irclog2html for #wowace on 20061022

00:00.14vhaarrERR_CHAT_RESTRICTED = "Trial accounts cannot send unlimited tells, you must wait before you can send tells to more players.";
00:00.15vhaarrwtf
00:00.25vhaarrah
00:00.29AmadeoWho do I have to sleep with to get into the beta?
00:00.36vhaarrdid the original collectors edition include some trial stuff?
00:00.47vhaarrlike you could give it to a mate
00:01.23axxothey all have that
00:01.26vhaarr"You can never use that item."
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00:01.44CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14766 10Ace2/Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: .AceLocale-2.2 - another typo
00:02.21CIA-1703ckknight * r14767 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: .AceLocale-2.2 - backporting changes from TBC branch
00:02.30[Wobin]hm, what's the extra argument in GetItemInfo?
00:03.53CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14768 10Ace2/Ace2/AceHook-2.1/AceHook-2.1.lua: .AceHook-2.1 - changed a == into ~=. bad typo.
00:04.43CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14769 10Ace2/Ace2/AceHook-2.1/AceHook-2.1.lua: .AceHook-2.1 - and => or typo
00:05.36ckknight_[Wobin], itemlevel
00:05.36haste[Wobin]: well, I don't want to upload and keep things updated on WoWI and such, so I rather send you diffs
00:05.48CIA-1703ckknight * r14770 10Ace2/AceHook-2.1/AceHook-2.1.lua: .AceHook-2.1 - backported TBC branch sections. Using `, true` at the end of a :Hook should work now.
00:06.06[Wobin]haste truetrue
00:06.15[Wobin]hm
00:06.25abbatguys ;) are you playing sometimes? or just code and test you mods? +)
00:06.34ckknight_I just code
00:06.40ckknight_don't even test sometimes
00:06.55ckknight_hence the whole bunch of typo corrections as you can see
00:06.57[Wobin]I -guess- I could if(string.gmatch) then GetInfo...
00:07.02[Wobin]but that seems so hacky =P
00:07.10abbatheh
00:07.14ckknight_[Wobin], I run a lua5.1 check, then store a variable
00:07.15abbatso, good night
00:07.29vhaarr[2006/10/22 02:06:55-2474]: AceHook-2.1\AceHook-2.1.lua:431: attempt to index global `onceSecure' (a nil value)
00:07.30vhaarrAceHook-2.1\AceHook-2.1.lua:431: in function `Hook'
00:07.30ckknight_local lua51 = loadstring("return function(...) return ... end") and true or false
00:07.34ckknight_whoops.
00:07.38ckknight_will fix, vhaarr
00:07.49Amadeockknight_: "don't even test sometimes"  I remember that from early FuBar on SVN :)
00:08.10[Wobin]hm =(
00:08.12[Wobin]er =)
00:08.20[Wobin]I'll just replace the functionnames =P
00:08.27vhaarr:(
00:08.33vhaarrso branch will be TBC only?
00:08.49ckknight_what branch?
00:08.54vhaarrMrPlw
00:08.56vhaarr+o
00:09.05[Wobin]nono
00:09.09AmadeoSo what kind of addons will TBC be ending for good? Just stuff like Decursive/Detox? Or anything else that will affect a lot of people?
00:09.12CIA-1703ckknight * r14771 10Ace2/AceHook-2.1/AceHook-2.1.lua: .AceHook-2.1 - whoops. error in TBC => trunk translation
00:09.28ckknight_Amadeo, most things just need to be rewritten
00:09.36AmadeoDecursive will work again?
00:10.14[Wobin]I'm going to make it so it runs on both
00:10.16AmadeoI don't know if I need to start learning to do without it or not :)
00:10.20ckknight_hey Kaelten
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00:10.26Kaeltenello
00:10.37Wobblesob
00:10.37tekkubckk, did you actually test the change to AceLocale-2.2 in OneBag?
00:10.43ckknight_yes.
00:10.45WobbleI'm going to make it so it runs on both
00:10.46ckknight_lots of testing
00:10.47Wobbleby probably doing something like if lua51 then string.gfind = string.gmatch
00:10.56Wobble(ps, will that work? =P)
00:10.58ckknightOneBag was odd, cause it was 2.1 => 2.2
00:11.03ckknightI got dynamic locales to work and all
00:11.06tekkubcause it's throwing an error at OneCore.lua:460 for me
00:11.11ckknightlemme see
00:11.13ckknightwhat error?
00:11.42ckknightIterateAvailableLocales not existing?
00:11.47ckknightif so, upgrade your AceLocale-2.2
00:12.00ckknightI had to add that in for OneBag ;-)
00:12.27tekkubI just ran an update... one sec...
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00:13.18Amrohi
00:13.31tekkubyarr tis fixed
00:13.47ckknight:-)
00:13.49ckknighthey Amro
00:14.12Kaeltenckknight: having fun with OneBag?
00:14.13Kaeltenlol
00:14.15ckknightooh, I gotta upgrade OneBank
00:14.17ckknighthehe, yea
00:14.25CIA-1703rabbit * r14772 10ErrorMonster/ErrorMonster.lua: ErrorMonster: TBC-compatible.
00:14.44ckknightokay, it's not imminent
00:14.53Kaeltenhehe, I like to think I did good work with AL2.1's dynamic locale system
00:15.01ckknightyea, it was okay.
00:15.09ckknightAL2.2's is good too, though
00:15.14ckknight:-P
00:15.39Kaeltenhehe, I havn't had a chacne to look at it yet. been too busy :)
00:15.46Kaeltenat least in the last few days
00:16.22Amroquick question about AceComm: :SendCommMessage("WHISPER", playername, Stuff, Stuff2) should work right?
00:16.28ckknightyea, Amro
00:16.42ckknightit's pretty similar, except that you have to declare it as dynamic right away
00:16.51Amroi got some weird error in AceComm's files, forgot what it was I'll check later
00:17.19wafflei've been away from WoW for a while.  do oRA and CTRA now use the hidden chat channel, making broadcasts obsolete?
00:17.19Kaeltenhrm.  one strength I saw in the old system was the fact that you could enable them only if you needed them
00:17.28AmadeoDo you guys use SCT or MSBT now days?
00:17.30Kaeltenbut, eh.
00:17.36Kaeltenprobably not that major of an issue
00:17.45AmroI dropped SCT since they added that to the base UI
00:17.56AmroIm not sure if it has better features though, never checked
00:18.01ckknightKaelten, AL-2.2 is made to be as efficient as possible, and by doing it this way, it keeps the efficiency, and also allows for simpler namespacing
00:18.04vhaarrKaelten: actually I think it is pretty major
00:18.14AmadeoI never checked into if you could configure the base UI's battle text
00:18.16Elkano^wtfI droped it when switching from de to en...
00:18.26Amadeoplacement, etc
00:18.30vhaarrKaelten: because it prevents dynamic locales from working at all, really. I can't set my interface to Norwegian now and provide 3rd-party translations without modifying the original addons.
00:18.33AmadeoWhat do you use now, Elkano?
00:18.52Kaeltenvhaarr had you done that previously?
00:18.58Azurewrathi use SCT.. the built in thingie is crap.. a really bad copy.. like most things blizz implented UI-wise..
00:18.59Amrothe base UI you can only choose which kinds of messages to see
00:19.01vhaarrKaelten: done what?
00:19.14Amroyep its not great but its good enough for me =)
00:19.16AmadeoAzurewrath: Did you customize it yourself, or use a default profile?
00:19.18Kaeltenprovided the 3rd party translations like that?
00:19.21AmadeoAmro: Yeah, hehe
00:19.30AzurewrathAmadeo: customize
00:19.36ckknightactually, you can, vhaarr, as long the addons enable dynamic locales
00:19.45vhaarrckknight: that's the point, they don't.
00:19.53AmroI try to avoid too much customization, I'm too lazy to copy it to other comps
00:19.58Kaeltenckknight: I think his point was that you could enable it externally previously and so you didn't need to.
00:20.00vhaarrckknight: I should be able to set EnableDynamicLocales retroactively
00:20.35Kaeltenso he could effectively write a norwegion language pack that covered certain addons without editing the original mods
00:20.36Mikmai'm having a feeling that SE-aura is kicking me out of game
00:20.51ckknightvhaarr, if I allow that, then it's not as efficient to register translations
00:21.01AmadeoMikma: By SE-aura do you mean "girlfriend"? :)
00:21.10Elkano^wtfwell, using blizzard's and EavesDrop
00:21.10vhaarrckknight: well if you don't allow it, you might as well remove dynamic language support
00:21.19nazrm02:11 <@ckknight> if so, upgrade your AceLocale-2.2 <- noobie question maybe, but how does one do that? Using !!!Libs and updating addons without externals using WAU :o
00:21.20MikmaAmadeo: no, by SE-aura i mean SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0
00:21.22Amadeohaha
00:21.25Kaeltenckknight: I'm not sure how it would be less effeiciant
00:21.39Mikmaearlier my game crashed, now it's just kicking me out of the server
00:21.46Kaeltenbasically you just have to allow them to reregister locales after the enable
00:22.28ckknightyou have to declare that your locale is using dynamic locales as soon as you declare it
00:22.33ckknightas long as you do that, you're golden
00:22.51ckknightbecause using dynamic locales is a fringe case
00:22.52CIA-1703xuerian * r14773 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Fixed issue with fixed width and highlighting. Adjusted "Link all" button position for locales with longer "Link all" texts.
00:22.58ckknightnonstandard
00:23.13Kaeltenbut his point is if he wants to add a norwegian locale to a addon he has to edit the original files
00:23.22Kaeltenwith 2.1 you didn't have to do that.
00:23.47CIA-1703rabbit * r14774 10BigWigs/Plugins/BossBlock.lua: BigWigs: BossBlock: TBC-compatible raid warn blocking.
00:23.56Mikmaanyone has any idea how can i track what's crashing my game / disconnecting me from server?
00:24.08FudgeMikma, the WoW server.
00:24.14FudgeIt's the devil.
00:24.22Mikmathat's not a way to track
00:25.07ckknightKaelten, but if I were to keep the functions in memory instead of destroying them like I do now it causes them to become gray objects instead of black objects, which is less memory efficient, and I really don't want to do that
00:26.08Mikmaumf
00:26.16ckknightthat's the main point to not storing everything in there at once and then destroying it all later
00:26.17MikmaBartender2_Circled is broken
00:26.27nazrmno it's not :p
00:26.46Mikmayes it is
00:26.53CIA-1703skyboat * r14775 10Cyclone/ (Cyclone.toc anchor.xml core.lua libs/ locale.enUS.lua):
00:26.53CIA-17Cyclone:
00:26.53CIA-17- Updated to AceLocale-2.2, and tweaked translations
00:26.53CIA-17- Removed anchor.xml, frames are now created dynamically
00:26.53CIA-17- Cleaned up more code
00:26.54CIA-17- Added right-click config menu when frame is unlocked
00:26.57Wobbleanyone available to test on TBC for MrPlow?
00:27.07ckknightI could, Wobble
00:27.11CIA-1703ckknight * r14776 10OneBank/ (OneBank.lua OneBank.toc locals.lua): OneBank - upgraded to AceHook-2.1 and AceLocale-2.2
00:27.18AmadeoOneBag\OneCore.lua:460: AceLocale(OneBag): Translation "IterateAvailableLocales" does not exist.
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00:27.28Mikmathe holy/smiter build is quite funny
00:27.41Mikmanot as dps-rich as shadow but damn funny
00:27.44ckknightAmadeo, upgrade your AceLocale-2.2
00:27.54CIA-1703ckknight * r14777 10OneBank/OneBank.toc: OneBank - whoops, toc change by accident
00:27.58Mikmawith imp manaburn it's fun to burn opponent's mana :D
00:28.03Mikmawarlocks are useless without mana lol
00:28.45CIA-1703xuerian * r14778 10XLoot/XLoot.lua:
00:28.45CIA-17XLoot: Adjusted "Link all" button to the width appropriated by the previously
00:28.45CIA-17committed adjustment to said "Link all" button. Said link all button shall now
00:28.45CIA-17appropriately appropriate the appropriate text for aforementioned locales with
00:28.46CIA-17aforementioned afflictions implied by insurmountable and yet, incidental, width
00:28.46CIA-17issues. In short, frFR now fits. Rejoice.
00:29.03Kaeltenckknight: well you can still clear them out after the locale is figured
00:29.11Amadeook!
00:29.12Kaeltenif dynamiclocales is not enabled
00:29.26ckknightKaelten, which'd cause them to be gray objects instead of black objects, which is by far less efficient memory-wise
00:29.30ckknightit causes unneeded GC churn
00:29.43ckknightwell, GC churn at the wrong time
00:29.50Wobble<3 Xuerian
00:30.06XuerianUh, <3 you too? :P
00:30.08AmadeoMikma: Yeah, we have to kill ourselves without mana!
00:30.23Mikmayeah
00:30.27Mikmaand then i burn it more
00:30.30Kaeltenok, so if you where using dynamic locales you'd have to call SetLocale correct?
00:31.03ckknightno, if you enable dynamic locales, the base is chosen automatically, but you can add more locales or change your locale whenever you want afterwards
00:31.12ckknightand all the locales stay in memory
00:31.13Kaeltenright
00:31.13XuerianDo I know you, Wobble? :P
00:31.16Wobblehow does imp manaburn work?
00:31.32WobinPossibly =P
00:31.47Kaeltennow if you don't call it then it selects the base locale and automagically figures out the correct locale with out saving anything right?
00:31.50Xueriano.0
00:32.18ckknightKaelten, well, the difference between non-dynamic and dynamic is that the extra locales are stored and you can switch between em
00:32.32ckknightit always tries to choose GetLocale() if available, or the base (enUS) if not
00:32.32Kaeltenright
00:32.41Kaeltenk
00:32.56ckknightunlike AL-2.1, it's chosen automatically
00:33.00Kaeltenwell why not allow people to belatedly enable dynamic locales
00:33.18Kaeltenand at that point they can register locales to get saved
00:33.35ckknightbecause by storing all the locales, then it turns them into gray objects instead of black objects
00:33.45ckknightblack objects are really easy to get rid of, CPU-wise and memory-wise
00:33.57Kaeltenbut you wouldn't store anything until after the dynamic enable is called
00:33.59ckknightit's done on an immediate "gc-cycle"
00:34.17ckknightyes you would, Kaelten, you have to store the translations somewhere
00:34.19Kaeltenwhich is the same thing that would happen if you called it at the beginning.
00:34.23ckknightnot true
00:34.32kergothsomeone have an accurate, yet inefficient (calls collectgarbage as is necessary) Warmup version floating around?
00:34.32KaeltenYou aren't getting me on this.
00:34.33ckknightlua doesn't work that way
00:34.55Kaeltenok follow my train of action here.
00:35.00Wobinchoochoo
00:35.13Wobin. o O ( chuggachuggachugga )
00:35.15ckknightif you want the ability to set dynamic locales later, then you need to store all the translations in memory
00:35.35Kaeltenperson loads up a AL2.2 object and registers all their locales, AL2.2 is only going to keep the base locale and the result from GetLocale() if available.  Correct?
00:35.36Xuerian.....
00:35.37nazrmhow do I update acelocale so onebag works ? :/
00:35.45ckknightcorrect.
00:35.53ckknightunless dynamic locales or debugging is on.
00:36.07Kaeltenwell we're following a course of action here :)
00:36.15Kaeltenso so far I'm correct.
00:36.28ckknightokay
00:36.38WobinAww
00:36.43WobinI made a mess =(
00:36.43Kaeltennow what I propose at this point is to allow people to call enable dynamic locales.
00:36.59Kaeltennow it still only has the base locale and the result from GetLocale() if available
00:37.02Kaeltenso nothing has changed.
00:37.06ckknightbut that's a counterintuitive fringe case, imho
00:37.12tekkubthere's something so bass-ackwards about using an aceconsole command to open a dewdrop menu for config...
00:37.18ckknightsince people would expect that all the locales would be available then
00:37.23Kaeltenbut at this poitn people can register or reregister locales to be cached and switched between
00:37.24ckknighttekkub, hehe, yea
00:37.29tekkub<PROTECTED>
00:37.35tekkub<PROTECTED>
00:37.38Kaeltentekkub: lol
00:37.44tekkubwe need to make a ace cofig panel already
00:38.02vhaarrKaelten: yeah, that would basically solve the issue, and make dynamic locales useful.
00:38.03tekkubI love dewdrop, but panels are nice at times
00:38.17Kaeltenckknight: it may be a fringe case, but there isn't any good reason not to allow that kinda behavior.
00:38.40Kaeltenit just changes the type of object from a regular locale object to a dynamic locale object
00:38.40ckknightKaelten, the counterintuitivity and changing of what an AL instance is
00:38.52Kaeltenits not counter intuitive
00:38.53tekkubso... make a new lib similar to dewdrop, but panels instead of menus...
00:38.59tekkubwhat to name this lib?
00:39.15ckknightyes it is, since it'd be intuitive to expect all locales to be available, if you have the ability to switch between em
00:39.27tekkubDealer-2.0
00:39.36ckknightI'd be happy to tell vhaarr how to change his AceLocale locally, but I don't think it needs to go into the trunk
00:39.38tekkubAceDeck-2.0
00:39.54WobinFullHouse
00:39.55vhaarrckknight: then just remove it completely
00:39.56Kaeltenckknight: its as simple as removing 3 lines of code.....
00:40.10ckknightyea, just remove the error on :EnableDynamicLocales()
00:40.23ckknightbut the error should be in trunk
00:40.27Kaeltenand then the functionality I describe would be possible and allow more flexability
00:40.32tekkubwell I have a feeling it'd become a core ace lib, as it's gonna be an extension of AceConsole
00:41.59Kaeltenckknight: I'm afraid I'm going to disagree with this one.  Its fairly assine to not allow the functionality on a just because scenerio.  It is an advanced feature of the lib.  But that just means it requires a greater deal of understanding to be able to use it properly
00:42.34vhaarrjust make it perfectly clear in the API docs
00:42.48vhaarr"When using this method you *must* re-register any locale tables afterwards."
00:44.12CIA-1703ckknight * r14779 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: .AceLocale-2.2 - :EnableDynamicLocales() => :EnableDynamicLocales(forReals)
00:44.16ckknightalright
00:44.24KaeltenforReals?
00:44.26Wobinhm, oh wait
00:44.28ckknightnow if you want to do it in that weird case, you just put true in
00:44.30CIA-1703wobin * r14780 10/branches/MrPlow/ (Libs/ MrPlow.lua MrPlow.toc): MrPlow - Padding for 2.0. here's hoping it works =P
00:44.31ckknightand it won't yell
00:44.40WobinI need to switch that around
00:44.50ckknightit means that you know what you're doing
00:44.53ckknightis all
00:45.14vhaarrEnableDynamicLocales is a pretty advanced and non-standard thing already
00:45.22vhaarrI don't think it needs forReals, but thanks anyway :)
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00:46.54Mikmackknight: do you have any idea how can i track what's kicking me off the server?
00:47.01hasteWobin: that's the version I used
00:47.11ckknightand doc'd in the wiki
00:47.16Wobinhaste: ??
00:47.20ckknightMikma, no?
00:47.21CIA-1703kaelten * r14781 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua:
00:47.21CIA-17Ace2 - AceLocale-2.2.lua
00:47.21CIA-17- changed variable name forReals to override
00:47.25hastethat MrPlow version
00:47.28Mikmagod damn
00:47.29ckknightah, fair enough.
00:47.55Wobinfor the diff?
00:47.57Wobinaye
00:48.06Kaeltenckknight:  makes a little more sense :)
00:48.10ckknightyea, I suppose
00:48.12ckknightwiki updated
00:48.44Mikmai mounted some time ago and it kicked me out of server :P
00:48.58Mikmaother than that, it's been a fight when i have been booted out
00:49.07CIA-1703wobin * r14782 10/branches/MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow - switched it around to have to deal less with the unbackwardcomprimising on release of 2.0. Now with brighter confidence of working in TBC and whiter whites.
00:49.10Wobinomg
00:49.14Wobintotally foreals? =P
00:50.24Mikmaolé!
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00:50.59vhaarrrofl, I create a level 1 rogue and log in, and someone creates an *identical* character 2 seconds after me
00:51.06Wobinckknight/haste: When you get a chance, could you try on TBC?
00:51.12vhaarrsame hair, class, face, eyes, sex
00:51.55vhaarrbut my name is better; Carmen beats Dejjn
00:52.01hasteWobin: that branch?
00:52.04Wobinaye
00:52.07hastesure
00:52.12hasteif it will let me checkout
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00:53.19ckknighthaste, you in beta?
00:53.24hasteyes
00:53.35ckknightah, cool.
00:53.43ckknightme too
00:53.57vhaarrhaste: what server?
00:54.09hastevhaarr: Bloodmysth or what it's named
00:54.16vhaarrah
00:54.22hasteEnglish PvP EU basicly
00:54.27vhaarrI'm on the pve one
00:54.45ckknightyea, honestly, I can't think of other Ace libraries which need overhaul, AceLocale and AceHook were the only ones that did
00:54.59Mikmaso i was wondering. what about if i record my fights in order to see if there's something that keeps the game kicking me out
00:55.05hasteI took the same server as a couple of folks in my guild
00:55.29vhaarrckknight: AceDebug could be extended alot, or AceLog could be made.
00:55.30GngskMikma, all we'd see is that shadow priest are imba
00:55.42MikmaGngsk: i'm not shadow
00:55.44ckknightI don't know about AceDebug, I didn't write it and I don't use it
00:55.44vhaarrckknight: I don't know if you've worked with any of the java logging libraries, but I miss them.
00:55.47Gngskliar
00:55.55vhaarrlog4j, for example
00:55.57Mikmai respeced today
00:55.58GngskI saw your spec!
00:56.21MikmaGngsk: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVMGshiqZoxthbb
00:56.22ckknightand do we need any _more_ Ace libraries?
00:56.40Gngskzomg
00:56.49Gngskthat's such a nub spec
00:56.55Mikmano not really
00:57.01Mikmait proved out to be alot of fun
00:57.08Mikmaand keeps me & others alive much longer
00:57.19ckknightMikma, link?
00:57.22Gngskinspiration > blessed recovery
00:57.28Mikmackknight: 7 lines up
00:57.38Kaeltenvhaarr: what kinda library are you talking about?
00:57.46Wobindoes BR really help that much?
00:57.50Gngskno
00:57.59hasteWobin: the PTEmbed needs the diff also
00:58.02hasteWobin: else it won't work
00:58.04vhaarrKaelten: logging libraries, like log4j
00:58.06Wobinooh
00:58.09Wobinforgot, thanks
00:58.16Kaeltenvhaarr: whats it do?
00:58.16Mikmaseems to help, atleast in my case
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00:59.07vhaarrKaelten: it basically just provides you with a logger object with several log levels, like info, warn, debug, critical, etc.
00:59.14vhaarrand category support
00:59.19vhaarrhm sec
01:00.54vhaarrhttp://logging.apache.org/log4j/docs/manual.html
01:01.29mjcmac pro ftw
01:01.37hasteWobin: any special changes except for the diff?
01:02.02Mikmawell if the boots continue tomorrow, i'm testing with all SE-Aura addons disabled :P
01:02.31Wobinhm, well it's a bit more backwards compatible, but otherwise no
01:04.55CIA-1703wobin * r14784 10PeriodicTable/Core/PTEmbed.lua: PeriodicTable - Partial lua5.1 patch
01:04.55CIA-1703miles 07TBC * r14783 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Emergency patch for issue: unitframes stops being updated mid combat. Events are being unregistered incorrectly.
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01:09.43Amro200 lines without testing, i must be crazy
01:09.57Xuerian<PROTECTED>
01:10.17CIA-1703rabbit * r14785 10BigWigs/Other/Onyxia.lua: BigWigs: Onyxia: Adjusted warning strings slightly.
01:10.40Amromade a typo that i was getting an error about, except i didnt notice it was a typo in the error and thought my var was magically disappearing
01:11.37Prophyis there an TRANQSHOT ace2 mod?
01:11.50vhaarrProphy: It's builtin.
01:12.16mjcme loves
01:12.26mjcdamn /
01:12.33Prophybuiltin to bartender?
01:12.44mjcbigwigs, I'd say
01:12.49vhaarrerr, yes
01:12.51vhaarrBW
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01:13.25mjcbrb
01:15.25Prophythe new Prat seems broken
01:15.30Prophynone of the modules get loaded
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01:21.00Amrockknight, im getting error on line 208 of AceComm-2.0.lua: bad argument #1 to gsub, expected string, got nil
01:21.15ckknightlemme check
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01:23.42ToastTheifhello
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01:24.07Amrohi
01:24.50ToastTheifwould anyone happen to know why everytime I extract the contents of any .stix/sit file to my desktop using windows and stuffit 9.0, the files are 0 kbs?
01:24.52vhaarrckknight: line 905 in FBP-2.0 seems a bit weird to me. It's wrapped in |if not self.frame then|, but it tries to call self.frame:GetName(), which would surely result in a "attempt to index field 'frame' (a nil value)" error?
01:25.18ckknightlemme see
01:25.44ckknightAmro, is that TBC or normal?
01:25.47Amronormal
01:25.59Amroself:SendCommMessage("WHISPER", name, "RaidInvite", self.currentRaid.name)
01:26.11ckknightcrap
01:26.20ckknightAmro, I need a debugstack
01:26.29ckknightfrom Bugsack or something
01:26.34vhaarrAmro: get !BugGrabber and BugSack.
01:26.43vhaarrAmro: From the SVN.
01:26.44Amrook
01:27.21KalamadiQuestion: How have paladin coefficients changed in the expansion?
01:27.42ckknightvhaarr, weird old bug
01:27.57vhaarrckknight: Yeah, I believe I notified you of the issue a few months ago.
01:28.05ckknightand I fixed it then
01:28.08vhaarraha
01:28.13vhaarr:P
01:28.36ckknightpossibly got trampled on svn changes or something weird
01:28.46CIA-1703ckknight * r14787 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - bugfix
01:33.05CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r14788 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_FrameTemplate.xml ag_UnitClass.lua):
01:33.05CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
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01:43.36Amrockknight, ive got the trace
01:43.40Amrowhere should I put it?
01:43.41ckknightk
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01:46.16CIA-1703rabbit * r14789 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: TBC-compatible.
01:46.26ag`ckknight: where do I pull fubar2 if I want to try it in BC?
01:46.31ag`trunk is fine?
01:46.32ckknightag`, trunk
01:46.36ag`cool
01:46.39ckknightag`, you got Beta?
01:46.54ag`not really, some helpful soul shares with me
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01:47.03ckknightcool enough
01:47.04ckknighthugs all around!
01:47.11ag`so I don't have a my own character there
01:47.15ckknightAmro, do you ever call :SetCommPrefix()?
01:47.19ag`I test on a level 3 blood elf paladin
01:47.27ckknightag`, it doesn't matter much if you just code ;-)
01:47.31ckknightthat's what I do
01:47.41ag`yep
01:47.44ag`so it's fine
01:47.49ag`well my problem is getting a group
01:47.59ag`I need a party/raid to test a lot of the stuff I do
01:48.00ckknightI could group with you if need be
01:48.04ckknightI'm not busy
01:48.05Amroi should have, lemme check to make sure
01:48.07ag`but I'm EU
01:48.10vhaarrag`: server?
01:48.11ckknightI'm EU
01:48.12ckknightwhat realm?
01:48.14ag`nice
01:48.16ag`the PvP
01:48.24vhaarrgah, you're all on the pvp realm
01:48.36ag`it doesn't matter really
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01:48.40vhaarrag`: I think there's a problem on line 293 in ag_UnitFrames.lua
01:48.41ag`on the test servers
01:48.43Amroah, i didn't
01:48.44ckknightHorde or Allies?
01:48.45ag`vhaarr: right now?
01:48.47vhaarrag`: yes
01:48.50ag`I'm horde/blood elf
01:48.53ckknightI can't make an Ally, since there's already a horde char
01:48.54ckknightokay
01:48.54ag`but I can roll whatever
01:48.56Amrothought RegisterComm(self.commPrefix.. accomplished something similar
01:49.02ag`vhaarr: two secs
01:49.12ckknightAmro, no, use :SetCommPrefix
01:49.31Amrothanks
01:49.35ckknightPvP realm has more people
01:49.36ckknighti.e. laggier
01:49.39ag`vhaarr: doesn't look to have any problem there
01:49.40ckknightjust make a PvE char, ag`
01:49.41vhaarrag`: self.events.X is nil - maybe the same problem on 321
01:50.02ag`293 is a line about portrait
01:50.07ag`just sets alpha
01:50.24ag`321 declares a function SavePosition
01:50.45vhaarrfor k,v in pairs(self.events.RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE) do
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01:50.48vhaarris line 321
01:50.59vhaarrI error on for k,v in pairs(self.events.PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED) do
01:51.03vhaarrline 293
01:51.10ag`ah wait
01:51.15vhaarr<PROTECTED>
01:51.32hasteshadow priests will be fun in expansion
01:51.45hastemind blast crits you 1600, shadow word death hits you 1200
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01:52.08vhaarrhaste: Well, they fixed it at first, so that shadow priests could spec Divine Spirit and still get the necessary things from Shadow, but then they fucked it up again, so that you can't.
01:52.20vhaarrWhich makes me a sad panda.
01:52.36haste2800 damage instant at L60 is pretty sick tho' :p
01:52.48vhaarrnot more than a rogue can do
01:52.55ag`haste: I am going to be so fucked with my SP in BC
01:52.56CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r14790 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua:
01:52.56CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
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01:54.45ckknightag`, I made a char on the PvE realm if you want to party
01:54.57hastevhaarr: add 450 Shadow Word pain ticks to that list
01:55.04ag`I can party wherever needed
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01:55.16vhaarrhaste: rogues ss for 1k+
01:55.24hastevhaarr: I don't :(
01:55.29vhaarryou suck :(
01:55.30ag`but... 10k health pools
01:55.38ag`ckknight: what side
01:55.42ckknightHorde
01:55.43ckknightBE
01:55.48Amadeo1k SS is pretty uncommon pre-expansion
01:55.51ckknightname's Sedgewick
01:56.02hasteI did a chea shot, then phycic scream -> shadow word pain -> mind flay -> shadow word death -> dead before fear breaks
01:56.54AmadeoPriests have always been awesome in PvP in the right hands
01:58.08ag`ckknight: andreas was taken :/ I have it on the pvp server:)
01:58.18ckknightjust make some name.
01:58.21ckknightit doesn't matter
01:59.02ckknightlag
01:59.29ag`I know it doesn't matter :)
01:59.45vid`im gonna respec deep arcane i think, spell power build
01:59.53vid`that 50% bonus dmg on crit seems nice with shatter :P
01:59.54ag`do you normally play on US ckk?
02:00.00ckknightyep
02:00.28ag`wow I have some event trouble it seems
02:00.55ag`no, this mob was just bugged
02:01.14ckknightyea
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02:08.30mjcI'm officially in love
02:08.33mjcthis box is insanely fast
02:08.58mjcmake -j of emacs didn't even use 100% of all CPUs
02:09.21Amrockknight, im getting an error about calling SetCommPrefix more than once.
02:09.29Amroi only call it once in OnEnable
02:09.47ckknightdo you ever set .commPrefix?
02:09.52ckknightmanually, I mean
02:09.59Amroyes
02:10.24Amroshould i remove that
02:10.26Amro??
02:10.46ckknightyes.
02:14.26Amrothanks. question: why is prefix required in RegisterComm if you have to set it before manually? is it another prefix?
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02:18.46Amrockknight?
02:18.53ckknightyes?
02:18.58Amroread above
02:19.13ckknightbecause someone may want to listen to many different prefixes
02:19.14ckknightor something
02:19.54Amrogotcha, and sendcomm uses the set prefix
02:20.10ckknightyea
02:22.12Amadeoam I the only one that thinks that the BantoBar "scheme" is really sexy for health/mana bars? :)
02:22.22ckknightyes
02:22.29FudgeAmadeo, nope.. I use it for everything. ;P
02:23.04Amadeockknight: That means you love it!
02:23.07AmadeoI know your tricks
02:23.12ckknightno, Amadeo
02:23.13AmadeoFudge is the man
02:23.16ckknightit means you're the only one
02:23.18Amadeohaha
02:23.20WobinFor ckk, yes means no =P
02:23.34ckknightjust like rape.
02:23.43Amadeoand "okay" means, "Thanks so much, I love you and appreciate it"
02:23.59Wobinno that's no means yes
02:24.51Amadeooh, ok
02:26.11PT|Farlyerm
02:26.14PT|Farlyi need
02:26.15PT|Farlyhelp
02:26.21PT|Farlyvael vs whale
02:26.37PT|Farlyanyone remember the vid/animation? =)
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02:31.19CIA-1703fleetfoot * r14791 10BigTrouble/ (BigTrouble-deDE.lua BigTrouble-enUS.lua BigTrouble-koKR.lua):
02:31.19CIA-17BigTrouble:
02:31.19CIA-17- Added the missing locale text for the german version.
02:31.19CIA-17- I appreciate the help with translations, but next time make sure you dont break existing translations when you do it.
02:40.57Amadeofleetfoot doesn't love the koKR
02:41.44fleetfootmmm koKR with chocolate
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02:52.34AmadeoWow
02:52.39AmadeoMage PvP is all about Fire in the expansion
02:52.47AmadeoI can't believe how good it is (in videos!)
03:01.57CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r14792 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_HideBlizzard.lua:
03:01.58CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
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03:03.49CIA-1703aileen 072.0 * r14793 10FuBar_FarmerFu/FuBar_FarmerFu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): FarmerFu - Finished updating original functionality for FuBar 2.0.
03:06.43CIA-1703fleetfoot * r14794 10BigTrouble/ (4 files):
03:06.43CIA-17BigTrouble:
03:06.43CIA-17- Some more cleanups of the locale thingiedohickey
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03:21.50CIA-1703xuerian * r14796 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Fixed typo fucking up function in TBC
03:24.09KalamadiHmm. Firefox 2.0 has a problem with ordering actions
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03:24.35CIA-17BigTrouble:
03:24.35CIA-17- Some code beauty added
03:24.37KalamadiIf I click a list of 20 links to open in tabs and then close that tab, it'll close the tab before all the tabs are open from clicking
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03:31.31mjcyays
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03:32.40CIA-17SpecialEventsEmbed -
03:32.40CIA-17SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0 add koKR
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03:34.00mjcman
03:34.02mjcparallels rocks
03:34.09Xuerian...
03:34.19KalamadiParallels?
03:34.25mjcthink vmware
03:34.48XuerianMultiple os running in paralell? 0_o
03:34.55mjcyep
03:34.58mjcOSX app
03:35.02XuerianAnd you're doing it?
03:35.07mjcyep
03:35.16XuerianOSX app on.... linux?
03:35.24mjclinux on OSX
03:35.31mjcchrippa: x86
03:35.32mjcer
03:35.35mjcchrisa: x86
03:35.37XuerianAhh, it IS a osx app
03:35.40chrisagotcha
03:36.55ckknightI need something to work on.
03:37.14XuerianI need something new to play with.
03:37.17mjcckknight: tek had complaints about aceconsole
03:37.27ckknightcomplaints such as?
03:37.35ckknightXuerian, perhaps we can make an arrangement...
03:37.38mjcdoesn't use it for S&D's menus because it's "limited"
03:37.41Amadeockknight: I need the world map in resizeable frame with alpha, no other fancy stuff :P
03:38.05ckknightAmadeo, AlphaMap-style?
03:38.09Xuerianckknight, perhaps we can... Though it remains to be seen
03:38.22Amadeockknight: Yeah, but isn't AlphaMap kinda hefty now?
03:38.28ckknightyea...
03:38.31CIA-1703aileen * r14799 10FuBar_FarmerFu/ (7 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_FarmerFu - FuBar 2.0 version
03:38.45AmadeoI just want the basic Blizzard world map and anything compatible with it as far as addons go...in a alphamap-esque frame, without fancy shit
03:38.46Amadeoyou know?
03:38.47Amadeohehe
03:39.02ckknightpart of me wants to prevent FuBarPlugin-1.2 from working in WoW 2.0
03:39.10Amadeowhy's that?
03:39.13Amadeoforce it?
03:39.24ckknightwell, it's deprecated
03:39.28ckknightit's been deprecated for a while
03:39.33ckknightand I don't want to support it
03:39.34XuerianGo for it. I need to re-write the old guildfu anyway.
03:40.24AmadeoI think you should
03:40.24ckknightwe'll see if anyone complains...
03:40.24ckknightI can always switch it back :-P
03:40.24AmadeoMicrosoft doesn't support Windows 98 anymore!
03:40.24ckknightright
03:40.24Xuerianheheheh
03:40.24ckknightI'm going to take WoW 2.0 as an excuse to deprecate a lot of things
03:40.57AmadeoI've been wanting to remove my floppy drive, because it's just in the way!
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03:42.11mjcapple deprecated IDE in the mac pro :)
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03:43.03Tain"It was the first time I'd ever been in love and I learned a lot.  Before that I never even thought about killing myself."
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03:43.46ckknightlol, Tain
03:44.22CIA-1703ckknight * r14801 10FuBar-compat-1.2/FuBar-compat-1.2.lua: FuBar-compat-1.2 - deprecated for WoW 2.0
03:44.26ckknightthere we go
03:45.01mjcwhoop, looks like 1G isn't enough ;)
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03:57.06CIA-17Bartender2_Circled:
03:57.06CIA-17- option name, desc localized
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04:08.42CIA-17BigTrouble:
04:08.43CIA-17- Fixed the added toggle for aimedShot and autoShot added by damjau, please test before you commit stuff, unless youre me.
04:11.35mjcugh
04:11.40mjcthis is disgustingly fast
04:11.50Xueriano_0
04:12.09mjcinstalling windows updates, compiling perl modules, burning a CD, and watching an HDTV movie... 70% idle
04:12.22Xuerian....
04:12.27mjc1080p (1920x1280) h264
04:12.54XuerianI hate you.
04:13.21Amadeowhat do you have now?
04:13.23mjcneed more ram though, 2GB in swap from earlier when I tried to wow + linux + windows + compile + itunes
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04:14.25fleetfooti concur with Xuerian mjc, bastard
04:15.43jumbaliwhat do u do when an add-on wigsout? sraidframes has been doing this for a couple days : 'attempt to index local 'f' (a nil value)" ?
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04:48.00ckknightI still need something to do
04:48.48cladhairehrm, you're that bored?
04:49.15ckknightI guess so
04:55.43mjcckknight: make fubar able to do vertical or arbitrarily sized bars without the current hoop jumping that's necessary :)
04:56.09ckknightproblem with that is that you can't do vertical text
04:56.14XuerianOoh, along those lines: Per-panel font size and transparency :)
04:56.31mjcckknight: horizontal text, or icon only
04:56.43mjcckknight: like a column
05:00.05ckknightarbitrarily sized bars?
05:00.31ckknightalso, I honestly don't see myself using the vertical FuBar. If someone else were to code it, I'd be happy to put it in, but I just don't see the usefulness of it. Also, Jostle'd need to be rewritten and such, which is complicated
05:01.38mjcI would love it :/
05:02.29mjcckknight: it would be nice to have fubar manage all of an addon's fubar settings by default
05:02.48ckknightwhat do you mean by that?
05:02.55mjcwell
05:03.04mjcwhen I blow away my WTF folder
05:03.16Wobin~tryme
05:03.18purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at wobin and fires. Click.
05:03.19mjchalf the apps that load in fubar have totally random positioning
05:03.27mjc(eg, one is one way another is anohter)
05:03.39mjcnot totally random. just ... bizarre
05:04.27mjcckknight: trying to saya I want the default fubar to be much less cluttered
05:05.04mjcs/saya/say/
05:05.27ckknightthat seems like an issue of the plugins
05:05.44mjcit is, but a way to centrally store that info would be nice, or overrride it or something
05:06.03ckknightwhat info?
05:06.58mjcposition, center, show/hide text, etc
05:06.58mjcb/c it's a fucking pain in the ass to test defaults and have almost half my screen taken up by fubar mods
05:06.58mjc:(
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05:11.33PProvostEvening kids
05:11.44ckknighthey PProvost
05:12.03PProvostWhat'cha working on tonight?
05:12.50ckknightnothing right now
05:12.51Xuerianckknight is rattling his idea cup at passing people...
05:12.57XuerianI can hear the marbles =(
05:15.07PProvostHehe
05:15.43mjcI gave him ideas he just doesn't want them
05:15.48mjcckknight: beggars can't be choosers
05:16.14ckknightgood thing I'm not a beggar, eh?
05:16.25mjcweren't  you begging for stuff to do?
05:16.49ckknightno, I was bored, asking for things to do, I wouldn't've called it begging
05:17.13mjcI'm being facetious
05:17.16ckknightnothing strikes my facy
05:17.18ckknightfancy*
05:19.39ckknightit's depressing
05:19.46ckknightI'm good with small, interesting tasks
05:23.38ckknightactually, I should add useful
05:24.01ckknightif I see something as not useful, I'm typically very less interested in working on it
05:24.55PProvostI think most geeks are like that
05:25.14PProvost(geek is a word of pride for me so take that as it was intended)
05:25.39ckknightI understood from the context :-P
05:26.00KalamadiPurpose is one of the great drives, I guess. I can't even do something unless I feel it has some purpose.
05:26.15ckknightyea, I just don't see vertical bars on FuBar as something that I'd use that'd be useful. It'd just take way too much work for essentially no return for me
05:27.35ckknighthey Tem
05:27.39Temhey
05:28.44PProvostI've been dreaming of something that gets me the query-ability of a relational database. :)
05:29.31ckknightthat would be neat, PProvost, but not really suited to Lua/WoW's data structures
05:30.20ckknightI had thought of doing something like LINQ, but it just seems like it couldn't be efficient enough to be useful
05:31.51PProvosthaha
05:33.37ckknightcladhaire, bug with Clique (BC): I got a new spell as a lvl 2 Pally that added a new spell tree. the clique button is now on top of my protection button, i.e. it needs to update its position to make sure it's below the bottom button after learning a spell.
05:34.27KalamadiQuestion. Will there be "hard modes" for MC, BWL, AQ, and Naxx, or only for the lower-level Outlands instances?
05:35.10ckknightnot sure, it seems as if it's for every dungeon
05:35.17ckknightnote: I have no proof
05:37.18KalamadiDo you know who I could ask? I think it might be critical in convincing my guild to not screw me over come expansion.
05:37.50ckknightwhy, they all wanna do hard?
05:38.12KalamadiNo; I'm afraid they'll drag current 40-man instance DKP into the TBC 25-man instances.
05:39.31ckknighthow is this bad?
05:40.54KalamadiI don't want to spend three months helping to learn the encounters and then be barred from gear because I entered the guild already fully MC-equipped. A day after I joined, they transferred copious amounts of DKP from MC to BWL.
05:42.09KalamadiWe can agree that DKP is a manner of dispersing gear evenly across a group of people based on attendance. When this attendance pertains to an entirely different experience - TBC, in this case - it makes little sense:
05:42.58Kalamadi"You didn't go to the instances before because you didn't enjoy them, but now you enjoy them and can't get anything!"
05:44.22PProvostIt seems to me that you either make DKP be completely cross instance (any of the major ones count to the same bank)  _OR_ never transfer DKP at all. Anything else is unfair and screws someone.
05:44.25ckknightenjoy them?
05:44.35PProvostckknight, good point. :)
05:45.53KalamadiI'm a paladin. Right now, I'm pigeon-holed for healing (and I do damn well at it, really), but the expansion is due to have a whole array of roles for me to play.
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05:47.28PProvostckknight, is there anything important to know if hooking some other Ace addon's methods?
05:47.32KalamadiBut back to the core issue; if there are "hard-mode" MC/BWL/AQ/Naxx varieties, the argument is moot, since they'll probably lock DKP into those instances.
05:47.34PProvost(using AceHook-2.1)
05:47.43ckknightmmm... not really.
05:47.47PProvostcool
05:47.49PProvostJust checking
05:48.22PProvostI'm collecting some of my hacks out of the addons themselves and into an addon called CustomHacks that will augment/change other addons as I like them changed.
05:48.57PProvostWith all the changes coming down, I need to be able to disable my hack easily. AceHook seemed like a good choice.
05:49.35ckknight:-)
05:50.00ckknightthe best thing AceHook has to offer is dynamic unhooking and rehooking
05:50.12PProvostYep. That's what I wanted.
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06:14.28ckknighthey Greywind
06:14.43Greywindhowdy :)
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06:15.18Greywind:P
06:16.07ckknightI should probably change that to "AceHook-2.0 is deprecated in favor of AceHook-2.1"
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06:17.16Greywindyeah
06:17.40*** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Server_Status#Latest_Update | Everyone who commits to the SVN, read and sign http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules | AceLocale-2.0 and AceLocale-2.1 have been deprecated in favor of AceLocale-2.2 | Babble-2.0 and Babble-2.1 have been deprecated in favor of Babble-2.2 | AceHook-2.0 is deprecated in favor of AceHook-2.1
06:49.14wafflewow. for some reason, after tonight's changes, activating FuBar_QuestFu causes half my addons to break.  but disabling it completely fixes the problem.
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06:54.30PProvostwaffle, yeah, I saw someone mention that in the forums so I skipped updatign tonight.
06:54.37PProvostApparently rolling back one or two versions helps.
06:55.51Greywindwell if my headache goes away ill take a look at it and try to fix it
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06:56.06waffleI'm just glad someone found out it was FuBar_QuestFu.  Half my UI was gone and it would have taken forever to isolate the problem.
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07:01.07ckknightQuestFu works for me
07:01.12ckknightjust make sure your libraries are up to date
07:02.19waffleok.  i just pulled down the latest version of my mods by telling WinAceUpdater to update all my mods, w/ externals.  is it possible my libraries are out of date?
07:02.33waffledo i get to grab that !!!libs thing?
07:02.38ckknightalso, saying that something causes addons to break honestly doesn't help me one iota.
07:02.46ckknightif you told me the error that occured
07:03.01ckknightor even better, provided a debugstack (a la BugSack), then it'd be worthwhile
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07:04.15waffleok.  here's what happens though.  when I log in w/ QuestFu enabled, my UI is broken, and I get an error message about Libs\FuBarPlugin-2.0 in BigWigs.  But if I disable QuestFu, and log in, my UI works, but I get the same error upon loading.  
07:04.22waffleBigWigs\Libs\FuBarPlugin-2.0\FubarPlugin-2.0.lua:905: attempt to index field `frame' (a nil value)
07:04.39waffleso it seems that that message is not the culprit.  i'll try bugsack i guess.
07:04.43ckknightoh, I think I fixed that.
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07:05.37ckknightget the latest FuBarPlugin-2.0
07:07.05waffleI don't use the SVN.  I use wowace.com/files.  Should I go to it, download the !!!Libs package, rip out the FuBarPlugin-2.0 dir and use it to replace the same named dir in one of my addons?
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07:07.45ckknightyes.
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07:09.45Mikmamorning
07:09.50Mikmaneat surprise ..
07:09.59ckknighthey mikma
07:10.04Mikmamy wife (specced as tank with 6/8 of t2)
07:10.11Mikmashe has played pvp all night
07:10.23Mikmashe got like 850 HK's already, and i thought i had much with 750
07:10.50Mikmashe had the priviledge of tanking AV hordeboss too
07:10.58ckknight~cuddle FISKER_Q
07:11.09purlACTION snuggles with FISKER_Q.  "Was it good for you, dear ?"
07:11.21deciwhoa, hot
07:11.30FISKER_Qawesome
07:11.47Mikmackknight: hows your weekend going
07:12.19XLVII~seen Sairen
07:12.45purlsairen <n=Miranda@p549E71AE.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 13h 9m 58s ago, saying: 'well my commit msg wasn't accepted the other way'.
07:12.45ckknightMikma, rather bored, made a draenei pally, lvl 7 currently
07:12.53Mikmackknight: for some reason, i like pallies now
07:13.00ckknightyea, me too
07:13.02ckknightit's strange
07:13.04Mikmai have hated them as long as WoW has existed but now i like em
07:13.07waffleok, here's the trace of the error that happens when I load QuestFu.  http://pastie.caboo.se/18951
07:13.25FISKER_QMikma are you horde?
07:14.31MikmaFISKER_Q: no, lolliance
07:14.34FISKER_QO
07:14.35FISKER_Q:O
07:14.59ckknightnow, they seem less like pussies and more like pimps
07:15.09Mikmahell yeah
07:15.15XLVIIHow do I checkout an AddOn from the SVN without externals?
07:15.22ckknight--no-externals
07:15.33Mikmaor, --ignore-externals
07:15.39Mikmadepends on program
07:15.49XLVIITortoise.
07:15.52FISKER_Qor check the "Ignore externals" checkbox if you're using a client
07:15.53FISKER_Q:P
07:15.54ckknightright, it's --ignore-externals
07:16.11XLVIIoh dah..
07:16.17XLVIIi can just press the omit externals button
07:16.18XLVII;F
07:16.34Mikmackknight: just wait until you pop Paladin in PvP with pvp-spec :P
07:16.45waffleis 14216 the newest rev of FuBarPlugin-2.0?
07:16.48FISKER_Qlol silly stuff
07:16.51ckknightwhy's that, Mikma?
07:16.58Mikmackknight: because they own there :P
07:17.03FISKER_QYou can apparently set the loot treshold above anything possible
07:17.06Mikmagroup up with a priest an dps warrior
07:17.07ckknightcool
07:17.15FISKER_Qso when people try to leave a party they get an ui error instead :P
07:17.24Mikmaon our server there has been rank14 paladin
07:17.32Mikmathat means they *do* manage :D
07:18.01FISKER_Qnot like it's any harder
07:19.29FISKER_QPProvost you there?
07:24.23ckknightone nice thing about my pally is that I have yet to die :-)
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07:27.28Kalamadickknight: I levelled my paladin from 1-60 without dying :X
07:27.32XLVIIError: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/trunk/!!!Libs'  
07:27.33XLVIIError: PROPFIND of '/wowace/trunk/!!!Libs': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://www.svn.wowace.com)  
07:27.36ckknightlol, Kalamadi
07:27.59FISKER_Q[2006/10/22 09:27:11-140]: FuBar_QuestsFu\QuestsFu.lua:419: AceHook-2.1: Could not find the handler you supplied when hooking "GetQuestLogTitle" :O
07:28.41XLVIIAny idea? ;F
07:29.12XLVII< Idiot..
07:29.56XLVIIWait, no I'm not..
07:29.58XLVIISomethign is wrong..
07:29.59XLVII;F
07:34.13ckknightFISKER_Q, that doesn't seem right
07:35.09wafflethat's the same error I pasted a while up
07:35.52ckknightI have yet to log into WoW 1.12 with it, though
07:35.58ckknightso AceHook may have a bug in it for that
07:38.15FISKER_Qdoesn't seem to be the only thing affected
07:38.27FISKER_Qgot a lot of addons that suddenly doesn't work now
07:38.38FISKER_Qbut only an error from onebag and questfu
07:39.07ckknightwhat's OneBag's error?
07:39.26FISKER_Q[2006/10/22 09:26:58-140]: OneBag\OneCore.lua:460: AceLocale(OneBag): Translation "IterateAvailableLocales" does not exist.
07:39.49ckknightyour AceLocale-2.2 is out of date.
07:49.49Mikmackknight: code an addon to snoop things around :P
07:49.56FISKER_Qwell that fixed the acelocale problems :P
07:50.01Mikmai wanna know what addon keeps crashing my game
07:50.09ckknightMikma, *shrug*
07:50.11Mikmabut like i said, it won't just freeze anymoer
07:50.18Mikmanow it just keeps kicking me out of server
07:50.29Mikmathat means it sends an illegal string in some occasion
07:50.39Mikmabut i need to know what :P
07:50.52ckknightgrep for Send\S+Message
07:51.23Mikmalet's see
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07:54.47Mikmackknight: well i tried to grep 'Send' and..
07:55.13Mikmai'm not sure is this the correct way :P
07:55.52ckknightSend\w+Message
07:56.09ckknighti.e. SendChatMessage, SendAddonMessage, SendCommMessage
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07:57.22Mikmai'm having a feeling that it's oRA2 for some reason
07:58.08Mikmai'm making a forumpost about this to see am i the onlyone having this problem :)
07:58.42FISKER_Qi don't have the problem atleast
07:59.11ckknightthere's always endpoint titration, mikma
07:59.21ckknightdisable half your addons, see if you crash
07:59.29ckknightswitch, see if you crash
07:59.34ckknightnarrow it down from there
07:59.57Mikmackknight: that's how i get rid of the complete freeze
08:00.03pastamancerhmm, can I borrow someone on the US realms for 30 minutes to help me test Grid?  I just made some huge changes to make the layout code TBC compatible
08:00.07Mikmanow i'm hunting down the one kicking me off from servers
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08:01.11vhaarrckknight: http://pastie.caboo.se/18951
08:01.28vhaarrisn't that the error you fixed?
08:02.07vhaarrI just see that it was posted 50min ago
08:02.45Mikmackknight: the thing is that i don't know what's the situation that makes this happen, sometimes i can play for 2h straight and sometimes it happens between 10mins
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08:05.42Mikmackknight: the thing is that i don't know what's the situation that makes this happen, sometimes i can play for 2h straight and sometimes it happens between 10mins
08:07.42CIA-1703rabbit * r14805 10FuBar_MiniPerfsFu/MiniPerfsFu.lua: FuBar_MiniPerfsFu: Bugfix.
08:08.57Industrial< haste> Industrial: Download Samurai Champploo
08:08.58Industrialseen it
08:09.01IndustrialMikma: pong
08:09.15MikmaIndustrial: i was just wondering something but then realized i don't need it
08:09.23Industriallol :p
08:10.21Mikmawell i thought aguf was causing my game to crash/freeze but it wasn't it
08:10.25Mikmait happened with normal uf's too
08:11.07KalamadiIndustrial: Have you seen Serial Experiments Lain or Haibane Renmei?
08:11.21Industriallain yes
08:11.24Industrialit ownd
08:11.26Industrialed*
08:11.29KalamadiAye, yes
08:11.46KalamadiHaibane Renmei is another 13-episode series made by Yoshitoshi Abe
08:12.13KalamadiAnd another series where it's worth watching the first 12 episodes just to understand the impact of the 13th
08:13.23Industrialyeah thats fun
08:13.52CIA-1703sairen * r14806 10Bartender2_Circled/core.lua:
08:13.52CIA-17Bartender2_Circled:
08:13.52CIA-17- Skins are dynamically inserted on line 183 (no need to manually add them).
08:15.16KalamadiIt's not exactly the same flavour as Lain, however.
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08:17.20Mikmahmm, Peter Jackson has lost weight
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08:19.01Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2740
08:19.03Mikmathere we go :)
08:19.38Mikmabye boss2
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08:20.42MikmaWOBBLY!
08:22.07[Wobin]Miklemas!
08:22.10MikmaIndustrial: my wife surprised me. i went to bed at 04:00 (gmt+2)
08:22.32MikmaIndustrial: i woke up at 9:30 (gee, gmt+2 again) and she had been playing PvP all the time :P she hates pvp
08:22.55MikmaIndustrial: and the thing is, she's the maintank of the guild she's in, 6/8 of T2 already :P
08:23.06KalamadiMan, I hate being young. I hear "my wife surprised me" and I think the most dreadful things.
08:23.25Sairenlol
08:23.44Mikmai got 750 hk's yesterday while playing
08:23.49Mikmawell she got 850
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08:27.54FISKER_Qyeah 4am in the morning + a surprise from the wife wasn't exactly pvp i was expecting
08:28.01FISKER_Qwell yes pvp, but more like coop right?
08:28.03FISKER_Q:P
08:29.13Mikmayou perverts
08:30.17Icerothhaha
08:30.43MikmaIceroth: how's things in Hervanta?
08:30.51Icerothgreay
08:31.00Mikmaaww :P
08:31.00Iceroths/a//
08:31.08Mikmait's orange/yellow in here
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08:31.16Mikmafyi, i can see alot of trees :D
08:32.54Greywindhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5493-HealBot.html
08:33.33GreywindIf I wasnet avoiding my guild atm I would try it out on my druid
08:34.10MikmaGreywind: lol :)
08:34.38Mikmathat's like perfectraid + clique in one
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08:37.02Greywindwhat is a coroutine?
08:37.51Mikmaco.routine? :D
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08:38.26Greywindnvm wikipedia to the rescue
08:38.36Greywindhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coroutine
08:39.38Greywindnvm didnt help :P
08:39.41pastamancerhaha
08:39.59Greywindlol
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08:40.49[Wobin]http://lua-users.org/wiki/CoroutinesTutorial
08:41.52Greywindoooooh thanks [Wobin]
08:43.18Greywindah its sort of like a function..well in my simple terms anyways
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08:45.40manubhi guys
08:46.10manubI haven't figured how to put groups out on the screen with oRA2, anyone can tell me this? many thx ^^
08:46.32Greywindora2 doesnt have raidframes mate
08:46.53GreywindI use perfectraid myself
08:47.03manubkk
08:47.11manubthey can be used together with ora2, right?
08:47.17Greywindyup i do :)
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08:47.20Mikmaofc not xD
08:47.24manubxD
08:47.27manubtrying out now, thanks
08:47.29Mikmawe all use CTRA here
08:47.41Greywind:P
08:47.44KalamadiOh! Oh! Violence!
08:47.49Mikmaouch! stop bitchslapping me!
08:47.58Mikma~steveballmer Kalamadi
08:48.06purlACTION dances on Kalamadi while screaming, "I. LOVE. THIS. COMPANY!!"
08:48.10Industrialhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ii_%28IRC_Client%29
08:48.13Industrialhe finally made it
08:48.13Greywindrofl
08:48.14Industrial:o
08:48.26KalamadiOh the pain! THE PAIN ;_;
08:48.45IndustrialDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS
08:49.18Greywindhmm looks interesting if slightly geeky....me likes Industrial
08:49.21Mikma~steveballmer Industrial
08:49.22purlACTION dances on Industrial while screaming, "I. LOVE. THIS. COMPANY!!"
08:49.25Greywindlol
08:49.27Mikmaboo!
08:49.32Mikma~steveballmer Industrial
08:49.33purlACTION dances on top of Industrial like a monkey"
08:49.42Mikma" ?
08:49.51Mikma~literal steveballmer
08:49.53purl"steveballmer" is "<action> ( throws a chair at $nick | bounces on $nick screaming, "DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS!!"| dances on $nick while screaming, "I. LOVE. THIS. COMPANY!!"| throws an AL at $nick screaming, COMPETITIONCOMPETITIONCOMPETITON!! | roars "I'll f*cking KILL $nick!" | dances like a monkey ontop of $nick)"
08:50.06abbatahaha ;)
08:50.25abbatthis is from steve balmer video about 'developers'? :)
08:50.43Mikmapurl: no, steveballmer is <action> ( throws a chair at $nick | bounces on $nick screaming, "DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS!!"| dances on $nick while screaming, "I. LOVE. THIS. COMPANY!!"| throws an AL at $nick screaming, COMPETITIONCOMPETITIONCOMPETITON!! | roars "I'll f*cking KILL $nick!" | dances like a monkey ontop of $nick)
08:50.45purli already had it that way, Mikma
08:50.52Mikmaabbat: yes
08:51.18abbati have one video, he just run and jumping and cry 'DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!' ;)
08:51.42[Wobin]~steveballmer
08:51.43purlACTION dances on [wobin] while screaming, "I. LOVE. THIS. COMPANY!!"
08:51.44abbatand talk about windows after ;)
08:52.15Greywindthats an amazing feat seeing as purl doesnt have any legs :P
08:52.23KalamadiAre you sure?
08:52.35[Wobin]~legs
08:53.59Greywindscary website http://www.knitiot.com/
08:54.21Greywindand dont ask how i found it either >.>
08:54.26Greywind<.<
08:54.43KalamadiHey, if that's all a girl's wearing...
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08:54.50KalamadiI don't see how that could be interpreted as a bad thing.
08:55.03[Wobin]...
08:55.15[Wobin]been knitting, have we, Grey?
08:55.24Kalamadi>_>
08:55.30KalamadiClick the link, [Wobin]
08:55.49Greywindhmm Kalamadi does have apoint
08:56.13Greywindof course does it really matter what the shirt says?
08:56.16Greywind:P
08:56.37KalamadiSomewhat
08:56.52KalamadiDepends how much they want you to stare.
08:57.09KalamadiAlso, how willing one is to point out that fact.
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08:57.53[Wobin]I'm seeing shirts
08:57.56[Wobin]and no girls
08:58.16KalamadiYou're not creative.
08:58.17Greywindhttp://purlsideofthemoon.typepad.com/knit/images/wildman_closeup_1.jpg
08:58.22KalamadiOr young and imaginitive, really.
08:58.23Greywinddemon puppy 4tw!
08:58.25Kalamadi:P
08:58.31[Wobin]=(
08:59.10Greywindits amazing what you can find when you are bored and typing random words into google picture search :P
08:59.17[Wobin]...
08:59.20[Wobin]I'm not creative?
09:00.15Greywindpanderen babby http://thepandablog.com/wp-content/images/13.pic.jpg
09:00.17[Wobin]Do you really need the prop of random teeshirts with knitting mottos on them to visualise a women with them on? =P
09:00.18Greywind:P
09:00.30Greywindno sir :D
09:00.40Kalamadi[Wobin]: No, but I won't pass up an opportunity
09:00.52[Wobin]you must have a ball at cafepress =P
09:01.03KalamadiI prefer 4chan.
09:01.20IndustrialI have seen enough.
09:01.37Kalamadi<_<     >_>
09:01.37Mikmawould you buy a pandadog?
09:02.00IndustrialMikma: dogs suck
09:02.12Industrialpets suck, anyway
09:02.17CIA-1703snago * r14807 10SnagoUF/ (Creation.lua UnitFrame.lua): SnagoUF: Added colored borders for debuffs
09:02.23MikmaIndustrial: no, not really. i would like to have a dog so i would have to go out every now and then
09:02.34Mikmathese cat's aren't for person that want's to go out
09:02.43Mikma~tuplad
09:02.45purlhttp://www.taikamaailma.org/gallery/Sekavaa/1080065830042.jpg
09:02.49Industriallol
09:03.19DarkImakunilol
09:03.23IndustrialI have special powers, though
09:03.40DarkImakuniwhat like? :)
09:03.42Industrial*naughty face*
09:03.48DarkImakunio.O
09:03.56Kalamadi=3
09:04.55[Wobin]kinky
09:04.55Kalamadi=O !
09:04.55DarkImakunilol
09:04.56Industriallol
09:04.56KalamadiNobel prize, here I come!
09:06.02DarkImakunickknight: are you sure it's deprec<b>i</b>ate, not deprecate? :)
09:06.07DarkImakunidoh
09:06.27ckknightit's deprecate
09:06.32Greywindaww who killed the puppy http://pictures.humpingfrog.com/5393/2005/10/cutest-dog-ever.html
09:06.32ckknightI've never put depreciate
09:06.40ckknightdepreciate is a common misspelling
09:06.55XLVII~seen Sairen
09:07.08purlsairen is currently on #wowace (1h 42m 42s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 43m 43s, last said: 'lol'.
09:07.08Sairenhere
09:07.36ckknightwhere's depreciate?
09:07.51XLVIIError: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/trunk/Bartender2'  
09:07.51XLVIIError: PROPFIND of '/wowace/trunk/Bartender2': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://www.svn.wowace.com)  
09:08.02XLVIII'm using the URL: http://www.svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Bartender2/
09:08.15Sairenwithout www.
09:08.15DarkImakuniremove the www. part
09:08.24XLVIIOh..
09:08.25XLVIIlol.
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09:09.01XLVIIThanks
09:09.28Greywindis it just me or are they trying to smother this cat :P http://gallery.svee.org/albums/cfa9-25-04/CFA%20Show%2025-Sept-2004%20024a.jpg
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09:10.16Greywindof course with a cat that ugly i think i would smother it too
09:10.21KalamadiYeah, I'd smother that :x
09:10.23[Wobin]~define depreciate
09:10.27purlUse ~dict for definitions.
09:10.32[Wobin]~dict depreciate
09:10.44[Wobin]~dict deprecate
09:11.00Greywindthats a lot of word
09:11.06DarkImakuni~wiki deprecate
09:11.27DarkImakuniI see
09:11.34[Wobin]http://www.answers.com/depreciate&r=67
09:11.35DarkImakunidamned computer jargon :P
09:11.35Greywindrofl http://members.tripod.com/SerenityCardShop/images/cat4.jpg
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09:12.46[Wobin]well no
09:12.51[Wobin]it's not that it's a misspelling
09:12.55[Wobin]it's just a different term
09:13.01ckknightyea
09:13.12ckknightGold has depreciated in value
09:13.17ckknightThat feature was deprecated
09:13.30[Wobin]It -could- be both used, but deprecate is more accurate
09:14.33Greywinddouble you tee eff http://www.users.qwest.net/~mgmartin6245/scary%20cat.jpg
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09:15.52KalamadiI really have to bloody stop using the touchpad to close windows
09:16.03KalamadiI keep closing firefox and my chat client at the same time >_<
09:16.26Greywindyummy http://www.funny.co.uk/stuff/art_175-3996-Dogsandwich.html
09:18.11Greywindok ZG raid is over I can play WoW now :P
09:18.34axxosomething tells me you wiped alot
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09:19.04XLVIIhttp://ceilingcat.com
09:19.14Mikmatek: have you noticed the neat little "disappearing ui" bug with Popsicle? :D (try pressing worldmap and see)
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09:21.42Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2742.0
09:22.38ckknightAs a paladin, what talent tree should I pursue?
09:22.50Mikmackknight: dpsdin for leveling
09:22.59Mikmalet's see what wiki says
09:23.02ckknightwhich tree is that?
09:23.13FISKER_Qretribution
09:23.14Mikmahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Paladin_builds
09:23.30Mikmahttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=qxZxhZEbetMcqo
09:23.38FISKER_Qare you playing a blood elf loladin?
09:24.01Mikmanow that's a neat tree
09:24.16FISKER_Q"Be aware of your guild's raiding policy, especially regarding loot. Most sub-AQ DPS paladin gear is also desired by other classes. The DPS of these other classes may be more highly valued than your own, thereby giving them "priority" on these items. Either make clear the items you plan to get or communicate with the Warriors and Hunters beforehand."
09:24.17FISKER_Qhaha
09:24.18FISKER_Q0wned
09:25.22FISKER_Qi think i'll go play fisk on a palad
09:25.24FISKER_Qdin
09:25.38ckknightI'm a Draenei ;-)
09:26.29KalamadiHave other racials been buffed to compete with Draenei and Blood Elf?
09:26.37FISKER_Qnope
09:27.01KalamadiSo sad.
09:27.31FISKER_Qyeah
09:27.46FISKER_Qalso sucks that animations and sounds aren't being updated either
09:28.03KalamadiPaladin ones are >_>
09:28.32FISKER_Qi mean character model
09:28.37KalamadiOh.
09:28.41FISKER_Qa lot of spell animations/sounds have been updated :)
09:28.55ckknightwhy is there a need to update them?
09:29.31KalamadiBecause, now that paladin is available to horde, they had to make it more appealing :P
09:30.11ckknightno, I mean, character models
09:31.49FISKER_Qbecause they're updated in comparison to older models
09:32.31ckknightI don't consider them all that more advanced...
09:33.08FISKER_QAnd the sounds because i think it's stupid that they've been deleting some emotes without giving us new ones
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09:33.19KalamadiWell, the draenei females DO look more developed.
09:33.21FISKER_Qalthough they're already doing that with the draenei and blood elves :P
09:33.27Snagohaste here?
09:33.55CIA-1703schelli * r14811 10FuBar_PotHerbFu/ (6 files in 2 dirs): .FuBar_PotHerbFu first release upload
09:34.23ckknightwhat emotes have been deleted?
09:34.43FISKER_QOne of the troll ones were deleted pretty recently
09:34.50FISKER_Qcause it was making a reference to drugs
09:35.01ckknighthrm...
09:35.11KalamadiAww. Are they going to now be removing the hooka model?
09:36.28NeronixUIParent needs to throttle its OnUpdate >.>
09:36.52Mikmaok let's have another look of popsicle
09:36.58Mikmaafter that i'm going back to pvp
09:37.26CIA-1703schelli * r14812 10FuBar_PotHerbFu/: FuBar_PotHerbFu : added externals
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09:51.01samwisei downloaded the most recent versions of bugsack&bugrabber but now my chatwindow gets flooded with BugSack\\BugSack-deDE.lua:3: attempt to call global `AceLibrary' (a nil value)\nBugSack\\BugSack-deDE.lua:3: in main chunk\n\n  
09:51.10samwisecan anyone help me?
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09:59.22Mikmait's funyn thing about mac
09:59.29Mikmait's not case-sensitive at all
09:59.33Mikmai'll show you an example
09:59.40KalamadiI never though macaroni was case-sensitive.
09:59.46Kalamadis/though/thought/
09:59.52XLVIIwho posted the link to a Korpiklaani video?
09:59.55Mikmamikma@[~/Desktop/World of Warcraft/XX_DEFAULT]: ls
09:59.57MikmaInterface  WDB  WTF
10:00.13Mikmamikma@[~/Desktop/World of Warcraft/XX_DEFAULT]: cd wdb
10:00.13Mikmamikma@[~/Desktop/World of Warcraft/XX_DEFAULT/wdb]: ls
10:00.16Mikma.. :P
10:00.34Mikmaand it's not XXX it's XX
10:00.58Mikmamikma@[~/Desktop/World of Warcraft/xx_default]:   :P
10:03.27samwisenoone? this bugsack errors are very annoying
10:04.29Industrialsamwise: update the externals
10:05.32samwisewhat externals?
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10:08.03XLVIIIf I want to uh..
10:08.18XLVIIRemove all my settings so I can start over with my AddOns
10:08.22samwisei downloaded busack&buggrabber the most recent fiels of 21.10   What else do i need, Industrial?
10:08.26XLVIII deleted the WTF and WDB folders right?
10:11.04nevcairielckknight_: ping
10:11.10ckknight_pong
10:11.22nevcairielyou lied in your acehook-2.1 commit log last night.
10:11.31ckknight_I did?
10:12.02nevcairielUsing `, true` at the end of a :Hook should work now <-- how can it when you always call hookFunction and hookMethod with secure=false no matter what i call :Hook with ? :)
10:12.38XLVIIIs there an AddOn that lets you set the UI Scale?
10:12.48XLVIII want it at exactly .80
10:12.55ckknight_nevcairiel, it makes it so it doesn't error on hooking secure functions
10:12.56CIA-1703nimbal * r14814 10Buffalo/ (5 files):
10:12.56CIA-17Buffalo:
10:12.56CIA-17*fixed some translation issues
10:12.59ckknight_not that it hooks it securely
10:13.03ckknight_that's what :SecureHook does.
10:13.27nevcairielit does nothing except not fail ?
10:13.35nevcairielthat the intended use ? :D
10:13.47ckknight_yes.
10:13.52SairenXLVII:  /console set uiScale 0.8
10:14.18nevcairielwhy dont you hook it secure if i set the true? any reason?
10:15.03samwisei downloaded busack&buggrabber the most recent fiels of 21.10   What else do i need, industrial talked about externals?
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10:15.26ckknight_nevcairiel, because secure hooks are a completely different beast than insecure hooks
10:15.33ckknight_:Hook always does it insecurely
10:15.39ckknight_:SecureHook does it securely
10:16.12LoppzorWhat happens if you hook a secure function insecurely? What breaks?
10:16.21ckknight_if you use :Hook on a secure function, it'll error
10:16.25ckknight_unless you put in the override
10:16.30ckknight_the true argument
10:16.47nevcairieland with the override, it wont do anything. well, try to hook insecure, and prolly fail, or?
10:17.00ckknight_it'll hook it, insecurely
10:17.02ckknight_that's all
10:17.19LoppzorAnd what happens then?
10:17.20nevcairieli thought we cannot hook secure funcs the "old" way :o
10:17.48ckknight_yes you can, they just become insecure.
10:17.56nevcairielah.
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10:18.52CIA-1703darkimakuni * r14815 10FuBar_KungFu/KungFu.lua:
10:18.52CIA-17FuBar_KungFu:
10:18.52CIA-17- Removed AceHook, as it's not used.
10:19.08nevcairielokay, that cleared my fuzzy head a bit :)
10:19.13LoppzorBut what's the bad part about them becoming insecure?
10:19.33nevcairielthey cannot use other protected stuff anymore
10:20.01LoppzorAh. Now I get it
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10:20.33LoppzorBtw. Is GetAceOptionsDataTable SUPPOSED to not work properly for more than one addon or am I missing something?
10:21.37ckknightdon't know what you mean
10:22.39LoppzorWell because it declares it's returned table outside of the function it only gets populated once. So the first addon to call it gets a nice, fresh table and then all other addons to call it get the same table as the first
10:23.16ckknightyea
10:23.21ckknightno problem there
10:23.59vhaarrckknight: how can I generate an error in a AceAddon?
10:24.04LoppzorYes? In AceDB this means that all addons get a table containing the profiles and what-not of the first addon. And that can't be right
10:24.05vhaarrckknight: self.error(...) errors :P
10:24.14ckknightcolon syntax
10:24.19vhaarrah
10:24.26ckknightwait, in your proper addon?
10:24.29ckknightjust use the global error.
10:24.30vhaarryes
10:24.39vhaarroh
10:24.57ckknight:error(...) is only for libraries
10:26.37LoppzorCause all addons aren't supposed to have the same profiles, right? If so somethings messy there instead...
10:27.18ckknightLoppzor, hrm, I think AceDB creates separate tables per addon
10:27.36KalamadiAs long as you register the table correctly, yeah.
10:27.58LoppzorFor me it doesn't..
10:28.30LoppzorLike I said it's got it's table declaration outside the function. Which is fine for like AceAddon but not for AceDB
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10:29.36fenlis|AFKhi all :)
10:29.47ckknighthey fenlis|AFK
10:29.51Loppzorlo fenlis|AFK
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10:31.35LoppzorSo for me if addon1 has profile a and calls GetAceOptionsDataTable, that works fine. But if then addon2 with profiles b and c calls it, it gets the same table as addon1 with profile a
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10:33.05hasteSnago: I am now
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10:33.46Mikmaso... anyone can tell me a simple way of doing this:
10:34.06Mikmai am using chat dock/undock ... but the problem is the chat won't remember it's position before docking
10:35.22vhaarrckknight: could we get a :HasLocale in AL-2.2, or should I just :IterateAvailableLocales every time?
10:35.38ckknight:HasLocale seems alright to add
10:37.03ckknightyou are totally right, Loppzor
10:37.24LoppzorWay! Go me.. :P
10:37.46CIA-1703darkimakuni * r14816 10oRA2/Participant/ (CoolDown.lua Resurrection.lua):
10:37.46CIA-17oRA2:
10:37.46CIA-17- AceHook 2.1 is your friend
10:37.50hasteHoly shit
10:37.52hasteFlash 9 for Linux
10:38.13ckknightbtw, Elekks are cool.
10:38.22grzesieqIT'S THE CAPSLOCK DAY
10:38.25grzesieqhttp://www.derekarnold.net/capslockday/
10:38.29ckknightstomp stomp stomp
10:38.42ckknightgrzesieq, I suggest not continuing.
10:39.13vhaarr~seen darkimakuni
10:39.29purldarkimakuni <n=mju@adsl-83-100-174-185.karoo.KCOM.COM> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 27m 1s ago, saying: 'ckknight 1, DarkImakuni 0'.
10:39.29grzesieq:>
10:39.33vhaarrIf you're committing stuff to SVN, why are you not on IRC?
10:39.43grzesieqgah, ':>' looks crap on this font :(
10:40.43Kalamadivhaarr: What if he has two machines?
10:40.53GamefaqKaelten are you there?
10:40.53KalamadiI commit on my windows box over yonder, but chat on my lappy here
10:41.00vhaarrKalamadi: What if I don't care?
10:41.03vhaarrHe should be here.
10:41.20KalamadiYou asked a question. I answered, albeit rhetorically.
10:41.59Gamefaqi wonder what on onebag is different to other ace2 addons, everytime acelocale and so on is something chnaged oneview/ring is broken
10:43.10vhaarrKalamadi: My question was rhetorical as well :)
10:43.55KalamadiEh. I don't like debating rhetorics when I'm disfocused
10:44.34vhaarrI'm not debating anything.
10:44.35KalamadiDisfocused? Unfocused, yeah
10:44.59KalamadiYour question isn't rhetoric because it has a possible answer; mine was merely prepositional
10:45.02ckknightGamefaq, it was using AceLocale-2.1
10:45.16ckknightI upgraded it to AceLocale-2.2 earlier today
10:46.00Gamefaqwenn i updated onebag/ring....one first login JACKPOT you have 76 erros :)
10:46.06Gamefaqwenn = well
10:46.09vhaarrKalamadi: So you're telling me rhetorical questions can't have possible answers? That's bullshit.
10:46.33vhaarrKalamadi: What defines a rhetorical question is that it was asked to produce an effect.
10:46.39CartasWas that rhetorical? :O
10:46.50KalamadiIt's a question meant to produce thought
10:46.55KalamadiNot to produce an answer
10:47.02vhaarrRight, and it CAN have possible answers.
10:47.20KalamadiRight. But you're debating the wrong thing
10:47.25vhaarrI'm not debating anything.
10:47.31KalamadiYes, you are :P
10:47.36vhaarrI'm correcting your mistakes.
10:47.37Gamefaqthe errors came from oneRing and oneView onebank/onebag works perfect
10:47.58vhaarrKalamadi: There's a difference between telling you in your face that your wrong and debating the issue with you.
10:48.20Kalamadivhaarr: And there's a difference between telling me I'm wrong and failing to prove as much :P
10:48.24FISKER_QWRONG!
10:48.26FISKER_Qerr
10:48.44vhaarrKalamadi: Look it up in your dictionary then.
10:48.53Kalamadivhaarr: Around three minutes ahead of you.
10:49.12vhaarrKalamadi: Rhetorical questions can have possible answers and are only intended to produce an effect (or thought, as you said).
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10:49.22vhaarrFine, I'll look it up as well.
10:49.27CIA-1703ckknight * r14817 10FuBar_MoneyFu/MoneyFu.lua: FuBar_MoneyFu - added pairs()
10:49.30Kalamadivhaarr: But the intent is not to produce an answer
10:49.39vhaarrBut it can have answers.
10:49.41vhaarrAnd you said it could not.
10:49.47KalamadiI was in err
10:49.47vhaarrSo you were wrong.
10:49.51vhaarreod.
10:50.04KalamadiThe whole thing was moot from the beginning
10:50.22CartasReally, what is rhetorical?
10:50.22vhaarrA rhetorical question can't be moot.
10:50.22KalamadiRhetorics are only primarily effective in speech by definition
10:50.31CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14818 10Ace2/Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB - changed :GetAceOptionsDataTable() to return unique tables.
10:50.49KalamadiSo, since I took your rhetoric as literal, I went on this whole tirade :P
10:51.03ckknightalright
10:51.10ckknightwell, Copy From should work now.
10:51.20LoppzorAh, sweet
10:51.20CIA-1703ckknight * r14819 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB - changed :GetAceOptionsDataTable() to return unique tables.
10:51.26CartasThanks CKKnight, old chap!
10:51.28ckknightshould
10:51.32ckknightI haven't really tested
10:51.37LoppzorWell it looks good
10:51.41LoppzorI'll give it a whirl
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11:03.51Snagoo.O What just happened?
11:03.51samwiseserver-error , i guess
11:03.51KalamadiNetsplit?
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11:08.17Mikmahmm
11:08.17Mikmathat's interesting
11:08.17Mikmachatframes aren't anchored into anything
11:09.12hasteUIParent here
11:09.12hasteChatFrame1 that is
11:09.12Mikmawell i get an error with ChatFrame3
11:09.12hasteDo you have a third chatframe?
11:10.08Mikmayes :)
11:10.08hasteworks on all seven here
11:10.56Mikmalocal point,relativeTo,relativePoint,xOfs,yOfs = ChatFrame1:GetPoint()
11:10.56Mikmathen trying to print  them i get an error
11:10.56Mikma(and yes, i use relativeTo:GetName())
11:11.27hasteoh, I just did /print ChatFrame1:GetParent():GetName()
11:11.51Mikmahmm
11:11.53Mikmainteresting
11:11.53hasteI have bad experience with GetPoint()
11:12.11hasteIt usually crashes the client when you used it on a frame which has just been moved, or is moving
11:12.46Mikmaaye
11:12.49Mikmathat happened to me :D
11:13.05Mikmai'm trying to make a smart "recall" on chat position
11:13.08hasteI think it's only on Lua created frames also
11:13.12Mikmabut don't think i'm able to do it
11:13.36vhaarrckknight: How's |function AceLocale.prototype:HasLocale(locale) AceLocale.argCheck(self, locale, 2, "string") return self[TRANSLATION_TABLES][locale] ~= nil end| for a :HasLocale impl?
11:15.27vhaarrbrb 20min
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11:32.45[Ammo]darkimakuni: why are you screwing around with oRA2?
11:32.56[Ammo]and changing the hooking that I tried to get bloody working
11:33.13[Ammo]if I wanted you to change it, I'd ask
11:33.14[Ammo]grrr
11:34.01ag`if I want to use the !!!Libs addon, do I have to remove externals from all addons or will their libs just get overwritten?
11:35.32CIA-1703greywind * r14820 10Shifter2/Shifter2-enUS.lua:
11:35.32CIA-17Shifter2:
11:35.32CIA-17- typoes 4tw
11:37.02darkShrimpanyone knows the addon "BlueSpirit"?
11:37.12Sairen-.-
11:37.56CIA-1703ammo * r14821 10oRA2/Participant/ (CoolDown.lua Resurrection.lua):
11:37.56CIA-17oRA2:
11:37.56CIA-17* Darkimakuni, don't do that again or I'll have your head
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11:43.26Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2741.new#new
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11:47.51DarkImakuni[Ammo]: Fine! Be that way! I was only trying to help!
11:48.23[Ammo]you changed only a 2.0 to a 2.1
11:48.26[Ammo]you did not change the externals
11:48.37[Ammo]you did not check your code
11:48.37[Ammo]and you forgot numerous things
11:48.46[Ammo]it does not work like that
11:49.30waffleckknight: the new fubar_moneyfu also breaks a lot of my addons with the following trace from bugsack.  http://pastie.caboo.se/18977  i'm pretty sure i have the newest libraries.
11:50.35PC`Quantuvisjust got the same Waffle
11:51.02vhaarrwaffle: I think you don't.
11:51.06vhaarrYour AceHook is old.
11:52.09waffleOk.  I just used WinAceUpdater to update all of my addons and to update !!!Libs.  Are the zip files it pulls from /files/ delayed from the newest stuff on SVN?
11:52.19PC`Quantuvisi just updated everything, and only moneyfu throws an error
11:53.09CIA-1703mikma * r14822 10Popsicle/: Popsicle: Since this bugs and i don't know how to fix it, i just wait for dreamchat and delete this
11:53.30waffle!!!Libs - Already at rev 14512 - Skipping
11:54.44waffleLooking in the AceHook-2.1.lua file, it says it's rev 14013.  Is that the newest?
11:54.51Mikmafuck popsicle
11:54.58waffle:(
11:55.53KalamadiMmm, popsicles.
11:57.42KalamadiI'm watching the FMA movie, and, yay! Nazis!
11:59.29hasteKalamadi: FMA movie is pretty good
11:59.57Mikmatek: if you wan't to fix Popsicle, be my guest. i just deleted it from svn
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12:02.45PC`QuantuvisWaffle: http://www.wowace.com/files/Ace2/Ace2-r14819.zip <- dump that into your !!!Libs - fixes the error that MoneyFu throws
12:03.09Legionhowdy, there is somethign wrong with the dl of the aceupdater
12:03.30Kalamadihaste: I'm still waiting for everything to make sense :/
12:04.53vhaarrckknight: you around?
12:05.04wafflePC`Quantuvis: ah. ok.  is this an older version of acehook-2.1? looks like it.
12:05.09hasteKalamadi: It will, to a certain limit
12:05.49CIA-1703ammo * r14823 10oRA2/ (Leader/MainTank.lua Participant/MainTank.lua):
12:05.49CIA-17oRA2:
12:05.49CIA-17* patch by progman for MT setting and all removing + deDE tank death
12:06.17PC`QuantuvisI think the !!!Libs version of AceHook is a few revisions older - there's a revision from this morning that fixed an AceHook-2.1 error
12:06.32waffleI'd like to test it but I get stuck at Connected :(
12:06.54wafflelocal MAJOR_VERSION = "AceHook-2.1"
12:06.55wafflelocal MINOR_VERSION = "$Revision: 14013 $"
12:07.05waffleoops
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12:14.21sbu'morning
12:14.45FtH|eagleag`: should grouping work in the tbc version?
12:15.54sbuuhm, pinpoint doesnt save positions accross sessions, right? (so no db stuff at all)
12:16.38[Ammo]ofcourse it does
12:16.47sbumhhhh
12:16.47[Ammo]what use would it be if it didn't?
12:16.57sbuyah thats the point
12:17.13sbubut i dont see any ores after relogging :o
12:18.11[Ammo]ores might be br0ken
12:18.22[Ammo]because I only worked on herb
12:18.34sbumh
12:18.35sbu[1] = "Rich Thorium:84.56:85.52",
12:18.41sbuits in there, but i dont see any on my map
12:18.52sbushould also show on worldmap if im not in this zone!?
12:21.51ag`FtH|eagle: no, not yet
12:22.02FtH|eaglethought so :/(
12:22.12ag`just place frames individually
12:23.00wafflePC`Quantuvis: cool, that fixed it. ty.
12:26.23ag`Ah, there's nothing better than getting up of bed at 14PM and grabbing a cold coke from the fridge
12:26.25Kalamadihaste: Mmm, bloody
12:32.51sbuag`: hmmm - cold beer? :p
12:33.39ag`I need caffeine and sugar :P
12:33.42Sairenag`: barbcrawl and pubcrawl the same?
12:33.52ag`barbrawl is for BC
12:33.56ag`pubcrawl is for wow vanilla
12:33.59Sairenk
12:34.18ag`as far as I know, barbrawl is the most usable action bar addon for BC currently
12:34.29ag`flexbar2 will probably own it sometime in the future
12:34.46ag`only thing not working is stances
12:34.49Sairenyea I'll want to see if I can write a plugin for _circled style
12:35.21ag`I am thinking of rewriting it from start
12:35.28ag`so it pools button ids
12:35.46ag`like flex/dab
12:36.11ag`While I love flexbar/dab addon bars they do too many things but doesn't provide an easy gui
12:36.32ag`barbrawl/pubcrawl approach is very powerful but simple
12:36.46ag`as it allows all configuration through the drop down menu
12:37.19ag`while it will never do as many scripts and shit like flex/dab, it does everything I need, like having multiple bars with stance change etc
12:38.52Sairenwould it be hard to add "double-functionality" so LeftButton = "throw button" and RIghtButton ="eat cake"?
12:38.54sbumhhh is it possible to search for multiple items with /raitem? (ora)
12:39.10sbumhh, guess its not
12:39.23Sairenwhat I mean different actions when using left/right mouse button ^^
12:40.54ag`Sairen: that's very easy
12:41.03Sairenag`: would be a cool feature :)
12:41.29ag`but as it is an action bar the actions should be draggable to bar
12:41.34ag`that would mean that
12:41.49ag`leftclick = page1 action and rightclick = page2 ation
12:44.31Neronixag`: Vanilla wow will be using the 2.0 codebase too
12:44.40Neronixso it'll have all the secure stuff and whatnot
12:44.43snurrehm, onebag and errormonster bugging with acehook2.1
12:45.23CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r14824 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files):
12:45.23CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
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12:45.39snurre[2006/10/22 14:45:13-869]: ag_UnitFrames\ag_UnitFrames.lua:287: bad argument #1 to `pairs' (table expected, got nil)
12:45.55vhaarrsnurre: Are you sure you updated ErrorMonster?
12:49.09snurrehm, something is not right here.. just updated all my addons.. oskin, aguf, squeenix and onebag are all nonfunctional
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12:54.38wafflesuure
12:54.40wafflei had the same prob
12:54.47waffle07:02 < PC`Quantuvis> Waffle: http://www.wowace.com/files/Ace2/Ace2-r14819.zip <- dump that into your !!!Libs - fixes the error that MoneyFu throws
12:54.50waffle^^ fixed
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12:55.46vhaarrGamefaq: pm
12:56.45snurregiving up on using !!!Libs for now.. tried it, but it only causes problems like this
12:56.49snurreso fuck that
12:57.20wafflewell, i installed !!!Libs, and then got that ace2 zip, and overwrote the ace2 folder in libs with that one, and it fixed all my problems
12:57.39snurrehappens too often to bother tbh
12:57.46snurremight aswell just install all addons with externals
12:57.59snurreat least it doesnt break twice every day then
12:58.39waffleheh. i already do install all addons with externals, and i was having the same probs.  couldn't get the newest version of ace2-hook for some reason. ;/
13:00.31snurrehm, that didnt help either :(
13:00.47CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r14825 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_FrameTemplate.xml ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):
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13:00.47snurre[2006/10/22 15:00:12-870]: OneBag\OneCore.lua:460: AceLocale(OneBag): Translation "IterateAvailableLocales" does not exist.
13:00.48snurre[2006/10/22 15:00:20-870]: ErrorMonster\ErrorMonster.lua:69: AceHook-2.1: Could not find the handler you supplied when hooking method "AddMessage"
13:01.07snurreand aguf, squeenix, oskin are still not working
13:01.22waffleyeah. all the errors i got where "Could not find the handler ... " and half my addons broke.  it got fixed when i upgraded to the newest acehook from that zip file.
13:01.24snurreactually aguf is
13:01.49ag`I am pretty sure aguf works *fine* in BC
13:02.16snurreoh yeah, works fine in bc
13:02.47wafflecuz it was like updated this morning.  you tried that one?
13:02.51Wobinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJiNEU7gTN0
13:02.56WobinI'm glad I'm short =P
13:03.00snurrei updated everything i had 7 mins ago
13:03.16snurrehm, that ace2 folder solved it
13:03.28snurreso the other libraries are fucked somehow
13:05.45waffleyeah
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13:18.09ag`snurre: do you use the ace2 libs folder?
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13:21.49snurreused !!!Libs, now i have externals for all addons + Ace2 folder
13:23.18ag`so just putting in BC !!!Libs works, so you don't have to change externals for each and every addon?
13:24.59snurreim talking live, not BC here ;)
13:25.39ag`hm ok
13:26.06ag`ckknight: is fubar2 "released" yet?
13:33.36vhaarrCan I somehow reference something defined as local inside a single Lua file from the global scope?
13:34.00clad|sleeponly if you store that reference somewhere else.
13:34.01vhaarrLike addon X's main lua file declares "local foo = 'bar'", can I get foo outside of that lua file somehow?
13:34.15clad|sleepSomeTable.foo = foo
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13:34.20vhaarrokay, thanks
13:36.55NeronixThe difference between Ace1.x's AceEvent and AceEvent-2.0 scares me
13:37.30NeronixAnyone mind if I write a really stripped down event lib? (Events and custom events only. No timing, scheduling, bucketing, etc)
13:39.14NeronixThe idea is, if you don't need all those advanced features that AE2 provides, use this small one
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13:51.07cladhaireag`: you around?
13:51.09cladhairelol
13:51.17cladhaireme waves
13:52.42evl_Hmms
13:52.56evl_has pinpoint been discountinued/renamed?
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13:56.10NeronixSo the lack of response means nobody would mind if I go ahead...
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14:04.22Mikma~steveballmer
14:04.28purlACTION bounces on mikma screaming, "DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS!!"
14:04.32CIA-1703aileen * r14827 10FuBar_FarmerFu/ (FarmerFu.lua FuBar_FarmerFu.toc README.txt): FuBar_FarmerFu - disabled remove menu when all items are cleared
14:05.43Saroz~steveballmer
14:05.46purlACTION roars "I'll f*cking KILL saroz!"
14:05.52Saroz:(
14:07.37Mikmameh
14:08.20CIA-1703sairen * r14828 10cyCircled/: cyCircled: Created folder remotely
14:10.34tekMikma, what bugs in pops? It works fo meh
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14:18.49CIA-1703sairen * r14830 10cyCircled/libs/: cyCircled: Added externals
14:19.50mjcSairen: schweet
14:20.54mjcblah
14:20.58mjccladhaire: ping :/
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14:21.39[POW]Arjorwtf happend to all the mods. ever since yesterdays update almost nothing works
14:21.43[POW]Arjorerrors all over
14:22.04mjcuser?
14:22.10[POW]Arjorwhat?
14:22.15[POW]Arjorwhat user?
14:22.32mjcthe user happened?
14:22.34mjc:P
14:22.50[POW]Arjori have no idea what you're talking about
14:23.00mjcid10t error
14:23.45Tekkubit usually helps to tell us what the errors are
14:23.54Tekkubotherwise people get pissy :P
14:24.13mjchttp://325i.org/macpro.jpg ;)
14:24.30mjcTekkub: are you able to change my svn password? or do I have to wait for clad
14:24.50TekkubI can reset it to a new one, I can't change it to something specific tho
14:24.56mjcthat's waht I meant
14:25.18mjcI'd appreciate it. :)
14:25.36Tekkubin a min.... busy...
14:25.54mjcnot a prob, it's not urgent. haha
14:26.28Tekkubpm me username and email
14:27.39cladhairemjc: whats up
14:27.58Tekkubor clad can :)
14:27.59cladhairenvm
14:28.00NeronixEtherEvent: Good name, bad name or kek?
14:28.00cladhaireheh
14:28.02mjchehe
14:28.03cladhairetek can do it
14:28.10Tekkubno you just offered
14:28.12mjchahah
14:28.14mjcdorks
14:28.15Neronixlol
14:28.15TekkubI'm busy
14:28.18Tekkub^^
14:29.03cladhairemjc: then pm me your username and email
14:29.06mjccladhaire: also I think I'll mirror from my home box now, since I have truckloads of cpu :/
14:29.09cladhaireTekkub is a fucktard
14:29.18cladhairemjc: what svn mirror are you?
14:29.23mjcsvn3
14:29.29Tekkubdamnit stop pinging me durring my "private time":P
14:30.05mjccladhaire: 3ish cpu's to spare in htis box ;)
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14:31.34cladhairemjc: the second one.
14:31.40cladhairei just sent
14:31.47mjchum, I didn't get your pm. maybe ident screwed up
14:31.56cladhaireno, email
14:31.59mjcoh
14:31.59mjck
14:32.39mjcthanks, I remembered to keep a copy of it this time
14:35.22Tekkubokey... better...
14:35.26Tekkubmornin :P
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14:38.23mjcsometimes I hate svk
14:38.50cladhaireAnyone available to login to hellfire horde side?
14:39.06Tekkubreg servers?
14:39.11cladhaireno
14:39.18Tekkubthen no :P
14:39.27hasteUS :(
14:39.58mjc150fps w/ 4x AA in ironforge = sexy
14:40.02cladhairelol
14:40.03cladhairenice
14:40.18Sairenhrhr
14:40.20Sairenfc
14:40.21SairenoO
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14:41.15Neronixmjc: I've never felt so envious in my life
14:41.22mjcheh
14:41.27mjcNeronix: bout to get worse
14:41.35mjcNeronix: 20% CPU usage
14:42.29mjcNeronix: mac pro ftw :)
14:42.44NeronixHow much was it?
14:42.57mjc$2673
14:43.34Neronix~2673/(1/1.8)
14:43.39purl4811.4
14:43.44Neronixer
14:43.47Neronix~2673*(1/1.8)
14:43.48purl1485
14:44.02mjcSATA controller is definitely not right in windows though... works fine in linux so what do I care
14:44.05Neronixd'oh
14:44.46SarozI'm using an SATA controller
14:44.47Sarozworks fine
14:44.58SarozSATA disks are shit, but that's another story
14:45.00mjcSaroz: the mac pro's SATA controller
14:45.06Sarozah
14:45.11mjcdriver bugs
14:45.18mjchaha
14:45.19Sarozusing a promise
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14:45.50mjcNeronix: my display'll cost another $2000USD in a month or two
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14:46.37mjcman I want some HD-DVD pron now :D
14:46.38NeronixThis 19" 16:10 beast will do me fine :P
14:46.47mjcNeronix: I'm on a 15" atm :(
14:47.02NeronixIt's the only good part of this setup
14:47.08tekcub<PROTECTED>
14:47.15mjc2x24" at work though :)
14:47.27Neronix1.6ghz p4, 384mb pc-133 SDRAM (Ya rly), geforce 5900 XT
14:47.32tekcubstupib koKReans not escaping their funny language
14:48.05Xuerian384mb? o_0
14:48.18NeronixMy only reassurance is that the new computers at school are even worse
14:48.23mjcNeronix: go up to 512 or 1GB, you'll love yourself for it :P
14:48.54NeronixI was going to steal ram sticks from some old school computers to do that
14:49.06XuerianDo it.
14:49.09Neronixbut my conscience kept poking me in the eye
14:49.41XuerianI'm on a 1.1, but have 614 pc100, and it does ok. With half that, I'd kill something >_>
14:50.20mjcXuerian: have a spare AGP card?
14:50.27mjcmy old box is good otherwise
14:50.33mjcI'd be happy to offload it ;)
14:50.46XuerianYea, I do o.o
14:50.49ag`Neronix: that machine would love the Gainward 7800gs+ AGP (7900GT in sheeps clothing)
14:51.15mjchaha ag` the system bus is too slow
14:51.43XuerianThe card would have a hundred frames rendered before the bus could cart them around XD
14:51.43mjcmemory upgrade would benefit him way more
14:52.01XuerianY'know, to use the exaggeration loosely.
14:52.05ag`mjc: orly? I would do it just because I could
14:52.21ag`to get e-cred for having such a wierd machine
14:53.04mjchahq
14:53.05mjchah
14:53.05NeronixMore memory's a good interim upgrade until I can afford something new
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14:55.00Amadeo:D
14:56.16mjcNeronix: more memory would be a great interim upgrade
14:56.21mjcscrew your conscience :P
14:57.30malreth2 GB of RAM
14:57.45Amadeomjc is still bragging? wtf!
14:57.49malrethi wouldn't recommend any less than that nowadays
14:57.52Amadeo:)
14:58.11tekcub1GB is minimum for WoW players :)
14:58.14mjcmalreth: yeah I only have 1GB in my MP and I have already started swapping :p
14:58.17tekcubmore is obviously better
14:59.08tekcub"Stand in the hall and read these binders.  If you learn anything forget it, knowledge isn't rewarded here"  I learned that early in my life at WalMart
14:59.23mjcfirst thing I need though is one of those lust-i-licious monitors
14:59.55mjc1024x768 makes this machine cry :(
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15:01.17Xuerianmjc: You are getting duals for it, one more in addition to the supposedly large screen I missed you detailing? :P
15:01.47mjcXuerian: I have a 15" at the moment, saving up for the 30 :P
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15:02.40Xuerian30? o.o;. Geez.
15:03.06mjcthis machine can run 8 of them...
15:04.12Xuerian...
15:04.52tekkubIt's interesting to see more and more authors of mods that have been around for some time asking for SVN accts :)
15:04.56Mikmatekkub: press M and see the bug of popsicle :P
15:05.06tekkubm?
15:05.06Mikmawell, press it twice :P
15:05.10Mikmam as worldmap
15:05.11tekkubmm?
15:05.23tekkubin a party I assume?
15:05.31Mikmain and out of party
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15:08.06tekkubI see no error out of party...
15:08.23Mikmareally?
15:08.29Mikmahmm ok try with party then
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15:09.59tekkubsame, works fine
15:10.12tekkubI use oSkin if that might have an effect
15:10.18Mikmashouldn't
15:10.27Mikmayour ui should disappear when you put the map away
15:10.37tekkubdidn't get any errors or odd behaviour that I see
15:10.38Mikmai had that bug and so did someone else
15:10.51tekkubnope, no UI go buhbye
15:11.11Mikmathen i guess i borked it and uploaded the borked version to svn sometime
15:11.25tekkubso look at the commit log :)
15:11.46Mikmadunno how to do that in command prompt so i wait for dreamchat ;D
15:12.38Mikmafunny thing that the game does not boot me out of server while raiding
15:12.40Mikmaonly in PvP
15:12.41Sun\Netherfubar:16 aceoo, acehook2.1 doesn't exist
15:13.03tekkubhttp://www.wowace.com/trac/log/trunk/Popsicle?rev=14821
15:13.58Mikmaso which version are you using then?
15:14.40TainFantastic!  Installed Nero and it screwed up my codecs, WoW won't load.
15:15.20tekkubwhatever the last one WAU downloaded :)
15:15.26tekkubI ran it last night
15:15.38Mikmainteresting :P i have to test it later again.
15:15.45tekkubI would *assume* 147717 as that's my commit
15:15.50Mikmawell anyways i wanted to make it more smarter but i failed horribly
15:16.02Mikmai tried to save the chatposition and dock/undock the chat when joining raid
15:16.16tekkubdocking is... painful
15:16.21Mikmathat means the window don't have to be hidden
15:16.26tekkubstick to the simple toggle visibility :)
15:16.29Mikmayes, it was. that's why i deleted it completely :P
15:16.40Mikmathe visibility is a pain in the ass too :(
15:16.46Mikmavhaarr: c'mon code DreamChat
15:16.48tekkubbut it does work
15:17.16vhaarrMikma: I'm busy with another imba project ^^
15:17.24Mikmavhaarr: aww :( is it BT2 BC?
15:18.09vhaarrthat as well :)
15:18.18TainI'm still running a pretty good number of Ace 1 addons.  And they're ones I don't want to get rid of.
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15:19.06cncfanaticsgo tell their authors Tain ?
15:19.30vhaarrTain: Example?
15:19.45snurreno ace1 addons left here :)
15:19.58vhaarrI got rid of my last one like 2 weeks ago.
15:20.29Mikmaright.
15:20.31TainKeepItCool, MrPlow, KC_Items KC_EnhancedTrades, BulkMail (because of AceGUI)
15:20.37Mikmanow that i have deleted popsicle i can't checkout it again :D
15:20.41tekkubI'm with Tain :)
15:20.46tekkubthey still work fine
15:20.54tekkub...for now at least
15:21.11TainFinderReminder, SuperSelfCast (although there's probably some update feor that somewhere)
15:21.18vhaarrwho's with anyone? I was just asking which ones it was.
15:21.42vhaarrTain: there's a Ace2 branch for MrPlow, at least.
15:23.45CIA-1703tekkub * r14831 10Ace2/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Ace2 - Merging in zhTW locale from xinsonic
15:24.58tekkubif you hadn't noticed, I'm not highly inclined to rework my mods that work fine simply to make them use the newer libs :P
15:25.14ag`hey Sairen, in one of the latest versions you can hide the raid header if you want :)
15:25.19tekkubyes I like moving shit to Ace2, but Ace1 does still work fine
15:25.51Sairenag`: doing that already, the version on the screen had a bug where the option wasn't shown :)
15:26.05TainI would like to avoid getting to a point where I'm only keeping Ace1 around for a couple of addons though.
15:26.57TainOf course that's probably worrying too far ahead.
15:28.58TainAnd the Nero uninstall didn't work at all.  Damnit.
15:29.58Industrialwatching Hajime No Ippo, wah cewl :D
15:30.57mjcTain: heh
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15:37.50mjckergoth: ping
15:42.52FtH|eaglewhich method is responsible for putting me into pvp mode?
15:43.14malreth~wiki Hajime no Ippo
15:44.42mjcmalreth: power ranges ftw
15:44.44mjcrangers
15:45.03NeeblerTMNT > power rangers
15:45.11mjcNeebler: hell yeah
15:45.14malrethHajime no Ippo is a boxing anime
15:45.19mjcmalreth: joke :)
15:45.27Mikmai haven't seen TMNT3 :(
15:46.05malrethBut... since it's a competitive anime that lacks duck-transmogrification, I can't bring myself to watch it.
15:47.09malrethreal men watch Princess Tutu. It's a exploitative combat ballet magical girl anime with duck transmogrification.
15:47.30malreth~wiki Princess Tutu
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15:48.50TainEveryone loves some Urotsukidoji
15:49.24malrethThe OVERFIEND!!
15:49.43mjcyou all are noobs
15:49.45malrethbest holloween costume EVER!
15:49.59malrethdo not dare to call me an anime noob
15:50.10mjcanime is for noobs at life :)
15:50.26TainSo is every other form of entertainment.
15:50.34AmadeoUrosukidowho?
15:50.49Mikmamalreth: animenoob
15:50.56malrethI made waffles for the 3 young asian women who stayed overnight at my apartment this morning... i am also not a noob at life. :D
15:51.09AmadeoI think I'm too old to have jumped on the Japan bandwagon
15:51.14mjcdid you have sex with them, malreth ?
15:51.21malreth...
15:51.24TainI hope you got a good price for them on the slave market.
15:51.30malrethtwo of them are celibate... :(
15:51.38mjcmalreth: you are a noob at life
15:51.39TainThen they are the noobs at life.
15:51.44AmadeoCelibate good times, come on! dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun
15:51.53mjchaha
15:52.10Neronixnoobs[Amadeo] = true
15:52.10mjcmalreth: anyone that's celibate has never had an orgasm
15:52.19malrethbut I can still watch them as they sleep... dur... hur hur...
15:52.34Amadeosick!
15:52.41Amadeomjc: I don't believe that
15:52.43malrethmjc: actually, i'm pretty confident that one of them has never had an orgasm in her life... ever
15:52.57mjcAmadeo: :P
15:52.59TainI heard females can get orgasms.  What a strange world.  
15:53.13Amadeoso how bout them addons
15:53.16Amadeorofl
15:53.20malrethhahah!
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16:05.14mjc~lart mjc
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16:08.39mjcbah
16:08.53mjclong way to go.
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16:12.44tekkubso is there a reverse to dofile() that would let me dump out normal LUA code to a file easily?
16:13.03tekkubbasically do like the savedvar files do
16:13.06hasteio.write ?
16:13.36oxmanany new about dreamchat ? ;)
16:13.43tekkubio.write(sometable) will work?
16:14.39hastethink you have to iterate through it
16:15.12tekkubso I have to recreate the table layout myself? buggernuts
16:16.16hasteI'm very unsure, haven't played much with writing to files :(
16:16.27tekkubdon't think may of us have
16:16.31tekkubit's not a biggie
16:16.50tekkubI already have writing in place, was hoping there was a fast way to dump out pure code was all
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16:19.22Neronixtekkub: You want to save a compiled function or the string of code for it?
16:19.38tekkubI want to dump a table
16:19.53Mikmatekkub: you know how can i track which addon is causing my game to kick me off from server?
16:20.34CIA-1703snago * r14833 10SnagoUF/Core.lua: SnagoUF: Bugfix
16:20.37tekkubno mikma... but what addons you got that would send item links or query item tooltips that you don't know
16:20.43tekkubor spam up chat
16:21.00Mikmatinytip and vchat
16:21.07Mikmanothing that would spam text tho
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16:21.57AmadeoI'm still looking to replace Necronomicon, if anyone has suggestions
16:23.44AmadeoIt's hard to replace :(
16:24.00snurrebtw, why does bigwigs show the wrong spawn at cthun? (claw instead of eye etc)
16:25.06mjcAmadeo: sprocket..
16:26.05CIA-1703tekkub * r14834 10/ (tags/FuBar_LootTyFu/final/ trunk/FuBar_LootTyFu/): FuBar_LootTyFu - Moving to tags
16:26.08AmadeoCan Sprocket stay on screen at all times?
16:26.15AmadeoI thought it was just kinda like a NWN casting thing
16:26.45mjcAmadeo: you could probably make it stay
16:26.55mjcit's pretty flexable
16:27.04ag`haste:
16:27.23ag`ping
16:27.41hasteHello ag`
16:27.52CIA-1703tekkub * r14835 10/ (tags/SpecialEvents/final/ trunk/SpecialEvents/): SpecialEvents - Moving to tags
16:29.22ag`haste: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2610.msg54690#msg54690
16:30.09hasteI've also doen that
16:30.14hasteI'll diff the two copies then :p
16:30.36ag`did you make a brach?
16:30.46CIA-1703eternally777 * r14836 10EPMeter/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
16:30.46CIA-17EPMeter:
16:30.46CIA-17* Now distinguishes between hits and crits.
16:30.46CIA-17* Added a function that will return the average damage or healing of an ability.
16:30.46CIA-17* Added a function that will return the minimum and maximum damage or healing of an ability.
16:30.47CIA-17* Minor changes in the saved variable structure to accommodate the minimum and maximum hits and crits.
16:30.53ag`or did you just fix the old one
16:31.02ag`what's EPmeter
16:31.02mjcdosbox is fun
16:31.13ag`mjc: yes
16:31.15mjceternally777: damage meters?
16:31.16eternally777EPGauge renamed
16:31.18eternally777yeah
16:31.19mjcag`: particularly on osx
16:31.25eternally777eventually
16:31.32ag`mjc: if you have a fast G5 or an intel, yes
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16:31.37ag`but it sucks on my powerbook
16:31.38mjcag`: mac pro :)
16:31.40Kyahxgasp
16:31.53eternally777Right now it just tracks the details of a limited number of abilities.
16:31.54mjcag`: cvs version isn't bad
16:31.54ag`no wonder :)
16:32.03CIA-1703tekkub * r14837 10/tags/StayWithinTheLines/: StayWithinTheLines - Making tag path
16:32.04mjcon my pb
16:32.07hasteag`: no, I stoped committing stuff to the SVN as it gets raped over the night without my permission
16:32.08ag`eternally777: do you use parserlib?
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16:32.14eternally777ag`: yeah.
16:32.23Funkeh`hey all :)
16:32.32mjchaste: who did it
16:32.36ag`haste: there's an easy way to fix that
16:32.42mjchaste: request to have their access remove
16:32.42mjcd
16:32.49Kyahxwhat happened?
16:32.52hasteag`: I don't want to poke clad to lock my add ons
16:32.53tekkubor have your path locked down
16:33.13CIA-1703tekkub * r14838 10/ (tags/StayWithinTheLines/final/ trunk/StayWithinTheLines/): StayWithinTheLines - Moving to tags
16:33.18mjctekkub: better  to fix the dev that broke it
16:33.18tekkubpeople shouldn't be making mod-changing commits without author's permission
16:33.31ag`haste: revert changes made that you don't agree with... I think it's a bad solution just to stop using the SVN, please reconsider :P
16:33.32tekkubthey should be branching for feature changes
16:33.50tekkubyes, revert is a handy thing
16:33.56hasteag`: Then the problem is that I can't follow with all the commits that happen
16:34.15ag`people will learn when their stuff gets reverted all the time
16:34.38CIA-1703eternally777 * r14839 10FuBar_EPMeterFu/:
16:34.38CIA-17FuBar_EPMeterFu:
16:34.38CIA-17* Creating commit directory.
16:34.54tekkubthe other question of course is, what's wrong with oSkin, a lot more frames got added for ya :)
16:35.26hastetekkub: the problem is that it generates more errors, and lots of the code is far from tested
16:36.06tekkubbut you can nail down which code is errorful no? selectivly revert the bad code
16:36.21ag`but anyway let me just repeat that the solution isn't to stop using the SVN... It's the bad commiters that have the problem, not you
16:37.28tekkuboSkin might be a bad example... but yea, commit your shit and revert if people change things you don't like
16:37.52tekkubor if someone makes a ton of changes you can't keep up with, make them take ownership /responsibility of the mod
16:38.02ag`So please, commit your oCB BC branch =)
16:38.06hasteanother thing is that the people who use the SVN (non-devs) actually try stuff which is committed
16:38.24tekkubnon-devs are not a problem
16:38.32tekkubSVN == beta == not our problem :)
16:38.41oxman:p
16:38.43hastethey still complain :p
16:38.47tekkubuse at your own risk :)
16:38.52ag`but so what if they still compain
16:38.57tekkubignore them, it keeps me sane
16:38.57oxmanhit them
16:38.58oxman:p
16:39.01oxmanno no hit
16:39.01oxman:D
16:39.02hasteI did that with oSkin
16:39.04CIA-1703eternally777 * r14840 10FuBar_EPMeterFu/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
16:39.04CIA-17FuBar_EPMeterFu:
16:39.04CIA-17* A FuBar plugin to display spell details that EPMeter has recorded; for now, it's just a tool for me to track data consistency and accuracy, although I have bigger plans for it.
16:39.04CIA-17* Initial commit.
16:39.10ag`people complain even if stuff works
16:39.11hastethe topic pretty much explains itself atm
16:39.25ag`you can never stop people from complain
16:42.28hasteag`: going to merge the two versions first
16:42.35eternally777I'm going to work -.-  take it easy
16:42.41hasteand check if oCD makes buttons un-clickable in combat :D
16:42.42ag`ok, what are the differences? huge? :)
16:42.43CIA-1703eternally777 * r14841 10FuBar_EPMeterFu/Libs/ (. FuBarPlugin-2.0/):
16:42.43CIA-17FuBar_EPMeterFu:
16:42.43CIA-17* Setting up externals.
16:43.03ag`Miles said his was kinda hackish
16:43.09hasteag`: I changed the look of oCB
16:43.17ag`you have a ss?
16:43.18hasteand redid it the same way as blizzard did theirs
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16:43.32ag`Or I guess I can take a look when you commit
16:43.39hasteag`: http://beverpung.net/images/games/wow-bc/addons/ocb/
16:44.03hasteThere's an error somewhere in my code tho', which makes interrupts and fails not show correctly
16:45.02hasteIt's the reason I haven't committed it before
16:45.30mjcOMFG
16:45.34ag`haste: look nice, what background border texture are you using?
16:45.39mjcWeird Al - Canadian Idiot = win
16:45.40hasteag`: Glaze
16:46.10Kyahxhaste: did you quit working on oUF?
16:46.25ag`haste: I was thinking of the background, not the bar :)
16:46.31hasteKyahx: nope
16:46.45Kyahxgood :)
16:46.51hasteag`: ah, that's the default tooltip border
16:47.01hastewith some smart coloring
16:47.05ag`it is?
16:47.09ag`it looks all black
16:47.13hasteyes, that's how it looks if you make it black :p
16:47.47LoppzorWhat makes oCB better than the standard? Cept that it's bigger
16:48.00evl_shows time?
16:48.05steinolooks better?
16:48.06NeronixIt LOOKS better
16:48.08Neronixshows time
16:48.11hastedelay!
16:48.12ag`I've been looking for a way to make a frame with rounded borders, but where the border looked part of the main frame
16:48.16Neronixshows total delay time
16:48.26Neronixgah, mindread-over-IP >.>
16:48.44ag`It's made by haste and not blizzard!
16:48.50mjchum. I actually like lady sovereign. how weird
16:49.34Neronixsteino: Still have that link to the levelling guide?
16:49.40NeronixLost my local copy >.<
16:50.34evl_haste: oUF dead, branched or something?
16:50.52hasteevl_: I haven't started on a oUF version that works on TBC yet
16:51.01cncfanatics318 fr on MT and he gets 30 debuffs on firemaw, w000t
16:51.31That1SwedeAre you sure he's wearing that FR gear? ;P
16:51.52steinoNeronix: sure 2sec
16:52.01steinohttp://www.nordlan.org/~steino/1-60/
16:52.08ag`haste: what do you want in an unit frame that isn't in auf atm? :)
16:52.28evl_haste: well if we're lucky TBC will be out in the year 3000 so why bother? :D
16:52.34ag`if you just want your own that's fine too but I am always looking for improvements and suggestions
16:52.35hasteag`: another look
16:52.52ag`okay
16:52.55hasteand I didn't figure out how to disable certain frames :(
16:52.55Neronix/love steino
16:52.59Mi|esanother look? :P
16:53.10ag`haste: certain which frames?
16:53.12hasteI like the oUF look (shock!)
16:53.16steinohaste's magic touch
16:53.19steino:O
16:53.25hasteparty for example
16:53.37ag`right click -> hide frames
16:53.45ag`meh not right click
16:53.48ag`alt+right
16:53.52ag`or /aguf config
16:54.07mjcag`: I want aceconsole for it :(
16:54.28NeronixHow's this look to you guys? http://ace.pastey.net/1724-42ae
16:55.00ag`aceconsole is doable but it's not high prio because of the dew menu working fine
16:55.01NeronixIt's my 100% drycoded proposed stripped down version of AceEvent-2.0
16:55.17CIA-1703wirerydr * r14842 10FuBar_KeyQ/: FuBar_KeyQ: Fixed broken svn:externals setting
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16:55.39NeronixIf you don't need timing, bucketing, scheduling, fire-once, etc., then you can use that
16:56.06hasteI'm going to finish my StatusBar texture lib
16:56.22ag`haste: I'd use it :p
16:56.38ag`Neronix: do those you listed really make it that much bigger?
16:57.03mjcNeronix: all of those are very useful features :P
16:57.14Neronix~140/963
16:57.15purl0.145379023884
16:57.46Neronix~1/(140/963)
16:57.47purl6.878571428571
16:57.50ag`which one of them are the largest ones?
16:57.56Neronix6.87x bigger
16:58.07CIA-1703krtek * r14843 10Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/ChannelNames.lua modules/PlayerNames.lua):
16:58.07CIA-17Prat :
16:58.07CIA-17<PROTECTED>
16:58.07CIA-17<PROTECTED>
16:58.07CIA-17<PROTECTED>
16:58.14ag`how big is timing+scheduling+fire once?
16:58.46Neronixabout 820 lines
17:00.32NeronixIt's essentially Ace1.3's event code + arg-checking and passing a function as a handler
17:02.03ag`I just find timing and scheduling pretty important
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17:10.37CIA-1703krtek * r14844 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat : I'm a Morron
17:11.06vurlixi just got here to report a nil error with prat, but i guess you just fixed it?
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17:17.50vurlixguess not.. Prat\Prat.lua:37 attempt to index global `self' (a nil value)
17:19.28krkaeasily fixed... just run this: /script self = {}
17:19.47ag`lol..
17:19.48vurlixthat's a workaround, not a fix :P
17:20.00ag`that just kills the addon :P
17:20.01krkawill stop that error message anyway
17:20.02vurlixdo you work for microsoft or something?
17:20.05Xuerianhaha.
17:21.14kergothmjc: pong
17:21.31mjckergoth: trying to get svk to work on my mac pro
17:21.36mjcI rsynced my .svk
17:21.44mjcbombs after sync though
17:22.04AmadeoSo...Prat isn't idChat2, or is it?
17:22.11mjcit is
17:22.15kergothhmm thats odd, it should work fine as long as its location is the same.. and even if it werent, adjusting the depotmap would be enough
17:22.16mjcidchat2 is no more
17:22.20AmadeoI see
17:22.40XuerianAmadeo: idchat still works, and prat -was- idchat. Taken overy by krytek and someone else :P
17:23.02mjchttp://www.artistdirect.com/nad/music/artist/bio/0,,3139851,00.html
17:23.35AmadeoXuerian: I thought it was strange that idChat went from seperate folders to everything-in-one :)
17:24.11XuerianHeh, I'm still using the separate folders version :p
17:24.35XuerianPrat seems nice, but it's gotta save settings before I'm going to use it
17:24.58vurlixprat saves my settings
17:25.05AmadeoThe playernames in Prat is buggy
17:25.28Xuerianvurlix: Fresh install of prat, and like a few others, it isn't working for me, don't know why
17:26.04vurlixi had a problems with a few addons also until i installed the !!!Libs package
17:26.47XuerianI finally got the standalones working properly, and I like it a lot better... Prat is the only one complaining
17:27.01mjcsomeone commit something please? :(
17:27.12mjcvurlix: !!!Libs is bleh.
17:27.21mjcvurlix: if you have problems report them
17:27.40Silvhrm
17:27.41Amadeois krka fixing that self thing? :)
17:28.01Silvanyone have any idea if they'll ever allow opening of spellbook in combat in TBC, or if thats a permanent deal?
17:28.43Silvmakes me sad to have to clutter up my screen with everything i need =/
17:28.48vurlixi did but nobody acknowledged the problems
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17:29.18Mikmagah
17:29.19Mikma2 crashes in a row
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17:30.01MpstarkQuick question: In AceDB. how would I reset a namespace to defaults? I can set it's defaults, but how would I reset it?
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17:30.53Mpstarkmodule.db:ResetDB("profile") doesn't seem to work.
17:31.09Mpstarkwhere module.db is the namespace
17:32.16MpstarkAnyone?
17:32.56nevcairieluse self:ResetDB
17:33.08nevcairielyou cannot reset only one namespace for one module afaik
17:33.21MpstarkWhy not?
17:33.23FISKER_Qbtw krka
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17:33.54vurlixFubar_MoneyFu\MoneyFu.lua:181: AceHook-2.1: Could not find the handler you supplied when hooking "OpenCoinPickupFrame"
17:34.04vhaarrUpdate your AceHook.
17:34.09vurlixlol?
17:34.15FISKER_Qlol!
17:37.18Neronixlol.
17:37.47FISKER_Qlol?
17:38.00FISKER_Qthis is great fun
17:38.38hasteCan someone point me to a place that explains the new library stuff?
17:38.42hasteI can't find it :(
17:39.07FISKER_Qwtf
17:39.11FISKER_Qqueue on our realm :(
17:39.25nevcairielhaste: the wiki pages of each library
17:39.45hastenevcairiel: it doesn't really explain what I should do when I write a lib tho'
17:39.50hasteRegarding the TOC
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17:40.02nevcairielah.
17:40.07nevcairielthats what you mean
17:41.05hastegwah, I'll just prepare it and commit it
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17:41.48vhaarrhaste: hm?
17:42.38hastevhaarr: X-Embeds, X-AceLibrary-XXXX-2.0
17:43.22vhaarrhaste: yeah, what about them?
17:43.39hasteyeh, what are those
17:43.57nevcairielX-Embeds is only for the wiki, iirc
17:44.12Saroz!toc sRaidFrames
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17:45.32vhaarrhaste: X-Embeds is the same as OptionalDeps but it only lists things that the addon actually packages
17:45.48vhaarrhaste: like BigWigs optionaldeps on SCT and stuff, but it doesn't embed SCT
17:46.03vhaarrhaste: X-AceLibrary-XXX is what libraries the addon provides
17:46.22vhaarrhaste: like what you put inside AceLibrary(...)
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17:46.49vhaarrhaste: so X-AceLibrary-SpellStatus-1.0: true means that when that addon is loaded, AceLibrary("SpellStatus-1.0") will be valid
17:47.32mjckergoth: about?
17:47.39hastevhaarr: I'll add the last one then
17:48.03vhaarrhaste: well if your library embeds GratuityLib for standalone execution then you sould add X-Embeds as well
17:48.08vhaarrfor example
17:48.15vhaarr*should
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17:56.15KyahxMikma: hai
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18:09.21CIA-1703flyflame * r14845 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: update zhCN locales (Nefarian, BaronGeddon, Majordomo, Kelthuzad, Onyxia)
18:13.43MikmaKyahx: kiss
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18:18.50CIA-1703aileen * r14846 10FuBar_VolumeFu/ (. VolumeFu.lua):
18:18.50CIA-17FuBar_VolumeFu
18:18.50CIA-17- Added logtemplate property
18:18.50CIA-17- Fixed bug where sound was being reset to a previous value when adjusting via keybindings then opening the menu
18:20.15notMusicAnyone uses SimpleCombatLog?
18:20.41hasteI do, but I can most likely not help you
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18:20.49nevcairieli use it as well, sometimes
18:20.54notMusicAhh
18:21.05notMusicWell, I don't think it's my problem :P It just effs up in AV
18:21.08notMusicOn certain rep gains
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18:21.19notMusicI'm not in it right now, but I'll get the error message later
18:24.25LoppzorUgh. Another problem with GetAceOptionsDataTable. The profile-copy doesn't work.. hehe
18:28.46LoppzorOr maybe it's a problem with AceDB... Hmm
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18:31.38LoppzorActually it's probably both...
18:32.22LoppzorIf you already have the char-profile enabled you can't copy from another char-profile. That gotta be a problem with AceDB, right?
18:35.12CIA-1703otravi * r14847 10SurfaceLib/ (5 files in 3 dirs): .SurfaceLib: Initial import
18:35.42steinooO
18:35.44steinoits out!
18:36.21steinoNow I know why haste was so semi-afk in aq!
18:36.26hastehaha
18:36.37Industrialsurfacelib = ?
18:36.37Dahnshould i be using dev.wowace.com or svn.wowace.com?  my svn creds don't seem to be working on dev and the wiki refers to both
18:36.44nevcairielwhats surfacelib?
18:36.44nevcairiel:o
18:36.51hastesharing of statusbar textures
18:36.55Industrialsvn. for downloading dev. dor submitting
18:36.58Industrialhaste: nice
18:37.00nevcairielah, nice
18:37.00hastebetween add ons, without dep
18:37.10CIA-1703krtek * r14848 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat : bug in prat.lua
18:37.25hasteWe'll probably get some dupes, but that's better then having one large lib, or dep with textures
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18:38.01Mikmalol i love dispelling ghostwolf from shamans
18:38.09mjchaha
18:38.11ag`Mikma: yes.
18:38.13Industrialyou can do that?
18:38.14Mikmathey think they're fast with flag
18:38.15hugohi
18:38.17Mikmabut *poff*
18:38.19Industriallame! :|
18:38.23AmadeoPvP in TBC is going to be crazy without CC
18:38.28hugoanyone know some standalone target of target unitframe addon
18:38.31ag`Ghost wolf is a magic buff and can be removed by priests or other shamans
18:38.32Industrialbah imba, thats lame :(
18:38.39hugosomething like ag unitframes or so but only ToT
18:39.45[FH]Birdemanianyone have screenshots of this new lightweight unitframe i see commited?
18:40.08Amadeowhich?
18:40.32[FH]BirdemaniSnagoUF
18:40.52AmadeoI haven't seen pics of it
18:41.14ag`It's a bad time to make an unit frame unless you're going for BC right from the start now
18:41.23ag`:)
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18:41.54hasteindeed
18:42.16[FH]Birdemaniyea
18:42.25Amadeoisn't it always a bad time to make a unit frame?
18:42.29Amadeohaha
18:42.35[FH]Birdemanibtw, where does ace save all the profile info? is there a default place for all of them?
18:42.43ag`no
18:42.54ag`whereever the addon specifies
18:42.58ag`just like any other addon
18:43.05ag`that's nonace
18:43.32[FH]Birdemanithis is starting to frustrate me how prat isnt saving settings....but then last night I see it listed an alt I never use as having a profile, when I loaded in on that alt it had my settings
18:43.46Lyrihello guys, have a short question concerning the svn rules: how to check out without externals with Tortoise SVN ?
18:44.11Neronixan "omit externals" checkbox is rigth there on the checkout dialog
18:44.48hugoanyone know how to make ag_unitframes to don't hide the original frames ?
18:44.50[FH]Birdemanior use the option under checkout and select the revision option and check omit externals there
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18:45.54ag`hugo: /script aUF.db.profile.BlizFramesVisibility.HidePlayerFrame = false
18:46.00ag`hugo: /script aUF.db.profile.BlizFramesVisibility.HidePartyFrame = false
18:46.05ag`hugo: /script aUF.db.profile.BlizFramesVisibility.HideTargetFrame = false
18:46.21Mikmaumh
18:46.28Mikmawhy would you need the originals with aguf?
18:46.32Lyriwell, ty :=)
18:46.42Mikmajust disable the aguf if you like the defaults
18:48.20Industrialoh god
18:48.23Industrialwhats this feeling
18:48.31Industrialim.. feeling... helpful
18:48.33Industrial*vomit*
18:48.41Industrial(http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2747.new#new)
18:48.42ag`who are you helping?
18:49.11yacoobIndustrial, kill some gnomes. It pases.
18:49.25mjc:(
18:49.57Industrialallllrighty the*STAMP BASH*
18:50.14Industrials/A/O/
18:50.39XuerianWell, to be fair, it WAS a noob actually asking nicely, and to help, and to do it himself....
18:51.06Industrialyeah so hes a cool guy :P
18:51.06cladhaireMikma: No, he's trying to JUSt have the aguf ToT frame
18:51.30Industrial(or girl, highly doubtful..)
18:51.46Xuerian:P
18:52.00Amadeono wonder he's being helpful :)
18:52.32Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;id=822;type=avatar
18:52.34Industriallol :P
18:52.45XuerianGeez indy, -177 karma? Bitten you so many times, you should be able to aim bad carma like a bazooka
18:53.00Mikmacladhaire: that's like, not cool :D
18:53.04Industrialmeh some people like giving me -karma just cause i have -karma
18:53.06cladhaireMikma: hrm?
18:53.10Xuerianlol
18:53.24XuerianHahahaha
18:53.25Mikmacladhaire: yeah :D
18:53.27hasteshrugs
18:53.30Industrialstopped caring a while back
18:53.31hastethe korean broke oCB
18:53.38hastewhy can't non of them actually check before they commit
18:53.53AmadeoMikma: to each their own
18:54.00cladhaireMikma: PerfectRaid works in party now
18:54.00cladhaireheh
18:54.08Mikmacladhaire: perfectparty!
18:54.12LoppzorVim annoys me with it's "Well if you've scrolled here OBVIOUSLY you'll want to edit here to"
18:54.29IndustrialLoppzor: ?
18:54.48LoppzorYou can't have your input-thingy in one place and look at the text in another place
18:55.31Industrialyou cant do that with any console editor
18:55.32Industrial:P
18:55.40cladhaireyes you can =)
18:55.43Industrialoh?
18:55.53Industrialbet its emacs :P
18:55.56cladhaireyeah, i dont remember which one.. but i used to use that feature like whoa,
18:55.58cladhaireprobably in emacs =)
18:56.34XuerianConsole editors are fun when you're... well... using the console >_>
18:56.42IndustrialLoppzor: splits and folds are your friend
18:56.54LoppzorFolds?
18:57.10Industrialselect something and do zf
18:57.19Industrialzo to open, ac to close, zd to delete
18:57.24Industrialzc*
18:57.32Industrial:h folding
18:57.36IndustrialxD
18:57.42LoppzorOoooh. Foolding
18:57.53LoppzorI thought you said.. Uuuh.. Faldring
18:58.10Industrialeh, yeah..
18:58.23Loppzorhehe
18:58.35LoppzorThat's another thing Vim should have.. Syntax-folding :P
18:59.30Industrial:set foldmethod=syntax
18:59.38Industrial*smirk*
19:00.10LoppzorWell... Stop that...
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19:00.48Skyboatanyone else having problems committing to the SVN?
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19:01.39hugoag` > thanks alot man
19:01.51hugoi need do this only onec right and it remembers the settings ?
19:02.07CIA-1703cncfanatics * r14849 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2_View.lua: FlexBar2: Fixed bug with cooldown spinner not showing up
19:03.39Mikmahmm
19:03.46Mikmasairen has made a cyCircled or so :D
19:03.56Mikmawhich is nice idea but needs to have XAD support in
19:03.57CIA-1703skyboat * r14850 10/ (branches/PublicPanic/Skyboat/PublicPanic/ trunk/PublicPanic/): PublicPanic: Moved to trunk
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19:06.18vhaarrhaste: Norwegian translation for "level"?
19:06.24vhaarrhaste: "nivå" doesn't quite fit
19:06.35LoppzorHow come copying for example the profile "char/Foo" doesn't work if the current profile is "char" but works fine if you first change the profile to "default" or "realm" or something?
19:06.55hastevhaarr: Vanskelighetsgrad?
19:07.10vhaarrhaste: about character level
19:07.23hasteokey, that one is harder :p
19:07.27vhaarrye :P
19:07.30vhaarr"Erfaringsnivå"
19:07.35vhaarrexperience = erfaring
19:07.36hugoag` ive dont what you told me and reloag ui i now see original playerframe but target frame is still missing
19:07.50vhaarrhaste: I'll go with "Erfaringsnivå" :P
19:07.58hastesounds lame, guess it works then
19:07.59CIA-1703skyboat * r14851 10PublicPanic/ (!Libs/ PublicPanic.toc core.lua libs/ locale.enUS.lua):
19:07.59CIA-17PublicPanic
19:07.59CIA-17- Added AceLocale-2.2 support
19:08.00CIA-17- Working Arathi Basin timers
19:08.00CIA-17- CandyBars are now more configurable
19:08.00CIA-17- Ability to send time remaining to say/battleground
19:08.02vhaarrhehe
19:08.17hugoah i must prolly use diff framename ;d
19:10.29hastehehe
19:10.37hasteI was going to change ever 1 to a 0, in the selected area
19:10.42hastebut I managed to click replace all :D
19:10.45hastefunny result
19:14.46FISKER_Qwhat's publicpanic+
19:14.48FISKER_Q?
19:15.48CIA-1703otravi * r14852 10oCB/ (Libs/ core.lua frame.lua oCB.toc):
19:15.48CIA-17oCB:
19:15.48CIA-17- Now uses Surface for textures.
19:15.48CIA-17- Border has been changed.
19:15.48CIA-17- Now actually works after the koKR was added.
19:15.50phyberwhat's the format tag for percentage HP in agUF?
19:15.58cladhaire[hpp]
19:15.59cladhaireimo
19:16.04cladhaire[percenthp]
19:16.08cladhaireactually
19:16.38phyberyeah, just figured it out as I finished asking ;)  thanks though :)
19:18.13evl_!notes Surface
19:18.27cncfanatics~notes Surface
19:18.35FISKER_Qhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=ijIiDtc4RKA
19:18.36FISKER_Qniceee
19:18.57evl_Shared handling of StatusBar textures between add ons.
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19:19.56hugoag` you around
19:21.39ag`yes
19:22.22hugothe Target and Player worked
19:22.37hugobut if i try HidePartyFrame aguf stop working
19:22.43Mikmahere you go
19:22.45Mikmahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqQhQSbe6fw
19:22.56hugoError:  Usage: GetPartyMember(1-4)File: Interface\FrameXML\PartyMemberFrame.luaLine: 42
19:23.08Mikmathe co-driver get's a rock throught the car's floor
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19:25.56ckknighthey all
19:26.01XuerianHeya ck.
19:31.31mjctonight we fly away so high... our first full moon sky...
19:33.12vhaarrhey ckk
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19:35.59vhaarrckknight: http://pastebin.ca/215698
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19:36.33CIA-1703duglum * r14854 10PublicPanic/libs/: PublicPanic: - fixed externals URL for Babble-Zone-2.2
19:36.46ckknightlooks good
19:36.48ckknightlemme commit
19:37.07vhaarrah, hm
19:37.09vhaarrI wasn't sure about them
19:37.16CIA-1703otravi * r14855 10oCB/oCB.toc: oCB: TOC fix.
19:37.22ckknightI'll make sure it's good
19:37.34[FH]Birdemaniso you need to know the name of the textures for oCB using SurfaceLib? Any chance to make it a dewdrop as well?
19:37.50ckknighthrm
19:37.52ckknightactually...
19:38.19haste[FH]Birdemani: hm?
19:38.20ckknightno, vhaarr, you're not supposed to be able to reregister.
19:38.41haste[FH]Birdemani: it updates the console table when new textures are added
19:38.54[FH]Birdemaniok, becuase right now its a blank edit box
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19:40.23vhaarrckknight: busy with a bossfight here, give me a few minutes
19:40.30ckknightk
19:40.36CIA-1703otravi * r14856 10oUF/ (. oUF.toc otravi_UnitFrames.lua):
19:40.36CIA-17oUF
19:40.36CIA-17- Now uses Surface for textures.
19:40.36CIA-17- Minor cleanup.
19:40.58sbuhmm
19:42.27ag`haste:
19:42.31hasteag`:
19:42.34ag`How should I save the user selection
19:42.38ag`as a number or name?
19:42.52hastename
19:42.56ag`fine
19:42.58ag`:)
19:43.25CIA-1703otravi * r14857 10oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF: Some textures might also be nice to have.
19:44.01CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14858 10Ace2/Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: .AceLocale-2.2 - bugfixing, added :HasLocale("locale")
19:45.15CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r14859 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files):
19:45.15CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
19:45.15CIA-17<PROTECTED>
19:45.38ckknightag`, I was having bad issues with targettarget last night
19:45.43ckknightit just wouldn't update
19:45.46ag`I fixed it
19:45.49ag`I got your memo
19:45.52ckknightokay
19:45.53ckknightyay.
19:47.07Amadeowtf
19:47.10Amadeois this EQ2 or something? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2403320106937390135
19:47.33ckknightI really want to just let WoW 2.0 release, so I don't have to maintain two separate branches of Ace2 :-P
19:48.16ckknightthat's not WoW, Amadeo
19:48.24Amadeohahaha
19:48.25AmadeoI know!
19:48.31Silvi'm sure this question has been asked for awhile, but
19:48.35Silvwhen will Ace2 be final? :)
19:48.41ckknightnever
19:49.08ckknightsimply enough
19:49.15ckknightit's being actively developed
19:49.33mjc_no code can ever really be final
19:49.39ckknightcurrently we're at version 2.0.14859
19:50.17ckknightmjc, you could've said IE6 was final, I mean, it sat there for like 6 years.
19:50.20ckknighthehe.
19:50.25mjcit's had updates
19:50.30mjcsecurity ones, all of them
19:50.33ckknightyea, yea, just making a joke
19:50.54mjcbesides
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19:51.02mjcwho uses that fucking shite anyways
19:51.25Kaeltenwhat site?
19:51.31mjcIE6
19:51.58ag`ckknight: are you happy with the overall current design or do you have long term plans for something like Ace3?
19:52.11ckknightI'm relatively happy with it
19:52.17ag`Yeah I think so too
19:52.19ckknightAce3 isn't on the agenda currently
19:52.22Kaeltenag`: there may be a Ace3 at some point, but likely just further evolution of ace2
19:52.28ckknightright
19:52.34ckknightit'd probably be a whole new paradigm shift
19:52.37ag`it would have to break a lot to be a new major version
19:52.43ckknightwhich is currently unnecessary, Ace2's working fine.
19:53.05AmadeoI was thinking just skip Ace3 and go to Ace4!
19:53.22ckknight...
19:53.24mjcAceXP
19:53.29mjchttp://66.176.124.244/mjc/AdiTunes/
19:53.37Temmjc, you're fired
19:53.47mjcTem: heh
19:54.08ag`because 5 is better than 4!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Gillette
19:54.19CIA-1703amethyst * r14860 10FuBar_TankPointsFu/FuBar_TankPointsFu.toc:
19:54.19CIA-17FuBar_TankPointsFu:
19:54.19CIA-17- upload with latest librarys
19:54.30Temso.. if I want the collector's edition, but I don't want to wait for Amazon to ship it to me, how do I aquire one?
19:55.15AmadeoI'd only buy the CE if they gave me full Tier 4 in it or something!
19:55.29Azurewrathmhm.. in Germany Amazon ships almost always on release date.. really great shop.. but they don't distribute the enGB expansion in Germany.. :(
19:55.33TemI want the sound track
19:55.58Tem(and I guess the netherwhelp too, but that's just a bonus)
19:55.58AmadeoHow much is it anyway?
19:56.02Temdon't care
19:56.06ag`I won't buy collectors editions as that means I can sit around in IF for a week while waiting for my box to get there
19:56.06AmadeoNetherwhelm is cool, I admit :)
19:56.14Amadeowhelp
19:56.16Amadeowhelm..wtf
19:57.01AmadeoI don't even know where I should get the normal copy, let alone CE
19:57.23ckknightI plan on buying the expansion a week or two after it comes out :-P
19:57.28AmadeoI've never preordered anything
19:57.32ckknightwhen it's in stores
19:57.41Amadeockknight: It'll be in stores the same day, won't it?
19:57.47Amadeojust selling out fast
19:57.52ckknightprobably, but there might be a rush
19:58.07AmadeoWho do most people preorder from in the US?
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19:58.46pastamancerI preordered from gamestop
19:58.52Azurewrathpreordered the expansion since february ;)
19:59.23AmadeoIf you preorder from a website, do they ship it early so you get it the day of, or do they ship it the day of?
20:00.01ag`haste: what name should I give to the default bar texure that's used in aguf
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20:00.08Azurewrathdepends on the shop.. they get released games mostly 1-2 days before the release date
20:00.19hasteag`: no idea, it will fallback on the default blizzard however
20:00.24AmadeoAzurewrath: I see
20:00.29AmadeoSo who's the best shop? :)
20:00.37ag`haste: I mean it's because I called it default
20:00.43ag`I just want the name of the texture
20:00.45ag`:P
20:00.50ag`I don't know what it's called
20:00.53hasteI used Default in oUF and oCB also
20:01.02hastedid you use the same default texture as I did?
20:01.09ag`probably yes
20:01.28hasteSomeone called it Otravi in another add on, so I just stuck with that
20:01.44ag`ok
20:01.51ag`Does the lib detect duplicates?
20:01.52FISKER_Qi'm getting CE weee
20:02.09Lyrihm, ive checked out comps without externals. is there an eas< way to get all the required libs?
20:02.14ag`FISKER_Q: if you activate with a normal edtion you won't get the pet
20:02.28FISKER_Qi know
20:02.31FISKER_Qthat's old news
20:02.43FISKER_Qalthough they're saying they can actually restore pets now
20:02.52hasteag`: it just check for dupe names, and prevents the event from firing and it from saving ontop of the old one
20:03.28ag`yes, but that means you probably have to wait a week before you can play :P
20:03.38FISKER_Qwhy?
20:03.40ag`haste: dupe texture names?
20:03.58cncfanaticsgod damnit, anybody got a fucking way to tell all the nubs in my guild 8/8 nw sucks for fire ?
20:03.59ag`FISKER_Q: mail ordering sucks and you will probably get the package late :D
20:04.01phyberis there a usage thing for SurfaceLib anywhere?
20:04.01hasteag`: how would it be able to check if the texture looks like another?
20:04.07hasteit can only check if the name already exists
20:04.08vhaarrckknight: fair enough, that check is not needed as there is a :HasLocale
20:04.09FISKER_Qnah
20:04.13ag`check file name
20:04.23hastePeople don't always have the same filename tho'
20:04.30FISKER_QThey usually send it 1 or 2 days in advance
20:04.44ag`check for both name and filename
20:04.52ag`that would make my day
20:05.08hasteI can add something for it, but not now
20:05.13Lyrihm, ive checked out comps without externals. is there an easy way to get all the required libs?
20:05.14ag`ok
20:05.19hasteand I hate regexps, good combo :3
20:05.29vhaarrckknight: but I thought I had to reregister the locales if  Iset :EnableDynamicLocales retroactively
20:05.37vhaarrckknight: so that it could build the tables properly
20:05.53ag`it's just that I think many people use the same texture files but gives them different names, haste
20:06.19hasteI use the same name as the filename
20:06.21ckknightyes, vhaarr, except for the base locale and the locale at GetLocale()
20:06.25hastein 99% of the cases that is
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20:06.47vhaarrckknight: so it will fail if that check is not there
20:06.51ag`yeah... Can't be sure everyone does!
20:06.53vhaarrckknight: I have to reregister the locales
20:07.04ckknightuse :HasLocale()...
20:08.05vhaarrckknight: :EnableDynamicLocales doesn't pure anything, so I can't use :HasLocale
20:08.14vhaarrckknight: it doesn't indicate whether I have to re-register them or not.
20:08.18vhaarror ?
20:08.23ckknighthrm...
20:08.27vhaarr*purge
20:08.41ckknightah, I know the issue
20:09.56CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r14861 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Defaults.lua ag_DropdownMenu.lua ag_Variables.lua):
20:09.56CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
20:09.56CIA-17* Forgot to add pairs to a table iteration, oops
20:09.56CIA-17* Renamed default bar texture to Otravi
20:11.15phybertekcub: is there an easy way to mod PerfectTargets so that I can make a function that gives a list of people who arn't targetting the Marked target?
20:11.18ag`that's pretty nice haste, we now pool bar textures
20:11.34mjcheh
20:11.38tekcubugh... no :P
20:11.46mjcag`: backport it
20:11.49tekcublook at how it scans targets and write your own mod
20:11.58tekcub:P
20:12.04hasteand you prevent the "Can you add XXX texture, I use it on all my other mods"
20:12.12ag`mjc: I am lazy, I don't feel like backporting something that's going to be depricated in one month
20:12.24ag`it's even going to be useless to non-BC players
20:12.40phybertekcub: ok.  I thought there might have been a quick way for me to hack it into PTargs.  since it was already doing that stuff
20:12.47phyberI didn't want it included in the main mod ;)
20:12.49snurrewoot, your finally adding a texture library? :P
20:13.05hasteyes :p
20:13.09snurreweee
20:13.13phyberwhere "that stuff" = looking at people in the raid and showing who was targetting what.
20:13.18snurrehaste: btw, did the key work?
20:13.34tekcubit doesn't maintain a list of who is targettnig what, just a list of unique targets and a count
20:13.36hastesnurre: it did, ported oCB, oCD, MrPlow, MSBT so far :p
20:13.41snurresweet
20:13.46ag`snurre: I want a key too :P
20:13.50snurreim all out :(
20:14.54SarozUhh SurfaceLib looks nice
20:15.12Elkanowhat does it do?
20:15.17snurrewhere do i find ocb, ocd and msbt for TBC btw?
20:15.36ag`what can msbt do that ace2 sct can't?
20:15.42ag`:)
20:16.05hasteI ditched SCT before SCT5 was released
20:16.14hasteand I cba to port my triggers and supressions over to SCT5
20:16.32snurrewhat can sct do that msbt can't?
20:16.44ag`I'd just like to know of the differences
20:16.48snurresame :p
20:16.48hastesnurre: oCB is slightly working, I'll fetch you some links as we're done farming chops for Loatheb
20:17.01ag`svn links?
20:18.35snurrewhy dont you just make something like svn.wowace.com/tbc/root/ for tbc addons?
20:18.58hasteag`: I hate branching stuff, but soon
20:19.04Industrialhttp://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_102206_221731703.jpg
20:20.17Industrialim a lo-mem-pimp
20:20.31cncfanaticsa bit too low mem :p
20:21.01AmadeoI think Blizzard's default is like 10mb, so that's pretty damn good
20:21.02Amadeohaha
20:21.17evl_My guils are rebelling against ace :(
20:21.20evl_guild*
20:21.29evl_now we wiped cause detox button stopped working for the druid
20:21.31Mikmagood good
20:21.38cncfanaticslol, thats detox not ac
20:21.38cncfanaticse
20:21.39cncfanaticsace*
20:21.41snurreim in ur guildz, noobing ur addons
20:21.48mjcmine's down to 16
20:21.49evl_:D
20:22.00cncfanaticsand the druidi s probably just saying that cuz he was too lazy to decurse evl_ :p
20:23.11Industrialsnurre: LOL
20:23.23AmadeoWell the Druid should know how to do stuff on his own, so how can he blame an addon? :)
20:23.46snurrethat "im in ur blabla, stealing ur blablabla" stuff is soo the new orly owl
20:23.49snurrebut funnier
20:24.17ckknightI'm in ur base, killing ur dudes
20:24.21snurrespeaking of which, incidentally enough the closest airport to my home is named Orly
20:24.43ArrowmasterMikma: i copied Mikma-MinimapObjectIcons.tga from your site and loaded it up in my own interface and the blips are like twice the size they should be, i think
20:25.03MikmaArrowmaster: k :)
20:25.07Industrialits from the cat pictures
20:25.16snurreyep
20:25.22Arrowmastertheyre not suppost to be twice the normal size are they?
20:25.28snurreIM IN UR AKOUNT, SHARDING UR PURPLZ
20:25.30Mikmanope
20:25.36snurre(quote tseric)
20:26.11Arrowmasterok ill play around with it a bit more and see if i can fix it
20:26.21evl_Is there anywhere I can point my poor guildies for stable releases?
20:26.25MikmaArrowmaster: Minimap:SetBlipTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\Mikma\\Mikma-MinimapObjectIcons") ..?
20:26.28evl_Someone used the term OpenSores here now
20:26.32evl_I lol'ed
20:26.33Arrowmasteryeah
20:27.18Galenciahmmm
20:27.19Galenciawhoever made that trivia mod needs to be shot.
20:27.21Arrowmasterwas using AlternativeBlips, but the color of the quest objective was driving me nuts and i like the screenshots of yours
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20:32.57Industrialhttp://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_102206_223114a1e.jpg
20:32.58IndustrialOWNED BEEYOTCH
20:33.48ag`Industrial: texture overload at your map :D
20:34.20ag`also use a flat texture for the bars and hide buttons, you can memorize key bindings
20:34.40hasteIndustrial: nil out some blizzard functions, will get it even lower!
20:35.03CIA-1703tekkub * r14862 10PaintChipsLib/PaintChips-2.0/PaintChips-2.0.lua: PaintChipsLib - Durr, doesn't use compost. Corpy/paste FTW
20:35.48Industrialag`: tried that but couldnt :(
20:36.00ag`couldn't what?
20:36.12ag`use flat texture? Remember key bindings?
20:36.19ag`remove texture from minimap?
20:36.35Industrialkeybindings
20:36.53ag`I think I can mine
20:37.11ag`yes, I only use them for cooldowns
20:37.30IndustrialI dont play one class hehe
20:37.48ag`I don't have one alt over 40
20:38.02ag`actually I have one I made with some friends but that ended up failing, level 58
20:38.07ag`but that's another human priest so
20:38.18ag`he got the same bindings as my human priestess
20:38.37sergioyou made 2 priests?
20:38.44ag`yes :P
20:38.45sergiowhat the fuck are you smoking
20:38.57ag`that nice grass
20:39.29sergioindustial has like 40 alts I think under 10 by the screenshots he posts
20:39.59Industrialugh in amsterdam in coffeeshops they sell 'gruis'. its all little unsellable drops fom everything else they sell put together :\ (hasjh weed etc)
20:40.04Industrialsergio: correct :P
20:40.11Industrialthis is on dethecus tho
20:40.18IndustrialI have L40 armor atm
20:40.21Industrialalmost 53
20:40.27sergiolol
20:40.40Industrialwaht in 1 week from no equipment and 0s
20:40.48Industrialthats pretty ok imho
20:40.49Industrial:P
20:41.14sergiodid you fight unarmed?
20:41.57Industrialin the beginning yes
20:42.02vhaarrckknight: you said you know how to fix it, what do you mean?
20:43.25Industrialuntil i got a knife drop and could use skills
20:43.36Industrial50 hits unarmed BOOM 200 with a knife lol
20:43.46ag`when is ckk going to write stratego
20:43.53ag`or risk
20:43.57ag`monopoly
20:44.08Industrialstratego, woah, flashback
20:44.10CIA-1703tekkub * r14863 10SpecialEventsEmbed/ (6 files in 6 dirs): SpecialEventsEmbed - Metadata cleanup
20:44.35hasteI've found a new coding spot!
20:44.49ckknightwell, I had been waiting on AceGUI-2.0, but that'll never happen...
20:45.04Mi|esAceGUI-2.0? :P
20:45.06hastehttp://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_101806_182429.png << since it's halloween :D
20:45.06ag`what's the progress on AceGui?
20:45.19ag`is it because it's an impossible project or because the author stopped?
20:45.32ckknightbecause the author stopped
20:45.54ag`stopped all wow or just that addon?
20:45.59ckknightnot sure
20:46.04hasteAsk Tem|AFK
20:46.12hasteI believe he's the one
20:46.22ckknightnote the afk
20:46.22Mikmahaste: angry paladin
20:46.28hasteMikma: It's my new coding spot
20:46.37hasteTinyPad + Stealth there
20:46.38ag`ckknight: do you have any idea of the progress or not?
20:46.47ckknighthe's busy
20:46.52ckknightthat's all I really know
20:46.54ag`ok
20:46.57ckknightand he won't release until he's done
20:47.00Industrialhaste: those shoulders are leet :P
20:47.03ckknightand he won't give a progress report
20:47.04Industrialwhat are they from?
20:47.06ckknightor accept help
20:47.08Mikmahaste: and?
20:47.13Mi|es...
20:47.15Amadeohaste: hahaha
20:47.24hasteMikma: he wants to take the trick and treat thingy
20:47.34Mikmahaha
20:47.36hasteMikma: instead of right-clicking the innkeeper, he attacks me
20:47.41hasteand gets busted by guards
20:47.43Mikmaoh that's rude
20:47.47Mikmavery very rude. good job
20:47.53Mi|eslol
20:47.56hasteit's pure evil :D
20:47.58Amadeohow did he not see you?
20:48.03hasteAmadeo: stealth
20:48.07hasteI unstealth as he gets to close
20:48.08Industrialhaste: hes rank 14 loladin, how is he going to die
20:48.10ckknightag`, what's Surface-1.0?
20:48.24hasteIndustrial: the guards hit for like 500
20:48.29Industrialoh..
20:48.32Industrial:P
20:48.35hasteand there's many of them :p
20:48.36Amadeoyeah, and there's like 900 guards
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20:48.58Mikmahi Mikk
20:49.21hasteckknight: sharing of StatusBar textures between add ons
20:49.25ckknightokay
20:55.21Sarozbut
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20:56.51ag`ckknight: made by haste... Addons register textures, which then gets shared between addons
20:56.53snurresurface-1.0 is the one we cried for when the bantobar texture first was added to aguf and people needed it for all other addons :p
20:57.03ckknightag`, I can't commit to agUF
20:57.09ag`I don't know why
20:57.12ckknightSurfaceLib isn't in your OptionalDeps
20:57.16ag`vharr got the same problem ckknight
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20:57.26ag`I don't know why
20:57.31ag`what could be wrong?
20:58.05Skyboathttp://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7806/snakesonaplanepu6.jpg
20:58.05ag`I did some commits from unix, could it be ownership trouble?
20:58.11SkyboatBlizzard humor ftw
20:58.47vhaarrag`: I was just a nub, I was trying to commit to svn.wowace.com
20:58.54vhaarrmaybe ckknight has the same problem
20:59.06ckknightI got a MKACTIVITY error
20:59.12ag`what does that mean?
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20:59.17vhaarrckknight: you're probably committing to svn.wowace.com
20:59.21ckknightah
20:59.23ckknightyea, that's it
20:59.44Arrowmasterlol i found a mage with 3k hp in ab, crit for 2821(a119) and put him at 1% from 100%
20:59.45MoonWolfwas the lua version in tbc 5.1 or 5.1.1 ?
21:00.10ckknightnot sure.
21:00.18vhaarr5.1.x
21:00.24vhaarr5.1 originally then they upgraded
21:00.39CIA-1703tekkub * r14864 10InBed/ (. InBed.lua):
21:00.39CIA-17.InBed - Because fortune cookies are better... in bed
21:00.39CIA-17- An automatic externals setting script. Requires svn and lua, written on linux.
21:00.39CIA-17- Some libraries are missing of course, feel free to add yours in. Make sure you only include Ace2-based libraries, this won't work for self-contained ones!
21:00.57ckknightInBed?
21:01.02tekcub:)
21:01.03CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14865 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.toc: ag_UnitFrames - added SurfaceLib to OptionalDeps
21:01.15ckknightjust like fortune cookies
21:01.19tekcubyup
21:01.32tekcubsince I'm so bad about setting externals
21:01.53tekcubya just gotta be sure you're using all Ace2 libs or it'll mess up the externals for the non-ace2 bits
21:02.40mjcadsf
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21:03.14CIA-1703ckknight * r14866 10TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTipAnchor.lua): TinyTip - fixed hooking for TBC
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21:04.39CIA-1703ckknight * r14867 10AbacusLib/Lib/AbacusLib.lua: .Abacus-1.0 - deprecated in WoW 2.0
21:05.26tekcuboh hrm... InBed doesn't create OptDep or X-Embed lines, I'll have to add that later
21:05.47hasteIs there a better way to match a string like "Interface\\AddOns\\XXX\\YYY\\something" then:  ^.+\\(.+)$
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21:05.54hastewhere YYY can be quite a lot
21:06.10hasteI want to fetch the texture name at the end
21:07.09ag`I'd love to help out but I know nothing of regexps
21:07.09CIA-1703ckknight * r14868 10BabbleLib/ (7 files in 7 dirs): .BabbleLib-1.2 - deprecating for WoW 2.0
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21:07.11hasteI know ckk is good with Reg exps
21:07.14ckknight_blah
21:07.15ckknight_yea, I am
21:07.17ckknight_what's the problem?
21:07.21CIA-1703tekkub * r14869 10FuBar_RefreshmentsFu/FuBar_RefreshmentsFu.toc: FuBar_RefreshmentsFu - Preparing to test new script... in bed
21:07.24haste2301.57| [           haste] Is there a better way to match a string like "Interface\\AddOns\\XXX\\YYY\\something" then:  ^.+\\(.+)$
21:07.27haste2302.04| [           haste] where YYY can be quite a lot
21:07.36XuerianJust search for anything but \->^, it escapes my mind how to write it out
21:07.59ckknight_hrm
21:08.06ckknight_well, depends on how much you want?
21:08.15Xuerian([\\^]+^)? o.0
21:08.16ckknight_also, are you getting this from debugstack()?
21:08.24hasteI only want the end, ie what's after the last \\
21:08.28ckknight_if so, then you may get ...dOns\\XXX\YYY\something
21:08.29hasteno, I'm not
21:08.29CIA-1703tekkub * r14870 10FuBar_RefreshmentsFu/ (FuBar_RefreshmentsFu.toc Libs/): FuBar_RefreshmentsFu - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed)
21:08.32ckknight_alright...
21:08.49ckknight_use ^.+\\(.+)$
21:08.54ckknight_it's the best I can see
21:08.57hasteIt's being provided by add ons, example: Interface\\AddOns\\oUF\\textures\\smooth
21:09.01ckknight_okay
21:09.05ckknight_so you just want "smooth"
21:09.09hasteyes
21:09.21ckknight_yae
21:09.23ckknight_yea*
21:09.25ckknight_use what you have.
21:09.28hasteyay
21:09.44tekcuboh buggernuts, need to account for mixin calls as well
21:09.51tekcubblast! so close
21:10.18CIA-1703ckknight * r14871 10CrayonLib/Lib/CrayonLib.lua: .Crayon-1.0 - deprecating for WoW 2.0
21:10.19XuerianInBed? o.0
21:10.55Mikmayes i am
21:11.01Mikmawatching mythbusters
21:11.06CIA-1703ckknight * r14872 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: .Dewdrop-1.0 - deprecating for WoW 2.0
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21:11.49ckknight_I'm in bed as well
21:11.53ckknight_deprecating away
21:11.53CIA-1703ckknight * r14873 10GloryLib/Lib/GloryLib.lua: .Glory-1.0 - deprecating for WoW 2.0
21:12.06XuerianFeels good, don't it :P
21:12.15Mikmalike heaven
21:12.41ckknight_hehe
21:12.53CIA-1703ckknight * r14874 10JostleLib/Lib/JostleLib.lua: .Jostle-1.0 - deprecating for WoW 2.0
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21:13.53XuerianIndustrial: Ping
21:13.58vhaarrckknight: http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/14858 the error in :HasLocale is wrong
21:14.03vhaarr<PROTECTED>
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21:14.29ckknight_whoops.
21:14.31ckknight_will fix
21:14.37CIA-1703ckknight * r14875 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: .Tablet-1.0 - deprecating for WoW 2.0
21:15.01Mikmackknight_: code us a dreamchat. vhaarr and nevcairiel are lazy :( and i don't know how.
21:15.10ckknight_dreamchat?
21:15.16vhaarr:(
21:15.29vhaarrI'm not lazy, I'm just busy coding something else :/
21:15.31Xuerianhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2571.0;id=835;image
21:15.54Mikmavhaarr: no your not. excuses
21:15.59Mikmavhaarr: SS or it didn't happen
21:16.03vhaarr:P
21:16.12vhaarrgive me 30min I'll make you a ss :P
21:16.13Mikmadreamchat mockup is teh sex
21:16.37Mikmavhaarr: you got 20+ :P hurry up i need to sleep :(
21:16.51vhaarrdepends on how fast we kill thaddius
21:19.03ag`who made that mockup?
21:19.10ag`it's different from the first one I saw
21:19.17ag`looks more advanced now :)
21:19.45FISKER_Qscreenshot isn't sufficient proof
21:19.48FISKER_Qfraps or it didn't happen
21:20.13Mikmaag`: that's Bant's mockup
21:20.16CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14876 10Ace2/Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: AceLocale-2.2 - fixed error message. Bugfix in :EnableDynamicLocales()
21:20.17Mikmahe made it even more sex
21:21.20ckknightvhaarr, there you go
21:21.30ckknightyour :HasLocale() bug should be fixed now, too
21:21.40KebinusanXuerian, looks hot is there a download for it?
21:21.52XuerianKebinusan: iz mokup
21:21.54Xueriannot dun
21:21.59vhaarrcool, I'll test in a little while
21:22.03Kebinusanah spiffy though, looking forward to it
21:22.07Xuerianme no gots it sehks.
21:22.22Sarozag`, add SurfaceLib to trunk?
21:23.45ag`I can't be arsed to backport
21:24.02Sarozwell TBC isnt 'just around the corner'
21:24.03Sarozso
21:24.07CIA-1703progman * r14877 10HealOrganizer/ (4 files): HealOrganizer: fixed typo
21:24.07ag`trunk is going down the drain in around one month
21:24.19mjchum
21:24.26mjcdoes this work ?
21:24.26mjchttp://66.176.124.244/mjc/AdiTunes/
21:24.39haste<PROTECTED>
21:24.40ag`nope
21:24.41FISKER_QOMG TROJANS
21:24.45[FH]BirdemaniI'm trying to guess on TBC date. We know that there is another major beta push in about 3 weeks...then that needs to be tested. So I would say at least 6 weeks out if not more
21:24.46Sarozwhy ag`?
21:24.47hastebuffering, and it's slow :p
21:24.53mjcag`: no plugin?
21:25.02ag`Safari can’t open the page “http://opteron.325i.org/mjc/AdiTunes/†because it can’t find the server “opteron.325i.orgâ€.
21:25.04mjcit's only 80K/s
21:25.05mjcmax
21:25.08hasteworked here
21:25.10mjcoh
21:25.11hastewith sound
21:25.12mjchum
21:25.13Saroz[FH]Birdemani: And open beta and shit
21:25.15FISKER_Q[FH]Birdemani the new guess from the stores are the 15th december
21:25.48ag`Firefox can't find the server at opteron.325i.org.
21:26.05SarozHrrrm, Surfacelib is gonna cause problems
21:26.17ag`why?
21:26.27Sarozwhat if someone removes an addon that another addon depended on for a texture
21:26.36ag`then it falls back to blizzard texture
21:26.36hasteit fallsback to blizzard then
21:26.39CIA-1703ckknight * r14878 10FuBar_KungFu/KungFu.lua: FuBar_KungFu - added pairs()
21:26.40Sarozyea
21:26.43ckknightBliz is gonna want TBC on the shelves before Christmas
21:27.02XuerianWould be stupid for them to not have it by christmas
21:27.07ckknightright
21:27.12Sarozwell
21:27.18Sarozthey said they would wait
21:27.19FISKER_Qand you can be pretty sure they will
21:27.22Sarozfor testing to be done
21:27.36FISKER_QAtleast we know how they have it with the PTR's and bugfixing before live
21:27.37mjcag`: opteron.325i.org should dns now
21:29.27CIA-1703ckknight * r14879 10FuBar_MoneyFu/MoneyFu.lua: FuBar_MoneyFu - typo, apparently.
21:29.35ckknightalright, no more obvious bugs for me
21:29.52CIA-1703tekkub * r14880 10InBed/InBed.lua: InBed - Now catches mixin libraries as well
21:30.44Sarozhaste, what if someone addons the same texture, with a diff name
21:30.48CIA-1703otravi * r14881 10SurfaceLib/Surface-1.0/Surface-1.0.lua: SurfaceLib: Will also check for dupe filenames.
21:30.50CIA-1703tekkub * r14882 10FuBar_RefreshmentsFu/ (FuBar_RefreshmentsFu.toc Libs/): FuBar_RefreshmentsFu - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed)
21:30.59hasteSaroz: then it checks the filename
21:31.07Sarozok nice
21:31.30Mikmabefore christmas..
21:31.35Mikmait's liek 2 months!
21:31.43Kebinusanhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5530-1-imba.html
21:32.10ag`<PROTECTED>
21:32.27Sarozbut I mean, let's say someone really liked a texture, then they have to keep the mod active for that texture alone
21:32.31Sarozseems kindda, dunno, edgy
21:32.42ag`nah
21:32.51FISKER_Qimba!
21:32.55MikmaKebinusan: and sure is heavy on mem too
21:32.55ag`they can just request another author to pick it up
21:33.18KebinusanMikma yeah I just opened up the zip file was was peaking around, I hadnt tried loading it het
21:33.21Kebinusan*yet
21:33.40MikmaKebinusan: tell us complete test-results :)
21:33.58KebinusanIm kinda lazy
21:34.06Kebinusanthe heigan graphic peaked my interest though
21:35.07FISKER_Qi should almost write "Imba addon"
21:35.11FISKER_Qjust for the fun of it
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21:36.09Dahnanyone know if bugsack works in TBC?
21:36.16FISKER_Qit does
21:36.18Dahnthx
21:36.50ckknightyes
21:36.52ckknightit works
21:36.55FISKER_QI should almost buy a new copy of WoW :(
21:37.02ckknightthat was one of the first addons I fixed ;-)
21:37.10ckknightfor good reason
21:37.18Dahn<PROTECTED>
21:37.30Sarozhaste, in surface:usage(), why not just return the array of textures, and let aceconsole handle the format
21:37.49FISKER_Qi need my posting privileges back :(
21:38.04Saroznm
21:38.25sbuheh
21:38.27SarozI mean, pass the array to Validate
21:38.28sbuthat heigan thing roxx
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21:39.25hasteSaroz: yeh, my mind was lost, I'll fix it asap
21:39.36Sarozcudos
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21:39.45CIA-1703duglum * r14883 10PublicPanic/PublicPanic.toc: PublicPanic: - Fixed path to Glory-2.0.lua in toc.
21:40.02CIA-1703tekkub * r14884 10FuBar_RefreshmentsFu/Core.lua: FuBar_RefreshmentsFu - Adding ref to SEAura for InBed
21:40.11sbuneed heigan graphics in bigwigs ;p
21:40.12vhaarrMikma: LocationFu in norwegian: http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nbnott0.png with the LocaleAuthority addon I'm trying to make.
21:40.19Sarozsigned sbu
21:40.23Sarozmy guild has downs
21:40.31Saroz25 people die on first dance
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21:40.57sbunice ;p
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21:41.30vhaarrMikma: Note how most of the standard AceConsole options are translated as well ^^
21:41.33ckknightcool, vhaarr
21:41.38vhaarr:)
21:42.05sbuToadkiller: you're that autobar guy? ;o
21:42.12Toadkilleryep
21:42.42Kebinusansbu, yeah it looks rather interesting, I wonder how it is in practice
21:43.02CIA-1703ckknight * r14886 10Minimalist/Minimalist.lua: Minimalist - added needed pairs()
21:43.03Toadkillerdoes anyone know how i can get rid of my first bad checkin?  it was lowercase Autobar instead of AutoBar?
21:43.13sbuupdate 10s after change? %-)
21:43.21ag`linerider.org
21:43.25ag`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFFQxW1LW58
21:43.28ckknightalright, Minimalist now works in TBC
21:43.41CIA-1703tekkub * r14887 10InBed/InBed.lua: InBed - Gives more feedback when adding dependancies
21:44.19KebinusanToadkiller, I only see one AutoBar in the SVN trunk
21:44.53Toadkilleryeah me too but theres a bogus zip file created.  I think somoene deleted it yesterday but its back today
21:45.29Toadkillerunder http://www.wowace.com/files/
21:45.32ag`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD9DSa3fZf4
21:45.44Mikmavhaarr: so this is your new megaaddon? boo :/
21:45.59Kebinusanoh yea I see what you mean the zip script thing
21:46.18vhaarrMikma: yeah :)
21:46.29Mikmavhaarr: but that already existed, what did you do?
21:46.57vhaarrMikma: what?
21:46.59Toadkillerlol yeah.  people complain bitterly about the checkin being busted, but i think its this initial bad checkin i did that still lives somewhere
21:47.43Mikmavhaarr: what-is-new-in-that? LocationFu already existed :D
21:47.54vhaarrMikma: it's all in norwegian
21:48.11Mikmavhaarr: that's like, norwegian. code DreamChat
21:48.33vhaarrit's like .. you can translate WoW into finnish with this addon
21:48.36vhaarrDIG IT
21:48.41Mikmahell no
21:48.46vhaarr:D
21:48.47Mikmai hate localized games :P
21:48.56ckknightwhy, Mikma?
21:49.03Mikmai think english should be made a standard language of europe :P
21:49.28Mikmackknight: because i don't wan't my game to say "sotapäällikkö" instead of "warchief" :D
21:49.45vhaarrI love norwegian, and I want it everywhere.
21:49.51vhaarrThere are so many amusing translations.
21:49.57Toadkillerit may7 happen.  A lot of Indian people speak English, and all Chinese kids learn English in school.  Thats 2 billion right there
21:50.19ckknightthat's not true, Toadkiller
21:50.35ckknightI know a lot of Chinese FOBs who don't speak English, or at least don't speak it well
21:51.13Toadkilleryeah their spoken typically sucks but their written is usually suitable for simple communication.  At least in SHanghai it was
21:51.15Mikmajust show them some money
21:51.18Mikmalike in Rush Hour 2
21:51.23Mikma"now you're speaking my language"
21:51.25ag`I don't like localized games either :)
21:51.46ag`give 200-300 years and everybody will be speaking english or chinese
21:51.52Mikma"Sotataidon Maailma" = "World of Warcraft"
21:51.53ToadkillerYeah but what if your manga was not localized...
21:51.54sergiololfirefly
21:51.57Mikmalike, eww :P
21:52.02ag`Toadkiller: subtitles :D
21:52.04vhaarrag`: Guess what I've translated Rogue to: P
21:52.13ckknightknife-guy?
21:52.20vhaarr"røver"
21:52.22Mikmafagstabbah
21:52.29PlorkyeranSubtitled manga looks really stupid
21:52.30ag`:P
21:52.36vhaarrag`: and Guild is "Laug" :P
21:52.40vhaarrhaha that one cracks me up
21:52.41KalamadiGo go scanslation
21:52.42vhaarrLaug ftw
21:52.51ag`what language are you localizing for?
21:52.52KebinusanWait for everyone to speak Esparanto or something
21:52.56vhaarrag`: norwegian
21:52.58Mikmafine, i'm off to sleep since you noobs don't wan't to code DreamChat ;)
21:53.00PlorkyeranYou generally only do it if you have a translator but no one who can edit the translations into the images :P
21:53.06vhaarrag`: .. wasn't that obvious? :P
21:53.09Toadkillerlol Esperanto isnt gonna make the cut
21:53.09ag`'but there isn't a norvigean client vhaarr ?
21:53.13vhaarrag`: no
21:53.22ag`so how can you localize it
21:53.24vhaarrag`: http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nbnott0.png
21:53.36vhaarrag`: LocaleAuthority
21:53.43vhaarrag`: which is an addon I'm making for the job
21:53.48sergioag`: am i crazy or do you not see if a mob is tapped until you hit it yourself
21:53.53ckknightEsperanto, while neat, won't take over the world, too little momentum
21:54.07ag`sergio: I think until health update
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21:54.24sergiohmm
21:54.25sergiok
21:54.44ag`I will probably fix that before BC
21:54.52Toadkillersergio: you are crazy.  although sometime due to the time it takes to update someone may have beaten you to it & you take a shot or two b4 it updates to gray
21:55.01sergionot a big deal just a bit of confusion tap leveling
21:55.14sergio"KILL IT GOD" "but it's not grey yet"
21:55.59sergioi just ended up going by the %
22:00.37Arrowmasterwow this is really weird, my minimap blips for party members are showing up twice the size of the other minimap blips
22:03.11KalamadiAre there any addons out there who show blips for raid members?
22:04.49Toadkillerheck even just different color for hostile & friednly would be nice
22:05.34Amadeohey Toadkiller
22:05.48Toadkillerheya
22:05.51AmadeoCan you make your AutoBar options menu load on demand?
22:06.13kergothplease do, autobar's ram footprint is still huge :\
22:06.17ToadkillerYeah thats on my todo list.  Maybe I should do that today ;-p
22:06.27kergothyay
22:06.30AmadeoWoohoo!
22:06.31ToadkillerOh yeah how do I check that btw?
22:07.38Sarozhaste, gonna add a function that returns all the textures as a table? So I can use in Validate?
22:07.55hasteSaroz: Iterate?
22:08.11hasteIt's already in :p
22:08.35AmadeoToadkiller: I'm not experienced enough to answer that :P
22:09.31Amadeobut it desperately needs it!
22:09.55Sarozhaste, yea, but adding that to Validate in AceConsole will result in names being keys, and values being the path for the texture
22:10.09SarozYou should add a Register(name, desc, file)
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22:11.33Sarozand then a function that returns foo[name] = desc that you can use for AceLocale
22:11.43hasteSaroz: Validate = surface:Iterate() should work fine tho'
22:12.10Sarozyes, but it looks fecked up in a fubar plugin
22:12.15hasteand why would a texture need a description?
22:12.55SarozI got a menuitem now with paths to the textures, instead of names
22:13.04ToadkillerOk laterz im off to make Autobar config load on demand
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22:14.14IndustrialWhy would you need to go away to do so :S
22:14.34sergioapparently irc uses a lot of resources
22:14.57vhaarryeah that confused me as well
22:15.08Amadeosergio: Depends what client you use :P
22:15.17vhaarrwouldn't it be better to stay and get help if you need it
22:15.21Industrialtee hee im really enjoying Hajime No Ippo, but thats because I kickbox myself ^^ its so fun
22:15.33Amadeovhaarr: Maybe he's perfect like I am
22:15.35Amadeo:D
22:15.41vhaarrkk
22:15.46vhaarrhe's not :)
22:15.51Amadeohahah
22:15.54sergioIndustrial send me your latest
22:16.00sergioi'm bored
22:16.01Industriallatest what
22:16.17Industrialcow? pie? the middle one? red?
22:16.20sergiowhatever you've been working on
22:16.30sergioid faggy ui 2 megs of ram
22:16.38Industriallol ;x
22:16.43Industrialhttp://hellsblade.xs4all.nl:88/idInterface.zip
22:16.58Industrial\/o
22:17.09vurlixwhat my UI looks like right now : http://vurlix.googlepages.com/vurlix-ui-2006-10-22.jpg
22:18.00sergiolots of stuff
22:18.14Sarozcrap
22:18.41Industrialno comment.
22:19.02sergiothat's the longest player frame or target frame ever
22:19.02Industrialanime anime anime wheeee
22:19.03Industrialbbl
22:20.09hasteSaroz: write a patch, I'm not 100% following you
22:20.16hasteand I still don't see the need for a description on a texture
22:20.27Sarozignore that party
22:20.28Saroz-y
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22:20.48vhaarrhaste: I'd rather have the menu say "BantoBar" than "bantobar" or whatever the file happens to be named.
22:20.54Sarozexactly
22:21.23Sarozwhen you add surface:Iterate to Validate in AceLocale, you get filepaths as descriptions for each option
22:22.48hasteSaroz: ah, didn't know that :)
22:24.18Sarozso you need a nice function you can pass to Validate which results in pretty data
22:25.08hasteSaroz: give me a name and I'll write it soon :p
22:25.30vurlixhere's a wish: would it be possible to make configuration menus for bar textures and such (appearance options) take effect as you hover the menu items so you can easily preview them, without actually making the change permanent until you click the menu item?
22:25.45CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14888 10Ace2/Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: .AceLibrary - now no longer bubbles errors to (tail call), which would cause the icky <unknown> error.
22:25.49Sarozyou can do that with AceConsole, and set
22:26.09sergioidInterface is truly id's Interface :0
22:26.15Sarozhaste, surface:ValidateFriendlyFunction()
22:26.21Saroz:)
22:26.51CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14889 10Ace2/Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: .AceOO-2.0 - if a mixin has a __deprecated field, it will error when trying to mix in.
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22:28.38hasteSaroz: damn you !
22:28.48ckknighthrm... pcall doesn't properly bubble the error...
22:29.00hasteI'll just call it ACValidate
22:29.05Sarozgood one
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22:29.31Sarozor perhaps, :List
22:30.39ckknightyay, fixed
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22:31.05FISKER_Q"<unknown> error"? :o
22:31.07ckknighthey tekkub
22:31.09ckknightyea.
22:31.15ckknight<unknown> is the worst error ever.
22:31.19hasteSaroz: I'll go with List
22:31.21ckknightcause it's like, wtf.
22:31.27FISKER_Qyeah
22:31.28CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14890 10Ace2/Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - now properly handles tail calls in errors.
22:31.30FISKER_Qlike wtf happened
22:31.33hasteSaroz: I guess [1] = "Texture" works?
22:31.50ckknightalright, now it should be fine and properly handle tail calls
22:31.57Sarozya haste
22:32.18Sarozor "texture" = "texture"
22:32.25hugoguys do you know if there is some way to emulate empty unitframes ? like if i want play with aguf setup to show party/raid frames even if im not in party/raid
22:33.17hasteSaroz: doing 1=texture is easier :p
22:33.28Sarozwhatever floats your boat
22:33.34CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14891 10Ace2/Ace2/AceHook-2.0/AceHook-2.0.lua:
22:33.34CIA-17.AceHook-2.0 - as a bit of a test, let's deprecate AceHook-2.0 in WoW 2.0
22:33.34CIA-17Note: you should upgrade to AceHook-2.1
22:34.30XuerianHard to test a ML mod without a party >_<
22:34.37Greywindlol
22:34.38tekkubhuzzah, ckk's making sure we break all our mods in TBC :P
22:34.54ckknightwell, you have to upgrade the TOC anyway...
22:35.00Greywindforced upgrading 4tw!
22:35.06XuerianAll = All -me
22:35.09ckknightand AceHook-2.0 does not play nice in WoW 2.0
22:35.32tekkubwell okey, if it is misbehaving it's okey I guess
22:35.33Greywindalthough all my addons will have to be upgraded anyway since I just had to pick a damn druid to play as *sigh*
22:35.44Xuerianlol, amen, Greywind :P
22:35.51ckknightmost addons have been upgraded to use it, tekkub
22:35.56ckknightand if they haven't, they should be.
22:35.59tekkubbut if you were to say, force us to update AceLocale when the old ones worked fine... I'd be mildly annoyed :)
22:36.11ckknightdamn.
22:36.13ckknightthat was stage 2
22:36.18Greywind:P
22:36.29tekkubwell let me put it this way
22:36.55tekkubI'm fine with you focing a non-necessary update... if I don't have to do the updating on all my mods :)
22:37.05Greywindoh nice Surface-1.0, thanks haste :)
22:37.14tekkubwe need to train some small children to update libraries
22:37.25ckknightokay
22:37.29ckknightthat would be a good plan
22:37.45ckknightreally, I want to take advantage of WoW 2.0 as a reason to break old things
22:37.50tekkubhonestly, my first priority is to get all my libs Ace2'd
22:37.55tekkubthen InBed everythnig
22:38.03ckknightwhat's InBed?
22:38.06tekkubthen get done with Fu 1.2 >> 2.0
22:38.10Greywindyeah nice script tekkub
22:38.19tekkubjust a lil lua script that sets up my externals for me
22:38.27ckknightah
22:38.38tekkubneed to add in X-Embed setting to it too
22:39.40tekkubnot gonna set optdeps because of the new shit in AceLib :)
22:40.39Arrowmasteryeah i noticed the way Babble-2.2 is currently it might actually break if somebody sets it as an optdep because it doesnt have AceLibrary in it
22:40.55mjcwhy is my squeenix location 0,0
22:41.17Arrowmasteri had to use visor to possiton my squeenix
22:41.30Arrowmasterwant the old one back without moving code
22:41.38tekkubcan run InB.ed on the standalone to get externals into it... ironically
22:42.02hasteSaroz: there you have it :3
22:42.18CIA-1703otravi * r14892 10SurfaceLib/Surface-1.0/Surface-1.0.lua:
22:42.18CIA-17SurfaceLib:
22:42.18CIA-17- Added :List()
22:42.18CIA-17- Note: :Usage() will be removed soon.
22:43.13CIA-1703ckknight * r14893 10Minimalist/ (Minimalist.lua MinimalistGlobals.lua): Minimalist - upgraded to AceHook-2.1
22:43.39ckknightalright, none of the mods I use use AceHook-2.0
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22:45.07ckknightand none of em use AceLocale-2.0 or 2.1
22:45.31vhaarrckknight: AuldLangSyne's hooking confuses me, it hooks SetWhoInfo and something that I have no idea what is. If you want to take a look at it.
22:45.40ckknightokay, lemme see
22:45.42ckknighttrunk?
22:45.44vhaarryes
22:45.57vhaarrI was going to dig into it myself but if you have time then go ahead :)
22:46.25ckknightline?
22:46.30Saroznice, will test
22:47.45AmadeoI thought Blizzard built "redrange" into the default UI (not numbers, but full buttons)
22:47.55ckknightnope, not yet
22:47.58ckknightfor some ungodly reason
22:48.17Amadeowhat do people use for full button redrange? anything ace?
22:48.29Amadeoor just...redrange?
22:49.36[DiE]Celebtry RangeRecolor? =)
22:50.50Sarozhaste
22:50.53Sarozreturn the string man
22:50.56hasteSaroz: see now
22:50.58CIA-1703otravi * r14894 10SurfaceLib/Surface-1.0/Surface-1.0.lua: SurfaceLib: Yeah, returning the table might be smart.
22:51.16Saroz:p
22:51.48hasteI'm one step a head of you :D
22:51.49steinohaste is pure magic
22:51.54steinoi mean it!
22:52.43sergiomeh
22:52.57Sarozexactly Halid
22:52.58Sarozhaste
22:52.59Saroznice niec
22:53.01CIA-1703otravi * r14895 10oCB/core.lua: oCB: Updated to latest SurfaceLib.
22:53.09hastehabeeb it
22:53.11sergioi hate that my guild wants me to use ktheatmeter because they're paranoid about aggro
22:53.27hastesergio: I actually tried KTM last week, didn't help much imo :p
22:53.38sergioit's so innaccurate imo
22:53.46sergiounless i'm ahead by thousands
22:54.02CIA-1703kergoth * r14896 10oSkin/ (AOElements.lua AddonFrames.lua): oSkin: skin the GCInfo frame.
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22:54.06tekkubyou should write a stub that passes random threat data
22:54.07ag`sergio: code a spoofer or something
22:54.09tekkub:)
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22:54.18ag`yeah, that would rock tekkub
22:54.29ag`actually I think it would be a nice project
22:54.31sergioi don't code okay, i just come here to idle and complain about bugs!
22:54.40sergiosheesh
22:54.58sergioi wish I could right something like that though
22:55.01sergioit would be hilarious
22:55.07steinoI am haste's testmonkey, i have to be here :<
22:55.23sergio2nd highest threat + 10xx
22:55.25sergioor something
22:55.33sergioi wonder how the mod works internally
22:55.34tekkub:P
22:55.48hastesergio: It's like a maze
22:55.52tekkubmake haste tell your guild that KMFDMTM is stupid and they should l2p :)
22:56.01sergioor if I could just randomly broadcast sunder, sunder, heroic, shield slam in a pattern over and over
22:56.09sergioi did tell them that haha
22:56.16tekkubhave haste do it
22:56.19sergioI swear to god I literally said KTM is for shitty guilds
22:56.21sergioon vent
22:56.28tekkubhe has like, authority if they know about his addons
22:56.29sergiobut they're my friends :o
22:56.30hastehaha :D
22:56.48tekkubwhich they prolly don't cause they use KMFDM
22:57.21sergioi went from playing in a really hardcore guild and I left them to play with friends in a not so hardcore guild :O
22:57.33sergioso they use all these gay mods
22:57.39sergioand think it helps them
22:57.42TainThere's nothing wrong with using a threat meter.  There's only something wrong with relying on it as your only source of information for your decision making.
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22:58.22TainPeople should use KTM, it can show you a lot.
22:58.23Neronixlol
22:58.42ckknighthey, us breeders keep your population alive
22:58.46tekkubtain, nothing wrong with showing... it's when it's REQUIRED
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22:58.53sergiohmmm
22:58.57tekkubsomeone needs auto-rejoin
22:59.01TainYeah absolutely.  I'm against required anything.
22:59.04hastehah
22:59.08hasteauto-rejoin...
22:59.17ckknightsergio, the sexual preferences of certain mods is not a topic for discussion here.
22:59.35sergiowhat did I say
22:59.40ckknight<sergio> so they use all these gay mods
22:59.42TainYeah people are way too uptight about silly words.
22:59.48sergioare you kidding
22:59.48NeronixFor those who care, Torchwood is so bad, it's almost good
22:59.50tekkubmy mods are so gay, fuck you :P
22:59.57Neronixs/almost//
22:59.58tekkubFAB_U_LOS!
23:00.16JoshBork1so what'd i miss? o.O
23:00.16ckknightCorkFu's a tranny.
23:00.16tekkubtorchwood?
23:00.17TainYet no one kicks tekkub for calling people breeders.  Go figure.
23:00.23sergiosomeone needs to lighten up
23:00.26Neronixtekkub: Dr Who spinoff
23:00.29tekkubas in the anagram for DrWho?
23:00.33Neronixfirst 2 eps aried tonight here
23:00.36tekkub*Doctor Who
23:01.00CIA-1703rabbit * r14897 10SurfaceLib/Surface-1.0/Surface-1.0.lua: SurfaceLib: Bugfix.
23:01.05TainI just watched the one with the girl in the fireplace.
23:01.08TainIt was sad. :(
23:01.23tekkubyou're all like 2/3 of a season behind :)
23:01.30tekkubwait till Rose dies, that one's sad
23:01.32Neronixhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torchwood
23:01.40NeronixDon't spoil it for him! :P
23:01.41TainI'm not big on watching things as they air.
23:01.43Neronixs/P/O/
23:02.00hastevhaarr: you could have told me instead :p
23:02.03NeronixI live in the UK, I'm 24 hours ahead of you tek :P
23:02.06hasteyou also added a newline at the end
23:02.17tekkubwhat? the episode starts with "I'm Rose Tyler and this is the story of how I died" what am I giving away?
23:02.18hasteor no, you removed one :p
23:02.20vhaarrhaste: I like newlines at the end of the file.
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23:02.25CIA-1703saroz * r14898 10sRaidFrames/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
23:02.25CIA-17sRaidFrames:
23:02.25CIA-17- Now using SurfaceLib
23:02.25CIA-17- Renamed default texture to Otravi
23:02.25CIA-17You most likely have to set your bar texture again
23:02.25hasteor wait, added
23:02.27Sarozwut!
23:02.31TainWho's Rose?
23:02.31vhaarrhaste:
23:02.33vhaarr:P
23:02.52Neronixtekkub: Tain didn't get that far yet :P
23:03.21tekkubuhm... Rose comes is in ep 1, how is he not that far?
23:03.24tekkub:P
23:03.57TainIt's Dr. Who.  Why would I stick to a time line
23:04.21tekkub:P
23:04.39tekkubanyway, where was I?
23:04.59NeronixTorchwood
23:05.05tekkubbefore that
23:05.11tekkubBad Wolf
23:05.13BoltRblah, I updated everything and something exploded
23:05.14tekkub^^
23:05.51tekkuboh...
23:05.58tekkubyou mean Torchwood the show!
23:06.01tekkub*downloads*
23:06.10tekkubforgot they were making a spinoff
23:06.10BoltRThat started? Woooo~
23:06.29tekkubme == slowz
23:06.35NeronixYar
23:06.37tekkub... 1 seed ...
23:06.52NeronixIt only aried 3 hours ago
23:07.11tekkubshould have at least 100 seeds by now then :)
23:07.54tekkubhubby will be so happy....
23:08.07tekkub"What the fuck?  Not till next xmas? Fucking brits"
23:08.37BoltRAhah, it's always like that
23:08.47BoltRAtleast it doens't have 6 episodes a season like many shows do
23:09.30tekkubyea... it's like... Japan does 50-week seasons on big anime... US does 22-ep seasons of most good scifi, UK does 10 ep seasons
23:09.43tekkuber... "series" in UK
23:09.47Neronix12 eps
23:09.52hasteJapan is insane tho'
23:09.53tekkubwith years between some series (AbFab)
23:10.05BoltRYeah
23:10.12[FH]Birdemaniunless you are stargate and they do like half seasons
23:10.23tekkubspeaking of AbFab, I need to get me some more French and Saunders, they's funnay
23:10.24BoltRIT Crowd had 6 episodes
23:10.32BoltRMany of the seasons of Red Dwarf had 8
23:10.41tekkubyes but stargate is 2 11-ep half seasons
23:10.51BoltRAnd Red Dwarf had 8 seasons over 15(I think) years
23:10.53tekkubwhich in a way is better, the wait for new eps is half
23:11.09tekkubgood ol Red Dorf
23:11.23tekkubI should name a dorf Red *grin*
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23:11.39ckknightoh wow, Pally taunt
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23:12.06Amadeoyeah
23:12.11AmadeoThey're replacing Warriors in the expansion
23:12.14NeronixWHERE?
23:12.29BoltRPally Mortal Strike too
23:12.33BoltRJust without the debuff
23:12.36NeronixDon't tell me loladins have actually become useful
23:12.39BoltRand Pally death wish
23:12.45BoltRWithout the whole taking mroe damage
23:12.57BoltRIt just gives you forberance
23:13.31AmadeoGuess what Warriors got?
23:13.35AmadeoRage nerf
23:13.37BoltRA new heoric strike!
23:13.37Amadeolol
23:13.44tekkubpallies have to be useful, otherwise horde will still cry that they are unbalanced
23:13.47Amadeoand crappy gear
23:13.57tekkub"Ally scum got shaman and all we got were shitty pallies?"
23:14.05BoltRAmadeo, the latest warrior talent change isn't that bad
23:14.24Amadeocompared to other classes? it's horrible
23:14.37BoltRComapred to warlocks and hunters it's bad
23:14.38Amadeothe only really nice thing they got was Shield Reflect
23:14.51BoltRI am a warrior, as of right now it's not THAT bad
23:14.53Amadeoand the Rage normalization makes all the "buffs" pointless
23:14.58tekkub3.1% ... come on torchwood!
23:15.06BoltRAmadeo, the rage normalization won't change much
23:15.12BoltRIt will give fury warriors less rage
23:15.14AmadeoIt's a huge nerf for 2H
23:15.17BoltRprot warriors slightly more
23:15.17BoltRNo
23:15.19snurreits a huge nerf at 60
23:15.21snurrebut not at 70
23:15.29BoltREndless Rage will end up giving them more overall
23:15.35AmadeoNo, that's the thing
23:15.42AmadeoEndless Rage + Normalization is still less rage than now
23:15.48snurreim already gaining more rage than i can spend when fully buffed on live
23:15.54BoltRNot from what i've heard
23:15.56AmadeoI'm not talking about PvE though
23:15.59snurrewith that same formula you'd be at 100 rage permanently while unbuffed
23:16.01snurrewhich aint right
23:16.11AmadeoYou can't Charge someone and MS/WW now
23:16.26snurresure you can
23:16.30tekkubthey should give druids mail at 70, hunters and shaman plate, and warriors/pallies... uh... what's better than plate?
23:16.37tekkubleave rogues in leather :)
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23:16.50snurreI've pvpd some on beta, at 65 (with exact same gear as on live) i have no probs charging and going straight to BT/WW
23:16.52AmadeoPlus the Warrior Arena BP is 13 strength...lol
23:17.02Amadeosnurre: 2H weapon?
23:17.12snurreboth with 2h and ww (r14 ones)
23:17.16snurredw*
23:17.23AmadeoWell from what people are posting, they say you can't, so I dunno
23:17.24tekkubPowerPuff Girls Z  *shudder*
23:17.30snurrepeople are posting bullshit
23:17.34snurreforums are for whiners
23:17.47AmadeoOne guy that had a DEoI said he can't
23:17.51snurretalk to any of the sane players on beta, and it's not *that* bad
23:18.00AmadeoWell it was on the beta forum, lol
23:18.18snurresame people as on normal forums, just not as many 14yo's
23:18.33vhaarrckknight: did you backport the AL changes to trunk btw?
23:18.34snurrestill a ton of tards
23:18.43ckknightvhaarr, no, not yet
23:18.46vhaarrah
23:18.51vhaarrso that's why nothing works :P
23:18.53ckknightlemme do that
23:19.35tekkubhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4101-1-healing-groups-suck.html
23:19.39tekkubI like the name
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23:21.33CIA-1703ckknight * r14899 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: .AceLocale-2.2 - backporting changes from TBC branch
23:22.14tekkubwow... freakey... I have this single hair on the back of my hand that's like 1/2" long and really black
23:22.38tekkub*had  *grin*
23:22.57mjcyuck
23:23.56ckknightyou know what's nice about TBC? I have yet to die from GC churn
23:24.00ckknighthehe.
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23:24.16ckknighthey Mikk
23:24.19tekkubhehe
23:24.34tekkubMikk! we need the wiki script thrae had... doubt you have a copy?
23:25.22mjcOSX really needs a remote app that understands window objects and shite
23:25.38CIA-1703toadkiller * r14900 10AutoBar/ (10 files):
23:25.38CIA-17AutoBar:
23:25.38CIA-17Make config loadondemand part1
23:27.30tekkubshould I continue to tweak SSEEmbed (2.0) or should I just push to 2.1 or 2.2?
23:28.01ckknightwhich is easier?
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23:28.30tekkubwell I can do what I want in the 2.0 versions... but pushing to 2.2 would let me seperate out into a seperate standalone
23:28.47ckknightdon't do it just for that
23:28.52tekkubokey
23:28.55BoltROne thing I dislike about Ace: ErrorMonster and FuBar_Money ended up having hooking errors, and they knocked out like 13 mods with them
23:29.20tekkubyea I do that a lot Bolt
23:29.23ckknighthooking errors can do that
23:29.30tekkubat least FuBar remember positions after it happens now
23:29.36tekkubI used ta hate ckk over that
23:29.40BoltRYeah
23:29.48vhaarrckknight: you removed the override in :EnableDynamicLocales
23:29.56tekkubme: opps a tiny syntax bug... Fu: duh... where were these plugins at?
23:29.59ckknightvhaarr, I did?
23:30.00ckknightgah.
23:30.05ckknightit shouldn't've
23:30.29vhaarrckknight: both branch and trunk
23:30.29ckknightwtf
23:33.04ckknightmaybe the override was in trunk and never got into branches...
23:33.09vhaarryeah
23:33.48ckknightyep.
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23:34.36tekkubso ckk, I'm assuming that we can directly switch to AceHook-2.1?  the only changes to the API are additions for secure shit right?
23:34.47ckknightin most cases, yes
23:34.52ckknightyou may need to alter your hooks
23:34.57ckknight.orig is gone
23:35.00tekkuboh yea the .orig thing
23:35.10ckknightand sometimes you need to add `true` to your hook arguments
23:35.18ckknightto force an insecure hook on a secure function
23:35.19tekkubokeydoodle
23:35.20ckknightthat's it, though
23:35.39vhaarrckknight: I don't think that's clear from the wiki docs, though.
23:35.58ckknightwhat's clear?
23:36.00vhaarrckknight: I had a hard time figuring out that I should pass true in order to hook a secure function for override
23:36.34vhaarrboolean - allow a hook of a secure function.
23:36.35CIA-1703otravi * r14901 10oCD/ (10 files in 2 dirs): oCD: Now uses Surface for textures.
23:36.48CIA-1703ckknight * r14902 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: .AceLocale-2.2 - added override back in on :EnableDynamicLocales
23:37.00CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14903 10Ace2/Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: .AceLocale-2.2 - added override back in on :EnableDynamicLocales
23:38.28CIA-1703otravi * r14904 10oCD/textures/bantobar.tga: oCD: Removed dupe texture file.
23:38.40vhaarrckknight: gah, the syntax error monster got you
23:38.41hastefour hours of sleep here I come!
23:38.44ckknightvhaarr, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceHook-2.1#:Hook.28.22functionName.22_.5B.2C_.22handlerName.22_or_handler.5D_.5B.2C_override.5D.29_or_.28object.2C_.22methodName.22_.5B.2C_.22handlerName.22_or_handler.5D_.5B.2C_override.5D.29
23:38.46hastegn
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23:38.48ckknightvhaarr, how so?
23:38.51vhaarrckknight:         AceLocale:argcheck(override, 2, "boolean", "nil"
23:38.53vhaarrckknight: missing )
23:39.51CIA-1703ckknight * r14905 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: .AceLocale-2.2 - typo
23:39.54Toadkillersooo, it seems like the new commit hook requires me to have a checkin comment matching the mod.  However if its a new mod how can the comment possibly match since theres no such mod yet?
23:40.01CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14906 10Ace2/Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: .AceLocale-2.2 - typo
23:40.07ckknightToadkiller, start it with .
23:40.22Toadkiller"underscore"?
23:40.32Xuerian"period"
23:40.36hasteckknight: start using the correct way of writing the messages instead of abusing . :på
23:40.38Toadkillerah ok tx
23:40.40hastes/å//
23:40.53ckknighthaste, no, get Tekkub to fix his script so it'll work with Ace2.
23:41.10hasteuse the correct way at least :)
23:41.26ckknightwhat do you mean?
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23:41.44vhaarrckknight: and "argcheck" should be "argCheck", and it should be AceLocale.argCheck, not :argCheck
23:41.52ckknightfucking a
23:41.58hasteyou write: AddOn - Message, while the wiki says you should write: AddOn: Message
23:42.13ckknightnah, wiki says - is okay
23:42.18tekkubno, ckk writes "Lib-2.0 - message"
23:42.22tekkub:P
23:42.39vhaarrckknight: and sec
23:42.45tekkubI'd do it "Ace2 (AceEvent-2.0) - blah" myself
23:42.48vhaarrckknight: 2006/10/23 01:42:06-2569]: AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:140: Bad argument #1 to `error' (table expected, got boolean)
23:43.02ckknightis that on trunk?
23:43.14CIA-1703toadkiller * r14907 10AutoBarConfig/ (8 files):
23:43.14CIA-17.AutoBarConfig
23:43.14CIA-17loadondemand
23:43.21vhaarrckknight: yes
23:43.27ckknightvhaarr, get me a debugstack
23:43.56vhaarrckknight: pm
23:43.58tekkubAmbient Nights [VIP mix CD 2] - Symphony of Ambience in Cm
23:44.00tekkub*grin*
23:44.11Tainhaha Bartender circle buttons is pretty cool.
23:44.22jumbalianyone familiar with autosymbols in bananabar2?
23:45.30vhaarrckknight: ah, it's because argCheck wants self as arg1
23:45.40CIA-1703ckknight * r14908 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: .AceLocale-2.2 - fixed argCheck
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23:47.14AmadeoToadkiller: Thank you :)
23:48.54Toadkillersweet thanks for the help guys
23:49.14vhaarrckknight: tourist doesn't know what zone I'm in when I'm in City of Ironforge/Ironforge :)
23:49.17CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14909 10Ace2/Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: .AceLocale-2.2 - fixed argCheck
23:49.22vhaarrContinent: Unknown.
23:49.25vhaarr^^
23:49.33ckknightvhaarr, hrm.
23:49.34ToadkillerAmadeo: I still need to move the localization which will cut down more memory
23:49.44AmadeoToadkiller: Awesome :)
23:53.43kergothdamn, autobarconfig is 794KiB according to warmup
23:53.46kergothyay lod :)
23:54.15BoltRWow, that's quite the config size
23:54.29tekkubautobar isa discord mod now?
23:54.42Toadkillerit is?
23:54.49tekkuboh wait, you said 0.7 MiB not 7 MiB
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23:56.42Toadkillerthats weird, the config is taking up twice as much memory space as disk space.  I would have expectred it to take up less space
23:57.13Neronix`sleepblame tables
23:57.25Toadkillerah whats the table overhead?
23:57.36ckknighttables are expensive
23:57.56Neeblerespecially if they're oak
23:58.03ToadkillerI started using compost but i saw a comment somewhere compost is obsolete with BC?
23:58.04ckknight32 bytes + 32 * 2^ceil(log2(n))
23:58.17ckknightToadkiller, things change in BC
23:58.30ckknightrecycling tables is not dead
23:58.38ckknightbut typically, it's become more specialized
23:58.42Neronix`sleepIncremental GC ~= excuse to abuse memory
23:58.47ckknightright.
23:58.49Toadkilleryeah cant say i like the lock downs
23:59.03ckknightnot as bad as people think
23:59.06ckknightToadkiller, you in beta?
23:59.16Toadkillerno, wish i was
23:59.24vhaarrckknight: ["Draenei_PL"] = true, seems wrong in Babble-Race-2.2, should be = "Draenei", probably.
23:59.33XuerianIs there a raid# unit for player? >.>
23:59.33ckknightoh
23:59.35ckknightthat's wrong.
23:59.40Toadkillergonna have to do a lot of writing once it goes public
23:59.42ckknightvhaarr, mind changing it?
23:59.46vhaarrckknight: not at all
23:59.49ckknightthanks

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