irclog2html for #wowace on 20061014

`00:00.52`	`Industrial`	`damnit blizzard screwed up`
`00:00.58`	`*** join/#wowace Zeryl (i=Zeryl@75-132-127-218.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)`
`00:01.11`	`Industrial`	`cant play on 1.12.2 (EU) with the current enUS (1.12.1) client`
`00:01.12`	`*** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@c-24-127-197-121.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)`
`00:01.20`	`Industrial`	`any way to fake that? :P`
`00:03.05`	`mjc`	`any liberal arts nerds around?`
`00:03.24`	`Industrial`	`mjc: where did you go yesterday?`
`00:03.35`	`mjc`	`Industrial: to sleep?`
`00:03.35`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`00:03.41`	`Industrial`	`you never told me...`
`00:03.46`	`mjc`	`I passed out`
`00:03.53`	`Industrial`	`doh`
`00:04.14`	`mjc`	`Industrial: they pulled bottomfeeder: (`
`00:05.18`	`Industrial`	`i got it`
`00:05.22`	`*** join/#wowace Jens (n=jens@unaffiliated/jens)`
`00:05.29`	`Industrial`	`want?`
`00:05.35`	`*** join/#wowace Sole_ (n=no@203.109.213.247)`
`00:05.37`	`mjc`	`I have it too`
`00:05.39`	`Zeryl`	`what's bottomfeeder?`
`00:05.41`	`Industrial`	`k`
`00:05.47`	`Industrial`	`Zeryl: nothing :>`
`00:05.52`	`mjc`	`nothing at ll`
`00:05.55`	`Zeryl`	`bah`
`00:06.45`	`Xuerian\|Pizzfoo`	`Zeryl: It's what it sounds like, and it's a auctionhouse addon. It scans for auctions where you'd make money easily (DE'ing, vendoring), and displays them for bidding with profit #'s. :P`
`00:06.55`	`Zeryl`	`ahh`
`00:07.23`	`Zeryl`	`would be nice to have`
`00:10.30`	`*** join/#wowace Skyboat (i=t@82-33-30-102.cable.ubr02.stav.blueyonder.co.uk)`
`00:15.50`	`yacoob`	`oh, lovely`
`00:16.00`	`yacoob`	`account management page reloads itself in loop`
`00:23.59`	`*** join/#wowace FroMaster (i=FroMaste@rrcs-24-199-20-58.west.biz.rr.com)`
`00:24.55`	`kb1ibt`	`ii wonder why they pulled it? it seems like there was a big enough feud about it on their forums`
`00:26.14`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r13847 10AutoTurnin/ (5 files): AutoTurnin: - initial import`
`00:29.15`	`DrDre`	`because blizz said they didnt like it and they gave in and took it off`
`00:29.28`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r13848 10AutoTurnin/: AutoTurnin:loading externals`
`00:32.29`	`Ghent--`	`who's "they" just out of curiousity?`
`00:34.56`	`Xuerian`	`The Auctioneer team, whoever's at the helm :P`
`00:35.56`	`Ghent`	`hrm`
`00:36.57`	`*** join/#wowace ScriptNinja0 (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)`
`00:37.42`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r13849 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua:`
`00:37.42`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames`
`00:37.42`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:37.46`	`*** join/#wowace ScriptNinja0 (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)`
`00:38.12`	`Ghent`	`hrm, no cache`
`00:38.17`	`Ghent`	`anyone mind giving me a copy? :D`
`00:38.53`	`kergoth`	`Ghent: the zip is still on the auctioneer site`
`00:38.55`	`kb1ibt`	`gimme a sec i was going to put it up w/ the auctioneer pack i downloaded yesterday`
`00:38.56`	`kergoth`	`just slightly hidden`
`00:39.05`	`kergoth`	`its in the "btmblah" directory in the downloads`
`00:39.10`	`kergoth`	`instead of btmfeed, where it was originally`
`00:39.17`	`Ghent`	`kergoth, I <3 you`
`00:39.21`	`kergoth`	`;)`
`00:39.22`	`kergoth`	`have fun`
`00:40.07`	`Ghent`	`kergoth, if I were a woman, and hot... would you consider having my babies?`
`00:40.26`	`kb1ibt`	`http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/btmblah/`
`00:41.10`	`Ghent`	`sadly,I don't even know why I care... I haven't logged in for almost 3 weeks`
`00:41.19`	`Ghent`	`I think I just like having copies of things that people aren't supposed to have`
`00:41.24`	`Zeryl`	`heh`
`00:41.33`	`kb1ibt`	`other than last night i haven't logged onto live in almost that long`
`00:41.37`	`Ghent`	`like that 5 line perl script that removes DVD encryption`
`00:41.45`	`Ghent`	`can't remember the name of it`
`00:41.55`	`kb1ibt`	`DeCSS`
`00:42.00`	`Ghent`	`that's it`
`00:42.03`	`Ghent`	`I have that somewhere`
`00:42.25`	`Ghent`	`lost in the nether regions of one of my hard drives`
`00:42.30`	`Ghent`	`lol I don't even know which one.`
`00:43.26`	`Zeryl`	`i almost bought the shirt ):`
`00:43.28`	`Zeryl`	`:)`
`00:43.36`	`Ghent`	`hah!`
`00:43.44`	`Zeryl`	`i love the fact that people got it tattoo'd on em`
`00:43.50`	`Zeryl`	`i'd like to see them take that away, LOL`
`00:45.42`	`Ghent`	`oh man, I need to find a picture of that`
`00:47.54`	`Zeryl`	`here's the rsa code - http://www.cypherspace.org/adam/rsa/tattoo1s.jpg`
`00:48.23`	`*** join/#wowace Modulo (i=Modules@hill-b-152.resnet.purdue.edu)`
`00:48.34`	`CIA-17`	`03sano * r13850 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ClosetGnome_Zone.toc: ClosetGnomeZone: Added svnextern:keywords`
`01:00.14`	`ckknight`	`I need 3 goals`
`01:00.25`	`ckknight`	`blah...`
`01:01.12`	`andreasg`	`goals?`
`01:01.50`	`ckknight`	`2 goals now`
`01:02.01`	`ckknight`	`yea, like life goals or work goals, or whatever`
`01:02.34`	`*** join/#wowace Parak (i=PROFI@user-387g1cd.cable.mindspring.com)`
`01:02.52`	`ckknight`	`and I can't put down anything illegal, like rape`
`01:04.33`	`yacoob`	`world domination, fast.`
`01:04.47`	`yacoob`	`:)`
`01:09.10`	`Ziegler`	`ckk: ah come now, those are so easy to BS it's not even funny`
`01:10.32`	`ckknight`	`gimme one.`
`01:10.32`	`Ziegler`	`what do you do?`
`01:10.32`	`ckknight`	`I go to school`
`01:10.32`	`Ziegler`	`well that's a bit confusing then`
`01:10.32`	`Ziegler`	`normally that's part of a job review`
`01:10.32`	`ckknight`	`I'm a software developer`
`01:10.33`	`ckknight`	`and technician`
`01:10.33`	`ckknight`	`according to the card with my name on it in my wallet`
`01:10.33`	`Ziegler`	`what's the "purpose" though, who's evaluating you on it?`
`01:10.35`	`ckknight`	`Communication 1000`
`01:10.38`	`Ziegler`	`ah!`
`01:10.47`	`Ziegler`	`that makes more sense`
`01:10.56`	`Ziegler`	`I always wondered where those HR fucks came up with that stuff`
`01:11.15`	`ckknight`	`1)Attain financial independence and sustenance. 2)Achieve immortality 3)Make enough people depend on me, so that if I were to die, it'd be a tragedy. 4)Participate in a manage-a-trois 5)Get a law, postulate, algorithm, or method named after me 6)Get a job that people pay me to do, even though I would rather pay to do it myself.`
`01:11.17`	`ckknight`	`I need 1 more`
`01:11.33`	`Ziegler`	`I like #2`
`01:11.49`	`ckknight`	`yea, it doesn't necessarily mean living forever`
`01:11.59`	`ckknight`	`you can achieve immortality through the status of celebrity`
`01:12.00`	`Ziegler`	`well of course not, if you get your head cut off, game over`
`01:12.26`	`Ziegler`	`#4 kind of ruins a suggestion`
`01:12.31`	`Ghent`	`ckk, what's this for?`
`01:12.35`	`ckknight`	`Communication 1000`
`01:12.43`	`ckknight`	`maybe "Become as God" would be a good goal`
`01:12.51`	`Ziegler`	`you could always throw in something about making your family proud or giving back to them for what they gave you as a youth`
`01:12.51`	`Ziegler`	`etc`
`01:12.58`	`Ghent`	`'become a deity' would sound better`
`01:13.03`	`Ziegler`	`personal fitness type things could get in there too`
`01:13.10`	`Ghent`	`and #4 is misspelt, if you care`
`01:13.10`	`Ziegler`	`healthy, balanced, yada`
`01:13.11`	`ckknight`	`Ghent, according to my religion, I already am`
`01:13.18`	`ckknight`	`how is it misspelled?`
`01:13.25`	`Ziegler`	`menage`
`01:13.26`	`Ghent`	`ckk, then obivously you're well on your way to achieving your goal`
`01:13.28`	`Ziegler`	`I think`
`01:13.36`	`ckknight`	`also, Ziegler, my family kicked me out when I was 13 :-P`
`01:13.41`	`Ziegler`	`ok`
`01:13.43`	`Ziegler`	`so swing it around`
`01:13.50`	`Ziegler`	`showing my family that they fscked up`
`01:13.51`	`Ziegler`	`etc`
`01:13.54`	`ckknight`	`you're right, it's Ménage à trois`
`01:14.15`	`Ghent`	`you could expand your goal then to say 'become a multi-theologically recognized deity' :o`
`01:14.19`	`Xuerian`	`Why not just say a threesome?`
`01:14.21`	`Xuerian`	`>_>`
`01:14.33`	`Ghent`	`because speaking in French just sounds cool`
`01:14.35`	`Ziegler`	`ckk: travelling is a good one too, absorbing cultures, etc`
`01:14.35`	`Xuerian`	`:P`
`01:14.39`	`Ghent`	`this is Communications class!`
`01:14.42`	`Ziegler`	`even if you don't really want to`
`01:14.48`	`ckknight`	`nah, I'm just going with "Become as God"`
`01:14.54`	`ckknight`	`I don't care much for travel`
`01:15.00`	`Ghent`	`who's god, though?`
`01:15.20`	`ckknight`	`well, with the capital G, it refers to the Judeo-Christian god`
`01:15.28`	`Ghent`	`kk`
`01:15.47`	`eternally777`	`So, is there a way to disable the tooltips over agUF frames?`
`01:16.01`	`Ziegler`	`but yeah, the basic BS guidelines for those would be like: family, love, money, health, fame, freedom`
`01:16.11`	`Ziegler`	`if that's not enough topics you're not very good at BS`
`01:16.26`	`ckknight`	`Family, Friends, and Religion: These are the three demons you must slay to become a success.`
`01:16.35`	`Ziegler`	`or screw`
`01:16.39`	`Xuerian`	`Uh.`
`01:16.40`	`Ziegler`	`again, you can swing it either way`
`01:16.49`	`pastamancer`	`do I need to poke anyone about getting a svn account after signing the wiki page and sending an email to the google group?`
`01:16.52`	`ckknight`	`</simpsons quote>`
`01:16.53`	`Ghent`	`having specified that, you understand that one in particular may be extremely difficult to achieve even in relation to the others, since most Christian religions specifically state that worshipping false idols is bad :D`
`01:17.13`	`Xuerian`	`As god, not necessarily referred to as a god :)`
`01:17.33`	`ckknight`	`Becoming as God refers to a powergrab`
`01:18.15`	`ckknight`	`whatever, I'm going with "Live to see the next century"`
`01:18.28`	`Ghent`	`xnice`
`01:18.32`	`Xuerian`	`Mmm, that's good. Seeing as I have no goals for myself, it was rather interesting to think of some for you XD`
`01:18.47`	`ckknight`	`off to print.`
`01:18.52`	`LSAlizia2`	`Hum.`
`01:19.03`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: Kill Bill style?`
`01:19.07`	`LSAlizia2`	`Doesnt flickr have like...www.flickr.com/username?`
`01:19.31`	`Ziegler`	`ook`
`01:19.33`	`Ziegler`	`er, ooh!`
`01:19.42`	`Ziegler`	`ckk: prevent a 3rd bush from taking office!`
`01:20.05`	`Ghent`	`dear god, please.`
`01:20.08`	`Ghent`	`please please plaease.`
`01:20.18`	`Ziegler`	`and this from a Belgian`
`01:20.23`	`Xuerian`	`I'm moving to canada if that happens`
`01:20.33`	`Ziegler`	`oh yeah, that would help`
`01:20.34`	`Ziegler`	`?`
`01:20.37`	`Xuerian`	`In leu of somewhere further away`
`01:20.41`	`Xuerian`	`Not you`
`01:20.44`	`Xuerian`	`It'd help me XD`
`01:20.47`	`Ziegler`	`how?`
`01:20.53`	`Xuerian`	`Hm`
`01:20.55`	`Ziegler`	`it's not like Canada is exactly a big swinging political wang`
`01:20.55`	`Xuerian`	`Not sure.`
`01:21.08`	`Xuerian`	`I don't really care for the political wang`
`01:21.12`	`Xuerian`	`So long as I'm not getting jizzed on`
`01:21.22`	`haste`	`heh`
`01:21.29`	`haste`	`I joined a guild group for WSG and AB`
`01:21.31`	`Ziegler`	`politically, if you're not the one jizzing, you're getting jizzed on`
`01:21.34`	`haste`	`I'm Mr. PvP Carebear :D`
`01:22.01`	`Xuerian`	`Heheh, what do you do then, haste? :P`
`01:22.15`	`Xuerian`	`yeah well, Ziegler, I don't tend to jizz politically, so I get out of the way`
`01:22.16`	`haste`	`Oh noes! KAzzak fixed`
`01:22.19`	`Xuerian`	`Or just ignore it...`
`01:22.20`	`haste`	`and ammo isn't there :(`
`01:22.25`	`*** join/#wowace Ghent-- (n=Ghent@209.8.41.191)`
`01:22.30`	`haste`	`I usually go aFK when someone attack me`
`01:22.34`	`*** part/#wowace Ghent (n=Ghent@209.8.41.191)`
`01:22.37`	`haste`	`I'm also partly drunk right now`
`01:22.40`	`Xuerian`	`haha, what class?`
`01:22.42`	`haste`	`sp t's all good`
`01:22.45`	`haste`	`so it's*`
`01:22.47`	`haste`	`Rogue`
`01:22.50`	`yacoob`	`fix the "partly" thing`
`01:22.51`	`yacoob`	`:)`
`01:22.57`	`Xuerian`	`>_<`
`01:23.04`	`Ziegler`	`btw, anyone know of a UI mod that will add pvp log counts to tooltips?`
`01:23.09`	`*** join/#wowace malreth (n=triti@cpe-72-179-20-11.austin.res.rr.com)`
`01:23.18`	`Xuerian`	`fubar_honorfu does it doesn't it?`
`01:23.24`	`haste`	`yacoob: working on it as we speak!`
`01:23.26`	`*** join/#wowace malreth (n=triti@cpe-72-179-20-11.austin.res.rr.com)`
`01:23.28`	`Ziegler`	`I don't know, does it?`
`01:23.34`	`yacoob`	`yup, combine it with tinytip and you're good`
`01:23.37`	`haste`	`still have three more casn`
`01:23.38`	`ckknight`	`yea, it does, Ziegler`
`01:23.40`	`Ziegler`	`awesome`
`01:23.47`	`Xuerian`	`There's your answer, straight from the author's fingers :P`
`01:24.30`	`Ziegler`	`oh nice, I don't think I ever even looked at this one`
`01:24.42`	`Ziegler`	`my bar is getting crowded`
`01:24.47`	`haste`	`Xuerian: It's my alt tho'`
`01:26.03`	`Xuerian`	`Haha, well, still, afk'ing? :P`
`01:26.14`	`Ziegler`	`is it possible/desirable for the svn files tree to have a changelog added to the subdirs?`
`01:26.16`	`haste`	`no :p`
`01:26.20`	`haste`	`I'm hitting on things`
`01:26.21`	`Xuerian`	`Even I zerg as my druid! "Oooh they're all at the lumber mill, and I have one teammate with me! CHARGE!!!!!!"`
`01:26.25`	`haste`	`not going to well toh' :(`
`01:28.21`	`yacoob`	`cheers!`
`01:30.33`	`LSAlizia2`	I`ve made some screenshots from the beta if anyone is interested in having a look.
`01:30.43`	`haste`	`my rogue doesn't have a pvp spec at all tho' p`
`01:30.44`	`haste`	`it's 100% PvE`
`01:31.05`	`yacoob`	`Ghent, nice AoE.`
`01:31.07`	`ckknight`	`LSAlizia2, I'd be interested in a proper enUS beta key ;-)`
`01:31.11`	`LSAlizia2`	`haha`
`01:31.12`	`Ghent`	`why, thank you`
`01:31.13`	`Xuerian`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:31.26`	`Ghent`	`I had to 31 spec for the talent`
`01:31.31`	`yacoob`	`ohh, nice debuffs she has...`
`01:31.36`	`LSAlizia2`	`http://www.flickr.com/photos/41138904@N00/`
`01:31.37`	`LSAlizia2`	`they suck.`
`01:31.41`	`LSAlizia2`	`since I have no addons :(`
`01:32.37`	`Industrial`	`http://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_101406_032716e9b.jpg`
`01:32.37`	`Industrial`	`http://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_101406_03271886d.jpg`
`01:32.42`	`Industrial`	`blizzard smokes crack`
`01:33.19`	`yacoob`	`"Maintenance underway, please be patient"?`
`01:33.36`	`haste`	`aw, we're loosing :(`
`01:33.46`	`Xuerian`	`LSAlizia2: Don't they kick people from flickr for posting screenshots?`
`01:33.55`	`LSAlizia2`	`Why would they do that?`
`01:34.10`	`Xuerian`	`Meant for real pictures only? duno. I might be mistaken :P`
`01:34.17`	`LSAlizia2`	`o.O`
`01:34.20`	`LSAlizia2`	`Fuck.dat`
`01:34.23`	`Xuerian`	`XD`
`01:36.37`	`*** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)`
`01:36.54`	`Ziegler`	`not often you run into a NE druid in Undercity, by himself...`
`01:37.05`	`Ghent`	`I tell ya`
`01:37.14`	`Ziegler`	`I actually didn't kill him because I was too busy looking around for his friends while he ran off`
`01:37.30`	`Ghent`	`there's nothing more fun then running around UC with imp sap and camo sapping people`
`01:37.39`	`Ghent`	`while the 60's run around trying to find you`
`01:37.59`	`Ziegler`	`hah`
`01:38.07`	`Ghent`	`especially when you hit the lowbies`
`01:38.12`	`Ghent`	`cuz they start crying in /1`
`01:38.39`	`Ziegler`	`/1?`
`01:38.40`	`Ghent`	`I sleep well after 2-3 hours of that`
`01:38.43`	`Ghent`	`General channel`
`01:38.47`	`Ziegler`	`ohh`
`01:38.56`	`Ziegler`	`I turned that off like my first day playing, never been back on since`
`01:39.51`	`pastamancer`	`Ziegler: how will you ever find Mankrik's Wife if you don't ask the barrens general chat every 5 minutes?!`
`01:40.04`	`Ziegler`	`I think that was actually what triggered it!`
`01:40.07`	`pastamancer`	`I certainly couldn't live without general`
`01:40.13`	`pastamancer`	`haha`
`01:40.27`	`Ghent`	`same`
`01:40.35`	`Ziegler`	`"N E 1 now where 2 find mankirks wife?!"`
`01:40.40`	`pastamancer`	`I wrote (and then lost) and addon that would automatically leave general when I zoned into the barrens`
`01:40.42`	`Ghent`	`provides extreme entertainment`
`01:40.44`	`cladhaire`	`pastamancer: Do you have a solution to my issue? =)`
`01:40.47`	`pastamancer`	`and it would rejoin when I left`
`01:40.54`	`LSAlizia2`	`Oh.`
`01:40.55`	`pastamancer`	`cladhaire: eh?`
`01:40.56`	`LSAlizia2`	`And I have to say.`
`01:41.01`	`LSAlizia2`	`Singstar PWNS ASS! xD`
`01:41.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`"stop fucking around and start focusing on the raid"`
`01:41.04`	`pastamancer`	`oh, I see`
`01:41.06`	`pastamancer`	`hand ong`
`01:41.10`	`Ziegler`	`the barrens weren't as bad, org is awful though`
`01:41.11`	`cladhaire`	`pastamancer: I just want no automatic indenting.. any way how to turn that off in lua-mode?`
`01:41.11`	`pastamancer`	`err, hang on`
`01:41.11`	`LSAlizia2`	`I ended up being the Superstar off the night xD`
`01:41.21`	`Ghent`	`hey clad, I wasn't sure if I got disconnected the other day, but I had a question/suggestion for you?`
`01:41.36`	`cladhaire`	`Ghent: Sure, shoot`
`01:41.44`	`pastamancer`	`yeah, I'd have to look it up though`
`01:41.59`	`cladhaire`	`np, just if you happen on it.`
`01:42.07`	`Ghent`	`is there any possibility of getting automated <addon-name>-latest.zip symlinked to the latest release in the files section?`
`01:42.19`	`cladhaire`	`....`
`01:42.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`having somebody run the quizbot in bwl general chat was probably one of the funniest things ive seen people do in wow`
`01:42.31`	`cladhaire`	`it alreasy is, as <addon-name>.zip`
`01:42.33`	`pastamancer`	`(setq lua-electric-flag nil)`
`01:42.38`	`Ghent`	`...`
`01:42.40`	`cladhaire`	`pastamancer: tried that.`
`01:42.57`	`LSAlizia2`	`caaaaaause we are liiiiiving in a mysterioooous world.`
`01:43.00`	`LSAlizia2`	`Ok, time for bed xD`
`01:43.00`	`pastamancer`	`did you setq it before loading lua-mode?`
`01:43.08`	`Xuerian`	`'night LSAlizia2 :P`
`01:43.10`	`cladhaire`	`yeah, i turned it of fin the lua-mode`
`01:43.11`	`pastamancer`	`it's buffer-local`
`01:43.15`	`pastamancer`	`oh`
`01:43.23`	`Industrial`	`< pastamancer> Ziegler: how will you ever find Mankrik's Wife if you don't ask the barrens general chat every 5 minutes?!`
`01:43.27`	`Industrial`	`LOL`
`01:43.30`	`Ghent`	`okay, whew`
`01:43.31`	`Ghent`	`I'm not`
`01:43.38`	`Ghent`	`Clad, I don't see one in my dir`
`01:43.39`	`Xuerian`	`0_o`
`01:43.43`	`cladhaire`	`Ghent: Go to it, its there.`
`01:43.48`	`cladhaire`	`it may not show up in that damn script`
`01:43.48`	`Ghent`	`(I admit that I didn't check others)`
`01:43.50`	`cladhaire`	`bt i didn't want the script there.`
`01:43.58`	`Xuerian`	`http://wowace.com/files/XLoot/XLoot.zip works just fine for me Ghent :P`
`01:44.05`	`Ghent`	`oh`
`01:44.12`	`Ghent`	`so the file is there it just doesn't show up in the list?`
`01:44.18`	`cladhaire`	`i guess`
`01:44.26`	`Xuerian`	`it shows up in the list I use 0_o`
`01:44.55`	`Ghent`	`http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=JackKnife/`
`01:45.22`	`Ghent`	`doesn't show in mine`
`01:45.22`	`Ghent`	`but the link does indeed work`
`01:45.22`	`cladhaire`	`it won't show in the script.`
`01:45.22`	`cladhaire`	`its a hack`
`01:45.22`	`cladhaire`	`like the whole thing =)`
`01:45.22`	`Ghent`	`clad, cool cool, my apologies for the confusion :D`
`01:45.22`	`cladhaire`	`np =)`
`01:45.28`	`haste`	`we lost :(`
`01:45.32`	`pastamancer`	`cladhaire: (setq-default lua-electric-flag nil) ; or C-C C-l`
`01:45.41`	`pastamancer`	`that's the best I can figure`
`01:46.02`	`Xuerian`	`ghent: if you browse like http://wowace.com/files/JackKnife it'll show though`
`01:46.11`	`Xuerian`	`Just not the 'tarded script :)`
`01:46.16`	`cladhaire`	`pastamancer: hrm.. okay`
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`01:47.48`	`pastamancer`	`oh, C-c C-l isn't the same as in c-mode`
`01:47.56`	`cladhaire`	`nah.. still does it. you can test by doing local monkey = function(), hitting return then pressing tab`
`01:48.22`	`pastamancer`	`oh, that's not the electric indenting`
`01:48.38`	`pastamancer`	`that's a keybinding...`
`01:49.17`	`cladhaire`	`pastamancer: O.o`
`01:49.19`	`pastamancer`	`(add-hook 'lua-mode-hook (lambda () (local-set-key "\r" 'newline)))`
`01:49.25`	`cladhaire`	`i just want happy-normal intending =)`
`01:49.53`	`cladhaire`	`same issue.`
`01:50.02`	`cladhaire`	`its not the return that does it, its the tab`
`01:50.08`	`pastamancer`	`oh`
`01:50.22`	`pastamancer`	`(add-hook 'lua-mode-hook (lambda () (local-set-key "\t" 'tab))) perhaps`
`01:50.32`	`Ziegler`	`d/quit`
`01:50.34`	`Ziegler`	`darr`
`01:51.45`	`cladhaire`	`'tab is void =)`
`01:51.48`	`pastamancer`	`or if you dare, mess with lua-indent-line`
`01:51.50`	`cladhaire`	`no tab function`
`01:52.03`	`cladhaire`	`so either way, its nasty.. i guess i'll have to play with it =(`
`01:52.03`	`pastamancer`	`oh, I don't know what the function is to just get a tab`
`01:52.27`	`cladhaire`	`there's only tab-to-tab-stop`
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`01:53.17`	`cladhaire`	`I can deal with it, just wondered if you knew offhand =)`
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`01:54.13`	`pastamancer`	`nope`
`01:55.12`	`haste`	`think Ill skip coding tonight`
`01:55.49`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r13851 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Another one of those DB-upgrade things.`
`01:58.58`	`JoshBorke`	`does AceComm forward messages from the player back to the mods?`
`01:59.28`	`JoshBorke`	`that'd be no...`
`01:59.33`	`ckknight`	`nope`
`01:59.43`	`ckknight`	`you don't receive your own messages except by whisper`
`01:59.50`	`JoshBorke`	`mmk`
`01:59.56`	`JoshBorke`	`well, i'll just change that for testing :-D`
`02:01.39`	`JoshBorke`	`ckknight: thanks for the great mod :-)`
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`02:08.33`	`Kalamadi`	`~seen pastamancer`
`02:08.48`	`purl`	`pastamancer is currently on #wowace (7d 12h 7m 41s). Has said a total of 372 messages. Is idling for 14m 35s, last said: 'nope'.`
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`02:13.35`	`Tekkub`	`I have this urge to add loot tattle code to compost, since Cide never added it to CTRA :)`
`02:13.44`	`Tekkub`	`lots of people use Compost now`
`02:13.56`	`Tekkub`	`but it'll go away in 2.0`
`02:13.56`	`Xuerian`	`Loot tattle? o_0`
`02:13.57`	`Tekkub`	`bah`
`02:14.10`	`Tekkub`	`yea, just send an addon comm when a player opens a loot window`
`02:14.21`	`Tekkub`	`other addons can catch it, check combat, and bitch`
`02:14.29`	`Ghent`	`LOL`
`02:14.31`	`Xuerian`	`lol.`
`02:14.33`	`Tekkub`	`maybe we'll slip it into AceEvent`
`02:14.35`	`Ghent`	`god that would rock`
`02:14.36`	`Xuerian`	`Wouldn't mind that`
`02:14.40`	`Xuerian`	`would make my job easier with xloot`
`02:14.44`	`Silv`	`that would be hot`
`02:14.47`	`Tekkub`	`it's two lines of code and Cide didn't do it`
`02:14.55`	`Ghent`	`finally a way to figure out who to ban from ZG/AQ20 raids... :P`
`02:14.56`	`Xuerian`	`Since Sync is gonna monitor what's about to be looted by someone else :P`
`02:15.09`	`Tekkub`	`that's it.. I'll run it by ckk and kael first, but it'll prolly go in`
`02:15.31`	`Silv`	`more than once i've seen warriors looting trash while some caster is getting housed`
`02:15.32`	`Xuerian`	`Tekkub: Just tell me how to catch it and I'll add it to monitor, with optional angry red highlighting around rows when it's in combat`
`02:15.55`	`Tekkub`	`the player has to send the sync, so it needs to be in something mass-used`
`02:16.10`	`Xuerian`	`I know, but other mods can catch the sync, right? :P`
`02:16.17`	`Silv`	`should be in default UI :)`
`02:16.21`	`Silv`	`trigger an event`
`02:16.28`	`Tekkub`	`it should, but until then...`
`02:17.10`	`Silv`	`wtb 1 good warrior for 4horsemen:(`
`02:17.20`	`Silv`	`*geared`
`02:18.08`	`Kalamadi`	`Why not a good geared?`
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`02:19.28`	`Silv`	`that was an insert, sorry :`
`02:19.29`	`Silv`	`:(`
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`02:36.55`	`kb1ibt`	`i love when someone attempt to hack my router and i get notified quick enough that i can watch them doing it`
`02:37.50`	`Xuerian`	`haha`
`02:38.35`	`kb1ibt`	`this is one example of the logfile output from that attack`
`02:38.37`	`kb1ibt`	`Oct 14 02:28:09 (none) kern.info dropbear[31224]: Child connection from 204.157.15.189:55271`
`02:38.37`	`kb1ibt`	`Oct 14 02:28:10 (none) kern.warn dropbear[31224]: login attempt for nonexistent user from 204.157.15.189:55271`
`02:38.37`	`kb1ibt`	`Oct 14 02:28:11 (none) kern.info dropbear[31224]: exit before auth: Disconnect received`
`02:38.37`	`kb1ibt`	`O`
`02:39.00`	`Xuerian`	`:P`
`02:41.06`	`kb1ibt`	`but they gave up after about 100-200 attempts`
`02:41.47`	`kb1ibt`	`they hit the right user name about 5 times but never the right password`
`02:41.59`	`Xuerian`	`heheh`
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`02:45.36`	`kb1ibt`	`mjc: ping`
`02:46.00`	`kb1ibt`	`~seen mjc`
`02:46.11`	`purl`	`mjc is currently on #wowace (2h 44m 59s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 2h 40m 19s, last said: 'nothing at ll'.`
`02:47.53`	`That1Swede`	`On an off-chance.. anyone know if there's an option for agUF's party grouping to grow upwards instead of downwards?`
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`02:51.09`	`kb1ibt`	`i've been trying HydraIRC for about a month now and while yes it's channel monitor and private message monitor are nice overall i don't really like it, what do you guys use?`
`02:51.38`	`Kebinusan`	`I use hydra`
`02:51.49`	`Kebinusan`	`I can see text, I can type, good enough for me`
`02:51.56`	`That1Swede`	`... mIRC, and if I wasn't on a Windows box I'd be using irssi. ;P`
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`02:55.13`	`pastamancer`	`<3 irssi`
`02:55.30`	`kergoth`	`irssi rocks`
`02:55.51`	`That1Swede`	`Truly.`
`02:57.54`	`Kebinusan`	`Do you require promoted in raid to make Global Bigwigs custom bars?`
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`03:05.30`	`Silv`	`anyone know of a decent launcher available (with source) ? similar to something like cosmos`
`03:05.43`	`Silv`	`more or less though for purpose of updating 1-2 mods for guildies`
`03:05.56`	`Sole_`	`uhm`
`03:06.00`	`Sole_`	`Silv: WinAceUpdater`
`03:06.14`	`Sole_`	`its a program which will update any addon you have installed which is up on the SVN`
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`03:06.49`	`vurlix`	`unfortunately some of the addons in SVN don't even load because they're missing ace2 embedded libs >_>`
`03:06.51`	`BrandX`	`about to import my script to the svn (virgin experience), any last minute things I should do?`
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`03:07.33`	`Ghent`	`make sure you specify the directory`
`03:07.39`	`Ghent`	`like, don't import into the root :p`
`03:07.54`	`BrandX`	`yeah, i have the important and externals all sorted out`
`03:08.15`	`mjc`	`kb1ibt: pong`
`03:08.18`	`Ghent`	`well I mean, don't do an import into svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk`
`03:08.18`	`vurlix`	`or for example the SCT bundle actually has 4 mods in separate subdirectories, but they are extracted wrong`
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`03:08.30`	`Ghent`	`do svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/<addonname>`
`03:08.36`	`BrandX`	`yeah, i did that on the sandbox svn first and learned my lesson =p`
`03:08.41`	`Ghent`	`:D`
`03:08.57`	`Ghent`	`sounds like you're ready to break your cherry then ;)`
`03:09.08`	`BrandX`	`if I import into the devloper svn, do I also have to import onto the read-only svn?`
`03:09.15`	`Xuerian`	`Nope`
`03:09.21`	`BrandX`	`ok, thanks`
`03:11.05`	`kb1ibt_`	`mjc: you still there?`
`03:11.14`	`mjc`	`yep`
`03:11.31`	`kb1ibt_`	`you still working on gentoo stuff?`
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`03:12.35`	`kb1ibt`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:12.36`	`Ghent`	`mmm gentoo`
`03:12.41`	`kb1ibt`	`ack`
`03:12.42`	`Silv`	`owned`
`03:12.44`	`Ghent`	`gg :P`
`03:12.46`	`Ghent`	`lawls!!`
`03:13.07`	`Silv`	`its case insensitive btw, cept for the p/w:)`
`03:13.09`	`kb1ibt`	`ok... that's it no more xchat for me`
`03:13.17`	`deci`	`im in ur irc`
`03:13.19`	`deci`	`stealin ur nick`
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`03:13.54`	`CIA-17`	`03brandx * r13852 10HotTimer/ (. Core.lua HotTimer.toc HotTimer.xml Locals.lua bar.tga): Initial import.`
`03:14.02`	`kb1ibt`	`ok that sucked`
`03:16.20`	`kb1ibt`	`ok now that password is no longer valid`
`03:16.47`	`deci`	`its ok`
`03:16.48`	`deci`	`http://img.12chan.org/cat/src/1159587965947.jpg`
`03:18.53`	`kergoth`	`HotTimer?`
`03:19.00`	`kb1ibt`	`ok so as i was about to ask before xchat shat the bed on me...`
`03:19.00`	`kergoth`	`is that like hotcandy?`
`03:19.12`	`BrandX`	`not sure, is hot candy a hot tracking addon?`
`03:19.26`	`BrandX`	`heal over time`
`03:19.54`	`Kebinusan`	`./msg nickserv ghost kb1ibt R00tL0gin`
`03:20.02`	`Kalamadi`	`Is HotCandy like asscandy?`
`03:20.15`	`Kebinusan`	`heh`
`03:20.54`	`kb1ibt`	`mjc, is there anyway in gentoo to recieve a log from another computer then email based on what the contents of that log are?`
`03:21.11`	`mjc`	`kb1ibt: logwatch`
`03:21.40`	`kb1ibt`	`i thought logwatch only ran at night`
`03:22.08`	`mjc`	`cronjob`
`03:22.18`	`mjc`	`edit the time it runs on your own`
`03:22.45`	`kb1ibt`	`no i mean something more realtime not just at a defined time`
`03:24.36`	`mjc`	`you don't want to do that, trust me`
`03:24.46`	`mjc`	`just run it every minute or so`
`03:24.52`	`mjc`	`other option is nagios`
`03:25.04`	`CIA-17`	`03brandx * r13853 10HotTimer/Libs/: Externals step 1/2.`
`03:30.17`	`CIA-17`	`03brandx * r13854 10HotTimer/Libs/: Externals step 2/2.`
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`03:32.27`	`Ghent`	`kbkb, what're you using to log?`
`03:32.42`	`Ghent`	`metalog or other upgraded variants of syslog will do a lot of that`
`03:33.42`	`Ghent`	`however, if you're doing this in hopes of detecting hacking attempts, you'll want to install real IDS`
`03:33.45`	`Kebinusan`	`syslog-ng 4tw`
`03:33.48`	`Ghent`	`indeed`
`03:34.20`	`kb1ibt`	`syslog on a router and syslog-ng on the linux box`
`03:34.21`	`kergoth`	`BrandX: yes it is, it shows Heal over itme spells with candybars`
`03:34.35`	`BrandX`	`christ`
`03:34.44`	`Ghent`	`yes, my son?`
`03:34.53`	`BrandX`	`i pooped myself`
`03:35.04`	`Ghent`	`I'm afraid I can't help you there`
`03:35.11`	`BrandX`	`:/`
`03:35.17`	`kb1ibt`	`(router = WRT54G running OpenWRT)`
`03:37.01`	`Ghent`	`kb, are you trying to detect intrusion attempts?`
`03:38.27`	`kb1ibt`	`yes but more so if someone is sucessfull since i know looking back at the logs that they fail about 300 times during a week day and thousands of times on the wekend`
`03:38.41`	`Ghent`	`well, I would do what mjc suggested then`
`03:38.51`	`Ghent`	`use logwatch and cron it to parse the logs`
`03:39.09`	`mjc`	`run an IDS`
`03:39.13`	`mjc`	`not a log watcher`
`03:39.26`	`kb1ibt`	`i already have logwatch doing the nightly`
`03:39.47`	`kb1ibt`	`there isn't enough space on the router to handle a real IDS`
`03:40.15`	`Ghent`	`right`
`03:40.20`	`Ghent`	`nor enough processing power I would think`
`03:40.28`	`kb1ibt`	`nope`
`03:41.04`	`mjc`	`plenty of CPU on the router for snort`
`03:41.11`	`BrandX`	`well, hotcandy didn't exist a month ago when I wrote my addon, and mine has some fixes that it can't handle`
`03:41.13`	`mjc`	`I use it on a larger network than yours`
`03:41.33`	`BrandX`	`i wonder if I should just contact whoever wrote that addon and try to work something out`
`03:41.56`	`mjc`	`nevcairiel: ping`
`03:43.00`	`kb1ibt`	`mjc, last time i tried installing snort on my router it would crash after the prcessor maxed out`
`03:43.15`	`mjc`	`kb1ibt: user error`
`03:43.37`	`mjc`	`kb1ibt: 100mbit connection here, pushing nearly all of it`
`03:45.20`	`pastamancer`	`you're using a WRT54G on a 100Mbit connection?!`
`03:46.51`	`kb1ibt`	`pastamancer, i was scratching my head on that comment as well`
`03:46.55`	`mjc`	`pastamancer: yep.`
`03:47.02`	`mjc`	`pastamancer: 10 boxes`
`03:47.21`	`mjc`	`only one on wireless though`
`03:47.33`	`mjc`	`I've used them on larger installs too but not with this much b/w`
`03:47.41`	`pastamancer`	`external CSU/DSU then?`
`03:48.11`	`pastamancer`	`or is your 100Mbit connection someone else's lan?`
`03:48.23`	`mjc`	`it's FTTH, w/ a simple fiber->ether bridge`
`03:48.58`	`pastamancer`	`oh, residential fiber`
`03:49.00`	`mjc`	`fios equivalent`
`03:49.09`	`mjc`	`but much faster :)`
`03:49.17`	`kb1ibt`	`where do you live that they give 100Mbit ftth`
`03:49.53`	`mjc`	`fort lauderdale, fl. it's a test service comcast is considering rolling out`
`03:50.04`	`mjc`	`1,500 home test`
`03:50.09`	`kb1ibt`	`nice`
`03:50.46`	`mjc`	`contract is for a year, but it's a 50/50 shot whether they'll keep it after that`
`03:50.57`	`mjc`	`the only thing that sucks is no ipv6 yet`
`03:51.10`	`mjc`	`they said by december though`
`03:51.19`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`why do you need ipv6?`
`03:51.30`	`mjc`	`decreased overhead`
`03:51.47`	`mjc`	`extra 500K/s`
`03:52.19`	`kb1ibt`	`when you are pushing that much data around every bit counts :-)`
`03:52.52`	`mjc`	`hey, dude, it's a free residential standard cable install worth of bandwidth for a software change`
`03:53.20`	`CIA-17`	`03brandx * r13855 10HotTimer/Core.lua: Turned off debug output.`
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`04:01.14`	`Xuerian`	`Grr, where's ckk when you need him >_>`
`04:01.21`	`Kalamadi`	`Hiding.`
`04:01.33`	`Xuerian`	`Bah.`
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`04:22.45`	`Neebler`	`http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8782/lol41pteh2.png`
`04:22.48`	`Neebler`	`hardy har har`
`04:23.02`	`Neebler`	`soooo rerolling off of a rogue`
`04:23.57`	`Wobin`	`rol`
`04:24.00`	`Wobin`	`f`
`04:25.01`	`Sole`	`lol`
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`04:25.11`	`Sole`	`Im still keeping my rogue`
`04:25.15`	`Sole`	`just leveling a shad priest :)`
`04:25.36`	`Neebler`	`my first was a shadow priest, they're fun`
`04:25.39`	`Sole`	`or maybe a hunter`
`04:25.50`	`Neebler`	`can draenai or bloodelves be warlocks?`
`04:25.57`	`Ghent`	`BE can`
`04:25.58`	`Sole`	`i think BE can`
`04:26.31`	`Neebler`	`sigh, despite how much I hate elves, because of how popular and trendy they are. I guess I'll roll a BE warlock`
`04:26.40`	`Neebler`	`because I'm mindset on rolling one for BC`
`04:27.05`	`Neebler`	`I wonder how big of a ratio Bloodelves will be to Draenai`
`04:27.41`	`Neebler`	`my guess is over 1/2`
`04:28.26`	`Sole`	`imo dranei look pretty cool`
`04:28.45`	`Neebler`	`their mounts frighten me, they should give trample damage!`
`04:29.00`	`Sole`	`does anybody know what type of parserlib event scatter shot goes under?`
`04:29.02`	`Neebler`	`ooo special attacks on a mount, that idea needs to be implimented`
`04:29.11`	`Sole`	`well we`
`04:29.21`	`Sole`	`we'll be able to bomb a town from a flying mount`
`04:29.25`	`Sole`	`so thats getting there`
`04:29.27`	`Neebler`	`in one quest`
`04:29.34`	`Neebler`	`or so I read`
`04:29.35`	`Sole`	`well its a world pvp event...`
`04:29.39`	`Neebler`	`ah`
`04:29.55`	`Sole`	`the attacking faction has towers which put you up on a wyvern/gryphon and give you 10 bombs`
`04:30.10`	`Sole`	`then you bomb the town in the middle`
`04:30.17`	`Neebler`	`man just thinking of the possibilities for mount attacks reminds me of super mario kart`
`04:30.22`	`Neebler`	`the gnome mount dropping oil slicks`
`04:30.29`	`Sole`	`lol`
`04:30.30`	`mjc`	`lol`
`04:32.12`	`Sole`	`so nobody knows which event scatter shot and wyvern sting would be under with parserlib?`
`04:32.29`	`Sole`	`like info.type == "casts" or info.type == "hit" ?`
`04:32.42`	`Sole`	`gotta figure out if I have to add more parsing`
`04:36.20`	`Xuerian`	`~whalestab cide`
`04:36.21`	`purl`	`ACTION stabs cide with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery`
`04:37.48`	`Sole`	`lol`
`04:37.52`	`Sole`	`whatd cide do now?`
`04:38.04`	`Sole`	`have you found out something about ctra2?`
`04:39.04`	`Xuerian`	`No, the #wowi-lounge channel :P`
`04:39.17`	`Sole`	`is it on this network?`
`04:39.22`	`Xuerian`	`Yeah`
`04:39.38`	`Sole`	`whatd he say?`
`04:39.43`	`Xuerian`	`It's over now, he was right, just being annoying and I felt like stabbing something :P`
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`04:53.07`	`kergoth`	`what the fuck`
`04:53.12`	`kergoth`	`suddenly the shardace icons are mispositioned`
`04:53.18`	`kergoth`	`they're in the middle of my minimap, cant see shit`
`04:53.58`	`kergoth`	`selecting the different positions does absolutely nothing`
`04:55.22`	`mjc`	`heh`
`04:57.31`	`kergoth`	`it used to work.. and i didnt change anything with those`
`04:57.33`	`kergoth`	`what the hell`
`04:59.08`	`CIA-17`	`03xuerian * r13857 10XLootMonitor/ (XLootMonitor.toc localization.frFR.lua): XLootMonitor: Added frFR localization thanks to Cinedelle`
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`05:03.18`	`mjc`	`kergoth: 75G and counting`
`05:04.46`	`kergoth`	`nice`
`05:04.58`	`kergoth`	`i havent left mine there, i just go to the ah occasionally`
`05:05.03`	`mjc`	`not a lot of AH pages on my server compared to some others`
`05:05.12`	`mjc`	`only like 130`
`05:06.00`	`mjc`	`I'm told the weekend average is 350 allience`
`05:06.00`	`mjc`	`alliance`
`05:06.08`	`mjc`	`kergoth: you're better off using auctioneer's search rather than bf then, bf monitors the newest auctions :/`
`05:07.22`	`mjc`	`I hope there aren't many other bf users on my server. that'd suck`
`05:07.37`	`montyq`	`do any of you guys have any clue how to change the font for FuBar? I just want to make it bold :(`
`05:08.42`	`Industrial`	`Why do they call it a "building"? It looks like they're finished. Why isn't it a "built"?`
`05:08.57`	`Industrial`	`People who read the tabloids deserve to be lied to.`
`05:08.59`	`Industrial`	`haha`
`05:09.06`	`Industrial`	`seinfeld wins`
`05:09.08`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`05:09.19`	`kergoth`	`this is weird. it does a clearallpoints and a setpoint on the shardace icon frame, yet it just sitst here`
`05:09.21`	`kergoth`	`nada`
`05:09.55`	`Wobin`	`Seinfield sucks`
`05:10.04`	`Industrial`	`seinfeld > oyu`
`05:10.08`	`Industrial`	`and you!`
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`05:10.28`	`Industrial`	`I love that show if theres a torrent I want all of it`
`05:15.05`	`Wobin`	`Seinfield: <stupid joke that isn't even funny>`
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`05:15.11`	`Wobin`	`Rest of cast: <Same joke>`
`05:15.14`	`Wobin`	`<laugh track>`
`05:15.20`	`Xuerian`	`Me: <barf>`
`05:15.21`	`Wobin`	`Seinfield: <same joke>`
`05:15.29`	`Wobin`	`<laugh track>`
`05:15.33`	`Wobin`	`The End`
`05:16.29`	`Wobin`	`Most of Seinfields jokes can be summed up with "Hey, you know <X>, what's -with- that?!?!!?"`
`05:16.51`	`Wobin`	`And then beaten into the ground`
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`05:20.06`	`Wobin`	`mjc: Where can I get bf?`
`05:20.18`	`Wobin`	`and will it work of KCI info?`
`05:20.39`	`mjc`	`no`
`05:25.04`	`mjc`	`kci deosn't store enough data`
`05:25.10`	`mjc`	`for that kind of calculation`
`05:28.59`	`Industrial`	`Wobin: k fine link me something (video) that IS funny`
`05:29.13`	`Wobin`	`Anything but Seinfield? =)`
`05:29.25`	`Wobin`	`Most things British`
`05:29.33`	`Wobin`	`Eddie Izzard et al`
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`05:44.14`	`kergoth`	`kci stores just the average prices. auctioneer retains the info about every posted auction from your most recent scan, plus the averages`
`05:44.26`	`kergoth`	`afaik`
`05:44.32`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r13858 10XLoot/localization.koKR.lua: XLoot: Updated locals koKR`
`05:44.44`	`Xuerian`	`Way to catch up, CIA-17.`
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`05:50.35`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`05:50.57`	`Xuerian`	`Just the person I was looking for :P`
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`05:51.24`	`mjc`	`hey ck.`
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`05:52.17`	`mjc`	`yay`
`05:52.24`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: Is there some special way that checkmarks/radio buttons keep the texture they're set? Setting icon texture in the same place and different case seems to loose the icon whenever a execute is fired, till ui reload >_>`
`05:52.31`	`mjc`	`ckknight: meet sarah.`
`05:52.36`	`mjc`	`~lart sare`
`05:52.38`	`Xuerian`	`I looked over it all with a good few searches and didn't find anything =(`
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`05:53.22`	`Sole`	`hay`
`05:53.31`	`ckknight`	`mjc, sarah?`
`05:53.32`	`Sole`	`amplify curse - is it a buff on the lock or a debuff on the target?`
`05:53.45`	`mjc`	`ckknight: sare, aka my gf :)`
`05:53.50`	`ckknight`	`ah.`
`05:54.02`	`ckknight`	`pix?`
`05:54.03`	`mjc`	`http://sycozen.com/sarah`
`05:54.04`	`ckknight`	`jk`
`05:54.06`	`sare`	`hihi`
`05:54.11`	`mjc`	`ckknight: there you go :P`
`05:54.33`	`ckknight`	`cute.`
`05:54.40`	`Xuerian`	`Damn cute o_0`
`05:54.53`	`sare`	`o.O lol`
`05:54.54`	`Sole`	`cuet`
`05:54.58`	`ckknight`	`now I wouldn't've said damn cute, but cute nonetheless`
`05:55.07`	`Xuerian`	`Bah.`
`05:55.11`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight knows not what he says.`
`05:55.24`	`Sole`	`does anybody knows what ckknight says?`
`05:55.32`	`sare`	`oh me me me lol`
`05:55.49`	`Xuerian`	`Is it bad that you remind me of frodo, though? >_>`
`05:55.58`	`sare`	`HAHA scores.`
`05:56.01`	`mjc`	`:(`
`05:56.08`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`05:56.13`	`ckknight`	`I see the frodoness now`
`05:56.15`	`FrodoSare`	`lol`
`05:56.24`	`mjc`	`hahaha`
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`05:56.32`	`FrodoSare`	`that made my day lol`
`05:56.34`	`Sole`	`i can see the frodo there`
`05:56.36`	`mjc`	`look at the last pic`
`05:56.37`	`mjc`	`:P`
`05:56.39`	`ckknight`	`I like your hair straightened :-P`
`05:56.51`	`ckknight`	`last pic seems to be the best`
`05:56.53`	`ckknight`	`imo`
`05:57.01`	`FrodoSare`	`lol it takes alot to straighten it :P`
`05:57.30`	`FrodoSare`	`everyone won't leave my curly hair alone, they liek to pull it softly so it dprings haha`
`05:57.36`	`FrodoSare`	`springs*`
`05:57.42`	`Xuerian`	`Iunno, I like the second one.`
`05:57.51`	`Xuerian`	`Beautiful smile <steals>`
`05:58.12`	`FrodoSare`	`first adn second are newest lol`
`05:58.44`	`Xuerian`	`Infectious smile <.<`
`05:58.54`	`Sole`	`your smile makes me happier`
`05:58.58`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian wants to sex you up.`
`05:59.03`	`mjc`	`haha`
`05:59.04`	`Sole`	`smiles all around`
`05:59.07`	`Sole`	`haha`
`05:59.11`	`mjc`	`I turned her straight`
`05:59.12`	`Xuerian`	`s/a idiot/the idiot he is/`
`05:59.12`	`mjc`	`:P`
`05:59.23`	`Xuerian`	`Yeah I'm going away now`
`05:59.23`	`ckknight`	`turned her straight?`
`05:59.26`	`FrodoSare`	`i smile like someone on crack, so it makes others smile`
`05:59.27`	`FrodoSare`	`ahha`
`05:59.34`	`mjc`	`hahah`
`05:59.36`	`mjc`	`true story`
`05:59.41`	`Sole`	`turned straight?`
`05:59.49`	`ckknight`	`you can't be turned straight or gay`
`05:59.54`	`ckknight`	`you were always that way.`
`06:00.06`	`Sole`	`lol she was never lesbian...just dormantly bisexual then ^_^`
`06:00.09`	`mjc`	`heh`
`06:00.11`	`ckknight`	`or you could be just bi`
`06:00.11`	`Xuerian`	`I dunno. Johnny Depp could possibly turn me gay.`
`06:00.13`	`Sole`	`til she met the sexness that is mjc`
`06:00.18`	`mjc`	`haha`
`06:00.25`	`Sole`	`hmm`
`06:00.30`	`ckknight`	`well, Johnny would be appreciative, at least`
`06:00.36`	`Xuerian`	`0_o`
`06:00.37`	`FrodoSare`	`Xuerian: =D he's amazing`
`06:00.38`	`FrodoSare`	`lol`
`06:00.39`	`Sole`	`I respect Johnny as an actor`
`06:00.44`	`Sole`	`good actor`
`06:00.48`	`Sole`	`and good ass cheeks`
`06:00.52`	`Xuerian`	`XD`
`06:01.00`	`mjc`	`haha`
`06:01.06`	`mjc`	`FrodoSare: you're amazing :P`
`06:01.20`	`Xuerian`	`Sare: Pirate <3`
`06:01.31`	`FrodoSare`	`Xuerian: own them <3`
`06:01.51`	`Sole`	`Kiera Knightly <3 am I the only one?`
`06:01.57`	`Sole`	`oh ya`
`06:02.00`	`Sole`	`and Basshunter <3`
`06:02.06`	`mjc`	`sare <3`
`06:02.06`	`ckknight`	`Kiera Knightly ftw.`
`06:02.23`	`Xuerian`	`Kiera ish good too...`
`06:02.24`	`Sole`	`english accent = sexy`
`06:02.27`	`FrodoSare`	`<33`
`06:02.33`	`ckknight`	`totally`
`06:02.40`	`Sole`	`so is a latino accent`
`06:02.42`	`ckknight`	`an english accent gains you an entire point.`
`06:02.46`	`Sole`	`ya`
`06:02.46`	`mjc`	`haha`
`06:02.51`	`mjc`	`ckknight: on the spamassassin score?`
`06:03.13`	`Sole`	`hay`
`06:03.18`	`Sole`	`nobody halped me`
`06:03.18`	`Sole`	`I feel sad`
`06:03.23`	`ckknight`	`great, my USB stopped working.`
`06:03.26`	`Sole`	`is Amplify Curse a buff on the warlock or a debuff on the target?`
`06:03.29`	`ckknight`	`fucking a`
`06:03.46`	`montyq`	`buff on the warlock`
`06:04.09`	`ckknight`	`brb`
`06:04.23`	`Sole`	`ok ty`
`06:04.42`	`Sole`	`montyq: you just created a new dawn for in-combat buff tracking`
`06:04.51`	`Sole`	`montyq: not really but dont you feel special now?`
`06:05.27`	`montyq`	`of course, and don't worry.. i'm 100% sure.. I don't have a warlock but I have two rank14 mages`
`06:05.32`	`montyq`	`And I've never had to decurse that`
`06:06.49`	`mjc`	`two?`
`06:06.51`	`mjc`	`wtf.`
`06:07.00`	`montyq`	`Horde and Alliance ;-)`
`06:07.13`	`mjc`	`you have less of a life than I`
`06:07.21`	`mjc`	`sare's not even 60 yet`
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`06:07.25`	`mjc`	`help ehr out a little eh`
`06:07.28`	`montyq`	`haha, yeah I know`
`06:07.32`	`Sole`	`why 2 mages?`
`06:07.41`	`Sole`	`rogue and warrior IMO`
`06:07.43`	`montyq`	`I was on disability for a whole year`
`06:07.58`	`Sole`	`gain the most out of HWL gear on ebay keke`
`06:08.01`	`Sole`	`oh :(`
`06:08.31`	`chuckg`	`Any afficionados of dewdrop handy?`
`06:08.49`	`chuckg`	`I've a quick question I'm sure will take 1/10th a brain.`
`06:09.22`	`chuckg`	`'arg1', function() getglobal(someFrame):IsShown() end,`
`06:09.30`	`ckknight`	`k`
`06:09.32`	`chuckg`	`Will that pass a true/false to the 'func' ?`
`06:09.42`	`chuckg`	`Doesn't seem to be.`
`06:09.46`	`ckknight`	`nope, it'll pass a function`
`06:09.55`	`ckknight`	`it won't execute it`
`06:09.57`	`Sole`	`1/10th of a brain is ALL OF OUR BRAINPOWER`
`06:10.04`	`chuckg`	`How do I get it to pass the true/false of that frame?`
`06:10.07`	`Sole`	`WE DONT USE THE OTHER 9/10th`
`06:10.17`	`Sole`	`I have no idea why I put that in caps`
`06:10.30`	`ckknight`	`'func', function() myFunc(getglobal(someFrame):IsShown()) end`
`06:10.30`	`chuckg`	`Errors when I just use the: 'arg1', getglobal(someFrame):IsShown(),`
`06:10.31`	`ckknight`	`that's how`
`06:10.44`	`chuckg`	`What's myFunc?`
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`06:10.50`	`chuckg`	`Oh.`
`06:10.51`	`chuckg`	`I'm an idiot.`
`06:10.52`	`ckknight`	`I dunno, it's your definition.`
`06:10.53`	`chuckg`	`Nevermind.`
`06:10.56`	`mjc`	`sare: organic frosted mini wheats. rofl`
`06:11.06`	`Laric`	`isnt arg1 a global one shouldnt mess with really?`
`06:11.18`	`ckknight`	`different situation, Laric`
`06:11.31`	`chuckg`	`Thanks ck.`
`06:11.49`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r13859 10Minimalist/Minimalist.lua: Minimalist: fixed bug with honor progress percent and made it look nicer to boot`
`06:13.46`	`ckknight`	`where can I download the beta client for enUS?`
`06:14.43`	`mjc`	`ckknight: I want it :(`
`06:14.52`	`ckknight`	`I need to install it`
`06:14.54`	`Sole`	`who can see the hidden message in my new alt's name? name: slpaggin`
`06:14.58`	`ckknight`	`then change the server path to EU`
`06:15.11`	`ckknight`	`should work`
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`06:16.00`	`mjc`	`ckknight: no keys necessary?`
`06:16.13`	`ckknight`	`I have an account I can use EU-side`
`06:16.37`	`mjc`	`I mean, you don't have to be part of hte beta?`
`06:17.05`	`ckknight`	`I'm not 100% sure`
`06:17.07`	`ckknight`	`I don't think so`
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`06:22.30`	`mjc`	`ckknight: copying ot US PTR`
`06:22.53`	`ckknight`	`?`
`06:23.03`	`mjc`	`s/ot/to/`
`06:23.16`	`ckknight`	`copying what?`
`06:23.28`	`cladhaire`	`did you upgrade your account already?`
`06:24.03`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, I have access to an EU account that is upgraded`
`06:24.05`	`mjc`	`upgrade? it'sletting me character copy without any kind of upgrade`
`06:24.19`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: Nice, have fun with it =)`
`06:24.57`	`mjc`	`oh haha this is the PTR for 1.12.1`
`06:24.58`	`mjc`	`wtf`
`06:25.24`	`Tekkub`	`hehe... this is freaky`
`06:25.43`	`mjc`	`?`
`06:25.53`	`Tekkub`	`was skimming stuff on my furry porn site... see this post from a guy I knew in the bear IRC channel I met my hubby in 6 years ago`
`06:26.00`	`Tekkub`	`knew the guy for years before that`
`06:26.07`	`mjc`	`heh.`
`06:26.10`	`Tekkub`	`and he turns out to be a damn dirty furry!`
`06:26.15`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`06:26.28`	`mjc`	`Tekkub: creepy:P`
`06:30.58`	`CIA-17`	`03sole * r13860 10Antagonist/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`06:30.58`	`CIA-17`	`Antagonist`
`06:30.58`	`CIA-17`	`* LOTS of cooldowns added and a few buffs/casts (thanks to Skyboat for providing a cooldowns table - I still had to spend a good hour modifying and adapting the other tables to it however :( )`
`06:30.58`	`CIA-17`	`* Added: Parsing of hits for spells such as Raptor Strike and Mongoose Bite to show their Cooldowns`
`06:30.58`	`CIA-17`	`* Removed the cooldown flag from the spell databases, Ant will now just check the cooldowns database to see if there is a cooldown entry for the cast/buff being processed`
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`06:42.43`	`chuckg`	`Is a toc line of: ## LoadWith: Blizzard_TradeSkillUI, Blizzard_CraftUI`
`06:42.44`	`chuckg`	`Still valid?`
`06:43.04`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmmm, unsure`
`06:43.13`	`cncfanatics`	`probably, If they didnt change their names`
`06:44.12`	`chuckg`	`Doesn't seem to be working, not sure how I could mess that up.`
`06:44.42`	`cncfanatics`	`in 1.12 or 2.0.0 ?`
`06:44.46`	`chuckg`	`1.12`
`06:47.15`	`Sole`	`so who wants to help me name my alt?`
`06:47.29`	`chuckg`	`Fignewton`
`06:47.43`	`Sole`	`Slpaggin, Saggin, Splaggin`
`06:47.47`	`Sole`	`I kinda like Splaggin`
`06:47.57`	`cncfanatics`	`Laggin maybe ?`
`06:47.58`	`Sole`	`but then if you rean Slpaggin backwards its a loltrick`
`06:48.03`	`Sole`	`read* even`
`06:48.15`	`Sole`	`Slpaggin = niggapls ^__^`
`06:48.48`	`Sole`	`would suit my racialy insensitive server`
`06:50.02`	`Tekkub`	`BEHOLD! Exodus from the mechanical womb!`
`06:50.48`	`Laric`	`sole Osolemio :)`
`06:52.18`	`Sole`	`Osolemio huh`
`06:52.32`	`Laric`	`name for your alt :P`
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`07:13.11`	`Neebler`	`http://www.africananimals.biz/plogger/thumbs/lrg-110-dikdik13.JPG`
`07:13.14`	`Neebler`	`dikdiks freak me out`
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`07:29.47`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r13861 10Minimalist/Minimalist.lua: Minimalist: added lvl 40 paladin mount and legendary qiraji to autodismount at taxi option`
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`07:33.19`	`cncfanatics`	`99% of BC downloaded, come on !`
`07:40.45`	`Laric`	`hmm no point in downloading it for me.. no key :(`
`07:41.07`	`cncfanatics`	`I got a key without even asking for one, lucky me :p`
`07:41.22`	`Laric`	`good for you :)`
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`07:42.04`	`\|Pixel\|`	`heh`
`07:42.26`	`\|Pixel\|`	`playing BC is a bit a pain in the ass`
`07:42.32`	`cncfanatics`	`I don't care playing`
`07:42.36`	`cncfanatics`	`I just want to code ^^`
`07:42.43`	`\|Pixel\|`	`aah`
`07:42.52`	`\|Pixel\|`	`then have fun :P`
`07:43.04`	`cncfanatics`	`i'll play some too ofc, but that ain't a prio`
`07:43.20`	`\|Pixel\|`	`I'm sure you'll love the "no-nothing run from a macro or lua script during combat mode"`
`07:43.31`	`cncfanatics`	`thats not even true :p`
`07:43.48`	`\|Pixel\|`	`well, they -plan- on adding this, I don't know if it's already done or not`
`07:43.59`	`cncfanatics`	`its only if used with conditionals ...`
`07:44.08`	`\|Pixel\|`	`err`
`07:44.13`	`cncfanatics`	`a plain /script CastSpellByName or UseAction shld still work`
`07:44.27`	`ckknight`	`actually, no, cncfanatics`
`07:44.32`	`\|Pixel\|`	`how in the world could they 'check' that ?`
`07:44.33`	`ckknight`	`but /cast and /use will`
`07:44.42`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmmm, did they change it again then ?`
`07:45.03`	`\|Pixel\|`	`dunno; I saw this quite recently actually`
`07:45.05`	`Tekkub`	`a little haire told me that we weren't gonna have CastSpellByName at all, but we got it back for use OOC only`
`07:45.26`	`cncfanatics`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32184244&sid=1`
`07:45.49`	`\|Pixel\|`	`OOC ?`
`07:45.53`	`cncfanatics`	`out of combat`
`07:45.56`	`Tekkub`	`out of combat`
`07:45.58`	`\|Pixel\|`	`ah, yes`
`07:46.05`	`cncfanatics`	`that post from slouken states we can use it without conditionals -.-`
`07:47.37`	`\|Pixel\|`	`mmmwell`
`07:48.00`	`\|Pixel\|`	`still waiting for the final thing to be available`
`07:48.23`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:48.30`	`\|Pixel\|`	`because I don't exactly see how, without crippling the LUA interpretor, you could check if a LUA code is run without conditionnals`
`07:48.32`	`ckknight`	`that's what's important for macros`
`07:48.44`	`\|Pixel\|`	`yes, sure`
`07:48.44`	`cncfanatics`	`Pixel, they coded the lua interpretor, its in their code, can't be hard`
`07:48.52`	`\|Pixel\|`	`cncfanatics: excuse me ?`
`07:49.03`	`cncfanatics`	`meh, wrong wording sry`
`07:49.13`	`ckknight`	`cncfanatics, CastSpellByName doesn't work.`
`07:49.23`	`cncfanatics`	`I don't use CastSpellByName either :p`
`07:49.24`	`Tekkub`	`cncfanatics, he states that we can cast spell from macros, but he doesn't state that we can use CastSpellByName from macros`
`07:49.26`	`ckknight`	`not from an unprotected script.`
`07:49.33`	`Tekkub`	`he's probably refering to /cast as ckk said`
`07:49.49`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, they probably limited UseAction too then`
`07:49.58`	`Tekkub`	`most likly, yes`
`07:49.59`	`\|Pixel\|`	`and TargetByName, by the way`
`07:50.04`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:50.05`	`cncfanatics`	`Targetting I knew already`
`07:50.05`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:50.10`	`ckknight`	`those all work`
`07:50.24`	`cncfanatics`	`but anyway, we're getting secure templates right ? to replace useaction ?`
`07:50.29`	`Tekkub`	`and executing chat script`
`07:50.36`	`cncfanatics`	`secureactionbuttontemplate shld do for replacing useaction normaly`
`07:52.20`	`\|Pixel\|`	`well, anyway`
`07:52.46`	`\|Pixel\|`	`their goal is to defeat decursive, emergency monitor and other similar stuff`
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`07:55.30`	`cncfanatics`	`yea, so we shld be able to get around any stuff which ain't like that some way`
`07:56.22`	`oxman`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=34384073&sid=1`
`07:56.24`	`oxman`	`its fine`
`07:56.24`	`oxman`	`:)`
`08:03.12`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r13862 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: Ace2 - Nothing to see here`
`08:05.03`	`cncfanatics`	`wtf ?`
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`08:05.11`	`Tekkub`	`ttf!`
`08:05.23`	`cncfanatics`	`i'm getting "[TEMPORARY] downloading blizzard scan" when TBC starts`
`08:05.26`	`cncfanatics`	`and then it closes`
`08:05.30`	`cncfanatics`	`:/`
`08:05.47`	`Tekkub`	`don't ask me, I'm bitter and jaded`
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`08:06.22`	`Tekkub`	`tho I think next year I'll go to blizzcon and fund the trip by selling my minipet and expansion beta key`
`08:07.40`	`cncfanatics`	`http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=6013`
`08:07.41`	`cncfanatics`	`shit`
`08:10.05`	`ggilbert_`	`It works`
`08:10.14`	`ggilbert_`	`Just needs a minor work around`
`08:10.33`	`cncfanatics`	`tell me what ?`
`08:10.59`	`cncfanatics`	`need it badly to work :p`
`08:11.05`	`ggilbert_`	`rm Scan*.dll`
`08:11.22`	`ggilbert_`	`chmod ogu-w .`
`08:11.26`	`ggilbert_`	`all in the BC directory`
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`08:11.39`	`ggilbert_`	`If it can't download the scanner it'll just error out and let you procede`
`08:12.17`	`cncfanatics`	`done, now lets see`
`08:12.49`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: Shouldn't your recent Ace2 checkin be a part of oRA2/CTRA?`
`08:13.26`	`ggilbert_`	`oh man this is evil`
`08:14.12`	`cncfanatics`	`works, thanks, I get an error, but well`
`08:14.23`	`cncfanatics`	`I can launch wow, it lets me continue now`
`08:14.29`	`Tekkub`	`CTRA, yes, but the dick didn't put it in`
`08:14.37`	`ggilbert_`	`They created a new name for the Brood of Norzdomo and let you regrind the rep all over :)`
`08:14.44`	`Tekkub`	`if it's in AE it'll get on the most number of clients we can reach`
`08:14.48`	`cncfanatics`	`haha, sure`
`08:15.14`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: Indeed, I just disagree with putting it there, but I understand why.`
`08:16.35`	`cncfanatics`	`bah, cant use my realname on BC testrealms`
`08:17.37`	`ggilbert_`	`cncfanatics: On the whole, it seems to run identically to any other WoW release`
`08:17.52`	`cncfanatics`	`yep`
`08:17.52`	`Tekkub`	`well it's something that everyone needs to send, regardless of mods`
`08:17.52`	`Tekkub`	`it's send only`
`08:17.59`	`Tekkub`	`UI, by all means, oRA`
`08:18.01`	`cncfanatics`	`runs smoothly with the Config.wtf of my regular WoW`
`08:18.10`	`vhaarr`	`yeah I noticed`
`08:18.55`	`cncfanatics`	`ggilbert_ u run BC with wine too ?`
`08:19.09`	`ggilbert_`	`Yup`
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`08:19.35`	`vhaarr`	`Does BC use a new renderer, and if so, is it faster in WINE?`
`08:19.44`	`vhaarr`	`I get a significant FPS boost in windows.`
`08:20.00`	`vhaarr`	`So I always raid in Windows :(`
`08:20.11`	`cncfanatics`	`U dont even got windows anymore heh`
`08:20.14`	`cncfanatics`	`I*`
`08:20.27`	`vhaarr`	`you don't need windows to answer the question`
`08:20.35`	`vhaarr`	`is the BC renderer faster for you?`
`08:20.50`	`cncfanatics`	`lemme check`
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`08:21.23`	`ggilbert_`	`Doesnt seem any faster`
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`08:21.43`	`axxo`	`vhaarr: uhm, all your addons disabled?`
`08:21.56`	`cncfanatics`	`20fps, same as usual in orgri`
`08:21.58`	`vhaarr`	`Of course not?`
`08:22.43`	`Fisker`	`any script command to hide stancebar?`
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`08:25.48`	`ckknight_`	`so what all does GMail do?`
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`08:26.13`	`Mikma`	`ckknight_: massmail + alt+leftmouse on item = put in mail/trade`
`08:26.30`	`Mikma`	`and autocollect selected mails / all in mailbox`
`08:26.34`	`ckknight_`	`okay`
`08:26.47`	`ckknight_`	`Ace2?`
`08:26.54`	`Mikma`	`should be yes`
`08:27.07`	`ckknight_`	`alright`
`08:27.09`	`ckknight_`	`sounds good, then`
`08:27.15`	`axxo`	`o, i can drop ct_mail then`
`08:27.18`	`axxo`	`/dance`
`08:27.32`	`Sole_`	`Gmail is pro`
`08:27.34`	`Mikma`	`well it is complete ct_mail replacement`
`08:27.40`	`Sole_`	`its a lot easier to use than ct_mail imo`
`08:27.53`	`Sole_`	`because AFAIK CT_mail doesnt have an open all button`
`08:28.03`	`Mikma`	`Grennon Mail a.k.a. GMail (A CT_MailMod Replacement)`
`08:28.15`	`Mikma`	`Sole_: yes it has`
`08:28.26`	`vhaarr`	`indeed it does`
`08:28.37`	`vhaarr`	`gmail does nothing that ct_mailmod doesn't`
`08:28.43`	`cncfanatics`	`ckknight_ is ace2 working with TBC yet ?`
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`08:29.16`	`Sole_`	`alright my bad then`
`08:29.31`	`Sole_`	`I still prefer Gmail over CT_MailMod...its got a cooler name`
`08:30.10`	`Fisker`	`noone knows how to hide the stance bar without any addons?`
`08:30.59`	`Sole_`	`theres a way`
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`08:31.12`	`[Ammo]`	`morning`
`08:31.59`	`cncfanatics`	`ckknight, got ace2 running on TBC?`
`08:32.09`	`Fisker`	`ckknight isn't in the beta :(`
`08:32.09`	`ckknight`	`no, haven't downloaded the client fully`
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`08:32.15`	`cncfanatics`	`ok, hurry :p`
`08:32.26`	`[Ammo]`	`cnc: it works in TBC`
`08:32.28`	`cncfanatics`	`ur late fishker, he managed to get one :p`
`08:32.31`	`Fisker`	`oh`
`08:32.34`	`[Ammo]`	`cnc: I'm running FuBar + BigWigs`
`08:32.39`	`cncfanatics`	`:o`
`08:32.44`	`[Ammo]`	`cnc: CandyBars`
`08:32.46`	`[Ammo]`	`Squeenix`
`08:32.48`	`[Ammo]`	`they work :p`
`08:32.54`	`Fisker`	`couldn't get any of that working`
`08:32.55`	`cncfanatics`	`error in AceDebug when I start it lol`
`08:32.56`	`Fisker`	`well fubar did`
`08:33.10`	`[Ammo]`	`AceDebug I haven't tested yet`
`08:33.11`	`Fisker`	`but it wanted to disable libs`
`08:33.15`	`Fisker`	`perhaps it thinks it sucks as well`
`08:33.16`	`[Ammo]`	`but normal stuff works`
`08:33.19`	`cncfanatics`	`acedebug-2.0.lua line 92: Attempt to call a table value`
`08:33.26`	`[Ammo]`	`that one is easy`
`08:33.30`	`[Ammo]`	`use pairs() :)`
`08:33.39`	`cncfanatics`	`oh heh`
`08:33.41`	`[Ammo]`	`TinyTip works as well btw`
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`08:33.48`	`cncfanatics`	`meh, thought ace2 devs wld have done that ages ago :p`
`08:33.57`	`Sole`	`done what?`
`08:33.59`	`cncfanatics`	`can u commit that to ace2 debug ammo ?`
`08:34.29`	`Fisker`	`come on one of you may know a command to hide stancebars`
`08:34.32`	`[Ammo]`	`doubt I have commit access to that part :)`
`08:34.51`	`Fisker`	`that or i'm definately not buying any of your albums`
`08:35.03`	`ckknight`	`cncfanatics, I didn't really pay attention to AceDebug`
`08:35.05`	`ckknight`	`must've missed it`
`08:35.23`	`ckknight`	`XAD or Autobar?`
`08:35.43`	`[Ammo]`	`ckknight: shall I fix it or are you fixing it?`
`08:35.44`	`cncfanatics`	`lol, now I get framexml errors`
`08:35.49`	`ckknight`	`[Ammo], you fix it`
`08:35.49`	`cncfanatics`	`I must be hooking something wrong`
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`08:36.19`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Depends what you want, Autobar can track more things than XAD.`
`08:36.26`	`ckknight`	`I don't know what I want`
`08:36.39`	`ckknight`	`I want more fps`
`08:39.14`	`cncfanatics`	`on a side note: reloadui has a loading screen too now`
`08:39.25`	`vhaarr`	`It did before as well.`
`08:39.26`	`[Ammo]`	`ckknight I can't commit, but there's a pairs() at 92 and at 183`
`08:39.33`	`[Ammo]`	`missing that is`
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`08:40.36`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r13863 10Ace2/AceDebug-2.0/AceDebug-2.0.lua: AceDebug - added needed pairs`
`08:41.23`	`[Ammo]`	`gracias`
`08:42.04`	`cncfanatics`	`tnx :)`
`08:44.11`	`cncfanatics`	`ckknight, when u copy a character to test realm`
`08:44.16`	`cncfanatics`	`please make it on tempest keep :p`
`08:45.03`	`ggilbert_`	`tempest keep?`
`08:45.04`	`Fisker`	`i would copy it now`
`08:45.12`	`Fisker`	`and cncfanatics isn't that EU?`
`08:45.17`	`ggilbert_`	`ah`
`08:45.21`	`ggilbert_`	`that could be :)`
`08:45.30`	`Fisker`	`seriously someone must know what the hell the stancebar frame is named`
`08:45.31`	`cncfanatics`	`thats EU, and ckknight is on EU, so :p`
`08:45.54`	`Fisker`	`eh?`
`08:46.07`	`[Ammo]`	`pvp ftp`
`08:46.10`	`[Ammo]`	`pvp ftw :)`
`08:46.14`	`cncfanatics`	`meh, get on tempest keep all of u !`
`08:46.15`	`chuckg`	`Yay I can sleep: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2627.0`
`08:46.19`	`Fisker`	`told me yesterday he was us`
`08:46.34`	`cncfanatics`	`his main char is in US`
`08:46.38`	`cncfanatics`	`but he is in EU TBC beta`
`08:47.02`	`Fisker`	`yeah but he needs an account for that?`
`08:47.34`	`cncfanatics`	`he didnt get a TBC key by himself, he got one from someone, which plays on EU`
`08:47.52`	`Fisker`	`yeah but he needs to upgrade an account`
`08:48.21`	`cncfanatics`	`he got access to an upgraded EU account ...`
`08:48.36`	`Fisker`	`ok`
`08:49.30`	`Fisker`	`does anyone know how their copy works?`
`08:49.40`	`cncfanatics`	`no idea`
`08:49.45`	`Fisker`	`cause we want to transfer a lot of money`
`08:50.04`	`Fisker`	`but if the money is first registered when the queue time is out then that would suck`
`08:50.38`	`Fisker`	`btw [Ammo] are you playing now?`
`08:51.44`	`cncfanatics`	`wow`
`08:51.49`	`cncfanatics`	`i'm checking the secureactiobutton code`
`08:51.52`	`cncfanatics`	`its VERY powerfull`
`08:52.29`	`Fisker`	`what about checking the name of the stancebar then?`
`08:52.37`	`Mikma`	`cncfanatics: secureactionbutton?`
`08:53.16`	`cncfanatics`	`yes`
`08:53.27`	`cncfanatics`	`gonna love all the new features for flexbar :)`
`08:55.10`	`ggilbert_`	`Is that stuff in game already? I thought it was waiting for a future version`
`08:55.18`	`cncfanatics`	`looks like it is`
`08:55.27`	`cncfanatics`	`let me verify, but i'm 99% sure it is`
`08:55.36`	`ggilbert_`	`Maybe I was misordering posts`
`08:55.58`	`ggilbert_`	`The future version slouken was talking about might just be the beta release`
`08:56.02`	`andreasg`	`cncfanatics: can you tell me if it will be possible to have multiple pages on buttons and have them switch page when holding down a modifier key in combat, for example`
`08:56.29`	`cncfanatics`	`yes`
`08:56.43`	`andreasg`	`how will it work?`
`08:56.54`	`cncfanatics`	`its even possible for individual buttons to react differently wether a modifier key is used or not`
`08:57.13`	`andreasg`	`Currently the addon I use uses UseAction(id)`
`08:57.14`	`yacoob`	`final end of DAB!`
`08:57.44`	`cncfanatics`	`UseAction is locked for tainted code`
`08:57.53`	`cncfanatics`	`u cant use it at all`
`08:58.03`	`andreasg`	`how do you "secure" the code?`
`08:58.12`	`cncfanatics`	`all blizzard code is secure`
`08:58.16`	`cncfanatics`	`all addon code is tainted`
`08:58.30`	`andreasg`	`but if I used a secure template...?`
`08:58.40`	`cncfanatics`	`addon code can inherit from secure code and it'll stay secure as long as its not alterred by the addon tho`
`08:59.00`	`andreasg`	`ok.`
`08:59.05`	`Fisker`	`So noone knows what the stancebar is called?`
`08:59.07`	`andreasg`	`So how would flexbar do the page thing?`
`08:59.21`	`andreasg`	`if UseAction doesn't work`
`08:59.32`	`cncfanatics`	`with secureactionbuttontemplate`
`08:59.46`	`andreasg`	`what does that template allow?`
`08:59.49`	`cncfanatics`	`still finding out how it works atm, be patient :p`
`09:00.04`	`cncfanatics`	`check the code in the mpq's andreasg if u got beta`
`09:00.13`	`andreasg`	`afraid I have not`
`09:00.26`	`oxman`	`you can't extract the mpq`
`09:00.39`	`cncfanatics`	`:o`
`09:00.40`	`oxman`	`new compression ethod`
`09:00.40`	`andreasg`	`and a beta key is like 300 bucks on ebay so I am not getting one either`
`09:00.44`	`cncfanatics`	`wonder how dhaggar got me the code then :p`
`09:00.58`	`vhaarr`	`oxman: Just because a frenchie can't do it doesn't mean it's impossible.`
`09:00.58`	`cncfanatics`	`300 USD ?`
`09:01.02`	`oxman`	`you can extract one .mpq`
`09:01.07`	`oxman`	`but no interface file in it`
`09:01.23`	`yacoob`	`old dog learned new tricks? :)`
`09:01.27`	`yacoob`	`can't believe blizz done something right :)`
`09:01.34`	`oxman`	`vhaarr i don't said "its simpossible"`
`09:01.35`	`oxman`	`:)`
`09:01.46`	`andreasg`	`cncfanatics: something like that yeah`
`09:02.55`	`yacoob`	`hm`
`09:02.57`	`nevcairiel`	`blizzard should ban the sold accounts and give them to us`
`09:03.16`	`yacoob`	`will there be some new way of getting data about spells/mobs in TBC? Loz says something about 'no more tooltip parsing'?`
`09:03.27`	`yacoob`	`nevcairiel, yeah! To me, to be precise!`
`09:03.28`	`yacoob`	`grin`
`09:03.41`	`Mikma`	`http://www.hitpoints.org/wow_BC_Beta/Screenshots/soqkt.jpg`
`09:04.02`	`andreasg`	`yacoob: I hate tooltip scanning anyway`
`09:04.06`	`nevcairiel`	`haha`
`09:04.37`	`Mikma`	`god i just love blizz sometimes`
`09:04.39`	`cncfanatics`	`wow, there are massive battles between demons & the alliance & horde`
`09:04.43`	`cncfanatics`	`looks god damn good`
`09:04.45`	`yacoob`	`Mikma, duh! :D`
`09:05.16`	`cncfanatics`	`lvl 70 elites are scary`
`09:06.41`	`cncfanatics`	`dragging buttons around crashes me, FFS`
`09:06.51`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone else having that problem ?`
`09:07.04`	`andreasg`	`think you're the only one with BC here`
`09:07.17`	`[Ammo]`	`naah`
`09:07.18`	`vhaarr`	`he's not`
`09:07.22`	`[Ammo]`	`I have access`
`09:07.28`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r13864 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFu.lua: FuBar_BagFu: TBC compliancy fix`
`09:07.29`	`cncfanatics`	`got that problem too when dragging stuff ?`
`09:07.46`	`[Ammo]`	`I can drag the minimap just fine with squeenix`
`09:08.03`	`cncfanatics`	`meh, i cant drag my flexbar2 buttons around`
`09:08.10`	`cncfanatics`	`maybe cuz they're dynamicly created frames`
`09:08.23`	`andreasg`	`that shouldn't be a problem`
`09:08.37`	`cncfanatics`	`then its just wine`
`09:08.37`	`[Ammo]`	`fubar can be dragged as well`
`09:08.41`	`[Ammo]`	`so that is not the problem`
`09:08.42`	`oxman`	`:)`
`09:08.53`	`cncfanatics`	`i'll try & get fubar to see if I can drag it`
`09:09.18`	`[Ammo]`	`anyway, time to go testdrive a car (without a drivers license)`
`09:09.20`	`[Ammo]`	`later :)`
`09:09.39`	`cncfanatics`	`cya`
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`09:11.11`	`cncfanatics`	`:o seems its getpoint thats crashing me`
`09:11.38`	`oxman`	`TBC seems funny`
`09:11.38`	`oxman`	`;p`
`09:12.17`	`cncfanatics`	`ye, love stuff to crash me`
`09:12.20`	`cncfanatics`	`crashes ftw`
`09:13.55`	`CIA-17`	`03mikma * r13865 10FixMe/FixMe.lua: FixMe: changed the versioncheck to match the new minipatch 1.12.2`
`09:14.27`	`Mikma`	`wth. it already announced it here and it's still committing`
`09:14.29`	`Mikma`	`hehe`
`09:16.00`	`ckknight`	`fun`
`09:16.16`	`ckknight`	`1.12.2?`
`09:16.52`	`cncfanatics`	`EU only patch for the spanish gimps`
`09:18.17`	`axxo`	`any mod like ct_expensehistory, want to get rid of all my ct* only one left`
`09:19.24`	`Mikma`	`yeah, spanish clients had problems so they had to patch it :D`
`09:20.02`	`Mikma`	`- World of Warcraft Client Patch 1.12.2`
`09:20.17`	`Mikma`	`- Fixed an issue where players were unable to resurrect at a Spirit Healer. (Spanish Only)`
`09:20.23`	`Mikma`	`- Fixed several issues with in-game slash commands. (Spanish Only)`
`09:20.34`	`Mikma`	`all i can say is: JAJAJAJAJAJAAAA`
`09:20.46`	`axxo`	`i really wonder how they can mess that first one up`
`09:20.49`	`axxo`	`and only for spanish`
`09:21.00`	`Mikma`	`yeah, keeps me wondering too`
`09:21.12`	`vhaarr`	`They forgot to translate it?`
`09:21.14`	`vhaarr`	`Simple.`
`09:21.26`	`Mikma`	`no, it's not that simple`
`09:21.29`	`Mikma`	`it's blizzard ffs!`
`09:21.33`	`Fisker`	`so [Ammo] whats your name in TBC?`
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`09:23.06`	`Omen\|Rattle`	`noon`
`09:25.17`	`cncfanatics`	`yay`
`09:25.25`	`cncfanatics`	`I can get rid totaly of bindings.xml with TBC`
`09:25.41`	`Omen\|Rattle`	`is it normal that the activation e-mai ltakes it time or is there something rotten in amsterdam?`
`09:25.51`	`Omen\|Rattle`	`e-mail*`
`09:27.29`	`axxo`	`gief movies of outland instances damnit`
`09:27.32`	`axxo`	`with mobs this timle!`
`09:27.35`	`Kebinusan`	`new minimaptch?`
`09:27.36`	`andreasg`	`cncfanatics: you can add keys to the binding screen without the xml file?`
`09:27.43`	`Kebinusan`	`ah spanish only`
`09:27.47`	`cncfanatics`	`* NEW SetBindingClick("KEY", "ButtonName" [,"mouseButton"]) -- Set a key binding directly to a Button object. The click sends a mouse down when the key is pressed, and a mouse up when it is released.`
`09:28.08`	`cncfanatics`	`not to the bindings screen tho, but that matters less`
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`09:30.51`	`sergio`	`what new minipatch Mikma`
`09:30.53`	`sergio`	`:(((((`
`09:30.58`	`ckknight`	`it's a spanish patch`
`09:31.14`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: fixme will disable on us clients now :D screw us :D`
`09:31.29`	`cncfanatics`	`ya, screw US, EU FTW !`
`09:31.31`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: yeah i thought that too actually ;)`
`09:31.39`	`Mikma`	`but 1.12.2 is latest kekek`
`09:31.43`	`axxo`	`what does fixme do exactly? i read the desc and it just scared me`
`09:32.06`	`Mikma`	`good`
`09:32.32`	`nevcairiel`	`fix ui bugs`
`09:32.32`	`Kebinusan`	`mikma, bleh us > eu`
`09:32.40`	`Kebinusan`	`branch it :-)`
`09:32.41`	`nevcairiel`	`like the chattab focus on login`
`09:33.01`	`Mikma`	`Kebinusan: no, 1.12.2 is latest :D`
`09:33.12`	`Kebinusan`	`not in the US!`
`09:33.16`	`nevcairiel`	`why did they patch my english client with the spanish stuff anyway?`
`09:33.20`	`Mikma`	`but in the world it is`
`09:33.28`	`sergio`	`heh`
`09:33.30`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: i have no idea`
`09:33.38`	`Kemayo`	`Or the massive increasing memory rate for hovering your mouse over an inventory item.`
`09:33.46`	`Mikma`	`i wondered the same thing, but then again, my game might have spanish in it too`
`09:33.48`	`Kebinusan`	`mikma, at lesast add an or for 1.12.1 for now :-)`
`09:34.00`	`nevcairiel`	`Hm`
`09:34.04`	`nevcairiel`	`autobar is ace2 now?`
`09:34.05`	`Mikma`	`Kebinusan: THAT i might do actually`
`09:34.07`	`axxo`	`its easy, their update system doesn't allow them to target spanish ppl`
`09:34.10`	`nevcairiel`	`i spotted it in my svn backlog`
`09:34.18`	`Fisker`	`anyone know what the stancebar is called now?`
`09:36.17`	`nevcairiel`	`i got that stupid broodlord head yesterday, /me goes questing`
`09:37.03`	`Mikma`	`lawl too bad :D`
`09:37.25`	`axxo`	`ppl willingly doeing that chaine are :X`
`09:37.47`	`nevcairiel`	`i only do the easy parts for the easy epics :D`
`09:38.08`	`Mikma`	`i can't do it anymore`
`09:38.19`	`Mikma`	`i'm 0/36000 hostile with Gadgeztan ;)`
`09:38.20`	`Somani`	`somebody knows the name of the quest-tracker frame?`
`09:38.40`	`yacoob`	`Somani, get visor?`
`09:38.58`	`Somani`	`jap but can't take it cuz its not in my visible screen`
`09:39.01`	`Somani`	`;)`
`09:39.18`	`Mikma`	`is there any way of checking is the client for EU or US?`
`09:39.31`	`Somani`	`for some reason its somewhere outside of my screen -.-`
`09:39.43`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: dont think so`
`09:39.44`	`pastamancer`	`enGB vs. enUS perhaps?`
`09:39.59`	`Mikma`	`well i need to find a way :(`
`09:40.01`	`nevcairiel`	`hm, i think enGB reports enUS, or is that only my client ? :D`
`09:40.18`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: anUS rocks more`
`09:40.34`	`Fisker`	`well ace doesn't work :(`
`09:40.37`	`Fisker`	`so no mr. plow for me`
`09:40.39`	`Fisker`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:42.09`	`Fisker`	`and tinytip doesn't seeem to work`
`09:43.27`	`Mikma`	`Kebinusan: somehow i don't get the 1.12.1 or 1.12.2 working ;)`
`09:44.26`	`Somani`	`so what's the name yacoob ;)`
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`09:46.19`	`yacoob`	`sorry somani, but my seer power are exhausted right now... :D`
`09:46.25`	`sergio`	`Mikma: what would cause this http://sp.cream.org/images/wow/bt2bar1.png`
`09:47.14`	`sergio`	`it's not aligned properly when saved originally so when I started back up it shifted back up a few pixels`
`09:47.22`	`sergio`	`after a resetall`
`09:47.34`	`Fisker`	`xloot works :O`
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`09:50.13`	`Mikma`	`sergio: something fucks.`
`09:51.04`	`Fisker`	`wtf lol`
`09:51.11`	`cncfanatics`	`can a CheckButton inherit from a Button ?`
`09:51.16`	`Fisker`	`eqcompare and elk buffbar doesn't properly :(`
`09:51.43`	`sergio`	`something fucks fucks`
`09:52.25`	`Fisker`	`lol`
`09:52.36`	`Fisker`	`each time i want to craft runecloth an addon is fucking it up`
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`09:54.03`	`yacoob`	`wow`
`09:54.11`	`yacoob`	`it must be fun to be Blizzard web server`
`09:54.23`	`yacoob`	`you're never supposed to actually answer requests...`
`09:54.28`	`cncfanatics`	`[Ammo]?`
`09:54.51`	`cncfanatics`	`do U know if Secure templates were implented yet ? seems they wont work :/`
`09:55.44`	`cncfanatics`	`or does anyone know ?`
`09:55.58`	`\|Pixel\|`	`yacoob: there are currently severe disruptions with the web server... and it won't be fixed 'til monday`
`09:56.08`	`\|Pixel\|`	`(the european web server that is)`
`09:56.25`	`yacoob`	`\|Pixel\|, great.`
`09:56.37`	`yacoob`	`they're losing 20EUR, I wanted to move a char :)`
`09:56.42`	`\|Pixel\|`	`ha`
`09:56.46`	`\|Pixel\|`	`don't do it`
`09:56.51`	`yacoob`	`Ohh, something you just want to see in a description of a mod:`
`09:56.53`	`yacoob`	`"http://sp.cream.org/images/wow/bt2bar1.png`
`09:56.57`	`yacoob`	`erp, wait`
`09:56.58`	`\|Pixel\|`	`the PCT is currently under sever disruption`
`09:57.04`	`yacoob`	`"I don't know LUA, but I wrote this addon anyway"`
`09:57.13`	`yacoob`	`\|Pixel\|, can you give some more details?`
`09:57.18`	`yacoob`	`people get lost in midflight? :)`
`09:57.22`	`\|Pixel\|`	`yep`
`09:57.22`	`yacoob`	`...langoliers?`
`09:57.27`	`\|Pixel\|`	`yep :)`
`09:57.38`	`\|Pixel\|`	`so if you don't want your character to be stuck for one week, don't move it now`
`09:57.59`	`\|Pixel\|`	`lots of people are getting to the customer support to get their character "unlocked"`
`09:58.00`	`axxo`	`lol, my mimimap is in the middle of screen, dunno how it got there, can't get it back, disabled all addons i can think of that can mvoe it cry`
`09:58.09`	`yacoob`	`\|Pixel\|, truth is, I do not play her right now, and the move would be in order to actually start playing.`
`09:58.18`	`\|Pixel\|`	`yeah, I see`
`09:58.33`	`yacoob`	`anyway, it's not urgent, and I'm not yet even sure whether I want it`
`09:58.38`	`yacoob`	`But thanks for the tip :)`
`09:59.31`	`\|Pixel\|`	`heh`
`10:00.08`	`\|Pixel\|`	`in all cases, the PCT will most probably be down even after the website is open again`
`10:00.22`	`yacoob`	`yay, lucky me :>`
`10:00.36`	`yacoob`	`btw, "won't get fixed by Monday" is.. well... miserable`
`10:01.17`	`yacoob`	`even cgcrafty is 2.0!`
`10:01.35`	`\|Pixel\|`	`look, people sometime need a life, especially during the week-end :P`
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`10:02.01`	`yacoob`	`\|Pixel\|, I work in event-driven mode, I know situations like that, and how they could handle it :>`
`10:02.30`	`*** join/#wowace Andalia (n=xx@p54ADA1B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)`
`10:02.34`	`\|Pixel\|`	`really ? :)`
`10:02.58`	`yacoob`	`I mean, there is this threshold, above which you gather so much public attention that you'd better prepare for unexpected, or lose good opinion`
`10:03.26`	`\|Pixel\|`	`yeah, and sometime, things get above threshold :P`
`10:03.32`	`\|Pixel\|`	`and there's murphy's law as well`
`10:03.37`	`yacoob`	`\|Pixel\|, were they nuked? :D`
`10:03.50`	`\|Pixel\|`	`erm`
`10:04.00`	`\|Pixel\|`	`nuked isn't the right word`
`10:04.15`	`yacoob`	`Onyxia got them?!??`
`10:04.18`	`\|Pixel\|`	`but it is a quite good image of what's happening`
`10:04.25`	`yacoob`	`"Foul server! You evaded me for long enough!"`
`10:04.30`	`\|Pixel\|`	`and -stop- saying 'them'`
`10:04.39`	`yacoob`	`gasp "you"?`
`10:04.43`	`\|Pixel\|`	`didn't you get enough hints now that I am working there ? :P`
`10:05.09`	`yacoob`	`well, you could be very well affiliated. Very very well.`
`10:05.20`	`yacoob`	`a friend of a friend of a...`
`10:05.40`	`\|Pixel\|`	`heh, no :)`
`10:06.16`	`yacoob`	`so... "tell me... tell me everything!"`
`10:06.23`	`yacoob`	`:)`
`10:06.27`	`\|Pixel\|`	`no, sorry, can't tell you everything`
`10:06.37`	`\|Pixel\|`	`simply that things are way beyond the normal threshold`
`10:07.00`	`yacoob`	`\|Pixel\|, understandable, moments when shit hits the fan are... hard to predict sometimes.`
`10:07.13`	`yacoob`	`We have funny moments here too`
`10:07.15`	`Iceroth`	`umh, what addon is spamming me with "LOOT_OPENED nil nil" constantly?`
`10:07.29`	`\|Pixel\|`	`it's not a single simple issue happening; several, several small ones`
`10:07.37`	`nevcairiel`	`Iceroth: aceevent`
`10:07.48`	`nevcairiel`	`Tekkub: added some fun debug msg for some reason`
`10:07.52`	`yacoob`	`Phone calls, it's the customer from country X. The thing just broke down, and all gsm subscribers are not charged for the calls. "Help!"`
`10:07.55`	`nevcairiel`	`bah stupid nickcomplete :)`
`10:09.05`	`yacoob`	`\|Pixel\|, what I'm really interested into, and perhaps you can tell me - what is the architecture (and spec) of the servers? and storage? This really makes me wonder, what type of computing power one needs to handle this kind of stuff.`
`10:09.17`	`yacoob`	`(I bet you're not supposed to be revealing that :)`
`10:10.20`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone here but me with Beta access that can help me a sec ?`
`10:10.39`	`\|Pixel\|`	`you bet correctly`
`10:11.03`	`Iceroth`	`ah, right, unitname returns 2 values, no wonder i didn't spot the debug command at first`
`10:11.04`	`\|Pixel\|`	`but this is waaaaaaaaaay overpowered`
`10:11.16`	`Mikma`	`I like Tekkub!`
`10:11.20`	`Mikma`	`he makes good addons!`
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`10:12.14`	`yacoob`	`\|Pixel\|, I managed to read your thoughts. The server is coded in Java. Save your characters! End of the world! :D`
`10:12.29`	`nevcairiel`	`oh noes.`
`10:12.42`	`\|Pixel\|`	`haha ;)`
`10:14.54`	`Neebler`	`OMG http://www.keikos-homepage.jp/funtime.htm`
`10:15.41`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`10:17.07`	`nevcairiel`	`somehow i think thats fake.`
`10:18.00`	`sergio`	`..`
`10:19.00`	`nevcairiel`	`oo they increased lotp and moonkin aura to 5%`
`10:19.06`	`nevcairiel`	`i should read blizz forums more often`
`10:19.43`	`\|Pixel\|`	`when they work...`
`10:19.44`	`\|Pixel\|`	`:P`
`10:20.25`	`nevcairiel`	`well they do right now`
`10:20.30`	`nevcairiel`	`but the website is broken`
`10:20.36`	`sergio`	`i hope your flight form quest takes 20 hours played`
`10:20.40`	`\|Pixel\|`	`I know ;)`
`10:21.01`	`nevcairiel`	`sergio: i hope you burn in hell`
`10:21.33`	`nevcairiel`	`plus its slow and not usable in combat, not really that great anymore`
`10:21.44`	`nevcairiel`	`except the flying part :)`
`10:21.54`	`sergio`	`considering i have 150g`
`10:21.59`	`sergio`	`it's better than nothing`
`10:22.18`	`nevcairiel`	`its not like i will be near the 300 skill anytime next year`
`10:22.56`	`nevcairiel`	`stupid 5 day raiding, no time to farm more money then pots and repairs cost`
`10:23.08`	`nevcairiel`	`plus being a healing druid..`
`10:23.24`	`sergio`	`lol`
`10:23.31`	`sergio`	`shrug`
`10:23.51`	`sergio`	`same boat pretty much except i can kill stuff faster i guess`
`10:23.58`	`sergio`	`and I have 23g repairs`
`10:25.15`	`nevcairiel`	`sounds like warrior`
`10:26.23`	`Fisker`	`<-375 first aid now :D`
`10:26.46`	`nevcairiel`	`we should add a channel rule, no talking about bc beta until everybody in here has it.`
`10:27.17`	`cncfanatics`	`no talking about ace till everyone can use it perfectly also imo`
`10:27.29`	`nevcairiel`	`its the ace channel :O`
`10:28.21`	`sergio`	`heh`
`10:29.16`	`sergio`	`I just run around in BC and explore when I play`
`10:29.59`	`cncfanatics`	`i'd like to code in BC but it seems secure templates weren't implented yet, got a clue if thats true ?`
`10:30.21`	`nevcairiel`	`slouken said they are still a work in progress, no idea how it is today`
`10:30.26`	`yacoob`	`Fisker, 375 FA = Superior Mummy Maker`
`10:30.33`	`sergio`	`shrug, i know squat about lua or any of the changes`
`10:30.40`	`sergio`	`i can test stuff if you want`
`10:32.03`	`sergio`	`did you see what the rdx guy is doing`
`10:32.12`	`sergio`	`it's pretty neat but i don't think I'd like it as a healer`
`10:32.19`	`sergio`	`i wouldn't be able to enjoy the game`
`10:32.22`	`nevcairiel`	`bleh`
`10:32.23`	`nevcairiel`	`The attachments upload directory is not writable. Your attachment or avatar cannot be saved.`
`10:32.28`	`nevcairiel`	`stupid wowace forum :D`
`10:33.28`	`cncfanatics`	`nevcairiel, any way u can ask slouken ? i'm on EU servers and can't do shit`
`10:33.56`	`nevcairiel`	`same`
`10:34.00`	`nevcairiel`	`was only reading the forums.`
`10:34.08`	`sergio`	`http://www.rdx-raid.com/images/skein/skein_2.jpg not sure if that's a concept or actually working. he claims it's in bug testing`
`10:34.52`	`nevcairiel`	`i dont see the use`
`10:35.04`	`cncfanatics`	`UseAction is locked to addons`
`10:35.11`	`cncfanatics`	`secure templates are the only way to make action buttons`
`10:35.23`	`nevcairiel`	`i know, ive read that`
`10:35.29`	`nevcairiel`	`get some US guy to ask`
`10:35.44`	`nevcairiel`	`(cant you ask in the beta forums if you got a beta key?)`
`10:35.59`	`cncfanatics`	`I asked, but answers there are kinda, eh, slow`
`10:46.17`	`Fisker`	`yacoob at next level my FA will heal for 510 each tick`
`10:46.24`	`Fisker`	`or 4080 over 8 seconds ;)`
`10:46.55`	`Fisker`	`Anyone know how to make an item tooltip with a command?`
`10:47.31`	`MikkZzz`	`slash command?`
`10:47.37`	`Fisker`	`yeah`
`10:47.58`	`Mikk`	`well.. it MIGHT be possible to squeeze it into 255 chars`
`10:48.02`	`Mikk`	`but the item needs to come from somewhere`
`10:48.03`	`nevcairiel`	`you could run the full script stuff`
`10:48.25`	`Mikk`	`if you want to show whatever random info in the tooltip, i doubt you'd get very many lines into it before you hit the wall`
`10:51.00`	`Fisker`	`just need from a specific item yeah`
`10:51.21`	`Fisker`	`just found out some items are "Unique-Equipped" now`
`10:52.07`	`nevcairiel`	`you can own two but only wear one?`
`10:52.29`	`Fisker`	`i think so`
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`10:59.47`	`Fisker`	`anyone know how to hide the stancebar?`
`11:00.37`	`Mikma`	`propably`
`11:06.36`	`Mikma`	`Fisker: BonusActionBarFrame:Hide()`
`11:07.01`	`Mikma`	`or do you mean the bar with all the little buttons on it`
`11:07.09`	`packetlss`	`i get an AceEvent error every time i loot, is this a known issue?`
`11:07.13`	`Fisker`	`nope :/`
`11:07.36`	`Fisker`	`that's not stancebar btw :P`
`11:07.55`	`cncfanatics`	`u and ur stancebar`
`11:08.04`	`Mikma`	`well it's the bar that has the stancebar actionbuttons in it`
`11:08.07`	`Fisker`	`i mean the one that has the stances in it`
`11:08.12`	`Fisker`	`not the one you change to :)`
`11:09.37`	`Mikma`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:09.47`	`Mikma`	`that's one way`
`11:09.54`	`Mikma`	`or look at the FrameXML`
`11:09.57`	`Mikma`	`~framexml`
`11:10.03`	`purl`	`get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p`
`11:10.08`	`cncfanatics`	`can SetScript be used in combat in BC?`
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`11:10.19`	`Fisker`	`you're the winner Mikk`
`11:10.21`	`Fisker`	`Mikma`
`11:10.22`	`Fisker`	`i love you`
`11:10.43`	`Fisker`	`although it almost reappears again :/`
`11:10.48`	`Mikma`	`well it has a frame what can be hidden too`
`11:10.50`	`Fisker`	`guess i need to find an addon then`
`11:11.03`	`Mikma`	`can't remember the name for it since i don't need it because i use Bartender2 which handles that ;)`
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`11:15.37`	`Mikk`	`Fisker: ?`
`11:15.49`	`Mikk`	`ah. mikma`
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`11:19.06`	`Worf`	`hmm... i just noticed a bug when playing with eqcompare, which might be a bug in AceConsole-2.0 ...:`
`11:19.23`	`maia`	`http://wdn.wowinterface.com/compare/2005991/live`
`11:20.24`	`Worf`	`when you type /eqc<tab> ->/eqcompare h<tab> -> /eqcompare hoverlink things expand nicely`
`11:20.48`	`Worf`	`but when you add a _<tab> again it expands to /eqcompare hoverlink_hoverlink instead of hoverlink_save`
`11:20.56`	`CIA-17`	`03hshh * r13866 10EQCompare/ (EQCompare.lua localization.cn.lua localization.lua):`
`11:20.56`	`CIA-17`	`EQCompare:`
`11:20.56`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:21.52`	`Worf`	`so - is there maybe a glitch in the tab completion code?`
`11:23.01`	`Worf`	`i assume this is a AceConsole thing, isn't it?`
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`11:32.11`	`CIA-17`	`03gamefaq * r13867 10PerfectRaid/Localization.deDE.lua: Updated deDE Translation`
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`11:33.19`	`maia`	`haha, Cladhaire is mentioned in the Blizzard lua code`
`11:33.28`	`maia`	`http://wdn.wowinterface.com/detail/2005991/live/124 line 131`
`11:35.24`	`phyber`	`http://cardboardium.com/pl/?q=13`
`11:35.36`	`phyber`	`anyone know why Tablet is breaking when I try to use the clickable tooltip?`
`11:35.44`	`phyber`	`error and piece of code breaking it there.`
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`11:38.18`	`phyber`	`works if I do the 'func', 'function() something end,'`
`11:38.26`	`phyber`	`but since I already have a function, I just want to point it to that :/`
`11:38.50`	`nevcairiel`	`do function() YourFunction() end`
`11:39.09`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r13868 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files):`
`11:39.09`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames`
`11:39.09`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:39.32`	`pastamancer`	`maia: I have code for you to look at`
`11:39.33`	`cncfanatics`	`grrrrr`
`11:39.36`	`cncfanatics`	`this is sooo anoying`
`11:39.41`	`andreasg`	`gogo the little SVN commit that could`
`11:39.52`	`maia`	`pastamancer: shouldnt you be asleep?`
`11:39.55`	`cncfanatics`	`who knows how to place an action on a button on click and not on drag ?`
`11:40.16`	`pastamancer`	`maia: I should and will be very soon`
`11:40.23`	`andreasg`	`use OnClick instead of OnDrag? :S`
`11:40.28`	`cncfanatics`	`can't in TBC`
`11:40.34`	`cncfanatics`	`OnClick is taken by the securetemplate`
`11:40.47`	`phyber`	`nevcairiel: yeah. I could, and it works like that. but it's supposed to work by giving it the name of your already defined function too.`
`11:40.55`	`phyber`	`nevcairiel: so, I want to know why it doesn't work :/`
`11:41.02`	`cncfanatics`	`anyway, I cant find any placeaction in the FrameXML code except in ReceiveDrag`
`11:41.07`	`cncfanatics`	`so i'm wondering how blizz does it -.-`
`11:41.10`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone a clue ?`
`11:41.14`	`nevcairiel`	`phyber: i dont know _why_ it doesnt work, but i noticed it already as well`
`11:41.24`	`CIA-17`	`03mikma * r13869 10Popsicle/Popsicle.lua: Popsicle: Removed the chatmod code. Now the Raidtab also has Party in it. That means there is now also a Partycheck in Popsicle`
`11:41.51`	`phyber`	`nevcairiel: \o/`
`11:41.55`	`phyber`	`I got it :)`
`11:42.00`	`nevcairiel`	`what did you change?`
`11:42.12`	`phyber`	`when you give the 'func' just the string, your arg1 needs to be self.`
`11:42.18`	`phyber`	`"func", "ToggleCVar",`
`11:42.18`	`phyber`	`"arg1", self,`
`11:42.19`	`phyber`	`"arg2", "UnitNamePlayer`
`11:42.22`	`nevcairiel`	`ah.`
`11:42.29`	`phyber`	`:D`
`11:46.07`	`Mikma`	`mm`
`11:47.40`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r13870 10ag_UnitFrames/ (6 files): ag_UF(Branch): merged trunk changes`
`11:50.54`	`yacoob`	`hm`
`11:51.02`	`yacoob`	`perhaps blizz should be poked about saved variables per realm?`
`11:51.19`	`nevcairiel`	`andreasg: recode the aura system, im getting bored merging my branch :D`
`11:52.43`	`Mikma`	`now this is a hard one`
`11:53.00`	`Mikma`	`i'm trying to hook ChatFrameXTab:Show() now to show the Tab.. but can't do it :P`
`11:53.17`	`nevcairiel`	`why not?`
`11:53.47`	`Mikma`	`i suck, that's why :)`
`11:53.51`	`Mikma`	`i have no idea how to do it`
`11:54.10`	`nevcairiel`	`just do it, dont think about it :)`
`11:54.27`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r13871 10FuBar_NameToggleFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_NameToggleFu.toc):`
`11:54.27`	`CIA-17`	`NameToggleFu:`
`11:54.27`	`CIA-17`	`- Added Shift-Click to toggle NPC names.`
`11:54.27`	`CIA-17`	`- Added clickable tooltip for quick toggling of various settings.`
`11:54.35`	`nevcairiel`	`oh, and read the acehook wiki page`
`11:54.36`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`11:55.30`	`Mikma`	`well i still don't have a clue on how to do it ;)`
`11:55.39`	`Mikma`	`so i have to test n+1 methods hehe`
`11:57.07`	`nevcairiel`	`self:Hook(ChatFrameXTab, "Show", "ChatTabShowHandler")`
`11:57.14`	`nevcairiel`	`or something`
`11:59.24`	`Mikma`	`well there's the problem i have, i have to use ChatFrame..self.db.profile.value :P`
`11:59.49`	`nevcairiel`	`use _G["ChatFrame"..value.."Tab"]`
`12:00.21`	`andreasg`	`nevcairiel: I can't go around breaking the aura display while I am grinding to rank 13`
`12:00.31`	`nevcairiel`	`stupid pvp`
`12:00.31`	`andreasg`	`that would fuck me up good`
`12:00.34`	`nevcairiel`	`::D`
`12:00.52`	`nevcairiel`	`where are you at? :)`
`12:00.56`	`andreasg`	`12`
`12:00.59`	`andreasg`	`9%`
`12:01.04`	`nevcairiel`	`not too bad`
`12:01.17`	`andreasg`	`yep I am done in two weeks`
`12:02.41`	`andreasg`	`nothing's preventing someone else from trying to rewrite it from scratch`
`12:04.08`	`nevcairiel`	`mhm, i tend to kill my addons right before raids, that would suck :D`
`12:04.55`	`andreasg`	`back in the days when I when I were raiding I had nothing against breaking my addons while doing it`
`12:05.03`	`andreasg`	`because well... raiding is slacking`
`12:05.08`	`andreasg`	`and you still got easy epics for it`
`12:05.27`	`nevcairiel`	`hm`
`12:05.35`	`andreasg`	`when I farmteam I need to have proper stuff working so I can heal and shit :P`
`12:05.56`	`nevcairiel`	`i need proper stuff in naxx, or i suck :D`
`12:06.21`	`nevcairiel`	`well`
`12:06.31`	`nevcairiel`	`buffs wouldnt be that important`
`12:06.57`	`andreasg`	`well it's true when you're learning instances or whatever`
`12:07.45`	`andreasg`	`but still most of the time when you're raiding the difference between 39 and 40 people is so small that if you slack and break addons noone will really notice`
`12:08.10`	`nevcairiel`	`only time you can really test some addons anyway :)`
`12:08.25`	`andreasg`	`that was what made me bored of raids anyway`
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`12:09.22`	`andreasg`	`that you could slack through 90% of it and still win epics`
`12:09.32`	`andreasg`	`:P`
`12:09.47`	`nevcairiel`	`you can, but you dont have to, you can have fun :)`
`12:09.59`	`haste`	`Mikma: the ChatFrames's uses an OnUpdate to check if the mouse is over them`
`12:10.01`	`nevcairiel`	`and with raiding naxx, you cannot :)`
`12:11.15`	`nevcairiel`	`anyway, need to buy some food, bbl`
`12:11.23`	`andreasg`	`but I guess I am going to enjoy pve a lot more in BC`
`12:11.39`	`nevcairiel`	`the small instances will be great again`
`12:11.46`	`nevcairiel`	`like the 5 man`
`12:12.08`	`haste`	`I'm not looking forward to the time from now, to BC`
`12:12.16`	`andreasg`	`I enjoy that much more, the small instances`
`12:12.21`	`Mikk`	`same`
`12:12.21`	`haste`	`I cba to drycode things to work now and on BC`
`12:12.30`	`haste`	`so I'll probably just put everything on hold until then`
`12:12.31`	`andreasg`	`~haste`
`12:12.37`	`purl`	`i heard haste is a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo.`
`12:12.37`	`nevcairiel`	`im looking forward to the time after that time you mentioned haste :)`
`12:12.49`	`Zicon`	`porn...voices?`
`12:13.17`	`haste`	`Zicon: some person that was kicked from our guild a long time ago made up stories about the people who stood out in the guild`
`12:13.20`	`andreasg`	`haste: I fixed some things so it might have a better chance at working in BC`
`12:13.50`	`haste`	`andreasg: I mainly code for myself only, and as long as I don't have a beta account, I don't give a crap until it breaks`
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`12:14.00`	`haste`	`or when the PTR comes`
`12:14.38`	`andreasg`	`I do too but I'd like to have stuff working for myself so I can actually play on release day`
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`12:14.51`	`haste`	`they are releasing a PTR you know`
`12:15.01`	`andreasg`	`any info on that?`
`12:15.06`	`haste`	`with only Lua 5.1 and WoW 2.0.0 API afaik`
`12:15.14`	`nevcairiel`	`PTR on EU = massive battleground`
`12:15.18`	`nevcairiel`	`always the same`
`12:15.21`	`nevcairiel`	`screw the morons.`
`12:15.25`	`andreasg`	`oh, nice haste , when?`
`12:15.27`	`haste`	`nevcairiel: nice that I code during the nights`
`12:15.29`	`haste`	`andreasg: no idea`
`12:15.37`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: thanks :)`
`12:15.38`	`andreasg`	`where did you find the info on that?`
`12:16.05`	`haste`	`Someone asked in the massive WoW 2.0.0 thread if it would be released as a PTR`
`12:16.09`	`nevcairiel`	`only the API, no new content? thats a nice idea somehow`
`12:16.11`	`haste`	`the answer was: that's the plan`
`12:16.18`	`haste`	`nevcairiel: I don't know about the content`
`12:16.20`	`haste`	`that's a guess`
`12:16.35`	`nevcairiel`	`at least it would keep lots of people of the servers`
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`12:17.21`	`nevcairiel`	`anyway, i need to go`
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`12:17.41`	`maia`	`I think thats "1.13" which basically is wow2 without new content`
`12:18.39`	`haste`	`probably`
`12:19.14`	`maia`	`they need a seperate patch anyway, for all the people not upgrading on day1`
`12:19.59`	`CIA-17`	`03cncfanatics * r13872 10FlexBar2/ (FlexBar2.toc FlexBar2_Controller.lua FlexBar2_View.lua): FlexBar2: Using WoW 2.0.0 compatible code WILL NOT WORK IN 1.12 ANYMORE`
`12:20.15`	`haste`	`cncfanatics: no need to use caps`
`12:20.39`	`cncfanatics`	`just do that so I don't get too much msgs with saying it dsnt work, i'm sure I still will tho :p`
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`12:20.46`	`haste`	`you will`
`12:20.51`	`haste`	`that's why there is no reason to use caps`
`12:20.58`	`Mikma`	`umh i don't get it`
`12:21.05`	`Mikma`	`why make addons not compatible with 1.12?`
`12:21.12`	`cncfanatics`	`i'm coding for burning crusade`
`12:21.15`	`maia`	`flexbar?`
`12:21.28`	`maia`	`wasnt flexbar dead a year ago?`
`12:21.51`	`Mikma`	`that's kinda dull for limiting people out like that because BC is not out yet.. oh well it's only flexbar after all :P`
`12:22.11`	`cncfanatics`	`its not like its flexbar1 -.-`
`12:22.17`	`cncfanatics`	`just experimental code for flexbar2 lol`
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`12:22.38`	`cncfanatics`	`flexbar1 still around for 1.12`
`12:23.24`	`Mikma`	`and so are 97% of wowplayers ;)`
`12:23.34`	`cncfanatics`	`heh, true :p`
`12:24.34`	`haste`	`-.- has to be the most annoying smiley ever`
`12:24.42`	`haste`	`same with the word: careface`
`12:24.49`	`haste`	`which is what the smiley represents`
`12:25.05`	`Mikma`	`haste: i like my alias:`
`12:25.08`	`Mikma`	`haste: ,,!,, (O_o) .!.`
`12:25.11`	`Mikma`	`;)`
`12:25.12`	`haste`	`:<`
`12:25.14`	`Mikma`	`it's just /fu haste`
`12:25.15`	`Mikma`	`hehe`
`12:25.28`	`cncfanatics`	`I like my smiley :p`
`12:25.34`	`Mikma`	`oh i also have a /mfu ;)`
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`12:25.47`	`haste`	`haha`
`12:28.00`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r13873 10FuBar_NameToggleFu/Core.lua:`
`12:28.00`	`CIA-17`	`NameToggleFu:`
`12:28.00`	`CIA-17`	`- Made :OnMenuRequest use the same style functions as the Tooltip.`
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`12:48.14`	`Kala\|Sleep`	`cncfanatics: 'allo`
`12:48.48`	`cncfanatics`	`hello`
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`12:49.08`	`Kalamadi`	`Want my slashcommands code?`
`12:49.24`	`cncfanatics`	`after I finish getting the basics working with BC, sure`
`12:49.35`	`Kalamadi`	`Okay.`
`12:49.38`	`cncfanatics`	`let me first focus on getting everything that worked with 1.12 work perfectly fine`
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`12:52.15`	`Kalamadi`	`I want to ride a skyboat =(`
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`12:57.52`	`cncfanatics`	`I want changing button's location to work with 2.0.0 !`
`12:58.18`	`Kalamadi`	`In combat? 'fraid that won't work :/`
`12:58.31`	`cncfanatics`	`not in combat`
`12:58.32`	`cncfanatics`	`ooc :p`
`12:58.37`	`Kalamadi`	`Oh.`
`12:59.07`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r13874 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_DropdownMenu.lua:`
`12:59.07`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames`
`12:59.07`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:05.33`	`packetlss`	`ag: is it possible to color the health bar on hostile targets based on class in agUF?`
`13:12.00`	`CIA-17`	`03mikma * r13875 10Popsicle/Popsicle.lua:`
`13:12.00`	`CIA-17`	`Popsicle:`
`13:12.00`	`CIA-17`	`* Visibility can be toggled on/off`
`13:12.00`	`CIA-17`	`* GroupChatTab can be toggled on/off (yes, the one which appears on mouseover)`
`13:12.23`	`Kalamadi`	`~seen pastamancer`
`13:12.38`	`purl`	`pastamancer is currently on #wowace (7d 23h 11m 31s). Has said a total of 380 messages. Is idling for 1h 32m 22s, last said: 'maia: I should and will be very soon'.`
`13:15.59`	`Mikma`	`hmm i was just wondering about that "dreamchat" thread`
`13:16.16`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2571`
`13:17.42`	`packetlss`	`ok, who the hell broke AceEvent?`
`13:19.09`	`Kalamadi`	`He did -->`
`13:19.21`	`Mikma`	`damn that --> ! the bastard`
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`13:25.36`	`Mikma`	`KaeltenAway: fix teh board`
`13:25.53`	`CIA-17`	`03nimbal 07Nimbal * r13876 10Buffalo/Buffalo/ (Buffalo.lua BuffaloDefaults.lua BuffaloOptions.lua): Buffalo (branch): Restructuring code to allow extra buff icons. Non-functional at the moment, use trunk version.`
`13:27.06`	`andreasg`	`who maintains fubar on curse-gaming? Because it's still 1.2 on there`
`13:28.04`	`Kalamadi`	`He does -->`
`13:29.27`	`Mikma`	`damn that --> ! the bastard`
`13:31.34`	`SH\|Shabador`	`Hm... Didn't there excist a mod called AutoTurnin on the svn? Whatever happened to it?`
`13:34.04`	`_icetrain`	`Tekkub: Pleae fix your previously broekn commit of AceEvent :)`
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`13:41.14`	`cncfanatics`	`acevent-2.0 error when looting:`
`13:41.35`	`cncfanatics`	`line 907: attempt to call global print (a nil value)`
`13:41.38`	`cncfanatics`	`in TBC :p`
`13:41.46`	`[LS]Alizia`	`hehe`
`13:42.04`	`_icetrain`	`Tekkub's mess :)`
`13:42.04`	`Iceroth`	`huh, they nerfed print() ?`
`13:42.43`	`Quantuvis`	`there never was a print(), just a lot of addons that add it for convenience :)`
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`13:43.16`	`Mikma`	`self:print("foobar")`
`13:43.29`	`[LS]Alizia`	`God..`
`13:43.33`	`[LS]Alizia`	`level 60-61 is...long xD`
`13:43.40`	`[LS]Alizia`	`415500 xp :/`
`13:43.52`	`Mikma`	`.setlevel 70`
`13:44.01`	`[LS]Alizia`	`hehe`
`13:44.02`	`Mikma`	`ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding`
`13:44.04`	`[LS]Alizia`	`Riiiight.`
`13:44.14`	`[LS]Alizia`	I`d have to login for that xD
`13:44.21`	`cncfanatics`	`lvl cap is 67 :p`
`13:44.36`	`\|Pixel\|`	`heh`
`13:44.43`	`\|Pixel\|`	`the .commands are invented in the private servers only :)`
`13:44.53`	`Mikma`	`bingo!`
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`13:49.37`	`cncfanatics`	`anyway, someone change that on the svn ?`
`13:57.20`	`Laric`	`hmm wonder where one might find a beta key`
`13:57.28`	`cncfanatics`	`ebay`
`13:57.34`	`cncfanatics`	`300 bucks for a key :p`
`13:59.14`	`Laric`	`I wont pay 300 bucks for a key`
`13:59.19`	`Laric`	`just to test my addons`
`13:59.39`	`cncfanatics`	`ask ckknight where he got his then, he managed to get one :p`
`14:02.23`	`lyf`
`14:04.26`	`Mikma`	`crap!`
`14:04.39`	`Laric`	`will do when I see him`
`14:04.41`	`Mikma`	`i made a post about Popsicle and i quit firefox xD`
`14:04.46`	`Mikma`	`well now i have to write it again`
`14:05.11`	`Mikma`	`i'm thinking that i should extend Popsicle to have the DreamChat mockup in it`
`14:05.12`	`Laric`	`as I want a euro key wich he doesnt :O`
`14:05.36`	`cladhaire`	`i'll give you two guesses where he got his =)`
`14:05.47`	`Laric`	`from you :P`
`14:05.54`	`cladhaire`	`hahaha not quite.`
`14:05.59`	`Mikma`	`from blizzard?`
`14:06.14`	`cladhaire`	`nope`
`14:06.18`	`axxo`	`ebay!`
`14:06.21`	`cladhaire`	`you each have one guess left.`
`14:06.22`	`cladhaire`	`nope`
`14:06.27`	`cladhaire`	`(you guys need to try harder than this)`
`14:06.30`	`Laric`	`cairenne`
`14:06.32`	`axxo`	`dedicated followee fanboys`
`14:06.32`	`Mikma`	`slouken`
`14:06.35`	`cladhaire`	`its an EU key`
`14:06.38`	`cladhaire`	`_EU_`
`14:07.35`	`cladhaire`	`you guys suck at this game =)`
`14:07.45`	`Laric`	`I used my 2 guesses :P`
`14:07.58`	`cncfanatics`	`from you ?`
`14:08.00`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire`
`14:08.05`	`cladhaire`	`shake`
`14:08.08`	`cncfanatics`	`first guess btw :p`
`14:08.09`	`Laric`	`nah I tried that`
`14:08.10`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: He told you, i believe =)`
`14:08.16`	`cladhaire`	`I think I have logs that say he did :P`
`14:08.16`	`cncfanatics`	`nope he didnt :p`
`14:08.24`	`cncfanatics`	`he just said from some guy at curse`
`14:08.40`	`cladhaire`	`...`
`14:08.42`	`cladhaire`	`then there's your answer?`
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`14:08.50`	`axxo`	`some guy is too random`
`14:08.50`	`cladhaire`	`O.o?`
`14:08.51`	`Iceroth`	`oh c'mon, just spill it out you tease :p`
`14:09.00`	`axxo`	`or i was right, fanboy :p`
`14:09.07`	`cladhaire`	`... he got it from curse, cause he's butt buddies with them, for some inexplicable reason =)`
`14:09.14`	`cncfanatics`	`btw cladhaire, while ur here, cld u help me with some addon issue in TBC I can't get over with ?`
`14:09.21`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: yeah, shoot.`
`14:09.44`	`cncfanatics`	`well, u know, when dragging an action button`
`14:09.52`	`cncfanatics`	`if u release ur mouse button while ur dragging`
`14:10.05`	`cncfanatics`	`and then click while the action is still on ur cursor on an actionbutton`
`14:10.21`	`cncfanatics`	`then the action on the actionbutton & the one on ur cursor will switch out without the spell being cast`
`14:10.25`	`cncfanatics`	`how do u do that in TBC ? -.-`
`14:11.56`	`cncfanatics`	`got an idea ? cladhaire ? been stuck with that for hours now`
`14:12.03`	`cladhaire`	`let me hop in and test, but nothing should have changed`
`14:12.30`	`cncfanatics`	`well, I never managed to do it in 1.12 either, so explain me how to do it :p`
`14:12.31`	`cladhaire`	`the default UI does it.`
`14:12.34`	`cladhaire`	`I put Shoot in slot 7`
`14:12.35`	`cncfanatics`	`ye, how ?`
`14:12.38`	`cladhaire`	`I open the spellbook,`
`14:13.00`	`cladhaire`	`Grab Mana Tap. I let go (once i've started dragging it), and place it on slot 7.. it then swaps with shoot.`
`14:13.35`	`packetlss`	`cladhaire: you got access to commit to Ace2?`
`14:13.36`	`cladhaire`	`the default UI code should tell you what its doing, but its basically OnDragStart and OnDragRecieve (the first in SPellBookFrame.xxx and the second in the ActionButton code)`
`14:13.40`	`cladhaire`	`packetlss: yes`
`14:13.49`	`cncfanatics`	`ReceiveDrag doesn't work`
`14:13.56`	`cncfanatics`	`only works if u keep dragging the button`
`14:13.58`	`cncfanatics`	`not when u click it`
`14:14.00`	`cncfanatics`	`for me at least`
`14:14.06`	`cladhaire`	`then there's gotta be another script.`
`14:14.07`	`cladhaire`	`gimme a second.`
`14:14.13`	`cncfanatics`	`wait, lemme check`
`14:14.23`	`cncfanatics`	`this is my ReceiveDrag code:`
`14:14.24`	`cncfanatics`	`FlexBar2:Debug("ReceiveAction");`
`14:14.24`	`cncfanatics`	`PlaceAction(FlexBar2.Model:GetButtonSetting(this:GetClass().ButtonNumber, "ButtonID")); -- Place the action on the button`
`14:14.28`	`packetlss`	`cladhaire: would you mind fixing the 'print' that Tekkub commited earlier in AceEvent? it breaks stuff hard`
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`14:17.36`	Funkeh`	`hey all :)`
`14:17.40`	`cncfanatics`	`hello`
`14:17.43`	`Xuerian`	`heya :P`
`14:19.27`	`cladhaire`	`whats breaking, the print or the sendaddonmessage?`
`14:19.38`	`cncfanatics`	`print`
`14:19.53`	`cladhaire`	`hrm, okay`
`14:20.22`	`packetlss`	`cladhaire: thx`
`14:20.38`	`cncfanatics`	`gonna do an svn update * as soon as thats commited :p`
`14:20.43`	`Mikma`	`theeere we go.`
`14:20.53`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2630.0`
`14:21.42`	`packetlss`	`cladhaire: the print is breaking`
`14:23.13`	`CIA-17`	`03cladhaire * r13877 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent-2.0: Reverted tekkub's change from last night. Perhaps UnitName("target") isn't always available. Its causing issues on a number of clients.`
`14:23.47`	`cncfanatics`	`thanks :)`
`14:23.55`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: It has to be OnReceiveDrag.. check ActionBarFrame.xml`
`14:24.19`	`cladhaire`	`if ( LOCK_ACTIONBAR ~= "1" ) then`
`14:24.19`	`cladhaire`	`PlaceAction(ActionButton_GetPagedID(this));`
`14:24.20`	`cladhaire`	`ActionButton_UpdateHotkeys(this.buttonType);`
`14:24.20`	`cladhaire`	`ActionButton_UpdateState();`
`14:24.20`	`cladhaire`	`ActionButton_UpdateFlash();`
`14:24.21`	`cncfanatics`	`I know, its the only place its handeled by the blizz UI`
`14:24.22`	`cladhaire`	`end`
`14:24.31`	`cncfanatics`	`but that dsnt work for me :/`
`14:25.02`	`cncfanatics`	`my onrecieve code is PlaceAction(FlexBar2.Model:GetButtonSetting(this:GetClass().ButtonNumber, "ButtonID")); -- Place the action on the button`
`14:25.05`	`cncfanatics`	`and that doesn't work`
`14:25.16`	`cncfanatics`	`well, at least not when just clicking while something is on ur cursor`
`14:25.32`	`cncfanatics`	`it just casts the spell as if I clicked it`
`14:25.55`	`cncfanatics`	`and ReceiveDrag doesn't get triggered at all, as my debug output doesn't show up :/`
`14:26.36`	`cladhaire`	`did you registerfordrag?`
`14:27.03`	`Mikma`	`RegisterForDragQueen`
`14:27.39`	`cncfanatics`	`doubt its that, as I can drag stuff off the button`
`14:27.43`	`cncfanatics`	`lemme dbl-check my code`
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`14:28.32`	`cncfanatics`	`yep I do`
`14:28.37`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`hi people`
`14:28.38`	`cncfanatics`	`but wait, i'll commit my code into the svn`
`14:28.43`	`cncfanatics`	`so u can check it directly :p`
`14:28.43`	`Kalamadi`	`Grrr.`
`14:28.46`	`cncfanatics`	`if u want to ofc ?`
`14:29.02`	`Kalamadi`	`I'm trying to register an event with Banzai-1.0, but I can't get it to work right >_<`
`14:29.24`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`little q for you`
`14:29.57`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`if i want sth to be printed in the raid chat, what is the code?`
`14:30.36`	`Kalamadi`	`cladhaire: I'm calling GridStatusAggro.lua in the TOC file, and, in function GridStatusAggro:OnInitialize(), I'm registering with the Banzai events. There's a debug statement in there and it's not firing.`
`14:30.48`	`cncfanatics`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage shld help u Moondrake[G5]`
`14:31.36`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`ah thx i was searching for that but blind on 2 eyes`
`14:33.34`	`CIA-17`	`03cncfanatics * r13878 10FlexBar2/ (FlexBar2.toc FlexBar2_Controller.lua FlexBar2_View.lua): Fixed bug where when dragging the actionbutton of a buff currently on you it would occasionaly not relight the bug after dragging and fixed, added keybindings (code commented out till it fully works)`
`14:34.05`	`Kalamadi`	`cncfanatics: I'll toss my slashcommands code up on pastey, okay?`
`14:34.14`	`cncfanatics`	`damn, forgot to put FlexBar2 in front of my svn note`
`14:34.17`	`cncfanatics`	`ok Kalamadi`
`14:35.07`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire, got a clue why it ain't working yet ?`
`14:36.41`	`Kalamadi`	`cncfanatics: http://ace.pastey.net/1546`
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`14:37.29`	`andreasg`	`does anyone know how to fix the bug where you are in the BG but not in the BG group?`
`14:37.51`	`andreasg`	`usually happens if you relog while inside a BG`
`14:38.07`	`Kalamadi`	`andreasg: I don't think so. It's been bugged recently; I can leave a raid group, but still have the raid list appear in PRaid/raid tab`
`14:38.28`	`cncfanatics`	`thanks Kalamadi :)`
`14:38.29`	`andreasg`	`it sucks hard, not sure it registers the HKs I get`
`14:38.38`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: Not sure.. i would do anything you can to emulate the actionbutton code adns tart there.`
`14:38.41`	`Kalamadi`	`cncfanatics: You're welcome.`
`14:39.14`	`Kalamadi`	`cncfanatics: Oh, don't forget to register with AceConsole if you're not already`
`14:40.07`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire still here ? -.-`
`14:40.15`	`cladhaire`	`yes`
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`14:41.04`	`cncfanatics`	`cld u check my code and tell me whats wrong for what I said to work ?`
`14:41.08`	`cncfanatics`	`its on the SVN`
`14:41.14`	`cncfanatics`	`i'd love u if u did that :p`
`14:41.31`	`cladhaire`	`where? i dont have much time but i'll try to look`
`14:41.45`	`cncfanatics`	`http://www.wowace.com/files/FlexBar2/FlexBar2-r13878.zip`
`14:41.47`	`cncfanatics`	`that'll do`
`14:41.59`	`cladhaire`	`no, link me to the code, or the trac if you dont mind.`
`14:42.23`	`cncfanatics`	`http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FlexBar2/FlexBar2_Controller.lua`
`14:42.28`	`cncfanatics`	`the trac ? whats that btw?`
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`14:43.00`	`cladhaire`	`wowace.com/trac`
`14:43.04`	`cladhaire`	`does DragAction get called/`
`14:43.12`	`cladhaire`	`you have debug messages in here, what gets called?`
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`14:43.37`	`cncfanatics`	`when I do what I said ?`
`14:43.45`	`cladhaire`	`yeah`
`14:43.50`	`cncfanatics`	`PreClick, OnClick & PostClick, just like I wld click it normaly`
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`14:45.29`	`cladhaire`	`DragAction is never called?`
`14:45.43`	`cncfanatics`	`Only when I keep the button dragged and stop dragging while i'm over the action button`
`14:46.01`	`cladhaire`	`no, DragAction is called when you START dragging, how you end up with it doesn't matter =)`
`14:46.07`	`cladhaire`	`jsut trying to walk through one step at a time.`
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`14:46.37`	`cncfanatics`	`bah, back, gaim closed on me`
`14:46.42`	`Mikma`	`http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5505-1-ora-pack.html`
`14:46.50`	`cladhaire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:46.54`	`cladhaire`	`[10:45] <@cladhaire> jsut trying to walk through one step at a time.`
`14:47.13`	`cncfanatics`	`oh nvm, thought u ment ReceiveDrag :p`
`14:47.30`	`cladhaire`	`nope =)`
`14:47.33`	`cncfanatics`	`dragaction gets called when dragging an actionbutton off a button idd, no problems at all with that`
`14:47.54`	`cladhaire`	`okay`
`14:48.24`	`cladhaire`	`and it removes it from the button?`
`14:48.45`	`cncfanatics`	`ye`
`14:48.57`	`cladhaire`	`idont see anything immediately wrong =(`
`14:49.14`	`cncfanatics`	`thats why I've been stuck on it for hours now :/`
`14:49.59`	`cladhaire`	`I'd start witha minimal example.`
`14:50.02`	`cladhaire`	`and make it work on those two buttons.`
`14:50.06`	`cladhaire`	`no extra code`
`14:50.09`	`cladhaire`	`just two buttons with handlers =)`
`14:50.21`	`cncfanatics`	`never got it working on that either`
`14:51.22`	`Kalamadi`	`~seen pastamancer`
`14:51.34`	`purl`	`pastamancer is currently on #wowace (8d 50m 27s). Has said a total of 380 messages. Is idling for 3h 11m 18s, last said: 'maia: I should and will be very soon'.`
`14:51.47`	`cladhaire`	`if you use exactly the code from the xml, it should work =(`
`14:52.04`	`[LS]Alizia`	`Dear god, I am using the Blizzard combat log thingie :/`
`14:52.13`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, true, i'll try that :)`
`14:52.18`	`cncfanatics`	`damn nvm`
`14:52.19`	`cncfanatics`	`I can't`
`14:52.25`	`cncfanatics`	`its secure code, my addon ain't secure`
`14:52.44`	`cladhaire`	`.. do it on live.`
`14:52.44`	`CIA-17`	`03curney * r13879 10Prat/modules/ (PlayerNames.lua Who.lua):`
`14:52.44`	`CIA-17`	`Prat:`
`14:52.44`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed issue with brackets in playernames not working`
`14:52.44`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed issue with who not toggling enabled/disabled`
`14:52.51`	`cladhaire`	`secure code has nothing in the way here.`
`14:52.51`	`Kalamadi`	`Send it to a psychiartist.`
`14:53.10`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, guess I can just ignore the OnClick handler`
`14:53.16`	`cncfanatics`	`or at least comment out UseAction`
`14:57.10`	`Kalamadi`	`Hrm`
`14:59.06`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: Yeah, thats what I'd try to do`
`14:59.25`	`cncfanatics`	`testing things out with fb1 now`
`14:59.29`	`cncfanatics`	`seems its OnClick after all`
`14:59.43`	`cncfanatics`	`(I didnt code that part of fb1, sadly, else i'd know how todo it :p)`
`14:59.48`	`cncfanatics`	`thanks for the tips cladhaire :)`
`14:59.52`	`cladhaire`	`np =)`
`14:59.59`	`cladhaire`	`how many of you guys are wokring on FB2?`
`15:00.12`	`cncfanatics`	`only me atm`
`15:00.26`	`cladhaire`	`boo`
`15:00.36`	`cncfanatics`	`lol, why ? :p`
`15:01.11`	`cladhaire`	`cause its a huge project =)`
`15:01.20`	`cladhaire`	`trust me, i know the attributes and they're a pain =)`
`15:02.23`	`Kalamadi`	`cladhaire: He has my help if he needs it.`
`15:02.28`	`Mikma`	`there we go`
`15:02.36`	`Mikma`	`i just preordered BC 31,90e`
`15:02.48`	`Kalamadi`	`~$40 US, eh?`
`15:03.17`	`yacoob`	`...allright something cancels my trade window. :)`
`15:04.50`	`Mikma`	`Kalamadi: not sure about the currency`
`15:04.50`	`cncfanatics`	`found it`
`15:04.56`	`cncfanatics`	`at least I found how it works on live`
`15:04.59`	`cncfanatics`	`but that won't work in TBC`
`15:05.15`	`cncfanatics`	`its done passing a flag to UseAction`
`15:05.22`	`cncfanatics`	`but I can't call useaction in TBC, so -.-`
`15:06.38`	`cncfanatics`	`sucks , guess i'll need to find a way around it`
`15:06.59`	`yacoob`	`http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5505-1-ora-pack.html`
`15:07.05`	`Mikma`	`oooold!`
`15:07.07`	`yacoob`	`...someone distributes ora1`
`15:07.11`	`Mikma`	`<1746> <Mikma> http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5505-1-ora-pack.html`
`15:07.15`	`Mikma`	`;D`
`15:07.17`	Funkeh`	`wth, just noticed babble and compost still have the 1.11 toc ^^ was wondering why they didnt load, damn patches`
`15:07.19`	`CIA-17`	`03xuerian * r13880 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Cleanup commit to propagate fixed AceEvent`
`15:08.27`	`cncfanatics`	`ok cladhaire, I found how its done, you need to pass an optional flag to UseAction, but UseAction is a protected function in TBC, got an idea how to get around it ?`
`15:10.45`	`cladhaire`	`wait.. it shouldn't involve UseAction at all.`
`15:10.47`	`cladhaire`	`i'm confused.`
`15:10.51`	`cladhaire`	`do you have a small example you can pastey?`
`15:11.08`	`cncfanatics`	`UseAction(action, 0, unit); is in the current TBC code`
`15:11.11`	`cncfanatics`	`that doesn't work`
`15:11.12`	`Xuerian`	`Wouldn't tbc use a protected template and handle the useaction bit itself?`
`15:11.13`	`cncfanatics`	`if it was:`
`15:11.20`	`cncfanatics`	`UseAction(action, 1, unit); it would work`
`15:11.34`	`cncfanatics`	`the second flag, if its set to one the actions will switch when clicked of the cursor has one`
`15:11.45`	`cncfanatics`	`if its set to 0 (as it currently is in TBC); it won't`
`15:11.57`	`cladhaire`	`Are you 100% positive, cause that's entirely arbitrary`
`15:12.09`	`cncfanatics`	`i'm 100% positive of that`
`15:12.32`	`cncfanatics`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UseAction wowwiki confirms what I thought also`
`15:13.15`	`cladhaire`	`hrm`
`15:13.19`	`cladhaire`	`well you can't use useaction at all`
`15:13.29`	`cladhaire`	`so that shoudln't matter`
`15:13.48`	`cncfanatics`	`well, still gets called in the secure code in the way I don't want to`
`15:14.00`	`cncfanatics`	`so I pretty much can't help it except if blizz changes that flag to 1 it seems :/`
`15:14.50`	`nevcairiel`	`hrm, changing a raidframe addon to dynamicly create its frames is harder then writing one from scratch with all that in mind. some times coding sucks :)`
`15:14.52`	`cladhaire`	`okay, I'm confused =/`
`15:15.00`	`cladhaire`	`What are you trying to accomplish right now? =)`
`15:15.26`	`cncfanatics`	`get the actions to switch when clicking on a button while an action is on ur cursor`
`15:15.35`	`cladhaire`	`on what button`
`15:15.41`	`cncfanatics`	`flexbar2 actionbuttons`
`15:15.49`	`cladhaire`	`then you don't have an issue`
`15:15.57`	`cladhaire`	`your handlers need to be different than blizzard's since you can't use UseAction`
`15:16.04`	`CIA-17`	`03thisterhall * r13881 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Misc/PTEmbedElemMisc.lua: PeriodicTable Added Greater Dreamless Sleep Potion 20002:2100 to potionrejuv`
`15:16.23`	`cncfanatics`	`There's no handler at all for onclick, I MUST inherit from SecureActionButtonTemplate`
`15:16.38`	`cncfanatics`	`so its blizz's code that handles all onclick stuff`
`15:17.11`	`cladhaire`	`they handle onclick, yes.`
`15:17.14`	`cladhaire`	`but that isn't an issue here.`
`15:17.21`	`cladhaire`	`onclick only does something if your attributes tell it to`
`15:17.31`	`cncfanatics`	`it is, the button doesn't react correctly when clicked`
`15:17.58`	`cladhaire`	`do you have a minimal working example I can look at?`
`15:18.06`	`cncfanatics`	`and thats because SecureActionTemplate does seTAction(action, 0, unit); instead of setAction(action, 1, unit);`
`15:18.21`	`cladhaire`	`you dont WANT to have an action type set when you'r edong the dragging.`
`15:18.30`	`cladhaire`	`because you don't want it to cast`
`15:18.36`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, true`
`15:18.38`	`cladhaire`	`that code is not meant to handle your ondragreceives.`
`15:18.46`	`cladhaire`	`disable the "type", "action"`
`15:19.02`	`cladhaire`	`when you're dragging`
`15:19.23`	`cncfanatics`	`I can do that in PreClick ?`
`15:19.39`	`cladhaire`	`or OnDragStart`
`15:19.43`	`cladhaire`	`since drag is what you're concerned with`
`15:19.48`	`cncfanatics`	`can't`
`15:19.52`	`cladhaire`	`why not?`
`15:20.03`	`cncfanatics`	`OnDragStart will unregister the button u dragged it from, not the button ur dragging it to`
`15:20.17`	`cncfanatics`	`except if I unregister all actionbuttons, hmmm`
`15:20.29`	`cladhaire`	`you have to unregister all`
`15:20.34`	`haste`	`Shazzrah just blocked my rogues shadowbolt`
`15:20.44`	`cncfanatics`	`one last concern, what function/event is used when rightclicking while ur dragging an action ?`
`15:20.56`	`cncfanatics`	`as that removes the action from ur cursor I need to detect when the user does that`
`15:21.15`	`cladhaire`	`its a worldframe movement function`
`15:21.35`	`cncfanatics`	`WorldFrame:OnRightClick ?`
`15:21.42`	`cladhaire`	`shake`
`15:21.43`	`cncfanatics`	`OnClick 'RightButton' I mean`
`15:21.51`	`cladhaire`	`its going to be one of the StopMovingOrSizing functions`
`15:22.07`	`cncfanatics`	`i'll hook into all of them with some debug output`
`15:22.22`	`cladhaire`	`TurnOrActionStart() - Begin "Right Click" in the 3D world. (1.10 - Protected)`
`15:22.30`	`cladhaire`	`lemme test`
`15:22.54`	`CIA-17`	`03thisterhall * r13882 10XAD/ (5 files in 3 dirs): XAD - Fixed changed /xad quite to /xad quiet. Hopfully got the AQ20 mounts fixed once again. Fixed the Intbuffs plugin so it should load/work properly now. Fixed OptionalDeps in toc`
`15:23.09`	`axxo`	`aq20 mounts!`
`15:23.25`	`cncfanatics`	`aq40 mounts haha`
`15:23.38`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: Its neither of them, hrm`
`15:23.40`	`cladhaire`	`I'm not sure.`
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`15:24.13`	`Kalamadi`	`G'morning Maia`
`15:24.20`	`maia`	`g'evening`
`15:24.23`	`maia`	`;)`
`15:25.13`	`cncfanatics`	`WorldFrame:SetScript("OnClick", function() FlexBar2:Debug("CLICK"); end); does nothing at all :p`
`15:27.09`	`cncfanatics`	`TurnOrActionStart() gets called only when rightclicking without a button on ur cursor, damn`
`15:27.12`	`cladhaire`	`well it wouldn't be that easy`
`15:27.16`	`cladhaire`	`hehe`
`15:27.35`	`cladhaire`	`should be able to grep for the functiont hat drops the button from teh cursor.`
`15:27.36`	`cladhaire`	`and track it down`
`15:27.43`	`cncfanatics`	`how ?`
`15:28.52`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire, ur US ? cldnt u ask slouken on the forum eventualy ?`
`15:29.20`	`cladhaire`	`i could ask, but we have the stuff we need`
`15:29.36`	`grzesieq`	`hmm, i think i'll activate my account and prepare my char for BC`
`15:29.45`	`grzesieq`	`need to get a 300 crafting skill`
`15:30.17`	`cladhaire`	`hrm`
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`15:30.35`	`cladhaire`	`PutItemInBackpack does it`
`15:30.45`	`cladhaire`	`but htat's not what the default UI does`
`15:31.06`	`cncfanatics`	`clearcursor maybe, i'll check`
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`15:31.45`	`cncfanatics`	`ClearCursor() doesn't get called by the default UI either`
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`15:32.05`	`andreasg`	`I was just wondering why you need to detect all that stuff like when the user drops an action with the cursor`
`15:32.21`	`cncfanatics`	`for an actionbar mod`
`15:32.36`	`andreasg`	`yes, I know, but I made an actionbar mod and I didn't have to do all that`
`15:32.47`	`cncfanatics`	`yea, cuz you cld use UseAction directly in wow 1.12`
`15:32.51`	`cncfanatics`	`u can't anymore in TBC`
`15:33.05`	`andreasg`	`yes, I see, but how does one know what to cast then?`
`15:33.16`	`andreasg`	`or how do you program the buttons to cast things`
`15:33.19`	`cladhaire`	`you need to read the changes thread`
`15:33.22`	`cladhaire`	`or the xml =)`
`15:33.25`	`cladhaire`	`wdn.wowinterface.com`
`15:33.32`	`cladhaire`	`cause it'd take quite some time to explain how to do it :P`
`15:33.33`	`cncfanatics`	`I wonder, is there a way to look at the code blizz uses for UseAction ? wld help for sure`
`15:33.42`	`cladhaire`	`No, we don't have access to that.`
`15:34.42`	`grzesieq`	`what's this new LFG thing in BC all about?`
`15:34.52`	`cladhaire`	`its a LFG ui`
`15:34.55`	`cladhaire`	`pretty nice actually`
`15:35.00`	`cncfanatics`	`ye, seems usefull`
`15:35.22`	`grzesieq`	`anyone got pics?`
`15:35.39`	`cladhaire`	`I could take one if you want`
`15:35.42`	`cladhaire`	`but its nothing exciting.`
`15:35.55`	`grzesieq`	`please do so if you got a moment`
`15:36.36`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire, can u explain exactly how hooksecurefunc works ?`
`15:36.42`	`cncfanatics`	`I don't explain what I got to pass as first parameter`
`15:36.42`	`Ghent`	`morning all`
`15:36.46`	`cncfanatics`	`it just says table`
`15:36.49`	`cncfanatics`	`yo Ghent`
`15:37.38`	`Mery`	`cncfanatics: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=34224257&sid=1`
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`15:37.53`	`axxo`	`craywha`
`15:37.55`	`cladhaire`	`table is optional.`
`15:38.08`	`cncfanatics`	`still, it'd be usefull to know what it does :p`
`15:38.12`	`cladhaire`	`if you want to hook a functino, its just hooksecurefunc("FunctionName", functionHandler)`
`15:38.22`	`cncfanatics`	`ok`
`15:38.40`	`cncfanatics`	`i'm gonna make a loop with getfenv and hook into all functions of wow :p`
`15:38.50`	`cncfanatics`	`will come around it eventualy`
`15:39.21`	`cladhaire`	`yikes`
`15:39.22`	`cladhaire`	`heh`
`15:39.55`	`Saroz`	`I need a beta key for TBC plx`
`15:40.08`	`cncfanatics`	`300 bucks on ebay Saroz`
`15:40.42`	`andreasg`	`It's pretty stupid, I have stuff to fix and I want to get down dirty with it but I can't`
`15:40.45`	`cladhaire`	`http://imagelink.org/info/5405`
`15:40.59`	`cladhaire`	`http://imagelink.org/info/5406`
`15:41.12`	`cladhaire`	`youcan fix everything you need without havign a beta key`
`15:41.17`	`cladhaire`	`trust me =)`
`15:41.28`	`nevcairiel`	`but not actually _test_ and see :)`
`15:41.35`	`cladhaire`	`indeed`
`15:41.42`	`Saroz`	`mmm`
`15:41.43`	`cladhaire`	`we've been writing code we can't test`
`15:41.45`	`andreasg`	`yes, I need to see if things run as they should`
`15:41.49`	`cladhaire`	`working on the secure templates.. and half ot hem aren't even in the game`
`15:42.11`	`Mery`	`also if a group is set as LFG you'll see all group members in LFM`
`15:42.20`	`cladhaire`	`Mery: Yeah, thats a nice feature.`
`15:42.28`	`cncfanatics`	`http://ace.pastey.net/1547`
`15:42.34`	`cncfanatics`	`wld that work to hook all functions in wow cladhaire ?`
`15:42.41`	`cncfanatics`	`i'm not used to getfenv & hooksecurefunc`
`15:42.57`	`cladhaire`	`you dont want to do it like that`
`15:43.05`	`cladhaire`	`that creates an immense amount of closures.`
`15:43.29`	`cncfanatics`	`that doesn't do anything , just tested it`
`15:43.33`	`cladhaire`	`there's got to be a better way =)`
`15:43.58`	`cladhaire`	`you can't pass the functino handler`
`15:43.59`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: in what forum is that thread, I'd like to read up on how user addons can cast spells`
`15:44.00`	`cladhaire`	`just the name`
`15:44.01`	`cladhaire`	`right now.`
`15:44.08`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: The UI forums, sticky`
`15:44.19`	`cladhaire`	`I can answer most of your questions tho`
`15:44.21`	`cncfanatics`	`addons cant cast spells anymore`
`15:44.27`	`cncfanatics`	`u need to use secure templates`
`15:44.29`	`cladhaire`	`thats not true`
`15:44.30`	`cladhaire`	`AT all`
`15:44.31`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`15:44.50`	`cncfanatics`	`both CastSpellByName & UseAction are protected now :p`
`15:45.09`	`Saroz`	`I don't understand how things are gonna work in TBC, and I don't understand your click casting thread - but once I see my mod in TBC, I suspect it will only take a few hours to fix it`
`15:45.24`	`nevcairiel`	`Saroz: did you see my patch?`
`15:45.30`	`Saroz`	`no?`
`15:45.38`	`cladhaire`	`Saroz: Well, what are you trying to accomplish?`
`15:45.46`	`andreasg`	`I was just wondering what function you expect to use to cast spells with if UseAction doesn't work in a user action button addon`
`15:45.56`	`cladhaire`	`if you're not WRITING a click-casting addon.. you just need to make one change to make it "work".. and one minor overhaul to make things work properly`
`15:46.00`	`Saroz`	`cladhaire, the only problem for me, as I see it, it make clickcasting work on my raid frames`
`15:46.10`	`cladhaire`	`use CLique`
`15:46.12`	`cladhaire`	`or write your own`
`15:46.19`	`Mikma`	`clique is teh suck`
`15:46.26`	`Mikma`	`it's too easy it makes healers lazy!`
`15:46.34`	`Saroz`	`well, you still have to hook some kind of click handler to your frames`
`15:46.35`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: button:SetAttribute("type1", "spell"); button:SetAttribute("spell1", "Flash Heal")`
`15:46.37`	`Saroz`	`as I understand things`
`15:46.40`	`cladhaire`	`Saroz: No, you don't.`
`15:46.42`	`nevcairiel`	`Saroz: in the sRF thread`
`15:46.47`	`cladhaire`	`ClickCastFrames[frame] = true`
`15:47.04`	`cladhaire`	`and it works.`
`15:47.05`	`Saroz`	`hrrrmm`
`15:47.37`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: for k,v in pairs(getfenv(0)) do if type(v) == function() then hooksecurefunc(k, function() ChatFrame1:AddMessage(tostring(k)) end) end end`
`15:47.38`	`Saroz`	`ok, well, as I said, won't take long to fix it once I actually load the mod in TBC`
`15:47.57`	`cncfanatics`	`cheers :)`
`15:48.12`	`cladhaire`	`yeah but it doesn't hurt to understand whats going on before them`
`15:48.17`	`cncfanatics`	`is the 0 in getfenv required btw ? and what does it do ?`
`15:48.17`	`cladhaire`	`the FrameXML explains it all`
`15:48.23`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: Just grabs the global en`
`15:48.32`	`cncfanatics`	`difference with globalfenv() ?`
`15:49.05`	`cladhaire`	`In this case, no`
`15:49.08`	`cladhaire`	`I just specify it on purpose.`
`15:49.10`	`Saroz`	`nevcairiel: ah, didnt see that page`
`15:49.11`	`cladhaire`	`to be explicit`
`15:49.26`	`cncfanatics`	`u mean type(v) == "function" right ? not function()`
`15:49.33`	`cladhaire`	`yes`
`15:49.34`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`15:49.40`	`cncfanatics`	`:p`
`15:49.58`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: and that API setAttribute, I can read about it in that thread?`
`15:50.15`	`cncfanatics`	`ye,`
`15:50.27`	`cncfanatics`	`think the only limitation is that its out of combat only`
`15:50.39`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: Yes, but you really need to read the SecureTemplates.lua/xml`
`15:50.52`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: Correct, you have to queue any changed in combat`
`15:50.52`	`andreasg`	`ok`
`15:50.53`	`Worf`	`do you know if my pet attack shortcut might work or be possible to implement in TBC? (on target change event and some key being pressed send the pet in to attack the unit and then change back to the previous target)`
`15:51.06`	`cladhaire`	`with a minor exception`
`15:51.16`	`cladhaire`	`Worf: by macro, maybe.. you cannot do anything "automatically" in TBC`
`15:51.17`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: can you tell me if it will be possible to move unit frames on R_R_U? Like if a member leaves in combat`
`15:51.18`	`cladhaire`	`when in combat.`
`15:51.31`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: No, you'll need to use a secure Template that handles that for you`
`15:51.35`	`cladhaire`	`but the template is very robust`
`15:51.38`	`cladhaire`	`and saved you A LOT of code.`
`15:51.48`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire: how long do u think the loop u gave me shld take to exec ?`
`15:51.50`	`cladhaire`	`you just specify a "header".. and a filter for that header, and then anchoring rules (so you decide how it looks)`
`15:51.53`	`cladhaire`	`.`
`15:51.54`	`cncfanatics`	`TBC kinda stuck on loading screen`
`15:51.57`	`navv`	`you cannot move secure templates tho?`
`15:51.59`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: it happened less than a second for me.`
`15:52.05`	`cncfanatics`	`weird`
`15:52.05`	`cladhaire`	`navv: The templates can move themselves.`
`15:52.07`	`cladhaire`	`its a special template.`
`15:52.12`	`navv`	`hmm`
`15:52.13`	`cncfanatics`	`will kill tbc & then try again`
`15:52.24`	`navv`	`secure templates can move themselves in combat even ?`
`15:52.33`	`nevcairiel`	`not move themselves`
`15:52.33`	`cncfanatics`	`(it maybe took only 1sec cuz it didnt actualy hook anything ? as u used function()) ?`
`15:52.34`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: So for example, you create a header for "DRUID" and the code internally handles creating new frames and setting them up using a configuration functino you specify`
`15:52.35`	`navv`	`or well frames, derived from-`
`15:52.46`	`nevcairiel`	`but you can move them with mouse if you want :)`
`15:52.53`	`cladhaire`	`navv: There are special templates that allow two things, popup menus in comabt, and raid frames adjusting properly`
`15:53.01`	`navv`	`yeah`
`15:53.10`	`navv`	`but the raid header is somewhat well, limitive`
`15:53.11`	`Mikma`	`SS of the year coming up ;)`
`15:53.15`	`Worf`	`cladhaire: well - the point is: it's not automatic at all. press a button and klick a unit to let the pet attack is not automatic. but it requires quite some things that allow other "automatic" stuff`
`15:53.16`	`cladhaire`	`navv: Not in the least`
`15:53.25`	`navv`	`well how do you figure doing something like`
`15:53.29`	`navv`	`make a frame`
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`15:53.36`	`navv`	`that contains groups 1234 and classes xyz from those`
`15:53.37`	`[LS]Alizia`	`Meh.`
`15:53.37`	`navv`	`with that`
`15:53.47`	`[LS]Alizia`	`Ofcourse they had to let griefers into the beta..`
`15:53.48`	`cladhaire`	`You create a header for eadch of those filters, and anchor them to each other.`
`15:54.02`	`cladhaire`	`navv: The code it quite robust`
`15:54.13`	`cladhaire`	`Esamynn Iriel and Cide did a real solid job on it.`
`15:54.15`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: not sure I understand, currently I have function that executes on R_R_U that does SetPoint for all units so that they line up, how can the frames take care of that themselves you say?`
`15:54.19`	`Mikma`	`http://wow.reaktio.net/saycheese.jpg`
`15:54.22`	`navv`	`anchor them together well, yeah`
`15:54.24`	`navv`	`okay`
`15:54.28`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: Give me a moment.`
`15:54.39`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: thanks`
`15:54.46`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire: the loop locks up my WoW`
`15:55.00`	`cladhaire`	`http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2005991/FrameXML/SecureTemplates.luahttp://wdn.wowinterface.com/compare/2005991/live`
`15:55.03`	`cladhaire`	`err`
`15:55.04`	`cladhaire`	`http://wdn.wowinterface.com/compare/2005991/live`
`15:55.06`	`cladhaire`	`line 337`
`15:55.09`	`cladhaire`	`that's the raid header template.`
`15:55.23`	`navv`	`sadly tho, the sorting and such goes break`
`15:55.37`	`navv`	`since afaik there was only index and class? sorting`
`15:55.45`	`cladhaire`	`no`
`15:55.54`	`cladhaire`	`if you havent looked at the XML code, i'd appreciat eyou not being all doom and gloom =)`
`15:56.00`	`navv`	`i did look at it!`
`15:56.06`	`navv`	`but recollection from yesterday a bit hazy`
`15:56.22`	`cladhaire`	`you supply either a namelist, groupfilter, then anchoring and offset informatino, a sortmethod and a sort direction, along with an XML template.`
`15:56.30`	`cladhaire`	`it then creates frames under the header by your anchoring method, using your template`
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`15:56.41`	`Shinja`	`hi`
`15:56.50`	`cladhaire`	`and i believe a config functino, but that code is still in work i believe.`
`15:57.12`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire: can u check what function is called when rightclicking on the worldframe while an action is on ur cursor ?`
`15:57.16`	`cncfanatics`	`the loop locks up my comp`
`15:57.26`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: hrm, lemme try`
`15:57.34`	`cladhaire`	`it scrolls quickly with all the onupdates =)`
`15:57.44`	`cncfanatics`	`chatlog :p`
`15:57.45`	`cladhaire`	`i'll try not hooking onupdates first =)`
`15:57.49`	`navv`	`the sortmethod says index/name`
`15:57.58`	`navv`	`is that the parameters?`
`15:58.02`	`cncfanatics`	`well, I cant hook anything at all or read anything, tbc wont get out of loading screen`
`15:58.07`	`cladhaire`	`k`
`15:58.11`	`navv`	`"sortMethod = ["INDEX", "NAME"] -- defines how the group is sorted (Default: "INDEX")"`
`15:58.16`	`cladhaire`	`why are you at the loading screen?`
`15:58.21`	`cncfanatics`	`reloadui`
`15:58.24`	`cladhaire`	`navv: no, those are the options`
`15:58.25`	`cncfanatics`	`pops a loading screen too now ;)`
`15:58.27`	`cladhaire`	`by name, or by raid index.`
`15:58.34`	`cladhaire`	`i know.. but why are you reloading ui?`
`15:58.42`	`cladhaire`	`O.o?`
`15:58.44`	`cncfanatics`	`oh, u just typed it in chatframe ? :p`
`15:58.48`	`cladhaire`	`yes`
`15:58.49`	`cncfanatics`	`will try that haha`
`16:00.39`	`cladhaire`	`heh`
`16:01.11`	`andreasg`	`I've never understood the code blizzard makes`
`16:01.20`	`cladhaire`	`well they didnt write any of that`
`16:01.21`	`yacoob`	`andreasg, do not worry. They also don't.`
`16:01.23`	`cladhaire`	`heh`
`16:01.29`	`navv`	`cant say i see anywhere here where you can define how you make your own sort method :/`
`16:01.46`	`navv`	`apart from of course defining namelists, and sorting them in whatever order`
`16:01.47`	`andreasg`	`Just don't get why they can't allow frames to move once on RRU`
`16:01.51`	`cladhaire`	`You can't define a sort method.`
`16:01.56`	`cncfanatics`	`C stack overflow, and wow going hella slow :p`
`16:01.58`	`cladhaire`	`On purpose.`
`16:02.03`	`navv`	`but pretty sure you cannot change the contents of name lists in combat`
`16:02.04`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: Because its entirely exploitable.`
`16:02.12`	`cladhaire`	`navv: No you can't on purpose.`
`16:02.20`	`cladhaire`	`that doesn't make them any less powerful`
`16:02.20`	`navv`	`yeah`
`16:02.27`	`cladhaire`	`and there's nothing you can do now, that you can't do then`
`16:02.28`	`navv`	`well`
`16:02.29`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: How? I've talked it over with ckk and we couldn't see how it could be exploited`
`16:02.29`	`cladhaire`	`that is still allowed.`
`16:03.39`	`cladhaire`	`Because, you could write a mod that moves people over and over and over and over again (some rogue) and that would allow you to set things up for automation`
`16:03.42`	`Mery`	`invite kick one ranged dps to constantly get a RRU?`
`16:03.48`	`Mery`	`or just move lol ...`
`16:04.01`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: then just don't allow players to be moved without player interaction?`
`16:04.05`	`cladhaire`	`it was either this, or the system disallows raid configuration changes in combat.. which is a much bigger proble.`
`16:04.10`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: Promote players.`
`16:04.12`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: Players die,`
`16:04.15`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: PLayers zone`
`16:04.18`	`cladhaire`	`etc =)`
`16:04.20`	`cladhaire`	`they all cause RRU`
`16:04.25`	`cladhaire`	`its expliotable =)`
`16:04.38`	`andreasg`	`players dying and zoning doesn't RRU (as far as I can recall)`
`16:04.44`	`Saroz`	`indeed`
`16:04.53`	`cladhaire`	`again, there's nothing you're doing now that can't do under the new system`
`16:05.02`	`cladhaire`	`that is still allowed by the design`
`16:05.03`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`hmm, little q, how exactly do i change a "DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(msg);" so i sends the output to, let's say, the raid channel?^^`
`16:05.13`	`navv`	`that is still allowed by the design, yes`
`16:05.21`	`cladhaire`	`Moondrake[G5]: SendChatMessage(text "RAID")`
`16:05.26`	`Shinja`	`i'm begining an addon with candtbar`
`16:05.28`	`cladhaire`	`navv: That being the point`
`16:05.31`	`navv`	`yeah`
`16:05.44`	`navv`	`sadly, i cant see how i can get some of the functionality RDX unit frames has working in bc`
`16:05.48`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`clad, yeah i know, problem is the meaage is a variable`
`16:05.52`	`Mikma`	`i really feel like starting to code that DreamChat but i don't know how to do it :)`
`16:05.54`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`*message`
`16:06.05`	`Shinja`	`Mikma !`
`16:06.07`	`cladhaire`	`Moondrake[G5]: So pass it?, i'm not understanding.`
`16:06.16`	`cladhaire`	`navv: Well, like what specifically?`
`16:06.34`	`navv`	`well stuff like sorting + targeting is gone obviously, but thats prohibited by the template`
`16:06.34`	`cladhaire`	`cause if its allowed, i bet there's a away.. that's all the team has been doing for the past six weeks =/`
`16:06.42`	`Mikma`	`whaat?`
`16:06.45`	`Mikma`	`what did do do now?`
`16:06.51`	`Shinja`	`Mikma: any plan do enable / disable button tooltip in Bartender2 ?`
`16:06.59`	`Mikma`	`Shinja: already in`
`16:06.59`	`yacoob`	`been chosen :)`
`16:06.59`	`andreasg`	`ok, but the way I understand it, you create a bunch of secure anchors and raid frames, and then the frames will move themselves between the anchors?`
`16:07.05`	`Shinja`	`O_o`
`16:07.09`	`nevcairiel`	`hm`
`16:07.13`	`yacoob`	`http://www.churchofmoo.com/`
`16:07.20`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: Yes, that's correct`
`16:07.24`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r13883 10BigWigs/MC/Ragnaros.lua: BigWigs: Ragnaros: Fix event names.`
`16:07.32`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: You anchor the headers to each other, and define how the headers will anchor the frames inside.`
`16:07.35`	`navv`	`and there's some other stuff too`
`16:07.47`	`yacoob`	`so there's chance for emergency monitor? :)`
`16:07.58`	`cladhaire`	`Not an emergency monitor you can click on, no.`
`16:08.01`	`navv`	`mainly, the only way to "mix" classes/groups`
`16:08.09`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: I don't have to anchor the header to another header do I? I guess I am allowed to move them around outside combat`
`16:08.12`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire: is that fine as code ? /script for k,v in pairs(getfenv(0)) do if(type(v) == "function" and n ~= "tostring" and not string.find(n, ".Update.") then hooksecurefunc(k, function() ChatFrame1:AddMessage(tostring(k)) end); end end`
`16:08.13`	`navv`	`is create separate securetemplates that contain the units`
`16:08.15`	`cladhaire`	`navv: Correct, but how often does that happen?`
`16:08.20`	`navv`	`all the time`
`16:08.25`	`Mikma`	`goooo grid gooooooo!`
`16:08.31`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: You will want to anchor teh headers to each other in many cases (PR will for example)`
`16:08.31`	`navv`	`or well, ok all the time in rdx`
`16:08.42`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: yes`
`16:08.44`	`navv`	`since the freedom of configurability per unit window is there`
`16:08.53`	`cladhaire`	`yeah.. but they can't be configured WITHIN combat`
`16:09.00`	`navv`	`but even without combat`
`16:09.01`	`cladhaire`	`that's the only restriction on name based raid groupings.`
`16:09.08`	`cladhaire`	`without combat you can do anything you want.`
`16:09.15`	`navv`	`ok`
`16:09.29`	`navv`	`to get stuff like group changes etc to show`
`16:09.36`	`navv`	`i need to use secureraidheadertemplate yes?`
`16:09.38`	`navv`	`(in combat)`
`16:09.39`	`cladhaire`	`yes.`
`16:09.41`	`Shinja`	`Mikma: ok, my question wasn't good :) ... enable / disable button tooltip in Bartender2 per bar :o`
`16:09.47`	`cladhaire`	`which means you'll structure your addon around it.`
`16:09.49`	`andreasg`	`I did a filter that moved healers together, tanks together and DPS together, would that still be possible? =P`
`16:09.56`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: Yes`
`16:10.00`	`Mikma`	`Shinja: already in ;) it's all or nothing.`
`16:10.10`	`Shinja`	`yep`
`16:10.13`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: Even maintank frames are possible, as long as the units that are main tanks aren't changed in combat.`
`16:10.16`	`Shinja`	`0/1`
`16:10.19`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: Its easy actually =)`
`16:10.24`	`Shinja`	`need perhaps 0.5 :)`
`16:10.35`	`navv`	`now, secureraidheader template, while is decently flexible (lets you give the template for the unitframes inside, i guess), does not let you do that complex layouts. Thus, the onl way to get stuff like multiple columns is, to anchor one of those templated frames per column, yes?`
`16:10.38`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: the groupFilter thingy says "a raid group number or a class name"`
`16:10.47`	`andreasg`	`so how do I put in multiple class names?`
`16:10.49`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: You use multiple headers, and anchor them together`
`16:11.10`	`andreasg`	`ooook`
`16:11.14`	`cladhaire`	`if you want them all together, sorted by name then you'd need to use name filter.`
`16:11.29`	`navv`	`and, per each secureraidheader template, you will have a separate list of people, and a separate way of sorting, right?`
`16:11.33`	`Shinja`	`Is there a way (library?) to know duration of a skill (with depend of talent) ?`
`16:11.42`	`cladhaire`	`yes`
`16:11.47`	`cladhaire`	`and i'm working on getting the raidheaders more complex`
`16:11.53`	`Shinja`	`I would like to do a Slicerbar witj Candybar`
`16:11.54`	`navv`	`mmkay`
`16:12.10`	`navv`	`so it'll be col1 has stuff sorted by something, col2 again sorted by something etc`
`16:12.31`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: how do I tell a raid frame/anchor which way to sort themselves`
`16:12.34`	`navv`	`yeah, thats whats really breaking stuff, rdx-wide`
`16:12.35`	`navv`	`wise`
`16:12.39`	`andreasg`	`I see the configuration attributes`
`16:12.44`	`andreasg`	`but how do I set them`
`16:12.45`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: You set the attributes.`
`16:12.46`	`andreasg`	`and apply them`
`16:12.52`	`cladhaire`	`header:SetAttribute(name, value)`
`16:12.54`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r13884 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua: Bartender2: indents`
`16:13.08`	`navv`	`frame:SetAttribute("sortMethod", "INDEX\|NAME") or something`
`16:13.12`	`cladhaire`	`attributes are a way to pass untainted arguments to secure frames, thats why you see if everywhere..`
`16:13.30`	`cladhaire`	`int his case, header:SetAttribute("groupFilter", "DRUID")`
`16:13.50`	`navv`	`how are you trying to get them more complex?`
`16:14.27`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: lets say I have two anchors, I set one of them to group1 and the other one to DRUID, where will the druid unit in group1 anchor itself? :P`
`16:14.33`	`cladhaire`	`allowing groupFilter = "DRUID,ROGUE"`
`16:14.37`	`navv`	`ah`
`16:14.37`	`cladhaire`	`and letting those be sorted by name`
`16:14.48`	`navv`	`get them to allow groupfilter 1,2,3,4 too !`
`16:15.12`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: The frames within a header anchor themselvs within the header based on your attributes.. the external anchors are handled by you`
`16:15.36`	`nevcairiel`	`that sounds somewhat easy for raidframes`
`16:15.43`	`nevcairiel`	`that cannot be made by blizz`
`16:15.43`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`16:15.45`	`Saroz`	`\o/`
`16:15.47`	`cladhaire`	`Okay, I'm going to go rewrite the raidheader code.`
`16:15.57`	`cladhaire`	`see if i can get it approved`
`16:15.58`	`navv`	`well its not written by blizz`
`16:16.11`	`nevcairiel`	`thought so`
`16:16.11`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`16:16.12`	`Saroz`	`cladhaire, you talked to slouken?`
`16:16.23`	`mjc`	`I still have trouble believing they're being such dickweeds w/ 2.0`
`16:16.27`	`cladhaire`	`frequently, why?`
`16:16.42`	`Saroz`	`Just wondering, since you got all this info :)`
`16:17.14`	`cladhaire`	`there have been a few authors working directly with Blizzard on getting these things set up, thats'about all I can say`
`16:17.32`	`cladhaire`	`heh`
`16:18.34`	`navv`	`imo rewrite the code`
`16:18.40`	`cladhaire`	`what code?`
`16:18.42`	`navv`	`to allow a combination of group/classes :)`
`16:18.46`	`cladhaire`	`that's what i'm doing.`
`16:18.46`	`navv`	`groups/classes`
`16:18.48`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: i can't realize what was that update you made moment ago :D`
`16:18.49`	`navv`	`yea`
`16:18.52`	`cladhaire`	`and we'll see if I can get it in, no promises.`
`16:18.52`	`navv`	`that would be very very very nice`
`16:18.55`	`navv`	`yeah`
`16:19.03`	`navv`	`as far as i can see`
`16:19.10`	`navv`	`that's not really much of an exploit`
`16:19.12`	`nevcairiel`	`add a custom as well, where we can provide the raid ids we want in that group :D`
`16:19.18`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: not gonna happen =)`
`16:19.22`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: thats exploitable =)`
`16:19.23`	`navv`	`yeah, that wont happen heh`
`16:19.28`	`Saroz`	`hehe that sort of defeats the purpose :p`
`16:19.31`	`nevcairiel`	`even ooc only?`
`16:19.32`	`nevcairiel`	`:o`
`16:19.36`	`navv`	`ooc you can do whatever`
`16:19.40`	`nevcairiel`	`ah`
`16:19.43`	`nevcairiel`	`i missed that point`
`16:19.44`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`16:19.44`	`navv`	`nobody is preventing you to do stuff ooc`
`16:20.13`	`navv`	`but once you enter combat, things become static, unless you use secure templates`
`16:20.17`	`nevcairiel`	`i kinda liked the feature of CTRA where you could randomly reorder your raidgroup`
`16:20.24`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: so the headers create all the unit frames and such?`
`16:20.29`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: yes`
`16:20.34`	`cncfanatics`	`god damnit, a huge amount of stuff gets spammed by the UI all the time, anoying to get rid of it all`
`16:20.57`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: =)`
`16:21.14`	`Saroz`	`well it's comforting cladhaire is on top of things`
`16:21.24`	`cladhaire`	`I'm not, i'm just here for click-casting`
`16:21.25`	`cladhaire`	`heh`
`16:21.29`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`16:21.32`	`cladhaire`	`you should have seen that before i go0t here :`
`16:21.36`	`Saroz`	`which is key :)`
`16:21.47`	`cncfanatics`	`tell blizz to stop spamming funcs !`
`16:21.54`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: looks like that's going to be painful for my AceOO approach where I create objects that creates the frames`
`16:21.56`	`cladhaire`	`but i'm VERY happy with where we are.`
`16:22.07`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: YOu'll have to change the way you handel it, unfortunately`
`16:22.26`	`Mikma`	`http://wow.reaktio.net/ui.jpg`
`16:22.34`	`Mikma`	`this is from yesterday`
`16:22.43`	`cncfanatics`	`hehe, same, I also have objects that create frames`
`16:22.47`	`nevcairiel`	`i had some great ideas and motivation today to write a proof-of-concept for one raidframe idea i had, but with upcoming BC it would feel kinda pointless. but anyway, i need beta :D`
`16:22.51`	`cncfanatics`	`I'm having no issues with SecureActionButtonTemplate`
`16:22.57`	`andreasg`	`Looks like I need a complete rewrite, that's going to suck a lot`
`16:23.10`	`mjc`	`Mikma: busy screen much/`
`16:23.21`	`mjc`	`andreasg: :(`
`16:23.23`	`cncfanatics`	`oh, and btw cladhaire, does slouken now that the PaperDollFrame returns an error when reloading ui ?`
`16:23.31`	`Iceroth`	`uh, is dynamic frame creation gonna get nerfed?`
`16:23.31`	`andreasg`	`I like my OO approach and I don't see why I should be owned like that. I didn't exploit anything >.<`
`16:23.32`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: yeah`
`16:23.36`	`cladhaire`	`Iceroth: no`
`16:23.38`	`Saroz`	`my raid frames are fine \o/`
`16:23.51`	`Iceroth`	`then what's ag talking about?`
`16:24.01`	`andreasg`	`you can still create all the frames you want`
`16:24.07`	`Mikma`	`mjc: yeah :(`
`16:24.16`	`cladhaire`	`dynamic creation of raid frames when in combat have to be directed through a secure template.`
`16:24.28`	`Mikma`	`to be honest i don't need XRS anymore since i'm not interested of buffs anymore :D`
`16:24.31`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire, I have some small thing i'm wondering about`
`16:24.36`	`cncfanatics`	`supose I logout near some mobs`
`16:24.44`	`cncfanatics`	`and when I'm logged in I get in combat immediatly`
`16:24.52`	`cncfanatics`	`will addons that create frames OnLoad bug ?`
`16:24.57`	`cladhaire`	`there is a combat lockdown event.`
`16:25.03`	`cladhaire`	`tha thappens before the lockdown actually happens`
`16:25.15`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r13885 10sct_options/: sct_options: creating new folder so it will be in root`
`16:25.18`	`cladhaire`	`i think its just using PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED, but i dont remember offhand.`
`16:25.21`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah, the "old" regen disabled event was moved before combat or?`
`16:25.37`	`nevcairiel`	`before lockdown*`
`16:25.37`	`maia`	`cladhaire: I've read though SecureTemplates.lua some hours ago, and the problem I ended up with are: a) no optional display of pets inside a frame, and b) its limited to raids. This would result in quite a lot of code duplication when writing unit frames that should also work in parties.`
`16:26.11`	`cladhaire`	`maia: There is a template to handle the first, and the second is an issue, yes.`
`16:26.29`	`cladhaire`	`but I dont see a creative way around it.`
`16:26.35`	`andreasg`	`why differentiate between raid units and party units`
`16:26.45`	`Mikma`	`oh lookie it's maia`
`16:27.00`	`maia`	`oh, and c) there's no easy way to fill a grid of units, e.g. a 8x5 grid, all tanks first (no matter if 3 or 6), then all healers next. any frame can either be a column or a row, but not both - right?`
`16:27.23`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: Because the trouble necessary to code the same templates isn't worth the five frames that get created, I suspect, but I don't presume to know.`
`16:27.47`	`cladhaire`	`c.) No, you can't make intelligent anchoring decisions like that with this sytem`
`16:27.52`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r13887 10sctd/: sctd: creating new folder so it will be in root`
`16:27.59`	`maia`	`cladhaire: I assume the SecurePartyFrameHeader isnt available yet`
`16:28.13`	`Shinja`	`Is there a way (library?) to know duration of a skill (with depend of talent) ?`
`16:28.14`	`mjc`	`cladhaire: this blows :(`
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`16:28.20`	`cladhaire`	`maia: Nor do I suspect it will be?`
`16:28.21`	`cladhaire`	`mjc: hrm?`
`16:28.32`	`mjc`	`cladhaire: the whole 2.0.0 deal`
`16:28.38`	`maia`	`cladhaire: it's not really 'intelligent' to make sure you don't end up with e.g. 16 warriors in a long row in AV, breaking your entire layout`
`16:28.41`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r13888 10sctd/ (10 files): sctd: adding files for root move.`
`16:28.46`	`mjc`	`gain incremental gc, lose... everything?`
`16:28.49`	`mjc`	`:p`
`16:28.51`	`cladhaire`	`maia: I don't know what to tell you`
`16:28.54`	`cladhaire`	`mjc: Talk to the designers.`
`16:28.58`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
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`16:29.14`	`Kalamadi`	`It's, like. Blizzard broke our legs, and is telling us to move. Sure, we can get crutches or a wheelchair, but it's not as good as having legs.`
`16:29.18`	`mjc`	`cladhaire: not like they really listen to anyone's complaints`
`16:29.32`	`andreasg`	`Actually it's not that often players leave/join inside combat, maybe I am just going to handle players leaving/joining after combat is over. Because I like the way my addon works atm, with AceOO and stuff like that`
`16:29.34`	`cladhaire`	`I'm not here to have those conversations, TBH =)`
`16:29.41`	`cladhaire`	`if you have actual questions, i'm more than happy to answer`
`16:29.49`	`maia`	`cladhaire: and there's no SecureRaidPetFrame yet either`
`16:29.50`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: You can do that easily`
`16:29.55`	`cladhaire`	`maia: There doesn't need to be.`
`16:30.00`	`maia`	`no?`
`16:30.02`	`cladhaire`	`no`
`16:30.02`	`Kalamadi`	`andreasg: Queue up a list of roster changes which occur during combat, then hitch the changing functions on combat ending`
`16:30.16`	`mjc`	`Kalamadi: lame :(`
`16:30.33`	`andreasg`	`anyway it's going to be a problem if a player changes his raidid while in combat`
`16:30.38`	`Kalamadi`	`Feh, it's not that bad; I could probably do it, and I started programming in LUA three days ago.`
`16:30.47`	`cladhaire`	`maia: I just can't say more about it.. suffice it to say there's a reason we're in beta.`
`16:30.50`	`mjc`	`not complicated`
`16:30.52`	`mjc`	`just lame`
`16:30.56`	`cladhaire`	`i do it now in clique`
`16:31.05`	`cladhaire`	`since i dont have the code i need.`
`16:31.07`	`maia`	`cladhaire: well, I currently see no possibility to add pets in the SecureRaidFrame`
`16:31.12`	`cladhaire`	`i queue click-casting changes, or new raid frames until outside of combat.`
`16:31.14`	`cladhaire`	`maia: there isn't.`
`16:31.16`	`cladhaire`	`maia: Have faith`
`16:31.40`	`maia`	`okay, so I'm going to write an emergency monitor just for pets (I'm kidding)`
`16:31.42`	`Kalamadi`	`cladhaire: That's reserved for paladins and priests.`
`16:31.49`	`cladhaire`	`you won't be able ot.`
`16:31.59`	`yacoob`	`maia, 8x5 grid of 2x2 boxes? :DD`
`16:32.04`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r13891 10/trunk/ (SCT/ sct/): sct: renamed to lowercase`
`16:32.17`	`maia`	`cladhaire: well, but the SecureRaidFrame when sorted by subgroup won't allow to e.g. show the hunter pet right below the hunter, right?`
`16:32.19`	`yacoob`	`or, for truly skilled - 1x1 boxes`
`16:32.23`	`haste`	`can you change alpha on frames in combat? (haven't seen anything against it)`
`16:32.33`	`cladhaire`	`yes`
`16:32.36`	`cladhaire`	`well`
`16:32.37`	`cladhaire`	`i'm not sure.`
`16:32.38`	`maia`	`so I guess we'd need to have a new frame for raidpets, anchored somewhere else (outside the raid unit layout)`
`16:32.39`	`Kalamadi`	`yacoob: GridNinjaFrames.`
`16:32.48`	`maia`	`pets are your friends!`
`16:33.20`	`nevcairiel`	`no one heals pets :<`
`16:33.25`	`Worf`	`i do!`
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`16:34.02`	`yacoob`	`Kalamadi, NinjaHeal, addon that lets you heal with hand (well, mouse) gestures`
`16:34.02`	`maia`	`cladhaire: well, it would help to pass a boolean when creating these secure raid frames to include pets (when sorting by subgroup), and also if groupFilter would allow "PET" too.`
`16:34.09`	`Worf`	`hmm... just did read a lot about this focus thing for TBC, it actually sounds somewhat like the dual target mode of CC_Target ...`
`16:34.19`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire: functions that get called are: ActionButton_HideGrid() (LOTS of times, over 120, rather not use that), GetBonusBarOffset() (20ish times), StaticPopup_Hide() (2 times) and CursorCanGoInSlot() (50ish times)`
`16:34.22`	`cncfanatics`	`what to use ?`
`16:34.31`	`yacoob`	`7s of frantical waving and... yes, greater heal lands on tank, you gain +3 knots on the mouse cable`
`16:34.35`	`cncfanatics`	`no specific func only called once when rightclicking while u got an action on ur cursor`
`16:34.46`	`Kalamadi`	`yacoob: Right now, I heal in raids with one hand. The other hand is free to kill innocent passers-by.`
`16:34.48`	`cladhaire`	`none i suspect`
`16:34.51`	`cladhaire`	`i bet its handled C side.`
`16:35.10`	`cncfanatics`	`then I got a problem ? -.-`
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`16:35.23`	`andreasg`	`I wouldn't mind using the anchor system, but I don't like how they create the unit frames, IMO they should only use frames available`
`16:35.37`	`andreasg`	`so I can keep creating the frames myself`
`16:35.47`	`yacoob`	`Kalamadi, impressive. Most impressive.`
`16:35.48`	`yacoob`	`g`
`16:36.03`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: .. it does`
`16:36.07`	`cladhaire`	`it doens't just create a new one.`
`16:36.11`	`cladhaire`	`its a frame pool`
`16:36.20`	`cladhaire`	`per header`
`16:36.43`	`yacoob`	`btw, what CANNOT be done in combat with protected frames?`
`16:36.44`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire: CursorCanGoInSlot() doesn't get called when moving buttons around`
`16:36.50`	`cncfanatics`	`weird`
`16:36.57`	`yacoob`	`(or what CAN be done, which list is shorter :)`
`16:37.04`	`cladhaire`	`yacoob: neither list is short.`
`16:37.14`	`andreasg`	`but I need to bind each frame to an OO object+unitid`
`16:37.21`	`maia`	`cladhaire: do you want me to ask slouken regarding pet support inside SecureRaidFrame, or will you keep it in mind when talking to him?`
`16:37.35`	`yacoob`	`cladhaire, because I was wondering whether you can hide such frame`
`16:37.48`	`nevcairiel`	`you cannot hide iirc`
`16:37.52`	`cladhaire`	`maia: You can post ont he forums about it.`
`16:37.52`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r13894 10sct/ (40 files in 13 dirs): sct: Importing to root`
`16:37.54`	`yacoob`	`aw.`
`16:37.56`	`cladhaire`	`yacoob: You cannot directly hide frames`
`16:38.55`	`Kalamadi`	`cladhaire: You can sneak up on one and stuff it in a burlap sack, though`
`16:39.22`	`mjc`	`hahaha`
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`16:40.10`	`maia`	`cladhaire: okay. another question: I assume SecureActionButton is bound to a specific button - and this button usually is a specific unit name. I guess it also allows binding stuff to e.g. target or targettarget? Becuase I'm wondering if there's a way to cast on the mouseover unit (I can hover the mouse over a frame or unit in the 3d world and then press a key on the keyboard to choose a spell) - which would help a lot as I can move the`
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`16:41.01`	`cladhaire`	`maia: Cannot cast over the mouseover unit at this time, but you can keybind things to the mouseover unit. There is also no way using a single button to bind to more than one unit`
`16:41.18`	`Mikma`	`does this mean Grid is near alpha soon? :)`
`16:41.39`	`maia`	`cladhaire: well as long as I can keybind spells to the mouseover unit, it helps a lot.`
`16:41.46`	`CIA-17`	`03jncl 07Jncl * r13896 10oSkin/: oSkin: Removing branch`
`16:41.50`	`maia`	`Mikma: not really. give us a few more days`
`16:41.59`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire: do u think ActionButton_HideGrid wld be a good function to hook for what I need ?`
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`16:42.05`	`Mikma`	`maia: i will give you weeks if that's needed :)`
`16:42.19`	`Mikma`	`after all i can't rush you in anything`
`16:42.26`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire: ShowGrid seems to trigger when u start dragging a button, and HideGrid when u stop dragging it`
`16:43.02`	`haste`	`guess what the function does`
`16:43.11`	`Mikma`	`a question. is it possible to use chats without the ChatFrameX's ?`
`16:43.15`	`cncfanatics`	`show the grid with buttonnumber or hide it`
`16:43.19`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`oh i'm such a noob, still trying to post my message^^ if i change it to SendChatMessage() i get kicked from server, could some one look at this code: http://pastey.net/1549 and tell me how i could change it so it sends the output to party channel?`
`16:43.24`	`cncfanatics`	`never seen it trigger except with dragging, haste`
`16:43.25`	`Mikma`	`like paste a text to frame or so`
`16:43.33`	`haste`	`cncfanatics: open your spellbook`
`16:43.49`	`cncfanatics`	`ToggleSpellBook opens ur spellbook`
`16:44.05`	`haste`	`it should trigger then also afaik`
`16:44.28`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r13897 10sct/libs/ (. Ace2/): sct: still fixing libs`
`16:44.32`	`cncfanatics`	`it does idd, damnit`
`16:45.53`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r13898 10sct/libs/Ace2/: sct: adding Ace2 libs`
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`16:47.22`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`any1?`
`16:48.25`	`cncfanatics`	`SendChatMessage("blablabla", "RAID");`
`16:48.47`	`cncfanatics`	`CursorCanGoInSlot(); anyone knows exactly when that gets called ?`
`16:48.51`	`Mikma`	`Moondrake[G5]: so /script Moon_Print("foobar") should print foobar in chat`
`16:50.36`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r13899 10sct/sct.toc.bak: sct: removed bad file`
`16:50.48`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`cnc: done that result i get "msg" posted in raid, but i want the whole output of the mod^^`
`16:51.10`	`evl`	`http://worldofraids.free.fr/bc/Blacksmithing/Weaponsmith/swordsmith/lionheartblade.jpg`
`16:51.47`	`cncfanatics`	`SendChatMessage(msg, "RAID");`
`16:51.57`	`cncfanatics`	`msg without quotes shld normaly work`
`16:52.00`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`cnc: kicks me from server`
`16:52.08`	`cncfanatics`	`means ur output is too big`
`16:52.08`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`everytime`
`16:52.18`	`cncfanatics`	`how much lines are u trying to output that way ?`
`16:52.22`	`Mikma`	`evl: holy motherfuck`
`16:52.27`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`2 lines to try`
`16:53.15`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire: i'm going to use cursorcangoinslot for now, if you come along a better function please tell me`
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`16:56.25`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire, still here ?`
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`17:00.26`	`andreasg`	`What template should I use if I just want to have my units works just as they did before (except for that they can't move in combat) but I want them to be able to target units and stuff like that`
`17:00.48`	`cladhaire`	`yes`
`17:00.49`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: SecureUnitButtonTemplate`
`17:00.54`	`andreasg`	`ok`
`17:01.15`	`cncfanatics`	`couldn't find a suitable function that gets called once for registering & unregistering the action, got an idea what to do ?`
`17:01.19`	`cladhaire`	`then SetAttribute("unit", unitID)`
`17:01.25`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: no idea atm`
`17:01.36`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: actionubttons are somehwat outside of mys cope.. posting on the forums may help`
`17:01.44`	`cncfanatics`	`can't access US forums`
`17:01.49`	`cncfanatics`	`any way I could talk to slouken directly ?`
`17:02.13`	`cladhaire`	`not that i know of.`
`17:02.18`	`cladhaire`	`no one has that right =)`
`17:02.26`	`cncfanatics`	`haha, kay :p`
`17:02.37`	`cladhaire`	`someone els emay be able to answer your question shrug`
`17:02.48`	`cncfanatics`	`doubt it`
`17:03.10`	`cncfanatics`	`anyway, could you post on the 2.0.0 changes thread for me and ask how it can be done ?`
`17:04.24`	`cladhaire`	`If you pastey a message for me, i will post it`
`17:04.51`	`cncfanatics`	`ok`
`17:05.07`	`vhaarr`	`\|for i, v in ipairs(var) do; var[i] = ...; end;\| will no longer work?`
`17:05.19`	`nevcairiel`	`not?`
`17:05.27`	`vhaarr`	`do I have to use this \|select(i, ...) = ...;\| thing?`
`17:05.35`	`nevcairiel`	`for i,v in var will no longer work`
`17:05.42`	`nevcairiel`	`but pairs and ipairs should iirc`
`17:05.47`	`vhaarr`	`nevcairiel: What I'm concerned about is the var[i] part.`
`17:05.52`	`nevcairiel`	`hrm`
`17:06.00`	`nevcairiel`	`why shouldnt it?`
`17:06.18`	`vhaarr`	`I just remember seeing something about select(..)`
`17:06.32`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: you busy in neart future?`
`17:06.41`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: depends how near`
`17:06.47`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: now ->`
`17:06.51`	`nevcairiel`	`i have university monday morning`
`17:06.52`	`nevcairiel`	`:p`
`17:06.58`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire: With the default blizz UI you can click a button while you have an action on your cursor and then the action on your cursor and the one on the mouse will switch, thats currently done in live by doing UseAction(number, 1); how will we be able to do that in addons in the burning crusade ?`
`17:07.11`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: and i'm starting my new school on monday too`
`17:07.36`	`nevcairiel`	`so whatsup?`
`17:08.26`	`nevcairiel`	`i am still thinking about writing a simple proof-of-concept dynamic raidframe, but still pointless with bc coming up :/`
`17:08.31`	`maia`	`cladhaire: Is there an event that is triggered after RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE and after all frames are created/positioned, or shall we delay our logic a bit to update the new frames?`
`17:09.25`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2571 <- this up`
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`17:10.37`	`nevcairiel`	`the idea looks great`
`17:10.49`	`nevcairiel`	`so only one line until you expand?`
`17:10.53`	`Mikma`	`did ya check out the picture down on the thread?`
`17:11.10`	`nevcairiel`	`the one you quoted?`
`17:11.14`	`nevcairiel`	`i like the style`
`17:11.21`	`Mikma`	`yeah same`
`17:11.38`	`Mikma`	`so i was starting to wonder how hard would that be to do after all`
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`17:11.51`	`Mikma`	`obviously it can't use the normal ChatFrame`
`17:12.14`	`nevcairiel`	`why not ?`
`17:12.18`	`nevcairiel`	`hm well`
`17:12.22`	`Mikma`	`there might not be enough of them`
`17:12.33`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah`
`17:12.37`	`nevcairiel`	`that could be a issue`
`17:12.37`	`Mikma`	`sairen has nice quitmessage`
`17:12.53`	`Mikma`	`so. BattleChat and EavesDrop use a clever way`
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`17:13.14`	`nevcairiel`	`ive never used either`
`17:13.33`	`Mikma`	`well they both make a new frame where they paste the combat-texts`
`17:13.54`	`Ghent`	`sooo bored`
`17:13.57`	`nevcairiel`	`i wonder how you do mouse scrolling`
`17:14.02`	`cladhaire`	`anyone on Hellfire at the moment?`
`17:14.35`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: well let's have a look at the sources`
`17:14.49`	`nevcairiel`	`is there a generic handler for like all chat-type messages? system messages and all?`
`17:15.00`	`nevcairiel`	`or would you have to hook the AddMessage ?`
`17:15.10`	`cncfanatics`	`i'm in hellfire peninsula, why cladhaire ?`
`17:15.17`	`cncfanatics`	`(did u see the message for posting btw ?)`
`17:15.20`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: there's a function in BattleChat to use MouseScroll`
`17:16.09`	`Mikma`	`self.frame:EnableMouseWheel(true)`
`17:16.13`	`Mikma`	`self.frame:SetScript('OnMouseWheel', function()`
`17:16.16`	`Mikma`	`.. end ;)`
`17:16.48`	`Worf`	`is there some EU Embassy in the US Forums? :)`
`17:17.01`	`Worf`	`because i feel locked out of the TBC discussions there :)`
`17:17.31`	`nevcairiel`	`cladhaire is our embassador :)`
`17:17.35`	`Worf`	`oh`
`17:17.39`	`Cairenn`	`<== too`
`17:17.56`	`Mikma`	`yeah lol`
`17:17.58`	`nevcairiel`	`and Cairenn, of course :)`
`17:17.59`	`Cairenn`	`you're always welcome to PM me either here or on WoWI and I will post for you`
`17:18.02`	`Mikma`	`we got agents in US`
`17:18.08`	`Worf`	`i wonder if some embassador could take my concerns there :)`
`17:19.03`	`Cairenn`	`I am NOT in the US, thank you very kindly!`
`17:19.07`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: basicly we could use the code blizzard uses for their chatframes`
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`17:19.47`	`Mikma`	`Cairenn: well still i'll call you an US agent ;)`
`17:19.55`	`andreasg`	`gief ckknight`
`17:20.17`	`nevcairiel`	`where you from Cairenn? canada ?`
`17:20.23`	`Cairenn`	`aye`
`17:20.40`	`Mikma`	`Cairenn: oh oh, do you know terrence and phillip?`
`17:20.49`	`Cairenn`	`Mikma: lol`
`17:20.50`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`17:21.18`	`nevcairiel`	`i didnt get that one :(`
`17:22.05`	`nevcairiel`	`hm, googe reveals, i should watch southpark`
`17:22.16`	`nevcairiel`	`s/googe/google/`
`17:22.17`	`Ghent`	`I miss living in Calgary`
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`17:23.41`	`nevcairiel`	`so after looking at the sources a bit`
`17:23.48`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: its possible, but not that easy`
`17:24.09`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: yeah it's very much possible and simple to get it to look like that`
`17:24.31`	`nevcairiel`	`looks is always easy, if you got a feeling for it`
`17:24.51`	`nevcairiel`	`but functionality is a bitch :)`
`17:25.05`	`yacoob`	`:/`
`17:25.22`	`yacoob`	`kc_items barfs on mouseovering [Shadowcraft bracers]`
`17:25.39`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: well i've been playing around with Popsicle alot lately and have got a nice feeling about it. but still there's some things i'm not sure`
`17:26.43`	`nevcairiel`	`you could design the frames like that easy, possibly even using the default chat frames`
`17:26.47`	`nevcairiel`	`dunno if you really need more then 7`
`17:26.54`	`Mikma`	`well propably no`
`17:27.26`	`nevcairiel`	`if you need more, you could create one which has the same functions i guess`
`17:27.44`	`yacoob`	`with merged mode tooltip, in splitted it works fine.`
`17:27.47`	`Mikma`	`well lets think.`
`17:27.57`	`Mikma`	`1 for general, 1 for normal combatlog`
`17:27.58`	`nevcairiel`	`there is a chatframe template, no idea what happens if you create a ChatFrame8 from a addon`
`17:28.09`	`Mikma`	`that would leave 5 ChatFrames free`
`17:28.28`	`Mikma`	`wth`
`17:28.29`	`Mikma`	`http://ace.agamemnon.net/wowace/trunk/BattleChat/BattleChat.lua`
`17:28.31`	`nevcairiel`	`one guild, one raid, one whisper`
`17:28.42`	`Mikma`	`why am i getting address like that?`
`17:28.51`	`nevcairiel`	`no idea`
`17:28.54`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r13901 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: Ace2 - Not using UnitName("target")... it was Kael's stupid idea anyway`
`17:29.17`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r13902 10sctd_options/localization.tw.lua: sctd: commit for 2.1`
`17:29.21`	`Mikma`	`lawl.. svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk -> ace.agamemnon.net/wowace/trunk/`
`17:29.25`	`Industrial`	`Grayhoof here?`
`17:29.27`	`Industrial`	`no, aw :(`
`17:29.28`	`Ghent`	`lol`
`17:29.32`	`Ghent`	`nice commit msg :P`
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`17:30.06`	`Mikma`	`anyone else gets that same address? :)`
`17:30.07`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`will the new sct file folders work on winaceupdater?`
`17:30.12`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: multiple tabs on the "main" chatframe1, thoughts?`
`17:30.35`	`nevcairiel`	`[FH]Birdemani: you prolly have to remove and add sct on the winaceupdater again`
`17:30.58`	`Mikma`	`http://homepage.usask.ca/~rss050/wowpics/mockup1.jpg`
`17:31.01`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r13903 10sctd/ (localization.tw.lua readme.txt sctd.lua sctd.toc): sctd: Cleaned up options page by using tabs buttons. Added totem and summoned pet damage and cleaned up pet code. Added crushing and glancing blows.`
`17:31.06`	`Mikma`	`you mean this "Other stuff" or what?`
`17:31.36`	`nevcairiel`	`well, there still needs to be one main-chatframe`
`17:31.38`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r13904 10sct/ (11 files in 2 dirs): sct: Added glancing and crushing indicators. Added outgoing HOT flag. Added Emblem font. Fixed slider edit box bug.`
`17:31.41`	`nevcairiel`	`which is DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME`
`17:31.52`	`nevcairiel`	`and which is the one which can have tabs`
`17:32.00`	`nevcairiel`	`blizzard only allows chatframe1 to have tabs`
`17:32.01`	`nevcairiel`	`iirc`
`17:32.12`	`Mikma`	`hmm`
`17:32.15`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: Could you add ForAllIndentsAndPurposes to the Clique TOC?`
`17:32.20`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: As a OptionalDep.`
`17:32.44`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: Alternatively, would you mind me doing it?`
`17:32.59`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`mikma: whats that proof of concept for?`
`17:33.08`	`Mikma`	`[FH]Birdemani: "DreamChat"`
`17:33.24`	`Mikma`	`and it's not POC, it's mockup ;)`
`17:33.30`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`interesting, can you fully disable the default chat window and use that?`
`17:33.46`	`nevcairiel`	`the current plan is to use the default chat windows and change their skin.`
`17:33.51`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`nice`
`17:34.03`	`nevcairiel`	`but the current plan is one minute old`
`17:34.04`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: i was thinking. can the normal chat have borders in it?`
`17:34.06`	`nevcairiel`	`so no idea`
`17:34.07`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`17:34.15`	`nevcairiel`	`define borders`
`17:34.23`	`Mikma`	`http://homepage.usask.ca/~rss050/wowpics/mockup1.jpg`
`17:34.24`	`Mikma`	`lol`
`17:34.35`	`nevcairiel`	`the window borders?`
`17:34.36`	`nevcairiel`	`why not`
`17:35.02`	`Industrial`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2252.msg52466#msg52466`
`17:35.52`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`mikma: looks great and cant wait to test it out. will it be scalable as one window and then scale the internal chat windows?`
`17:36.06`	`Mikma`	`[FH]Birdemani: it only exists in our minds at the moment :)`
`17:36.20`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`:p`
`17:36.21`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: it even has a border, only not that bold`
`17:36.56`	`restored`	`Mikma: beautiful chat frames.. make them ahppen :P`
`17:37.38`	`Mikma`	`i'll go tinypadding for a moment to test out the stuff`
`17:37.51`	`cladhaire`	`vhaarr: No,k i want it packaged as is, thanks.`
`17:38.18`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: But FAIAP is distributed on WoWI as a separate addon called ForAllIndentsAndPurposes.`
`17:38.18`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire: I think I found a way to do what I said`
`17:38.34`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: I don't see how adding it as an OptionalDep stops your from distributing it in libs/.`
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`17:40.01`	`cladhaire`	`vhaarr: I'd prefer it stays as is, thanks.`
`17:42.28`	`vhaarr`	`Fine, I'll just do it locally.`
`17:42.43`	`cladhaire`	`Why is it an issue?`
`17:42.46`	`Mikma`	`well what's the problem with FAIAP?`
`17:42.59`	`cladhaire`	`whats the drama?`
`17:43.17`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: you and your addons!!!11oneone`
`17:43.30`	`cladhaire`	`ain't that the truth`
`17:44.03`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: were you able to change the border?`
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`17:45.19`	`PProvost`	`Morning all`
`17:45.29`	`Ghent`	`morning PProvost`
`17:45.56`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: i think i did it hehe`
`17:46.30`	`nevcairiel`	`what did you do?`
`17:47.25`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: http://ace.pastey.net/1550`
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`17:48.33`	`nevcairiel`	`the border is inside the box`
`17:48.37`	`Mikma`	`yeah`
`17:48.42`	`nevcairiel`	`there is some weird frame outside that`
`17:48.46`	`nevcairiel`	`but cant find it`
`17:48.49`	`Mikma`	`that's why i need to adjust the values`
`17:50.07`	`grzesieq`	`anyone else noticed that aguf frames are above oskinned interface options?`
`17:51.54`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: {left = -2, right = -2, top = -3, bottom = -7}`
`17:52.09`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: those make the box to be sized correctly but the borders are still a problem`
`17:53.10`	`nevcairiel`	`i cant find the part where the actual frames are setup`
`17:53.15`	`nevcairiel`	`doesnt seem to be in the files`
`17:53.36`	`Mikma`	`in blizzard framexml?`
`17:53.40`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`17:53.55`	`Mikma`	`FloatingChatFrame.* and ChatFrame.* ?`
`17:54.16`	`nevcairiel`	`looking`
`17:54.21`	`nevcairiel`	`but i seem to miss something :)`
`17:54.51`	`Mikma`	`i'll have a look soon too`
`17:55.23`	`Mikma`	`i'm trying to figure out the damn borders :D`
`17:58.38`	`nevcairiel`	`ha!`
`17:58.50`	`nevcairiel`	`change the texture of ChatFrame1Background`
`17:59.25`	`nevcairiel`	`or .. sec`
`18:01.05`	`Mikma`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:01.06`	`Mikma`	`hmm`
`18:01.21`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`18:01.48`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: you can change that texture, you need to change all ChatFrameXResize<region>Texture`
`18:03.12`	`nevcairiel`	`you only need some bold black texture`
`18:04.14`	`nevcairiel`	`plus you can SetVertexColor on it`
`18:05.29`	`Mikma`	`hmm`
`18:05.48`	`Mikma`	`what's the existing name for the border?`
`18:05.59`	`phyber`	`this ClosetGnome is cool. glad somebody found him.`
`18:06.11`	`nevcairiel`	`existing name?`
`18:06.23`	`Mikma`	`yeah the existing name for the border`
`18:06.29`	`nevcairiel`	`ChatFrame1ResizeTopTexture, for example`
`18:07.02`	`Mikma`	`right`
`18:07.09`	`Mikma`	`that's good and can be abused`
`18:07.23`	`nevcairiel`	`you only need to get all 8 textures and change them`
`18:07.25`	`nevcairiel`	`so you have a new border`
`18:07.48`	`Mikma`	`i think i found them moment ago by accident :D`
`18:08.00`	`Mikma`	`yeah`
`18:08.03`	`Mikma`	`FloatingChatFrame.lua`
`18:08.07`	`Mikma`	`at the start`
`18:08.20`	`nevcairiel`	`ah.`
`18:08.24`	`nevcairiel`	`i didnt see that array`
`18:08.26`	`nevcairiel`	`cool :D`
`18:08.49`	`Mikma`	`yeah but the problem is it has Background in it`
`18:08.59`	`nevcairiel`	`just skip it :)`
`18:09.15`	`nevcairiel`	`or copy paste it`
`18:09.18`	`Mikma`	`hehe`
`18:09.19`	`nevcairiel`	`and remove background`
`18:09.28`	`nevcairiel`	`no need to really use their array`
`18:09.43`	`nevcairiel`	`hrm i am using array again, why does lua call it table anyway`
`18:09.47`	`Mikk`	`so... gfx anyone? =)`
`18:09.56`	`Mikk`	`frames? icons? buttons?`
`18:10.13`	`kergoth`	`yay inkscape`
`18:10.27`	`nevcairiel`	`Interface\ChatFrame\ChatFrameBorder, but more border, less space around, please`
`18:10.28`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`18:11.34`	`Mikma`	`pimp!`
`18:11.49`	`Mikk`	`no gimp!`
`18:12.07`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: http://ace.pastey.net/1551`
`18:12.24`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah i tried setvertexcolor`
`18:12.34`	`nevcairiel`	`but the border texture is too thin`
`18:12.47`	`Mikma`	`welli wonder how can i change that one :P`
`18:13.00`	`nevcairiel`	`get mikk todo a new border :P`
`18:13.11`	`Mikma`	`and i wan't the edges to be sharp not rounded`
`18:13.33`	`kergoth`	`mjc: heh, i created this char to sit at the ah and make money with him, but i liked leveling him so much, i kept doing it..`
`18:13.38`	`kergoth`	`now i need to create a new ah mule`
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`18:13.46`	`Mikk`	`hehehee`
`18:13.50`	`Mikk`	`yeah that's happened to me too =)`
`18:13.55`	`mjc`	`kergoth: haha`
`18:13.58`	`mjc`	`mine also`
`18:14.03`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: i think the tex-coords do that, play with those :)`
`18:14.28`	`nevcairiel`	`i need a mpq extractor :x`
`18:14.31`	`Mikk`	`I have one`
`18:14.38`	`Mikk`	`winmpq`
`18:14.40`	`Mikma`	`~framexml`
`18:14.41`	`purl`	`get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p`
`18:14.45`	`Mikma`	`there ya go`
`18:14.51`	`Mikk`	`true, that works too ^^`
`18:15.00`	`Mikk`	`ok, so what changes do you need here?`
`18:15.01`	`nevcairiel`	`the images arent in there`
`18:15.02`	`Mikk`	`just fatter border?`
`18:15.06`	`Mikk`	`nevcairiel: yes they are`
`18:15.12`	`Mikk`	`click "extract graphics"`
`18:15.21`	`nevcairiel`	`oh i didnt install those then :D`
`18:15.23`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: well if possible, a fatter and sharp corners`
`18:15.43`	`Mikk`	`righto`
`18:15.53`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: http://homepage.usask.ca/~rss050/wowpics/mockup1.jpg`
`18:16.05`	`Mikma`	`there's an example of what we're trying to do now ;)`
`18:16.16`	`Mikk`	`and black`
`18:16.28`	`nevcairiel`	`we can setvertexcolor them, cant we?`
`18:16.39`	`Mikk`	`yeah`
`18:17.39`	`nevcairiel`	`there we go`
`18:17.41`	`nevcairiel`	`interface art :)`
`18:18.48`	`Saroz`	`I don't like it`
`18:18.55`	`nevcairiel`	`you dont have to`
`18:19.00`	`Mikma`	`who asked you?`
`18:19.06`	`Saroz`	`:/`
`18:19.40`	`cladhaire`	`The interface kit doesn't work for the beta`
`18:19.43`	`CIA-17`	`03thisterhall * r13906 10BabbleLib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): BabbleLib - Added Minor/lesser/major/greater version to Babble Spell 2.0/1 for healthstones, soulstones, firestones and spellstones.`
`18:19.51`	`cladhaire`	`you can always get the most up to date at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/`
`18:19.56`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Popsicle/ <- check it out..`
`18:21.41`	`nevcairiel`	`i always wonderd what it actually does`
`18:21.55`	`Mikma`	`gah!`
`18:22.26`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2630`
`18:23.01`	`CIA-17`	`03thisterhall * r13907 10XAD/ (5 files in 3 dirs): XAD - Changed over to Babblelib 2.1, Added soulstone plugin.`
`18:23.23`	`nevcairiel`	`hrm`
`18:23.27`	`nevcairiel`	`dunno`
`18:23.33`	`nevcairiel`	`might be useful for some people`
`18:23.39`	`Mikma`	`<- ;)`
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`18:25.06`	`Mikma`	`hmm so where was i`
`18:25.27`	`Mikk`	`nevcairiel: http://81.233.236.26/gfx/ChatFrameBorder.tga`
`18:25.47`	`Mikk`	`That's the exact same dimensions, though they're a bit funky`
`18:26.04`	`Mikk`	`( http://81.233.236.26/gfx/ChatFrameBorder.png )`
`18:26.18`	`Mikma`	`hot`
`18:26.19`	`nevcairiel`	`am i kinda blind or is there no border in the lower right corner?`
`18:26.34`	`Mikk`	`o.O`
`18:26.49`	`Mikk`	`oh the faint outline you mean?`
`18:26.50`	`Mikma`	`on my screen it looks like it has glow ontop of the picture :D`
`18:26.51`	`nevcairiel`	`hm its there on .png`
`18:27.20`	`nevcairiel`	`my viewer displays the .tga weird`
`18:27.28`	`nevcairiel`	`black on black backgrounds`
`18:27.32`	`nevcairiel`	`i only see the outline`
`18:27.33`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`18:27.37`	`Mikk`	`ah`
`18:27.43`	`Mikk`	`it'll look better in-game ;)`
`18:28.15`	`nevcairiel`	`it looks like its higher then the default, but not sure if that viewer was correct tho.`
`18:28.38`	`nevcairiel`	`someone should get a .blp plugin for photoshop`
`18:28.44`	`Mikk`	`it's exactly the same size`
`18:28.48`	`Mikk`	`i can do blp too if you like`
`18:28.48`	`andreasg`	`that tga file, can it be used to set as a border with SetBorderTexture or whatever it is called?`
`18:29.06`	`Mikk`	`well. it's the exact same dimensions as the original`
`18:29.13`	`Mikk`	`so if you could with the original.... yes.`
`18:29.20`	`andreasg`	`the original what?`
`18:29.23`	`Mikk`	`ChatFrameBorder`
`18:29.25`	`andreasg`	`ok`
`18:29.39`	`andreasg`	`not sure how that one is applied`
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`18:29.48`	`Mikma`	`who needs a .blp since .tga works :D`
`18:29.51`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: try that texture, i need to leave for ~45min`
`18:30.35`	`Mikma`	`first i need to figure out how to load it xD`
`18:30.50`	`nevcairiel`	`SetTexture on the frames`
`18:31.13`	`nevcairiel`	`place it somewhere in the addons dir, of course :)`
`18:31.18`	`Mikma`	`hehe`
`18:31.22`	`Mikk`	`and restart wow`
`18:31.25`	`Mikma`	`well i need to start to write an addon then`
`18:31.29`	`Mikk`	`^ muy importante`
`18:31.33`	`Mikma`	`or else it won't get loaded :D`
`18:31.45`	`Mikk`	`Bah. Shove it in some other dir`
`18:31.51`	`Mikma`	`i'm having a guess that tinypad doesn't load it much`
`18:31.58`	`Mikk`	`put it in tinypad's dir =)`
`18:32.06`	`Mikma`	`hehe cool idea`
`18:32.43`	`nevcairiel`	`you could put it in any dir`
`18:36.04`	`Mikk`	`hum. interesting idea that. would it load it from even a directory where there is no .toc file?`
`18:36.15`	`mjc`	`Mikma: bah, I want that texture again :p`
`18:36.15`	`Mikk`	`assuming under \AddOns\`
`18:36.45`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikk: hrm, not sure, try it ? =)`
`18:36.46`	`mjc`	`Mikma: your minimap one`
`18:36.54`	`Mikma`	`mjc: http://wow.reaktio.net/Mikma`
`18:36.57`	`mjc`	`thanks`
`18:37.36`	`CIA-17`	`03tazmanyak * r13908 10BabbleLib/BabbleLib.toc:`
`18:37.36`	`CIA-17`	`BabbleLib`
`18:37.36`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:38.06`	`Mikma`	`so a question`
`18:38.26`	`Mikma`	`do i have to SetTexture on the ... ChatFrame1 or ChatFrame1ResizeTopLeftTexture`
`18:38.37`	`nevcairiel`	`the actual texture, so the last`
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`18:40.18`	`Mikma`	`well`
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`18:40.24`	`Mikma`	`it looks kinda.. interesting i must say`
`18:40.40`	`mjc`	`Mikk: cute icons`
`18:40.46`	`nevcairiel`	`interesting sounds funny`
`18:40.48`	`mjc`	`hey ckknight`
`18:40.55`	`Mikk`	`mjc: heh =P tailor made ;)`
`18:41.05`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`18:41.52`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: i think you need to SetTexCoords as well, i think they get cleared when you set a new texture`
`18:42.10`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: no it's cool but there's the problem you can see in .png`
`18:42.36`	`nevcairiel`	`whats that?`
`18:43.28`	`nevcairiel`	`the gradient on the upper part?`
`18:43.42`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire, still here, found a crash in TBC :(`
`18:43.46`	`Mikk`	`i can get rid of all of that if you like. i just left them in from the original`
`18:44.29`	`*** join/#wowace alcaras (i=alcaras@c-68-43-121-149.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)`
`18:44.32`	`alcaras`	`hiya`
`18:44.48`	`alcaras`	`is there a wowace repository for ace2 in the burning crusade beta anywhere?`
`18:45.02`	`cncfanatics`	`ace2 works fine in beta`
`18:45.21`	`alcaras`	`ace2 itself does, but not many mods that use ace2`
`18:45.22`	`nevcairiel`	`stupid people with beta access`
`18:45.32`	`alcaras`	`thus i seek a repository where i can find mods that work with ace2 in beta`
`18:45.34`	`ckknight`	`Ace2 works in the beta, it's just not specifically optimized for it.`
`18:45.42`	`ckknight`	`alcaras, FuBar should work`
`18:45.49`	`Mikk`	`alcaras: the problem is that there's waaaaaaaaaay too few devs with beta access atm`
`18:46.02`	`nevcairiel`	`alcaras: since not every developer has beta access, you wont see the addons fixed.`
`18:46.02`	`alcaras`	`mikk: i know :(`
`18:46.06`	`alcaras`	`nevcairiel: i know`
`18:46.11`	`alcaras`	`i've been trying to fix things myself :p`
`18:46.12`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: http://wow.reaktio.net/chat1.jpg <- setvertexcolor`
`18:46.18`	`Mikk`	`come open beta and the situation will certainly change`
`18:46.20`	`alcaras`	`but i am not as good as the original developer, obviously`
`18:46.23`	`alcaras`	`there is no open beta :-/`
`18:46.26`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: http://wow.reaktio.net/chat2.jpg <- settexture + setvertexcolor`
`18:46.26`	`nevcairiel`	`ah the gradient doesnt get set`
`18:46.28`	`alcaras`	`closed -> release on nov28`
`18:46.32`	`Mikk`	`O.O`
`18:46.40`	`nevcairiel`	`ah.`
`18:46.46`	`Mikk`	`that's not too damn clever if you ask me`
`18:46.57`	`alcaras`	`afaik, no plans for an open beta`
`18:47.02`	`alcaras`	`might change of course, but unlikely`
`18:47.04`	`ckknight`	`no open beta`
`18:47.07`	`ckknight`	`no need for it`
`18:47.09`	`alcaras`	`they want to get it out`
`18:47.10`	`Mikk`	`i mean... the changes introduced WILL break every damn addon there is, basically`
`18:47.14`	`alcaras`	`also closed beta is huge`
`18:47.16`	`ckknight`	`there will be a PTR for WoW 2.0, though`
`18:47.22`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikk setvertexcolor doesnt work on your border, can you make it complete grey-ish ?`
`18:47.25`	`alcaras`	`are you in beta yet ckknight?`
`18:47.28`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`18:47.31`	`alcaras`	`yay`
`18:47.37`	`Mikk`	`nevcairiel: you don't want it black?`
`18:47.40`	`ckknight`	`with mad h4x`
`18:47.55`	`alcaras`	`which server are you ?`
`18:47.59`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: black is good. but look at the pictures i pasted :)`
`18:48.19`	`ckknight`	`alcaras, downloading the client`
`18:48.22`	`alcaras`	`ah`
`18:48.24`	`ckknight`	`I'll be playing on EU, though`
`18:48.31`	`alcaras`	`k`
`18:48.33`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikk: when its black, we cannot change the color with vertexcolor, or?`
`18:48.34`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: eu? wtf you on eu?`
`18:48.39`	`Mikk`	`nevcairiel: correct`
`18:48.40`	`alcaras`	`fubar had to be edited a bit, or at least the last version of fubar i had`
`18:48.41`	`ckknight`	`I got an EU key.`
`18:48.56`	`Mikk`	`so, i assume you WANT to be able to do that then`
`18:49.00`	`alcaras`	`anyone know of a parserlib that's been lua 5.1'd friendlied?`
`18:49.04`	`nevcairiel`	`i would be fine with black`
`18:49.16`	`Mikk`	`argh, make up your minds =)`
`18:49.20`	`nevcairiel`	`but no idea if some people would want other color setups`
`18:49.22`	`Mikk`	`do you want to be able to setvertexcolor it or no?`
`18:49.27`	`Mikk`	`i'll take that as a yes`
`18:49.30`	`nevcairiel`	`yes`
`18:49.30`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`18:49.55`	`Mikma`	`yeh some people just don't wan't to stick with the basics :P`
`18:50.02`	`Mikma`	`they want to finetune everything :(`
`18:50.10`	`nevcairiel`	`ckknight: do you know any timeframe for that api ptr?`
`18:50.15`	`Mikma`	`black will rock, atleast for me`
`18:50.22`	`alcaras`	`nev: i'd guess nov 14ish`
`18:50.28`	`ckknight`	`nevcairiel, a month or two, according to Slouken (unofficial)`
`18:50.47`	`ckknight`	`alcaras is probably very close`
`18:50.53`	`nevcairiel`	`sounds good`
`18:51.16`	`Mikma`	`well i preordered it so i hope i will get it asap so i can start fixing bt2 :)`
`18:51.22`	`nevcairiel`	`i hope they make the 28th nov date.`
`18:51.53`	`alcaras`	`any change of getting a separate tbc branch up for ace mods on the svn?`
`18:51.57`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma as things stand, you can basicly start creating a new bartender3, since you will be redoing everything :p`
`18:52.05`	`CIA-17`	`03mjc 07mjc * r13909 10Squeenix/: Squeenix: branching, I have some ideas...`
`18:52.07`	`alcaras`	`i'm not a ace developer but i have edited a bunch of mods to make them work with tbc`
`18:52.11`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: heeeell no :(`
`18:52.15`	`alcaras`	`and perhaps i could somehow check them in, not sure`
`18:52.18`	`Mikma`	`i don't wan't to start over that mess`
`18:52.22`	`alcaras`	`so other people at least don't have to redo my work`
`18:52.36`	`mjc`	`alcaras: file bugs on flyspray :)`
`18:52.38`	`alcaras`	`you wrote bartender mikma?`
`18:52.40`	`alcaras`	`<3`
`18:52.41`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: some parts are really a mess :)`
`18:52.48`	`alcaras`	`mjc: even if they're tbc bugs?`
`18:52.50`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: my coding is a mess :D`
`18:52.55`	`Mikk`	`nevcairiel/Mikma: Done. reload.`
`18:52.58`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: i'm not that good at it at all :D`
`18:52.59`	`Ghent`	`my coding is pretty :(`
`18:53.28`	`mjc`	`alcaras: attach your patches, I guess. once you've hung around a little more you can shoot cladhaire an email to get access :)`
`18:53.41`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikk: looks good`
`18:53.45`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: why is it shaped like that? :D`
`18:53.48`	`alcaras`	`mjc: forgive my noobness, but hwere is flyspary?`
`18:54.05`	`nevcairiel`	`flyspray is gone i think`
`18:54.10`	`mjc`	`it is gone`
`18:54.12`	`mjc`	`sorry ;p`
`18:54.19`	`mjc`	`that must have been recent`
`18:54.20`	`Mikk`	`Mikma: feck knows. the original is shaped like that =)`
`18:54.30`	`Mikk`	`i can change it to cover the 64x128 if you like`
`18:54.30`	`mjc`	`alcaras: haha`
`18:54.37`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: lawl :D`
`18:54.41`	`nevcairiel`	`nah, we would have to change the tex coords then`
`18:54.44`	`nevcairiel`	`too much work`
`18:54.44`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`18:54.45`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: don't bother yey i'll test it`
`18:54.46`	`Mikk`	`oki =)`
`18:54.48`	`mjc`	`alcaras: alright, shoot cladhaire an email (at gmail) then`
`18:55.11`	`mjc`	`but I'd be happy to review anything you've got in the meantime.`
`18:55.21`	`mjc`	`diff -u is my best friend :D`
`18:55.30`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: now THAT'S hot!`
`18:55.36`	`nevcairiel`	`maybe we can bug Kaelten in creating a TBC Beta Addon forum`
`18:55.47`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: do screenshot, cannot login right now.`
`18:56.10`	`alcaras`	`mjc: my most recent set of working tbc mods is here: http://wiki.subcreation.net/alcui/beta ... not all ace2 stuff tho`
`18:56.36`	`mjc`	`idChat was renamed to prat`
`18:56.41`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: coming`
`18:56.42`	`alcaras`	`atm trying to set up wowaceupdated`
`18:57.06`	`cncfanatics`	`can anyone help me ?`
`18:57.18`	`nevcairiel`	`cncfanatics: try us`
`18:57.18`	`cncfanatics`	`ckknight, got BC beta installed ?`
`18:57.24`	`cncfanatics`	`need someone with beta :p`
`18:57.30`	`ckknight`	`installing it now`
`18:57.35`	`alcaras`	`cncfanatics: i have bc beta installed`
`18:57.40`	`alcaras`	`mjc: news to me, thanks`
`18:58.11`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, nvm :p`
`18:58.12`	`Mikma`	`http://wow.reaktio.net/chat3.jpg`
`18:58.13`	`cladhaire`	`alcaras: Heyas alc =)`
`18:58.25`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: nice job :) that looks extremely hot`
`18:58.33`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: can you vertexcolor it black and screenshot ? :p`
`18:58.41`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire`
`18:58.42`	`alcaras`	`hi cladhaire`
`18:58.44`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: sure`
`18:58.57`	`cncfanatics`	`Frame:GetPoint(); makes WoW crash if you are calling it on a dynamicly created frame thats is being or just got dragged (didnt try with frames created from XML)`
`18:59.05`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire, does slouken know that ?`
`18:59.11`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: well ok...`
`18:59.16`	`Mikma`	`look at the chat2.jpg`
`18:59.18`	`mjc`	alcaras: suggestion, to make it easier on me... svn co http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/nameofaddon nameofaddon; copy alcarasversion nameofaddon; `svn diff nameofaddon > nameofaddon-tbc.diff`
`18:59.35`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: for some reason it still looks like the chat2.jpg as black`
`18:59.41`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: I don't know.. again, send the message you want postd, and we'll post it.`
`18:59.45`	`nevcairiel`	`with the redish thing ?`
`18:59.50`	`cncfanatics`	`did already, scroll way up`
`18:59.54`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: no only with black color`
`18:59.55`	`cncfanatics`	`and include what I just posted here also`
`18:59.59`	`alcaras`	`mjc: right now i am going through and getting the latest version of the various ace2 mods to see if they already incorproated some of my fixes`
`19:00.04`	`cladhaire`	`send it to me directly`
`19:00.07`	`Mikma`	`but topleft is thick and bottomright is thin`
`19:00.07`	`alcaras`	`since i was working in alpha and might be out of date`
`19:00.07`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: its supposed to look like that, so its good :)`
`19:00.13`	`cladhaire`	`in PM's.. i can't hunt through logs =)`
`19:00.14`	`alcaras`	`b/c you people update way too often :-/`
`19:00.21`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: thats the gradient`
`19:00.24`	`cncfanatics`	`haha, k, but nvm, i'll ask dhagger to send it`
`19:00.25`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: well i think it would be good to have it look the same all the way?`
`19:00.28`	`mjc`	`alcaras: windows user?`
`19:00.33`	`alcaras`	`yeah :-/`
`19:00.40`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: dunno, decide and tell mikk`
`19:00.49`	`cncfanatics`	`cladhaire: I managed to do what I wanted while the mouse has an action :)`
`19:00.53`	`cncfanatics`	`so thats no longer an issue`
`19:01.10`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: well what do you think?`
`19:01.12`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: okay.. well like i said.. i will post any questions you hav.. you just have to direct them to m with the text you want.`
`19:01.26`	`mjc`	`alcaras: grab cygwin, and I have an updater script you can use`
`19:01.43`	`mjc`	`or jujst use winaceupdater`
`19:01.46`	`mjc`	`one of the two :)`
`19:01.49`	`alcaras`	`aye`
`19:01.51`	`alcaras`	`getting winaceupdater atm`
`19:01.52`	`Mikk`	`Mikma: i'm removing the gradient`
`19:01.53`	`cladhaire`	`alcaras: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules#Getting_an_Account`
`19:02.06`	`mjc`	`but if you are wanting to use svn anyways I'd suggest getting cygwin and doing it that way :)`
`19:02.09`	`mjc`	`cladhaire: that's new`
`19:02.11`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: neato :)`
`19:02.28`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: the same width border will be ok, like 3 pixels all around`
`19:02.44`	`Mikma`	`or i don't know, look at the chat3.jpg and imagine it without gradient :)`
`19:02.48`	`mjc`	`Mikma: incorporating your minimap stuff into squeenix`
`19:03.04`	`Mikma`	`mjc: mmkay`
`19:03.07`	`alcaras`	`done cladhaire`
`19:03.08`	`mjc`	`branches at least`
`19:03.20`	`Mikma`	`i would REALLY like to remember who helped me with that minimaptexture back when i was interested at it`
`19:03.47`	`Mikma`	`someone in here had been playing around with the minimaptextures and he showed me how to do it`
`19:03.53`	`mjc`	`vicodin makes me code`
`19:04.06`	`mjc`	`dangerous stuff this`
`19:04.32`	`deci`	`~whaleslap alcaras`
`19:04.44`	`purl`	`ACTION beats alcaras upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh`
`19:04.44`	`alcaras`	`heya stabface`
`19:04.45`	`deci`	`heya`
`19:05.08`	`mjc`	`what the fuck, squeenix is crappy as heck right now :/`
`19:05.43`	`mjc`	`everything's like thrown into onenable`
`19:06.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`i liked squeenix before the moveable code was added that moved it away from MinimapCluster`
`19:07.11`	`Iceroth`	`i don't assume any of you beta ppl would have a druid at lvl 67 and could tell me how much is the untalented shapeshift cost?`
`19:07.16`	`CIA-17`	`03mjc 07mjc * r13910 10Squeenix/: Squeenix: sorry, but I guess I'll have to write my own minimap mod. ick.`
`19:08.05`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`19:08.15`	`*** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x5733e2bd.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)`
`19:08.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`can you make sure you test it at the EPL guard towers with the capture progress bars?`
`19:08.58`	`nevcairiel`	`some mod is hiding my capture progress bar`
`19:09.01`	`nevcairiel`	`and i dont know which`
`19:09.03`	`alcaras`	`no mod hides those`
`19:09.03`	`andreasg`	`mjc: squeenix was converted to Ace2 as a very fast hack =P`
`19:09.05`	`alcaras`	`join localdefense`
`19:09.06`	`*** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@12-196-151-251.psknet.net)`
`19:09.09`	`alcaras`	`not being in localdefense hides it`
`19:09.12`	`nevcairiel`	`oh`
`19:09.13`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`19:09.18`	`nevcairiel`	`that explains that`
`19:09.19`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`19:09.23`	`mjc`	`andreasg: squeenix appears to be a complete hack`
`19:09.24`	`alcaras`	`yes, i thought it was a mod too at first`
`19:09.45`	`andreasg`	`mjc: what is the problem though?`
`19:10.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`mines under my fubar i think because my minimap has been moved up slightly from minimapcluster because of the location box being removed`
`19:10.14`	`mjc`	`andreasg: 95% of the code that acutally does anything is in onenable.. ?`
`19:11.15`	`chuckg`	`Is svn.wowace.com a special svn viewer?`
`19:11.27`	`kergoth`	`mjc: might want to check out simpleminimap. its modular at least, each piece of minimap fucntionality is a seperate module`
`19:11.34`	`kergoth`	`and is ace2 of course`
`19:11.37`	`andreasg`	`mjc: it would take me two seconds to move some of it to another function, but would it matter?`
`19:11.38`	`mjc`	`kergoth: I've looked at it`
`19:11.41`	`andreasg`	`:P`
`19:12.15`	`gnorlish`	`simpleminimap stole my bike`
`19:12.19`	`mjc`	`kergoth: not happy with any of them`
`19:12.45`	`alcaras`	`anyone know how to tell WinAceUpdater where my addons directory is?`
`19:12.53`	`mjc`	`alcaras: very carefully`
`19:12.53`	`alcaras`	`it's looking at my wow retail directory instead of beta :-/`
`19:13.11`	`alcaras`	`also, all the ace addons have the wrong toc value :-/ need 20000 or it doesn't work at all :(`
`19:13.24`	`mjc`	`alcaras: dude`
`19:13.30`	`mjc`	`get a real shell and learn to use sed`
`19:13.31`	`mjc`	`:p`
`19:13.33`	`alcaras`	`hehe`
`19:13.40`	`alcaras`	`i will, but i'm lazy :p`
`19:13.56`	`nevcairiel`	`yay i can login again`
`19:13.59`	`andreasg`	`I'd suggest not trying to move your entire 30+ prefered addons into BC`
`19:14.00`	`*** join/#wowace Quantuvis (n=quantuvi@0x5731960b.rdnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)`
`19:14.04`	`andreasg`	`because it will break`
`19:14.19`	`alcaras`	`i've already done it and fixed those i could fix :p`
`19:14.23`	`alcaras`	`some are unfixable`
`19:14.37`	`Saroz`	`Is ElkBuffBar the only Ace buffbars there is?`
`19:14.44`	`andreasg`	`I'd say there's no unit frames working in BC yet`
`19:14.46`	`mjc`	`alcaras: find AddOns -name \*toc \| xargs -I {} sed -i .bak -e s/11200/2000/g {}`
`19:14.55`	`alcaras`	`no unitframes no actionbars`
`19:15.01`	`alcaras`	`have to be rewritten from the ground up`
`19:15.12`	`mjc`	`alcaras: aka stop whining :)`
`19:15.14`	`Quantuvis`	`Saroz, Buffalo, a new project with stock buff layout is currently being developed`
`19:15.16`	`alcaras`	`yeah yeah mjc`
`19:15.20`	`alcaras`	`i know`
`19:15.23`	`Saroz`	`what layouts`
`19:15.23`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: http://wow.reaktio.net/chat4.jpg`
`19:15.29`	`andreasg`	`I think I can get away without rewriting as I don't want to use those secure anchors... They piss me off :P`
`19:15.32`	`mjc`	`alcaras: http://cygwin.com/setup.exe`
`19:15.34`	`mjc`	`:P`
`19:15.40`	`alcaras`	`hehe thanks`
`19:15.44`	`alcaras`	`go get get beta mjc! :p`
`19:15.52`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: that looks good. did i miss the new texture ? :)`
`19:15.55`	`mjc`	`alcaras: how`
`19:15.59`	`alcaras`	`ask slouken?`
`19:16.00`	`alcaras`	`not sure`
`19:16.10`	`andreasg`	`slouken doesn't give out keys`
`19:16.13`	`mjc`	`he'd stab me`
`19:16.22`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: yeah you did :D`
`19:16.23`	`Xuerian`	`Mikma: Your own custom frame?`
`19:16.23`	`alcaras`	`send him an e-mail like "hiz0rs i writez ui modz 4 ur g4me -- giev m3 b3t4z0rz"`
`19:16.29`	`mjc`	`haha`
`19:16.42`	`ckknight`	`I tried to get a key from Slouken, he ran out of em`
`19:16.44`	`mjc`	`kergoth: wtf @ OnMouseWheel in smm xml`
`19:16.50`	`Mikma`	`Xuerian: Mikk made the texture :)`
`19:17.29`	`Xuerian`	`Mikk is addicted to making [good] textures ;P`
`19:17.36`	`Xuerian`	`Promising, though.`
`19:17.56`	`Mikma`	`yeah seems like we should keep him happy so he sticks around ;D`
`19:18.32`	`mjc`	`ugh!`
`19:18.49`	`mjc`	`can I rant?`
`19:18.54`	`gnorlish`	`~mikk`
`19:18.55`	`purl`	`rumour has it, mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT`
`19:18.57`	`andreasg`	`ckknight: anyway, it seems like we WON'T be able to move frames on R_R_U, we have to use some secure anchor templates that controls the units frames and their position`
`19:18.57`	`mjc`	`or should I just stab the wall`
`19:19.09`	`gnorlish`	`rant the wall`
`19:19.14`	`Mikma`	`mjc: just a sec i'll ignore you`
`19:19.14`	`Xuerian`	`mjc: rant away. :P`
`19:19.18`	`Mikma`	`there. rant away`
`19:19.25`	`alcaras`	`thanks for your help guys :)`
`19:19.58`	`andreasg`	`ckknight: as I'd rather not use those anchors because they will 100% break my AceOO approach, I will have to use a dirty list`
`19:20.06`	`mjc`	`fucking minimap addons are all retarded, what the fuck. smm turns on drag stuff in onenable, idminimap does the onmousewheel stuff in onenable... blah blah fucking garbage`
`19:20.09`	`mjc`	`there, I'm done`
`19:20.27`	`gnorlish`	`that's a pretty sad rant`
`19:20.34`	`alcaras`	`2/10`
`19:20.35`	`andreasg`	`mjc: what's wrong with having the stuff in OnEnable?`
`19:20.44`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r13911 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/FuBarPlugin-1.2/: Standalone Libraries - Added FBP-1.2`
`19:20.52`	`Xuerian`	`2/10 +1 =\... more rage! More anger! MORE EXCLAMATION MARKS`
`19:20.56`	`Mikma`	`that's a small whine, not even a rant`
`19:21.00`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com)`
`19:21.00`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ`
`19:21.03`	`gnorlish`	`less sense-making`
`19:21.04`	`mjc`	`andreasg: um`
`19:21.05`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: Ping`
`19:21.27`	`nevcairiel`	`whats !!!StandaloneLibraries now?`
`19:21.28`	`Mikk`	`purl, no, mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied.`
`19:21.29`	`purl`	`okay, Mikk`
`19:21.44`	`Mikma`	`lawl`
`19:21.47`	`Xuerian`	`Mikk: I'm going to need some more things :P`
`19:21.50`	`andreasg`	`ckknight_: I guess you missed the stuff I wrote before then`
`19:21.55`	`Mikk`	`Xuerian: shoot =)`
`19:22.02`	`Xuerian`	`Tried XLoot Monitor yet?`
`19:22.11`	`ckknight_`	`very likely`
`19:22.12`	`Mikk`	`me? no.`
`19:22.19`	`Mikk`	`i just pixel shit =)`
`19:22.20`	`alcaras`	`what's xloot monitor do?`
`19:22.21`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r13912 10FuBarPlugin-1.2/FuBarPlugin-1.2.toc: FuBarPlugin-1.2 - Now LoD`
`19:22.35`	`andreasg`	`ckknight_: okay, I'll repeat: it seems like we WON'T be able to move frames on R_R_U, we have to use some secure anchor templates that controls the units frames and their position`
`19:22.39`	`Xuerian`	`It's a loot log parser, to be simple`
`19:22.40`	`Xuerian`	`anyway`
`19:22.50`	`ckknight_`	`hrm`
`19:23.00`	`nevcairiel`	`there`
`19:23.11`	`andreasg`	`clad is all worked over it, but I think it sucks, as it breaks my OO approach badly`
`19:23.18`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: the border looks really good now :)`
`19:23.42`	`Xuerian`	`Mikk, I need textures for it. I need a highlight one (outward glow), to fit rectangles approx 20 60 (I'd stretch it), and I need some modified rarity frames`
`19:24.00`	`Mikk`	`screenshots plx`
`19:24.07`	`Mikk`	`of what it looks like today i mean =)`
`19:24.28`	`Xuerian`	`Oh. Ehm, give me a minute :)`
`19:25.02`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: hmm i don't see a difference between the last 2 :D`
`19:25.35`	`Xuerian`	`alcaras: I think dewdrop is broken, but the rest should work`
`19:25.48`	`alcaras`	`slouken fixed dewdrop last alpha patch`
`19:25.55`	`alcaras`	`it works fine from what i can in loading it up`
`19:26.09`	`andreasg`	`does anyone know if all the Ace2 libs still work in BC?`
`19:26.10`	`Mikma`	`"fixed dewdrop" ?`
`19:26.14`	`Xuerian`	`Well, tell me if anything doesn't work :P`
`19:26.26`	`alcaras`	`mikma: fixed a bug in alpha that dewdrop was running into`
`19:26.35`	`Industrial`	`I did do it the right way :P`
`19:26.59`	`Industrial`	`anyone here use vim?`
`19:27.05`	`mjc`	`Industrial: yep`
`19:27.18`	`Industrial`	`I cant get foldmethod=syntax to work with filetypelua`
`19:27.32`	`Industrial`	`s/lua/=lua/`
`19:27.59`	`Industrial`	`Anyone using this or any other form of folding?`
`19:28.10`	`CIA-17`	`03leech * r13913 10dgks/dgks.lua: dgks: Fixed a typo`
`19:28.25`	`Industrial`	`I usually use manual folds but am getting sick of folding documents before beginning to work on them`
`19:28.50`	`alcaras`	`hrm ... advanced options test handler .. ."if you're using this, kill yourself now <3"`
`19:28.51`	`alcaras`	`wtf :p`
`19:28.58`	`CIA-17`	`03flyflame * r13914 10BigWigs/ (10 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: zhCN locals update`
`19:29.00`	`Xuerian`	`lol`
`19:29.07`	`Xuerian`	`I was tired :P`
`19:29.10`	`mjc`	`Industrial: hum`
`19:29.18`	`Industrial`	`mjc: ^^`
`19:29.33`	`Mikma`	`http://wow.reaktio.net/chat5.jpg`
`19:29.36`	`mjc`	`Industrial: when I want folding I use textmate, I can look into it after I write this minimap mod`
`19:29.44`	`alcaras`	`is there documentation for this addon anywhere?`
`19:29.50`	`Xuerian`	`Absolutely none`
`19:29.51`	`alcaras`	`i can't find a wiki page for it`
`19:29.55`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: whats the difference to before?`
`19:30.07`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: ask mikk :D`
`19:30.07`	`alcaras`	`if i am solo, should i be seeing my $$ earnings anywhere?`
`19:30.15`	`Mikma`	`he did his magics on the corners`
`19:30.25`	`Industrial`	`mjc: dolfmethod=syntax uses some setting to decide where to fold on syntax keywords like from function to end, etc`
`19:30.27`	`Xuerian`	`I haven't figured out how to catch those yet, alcaras, it's probably a event other than chatlog`
`19:30.31`	`Mikk`	`i just tried to make them ever so slightly rounded like the mockup`
`19:30.31`	`nevcairiel`	`still same url?`
`19:30.33`	`Mikk`	`yes`
`19:30.37`	`alcaras`	`ok, but if i do see items drop, i see that, right?`
`19:30.46`	`Xuerian`	`Mikk: http://imagesocket.com/view/xloot_monitore50.jpg`
`19:30.48`	`alcaras`	`ah yeah, i see it now`
`19:30.52`	`Xuerian`	`Yep`
`19:30.53`	`mjc`	`Industrial: yeah, it just works in textmate.`
`19:30.59`	`alcaras`	`and does it show gold splitting?`
`19:31.05`	`Industrial`	`mjc: no textmate for windows :(`
`19:31.27`	`Mikma`	`xloot monitor <3`
`19:31.49`	`Industrial`	`alot of mac software is really good`
`19:31.56`	`Industrial`	`but not available for windows :(`
`19:32.02`	`steino`	`wtb iComic for linux`
`19:32.14`	`mjc`	`because it uses frameworks taht don't suck monkey cock`
`19:32.16`	`CIA-17`	`03cncfanatics * r13915 10FlexBar2/ (FlexBar2.lua FlexBar2_Controller.lua FlexBar2_View.lua): FlexBar2: Got Clicking instead of dragging while an action is on your mouse dragging, but Dragging buttons around still crashes the client, probably a bug in the client itself`
`19:32.17`	`mjc`	`:)`
`19:32.26`	`Industrial`	`lol`
`19:32.43`	`Industrial`	`cncfanatics: can we configure fb2 yet? :P`
`19:32.55`	`cncfanatics`	`no keybindings`
`19:33.14`	`Mikk`	`Xuerian: poke read your privmsgs =)`
`19:33.17`	`cncfanatics`	`and it crashes when u move a button around anyway, cuz of a bug with GetPoint() in BC, so its pointless for now :p`
`19:33.57`	`*** join/#wowace Sairen (n=Miranda@p549E5BD7.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`19:34.00`	`Industrial`	`k`
`19:34.05`	`ckknight_`	`alright`
`19:34.12`	`ckknight_`	`cncfanatics, mind helping me a bit?`
`19:34.19`	`ckknight_`	`just got the beta installed`
`19:34.23`	`ckknight_`	`and I want the EU realmlist`
`19:34.35`	`Industrial`	`eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com`
`19:34.52`	`Xuerian`	`lol Mikma, I thought you loved XLMaster? :P <3`
`19:34.53`	`mjc`	`powerbook:~ mjc$ sudo port install emacs-devel +carbon +atsui +gtk yay new version :)`
`19:35.00`	`Industrial`	`ckknight: in your realmlist.wtf`
`19:35.07`	`andreasg`	`ckknight_: who did you get a key from? :P`
`19:35.09`	`ckknight`	`sure it's not beta.eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com`
`19:35.12`	`andreasg`	`if I may asak`
`19:35.15`	`Industrial`	`dunno might`
`19:35.17`	`Industrial`	`just try :D`
`19:35.18`	`ckknight`	`andreasg, some French guy, through the curse team.`
`19:35.25`	`ckknight`	`I know the higher ups`
`19:35.25`	`cncfanatics`	`set realmlist beta.eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com`
`19:35.40`	`Industrial`	`neato ck :o`
`19:35.40`	`ckknight`	`okay, thanks`
`19:35.44`	`Mikma`	`Xuerian: i love em all!`
`19:36.05`	`cncfanatics`	`btw ckknight, what realm ur on ?`
`19:36.13`	`ckknight`	`haven't logged on yet`
`19:36.23`	`cncfanatics`	`takes 2 days to copy ur char`
`19:36.34`	`mjc`	`I want on the goddamn beta.`
`19:36.35`	`cncfanatics`	`anyway, make all ur chars on twisting nether :`
`19:36.42`	`mjc`	`someone get me a key.`
`19:36.45`	`*** join/#wowace maia (n=maia@dynamic.62-99-255-203.adsl-line.inode.at)`
`19:36.57`	`ckknight`	`twisting nether?`
`19:36.57`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`19:37.32`	`Xuerian`	`Mikma: <3`
`19:38.18`	`ckknight`	`don't you mean Tempest Keep?`
`19:38.21`	`cncfanatics`	`ye :p`
`19:38.23`	`cncfanatics`	`my bad`
`19:38.29`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: If you get a chance sometime, I expanded the dewdrop patch to add radiobuttons to aceoptions tables, something I was really missing, but I still have the problem of the custom icons vanishing whenever another menu is opened and the one with icons is closed. They don't reappear till reload: http://xuerian.net/dewdrop_icons_aceoptradio.patch`
`19:39.22`	`ckknight`	`um, radio buttons were already in AceOptions`
`19:39.27`	`ckknight`	`it's type = 'text', validate = table`
`19:39.32`	`Xuerian`	`0_o`
`19:39.35`	`Xuerian`	`Oh.`
`19:39.41`	`ckknight`	`how'd you do it?`
`19:39.55`	`Xuerian`	`I added isRadio to toggles, I had been using sets of toggles <_<;`
`19:40.15`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`19:40.18`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone knows WHY setbindingclick requires a frame name instead of the object ? plain sucks`
`19:40.22`	`ckknight`	`yea, I recommend using type = 'text', validate = table`
`19:40.24`	`ckknight`	`much cleaner`
`19:40.25`	`cncfanatics`	`my frames have no name :(`
`19:40.35`	`ckknight`	`and actually representative`
`19:40.37`	`Xuerian`	`Well, now that I know that I'll use it, but that's one line that can be removed :P the problem is the vanishing icons =(`
`19:40.57`	`ckknight`	`cncfanatics, Horde or Allies?`
`19:41.20`	`ckknight`	`I'll look into it in a bit, must play with beta.`
`19:41.30`	`cncfanatics`	`Horde ckknight`
`19:41.31`	`Saroz`	`I want beta key! :(`
`19:41.35`	`ckknight`	`good stuff`
`19:41.40`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`i want my beta key to show up`
`19:41.57`	`ckknight`	`okay, so what class should my BE be?`
`19:42.11`	`Xuerian`	`Ok, just wanted you to check sometime ck :) I looked through whatever refreshing parts of it I could find, and didn't see anything, so I'm at a loss. I'll remove the radio addin and ping you with one more patch :)`
`19:42.18`	`cncfanatics`	`ur choice, i'm 60 as I transferred my real char over`
`19:42.36`	`ckknight`	`where's the copy page?`
`19:42.41`	`ckknight`	`I wonder if the account has a 60 on it.`
`19:43.19`	`cncfanatics`	`https://beta.wow-europe.com/game/`
`19:43.24`	`cncfanatics`	`there are premade's also if thats up already`
`19:43.41`	`*** join/#wowace Borked\|Coolyo (n=Coolyo@is.a.topmate.dk)`
`19:43.47`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: i placed it in a simple sample addon, works good :)`
`19:44.05`	`cncfanatics`	`anyway, if u make a new char i will too and i'll lvl some with u :p`
`19:44.10`	`Borked\|Coolyo`	`Is there a addon under wowace.com that can make a background in the buttom of the screen like in photek UI ?`
`19:44.15`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: yeah i'm having a neat chatframe1 atm :)`
`19:44.24`	`ckknight`	`don't know what photek UI looks like`
`19:44.32`	`Borked\|Coolyo`	`well, let me explain`
`19:44.35`	`nevcairiel`	`photek uses the oskin bottomframe`
`19:44.37`	`Mikma`	`the only thing is i need to hook all the setvertexcolor's for the parts for them to stick around`
`19:44.50`	`nevcairiel`	`where is the color changed?`
`19:45.03`	`Borked\|Coolyo`	`ckknight a black backgroun behind buttom bars etc. and chat frames`
`19:45.04`	`Mikma`	`was?`
`19:45.11`	`ckknight`	`Borked\|Coolyo, oSkin`
`19:45.12`	`alcaras`	`hrm, anyone know a ui mod that does something like this: if i have battleshout up, nothing; if not, shows me a big battleshout icon that i can move around and position as i wish?`
`19:45.17`	`Borked\|Coolyo`	`ckknight thx`
`19:45.21`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: i'm only having the changes in my tinypad :)`
`19:46.02`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: i apply the layout in OnEnable and it doesnt seem to disappear again`
`19:46.16`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: really? mouseover it`
`19:46.16`	`cncfanatics`	`ckknight, I just made a BE paladin`
`19:46.28`	`Xuerian`	`alcaras: A barmod like FlexBar would be able to do it`
`19:46.44`	`Xuerian`	`Borked\|Coolyo: Once you get it installed, /oskin bottomframe has all the options`
`19:47.13`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: ah i see, i have my frames with background, so they dont fade it`
`19:47.16`	`nevcairiel`	`*in`
`19:47.24`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: :)`
`19:47.29`	`alcaras`	`Xuerian: did you see my PMs w.r.t. xloot?`
`19:47.30`	`Mikma`	`that's why we need to hook the functions`
`19:47.40`	`Mikma`	`i'll start on putting stuff into .lua too now`
`19:47.42`	`nevcairiel`	`we could force a background`
`19:47.53`	`nevcairiel`	`since it looks weird without anyway`
`19:48.01`	`ckknight`	`cncfanatics, I'll be in in a minute`
`19:48.46`	`ckknight`	`cncfanatics, name's Montgomery`
`19:48.55`	`Xuerian`	`alcaras: I don't think so, w.r.t.? If you mean IRC pm's, if you're not registered they won't go through`
`19:49.27`	`alcaras`	`ah`
`19:49.33`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: we need to find a way of disabling the original coloring etc from chats or hell will break loose :D`
`19:49.33`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: we should disallow a full alpha setting.`
`19:49.35`	`alcaras`	`wrt = wirth respec to`
`19:49.43`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah`
`19:49.46`	`nevcairiel`	`remove the color menu`
`19:49.48`	`alcaras`	`wow, i can't type`
`19:49.54`	`Xuerian`	`Oh, no, I didn't get them, /nickserv register <password> /nickserv ident <password> then send again :p`
`19:49.55`	`alcaras`	`didn't know pms didn't go through without registration`
`19:49.55`	`Mikma`	`indeed`
`19:50.01`	`cncfanatics`	`my name is cncfanatics on testrealm now`
`19:50.03`	`cncfanatics`	`inv me to grp`
`19:50.42`	`maia`	`anyone happen to know if one can create a private irc channel for a few people?`
`19:50.43`	`alcaras`	`just was asking about what the purpose of xlootmonitor is... is it just to see recent drops and who got them, rather than a comprehensive report for an entire instance or session?`
`19:50.47`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r13916 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua:`
`19:50.47`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames`
`19:50.47`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:51.51`	`Xuerian`	`alcaras: For now it's recent drops, yes. It's really a Proof of Concept for the row stacking code I'm going to use in the coming addons, so no history yet, but that's on the drawing board.`
`19:51.58`	`alcaras`	`ah ok`
`19:52.05`	`alcaras`	`it's very pretty`
`19:52.08`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r13917 10/branches/DreamChat/: DreamChat: first pre-alpha branch`
`19:52.43`	`Xuerian`	`<3. Need suggestions on appearances though, in addition to the same options XLoot has for it's background/borders which it'll have sooner or later`
`19:52.57`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: put teh files in so i can download it ;)`
`19:53.02`	`alcaras`	`it also works perfectly in beta, once the toc changes to 20k`
`19:53.09`	`nevcairiel`	`sec`
`19:54.11`	`kergoth`	`whats dreamchat?`
`19:54.13`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: ChatFrameXBackground:SetVertexColor() 10-100% ?`
`19:54.18`	`Xuerian`	`Great, alcaras =D`
`19:54.20`	`Mikma`	`kergoth: http://homepage.usask.ca/~rss050/wowpics/mockup1.jpg`
`19:54.23`	`mjc`	`ugly`
`19:54.38`	`mjc`	`nice idea though`
`19:55.26`	`*** join/#wowace FryGuy (i=fryguy@c-24-23-19-160.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)`
`19:55.26`	`Mikma`	`take the mirror away from infront of your monitor and see the beauty of DreamChat ;)`
`19:55.26`	`kergoth`	`yeah those icons suck`
`19:55.28`	`kergoth`	`other than that..`
`19:55.30`	`kergoth`	`nifty`
`19:55.31`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r13918 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua:`
`19:55.31`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames`
`19:55.31`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:55.50`	`Mikma`	`well put Mikk to do some neat icons :)`
`19:56.02`	`maia`	`Grid needs an icon too :)`
`19:56.08`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel 07PoC * r13919 10DreamChat/ (5 files in 2 dirs): DreamChat: Proof-of-Concept branch for development, its not ready for any use whatsoever`
`19:56.08`	`Mikma`	`no`
`19:56.14`	`Mikma`	`it needs a release :D`
`19:56.28`	`Mikma`	`s/release/"release"/`
`19:57.08`	`Xuerian`	`We want grid! We want Grid! /repeat.`
`19:57.48`	`Xuerian`	`Also thanks again to Mikk for doing textures for me :)`
`19:58.09`	`maia`	`there is no 'release' yet. we're currently having problems triggering events, so you can assume not much is working yet. but on the other hand, its completely modular.`
`19:58.27`	`Xuerian`	`Working isn't a requirement.`
`19:58.29`	`Xuerian`	`:p`
`19:58.33`	`Mikma`	`maia: we know we know ;) but fix it then "release" it to us and then check the icons`
`20:00.00`	`Kemayo`	`Mikma: I liked your mockup.`
`20:00.22`	`Xuerian`	`Yeah, it'd be cool if we could just stare at the mockup.`
`20:00.27`	`Xuerian`	`XD`
`20:00.30`	`Kalamadi`	`~seen pastamancer`
`20:00.33`	`purl`	`pastamancer is currently on #wowace (8d 5h 59m 26s). Has said a total of 380 messages. Is idling for 8h 20m 17s, last said: 'maia: I should and will be very soon'.`
`20:00.46`	`Mikma`	`Kemayo: not mine, sorry :(`
`20:00.53`	`maia`	`Kalamadi: it was 8am when he went to bed.`
`20:01.06`	`Kalamadi`	`8 AM...where? :P`
`20:01.18`	`Xuerian`	`EST`
`20:01.36`	`Kalamadi`	`Okay. Eight hours is too much, someone call him =(`
`20:01.43`	`Xuerian`	`haha`
`20:02.08`	`Quantuvis`	`Hmm, anyone else having problems with WinAce Updater atm? it stops updating after aguf for me o.O`
`20:02.23`	`*** join/#wowace FryGuy_ (i=fryguy@c-24-23-19-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`20:03.28`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: i'm adding externals atm`
`20:04.03`	`Vallerius`	`did somebody mention dreamchat?`
`20:04.10`	`nevcairiel`	`its a dev addon, dont add externals :p`
`20:04.36`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: well add the libs in then :)`
`20:04.50`	`nevcairiel`	`dont you use !!!Libs?`
`20:05.23`	`Mikma`	`not in my code-ui ;)`
`20:05.31`	`Mikma`	`oh well time to get it i think`
`20:08.00`	`*** part/#wowace EricBetts (n=bettse@c-24-21-152-38.hsd1.or.comcast.net)`
`20:09.51`	`Vallerius`	`nevcairiel: have you started working on an implementation of dreamchat?`
`20:10.09`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma and me have`
`20:10.43`	`Mikma`	`well now i need to realize how your code works so i can add hooks for it xD`
`20:11.02`	`Vallerius`	`orly? we should compare notes... (that was my mockup, i've already got some code down for it :P)`
`20:12.42`	`Mikma`	`Vallerius: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/DreamChat/PoC/`
`20:12.44`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: for removing the alpha, just hook FCF_SetChatWindowOpacity and limit it to like 0.2`
`20:13.01`	`nevcairiel`	`Vallerius: we are only on the design yet, no real fun code`
`20:13.07`	`vhaarr`	`nevcairiel: Piece of Crap?`
`20:13.13`	`Mikk`	`http://81.233.236.26/gfx/grid/`
`20:13.19`	`nevcairiel`	`Proof of Concept`
`20:13.23`	`vhaarr`	`aha lol`
`20:13.24`	`nevcairiel`	`or Piece of Crap`
`20:13.29`	`vhaarr`	`:D`
`20:13.30`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: lol i love that icon`
`20:13.40`	`Xuerian`	`haha, nice Mikk =D`
`20:13.44`	`Mikk`	`goodie, i wasn't sure if i did :-P`
`20:14.05`	`Xuerian`	`svg... Too bad imagezoom doesn't let me zoom those`
`20:14.43`	`Mikk`	`indeed, especially since they're bloody MADE to be zoomed =)`
`20:14.47`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: just a question. how can you limit the function O_O`
`20:14.50`	`Vallerius`	`the plan i had was to hijack most all of blizzard's chat code, then override the tabbing functionality`
`20:15.40`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: simple`
`20:15.48`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: but the thing is. we can't actually let people to use 'FCF_SetChatWindowOpacity' .. we'll have to create our own way since blizz has the nasty mouseover on/mouseover off`
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`20:16.05`	`mjc`	`if anyone ahs any pointers, I'd appreciate it`
`20:16.06`	`Xuerian`	`Mikk, heheh yeah. Problem is ff doesn't treat them like images =\| maybe newer versions do...`
`20:16.07`	`nevcairiel`	`i didnt understand that now :P`
`20:16.24`	`mjc`	`Xuerian: firefox treats them correctly`
`20:16.29`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: well we need to disable the mouseover alpha on the chats?`
`20:16.32`	`mjc`	`Xuerian: server is not set to the right mime type`
`20:16.37`	`Xuerian`	`Ohh.`
`20:16.45`	`Xuerian`	`:P`
`20:17.05`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: if you set the alpha to not 0, it has no mouseover`
`20:17.19`	`mjc`	`Xuerian: blame mikk`
`20:17.35`	`Xuerian`	`Why? Everything is my fault anyway :P`
`20:18.30`	`Vallerius`	`nevcairiel, mikma: the way I did it was to basically re-implement a basic FloatingChatFrameTemplate. It's pretty simple, since most of the magic happens in ChatFrame`
`20:19.11`	`Mikma`	`Vallerius: can you put the code online somewhere`
`20:19.31`	`mjc`	`WTF`
`20:19.36`	`Mikma`	`FTW`
`20:19.40`	`mjc`	`my addon is the only addon in my folder`
`20:19.52`	`Xuerian`	`o.0`
`20:19.54`	`mjc`	`my externals are correct`
`20:20.02`	`mjc`	`the toc stuff is correct`
`20:20.13`	`Vallerius`	`Mikma: The code doesn't do much yet, it's still mostly busted. Give me a couple more hours and I should have something that kinda looks like it works.`
`20:20.16`	`mjc`	`why can't it find ace2 :/`
`20:20.27`	`nevcairiel`	`i like Vallerius approach with creating a new template`
`20:20.45`	`Mikma`	`Vallerius: no rush i have to figure out nevcairiel's code first to add hooks ;D`
`20:20.57`	`Vallerius`	`Then just hook the ChatFrame_Update and ChatFrameX_AddText code to point at the correct frames`
`20:21.31`	`mjc`	`ah`
`20:21.35`	`mjc`	`no I needed more`
`20:21.42`	`mjc`	`fucking squeenix's tocs are messed up`
`20:22.29`	`nevcairiel`	`couldnt we overwrite the ChatFrameX globals ? :)`
`20:22.41`	`Mikma`	`i think we SHOULD`
`20:22.54`	`nevcairiel`	`not sure if that would work tho.`
`20:23.24`	`nevcairiel`	`the FCF do still alot`
`20:23.26`	`Vallerius`	`nevcairiel: that's probably a better idea`
`20:25.08`	`nevcairiel`	`easiest way would be to reuse the chatframes and only change the functions we need to change`
`20:25.21`	`nevcairiel`	`like remove the "Display" options block from the menu.`
`20:25.58`	`mjc`	`Industrial: ping.`
`20:26.13`	`Fisker`	`has anyone made a lightweight item scanner plus lootlink mod for TBC?`
`20:26.24`	`Vallerius`	`nevcairiel, mikma: my high-level plan is to reimplement the tabgroup functionality that's already there, and display stack frames instead of tabs`
`20:27.01`	`Mikma`	`yeah that will do if you can find a way of doing it wisely`
`20:27.26`	`nevcairiel`	`well`
`20:27.31`	`Vallerius`	`I haven't thought that aspect through too much yet, though. I've mostly been concerned with getting the new chat frames in`
`20:27.40`	`nevcairiel`	`you dont really need the tabs, tabs are only chatframes which are hidden as well`
`20:28.01`	`nevcairiel`	`if you pull a tab out its basicly the same`
`20:28.03`	`nevcairiel`	`only shown :)`
`20:28.38`	`CIA-17`	`03devla * r13920 10/branches/MountMe/ (9 files in 4 dirs):`
`20:28.38`	`CIA-17`	`MountMe: Branched Tekkub's great mount mod.`
`20:28.38`	`CIA-17`	`-Removed Itemswap`
`20:28.38`	`CIA-17`	`-Removed Fubar plugin`
`20:28.39`	`CIA-17`	`-Set proper externals in TOC`
`20:28.39`	`CIA-17`	`-Still needs externals, will upload later tonight. Check the TOC to see whats needed.`
`20:31.50`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r13921 10BigWigs/Plugins/Version.lua: BigWigs: Version: Use pairs.`
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`20:33.39`	`nevcairiel`	`anyway, reusing the existing chatframes kinda failed, would need hooks all over the place`
`20:33.51`	`nevcairiel`	`So a new FloatingChatframe sounds good`
`20:34.31`	`Mikma`	`well we only need ... 9 hooks ;)`
`20:35.05`	`nevcairiel`	`some of the stuff we need changed or removed is in the middle of a big function, re-implementing that sucks.`
`20:35.09`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: not sure you're here, but`
`20:35.13`	`Mikma`	`_G["ChatFrame..i.."Background"]:SetVertexColor(foo) ..`
`20:35.27`	`andreasg`	`when the anchors create new frames, how do you know which one represents which unit?`
`20:35.42`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: if it were that easy .. :)`
`20:35.49`	`andreasg`	`and how do you run functions after they have been created?`
`20:36.10`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: i mean we need to hook those SetVertexColor's to get rid of the mouseover fadein/out`
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`20:36.36`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: there is no mouseover effect when you set the alpha > 0`
`20:36.54`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: well then we need to remove the alpha from menu too`
`20:37.04`	`nevcairiel`	`you cannot change the menu`
`20:37.21`	`nevcairiel`	`except copy/pasting the full menu code and replacing the function`
`20:37.23`	`nevcairiel`	`which sucks.`
`20:37.29`	`Mikma`	`aye it does`
`20:38.15`	`nevcairiel`	`So a new FloatingChatFrame, with a new dewdrop menu is easier :)`
`20:38.54`	`Mikma`	`well i have no idea how to do that`
`20:39.09`	`Vallerius`	`just about got the new FCF fired up`
`20:41.42`	`PProvost`	`Hey all... I'm looking for an alternative to outfitter. Suggestions? I'd like to use one of ours if a good one exists.`
`20:41.55`	`nevcairiel`	`use the ClosetGnome`
`20:42.22`	`nevcairiel`	`he recently moved here and is very helpful`
`20:42.28`	`Mikk`	`mjc: argh. freshly installed debian+apache2 and it still isn't right`
`20:42.40`	`mjc`	`you have to set it by hand.`
`20:43.04`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r13922 10Transcriptor/Core.lua: Transcriptor: Use pairs(...).`
`20:43.06`	`CIA-17`	`03skyboat 07Skyboat * r13923 10oSkin/oSkin/ (10 files in 2 dirs): oSkin (Skyboat): Merged from latest trunk.`
`20:43.22`	`mjc`	`Mikk: image/targa`
`20:43.30`	`mjc`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truevision_TGA`
`20:44.04`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: not sure i understand your question`
`20:44.13`	`cladhaire`	`the first one at least`
`20:44.31`	`mjc`	`Skyboat: what's in yours`
`20:44.44`	`PProvost`	`nevcairiel, does ClosetGnome let me set outfits for different states? (e.g. Druid Cat)`
`20:44.53`	`Mikk`	`mjc: oh, i thought it was the svg mapping that was borken`
`20:45.01`	`Mikk`	`so i put that in`
`20:45.04`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: the anchors create the frames it needs to display the filters you select, how do we get to know that frame1 represents raid32, frame2 raid24`
`20:45.07`	`andreasg`	`etc`
`20:45.07`	`nevcairiel`	`PProvost: ask vhaarr`
`20:45.19`	`cladhaire`	`yyou can GetAttribute("unit")`
`20:45.39`	`andreasg`	`so they are created with their unit as attribute, ok`
`20:45.52`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: You should write a plugin to support that, it's still needed.`
`20:46.02`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: That would handle warrior stances, shadow form, stealth, +++.`
`20:46.07`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: Aye.. all unit frames have to have the unit attribute, or they wont do anything`
`20:46.18`	`PProvost`	`Hokay. I'll take a look at it.`
`20:46.26`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: ClosetGnome_Forms or something, try to get a snappy name for it.`
`20:46.37`	`PProvost`	`hehe`
`20:46.39`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: There are many modules already for CG, ninja all the code you want.`
`20:46.46`	`PProvost`	`vhaarr, is there a wiki page for it?`
`20:46.49`	`vhaarr`	`No.`
`20:46.51`	`PProvost`	`kk`
`20:46.54`	`vhaarr`	`And no forum post either.`
`20:46.58`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: it's just so you can click and target I guess`
`20:46.59`	`PProvost`	`:D`
`20:47.07`	`cladhaire`	`yes`
`20:47.15`	`andreasg`	`Gethealth and status bars still works as usual`
`20:47.32`	`cladhaire`	`correct`
`20:47.59`	`Mikk`	`Xuerian: Try that SVG again`
`20:48.05`	`andreasg`	`anyway, so lets say the anchor creates four new frames, how do I run a function afterwards that checks out if new frames have been created?`
`20:48.16`	`mjc`	`WHAT THE F`
`20:48.41`	`andreasg`	`I can't register for RRU because then I won't be sure it is executed after`
`20:48.45`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: in combat or out of combat?`
`20:48.53`	`andreasg`	`in combat`
`20:48.59`	`cladhaire`	`well, since they're coming from xml templates`
`20:49.08`	`cladhaire`	`you can just have an onload that triggers your stuff imo`
`20:49.15`	`cladhaire`	`there are a few ways to do it.`
`20:49.17`	`mjc`	`http://325i.org/wow/mjcMap.zip why can't it find AceAddon`
`20:49.22`	`mjc`	`ignore ll the other map mods inside the folders`
`20:49.35`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: does onload fire for frames created with CreateFrame? I am not sure of that`
`20:49.39`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: Please remember to read the TODO in CG. Anyway, it'd be awesome if you could throw together some stance/form module for it ;) I'm off to watch a movie, bbl.`
`20:49.41`	`Thorgard`	`andreasg, woot, group growth direction was the only thing I missed in agUF. ;P`
`20:49.42`	`Xuerian`	`mikk: Still not wanting to treat it like a image, though I don't know what it SHOULD have on right click, I usually assume properties.`
`20:49.57`	`andreasg`	`Thorgard: yeah it works now =D`
`20:49.57`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: It may not, i'm not sure.`
`20:50.17`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: Keep in mind that template is changing, until the code is solidified i can't say much concrete`
`20:50.21`	`nevcairiel`	`mjc: your addon dirs are named <acestuff>-2.0, but in toc you only search for <acestuff>`
`20:50.36`	`mjc`	`ah. whoops :P`
`20:50.41`	`nevcairiel`	`read the framexml log`
`20:50.42`	`nevcairiel`	`:P`
`20:50.46`	`maia`	`cladhaire: as SecureRaidGroupHeader will accept a string as 'template' arg, does that mean we can't feed it with lua frames?`
`20:50.53`	`cladhaire`	`no you cannot.`
`20:50.55`	`cladhaire`	`at this point`
`20:50.58`	`Skyboat`	`mjc: just enabling a custom background texture to be set, that's all`
`20:51.01`	`mjc`	`nevcairiel: the what?`
`20:51.04`	`Mikk`	`Xuerian: weird. the type might have gotten cached or something. try test.svg (same image, copied to new name)`
`20:51.09`	`andreasg`	`also, must the width/height be set in the XML template or can I change it right after it has been created? (to apply user setttings like width)`
`20:51.13`	`maia`	`okay, so I guess it'll be added later.`
`20:51.28`	`nevcairiel`	`Logs\FrameXML.log, it contains messages if a file in your .toc cannot be found :p`
`20:51.37`	`cladhaire`	`maia: I dont suspect it will be added later.`
`20:51.44`	`maia`	`huh?`
`20:51.46`	`cladhaire`	`maia: There's no standard for creating a dynamic lua frame without a tempalte.`
`20:51.49`	`Mikk`	`cladhaire: hum? frames created via lua are named, too`
`20:52.05`	`Mikk`	`if you give them a name that is`
`20:52.12`	`cladhaire`	`yes, but thats not the issue.`
`20:52.16`	`Vallerius`	`nevcairiel: ok, so replacing the ChatFrameX globals appears to be a bad idea`
`20:52.18`	`mjc`	`nevcairiel: me = noob :P`
`20:52.21`	`Mikk`	`ah, pardon for being daft then =)`
`20:52.26`	`nevcairiel`	`Vallerius: i thought so`
`20:52.27`	`cladhaire`	`the template will only accept XML templates`
`20:52.35`	`Mikk`	`ah. bother.`
`20:52.44`	`cladhaire`	`because it uses CreateFrame to make them`
`20:52.50`	`maia`	`so all the stuff like :SetTexture, ;SetPoint, :SetWidth, :SetOrientation, ... cannot be used with a SecureRaidFrame?`
`20:52.53`	`Industrial`	`mjc: pong`
`20:52.55`	`cladhaire`	`and there is no concept of templating in lua`
`20:52.58`	`nevcairiel`	`do i have to understand that xml frame layout afterall?`
`20:53.04`	`Vallerius`	`nevcairiel: all of the existing CF/FCF code keeps trying to mess with the frames`
`20:53.07`	`andreasg`	`maia: not in combat`
`20:53.11`	`mjc`	`Industrial: any idea how I'd go about hiding the whole minimap?`
`20:53.12`	`Xuerian`	`Mikk: Seeing as I can't find the image again, even browsing through the folders, shift-reload changed nothing. If it's working for you, it's on my end`
`20:53.19`	`Mikk`	`cladhaire: Well, CreateFrame() should accept any frame imnsho, not just ones tagged as virtual =)`
`20:53.21`	`cladhaire`	`maia: Those all have XML alternatives.. and like I said, I can't give you much information until that code is solidified`
`20:53.25`	`Industrial`	`mjc: with the blizzard hotkey? =P`
`20:53.36`	`cladhaire`	`I suspect we will find there is a way to configure them as they are created.`
`20:53.37`	`maia`	`yeah, just trying to figure out what this would potentially mean`
`20:53.40`	`cladhaire`	`Mikk: heh, shrug`
`20:53.49`	`Mikk`	`Xuerian: gah. copied it in the wrong dir. sec.`
`20:53.51`	`mjc`	`Industrial: I want to hide all the minimap frames`
`20:54.05`	`mjc`	`and reparent aeverything that wants to attach to the minimap to my own frame`
`20:54.06`	`maia`	`and I'd prefer not having to go back to writing XML :)`
`20:54.07`	`Mikk`	`Xuerian: now`
`20:54.11`	`Industrial`	`you mean also the questtracker and endurance frame?`
`20:54.24`	`nevcairiel`	`Vallerius: we could create a full new frame, based on the FCF code, and register for the messages, like ChatFrame does. not using any existing functions. only that other addons which actually try to directly add text to ChatFrameX with AddMessage will fail.`
`20:54.26`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: do you think it will be possible to lets say, have an addon that lets the user set the frame width as a setting. And then have that width applied to the new frames after they are created by the anchor?`
`20:54.34`	`mjc`	`Industrial: no I'm setting those to UIParent`
`20:54.40`	`cladhaire`	`Mikk: If you want to make raid frames, you need to use XML for at least the template.`
`20:54.44`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: I just said that my gut says yes.`
`20:54.47`	`Kalamadi`	`Where did blizzard state that they're nerfing downranking heals?`
`20:54.48`	`nevcairiel`	`Vallerius: well not fail, but not get the text to us :)`
`20:54.52`	`Industrial`	`mjc: Minimap:Hide() MinimapBorder:Hide()`
`20:54.56`	`Industrial`	`or something`
`20:55.00`	`mjc`	`thanks`
`20:55.02`	`mjc`	`thought so`
`20:55.08`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: still, if it is in combat? Because then you're using SetWidth on a secure frame`
`20:55.17`	`maia`	`Kalamadi: in BC heals <lvl40 will not get the full +healing bonus`
`20:55.23`	`cladhaire`	`I don't know, i'm just telling you what I suspect.`
`20:55.24`	`mjc`	`nice`
`20:55.32`	`Vallerius`	`nevcairiel: so you mean any addon that does something like: DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("foo")? >_<`
`20:55.48`	`nevcairiel`	`well DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME is only an alias`
`20:55.51`	`nevcairiel`	`you can replace that`
`20:55.56`	`Borked\|Coolyo`	`dkknight: do u got a addon on wowace.com that remove the chat buttons and make it scrollable + when i "chat" (enter) it is above the chat frame ?`
`20:56.02`	`nevcairiel`	`but there are addons which use ChatFrame1:AddMessage`
`20:56.06`	`nevcairiel`	`for example`
`20:56.09`	`andreasg`	`well, I sure hope we will be able to manipulate the frame after it is created, even if it is in combat.`
`20:56.23`	`nevcairiel`	`guess we are back to square one`
`20:56.23`	`cladhaire`	`I suspect there will be a way to alter the frame AS its created`
`20:56.29`	`mjc`	`Industrial: going to write a yatlas style minimap replacement`
`20:56.31`	`cladhaire`	`thats the best i can say at the moment.`
`20:56.35`	`Mikk`	`cladhaire: Hummm.. and what if I make a dummy template that contains nothing and then paint stuff on top of that via Lua? =)`
`20:56.47`	`maia`	`cladhaire: but these frames can have any types of children, right? or would that break the secure model?`
`20:56.48`	`Xuerian`	`Mikk: http://imagesocket.com/view/dropdowne7d.jpg - That's what I get, but it's really not important for me, was just remarking, lol`
`20:56.54`	`cladhaire`	`Mikk: You won't be able to show/hide or do anything with those.`
`20:57.01`	`cladhaire`	`maia: What do you mean?`
`20:57.07`	`cladhaire`	`maia: There's no limitation on children`
`20:57.09`	`Vallerius`	`nevcairiel: actually... we can probably steal the existing globals. we'll just need to be careful about it. we'll have to hide the existing frames (and maybe unregister all their events), and not call the FloatingChatFrame_OnEvent/OnUpdate/etc stuff from our new frames`
`20:57.37`	`nevcairiel`	`somehow thats a evil hack :o`
`20:57.39`	`andreasg`	`maia: so I guess you can just have a blank frame in XML and then after the fframes are created you can make everything in lua`
`20:57.40`	`maia`	`cladhaire: well, then Mikk is right - one can create a rather empty unit frame and then do stuff like bars, borders etc as children of that frame`
`20:57.47`	`cladhaire`	`maia: No, they can't.`
`20:57.58`	`cladhaire`	`Not in the least`
`20:58.03`	`Mikk`	`Why though?`
`20:58.08`	`cladhaire`	`that would defeat the whole purpose of the protection.`
`20:58.15`	`cladhaire`	`Mikk: Because everything is locked in combat`
`20:58.15`	`Mikk`	`I mean... the template would have to be the thingy receiving the clicks`
`20:58.25`	`maia`	`yeah, thats obvious. I'm just trying to understand what may be done and what not`
`20:58.45`	`Mikk`	`But I don't see how that keeps me from having graphics on my own on top`
`20:58.50`	`Mikk`	`s/on/of/`
`20:58.50`	`cladhaire`	`you will need to create the frame in XML`
`20:58.51`	`cladhaire`	`period.`
`20:58.52`	`maia`	`e.g. :SetWidth() is not allowed, but :SetValue() is allowed for a bar (which obviously must be a child of that frame, right?)`
`20:58.55`	`cladhaire`	`I can promise you that, for righ tnow.`
`20:58.59`	`nevcairiel`	`Vallerius: if we remove the tabs, they lose the ability to actually open the menu, now we add a new button with our own menu, and hook the functions which try to mess up the layout.`
`20:59.11`	`Mikk`	`cladhaire: Yeah, we're agreeing that we need to create something that receives the clicks in XML.`
`20:59.11`	`cladhaire`	`You're asking for technical details that I can't give right now.`
`20:59.27`	`Mikk`	`What we're arguing is that there cannot be anything keeping us from painting whatever on top of the same screen area as that button`
`20:59.39`	`cladhaire`	`Mikk: I'm not sure how that will interact`
`20:59.46`	`cladhaire`	`Again, the code isn't done`
`20:59.52`	`cladhaire`	`so i cna't test`
`21:00.00`	`maia`	`cladhaire: I'm just trying to figure out how to write code to be able to update a health bar, change a border, show/hide an icon, update text etc in a secure raid frame. because this is what unit frames are about, right?`
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`21:00.19`	`cladhaire`	`maia: Yes, register for events, and do the same thing you do now.`
`21:00.21`	`cladhaire`	`THat doesn't change`
`21:00.42`	`Mikk`	`I'm going to go right ahead and assume that we can paint whatever on top of those secured frames. Show/hide whatever. But that the secured frame has to be the one receiving the clicks. And its actions and visibility cannot be toggled during combat.`
`21:00.55`	`cladhaire`	`Mikk: I would tend to agree with you`
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`21:01.11`	`maia`	`well then I don't get it. currently my unit frame doesnt contain much - but on top of it (as child) I have stuff like a health bar etc. Now previously you mentioned all this has to be done via XML inside the secure frame. thats what is confusing me`
`21:01.32`	`cladhaire`	`maia: I said the frame has to be in XML, you asked originally if we'd be able to take a lua functino, or frame name.`
`21:01.35`	`cladhaire`	`or someone did.`
`21:01.49`	`cladhaire`	`All i'm saying is the template will need to be the one creating the secure templates, from XML`
`21:01.52`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`21:01.56`	`Mikk`	`sounds like you only need to replace the bottom dummy with xml code then`
`21:02.09`	`cladhaire`	`you can pass it a template of "SecureUnitButton" if you want =)`
`21:02.15`	`cladhaire`	`err SecureUnitButtonTemplate`
`21:02.30`	`maia`	`okay, so the frame that will take clicks is e.g. 50x50px and doesnt contain anything. this is done via xml. as children this frame has a health bar, a text, some icons etc and chan be altered in combat. these can have any size but may not attempt to take clicks. right?`
`21:02.49`	`nevcairiel`	`So RaidFrames and UnitFrames, and even ActionBars will have to use XML again ?`
`21:02.59`	`andreasg`	`nevcairiel: for templates`
`21:03.06`	`cladhaire`	`maia: yes`
`21:03.07`	`andreasg`	`I already do that with aguf`
`21:03.10`	`Vallerius`	`nevcairiel want to take this to tells? the channel is getting quite busy`
`21:03.10`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: at least using the secure templates.`
`21:03.13`	`cladhaire`	`its not a big deal`
`21:03.19`	`cladhaire`	`thats just where you start`
`21:03.21`	`CIA-17`	`03flyflame * r13924 10BigWigs/ (Naxxramas/Gluth.lua ZG/Hakkar.lua): BigWigs: zhCN localization update`
`21:03.30`	`maia`	`cladhaire: well then the xml frame is rather empty, at least visually. all it does is registering for clicks.`
`21:03.34`	`nevcairiel`	`I know its not a big deal, but i liked it without any xml file :)`
`21:03.44`	`Mikk`	`haha`
`21:03.57`	`Mikk`	`Well. If we can feed the buggers SecurieUnitButtonTemplate, all is good =)`
`21:04.08`	`cladhaire`	`I suspect thats the case`
`21:04.15`	`nevcairiel`	`Vallerius: isnt it fun ? :) hrm am i registered ? looks like it, go ahead`
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`21:04.44`	`cladhaire`	`its just a small bridge to SecureActionButtonTemplate`
`21:06.16`	`maia`	`cladhaire: all SecureUnitButtonTemplate has in the xml is the OnClick definition. nothing more. no size, nothing. what am I missing?`
`21:06.16`	`andreasg`	`maia: it's a template, you set the size in your XML`
`21:06.31`	`Mikk`	`or lua`
`21:06.37`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: text options may be cleaner if you don't care about order, but it goes like this: With numerical keys they're used for sorting, and the value returned to set() is the string, not the key. This fucks over, for example set(key) self.qualitythreshold = key because key is actually \|cff0022FFRare, not (number)4. If you don't index it numerically it's sorted automatically, even keys "1" -> "7" get shuffled around according to their values -ins`
`21:06.37`	`cladhaire`	`maia: It inherits from anothe rtemplate.. like i just said.`
`21:06.55`	`andreasg`	`Mikk: or lua? Well... SetWidth might not work in combat so`
`21:07.01`	`Mikk`	`of course not`
`21:07.02`	`maia`	`hrm. this is confusing. I can only hope Blizzard posts a tiny unit frame addon demo`
`21:07.03`	`Mikk`	`nothing will =)`
`21:07.18`	`Mikk`	`but HOPEFULLY you're not in combat during P_E_W =)`
`21:07.18`	`Mikma`	`Penis:SetLength(30)`
`21:07.20`	`Mikma`	`doing!`
`21:07.32`	`Mikma`	`there's mega PEWPEW!`
`21:07.40`	`andreasg`	`Mikma.Penis:SetWidth(0)`
`21:07.41`	`Kalamadi`	`30 pixels in length?`
`21:07.46`	`cladhaire`	`maia: The PlayerFrame is a tiny unit frame demo.`
`21:07.47`	`cladhaire`	`or Nurfed`
`21:07.50`	`cladhaire`	`or CT`
`21:07.53`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`21:08.03`	`maia`	`theres a CT for 2.0.0?`
`21:08.10`	`cladhaire`	`Unit frames are simple, raid frames are more complex.`
`21:08.17`	`Mikma`	`andreasg: it's not the width, it's the speed of hips`
`21:08.19`	`cladhaire`	`maia: Kinda, half the stuff hasn't been recoded most of it works tho.`
`21:08.43`	`andreasg`	`btw, nurfed/aguf/discord is going to die if you can't set a width not specified in templats`
`21:08.53`	`cladhaire`	`FYI if you're using virtual button mappings, you need to include -, if you're using the straight numeric buttons, you HAVE to leave it out.`
`21:08.56`	`maia`	`cladhaire: then my proxy is hating me. last update on ctmod.net: 08/25/2006`
`21:09.00`	`cladhaire`	`andreasg: I'm running NUF on my account right now.`
`21:09.08`	`cladhaire`	`maia: its not posted there,`
`21:09.20`	`cncfanatics`	`ckknight, seems server crashed`
`21:09.22`	`maia`	`...its posted in the private BC forums, right?`
`21:09.29`	`cncfanatics`	`got logged out & cant log back in`
`21:09.30`	`andreasg`	`cladhaire: yes, but does it use a header that creates frames for it`
`21:09.31`	`ckknight`	`yep`
`21:09.33`	`cladhaire`	`authors aren't screaming there stuff because lots of stuff doesn't work.`
`21:09.38`	`maia`	`I need a BC account.`
`21:10.04`	`cncfanatics`	`BC server just crashed :p`
`21:10.11`	`cladhaire`	`cncfanatics: enUS is up`
`21:10.19`	`cncfanatics`	`EU just crashed :p`
`21:10.27`	`cncfanatics`	`gonna get some sleep`
`21:10.32`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`21:10.43`	`ckknight`	`good party ;-)`
`21:10.52`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: The "mysort" and "othersort" locals don't seem to pick up any values from the options tables, is there any way to make the "text" type sort it's validate optiosn by key instead of value?`
`21:10.54`	`mjc`	`is it possible to change the name of a frame?`
`21:10.59`	`cladhaire`	`mjc: no`
`21:11.07`	`Xuerian`	`s/osn/ons/`
`21:11.11`	`mjc`	`bah`
`21:11.18`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian, it's supposed to sort by value`
`21:11.40`	`ckknight`	`unless it's numerically indexed`
`21:11.43`	`mjc`	`how about automatically reparent anything created with a parent of a certain frame`
`21:11.47`	`ckknight`	`where it doesn't get sorted`
`21:12.16`	`Xuerian`	`If it's numerically indexed, the value is returned to set() instead of the key, or am I missing something big?`
`21:12.25`	`ckknight`	server's back up, cnc`sleeping
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`21:13.27`	`ckknight`	`there are no mobs`
`21:13.35`	`Mikma`	`only noovs`
`21:13.38`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian, if it's numerically indexed, it's treated as an array instead of a hash`
`21:13.39`	`Mikma`	`tpyo! noobs*`
`21:13.40`	cnc`sleeping	`lemme check`
`21:13.50`	`maia`	`ckknight: Kalamadi encountered a problem with AceOO, I'll bug him to bug you`
`21:14.12`	`Xuerian`	`Great, so there's no way to both force a display order AND get the key value =(... This is why I was using toggles, what I was doing just isn't possible with Text.`
`21:17.08`	`ckknight`	`sorry, guy`
`21:17.13`	`Xuerian`	`:P`
`21:17.22`	`Mikma`	`lol`
`21:17.28`	`Mikma`	`~emulate ckknight`
`21:17.35`	`purl`	`ACTION quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))`
`21:17.39`	`Xuerian`	`haha.`
`21:17.46`	`ckknight`	`well`
`21:17.49`	`ckknight`	`you know what time it is`
`21:17.53`	`ckknight`	`time to branch Ace2`
`21:17.58`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`21:17.58`	`Xuerian`	`Win :P`
`21:18.43`	`Industrial`	`nooeesss dewdropppp :(`
`21:19.19`	`deci`	`http://www.imagesocket.com/view/UIXArtd3f.jpg`
`21:19.20`	`deci`	`lol`
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`21:20.50`	`PProvost`	`vhaarr, have you considered bringing in AceModuleCore-2.0 for modules?`
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`21:28.50`	`ckknight`	`gah, I don't think I know how to branch properly`
`21:29.01`	`ckknight`	`I want to branch into /wowace/branches/Ace2/TBC/Ace2`
`21:29.08`	`mjc`	`WTF is the name of hte location thing on the minimap`
`21:29.10`	`ckknight`	`but it says /wowace/branches/Ace2/TBC doesn't exist :-P`
`21:30.03`	`nevcairiel`	`create it first`
`21:30.08`	`mjc`	`mkdir first`
`21:30.14`	`mjc`	`or import`
`21:30.49`	`nevcairiel`	`or do it right and direclty import into the TBC dir`
`21:30.57`	`nevcairiel`	`read the svn branch rules ffs`
`21:30.57`	`nevcairiel`	`:P`
`21:31.23`	`ckknight`	`pretty sure the rules say otherwise`
`21:31.24`	`ckknight`	`lemme check`
`21:31.58`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:32.11`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:32.11`	`ckknight`	`see`
`21:32.23`	`nevcairiel`	`that sucks in the commit messages tho`
`21:32.55`	`nevcairiel`	`you always get Ace2 * Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/bla.lua`
`21:32.58`	`nevcairiel`	`Ace2 double`
`21:32.59`	`nevcairiel`	`:(`
`21:33.01`	`nevcairiel`	`but whatever`
`21:33.26`	`ckknight`	`take it up with the creator of the rules.`
`21:33.36`	`nevcairiel`	`from the looks of the first line ..`
`21:35.16`	`Industrial`	`http://pastey.net/1555`
`21:35.17`	`Industrial`	`:\|`
`21:36.39`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r13925 10Ace2/: Ace2 - preparing TBC branch`
`21:36.58`	`nevcairiel`	`is "a" AceBased ?`
`21:37.25`	`Industrial`	`require assistance with that pastey, marked the error lines`
`21:37.45`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: No, its actually the opposite.. when we do branches/AddonName/BranchName/AddonName/AddonName.toc it shows up properly`
`21:37.50`	`Industrial`	`o shot pride mma on tv`
`21:37.51`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: LIke it just did in CIA =)`
`21:37.55`	`Industrial`	`shit*`
`21:37.56`	`Industrial`	`bbl`
`21:38.08`	`cladhaire`	`In the commit messages (i.e. web logs) it gets uglier`
`21:38.10`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`21:38.15`	`nevcairiel`	`hrm`
`21:38.19`	`nevcairiel`	`whatever :)`
`21:38.23`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r13926 10Ace2/Ace2/: Ace2 - Branching for TBC`
`21:38.23`	`cladhaire`	`indeed! =)`
`21:38.35`	`nevcairiel`	`see`
`21:38.37`	`nevcairiel`	`double Ace2`
`21:38.48`	`cladhaire`	`so, it shows you that its a branch (TBC) =)`
`21:38.59`	`nevcairiel`	`r13926 Ace2/Ace2/: <-- ? :o`
`21:39.15`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r13927 10AutoBar/AutoBar.toc:`
`21:39.15`	`CIA-17`	`Autobar:`
`21:39.15`	`CIA-17`	`remove old dewdrop lib`
`21:39.15`	`cladhaire`	`TBC * r13926 Ace2/Ace2/ Ace2`
`21:39.19`	`cladhaire`	`shruggles`
`21:39.27`	`ckknight`	`should I change it or what?`
`21:39.37`	`cladhaire`	`no, I think that's right`
`21:39.41`	`cladhaire`	`the wiki reigns supreme!`
`21:40.07`	`ckknight`	`the server I'm on has no NPCs`
`21:40.12`	`nevcairiel`	`Industrial: your update func gets called from outside your class, so it doesnt know "self" for some reason, either set "self = a" on the first line, or register the events onto the "a" object and not the idInterface`
`21:40.31`	`Skyboat`	`anyone know why CHAT_MSG_WHISPER is triggered twice if someone sends you a whisper?`
`21:40.54`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: What are the server names in EU? We're Hellfire and... something else.`
`21:41.02`	`ckknight`	`lemme check`
`21:41.19`	`nevcairiel`	`Twisting Nether and something, iirc`
`21:41.23`	`cladhaire`	`cool`
`21:41.27`	`cladhaire`	`new clique UI: http://imagelink.org/info/5408`
`21:41.45`	`nevcairiel`	`oSkined ?`
`21:41.55`	`nevcairiel`	`hm no doesnt look like oskin`
`21:41.55`	`cladhaire`	`i took a little bit of inspiration`
`21:42.03`	`cladhaire`	`but ran in a different direction =)`
`21:42.07`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r13928 10Ace2/Ace2/Ace2.toc: Ace2 - changed TOC to 20000, removed LoadOnDemand for testing`
`21:42.25`	`navv`	`whats the event mod you have running there`
`21:42.29`	`navv`	`on left side`
`21:42.30`	`ckknight`	`Tempest Keep (PvE), Bloodmyst (PvP)`
`21:42.31`	`cladhaire`	`thats devtools`
`21:42.36`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: Ooh those are fun =)`
`21:43.30`	`ckknight`	`I'm still confused on whether we keep using compost-style structures or switch to using standard lua tables`
`21:43.33`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, any insight?`
`21:43.39`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: Depends on the application,`
`21:43.48`	`cladhaire`	`in many cases we can drop back to tables`
`21:44.03`	`cladhaire`	`but anythign being called frequently shoudl keep a local table, and clear it manually (ideally without a functino call)`
`21:44.26`	`ckknight`	`that's what I figured`
`21:44.27`	`cladhaire`	`since # behaves properly, we can use both the hash and the array side efficiently now =)`
`21:44.39`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: porn clique`
`21:44.39`	`Borked\|Coolyo`	`what addon is needed for removing my chat buttons, make my chat frame scollable and make my type frame appears above ?`
`21:44.41`	`cladhaire`	`but each table creation will try to free (space needed * 1.2) or so`
`21:44.42`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: ?`
`21:44.48`	`cladhaire`	`Borked\|Coolyo: Prat =)`
`21:44.58`	`Mikma`	`<0041> <cladhaire> new clique UI: http://imagelink.org/info/5408`
`21:45.09`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: hehe.. lemme add some spells it looks better then`
`21:45.19`	`Borked\|Coolyo`	`cladhaire thx`
`21:45.23`	`Mikma`	`that's porn enough for me :D`
`21:45.47`	`Ghent`	`mikma, frightening :o`
`21:45.56`	`Ghent`	`boobs > *`
`21:45.58`	`cladhaire`	`do pet spells have ranks?`
`21:46.04`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`21:46.08`	`cladhaire`	`like an imp.. can they have mor ethan one fireball spell?`
`21:46.23`	`nevcairiel`	`i think it gets replaced like warrior spells`
`21:46.25`	`Ghent`	`warlock pets are a bit different than hunter pets`
`21:46.26`	`nevcairiel`	`but it has a rank`
`21:46.41`	`cladhaire`	`i just need to know whether hunter or warlock pets can cast lower rank spells`
`21:46.43`	`cladhaire`	`i suspect not.`
`21:46.49`	`nevcairiel`	`no i dont think so`
`21:46.50`	`navv`	`imps cannot select ranks`
`21:46.52`	`navv`	`or pets in general`
`21:46.55`	`navv`	`its always max rank`
`21:47.01`	`Ghent`	`imps can't, dunno about hunter pets`
`21:47.02`	`navv`	`and in spellbook, there's only 1 spell`
`21:47.04`	`cladhaire`	`thanks =)`
`21:47.08`	`cladhaire`	`that's all i needed to know`
`21:48.16`	`cladhaire`	`Hrm.. Not sure how I'm gonna handle pets now.. slouken ruined it on me =)`
`21:48.35`	`Tain`	`Down with Slouken!`
`21:49.23`	`Mikma`	`so everything's gonna change in BC then`
`21:49.32`	`Mikma`	`some weird SecureActionButtons etc`
`21:49.57`	`cladhaire`	`lots of stuff will be much easier, which is HOT.`
`21:50.05`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`21:50.11`	`ckknight`	`I can't assign to a tuple, can I?`
`21:50.11`	`cladhaire`	`you can bind like 25 keys on a hidden button and need NO actino buttons at all`
`21:50.20`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: Yeah you can, i.e. a,b,c = blah`
`21:50.31`	`ckknight`	`I mean, of infinite size`
`21:50.31`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: you can also do a,b,c = select(3, tuple)`
`21:50.43`	`ckknight`	`a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6, a7, a8, a9, a10, a11, a12, a13, a14, a15, a16, a17, a18, a19, a20 = _G.pcall(func, a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6, a7, a8, a9, a10, a11, a12, a13, a14, a15, a16, a17, a18, a19, a20)`
`21:50.53`	`cladhaire`	`you should't need that naymore.`
`21:50.54`	`cladhaire`	`use ...`
`21:50.57`	`ckknight`	`... = _G.pcall(func, ...)`
`21:51.06`	`ckknight`	`then it checks a1`
`21:51.08`	`cladhaire`	`no, you'd have to return it directly`
`21:51.15`	`ckknight`	`lemme paste the function`
`21:51.17`	`cladhaire`	`k`
`21:51.32`	`kergoth`	`sigh, lua needs a proper tuple type`
`21:51.38`	`kergoth`	`so we can assign ... a name, for nested functions`
`21:51.53`	`kergoth`	`plus immutable tuples could be used as table keys sanely, which would be cool`
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`21:52.06`	`ckknight`	`http://ace.pastey.net/1556`
`21:52.10`	`ckknight`	`that's what I have now`
`21:52.23`	`ckknight`	`and I don't think I know how to convert that to use tuples`
`21:52.27`	`chuckg`	`Is there a fast way to figure out which function called a function?`
`21:52.45`	`ckknight`	`I could use two functions, I suppose.`
`21:52.59`	`cladhaire`	`two functino probably make sense`
`21:53.08`	`cladhaire`	`otherwise you're still limiting yourself arbitrarily`
`21:53.09`	`nevcairiel`	`is there overloading in lua?`
`21:53.30`	`ckknight`	`overloading?`
`21:53.38`	`ckknight`	`operator overloading?`
`21:53.43`	`ckknight`	`or argument overloading?`
`21:54.02`	`kergoth`	`operators, yes, argument isnt needed`
`21:54.04`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`21:54.08`	`Mikma`	`well`
`21:54.26`	`Mikma`	`until i get my hands on BC (after release date) i can't "fix" bt2 :D`
`21:54.42`	`nevcairiel`	`how would i overload an operator in lua then ? :o`
`21:54.59`	`kergoth`	`you read PIL :P`
`21:55.08`	`nevcairiel`	`bah :P`
`21:55.15`	`kergoth`	`read about metatables.`
`21:55.33`	`ckknight`	`nevcairiel, AceOO has it built in`
`21:55.39`	`ckknight`	`for normal tables, you use metatables`
`21:55.46`	`ckknight`	`http://ace.pastey.net/1557`
`21:55.48`	`ckknight`	`that's what I came up with`
`21:56.12`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: http://imagelink.org/info/5409`
`21:56.54`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: I don't like the name func, but its local so it doesn't matter.. looks better and doesn't have the restrictions you did before.`
`21:56.55`	`mjc`	`hum`
`21:57.04`	`mjc`	`didn't we have the framexml stuff on the svn somewhere/`
`21:57.12`	`cladhaire`	`yeah its still there somewhere.`
`21:57.54`	`nevcairiel`	`oh noes, all spells are rank 0`
`21:58.05`	`cladhaire`	`hehe haven't fixed display yet.`
`21:58.08`	`cladhaire`	`working on functionality =)`
`21:58.38`	`nevcairiel`	`someone get us those api ptr's`
`21:59.01`	`nevcairiel`	`i dont care about any content whatsoever`
`21:59.13`	`mjc`	`I am`
`21:59.55`	`mjc`	`hopefully they won't block access to the minimap data`
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`22:01.31`	`mjc`	`is there a tutorial on creating frames w/ XML somewhere?`
`22:03.56`	`cladhaire`	`~fara`
`22:03.58`	`Mikma`	`no`
`22:03.58`	`cladhaire`	`~webeddie`
`22:04.11`	`cladhaire`	`hrm, purl was the ony link i had to the fara one =)`
`22:04.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`is something wrong with one of the svn mirrors? i keep getting svn: No such revision 13928`
`22:04.26`	`cladhaire`	`Arrowmaster: Then yes, Gimme a sec`
`22:04.51`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r13929 10Ace2/Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - updated for lua 5.1`
`22:04.52`	`mjc`	`cladhaire: are they not all syncing from the commit hook?`
`22:04.54`	`Mikma`	`fara's tutorial is good actually`
`22:05.09`	`cladhaire`	`mjc: One of them is locked.`
`22:05.14`	`mjc`	`ah`
`22:05.32`	`mjc`	`found fara's tutorial. thanks`
`22:06.51`	`cladhaire`	`Arrowmaster: Thanks for the report.. syncing now.`
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`22:07.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`fyi ErrorMoster looks like it needs some lua 5.1 updates incase anybody wants to use it in the beta`
`22:10.10`	`ckknight`	`would it be more efficient to do func(select(i, ...)) or func((select(i, ...)))?`
`22:11.03`	`cladhaire`	`what are the extra parens for?`
`22:11.15`	`cladhaire`	`the extra parens cut you down to 1 parameter`
`22:11.37`	`ckknight`	`right`
`22:11.44`	`ckknight`	`that's all`
`22:11.48`	`cladhaire`	`oh okay =)`
`22:11.59`	`cladhaire`	`well the first send all parms.. the second only sends one.`
`22:16.14`	`maia`	`" immutable tuples " - you know you're confusing us. :)`
`22:16.19`	`CIA-17`	`03nimbal 07Nimbal * r13930 10Buffalo/Buffalo/Buffalo.lua: Buffalo (branch): working on extra buff frames`
`22:17.10`	`mjc`	`lol @ buffalo`
`22:18.34`	`CIA-17`	`03laric * r13931 10AoFHeal/AoFHeal.lua:`
`22:18.34`	`CIA-17`	`AoFHeal:`
`22:18.34`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed profiles`
`22:24.55`	`mjc`	`hum`
`22:25.20`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, just wonder which is faster, or whether it doesn't matter`
`22:25.23`	`ckknight`	`gonna do a test`
`22:25.38`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: No, I haven't.`
`22:26.01`	`Saroz`	`whats the idea behind Buffalo?`
`22:26.01`	`yacoob`	`ckknight, why profiles loading are borked in ace?`
`22:26.10`	`ckknight`	`English?`
`22:26.22`	`ckknight`	`I don't know, though`
`22:26.23`	`yacoob`	`ckknight, the 'load profile' option is disabled`
`22:26.37`	`yacoob`	`although I have settings saved for other classes or characters`
`22:26.48`	`Borked\|Coolyo`	`is there a enemy castbar out there on wowace ?`
`22:26.56`	`yacoob`	`Borked\|Coolyo, antagonist`
`22:26.57`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r13932 10ErrorMonster/ErrorMonster.lua: ErrorMonster: Use pairs(...).`
`22:26.59`	`mjc`	`I've always had problems with profiles`
`22:27.02`	`Borked\|Coolyo`	`yacoob thx`
`22:27.11`	`Mikma`	`assclowns`
`22:27.12`	`yacoob`	`ckknight, should I file a bug with flyspray or on wowi?`
`22:27.17`	`mjc`	`99.99% of my fubar mods don't use the profile I set them to use`
`22:27.19`	`ckknight`	`I don't know`
`22:27.23`	`Mikma`	`why does everyone update their addons to BC eventho it's not out yet`
`22:27.36`	`yacoob`	`Mikma, bleeding edge :)`
`22:27.38`	`mjc`	`Mikma: bartender always uses the default one instead of the character specific ones`
`22:27.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`less things to fix when it does come out`
`22:28.03`	`mjc`	`Mikma: being prepared = win`
`22:28.03`	`Mikma`	`mjc: sad panda`
`22:28.33`	`mjc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:28.42`	`mjc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:28.52`	`mjc`	`why doesn't it get set?`
`22:28.56`	`yacoob`	`ckknight, well, I thought you'd be the one most oriented in the matter`
`22:29.00`	`mjc`	`there's no bg at all`
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`22:29.11`	`Mikma`	`mjc: put the file in the folder xD`
`22:29.15`	`mjc`	`it is.`
`22:29.26`	`Mikk`	`restart wow`
`22:29.55`	`mjc`	`oh`
`22:29.58`	`Mikma`	`lol`
`22:29.59`	`mjc`	`fucking webserver`
`22:30.09`	`mjc`	`it calls them text`
`22:30.16`	`mjc`	`mime type should be image/targa`
`22:30.19`	`ckknight`	`do we even have flyspray anymore?`
`22:30.26`	`ckknight`	`I heard it went away`
`22:30.39`	`Laric`	`cladhaire is backdrop out of praid for good or?`
`22:30.47`	`[GsoZ]Bordeaux`	`some question, is it really necessary to write a mail to wowace-svn-requests, or can i find the right person here to get it?`
`22:31.15`	`yacoob`	`then I'll use wowi`
`22:31.34`	`mjc`	`kergoth: didn't smm load skins out of a skins dir once?`
`22:31.46`	`mjc`	`write the mail`
`22:32.19`	`[GsoZ]Bordeaux`	`mjc: ok, already done`
`22:33.04`	`mjc`	`Mikma: shouldn't a /rl be enough?`
`22:33.13`	`Mikma`	`mjc: no if you don't have the texture loaded`
`22:33.31`	`mjc`	`I restarted anyways and still didn't get anything`
`22:33.51`	`mjc`	`oh`
`22:33.53`	`mjc`	`xml parse failure`
`22:33.55`	`mjc`	`XD`
`22:35.01`	`yacoob`	`ckknight, http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=54&a=viewbug&bugid=2302 - English enough?`
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`22:35.29`	`alcaras`	`if i wanted to write my own tbc-compatible unitframes, where should i start?`
`22:35.41`	`Mikk`	`read the forums`
`22:35.45`	`Mikk`	`that's the best we can do atm`
`22:35.51`	`Mikk`	`we're all kinda new to it =)`
`22:35.56`	`alcaras`	`<nod>`
`22:36.05`	`yacoob`	`alcaras, I'd recommend 'waiting' :)`
`22:36.19`	`Laric`	`I wanna find a tbc key.. but I guess I am shit out of luck :(`
`22:36.27`	`andreasg`	`Laric: 300 bucks on ebay`
`22:36.46`	`andreasg`	`alcaras: afaik the templates aren't done yet`
`22:36.49`	`Laric`	`so not worth 300 bucks on ebay to start coding addons`
`22:37.07`	`andreasg`	`Laric: I'm going to have to agree with you there`
`22:37.10`	`andreasg`	`but it still sucks`
`22:37.11`	`evl`	`Are any of the old factions relevant in TBC?`
`22:37.21`	`alcaras`	`no evl`
`22:37.24`	`ggilbert_`	`nope`
`22:37.25`	`evl`	`I am thinking of getting exalted with Cenarion Circle but not if the faction is irrelevant`
`22:37.38`	`evl`	`So it's not worth it?`
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`22:37.42`	`ggilbert_`	`Cenarian Circle is replaced with Cenarian Expedition`
`22:37.47`	`Laric`	`I am only interested in a wow 2.0 server... tbc content can surely wait until release for my part`
`22:37.53`	`andreasg`	`evl: the rewards you can see now is what you can get`
`22:38.05`	`ggilbert_`	`Brood of Norzdomo gets replaced with Keepers of Time`
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`22:38.22`	`Tekkub`	`I'm not the one that picked the branch naming scheme, twas clad`
`22:38.38`	`Tekkub`	`I wanted /branches/AddonName/DevName/AddonName.toc`
`22:39.14`	`evl`	`okay`
`22:39.24`	`evl`	`so farming like fucking hell for earthstrike is a waste fo time`
`22:39.27`	`yacoob`	`ggilbert_, the values remains? Or we start at 0?`
`22:39.31`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: Functional icons on Execute, Range, Text, Group, and Header fields, isRadio on Toggle(see PoC for reason), patch: http://xuerian.net/dewdrop_icons_radio.patch Icons PoC: http://imagesocket.com/view/dewdropicons_poc4b4.jpg Toggle isRadio PoC: http://imagesocket.com/view/dewdropradio_poc8a9.jpg`
`22:39.32`	`alcaras`	`yes evl`
`22:39.37`	`evl`	`Thanks :P`
`22:39.40`	`alcaras`	`considering you get a better trinket as a level 62 quest reward`
`22:39.46`	`ggilbert_`	`yacoob: start over at neutral`
`22:39.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`how are the factions 'replaced' i thought they were just new factions`
`22:39.57`	`yacoob`	`ggilbert_, haha, what a joke for all those who farmed :DDDD`
`22:40.12`	`CIA-17`	`03pprovost * r13933 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ (13 files in 6 dirs): Initial import - this is the most naive implementation possible, but it does work. :)`
`22:40.32`	`ggilbert_`	`Arrowmaster: replaced in the sense that you're raising rep with the same people with a different name :)`
`22:40.33`	`PProvost`	`Oh crap. It added the externals. Damn.`
`22:40.42`	`cladhaire`	`Laric: Its out until someone puts it back in`
`22:40.43`	`yacoob`	`all factions are replaced?`
`22:40.46`	`ggilbert_`	`no`
`22:40.47`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: Dpm`
`22:40.49`	`vhaarr`	`err`
`22:40.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`but its still a different faction right?`
`22:40.57`	`ggilbert_`	`right`
`22:40.58`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: Don't add externals for Compost and Gratuity.`
`22:41.03`	`Laric`	`cladhaire oki :)`
`22:41.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`so then that doesnt mean its useless to raise those factions now`
`22:41.15`	`Laric`	`will have a look at it then.. miss the nice backdrop :P`
`22:41.15`	`PProvost`	`I won't`
`22:41.25`	`evl`	`Seems like Brood of Noz is the only faction worth farming for`
`22:41.47`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: They're in CG anyway, so adding them as a external in a CG plugin is unecessary.`
`22:42.00`	`PProvost`	`Yep`
`22:42.06`	`PProvost`	`They were just copied over from my template`
`22:42.12`	`vhaarr`	`right`
`22:42.24`	`PProvost`	`Any thought about making CG implement AceModuleCore-2.0?`
`22:42.35`	`yacoob`	`ggilbert_, is there any place one can read up on that?`
`22:42.40`	`yacoob`	`I want to scare guildies :D`
`22:42.47`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: Why?`
`22:43.09`	`ggilbert_`	`yacoob: Not really. Was just something I saw when I ran into the zones`
`22:43.31`	`PProvost`	`Makes it crystal clear when something is a module. Potentially lets you add ui/config support for loaded modules.`
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`22:44.15`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: I'm never going to add ui/config support for loaded modules in CG.`
`22:44.46`	`vhaarr`	`If people want to make modules, that's cool, but don't expect me to add bloat to CG to support your options.`
`22:44.52`	`vhaarr`	`Feel free to make a ClosetGnome_Config addon.`
`22:46.18`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: The way it is now, CG modules don't need any config anyway.`
`22:46.33`	`vhaarr`	`Make a set named "Mount" and that's it.`
`22:47.12`	`yacoob`	`hm, what does closetgnome do?`
`22:47.17`	`evl`	`CG rocks`
`22:47.30`	`evl`	`it remembers what you had on or parts of it and allows you to switch between those sets`
`22:48.09`	`yacoob`	`hm, so perhaps I can replace outfitter with that?`
`22:48.22`	`CIA-17`	`03pprovost * r13934 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ (5 files in 2 dirs):`
`22:48.22`	`CIA-17`	`ClosetGnome_Switcher:`
`22:48.22`	`CIA-17`	`- Deleted accidentally added Libs`
`22:48.22`	`CIA-17`	`- Created Externals for Libs`
`22:48.22`	`CIA-17`	`- Added svn keywords`
`22:48.57`	`PProvost`	`yacoob, I just did. :)`
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`22:49.54`	`yacoob`	`PProvost, I'll test it in a moment :)`
`22:50.04`	`PProvost`	`Understand that it isn't Outfitter`
`22:50.19`	`yacoob`	`where's the keyword in this sentence?`
`22:50.31`	`PProvost`	`Outfitter = CG + CG modules (some of which don't exist yet)`
`22:51.00`	`yacoob`	`Hm? zone switching is there, mounted too, what else?`
`22:51.23`	`kergoth`	`vhaarr: itd help to document it in some fashion. its unclear that you have to create sets with certain names. imho, every single cg addon that does such a thing should have a config option to let you override the name of the set. ClosetGnome_BigWigs already lets you do that via aliasing.`
`22:51.43`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: Indeed, I agree, thanks.`
`22:51.56`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: I added it to the BW module and I plan on fixing the rest.`
`22:52.03`	`kergoth`	`slick, thanks`
`22:52.20`	`vhaarr`	`yacoob: Also consider getting SwapMagic.`
`22:52.28`	`mjc`	`multiple aliases would be good.`
`22:52.36`	`PProvost`	`What is SwapMagic?`
`22:52.38`	`kergoth`	`swapmagic rocks.`
`22:52.51`	`vhaarr`	`It was created by another Outfitter -> CG converter.`
`22:52.55`	`yacoob`	`what is it good for?`
`22:52.56`	`vhaarr`	`Since it's lacking in CG.`
`22:53.02`	`kergoth`	`it does the thing that itemrack does, wher eif you hold alt down and mouse over a slot in your character page, it pops out the items you can equip there`
`22:53.05`	`vhaarr`	`!notes SwapMagic`
`22:53.10`	`vhaarr`	`ah.`
`22:53.17`	`vhaarr`	`Maybe he was a ItemRack -> CG guy.`
`22:53.18`	`kergoth`	`outfitter does it too, just via dragging the item out of the slot`
`22:53.19`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`22:53.22`	`vhaarr`	`okay`
`22:53.23`	`kergoth`	`rather than holding alt down`
`22:53.26`	`vhaarr`	`I've never tried either mod.`
`22:53.27`	`PProvost`	`DIg it.`
`22:54.05`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: Multiple aliases?`
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`22:54.34`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: Fire Resist -> Firemaw, Ragnaros, Vaelastraz`
`22:54.42`	`vhaarr`	`It already does that?`
`22:54.53`	`Aquam`	`Is there anywhere a documentation on ag_uf layout ?`
`22:54.55`	`vhaarr`	`You alias a boss to a set.`
`22:54.56`	`PProvost`	`SwapMagic not on SVN or files... drag.`
`22:55.00`	`vhaarr`	`It is.`
`22:55.10`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: You're blind.`
`22:55.15`	`PProvost`	`haha`
`22:55.16`	`PProvost`	`could be`
`22:55.21`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: maybe I want to alias a set to a different name, for any other purpose`
`22:55.42`	`PProvost`	`vhaarr: You're rude. We've all got our problems. :)`
`22:55.52`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: :D`
`22:55.56`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: You alias the boss to the set, I don't see what other mappings you'd need?`
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`22:56.28`	`PProvost`	`Ahhh... I was looking for CG_SwapMagic. Assumed (wrongly) it was an addon for CG.`
`22:56.31`	`vhaarr`	`So you'd alias Firemaw -> FireRes, Ragnaros -> FireRes, -> Vaelastraz -> FireRes.`
`22:56.37`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: Ah, no, it's not.`
`22:56.40`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: I understand that`
`22:56.49`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: What's missing then?`
`22:57.07`	`Industrial`	`nevcairiel: thanks`
`22:57.13`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r13935 10Ace2/Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: AceOO - updated for lua 5.1`
`22:57.22`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: nevermind, I'll mention it again when I'm done fixing ohnoes later on today`
`22:57.34`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: okay, I don't understand`
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`22:58.06`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: I'm going to bed soon, feel free to privmsg me here or add it to the CG TODO.`
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`22:58.15`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: I will :)`
`22:58.53`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r13936 10Ace2/Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: AceAddon - updated for lua 5.1`
`22:59.11`	Funkeh`	`could someone recommit BW pretty plese? :P its missing its libs`
`22:59.35`	`vhaarr`	`I thought cladhaire fixed that by delaying the ZIP script 30 seconds.`
`22:59.50`	Funkeh`	`really? Oo`
`23:00.03`	Funkeh`	`just dl'd latest version and has 0 libs :(`
`23:00.09`	`mjc`	`emacs takes insanely long to compile`
`23:01.05`	`vhaarr`	Funkeh`: Indeed.
`23:01.09`	`yacoob`	`and is there CG fubar plugin?`
`23:01.17`	`vhaarr`	`Yes, it's builtin.`
`23:01.21`	`yacoob`	`aha`
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`23:02.12`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r13937 10BigWigs/Extras/CustomBar.lua: BigWigs: Committing random cleanups in an attempt to kick-start the ZIP script again.`
`23:02.19`	`Ghent`	`vi baby`
`23:02.25`	Funkeh`	`thanks bud`
`23:02.29`	`vhaarr`	`np`
`23:02.36`	`vhaarr`	`remember to wait for the zip`
`23:02.43`	`vhaarr`	`don't download it while it's zipping`
`23:02.46`	`vhaarr`	`I did that once :P`
`23:02.51`	Funkeh`	`aye learnt that the hard way :P`
`23:04.21`	`restored`	`does ag unitframes have the option to display the targets damage taken ? as Perl has.`
`23:05.18`	`mjc`	`yes`
`23:06.14`	`yacoob`	`lesse this gnome...`
`23:06.27`	Funkeh`	`has libs now, great`
`23:06.52`	`yacoob`	`hm, nothing to replace metamap? :>`
`23:07.01`	`yacoob`	`(instance maps + notes)`
`23:08.20`	`mjc`	`I'm working on a complete map replacement but god knows how long it'll take`
`23:08.22`	`Industrial`	`bet i could do that way better`
`23:08.23`	`Industrial`	`but i wont`
`23:08.24`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`23:08.34`	`Industrial`	`mjc: hmmm`
`23:08.44`	`mjc`	`starting with a new minimap frame and whatnot`
`23:08.59`	`Industrial`	`mjc: how about the mon-ee :P send to idbank :D`
`23:09.04`	`mjc`	`heh`
`23:09.10`	`mjc`	`sure`
`23:09.24`	`Industrial`	`ta`
`23:09.31`	`mjc`	`bong`
`23:10.17`	`Industrial`	`o shit thats alot`
`23:10.18`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`23:10.37`	`Industrial`	`http://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_101506_010908fde.jpg`
`23:10.41`	`Industrial`	`YES PINK!`
`23:11.30`	`mjc`	`pink what`
`23:11.50`	`mjc`	`oh`
`23:11.51`	`mjc`	`pink hair`
`23:11.52`	`mjc`	`haha`
`23:12.33`	`yacoob`	`atlas (+loot +quest) + yatlas + pinpoint < metamap ?`
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`23:12.47`	`Industrial`	`dont need loot and quest`
`23:12.51`	`Industrial`	`and yatlas`
`23:13.30`	`yacoob`	`what do you mean, "dont need"? atlas has it built in, or you don't need it? :D`
`23:13.32`	`mjc`	`my replacement will be yatlas + instances kind of thing`
`23:13.51`	`kergoth`	`the new yatlas stuff is gonna rock`
`23:14.01`	`Xuerian`	`mjc: You realize that Atlas is moving to the YAtlas core, and is going to use minimap maps for it? o_0`
`23:14.05`	`kergoth`	`wish end would allow anonymous checkouts of the svn`
`23:14.11`	`CIA-17`	`03caldar * r13938 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.toc libs/): Mendeleev: Added AceDebug to toc and libraries`
`23:14.12`	`mjc`	`Xuerian: it'll still suck :)`
`23:14.17`	`Industrial`	`yacoob: atlasloot is a different addon`
`23:14.27`	`Industrial`	`its totally unneeded to have that ingame`
`23:14.29`	`Xuerian`	`Go for it then, by all means :P`
`23:14.38`	`mjc`	`Industrial: prety helpful for me`
`23:14.40`	`Industrial`	`you know what you are going for before the raid, and you can look it up on websites`
`23:14.40`	`kergoth`	`i like in game boss loot tables`
`23:14.43`	`kergoth`	`just make them LoD`
`23:14.44`	`Industrial`	`wow-loot.com ?`
`23:14.49`	`kergoth`	`no point loading it until you need it`
`23:15.12`	`mjc`	`Industrial: lazy`
`23:15.36`	`Xuerian`	`Industrial: You might know. but you can't A: Link ingame from sites. B: Try on things from sites.:)`
`23:15.48`	`Xuerian`	`s/know/know about the items/`
`23:15.50`	`yacoob`	`matter of choice, I'd say`
`23:15.56`	`Xuerian`	`But necessary? no`
`23:16.14`	`Industrial`	`Xuerian: ludwig`
`23:16.15`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`23:16.35`	`Xuerian`	`Industrial: ...?`
`23:16.39`	`kergoth`	`i want a good in game loot wishlist`
`23:16.41`	`Industrial`	`so theres absolutely no need to have all that table making and item data crap in lua :P`
`23:16.45`	`kergoth`	`or an in game notepad that can hold itemlinks`
`23:16.54`	`Industrial`	`Xuerian: its a good item search addon that uses your game cache`
`23:16.57`	`Xuerian`	`TinyPad with itemlinks would rock.`
`23:17.06`	`kergoth`	`Industrial: uh, fyi, mendy has loot data`
`23:17.11`	`kergoth`	`:P`
`23:17.12`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r13939 10Ace2/Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: AceConsole - updated for lua 5.1`
`23:17.14`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: what's with the self:Print`
`23:17.21`	`kergoth`	`Xuerian: indeed`
`23:17.34`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: which one?`
`23:17.37`	`Industrial`	`kergoth: how, I mean.. like ludwig? :P`
`23:17.45`	`mjc`	`blah blah blah not released yet`
`23:17.45`	`kergoth`	`?`
`23:18.21`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: I got forum posts about CG that I don't want yet.`
`23:18.36`	`mjc`	`so ignore them :)`
`23:18.45`	`kergoth`	`most boss loot addons dont hold all the item tooltips in their data, like lootlink. they just hold the itemids that are dropped by each boss with drop rates`
`23:18.52`	`yacoob`	`is pinpoint working well?`
`23:18.52`	`kergoth`	`which isnt terrible, resource wise`
`23:19.02`	`kergoth`	`afaik`
`23:19.29`	`Xuerian`	`The exception in scope here is AtlasLoot's Naxx tables, which are tooltip data`
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`23:19.51`	`yacoob`	`Oh, btw. Is there some addon for AH, to quickly search for specific item(s)?`
`23:19.59`	`yacoob`	`apart from auctioneer saved searches`
`23:20.24`	`evl`	`Bleh'`
`23:20.30`	`evl`	`I need an addon that remembers where I like to put my items :P`
`23:21.06`	`phyber`	`yacoob: AHFavorites on the SVN`
`23:21.16`	`*** join/#wowace Progman (n=Progman2@p5091F2C0.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`23:21.17`	`phyber`	`it's an old Ace1 addon. I'll be updating it to Ace2 soon.`
`23:21.22`	`Ghent`	`someone needs to rewrite Possessions with Ace2`
`23:21.27`	`Ghent`	`that'll take care of that :P`
`23:21.30`	`phyber`	`that's why I imported it, just didn't get around to updating yet.`
`23:21.41`	`phyber`	`Ghent: what does Possessions do?`
`23:21.48`	`mjc`	`asdjkhsk`
`23:21.52`	`yacoob`	`phyber, mhm. And do you know anything that will present all searches at once, in one window?`
`23:22.05`	`kergoth`	`PProvost: in closetgnome_switcher, dont blindly switch to Normal when the buff is lost. remember the set they had before the switch occurred when the buff was gained, and restore that`
`23:22.07`	`kergoth`	`PProvost: imo`
`23:22.17`	`Ghent`	`phyber, keeps track of the location of all your items`
`23:22.20`	`Ghent`	`it's searchable`
`23:22.26`	`Ghent`	`goes across alts, etc`
`23:22.35`	`phyber`	`oh, a gatherer type thing.`
`23:22.39`	`phyber`	`?`
`23:23.13`	`Ghent`	`uhm, not in the sense that you mean I think`
`23:23.14`	`phyber`	`n/m, saw a screenshot.`
`23:23.18`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r13940 10Ace2/Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: AceAddon - fixed old ...`
`23:23.28`	`yacoob`	`btw, funny thing - ToFu hooks on oCB or Chronometer. But with first one bar fills, with other - depletes :D`
`23:23.47`	`phyber`	`that is pretty neat. but there's too much GUI for me to tackle, i think :)`
`23:24.00`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: what were those improvements yo uwanted for ohnoes? :/ sorry`
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`23:24.12`	`mjc`	`something for BGs`
`23:24.13`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: err :P`
`23:24.14`	`mjc`	`and something else`
`23:24.15`	`vhaarr`	`ah`
`23:24.24`	`vhaarr`	`ah no`
`23:24.26`	`vhaarr`	`hm`
`23:24.32`	`vhaarr`	`don't care about BG's`
`23:24.34`	`mjc`	`rosterlib?`
`23:24.42`	`vhaarr`	`I think it was just 1 thing`
`23:24.55`	`vhaarr`	`Don't do ohnoes if your current target is an enemy player.`
`23:25.25`	`vhaarr`	`At first I suggested BGs but then I changed to current target instead.`
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`23:25.30`	`vhaarr`	`Since it'll work outside BG's.`
`23:26.06`	`mjc`	`hum, wouldn't it be better to scan the aggro list and check that nothing that is aggroing on you is NPC ?`
`23:26.24`	`mjc`	`since if you are getting hit by something that is going to cause dura damage you'll probably want to ohnoes`
`23:26.38`	`mjc`	`Mikk: doesn't work on most mice`
`23:26.42`	`Mikk`	`like .. oh .. scrolling raid targets with ctrl+mousewheel?`
`23:26.44`	`Mikk`	`o.O`
`23:26.57`	`Mikk`	`why in the name of $deity wouldn't it work? o.O`
`23:27.01`	`mjc`	`50% of mice don't register the mousewheel event correctly`
`23:27.26`	`mjc`	`same reason 50% of keyboards won't let you hit two non-modifier keys at the same time`
`23:27.31`	`kergoth`	`mjc: scanning the aggro list would probably be best, but might be more complex than the addon should get.. unless theres a lib that does that for you already`
`23:27.42`	`*** part/#wowace Progman (n=Progman2@p5091F2C0.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`23:27.44`	`Mikk`	`mjc: so if i'm holding a key down, i simply don't get mousewheel events or something?`
`23:27.46`	`mjc`	`Xuerian: only a little`
`23:27.47`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r13941 10Ace2/Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: AceDB - updated for lua 5.1`
`23:27.49`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: Nah, it's too advanced, I say just check \|if UnitExists("target") and UnitIsPlayer("target") and UnitIsEnemy("player", "target") then return end\|`
`23:28.01`	`mjc`	`Mikk: no the key event alternates`
`23:28.04`	`Xuerian`	`mjc: Lol. Just having fun :p`
`23:28.24`	`Mikk`	`oh.. i didn't mean mouse keys, mjc`
`23:28.29`	`Mikk`	`i meant ctrl/alt/shift + mousewheel`
`23:28.38`	`mjc`	`oh`
`23:28.48`	`mjc`	`that's different :)`
`23:28.58`	`Mikk`	`yeah - i thought it sounded improbable that it wouldn't work =)`
`23:29.39`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: good point. that works`
`23:30.16`	`Wobin`	`what's up?`
`23:30.42`	`CIA-17`	`03mjc * r13942 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ (. ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua):`
`23:30.42`	`CIA-17`	`r15234@powerbook: mjc \| 2006-10-14 19:30:23 -0400`
`23:30.43`	`CIA-17`	`ClosetGnome_OhNoes: check if current target is a player before taking gear off.`
`23:30.47`	`PProvost`	`kergoth, I know. That isn't a real impl.`
`23:30.53`	`mjc`	`wtf`
`23:30.57`	`PProvost`	`I'm working on the real thing now.`
`23:30.59`	`mjc`	`kergoth: svk just did that`
`23:31.01`	`kergoth`	`PProvost: oh okay, proof of concept`
`23:31.04`	`PProvost`	`yeah`
`23:31.16`	`Wobin`	`whatcha trying to do?`
`23:31.18`	`PProvost`	`Just wanted to make sure I could "drive" CG`
`23:31.20`	`kergoth`	`mjc: it does that when it merges. use svk push --verbatim instead of svk push`
`23:31.26`	`mjc`	`ah`
`23:31.36`	`kergoth`	`PProvost: well thats cool then, i was hoping someone would do that, for things like shadowform`
`23:31.40`	`mjc`	`any way to auto verbatim? :P`
`23:31.45`	`kergoth`	`not sure`
`23:31.59`	`mjc`	`vhaarr, cladhaire: sorry. ;p`
`23:32.05`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`23:32.23`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: The commit message is fine :)`
`23:32.24`	`Mikk`	`Hummmmmm... for a healer, the current target is almost always a player`
`23:32.33`	`Mikk`	`(re OhNoes)`
`23:32.48`	`PProvost`	`kergoth, yep, thats the plan`
`23:32.54`	`Xuerian`	`I dunno, I almost always target the boss mob or current target and watch ToT/ToTT`
`23:33.03`	`vhaarr`	`Mikk: The commit message isn't accurate wrt the impl.`
`23:33.10`	`vhaarr`	`Mikk: It also checks if it's an enemy player.`
`23:33.39`	`Mikk`	`oh.`
`23:33.39`	`Mikk`	`yeah ok that's good.`
`23:33.52`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r13943 10Ace2/Ace2/AceDebug-2.0/AceDebug-2.0.lua: AceDebug - updated for lua 5.1`
`23:34.22`	`Wobin`	`!info ClosetGnome_OhNoes`
`23:34.28`	`Mikk`	`hm. should start a wiki howto on upgrading addons for tbc`
`23:34.45`	`[POW]Arjor`	`guys i have a problem. i'm trying to change the number of rows in Bartender2 to 9 and it keep reseting to 12`
`23:34.50`	`[POW]Arjor`	`any idea what can i do?`
`23:34.56`	`Mikk`	`[POW]Arjor: poke Mikma`
`23:34.59`	`Mikk`	`he wrote it =)`
`23:35.19`	`Mikma`	`:P`
`23:35.27`	`vhaarr`	`Actually, that sounds like it might be my fault.`
`23:35.31`	`vhaarr`	`But I already ran away.`
`23:37.12`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: you know what...`
`23:37.24`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: someone has changed the rows on Bartender2 to be a slider again`
`23:38.22`	`vhaarr`	`Wasn't me, then.`
`23:38.28`	`PProvost`	`vhaarr, how about a public function for accessing the available sets?`
`23:38.28`	`mjc`	`FUCKING emacs has been bootstrapping all FUCKING day.`
`23:38.32`	`kergoth`	`lol`
`23:38.39`	`PProvost`	`vim ftw`
`23:38.47`	`mjc`	`PProvost: takes just as long to compile`
`23:38.52`	`PProvost`	`haha`
`23:39.03`	`PProvost`	`vim precompiled binaries ftw`
`23:39.10`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: ClosetGnome.db.char.set[name] = { [slotId] = "ItemName", ... }`
`23:39.25`	`PProvost`	`Yeah, but it is dirty to be digging in someone else's privates...`
`23:39.29`	`vhaarr`	`:D`
`23:39.30`	`mjc`	`there's something to be said for actually using the source of y our open source editor.`
`23:39.33`	`PProvost`	`I can do that, but I didn't want to. :)`
`23:39.37`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: What do you need it for?`
`23:39.42`	`vhaarr`	`I don't think you do.`
`23:39.57`	`PProvost`	`Just thinking about how I will let people associate stance/form with a set.`
`23:40.08`	`*** part/#wowace MikkZzz (n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com)`
`23:40.14`	`vhaarr`	`Just check in the alias function if the set exists.`
`23:40.16`	`vhaarr`	`Or don't.`
`23:40.23`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: ClosetGnome_BigWigs has code for aliasing.`
`23:41.07`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: might be nice to have CG_Target instead, and have BW support in it`
`23:41.19`	`PProvost`	`I was thinking about how they select one.`
`23:41.36`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: Just alias the buff name to a set name.`
`23:41.47`	`vhaarr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:41.51`	`PProvost`	`I know I know`
`23:42.07`	`PProvost`	`I don't want them to have to type the set name. :)`
`23:42.37`	`vhaarr`	`I guess I could provide it somehow.`
`23:42.43`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: Could you add it to the TODO?`
`23:42.45`	`vhaarr`	`In CG.`
`23:42.48`	`vhaarr`	`I'm going to sleep.`
`23:42.51`	`PProvost`	`Night`
`23:42.53`	`vhaarr`	`nn`
`23:43.21`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: CG:getSets() return losetGnome.db.char.set end`
`23:43.23`	`mjc`	`:P`
`23:43.23`	`Xuerian`	`'night vhaarr :p`
`23:43.59`	`ckknight_`	`did OnEvent() become OnEvent(arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9) ?`
`23:45.25`	`mjc`	`wb ck.`
`23:45.51`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`23:45.54`	`ckknight`	`no, it doesn't`
`23:46.04`	`ckknight`	`it's now OnEvent(event, ...)`
`23:46.05`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`23:46.21`	`Xuerian`	`Hasn't it always been OnEvent(event)? o.0`
`23:46.37`	`ckknight`	`no, Xuerian`
`23:46.54`	`Xuerian`	`Ahh :P`
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`23:47.39`	`yacoob`	`uh`
`23:47.43`	`yacoob`	`hell went down :/`
`23:48.08`	`yacoob`	`Anyway, is it expected that I do not get swapmagic alternatives on main-hand and off-hand?`
`23:48.18`	`ckknight`	`did someone sneak self:RegisterEvent("LOOT_OPENED", function() SendAddonMessage("LOOT_OPENED", "", "RAID") end) into AceEvent?`
`23:48.29`	`yacoob`	`And, second, how can one edit an outfit in CG?`
`23:48.55`	`yacoob`	`(aha, there is not, readme is useful :)`
`23:50.11`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: Tekkub did :P`
`23:50.14`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`23:50.23`	`ckknight`	`well, I'm sure there was a good reason`
`23:50.35`	`Wobin`	`aye there was`
`23:50.37`	`Xuerian`	`To exert unholy wrath upon those opening loot in combat :p`
`23:50.53`	`Wobin`	`also, he'll whine if you take it back out`
`23:51.42`	`Mikma`	`bag`
`23:51.44`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r13944 10Ace2/Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - updated for lua 5.1/wow 2.0`
`23:51.49`	`yacoob`	`hm, there's no keyboard switching in CG?`
`23:51.52`	`ckknight`	`hrm, I don't want to touch AceHook yet`
`23:51.59`	`Mikma`	`bah* .. i fucked Popsicle up for good this time`
`23:52.38`	`mjc`	`Mikma: asshole`
`23:52.44`	`Mikma`	`mjc: assclown`
`23:52.49`	`mjc`	`Mikma: asshat`
`23:53.05`	`kergoth`	`meh`
`23:53.07`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r13945 10AutoBar/ (19 files):`
`23:53.07`	`CIA-17`	`Autobar:`
`23:53.07`	`CIA-17`	`Slightly more ACE Locale 2.1`
`23:53.11`	`kergoth`	`auctioneer scan estimates 17 minutes left`
`23:53.18`	`mjc`	`kergoth: haha`
`23:53.19`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r13946 10FixMe/FixMe.lua: FixMe: Changed the versioncheck to account for 1.12.2 only being for the Spanish client, apparently.`
`23:53.19`	`Wobin`	`2.1? =)`
`23:53.22`	`mjc`	`mine never take more than 10`
`23:53.28`	`Xuerian`	`mjc, Mikma: Assmonkeys.`
`23:53.28`	`kergoth`	`219 pages on the alliance side on this server`
`23:53.32`	`kergoth`	`horde is half that :\`
`23:53.54`	`Kemayo`	`It's one of the more enjoyable things about playing Horde...`
`23:54.10`	`ckknight`	`who's toadkiller?`
`23:54.18`	`kergoth`	`toadkiller is the guy who took over autobar`
`23:54.20`	`kergoth`	`and ace2'd it`
`23:54.32`	`ckknight`	`why isn't he in the channel?`
`23:54.43`	`kergoth`	`dunno`
`23:54.50`	`kergoth`	`we need to get him to move teh autobar config into a seperate addon though`
`23:54.55`	`kergoth`	`its ram usage is still way up there`
`23:55.14`	`ckknight`	`anyone else find it funny that #wowace has more people in the channel than both #wowi-lounge and #curse-lua?`
`23:55.34`	`yacoob`	`poke oi, where are you ClosetGnome advocates? :)`
`23:56.31`	`mjc`	`kergoth: FC6 prerelease is 6 CDs. ouch`
`23:56.31`	`kergoth`	`damn`
`23:56.31`	`kergoth`	`i'll stick to my debian netinst`
`23:56.31`	`Ghent`	`autobar has been ace2'ed?`
`23:56.33`	`kergoth`	`yep`
`23:56.38`	`mjc`	`trying unbuntu for now to do some troubleshooting`
`23:56.41`	`Ghent`	`recently?`
`23:56.46`	`ckknight`	`ubuntu.`
`23:56.47`	`kergoth`	`look on curse, the beta is ace2`
`23:56.50`	`Wobin`	`ckknight: not really for #curse-lua`
`23:56.50`	`Wobin`	`since it's an emochannel`
`23:57.02`	`Ghent`	`sweet mother above`
`23:57.05`	`Bh`	`ckknight: some people lurk here because you sick people are like the crack dealers of improved ui performance =\`
`23:57.06`	`ckknight`	`Wobin, yea, but I get ops there ;-)`
`23:57.08`	`Kemayo`	`Xuerian: Are you planning to make XLootMonitor's scrolling direction toggleable?`
`23:57.12`	`Wobin`	`rofl`
`23:57.19`	`Ghent`	`mjc, you're having a linux problem?`
`23:57.24`	`Wobin`	`ckknight: you -user-, you =P`
`23:57.26`	`Xuerian`	`Kemayo: you mean towards origin instead of away from it?`
`23:57.26`	`kergoth`	`Bh: hahah`
`23:57.28`	`mjc`	`hardware issue`
`23:57.42`	`Ghent`	`mjc, may I ask what it is?`
`23:57.42`	`ckknight`	`Wobin, dealer, not user.`
`23:57.47`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r13947 10AutoBar/AutoBar.toc:`
`23:57.47`	`CIA-17`	`Autobar:`
`23:57.47`	`CIA-17`	`Add AutoBarItemList back in`
`23:57.58`	`Kemayo`	`Xuerian: I mean up/down.`
`23:57.59`	`mjc`	`Ghent: lockups on heavy IO that last for 15-20 seconds`
`23:58.13`	`Wobin`	`nono, you're using .net (or whoever it was)'s need for emotional security for POWER =P`
`23:58.14`	`mjc`	`it's not the hard drive or the controller`
`23:58.30`	`Ghent`	`hrm`
`23:58.34`	`kergoth`	`mjc: i've seen that before`
`23:58.39`	`kergoth`	`but i dont remember the cause or the fix`
`23:58.41`	`kergoth`	`:P`
`23:58.50`	`Xuerian`	`Kemayo: It already does. Attach to.... is the point on the child row you want to attach To.... on the parent row/anchor. So if you set it to Topleft to Bottomleft, it goes down. Left->Right it goes right, right->left it goes left, etc`
`23:59.01`	`mjc`	`kergoth: totally`
`23:59.08`	`mjc`	`kergoth: video card possibly?`
`23:59.44`	`kergoth`	`hmm, could it be the hd controller is sharing an irq with another card, and their drivers arent too happy about it?`
`23:59.48`	`mjc`	`Ghent: it happens in windows as well`
`23:59.59`	`Xuerian`	`Kemayo: I did it that way so it can grow down directly, or down left aligned, or right alined, etc.`

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