30 | mjc | let me pastey |
| 03:11.33 | tekkub | free alternative to Alch120%? |
| 03:11.52 | mjc | http://ace.pastey.net/1457 |
| 03:11.58 | mjc | tekkub: daemon tools |
| 03:12.01 | Xuerian | mjc: Tried registering your db in self:OnInitialize() ? |
| 03:12.27 | mjc | no, but CG_Mount doesn't do that |
| 03:12.36 | mjc | tekkub: http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/download.php |
| 03:12.45 | tekkub | already there :) |
| 03:12.46 | mjc | make sure not to install the search bar |
| 03:12.57 | mjc | and, it only mounts, no burning |
| 03:13.13 | tekkub | don't have a burner in this box |
| 03:13.17 | mjc | ah |
| 03:13.28 | mjc | Xuerian: see pastey, or was that in response to my pastey |
| 03:14.14 | mjc | Xuerian: it prints out a usage message but apparently my get/set functions for 'percent' are unable to use self.db |
| 03:15.10 | mjc | oh! |
| 03:15.15 | mjc | self is not what I expect there |
| 03:15.35 | Xuerian | yeaaah just lazy to type it out :P |
| 03:17.21 | Xuerian | http://ace.pastey.net/1458 |
| 03:17.35 | Xuerian | er |
| 03:17.44 | Xuerian | function ClosetGnomeOhNoes:On...* |
| 03:18.02 | mjc | I got it |
| 03:18.30 | mjc | well |
| 03:18.34 | mjc | I mean I know what I have to do :) |
| 03:19.46 | mjc | god I feel so dumb for spending like 2 hours on this fpos |
| 03:20.21 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 03:20.23 | Xuerian | It worked? |
| 03:21.42 | mjc | couple minor bugs still |
| 03:22.23 | Xuerian | If it makes you feel any better, I've spent more than a few hours on this shiftlooting modification, you know when I started and I haven't done anything in the last 45 minutes XD |
| 03:22.24 | mjc | usage shows: /ohnoes {percent | percent | percent | ... |
| 03:22.38 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13502 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: Antagonist - Bug fix: no longer shows cooldown bars triggered by casts/buffs (Multishot/Blink/few others) if cooldowns are disabled. |
| 03:22.58 | Xuerian | o_O |
| 03:23.08 | kergoth | someone should do a little addon to put damage per energy or damage per rage on ability buttons |
| 03:23.49 | Xuerian | I think it does. o_O |
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| 03:23.51 | Sole | hai |
| 03:23.55 | Xuerian | Ho. |
| 03:23.55 | mjc | nice idea |
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| 03:24.57 | mjc | wb tekkie |
| 03:25.43 | Sole | wow |
| 03:25.49 | Sole | why is curse taking so damn long to approve Antagonist? |
| 03:25.58 | Xuerian | mjc: name = 'Health percent', |
| 03:26.18 | mjc | I'm just using name = "percent" |
| 03:26.38 | Xuerian | yea, that's my only idea :P |
| 03:27.10 | mjc | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 03:27.11 | mjc | -- Locals -- |
| 03:27.12 | mjc | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 03:27.14 | mjc | local L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.0"):new("ClosetGnomeOhNoes") |
| 03:27.14 | mjc | local gratuity = AceLibrary("Gratuity-2.0") |
| 03:27.16 | mjc | local lastItems = {} |
| 03:27.16 | mjc | local gotNakie = nil |
| 03:27.17 | mjc | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 03:27.18 | mjc | -- Addon declaration -- |
| 03:27.19 | mjc | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 03:27.21 | mjc | ClosetGnomeOhNoes = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceDB-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0") |
| 03:27.34 | tekkub | *sigh* |
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| 03:27.45 | Xuerian | I think it was accidental :p |
| 03:28.01 | tekkub | "OhNoes" is appropriate tho |
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| 03:28.11 | Xuerian | Haha, yeah, and I like the function declarations |
| 03:28.34 | mjc | hum? |
| 03:28.34 | Sole | lawl local gotNakie |
| 03:28.34 | mjc | yeah. |
| 03:28.44 | mjc | ok, so why's it doing all this voodoo |
| 03:28.49 | Xuerian | Well |
| 03:28.51 | mjc | http://ace.pastey.net/1459 |
| 03:28.51 | tekkub | "local gotNakie = nil" Useless declarations FTW! |
| 03:29.19 | mjc | tekkub: I wasn't sure how scope worked |
| 03:29.21 | Xuerian | tekkeyub: He has to declare it local somewhere. Or was it someone else going on a "Locals are faster" crusade.... |
| 03:29.26 | mjc | so I just defined it somewhere |
| 03:29.29 | tekkub | "= nil" |
| 03:29.50 | mjc | tekkub: what should i use instead, "" ? |
| 03:29.55 | Xuerian | nothing XD |
| 03:29.58 | mjc | or just nothing |
| 03:30.03 | tekkub | if you don't define it, it's nil |
| 03:30.35 | kergoth | just local gotNakie |
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| 03:30.56 | kergoth | ya know, the bantobar texture has really grown on me |
| 03:31.01 | kergoth | i used to despise it, now i use it everywhere |
| 03:31.02 | malreth | me too! |
| 03:31.11 | tekkub | "if not ClosetGnome then return end " I assume it's a ReqDep? then you don't need to check for it if you define the TOC right |
| 03:31.44 | tekkub | function ClosetGnomeOhNoes:GetHealth() |
| 03:31.44 | tekkub | return self.db.profile.health |
| 03:31.44 | tekkub | end |
| 03:31.54 | tekkub | use the direct table call, it's faster than a function call |
| 03:32.01 | tekkub | er, cheaper :) |
| 03:32.49 | mjc | tekkub: right now the whole chatcommand thing doesn't work at all |
| 03:32.54 | tekkub | :{ |
| 03:33.02 | mjc | so, more concerned about working than about speed |
| 03:33.02 | malreth | tekkub: no!!! opaque interfaces! |
| 03:33.03 | mjc | :P |
| 03:33.30 | tekkub | mjc, you probably need to define handler in the root table if you use strings for your get/set |
| 03:33.39 | mjc | ? |
| 03:33.51 | tekkub | I think that's a requirement of that syntax that's not explicitly stated anywhere in the API docs |
| 03:33.53 | mjc | tekkub: you speak juju |
| 03:34.23 | tekkub | ClosetGnomeOhNoes:RegisterChatCommand({ "/ohnoes", "/oh"}, { |
| 03:34.23 | tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.43 | tekkub | that way ClosetGnomeOhNoes:getHealth is called correctly |
| 03:34.57 | tekkub | or you can just define a function explicitly |
| 03:35.25 | tekkub | get = function() return ClosetGnomeOhNoes.db.profile.health end, |
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| 03:41.52 | Gemski | !branch ElkBuffBar |
| 03:42.00 | CIA-17 | 03curney * r13503 10Prat/ (19 files in 3 dirs): |
| 03:42.00 | CIA-17 | Prat : |
| 03:42.01 | CIA-17 | - added localization to each module file |
| 03:42.01 | CIA-17 | - removed locales folder |
| 03:42.01 | CIA-17 | - added option to toggle who module on/off |
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| 03:45.53 | Prophy | so with antagonist you dont need NaturCastbar anymore eh? |
| 03:47.07 | Gemski | well depends on what you use natur for |
| 03:47.18 | Gemski | if all you want in enemy cast bars, then you dont need it |
| 03:47.40 | Gemski | but if you are using pve stuff, then you might /shrug |
| 03:53.11 | Prophy | hmm still can't see enemycast bars...was outside IF targeted a few players..but couldn't see their timers |
| 03:54.36 | Gemski | you need hostel to see them from players |
| 03:54.58 | Gemski | hostel is what i use |
| 03:55.44 | mjc | now it doesn't seem to want to do anything at all |
| 03:55.48 | mjc | it was working a second ago |
| 03:56.10 | mjc | it says it's enabled |
| 03:56.24 | mjc | oh typo in file |
| 03:57.57 | tekkub | every time I open my What THe Fuck folder I get this happy feeling |
| 03:58.59 | mjc | heh ? |
| 03:59.04 | mjc | tekkub: oh |
| 03:59.05 | mjc | heh |
| 03:59.36 | mjc | I'm 100% certain that was intentional, tek |
| 03:59.44 | tekkub | oh me too |
| 04:00.10 | tekkub | Yea boss, it stands for... uh... Wrapper Filter Layer |
| 04:00.15 | tekkub | er... yea |
| 04:00.23 | tekkub | get the letter right |
| 04:00.49 | tekkub | Whole Truncated Folder... it's a techie term |
| 04:00.49 | mjc | warcraft text file |
| 04:01.09 | mjc | tekkub: CG_ON works :D |
| 04:03.25 | mjc | and get laughed at ;) |
| 04:04.23 | Azurewrath | mhm.. anyone know of a Ace2 "display cooldown numbers and red/blue out actionbar buttons on range/mana"-thingie? |
| 04:04.46 | Sole | Prophy: you have to be fighting a hostile unit to get enemy cast bars with Antagonist, it doesnt work on friendly players unless youre in a duel |
| 04:05.17 | Sole | Gemski: you use hostel over Antagonist? |
| 04:06.13 | Azurewrath | hi Sole :) |
| 04:06.28 | Sole | hai2u |
| 04:06.33 | Azurewrath | do you know if bhattu is on IRC? |
| 04:06.35 | kergoth | Azurewrath: not offhand, i think most just use iriel's redrange |
| 04:06.44 | Sole | no idea |
| 04:06.47 | mjc | bah |
| 04:07.00 | kergoth | and omni_cc for cooldown counts |
| 04:07.01 | mjc | checking out //wowace/trunk takes too long, someone needs to clean it up |
| 04:07.02 | mjc | :P |
| 04:07.29 | Azurewrath | mjc: worked fine for me the last 42 times i did that today ;p |
| 04:07.39 | mjc | svk? |
| 04:07.57 | kergoth | svn needs to get views itself, externals is such a hack |
| 04:07.59 | kergoth | :\ |
| 04:09.51 | mjc | kergoth: svk ci takes forever |
| 04:09.51 | CIA-17 | 03mjc * r13504 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ (. ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua ClosetGnome_OhNoes.toc): |
| 04:09.51 | CIA-17 | ClosetGnome_OhNoes: Automatically unequips weapons when you reach a defined health percentage, and re-equips when you regenerate (eg to save on repairs when a wipe is imminent) |
| 04:09.52 | CIA-17 | NOTE: default is set to unequip/reequip at 99% for testing purposes... |
| 04:09.55 | mjc | speak of the devil. |
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| 04:10.19 | mjc | !toc ClosetGnome_OhNoes |
| 04:10.23 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/ClosetGnome_OhNoes |
| 04:10.28 | mjc | !trunk ClosetGnome_OhNoes |
| 04:10.32 | SVNBot | You can already find the latest revision of ClosetGnome_OhNoes at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ |
| 04:11.41 | Sole | !toc Antagonist |
| 04:11.56 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Antagonist |
| 04:12.38 | Gemski | Why does mountme have "Dependencies: Ace" but then "OptionalDeps: Ace2" in toc |
| 04:12.51 | mjc | cause tekkub's weird? |
| 04:13.16 | tekkub | because it's not converted but uses Ace2 libs |
| 04:13.21 | mjc | heh |
| 04:13.24 | mjc | smexy. |
| 04:13.28 | Gemski | so it uses both? |
| 04:13.30 | mjc | what's with the lowercase t, T |
| 04:15.23 | tekkub | yes, why would it have deps otherwise |
| 04:15.38 | Gemski | just curious >.< |
| 04:18.06 | Gemski | !branches mrplow |
| 04:18.19 | mjc | kkk Kaelten needs to deuce KCI :( |
| 04:18.20 | Mikma | lol i made moonwolf to localize Mendy? |
| 04:18.53 | mjc | someone slaughter me over CG_ON |
| 04:18.55 | Gemski | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:23.35 | Kebinusan | Hmm, I found a bug in armormeter I should try to fix it |
| 04:23.37 | Azurewrath | mhm... am i doing something terribly wrong in bartender2 or can i only use page 1&2 of the Actionbar 1? Every other page from 3-6 seems to be just a duplicate of the bars 2-5. |
| 04:26.36 | Plorkyeran | That's how the blizz bars work |
| 04:27.17 | Azurewrath | great... how can anyon live with just 60 buttons.. :/ |
| 04:27.25 | mjc | hahah |
| 04:27.31 | Azurewrath | still DAB then... *sigh* |
| 04:27.36 | Sole | eww |
| 04:27.38 | Sole | ewww |
| 04:27.39 | mjc | how the fuck do you need 60 buttons |
| 04:27.39 | Sole | ewww |
| 04:27.57 | Sole | and how the fuck DO you need 60 buttons, Im curious as well |
| 04:28.11 | Plorkyeran | Meh, I use 60 on my priest |
| 04:28.21 | Plorkyeran | And I'd probably use more if I had them |
| 04:28.34 | mjc | I use 36 on my druid, and that's including all forms |
| 04:28.37 | mjc | so um |
| 04:28.40 | mjc | you both are on crack |
| 04:28.46 | Sole | druids = most buttons |
| 04:28.52 | Plorkyeran | Do you only use one rank of each spell or something? |
| 04:28.57 | Plorkyeran | Or not have any consumables on buttons? |
| 04:29.11 | Sole | consumeables = autobar or XAD |
| 04:29.21 | Azurewrath | 15 buttons for my hidden/shift-2 craftbar.. and errr *calculate* 50 buttons visible all the time |
| 04:29.28 | mjc | Plorkyeran: neither. plowking for consumables and alt for lower ranks |
| 04:29.34 | Plorkyeran | Can't stand autobar |
| 04:29.46 | Plorkyeran | I don't want to burn 5g on a major mana pot if I don't need to :P |
| 04:30.06 | Plorkyeran | Or use a cheap pot when I need a major mana pot |
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| 04:30.19 | mjc | user error |
| 04:30.20 | PProvost | Plorkyeran, XAD will pick the right pot/food/water based on what you need. |
| 04:30.32 | Plorkyeran | No, it won't |
| 04:30.39 | PProvost | Does for me. |
| 04:30.40 | Plorkyeran | It'll chose the right pot based on what it thinks I need |
| 04:30.44 | broadcast_ | I use a lot on my druid and shaman :( |
| 04:30.50 | PProvost | Plorkyeran, fair enough. |
| 04:31.20 | Plorkyeran | And most of the different food/drinks I have give different buffs, which stack... |
| 04:31.25 | Plorkyeran | Making it not very useful for that |
| 04:32.12 | mjc | I open my bags for food/water |
| 04:32.37 | mjc | well |
| 04:32.49 | mjc | PK open for cats food/water/pts |
| 04:32.52 | kergoth | Plorkyeran: agreed. i want one button for regular food, anothe rfor sta food, another for.. |
| 04:32.53 | mjc | pots |
| 04:33.05 | mjc | no need for buttons for something that already has an interface |
| 04:33.07 | Plorkyeran | The problem with auto-pot selection is that sometimes I'll be at 85% mana and just popping a greater mana pot because they're basically free, so why not? |
| 04:33.16 | mjc | try plowking |
| 04:33.27 | Plorkyeran | And sometimes I'll be chugging a major mana pot because I'll run out of mana by the end of the fight otherwise |
| 04:33.40 | Plorkyeran | But there's no real way for a mod to tell the difference |
| 04:33.40 | mjc | speaking of plowking |
| 04:33.46 | mjc | ~seen wobin |
| 04:34.00 | purl | wobin is currently on #gnu-kbsd (1d 7h 38m 21s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 16h 9m 37s, last said: 'raph_ael: do you have the ipfw kernel module loaded?'. |
| 04:34.00 | tekkub | *points at gtalk* |
| 04:35.36 | mjc | Plorkyeran: plowking. ;) |
| 04:35.49 | mjc | basically, keep your bags open 24x7 :P |
| 04:35.56 | Plorkyeran | That'd require clicking on them |
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| 04:36.03 | mjc | not w/ plowking :) |
| 04:36.04 | Plorkyeran | And it's more wasted screen space than a button |
| 04:36.20 | mjc | not really |
| 04:36.36 | Plorkyeran | How could it possibly be less? |
| 04:36.43 | mjc | plowking splits your bags up into categories |
| 04:36.45 | mjc | it's about the same |
| 04:36.57 | Plorkyeran | How is a button in a box smaller than a button not in a box? |
| 04:37.25 | mjc | I didn't say it was smaller |
| 04:37.28 | mjc | I said not really |
| 04:37.36 | Plorkyeran | Then what's the point? |
| 04:37.37 | mjc | it's not really that much extra space |
| 04:37.57 | mjc | and it keeps you form having to keep track of/learn the buttons when they add new pots and shite |
| 04:38.40 | mjc | man, maintenance is soon. that blows |
| 04:38.42 | Plorkyeran | So I should install a new addon to avoid having to drag the pot from my bag to a button once? |
| 04:38.43 | mjc | tuesdays blow |
| 04:39.04 | mjc | Plorkyeran: I'm just saying you should try it :p |
| 04:39.26 | Plorkyeran | And I'm saying I don't see any point to trying it |
| 04:39.40 | Plorkyeran | I'm not even sure why it exists based on the threads about it |
| 04:39.50 | mjc | forget I bothered |
| 04:41.53 | Sole | I tink you hurted his feelings =[ |
| 04:43.09 | Sole | anyway can anyone recommend an addon with a simple Dewdrop menu? Im looking at agUF but its aparent it has some unique stuff which gets in the way of me seeing the basic structure :( |
| 04:43.29 | Sole | well I mean I can see the basic table structure for the actual menu, its just like the console tables |
| 04:43.51 | Azurewrath | hmmm, maybe XLoot |
| 04:43.53 | Sole | Im just not sure which methods I have to run to initialize it...register? feed or inject table? |
| 04:44.15 | Sole | thanks |
| 04:45.14 | hyperChipmunk | hehe check it out; my girlfriend drew this up while I was napping just now: |
| 04:45.20 | hyperChipmunk | http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=botparkfp5.png |
| 04:46.02 | Xuerian | Uh |
| 04:46.13 | Xuerian | I don't... use... dewdrop.. properly |
| 04:46.19 | Xuerian | I cheat and use aceoptions menus |
| 04:46.21 | Xuerian | :P |
| 04:47.23 | Sole | BAH |
| 04:47.30 | Sole | i need a proper example :( |
| 04:47.47 | kergoth | what exactly are you trying to accomplish? |
| 04:48.32 | Sole | Xuerian: it looks clean enough for me to figure out what to do :) |
| 04:48.39 | Sole | kergoth: just figuring out Dewdrop |
| 04:50.04 | haste | Sole: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/oApplication/oApplication.lua << local table |
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| 04:51.21 | Xuerian | Sole: Heheheh, it ... works :P |
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| 04:54.21 | Sole | Xuerian: hehe Ive rewritten HostelBar/Antagonist like 3 times now ..first time I just wrote it to work now I actually wrote it to be efficient |
| 04:54.27 | Sole | thanks haste |
| 04:55.30 | vid` | i havent used hostelbar yet, still working on replacing all my mods with ace versions |
| 04:55.37 | vid` | whats it do? it like necb? |
| 04:55.40 | Sole | vid: use Antagonist |
| 04:55.47 | vid` | thats what i got from the description |
| 04:55.51 | Sole | vid: Antagonist + Chronometer are like necb |
| 04:55.52 | vid` | ah that your new ver? |
| 04:55.55 | vid` | oh nice |
| 04:55.55 | Sole | yea |
| 04:55.56 | vid` | :) |
| 04:56.03 | Sole | Antagonist tracks casting times, buffs and cooldowns |
| 04:56.03 | Xuerian | Lol, Sole. Guess I'll have to try it Ant & chrono again :P |
| 04:56.21 | Sole | Chronometer tracks your combat buffs and mainly debuffs you cast |
| 04:56.34 | Sole | I heart Chronometer :) |
| 04:56.38 | vid` | sweet |
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| 04:58.15 | Sole | hnnn |
| 04:58.33 | Sole | with a dewdrop lib, Im thinking of just removing the slash commands from ant |
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| 04:58.46 | kergoth | why not just use aceoptions? |
| 04:58.48 | Xuerian | If you use a AceOptions table, just do both |
| 04:58.53 | Sole | hmm true |
| 04:59.14 | Xuerian | You sacrifice a little flexibility from dewdrop, but it works with DeuceCommander, slash commands, and your dropdown |
| 04:59.58 | mjc | MCP needs an aceoptions |
| 05:00.11 | Xuerian | o_O |
| 05:00.29 | Xuerian | Heheh |
| 05:00.56 | mjc | might take a look at MCP tomorrow I think it'd be cool to have /mcp and a deucecommander menu :) |
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| 05:02.17 | CIA-17 | 03curney * r13506 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat : made tabcompletion an optional feature, not something that is always on |
| 05:02.53 | CIA-17 | 03hshh * r13507 10EQCompare/ (8 files): |
| 05:02.53 | CIA-17 | EQCompare: |
| 05:02.53 | CIA-17 | - version bump to 1.2 |
| 05:02.53 | CIA-17 | - separate locales to multi files, and add de/fr/tw support(except locales of slash command describe) |
| 05:02.53 | CIA-17 | - add hook for other mod, you can use EQCompare:RegisterTooltip(tooltip) to hook your tooltip for display compare info, and use EQCompare:UnRegisterTooltip(tooltip) to un-register. |
| 05:02.57 | CIA-17 | - add EquipCompare compat code, EquipCompare_RegisterTooltip and EquipCompare_UnregisterTooltip |
| 05:02.59 | CIA-17 | - add AtlasLoot support |
| 05:03.15 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/EQCompare |
| 05:04.08 | CIA-17 | 03mjc * r13508 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ (. ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua): |
| 05:04.08 | CIA-17 | r14625@powerbook: mjc | 2006-10-10 01:02:31 -0400 |
| 05:04.08 | CIA-17 | ClosetGnome_OhNoes: reducing default swap percentage to something more sane (3%) |
| 05:05.01 | mjc | anyone going to try that thing? |
| 05:05.08 | haste | nope |
| 05:05.24 | haste | but I wrote a bag search add on, which highlights slots based on what you write |
| 05:05.29 | mjc | or did I write it just to satisfy my own curiosity |
| 05:05.35 | haste | since I spent 1h looking for an item on two accounts and seven chars... |
| 05:06.01 | haste | just need to finish bank scanning, and it's complete! |
| 05:06.04 | mjc | heh |
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| 05:06.07 | haste | but that I don't have time for today :( |
| 05:06.10 | haste | Bye! |
| 05:06.13 | Sole | bai |
| 05:06.30 | Sole | hmm |
| 05:06.53 | Sole | so how do I stop Dewdrop from listing the command which opens the dropdown? |
| 05:07.06 | deci | ask it nicely |
| 05:07.09 | deci | :P |
| 05:07.11 | Sole | can I just hug it? |
| 05:07.36 | Xuerian | Two tables, one wrapping the other for the commandline, one to use in dewdrop :P |
| 05:07.45 | Xuerian | Oh |
| 05:07.49 | Xuerian | Shit. Tired. Um... |
| 05:07.59 | Xuerian | guiHidden = true |
| 05:08.02 | Xuerian | :) |
| 05:08.04 | mjc | s/ss/s/ |
| 05:08.05 | Sole | thankee |
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| 05:08.16 | mjc | wb ck |
| 05:08.47 | mjc | clad|sleep: ping, when you're up |
| 05:09.55 | mjc | man my machine spends a lot of time in system |
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| 05:12.22 | mjc | wb ckk |
| 05:12.39 | ckknight_ | lousy cords |
| 05:12.57 | mjc | is it possible to do a solid .zip file ? or should I just distribute a .7z |
| 05:14.23 | Xuerian | Zip the addon folder inside a folder bearing it's name. Zip -> AddonName\Files :P. .zip works well. |
| 05:22.48 | Sole | hmm |
| 05:22.51 | Sole | so thats weird |
| 05:23.08 | Sole | Ive got an AceOpts table for cmd and dewdrop |
| 05:23.14 | Sole | the cmd works perfectly |
| 05:23.34 | Sole | however when I try to open the dewdrop it pops an error "type must be "string"" |
| 05:23.56 | Sole | only problem is if the type wasnt a string then wouldnt the cmd have already freaked out? |
| 05:24.00 | Xuerian | pastie. |
| 05:24.12 | Sole | pastie the whole table? |
| 05:24.26 | Xuerian | and where you register/open it |
| 05:25.04 | Sole | kk sec |
| 05:27.28 | Sole | Xuerian: http://pastebin.co.uk/3960 |
| 05:27.34 | Sole | warning: youre about to see a messy |
| 05:27.38 | Sole | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:29.53 | Sole | Xuerian: notice anything? |
| 05:30.51 | Xuerian | "table", where does that come from? |
| 05:31.25 | Sole | bah forgot ..I changed the name of the table >< |
| 05:31.40 | Sole | thanks ...lol what a dumb mistake |
| 05:31.48 | Xuerian | Also, make a table without the initial args group |
| 05:31.59 | Xuerian | hm |
| 05:32.35 | Xuerian | Yeah, without the initial group, feed that to dewdrop and wrap it in a group to register as a slash command |
| 05:34.45 | Xuerian | seriously ignore the wrapping gibberish. |
| 05:34.51 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 05:34.54 | Sole | lawl |
| 05:35.10 | Sole | hmm |
| 05:35.48 | Xuerian | If you need to paste any more code, use ace.pastey.net ish easier to read :) |
| 05:37.03 | Sole | Bad argument #2 (Table expected, got nil) |
| 05:37.28 | Xuerian | Paste the whole file and gimmie a line number >_> |
| 05:37.54 | Sole | dewdrop:Open(UIParent, 'children', function() dewdrop:FeedAceOptionsTable(options) end,'cursorX', true, 'cursorY', true) |
| 05:37.58 | Sole | that line |
| 05:38.03 | FISKER_Q | :O |
| 05:38.11 | FISKER_Q | Autobar just went ace2 |
| 05:38.14 | Sole | :O |
| 05:38.27 | Sole | anyway Im gonna go eat |
| 05:38.29 | Sole | brb |
| 05:38.45 | ckknight | you can't just "go" Ace2 |
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| 05:38.50 | ckknight | you're born that way |
| 05:38.52 | FISKER_Q | :o |
| 05:39.02 | Xuerian | XD |
| 05:39.08 | FISKER_Q | well afterall ace2 was on his list :) |
| 05:39.13 | Xuerian | self.options, no? |
| 05:39.16 | ckknight | pray out the Cosmos! |
| 05:39.20 | Industrial | Anyone here use gatherer? |
| 05:39.28 | Industrial | Wanna share your database? |
| 05:39.31 | Industrial | =P |
| 05:39.31 | Xuerian | Ah no, nevermind.... |
| 05:40.33 | Industrial | tom.wieland@gmail.com \o/ |
| 05:47.00 | FISKER_Q | Is there a cool buffing check addon |
| 05:47.15 | FISKER_Q | which supports more than just usual stuff like fortitude and mark of the wild |
| 05:47.16 | FISKER_Q | ? |
| 05:48.31 | Xuerian | XRS |
| 05:49.25 | FISKER_Q | it supports custom buffs? :I |
| 05:49.43 | Xuerian | Duno. :P |
| 05:49.54 | Industrial | malreth: -__ |
| 05:49.57 | Industrial | -_- even |
| 05:57.02 | deci | ._. |
| 05:57.53 | malreth | u_u |
| 06:09.23 | FISKER_Q | anyone know what the difference in a global and local custom bar in bigwigs is? |
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| 06:27.11 | Thiana | Fisker: /bwcb goes to the entire raid, the other is just on your screen. |
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| 06:39.44 | Industrial | http://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_101006_083655fba.jpg |
| 06:39.48 | Industrial | sergio: my bars atm |
| 06:39.55 | Industrial | if aunit doesnt have mana the mana bar isnt there |
| 06:40.15 | Industrial | will add text to the left of the bars and buffs to the right |
| 06:41.41 | Elkano | ... good (whatever)... 2nd examn in algorithms and data structures is scheduled in about 6h :/ |
| 06:43.52 | Sole | =[ |
| 06:44.02 | Cartas | H |
| 06:44.03 | Cartas | , |
| 06:44.04 | Cartas | Hm*! |
| 06:44.19 | Cartas | Does Prat make the arrow keys move through your typing-chat? :O |
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| 06:44.46 | Cartas | As in, the bar you type your chat in... if I'm making any sense... |
| 06:45.41 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13509 10BigWigs/Extras/Tranq.lua: BigWigs : update locals koKR |
| 06:45.46 | kergoth | the chat edtibox? yes, prat can do that |
| 06:46.21 | Cartas | It does do that... |
| 06:46.23 | Cartas | How do I stop it doing that? |
| 06:46.28 | Cartas | It doesn't seem to have an option for it. |
| 06:46.42 | kergoth | why not just disable that module? |
| 06:46.50 | Cartas | There is no module for it |
| 06:47.01 | Cartas | It just does it? |
| 06:47.09 | kergoth | .. |
| 06:47.12 | kergoth | everything in prat is a module. |
| 06:47.23 | kergoth | and all the modules can be toggled. |
| 06:47.37 | Cartas | Buttons, ChannelNames, ChatLink, Fading, FontSize, PlayerNames, StickyChannels, TellTarget, TimeStamps, URLCopy. |
| 06:47.39 | Cartas | Which one of those does it? |
| 06:48.16 | Cartas | Ahh |
| 06:48.16 | kergoth | editbox, perhaps? |
| 06:48.19 | kergoth | look again. |
| 06:48.23 | Cartas | Found it :P |
| 06:48.31 | Cartas | I thought you meant it was a seperate addon :( |
| 06:48.48 | Xuerian | Nah, he merged all the plugins into modules... |
| 06:49.25 | Cartas | Thanks, Kergoth, old chap! |
| 06:49.47 | Industrial | used to be EditboxArrows doing it |
| 06:50.01 | Cartas | That's what I was thinking. |
| 06:50.11 | Cartas | I should have just stuck with idChat2! |
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| 06:52.24 | Cartas | So many problems with updating my addons this morning :( |
| 06:53.42 | Sole | http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f369/Banzinator/wtfblizz.jpg |
| 06:54.00 | Cartas | lol |
| 06:54.03 | Cartas | Nerf hunters! |
| 06:54.11 | Sole | lol I love my rogue but thats a bit silly >_< |
| 06:54.31 | Sole | hey you hunters...you wear mail but youll have higher agil anyway O_O |
| 06:54.40 | Cartas | and uber DPS! |
| 06:54.43 | Cartas | and overpowered pets. |
| 06:54.48 | Sole | wow |
| 06:54.51 | Cartas | And don't forget traps, and feign death! |
| 06:55.03 | Sole | http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8782/lol41pteh2.png I love this one |
| 06:55.32 | Cartas | Haha |
| 06:55.56 | Cartas | "and you cannot be stopped unless killed." |
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| 06:56.03 | Cartas | That should just say, "and you cannot be stopped." |
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| 06:58.04 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r13510 10XLoot/ (8 files): |
| 06:58.04 | CIA-17 | XLoot: Added: Swift-Shift-Looting of Herbs & Containers/chests (Hopefully containers, anyway) |
| 06:58.04 | CIA-17 | Highlighting of loot rows & icons with quality threshold. |
| 06:58.05 | CIA-17 | Barebones de/fr/cn translations for swiftlooting. |
| 06:58.38 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/XLoot |
| 07:00.01 | kergoth | hmm, the new autobar is quite nice, but still a beast |
| 07:00.06 | kergoth | he needs to make that config LoD or something |
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| 07:09.33 | BoltR | Oh man, a tank using cg_OhNoes would be pure comedy ;p |
| 07:09.44 | kergoth | hehe. who needs weapons anyway |
| 07:09.47 | kergoth | box it out |
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| 07:10.03 | BoltR | "Why did you take off your shield! You were at full health!" |
| 07:12.54 | Kebinusan | boltr, it'd be alot of fun on gluth for everyone |
| 07:13.01 | kergoth | as mjc said, its probably most useful when farming rather than in raids |
| 07:13.09 | BoltR | ahaha true |
| 07:13.16 | Kebinusan | bleh |
| 07:13.32 | Kebinusan | I hate this, I keep finding all kinds of little things I should try to account for in this mod |
| 07:19.58 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13511 10XLoot/localization.koKR.lua: XLoot: update locals koKR |
| 07:24.08 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13512 10Prat/ (17 files in 2 dirs): Prat : update locals koKR |
| 07:30.03 | Kebinusan | ~whalestab ArmorMeter |
| 07:30.11 | purl | ACTION stabs ArmorMeter with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 07:31.40 | kergoth | armormeter? |
| 07:32.48 | Kebinusan | yea |
| 07:33.06 | Kebinusan | Its a mod someone pointed me to that doesnt seem to be published anywhere so Im fiddling with it fixing some bugs |
| 07:33.09 | Sole | ~whalestab my dewdrop skills |
| 07:33.11 | purl | ACTION stabs my dewdrop skills with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 07:33.30 | kergoth | ah. whats it do? |
| 07:33.37 | Sole | wow |
| 07:33.38 | Kebinusan | it uses non variable damage attacks like kick, gouge, pummel, hamstring, bloodthirst to determine a targets AC value |
| 07:33.46 | kergoth | nifty |
| 07:33.50 | Sole | nifty |
| 07:33.59 | Kebinusan | and furthermore report the potential damage gain from being fully sundered, CoR, Faerie Fired |
| 07:33.59 | Sole | I just noticed priests got re-shafted |
| 07:34.15 | Sole | 41 pt shadow talent is no longer a shadow version of flash heal >_<...its some extra dot |
| 07:34.31 | Sole | which I suppose is actually pretty pro considering the DOT power of a UD shad priest |
| 07:34.52 | oxman | the new dot of shadow is very uber :p |
| 07:35.04 | Industrial | url? |
| 07:35.10 | Sole | sw:p, devouring plague, vamp embrace, vamp touch, lots of stuff ticking that people will ignore but will actually make the difference |
| 07:35.11 | oxman | official web site |
| 07:35.18 | Sole | but I dunno |
| 07:35.23 | Industrial | >_> |
| 07:35.25 | Sole | hunter talents seem a bit on the wtfown side |
| 07:35.28 | Kebinusan | But it seems Id need to possibly take into account things like hemo and gift of arthas in order to make sure the calculations are accurate |
| 07:35.46 | Kebinusan | sole, supposedly they are reducing the 1ap = 2rap thing to 1=1 or something thing though |
| 07:35.54 | Sole | yea |
| 07:35.57 | Sole | and buffing itemization |
| 07:36.03 | Sole | and increasing damage of ranged weps |
| 07:36.09 | Sole | blue said it |
| 07:36.32 | kergoth | my rogue dies in pvp most often from locks and preists, usually after i've killed them |
| 07:36.34 | kergoth | fucking dots |
| 07:36.46 | Kebinusan | Anyone know if rend damage is affected by armor? |
| 07:37.14 | Sole | plus you know...the 41 pt beast mastery talent is an 18 sec version of the 41 pt subtlety talent..which lasts 4 sec |
| 07:37.32 | Sole | oh and misdirection - hunters need that with feign death |
| 07:38.08 | Industrial | http://worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-hunter/talents.html |
| 07:38.11 | Industrial | Service Temporarily Unavailable |
| 07:38.13 | Industrial | :| |
| 07:38.22 | Sole | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:38.45 | Sole | plus a >>passive<< 20% attack speed bonus for you and your pet - thats fine |
| 07:38.52 | kergoth | jesus |
| 07:38.55 | Kebinusan | Dont pass this around a whole bunch, but http://mlm.bpa.nu/wow/bctalents.html |
| 07:39.05 | Kebinusan | Ive found it kinda useful |
| 07:39.29 | BoltR | Don't feel bad Sole, none prot warriors never really ever got unshafted |
| 07:39.34 | BoltR | non-prot* |
| 07:40.15 | Sole | heh |
| 07:40.21 | Sole | well Im still looking forward to the rogue stuff |
| 07:40.29 | Sole | just the rogue additions kinda pale in comparison to hunters |
| 07:40.45 | kergoth | meh, the rogue stuff is alright i guess |
| 07:40.46 | BoltR | Yeah, warriors too |
| 07:40.58 | BoltR | It's not that the new changes are BAD |
| 07:41.01 | kergoth | i'm going combat, i find it sad that blade twisting is likely going to be far more useful than the actual 41 point talent in that tree |
| 07:41.06 | BoltR | But in comparison to warlocks/hunters... |
| 07:41.24 | Sole | 41 pt combat talent is shit |
| 07:41.27 | Sole | its like a 2% dps boost |
| 07:41.37 | kergoth | yep |
| 07:41.38 | Sole | theorycrafters have eaten it and spewed it out |
| 07:41.40 | BoltR | Atleast it can't be bettered by a potion :/ |
| 07:41.46 | BoltR | As the 41 arms talent |
| 07:41.54 | BoltR | Might Rage Potion > that |
| 07:41.55 | Sole | rogues = best theorycrafters so we know our shit :P...we dont have much else to do but calculate our damage |
| 07:41.57 | BoltR | Mighty |
| 07:42.02 | Sole | lol |
| 07:42.22 | Sole | Im thinking of rolling shad priest |
| 07:42.33 | BoltR | Now is the time to do it |
| 07:42.45 | BoltR | All your current gear is goign to be replaced by greens |
| 07:42.46 | Sole | i tried a warlock..even though theyre overpowered - its too boring for me |
| 07:42.51 | Sole | ya I know |
| 07:42.52 | kergoth | i'm rolling a blood elf lock once i've got my rogue leveled to 70 |
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| 07:43.00 | kergoth | i think anyway, will see |
| 07:43.04 | Sole | heh |
| 07:43.08 | Sole | warlocks for me |
| 07:43.18 | Sole | dots -> fear or dots -> shad bolt - |
| 07:43.35 | BoltR | I'm thinking Drenai elemental shaman? |
| 07:43.47 | Sole | elemental shaman look kinda interesting |
| 07:43.53 | Sole | a well geared ele shaman is scary |
| 07:44.01 | BoltR | Very |
| 07:44.14 | Sole | an officer in my guild is considered the best shaman on the server...he scares me |
| 07:44.43 | Kebinusan | I hate shaman almost as much as I hate rogues |
| 07:44.47 | Sole | hehe |
| 07:44.52 | evl | I don't hate shamans |
| 07:44.54 | evl | But I do kill themn |
| 07:44.58 | Sole | which class are you? |
| 07:44.58 | evl | I'm a rogue so ;) |
| 07:45.01 | BoltR | That elemental overload or whatever |
| 07:45.02 | Kebinusan | warlock |
| 07:45.05 | BoltR | Will be rediculous |
| 07:45.10 | Sole | oh |
| 07:45.13 | Sole | yea |
| 07:45.13 | evl | They can fiddle around with all their fancy totems and spells |
| 07:45.14 | kergoth | my old main was a shaman, enh/resto.. havent played him in like 8 months though. heh. |
| 07:45.21 | Sole | 5% proc but damn it can do some fun stuff |
| 07:45.26 | evl | but you cannot avoid a solid burst og good old DPS! |
| 07:45.34 | Sole | oh ya |
| 07:45.40 | Sole | I dont mind shaman mostly |
| 07:45.45 | Sole | just really good shaman are tough as hell |
| 07:45.49 | BoltR | It's basicly elemental sword spec |
| 07:46.00 | evl | Same as really good hemo prep rogues are *impossible* to beat if they have cooldowns up |
| 07:46.02 | Sole | yea but on huge dmg |
| 07:46.07 | Kebinusan | Is the damage increase from hemo counted before or after crit |
| 07:46.09 | oxman | I will make a priest, bloody ;) |
| 07:46.12 | Elkano | kergoth, same here :/ but only played him up to 45 |
| 07:46.20 | BoltR | evl, unless you are fighting a hunter |
| 07:46.22 | evl | oxman: actually priests aren't that hard with the expose armor changes |
| 07:46.28 | Sole | yea evl Im one of them :)...well Im not gonna call myself really good because thats cocky but Im a hemo rogue :) |
| 07:46.31 | kergoth | i used to love him.. but then i started doing lots of runs, turned into a healbot and got bored |
| 07:46.33 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:46.36 | evl | BoltR: escape artist + improved sprint ftw |
| 07:46.37 | oxman | which armor change evl ? |
| 07:46.41 | Industrial | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-priest/talents.html?500230013000000000000000000000000000000000050232510051123051551 |
| 07:46.47 | Industrial | lol we need a new melting faces topic |
| 07:46.54 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:47.01 | BoltR | Dunno |
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| 07:47.07 | evl | oxman: expose armor spell is more powerful |
| 07:47.07 | Sole | hmm |
| 07:47.09 | Industrial | thats serious face melting material :o |
| 07:47.15 | evl | oxman: the bane of priests :) |
| 07:47.24 | oxman | what's that ? |
| 07:47.25 | BoltR | The expansion sure isn't making me look forward to playing my warrior |
| 07:47.25 | Elkano | ok, finished loading enGB client, now comes the patch... goodby deDE |
| 07:47.25 | oxman | url please |
| 07:47.29 | BoltR | of course I will |
| 07:47.33 | BoltR | As i'm the MT of my guild |
| 07:47.35 | Industrial | oxman: official website =P |
| 07:47.51 | Industrial | Elkano: yay :D |
| 07:47.57 | BoltR | But it's kind of a 'logging on to raid and sit in IF' kinda deal |
| 07:48.01 | Sole | heh |
| 07:48.04 | Sole | roll a fun alt then |
| 07:48.06 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 07:48.09 | Sole | hai ammo |
| 07:48.13 | BoltR | I'm leveling a warlock right now |
| 07:48.13 | Sole | so whats the concensus |
| 07:48.20 | Sole | alt: shad priest or hunter |
| 07:48.28 | kergoth | Elkano: you gonna give ebb_ace2 an aceoptions table soon? please? :) |
| 07:48.34 | evl | I think the log-into-raid-and-sit-in-IF was Blizzards biggest challenge |
| 07:48.40 | evl | Thus the increase in 5 man |
| 07:48.50 | Sole | yea |
| 07:48.58 | evl | And besides |
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| 07:49.06 | evl | getting 25 people to work |
| 07:49.11 | Sole | is easier than 40 |
| 07:49.13 | evl | is a lot easier tahn getting 40 people to work |
| 07:49.15 | Elkano | well, doesn't make much sense before I actually implemented some other things ^^ |
| 07:49.15 | evl | :) |
| 07:49.24 | evl | And besides! |
| 07:49.25 | Sole | my guild always had those few who didnt care or whatever |
| 07:49.27 | evl | Now we have a new grind, gems! |
| 07:49.27 | BoltR | As they are overpowered, and it's funny |
| 07:49.31 | Elkano | ebb2 isn't meant to be used atm anyways ;) |
| 07:49.31 | evl | Fuck enchanting materials |
| 07:49.32 | Sole | without them we wouldve done better |
| 07:49.35 | evl | We got new mats to griiiindzoooor |
| 07:50.27 | evl | and then we get epic gems! |
| 07:50.31 | evl | and epic enchants |
| 07:50.31 | oxman | I see nothing about "expose amor change" on officiel web site |
| 07:50.32 | BoltR | From what i've heard from guildmates, the 5 man instances aren't THAT great :/ |
| 07:50.32 | BoltR | Well, I guess I log in to farm mats |
| 07:50.34 | BoltR | But that is hardly fun, and it has nothing to do with class |
| 07:50.37 | evl | and you can play forever! |
| 07:50.46 | BoltR | That is no different on a prot warrior than a warlock |
| 07:50.49 | Sole | whoa |
| 07:50.55 | Sole | mages water elemental is now a perma pet |
| 07:51.02 | BoltR | Wow |
| 07:51.04 | Sole | just realised they changed the description |
| 07:51.05 | evl | Cool |
| 07:51.09 | BoltR | I thoguht they didn't want that |
| 07:51.11 | Sole | Summon a Water Elemental to fight for the caster. |
| 07:51.15 | evl | Hope they are as shitty as they were in Warcraft 3 |
| 07:51.20 | Sole | also no cooldown anymore |
| 07:51.25 | Sole | old description: Summon a Water Elemental to fight for the caster for 1 min. |
| 07:51.29 | CIA-17 | 03flyflame * r13513 10BigWigs/BWL/Nefarian.lua: BigWigs: update Nefarian zhCN localization |
| 07:51.31 | FISKER_Q | is there any timer on how long C'Thun stays weakened? |
| 07:51.36 | BoltR | I though they were going along the lines of 'A temporary pet which is powerful' instead of 'A pet who is always there but is bad' |
| 07:51.43 | BoltR | There is in BigWigs |
| 07:51.48 | BoltR | and ctw |
| 07:52.12 | Sole | what do you all recommend? shadow priest or hunter in terms of fun |
| 07:52.12 | kergoth | meh, i need to go through my addons and remove some shit |
| 07:52.18 | kergoth | 202 addons is a bit much |
| 07:52.23 | Sole | :O |
| 07:52.39 | FISKER_Q | i didn't mean if there was an addon timing it :) |
| 07:52.45 | FISKER_Q | just if you know how long it would be weakened |
| 07:52.50 | BoltR | Oh |
| 07:53.08 | BoltR | 30 seconds? I'm not sure :/ |
| 07:53.08 | Iceroth | 45s or so? |
| 07:53.17 | BoltR | Yeah probably closer to 45 |
| 07:53.18 | kergoth | wait nevermind, it isnt 202, its 217 now |
| 07:53.20 | BoltR | one sec ;p |
| 07:53.20 | kergoth | damnit |
| 07:53.46 | [Ammo] | Fisker 45 seconds for weaken |
| 07:53.53 | [Ammo] | exactly 45 actually :p |
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| 07:54.22 | Iceroth | this week our 3rd c'thun kill, took him in 2 weakenings without any dmg flasks :) |
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| 07:55.04 | BoltR | Hmm, I think we got him to 20% in one last time we killed him, but I guess tier 3 helps :/ |
| 07:55.31 | BoltR | You could get him in one |
| 07:55.36 | BoltR | Though I don't knwo why you would |
| 07:55.43 | BoltR | As it woul be a waste of consumables |
| 07:55.46 | FISKER_Q | you only have 3 weakened phases? |
| 07:55.52 | [Ammo] | naah |
| 07:55.54 | [Ammo] | as many as you need |
| 07:55.55 | Iceroth | it's not limited |
| 07:56.06 | [Ammo] | kill 2 stomach tentacles -> he goes weakened |
| 07:56.11 | [Ammo] | after 45 seconds, the 2 tentacles are back |
| 07:56.16 | [Ammo] | -> kill em again |
| 07:56.26 | [Ammo] | in the mean while outside you're swamped with mobs :) |
| 07:56.42 | FISKER_Q | just saw the curse movie and noticed that they got him weakened for the third time |
| 07:56.56 | FISKER_Q | and he was at 2% when he went almost invulnerable :P |
| 07:57.08 | BoltR | Well, it normally takes 3 when you kill him for the first time :) |
| 07:57.18 | [Ammo] | 3 is fine when you kill him the first time indeed |
| 07:57.27 | [Ammo] | after that people get the hang of things and 2 is perfect |
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| 07:57.35 | BoltR | Yeah |
| 07:57.43 | [Ammo] | although we often still use 3 because some people can't burn down stomach tentacles on command :p |
| 07:57.51 | BoltR | I was just saying that it's probably possible to do it in one |
| 07:58.04 | [Ammo] | I've heard of 10% in first weaken |
| 07:58.13 | [Ammo] | so it's certainly doable |
| 07:58.15 | Iceroth | at lvl 70 for sure at least :) |
| 07:58.31 | BoltR | Yeah, i've gotten him to like 20something, without any consumables |
| 07:58.32 | BoltR | So yeah |
| 07:58.53 | BoltR | one thing about that fight though |
| 07:58.58 | FISKER_Q | you've gotten him to 20 yourself? |
| 07:58.59 | FISKER_Q | :D |
| 07:59.04 | BoltR | You could probably do it with 4 healers :/ |
| 07:59.08 | BoltR | lol yes |
| 07:59.10 | BoltR | By myself |
| 07:59.26 | [Ammo] | more healers is better though |
| 07:59.32 | FISKER_Q | Anyone know how much time you use on the eye when you get the hang of it? |
| 07:59.35 | [Ammo] | so the ranged in the stomach has a healer :) |
| 07:59.50 | BoltR | FISKER_Q, it's possible to use all 45 seconds |
| 08:00.05 | BoltR | Depends who is in the stomach and how fast they can burn down the tenticles |
| 08:00.13 | FISKER_Q | i meant the eye :P |
| 08:00.22 | BoltR | Oh |
| 08:00.35 | BoltR | I dunno |
| 08:00.38 | BoltR | Two red beams? :/ |
| 08:00.50 | FISKER_Q | more than 5 minutes? |
| 08:01.01 | BoltR | I think two beams is ~5 minutes? |
| 08:01.05 | [Ammo] | no |
| 08:01.07 | BoltR | I don't watch a clock during that fight |
| 08:01.11 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13514 10oRA2/Participant/MainTank.lua: oRA2: the french are dying properly now |
| 08:01.11 | [Ammo] | first beam is after 45 seconds |
| 08:01.15 | BoltR | Good point |
| 08:01.16 | BoltR | :/ |
| 08:01.18 | FISKER_Q | my ui is a clock |
| 08:01.26 | [Ammo] | next one is 87 seconds after that |
| 08:01.31 | [Ammo] | and 87 after that etc |
| 08:01.38 | BoltR | To tell the truth |
| 08:01.38 | [Ammo] | you usually do 3-4 beams |
| 08:01.42 | [Ammo] | if you do it right |
| 08:01.44 | BoltR | I'm half afk on that fight |
| 08:01.49 | BoltR | As you don't do much as a warrior |
| 08:02.06 | [Ammo] | keep CoR CoE CoS up on him |
| 08:02.08 | [Ammo] | and burn burn burn |
| 08:02.15 | [Ammo] | make sure everyone dps's small tentacles |
| 08:02.22 | [Ammo] | and keeps their people alive |
| 08:02.32 | BoltR | Yep |
| 08:02.35 | [Ammo] | oh and throw abuse at anyone unable to dodge that badass red beam |
| 08:03.03 | [Ammo] | the eye goes all cloudy and black just before he does it, and he does it on the location where the last person got green beamed |
| 08:03.08 | BoltR | I still don't understand that one myself [Ammo] |
| 08:03.15 | BoltR | I can TRY to kill myself on that thing |
| 08:03.19 | BoltR | And I just run right through it |
| 08:03.25 | [Ammo] | you can run through it from one side |
| 08:03.27 | [Ammo] | but not from the other |
| 08:03.35 | BoltR | I swear i've run through one way, and then back |
| 08:03.45 | [Ammo] | maybe it ticks every 2 sconds? |
| 08:03.52 | BoltR | Probably |
| 08:04.21 | BoltR | It's just funny how some peopel die to it, when some people have a hard time trying to die to it on purpose :) |
| 08:04.37 | BoltR | As i'm not the only one that it happens to |
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| 08:04.45 | [Ammo] | all in all C'Thun ain't that hard |
| 08:04.50 | BoltR | Yeah |
| 08:04.54 | [Ammo] | anyway, it's time for my morning coffee meeting |
| 08:04.57 | [Ammo] | be back in 10-15 |
| 08:05.27 | Sole | hmm |
| 08:06.08 | FISKER_Q | http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7428/myuiam4.jpg |
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| 08:06.39 | FISKER_Q | so BoltR |
| 08:06.42 | FISKER_Q | what's your excuse? :P |
| 08:06.49 | Sole | dewdrop: attempt to index local 'handler' (a nil value) |
| 08:07.03 | alkis | howdy |
| 08:07.23 | BoltR | ahah |
| 08:07.45 | BoltR | My excuse is that isn't my UI :) |
| 08:08.01 | FISKER_Q | ah no but everyone has a giant sized clock on their screen :P |
| 08:08.13 | BoltR | heh |
| 08:08.47 | Galencia | ah c'thun |
| 08:08.54 | Galencia | my current guild is learning that right now |
| 08:08.55 | Galencia | much fun |
| 08:09.00 | Galencia | its the first real "idiot test" |
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| 08:09.38 | [1]Kebinusan | FISKER_Q, whast with the giant clock |
| 08:11.26 | BoltR | Galencia, the idiot tests get much worse |
| 08:12.13 | Galencia | oh i know |
| 08:12.36 | Kebinusan | Somehow they always manage to build a better idiot |
| 08:13.26 | Galencia | i mean, i can vaguely understand people getting hit by the red beam that's aiming for them, i mean, i can understand you missing a HUGE GIANT WARNING saying its coming for you |
| 08:13.41 | Galencia | but i really dont get how people either walk INTO the beam, or just stand there and let it own them |
| 08:14.03 | Kebinusan | Galencia, the problem is that some people try to fake out the giant beam, they hesitate, start running run direction, then turn around and start running the other |
| 08:14.08 | Kebinusan | well part of the problem anyway |
| 08:14.41 | Galencia | i dont even think our guys are that smart |
| 08:14.57 | Kebinusan | just start kicking people from the raid who die to dark glare, eventually you'll get a viable raid force |
| 08:15.02 | Iceroth | what i hate about the red beam is that there are always the slowpokes who are not where they should be after the beam ends, they get close to you, get zapped from the green beam and kill you |
| 08:15.15 | Kebinusan | Iceroth, yeah |
| 08:15.35 | Galencia | that too |
| 08:15.45 | Kebinusan | We have some people that just suck at spacial relations, we rotate 180 degrees every dark glare and it never fails that people end up in the wrong spots |
| 08:15.55 | Galencia | we tried that |
| 08:15.58 | Galencia | it went so bad |
| 08:16.07 | Galencia | tonight we are trying 360 instead, i mean, it has to be simpler, right? |
| 08:16.17 | Iceroth | wouldn't count on it :P |
| 08:16.29 | Iceroth | we do the 180 thing |
| 08:16.38 | Iceroth | it's dead simple, when there's red, you haul ass |
| 08:16.41 | Galencia | sometime i wish i could have a way of seeing other people's screens |
| 08:16.45 | Iceroth | no need to think |
| 08:16.53 | Kebinusan | Oh and how about people that dont understand where small eye tentacles pop up and ALWAYS stand on the black area and take damage the dont need to take |
| 08:16.58 | Galencia | then id make a guild rule that anyone who has ever died from linking, need to /ctw scale 200 |
| 08:17.44 | Kebinusan | Galencia, sometimes it happens, an unlucky knockback eye beam chain, but people (mostly hunters and melee) move around alot more than they should |
| 08:18.12 | Galencia | yeah i know, but if that was the case with us, i wouldnt be complaining :) |
| 08:18.14 | FISKER_Q | Kebinusan just me being silly :P |
| 08:18.25 | Kalamadi | Question |
| 08:18.42 | FISKER_Q | btw how is it with the blasted lands buffs? |
| 08:18.42 | Kalamadi | Is there an addon being developed for advanced assignment of raid healing and cleansing groups? |
| 08:18.44 | Galencia | like we were doing the 180 thing.. second beam you stadn in your original positions.. not hard, right? i get to my original position to find 2 people there whoo should not be |
| 08:19.02 | Galencia | Kebinusan: you mean like.. napoleon? |
| 08:19.04 | Kebinusan | Kalamadi, define advanced assignment? |
| 08:19.15 | Galencia | s/Kebinusan/Kalamadi/ |
| 08:19.29 | Kalamadi | What is this "napoleon". |
| 08:19.40 | Kalamadi | Is it a delectable dessert treat? |
| 08:19.43 | Galencia | it's pretty much what you're asking for |
| 08:19.54 | Galencia | it's not Ace2, though.. |
| 08:20.03 | Kalamadi | =( |
| 08:20.09 | FISKER_Q | is there any reason for any warriors wearing tanking gear at all during C'Thun? |
| 08:20.15 | Kebinusan | Kalamadi, HealOrganizer ? |
| 08:20.30 | Kebinusan | FISKER_Q, the giant claws hit kinda hard |
| 08:20.34 | Kalamadi | Kebinusan: I'll look at it. |
| 08:20.44 | BoltR | Yeah |
| 08:20.46 | FISKER_Q | they first spawn after c'thun even right? |
| 08:20.53 | FISKER_Q | event* |
| 08:20.54 | BoltR | FISKER_Q, your prot warriors may as well |
| 08:20.55 | Sole | hmm |
| 08:20.57 | FISKER_Q | aka when the eye is dead :P |
| 08:20.59 | Kebinusan | FISKER_Q, yeah phase 2 |
| 08:21.03 | FISKER_Q | ok |
| 08:21.05 | BoltR | It's good to ahve a tank in the north and in the south |
| 08:21.18 | Sole | ok |
| 08:21.20 | Sole | this is weird |
| 08:21.22 | BoltR | Well, by good I mean you want one |
| 08:21.26 | BoltR | For the tenticles |
| 08:21.26 | Kebinusan | just tell your dps warriors to be ready to go sword and board if they end up tanking |
| 08:21.59 | Sole | I get a dewdrop error if I have the function that opens the dewdrop inside the AceOpts table thats given to dewdrop, however if I register it in a different table for slash commands then dewdrop opens fine |
| 08:22.32 | Sole | so Im thinking Im gonna have to get rid of config slash commands and just keep the execute ones...move the rest of the config into dewdrop |
| 08:22.57 | Iceroth | why would you want to open another dewdrop menu from a dewdrop menu? |
| 08:23.06 | FISKER_Q | oh lol |
| 08:23.09 | FISKER_Q | we got 8 warriors today |
| 08:23.09 | FISKER_Q | :I |
| 08:23.43 | Sole | im not opening another dewdrop menu from a dewdrop menu |
| 08:23.43 | FISKER_Q | hope we have enough dps for twins |
| 08:23.54 | Sole | im trying to open a dewdrop menu from an aceoptions table |
| 08:24.01 | FISKER_Q | The first time we took them we had 30ish seconds left for enrage |
| 08:24.01 | FISKER_Q | :P |
| 08:24.22 | Kebinusan | Twin emps is so boring as a caster |
| 08:24.23 | Iceroth | have your feral druids dps ;) |
| 08:24.27 | Iceroth | always does the trick |
| 08:24.38 | Sole | just dewdrop gives an error if the command that opens the dewdrop is in the AceOpts table |
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| 08:24.44 | FISKER_Q | nah |
| 08:24.46 | Kebinusan | you can also have all your casters do no more than ~3k damage to the caster twin every teleport |
| 08:24.51 | BoltR | FISKER_Q, we do it with 8 warriors |
| 08:25.00 | BoltR | One per small eye tenticle ;) |
| 08:25.03 | BoltR | Or we used to |
| 08:25.08 | Sole | I think I have a solution though |
| 08:25.14 | BoltR | Though, my guild has alot of DPS warriors |
| 08:25.19 | FISKER_Q | Our dps just stops all dps when some druid shifts over in catform or bearform |
| 08:25.21 | FISKER_Q | sooooo cuuuute |
| 08:25.24 | Kalamadi | So.... How does HealOrganizer work? |
| 08:25.35 | evl | !notes Mendeleev |
| 08:25.35 | SVNBot | Mendeleev Notes: Mendeleev shows information in the tooltip based on PeriodicTable || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Mendeleev |
| 08:25.37 | Kalamadi | Nevermind! |
| 08:25.44 | Kebinusan | Kalamadi, dunno never used it |
| 08:25.51 | FISKER_Q | infact we just wipe on nefarian on the druid class call cause we're all busy patting the druids |
| 08:26.08 | Iceroth | haha :p |
| 08:26.27 | Kebinusan | you gotta have all your drudis bust out /dance on that class call |
| 08:26.35 | Sole | we wiped on nef back in christmas because we kept throwing snowballs at each other..including the main tank |
| 08:26.39 | Kalamadi | HealOrganizer would be great if it was more versatile... |
| 08:26.47 | Kebinusan | sole, yeah we do that on frogger slimes |
| 08:26.49 | FISKER_Q | we had 4 druids once spinning around on top of a suppression device |
| 08:26.51 | FISKER_Q | while dancing |
| 08:26.53 | FISKER_Q | in bearform |
| 08:27.01 | BoltR | Ahah, FISKER_Q our biggest problem is the mage call |
| 08:27.04 | Sole | lawl |
| 08:27.14 | Iceroth | sheeped mt is not good |
| 08:27.17 | BoltR | Yeah |
| 08:27.30 | Kebinusan | spam dispel on mt |
| 08:27.38 | BoltR | You can still get unlucky |
| 08:27.41 | BoltR | with a shadow flame |
| 08:27.41 | Iceroth | dispel range = fear range |
| 08:27.45 | FISKER_Q | I just like it that our warlocks for some reason believe they're not supposed to get feared |
| 08:27.53 | Kebinusan | fear ward 4tw :-) |
| 08:27.53 | FISKER_Q | especially not when they're the most aggroprone class in the game |
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| 08:28.39 | Kebinusan | Nef is usually a lazy bitch and just teleports me to him if I steal aggro |
| 08:28.46 | FISKER_Q | Once tried where some idiot warlock wiped 75% of the raid or something in one blow |
| 08:28.54 | FISKER_Q | Then i tanked him from 10% as the only melee left |
| 08:28.57 | FISKER_Q | and we wiped at 1% :/ |
| 08:28.57 | Kebinusan | Its really bad for us when we do BWL though because no one wears their ony cloaks anymore |
| 08:29.13 | Kebinusan | Everyone just hides at nef phase 2 |
| 08:29.28 | evl | !NOtes antagonist |
| 08:29.41 | Kebinusan | mmm this torrent is being speedy |
| 08:30.25 | Kebinusan | At this rate, only 22 hours left |
| 08:30.30 | evl | So what's the difference between Antagonist and HostelBar? |
| 08:30.41 | Kebinusan | Antagonist is enemy only |
| 08:30.43 | Elkano | Kebinusan, what are you downing? |
| 08:30.47 | oxman | antagonist work ^^ |
| 08:30.48 | Kebinusan | hostel bar is a kitchen sink |
| 08:30.56 | Kebinusan | Elkano, Bleach 1-94 |
| 08:31.00 | Elkano | ah :) |
| 08:31.02 | evl | I need stun watch + enemy castbar :) |
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| 08:31.19 | Elkano | I quit Bleach when Luna stopped subbing :( |
| 08:31.24 | BoltR | I tanked him with like 7 people. 2 healers, 4 mages, and me |
| 08:31.30 | BoltR | At like 15 percent |
| 08:31.32 | kergoth | evl: then use Chronometer + Antagonist |
| 08:31.36 | Kebinusan | Elkano, I started watching it on youtube after seeing an ep on adult swim, but I couldnt stand the quality |
| 08:31.42 | BoltR | And then I got grubbed :( |
| 08:31.59 | Elkano | Chronometer is giving me errors on my mage :/ |
| 08:32.18 | Kebinusan | Chronometer works peachy for my lock |
| 08:32.51 | Sole | yay I got dewdrop working for Antagonist |
| 08:32.57 | Sole | took some sneaky shit but it works |
| 08:33.53 | Kebinusan | hm, I should convert this armormeter mod to a fubar plugin or something and post it or something, Im sure some people would like it |
| 08:34.26 | Kebinusan | my list of things I need to try and account for keeps growing though |
| 08:34.55 | BoltR | I have to say the biggest piss off of TBC from a warrior point of view |
| 08:35.00 | BoltR | Where is our friggen auto shoot button? |
| 08:35.16 | BoltR | You gave casters auto wand; is it too overpowered for a warrior? |
| 08:35.22 | Kebinusan | It doesnt account for Gift of Arthas, Hemo, +Damage to weapon, etc |
| 08:35.28 | Kebinusan | BoltR, warriors shouldnt be shooting |
| 08:35.33 | Kebinusan | they should be stabbing |
| 08:35.44 | BoltR | Unless it' s a fight like C'Thun |
| 08:36.55 | Kebinusan | Alot of people in my guild are really upset about the mod changes in bc |
| 08:36.58 | Elkano | casters are ranged, warriors aren't |
| 08:37.02 | BoltR | or Shazzarah |
| 08:37.12 | BoltR | Or geddon |
| 08:37.17 | Elkano | rogues don't have auto-shoot, too |
| 08:37.25 | BoltR | Well, then Rogues are getting screwed too! |
| 08:37.39 | Kebinusan | boltr, dedicated decursers + melee = win on shazz |
| 08:37.51 | Kebinusan | he goes down sooo much faster |
| 08:37.51 | Elkano | druids, palas and shamis don't have either ;) |
| 08:38.24 | BoltR | Meh |
| 08:39.14 | Greywind | I have come to grips with the api changes now, I just wish i could talk my friends into staying. My best friend has already canceled his account :( |
| 08:39.32 | Greywind | and my brother is thinking of doing it also |
| 08:40.13 | BoltR | What the... apparently some horde guild I have never heard of is raiding Raven Hill |
| 08:40.15 | Kebinusan | Greywind, they really arent as sweeping as alot of people think |
| 08:40.23 | Iceroth | i just wish druids have more active role in tbc... now in raids all i need is movement buttons and then 2 buttons for decursing and healing |
| 08:40.23 | Greywind | I know |
| 08:40.39 | BoltR | Iceroth, isn't that what they are now? :/ |
| 08:40.40 | Kebinusan | Ive been trying to explain it to guildmates all week, the healers are real pissed |
| 08:40.47 | Greywind | I keep trying to tell them it will be fine |
| 08:40.53 | Kebinusan | It sounds like alot of healers are either going to quit or re-roll dps classes |
| 08:41.15 | Iceroth | BoltR, erm? |
| 08:41.21 | Kebinusan | but its like smaller raid sizes + just highlighting of raid frames like praid does now you will still be able to get alot of good information |
| 08:41.25 | Greywind | my brother is just rerolling a mage now, im gonna miss his priest in pvp on my warrior :( |
| 08:41.26 | Galencia | a bit dramatic really |
| 08:41.29 | BoltR | None of my guilds healers are that mad, they don't use click casting mods :/ |
| 08:41.33 | Iceroth | i mean now i need to smash only 2 buttons entire raid, i hope there's more to do in tbc |
| 08:41.39 | BoltR | Ahh |
| 08:41.40 | Galencia | if you really look at the changes in depth, stuff will probably be a bit easier |
| 08:41.43 | Kalamadi | Kebinusan, we still have to look at all those damn bars |
| 08:41.54 | BoltR | I thoguht you said that they were reducing you to hitting two buttons |
| 08:41.56 | Greywind | thats what im mad about |
| 08:42.02 | BoltR | If it makes you feel any better |
| 08:42.06 | BoltR | I only hit one button during raiding |
| 08:42.08 | Kebinusan | meh, you could just 1 button heal if you were lazy in raids |
| 08:42.15 | BoltR | Depending on the fight I don't need to move :/ |
| 08:42.23 | Greywind | I hate having raid frames cause i always am the designated spot healer in my guild |
| 08:42.28 | Kebinusan | .. /target mob, /assist mob, /heal blah |
| 08:42.53 | Iceroth | Kebinusan, maia's squishy does too good job at the target selection |
| 08:42.53 | FISKER_Q | hmm |
| 08:42.56 | Kebinusan | or just spam the target emergency monitor (1) and heal |
| 08:43.00 | FISKER_Q | mendelev is pretty cool |
| 08:43.05 | FISKER_Q | where does it get droprates from? |
| 08:43.05 | Iceroth | i have amacro that targets p1 unit and then casts ht4 to it |
| 08:43.28 | Kebinusan | Iceroth, yeah we assign 1-2 paladins to em healing on alot of fights like thaddius |
| 08:43.34 | Kalamadi | Consider the ramifications for organized PVP |
| 08:43.39 | Galencia | the only thing thats changing is you'll have to think for yourself a bit more, and have more things displaying on your screen |
| 08:43.42 | BoltR | Iceroth, that is exactly what blizzard wanted to get rid of with the API changes |
| 08:43.51 | Iceroth | yea i know |
| 08:43.52 | Kebinusan | Im actually quite happy though and mostly for pvp |
| 08:44.09 | Kebinusan | so many warriors use macro's for if rage is x then do y else do z kinda crap |
| 08:44.10 | Kalamadi | I dread the PVP changes. All current BGs will be impossible to act in a support role |
| 08:44.15 | Iceroth | but it doesn't change the fact that healing is boring as hell and i don't like it at all |
| 08:44.18 | Galencia | setting up your ui per fight will be important |
| 08:44.22 | Kebinusan | one guy in our guild just basically spammed one button to play his warrior |
| 08:44.47 | Iceroth | so nerfing my addons isn't going to make me a better or happier healer |
| 08:44.51 | BoltR | Kebinusan, I just have a macro which has /cast revenge /cast shield slam /cast sunder armor in it |
| 08:44.59 | BoltR | And global cooldown takes care of the rest :/ |
| 08:45.09 | BoltR | and then I hit heoric strike if my raid is ~50 :/ |
| 08:45.32 | Kalamadi | Iceroth, I enjoyed the intelligent display of squishy. I modified mine to only display select classes, so I had a keep display of the three tanking warriors |
| 08:45.35 | Galencia | Iceroth: well which addons are you particularly upset about loosing? |
| 08:45.39 | Galencia | losing* |
| 08:45.57 | Sole | can anyone tell me wha the "unexpected symbol" is in this line? header = {name = ["Antagonist"], type = "header", order = 1}, |
| 08:45.59 | Kebinusan | The emergency monitor thing is probably what Im going to miss the most |
| 08:46.06 | Sole | ahh fuck I just saw it |
| 08:46.08 | Kalamadi | Iceroth, I still chose which warrior to heal. I don't see what anyone is gaining from losing interface simplicity |
| 08:46.17 | Galencia | Kebinusan: you arent going to lose your emergency monitor |
| 08:46.19 | Sole | forgot the L in front of antagonist |
| 08:46.20 | BoltR | Emergency Monitors will still work |
| 08:46.20 | Kebinusan | I dont see why they had to take away click targeting, just getting rid of click casting would be fine |
| 08:46.26 | BoltR | You just won't be able to click on it |
| 08:46.28 | Galencia | Kebinusan: they arent |
| 08:46.31 | Galencia | BoltR: you will. |
| 08:46.33 | Iceroth | i'm more uppset at the fact that i rolled a shapeshifter class who's description got changed at some point to "primary healer" but squishy and detox are the addons that made my life tolerable |
| 08:46.44 | BoltR | You can't target anymore Galencia |
| 08:46.57 | Galencia | BoltR: you can, providing the frames are set up before hand and dont alter in appearence |
| 08:47.03 | BoltR | Ah |
| 08:47.05 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:47.05 | Kalamadi | I'm upset that I'll have to find a new target to heal every second and a half out of a list of 25-40 people |
| 08:47.09 | [Ammo] | but that would mean setting up 40 frames |
| 08:47.14 | [Ammo] | but can you still move those frames? |
| 08:47.16 | [Ammo] | in combat |
| 08:47.16 | Galencia | BoltR: your emergency monitor, basically turns into perfectraid |
| 08:47.23 | Galencia | [Ammo]: you can yourself, your addon cannot |
| 08:47.36 | [Ammo] | so you don't have an emergency monitor |
| 08:47.39 | [Ammo] | you have perfectraid |
| 08:47.42 | Galencia | yeah. |
| 08:47.42 | Galencia | but |
| 08:47.45 | Iceroth | erm.. how is any addon going to be able to show target / tot frames? |
| 08:47.46 | Kebinusan | [Ammo], yeah exactly |
| 08:47.49 | Galencia | it means you need to think about it a bit more |
| 08:47.56 | Galencia | and organise the targets you are interested in |
| 08:47.57 | Galencia | beforehand |
| 08:47.59 | Kebinusan | the way praid does highlighting for debuffs is what I see happening in BC |
| 08:48.18 | [Ammo] | setting up the clickcasting beforehand will work just fine |
| 08:48.20 | Galencia | bear in mind you have 25 bars not 40, so things are a bit easier by default |
| 08:48.27 | Kalamadi | Galencia: We're still lacking a perfect raid healing/cleansing group organizer for raid content :/ |
| 08:48.55 | Galencia | Kalamadi: not sure what you mean by that |
| 08:49.25 | Kalamadi | Galencia: I.e. automation of healing assignments to reduce the number of bars any one healer has to look at |
| 08:49.32 | Kalamadi | In my opinion, raid spot healing is dead |
| 08:49.41 | Greywind | aye |
| 08:50.02 | Greywind | gonna have to have dedicated healers everything now :( |
| 08:50.04 | BoltR | People do that without mods :/ |
| 08:50.07 | Galencia | Kalamadi: is that such a bad thing? why automate it, work out your own assignments |
| 08:50.15 | Greywind | i see lots of rogues dying |
| 08:50.17 | Kebinusan | Yeah, like I said I just wish that they had allowed targeting but not click casting |
| 08:50.20 | BoltR | It just requires alot of attention |
| 08:50.41 | Greywind | yeah allowing targeting would be nice, i can heal myself |
| 08:50.46 | Galencia | you're just giong to have to use a "better" ui, thats all |
| 08:51.13 | Kalamadi | Though I can see a second underlying reason for these changes |
| 08:51.19 | Galencia | personally, i think its going to encourage a lot more creative thinking with regards to raiding uids |
| 08:51.22 | Galencia | uis* |
| 08:51.32 | Kalamadi | Have many of you seen the screenshots for the new PVP honor menu? |
| 08:51.41 | Galencia | you can for example have a combat ui and a non combat ui |
| 08:51.42 | Greywind | I think its definately going to force people to stop being lazy |
| 08:51.49 | Galencia | Greywind: that can only be a good thing |
| 08:51.53 | Kalamadi | Something like 3vs3, 4vs4, 5vs5 combat - lots of squad combat |
| 08:52.25 | Greywind | oh i know it will be a good thing, make the lazy healers pick up the slack now |
| 08:52.28 | Iceroth | i don't really see how it's a good thing to put more strain to healers versus hunters for example, "oh i'm just shooting me bow here" |
| 08:52.38 | Kalamadi | However, if you're in PVE, if some healer or decurser dies in some other group, you won't know how to pick up the slack |
| 08:53.11 | BoltR | Kalamadi, you realise there is guilds who do that now right? :/ |
| 08:53.11 | Greywind | I top the healing charts all the time not because im good but because I watch who needs healing and don't just stand there doing nothing like a lot of healers in my guild do |
| 08:53.21 | Galencia | Iceroth: is that just because you resent healing, aor are actually hard done by the changes? :) |
| 08:53.21 | BoltR | Who don't rely on mods to stuff for them? |
| 08:53.38 | Kalamadi | BoltR: There are some guilds who do that. However, those who don't won't exactly adapt well to a new style |
| 08:53.50 | Sole | wow |
| 08:53.54 | Sole | I heart Dewdrop |
| 08:53.59 | Greywind | I dont now, I set up click to stop using the healing parts |
| 08:54.03 | Sole | it makes config guis so much easier |
| 08:54.11 | BoltR | Well, they are just goign to have to learn aren't they? |
| 08:54.25 | Galencia | overall i think it will make everyone better raiders |
| 08:54.31 | Galencia | and if you really dont like raiding, why do it? :) |
| 08:54.33 | Greywind | I think so too |
| 08:54.43 | Iceroth | Galencia, erm i'm not following.. generally healers (and tanks) have much more active role in raiding that dps |
| 08:54.53 | Greywind | ok I'm gonna go watch some TV, cya all later |
| 08:54.53 | Iceroth | and now the changes are going to make healers work even more |
| 08:55.26 | Kalamadi | It makes raiding harder for healers. More intensive for healers. DPS still and always had a two-button way of fighting, and all classes had the same positioning restrictions |
| 08:55.37 | Galencia | Iceroth: yes and no, i think it's going to take some work away by having to task-focus |
| 08:55.43 | Galencia | instead of "cover everything" |
| 08:56.17 | Kalamadi | Now healers are forced to focus on bars when they could have potentially paid attention to positioning. |
| 08:56.17 | Iceroth | it's still going to be "take care of group 1, watch over g2 too if their healer dies" |
| 08:56.42 | Groggles | I don't think people realize that current raid encounters are tuned to be done by raids with access to mods such as decursive/detox, if they are removing the ability of the playerbase to cure stuff with one button then they will surely tune the new raid content to have a reasonable amount of decursing etc. and as for two-button dpsing, I'm sure that they are working to make dps classes more involved in 25man raid content |
| 08:56.53 | Galencia | like i said, with the next generation of uis in tbc, you will probably be a lot better off |
| 08:57.07 | FISKER_Q | stupid alliance >:( |
| 08:57.08 | Groggles | the whole point of reducing the raid size was to make people more involved on an individual level |
| 08:57.14 | Galencia | Groggles: not really, figths like lucifrom existed before decursive |
| 08:57.26 | [Ammo] | they will not make people more involved |
| 08:57.32 | [Ammo] | look at ZG |
| 08:57.33 | Galencia | Groggles: the encounters they introduced to combat decursive are those like noth, where if you dont decurse withing 8 seconds the raid explodes |
| 08:57.34 | FISKER_Q | "Hey look a cute alliance warrior on a zep" |
| 08:57.41 | [Ammo] | TBC is ZG + 5 |
| 08:57.41 | Iceroth | was just gonna say the same [Ammo] |
| 08:57.54 | Groggles | the stuff in naxx is clearly tuned for decursive |
| 08:57.57 | FISKER_Q | "This zep is going to pvp contest area, o shiii.... You Die." |
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| 08:58.35 | Kalamadi | Groggles: Blizzard creating content around user-made addons is Blizzard's decision. The playerbase shouldn't be forced to take the hit for something Blizzard decided to do. |
| 08:58.43 | Groggles | blizzard knows far more about what a raid is capable of now then they did when they created lucifron |
| 08:59.04 | Groggles | the quality of Naxxramas shows that very clearly |
| 08:59.28 | Kalamadi | How? It's the same beat-the-clock decursing which was present at Lucifron. |
| 08:59.44 | Kalamadi | The difficulty is only ramped up via the direness of NOT decursing |
| 08:59.45 | [Ammo] | no it's not the same |
| 08:59.48 | BoltR | It's not the same |
| 08:59.53 | [Ammo] | lucifron not decursing -> some damage |
| 08:59.54 | BoltR | Your raid didn't flat out die |
| 08:59.56 | Groggles | overall I mean, and no, noth is not the same as luci |
| 09:00.02 | Kalamadi | See my second statement |
| 09:00.04 | [Ammo] | if 1 person is not decursed at noth -> wipe |
| 09:00.07 | BoltR | In Noth, you miss one curse, you wipe |
| 09:00.17 | Groggles | on noth you wipe instantly if you don't decurse every single person within the curse duration |
| 09:00.36 | BoltR | Last time I went to Luci with some other guild, I was never decursed |
| 09:00.51 | Kalamadi | Again. MC is easier than Naxx. Of course failing to decurse would have worse consequences |
| 09:00.52 | Galencia | so basically decursing encounters arent disappearing |
| 09:00.58 | Galencia | they are just being reduced in intensity |
| 09:01.09 | Galencia | Kalamadi: thats not the reason though.. the reason is mods like decursive |
| 09:01.18 | Galencia | they *have* to put more focus on negative effects of not decursing |
| 09:01.19 | BoltR | That being said |
| 09:01.22 | Kalamadi | Galencia: Prove it, though. |
| 09:01.31 | Galencia | i dont have to, they admitted it theirself |
| 09:01.34 | BoltR | On noth one could have more of the raid avoid getting cursed |
| 09:01.36 | Galencia | or themselves. |
| 09:02.02 | Groggles | blizzard's main goal in a high end raid dungeon is to create challenging content that is why they chose to create and make content more difficult based on what user-made addons can do |
| 09:02.23 | [Ammo] | well I expect a lot of healers hanging up their cloaks |
| 09:02.25 | Kalamadi | Groggles: If they did that, why are they disabling the addons now? |
| 09:02.43 | Kalamadi | "Oh, we made a lot of content around these addons... Now let's just diable them." |
| 09:02.47 | Kalamadi | It doesn't make sense. |
| 09:02.59 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13515 10Antagonist/ (5 files): |
| 09:02.59 | CIA-17 | Antagonist |
| 09:02.59 | CIA-17 | - Added a dewdrop menu /ant config to access |
| 09:02.59 | CIA-17 | - Added X-RelSite-Curse to toc |
| 09:02.59 | CIA-17 | - Moved AceOptions table to from Antagonist.lua to Antagonist-Dewdrop.lua |
| 09:02.59 | CIA-17 | - Added ["Antagonist"] to locale |
| 09:03.01 | CIA-17 | - Renamed Antagonist-Dewdrop.lua to Antagonist-Options.lua |
| 09:03.03 | Elkano | I wouldn't wonder if Blizzard would ajust the existing 40raid dungeons with TBC to cope for the loss of decursive |
| 09:03.05 | Groggles | they have stated for a long time that they did not want addons like decursive to function, its no big surprise |
| 09:03.15 | Sole | yea |
| 09:03.18 | BoltR | You could do the encounteres without decursive |
| 09:03.21 | Groggles | its very old news... |
| 09:03.23 | Sole | theyve been trying to remove it for a while now |
| 09:03.30 | Galencia | Elkano: that much i doubt |
| 09:03.39 | Kalamadi | If you could do the encounters without Decursive, why change that? |
| 09:03.50 | Sole | anyway I think blizz would be smart enough to design the BC raid bosses to not be so centered around debuffs |
| 09:03.53 | BoltR | What? |
| 09:03.53 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Antagonist |
| 09:04.09 | BoltR | Because they want people to play the game rather than have the game play itself? |
| 09:04.13 | Groggles | noth would be incredibly difficult and nearly impossible without decursive |
| 09:04.23 | BoltR | Naw it wouldn't |
| 09:04.27 | BoltR | Harder yes, not impossible |
| 09:04.40 | Kalamadi | Groggles: Say you had one decurser per group. That's 5 decurses in eight seconds |
| 09:04.44 | Groggles | if you had less then an ideal number of decursers it would be damn hard |
| 09:04.47 | Kalamadi | You have .5 seconds to spare. Go! Good luck. |
| 09:05.06 | BoltR | Kalamadi, you also have time to click in between |
| 09:05.15 | Kalamadi | I'm being dramatic. |
| 09:05.19 | BoltR | It's not like your game locks up between each decurse :/ |
| 09:05.30 | [DiE]Celeb | andd it does'nt hit 40 ppl :) |
| 09:05.33 | BoltR | Also all 40 people don't get it |
| 09:05.33 | Kalamadi | Try getting a spell off every 1.5s exactly |
| 09:05.51 | BoltR | Kalamadi, hit f1 |
| 09:05.51 | [Ammo] | it's called spamming p |
| 09:05.55 | BoltR | mash decurse |
| 09:05.58 | BoltR | as soon as it goes off |
| 09:06.01 | BoltR | hit f2 |
| 09:06.03 | BoltR | mash decurse |
| 09:06.05 | BoltR | Not that hard |
| 09:06.06 | Groggles | you have to click and cast and if one group happened to get 4-5 curses in it then you are pretty much screwed because you have < 1sec spare time |
| 09:06.10 | Kalamadi | BoltR: Ever heard of latency? |
| 09:06.22 | BoltR | Decursive has latency too |
| 09:06.29 | BoltR | It's nto some magic no latency fix |
| 09:06.32 | Kalamadi | Your whole damn game is latency |
| 09:06.34 | [Ammo] | it's perfectly possible to do it without decursive |
| 09:06.45 | BoltR | There is a timer on the curse |
| 09:06.52 | BoltR | You can have people back out for a ilttle |
| 09:06.52 | [Ammo] | but it requires the whole bloody raid to be on their toes |
| 09:06.57 | BoltR | So only 15 or so people get cursed |
| 09:06.59 | BoltR | Not that hard |
| 09:07.02 | Sole | I think thats what blizz wants Ammo |
| 09:07.13 | Kalamadi | Stress != fun |
| 09:07.20 | [Ammo] | that's why I think it's good that raids are reduced to 25 |
| 09:07.21 | BoltR | Then you must hate Naxx |
| 09:07.27 | BoltR | If you are in it :/ |
| 09:07.29 | [Ammo] | so I can leave 15 slackers behind |
| 09:07.29 | Kalamadi | Never been there. |
| 09:07.33 | BoltR | Well then |
| 09:07.36 | BoltR | That explains some |
| 09:07.36 | [Ammo] | Naxx is a bottle of stress :) |
| 09:07.43 | BoltR | Naxx is one giant ball of stress |
| 09:07.46 | [Ammo] | try doing thaddius with 1 fucktard in the raid :) |
| 09:07.51 | BoltR | You can do it |
| 09:08.07 | [Ammo] | or thaddius with 1 person that disconnects every 15 mins at random |
| 09:08.22 | BoltR | Eh, you can do it |
| 09:08.26 | [Ammo] | yeah you can |
| 09:08.28 | [Ammo] | but it |
| 09:08.31 | [Ammo] | but it's stressful |
| 09:08.46 | [Ammo] | see that person disconnect, and hope they get back in time for the next polarity or hope their debuffdoesn't change |
| 09:08.50 | Kalamadi | See, things are fun when you have some semblance of control |
| 09:09.05 | [Ammo] | or Maexxna's random crushing blows yay |
| 09:09.12 | BoltR | If it does you can just let them die, and heal up :) |
| 09:09.15 | Galencia | ah i love Maexxna's randomness |
| 09:09.30 | BoltR | Kalamadi, you don't have control in Naxx |
| 09:09.33 | Galencia | its like, IN YOUR FACE NO LOOT FOR YOU! |
| 09:09.40 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 09:09.48 | Kalamadi | BoltR: And, thus, Naxx isn't fun. I don't see your point. |
| 09:09.49 | [Ammo] | or people get thrown up the wall in unhealable positions |
| 09:09.55 | Galencia | that still happens? |
| 09:09.57 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 09:10.02 | Galencia | havent been in naxx in a while :( |
| 09:10.08 | BoltR | Or stage 1 the guy stays aggroed on your tank after he gets punted |
| 09:10.13 | Groggles | I love Naxx |
| 09:10.15 | BoltR | and runs across |
| 09:10.20 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 09:10.20 | BoltR | Teslaing the whole raid |
| 09:10.47 | [Ammo] | which reminds me, time to check our DKP and see how they did on loatheb last night |
| 09:11.24 | [Ammo] | hmm they didn't go to loatheb |
| 09:11.26 | [Ammo] | bleh |
| 09:12.02 | BoltR | heh, last night one of my guild leaders had a melt down on loatheb, so we stopped raiding |
| 09:12.24 | Groggles | loatheb is the worst boss in that place imo |
| 09:12.25 | DarkImakuni | whats a good DKP mod to use? |
| 09:12.40 | BoltR | Apparently he was angry that we couldn't get him below 60% before the first doom dot was applied |
| 09:12.45 | BoltR | When we had 15 healers |
| 09:12.54 | BoltR | And without using consumables |
| 09:13.20 | Groggles | if you can get him to 65% before impending doom without consumables, you can kill him |
| 09:13.22 | BoltR | Even though 60% at the first doom dot is enough DPS to kill him :/ |
| 09:13.25 | BoltR | I know that Groggles |
| 09:13.35 | BoltR | We were getting ~67% |
| 09:14.14 | BoltR | We were going to drop 3 healers and get the DPS people who couldn't be there for the night and kill him tongiht |
| 09:14.26 | BoltR | But the holiday kinda screwed that |
| 09:14.31 | Groggles | we always get world buffs to guarantee a one shot just because the consumables are so grief |
| 09:14.37 | BoltR | Yeha |
| 09:14.41 | BoltR | Dark Moon Faire is up too ;) |
| 09:14.50 | Groggles | yeah, thats good stuff |
| 09:14.58 | Kalamadi | Where's a good place to pick up Dreamfoil? I tried the plaguelands and Un'Goro, but the nodes are few and weak :/ |
| 09:15.02 | Groggles | I hate that fight |
| 09:15.06 | BoltR | Felwood |
| 09:15.50 | BoltR | or Azshara |
| 09:15.50 | BoltR | I'm not a big fan either |
| 09:15.50 | Kalamadi | Okay, thanks |
| 09:15.50 | BoltR | I just want to get it over with |
| 09:15.51 | BoltR | Move on to the horsemen |
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| 09:16.33 | Groggles | the fight is so simple, they just force you to use 2-3 shadow prot pots... using shadow pots would be fine if they had put any thought into the components of shadow pots as opposed to sticking something with the word shadow in it with a dreamfoil and vial |
| 09:16.50 | BoltR | Ahah |
| 09:16.59 | BoltR | "Graves are shadowy" |
| 09:17.21 | Groggles | why are shadow pots so much harder to make than any other prot pot... |
| 09:17.22 | kovi | i actually don't mind farming shadow prot pots |
| 09:17.24 | Groggles | whats the point |
| 09:17.30 | kovi | i have my herb hunter parked in sm |
| 09:17.40 | kovi | takes 15min to reset the instance 5 times |
| 09:17.43 | BoltR | And what makes it worse; every guild o nteh server automatically realises that you are doing Loatheb and you need the pots |
| 09:17.46 | BoltR | So they all farm the stuff |
| 09:17.53 | kovi | an you're almost guaranteed a stack of fadeleaf and gravemoss |
| 09:18.03 | BoltR | Yeah SM is the best place for it |
| 09:18.21 | BoltR | Still doesn't mean the fight isn't a pain |
| 09:18.25 | kovi | farming fadeleaf or gravemoss outside of instances = -_-_-_- |
| 09:18.28 | kovi | yeah |
| 09:18.46 | kovi | my guild wiped yesterday on a full buffed try because one healer fucked up |
| 09:18.51 | kovi | they weren't happy |
| 09:18.53 | kovi | -_- |
| 09:19.21 | axxo | gkick! |
| 09:19.22 | Groggles | ouch : / |
| 09:19.41 | Groggles | luckily we haven't wiped on a buff run... yet... |
| 09:19.51 | axxo | gz |
| 09:19.54 | axxo | you just jinxed it |
| 09:19.57 | Groggles | lol |
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| 09:23.29 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13516 10BigWigs/AQ20/Ossirian.lua: BigWigs: Ossirian: Fix several issues. |
| 09:24.23 | alkis | ammo: ping |
| 09:27.36 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13517 10Antagonist/Antagonist-locale.lua: |
| 09:27.36 | CIA-17 | Antagonist : |
| 09:27.36 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:28.15 | vhaarr | Sole: Haha, good job :) |
| 09:28.31 | vhaarr | Sole: what editor do you use? |
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| 09:34.57 | ckknight_ | I use Notepad2 |
| 09:35.37 | Kalamadi | I use editor^2 |
| 09:35.41 | Kalamadi | For windows, at least |
| 09:35.59 | axxo | eclipse or vim, only options |
| 09:35.59 | Kalamadi | Comes with explorer^2, which is a good little explorer replacement |
| 09:36.17 | [Ammo] | alkis: ? |
| 09:36.19 | Kalamadi | What about scite? |
| 09:36.48 | vhaarr | poor fenlis has done the same thing 2 times now, Sole broke it twice |
| 09:37.40 | alkis | i want to open a tooltip, sort of like bigwigs version query does it |
| 09:37.41 | Kalamadi | :O |
| 09:37.41 | Elkano | <- SciTe / Editpad |
| 09:37.49 | Kalamadi | Scite has LUA highlighting? Awesome |
| 09:37.57 | Kalamadi | I never started the program until just now XD |
| 09:38.00 | alkis | but i want that to happen when i click my fubar plugin |
| 09:38.14 | Elkano | Kalamadi -> http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4989 |
| 09:38.19 | alkis | i looked at the bigwigs code, but can't figure it out :-/ |
| 09:38.29 | [Ammo] | alkis: I didn't code that, so I can't help you :) |
| 09:38.52 | Sole | I use Tinypad |
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| 09:38.56 | alkis | btw, thanks for bigwigs. awesome addon :-) |
| 09:39.07 | Kalamadi | Elkano: Thanks |
| 09:39.11 | Elkano | np :) |
| 09:39.14 | Sole | lol I use Editplus 2 |
| 09:39.17 | [Ammo] | alkis: ask vhaarr he made the versionquery tooltip I think |
| 09:39.23 | [Ammo] | otherwise read the code :) |
| 09:39.26 | vhaarr | yes |
| 09:39.29 | alkis | i read the code.. |
| 09:39.34 | vhaarr | Or hm. |
| 09:39.39 | alkis | but it uses modules which i don't |
| 09:39.43 | vhaarr | I think shyva made it initially. |
| 09:39.51 | alkis | so i am not sure what is going on there :-/ |
| 09:39.55 | vhaarr | I am. |
| 09:39.56 | [Ammo] | well for the tablet opening it should just work fine |
| 09:40.07 | [Ammo] | check the Options.lua and the onclick for the plugin |
| 09:40.17 | [Ammo] | that's where you should do whatever the version query does when you execute a version query |
| 09:40.18 | Funkeh` | morning all :) |
| 09:40.28 | [Ammo] | if that makes sense :) |
| 09:41.08 | alkis | no the version query is in Version.lua |
| 09:41.14 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 09:41.22 | alkis | and i see OnTooltipUpdate() there |
| 09:41.24 | [Ammo] | but the onclick for the fuplugin is in Options.lua |
| 09:42.02 | [Ammo] | function BigWigsOptions:OnClick() |
| 09:42.03 | alkis | hrmf... |
| 09:42.10 | [Ammo] | where BigWigsOptions is the fuplugin |
| 09:42.13 | vhaarr | hrmf? |
| 09:42.25 | vhaarr | Don't complain about getting help. |
| 09:42.34 | [Ammo] | so yourfupligin:OnClick should do whatever the Version.lua does when executing a query |
| 09:42.37 | alkis | there is BigWigsOptions:OnTooltipUpdate and BigWigsVersionQuery |
| 09:42.37 | alkis | i am not complaining about help |
| 09:42.48 | alkis | i am confused... and i am typing out why now :-) |
| 09:43.18 | alkis | there is BigWigsOptions:OnTooltipUpdate and BigWigsVersionQuery:OnTooltipUpdate |
| 09:43.23 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 09:43.25 | vhaarr | Obviously. |
| 09:43.27 | [Ammo] | that's because both use a tablet |
| 09:43.40 | alkis | but a different one each i guess |
| 09:43.51 | [Ammo] | check BigWigsVersionQuery:UpdateVersions() |
| 09:44.03 | [Ammo] | that's the initial code you should execute from your OnClick |
| 09:44.46 | alkis | aha |
| 09:44.53 | alkis | now it makes sense :-) |
| 09:45.00 | [Ammo] | and both bigwigsversionquery and bigwigsoptions are tablet things |
| 09:45.14 | [Ammo] | but bigwigsoptions is a fuplugin and bigwigsversionquery isn't |
| 09:45.17 | alkis | the options tablet is the one in fubar |
| 09:45.20 | [Ammo] | yes |
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| 09:45.32 | alkis | the other is a new one that is made on the first call of updateversions |
| 09:45.51 | alkis | coolio |
| 09:46.06 | alkis | thanks! |
| 09:46.22 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 09:47.00 | alkis | i might need some help with registering a new tablet... but i hope i can manage without :-) |
| 09:49.19 | [Ammo] | all the registering is done in Version.lua |
| 09:49.31 | [Ammo] | shouldn't be too hard |
| 09:53.03 | Elkano | lol... they are looking for grafic designers for DukeNukemForever. As bonus is mentiond that there is no temporal pressure wrt a release date... ^^ |
| 09:53.12 | vhaarr | rofl |
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| 09:56.32 | Sole | lol hasnt DukeNukemForever been in development for like 10 years already? |
| 09:56.47 | Kebinusan | hey, prey eventually made it to release |
| 09:57.25 | Funkeh` | Sole: yes ;p |
| 09:57.59 | Funkeh` | was one of my favourite mutiplayer games when i was young |
| 09:59.35 | Funkeh` | ouch |
| 10:00.49 | Sole | =] |
| 10:00.51 | Funkeh` | loading up latest BW Nefarian.lua:92 `}' expected (to close `}' at line 71) near `fear_soon_warning' |
| 10:00.58 | Sole | hmm |
| 10:01.16 | Sole | ckknight: is there a lua syntax file for notepad2? |
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| 10:02.26 | Funkeh` | Sole: try again :P |
| 10:03.18 | Sole | :P |
| 10:03.20 | FISKER_Q | someone probably forgot a , |
| 10:03.21 | FISKER_Q | :P |
| 10:03.22 | Galencia | Sole: yes there is |
| 10:03.42 | Galencia | or rather, there is a notepad2 with a lua syntax thingie compiled in |
| 10:04.12 | CIA-17 | 03nimbal * r13518 10/branches/sRaidFrames/: sRaidFrames (branch): created directory |
| 10:05.15 | CIA-17 | 03nimbal 07Nimbal * r13519 10sRaidFrames/: sRaidFrames (Nimbal's branch): created directory |
| 10:05.37 | Sole | found it |
| 10:05.43 | alkis | ammo: it seems that the code for each tooltip must be in a different module |
| 10:05.43 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13520 10BigWigs/BWL/Nefarian.lua: BigWigs (Nefarian): removed excessive , |
| 10:05.57 | [Ammo] | alkis: not a different module, but a different object yeah |
| 10:06.15 | Sole | I need a text editor which doesnt screw up korean characters when I save the file |
| 10:06.48 | [Ammo] | ultradeit |
| 10:06.51 | [Ammo] | ultraedit |
| 10:07.00 | alkis | ok silly question then... how do i make a different object? |
| 10:07.40 | [Ammo] | I mean a different tablet you can register |
| 10:07.44 | Funkeh` | fear_warning = "2秒åŽå‘动群体æ惧ï¼" |
| 10:07.45 | Funkeh` | fear_soon_warning = "5秒åŽå‘动群体æ惧",, |
| 10:07.54 | Funkeh` | oh nvm you fixed it =] |
| 10:08.10 | [Ammo] | I didn't :p |
| 10:08.14 | [Ammo] | did now though |
| 10:08.30 | CIA-17 | 03nimbal 07Nimbal * r13521 10sRaidFrames/independant/: sRaidFrames (Nimbal's branch): initial branching |
| 10:08.31 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13522 10BigWigs/BWL/Nefarian.lua: BigWigs (nefarian): and , on the line above |
| 10:08.37 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 10:08.40 | alkis | my lua skill is kinda low... but if i write function Foo:Foobar() end this defines a function in object Foo right? |
| 10:08.51 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 10:08.54 | alkis | and object Foo must be table? |
| 10:09.09 | [Ammo] | basically yeah |
| 10:09.38 | alkis | in my case does it need to be anything fancier than that (derive from something in aceoo or something)? |
| 10:09.47 | [Ammo] | probably yeah |
| 10:10.09 | Elkano | cool, my mIRC finaly shows UTF-8 :) |
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| 10:10.53 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 10:10.57 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
| 10:12.22 | Sole | Elkano: whered you get it to do that? |
| 10:12.44 | Elkano | I think it's build into 6.17 ^^ |
| 10:13.15 | Elkano | and make sure that the font settings are 'display and encode' |
| 10:13.57 | Funkeh` | err i didnt change any setthings and its displaying.. ;p |
| 10:14.09 | alkis | ammo it looks like it works with just Foo = { } ... |
| 10:14.51 | CIA-17 | 03nimbal 07Nimbal * r13523 10sRaidFrames/independant/: sRaidFrames (Nimbal's branch): sometimes, I could kill all turtles just to show them they should commit what I want |
| 10:15.31 | CIA-17 | 03nimbal 07Nimbal * r13524 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames/: sRaidFrames (Nimbal's branch): initial branching |
| 10:15.37 | DarkImakuni | brb, installing mIRC :) |
| 10:15.40 | Sole | hmm |
| 10:15.53 | Sole | Elkano: It shows UTF-8 encode is one |
| 10:15.55 | Sole | but it aint encoding shit |
| 10:16.20 | Sole | its under IRC -> Messages , correct? |
| 10:16.38 | Sole | my bad |
| 10:16.40 | Sole | found it :P |
| 10:16.50 | Sole | can someone please paste some utf-8 now :P |
| 10:16.50 | Elkano | ä ü ö <-- test |
| 10:16.54 | Sole | yar |
| 10:16.59 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
| 10:17.07 | phyber | interweb at work again. I can finally begin slacking :p |
| 10:17.12 | Elkano | (but I don't know if that was sent via UTF-8) |
| 10:17.13 | Sole | ay |
| 10:18.29 | Elkano | well... off to catch some lunch... l8erz |
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| 10:20.06 | DarkImakuni | My god... |
| 10:20.29 | alkis | one step closer to completely CTmod free raiding :-) |
| 10:20.44 | Funkeh` | i reached that step long ago =) |
| 10:20.49 | Funkeh` | no i lie |
| 10:20.54 | Funkeh` | i still use the timer :( |
| 10:20.59 | alkis | how do you track DKPs? |
| 10:21.09 | Funkeh` | i get someone else to do it :D |
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| 10:21.21 | alkis | that's the last one for me |
| 10:21.34 | Higdur | alt-tab to browser? :) |
| 10:21.35 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: Timer? |
| 10:21.47 | Funkeh` | yeah for timing between events |
| 10:21.56 | Funkeh` | CT_Timer |
| 10:21.58 | alkis | well with the system i use there will be no need for eqdkp either |
| 10:22.03 | vhaarr | Why do you need that? |
| 10:22.19 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: If there are boss warnings missing then please tell us, so we can add them to BW. |
| 10:22.52 | Funkeh` | ;p |
| 10:23.03 | vhaarr | What do you use it for? |
| 10:23.08 | Funkeh` | necb |
| 10:23.19 | vhaarr | I don't understand. |
| 10:23.29 | vhaarr | You use CT_Timer for NECB? |
| 10:23.38 | Funkeh` | yep |
| 10:23.39 | DarkImakuni | god I hate mIRC... going back to ChatZilla |
| 10:23.52 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: That doesn't make sense to me, but I don't use any of those mods. |
| 10:23.57 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: Care to explain? |
| 10:24.17 | Funkeh` | ^^ i use the timer to time between events to add boss events to necb |
| 10:24.20 | alkis | ammo: only problem is that the new tablet's posistion, etc is not saved. do i need to do that manually? or is there an easy way to do it? afaik fubar plugin does that automatically for its tooltip tablet |
| 10:24.43 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: Aha, so you don't use BigWigs, then? |
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| 10:24.43 | Funkeh` | i do |
| 10:24.51 | vhaarr | Then .. what timers are we missing? |
| 10:25.07 | Funkeh` | nothing is missing from bigwigs atm..afaik |
| 10:25.11 | DarkImakuni | ChatZilla > mIRC |
| 10:25.21 | vhaarr | ~cookie DarkImakuni |
| 10:25.28 | Galencia | oh, is there any way to cancel a bigwigs custom bar? |
| 10:25.34 | vhaarr | no |
| 10:25.39 | Galencia | can we get one? :) |
| 10:25.45 | vhaarr | why? |
| 10:25.58 | alkis | bigwigs is a revolution in addons imo |
| 10:26.08 | alkis | i can't think it can get any better than that :-) |
| 10:26.09 | Galencia | well, you could typo the /bwcb and make a 3 hour timer |
| 10:26.16 | Funkeh` | but necb doesnt have every single nax timer :) and im not the kind of person to look at other bossmods and add the timings, i prefer to play the encounter and add myself |
| 10:26.20 | Galencia | or, you might want to cancel the timer and restart it |
| 10:26.31 | vhaarr | hm |
| 10:26.31 | Galencia | or you might want to cancel the timer because its not relavant anymore |
| 10:26.32 | Galencia | or.. |
| 10:26.48 | Funkeh` | atm my guild is on gothik |
| 10:27.01 | Galencia | maybe make the "reset all running modules" cancel it? |
| 10:31.22 | Sole | I have one thing to say |
| 10:31.25 | Sole | Necb = poopy |
| 10:31.39 | Sole | use Chronometer, BigWigs and Antagonist to replace it ^_^ |
| 10:32.01 | Sole | 3 addons but they look purtier than necb...candybar <3 |
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| 10:32.06 | Funkeh` | i would if i wasnt co-author :) |
| 10:32.33 | Sole | funkydude? |
| 10:32.35 | sbu | Kalamadi: hmm - whats wrong with healorganizer? |
| 10:32.38 | Funkeh` | and i would ace is if i had the time :) |
| 10:32.45 | Sole | !toc Antagonist |
| 10:32.55 | Sole | why ace it? |
| 10:33.03 | Sole | Antagonist and Chronometer are an aced necb |
| 10:33.09 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Antagonist |
| 10:33.18 | Sole | if there is something missing then suggest it =] |
| 10:33.47 | Sole | wtf@curse ..trying to upload a new version - "An unknown error has occured" |
| 10:34.34 | Funkeh` | because of it popularity, would also aid ace2 |
| 10:34.42 | Funkeh` | and i like ace2 =) |
| 10:35.06 | Sole | true |
| 10:35.35 | Sole | but, and Im not saying this because my addon is an aced version of necb, necb is not the most efficient of addons |
| 10:35.48 | Sole | in fact the code is messy as all hell =[ |
| 10:35.59 | Funkeh` | =/ |
| 10:36.33 | Funkeh` | id love to record it from scratch tbh, but the tbc announcement put me off, along wiht the fact i dont have that much time |
| 10:36.43 | Funkeh` | recode* |
| 10:37.03 | Sole | the tbc announcement made me excited actually |
| 10:37.08 | Sole | maybe because Im not a healer |
| 10:37.24 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
| 10:37.36 | Funkeh` | tbh i prefer chronometer |
| 10:37.44 | Funkeh` | because it has the ability to refresh timings |
| 10:37.57 | Funkeh` | since im a healer i dont tend to use ant that much |
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| 10:38.53 | Funkeh` | chron + BW = <3 +ant for classes that dont do 300 smites |
| 10:39.40 | Sole | =] |
| 10:39.57 | Funkeh` | oh dear when did LV get in top10 most downloaded |
| 10:40.18 | Sole | oh god |
| 10:40.21 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 10:40.27 | Sole | just looking at the options screenshot I say its fugly |
| 10:40.39 | Sole | couldnt they be a bit creative at least? >_< |
| 10:40.47 | Funkeh` | sole it used to be a nice mod before the author went tipsy and over bloated it |
| 10:41.15 | Funkeh` | 'boss mods' means one thing, not pvp timings ;p |
| 10:41.17 | Sole | yeh |
| 10:41.22 | Sole | he has pvp timers? |
| 10:41.43 | Sole | why... |
| 10:41.50 | Funkeh` | ask him? :P |
| 10:42.06 | Sole | thats the reason I dislike necb |
| 10:42.13 | Sole | bloat |
| 10:42.17 | Funkeh` | god how i missed 3d portraits, <3 ag |
| 10:42.43 | Funkeh` | yeah sole but you know how hard it is to not cave into requests of the same thing over and over, take hostel for example :P |
| 10:43.16 | Sole | yea |
| 10:43.26 | sbu | uhm |
| 10:43.34 | Sole | only reason I caved in was because I myself wanted an ace2 acetimer |
| 10:43.42 | Sole | but then a proper conversation came along |
| 10:43.51 | Sole | and I hugged Bhattu |
| 10:44.05 | Funkeh` | well at the time we added boss timers to necb there werent any kind of 'bar' boss timers around afaik |
| 10:44.31 | Funkeh` | and some other feturs, which in time kinda adopted by other mods |
| 10:44.35 | sbu | Chronometer is extended acetimer and Antagonist a better hostelbar? :p |
| 10:44.44 | Sole | yes |
| 10:44.46 | Funkeh` | if i do ever recode it i think i strip it down sexy and naked |
| 10:44.53 | [Ammo] | with BigWigs I always say 'no' first |
| 10:44.56 | Sole | Antagonist = faster, sleeker, sexier hostelbar without durations because Chronometer does it |
| 10:45.02 | [Ammo] | when someone asks someone no is the first answer they get |
| 10:45.08 | Sole | lol ammo |
| 10:45.10 | [Ammo] | after that I'll start thinking about it |
| 10:45.11 | Funkeh` | ammo |
| 10:45.14 | Funkeh` | <3 ;p |
| 10:45.21 | Sole | haha |
| 10:45.36 | Funkeh` | no(but illthink about it?) :P |
| 10:45.44 | [Ammo] | I usually go like |
| 10:45.47 | [Ammo] | short answer: no |
| 10:45.54 | sbu | mhh, i got some strange behaviour from ora 2 cooldown timers yesterday, the bars were at different scale (some 1.0, others ~0.8 i guess) |
| 10:45.57 | [Ammo] | long answer: why would we want this? just for this one thing? blah blah |
| 10:46.06 | [Ammo] | sbu: yeah, wondering what is causing that |
| 10:46.09 | [Ammo] | I haven't had that problem |
| 10:46.13 | [Ammo] | sbu: I tried to fix it |
| 10:46.14 | [Ammo] | but meh |
| 10:46.27 | Sole | so I think Antagonist is complete |
| 10:46.27 | sbu | [Ammo]: but im not the only one w/ that problem? ;o |
| 10:46.32 | [Ammo] | you aren't |
| 10:46.34 | Sole | except for localizations |
| 10:46.42 | [Ammo] | and I thought I had fixed it, and I can't reproduce it on my end |
| 10:46.45 | [Ammo] | so that's kind of a problem |
| 10:47.04 | Funkeh` | Sole: its complete if you moved that damn toc space! :P |
| 10:47.08 | sbu | mhh, yep |
| 10:47.28 | [Ammo] | it has something to do with setting the scale on other bars |
| 10:47.50 | [Ammo] | and the fact that I reuse barframes |
| 10:47.53 | Galencia | [Ammo]: can i have resettable custom timers? :p |
| 10:47.55 | [Ammo] | since they are not gc'd |
| 10:47.58 | Galencia | (second time i asked, you cant say no!) |
| 10:48.06 | [Ammo] | galencia: not yet |
| 10:48.15 | [Ammo] | galencia: was just in a discussion with vhaar for the options |
| 10:48.16 | Galencia | oooh, tricky are we, a different version of no |
| 10:48.29 | [Ammo] | because it needs to be a logical option |
| 10:48.34 | [Ammo] | and not just a hacked in thing |
| 10:48.38 | Galencia | yeah i was kidding mostly |
| 10:48.38 | alkis | ammo: how do i save the new tablet's position across ReloadUI()? i made it into a module now and mixin AceDB in it... but it didn't help :-/ |
| 10:48.46 | [Ammo] | alkis: no idea :) |
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| 10:48.52 | alkis | :-) |
| 10:48.59 | alkis | vharr? any clues? |
| 10:49.00 | [Ammo] | alkis: read the tablet-2.0 documention on the wiki |
| 10:49.43 | Sole | Funkeh: what toc space? |
| 10:50.03 | vhaarr | alkis: Tablet saves the position automatically. |
| 10:50.19 | vhaarr | hm |
| 10:50.24 | alkis | ammo: i did |
| 10:50.27 | sbu | [Ammo]: hmm yep - that was i thought, i set bigwigs scale to 0.8 before that error occured |
| 10:50.27 | vhaarr | Or maybe that's FBP-2.0 doing it. |
| 10:50.29 | Funkeh` | you probably removed it, cant remember :P but leaving a space on an empty line in toc gives you a framexml.log error, just wow being wow |
| 10:50.32 | Sole | hacked in = bad |
| 10:50.38 | [Ammo] | sbu: ok I think I can reproduce that then |
| 10:50.39 | sbu | but resetting it to 1.0 didnt fix it |
| 10:50.48 | alkis | vharr: the tooltip of the fubar plugin does and works like a charm |
| 10:50.49 | [Ammo] | wonder why though |
| 10:51.07 | [Ammo] | but I'll do some debugging |
| 10:51.13 | alkis | the other one i register manualy, keeps the position and everything until i do a reloadui() |
| 10:52.23 | alkis | hmm it seems like bigwigs version query has the same behaviour.. so maybe i should ask ckknight when he gets back online |
| 10:53.24 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13525 10Antagonist/Antagonist.toc: Antagonist - removed imaginary spaces in toc which WoW doesnt like because its on crack |
| 10:53.36 | Sole | !toc Antagonist |
| 10:54.07 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Antagonist |
| 10:54.39 | Funkeh` | Sole: <3 |
| 10:54.59 | [Ammo] | La vendetta might be in the top 10 on curse, but bigwigs has tons of dark downloads from wowace svn/files and from wowinterface as well |
| 10:55.00 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Antagonist |
| 10:55.19 | vhaarr | alkis: You need to set detachedData when calling Register(...). |
| 10:55.29 | Funkeh` | oh i have a modding section on my guilds forum |
| 10:55.35 | Funkeh` | i shout at them for using LV |
| 10:55.46 | Sole | most people who download from curse dont know jack about all the addons |
| 10:55.54 | Kebinusan | yeah ammo, I download bigwigs once and repost it locally for my guild |
| 10:55.55 | Sole | and most are too arrogant to try something new |
| 10:56.04 | [Ammo] | but I don't care much about it |
| 10:56.11 | Funkeh` | Sole: that comes true when titan reaches top10 |
| 10:56.20 | Kebinusan | the LV loatheb mod is a bit more flexible, but w/e |
| 10:56.28 | vhaarr | how so? |
| 10:56.34 | [Ammo] | that's because it has strat info :) |
| 10:56.39 | [Ammo] | and bigwigs doesn't (not vanilla |
| 10:56.40 | Sole | they just hear "omg ctraid is awesome" and they dont even know of bigwigs |
| 10:56.41 | vhaarr | ah the rotation mod? |
| 10:56.46 | Funkeh` | i dunno about flexible, but its the only part of LV i like |
| 10:56.53 | Funkeh` | the loatehb mod |
| 10:56.58 | Kebinusan | the rotation mod is a bit more flexible, but yeah there is a ton of strategy stuff in LV, its pretty sick |
| 10:57.12 | Kebinusan | I looked at the loatheb one for example, it tells you when to take potions and stuff |
| 10:57.26 | Kebinusan | some people cant think for themselves it seems |
| 10:57.30 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 10:57.37 | Galencia | bigwigs > all |
| 10:58.03 | Kebinusan | heh yeah bigwigs is a raiding requirement for our guild now and ventrilo has never been quieter |
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| 10:58.17 | [Ammo] | it took me some time convincing my guild |
| 10:58.21 | Sole | ohh man |
| 10:58.23 | [Ammo] | but I just tossed it to my MTs and some rogues |
| 10:58.26 | [Ammo] | for twin emps |
| 10:58.34 | Galencia | im slowly put surely getting there with it |
| 10:58.35 | [Ammo] | they did the rest of the convincing for my guild :) |
| 10:58.40 | Sole | :) |
| 10:58.50 | Kebinusan | [Ammo], alot of people are starting to switch to Ora2, its amazing what bantobar can do :-) |
| 10:58.51 | Sole | quiet vent = heaven when fighting a boss |
| 10:59.00 | Sole | our vent was hilarious during raids |
| 10:59.10 | Sole | but sometimes people didnt know when to stop the jokes...meaning bosses |
| 10:59.13 | Funkeh` | actually ive gotten a lot of my guild to swap to ace2 mods cause of thaddius tbh ;p |
| 10:59.15 | Sole | and we'd have trouble |
| 10:59.30 | Sole | but at times when our vent was quiet and we were concentrating...we nailed every boss we tried |
| 10:59.35 | Funkeh` | and oRA2 is what ctra should always have been |
| 10:59.43 | Sole | so sometimes we had to mute people to get that :P |
| 11:00.04 | Funkeh` | gg, server down again.. |
| 11:00.20 | Sole | gnite |
| 11:00.28 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 11:00.29 | alkis | vhaar: trying it out now... |
| 11:00.32 | Kebinusan | Yeah, Ive avoided recommending oRA2 just cause I dont want to get stuck supporting it and the whole.. oh you want an EM you should download X, and raid frames? well try Y, etc |
| 11:00.35 | Sole | btw test Antagonist :) |
| 11:00.52 | Kebinusan | but alot of guildmates have switched from DAB to agUF and it all kinda flows from that |
| 11:01.03 | Sole | I slapped my friend today |
| 11:01.07 | Sole | he told me he was using DAB |
| 11:01.11 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 11:01.13 | Kebinusan | <-- uses DAB |
| 11:01.21 | Funkeh` | AG will blow no |
| 11:01.23 | Funkeh` | now* |
| 11:01.27 | Sole | I slap him and then screamed in his fase "WWW.WOWACE.COM BARTENDER2"! |
| 11:01.27 | Funkeh` | with 3d frames |
| 11:01.37 | Sole | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:01.45 | Kebinusan | sole, DAB is alot more flexible |
| 11:01.50 | Sole | just simple player, target, tot, pet and party frames |
| 11:01.53 | Funkeh` | lots of people in my guild didnt use it because it didnt have frames, so ++ |
| 11:01.59 | Funkeh` | portraits* |
| 11:02.01 | Kebinusan | Sole, my main bitch with agUF atm is fonts |
| 11:02.02 | Funkeh` | -.- |
| 11:02.09 | Sole | I like the fonts |
| 11:02.10 | [Ammo] | euhm, the portraits are optional |
| 11:02.23 | Sole | I dislike DAB |
| 11:02.24 | Kebinusan | I had to go through and edit my layouts to use clearfont |
| 11:02.28 | Sole | its too much configuration |
| 11:02.35 | Funkeh` | no i mean it will grow in popularity since it has portraits now ammo :) |
| 11:02.42 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 11:02.44 | Sole | what does clearfont look like? |
| 11:03.00 | Iceroth | Sole, http://iceroth.net/wow/ui_solo.jpg for example |
| 11:03.09 | Kebinusan | its alot easier to read imo |
| 11:03.10 | [Ammo] | it's not monospace so its shitty :p |
| 11:03.27 | [Ammo] | or maybe it is nowadays |
| 11:03.34 | [Ammo] | but I never could get used to it :) |
| 11:03.35 | Kebinusan | there is a monospace one, but my main thing is its alot easier to read at smaller font sizes and different ui scales |
| 11:03.45 | Sole | Iceroth: KITTY KAT MEOW |
| 11:03.53 | Kebinusan | aguf fonts jsut seem really hard to read at 100% scale |
| 11:04.08 | Sole | my agUF is at 200% scale |
| 11:04.15 | [Ammo] | they're just the defeault blizz fonts |
| 11:04.19 | [Ammo] | so you can change those easily |
| 11:04.30 | Sole | hmm |
| 11:04.30 | [Ammo] | I don't see the problem |
| 11:04.39 | Sole | Iceroth I think I might get that mini combat log addon |
| 11:04.45 | Sole | whatchumacallit |
| 11:05.11 | Kebinusan | [Ammo], except aguf doesnt use the default bliz path so it doesnt get overwritten by clearfont automagically it uses aguf/fonts/barframes.ttf or yaguf.ttf |
| 11:05.17 | Sole | damn Iceroth: clean interface |
| 11:05.26 | [Ammo] | Kebinusan: then overwrite those :) |
| 11:05.30 | Sole | anywya gnite its too late |
| 11:05.34 | Kebinusan | yeh |
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| 11:05.56 | Kebinusan | probably should have done that instead of editing the layouts |
| 11:06.09 | [Ammo] | then again, I kinda like the font it is now |
| 11:06.12 | Kebinusan | but it would be nice if you had configurable options for font size and whatnot, aguf kinda lacks that |
| 11:06.20 | [Ammo] | but I like the default blizz font as well |
| 11:06.31 | Funkeh` | me also |
| 11:06.43 | Kebinusan | yeah, its been so long since I looked at the default bliz font |
| 11:06.52 | [Ammo] | so used to it, switching to another font makes me miss things |
| 11:06.59 | sbu | uhm, did i already mention that oRA2 mt frames are great? :p (no kidding) |
| 11:07.01 | Kebinusan | back when the ui scaling affected everything it was kinda painful to look at if your ui scale was small |
| 11:07.09 | Galencia | is it me or did they make hunters way more overpowered than they already are? |
| 11:07.14 | sbu | i _really_ like them the way they are at the moment :o |
| 11:07.23 | axxo | hunters are weak |
| 11:07.27 | Kebinusan | Galencia, not really because there are signifcant ranged attack power changes |
| 11:07.32 | Iceroth | Galencia, what, you mean 3s silence every 20s is not imba? |
| 11:07.42 | Iceroth | add in combat traps and scatter shot to that |
| 11:07.52 | Galencia | Iceroth: you got me the wrong way around |
| 11:07.57 | Kebinusan | Iceroth, 2 words: Earth Shock |
| 11:08.11 | Galencia | Kebinusan: .. which coincide with significant weapon dps upgrades and stat point reallocation |
| 11:08.20 | sbu | i like the new priest spell to regain mana :) |
| 11:08.23 | sbu | (in combat) |
| 11:08.53 | Iceroth | yea mini-innervate |
| 11:09.05 | sbu | seems to be better than mage evocation thing, because you cant be interrupted |
| 11:09.13 | Galencia | that shot-redirect-aggro thing for hunters is pretty cool |
| 11:09.43 | sbu | wah, login server not working |
| 11:09.52 | Iceroth | was really slow a moment ago |
| 11:10.01 | Iceroth | and 10mins before i got in without troubles |
| 11:10.18 | Galencia | a few servers are down |
| 11:10.23 | Galencia | so its pretty overloaded, as usual |
| 11:10.29 | sbu | 'connecting' and 'disconnected ...' is all i can see |
| 11:10.51 | Kebinusan | Bleh, time to go 'be productive' |
| 11:11.12 | sbu | uhm, productive as in sleeping? |
| 11:11.30 | Kebinusan | I wish |
| 11:11.36 | axxo | gonna be majorly fun |
| 11:11.44 | axxo | hunter: i don't like that priest |
| 11:12.11 | axxo | priest gets critted for 9k crushing |
| 11:12.48 | sbu | uhhh |
| 11:13.18 | sbu | i think its time to gather star rubys and aquamarines again |
| 11:13.22 | axxo | notting beats snowballs at c'thun tho |
| 11:13.42 | alkis | vharr: so "detachedData", self.db.profile.detachedData should be enough? |
| 11:13.55 | sbu | http://www.worldofraids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=389 <-- *sigh* :p |
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| 11:14.21 | Galencia | axxo: hahahaha |
| 11:14.33 | sbu | wonder if thos figurines will be BOP :/ |
| 11:14.55 | sbu | ahaha, all german servers down *sigh* |
| 11:15.05 | sbu | ahh, better |
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| 11:18.41 | mjc | morning X |
| 11:18.47 | mjc | vhaarr: around? |
| 11:18.50 | vhaarr | yes |
| 11:19.03 | mjc | feel free to lart me |
| 11:19.27 | vhaarr | why? :) |
| 11:19.37 | mjc | CG_OhNoes? |
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| 11:24.03 | alkis | vhaar: do i need to do anything else than point detachedData to self.db....somevar? cause i tried this and it doesnt work :-/ |
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| 11:29.22 | CIA-17 | 03nimbal 07Nimbal * r13526 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames (Nimbal's branch): group and class positioning now independent |
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| 11:38.55 | mjc | ok so, checking out all my addons without externals didn't work right. !!!Libs might be missing something, I think |
| 11:39.39 | mjc | fex, onebag loaded but didn't actually replace my bags. prat never loaded. etc |
| 11:42.25 | mjc | what's most annoying is that I didn't manage to get any errors cause bugsack didn't want to load correctly either. |
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| 11:53.21 | dafire | hi :) |
| 11:53.22 | dafire | Override Keybindings |
| 11:53.22 | dafire | SetOverrideBinding(owner, isPriority, "KEY"[, "COMMAND"]) |
| 11:53.22 | dafire | SetOverrideBindingSpell(owner, isPriority, "KEY", "spellname") |
| 11:53.22 | dafire | SetOverrideBindingClick(owner, isPriority, "KEY", "buttonName"[, "mouseButton"]) |
| 11:53.22 | dafire | ClearOverrideBindings(owner) |
| 11:53.24 | dafire | Added optional checkOverride parameter to GetBindingAction() |
| 11:53.55 | dafire | new toys ;) |
| 11:56.46 | DarkImakuni | Does this mean WoWPlayer might be making a comeback? :) |
| 11:57.28 | haste | WoWPlayer? |
| 11:58.10 | DarkImakuni | Play iTunes/WMP/FooBar in WoW |
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| 11:58.23 | mjc | no, it doesn't look like that |
| 11:58.29 | DarkImakuni | awww :( |
| 11:59.09 | CIA-17 | 03hshh * r13527 10EQCompare/EQCompare.lua: |
| 11:59.09 | CIA-17 | EQCompare: |
| 11:59.09 | CIA-17 | - call orgin hooked script at first while processing tooltip display, it may fix a lot of problem, and make better compat with other mods |
| 11:59.10 | dafire | it might let you do cascading menus using keys more then once for faster access ;) |
| 11:59.15 | mjc | get a keyboard with media keys and go away :0 |
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| 12:02.24 | [Wobin] | Rarely seen in the U.S., the Kinder Surprise Egg! |
| 12:02.25 | [Wobin] | The little parts are swallowable by kinder, and the eggs are therefore illegal in the States. These were smuggled in from Israel. :D They are orginally Italian Kinder Eggs. |
| 12:02.27 | [Wobin] | O.O |
| 12:02.32 | [Wobin] | Illegal? |
| 12:02.37 | [Wobin] | O.O |
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| 12:03.50 | dafire | i remember some rogues suggested ferrets as pet in wow .. but blizz said they couldn't do that because they are illegal in some states ;) |
| 12:04.09 | [Wobin] | >< |
| 12:04.29 | [Wobin] | Aren't like... devilsaurs illegal in the states? |
| 12:05.18 | Chippen|TaE | haha :) |
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| 12:11.50 | dafire | does anybody knows if rosterlib fires an event if someone in raid gets disconnected/goes offline ? :) |
| 12:14.34 | Grey|away | oh nice write up about the changes (yeah i know im supposed to be sleeping :P) http://warcraft-and-you.blogspot.com/2006/10/add-onmacro-lockdown-and-you.html |
| 12:15.41 | dafire | omg.. 171 comments ) |
| 12:15.57 | oxman | about the new UNIT_event in TBC, do you know if we'll catch ALL events from ALL unit in raid, or only unit in combatlog range ? |
| 12:18.53 | vhaarr | ckknight: you around? |
| 12:20.08 | [Wobin] | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.09 | [Wobin] | http://community.livejournal.com/baaaaabyanimals/2746739.html?style=mine#cutid1 |
| 12:20.33 | oxman | anyone know ? |
| 12:20.44 | dafire | i guess it's using a range setting. |
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| 12:22.10 | JJacobsson | where was the wiki page with the proposed toc tags? search seems borked at the moment... |
| 12:25.08 | Thiana | The more I read of the expansion changes for addons, the more I'm thinking about just dumping my priest entirely :/ |
| 12:27.01 | [Wobin] | me too =( |
| 12:27.06 | [Wobin] | Or turning pure shadow |
| 12:27.10 | [Wobin] | VE ftw =P |
| 12:27.53 | vhaarr | Shadow priest is excellent, the only boss it matters on is Patchwerk. |
| 12:28.38 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 12:28.46 | [Wobin] | I'm thinking of an emergency monitor |
| 12:28.55 | [Wobin] | It will show the most required heals etc |
| 12:28.58 | [Wobin] | statically |
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| 12:29.17 | [Wobin] | and draw arrows to the player frames of the people theyre referencing with different colour arrows =) |
| 12:30.00 | [Wobin] | JJacobsson: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Metadata |
| 12:31.15 | CIA-17 | 03darkimakuni * r13528 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: |
| 12:31.15 | CIA-17 | FuBar_ToFu: |
| 12:31.15 | CIA-17 | - Added BigWigs Custom Bar support: tell your party/raid where you are flying to and how long left to go! (if they all have BigWigs installed) |
| 12:31.15 | CIA-17 | ~nuke trailing whitespace |
| 12:31.28 | purl | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at trailing whitespace ... B☢☢M! |
| 12:31.28 | [Ammo] | I was thinking of a distributed detox :) |
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| 12:31.35 | [Ammo] | just have people determine for everyone the best target to decurse |
| 12:31.37 | oxman | about the new UNIT_event in TBC, do you know if we'll catch ALL events from ALL unit in raid, or only unit in combatlog range ? |
| 12:31.41 | [Ammo] | and highlight the raidframe appropriately |
| 12:31.47 | [Wobin] | sorry oxman, no idea =( |
| 12:31.56 | [Ammo] | that way all decursers will have a different target |
| 12:32.00 | [Ammo] | that is highlighted |
| 12:32.04 | [Wobin] | [Ammo]: hm |
| 12:32.17 | [Wobin] | Sort of "Pick me! No, Pick me!!" sort of thing? |
| 12:32.25 | Grey|away | i just hope the server name is returned all the time, not just when you are in range in BGs |
| 12:32.31 | oxman | You can do that according to the range first [Ammo], then randomly give one to someone, and other to other priest |
| 12:32.37 | [Ammo] | yeah oxman |
| 12:32.39 | [Ammo] | that's what I was thinking |
| 12:32.53 | oxman | An other good idea |
| 12:33.00 | oxman | its try to detect which priest is assign to MT |
| 12:33.00 | [Ammo] | should make sure decursing is done properly and fast |
| 12:33.08 | oxman | detect the range between priest and MT |
| 12:33.25 | oxman | then dispell it in priority if the priest seems link with MT |
| 12:33.34 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 12:33.40 | [Wobin] | what's the change in targetting now? |
| 12:33.43 | [Ammo] | you can only highlight / point out frames |
| 12:33.50 | [Ammo] | you can't target automatically from a click |
| 12:33.56 | [Ammo] | you have to have the binding set before combat |
| 12:34.13 | oxman | what do you think about my idea and MT ? |
| 12:34.17 | [Ammo] | so you set up mouse5 for cleanse for instance, and then click the highlighted person |
| 12:34.24 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 12:34.31 | [Wobin] | I'm wondering how it will affect PaintBall |
| 12:34.37 | [Wobin] | for setting raidicons |
| 12:34.39 | navv | does this binding set before combat mean |
| 12:34.43 | [Ammo] | paintball won't work anymore I think |
| 12:34.46 | [Ammo] | but not sure |
| 12:34.48 | navv | that essentially you need to have the stuff in OnClick of the frame ? |
| 12:34.52 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:34.57 | navv | yeah, thought so |
| 12:34.58 | [Ammo] | you have to set the clickbinding beforehand |
| 12:35.03 | navv | yep |
| 12:35.23 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 12:35.24 | navv | and CastSpellByName is gone completely, right? |
| 12:35.29 | [Wobin] | Can you target from someone else's target? |
| 12:35.42 | navv | yes, if you set the function pre-fight |
| 12:36.08 | [Ammo] | oh and you can't move frames during fight |
| 12:36.13 | navv | or hide |
| 12:36.14 | [Ammo] | apparantly |
| 12:36.14 | navv | or show |
| 12:36.19 | navv | but, can you alphachannel them ? |
| 12:36.24 | [Ammo] | probably |
| 12:36.36 | navv | poor man's hiding then |
| 12:36.46 | [Ammo] | well no need to hide |
| 12:36.50 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 12:36.54 | [Ammo] | as long as highlights work |
| 12:36.57 | [Wobin] | TargetUnit(x) will no longer work? |
| 12:37.02 | [Ammo] | inndeed |
| 12:37.09 | navv | it will work, but not as now |
| 12:37.10 | oxman | i think you can change the alphachannel |
| 12:37.11 | [Ammo] | unless you've bound it beforehand |
| 12:37.16 | oxman | can'T |
| 12:37.18 | [Ammo] | to something |
| 12:37.25 | [Ammo] | you can't dynamically do it |
| 12:37.54 | oxman | The new restriction in TBC are intersting for the gameplay |
| 12:37.54 | oxman | :) |
| 12:38.08 | [Wobin] | That's kinda weird |
| 12:38.23 | [Wobin] | TargetUnit("Raid5target") will fail then? |
| 12:38.29 | [Wobin] | programaticaaly |
| 12:38.33 | navv | it wil work |
| 12:38.38 | navv | if you do it before combat to |
| 12:38.43 | navv | fooframe.OnClick = ... |
| 12:38.45 | oxman | but You can't have "TargetUnit(value)" |
| 12:38.47 | [Wobin] | that's just dumb |
| 12:38.48 | yacoob | oxman, I like the way you put it. |
| 12:38.50 | oxman | where value is modify :p |
| 12:39.00 | oxman | sorry yacoob ? |
| 12:39.06 | yacoob | oxman, "Oh, what interesting way of crippling our gameplay" :) |
| 12:39.09 | yacoob | 14:37 < oxman> The new restriction in TBC are intersting for the gameplay |
| 12:39.15 | yacoob | :) just joking |
| 12:39.18 | Thiana | I'm also wondering how this new interface is going to work for keyboard users. I use my mouse for navigation only. The rest I do via keyboard. I dont want to have to be running my mouse all over a large screen trying to hit the various UI elmeents in time critical situations :( |
| 12:39.24 | oxman | :p |
| 12:39.38 | [Wobin] | dumb dumb dumb |
| 12:39.43 | oxman | you MUST use mouse to heal in raid |
| 12:39.44 | oxman | :) |
| 12:39.47 | [Wobin] | . o O ("ra ra ra") |
| 12:39.53 | oxman | you take lots of time to heal without mouse in raid |
| 12:40.09 | oxman | and i use always my keyboard when i can :) |
| 12:40.16 | Thiana | oxman: Nonsense. I heal quite happily with Squishy and keyboard now. No mousing involved at all. |
| 12:40.18 | oxman | but heal someone in raid is more quick with click casting than keyboard |
| 12:40.22 | [Wobin] | how did you target your whole raid without a mouse? |
| 12:40.33 | oxman | but Squishy will not exist with TBC |
| 12:40.33 | oxman | :p |
| 12:40.41 | Galencia | oxman: yes it will. |
| 12:40.44 | Thiana | oxman: Thats the point oxman :-P |
| 12:40.49 | oxman | [Wobin] something like : number for subgroup, number for player in subgroup |
| 12:40.53 | oxman | but very long compare to mouse :) |
| 12:40.56 | oxman | Galencia nop |
| 12:40.57 | CIA-17 | 03darkimakuni * r13529 10FuBar_ToFu/FuBar_ToFu.toc: |
| 12:40.58 | CIA-17 | FuBar_ToFu: |
| 12:40.58 | CIA-17 | - oCD, oCB, and BigWigs are now optional dependencies |
| 12:41.02 | Galencia | oxman: yes. |
| 12:41.07 | [Wobin] | oxman: That's purely inconvenient |
| 12:41.11 | oxman | Galencia wake up ^^ |
| 12:41.13 | Galencia | read the changes, understand them, and come back :) |
| 12:41.22 | [Wobin] | There's no way I'm going to memorise number combinations to heal |
| 12:41.23 | oxman | and what's the change ? |
| 12:41.30 | oxman | [Wobin] ;) |
| 12:41.36 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/FuBar_ToFu |
| 12:41.39 | [Wobin] | right |
| 12:41.50 | [Wobin] | So is there a definitive listing for the changes known so far? |
| 12:42.12 | [Wobin] | Galencia: It'll exist, just not in the same capacity |
| 12:42.23 | Thiana | Just Iriels normal thread on the forums. |
| 12:42.51 | oxman | Galencia and what's the change ? |
| 12:43.05 | FtH|eagle | is there a library which returns the itemid, slot, texture etc from an itemlink? |
| 12:43.09 | oxman | Slouken have post lots of features about the new UI |
| 12:43.14 | oxman | but its hard to understand all without try |
| 12:43.24 | oxman | the new event UNIT_ are amazine |
| 12:43.34 | oxman | and according to them name, I think they will work without a range |
| 12:43.35 | Thiana | So what other mmorpgs are there which have decent scripting to play with? |
| 12:43.36 | oxman | like UNIT_HEALTH |
| 12:43.49 | oxman | so no problem to do a stats addon with ONE addon and no many addons in the raid :) |
| 12:43.54 | oxman | no one Thiana |
| 12:44.08 | oxman | wow is the best to do that |
| 12:44.13 | oxman | far away the other |
| 12:44.13 | Grey|away | bleh mount me wont be working for my travel form in battle |
| 12:44.41 | Thiana | oxman: After these changes that may not be true anymore. They've crippled it :/ |
| 12:44.55 | FISKER_Q | atleast yours doesn't crash your game :( |
| 12:44.56 | oxman | Thiana looks the other mmorpg, you will understand ;) |
| 12:45.09 | oxman | Thiana its only an other way to do our addons :) |
| 12:45.31 | Thiana | oxman: You havent read the changes in their entirety have you. |
| 12:45.39 | Grey|away | mountme used to crash me on my mac |
| 12:45.49 | Grey|away | dont know why though |
| 12:45.50 | oxman | i've read all changes, or forget someone |
| 12:45.56 | oxman | where i can found the changes ? |
| 12:47.52 | oxman | Thiana ? |
| 12:48.20 | Thiana | oxman: We already answered that. On the us forums, look at the thread started by Iriel about the BC changes. |
| 12:48.51 | Thiana | I think this sums things up (from that link posted earlier): Botters, gold buyers, and gold sellers operate with impunity in WoW, and instead of trying to fix that problem, Bliz is clamping down on add-ons that work around their poorly designed user interface. What are they thinking: Healers already are the least popular classes, so lets make their play experience even worse than it already is? It doesn't make any sense, but that look |
| 12:48.51 | Thiana | s like where things are headed. |
| 12:48.51 | oxman | i've read all this thread. |
| 12:49.14 | oxman | I think you must try Lineage 2 |
| 12:49.27 | oxman | the basic interface of wow (without addon) is very very very very very very very good compare to lineage 2 |
| 12:49.48 | oxman | so wow interface with addon and the restrictions of TBC is incomparable to lineage 2 interface :) |
| 12:49.53 | oxman | and lots of other mmorpg interface |
| 12:49.56 | oxman | i've try lots of them |
| 12:49.57 | Thiana | oxman: Just because it's better than Game A, doesnt mean it's ok to make the interface worse. |
| 12:49.59 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 12:50.04 | [Wobin] | I'm reading =( |
| 12:50.06 | haste | okey, time to break into the conversation! |
| 12:50.07 | oxman | and the default blizzard interface is very often better than the other |
| 12:50.08 | [Wobin] | But I'm not comprehending |
| 12:50.11 | oxman | so with addon its incomparable |
| 12:50.11 | haste | http://tinyurl.com/create.php << help me with a name for that |
| 12:50.12 | Mikma | what's up |
| 12:50.28 | [Wobin] | I need a list of "You now cannot do X during Y" =P |
| 12:50.31 | oxman | a name for that ? shortcut url ? |
| 12:50.36 | [Wobin] | As my brain is dead |
| 12:50.38 | haste | oh, I fail :( |
| 12:50.44 | haste | http://tinyurl.com/qfwmx ! |
| 12:50.46 | [Wobin] | u fail it |
| 12:50.53 | oxman | As I've said [Wobin], we can know exactly how the changes work without test |
| 12:51.00 | [Wobin] | can't? |
| 12:51.04 | oxman | can't yes |
| 12:51.04 | oxman | :) |
| 12:51.07 | haste | [Wobin]: plixx.org doesn't work anymore, and tinyurl is crap copared :p |
| 12:51.17 | [Wobin] | omg so slow |
| 12:51.33 | [Wobin] | why is my internet dragging? =( |
| 12:51.42 | oxman | the fubar like that with oskin bar is very nice |
| 12:51.42 | oxman | :) |
| 12:51.52 | sbu | haste: wtf is it? ;o |
| 12:52.07 | haste | sbu: just to be able to search the bag after some item |
| 12:52.09 | oxman | why plixx.org is better than tinyurl ? :| |
| 12:52.09 | [Wobin] | TinyPad? |
| 12:52.19 | haste | going to add support for the bank also, but meeh |
| 12:52.30 | sbu | hmm and what happens if you find something? |
| 12:52.30 | haste | [Wobin]: look at the top bag :p |
| 12:52.37 | haste | sbu: look at the top bag |
| 12:52.39 | [Wobin] | ah |
| 12:52.41 | sbu | ah |
| 12:52.42 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 12:52.45 | oxman | well :) |
| 12:52.53 | [Wobin] | dya know what would be cool? |
| 12:52.59 | haste | no? |
| 12:53.07 | [Wobin] | A keybinding that pops up an editbox |
| 12:53.11 | [Wobin] | which you enter your search |
| 12:53.18 | [Wobin] | then it shows up only what you search for |
| 12:53.20 | haste | That would be useful! |
| 12:53.22 | [Wobin] | in it's own bag |
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| 12:53.34 | haste | but it's more work then what I have time for :p |
| 12:53.36 | [Wobin] | kinda like Quicksilver in mac or Colibri |
| 12:53.47 | [Wobin] | I might intergrate that into PK |
| 12:54.10 | haste | I could make something similar tho', a list like hC's mail add on uses |
| 12:54.14 | haste | BulkMail was the name! |
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| 12:54.26 | [Wobin] | feh |
| 12:54.33 | [Wobin] | I don't know how much work I want to do with addons =\ |
| 12:54.46 | oxman | definitively, fubar + oskin bar is very very nice like that |
| 12:54.46 | [Wobin] | until I learn more about the changes, and how it'll affect my mods |
| 12:55.09 | oxman | I need to rewrite my EP_BestTarget :') |
| 12:55.17 | oxman | The main process use TargetUnit :p |
| 12:55.18 | [Wobin] | hm name eh? |
| 12:55.28 | [Wobin] | oxman: How will you get around it? |
| 12:55.30 | haste | oxman: I hate such add ons :p |
| 12:55.37 | haste | so I'm glad blizzard killed them off |
| 12:55.41 | oxman | haste its like an emergency monitor ^^ |
| 12:55.49 | oxman | [Wobin] something with frame highlight |
| 12:55.49 | [Wobin] | haste: PaintBall won't work though =( |
| 12:55.56 | haste | oxman: I hate such add ons. |
| 12:56.09 | oxman | haste its like haste's addon |
| 12:56.10 | oxman | :') |
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| 12:56.15 | haste | [Wobin]: We used Paintball once, gave dps warriors targets and such |
| 12:56.17 | oxman | "I hate my addons" |
| 12:56.17 | oxman | ;) |
| 12:56.20 | [Wobin] | Well... autotargetting on paintball won't work |
| 12:56.21 | haste | oxman: no it's not! |
| 12:56.25 | oxman | xD |
| 12:56.28 | oxman | I joke |
| 12:56.34 | oxman | I've forget your addon except ouf3 |
| 12:56.38 | oxman | when you'll release it ? :p |
| 12:56.40 | [Wobin] | and autotargetting was kinda cool |
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| 12:57.06 | haste | oxman: when I have time to finish it :p |
| 12:57.14 | [Wobin] | alllllthough... |
| 12:57.19 | evl | !notes PaintBall |
| 12:57.19 | SVNBot | PaintBall Notes: Paints a target with a raidicon on mouseover || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/PaintBall |
| 12:57.25 | [Wobin] | if we set a keybinding to TargetUnit("mouseover")..... |
| 12:57.27 | [Wobin] | will that work? |
| 12:57.43 | [Wobin] | meh, no it won't =\ |
| 12:58.12 | [Wobin] | evl: it also gave you the option to choose a raidicon to autotarget |
| 12:58.32 | evl | I need some magic addon to fix Fankriss :D |
| 12:58.35 | evl | We have snake problems |
| 12:58.38 | oxman | why it will not work ? |
| 12:58.41 | evl | They're on the plane, the train everywhere |
| 12:58.42 | [Wobin] | and then if you clicked the activation, either grabbed the target from if someone else in the raid was targetting, or through mouseover |
| 12:58.44 | oxman | i think it will work [Wobin] |
| 12:59.03 | oxman | anyway, the new restriction are VERY obscur actually |
| 12:59.18 | [Wobin] | The targetunit("mouseover") needs to occur -after- I find the target |
| 12:59.19 | Kebinusan | evl, what you need is an addon to force people to re-assist |
| 12:59.20 | oxman | its very hard to know what we can do and what we can't do |
| 12:59.32 | [Wobin] | oxman: Aye, that's my complaint atm |
| 12:59.40 | evl | Well problem is we don't get to the snakes before there's 5 secs left to enrage |
| 12:59.51 | evl | could it have something to do with positiong of fankriss and thus dps? |
| 12:59.53 | Kebinusan | evl, good dps :-) |
| 12:59.58 | evl | we're currently in the middle of the room |
| 13:00.08 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 13:00.14 | [Wobin] | I wonder if you can hook TargetUnit? =P |
| 13:00.29 | oxman | you can but can't change the value of the function |
| 13:00.30 | oxman | :) |
| 13:00.33 | oxman | (i think its that) |
| 13:00.36 | [Wobin] | value? |
| 13:00.40 | oxman | can't change the value of argument |
| 13:00.41 | oxman | sorry |
| 13:00.41 | oxman | :p |
| 13:00.51 | [Wobin] | well if it's set to mouseover before combat? |
| 13:00.58 | oxman | so i think no problem |
| 13:00.58 | oxman | :) |
| 13:01.01 | [Wobin] | since mouseover is the one that's changing |
| 13:01.04 | [Wobin] | internally |
| 13:01.13 | oxman | ask Slouken :p |
| 13:01.18 | oxman | but I see no problem to do that |
| 13:01.19 | [Wobin] | man, I still don't understand how it all works =( |
| 13:01.29 | oxman | I think something like that : |
| 13:01.36 | oxman | for example, you can hook UseAction |
| 13:01.51 | oxman | but you can't change the argument of useaction |
| 13:01.53 | [Wobin] | but how does it know you're changing the argument? |
| 13:01.55 | oxman | the argument slot i mean |
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| 13:01.58 | oxman | argument onself maybe |
| 13:02.09 | [Wobin] | Especially with TargetUnit |
| 13:02.16 | oxman | Its not hard to have a fonction call before your hook and after your hook |
| 13:02.21 | oxman | then see if you've change the argument |
| 13:02.29 | oxman | think like the Ace2 framework |
| 13:02.35 | oxman | Ace2 can know if you change the argument in a hook |
| 13:02.41 | FISKER_Q | evl |
| 13:02.43 | oxman | it only need to put a hook before your, and after your |
| 13:02.48 | oxman | so Slouken can do that also in wow ;) |
| 13:02.52 | FISKER_Q | what are you doing to the snakes (in a temple)? |
| 13:02.52 | [Wobin] | That's a lot of hooking |
| 13:03.00 | oxman | its the basic principe :) |
| 13:03.10 | evl | Well first we pull fankriss to middle |
| 13:03.14 | evl | two groups taking bugs |
| 13:03.20 | evl | when mad dyps util we get a snake warning |
| 13:03.23 | [Wobin] | I'd like to pick Slouken's brain, but I don't want to bother him in in Wowilounge =( |
| 13:03.28 | evl | problem there is that the snake isn't at the DPS group fast enough |
| 13:03.38 | evl | so we end up watering out our dps cause of running |
| 13:03.55 | FISKER_Q | dps group? |
| 13:03.58 | FISKER_Q | You mean the raid? |
| 13:04.02 | evl | Yes |
| 13:04.09 | evl | ofc rogues stunlocking have the hardest time |
| 13:04.18 | oxman | haste whats the name of experience addon for fubar on your screen ? experience_fu ? |
| 13:04.21 | evl | Isn't there a way to get the snakes to the DPS group faster? |
| 13:04.24 | FISKER_Q | Like we just have fankriss in the middle |
| 13:04.25 | evl | like having a hunter pull em |
| 13:04.29 | FISKER_Q | Then we go over, kill the snake |
| 13:04.34 | FISKER_Q | then we go back kil fankriss |
| 13:04.56 | FISKER_Q | make sure your rogues isn't just trying to finish a combo |
| 13:04.57 | evl | Yes but we can't kill the snakes fast enough because rogues can't run fast enough over to the snake |
| 13:05.00 | haste | oxman: FuXPFu |
| 13:05.11 | haste | oxman: sligthyl modified so it will show ontop even down there :p |
| 13:05.12 | FISKER_Q | never been a problem for us |
| 13:05.18 | FISKER_Q | and we're keeping it the same place as you do |
| 13:05.36 | FISKER_Q | The only one that is slighty slower of getting to is the one spawning from the place you came(bug train) |
| 13:05.37 | oxman | ok haste, i will do the same modification ^^ |
| 13:05.42 | [Wobin] | haste: you could change the no/restxp to the same colour as your bar =P |
| 13:06.04 | haste | [Wobin]: hmm? |
| 13:06.11 | [Wobin] | what changes were made? |
| 13:06.11 | evl | Guess we just need more people dypsing like a motherfucker |
| 13:06.21 | evl | and ofc mages should stop aoe'ing bugs and go snakes |
| 13:07.24 | FISKER_Q | err |
| 13:07.31 | FISKER_Q | we don't aoe bugs |
| 13:07.50 | FISKER_Q | The bugs despawn when they get to the 3 spawn wave |
| 13:07.52 | evl | you hide them away in a HotPocket? |
| 13:08.02 | FISKER_Q | So you can never have more than 3 waves of bugs at the tanks |
| 13:08.07 | FISKER_Q | and the tanks hold them with demo shout |
| 13:08.09 | evl | so just let the tanks keep em |
| 13:08.13 | FISKER_Q | yup |
| 13:08.15 | evl | and some healing |
| 13:08.21 | FISKER_Q | everyone else focusses on fankriss and the snakes |
| 13:08.26 | FISKER_Q | healing of course :) |
| 13:08.32 | FISKER_Q | but in tanking they shouldn't do much damage |
| 13:09.32 | FISKER_Q | mages can aoe if a tank loose his bugs though |
| 13:09.40 | FISKER_Q | but normally shouldn't happen |
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| 13:11.38 | FISKER_Q | btw if you have warriors left you can make them intercept stun when the snakes come |
| 13:11.43 | FISKER_Q | that should save some casters |
| 13:11.58 | FISKER_Q | Also if he's low on hp, you can just zerg him |
| 13:12.02 | haste | [Wobin]: Only change was made was to prevent it from placing the blue border on the bottom, even tho' it's the top fubar |
| 13:12.16 | FISKER_Q | full raid at ~30ish% should be able to take him down as long as snakes aren't enrage |
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| 13:12.38 | [Wobin] | bottom? |
| 13:14.41 | phyber | evl: we kill Fankriss every week and this week, for some reason we always ended up with 3 enraged snakes at 13% |
| 13:14.54 | phyber | I think Blizzard made him deep breath more :( |
| 13:15.05 | evl | We also got 3 snakes last try |
| 13:15.10 | evl | Pretty impossible with our gear |
| 13:16.36 | phyber | we usually do something like the following: start nuking Fankriss almost right away, as soon as snakes come start DPSing them. at ~50%, bring all the adds into Fankriss for some AoE action. and continue as normal from then. |
| 13:16.47 | phyber | if adds get too much again, maybe bring them in one more time. |
| 13:16.56 | phyber | but this week just sucked ;) |
| 13:16.58 | haste | [Wobin]: I can give you a screen with the SVN version of FuXPFu |
| 13:17.30 | haste | [Wobin]: oh wait, you actually added it :3 |
| 13:18.00 | FISKER_Q | evl i agree on that one |
| 13:18.08 | FISKER_Q | 3 snakes = wipe |
| 13:18.23 | FISKER_Q | we can perhaps sustain one of those, but once we got them 3 in a row |
| 13:18.39 | FISKER_Q | 9 snakes before we had even gotten him to 90% |
| 13:18.55 | evl | from where do the snakes spawn? |
| 13:18.57 | phyber | ouch |
| 13:19.00 | evl | Is it completely random? |
| 13:19.06 | FISKER_Q | It's random |
| 13:19.08 | phyber | random places arond him |
| 13:19.13 | FISKER_Q | but there are 3 paths as far as i know |
| 13:19.50 | phyber | s/arond/around/ |
| 13:20.03 | FISKER_Q | There's 2 behind him and 1 at the bugtrain |
| 13:20.05 | FISKER_Q | as far as i know |
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| 13:22.17 | Mikma | wabbitbabble |
| 13:22.35 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13531 10Mendeleev/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:22.35 | CIA-17 | Mendeleev: |
| 13:22.35 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:22.35 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:22.35 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:22.44 | DarkImakuni | elemental invasions? |
| 13:23.23 | mjc | what about them |
| 13:23.37 | DarkImakuni | who were they again? :P |
| 13:23.38 | FISKER_Q | btw vhaarr where does PT get the droprates from? |
| 13:23.45 | mjc | anti-farmer techniques |
| 13:23.46 | vhaarr | Don't ask me :) |
| 13:24.01 | mjc | DarkImakuni: they spawn random elementals in random places at random times |
| 13:24.14 | mjc | good way to get rid of farmers at lake kel'theril and whatnot |
| 13:24.19 | mjc | http://www.wowwiki.com/Elemental_Invasions |
| 13:25.12 | DarkImakuni | ah them :P |
| 13:25.39 | DarkImakuni | Baron Charr mauled me once :( |
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| 13:31.26 | JoshBorke | morning! |
| 13:33.06 | DarkImakuni | afternoon Josh |
| 13:36.03 | [Wobin] | evening Dark |
| 13:38.08 | [Ammo] | Fisker: the drop rates are datamined from wow.allakhazam.com ;) |
| 13:42.42 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 13:42.56 | [Wobin] | I'm wondering how much of plowking to scrap and how much to try and reincorporate |
| 13:43.11 | [Ammo] | start from scratch |
| 13:43.13 | [Wobin] | The basic framework is relatively sound |
| 13:43.27 | [Wobin] | It's just the graphical implementation |
| 13:43.33 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13532 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.lua MendeleevCats.lua MendeleevGlobals.lua): Mendeleev: Crafted by, factions and sources use AL. |
| 13:44.39 | [Wobin] | [Ammo]: Heh, I don't know if I have time to start from scratch =) |
| 13:46.59 | axxo | !notes Mendeleev |
| 13:46.59 | SVNBot | Mendeleev Notes: Mendeleev shows information in the tooltip based on PeriodicTable || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Mendeleev |
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| 13:53.55 | DarkImakuni | How do I teach purl keywords which already has stuff assigned to it? i.e. like ~welcome? |
| 13:55.13 | DarkImakuni | do I do 'purl, this is also <reply> this'? |
| 13:55.31 | mjc | think so |
| 13:55.34 | [Wobin] | no |
| 13:55.39 | mjc | ~explain wobin |
| 13:55.47 | [Wobin] | you say 'purl, no X is Y' |
| 13:55.57 | mjc | I think he wants multiple |
| 13:56.02 | mjc | ~explain kergoth |
| 13:56.15 | mjc | purl, explain kergoth |
| 13:56.21 | mjc | it hates me. |
| 13:56.26 | JoshBorke | purl, hug mjc |
| 13:56.28 | purl | ACTION hugs mjc |
| 13:56.37 | [Wobin] | then you go '~literal X' then 'no, purl X is (what was originally in X|Y) |
| 13:56.37 | DarkImakuni | ~emulate DarkImakuni |
| 13:56.38 | purl | Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P, or <reply> Me and Tem work well together. Tem breaks WoW, I break the addons! |
| 13:56.47 | DarkImakuni | doh |
| 13:56.51 | JoshBorke | ~literal welcome |
| 13:56.52 | purl | "welcome" is "<reply>thx||<reply>It's great to be here!" |
| 13:56.52 | mjc | ~emulate kergoth |
| 13:56.53 | purl | Hmm... I know I was supposed to be doing something. I wonder what it was. |
| 13:57.09 | mjc | ~emulate kergoth |
| 13:57.10 | purl | Hmm... I know I was supposed to be doing something. I wonder what it was. |
| 13:57.14 | mjc | bah |
| 13:57.24 | mjc | ~literal kergoth |
| 13:57.25 | purl | "kergoth" is "Chris Larson, an open source developer currently working for Openedhand Ltd (o-hand.com), remotely, from AZ. Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSlib. Often the resident BOFH, and often an ass. Newbies and the clueless beware." |
| 13:57.38 | mjc | ~literal emulate kergoth |
| 13:57.39 | purl | "emulate kergoth" is "<action> hmms. || <action> wields a mean spiked metal cluebat || <reply> Why don't you go away, and come back when you've got some clue? || <action> hacks on OZ, OE, bitbake, and other projects. || <reply> Hmm... I know I was supposed to be doing something. I wonder what it was." |
| 13:57.45 | mjc | there |
| 13:57.47 | mjc | hahah |
| 13:58.47 | DarkImakuni | ~literal emulate DarkImakuni |
| 13:58.48 | purl | "emulate darkimakuni" is "<reply> Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P, or <reply> Me and Tem work well together. Tem breaks WoW, I break the addons!" |
| 13:58.56 | JoshBorke | wrong :-P |
| 13:58.59 | JoshBorke | ~emulate DarkImakuni |
| 13:59.00 | purl | Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P, or <reply> Me and Tem work well together. Tem breaks WoW, I break the addons! |
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| 13:59.15 | DarkImakuni | I broke purl :( |
| 13:59.20 | JoshBorke | no purl, emulate DarkImakuni is ""<reply> Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P, or <reply> Me and Tem work well together. Tem breaks WoW, I break the addons! |
| 13:59.30 | JoshBorke | no purl, emulate DarkImakuni is "<reply> Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P|| <reply> Me and Tem work well together. Tem breaks WoW, I break the addons! |
| 13:59.38 | mjc | blah. |
| 13:59.41 | JoshBorke | ~emulate DarkImakuni |
| 13:59.42 | purl | Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P, or <reply> Me and Tem work well together. Tem breaks WoW, I break the addons! |
| 13:59.48 | DarkImakuni | lol |
| 13:59.52 | JoshBorke | no purl, emulate DarkImakuni is <reply> Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P|| <reply> Me and Tem work well together. Tem breaks WoW, I break the addons! |
| 14:00.07 | JoshBorke | purl, hug me |
| 14:00.08 | purl | ACTION hugs joshborke |
| 14:00.18 | JoshBorke | purl, emulate DarkImakuni is <reply> Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P || <reply> Me and Tem work well together. Tem breaks WoW, I break the addons! |
| 14:00.19 | purl | ...but emulate darkimakuni is already something else... |
| 14:00.26 | JoshBorke | no purl, emulate DarkImakuni is <reply> Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P || <reply> Me and Tem work well together. Tem breaks WoW, I break the addons! |
| 14:00.34 | JoshBorke | ~botslap |
| 14:00.35 | purl | OUCH! That hurt, joshborke! |
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| 14:00.52 | DarkImakuni | purl, forget emulate DarkImakuni |
| 14:01.59 | DarkImakuni | no, emulate DarkImakuni is <reply> Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P || <reply> Me and Tem work well together. Tem breaks WoW, I break the addons! |
| 14:02.01 | [Wobin] | hey, anyone a rogue? |
| 14:02.26 | DarkImakuni | ~emulate DarkImakuni |
| 14:02.27 | purl | Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P, or <reply> Me and Tem work well together. Tem breaks WoW, I break the addons! |
| 14:02.33 | DarkImakuni | I give up |
| 14:02.42 | JoshBorke | purl, forgote emulate DarkImakuni |
| 14:02.43 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 14:02.46 | JoshBorke | purl, forget emulate DarkImakuni |
| 14:02.46 | purl | JoshBorke: i didn't have anything called 'emulate darkimakuni ' to forget |
| 14:02.52 | broadcast_ | lol |
| 14:03.03 | JoshBorke | ~literal emulate DarkImakuni |
| 14:03.04 | purl | "emulate darkimakuni" is "<reply> Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P, or <reply> Me and Tem work well together. Tem breaks WoW, I break the addons!" |
| 14:03.10 | JoshBorke | no purl, emulate DarkImakuni is <reply> Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P || <reply> Me and Tem work well together. Tem breaks WoW, I break the addons! |
| 14:03.12 | [Wobin] | purl no, emulate DarkImakuni is (<reply> Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P || <reply> Me and Tem work well together. Tem breaks WoW, I break the addons!) |
| 14:03.13 | purl | [Wobin]: okay |
| 14:03.19 | Slayman | make it :no, purl DarkImakuni .... |
| 14:03.20 | [Wobin] | ~emulate DarkImakuni |
| 14:03.21 | purl | i heard emulate darkimakuni is (<reply> Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P |
| 14:03.26 | JoshBorke | blah |
| 14:03.29 | DarkImakuni | lol |
| 14:03.37 | mjc | e fuckin nough :P |
| 14:03.40 | mjc | use whispers |
| 14:03.40 | Slayman | ~emulate Slayman |
| 14:03.50 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 14:03.51 | Slayman | nothing can emulate me! |
| 14:04.13 | mjc | Slayman: because you don't do anything |
| 14:04.20 | [Wobin] | there |
| 14:04.23 | [Wobin] | ~emulate DarkImakuni |
| 14:04.24 | purl | Push it to the limit. Something must be wrong. I never commit a working addon! :P |
| 14:04.32 | DarkImakuni | :D |
| 14:04.36 | [Wobin] | ~emulate DarkImakuni |
| 14:04.37 | purl | Me and Tem work well together. Tem breaks WoW, I break the addons! |
| 14:04.41 | [Wobin] | done =P |
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| 14:05.22 | mjc | ~emulate slayman |
| 14:05.23 | purl | nothing can emulate me! |
| 14:05.31 | DarkImakuni | lol |
| 14:05.32 | Slayman | oh noes |
| 14:05.37 | [Wobin] | ~emulate ckknight |
| 14:05.39 | purl | your mom's <foo> |
| 14:05.48 | mjc | ~emulate ckknight |
| 14:05.49 | purl | your mom's <foo> |
| 14:05.53 | mjc | lame |
| 14:05.57 | [Wobin] | bah |
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| 14:05.59 | Slayman | ~clad |
| 14:06.00 | purl | clad is, like, God! |
| 14:06.03 | [Wobin] | ~literal emulate ckknight |
| 14:06.04 | purl | "emulate ckknight" is "(<action> quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))|<reply>f*ck you, guy|<reply>You know why? Because you touch yourself at night|<reply> your mom's <foo>|<reply> file a bug.)" |
| 14:06.07 | Gordos | hi there |
| 14:06.09 | [Wobin] | I like the first one |
| 14:06.19 | Gngsk | it's funny cuz it's true |
| 14:06.26 | Gordos | how can i download the files on www.wowace.com? |
| 14:06.41 | DarkImakuni | www.wowace.com/files |
| 14:06.43 | Gngsk | click the link that says 'addons - beta' |
| 14:06.46 | Slayman | www.wowace.com/files |
| 14:06.51 | Gordos | ok thx guys |
| 14:06.55 | DarkImakuni | ~emulate Tekkub |
| 14:06.56 | purl | /slap I don't want the shoddy wistletoe! |
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| 14:07.15 | Slayman | ~emulate purl |
| 14:07.16 | purl | ACTION tries to look like itself and fails horribly. |
| 14:07.29 | [Wobin] | any rogues have any opinions on these builds? http://ctprofiles.net/4019669 |
| 14:07.32 | DarkImakuni | lol |
| 14:07.50 | [Wobin] | (mostly the sword and mace ones, the dagger one is less so, since my latency sucks for a positioning rogue) |
| 14:07.56 | Slayman | Item or talent Wobin? |
| 14:08.01 | [Wobin] | mostly talent |
| 14:08.08 | [Wobin] | since items are.. well.. all I have =) |
| 14:08.15 | [Wobin] | And not pvp |
| 14:08.19 | [Wobin] | mostly end game content |
| 14:08.28 | Slayman | purpose? Pure PvE? farming raiding? |
| 14:08.29 | [Wobin] | not really the 40mans either |
| 14:08.35 | [Wobin] | farming would be nice |
| 14:08.48 | [Wobin] | My raiding conglomerate is doing ZG and AQ20 |
| 14:09.06 | [Wobin] | I got into a MC once =P |
| 14:09.08 | Slayman | Imp SS is a must if u use slow weaponry |
| 14:09.49 | [Wobin] | for swords, I have Mirah's song and Dal'rends, so 1.80 each |
| 14:10.01 | Slayman | why Opportunity and imp maces 2gether? completely senseless |
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| 14:10.46 | Slayman | u can't ambush nor backstab all u can is garrote, but u'll use CS trust me |
| 14:10.52 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 14:10.58 | [Wobin] | I'm not sure why that's there =P |
| 14:11.08 | [Wobin] | Oh |
| 14:11.12 | [Wobin] | This is my starting build from 1 |
| 14:11.20 | [Wobin] | so it's bound to have dodgy choices at the beginning |
| 14:11.30 | [Wobin] | better to put it in MoD? |
| 14:11.43 | notMusic | MoD is nice for soloing quests at lower levels |
| 14:11.44 | [Wobin] | I needed something to get me to the next level of skills |
| 14:11.49 | notMusic | Lower chance to get caught |
| 14:11.56 | [Wobin] | Not really an issue now, though |
| 14:12.01 | Slayman | if u want to go down subtlety, and not using daggers, it's a definitive YES |
| 14:12.02 | notMusic | If you're starting from scratch |
| 14:12.03 | notMusic | Ahh |
| 14:12.11 | [Wobin] | I'm at 60 now |
| 14:12.17 | notMusic | Hm |
| 14:12.29 | notMusic | I'd take MoD for stealth runs, etc |
| 14:12.33 | [Wobin] | So Opportunity is more of a stepping stone |
| 14:12.34 | notMusic | Opp. is kinda useless :p |
| 14:12.57 | [Wobin] | My problem is, though, macespec is great for grinding and the lower end 5man endgames |
| 14:13.04 | [Wobin] | but not so much for raids |
| 14:13.30 | [Wobin] | ie, if we have a crappy tank in scholo (and god have there been some crappy tanks) I can basically keep the party alive just due to the stunning |
| 14:13.31 | Chippen|TaE | isnt macespec kinda good now with the added +skill? |
| 14:13.52 | [Wobin] | Msot of the >20man mobs are immune to the stun effect |
| 14:14.01 | Slayman | with the new mace talent it's just a minor issue if u specc swords or maces, as there are great weapons in both categories |
| 14:14.09 | notMusic | Still no good maces around, at least the instances/raids he's doing |
| 14:14.14 | [Wobin] | Slayman: Only in Naxx etc =) |
| 14:14.23 | [Wobin] | I'd give an arm for a servo arm =) |
| 14:14.28 | Slayman | ok |
| 14:14.29 | notMusic | Yeah :/ |
| 14:14.41 | Slayman | start with Spineshatter for example :D |
| 14:14.42 | Kalamadi | [Wobin], why not aim for a Sand Polished Hammer? |
| 14:14.48 | [Wobin] | AQ40? |
| 14:14.52 | notMusic | 20 |
| 14:14.52 | Kalamadi | AQ20 |
| 14:14.54 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 14:15.01 | [Wobin] | We're not too far into AQ20 |
| 14:15.02 | Kalamadi | Drops from Ossirian the Unscarred |
| 14:15.02 | [Ammo] | servoarm pwns |
| 14:15.05 | Kalamadi | Not sure on a droprate |
| 14:15.07 | [Wobin] | certainly not to a farming level |
| 14:15.10 | Slayman | not the best but a solid mace and the first encounter in BWL |
| 14:15.17 | [Wobin] | ah, BWL |
| 14:15.21 | [Wobin] | definitely a long way off |
| 14:15.35 | Slayman | what else |
| 14:15.41 | Slayman | ... |
| 14:15.47 | [Wobin] | we just don't have the membership/gear for 40 man effectively =\ |
| 14:15.54 | Slayman | ain't there a mace in ZG ? |
| 14:15.55 | notMusic | Isn't there a mace from the CH quest? |
| 14:16.04 | notMusic | The venom sacs quest |
| 14:16.05 | [Wobin] | That's a healing one =) |
| 14:16.07 | Kalamadi | notMusic, that's a healing mace |
| 14:16.12 | notMusic | :( |
| 14:16.19 | pastamancer | my rogue uses a healing mace :( |
| 14:16.30 | Slayman | and i think the rogues CH Set doesn't contain a mace either |
| 14:16.34 | [Wobin] | I used the one that gave back mana from MAuradon for a bit =) |
| 14:16.51 | [Wobin] | I felt really guilty each time it procced =P |
| 14:16.54 | notMusic | Haha |
| 14:17.03 | notMusic | Uh, what about the blue one? :P |
| 14:17.05 | notMusic | BoE |
| 14:17.15 | [Wobin] | where from? |
| 14:17.20 | notMusic | World drop |
| 14:17.29 | [Wobin] | mass of mcgowan? |
| 14:17.32 | Slayman | well on with ur talents, Sleight of Hand is a bad choice, Elusivness are points better spent |
| 14:17.33 | notMusic | Yeah :P |
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| 14:17.38 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:17.38 | notMusic | And off hand the hand of timmy |
| 14:17.52 | [Wobin] | I can't afford Mass =\ |
| 14:17.59 | notMusic | >:( |
| 14:18.00 | [Wobin] | but I did buy the Bludstone |
| 14:18.09 | notMusic | A friend farmed it, sorta |
| 14:18.15 | [Wobin] | but the bonechill is better I think maybe |
| 14:18.18 | notMusic | They camped the DM arena |
| 14:18.33 | [Wobin] | isn't it worlddrop? =P |
| 14:18.41 | notMusic | Yeah |
| 14:18.46 | [Wobin] | I got the Spaulders of the Unseen from the arena =) |
| 14:18.48 | [Ammo] | yes, but drops often from the DM arena bosses |
| 14:18.48 | notMusic | But the boss always drops 2 blue BoEs |
| 14:19.05 | notMusic | Yeah, I've seen those drop :) |
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| 14:19.19 | Slayman | Setup and Serrated Blades: Yes Imp. SAP: no 1 Hemo, 1 Prep, then u don't really need SS |
| 14:19.31 | notMusic | Iunno :P At least you're not going for fist weapons |
| 14:19.31 | [Wobin] | Ah, I picked that mostly for instance running |
| 14:19.34 | [Wobin] | hehe |
| 14:19.35 | notMusic | I'd go for swords |
| 14:19.39 | [Wobin] | I so totally considered that =) |
| 14:19.50 | pastamancer | I love mace spec for solo farming |
| 14:19.56 | [Wobin] | I was thinking of farming LBRS for two of those fist weapons |
| 14:20.00 | [Wobin] | That do knockdown |
| 14:20.17 | Slayman | the spider's thingy? |
| 14:20.26 | [Wobin] | nah, it's off a rare mob |
| 14:20.31 | [Wobin] | lemme see if I can find it |
| 14:22.22 | [Wobin] | http://www.thottbot.com/?i=25677 |
| 14:22.23 | notMusic | Also, I'd put the point in weap. expertise into prep :p |
| 14:22.26 | [Wobin] | hurd smasher =) |
| 14:22.29 | notMusic | If you're going straight maces |
| 14:23.14 | [Wobin] | That's the thing, as much as I like maces... raiding eventually =\ |
| 14:23.41 | [Wobin] | oh, I should have definietly thought of that |
| 14:23.57 | Slayman | u might aim for the Fist Weapon Set off ZG they are kinda cool |
| 14:24.18 | [Wobin] | yeah. Thekals =) |
| 14:24.27 | Slayman | and Arlokks |
| 14:24.27 | [Wobin] | hm, why 1 hemo then prep? |
| 14:25.10 | Slayman | well prep is one of the best spells in that tree if not the best, u can't go down there and then just not put a point it |
| 14:25.13 | Slayman | *in |
| 14:25.26 | [Wobin] | oh =) |
| 14:25.30 | notMusic | Yeah, but if you're gonna raid and go swords, might aswell respec for 5/5 swords :) |
| 14:25.33 | [Wobin] | I thought you meant as a starter =)) |
| 14:25.43 | [Wobin] | sob, I love my maces =) |
| 14:25.52 | [Wobin] | I'm so torn =P |
| 14:25.56 | notMusic | Haha |
| 14:26.03 | Slayman | and with not spamming SS u can spam Hemo, dmg difference is minimal, but hemo costs 10 energy less then unspecced SS |
| 14:26.09 | [Wobin] | aye |
| 14:26.23 | [Wobin] | is hemo with swords effective though? |
| 14:26.36 | Slayman | with high attack power it is |
| 14:26.48 | [Wobin] | I must say, I've found, that being macespec/hemo I become more of a support rogue |
| 14:26.56 | Slayman | my rogue did about 1000k hemo on clothies |
| 14:27.03 | Slayman | i meant 1k |
| 14:27.06 | [Wobin] | stun/KS/hemo |
| 14:27.19 | [Wobin] | hm, AP |
| 14:27.29 | [Wobin] | That's so armour specific =\ |
| 14:27.39 | [Wobin] | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.06 | Slayman | http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?1898800 |
| 14:28.07 | Slayman | :D |
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| 14:29.15 | [Wobin] | that amount is insane =P |
| 14:29.25 | Slayman | amount of what? |
| 14:29.28 | [Wobin] | AP |
| 14:29.38 | Slayman | normal 1k unbuffed |
| 14:29.47 | Slayman | should see him buffed ouch |
| 14:29.53 | Slayman | 1.6lk |
| 14:30.20 | Slayman | that's not the point, point is: u need a respecc |
| 14:30.28 | [Wobin] | hehe aye |
| 14:31.09 | [Wobin] | I might stick to maces for a bit. In regards to silithus and farming and such, macestun proc is so very very useful |
| 14:31.19 | Slayman | while talking, u have 5 points in maces |
| 14:31.27 | Slayman | and 1 points in wep expertise? |
| 14:31.29 | Slayman | WHY is that? |
| 14:31.36 | [Wobin] | random point mashing =) |
| 14:31.50 | [Wobin] | This build wasn't planned in -any- way |
| 14:31.54 | Slayman | -> Prep is the target of that point |
| 14:31.58 | [Wobin] | aye |
| 14:32.37 | Slayman | U'll see especially farming and being harassed by horde prep comes in handy |
| 14:32.55 | [Wobin] | I'm on a RP server |
| 14:32.56 | Slayman | or overpull, add, all sorts of trouble |
| 14:33.00 | [Wobin] | so PvP is less of an issue |
| 14:33.14 | [Wobin] | but I know the value of prep now =) |
| 14:33.17 | Slayman | RP PvE ? |
| 14:33.27 | [Wobin] | aye |
| 14:33.29 | [Wobin] | Argent Dawn |
| 14:33.43 | [Wobin] | You Blackrock folks come harass us when BR is down =) |
| 14:33.47 | Slayman | then it's against overpulls, elite adds etc. etc. |
| 14:33.59 | Slayman | this blackrock is EU |
| 14:34.16 | [Wobin] | ah =) Obviously far more mature about stuff, then =P |
| 14:34.27 | [Wobin] | We have a gnome guild called Blackrock down |
| 14:34.33 | mjc | heh |
| 14:34.33 | [Wobin] | who grief IF |
| 14:34.41 | [Wobin] | terribly |
| 14:34.45 | Slayman | i have my other twinks on another server so if BR is down i have 2 other 60s to play with |
| 14:34.47 | yacoob | blackhawk down? |
| 14:34.51 | [Wobin] | yeah =P |
| 14:34.59 | [Wobin] | They swarm IF and spam yells/etc |
| 14:35.15 | mjc | <Gnome Buffet> is our gnome guild on Magtheridon US |
| 14:35.25 | yacoob | Luckily, for such occasions I have my handy tauren-in-a-can. You spray, it stomps gnomes out. |
| 14:35.32 | [Wobin] | hehe |
| 14:35.41 | [Wobin] | Alas for being a PvE server |
| 14:35.44 | Slayman | you should have seen Magtheridon (EU) on the night Kel went down, Orgrimmar was bathed in lvl 1 alts |
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| 14:35.57 | mjc | heh |
| 14:36.02 | mjc | EU is for noobs |
| 14:36.15 | Slayman | our service is noobs |
| 14:36.26 | [Wobin] | your forums is noobs |
| 14:36.27 | Slayman | but we have our shared of victories |
| 14:36.29 | mjc | Mikk: I wrote an addon finally :P |
| 14:36.31 | notMusic | EU has way better costumer service :( |
| 14:36.33 | yacoob | mjc, careful, or angry whale will sit on you. |
| 14:36.39 | [Wobin] | ~whalesit mjc |
| 14:36.44 | [Wobin] | bah |
| 14:36.55 | mjc | ~whaleshit mjc |
| 14:36.57 | mjc | double bah |
| 14:37.04 | [Wobin] | ~whalecrit mjc |
| 14:37.05 | purl | ACTION crits mjc with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. mjc dies |
| 14:37.12 | axxo | if you barely killed huhuran, can you kill anything in naxx? |
| 14:37.28 | Azurewrath | notMusic: the only "customer service" we get is: "Delete your WTF and WDB." |
| 14:37.30 | mjc | huhu is a cockblock resistance fight |
| 14:37.30 | Slayman | huhu is just natureresi |
| 14:37.34 | DarkImakuni | rofl mjc :D |
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| 14:37.51 | Slayman | no skill no tactics just a bunch of ppl with 300+ resi |
| 14:37.52 | yacoob | Azurewrath, does US get something more? |
| 14:37.54 | axxo | we didn't get past the trash to twins after :p |
| 14:37.59 | yacoob | "Oh yes, and reinstall wow" |
| 14:37.59 | Slayman | ouro is way easier |
| 14:38.03 | [Wobin] | yacoob: That's about it =P |
| 14:38.21 | Azurewrath | yacoob: dunno, at least they get some more blue answers in the forums.. at least thats what i believe ;) |
| 14:38.31 | axxo | my guild: 'we going to take a break and spend 4days in naxx', i think ppl are gonna be really frustrated by the end of the week |
| 14:38.43 | Slayman | you have a SLOUKEN, i would kill for having a Slouken in EU |
| 14:38.49 | [Wobin] | That's true |
| 14:38.55 | [Wobin] | Slouken is the best |
| 14:39.04 | yacoob | Azurewrath, frankly speaking, I'd =like to have 'yes, we listen to you' instead of 'yes, we reply to you' |
| 14:39.25 | yacoob | I have Hadouken. *grin* |
| 14:39.26 | Slayman | axxo go for the Instructor first he is a very very easy encounter, and less item dependant then any other |
| 14:39.48 | [Ammo] | anub'rekhan is not equip based either |
| 14:39.51 | [Ammo] | nor is faerlina |
| 14:40.04 | [Ammo] | maexxna requires 1 (2 is better) good geared tanks |
| 14:40.12 | mjc | I have problems getting a lot of mods to function in classic library mode |
| 14:40.30 | Slayman | well with anoub u need some fairly well equiped healer or u need many healer |
| 14:40.38 | mjc | anyone have any ideas about how to troubleshoot? I get tons of onupdate errors so I really can't debug them |
| 14:40.47 | [Ammo] | slayman what for? |
| 14:40.52 | Zinwrath | do you know... who I am? |
| 14:40.52 | [Ammo] | slayman we use 3 healers on the MT |
| 14:40.56 | [Ammo] | that's good enough |
| 14:40.59 | yacoob | Ahem. Just watching the movie :D |
| 14:41.04 | [Ammo] | one hunter who knows what they're doing |
| 14:41.42 | [Wobin] | mjc: Make sure that all the addons you have, have the OptDeps of the libraries they need |
| 14:41.44 | Slayman | i don't know how many of us heal the tank, he's not the problem, u need to heal up the impaled ppl |
| 14:42.48 | Slayman | before anything kills them. We had our share of Problems with Anub trust me, but the Instructor went down 4th attempt or so |
| 14:43.30 | mjc | ace 1.3.1 has ## OptionalDeps: myAddOns |
| 14:43.31 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:43.59 | DarkImakuni | myAddOns is an ingame addon list |
| 14:44.15 | Slayman | wobin |
| 14:44.17 | mjc | ah. |
| 14:44.25 | [Wobin] | Slayman: yes? |
| 14:44.32 | Slayman | Why are u wearing the fast weapon mainhand and the slow one offhand? |
| 14:44.44 | Slayman | Vice versa is correct |
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| 14:44.55 | mjc | Slayman: link? |
| 14:45.04 | Slayman | http://ctprofiles.net/4019669 |
| 14:45.33 | mjc | yeah that's bass-ackwards |
| 14:45.37 | [Wobin] | aha |
| 14:45.44 | [Wobin] | I get so confused over the normalisation |
| 14:46.01 | Slayman | u know, ur instant styles are used with MH weapon |
| 14:46.05 | Slayman | like SS or Hemo |
| 14:46.28 | Slayman | so u get a slow but damaging weapong there since those are instant anyway :D |
| 14:46.45 | [Wobin] | and a fast one to offset the misses |
| 14:46.53 | [Wobin] | (on the offhand) |
| 14:47.04 | [Wobin] | hm, I wonder where I heard about the opposite |
| 14:47.11 | [Wobin] | Cause I'm sure I did somewhere |
| 14:47.22 | Slayman | well with TBC offhand might matter now it's just additional poison applying and dmg |
| 14:48.16 | Slayman | as there are no styles enhancing ur OH weapon it's good to have a fast one so many hits occur, every OH hit can apply poison or stun |
| 14:48.41 | [Wobin] | hm, good point |
| 14:49.14 | [Wobin] | I need to buy more bankspace =P |
| 14:49.18 | [Wobin] | (and bagspace) |
| 14:49.23 | Slayman | so can any MH hit of course but Hemo/SS count as a hit too |
| 14:49.26 | [Wobin] | I hate being a packrat |
| 14:49.46 | Slayman | w8 till halloween there will be pumpkin bags dropping i believe rather many of them |
| 14:49.46 | [Wobin] | I can't bear to get rid of my Dog Whistle =P |
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| 14:52.04 | Slayman | is there anything else i can help u with wobin :D |
| 14:52.15 | [Wobin] | hehe you've been great =) |
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| 14:52.54 | yacoob | Slayman, wow services? :D |
| 14:53.28 | DarkImakuni | rofl Wobin :D |
| 14:53.32 | evl | So what's the deal with the new faction mount thing |
| 14:53.52 | Slayman | information about the game :D |
| 14:53.52 | evl | I'm a gnome and I want a nightsaber |
| 14:53.52 | evl | I have to be exalted and pay what |
| 14:53.52 | evl | To get the actual mount |
| 14:53.52 | Slayman | evl: well .. (this'll take some time) |
| 14:54.08 | yacoob | or money |
| 14:54.15 | yacoob | (cloth donations :) |
| 14:54.16 | evl | I've set aside 1000g for the purpose |
| 14:54.32 | Wobin | 900 for the mount? |
| 14:54.34 | Slayman | first of all U most get the riding skill of 150 for any epic mount (except PvP Rewards) which cost 900G |
| 14:54.35 | Wobin | er sorry |
| 14:54.36 | Wobin | for the skill |
| 14:54.51 | Wobin | Then you need the rep for th emount |
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| 14:55.10 | evl | I have epic mechanostrider |
| 14:55.14 | Slayman | after that u can already ride any epic mount! in order to buy one u need to get exalted with the faction of the mount u want to ride |
| 14:55.15 | evl | So I will need exalted + 90g? |
| 14:55.18 | Wobin | so you already have the skill =) |
| 14:55.25 | Slayman | then u can buy the epic mount for about 100G |
| 14:55.28 | evl | ok, sweet |
| 14:55.31 | evl | off to AH, runecloth |
| 14:55.34 | Wobin | hehe |
| 14:55.35 | evl | I need 515 stacks |
| 14:55.39 | Wobin | sob =) |
| 14:55.52 | Wobin | I'm trying for an epic ram |
| 14:56.00 | Slayman | get Exalted AV |
| 14:56.04 | Slayman | the ram is only 8G :D |
| 14:56.07 | Wobin | I suck at pvp |
| 14:56.26 | Kalamadi | Pally mount quest + AV ram = really cheap epic mount that costs 0 mana to summon |
| 14:56.30 | Slayman | then train a little in AV |
| 14:56.39 | Wobin | which one is AV? |
| 14:56.45 | Slayman | Alterac Valley |
| 14:56.47 | Wobin | (as in what is to be done in it?) |
| 14:56.48 | Kalamadi | The huge 40vs40 battle |
| 14:57.01 | yacoob | and quests |
| 14:57.02 | yacoob | and mines |
| 14:57.07 | yacoob | and walking fscking tree |
| 14:57.09 | Wobin | wtb latency less than 600ms |
| 14:57.15 | Slayman | ur side needs to kill Drek Thar on the other edge of that BG |
| 14:57.18 | Kalamadi | The mines are soloable now <3 |
| 14:57.36 | yacoob | Kalamadi, yeah, I entered it with lvl 51, go me! :D |
| 14:57.40 | Wobin | ah, haven't they changed it so it's basically a race to see which side can run to the other first and take out the boss? |
| 14:57.53 | yacoob | hint: graveyard |
| 14:57.57 | malreth | that's the alliance strat |
| 14:58.01 | Wobin | hehe |
| 14:58.01 | *** join/#wowace [POW]Arjor (n=arjor@bzq-179-108-77.cablep.bezeqint.net) |
| 14:58.09 | Kalamadi | yacoob: We all did for the leet quest weapon |
| 14:58.17 | malreth | for the horde, it's to their advantage to stall the race |
| 14:58.19 | Slayman | yes u can always quest in there at 60 it'll get u money and i believe a rather good XBow Statswise for rogues |
| 14:58.26 | Kalamadi | Ice Barbed Spear beats most LV60 weapons...and you can get it at 51 |
| 14:58.54 | Wobin | Exalted is such a climb though =) |
| 14:59.00 | Wobin | I'll give it a go =) |
| 14:59.02 | malreth | it's easy.. |
| 14:59.02 | Slayman | which is the absolute Truth |
| 14:59.08 | evl | Weeee |
| 14:59.12 | evl | only 420 stacks to go |
| 14:59.14 | malreth | it'll take a week or two if you take your time |
| 14:59.17 | evl | Any addon that buys runecloth off ah? |
| 14:59.17 | evl | :P |
| 14:59.18 | Kalamadi | I made Exalted in a week, but this is a PVP server, soo results may vary |
| 14:59.22 | malreth | but AV rep is the easiest one to get |
| 14:59.23 | Slayman | Wobin listen up: at revered u might buy a rather great rare Mace as ally ! |
| 14:59.29 | Wobin | woo |
| 14:59.34 | Kalamadi | Yeah, it's slow, too |
| 14:59.37 | Wobin | how do you mean rare? |
| 14:59.41 | Wobin | limited stock? |
| 14:59.42 | Slayman | blue |
| 14:59.45 | Wobin | sh |
| 14:59.46 | Wobin | ah |
| 14:59.47 | Wobin | duh =P |
| 14:59.57 | Kalamadi | "Superior", actually |
| 15:00.05 | yacoob | Kalamadi, I just realized I'm very casual player. What do you get that for? Just rep? |
| 15:00.07 | Slayman | but it's a very good mace, considering the hordes axe |
| 15:00.19 | Kalamadi | It's, what. 42.7 DPS, 2.7 delay, +15 STR |
| 15:00.29 | Wobin | what's it called? |
| 15:00.41 | Kalamadi | yacoob: You pick up the quest, win AV, bam! Done. |
| 15:00.51 | Slayman | Stormpike hammer or somesuch? |
| 15:01.10 | Kalamadi | I'm not certain... I have one, but I don't use it in favor of my Lava Dredger |
| 15:01.11 | yacoob | hm |
| 15:01.30 | CIA-17 | 03fleetfoot * r13538 10BigTrouble/ (BigTrouble.lua BigTroubleOptions.lua): |
| 15:01.30 | CIA-17 | BigTrouble: |
| 15:01.30 | CIA-17 | - Added option to set the delay of aimedshot |
| 15:01.33 | Slayman | I'm looking it up right now the Axe is called Frostbite |
| 15:01.36 | Wobin | hm, I still need the 900g to buy the riding skills =P |
| 15:01.49 | mjc | ~seen ckknight |
| 15:01.56 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 22m 40s ago, saying: 'pray out the Cosmos!'. |
| 15:02.00 | Slayman | Stormstrike Hammer |
| 15:02.00 | Kalamadi | Regardless, it's a great MH mace for rogues/warriors |
| 15:02.04 | Slayman | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=19104 |
| 15:02.13 | Wobin | The power of Ace compels you! The power of Ace compels you! |
| 15:02.16 | mjc | Kalamadi: get Empyrean Demolisher :P |
| 15:02.21 | *** join/#wowace fathom (n=fathom@fruit.cas.utulsa.edu) |
| 15:02.26 | Kalamadi | mjc: Who to the what now? |
| 15:02.31 | Slayman | it is and it's not just easy to get it's not that expensive either |
| 15:02.39 | Wobin | was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 22m 40s ago, saying: 'pray out the Cosmos!'. |
| 15:03.03 | mjc | Kalamadi: empyrean demolisher can be had in a couple weeks of kazzak pugs |
| 15:03.19 | Kalamadi | mjc: Oh, that. Why, though? I'm a bloody paladin; 1h + shield has no significant benefit over 2h :P |
| 15:03.31 | Slayman | it has Kalamadi |
| 15:03.36 | Slayman | ask any rogue |
| 15:03.56 | Kalamadi | If and when I PVP, I stun rogues who bother me and let my side steamroll them |
| 15:04.03 | mjc | Kalamadi: you weretalking about MH maces |
| 15:04.43 | Kalamadi | mjc: I was specifying who may be interested in Stormstrike Hammer |
| 15:04.51 | mjc | aha |
| 15:05.00 | Slayman | wobin u can alway pay some visits to Rend Blackhand and see if he drops a nice set of swords :D |
| 15:05.03 | mjc | emp. is almost as easy to get |
| 15:05.11 | Wobin | aye, I have the offhand atm =) |
| 15:05.21 | FISKER_Q | who was that n00b that made MH3 btw? |
| 15:05.26 | Slayman | which drops more often |
| 15:05.34 | mjc | Wobin: definitely easier to get empyrean demolisher than rend's swords. :P |
| 15:05.41 | Wobin | Kazzak, eh? |
| 15:05.45 | Slayman | mjc: true true |
| 15:05.46 | mjc | ayep |
| 15:06.26 | mjc | Wobin: best quickly had rogue weapon in the game outside of MC/BWL/whatnot, not so bad for wars either |
| 15:06.32 | vhaarr | mjc: Have you tested CG_OhNoes? I don't think it works. |
| 15:06.40 | mjc | vhaarr: works for me |
| 15:06.42 | Slayman | i don't know but today kazzak is piece of cake, 10 ppl are enough to gank him |
| 15:06.48 | vhaarr | mjc: Alright. |
| 15:06.57 | mjc | vhaarr: /oh percent 99 |
| 15:07.00 | mjc | vhaarr: to test |
| 15:07.24 | mjc | Slayman: 20 in greens, but the less people the better, pretty much |
| 15:07.34 | vhaarr | mjc: You should translate the 2 prints. |
| 15:07.40 | vhaarr | mjc: And indent properly. |
| 15:07.45 | mjc | yeah, I should |
| 15:08.06 | Slayman | i think i might initiate a 5man Onyxia in the near future |
| 15:08.14 | Slayman | it's fun |
| 15:08.46 | mjc | vhaarr: indenting is set the same way it's set at work. is there any way to get something to fix it for me? :P |
| 15:08.53 | mjc | I dont want to have to change my editor's settings |
| 15:08.59 | vhaarr | I can fix it |
| 15:09.10 | mjc | my editor'll put it back next time I hack on it |
| 15:09.25 | vhaarr | I'll just fix the localization as well then |
| 15:09.39 | mjc | I need to do more stuff to it |
| 15:09.50 | mjc | DarkImakuni: lame |
| 15:10.05 | DarkImakuni | :( |
| 15:11.06 | Slayman | priest warrior warlock mage hunter/rogue what do you think 5 man onyxia? |
| 15:11.33 | Slayman | lol i need to log in in order to get my blue dragon card. |
| 15:11.36 | Slayman | brb |
| 15:11.50 | mjc | anyone use wowbench? |
| 15:12.03 | DarkImakuni | I would if it worked |
| 15:13.02 | DarkImakuni | I keep getting this error everytime I run wow.exe: "wow.exe is not a valid Win32 application" |
| 15:13.10 | mjc | you don't run the wow.exe |
| 15:13.10 | Slayman | do we have a procc watch for FuBar ? |
| 15:13.55 | DarkImakuni | which one do I run then? :) |
| 15:14.10 | *** join/#wowace neale (n=rollo@204.50.77.42) |
| 15:14.27 | DarkImakuni | the readme says wow.exe and WoWWiki is dead |
| 15:15.01 | gxam | you lua wowbenh.lua |
| 15:15.10 | gxam | er, lua wowbench.lua |
| 15:16.18 | DarkImakuni | you mean drag that file onto lua.exe? |
| 15:18.43 | *** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@219-90-180-148.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 15:19.16 | JoshBorke | mjc: i have used wowbench |
| 15:19.48 | Kalamadi | And I'm in luck, too! Because I have cookies sitting on my counter, just waiting to be heated up and enjoyed alongside milk |
| 15:19.58 | Kalamadi | I await the channels impending envy |
| 15:20.28 | pastamancer | cookies are delicious |
| 15:21.04 | Kalamadi | Yes. Yes they are. |
| 15:21.23 | DarkImakuni | haha |
| 15:21.34 | Wobin | Huh |
| 15:21.44 | Wobin | You do know, don't you, that Cookies are a Sometimes Food? |
| 15:21.53 | Neale|Cookie | cookies are an anytime food |
| 15:21.55 | pastamancer | apparently some people need to be alone with their cookies |
| 15:22.01 | Wobin | It's true! |
| 15:22.08 | Wobin | They're words of advice from the Man himself! |
| 15:24.43 | Wobin | grah |
| 15:24.46 | Wobin | it's 1:30 |
| 15:24.48 | Wobin | Must sleep |
| 15:24.53 | Wobin | night all =) |
| 15:24.53 | neale | it's cookie time, wobin |
| 15:25.12 | neale | night night :) |
| 15:25.18 | DarkImakuni | nn |
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| 15:30.23 | Kalamadi | Now with added cookies! |
| 15:31.04 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13539 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua: |
| 15:31.04 | CIA-17 | ClosetGnome_OhNoes: |
| 15:31.04 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:31.05 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:31.05 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:32.21 | Kalamadi | Argh! Dog aggro! AWAY, protect the cookies! |
| 15:33.02 | Kalamadi | Alright, phew, that was close. |
| 15:33.02 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13540 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ClosetGnome_OhNoes.toc: ClosetGnome_OhNoes: Set svn:keywords. |
| 15:33.17 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/ClosetGnome_OhNoes |
| 15:33.25 | DarkImakuni | Smithers, release the hounds! |
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| 15:34.50 | fathom | is closetgnome sort of like acewardrobe? |
| 15:35.04 | neale | all reports of there being a closetgnome are false |
| 15:35.20 | fathom | :( |
| 15:35.30 | neale | closetgnomes are an endangered species and should be protected for the good of mankind |
| 15:35.52 | Kalamadi | ClosetGnomes are good with ketchup. |
| 15:35.56 | DarkImakuni | lol |
| 15:35.58 | fathom | heh |
| 15:36.13 | DarkImakuni | I have a pet gnome... |
| 15:36.31 | Kalamadi | "Slaves" aren't "pets." |
| 15:36.45 | DarkImakuni | my "pet" is not my "slave" :P |
| 15:36.46 | neale | hey, my closetgnome isn't a slave |
| 15:37.09 | Kalamadi | DarkImakuni: Your "slave" is a "pet," though. |
| 15:37.24 | neale | I give him plenty of Mount and MaxDamage every day, and even a bit of Nefarian when he's been good |
| 15:37.47 | Kalamadi | Soo... I made a banner for my guild's Joomla! portal |
| 15:37.54 | Kalamadi | Would any of you mind previewing it? |
| 15:38.01 | DarkImakuni | I keep my pet gnome stuffed in a box which is in my bank :) |
| 15:38.29 | Kalamadi | http://68.202.83.244/OotHG-Banner.png |
| 15:38.30 | *** join/#wowace eternally777 (n=justin@pool-71-254-222-148.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) |
| 15:38.53 | eternally777 | So what's the difference between the craft frame and the tradeskill frame? |
| 15:38.56 | DarkImakuni | Kalamadi: Error 403, unable to connect |
| 15:39.02 | Kalamadi | Dammit! |
| 15:39.51 | Kalamadi | I've gotten a new router, so I don't necessarily know what's wrong |
| 15:40.05 | DarkImakuni | ah, there we go :) |
| 15:40.08 | malreth | eternally777: one's used for tailoring/leatherwork/engineering/etc and the other is for Enchanting/Pet Training |
| 15:40.19 | DarkImakuni | pretty nice :) |
| 15:40.26 | malreth | but i forget which is for which |
| 15:40.34 | Kalamadi | I was really going for the "High Guard" look |
| 15:40.54 | DarkImakuni | reminds me of Sutton Hoo for some reason... :P |
| 15:41.16 | Kalamadi | Who's Sutton Hoo? |
| 15:41.25 | DarkImakuni | its a place in the UK |
| 15:41.40 | Kalamadi | Ah. That's a long way in that direction ---> |
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| 15:42.20 | evl | Any addon to simplify water making? |
| 15:42.21 | Xuerian | Kalamadi: What are you using to make it? |
| 15:42.25 | DarkImakuni | Am I the only person here who lives in the UK? :( |
| 15:42.28 | Kalamadi | Photoshop. |
| 15:42.28 | neale | magefu, evl |
| 15:42.39 | neale | i wish i lived in the uk, does that count? |
| 15:42.56 | DarkImakuni | probably not :P |
| 15:43.15 | Xuerian | Kalamadi: Try soft glow around the letters instead of faint, and bold the font. Give the soldier on the right a very faint and fairly wide outer glow. Add a very softened bevel/emboss to the letters if you haven't already. |
| 15:43.18 | pastamancer | ~seen maia |
| 15:43.31 | purl | maia <n=maia@84.112.137.81> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 46m 34s ago, saying: 'back in a bit.'. |
| 15:43.31 | neale | heh. my wife is english so i spend as much time as i can over there |
| 15:43.43 | neale | wow. long bit. :) |
| 15:43.50 | pastamancer | indeed |
| 15:44.02 | Kalamadi | Xuerian: I'll have to magic-wand the right soldier, since he's just a Lighten layer |
| 15:44.13 | Kalamadi | Xuerian: And the font can't be bolded :/ |
| 15:44.29 | Xuerian | o.O |
| 15:44.37 | Kalamadi | It's a custom script font |
| 15:44.37 | pastamancer | I found the 'Grid' thread yesterday and it looks cool enough to steal my addon-writing time |
| 15:44.49 | Xuerian | Ah... |
| 15:44.58 | neale | give it something to make the words 'pop' more |
| 15:44.59 | Xuerian | Is this a wow only guild? |
| 15:45.06 | Kalamadi | Yeah. |
| 15:45.15 | Slayman | who is in charge of FuBar_tcgTradeskills ? |
| 15:45.17 | neale | especially the guildname |
| 15:45.25 | Slayman | thiana |
| 15:45.32 | Xuerian | neale is right, it's a void behind the text. A banner, a crest, something |
| 15:45.47 | neale | neale is ri.. yeah! im right! |
| 15:45.59 | Kalamadi | I tried fixing that void by using clouds + smudge |
| 15:46.19 | CIA-17 | 03hshh * r13541 10ChannelClean/ (ChannelClean.lua ChannelClean.toc Locale.lua): |
| 15:46.19 | CIA-17 | ChannelClean: |
| 15:46.19 | CIA-17 | - add default rule support |
| 15:46.19 | CIA-17 | - change db type from "account" to "profile" |
| 15:46.19 | CIA-17 | - add temp db clean schedule |
| 15:46.19 | CIA-17 | - add anti-flush feature |
| 15:46.41 | Xuerian | Yeah, it came close, but there's no pop, nothing to draw your eyes to the actual guild name |
| 15:47.06 | neale | add glow to the guildname or something |
| 15:47.26 | *** part/#wowace neale (n=rollo@204.50.77.42) |
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| 15:54.34 | Kalamadi | Try it now |
| 15:54.46 | Kalamadi | I know it's not perfect, but I'm trying to get some various feedbacks to get it right |
| 15:55.02 | *** join/#wowace Espa (n=espa@wkstn109-234.harbin.georgetown.edu) |
| 15:55.24 | CIA-17 | 03hshh * r13542 10EQCompare/ (4 files): |
| 15:55.24 | CIA-17 | EQCompare: |
| 15:55.24 | CIA-17 | - add "hoverlink safe mode" option, default is On. If you disable this option |
| 15:55.24 | CIA-17 | and enable hoverlink, after your mouse onenter item hyperlink, it will query |
| 15:55.24 | CIA-17 | from server when item is not in your local cache db. That may cause you |
| 15:55.24 | CIA-17 | disconnect from server, but it can display un-cached item tooltip. |
| 15:55.49 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/EQCompare |
| 15:58.03 | *** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@72.17.187.154) |
| 15:58.47 | Kalamadi | mjc: http://68.202.83.244/OotHG-Banner.png |
| 15:59.19 | haste | sand color on sand color, hoo~ |
| 15:59.25 | Funkeh` | [Ammo]: you here? |
| 15:59.34 | Kalamadi | haste: You know it. |
| 15:59.37 | [Ammo] | yeah why? |
| 16:00.27 | Funkeh` | you know how i posted on the oRA2 thread about timers cuting out? like 12:... well its doing it for cdt aswell with my shield wall cd, could it be candy bar? |
| 16:01.25 | Xuerian | Kalamadi: Try increasing the font size on the guild name a little bit, or increasing the stroke/changing it to a thicker black glow and using a dummy layer beneath for the smooth glow |
| 16:01.48 | mjc | Kalamadi: and? |
| 16:01.54 | mjc | impossible to read |
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| 16:02.54 | Kalamadi | Bleh, it seems fine to me >_< |
| 16:03.10 | [Ammo] | Funkeh`: it's most definately candybar and font related |
| 16:03.14 | [Ammo] | because it doesn't do that fo rme |
| 16:03.22 | [Ammo] | it's on one of my todo lists |
| 16:03.47 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 16:03.55 | Funkeh` | i dont use any custom fonts if that helps |
| 16:04.41 | [Ammo] | me neither |
| 16:04.44 | [Ammo] | but I use 0.64 UI scale |
| 16:04.48 | [Ammo] | that might have something to do with it |
| 16:04.54 | vhaarr | so do I |
| 16:05.07 | Funkeh` | yeah smallest one i use |
| 16:05.11 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-137-82-117.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:05.13 | [Ammo] | me too and no problems here |
| 16:05.24 | [Ammo] | that's what's bothering me |
| 16:05.30 | Funkeh` | :( |
| 16:05.31 | [Ammo] | I have little of the problems others have |
| 16:05.31 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 16:06.58 | [Ammo] | Cartas congrats on 4H |
| 16:07.02 | [Ammo] | took you long enough :p |
| 16:07.10 | Cartas | Thanks, haha |
| 16:07.11 | Cartas | Yeh |
| 16:07.16 | Cartas | We had a lot of warriors leaving :P |
| 16:07.19 | [Ammo] | ouch |
| 16:07.20 | *** join/#wowace Slayman (n=Slayman@d141001.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 16:07.32 | [Ammo] | we've got an insane warrior/rogue tier3 droprate :( |
| 16:07.32 | Cartas | We had a warlock and priest playing as warriors :P |
| 16:07.35 | haste | Cartas: we've had a lot of warriors coming back! |
| 16:07.40 | Gemski | our mt sold his warrior for 3500... |
| 16:07.46 | Gemski | so we'll never see 4h |
| 16:07.52 | haste | Gemski: our MT migrated to another server :D |
| 16:07.59 | CIA-17 | 03roartindon * r13543 10FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu/ (oRA2CooldownFu.lua oRA2CooldownFuLocale-enUS.lua): Ammo has indicated that Paladin Divine Intervention support will be added to oRA2. This is a preemptive updated to support that. It will NOT work with ctra users at all. |
| 16:08.03 | Gemski | yea, the guy who completed his frame |
| 16:08.05 | Gemski | he left too |
| 16:08.15 | haste | he also migrated with Cartas :p |
| 16:08.27 | Gemski | so im content that we got to 4H but i know we'll never down em :P |
| 16:08.27 | haste | he only had seven splinters then afaik tho' |
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| 16:08.40 | [Ammo] | tier3 drops for us: |
| 16:08.41 | [Ammo] | W/R: 36 |
| 16:08.41 | [Ammo] | M/W/P: 25 |
| 16:08.41 | [Ammo] | S/D/H/P: 22 |
| 16:08.53 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 16:08.54 | Cartas | Hm, haste? |
| 16:08.56 | [Ammo] | meh at 36 warrior/rogue vs so little of the other shit |
| 16:09.02 | haste | [Ammo]: we also get a lot of warrior/rogue |
| 16:09.04 | haste | Cartas: :3 |
| 16:09.14 | Cartas | Oh, lol |
| 16:09.17 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: Getting warrior/rogue is better than getting paladin/etc like we do. |
| 16:09.18 | Cartas | Zilrion didn't complete his frame. |
| 16:09.20 | Cartas | Liar ! |
| 16:09.25 | haste | Cartas: 1804.57| [ haste] he only had seven splinters then afaik tho' |
| 16:09.30 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: We have 1 tank with more thank 3 t3. |
| 16:09.31 | Cartas | Oh, lol |
| 16:09.42 | vhaarr | And 5 paladins with 6+ t3. |
| 16:09.54 | [Ammo] | ugh |
| 16:09.55 | Gemski | we had 55 warrior/rogue |
| 16:10.27 | Gemski | 41 mage/etc |
| 16:10.27 | Funkeh` | all we get is shity pala/warrior :( wtb more priest loot! |
| 16:10.27 | vhaarr | We just recruited a druid and hunter, and they both got shoulders on their first run. |
| 16:10.42 | Funkeh` | -.- |
| 16:10.50 | Gngsk | wait, you mean moving to the token system didn't fix drop rate issues? |
| 16:10.52 | vhaarr | We've considered bringing out-of-guild paladins to Naxx for t3. |
| 16:11.04 | Funkeh` | its didnt fix it, its improved it :P |
| 16:11.15 | Funkeh` | lol vhaarr |
| 16:11.19 | Funkeh` | 2k a piece |
| 16:11.32 | vhaarr | Well, it's either that or throw them away. |
| 16:11.35 | vhaarr | Noone needs them. |
| 16:12.33 | Gemski | i think the token system is good...cept for those weeks we had only warrior/rogue drop >>< |
| 16:13.04 | steino | I like the aq token system.. except for the scarabs and idols :< |
| 16:13.17 | Gemski | we never had enough idols |
| 16:13.27 | vhaarr | The token system was just a lame excuse to attach redicilous quest requirements to get items. |
| 16:13.37 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 16:13.44 | vhaarr | It doesn't solve any problems at all. |
| 16:14.21 | Gemski | between token system and attunement...naxx is hard to gear out alts with :( |
| 16:14.42 | Galencia | well its better except the quest thing |
| 16:14.47 | oxman | Rophy could you make a fubar icone for kombatstats ? Then I can have kombatstats in fubar :) |
| 16:14.54 | Galencia | at least if something drops over and over 2 or 3 group sof people can use it instead of 1 |
| 16:15.32 | Rophy | huh? there is a fubar_ks |
| 16:15.41 | oxman | ups sorry :) |
| 16:15.44 | vhaarr | Galencia: The chance of something dropping that someone needs is the same with tokens and class drops. |
| 16:15.51 | vhaarr | So it's not better. |
| 16:16.06 | oxman | heu where Rophy ? |
| 16:16.21 | Galencia | no it isnt, because you have two tokens, each of which can be used my multiple classes |
| 16:16.25 | Rophy | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4680 |
| 16:16.25 | Galencia | instead of double wrath |
| 16:16.27 | Galencia | eg |
| 16:16.31 | oxman | oh ok thanks Rophy |
| 16:16.34 | vhaarr | Yes it is. |
| 16:16.43 | Galencia | so if you get double warrior/rogue, one can go to a warrior, one to a rogue |
| 16:16.51 | Galencia | you cant do that with double wrath. |
| 16:17.01 | Galencia | one goes to a warrior, one is DE |
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| 16:17.58 | Galencia | there is no "magic fix", short of the game asking you what you want to drop, which isnt happening any time soon |
| 16:18.11 | vhaarr | I'll just repeat what I said, since apparently you didn't read it: The chance of something dropping that someone needs is the same with tokens and class drops. |
| 16:18.29 | Galencia | how can it be? |
| 16:18.40 | Galencia | having 2 peopel who can use one item screws with the whole probability table |
| 16:19.05 | Galencia | the chance CANNOT be the same, according to laws of probability |
| 16:19.25 | Galencia | i read what you said fine, just what you said is illogical |
| 16:20.05 | [Ammo] | it's this guy called murphy |
| 16:20.08 | [Ammo] | blame him |
| 16:20.12 | Galencia | :) |
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| 16:22.03 | [Ammo] | does anyone know the name of the autoattack CVar ? |
| 16:22.12 | [Ammo] | so I can make some more oRA2 users happy |
| 16:22.27 | [Ammo] | or the attack on assist one rather |
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| 16:23.47 | [Ammo] | or can point me to an easy way to find CVars |
| 16:24.33 | Dagarr | Hello all |
| 16:24.43 | haste | [Ammo]: "assistAttack" = "0" |
| 16:25.15 | [Ammo] | haste: how did you find it? :) |
| 16:25.53 | haste | I have a CVar list from somewhere |
| 16:26.04 | haste | I can pastebin it if you want it |
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| 16:28.04 | [Ammo] | for now this will do |
| 16:30.23 | [Ammo] | turned out I didn't even need it :) |
| 16:31.29 | CIA-17 | 03moonsorrow * r13544 10SwapMagic/ (. SwapMagic.lua SwapMagic.toc readme.txt): |
| 16:31.29 | CIA-17 | SwapMagic: |
| 16:31.30 | CIA-17 | - Creating project trunk |
| 16:33.18 | CIA-17 | 03moonsorrow * r13545 10SwapMagic/libs/: |
| 16:33.18 | CIA-17 | SwapMagic: |
| 16:33.18 | CIA-17 | - forgot libs folder -_- |
| 16:33.31 | [Ammo] | hmm one of the SVN mirrors is acting up I think |
| 16:33.41 | [Ammo] | keep getting errors on certain externals that it doesn't know a revision |
| 16:33.44 | [Ammo] | then retry and it works |
| 16:33.57 | Cartas | Oh, is that what it is? |
| 16:34.48 | [Ammo] | I think so yeah |
| 16:35.13 | Cartas | Hm |
| 16:35.22 | Cartas | You don't happen to know what a .dda file is, do you? |
| 16:35.46 | Cartas | daa*, sorry! |
| 16:35.49 | [Ammo] | http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com :p |
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| 16:36.07 | haste | FtH|eagle: your finditem function won't like enchants I believe |
| 16:36.09 | [Ammo] | something with audio? :) |
| 16:36.29 | FtH|eagle | hm, in which way? |
| 16:36.32 | haste | if you save it with the full also that is |
| 16:36.40 | haste | if you enchant something, the itemlink changes |
| 16:36.52 | haste | it gets the id of the enchant in it |
| 16:36.55 | Cartas | [Ammo]! |
| 16:36.57 | Cartas | I mean, how do I "use" it? |
| 16:37.02 | FtH|eagle | so? where's the problem? |
| 16:37.09 | Cartas | It's 'Visual Studio 6.0 Enterprise.daa" |
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| 16:37.27 | [Ammo] | Cartas: again that same url! |
| 16:37.29 | Cartas | lol |
| 16:37.30 | [Ammo] | ogogog |
| 16:37.40 | [Ammo] | ":) |
| 16:38.24 | CIA-17 | 03moonsorrow * r13546 10SwapMagic/ (SwapMagic.toc libs/): |
| 16:38.24 | CIA-17 | SwapMagic: |
| 16:38.24 | CIA-17 | - added externals & keywords |
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| 16:47.12 | restored | quick question from a noob :P How do i get the group numbers to show up with Perfect Raid ? |
| 16:49.11 | Kalamadi | restored: I'm not certain there is a flag for that |
| 16:49.39 | restored | have seen Screenshots with group numbers displayed |
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| 16:50.28 | Kalamadi | restored: I'll check it out when the servers come back online. |
| 16:51.08 | packetlss | restored: hang on, i'll check |
| 16:51.35 | Kalamadi | packetlss: Is that packetLOSS or packetLESS? |
| 16:51.45 | oxman | you can't on the last version restored |
| 16:52.20 | restored | im using an older one thoiugh. |
| 16:52.23 | restored | though even. |
| 16:52.29 | packetlss | Kalamadi: loss, but the 'o' is lost, it's a gimmik name since i'm involved in networking quite alot |
| 16:52.30 | oxman | so /praid select |
| 16:52.37 | oxman | and you'll see something like "number" or "group" |
| 16:52.39 | oxman | don't remember |
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| 16:53.03 | Kalamadi | packetlss: I see. |
| 16:53.41 | Mikma | there seems to be problems with latest mendeleeb |
| 16:53.52 | Plorkyeran | /praid select group |
| 16:53.58 | [Ammo] | hrmf, what is the differnce in /assist <name> and AssistUnit( "someunit" ) with regards to the assistAttack CVar |
| 16:54.02 | Mikma | i'm getting babble-boss-2.0 error about "Avalanchion" translation |
| 16:54.04 | [Ammo] | because it doesn't work on AssistUnit |
| 16:54.08 | [Ammo] | but it does work on /assist |
| 16:54.19 | clad | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:54.27 | [Ammo] | if there is no answer to that question, how do I issue an attack command :) |
| 16:54.28 | clad | but someone could hack it into the name area, *shrug* |
| 16:54.44 | clad | [Ammo] You can always /cast Attack =) |
| 16:54.47 | Kalamadi | clad: He's not using the latest |
| 16:54.59 | clad | Bah, thats even more frustrating. |
| 16:55.10 | Kalamadi | clad: Isn't tech support fun? |
| 16:55.13 | clad | i'm, glad none of it will be working, cause its not getting rewritten like that |
| 16:55.22 | Kalamadi | Also, fun consists of the same letters as "unf." |
| 16:55.22 | clad | it will be soon.. since there will only be one version =) |
| 16:55.34 | Suntiger | mikma, you should not consider meneleev working atm. |
| 16:55.54 | Kalamadi | s'omg instant species change |
| 16:55.58 | [Ammo] | clad: I'm doing it from a script |
| 16:56.01 | [Ammo] | clad: so not from macro |
| 16:56.09 | clad | You could CastSpellByName("Attack") =) |
| 16:56.14 | clad | but there's somethign that toggles auto attack |
| 16:56.23 | clad | the wiki would help, search for Attack |
| 16:56.28 | Mikma | MoonWolf: why not? :) |
| 16:56.28 | Kalamadi | Isn't it /autoattackon and /autoattackoff? |
| 16:56.44 | Mikma | if it's in the trunk it should work (someone said that, prolly tekkub kek) |
| 16:56.57 | navv | if i use CreateFrame() and i have a virtual frame that im inheriting from |
| 16:56.59 | MoonWolf | mikma, because i am in the literal middle of converting from my own locals to acelocale. |
| 16:57.03 | navv | i presume OnLoad stuff doesnt get used? |
| 16:57.18 | navv | or at least thats very much how it seems |
| 16:57.20 | evl | Hmms |
| 16:57.24 | evl | I just tried XRS with a caster calss |
| 16:57.35 | evl | How do I get an XRS buff button that buffs arcane brilliance |
| 16:57.38 | Mikma | MoonWolf: well yeah, the babble-boss doesn't contain something |
| 16:57.47 | MoonWolf | well technically it should not be broken |
| 16:58.06 | MoonWolf | avalanche should be handled by babble boss |
| 16:58.07 | Cartas | Hmmmm |
| 16:58.12 | MoonWolf | it should be in my own acelocale |
| 16:58.16 | Cartas | Does anyone know the / command for Antagonist? |
| 16:58.44 | Espa | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.45 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.49 | Cartas | It isn't working, Espa. |
| 16:58.49 | Funkeh` | oops :P |
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| 16:58.56 | Espa | really? |
| 16:59.00 | Cartas | Yeh :S |
| 16:59.00 | Espa | it was working for me... hmm |
| 16:59.04 | Cartas | Well |
| 16:59.06 | Cartas | i updated :O |
| 16:59.09 | [Ammo] | AttackTarget() it is |
| 16:59.11 | Cartas | I didn't expect it to change though :S |
| 16:59.14 | Espa | then i'm not sure =P |
| 16:59.16 | Espa | sry |
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| 17:01.21 | MoonWolf | eeuh, mik i do not get the bug when i have mendy loaded. |
| 17:01.31 | MoonWolf | how did you get it ? |
| 17:01.47 | Cartas | Hm |
| 17:01.52 | Cartas | It still works though, Espa :O |
| 17:01.58 | Cartas | The addon, I mean. |
| 17:02.03 | Cartas | It just has no /command :O |
| 17:02.21 | Cartas | Also: Has Candybars reverted to some crappy texture? :o |
| 17:03.27 | CIA-17 | 03moonsorrow * r13547 10SwapMagic/SwapMagic.lua: |
| 17:03.28 | CIA-17 | SwapMagic: |
| 17:03.28 | CIA-17 | - removed FindItem method, not needed anymore |
| 17:03.42 | MoonWolf | aha |
| 17:03.52 | MoonWolf | someone changed stuff in mendy |
| 17:05.12 | restored | has filter been removed from praid too ? |
| 17:06.34 | vhaarr | MoonWolf: I did, hope you don't mind. Tell me if I should revert. |
| 17:06.54 | MoonWolf | no its fine |
| 17:07.12 | MoonWolf | work i don't have to do makes me happy |
| 17:07.18 | vhaarr | thought so :) |
| 17:08.22 | kergoth | Cartas: it seems to have.. anything relying on the default looks like crap now |
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| 17:10.51 | MoonWolf | hmm, i updated it but still no bug. |
| 17:11.00 | MoonWolf | Mikma, can you tell me how to reproduce it ? |
| 17:12.15 | vhaarr | MoonWolf: I moved the elemental invasion bosses from Mendeleev to Babble-Boss. |
| 17:12.19 | vhaarr | I'm not sure what bug you're discussing. |
| 17:12.44 | MoonWolf | <Mikma> i'm getting babble-boss-2.0 error about "Avalanchion" translation |
| 17:12.48 | pastamancer | ag`: nice to see the party and raid sort in trunk :) I'll update the ToTT patch when I get home from work. |
| 17:12.59 | ag` | ok |
| 17:13.03 | ag` | :) |
| 17:13.30 | vhaarr | MoonWolf, Mikma: It's spelled "Avalanchion", right? |
| 17:13.38 | vhaarr | That's how I added it. |
| 17:13.44 | vhaarr | Mikma: Make sure you've updated Babble-Boss. |
| 17:13.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+o clad] by ChanServ |
| 17:14.25 | MoonWolf | there is nice and shiny L[] calls everywhere. |
| 17:14.30 | vhaarr | :) |
| 17:14.38 | vhaarr | Some things are yet to be fixed. |
| 17:14.49 | [Ammo] | evil hax but it works :) |
| 17:14.52 | MoonWolf | ill work on it more later this night. |
| 17:15.07 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13548 10oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: |
| 17:15.07 | CIA-17 | oRA2: |
| 17:15.07 | CIA-17 | * Will now attack on assist when targeting MT target depending on the Attack on Assist setting. |
| 17:15.17 | [Ammo] | wowwiki ftw |
| 17:15.27 | [Ammo] | AssistUnit("player") -> attack on assist if needed :) |
| 17:15.41 | MoonWolf | [Ammo], for coding its fine |
| 17:15.50 | MoonWolf | for other information specifically lore, not that much. |
| 17:16.23 | [Ammo] | yeah I only useit for coding |
| 17:16.59 | MoonWolf | like porting over the other locales. |
| 17:17.11 | MoonWolf | i have a very good chinese locale |
| 17:17.23 | CIA-17 | 03flyflame * r13549 10BabbleLib/Babble-Spell-2.0/Babble-Spell-2.0.lua: BabbleLib: update zhCN localization for Chronometer related druid spells |
| 17:18.05 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13550 10oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: |
| 17:18.05 | CIA-17 | oRA2: |
| 17:18.05 | CIA-17 | * small comment in the code for the previous commit. |
| 17:18.07 | MoonWolf | anyway, i am going to for the first time this week, going to PLAY wow. |
| 17:18.11 | MoonWolf | cyall later. |
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| 17:23.07 | Mikma | vhaarr: yes i checked it too :) |
| 17:23.18 | vhaarr | And you get an error? |
| 17:23.21 | vhaarr | It works fine here. |
| 17:25.03 | vhaarr | Mikma: Could you pastebin the error? |
| 17:25.44 | mjc | moo |
| 17:25.52 | mjc | vhaarr: bother to play w/ ohnoes? :P |
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| 17:26.03 | vhaarr | I fixed it :) |
| 17:26.06 | vhaarr | It didn't work. |
| 17:29.08 | Mikma | vhaarr: nah, not in game anymore, watching mythbusters :) |
| 17:29.20 | vhaarr | Mikma: ^^ |
| 17:30.50 | Saroz | is proximitylib still the best way to determine OOR of a player? it seems to look at the combat log, which doesn't seem that effective |
| 17:32.11 | oxman | its the best way |
| 17:32.14 | oxman | but don't very good :) |
| 17:32.20 | oxman | its use checkinteractdistance |
| 17:32.29 | oxman | and combatlog to detect 45m |
| 17:32.50 | oxman | but some addon modify the range of combatlog |
| 17:32.50 | oxman | :) |
| 17:32.50 | Saroz | exactly |
| 17:32.50 | Saroz | so that seems a bit.... ehh.. broken |
| 17:32.52 | oxman | a bit :p |
| 17:34.49 | eternally777 | Is it possible to retrieve information from another character's saved variables? |
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| 17:39.01 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r13551 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Adding a check for a non-string argument to LessName. (Blindly, from work.) |
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| 17:47.13 | FISKER_Q | vhaarr |
| 17:47.22 | FISKER_Q | found a bug in your gay gnome addon |
| 17:47.38 | [Ammo] | vhaarr is currently aware of your issues, and will flame you shortly |
| 17:47.45 | FISKER_Q | awesome |
| 17:48.46 | vhaarr | FISKER_Q: tell me |
| 17:49.04 | yacoob | anyone used http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5477-1-raidsymbolizer.html ? |
| 17:49.10 | FISKER_Q | If you have 2 of the same trinkets in a set it will only equip one |
| 17:49.23 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 17:49.27 | vhaarr | thanks, I'm aware of the problem |
| 17:49.35 | FISKER_Q | where's the flaming? |
| 17:50.07 | FISKER_Q | thanks |
| 17:50.18 | vhaarr | sec |
| 17:50.53 | haste | http://www.fuxsake.net/images/mplayer/Screenshot-MPlayer%20-%20Video-2.png :D |
| 17:54.51 | vhaarr | FISKER_Q: please read the TODO before reporting problems, I know about the problem already |
| 17:54.54 | vhaarr | wasting my time like that |
| 17:54.56 | vhaarr | idiot |
| 17:54.58 | vhaarr | -- |
| 17:55.02 | vhaarr | FISKER_Q: good enough? |
| 17:55.10 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 17:55.20 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 17:58.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:00.07 | mjc | kergoth: yay for trying to get wowbench to run on lua5.1 on osx |
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| 18:00.32 | mjc | ~seen ckknight |
| 18:00.34 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12h 21m 18s ago, saying: 'pray out the Cosmos!'. |
| 18:00.39 | FISKER_Q | thanks vhaarr |
| 18:00.46 | CIA-17 | 03roartindon * r13552 10FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu/oRA2CooldownFuLocale-enUS.lua: FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu: And committed updated localization file to prevent paladin divine intervention errors on load |
| 18:00.49 | FISKER_Q | but i don't know where the fuck the fucking TODO is you fucking idiot |
| 18:00.49 | FISKER_Q | :P |
| 18:01.01 | kergoth | mjc: hahah, have fun |
| 18:01.12 | mjc | I got bitlib.so compiled |
| 18:01.17 | mjc | but now it's bombing trying to walk _G |
| 18:01.33 | FISKER_Q | oh |
| 18:01.37 | FISKER_Q | it's in the addonfolder |
| 18:02.03 | mjc | kergoth: http://ace.pastey.net/1467 |
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| 18:02.49 | mjc | anyone? |
| 18:04.09 | mjc | I'm not even sure why it thinks it's calling a table value. |
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| 18:04.35 | vhaarr | ckknight: hey |
| 18:04.42 | mjc | ckknight: just the person I needed |
| 18:05.00 | mjc | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/1467 bombs w/ lua5.1, it thinks it's calling a table value. :( |
| 18:05.18 | kergoth | mjc: i havent looked at that pastebin, but it sounds like its doing a 'for x in y' |
| 18:05.22 | kergoth | you want for x in pairs(y) |
| 18:05.43 | kergoth | wowbench doesnt support lua 5.1 yet |
| 18:06.21 | kergoth | wonder if pinpoint works.. if so, should make it support adding notes to metamap |
| 18:07.02 | vhaarr | ckknight: you around? |
| 18:07.05 | vhaarr | or just autoconnect? |
| 18:07.11 | mjc | for k,v in _G do |
| 18:07.19 | yacoob | then I can ditch metamap! :) |
| 18:07.37 | mjc | kergoth: ah, well I'm making it work ;P |
| 18:08.55 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13553 10oRA2/Participant/CoolDown.lua: oRA2: experimental drycoded paladin DI support for cooldowns |
| 18:09.12 | kergoth | i'm looking forward to end's yatlas rewrite. that has some potential |
| 18:09.37 | Xuerian | Yea =D |
| 18:09.40 | Xuerian | Yatlas <3 |
| 18:09.50 | Xuerian | And if Atlas switches to the Yatlas core.... |
| 18:10.02 | yacoob | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.07 | Xuerian | Damn tha'll be cool :) |
| 18:10.20 | yacoob | waypoints is way too bloated, and boss drops are nice, but not essential |
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| 18:10.52 | Xuerian | Yacoob: Pinpoint + New Yatlas + Atlas + AtlasLoot (Optional) = win. :) |
| 18:11.01 | NA|Liquidor | Hello thar. Could someone explain me how the actualy change is going to be with the targeting "removal"? |
| 18:11.07 | yacoob | wait, what's yatlas then for? |
| 18:11.23 | Xuerian | Yatlas (And it's new in-dev core) is a minimap viewer. |
| 18:11.30 | yacoob | NA|Liquidor, sure, read this link: http://warcraft-and-you.blogspot.com/2006/10/add-onmacro-lockdown-and-you.html |
| 18:11.40 | NA|Liquidor | Thank you |
| 18:12.32 | Xuerian | It's tiny, there's no built-in maps, It simply grabs the maps from the game. If Atlas used the Yatlas core, it wouldn't have to include maps, and maps would be zoomable/pannable |
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| 18:12.43 | yacoob | Xuerian, hoo. |
| 18:12.49 | yacoob | looks nice. |
| 18:13.20 | yacoob | and how's the yatlas restructurization going? :) |
| 18:13.24 | Mikma | yacoob: that site is trying to execute some scripts? |
| 18:13.28 | Xuerian | Yep =D. Apparently the Yatlas <-> atlas dev[s] are talking, last I read on the Atlas forum, but no news on yatlas itself afaik x.x |
| 18:13.47 | yacoob | Mikma, frankly speaking, no idea. |
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| 18:13.59 | Mikma | yacoob: well it did. i got a nag about it in firefox |
| 18:14.03 | Mikk | don't suppose someone would mind PMing me Thrae's e-mail? |
| 18:14.34 | yacoob | Mikma, I haven't. Noscript, are you using? |
| 18:15.22 | yacoob | judging from source, it has JS-enabled menu |
| 18:15.30 | Saroz | where can you download banto bars? |
| 18:15.43 | haste | It's a texture? |
| 18:16.25 | yacoob | the question remains valid even then, haste :D |
| 18:16.35 | yacoob | Saroz simply wants someone to code TextureChest |
| 18:16.37 | yacoob | *g* |
| 18:16.59 | haste | Why not a libary that handles textures :p ? |
| 18:17.09 | haste | (yes, libary, include the texture you want, and share it with other!) |
| 18:17.31 | yacoob | that's my Original Name [tm] for it :P |
| 18:17.43 | kergoth | yes, a texture sharing lib would rock |
| 18:18.28 | haste | It's damn simple to write also :p |
| 18:18.36 | Xuerian | Hmm, a external lib with the textures, or a embed that gathers all the textures in each mod it's loaded in, and shoves it into a global stack? o_0 |
| 18:18.42 | mjc | kergoth: seems to work now |
| 18:18.44 | yacoob | in fact you're already written it while wa talked? Amazing! |
| 18:18.45 | haste | embeed |
| 18:18.52 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13554 10oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: commented out the attack on assist code it's causing too many problems apparantly. |
| 18:18.55 | Xuerian | Mmmm, that is nice |
| 18:18.56 | [Ammo] | embed has problems |
| 18:19.03 | Saroz | isn't it called banto bars? |
| 18:19.04 | [Ammo] | same problems candybar had |
| 18:19.05 | Saroz | wtf then |
| 18:19.09 | Saroz | some action bar addon |
| 18:19.09 | Xuerian | ? |
| 18:19.12 | yacoob | I just don't like the loading time with tons of embeeds :( |
| 18:19.15 | Saroz | banto something |
| 18:19.24 | mjc | Saroz: that is just a texture |
| 18:19.26 | mjc | bantobar |
| 18:19.27 | [Ammo] | because you can't reliably get the location of the textures |
| 18:19.30 | mjc | .tag |
| 18:19.31 | Saroz | hrrrmm |
| 18:19.33 | mjc | .tga |
| 18:19.33 | yacoob | and no, !!!Library is not an option, I had lots of weirdness with that one :( |
| 18:19.35 | Xuerian | yacoob: Just rip out the libs folder from your addons, then re-add the ones they bitch about |
| 18:19.35 | Saroz | I got the name wrong then |
| 18:20.08 | Saroz | Bongos! |
| 18:20.08 | Saroz | jebus man |
| 18:20.08 | Xuerian | [Ammo]: Why not just make each mod declare it's own textures? |
| 18:20.10 | haste | [Ammo]: I'm thinking of a lib that doesn't include any textures tho' |
| 18:20.22 | yacoob | zenmod |
| 18:20.26 | yacoob | one with everything |
| 18:20.28 | [Ammo] | ah ok, that you can just register textures with? |
| 18:20.29 | Xuerian | [Ammo]: The idea is to share all textures between mods, not provide a lib WITH the textures |
| 18:20.36 | haste | [Ammo]: yeh, nothing more |
| 18:20.40 | [Ammo] | hmm, lots of double textures though |
| 18:20.49 | yacoob | BantoBantobar? |
| 18:20.50 | [Ammo] | so you'd need some kind of naming scheme :) |
| 18:20.57 | haste | Not if people co-operate a little |
| 18:20.58 | yacoob | or, better, BantoBantoBantobar? |
| 18:20.58 | Xuerian | That's happened already, not real way around that unless you make a common structure for textures |
| 18:21.01 | Xuerian | Like embeds have |
| 18:21.04 | Saroz | so where can I get Bongos, anyone know? |
| 18:21.13 | Saroz | ah, it's on curse |
| 18:21.15 | [Ammo] | wowi, curse etc |
| 18:21.59 | Xuerian | For example, make the standard to include the texture lib, then all textures go in addon/tex, so anyone concerned about doubles can get a !!!Tex and strip the /tex from their addons, while it would still work for average people? :P |
| 18:21.59 | Saroz | time to replace nurfed action bars |
| 18:22.14 | yacoob | Bongos are nice. The addon I mean. |
| 18:22.18 | yacoob | DAB went away with that. |
| 18:22.24 | Xuerian | Yep |
| 18:22.56 | haste | Xuerian: for fuck sake, don't even suggest using !!!?!#"¤%&/Name :p |
| 18:23.03 | Xuerian | lol |
| 18:23.06 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 18:23.11 | Xuerian | Fine, fine :P |
| 18:23.13 | haste | Set it as a optionaldep, it doesn't need two hundred and fifty !!!! infront of it |
| 18:23.16 | [Ammo] | !!!libs and !!!Libraries should be shot in the face and then fed to the dogs |
| 18:23.20 | yacoob | !!!WTFLOLOMGPWN |
| 18:23.20 | Xuerian | Ohh. |
| 18:23.23 | Xuerian | I didn't know that =D |
| 18:23.23 | yacoob | with a trojan addon |
| 18:24.23 | Xuerian | Why, why did I think of condoms just then |
| 18:24.46 | haste | oh, that's scary |
| 18:24.48 | haste | I did it just also |
| 18:24.57 | Xuerian | XD |
| 18:25.05 | [Ammo] | get a room! |
| 18:25.13 | Xuerian | Coming too, [Ammo]? |
| 18:30.31 | mjc | I wish we could run luac on ace |
| 18:30.33 | mjc | thatd be hot |
| 18:30.35 | mjc | :P |
| 18:31.33 | Mikk | luac only speeds up load times though |
| 18:31.37 | Mikk | has nothing to do with execution time |
| 18:31.49 | kergoth | what would be nice, is luajit |
| 18:31.54 | Mikk | if you want faster exec |
| 18:31.56 | Mikk | precisely kerg ;) |
| 18:32.19 | Mikk | I |
| 18:32.27 | Mikk | I'm bored. Does anyone need any graphics? o.O |
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| 18:33.37 | SH|Shabador | Make me something cool that I'll like for a purpose I need. |
| 18:33.57 | Xuerian | Graphics? I need a action-button icon sized X that can scale to 16x16 without loosting too much, for XLoot... I need a icon for when syncing with another xloot somebody is achieved, when I do XLoot Sync :) |
| 18:34.10 | Xuerian | PNG would be good :P |
| 18:34.48 | Xuerian | Black & blue colors.... |
| 18:35.14 | kergoth | xloot sync? |
| 18:35.15 | mjc | kergoth: god this is so fun |
| 18:35.16 | kergoth | whassat? |
| 18:35.21 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13555 10EgoCast/EgoCast.lua: EgoCast: calling original hook method via 'new' way now. |
| 18:36.03 | mjc | kergoth: wowbench is a sexy idea but it and the blizzard stuff is *SO* littered with these table calls :P |
| 18:36.11 | Mikk | SH|Shabador: http://81.233.236.26/shabador.jpg <- I believe that this fulfills your requirements. |
| 18:36.31 | SH|Shabador | Cool. Now make it real! |
| 18:36.34 | Xuerian | XLoot Sync, it just popped into my head that it'd make more sense to not just sync boss loot (But that too), for example: XLoot monitor provides a stack of what has just been looted, right? And it's going to provide a stack for roll loot, with roll icons/status bar... What if another stack showed what WASN'T looted, and was left on the corpse? Or what other people were getting ready to loot.... All optional, and in a separate module |
| 18:36.39 | Mikk | Damnit, you never said anything about that :-P |
| 18:36.45 | SH|Shabador | Gief some weird dimentional printer. |
| 18:37.11 | mjc | Xuerian: it should also have "I want this item" / "pass" buttons |
| 18:37.12 | Mikk | Package fax |
| 18:37.40 | Mikk | Xuerian: Do you want a 16x16 or a not-too-detailed 32x32 then? |
| 18:37.43 | Xuerian | mjc: Group loot stack will have that, Need/greed/pass, duno about boss loot... that could be interesting but definately good idea :P |
| 18:38.02 | Xuerian | Mikk Either one will work, whatever you're more comfortable with :) |
| 18:38.20 | Mikk | Any already-existing graphics I need to be compatible with? |
| 18:38.22 | Mikk | Logo, whatever... |
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| 18:38.27 | mjc | Xuerian: anyone that uses dkp won't be "rolling" on boss loot |
| 18:38.55 | Xuerian | mjc: Nor will that loot be showing up in the group loot frame, I mean literally, group loot, like the mode :p |
| 18:39.05 | mjc | ah |
| 18:39.06 | Xuerian | Yes one second, Mikk |
| 18:39.34 | yacoob | Buh |
| 18:39.45 | yacoob | Prat doesn't put player names in < > |
| 18:39.54 | yacoob | even if I ask it to. |
| 18:39.55 | Xuerian | Mikk: I whipped this up in a couple minutes, fonts don't have to match but black on blue i would like. Font idea was basically sharp X vs wow-ish loot. http://xuerian.net/XLoot.png |
| 18:40.05 | mjc | Xuerian: I think you should make these separate.. XLoot, XLootMonitor, XLootSync, XLootExtras, etc |
| 18:41.03 | mjc | Xuerian: I like that |
| 18:41.06 | Xuerian | Separate as in standalone? I might. Otherwise the stacking code will get further modular as I figure out what I need it to do with Group loot, that'll be forcing it into dual use |
| 18:41.15 | Mikk | Xuerian: An X styled like that plus a pair of dice? |
| 18:41.18 | vhaarr | mjc: OhNoes needs TouristLib for checking if the player is in a battleground or not. |
| 18:41.24 | vhaarr | mjc: If he is, then don't deequip. |
| 18:41.33 | mjc | vhaarr: good idea |
| 18:41.49 | vhaarr | or, alternatively |
| 18:41.56 | Xuerian | Mikk: Sure :) Want that font or have another in mind? I think it's Winter-something, let me check. |
| 18:41.57 | yacoob | btw, can anyone give me a hint what could be a cause of following behaviour: I log in, game loads, ui loads completely and freeze. I see frozen in half-dissapear zone name. 15-25seconds and it's unfrozen |
| 18:42.03 | yacoob | Warmup doesn't show anything obvious. |
| 18:42.07 | vhaarr | mjc: Check if the player has a target, and if he has and it's a enemy player, then don't deequip. |
| 18:42.13 | Mikk | Xuerian: I'm going to line graphics it |
| 18:42.14 | vhaarr | That'd be even better. |
| 18:42.19 | yacoob | What could be wrong? |
| 18:42.20 | vhaarr | mjc: No dependencies. |
| 18:42.23 | Xuerian | Ooo. Ok :) |
| 18:42.25 | mjc | vhaarr: better than that, check for list of attackers? |
| 18:42.31 | vhaarr | nah |
| 18:42.41 | vhaarr | keep it simple ftw |
| 18:42.51 | mjc | well |
| 18:43.00 | mjc | I suppose yeah |
| 18:43.09 | vhaarr | If you're targetting something besides a enemy player, you don't need yours weapons anyway. |
| 18:43.10 | mjc | not a big deal if you are being attacked by both player and mob |
| 18:43.15 | vhaarr | nope |
| 18:43.55 | mjc | vhaarr: it'd be nice if you'd throw a "EquipLastItem" function |
| 18:44.07 | mjc | EquipLastItem(itemSlotName) |
| 18:44.08 | mjc | er |
| 18:44.14 | mjc | EquipLastItem(invSlotName) |
| 18:47.19 | Ghent | yacoob, I usually see that when the wdb cache files are updating |
| 18:49.24 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13556 10BabbleLib/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
| 18:49.24 | CIA-17 | BabbleLib: |
| 18:49.24 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.24 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.00 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13557 10oRA2/Participant/ (CoolDown.lua Resurrection.lua): oRA2: hooking changes |
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| 18:53.53 | kergoth | haste: i equipped a trinket, oCD starts showing the equip cooldown bar for it, unequip the trinket, re-equip the trinket, which resets the equip cooldown, but oCD didnt reset the bar back to 30, so it ran out before the actual cooldown was up. |
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| 18:54.12 | CIA-17 | 03nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r13558 10ag_UnitFrames/ (23 files in 3 dirs): ag_UF(Branch): merged trunk changes |
| 18:54.50 | haste | kergoth: I can look into it when I have time tomorrow |
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| 18:55.14 | kergoth | no rush, just wanted to make sure you knew about it |
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| 18:56.22 | yacoob | Ghent, I see it on each "first" login. |
| 18:56.41 | yacoob | and it's definitelly some addon's fault, it just started one day |
| 18:58.22 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r13559 10XLoot/ (XLoot.lua XLootOptions.lua): |
| 18:58.22 | CIA-17 | XLoot: |
| 18:58.22 | CIA-17 | * Fixed bug involving background alpha gradient threshold & setting bg colors |
| 18:58.23 | CIA-17 | * Re-added right-click-on-frame options |
| 19:00.05 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13560 10FuBar_TrackerFu/FuBar_TrackerFu.lua: FuBar_TrackerFu: Hide the minimap trackingicon more consistently if told to. |
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| 19:00.59 | Ghent | it happens consistently every login? |
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| 19:10.05 | Saroz | [Ammo], FYI you can improve the cooldown on DI |
| 19:10.11 | Saroz | T3 improves it aswell |
| 19:10.17 | [Ammo] | oh hrmf |
| 19:10.30 | [Ammo] | am not taking that into account yet :) |
| 19:10.36 | Saroz | just letting you know :) |
| 19:10.41 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 19:10.43 | [Ammo] | thanks |
| 19:10.51 | [Ammo] | for now it's a 60 minute bar |
| 19:10.53 | [Ammo] | live with it :p |
| 19:11.37 | vhaarr | :P |
| 19:18.43 | Saroz | wth is this: Error: MKACTIVITY of '/wowace/!svn/act/c5b58b1d-75ac-7c44-9d54-d89e3ccf9127': Could not parse response status line. (http://svn.wowace.com) |
| 19:18.45 | Saroz | ah |
| 19:18.46 | Saroz | nevermind |
| 19:18.53 | Saroz | dont commit externals |
| 19:19.45 | mjc | Saroz: heh |
| 19:20.06 | [FH]Birdemani | does /ace info count all boss mods and such as mods? |
| 19:20.37 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r13561 10ProximityLib/Lib/ProximityLib.lua: ProximityLib: CheckInteractDistance(unitid, 1) is now 10 yards, like trade |
| 19:21.12 | [FH]Birdemani | because I get Total Addons at 97, Ace2 Addons at 179, Ace at 3, LoD at 21 and enabled at 93 |
| 19:21.34 | vhaarr | yes it does |
| 19:23.57 | Funkeh` | you have like 200 addons? seriously? |
| 19:24.08 | Funkeh` | man i have like 17 |
| 19:24.22 | Funkeh` | 15 are ace2 |
| 19:25.00 | vhaarr | No, he doesn't. |
| 19:25.11 | kergoth | theres overlap among those groups |
| 19:25.16 | kergoth | i do have 217 myself though :\ |
| 19:25.34 | Funkeh` | wow |
| 19:25.42 | [FH]Birdemani | funkeh: my mods http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uilistingdt1.jpg |
| 19:26.05 | Funkeh` | gl on new patches! |
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| 19:26.16 | [FH]Birdemani | i do fine |
| 19:26.32 | Funkeh` | you really need to look at your addons and ask yourself do i really NEED this to play this character? :D |
| 19:26.34 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/setinfo.txt |
| 19:26.50 | [FH]Birdemani | huh? what addons play my character? |
| 19:27.03 | Funkeh` | nono |
| 19:27.04 | [FH]Birdemani | most of mine are graphical changes or things that gather info |
| 19:27.19 | Funkeh` | i see |
| 19:27.33 | Funkeh` | whats your memory usage at? |
| 19:27.37 | [FH]Birdemani | notice no easy tank mods, no cthun warner, etc |
| 19:27.44 | [FH]Birdemani | 23 solo, 29 in raids |
| 19:28.00 | Funkeh` | i didnt mean those kind of addons :0 |
| 19:28.16 | Funkeh` | i mean although their graphical, some you really dont need to play, but anywy nvm ;p |
| 19:28.36 | kergoth | you dont _need_ any to play. |
| 19:28.42 | [FH]Birdemani | i raid 5 nights a week, i want to look at a good UI that doesnt give me aheadach |
| 19:28.44 | Funkeh` | so true :D |
| 19:28.49 | mjc | kergoth: still hacking wowbench |
| 19:28.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:28.58 | kergoth | its fun, wowbench is pretty nifty |
| 19:29.02 | mjc | mostly BlizzardInterface stuff needing fixing |
| 19:29.16 | kergoth | i went to use it to write an addon and got distracted by working on it, never did write that addon :P |
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| 19:29.57 | kergoth | my ram usage is 28 megs at login at the moment, 33 in raids, 60 when auctioneer loads |
| 19:29.58 | kergoth | :P |
| 19:30.12 | mjc | kergoth: do you have a script around somewhere to parse cursegaming for the latest version of ADDON_NAME? |
| 19:30.29 | kergoth | nope, i was planning on enhancing my wow_addon script to support that, monitoring rss, etc |
| 19:30.32 | kergoth | but never got around to it |
| 19:30.51 | CIA-17 | 03andalia * r13562 10BattleChat/ (BattleChat.lua BattleChat.toc libs/): BattleChat: - Now uses AceModuleCore |
| 19:30.52 | yacoob | eh, monitoring rss? |
| 19:31.00 | yacoob | how can you come out of sandbox? |
| 19:31.04 | mjc | yacoob: for checking fro the latest addon |
| 19:31.08 | mjc | it's a python script |
| 19:31.15 | mjc | goes along with our svk setups |
| 19:31.59 | yacoob | ah, I thought you mean from insinde the game :) |
| 19:33.43 | mjc | no |
| 19:33.50 | CIA-17 | 03moonsorrow * r13563 10SwapMagic/SwapMagic.lua: |
| 19:33.50 | CIA-17 | SwapMagic: |
| 19:33.50 | CIA-17 | - added a workaround for gmail, it's hooking PickupContainerItem |
| 19:34.35 | Saroz | so is ProximityLib the best choice for range checking? |
| 19:34.46 | CIA-17 | 03andalia * r13564 10BattleChat_Buffs/ (8 files in 4 dirs): |
| 19:34.46 | CIA-17 | BattleChat_Buffs: |
| 19:34.46 | CIA-17 | - Initial Import: Displays buffs in BattleChat. |
| 19:34.47 | CIA-17 | - Currently only displays buffs on yourself. |
| 19:34.47 | CIA-17 | - No options atm |
| 19:34.47 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 19:34.47 | CIA-17 | - Only display textures and debufftypes on gains (because of limitations in se-aura) |
| 19:34.49 | CIA-17 | - May contain erros |
| 19:34.54 | nevcairiel | meh spam |
| 19:35.02 | Saroz | spam spam |
| 19:35.02 | Andalia | sry xD |
| 19:39.07 | CIA-17 | 03andalia * r13565 10BattleChat_Buffs/ (BattleChat_Buffs.toc libs/): BattleChat_Buffs: externals + keywords |
| 19:40.22 | CIA-17 | 03andalia * r13566 10BattleChat_Buffs/libs/ (Gratuity-2.0/ SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/): Removed file/folder |
| 19:41.57 | yacoob | Just checked, 163 addon dirs here. |
| 19:42.13 | yacoob | But idchat2 will be going, and reurl, and tab... |
| 19:42.52 | CIA-17 | 03andalia * r13567 10BattleChat_Buffs/libs/: BattleChat_Buffs: fixed externals xD |
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| 19:50.24 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r13568 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: Tourist - fixed iterators, changed /tourist slash command |
| 19:50.40 | Azurewrath | mhm.. anyone know if the silence to Grand Widow Faerlina can be cast _before_ she enrages? |
| 19:50.51 | Azurewrath | or doesn't it counter the enrage than? |
| 19:51.35 | grzesieq | Andalia: do you have a recent sshot with this BattleChat? :) |
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| 19:53.45 | vhaarr | Azurewrath: yes it can, it delays the enrage |
| 19:53.54 | vhaarr | Azurewrath: we do that |
| 19:54.06 | Andalia | grzesieq: http://666kb.com/i/ai58fnmb5f7nzxfrd.jpg is quite recent |
| 19:54.32 | Azurewrath | mhm k.. any negatives in doing that? I've read it counters for 60 seconds if she's enraged already.. |
| 19:54.45 | Azurewrath | Problem is that our Tank gets 6k hits then |
| 19:54.49 | mjc | Andalia: where's battlechat? the thing on the side? |
| 19:54.50 | mjc | :P |
| 19:54.54 | mjc | oh I see |
| 19:54.54 | mjc | haha |
| 19:54.57 | mjc | cute. :) |
| 19:55.14 | Andalia | ^^ It nearly the same as eavesdrop |
| 19:55.24 | grzesieq | hehe |
| 19:55.37 | grzesieq | I was going to ask how it's different |
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| 19:56.11 | Andalia | But i don't want to give it up and so i keep improving it if i'm bored |
| 19:56.49 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r13569 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: Tourist - typo |
| 19:56.57 | Andalia | the main diffenerce is that battlechat is not that user-friendly ^^ colorchoosing in hex is something i need to improve for example |
| 19:57.02 | mjc | ckknight: fixing wowbench for lua 5.1 :p |
| 19:57.22 | Andalia | and no dropdown menu...but people should use deuce-commander anyway |
| 19:58.20 | mjc | Andalia: deucecommander = winz0r |
| 19:59.04 | ckknight_ | mjc, fun? |
| 19:59.17 | mjc | ckknight_: lots of pairs() |
| 19:59.23 | ckknight_ | ah, okay |
| 19:59.38 | ckknight_ | I'd been using pairs for a while ;-) |
| 19:59.49 | mjc | it just fired its first event! |
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| 20:00.01 | mjc | ckknight_: OSX, also |
| 20:00.27 | ckknight_ | does that change things? |
| 20:00.42 | mjc | bitlib |
| 20:01.17 | mjc | and wow executable path |
| 20:01.23 | mjc | SPELLS_CHANGED fires before PLAYER_LOGIN? |
| 20:01.24 | mjc | wtf |
| 20:02.03 | ckknight_ | *thumbs up* |
| 20:02.16 | mjc | ckknight_: gotta start somewhere |
| 20:02.28 | mjc | and gotta keep myself sane while writing data migration scripts at work |
| 20:02.30 | Azurewrath | vhaarr: Faerlina down first time :D |
| 20:02.35 | vhaarr | Azurewrath: gj :) |
| 20:02.44 | vhaarr | Using BW, of course. |
| 20:03.37 | mjc | ckknight_: i wish we could use luac on addons, maybe squeeze out a little perf |
| 20:04.05 | ckknight_ | mjc, I don't think it'd add enough benefits to be worth it. |
| 20:04.21 | mjc | makes wowb a little faster |
| 20:04.21 | ckknight_ | I wouldn't want obfuscated code |
| 20:04.30 | mjc | neither would I |
| 20:08.20 | mjc | still bombing on P_E_W |
| 20:08.22 | mjc | :P |
| 20:12.31 | CIA-17 | 03roartindon * r13570 10FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu/oRA2CooldownFuLocale-enUS.lua: FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu: fixed stupid typo hopefully |
| 20:16.50 | mjc | kergoth, ckknight : I'm very impressed with wowbench :) |
| 20:17.20 | ckknight | I am as well |
| 20:17.53 | ckknight | what do you all think of this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15401595&postId=320856049&sid=1#556 |
| 20:18.00 | ckknight | I made a request regarding the secure frames |
| 20:18.50 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13571 10BigWigs_Debugger/BigWigs_Debugger.toc: BigWigs_Debugger: TOC: Don't lie about embedding stuff when we don't. |
| 20:19.10 | ckknight | basically, Request: Allow for creation/change of secure frames on PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED / RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE while in combat. |
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| 20:20.22 | mjc | ckknight: it's running now |
| 20:20.27 | mjc | yay |
| 20:20.29 | ckknight | what's running now? |
| 20:20.33 | mjc | wowbench :) |
| 20:20.35 | ckknight | oh |
| 20:20.36 | ckknight | grats. |
| 20:20.45 | mjc | is there something I cna do to try and break wowbench itself? |
| 20:21.17 | FISKER_Q | yay |
| 20:21.21 | FISKER_Q | i got CE ordered |
| 20:21.26 | mjc | CE? |
| 20:21.29 | mjc | oh |
| 20:21.32 | mjc | dammit |
| 20:21.34 | mjc | type your crap out |
| 20:21.34 | FISKER_Q | 1½ minute after it was put to sale |
| 20:21.38 | FISKER_Q | QQ :( |
| 20:22.32 | mjc | doesn't it start shipping nov. 30th? |
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| 20:23.42 | evl | CAn you get someone else to buy a mount from another faction if you have the riding skill? |
| 20:23.53 | neale | i believe mounts are bop now |
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| 20:23.58 | neale | hey maia |
| 20:24.02 | ckknight | hey maia |
| 20:24.04 | maia | heya :) |
| 20:24.24 | maia | working on Grid, and just realized I have no clue how to draw a simple square without texture with any given color ;) |
| 20:24.29 | Azurewrath | vhaarr: ofc, using BW :) |
| 20:24.46 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 20:24.51 | vhaarr | hey maia |
| 20:25.01 | mjc | anyone else use OSX? |
| 20:25.03 | vhaarr | I have no idea either :P |
| 20:25.17 | maia | plus I have no clue on how to create a vertical health bar (but I guess I'll find that on wowwiki) |
| 20:25.26 | maia | mjc: me. |
| 20:25.36 | mjc | maia: got wowbench running on lua5.1 |
| 20:25.37 | vhaarr | Did I forget to add a feed command? |
| 20:25.39 | vhaarr | :( |
| 20:25.39 | mjc | :) |
| 20:25.42 | neale | :) lol |
| 20:25.43 | maia | nice! |
| 20:26.00 | JoshBorke | maia: check with industrial |
| 20:26.12 | JoshBorke | maia: why not just make it a vertical status bar? |
| 20:26.36 | JoshBorke | then people can also skin it as well |
| 20:26.53 | maia | JoshBorke: yeah, a vertical status bar. need to find out how to make it vertical. and as for boxes, id might be a good hint, doesnt he have boxes around his unit frames? |
| 20:26.57 | grzesieq | mjc: me, if you're still interested |
| 20:27.08 | andreasg | mass-: |
| 20:27.16 | andreasg | mass-: I can't respond to PMs |
| 20:27.16 | maia | JoshBorke: I'd not want to use statusbars for everything, that would result in 4 overlay statusbars ;) |
| 20:27.23 | mjc | grzesieq: do you actually write addons? :P |
| 20:28.32 | mjc | ckknight: is there a table of triggerable events somewhere? in wow, not ace |
| 20:29.00 | mjc | I want to iterate through it and fire every single one, see if I can get wowbench to fall over |
| 20:29.11 | JoshBorke | mjc: a lot of wowbench hasn't been implemented :-P |
| 20:29.14 | maia | ag`: don't aUF have optional non-textured background boxes in some of the templates? how do you create them? |
| 20:29.31 | tekcub | *grin* |
| 20:29.39 | andreasg | maia: non-textured background boxes? |
| 20:29.40 | JoshBorke | maia: i agree. as far as the borders go, couldn't you make them be on separate layers? |
| 20:29.41 | mjc | JoshBorke: trying to get wowbench to fall over on lua5.1 incompatibilites, not on not implementedness |
| 20:29.48 | grzesieq | mjc: nope :P |
| 20:29.57 | mjc | grzesieq: then I don't care |
| 20:30.02 | grzesieq | oh |
| 20:30.14 | maia | andreasg: yeah... |
| 20:30.20 | grzesieq | anyway, tv time |
| 20:30.24 | andreasg | what do you mean? |
| 20:30.39 | JoshBorke | maia: SetTexture("texturePath" or r,g,b[,a]) |
| 20:30.46 | alkis | vhaarr: ping |
| 20:31.10 | maia | JoshBorke and ag: to create the border around the health bar, I have a status bar and at the layer behind a box (which is another status bar at the moment, but that doesnt make sense) |
| 20:31.24 | andreasg | you want some blank frames you can resize or texture? |
| 20:31.27 | vhaarr | alkis: pong |
| 20:32.04 | alkis | i put the detachedData field in the registration code and hooked it up in AceDB but I still can't get it to save the last position there |
| 20:32.06 | alkis | http://ace.pastey.net/1471 |
| 20:32.36 | andreasg | help me help you :) |
| 20:32.56 | maia | yeah. I can't find the frame type, as its neither StatusBar nor Slider nor ScrollFrame nor Model nor MessageFrame... |
| 20:33.11 | FISKER_Q | holy :O |
| 20:33.20 | FISKER_Q | what's up with the anubisath wardens and nullifiers? |
| 20:33.21 | maia | I just want to CreateFrame() with a blank box of any given color and texture |
| 20:33.23 | andreasg | maia: but you're asking if it's something you can create with the theme? |
| 20:33.30 | FISKER_Q | wtb strats :P |
| 20:34.17 | andreasg | maia: I will code a feature that will allow the theme files to create new frames/buttons of a specified type |
| 20:34.29 | andreasg | currently theme files set properties for frames that already exist |
| 20:34.44 | JoshBorke | maia: local frame = CreateFrame() local text = frame:CreateTexture() text:SetTexture(1,0,0,1) text:SetAllPoints() |
| 20:35.03 | andreasg | yes maia knows I think JoshBorke, the question is if you can do it with the theme file |
| 20:35.04 | maia | andreasg: just to reiterate (sorry if I'm unclear): I have a squared StatusBar. Now I want a border around it. My idea was to create a box at a layer behind the status bar, a few pixel larger. That way you'd see a border. Now my problem is I don't know which type of frame I'd need to create for such a box. |
| 20:35.30 | maia | theme file? I dont need any theme file. Borders dont need customizable textures, they are only 2px wide. |
| 20:35.33 | mjc | ckknight: does for x in y do ... done still work ? :P |
| 20:35.38 | andreasg | ok maia |
| 20:35.40 | andreasg | probably just a texture I think |
| 20:35.47 | andreasg | a texture frame |
| 20:35.49 | maia | okay, I'll try that. |
| 20:36.30 | andreasg | but you're modifying aguf then? |
| 20:36.51 | maia | nah... :) |
| 20:37.02 | vhaarr | alkis: please prepend stuff to me with my name, I don't read everything here |
| 20:37.14 | vhaarr | alkis: I don't know if you said something but you pinged me |
| 20:37.14 | maia | JoshBorke: so I assume CreateFrame("Frame")? |
| 20:37.50 | andreasg | maia: ah, you were just asking how I did a specific thing |
| 20:38.13 | maia | my problem is/was, wowwiki doesnt seem to have a complete list of possible frame types. http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame just says: "Type of the frame to be created (XML tag name): "Frame", "Button"... etc." |
| 20:38.14 | alkis | vhaarr: i put the detachedData field in the registration code and hooked it up in AceDB but I still can't get it to save the last position there http://ace.pastey.net/1471 |
| 20:38.32 | maia | ...without listing the possible types. so I was stuck with StatusBar ;) |
| 20:39.03 | andreasg | I think you need to use something else than createframe to create a texture |
| 20:39.28 | andreasg | but I am not sure |
| 20:40.25 | vhaarr | alkis: hm, I don't know, ask ckknight |
| 20:40.38 | alkis | vhaarr: kk |
| 20:41.07 | alkis | vhaarr: thanks for looking into it! |
| 20:41.15 | alkis | ckknight: can i have your assistance for a couple of minutes pls? |
| 20:42.49 | JoshBorke | maia: the possible frame types are (off teh top of my head) are Frame, Button, Statusbar, ScrollBar |
| 20:42.51 | pastamancer | maia: frame = CreateFrame("Frame", name, UIParent); frame:CreateTexture(...) perhaps? |
| 20:43.31 | thecookie | Hmm.. all of a sudden all my addons have exploded... |
| 20:43.37 | fathom | Are there any other Unit Frame addons done with AceUnitFrames other than Lucien? |
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| 20:44.14 | maia | yeah, you guys got it right. thanks a lot. |
| 20:44.32 | JoshBorke | maia: glad we could help :-) |
| 20:44.38 | pastamancer | I cheated and looked at XArt |
| 20:44.41 | maia | btw, I just realized that SetOrientation("VERTICAL") won't turn the texture by 90° |
| 20:44.45 | maia | haha |
| 20:44.51 | vhaarr | alkis: no worries |
| 20:44.56 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 20:45.24 | Health | I have no idea why my addons isn't working |
| 20:45.27 | tekcub | now there's the proof that Foobar200's random algy is better than the ususal "shuffle" bullshit |
| 20:45.28 | maia | so I'll need to create my own .tga files (unfortunately Photoshop can't export or edit tga afaik) |
| 20:45.41 | tekcub | I hit Skip random ,and it started playing the same album again :) |
| 20:46.09 | pastamancer | maia: I would be very surprised if photoshop didn't support tga |
| 20:46.42 | maia | pastamancer: well, at least OSX doesnt open photoshop when doubleclicking tga files, its shows tga as unknown file type. |
| 20:47.01 | yacoob | maia, how's the Grid? |
| 20:48.14 | maia | yacoob: so far I have 40 health boxes with a border. No module logic yet, therefor the borders jut randomly show and hide ;) |
| 20:48.30 | [FH]Birdemani | will it scale for smaller raids? |
| 20:48.32 | yacoob | disco! :> |
| 20:48.35 | pastamancer | maia: try opening it from within photoshop (may be listed as targus)? if not, GrapphicConverter can. |
| 20:48.38 | maia | Also I don't have the corner indicators or anything else. But I just started coding 2 hours ago |
| 20:48.43 | yacoob | maia, well, the thread got wild, and most of the ideas are already there |
| 20:48.54 | maia | Birdemani: sure - it'll only show existing units. |
| 20:48.59 | yacoob | just a variation I didn't saw: perhaps you can make transparent those frames that don't need anything? |
| 20:49.05 | yacoob | (or almost transparent, 10% alpha) |
| 20:49.21 | mjc | for k,v in a do |
| 20:49.23 | mjc | go blizz. |
| 20:49.48 | maia | yacoob: either that or I'll just show them at full health without any border/corner indicators at all. Grid will need lots of usability testing. |
| 20:49.52 | [FH]Birdemani | maia: I only scanned that thread, is the bar that people are putting on the bottom of the thread the hp/mana of your target or you? |
| 20:50.07 | yacoob | maia, I'd play with alpha, to simply make them go away |
| 20:50.11 | maia | of yourself. But I wont add that to Grid. |
| 20:50.38 | [FH]Birdemani | its not bad that way if you could dock a mod to it that way...less UI landscape used |
| 20:51.11 | vhaarr | andreasg: I didn't get a chance to fix clicking/mouseovering the portraits, think you could take a look? |
| 20:51.34 | andreasg | vhaarr: I don't have time today sorry |
| 20:52.10 | JoshBorke | maia: i'll take a look at the code sometimes if you'd like |
| 20:52.27 | maia | JoshBorke: sounds great. |
| 20:53.19 | JoshBorke | give you comments as a "developer" ;-) |
| 20:57.06 | kergoth | mjc: CG_OhNoes saved me some money already, wiped in a 45 min run and it deequipped for me |
| 20:57.09 | kergoth | mjc: :) |
| 20:57.28 | mjc | :) |
| 20:57.49 | mjc | let me know what percent works best |
| 20:58.34 | kergoth | i'm testing with 1% at the moment, will see how it goes, have only died once so far |
| 20:59.09 | kergoth | i love 45 min runs |
| 20:59.09 | [FH]Birdemani | what does the OhNoes part do for CG? |
| 20:59.10 | kergoth | so hectic |
| 20:59.20 | kergoth | [FH]Birdemani: unequips your weapons when your health drops to a given % |
| 20:59.27 | kergoth | so they dont get damaged by the death |
| 20:59.29 | [FH]Birdemani | haha |
| 20:59.42 | [FH]Birdemani | installing that tonight |
| 20:59.49 | mjc | I wrote it :) |
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| 21:00.01 | mjc | it needs work, just a warning |
| 21:00.09 | mjc | tonight I'll fix it up some and also do hunter class call de-equip |
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| 21:00.57 | mjc | vhaarr: pingggggg |
| 21:01.09 | vhaarr | pongelong |
| 21:01.41 | Metzel | Hi there, anybody can help me out? I cant move my oRA2 maintank frame....its stuck in screen center. Dunno if im right here anyway .> |
| 21:01.52 | vhaarr | Alt+Drag. |
| 21:02.44 | Metzel | lol, thanks :> |
| 21:03.56 | vhaarr | mjc: pooong! |
| 21:04.24 | mjc | vhaarr: could i have a ClosetGnome:EquipLastItem(itemSlotName), pretty please? |
| 21:04.54 | vhaarr | mjc: CG doesn't know what you're wearing. |
| 21:04.57 | vhaarr | So it can't provide that. |
| 21:05.22 | mjc | vhaarr: ugh |
| 21:06.06 | vhaarr | mjc: It's a deliberate decision to reduce memory load and processing, but it's not set in stone yet. |
| 21:07.21 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: wb |
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| 21:16.56 | ckknight | alkis, you have 2 minutes |
| 21:18.56 | mjc | vhaarr: it would only, at most, store the name of the last worn item for 19 slots, no ? |
| 21:20.57 | vhaarr | mjc: It would have to catch equipment changes outside CG sets. |
| 21:21.04 | mjc | yes |
| 21:21.18 | mjc | vhaarr: perhaps make a "Last" set? |
| 21:21.25 | vhaarr | mjc: There is one. |
| 21:21.26 | mjc | or "Previous" |
| 21:21.35 | vhaarr | And you get an event, so you can save it yourself. |
| 21:21.43 | vhaarr | ClosetGnome_WearSet |
| 21:21.48 | vhaarr | with the setname as arg1 |
| 21:21.49 | mjc | vhaarr: can I swap out individual items from that set? |
| 21:22.00 | vhaarr | When? |
| 21:22.09 | mjc | on my own |
| 21:22.16 | vhaarr | When you get the event? |
| 21:22.17 | mjc | w/ EquipItem |
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| 21:22.32 | mjc | let me rephrase |
| 21:23.10 | mjc | want to change a single item in that set |
| 21:23.14 | mjc | *I want to |
| 21:23.28 | vhaarr | When? |
| 21:23.34 | mjc | I guess I'd have to use ClosetGnome_WearSet and store it there? |
| 21:24.00 | vhaarr | That event fires when a set is queued but before it is equipped. |
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| 21:24.07 | vhaarr | The event model is crap and not finished. |
| 21:24.27 | mjc | yeah, that's not what I want |
| 21:24.42 | vhaarr | But if you want to know what CG knows about the last set, then that is the event you need. |
| 21:25.04 | vhaarr | What do you want then? |
| 21:25.16 | ckknight | hrm, in a whack-a-mole style emergency monitor, with static unit frames to be clicked on, you could prevent the clicking of some frames by putting a transparent, non-protected, mouse-enabled frame in front of it, and remove it at the appropriate time. |
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| 21:25.29 | mjc | ohnoes does a bunch of "store item in mainhandslot in memory, store item in secondaryhandslot in memory, store item in rangedslot in memory" stuff on unequip/equip |
| 21:25.31 | ckknight | which'd prevent misclicks |
| 21:26.13 | vhaarr | mjc: Yes, which is reliable. |
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| 21:26.29 | mjc | it's uglyish |
| 21:26.54 | vhaarr | It's the only choice you have. |
| 21:27.22 | vhaarr | mjc: You also need to listen for ClosetGnome_PartlyWearSet |
| 21:27.34 | vhaarr | Which fires if some items (like weapons) changed but not the rest of the set. |
| 21:27.56 | mjc | why? if I'm only checking before I actually do something |
| 21:28.14 | vhaarr | Well you wanted to know the last equipped items. |
| 21:28.28 | mjc | at the time of my function call |
| 21:28.36 | vhaarr | You need to store it locally. |
| 21:28.47 | mjc | I mean, if they change gear after my mod changes it, that's not my problem |
| 21:28.56 | mjc | that's the stance CG takes, right? |
| 21:28.59 | vhaarr | yes |
| 21:29.03 | mjc | thought so |
| 21:29.42 | mjc | ok, so I only need to hook it to see if they tried to change sets before my event fires? |
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| 21:30.13 | mjc | wb ckk |
| 21:30.18 | vhaarr | I don't follow mjc |
| 21:30.33 | vhaarr | ClosetGnome_PartlyWearSet and ClosetGnome_WearSet trigger when CG knows about item changes. |
| 21:30.35 | vhaarr | and/or |
| 21:31.13 | mjc | vhaarr: for ohnoes, I only need to catch partywearset to update my "last worn item" information so that it knows the 'correct' item to re-equip |
| 21:31.27 | vhaarr | both |
| 21:31.58 | vhaarr | mjc: I'm going to redo the event model when I redo the equip queue. |
| 21:32.03 | vhaarr | But for now you need both. |
| 21:32.49 | yacoob | A simple, yet crucial question. |
| 21:32.49 | yacoob | How to quickly move fubar settings between realms? |
| 21:33.04 | mjc | your health cannot decrease outside of combat, can it, vharr? |
| 21:33.15 | yacoob | I can't seem to load other realms settings, yet alone named characters, or classes-specific settings. |
| 21:33.18 | JoshBorke | mjc: yes it can. |
| 21:33.34 | JoshBorke | but not to the point of death |
| 21:33.45 | Plorkyeran | Yes, it can |
| 21:33.46 | mjc | hum |
| 21:33.59 | Codayus | Environmental damage can kill you outside combat... |
| 21:34.04 | JoshBorke | mmm, that's true |
| 21:34.08 | Plorkyeran | Fatigue, drowning, debuffs, stupid trinkets, etc. |
| 21:34.10 | Codayus | *splat* |
| 21:34.11 | Codayus | :-) |
| 21:34.17 | JoshBorke | paladins never go splat |
| 21:34.23 | JoshBorke | we bounce |
| 21:34.27 | Plorkyeran | Plenty of ways to die out of combat |
| 21:34.27 | mjc | ok, so then yes, you're right rabbit |
| 21:34.31 | Codayus | I would have said the same about priests... |
| 21:34.37 | Codayus | ...until the day I discovered I was out of feathers. |
| 21:34.42 | mjc | haha |
| 21:34.48 | JoshBorke | can mages blink while falling? |
| 21:34.53 | mjc | yes |
| 21:34.53 | Codayus | "Reagent missing? Uh..." |
| 21:35.03 | yacoob | JoshBorke, ricochett :) |
| 21:35.06 | JoshBorke | hm, can you escape from falling death that way? |
| 21:35.14 | mjc | not anymore |
| 21:35.24 | yacoob | ...anyway, anyone can tell me about those profiles? |
| 21:35.50 | Plorkyeran | Occasionally you can if it shifts you to a spot where you'll take less falling damage |
| 21:36.02 | Plorkyeran | But it usually just puts you back where you started falling from |
| 21:41.29 | yacoob | ...anyone? |
| 21:41.37 | JoshBorke | i'm sorry what? |
| 21:41.50 | JoshBorke | oh, aceprofile bug, don't use it, wouldn't know :-D |
| 21:41.53 | yacoob | Profiles in Fubar. And in Ace2 in general, I think. |
| 21:41.58 | yacoob | *hrmph* |
| 21:42.15 | JoshBorke | don't think anyone actually uses them |
| 21:43.10 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.17 | kergoth | class specific, character specific.. |
| 21:43.18 | yacoob | well, for *fubar* it's basic thing. |
| 21:43.30 | yacoob | kergoth, and are you capable of answering my question? :) |
| 21:43.39 | kergoth | possibly, whats the question? |
| 21:44.20 | yacoob | 23:32 < yacoob> How to quickly move fubar settings between realms? |
| 21:44.25 | yacoob | 23:33 < yacoob> I can't seem to load other realms settings, yet alone named characters, or classes-specific settings. |
| 21:46.04 | kergoth | oh, for some reason the "copy from" ability with profiels is often greyed out |
| 21:46.09 | kergoth | when its not greyed out, it works |
| 21:46.18 | yacoob | kergoth, bug or feature? |
| 21:46.22 | kergoth | no idea why it gets disabled like that though, i suspect a bug in ace2's profile system |
| 21:46.34 | yacoob | noone uses, noone cares... :> |
| 21:47.21 | kergoth | bugs the hell out of me, i end up having to set things up over again |
| 21:47.25 | kergoth | between similar classes and such |
| 21:48.08 | yacoob | exactly! |
| 21:48.13 | yacoob | *demands a solution* |
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| 21:49.02 | kergoth | i know you can use tinypad or whatever to manually issue the commands to wipe the new profile and do the copy, i've tried that before |
| 21:50.06 | yacoob | the main problem is with fubar, as I need to manually set everything, starting from width, ending with setting of specific plugins |
| 21:50.25 | JoshBorke | you could say fubar is fubar? o.O |
| 21:51.28 | kergoth | yacoob: yea, its annoying. i use class specific profiles for fubar, but my caster classes are often set up with a similar base configuration |
| 21:51.49 | yacoob | kergoth, who should we poke to fix it? :) |
| 21:52.02 | kergoth | probably ck, not sure |
| 21:53.43 | kergoth | swapmagic rocks |
| 21:56.30 | maia | any way to let a StatusBar grow inverse, aka from right to left? |
| 21:57.05 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 21:57.22 | JoshBorke | SetMinMaxValue(0,100) SetValue(100) SetValue(50) SetValue(0) |
| 21:57.45 | JoshBorke | just change your logic from increasing to decreasing |
| 21:57.48 | maia | it doesnt grow then, it depletes as usual. |
| 21:57.58 | JoshBorke | oh! i see what you're saying |
| 21:58.18 | maia | I want it anchored to the other side (in my case, to the top as its vertical) |
| 21:58.49 | pastamancer | dare I suggest swapping the background and bar colors? |
| 21:59.28 | maia | pastamancer: doesnt work here, as the background is larger than the bar... |
| 21:59.34 | pastamancer | ah, damn |
| 22:00.01 | JoshBorke | maia: why not just create a new background? |
| 22:00.16 | maia | another background? hmm. |
| 22:00.29 | maia | want to keep the number of textures/frames smallish. |
| 22:00.39 | maia | but if its the only workaround, meh... |
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| 22:00.59 | pastamancer | oh, what's that site that keeps track of changes in the FrameXML directory |
| 22:01.24 | maia | wdn.wowinterface.com I think |
| 22:01.39 | pastamancer | that's the one |
| 22:03.05 | JoshBorke | ok bye |
| 22:03.57 | maia | bye? |
| 22:04.10 | yacoob | kergoth, this is so... unexplained. I went to Fubar.lua, copied bit for Priest, changed the text to Mage, loaded up, ended up with... well, close, but not the thing I copied. |
| 22:04.17 | yacoob | Gremlins, I tell you. |
| 22:04.24 | kergoth | hahah |
| 22:04.36 | kergoth | remember that ace1 addons wont be affected by the ace2 db profiles |
| 22:04.42 | kergoth | so if you have any of those left.. |
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| 22:10.59 | pastamancer | maia: just looked through the FrameXML, it looks like you'll have to invent a reverse-statusbar |
| 22:11.13 | maia | :) |
| 22:11.18 | maia | working on it |
| 22:11.35 | Plorkyeran | You could just manually resize a frame |
| 22:11.52 | Thiana | This whole push blizzard is doing to require mouse use is insane :( |
| 22:11.52 | pastamancer | let me know when you get a chance to read my obscenely long post in the Grid thread RE: code structure |
| 22:22.18 | vhaarr | okay, so I haven't set up a open source CMS since postnuke was at its prime, since then I've just used commercial crap, and now my parents want me to create a site for their new business |
| 22:22.29 | vhaarr | I've got no clue what to use .. Drupal, Jaws.. ? |
| 22:26.23 | pastamancer | Mambo? |
| 22:26.27 | vhaarr | The ones I know about that I consider using are Drupal, Jaws, Mambo and Wordpress. |
| 22:26.47 | vhaarr | I thought Mambo had some issues some time ago. |
| 22:26.55 | vhaarr | That the whole management team quit or something? |
| 22:27.30 | pastamancer | Drupal is pretty good, it takes a bit of configuring though |
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| 22:31.42 | yacoob | Which addon will show me number of possible casts, with my current mana? |
| 22:31.58 | Xuerian | TheoryCraft does, iirc. |
| 22:32.41 | yacoob | uh, I'd prefer something lightweight :) |
| 22:32.50 | kergoth | counterder will show it |
| 22:33.05 | kergoth | lern2count might too, that was the new version fo it, but i never tested it |
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| 22:33.30 | yacoob | ok, thanks |
| 22:34.04 | eternally777 | mikk, ping |
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| 22:56.04 | snurre | will closetgnome get keybinds? |
| 22:56.21 | neale | you will do nothing to my closetgnome! |
| 22:56.25 | neale | i love him just the way he is! |
| 22:56.36 | snurre | I need to push his buttons |
| 22:57.08 | neale | poor, poor closetgnome. |
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| 23:04.21 | hugo | what is best herbalism map radar addon, gatherer? need somethin with low memory usage ;o |
| 23:04.38 | Plorkyeran | Can't be done with low memory usage :P |
| 23:04.48 | hugo | ;x |
| 23:05.28 | Plorkyeran | I suppose you could compress the info and only decompress the info for your current zone... but that'd probably hurt performance even more |
| 23:08.52 | hugo | so only addon avail is gatherer ? |
| 23:13.57 | hugo | hmm im wondering what unitframes is this http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full3380.jpg |
| 23:14.09 | hugo | looks like some modified ag_unitframes but with 3d portrait ? |
| 23:15.00 | eternally777 | Did I miss something? What happened to Prat? |
| 23:18.50 | snurre | hugo: duf i think |
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| 23:23.20 | [FH]Birdemani | what do you mean eternally777? |
| 23:24.02 | tekcub | http://www.furaffinity.net/full/201901/ |
| 23:24.04 | tekcub | kek |
| 23:24.04 | BoltR | hugo, aguf has portrait support now |
| 23:24.27 | eternally777 | [FH]Birdemani: I see what happened, all the modules were made internals |
| 23:24.54 | BoltR | And PinPoint is a gatherer replacement being made, but it doesn't have anything done on the minimap yet |
| 23:25.08 | pastamancer | hugo: that's not aguf |
| 23:25.36 | hugo | BoltR cool i update ag then ;] |
| 23:25.47 | hugo | yeah pastamancer someome told me its nurfed with palagrim layout |
| 23:26.15 | pastamancer | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Image:Ag_UnitFrames.jpg that's aguf with portraits |
| 23:27.02 | hugo | that looks nice :) |
| 23:27.23 | hugo | you know i miss one think on all the new style unitframes to switch from original one's |
| 23:27.32 | hugo | but i don't know how to code it :D |
| 23:27.50 | pastamancer | what do you miss? |
| 23:27.53 | hugo | i dont like all the numbers on screen, i want only smarthp, but to show health and mana when i hover mouse over the frame |
| 23:28.20 | pastamancer | ah, that's an interesting idea |
| 23:28.27 | hugo | to see the curhp/maxhp and curmana/maxmana |
| 23:28.52 | hugo | well it makes the screen more eye candy then all the numbers :) |
| 23:29.54 | hugo | that was for party/player/target frame |
| 23:30.21 | Xuerian | What? Not showing the MAXIMUM amount of information, cramming digits into vertices left and right? WHAT BLASPHEMY IS THIS?! |
| 23:30.28 | hugo | for raid frames there would be usefull two binds, one ti hide all the frames if you want to, and second keybind to show the maxhp if you want to check if all player got the req. HP |
| 23:30.56 | maia | woot: sneak Grid preview: Grid in action (without enabled borders/corners, as they have no logic yet): http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8502/bild7sx0.png and border/corner demo (screenshotted earlier): http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6020/bild3bn2.png |
| 23:31.04 | hugo | yeah Xuerian you dont need the numbers always.. smarthp is excelent.. but sometime u do .. u see |
| 23:32.05 | Xuerian | lol, I know. And Mia: Is this my new world? I had just gotten settled in the one where the furnature moved around and faded and flashed angry red names at me. |
| 23:32.18 | yacoob | maia, neat! |
| 23:32.28 | Xuerian | s/Mia/maia/ |
| 23:32.30 | yacoob | Though with initial leters (names?) it looks like a periodic table :D |
| 23:32.38 | maia | ya it does :) |
| 23:32.49 | maia | wanted to try names, and it seems to work |
| 23:33.16 | Xuerian | It does look nice though o_O.... A bit to get used to but way the heck better than sorting through everything. very nice =D |
| 23:33.17 | maia | so its only "neat"? :) |
| 23:33.33 | Xuerian | "Very nice" :P |
| 23:33.42 | yacoob | hm... lemme describe it with UT2004 terminology |
| 23:33.44 | yacoob | "HEADSHOT!" |
| 23:33.46 | deci | ~whalehug maia |
| 23:33.49 | purl | ACTION Persuades a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh to hug maia |
| 23:33.49 | Xuerian | XD |
| 23:33.49 | yacoob | :> |
| 23:33.54 | pastamancer | it makes me want to stop adding features to aguf and start helping with Grid |
| 23:34.07 | maia | pastamancer: you're welcome! |
| 23:34.22 | pastamancer | are you using rosterlib? |
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| 23:34.39 | maia | pastamancer: I've just seen your long post in the thread - going to read it in a few min. rosterlib is already integrated. |
| 23:34.47 | pastamancer | neat |
| 23:35.06 | maia | pastamancer: so you'd want to OO it? |
| 23:35.17 | pastamancer | yeah |
| 23:35.17 | yacoob | make a grid out of it! |
| 23:35.21 | yacoob | ...wait... |
| 23:35.44 | pastamancer | have a few default modules, and then let users go nuts |
| 23:35.54 | Kaelten | I wish people would stop freaking out so bad |
| 23:36.42 | yacoob | 'click here to go nuts' |
| 23:36.48 | yacoob | er, like this? :) |
| 23:37.06 | hugo | pastamancer > i think ag unit are best frames avail yet :) |
| 23:37.12 | maia | pastamancer: well, I'd really appreciate your help. my code works, but its certainly not streamlined, and I have no clue on how to really write OO code. |
| 23:37.24 | hugo | just need few more opts and key bindings for me :P |
| 23:37.29 | yacoob | BTW, I wonder why there are no such nice items for pvp at higher levels? For low lvl quests you get things like really sticky glue, bag of marbles, and so on |
| 23:37.53 | pastamancer | I'd also want the frame to decide how to display status events rather than the status event plugin, that way frames can be more creative |
| 23:38.44 | hugo | i'd want to know code lua :D:S |
| 23:39.37 | maia | pastamancer: your nick isnt registered with irc, right? |
| 23:39.41 | hugo | or just learn how to modify the ag_unitframes, but im too much hardcore player to learn it :O |
| 23:39.42 | pastamancer | ya |
| 23:40.00 | pastamancer | I probably should though |
| 23:40.10 | maia | well, I sent you a tell a minute ago |
| 23:40.23 | pastamancer | I saw it, but I guess you didn't see my reply |
| 23:40.43 | maia | nope, didnt see it. hmm. |
| 23:40.55 | maia | I'm registered though. |
| 23:41.08 | pastamancer | is it /quote nickserv register or /msg nickserv register? |
| 23:41.33 | yacoob | the latter |
| 23:41.33 | maia | must be something similar to /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password> |
| 23:41.48 | yacoob | maia, this is when you're already registered |
| 23:41.57 | pastamancer | time to update my irssi settings again |
| 23:42.06 | maia | I know - its the only thing I could copy&paste real quick ;) |
| 23:42.24 | Xuerian | */nickserv register <password> // /nickserv ident <password> o_O |
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| 23:52.40 | pastamancer | Xuerian: thanks, I'm set |
| 23:55.51 | Xuerian | =D |
| 23:57.21 | snurre | omg, remind me of buying a real router kthx |
| 23:57.37 | snurre | "Merci de ne pas débrancher la Livebox pendant la mise à jour." |
| 23:57.44 | snurre | and it starts dl'ing firmware just randomly |
| 23:57.56 | snurre | so i cant do anything while it does it :( |
| 23:57.56 | hugo | pastamancer: the portrait works in ABF layout right ? |
| 23:58.37 | pastamancer | hugo: I'd hope so, that's the default layout |
| 23:58.44 | pastamancer | I haven't tested it personally though |
| 23:59.03 | [FH]Birdemani | they do |
| 23:59.08 | [FH]Birdemani | abf is what I use |
| 23:59.39 | hugo | yeah works for me too |
| 23:59.45 | hugo | in the default one |
| 23:59.50 | hugo | nice one ;] |
