| 00:00.05 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23143 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (Core.lua RuleSet.lua): FuBar_RogueTimerFu: Opps wrong addon commited |
| 00:00.12 | kagaro | kergoth: yeah thats possible too.. if someone has loaded those saved files the filters dont work right |
| 00:00.37 | lhunath | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:00.48 | Ominous | yea :D |
| 00:01.10 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23144 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/ (Core.lua RuleSet.lua): FuBar_WarlockTimerFu: Right one this time :P |
| 00:01.12 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan * r23145 10Bits/Bits.toc: |
| 00:01.12 | CIA-17 | Bits: |
| 00:01.12 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.12 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.21 | kergoth | kagaro: i'd just like to avoid a substantial impact when the extra info tracking isnt enabled / loaded, you know |
| 00:01.41 | KarlThePagan | thx Tekkub it's up :D |
| 00:01.42 | kergoth | hmm, wonder if itd be worth writing/converting my resume to hr-xml's format |
| 00:01.42 | kagaro | soo many notes that when cart notes does it map refresh it stops checking after some number of notes |
| 00:01.54 | Tornhoof | ckknight: after a reloadui it shows wednesday now ;) |
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| 00:02.12 | ckknight|work | Tornhoof: that's good, right? |
| 00:02.30 | Tornhoof | i'd suppose, even though i like tuesdays more ;) |
| 00:03.23 | kergoth | ~tuesday |
| 00:03.25 | purl | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday). |
| 00:03.42 | Navv | anyone here who knows ruby? |
| 00:03.51 | lhunath | ~wednesday |
| 00:03.53 | purl | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 00:04.00 | Tular | Hey, I am using PerformaceFU, it says i am using 76MiB, is that same as 76MB? |
| 00:04.29 | lhunath | no |
| 00:04.44 | KarlThePagan | almost 1 MiB == 1024 KiB == 1024 * 1024 bytes |
| 00:04.44 | KarlThePagan | on the other hand 1 MB == 1000 KB == 1,000,000 bytes |
| 00:04.45 | Tornhoof | 76mb is nice ;) |
| 00:04.57 | lhunath | and mb is *certainly* wrong |
| 00:05.03 | Amadeo | Are you using Discord mods? :P |
| 00:05.25 | KarlThePagan | I've passed 60MiB using 98% ace2 recently |
| 00:05.29 | kagaro | kergoth: yes I understand, I also gota say if someone loaded those saved files they wont be able to manage thier map anyways |
| 00:05.29 | lhunath | mb == millibits or something. |
| 00:05.31 | Amadeo | wow |
| 00:05.31 | KarlThePagan | initial is down to 47 tho |
| 00:05.39 | Amadeo | My PC can't handle that! |
| 00:05.51 | Tular | Is 76MiB too much? |
| 00:05.53 | kergoth | kagaro: i load them, and it works fine here. i use the filtering to hide the ones i dont care about |
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| 00:06.03 | Amadeo | Tular: If the game runs fine, maybe not :) |
| 00:06.08 | kagaro | kergoth: go look at the barrens |
| 00:06.20 | KarlThePagan | Tular, with the incremental garbage collection it really depends... |
| 00:06.21 | kenlyric | during the end of my old raiding days, I was easily breaking 100 before GC. |
| 00:06.31 | Amadeo | kenlyric: That's crazy! |
| 00:06.34 | Tular | Any way to tell if its mostly 1 mod? |
| 00:06.36 | KarlThePagan | I was over 110mb before I went ace2 |
| 00:06.37 | kenlyric | I have a LOT of mods :) |
| 00:06.41 | kagaro | with mining and herbs both on |
| 00:06.49 | JoshBork1 | you can also try disabling data collection mods |
| 00:06.55 | kagaro | i used my BC client with just Cart and fubar for perf monitor |
| 00:07.05 | KarlThePagan | "Warmup" and "TekSupport" will help find the memory hogs but they WILL TAINT so ... don't use them all the time |
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| 00:07.12 | kagaro | i couldnt filter out all the nods |
| 00:07.20 | joh | I have a macro question - hope it's appropriate to post it here... A typical self cast macro involves first targeting yourself, then casting the spell and then target the last player again. Is there any easier way to do this? |
| 00:07.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Gah. |
| 00:07.40 | kagaro | tular: i run usually round 30 |
| 00:07.45 | Tular | I am sure Auctioneer is a pig |
| 00:07.49 | KarlThePagan | joh - /cast [target=player] Spellname - see the worldofwarcraft UI forum there's a long tutorial on macros in wow 2.o0 |
| 00:07.50 | Antiarc | Joh: /cast [target=player] Flash Heal |
| 00:07.50 | ZealotOnAStick | This whole caching of items to keep on the inspect frame is more work than I want it to be. |
| 00:07.51 | kenlyric | my big spender was item database... lootlink.. so massive. |
| 00:08.09 | joh | KarlThePagan, Antiarc: Thank you! I will look into it. |
| 00:08.10 | Antiarc | Love my getlink. |
| 00:08.11 | kenlyric | oh, and of course titan. |
| 00:08.13 | KarlThePagan | hehe |
| 00:08.15 | Tornhoof | 21mb ;) |
| 00:08.40 | kagaro | kergoth: can you filter everything out of the barrens? I use the full load db zip files |
| 00:09.20 | kenlyric | I went from 65 initial to 30 initial, growth range from 40mb to 15. And the only |
| 00:09.44 | kagaro | i usually hit 40 when in a 40 man raid in combat |
| 00:09.54 | Tornhoof | yeh i hit 30 then |
| 00:09.58 | Tular | KarlThePagan: Load both and it should be easy to figure out? |
| 00:10.01 | Nimbal_ | pastamancer: I think I have a way of reproducing this now. If the buff list hasn't changed since the last ReloadUI(), the events won't fire. I have no other SE-Aura lib active, so they're never fired. |
| 00:10.47 | KarlThePagan | Tular, sorta easy... you can use Warmup and check your default chat log for the memory usage on startup... addons which use libraries will be artificially larger however |
| 00:11.05 | KarlThePagan | teksupport is really good for resident memory usage - I think you may need FuBar to use it tho |
| 00:11.07 | ckknight|work | Should a note be put on !BugGrabber if Warmup or tekSupport is found, if a blocked action occurs? |
| 00:11.15 | ckknight|work | so that the user is informed of the possible problem |
| 00:11.29 | pastamancer | Nimbal_: ok, I'll look into it |
| 00:11.43 | Nimbal_ | pastamancer: Thank you |
| 00:12.26 | KarlThePagan | could be other development addons that taint like those |
| 00:12.30 | kenlyric | ckknight|work: seems like a good idea to me, if I understand the situation correctly. |
| 00:12.43 | KarlThePagan | a general warning in the docs too? |
| 00:12.49 | KarlThePagan | hehe |
| 00:12.56 | kenlyric | flashing neon text in the channel? |
| 00:13.09 | kagaro | ck: you gona do any more wor on the instance map loading? when first loading on of those maps its painful |
| 00:13.16 | kagaro | s/wor/work |
| 00:13.20 | KarlThePagan | on the bugsack window... "DO NOT REPORT BLOCKED ADDON FOR DEVELOPMENT TOOLS" |
| 00:13.20 | kenlyric | make it "ckknight says you're an idiot. Read the docs first before reporting bugs" |
| 00:13.23 | KarlThePagan | lol |
| 00:13.37 | KarlThePagan | or "READ THE DOCUMENTATION BEFORE REPORTING BUGS" |
| 00:13.49 | ckknight|work | kagaro: that's cause it's loading 25+ textures instead of 1 |
| 00:13.52 | kenlyric | or, "! means bad" |
| 00:14.42 | pastamancer | "! considered harmful"? |
| 00:14.52 | ckknight|work | goto considered harmful |
| 00:14.59 | CIA-17 | 03TheKarn * r23146 10/branches/Baggins/: .creating baggins branch dir |
| 00:14.59 | ckknight|work | pastamancer: actually, !BugGrabber is !'d |
| 00:15.12 | kagaro | ck: just letting you it was slow |
| 00:15.23 | ckknight|work | kagaro: can't fix, Bliz bug |
| 00:15.31 | CIA-17 | 03TheKarn 07TheKarn * r23147 10Baggins/ (. Baggins-enUS.lua Baggins.lua): Baggins: TheKarn Branch |
| 00:15.34 | kagaro | nod |
| 00:15.59 | ckknight|work | so who all has contributed to !BugGrabber? |
| 00:16.10 | ckknight|work | I have, vhaarr has |
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| 00:18.35 | nymbia | ckknight|work: gamefaq, elkano, damjau, fritti |
| 00:18.50 | ckknight|work | ooh, complicated |
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| 00:19.34 | Ominous | i have |
| 00:19.54 | TheKarn | whats the easiest way to add ItemID to an Item's tooltip? |
| 00:20.13 | Ominous | ohh not !buggraber |
| 00:21.24 | kagaro | gona go eat bbl |
| 00:24.57 | Hjalte | ckknight|work: In darkshore the minimap icons are always following my character. It doesnt happen anywhere else than on the darkshore map. |
| 00:25.01 | Nimbal_ | TheKarn: Install Mendeleev? |
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| 00:26.03 | nymbia | TheKarn: Baggins does it |
| 00:26.18 | KarlThePagan | ck you gonna put a license on buggrabber? (thinking of what you'd need contributors for ;)) |
| 00:26.41 | ckknight|work | KarlThePagan: yea, cause norganna wants to use it |
| 00:26.49 | KarlThePagan | ah cool |
| 00:26.56 | ckknight|work | instead of Swatter |
| 00:26.59 | KarlThePagan | WRT licenses I have a suggestion svn:externals |
| 00:27.06 | ckknight|work | just consolidate instead on BugGrabber |
| 00:27.08 | ckknight|work | sure, KarlThePagan |
| 00:27.34 | KarlThePagan | not sure where in the SVN tree structure the actual files should live tho |
| 00:28.09 | KarlThePagan | anything in /trunk/ looks like a mod to WAU |
| 00:28.15 | KarlThePagan | so... /external/ ? |
| 00:28.36 | KarlThePagan | like /external/licenses/lgpl2.1/LICENSE |
| 00:28.37 | ckknight|work | nah, the way it works now with standalones works |
| 00:28.52 | ckknight|work | cause libraries can be standalones in and of themselves |
| 00:28.56 | KarlThePagan | ok |
| 00:29.24 | KarlThePagan | so just /trunk/licenses/ ... with all the different license flavors as files or directories under that |
| 00:29.48 | ckknight|work | KarlThePagan: yea, but if we were to go with GPL, then code sharing within our and other communities will be a lot easier. Since we don't have binary code and don't make money off of our code, there's no real motivation with regards to not going open source |
| 00:30.03 | KarlThePagan | agreed |
| 00:30.20 | KarlThePagan | but as always license is a preference thing... so options are good |
| 00:30.28 | Baps | the only concern I would have with GPL is that it's not compabible with other open source licenses |
| 00:30.29 | KarlThePagan | I had a little fidget complying with LGPL distribution in bits... didn't want to have to check in the full text of the license |
| 00:30.36 | Baps | I'd suggest that it be BSD or dual-licensed |
| 00:30.40 | ckknight|work | Baps: um, how do you mean? |
| 00:30.41 | Baps | again, since there's no binary.. |
| 00:30.58 | Baps | a combination of BSD licensed and GPL licensed code can only be GPL |
| 00:31.01 | Nimbal_ | Yuck! 01:30 already. Good Night! (And "Have nice Day" to everyone living on the other side of the planet) |
| 00:31.22 | ckknight|work | right, Baps |
| 00:31.23 | KarlThePagan | yea GPL is written such that it is the only terms which are applicable etc etc |
| 00:31.23 | Baps | GPL is intentionally only compatible with itself |
| 00:31.41 | Baps | BSD is compatible with everything |
| 00:31.48 | Baps | again, by design |
| 00:31.50 | KarlThePagan | I think the only issue with GPL would be Blizzard asking us to use our code |
| 00:32.01 | ckknight|work | KarlThePagan: copyright owners still own copyright. |
| 00:32.05 | ckknight|work | GPL doesn't forfeit that |
| 00:32.09 | KarlThePagan | yupper |
| 00:32.11 | Makk | ehm |
| 00:32.13 | bender | gief autobar with dreamlayout :D |
| 00:32.24 | ckknight|work | you can't merge from more restrictive licenses, but you can merge from less restrictive licenses (BSD, PD, LGPL, etc) |
| 00:32.26 | bender | so it goes together with b3 |
| 00:32.27 | kenlyric | I can't remember, which one of the licensing schemes has stood up to challenge in court? |
| 00:32.39 | Baps | ken: both have |
| 00:32.40 | Tain | That would be, "None." |
| 00:32.42 | KarlThePagan | but having an explicit "Authors hereby grand Blizzard Software rights to XYZ without restriction" might make that easier |
| 00:32.47 | KarlThePagan | *grant |
| 00:33.04 | ckknight|work | KarlThePagan: um, why shouldn't Bliz ask us first? |
| 00:33.12 | KarlThePagan | they should |
| 00:33.14 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 00:33.29 | Baps | ken: more importantly, if the license isn't valid, then they have no rights to the code.. so it's in the user's interest for the license to be valid |
| 00:33.31 | KarlThePagan | but in the case that authors become scattered to the wind it's not as easy |
| 00:33.39 | kenlyric | wait, won't the GPL infect blizzard if they try to use your code? Microsoft said it. |
| 00:33.40 | Baps | the default state is a copyright violation |
| 00:34.20 | ckknight|work | kenlyric: no, if they ask the author. |
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| 00:34.36 | KarlThePagan | just look at postgresql |
| 00:34.39 | kenlyric | ckknight|work: omg, Microsoft lied? |
| 00:34.48 | Baps | anyway.. since the primary purpose of the GPL is to make sure the source is availble.. and in WoW addons, there is only the source.. I don't see any point to choosing the GPL (and I say that as someone who's chosen the GPL for most projects I've done) |
| 00:34.59 | KarlThePagan | they release their software under 2 licenses - GPL and their own EULA |
| 00:35.04 | Baps | BSD causes fewer headaches in this case |
| 00:35.05 | ckknight|work | Baps: because it also allows ability to share. |
| 00:35.10 | KarlThePagan | GPL for anyone who wants it, EULA for corporate users |
| 00:35.13 | Baps | so does BSD |
| 00:35.18 | Ominous | can you get a program which checks for lua syntax errors so you dont load wow to find them? |
| 00:35.20 | ckknight|work | BSD can allow someone to steal my code, add to it, and not allow me to use their changes |
| 00:35.26 | ckknight|work | Ominous: luac -p |
| 00:35.32 | Ominous | where can u get it |
| 00:35.56 | Baps | ck: do you know of any addons that would possibly be an issue with? |
| 00:36.39 | ckknight|work | Baps: if authors want to keep their code closed <cough>Cide</cough> then yes, but then again, we don't want to deal with sharing code with people like that |
| 00:36.43 | KarlThePagan | didja miss the Cide / Gmail thing? heh |
| 00:36.54 | TheKarn | i missed it |
| 00:36.57 | Ominous | ~seen [Ammo] |
| 00:37.17 | purl | [ammo] is currently on #wowi-lounge (7d 11h 18m 28s) #wowace (7d 11h 18m 28s). Has said a total of 60 messages. Is idling for 12h 19m 16s, last said: 'not <2 hours including farming the mats :p'. |
| 00:37.17 | TheKarn | whats this about Cide and closed code? |
| 00:37.18 | ckknight|work | Gmail borrowed code from Cide |
| 00:37.18 | ckknight|work | Cide got pissy. |
| 00:37.18 | ckknight|work | Gmail died |
| 00:37.18 | ckknight|work | GPL prevents that. |
| 00:37.30 | KarlThePagan | for example |
| 00:37.47 | Ominous | ckknight|work: where can i get that? |
| 00:37.49 | Baps | I don't see how the GPL prevents that.. if Cide doesn't want to license his code.. there's nothing we can do to change that |
| 00:37.57 | KarlThePagan | I borrow/steal code from ck... make a ludicrously popular addon and then get pissy at ck when he reintegrates my features |
| 00:38.12 | KarlThePagan | Baps, no, but the above scenario |
| 00:38.14 | ckknight|work | right. |
| 00:38.20 | ckknight|work | I want to reintegrate the code |
| 00:38.26 | ckknight|work | and bring Karl on as a proper developer |
| 00:38.31 | ckknight|work | instead of having lots and lots of forks. |
| 00:38.40 | ckknight|work | of people using and abusing _my work_ |
| 00:38.41 | KarlThePagan | it's defining our contributions as a community... holding everyone to openly share contributions they make |
| 00:38.48 | KarlThePagan | and not back out and get pissy about it later |
| 00:38.56 | TheKarn | i just hack in changes to other peoples mods |
| 00:38.59 | TheKarn | does that make me a bad person? |
| 00:39.01 | Baps | well, most any license takes care of that |
| 00:39.14 | ckknight|work | TheKarn: yes, because currently it's illegal. with the GPL, there would be no question of legality |
| 00:39.17 | Baps | BSD, MIT, X11, Mozilla, GPL, etc |
| 00:39.31 | KarlThePagan | not bsd/mit |
| 00:39.40 | ckknight|work | Baps: that's not true, BSD can't allow me to resorb code |
| 00:39.42 | KarlThePagan | they just say "do what you want give me credit" |
| 00:39.45 | joh | Hmm, I can't get /cast [target=player] Spellname() to work... |
| 00:39.55 | KarlThePagan | joh no () on the end |
| 00:40.02 | TheKarn | so me making skinner move the panel frames down below skinnertf is illegal? |
| 00:40.03 | KarlThePagan | it's the literal spell name not a function ;) |
| 00:40.19 | ckknight|work | TheKarn: technically, without explicit written permission, yes. |
| 00:40.25 | pastamancer | ag`: ping |
| 00:40.29 | TheKarn | meh ... cant contact jncl anyway |
| 00:40.31 | ckknight|work | we want to prevent legal issues, not cause more |
| 00:40.39 | Baps | karn: technically it is unless you're licensed to do so. in reality, it's not an issue unless you redistribute |
| 00:40.56 | joh | KarlThePagan: Hmm, ok. I want to make a macro that casts dispel magic on myself without loosing target. That should work right? Cause it's not working as I expect |
| 00:41.00 | TheKarn | Baps, i committed those changes to the trunk ;) |
| 00:41.15 | ckknight|work | also take note: all of you are technically in violation of abusing Ace2's copyright. This is a very bad situation and should be righted. |
| 00:41.26 | Baps | karn: depends on the author's position on it then. |
| 00:41.31 | KarlThePagan | joh this should work fine - "/cast [target=player] Dispel Magic" |
| 00:41.34 | KarlThePagan | without quotes of course |
| 00:41.44 | KarlThePagan | and spelling fixed if i spelled wrong |
| 00:41.52 | TheKarn | lol baps, he appolgised in a later commit for not including my changes |
| 00:42.08 | Tain | Sue me, sucker. |
| 00:42.17 | TheKarn | can we sue Thrae for something? |
| 00:42.18 | TheKarn | anything? |
| 00:42.19 | TheKarn | please. |
| 00:42.25 | joh | KarlThePagan: And it should work even if I have targeted a hostile player? |
| 00:42.31 | KarlThePagan | yup joh |
| 00:42.39 | KarlThePagan | WTS my services as a consultant to track down all these copyright violators ;) |
| 00:42.39 | Baps | ck: all users would be.. but the developers aren't at any additional risk, we're making calls to ace, not modifying it |
| 00:42.53 | joh | KarlThePagan: Hmm, ok. Cause it was exactly that I tried but I don't think it worked... Let me test again :P |
| 00:42.58 | TheKarn | 's copyright |
| 00:43.07 | ckknight|work | Baps: yea, but seeing as you weren't given explicit written permission to do so, you are at legal risk |
| 00:43.09 | Fridgid | http://www.ardentfury.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1769 |
| 00:43.10 | Tain | It's a fun exercise of course, but putting licenses on addons doesn't actually *do* anything. |
| 00:43.17 | ckknight|work | Tain: right. |
| 00:43.23 | KarlThePagan | it makes you weel warm and fuzzy! |
| 00:43.26 | ckknight|work | Tain: that's why I just want to GPL and not worry about it anymore. |
| 00:43.34 | KarlThePagan | I recommend LGPL |
| 00:43.36 | Tain | And the only reason gmail disappeared is because the author allowed it to disappear. |
| 00:43.44 | TheKarn | ckknight if you make Ace2 GPL, do all Ace2 mods inherit the license? |
| 00:43.47 | Baps | and any reasonable lawyer would apply estoppel and latches and get their client off.. since ace was published explicitly for distribution |
| 00:43.48 | KarlThePagan | LGPL for Ace2/BugGrabber etc |
| 00:44.07 | KarlThePagan | for the reason TheKarn points out |
| 00:44.10 | ckknight|work | TheKarn: technically they're in violation now, if they make a commit after the license change, they must adopt the GPL |
| 00:44.26 | Tain | Yes TheKarn since you're distributing your addon with Ace and using Ace code. |
| 00:44.26 | ckknight|work | for any previous commits, they could change to GPL retroactively or be in violation of copyright |
| 00:44.33 | CIA-17 | 03nimbal 07Nimbal * r23148 10Buffalo/Buffalo/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:44.33 | CIA-17 | Buffalo(Branch): |
| 00:44.33 | CIA-17 | - labels work now |
| 00:44.53 | Baps | I would very much recommend LGPL over GPL |
| 00:45.00 | KarlThePagan | it's like... 90% less contraversial |
| 00:45.00 | Baps | since it is a library.. |
| 00:45.08 | Tain | Less filling |
| 00:45.10 | Tain | Tastes great |
| 00:45.18 | KarlThePagan | less RMS more ESR |
| 00:45.21 | ckknight|work | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html |
| 00:45.42 | KarlThePagan | yes... there is a relinking weakness |
| 00:45.48 | KarlThePagan | or whatever that is... |
| 00:45.50 | ckknight|work | seriously, I'm not a GPL fanboy, I just think that in our special circumstance where we have de facto open code and no profit being made, GPL's the best for us |
| 00:45.55 | Tain | I choose the FUPL. Use my code all you like but I am granted the right to say, "Fuck You" at will to you. |
| 00:46.18 | KarlThePagan | I agree in principle, but not in practice since it becomes political when you step into full GPL mode |
| 00:46.24 | KarlThePagan | it's just... yea politics |
| 00:46.37 | Baps | I'm aware of the difference.. but I think you'll discourage some authors from using ace2 if you're going to force them to release their code as GPL |
| 00:47.26 | Baps | whereas using LGPL for the libraries allows them to be GPL or any other license they want. |
| 00:47.27 | TheKarn | Baps, most addon authors dont care |
| 00:47.35 | TheKarn | people are going to modify addons all they want |
| 00:47.37 | KarlThePagan | here is another concern |
| 00:47.44 | Baps | karn: more to the point.. I've never seen any license files in any addon |
| 00:47.44 | Antiarc | I'm a fan of the LGPL, personally. |
| 00:47.45 | Baps | ever. |
| 00:47.45 | KarlThePagan | data files, artwork etc released with addons |
| 00:48.00 | KarlThePagan | Baps, I'm FIRST!!!! LOLOL |
| 00:48.12 | KarlThePagan | check out the comment block in /trunk/Bits ;) |
| 00:48.12 | pastamancer | Tem: it wasn't too bad to use UnitWatch and SecureStateHeader to get what I wanted http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3890 |
| 00:48.17 | Baps | certainly none of the ones I've used |
| 00:48.21 | KarlThePagan | truee |
| 00:48.22 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 00:48.26 | Tain | It is another point of FUD to be used against Ace. If I may be so devil's advocatish. |
| 00:48.47 | Tovort | Richard Stallman is extreme at best |
| 00:49.17 | joh | KarlThePagan: It worked now :) thanks |
| 00:49.17 | Tain | Actually I think that saying extreme is lowballing it. |
| 00:49.20 | Tovort | & GPL is a can of worms... There is plenty of more practical licences |
| 00:49.35 | ckknight|work | example? |
| 00:49.47 | KarlThePagan | joh it's the rubber chicken sacrifice I made for you |
| 00:49.58 | Tovort | Apache Type, EPL ... |
| 00:50.04 | KarlThePagan | apache is very practical |
| 00:50.43 | Tovort | I don't like the "viral" part of the GPL |
| 00:50.45 | ckknight|work | I don't want someone to use my code that I poured myself into, create something else and not let me use it |
| 00:51.15 | Tovort | well afaik there are close to no commercial addons to wow |
| 00:51.25 | ckknight|work | RDX |
| 00:51.32 | Hjalte | Tovort: There's an auctioneer-like addon that is commercial |
| 00:51.32 | kenlyric | <3 |
| 00:51.36 | ckknight|work | which we as a community are pretty much opposed to |
| 00:51.54 | Tovort | i have yet to meet a single user... |
| 00:51.57 | kenlyric | ok, fuck you automaton! |
| 00:52.01 | trh | uhm... can anybody explain me why the error (line 1) shows up? http://ace.pastey.net/4407 |
| 00:52.14 | Goeb | baps- whats your addon memory usage say now that you've got all my gather data? |
| 00:52.20 | kenlyric | grrrr. |
| 00:52.25 | KarlThePagan | yea apache 1 is bsd... apache 2 isn't as strong as lgpl |
| 00:52.27 | Baps | goeb: I haven't lauched wow recently. |
| 00:52.29 | Tovort | I don't doubt there are commercial addons - they just have no real importance given the hundreds of pretty good free addons |
| 00:52.39 | Baps | not since I drove home |
| 00:52.51 | Tain | RDX is fairly popular. |
| 00:52.53 | Baps | but I'll let you know the next time I fire it up |
| 00:53.01 | Goeb | baps- ! faster! |
| 00:53.06 | Baps | which will be after I go get food |
| 00:53.11 | Baps | which I will do right now |
| 00:53.11 | Tovort | It's not like the free addons are a downgraded version of commercial ones |
| 00:53.11 | Goeb | so... here's what I discovered... |
| 00:53.13 | Tain | Which isn't to say it is worth paying for, but that's hardly the point. |
| 00:53.13 | kenlyric | RDX is fairly good. |
| 00:53.33 | Tular | I have TekSupport loaded, and I am looking at it, and the numbers dont add up to anything near 78MiB |
| 00:53.35 | Tular | odd |
| 00:53.41 | kenlyric | well, it was superb before 2.0.1 nerfed many of its features, and I haven't had a chance to try it since then. |
| 00:53.48 | KarlThePagan | Tular, teksupport only watches memory increase |
| 00:53.49 | Tovort | given the nature of change of Wow, I wouldn't touch an addon i couldn't modify or have total control of |
| 00:54.03 | Tain | You can modify any addon anytime you like. |
| 00:54.06 | Goeb | while on nef, out of combat, if I buffed or removed a buff on myself, there was a half second pause and my increasing rate jumped 100K/s or so... if I spammed buffs on myself it would keep increasing approx 100K/s each... I had it up to 2M/s |
| 00:55.33 | Tovort | Tain: If RDX is commercial, are modifications covered by there license? |
| 00:55.35 | Tular | hmm, looks like outfitter is a pig? |
| 00:56.06 | Tain | I have no idea. |
| 00:56.08 | KarlThePagan | Tovort, it would be copyright violation... probably prosecutable as software piracy if they care to press it ;) |
| 00:56.14 | Fridgid | Tovort: i don't think so |
| 00:56.31 | ckknight|work | Tovort: if it's all rights reserved, you can't legally change the code |
| 00:56.50 | Soulless | i use rdx6 as i used to be in the same guild as the author, so i have mixed feelings about the whole thing |
| 00:57.20 | Tovort | that's all I meant by being able to modify |
| 00:57.30 | Soulless | i agree, having to pay for addons is weaksauce, but rdx is pretty amazing |
| 00:57.45 | Tain | Oh my definition of being able to modify is opening the file, making changes, and saving it. |
| 00:57.51 | Tular | Has anyone else found outfitter to be a pig? |
| 00:58.19 | Soulless | Tain: thats not even an issue with lua b/c its not compiled, so youre free to edit anything anytime you want |
| 00:58.25 | Tain | Excatly! |
| 00:58.35 | Ominous | hmm is it worh using ace comm to send a 1 chat message in my addon or should i use normal api |
| 00:58.36 | KarlThePagan | it depends on the EULA |
| 00:58.40 | Andune | Tular: yes, I have |
| 00:59.01 | Andune | I just removed it the other day and tried a different package, my frequent GC issues are gone now. |
| 00:59.02 | Tain | And since I don't think *any* license would hold up legally on a WoW addon that's all that matters is that I can change it. |
| 00:59.04 | Soulless | i just meant, its possible, not 'legal' |
| 00:59.11 | Tovort | I think the RDX alone is done in such an unprofessional way that i wouldn't be willing to pay - no matter how well it's really done |
| 00:59.16 | trh | looks like i got a tough one with http://ace.pastey.net/4407?hi=1,16 :( |
| 00:59.23 | Tular | Does Wardrobe2 have as many features? |
| 00:59.25 | Tovort | RDX Homepage I meant |
| 00:59.39 | Tovort | (too late) |
| 00:59.40 | KarlThePagan | in practical terms software licenses don't matter until someone starts being a prick about it |
| 00:59.49 | KarlThePagan | and well ... that's the whole point isn't it? |
| 00:59.54 | kenlyric | so, we need to think about Cide. |
| 01:00.00 | Soulless | point taken |
| 01:00.10 | Soulless | is that what brought all of this up, the whole gmail thing? |
| 01:00.23 | KarlThePagan | he can have his code... but he can't have our code without giving us his code... that's about my opinion of it and so I endorse LGPL |
| 01:00.32 | ckknight|work | frankly, because licenses are such a moot issue, I think we should not worry about it so much, part of that, for me, is to license under GPL and forget about it, allow people to change my work without any legal issues, and hopefully it will all work out |
| 01:00.45 | Tain | hah anyone can have his code and there's not a damn thing he can do about it. |
| 01:00.57 | KarlThePagan | he can piss & moan |
| 01:00.59 | ckknight|work | Soulless: that and wanting to work with Atlas, norganna, etc. |
| 01:01.23 | Tovort | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Lesser_General_Public_License |
| 01:01.26 | TheKarn | tbh ckknight|work if people did hijack your work most addonsites (especially the popular ones) have control over the download locations and the code uploaded. so they wouldnt get far |
| 01:01.38 | Tain | So is gmail entirely gone? |
| 01:01.43 | Tain | Is it still in svn? |
| 01:01.44 | KarlThePagan | dead |
| 01:01.46 | Tovort | I'd guess lgpl is "hard" enough |
| 01:01.46 | KarlThePagan | shhhh |
| 01:01.47 | ckknight|work | Tain: being rewritten |
| 01:02.05 | *** join/#wowace Nomad_Wanderer (n=chatzill@cpe-66-66-149-60.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 01:02.10 | KarlThePagan | Tovort, I agree |
| 01:02.11 | kenlyric | seems like if you want to set it and forget it ck, you would want to go with LGPL for all the Ace stuff. Individual mod authors could choose their own license. |
| 01:02.13 | Soulless | yeah, so how do all these liscenses work in a nutshell? i'd assume its just free to do w/e you want just don't sell my shit? |
| 01:02.15 | ckknight|work | Tain: you can revert to the old revisions if you want, but it's not a big deal |
| 01:02.24 | Tain | Too bad, I was having a sudden burst of energy to write GMail_FUCide edition from it. |
| 01:02.33 | Soulless | ^^ lol |
| 01:02.40 | ckknight|work | kenlyric: but I want to benefit from their work at a later point in time, since they have benefitted from mine. |
| 01:03.15 | KarlThePagan | ck the LGPL protects you of that |
| 01:03.15 | kenlyric | Then release it under GPL and tell them to go use cosmos if they don't like it. |
| 01:03.21 | ckknight|work | Soulless: actually you could sell it, but if you did, you have to allow people to copy it (and thus remerge it) |
| 01:03.29 | ckknight|work | KarlThePagan: no, it doesn't fully enough |
| 01:03.43 | ckknight|work | KarlThePagan: benefitting from my work can mean using my APIs |
| 01:03.59 | ckknight|work | even indirectly |
| 01:04.00 | Tovort | main problem with all that license stuff is, that it's very hard to change once your have it set |
| 01:04.00 | Soulless | is there a liscense thats opensource but all derivitive work must be opensource? or is that the point of the liscenses? |
| 01:04.10 | ckknight|work | Soulless: that's GPL. |
| 01:04.11 | Nomad_Wanderer | Happy New Year everyone |
| 01:04.18 | Tular | Does Wardrobe2 have as many features as Outfitter? |
| 01:04.19 | Mikma | gah |
| 01:04.28 | ckknight|work | Happy nondenominational winter holiday, Nomad_Wanderer |
| 01:04.34 | trh | Tovort: it isn't possible - once released a gpl'd version, that version is gpl forever |
| 01:04.46 | Nomad_Wanderer | I thought New Year was already non denominational |
| 01:04.46 | Mikma | my wife woke me up and now i can't sleep |
| 01:04.48 | Tovort | trh: jup |
| 01:04.56 | Nomad_Wanderer | did one of the religous groups hijack it? |
| 01:04.57 | trh | Tovort: but you can create a new version based on the gpl version and relicense it, if you got the ok from every author of that code |
| 01:04.59 | Tain | Don't stand for that Mikma |
| 01:05.07 | ckknight|work | Nomad_Wanderer: *shrug* |
| 01:05.13 | KarlThePagan | ck... well I'd be on board with this but it's going to mean someone will get a bug up their ass and flame ace for it ;) |
| 01:05.27 | Mikma | Tain: well i can't sleep anymore and i have to go to school in 4 hours |
| 01:05.27 | Andune | Tular: sorry swapped away for a bit. I'm using ClosetGnome atm |
| 01:05.30 | ckknight|work | KarlThePagan: yea, but they can go eat a dick |
| 01:05.31 | Tovort | in theory you would have to ask every submitter for there permission... |
| 01:05.32 | kenlyric | um, New Year's day is a christian holiday. |
| 01:05.37 | KarlThePagan | ok sounds fine to me |
| 01:05.39 | ckknight|work | Tovort: yea, I know |
| 01:05.39 | Andune | previously used ItemRack, was happy with that as well. |
| 01:05.55 | Tain | Merry New Year! |
| 01:05.59 | kenlyric | It was set by christian civilations to mark a specific christian event. Other religions have other new year's day. |
| 01:06.06 | Nomad_Wanderer | What's the advantages of running disembedded? I've been asked to make an ace2 package for our radiers.. (just the basic raid addons), and I'm trying to figure which way to go.. |
| 01:06.15 | KarlThePagan | I make no proffits so... why not - but I might dual license my LFG mod because I'm going to put it into cosmos |
| 01:06.18 | Tovort | (damn "there" & "their" wrong second time :D ) |
| 01:06.21 | Soulless | well, in a nutshell, it would change nada except for the header info in files and tocs, and give ckknight|work the option to 'pursue' somebody if he was being douche right? |
| 01:06.25 | Mikma | Nomad_Wanderer: faster loadingtime atleast |
| 01:06.30 | ckknight|work | Nomad_Wanderer: can be faster, but typically it's just for devs |
| 01:06.36 | Tain | Except Jan 1 is now a world-wide thing which has nothing to do with religion. The history may, but not today. |
| 01:06.38 | trh | Tovort: even practical.. i worked on a open source dvb project (tuxbox) where the gpl2 licensing scheme was modified to gplv2 only without the later gpl's apply to clauses |
| 01:06.39 | ckknight|work | Soulless: yes. |
| 01:06.49 | ckknight|work | Soulless: and the community would keep sharing as we always have been |
| 01:06.52 | KarlThePagan | and that's an issue now - since cosmos is missing a shitload of the tourist functions ;) |
| 01:06.52 | Mikma | Nomad_Wanderer: i don't recommend "normal" users doing non-embed addon-packages |
| 01:06.58 | KarlThePagan | but oh well ;) |
| 01:07.00 | kenlyric | Tain, um, there are many, many countries that don't celebrate new year on jan 1. |
| 01:07.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | Gotcha |
| 01:07.01 | Soulless | in the long run, i don't see how thats going to change anything |
| 01:07.03 | ckknight|work | Soulless: and we'd start sharing with norgs and DanG and other GPL authors |
| 01:07.16 | ckknight|work | that's a big reason I want to change to GPL |
| 01:07.22 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thanks for the advice.. |
| 01:07.23 | Tular | Andune: will thaty aut switch stuff for you? Like when you are riding? |
| 01:07.23 | ckknight|work | to have better inter-community sharing |
| 01:07.24 | Soulless | i see |
| 01:07.25 | Tovort | are all the other "bigger" mods GPL ? |
| 01:07.32 | Mikma | Nomad_Wanderer: the only way i can keep up my addons up to date is because of svn and pretty shell-scripts :D |
| 01:07.35 | ckknight|work | Tovort: typically, except Cide's |
| 01:07.44 | TheKarn | can someone bitchtest my branch of Baggins ? theres a new way of selecting a PT Set based on ItemID |
| 01:07.48 | Nomad_Wanderer | Hmm. what about WAU? |
| 01:07.53 | Mikma | Nomad_Wanderer: and i keep and maintain a non-embed addonpackage for me and my close friends |
| 01:07.54 | Tain | kenlyric: no countries that matter! |
| 01:07.57 | TheKarn | ( as a category rule ) |
| 01:08.00 | Andune | Tular: closetGnome does, yes. It has a 'mount' module for doing just that |
| 01:08.08 | kenlyric | does Japan celebrate western new year? |
| 01:08.13 | Nomad_Wanderer | Closetgnome is cool.. I like the funny sayings :) |
| 01:08.17 | kenlyric | I've always wondered that. |
| 01:08.28 | Andune | Tular: you can have it switch gear when you go into towns, hit certain bosses in raids (tied into BigWigs, I believe), etc |
| 01:08.31 | Nomad_Wanderer | They showed Japan on the Dick Clark Rockin News Year eve special |
| 01:08.36 | Mikma | I still wish that someone would make an addon called Midas :D |
| 01:08.37 | Soulless | cide and venificus are the only authors i know of that arn't opensource peoples |
| 01:08.40 | Makk | Interface\\Tooltips\\UI-Tooltip-Background <--- slightly transparent, right? |
| 01:08.41 | Mikma | it's just too damn cool name to skip hehe |
| 01:08.48 | KarlThePagan | ~seen AnduinLothar |
| 01:09.07 | purl | anduinlothar <n=AnduinLo@ip68-99-187-213.oc.oc.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 4m 46s ago, saying: 'i think 40-50k is like the max size of a 32 bit integer or something'. |
| 01:09.07 | Mikma | Makk: just as transparent as you make it |
| 01:09.07 | kenlyric | Soulless: which is pretty silly.. since their source is open ;) |
| 01:09.07 | Tular | Andune: so that and item rack use less memory than outfitter? |
| 01:09.07 | Makk | Mikma: are you sure? |
| 01:09.22 | Tain | ~emulate saien |
| 01:09.24 | purl | Slash commands are ameturish. |
| 01:09.24 | Makk | I think it's very slightly transparent... |
| 01:09.27 | Mikma | Makk: well, that's what i did use in BT2 and i think nevcairiel uses in BT3 |
| 01:09.33 | kenlyric | outfitter has some problems. I had to drop it and haven't tried a replacement yet. |
| 01:09.36 | ckknight|work | Makk: it's transparent. |
| 01:09.38 | Nomad_Wanderer | hehehe.. I'm waiting for someone's last seen to say "I wonder if anyone is every going to see this?" |
| 01:09.42 | TheKarn | kenlyric, what problems? |
| 01:09.44 | Andune | Tular: ClosetGnome does for sure. Not sure aobut ItemRack. I used ItemRack before 2.0 and was trying new stuff, so haven't taken a look at it since. |
| 01:09.47 | ckknight|work | Mikma: don't use that if you want non-transparent |
| 01:09.51 | ckknight|work | use WHITE8x8 instead |
| 01:09.53 | KarlThePagan | ~seen Nomad_Wanderer |
| 01:10.06 | purl | nomad_wanderer is currently on #wowi-lounge (8m 2s) #wowace (8m 2s). Has said a total of 10 messages. Is idling for 28s, last said: 'hehehe.. I'm waiting for someone's last seen to say "I wonder if anyone is every going to see this?"'. |
| 01:10.06 | kenlyric | Well, taking up a huge chunk of memory. |
| 01:10.06 | ckknight|work | brb |
| 01:10.06 | Makk | ckknight|work: ok, any solid white background to use in frames? |
| 01:10.06 | ckknight|work | WHITE8x8 |
| 01:10.13 | kenlyric | wait, is outfitter aced now? |
| 01:10.23 | Mikma | ckknight|work: well, http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/Bartender2/Bartender2.lua -> function Bartender:CreateFrame(name, text) :) |
| 01:10.33 | Andune | kenlyric: I was just chatting with Tular about that. I had the same issue and have switched to ClosetGnome. |
| 01:10.34 | Makk | ckknight|work: bgFile = "WHITE8x8" ? |
| 01:10.34 | KarlThePagan | kenlyric, no, there's just a fubar plugin |
| 01:10.42 | Soulless | so i found out today that you can d/l patches with any torrent downloader. it make me happy |
| 01:10.48 | Mikma | ckknight|work: we use Interface\\Tooltips\\UI-Tooltip-Background to get the "unlocked" look of Bars |
| 01:11.09 | Andune | in addition, ClosetGnome has the advantage of not acting screwy with Skinner running, which Outfitter always did. |
| 01:11.29 | Nomad_Wanderer | Dont forget the funny sayings! |
| 01:11.35 | KarlThePagan | I might switch to outfitter once I start leveling up... |
| 01:11.47 | Tular | Andune: I dont see any druid modulas for it, like for bear etc |
| 01:11.58 | kenlyric | we need an selfbuff addon in Ace. Maybe I should learn how and write one. |
| 01:12.37 | ckknight|work | Makk: there's a path |
| 01:12.37 | Makk | ckknight|work: how do I use that one? |
| 01:12.41 | Makk | ou. |
| 01:12.44 | ckknight|work | look in Tablet |
| 01:12.46 | ckknight|work | it's in there. |
| 01:12.58 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=60749588&pageNo=1&sid=1#1 <-fucking win |
| 01:13.09 | Nomad_Wanderer | ~seen pixel |
| 01:13.19 | purl | pixel <n=LnX@85.98.80.29> was last seen on IRC in channel #familiar, 418d 2h 45m 39s ago, saying: 'so can you run all of the qt based applications or maybe servers on your ipaq ?'. |
| 01:13.19 | Tovort | kenlyric: I'd think Macros are good enough. I love those Castsequences (except on hostile Warlocks) |
| 01:13.39 | anenigma | Fisker-: "Server is busy" :( |
| 01:13.57 | Andune | Tular: no idea, haven't tried it with my druid yet.. works great with War forms tho, so I asume it'll work with druid too |
| 01:14.00 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=60749585&sid=1#7 <-followed by this ofcourse |
| 01:14.05 | Fisker- | anenigma refresh :P |
| 01:14.15 | kenlyric | Tovort... Buff, not debuff. |
| 01:14.21 | Tular | downloading now |
| 01:14.25 | anenigma | Fisker-: yeah got it after a few refreshes :) |
| 01:14.27 | Andune | Nomad_Wanderer: lol. I turned those off. nice touch, but I get enough spam already so had to squeltch it :P |
| 01:14.29 | Tular | Andune: downloading now |
| 01:14.34 | kenlyric | I don't want to have to work for inner fire. |
| 01:14.40 | Tular | Is there any ace2 mods like FlightPath? |
| 01:14.48 | Makk | Interface\\Buttons\\WHITE8X8 |
| 01:14.52 | kenlyric | ToFu |
| 01:14.55 | Mikma | Fisker-: i don't get it |
| 01:14.58 | Hjalte | Tular: Inflight and Fubar_Tofu |
| 01:15.32 | Fisker- | Mikma someone tried to excuse "Shit" as actually "Shirt" |
| 01:15.32 | Tovort | kenlyric: I use something like "/castsequence reset=15 Aspect of the Hawk, Trueshot Aura, Track Humanoids" for my Hunter in BGs. Is that something alike to a buff-mod? |
| 01:15.35 | Andune | Tular: only thing I'm not fond of with ClosetGnome is everytime you define a new 'outfit', it auto-selects every item in your inventory. So if you'r ejust defining weapon sets, for example, you gotta unclick all your armors every time |
| 01:15.43 | Fisker- | So now this other guy is using "Shirt" as shit |
| 01:15.51 | Fisker- | Shirtastic = Shitastic |
| 01:15.53 | Fisker- | :P |
| 01:15.59 | Andune | but, I really don't change my outfits all that often, so it's a minor issue. And a much better one than the constant memleak and GC'ing :) |
| 01:16.09 | Fisker- | IT IS FUNNY OR YOU DIE |
| 01:16.16 | Mikma | Fisker-: but still i don't get why it's supposed to be funny in any way |
| 01:16.29 | Fisker- | funny now? |
| 01:16.31 | Mikma | no |
| 01:16.37 | Mikma | now i'm bleeding |
| 01:16.38 | Fisker- | you're not alive :( |
| 01:16.39 | Mikma | gg assclown |
| 01:16.55 | Ominous | is string.format(%.0f, number) the best way to round to the nearest whole number |
| 01:17.10 | kenlyric | Maybe, if I can activate the macro on mousescroll :) |
| 01:17.11 | ckknight|work | Ominous: I have a banker's rounding algorithm in Cartographer_Notes |
| 01:17.13 | ckknight|work | feel free to use it |
| 01:17.14 | Fisker- | I'd better get to sleep again :( |
| 01:17.26 | Ominous | thanks :) |
| 01:17.27 | kenlyric | Tovort: if I can activate on mouse scroll, and if that works for timed buffs too. |
| 01:17.53 | ckknight|work | Ominous: by feel free, that may imply later that it'll be GPL'd and thus your code GPL'd |
| 01:18.09 | *** join/#wowace kebinusan (n=kevin@75-129-100-164.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
| 01:18.11 | Ominous | whats that? |
| 01:18.22 | Tain | Don't worry Ominous if you take it now he can't get you! |
| 01:18.29 | TheKarn | anyone able to check out my Baggins branch? |
| 01:18.34 | ckknight|work | it means you'll have to allow other people to borrow from your code, Ominous |
| 01:18.49 | ckknight|work | under the same terms |
| 01:18.54 | Ominous | oh, i alwasys will since i have used other peoples |
| 01:20.11 | Nomad_Wanderer | 400 in queue :( |
| 01:21.08 | Ominous | ckk: why do you declare local math_floor = math.floor and not just use math.floor? |
| 01:21.17 | ckknight|work | Ominous: speed! |
| 01:21.26 | TheKarn | damn WAU :( i spent ages writing HSL->RGB->HSL methods to rotate all Skinner colours by a set Hue off a slider only to update and lose it all :( |
| 01:21.28 | ckknight|work | math.floor does a global lookup and a table lookup |
| 01:21.28 | TheKarn | ah well |
| 01:21.34 | Ominous | oki |
| 01:21.45 | ckknight|work | using the local makes it so it just does an upvalue lookup |
| 01:21.56 | ckknight|work | which is damn cheap |
| 01:22.11 | Fisker- | TheKarn you silly goose |
| 01:22.13 | TheKarn | ckknight|work, should we do the same for string.lower and string.match? |
| 01:22.17 | Tain | Like an upskirt lookup. Which is also cheap. |
| 01:22.19 | Ominous | is it better to keep it as a local function and not a self:round()? |
| 01:22.20 | Fisker- | that's why you tell it to delete stuff before extracting |
| 01:22.24 | Ominous | and if so why |
| 01:22.33 | ckknight|work | TheKarn: no, for strings, use colon syntax. |
| 01:22.41 | TheKarn | i tried that but it didnt work |
| 01:22.44 | ckknight|work | str:lower() |
| 01:22.51 | ckknight|work | ("alpha"):lower() |
| 01:22.56 | TheKarn | ah bollocks |
| 01:22.58 | TheKarn | thats why then |
| 01:23.08 | ckknight|work | Tain: lol. |
| 01:23.35 | TheKarn | i tried /dump "Test":lower():match("TEST":lower()) and it didnt work ... |
| 01:23.57 | Tovort | kenlyric: I used WCRebuff when I was still playing my pally. But it was a very performance-savy addon |
| 01:24.09 | ckknight|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.17 | TheKarn | yeah i just worked that out |
| 01:25.39 | Ominous | nice thanks ckk |
| 01:25.42 | KarlThePagan | TheKarn, i ported a RGB -> HSL function... |
| 01:25.56 | KarlThePagan | haven't done HSL -> RGB yet tho |
| 01:26.19 | Ominous | also in a string to color it with |f is the following thing after |f hexi |
| 01:26.36 | TheKarn | karl i think i still have mine actually |
| 01:26.38 | TheKarn | if you want it |
| 01:27.00 | TheKarn | hmm nah |
| 01:27.17 | KarlThePagan | tell me if you beat me |
| 01:27.18 | KarlThePagan | http://ace.pastey.net/4411 |
| 01:27.25 | KarlThePagan | I think that's as good as it gets |
| 01:27.38 | TheKarn | yup i did :P |
| 01:27.41 | KarlThePagan | it's 0-1,0-1,radians |
| 01:27.49 | KarlThePagan | not 0-255,0-255,degrees |
| 01:27.52 | KarlThePagan | hehe |
| 01:27.59 | *** join/#wowace Pret-Awne (i=Awne@084202054236.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 01:28.01 | KarlThePagan | well... lemme see it ;) |
| 01:28.14 | TheKarn | lol it got overwritten in an update |
| 01:28.18 | KarlThePagan | aw |
| 01:28.19 | TheKarn | lemme re-write it again :P |
| 01:28.26 | KarlThePagan | what'd you do different? |
| 01:28.30 | TheKarn | won't take long now i know how to do it |
| 01:28.38 | TheKarn | nah same kinda method i think |
| 01:28.52 | KarlThePagan | yea well helps to have textbooks lying around ;) |
| 01:29.25 | TheKarn | yup |
| 01:29.54 | KarlThePagan | I did sacrifice a tiny bit of speed by multiplying before the addition/subtraction but if i remember correctly that will yield more accurate results since we're using float math |
| 01:30.19 | TheKarn | lets just see what i got :P |
| 01:30.50 | KarlThePagan | i wrote it for a pretty silly reason tho ;) |
| 01:31.25 | KarlThePagan | so as to let Tourist make all the decisions of the relative difficulty of a zone/instance and not have to worry about min/max level comparisons and such |
| 01:31.26 | TheKarn | whats that? |
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| 01:31.40 | Mikma | you know what i still mis about wow |
| 01:31.41 | CIA-17 | 03prandur * r23149 10FuBar_RecapFu/RecapFu.lua: FuBar_RecapFu: fixed typo that was preventing dps updates |
| 01:31.50 | kebinusan | bleh |
| 01:31.54 | Mikma | notes on screen :P |
| 01:31.57 | kebinusan | new year new pc troubles |
| 01:32.04 | Mikma | Mubbles but with easier way of putting them |
| 01:32.22 | Mikma | "3M notepads" |
| 01:33.01 | kebinusan | they leave nasty marks |
| 01:33.30 | Mikma | use some 90% alcohol to clean them off |
| 01:33.34 | Mikma | ps. don't drink it |
| 01:33.37 | kebinusan | thats for drinking |
| 01:33.55 | kebinusan | notes are what desktop2 is for |
| 01:34.01 | Mikma | what's that |
| 01:34.08 | *** join/#wowace Diatu (n=Diatu@c-65-96-102-128.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 01:34.25 | kebinusan | my second virtual destop |
| 01:35.44 | TheKarn | http://ace.pastey.net/4412 |
| 01:36.28 | ckknight|work | TheKarn: that'd be good to put into CrayonLib or something... |
| 01:36.33 | TheKarn | yeah maybe |
| 01:36.38 | TheKarn | i'll get it right and test it first if you want |
| 01:36.43 | TheKarn | then send you a patch / commit |
| 01:36.50 | ckknight|work | later... |
| 01:38.25 | Ominous | whats wrong with this? as in the color part of it |
| 01:38.28 | Ominous | "|cffffffff"..candy.handlers[id].text.."|r has |cffffffff"..round(candy.handlers[id].time-candy.handlers[id].elapsed, 0).."s|r remaining" |
| 01:38.41 | Ominous | the variable are fine |
| 01:38.43 | *** join/#wowace vid` (i=vid@c-68-36-197-141.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 01:38.54 | Ominous | my wow dcs when ever i add that to a chat message |
| 01:39.37 | Mikma | i still think Baggins owns ArkInventory 10-1 |
| 01:39.37 | Makk | hm |
| 01:39.42 | Makk | how do I make text bold? |
| 01:39.47 | Makk | text in a fontstring |
| 01:39.58 | ckknight|work | you gotta change the fontstring's style |
| 01:40.34 | Makk | feel free give examples |
| 01:40.45 | KarlThePagan | TheKarn, does wow deal with hues? or is it just easier to do it on a 0-1 range? |
| 01:41.05 | KarlThePagan | I guess / 3 is simpler than * 4pi/3 |
| 01:41.13 | KarlThePagan | err 2pi |
| 01:42.00 | TheKarn | i just used hue as a range 0-1 |
| 01:42.06 | KarlThePagan | k |
| 01:42.07 | TheKarn | [0,1) |
| 01:42.12 | TheKarn | was easier |
| 01:42.25 | TheKarn | then if you wanted it in angles you can do h = angle/360 |
| 01:42.43 | Mikma | ckknight|work: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full1253.jpg |
| 01:43.07 | ckknight|work | Mikma: what about it? |
| 01:43.27 | Ominous | hmm why dosent /run SendChatMessage("|cff00ff00Fu|r", "RAID") change the color to green? |
| 01:43.28 | Mikma | ckknight|work: are the lines worth thinking? |
| 01:43.44 | ckknight|work | Mikma: honestly, no. I don't see a point |
| 01:43.54 | ckknight|work | if someone shows me a good reason to, of course I'll consider it |
| 01:43.57 | Mikma | ckknight|work: i agree. just wanted to see what you think about them |
| 01:44.36 | Makk | Ominous: CrayonLib might be good for that |
| 01:45.49 | Quetzi | Ominous, afaik you can't colour chat channel output inline, just chatframe output |
| 01:45.59 | Ominous | oh k :/ |
| 01:46.36 | TheKarn | be warned, trying to send colours in chat messages will actually get you kicked from the server |
| 01:46.39 | TheKarn | or at least it used to |
| 01:46.42 | Mikma | yeah otherwise everyone would make all sort of rainbow-scripts |
| 01:47.06 | Makk | very true, ew |
| 01:47.56 | TheKarn | it would be like being on efnet with mirc |
| 01:47.58 | TheKarn | eww |
| 01:48.06 | Makk | :P |
| 01:48.14 | Mikma | or using rainbow with irssi |
| 01:49.38 | KarlThePagan | is anyone interested in my FuBar flavored LFG browser? |
| 01:49.50 | KarlThePagan | I'll upload it to a branch if someone wants to play and give me feedback |
| 01:49.57 | KarlThePagan | becoming quite stable |
| 01:50.08 | CIA-17 | 03arjuna * r23150 10FuBar_switcherFu/switcherFu.lua: |
| 01:50.08 | CIA-17 | FuBar_switcherFu |
| 01:50.08 | CIA-17 | - added video resolution options |
| 01:50.35 | TheKarn | wahey :) they work |
| 01:50.55 | Prophyy | anyone still getting random *pauses* when ppl go online/offline/joins a raid? |
| 01:50.55 | Mikma | what work? |
| 01:50.59 | TheKarn | /print HSLtoRGB(RGBtoHSL(0.1,0.2,0.3)) |
| 01:51.06 | TheKarn | prints 0.1, 0.2, 0.3 |
| 01:51.15 | vid` | got my sceptre 22" |
| 01:51.16 | vid` | its SICK |
| 01:51.17 | vid` | massive |
| 01:51.18 | vid` | lol |
| 01:51.24 | Mikma | kek, bur |
| 01:51.28 | vid` | cept i have no room on my desk now |
| 01:51.37 | vid` | got my 19" and 22" next to each other looks pimp~ |
| 01:51.45 | Mikma | buy a bigger desk |
| 01:51.54 | vid` | it covers my whole wall |
| 01:51.55 | vid` | :( |
| 01:51.57 | Mikma | if there ain't enough room, buy a bigger apartmet |
| 01:52.00 | vid` | xbox 360 / printer |
| 01:52.05 | vid` | 5.1 system |
| 01:52.07 | vid` | etc :P |
| 01:52.10 | vid` | takes up a lot of room |
| 01:52.54 | Prophyy | anyone still getting random *pauses* when ppl go online/offline/joins a raid? |
| 01:53.08 | vid` | yes |
| 01:53.09 | Nomad_Wanderer | I've herad about corrupted caches that casue that |
| 01:53.09 | vid` | it's clique |
| 01:53.14 | vid` | disable clique and it goes away |
| 01:53.16 | vid` | worked for me |
| 01:53.22 | vid` | and a few other people i told to try |
| 01:53.30 | vid` | might be clique conflicting with another mod |
| 01:53.33 | vid` | but dunno what |
| 01:53.41 | vid` | click2cast worked so i just used that :\ |
| 01:53.47 | Mikma | old clique did conflict with agUF, it was fixed tho |
| 01:53.50 | vid` | ahh |
| 01:53.53 | Nomad_Wanderer | It's not clique itself though |
| 01:54.04 | Nomad_Wanderer | I run clique without those problems.. But I have more recent AGUF |
| 01:54.07 | vid` | i disabled clique yesterday and i was running newest ver |
| 01:54.11 | vid` | and newest aguf off svn |
| 01:54.15 | vid` | as of yest around noon est |
| 01:54.25 | Nomad_Wanderer | No problems here, so it's a conflict |
| 01:54.37 | vid` | it was spewing msgs in chat about being in combat and not being able ot update raid frames |
| 01:54.39 | vid` | or some shit |
| 01:54.45 | Nomad_Wanderer | you should have ppl post addon lists and compare them |
| 01:54.47 | vid` | everytime someone would join/leave raid |
| 01:54.49 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3876.0#new <- oh man |
| 01:55.03 | vid` | thats what made me think it was clique |
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| 01:55.13 | Nomad_Wanderer | hehehe mik |
| 01:55.23 | vid` | well Prophyy see if that fixes it |
| 01:55.30 | vid` | if it does post up your addons and we can compare |
| 01:55.35 | Mikma | ag`: did you have a look at the Scaling-issue of agUF? |
| 01:56.11 | Prophyy | hmm not using clique |
| 01:56.32 | Prophyy | using aguf though..disabled ora2..same thing |
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| 01:57.49 | Mikma | hi mailmaster |
| 01:59.03 | Hjalte | Can anyone help me with a macro: /cast [target=targetoftarget] Shadow Bolt - Shouldnt this cast a shadow bolt on my targets target? |
| 02:00.49 | ckknight|work | yes, Hjalte |
| 02:00.57 | nymbia | delete the 'of' |
| 02:01.09 | ckknight|work | oh, yea, right |
| 02:01.12 | ckknight|work | it's targettaret |
| 02:01.16 | ckknight|work | targettarget* |
| 02:01.36 | Hjalte | Thanks, both of you ;) |
| 02:02.36 | ckknight|work | clearly I deserve more credit and nymbia was just channeling my awesome power |
| 02:02.41 | ckknight|work | jk ;-) |
| 02:02.44 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23151 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/ (Bars.lua Core.lua Locals/enUS.lua): FuBar_WarlockTimerFu: Added clicking on a bar to print info |
| 02:03.16 | kagaro | back |
| 02:03.19 | anenigma | s/merk/merge/ |
| 02:03.25 | nymbia | ckknight|work: obviously. |
| 02:03.31 | TheKarn | nymbia, break my feature in baggins plx |
| 02:03.33 | kagaro | whats up with svn? |
| 02:03.35 | TheKarn | s/break/check/ |
| 02:03.38 | nymbia | break what? |
| 02:03.45 | nymbia | oh |
| 02:03.49 | Ominous | anyone have any ideas about howi can count reapplication of debuffs as there is not combat log event for them |
| 02:03.56 | kagaro | subversion/libsvn_ra_dav/util.c:780: (apr_err=160006) |
| 02:03.57 | kagaro | svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/23151' |
| 02:03.57 | kagaro | subversion/libsvn_ra_dav/util.c:368: (apr_err=160006) |
| 02:04.00 | nymbia | ok what's the branch url? (i'm lazy) |
| 02:04.00 | TheKarn | ckknight|work, http://ace.pastey.net/4413 is it ok to commit that? |
| 02:04.14 | Mikma | kagaro: bork |
| 02:04.28 | kagaro | keeps failing trying to update |
| 02:05.08 | Mikma | kagaro: delete the addon and redownload |
| 02:05.24 | Nomad_Wanderer | :( all my arkinventory items were reset somehow :( |
| 02:05.42 | Mikma | Nomad_Wanderer: that's because you use ArkInventory :P try Baggins xD |
| 02:05.48 | ckknight|work | TheKarn: either rename Hue_2_Col or make it local |
| 02:05.49 | kagaro | yeah still fails, fetching the externals |
| 02:06.00 | Nomad_Wanderer | Is it like Engbags/arkinventory? |
| 02:06.05 | TheKarn | ah that meant to be Crayon:Hue_2_Col |
| 02:06.27 | TheKarn | and self:Hue_2_Col etc |
| 02:06.51 | ckknight|work | also, TheKarn, you're using some globals |
| 02:07.04 | ckknight|work | del_Max for instance |
| 02:07.14 | TheKarn | ah bollocks |
| 02:07.19 | TheKarn | lol |
| 02:07.24 | Hjalte | Nomad_Wanderer: Yes it is, but it has better support for Periodic table, making it easier to do categories for items |
| 02:07.44 | Mikma | Nomad_Wanderer: http://wow.reaktio.net/baggins.jpg |
| 02:07.50 | TheKarn | local var_H,var_S,var_L,var_Min,var_Max,del_Max,del_R,del_G,del_B |
| 02:07.51 | TheKarn | better? |
| 02:07.59 | Mikma | there's my Warlock/Engineer layout I made |
| 02:08.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yerah.. why no screenshots on the wiki? :p |
| 02:08.02 | ckknight|work | still icky |
| 02:08.09 | ckknight|work | don't commit, I'll audit after work |
| 02:08.24 | Nomad_Wanderer | hotty mchot tho. I'm convinced brb |
| 02:08.43 | TheKarn | ok ck, you're the boss |
| 02:08.52 | Ominous | anyone have any ideas about howi can count reapplication of debuffs to your target as there is not combat log event for them |
| 02:10.26 | TheKarn | hmm it isnt the most readable code is it? |
| 02:10.34 | nymbia | Ominous: use UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED |
| 02:10.51 | Ominous | yes but then it dosent count resisted, dodged etc |
| 02:11.17 | Mikma | TheKarn: what's the whole idea of that one? |
| 02:11.34 | TheKarn | converst RGB colours into HSL |
| 02:11.39 | nymbia | Ominous: if it's resisted or dodged then you'll have the combat log entry. |
| 02:12.04 | Ominous | hmm so you say update if off the event but if the resist then stop the bar? |
| 02:12.08 | TheKarn | i used it to rotate a color by x hue |
| 02:12.19 | CIA-17 | 03beerke * r23152 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.toc: |
| 02:12.19 | CIA-17 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 02:12.19 | CIA-17 | - TOC Update |
| 02:12.21 | TheKarn | local h,s,l = RGBtoHSL(r,g,b) |
| 02:12.30 | TheKarn | r,g,b = HSLtoRGB(h+x,s,l) |
| 02:12.50 | nymbia | Ominous: preferably go back to the old bar. but check it -- the combat log event might be before the spellcast event. shouldn't be, but make sure ;) |
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| 02:13.10 | ckknight|work | TheKarn: x? |
| 02:13.24 | Ominous | youvn confused me now |
| 02:13.35 | Ominous | s/youvn/you have |
| 02:13.36 | TheKarn | x being a value in [0,1) |
| 02:13.41 | ckknight|work | ah, I understand |
| 02:13.42 | ckknight|work | right. |
| 02:13.43 | TheKarn | lol |
| 02:13.54 | ckknight|work | TheKarn: you should make the hue loop, so 1.2 == 0.2 |
| 02:13.55 | ckknight|work | imho |
| 02:14.08 | TheKarn | ckknight ... if h>1 then h = h - 1 end |
| 02:14.22 | ckknight|work | also, < 0? |
| 02:14.26 | TheKarn | should really be while h > 1 do h = h - 1 end |
| 02:14.28 | TheKarn | yeah |
| 02:14.46 | ckknight|work | it really should be h = h % 1; if h < 0 then h = h + 1 end |
| 02:15.08 | TheKarn | i thought modulo only worked on integers |
| 02:15.20 | TheKarn | (not used it much in lua) |
| 02:15.42 | TheKarn | hmm i'll tidy that up then |
| 02:15.43 | ckknight|work | nah, lua doesn't have integers |
| 02:15.52 | ckknight|work | well, not really. |
| 02:15.52 | TheKarn | meh ... messy language |
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| 02:16.11 | TheKarn | and no casting either |
| 02:16.15 | TheKarn | so no (int)1.5 |
| 02:17.16 | kagaro | ck: how do I add a seperator line (or is that even possible) in Tablet? |
| 02:17.24 | ckknight|work | :AddLine() |
| 02:17.28 | Nomad_Wanderer | strange i dont see baggins in duececommander |
| 02:17.30 | TheKarn | damn he beat me to it |
| 02:18.00 | TheKarn | Nomad_Wanderer, baggins doesnt have any slashcommands |
| 02:18.14 | TheKarn | it doesnt even use AceConsole |
| 02:18.27 | Ominous | nymbia: i am confused on what you mean? |
| 02:18.32 | kagaro | thanks |
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| 02:19.02 | nymbia | Ominous: just saying, be careful with those events, as they may fire in a weird order. |
| 02:19.09 | Ominous | k |
| 02:19.11 | Mikma | Nomad_Wanderer: baggins has full "dewdrop-gui" it uses |
| 02:19.39 | Nomad_Wanderer | IC, though it says my ad commission is trash ootb, so It does need a little configuring.. |
| 02:19.44 | Nomad_Wanderer | looks really neat tho |
| 02:20.40 | Nomad_Wanderer | looks really neat thohow do you configure it? |
| 02:20.51 | Ominous | nymbia: how much out of order could they be |
| 02:20.55 | ckknight|work | here's a fun fact: despite Dewdrop-2.0 not being part of the Ace core, it is used by nearly all graphical Ace addons. It theoretically (and much easier due to low number of authors) could be GPL'd. |
| 02:21.04 | Nomad_Wanderer | its lighter than ark/engbags too1 |
| 02:21.07 | ckknight|work | note: don't take that as a threat |
| 02:21.12 | ckknight|work | just an observation |
| 02:21.29 | nymbia | Ominous: well, there's only gonna be two types of events, the combat ones and the spell ones |
| 02:21.38 | Ominous | where can you view the GPL liscence? |
| 02:21.45 | Mikma | google |
| 02:22.02 | ckknight|work | Ominous: on the fsf website, but the CC website has a clearer explanation of it |
| 02:22.16 | ckknight|work | http://creativecommons.org/licenses/GPL/2.0/ |
| 02:22.16 | Ominous | CC? |
| 02:22.19 | Ominous | ah ty |
| 02:22.23 | TheKarn | ckk i'm tidying up that code now |
| 02:22.40 | ckknight|work | TheKarn: cool, I just care about the tidiness |
| 02:24.47 | TheKarn | is vR,vG,vB = vL,vL,vL acceptable? |
| 02:24.47 | Mikma | haste: meh |
| 02:27.06 | ckknight|work | oh yes, TheKarn |
| 02:27.23 | TheKarn | good, because it looks ugly on multiple lines |
| 02:27.34 | TheKarn | if only you could do vR=vG=vB=vL |
| 02:30.27 | Nomad_Wanderer | Wow. Baggins is very impressive |
| 02:30.54 | Goeb | how do you change an item's category in baggins? |
| 02:31.00 | Tain | Filthy Baggins! |
| 02:31.03 | Goeb | arkinventory was kinda... easy... |
| 02:31.10 | Tain | We hatess them! |
| 02:31.19 | Mikma | Tain: preciousssssss! |
| 02:32.00 | Nomad_Wanderer | This is better. |
| 02:32.19 | Nomad_Wanderer | PeriodicTable support is awesome.. In like a shock and awe kinda way |
| 02:33.04 | TheKarn | lol |
| 02:33.44 | TheKarn | Nomad_Wanderer, my branch has a way to list all the PT Sets an itemid is in, and choose one of them for the rule |
| 02:34.14 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thats a great idea.. y is it not merged/ |
| 02:34.23 | Goeb | karn- ahhhh... much better... MERGE! |
| 02:34.23 | TheKarn | hasnt really been tested |
| 02:34.27 | TheKarn | i only did it earlier |
| 02:34.36 | Nomad_Wanderer | I dont have svn. |
| 02:34.42 | TheKarn | and i havent asked the author permission to do it |
| 02:34.44 | Nomad_Wanderer | hot link it? |
| 02:34.45 | Mikma | i hate this freaking heartburn |
| 02:34.47 | TheKarn | only two files changed |
| 02:35.14 | Mikma | TheKarn: well commit is in and blame Tekkub, that's what we do |
| 02:35.49 | Nomad_Wanderer | I heard tekkub is Lex Luthor's protege |
| 02:37.31 | Goeb | baggins just blew up on me ;( |
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| 02:37.43 | Nomad_Wanderer | ss or it didnt happen |
| 02:37.45 | Goeb | now I can't open or close bags |
| 02:37.45 | Nomad_Wanderer | :p |
| 02:37.54 | Goeb | yeah yeah |
| 02:38.01 | CIA-17 | 03TheKarn 07TheKarn * r23153 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: bit of tidying |
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| 02:39.01 | Goeb | http://ace.pastey.net/4414 |
| 02:39.20 | Goeb | I deleted a bag and got that on confirm... now it's frozen |
| 02:40.19 | Mikma | and your bags were open when you did this? |
| 02:40.21 | Hjalte | Goeb: Some say that Nargiddley is out of town for a couple of days |
| 02:40.27 | Coolyo | is the bartender3 version bugged ? it doesnt work for my druid, the bars doesnt switch corectly after changing to bear, cat and travel form etc. |
| 02:40.30 | Goeb | yes, open |
| 02:40.37 | Coolyo | and key binds doesnt work either |
| 02:40.41 | Mikma | Coolyo: maybe |
| 02:40.59 | Mikma | Coolyo: and keybinds are located in blizzards keybindings menu |
| 02:41.02 | Goeb | mik- looks like I get more when trying to close or open them now |
| 02:41.19 | Nomad_Wanderer | It would be awesome to be able to use parsed item descriptions as part of baggins |
| 02:41.33 | Nomad_Wanderer | Like %nature resist% goes in this section |
| 02:41.40 | Goeb | yeah, just happens when bags are open... don't do that ;) |
| 02:41.41 | Mikma | Goeb: yeah i saw the same error some time ago. i deleted my sv and started over with more brains :P |
| 02:41.55 | Coolyo | Mikma: i know, helping a friend on lan setting it up, it works all fine on my own machine with key bindings and changing stance with my warrior, but for his druids its kinda fucked |
| 02:42.40 | kagaro | whats the bold font for use with tablet? |
| 02:42.41 | Goeb | PT is retarded for me :( Major Healing pots are in "Gathered" and Swiftness potions are "mats" |
| 02:43.12 | Tain | I blame Tekkub |
| 02:43.12 | Nomad_Wanderer | That might be the Shock part of shock and awe |
| 02:43.22 | TheKarn | why doesnt svn.wowace.com have my branch on it? |
| 02:43.34 | Mikma | yeah blame Tekkub, that's what we all do |
| 02:43.34 | Gngsk | my arrows appear in Other and Ammo is empty |
| 02:43.35 | Nomad_Wanderer | TheKarn I blame tekkub |
| 02:43.39 | ckknight|work | ~blame Tekkub |
| 02:43.40 | purl | ACTION blames Tekkub (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 02:43.40 | Gngsk | jagged arrows, that is |
| 02:43.40 | Mikma | TheKarn: reload :P |
| 02:44.04 | TheKarn | Not Found |
| 02:44.04 | TheKarn | The requested URL /wowace/branches/Baggins/ was not found on this server. |
| 02:44.14 | Goeb | right! back to ark inventory til baggins has more time to cook ;) |
| 02:44.35 | Mikma | well stop borking it |
| 02:44.36 | Tain | And Canada of course. |
| 02:44.40 | Mikma | let JoshBorke bork it |
| 02:44.52 | Goeb | but... borking is fun |
| 02:45.18 | Tain | Borka borka borka |
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| 02:46.43 | TheKarn | ~seen nargiddley |
| 02:47.00 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 15h 41m 34s ago, saying: 'but i'm always terrible at getting to sleep on time'. |
| 02:47.00 | Mikma | Tain: "For example, the Sea Otter says "Bork Bork!" (or for those users from Sweden, it says "Borka Borka!")" |
| 02:47.00 | Nomad_Wanderer | Strange, talking to the banker is opening the default bank frame |
| 02:47.00 | sergio | why does swapping weapons with bt3 cause extreme fps lag |
| 02:47.13 | Mikma | Nomad_Wanderer: not on me it ain't |
| 02:47.34 | Nomad_Wanderer | hmm.. it was doing it for arkinventory too, so it must be something else I have |
| 02:47.39 | TheKarn | can i have a sayso from an op to commit my changes? because people want them :) (Baggins) |
| 02:48.38 | Mikma | Nomad_Wanderer: some Minimalistic or so :P |
| 02:50.21 | ckknight|work | regarding licenses, how would people feel if the libraries were LGPL'd, but the addons themselves GPL'd (though that'd be at the discretion of the individual authors) |
| 02:50.35 | ckknight|work | cause I'll likely GPL my addons (FuBar, Cartographer, etc.) |
| 02:50.49 | Antiarc | I'd be happy if the libs were lgpl. |
| 02:51.01 | TheKarn | i'd be happy with libs being GPL tbh ... but LGPL is fine |
| 02:51.11 | TheKarn | and ckk its up to you if you want to GPL you're addons |
| 02:51.17 | DrZoot2 | I know what this error msg is trying to say but why are the versions the same? http://ace.pastey.net/4415 |
| 02:51.37 | ckknight|work | TheKarn: well, one important part is that libs I use will need to be GPL-compatible |
| 02:51.39 | ckknight|work | (afaik) |
| 02:51.56 | Mikma | AKX: noob |
| 02:52.33 | kagaro | ck: i think LGPL would be good enough |
| 02:53.31 | ckknight|work | it still creates the possibility for an RDX-style addon that uses Ace |
| 02:53.49 | jkw | Anyone know if it's possible to make some virtual 40man raid to be able to move groups around in sRaidFrames? |
| 02:53.51 | ckknight|work | and also allows for GMail-like situations (depending on the situation) |
| 02:54.47 | Mikma | ACE2RDX! |
| 02:55.13 | ckknight|work | RD-Axe |
| 02:55.41 | ckknight|work | I dunno, I'm not a GPL zealot, I just am trying to find the best solution for the community as a whole |
| 02:55.42 | Mikma | i still like the word "2B" = tube |
| 02:56.02 | kagaro | you only problem would be if someone commited something back the GPL'd code back into ace that would mean ace2 would have to be gpl from that point forward |
| 02:56.06 | ckknight|work | I see it as to-be |
| 02:56.09 | TheKarn | jkw i would love that feature |
| 02:56.14 | TheKarn | a fake raid would be great |
| 02:56.22 | kagaro | *from GPL'd code |
| 02:56.22 | ckknight|work | true, kagaro |
| 02:56.24 | Codayus | I'm getting frustrated trying to parse out the implications. The FSF seems to say contradictory things. :-/ |
| 02:56.37 | ckknight|work | Codayus: oh? |
| 02:57.02 | Goeb | just join an AV to move frames around |
| 02:57.03 | kagaro | LGPL or hell even a mozilla license protects you incase of back porting code |
| 02:58.19 | Codayus | Yeah...seems like it should be easier to understand... |
| 02:58.42 | ckknight|work | if we wanted to take GPL code and put it into LGPL code, the LGPL code would have to change its license |
| 02:58.58 | ckknight|work | which could all be avoided if everything was GPL :-P |
| 03:00.04 | TheKarn | would there be any way to "fake" a raid? |
| 03:01.20 | Tain | No TheKarn, you have to actually be in a raid for now. |
| 03:01.21 | ckknight|work | no, not really |
| 03:01.29 | Goeb | yata gone broke now too... don't see any totem buttons |
| 03:01.41 | Goeb | I think it's a bad night for me to be messin with addons :( |
| 03:02.09 | Ordog | Goeb did you fiddle with totemsets? |
| 03:02.14 | Goeb | nope |
| 03:02.18 | Goeb | not yet :) |
| 03:02.23 | Goeb | can't see any totems |
| 03:02.26 | Ordog | delete your savedvadiables of yata |
| 03:02.37 | Ordog | and they will show up again |
| 03:02.43 | Ordog | most likely |
| 03:02.47 | Goeb | yeah prolly |
| 03:02.51 | Tain | I had some problem with my savevars or wtf settings that was preventing me from logging in. I had to redo all of my WoW and addon settings from scratch. |
| 03:03.06 | Tain | It took me about an hour and I don't know if I have everything set yet. |
| 03:03.39 | Miles | damn... underestimated the amount of quests in hellfire peninsula |
| 03:04.26 | Tain | Oh ckknight there is still a bug in FuBar though. I ran into it before but I don't remember if I reported it or not, but I ran into it again. Had a second bar, detached it, and the background texture didn't show the full lenght of the bar. Part of the bar at the right hand side had no background. |
| 03:04.48 | ckknight|work | odd |
| 03:05.34 | FryGuy | [18:58:37] <@ckknight|work> if we wanted to take GPL code and put it into LGPL code, the LGPL code would have to change its license |
| 03:05.34 | FryGuy | [18:58:53] <@ckknight|work> which could all be avoided if everything was GPL :-P |
| 03:05.38 | FryGuy | no |
| 03:05.41 | FryGuy | you could ask the person |
| 03:05.46 | FryGuy | and they could say "ok go ahead" |
| 03:05.51 | FryGuy | then it would be ok |
| 03:05.52 | ckknight|work | FryGuy: yes, I know |
| 03:06.11 | Tain | I have had it happen before, but I didn't remember until I was doing my config again. It happend when there was a bar that was created by plugin overflow and had plugins on it, and then detached. |
| 03:06.13 | ckknight|work | but I'm saying without explicit permission (which may be too complicated to retrieve) |
| 03:06.13 | kenlyric | that relies on the good sense of other people, something ck has bitten by in the past few weeks... |
| 03:06.27 | ckknight|work | yea, pretty much. |
| 03:06.28 | Tain | If I created a new blank bar and then detached it there was no problem. |
| 03:06.50 | ckknight|work | I wish we could BSD and all be one big happy family, but it really just doesn't work that way in the real world |
| 03:06.52 | FryGuy | if everything was BSD too it would be fine too :p |
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| 03:06.59 | ckknight|work | hey Kaelten |
| 03:07.03 | kenlyric | relying on the good sense of everyone around you works in a Utopia. Not really in the real world. |
| 03:07.04 | Tain | Hey Kael |
| 03:07.15 | FryGuy | i just really dislike the GPL |
| 03:07.17 | ckknight|work | FryGuy: no, since someone could take my code, change it, and not let me use his changes |
| 03:07.27 | Kaelten | ello |
| 03:07.39 | kenlyric | honestly, if the one argument against GPL is that it limits inclusion in non GPL code, well, fudgem. |
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| 03:08.15 | Tain | Yes and no kenlyric. I'd like to agree with that but it is a big deal. |
| 03:08.22 | ckknight|work | FryGuy: for our weird situation where our code is de facto open and where we don't make money, GPL seems very viable. |
| 03:09.05 | kenlyric | really? Do we really care about having those people around? |
| 03:09.12 | ckknight|work | if you want to include my open code in your program, then your program should be open too, imho |
| 03:09.24 | FryGuy | that's really against what ace is about IMO |
| 03:09.28 | ckknight|work | kenlyric: we don't want to become more insular |
| 03:09.39 | Tain | It should be what all addons are about, FryGuy. |
| 03:09.39 | ckknight|work | we want to expand ourselves and work with others |
| 03:09.43 | ckknight|work | not shut them away |
| 03:09.51 | Tain | Of course that is naieve idealism. |
| 03:09.56 | kenlyric | ckknight|work: if it means insulating yourself from people who want to take your code but not be open in return? absolutly. |
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| 03:10.16 | ckknight|work | kenlyric: frankly in that case, I'd prefer not to deal with the antisocials as well. |
| 03:10.29 | kenlyric | and that seems to achieved by the GPL. |
| 03:10.37 | ckknight|work | right. |
| 03:10.39 | ckknight|work | which is why I'm pushing for GPL |
| 03:10.46 | kenlyric | Embrace and keep out the douchbags. |
| 03:11.00 | FryGuy | you are really sounding like a douchebag kenlyric |
| 03:11.20 | kenlyric | Why, because I don't like people who want to write closed source *wow mods* |
| 03:11.20 | ckknight|work | part of it is using the word "douchebag" |
| 03:11.27 | kagaro | ck: with GPL'd ace2 forking is gona be your only real worry |
| 03:11.27 | ckknight|work | I'd prefer to call them antisocials |
| 03:11.32 | Tain | I use the DouchebagPL |
| 03:11.33 | ckknight|work | it's easier/simpler that way |
| 03:11.39 | FryGuy | i just can't believe there's so many people that are in favor of this |
| 03:11.48 | ckknight|work | kagaro: actually working is extremely low-risk, as any changes can be resorbed. |
| 03:11.53 | ckknight|work | forking* |
| 03:11.55 | kenlyric | I can't believe anyone is against it. |
| 03:12.05 | Miles | err |
| 03:12.08 | ckknight|work | FryGuy: our community already shares |
| 03:12.17 | ckknight|work | why not just make it a de facto standard to share? |
| 03:12.26 | ckknight|work | you don't make money off your addons |
| 03:12.33 | Miles | how about just public domain, like about every addon out there? |
| 03:12.37 | ckknight|work | you don't make proprietary binary works from it |
| 03:12.46 | ckknight|work | Miles: almost no addons are public domain. |
| 03:12.48 | kenlyric | heh. |
| 03:12.48 | Kaelten | ckknight|work: well some people will be against it because of people like Cide, who the GPL would have killed his little stunt a few weeks ago. |
| 03:12.59 | FryGuy | because GPL is not free enough. |
| 03:13.07 | Kaelten | Miles: really no addon is Public Domain, unless specifically sated. |
| 03:13.19 | Miles | well, most are just MIT-like licensed afaik |
| 03:13.22 | Industrial | ive gone with the MIT license :P |
| 03:13.27 | Miles | 'feel free to use the code' style |
| 03:13.41 | Industrial | heh |
| 03:13.41 | Kaelten | Miles: By default the author holds all rightes. |
| 03:13.41 | ckknight|work | Kaelten: right, if Cide were using the GPL, he wouldn't've been able to make such a ruckus...at all |
| 03:13.59 | Tain | Screw Cide. I like what he's done and generally think he's a good guy, but some things just cross a certain line. And I think he does. |
| 03:14.04 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 03:14.08 | Industrial | what'd he do then |
| 03:14.10 | Industrial | linky |
| 03:14.17 | Kaelten | readless we need to resolve this, and quickly. |
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| 03:14.26 | ckknight|work | and we can't force him to use GPL, but if he were using my code, I wouldn't want him to come back bitching at me for trying to use his code |
| 03:14.29 | ckknight|work | that's all. |
| 03:14.41 | ckknight|work | basically, I want a nice quid-pro-quo solution |
| 03:14.44 | ckknight|work | GPL provides that |
| 03:14.45 | FryGuy | it shouldn't be the job of a LIBRARY to force something on people that uses it |
| 03:14.49 | Codayus | I've changed my mind - I think norganna has the right of it, and if Ace2 is GPL, then all Ace2 addons need to be licensed under a GPL-compatible license, but NOT under the GPL. |
| 03:14.54 | ckknight|work | I scratch your back, you scratch mine |
| 03:15.04 | Codayus | Also, I've decided that I hate all software licenses. Also, all copyright lawyers. |
| 03:15.13 | ckknight|work | Codayus: hey, me too! |
| 03:15.15 | Codayus | Seriously, my head hurts. :-( |
| 03:15.16 | kagaro | ck: LGPL for a library GPL for the addon itself |
| 03:15.25 | Tain | Honestly I don't think anything needs to be resolved. In nmy opinion licensing WoW addons is sort of like masturbation. It feels good but doesn't do anything in the end. |
| 03:15.27 | ckknight|work | kagaro: not sure about that, fully |
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| 03:15.31 | Herio | sorry to interrupt the discussion, but does anyone know where i can learn about how blizzard handles remembering where my frames were and such, it seems to be putting a hamper on my anchors =/ |
| 03:15.41 | FryGuy | in that text file i think |
| 03:15.44 | FryGuy | inside WTF |
| 03:15.47 | ckknight|work | Tain: yea, I frankly agree, but I want to work with norganna's community and put to rest any legal issues |
| 03:15.53 | FryGuy | like frame-layout.txt or something |
| 03:15.55 | Industrial | ckknight|work: why not just goth with an MIT/BSD license? |
| 03:15.58 | Herio | ah |
| 03:16.06 | ckknight|work | Industrial: cause I don't want anyone stealing my code |
| 03:16.08 | Industrial | s/goht/go/ |
| 03:16.09 | Herio | fryguy, do you know when it applies these? |
| 03:16.14 | Kaelten | kagaro: the GNU says that the LGPL license is not for all libraries |
| 03:16.14 | FryGuy | no :p |
| 03:16.18 | Herio | dag |
| 03:16.18 | Industrial | ckknight|work: its not stealing. its saying they can use it |
| 03:16.23 | ckknight|work | Industrial: thus the your scratch my back, I'll scratch yours |
| 03:16.37 | FryGuy | ckknight|work: that's stupid. |
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| 03:16.44 | Tain | Herio you sort of have to handle that yourself by doing setpoint() with your addons. |
| 03:16.52 | Industrial | ckknight|work: if ace gets the GPL license I wont use another ace addon. ever. |
| 03:16.54 | ckknight|work | I don't want it to be I scratch your back, hoping that you might scratch mine, but probably won't, cause you might be a dick |
| 03:17.01 | FryGuy | Industrial: me either. |
| 03:17.19 | ckknight|work | it'd be sad to lose you, especially for something so tawdry. |
| 03:17.23 | FryGuy | that's not the point of a library though |
| 03:17.30 | ckknight|work | what's the point of a library? |
| 03:17.39 | Industrial | i want the freedom to release anything i want, and to have anyone use thajt however they want |
| 03:17.40 | Herio | i'm trying to anchor my frames after VARIABLES_LOADED based on my sv, but it seems like the client is throwing a wrench in the works =/ |
| 03:17.42 | FryGuy | to make something you can use. |
| 03:17.59 | Miles | not getting forked over silly issues helps |
| 03:18.00 | ckknight|work | Industrial: but by using other people's code and reposting it on your own terms? |
| 03:18.03 | FryGuy | gpl is fine for addons |
| 03:18.07 | Industrial | ckknight|work: yes. |
| 03:18.08 | FryGuy | but it shouldn't be in ace proper |
| 03:18.18 | Industrial | I want that freedom |
| 03:18.35 | Industrial | (not that I will) |
| 03:18.37 | ckknight|work | I don't believe that it's necessary _for our community_ |
| 03:18.51 | kagaro | This General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into proprietary programs. If your program is a subroutine library, you may consider it more useful to permit linking proprietary applications with the library. If this is what you want to do, use the GNU Lesser General Public License instead of this License. |
| 03:18.57 | Miles | I won't give up the freedom to license an addon as MIT or whatever I want |
| 03:19.03 | ckknight|work | I'm trying to think in a very localized manner, just think about the WoW community in general, not about software in the real world |
| 03:19.04 | Coolyo | whats the name of ace2 castingbar ? instead of having the boring standard blizzard one -_- |
| 03:19.07 | Miles | not for something as basic as embedded libs |
| 03:19.08 | Industrial | but you are influencing every addon user. not just the ace community |
| 03:19.27 | ckknight|work | Miles: actually, you'll be able to license your addon as MIT even if Ace2 is GPL, since MIT is GPL-compatible |
| 03:19.34 | kagaro | meaning you decide to port an existing mod to use ace2 without author permission you break your own license as his is proprietary if not gpl'd as well |
| 03:19.35 | Miles | no it isn't |
| 03:19.44 | Industrial | Coolyo: wowace.com/file gogo search |
| 03:19.47 | Industrial | files* |
| 03:19.53 | FryGuy | Coolyo: ocb (from fuxsake.net i think) |
| 03:19.59 | Kaelten | ckknight|work: by default the GPL license only allows derived works to have the GPL license |
| 03:20.02 | FryGuy | but uh it's kind of broken. I use ecastingbar now |
| 03:20.11 | Miles | http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses |
| 03:20.23 | Coolyo | thought wowace.com/files/ had ine |
| 03:20.26 | Coolyo | ine = one |
| 03:20.31 | Tain | Ah just do what other people will do and ignore the license. |
| 03:20.42 | FryGuy | coolyo: no. otravi removed it from svn |
| 03:20.53 | FryGuy | which.. if ace was gpl, he wouldn't have been able to do |
| 03:20.55 | Herio | coolyo: i use oCB, but it isn't in /files anymore because the author pulled it |
| 03:21.18 | ckknight|work | Kaelten: actually, it just needs to be GPL-compatible, seeing as it combines upon usage, and the combined work becomes GPL-compatible, whereas the original stays in its own form. Seeing as MIT/BSD/LGPL have less restrictions than GPL, this is perfectly acceptable |
| 03:21.26 | Herio | he said you can get it on wowi when it's ready, i don't know if you can get it currently at fuxsake.net (his site) |
| 03:21.33 | FryGuy | even though I disagree with haste, he should be allowed to do that with his addon |
| 03:21.49 | Industrial | he is cause its his addon :P |
| 03:22.00 | ckknight|work | basically, if you use my code, why should you not adhere to the terms I say? |
| 03:22.05 | Industrial | just like im removing idChatLegacy right no \o/ |
| 03:22.10 | Industrial | now* |
| 03:22.42 | FryGuy | ckknight|work: the thing is.. it's not really using your "code".. it's using your "library" |
| 03:22.42 | Tular | Is there anyway to get ClosetGnome to change outfits when I switch druid forms? |
| 03:22.56 | ckknight|work | FryGuy: that is using my code. |
| 03:23.17 | FryGuy | it is, but it isn't |
| 03:23.18 | Miles | no wonder people start moving away from ace2 |
| 03:23.19 | ckknight|work | FryGuy: I spent time writing it. Why should you be able to use it without restriction? |
| 03:23.43 | Codayus | Because freedom is good? :-) |
| 03:23.49 | ckknight|work | I just want to hear your logic about it |
| 03:24.03 | ckknight|work | freedom for who, Codayus? |
| 03:24.14 | deltron | anyone know a good mod just to tell you vendor prices? |
| 03:24.14 | Industrial | everyone. |
| 03:24.17 | Tain | The only thing I will agree with is that someone shouldn't be able to sell their addon for cash based on your work. |
| 03:24.19 | deltron | nothing else really needed |
| 03:24.23 | Mikma | muah, i just got my wow to semicrash with nurfed |
| 03:24.24 | Mikma | gg me :D |
| 03:24.27 | kenlyric | Tain, they can do that with MIT license. |
| 03:24.32 | Herio | speaking of closetgnome, anyone know if rabbit did that rewrite he posted about (among other things to add handling duplicate items with diff enchants)? |
| 03:24.40 | ckknight|work | Tain: or LGPL |
| 03:24.47 | Industrial | Herio: go go svn history |
| 03:24.59 | Herio | ah |
| 03:25.03 | Herio | silly me |
| 03:25.04 | ckknight|work | Tain: or GPL, but it's a hell of a lot harder and would be shut down instantly since the code could be rereleased for free |
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| 03:25.29 | FryGuy | the thing is |
| 03:25.34 | Industrial | there we go |
| 03:25.35 | FryGuy | people don't change ace |
| 03:25.35 | Tain | I'm not suggesteing that licenses agains that are bad, but when it comes to WoW I wouldn't use a license that restricts me too much just out of principle. Which is somewhat illogical, but still realistic. |
| 03:25.47 | FryGuy | they USE it |
| 03:26.02 | FryGuy | it has a set of published interfaces, and they are accessed |
| 03:26.03 | Mikma | Industrial: noes you deleted some stuff! |
| 03:26.10 | Industrial | Mikma: oh noes yes i did |
| 03:26.16 | Miles | you aren't allowed to make money with addons anyway, what's the deal? |
| 03:26.16 | Industrial | Mikma: my stuff. |
| 03:26.23 | kenlyric | Miles, sure you are. |
| 03:26.31 | Codayus | The idea is, you restrict what people can do with your code, in the hope that eventually the community will benefit by having a lot of GPL code around. The risk is that people will simply not use your code at all, and the community will suffer because nobody is using Ace2 at all... |
| 03:26.32 | Mikma | Industrial: yeah, they sucked anyway ;) |
| 03:26.42 | Industrial | Mikma: up yours buddy :D |
| 03:26.44 | ckknight|work | FryGuy: right. You're using the code that I wrote, we agree on that, yes? |
| 03:26.46 | Mikma | Industrial: :D |
| 03:27.04 | FryGuy | maybe. i might be using code that Kaelten wrote :p |
| 03:27.13 | ckknight|work | probably a mixture, actually. |
| 03:27.17 | Industrial | ckknight|work: ace2 isnt only your product |
| 03:27.21 | Industrial | clads too |
| 03:27.23 | Industrial | etc |
| 03:27.28 | Codayus | Kind of a gamble. If you win, everyone is writing GPL code, and everyone happy. Or you can go with the "safe" option - proprietary addons can use your code, but hey, at least your code is out there, being used, making the world a better place. :-) |
| 03:27.31 | TheKarn | Kaelten doesn't write code, he sneezes on his keyboard and attempts to wipe it off |
| 03:27.50 | Industrial | ckknight|work: and you have to get avery contributor to ace2 to agree on using GPL |
| 03:27.50 | FryGuy | :@ |
| 03:27.54 | Kaelten | TheKarn: :P |
| 03:28.01 | TheKarn | hey babe |
| 03:28.02 | TheKarn | :) |
| 03:28.15 | Mikma | attention gained? 100% |
| 03:28.18 | Codayus | (That's why the FSF recommends LGPL for libraries in cases where there's a comparable proprietary alternative, and GPL otherwise.) |
| 03:28.27 | CIA-17 | 03grennon * r23157 10/branches/GMail/ (GMail.toc GMail_DejaVu/ GMail_Test/): GMail: remove last-mailed from Express, added it as DejaVu mod, remove GMail_Test |
| 03:28.33 | kenlyric | Codayus, so GPL is it then. |
| 03:28.38 | ckknight|work | Codayus: that's why they made http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html |
| 03:28.41 | kenlyric | unless you want to count cosmos ;) |
| 03:28.42 | Miles | embedded libs have to be relicensed too, I don't see that happening |
| 03:28.46 | Herio | it seems like licencing ace will end up just throwing up a flag that says "party over here" if you know what i mean >.> |
| 03:28.50 | Codayus | ckknight|work: That explains it well, yes. |
| 03:29.01 | kagaro | ck: what version of GPL were you thinking of anyways? |
| 03:29.04 | Codayus | kenlyric: Actually, the proprietary alternative in this case would be just not using Ace2 at all. |
| 03:29.09 | ckknight|work | kagaro: "v2 or later" |
| 03:29.33 | kagaro | ck: cause v3 is being avoided like the plague |
| 03:29.40 | CIA-17 | 03grennon 07GMail_DejaVu * r23158 10GMail/GMail_DejaVu.lua: GMail: add the actual DejaVu lua file, doh |
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| 03:29.43 | FryGuy | ckknight|work: that's why nobody likes RMS :p |
| 03:29.52 | kenlyric | oooh. |
| 03:30.00 | ckknight|work | RMS is a douchebag, I will admit |
| 03:30.07 | kenlyric | "antisocial" |
| 03:30.11 | ckknight|work | I'm not a GPL zealot, so you know. |
| 03:30.20 | Coolyo | can u bind wardrobe item setups ? making a macro using /wardrobe wear "itemset name" and then bind it to a key doesnt work :/ |
| 03:30.20 | Codayus | Douchebag? That's an insult to douchebags everywhere! |
| 03:30.23 | FryGuy | heh |
| 03:30.32 | kenlyric | He completely brainwashes you if you see him talk live. You think he has really good ideas. |
| 03:30.35 | FryGuy | what's funny is I didn't even click the article before I opened the link |
| 03:30.42 | FryGuy | but yet.. i was right |
| 03:31.07 | Tain | He's a perfect example of a person with great technical ability who shouldn't be given a microphone. |
| 03:31.08 | grennon | the coolest guy ive talked to is rasterman |
| 03:31.23 | Ominous | how can you make a for i=1, x do end happen every time there is a menu request? |
| 03:31.29 | grennon | he just cares about users having a good experience, versus how free he thinks they should be |
| 03:31.34 | grennon | and hes an old school amiga guy |
| 03:31.51 | Codayus | Eric Raymond is cooler. Not noticably SANER, you understand. Just...not quite so...RMSish. oO |
| 03:31.57 | kenlyric | the motto of RMS: It may suck, but at least it's free. |
| 03:32.35 | FryGuy | free* |
| 03:32.42 | Tain | He's just an example of an extreme. Extremes aren't good. But he is right about a lot of things. |
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| 03:32.43 | FryGuy | he has a very narrow definition of free :p |
| 03:34.00 | Codayus | Mmm, if you do your cause more harm than good, I'm not sure what being "right" is worth... |
| 03:34.47 | Kaelten | really it looks like we're going to go with the LGPL |
| 03:36.26 | Ominous | ckknight: hi |
| 03:36.57 | Ominous | ckknight: how do you makke a for i=1, x do end function run every time a menu request is done |
| 03:39.57 | Hjalte | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/833.html - If i use this library, you will receive 3 worms? |
| 03:43.29 | Mikma | Kaelten: Lesbian GPL? |
| 03:43.47 | Kaelten | Mikma: I thnk you'd enjoy that too much |
| 03:44.09 | Kaelten | ~lart mikma |
| 03:45.26 | Gngsk | rm -rf mikma |
| 03:45.56 | Mikma | you must be root. |
| 03:46.14 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r23159 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare.lua - added deDE localization |
| 03:46.22 | Tain | Woo gonna head out to Vegas the end of the month. |
| 03:47.28 | Kaelten | rm -rf mikma |
| 03:47.56 | Hjalte | EU realms going down :'( |
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| 03:49.15 | TheKarn | nn all :) |
| 03:50.07 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23160 10Cartographer_Stats/ (. Cartographer_Stats.lua Cartographer_Stats.toc): Cartographer_Stats: initial import gathering statistics module |
| 03:50.24 | Mikma | 1 restart in every year keeps irssi working ;) |
| 03:51.02 | Mikma | + now my address is showing again instead of ip. thathaa -> |
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| 03:56.39 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r23161 10BugSack/BugSack-koKR.lua: BugSack - update koKR locals |
| 03:57.28 | Kaelten | everyone join me ! |
| 03:58.31 | vid` | nice |
| 03:58.34 | vid` | whispercast works :) |
| 03:58.39 | vid` | they use macros |
| 03:58.44 | vid` | and rewrite the macro so it works in combat |
| 03:58.48 | vid` | apparantly |
| 03:58.54 | vid` | and you just bang the macro hotkey |
| 03:59.03 | anenigma | I thought you couldn't rewrite macros in combat? |
| 03:59.31 | vid` | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4795 |
| 03:59.32 | vid` | shrug |
| 03:59.36 | vid` | dunno how it works exactly |
| 03:59.39 | vid` | someone smart look at it |
| 03:59.43 | vid` | maybe they can get detox working again :P |
| 03:59.52 | vid` | not that it matters cause it would be broken next patch |
| 04:00.15 | Kaelten | well if all a macro does is call a function |
| 04:00.33 | Kaelten | that gets rewritten |
| 04:00.37 | Kaelten | hrm, maybe |
| 04:00.51 | vid` | Automatic available spell selection based on your class |
| 04:00.51 | vid` | -Smart rank selection based on your targets level |
| 04:00.56 | vid` | -Can hide buff/cure request whispers |
| 04:00.58 | vid` | ^^^^' |
| 04:01.00 | vid` | ok |
| 04:01.09 | vid` | someone make a mod to automatically send a tell to mages asking for decurse |
| 04:01.17 | vid` | and whispercast auto decurses |
| 04:01.19 | vid` | :P |
| 04:01.22 | Tain | It's a long December and there's no reason to believe that this year will be better than the last. |
| 04:02.02 | vid` | and boohoo it only works with titan |
| 04:02.04 | vid` | no fubar support |
| 04:02.05 | vid` | :( |
| 04:02.35 | kagaro | ck: did you get a chance to implement Dewdrop confirm message thing? |
| 04:02.57 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r23162 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: add koKR locals |
| 04:03.36 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23163 10FuBar_LoadLODFu/ (. FuBar_LoadLODFu.toc LoadLOD.lua): FuBar_LoadLODFu: Initial commit |
| 04:04.15 | kagaro | gahh this is pissing me off, why do the externals co keep failing |
| 04:06.47 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r23164 10Cartographer_Hotspot/Cartographer_Hotspot.lua: |
| 04:06.47 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Hotspot: |
| 04:06.47 | CIA-17 | - added deDE localization; partly not satisfying, suggestions welcome |
| 04:07.28 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23165 10FuBar_LoadLODFu/ (. FuBar_LoadLODFu.toc LoadLOD.lua): FuBar_LoadLODFu: externals |
| 04:09.45 | Ominous | well eu relms have just shut down |
| 04:09.48 | anenigma | Hmm. That new WhisperCast seems to go through your raid/party to find the person who requested the cast, and then target them by using party1-4 or raid1-40, whichever is appropriate |
| 04:10.10 | Nomad_Wanderer | that sounds expensive |
| 04:10.48 | vid` | wow |
| 04:10.53 | vid` | xbox360 looks sick on this 22" lcd |
| 04:10.58 | vid` | heh |
| 04:11.58 | Meiun|| | xbox360 + hdtv projector = biglove |
| 04:12.02 | vid` | hehe |
| 04:12.11 | vid` | im just playing 720p |
| 04:12.14 | vid` | through vga cable |
| 04:12.14 | Meiun|| | i just need alot of money ;F |
| 04:12.18 | vid` | this monitor has HDMI |
| 04:12.20 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r23166 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2.lua: |
| 04:12.20 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 04:12.20 | CIA-17 | - updated deDE localization |
| 04:12.22 | vid` | but 360 has no hdmi |
| 04:13.10 | anenigma | I can't seem to find where whispercast is actually "casting" this spell either. |
| 04:13.10 | vid` | and logitech z5500's hooked up with optical through x-fi |
| 04:14.11 | Meiun|| | sweet |
| 04:14.33 | vid` | my pc is my entertainment system :P |
| 04:14.51 | Meiun|| | :> |
| 04:15.00 | Soulless | bugsack error with latest version? |
| 04:15.04 | vid` | one thing tho i think i need to make this 19" the primary display |
| 04:15.08 | vid` | so the start menu is over here |
| 04:15.11 | Soulless | looks like a bad loop somewhere |
| 04:15.16 | Meiun|| | just move the startmenu |
| 04:15.22 | Meiun|| | unlock + drag |
| 04:15.26 | vid` | ah |
| 04:15.52 | vid` | cause i have to switch my LCD to vga from dvi |
| 04:16.00 | vid` | so i lose use of the 22" when im playing 360 |
| 04:19.47 | Ominous | is anyone here a warlock and on us servers and in 20mins could maybe test a branch for me |
| 04:20.09 | Soulless | anybody wanna to commit this typo fix in bugsack? |
| 04:20.31 | pastamancer | Ominous: I have a level 12 warlock :) |
| 04:20.38 | Ominous | pasta: same :p |
| 04:21.04 | Soulless | if somebody can, the line about end) (this is line 80) needs a } |
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| 04:22.16 | kagaro | any svn admins on ? |
| 04:23.28 | Ominous | Soul: which file |
| 04:23.35 | sylvanaar | Soulless: what are you talking about |
| 04:23.40 | Soulless | oh, yeah lol the file |
| 04:23.46 | Soulless | it was in the korean locale file |
| 04:23.49 | Soulless | but it might have been fixed |
| 04:24.00 | Ominous | nope |
| 04:24.01 | Soulless | <CIA-17> damjau * r23161 BugSack/BugSack-koKR.lua: BugSack - update koKR locals |
| 04:24.10 | Soulless | the return thing isn't closed |
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| 04:24.18 | CIA-17 | 03nirek * r23167 10Evpsets/ (Evpsets.lua Evpsets.toc): Evpsets: Fix Warlock Ally epic set |
| 04:24.47 | PProvost | Hello everyone |
| 04:24.53 | Soulless | ok, so who uses clearfont2? |
| 04:25.01 | kagaro | anyone else having problmes updating externals? |
| 04:25.27 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23168 10BugSack/BugSack-koKR.lua: BugSack: fixed koKR syntax error |
| 04:25.33 | Soulless | is it really worth upgrading from original? cuz i usually say if it ain't broke don't fix it, but i might wanna update just for little shit |
| 04:25.37 | Soulless | ty Ominous |
| 04:25.38 | PProvost | I stopped using clearfont and just started doing it myself with a Fonts folder. |
| 04:27.19 | Soulless | i could prob do that, but i'd need an addon to change the font in my chatboxes, as they're need to fixwidth, unlike the fonts i like everywhere else |
| 04:27.48 | PProvost | You can replace each of the Blizz fonts with one of your choice by putting the right names in Fonts. |
| 04:27.55 | PProvost | One of the blizz ones is the monospace font. |
| 04:28.00 | Soulless | yes i know |
| 04:28.08 | PProvost | I dunno... I just use the same one for all of my UI. Works for me. |
| 04:28.15 | Soulless | but i use 4 fonts everywhere, and then a ddifferent font for my chatbox |
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| 04:28.44 | Soulless | which you couldn't do with just that, though i prob don't need clearfont for that |
| 04:29.38 | DrZoot2 | Im using a repeating aceevent to animate some health/mana bars, I just noticed that when the bar values arent changing the increasing memory is 0 but when the bars start to change/animate the increasing memory usuage shoots up to about 20 - 22 KiB/s is this normal/acceptable or have I dont something wrong somewhere? |
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| 04:32.25 | pastamancer | DrZoot2: pastey |
| 04:32.44 | pastamancer | 20-22 KiB/s is enough that people are going to complain |
| 04:34.25 | DrZoot2 | pastamancer, what do you want me to pastey? Ive got a fair amount of code |
| 04:34.26 | Gngsk | I used AceEvent to fade the borders on aguf in and hour, .1-.5 KiB/s |
| 04:34.26 | vid` | over 20? |
| 04:34.27 | vid` | damn |
| 04:34.31 | vid` | get a new pc~ |
| 04:34.35 | vid` | with ram! |
| 04:34.50 | pastamancer | DrZoot2: the function that gets called by youre repeating aceevent |
| 04:34.53 | vid` | only thing ive found that goes nuts |
| 04:34.57 | vid` | is MCPfu |
| 04:35.08 | vid` | i get 3000KiB/sec when MCP menu is up in battlegrounds for some reason |
| 04:35.18 | vid` | then it drops back to 3 when i close it |
| 04:35.46 | vid` | and yea 3k, not 300 |
| 04:39.11 | DrZoot2 | pastamancer, actually before I paste the code is there a way to force a variable to be GC'd ? |
| 04:39.27 | pastamancer | you don't want to force a GC |
| 04:40.09 | KarlThePagan | allocate fewer variables > gc more |
| 04:43.40 | DrZoot2 | hrmm well by the sounds of it my problem is that Im allocating to many vars, its quite a big function and its getting called alot. |
| 04:44.05 | KarlThePagan | cut down number of tables esp |
| 04:44.16 | KarlThePagan | easy to go crazy there |
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| 04:45.34 | DrZoot2 | heres the code: http://ace.pastey.net/4419 (try not to laugh pls :D ) |
| 04:47.00 | pastamancer | line 58 is what's doing it |
| 04:47.12 | pastamancer | or at least is most likely |
| 04:48.13 | KarlThePagan | how to fix... maybe a recursive merge sort? |
| 04:48.47 | KarlThePagan | if you need to sort at all |
| 04:49.19 | pastamancer | is barSorter sorting based on value? |
| 04:49.49 | DrZoot2 | yes |
| 04:50.29 | DrZoot2 | it sorts the % value of the bars to make sure that the layering is correct |
| 04:50.44 | pastamancer | oh, but ProviderSandbox isn't a local |
| 04:51.36 | pastamancer | define a work table outside the function declaration, clear it out befor using it with a for k in pairs(worktable) worktable[k] = nil end |
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| 04:51.55 | pastamancer | then stick the names in the work table |
| 04:52.05 | pastamancer | and have your sort function look up the value in providersandbox |
| 04:52.28 | pastamancer | does that make sense? |
| 04:52.34 | SP|Sorren | hey what happened to ocb? is it coming back? |
| 04:52.56 | pastamancer | haste moved |
| 04:53.17 | SP|Sorren | moved? |
| 04:53.26 | DrZoot2 | I think so, were moving the table that gets sorted outside the function and clearing it before use, so that way i dont create a new one with each paint call |
| 04:53.56 | Gngsk | SP|Sorren, http://code.google.com/p/wow-haste/ && fuxsake.net |
| 04:53.58 | pastamancer | DrZoot2: yes and also removing the table creation from your loop that fills the sort table |
| 04:54.40 | DrZoot2 | pastamancer, ok ill give that a try, thankyou for your help I appreciate it alot |
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| 05:08.37 | SP|Sorren | Gngsk: thx |
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| 05:15.34 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23169 10Prat/Prat/ (31 files in 2 dirs): Prat: JFC...nuff said |
| 05:21.53 | pastamancer | curious... UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED player LOGINEFFECT |
| 05:24.12 | KarlThePagan | pasta honorless target maybe? |
| 05:24.26 | pastamancer | nah, just zoning into the deeprun tram |
| 05:24.39 | KarlThePagan | doesn't honorless happen on every zone? |
| 05:25.00 | pastamancer | I don't get the debuff |
| 05:25.07 | KarlThePagan | hmm |
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| 05:29.44 | ckknight | hey all |
| 05:30.30 | andremar | heyhey |
| 05:30.54 | KarlThePagan | yarrrrrr |
| 05:32.10 | andremar | it's not talk like a pirate day yet :p |
| 05:32.35 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r23170 10Baggins/ (Baggins-koKR.lua Baggins.lua Baggins.toc): Baggins: add koKR locals |
| 05:32.41 | ckknight | harrrrr |
| 05:33.00 | KarlThePagan | that be every day fer me ye landlubber! |
| 05:33.14 | Soulless | isn't korean still on 1.12? |
| 05:33.30 | ckknight | I don't think so |
| 05:34.05 | pastamancer | that would be silly |
| 05:43.28 | Gnarfoz | <KarlThePagan> doesn't honorless happen on every zone? <- it does |
| 05:43.32 | Gnarfoz | and it's a buff, not a debuff |
| 05:45.13 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r23171 10FuBar_switcherFu/switcherFu.lua: |
| 05:45.13 | CIA-17 | FuBar_switcherFu |
| 05:45.13 | CIA-17 | - Added locals koKR |
| 05:49.03 | CIA-17 | 03pastamancer * r23172 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: |
| 05:49.03 | CIA-17 | SpecialEventsEmbed: |
| 05:49.03 | CIA-17 | - Auras: if we scan all auras on PLAYER_LOGIN it causes problems with addons whose OnEnable hasn't been called yet. Let's just wait for a real aura event instead. |
| 05:49.08 | vid` | anyone know why i cant play wow in widescreen res? |
| 05:49.13 | vid` | it only sees 1280x1024 max res |
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| 05:49.30 | vid` | even tho i can run 1680x1050 now |
| 05:49.34 | vid` | wow wont |
| 05:49.39 | KarlThePagan | :/ |
| 05:49.40 | vid` | someone said its cause im using multimonitor |
| 05:49.41 | Tem | you can force it |
| 05:49.44 | KarlThePagan | directx is wierd that way |
| 05:49.50 | Tem | oh, maybe not |
| 05:49.53 | vid` | someone said my 22" needs to be monitor "1" |
| 05:50.01 | KarlThePagan | i have only some of my wide resolutions shown |
| 05:50.02 | vid` | and my old 19" needs to be monitor "2" |
| 05:50.04 | KarlThePagan | I just play in a window |
| 05:50.08 | vid` | i play window too |
| 05:50.09 | Tem | I just got a 22" for christmas |
| 05:50.11 | vid` | but it doesnt scale res |
| 05:50.14 | vid` | it just blows up the UI |
| 05:50.16 | Tem | <3 16:10 |
| 05:50.19 | KarlThePagan | ah |
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| 05:50.27 | vid` | er |
| 05:50.30 | vid` | i mean it does scale |
| 05:50.32 | vid` | and blows it up |
| 05:50.37 | vid` | it doesnt give you more real estate |
| 05:50.41 | vid` | which i want for UI :) |
| 05:50.43 | vid` | noo |
| 05:50.45 | vid` | boo! |
| 05:50.51 | vid` | lemme try swapping monitors i guess? ;\ |
| 05:50.52 | Meiun|| | installed monitor drivers? |
| 05:50.54 | KarlThePagan | yea I think you can change your config.wtf to force your aspect ratio |
| 05:50.56 | vid` | tea |
| 05:51.00 | vid` | ahh lemme look |
| 05:51.19 | KarlThePagan | SET gxResolution "1440x900" |
| 05:51.43 | sylvanaar | man this is so aggrivating |
| 05:52.12 | vid` | yea |
| 05:52.18 | vid` | i just set it to 1680x1050 |
| 05:52.19 | vid` | guess ill see |
| 05:52.47 | Tem | pastamancer, your unitframe code won't work with the raid header |
| 05:53.09 | pastamancer | Tem: It won't? |
| 05:53.12 | Tem | no |
| 05:53.31 | vid` | wow dropped back to 800x600 |
| 05:53.40 | Tem | The raid header anchors it's children to the one "above" it |
| 05:53.52 | vid` | set hwDetect to 1 |
| 05:53.54 | vid` | see if that helps |
| 05:53.54 | vid` | hmm |
| 05:53.58 | pastamancer | the raid header should be anchoring the container frame |
| 05:54.06 | vid` | let it redetect my shit |
| 05:54.09 | Tem | it will be anchoring your raid headers |
| 05:54.09 | vid` | oediv1785 |
| 05:54.15 | vid` | lol |
| 05:54.15 | Tem | s/raid/state/ |
| 05:54.58 | pastamancer | it can be hacked into submission though |
| 05:55.14 | Tem | how do you figure? |
| 05:55.30 | Tem | you can't alter it or else anything that gets created it combat will fail miserably |
| 05:55.45 | pastamancer | use a custom xml template |
| 05:55.59 | pastamancer | and have the "container" create the state header in OnLoad |
| 05:56.12 | Tem | that wouldn't work |
| 05:56.15 | pastamancer | no? |
| 05:56.35 | Tem | the state header owns any frames it manages |
| 05:56.38 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r23173 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua: Cartographer_Stats: Added locals koKR |
| 05:56.49 | Tem | meaning it calls :SetParent on them |
| 05:56.58 | pastamancer | laaame |
| 05:57.05 | pastamancer | that sucks |
| 05:57.12 | Tem | what you need is 2.0.3 |
| 05:57.22 | Tem | make the header resize itself |
| 05:58.04 | pastamancer | so drop the container and SetAttribute("width", ...) on the header? |
| 05:58.39 | Tem | no |
| 05:58.58 | pastamancer | this is my first time playing around with the state header |
| 05:58.58 | Tem | check the changes thread for my comments on header resizing |
| 05:59.01 | Tem | ah |
| 05:59.17 | Tem | actually, it should be in the header's beta file now |
| 05:59.36 | Tem | at least, I think the header resize code got into the latest beta |
| 05:59.40 | pastamancer | hrm, the 2.0.2 changes thread in the ui/macros forum? |
| 05:59.48 | Tem | that's the one |
| 05:59.54 | Tem | slouken just copied/pasted them out |
| 06:01.29 | Tem | pastamancer, post 82 |
| 06:01.40 | Tem | (page 5) |
| 06:01.42 | pastamancer | thanks, that's a long thread |
| 06:01.51 | pastamancer | I was still on page 4 |
| 06:02.32 | Tem | hehe |
| 06:02.53 | Tem | oh heh... the header size stuff is um |
| 06:03.34 | Tem | understated... there |
| 06:06.04 | Tem | it's more or less a simple as adding a "headheight" and/or "headwidth" attribute that maps states to a desired width or height in that state |
| 06:06.12 | pastamancer | ok, thanks. posted a followup |
| 06:07.14 | pastamancer | I was really hoping 2.0.2 would come today :( |
| 06:07.29 | Tem | on live? |
| 06:07.36 | pastamancer | yeah |
| 06:07.42 | Tem | nah |
| 06:07.51 | pastamancer | it's been on the background downloader for a while |
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| 06:07.56 | Tem | it's BC release |
| 06:08.05 | pastamancer | next wait is just soooo far away :p |
| 06:08.10 | pastamancer | s/wait/week/ |
| 06:08.18 | ckknight | hey Tekkub |
| 06:08.41 | pastamancer | err, oh no, two weeks... what will I do! |
| 06:08.46 | Tem | hehe |
| 06:08.48 | Tem | oh dear god |
| 06:08.58 | Tem | please tell me I didn't forget what I think I forgot |
| 06:09.20 | pastamancer | I hope not |
| 06:09.27 | ckknight | I still haven't ordered TBC :-P |
| 06:09.46 | vid` | yay |
| 06:09.47 | vid` | i got it towk |
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| 06:10.05 | Dhraga | Morning |
| 06:10.13 | Tem | ckknight, me either >< |
| 06:10.15 | ckknight | morning, Dhraga |
| 06:10.27 | pastamancer | doh, I've had it preordered for a while |
| 06:10.37 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23174 10Prat/Prat/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Prat: 22 Modules Accounted For |
| 06:10.59 | pastamancer | sylvanaar: how stable is your branch of Prat? I finally installed it. |
| 06:11.49 | Tem | gah I can't find the code |
| 06:11.59 | Tem | fucking bad install of bc |
| 06:12.19 | Tem | can anyone pastey the latest beta securestateheader.lua? |
| 06:12.32 | pastamancer | all of it? |
| 06:12.37 | Tem | all of it |
| 06:12.42 | pastamancer | sec |
| 06:13.41 | pastamancer | http://ace.pastey.net/4426 |
| 06:14.25 | vid` | wow framerate took a hit goin to 1680x1050 :P |
| 06:14.27 | vid` | lol |
| 06:15.00 | vid` | whats weird is im getting better framerates after turning the graphics options up |
| 06:15.04 | Tem | thanks, pastamancer |
| 06:15.07 | vid` | i thnk the video cards nowadays chug harder with eye candy off |
| 06:15.20 | pastamancer | I think that's current, let me fire up the beta client |
| 06:15.42 | Tem | that's not current, I don't think |
| 06:16.00 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23175 10Prat/Prat/modules/ (Highlight.lua Unused/ Unused/Highlight.lua): Prat: moving unused modules |
| 06:16.08 | pastamancer | oh, why so it's not |
| 06:16.22 | pastamancer | I could have sworn I logged in last week |
| 06:16.25 | Tem | it doesn't have my header size additions |
| 06:16.34 | Tem | and header parent |
| 06:16.52 | pastamancer | ack, 344MB for WoW-2.0.3-enUS-patch.app |
| 06:17.05 | pastamancer | no incremental patch :( |
| 06:18.30 | Tem | heh |
| 06:18.58 | CIA-17 | 03kodewulf * r23176 10Cartographer_Quests/ (. Cartographer_Quests.toc addon.lua): |
| 06:18.58 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests |
| 06:18.58 | CIA-17 | - Initial Import |
| 06:19.40 | pastamancer | well, I'll have it in an hour or two :( |
| 06:20.27 | Tem | I'll hopefully have the code in a few minutes |
| 06:23.00 | Makk | Raiding is meaningless, it is while afk that we are truly tested. |
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| 06:36.05 | sylvanaar | question |
| 06:36.29 | sylvanaar | if i register for an aceevnt in my moduleprototype |
| 06:36.40 | sylvanaar | that doesnt work does it |
| 06:36.54 | grennon | weird |
| 06:37.01 | grennon | SendMailMoneyFrame.onvalueChangedFunc just contains a function |
| 06:37.09 | grennon | but since its not a plain method i cant hook it? |
| 06:37.18 | ckknight | sure you can |
| 06:37.52 | grennon | i guess im just trying to hook it incorrectly |
| 06:38.00 | ckknight | possible |
| 06:38.07 | ckknight | pastey up |
| 06:38.24 | grennon | ive tried a few ways and then gave up and used a manual hook |
| 06:38.34 | grennon | and beat myself about the head with the acehook wiki page |
| 06:39.28 | ckknight | it's quite simple... |
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| 06:42.09 | sylvanaar | i cant figure out whats wrong with my code - http://ace.pastey.net/4428 |
| 06:43.02 | Dhraga | Hmm have I missed anything recently, according to a post on the eu forum someone if saying that agUf dont need mobhealth cause it got it's own built in ?? |
| 06:44.12 | ckknight | false, Dhraga |
| 06:44.44 | Dhraga | Ck, thanks... Yes I was thinking that also, but I had to ask |
| 06:44.53 | ckknight | sylvanaar: *shrug* |
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| 06:47.11 | sylvanaar | http://ace.pastey.net/4430 |
| 06:47.26 | sylvanaar | Never logs OnModuleEnable |
| 06:51.33 | sylvanaar | any idea at all what i am doing wrong? |
| 06:52.33 | pastamancer | where is self.db set? |
| 06:53.00 | sylvanaar | in the call to RegisterModule |
| 06:53.53 | pastamancer | hmm, have you added a debug print before togglemoduleactive to make sure it's being called with the right values? |
| 06:54.59 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:55.00 | sylvanaar | 49 (DEBUG) Prat:[00:45:37.593] Prat_ModuleEnabled - PlayerNames |
| 06:55.39 | sylvanaar | the 2nd one is from then line after self:OnModuleDisable() |
| 06:55.53 | pastamancer | hmm, then self:OnModuleEnable should be getting called |
| 06:56.09 | sylvanaar | i seems to be calling the one in the prototype |
| 06:56.17 | sylvanaar | i guess |
| 06:56.35 | pastamancer | add a print to that and check |
| 06:57.10 | pastamancer | it may be that you're calling ToggleModuleActive from OnInitialize though |
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| 06:57.56 | sylvanaar | which seems like 1(DEBUG) PlayerNames:[00:57:34.390] OnEnable() |
| 06:57.57 | sylvanaar | (DEBUG) PlayerNames:[00:57:34.390] modulePrototype:OnModuleEnable() |
| 06:57.57 | sylvanaar | (DEBUG) Prat:[00:57:34.390] Prat_ModuleEnabled - PlayerNames |
| 06:58.14 | sylvanaar | WTF |
| 06:58.38 | pastamancer | yeah, I'll bet you want to call ToggleModuleActive outside of OnInitialize |
| 06:58.43 | sylvanaar | this doesnt make any sense to me at all |
| 06:59.39 | sylvanaar | why? |
| 07:01.15 | sylvanaar | this looks like a bug |
| 07:01.16 | pastamancer | or actually |
| 07:01.33 | pastamancer | try passing just self instead of self.name to ToggleModuleActive |
| 07:02.18 | sylvanaar | will that change the context it thinks im on? |
| 07:02.40 | pastamancer | it means ToggleModuleActive won't be trying to call GetModule |
| 07:03.27 | pastamancer | I really don't think AceModuleCore was designed to allow ToggleModuleActive from inside OnInitialize |
| 07:03.44 | sylvanaar | i guess it wasnt |
| 07:03.53 | sylvanaar | which makes it a bug |
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| 07:05.41 | sylvanaar | you know what |
| 07:05.49 | ckknight | chicken butt |
| 07:05.54 | sylvanaar | i could call it just fine from OnEnable |
| 07:06.00 | sylvanaar | er |
| 07:06.06 | sylvanaar | OnInitilialize |
| 07:06.42 | sylvanaar | after trying to use ace-oo it breaks |
| 07:06.49 | pastamancer | well, as far as I can tell, ToggleModuleActive("name") should bitch about not being able to find the module if called from OnInitialize |
| 07:07.11 | sylvanaar | works great |
| 07:07.22 | sylvanaar | been using it for weeks |
| 07:08.01 | sylvanaar | the problem is the prototype methods i declared |
| 07:08.32 | sylvanaar | the ones in the modules dont overwrite them |
| 07:09.12 | pastamancer | it's working great in Grid |
| 07:11.18 | ckknight | anyone know vhaarr's email address? |
| 07:11.55 | grennon | http://ace.pastey.net/4433 |
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| 07:12.05 | grennon | thats the hook im having trouble with |
| 07:12.35 | ckknight | grennon: it's not a script |
| 07:12.39 | ckknight | use :Hook, not :HookScript |
| 07:12.47 | ckknight | :HookScript is for stuff like OnEnter, OnUpdate, etc. |
| 07:14.28 | sylvanaar | pastamancer: did you help write ace-oo? |
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| 07:15.05 | pastamancer | no, but I have gone crosseyed more than a few times tracking down problems I ran into when writing Grid |
| 07:15.37 | sylvanaar | can you call functions defined in modules from the prototype? |
| 07:15.50 | pastamancer | absolutely |
| 07:16.12 | pastamancer | I do it all the time in Grid |
| 07:16.31 | ckknight | sylvanaar: note: it's actually part of AceModuleCore, not necessarily AceOO |
| 07:17.00 | sylvanaar | can you give your module OnInit, OnEnable, OnDisable in your prototype and then not define them in the modules? |
| 07:17.32 | sylvanaar | the bug is fairly obvious |
| 07:17.35 | pastamancer | yup |
| 07:18.07 | pastamancer | the bug is that you should be getting an error when you try to do what you're doing :p |
| 07:18.23 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 07:18.43 | sylvanaar | even if i comment out ToggleModuleActive |
| 07:18.52 | sylvanaar | makes no difference |
| 07:19.11 | pastamancer | you're doing things a bit inside-out |
| 07:19.19 | sylvanaar | how so |
| 07:19.22 | pastamancer | I'd take RegisterModule out of OnInitialize |
| 07:19.37 | pastamancer | gimme a sec to copy/paste bits of grid |
| 07:20.21 | sylvanaar | its obvious to me that the module context gets completely lost |
| 07:22.16 | pastamancer | hmm, the AceModuleCore code in grid doesn't copy/past well, but basically, I'm waiting until Grid's OnEnable to call ToggleModuleActive on all modules at once |
| 07:23.19 | sylvanaar | Register module sets up the AceDB |
| 07:23.49 | pastamancer | actually your registermodule is probably fine |
| 07:24.25 | pastamancer | my register function just sets up the menus |
| 07:24.34 | sylvanaar | everything worked fine until i moved the code into the prototype |
| 07:24.37 | grennon | http://ace.pastey.net/4435 |
| 07:24.59 | pastamancer | but I have self.db = self.core:AcquireDBNamespace(self.name) in InInitialize |
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| 07:25.31 | sylvanaar | Heres the problam |
| 07:26.00 | sylvanaar | The code that calls OnInitialize does not account for the fact that it may be in the prototype |
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| 07:26.12 | grennon | using that method i get "could not find the method or script you are trying to hook" |
| 07:26.31 | alcaras | hrm, what happened to oCD and oCB; i don't see them on files anymore :-/ |
| 07:27.06 | pastamancer | alcaras: http://fuxsake.net/ |
| 07:27.21 | ckknight | grennon: odd, then it doesn't exist right there. |
| 07:27.23 | sylvanaar | which basically means i have to put OnInitialize in every module and call the prototype from there |
| 07:27.41 | grennon | ahhh |
| 07:27.45 | pastamancer | is the code you're working on in svn right now? |
| 07:28.13 | grennon | ckknight: i never thought that it might not exist until it was set |
| 07:28.29 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 07:28.52 | pastamancer | ok, I'll grab your branch |
| 07:29.22 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23177 10Prat/Prat/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Prat: OO in Lua is a lie |
| 07:29.30 | sylvanaar | there it is |
| 07:29.41 | grennon | so if it exists i want to hook it, and if not i want to create it |
| 07:33.04 | alcaras | zaos: did you get my pm replies? |
| 07:33.10 | alcaras | or is freenode just not sending them :-/ |
| 07:33.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Appears not to be. You ident'd and your nick registered? |
| 07:33.52 | andremar | alcaras: if your not registerd and logged in, you cannot send private messages |
| 07:34.03 | andremar | there should be a message in your statuswindow though, telling you that |
| 07:34.11 | alcaras | blah, yeah |
| 07:34.16 | alcaras | thought the identify was in my perform |
| 07:34.18 | alcaras | somehow got out tho |
| 07:34.31 | ckknight | sylvanaar: you didn't know OO was a lie? |
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| 07:35.22 | sylvanaar | its not working properly ckk |
| 07:35.37 | ckknight | it is, you just don't know how to use it |
| 07:35.38 | ckknight | basically. |
| 07:35.54 | sylvanaar | well, then tell me what i did wrong |
| 07:35.55 | Achi | hi there people, i have a slight problem, i found Ace2 on some random site, said "latest version", downloaded it and wow tells me "Incompadible". And i can't find Ace2 to download at wowace.com. some help would be appriciated :) |
| 07:36.07 | ckknight | not sure, haven't looked closely enough |
| 07:36.20 | sylvanaar | can you please? |
| 07:36.32 | ckknight | Note: libraries now have a License: section in their header. |
| 07:37.17 | ZealotOnAStick | anyone remember the url for haste's google code site? |
| 07:37.27 | ckknight | and addons can put X-License: in their TOC |
| 07:38.40 | andremar | ZealotOnAStick: http://code.google.com/p/wow-haste/source |
| 07:38.45 | ZealotOnAStick | there a sufficient forum notice of such and/or wikification (or will be?) |
| 07:38.59 | andremar | top hit searching for "haste google code" |
| 07:40.43 | alcaras | anyway to hide these icons? http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/2826/hideiconcn7.jpg |
| 07:40.55 | alcaras | i'd like to clean up my fubar and make all those icons like a drop down menu from one super icon |
| 07:41.17 | ckknight | alcaras: attach to minimap? |
| 07:41.30 | ckknight | I've thought of the super-icon idea |
| 07:41.36 | ckknight | I'd do it, but I'm busy. |
| 07:41.38 | alcaras | i hate cluttering the minimap tho :( |
| 07:41.52 | ckknight | yea, it's like getting herpes |
| 07:41.54 | pastamancer | sylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/4436 |
| 07:41.55 | alcaras | some icons have 'hide plugin' |
| 07:41.58 | ZealotOnAStick | FuDock |
| 07:41.59 | alcaras | but not all |
| 07:42.26 | alcaras | worse are the addons that don't even have an icon |
| 07:43.10 | pastamancer | I'm using DeuceCommander to consolidate most of my addon config fubar buttons |
| 07:43.18 | alcaras | e.g. grindstatus or bigopt... they take up tons of room with their name :-/ |
| 07:43.39 | alcaras | any screenshots of either FuDock or DeuceCommander? |
| 07:44.47 | alcaras | also, did MCP disappear from the wowace svn? |
| 07:44.53 | alcaras | i think it was in it once |
| 07:45.33 | ckknight | alcaras: branches. |
| 07:45.37 | ZealotOnAStick | FuDock was just a name suggestion for some sort of . . . fubar icon dock |
| 07:45.42 | alcaras | hehe zoas |
| 07:45.46 | alcaras | trying deuce now |
| 07:45.59 | alcaras | ckknight: branches? any reason it got moved out of files? |
| 07:46.02 | Meiun|| | FuBar_ModMenuTuFu is what i use :o |
| 07:46.09 | ckknight | alcaras: *shrug* |
| 07:46.51 | alcaras | mm, just checking what isn't getting updated with wau |
| 07:46.52 | alcaras | that's all :p |
| 07:47.05 | alcaras | trying to have everything auto-updatable or easily updatable before TBC launch |
| 07:47.49 | sylvanaar | pastamancer: ? |
| 07:47.59 | pastamancer | sylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/4436 |
| 07:48.12 | pastamancer | does that look like what you'd expect? |
| 07:48.19 | sylvanaar | no |
| 07:50.26 | alcaras | thanks for the deucecomamnder link: it let me get rid of a ton of 'config' icons |
| 07:50.36 | sylvanaar | i mean - thats what it looks like now |
| 07:50.48 | pastamancer | ok |
| 07:50.51 | sylvanaar | theres nothing there that says the module code has run |
| 07:51.49 | sylvanaar | you get that if you set Force Module debuging on |
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| 07:52.27 | pastamancer | which modules should I enable? |
| 07:52.41 | sylvanaar | any |
| 07:53.00 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r23178 10Click2Cast/ (4 files): Click2Cast - Update locals koKR (Spell rank) |
| 07:54.07 | sylvanaar | i was using PlayerNames |
| 07:54.24 | sylvanaar | which isnt working |
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| 08:00.41 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23179 10Prat/Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/PlayerNames.lua): Prat: added more debug, and merged back moving to disabled menu |
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| 08:01.31 | sylvanaar | im at wits end |
| 08:01.38 | sylvanaar | this makes no sense |
| 08:01.57 | sbu | morning |
| 08:02.21 | pastamancer | sylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/4437 |
| 08:02.44 | pastamancer | I turned off force module debugging and turned debugging on for just PlayerNames |
| 08:02.59 | pastamancer | oh, and tweaked the Debug message a bit :) |
| 08:03.21 | sylvanaar | yeah, but what did you do to get the call |
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| 08:03.30 | pastamancer | check the title of the pastey |
| 08:04.16 | pastamancer | I can send you a full diff if you want |
| 08:04.25 | sbu | mhhh aguf clicking in group view seems to be broken :/ |
| 08:04.44 | sylvanaar | goddam curney |
| 08:05.05 | pastamancer | lemme know if that fixes it on your end |
| 08:05.12 | sylvanaar | nice catch |
| 08:05.17 | pastamancer | sometimes you just need another set of eyes |
| 08:07.11 | sylvanaar | thanks pasta, that not only fixed that one module, but now other ones work too...wierd |
| 08:07.22 | pastamancer | 's magical |
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| 08:08.36 | pastamancer | I'm off to sleep. I guess there were metatables getting whacked somewhere along the line |
| 08:09.21 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23180 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: .AceAddon-2.0 - now shows license of addons in the about if it's available through self.license or X-License |
| 08:09.25 | pastamancer | you'd better commit a fix, I want my prat working tomorrow :p |
| 08:09.51 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23181 10Prat/Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: Prat_Playernames is not Prat_Buttons, (thanks Pastamancer for the fix) |
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| 08:12.47 | alcaras | what was that auto-downloader someone posted on wowace forums? |
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| 08:13.41 | alcaras | and i don't mean wowaceupdater |
| 08:14.15 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23182 10AbacusLib/ (Abacus-2.0/Abacus-2.0.lua AbacusLib.toc): .Abacus-2.0 - changing license to LGPL v2.1. If you have code within this library that you do not want to be under this license, contact me to work out a solution. |
| 08:14.22 | pastamancer | alcaras: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3341.0 |
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| 08:15.46 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23183 10CrayonLib/ (Crayon-2.0/Crayon-2.0.lua CrayonLib.toc): .Crayon-2.0 - changing license to LGPL v2.1. If you have code within this library that you do not want to be under this license, contact me to work out a solution. |
| 08:15.55 | alcaras | pastamancer: thanks! |
| 08:16.47 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23184 10Deformat/ (Deformat-2.0/Deformat-2.0.lua Deformat.toc): .Deformat-2.0 - changing license to LGPL v2.1. If you have code within this library that you do not want to be under this license, contact me to work out a solution. |
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| 08:20.54 | naenee | Good morning |
| 08:21.06 | ckknight | morning, naenee |
| 08:21.44 | Kaelten | night guys |
| 08:22.35 | naenee | sweet dreams :) |
| 08:24.31 | sylvanaar | are there any nuances with setting colors and hyperlinks? |
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| 08:25.06 | sylvanaar | |h|cfffff468Dalym|r|h|cffd2d2d2]|r |
| 08:25.20 | ckknight | no, sylvanaar |
| 08:25.41 | Adirelle | hello there, does someone have a suggestion to debug Glory ? I'm working on French localization |
| 08:25.43 | sylvanaar | at the end ]|r the ']' isnt colored |
| 08:25.53 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23185 10Babble-2.2/ (7 files in 7 dirs): |
| 08:25.53 | CIA-17 | .Babble-2.2 - changing license to MIT. If you have code within this library that you do not want to be under this license, contact me to work out a solution. |
| 08:25.53 | CIA-17 | Note: The reason this is not LGPL like other libraries is because people |
| 08:25.53 | CIA-17 | occasionally take out specific spells/races/etc. and they should have the |
| 08:25.53 | CIA-17 | ability to do so without hassle, seeing as this is a data-centric and not a |
| 08:25.57 | CIA-17 | code-centric library, this will likely not be a problem. |
| 08:26.34 | Adirelle | (btw, who should I sent diff to ?) |
| 08:26.52 | grennon | oh man, im proud of myself |
| 08:26.55 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23186 10DewdropLib/ (Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua DewdropLib.toc): .Dewdrop-2.0 - changing license to LGPL v2.1. If you have code within this library that you do not want to be under this license, contact me to work out a solution. |
| 08:27.58 | ckknight | Adirelle: I maintain Glory. |
| 08:27.58 | ckknight | finally, a frenchman! |
| 08:28.20 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23187 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/ (FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua FuBarPlugin-2.0.toc): .FuBarPlugin-2.0 - changing license to LGPL v2.1. If you have code within this library that you do not want to be under this license, contact me to work out a solution. |
| 08:28.25 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23188 10Prat/Prat/ (frames/pratcc.xml modules/PlayerNames.lua): Prat: More incomplete name changes |
| 08:28.36 | grennon | http://ace.pastey.net/4438 vs http://ace.pastey.net/4439 |
| 08:29.47 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23189 10GloryLib/ (Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua GloryLib.toc): .Glory-2.0 - changing license to LGPL v2.1. If you have code within this library that you do not want to be under this license, contact me to work out a solution. |
| 08:30.19 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23190 10JostleLib/Jostle-2.0/Jostle-2.0.lua: .Jostle-2.0 - changing license to LGPL v2.1. If you have code within this library that you do not want to be under this license, contact me to work out a solution. |
| 08:30.21 | grennon | such a small mod too |
| 08:30.32 | grennon | its a shame to split it off |
| 08:31.04 | Adirelle | ckknight, I'm still testing it (that's quite boring... have to wait for age...) |
| 08:31.10 | ckknight | ah. |
| 08:31.36 | ckknight | grennon: I like the first code. |
| 08:31.50 | grennon | the first one is the one i just got done doing |
| 08:32.07 | ckknight | oh, btw, regarding your string.find |
| 08:32.19 | grennon | its was just slapped into the CT inbox mod, which got ported into GMail1 without thought |
| 08:32.26 | ckknight | string.find(subject, "%[%d+g %d+s %d+c%]") => subject:find("^%[%d+g %d+s %d+c%]$") |
| 08:32.28 | grennon | but it does nothing with an inbox at all :-) |
| 08:32.34 | Adirelle | and well, there are quite annoying things, like "the" translating to le, la or l' (and sometimes an "l" with a 3-byte character following) |
| 08:32.49 | ckknight | Adirelle: yep. blame your forefathers |
| 08:33.11 | Adirelle | ckknight, lol, I wish LUA could handle (a|b|c) patterns... |
| 08:33.11 | ckknight | and grennon, SendMailSubjectEditBox:SetText(format("["..abacus:FormatMoneyFull(copper).."]")) is bad karma |
| 08:33.22 | ckknight | you don't need format in there |
| 08:33.26 | sbu | huh |
| 08:33.28 | ckknight | Adirelle: me too |
| 08:33.29 | sbu | wtf, my server is up |
| 08:33.32 | ckknight | yay |
| 08:33.49 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r23191 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-koKR.lua: |
| 08:33.49 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames: |
| 08:33.50 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 08:34.28 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23192 10Prat/Prat/ (Bindings.xml Prat.lua): Prat: removed some debug code. code has stabilized |
| 08:34.35 | Adirelle | ckknight, to overcome this, I added a local preparseEventText() function that gets called before string.find in ProcessObjectiveEvent, but I still have to check if it doesn't have side effect |
| 08:34.55 | ckknight | I could audit the code when you're done |
| 08:35.00 | Adirelle | like messing up with node names |
| 08:35.00 | sylvanaar | im going to take a xanax now thanks again for your help pasta |
| 08:35.07 | oxman | It seems there is lots of mistake in BabbleSpell for french spell |
| 08:35.24 | oxman | ckknight, could you send my my svn password by email ? |
| 08:35.28 | oxman | I've lost it |
| 08:35.29 | oxman | =') |
| 08:35.37 | oxman | send my my / send me my |
| 08:35.38 | ckknight | oxman: sorry, Kaelten controls that |
| 08:35.49 | oxman | KaeltenAway are you here ? ^^ |
| 08:35.50 | Adirelle | ckknight: np, i'm not going to commit in directly, i'll send you a diff |
| 08:36.01 | ckknight | oxman: just left |
| 08:36.14 | oxman | In fact, for all spells with something like "blabla : blabla", it must be "blabla\194\160: blabla" |
| 08:36.46 | ckknight | oxman: hrm, it should be like that now... |
| 08:36.46 | Adirelle | maybe could I make a branch if someone would like to test it |
| 08:36.54 | oxman | Really ? |
| 08:36.57 | oxman | I'll go look :) |
| 08:37.18 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23193 10TabletLib/ (Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua TabletLib.toc): .Tablet-2.0 - changing license to LGPL v2.1. If you have code within this library that you do not want to be under this license, contact me to work out a solution. |
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| 08:37.47 | Adirelle | oxman: I changed those that I was sure of, for example, I didn't change teleport and polymorph spells as I don't have access to a mage... |
| 08:38.06 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23194 10TouristLib/ (Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua TouristLib.toc): .Tourist-2.0 - changing license to LGPL v2.1. If you have code within this library that you do not want to be under this license, contact me to work out a solution. |
| 08:38.19 | oxman | indeed ckknight |
| 08:38.29 | oxman | merci Adirelle ;) |
| 08:38.30 | ckknight | that's it for me until hyperChipmunk and vhaarr can be contacted |
| 08:38.47 | Bver_ | how is the cartographer hotspot minimap button supposed to function?? |
| 08:39.12 | Bver_ | cus when i hover over it, i see the mini map ping in the middle of my screen, and no map |
| 08:39.26 | oxman | and Adirelle about "Improved Power Word: Fortitude", you haven't put a \194\160 its a mistake ? |
| 08:39.59 | sbu | hmmm ckknight |
| 08:40.05 | sbu | something is wrong with cartographer instance maps |
| 08:40.14 | ckknight | I upgraded them |
| 08:40.19 | sbu | notes are not in the right place |
| 08:40.21 | ckknight | still sketchy |
| 08:40.25 | ckknight | known bug |
| 08:40.27 | sbu | hm ok |
| 08:40.28 | sbu | :) |
| 08:40.31 | Bver_ | when i click on it, and then move my mouse away, the map is shown. When i hover my mouse back over the hotspot button it hides the map. Seems backwards to what is intended :P |
| 08:40.39 | sbu | and it takes some time to load instance maps? |
| 08:40.51 | sbu | i guess this is because they are generated from blizz data? |
| 08:41.10 | ckknight | sbu: cause it's loading 25+ minimap textures and piecing them together |
| 08:41.19 | FISKER_Q\ | hay guys |
| 08:41.37 | ckknight | hey FISKER_Q\ |
| 08:41.40 | sbu | ckknight: WTF!! :o |
| 08:41.43 | sbu | but cached, right? :p |
| 08:41.47 | FISKER_Q\ | :( |
| 08:41.59 | ckknight | sbu: what do you mean? |
| 08:42.02 | grennon | ckknight: thanks for the tip on the string.find |
| 08:42.06 | sbu | uhm - ok, guess not |
| 08:42.10 | ckknight | FISKER_Q\: it's hay guise |
| 08:42.17 | sbu | maps are put together every time you view them? |
| 08:42.24 | grennon | ckknight: that is a better way since it wont accidentally clobber something else |
| 08:42.32 | ckknight | the positions are already known, sbu |
| 08:42.33 | Adirelle | oxman : er... didn't checked it, I don't play a priest usually so I didn't knew where to look for it :s |
| 08:42.48 | sbu | heh, but this is nice, very nice |
| 08:42.54 | ckknight | sbu: the time is taking place on Blizzard's watch, not my own |
| 08:42.54 | sbu | ah |
| 08:43.08 | sbu | WTB instance-loot feature |
| 08:43.21 | sbu | but i guess i could also code it.. ;p |
| 08:43.42 | nevcairiel | gogo then :p |
| 08:43.51 | sbu | yep... ;p |
| 08:43.51 | ckknight | sbu: too late. |
| 08:43.58 | sbu | uhm? |
| 08:44.11 | ckknight | as a test, go to Onyxia's Lair and click on Onyxia's note. |
| 08:44.22 | sbu | i know that instance loot is there :) |
| 08:44.38 | sbu | but want to have something like "dont show green items" :) |
| 08:45.38 | oxman | Adirelle in talents I think |
| 08:45.44 | oxman | Adirelle I've a priest, I can check that ;) |
| 08:45.45 | sbu | or BOEs |
| 08:45.58 | ckknight | oh, that's PT-2.0 |
| 08:46.01 | Adirelle | oxman: I know, seen that on EU forums ;) |
| 08:46.02 | ckknight | hack that |
| 08:46.16 | oxman | Yes I'm a superstar =p |
| 08:46.26 | sbu | hm - hack backend stuff, not display settings in cartographer? |
| 08:47.20 | Adirelle | well, I often read UI&Macros forums :) |
| 08:47.21 | nevcairiel | which greens are in a boss loot table anyway? |
| 08:47.37 | nevcairiel | except maybe onyxias backpack :P |
| 08:47.50 | sbu | look at Gehennas |
| 08:48.15 | sbu | or Rattlegore in Scholomance (even white items, runecloth e.g.) |
| 08:48.33 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:48.43 | sbu | hm? :) |
| 08:48.45 | nevcairiel | he can basicly drop every random green or white |
| 08:48.50 | nevcairiel | if he wants to |
| 08:49.01 | sbu | hmyep |
| 08:49.01 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23195 10FuBar/FuBar.toc: |
| 08:49.01 | CIA-17 | FuBar - changing license to GPL v2 or later. If you have code within this addon that you do not want to be under this license, contact me to work out a solution. |
| 08:49.01 | CIA-17 | Note: this does not affect plugins of FuBar, as long as they do not use FuBar's |
| 08:49.01 | CIA-17 | API directly. Since they are handled through the intermediary FuBarPlugin-2.0 |
| 08:49.01 | CIA-17 | which is used modularly and dynamically within FuBar, there is no licensing |
| 08:49.02 | zac | boss as in level ?? in an a raid, or in general? |
| 08:49.03 | nevcairiel | i dont think that should be listed there |
| 08:49.05 | CIA-17 | issues and the license of your plugin is determined by FuBarPlugin-2.0 and not |
| 08:49.07 | CIA-17 | FuBar itself. |
| 08:49.15 | sbu | nevcairiel: ack |
| 08:49.27 | sbu | and blue boe from onyxia? |
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| 08:49.34 | sbu | its also world drop stuff |
| 08:49.41 | sbu | that could be everywhere... |
| 08:49.45 | nevcairiel | (which can be all llv 45-60 blue boe's :D) |
| 08:49.49 | sbu | yep |
| 08:49.50 | nevcairiel | *lvl |
| 08:50.05 | nevcairiel | some loot from gehennas disconnected me when i tried clicking it |
| 08:50.06 | nevcairiel | weird stuff |
| 08:50.07 | sbu | so it souldnt be there :p |
| 08:50.18 | nevcairiel | oh well, possibly because of the server restart |
| 08:50.47 | sbu | and hmm - sorted by rarity |
| 08:50.58 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23196 10Cartographer/Cartographer.toc: Cartographer - hanging license to GPL v2 or later. If you have code within this addon that you do not want to be under this license, contact me to work out a solution. |
| 08:51.12 | Adirelle | (plz don't flame me ;)) : anyone using gaim as an IRC client here ? |
| 08:51.24 | ckknight | nah, I used to, though |
| 08:51.26 | sbu | hard to resist :p |
| 08:51.32 | ckknight | then I used XChat instead |
| 08:51.34 | ckknight | worked a lot better |
| 08:51.39 | ckknight | now I'm on Mac and use Colloquy |
| 08:51.44 | nevcairiel | sorted by drop chance is better imho |
| 08:51.58 | sbu | nevcairiel: hm |
| 08:52.10 | zac | ckknight: you using adium for IM? |
| 08:52.14 | ckknight | yep |
| 08:52.21 | ckknight | which is just Jabber, for my work. |
| 08:52.44 | sbu | nevcairiel: ok, with all that crap removed, maybe you're right ;o |
| 08:53.17 | Gagorian | Is there any way to test if localized stuff actually works without having someone else do it? :l |
| 08:53.27 | Adirelle | well, I'm on Windows in fact and I shouldn't install commercial software (and i'm also using it for MSN)... Well, I can't get it to make the window bar flash only when my nickname is said (it either never flashes or flashes on every new message), any idea ? |
| 08:53.31 | nevcairiel | just believe :) |
| 08:54.22 | sbu | nevcairiel: uhm ok - so how do we get that stuff out of that loot-table? :p |
| 08:54.36 | nevcairiel | delete the ID in the PT-Instance-Loot |
| 08:54.40 | sbu | eww... |
| 08:54.47 | Adirelle | Gagorian : I would suggest using test unit... with lots of "out of the game" strings |
| 08:55.01 | ckknight | Adirelle: not sure |
| 08:55.15 | ckknight | Gagorian: function GetLocale() return "deDE" end |
| 08:55.18 | ckknight | that's how I do it |
| 08:55.20 | sbu | yah, but drops got there somehow - i guess with some datamining addon? |
| 08:55.31 | ckknight | I stick it at the top of AceLibrary |
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| 08:55.45 | Adirelle | I thought checking if patterns were okay :) |
| 08:55.50 | ckknight | Gagorian: it's not perfect, though |
| 08:55.57 | nevcairiel | i would guess someone had a script to parse any existing data into PT |
| 08:57.00 | FtH|eagle | hi |
| 08:57.13 | nevcairiel | hi |
| 08:57.58 | Gagorian | ckknight: Mostly looking for testing if talents and spells are detected correctly through babblespell. |
| 08:58.06 | ckknight | ah |
| 08:58.13 | ckknight | um, no real good way. |
| 08:58.28 | nevcairiel | wait until someone complains |
| 08:58.29 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 08:58.32 | sbu | nevcairiel: PeriodicTable_DataMiner? but dont know if it supports PT2 |
| 08:58.44 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: That just happened ;) |
| 08:58.53 | Gagorian | But I don't see why it isn't working |
| 08:59.05 | nevcairiel | sbu: thats it |
| 08:59.12 | nevcairiel | sbu: parses allakhazam |
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| 08:59.42 | nevcairiel | there is a file with worlddrops tho |
| 08:59.48 | nevcairiel | guess no one added all stuff |
| 08:59.48 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 09:00.08 | sbu | if id and not worlddrops[id] and color and colors[color] and perc and tonumber(perc) >= 1.0 then <-- hmm |
| 09:00.09 | Adirelle | gagorian : same locale as you ? |
| 09:00.31 | Gagorian | Nah, he was French |
| 09:00.36 | Adirelle | ah |
| 09:00.48 | FtH|eagle | ckknight: Did you look at the problem with the minimap icons located outside of the minimap? Is there anything I can check to help? |
| 09:01.05 | ckknight | I haven't yet, been worrying about licensing. |
| 09:01.30 | nevcairiel | sbu: that only uses items which are not in the worlddrop list, which have a preconfigured color ( purple and blue ) and which drop chance is greater 1% |
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| 09:01.36 | nevcairiel | easy :P |
| 09:01.41 | ckknight | hey MoonWolf |
| 09:01.43 | FtH|eagle | ok |
| 09:01.47 | MoonWolf | ho |
| 09:02.02 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 09:02.17 | Adirelle | gagorian : what doesn't work ? (which in the repo ?) |
| 09:02.42 | Gagorian | DrDamage |
| 09:02.45 | sbu | nevcairiel: sure, i can read that :p |
| 09:02.50 | Gagorian | It supposedly doesn't detect talents |
| 09:02.55 | nevcairiel | so why hmm ? :P |
| 09:02.55 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 09:03.17 | sbu | well, purple and blue - so why do we have green+white items? :p |
| 09:03.26 | nevcairiel | maybe someone added them |
| 09:03.27 | sbu | and i'm not sure about that 1% drop-chance |
| 09:03.28 | ckknight | can someone fix Babble-Spell-2.2 frFR ["Gift of Life"] = "Don de vie"? |
| 09:03.33 | ckknight | if it hasn't been already |
| 09:03.47 | FtH|eagle | it is fixed |
| 09:04.27 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 09:04.43 | nevcairiel | shouldnt you include the license header in the libraries as well, not only saying its MIT license ? :D |
| 09:05.07 | ckknight | too complicated, I say, people can look it up. |
| 09:05.29 | sbu | gnl, ok, bbl, getting some more sleep ;) |
| 09:05.37 | Health | kk |
| 09:05.38 | ckknight | doing too much is merely masturbation, it serves no real purpose |
| 09:05.53 | Industrial | include a file named LICENSE... |
| 09:05.54 | nevcairiel | its not too much, its basically required for the license to apply |
| 09:06.11 | Industrial | also |
| 09:06.16 | Industrial | the mark as read button is BROKEN |
| 09:06.35 | ckknight | Industrial: that's Kaelten's issue afaik, and he knows of it, afaik |
| 09:06.37 | nevcairiel | true, i always get some session not verified thing |
| 09:06.38 | Industrial | and thats kinda anoying cause now i dont know what anoying topics i have already skipped or not :P |
| 09:07.12 | Adirelle | gagorian : I suppose something in DrDamage:DmgUpdateTalents is wrong ? |
| 09:07.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Should be fixed, ckknight, I committed it what is now yesterday afternoon |
| 09:08.24 | ZealotOnAStick | (the babble-spell french deal) |
| 09:08.32 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: okay |
| 09:08.35 | nevcairiel | stupid french |
| 09:08.45 | Adirelle | nevcairiel : don't say that xD |
| 09:09.05 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 09:09.38 | Gagorian | Adirelle: Well, not necessarily |
| 09:09.43 | Adirelle | Gagorian : what about trying "talentName = BS:HasReverseTranslation(talentName) and BS:GetReverseTranslation(talentName) or talentName" ? |
| 09:09.59 | Adirelle | I see all you're talentInfo are in english |
| 09:10.06 | Gagorian | yeah |
| 09:10.34 | Gagorian | It might not apply the talents even if it detects them |
| 09:11.16 | Adirelle | (or just put [BS["xxx"]] all around in your SpellData.lua) |
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| 09:12.35 | Gagorian | I wanted to avoid that since it looks ugly ;) |
| 09:12.55 | Gagorian | What does ReverseTranslation get if it's in the enUS locale? |
| 09:13.32 | Adirelle | I would avoid too, I prefer using BS in code than in data, even if it is CPU-cheaper in data |
| 09:13.36 | CIA-17 | 03grennon * r23197 10/branches/Postal/Postal-1.0.lua: Postal: added DisableAttachments function |
| 09:13.57 | Adirelle | the same string I suppose |
| 09:13.57 | Gagorian | I put in the spells in data cause it's easier to lookup it |
| 09:14.18 | Adirelle | BabbleSpell is based on AceLocale |
| 09:14.21 | Gagorian | But if I put it everywhere my data looks messed |
| 09:14.36 | grennon | im definitely renaming the lib PostalLib and calling the mod Postal |
| 09:14.37 | CIA-17 | 03nevcairiel * r23198 10Bartender3/Bartender3.toc: Bartender3: some .toc cleaning |
| 09:14.41 | grennon | tomorrow... |
| 09:14.45 | grennon | or something |
| 09:14.53 | Adirelle | Gagorian : L["enUS"] = "enUS" |
| 09:15.17 | Adirelle | Gagorian : so i would suppose that L:GetReverseTranslation("enUS") == "enUS" |
| 09:15.30 | Gagorian | BS:HasReverseTranslation( talentName ) is false for enUS |
| 09:15.41 | CIA-17 | 03grennon * r23199 10/branches/GMail/ (6 files in 4 dirs): GMail: initial commit of GMail_Wire, fix for GMail_Express |
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| 09:16.01 | Health | nevcairiel: any plands on adding range specific bars? |
| 09:16.08 | Adirelle | so that's not a problem, the "or part" of the statement will handle this |
| 09:16.08 | grennon | Tekkub: you round? |
| 09:16.09 | Health | paging |
| 09:16.15 | pastamancer | Industrial: I don't know why I'm still awake, but post about forum bugs here: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3609.0 |
| 09:16.17 | Gagorian | Adirelle aye |
| 09:16.20 | Gagorian | I'll try that |
| 09:16.24 | Tekkub | meh? |
| 09:16.48 | grennon | yeah man, i finally figured out why you hook in the order you do for expressmail |
| 09:16.54 | Adirelle | if it doesn't explode on enUS it should work on other locales :D |
| 09:17.00 | grennon | including the conditional for inboxframe_onclick |
| 09:17.11 | Tekkub | :P |
| 09:17.19 | Tekkub | delete someone's AH shit? |
| 09:17.21 | grennon | theres fixes in your 10 line nonace version the old one on svn doesnt have :-) |
| 09:17.34 | nevcairiel | Health: wont work at all |
| 09:17.51 | Gagorian | Adirelle: didn't explode yet at least, that cleaned up some code nicely.. |
| 09:17.51 | grennon | can i fix the svn version? |
| 09:18.00 | Health | Can't use it in the same way as some other hunter addons work for switching bars? |
| 09:18.06 | Tekkub | remove it from the SVN |
| 09:18.15 | Health | Range bars as in only, melee/ranged |
| 09:18.17 | Tekkub | it doesn't use Ace, it don't belong on this SVN |
| 09:18.27 | nevcairiel | Health: i havent seen any addon like that working with 2.0 in combat. |
| 09:18.34 | Health | I see |
| 09:18.38 | Health | Stupid me :) |
| 09:18.44 | grennon | meh, you sure you dont want me to fix it for the auto-updater people? :-) |
| 09:19.31 | Tekkub | yes I'm sure |
| 09:19.42 | Health | nevcairiel: The old friendly/hostile bar switch doesn't work either? |
| 09:19.52 | grennon | you know the humanoids, it wont show up in their updater and they might not even notice its gone, and they keep wondering why the open they open the next mail after the one they shift-click |
| 09:20.16 | nevcairiel | Health: probably not, but i think thats possible in some way |
| 09:20.23 | ckknight | actually non-ace addons aren't turned away from the SVN |
| 09:20.37 | ckknight | that's why, for example, the decursive author was given an account |
| 09:20.47 | nevcairiel | did he ever use it? |
| 09:20.55 | ckknight | nevcairiel: he got it yesterday. |
| 09:20.57 | ckknight | so probably not yet |
| 09:21.01 | ckknight | and why Clearfont (v1) is on the SVN |
| 09:21.03 | nevcairiel | heh. |
| 09:21.10 | ckknight | and why !BugGrabber is, and TaintChecker |
| 09:21.17 | ckknight | they're not Ace mods, but they're on the SVN |
| 09:21.25 | ckknight | I'd say we shouldn't be so insular |
| 09:21.28 | ZealotOnAStick | quu, or another author? |
| 09:21.30 | nevcairiel | BugGrabber basicly is part of an Ace mod imho, and it couldnt be ace :D |
| 09:21.38 | FtH|eagle | won't decursive use ace anyway? Because a version I downloaded contained some libs but weren't used so far. |
| 09:21.53 | nevcairiel | (whats the point of decursive?) |
| 09:21.59 | ckknight | nevcairiel: no idea. |
| 09:22.12 | ZealotOnAStick | The same as Detox now? A big glowing sign for which mole to whack? |
| 09:22.17 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 09:22.31 | Adirelle | maybe the current author is willing to converting to ace ? |
| 09:22.48 | nevcairiel | still. there is no real point in using it anymore |
| 09:22.53 | Adirelle | yep |
| 09:22.54 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23200 10/trunk/ (15 files in 13 dirs): .ckknight's assorted libraries/addons - added LICENSE.txt files to folders that state the license used. |
| 09:22.58 | grennon | theres one point |
| 09:23.00 | pastamancer | decursive could still tie into Grid like SMH does ;) |
| 09:23.03 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight, the decursive author - quu, or someone else? |
| 09:23.17 | nevcairiel | SMH? |
| 09:23.19 | Adirelle | SMH ? |
| 09:23.24 | ZealotOnAStick | simply magical healer |
| 09:23.28 | ZealotOnAStick | or something close to that. |
| 09:23.32 | nevcairiel | never ever heard |
| 09:23.32 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 09:23.41 | grennon | when your levelling up your paladin, you dont notice you have something you can cleanse, as soon as your out of combat you hit it |
| 09:23.55 | pastamancer | SMH: http://www.mithrandir.com/WorldOfWarcraft/WoW.html |
| 09:24.22 | nevcairiel | ive never believed in any healing addons |
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| 09:24.26 | pastamancer | it used to be a one-button healer mod, but now it just uses it's spell/rank selection to throw a status at Grid |
| 09:24.42 | grennon | before i got decursive on my paladin alt, i hearly noticed when i had thing i could cure |
| 09:24.54 | grennon | heardly* |
| 09:25.00 | grennon | bleh, its late |
| 09:25.11 | nevcairiel | i just woke up |
| 09:25.24 | pastamancer | that's for sure. I think I might actually get to sleep this time. |
| 09:25.38 | pastamancer | goodnight |
| 09:25.45 | nevcairiel | night |
| 09:25.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Decursive was handy for my druid . . . |
| 09:26.00 | nevcairiel | thats the point, it _was_ |
| 09:26.01 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 09:26.18 | ZealotOnAStick | but since 2.0, the one semi-serious raid I've done on him, I still ended up top on the curing meters, after spending the first 2 bosses in ZG configuring grid and clique. |
| 09:26.31 | nevcairiel | ive been raiding before decursive, with decursive, and i still will without decursive |
| 09:26.33 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 09:26.36 | grennon | thats what our people use for Noth now |
| 09:27.06 | grennon | i had most of our paladins switch to clique+perfectraid before the patch hit |
| 09:27.08 | nevcairiel | yeah we managed noth as well |
| 09:27.15 | grennon | then they had to relearn with Grid |
| 09:27.31 | grennon | but druids, mages do fine with grid on noth |
| 09:28.01 | Adirelle | I can't get our paladin to use Grid+Clique or even SmartBuff/SmartDebuff |
| 09:28.03 | ZealotOnAStick | I still miss Sprocket more than anything. |
| 09:28.15 | ZealotOnAStick | I don't like the new version of Smartbuff so much. |
| 09:28.15 | nevcairiel | Sprocket could be redone |
| 09:28.16 | Health | word! |
| 09:28.18 | nevcairiel | if anyone wants to |
| 09:28.31 | Adirelle | they just complain about decursive being down but won't hear to the solution I try to give them :( |
| 09:28.40 | grennon | fire em |
| 09:28.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Yes, I so I've been told, but I'm nowhere near the skill level required for it currently. |
| 09:29.02 | Gagorian | Adirelle: yeah, thanks for the help. Hope this solves it :) |
| 09:29.18 | Adirelle | grennon : if only I could |
| 09:29.22 | Adirelle | gagorian : np |
| 09:29.43 | grennon | i ran off two main tanks that wouldnt use KTM |
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| 09:29.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Adirelle - Maybe half my guild's healers I'd guess use Grid now. Some use sRaidFrames, and some are still using CTRA, despite it being wonky now. |
| 09:30.19 | nevcairiel | I'm happy with sRaidFrames |
| 09:30.29 | ZealotOnAStick | I was satisfied enough after our first post-patch Naxx raid when people gave in and tried it, and were like "Hey, this is actually pretty good." |
| 09:30.38 | nevcairiel | full raid view and no problems decursing |
| 09:30.46 | Adirelle | tho I play an hunter, I use grid and SmartBuff... |
| 09:31.05 | grennon | the thing i need most right now for raiding actually is a DMM/SW_Stats like mod that doesnt piss me off |
| 09:31.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Actually, one of the more useful things I found almost by accident, the grid side indicators module . . . |
| 09:31.28 | grennon | for stuff like viewing who isnt pulling their sure on patchwerk/loatheb/thaddius |
| 09:31.33 | Worf | yeah... i only miss pet support... in Grid, XRS and oRA .. :) |
| 09:31.43 | ZealotOnAStick | What's wrong with SWS 2.0.2? |
| 09:32.17 | Adirelle | yeah, too... I'm BM spec and some healer are willing to heal my Zephyr (boar), but they don't have nifty interface to do so |
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| 09:32.42 | grennon | the first time i tried SWS it was buggy, the interface looked nice but wasnt a good UI really, and at the time it didnt use the synch channel either a long time after the raid data channel was introduced |
| 09:32.55 | naenee | I miss the pet-things too. My priest often lets them die now :" |
| 09:33.04 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah, artack took a long time to get a 2.0 version released. |
| 09:33.08 | grennon | i keep up with its development but im not liking some of the bugs i see since im the guild's "mod guy" |
| 09:33.12 | naenee | If there's only one pet I can use focus though |
| 09:33.16 | Adirelle | btw, there securestatusheader doesn't handle pets... so now way to put pet in MT list with ora2 |
| 09:33.21 | Worf | i'm not BM spec, but i still do a god job at tanking |
| 09:33.34 | grennon | and dont want to answer questions relating to 10MB savedvariables files |
| 09:33.43 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:34.01 | Adirelle | a bm-specced pet can easily tank trash in MC/ZG/AQ20/BWL |
| 09:34.04 | nevcairiel | btw, i think i figured out which library is causing the combat lags |
| 09:34.05 | Worf | Adirelle: what does the securestatusheader do? |
| 09:34.06 | Gagorian | will api returns like UnitCreatureFamily be localized? |
| 09:34.08 | nevcairiel | i blame glorylib :P |
| 09:34.13 | grennon | its bad enough answering "how do i turn on thaddius arrows" all the time without having stuff like that to worry about |
| 09:34.17 | ZealotOnAStick | I haven't noticed any bugs on 2.0.2 (doesn't mean there aren't any) so long as everyone has the same version. (which is a chore in itself) |
| 09:34.44 | Adirelle | worf: manage list of player frames, like groups... or ora2's MT list |
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| 09:34.53 | grennon | or "how do i get the MT list" (twice per raid usually) |
| 09:35.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Heh. I zip up my BigWigs LoD setup + Thaddius Arrows + Loatheb Tactical into a "BigWigsPlus-rxxxxx" every couple of weeks for my guild to have a brainless install. |
| 09:35.34 | grennon | same here |
| 09:35.48 | Gngsk | doesn't every raiding guild? |
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| 09:35.51 | ZealotOnAStick | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:35.56 | grennon | unfortunately, most dont have the brains to find the pack or the drive to install it |
| 09:36.01 | Worf | i admit that i still didn't learn how this 2.0 api works... i did code quite a lot before, but now i'm mostly lost |
| 09:36.12 | ckknight | blah |
| 09:36.17 | Gngsk | we should create a wowace raiding guild! |
| 09:36.28 | grennon | no way man, im a total prick |
| 09:36.39 | grennon | i wouldnt raid with me |
| 09:36.39 | Gngsk | some might like that side of you |
| 09:36.39 | ZealotOnAStick | ok, you can be hunter CL then grennon |
| 09:36.41 | nevcairiel | ckknight: have you had any reports of GloryLib causing bad combat lags? |
| 09:36.47 | Adirelle | i personnaly have a private SVN with scripts to upload to UniAdmin and I distribute a pre-configured UniUploader package... but even so, guildmates don't care... |
| 09:36.48 | ckknight | no |
| 09:36.49 | ZealotOnAStick | ;) |
| 09:37.18 | ZealotOnAStick | I tried the UniAdmin thing with my previous guild, and learned it just wasn't worth it. |
| 09:37.40 | nevcairiel | ckknight: i installed HonorFu and GloryLib yesterday and they started, disabled it again and it went away. I dont think it was coincidence |
| 09:37.55 | ckknight | what happened? |
| 09:38.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Now I maintain our little private ftp addon mirror, post on some notable stuff on the forums, told them about and linked WAU, and go about things. |
| 09:38.18 | nevcairiel | every few seconds FPS drop to like 5 fps |
| 09:38.23 | nevcairiel | and backup |
| 09:38.31 | ZealotOnAStick | and as for a wowace raiding guild - we'd never progress, people would code too much. ;) |
| 09:39.14 | Worf | btw - what i noticed in yesterdays raid ( we didn't have much big raids since 2.0 ): can it be that under load some unitframes just don't get updated? my focustarget simply didn't show, but i know the focus unit had a target. |
| 09:40.03 | andremar | out of range? |
| 09:40.06 | Worf | nah |
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| 09:40.16 | grennon | im the jerk who has to say things like "someone volunteer to sit for the shadow embrace warlock before i voluntell somebody" |
| 09:40.29 | Adirelle | is there a wiki to reconfigure wowaceupdater for a "private" repository ??? |
| 09:40.39 | nevcairiel | just change the url |
| 09:41.08 | Adirelle | well, but what format the repository should have (and what about libs) ? |
| 09:41.53 | ZealotOnAStick | I think you'd need a similar /files script. Does WAU check versions by latest.txt? |
| 09:42.25 | ZealotOnAStick | s/Does/Doesn't/ |
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| 09:44.06 | Adirelle | gotta afk |
| 09:48.00 | naenee | Hm. Time to try out Grid when I get home |
| 09:57.07 | Gagorian | Are API returns like UnitCreatureFamily( unit ) localized? |
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| 09:57.39 | dafire | morning |
| 09:58.34 | Worf | Gagorian: i think you get 2 return values, one localized. but i might have mixed it up with another api call ... |
| 09:59.06 | Gagorian | Stuff like UnitClass will return localized and english |
| 09:59.13 | Gagorian | Not sure about that |
| 10:00.29 | nevcairiel | I guess i could try for you |
| 10:00.42 | nevcairiel | if i find my german install of wow |
| 10:00.47 | nevcairiel | wonder if it still works :D |
| 10:01.10 | Gagorian | Would appreciate it :) |
| 10:03.53 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r23201 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc SpellData.lua): |
| 10:03.53 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 10:03.53 | CIA-17 | -Fixed mage talent incinerate, fixed the incorrect damage per tick with |
| 10:03.54 | CIA-17 | channeled spells, re-wrote localization code (works now hopefully), fixed some |
| 10:03.54 | CIA-17 | erros in buffscanning, added option to remove crits/dots from actionbar values |
| 10:04.15 | nevcairiel | does anyone know if there is still a difference of a real localized install or a language pack with 2.0 ? |
| 10:04.19 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 10:04.21 | nevcairiel | with the new layout et all? |
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| 10:05.00 | [Ammo] | no bowing plix |
| 10:05.04 | [Ammo] | people might get ideas |
| 10:05.24 | Worf | ok... |
| 10:05.30 | Worf | s/bows to/slaps/ |
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| 10:05.38 | [Ammo] | perfect thanks |
| 10:05.48 | dafire | pastamancer? ;) |
| 10:05.48 | Worf | quick sed to fix things... :) |
| 10:05.53 | [Ammo] | uhhuh |
| 10:06.21 | dafire | nevcairiel: i noticed some strange things |
| 10:06.49 | nevcairiel | whats that? |
| 10:06.54 | dafire | nevcairiel: sometimes when i use the english elp i still see some german words here and there .. but i don't remember where it was |
| 10:06.58 | Mikma | hi all |
| 10:07.20 | nevcairiel | i was thinking about patching up my german version and using the ELP |
| 10:07.28 | nevcairiel | because i will get a german copy of BC |
| 10:07.31 | nevcairiel | so i can install it.. |
| 10:07.36 | dafire | i think it was something with the faction name rendered unter the npc name |
| 10:08.22 | dafire | i think it's a good idea if you get a german copy of bc .9 |
| 10:09.10 | Adirelle|work | Worf : you want to include pets in buff check ? |
| 10:09.24 | Worf | yeah... |
| 10:09.52 | Worf | this would reduce my whispers in raids by 30% approximately |
| 10:10.00 | Adirelle|work | too bad greater blessings doesn't work the right way on them |
| 10:10.33 | Adirelle|work | woot... in which guild are you ? I don't ever try to ask buff for my pet in mine... |
| 10:10.53 | Worf | oh - i'm one of the raidleaders... this does help a bit :) |
| 10:11.02 | Adirelle|work | lool |
| 10:11.45 | Worf | but i admit, yesterdays random AQ40 was interesting... most of the people weren |
| 10:11.47 | Adirelle|work | in fact i'm the hunter classmaster, but I have some trouble to convince pally, priest and druid ones to buff our pets... |
| 10:12.08 | Worf | 't used to pets in 40er instances... and defenitely not used to pets starting to tank there |
| 10:12.45 | nevcairiel | if you manage to keep your pets out while buffing, they will get the group buffs from priests and druids |
| 10:12.51 | nevcairiel | if you dont manage, your own fault :P |
| 10:13.16 | Adirelle|work | I know, but try to get a rebuff on a pet you just rezzed... |
| 10:13.42 | Adirelle|work | I usually allow myself one in combat pet rez |
| 10:13.56 | Worf | exactely... i wouldn't need to rezz pets if they would get heals... which leads us to other addons ... |
| 10:14.03 | nevcairiel | i dont buff anything in combat |
| 10:14.06 | nevcairiel | being a druid |
| 10:14.12 | nevcairiel | i would have to shift out of tree :P |
| 10:14.22 | Adirelle|work | yes... but even if I rez it after combat... can't get it buffed |
| 10:14.28 | Worf | nevcairiel: dito! my 2nd char is a tree too |
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| 10:14.59 | Adirelle|work | that's quite sad, as fully buffed my boars got 7k hp, 9k armor and about 150 in all res... |
| 10:15.34 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r23202 10oRA2/Leader/Item.lua: oRA2: fixed bug where disabled checks for items weren't displayed correctly in the leader overview. |
| 10:16.56 | Worf | i don't have a single point in Beastmaster, and still it propably tanks better than a non-def-tank |
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| 10:18.07 | Adirelle|work | that's possible, in 5-man instances, my boar tanks better than non-def warrior or pally |
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| 10:18.26 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r23203 10oRA2/Participant/Item.lua: oRA2: you can now turn off reagent checks seperatly from item checks. |
| 10:18.40 | nevcairiel | in 5 man i tank with my druid with restoration spec |
| 10:18.44 | nevcairiel | now c'mon |
| 10:18.45 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 10:18.48 | Worf | speaking of ... we had some troubles yesterday at fankris... can you do some tanking with pets there? i think no, because of the lack of any ae-aggro skills ... |
| 10:19.33 | Worf | nevcairiel: you can. but you won't stay a chance against Adirelle's Kirby i guess :) |
| 10:19.54 | [Ammo] | Worf: change strategy then |
| 10:19.59 | [Ammo] | pull fankriss into a corner |
| 10:20.01 | [Ammo] | and AOE everything |
| 10:20.06 | [Ammo] | including fankriss |
| 10:20.26 | nevcairiel | we have two tanks for fankriss and two for the adds |
| 10:20.30 | nevcairiel | always worked fine |
| 10:20.36 | nevcairiel | no aoe'ing until fankriss is down |
| 10:21.06 | Worf | [Ammo]: hmm... that wouldn't have worked yesterday... too little AOE... we tried our old pre 2.0 tactics ( first raid since then ), and the warriors couldn't hold the bugs |
| 10:21.09 | Adirelle|work | it seems aggro of poping adds is more random now |
| 10:21.15 | dafire | we have only one tank for the adds and ae at about 50% of fankriss .9 |
| 10:21.48 | dafire | before last patch i could get aggro from all by spamming battleshout .. thats not longer possible |
| 10:21.54 | Worf | dafire: yeah |
| 10:22.29 | Adirelle|work | on two tries, i pulled off aggro of mobs I didn't damaged... (kept my multishot in my pocket) |
| 10:22.58 | dafire | i have to run through the healers spamming demoralising shout.. and i have a pala with retribution and armor aura and thorns .9 |
| 10:23.26 | Worf | we don't yet have a pala in our guild |
| 10:23.32 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 10:23.33 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 10:23.35 | Adirelle|work | lol |
| 10:23.36 | dafire | maybe after next patch :P |
| 10:23.45 | Worf | propably |
| 10:24.01 | nevcairiel | no one will go AQ then anymore |
| 10:24.01 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 10:24.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Sure they will. People still have Atieshes to finish. |
| 10:24.26 | Worf | ah, i wouldn't be too sure of that. i really want to see the twins down! |
| 10:24.33 | Adirelle|work | er... in our guild we planned to do so one or twice a week, just to keep playing together |
| 10:24.59 | Adirelle|work | i meant "playing in 40-man raid together" |
| 10:25.16 | dafire | yesterday i was in an random raid with a thunderfury warrior that used only devastate to tank .. but never used sunder armor .9 |
| 10:25.26 | Worf | things have to get better once people get tired of PvP |
| 10:25.52 | Adirelle|work | in my guild, pve is getting interest again |
| 10:26.05 | Worf | dafire: lol... he propably didn't read the description... or he expected others to apply sunder armor :) |
| 10:26.15 | Adirelle|work | people have farmed their R14 weapon and their two R13 pieces... |
| 10:26.24 | dafire | we told him but he was a bit arrogant .. well ... :) |
| 10:27.02 | dafire | yes .. i got shoulders and the robes and the gm weapon with my warlock twink :) |
| 10:27.04 | Worf | question is: how do arrogant people get things like Thunderfury. or do people get arrogant after they get? |
| 10:27.16 | naenee | hm.. |
| 10:27.27 | naenee | our guild soon has six legendaries. |
| 10:27.50 | pahvir | :O |
| 10:27.57 | nevcairiel | we have .. hmm .. i think three tf and 4 sulfuras, all sulf on pallys which dont wear them at all anymore |
| 10:28.01 | naenee | We've had some arrogant people, but I think it's not too bad now |
| 10:28.09 | dafire | maybe it was because of us randoms.. but beeing wrong and arrogant is bad thing .9 |
| 10:28.43 | Worf | our guild did really raid a lot, but we only ever got the drops for one TF... we could have built 4 with our other mats tough. but had bad luck ... |
| 10:29.23 | dafire | yes.. we did mc very long and only one of the half droped the whole time |
| 10:29.24 | pahvir | my guild never had TF either :P |
| 10:29.52 | Worf | ... and then you see some noob guild and they have the drops for 3 ... |
| 10:30.14 | nevcairiel | we havent had the drops for tf from garr ever |
| 10:30.25 | nevcairiel | but we imported the three tfs from crossrealm :) |
| 10:30.27 | pahvir | Im my old server one guild gave it to pally :I |
| 10:30.41 | Worf | the pain! the agony! |
| 10:31.00 | nevcairiel | the first tf on my server went to a pally |
| 10:31.07 | nevcairiel | who stopped playing a month later -.- |
| 10:31.21 | naenee | :| |
| 10:31.32 | nevcairiel | and now even stupid rogues run around with it .P |
| 10:31.42 | naenee | Yup, it's very common |
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| 10:31.47 | ZealotOnAStick | We've got 2 warriors each with 1 binding, and they're both the opposite one. |
| 10:31.53 | nevcairiel | i dont get which raidleader would let that happen |
| 10:32.03 | nevcairiel | unless all warriors have it already |
| 10:32.04 | naenee | But then again, hardly anyone turns tail when they see those weapons anymore |
| 10:32.09 | dafire | does anyone knows it there is a roster-2.2 alpha to play with ? ;) |
| 10:32.24 | nevcairiel | i think pasta keept it hidden |
| 10:32.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Lots of different guilds, lots of loot systems. |
| 10:32.39 | dafire | damn .. it'S exactly what i need .9 |
| 10:32.48 | naenee | True. There are no set rules for how guilds should do things. |
| 10:32.51 | nevcairiel | you notice the difference in aggro tho |
| 10:33.09 | ZealotOnAStick | One of the guilds on our server when they were worth a damn was really so hardcore on DKP . . . if you could buy it, you could buy it, period, usable for you or not. |
| 10:33.19 | pahvir | :P |
| 10:33.39 | dafire | we had something like that in our dkp system .. but we change it for bc .9 |
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| 10:34.56 | nevcairiel | we have a priority system on the dkp, every item has priority 1 the classes which will use it in the raid, and priority 2 all others, if anyone from priority 1 bids, priority2 is ignored |
| 10:35.43 | CIA-17 | 03drzoot * r23204 10/branches/Axon/ (33 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:35.43 | CIA-17 | Axon: |
| 10:35.43 | CIA-17 | - Updated several textures, Changed the barsrc table format. |
| 10:35.45 | pahvir | so kinda like pve over pvp :P |
| 10:35.57 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 10:36.21 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r23205 10BigWigs/BWL/Chromaggus.lua: BigWigs (Chromaggus): Added unknown breath 1 and 2 bars to engage. |
| 10:36.36 | nevcairiel | mostly the pallys complained |
| 10:36.40 | nevcairiel | but what can you do |
| 10:36.43 | pahvir | In my guild people who wanted the item for pvp could only bid up to 500dkp |
| 10:37.08 | pahvir | after some priest did bid really lots for the grobbulus dagger :P |
| 10:37.45 | nevcairiel | heh. |
| 10:37.48 | Mikma | What's the default MainMenuBar now called with the securetemplate? |
| 10:37.58 | nevcairiel | still MainMenuBar |
| 10:38.03 | nevcairiel | or MainMenuBarArt |
| 10:38.05 | nevcairiel | one of those |
| 10:38.25 | Mikma | hmm, okie dokie! |
| 10:38.48 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle * r23206 10Baggins/ (Baggins-frFR.lua Baggins.toc): Baggins: added Baggins-frFR.lua and included a few translation (more to come later). |
| 10:40.00 | naenee | Hm. Where would addon-specific font/icon sizes for Fubar plugins be stored? The Baggins Fubar bit has a fixed minimum font and icon size, which are larger than the size of the rest of my plugins. |
| 10:46.11 | Caiman | hi all, just a quick question, is there any standalone addon that adds the damage dealt to anymob in it's portrait ? |
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| 10:51.00 | Worf | about the secure templates and all that stuff: targetting and stuff like that is blocked for non-blizz code and secure tepmlates are created for everything that blizz thinks that should still be possible, correct that far? |
| 10:51.13 | nevcairiel | basicly |
| 10:51.52 | Worf | so i have to look at the list of secure templates to see what is possible propably... |
| 10:52.12 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r23207 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (FuBar_QuestsFu.toc QuestsFuLocale-esES.lua): |
| 10:52.12 | CIA-17 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 10:52.13 | CIA-17 | - added spanish (esES) translation |
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| 10:55.37 | Worf | from what i can see they didn't consider adding menue entries to the unitpopup as something that should be possible :( |
| 10:56.04 | nevcairiel | you will prolly taint the popup code and make all break :D |
| 10:56.07 | nevcairiel | but you can try it tho |
| 10:56.24 | Worf | well - that part with tainting and breaking i allready successfully did |
| 10:57.14 | Worf | i just don't yet know much about what is new |
| 10:58.31 | Worf | hmm... propably this is the same reason why prat no longer has item tooltips on mouseover... |
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| 11:05.36 | naenee | Doesn't it require clicking on the link? |
| 11:05.56 | naenee | I mean, it does for me |
| 11:06.07 | naenee | Only icons show tooltips at mouseover |
| 11:07.35 | nevcairiel | you _could_ make a link show it on mouseoever |
| 11:07.40 | nevcairiel | well before the patch anyway |
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| 11:12.52 | haste | Mikma: lol, nice usage of mail :D |
| 11:13.42 | CIA-17 | 03kodewulf * r23208 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: |
| 11:13.42 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests |
| 11:13.42 | CIA-17 | * Will only save questgiver once quest details are viewed. |
| 11:19.18 | Dhraga | This addon provides full item tooltips from chatlinks on mouseover, would be nice to have a aced version of it though |
| 11:19.22 | Dhraga | http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/501/linktooltip/ |
| 11:20.48 | Herio | egads |
| 11:20.55 | Herio | hasn't been updated since December 31st 1969 |
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| 11:21.21 | Trancer | Dhraga: "Mendeleev adds a great deal of information to itemtooltips. (MoonWolf)" |
| 11:21.54 | Trancer | or is it like hoover over [Gigantic Butthole of the Bear] and it shows the item? |
| 11:22.02 | Trancer | s/hoover/hover/ |
| 11:22.07 | evl | bears anus is quite nice |
| 11:23.03 | Bver_ | can anyone tell me why, when there are alot of debuffs on a target, chronometer will lose track of dots? |
| 11:23.30 | Herio | has to do with it assuming every instance of x dot is yours |
| 11:23.57 | Trancer | Bver_: it works okay here so.. weird |
| 11:24.08 | Herio | so if someones immolate expires or rolls off or is consumed by a conflag it will assume it's yours |
| 11:24.33 | Bver_ | it parses your combat log i assume right? |
| 11:24.40 | Herio | there is an option to turn that off, which is more useful now that with 40 debuff slots, debuffs are unlikely to get bumped |
| 11:24.46 | Herio | yes, i would assume... |
| 11:25.04 | Adirelle|work | give a try to sorrenstimer :) |
| 11:25.14 | Bver_ | yeah, its kinda annoying in raids :P |
| 11:25.19 | Herio | where can i find this "sorrenstimer" |
| 11:25.25 | Herio | as i said it can be disabled... |
| 11:25.28 | Bver_ | lose numerous conflags becuase of it |
| 11:25.37 | Adirelle|work | in files |
| 11:25.42 | Adirelle|work | for the enUS version |
| 11:25.47 | Herio | i think it's something like /chron kill or some such |
| 11:25.49 | Herio | not sure |
| 11:25.52 | Dhraga | Trancer, yes its hoover over and shows the item |
| 11:25.59 | Herio | i'll try it out |
| 11:26.10 | CIA-17 | 03drzoot * r23209 10/branches/Axon/ (14 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:26.10 | CIA-17 | Axon: |
| 11:26.11 | CIA-17 | - Fixed Externals |
| 11:26.22 | Dhraga | Trancer : http://media5.curse-gaming.com/images/previews/6424/linktooltip-normal-tooltip-window-and-the-mouseover-tooltip.jpg |
| 11:26.41 | Adirelle|work | Herio: i'm still working on localization in a separate branch (self skills works tho, but BG timers and enemy skills don't) |
| 11:26.54 | Trancer | ah hmhmh.. not sure if there is any ace addon that can do that atm, shouldn't be very hard to craft tho |
| 11:26.58 | Bver_ | toggles whether bar fades after killing the target? |
| 11:27.11 | Herio | i'd prefer not to use one of those unified solution timers =( |
| 11:27.18 | Herio | one sec |
| 11:27.57 | Herio | i like to have all my dots in one place without having to sift through mortal strikes and other junk =/ |
| 11:27.59 | Dhraga | Trancer, yes it would be nice to have it under the ace flag |
| 11:28.08 | Adirelle|work | herio : you may just disable BGTimers (hmm... I think i'm going to see how modules works :D) |
| 11:28.37 | Herio | it's the fade option |
| 11:29.08 | Bver_ | ok |
| 11:29.09 | Bver_ | thanks |
| 11:29.15 | Bver_ | that makes sense :P |
| 11:29.18 | Herio | what does it do that chronometer doesnt? |
| 11:29.27 | Herio | what does it do better, etc? |
| 11:29.59 | Adirelle|work | ST ? well... i'll may have to try chronometer to tell the diff :p |
| 11:30.34 | Adirelle|work | let's search Chronometer on the wiki... |
| 11:31.13 | Herio | i'm perfectly content with chronometer =) |
| 11:31.26 | Dhraga | As a lock I use the DoTimer, its code is bigger than the normal dot/hot trackers, but its verry accurate : http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5302-DoTimer.html |
| 11:32.31 | Herio | what's it do to be so accurate o.O |
| 11:32.45 | Adirelle|work | Herio : diminishing returns, pet spells, customizable bar groups, customizable bar apparence (size, colors, alpha) either globally, by group or by skill |
| 11:33.09 | Dhraga | Herio, look in the code, I think it atually do quite a lot |
| 11:33.22 | Herio | i'll have to... |
| 11:33.33 | Adirelle|work | also handles some "non-skill" timers (like hunter pet arming or autoshot cooldown) |
| 11:33.47 | Adirelle|work | s/pet/trap/ |
| 11:34.03 | Herio | is it possible to disable a given spell,etc? |
| 11:34.08 | Adirelle|work | yes |
| 11:34.12 | anenigma | I like the idea of arming a pet though Adirelle|work |
| 11:34.20 | Adirelle|work | lol |
| 11:35.05 | Herio | i'll have to give it a whirl |
| 11:35.43 | Herio | though i scarcely cast fear, i miss having a DR'd timer for it |
| 11:36.03 | Adirelle|work | well... i'm not really trying to 'sell' ST, but I get used to it pre-2 (when it was Sorren's Hunter Timers), and since it was ace'd I'm using it and even working on the french version |
| 11:36.09 | Dhraga | Herio, regarding the DoTimer, you can comment out the Cooldowns + Communication in the Toc or remove the folders, that is for tracking enemy cooldowns |
| 11:36.40 | Herio | i see |
| 11:36.41 | Trancer | castsequence <3 for DoTs :) |
| 11:36.55 | Trancer | just sucks that they all got different duration :/ |
| 11:37.25 | Herio | i prefer to play the game, but that's just me |
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| 11:45.49 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r23210 10KingOfTheJungle/ (KingOfTheJungle.toc Locales/KingOfTheJungle-deDE.lua): |
| 11:45.49 | CIA-17 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 11:45.49 | CIA-17 | - added deDE localization |
| 11:47.13 | CIA-17 | 03totalpackage * r23211 10Capping/ (7 files): |
| 11:47.13 | CIA-17 | Capping |
| 11:47.13 | CIA-17 | - WSG carrier targetting is back! |
| 11:47.13 | CIA-17 | - Options to change bar colors added |
| 11:49.14 | DrZoot | thi is addictive http://www.jeannettevejarano.com/tower-defence.swf |
| 11:49.22 | DrZoot | s/thi/this/ |
| 11:51.57 | Srosh | ~seen sorren |
| 11:52.22 | purl | Srosh: i haven't seen 'sorren' |
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| 12:04.15 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r23212 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: updated deDE localization |
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| 12:10.16 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r23213 10BugSack/ (BugSack-enUS.lua BugSackFu.lua): BugSack: Fix the plugin hint. |
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| 12:15.12 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r23214 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/ (BigWigs_CommonAuras.toc CommonAuras.lua): BigWigs_CommonAuras: Remove the ability to click the shield wall bars to target that player, since that doesn't work in 2.0+ anyway. |
| 12:15.32 | Ominous | what causes FuBar_WarlockTimerFu-1.0 r23151\RuleSet.lua:44: table index is nil? |
| 12:15.53 | Ominous | is that an errro with the table you are making or the table you are inputting from |
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| 12:24.03 | DrZoot | does anyone know where the latest version of auctioneer is? doesnt appear to be on curse |
| 12:24.19 | nevcairiel | (12:49:12) (DrZoot) thi is addictive http://www.jeannettevejarano.com/tower-defence.swf <- 64 :x |
| 12:24.40 | Tornhoof | 72 ;) |
| 12:24.57 | nevcairiel | was my first game |
| 12:24.57 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 12:24.57 | DrZoot | nevcairiel, haha, the highest i can get is 67, i have a friend who says he can get to 82 consistantly |
| 12:25.17 | nevcairiel | i might try again |
| 12:25.26 | nevcairiel | now that ive learned which towers are crap |
| 12:26.39 | Tornhoof | the large nature towers make nice dmg for a cheap price |
| 12:26.42 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r23215 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: Drycoded attempt to unregister the addon action events when they're not needed. |
| 12:26.47 | Tornhoof | the large ice towers have huge range |
| 12:26.57 | nevcairiel | i was going with ice towers |
| 12:27.02 | nevcairiel | shooting all over the map :D |
| 12:27.06 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 12:27.21 | Tornhoof | i usually start with one fire tower |
| 12:27.30 | naenee | Wow |
| 12:27.30 | Tornhoof | which upgrades just nicely up to medium |
| 12:27.33 | naenee | great game :D |
| 12:27.38 | Tornhoof | and later ice |
| 12:27.39 | naenee | sharing it with my girlfriend in a moment |
| 12:27.41 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r23216 10BugSack/BugSack.lua: BugSack: Drycoded attempt to unregister the addon action events when they're not needed. |
| 12:28.24 | nevcairiel | i build one of those expensive towers for trying them |
| 12:28.27 | nevcairiel | dont do that :D |
| 12:29.50 | Wobin | aw |
| 12:29.52 | Wobin | 57 |
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| 12:37.43 | naenee | woops. windows locked up |
| 12:38.00 | naenee | that never happens to me at home ; |
| 12:38.01 | naenee | :( |
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| 12:39.58 | naenee | *builds fire towers* |
| 12:41.11 | nevcairiel | haha the largest nature towers own |
| 12:42.09 | odt | yea |
| 12:42.17 | odt | after i found that out i lost interest in the game |
| 12:42.23 | odt | made to lvl74 only though |
| 12:42.42 | odt | *wave |
| 12:43.29 | naenee | scorwe 11 : |
| 12:43.35 | naenee | *score 11 :| |
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| 12:44.26 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r23217 10SimpleChatMods/ (9 files): SimpleChatMods: Initial re-import of the legacy chat mods of old that were removed yesterday, just with a new (random) name. |
| 12:44.58 | naenee | I wish the rabbit things were on wowace.com/files though |
| 12:45.47 | nevcairiel | they are not? |
| 12:46.07 | vhaarr | Of course they are. |
| 12:46.24 | naenee | They are? |
| 12:46.43 | gngsk| | who's rabbit?! |
| 12:46.53 | Wobin | vhaar |
| 12:47.02 | naenee | Ah, but in trunk or such? |
| 12:47.05 | nevcairiel | vhaarr is rabbit |
| 12:47.25 | Wobin | oh man, the ultimates have a slow shooting speed |
| 12:48.24 | Industrial | yeah |
| 12:48.25 | nevcairiel | 73 |
| 12:48.26 | nevcairiel | and dead |
| 12:48.26 | nevcairiel | doh! |
| 12:48.29 | Industrial | doh |
| 12:48.34 | Industrial | 66 |
| 12:49.09 | naenee | My highest is 11 so far. |
| 12:49.17 | naenee | I think I'm missing something :) But 'll keep at it |
| 12:49.17 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 12:49.22 | Industrial | the ultimates are crap :( im doing only the green ones cause they do most dmg at best lvl |
| 12:49.30 | Industrial | 68 dead |
| 12:50.10 | nevcairiel | i tried with only greens, but in the high levels its really getting hard |
| 12:50.16 | Gagorian | 71 so far |
| 12:50.20 | Gagorian | well first try |
| 12:50.32 | Industrial | nevcairiel: yes |
| 12:50.42 | Wobin | I need to survive enough to get a nature tower =P |
| 12:50.46 | Industrial | what advantages do the others have? |
| 12:50.57 | Tornhoof | ice: huge range |
| 12:51.05 | Industrial | http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/7199/untitledel3.png |
| 12:51.07 | Tornhoof | nature: huge end damage |
| 12:51.11 | nevcairiel | ice can shoot at a very high range |
| 12:51.11 | nevcairiel | dunno about fire |
| 12:51.19 | Hajitorus | holy does respectable damage |
| 12:51.27 | Industrial | .. |
| 12:51.33 | nevcairiel | which is holy? |
| 12:51.36 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 12:51.45 | TheKarn`bed | 70 |
| 12:51.57 | Tornhoof | fire is nice for starting |
| 12:51.58 | Hajitorus | light? i can't remember :P |
| 12:52.11 | Tornhoof | since you get fairly much firepower for like 600 |
| 12:52.17 | nevcairiel | fire has good starting dmg |
| 12:52.21 | nevcairiel | but gets expensive |
| 12:52.51 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r23218 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc SpellData.lua): |
| 12:52.51 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 12:52.51 | CIA-17 | -Added entangling roots and a final solution to the increase in basedamage (it's exact now anyway). Still need data for priests, mages and druids. |
| 12:52.56 | naenee | Ah, doing better now |
| 12:53.46 | nevcairiel | what druid data do you need? |
| 12:53.51 | CIA-17 | 03flutia * r23219 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 12:53.51 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 12:53.52 | CIA-17 | - BS: fixed koKR ("Gift of Life" translation) |
| 12:54.41 | Tornhoof | i usually upgrade my fire tower to like 600, (2000 dmg or something), then build one huge nature tower, then a few ice towers, then nature again |
| 12:56.41 | nevcairiel | i started with one nature tower and upgraded it fast |
| 12:57.08 | nevcairiel | for like 30 levels it did everything alone |
| 12:57.40 | Industrial | i cant pause? |
| 12:57.49 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 12:57.54 | Tornhoof | to have some backup fire power you need some lower nature towers, you can upgrade to max |
| 12:58.05 | Tornhoof | but i can't really get above 7x |
| 12:58.50 | nevcairiel | you dont get enough money around that levels to upgrade enough |
| 12:58.57 | nevcairiel | there must be some weird strategy :P |
| 12:59.04 | Wobin | yeah |
| 12:59.08 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 12:59.11 | TheKarn`bed | save eearly when you dont need to spend |
| 12:59.12 | Wobin | something like "omg ice" |
| 12:59.29 | Tornhoof | ice won't do the trick at like above 65 |
| 12:59.32 | naenee | Well, heading back home. *pokes neenee* wake up! |
| 12:59.32 | Tornhoof | not enough dmg |
| 12:59.34 | Wobin | no it doesn't |
| 13:00.05 | TheKarn`bed | depends where you put them |
| 13:00.30 | Tornhoof | on the second large block there |
| 13:00.34 | Tornhoof | hits everywhere |
| 13:00.36 | nevcairiel | the 300-range-ice can basicly be put anywhere on the central map :P |
| 13:00.40 | Tornhoof | not fully upgraded though |
| 13:00.55 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r23220 10CBRipoff/ (14 files in 4 dirs): |
| 13:00.55 | CIA-17 | CBRipoff: Casting bar mod, complete rip of someone elses work, some textures and |
| 13:00.55 | CIA-17 | stuff removed, and only drycode for now while I'm still on vacation. Everyone |
| 13:00.56 | CIA-17 | should feel free to commit to this crap, just know that I'll have at you on IRC |
| 13:00.56 | CIA-17 | if you fuck up or commit something I don't approve of. |
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| 13:01.42 | Dhraga | I got 72 on http://www.jeannettevejarano.com/tower-defence.swf |
| 13:01.47 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:02.03 | Dhraga | a d d i c t i v e :P |
| 13:02.04 | Tornhoof | you don't need the largest ice tower usually, the second largest does hit fine and it's just like a 1000dmg differencd |
| 13:02.13 | restored | Too bad that the Battlehealer Mods Castbar was scrapped by the author.. That was Awsome |
| 13:02.29 | nevcairiel | vhaarr whats that? oCB ? :P |
| 13:02.35 | vhaarr | ye :P |
| 13:03.08 | haste | :3 |
| 13:03.44 | odt | you guys noticed, that the nature tower upgrades do actually far less dmg than displayed until max rank? |
| 13:03.55 | Tornhoof | really? |
| 13:03.57 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: Tooltip base damage ranges |
| 13:04.12 | odt | at least on the upgrade picture the damage it shows is higher than after the upgrade |
| 13:04.21 | nevcairiel | the nature towers suck, until full upgraded |
| 13:04.26 | odt | yep |
| 13:04.28 | Tornhoof | yeh they do |
| 13:04.41 | odt | so it's a buggy piece of crap game anyway :P |
| 13:04.50 | Wobin | jesus christ |
| 13:04.52 | Wobin | it's a lion |
| 13:04.54 | Wobin | get in the car |
| 13:04.57 | Tornhoof | we like buggy games don't we ;) |
| 13:05.35 | Industrial | im losing again |
| 13:05.44 | Adirelle|work | i got 67 :/ |
| 13:05.58 | Industrial | yep 65 im done for |
| 13:06.06 | Industrial | 66 again |
| 13:06.06 | Industrial | lol |
| 13:06.27 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:06.33 | Adirelle|work | when ice tower upgrade reachs 730, it's time to upgrade your fire for 600 |
| 13:06.57 | Industrial | http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6382/untitledln5.png |
| 13:07.00 | Adirelle|work | lower range than fire but huge damage up |
| 13:07.18 | Industrial | i lost it at 59 :( |
| 13:07.18 | Tornhoof | industrial |
| 13:07.19 | Ominous | can a lvl 11 not crit? |
| 13:07.27 | Tornhoof | put your towers at the first corner |
| 13:07.31 | Ominous | against critters i dont get crits |
| 13:07.40 | Tornhoof | and the ice towers on the second large block |
| 13:07.46 | Tornhoof | in the middle |
| 13:07.48 | nevcairiel | keep trying |
| 13:07.58 | Industrial | Tornhoof: screenshot :D |
| 13:08.04 | lassizci | That game is buggy |
| 13:08.23 | lassizci | the towers are not that effective when the turrets are turning |
| 13:08.26 | nevcairiel | aw dont complain, just play, or l2p :P |
| 13:08.32 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:08.47 | lassizci | well.. 115 my record :) |
| 13:08.53 | Industrial | __< |
| 13:08.56 | Industrial | -_< |
| 13:09.03 | Tornhoof | ss or it didn't happen |
| 13:09.22 | lassizci | probably I need to replay |
| 13:09.36 | Industrial | whats fire good for/at? |
| 13:09.39 | lassizci | would get much more if the turrents were working as intended |
| 13:10.11 | lassizci | flower cannons are the best ones of they are used straight at the end of road |
| 13:10.11 | Ominous | is there anyone here who can test my warlock timer branch? |
| 13:10.14 | lassizci | if they have to shoot all around, they suck |
| 13:10.15 | Ominous | if i put it up |
| 13:10.32 | Industrial | lassizci: i put them at the beginning |
| 13:10.40 | Industrial | last game |
| 13:10.51 | Industrial | but where/how do i use the fire ones :P |
| 13:10.57 | Industrial | need to write down the dmg/range tables |
| 13:10.58 | Industrial | :D |
| 13:11.04 | Industrial | see whats most economic :> |
| 13:11.06 | lassizci | bad thing is also it makes turrets disappear once in a while |
| 13:11.06 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 13:11.31 | lassizci | ...when you try to put a new one close to some turret |
| 13:11.38 | Industrial | and ten put alot of the same ones up that are most economic = win? |
| 13:11.41 | Industrial | then* |
| 13:12.29 | TheKarn`bed | 74 |
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| 13:14.54 | Industrial | http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3192/untitledrd4.png |
| 13:14.59 | Industrial | Tornhoof: this was not really working |
| 13:14.59 | Industrial | :s |
| 13:15.24 | lassizci | no it won't work |
| 13:15.38 | Industrial | < Tornhoof> put your towers at the first corner |
| 13:15.42 | Industrial | < Tornhoof> and the ice towers on the second large block |
| 13:15.44 | lassizci | like I said the turrets must not turn while they are shooting |
| 13:15.52 | Industrial | hmmm |
| 13:16.15 | lassizci | ...or they lose firepower |
| 13:17.37 | evl | Have they changed the stats on any existing items in 2.0.1? |
| 13:17.58 | evl | I had 955 unbuffed AP when I bought my new GM pants yesterday, I tried them on and got 931 AP now when I take my NS pants back on I have 947, wtf? |
| 13:18.13 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:18.26 | nevcairiel | but yes they did |
| 13:18.31 | [Ammo] | washed your pants too hot? |
| 13:18.39 | nevcairiel | all item with massive agility ( Hunter item ) got changed to AP |
| 13:18.51 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: Did you see my message? I need tooltip base damage/heal ranges. When they've reached their maximum values. |
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| 13:19.02 | evl | nevcairiel: but my NS pants don't have more AP now |
| 13:19.07 | evl | they have zero ap boost infact |
| 13:19.21 | nevcairiel | you must be bugged then |
| 13:19.48 | nevcairiel | Gagorian: i guess i could supply some |
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| 13:20.16 | Gagorian | Would be nice |
| 13:20.39 | Gagorian | Easiest (for me) would be if you'd fill them right into the .lua but whatever's fine :) |
| 13:20.48 | lassizci | something like this works better: http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=towerdefyr0.png |
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| 13:21.10 | nevcairiel | once my blizz downloader stops jamming the line |
| 13:25.35 | CIA-17 | 03evilelvis * r23221 10eePanels/core.lua: eePanels: added validation checks to width/height/x/y input fields (double periods still pass for some unknonw reason, even though they shouldn't). |
| 13:27.23 | TheKarn`bed | i swear you get less and less money as the game goes on |
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| 13:29.14 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23222 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (Bars/Buffs.lua Core.lua RuleSet.lua): FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - Find Weakness now works, i think |
| 13:30.23 | Industrial | 75 |
| 13:30.59 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r23223 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 13:30.59 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 13:30.59 | CIA-17 | -Small fix for localized clients (hopefully). |
| 13:31.19 | Industrial | http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7481/untitledxa6.png |
| 13:31.23 | Industrial | where did i go wrong here? |
| 13:31.39 | Industrial | the one i was upgrading disappeared when i plced the ice one btw |
| 13:32.37 | lassizci | yeah, it does that |
| 13:32.46 | lassizci | I said it's a bit buggy :) |
| 13:32.46 | Gagorian | if it's too close the other might disappear |
| 13:32.52 | Tornhoof | http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3450/74pointsdo2.jpg |
| 13:32.59 | Gagorian | The problem with that is that towrs dont utilize their max range in every direction |
| 13:33.00 | Tornhoof | that's how mine looks usually |
| 13:33.06 | Gagorian | if you put on an edge where it can't soot over |
| 13:33.08 | Tornhoof | works fine until 70 |
| 13:33.10 | Gagorian | *shoot |
| 13:33.31 | Ordog | lol is that really a towerdefense in WoW ? |
| 13:33.48 | Gagorian | umm, check the screenshot closer |
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| 13:35.45 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23224 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/ (9 files in 3 dirs): FuBar_WarlockTimerFu: Bug fixes and move additions |
| 13:35.49 | Industrial | Ordog: yes, yes it is. |
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| 13:42.24 | TheKarn | flower towers are shit |
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| 13:46.30 | Thrae | Where's the AceUpdater? |
| 13:47.17 | Trancer | on sf.net |
| 13:47.33 | Trancer | http://wowaceupdater.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page |
| 13:47.49 | Thrae | Ah, thanks. |
| 13:50.28 | Industrial | 76 |
| 13:50.28 | Industrial | im losing again |
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| 13:51.34 | Industrial | 79 dead |
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| 13:53.36 | Industrial | http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/2051/untitledgr5.png |
| 13:53.58 | Industrial | I placed them on the 'back' too thinking they would shoot the latest one |
| 13:54.03 | Industrial | but no :( |
| 13:54.34 | ravagernl | :o tower defense that isnt even wc3 :P |
| 13:54.49 | Industrial | hm, any other tips? |
| 13:55.03 | Industrial | ravagernl: http://www.jeannettevejarano.com/tower-defence.swf |
| 13:55.43 | ravagernl | Well in wc3 it was a common rule that quality > quantity |
| 13:55.57 | ravagernl | so that meant upgrade upgrade upgrade |
| 13:56.04 | ravagernl | dunno if that helps in this game :) |
| 13:56.13 | nevcairiel | it does |
| 13:56.19 | nevcairiel | the low lvl things suck |
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| 13:57.42 | nevcairiel | aw finally, the blizz loader finished |
| 13:57.47 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r23225 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc SpellData.lua): |
| 13:57.47 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 13:57.47 | CIA-17 | -Added option to change Y-coordinate of actionbar text, added healing touch ranks 1-7 |
| 13:59.45 | ravagernl | rawr gagorian is my hero |
| 14:00.15 | Gagorian | :P |
| 14:00.20 | Thrae | son of a bitch! I just wrote an impossibly long post, and it got deleted in the cache because my login timed out. |
| 14:00.23 | odt | Industrial: doesn't that layout leave most of the guns inactive for a big time |
| 14:00.27 | kenlyric|work | hmmm... any priest skills in that thing yet? |
| 14:00.48 | Gagorian | kenlyric|work: Yes |
| 14:00.57 | axxo | use the back button! |
| 14:01.17 | Thrae | axxo: What part of __deleted in the cache__ don't you understand? |
| 14:01.31 | axxo | the part where any good brower can still get it |
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| 14:02.02 | Thrae | I'm using Firefox, and it's gone. It must be the forum's script which deleted it. |
| 14:02.26 | axxo | you press back, till you have your edit box |
| 14:02.28 | axxo | copy/paste |
| 14:02.41 | Thrae | axxo: IT...IS...DELETED...IN...THE...CACHE |
| 14:02.53 | axxo | unless you closed your browser it shouldn't be :) |
| 14:02.58 | Thrae | Well it is. |
| 14:03.04 | Thrae | I pressed back. |
| 14:03.05 | kenlyric|work | yeah, even when you use the back buttons some forms have scripts which clear them out. |
| 14:03.24 | Worf | ah - so that's a feature then |
| 14:03.26 | axxo | bad browser if it executes javascript on back |
| 14:03.32 | kenlyric|work | I can't use the back button in that fashion for the incident tracking system we have at work. It's very annoying. |
| 14:03.39 | ravagernl | gagorian, I still don't really get what maxLevel does, is it spellLevel +5 or is it something else? |
| 14:04.07 | Thrae | axxo: No, Firefox is doing exactly what it's suppose to do...IE and Opera, et. all do the same thing with the WoW forums. |
| 14:04.18 | Thrae | It's bad forum code, period. |
| 14:05.27 | Worf | web forums are bad anyway. discussions are meant to be on nntp servers |
| 14:05.42 | ravagernl | Thrae: It's a good way if you first type out the post in notepad |
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| 14:06.46 | Thrae | ravagernl: Well I haven't used the WoW forums in a while, so I forgot. |
| 14:07.28 | Gagorian | ravagernl |
| 14:07.53 | Gagorian | It's usually the level before the level when you recieve the next rank of the spell |
| 14:07.57 | vhaarr | Fucking crap forum stuff. |
| 14:08.00 | Gagorian | It's used in downranking calculations |
| 14:08.18 | kenlyric|work | I wonder if the forums don't cache.. |
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| 14:08.22 | vhaarr | All forums should be permanently deleted and NNTP should be pushed down childrens throat. |
| 14:08.33 | Gagorian | healing downranking for example is spelldamagebonus * (( maxlevel + 6 ) / playerlevel) |
| 14:08.46 | kenlyric|work | I know that's the problem with my tracking system, so when I hit "back", it has to get the page again. |
| 14:10.21 | Gagorian | ravagernl: Did you get it now? :) |
| 14:11.44 | ravagernl | gagorian: Yes I see what its used for but I don't understand where you got that information from |
| 14:11.54 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r23226 10BigWigs/Other/Onyxia.lua: BigWigs: Onyxia: Attempt to fix deep breath trigger, thanks Ekate. |
| 14:12.10 | Gagorian | Experimental mostly, but it's based on the post by blizzard |
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| 14:13.04 | Gagorian | ravagernl: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=38173821&sid=1 |
| 14:13.29 | Gagorian | the "spell level" in that post is the same as my maxlevel |
| 14:13.48 | ravagernl | I see |
| 14:14.26 | Industrial | 78: http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/5449/untitledbq6.png |
| 14:14.39 | Gagorian | now in my spelldata if there's an exception (which there usually is) the [0] spell value has a variable called Downrank |
| 14:14.45 | Gagorian | which adjusts the maxlevel for the entire spell |
| 14:15.12 | Industrial | i think im about done with this game |
| 14:15.22 | Industrial | cant improve much anymore :( |
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| 14:15.47 | Gagorian | that's completely experimental and the values I have for warlocks/Shaman are tested by me, I'll still need to see what priest/mage/druid spells are exceptions |
| 14:17.23 | Mikma | haste: :D |
| 14:18.30 | Mikma | haste: how did you figure out it was me? ;D |
| 14:18.58 | haste | Mikma: The text :p ? |
| 14:19.09 | Mikma | was it that obvious? :D |
| 14:19.13 | haste | yes :3 |
| 14:19.16 | Mikma | hehe |
| 14:19.29 | Industrial | ??? |
| 14:19.35 | Mikma | well, i have invited you to chat with me :D |
| 14:19.39 | Mikma | answer me biootch |
| 14:19.44 | Mikma | Industrial: gmail.com rocks. |
| 14:19.48 | Industrial | lol |
| 14:19.54 | Industrial | i turn that off :( |
| 14:20.06 | Mikma | i use adium which has gmail chat support <3 |
| 14:20.22 | Industrial | (wich is actually jabber) |
| 14:20.33 | ravagernl | anyway Gagorian I really like the progress of this addon, have been using TC2 before but think it's sometimes poorly coded |
| 14:20.39 | Mikma | i also have been testing Nurfed and it's hard as hell to configure |
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| 14:21.26 | ravagernl | Nurfed >< blegh... |
| 14:21.39 | Mikma | yes? |
| 14:22.26 | DrZoot | is there anyway to send this a variable number of arguments? math.min () |
| 14:22.31 | Gagorian | TC is a terrible mess when checking out the code |
| 14:23.05 | DrZoot | I want the min of a set of numbers but im not sure how many numbers there are going to be |
| 14:23.07 | Industrial | ravagernl: what addon :D |
| 14:23.23 | ravagernl | industrial: DrDamage :P |
| 14:23.28 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:23.37 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23227 10Cartographer_Mining/Artwork/Rich_Thorium.tga: Cartographer_Mining: added some new artwork for rich thorium not yet visible in-game |
| 14:23.39 | Industrial | ravagernl: what does it do? |
| 14:23.42 | evl | Industrial: do the blue towers slow? what do i need nature for (root?) and what do the wind tower do? |
| 14:23.51 | krka | function math.min2(a,b,...) if b then return math.min2(math.min(a,b), ...) else return a end end |
| 14:23.56 | ravagernl | industrial: Theorycraft ace2 style :) |
| 14:24.19 | ravagernl | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DrDamage |
| 14:24.22 | Industrial | evl: the ice are long range and the the nature are high power |
| 14:24.26 | Mikma | DrDamage ain't that good :( |
| 14:24.33 | Mikma | it doesn't support BT3 paging at all |
| 14:24.37 | Industrial | i have NO idea what theorycraft is |
| 14:24.48 | Gagorian | Mikma: BT3 paging, how so? :l |
| 14:25.06 | Industrial | oh |
| 14:25.07 | Industrial | nice |
| 14:25.09 | Mikma | Gagorian: i use shift, alt and ctrl to swap pages. DrDamage doesn't update to new buttons |
| 14:25.09 | Industrial | *use* |
| 14:25.20 | Gagorian | Mikma: does for me |
| 14:25.40 | nevcairiel | wow that actually worked now. i installed my german copy of wow and the english language pack. and it seems to be the same as before. BC can come! :) |
| 14:25.42 | Adirelle|work | evl: all towers do only damage, ice tower have long range and low dmg, nature towers have quite long range and med damage, fire towers have shot range, high damage, storm tower cannot be upgraded |
| 14:25.48 | Gagorian | it relies on actionbar_page_changed event.. now if that doesn't trigger then it might not |
| 14:25.48 | Mikma | doesn't for me. when there is some action going on (ie i open engineering) it might update the buttons |
| 14:25.58 | evl | what does storm tower do? |
| 14:26.13 | CIA-17 | 03laotseu * r23228 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.toc: AllPlayed: Preparation for release 20000-3 |
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| 14:26.26 | Mikma | tekpup has arrived |
| 14:26.30 | Adirelle|work | evl: med range med damage i think, but they can't be upgraded |
| 14:26.39 | Industrial | evl: its pretty hard damage at start for 40 cost but you cant upgrade it |
| 14:26.47 | Gagorian | Mikma: Make an event handler and see if you get actionbar_page_changed event when you change pages |
| 14:26.56 | evl | but ice towers dont slow? |
| 14:27.00 | Adirelle|work | nop |
| 14:27.02 | Industrial | no |
| 14:27.05 | evl | lol, newb game |
| 14:27.10 | Industrial | lmao |
| 14:27.10 | evl | Green TD ftw |
| 14:27.14 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r23229 10BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows/ (4 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows: deDE with sounds, thanks Lagosor! |
| 14:27.19 | Mikma | Gagorian: well i don't use it because i can almost remember what damage my spells do :) |
| 14:27.25 | Industrial | how is it a newb game if you havent played it |
| 14:27.27 | Industrial | :| |
| 14:27.31 | evl | I'm on wave 40 |
| 14:27.33 | Industrial | get above 80 :> |
| 14:27.36 | Adirelle|work | but ice can be quickly upgraded to shoot all over the map |
| 14:27.51 | Gagorian | Mikma: Your choice, but if you say something doesn't work that should I want to know why |
| 14:28.30 | Mikma | Gagorian: well the old damages of old bars are being shown on other buttons. that's what happened on me. can't explain more since i deleted it |
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| 14:28.54 | kagaro | kergoth: ping |
| 14:29.44 | Worf | 1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms |
| 14:29.59 | Wobin | hehe |
| 14:30.09 | Mikma | Industrial: lol, Karma: +145/-228 |
| 14:30.11 | nevcairiel | short timeout there |
| 14:30.16 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:31.41 | Industrial | Mikma: :p |
| 14:31.42 | Gagorian | Mikma: Well, it might've been the version in question. I've done changes to that mechanic a few times. |
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| 14:31.56 | Grine | hullo |
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| 14:34.15 | Mikma | HAHA, here's something new http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc |
| 14:34.20 | Mikma | Spiders on Drugs |
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| 14:37.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:38.04 | Tekkub | http://www.theonion.com/content/node/32804?utm_source=onion_rss_daily |
| 14:38.28 | ravagernl | lmao mikma |
| 14:38.45 | kenlyric|work | hmmm.. strange. I re-enabled honorfu but it didn't show up on the bar. |
| 14:38.51 | Mikma | i think bush has been gay |
| 14:39.06 | Mikma | now he's trying to "get rid of the gays" because he got dumbed |
| 14:39.42 | DrZoot | what happened to make him do this? |
| 14:39.43 | Mikma | and why did he bot dumbed? he just didn't suck hard enough |
| 14:40.37 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r23230 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua SpellData.lua): |
| 14:40.37 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 14:40.37 | CIA-17 | -Added Ice Barrier |
| 14:41.22 | Nimbal | Grrr. Some svn-mirror seems to be out of sync again. |
| 14:41.28 | Adirelle|work | gagorian : btw, is the talent change working ? |
| 14:42.35 | Gagorian | Don't know, I haven't got any info from the frenchie yet :) |
| 14:42.39 | Gagorian | Will tell you when I do |
| 14:47.03 | Industrial | evl: im trying to get 15000 for a flower power tower |
| 14:47.04 | Industrial | :d |
| 14:48.05 | Tornhoof | never managed to get one at all |
| 14:48.12 | evl | :D |
| 14:48.22 | Industrial | no me neither now :( |
| 14:48.31 | Industrial | they are breaching too far already |
| 14:48.37 | Industrial | it has shit range and speed |
| 14:49.36 | andremar | anyone have the url for the turret game handy? |
| 14:49.57 | DrZoot | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLrk4J6hK0M |
| 14:49.59 | Industrial | http://www.jeannettevejarano.com/tower-defence.swf |
| 14:50.41 | ravagernl | industrial: old :P |
| 14:50.46 | evl | lol |
| 14:50.55 | evl | I gave it to the guys at the office |
| 14:51.00 | evl | only problem is that we do flash for a living |
| 14:51.09 | evl | so everyng decompliled it made a trainer |
| 14:51.10 | evl | :P |
| 14:52.14 | ravagernl | bah, seems something wrong with SVN server again, it isn't zipping externals again >< |
| 14:52.24 | Grine | Is it possible to change the border color in baggins? |
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| 14:55.18 | Industrial | evl: boo :( |
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| 14:55.35 | Industrial | update the gfx and release v2 ;x |
| 14:55.43 | Industrial | make the ice ones slow it \o/ |
| 14:55.44 | evl | If people spent all the time fucking around with SVN on coding addons |
| 14:55.50 | evl | We'd have a brand new game imho :) |
| 14:56.03 | Industrial | heh |
| 14:56.05 | Adirelle|work | i can't figure how gaim can put nevcairiel before Mikma when sorting alphabetically... |
| 14:56.16 | nevcairiel | lowercase ? |
| 14:56.17 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:56.19 | tlund | "n" comes before "M" |
| 14:56.34 | Adirelle|work | and Nimbal too ? :) |
| 14:56.39 | Industrial | fail. |
| 14:56.48 | Industrial | thats just not right :P |
| 14:57.07 | Mikma | hijklmnopq |
| 14:57.22 | Adirelle|work | sorry for people I may have woke up by telling their name :) |
| 14:57.26 | Industrial | well it is technically but thats the point. |
| 14:57.48 | *** join/#wowace Nomad_Wanderer (n=chatzill@cpe-66-66-149-60.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 14:57.52 | Nomad_Wanderer | Good morning everyone |
| 14:58.01 | Nimbal | *yawn* What? *snore* |
| 14:58.05 | Nomad_Wanderer | Is there any sort of tooltip mod that shows periodic Tablie info? |
| 14:58.25 | Industrial | Nomad_Wanderer: mendeleev |
| 14:58.42 | ravagernl | lmao http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT64rCuP7bQ&mode=related&search= |
| 14:58.44 | Industrial | thats one of my i-cant-live-without's |
| 14:58.47 | Nomad_Wanderer | Is that compatible with tiny tip? |
| 14:58.54 | ravagernl | yup |
| 14:59.06 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thanks.. I'll look into it |
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| 15:00.23 | Industrial | ravagernl: lol thats great! |
| 15:00.39 | ravagernl | hahaha dumbass alliance |
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| 15:00.58 | ravagernl | theres a gold making tip too |
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| 15:02.04 | ravagernl | make an alt with the name of a blue poster like thundgot, send a goldbeg mail with it to your main, put it in ah, and people will buy it just to prove thundgot has begged for money :P |
| 15:02.11 | ravagernl | lmao |
| 15:02.39 | Industrial | omg :p |
| 15:03.09 | Industrial | i wouldnt auction it with my main |
| 15:03.30 | Industrial | i'd takea third char and delete both after sending the money back to main |
| 15:03.42 | ravagernl | hmm yeah that's smarter aint it |
| 15:03.49 | Industrial | someone might write your main's name down |
| 15:05.12 | Industrial | Question: Does anyone know of a multiclient like gaim or miranda that; 1. works on windows 2. isnt gaim or miranda 3. isnt made of ass and fail |
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| 15:05.26 | |Kev| | Trillian? |
| 15:05.29 | ravagernl | trillian comes up |
| 15:05.38 | |Kev| | non-free, but if that doesn't bother you |
| 15:05.40 | yacoob | Industrial, psi :) |
| 15:05.47 | Azurewrath | Industrial: err.. how about Miranda? ;) |
| 15:05.48 | |Kev| | yacoob: /lick |
| 15:05.50 | yacoob | (jabber transports to other networks) |
| 15:06.13 | Industrial | yacoob: does it do msn? |
| 15:06.19 | |Kev| | yacoob: do I know you? |
| 15:06.32 | Industrial | Azurewrath: miranda sucks with msn when you make your own groups for people, totally messes up the msn client's groups |
| 15:07.03 | Adirelle|work | industrial : and what against gaim (just for knowledge) ? |
| 15:07.09 | phyber | why do you care about the regular MSN client if you're using miranda? ;) |
| 15:07.10 | Azurewrath | Industrial: mhm ok, i only use it with ICQ for several years now.. always worked great |
| 15:07.19 | yacoob | Industrial, it does here. But it's rather releveant on the SERVER you use. |
| 15:07.23 | |Kev| | yacoob: (I'm the Kev from Psi ;)) |
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| 15:07.25 | Industrial | Azurewrath: it is ugly as hell :P |
| 15:07.44 | |Kev| | yacoob: (so appreciated the advert ;)) |
| 15:07.44 | Industrial | yacoob: ok |
| 15:07.47 | Azurewrath | Industrial: not if you config und customize it proper. |
| 15:08.29 | yacoob | Industrial, in jabber there are server-side bots that log in to specific networks on your behalf |
| 15:09.08 | ravagernl | omg bah I have to redownload all of my addons with WAU |
| 15:09.28 | ravagernl | damn zipscript forgot externals of aUF and BT3 |
| 15:09.37 | Adirelle|work | yacoob : does M$ always try to block them ? |
| 15:09.47 | |Kev| | not in my experience |
| 15:10.19 | |Kev| | there's always the concern that they could, but they don't |
| 15:10.19 | Adirelle|work | last time I tried (long ago), msn bridges were quite unstables |
| 15:10.25 | |Kev| | ah |
| 15:10.28 | yacoob | Adirelle|work, works here |
| 15:10.31 | |Kev| | the old C transport was flakey |
| 15:10.39 | |Kev| | but the newer python one is pretty solid |
| 15:10.41 | yacoob | on the other hand, I don't use it much. |
| 15:10.46 | |Kev| | and reasonably featureful |
| 15:11.02 | Adirelle|work | and my main question is : does it handle file transfers ? (don't care about vv) |
| 15:11.07 | |Kev| | yes |
| 15:11.14 | yacoob | dunno |
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| 15:11.27 | Adirelle|work | i'll give a try then |
| 15:11.40 | |Kev| | the biggest problem is finding a transport tbh |
| 15:11.48 | Adirelle|work | "tbh" ? |
| 15:11.51 | |Kev| | to be honest |
| 15:12.08 | Adirelle|work | k |
| 15:12.23 | |Kev| | lots of people run their own servers with transports because the big servers don't tend to run transports, or tend to be unstable |
| 15:12.23 | Adirelle|work | hmm... hearing a cup of coffee calling me... brb |
| 15:12.28 | |Kev| | enjoy :) |
| 15:12.35 | ravagernl | Hey people has everyone ordered TBC yet, here's why I'm asking: http://careerlinked.com/art.php?storyid=34&ghost=busters |
| 15:13.04 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 15:13.04 | nevcairiel | yeah preorderd |
| 15:13.04 | |Kev| | same |
| 15:13.11 | Grine | preordered, queueing for CE though |
| 15:14.21 | tlund | "This is not based on actual fact and is merely a rumor. Please do not view this article as truth until stated by Blizzard." |
| 15:17.11 | kenlyric|work | I'm mostly not going to bother. |
| 15:17.16 | Amadeo | I still have to preorder, I just don't know where to do it from |
| 15:17.20 | kenlyric|work | why wait in line just to sit at a loading screen all day? |
| 15:17.33 | kenlyric|work | it's too late to pre-order from most places. |
| 15:17.38 | kenlyric|work | Since their orders are already in. |
| 15:18.32 | pahvir | :P |
| 15:18.42 | |Kev| | US or EU? |
| 15:18.53 | Amadeo | kenlyric|work: That's true |
| 15:19.00 | |Kev| | play.com are still taking preorders for EU I think |
| 15:19.01 | Amadeo | I believe the servers will be down a few days anyway |
| 15:19.53 | pahvir | I think you might get it from cdon.com too |
| 15:20.10 | kenlyric|work | the more well-run stores will start contacting pre-order customers letting them know how many they are receiving vs the number of pre-orders. |
| 15:20.15 | Stephmw | wonder if places will fill large orders first, or individuals first - I have 5 on pre-order |
| 15:20.26 | |Kev| | are there any w(ow|in)aceupdater people around? |
| 15:20.34 | kenlyric|work | pahvir: maybe in other markets, but not US. Definitely no online distribution. |
| 15:20.54 | pahvir | kenlyric|work, well that's for EU :P |
| 15:21.01 | kenlyric|work | yeah, I hate you all :) |
| 15:21.25 | CIA-17 | 03nimbal 07Nimbal * r23231 10Buffalo/Buffalo/Libs/: |
| 15:21.25 | CIA-17 | Buffalo(Branch): |
| 15:21.25 | CIA-17 | - Added Crayon and Tablet to externals |
| 15:21.26 | kenlyric|work | isn't Vivendi a french company? It's all the frenchies fault. |
| 15:22.32 | pahvir | I preordered mine few months ago since there was special price for those who did. 26,90e and no postage :P |
| 15:24.07 | Tornhoof | no kev, but what's your problem, i modified my version to do some beta stuff, so i might help |
| 15:24.21 | |Kev| | oh, it's not a problem |
| 15:24.34 | |Kev| | I just had a play making a native OSX for a laugh over Christmas |
| 15:25.15 | |Kev| | and wondered how they felt about a native mac version |
| 15:26.01 | |Kev| | it's available at http://code.google.com/p/macaceupdater at the moment, and works for the most part, although it's very feature-bare |
| 15:28.45 | |Kev| | screenshot at http://doomsong.co.uk/tmp/wau-4.png |
| 15:29.56 | kenlyric|work | man, I like that, showing the installed version vs the latest version for ones that are different. |
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| 15:31.07 | Mikma | i just gave some noob a duel of lifetime |
| 15:31.15 | Mikma | i just ran around and let him hit me haha |
| 15:31.44 | Industrial | i pwned a lv 10 warrior with a lv 5 shaman |
| 15:31.49 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:32.10 | |Kev| | kenlyric|work: well, user interfaces are what macs do well, you get so much stuff 'for free' just making a native GUI - that's why I wanted to learn Objective-C and Cocoa |
| 15:32.15 | Industrial | but it was kinda sad cause he used the keyboard to steer. he couldnt hit me |
| 15:32.19 | phyber | frostshooooooooooooe. |
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| 15:32.37 | Industrial | no just my 1h weapon and rank 1 heal |
| 15:32.39 | Industrial | :D |
| 15:32.42 | Amadeo | Some level 60 Hunter in epics attacked my girlfriend and I last night (40 Shaman/40 Warlock), we got him down below half before he killed us...so he spit on us, lol |
| 15:32.43 | kenlyric|work | one of these days I will learn how to use the mouse to steer. |
| 15:33.00 | sbu | hmmm |
| 15:33.08 | Industrial | how can you not steer with the mouse |
| 15:33.15 | Industrial | it makes you so immobile |
| 15:33.15 | sbu | my grid doesnt update when entering BG? |
| 15:33.18 | kenlyric|work | by never learning how. |
| 15:33.22 | ravagernl | I beat a 30 warrior with my 26 druid :P |
| 15:33.26 | Amadeo | You have to be able to use mouselook if you want to be good at PvP |
| 15:33.31 | kenlyric|work | yeah, because mobility is important in my profession :) |
| 15:33.38 | kenlyric|work | Amadeo: exactly. |
| 15:33.48 | Industrial | ravagernl: woohoo thats hard :> he cant do anything unless gnome if you root him.. |
| 15:33.54 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r23232 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Attempt to fix the onlyInGroup issue. |
| 15:34.11 | Amadeo | kenlyric|work: Have you ever played a first person shooter? Quake, etc? |
| 15:34.21 | ravagernl | im horde also industrial :P and feral |
| 15:34.26 | kenlyric|work | yup. I move with my mouse in those. |
| 15:34.40 | Amadeo | kenlyric|work: That's all you have to do! Just right click the screen and go! |
| 15:34.42 | kenlyric|work | hell, I move with everything in those. |
| 15:35.00 | kenlyric|work | right, it's just a matter of adapting it to wow... and finding situations I need it in. |
| 15:35.02 | Industrial | tab and shitf tab are your friends |
| 15:35.21 | Industrial | stop selecting with the mouse and youll learn soon enough :D |
| 15:35.22 | kenlyric|work | I need to remember to remap my tab and shift-tab. |
| 15:35.34 | Amadeo | I still target with my mouse sometimes |
| 15:35.38 | Amadeo | but I'm pretty quick |
| 15:35.51 | kenlyric|work | I Had it just go very badly in an AB trying to mouse target. |
| 15:36.03 | kenlyric|work | let a rogue die from SW:P :/ |
| 15:36.21 | Amadeo | that's when you need raid frames up or something |
| 15:36.27 | Industrial | you can edit tab selection range and cone size but i forgot the CVars :( |
| 15:36.42 | kenlyric|work | have them, but it's a lot easier to select those around you than figure out who is in range. |
| 15:36.46 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 15:36.55 | ravagernl | I use PerfectTargets a lot, really nice for pvp |
| 15:37.05 | ravagernl | good for kill stealing :P |
| 15:37.16 | kenlyric|work | *eyeroll* |
| 15:37.24 | ravagernl | lol |
| 15:37.34 | Health | damage done > KBs |
| 15:37.35 | kagaro | |kev|: the only thing that hit me with you mac port of wau (which is great) is when it fails to download it doesnt say why or what failed clearly if you have a lot of downloads in action |
| 15:37.56 | Amadeo | Winning > Damage Done > KBs |
| 15:38.13 | |Kev| | kagaro: you're very right, the whole downloading/installing thing at the moment is quite sparse |
| 15:38.14 | Health | Winning > Damage Done > KBs |
| 15:38.22 | ravagernl | It doesn't matter now anymore in pvp, it matters how fast your enemies go down |
| 15:38.25 | Health | Anal Leakage > Winning > Damage Done > KBs |
| 15:38.33 | |Kev| | in fact, I don't even use zlib yet, it's actually calling /usr/bin/unzip on the files |
| 15:38.36 | kagaro | but overall im liking it, better than applescripting it for sure |
| 15:38.42 | kenlyric|work | Healing > * |
| 15:38.46 | |Kev| | I'll add an issue for that now |
| 15:38.57 | |Kev| | or you're quite welcome to :) |
| 15:38.57 | ravagernl | hahaha |
| 15:39.46 | |Kev| | I'm planning to update it, even though I wrote it in three evenings as a way to learn a new platform |
| 15:40.00 | |Kev| | so feel free to drop bug or feature request issues into the tracker |
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| 15:41.23 | Industrial | who made Drdamage again? |
| 15:41.32 | Industrial | it doesnt include AceOO wich it needs with the libs |
| 15:43.35 | |Kev| | kagaro: http://code.google.com/p/macaceupdater/issues/detail?id=14&can=2&q= |
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| 15:47.03 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23233 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - Reapplications of everything should now work, removed DR while making a better solution |
| 15:47.16 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r23234 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.toc libs/): |
| 15:47.16 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 15:47.16 | CIA-17 | - Added AceOO-2.0 to TOC and externals. Pointed out by Industrial. |
| 15:47.16 | phyber | Industrial: i didn't make it, but it's fixed now. |
| 15:47.34 | Industrial | how do I get;o |
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| 15:47.45 | Industrial | wups go go wriiting a line and not finishing it |
| 15:47.49 | phyber | www.woace.com/files/DrDamage/ :) |
| 15:47.59 | phyber | but, spell wowace correctly :p |
| 15:48.29 | phyber | what does it do? |
| 15:48.59 | Azurewrath | does anyone have a non-enGB Client with the enGB-ELP installed? |
| 15:49.23 | [dRaCo] | yrah |
| 15:49.27 | [dRaCo] | s/r/e/ |
| 15:49.39 | [dRaCo] | yay, nice script. |
| 15:50.03 | Azurewrath | since 2.0, how did the dir structure change? Is it only one Addons/WTF Folder for the whole Client? |
| 15:50.30 | ravagernl | hey gagorian, are you going to develop a dewdrop menu for drdmg just like aguf and buffalo? |
| 15:50.35 | [dRaCo] | yes, just one |
| 15:51.35 | Azurewrath | [dRaCo]: so you install the non-enGB Patch, select the language you want in the Launcher, then start.. and with all languages you can use the same addons, wtf and savedvars.. correct? |
| 15:51.50 | [dRaCo] | yes |
| 15:52.04 | [dRaCo] | at least if the addons support the selected language |
| 15:52.09 | axxo | how do you suppress the errors again in a macro? |
| 15:52.14 | Health | drdamage does what? |
| 15:52.23 | Azurewrath | [dRaCo]: sure.. thank you. :) |
| 15:52.37 | [dRaCo] | no problem |
| 15:52.44 | Health | I found it on wikie. |
| 15:52.50 | ravagernl | drdamage is ace2 theorycraft :P |
| 15:53.06 | Amadeo | whoa, Apple and HP are going to launch LED backlighted notebooks in Q2 |
| 15:53.46 | Health | link! |
| 15:54.06 | Amadeo | http://www.digitimes.com/displays/a20070103PD210.html |
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| 15:56.01 | kenlyric|work | wouldn't LEDs give you a gigantic pixel size? |
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| 15:56.33 | Tornhoof | phyber, any plan to add color selection for your drdamage mod? |
| 15:56.37 | Health | That's why they are used for backlight and not pixels |
| 15:56.42 | Tornhoof | that yellow/green is kinda unreadable here |
| 15:56.42 | Health | DUH!!!!!!! |
| 15:57.16 | phyber | Tornhoof: it's not my mod :p |
| 15:57.19 | kenlyric|work | why do you need a backlight for a monitor in the first place? |
| 15:57.22 | phyber | I was just fixing the missing AceOO |
| 15:57.29 | kenlyric|work | doesn't it generate its own light? |
| 15:57.31 | |Kev| | kenlyric|work: LCDs don't emit light |
| 15:57.41 | Tornhoof | ic |
| 15:57.44 | Tornhoof | go fix that too :) |
| 15:57.51 | |Kev| | they're all backlit anyway |
| 15:57.57 | lassizci | http://homepage.mac.com/adambetts/forums/Apple30Years.jpg |
| 15:57.59 | kenlyric|work | so, errr, what I am I seeing right now? |
| 15:58.01 | |Kev| | they're just proposing a different backlight :) |
| 15:58.20 | Health | kenlyric|work: backlight |
| 15:59.37 | Nomad_Wanderer | Can anyone offer insight on how baggins rule precedence works? |
| 15:59.49 | Amadeo | "The first 30 years were soft on your wallet" - wtf? |
| 16:00.03 | |Kev| | not on mine they weren't :) |
| 16:00.05 | kenlyric|work | yes, we established that. What kind of backlight do they currently use. |
| 16:00.10 | Amadeo | Apple has been overpriced until Intel hardware came in, and now they're somewhat competitive, but still expensive |
| 16:00.11 | |Kev| | and I've only been a mac user for 2 years or so :) |
| 16:01.44 | |Kev| | kenlyric|work: I have no idea, sorry |
| 16:01.59 | Nomad_Wanderer | Like I don't want my Torch of Retribution labeled as trash, but I can't seem to get a Not Select ItemID 10515, to work with select Quality <= Poor |
| 16:03.16 | kenlyric|work | " Most computer displays are lit with built-in fluorescent tubes above, beside and sometimes behind the LCD. A white diffusion panel behind the LCD redirects and scatters the light evenly to ensure a uniform display." |
| 16:03.33 | |Kev| | ooh |
| 16:03.35 | |Kev| | shiny :) |
| 16:03.39 | kenlyric|work | so led should make them lighter. |
| 16:03.48 | kenlyric|work | and use less juice |
| 16:03.59 | Nomad_Wanderer | nvm. pebkac error.. |
| 16:04.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | :p |
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| 16:04.56 | Mikma | meh i found a hobby for myself |
| 16:05.05 | Mikma | i am sitting in booty bay with pvp on |
| 16:05.10 | Mikma | (lvl 31 warlock) |
| 16:05.18 | Mikma | and, afk on too ;) |
| 16:06.05 | kenlyric|work | how many people have you killed? ;) |
| 16:06.06 | Eej | it took me a while to get that |
| 16:06.23 | Mikma | kenlyric|work: 1 so far :) |
| 16:06.23 | deltron | lol |
| 16:06.29 | Eej | I was trying to remember, "isn't Booty Bay contested territory?" |
| 16:06.48 | kenlyric|work | just have to make sure you have decent rep with them, or they might go for you instead. |
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| 16:06.50 | deltron | Mikma: I do that in eastern plaguelands at lights hope chapel also, only the guards are much more powerful there :) |
| 16:07.04 | evl | Hehe, that was a classic a while back |
| 16:07.05 | Mikma | deltron: yeah haste teached us the same trick :) |
| 16:07.14 | evl | Naked Paladin with mind control helm and BOP :D |
| 16:07.18 | kagaro | kergoth: ping |
| 16:07.23 | Health | During new years eve all bruisers there were renamed "Drunken Bruiser" and was sleeping with those green zzZzz |
| 16:07.25 | Health | I was there. |
| 16:07.32 | Health | In BB |
| 16:07.47 | Mikma | yeah they were :D |
| 16:07.49 | Mikma | was funny |
| 16:08.07 | Eej | so are there really that many more stupid people on pve servers? |
| 16:08.08 | evl | I need some inventory management mod |
| 16:08.13 | Mikma | evl: Baggins |
| 16:08.16 | krka | damn, died on wave 73 |
| 16:08.16 | evl | I've tried to use Sanity but it's buggy and it can't compress |
| 16:08.23 | krka | which tower should i go for? |
| 16:08.27 | evl | I need to get an overview of what my different chars have |
| 16:08.30 | krka | seems like nature is best |
| 16:08.36 | krka | then again, ice reaches longer |
| 16:08.37 | kenlyric|work | what's sanity buggy with? |
| 16:08.43 | kenlyric|work | and I'm pretty sure compression works now. |
| 16:08.45 | evl | Clicking a column header blows stuff up |
| 16:08.48 | Health | You're a bit out of context krka! |
| 16:08.49 | packetlss | i'd say it's more stupid people on pvp servers actually |
| 16:08.55 | evl | And you can't compress from bank to bags :( |
| 16:08.57 | Grine | Mikma, can I recolor the border on baggins bags? |
| 16:09.06 | Mikma | Grine: dunno |
| 16:09.09 | kenlyric|work | oh, I see. |
| 16:09.09 | evl | And I can't get it to update when I try to move stuff from the bags to the bank |
| 16:09.12 | kenlyric|work | Get Mr.Plow. |
| 16:09.17 | kenlyric|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.31 | TheKarn | someone should make a baggins sorter |
| 16:09.39 | Grine | kk, I thought I got a dialog when clicking around yesterday but now I can't find it... |
| 16:09.48 | kenlyric|work | evl, simplest mod if you don't like sanity is probably OneView |
| 16:10.44 | evl | But it doesn't display a compressed view |
| 16:10.47 | evl | I really suck at counting |
| 16:10.53 | evl | when there's 700+ thorium bars |
| 16:11.10 | evl | I'll try Sanity2 + MrPlow! |
| 16:11.15 | evl | That name again, is Mr. Plow |
| 16:11.41 | Nomad_Wanderer | So is there any way to debug baggins? I can't figure out why an item is where it is... I'm sure it's a rule precedence thing. |
| 16:11.46 | kenlyric|work | well, you still have the problem that it will show one count for your bank, one count for bags.So you'll have to add those two together in your head. |
| 16:11.56 | evl | kergoth: Want me to give you the pastey of the sanityt errors I get? |
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| 16:12.32 | kenlyric|work | kergoth: the bug with clicking on category headers is well known. |
| 16:12.44 | kenlyric|work | unless it got fixed in the past few days. |
| 16:12.57 | evl | oops :P |
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| 16:13.31 | snurre- | wtb target of focus frame |
| 16:13.46 | kenlyric|work | snurre-: also, target of pet frame |
| 16:13.51 | naenee | Indeed ;) |
| 16:13.56 | naenee | WTB pet frame too |
| 16:14.08 | naenee | I'm at wave 30 now :) |
| 16:14.25 | snurre- | i have pet frame o.O |
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| 16:15.21 | Health | Where do I get to play with waves? |
| 16:15.45 | Amadeo | the ocean |
| 16:15.45 | TheKarn | naenee, still playing towerdefense? |
| 16:15.47 | Mikma | http://reaktio.net/~josma/Sonja/Joulu/PICT1768.JPG :D <- Sonja knows she's about to get gifts from santa on the left |
| 16:16.03 | naenee | TheKarn: yup, just started it again and I'm doing well this time :) |
| 16:17.18 | Health | That's a tiny dog! |
| 16:17.38 | Mikma | yeah, she's 13 weeks old now :) |
| 16:17.39 | Adirelle|afk | damn, can't reach 60 again |
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| 16:19.35 | CIA-17 | 03beerke * r23235 10KingOfTheJungle/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:19.35 | CIA-17 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 16:19.35 | CIA-17 | - Feed pet Button can now be moved |
| 16:19.35 | CIA-17 | - Fixed dropdown menu not being localized |
| 16:19.35 | CIA-17 | - Fixed some minor warnings not being localized |
| 16:19.36 | CIA-17 | - Added Babble-Spell for Feed Pet |
| 16:20.45 | beerke | btw, quite annoying, but i can 't update from trunk atm due to not revision found... |
| 16:21.53 | Hjalte | Nomad_Wanderer: Just open the category viewer and find that items item id and then open periodictable.lua in the libs\periodic table folder in the baggins addon folder and find that item id in the file. |
| 16:22.14 | Elkano | ... someone should fix FactionItemsFu... by now I've gotten two bug reporst for that addon... but I didn't ever touch or use it... why do people think it's my addon :/ |
| 16:22.19 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thanks. |
| 16:22.33 | Nomad_Wanderer | Baggins is an awesome mod, but it needs help with the config.. Thats the downfall |
| 16:23.31 | JoshBork1 | KaeltenAway: update Ace on wowi! |
| 16:23.34 | TheKarn | Hjalte, why do that? use my branch :) |
| 16:23.53 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23236 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (Bars/Stuns.lua Core.lua Locals/enUS.lua RuleSet.lua): FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - Re-added DR and a pvp/pve option (counts you not the person with stun!) |
| 16:23.56 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yes, thats true.. I have karns modified files :) |
| 16:23.58 | TheKarn | theres a text box that you type the itemid in and it brings up a list of all the PT sets it belongs to |
| 16:24.11 | TheKarn | you have to mouseover the editbox though ;) |
| 16:24.28 | Hjalte | Hehe, well TheKarn, right now i can't acces the menu for baggins because i hid the fubar menu to find a bug.. Hmm, and i found it alright. |
| 16:24.38 | TheKarn | haha |
| 16:24.42 | TheKarn | what bug in baggins? |
| 16:24.54 | Nomad_Wanderer | My problem was not related to PT tho.. it was a pebkac error. |
| 16:25.17 | evl | Anyway to make Sanity do a forced inventory refresh?= |
| 16:25.34 | TheKarn | purge all data |
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| 16:25.55 | naenee | dead, wave 65 |
| 16:26.02 | TheKarn | i've made 72 |
| 16:26.05 | TheKarn | thats my best |
| 16:26.08 | Hjalte | TheKarn: There is no way to get the fubar plugin back if you hid it once - and I'm not going to delete all my data i spend a lot of time making custom bags :) |
| 16:26.19 | TheKarn | Hjalte, there is |
| 16:26.23 | TheKarn | lemme get the command for you ;) |
| 16:26.30 | Hjalte | TheKarn, please ;) |
| 16:26.35 | Tornhoof | ./foo hide |
| 16:27.00 | Tornhoof | foo is the plug you hid |
| 16:27.16 | Nomad_Wanderer | I blame tekkub |
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| 16:28.20 | Machine_ | does anyone know if Grid has a 'test mode' where you get to see how the layout would look with a full raid? i can't find anything |
| 16:28.45 | Hjalte | Machine_: It doesnt :-\ |
| 16:28.57 | axxo | join AV |
| 16:29.03 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yeah.. you have to use this slash command to enable it. /lfg Does anyone want to join my test raid? /invite X |
| 16:29.51 | dafire | rabbit ? |
| 16:29.59 | naenee | I'll have to try it again :) |
| 16:30.18 | dafire | vhaarr ? ;) |
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| 16:31.53 | Gagorian | ravagernl: I haven't planned to. DeuceCommander works well imo. |
| 16:32.07 | TheKarn | ok Hjalte, /script Baggins:Show() |
| 16:32.21 | TheKarn | it may put it back on the minimap but theres an otion to detach from there |
| 16:33.16 | Hjalte | Yes, it attached it to the minimap :) |
| 16:33.18 | Hjalte | Thanks |
| 16:33.20 | TheKarn | np |
| 16:35.12 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'd love to be able to share my baggins config :) |
| 16:36.17 | evl | Uhm, Sanity shows "53" on the icon count for an item but 83 in the tooltip, what gives? |
| 16:36.18 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23237 10FuBar_LoadLODFu/ (FuBar_LoadLODFu.toc LoadLOD.lua): FuBar_LoadLODFu: Added ace DB for saving |
| 16:37.10 | neenee | Machine_: join AV :) |
| 16:39.38 | Nomad_Wanderer | Strange bug with Baggins, I have to log out to see bank updates... I can just reopen my bags to see rule changes, but i have to login/out to see rule changes in banks. |
| 16:39.59 | Ominous | does clearfont take upalot of system resources? |
| 16:40.07 | Kirkburn | No |
| 16:40.09 | neenee | It does not |
| 16:40.14 | neenee | It just changes the font used |
| 16:40.18 | Saroz | vhaarr!!!!! |
| 16:40.20 | Saroz | YOUR BACK |
| 16:40.25 | Saroz | you're* |
| 16:40.55 | Kirkburn | He should've listened |
| 16:41.12 | Kirkburn | Aww, cutsey wabbit |
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| 16:41.23 | TheKarn | Nomad_Wanderer, Baggins used to update changes to rules/bags when rules were changed |
| 16:41.29 | ravagernl | Saroz I have this bug with sraidframes |
| 16:41.32 | TheKarn | but now you have to reopen the bags |
| 16:41.34 | Saroz | oh? |
| 16:41.35 | TheKarn | and the banks are fucked |
| 16:41.42 | Nomad_Wanderer | It doesn't work with my bank tho... |
| 16:41.45 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yeah |
| 16:41.53 | ravagernl | when I change the layout , sometimes the frames wander offscreen |
| 16:42.10 | ravagernl | can you make it clamp to screen? |
| 16:42.18 | Saroz | no, tried |
| 16:42.20 | Saroz | not good for business |
| 16:42.28 | Saroz | when moving all at the same time |
| 16:42.33 | Saroz | clamp is bad |
| 16:42.43 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r23238 10RaidAgent/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:42.44 | CIA-17 | RaidAgent: |
| 16:42.44 | CIA-17 | - Should now work in Raid (o'rly) plus Battleground, Party and Guild if not in a party :) |
| 16:43.00 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r23239 10RaidInfo/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:43.00 | CIA-17 | RaidInfo: |
| 16:43.00 | CIA-17 | - Should now work in Raid (o'rly) plus Battleground, Party :) |
| 16:43.09 | neenee | What is RaidAgent? |
| 16:43.16 | TheKarn | ~raidagent |
| 16:43.35 | TheKarn | purl, you fail at life. |
| 16:44.29 | neenee | :| |
| 16:45.03 | nienee | wahey |
| 16:49.24 | Kirkburn | Also updated: http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Upload |
| 16:49.35 | Kirkburn | um |
| 16:49.36 | Kirkburn | Wrong channel :P |
| 16:50.29 | Ominous | how do you do the * emote things |
| 16:50.58 | |Kev| | /me doesn't know |
| 16:50.59 | Ominous | sigh |
| 16:51.30 | Ominous | thanks :) |
| 16:51.35 | |Kev| | np |
| 16:51.43 | |Kev| | now you must use this power only for good |
| 16:51.48 | Nimbal | ~seen nargiddley |
| 16:52.09 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 5h 46m 43s ago, saying: 'but i'm always terrible at getting to sleep on time'. |
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| 16:55.44 | evl | Anyway to Show() / Hide() frame(s) during combat? |
| 16:55.49 | Saroz | no |
| 16:55.57 | Saroz | WTB |
| 16:56.08 | evl | I have a macro that toggles the blizzard bars but :P |
| 16:56.11 | evl | they don't work in combat |
| 16:57.46 | Thrae | evl: Bartender3 switches pages for me in or out of combat. |
| 16:58.22 | |Kev| | Thrae: between pages, but not show/hiding frames, I guess |
| 16:59.16 | |Kev| | I rather want a keybind to toggle show/hide the bartender frames I normally have hidden |
| 16:59.34 | |Kev| | but I've been led to believe it's not possible/likely, because it can't be done in combat |
| 16:59.57 | |Kev| | ooh, time to head home |
| 17:00.16 | Grine | Thrae, any plans for fixxing TinyTip to use UnitPVPName()? |
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| 17:01.54 | Thrae | Grine: Yes, along with others. |
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| 17:02.02 | Grine | <3 |
| 17:02.49 | Thrae | Before I do that, TinyTip will have to be re-written due to signifigant changes in 2.0 and the next live patch (TBC). So I'm waiting for TBC. |
| 17:02.51 | Gorlum | Hello. |
| 17:03.24 | Ominous | what are the significant changes in TBC? |
| 17:03.38 | Gorlum | Traditional question. Can anyone help me with problem logging to dev SVN? SVN didn't accept login/password that I received from Tekkub in email. |
| 17:04.12 | Thrae | Ominous: More On<Event> for Tooltips, additional methods. |
| 17:04.14 | Grine | Thrae, mind adding something else for me in that release? So I don't have to modify the lua every time it's updated :P |
| 17:04.20 | Fisker- | /cast [target=focus] Flash Heal <-Would it cast on focus or evaulate if the target is the focus? |
| 17:04.32 | Ominous | cast on focus |
| 17:05.06 | Thrae | Fisker-: If you want to cast on the target, you can do target=target, which will prevent auto self-cast. |
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| 17:05.20 | Thrae | As silly as target=target sounds ;) |
| 17:05.29 | Fisker- | Yeah but i thought the [x] were mainly conditions |
| 17:05.46 | Thrae | Grine: What? |
| 17:05.53 | Codayus | mainly, perhaps. But the [target=] syntax assigns a target. |
| 17:06.00 | Fisker- | ok |
| 17:06.16 | Fisker- | Because i'm trying to help some guys making focus macros :P |
| 17:06.20 | Codayus | To do what? |
| 17:06.22 | Fisker- | Someone told me you could do [target=focus] |
| 17:06.32 | Adirelle|afk | got a nice focus macro, wait a minute |
| 17:06.37 | Fisker- | nothing really, just a "This is how you use the shit" :P |
| 17:06.50 | Thrae | Fisker-: Well, if you have /cast [target=focus] Flash Heal; [target=none] Prayer of Healing; then it will cast Prayer of Healing if you don't have a focus. |
| 17:07.03 | Grine | Thrae, option to color guildname if the player is in friends list instead of the name, in a diff color than if the player is in your guild |
| 17:07.05 | Machine_ | does anyone else have a problem with cycircled and bt3 where cycircled with serenity skin doesn't mask the spell/ability/item's texture correctly? |
| 17:07.22 | Thrae | s/[target=none]// |
| 17:07.27 | Codayus | Macro1: "/focus /cast Banish" |
| 17:07.38 | Codayus | Macro2: "/cast [target=focus] Banish" |
| 17:08.08 | ravagernl | my favorite macro in 2.0 is /targetraid /cast dispelmagic |
| 17:08.24 | Fisker- | heh |
| 17:08.29 | Adirelle|afk | Fisker: look at http://ace.pastey.net/4448 |
| 17:08.40 | Codayus | There's also explicit conditionals for whether focus exists, I think. |
| 17:08.42 | Thrae | Grine: Add that to the Wowinterface features request, because that's a weird enough request I'll probably forget. |
| 17:08.47 | Adirelle|afk | it is for easily managing focus |
| 17:08.48 | Fisker- | I like /cast [target=mouseover] Dispel magic |
| 17:08.55 | Grine | will do Thrae |
| 17:09.08 | Mikma | score, 3 |
| 17:09.48 | Codayus | Ah, yes. "[target=focus, noexists]" That will trigger only if you don't have a focus. |
| 17:09.52 | Thrae | Background colouring for friends I understand, but guildname colouring? Well I guess if you run out of things to colour while reminaning minimalistic... |
| 17:10.05 | Adirelle|afk | bind the macro to a key (say K), then : shift+K force defining focus, K without alive focus => set focus for current target, K with an alive focus => retarget focus |
| 17:10.24 | Grine | Thrae, yeah I like the background black, namereaction colored |
| 17:10.33 | Codayus | Or yeah, what Adirelle|afk said. |
| 17:10.37 | Codayus | Focus is cool. :-) |
| 17:10.50 | Mikma | lol i managed to bork Trinity Bars |
| 17:10.52 | Mikma | i'm damn good |
| 17:10.54 | Grine | and guildname is about socialstuff anyhow so |
| 17:10.54 | Adirelle|afk | er... forgot something |
| 17:11.02 | Adirelle|work | that's better |
| 17:12.37 | Grine | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:12.50 | Grine | I dont' want 2k complations when searching for TinyTip |
| 17:13.00 | Codayus | Something like: "/clearfocus [target=focus,dead] /clearfocus [target=focus,noexists] /focus [target=focus,noexsits] /cast [target=focus] Polymorph /p Please do not molest the sheep." |
| 17:13.02 | Adirelle|work | it shouldn't be on a popup menu at first |
| 17:13.05 | Codayus | (Ninjaed from wowwiki) |
| 17:13.13 | Thrae | Grine: "Advanced Search" |
| 17:13.54 | Grine | Thrae, bah too complicated, what I really want is a search that ony returns what I'm looking for, no matter what it is :P |
| 17:14.11 | Adirelle|work | codayus : focus is great for any "keep that debuff up" task |
| 17:14.14 | Codayus | Srsly. |
| 17:14.26 | kenlyric|work | or "keep that debuff off" |
| 17:14.30 | jkw | ~seen ag` |
| 17:14.32 | purl | ag` <n=ag`@0x535bbf63.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17h 51m 9s ago, saying: 'so'. |
| 17:14.36 | Adirelle|work | yes; too... :D |
| 17:14.41 | Saroz | ~seen vhaarr |
| 17:14.43 | purl | vhaarr is currently on #wowace (3h 22m 4s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 3h 6m 21s, last said: 'All forums should be permanently deleted and NNTP should be pushed down childrens throat.'. |
| 17:14.43 | kenlyric|work | or "keep alive whoever that big bad monster is hitting" |
| 17:14.54 | Adirelle|work | lol |
| 17:14.56 | kenlyric|work | is there a targetoffocus? |
| 17:15.04 | Codayus | Or "/cast [target=focustarget] Flash Heal" |
| 17:15.06 | beerke | is there a Babble Lib for UI Error messages ? |
| 17:15.32 | Adirelle|work | err... I think most of them are in globalstrings, aren't they ? |
| 17:15.34 | kenlyric|work | nice. I can live with that one. |
| 17:15.37 | Codayus | kenlyric|work: Focus is a unitid like any other, I believe. focustarget, focustargettargetpet, whatever all work. I think. |
| 17:15.52 | groll | who makes cartographer stats? got bug :D |
| 17:15.53 | Codayus | (I haven't tested any except focustarget.) |
| 17:15.54 | groll | Error: attempt to index field 'Mine' (a nil value)AddOn: Cartographer_StatsFile: Cartographer_Stats.luaLine: 287Count: 6 |
| 17:16.01 | Grine | Thrae, posted to WoWI, now get to work! j/k |
| 17:19.04 | Saroz | fucking SVN is so unstable |
| 17:19.16 | kenlyric|work | Codayus: so why isn't there a unit frame for focustarget or pettarget? |
| 17:19.40 | Codayus | ? |
| 17:20.10 | ravagernl | people, anyone that can help me? I made this post on forums for details: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3162.0 |
| 17:20.14 | Codayus | same reason there isn't for targettargettargettarget? AFAIK you could make one, if you wanted. |
| 17:20.31 | Codayus | (The same way afug has a ToToT frame, whereas the Bliz UI doesn't.) |
| 17:20.50 | Codayus | <shrug> |
| 17:21.22 | kenlyric|work | ah. |
| 17:21.33 | Codayus | er, agUF even |
| 17:21.35 | kenlyric|work | target of pet would just be so hot. |
| 17:24.10 | Adirelle|work | kenlyric : i'm using an autoshot macro with in front of it : "/target [harm] target; [help] targettarget; [target=pettarget,harm,combat] pettarget" |
| 17:24.20 | vid` | whast ToToT for? |
| 17:24.22 | vid` | lol |
| 17:24.24 | vid` | i never got that |
| 17:24.32 | vid` | i guess there are some uses |
| 17:24.34 | ravagernl | target of targets target |
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| 17:24.45 | vid` | thats like having ToToToToToToT |
| 17:24.46 | vid` | lol |
| 17:24.48 | vid` | how deep you wanna go |
| 17:25.22 | kenlyric|work | Well, as ahealer, my target is usually a player. his target is the boss. And I also want to see who the boss is hitting. So, ToToT |
| 17:25.36 | vid` | ah makes sense |
| 17:25.42 | naenee | Isn't that what Banzai is for, to see who has aggro? |
| 17:25.54 | ravagernl | saroz, can you take a little look on my issue with scaling, everyone is isgnoring me :( |
| 17:26.05 | Saroz | sup? |
| 17:26.06 | Adirelle|work | naenee : not really, banzai tell you when YOU have aggro |
| 17:26.19 | Thrae | naenee: BanzaiAlert is only for yourself, but the lib can do it for all units in raid and party. |
| 17:26.21 | ravagernl | Saroz: I posted this in dev corner http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3162.0 |
| 17:26.36 | Saroz | link is broken in post |
| 17:26.38 | Thrae | BanzaiAlert is probably just a test for BanzaiLib, which is more powerful then its test addon |
| 17:26.43 | snurre- | ToF... givf |
| 17:26.45 | naenee | Ah. |
| 17:26.48 | snurre- | and ToToF |
| 17:27.00 | Saroz | not really, BanzaiAlert tells you when you have aggro, using BanzaiLib |
| 17:27.11 | Saroz | BanzaiLib tells you when anyone in your raid/party has aggro |
| 17:27.16 | ravagernl | saroz:updated post |
| 17:27.22 | kenlyric|work | well, I don't care to know they have aggro, simply have a visual that their health is dropping. Or heck, hover over the ToToT frame and just keep clicking it as I heal. |
| 17:27.28 | Thrae | Saroz: BanzaiLib also includes yourself too ;) |
| 17:27.36 | Saroz | ya |
| 17:28.08 | kenlyric|work | doing that on ebonroc is like the easy version of healing for that fight :) |
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| 17:28.40 | kenlyric|work | or I just hit "F" a lot :) |
| 17:28.53 | Fisker- | I called my druid pedobear |
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| 17:29.56 | snurre- | Fisker-: not a good idea |
| 17:30.03 | Eej | that's what you thikn |
| 17:30.10 | Fisker- | nope |
| 17:30.11 | snurre- | pedophilia = permaban |
| 17:30.19 | Fisker- | very bad idea |
| 17:30.31 | Fisker- | technically isn't pedophilia :P |
| 17:30.32 | snurre- | or a 3day suspension and final warning, if youre very lucky |
| 17:30.37 | yacoob | he just meant that he's travelling per pedes |
| 17:30.47 | yacoob | on foot, that is 8) |
| 17:30.59 | Saroz | ravagernl, use GetEffectiveScale() |
| 17:31.04 | Fisker- | As far as i remember it's actually because of some japanese Engrish it's called Pedobear :P |
| 17:31.12 | Fisker- | Infact pedobear is in a japanese kid show :D |
| 17:31.27 | kenlyric|work | the reason you name it something has very little to do with their reaction to it. |
| 17:31.31 | ravagernl | saroz, then what would be the formula? |
| 17:31.55 | yacoob | shoot first, then ask questions? |
| 17:31.58 | kenlyric|work | all it takes is for them to consider it a reference to pedophilia, and they'll ban your account. |
| 17:33.03 | ravagernl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:33.34 | snurre- | having a name with "pedo" in it, is more than close enough |
| 17:34.20 | naenee | woo, 69 |
| 17:34.31 | ravagernl | saroz: self.frame:SetScale((UIParent:GetWidth()/1536) * UIParent:GetEffectiveScale()) or what else? |
| 17:35.12 | Worf | hmm... i'd really like to understand how this unit frame stuff works... what is a.. "reizable state header"? ( refering to pastamancer's post about unit frames with pet support ) |
| 17:35.32 | Fisker- | Don't worry snurre- |
| 17:35.38 | Fisker- | i'll explain it to them |
| 17:35.43 | Fisker- | "But it was for the lulz" |
| 17:35.50 | Fisker- | *Disconnected from server* |
| 17:37.23 | Nomad_Wanderer | I dont think you will even get to say anything |
| 17:37.26 | Nomad_Wanderer | just disco |
| 17:37.47 | Fisker- | Then i'd write an email to them |
| 17:37.58 | Nomad_Wanderer | good idea. I heard they read email |
| 17:40.26 | pastamancer | Worf: a state header is a kind of frame |
| 17:40.57 | Kaelten | svns are fixing |
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| 17:41.21 | nienee | morning Kaelten |
| 17:41.32 | Kaelten | g'mornin :) |
| 17:41.39 | TheKarn | sire |
| 17:41.43 | Tornhoof | those 2.02 patchnotes said something about state header reparenting and resizing, anyone got an idea what you could with that? |
| 17:41.45 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:42.28 | Thrae | Hey, when'd the forums come back up? |
| 17:42.28 | pastamancer | Tornhoof: some pretty neat stuff |
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| 17:42.48 | Tornhoof | give example ;) |
| 17:43.17 | Worf | pastamancer: that helps me ( the noob who just has a bit pre-2.0 coding experience ) absolute nothing... is there some description somewhere i could read? i didn't really find something useful yet... (wowwiki,...) |
| 17:43.33 | ravagernl | kaelten: Good evening (18:43 here) |
| 17:43.46 | Kaelten | ya its almost noon here |
| 17:43.49 | pastamancer | raid frames that change/resize based on any valid state change |
| 17:44.00 | pastamancer | Worf: wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 17:44.24 | Tornhoof | hmm mouse over a unitframes and it gets bigger?, something like that? |
| 17:44.48 | pastamancer | Tornhoof: I believe that's a valid state change |
| 17:45.02 | ravagernl | kaelten this should be easy for you, how can I set a frame to be max width of the UIParent but at the same time hold the good aspectratio of the frame? |
| 17:45.11 | Tornhoof | ok thanks |
| 17:45.20 | [dRaCo] | hey tornhoof, can I suggest a (or even two) little feature(s) for yata? |
| 17:45.28 | TheKarn | how do you mean ravagernl? |
| 17:45.39 | Tornhoof | sure |
| 17:45.41 | Tornhoof | shoot |
| 17:45.59 | [dRaCo] | the ability to scale the popup buttons |
| 17:46.08 | TheKarn | the width of UIParent is UIParent:GetWidth()*UIParent:GetRelativeScale() isnt it? |
| 17:46.12 | [dRaCo] | so they have the same size as the visible ones |
| 17:46.20 | ravagernl | I have this little code: |
| 17:46.22 | ravagernl | self.frame:RegisterEvent("DISPLAY_SIZE_CHANGED") |
| 17:46.23 | ravagernl | self.frame:RegisterEvent("CVAR_UPDATE") |
| 17:46.24 | Tornhoof | yes that's on the todo list |
| 17:46.25 | ravagernl | self.frame:SetScript("OnEvent", function() this:SetScale(UIParent:GetWidth()/1536) end) |
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| 17:46.28 | [dRaCo] | cool |
| 17:46.43 | [dRaCo] | and maybe support for other button styles |
| 17:46.44 | Tornhoof | currently, you can just remove all those -0.2 setscale() calls |
| 17:46.45 | ravagernl | the width of the frame is 1536 obviously |
| 17:46.59 | Tornhoof | i will add a slider for it soonish |
| 17:47.04 | [dRaCo] | oh, cool. guess I'm gonna try that |
| 17:47.24 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23240 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/ (Core.lua RuleSet.lua): FuBar_WarlockTimerFu: fixed translation direction error ln 30 |
| 17:47.49 | [dRaCo] | is there any hackish way to have dreamlayout buttons? |
| 17:47.57 | Tornhoof | don't think so |
| 17:48.01 | Tornhoof | never looked into that |
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| 17:48.39 | [dRaCo] | btw, thanks for creating a ace2 totem addon :) |
| 17:48.55 | Worf | pastamancer: reading http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2026144/FrameXML/SecureStateHeader.lua now ... |
| 17:49.07 | Nomad_Wanderer | When I talk to the banker, baggins opens up (good), but the stock bank frame also opens up (bad.). I think it's a mod conflict or something.. Any ideas on how to see what's doing what? |
| 17:49.07 | [dRaCo] | hard to live without something like that once you got used to it |
| 17:49.18 | pastamancer | Worf: it's pretty intimidating, start small |
| 17:49.49 | ravagernl | TheKarn: http://ace.pastey.net/4449 is my code, the frame is bugged when the ui scale is set at .64 |
| 17:49.59 | kenlyric|work | Nomad_Wanderer: unless I'm wrong, that's just how it behave for now. |
| 17:50.14 | Tornhoof | yah draco, i need to add some layouting code anyway, like popupmenu to left/right and similar |
| 17:50.18 | Nomad_Wanderer | oh.. wait that happens for others? I was told last night it was only me |
| 17:50.28 | kenlyric|work | oh, maybe that was fixed. |
| 17:50.34 | kenlyric|work | I know it used to open the default bank frame. |
| 17:50.37 | kenlyric|work | Sanity still does. |
| 17:50.45 | Nomad_Wanderer | I used wau latest, and it does that |
| 17:50.53 | Thrae | Are TargetUnit() and TargetUnitByName() now blocked? |
| 17:51.31 | Thrae | Ah, so it is. |
| 17:51.37 | Nomad_Wanderer | Does mendeleev show multiple PT sets when there are multiple PT sets? |
| 17:52.10 | [dRaCo] | the hard to live without was about a totem addon in general, tornhoof. the layout stuff is just eyecandy ;) |
| 17:52.24 | [dRaCo] | btw, can't find setscale() anywhere in the code o0 |
| 17:52.40 | Saroz | can you change groupFilter in combat? |
| 17:53.06 | |Kev| | I guess I'll ask this every so often, so I'm sorry if it gets annoying: any WowAceUpdater devs around? |
| 17:53.14 | pastamancer | Saroz: no attribute changes in combat |
| 17:53.20 | Saroz | -.- |
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| 17:54.39 | Tornhoof | draco, line 53 in totembar.lua b.Frame:SetScale(0.8); changing that to 1.0 should do the trick |
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| 17:56.18 | Amadeo | What's Yata look like? |
| 17:56.29 | Saroz | pastamancer, gonna make that heal lib? :p |
| 17:56.57 | Tornhoof | 4 buttons for each element and the remaining totems on mouseover |
| 17:57.34 | Amadeo | I see |
| 17:57.48 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23241 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_WarlockTimerFu:oops fixed now |
| 17:58.02 | Amadeo | you can bind keys to them? |
| 17:58.29 | Worf | pastamancer: hard to start small when there is no "small" anymore :) I think i start to understand ... |
| 17:58.34 | pastamancer | Saroz: I thought you were gonna write it |
| 17:59.09 | Saroz | pastamancer, I don't know where to start - my plan is to copy the base of Banzai :p |
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| 17:59.55 | pastamancer | Saroz: oh. no, it should be small, simple, and not ace-specific so that other raid frames can use it too |
| 18:00.36 | CIA-17 | 03kameril * r23242 10BA3_SpellAbilities/BA3_SpellAbilities.toc: BA3_SpellAbilities: -TOC description update |
| 18:00.37 | Saroz | -.- |
| 18:01.00 | kovi | http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b189/econoble/BAREHED.jpg |
| 18:01.02 | pastamancer | and it only needs to send addon messages, let individual addons parse the receiving :) |
| 18:01.04 | Saroz | embeds ftw |
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| 18:01.33 | ravagernl | lmao kovi |
| 18:01.37 | [dRaCo] | thanks :D |
| 18:01.55 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23243 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_WarlockTimerFu:really fixed now |
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| 18:04.53 | CIA-17 | 03schelli 07Schelli * r23244 10IceHUD/modules/CastBar.lua: icehud : updated CastBar.lua and added autocasting again |
| 18:05.40 | Mikma | omg omg |
| 18:05.42 | CIA-17 | 03schelli 07Schelli * r23245 10IceHUD_Hunter/ (8 files in 2 dirs): IceHUD_Hunter : big update to make all modules work under 2.0 |
| 18:05.43 | Mikma | illegal updatez |
| 18:05.54 | Mikma | Iceroth is going to kill him! |
| 18:06.22 | kergoth | oh noes, teh branch |
| 18:08.54 | Hock | this might be a known issue but with Prat, if i start a whisper to someone and have some text but then press tab again to change the recipient, it sometimes locks up WoW and i either have to end task or completely reboot the pc. |
| 18:12.05 | [dRaCo] | uh. bugs! tornhoof, I get an error in options.lua:267 |
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| 18:12.36 | [dRaCo] | "attempt to access local index 'cat' (a nil value)" |
| 18:12.48 | [dRaCo] | everytime I move the mouse over the minimapbutton |
| 18:12.55 | [dRaCo] | the menu works fine, though |
| 18:13.15 | Tornhoof | hmm lemme see |
| 18:13.35 | Tornhoof | did you have some sets? |
| 18:13.41 | Tornhoof | totemsets i mean |
| 18:14.29 | [dRaCo] | no |
| 18:14.37 | [dRaCo] | that is, I just created one |
| 18:14.46 | [dRaCo] | but not when the error occured |
| 18:14.55 | groll | oh Tornhoof how do i make a totemset? i can make one but i sure dont get any set totems and cant seem to change them :P |
| 18:15.25 | Tornhoof | ah ok, happens if you have no totemset, bug there, will be fixed |
| 18:15.36 | [dRaCo] | ok |
| 18:15.43 | [dRaCo] | thanks :) |
| 18:16.01 | Tornhoof | totemsets->add, enter name, swap the buttons around below, press enter on that dialog ;) |
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| 18:16.34 | groll | ah |
| 18:16.38 | Tornhoof | fixed in next build |
| 18:16.39 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r23246 10Manufac/Manufac-deDE.lua: |
| 18:16.39 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
| 18:16.39 | CIA-17 | - updated deDE localization |
| 18:16.49 | sbu | errr ck |
| 18:16.54 | sbu | mhpf |
| 18:16.59 | groll | ok thanks.. btw plz add a totemset totemstomper key if not already in :D |
| 18:17.05 | groll | nwo movie time so see ya |
| 18:17.43 | [dRaCo] | uh, totemstompers :/ |
| 18:17.46 | Kaelten | :P |
| 18:18.11 | sbu | something is wrong with cartographer UBRS map :p |
| 18:18.18 | sbu | it shows some strange stuff + lbrs (?) map |
| 18:18.58 | Tornhoof | you can't stomp more than one totem anymore |
| 18:21.43 | [dRaCo] | yeah... guess he wants something like a button he presses 4 times and all totems will be casted |
| 18:21.52 | sbu | err Mikma |
| 18:22.01 | sbu | what was the name of the shaman/totem thing again? |
| 18:22.04 | Worf | sounds like /castsequence ? |
| 18:22.11 | Tornhoof | yeh castsequence ;) |
| 18:22.30 | Mikma | sbu: what? |
| 18:22.32 | [dRaCo] | sucks anyway ;) |
| 18:22.57 | Worf | do you healers also have now a makro now where you used to have a normal spell before? :^) |
| 18:24.04 | Ominous | what does the -1 mean in for i = 20, 1, -1 do? |
| 18:24.18 | pastamancer | increment by -1 |
| 18:24.23 | Worf | it's a countdown therefor |
| 18:24.33 | TheKarn | ominous, for i starting at 20 until it reaches 1 moving by -1 |
| 18:24.43 | Ominous | oki ty |
| 18:25.04 | sbu | Mikma: uhm that casting thing (looks like SacredBuff, some circle with totem-buttons :o) |
| 18:25.20 | pastamancer | Saroz: do you have a clever name for the heal library? I'm going with "healcomm" currently. |
| 18:25.27 | Mikma | sbu: http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5723/totemus/ |
| 18:25.41 | sbu | thanks :) |
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| 18:29.06 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:29.09 | Worf | pastamancer: what do you want to build? some "you heal this guy, i heal that guy"-com lib or so? :) |
| 18:29.31 | Kirkburn | Hey ckknight |
| 18:30.14 | Saroz | pastamancer, Halo |
| 18:30.23 | Saroz | HaloLib! |
| 18:30.35 | dafire | whats the difference between { ["abc"] = 1 } and { "abc" = 1 } ? |
| 18:30.39 | pastamancer | Worf: no, sending the spell name, rank, and target for heals being cast |
| 18:30.50 | Saroz | and duration |
| 18:30.51 | pastamancer | HaloHalo, how are you gentlemen! |
| 18:30.51 | Industrial | dafire: second is wrong |
| 18:31.06 | Industrial | {['a']=1} or {a=1} |
| 18:31.08 | Saroz | pastamancer, arent you afraid of too much data? |
| 18:31.22 | Nomad_Wanderer | like forecast? |
| 18:31.39 | dafire | but { abc = 1 } works ? |
| 18:31.39 | pastamancer | kinda, except as a library |
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| 18:31.44 | Industrial | dafire: yes |
| 18:31.49 | dafire | cool :9 |
| 18:31.54 | Industrial | dafire: unless its a number eg {1=1} |
| 18:31.58 | pastamancer | Saroz: nah, it'll be one byte for the spell name, one byte for the rank, and then the target name |
| 18:32.04 | dafire | thanks .9 |
| 18:32.14 | dafire | pastamancer: gimme roster-2.2 .) |
| 18:32.17 | Industrial | you need to use {["1"]=1} for that |
| 18:32.32 | Saroz | pastamancer, how would you keep track of interupts and castingtime |
| 18:32.37 | pastamancer | dafire: give use cases, I'm not writing it until it's totally solid |
| 18:33.03 | pastamancer | Saroz: that's the fun part, I guess I'll have to add delay/interrupt events |
| 18:33.19 | Saroz | It has a few drawbacks, not making it an imbed |
| 18:33.21 | Saroz | embed |
| 18:33.32 | Industrial | pet schmet wait for 2.0.3 |
| 18:33.35 | Saroz | you could save a lot of data transfers |
| 18:34.02 | Worf | ok, i'll wait... but get ready for lot's of whining and bugging then! :) |
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| 18:34.18 | Industrial | ;) |
| 18:34.33 | pastamancer | Industrial: go post about your forum bugs |
| 18:35.01 | dafire | pastamancer: hmm.. i have no special case yet .. just need to track members going online/offline and leaving/joining the raid yet. |
| 18:35.23 | pastamancer | dafire: oh, that's easy |
| 18:35.46 | pastamancer | Roster-2.1 can do that just fine |
| 18:37.35 | dafire | yes .. but it's triggering so many unnecessary events but guess I'll use it for now. |
| 18:37.58 | CIA-17 | 03nimbal 07Nimbal * r23247 10Buffalo/Buffalo/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:37.59 | CIA-17 | Buffalo (Branch): |
| 18:37.59 | CIA-17 | - Added first dewdrop lines |
| 18:37.59 | CIA-17 | - Re-repaired anchoring code |
| 18:37.59 | CIA-17 | - Cleaned up xml |
| 18:37.59 | pastamancer | the unit changed event should be sending offline/oldoffline |
| 18:38.13 | pastamancer | Nimbal: using SEEA now? |
| 18:38.14 | Industrial | pastamancer: i cant reply |
| 18:38.16 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3609.0 |
| 18:38.30 | Industrial | pastamancer: basically; ALL forums. (firefox) |
| 18:38.51 | dafire | yes .. the offline to online event now is a bit strange.. all old->new values are the same |
| 18:38.53 | pastamancer | can't reply? |
| 18:39.44 | Nimbal | pastamancer: If you mean SpecialEvents-Aura (or what's the second E for?), yes. Or, rather, I used it all the time, but now it works reliably on a ReloadUI() :-) |
| 18:39.48 | pastamancer | Industrial: oh, the mark as read button for each fourm? |
| 18:40.01 | pastamancer | Nimbal: SpecialEventsEmbed |
| 18:40.06 | pastamancer | Nimbal: :) |
| 18:40.33 | Industrial | pastamancer: yes |
| 18:40.38 | Nimbal | Ah! |
| 18:40.48 | Industrial | pastamancer: http://xs511.xs.to/xs511/07013/untitledasdfasdf.png |
| 18:40.54 | pastamancer | Industrial: ok, I'll fix that sometime this week |
| 18:41.02 | Industrial | pastamancer: but i need to go offline now, updating firewall |
| 18:41.08 | Industrial | <away> |
| 18:41.56 | pastamancer | Industrial: oh, haha, I see |
| 18:42.13 | pastamancer | I wonder why the thread is locked |
| 18:42.49 | pastamancer | Kaelten: why is my forum bugs thread locked? |
| 18:44.54 | FtH|eagle | pastamancer: if you're interested, for my new addon I created some checks to see if I'm playing solo or in a party/raid. Maybe it's something you want to use for roster 2.2. It works in every case I tested it so far. |
| 18:45.02 | [dRaCo] | tornhoof: one more bug ./ |
| 18:45.08 | Tornhoof | shoot |
| 18:45.21 | [dRaCo] | using one set works fine |
| 18:45.31 | [dRaCo] | but if I add more than one, they all are the same |
| 18:45.42 | [dRaCo] | as the one I added last |
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| 18:45.46 | CrisCrOss | ehy hey |
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| 18:45.54 | Tornhoof | if you have a set loaded |
| 18:45.57 | Tornhoof | and add a new one |
| 18:45.58 | CrisCrOss | ew chatzilla |
| 18:46.02 | Tornhoof | it will use that set as reference |
| 18:46.12 | Tornhoof | if you want to add a completely new set, unload the old set |
| 18:46.14 | pastamancer | FtH|eagle: I've got code to detect solo/party/raid/bg transitions in Grid/GridCore.lua |
| 18:46.36 | CrisCrOss | is nev here? |
| 18:47.01 | FtH|eagle | If it's the latest code in grid, it's not working all the time. Sometimes it takes many minutes until I can see Grid in a bg |
| 18:47.06 | ckknight | how's everyone doing today? |
| 18:47.09 | [dRaCo] | but I switched some totems |
| 18:47.11 | CrisCrOss | fine kk n u |
| 18:47.14 | CrisCrOss | ck* |
| 18:47.24 | sbu | ckknight!!! |
| 18:47.25 | sbu | :) |
| 18:47.25 | pastamancer | FtH|eagle: when did you last update? |
| 18:47.28 | ckknight | I'm okay enough to use full words |
| 18:47.31 | sbu | there is something wrong with UBRS map :p |
| 18:47.33 | FtH|eagle | everyday |
| 18:47.45 | ckknight | sbu: something wrong with your mom's map, bam! |
| 18:47.49 | sbu | uhm |
| 18:47.49 | FtH|eagle | I didn't test it today, did you change something recently? |
| 18:48.09 | sbu | wait, gonna check that... |
| 18:48.13 | pastamancer | FtH|eagle: yesterday |
| 18:48.16 | CrisCrOss | ckk i still havent been able to convert to ur Cartogropher |
| 18:48.21 | sbu | ckknight: no, she got GPS :/ |
| 18:48.30 | Tornhoof | draco you used a different name? |
| 18:48.50 | ravagernl | anyone wanna help me on an issue with ui scaling |
| 18:48.51 | sbu | ckknight: it shows blackrock + LBRS map |
| 18:49.15 | ckknight | hrm |
| 18:49.45 | FtH|eagle | alright, will test it again |
| 18:50.21 | CrisCrOss | anyone using BarTender? |
| 18:50.25 | [dRaCo] | yes, of course |
| 18:50.31 | [dRaCo] | CrisCrOss: yes |
| 18:50.45 | CrisCrOss | im having trouble getting hotkeys to display on the actionbar |
| 18:51.06 | CrisCrOss | Nev changed the hotkey method but even when i re-assign them it doesn't appear on the bar |
| 18:51.15 | FtH|eagle | pastamancer: same problem |
| 18:51.17 | [dRaCo] | there's a checkbox for each bar |
| 18:51.26 | [dRaCo] | wether to display the keys or not |
| 18:51.27 | ckknight | ~seen hyperChipmunk |
| 18:51.49 | purl | hyperchipmunk <n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #hosernet, 4d 15h 14m 26s ago, saying: 'afk'. |
| 18:51.49 | Mygore | a quick question, is it possible to combine a cast sequence with form dependent macro? |
| 18:51.51 | pastamancer | FtH|eagle: then open a ticked in trac, include your settings and steps to reliably reproduce the bug |
| 18:51.54 | ckknight | yes, the condition is on the first part of the sequence |
| 18:52.10 | Mygore | thank you |
| 18:52.14 | Tornhoof | hmm yes draco you're right, that's a new one, must have happened during some other change |
| 18:53.13 | FtH|eagle | pastamancer: will do, and if you're interested in my way of detecting, let me know |
| 18:53.32 | Saroz | I am |
| 18:53.32 | Saroz | send |
| 18:53.59 | pastamancer | FtH|eagle: feel free to add that too |
| 18:54.01 | Hock | opinions: is blessed resilience worth a shit? |
| 18:54.19 | Saroz | no |
| 18:54.40 | CrisCrOss | i guess i should uncheck n recheck it |
| 18:55.01 | Eej | blessed resilience is amazing |
| 18:56.24 | Hock | more or less, it's 5 crits every 12 seconds. |
| 18:56.43 | Hock | sorry, 3 |
| 18:56.43 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r23248 10BugSack/BugSack-deDE.lua: BugSack:- fixed misspelled deDE locale |
| 18:56.50 | Hock | 3 crits every 12 seconds |
| 18:57.06 | Hock | ASSUMING the attacker has a 100% crit chance |
| 18:57.12 | andremar | does anyone know of a dot-tick timer of some sort? |
| 18:57.19 | Eej | uhh |
| 18:57.20 | Hock | dot tick timer? |
| 18:57.24 | Eej | if that's the way you want to look at it... |
| 18:57.28 | Hock | as in like telling you when to recast dots? |
| 18:57.31 | andremar | no |
| 18:57.37 | andremar | when the next tick will hit me for dmg |
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| 18:57.44 | andremar | of a poison or dot or curse or whatever |
| 18:57.55 | Eej | if you have a Rogue on you, it's going to proc a lot |
| 18:58.01 | Eej | or a Hunter pet |
| 18:58.02 | Dhraga | Evening folks |
| 18:58.07 | Hock | eej: yeah |
| 18:58.28 | Eej | it makes your secondary healer's job to keep you alive a ton easier |
| 18:58.36 | Hock | couple that with healing focus and it vastly improves your survivability |
| 18:58.55 | Health | Where do you buy NE mounts these days? As a NE :p |
| 18:59.28 | Eej | when the assist train rears its head towards you, would you prefer to have a chance at preventing 2 crits, or no crits? |
| 18:59.38 | Eej | or hell, just 1 crit |
| 19:00.11 | Tornhoof | ah ok found the bug draco, was some optimization i did which didn't work out |
| 19:00.12 | neenee | Health: Darnassus |
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| 19:00.25 | Health | Never been NE before and I just hit 40 :) |
| 19:00.32 | neenee | :) |
| 19:00.35 | Health | Thanks for the info |
| 19:00.40 | kenlyric|work | oh, LOL, I thought we were talking about Blessed Recovery ;) |
| 19:00.42 | neenee | Pleasure. |
| 19:01.23 | kenlyric|work | I was wondering just how crazy you all were :) |
| 19:01.36 | Tornhoof | is there any easy way to clone an existing table in lua? |
| 19:02.24 | ravagernl | People, how do you get a random field from a table? |
| 19:02.27 | JoshBork1 | function cloneTbl(tbl1) local tbl = {}; for k,v in pairs(tbl1) do if (type(v) == "table") then tbl[k] = cloneTbl(v) else tbl[k] = v end end |
| 19:02.29 | JoshBork1 | i think so |
| 19:02.34 | CrisCrOss | DrAco: i checked the hotkey thing |
| 19:02.36 | CrisCrOss | still no luck |
| 19:02.38 | kenlyric|work | Eej: well, the question is, what are you taking away from to get those three points? |
| 19:02.40 | JoshBork1 | ravagernl: tbl[<random field>] |
| 19:02.48 | Tornhoof | yeh joshm, that's what I'm doing |
| 19:02.50 | CrisCrOss | it used to work before |
| 19:03.00 | CrisCrOss | then the update where he changed the hotkey method disalbed it |
| 19:03.02 | Eej | nothing really |
| 19:03.10 | CrisCrOss | disabled* |
| 19:03.20 | ravagernl | yeah, like that JoshBork1 |
| 19:03.37 | [dRaCo] | CrisCrOss: weird, works for me |
| 19:03.46 | JoshBork1 | ravagernl: tables are hash tables, tbl[key] lets you get the information stored in the tbl at that key |
| 19:04.01 | JoshBork1 | ravagernl: if you're looking for a value rather than a key, then you have to iterate through the table |
| 19:04.20 | [dRaCo] | after binding the keys using the keybindings menu and enabling the checkbox everything works just fine |
| 19:04.25 | Tornhoof | draco committing the fix now |
| 19:04.36 | Eej | if you're going holy disc |
| 19:04.40 | Eej | you still get imp inner fire |
| 19:04.45 | ravagernl | joshbork1, ok, and how would I get a random value from 1 to 5? |
| 19:05.15 | CIA-17 | 03tornhoof * r23249 10Yata/ (5 files): |
| 19:05.15 | CIA-17 | Yata: |
| 19:05.15 | CIA-17 | - Fixed Totemsets, added Popup Button scaling |
| 19:05.15 | CIA-17 | - Other bugfixes |
| 19:05.41 | Tornhoof | math.random(1,5); |
| 19:05.54 | ravagernl | lol, thats easy 0o |
| 19:06.24 | Tornhoof | you can do math.random(5) too |
| 19:09.19 | [dRaCo] | he, I love IRC |
| 19:10.54 | jkw | urgh |
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| 19:18.26 | Dhraga | ck you there ? |
| 19:18.37 | ckknight | nope, gtg |
| 19:18.48 | Dhraga | k |
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| 19:20.03 | ravagernl | hihi, just made a vocal combopoints addon :P |
| 19:20.10 | ravagernl | local f = CreateFrame("Frame",nil,UIParent) |
| 19:20.12 | ravagernl | f:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_COMBO_POINTS") |
| 19:20.13 | ravagernl | f:SetScript("OnEvent", |
| 19:20.15 | ravagernl | function() |
| 19:20.17 | ravagernl | PlaySoundFile("Interface\\AddOns\VocalCombo\\"..GetComboPoints().."mp3") |
| 19:20.18 | ravagernl | end |
| 19:20.20 | ravagernl | ) |
| 19:20.39 | neenee | :) |
| 19:21.15 | ravagernl | Gonna test now, I hope I haven't made any typos |
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| 19:23.02 | MentalPower|Code | two things: |
| 19:23.03 | MentalPower|Code | 1) it could simply be local f = CreateFrame("Frame") |
| 19:23.05 | MentalPower|Code | 2) it should be GetComboPoints()..".mp3") --Note the dot before the mp3 |
| 19:23.33 | KarlThePagan | yea I think you need a frame type |
| 19:23.44 | KarlThePagan | but nothing else is required |
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| 19:27.02 | ravagernl | hmm, thats why the sound aint playing lol, missing a dot |
| 19:27.25 | Mikma | btw, score is 3-0 for me ;) |
| 19:27.41 | ravagernl | score on what mikma |
| 19:29.05 | kagaro | kerkogth: ping |
| 19:29.53 | ravagernl | hey the sounds still dont play :( |
| 19:30.09 | Industrial | back |
| 19:30.11 | Gnarfoz | anyone here admining a server with postfix? |
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| 19:30.41 | Mikma | ravagernl: 3 hordes down, 0 times killed |
| 19:30.52 | ravagernl | shame on you |
| 19:30.58 | ravagernl | horde ftw |
| 19:31.00 | Mikma | i'm doing my new hobby, pvp on in booty bay |
| 19:31.10 | ravagernl | lol |
| 19:31.18 | ravagernl | pvp in gadgetzan is much better |
| 19:31.41 | ravagernl | drop a grounding totem and wait till some dumb nightelf kills your totem |
| 19:31.50 | Prophy | is anyone still getting strange "2-3sec lockups" when ppl disconnect, leave raid, offline/online?? i'm not using ORA2/cique/ct.. |
| 19:32.04 | ravagernl | they get eaten by the guards then mikma ;) |
| 19:32.30 | Elkano | is the author of "King of the Jungle" on IRC? |
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| 19:32.40 | KarlThePagan | pvp in gadgetzan is awesome... |
| 19:32.46 | Funkeh` | heya |
| 19:32.56 | KarlThePagan | i sit on top of the inn and if I time my jumps right the guards knock me back out of the city and i live |
| 19:33.23 | Elkano | ~seen beerke |
| 19:33.45 | purl | beerke is currently on #wowi-lounge (6h 20m 41s) #wowace (6h 20m 41s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 2h 18m 40s, last said: 'is there a Babble Lib for UI Error messages ?'. |
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| 19:34.15 | Mikma | ravagernl: yeah, don't have totem so i have to be lure myself :I |
| 19:34.45 | beerke | Elkano, wassup |
| 19:34.47 | Elkano | beerke, any reason why you are using PT's "Food" categories and not the "Food Type" ones? |
| 19:34.54 | ravagernl | is there a reason why wow can't play .mp3 files? |
| 19:35.18 | kagaro | kergoth: I added a new icon to mining today (its not in use) please take a look at it for use as rich thorium |
| 19:35.18 | ravagernl | can't get my sounds to play |
| 19:35.52 | beerke | doesn't Food- Type include as well cookable food and such |
| 19:36.15 | Elkano | yes, they do |
| 19:36.29 | Elkano | ["Food Type - Meat"]= {"Food - Meat Raw", "Food - Meat", "Food - Meat Bonus", "Food - Meat Stats"} |
| 19:36.38 | beerke | Anyways i restricted first, cause i could not deselect |
| 19:37.04 | beerke | now i can deselect items, i can get broader food data |
| 19:37.49 | Elkano | well I just wondered why it said I had no food for my pet so I digged a bit ^^ and thus I wondered |
| 19:38.00 | beerke | lemme fix that |
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| 19:41.31 | ravagernl | >is there a reason why wow can't play .mp3 files? |
| 19:41.50 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r23250 10Fizzle/Inspect.lua: |
| 19:41.50 | CIA-17 | Fizzle: |
| 19:41.50 | CIA-17 | - Inspect: made inspect module local. |
| 19:42.09 | Aletarius | Hi, I have a problem with running Wowace. I'm trying to disable the profanity filter but ever since installing wowace, disabling it thru the blizzard options hasn't worked. |
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| 19:43.36 | Aletarius | Anyone know how to fix this? |
| 19:43.54 | JoshBork1 | disable all mods |
| 19:43.57 | JoshBork1 | enable them one by one |
| 19:44.14 | Aletarius | you serious? |
| 19:44.16 | Nomad_Wanderer | unless Josh borded it.. |
| 19:44.29 | Nomad_Wanderer | s/borded/borked |
| 19:44.38 | neenee | I did |
| 19:44.43 | JoshBork1 | Aletarius: we have no idea what could be causing that problem. it honesztly sounds like user error |
| 19:44.52 | JoshBork1 | there is no such thing as "wowace" |
| 19:45.00 | Aletarius | ace2 sorry |
| 19:45.00 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r23251 10RaidAgent/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:45.00 | CIA-17 | RaidAgent: |
| 19:45.00 | CIA-17 | - Cleaned up the FuBar code a bit |
| 19:45.02 | Aletarius | or all deuce |
| 19:45.03 | neenee | I disable them all, then enable them in groups, it's quicker than one by one :) |
| 19:45.04 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r23252 10RaidInfo/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:45.04 | CIA-17 | RaidInfo: |
| 19:45.04 | CIA-17 | - Cleaned up the FuBar code a bit |
| 19:45.12 | neenee | What does RaidAgent do? |
| 19:45.24 | JoshBork1 | therefore you have not thoroughly described your problem. you could attempt to help us by providing us with an error message, or if there is non, then try disabling things |
| 19:45.27 | JoshBork1 | anyway, i'm out |
| 19:45.29 | JoshBork1 | later all |
| 19:45.58 | Andune | aletarius: neenee's suggestion is best. just disable them in grps of 10-15 or so (esp. if you have a lot of mods). It's faster and narrows down the problem quicker. |
| 19:46.06 | Aletarius | cause i just installed the whole compilation and my friend did aswell and it comes with the profanity filter turned on as default like it normally does. so i go into interface options and disable it. i apply all the settings etc and the profanity filter is still on |
| 19:46.12 | Andune | aletarius: I would suggest starting with the most recent mods you added/updated :) |
| 19:47.07 | Aletarius | ah okay. ill give that a try. |
| 19:47.11 | Andune | get yourself a mod like MCP so you can enable/disable quickly in-game and reload |
| 19:47.22 | Aletarius | thanks guys! and will do on the mcp |
| 19:47.23 | ravagernl | My question hasnt been answered yet, so here goes again... Is there a reason why wow wont play mp3 files in my mod? |
| 19:47.25 | Aletarius | bye |
| 19:48.55 | CIA-17 | 03beerke * r23253 10KingOfTheJungle/ (KingOfTheJungle.lua Locales/KingOfTheJungle-enUS.lua): |
| 19:48.55 | CIA-17 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 19:48.55 | CIA-17 | - More food for the hungry pets (don't forget to /kotj resetdb) |
| 19:49.11 | Andune | ravegernl: not an expert here, but just did a quick check of several mods I use and they all use MP3. So it's definitely supported. Sure the filename is right? |
| 19:50.08 | Andune | I notice the mods that reference them use Windoze file separators - dont forget to make them all \\ - ie. Interface\\Addons\\... |
| 19:50.28 | kergoth | Antiarc: did you ever have a chance to test those kenergy fixes? |
| 19:53.58 | Prophy | is anyone still getting strange "2-3sec lockups" when ppl disconnect, leave raid, offline/online?? i'm not using ORA2/cique/ct.. |
| 19:54.42 | Nomad_Wanderer | pebI think you have a corrupted cahce |
| 19:54.51 | Nomad_Wanderer | ~s/cahce/cache |
| 19:55.20 | snurre | yay, 448 shadow dmg on my lock now :D |
| 19:55.59 | Prophy | nomad: so delete the cache? |
| 19:56.33 | KarlThePagan | snurre, is that the rank 12/13 set? |
| 19:56.33 | Nomad_Wanderer | I would delete your WDB contents, log in, then log out, and make sure you have things in there |
| 19:57.34 | snurre | KarlThePagan: only 1 piece of that set |
| 19:57.42 | snurre | 3 blue, 1 (soon 2) epics |
| 19:57.52 | snurre | not even two weeks since i dinged 60 tho |
| 19:58.23 | KarlThePagan | nice work |
| 19:58.28 | KarlThePagan | lotsa zg and aq20 eh? |
| 19:58.47 | KarlThePagan | i've only recently started upgrading out of my zg/aq20 stuff |
| 19:59.02 | KarlThePagan | broke 500 (when self-buffed) |
| 19:59.10 | snurre | nope, no raids |
| 19:59.20 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r23254 10Cancellation/Core.lua: |
| 19:59.20 | CIA-17 | Cancellation: |
| 19:59.20 | CIA-17 | - Fixed a bug that was related to the previous DB |
| 19:59.50 | snurre | http://ctprofiles.net/4894685 |
| 20:00.08 | snurre | (using a green ..of shadow wrath +41 chest instead of the epic pvp, until tomorrow) |
| 20:00.53 | Dhraga | Does DrDamage also count + healing ? |
| 20:01.10 | KarlThePagan | cool |
| 20:01.33 | CIA-17 | 03beerke * r23255 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungleUITabs.lua: |
| 20:01.34 | CIA-17 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 20:01.34 | CIA-17 | - Fixed reverse translation for non english clients |
| 20:01.58 | KarlThePagan | snurre, you should do the silithus quest "the calling" and get your sandworm gloves... they have mad +dmg |
| 20:02.14 | KarlThePagan | but keep the 2pc rank 8 set bonus |
| 20:03.13 | Hock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:03.25 | Hock | i wish i knew how to code. |
| 20:03.32 | Hock | i imagine this would be very easy to do |
| 20:03.55 | kergoth | don't wish, go learn |
| 20:04.01 | TheKarn | yeah |
| 20:04.08 | TheKarn | even kaelten can code... |
| 20:04.23 | Hock | this is a valid retort |
| 20:04.36 | Hock | to which i have no good comment other than the fact that i would rather spend my time playing in game |
| 20:04.54 | TheKarn | i actually often prefer a challenge in coding to a challenge ingame |
| 20:05.23 | kebinusan | arkiventory has some bjorked externals, Fetching external item into 'ArkInventory/Libs\AceConsole' |
| 20:08.55 | snurre | KarlThePagan: theyre 6 more dmg, hm |
| 20:09.08 | snurre | we'll see |
| 20:09.28 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 20:09.33 | snurre | havent really had time to do anything but grinding xp then honor |
| 20:09.39 | snurre | started this char after 2.0.1 |
| 20:09.50 | KarlThePagan | otherwise that's great stuff ;) - I'm locked into only normal +dmg (holy) |
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| 20:11.07 | snurre | quite happy with the equip lvl ive gotten him to in less than a month since it was created |
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| 20:11.09 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 20:11.12 | snurre | without any raiding |
| 20:11.22 | snurre | and no leeching on highbees |
| 20:11.36 | CIA-17 | 03tornhoof * r23256 10Yata/ (Options.lua TotemBar.lua readme.txt): |
| 20:11.36 | CIA-17 | Yata: |
| 20:11.36 | CIA-17 | - TotemStomper macro added (castsequence) |
| 20:11.36 | beerke | ~seen arathorn |
| 20:11.55 | purl | arathorn <n=arathorn@puma.mxtelecom.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 321d 1h 10m 24s ago, saying: 'i.e. if I have multiple extensions which'll match, which matches first?'. |
| 20:12.08 | beerke | hmm |
| 20:12.12 | Nomad_Wanderer | Karn: did you merge over the id lookup stuff into baggins |
| 20:12.24 | TheKarn | still not seen the original author |
| 20:12.42 | Nomad_Wanderer | if thats the case then there's no reason to update it either tho |
| 20:12.49 | Nomad_Wanderer | from WAU, so fine with me |
| 20:12.58 | TheKarn | hehe |
| 20:13.00 | TheKarn | so you like it then? |
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| 20:13.03 | Nomad_Wanderer | thats what I was wondering.. don't want to lose your stuff. |
| 20:13.11 | TheKarn | i still ahve to check why sometimes it doesnt change the rule |
| 20:13.18 | Nomad_Wanderer | its better than opening up PT.lua |
| 20:13.24 | kagaro | ck: there have been a few request in Cart for per module icon transparency. You see a problem with adding another interface function like IsNoteShown for icon transparency? |
| 20:13.42 | ckknight | kagaro: actually it's very easy for modules to do that now. |
| 20:13.53 | ckknight | kagaro: they just reregister icons. |
| 20:14.00 | ckknight | granted, maybe your way will work as well :-P |
| 20:14.15 | ckknight | ~seen hyperChipmunk |
| 20:14.23 | purl | hyperchipmunk <n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #hosernet, 4d 16h 37m ago, saying: 'afk'. |
| 20:14.56 | kagaro | re-registering icons works, though that doesnt handle cases where the module didnt register any icons, but re-uses existing ones like say the Quest module |
| 20:15.38 | kagaro | if you dont have a problem ill add the support for it tonight to check for a GetIconTransparency |
| 20:16.10 | kagaro | * a problem with that change that is |
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| 20:17.06 | ckknight | GetNoteTransparency() |
| 20:17.18 | GanJa | Is there anyway to get the name of the frame a module is? |
| 20:18.05 | GanJa | Also, to the BigWigs dudes, are the older mods ever gonna be updated to include the checksums for wiping and engaging? |
| 20:18.25 | kenlyric|work | anyone get a frequent problem with Chronometer using the wrong flight time from ToFu? |
| 20:18.27 | GanJa | such as like MC, BWL, AQ40 |
| 20:18.37 | |Kev| | asking again, hope this isn't boring yet, are any of the wowaceupdater people about? |
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| 20:19.19 | kagaro | ck: k |
| 20:19.27 | ckknight|work | what? |
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| 20:20.20 | kagaro | Ill make it GetNoteTransparency |
| 20:20.38 | Neriak | hi |
| 20:20.45 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r23257 10Tankalyze/Core.lua: |
| 20:20.45 | CIA-17 | Tankalyze: |
| 20:20.45 | CIA-17 | - ReAdded Lifegiving Gem |
| 20:20.51 | Neriak | ckknight|work: ping# |
| 20:21.00 | ckknight|work | Neriak: hrm? |
| 20:21.11 | ckknight|work | kagaro: k, shouldn't be hard to code up, honestly. |
| 20:21.44 | kagaro | no it shouldnt at all, would do it now but at work |
| 20:21.49 | Neriak | ckknight|work: in AceOptions data table I'd like to use hidden = "~Check(arg)" |
| 20:21.52 | TheKarn | ckk, how do i run a library method inside another library method? i.e. inside Crayon:HSLtoRGB(...) how do i run Crayon:Hue2Col(...)? |
| 20:21.56 | Neriak | ckknight|work:however it doesn't like the arg |
| 20:22.10 | ckknight|work | TheKarn: self:Hue2Col(...) |
| 20:22.19 | TheKarn | hmm that didnt work last i tried |
| 20:22.19 | Neriak | ckknight|work: args.clicks.args.search: "ModCheck(Search)" is not a proper function: |
| 20:22.30 | ckknight|work | TheKarn: and rename that HueToColor or make it local or something |
| 20:22.41 | TheKarn | what's wrong with Hue2Col? |
| 20:22.45 | ckknight|work | Neriak: err, don't think you're using it quite properly |
| 20:22.46 | TheKarn | and its Colour :P |
| 20:22.47 | Neriak | also "~ModCheck('Search') doesn't work |
| 20:23.00 | ckknight|work | TheKarn: because it should be To, not 2 |
| 20:23.18 | Neriak | Original it was hidden = function() return not self:ModCheck('Search') end |
| 20:23.19 | ckknight|work | Neriak: you can't have the parentheses in there |
| 20:23.28 | ckknight|work | Neriak: go with that, then. |
| 20:23.38 | Neriak | oh so I can't use the shortcut at all? k thanks |
| 20:23.47 | ckknight|work | sorry |
| 20:23.55 | ckknight|work | it's cause you have arguments |
| 20:24.06 | Neriak | np, but 'hidden' does also disable the command, doesn't it? |
| 20:24.31 | Neriak | so I don't have to add an extra disabled? |
| 20:24.38 | ckknight|work | right. |
| 20:24.43 | Neriak | k, nice then |
| 20:24.48 | ckknight|work | hidden overrides disabled if it's true |
| 20:24.51 | TheKarn | it works |
| 20:24.54 | TheKarn | /print AceLibrary("Crayon-2.0"):HSLtoRGB(AceLibrary("Crayon-2.0"):RGBtoHSL(0.1,0.2,0.3)) |
| 20:25.00 | TheKarn | prints 0.1, 0.2, 0.3 |
| 20:25.01 | ckknight|work | you can have hidden and disabled, disabled, or neither |
| 20:25.12 | ckknight|work | TheKarn: yay |
| 20:25.16 | Neriak | ckknight|work: excellent :) |
| 20:25.23 | KarlThePagan | Neriak, if you're doing a function and not the function name (like if you want to pass args in a fubar menu) you need to declare the function inline and make a lua "closure" |
| 20:25.25 | TheKarn | and the code is cleaner :) |
| 20:25.28 | TheKarn | well ... looks neater |
| 20:25.50 | ckknight|work | TheKarn: hooray |
| 20:25.56 | ckknight|work | kergoth: totally. |
| 20:26.06 | Neriak | KarlThePagan: yup I see, but it would be overkill for my needs :) |
| 20:26.15 | TheKarn | http://ace.pastey.net/4461 if its neat enough, say so and i'll commit |
| 20:26.16 | KarlThePagan | k |
| 20:26.36 | kagaro | ck: did you do the confirm option for execute aceoption? |
| 20:26.46 | ckknight|work | kagaro: no, been busy worrying about licenses |
| 20:26.52 | ckknight|work | I'll add it later |
| 20:27.06 | kagaro | alrighty |
| 20:28.31 | kergoth | ckknight|work: you seen http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.lua.general/24470 ? |
| 20:28.43 | kergoth | not useful for us in wow naturally, but nifty nonetheless |
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| 20:29.31 | ckknight|work | token filters? |
| 20:30.12 | kergoth | some sort of lua syntax extension thing |
| 20:30.18 | ckknight|work | ah, hrm |
| 20:30.26 | kergoth | http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.lua.general/24330 |
| 20:30.35 | kergoth | note that that class system has actual privacy |
| 20:30.38 | kergoth | pretty cool |
| 20:31.12 | GanJa | Is there anyway to get the name of the frame of a module is? cuz local m = self:GetModule(module); m:GetName() does not work |
| 20:31.12 | ckknight|work | yes. |
| 20:31.36 | KarlThePagan | I copied a technique I saw in tourist and started making a lot of local function X(self,...) |
| 20:31.46 | ckknight|work | GanJa: um, it's not a frame. |
| 20:31.49 | CIA-17 | 03nimbal 07Nimbal * r23258 10Buffalo/Buffalo/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:31.49 | CIA-17 | Buffalo (Branch): |
| 20:31.49 | CIA-17 | - fixed an issue with loading custom settings |
| 20:31.49 | CIA-17 | - added option to load a single layout (no multiple layouts yet. They are possible, but no GUI yet) |
| 20:31.49 | CIA-17 | - Dummy buffs are now shown on creation (if "Show Ghosts" is on) |
| 20:31.54 | ckknight|work | KarlThePagan: :-) |
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| 20:32.20 | KarlThePagan | only stumbling block is you gotta pre-declare your local symbols |
| 20:32.41 | ckknight|work | KarlThePagan: yea, that can be a bitch, but it's worth it, typically |
| 20:32.52 | ckknight|work | KarlThePagan: also, don't be afraid to scope some locals |
| 20:33.13 | KarlThePagan | yea I've done a few do local vars.... function end end |
| 20:33.30 | KarlThePagan | for a few constants that i never use elsewhere |
| 20:34.04 | ckknight|work | alright |
| 20:34.08 | KarlThePagan | and I've eliminated all table creation in my onevent and onupdates :D |
| 20:34.26 | KarlThePagan | well all unneccessary table creation |
| 20:34.34 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r23259 10Tankalyze/ (. Core.lua Localization.lua): |
| 20:34.34 | CIA-17 | Tankalyze: |
| 20:34.34 | CIA-17 | - Now Gift of Life is back or Lifegiving Gem as the trinket is called, last version bugged on me |
| 20:34.43 | Pkekyo | hello peoples |
| 20:34.54 | Nimbal | A little question: if a table's key won't change, but the values do, isn't it better to set all values for the persistent keys to "false" instead of "nil" when the table is recycled? To avoid overhead when assigning values to these keys next time? |
| 20:36.13 | KarlThePagan | good question... hash removal is what... O(n log n)? |
| 20:36.19 | KarlThePagan | is that true for lua tables? |
| 20:36.32 | Pkekyo | Is it possible to make an addon that announces something in different chats whenever you log on? |
| 20:36.34 | kergoth | Nimbal: thats correct, the overhead would be imposed, most likely, in the ram allocation from the table resizing for the new elements |
| 20:37.00 | JoshBork1 | wouldn't nil'd values decrease the size of the table though? so new keys don't increase it? |
| 20:37.19 | kergoth | the table wont resize until the next insertion. |
| 20:38.10 | kergoth | one of those little known facts |
| 20:38.10 | KarlThePagan | well there's 2 costs involved... |
| 20:38.10 | Nimbal | Wait... so when I nil out everything, the table is not a bit smaller, until I insert something new? |
| 20:38.10 | KarlThePagan | removing elements from the hash and resizing the table |
| 20:38.14 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r23260 10RaidInfo/common/Localization.lua: |
| 20:38.14 | CIA-17 | RaidInfo: |
| 20:38.14 | CIA-17 | - I just now realized the /RaidInfo was held by blizz allready so overwriting theirs with mine might be a bit over the top :p, changed mine to /RaInfo or /RaidInf |
| 20:38.25 | ckknight|work | Nimbal: yep... |
| 20:38.40 | Nimbal | Sometimes, Lua's strange... |
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| 20:39.14 | KarlThePagan | Nimbal, I think if you're dealing with keys which do not vary very often (values of a known set) then it's probably not bad to set values to false |
| 20:39.50 | KarlThePagan | but if you do that for tables with keys that vary greatly you could artificially cause your tables to grow (and reindex if lua doesn't have some magic resizing table crap) |
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| 20:40.19 | KarlThePagan | in java reindexing hashmaps is very expensive and in a finely tuned application should be avoided |
| 20:40.26 | Nimbal | Well, buffs tend to always have the same values that identify them. unitID, name, index, texture.... |
| 20:40.41 | KarlThePagan | in one case I dealt with recently a performance bottleneck was cleared by using binary trees instead of hashes |
| 20:40.52 | KarlThePagan | probably safe nimbal |
| 20:41.23 | zac | as long as you estimate the number of elements in the hash, you shouldn't really have to reindex much |
| 20:41.37 | KarlThePagan | yea... but I don't think lua gives us much control over that |
| 20:41.56 | zac | oh, lua. |
| 20:41.57 | KarlThePagan | unelss you artificially fill up your hash and empty it when you initialize your program |
| 20:42.19 | KarlThePagan | zac in my use case the cost of properly estimated hashmaps was several gigabytes of memory :( |
| 20:42.33 | zac | ouch. |
| 20:42.35 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 20:42.42 | zac | i think that's when you go ahead and use a database system :P |
| 20:42.59 | KarlThePagan | perhaps ;) |
| 20:43.20 | kergoth | ckknight|work: hehe, http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2006-09/msg00093.html - type checking via token filters |
| 20:43.49 | kergoth | function [name]( [type [:type]*] argName [, ...] ) end |
| 20:44.19 | ckknight|work | oh man I want that. |
| 20:45.14 | KarlThePagan | Nimbal, my bad on the big-O it's... O(log n) for insertion and removal vs O(1) for updating a value |
| 20:45.53 | kergoth | lots of potential in this stuff.. i bet you could inspect the typing of a function programmatically then, and thereby ensure that child classes comply with the interface in that respect too :) |
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| 20:48.34 | Pkekyo | Is it possible to make an addon that announces something in different chats whenever you log on? |
| 20:48.52 | ckknight|work | yep. |
| 20:49.04 | CIA-17 | 03TheKarn * r23261 10CrayonLib/ (Crayon-2.0/Crayon-2.0.lua CrayonLib.toc LICENSE.txt): CrayonLib: Added RGBtoHSL, HSLtoRGB and RotateRGBHue functions to Crayon. |
| 20:49.21 | Industrial | im a firestarter, twisted firestarter |
| 20:49.28 | GanJa | "<ckknight|work> GanJa: um, it's not a frame." ckk: How do you get the frame then? Modules are created through the frames like the boss mods and such. I'd like to get the name of the frame which is used for the module |
| 20:49.57 | ckknight|work | modules aren't created through the frames, afaik. |
| 20:50.02 | ckknight|work | they may make frames themselves, though. |
| 20:50.10 | ckknight|work | possibly stored in module.frame |
| 20:50.36 | GanJa | BigWigsHorsemen = BigWigs:NewModule(boss) |
| 20:50.41 | GanJa | function BigWigsHorsemen:OnEnable() |
| 20:51.12 | GanJa | That declares the BigWigsHorsemen as what? |
| 20:51.39 | ckknight|work | GanJa: it's a module of BigWigs. |
| 20:51.45 | ckknight|work | GanJa: no frames involved. |
| 20:51.59 | GanJa | is there any way to get the BigWigsHorsemen as a variable? |
| 20:52.10 | GanJa | or get the function or w/e |
| 20:52.20 | ckknight|work | yes, you just reference BigWigsHorsemen. |
| 20:52.20 | GanJa | I'm attempting to be able to get like... |
| 20:52.35 | kergoth | ckknight|work: you know, i bet you could get a lua 5.1 interpreter to parse a lua file, run through any token filters, and dump out the modified code, using it as a preprocessing system.. so you could run a standalone script every time you modify the prettier, more maintainable lua file, and itd emit the generated one for wow to use :P |
| 20:52.49 | Nomad_Wanderer | TheKarn:Ping |
| 20:52.51 | ckknight|work | kergoth: hrm... |
| 20:52.54 | GanJa | like the function "function BigWigs:EnableModule(module, nosync)" |
| 20:52.56 | TheKarn | Nomad_Wanderer, pong |
| 20:52.56 | ckknight|work | kergoth: would be interesting. |
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| 20:53.06 | GanJa | where Module is the name such as take for example... |
| 20:53.09 | GanJa | Loatheb |
| 20:53.16 | Nomad_Wanderer | No luck getting the autosizer in baggins to do what I want... Any hints? |
| 20:53.20 | GanJa | so it'd be function BigWigs:EnableModule("Loatheb") |
| 20:53.30 | ckknight|work | kergoth: not sure that'd be the easiest solution, though, for a few reasons |
| 20:53.32 | GanJa | and the functions are BigWigsLoatheb |
| 20:53.32 | TheKarn | autosizer? |
| 20:53.43 | kergoth | ckknight|work: fun part is, say for the object model.. people could still use it manually, we'd just be able to use syntactic conveniences in the code we maintain to hide the details |
| 20:53.45 | ckknight|work | one of which being keeping line numbers the same |
| 20:53.46 | GanJa | How can I get the var or name of BigWigsLoatheb? |
| 20:53.46 | Nomad_Wanderer | sorry autolayout, I setLayoutBounds, |
| 20:53.50 | Nomad_Wanderer | but it's all wacky. |
| 20:54.02 | ckknight|work | and people like to edit code and run it right away... |
| 20:54.03 | ckknight|work | hrm |
| 20:54.03 | kergoth | thats true, errors would be misleading |
| 20:54.22 | ckknight|work | kergoth: unless it put the errors on the same line as the function definition... |
| 20:54.47 | dafire | GanJa: the name is in the file .. where the module is registered |
| 20:55.06 | TheKarn | ewww gross ... in Stargate SG-1, they have boxes full of eyes... they have this blue sticker on saying "eyes only" |
| 20:55.26 | kergoth | hmm - http://blog.digital-scurf.org/tech/lua-with-macros.html |
| 20:55.28 | GanJa | dafire: I know where to find the name if I want to edit the code. I need to be able to pull the name up with code |
| 20:55.59 | Hjalte | Nomad_Wanderer: Nargiddley, the author, is improving the positioning of bags at some point, but right now it's rather bad, because it's just a hack of the blizzard bags, i think he said. |
| 20:56.02 | TheKarn | Nomad_Wanderer, all that does is starting at the bottomright of that box, place the first bag, then place the next above that, until such time as there is no space. then palces another to the left of the original |
| 20:56.04 | dafire | the name is chosen by the author.. you can load a module if you know the name. maybe you can get a list with all registered modules |
| 20:56.05 | GanJa | so I can hook a function and correct some mods without actually editing the boss mod files. So people can just copy and paste my module into the BigWigs addon and it will work. |
| 20:56.18 | TheKarn | Hjalte, you seen Nargiddley around anywhere? |
| 20:56.36 | Hjalte | TheKarn: Nargiddley is out of town for a few days |
| 20:56.46 | dafire | GanJa: so if you write your fix addon .. why can't you look at the code ? |
| 20:56.51 | kagaro | kergoth: did you check ou tthe new icon I added to mining? |
| 20:56.59 | TheKarn | Hjalte, think he'd mind me adding my feature to the trunk? |
| 20:57.20 | Hjalte | TheKarn: I don't think he'd mind, he seems like a nice guy, but I don't know of course :) |
| 20:57.53 | Hjalte | TheKarn: If he doesnt like it, i suppose he can just revert it back to his newest |
| 20:58.07 | GanJa | dafire: I can look at the code just fine, but I didn't want to have to register all the fixes without the modules being loaded... I wanted to fix them if they get loaded. Cut down on Memory/CPU =) |
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| 20:59.04 | dafire | GanJa: the modules are only loaded when someone target the mob ... just hook the onenable function of the boss mod |
| 21:02.38 | TheKarn | Hjalte, i'll wait |
| 21:04.49 | Hjalte | TheKarn: That's probably a good idea, we wouldn't want another author to pull his stuff from the svn because of interference.. |
| 21:06.39 | odt | is there a mod that keeps track of mail timestamps sent between your alts, so to know when something should be arriving? |
| 21:07.03 | ckknight|work | kergoth`food: interesting stuff |
| 21:07.19 | Tornhoof | odt, interesting idea odt, holler if you find something like that |
| 21:07.40 | odt | i'm doing heavy preparation for my future blood knight :) |
| 21:07.45 | odt | so a lot of mail is being sent |
| 21:07.50 | Goeb | odt- MailTo does that |
| 21:07.51 | odt | back and forth |
| 21:08.10 | odt | ok, thanks. gonna check it out |
| 21:08.18 | ckknight|work | kergoth`food: when I was a boo developer we were working on a way to inline define macros, suffixes, prefixes, etc. With it, I made a unit library that allowed you to do `assert 2.54cm == 1in` |
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| 21:08.48 | dafire | super |
| 21:09.37 | dafire | GetZoneText() gives two results in ironforge on the german client .. in some areas it's "Eisenschmiede" in others it's "Eisenschmiede (Ironforge)" |
| 21:09.51 | ckknight|work | dafire: use GetRealZoneText() |
| 21:09.59 | dafire | oh .9 thanks :) |
| 21:10.48 | Barbanus | Does anyone know what the honor cap is now? |
| 21:11.08 | neenee | wasn't it 60k? |
| 21:11.20 | Tornhoof | 75k |
| 21:11.29 | GanJa | Is there anyway to Globally hook the :OnEnable() for Bigwigs mods? |
| 21:11.45 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23262 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer: Added support for per creator transparency |
| 21:12.32 | ckknight|work | kagaro: mmm... btw, add yourself to the LICENSE.txt file and put yourself in X-Credits in the toc |
| 21:12.43 | dafire | btw is there a way to set temporary notes that are only valid until next reload ? |
| 21:13.31 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23263 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.toc LICENSE.txt): Cartographer: updated license and toc |
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| 21:13.55 | kagaro | i need to go update trasure, noteshare and stats when i get home tonight |
| 21:14.46 | snurre | is there a felwood thingy for cartographer? |
| 21:14.46 | kagaro | anyone how has the lastest cart mining, could you do me a favor go look in the artwork directory and tell em what you think of the Rich_Thorium.tga pls |
| 21:14.47 | ckknight|work | dafire: from an addon, yes |
| 21:14.51 | ckknight|work | dafire: as a user, no |
| 21:14.58 | kagaro | snurre: yes |
| 21:15.09 | dafire | ckknight|work: that's what i meant .. ok that I'll have a look at the api .9 |
| 21:15.26 | ckknight|work | dafire: basically you register a DB that's not an SV. |
| 21:15.30 | kagaro | cart treasure supports it, it also plays nicely with felwood farmer (whihc will make notes too in cart) |
| 21:15.33 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r23264 10BugSack/BugSack-deDE.lua: BugSack: Updated deDE Translation |
| 21:16.51 | kebinusan | Autotomaton needs an option to accept invites from people on your friends list but not guild |
| 21:17.12 | kebinusan | btw ckk, theres no option in click2cast to bind an item use, only spells and macros is there any reason for that? |
| 21:17.23 | pastamancer | kebinusan: yeah, screw those assholes in my guild |
| 21:17.36 | Hjalte | ~seen tristan |
| 21:17.46 | purl | tristan <i=tristan@ppp120-43.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 160d 18h 28m 40s ago, saying: 'it's tomcat tomcat-5.5.17-r1 running under gentoo 2.6.16-gentoo-r9 with sun jvm 1.5.0_07-b03'. |
| 21:17.46 | ckknight|work | kebinusan: um... try the spell one but drag an item into the editbox |
| 21:18.00 | kebinusan | k I'll give that shot |
| 21:18.59 | kebinusan | doesnt seem to work for me |
| 21:19.04 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23265 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer: Added support for per creator scaling (min .5 max 2) |
| 21:19.38 | ckknight|work | kagaro: make sure you update the wiki and such |
| 21:20.02 | kagaro | will do, ill add a whole section for Cart notes since we dont have one yet |
| 21:20.20 | GanJa | Anyone happen to know if there is a way to check a variable to make sure it's a string in LUA? |
| 21:20.39 | krka | type(v) == "string" |
| 21:20.41 | kagaro | ganja: type(var) == "string" |
| 21:20.46 | GanJa | thx |
| 21:23.10 | ckknight|work | macports doesn't like me |
| 21:23.29 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan * r23266 10/branches/GrouperLFG/ (11 files in 4 dirs): |
| 21:23.29 | CIA-17 | GrouperLFG: |
| 21:23.29 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.29 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.31 | pastamancer | ckknight|work: I use fink |
| 21:23.43 | ckknight|work | pastamancer: can't install nagios with fink |
| 21:24.10 | GanJa | does type(v) == "function" work? |
| 21:24.26 | kagaro | ck: my bad missed the link to the notes page |
| 21:24.55 | Tornhoof | ganja, yes it should be table,function,string |
| 21:25.01 | Tornhoof | number too |
| 21:25.22 | GanJa | ok last question... if the var is a function can I do.. function:GetName()? |
| 21:26.27 | pastamancer | ckknight|work: ah |
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| 21:27.03 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan 07Karl * r23267 10GrouperLFG/GrouperLFG/libs/: Created folder remotely |
| 21:27.06 | kergoth`food | GanJa: uh, functions are not tables. |
| 21:28.09 | ckknight|work | GanJa: read http://www.lua.org/pil |
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| 21:32.49 | GanJa | ckk: that doesn't answer my question nor helps me. The basics of programming in LUA are a great read. but they don't give me the resources I'm looking for. Which is obtaining the name of the function which is tied to the module being loaded. |
| 21:34.44 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan 07Karl * r23268 10GrouperLFG/GrouperLFG/ (GrouperLFG.toc libs/): |
| 21:34.44 | CIA-17 | GrouperLFG: |
| 21:34.44 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.44 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.27 | KarlThePagan | GanJa, you must learn to walk before you can run... ck carrying you on his back won't help |
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| 21:36.00 | GanJa | Yes cuz answering a complex programing language which I won't find in a manual is carrying me on his back. |
| 21:36.13 | kagaro | updated cart notes wiki entry |
| 21:36.18 | GanJa | rather complex programming question |
| 21:36.43 | KarlThePagan | "if the var is a function can I do.. function:GetName()" - not complex... that's walking |
| 21:36.56 | KarlThePagan | the solution lies in the documentation for the library you're using |
| 21:37.20 | GanJa | ..... |
| 21:37.31 | GanJa | The addon/lib is the BigWigs addon |
| 21:37.40 | GanJa | the issue is the programming for the boss mods is not complete |
| 21:38.05 | GanJa | instead of having to update each bossmod each time a new bigwigs is updated I chose to write my plugin so people could just drag and drop it into Bigwigs |
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| 21:38.22 | GanJa | the plugin works fine with naxx mods cuz they all call the engage/wiping functions |
| 21:38.32 | GanJa | where the other zones do NOT call those. |
| 21:38.35 | GanJa | so.... |
| 21:38.41 | KarlThePagan | sounds like an issue to report to the author |
| 21:39.15 | GanJa | to fix that I need to be able to fix each one of them dynamically. I already have the programming laid out I just need to be able to grab the function names... such as.... |
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| 21:39.25 | GanJa | function BigWigsJeklik:OnEnable() |
| 21:39.31 | GanJa | function BigWigsJeklik:CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_YELL(msg) |
| 21:39.34 | Tornhoof | there is no generic lua function |
| 21:39.37 | GanJa | I need BigWigsJeklik |
| 21:39.40 | Tornhoof | which will get you the name |
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| 21:39.42 | Tornhoof | of any function |
| 21:39.46 | Tornhoof | by having its pointer |
| 21:39.54 | kergoth`food | getting the name of a module isnt a lua question, nor is it a complex question, but believing that you can simply index a function is obviously betraying your ignorance about lua. as ck said, rtfm on that |
| 21:39.57 | KarlThePagan | k those the part "A" in the form function A:B() |
| 21:40.57 | KarlThePagan | which are tables... there is the AceAddon("AceModule-2.0") which is probably the API the author used |
| 21:41.06 | kergoth`food | acemodulecore modules have a 'name' field |
| 21:41.10 | kergoth`food | not exactly shocking |
| 21:41.12 | GanJa | yes.... call me ignorant for wanting to index the function... yet the whole basis behind module programming is completly indexing the function over and over |
| 21:41.22 | GanJa | the name returns this... |
| 21:41.25 | kergoth`food | no, BigWigsJeklik is not a function. |
| 21:41.34 | GanJa | take for example.... BigWigsLoatheb.name = "Loatheb" |
| 21:41.39 | GanJa | that's what it returns |
| 21:41.50 | KarlThePagan | it's a table... which is registered in the aceaddon API |
| 21:41.52 | kergoth`food | i suggest that you stop wasting our time and go read the fucking manual. |
| 21:42.07 | Antiarc | I'm still confused as to what the question actually is. |
| 21:42.18 | krka | rtfm = read the FRIENDLY manual |
| 21:42.27 | KarlThePagan | he's trying to update his plugins because the older bigwigs modules don't behave as well as the naxx ones |
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| 21:42.41 | GanJa | what Karl said |
| 21:42.58 | kergoth`food | which will be a real challenge when you're clueless about the language. |
| 21:42.59 | GanJa | but without having to edit the addons so people can just drag and drop my plugin into any version of BigWigs |
| 21:43.00 | kergoth`food | good luck |
| 21:43.06 | KarlThePagan | it's a complex answer - start with lua, then go to bigwiggs docs, then talk to author |
| 21:43.15 | Antiarc | That may not be possible if the old plugins aren't well-behaved. |
| 21:43.25 | GanJa | Glad you call me clueless as I've already found several ways for Bigwigs to keep track of what boss your in combat atm |
| 21:43.38 | odt | just a question to those on the beta - is it possible for a bloodelf lvl1 to be summoned to kalimdor (durotar starting area) technically? just the usual 20 lock + 2 others? |
| 21:43.45 | KarlThePagan | GanJa, people get testy when you ask them to do your work for you... that's all |
| 21:43.46 | GanJa | In fact the whole point about my plugin is to report back to a channel with who has died, what % the bosses are and all that. |
| 21:43.47 | kergoth`food | and thats an excuse for not knowing how the language works? |
| 21:43.51 | GanJa | Which works completely fine in Naxx |
| 21:43.52 | kergoth`food | pathetic. |
| 21:44.10 | GanJa | but in other zones the bossmods are not complete and I'm looking for ways to get them to work correctly. |
| 21:44.17 | Tornhoof | replace them |
| 21:44.31 | Antiarc | REplace or fix them, roll your own boss detector solution, any number of things |
| 21:44.43 | Antiarc | But if the old modules don't do what you want, they simply don't do what you want. |
| 21:44.59 | GanJa | they don't have to do what I want I will fix them through programming |
| 21:45.03 | GanJa | that is NOT the issue |
| 21:45.24 | Tornhoof | so where is your issue? |
| 21:45.31 | GanJa | the issue is finding what the table index is for that module so I can index the functions within it. but the issue is finding what it is. |
| 21:45.43 | Antiarc | What do you mean by "table index"? |
| 21:45.56 | GanJa | So like the index for the Loatheb mod would be "BigWigsLoatheb" |
| 21:46.10 | Antiarc | An index in a master table that the modules are referenced by? |
| 21:46.17 | Tornhoof | find out how the original author named his mods |
| 21:46.28 | kergoth`food | BigWigs:GetModule("Loatheb") |
| 21:46.40 | kergoth`food | i still odnt see what the issue is |
| 21:46.46 | GanJa | which at first you'd say ok just add "BigWigs" to the begining of the module name. But the issue is like Modules like 4 horsemen where the Module is "The four horsemen" and the Index is "BigWigsHorsemen" |
| 21:46.46 | kergoth`food | i suggest you read PIL, and the documentation on acemodulecore |
| 21:47.04 | GanJa | BigWigs:GetModule("Loatheb") will return "Loatheb" |
| 21:47.05 | kergoth`food | BigWigs:GetModule("Loatheb") will return the BigWigsLoatheb table |
| 21:47.10 | kergoth`food | no, it will not |
| 21:47.26 | GanJa | ..... |
| 21:47.37 | kergoth`food | getmodule does not return a string, first of all |
| 21:47.45 | Antiarc | I just did it. It returns the module table. |
| 21:47.48 | kergoth`food | once again, go read and stop wasting our time |
| 21:48.48 | snurre | Acolyte is spamming my warr that i dont have enough shards .p |
| 21:49.06 | Tornhoof | reroll :) |
| 21:49.11 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.13 | KarlThePagan | LFG MOD AVAILABLE - http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/GrouperLFG/Karl/ |
| 21:49.14 | KarlThePagan | woot |
| 21:49.14 | Antiarc | Which is different. |
| 21:49.15 | snurre | already done, thats why i have acolyte :p |
| 21:49.26 | thalie | reroll ahhaha |
| 21:49.33 | Tornhoof | then it's the sign to delete your warrior |
| 21:49.41 | snurre | sadly, yes :( |
| 21:49.41 | KarlThePagan | anyone pls try out GrouperLFG and leave feedback in my wowace forum thread - http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3909.0 |
| 21:49.44 | snurre | 190d wasted |
| 21:50.02 | Tornhoof | dunno just disable the mod on your warrior ;) |
| 21:52.13 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle * r23269 10/branches/GloryLib/: Created folder remotely |
| 21:52.49 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle 07french-loc * r23270 10GloryLib/: Created folder remotely |
| 21:53.13 | snurre | Tornhoof: i dont play him enough to remember that :p |
| 21:53.22 | snurre | gonna disable it complete tho, i think |
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| 21:54.57 | Amadeo | the LED-backlight laptops will have around 1,680cd/m² brightness ratings...that's really awesome |
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| 21:58.04 | groll | KarlTheP|lunch doh lucnh oh well me testing |
| 21:58.21 | Adirelle-Hom1 | ckknight: i commited my changes in a branch of GloryLib |
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| 22:00.29 | Saroz | Warrior in AV: "Who are you healing?", Me: "Noone", him: "Wanna go kill some horde, Me: "No, sry, coding raid frames", him: "Oh" |
| 22:00.43 | andremar | haha |
| 22:00.51 | KarlTheP|lunch | groll, <3 <3 cool |
| 22:00.52 | Saroz | AV ftw |
| 22:01.15 | groll | KarlTheP|lunch but erm.. what to call the folder it's in? :P |
| 22:01.25 | KarlTheP|lunch | GrouperLFG |
| 22:01.36 | KarlTheP|lunch | same as the toc |
| 22:01.47 | groll | ok thx |
| 22:02.08 | KarlTheP|lunch | aw and if you're not checking out via subversion you'll have to download all those libraries I list in the thread |
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| 22:02.29 | groll | erf :P dont want libs! :P |
| 22:02.39 | groll | and no svn software :P |
| 22:02.47 | KarlTheP|lunch | you will see a lot of stuff related to the auto-lfg feature... it's basic behavior and data are in but I still need to hack out the behavior when the player transitions from solo->group,group->solo, zones, gets on a flightpath etc |
| 22:03.11 | groll | okies.. oh well i'll get the libs i guess :P |
| 22:03.21 | KarlThePagan | heh such is the consequences of alpha testing |
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| 22:03.46 | KarlThePagan | hey ckknight - check out GrouperLFG :D |
| 22:04.06 | KarlThePagan | just in a branch right now, but starting to shape up nicely http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3909.0 |
| 22:05.42 | kagaro | kergoth: take a look at the rich_throium icon I added to caret mining if you dont have objections ill adjust mining to use it. let me know via forum pm if im not on |
| 22:06.06 | pastamancer | Saroz: ping |
| 22:07.55 | Elkano | Karl, it uses Blizzard's LFG API, I can't come nicely ;) |
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| 22:08.11 | kergoth | kagaro: okay, i'll take a look when i get home. still at work |
| 22:08.16 | KarlThePagan | Elkano, the bad part of blizz's api is the UI :P |
| 22:08.17 | Elkano | but you could add some screenshots :) |
| 22:08.20 | KarlThePagan | yes |
| 22:08.38 | groll | doh quitox page is fubar |
| 22:09.06 | Elkano | well, I have the feeling that it won't unregister you propperly if you found a group since when ever I used it, I still got a bunch of group requests after I was grouped in in the instance :/ |
| 22:09.37 | groll | KarlThePagan can u provide a link to the lib of quitox? the webpage is fubar and i cant find a link |
| 22:09.38 | snurre | Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Activation.Timer.Stop-offlinevista.torrent hihi |
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| 22:09.51 | KarlThePagan | Elkano, that's actually blizz's fault... ;) they monitor the group members change event but they don't clear your LFG when you find a group |
| 22:09.58 | Gagorian | anyone got a german localized client? |
| 22:10.11 | Elkano | well, I meant Blizz ^^ didn't use yours, yet |
| 22:10.28 | KarlThePagan | groll, http://wowace.com/files/Quixote/Quixote-r23082.zip |
| 22:10.51 | groll | thx |
| 22:10.52 | Elkano | Gagorian, I used to but I couldn't stand it any longer, y? |
| 22:11.01 | KarlThePagan | Elkano, yea coo - I can totally fix that problem ;) but I haven't actually finished the code that joins/parts you from the LFG queue |
| 22:11.35 | KarlThePagan | I want to get the behavior right before I start playing in the queue |
| 22:12.19 | Gagorian | Elkano: Interested in what format mana cost is in the tooltip. (%d+) Mana probably but would like to make sure |
| 22:12.29 | Gagorian | French are weird and have Mana : (%d+) |
| 22:13.46 | Elkano | wel,, French... ;) |
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| 22:14.20 | ravagernl | omg http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5670/buena-unit-frames-buu/ hawt layout for agUF |
| 22:14.24 | Saroz | pastamancer |
| 22:14.27 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r23273 10RaidAgent/common/Localization.lua: |
| 22:14.27 | CIA-17 | RaidAgent: |
| 22:14.27 | CIA-17 | - Changed raid -> group in menus since I made the addon work with guild etc |
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| 22:14.39 | vhaarr | Kaelten: Seems some SVN mirror is out of sync. |
| 22:14.47 | Gamefaq|afk | ag around? |
| 22:14.58 | ckknight | Gamefaq|afk: doesn't look like it. |
| 22:14.59 | Gamefaq|afk | hi vhaarr |
| 22:15.04 | vhaarr | hi faq |
| 22:15.04 | Gamefaq|afk | :/ |
| 22:15.05 | ckknight | vhaarr: you're here! |
| 22:15.11 | Amadeo | ravagernl: I think you're staring at the naked NE, because that layout isn't attractive to me! :P |
| 22:15.11 | vhaarr | ckknight: hey, happy new year :) |
| 22:15.30 | ravagernl | lol, it's the unitframe thats cool :P |
| 22:15.31 | vid` | nice flag carrier targeting is back in capping~ |
| 22:15.55 | vid` | anyone look at new whispercast yet and figure out how it works in combat>? |
| 22:15.59 | pastamancer | Saroz: oh what code I've written |
| 22:16.11 | ravagernl | vid`: theres buffq, lemme find a link |
| 22:16.21 | pastamancer | Saroz: I still don't know how I want addons to request that they be notified of the spell events |
| 22:16.30 | vid` | well whispercast is working in combat, just curious if anyone figured out how |
| 22:16.33 | vid` | cause it supports decursing |
| 22:16.41 | Elkano | Gagorian, seems to be "xxx Mana", too |
| 22:16.46 | vid` | so i was thinking someone could write a mod that would automatically send tells to assigned people |
| 22:16.52 | vid` | for decursing when they get cursed |
| 22:17.02 | Saroz | pastamancer, is it a lib or a mod? |
| 22:17.08 | vid` | and whispercast could queue up the decurses |
| 22:17.10 | vid` | :) |
| 22:17.15 | pastamancer | Saroz: lib, let me pastey what I have so far |
| 22:17.23 | Saroz | just triggerevent |
| 22:17.34 | ravagernl | buffq = ace2 WC counterpart :P |
| 22:17.39 | vid` | ah nice |
| 22:17.46 | vid` | never heard of it |
| 22:17.49 | vid` | prob cause its not on svn!~ |
| 22:18.09 | pastamancer | Saroz: http://ace.pastey.net/4477 |
| 22:18.09 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r23274 10RaidInfo/common/ (Comm.lua Localization_special.lua): |
| 22:18.09 | CIA-17 | RaidInfo: |
| 22:18.09 | CIA-17 | - Think I'm having an error with , and . so using floor ceiling on the values sent |
| 22:18.19 | ravagernl | lol I forgot where I downloaded it |
| 22:18.47 | pastamancer | Saroz: completely drycoded FYI |
| 22:19.02 | ravagernl | yeah here vid` http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6661-BuffQ.html |
| 22:19.31 | vid` | cool thanks |
| 22:19.33 | kergoth | buffq doesnt work in combat though |
| 22:19.36 | vid` | oh |
| 22:19.38 | vid` | whispercast does~ |
| 22:19.39 | vid` | hehe |
| 22:19.39 | pastamancer | Saroz: and nevermind the typo on line 210 |
| 22:19.48 | vid` | thats why im wondering if anyone looked at it and figured out how |
| 22:19.54 | vid` | i think someone in here mentioned it scans the whole raid |
| 22:19.57 | vid` | in a loop |
| 22:20.07 | vid` | and uses a macro to cast |
| 22:20.29 | vid` | can a mod send tells to people? |
| 22:20.39 | vid` | i would guess so |
| 22:20.48 | ZealotOnAStick | Yes. |
| 22:20.49 | vid` | since mods reply to you |
| 22:20.50 | vid` | :P |
| 22:20.51 | vid` | yea |
| 22:21.09 | Saroz | pastamancer, this is only to send the channel messages? I was thinking the lib would react on events from all UNIT_SPELLCAST_START in the raid |
| 22:21.18 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r23275 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua Localization.lua SpellData.lua): |
| 22:21.18 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 22:21.18 | CIA-17 | -A few additions to localization. |
| 22:21.20 | vid` | so you can write a mod to send a tell to a set list of players based on the curse casted saying 'decurse me' or whatever |
| 22:21.35 | vid` | and it would queue you up in their WC, then the player just bangs away their macro for whispercast |
| 22:21.41 | vid` | and decurses everyone |
| 22:21.42 | vid` | :P |
| 22:21.50 | vid` | im sure it would get nerfed fast tho |
| 22:21.54 | pastamancer | Saroz: determining the real target is horribly unreliable |
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| 22:22.22 | Saroz | pastamancer, hrrrrmmmm |
| 22:22.22 | pastamancer | Saroz: if addons want to guess, let them do it on their own |
| 22:22.23 | Saroz | true |
| 22:22.31 | pastamancer | and I mean *horribly* unreliable |
| 22:22.35 | kergoth | vid`: personally, i'll stick to buffq. no point getting spoiled by something thatll stop working soon anyway |
| 22:22.48 | Saroz | or someone get on the red line with slouken and get target returned from UnitCastingInfo |
| 22:22.49 | vid` | yea |
| 22:22.55 | vid` | they will prob nerf whispercast next patch |
| 22:22.56 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq 07Rabbit * r23276 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFuLocal-deDE.lua): FuBar_GroupFu: Added deDE Translation |
| 22:23.01 | vid` | plus it only works with titan :( |
| 22:23.05 | pastamancer | Saroz: I think there would be pvp implications |
| 22:23.06 | Gamefaq|afk | vhaarr: you want it you get it...;) |
| 22:23.06 | vid` | no fubar module |
| 22:23.21 | Saroz | vhaarr, your key binding for announcing the winner doesnt work btw |
| 22:23.25 | vid` | and honestly its not like you are buffing people in combat |
| 22:23.30 | pastamancer | Saroz: but if UnitCastingInfo gave target, there wouldn't be a need for this lib |
| 22:23.30 | Saroz | pastamancer, oh? |
| 22:23.33 | vid` | so its pretty useless in combat cept for decursing |
| 22:23.34 | Saroz | ya |
| 22:23.57 | vhaarr | Gamefaq|afk: Want what? :P |
| 22:23.59 | pastamancer | Saroz: yeah, I think you can cast offensive spells at a unit other than target |
| 22:24.08 | vhaarr | Saroz: The winner of what? |
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| 22:24.24 | Saroz | the rolls, in groupfu |
| 22:24.42 | Gamefaq|afk | vhaarr: see abouve the comit :) |
| 22:24.42 | Ominous | hmm dosent Tsvn have a command liine option as well? |
| 22:25.02 | kergoth | why would it? theres a perfectly good svn client at the commandline from the subversion project |
| 22:25.08 | vid` | hahahaha @ CBRipoff |
| 22:25.09 | vhaarr | Gamefaq|afk, Saroz: ah |
| 22:25.12 | kergoth | it may include that binary, but it certainl isnt a tsvn thing :P |
| 22:25.15 | vhaarr | I can fix that. |
| 22:25.35 | vid` | CBRipoff = greatest mod description ever |
| 22:25.41 | vid` | er commit msg i should say |
| 22:25.54 | Saroz | pastamancer, true, true... hrrm, I dunno, if UnitCastingInfo() returned target, it would be awesome |
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| 22:26.10 | Saroz | but untill then, I like the concept |
| 22:26.29 | Saroz | pastamancer, you try and guess the target in Grid, no? |
| 22:26.51 | pastamancer | Saroz: I do. It's code from squishy. It's still unreliable. |
| 22:27.05 | Saroz | yea, raid%dtarget |
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| 22:27.07 | KarlThePagan | Elkano, screenshots added http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/karlp/wow/grouper2.jpg and http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/karlp/wow/grouper1.jpg |
| 22:27.13 | ckknight | what's CBRipoff |
| 22:27.15 | ckknight | ? |
| 22:27.24 | haste | oCB renamed and slightly shaven |
| 22:27.48 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh, vhaarr, something I meant to ask about GroupFu - is there an option to sort the rolls by either highest to lowest or lowest to highest in the tooltip that I haven't found? If not, would you add such? |
| 22:28.07 | Saroz | indeeeed |
| 22:28.08 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: Give me a minute, I'll check. |
| 22:28.09 | Saroz | would be nice |
| 22:28.24 | vhaarr | haste: I'm going to shave it more. |
| 22:28.29 | vhaarr | haste: I just wanted to get it in there. |
| 22:28.32 | Saroz | vhaarr, and would be awesome with an option to show if there were more than 1 winning roll |
| 22:28.34 | haste | :3 |
| 22:28.58 | vhaarr | Saroz: How could there be more than 1, if two people roll the same highest number? |
| 22:29.26 | Goeb | what's the deal with the oCB/oCD anyhow? by taking it out of /files he's just insuring noone will use it anymore and look for alternative mods |
| 22:30.03 | Goeb | solve the real problem. let authors lock their svn directories so others can't commit to them |
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| 22:30.20 | vid` | goeb |
| 22:30.27 | vid` | i think you can now |
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| 22:30.34 | vid` | or at least someone said they were working on it /shrug |
| 22:30.48 | Goeb | I think they've been working on it for some time... |
| 22:30.58 | Saroz | vhaarr, because it's an even roll, so it calls for a reroll |
| 22:31.20 | Goeb | alternately, have someone police the svn and if someone commits without permission, pull their svn account |
| 22:31.22 | vhaarr | Goeb: That's already possible, some authors are just confused. |
| 22:31.29 | Castdead | hello guys, i have a non ace specific question (tho i use ace for my addon). It's actually my first addon |
| 22:31.43 | vhaarr | Goeb: SCT has been in the SVN for a long time, and it has always been locked. |
| 22:32.10 | Goeb | vhaarr- ok, so... someone tell me why oCB isn't in /files anymore then? |
| 22:32.18 | vhaarr | Goeb: haste is drunk. |
| 22:32.21 | haste | it's not on the SVN |
| 22:32.28 | Goeb | heh |
| 22:32.30 | haste | it is still however on /files/oCB still |
| 22:32.41 | haste | still still still |
| 22:32.52 | ravagernl | wow pastamancer i didnt know Grid could do this http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3871.0 |
| 22:33.14 | Goeb | err... it is? |
| 22:33.23 | vhaarr | Saroz: What keybinding are you refering to? |
| 22:33.30 | haste | write it and see |
| 22:33.37 | Saroz | CTRL+click |
| 22:33.53 | vhaarr | ah |
| 22:34.04 | vhaarr | Saroz: Get any error, then? |
| 22:34.07 | Saroz | nope |
| 22:34.10 | Saroz | just no output |
| 22:34.18 | Goeb | haste- I don't see it :( |
| 22:34.20 | Saroz | it's set to Auto |
| 22:34.35 | vhaarr | Saroz: Then it should announce in the party/raid automatically. |
| 22:34.39 | Goeb | but... I only have 4 letters in my name which indicates a small cranial capacity |
| 22:34.54 | Saroz | so you can't CTRL+click to output the winner, when it's set to Auto? |
| 22:35.09 | vhaarr | Saroz: You can, but not after the timeout has passed. |
| 22:35.12 | haste | http://www.wowace.com/files/oCB/ << see what I mean now? |
| 22:35.21 | Goeb | ok, so the auto directory stuff doesn't show it cuz it's not in the svn |
| 22:35.30 | Goeb | which means WAU can't see it either... |
| 22:35.34 | vhaarr | Saroz: Basically, if the FuBar text is back to telling you the loot type, Ctrl+Click doesn't work. |
| 22:35.35 | Saroz | k, gonna remove it from auto then |
| 22:35.41 | Castdead | i try to use a two dimensional table, which is a copy of a created one (named: oldcurelist.["curer"], but it is not declared in the function, cause it cannot be erased, because the new curelist is only a slight difference of the old, and thereby in function of the old. Should I declare the old in the beginning then? sorry for off topic :) |
| 22:35.48 | haste | that might be |
| 22:35.48 | Goeb | yeah, I typed it directly and it's there... |
| 22:35.54 | Saroz | it doesnt vhaarr, it shows me the winning roll, but I cant output it |
| 22:36.22 | vhaarr | Saroz: okay, let me log in and check soon. |
| 22:36.22 | vhaarr | thanks |
| 22:36.22 | Saroz | nps |
| 22:36.22 | Goeb | anyhow, ignore my ranting ;) had too much to drink at lunch... or something |
| 22:36.27 | Fisker- | ah fucking ey |
| 22:36.41 | haste | Goeb: on the bright side, WAU will get support for other sites |
| 22:36.49 | Goeb | good deal :) |
| 22:36.51 | haste | which means the number fucking one reason people whine is removed |
| 22:37.13 | Goeb | yeah, so they stop pulling the non-release versions down, then bitching it doesn't work |
| 22:37.18 | Fisker- | Hadn't checked "Show usable only" on AH |
| 22:37.18 | Castdead | i don't know if declaring at beginning will work, because the 2nd dimension of the table is variable (names of curers, and can change too ofc) |
| 22:37.26 | Fisker- | so now i bought like 10 useless enchants :( |
| 22:37.35 | ravagernl | I'd really like WAU have columns for online version and local version |
| 22:37.38 | haste | Goeb: that's not really the problem, the problem is however they I get flamed for not using the Ace SVN anymore |
| 22:37.59 | haste | and honestly, I've become so sick of it that I've just blocked all access to wowace.com locally here |
| 22:38.04 | haste | so I don't have to see it at all |
| 22:38.33 | ravagernl | I understand why you're moving away from svn haste, industrial did it too |
| 22:38.42 | Goeb | haste- heh |
| 22:38.47 | Goeb | haste- well that's one way to do it |
| 22:38.55 | ravagernl | he even made his own event handler to handle his minimalistic mods :> |
| 22:39.09 | haste | ravagernl: just wish the fucktards that hate me now for making it harder for them to update understood it also |
| 22:39.58 | Goeb | I'll be perfectly honest haste, I'm not trying to flame you, or judge your decision at all... I'm curious if there's a bandwagon to jump on to, and what validity there is to it :) |
| 22:39.59 | ravagernl | oCB is a really nice mod, tho I use ICEhud :P |
| 22:40.06 | [dRaCo] | Tornhoof: one more bug :/ |
| 22:40.28 | Tornhoof | which? |
| 22:40.42 | haste | Goeb: I'm very easy to trigger on this subject right now, imagen a constant week with people flaming you for it |
| 22:40.45 | [dRaCo] | all custom sets give me a warning |
| 22:40.53 | haste | think I've been called everything from childish to retarded now |
| 22:40.54 | [dRaCo] | they work, but it's kinda irritating |
| 22:41.01 | Tornhoof | warning? |
| 22:41.04 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 22:41.16 | Tornhoof | which? |
| 22:41.23 | [dRaCo] | gimme a moment |
| 22:41.28 | Goeb | haste- welcome to the Intardnet :) |
| 22:42.06 | haste | I'm a 4chaner, so I know all about it :3 |
| 22:42.14 | Goeb | ! |
| 22:42.17 | haste | but honestly, one week of almost constant whine gets too you |
| 22:42.46 | KarlThePagan | holy ficking jezus shitsickle .... http://worldofraids.free.fr/bc/diagram.jpg |
| 22:42.57 | [dRaCo] | Tornhoof: "Problem with set, ignoring current value, you should delete it" |
| 22:43.18 | Goeb | ya know what would make WAU nice? a feedback mechanism... |
| 22:43.41 | ravagernl | haste did ya know rabbit ripped it off |
| 22:43.45 | Goeb | since so many people use it to autoupdate... include a way for them to submit useful feedback/bugreports |
| 22:43.59 | haste | ravagernl: yes, I basicly told him to do it |
| 22:44.03 | Tornhoof | did you reskill after creating a set and it's using a totem you don't have? |
| 22:44.07 | [dRaCo] | no |
| 22:44.10 | ravagernl | omg |
| 22:44.30 | ckknight | stop flaming haste. |
| 22:44.33 | ckknight | flamers. |
| 22:44.41 | haste | (they aren't) |
| 22:44.52 | Tornhoof | go look into your savedvariables/yata.lua if one of the sets happen to have 3 keys instead of two |
| 22:45.07 | vid` | hmm |
| 22:45.15 | vid` | author of BuffQ said he is discontinuing it |
| 22:45.19 | vid` | since WC2.0 is out :\ |
| 22:45.34 | ravagernl | pff WC is better code then also? |
| 22:45.41 | Goeb | so how does wc work these days? |
| 22:45.49 | Goeb | EditMacro ? |
| 22:46.04 | Tornhoof | not in combat i'd say |
| 22:46.20 | Goeb | yeah EditMacro only works outta combat as well now |
| 22:46.39 | [dRaCo] | nope, 2 per "tier" |
| 22:46.48 | Tornhoof | hmm |
| 22:46.51 | vid` | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5019 |
| 22:46.55 | vid` | whispercastfu |
| 22:46.56 | vid` | ! |
| 22:46.57 | vid` | nice |
| 22:47.03 | Goeb | I had to resort to using EditMacro for some things... I'm sure they're gonna nerf it silly soon |
| 22:47.17 | ravagernl | vid`the guy from WC says hes gonna make fubar plugin too |
| 22:47.30 | vid` | yea |
| 22:47.36 | vid` | apparantly that fubar plugin hasnt been updated ina while |
| 22:48.14 | ravagernl | omg I can see it already |
| 22:48.22 | ravagernl | Whispercast is so bloated |
| 22:48.26 | vid` | :P |
| 22:48.35 | vid` | yea i wonder why the BuffQ author gave up already |
| 22:48.54 | vid` | since theres no ace'd ver of whispercast |
| 22:49.05 | kergoth | that sucks |
| 22:49.11 | ckknight | well, spoken to AnduinLothar about working together with his community |
| 22:49.21 | ckknight | looks like it's not going to happen |
| 22:49.29 | vid` | what community is that |
| 22:49.29 | ravagernl | well BuffQ works fine imho |
| 22:49.30 | kergoth | is this where we act surprised? |
| 22:49.31 | kergoth | at least you tried |
| 22:49.32 | Tornhoof | no idea draco, go paste your totemsets here: http://ace.pastey.net/ |
| 22:49.34 | haste | vid`: Cosmos |
| 22:49.38 | vid` | ahh |
| 22:49.46 | vid` | i used to use cosmos pre 2.0 :P |
| 22:50.00 | vid` | what did you guys want to intergrate ace mods into cosmos? |
| 22:50.02 | ravagernl | how can you espect that from anduin |
| 22:50.11 | ckknight | vid`: we just want the opportunity to. |
| 22:50.16 | vid` | ah |
| 22:50.27 | ckknight | and we want the opportunity to allow them to build on our work |
| 22:50.28 | vid` | why do some people have an opposition to ace mods |
| 22:50.32 | ckknight | but I guess not |
| 22:50.49 | ckknight | vid`: because it's run with a fascist aesthetic and an intense zealous backend |
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| 22:50.55 | [dRaCo] | tornhoof: http://ace.pastey.net/4481 |
| 22:51.05 | vid` | ravagernl: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7770&highlight=buffq |
| 22:51.16 | vid` | WhisperCast has been updated for 2.0, therefore this mod will be discontinued (at least publically). |
| 22:51.16 | vid` | I only did this mod for fun to get my feet wet with the Ace2 libs and I originally wasn't going to release this to the public (hence the simple design). Decided to put it on here for friends/guildies until WC got updated, which didn't take long once this went up |
| 22:51.19 | vid` | :( |
| 22:51.32 | vid` | someone should ask him if they could continue it |
| 22:51.34 | vid` | and put it on svn |
| 22:51.52 | Tornhoof | ah yes draco, swapping the some totem multiple times is still heavily buggy |
| 22:52.16 | [dRaCo] | oh, ok. |
| 22:52.24 | [dRaCo] | guess I'm gonna fix them in the config. |
| 22:52.33 | ravagernl | :( |
| 22:53.03 | evl | Any alternative to Sanity2 that shows contents of bags/bank across multiple characters? |
| 22:53.11 | vid` | characterinfo |
| 22:53.34 | Goeb | arkinventory does as well (among other things) |
| 22:53.41 | ZealotOnAStick | I think ArkInventory can do that. One~ storage/view/bag/etc. |
| 22:53.59 | ZealotOnAStick | Possessions |
| 22:53.59 | evl | I really just need a summary |
| 22:54.01 | evl | of All the items |
| 22:54.04 | Tornhoof | you should delete that unused Totemsets{} key too |
| 22:54.10 | Tornhoof | the one with default |
| 22:54.14 | Tornhoof | it'S from a previous version |
| 22:54.23 | [dRaCo] | alright |
| 22:54.45 | ravagernl | haste: are future versions not going to use ace libs anymore or is that a rumor? ARe you going to use something else, dongle perhaps? |
| 22:55.02 | haste | ping pong |
| 22:55.11 | nuOHEP | he is using dongle already :) |
| 22:55.26 | vid` | zomg more libs i need |
| 22:55.27 | vid` | :\ |
| 22:55.27 | ckknight | frankly, I've come to the conclusion that users really shouldn't be worried about what framework a developer uses |
| 22:55.41 | Tornhoof | dongle? |
| 22:55.42 | vid` | what else is there now |
| 22:55.44 | vid` | sea, ace, dongle |
| 22:55.46 | ckknight | as long as it works... |
| 22:55.54 | Goeb | ck- shouldn't be... but are anyhow |
| 22:55.55 | Tornhoof | yeh let's use hardware keys for our mods :) |
| 22:55.57 | ckknight | vid`: CT_Library, but that's proprietary, afaik |
| 22:56.10 | Mikma | haste: lolo |
| 22:56.10 | vid` | discord use its own libs? |
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| 22:56.17 | haste | DiscordLibs |
| 22:56.21 | vid` | ah k |
| 22:56.36 | haste | It's an external dep afaik, might change in the next version |
| 22:57.35 | Gnarfoz | ironically, Dongle has the name of what Ace2 would become if it were to be GPL'd |
| 22:57.49 | evl | Possessions works great |
| 22:57.53 | evl | Thanks, I just need something stable now |
| 22:57.55 | ravagernl | So ive read that cladhaire is uding dongle also, who is developing it and where |
| 22:58.03 | ravagernl | using* |
| 22:58.04 | vhaarr | cladhaire made it. |
| 22:58.04 | nuOHEP | gcode |
| 22:58.53 | vid` | Xtreme firmware 5.2 for TS-H943 |
| 22:58.55 | vid` | ooo~ |
| 22:58.58 | nuOHEP | http://code.google.com/p/dongle/ |
| 22:59.02 | Tornhoof | next step is using funny obfuscated code ;) |
| 22:59.10 | ckknight | is wowace down? |
| 22:59.32 | Goeb | nope |
| 22:59.35 | axxo | hmm gmail still downloadble on linked on the site :) |
| 22:59.43 | Gnarfoz | Tornhoof: I can see it coming... |
| 22:59.50 | vid` | svn checkout http://dongle.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ dongle |
| 22:59.57 | Gnarfoz | not still, again. it's new I think, axxo |
| 23:00.08 | vhaarr | ckknight: I think one of the SVN mirrors is out of sync. |
| 23:00.09 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, up here |
| 23:00.10 | axxo | doubt it, not in the index |
| 23:00.26 | pastamancer | Saroz: ping |
| 23:00.35 | Saroz | pong |
| 23:00.43 | pastamancer | http://ace.pastey.net/4483 |
| 23:00.45 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: works now |
| 23:01.03 | ZealotOnAStick | pastamancer: you seen a bug report yet on Grid with range indicators and hunter pets? |
| 23:01.16 | pastamancer | ZealotOnAStick: nope |
| 23:01.36 | ZealotOnAStick | Guys, what's considered acceptable/proper in the case of picking up an addon that is apparently discontinued, when reasonable efforts to contact the original author have been made with no response? |
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| 23:01.56 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: Do it and credit the original author. |
| 23:02.00 | ZealotOnAStick | ok. I'll yell at my guildy there, I linked the wiki entry on how to submit a bug to him and he was supposed to submit it. |
| 23:02.26 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r23277 10ag_UnitFrames/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:02.26 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames: |
| 23:02.26 | CIA-17 | - Updated deDE Translation |
| 23:02.26 | CIA-17 | - Added the Option (Prioritize buffs) from ag_DropdownMenu.lua to ag_UnitFrames-enUS.lua since this was forgotten in the past when this option was added to aguf |
| 23:02.26 | CIA-17 | - Changed ag_UnitFrames-deDE.lua to UTF-8 Format |
| 23:02.50 | [dRaCo] | hm... how do I fix these broken sets? I don't get the way they are saved. |
| 23:02.58 | ZealotOnAStick | Apparently if his pet is next to him, it always shows everyone as in range, but if the pet is far from him, everyone shows as OoR |
| 23:03.15 | pastamancer | ZealotOnAStick: hahaha, I'll bet I know what's causing that |
| 23:03.18 | groll | Tornhoof around? |
| 23:03.39 | pastamancer | ZealotOnAStick: tell him to turn on debugging for GridRange |
| 23:03.51 | Saroz | looks nice pastamancer |
| 23:03.58 | pastamancer | ZealotOnAStick: I'll bet it's trying to use his pet heal for range checking |
| 23:04.25 | ZealotOnAStick | ok. |
| 23:04.58 | pastamancer | Saroz: I like my little lib code at the bottom. No need to worry about any outside code. |
| 23:05.00 | Gnarfoz | <axxo> doubt it, not in the index <- in trunk /GMail does not even contain anything besides libs |
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| 23:05.39 | ravagernl | ~seen rabbit |
| 23:06.09 | purl | rabbit <n=rabbit@net.w0w0w.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 497d 23h 36m 7s ago, saying: '+in'. |
| 23:06.09 | ckknight | ravagernl: he's here now (vhaarr) |
| 23:06.09 | vhaarr | hi |
| 23:06.09 | ravagernl | :o |
| 23:06.10 | dafire | hmm... can I disable SetStrictness from babbleboss for my addon ? I tried local BB = AceLibrary("Babble-Boss-2.2");BB:SetStrictness(false) .. but that seems not to work .9 |
| 23:06.31 | ravagernl | I was wondering if you are working on this issue http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3812.0 |
| 23:06.36 | Tornhoof | the sets are saved as permutations basically it's a list of switch totem {first,second} |
| 23:06.55 | vhaarr | ravagernl: I'll try to fix it tonight, but I'm on vacation, so I'm not at my regular computer. |
| 23:07.04 | Funkeh` | hey guys |
| 23:07.05 | ravagernl | I see hehe :) |
| 23:07.12 | ckknight | dafire: do _not_ do that. |
| 23:07.17 | ckknight | dafire: check with :HasTranslation |
| 23:07.47 | dafire | ah .. that's ok to .. I just need to know if the kill was a boss .9 |
| 23:08.05 | ckknight | yea, use HasTranslation |
| 23:08.07 | dafire | and then get the name :) |
| 23:08.09 | ckknight | or, actually |
| 23:08.12 | Wogroipl | ckknight, what's the difference between Cartographer_Opening and _Treasure? |
| 23:08.14 | ckknight | :HasReverseTranslation |
| 23:08.14 | dafire | thanks :) |
| 23:08.17 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r23278 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 23:08.17 | CIA-17 | Antagonist: |
| 23:08.17 | CIA-17 | - Now when you target a unit which is midway through a cast, the bar for that |
| 23:08.18 | CIA-17 | cast will not be set to full fill with the time left on the cast. The bar will |
| 23:08.18 | CIA-17 | be set to the full cast time of the spell and the time left on the bar will be |
| 23:08.18 | CIA-17 | set to the time left on the cast. Sorry if its confusing, you'll see what I |
| 23:08.19 | ckknight | Wogroipl: use Treasure |
| 23:08.22 | CIA-17 | mean. |
| 23:08.28 | Wogroipl | thanks |
| 23:08.33 | ckknight | lunchtime |
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| 23:08.48 | dafire | I'll check in my raidtracker later .. then you can see my cruel code :O |
| 23:09.59 | [dRaCo] | wait... does this mean there is no way of achieving the layout I want, Tornhoof? |
| 23:10.25 | Snago | is there an explode-function in a library somewhere? |
| 23:10.25 | CIA-17 | 03nimbal 07Nimbal * r23279 10Buffalo/Buffalo/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:10.25 | CIA-17 | Buffalo (Branch): |
| 23:10.25 | CIA-17 | - In-game configuration almost complete |
| 23:10.25 | CIA-17 | - Added "OnButtonCreation" method for layouts like Dreamlayout |
| 23:10.46 | vhaarr | ~seen googlesearch |
| 23:10.49 | purl | googlesearch <n=pb_ee1@rob92-8-82-242-12-147.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12d 6h 42m 33s ago, saying: 'Ok, thanks :))'. |
| 23:10.51 | Tornhoof | explode function? |
| 23:10.52 | vhaarr | ffs |
| 23:11.01 | vhaarr | Snago: How about you fucking google it? |
| 23:11.05 | vhaarr | "lua string explode" |
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| 23:12.00 | TheKarn | isnt there a tokenize? |
| 23:13.16 | ravagernl | Snago: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaRecipes |
| 23:14.01 | Snago | No reason to be rude. I've searched the wiki, was hoping it was in an ace-library already before I stole it from somewhere else.. |
| 23:14.12 | Snago | thanks ravagernl |
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| 23:15.12 | ravagernl | Snago, was I being rude to you then :o |
| 23:15.41 | kergoth | Snago: just use strsplit() :P |
| 23:16.03 | kergoth | local foo = "a b c" print(foo:split()) |
| 23:16.09 | Tornhoof | hmm |
| 23:16.36 | Tornhoof | this implode function is using pairs(), pairs() does not guarantee the correct order |
| 23:16.37 | TheKarn | /dump ("a b c"):split() |
| 23:16.38 | TheKarn | as a test |
| 23:16.48 | Snago | no ravagernl, i was referring to vhaarr |
| 23:17.06 | ravagernl | ok |
| 23:17.07 | TheKarn | pairs does tornhoof afaik, ipairs does not |
| 23:18.02 | Tornhoof | no pairs is using next(), which does not guarantee it |
| 23:18.11 | Tornhoof | The order in which the indices are enumerated is not specified, even for numeric indices. (To traverse a table in numeric order, use a numerical for or the ipairs function.) |
| 23:19.04 | Snago | good to know. luckily the order is not important for me this time :) |
| 23:20.14 | ckknight | back |
| 23:20.19 | TheKarn | /cheer |
| 23:20.51 | ckknight | kergoth: totally. |
| 23:21.31 | ckknight | Tornhoof: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips#Traversing_over_a_table_with_non-numerical_keys_in_order |
| 23:21.43 | Tornhoof | i know |
| 23:21.56 | Tornhoof | i'm refering to the implode function on that lua-users.org page |
| 23:22.11 | Tornhoof | which is using pairs to concatenate an array of strings |
| 23:22.33 | ckknight | ick |
| 23:22.38 | ckknight | and you should use table.concat anyway |
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| 23:25.18 | Pkekyo | is it possible to make an addon that makes an announcement in different chat-channels immediately after logon? |
| 23:25.22 | ckknight | yes. |
| 23:25.24 | snurre | oh god, such fucking retards.. *sigh* |
| 23:25.38 | snurre | "No GM has told me that standing here on roof is illegal, so I'll do it" |
| 23:25.41 | Pkekyo | ckknight: how? |
| 23:25.47 | ckknight | snurre: lol. |
| 23:26.02 | Amadeo | I think neutral towns should have guards that always kill you |
| 23:26.05 | Pkekyo | snurre: WSG? |
| 23:26.07 | snurre | yeah |
| 23:26.09 | ckknight | Pkekyo: register an event with PLAYER_LOGIN, at which time, SendChatMessage to each channel. |
| 23:26.10 | Amadeo | if you're on a roof, they should fly up and deathtouch you |
| 23:26.14 | Amadeo | haha |
| 23:26.19 | snurre | joined some other guild's premade cause my guild isnt doign anything today |
| 23:26.26 | snurre | took 2 games until they started exploiting |
| 23:26.31 | Amadeo | oh you mean BGs |
| 23:26.35 | Tular | do u guys think outfitter is worth using? Or is it too much of a pig? |
| 23:26.42 | snurre | so told them to fuck off.. now their guild leader offers to gkick them to make up for it :p |
| 23:26.53 | ckknight | pigs get fat |
| 23:26.56 | ckknight | hogs get slaughtered |
| 23:27.14 | Tular | so is there something better? |
| 23:27.59 | [dRaCo] | I'm using ClosetGnome |
| 23:27.59 | Amadeo | What's Outfitter? Like ClosetGnome? |
| 23:28.20 | Amadeo | Guess so! |
| 23:28.39 | Wogroipl | aye, but for one, I like the name ClostGnome waaay better |
| 23:28.47 | [dRaCo] | If so, I would recommend CG... no problems so far |
| 23:28.53 | Ominous | what is the link to the dongle thing? |
| 23:29.03 | Tular | just by it self? or do you use other addons? |
| 23:29.28 | jaete | meh, it seems perl classic causes taint. or at least it looks like that's causing it |
| 23:29.34 | [dRaCo] | CG is the only thing you need to swap Outfits... |
| 23:29.37 | ravagernl | ClosetGnome is great, but I prefer ItemRack and it's custom events , or can CLosetGnome do that too? vhaar? |
| 23:29.44 | jaete | is there any easy(ish) way to tell where taint is coming from? :) |
| 23:29.55 | [dRaCo] | there are plugins for CG to do that |
| 23:30.01 | ravagernl | vhaarr? |
| 23:30.43 | ravagernl | jaete: http://wowace.com/files/TaintChecker/TaintChecker-r18170.zip |
| 23:33.47 | Tular | Does ClosetGnome have a BG outfit? |
| 23:34.10 | vhaarr | ravagernl: yes? |
| 23:34.12 | [dRaCo] | think so... there a BG plugin |
| 23:34.33 | vhaarr | Tular: ClosetGnome_Zone |
| 23:34.46 | ravagernl | vhaarr: can closetgnome equip sets based on events |
| 23:34.58 | vhaarr | ravagernl: no |
| 23:35.05 | vhaarr | ravagernl: But the plugins can. |
| 23:35.09 | ravagernl | itemrack has a custom event maker that I use |
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| 23:35.18 | vhaarr | I'm never going to implement it. |
| 23:35.20 | vhaarr | So use ItemRack. |
| 23:35.30 | ravagernl | I see, so if I want something thats currently not possible I could write a plugin |
| 23:35.34 | vhaarr | yes |
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| 23:35.40 | ravagernl | :) |
| 23:35.43 | vhaarr | Chances are there's already a plugin for it. |
| 23:35.46 | [dRaCo] | hm... is there a plugin to equip stuff on skinning? |
| 23:35.48 | vhaarr | What are you looking for? |
| 23:35.52 | vhaarr | [dRaCo]: yes |
| 23:35.56 | vhaarr | ClosetGnome_Gatherer |
| 23:36.09 | [dRaCo] | does it re-equip the old set afterwards? |
| 23:36.17 | vhaarr | I didn't write it. |
| 23:36.20 | Wogroipl | yes |
| 23:36.22 | Andune | to the original question re: outfitter. I used to use this mod, and while the functionality was great, it was a hog. turning it off saved me frequent GC issues. |
| 23:36.23 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r23280 10Prat/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Prat: Updated locales koKR |
| 23:36.49 | Andune | ClosetGnome is nice, because you can pick and choose which functionality you need by installing the various plugins. |
| 23:36.57 | [dRaCo] | hm, guess I'm gonna check it out. |
| 23:37.26 | Andune | I used to use ItemRack too, but stopped when I switched to FuBar b/c I wasn't aware of it bieng FuBar aware or having a plugin. I think it does these days, but I'm happy with ClosetGnome |
| 23:38.12 | vhaarr | Also, ItemRack isn't cute, ClosetGnome is. |
| 23:38.14 | vhaarr | :D |
| 23:38.16 | ravagernl | Hmm, I think I'm gonna try closetnome and see what it can do |
| 23:38.18 | Matrix110 | Itemrack has so many functions i never even wanted to use and it used 3times the memory of Wardrobe and t10x as much as ClosetGnome |
| 23:38.27 | [dRaCo] | yeah, CG rocks. |
| 23:38.31 | ravagernl | vhaarr: what is wrong with itemrack? |
| 23:38.39 | vhaarr | I don't know, I've never used it. |
| 23:38.43 | Andune | yeah, people seem to like that about it. I get too much spam and turned of the cute phrases. But I give it props for the effort. :) |
| 23:38.55 | vid` | wow |
| 23:38.56 | Matrix110 | THe only think i liked more from ItemRack was the way choosing your gear but thats about it |
| 23:38.58 | vid` | 1680x1050 rocks |
| 23:39.03 | vid` | can actually fit shit on my screen |
| 23:39.04 | vid` | lol |
| 23:39.07 | vid` | lemme post SS now |
| 23:39.12 | vid` | my UI was a nightmare before |
| 23:39.12 | ravagernl | vid`Running that too :P |
| 23:39.13 | kergoth | vhaarr: fyi, noticed what appears to be a cg bug |
| 23:39.16 | vid` | its still not great |
| 23:39.18 | vid` | but better |
| 23:39.32 | vid` | my old UI shots made countless people puke |
| 23:39.33 | vid` | hehe |
| 23:39.38 | kergoth | if you update an existing set and uncheck a slot, so it shouldnt be in the set, but it was in the set previously, itll remain in the set after the update, even though it shouldnt be |
| 23:39.40 | TheKarn | whats this about rocks? |
| 23:39.45 | kergoth | that was worded terribly, but hopefully you got hte point |
| 23:39.45 | Andune | vid: the worst part of my UI in the past was all the unit frames. Grid has done wonders to clean that mess up. |
| 23:39.51 | vhaarr | kergoth: indeed, I got it |
| 23:39.55 | kergoth | k, cool |
| 23:40.07 | vhaarr | I can confirm that just going through the code in my head. |
| 23:40.08 | ravagernl | vhaarr, actually what itemrack makes unique was a sort of autobar for your equipment, if a plugin could be written for closetgnome |
| 23:40.09 | vhaarr | I think you're right. |
| 23:40.21 | vhaarr | ravagernl: SwapMagic is in the SVN. |
| 23:40.28 | ravagernl | :o |
| 23:40.34 | Andune | kergoth: I assume you mean ClosetGnome? Yeah that's my biggest complaint about it. I wish the editing of sets was differnet than just making a new one and naming it the same. |
| 23:40.45 | vhaarr | I'm going to fix the set editing some day. |
| 23:40.48 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 23:40.48 | Andune | but it's a minor nit for me, I don't really change sets that often. |
| 23:40.49 | kergoth | swapmagic doesnt replace itemrack's autobar like bar, just the ability to mouse over slots in the character panel to change whats in them |
| 23:41.07 | Andune | and looky there, vhaarr's gonna fix it someday anyway :) |
| 23:41.13 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:41.15 | vhaarr | kergoth: Yeah, I've pestered fth|eagle to fix that, but I think he's busy with othehr st |
| 23:41.19 | vhaarr | other stuff |
| 23:42.02 | vhaarr | he has confirmed that he wants that feature though |
| 23:42.04 | ravagernl | hmm, if I install CG_mount I can ditch mountme |
| 23:42.10 | vhaarr | he'd probably approve a patch |
| 23:42.34 | Matrix110 | Adune does grid has any form of displaying cursed targets in a color like red and displaying oor targets with higher transparency? |
| 23:42.35 | pastamancer | doh, no esES translations in Babble-Spell |
| 23:42.41 | Matrix110 | using sRaidFrames atm |
| 23:42.45 | Andune | matrix110: oh yeah. |
| 23:43.01 | Ominous | how do you update an entire folder if everything in it is an svn working copy? |
| 23:43.01 | Matrix110 | hmm i think ill try it |
| 23:43.03 | Andune | matrix110: Grid is a bit intimdating at first, read the Wiki to learn how to use it. |
| 23:43.18 | Antiarc | Ominous: svn up |
| 23:43.23 | Andune | matrix110: but once you get used it, it friggen rocks. So much information condensed into such little real estate. Very nice. |
| 23:43.26 | kergoth | grid can show whatever you want however you want it |
| 23:43.31 | Matrix110 | well i dont need much information |
| 23:43.37 | Matrix110 | i need cursed or not and oor or not:P |
| 23:43.48 | kergoth | then dont show the stuff you dont want, its incredibly flexible |
| 23:43.55 | Matrix110 | perfect |
| 23:43.57 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan * r23281 10Bits/Bits-1.0/Bits-1.0.lua: |
| 23:43.57 | CIA-17 | Bits: |
| 23:43.57 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.57 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.57 | ravagernl | how can you hug a grid lol, should be a bit cold IMHO |
| 23:44.07 | Andune | Martix110: you could also look into SmartDebuff if you don't care about anything else. |
| 23:44.24 | Matrix110 | hmm |
| 23:44.38 | Matrix110 | i checkout Grid i buff with raidframes sometimes aswell |
| 23:44.43 | Andune | it actually looks about the same as Grid, but ALL it does is show debuff and a giant "L" or "R" for left/right click to cure |
| 23:44.45 | kergoth | methinks when i hit the 5th row of tabs in firefox/tabmix its time to clean up |
| 23:45.04 | Andune | ah yeah if you're doing mor ethan just decursing, Grid is the way to go :) |
| 23:45.18 | Matrix110 | how much memory it uses? |
| 23:45.34 | Funkeh` | 102mb |
| 23:45.38 | Matrix110 | Oo |
| 23:45.48 | Matrix110 | bit much! |
| 23:46.17 | Andune | honestly? I haven't checked. my biggest concern is load time. too many mods makes for slow loading/switching chars. In that respect, it's actually one of the slower loaders. But I wouldn't give it up even if it took twice as long. |
| 23:46.22 | ckknight | gawd, just buy more ram |
| 23:46.23 | vid` | hmmmmmmmm |
| 23:46.24 | vid` | http://a980.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/39/l_82f8b33276d74ca397b82e15cd5a6933.jpg |
| 23:46.26 | vid` | myspace scalled it |
| 23:46.27 | ckknight | I have mem why not use it |
| 23:46.28 | Funkeh` | somone explain it, i cba |
| 23:46.29 | vid` | but you get the idea |
| 23:46.30 | Andune | 102mb LOL! |
| 23:46.56 | vid` | autobar isnt centered yet |
| 23:46.57 | vid` | 'lol |
| 23:46.58 | vid` | f it |
| 23:47.17 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle * r23282 10Baggins/Baggins-frFR.lua: Baggins: added french translations (90% of them, including all required ones) |
| 23:47.52 | ckknight | woo, got my Core 2 Duo to get up to 100% on each core, finally |
| 23:48.04 | vid` | lol |
| 23:48.05 | Tular | Can you rename outfits in ClosetGnome? |
| 23:48.05 | vid` | i havent yet |
| 23:48.06 | vid` | :( |
| 23:48.13 | vid` | c2d was made for multimon tho~ |
| 23:48.25 | vid` | http://www.saecula.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=117 |
| 23:48.27 | ckknight | vid`: ? |
| 23:48.27 | vid` | there you go :) |
| 23:48.30 | vid` | thats my current ui |
| 23:48.35 | vid` | oh ck i mean for multitasking |
| 23:48.38 | vid` | playing wow on one monitor |
| 23:48.41 | vid` | watching dvd's on 2nd |
| 23:48.42 | vid` | hehe |
| 23:48.44 | ckknight | ah, right |
| 23:48.45 | vid` | or playing 2 games at once |
| 23:48.48 | vid` | !~ |
| 23:48.54 | Adirelle-Hom1 | ckknight: plz feel free to comment what I tried to do on GloryLib (in branch french-loc), but not know, i'm going to sleep |
| 23:48.55 | Adirelle-Hom1 | cya |
| 23:48.55 | ckknight | or parallel compiling :-P |
| 23:48.57 | vid` | xbox360 while honor farming |
| 23:49.01 | *** part/#wowace Adirelle-Hom1 (n=Guillaum@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:49.13 | vid` | so anyone want to make fun of my UI this time? |
| 23:49.19 | vid` | i dunno if anyone remembers my nightmare UI from last time |
| 23:49.20 | Andune | Matrix110: Grid uses 336kb to load. no idea how much it uses in a full raid of 40. |
| 23:49.26 | Matrix110 | k thanks |
| 23:49.30 | ravagernl | vid` you probably just did a garbage collection :P |
| 23:49.55 | vid` | no i didnt |
| 23:49.56 | ravagernl | what are you using to display the reagents on the actionbars? |
| 23:50.02 | vid` | im getting 0.5KiB/sec |
| 23:50.03 | vid` | atm |
| 23:50.06 | vid` | idling in AV |
| 23:50.10 | vid` | 0.4 now |
| 23:50.11 | vid` | :P |
| 23:50.12 | vid` | 0.3 |
| 23:50.13 | vid` | woo |
| 23:50.20 | vid` | and i got 160+ mods :P |
| 23:50.28 | vid` | thats proof how awesome ace is |
| 23:50.34 | vid` | cause about 150 of them are ace |
| 23:50.34 | vid` | hehe |
| 23:50.45 | vid` | ravage hmm |
| 23:50.47 | vid` | i cant remember :) |
| 23:50.54 | kebinusan | Your mutant hamster army would not be able to penetrate our roving net of arachnoid, sentient-robot flamethrowers, which exist for the sole purpose of crawling and setting things on fire. We have already run exhaustive simulations and scenarios, so you will find us quite prepared for your so-called 'onslaught'. |
| 23:51.00 | kebinusan | I love tseric somedays |
| 23:51.08 | Gagorian | vid`: is that my addon? :P |
| 23:51.17 | ckknight | kebinusan: link? |
| 23:51.17 | Fisker- | I don't make love to men lol |
| 23:51.22 | vid` | gagorian which one? |
| 23:51.23 | kebinusan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62186426&pageNo=2&sid=1#23 |
| 23:51.33 | Gagorian | damage on actionbar |
| 23:51.35 | vid` | drdamage? |
| 23:51.36 | vid` | hehe |
| 23:51.36 | vid` | yea |
| 23:51.43 | Gagorian | looks rather nice on the rounded buttons |
| 23:51.45 | vid` | i dunno what the reagents are though |
| 23:51.45 | Tular | Anyone know if you can you rename outfits in ClosetGnome? |
| 23:51.46 | ravagernl | tekkub, can you please make Squeenix alter the location of the buttons around the minimap? |
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| 23:52.08 | vid` | btw gagorian, if you look at my SS, you notice the rank 1 frostbolt has nod mg on it |
| 23:52.23 | vid` | on the right side action bars @ top left |
| 23:52.25 | Gagorian | Haven't added it |
| 23:52.28 | vid` | ahh k :P |
| 23:52.32 | ravagernl | vid`is it lern2count maybe? |
| 23:52.40 | Gagorian | I mostly have added spells from 40+ |
| 23:52.43 | vid` | yesss |
| 23:52.45 | vid` | thats it ravagernl |
| 23:52.54 | ravagernl | :o |
| 23:53.04 | vid` | man i love multimonitor |
| 23:53.15 | TheKarn | lol vid` |
| 23:53.45 | TheKarn | i have IRC and gtalk on one screen and Stargate Atlantis S01E01 on the other |
| 23:54.08 | Gagorian | s01e01 is so 2004 or something :( |
| 23:54.17 | TheKarn | lol i'm a little behind |
| 23:54.29 | TheKarn | i start with SG1 S01E01 around 5 weeks ago |
| 23:54.45 | beerke | BW Onyxia DB trigger doesn't work |
| 23:55.07 | TheKarn | you know ... just before my exams ... great move that was |
| 23:55.18 | Gagorian | TheKarn: haha, has happened to me too... |
| 23:55.40 | KarlThePagan | this whole ace vs nonace debate some people (cogwh) have sounds very similar to the assembly vs C vs C++ arguments of old... |
| 23:55.55 | KarlThePagan | you think people could learn from history |
| 23:56.19 | Tular | How do you edit sets in ClosetGnome? |
| 23:56.33 | [Ammo] | add same name again edits it |
| 23:57.54 | Tular | yeah, but what if its a partial set? You have to remember everything? |
| 23:58.33 | [Ammo] | euhm, I switch into the set |
| 23:58.38 | [Ammo] | swap items I want swapping |
| 23:58.43 | [Ammo] | and then add the same set again |
| 23:58.50 | Tular | hmmm, outfitter seems to have a lot more features |
| 23:58.55 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r23283 10Fence/ (Core.lua modules/Fence_Clicks.lua): |
| 23:58.55 | CIA-17 | Fence: |
| 23:58.55 | CIA-17 | - Core: added simple version to DB |
| 23:58.55 | CIA-17 | - Clicks: now hides and disables commands for AutoFill and Search module when those are disabled or deleted. |
| 23:59.14 | [Ammo] | then use outfitter shrug |
| 23:59.20 | [Ammo] | no-one forces you into anything :) |
| 23:59.40 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07Rabbit * r23284 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFu.lua: |
| 23:59.40 | CIA-17 | FuBar_GroupFu: |
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