irclog2html for #wowace on 20061117

`00:00.17`	`Mikma`	`haarm: well care to link me your build?`
`00:00.30`	`haarm`	`Mikma: this is what I use at 64, strictly PvE quest/grind, using the sequence i mentioned above, I have zero downtime: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=bVMhzhZZx0xtMxRhtVo`
`00:01.01`	`Mikma`	`haarm: getting imp inner fire?`
`00:01.19`	`haarm`	`inner focus was probably a mistake, i'll admit, I only use it for devouring plague`
`00:01.35`	`haarm`	`nope, don't need improved inner fire, if I lose health I get it back the next fight`
`00:01.50`	`haarm`	`I'll be taking mental agility`
`00:01.58`	`Tem`	`Zyphr, oh, we have patch notes now?`
`00:02.01`	`haarm`	`less mana on sw: death, shield, sw: p`
`00:02.05`	`Tem`	`must be in today's patch`
`00:02.27`	`Mikma`	`haarm: not bad at all`
`00:02.33`	`*** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)`
`00:02.33`	`Mikma`	`i think i copy that one down too`
`00:02.45`	`*** join/#wowace Gngsk (n=gngsk@c-68-33-204-115.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`00:03.06`	`mjc`	`~seen vhaar`
`00:03.23`	`purl`	`mjc: i haven't seen 'vhaar'`
`00:03.23`	`haarm`	`i went full shadow first and the tier3+ disc comes with every level past 60`
`00:03.32`	`haarm`	`how much +shadow do you have mikma?`
`00:03.35`	`ckknight`	`ChatFrame_OnEvent seems to be hookable now.`
`00:03.44`	`mjc`	`what happened to purl and/or rabbit ???`
`00:03.45`	`mjc`	`:(`
`00:03.45`	`Mikma`	`haarm: like, null :D i dunno haven't checked`
`00:03.50`	`haarm`	`eep ;x`
`00:04.05`	`haarm`	`I use that build with ~700 to shadow spells`
`00:04.16`	`haarm`	`which is probably why I have 0 downtime`
`00:04.21`	`Mikma`	`well i don't have much shadowspell stuff one me :P`
`00:04.24`	`Mikma`	`on*`
`00:04.33`	`ckknight`	`~framexml`
`00:04.36`	`purl`	`get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip`
`00:05.31`	`haarm`	`ckknight, properly hookable? so we can add timestamps, links, etc?`
`00:05.34`	`ckknight`	`yes.`
`00:05.38`	`haarm`	`nice :)`
`00:05.51`	`ckknight`	`I just added "monkey " to the start of my messages, and my macros still work`
`00:05.58`	`ckknight`	`gonna peek into the Framexml to see what happened.`
`00:06.16`	`haarm`	`well I couldn't modify any messages at all, because the securehook made my code run afterwards`
`00:06.47`	`pastamancer`	`ckknight: yay, hopefully I'll be able to start using AceComm again`
`00:07.07`	`ckknight`	`pastamancer, it was working before, but very hackishly.`
`00:07.13`	`ckknight`	`lemme upgrade AceComm to go back to hooking.`
`00:07.32`	`haarm`	`well it saves me a lot of trouble, I was thinking I might have to make chat frame replacements`
`00:07.51`	`pastamancer`	`ckknight: the taint spread in strange and interesting ways`
`00:07.54`	`ckknight`	`yes it did.`
`00:08.00`	`ckknight`	`it certainly did`
`00:08.28`	`pastamancer`	`~seen tekkub`
`00:08.36`	`purl`	`tekkub is currently on #wowace (9h 34m 40s). Has said a total of 13 messages. Is idling for 9h 28m 28s, last said: 'one more feature request and I'm locking tha thread :P'.`
`00:08.36`	`pastamancer`	`>.>`
`00:08.36`	`pastamancer`	`<.<`
`00:10.22`	`mjc`	`dammit`
`00:10.38`	`ckknight`	`hrm, mjc?`
`00:10.56`	`mjc`	`I'm trying to figure out how to solve the problem of finding all one's gear with the highest resistances`
`00:11.54`	`haarm`	`It's not just a case of iterating through all the items and parsing the tooltips ?`
`00:12.28`	`mjc`	`I've only written one inventory related mod and it's not exactly the most functional. just a plugin to closetgnome`
`00:13.04`	`JoshBorke`	`look at a profiler mod?`
`00:13.05`	`*** join/#wowace kebinusan (n=kevin@75-129-100-164.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com)`
`00:13.25`	`haarm`	`mmm, ok after the new patch I'm getting a freeze at the loading screen after selecting my char, any known addons gonna be messing with that?`
`00:13.46`	`kebinusan`	`haarm: disable ebb`
`00:14.06`	`haarm`	`elk buff bars?`
`00:14.13`	`kebinusan`	`yeah`
`00:14.16`	`haarm`	`aight, ty`
`00:14.28`	`haarm`	`horrible mod anyway, doesn't use surfacelib :D`
`00:14.51`	`haarm`	`all gloss bars then that one messing it up`
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`00:16.00`	`kebinusan`	`heh, I just replaced bartexture with bantobar`
`00:16.31`	`haarm`	`ah damnit, they fixed hellscreams warsong`
`00:16.36`	`haarm`	`I had 5 of them when I logged out`
`00:17.21`	`ckknight`	`omg, lol`
`00:18.09`	`ckknight`	`slouken's solution to ChatFrame_OnEvent: use the code that we provided him.`
`00:18.15`	`ckknight`	`funny`
`00:18.24`	`ckknight`	`too many parentheses and semicolons for my tastes, though`
`00:18.59`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: really? :)`
`00:19.01`	`mjc`	`http://www.rpgoutfitter.com/wow-gm/char.cfm?char=Trailrix@US-Mug'thol`
`00:19.02`	`mjc`	`:P`
`00:19.04`	`Mikma`	`rather nice`
`00:19.05`	`ckknight`	`Mikma, yep.`
`00:19.10`	`ckknight`	`works great, though.`
`00:19.33`	`ckknight`	`oh, cool:`
`00:19.44`	`ckknight`	`ChatFrame_OnEvent was split into 3 functions`
`00:19.57`	`pastamancer`	`I wonder if blizzard has a lua version of indent that they feed everything through to get that consistent over-parenthisized and over-semicoloned code`
`00:20.00`	`ckknight`	`ChatFrame_ConfigEventHandler, ChatFrame_SystemEventHandler, and ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler`
`00:20.38`	`ckknight`	`likely, people should be hooking ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler`
`00:20.57`	`ckknight`	`that's my plan, at least`
`00:23.15`	`kebinusan`	`aguf is bitchy after this last beta patch`
`00:23.25`	`kebinusan`	`is anyone on hellfire that can toss me an invite to CastSpell?`
`00:23.27`	`Amadeo`	`Does anyone know of alternative media software for a Creative Zen? For Windows`
`00:26.04`	`kebinusan`	`ag_UnitClass.lua:1159 attempt to compare number with string`
`00:26.58`	`Neronix`	`ckknight: Where'd you get the code?`
`00:27.40`	`Neronix`	`don't see anything recent on wdn and I can't find those new functions in blizzard's kit`
`00:27.53`	`ckknight`	`Neronix, I used blizz's kit.`
`00:29.33`	`Neronix`	`hmm`
`00:30.11`	ag`	`I will look at fixing aguf bugs tomorrow, I have to go to bed now.`
`00:30.12`	ag`	`nn`
`00:30.39`	`haste`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:30.43`	`haste`	`gawrgh`
`00:30.49`	`haste`	`stop making me ignore errors!`
`00:30.54`	`ckknight`	`aim for the liver, haste!`
`00:31.16`	`haste`	`I should make the icon blink red when it fetches some error`
`00:31.18`	`ckknight`	`why is it making you ignore errors?`
`00:31.20`	`*** join/#wowace Rophy (n=Miranda@61-225-15-194.dynamic.hinet.net)`
`00:31.27`	`haste`	`'cause I don't see the error happening`
`00:31.50`	`ckknight`	`it says fatality.`
`00:32.34`	`JoshBorke`	`FATALITY!`
`00:32.38`	`JoshBorke`	`see, like that`
`00:32.51`	`usz`	`ck, btw is your serialization code only hardcoded into AceComm or is it reusable?`
`00:33.01`	`ckknight`	`um... hardcoded but documented.`
`00:33.26`	`ckknight`	`you could rip the code out and reuse it if you want, but it's pretty specific-purpose`
`00:33.59`	`usz`	`well, what i would need it for, is serializing varargs into string for encryption purposes`
`00:34.11`	`Industrial`	`WHERE IS SOLNIANS ORB?!?!`
`00:34.11`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`00:34.15`	`Industrial`	`thats so going to beat`
`00:34.20`	`Industrial`	`WHERE MANKRIK WIFE?!?!`
`00:34.33`	`haste`	`JoshBorke: I sstart WoW with -nosound`
`00:34.34`	`Industrial`	`or at the alliance side`
`00:34.35`	`ckknight`	`Industrial, it's "WERE"`
`00:34.40`	`Industrial`	`OMG CHEAT LV !) MOUNT`
`00:34.43`	`Industrial`	`10*`
`00:34.49`	`ckknight`	`right, Industrial`
`00:34.55`	`Industrial`	`^^`
`00:35.12`	`Industrial`	`i dont even know where mnkriks wife is btw`
`00:35.14`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`00:35.18`	`ckknight`	`usz, hrm... probably quite doable for you.`
`00:35.28`	`ckknight`	`she's to the west of the road, near the bridge`
`00:35.54`	`DrDre`	`soo friend jus got a free copy of Vista from MS... lol http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36175`
`00:36.12`	`JoshBorke`	`for i,select('#',...) do str = str .. select(i,...) end`
`00:36.51`	`usz`	`JB, i mean more like multiple types and nested tables etc`
`00:36.58`	`kebinusan`	`ckknight: I think mana tombs on the instance info is set wrong, its set as 70-72 its really closer to 63-65 ish`
`00:37.05`	`JoshBorke`	`ew`
`00:37.07`	`kebinusan`	`for cartographer that is whatever it uses`
`00:37.46`	`JoshBorke`	`for i,select('#',...) do str = str .. makeAString(select(i,...)) end ;-)`
`00:38.16`	`usz`	`heh`
`00:38.28`	`Industrial`	`pastamancer: http://www.imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_111706_013719113.jpg`
`00:39.24`	`pastamancer`	`Industrial: hmm?`
`00:39.42`	`Industrial`	`see it aint working the lines should stretch to the screen width`
`00:39.56`	`Industrial`	`the frame is SetAllPoints(UIParent)`
`00:40.05`	`ckknight`	`kebinusan, that's a Tourist-2.0 issue.`
`00:40.10`	`Industrial`	`and im looping and creating lines until i reach Frame:GetWidth()`
`00:40.22`	`ckknight`	`kebinusan, feel free to upgrade that if you think it's wrong. (not hard to update)`
`00:40.47`	`usz`	`JoshBorke, as you use TEALib, didnt you notice that it can only encrypt strings? ^^`
`00:40.54`	`pastamancer`	`Industrial: are those lines anchored to the frame or uiparent?`
`00:41.00`	`Industrial`	`to`
`00:41.16`	`Industrial`	`Line:SetHeight(Grid:GetHeight()) Line:SetPoint('BOTTOMLEFT', Grid.Lines[i-1], 'BOTTOMLEFT', Stepsize, 0)`
`00:41.33`	`*** join/#wowace Talyn600m (n=talyn@c-66-177-146-216.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)`
`00:41.44`	`Industrial`	`oh wait`
`00:42.01`	`JoshBorke`	`usz: haven't really started using it. and that's all it needs to encrypt :)`
`00:42.09`	`Industrial`	`Line:SetPoint('BOTTOMLEFT', Grid, 'BOTTOMLEFT', Width, 0)`
`00:42.11`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`00:42.29`	`usz`	`good for you then, still for it to be fully funcational lib, it should be able to encrypt anything`
`00:42.32`	`Industrial`	`where Width is the current width its at + the offset`
`00:42.42`	`JoshBorke`	`i agree :)`
`00:43.08`	`*** join/#wowace FelixTeCat (i=FelixTeC@Alton-AS1-32.ortrackm.missouri.org)`
`00:43.41`	`Industrial`	`pastamancer: pm`
`00:43.47`	`pastamancer`	`usz: shouldn't seriailizing non-strings be separate?`
`00:45.16`	`usz`	`pasta, well yes that could be separate aswell, i can see arguments for and against merging it with encryption lib`
`00:45.41`	`JoshBorke`	`how exactly does one serialize a function?`
`00:45.49`	`ckknight`	`you can't in WoW`
`00:46.00`	`ckknight`	`functions and userdata can't be serialized`
`00:46.48`	`usz`	`still bools, numbers, strings and all the table hierarchy can be serialized`
`00:46.51`	`*** join/#wowace AbsolutFelix (i=FelixTeC@Alton-AS1-32.ortrackm.missouri.org)`
`00:47.06`	`ckknight`	`yep`
`00:47.25`	`usz`	`unless we got loops, do you check for loops btw?`
`00:47.38`	`usz`	`ah you do`
`00:47.41`	`usz`	`just found it`
`00:49.25`	`Neronix`	`no wonder I can't see the new chat frame stuff`
`00:49.45`	`Neronix`	`my BC client's not been patched since just before they raised the cap`
`00:50.02`	`ckknight`	`usz, yea, recursion just errors.`
`00:50.20`	`ckknight`	`well, feels like lunchtime.`
`00:52.55`	`*** join/#wowace Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk)`
`00:54.51`	`haste`	`CIA-17: stop ignoreing me :(`
`00:55.03`	Funkeh`	`FuBar_PerformanceFu has all its locales using AL 2.2 appart from the deDE one which uses 2.0 im using the enGB client, and it seems to be working despite the error message, can i just change the file to 2.2?`
`00:55.04`	`haste`	`s/re/r/`
`00:56.51`	`*** join/#wowace Adrine (n=Chris@ip68-2-219-112.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`00:57.25`	`Antiarc`	`So, uh, anyone have a beta patch mirror? The downloader is inspiringly slow.`
`00:58.39`	`nymbia`	`Antiarc: enUS?`
`00:58.43`	`Antiarc`	`Ayup`
`00:58.50`	`nymbia`	`http://midnightraiders.nrgservers.net/WoW-2.0.2.6108-to-2.0.2.6144-enUS-patch.exe`
`00:58.57`	`Antiarc`	`<3`
`00:58.58`	`Antiarc`	`Thank you!`
`00:59.02`	`nymbia`	`sure`
`00:59.14`	`Antiarc`	`Oh, hey, look, it's already downloaded 3x as much as Blizz's`
`00:59.18`	`nymbia`	`rofl`
`00:59.18`	`Kirkburn`	`Oooh, big patch`
`00:59.23`	`Antiarc`	`5x.`
`00:59.26`	`Antiarc`	`6x.`
`00:59.30`	`Antiarc`	`7x`
`00:59.35`	`Antiarc`	`This is so much nicer.`
`00:59.39`	Funkeh`	`ok we get the idea :P`
`00:59.43`	`Antiarc`	`Heheh.`
`00:59.45`	`Kirkburn`	`lol, I'm using the Blizz downloader and getting massive speeds :P`
`00:59.52`	`Tem`	`I got 900kb/s from the blizzard downloader`
`00:59.55`	`Antiarc`	`That's the odd thing about torrents`
`01:00.03`	`Antiarc`	`Sometimes you get a good peer set, other times you get trash.`
`01:00.07`	`Tem`	`downloaded and patched in less than 5 minutes`
`01:00.12`	`Antiarc`	`.....`
`01:00.16`	`nymbia`	`cheats.`
`01:00.17`	Funkeh`	`i get 1kbps if im lucky, cba opening router ports`
`01:00.17`	`Antiarc`	`The direct download just finihsed...`
`01:00.21`	`Kirkburn`	`I spent a while setting up torrents to work on the router :)`
`01:00.28`	`Antiarc`	`And my download rate in the Blizz client jumped to 800 kb/s`
`01:00.36`	`Antiarc`	`Irony.`
`01:01.04`	`Kirkburn`	`Nethaera says "this push is comprised of bug fixes rather than additions." .... what, 53MB of fixes?!`
`01:01.12`	`Antiarc`	`That's what I said!`
`01:01.16`	`nymbia`	`hahaha`
`01:01.21`	`Antiarc`	`That's a whole heck of a lot of terrain fixes.`
`01:01.25`	`Antiarc`	`Assuming that's what it is.`
`01:02.10`	`Kirkburn`	`I hope it all cool funky new stuff :P`
`01:02.13`	`Kirkburn`	`*it's`
`01:02.17`	`haste`	`another add on with TBC support :D`
`01:02.36`	`Kirkburn`	`(I can dream)`
`01:02.43`	`Kirkburn`	`haste?`
`01:02.45`	`haste`	`three down, four to go!`
`01:02.52`	`haste`	`Kirkburn: made oTravi work under TBC`
`01:02.57`	`haste`	`going to add poisons and such later tho'`
`01:03.10`	`Kirkburn`	`Oh yeah, I see it at the bottom of the last updated /files list :)`
`01:03.11`	`haste`	`and make it check your level before attempting to add a poison`
`01:03.17`	`DrDre`	`we need a listo f addons with TBC support ><`
`01:03.23`	`haste`	`DrDre: on the wiki`
`01:03.28`	`DrDre`	`where?`
`01:03.31`	`Kirkburn`	`It's hardly complete :P`
`01:03.34`	`haste`	`search?`
`01:03.41`	`haste`	`yeh, people like me don't use the wiki`
`01:03.49`	`Kirkburn`	`In the channel title, too ;)`
`01:03.54`	`nymbia`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TBC_Converted_Addons`
`01:03.56`	`Kirkburn`	`www.wowace.com/wiki/TBC_Converted_Addons`
`01:03.59`	`Kirkburn`	`Darn youuuu!!!`
`01:04.04`	`nymbia`	`:)`
`01:04.06`	Funkeh`	`so is the TBC branch being moved to trunk for 2.0.1 i presume?`
`01:04.11`	`ckknight`	`back`
`01:04.26`	`DrDre`	`thanks :o`
`01:04.44`	`DrDre`	`thatll help rebuild my UI`
`01:04.47`	`nymbia`	`i've just been making stuff dual-compatible. cept the one that requires TBC.`
`01:04.54`	`ckknight`	Funkeh`, as soon as WoW 2.0 is released to the public, the TBC branch will be moved to trunk.
`01:04.59`	`Kirkburn`	`Yay "Sha'tar guards now give directions "`
`01:05.03`	`haarm`	`UnitBuff / UnitDebuff changed?`
`01:05.23`	`Kirkburn`	`"A number of quest rewards from introductory quests in Hellfire peninsula have recieved proper names (changed from placeholder names, such as Intro Melee Mail) and have had their graphics changed"`
`01:05.25`	`Antiarc`	`Ok, this is a bit odd. I'm stuck at the initial loading screen, and both my mem usage and VM size are over 1GB and climbing.`
`01:05.29`	Funkeh`	`ck im talking about the pre TBC content patch called 2.0.1 there is no 2.0`
`01:05.39`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`01:05.40`	`Kirkburn`	`Semantics, semantics`
`01:05.40`	`ckknight`	`right.`
`01:05.54`	`ckknight`	`you say branch and trunk.`
`01:06.49`	`Kirkburn`	`Crud! They changed my staff graphic!`
`01:06.59`	Funkeh`	`sorry to confuse you, i meant we are getting the TBC addons on the trunk for the 2.0.1 content patch, i hope?`
`01:07.24`	Funkeh`	`as in before TBC (2.0.2) is release`
`01:07.27`	`Kirkburn`	`I think it's a bad idea to refer to them as TBC addons in the first place`
`01:07.33`	`ckknight`	`as soon as the content patch is released, yes.`
`01:07.39`	Funkeh`	`cool :)`
`01:07.41`	`Kirkburn`	`They're 2.0 addons, surely`
`01:08.09`	Funkeh`	`yes they work on 2.0.1 PTR kirkburn`
`01:08.26`	`Kirkburn`	`Such is my point, it's a misnomer :)`
`01:08.32`	Funkeh`	`^^`
`01:08.51`	Funkeh`	`just blizz couldnt have named it 1.13 and TBC 2.0 and made our lives easier, but no... :P`
`01:08.52`	`mjc`	`kergoth: ping0r`
`01:08.53`	`Kirkburn`	`It'll all sort itself once the patch is released, anyway :P`
`01:09.06`	`kergoth`	`mjc: pong`
`01:09.11`	`mjc`	`kergoth: http://www.sanctuary-guild.org/index.php/topic,1488.0.html`
`01:09.38`	`usz`	`nub question, does PTR have Lua 5.1 or still good old one?`
`01:09.54`	`nymbia`	`5.1`
`01:10.14`	`mjc`	`PTR == TBC - outlands content`
`01:10.36`	`ckknight`	`mjc, sorta. It's a patch behind.`
`01:10.36`	`usz`	`ok cheers`
`01:10.51`	`mjc`	`ckknight: it'll be the same theoretically. they have different patch days.`
`01:10.52`	`mjc`	`:P`
`01:11.03`	`eternally777`	`PTR is locked at 60 though right?`
`01:11.04`	`ckknight`	`mjc, not what Slouken's been saying.`
`01:11.08`	`DrDre`	`yes`
`01:11.09`	`ckknight`	`yes, eternally777`
`01:11.10`	`mjc`	`no?`
`01:11.13`	`DrDre`	`talents are behind tho`
`01:11.21`	`DrDre`	`rogues have CLOS for 41pt`
`01:11.23`	`Antiarc`	`Interesting. Client was freezing with massive memory usage, FrameXML.log said it died in the BlizzardAuctionUI addon. Nuked my addons dir and it loaded fine.`
`01:11.47`	`mjc`	`EBB possibly`
`01:11.51`	Funkeh`	`PTR only accepts 20000 + like beta`
`01:12.25`	`eternally777`	`Antiarc: yeah, same thing here`
`01:13.54`	`Kirkburn`	`Oooh, nice new BE anims`
`01:14.12`	`Kirkburn`	`Nooooooooooo .... "Glowcaps can no longer be picked up from any distance "`
`01:14.37`	`Kirkburn`	`"Keys are now required to unlock Heroic difficulty for dungeons. HFC key requires revered with Thrallmar and Tempest Keep key requires revered with Sha'tar to buy"`
`01:15.01`	`nymbia`	`Kirkburn: where are those at?`
`01:15.21`	`Kirkburn`	`Player made notes: http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1255327&sid=1&pageNo=2`
`01:15.41`	`nymbia`	`aha, thanks`
`01:16.24`	`haarm`	`looks like UnitBuff / UnitDebuff changed and are no longer backward compatible`
`01:16.55`	`Antiarc`	`Jawsome. I've got Sanity working with the secure templates now.`
`01:18.19`	`Industrial`	`Cairenn: can Eliasis on Hellfire/Horde be romoted to Member please? Ive been asked ginvites`
`01:18.19`	`Cairenn`	`no officers on?`
`01:18.19`	`Cairenn`	`logging in`
`01:18.22`	`mjc`	`hey Cairenn :P`
`01:18.27`	`Industrial`	`thxsies`
`01:18.27`	`Cairenn`	`hi`
`01:18.52`	`Cairenn`	`oh crud, been out all day ... have to get the update first`
`01:19.03`	`Cairenn`	`be a few before I can log in`
`01:19.03`	`mjc`	`Cairenn: what's the status of the TBC keys? I want to test some communication stuff, be nice to have a key for my second account to do so :P`
`01:19.27`	`ckknight`	`mjc, what stuff you need to test?`
`01:19.43`	`Cairenn`	`mjc: everything up to the #s I quoted yesterday have been submitted to Blizz, when they send the keys ... /shrug`
`01:19.57`	`Cairenn`	`sec`
`01:19.59`	`mjc`	`Cairenn: I mean, I have one, am I able to get a second? :P`
`01:20.08`	`Tain`	`Won't most of the important changes be on PTR/`
`01:20.10`	`Cairenn`	`ah, nope, sorry, 1 per`
`01:20.18`	`Cairenn`	`yes, they are, the UI changes are on PTR`
`01:20.25`	`mjc`	`ckknight: working on a game framework based on acecomm :)`
`01:20.31`	`mjc`	`ckknight: *minigame`
`01:20.43`	`Tain`	`well then, no need being all greedy trying to get a second key when so many would still like a firstone.`
`01:20.48`	`Kirkburn`	`Eek, ag_UnitFrames seems to be broken`
`01:20.52`	`ckknight`	`cool, mjc`
`01:21.34`	`ckknight`	`CIA's not here.`
`01:21.36`	`ckknight`	`:-(`
`01:21.45`	`nymbia`	`he ran off`
`01:21.58`	`Cairenn`	`mjc: sorry, wish I could tell you otherwise, but it's amazing that Blizz is letting me hand out as many keys as they are in the first place`
`01:22.09`	`mjc`	`it's ok :)`
`01:22.59`	`Cairenn`	`well, it bugs me when I can't do more for the community (the ones that actually deserve it, as opposed to some I've had to deal with of late), but there are limits on even what I can manage to pull off`
`01:23.46`	`ckknight`	`well, we appreciate what you've done thus far.`
`01:24.19`	`nymbia`	`yeah. thanks for all your effort and putting up with all you have, cairenn :)`
`01:24.48`	`Cairenn`	`it's worth it, just for sake of those that truly do deserve the support`
`01:25.07`	`Cairenn`	`I sit in a number of channels full of those folks`
`01:25.46`	`mjc`	`Cairenn: I agree, you kick ass.`
`01:28.01`	`Neronix`	`Cairenn is made of 50% win, 50% legend and 50% <3`
`01:28.16`	`mjc`	`haha`
`01:28.19`	`ckknight`	`half man, half bear, and half pig.`
`01:28.26`	`nymbia`	`rofl`
`01:28.30`	`Neronix`	`(Yes, that adds up to 150%)`
`01:28.41`	`Neronix`	`(Yes, I stole that from the legendary thread image macro)`
`01:28.42`	`ckknight`	`150% of awesome.`
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`01:29.38`	`Cairenn`	`okay guys, you're making me blush, quit it ... I'm just supporting the community I love, doing my part, same as all the rest of you`
`01:29.40`	Funkeh`	`i upgraded vchat from AL 2.1 to 2.2 by changing GetInstance("vChat", true) => new("vChat") and ("AceLocale-2.1") => ("AceLocale-2.2"):new("vChat") and RegisterTranslation("vChat", "enUS", function() return { => RegisterTranslations("enUS", function() return { anything else i should be doing?`
`01:30.05`	`ckknight`	`doesn't look like it.`
`01:30.23`	Funkeh`	`cool :D`
`01:31.16`	`Xuerian`	`wait, why did I miss Cairenn blushing? <.<`
`01:31.26`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian, because she's 150% awesome`
`01:31.31`	`Xuerian`	`=D`
`01:31.32`	`haste`	`god I'm starting to love reg exps`
`01:31.34`	`Xuerian`	`What'd she do wrong this time?`
`01:31.37`	`Xuerian`	`s/wrong/right/`
`01:31.42`	`ckknight`	`gave us keys.`
`01:31.45`	`Xuerian`	`s/right/perfect/`
`01:31.46`	`ckknight`	`and such`
`01:32.06`	`Xuerian`	`We <3 Cairenn.`
`01:32.16`	`ckknight`	`Cairenn <3`
`01:32.20`	`ckknight`	`3 > Cairenn.`
`01:32.30`	`Xuerian`	`o.0`
`01:32.37`	`ckknight`	`0 > Cairenn - 3`
`01:32.44`	`ckknight`	`mmm... not sure where I'm going with this.`
`01:32.49`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`01:32.53`	`Kirkburn`	`It appears one of the patch changes partly broke ag_UnitFrames :(`
`01:32.59`	`ckknight`	`Kirkburn, hrm.`
`01:33.24`	`Kirkburn`	`ag_UnitClass.lua:1159:attempt to compare number with string`
`01:33.34`	Funkeh`	`is this the patch with the 'fixes'? :P`
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`01:33.49`	`Kirkburn`	`Occurs when I select myself`
`01:33.51`	`Sole`	`hai`
`01:33.58`	Funkeh`	`hey Sole`
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`01:35.08`	`ckknight`	`CIA's back`
`01:35.26`	Funkeh`	`wee!`
`01:35.35`	`Kirkburn`	`omg CIA`
`01:35.43`	`Kirkburn`	`Hide the stash!`
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`01:36.35`	`Xuerian`	`CIA-17 always reminds me of Navi, the fey.`
`01:37.00`	`Xuerian`	`Always making a high tinkly sound in my ear >.<`
`01:37.49`	`Tain`	`Wow tinkly in the ear, that's a special kind of kinky.`
`01:38.33`	`Sole`	`kinky ooh`
`01:38.38`	`haste`	`CIA-17: do you work now?`
`01:38.39`	`CIA-17`	`03otravi 07TBC * r17216 10oTravi/oTravi/moredots.lua:`
`01:38.39`	`CIA-17`	`oTravi:`
`01:38.39`	`CIA-17`	`- Now checks the level of the poisons before they are added to the menu.`
`01:38.39`	`CIA-17`	`- Added support for the new TBC poisons.`
`01:38.44`	`haste`	`oh, it does`
`01:38.50`	Funkeh`	`welcome back to the land of the living`
`01:38.52`	`haste`	`so... does anyone have a L62+ rogue?`
`01:38.56`	`haste`	`and are able to test that`
`01:39.27`	`Sole`	`whys it just called oTravi haste?`
`01:39.41`	`haste`	`Sole: Otravi is russian and means: to poison`
`01:39.53`	`Tain`	`Theres kinky, and then there's the people around here. :)`
`01:39.53`	`Sole`	`lol Im russian`
`01:40.01`	`haste`	`Sole: :D`
`01:40.25`	`Sole`	`I always thought it was just your mark on all your addons`
`01:40.37`	`haste`	`in the start it was`
`01:40.46`	`haste`	`I'm trying to not use oXX on everything now`
`01:40.50`	`haste`	`but only on new add ons :)`
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`01:42.48`	`Sole`	`=]`
`01:42.54`	`Sole`	`funny thing is`
`01:43.19`	`Sole`	`some people will probably think oTravi is going to be some sort of master addon of all your oXX addons`
`01:43.20`	`ckknight`	`Industrial, could've just replaced and /rl'd`
`01:43.28`	`CIA-17`	`03sole * r17217 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:`
`01:43.28`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2:`
`01:43.29`	`CIA-17`	`- Added all the new BC spells and talents (I mightve missed a few talents but I tried)`
`01:43.29`	`CIA-17`	`NOTE: There are no icon paths for the BC spells/talents. They are commented out`
`01:43.29`	`CIA-17`	`so you all know which ones to look for. New spells are only in english, other`
`01:43.29`	`CIA-17`	`locales have the new spells commented out so you know which ones aren't`
`01:43.31`	`CIA-17`	`translated.`
`01:43.33`	`CIA-17`	`03usz * r17218 10TooltipExchange/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`01:43.35`	`CIA-17`	`TooltipExchange`
`01:43.37`	`CIA-17`	`- Pretty menu headers`
`01:43.49`	`Sole`	`alrighty`
`01:43.56`	`DrDre`	`CIA is lagged lol`
`01:43.59`	`ckknight`	`Sole, good stuff.`
`01:44.07`	`Sole`	`=]`
`01:44.15`	`Sole`	`now to just fill out the icon paths`
`01:44.16`	Funkeh`	`nice one Sole :D`
`01:44.29`	`Industrial`	`ckknight: doh`
`01:44.38`	`Industrial`	`ckknight: never know about new files`
`01:44.44`	`ckknight`	`meh`
`01:44.48`	`Industrial`	`yes i read changelogs after the update`
`01:44.50`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`01:47.19`	`DrDre`	`ok`
`01:47.26`	`DrDre`	`can someone give me some regex line`
`01:47.39`	`DrDre`	`to find peon*s`
`01:47.47`	`DrDre`	`so i can write an addon to block it`
`01:48.51`	`Sole`	`omg`
`01:48.57`	`Sole`	`I just noticed somethign`
`01:49.01`	`Sole`	`http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-druid/spells.html#none`
`01:49.05`	`Sole`	`click the mangle screenshot`
`01:49.09`	`Sole`	`and read the druid's name!`
`01:49.20`	`Sole`	`even blizz <3 that guy`
`01:50.25`	`CIA-17`	`03usz * r17219 10PrivateChat/ (. Core.lua PrivateChat.toc):`
`01:50.25`	`CIA-17`	`PrivateChat`
`01:50.25`	`CIA-17`	`- Version query`
`01:50.25`	`CIA-17`	`- Pretty menu headers`
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`01:54.35`	`mjc`	`kergoth: boo :P`
`01:54.58`	`kergoth`	`mjc: hm?`
`01:55.07`	`mjc`	`kergoth: friended you.`
`01:55.17`	`mjc`	`talking to random guildies.`
`01:56.21`	`Industrial`	`Sole: who the fuck is Alamo`
`01:56.21`	`kergoth`	`ah`
`01:56.38`	`Tain`	`So today I did one of the most galactically stupid things I've done in a long time.`
`01:56.52`	`ckknight`	`Tain, go on.`
`01:57.14`	`Sole`	`Industrial: Alamo wrote a guide for druids, probably the funniest WoW guide ever`
`01:57.16`	`Tain`	`I was all stressed out about a project at work, was there until after 7 last night, and had a deadline of this morning with more to do.`
`01:57.36`	`mjc`	`kergoth: you're missing BWL?`
`01:57.41`	`Tain`	`So I went ot leave to work and decided I'd take one of the anti-anxiety pills I used to take, and haven't needed in a while.`
`01:58.13`	`ckknight`	`k...`
`01:58.30`	`Industrial`	`Sole: link!!`
`01:58.33`	`Tain`	`Except I wasn't paying attention and took an Ambien instead for the insomnia I also used to have.`
`01:58.37`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`01:58.44`	`kergoth`	`mjc: yea, wasnt signed up, eating dinner atm`
`01:58.49`	`kergoth`	`might hop on if they need more`
`01:58.50`	`mjc`	`ah`
`01:58.52`	`mjc`	`there are 33 on`
`01:58.55`	`Tain`	`Which made for a fuck-all bad day of work.`
`01:58.57`	`kergoth`	`ouch`
`01:59.00`	`mjc`	`they offered to invite but I haven't had the transfer done yet`
`01:59.01`	`nymbia`	`:(`
`01:59.05`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`could have been worse`
`01:59.19`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`you could have woken up with a rubber chicken and a bottle of canola oil, with no memory`
`01:59.43`	`Tain`	`That's one reason I don't take the Ambien, well besides not actually needing it.`
`01:59.48`	`Tain`	`the blackouts were bad.`
`02:00.04`	`mjc`	`Tain: that'd suck.`
`02:00.05`	`Sole`	`Industrial: ill try find it`
`02:00.40`	`Tain`	`This is why I stick to rum. :D`
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`02:02.33`	`Industrial`	`Sole: yay`
`02:02.53`	`Industrial`	`ugh this bloodelf scar story is so emo`
`02:07.33`	`Amadeo`	`http://www.circuitcity.com/image/Category/Special/ps3/tourbox.jpg`
`02:07.49`	`Amadeo`	`dunno if anyone wants one that bad :P`
`02:09.42`	`*** join/#wowace bindi (i=indigo@d51A479A6.access.telenet.be)`
`02:10.12`	`mjc`	`kergoth: kaine says /whipcrack`
`02:11.54`	`Sole`	`Industrial: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12903480&postId=128422836&sid=1#0`
`02:12.10`	`Sole`	`its a repost of Alamo's original post coz the original was deleted by the new forum system`
`02:12.14`	`Industrial`	`k`
`02:12.32`	`Industrial`	`omg its all in nubspeek`
`02:13.07`	`Sole`	`its pro`
`02:13.43`	`Amadeo`	`I hate that Alamo thing`
`02:13.47`	`Amadeo`	`I dunno why people like it so much`
`02:14.31`	`Tain`	`Well see there's a bicycle in the basement.`
`02:14.53`	`mjc`	`Amadeo: it's hilarious`
`02:15.09`	`Sole`	`its hilarious thats why`
`02:15.10`	`Amadeo`	`why? I've seen that stuff for 15 years now`
`02:15.12`	`Sole`	`drink a pot noob lol`
`02:15.49`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`It's not really that funny`
`02:16.03`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`the humorous aspect wears off after about 3 lines, cause he overdoes it`
`02:16.28`	`Sole`	`the pictures are the funny part`
`02:16.32`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Now, this is funny: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/romjul.php`
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`02:18.00`	`mjc`	`kergoth: about?`
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`02:24.58`	`Industrial`	`what is love`
`02:24.59`	`Industrial`	`LOL`
`02:25.01`	`Industrial`	`Neuro_Medivh:`
`02:25.21`	`mjc`	`heh`
`02:25.23`	`haste`	`baby don't hurt me!`
`02:25.30`	`Industrial`	`schwing!`
`02:25.30`	`nymbia`	`~poke CIA-17`
`02:25.32`	`purl`	`ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind CIA-17, pokes CIA-17 repeatedly, hilarity ensues.`
`02:25.32`	`Industrial`	`lol`
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`02:33.46`	`mjc`	`heh I feel like such a noob`
`02:36.12`	`haste`	`was it Tain or Tem that wrote a lib for queing events in cobmat?`
`02:37.26`	`Tekkub`	`hrm... what's the preferred way to check if we're TBC or live in code?`
`02:37.33`	`Tekkub`	`I've seen a few tests...`
`02:38.44`	`haste`	`ckk uses a strange method`
`02:39.05`	`haste`	`but you could just check the build version`
`02:39.13`	`ckknight`	`mine's nice:`
`02:39.23`	`ckknight`	`local lua51 = loadstring("return function(...) return ... end") and true or false`
`02:39.42`	`Tekkub`	`okey, yea that's what I was thinking`
`02:39.54`	`Tekkub`	`sometimes I need lua check, sometimes build`
`02:40.08`	`Tekkub`	`like the changes I'm about to slip in mountme are build dep`
`02:40.14`	`Tekkub`	`not lua :)`
`02:40.28`	`ckknight`	`why?`
`02:40.30`	`mjc`	`how the heck do I get to ~scholo area from UC`
`02:40.32`	`mjc`	`as horde`
`02:40.32`	`mjc`	`h`
`02:40.32`	`mjc`	`ahah`
`02:40.42`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, why a build check and not a lua check?`
`02:40.50`	`Tekkub`	`IsSwimming`
`02:40.57`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`02:41.00`	`ckknight`	`icky.`
`02:41.09`	`Tekkub`	`fixin up MountMe`
`02:41.11`	`ckknight`	`local useSwimming = IsSwimming and true or false`
`02:41.16`	`DrDre`	`wow.... . http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Playstation-3-PS3-System-Console-Premium-60GB_W0QQitemZ110055209362QQihZ001QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem`
`02:41.17`	`ckknight`	`imho.`
`02:41.26`	`Tekkub`	`hrm... that could work too`
`02:41.47`	`MentalPower`	`Tekkub: that will be in with the 2.0.1 patch, so you could just use ckknight's method`
`02:42.01`	`nymbia`	`$15000...? wtf?`
`02:42.02`	`Tekkub`	`yea but mental...`
`02:42.06`	`Tekkub`	`it's on TBC now`
`02:42.10`	`Tekkub`	`is it on PTR?`
`02:42.15`	`Tekkub`	`I bet not :)`
`02:42.17`	`MentalPower`	`it will be`
`02:42.22`	`Tekkub`	`but not yet`
`02:42.28`	`Tekkub`	`I don't feel like branching`
`02:42.45`	`MentalPower`	`right, thats the same argument that ckknight uses for his horrible CF_OE hack, but w/e`
`02:43.00`	`ckknight`	`MentalPower, that's fixed now.`
`02:43.14`	`MentalPower`	`my point exaclty`
`02:43.32`	`Tekkub`	`well yea but, I'm always one for "it just works" mods`
`02:43.41`	`MentalPower`	`IsSwimming will be there next week`
`02:43.44`	`Tekkub`	`I want to make this work in whichever client`
`02:44.34`	`nymbia`	`MentalPower: but if a PTR player snags it before then, they'll get errors ;)`
`02:45.04`	`MentalPower`	`its a PTestR, bugs are part of it`
`02:45.38`	`Tekkub`	`it's a simple enoght test, why even argue it?`
`02:45.52`	`Tekkub`	`if IsSwimming then do shit else do old shit`
`02:46.01`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`02:46.26`	`MentalPower`	`I'm not arguing the case, just the methodology mehind it`
`02:46.33`	`MentalPower`	`s/mehind/behind/`
`02:46.36`	`haste`	`Waaaah!!`
`02:46.40`	`ckknight`	`CIA-17 needs to hurry its ass.`
`02:46.41`	`nymbia`	`easy enough to just get rid of the test as soon as all the clients can do it.`
`02:46.43`	`haste`	`you don't have to restart the client to update the toc!`
`02:46.50`	`haste`	`so much time wasted doing that :(`
`02:46.51`	`ckknight`	`Cartographer now has a "Go to" menu, I think it's useful.`
`02:47.14`	`nymbia`	`ckknight: it still hasnt gotten to the commits i did an hour or so ago, dont hold your breath.`
`02:47.40`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: nice, i was gonna suggest something like that`
`02:47.56`	`nymbia`	`hmm, i'll have to check that out`
`02:48.08`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, try it out, it's much nicer than Blizzard's, imho`
`02:50.52`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, my basic plan is to get rid of Blizzard's top and bottom parts of the world map, so you just have the map and a cartographer button`
`02:50.57`	`ckknight`	`pretty much.`
`02:51.06`	`ckknight`	`as minimalistic as possible.`
`02:52.11`	`kergoth`	`very cool. did you give any thought to my suggestion about seperate alpha levels for pins vs everything else?`
`02:52.23`	`ckknight`	`that's overlay transparency.`
`02:52.33`	`kergoth`	`ah`
`02:52.33`	`*** join/#wowace Kain (i=gunsling@d150-170-171.home.cgocable.net)`
`02:52.39`	`ckknight`	`it's the same transparency as the overlays of the map`
`02:52.44`	`ckknight`	`currently.`
`02:52.46`	`Tekkub`	`SEBreath is no longer needed :)`
`02:52.48`	`kergoth`	`cool`
`02:53.00`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, frankly a good thing, imho`
`02:53.15`	`Tekkub`	`totally agreed, it was only a partial solution`
`02:53.38`	`ckknight`	`much like how it's good that Lern2Spell is now part of WoW 2.0`
`02:53.55`	`nymbia`	`ckknight: i'd vote to have two buttons; a cartographer button and a Go To button`
`02:54.07`	`Tekkub`	`oh yea, forgot about that too`
`02:54.15`	`Tekkub`	`fewer things for me to maintain`
`02:54.21`	`ckknight`	`nymbia, hrm...`
`02:54.28`	`ckknight`	`nymbia, have you seen what we have now?`
`02:54.32`	`Tem`	`haste, it was me`
`02:54.39`	`Tem`	`haste, but I haven't uploaded it yet`
`02:54.48`	`haste`	`Tem: poke me when you have :)`
`02:54.56`	`ckknight`	`I'm not against it`
`02:55.00`	`nymbia`	`yeah, just loaded it up. it's plenty accesible, but it might be a bit cumbersome when swapping between zones a number of times.`
`02:55.01`	`ckknight`	`just wondering where I'm gonna put it.`
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`02:57.18`	`sylvanaar`	`alamo was from my home server, i never realized how many people knew about him`
`02:58.00`	`ckknight`	`I'm thinking I could put the Cartographer button(s) in the top-right or something, then, ripping off AlphaMap, tack two small frames to the top and bottom to move it as you please`
`02:58.11`	`eternally777`	`sylvanaar: who?`
`02:59.32`	`ckknight`	`any thoughts?`
`03:00.06`	`nymbia`	`ckknight: that'd work, yeah.`
`03:00.38`	`ckknight`	`I don't think any maps take up every bit of real estate, so putting the button in the top-right _should_ work`
`03:00.52`	`ckknight`	`also, why you think there should be a separate go to button?`
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`03:03.13`	`nymbia`	`well, just poking around with it just now, i brought up the go to dropdown, clicked a zone, then clicked around on the map itself a bit (dismissed the dewdrop), went back to the go to, which just seemed a little cumbersome -- a button would eliminate a step`
`03:03.34`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`03:03.38`	`ckknight`	`maybe so...`
`03:03.56`	`ckknight`	`I get what you're saying.`
`03:04.09`	`ckknight`	`also: maybe I could make the button change text, so that it's the name of the current map.`
`03:05.12`	`nymbia`	`you could even treat it differently and merge the two dropdowns that blizzard has.. say for instance, you're looking at a zone in kalimdor, and you want to look at another zone in kalimdor.. prehaps the dropdown could contain first all the kalimdor zones, then the eastern kingdoms and instance arrows.`
`03:05.39`	`nymbia`	`although that might make it a pain in the ass to go between continents using go to, since you'd have to scroll by all those zones..`
`03:06.28`	`ckknight`	`I figure the continent -> zone deal is good that we have now`
`03:06.33`	`ckknight`	`just possible in a single Go to button.`
`03:06.45`	`Kain`	`Forgive the question but I'm new here, is the SVN restricted? I wanted to commit a patch for ag_unitframes but I'm an old-timer and most my experience is with CVS.`
`03:06.47`	`sylvanaar`	`eternally777: alamo`
`03:06.48`	`nymbia`	`yeah`
`03:07.05`	`nymbia`	`Kain: you need to get an SVN account`
`03:07.07`	`ckknight`	`Kain, you need to get an account, it's not public-commit.`
`03:07.16`	`ckknight`	`also, you may want to ask the author before committing.`
`03:07.36`	`nymbia`	`Kain: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules#Getting_an_Account`
`03:07.41`	`Kain`	`I was going to tag it temporarily, I can't seem to find the author, emailed and whatnot.`
`03:07.47`	`ckknight`	`classtime`
`03:07.47`	`Kain`	`ok, thanks nymbia`
`03:07.54`	`nymbia`	`~seen andg`
`03:08.18`	`purl`	`andg <n=andg@we.are.exlnt.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 4h 7m 8s ago, saying: ':)'.`
`03:08.26`	`sylvanaar`	`Kain: is it a patch for tbc?`
`03:08.27`	`haarm`	~seen ag`
`03:08.30`	`purl`	ag` <n=ag`@0x503e75de.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 38m 18s ago, saying: 'nn'.
`03:08.51`	`Kain`	`sylvanaar, yes, its just a temporary fix`
`03:09.03`	`haarm`	`kain, updates for UnitBuff / Debuff ?`
`03:09.07`	`Kain`	`yeah`
`03:09.07`	`nymbia`	`oh yeah i've heard there's problems with it since the newest beta build`
`03:09.22`	`Kain`	`Most unitframe mods are having the same problem due to the changes`
`03:09.23`	`sylvanaar`	`nymbia: yeah there are`
`03:09.31`	`haarm`	`nymbia UnitBuff / UnitDebuff have been changed, they have 2 new returned parameters`
`03:09.32`	`Kain`	`or "huds"`
`03:09.51`	`nymbia`	`ah`
`03:09.54`	`haarm`	`was easy to fix.. x, y = UnitBuff(blah) -> _, _, x, y = UnitBuff(blah)`
`03:10.11`	`Kain`	`Yeah it wasnt hard`
`03:10.11`	`sylvanaar`	`thats it?`
`03:10.17`	`haarm`	`now has the buffs tooltip name and rank as the first 2 params`
`03:10.28`	`haarm`	`so 2nd param is for example "Rank 6"`
`03:10.41`	`Kain`	`non-authors dont know though and theres a bunch of posts on the forums so I was going to throw up a tagged version`
`03:10.42`	`nymbia`	`i didnt think they had rank names attached to buffs O.o`
`03:10.48`	`haarm`	`they do now`
`03:11.37`	`Kalamadi`	`Why doesn't Stoneform remove Hemorrage?`
`03:11.51`	`haarm`	`it's not a bleed effect or a poison?`
`03:11.59`	`Kalamadi`	`Hemorrage means "to cause to bleed"`
`03:12.20`	`haarm`	`I know, but I don't think it's classed as a "bleed effect"`
`03:12.30`	`haarm`	`since you don't take periodic damage`
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`03:12.38`	`Kalamadi`	`I claim this is a bug.`
`03:12.52`	`sylvanaar`	`its a bleed bonus effect like shadow vulnerability`
`03:13.02`	`sylvanaar`	`is to shadow`
`03:13.02`	`haarm`	`shadow vulnerability isn't a bleed bonus`
`03:13.07`	`haarm`	`:p`
`03:14.09`	`sylvanaar`	`if you look up the skill you can find what aura it applies`
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`03:15.45`	`sylvanaar`	`Apply Aura: Mod Damage Taken (Physical)`
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`03:16.35`	`beerke`	`Does bossblock block whispers by default if bigiwigs is installed ?`
`03:16.54`	`beerke`	`s/bigiwigs/BigWigs`
`03:17.19`	`haarm`	`I think it might just put spam control on them, for boss related ones`
`03:17.48`	`haarm`	`I can't remember changing the settings for it, and I usually get a whisper when I've got a nasty debuff`
`03:18.32`	`beerke`	`hmmm`
`03:20.09`	`nymbia`	`yeah, i think i remember a setting to only let one of a whisper through`
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`03:22.02`	`ckknight_`	`today, we're learning about Dynamic Programming`
`03:22.12`	`*** join/#wowace Neebler (n=bum@ppp-209-77-228-49.dsl.chi2ca.pacbell.net)`
`03:22.36`	`haarm`	`dynamic how?`
`03:22.54`	`Neebler`	`What's the toc version # for the PTR?`
`03:23.07`	`ckknight`	`20000`
`03:23.10`	`ckknight`	`haarm, caching.`
`03:23.24`	`sylvanaar`	`is it code that writes itself, or dynamic composition`
`03:23.26`	`ckknight`	`remember all, when I did the squares metatable thing?`
`03:23.34`	`ckknight`	`sylvanaar, just caching.`
`03:23.49`	`sylvanaar`	`ah kk`
`03:24.00`	`ckknight`	`local squares = setmetatable({}, { __index = function(self, num) self[num] = num^2 return self[num] end })`
`03:24.07`	`ckknight`	`assert(squares[2] == 4) -- computes`
`03:24.10`	`ckknight`	`assert(squares[2] == 4) -- uses cache`
`03:24.33`	`haarm`	`never used metatables`
`03:24.39`	`ckknight`	`they're shiny.`
`03:25.12`	`Kodewulf_`	`anybody else having problems starting TBC 2.0.2.6144??`
`03:25.12`	`haarm`	`Kodewulf_, apparently, disable elk buff bars`
`03:25.12`	`ckknight`	`Kodewulf_, delete the blizzard folders in your interface folder.`
`03:25.27`	`Kodewulf_`	`ah... thx guys...`
`03:25.58`	`Tekkub`	`ckk, is the AceLibrary TBC branch missing the LoD find and load code?`
`03:27.15`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, I don't know, I didn't put it in there.`
`03:27.22`	`ckknight`	`if you didn't put it in, then it is missing it.`
`03:27.28`	`ckknight`	`but I'm not really sure.`
`03:27.35`	`Tekkub`	`yea, lets see if I can break it wif a merge :)`
`03:27.46`	`nymbia`	`this isn't gonna be pretty.`
`03:28.31`	`haarm`	`nymbia, that's what reverts are for :D`
`03:28.39`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, may be better to copy-paste the specific code...`
`03:31.04`	`Kirkburn`	`The Treeform dance! http://www.wcradio.com/imba/treeform.wmv`
`03:31.45`	`Xuerian`	`Treeform gets a dance? Aye.... Just so long as it's better than bear and cat`
`03:31.48`	`Kirkburn`	`For some reason I have no Blizz folders in the interface folder on Vista`
`03:31.55`	`Kirkburn`	`Yeah, it's cool :)`
`03:32.16`	`Xuerian`	`Good v.v`
`03:32.37`	`nymbia`	`Kirkburn: Blizzard_AuctionUI etc etc`
`03:32.38`	`Xuerian`	`At least something to compensate for loosing noggenfogger morphs :p`
`03:32.55`	`Kirkburn`	`Yeah, Vista hides them well`
`03:33.22`	`Kirkburn`	`They're put into a compatability folder, but for some reason it doesn't link to it from the AddOns folder (but does from the WTF foldeR)`
`03:33.56`	`*** join/#wowace Freedon (n=LOLLERSK@ip68-4-78-174.oc.oc.cox.net)`
`03:34.20`	`Freedon`	`WTB Beta Key`
`03:35.25`	`Freedon`	`anyhow`
`03:35.29`	`Freedon`	`is anyone getting pink names with prat/`
`03:35.39`	`Kirkburn`	`Coloured by class`
`03:35.46`	`Freedon`	`i know that`
`03:35.49`	`Freedon`	`but every name is pink`
`03:35.54`	`nymbia`	`Freedon: yeah, it's a new setting`
`03:36.14`	`Freedon`	`nymbia: how does one change this setting?`
`03:36.23`	`Kalamadi`	`It's subliminal. Paladins > *.`
`03:36.49`	`Freedon`	`Druids > Paladins!`
`03:37.00`	`Kirkburn`	`Do you use Fubar?`
`03:37.06`	`nymbia`	`Freedon: /prat playernames setcolor`
`03:37.07`	`Freedon`	`yes`
`03:37.25`	`Kirkburn`	`Shoudl be possible from the Prat Fubar plugin, but also what nymbia said :)`
`03:37.31`	`nymbia`	`or rather, /prat playernames usecommoncolor`
`03:37.48`	`Freedon`	`thank you :)`
`03:37.57`	`Freedon`	`nymbia: aren't you the writer of perl nymbia?`
`03:38.03`	`nymbia`	`a long time ago ;)`
`03:38.10`	`Freedon`	`quit?`
`03:38.41`	`nymbia`	`quit.. well, i quit maintaining that, yes. but i wrote it about a year and a half ago`
`03:39.12`	`Freedon`	`hehe, i loved that addon when i first got into the addon game :P`
`03:39.18`	`nymbia`	`thanks :D`
`03:40.26`	`Freedon`	`closest thing to it now ace2'd is gotta be oUF`
`03:40.29`	`sylvanaar`	`UnitBuff() used to return 3 values`
`03:40.37`	`Freedon`	`you should go work with haste on it ;)`
`03:41.15`	`haste`	`hmm?`
`03:41.40`	`Freedon`	`haste go finish oUF!`
`03:41.42`	`Freedon`	`:)`
`03:41.59`	`nymbia`	`more of a 'rewrite' with 2.0 on the horizon`
`03:42.08`	`ckknight`	`here's a fun play with metatables:`
`03:43.02`	`Freedon`	`anyhow someone give me a really good texture OTHER then bantobar`
`03:43.06`	`Freedon`	`remaking ui again :)`
`03:43.26`	`ckknight`	`fib = setmetatable({}, { __index = function(self, n) if n <= 1 then self[n] = n return n end; self[n] = self[n-1] + self[n-2]; return self[n] end })`
`03:43.36`	`haste`	`http://fuxsake.net/ << how does the RSS icons look?`
`03:43.59`	`ckknight`	`assert(fib[10] == 55)`
`03:44.16`	`haste`	`Freedon: glaze`
`03:44.21`	`Silviu-`	`DarkBottom`
`03:44.22`	`Silviu-`	`:P`
`03:45.09`	`haste`	`now, someone reply to my question!`
`03:46.17`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: hehe, i have one like that in my luabits dir too. great example usage of mts`
`03:46.17`	`Fudge`	`haste, the answer is 'not really'.`
`03:46.32`	`haste`	`they look... not really?`
`03:46.41`	`Fudge`	`Not really, no.`
`03:46.48`	`Silviu-`	`haste Server not found`
`03:46.48`	`Silviu-`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:46.51`	`Silviu-`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:46.52`	`kergoth`	`meh, i hope this bwl finishes soon, i sleepy`
`03:46.53`	`Silviu-`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:46.54`	`haste`	`ookey`
`03:46.55`	`Silviu-`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:46.55`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, :-)`
`03:46.57`	`Xuerian`	`I like them, haste.`
`03:46.57`	`Silviu-`	`Firefox can't find the server at www.fuxsake.net.`
`03:46.57`	`kergoth`	`...`
`03:46.57`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`03:46.59`	`Silviu-`	`ups`
`03:47.01`	`Silviu-`	`Srry`
`03:47.02`	`kergoth`	`Silviu-: enough with the spam please`
`03:47.05`	`ckknight`	`Silviu-, bad.`
`03:47.09`	`haste`	`it works here however!`
`03:47.10`	`Silviu-`	`Yes srry :)`
`03:47.12`	`ckknight`	`don't do that again :-P`
`03:47.13`	`Xuerian`	`Haha, dialup wins again`
`03:47.17`	`ckknight`	`only I'm allowed to do that.`
`03:47.25`	`nymbia`	`lol`
`03:47.27`	`Fudge`	`haste, well, my real answer would be: 'What RSS icons?'`
`03:47.47`	`Kirkburn`	`They're grey`
`03:47.52`	`Kirkburn`	`In the middle of each line`
`03:47.53`	`haste`	`uhm? the once that are almost at the middle of the page`
`03:48.06`	`Fudge`	`Oh, those.. what about 'em? ;P`
`03:48.10`	`Kirkburn`	`They're too 'quiet'`
`03:48.20`	`haste`	`the default color was to shocking`
`03:48.20`	`Fudge`	`They look like the FF ones but.. grey. ;P`
`03:48.27`	`Kirkburn`	`Well yes, orange is like that :P`
`03:48.33`	`haste`	`Fudge: the FF one is the DEFAULT Rss icon`
`03:48.46`	`haste`	`give me a sec`
`03:49.13`	`Fudge`	`They look good, fits into the page's color scheme nicely.`
`03:49.30`	`haste`	`Kirkburn: refresh`
`03:49.38`	`Fudge`	`Minimalistic rocks.`
`03:49.46`	`haste`	`I could place them at the end tho'`
`03:50.00`	`Xuerian`	`haste: Premade or custom style?`
`03:50.09`	`Kirkburn`	`I see what you mean - how about instead of the bullet points?`
`03:50.12`	`haste`	`Xuerian: pre-made`
`03:50.25`	`haste`	`Xuerian: but I've changed quite a lot of the CSS, especially for posts`
`03:50.49`	`ckknight`	`fact = setmetatable({}, {__index = function(self, n) self[n] = n * self[n-1]; return self[n] end})`
`03:50.54`	`ckknight`	`assert(fact[6] == 120)`
`03:51.00`	`Kirkburn`	`I should mention, the header is broken in IE7`
`03:51.04`	`Fudge`	`haste, place 'em at the end.`
`03:51.06`	`haste`	`refresh now`
`03:51.10`	`haste`	`I've done that now`
`03:51.14`	`Tekkub`	`there a nice list of secure functions somewhere?`
`03:51.18`	`Kirkburn`	`Better :)`
`03:51.23`	`haste`	`that looks quite a lot better actually`
`03:51.23`	`Tekkub`	`like.... the wiki`
`03:51.40`	`haste`	`Tekkub: seems like everything is protected on the current TBC patch`
`03:51.47`	`ckknight`	err, forgot `fact[1] = 1`
`03:51.48`	`haste`	`Tekkub: all, almost everything`
`03:51.55`	`Tekkub`	`oh so it's not just me being stupid?`
`03:51.56`	`haste`	`s/all/err/`
`03:52.16`	`haste`	`Tekkub: two patches ago, only some of it were protected`
`03:52.31`	`haste`	`Tekkub: the last patch (not the one today), added LOADS to the protected list`
`03:52.45`	`Tekkub`	`hrm...`
`03:52.47`	`haste`	`not sure if it was a mistake or not, but it's annoying`
`03:53.03`	`Tekkub`	`okey so it's not just me then`
`03:53.20`	`Tekkub`	`I though shit like casting and blah blah blah was only protected in combat`
`03:53.26`	`haste`	`I don't have a US account, so I can't really whine about it on the forum`
`03:53.35`	`haste`	`you can't even change weapons outisde combat`
`03:53.43`	`Kirkburn`	`haste, what's with the other Warmup?`
`03:53.53`	`haste`	`PickupInventoryItem is protected`
`03:53.56`	`Xuerian`	`haste: Well I likey :p`
`03:54.02`	`Tekkub`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:54.31`	`haste`	`Xuerian: I basicly combined my old forum code, with my web pages`
`03:54.32`	`Tekkub`	`just when I get the motivation to work on shit blizzy does this to me :P`
`03:54.57`	`haste`	`Xuerian: the forum uses Textile instead of BBCodes, which makes the post look quite a lot better :)`
`03:55.06`	`haste`	`which reminds me`
`03:55.12`	`haste`	`I should fix quoting`
`03:55.13`	`Xuerian`	`Works out nicely. But why not just make the rss icon the forum bullet?`
`03:55.40`	`Zicon`	`Textile <3`
`03:55.44`	`Xuerian`	`Er well no, I suppose it goes throughout the whole layout as a blue square`
`03:56.22`	`Kirkburn`	`Anyone - any difference between !Warmup and Warmup?`
`03:57.31`	`haste`	`Xuerian: 'cause it changes based on new posts or not`
`03:57.38`	`haste`	`Kirkburn: on Linux, no`
`03:57.45`	`haste`	`Kirkburn: on some Windowses, yes`
`03:57.48`	`Xuerian`	`haste: Looks better on the right.`
`03:57.54`	`haste`	`Kirkburn: !Warmup loads before, Warmup for some`
`03:58.28`	`Kirkburn`	`That's all though?`
`03:58.34`	`ckknight`	`C = setmetatable({}, { __index = function(self, n) self[n] = setmetatable({},{__index = function(self, k) if k == n or k == 0 then C[n][k] = 1 else C[n][k] = C[n-1][k-1] + C[n-1][k] end return self[k] end}) return self[n] end })`
`03:58.44`	`haste`	`Kirkburn: between those two folder names, yes`
`03:58.47`	`ckknight`	`assert(C[4][2] == 6)`
`03:58.52`	`Kirkburn`	`Ta`
`03:59.20`	`haste`	`Tekkub: so... will you whine some on the forum :) ?`
`03:59.32`	`Tekkub`	`I don't have a live acct right now`
`03:59.41`	`Tekkub`	`you know, a simple error message would be nice`
`03:59.47`	`haste`	`oh, that's nice :D`
`03:59.49`	`Tekkub`	`instead of "OMG DISABLE IT!"`
`04:00.36`	`Kirkburn`	`Hmm, so MountMe is teh brokzor`
`04:01.45`	`Tekkub`	`very`
`04:01.53`	`Tekkub`	`and here I thought I'd be fixing it`
`04:02.03`	`Tekkub`	`right now it's trying to get me to disable PT :P`
`04:02.21`	`haste`	`that's... nice`
`04:02.42`	`Tekkub`	`like I said, how bout a bit of fucking detail as to what I'm calling eh?`
`04:03.01`	`haste`	`Tekkub: BugSack + BugGrabber will help you with a stack`
`04:03.11`	`Tekkub`	`maybe I'll hack my lil errorredirect to dump a stack when that bitch happens`
`04:03.13`	`haste`	`very useful for the "OMG DISABLE TEH TAINT??!"`
`04:03.27`	`haste`	`s/$/ happens/`
`04:13.29`	`Tekkub`	`yea it's UseContainerItem, huzzah`
`04:20.40`	`DrDre`	`Tekkub:`
`04:20.46`	`DrDre`	`that action blocked addon does that does it not?`
`04:20.55`	`Tekkub`	`no`
`04:21.02`	`DrDre`	`i know it spams me about ace2 trying to do shapeshiftX:hide`
`04:21.04`	`Tekkub`	`MountMe is doing it, not PT`
`04:21.20`	`DrDre`	`i mean`
`04:21.27`	`Tekkub`	`their error box is totally oblivious to embed design :P`
`04:21.29`	`DrDre`	`it tells u what functions being called thats blocked`
`04:21.40`	`Tekkub`	`or standalone libs for that matter`
`04:21.47`	`Tekkub`	`no it doesn't`
`04:21.58`	`Tekkub`	`you have to dump your own debug if you want that info`
`04:22.26`	`DrDre`	`is this 2 diff types of errors then? cuz that addon is showing whats being blocked for me O.o`
`04:22.32`	`nymbia`	`Tekkub: i think bugsack handles those events`
`04:23.09`	`Tekkub`	`I already fixed my ErrorRedirect to do it`
`04:23.20`	`nymbia`	`that works too :)`
`04:24.07`	`Tekkub`	`local f = CreateFrame("Frame")`
`04:24.07`	`Tekkub`	`f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, ...)`
`04:24.07`	`Tekkub`	`ChatFrame5:AddMessage(table.concat({...}, ", "), 0.0, 1.0, 1.0)`
`04:24.07`	`Tekkub`	`end)`
`04:24.08`	`Tekkub`	`f:RegisterEvent("ADDON_ACTION_FORBIDDEN")`
`04:24.08`	`Tekkub`	`f:RegisterEvent("ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED")`
`04:24.16`	`Tekkub`	`to complement....`
`04:24.22`	`Tekkub`	`ScriptErrors.Show = function(objData)`
`04:24.22`	`Tekkub`	`ChatFrame5:AddMessage(ScriptErrors_Message:GetText(), 1.0, 0.0, 0.0)`
`04:24.22`	`Tekkub`	`ChatFrame5:AddMessage(debugstack(), 1.0, 1.0, 0.0)`
`04:24.22`	`Tekkub`	`end`
`04:24.27`	`Tekkub`	`that's the whole addon BTW`
`04:24.40`	`Tekkub`	`fuck bugsack :)`
`04:25.22`	`ckknight`	`but you'd get extra stuff, like the ScriptErrors:Show() command`
`04:25.33`	`ckknight`	`and your OnEvent should have a debugstack`
`04:25.40`	`ckknight`	`also, don't spam the channel.`
`04:25.51`	`Tekkub`	`I don't need a stack`
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`04:26.00`	`Tekkub`	`I just need to know what is protected`
`04:26.14`	`Tekkub`	`I know damn well what addon is at issue`
`04:26.20`	`ckknight`	`but a debugstack could be very handy.`
`04:26.34`	`Tekkub`	`then add one if you need it, I don't here`
`04:26.37`	`XLVII`	`Does anyone know anything about the new Oceanic realm? There is no news on the WoW site, and you can't even create characters on it.`
`04:27.19`	Funkeh`	`nn`
`04:27.29`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`there's a post about it on the general forum`
`04:27.54`	`XLVII`	`Neuro_Medivh, thanks.`
`04:28.03`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=46949538&sid=1`
`04:29.12`	`Tekkub`	`fuck it, maybe I'll just make a castsequence macro :)`
`04:29.29`	`Tekkub`	`I mean, the thing here that I can't do with the new macros is random mount`
`04:30.10`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:30.13`	`ckknight`	`how is that not random?`
`04:30.16`	`nymbia`	`well, even with a cast sequence, the problem is dismounting`
`04:30.46`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:30.50`	`ckknight`	`or something.`
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`04:32.32`	`nymbia`	`is there a universal that works for that, or would you need to do /cancelaura for each of the mounts? ie.. /cancelaura Red Mount /cancelAura Blue Mount /userandom Red Mount, Blue Mount`
`04:33.08`	`Kalamadi`	`Are paladins getting Spiritual Attunement in the patch?`
`04:33.19`	`ckknight`	`nymbia, you may be right.`
`04:33.26`	`ckknight`	`nymbia, but I think that will actually work.`
`04:33.32`	`nymbia`	`yeah, it should.`
`04:34.26`	`Silviu-`	`Black war tiger ownz, no need for rdms :P`
`04:44.07`	`ckknight`	`http://games.slashdot.org/games/06/11/16/2216246.shtml`
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`04:46.59`	`Tekkub`	`doesn't seem to work`
`04:47.03`	`Tekkub`	`someone report it for me :)`
`04:47.19`	`Tekkub`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:47.28`	`Tekkub`	`stupid irc with it's slash commands`
`04:47.39`	`nymbia`	`actually, i'm not sure if randomuse is implemented yet.`
`04:47.40`	`haste`	`/l2ptek`
`04:48.24`	`Industrial`	`/l2/say /`
`04:48.35`	`haste`	`or...`
`04:48.36`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`04:48.39`	`haste`	`/ /slash`
`04:48.59`	`Industrial`	`shh i was being witty`
`04:49.18`	`haste`	`:-P`
`04:50.33`	`Tekkub`	`well fuck :)`
`04:50.50`	`Tekkub`	`MountMe's random mountup stuff might go away completely`
`04:50.59`	`Tekkub`	`only do swaps and dismounts`
`04:51.13`	`Tekkub`	`I'll use castsequence until the random use works`
`04:52.35`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`does /randomuse not work?`
`04:52.35`	`nymbia`	`Tekkub: you could generate and assign the proper macro for randommount.. how was it that you could assign arbitrary macros, ckk?`
`04:52.44`	`Tekkub`	`I just said that :)`
`04:52.57`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`try userandom`
`04:53.01`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I know they changed the name`
`04:53.06`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`not sure which version is in the beta`
`04:53.54`	`Tekkub`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:56.53`	`ckknight`	`nymbia, you can assign it to a button...`
`04:57.14`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:57.14`	`Tekkub`	`you know what would be nice too, /dismount`
`04:57.24`	`Tekkub`	`instead of having to cancel all those auras`
`04:57.30`	`ckknight`	`ask Slouken for it?`
`04:57.40`	`Tekkub`	`I don't have a live acct now`
`04:58.07`	`ckknight`	`why not?`
`04:58.34`	`Tekkub`	`cause I cancelled the CC payment the other day cause I don't get paid till tamara`
`04:58.40`	`Tekkub`	`and my TBC acct still works so...`
`04:58.48`	`Tekkub`	`I think you see where I'm headed here :)`
`04:58.56`	`ckknight`	`ah.`
`04:59.00`	`Tekkub`	`not like I play anyway`
`04:59.03`	`ckknight`	`fair enough.`
`04:59.08`	`ckknight`	`same here`
`04:59.18`	`ckknight`	`I'll let mine run out until January, I guess.`
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`05:00.26`	`Tekkub`	`hell I kinda like the castsequence :)`
`05:00.48`	`Tekkub`	`I get to show off all my mounts`
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`05:01.02`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`05:02.18`	`kergoth`	`castsequence looks interesting.. its too bad you cant make it any smarter with conditionals in the sequence, but better than nothing`
`05:02.53`	`Tekkub`	`well you can do different sequences with different conditionals`
`05:03.47`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`castsequence is cool.. my frost nova/blink macro rocks`
`05:04.06`	`kergoth`	`hmm i should use it for a sprint+vanish`
`05:04.16`	`Tekkub`	`^^`
`05:04.40`	`Tekkub`	`the new macro system seems fairly useable really`
`05:04.57`	`Tekkub`	`before I just did /script CallAFunction`
`05:04.58`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`the best use is two abilities with reasonably long cooldowns that you use together a lot`
`05:06.26`	`Tekkub`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:06.30`	`Tekkub`	`gah`
`05:07.12`	`Tekkub`	`they need to make macro store serverside damnit`
`05:07.41`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`why?`
`05:07.46`	`Zicon`	`Yes. Yes, they do.`
`05:08.07`	`Tekkub`	`because I play at work too`
`05:08.19`	`Tekkub`	`and I don't wanna have to sync shit :P`
`05:08.24`	`Zicon`	`You play at work? I want your job!`
`05:09.56`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
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`05:11.00`	`Zicon`	`Well, theoretically I play at work, too, seeing that I work from home.`
`05:12.51`	`ckknight`	`I go to school, so I play in the library.`
`05:12.54`	`Xuerian`	`Work? What's that?`
`05:13.38`	`ckknight`	`they probably should store macros server-side...`
`05:14.00`	`nymbia`	`the stuff that gets stored server side is pretty inconsistant..`
`05:14.11`	`ckknight`	`yea...`
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`05:14.30`	`Tekkub`	`I'll just work out a sync for my WTF with my USB key`
`05:14.35`	`nymbia`	`like, it stores if the default ui's bottomright, bottomleft, and right action bars are shown. makes no sense at all.`
`05:14.56`	`kergoth`	`Tekkub: set up a personal svn somewhere, thats what i do for stuff like that`
`05:15.17`	`Tekkub`	`I have the USB key for this shit`
`05:37.27`	`ckknight`	`man, I am not good at reading women. How do I tell if one likes me? I'm pretty sure this one girl does, but it'd be real nice to be certain`
`05:38.10`	`Gngsk`	`if you were certain it'd take all the fun out of it`
`05:38.22`	`ckknight`	`I suppose, but at least it wouldn't be so hard.`
`05:38.35`	`ckknight`	`one issue is that she's like 2-3 years older than me`
`05:38.50`	`ckknight`	`which I don't know how much that complicates matters`
`05:39.07`	`nymbia`	`there's no univeral factor to tell or not, ck. depends on the woman ;)`
`05:39.22`	`ckknight`	`blast`
`05:39.32`	`ckknight`	`why can't we have a properly documented API for them?`
`05:39.37`	`nymbia`	`rofl`
`05:39.49`	`nymbia`	`seriously ;)`
`05:40.07`	`ckknight`	`you know it'd make things easier.`
`05:40.23`	`nymbia`	`yup.`
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`05:40.26`	`ckknight`	`the lack of documentation means every crappy date we go on is a way to reverse engineer them.`
`05:41.00`	`kergoth`	`the problem is women always act subtle about it, and we're too blind for that to work`
`05:41.23`	`ckknight`	`I know...`
`05:41.45`	`ckknight`	`one other issue is that I have a date with someone else tomorrow`
`05:41.57`	`ckknight`	`but I'm pro-polygamy, so I don't think that is too big a problem`
`05:42.31`	`nymbia`	`it might be for them`
`05:42.42`	`ckknight`	`yea, I know`
`05:42.46`	`ckknight`	`but they're unlikely to meet`
`05:43.03`	`ckknight`	`does tend to twist my heartstrings differently, though`
`05:46.31`	`ckknight`	`well, I came expecting advice, but got none`
`05:46.52`	`ckknight`	`to think that you nerds aren't good with women. what has the world come to? sigh`
`05:46.57`	`Xuerian`	`I usually spout advice like the local kung-fu master, but after my last relationship I realized that I suck more at it than I thought possible.`
`05:47.07`	`nymbia`	`well, i live with my girlfriend. ;)`
`05:47.12`	`ckknight`	`lol, nymbia`
`05:47.20`	`ckknight`	`who mooches off who?`
`05:47.24`	`kergoth`	`i understand them better than most, but that doesnt mean i'm any less oblivious to their subtlety`
`05:47.30`	`Xuerian`	`That and I'm back with a ex I don't really wanna be with and don't have the yearning to crush at the moment <.<`
`05:47.33`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, fair enough`
`05:47.43`	`nymbia`	`ckknight: neither, actually. we're both broke. ;)`
`05:47.53`	`ckknight`	`nymbia, ah, good times.`
`05:48.02`	`Xuerian`	`Same, kergoth. At least when it's not with their relationship to me :P`
`05:48.06`	`kergoth`	`i met my current gf online, like 8 years ago or something`
`05:48.11`	`kergoth`	`we live together now`
`05:48.41`	`ckknight`	`meh, I tend not to date at all, or at least very often. Granted, I constantly hit on like 3-4 separate girls, and I can't tell if any of them are so inclined. Also, I'm a student, and thus don't have much money to throw around.`
`05:48.49`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, online where? (jw)`
`05:49.20`	`kergoth`	`icq, it had this message a random person feature`
`05:49.25`	`ckknight`	`no judging, my date tomorrow is an online one. (amazingly enough, she's cute, though)`
`05:49.35`	`ckknight`	`lol, kergoth, good times.`
`05:49.51`	`kergoth`	`still have that icq account, not that it means much, all i get from logging onto icq now is spam`
`05:49.56`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`05:50.08`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`05:52.53`	`ckknight`	`also, I don't have a car`
`05:52.58`	`ckknight`	`which can pose a problem.`
`05:53.18`	`ckknight`	`and I can't really get a real job, cause it doesn't fit into my schedule`
`05:53.26`	`ckknight`	`oh well`
`05:53.30`	`ckknight`	`I'm probably just hungry.`
`05:58.54`	`ckknight`	`and I'm going on a date tomorrow, so that might work out`
`05:59.02`	`ckknight`	`note: I don't date often`
`05:59.21`	`ckknight`	`typically becuase I trick myself into a utilitarian way of thinking that it's not necessary`
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`06:01.26`	`Adrine`	`Is there a way to interrupt a click chain on PreClick, so that it doesn't ever process OnClick?`
`06:01.36`	`ckknight`	`mmm... I doubt it.`
`06:01.43`	`Adrine`	`Bah.`
`06:02.16`	`Xuerian`	`not necessary?`
`06:02.50`	`Adrine`	`I have a secure frame of type "item", and I want to pick the item up on LeftClick (ContainerFrameItemButton_OnClick), but if I'm targeting a spell (poison, enchant, etc), it needs to filter through to the item.`
`06:02.55`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian, that having a relationship in and of itself is unnecessary`
`06:03.10`	`Adrine`	`In that case I'd want my button to use the inherited OnClick`
`06:03.49`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: Hm, well... Arguably true, supposing your goals don't include adding your genes to the continuing pool of humanity, which is a perfectly reasonable state of mind.`
`06:04.04`	`ckknight`	`yea, it's not necessary according to my belief system`
`06:04.12`	`ckknight`	`but I still am slave to my biology`
`06:04.16`	`ckknight`	`therefore, want sex`
`06:04.23`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: Boring as all get out, and rather rough on the palm, tho.`
`06:04.32`	`Xuerian`	`Or.... whatever.... you... use`
`06:04.52`	`ckknight`	`and seeing as I'm straight and not gay, I have to like go on dates and such before sex becomes viable`
`06:05.15`	`Xuerian`	`What? You mean all these dating hotlines are lying to me?!`
`06:05.36`	`Xuerian`	`:P`
`06:05.48`	`ckknight`	`though casual sex is possible, it's typically not very substantial, and not appealing to me.`
`06:06.16`	`Xuerian`	`More emotionally involved or animalistically passionate are required to make it worth the effort?`
`06:06.36`	`ckknight`	`pretty much, I'd prefer to be emotionally involved than not`
`06:06.47`	`ckknight`	`so casual sex isn't really an option`
`06:06.59`	`kergoth`	`does the ui extractor work with the tbc client? it doenst seem to here, is there a tbc extractor?`
`06:07.05`	`ckknight`	`yes, kergoth`
`06:07.07`	`ckknight`	`~framexml`
`06:07.15`	`purl`	`get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip`
`06:07.17`	`ckknight`	`use the second one`
`06:07.33`	`kergoth`	`ah cool, thanks`
`06:07.41`	`kergoth`	`figured i'd get off my lazy ass and learn the secure state stuff`
`06:07.46`	`ckknight`	`hehe.`
`06:07.53`	`ckknight`	`I'm still wondering if I should bother learning that`
`06:07.57`	`ckknight`	`and if I do, what would I make?`
`06:08.01`	`Xuerian`	`Someone extracted the ui earlier <.<... using what I've no clue. ckknight: Hm well, does make sense. And this date you're focusing on at the moment, it's a prospect for emotional envolvement?`
`06:08.35`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian, theoretically, if I date this girl, I'll become emotionally involved, and eventually phyisically involved`
`06:08.44`	`ckknight`	`thus obeying my biological needs`
`06:08.48`	`ckknight`	`ad nauseum`
`06:09.12`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: Theoretically sure, but is there anything appealing to your emotional desires in particular, or just simply a set of met parameters?`
`06:09.42`	`ckknight`	`mostly the parameters, as far as I can tell`
`06:09.50`	`ckknight`	`alright, I gotta go home`
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`06:09.53`	`ckknight`	`cya in like an hour`
`06:09.55`	`Xuerian`	`Have fun :p`
`06:10.01`	`Xuerian`	`'night :p`
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`06:17.29`	`mjc`	`well`
`06:17.35`	`mjc`	`that was the most expensive scholo run ever`
`06:17.38`	`Srosh`	`well well`
`06:17.39`	`mjc`	`but it was fun. :P`
`06:17.48`	`Srosh`	`what happened?`
`06:17.52`	`FelixTeCat`	`Thats a plus`
`06:18.04`	`mjc`	`first time tanking with noobs`
`06:18.11`	`FelixTeCat`	`lol`
`06:18.35`	`FelixTeCat`	`I havent ran a 5 man in over nine months I would hate to think about that`
`06:18.40`	`mjc`	`hard as fuck to keep bosses from hitting the rogue when the rogue gets seen in stealth before I pull :P`
`06:18.57`	`Xuerian`	`That's what we call a interesting tanking situation`
`06:19.02`	`Xuerian`	`Class?`
`06:19.06`	`mjc`	`druid`
`06:19.13`	`Xuerian`	`Amen.`
`06:19.17`	`mjc`	`:P`
`06:19.25`	`FelixTeCat`	`Feral druid FTW`
`06:19.41`	`Xuerian`	`Mhm.`
`06:19.55`	`mjc`	`0/30/21, but I think when I do the server transfer I'mma respec to 0/31/20, LotP is enticing P`
`06:19.55`	`mjc`	`:P`
`06:19.57`	`Xuerian`	`Just sucks that noggenfogger doesn't work through shifts anymore. It was fun doing scholo as a skelly`
`06:20.26`	`FelixTeCat`	`When did they change that`
`06:20.29`	`Xuerian`	`0/46/5?`
`06:20.47`	`kergoth`	`mjc: see kaine posted another reply on your thread? looking good`
`06:20.49`	`Xuerian`	`I think.... Anyway, they're changing that in tbc I think`
`06:20.56`	`mjc`	`Xuerian: I wish, gotta raid resto, kergoth's guild is scared about druids tanking apparently`
`06:20.59`	`mjc`	`kergoth: hehe`
`06:21.18`	`kergoth`	`we just have warriors coming out the wazoo`
`06:21.20`	`Xuerian`	`Because whiny pvp bitches can't spend half a second seeing if a druid has a rage bar, is casting, or is running fast`
`06:21.20`	`haarm`	`mjc, I've cleared scholo as just a group of 2 priests, you should try it with 2 druids, should be totally possible`
`06:21.40`	`mjc`	`haarm: with what kind of gear`
`06:22.05`	`kergoth`	`this securestate stuff is nifty, pretty easy to get one's head around, just a matter of remembering all the various attributes available`
`06:22.06`	`Xuerian`	`mjc: Shame =(`
`06:22.08`	`mjc`	`kergoth: they should dps`
`06:22.09`	`kergoth`	`need to print a fucking quick reference`
`06:23.06`	`mjc`	`kergoth: hehe yeah he wanted me to go to BWL`
`06:23.23`	`mjc`	`too bad the transfer wasn't done, plus I think I need another 5man or two to get the hang of healing again :P`
`06:23.46`	`kergoth`	`it was sad man, we pwned firemaw and ebonroc and wiped multiple times on flamegor`
`06:23.51`	`kergoth`	`flamegor for gods sake`
`06:23.53`	`mjc`	`haha`
`06:24.01`	`haarm`	`mjc, when I did it, one in MC gear, one in BWL gear`
`06:24.01`	`kergoth`	`methinks people were sleepy`
`06:24.02`	`Tem`	`flamebor?`
`06:24.38`	`mjc`	`haarm: problem is feral gear is lopsided`
`06:24.40`	`mjc`	`;(`
`06:24.57`	`haarm`	`lopsided?`
`06:25.31`	`mjc`	`haarm: ok, wrong word choice`
`06:25.34`	`haarm`	`it makes you walk hunched over? :P`
`06:25.39`	`Xuerian`	`Feral gear is a pain.`
`06:25.41`	`mjc`	`no being a tauren does that`
`06:25.48`	`Xuerian`	`I'm full epics in restro gear....`
`06:25.50`	`mjc`	`feral gear is retardedly difficult to get.`
`06:25.50`	`Xuerian`	`Blues and greens in feral`
`06:25.55`	`haarm`	`you mean like spelldamage gear with no spirit / mp5? :P`
`06:26.02`	`Tekkub`	`s/lopsided/mismatched/ ?`
`06:26.08`	`mjc`	`Tekkub: yeah, ther.e`
`06:26.13`	`haarm`	`rrandom`
`06:26.18`	`Xuerian`	`Yeeep that works`
`06:26.53`	`kergoth`	`is there a tbc poison applier yet? doesnt look like the tbc branch of oapplication is functional`
`06:26.53`	`Tekkub`	`s/s/lopsided/mismatched//s/lopsided/shit// ??`
`06:27.08`	`kergoth`	`was thinking about doing a "main hand" "off hand" applier menu using the state stuff for practice`
`06:27.12`	`haarm`	`your replaces are getting lopsided :p`
`06:27.24`	`Tekkub`	`s/fuck you/`
`06:27.29`	`haarm`	`<3`
`06:27.50`	`Xuerian`	`Yeaaah shit works too`
`06:28.06`	`mjc`	`hahaha`
`06:28.14`	`Xuerian`	`"Maybe I can get that.... no... there's at least six warriors in the group.... Maybe that... No... nine rogues....."`
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`06:28.19`	`Xuerian`	`"Oh yeah, and 40 hunters..."`
`06:28.20`	`kergoth`	`seroiusly, i think i'm gonna make a quick reference card for the attributes of the secure state frames :\`
`06:28.56`	`haarm`	`I really didn't have a proper look at them yet kergoth, but the info I skimmed I didn't like`
`06:29.22`	`mjc`	`Xuerian: after some of the stuff I've pulled off on a druid w/ some HoTs it makes me wonder why warriors bother to tank at all`
`06:29.26`	`kergoth`	`haha, awesome, there's a track on the new deftones album called "u,u,d,d,l,r,l,r,a,b,select,start"`
`06:29.43`	`haarm`	`I saw something like.. setting unit = "raid4".. was there a way to set it to a player name?`
`06:29.51`	`Xuerian`	`mjc: 'Cause they're shiny.`
`06:30.08`	`mjc`	`Xuerian: eeeeew`
`06:30.08`	`haarm`	`what happens when people die and you switch players between groups`
`06:30.10`	`Xuerian`	`Shiny bastards.`
`06:30.39`	`kergoth`	`haarm: good question, would probably have to adjust the attributes when that happens`
`06:31.18`	`mjc`	`kergoth: if they like me, I'll want to be MT or primary OT during TBC :)`
`06:31.29`	`haarm`	`can you do that in combat kergoth?`
`06:31.42`	`kergoth`	`"The album features a song titled "U,U,D,D,L,R,L,R,A,B,SELECT,START", a possible reference to the Konami code, which is normally represented as (U,U,D,D,L,R,L,R,B,A,Start). This code is featured in many games published by Konami, as well as several other video game publishers. Chino said it was a misprint, & it should be b,a,select,start. the title code does however work for "TMNT 3: the manhattan project" for the NES, a rare instance where th`
`06:31.42`	`kergoth`	`e konami game switches the b,a to a,b in the code"`
`06:31.59`	`mjc`	`kergoth: used to tank garr and all adds naked w/ my other guild :)`
`06:32.06`	`kergoth`	`fun`
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`06:32.25`	`mjc`	`kergoth: 3 minutes of HoTs and spam flash heals ftw :D`
`06:32.44`	`selece`	`oh wow, didn't expect that there'd be THIS many people in here @_@`
`06:32.53`	`kergoth`	`quick, hide`
`06:32.54`	`mjc`	`shrug`
`06:33.06`	`haarm`	`we're all bots`
`06:33.08`	`kergoth`	`haarm: good point :\`
`06:33.12`	`kergoth`	`about combat, not bots`
`06:33.15`	`haarm`	`:D`
`06:33.21`	`kergoth`	`though people have claimed i was a shell script`
`06:33.30`	`FelixTeCat`	`O.o`
`06:33.32`	`kergoth`	`i disagree though, if anything its python or ruby`
`06:33.34`	`kergoth`	`shell is weak`
`06:33.36`	`selece`	`impressive script :/`
`06:33.38`	`FelixTeCat`	`<---eggdrop`
`06:33.39`	`mjc`	`:P`
`06:33.43`	`Xuerian`	`selece o.0`
`06:33.50`	`haarm`	`hmm, maybe luash ? :D`
`06:33.50`	`selece`	`mew?`
`06:34.08`	`mjc`	`luash? eew.`
`06:34.12`	`Xuerian`	`<-- bot.`
`06:34.17`	`mjc`	`lua is useful in some circumstances.`
`06:34.20`	`mjc`	`not that one.`
`06:34.23`	`Xuerian`	`^ bot.`
`06:34.23`	`haarm`	`mjc, i'm sure it exists somewhere`
`06:34.30`	`Industrial`	`walking my BE to ORG`
`06:34.30`	`haarm`	`not even looked`
`06:34.30`	`Xuerian`	`^ also bot.`
`06:34.31`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`06:34.34`	`Xuerian`	`^bot too.`
`06:34.41`	`mjc`	`?`
`06:34.43`	`kergoth`	`i wouldnt mind a lua shell, but its libraries really arent extensive enough`
`06:34.47`	`Xuerian`	`Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.`
`06:34.52`	`kergoth`	`i remember having to fix a box via init=/usr/bin/perl once`
`06:34.55`	`Xuerian`	`ANYHOO what brings you around <.<`
`06:35.01`	`mjc`	`kergoth: pysh'd be neat`
`06:35.17`	`selece`	`i have a really basic-ish question, and i'm probably not understanding something totally basic to the wow api and how it works >_<, if someone has a second`
`06:35.31`	`mjc`	`just ask`
`06:35.31`	`kergoth`	`ask away`
`06:35.33`	`Xuerian`	`Won't know if we have the answer till you ask.`
`06:35.34`	`haarm`	`shoot`
`06:35.59`	`Xuerian`	`oh lord, haarm, while you're shooting things, kill my dog, it just ripped one so rip I thought it crapped in my nose`
`06:36.08`	`mjc`	`haha`
`06:36.24`	`haarm`	`wtf?`
`06:36.25`	`mjc`	`http://325i.org/fart.png`
`06:36.28`	`Xuerian`	`NUU`
`06:36.32`	`mjc`	`doh`
`06:36.38`	`mjc`	`http://325i.org/fart.jpg`
`06:36.39`	`haarm`	`oh right, I had to read that like 3x`
`06:36.48`	`Xuerian`	`sorry, sleepy`
`06:36.49`	`Xuerian`	`:p`
`06:37.20`	`haarm`	`yea I started with the literal meaning of "rip" and worked from there`
`06:37.41`	`Xuerian`	`well, I should've s/so rip/so ripe/'d`
`06:38.04`	`haarm`	`would have given me more of a clue :P`
`06:38.06`	`selece`	`alrighty! anywho, what i'd like to do is to have a right-click action associated with the blizz AH browse buttons (the individual search results you get, 1-8) - how would i go about doing this? can i do it through my own LUA script by getting the button name in the heirarchy and using RegisterForClicks, or do i have to dig into the blizz AH provided UI and modify that to my liking, and then (somehow) having it override the default AH behaviour? *confuzzle`
`06:38.07`	`Xuerian`	`haha, mjc`
`06:38.25`	`Xuerian`	`That's like that elephant that sat on a zookeeper's head, and said head went up said ass`
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`06:38.49`	`mjc`	`hahah`
`06:39.24`	`haarm`	`selece: If I understand it correctly, I think you'd just hook the OnClick handler for those "panels"`
`06:39.30`	`selece`	`yes! :3`
`06:39.36`	`Xuerian`	`selece: Just hook the onclick like haarm says.`
`06:40.22`	`haarm`	`then you can check if the button used was right or left, and conditionally pass control to the original OnClick or perform your own actions... or both`
`06:41.05`	`Xuerian`	`does hookscript allow for orig calls?`
`06:41.05`	`selece`	`< slightly lost as to how to go about doing that >_<, elaborate, if you could please?`
`06:41.10`	`Xuerian`	`If so that should be used... <.<`
`06:41.29`	`Xuerian`	`selece: Are you using Ace2 in this or not?`
`06:41.34`	`selece`	`Ace2, yes.`
`06:41.34`	`haarm`	`well selece, since you're in the wowace channel, I'll guess you'll want to use AceHook :D`
`06:41.55`	`selece`	`<3 the framework BTW, saves so much headache and time. @_@`
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`06:42.07`	`Xuerian`	`:P. Do you have the framexml yet?`
`06:42.23`	`selece`	`I haven't actually started building that portion yet.`
`06:42.27`	`Xuerian`	`~framexml`
`06:42.36`	`purl`	`get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip`
`06:42.36`	`Xuerian`	`You need it to figure out what to hook.`
`06:43.08`	`Xuerian`	`framexml is the blizzard default ui`
`06:43.47`	`haarm`	`so selece, where you have AddonName = AceLibrary(blah):new(blah, blah, blah), one of those blahs needs to be "AceHook-2.0", and then underneath you'll need AddonName:SetModuleMixins('AceEvent-2.0', 'AceHook-2.0')`
`06:44.14`	`Xuerian`	`Oh, and mjc, <3 the XLM pimpage.`
`06:44.21`	`mjc`	`hehe`
`06:44.39`	`haarm`	`and then all you need, is the name of the function you want to hook`
`06:44.47`	`selece`	`Oh, that I have. I have a small AH mod that intercepts the PlaceBid() function and checks the seller against a blacklist from the user.`
`06:45.18`	`Xuerian`	`Then all you have to do is hook the OnClick function for whatever buttons you wanna use. The functions will be in framexml :)`
`06:45.48`	`haarm`	`ok, so somewhere in your init ... self:Hook("whatever_the_ah_onclick_thing_is")`
`06:45.57`	`Xuerian`	`*enable`
`06:46.04`	`Xuerian`	`Well`
`06:46.08`	`Xuerian`	`if using db. >.>`
`06:46.10`	`selece`	`Hm, lemme pull up the Blizz code.`
`06:46.17`	`haarm`	`oops, self:Hook("whatever_the_ah_onclick_thing_is", "your_function")`
`06:47.30`	`Xuerian`	`self:Hook("Frame_OnClick", "OnFrameClick", zomgtrueoverridesecurehookwarning) or just self:Hook("Frame_OnClick", true)`
`06:47.48`	`selece`	`XD`
`06:47.51`	`mjc`	`heh`
`06:47.51`	`haarm`	`Xuerian, depends if it's TBC :P`
`06:48.02`	`Xuerian`	`haarm: Not really`
`06:48.09`	`Xuerian`	`doesn't do anything in 1.12, does something in tbc`
`06:48.28`	`selece`	`it appears that the function in the blizz LUA would be BrowseButton_OnClick()`
`06:48.34`	`Xuerian`	`Then again, PlaceBid sounds like it's not gonna work in tbc`
`06:48.40`	`Xuerian`	`seeing as it's secure (i think)`
`06:48.51`	`selece`	`That I was also thinking about, but that's for another day. >_<`
`06:49.14`	`Xuerian`	`;P`
`06:49.53`	`haarm`	`hmm, something I havn't tried...`
`06:50.12`	`haarm`	`changing the OnClick of a secure element using SetScript`
`06:50.31`	`Xuerian`	`oh i love my free clients. "HI SKYLAR, IS THIS THE CORRECT ADDRESS? IF IT IS PLEASE EMAIL ME BACK. I AM NOT SENDING INFO ON MY WEBSITE UNTIL I KNOW IF THIS IS A CORRECT ADDRESS."`
`06:50.33`	`haarm`	`guessing they already thought of that, but did anyone try?`
`06:50.37`	`Xuerian`	`<-- skylar.`
`06:51.00`	`Xuerian`	`Doesn't matter`
`06:51.07`	`Xuerian`	`Addon wouldn't be able to call placebid`
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`06:51.32`	`Xuerian`	`Getting called with a function isn't a problem, modifying or calling that function in any way is`
`06:51.44`	`haarm`	`why not? whatever you replace it with would still be classed as "human interaction" when the OnClick was fired?`
`06:52.09`	`Xuerian`	`it'd be classed as "non blizzard ZOMGTAINTBAD addon touched event"`
`06:52.45`	`haarm`	`didn't think PlaceBid required non-tainted code`
`06:52.45`	`Xuerian`	`Well, that's my hypothethis anyway. welcome to prove me wrong, it'd be a good thing`
`06:53.02`	`Xuerian`	`Thought they did to avoid mods like bottomfeeder`
`06:53.09`	`Xuerian`	`No trading or bidding by addons`
`06:53.17`	`selece`	`Hm, I feel stupid, but if the Blizzard OnClick function for the frame I want to tag is "BrowseButton_OnClick", then I should be able to hook it using self:Hook("BrowseButton_OnClick", true), correct?`
`06:53.21`	`haarm`	`from what I read, the only thing they did to it was make it require a hardware trigger`
`06:53.44`	`Xuerian`	`selece: Yes, then your function would be MyMod:BrowseButton_OnClick(button)`
`06:53.56`	`Xuerian`	`haarm: Well then I'm likely wrong o.0`
`06:54.07`	`haarm`	`well I could be wrong`
`06:54.10`	`haarm`	`:)`
`06:54.16`	`Xuerian`	`I'll go with wrong tonight. sleepy :p`
`06:54.28`	`selece`	`That would be the code I have ... but getting a "Attempt to hook a non-existant function..." on /rl :(`
`06:55.05`	`Xuerian`	`ehm`
`06:55.14`	`Xuerian`	`That's because the auctionhouse is lod`
`06:55.29`	`Xuerian`	`you need to loadwith your addon to load with the auctionhouse.... ...... ... i think`
`06:56.17`	`selece`	`That makes sense (I'm actually normally not this slow, but it's been a really long week >_<).`
`06:56.33`	`haarm`	`## LoadWith: someAddOn, someOtherAddOn`
`06:56.38`	`haarm`	`in the toc`
`06:56.40`	`Xuerian`	`yeah that <.<`
`06:56.51`	`Xuerian`	`Needs loadondemand 1 too, doesn't it?`
`06:57.03`	`haarm`	`yar`
`06:57.28`	`haarm`	`## LoadOnDemand: 1 ## LoadWith: Blizzard_AuctionUI`
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`06:58.41`	`selece`	`While I wait for WoW to reload itself ... has anyone else found the PTR unbearably laggy? :/`
`06:59.04`	`Gngsk`	`anyone know which items are being flagged as mining picks in the patch?`
`06:59.09`	`haarm`	`can't try it selece`
`06:59.17`	`MentalPower`	`I've been busy coding in the IF AH, but I don't notice any lag`
`06:59.17`	`haarm`	`they wont let beta testers on the ptrs`
`06:59.41`	`selece`	`Somehow since you have a beta key, I find it hard to feel really sorry for you. ;)`
`07:00.00`	`haarm`	`Gngsk, I thought it'd be something like a white Gnoll weapon or something :P`
`07:00.33`	`selece`	`Oh, big thanks to everyone who gave me a hand with my extreme slowness tonight. Works like a charm now. :)`
`07:01.08`	`Xuerian`	`stop beating yourself up...`
`07:01.11`	`haarm`	`selece, well until the beta realms got patched today, the PTRs had different interface code running, and I couldn't check it out`
`07:01.14`	`Xuerian`	`It's the wowace channel`
`07:01.16`	`Xuerian`	`beat someone else up`
`07:01.21`	`Xuerian`	`~whalenutshot Gngsk`
`07:01.22`	`purl`	`ACTION smashes Gngsk in the nuts with a huge, yet swift whale named Ricardo`
`07:01.26`	`Xuerian`	`scoooreee`
`07:01.38`	`haarm`	`Ricardo eh :)`
`07:02.08`	`Gngsk`	`:(`
`07:02.18`	`Xuerian`	`Purl did it, not me =(`
`07:02.43`	`selece`	`XD`
`07:02.45`	`selece`	`much <3`
`07:03.00`	`haarm`	`Gngsk, if I was searching for new mining picks, I'd probably start here: http://wow.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=pick`
`07:03.43`	`haarm`	`obviously ignoring the "freshly picked flowers", as I don't think they'd be much use for mining after a couple of whacks`
`07:04.39`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`07:04.44`	`Xuerian`	`Haha, using FF3: "Please update your browser. Web browsers compatable with crapstead: ie6+, ff1+".`
`07:06.10`	`Xuerian`	`Yeah anyhow I'm going to bed now. 'night all :P`
`07:06.34`	`haarm`	`ff3?`
`07:06.41`	`haarm`	`night Xuerian\|Sleep`
`07:07.17`	`Xuerian\|Sleep`	`http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/fx-win32-tbox-trunk/ extensions.checkCompatibility = false`
`07:07.18`	`Xuerian\|Sleep`	`enjoy`
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`07:08.45`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`07:08.49`	`Kyahx`	`Hey ckknight`
`07:09.00`	`haarm`	`hey!`
`07:10.24`	`Kyahx`	`dammit, does anyone have the 6108 -> 6144 enUS patch they could mirror somewhere?`
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`07:11.40`	`selece`	`Wow, that's a sign I should sleep soon - in relogging, I mistyped my password 5 times. :/`
`07:12.49`	`ckknight`	`hehe, selece`
`07:12.58`	`haarm`	`Kyahx, sorry, enGB only here`
`07:13.10`	`Kyahx`	`>.<`
`07:13.11`	`haarm`	`for some reason I kept an archive of all the patches from F&F alpha to current`
`07:13.32`	`Kyahx`	`My schools has a terrible internet, and the blizz downloader dosent work =/`
`07:13.45`	`Kyahx`	`so I have to hunt down an http mirror >.<`
`07:13.54`	`haarm`	`I think once when I was drunk I wanted to upload every interface from the start to a private SVN so I could view all the diffs between versions`
`07:14.23`	`haarm`	`I never did it, but I keep saving the patches anyway`
`07:15.52`	`haarm`	`actually, I'd like to hear from anyone who has the enGB patches between 1.1.2 and 1.2.0, they're the only incremental patches I'm missing`
`07:16.21`	`ckknight`	`Kyahx, direct download.`
`07:16.35`	`Kyahx`	`that dosent work either`
`07:16.37`	`Kyahx`	`=/`
`07:16.55`	`Kyahx`	`been going for an hour and 0kb downloaded`
`07:19.27`	`selece`	`So, don't I feel silly. After coming here and asking all that neat stuff, I find out that Dewdrop automatically hooks the rightclick for me. ./facepalm`
`07:20.20`	`ckknight`	`selece, hehe.`
`07:20.29`	`ckknight`	`selece, use dontHook if you wanna turn that off.`
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`07:22.32`	`selece`	`Oh, it's awesome and great. It's just that I came here about a half hour ago asking how to hook a script to one of the Blizzard frames so that it'd run on right click (wanted to build a menu, ironically using Dewdrop).`
`07:22.53`	`selece`	`After hacking around a bit and getting lots of advice, got it to work. Hooked in Dewdrop. Found out it hooks the rightclick by itself.`
`07:22.55`	`selece`	`>.<`
`07:23.03`	`selece`	`Reading ahead for the win? Ooops. >_<`
`07:23.29`	`Kodewulf_`	`does anyone know of a guide/tutorial that explains how frame anchors work? I'm using Dewdrop, and point and relativepoint confuses the hell out of me... :)`
`07:25.40`	`ckknight`	`point is Dewdrop's point (TOPRIGHT, for example)`
`07:25.54`	`ckknight`	`relativePoint is the point you're attaching it to (BOTTOMRIGHT, for example)`
`07:25.59`	`ckknight`	`so you'll get something like this:`
`07:26.27`	`ckknight`	`\|_my_frame_\|`
`07:26.40`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:26.42`	`ckknight`	`sorta`
`07:27.14`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, any thoughts on having OnClick overrides and such for notes?`
`07:27.27`	`Kodewulf_`	`cool... that helps... now i just get the right combination to put it where i want it... :)`
`07:27.32`	`Kodewulf_`	`thx`
`07:28.30`	`ckknight`	`right, Kodewulf_`
`07:32.11`	`kergoth`	`hmm not sure offhand. for loot, itd be nice to pop up a frame floating over the top of the map with the loot information upon clicking on a point with a certain key combination, but you'd want to make the constraints tight, cant just give some addon complete control over pin click behavior`
`07:36.53`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`is there something that will allow me to place mass auctions up? like i want to clean house on enchanting mats cause i need gold`
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`07:39.57`	`kebinusan`	`auctioneer will`
`07:40.47`	`MentalPower`	`huh?`
`07:40.49`	`MentalPower`	`what about auctioneer?`
`07:41.01`	`JameyC`	`igor's mass auction will do what you want http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4040`
`07:41.59`	`kebinusan`	`MentalPower: allow you to place up mass auctions and such`
`07:42.13`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, I was thinking of allowing the map to change the tooltip (basically an OnEnter event), change the Dewdrop to however they want, and also allow an OnClick`
`07:51.53`	`ckknight`	`should I play WoW or code...`
`07:52.07`	`ckknight`	`I think the former for a little while`
`07:57.49`	`haarm`	`ckknight, you know the saying... all work and no play...`
`07:58.10`	`ckknight`	`no beer and no TV make Homer something something...`
`07:58.25`	`haarm`	`:P`
`07:58.32`	`Gngsk`	`go crazy?`
`07:58.37`	`ckknight`	`don't mind if I do!`
`07:59.03`	`haarm`	`classics :)`
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`08:09.22`	`ckknight`	`ugh, agUF is borked`
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`08:12.15`	`gxam`	`easy fix`
`08:12.24`	`gxam`	`they added to returns to unitbuff and unitdebuff`
`08:12.46`	`gxam`	`they return spell, rank`
`08:12.50`	`gxam`	`before all the other stuff`
`08:12.58`	`mjc`	`blah.`
`08:13.45`	`ckknight`	`what's the problem?`
`08:13.52`	`haarm`	`ckk they changed UnitBuff / Debuff`
`08:14.00`	`mjc`	`ckknight: just bonking`
`08:14.06`	`mjc`	`no problem :)`
`08:14.12`	`haarm`	`replace instances of x, y = UnitBuff / Debuff .... with _, _, x, y = UnitBuff / Debuff`
`08:14.17`	`ckknight`	`haarm, I knew that, just wondering about the bonking`
`08:14.30`	`ckknight`	`someone do that and commit.`
`08:14.38`	`haarm`	`no svn access`
`08:14.46`	`mjc`	`need my password reset still :p`
`08:15.51`	`haarm`	`be a hero ck :D`
`08:19.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`FUCKING PTR`
`08:19.15`	`Arrowmaster`	`somebody make it stop crashing`
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`08:21.06`	`MoonWolf`	`I rather have the ptr crash then the regular realms.`
`08:24.57`	`selece`	`Hm, having a problem with Dewdrop that I don't quite understand, if someone has a quick moment?`
`08:24.58`	`nymbia`	`just committed a fix for aguf, but didnt test it since i'm lazy. test please :)`
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`08:25.47`	`ckknight`	`selece, just state your issue.`
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`08:28.17`	`selece`	`Okay. I've got an AceOptions table for my /commands and that's peachy. If I try to use it with Dewdrop just to see the menu in action, that's peachy too. If I make a new AceOptions table with a few different commands, all "executes" if that matters, which do have handlers for the func="" lines, and I try dewdrop:Register(blahframe, "children", the_new_table), Dewdrop gives me a "attempt to index local handler (a nil value)" when trying to trigger the men`
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`08:37.16`	`nymbia`	`andg, ping`
`08:37.31`	`andg`	`I'm at work`
`08:37.38`	`nymbia`	`ok`
`08:38.50`	`nymbia`	`today's beta patch broke calls to UnitBuff and UnitDebuff.. i committed a fix, but i made it dual-compatible with the PTRs.. which makes for some extra code that'll be unnecessary once they're up to day`
`08:39.07`	`nymbia`	`s/day/date/`
`08:41.04`	`mjc`	`owned`
`08:42.08`	`nymbia`	`mjc: ?`
`08:42.17`	`mjc`	`bad regexp`
`08:44.42`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`so which mods broke, because Im having issues logging in`
`08:44.54`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`guess aguf?`
`08:45.30`	`nymbia`	`[FH]Birdemani: try deleting all the blizzard LoD addons, they were causing issues for some people`
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`08:50.17`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`nope, still stalling on blue bar`
`08:50.26`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`this is going to be a pain to figure out what mod it is`
`08:51.14`	`nymbia`	`well there's a fixed version of aguf up`
`08:51.21`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`i just updated`
`08:51.37`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`gets about 25 percent into the bar and hangs`
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`08:52.59`	`nymbia`	`huh. well, i'd say try disabling everything and work back up from there.. a friend of mind had to reinstall the whole client to get it working after this patch =\`
`08:53.20`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`it works if i turn everyhting off`
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`09:01.18`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`well, its not aguf it looks like`
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`09:03.21`	`Melisandre`	`hi`
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`09:05.40`	`mjc`	`kergoth: around ?`
`09:06.29`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`found it`
`09:06.39`	`kergoth`	`somewhat, trying to get the damn scales/offsets right converting metamap's instance notes over to cartographer, and i suck at that kind of thing`
`09:06.39`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`looks like the hang up is caused by EBB on beta`
`09:06.42`	`kergoth`	`whats up?`
`09:06.44`	`kergoth`	`heading to bed shortly`
`09:07.10`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`let me try removing the vars from ebb and loading it`
`09:08.43`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`yea, its EBB :/`
`09:09.09`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`but I cant get it to generate an error, it just causes the beta client to hang on blue bar`
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`09:13.35`	`kergoth`	`[FH]Birdemani: yep, someone else mentioned it earlier, and i saw it earlier too. annoying`
`09:15.19`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`nymbia: is there a way to show raid group number in the player frame with aguf on either live or test`
`09:16.08`	`Kalamadi`	`Bleh. Test server stalls on "retrieving character list"`
`09:16.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`same`
`09:17.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`it works now`
`09:19.32`	`Kalamadi`	`Can't log into the server, though`
`09:20.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`i got in then it crashed`
`09:20.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`found out it rolled back and i have to put all my crap back into my bank again`
`09:20.39`	`[Ammo]`	`morning`
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`09:21.47`	`nymbia`	`[FH]Birdemani: i think so, can't recall off the top of my head`
`09:23.03`	`Kalamadi`	`Anyone know what the status of FB2 is?`
`09:23.31`	`Greywind`	`pooh they got rid of using items in druid forms :(`
`09:23.38`	`Greywind`	`i liked that change damnit`
`09:23.53`	`Greywind`	`<^> blizz :(`
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`09:27.50`	`Kalamadi`	`sigh If all goes well, I'm starting classes in college on Monday morning @ 8 AM. However, I keep staying up later and later. I'm on the opposite schedule that I need to be =(`
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`09:38.03`	`[Ammo]`	`oh noes vhaarr escaped teh irc again`
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`09:39.34`	`yacoob`	`vhaarr has just left the building!`
`09:39.42`	`vhaarr`	`sup`
`09:39.42`	`yacoob`	`wait, he just entered it! WooT!`
`09:39.49`	`nymbia`	`good timing`
`09:41.50`	`vhaarr`	`Soo .. anything going on, or can I turn my attention to other matters than watching the IRC window? :P`
`09:42.11`	`Fritti`	`[Ammo]! he's back!`
`09:42.14`	`vhaarr`	`:(`
`09:42.22`	`Fritti`	`;-)`
`09:44.49`	`[Ammo]`	`oh noes`
`09:44.49`	`kergoth`	`http://hawkins.kergoth.com:1980/wow_069.jpg`
`09:47.23`	`nymbia`	`kergoth: nice :D`
`09:48.08`	`nymbia`	`what are some of those ones out in the water?`
`09:48.23`	`JameyC`	`i love cartographer more with each passing day ^^`
`09:48.58`	`yacoob`	`nymbia, swimming, chatting, socializing...`
`09:49.23`	`kergoth`	`nymbia: thats the muddy churning waters, the schools of fish you need to summon gahz'rilla`
`09:49.46`	`kergoth`	`just did a converter from metamap's instance notes to cartographer's`
`09:49.48`	`nymbia`	`there's one missing then ;)`
`09:50.12`	`kergoth`	`by all means contribute it, i'll throw this on the svn in the morning, heading to bed now`
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`09:50.27`	`nymbia`	`great, thanks for all the hard work :)`
`09:50.51`	`kergoth`	`i hate spending hours on something as trivial as getting the x/y offsets & scales correct on conversion of coordinates :P`
`09:55.20`	`mjc`	kergoth`zzz: hey
`09:55.27`	`mjc`	`er nm.`
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`10:07.02`	`Sole_`	`the only way to find the icon paths of the new BC spells/talents is by looking in the mpq and matching them up, right?`
`10:10.01`	`nymbia`	`i think so..`
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`10:21.07`	`phyber`	`http://fjolletobak.com/detail.php?type=2&content=17759`
`10:22.22`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`did itemrack break on test as well?`
`10:23.10`	`vhaarr`	`"as well", did CG break?`
`10:23.51`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`didnt know cg was working`
`10:24.08`	`Sun\Nether`	`do you know of an ace2 addon that is kinda like archaeologist ?`
`10:24.29`	`Sun\Nether`	`hide Health, Mana value, show % life on target life value etc`
`10:26.06`	`Sole_`	`phyber: lol that guy is dumb, why wouldnt you get any sleep before going on a general knowledge show?`
`10:26.08`	`yacoob`	`War! Never been so much fun!`
`10:28.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`grr test server broke again`
`10:28.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`and i just got done specing`
`10:28.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`i was going to be the only warlock on the test server that didnt have the felguard`
`10:29.28`	`Sole_`	`lol`
`10:30.04`	`Sole_`	`I decided to spec mutilate today on beta and I was surprised at how decent it was`
`10:30.49`	`phyber`	`Arrowmaster: incorrect! I'm destruction spec already ;)`
`10:31.04`	`phyber`	`if you were going to Tempest Keep EU, that is.`
`10:31.07`	`phyber`	`:)`
`10:31.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`i said test server not beta server`
`10:31.34`	`phyber`	`oh. right. well. incorrect!`
`10:31.41`	`Sole_`	`same spells/talents :P`
`10:31.50`	`phyber`	`morning :)`
`10:31.57`	`Arrowmaster`	`even this scrub warlock named 'Fearmydots' wearing shitty felheart speced felguard`
`10:32.34`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`so to get CG working on beta, just get the latest from svn and change the toc?`
`10:32.58`	`Sole_`	`OMG I R TEH BIG DENOM DAT HUS TEH ARKNITE REPER!`
`10:33.07`	`Sole_`	`SO SPEC 4 ME`
`10:33.14`	`Sole_`	`guess what I am`
`10:33.32`	`phyber`	`I'll take Felguard for 50.`
`10:33.51`	`Sole_`	`well it looks like a pretty decent pet tbh :)`
`10:34.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm damn, i didnt think darkpact would actually give more mana than 2/2 imp lifetap`
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`10:44.16`	`Greywind`	`anybody getting a hard lock with the new patch for TBC? tis slow going narrowing down to the addon which is causing it is giving me a headache :P`
`10:44.41`	`Neebler`	`http://knitemare.org/cats/`
`10:44.52`	`mjc`	`Greywind: EBB`
`10:46.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`hahaha orc on a raptor cant get into the UC elevators now`
`10:46.44`	`mjc`	`Neebler: TL;DR ?`
`10:47.16`	`mjc`	`oh!`
`10:47.21`	`mjc`	`haha`
`10:48.05`	`Sole_`	`Grewind: I am too :)`
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`10:54.53`	`Melisandre`	`bye :)`
`10:55.08`	`mjc`	`Neebler: http://knitemare.org/cats/inuraccountkd2.jpg :P`
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`11:01.28`	`andg`	`a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is crying`
`11:03.33`	`mjc`	`haha`
`11:07.43`	`JameyC`	`is there a builtin lua function for merging tables and eliminating duplicate entries, or does one do this by hand?`
`11:14.56`	`nymbia`	`JameyC: generally by hand.`
`11:15.06`	`JameyC`	`k, thanks`
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`11:15.56`	`JameyC`	`now i see why there's not like a merged friendsfu/guildfu without duplicate names, that could be nasty overhead`
`11:16.09`	`AKX`	`Not really`
`11:16.13`	`AKX`	`You can use a dictionary`
`11:16.17`	`AKX`	`... sorry, pythontalk`
`11:16.19`	`AKX`	`I mean`
`11:16.26`	`AKX`	`seenPeople={} (or compost)`
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`11:16.31`	`AKX`	`seenPeople[name]=true`
`11:16.44`	`AKX`	`if not seenPeople[name] then seenPeople[name]=true; do_stuff; end`
`11:17.08`	`JameyC`	`hmm... thanks`
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`11:18.46`	`Greywind`	`found out what addon was crashing me, was Elkbuffbar`
`11:19.00`	`JameyC`	`dictionary thing was my initial thought, just didn't think of doing it in that straightforward of a way. used to perl, "If I had a hash..." ;)`
`11:19.27`	`Greywind`	`dont know why it was crashing me cause it hard locked and nothing was gettting saved in buggrabber`
`11:20.35`	`AKX`	`You have a hash (dict? I'm unfamiliar with perl), you have a set, you have a list... tables are too versatile ;)`
`11:20.56`	`nymbia`	`JameyC: oh, just values with the same index.. for some reason i thought you were talking about identical values with not necessarily the same index.`
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`11:21.22`	`JameyC`	`yeah in theory the key/value pairs should be the same`
`11:21.29`	`Greywind`	`is Manufac working in TBC now? I tryed to get it working the other day but it kept getting blocked`
`11:21.55`	`nymbia`	`Greywind: yup, the newest build contains the bugfixes that it needed to run :)`
`11:22.10`	`Greywind`	`and ag_UF is still being blocked when using it's right click menu`
`11:22.14`	`Greywind`	`:(`
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`11:22.23`	`Greywind`	`nymbia: cool ill try it out`
`11:22.26`	`JameyC`	`was just trying to merge ufriends/uguild for a friend who wanted an all in one list. don't like the idea myself, but was bored and didn't wanna work on my other addon.`
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`11:26.59`	`Neebler`	`http://i15.tinypic.com/2wgi04i.jpg`
`11:27.01`	`Neebler`	`:O`
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`11:29.58`	`Greywind`	`Neebler: what exactly am i looking at?`
`11:30.31`	`Greywind`	`nymbia: manufac is working good in TBC, even works with jewelcrafting although its unsorted :P`
`11:30.42`	`Greywind`	`long ass list hehe`
`11:31.35`	`nymbia`	`Greywind: great! i should start getting some defaults together for that stuff.. what would you suggest for categories?`
`11:33.06`	`Greywind`	`umm I'm still quite low level in jewelcrafting, ill get back to ya hehe`
`11:33.14`	`nymbia`	`ok :)`
`11:36.14`	`Neebler`	`damn the PTR is a huge mess. I zoned into scholomance an hour ago and got stuck at a loading screen for about 10 minutes. So now I log in an hour later and i'm falling through the world`
`11:36.18`	`Neebler`	`unable to hearth or die`
`11:36.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`i cant login`
`11:36.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`server just crashed`
`11:36.38`	`Greywind`	`anyone know why ag_uf isnt working with the right click options for pets? it gets blocked`
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`11:36.55`	`Greywind`	`only thing i can do is rename my pet`
`11:37.36`	`Greywind`	`hmm even when i disable ag_uf Ace2 is hooking something so its still not working :(`
`11:37.49`	`Greywind`	`even with the default frames :(`
`11:40.36`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm so using SetBindingItem() on the PTR is getting saved when i logout but SetBindingSpell() isnt...`
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`11:41.57`	`nymbia`	`Arrowmaster: are you saving them?`
`11:42.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`....`
`11:42.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`i knew i was forgetting something`
`11:42.40`	`nymbia`	`(shameless plug: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SpellBinder )`
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`11:51.42`	`Mikma`	`is CIA-17 dead?`
`11:51.49`	`nymbia`	`seems that way`
`11:51.51`	`Mikma`	`or haven't there been any updates in like, 13h?`
`11:52.32`	`[Ammo]`	`I think me and vhaarr pushed around 25 updates in the last 2 hours :p`
`11:52.39`	`nymbia`	`rofl`
`11:52.43`	`Mikma`	`heh`
`11:52.49`	`vhaarr`	`^^`
`11:52.54`	`nymbia`	`i know i've done 5 or 6`
`11:53.11`	`Mikma`	`well, i've been playing with lego for like 2h now`
`11:53.19`	`Mikma`	`building stuff for my sisters son`
`11:53.28`	`Mikma`	`god damn i suck at it`
`11:53.39`	`Mikma`	`just try building a dragon from lego-blocks... grrrreat!!`
`11:53.50`	`abbat-w`	`:))))))))`
`11:53.51`	`abbat-w`	`lol`
`11:54.09`	`abbat-w`	`You build flying mount i hope? :)`
`11:54.23`	`Mikma`	`well ain't dragon flying mount huh?`
`11:54.35`	`Mikma`	`atleast my sisters son thinks that way, he put 3 doods on it's back`
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`11:56.08`	`abbat-w`	`heh`
`11:56.13`	`abbat-w`	`copy char to ptr`
`11:56.22`	`abbat-w`	`need to update addons ;(`
`12:00.51`	`yacoob`	`copy is working now?`
`12:00.59`	`abbat-w`	`yep`
`12:01.23`	`abbat-w`	`i copy at 14:38, now 15:02`
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`12:03.03`	`abbat-w`	`http://www.lim.com.au/wow/cooldowns.jpg`
`12:03.04`	`hydh`	`hi there`
`12:03.19`	`abbat-w`	`can someone tell what mod make this raid frames?`
`12:03.23`	`abbat-w`	`looks nice`
`12:03.41`	`[Ammo]`	`http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/bigwigs_warmup.jpg`
`12:03.45`	`[Ammo]`	`LV eat that :p`
`12:04.00`	`[Ammo]`	`that is without disembedding`
`12:04.33`	`[Ammo]`	`raidframes in that screenshot are AgUF`
`12:04.47`	`abbat-w`	`Thanks Ammo`
`12:05.38`	`phyber`	`Mikma: get Lego Technic.`
`12:05.56`	`phyber`	`I built a claw that can pick stuff up with that a few years ago. it's still in bubble wrap somewhere :p`
`12:06.18`	`abbat-w`	`hahah ;)`
`12:06.22`	`abbat-w`	`Blammo ;)`
`12:06.30`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah my imba hunter`
`12:07.14`	`phyber`	`Warmup -34KB! it actually gives you memory!`
`12:07.38`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`12:07.45`	`[Ammo]`	`cropping that screenshot a bit`
`12:08.15`	`phyber`	`is that number from the warmup that does a GC between each addon loading?`
`12:08.47`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`12:11.02`	`abbat-w`	`btw, are Visor planned to port to TBC?`
`12:13.13`	`Greywind`	`autoattack isnt working sighs`
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`13:22.03`	`JoshBorke`	`morning`
`13:22.13`	`usz`	`morning JB`
`13:26.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`grr PTR crashed again`
`13:26.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`and i almost had borelgore to wpl, he moves slower than hell`
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`13:40.49`	`Iceroth`	`is UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT fired when the spell is actually cast completely?`
`13:43.55`	`JoshBorke`	`Iceroth: UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT is when the server is notified you want to start sending the spell. it happens immediately when you CastSpell`
`13:44.28`	`Iceroth`	`what's the difference to UNIT_SPELLCAST_START then?`
`13:44.37`	`JameyC`	`lol i was about to ask the same thing`
`13:44.50`	`JoshBorke`	`UNIT_SPELLCAST_START is when the server responds saying that yes, you're actually casting it now`
`13:45.49`	`JameyC`	`is SENT called then even if you're in a situation in which you can't cast? (ie. mounted)`
`13:46.17`	`JoshBorke`	`not sure, i would think not because the client can locally check for that situation`
`13:46.24`	`JoshBorke`	`i'll have to do some testing tonight`
`13:46.32`	`Iceroth`	`so umh.. can you give me an example when i would want to use _sent instead of _start?`
`13:46.44`	`JoshBorke`	`Iceroth: if you want to pass around target information`
`13:47.01`	`JoshBorke`	`_SENT is the easiest way to obtain target for a spell`
`13:47.15`	`Iceroth`	`ah, right`
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`13:47.34`	`JoshBorke`	`_START only sends <unit>`
`13:47.35`	`Iceroth`	`thinking too narrow mindedly here it seems`
`13:48.27`	`Iceroth`	`so basically grab the info when _sent is fired, wait for the actual _start event and then do stuff`
`13:48.33`	`JoshBorke`	`yes`
`13:49.22`	`Iceroth`	`btw, is it possible to show only casts in that "V" thing instead of health bar and cast?`
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`13:56.16`	`Tornhoof`	`does anyone happen to know if the WoWAceupdate author quaiche joins this channel?`
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`13:57.19`	`Industrial`	`08:13 -!- PProvost [n=PProvost@pool-71-112-37-6.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"]`
`13:57.27`	`Industrial`	`Tornhoof: --^`
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`13:58.59`	`Tornhoof`	`thanks, gonna idle here then and wait for him`
`13:59.34`	`Industrial`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3076.new#new`
`13:59.35`	`Industrial`	`tee hee`
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`13:59.58`	`Industrial`	`Tornhoof: might be another day cause its 1500 here`
`14:00.08`	`Industrial`	`well half a day`
`14:00.09`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`14:00.11`	`Tornhoof`	`yeh i know`
`14:00.26`	`Tornhoof`	`no biggie though`
`14:00.47`	`Tornhoof`	`just modded his source to use [TBC] files if they exist for updates`
`14:02.56`	`[Ammo]`	`boom boom boom boom`
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`14:06.01`	`Grine`	`Tekkub: you around?`
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`14:32.06`	`XLVII`	`Does anyone know anything about Thaurissian? (the new Oceanic realm?)`
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`14:42.58`	`yacoob`	`huah!`
`14:43.13`	`Industrial`	`woot grats`
`14:43.21`	`yacoob`	`pedestrians, beware!`
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`14:44.28`	`Fritti`	`congrats yacoob!`
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`14:47.47`	`zoktar`	`are there tbc only addons in winaceupdater?`
`14:48.11`	`usz`	`no`
`14:48.31`	`usz`	`WAU gives you addons from trunk, while TBC addons are branched`
`14:48.55`	`usz`	`when TBC gets released, those addons will be moved from branch to trunk and then appear in WAU`
`14:49.06`	`zoktar`	`some ace part broke last time i updated`
`14:49.15`	`zoktar`	`aceaddons-2.0 i think`
`14:49.20`	`Industrial`	`usz: no when the 2.0 update will come`
`14:49.22`	`Industrial`	`not TBC`
`14:49.27`	`Tornhoof`	`i changed it a bit to use tbc branch if existaing, but it's not yet cleared with the original author`
`14:49.28`	`Industrial`	`well get a 1.0 update before tbc`
`14:49.29`	`usz`	`ah k 2.0 then`
`14:49.34`	`Industrial`	`they are 2.0 addons :P`
`14:49.53`	`usz`	`btw Industrial, does 2.0 have all tainting mechanics too? the PTR 2.0`
`14:50.26`	`Fritti`	`yes it does usz`
`14:51.03`	`usz`	`thanks`
`14:51.15`	`zoktar`	`mkay now it works for some reason :P`
`14:51.25`	`zoktar`	`ah i disable the AOI library thing`
`14:51.32`	`zoktar`	`think thats what updated`
`14:51.44`	`kaiden`	`Anyone able to suggest an application that can hook anything in memory that's recording keystrokes that would either be directly sending them to an outside source or recording them to the hd to pass along after it's done?`
`14:52.18`	`kaiden`	`I'm trying to figure out if I had a keylogger application on one of my computers, someone somehow got my password and i've never ran any executable other than WinAceUpdater that pertains to wow`
`14:52.56`	`usz`	`using IE? ^^`
`14:53.07`	`Fritti`	`you don't see them if they're good kaiden, only known good config is a reinstall`
`14:53.32`	`kaiden`	`usz, yes, but ie 7`
`14:53.52`	`kaiden`	`Fritti, yes that's what i'm dreading, i have 6 computers in my house that i'm going to have to format and reinstall`
`14:53.59`	`Fritti`	`:(`
`14:54.01`	`kaiden`	`but .. i have good reason since windows vista was released last night`
`14:54.22`	`kaiden`	`usz, and last i checked ie7 wasn't susceptible to the auto app install that ie6 was`
`14:54.52`	`usz`	`well that wasnt the browser itself, but some windows library`
`14:55.19`	`kaiden`	`well i run windows updates on my systems as often as possible so it shouldn't be that, is there any way to test for that vulnerability`
`14:55.23`	`Silviu-`	`kaiden was released ?`
`14:55.45`	`kaiden`	`Silviu-, yes, Vista final dvd that was sent to RTM to reprint for sale was released on MSDN last night`
`14:55.52`	`kaiden`	`at 10:36pm PST`
`14:56.00`	`Silviu-`	`i thought only next year`
`14:56.01`	`Fritti`	`is the one on MSDN the final image?`
`14:56.04`	`Fritti`	`interesting`
`14:56.07`	`Fritti`	`I thought it would be the next beta`
`14:56.09`	`kaiden`	`Fritti, indeed it is`
`14:56.17`	`kaiden`	`nope no more beta's`
`14:56.20`	`kaiden`	`vista went gold on the 8th`
`14:56.27`	`kaiden`	`office 2007 is out as well`
`14:56.41`	`Fritti`	`nod, saw that one`
`14:56.48`	`zoktar`	`ill say this now case someone else comes asking for it, somethings wrong with one of the library packs messes up ace stuff :)`
`14:56.51`	`abbat-w`	`�� `
`14:56.54`	`abbat-w`	`vista too`
`14:56.57`	`kaiden`	`Silviu-, vista wont be available to the public until january 16th from what i hear`
`14:56.57`	`zoktar`	`disabling em makes everything fine again :)`
`14:57.02`	`abbat-w`	`but no good activation crack`
`14:57.36`	`Silviu-`	`kaiden ah ok :)`
`14:57.36`	`abbat-w`	`no no`
`14:57.37`	`abbat-w`	`vista RTM released at least 5-6 days`
`14:57.37`	`kaiden`	`abbat-w, that's why you should just buy it ;) an os is something worth paying for since you use it everytime you are on your computer`
`14:57.59`	`abbat-w`	`buy it? :)`
`14:58.14`	`abbat-w`	`no, i'm fine with xp ;)`
`14:58.16`	`Fritti`	`bah, no vista yet in academic alliance subscription I guess`
`14:58.22`	`haarm`	`kaiden`
`14:58.27`	`haarm`	`www.rootkit.com`
`14:58.32`	`haarm`	`they have the technology!`
`14:59.12`	`haarm`	`there's a bunch of tools down the side, i'm pretty sure one of them can tell if keystrokes are being hooked`
`14:59.47`	`abbat-w`	`Microsoft.Windows.Vista.RTM.32Bit.and.64Bit.AIO.DVD.READ.NFO-WinBeta`
`14:59.52`	`Amadeo`	`Vista's too expensive`
`14:59.55`	`abbat-w`	`20061114`
`15:00.00`	`Silviu-`	Anyone know where FireFox stores it`s settings in windows ? cause one time crashed and i uninstalled deleted all files, from regedit too and still when i do a fresh install keeps those settings from crash and not saving any new settings i do :)
`15:00.03`	`abbat-w`	`3 days ago`
`15:00.06`	`kaiden`	`Amadeo, dunno i work next door to microsoft so .. i haven't ever had that problem`
`15:00.24`	`kaiden`	`only costs me like 30 bucks for a professional copy of xp so i'm pretty sure vista will cost about the same`
`15:00.26`	`Grine`	`you just walk in and steal it?`
`15:00.39`	`abbat-w`	`kaiden, depends on version`
`15:00.48`	`abbat-w`	`from 100 to 500 dollars i read`
`15:00.52`	`kaiden`	`well i'm also a msdn dev subscriber so i get a key to it by default`
`15:01.07`	`abbat-w`	`yep`
`15:01.13`	`kaiden`	`Grine, you wouldn't believe the amount of security at the ms store :P`
`15:01.24`	`abbat-w`	`also you get proper VLK version`
`15:01.29`	`abbat-w`	`much better then OEM`
`15:01.51`	`kaiden`	`though the msdn product key for vista is broken right now`
`15:01.59`	`kaiden`	`keep requesting one and it just keeps throwing errors`
`15:02.09`	`abbat-w`	`i can see in pirate releases .nfo key for vista`
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`15:02.13`	`abbat-w`	`if you need`
`15:02.38`	`Amadeo`	`most of those Vista releases are fake`
`15:02.56`	`kaiden`	`abbat-w, nah i'd rather just wait until their key producer is fixed`
`15:03.10`	`kaiden`	`i'm at work right now so i have to wait all day before i install it anyways`
`15:03.14`	`abbat-w`	`Amadeo, -WinBeta and -BillGates are proper releases`
`15:03.33`	`Amadeo`	`I see`
`15:03.34`	`abbat-w`	`But activation just a pain now.`
`15:04.00`	`kaiden`	`so abbat-w, do you know if they have released a patch for vista to make it not take up as much memory`
`15:04.06`	`kaiden`	`like something that rips all of the fluff out of it`
`15:04.14`	`abbat-w`	`;)`
`15:04.39`	`kaiden`	`i know there's a ton of fluff simply in the dock bar but i haven't tested vista long enough to remove any of that crap`
`15:04.54`	`kaiden`	`everytime i tested it after like 2 reboots vista would corrupt my file indexes of every file on my harddrive`
`15:05.59`	`Amadeo`	`that's strange`
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`15:06.43`	`kaiden`	`i agree :P kept me from wanting to run it at all`
`15:07.04`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`15:09.41`	`kaiden`	`though, i have to admit back when there was a bug in the sound panel when you would try to edit microphone settings and it would crash the computer, that was a fun one as well`
`15:10.21`	`Amadeo`	`is that from the betas?`
`15:10.27`	`wereHamster`	`doesn't CIA report the comits anymore?`
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`15:11.42`	`JoshBorke`	`CIA-17: appears to be dead`
`15:11.54`	`yacoob`	`CIA seems to be MIA 8)`
`15:12.02`	`Fritti`	`~whalestab CIA-17`
`15:12.04`	`purl`	`ACTION stabs CIA-17 with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery`
`15:12.23`	`kaiden`	`Amadeo, yup, betas sucked pretty bad`
`15:12.28`	`kaiden`	`gah... i need more cappucino !`
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`15:14.31`	`Rophy`	`is there a developer guild in tbc hellfire server?`
`15:14.59`	`Amadeo`	`Rophy: Yep, I don't remember the names but I think it's in the topic over in #wowi-lounge`
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`15:15.17`	`MoonWolf`	`read OUR topic`
`15:15.28`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`15:15.30`	`Amadeo`	`we have it too? oops :)`
`15:15.39`	`Rophy`	`I dunno how to read topics with miranda :p`
`15:16.00`	`haste`	`then RTFM, or get a better client`
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`15:16.32`	`Rophy`	`I think it can, just that I dunno how to. I need to get a better brain.`
`15:17.07`	`MoonWolf`	`type /topic`
`15:17.29`	`Rophy`	`showed: Not enough parameters: TOPIC`
`15:17.47`	`MoonWolf`	`Topic for #wowace is http://www.wowace.com \| http://svn.wowace.com \| http://www.wowace.com/files \| http://ace.pastey.net \| http://www.wowace.com/trac \| http://www.lua.org \| http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TBC_Converted_Addons \| All TBC users must use the TBC branch of Ace2 \| Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H)`
`15:17.47`	`Grine`	`./topic #wowace+`
`15:17.53`	`Grine`	`?`
`15:18.12`	`Rophy`	`hmm...`
`15:18.18`	`Rophy`	`yeah, works`
`15:18.19`	`Grine`	`I dunno I just made that up`
`15:19.02`	`kaiden`	`YAY microsofts vista key creator is fixed`
`15:19.08`	`kaiden`	`now i can happily install it`
`15:19.08`	`Rophy`	`CastSpell, so how do i join it?`
`15:19.12`	`Amadeo`	`kaiden: Get me one too`
`15:19.23`	`wereHamster`	`./join CastSpell`
`15:19.59`	`Rophy`	`you mean in wow?`
`15:20.05`	`Rophy`	`im the only one in channel`
`15:20.13`	`wereHamster`	`./who g-CastSpell`
`15:20.16`	`kaiden`	`lol you have been deemed unworthy Rophy`
`15:20.18`	`kaiden`	`;)`
`15:20.21`	`wereHamster`	`pick one and whisper 'inv'`
`15:20.37`	`beerke`	`any eta on trac coming back btw ?`
`15:20.42`	`wereHamster`	`even better, find him and /beg`
`15:22.41`	`Saroz`	`omg tons of updates since I last logged in to TBC`
`15:22.41`	`Saroz`	`-.-`
`15:24.21`	`cryogen`	`heh.`
`15:24.28`	`phyber`	`still can't put things like the MAraudon scepter into the key bag though :/`
`15:24.32`	`cryogen`	`we have hourly generated time coded passwords`
`15:24.35`	`cryogen`	`the password for this hour is:`
`15:24.36`	`cryogen`	`"ACED"`
`15:24.54`	`phyber`	`like "wow! I can put those BRD tomb keys in there now!"`
`15:25.28`	`haste`	`d0h`
`15:25.33`	`haste`	`I usually destroy those`
`15:25.53`	`phyber`	`I had 16 in my bank for some reason.`
`15:27.01`	`thalie`	`can you put the stupid ZF gahr'zilla thing in there yet`
`15:27.17`	`Kirkburn`	`Does it look like a key?`
`15:27.20`	`haste`	`I haven't done that`
`15:27.21`	`thalie`	`um`
`15:27.22`	`thalie`	`not really`
`15:27.23`	`haste`	`on any character :D`
`15:27.29`	`phyber`	`thalie: nope :/`
`15:27.31`	`thalie`	`lol`
`15:27.51`	`thalie`	`kirkburn: it might not look like a key ... but it is :) just like the mauradon scepter`
`15:28.07`	`phyber`	`Kirkburn: it doesn't like like a key, but Blizzard said it will contain "key like items"`
`15:28.07`	`Kirkburn`	`erk, hammer`
`15:28.27`	`yacoob`	`Kirkburn, why do you keep a giant Hakkar on your keyring? :)`
`15:28.31`	`thalie`	`ahha`
`15:28.31`	`phyber`	`I hope that it will at least contain the UBRS key.`
`15:28.40`	`thalie`	`yeah for sure phyber`
`15:28.47`	`phyber`	`I don't have that key to test though :/`
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`15:35.53`	`Zyphr\|Sleep`	`http://www.actiontrip.com/comics/pics/at_comic155.jpg lol`
`15:36.06`	`Saroz`	`WTB test raid, tempest keep`
`15:36.06`	`Saroz`	`alliance`
`15:41.05`	`Saroz`	`no?`
`15:41.33`	`FelixTeCat`	`I think they are all asleep`
`15:41.48`	`Saroz`	`:(`
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`15:52.49`	`mjc`	`sup buttfaces :)`
`15:53.03`	`selece`	`Meanie! :[`
`15:54.22`	`haste`	`hmm, I screen goes black, screen comes back, I see: -4700 fall damge`
`15:54.35`	`[Liquidor]`	`Do you guys know what I should search for when I want a lua syntax scheme/parser alike for PHP?`
`15:54.36`	`haste`	`auto-walk is evil!`
`15:54.49`	`selece`	`That's a big fall. :/`
`15:54.54`	`Antiarc`	`[Liquidor]_: What do you mean?`
`15:55.02`	`[Liquidor]`	`ye what do I mean heh 2 sec I'll try explain`
`15:55.05`	`haste`	`selece: top of shattrath to the bottom`
`15:55.10`	`[Liquidor]`	`You know LuaSlinger?`
`15:55.45`	`haste`	`you want syntax highlighting for Lua, in PHP?`
`15:55.51`	`[Liquidor]`	`erhm you know pastey.net at least. What I need is a script that makes the same highlight as if choosing Lua on pastey.net`
`15:55.55`	`[Liquidor]`	`ye`
`15:56.00`	`[Liquidor]`	`you know what I should search for?`
`15:56.20`	`haste`	`[Liquidor]: http://qbnz.com/highlighter/`
`15:57.24`	`[Liquidor]`	`Thank you.`
`15:58.05`	`selece`	`Newbie question: I have an SVN account, Talk:Rules page is signed and I can log in. Following the SVN for Beginners on the wiki, I get a 403 forbidden when trying to import my addon to the trunk, but it works in the sandbox. Is there someone I have to see for permissions, or do I need to bug someone to create a folder for me?`
`15:59.16`	`Rophy`	`is there any mod which can shows the contents of a table in a convenient way?`
`15:59.58`	`Iceroth`	`Rophy, tekProber and iriel's devtools come to mind`
`16:00.00`	`phyber`	`no, but when one is made, it should be caled Tabloid.`
`16:00.10`	`phyber`	`ah, then they should be renamed Tabloid.`
`16:00.45`	`Rophy`	`I am using DevTools atm, but direct outputs is not easy to list big tables.`
`16:00.51`	`Rophy`	`I'll check that tekProber`
`16:01.01`	`Iceroth`	`tekprober let's your "browse" the table`
`16:01.18`	`Rophy`	`cool, that's exactly what I want.`
`16:04.04`	`Iceroth`	`selece, you should be able to create the folder on your own too :\|`
`16:04.16`	`selece`	`That's what I thought :/`
`16:04.49`	`Antiarc`	`Have you tried non-recursively checking out the trunk, creating your folder, adding it, and committing it?`
`16:05.05`	`selece`	`Hm, not yet.`
`16:05.18`	`Antiarc`	`svn co http://my.repo.net/svn/whatever/trunk --N`
`16:05.22`	`Antiarc`	`Err, -N, not --N`
`16:05.36`	`selece`	`Just thought it bizzare that I couldn't create a folder, but I'll be back in a sec after trying that.`
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`16:07.59`	`Rophy`	`um... is there any TBC compatible tekProber available?`
`16:08.04`	`selece`	`Antiarc - any way to do that through TortiseSVN?`
`16:08.22`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah, check the "Check out only the top folder" checkbox`
`16:08.33`	`selece`	`Mmmkay, thanks.`
`16:08.57`	`Antiarc`	`So I have a Button that inherits from SecureActionButtonTemplate that represents and item. On left click, I want it to pick up the item and put it on the cursor, unless there's a spell targeting, in which case I want it to cast the spell on the item. Right click uses the item. The way I have it set up right now is that on PreClick, if there is a spell targeting, I call self:SetAttribute("type1", "item"), and then on PostClick, set self:SetAttribute("type1"`
`16:09.20`	`mjc`	`god damn`
`16:09.30`	`mjc`	`"tl,dr"`
`16:09.34`	`Antiarc`	`Wall of text'd! :D`
`16:09.36`	`Iceroth`	`self:SetAttribute("type1" clip`
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`16:09.49`	`Antiarc`	`I call self:SetAttribute("type1", "item"), and then on PostClick, set self:SetAttribute("type1", ATTRIBUTE_NOOP). PreClick handles picking up the item (non-protected function). This works, except I won't be able to set type1 while InCombatLockdown() == true, so I basically won't be able to enchant items/cast weapon buffs in combat from my interface. Anyone know of a way around this?`
`16:09.55`	`Antiarc`	`Stupid Trillian showing more than went through.`
`16:09.57`	`beerke`	`selece, quoted from manual : The SVN will now actively reject commits to trunk that have bad notes. To ensure that your commit is accepted, the note must begin with the addon's folder name you are committing to. For example, if you are committing to /trunk/SomeNeatMod/modules then the commit note must begin "SomeNeatMod ..."`
`16:10.08`	`beerke`	`maybe thats your problem :)`
`16:10.13`	`mjc`	`* Antiarc's Wall of Text crits #wowace for 1,000,000,000. #wowace dies.`
`16:10.16`	`JoshBorke`	`Antiarc: can't do it in combat`
`16:10.35`	`Antiarc`	`I know - I'm not looking for a way to do it in combat. Rather, just a cleaner more general solution.`
`16:11.04`	`Antiarc`	`What would be ideal is the ability to return true/false from PreClick, one of which would terminate the click chain (and prevent OnClick/PostClick from happening), but I dont' think we get that.`
`16:11.28`	`selece`	`beerke - Yeah, made sure my note was complete, unless "MyMod: initial commit <newline> - my description" doesn't count as one.`
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`16:11.40`	`Antiarc`	`I can't hook OnClick to achieve my goal without tainting the code.`
`16:11.54`	`Antiarc`	`(Since a hook gets executed after the secure code, and in this case, I'd want it to conditionally execute the secure code)`
`16:12.27`	`Antiarc`	`This also leaves me wondering how we're supposed to make general bag mods, unless Blizz plans to have us just re-arrange their ContainerItemButton frames.`
`16:12.54`	`haarm`	`I'd want it to conditionally execute the secure code <--- this is the point of tainting, so you can't conditionally execute such things :)`
`16:13.00`	`Antiarc`	`I know :)`
`16:13.10`	`Antiarc`	`Bleeeh.`
`16:13.36`	`Antiarc`	`In practice, my solution should work for the vast majority of use cases`
`16:13.42`	`haarm`	`what we need is a buffer overrun into a macro buffer!`
`16:13.44`	`Antiarc`	`But, there's that slight tiny hole there.`
`16:16.16`	`Antiarc`	`The most ideal way to do it would be to have an attribute settable on the SecureActionButton that causes the item to be picked up.`
`16:16.25`	`Antiarc`	`That way I could just completely skip my ugly hax.`
`16:16.27`	`selece`	`Antiarc - sadly your solution didn't work. :x`
`16:16.38`	`Antiarc`	`selece: Did you see the bit up above about commit notes?`
`16:16.54`	`Antiarc`	`Try making the commit note start with ".", as per the wiki`
`16:17.04`	`selece`	`Yeah, made sure my note began with my addon name, will try the "."`
`16:17.22`	`Antiarc`	`I'm thinking that if you're trying to create the addon folder, then it might not work with addon name`
`16:18.59`	`selece`	`Nope, same MKACTIVITY <path>-<long bit of hex> 403 forbidden (http://dev.wowace.com) O_o;`
`16:20.28`	`Antiarc`	`Hahahaha, wow. The patch yesterday included the Tier 4 set bonuses. The rogue bonuses are....amazingly bad.`
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`16:21.10`	`Mikma`	`well, priest doesn't have bonus yet`
`16:21.21`	`selece`	`Set bonuses you say ...`
`16:21.52`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6198-BagRename.html hehe`
`16:22.33`	`Antiarc`	`http://www.thottbot.com/beta?set=621 <-- rogue bonuses`
`16:23.39`	`Antiarc`	`I'm looking over the various sets and they're all pretty lackluster bonuses.`
`16:23.59`	`Antiarc`	`Except warlocks. Nerf warlocks.`
`16:24.00`	`Antiarc`	`Your fire damage spells have a chance to grant you 135 bonus shadow damage for 15 sec and your shadow damage spells have a chance to grant you 135 bonus fire damage for 15 sec.`
`16:27.11`	`beerke`	`i only care for hunter set :)`
`16:27.17`	`beerke`	`gimme link please ^^`
`16:27.51`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: mofo?`
`16:29.02`	`Silviu-`	`Antiarc: u have a link for the warlock set bonuses ?`
`16:30.48`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3026.msg60364#msg60364`
`16:30.56`	`Mikma`	`i call that one a lame post`
`16:31.15`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah, one sec`
`16:31.26`	`Antiarc`	`http://www.thottbot.com/beta?set=645`
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`16:32.22`	`Silviu-`	`Thank u ;)`
`16:33.10`	`Antiarc`	`http://www.thottbot.com/beta?set=646 - warlock Tier 5.`
`16:33.18`	`beerke`	`hmm how do u set the text of a checkbutton ? mycheckbutton:SetText(txt) does not work ....`
`16:33.24`	`selece`	`Antiarc - so, it's not the note as far as I can tell, this is really bizzare. :x`
`16:34.01`	`Mikma`	`so any new drama going on?`
`16:34.11`	`odt`	`drama has left the guild`
`16:34.41`	`odt`	`we actually do have a member named "drama" in ours`
`16:34.47`	`JoshBorke`	`i still don't know what DreamLayout is supposed to look like`
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`16:35.05`	`Neronix`	`JoshBorke: Each button has a translucent grey square border`
`16:35.41`	`Mikma`	`well i'll just have to look the LV drama :D`
`16:36.52`	`Mikma`	`http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6936/truthlu1.jpg`
`16:36.54`	`Mikma`	`hahaha`
`16:36.56`	`Mikma`	`who was that`
`16:37.09`	`Mikma`	`reveal yourself and receive a virtual-cookie!`
`16:41.46`	`Mikma`	`[Ammo]: you should implement a code to mess la vendetta up in ora2 ;)`
`16:42.23`	`Neronix`	`Seconded ;P`
`16:43.08`	`Mikma`	`the description still has the same text in it than before`
`16:43.15`	`Mikma`	`eventho the author removed the warmup picture ;)`
`16:43.48`	`Mikma`	`La Vendetta Boss Mods provide a full standalone heavy Bossmod. It uses much lesser Performance than other BossMods like Ct_bossmods, Bigwigs, Imba, or something like this. We dont need any other Librarys, addons or mods to get all of our Functions Working.`
`16:44.09`	`DrDre`	`if im not mistaken`
`16:44.14`	`Neronix`	`hmph`
`16:44.16`	`Mikma`	`BW should reply to that "we use libraries so we do't have to reinvent wheel. we also don't use gui since we don't have to"`
`16:44.26`	`DrDre`	`load up time has no value on its actual memory usage in game does it not?`
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`16:44.43`	`Mikma`	`i hate flamewars.`
`16:44.54`	`Neronix`	`"Libraries are evil! They drink puppy blood, expose your children to paedophiles and help the terrorists!"`
`16:45.00`	`Neronix`	`"Please! Think of the children!"`
`16:45.08`	`Mikma`	`bingo`
`16:45.10`	`DrDre`	`isnt that right? Load up time means nothing on actual memory usage?`
`16:45.16`	`Neronix`	`DrDre: Correct`
`16:45.27`	`Neronix`	`BW's is probably higher due to the object generation and stuff`
`16:45.37`	`Neronix`	`LV probably wait until after ADDON_LOADED to do stuff`
`16:45.56`	`Mikma`	`meh`
`16:46.05`	`Mikma`	`like Tekkub said, he should add some teksupport pictures there`
`16:46.11`	`Mikma`	`oh gee... ;)`
`16:46.11`	`Neronix`	`Yeah`
`16:46.47`	`Mikma`	`"Ace2. GUI's are for noobs."`
`16:48.10`	`phyber`	`should make an ace addon that disables the world view and gives us a big console.`
`16:48.24`	`phyber`	`"You are standing in Ironforge. Morons are blocking the mail box again."`
`16:48.34`	`Neronix`	`"A rogue suddenly destealths behind you!"`
`16:48.40`	`Neronix`	`>turn round`
`16:48.55`	`Neronix`	`"Rogue backstabs you for lots. You bleed to death and die"`
`16:48.58`	`DrDre`	`anyone else bugged out on PTR?`
`16:48.59`	`Neronix`	`>Fuck this`
`16:49.11`	`phyber`	`"You copulate with the console"`
`16:49.43`	`Neronix`	`>Quit`
`16:50.01`	`Neronix`	`"The account management page just stopped working mysteriously!"`
`16:50.30`	`haste`	`"Your account has also just been frozen, mysteriously."`
`16:50.40`	`Mikma`	`wanna know how you can clear the mailbox fast?`
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`16:50.46`	`haste`	`>/wrists`
`16:50.47`	`Mikma`	`i have a perfect way for it :D`
`16:50.48`	`yacoob`	`Your fucking device was also frozen, obviously.`
`16:51.04`	`haste`	`Mikma: oh?`
`16:51.20`	`Mikma`	`http://www.thottbot.com/?i=13652`
`16:51.41`	`haste`	`I was hoping for some imba trick`
`16:51.48`	`Mikma`	`that is imba trick`
`16:51.49`	`Teomyr`	`haha`
`16:51.51`	`Teomyr`	`true`
`16:51.59`	`Mikma`	`they hate that sound and run away asap`
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`16:54.33`	`Mikma`	`so what's the order? ...`
`16:54.41`	`Mikma`	`CT_BossMod, BigWigs ... ?`
`16:56.32`	`FtH\|eagle`	`hi`
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`17:08.39`	`kergoth`	`is something up with svn?`
`17:08.53`	`usz`	`like?`
`17:09.11`	`usz`	`i commited 5 minutes ago and all was fine, but CIA seems dead`
`17:09.17`	`kergoth`	RA layer request failed: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace': PROPFIND of '/wowace': Could not resolve hostname `dev.wowace.com': No address associated with hostname (http://dev.wowace.com)
`17:09.19`	`kergoth`	`:(`
`17:09.24`	`kergoth`	`my dns no likey me`
`17:09.25`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah`
`17:09.30`	`sylvanaar`	`me too`
`17:09.36`	`kergoth`	`usz: whats the dev. ip?`
`17:09.43`	`sylvanaar`	`cia has been mia for a while`
`17:09.52`	`usz`	`65.98.61.59`
`17:10.26`	`kergoth`	`thanks`
`17:10.36`	`JoshBorke`	`dns seems to be a little messed up right now`
`17:10.44`	`kergoth`	`the cartographer instancenotes addon is 736KiB :(`
`17:11.33`	`sylvanaar`	`its working again`
`17:11.41`	`sylvanaar`	`wierd`
`17:12.57`	`sylvanaar`	`im still convinced that the wow client messes dns up in some way`
`17:13.20`	`Antiarc`	`[chris@daedalus ~]$ host dev.wowace.com`
`17:13.21`	`Antiarc`	`dev.wowace.com has address 65.98.61.59`
`17:13.44`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, its working again`
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`17:15.36`	`phyber`	`The cutscene outside AQ when you're on the quest to find the Crystaline Tear rocks.`
`17:15.44`	`phyber`	`watching them put up the AQ barrier`
`17:16.31`	`usz`	`phyber, doing full questline and actually hitting the gong roxx :D`
`17:16.36`	`phyber`	`hehe`
`17:16.56`	`usz`	`i DCed like 5 times before i even managed to get to gong`
`17:17.10`	`phyber`	`hehe, you were the one to do it on your server? :)`
`17:17.17`	`usz`	`aye`
`17:17.20`	`phyber`	`nice.`
`17:17.31`	`phyber`	`on Bloodhoof, we had two people hit it to open the place.`
`17:17.45`	`phyber`	`the first gonged it, lost the scepter, gained the mount, and then the server crashed`
`17:17.54`	`phyber`	`came back, they still had the mount but the gate was closed.`
`17:18.01`	`phyber`	`luckily, another guild also had the scepter ;)`
`17:18.09`	`kergoth`	`<CIA-17> kergoth * r17320 ./ (5 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer_InstanceNotes: initial import of addon to populate cartographer with instance notes. Imported MetaMap's instance notes and converted them to the cartographer format.`
`17:18.20`	`phyber`	`kergoth: nice :)`
`17:18.34`	`usz`	`kergoth, you gonna work now in CIA?`
`17:18.42`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`17:18.53`	`kergoth`	`clearly you underestimate my laziness`
`17:18.59`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`17:19.00`	`kergoth`	`phyber: http://hawkins.kergoth.com:1980/wow_069.jpg`
`17:19.19`	`kergoth`	`phyber: the positionoing might still be slightly off, let me know if it is.. getting the scales/offsets right was a royal pain`
`17:19.29`	`usz`	`kergoth, btw i added "Find similar items" to TE`
`17:19.52`	`kergoth`	`interesting, how does it work?`
`17:20.31`	`usz`	`it calculates distance between items, wieghting their difference using 4 custom parameters`
`17:20.42`	`kergoth`	`very cool`
`17:20.45`	`usz`	`in fact 3, as 4th is just cutoff`
`17:21.35`	`sylvanaar`	`nice agUf is working on tbc now - i guess i should see if anyone put the patch in`
`17:23.43`	`usz`	`even it finds quite similar items while using default values i provided ^^`
`17:25.50`	`sylvanaar`	`meh alot more code changes than i was expecting`
`17:28.01`	`sylvanaar`	`man whatever is in the tbc branch broke the default layouts`
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`17:34.07`	`Fisker`	`nice kergoth`
`17:34.08`	`Fisker`	`you rule`
`17:34.08`	`Fisker`	`:P`
`17:36.11`	`Saroz`	`ffs, SVN keeps failing when I update`
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`17:40.11`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r17220 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - fixed issue with notes not showing up.`
`17:40.11`	`CIA-17`	`03sole * r17221 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2: Added Mangle (Cat) and Mangle (Bear), english only, icon path + other locales are commented out`
`17:40.18`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r17222 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - fixed a bug in communication.`
`17:40.30`	`usz`	`17322 is current rev...`
`17:40.34`	`Industrial`	`kergoth: screenshot, did you make those POI's?`
`17:40.35`	`usz`	`expect 100 spam messages ^^`
`17:40.48`	`Saroz`	`CIA FTW!`
`17:40.52`	`kergoth`	`Industrial: no, i wrote some lua to convert metamap's instance database to cartographer`
`17:41.11`	`CIA-17`	`03wmrojer * r17223 10TradeskillInfoUI/ (TradeskillInfoConfig.lua TradeskillInfoConfig.xml): TradeskillInfoUI : Color Recipes in the Auction House. Banked amount and Alt in tooltips. (Requires CharacterInfoStorage)`
`17:41.13`	`Industrial`	`module module!`
`17:41.14`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`17:41.16`	`CIA-17`	`03wmrojer * r17224 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillInfo.lua: TradeskillInfo : Color Recipes in the Auction House. Banked amount and Alt in tooltips. (Requires CharacterInfoStorage)`
`17:41.24`	`Saroz`	`gimme a chance to update here`
`17:41.24`	`Saroz`	`jesus`
`17:41.36`	`kergoth`	`cia's playing catchup`
`17:41.49`	`kergoth`	`those cartographer notes commits were from yesterday, werent they?`
`17:42.03`	`Industrial`	`yes ker`
`17:42.11`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r17225 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`17:42.11`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`17:42.13`	`Industrial`	`kergoth: make it a module ;D`
`17:42.14`	`CIA-17`	`- Oops; string.gmatch doesn't exist til 5.1. Really dual compatible now.`
`17:42.16`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r17226 10MobMitigation/MobMitigation.lua:`
`17:42.18`	`CIA-17`	`MobMitigation:`
`17:42.20`	`Saroz`	`go go spam`
`17:42.20`	`CIA-17`	`- Ice Lance and Arcane Blast are now in BabbleSpell; added.`
`17:42.21`	`DrDre`	`gogo cia!`
`17:42.21`	`Saroz`	`go gooo`
`17:42.22`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r17227 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Modules/InstanceMaps.lua): Cartographer - added Go to menu, much cleaner imho than Blizzard's. Blizzard's may be hidden later due to this.`
`17:42.25`	`CIA-17`	`03otravi 07TBC * r17228 10oCD/oCD/oCD.toc: oCD: TOC fix.`
`17:42.34`	`usz`	`this is going to be alot of spam ^^`
`17:42.44`	`packetls2`	`how far behind is it?`
`17:42.51`	`usz`	`almost 100 commits`
`17:42.56`	`packetls2`	`ouch`
`17:42.56`	`usz`	`"Revision 17322: /trunk"`
`17:43.11`	`CIA-17`	`03beerke * r17229 10BigWigs_LoathebTactical/BigWigs_LoathebTactical.lua:`
`17:43.11`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs_LoathebTactical :`
`17:43.11`	`CIA-17`	`- Added option to skip group 1 in spore sequence`
`17:43.11`	`CIA-17`	`- Attempt to fix reversing spore warning`
`17:43.11`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r17230 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer - Update koKR`
`17:43.13`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r17231 10FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_RegenFu.toc: FuBar_RegenFu: toc change`
`17:43.15`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar 07TBC * r17232 10FuBar_SWStats2Fu/FuBar_SWStats2Fu/ (Adapters/swstats.lua SWStats2FuLocal-enUS.lua SWStatsFu.lua): FuBar_SWStats2Fu:`
`17:43.18`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub 07jerry * r17233 10lern2count/lern2count/Locales/koKR.lua: lern2count (jerry's branch) : update koKR`
`17:43.19`	`nevcairiel`	`its going fast`
`17:43.20`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`17:43.21`	`CIA-17`	`(157 lines omitted)`
`17:43.26`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`17:43.28`	`selece`	`lol`
`17:43.32`	`Teomyr`	`lol`
`17:43.40`	`Saroz`	`...`
`17:43.42`	`Saroz`	`wtf?`
`17:44.16`	`Teomyr`	`i'm repeatedly getting "No such revision 17322" when checking out/browsing svn.wowace.com, anyone else?`
`17:44.20`	`Saroz`	`same`
`17:44.23`	`Saroz`	`annoying as hell`
`17:44.36`	`Saroz`	`stupid externals arent sync'd`
`17:47.07`	`kergoth`	`Industrial: hm? i just committed the cartographer instancenotes addon. its seperate for a reason, its like 750K`
`17:47.18`	`Industrial`	`k`
`17:47.40`	`kergoth`	`Industrial: currently it uses the notes i included, from the conversion, but there's an unused .lua in the tree with the original conversion bits if someone needs them`
`17:47.44`	`Industrial`	`hmm I like this RSS feed reader, Alertbear`
`17:47.52`	`Industrial`	`its like a tray popup thingy`
`17:48.32`	`phyber`	`kergoth: does it setup all the notes as soon as it loads, or just when you've got that instance selected Cartographer? and would it make any difference at all anyway`
`17:48.49`	`phyber`	`s/selected/selected in/`
`17:48.54`	`kergoth`	`currently it sets them all up on load, i was planning on trying out loading when the instance is selected though`
`17:49.01`	`phyber`	`ok :)`
`17:49.12`	`kergoth`	`it might make a difference, the notes are a lot smaller when "compressed" in a function() end than when in a table`
`17:51.33`	`kergoth`	`phyber: however, note that it stores the db in savedvars, since cartographer allows you to delete notes, i figured itd be good for those deletions to persist`
`17:51.47`	`kergoth`	`so once it populates each instance once, they'd all stay in ram`
`17:51.55`	`kergoth`	`maybe we should ditch that and only store them in ram though`
`17:52.05`	`yacoob`	`haha, another group of people massacred with my riddle :)`
`17:52.11`	`Industrial`	`yacoob: ? :o`
`17:52.12`	`Industrial`	`hit me`
`17:52.25`	`usz`	`well i thought about doing something simillar for TooltipExchange, like "instance item packs"`
`17:52.39`	`Industrial`	`whats TOoltipExchange?`
`17:52.40`	`yacoob`	`Industrial, you have 12 iron balls. Well - in fact - 11 iron balls and one ball which is different`
`17:52.50`	`yacoob`	`lighter or heavier, you don't know.`
`17:52.50`	`usz`	`Industrial, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TooltipExchange`
`17:52.57`	`yacoob`	`You also have a scale.`
`17:53.18`	`yacoob`	`Now, the task is to find this oddball, using scale up to 3 times.`
`17:53.26`	`Industrial`	`ok`
`17:53.49`	`Industrial`	`usz: are you doing this to make a really extensive system? cause theres addons that use your game item cache.. ludwig, ItemDB`
`17:53.52`	`kergoth`	`i'd do a binary search`
`17:53.57`	`kergoth`	`weigh 6 vs 6, then go from there`
`17:53.59`	`kergoth`	`but shrug`
`17:54.08`	`yacoob`	`kergoth, go from there, sure :)`
`17:54.16`	`yacoob`	`(but it's dead end)`
`17:54.19`	`usz`	`Industrial, i make it in kind of different way`
`17:54.24`	`kergoth`	`hmmm`
`17:54.28`	`yacoob`	`you DON'T know whether it's lighter or heavier`
`17:54.33`	`yacoob`	`that's the trick`
`17:54.36`	`Industrial`	`usz: i mean do you add alot of extra info?`
`17:54.43`	`Industrial`	`yacoob: lol`
`17:54.53`	`yacoob`	`so if left goes down, right goes up, it could be heavier ball on left, or lighter on right`
`17:54.57`	`usz`	`Industrial, i store full item tooltip data, in kind of smart database`
`17:55.19`	`Industrial`	`usz: have you ever tried ludwig?`
`17:55.22`	`kergoth`	`you bastard, i dont have enough caffeine yet in the morning to be forced to think`
`17:55.25`	`usz`	`nope`
`17:55.41`	`sylvanaar`	`~seen nymbia`
`17:56.00`	`purl`	`nymbia <n=nymbia@70-58-14-189.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 3m 6s ago, saying: 'i know i've done 5 or 6'.`
`17:56.00`	`yacoob`	`kergoth, it's a bit evil, I had to recreate the solution as I forgot it :)`
`17:56.00`	`Industrial`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5174`
`17:56.00`	`sylvanaar`	`how do you enter in that command`
`17:56.00`	`Industrial`	`usz: it doesnt use lue tables or saved vars`
`17:56.00`	`Industrial`	`to save info`
`17:56.01`	`phyber`	`kergoth: maybe you should just store a "deleted" flag for the note. instead of storing them all in SVars. then when you're loading them, if that note has been "deleted", just don't load it.`
`17:56.04`	`Industrial`	`usz: it uses your WDB files`
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`17:56.28`	`usz`	`Industrial, you mean it always iterates over GetItemInfo?`
`17:56.39`	`yacoob`	`I'm in your cache, eating your WDB files.`
`17:56.57`	`Industrial`	`usz: i have no idea. It doesnt use saved vars to store info`
`17:57.12`	`Industrial`	`usz: so when you have a big database .. its not all there big in your ram`
`17:57.13`	`kergoth`	`phyber: thats a good idea, but how would you implement it? you wont know a note has been deleted unless you run the function to populate all the notes -again-, and then iterate over the two tables, comparing them to see which note(s) are missing`
`17:57.20`	`usz`	`well only solution is to iterate from 1 to MAX(itemID) and run GetItemInfo(itemID)`
`17:57.23`	`kergoth`	`and you'd have to do that on every player logout`
`17:57.32`	`usz`	`still it wont do what TE does ^^`
`17:57.46`	`usz`	`1. It wont find items with 1% crit`
`17:57.53`	`usz`	`2. it wont find items you dont have in local cache`
`17:57.54`	`Industrial`	`usz: i dont know, im just trying to keep you from writing alot of code that isnt there yes`
`17:58.08`	`kergoth`	`usz has already written it, and it fits needs ludwig/itemdb dont`
`17:58.09`	`Industrial`	`usz: im saying that i dont want a 30MB itemdb loaded`
`17:58.13`	`kergoth`	`then dont use it.`
`17:58.26`	`kergoth`	`just as you wouldnt use kci with its item db, or lootlink with its`
`17:58.32`	`Industrial`	`kergoth: well he didnt know about it`
`17:58.36`	`usz`	`idd, i explicitly added to notes that its heavy mod ^^`
`17:58.37`	`kergoth`	`he knew about it`
`17:58.39`	`kergoth`	`just not about that one addon`
`17:58.46`	`kergoth`	`all ludwig does is what he just described`
`17:58.46`	`Industrial`	`kergoth: wel sorreeeee :P`
`17:58.50`	`kergoth`	`an iteration and a getiteminfo`
`17:58.59`	`phyber`	`kergoth: might need some kind of ability to override the default delete function of the notes. Then you can just make that function hide the note and set the deleted flag.`
`17:59.03`	`sylvanaar`	`ok Unit(Deb\|B)uff added 1 parameter so that P1, _, P2, P3 func() would be correct right?`
`17:59.16`	`kergoth`	`phyber: we wont get that until ckk gives us our OnClick and ability to manipulate the notes dewdrop`
`17:59.22`	`kergoth`	`once he does, then we could do that`
`17:59.22`	`phyber`	`the note will be in memory for the rest of that session, but in the next one, it wouldn't be loaded.`
`17:59.31`	`phyber`	`cool.`
`17:59.58`	`kergoth`	`so we could move to a populate-on-instance-load setup and use that to facilitate persistant deletions`
`18:00.01`	`kergoth`	`that sounds good to me`
`18:00.12`	`kergoth`	`now to see how we get notified when cartographer switches maps..`
`18:00.38`	`kergoth`	`s/use that/use the aforementioned dewdrop manipulations/`
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`18:01.54`	`sylvanaar`	`unless thre is something about function calls i dont understand that lets you get P2, P3 = func(), i thought you would get P1, P2 = func()`
`18:02.29`	`phyber`	`it would also mean you can have an "undelete" menu, to restore a note if you deleted it by accident.`
`18:02.43`	`phyber`	`maybe it would be better as "Show/Hide note"`
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`18:03.48`	`phyber`	`bbl.`
`18:03.58`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: does cartographer send out an ace event when the currently displayed map switches to something else?`
`18:04.17`	`ckknight`	`no, it doesn't`
`18:04.20`	`ckknight`	`yet...`
`18:04.29`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: well, i did the instance notes thing, and its 750KiB`
`18:05.13`	`ckknight`	`actually for instances, it does send out an event`
`18:05.13`	`kergoth`	`so am thinking about keeping the tables inside of a closure for each instance, populated into actual tables only when that instance is displayed`
`18:05.28`	`Saroz`	`fecking SVN`
`18:05.32`	`ckknight`	`currently "Cartographer_SetCurrentInstance", zone`
`18:05.46`	`kergoth`	`okay, thatll do`
`18:05.53`	`ckknight`	`and the zone argument is always English.`
`18:06.13`	`ckknight`	`you would have no idea how much of a bitch it'd be to do this without Babble-Zone.`
`18:06.18`	`kergoth`	`currently the instance notes db goes into saved vars, i just populate it initially, in order to let the user note deletions persist`
`18:06.30`	`kergoth`	`but i think i'm gonna drop that to do the populate on instance display thing`
`18:06.47`	`kergoth`	`yeah no doubt`
`18:07.26`	`ckknight`	`well, with the Dewdrop override, you'll be able to make it so it can't be deleted/sent/etc.`
`18:07.55`	`ckknight`	`which may be useful, actually, for stuff like instance notes`
`18:08.17`	`kergoth`	`yup`
`18:08.22`	`kergoth`	`thats what phyber suggested`
`18:08.31`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r17323 10Cartographer_InstanceNotes/addon.lua: Cartographer_InstanceNotes: kill a remnant of a copy/paste.`
`18:08.35`	`kergoth`	`or allow it, but make it toggle a flag not to store it int he db when we populate`
`18:08.45`	`kergoth`	`and just store those flags by note id or something in the sv`
`18:08.47`	`Mikma`	`oh wow`
`18:08.51`	`Mikma`	`cia-note`
`18:08.57`	`kergoth`	`cia's caught up`
`18:08.58`	`kergoth`	`finally`
`18:09.00`	`kergoth`	`just checked that in`
`18:09.32`	`Industrial`	`nyone know a stable version of Henge i can test?`
`18:09.37`	`Industrial`	`the latest is giving errors`
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`18:15.24`	`Mikma`	`oh gee`
`18:15.26`	`Mikma`	`new guild`
`18:15.29`	`Mikma`	`no dkp system`
`18:15.34`	`Mikma`	`well, not raiding`
`18:15.42`	`Mikma`	`eventho i don't need anything and it's good for guild`
`18:16.06`	`yacoob`	`no raiding - no problem!`
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`18:21.24`	`SkOODaT`	`hey whats up all`
`18:21.49`	`Gtyrte`	`<- Bored.`
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`18:22.21`	`SkOODaT`	`i have eh question about one of the new secure function things .... how do i use --hooksecurefunc`
`18:22.42`	`SkOODaT`	`i want to make an addon that plays a sound file when you press jump`
`18:22.57`	`SkOODaT`	`more spacifically for when your mounted`
`18:23.18`	`SkOODaT`	`i am in the beta :) so i can finnaly try`
`18:23.50`	`Antiarc`	`I don't know that you can hook "jump", actually.`
`18:23.51`	`Nickenyfiken`	`haha`
`18:23.54`	`SkOODaT`	`last time i was here someone gave me this code hooksecurefunc("Jump", function() PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Tiger\\mTigerAttackA.wav") end)`
`18:23.56`	`Antiarc`	`Though I may be wrong.`
`18:24.08`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hmm i want a SVN account`
`18:24.09`	`SkOODaT`	`its a TBC function`
`18:24.25`	`Antiarc`	`Ah, yes, there is a protected Jump() function!`
`18:24.29`	`SkOODaT`	`i just need it to pick up when i press jump no actually do it`
`18:25.08`	`Antiarc`	`I'm not sure you can do that unless space bar is actually being bound to Jump()`
`18:25.15`	`Antiarc`	`I'm not sure if it is.`
`18:25.22`	`Antiarc`	`But that code should work.`
`18:25.28`	`Antiarc`	`(If it's possible)`
`18:25.39`	`SkOODaT`	`it locks my movement`
`18:25.41`	`SkOODaT`	`lol`
`18:26.03`	`Antiarc`	`What do you mean by "locks your movement"? You can't move at all after you jump?`
`18:26.20`	`SkOODaT`	`no i cant move at all`
`18:26.29`	`SkOODaT`	`could it be ISmounted`
`18:26.37`	`SkOODaT`	`im useing that to detect mount`
`18:26.59`	`Antiarc`	`IsMounted() isn't a function, I believe.`
`18:27.06`	`SkOODaT`	`its an addon`
`18:27.09`	`SkOODaT`	`thats out lol`
`18:27.21`	`Antiarc`	`That might be it. I don't know what it does.`
`18:27.28`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2951.msg60391#msg60391 <- lol`
`18:27.29`	`SkOODaT`	`like a libary to detect if your mounted scanns tooltips for buffs`
`18:27.39`	`Antiarc`	`Does the code work on normal jumps if you don't include the ISMounted stuff?`
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`18:28.09`	`SkOODaT`	`havent tried im not shure how to code it i would like the event or does it not need one?`
`18:28.12`	Neronix`out	`k, going to cinema to see Casino Royale`
`18:28.16`	`Tekkub`	`* NEW swimming = IsSwimming()`
`18:28.17`	`Tekkub`	`* NEW flying = IsFlying()`
`18:28.17`	`Tekkub`	`* NEW mounted = IsMounted()`
`18:28.18`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`18:28.29`	Neronix`out	`hot cool girl's going`
`18:28.34`	Neronix`out	`wish me luck :P`
`18:28.55`	`CIA-17`	`03jerry * r17324 10AceBonus/ (7 files in 2 dirs): AceBonus: initial import`
`18:28.55`	`pastamancer`	`just remember "what would haste do"`
`18:29.03`	`Mikma`	`~haste`
`18:29.08`	`purl`	`from memory, haste is a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo.`
`18:29.08`	Neronix`out	`:P`
`18:29.22`	`SkOODaT`	`ok so does that mean tek just updaed ismounted lol`
`18:29.22`	Neronix`out	`Ah yes, the porn voices!`
`18:29.23`	`Amadeo`	`haste would do oRgasm`
`18:29.30`	Neronix`out	`lol`
`18:29.35`	Neronix`out	`oGodYes!`
`18:29.41`	`Tekkub`	`no, mount checking is in 2.0`
`18:29.50`	`CIA-17`	`03jerry * r17325 10AceBonus/ (AceBonus.toc Libs/): AceBonus - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed)`
`18:29.52`	`Mikma`	`latest patchnotes out yet?`
`18:30.02`	`Tekkub`	`I have SEMount, I don't need that IsMounted addon`
`18:30.13`	`Amadeo`	`Tekkub: MountMe is easier in TBC?`
`18:30.36`	`Tekkub`	`Mount Me (the mounting up part) is totally fucked over in TBC right now`
`18:30.43`	`Amadeo`	`:(`
`18:30.48`	`Tekkub`	`however I've got a macro doing the same thing :)`
`18:30.57`	`Amadeo`	`hax!`
`18:31.08`	`Iceroth`	`is falling flying?)`
`18:31.15`	`Tekkub`	`well, it uses /castsequence for now till /userandom is in`
`18:31.58`	`andremar`	`anyone else have problems with latest PerfectRaid?`
`18:31.59`	`Tekkub`	`or /randomuse`
`18:32.03`	`Tekkub`	`whatever it's gonna be`
`18:33.05`	`kergoth`	`acebonus? why is that not an embedded lib?`
`18:33.42`	`SkOODaT`	`ok so its saying ERRor: ... hookserurefunction(): "jump" is not a function lol`
`18:33.53`	`SkOODaT`	`just with`
`18:34.03`	`SkOODaT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:34.16`	`Mikma`	`oh nice`
`18:34.23`	`Fritti`	`AceFoo is bad mmkay`
`18:34.27`	`Mikma`	`the ace2 thread is growing larger and larger`
`18:34.31`	`Mikma`	`just like tek's penis`
`18:34.56`	`SkOODaT`	`anyone anyidea on wow 2.0 lol`
`18:35.09`	`SkOODaT`	`all i want to do is detect a jump lol`
`18:35.17`	`sylvanaar`	`do you think that adding "hoisting" (moving the contents of a directory into the parent directory) would solve the libs vs standalone issue`
`18:35.51`	`Tekkub`	`SkOODaT, http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Movement_Functions`
`18:36.09`	`Tekkub`	`also you can use IsMounted() in 2.0, don't need an addon`
`18:36.23`	`SkOODaT`	`i can WOW`
`18:36.28`	`SkOODaT`	`thats nice`
`18:36.31`	`SkOODaT`	`:)`
`18:37.09`	`ckknight`	`back`
`18:37.20`	`Tekkub`	`they just added it last patch`
`18:38.28`	`SkOODaT`	`tek why the wiki page that jump function is protected im uesing the new one`
`18:38.48`	`SkOODaT`	`hooksecurefunc`
`18:38.52`	`Tekkub`	`the functions should still be there`
`18:39.12`	`haste`	`Tekkub: so.. did you do any research regarding the protected functions?`
`18:39.16`	`SkOODaT`	`so all this time even with wow 11200 it should of worked?`
`18:39.26`	`Tekkub`	`no I just wrote a macro for now :)`
`18:39.28`	`Mikma`	`GIEF patchnotes!`
`18:39.36`	`Tekkub`	`no SkOODaT`
`18:39.39`	`haste`	`oh!`
`18:39.44`	`Tekkub`	`it can only hook in 2.0`
`18:39.55`	`haste`	`the PTR runs one version below the TBC client`
`18:39.57`	`Tekkub`	`but the functions never changed as far as I know`
`18:40.04`	`SkOODaT`	`but id type it in the same`
`18:40.11`	`SkOODaT`	`for wow 2.0`
`18:40.16`	`kergoth`	`hmm, need to add the icons to pinpoint for the new herbsx`
`18:40.19`	`kergoth`	`felweed and all`
`18:40.23`	`Tekkub`	`erm... yea.. PTR or TBC?`
`18:40.24`	`kergoth`	`s/x$//`
`18:40.28`	`haste`	`so there might be a chance it does that 'cause to protection shit in the TBC version?`
`18:40.31`	`SkOODaT`	`im on TBC`
`18:40.31`	`Tekkub`	`you prolly don't have IsMounted on PTR`
`18:40.39`	`Tekkub`	`okey`
`18:40.41`	`SkOODaT`	`:)`
`18:40.56`	`SkOODaT`	`ill try to change brb`
`18:41.01`	`SkOODaT`	`ty btw :)`
`18:41.40`	`sylvanaar`	`i suppose i can just code it, and let everyone bitch about it - thats the defacto-standard method of getting input`
`18:42.27`	`pastamancer`	`sylvanaar: hmm?`
`18:43.31`	`sylvanaar`	`adding the ability to have a mod be in one directory with several others, then have the update tool 'hoist' all those mods into the parent directory`
`18:43.47`	`CIA-17`	`03jerry * r17326 10AceBonus/Core.lua:`
`18:43.47`	`CIA-17`	`AceBonus:`
`18:43.47`	`CIA-17`	`_ fix revision strings`
`18:44.18`	`sylvanaar`	`is that enough to solve libs vs standalone?`
`18:44.51`	`SkOODaT`	`@tek (IsMounted: a tale value .... i have it ....IsMounted("player") is that wrong?`
`18:44.56`	`sylvanaar`	`or rather !!!!libs vs !Standalone`
`18:45.00`	`Industrial`	`yay`
`18:45.00`	`SkOODaT`	`Table*`
`18:45.04`	`ckknight`	`I think it's IsMounted(), SkOODaT`
`18:45.06`	`pastamancer`	`give an example. ie. Addons/Foo/libs/BarLib-2.0 is moved to Addons/BarLib-2.0?`
`18:45.21`	`SkOODaT`	`how do u direct it to who it checks`
`18:45.28`	`SkOODaT`	`or is it just for yourself`
`18:45.52`	`Tekkub`	`* NEW mounted = IsMounted()`
`18:45.55`	`pastamancer`	`SkOODaT: it's IsMounted(), not IsUnitMounted(), so chances are that it's only for player.`
`18:45.58`	`Tekkub`	`that's the only info`
`18:46.02`	`Tekkub`	`I assume it's player only`
`18:46.08`	`SkOODaT`	`ok lol :)`
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`18:46.16`	`sylvanaar`	`heres an example !!StandaloneLibraries when you update it it copies all the libs into the parent directory`
`18:46.45`	`pastamancer`	`where are you going to get the standalone .toc files from?`
`18:47.46`	`sylvanaar`	`that doesnt have a toc`
`18:48.04`	`SkOODaT`	`same error still lol`
`18:48.04`	`sylvanaar`	`its just a folder with other mod folders in it`
`18:48.09`	`pastamancer`	`ah`
`18:48.29`	`sylvanaar`	`they each have their own toc`
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`18:48.49`	`KarlThePagan`	`greetings folks, novice lua'er here - recently started working with FuBar for a mod and I must say I love the libraries :)`
`18:49.19`	`sylvanaar`	`its like installing a mod with 10 parts as a package`
`18:49.25`	`Iceroth`	`haven't you read the wow interface forums? libs are the source of all evil!`
`18:49.30`	`ckknight`	`KarlThePagan, good times.`
`18:49.34`	`mjc`	`RAWR`
`18:49.50`	`KarlThePagan`	`yar, you've probably seen some of my nagging bugs on wowinterface ck ;)`
`18:49.57`	`sylvanaar`	`actually they are when there is no way to manage them`
`18:49.58`	`pastamancer`	`I'm not sure we should be using the svn to create packages. But then again, I'm not a fan of WAU.`
`18:49.59`	`Iceroth`	`you MUST reinvent the wheel by yourself, it's BAD to use a ready wheel`
`18:50.13`	`sylvanaar`	`great`
`18:50.28`	`Fisker`	`vhaarr ? :O`
`18:50.31`	`Iceroth`	`well, at least some seem to think that way :p`
`18:51.27`	`Iceroth`	`made me really laugh to read that thread`
`18:51.34`	`KarlThePagan`	`so one question to get me started - Is there an Ace library/mod/example for chat filtering, it looks like I've got to rewrite that part of my mod for wow 2.0.1`
`18:51.44`	`sylvanaar`	`specify any means by which one would create a package of mods, and then go back and say if that would help resolve the !!!!!libs vs StandaloneLibraries`
`18:52.19`	`Mikma`	`http://www.biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=515`
`18:52.28`	`sylvanaar`	`Iceroth: you know you are defeating your own arguement`
`18:52.42`	`Iceroth`	`<-- was trying to be sarcastic`
`18:52.47`	`Iceroth`	`<-- fails apparently`
`18:53.28`	`pastamancer`	`sylvanaar: I guess that would work`
`18:53.52`	`pastamancer`	`Iceroth: I only use Ace because I'm too stupid to write my own slashcommand handler!`
`18:54.12`	`pastamancer`	`;)`
`18:54.18`	`sylvanaar`	`is there any packaging solution (manifests, svn folders, etc) that people could agree on?`
`18:54.38`	`Iceroth`	`pastamancer, yea, that was the main reason for me to pick ace2 as well`
`18:54.51`	`sylvanaar`	`Iceroth: yes but your statement made it unclear as to which side you are on`
`18:55.02`	`KarlThePagan`	`. /comfort pastamancer - I peeked at the ace code to write my slash commands ;)`
`18:55.18`	`CIA-17`	`03ag 07TBC * r17327 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/layouts/ABF.lua:`
`18:55.18`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames`
`18:55.18`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:56.11`	`usz`	`pastamancer, well i used to have my own slash command handler which even was allowing partial matches for commands, still Ace2 offers so much more and above all unified addon framework`
`18:56.37`	`mjc`	`Tekkub: aboot ?`
`18:56.44`	`Tekkub`	`meh?`
`18:57.22`	`mjc`	Neronix`out: asdfg
`18:58.24`	`Iceroth`	`sylvanaar, i assumed most in this channel would know i'm the author of icehud (=which uses ace2 :) but apparently i need to update it more often so that CIA can spam my name! :)`
`18:58.47`	`Antiarc`	`Odd. Is there a problem with the wowace SVN?`
`18:58.51`	`sylvanaar`	`Iceroth: no - my point was more subltle`
`18:58.51`	`pastamancer`	`icewhat? :p`
`18:58.59`	`Antiarc`	`Fetching external item into 'Libs/AceAddon-2.0'`
`18:58.59`	`Antiarc`	`svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/17327'`
`18:58.59`	`Antiarc`	`svn: No such revision 17327`
`18:59.12`	`CIA-17`	`03jerry * r17328 10AceBonus/Core.lua:`
`18:59.12`	`CIA-17`	`AceBonus:`
`18:59.12`	`CIA-17`	`_ really fix revision strings`
`18:59.33`	ag`	`Zip script is creating packages without libs`
`18:59.36`	`pastamancer`	`look like you got caught between commits`
`18:59.37`	ag`	`:((((((((`
`18:59.38`	`Antiarc`	`And that commit fixed it.`
`18:59.45`	`mjc`	`~seen neronix`
`19:00.25`	`purl`	`neronix <i=neronix@user-544494fe.lns5-c10.dsl.pol.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 10m 24s ago, saying: '"The account management page just stopped working mysteriously!"'.`
`19:00.25`	`mjc`	`anyone have that cats link he linked this morning ?`
`19:00.26`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com)`
`19:00.26`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ`
`19:00.26`	`mjc`	`wb ck`
`19:00.52`	`Silviu-`	`AceBonus will be ItemBonusses ? :>`
`19:02.43`	`sylvanaar`	`Iceroth: it just wasnt clear if you meant existing non-ace libraries or just ace`
`19:03.47`	`Tekkub`	`do bagslots start at 0 or 1?`
`19:03.54`	`Iceroth`	`ah.. well, if the lib is well written and does the job, i don't mind if it's ace or not`
`19:03.54`	`Tekkub`	`I know bags start at 0`
`19:04.26`	`usz`	`12�11Tekkub12� inventoryBags = 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 bankBags = BANK_CONTAINER, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10`
`19:04.36`	`usz`	`ow neos coloring kicked in`
`19:04.48`	ag`	`somebody fix zip script libraries`
`19:04.55`	`Tekkub`	`slots, not bags`
`19:05.01`	`usz`	`Tekkub, sec`
`19:05.14`	`JoshBorke`	`whoa, color o.O`
`19:05.24`	`Tekkub`	`starts at 1`
`19:05.26`	`Tekkub`	`nevermind`
`19:05.36`	`usz`	`idd at 1`
`19:06.49`	`sylvanaar`	`ok so suggestions for a format for package definition? ie refering to a group of mods as one mod`
`19:08.12`	`sylvanaar`	`example: ##X-PartOf: <packagename>, added to the TOC`
`19:08.33`	`Mikma`	`http://tom.hanks.swellserver.com/news/top_stories/actor_new_zealand.php`
`19:09.10`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight__ (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com)`
`19:09.10`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight__] by ChanServ`
`19:09.21`	`KarlThePagan`	`sylvanaar: X-AddonSuite, X-Package ?`
`19:10.33`	`KarlThePagan`	`imo "AddonSuite" is fairly obvious`
`19:10.55`	`Mikma`	`http://britney.spears.swellserver.com/news/top_stories/internetlaunch.php`
`19:10.58`	`KarlThePagan`	`but maybe not the intended purpose`
`19:13.09`	`Antiarc`	`inventoryBags maybe should also include the keyring, which is -2.`
`19:13.37`	`Antiarc`	`Or is KEYRING_CONTAINER`
`19:14.16`	`JoshBorke`	`purl, make all`
`19:14.18`	`purl`	make: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop.
`19:14.25`	`JoshBorke`	`~literal make`
`19:15.58`	`haste`	`purl, make install`
`19:16.00`	`purl`	make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.
`19:16.14`	`pastamancer`	`~make -h`
`19:16.15`	`purl`	make: *** No rule to make target `-h'. Stop.
`19:17.19`	`haste`	`~man make`
`19:17.35`	`haste`	`aaw :(`
`19:18.11`	`AKX`	`Mikma, guess what I'm doing during MC?`
`19:18.35`	`haste`	`fapping?`
`19:18.57`	`AKX`	`No.`
`19:18.59`	`AKX`	`Coding DreamChat.`
`19:19.14`	`AKX`	`Fapping I reserve for Zul'Gurub.`
`19:19.14`	`Mikma`	`AKX: fapping would have been my guess too actually`
`19:19.37`	`Mikma`	`YAY Schimanski from tv today!`
`19:19.51`	`Mikma`	`23.05, MTV3! AKX don't miss it!`
`19:20.08`	`AKX`	`What?`
`19:21.12`	`mjc`	purl: make `ls`
`19:21.13`	`purl`	make: *** No rule to make target ``ls`'. Stop.
`19:21.17`	`mjc`	`dammit.`
`19:21.21`	`mjc`	`purl: ls`
`19:21.22`	`purl`	`bash: ls: permission denied`
`19:21.25`	`mjc`	`haha`
`19:21.27`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`19:21.36`	`mjc`	`purl: touch foo`
`19:21.37`	`purl`	`This is Fendor's pleasure only`
`19:21.37`	`kergoth`	`~factinfo CMD: make (.*?)`
`19:21.37`	`purl`	`cmd: make (.*?) -- last modified at Tue Jan 21 04:09:46 2003 by kergoth!~kergoth@dsl081-228-056.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net; it has been requested 108 times, last by mjc, 24s ago.`
`19:21.42`	`kergoth`	`:P`
`19:21.48`	`Mikma`	`~schimanski`
`19:22.01`	`Mikma`	`stupid bot :P`
`19:22.04`	`mjc`	`kergoth: haha.`
`19:22.09`	`mjc`	`~literal make`
`19:22.16`	`mjc`	`blah.`
`19:22.17`	`kergoth`	`~literal cmd: make (.*?)`
`19:22.18`	`purl`	"cmd: make (.?)" is "($1): <reply> make: ** No rule to make target `$1'. Stop."
`19:22.22`	`kergoth`	`factoids with arguments are special`
`19:22.24`	`mjc`	`hahaha.`
`19:22.33`	`mjc`	`kergoth: sick bastard.`
`19:22.41`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`19:22.47`	`AKX`	`so Mikma, I'm writing message sending for DC ;)`
`19:22.54`	`Mikma`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6tz_George`
`19:22.56`	`mjc`	`purl: make raid`
`19:22.57`	`purl`	make: *** No rule to make target `raid'. Stop.
`19:23.00`	`Mikma`	`AKX: neat :)`
`19:23.17`	`Mikma`	`G�tz George (born July 23, 1938 in Berlin, real name G�tz Schulz) is a German actor, son of actor couple Berta Drews and Heinrich George. His arguably best-known role is that of Duisburg commissar Horst Schimanski in the TV crime series Tatort.`
`19:23.24`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel 07TBC * r17329 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (5 files):`
`19:23.24`	`CIA-17`	`Bartender3:`
`19:23.24`	`CIA-17`	`- Bar1 now uses the keybindings of the Actionbar`
`19:23.24`	`CIA-17`	`- the other bars will have their seperate keybinding tool, maybe something like trinity uses or something new .. dunno yet`
`19:23.24`	`CIA-17`	`- oh and i enabled the full 10 bars, with 4 disabled by default - still no config to set it up`
`19:23.24`	`Mikma`	`Schimanski!`
`19:23.26`	`CIA-17`	`- internal changes`
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`19:24.38`	`KarlThePagan`	`zomg yay 10 bars in bartender <3 <3 <3`
`19:24.44`	`KarlThePagan`	`finally i can delete flexbar`
`19:25.35`	`Kalamadi`	`Meh. I still can't use anything except Flexbar because of how I play >_<`
`19:25.35`	`Silviu-`	Have a question about BigWigs, so if some ppl in our raid stil have versions ~9k they can sync wrong and mess our bars too the ones who have latest versions ? or the only disavantage is that they don`t see new bars
`19:26.28`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: lol :)`
`19:27.06`	`sylvanaar`	`KarlThePagan: Ok so is using a TOC file in that way a good method for creating addon packages?`
`19:27.56`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: whats so lol? :)`
`19:28.02`	`KarlThePagan`	`since the toc X- stuff is available to Lua I would think so`
`19:28.14`	`KarlThePagan`	`that way you could enable/disable the whole suite right?`
`19:28.40`	`sylvanaar`	`right`
`19:28.48`	`mjc`	`Silviu-: make the dumbasses upgrade`
`19:28.49`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: 10 bars. that will freak people out. don't tell it to folks at forums`
`19:28.51`	`KarlThePagan`	`I took over LeeroyHillCatsPower and I wanted to break down the sounds into subpackages, but that made some people complain about having 7 mods to enable/disable`
`19:29.08`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: read my first post, i edited it and said it there`
`19:29.16`	`Silviu-`	Omg now i`m arguing with them, they just say "but my bigwigs works, why should i update" ...
`19:29.17`	`Mikma`	`oh no`
`19:29.26`	`KarlThePagan`	`it would be awesome if in an addon menu that it would have a tree structure to hide all the subpackages`
`19:29.27`	`Mikma`	`you're doomed. and you just dig your own grave`
`19:29.31`	`mjc`	`Silviu-: features + bugfixes`
`19:29.44`	`sylvanaar`	`Silviu-: you live in the real world, people here wont understand you`
`19:29.50`	`Silviu-`	`^^`
`19:30.07`	`sylvanaar`	`KarlThePagan: thats what im trying to make`
`19:30.28`	`mjc`	`Silviu-: this is why I like to run my own raids when I can`
`19:30.37`	`mjc`	`Silviu-: "upgrade or get the fuck out of my raid"`
`19:30.57`	`sylvanaar`	`^^`
`19:31.03`	`KarlThePagan`	`sylvanaar cool`
`19:31.18`	`Silviu-`	`mjc come in my raid pls :)`
`19:31.27`	`mjc`	`EU?`
`19:31.29`	`mjc`	`no thanks.`
`19:31.33`	`Silviu-`	`Yes ;-)`
`19:31.41`	`KarlThePagan`	`after using cosmos since I started playing I'm getting more interested in starting over with some slimmer addons`
`19:31.48`	`mjc`	`at least US servers there isn't a language barrier`
`19:31.51`	`KarlThePagan`	`maybe I can get AL to defect ;)`
`19:32.06`	`Tekkub`	`good luck`
`19:32.14`	`Tekkub`	`He thinks I hate him`
`19:32.19`	`Silviu-`	mjc well i play on a german realm but i don`t know german so good :)
`19:32.20`	`mjc`	`Silviu-: I can barely tolerate mashing incompetent english speakers into doing what they need to do, let alone someone who has a hard time with english.`
`19:32.24`	`Tekkub`	`I don't really, I just hate his code`
`19:32.28`	`Silviu-`	`They all speak in english with me :>`
`19:32.32`	`sylvanaar`	`KarlThePagan: cosmos is fine if you turn off the addons you dont use`
`19:32.44`	`Silviu-`	`Yes, i agree`
`19:32.46`	`mjc`	`Silviu-: I speak enough french and german to know what people are saying`
`19:33.01`	`Silviu-`	`mjc altough my native is neighter english or german`
`19:33.06`	`Silviu-`	i`m from Romania
`19:33.06`	`KarlThePagan`	`I told him the best open source projects aren't filled with polite people ;)`
`19:33.23`	`KarlThePagan`	`like debian - best linux, not the most personable people ;)`
`19:33.33`	`mjc`	`Silviu-: that's how I knew english is not your first language :)`
`19:33.42`	`Silviu-`	`;-)`
`19:34.03`	`mjc`	`living in czechoslovakia ?`
`19:34.07`	`Silviu-`	`No`
`19:34.10`	`Silviu-`	`romania`
`19:34.15`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
`19:34.18`	`mjc`	`your isp is .cz`
`19:34.25`	`KarlThePagan`	`close enough`
`19:34.35`	`Silviu-`	Yes i know ;-) it`s a hosting company i have access too
`19:34.40`	`mjc`	`aha.`
`19:34.49`	`*** join/#wowace JoshBork1 (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)`
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`19:35.22`	`sylvanaar`	`KarlThePagan: i suppose i'll just start with the base case of 0 name collisions`
`19:36.39`	`KarlThePagan`	`coo, I don't have complete thoughts on this but little things floating about`
`19:36.54`	`KarlThePagan`	`like the differene between a package which has interdependencies within it and one without`
`19:37.21`	`KarlThePagan`	`the previous might be treated as a single mod with plugins... the second is like a full addon suite`
`19:37.29`	`KarlThePagan`	`but I don't know that you can make hard rules about that`
`19:37.38`	`KarlThePagan`	`many counterexamples fill my head so keep it simple :0`
`19:38.18`	`KarlThePagan`	`Tekkub AL will learn that code isn't personal`
`19:38.24`	`KarlThePagan`	`eventually ;)`
`19:38.27`	`KarlThePagan`	`took me a few years`
`19:39.24`	`Tekkub`	`hehe`
`19:39.30`	`KarlThePagan`	`my familliarity extends to guildchat mostly, I don't hangout on cosmosui or anything`
`19:39.39`	`Tekkub`	`it's just that his code is so HUGE`
`19:40.17`	`KarlThePagan`	`coming from java I also dislike that about many lua mods`
`19:40.37`	`KarlThePagan`	`cleanly defined objects make me happy`
`19:40.47`	`Industrial`	`AceOO will make you happy`
`19:40.50`	`Industrial`	`probably`
`19:40.53`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea I've started`
`19:40.58`	`KarlThePagan`	`FuBar etc`
`19:41.29`	`Tekkub`	`if done right lua can be very clean`
`19:41.42`	`KarlThePagan`	`also from java... i'm very very very familliar with GC-dependant optimization (thrashing etc)`
`19:41.53`	`sylvanaar`	`AceOO is great, but does not make me happy with Lua's OO supoort`
`19:41.57`	`JoshBorke`	`thank god we have incremental GC in 5.1`
`19:42.08`	`Antiarc`	`Incremental GC is so very nice`
`19:42.13`	`Tekkub`	`yea GC is easy here.. don't make tables or functions unless you have to`
`19:42.15`	`Tekkub`	`:)`
`19:42.27`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea if 2.0.1 wasn't so close... I would have to write a mod to stop GC from happening during combat`
`19:42.30`	`KarlThePagan`	`it vexes me`
`19:42.50`	`Tekkub`	`hehe`
`19:43.00`	`Tekkub`	`try playing a hunter`
`19:43.08`	`KarlThePagan`	`was thinking of using bossmods to flag the start/end of an encounter and GC-ing at special points only`
`19:43.09`	`Tekkub`	`shoot stutter shoot stutter shoot stutter shoot stutter shoot stutter`
`19:43.12`	`pastamancer`	`I wish I didn't have to do Foo.prototype:Method when defining a prototype... I'd much rather do something like Foo = AceOO.Class({ OnInitialize = function () end, ... })`
`19:43.43`	`KarlThePagan`	`<-- healer`
`19:44.06`	`KarlThePagan`	`GC when the MT is at 500 life == OMG spam shield`
`19:44.26`	`Baps`	`karl: I do so love -XX:+UseParallelGC`
`19:44.27`	`Antiarc`	`You could just bind a key to invoke GC and call it during downtimes`
`19:44.38`	`Baps`	`wish LUA had a similar option`
`19:44.47`	`KarlThePagan`	`Antiarc yea i'm there`
`19:45.03`	`KarlThePagan`	`Baps we use JRockit here, lots of tuning`
`19:45.23`	`Baps`	`I work on a standalone java app that does realtime deep packet inspections`
`19:45.27`	`Baps`	`at wire speeds`
`19:45.35`	`KarlThePagan`	`ohshi you're in my industry`
`19:45.40`	`KarlThePagan`	`I'm SIM tho`
`19:45.41`	`Baps`	`so we do a lot of own tuning on the raw jvm`
`19:45.58`	`sylvanaar`	`Baps: what does java bring to the table for that application`
`19:46.33`	`Baps`	`sylv: the main things it brought was debugging ease.. stack traces on every exception, etc.`
`19:46.43`	`Baps`	`I used to do (and still do) a lot of C`
`19:46.52`	`Baps`	`and the stack traces in particular are a godsend`
`19:46.57`	`KarlThePagan`	`stacktrace > memory dumps`
`19:47.14`	`Baps`	`we do some crazy crazy things`
`19:47.19`	`sylvanaar`	`KarlThePagan: unless you have a dumpformatter`
`19:47.37`	`Baps`	`our bigger products are up to 16G of memory with more than 50% of that being dedicated to java heap`
`19:47.39`	`KarlThePagan`	`no, I'd still trather deal with a stacktrace 90% of the time`
`19:47.54`	`KarlThePagan`	`wow yea baps I'm so there`
`19:48.08`	`KarlThePagan`	`we don't muck with the jvm tho just work with BEA on that`
`19:48.22`	`sylvanaar`	`KarlThePagan: cant you just use a binary log format instead`
`19:48.26`	`Baps`	`yeah. we're an appliance`
`19:48.33`	`Baps`	`take over the whole box`
`19:48.37`	`KarlThePagan`	`same`
`19:48.52`	`KarlThePagan`	`prolly surfin our site by now lol`
`19:49.34`	`Baps`	`go180.net?`
`19:49.50`	`KarlThePagan`	`not exactly ;) there are breadcrums`
`19:50.39`	`Baps`	`damocles.com isn't the company I work for.. I generally assume most people don't IRC direct from work`
`19:51.26`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea I could shell to somewhere but it's such a bother`
`19:52.54`	`Baps`	`anyway.. back to the more relevant subject, I found that just increasing the gc interval by reducing the increasing rate helps a lot`
`19:53.29`	`Baps`	`after I dumped most of my non ace2 addons, I'm under 10 KiB/s increasing most of the time and my GCs only happen about once every 10-15 minutes`
`19:53.41`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea I'm weaning myself`
`19:53.46`	`Baps`	`tossed ctmod, titanbar, etc... started all over`
`19:53.51`	`Tekkub`	`I found that just going to TBC works better :)`
`19:54.00`	`JoshBorke`	`s/better/best/`
`19:54.13`	`KarlThePagan`	`cosmos + flexbar + ctmod + auctioneer + etc etc is really thrashing my vm`
`19:54.35`	`KarlThePagan`	`I sit at 45kbps constantly... it hurts`
`19:54.51`	`pastamancer`	`ouch`
`19:54.55`	`JoshBorke`	`KarlThePagan: i highly suggest tekSupport to identify problem mods`
`19:54.58`	`Tekkub`	`constantly? yikes`
`19:55.03`	`Baps`	`needylist and combatsentrygizmo are two of my heaviest mods left`
`19:55.05`	`JoshBorke`	`while not entirely accurate, it's nice to get an idea`
`19:55.07`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea it's disgusting`
`19:55.17`	`Baps`	`that's wheer I used to be with ctmod and titanbar`
`19:55.22`	`KarlThePagan`	`I've eliminated a few with luaprofiler but I'll try that`
`19:55.31`	`Baps`	`45 out of combat, as much as 250 in combat`
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`19:55.51`	`KarlThePagan`	`I'm considering not even supporting titan bar - especially if it's not updated for 2.0`
`19:55.51`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r17330 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:`
`19:55.51`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2 :`
`19:55.51`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:56.01`	`Kyahx`	`KarlThePagan: good idea :)`
`19:56.06`	`JoshBorke`	`Baps: combatsentrygizmo i bet is bad`
`19:56.12`	`Baps`	`I'm sure it is`
`19:56.23`	`Baps`	`but I just can't live without it yet.`
`19:56.26`	`Tekkub`	`the Tauren in the new Kalimdor loading screen is SOOOOOO high`
`19:56.43`	`Baps`	`PvP server and I need that notification that people are nearby`
`19:57.21`	`Tekkub`	`CSG is a neat addon, but needs optomized`
`19:57.51`	`Baps`	`it'll need to be completely redone for TBC`
`19:58.28`	`Baps`	`I've never used it for targeting.. just notifications.`
`19:58.39`	`Baps`	`so for my purposes, it could still be useful`
`19:58.46`	`Baps`	`but I know some people who use it for targeting`
`19:59.48`	`CIA-17`	`03xuerian * r17331 10AnchorsAway/AnchorsAway-1.0/AnchorsAway-1.0.lua: AnchorsAway: Corrected lingering translations (Drycode)`
`20:00.36`	`KarlThePagan`	`gotta redo paranoia, should be possible to guess at least class from combat spam`
`20:00.50`	`KarlThePagan`	`i need that mod`
`20:01.06`	`KarlThePagan`	`pvp server lol`
`20:01.27`	`sylvanaar`	`Baps: CSG is really bad`
`20:01.57`	`nevcairiel`	`whats CSG?`
`20:02.03`	`*** join/#wowace Jens (n=jens@unaffiliated/jens)`
`20:02.05`	`KarlThePagan`	`Combat Sentry Gizmo`
`20:02.59`	`andremar`	`The instance notes plugin for cartographer is cool`
`20:03.12`	`andremar`	`only problem is the skulls appear above the tooltop`
`20:04.28`	`sylvanaar`	`cool looking though`
`20:04.52`	`sylvanaar`	`causes too much stuttering as it updates`
`20:05.06`	`Baps`	`hmm.. CSG hasn't been updated on curse since april. I might have to adpot it`
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`20:06.24`	`sylvanaar`	`you know if you changed it so that it just listend to the combat log and watched mouseovers that would be enough`
`20:06.37`	`\|Shadow\|`	`uhh, is www.wowace.com down?`
`20:06.46`	`Tekkub`	`no`
`20:06.49`	`Baps`	`worked for me a couple minutes ago`
`20:06.51`	`mjc`	`no`
`20:07.01`	`\|Shadow\|`	`well uhh`
`20:07.05`	`\|Shadow\|`	`it doesn't like me`
`20:07.08`	`sylvanaar`	`but thats what KarlThePagan was just saying i noticed`
`20:07.10`	`\|Shadow\|`	`ahh 3rd refresh and it worked`
`20:07.11`	`\|Shadow\|`	`:P`
`20:07.33`	`pastamancer`	`hmm, do we have access to string.dump() in 2.0?`
`20:08.13`	`JoshBorke`	`pastamancer: ha! like you ever work!`
`20:08.25`	`pastamancer`	`I went two meetings today!`
`20:08.33`	`pastamancer`	`s/two/to two/`
`20:08.35`	`JoshBorke`	`well, i'd hardly call meetings work :-P`
`20:08.49`	`KarlThePagan`	`up here`
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`20:09.45`	`pastamancer`	`well, I was handling a website migration while listening to the user support team argue about features they want in a troubleticket system`
`20:10.23`	`JoshBorke`	`ooo. multi-tasking while not working, impressive! ;-D`
`20:10.52`	`pastamancer`	`it's not easy being a sysadmin!`
`20:11.04`	`JoshBorke`	`i know!`
`20:11.27`	`KarlThePagan`	`I wouldn't lol`
`20:12.12`	`Antiarc`	`How many ID slots do the TBC item links have?`
`20:12.14`	`Antiarc`	`ie, 1.12 has Hitem:(%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+)`
`20:12.19`	`Antiarc`	`4 slots`
`20:12.28`	`pastamancer`	`bah. If I didn't work with a bunch of touchy-feely hippies, I'd set mailman to auto-discard any questionable mail.`
`20:13.16`	`JoshBorke`	`Antiarc: more :-D`
`20:13.37`	`Antiarc`	`How many more is the question!`
`20:13.49`	`Antiarc`	`I want to say 9, but I'm not positive.`
`20:14.16`	`pastamancer`	`9 sounds reasonable... I don't think I've seen anything with more than 5 sockets`
`20:14.30`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea I was gonna say... 4 sockets? 5?`
`20:15.30`	`Antiarc`	`Oh well, it's drycode anyway.`
`20:15.33`	`Antiarc`	`I'll say 9 and test tonight.`
`20:15.48`	`_icetrain`	`8`
`20:15.55`	`_icetrain`	`in total`
`20:16.18`	`Antiarc`	`Thanks`
`20:16.57`	`_icetrain`	`it's 8, i tried it`
`20:17.34`	`Antiarc`	`Can I override the return value of a table's index using setmetatable?`
`20:18.00`	`pastamancer`	`.__index`
`20:18.01`	`Antiarc`	`Aha, I can.`
`20:18.02`	`pastamancer`	`I believe`
`20:18.06`	`Antiarc`	`Yup, that's it.`
`20:20.11`	`kebinusan`	`is there a slashcommand similar to /script PetDismiss() in tbc`
`20:24.57`	`AKX`	`function x:y(z) is only syntactic sugar for x.y(self,z), yes?`
`20:25.07`	`pastamancer`	`ya`
`20:25.11`	`AKX`	`Okies`
`20:26.17`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, but where does it get self from?`
`20:26.38`	`Tekkub`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:28.13`	`kebinusan`	`hmm yeah doesnt seem to work for warlocks`
`20:28.49`	`Tekkub`	`oh yea... do you have some sort of unsummon spell?`
`20:28.52`	`KarlThePagan`	`you can dismiss on live?`
`20:29.05`	`KarlThePagan`	`as warlock i mean`
`20:29.21`	`KarlThePagan`	`I don't think there's a simple way to do it`
`20:29.29`	`kebinusan`	`not really I always just /script PetDismiss() on live`
`20:29.38`	`KarlThePagan`	`does that give you a shard?`
`20:29.42`	`kebinusan`	`no`
`20:30.04`	`KarlThePagan`	`hmm, you could cast a different summon and cancel the summon`
`20:31.11`	`kebinusan`	`the pet doesnt go away in tbc until the summon completes`
`20:31.32`	`KarlThePagan`	`ohsnap`
`20:31.32`	`kebinusan`	`its a bit frustrating because if I enslave a demon and want to release it and kill it I have to basically summon an imp`
`20:32.43`	`KarlThePagan`	`would be useful if you want to re-enslave before an encounter`
`20:33.11`	`Antiarc`	`We're getting modulo in 5.1, yes?`
`20:37.52`	`Tekkub`	`uh... math.mod has always been theer`
`20:37.57`	`CIA-17`	`03flyflame * r17333 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: fixed the broken zhCN locals`
`20:40.07`	`Antiarc`	`I must be thinking of something else.`
`20:40.56`	`usz`	`hmmm, is SVN fucked now? cant even check out addon`
`20:41.03`	`usz`	`Error: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/17333'`
`20:41.03`	`usz`	`Error: No such revision 17333`
`20:43.38`	NerD`	`I have ThaddiusArrows ( LoadableOnDemand ) and I can't load it :-( Anybody can help me ?`
`20:44.13`	`KarlThePagan`	NerD` do you have a LOD manager like "SupplyAndDemand" ?
`20:44.28`	NerD`	`Nop`
`20:44.35`	`KarlThePagan`	`that would be a first step`
`20:44.37`	`haste`	`np: Arwen - Illusions`
`20:45.07`	NerD`	`Ok`
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`20:47.26`	`Tekkub`	`Thadd isn't loaded by S&D`
`20:47.30`	`Tekkub`	`it's loaded by BW`
`20:47.33`	`nevcairiel`	`thaddiusarrows should load when the thaddius module in BW is activated`
`20:47.35`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`20:47.42`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`20:47.49`	NerD`	`Nop :'( not in my ui :!(`
`20:47.53`	`Tekkub`	`guess I should rip off the zone code and add it to S&D finally eh? :)`
`20:48.08`	`ckknight`	`I took my computer in for repair today, so I don't have a comp to work with`
`20:48.16`	`ckknight`	`so I get to use CGI-IRC...`
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`20:48.21`	`Tekkub`	`BW's LoD shit hasn't been pushed to trunk yet`
`20:48.25`	`cncfanatics`	`yo all`
`20:49.42`	`Tekkub`	`why does this even have the second equip stat?`
`20:49.43`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Blood_Knight_Defender`
`20:49.56`	`Tekkub`	`just put it on the actual block value...`
`20:49.56`	`KarlThePagan`	NerD` (above notes - I was incorrect about S&D)
`20:50.28`	`Kalamadi`	`Tekkub: So it's not affected by talents or something, I guess.`
`20:50.45`	`Tekkub`	`shrug not a shield user, who fuckin knows`
`20:50.52`	`usz`	`cant check out TooltipExchange now even from SVN, is it only me or SVN fucked up?`
`20:51.00`	`Kalamadi`	`Hell, I'm a paladin and I don't know >_>`
`20:51.04`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker: pong`
`20:51.10`	`Antiarc`	`Wait for a commit, usz. It's locked between commits right now for some reason`
`20:51.17`	`Antiarc`	`Happened to me a bit ago and cleared up on the next commit.`
`20:51.47`	`usz`	`its kind of locked for 2 revisions now`
`20:51.58`	`KarlThePagan`	`Tekkub I believe it counts differently on item budget`
`20:52.01`	`KarlThePagan`	`silly system`
`20:52.09`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`20:54.16`	`Antiarc`	`Actually`
`20:54.31`	`Antiarc`	`I believe that shields have an inherent amount of block based on their AC or something similar`
`20:54.40`	`Antiarc`	`But that particular shield adds more block than a shield of that level should normally have`
`20:54.44`	`KarlThePagan`	`and that's based on ilevel`
`20:54.49`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea`
`20:55.14`	`Antiarc`	`The "inherent" shield block is "free" in the budget, so to speak`
`20:55.21`	`KarlThePagan`	`something from kalgan about warrior arena itemization having minimal amount of armor so it was "free" in the item budget`
`20:55.23`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea exactly`
`20:55.24`	`Antiarc`	`The Equip: block costs points from the budget`
`20:55.40`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: What's this new ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler thing I see in AceComm? Are there any docs on it? I was unable to find anything on the UI and Macros WoW forum.`
`20:56.16`	`Antiarc`	`It's the same with items with abnormally high AC, IIRC`
`20:56.26`	`KarlThePagan`	`and weapon dps`
`20:56.32`	`Antiarc`	`But that works backwards`
`20:56.36`	`KarlThePagan`	`tru`
`20:56.39`	`Antiarc`	`Well, for caster items.`
`20:56.47`	`KarlThePagan`	`I've had many arguments with guild druids about The End of Dreams ;)`
`20:56.52`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: question.... trying to make a CG extension to do resistance sets automagically`
`20:56.52`	`Antiarc`	`Heheheh.`
`20:56.57`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, you extract the FrameXML. basically, ChatFrame_OnEvent calls multiple functions, one of them being ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler.`
`20:57.01`	`KarlThePagan`	`"omg feral == drood only"`
`20:57.28`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: thinking best is to scan all attributes and allow you to pick to maximize one or two resistances`
`20:57.38`	`mjc`	`KarlThePagan: I <3 feral`
`20:57.43`	`Antiarc`	`The argument I've heard in my guild is "It's a far better upgrade than druids get anywhere else, but paladins have X, Y, and Z, so hands off plz ;_;"`
`20:57.47`	`KarlThePagan`	`I <3 smite ;)`
`20:58.00`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: alright, thanks, does it do what I want? i.e. can it suppress messages?`
`20:58.01`	`KarlThePagan`	`paladins have better... priests don't`
`20:58.03`	`KarlThePagan`	`:(`
`20:58.07`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: ah`
`20:58.12`	`Antiarc`	`Isn't End of Dreams 2h?`
`20:58.15`	`KarlThePagan`	`nope`
`20:58.16`	`Antiarc`	`Or am I thinking of something else?`
`20:58.18`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: I've been wanting to do that for a long time.`
`20:58.19`	`Antiarc`	`Oh, wow.`
`20:58.20`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: no idea how to implement this though.`
`20:58.31`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: There are several ways to do it.`
`20:58.35`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: And that's the problem.`
`20:58.36`	`Antiarc`	`CG = ?`
`20:58.41`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: I can't decide for myself which one is the best.`
`20:58.51`	`mjc`	`what's the least expensive memory-wise ?`
`20:58.56`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: Give me a few minutes to get tea etc, just got back from work.`
`20:58.59`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, yes, it can suppress messages.`
`20:59.01`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: I have some ideas.`
`20:59.03`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: thanks alot`
`20:59.12`	`vhaarr`	`I'll extract the FrameXML then.`
`20:59.37`	`Antiarc`	`<--- rogue main, only cares mildly about caster weapons :)`
`20:59.44`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, and due to it being separated from config events and such, you can make timestamps just on your real chat messages and such, for example.`
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`21:00.08`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: kk.`
`21:02.44`	`CIA-17`	`03flyflame * r17334 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: update Core.lua zhCN local`
`21:04.56`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: ah, so I take it there are different handlers, then, I'll take a look.`
`21:05.18`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, ChatFrame_OnEvent can still be hooked, as it controls the three other handlers.`
`21:05.41`	`vhaarr`	`yeah, I see`
`21:05.47`	`usz`	`hmmm still cant check out, this is strange, anyway cya in few hours, lets hope problem solves itself`
`21:06.03`	`ckknight`	`good move on their part, really.`
`21:06.31`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, also, their fix was to use the code that we provided, which is very funny. Granted, they added more parentheses and semicolons`
`21:06.34`	`Saroz`	`ZOMG, AceBonus ftw`
`21:06.35`	`Saroz`	`gogo`
`21:06.55`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: :P`
`21:07.01`	`vhaarr`	`Saroz: The name ftl, though.`
`21:07.05`	`Saroz`	`hrrrrrm`
`21:07.07`	`vhaarr`	`I just posted that he should rename.`
`21:07.08`	`Saroz`	`yea maybe`
`21:07.11`	`Saroz`	`yea`
`21:07.13`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: wake up :D`
`21:07.52`	`ckknight`	`don't start addons with Ace!`
`21:07.56`	`ckknight`	`AceBonus ftl.`
`21:07.59`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Don't know if you've seen http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3085.0;topicseen or not. I haven't confirmed the reports.`
`21:08.12`	`Mikma`	`AceMasterOfUniverse`
`21:08.20`	`ckknight`	`MotU`
`21:08.38`	`Saroz`	`wowace.com is down`
`21:08.55`	`ckknight`	`yea, it seems down.`
`21:09.06`	`vhaarr`	`works here`
`21:09.28`	`ckknight`	`weird, works now`
`21:09.36`	`Saroz`	`yup`
`21:09.37`	`Saroz`	`works now`
`21:09.42`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, I can't test or change that till I get home.`
`21:10.02`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Not my reports, I just noticed them and thought I'd notify you.`
`21:10.02`	`Saroz`	`down now`
`21:10.08`	`ckknight`	`alright.`
`21:10.30`	`Fudge`	`pastamancer, any chance of getting Grid to show certain select 'debuffs' instead of the general 'school of magic' the debuff is under?`
`21:11.11`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: I'm still thinking :P`
`21:12.27`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: Do you plan on doing autosets for resists or other stats as well?`
`21:14.47`	`Mikma`	`yeah, wowace.com is down now`
`21:15.05`	`Tekkub`	`no it's not`
`21:15.26`	`Mikma`	`your an asshat and i won't listen to you.`
`21:15.29`	`Mikma`	`it's dooooooown!`
`21:16.38`	`pastamancer`	`Fudge: you should look at the config menu`
`21:17.10`	`CIA-17`	`03mikma 07TBC * r17335 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Core.lua: Bartender3: added ModuleMixins`
`21:17.22`	`*** join/#wowace Gamefaq (i=Gamefaq@pD9E62E60.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`21:17.42`	`ckknight`	`hallo, Gamefaq`
`21:18.02`	`Elkano`	`teh evil Germanz are coming... ;)`
`21:18.15`	`Gamefaq`	`hi ck`
`21:18.27`	`Gamefaq`	`evil nooo`
`21:19.41`	`Industrial`	`en mijn vaders fiets wil ik ook terug`
`21:19.42`	`Industrial`	`MoonWolf: --^ :P`
`21:19.42`	`Elkano`	`sounds netherlandish`
`21:19.42`	`CIA-17`	`03mikma * r17336 10/branches/Bartender3_Dreamlayout/ (. Bartender3_Dreamlayout.toc Dreamlayout.lua): Bartender3_Dreamlayout3: PoC, Initial import.`
`21:19.42`	`ckknight`	`Gamefaq, face up to it. The only country more evil would be like... Albania`
`21:19.42`	`ckknight`	`no one likes them.`
`21:20.04`	`Mikma`	`ofc it's evul country, they have Schimanski`
`21:20.13`	`Gamefaq`	`rofl`
`21:20.19`	`Elkano`	`well, actualy it would be America ;) thanks to war in Iraq you are now the #1 hated country`
`21:20.25`	`Industrial`	`Elkano: it is :P`
`21:20.42`	`pastamancer`	`only people that hate freedom hate america :p`
`21:20.56`	`Elkano`	`so, to stay on context, ever heard of the film project "worst case scenario"?`
`21:23.18`	`mjc`	`vhaar: I'm thinking, build a cache of all items and their stats, then provide a list of stats to maximize and it picks the highest..`
`21:23.42`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: I'm thinking a different approach`
`21:23.44`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: eg... FR only, FR and survivability, FR and DPS, etc.`
`21:23.49`	`ckknight`	`Elkano, but what about Borat? He said Khazakstan supported our War of Terror...`
`21:23.55`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: walking two arrays is cake`
`21:24.11`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: I'm thinking dynamic sets, but the problem is you have no set management then.`
`21:24.18`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: I'm not sure if that's a bad thing or not.`
`21:24.30`	`vhaarr`	`with things like a Banker module.`
`21:25.47`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: Basically, with dynamic sets, you would not save anything, you would just add a menu that has items like "Fire Resistance", and when you click it, it just equips the gear in your backpack that would provide the most FR.`
`21:25.53`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: And doesn't save anything.`
`21:26.07`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: well`
`21:26.38`	`mjc`	`if you keep a cache of what attributes the gear has (mages won't have AP gear), you don't have to iterate through it every equip...`
`21:26.53`	`mjc`	`not saved across a /rl`
`21:26.59`	`vhaarr`	`ah, indeed`
`21:27.02`	`vhaarr`	`well cache it or not`
`21:27.03`	`mjc`	`and that lest you pick any possible stat`
`21:27.08`	`mjc`	`*lets`
`21:27.12`	`mjc`	`or any number of them`
`21:27.25`	`vhaarr`	`so does my approach`
`21:27.35`	`vhaarr`	`you do "max FR", then "max +hit"`
`21:27.48`	`vhaarr`	`and you'd get the best combination for FR and +hit, with +hit prioritized`
`21:28.28`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r17337 10SpecialEventsEmbed/ (4 files in 4 dirs): SpecialEventsEmbed - WoW 2.0 updates: Keys and Breath modules will no longer load in 2.0, they are now depreciated by Blizzard functions/events`
`21:28.58`	`mjc`	`brb`
`21:29.06`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r17338 10GratuityLib/GratuityLib.toc: GratuityLib - TOC >> 20000`
`21:29.10`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: correct, exaclty what I as thinking`
`21:29.38`	`mjc`	`but taht way you build your list of attributes based on gear in the inventory instead of all possible attrs`
`21:29.57`	`Neebler`	`http://www.amazon.com/Dora-Aquapet-Explorer-Wild-Planet/dp/B000IM15QI/sr=8-1/qid=1163704307/ref=sr_1_1/104-1413059-2779909?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games`
`21:30.08`	`Neebler`	`I think I'll buy my girlfriend one for christmas`
`21:30.21`	`Neebler`	`dora like to "explore"`
`21:31.01`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: No, no.`
`21:31.06`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: The menu would be static.`
`21:31.17`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: And nothing would be processed until you actually click something.`
`21:31.58`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r17339 10MountMe/ (Core.lua MountMe.toc):`
`21:31.58`	`CIA-17`	`MountMe`
`21:31.58`	`CIA-17`	`- TOC >> 20000`
`21:31.58`	`CIA-17`	`- Core will now use a different :Now() if IsSwimming is available (I.E. the user is in WoW 2.0). However this function is causing block errors at the moment, thanks to Blizzy protecting UseContainerItem at all times...`
`21:33.01`	`Fisker`	`niceee`
`21:33.02`	`Fisker`	`:<`
`21:33.04`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r17340 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0.toc: PeriodicTable-2.0 - TOC >> 20000`
`21:33.41`	`mjc`	`back.`
`21:34.29`	`*** join/#wowace thalie (n=rollo@63.250.141.74)`
`21:34.50`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: /girl fire resist, agility`
`21:35.23`	`vhaarr`	`what? :P`
`21:36.00`	`vhaarr`	`"ClosetGnome, the secret of women." o_O`
`21:36.06`	`nymbia`	`lol`
`21:36.07`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: was thinking of calling it CG_OCDGirl, or something`
`21:36.30`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: okay :P`
`21:36.41`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: it's your addon, go wild!`
`21:36.44`	`mjc`	`I don't have a catchy name yet, but /girl works`
`21:36.54`	`vhaarr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:36.58`	`mjc`	`haha`
`21:36.59`	`vhaarr`	`it picks clothes for you`
`21:37.01`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`21:37.01`	`nymbia`	`lol`
`21:37.03`	`thalie`	`hahaha`
`21:37.05`	`mjc`	`hahah.`
`21:37.13`	`mjc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:37.19`	`vhaarr`	`^^`
`21:37.32`	`mjc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:37.42`	`mjc`	`or /mom bathroom`
`21:37.43`	`mjc`	`:D`
`21:37.47`	`nymbia`	`rofl`
`21:37.48`	`vhaarr`	`"I quit smoking with ClosetGnome."`
`21:37.51`	`vhaarr`	`anyone want t-shirts?`
`21:37.53`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`21:38.25`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: ClosetGnome_Pyschiatrist`
`21:38.31`	`vhaarr`	`hehe`
`21:38.40`	`mjc`	`CG_ImaginaryFriend!`
`21:38.42`	`mjc`	`:D`
`21:38.44`	`vhaarr`	`lol`
`21:39.03`	`mjc`	`man coming up with names is more interesting than writing the mod :(`
`21:39.06`	`*** join/#wowace Delemoose (n=techjoe_@res24853.rh.rit.edu)`
`21:39.14`	`vhaarr`	`I made the quip thing into a function, so someone can create a 3rd party addon that hooks it and displays all kind of crap`
`21:39.29`	`Fisker`	`vhaarr btw :o`
`21:39.31`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: ClosetGnome_Autosets`
`21:39.35`	`mjc`	`CG_Therapist`
`21:39.39`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`21:39.42`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker: yes, ping`
`21:39.44`	`vhaarr`	`pong`
`21:39.50`	`Fisker`	`somehow the aq40 start mobs can get their timers cleared when skeram dies?`
`21:40.14`	`vhaarr`	`nooooot that I know of.`
`21:40.23`	`vhaarr`	`hm`
`21:40.26`	`nymbia`	`ClosetGnome_WheresMyPants`
`21:40.29`	`thalie`	`haha`
`21:40.32`	`Fisker`	`sounds nice`
`21:40.45`	`mjc`	`CG_WearsThePantsInThisRelationship!`
`21:40.52`	`nymbia`	`rofl`
`21:41.05`	`nevcairiel`	`spam incoming`
`21:41.14`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker: That would be really strange if it did.`
`21:41.21`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel 07TBC * r17341 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (4 files):`
`21:41.21`	`CIA-17`	`Bartender3:`
`21:41.21`	`CIA-17`	`- Basic code for handling of the special bars ( bag/stance/micromenu )`
`21:41.21`	`CIA-17`	`- StanceBar is movable now.`
`21:41.21`	`CIA-17`	`- more internal changes`
`21:41.22`	`CIA-17`	`- remember, this is NOT ready for any use whatsoever`
`21:41.36`	`nymbia`	`you call that a spammy commit?! psh!`
`21:41.59`	`Fisker`	`duh vhaarr`
`21:42.07`	`Fisker`	`i meant that as a "Is there somehow"`
`21:42.07`	`vhaarr`	`? :S`
`21:42.08`	`Fisker`	`:P`
`21:42.24`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker: Do you want it to do that, or are you telling me it happened and you don't know why?`
`21:43.14`	`mjc`	`Fisker: duh, say what you mean instead of expecting everyone to understand your nonsensical babbling`
`21:43.52`	`Fisker`	`yeah as i said`
`21:43.54`	`Fisker`	`duh`
`21:44.07`	`Fisker`	`I'm in a raid :P`
`21:44.10`	`mjc`	`tl,dr`
`21:44.23`	`Fisker`	`But yeah i meant i would like to have timers reset when skeram dies if that's possible`
`21:44.28`	`Fisker`	`well the sentinels ones`
`21:44.53`	`ckknight`	`well, I have to go to my complimentary free lunch and photoshoot with the president of the university.`
`21:44.57`	`Fisker`	`oh and STFU, GTFO and etc. mjc`
`21:45.07`	`mjc`	`and etc`
`21:45.11`	`mjc`	`?`
`21:45.11`	`ckknight`	`cya all later`
`21:45.12`	`mjc`	`haha`
`21:45.16`	`mjc`	`cya ckk`
`21:46.51`	`Tekkub`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:47.15`	`mjc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:48.31`	`Tekkub`	`S&D, Core.lua, lines 66-72`
`21:48.33`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`21:49.55`	`mjc`	`Tekkub: S&D needs a way to implement an aceoptions table for mods so that I don't keep stumbling over the slash commands for a mod that isn't loaded (`
`21:49.57`	`mjc`	`:(`
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`21:50.27`	`Tekkub`	`...erm... yea`
`21:50.37`	`Tekkub`	`I don't want to even think about that shit`
`21:50.42`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel 07TBC * r17342 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_BarClass.lua: Bartender3: some stuff you learn in university is good, re-use the code if youve already implemented it .. abstraction ftw!`
`21:50.53`	`Tekkub`	`I hate that stubby has slashes for addons that aren't loaded`
`21:51.09`	`mjc`	`Tekkub: I find it useful`
`21:51.23`	`pastamancer`	`haha, LuaYacc`
`21:51.29`	`Tekkub`	`you would`
`21:52.19`	`mjc`	`?`
`21:52.44`	`vhaarr`	`I like that as well.`
`21:53.04`	`*** join/#wowace steino_ (n=stein-iv@ti531210a080-5669.bb.online.no)`
`21:53.33`	`mjc`	`I'd rather it just load the mod if you try to /command it`
`21:53.41`	`mjc`	`and pass the args to the mod`
`21:54.25`	`CIA-17`	`03mikma * r17343 10/branches/Bartender3_Dreamlayout/Dreamlayout.lua: Bartender3_Dreamlayout: Changeable background color, modify the .lua`
`21:54.33`	`Tekkub`	`load, sure could be done... pass args... I don't wanna fuck with that :P`
`21:54.42`	`Tekkub`	`I guess it could be done`
`21:54.59`	`Tekkub`	`or is any attempt to execute a chat command protected now?`
`21:57.05`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel 07TBC * r17344 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_BarClass.lua: Bartender3: more internal layout changes to make the actionbars and specialbars even more alike.`
`22:00.16`	`*** join/#wowace Kyahx (n=kyahx@144.13.213.102)`
`22:03.12`	`haste`	`combat dagger, hoo~`
`22:03.15`	`haste`	`time to pull aggro`
`22:03.55`	`*** join/#wowace steino (n=stein-iv@ti531210a080-6672.bb.online.no)`
`22:08.49`	`Gngsk`	`haste, enjoy it while you can`
`22:08.58`	`haste`	`while I can :o ?`
`22:09.19`	`Gngsk`	`2.0 weapon skill nerf really effects combat daggers builds`
`22:09.43`	`*** join/#wowace malreth (n=triti@cpe-72-179-20-11.austin.res.rr.com)`
`22:11.30`	`haste`	`I haven't looked into how much it will effect the dps, compared to swords for example`
`22:11.37`	`haste`	`any theorycraft on that avaible :) ?`
`22:12.10`	`Mikma`	`haste: stop raiding and code stuff`
`22:12.43`	`*** join/#wowace malreth (n=triti@cpe-72-179-20-11.austin.res.rr.com)`
`22:12.58`	`steino`	`Gngsk: it effects sword just as much`
`22:13.16`	`*** join/#wowace JoshBork1 (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)`
`22:13.23`	`steino`	`Mikma: trust me, haste is coding more then he is raiding`
`22:13.34`	`steino`	`Every ready check its like`
`22:13.37`	`Antiarc`	`It heavily effects all combat builds.`
`22:13.38`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r17345 10Kyubi/ (Core.lua Kyubi.toc):`
`22:13.38`	`CIA-17`	`Kyubi no Kitsune`
`22:13.38`	`CIA-17`	`- TOC >> 20000`
`22:13.38`	`CIA-17`	`- Can now handle any number of args in WoW 2.0 (old code still exists for Live)`
`22:13.39`	`steino`	`"haste is afk.. someone poke him"`
`22:13.48`	`Antiarc`	`Basically anything with DW got screwed up the bee-hind.`
`22:14.00`	`haste`	`no no no no no!`
`22:14.03`	`haste`	`It's more like this:`
`22:14.09`	`haste`	`Radagast has initiated a ready check.`
`22:14.13`	`haste`	`You were AFK for a ready check.`
`22:14.17`	`nymbia`	`lol`
`22:14.19`	`haste`	`"Otravi?!"`
`22:14.23`	`haste`	`"I'm here!"`
`22:14.30`	`Antiarc`	`Also, WEx has now truly replaced Throwing Weapon Specialization. :D`
`22:14.37`	`mjc`	`gcc version 4.3.0 20061117 (experimental)`
`22:14.42`	`mjc`	`here goes nothin.`
`22:14.45`	`Antiarc`	`Do you miss ready checks due to reloading your UI, too?`
`22:14.53`	`steino`	`No`
`22:14.57`	`haste`	`that also`
`22:15.00`	`steino`	`Its more his Tinypad covering it`
`22:15.01`	`mjc`	`yes, you can.`
`22:15.03`	`Antiarc`	`Hahah, nice`
`22:15.08`	`haste`	`It's a combination of tinypad, scite and reloading`
`22:15.13`	`Kyahx`	`Mikma: is the Bartender3 folder locked? Or am I just retarded?`
`22:15.18`	`haste`	`oh, and the lua console`
`22:15.40`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx: retarded propably`
`22:15.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`need a way to get the ready check sound to play while alt-tabed imho`
`22:15.55`	`Kyahx`	`:( I can't commit a fix it seems`
`22:16.54`	`nymbia`	`whats it say?`
`22:17.11`	`Kyahx`	`svn: Commit failed (details follow):`
`22:17.12`	`Kyahx`	`svn: MKACTIVITY of '/wowace/!svn/act/2cd8d6af-7822-0410-9e57-f943c1d89195': Could not parse response status line. (http://svn.wowace.com)`
`22:17.12`	`Kyahx`	`error (1)`
`22:17.22`	`nymbia`	`wrong server ;)`
`22:17.32`	`nymbia`	`dev.wowace is the only one you can write to`
`22:17.47`	`Kyahx`	`boggle`
`22:17.51`	`Kyahx`	`I apparently missed the memo`
`22:18.13`	`Mikma`	`hehe`
`22:18.19`	`Mikma`	`welcome back anyway`
`22:18.22`	`Kyahx`	`ty`
`22:18.29`	`Kyahx`	`:)`
`22:18.36`	`Mikma`	`http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/ctrlaltdel/820/20061117.jpg`
`22:18.37`	`Mikma`	`http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/pennyarcade/921/20061117.jpg`
`22:18.52`	`malreth`	`i've got a question for you peeps`
`22:19.30`	`malreth`	`is it possible to use the AceHook-2.1 library without having an AceAddon object?`
`22:21.33`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`22:22.00`	`vhaarr`	`but you need AceLibrary and AceOO, at least.`
`22:22.23`	`malreth`	`yeah, i had those loaded... lemme check. i might have simply done something stupid...`
`22:22.25`	`*** join/#wowace Nargiddley (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net)`
`22:22.27`	`CIA-17`	`03kyahx 07TBC * r17346 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_BarClass.lua: Fixed a bug with the LoadPositon() function if no previous saved data was present.`
`22:22.30`	`Kyahx`	`tada!`
`22:23.21`	`Kyahx`	`so short version of what I missed: svn.wowace.com is a public mirror for people to hammer and kill, and dev.wowace.com is the real SVN?`
`22:23.30`	`vhaarr`	`indeed`
`22:23.32`	`Kyahx`	`got it`
`22:24.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`meh i still check most things out from svn.wowace.com and only use dev.wowace.com for stuff im actually going to commit`
`22:24.45`	`mjc`	`svn.wowace.com is load balanced too`
`22:24.48`	`malreth`	`local AceHook = AceLibrary("AceHook-2.1") -- should be all i have to do to instantiate the library, right?`
`22:25.03`	`vhaarr`	`malreth: well, yes`
`22:25.42`	`malreth`	`hmm... it fails as soon as i try to hook something...`
`22:25.45`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx\|afk: indeed, smart ain't it?`
`22:25.45`	`malreth`	`well...`
`22:25.56`	`malreth`	`i'll have to head home to get the error message`
`22:26.09`	`vhaarr`	`malreth: try something else, sec`
`22:26.17`	`malreth`	`okeh`
`22:26.29`	`vhaarr`	`malreth: AceLibrary("AceHook-2.1"):embed(YourAddon)`
`22:26.41`	`malreth`	`ah...`
`22:26.49`	`vhaarr`	`where YourAddon is obviously a table of some sort`
`22:26.56`	`vhaarr`	`then you'll get :Hook and stuff`
`22:27.00`	`malreth`	`ok`
`22:27.13`	`malreth`	`i was calling AceHook:Hook(blah blah)`
`22:29.39`	`malreth`	`ok... i'll give that a shot when i get home.`
`22:29.57`	`malreth`	`I was thinking i'd have to mixin the ace hook methods somehow into my addon`
`22:31.10`	`vhaarr`	`that's what :embed does`
`22:31.22`	`malreth`	`yeah... makes sense now`
`22:31.35`	`vhaarr`	`why not just use AceAddon?`
`22:31.51`	`malreth`	`don't need the entire addon framework for what I'm doing`
`22:32.21`	`malreth`	`It's more... Sledgehammer when I'm looking for a ball-peen hammer`
`22:32.42`	`malreth`	`AceHook simplifies clean unhooking so I want to use it`
`22:33.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`so what happens if i load compost in 2.0?`
`22:33.20`	`vhaarr`	`you die.`
`22:33.24`	`vhaarr`	`nothing happens`
`22:33.30`	`malreth`	`but loading the entire addon framework for and addon that only functions during the first 5 seconds after loading the UI is overkill`
`22:33.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`good because FuBarPlugin-2.0 seems to have it as a requireddep`
`22:34.34`	`vhaarr`	`that's bullshit`
`22:35.43`	`vhaarr`	`Arrowmaster: It doesn't, that's a bug in the TOC.`
`22:35.49`	`vhaarr`	`you can safely remove that dependancy`
`22:35.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm seems eastern kingdoms on ptr is down`
`22:36.28`	`Mikma`	`oh great`
`22:36.35`	`Mikma`	`again got kicked out from outlands`
`22:36.41`	`Mikma`	`and now my priest is temporarily stuck`
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`22:37.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`wtb beta key so i dont have to put up with this shitty ptr server`
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`22:39.34`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: yo?`
`22:45.37`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r17347 10Squeenix/Squeenix.toc: Squeenix - TOC >> 20000`
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`22:48.01`	`pastamancer`	`bleh, fuck mylex for not providing a progress indicator when running a consistency check on a raid volume`
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`23:01.01`	`zoktar`	`anyone know of a working ingame dkp viewer that works with eqdkp ?`
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`23:15.50`	`CIA-17`	`03pastamancer * r17348 10Grid/ (5 files): Grid: only use Compost in 1.12.`
`23:18.44`	`haste`	`Tekkub: The PTR runs WoW 2.0, ie Lua 5.1 and so on`
`23:19.10`	`haste`	`Tekkub: I have a theory that they rolled out 2.0.1 instead of 2.0.2 'cause of the protected functions or something, which I believe is a bug`
`23:19.11`	`Tekkub`	`duh... the only difference is the content right?`
`23:19.15`	`Tekkub`	`API's still the same..`
`23:19.25`	`haste`	`yeh`
`23:19.36`	`haste`	`but the PTR runs the patch BEFORE the protection changes`
`23:22.14`	`wereHamster`	`what's the correct naming convention for TBS branches?`
`23:22.18`	`wereHamster`	`TBC`
`23:23.30`	`haste`	`branches/addon/TBC/addon/`
`23:23.42`	`haste`	`that's the "correct", you can basicly use what you want tho :p`
`23:23.48`	`Neronix`	`woo`
`23:24.02`	`Neronix`	`I couldn't get myself to talk to that girl`
`23:24.15`	`wereHamster`	`haste, hm.. why twice 'addon' ?`
`23:24.21`	`Neronix`	`and I think she's worked out that I'm kinda interested in her and acted suspiciously`
`23:24.31`	`haste`	`wereHamster: 'cause it's a branch`
`23:24.44`	`haste`	`wereHamster: and you put the addon folder inot the branch`
`23:24.53`	`Neronix`	`No way I was going to try the haste-esque porn voices`
`23:24.53`	`haste`	`wereHamster: as people don't watn to rename EVERY branch they checkout`
`23:25.10`	`haste`	`haha`
`23:25.21`	`wereHamster`	`ok.. that's a good argument`
`23:25.27`	`Neronix`	`Lifetime score - Me: 0, Rejection: #1.IND`
`23:25.32`	`Neronix`	`\o/`
`23:25.46`	`haste`	`haha`
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`23:32.29`	`wereHamster`	`haste, branches are created with 'svn copy', right?`
`23:33.13`	`haste`	`I just make the addons/TBC/, svn add it, then svn copy`
`23:33.24`	`haste`	`then I apply the patch I've prepared, and commit it`
`23:33.35`	`haste`	`oh, and change externals before that`
`23:33.41`	`wereHamster`	`you did a patch?`
`23:33.56`	`haste`	`I always make a patch for my add ons`
`23:34.27`	`haste`	`what I do is:`
`23:34.47`	`haste`	`1. fix the add on for TBC; based on the latest SVN version of the add on`
`23:34.48`	`CIA-17`	`03mikma * r17349 10/branches/Bartender3_Dreamlayout/ (Bartender3_Dreamlayout.toc Dreamlayout.lua): Bartender3_Dreamlayout: cleaning up the code. like there would be any point in that anyway`
`23:34.50`	`haste`	`2. make a diff`
`23:34.50`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r17350 10FuBar_SWStats2Fu/FuBar_SWStats2Fu.toc: FuBar_SWStats2Fu: Update version for beta 3 release`
`23:35.13`	`haste`	`3. Create branch, update externals, patch the file with the diff, commit`
`23:35.20`	`vhaarr`	`I create a diff before every commit.`
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`23:35.26`	`vhaarr`	`And read through it.`
`23:35.48`	`haste`	`I use svn diff for that`
`23:35.50`	`haste`	`before I commit`
`23:35.53`	`wereHamster`	`a direct 'svn copy /trunk/addon /branches/addon/TBC/addon' doesn't work - svn: '/wowace/!svn/bc/17348/branches/HealSync' path not found`
`23:35.58`	`haste`	`I _ALWAYS_ do svn status, and svn diff`
`23:36.06`	`wereHamster`	`how do I create the directory? -.-`
`23:36.07`	`haste`	`before I commit`
`23:36.18`	`haste`	`mkdir -p addon/TBC/`
`23:36.21`	`haste`	`svn add addon`
`23:36.29`	`sylvanaar`	`wereHamster: i had the same problem`
`23:39.34`	`sylvanaar`	`most people do addon/TBC/addon dont they`
`23:39.44`	`CIA-17`	`03usz * r17351 10TooltipExchange/ (. Modules/Scanner.lua):`
`23:39.44`	`CIA-17`	`TooltipExchange`
`23:39.44`	`CIA-17`	`- Forgot to add AceEvent external 1 month ago`
`23:39.44`	`CIA-17`	`- Item scanner now uses bucket event for UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED`
`23:39.46`	`wereHamster`	`Or I'll just use the eclipse plugin :(`
`23:40.46`	`wereHamster`	`let's see it that'll work`
`23:40.53`	`sylvanaar`	`wereHamster: make a folder for your addon, and import it to branches/addon`
`23:41.16`	`Neronix`	`Mikma: no love for dreamlayout? :(`
`23:41.17`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r17352 10/branches/HealSync/ (. TBC/): Prepare destination for the branch operation`
`23:41.31`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster 07TBC * r17353 10HealSync/HealSync/:`
`23:41.31`	`CIA-17`	`HealSync:`
`23:41.31`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:41.52`	`Mikma`	`Neronix: propably, need to recode it much smarter than what it is atm`
`23:44.50`	`sylvanaar`	`i was going to say the way that TBC branches are added to the zip file name they are starting to not be visible from the download page`
`23:45.35`	`sylvanaar`	`could we maybe get the branch before the build#`
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`23:46.21`	`sylvanaar`	`FuBar_SWStats2Fu-r17232[TB... -> FuBar_SWStats2Fu-[TBC]r172...`
`23:46.22`	`CIA-17`	`03usz * r17354 10TooltipExchange/TooltipExchange.toc:`
`23:46.22`	`CIA-17`	`TooltipExchange`
`23:46.22`	`CIA-17`	`- Forgotten AceEvent in .toc file`
`23:46.31`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r17355 10/branches/CommChannel/ (. TBC/): Prepare destination for the branch operation`
`23:46.51`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster 07TBC * r17356 10CommChannel/CommChannel/:`
`23:46.51`	`CIA-17`	`CommChannel:`
`23:46.51`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:46.54`	`yacoob`	`Ha, I set off, drove through, and arrived safely at my destination! This whole driving stuff is cool :)`
`23:46.57`	`usz`	`shared libs can cause you to remember to add things to .toc / externals`
`23:47.12`	`usz`	`s/remember/forget/`
`23:47.13`	`yacoob`	`(for those not informed, I collected my driving licence this very day :)`
`23:47.37`	`sylvanaar`	`gratz`
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`23:51.27`	`thalie`	`is the ciabot working yet?`
`23:52.13`	`CIA-17`	`03mikma * r17357 10/branches/Bartender3_Dreamlayout/Dreamlayout.lua: Bartender3_Dreamlayout: new approach to backgroundchecking. my brains small. haste big. kek`
`23:52.19`	`thalie`	`apparently so :)`
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