| 00:00.02 | vhaarr | I'm going to fix proper set editing some day, but don't hold your breath. |
| 00:00.17 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r23285 10RaidInfo/common/Comm.lua: |
| 00:00.17 | CIA-17 | RaidInfo: |
| 00:00.17 | CIA-17 | - dumb dumb dumb, I assumed GetTime() returned server time not local that made a lot of errors unless you play with a raid fully time synchronized ;). Fixed now I think :) |
| 00:00.21 | Tular | im not bitching, just trying to do a cost/benifit |
| 00:00.35 | vhaarr | beerke: Even after my fix today? |
| 00:01.05 | vhaarr | Tular: The ability to edit sets is a cost/benefit thing I have to consider for implementation as well. |
| 00:01.10 | vhaarr | I'm not sure it's worth it at all. |
| 00:01.21 | vhaarr | But I'm leaning towards implementing it. |
| 00:01.34 | Tular | vhaarr: cool |
| 00:01.39 | Andune | Tular: it seems so on the surface. But how many of those features do you really use? Anyway, I couldn't stand the memleaking anymore. |
| 00:01.42 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: add an 'update 'blah'' option |
| 00:01.46 | [Ammo] | so I don't have to type the name again |
| 00:01.50 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: yeah, hehe |
| 00:02.00 | [Ammo] | will make most of the people happy :) |
| 00:02.24 | Tular | Andune: I edit sets a lot, I get a lot of new gear |
| 00:02.34 | kergoth | indeed. i'd even be happy if it was an "add/update" option that prefilled hte text box with the current equipped set name |
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| 00:02.53 | [Ammo] | I agree kergoth :) |
| 00:02.55 | TheKarn | kergoth i can adapt a small bit of code to do that ;) |
| 00:03.06 | [Ammo] | anyway |
| 00:03.08 | vhaarr | I think I'm going to add that just as a shift-click on the wear menu or something. |
| 00:03.13 | [Ammo] | time for baby, wife and bed |
| 00:03.18 | vhaarr | have fun ammop |
| 00:03.20 | vhaarr | -p |
| 00:03.23 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: I use the rightclick menu most of the time |
| 00:03.24 | Ominous | what is the slash command to dismiss pet |
| 00:03.26 | [Ammo] | make sure it's in there too :) |
| 00:03.29 | Andune | it'd be most useful if it started with the green boxes selected from the curent set as well |
| 00:03.39 | [Ammo] | o/~ |
| 00:03.41 | Andune | for doing partial sets, ie. just swapping weapons and leaving armor alone |
| 00:03.44 | vhaarr | Andune: I know, that's proper editing. |
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| 00:04.23 | Ominous | [Ammo]: 2 things, is it possible to have a 2 line candy bar and 2) what makes oRA unable to be made LOD? |
| 00:04.38 | TheKarn | Ominous, a 2 line candybar? |
| 00:04.40 | vhaarr | oRA can be LoD. |
| 00:04.44 | Andune | indeed. :) I know you're weighing cost/benefit for everything, so just adding my 2 cents that it would be a highly desirable feature from the user perspective. :) |
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| 00:04.49 | vhaarr | Just run the BAT file. |
| 00:04.50 | Toadkiller | what like a twix? |
| 00:04.53 | kagaro | hello |
| 00:05.04 | Ominous | like mobname top line, spell bottom |
| 00:05.12 | vhaarr | Andune: Indeed, I'm most likely going to implement it, but not today. |
| 00:05.16 | Ominous | and vhaarr: when i try it loads anyway |
| 00:05.18 | TheKarn | you could spawn two at the same time |
| 00:05.23 | vhaarr | Ominous: okay |
| 00:05.34 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r23286 10AutoBar/ (5 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 00:05.34 | CIA-17 | AutoBar: |
| 00:05.34 | CIA-17 | -- 2.00.00.17 beta |
| 00:05.34 | CIA-17 | -- Upgraded right click spell casts to show spell icon if no such item in inventory. Should now work for all summoned mounts and travel forms, mana & health stones, conjured food & water. |
| 00:05.34 | CIA-17 | -- Right Click to feed pet for Food: Pet Bread / Cheese / Fish / Fruit / Fungus / Meat added. No hunter so not tested... |
| 00:05.39 | CIA-17 | -- Right Click to target pet option for slot should now work again as well. No hunter so not tested... |
| 00:05.41 | CIA-17 | -- Renamed profile "Single Setup" to "Single (Classic) Setup" |
| 00:05.58 | Andune | vhaarr: sounds good. I'll keep using it and look forward the WAU update someday that magically turns that feature on. :) :) |
| 00:06.08 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 00:06.42 | Ominous | any ideas? |
| 00:07.21 | pastamancer | anyone using the esES client? |
| 00:07.26 | kergoth | feed pet in autobar? slick |
| 00:07.49 | kergoth | meh, dont suppose anyone happens to know of any full time telecommute embedded linux opportunities that they arent taking :P |
| 00:08.57 | Toadkiller | kergoth: yeah it used to & now it does again on right click |
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| 00:09.19 | Toadkiller | hehe assuming i wrote some lucky lines of code. no hunter to test with |
| 00:14.58 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.46 | groll | night all.. sleepytime |
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| 00:18.26 | kergoth | ckknight: nice |
| 00:19.02 | Matrix110 | ckknight you lie in the Licence.txt ! |
| 00:19.03 | kenlyric|home | I never thought to ask before, but can KC_Items distinguish between faction auction houses? |
| 00:19.13 | ckknight | Matrix110: do I? |
| 00:19.20 | Matrix110 | ye |
| 00:19.26 | Matrix110 | there is no version of the GPL included |
| 00:19.26 | Matrix110 | :-( |
| 00:19.39 | Matrix110 | atleast @carthographer |
| 00:19.46 | ckknight | Matrix110: ah, if it's not included, you can write to the FSF. |
| 00:20.02 | Matrix110 | just add the link aswell:P |
| 00:20.25 | ckknight | frankly, doing anymore is merely licensorial masturbation. Not like anyone will ever get sued. You know I'm using GPL, I leave a stub for it, that should be enough |
| 00:20.29 | Kirkburn | That's like 16 addons to change :P |
| 00:20.57 | kergoth | ckknight: the issue there is multiple versions of the gpl. what version does licence.txt specify specifically? |
| 00:21.06 | Matrix110 | 2.0 |
| 00:21.07 | ckknight | v2 or later |
| 00:21.19 | kergoth | i wouldnt recommend using the 'or later' blurb |
| 00:21.23 | ckknight | I list the version explicitly |
| 00:21.26 | kergoth | good |
| 00:21.32 | beerke | vhaarr, yes i just did ony and i updated BW before and it didn't work |
| 00:21.43 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r23287 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Fix the Fizzle disabling, *again*. phyber you nitwit :P |
| 00:21.43 | ckknight | kergoth: the notion behind the or later is that if a later version comes that I don't like, I can still use v2. |
| 00:21.49 | vhaarr | beerke: gah |
| 00:21.55 | Troox | 04•10ckknight04• hi, do you know that HonurFu shows wrong event information? |
| 00:21.57 | vhaarr | beerke: give me the combat log message |
| 00:22.01 | Matrix110 | either version 2 |
| 00:22.01 | Matrix110 | of the License, or (at your option) any later version. |
| 00:22.20 | vhaarr | Troox: Don't spam us with those colors codes, please. |
| 00:22.25 | kergoth | ckknight: no, the blurbs that state that leave it in the hands of the user, not you |
| 00:22.32 | Troox | oups, sorry... old invision installation |
| 00:22.43 | ckknight | right, and the user could upgrade with v3, and if I want to include his work, I'd have to make it v3 |
| 00:22.54 | ckknight | but if I were to be adamantly opposed, I would keep releasing as v2. |
| 00:22.59 | kergoth | the point is, the fsf could say, oh fuck it, the user can steal it and not releas it just fine |
| 00:23.07 | kergoth | and then they can choose to use htat version, and you'll never see their changes |
| 00:23.19 | kergoth | its silly giving the fsf that much control imo |
| 00:23.29 | ckknight | kergoth: frankly, I just don't care that much... I don't see the code lasting more than a few years. |
| 00:23.35 | ckknight | if that |
| 00:23.58 | kergoth | just like leaving out copyright statements or not including a license at all, not paying attention to such things is a bad habit to develop |
| 00:24.08 | kergoth | whether its applicable here or not |
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| 00:25.35 | ckknight | I followed the FSF's "how to apply this to your program" dealy |
| 00:25.49 | ckknight | I guess I'm just not worried that much. |
| 00:26.11 | phyber | vhaarr: ? |
| 00:26.24 | phyber | vhaarr: what did I change to break the disabling? |
| 00:26.37 | kergoth | 16:30:48 < lhf> -Lua anecdote: today a coworker at IMPA asked me help: his program was reading a 10Mb file, on byte at a time, and it took too long. My nop program took 9 secs. His full program took over 3 minutes. |
| 00:26.41 | kergoth | 16:31:35 < lhf> -It turned out that he was printing a progress indicator such as 2% for every byte read and *this* was takiing most of the time! |
| 00:28.20 | vhaarr | phyber: I have no idea, but now I have to manually call HideBorders and UpdateItems. |
| 00:28.33 | Tular | Is there anyway to get ClosetGnome to autoswitch when I change druid forms? |
| 00:28.43 | phyber | vhaarr: weird. I didn't change Fizzle. Only Inspect.lua has changed recently. |
| 00:28.45 | vhaarr | Tular: ClosetGnome_Switcher |
| 00:28.50 | vhaarr | phyber: okay |
| 00:28.51 | kergoth | Tular: ClosetGnome_Switcher |
| 00:28.53 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:29.52 | beerke | vhaarr, don't have any combat log message as i use scl |
| 00:30.00 | vhaarr | beerke: alright |
| 00:30.04 | phyber | oh, the method of creating borders in Fizzle changed. but it was after that that I tried the new CG with Fizzle, and it worked fine. |
| 00:30.30 | Tular | Does ClosetGnome_Gatherer work with skinning? or just herbs? |
| 00:30.56 | Wogroipl | skinning too |
| 00:30.57 | ckknight | (works with your mom) |
| 00:31.12 | Tular | Wogroipl: thanks |
| 00:31.21 | Wogroipl | you have tp name a set Skinning |
| 00:31.26 | Wogroipl | to* |
| 00:31.55 | vid` | hmm |
| 00:32.03 | vid` | anyone know what what happened to the clipping in aguf onnames? |
| 00:32.14 | vid` | cause i cant see mobhealth 3 data anymore |
| 00:32.24 | vid` | it crunches all the text in the bar :P |
| 00:32.34 | vid` | it used to show like half the name and then ... |
| 00:32.36 | vid` | dunno what i did |
| 00:32.51 | vid` | for target window |
| 00:32.55 | Wogroipl | heh, it does the same for me |
| 00:34.03 | Tular | hmm, it seems like the instnace maps in Cartographer are messed up |
| 00:34.05 | Tular | like the location of the bosses are shifted |
| 00:34.41 | kergoth | ckknight: have you measured the overhead introduced by aceevent? i'm sure its low, but i implemented exactly whats in the tip you linked in kenergy to do the unit_energy timing, since i wanted as little overhead as possible to affect the numbers |
| 00:34.51 | kergoth | didnt measure, just did it, and am curious if it really wouldve been a factor |
| 00:35.10 | ckknight | kergoth: the overhead is really damn low, actually |
| 00:35.27 | ckknight | but if you need as much speed as possible, do it manually. |
| 00:35.33 | ckknight | that's true for pretty much anything. |
| 00:35.49 | ckknight | I'll keep using AceEvent-2.0 |
| 00:36.33 | ckknight | what AceEvent-2.0 does is loops through all the addons that use it and safecalls the function |
| 00:36.52 | ckknight | there's also the case if someone has registered all events (if not, then it's just one if statement lost) |
| 00:37.13 | ckknight | and also if you want the event unregistered upon firing (which if not, one if statement lost) |
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| 00:37.33 | ckknight | the biggest overhead would be the safecall, which adds an extra function call and if statement |
| 00:37.37 | ckknight | that's about it. |
| 00:38.06 | ckknight | so despite the low overhead, the overhead still exists |
| 00:38.11 | kergoth | safecall does a pcall right? yea thats a little overhead, though not too much |
| 00:38.12 | vid` | ag herehmm |
| 00:38.14 | ckknight | just not painful |
| 00:38.18 | vid` | nope hes not doh |
| 00:38.36 | ckknight | kergoth: safecall is just a name I use for pcall + check, if bad, then do the geterrorhandler thing |
| 00:38.45 | kergoth | probably most is if multiple addons have that event registered, that overhead being in lua instead of the blizz C |
| 00:38.53 | ckknight | basically. |
| 00:39.15 | ckknight | also, AceEvent-2.0 allows for nice things like buckets and whatnot. |
| 00:39.27 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r23288 10AutoBar/AutoBarProfile.lua: |
| 00:39.27 | CIA-17 | AutoBar: |
| 00:39.27 | CIA-17 | -Fix bug in Mage conjure code |
| 00:39.33 | kergoth | what sucks is that they're run in series, so other slow addon event handlers will likely increase the overhead for the event, whether its in lua or not |
| 00:39.42 | kergoth | cant be helped without locking though, so dont blame em |
| 00:40.11 | ckknight | right |
| 00:40.13 | kergoth | ah well |
| 00:40.23 | vid` | hmm |
| 00:40.24 | Barbanus | Someoen a couple weeks ago gave me a cool script to show me what frame was under my mouse but invisible.... |
| 00:40.26 | Barbanus | Anyone know? |
| 00:40.30 | vid` | i started freezing again when people join/leave raids |
| 00:40.31 | vid` | wtfux |
| 00:40.35 | Antiarc | /dump GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 00:40.37 | ckknight | I should audit Ace2 again, see if I can make anything more efficient. |
| 00:40.37 | KarlThePagan | I would only not use AceEvent for benchmarking |
| 00:40.50 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, I can deffinately contribute to improving ParserLib |
| 00:40.52 | ckknight | I also fully recommend other people audit libraries and addons if they have time. |
| 00:41.04 | Tular | vhaarr: do you think you could add the Druid tree form and prowl? |
| 00:41.09 | Barbanus | Hmmm its the aguf bug, its back .. lemme update |
| 00:41.16 | ckknight | and not just their own stuff, sometimes you need a different pair of eyes to see the bugs |
| 00:41.17 | KarlThePagan | the problem with parser is the huge amount of work contributed to the localization |
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| 00:41.28 | vhaarr | Tular: yeah, hm. |
| 00:41.38 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: is Parser-2.0 existing or what's the deal with that? |
| 00:41.44 | Barbanus | Thanks Antiarc btw |
| 00:41.46 | ckknight | cause if it's not, I may be able to write it... |
| 00:42.19 | KarlThePagan | let me be sure I'm talking aout the right one |
| 00:42.30 | Tular | vhaarr: thanks! |
| 00:43.14 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: I had thought people were still stuck on ParserLib-1.0 |
| 00:43.17 | kergoth | man, i lvoe the CLoseUp addon |
| 00:43.33 | kergoth | even made the player model in the character page not suck, no more silly left and right rotate buttons |
| 00:44.02 | KarlThePagan | yea ck I see that, but in general the efficiency of perser's algorithms could be looked at |
| 00:44.31 | vhaarr | Tular: You've got to help me. |
| 00:44.32 | KarlThePagan | if you peek at MSBT he does some creative things... like he defines a "rarest word" and looks for that first using gfind |
| 00:44.39 | vhaarr | Tular: Activate tree form and do /print ClosetGnomeSwitcher:GetCurrentShapeshiftForm() |
| 00:44.40 | Tular | vhaarr: You are also missing the Aquatic form, but I dont care about that |
| 00:44.48 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: hrm. |
| 00:44.56 | Tular | vhaarr: k |
| 00:45.19 | Tular | "Tree of Life" |
| 00:45.28 | vhaarr | right |
| 00:45.47 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, I think it would be fabulous to have something which deformats the combat events |
| 00:46.39 | ckknight | so we could steal the basic algorithm and make it genericized... |
| 00:47.04 | KarlThePagan | yea and then let whoever wants to write their own dps-meter etc addons |
| 00:47.33 | ckknight | basically. |
| 00:47.38 | kergoth | should talk to mikord, see if he'll assist or cooperate on it |
| 00:47.41 | kergoth | worth a shot anyway |
| 00:47.47 | KarlThePagan | deffinately |
| 00:47.48 | ckknight | and then even offer it to mikord to sus |
| 00:48.02 | ckknight | use* |
| 00:48.07 | pastamancer | Saroz: ping |
| 00:48.08 | ckknight | right, cooperation |
| 00:48.12 | KarlThePagan | he might... if we get it fully localized ;) |
| 00:48.18 | ckknight | keep forgetting, it's still quite an alien concept |
| 00:48.18 | KarlThePagan | that seems to be his roadblock |
| 00:48.21 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 00:48.26 | kergoth | start communications early, thats the best bet. i've worked with enough upstream open source developers, trust me on that. the earlier the communications on a major feature collaboration like that, the better |
| 00:48.34 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: note: we can steal code from Deformat, I've made it a lot nicer since 2.0 |
| 00:48.38 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r23289 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ (Locale-enUS.lua Modules/Druid.lua): ClosetGnome_Switcher: Add Tree of Life set for druids. |
| 00:48.39 | vhaarr | Tular: Update now. |
| 00:48.40 | Miles | MSBT? |
| 00:48.52 | kergoth | ~msbt |
| 00:48.58 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, msbt is Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html |
| 00:48.58 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23290 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism: added scaing and icon alpha |
| 00:49.00 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: I'll leave it up to you to contact Mikord, but feel free to tell him that I'm involved |
| 00:49.03 | Toadkiller | speaking of auditing code etc: how come ace2 makes me specify ace2 again if I want to list the ace2 mods? Its not like the ace1 mods can work anymore... |
| 00:49.10 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r23291 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: -Added nearly all missing frFR and deDE translations to Babble-Spell-2.2 |
| 00:49.19 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, sure... it'll be my next project after Grouper |
| 00:49.27 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: Sure they can. |
| 00:49.28 | ckknight | sounds good |
| 00:49.33 | kergoth | Toadkiller: ace1 stuff can work. bulkmail still uses it still for acegui |
| 00:49.35 | ckknight | Gagorian: good work |
| 00:49.39 | kergoth | not particularly well i'm sure, but.. |
| 00:49.42 | Nomad_Wanderer | Anyone know how to seperate a stack in baggins? They automatically recombine. |
| 00:50.00 | Gagorian | ckknight: Thanks. Gonna look through now what keys are still missing from talents |
| 00:50.09 | ckknight | Gagorian: :-) |
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| 00:51.08 | phyber | vhaarr: did you change the way that CG opens the charframe at all? |
| 00:51.17 | Tular | vhaarr: another suggestion would be to print a message to the center of the screen when an outfit is loaded, i.e. "<outfit> loaded |
| 00:51.26 | Tular | vhaarr: but just a suggestion |
| 00:51.27 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23292 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua: Cartographer_Stats: fixed a typo with the mouse click handling |
| 00:51.28 | vhaarr | phyber: Not since it was committed, no. |
| 00:51.37 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: I'd say contact him ASAP, even if we don't start right away. |
| 00:51.40 | Toadkiller | ugh |
| 00:51.47 | Miles | urgh |
| 00:51.48 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, sure |
| 00:51.52 | Miles | single space indenting? wtf |
| 00:51.59 | ckknight | Miles: ew |
| 00:52.13 | phyber | vhaarr: hmm. |
| 00:52.14 | Toadkiller | np, just make the type real huge |
| 00:52.16 | kergoth | sheesh, i've done 2 space, but 1 is just excessive (though i personally prefer 4) |
| 00:52.25 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23293 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer: fixed a typo in notes for icon scaling/alpha test |
| 00:53.02 | ckknight | kergoth: 4 ftw |
| 00:53.36 | vhaarr | I've done 2, 3 and 4. I like using 2 for HTML. |
| 00:53.45 | ckknight | 0 for HTML |
| 00:53.47 | ckknight | shazam! |
| 00:54.09 | ckknight | or just random indenting |
| 00:54.09 | kagaro | crap *slaps forhead* |
| 00:54.13 | ckknight | like all the cool kids |
| 00:54.15 | ckknight | kagaro: hrm? |
| 00:54.27 | kagaro | forgot to localize the herbalism menu change |
| 00:54.37 | ckknight | kagaro: btw, make the commit note say Cartographer-Notes next time, to show the module |
| 00:54.43 | pastamancer | ckknight: random indenting is awesome! |
| 00:54.55 | ckknight | pastamancer: *shudder* |
| 00:55.04 | kagaro | ok, wasnt sure the prefilter would let it in |
| 00:55.12 | kergoth | i've been tempted so many times to suggest that clad include a pre commit trigger based on an svn attribute to check for inconsistent indentation |
| 00:55.23 | kergoth | :P |
| 00:55.25 | ckknight | lol. |
| 00:55.34 | kergoth | wouldnt be hard to write either |
| 00:55.44 | ckknight | Kael runs the SVN now, afaik |
| 00:55.44 | pastamancer | ckknight: I should write some elisp to randomly indent all my files before comitting and then fix the indenting while I'm working on them |
| 00:56.04 | ckknight | pastamancer: that's like obfuscation through people being too pissed off to work on it. |
| 00:56.12 | pastamancer | ckknight: and how! |
| 00:56.18 | ckknight | lol. |
| 00:56.57 | kergoth | would need a good 4 parameters in an attribute. ts=4 sw=4 sts=0 et, do it in vim format, condensed and easily parsed |
| 00:58.08 | Antiarc | Almost as bad, we used to have a guy at work that wrote all his code in caps, and indented with a single space. |
| 00:58.12 | Antiarc | I have to maintain his code |
| 00:58.16 | Antiarc | It makes me see red. |
| 00:58.29 | Antiarc | The caps make me feel like he's yelling at me from beyond the pink slip. |
| 00:58.41 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:58.52 | kergoth | gasp! i've forgotten to check thedailywtf lately |
| 00:59.59 | Hjalte | Kemayo: Seen this? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6678-CartographerQuests.html |
| 01:00.28 | ckknight | ooh, cool |
| 01:00.37 | kergoth | teehee, http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/109402.aspx |
| 01:00.52 | kergoth | Hjalte: neat! |
| 01:01.18 | ckknight | Kodewulf: cool mod |
| 01:01.19 | Hjalte | kergoth: I havent tested it out yet.. I don't know exactly what it does. |
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| 01:02.46 | kergoth | meh, headache |
| 01:02.51 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23294 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining: added scaing and icon alpha\n and new icon for rich thorium |
| 01:03.15 | ckknight | I wonder if people realize that Cartographer modules have to be GPL'd yet... |
| 01:03.23 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:03.32 | Fisker- | y helo thar? |
| 01:03.49 | ckknight | hey Fisker- |
| 01:03.55 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23295 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism: fixed localization in menu |
| 01:04.24 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 01:04.33 | Fisker- | Who's my mother and my neighbour? :O |
| 01:06.18 | kagaro | ck: what do you think about adding default POI's ? |
| 01:06.32 | ckknight | kagaro: in a module? sure. |
| 01:06.51 | ckknight | wait, for Mining/Herb/Treasure? |
| 01:06.53 | ckknight | not sure. |
| 01:06.56 | ckknight | maybe. |
| 01:07.02 | ckknight | some people might like it, some might not. |
| 01:07.05 | ckknight | frankly, I would. |
| 01:07.15 | kagaro | for actual POI's like outland areas not readily disernable |
| 01:07.32 | pastamancer | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3911 for anyone interested in poking at the heal communication lib I wrote today |
| 01:07.43 | Hjalte | kagaro: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6674-CartographerScribe.html ? |
| 01:07.45 | ckknight | kagaro: there are ways to make defaults really, really easy |
| 01:07.56 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23296 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: added icon scaling and alpha |
| 01:07.57 | ckknight | like how I do with Foglight |
| 01:08.15 | ckknight | it makes it so stuff not in the defaults gets saved to the SV |
| 01:08.18 | ckknight | but otherwise it stays out |
| 01:08.33 | ckknight | it allows for people to be able to send their SV and it can be added to defaults |
| 01:08.34 | kagaro | Hijate: I spoke with the author of scribe, he was cool with taking his data to put into cart in a more module fashion |
| 01:08.39 | Miles | pastamancer: shiny! giev, for casting bar on incoming heals on tanks |
| 01:08.42 | ckknight | I can work on a proper algorithm of it, if you want, kagaro |
| 01:08.58 | kagaro | ck: yeah that would be cool |
| 01:09.27 | kagaro | ck: they can use noteshare to send an entire zone, then decide to make what they want as defaults |
| 01:09.53 | pastamancer | Miles: please play with it and break things! |
| 01:10.05 | kagaro | i have done a lot of the hellfire penissula quests and the directions were vague |
| 01:10.38 | Kirkburn | Btw, beta patch! |
| 01:10.38 | Miles | pastamancer: no raids atm :< |
| 01:10.38 | ckknight | Kirkburn: fun. |
| 01:10.38 | ckknight | Kirkburn: anybody got a torrent? |
| 01:10.38 | pastamancer | Miles: works in party/raid/bg! |
| 01:10.58 | Kirkburn | What time is it PST? |
| 01:11.13 | gnorlish | 5:12 |
| 01:11.15 | ckknight | 5:11 PM |
| 01:11.16 | Miles | pastamancer: what's the fun if you can't force a whole raid to test your mod? :p |
| 01:11.23 | Kirkburn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62146355&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 01:11.25 | gnorlish | it's almost dark here in LA :( |
| 01:11.31 | Kirkburn | "We are taking down the PTR realms at 1:45 PM PST to perform maintenance and apply a patch. The estimated downtime is 5 hours" |
| 01:11.49 | Miles | bah |
| 01:11.52 | pastamancer | Miles: well, I could just commit my changes to Grid and have hundres of people test it :p |
| 01:11.55 | Miles | all realms are still down |
| 01:12.09 | pastamancer | Miles: EU? |
| 01:12.15 | Miles | EU beta |
| 01:12.34 | Miles | how am I supposed to work on questing guides :/ |
| 01:12.42 | pastamancer | :( I need someone on US to install it so I can verify the comm parsing |
| 01:12.45 | ckknight | Kirkburn: so there's 1 and a half hours left |
| 01:12.51 | KarlThePagan | lol Miles send me your guides |
| 01:12.58 | Kirkburn | ckknight, sounds like it :( |
| 01:12.59 | Miles | http://digibites.net/wiki/hellfire_peninsula_guide |
| 01:13.08 | Miles | plx don't slashdot me :P |
| 01:13.10 | ckknight | cool, Miles |
| 01:13.20 | KarlThePagan | np |
| 01:13.25 | KarlThePagan | it'll be sekrit! |
| 01:13.47 | Kirkburn | No patch download afaik yet |
| 01:13.49 | KarlThePagan | wait... horde or alliance? |
| 01:13.55 | KarlThePagan | Kirkburn, US patch is up |
| 01:14.06 | Miles | alliance. still need a little bit of sorting... Honor hold stuff are mixed in with temple and east |
| 01:14.06 | KarlThePagan | at least the .torrent is available |
| 01:14.10 | Kirkburn | It is? Dayum! |
| 01:14.13 | kagaro | ck: here is a tablet question for you. I have a side tablet up on cart, i wana make the header sections ive got clickable to hide children as a toggle can the category contain the line header information? |
| 01:14.29 | ckknight | kagaro: yes. |
| 01:14.29 | KarlThePagan | oh wow it's a small one Kirkburn ... no torrent |
| 01:14.39 | ckknight | kagaro: :AddCategory is AddLine + other stuff. |
| 01:14.42 | ckknight | for arguments |
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| 01:14.50 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: srsly? |
| 01:14.54 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: patchnotes! |
| 01:15.12 | KarlThePagan | beta doesn't care about patch notes |
| 01:15.35 | Miles | I've no idea where the patcher went... it just installed and went poof |
| 01:15.44 | KarlThePagan | (i.e. same empty box with a link to the thread that's updated hours after the fact) |
| 01:16.11 | KarlThePagan | ohshi forum post |
| 01:16.24 | KarlThePagan | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=560370&sid=1 |
| 01:16.37 | KarlThePagan | no no ... fail |
| 01:16.38 | KarlThePagan | lol |
| 01:16.40 | KarlThePagan | not updated |
| 01:17.14 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: :'( |
| 01:17.34 | Miles | Pets should now be at full life when resurrected in the battlegrounds. |
| 01:17.40 | KarlThePagan | added Bits documentation (partial) |
| 01:17.42 | snurre | meh, wave 75 in that tower defense game |
| 01:17.43 | Miles | damn, giev on live |
| 01:17.45 | KarlThePagan | gotta work on LFG |
| 01:18.09 | kagaro | ck: what is the method on the category object to hide/unhide it ? |
| 01:18.25 | ckknight | kagaro: just don't have any children. |
| 01:18.35 | ckknight | kagaro: the tablet is updated each time a click happens |
| 01:18.45 | ckknight | kagaro: see KungFu for example |
| 01:19.00 | kagaro | can i remove children afterwards? |
| 01:19.27 | kagaro | looking at kungfu now |
| 01:22.56 | kagaro | ahh ok i see how you did it |
| 01:23.27 | Amadeo | I see what you did there |
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| 01:24.11 | KarlThePagan | ck- this is fubar right, you update the tablet before the click tho not after... correct? |
| 01:24.18 | KarlThePagan | and only that table and children |
| 01:25.02 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: after |
| 01:25.13 | KarlThePagan | err ... wiat wiat yea I'm thinking of dewdrop |
| 01:25.17 | ckknight | and all the tablet, since it may affect other things |
| 01:25.26 | KarlThePagan | my bad |
| 01:25.28 | ckknight | Dewdrop also updates after |
| 01:25.32 | KarlThePagan | hmmm |
| 01:25.48 | KarlThePagan | oh I know why mine is funny |
| 01:26.05 | KarlThePagan | it's the result of events... which come in after all of that must be finished |
| 01:26.31 | KarlThePagan | is there some secret method to update my fubar menu as the result of an event? |
| 01:26.32 | pastamancer | wuwu, Grid is now using Healcomm |
| 01:26.38 | KarlThePagan | wuwu |
| 01:26.52 | pastamancer | it's totally EZ |
| 01:27.43 | KarlThePagan | I should look into using dewdrop with how often i'm updating it anyways ;) |
| 01:29.42 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: yea, Dewdrop:Refresh(1) |
| 01:29.46 | *** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-69-244-72-105.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 01:29.51 | Azurewrath | haha http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20061026 |
| 01:29.53 | CIA-17 | 03pastamancer * r23297 10Grid/ (Grid.toc GridStatusHeals.lua libs/ utf8.lua): |
| 01:29.53 | CIA-17 | Grid: |
| 01:29.53 | CIA-17 | - grabs utf8 from externals |
| 01:29.53 | CIA-17 | - updated to use Healcomm |
| 01:29.55 | KarlThePagan | oshi thx man |
| 01:31.15 | Andune | anyone know how I drag the MainTanks frame around for oRA2? |
| 01:31.22 | KarlThePagan | hold alt |
| 01:31.27 | KarlThePagan | out of combat |
| 01:31.28 | Andune | I don't see any 'locked' menu and non of the shift/alt/ctrl combos working.. |
| 01:31.45 | KarlThePagan | on the title above the tanks |
| 01:31.46 | Andune | hmm not working for me :( and not in combat. |
| 01:31.48 | KarlThePagan | :/ |
| 01:31.50 | KarlThePagan | ick |
| 01:32.28 | Andune | not running clique or anything that could be interfering. |
| 01:32.48 | Kemayo | Hey, ckknight, any chance of getting some sort of highlighting of the border when you alt-mouseover a locked tablet? |
| 01:32.52 | Andune | (that I'm aware of, obviously something's causing it not to work :P ) |
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| 01:33.02 | ckknight | Kemayo: ooh, damn nice idea. |
| 01:33.43 | Kemayo | By far my most frequent comment on questsfu is "how do I move the tracker?!?!?" -- it's caused me to think about ways to make it more discoverable. |
| 01:35.02 | Andune | hmm alt-drag works on cooldown. just not MainTank |
| 01:35.25 | Kemayo | Andune -- I'm fairly sure I've alt-dragged it before. You're not in combat? |
| 01:35.56 | Andune | Nope, I'm not. CooldownMonitor works fine. Some problem I have with MainTank window specifically, I guess. |
| 01:35.58 | Thrae | What's the buttons for moving the Grid frames? I have Frame Lock off and I can't do it. |
| 01:36.49 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r23298 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: -Added keys for all missing mage talents (13 talents) and their deDE and frFR localizations |
| 01:36.54 | TheKarn | Ctrl+alt+space+period and the type in the x and y coordinates seventeen and a half time |
| 01:36.57 | Gngsk | Thrae, it's the background, which you might've hidden by changing it's alpha to 0 |
| 01:37.20 | Gagorian | phew |
| 01:37.31 | TheKarn | maybe it should bring the alpha up when unlocked |
| 01:37.36 | TheKarn | to say ... 0.2 |
| 01:37.41 | Gngsk | why? |
| 01:37.47 | Gngsk | you can still move it if the alpha is 0 |
| 01:37.52 | Gngsk | you just have to know where to click :) |
| 01:37.55 | TheKarn | i know but so people know where |
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| 01:38.49 | Thrae | Ah right, thanks |
| 01:41.06 | Amadeo | Alcohol 52% is freeware now |
| 01:41.17 | ckknight | cool |
| 01:41.36 | vid` | alcohol 120 doesnt work wth my new burner |
| 01:41.40 | vid` | samsung 18x |
| 01:41.45 | vid` | :( |
| 01:41.46 | Amadeo | :( |
| 01:41.52 | vid` | just use nero and daemon tools |
| 01:42.00 | vid` | and clonecd for xbox360 :P |
| 01:42.54 | KarlThePagan | I liked alchohol120 |
| 01:42.59 | KarlThePagan | haven't had to use it recently tho |
| 01:43.38 | KarlThePagan | since i started playing wow in fact lol |
| 01:44.44 | kagaro | ck: im getting this error You must add categories in within a registration. when i try to re-draw the side tablet |
| 01:45.01 | ckknight | kagaro: you're not redrawing it correctly |
| 01:45.20 | ckknight | you need to call Tablet:Refresh, not just your updating method |
| 01:45.34 | phyber | Kemayo: massive flashing borders and a huge 20xScale tooltip on mouseover. |
| 01:49.14 | Tular | Anyone else having problems with Cartographer? Its looks like the bosses in the instance maps are shifted |
| 01:49.46 | Wogroipl | Yes me, I noteced on the Wailing Caverns map |
| 01:49.59 | Wogroipl | noticed* |
| 01:50.22 | Wogroipl | all bosses are shifted to the right I think |
| 01:50.44 | ckknight | so fix it. |
| 01:50.53 | ckknight | the maps changed |
| 01:50.55 | ckknight | the notes are off |
| 01:51.04 | TheKarn | ckknight fucked them royally :) |
| 01:51.10 | TheKarn | but ... he did it because he's cool |
| 01:51.14 | ckknight | just like your mom, last night |
| 01:51.17 | KarlThePagan | and the maps are pretty now |
| 01:51.17 | TheKarn | :) |
| 01:51.21 | TheKarn | ckknight, <3 |
| 01:51.29 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: cause it's 25 different textured being pieced together |
| 01:51.43 | ckknight | so it's slow cause Blizz has to load each texture |
| 01:51.53 | ckknight | it's loading the minimap textures from in-game |
| 01:53.52 | kagaro | well got it working like I want to, just ugly ass code I need to refactor bigtime |
| 01:54.50 | KarlThePagan | 11 people in the LFG system on my server right now :P |
| 01:54.53 | KarlThePagan | 11 lol |
| 01:54.56 | TheKarn | whats that kagaro? |
| 01:55.17 | kagaro | in the stats module, i made the stat list for herb and ore collapaseable |
| 01:55.50 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: but if that were decimal and you're converting to binary, that's like 1011 people, wow! |
| 01:56.03 | Gagorian | where can I get a list of \codes for different foreign letters? |
| 01:56.18 | TheKarn | ckknight, you and you're base 2 |
| 01:56.26 | ckknight | your |
| 01:56.32 | TheKarn | damn |
| 01:56.34 | TheKarn | i should sleep |
| 01:56.38 | ckknight | probably |
| 01:56.45 | TheKarn | deffinately |
| 01:56.46 | ckknight | gah, this work sucks |
| 01:56.47 | kagaro | for the tiemstamp tracking thingy people have been asking for ill add it via the stats module so it doesnt clutter up the mine/herb modules |
| 01:56.48 | ckknight | I hate Java |
| 01:56.50 | ckknight | I really do |
| 01:56.54 | TheKarn | Java is easy |
| 01:56.55 | ckknight | I want to do something fun |
| 01:57.01 | TheKarn | lua is more entertaining |
| 01:57.07 | ckknight | like Kaelten's super-secret project |
| 01:57.12 | ckknight | hush hush |
| 01:57.19 | TheKarn | ckknight, i might be working on that |
| 01:57.23 | TheKarn | infact i prbly will be ;) |
| 01:57.30 | ckknight | on Kaelten's project? |
| 01:57.35 | TheKarn | yup |
| 01:57.36 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23299 10Prat/Prat/modules/ (ChatFrames.lua ChatLink.lua ChatTabs.lua): Prat: 3 modules restored |
| 01:57.37 | ckknight | cool |
| 01:57.40 | Trancer | Java is a nice language but can be shit boring if the project is boring :/ |
| 01:58.03 | KarlThePagan | heh |
| 01:58.30 | kagaro | Java can be fun of you get the right job to do with it. like writing raw ethernet frames to a satellite uplink packect injector |
| 01:58.35 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, tell them the one about the 11 kinds of people in the world |
| 01:58.53 | Trancer | 10 kind of people, not 11 |
| 01:58.54 | ckknight | there are 10 kinds of people in the world |
| 01:58.54 | ckknight | those who know binary |
| 01:58.58 | ckknight | and those who have friends. |
| 01:59.03 | KarlThePagan | heh |
| 01:59.11 | Barbanus | I ahve this invisible frame that sits on my characters head "aUFgroupAnchorgroup2" |
| 01:59.22 | TheKarn | no no ... 11 types of people |
| 01:59.32 | KarlThePagan | have you considered overlaying the world minimap? |
| 01:59.35 | KarlThePagan | in carto |
| 01:59.37 | Trancer | if it's invisible, who gives? :p |
| 01:59.38 | TheKarn | those who know binary, those who have friends, and me - who knows binary and has friends. |
| 01:59.44 | Barbanus | Trancer, its clickable ... |
| 01:59.49 | KarlThePagan | it'd be like... google earth for wow |
| 01:59.52 | Barbanus | so my mouselook is broked |
| 01:59.53 | Trancer | can't do that TheKarn, XOR |
| 01:59.59 | Barbanus | when I click there, and mouselook |
| 02:00.23 | kagaro | ok gona go hit the BG's for a bit cya all alter |
| 02:00.54 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: thought of it. |
| 02:00.56 | CIA-17 | 03ag * r23300 10ag_UnitFrames/layouts/ABF.lua: |
| 02:00.56 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 02:00.57 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:01.21 | CIA-17 | 03arjuna * r23301 10FuBar_switcherFu/switcherFu.lua: |
| 02:01.21 | CIA-17 | FuBar_switcherFu |
| 02:01.21 | CIA-17 | - windowed resolutions are now generated |
| 02:01.22 | vid` | zomg |
| 02:01.24 | vid` | ag you here? :P |
| 02:01.26 | KarlThePagan | then people would want to zoom in and pan around |
| 02:01.32 | KarlThePagan | it's just a can of worms ;) |
| 02:02.08 | Gagorian | So there's no list of \codes available for foreign letters and stuff? :( |
| 02:02.48 | CIA-17 | 03ag * r23302 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_GroupClass.lua: |
| 02:02.48 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 02:02.49 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.01 | Barbanus | Woot ag :) |
| 02:03.11 | Barbanus | I'll try it when the zips update |
| 02:04.03 | Fisker- | i won't! |
| 02:04.13 | Gagorian | humm found some. |
| 02:04.23 | KarlThePagan | oshi I should propogate LFG info using acecomm |
| 02:05.31 | Miles | hmm... how does OnEnter work in wow anyway? |
| 02:05.39 | KarlThePagan | that would make lfg-ing in your guild only work nicely |
| 02:05.43 | ckknight | Miles: when your mouse enters the frame, it runs |
| 02:06.06 | KarlThePagan | doesn't count as a click for purposes of some restricted functions |
| 02:06.17 | Miles | it should |
| 02:06.37 | KarlThePagan | I tried updating LFGQuery and in an OnEnter and it sent me addon blocked :( |
| 02:06.45 | Miles | but when I do a SetScript on OnEnter on the agUF XP bar, it never gets run |
| 02:07.00 | ckknight | Miles: you need :EnableMouse(true) |
| 02:07.09 | Miles | thanks, will try that |
| 02:08.05 | pastamancer | ~seen ag` |
| 02:08.37 | purl | ag` <n=ag`@0x535bbf63.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 2h 45m 14s ago, saying: 'so'. |
| 02:08.38 | Tular | Is there anything like WIM but ACE2'ed? |
| 02:08.54 | Miles | ah. the sweet sound of fatality |
| 02:08.55 | ckknight | Tular: Dreamchat? |
| 02:09.01 | TheKarn | lol miles |
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| 02:10.10 | KarlThePagan | Tular, I use HeyFu |
| 02:10.16 | KarlThePagan | it's not the same, but helps |
| 02:10.31 | Tular | ill check them out |
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| 02:13.34 | Tular | I dont see Dreamchat on the download page |
| 02:13.46 | snurre | meh, cant get through wave 75 :( |
| 02:14.49 | Barbanus | So whatever name ag is on, that fix fixed it. |
| 02:15.39 | vid` | did it fix the thing where the target names dont clip? |
| 02:15.50 | vid` | and it overlaps the HP in the bar so you cant read the value :( |
| 02:16.02 | vid` | it used to clip the names of mobs after like 10 chars and put ... |
| 02:16.27 | vid` | now it just lets the whole name fill the bar and it goes over the hp and mobhealth3 vals :( |
| 02:16.33 | Tular | Is there a KTM fubar plugin? |
| 02:16.36 | vid` | yea |
| 02:16.40 | vid` | its on wowinterfac |
| 02:16.44 | vid` | not on svn |
| 02:16.51 | vid` | ktmfu i think its called |
| 02:17.00 | Trancer | also at http://www.wowace.com/files/ afaik |
| 02:17.17 | Trancer | ah no, is bigwigs |
| 02:17.48 | Wogroipl | yes, Fubar_SWStats2Fu on wowace.com/files |
| 02:17.59 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r23303 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: -Added all missing warlock talent keys (9 talents) and their frFR and deDE localizations. |
| 02:18.14 | Wogroipl | omg did I misread something, time for bed me thinks |
| 02:18.20 | Trancer | :p |
| 02:18.54 | Gagorian | lewl, no.. more... french and german.... |
| 02:19.05 | Barbanus | Toadkiller, I'm getting some errors with the latest autobar, do you want me to pastey them? |
| 02:19.47 | TheKarn | omg there is so much Stargate to watch |
| 02:20.22 | KarlThePagan | getting into it TheKarn ? |
| 02:21.23 | TheKarn | lol |
| 02:21.29 | TheKarn | theres so much to watch |
| 02:21.37 | Kemayo | Aw man, my nice sedate server has started having 200+ person queues. |
| 02:21.37 | ckknight | are there any !BugGrabber authors in here? |
| 02:21.46 | vhaarr | me |
| 02:21.48 | TheKarn | 10000 hours just for SG1 |
| 02:22.03 | ckknight | anyone else? I want to LGPL it |
| 02:22.06 | TheKarn | 10 seasons, each one with 22 episodes, each one 45mins long |
| 02:22.07 | Gagorian | 10.000 is a mild over-estimation |
| 02:22.10 | TheKarn | wait ... thats 10000 mins |
| 02:22.12 | TheKarn | lol |
| 02:22.13 | TheKarn | my bad |
| 02:22.29 | Gagorian | 9900 :l |
| 02:22.36 | TheKarn | i approximated |
| 02:22.38 | TheKarn | 165 hours |
| 02:22.47 | TheKarn | 6.875 days |
| 02:22.55 | Gagorian | Well, some consolidation.. there isn't a full 10th season ;) |
| 02:23.08 | TheKarn | Gagorian, they have an 11th on the boad |
| 02:23.10 | TheKarn | afaik |
| 02:23.14 | Gagorian | nah |
| 02:23.17 | Gagorian | It's cancelled |
| 02:23.20 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 02:23.23 | Gagorian | 10th will be the last |
| 02:23.23 | Barbanus | ~seen Toadkiller |
| 02:23.44 | purl | toadkiller is currently on #wowace (2h 19m 40s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 1h 31m 30s, last said: 'np, just make the type real huge'. |
| 02:23.44 | Gagorian | 11 episodes unaired |
| 02:23.44 | haste | I'm not going to figure out how much time I've spent on anime |
| 02:23.49 | Gagorian | Samantha Carter will jump over to atlantis :) |
| 02:24.02 | haste | but I passed the 500+ mark a long time ago :< |
| 02:24.28 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r23304 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-koKR.lua: |
| 02:24.28 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames: |
| 02:24.28 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:24.39 | *** join/#wowace PProvost (n=PProvost@pool-71-112-38-117.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 02:24.39 | *** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ |
| 02:24.56 | ckknight | hey PProvost |
| 02:25.05 | PProvost | hola |
| 02:25.10 | vhaarr | ckknight: Note that the NC-SA license is merely a guideline for BugGrabber and BugSack. |
| 02:25.21 | Fisker- | NC-SA? |
| 02:25.21 | vhaarr | ckknight: It doesn't have to be relicensed, just dual-licensed. |
| 02:25.40 | ckknight | vhaarr: what's the current license? |
| 02:25.45 | ckknight | oh, the CC one? |
| 02:25.45 | PProvost | Hey Fisker- |
| 02:26.01 | ckknight | gah, it'd be easier if it were relicensed, imho. |
| 02:26.12 | vhaarr | ckknight: No, it wouldn't. |
| 02:26.13 | ckknight | if someone wants to branch the CC one, that'd be fine... |
| 02:26.21 | ckknight | seriously? |
| 02:26.21 | Soulless | how do you call an emote with a script? |
| 02:26.25 | ckknight | why wouldn't it? |
| 02:27.23 | vhaarr | ckknight: You'll have to contact all the contributors individually anyway, and asking for a relicense is more drastic than dual-licensing it. |
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| 02:27.35 | TheKarn | Soulless, predefined or userdefined? |
| 02:27.43 | Soulless | predefined |
| 02:27.50 | TheKarn | Emote(emoteid) i think |
| 02:28.07 | CIA-17 | 03rophy * r23305 10SimpleUnitFrames/ (Core.lua PartyFrame.lua PlayerFrame.lua TargetFrame.lua): |
| 02:28.07 | CIA-17 | SimpleUnitFrames: |
| 02:28.07 | CIA-17 | - Tweaked console options. |
| 02:28.07 | CIA-17 | - Moved event registration to OnEnable(). |
| 02:28.07 | CIA-17 | - PlayerFrame: added more events. |
| 02:28.11 | PProvost | I see the license discussion finally raising its ugly head here... |
| 02:28.16 | sylvanaar | i figuered out what it is - bugsack isnt catching errors that occure at the module scope |
| 02:28.25 | Nomad_Wanderer | where you been. it's been talked about for days now :( |
| 02:28.26 | ckknight | vhaarr: frankly I don't see it being any harder or easier |
| 02:28.35 | PProvost | I've been gone for days now. :) |
| 02:28.37 | Soulless | TheKarn: where do you get the emote id? |
| 02:28.52 | PProvost | Things are so much easier when you remember to put a license on at the beginning. :D |
| 02:29.08 | ckknight | PProvost: all my libs are licensed LGPL now. Ace2 is about to, just need to contact hyperChipmunk |
| 02:29.10 | vhaarr | ckknight: It's easier to agree with a dual-license than a relicense if you believe in the current license. |
| 02:29.14 | PProvost | Oh god |
| 02:29.20 | TheKarn | Soulless, http://www.wowwiki.com/API_DoEmote |
| 02:29.21 | PProvost | LGPL is the 2nd work of the devil |
| 02:29.26 | ckknight | PProvost: ? |
| 02:29.27 | PProvost | GPL is #1 |
| 02:29.35 | TheKarn | and http://www.wowwiki.com/API_TYPE_Emotes_Token |
| 02:29.36 | ckknight | PProvost: you missed that debate. |
| 02:29.38 | ckknight | I was pushing for GPL |
| 02:29.41 | PProvost | Stallman is the anti-christ |
| 02:29.42 | vhaarr | LGPL is a bastard child, and should be shot down. |
| 02:29.44 | vhaarr | GPL should be used. |
| 02:29.45 | ckknight | people shot me down |
| 02:29.46 | Soulless | yeah, just found it, ty TheKarn >_> i swore i checked wowwiki |
| 02:29.52 | PProvost | zlib/png |
| 02:29.54 | Antiarc | I never understood what all the fuss about the LGPL was other than "It doesn't force other software to be open source" |
| 02:30.06 | ckknight | Antiarc: that's about it. |
| 02:30.09 | PProvost | Antiarc, actually many lawyers have looked at it and have disagreed. |
| 02:30.13 | Codayus | Antiarc: Well, depending on your point of view, that IS a big flaw. |
| 02:30.16 | PProvost | Which is why it is a problem |
| 02:30.22 | PProvost | But ultimately this is all crap |
| 02:30.27 | ckknight | right, PProvost |
| 02:30.28 | PProvost | Because it has never been tested in court |
| 02:30.31 | Antiarc | Codayus: Right, and is one I disagree with. :) |
| 02:30.34 | Codayus | Whether the flaw is in the GPL or LGPL is, of course debatable. :-) |
| 02:30.35 | ckknight | it's just licensorial masturbation |
| 02:30.40 | [dRaCo] | anyone here who can help me with ClosetGnome_Gatherer? Looks like I'm too... whatever to find its menu o0 |
| 02:30.45 | PProvost | Which is why I use zlib/libpng |
| 02:30.45 | vhaarr | PProvost: What a silly statement. |
| 02:30.57 | PProvost | Or BSD |
| 02:31.02 | PProvost | vhaarr, which one? |
| 02:31.03 | PProvost | :D |
| 02:31.06 | vhaarr | PProvost: You're basically saying all legal texts are bullshit until they're tested in court. |
| 02:31.09 | ckknight | it is silly to not use something not tested in court for the sheer fact that it hasn't been tested in court. |
| 02:31.10 | vhaarr | PProvost: Which is just crap. |
| 02:31.11 | Antiarc | I write software, I want people to be able to use it freely in any software they want. I want credit for my work and only my work, and I want my work to remain open and free. What they build on my work, though, I don't care about. |
| 02:31.12 | TheKarn | lets all take our GPL or LGPL and wrap it round our cocks and go shake one? |
| 02:31.26 | TheKarn | take one for a test drive perse |
| 02:31.36 | Codayus | Frankly, I find the argument that GPL has a problem because it hasn't been "tested in court" insane. |
| 02:31.43 | ckknight | Antiarc: sounds like you want MIT/BSD |
| 02:31.49 | PProvost | vhaarr, no. what I'm saying is that the applicability of open-source licenses and their ability to actually protect code authors is in dispute until it is tested in court |
| 02:32.01 | PProvost | And that is legally a sound statement |
| 02:32.06 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23306 10Prat/Prat/modules/AddonMessages.lua: Prat: Restored addonmessages |
| 02:32.13 | Gagorian | Barbanus I fixed the error but I dont know if toadkiller wants me to commit |
| 02:32.13 | Antiarc | Holy shit |
| 02:32.16 | vhaarr | PProvost: Right, but this applies to all legal texts. |
| 02:32.17 | Antiarc | DnT just 5-manned Loatheb |
| 02:32.18 | Ominous | can banish end early? |
| 02:32.24 | vhaarr | It's not unique to open source licenses. |
| 02:32.49 | PProvost | Agreed. But, interestingly, many of the commercial licenses HAVE been tested in court. |
| 02:32.50 | Codayus | PProvost: True only to the extent that every license and contract is always "in dispute" because, yes, technically, someone could sue, and it's at least POSSIBLE that either side might win... |
| 02:33.05 | vhaarr | PProvost: I think that's a out-of-the-ass statement. |
| 02:33.07 | PProvost | Codayus, my point is that GPL hasn't been tested in court. |
| 02:33.14 | vhaarr | PProvost: "many" is the wrong word to use. |
| 02:33.14 | PProvost | vhaarr, which one? |
| 02:33.18 | Codayus | My point is, it doesn't need to be. |
| 02:33.34 | Fisker- | I am in need of SLEEP ;( |
| 02:33.36 | vhaarr | PProvost: You could say "some commercial licenses have been tested in court." and I might agree. |
| 02:33.51 | PProvost | Fair enough... I can't decide when some becomes many. My bad. |
| 02:33.51 | ckknight | PProvost: either way, in the WoW coding sphere where we don't make money and where our code is already open, I think a GPL-style license isn't a bad idea. |
| 02:33.52 | vhaarr | But that also holds true for some OSI-approved licenses. |
| 02:34.27 | PProvost | GPL requires derivative works to be GPL. That is evil. It tells others what they can do. If you want to give something away, then make it public domain or CC open and be done with it. |
| 02:34.41 | pastamancer | anyone on US/Lightbringer/Alliance? I need a tester |
| 02:34.45 | Wogroipl | Ominous: it can |
| 02:34.54 | Codayus | pastamancer: ...yes. |
| 02:34.58 | PProvost | GPL says, "I want to give this away, AND I want to control how you behave and what you can do with it." |
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| 02:35.00 | Antiarc | The only way that GPL could hurt WoW addons is in the realm of commercial addons, and the only commercial addons I know of are 100% in-house anyway. |
| 02:35.02 | Codayus | ...you play on Lightbringer? oO |
| 02:35.16 | Antiarc | So for WoW addons, GPL works for me. |
| 02:35.20 | pastamancer | Codayus: no, I play on durotan/horde, but there's a gigantic queue over there |
| 02:35.21 | PProvost | I don't like being told what to do... and generally, I try not to tell others what to do. |
| 02:35.25 | PProvost | :D |
| 02:35.26 | Gagorian | So, autobar has an issue that causes errors on loadup. I fixed it with a a few small additions, what's the opinion, is it appropriate to commit? |
| 02:35.26 | Codayus | pastamancer: Heh |
| 02:35.37 | vhaarr | As long as you don't release your shit, you don't have to GPL it, even if it's a derative work. |
| 02:35.37 | Codayus | pastamancer: Sure, logging in. |
| 02:35.41 | pastamancer | Codayus: mind downloading the latest grid and then coming over to ironforge? |
| 02:35.45 | Codayus | sure |
| 02:35.47 | Codayus | trunk? |
| 02:35.51 | pastamancer | ya |
| 02:35.54 | Nomad_Wanderer | whoever made this wand that makes the raid laugh deserves to die |
| 02:36.07 | Wogroipl | :D |
| 02:36.13 | Antiarc | Nomad_Wanderer: Only 14 hours to go on its longevity. |
| 02:36.20 | pastamancer | I need to test Healcomm |
| 02:36.38 | Codayus | Antiarc: Actually, doesn't it not time out if you don't log in? |
| 02:36.58 | ckknight | vhaarr: right, whereas if someone had an all rights reserved addon, e.g. Cosmos, then I wouldn't be able to even edit it for my own private use |
| 02:37.07 | Soulless | Antiarc: link for dnt video? |
| 02:37.09 | vhaarr | ckknight: indeed |
| 02:37.22 | Antiarc | No, it does time out. There are some items whose durations tick down only while logged in, but this one isn't one of them. |
| 02:37.26 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=61306469&sid=1&pageNo=3 |
| 02:37.27 | vhaarr | IRC and forums suck donkey balls when it comes to discussions like this. Only NNTP and mailing lists work. |
| 02:37.30 | ag` | vhaarr: btw about cbripoff |
| 02:37.37 | ckknight | nntp? |
| 02:37.38 | Antiarc | Basically exploited the hell out of Vamp Embrace/Touch |
| 02:37.40 | vhaarr | ag`: hey, happy new year |
| 02:37.43 | Codayus | Eep, LIGHTBRINGER has a queue! |
| 02:37.44 | pastamancer | vhaarr: nuke the forums, go NNTP! |
| 02:37.44 | vhaarr | ckknight: News. |
| 02:37.48 | ag` | vhaarr: same to you :D |
| 02:37.49 | vhaarr | pastamancer: signed |
| 02:37.50 | pastamancer | Codayus: :( |
| 02:37.52 | Antiarc | In the "made max use of" sense, not the "cheated with" sense. |
| 02:37.55 | Codayus | 50 people |
| 02:37.57 | Codayus | But still |
| 02:38.02 | Codayus | Alas, poor Lagbringer... |
| 02:38.03 | ag` | ckknight: hi |
| 02:38.11 | ag` | vhaarr: anyway about cbripoff |
| 02:38.22 | Codayus | ETA 1 min. :-( |
| 02:38.24 | ag` | I think it's nice with yet another cast bar |
| 02:38.35 | pastamancer | durotan was 30-40min :( |
| 02:38.35 | ag` | but I think you should write it from scratch |
| 02:38.40 | vid` | ag! hey question |
| 02:38.41 | Codayus | pastamancer: Lamez0r. |
| 02:38.42 | ag` | or leave it off the svn |
| 02:38.45 | Zicon | Mrrrr, nntp. |
| 02:38.48 | Nomad_Wanderer | anyone know how to split stacks with baggins? it keeps recombining them |
| 02:38.49 | ag` | Not sure haste wants it there |
| 02:38.50 | vid` | did you change something with the name clipping in aguf? |
| 02:38.54 | vhaarr | ckknight: Forums and IRC are not suited for heavy discussions like licensing, since it's hard to keep track of and quote properly. E-mails are the only way to go. |
| 02:38.59 | ag` | vid`: yeah |
| 02:39.01 | vid` | ahhh |
| 02:39.02 | vhaarr | ag`: I've asked him. |
| 02:39.02 | pastamancer | ag`: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3890.0 |
| 02:39.10 | ag` | vhaarr: and what did he say? |
| 02:39.11 | vid` | cause the name of the mobs covers the health now |
| 02:39.15 | TheKarn | Nomad_Wanderer, disable the opetion that merges them :P |
| 02:39.16 | vhaarr | ag`: he said it was alright |
| 02:39.16 | Codayus | I think forums are better than IRC...IRC tends to get too heated. |
| 02:39.17 | vid` | so you cant read the mobhealth 3 data |
| 02:39.17 | ag` | vid`: I will fix it |
| 02:39.20 | vid` | coo |
| 02:39.27 | vid` | just wondering if i fubar'd something |
| 02:39.28 | TheKarn | Nomad_Wanderer, i cant remember where in the options it is |
| 02:39.29 | Codayus | With people throwing out stuff like "license X is EEEVIL" and stuff. :-) |
| 02:39.31 | vid` | (no pun intended) |
| 02:39.32 | vid` | :P |
| 02:39.33 | vhaarr | ag`: I'm probably going to modify it quite a bit anyway, but we'll see. |
| 02:39.39 | Nomad_Wanderer | AH.. THATS what compress means :) |
| 02:39.43 | TheKarn | lol |
| 02:39.44 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23307 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_WarlockTimerFu: Added spells and made work for recasts :D |
| 02:39.51 | ag` | vhaarr: well, then it's okay... Not sure why he says it's okay when it's his addon :) |
| 02:39.58 | Codayus | pastamancer: Does it need to be a healer class? |
| 02:40.08 | pastamancer | Codayus: mmm, yeah |
| 02:40.11 | haste | ag`: 'cause I don't give a shit as long as it's not under my name :) |
| 02:40.22 | pastamancer | Codayus: if you need to create a new char, I can come to you |
| 02:40.24 | Codayus | kk, it'll take me a sec, I'm in SW. |
| 02:40.31 | pastamancer | my paladin is level 8! |
| 02:41.05 | ZealotOnAStick | What's a good addon to look at for stuff on the new iteminfo stuff and tooltips/item links? |
| 02:41.10 | DrZoot | pastamancer, you were right about that code I showed you yesterday, I removed it from that function and the increasing memory rate dropped down to about 2KiB/s, thanks for the help |
| 02:41.12 | vhaarr | ckknight: But yeah, I'll agree to relicense BugGrabber as LGPL. |
| 02:41.20 | pastamancer | DrZoot: :) |
| 02:41.33 | vhaarr | Even though I think it should be all GPL. |
| 02:41.52 | ckknight | I'm fine with either for BugGrabber |
| 02:42.13 | TheKarn | BugGrabber GPL would mean BugSack would have to be GPL |
| 02:42.29 | PProvost | See? The evil of GPL strikes again... |
| 02:42.41 | vhaarr | Yeah, like we didn't know. |
| 02:42.43 | ag` | haste: Goodie... Just wanted to make sure something wasn't happening here which you wouldn't have wanted |
| 02:42.48 | PProvost | Licenses that don't require scrollbars to read are so much nicer. |
| 02:42.54 | Codayus | pastamancer: Hmm, I'm in. And...getting errors from Grid. Hmm |
| 02:43.00 | Codayus | pastamancer: Lazare is the char name, btw. |
| 02:43.01 | PProvost | http://www.opensource.org/licenses/zlib-license.php |
| 02:43.02 | pastamancer | PProvost: amen |
| 02:43.14 | ckknight | vhaarr: who controls BugSack? |
| 02:43.15 | PProvost | Ahhh... that's a nice OSS license |
| 02:43.22 | vhaarr | ckknight: Fritti and me, currently. |
| 02:43.24 | haste | ag`: well, I see it as another "must be Ace2" addon anyhow |
| 02:43.34 | vid` | PProvost: nice :P |
| 02:43.45 | PProvost | 1. You can't claim you wrote it. 2. If you change it, you can't claim it is mine. 3. You can't take this license off my shit. |
| 02:43.46 | haste | and it would remove old the idioits that demands an addon to be ace off my back |
| 02:44.10 | vid` | 4. if you use the ace libs, your mod must be on the svn :P |
| 02:44.13 | vhaarr | PProvost: It's not about restricting usage, it's about ensuring information sharing. |
| 02:44.17 | ZealotOnAStick | pastamancer - was DrZoot in response to my question? |
| 02:44.28 | vid` | cause no wau to mass update mods sucks! |
| 02:44.30 | PProvost | vhaarr, sorry but I have to call BS on that |
| 02:44.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Also - what tool or addon can I use to see precisely what events are happening when I try to do something? |
| 02:44.41 | vhaarr | PProvost: I'm not going to discuss this here with you, but there's nothing you can say to convince me, I've heard it all. |
| 02:44.42 | pastamancer | ZealotOnAStick: what? |
| 02:44.49 | vid` | i hate when i have to go find 1 or 2 mods i use that arent on the ace svn :P |
| 02:44.50 | PProvost | Fair enough. |
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| 02:44.56 | vhaarr | PProvost: Send me an e-mail and I'll be happy to discuss. |
| 02:45.00 | vhaarr | IRC and forums suck balls. |
| 02:45.03 | ckknight | vhaarr: well, convince Fritti |
| 02:45.10 | PProvost | No point. I think the GPL is evil. You think it rules. No discussion to have. |
| 02:45.26 | PProvost | I've been in this space at least as long as you have. I've had this argument many times. No point in having it again. |
| 02:45.35 | ckknight | don't use terms like "good" and "evil" |
| 02:45.37 | Fisker- | gpl is evil though |
| 02:45.37 | PProvost | Sorry for getting involved. |
| 02:45.47 | PProvost | Sorry ckknight, but I honestly believe that. |
| 02:46.37 | TheKarn | i dont see why, if you use OSS in your software why yours shouldnt be open source |
| 02:46.40 | PProvost | Perhaps malicious would be better. |
| 02:47.04 | ckknight | good and evil are relative terms based on the perpective of the user |
| 02:47.23 | PProvost | Of course. |
| 02:47.29 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23308 10Prat/Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/AddonMessages.lua): Prat: disable/fix the module name registry |
| 02:47.35 | PProvost | So perhaps malicious is a better choice. |
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| 02:47.39 | PProvost | Let's stop now. |
| 02:47.41 | PProvost | Okay? |
| 02:47.49 | ag` | haste: dunno if it's something you wish to discuss, but are there any technical reasons why feel like not using the libraries anymore? |
| 02:47.53 | PProvost | You have decided. I don't agree. Whatever. Time to move on. |
| 02:48.43 | haste | ag`: mostly what it provides and what I want / use |
| 02:48.43 | ckknight | PProvost: hopefully it won't affect you, that's why we're going with LGPL for libraries instead of GPL. |
| 02:48.53 | TheKarn | personally i think we should have a seperate wowace-license discussion channel |
| 02:48.59 | TheKarn | i think #care would suffice |
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| 02:50.01 | ag` | haste: okay. Was just confused if it was the outcome of something not related to the libraries at all |
| 02:50.02 | pastamancer | heya clad |
| 02:50.08 | cladhaire | hiya |
| 02:50.31 | pastamancer | perfedraid doesn't have an incoming heals indicator, does it? |
| 02:50.38 | pastamancer | err, perfectraid |
| 02:50.39 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23309 10Cartographer_Import/ (Cartographer_Import.toc Import.lua): Cartographer_Import: added a opt dependancy for cart_stats so it can see added notes, and fixed the blood of heroes import |
| 02:50.41 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23310 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/ (Bars/Buffs.lua Core.lua): FuBar_WarlockTimerFu: Added Enslave Deamon |
| 02:50.54 | cladhaire | no, you could write a module pretty easily |
| 02:51.03 | cladhaire | and i can give you any hooks/callbacks you might need |
| 02:51.16 | pastamancer | was just wondering if I should pimp my healcomm library to you |
| 02:51.48 | cladhaire | meh, it'd go in another addon if that's the cse |
| 02:51.49 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23311 10Prat/Prat/modules/Buttons.lua: Prat: labeled the button module broken since it appears to be missing code now |
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| 02:52.11 | ag` | would be nice if people could agree on a way to communicate incoming heals and such |
| 02:52.19 | ag` | so it would work in raid no matter what addon people used |
| 02:52.22 | pastamancer | ag`: they should agree on my library :) |
| 02:52.46 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 02:52.54 | ag` | well... If Cide puts it into ctra you're owned |
| 02:53.00 | pastamancer | totally |
| 02:53.10 | TheKarn | lol |
| 02:53.15 | TheKarn | we love Cide |
| 02:53.16 | pastamancer | I didn't think CTRA had a heal indicator though |
| 02:53.16 | TheKarn | ~Cide |
| 02:53.24 | purl | somebody said cide was the developer of the CT mods |
| 02:54.07 | Kemayo | Ominous: How well does WarlockTimerFu handle tracking DoTs on multiple targets with the same name? |
| 02:54.17 | Ominous | badly :/ |
| 02:54.28 | Kemayo | Drat. |
| 02:54.38 | TheKarn | i have a question for all Stargate buffs ... how does the incoming team know when the iris/shield is open? |
| 02:54.57 | Nomad_Wanderer | they get a code on their little device thing. confirmation code |
| 02:54.57 | vhaarr | they have a comm device that transmits a team ID |
| 02:55.00 | Ordog | they dont |
| 02:55.02 | vid` | they get a signal back when they send out the pulse dont they? |
| 02:55.04 | Ominous | but cant think of a way t change it that wouldnt also create a second bar when u re-applied before the buff had expired |
| 02:55.14 | vid` | yea |
| 02:55.15 | Nomad_Wanderer | they send the code, and then the sgc sends back a confirmation |
| 02:55.17 | TheKarn | so when they open the iris/shield they send back a signal |
| 02:55.24 | vhaarr | yes |
| 02:55.24 | TheKarn | ah ok |
| 02:55.43 | Ordog | they must trust that it is open they dont "know" it |
| 02:55.48 | Ominous | can you use log template with command line? |
| 02:56.20 | sylvanaar | ~Cide |
| 02:56.21 | purl | [cide] the developer of the CT mods. He is also known for his bad temper |
| 02:57.32 | CIA-17 | 03miles * r23312 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames - Added mouseover tooltips op XP bar: XP, Rested XP and pet happiness. |
| 02:57.59 | ag` | ./cheer miles |
| 02:58.26 | Gngsk | nice commit |
| 02:58.33 | Miles | we're all going on a turboleveling spree in 10 days, so that's pretty useful ^^ |
| 02:58.49 | kenlyric|home | meh. |
| 02:58.50 | ag` | woah shit, it's in ten days |
| 02:58.53 | ZealotOnAStick | What's a good addon to look at for stuff on the new iteminfo stuff and tooltips/item links? . . . and what tool or addon can I use to see precisely what events are happening when I try to do something? |
| 02:58.53 | kenlyric|home | such a waste. |
| 02:59.28 | ag` | yeah I can't wait to see all the new zones |
| 02:59.34 | Miles|zzz | it's not like I haven't done the quests yet ;) |
| 02:59.48 | ag` | I stopped at level 61 :P |
| 02:59.56 | kenlyric|home | yeah, that's why I never pursued a beta. Didn't want to ruin it. |
| 03:00.01 | Miles|zzz | that hellfire peninsula is huge... I think I'll reach 63 by only doing all the quests |
| 03:00.08 | Thrae | How do I get agUF to show combo points? |
| 03:00.23 | ag` | Mmm Thrae it should |
| 03:00.23 | Kemayo | It shows them as dots by default, no? |
| 03:00.27 | ag` | yeah |
| 03:00.28 | Hjalte | Tristan, the author of tankalyze, is never on irc? |
| 03:00.32 | Thrae | I'm not seeing the dots |
| 03:00.36 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23313 10Prat/Prat/unused/ (7 files): Prat: excess stuff which was in the devroot |
| 03:00.37 | kenlyric|home | after seeing some of the quest rewards i decided I wasn't going to do any level 60 instances. Screw it. |
| 03:00.41 | Thrae | ag`: By the way, I re-deleted my SV and that fixed the bugs |
| 03:00.49 | ag` | Thrae: cool |
| 03:00.50 | Thrae | Probably still had old SV somewhere |
| 03:00.56 | ag` | anyway the dots should work |
| 03:01.02 | ag` | guess something broke them |
| 03:01.09 | Thrae | I'm a Druid |
| 03:01.15 | Miles|zzz | played kitty yesterday and it worked then |
| 03:01.16 | ag` | they should still work I think |
| 03:01.17 | Thrae | Maybe that's why? |
| 03:01.27 | Thrae | Where do they show? Top? Bottom? Inside? |
| 03:01.34 | ag` | bottom right |
| 03:01.37 | ag` | of the target frame |
| 03:01.47 | Miles|zzz | slightly above the buffs... can overlap |
| 03:01.47 | Kaelten | ello |
| 03:01.58 | ag` | I think I made them not overlap |
| 03:02.12 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23314 10Prat/Prat/modules/Unused/ (4 files): Prat: excess modules in modules |
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| 03:02.16 | ag` | Miles|zzz: btw I fixed the scaling stuff with auras |
| 03:02.30 | Nomad_Wanderer | Wow cartographer is hot. |
| 03:02.31 | Miles|zzz | yea, saw the commits |
| 03:02.35 | TheKarn | sylvanaar, you having fun? |
| 03:02.40 | sylvanaar | no |
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| 03:02.57 | ag` | I should probably put that show auras thing back |
| 03:03.15 | sylvanaar | all this shit was working until the code got 'reorganized' |
| 03:03.18 | Hjalte | sylvanaar: Hmm, what's the difference between your Prat and the 'default' Prat? |
| 03:03.36 | TheKarn | alot |
| 03:03.40 | ag` | and will they merge eventually? |
| 03:03.42 | Thrae | ag`: Tiny bug -- rogue energy text is right-justified instead of left |
| 03:04.04 | ag` | Thrae: strange.. did you just try out different themes? |
| 03:04.12 | TheKarn | ag`, afaik the changes are only being done in a branch so WAU users dont get the fuckedup version when sylvanaar messes it all up :) |
| 03:04.24 | Thrae | I'm using Classic for Target |
| 03:04.25 | ag` | TheKarn: I see |
| 03:04.37 | sylvanaar | there ya go |
| 03:04.39 | Thrae | And Compact for Party |
| 03:04.41 | ag` | Thrae: ah, it's probably the layout that needs fixing |
| 03:04.52 | Thrae | Both have the energy as right-justified |
| 03:05.05 | Thrae | Although it looks like in Compact, the health is right-justified too |
| 03:05.17 | ag` | hm |
| 03:05.24 | sylvanaar | anyhow, this is Prat's next major revision. it'll get put in the trunk once it stabilizes |
| 03:06.00 | Thrae | ag`: Yeah, in compact, it's right-justified for both health and mana |
| 03:06.03 | ag` | but they're supposed to be right aligned afaik? |
| 03:06.10 | Thrae | Probably |
| 03:06.20 | Thrae | So it's just Classic |
| 03:06.31 | Thrae | It's really a silly thing anyway |
| 03:06.45 | ag` | I still spend some time tweaking those damn styles :P |
| 03:07.01 | ag` | I should probably make border unit or style specific |
| 03:07.06 | ckknight | Nomad_Wanderer: haven't tried it before? |
| 03:07.16 | Nomad_Wanderer | I wish they would fix the line of site issues with maexxana. |
| 03:07.20 | ag` | it's stupid how borders is a global thing for the entire addon |
| 03:07.25 | Nomad_Wanderer | no Its my first night with cartographer. |
| 03:07.25 | Thrae | Looks like the Health field is the one that needs to be right-justified w/ Classic |
| 03:07.32 | Nomad_Wanderer | its really cool |
| 03:07.34 | ckknight | Nomad_Wanderer: alright then ;-) |
| 03:07.39 | TheKarn | lol |
| 03:07.43 | TheKarn | ckknight, guess what... |
| 03:07.58 | ag` | Thrae: okay, I will take a look at it tomorrow... |
| 03:08.15 | ag` | I dunno, if you can figure out the layout syntax feel free to fix and commit yourself |
| 03:08.24 | ravagernl | ag, can we get an option for a new border, called plain, which is basicly a 1px border? |
| 03:08.36 | ravagernl | might need to make an edgefile for it tho |
| 03:08.39 | kebinusan | I still love this game http://megami.starcreator.com/nanaca-crash/ |
| 03:08.46 | ag` | I think that would need an edge file |
| 03:09.00 | ag` | feel free to provide one |
| 03:09.09 | ravagernl | Im asking because I dont really like the 3px border, heh :) |
| 03:09.33 | ravagernl | cool |
| 03:10.37 | [dRaCo] | hm. i need something to move the default castbar... ocb doesn't work for me. |
| 03:11.29 | vid` | if you are using ocb default castbar should be hidden |
| 03:11.37 | [dRaCo] | yes. |
| 03:11.49 | [dRaCo] | but ocb screws sRaidFrames for me |
| 03:11.52 | vid` | ah |
| 03:11.53 | [dRaCo] | so I cant use it |
| 03:11.53 | vid` | :\ |
| 03:12.33 | [dRaCo] | and I can't find out, what exactly in ocb causes the trouble |
| 03:12.45 | vid` | i finally got my UI to where its not a complete clusterfuck: http://www.saecula.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=117 |
| 03:12.46 | vid` | :P |
| 03:12.52 | vid` | im mostly happy with it |
| 03:12.55 | vid` | still needs some tweaking |
| 03:12.59 | vid` | and i gotta center autobar :P |
| 03:13.49 | Toadkiller | i think i added the center code back in already? |
| 03:14.18 | vid` | oh it centers but it doesnt detect the top bartender bar |
| 03:14.25 | vid` | on my config for some reason |
| 03:14.35 | vid` | its picking up bar 10 which is disabled |
| 03:14.39 | vid` | but not picking up bar 6 |
| 03:14.42 | vid` | which is enabled |
| 03:14.44 | vid` | /shrug |
| 03:14.56 | vid` | but it was close enough that i left it :P |
| 03:15.02 | Thrae | ag`: It's definately not showing combo points with the default theme for target |
| 03:15.30 | Toadkiller | vid: you want an option to dock to bar6? |
| 03:15.47 | vid` | sure :P |
| 03:15.56 | Ominous | hmm i cant decide, which is the best way to do ace2 addons, from svn or files |
| 03:16.01 | vid` | i figured you had it setup to dock any bar that was active |
| 03:16.05 | vid` | i never looked at your code |
| 03:16.14 | vid` | to see if it scanned to see whats active and visible or whatever |
| 03:16.18 | vid` | i dunno if its even possible |
| 03:16.18 | vid` | :P |
| 03:16.28 | Thrae | ag`: Ah sorry, it's Classic, not ABF |
| 03:17.35 | Hjalte | vid`: First time tried it, 1139 m :-\ |
| 03:17.56 | ag` | Thrae: ah the classic theme doesn't show combos, but ABF does? |
| 03:18.00 | Hjalte | Used my red boosters too fast i think |
| 03:18.04 | vid` | eh? |
| 03:19.24 | Hjalte | vid`: Heh, wrong guy ;) |
| 03:20.05 | Thrae | ag`: Not sure, need to test |
| 03:20.11 | ag` | okay |
| 03:20.19 | ag` | going to bed now though, contact me tomorrow |
| 03:20.26 | ag` | bye all ::)) |
| 03:20.33 | vid` | gnite |
| 03:23.11 | ravagernl | ag` there is an 1px border texture in skinner addon |
| 03:23.28 | ravagernl | or is it a 2 px, anyway, it looks nice |
| 03:23.40 | CIA-17 | 03nirek * r23315 10Evpsets/ (Evpsets.lua Evpsets.toc): Evpsets: Add 2 more blue sets, need priest, druid now, still need ab items(horde) |
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| 03:24.47 | Eternally777 | Anything change in today's beta patch? |
| 03:25.07 | beerke | pvp sets + costs and the ones for TBC are up on wow-europe.com |
| 03:25.13 | beerke | nothing changed today |
| 03:25.24 | beerke | there was no patch, maybe server side |
| 03:25.27 | Eternally777 | Oh, it's 2.0.3 |
| 03:25.36 | Eternally777 | I just had my client patched |
| 03:25.45 | beerke | weird mine didn't today |
| 03:25.53 | beerke | are u US or EU ? |
| 03:25.57 | Eternally777 | US |
| 03:26.07 | beerke | damn americans ! |
| 03:26.46 | Soulless | is it possible to target a unit not in your raid/party who is not visible? |
| 03:27.28 | beerke | only if you can see it |
| 03:28.02 | Soulless | so anything that returns nil with UnitIsVisible() that you can target has to be in your raid or party right? |
| 03:28.03 | ckknight | well, time to go home |
| 03:29.43 | beerke | unitIsVisible takes an unitid i assume |
| 03:29.50 | Soulless | yeah |
| 03:29.56 | beerke | so it wouild be target/focus/pet/party/raid |
| 03:30.23 | Soulless | right, but if you can target it and it returns false, it has to be in your party or raid |
| 03:30.48 | Soulless | cuz you couldn't target it otherwise, unless i'm thinking about that wrong |
| 03:30.59 | beerke | You can target horde even |
| 03:31.09 | beerke | as allaince |
| 03:31.22 | beerke | so no need for being in your party |
| 03:31.35 | Soulless | but they would be visible then |
| 03:32.03 | beerke | anything you can target basically |
| 03:32.05 | KarlThePagan | is there anyone here who's done a flightpath mod... like ToFu? |
| 03:32.46 | Soulless | i dunno what you need, but InFlight does a good job for me, if you need to look at some code |
| 03:32.47 | Amadeo | kebinusan: I just got 2559.67, lol |
| 03:33.01 | Hjalte | KarlThePagen: Kemayo, the author of ToFu, is in the channel. |
| 03:33.01 | KarlThePagan | I'm looking to hook the same event just looking for advice |
| 03:33.08 | KarlThePagan | thx |
| 03:33.09 | kebinusan | my record is 7240.26 |
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| 03:33.32 | Amadeo | I just figured out what the specials and stuff were |
| 03:33.33 | Amadeo | haha |
| 03:33.36 | Amadeo | this is pretty neat |
| 03:33.41 | kebinusan | yeah its pretty fun |
| 03:34.24 | KarlThePagan | Kemayo, - i'm looking to hook any event that occurs when you start on a flightpath... not sure if I want control lost or taximap closed |
| 03:34.28 | KarlThePagan | or if i should combine them |
| 03:34.33 | SP|Sorren | is there a profiled version of spellbinder? |
| 03:34.37 | CIA-17 | 03aznamir * r23316 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua: |
| 03:34.37 | CIA-17 | PallyPower: |
| 03:34.37 | CIA-17 | - Added PallyPower:GetSpellID function |
| 03:34.37 | CIA-17 | - replaced UserName("player") by self.player in most of the places |
| 03:34.37 | CIA-17 | - some cleanup |
| 03:36.30 | KarlThePagan | I suppose I'll go with player control lost since UnitOnTaxi("player") shouldn't be too difficult |
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| 03:39.12 | vid` | whats cartographer_stats do? |
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| 03:40.03 | CIA-17 | 03pastamancer * r23317 10Grid/ (GridLocale-enUS.lua GridStatusHeals.lua GridStatusHealth.lua): |
| 03:40.03 | CIA-17 | Grid: |
| 03:40.03 | CIA-17 | - fixed FD detection for real this time |
| 03:40.03 | CIA-17 | - Added "Feign Death warning" status |
| 03:40.03 | CIA-17 | - completed integration of Healcomm |
| 03:40.03 | CIA-17 | - Thanks to Codayus for helping test all of the above |
| 03:41.06 | Sylfi | Does anyone else here use AceComm with a custom channel? Have you had any problems with it since 2.0? |
| 03:41.06 | Kemayo | KarlThePagan: I'd say combine them. Taximap closed is vague -- someone could just have closed the window, after all. Checking UnitIsOnTaxi('player') when the map closes might be sufficient, though. |
| 03:41.55 | KarlThePagan | yea gonna test it soon ;) |
| 03:42.17 | KarlThePagan | however I'm seeing that UnitIsAFK("player") is false during the system message :( |
| 03:42.24 | Kemayo | I can't remember whether the player is actually on the taxi at the instant the map closes or not. |
| 03:42.52 | KarlThePagan | I know that ToFu has problems sometimes... |
| 03:43.51 | Kemayo | Indeed. I need to add some more thorough checks to it. |
| 03:44.02 | Kemayo | And work out how to detect being summoned. |
| 03:44.24 | KarlThePagan | I'll let you know what I come up with... this is for GrouperLFG |
| 03:45.03 | jkw | If I install the libraries that most AddOns use. Remove the Libs folder in all addons (to reduce space), do I have to modify toc file for all addons or does the optional dependancie work that out? |
| 03:45.19 | CIA-17 | 03pastamancer * r23318 10Grid/GridFrame.lua: Grid: add FD status to GridFrame's statusmap. |
| 03:45.22 | jkw | Trying to make my loading time better >< It's awful now |
| 03:45.52 | TheKarn | jkw the libraries are loaded and available |
| 03:45.56 | TheKarn | so it wont make a difference |
| 03:46.14 | KarlThePagan | but removing the embedded libs will make your first load time faster |
| 03:46.22 | KarlThePagan | or is that every load time? hmm |
| 03:46.43 | jkw | It's the first load time that's worst |
| 03:46.48 | TheKarn | just the first |
| 03:47.11 | jkw | since it loads a gazrillion embedd ace libraries :P |
| 03:47.54 | jkw | and other libraries for that matter |
| 03:48.06 | Soulless | embedded libs.....gross |
| 03:48.45 | jkw | So I decided to install all libaries, try to remove the embedded libraries to boost loading time and reduce the ui compilation size |
| 03:49.09 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r23319 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.toc SpellData.lua): |
| 03:49.09 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 03:49.09 | CIA-17 | -Added more ranks to mage spells. Added mage basedamage increases (still need data for pyroblast, blast wave, dragon's breath and ice barrier). |
| 03:49.18 | sergio | jkw: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WowAceUpdater Dealing with Library Errors using !!!StandaloneLibs |
| 03:49.19 | pastamancer | hmm, I need to poke at the zip script again. The no-ext zips also don't include files from external svn repositories |
| 03:50.17 | Soulless | yeah |
| 03:50.25 | jkw | sergio: I know about it, but I refuse to install .NET |
| 03:50.29 | CIA-17 | 03beerke * r23320 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungleUITabs.lua: |
| 03:50.29 | CIA-17 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 03:50.29 | CIA-17 | - Reverse Translation Fix |
| 03:50.41 | Soulless | jkw: the use an svn client |
| 03:50.56 | Soulless | whats wrong with .net? |
| 03:51.00 | Amadeo | I'm surprised nobody has replaced the enemy cast bar yet |
| 03:51.25 | sergio | then use !!!StandaloneLibs.zip as a list of libraries to get and download the no-ext version |
| 03:51.28 | sergio | manually |
| 03:51.30 | jkw | Amadeo: Antagonist? |
| 03:51.34 | sergio | shrug |
| 03:51.45 | Kemayo | Amadeo: mEnemyCastbar? |
| 03:51.47 | Amadeo | jkw: More than I need |
| 03:51.49 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r23321 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: Fixed bug when disabling other addons. |
| 03:51.59 | Amadeo | Kemayo: Can't even move it :( |
| 03:52.33 | Nomad_Wanderer | chronometer? |
| 03:52.40 | Gngsk | ... |
| 03:52.44 | Amadeo | haha |
| 03:53.12 | jkw | argh, Cartographer Stats has ninjaed both left and right mousebutton |
| 03:53.30 | jkw | Been zooming out with right click for 2 years >< |
| 03:53.39 | vid` | whats it do? |
| 03:53.46 | Gngsk | jkw, unlock the map or hold alt |
| 03:54.21 | jkw | Gngsk: It is unlocked |
| 03:54.37 | jkw | Gngsk: Absolutley nothing happens when it's locked though. |
| 03:54.55 | Gngsk | holding alt while it's locked is supposed to make it like it's not locked |
| 03:55.40 | jkw | Gngsk: Yeah, It unlocks while holding down Alt, but it stills shows Cartographer Stats on right-click |
| 03:55.52 | Gngsk | oic |
| 03:57.51 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23322 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: better blood of hero support |
| 03:57.58 | Gngsk | jkw, try it holding ctrl |
| 04:00.30 | ZealotOnAStick | ~seen Gagorian |
| 04:01.02 | purl | gagorian is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 1h 25m 36s, last said: 'So, autobar has an issue that causes errors on loadup. I fixed it with a a few small additions, what's the opinion, is it appropriate to commit?'. |
| 04:01.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Gagorian ping |
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| 04:03.05 | Hjalte | kagaro: Are you the right person to speak to about errors with cartographer_stats? If yes, then http://ace.pastey.net/4494 :) |
| 04:03.06 | ZealotOnAStick | Trying again: What's a good addon to look at for stuff on the new iteminfo stuff and tooltips/item links? . . . and what tool or addon can I use to see precisely what events are happening when I try to do something? |
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| 04:04.41 | vid` | hey whats cart_stats actually do? :P |
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| 04:05.39 | Gagorian | ZealotOnAStick? |
| 04:05.58 | Gngsk | ## Title: Cartographer_Stats |cff7fff7f -Ace2-|r |
| 04:05.58 | Gngsk | ## Notes: Gathering Statistics Module |
| 04:06.21 | vid` | so its stast on resources you pick up or what? |
| 04:06.26 | Gngsk | suppose so |
| 04:06.31 | Gngsk | I think jkw needs to update |
| 04:08.33 | Feldia | can anyone recommend an aced auctioneer style mod, with the specific ability to mass post auctions |
| 04:09.04 | Codayus | Feldia: Hmm, fence? |
| 04:09.25 | Feldia | looks good, ty |
| 04:09.49 | Gnarfoz | you _could_ just use auctioneer, tho :> |
| 04:09.57 | Feldia | screw that! ace all the way |
| 04:10.05 | Gnarfoz | but if you only need mass listing, it's possibly overkill |
| 04:10.08 | Feldia | besides I don't need most of the features of auctioneer |
| 04:10.12 | Feldia | exactly |
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| 04:10.40 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r23323 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua: Grid - Update locals koKR |
| 04:11.31 | pastamancer | egad, there's a queue on all of the servers I have accounts on |
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| 04:13.40 | Tular | hey guys, qucik Q about ClosetGnome |
| 04:13.51 | Tain | Don't ask, don't tell. |
| 04:14.09 | Nomad_Wanderer | welcome to TBC pasta :( |
| 04:14.17 | Tular | if I set one full sent and load it, and then a partal set, it should keep stuff from the full set right? |
| 04:14.46 | Tular | its removing stuff that I dont think it should |
| 04:15.21 | Tular | my FR gear doesnt have a weapon assigned to it |
| 04:15.29 | ZealotOnAStick | Gagorian - sorry, was in thaddius fight. Does DrDamage take into account Damage to undead? |
| 04:15.32 | Tular | but when I load it, it removes my weapon |
| 04:15.37 | Prophyy | what mod is it that messes up "ESC" key...i can't hit ESC anymore sometimes.. |
| 04:16.03 | Tain | Lexan does. |
| 04:16.09 | TheKarn[Sleep] | nn all |
| 04:16.13 | Gagorian | ZealotOnAStick: Not currently, but interesting proposal though |
| 04:16.26 | pastamancer | Nomad_Wanderer: speaking of TBC, no queues on beta, yay! |
| 04:16.26 | Gagorian | I wonder if there's an API call to get that sort of damage on the player |
| 04:16.36 | Nomad_Wanderer | short lived |
| 04:16.47 | Nomad_Wanderer | go beat up dirty hippies imo |
| 04:16.48 | Tular | Should it work that way? |
| 04:18.03 | Prophyy | which mods will disable Blizz_RAIDUI? |
| 04:19.44 | Tain | I use DirtyHippie_UI |
| 04:20.05 | Nomad_Wanderer | Dirty Hippie is a mob from KoL :) |
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| 04:21.07 | Gagorian | ZealotOnAStick: hmmh, there doesn't seem to be any handy way to know if the player has such damage |
| 04:21.17 | Feldia | nice, the one feature from fence I wanted doesn't even work |
| 04:21.19 | Feldia | just spits out an error |
| 04:21.20 | Feldia | tt |
| 04:21.35 | Gagorian | Scanning through items for such a minor thing is probably not worth it. |
| 04:22.05 | Gagorian | you can add the damage I guess by putting manual variables on, manual adds to detected and put 48 in spelldamage. |
| 04:22.15 | Gagorian | that'll do the same effect |
| 04:22.23 | ZealotOnAStick | I thought ItemBonusLib was supposed to pick it up . . . but my current ItemBonusesFu isn't picking up my Rune of the Dawn |
| 04:23.22 | SP|Sorren | anyone know how to bind keys in bt3? i cant seem to find it :o |
| 04:23.27 | Ordog | did you directly switch the commision with the rune? |
| 04:24.06 | ZealotOnAStick | I destroyed my commission if that's what you're asking. |
| 04:24.14 | Feldia | SP|Sorren: escape --> keybindings |
| 04:24.19 | Gagorian | ZealotOnAStick: I don't even use itembonuseslib for anything, seems like a waste to add it for the sake of that (even if it detected it) |
| 04:24.21 | ZealotOnAStick | No point in keeping it, and I can get another one if I needed for some reason. What bearing does that have? |
| 04:24.40 | Ordog | no but i had a bug when i directly switched equiped commision with the rune |
| 04:24.45 | SP|Sorren | Feldia: ah. |
| 04:24.59 | Fisker- | aaaah |
| 04:25.00 | Fisker- | epic fail |
| 04:25.07 | Fisker- | you have to collect the gems from the consortium yourself |
| 04:25.08 | Ordog | buff was removed |
| 04:29.16 | Gagorian | ZealotOnAStick: Well, I'll consider it. |
| 04:33.53 | acumen | anyone familiar with the mod sniff? |
| 04:35.07 | Tular | vhaarr: u around? |
| 04:35.12 | vhaarr | yes |
| 04:35.39 | Feldia | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3255.msg72315#msg72315 |
| 04:35.47 | Feldia | anyone know what could be causing that error? |
| 04:36.19 | Prophyy | which mods will disable Blizz_RAIDUI? need a mod so that the default doesn't use that shitty shit lol |
| 04:37.04 | Feldia | just don't drag out the frames |
| 04:37.04 | Feldia | and it won't get turned on |
| 04:37.04 | Prophyy | oh |
| 04:37.24 | Tular | vhaarr: quick Q about CG, if I load a create a set and the weapon slots are red, it shouldnt remove when weapons when the outfit is loaded, right? |
| 04:37.27 | Fisker- | oh fucking lol |
| 04:37.28 | Prophyy | still a mod out there that is disabling O when incombat.. |
| 04:37.38 | vhaarr | Tular: Red slots are ignored. |
| 04:37.39 | Fisker- | "Flask of Titans" is an exalted recipe with Sha'Tar |
| 04:37.49 | Prophyy | can't bring up raidframes when incombat.. |
| 04:37.53 | Feldia | yea, all the old flasks are trainable with rep in tbc |
| 04:38.10 | Feldia | and rumor has it you need current flask recipes in order to "discover" the new ones |
| 04:38.37 | Tular | vhaarr: something is messed up then |
| 04:38.59 | Tular | vhaarr: I am gonna delete the outfit and try to start over |
| 04:39.08 | vhaarr | Tular: oka |
| 04:39.09 | vhaarr | y |
| 04:39.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Gagorian - was mainly just asking if it took it into consideration, wasn't specifically requesting it be added. |
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| 04:41.05 | CIA-17 | 03nirek * r23324 10Evpsets/ (Evpsets.lua Evpsets.toc): Evpsets: Add Priest epic and blue sets |
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| 04:42.35 | CIA-17 | 03grennon * r23325 10/branches/GMail/: Removed file/folder |
| 04:42.53 | CIA-17 | 03grennon * r23326 10/branches/Postal/: Removed file/folder |
| 04:43.00 | grennon | im switching to VFL |
| 04:43.14 | vid` | vfl? |
| 04:43.16 | grennon | i like guis that take 128MB |
| 04:43.22 | vid` | lol |
| 04:43.24 | Thorgard | Very Fuckin Large? |
| 04:44.02 | vid` | im watching snakes on a plane |
| 04:44.02 | vid` | lol |
| 04:44.07 | vid` | crazy shit |
| 04:44.22 | vhaarr | grennon: So no more GMail on SVN? |
| 04:44.37 | Thorgard | vid`, only good scene in that movie is the boobie-shot. |
| 04:44.37 | vid` | think he was joking :P |
| 04:44.50 | vid` | maybe hes getting ready to put up gmail2 !?!? |
| 04:44.50 | vid` | :P |
| 04:45.13 | vhaarr | vid`: Well, whether he's joking or not about VFL, he did remove the addons, so I'm kind of curious what's going on. |
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| 04:45.31 | vid` | i thought he removed gmail a long time ago from svn |
| 04:45.39 | vid` | prob forgot to remove branches one |
| 04:45.46 | Dhraga | morning all |
| 04:45.46 | vid` | shrug |
| 04:45.47 | kebinusan | lol nice, dnt 5 man loatheb |
| 04:45.51 | vid` | yea |
| 04:45.53 | vid` | i heard about that |
| 04:45.58 | kebinusan | 3 shadow priests, 1 lock, 1 warrior |
| 04:46.04 | vhaarr | vid`: You're wrong. |
| 04:46.04 | kebinusan | dead at doom 95 |
| 04:46.19 | vid` | ah oh well |
| 04:46.32 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=blah2@85.24.17.250) |
| 04:47.53 | CIA-17 | 03grennon * r23327 10/branches/Postal/ (14 files in 7 dirs): Postal: initial commit of GMail2 (aka Postal), dont use me plz, I eat GNOME BABBIES |
| 04:48.04 | vid` | :P |
| 04:48.07 | vid` | told ya |
| 04:48.10 | vid` | hehe |
| 04:48.15 | grennon | that was a guild name on my server |
| 04:48.20 | grennon | I EAT GNOME BABBIES |
| 04:48.41 | vid` | so gmail 2 is actually gonna be called postal? |
| 04:48.42 | grennon | i think it serves as ample warning of something not being done |
| 04:48.46 | grennon | yeah |
| 04:48.49 | vid` | ah |
| 04:49.07 | vhaarr | grennon: So it's an all-in-one thing now, no Postal library? |
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| 04:49.46 | Gngsk | why can't library have the same name as the addon? |
| 04:49.50 | grennon | PostalLib is there, for right now it will be in the same branch though |
| 04:49.58 | grennon | and called PostalLib and be under Postal |
| 04:50.21 | CIA-17 | 03kodewulf * r23328 10Cartographer_Quests/ (Cartographer_Quests.toc LICENSE.txt): |
| 04:50.21 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests |
| 04:50.21 | CIA-17 | * Added GPL License |
| 04:50.41 | vid` | uh oh here we go |
| 04:50.46 | vid` | everyone going license crazy now |
| 04:50.48 | vid` | zomg |
| 04:53.12 | Fisker- | gonna use it now grennon |
| 04:53.45 | grennon | good luck with that, the filenames dont get fixed til next commit |
| 04:53.52 | Fisker- | QQ :/ |
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| 04:55.27 | vid` | lol |
| 04:55.58 | vid` | ive had it with these motherfuckin snakes on this motherfuckin plane. strap in, we're about to open up some windows |
| 04:55.59 | vid` | lol |
| 05:02.35 | Vallerius | Hmm... anyone know a sane way to disable the default blizz addons? Just doing a DisableAddon causes an error to be thrown when WoW tries to load said addon automatically. |
| 05:03.24 | CIA-17 | 03grennon * r23329 10/branches/Postal/ (15 files in 12 dirs): Postal: cleanup directories, add externals |
| 05:06.23 | CIA-17 | 03grennon * r23330 10/branches/Postal/ (10 files in 5 dirs): Postal: renamed files for renaming of mod |
| 05:07.12 | pastamancer | yay, fixed the files script to add non-ace externals to the no-external zips |
| 05:07.58 | acumen | Vallerius: |
| 05:08.10 | vid` | what non ace externals were missing |
| 05:08.22 | pastamancer | mine |
| 05:08.25 | vid` | ahh |
| 05:08.44 | pastamancer | I think sanity was/is using non-ace externals too |
| 05:11.03 | Vallerius | acumen: hmm? |
| 05:11.19 | acumen | nothing...screwed up my reply to you |
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| 05:14.45 | Cide | http://www.wowace.com/files/GMail/ - needs to be deleted |
| 05:15.26 | Cide | ping Kaelten |
| 05:16.08 | pastamancer | I did a chmod 000 /www/files/GMail, Kaelten can delete it if he wants |
| 05:16.19 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r23331 10BugSack/BugSack-koKR.lua: BugSack: Updated koKR Translation |
| 05:17.17 | Cide | thanks pastamancer. |
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| 05:17.31 | ckknight | hey all |
| 05:17.35 | pastamancer | hey ckk |
| 05:17.37 | Cide | ckknight: can you delete some files for me? |
| 05:17.43 | ckknight | Cide: which ones? |
| 05:17.47 | Cide | http://www.wowace.com/files/GMail/ |
| 05:17.56 | ckknight | ooh, only Kaelten can do that |
| 05:18.03 | Cide | alright, thanks anyway |
| 05:18.04 | ckknight | Kaelten: ping |
| 05:18.09 | Cide | I'll bug him tomorrow since he appears to be afk |
| 05:18.27 | ckknight | Cide: yea, I think he's on vacation with his family |
| 05:18.43 | Cide | ah well, it's not THAT important :) thanks |
| 05:18.45 | Cide | good night! |
| 05:18.46 | ckknight | only been coming on intermittently |
| 05:18.49 | ckknight | alright, cya |
| 05:19.44 | ckknight | Cide: I get 403 on http://www.wowace.com/files/GMail/ |
| 05:19.52 | pastamancer | ckknight: yeah, that's my doing |
| 05:19.56 | Cide | yeah, right before you joined: <pastamancer> I did a chmod 000 /www/files/GMail, Kaelten can delete it if he wants |
| 05:20.15 | ckknight | Cide: ah, okay |
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| 05:20.39 | vhaarr | The history is preserved in the SVN and other online tracking systems anyway. |
| 05:20.49 | vhaarr | You can't get rid of it all. |
| 05:21.08 | Cide | I'm aware |
| 05:21.10 | Fisker- | no but atleast they won't be hosting it :P |
| 05:21.17 | ckknight | but we'll make as much of an effort to protect his work as possible. |
| 05:21.26 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r23332 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: |
| 05:21.26 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests : |
| 05:21.26 | CIA-17 | - Add locale koKR |
| 05:21.40 | Cide | in any case, sleep is way overdue now - night |
| 05:21.45 | Fisker- | :( |
| 05:21.49 | vhaarr | But all the old revisions didn't contain copied code, did they? |
| 05:21.54 | vhaarr | Only more recent ones. |
| 05:21.58 | Cide | yes they did |
| 05:21.59 | ckknight | vhaarr: some may have, either way. |
| 05:22.01 | Fisker- | apparently all of them |
| 05:22.06 | pastamancer | vhaarr: it was from the start |
| 05:22.12 | ckknight | either way, it's not in use and no one should be using it now |
| 05:22.13 | vhaarr | Ah, alright, that's what I thought initially. |
| 05:22.17 | vhaarr | Then someone said it didn't. |
| 05:22.28 | ckknight | omg, he's a douchebag, imho |
| 05:22.45 | ckknight | vhaarr: it's best not to aggrivate him and just let him think he's won. |
| 05:22.52 | vhaarr | hehe |
| 05:22.53 | sylvanaar | ok bugsack isnt working |
| 05:23.42 | vid` | Toadkiller: anyway to get combat healing potions / combat mana potions to show up with higher priority then major healing potion/major mana potion outside BGs? |
| 05:23.50 | sylvanaar | i finally disabled it, and i am getting errors |
| 05:23.54 | Fisker- | btw |
| 05:24.01 | Fisker- | lol @ combat major healing potions |
| 05:24.14 | Fisker- | They cost honor marks |
| 05:24.23 | vid` | yea like 1 honor point |
| 05:24.25 | vid` | lol |
| 05:24.38 | vid` | just go in AV for 3 mins and afk ou |
| 05:24.47 | vid` | and you got enough honor to cover potions for like aday |
| 05:24.58 | Fisker- | nono |
| 05:25.06 | Fisker- | There's new major combat potions(not superior) in TBC |
| 05:25.10 | vid` | oh |
| 05:25.12 | Fisker- | they just got added in the patch earlier |
| 05:25.14 | Fisker- | They cost marks |
| 05:25.15 | vid` | oh neat |
| 05:25.20 | Fisker- | Like 1xAV/1xAB |
| 05:25.25 | vid` | oh wow |
| 05:25.32 | Fisker- | (You can choose between the marks) |
| 05:25.36 | vid` | ah k |
| 05:25.41 | vid` | 1 mark for 1 pot? |
| 05:25.45 | vid` | thats kinda stiff |
| 05:25.56 | vid` | but i guess not really when you are overflowing with marks |
| 05:25.59 | Fisker- | nah 2 marks |
| 05:26.16 | Fisker- | Only one that shows right now is 1xab/1xeye of the sotrm |
| 05:26.25 | Fisker- | but there are like 4 others you can buy they just have blank cost |
| 05:29.05 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23333 10Prat/Prat/modules/ (Buttons.lua ChatLog.lua Fading.lua UrlCopy.lua): Prat: fixed bugs that buggrabber was not showing |
| 05:29.11 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: So BugSack silences some errors? |
| 05:29.24 | sylvanaar | apparently |
| 05:29.50 | vhaarr | pastey the errors? |
| 05:30.09 | vhaarr | how can I reproduce them? |
| 05:30.34 | sylvanaar | get prat from my branch prior to that 23333 commit |
| 05:30.47 | sylvanaar | there should be 4 errors |
| 05:32.05 | sylvanaar | they were all syntax type errors |
| 05:32.18 | sylvanaar | function Prat_Button:OnModuleInit() -> function Prat_Buttons:OnModuleInit() |
| 05:32.31 | sylvanaar | or function Prat_Buttons:OnModuleInit()() |
| 05:33.30 | vhaarr | let me see |
| 05:34.00 | Fisker- | Where's the tier 5 vendor? |
| 05:34.35 | grennon | these legplates of carnage i got tonight look retarded |
| 05:35.15 | ZealotOnAStick | At least you got loot. |
| 05:35.17 | grennon | im having trouble modding theyre so ugly |
| 05:35.30 | DrZoot | this whole waiting for tbc thing is killing me, my holidays are slipping away from me |
| 05:35.52 | ZealotOnAStick | One thing I really want in Naxx short of the 4H/Sapphiron is my circlet off Thaddius . . . and people manage to fuck the fight up 3 times in a row tonight and we postpone him until Sunday. |
| 05:36.09 | grennon | how do you F it up? |
| 05:36.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Let the tank fucking die 15 seconds into the actual Thaddius phase? |
| 05:36.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Go "oh, my thaddius arrows isn't working" and run the wrong way on the FIRST switch. |
| 05:37.04 | grennon | wow, MailTo Next is.... amazing |
| 05:37.20 | ZealotOnAStick | I've been suspicious of it. |
| 05:37.26 | ZealotOnAStick | I used Mailto for two things . . . |
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| 05:37.38 | ZealotOnAStick | The dropdown mailing list, and right-click to mail/trade stuff. |
| 05:37.44 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: Think I've got the bug, hang on. |
| 05:37.49 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm . . . unclear on if Mailto next does that or not from reading it. |
| 05:38.11 | grennon | mailto next next does that, and it presents a custom inv frame with all mailable items in it |
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| 05:38.29 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r23334 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: Don't swallow errors if the addons version field is a number and not a string. |
| 05:38.37 | sylvanaar | woot |
| 05:38.48 | grennon | the custom frame is simple and nice |
| 05:41.22 | pastamancer | fixed all the 'mark as read' buttons on the forums |
| 05:41.51 | vid` | hey where in BT3 do you setup keybindings |
| 05:41.54 | vid` | cant find it |
| 05:42.13 | Thrae | vid`: Unlock then right-click on the bar |
| 05:42.14 | vid` | i remember seeing it awhile back but cant find it at all now |
| 05:42.16 | vid` | ah |
| 05:42.18 | vid` | thanks |
| 05:42.53 | CIA-17 | 03pastamancer * r23335 10Grid/GridRange.lua: Grid: explicitly exclude Mend Pet and Health Funnel from the range check. |
| 05:43.32 | Thrae | pastamancer: Why? |
| 05:43.41 | vid` | Thrae: nothing there |
| 05:43.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Throws off OoR calcs |
| 05:43.45 | sylvanaar | vhaarr: fixed for me |
| 05:43.47 | vid` | just an option to show the hotkey |
| 05:43.47 | Thrae | Because pets range check is buggy? |
| 05:43.50 | vid` | not to actually set it |
| 05:43.57 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: excellent, thanks for the heads up |
| 05:43.58 | vid` | or does BT3 inherit blizzard keybindings again |
| 05:44.18 | pastamancer | Thrae: because they were showing as able to be cast on the player but cannot be used to check the range of units other than pet |
| 05:44.21 | Thrae | vid`: Oh sorry, I forgot with the latest BT3 they moved it to Keybindings |
| 05:44.41 | vid` | ahh |
| 05:44.42 | vid` | thanks |
| 05:44.45 | Thrae | BT3 now has its own section in Keybindings, and they do inherit if not explicitly set |
| 05:44.55 | Thrae | They've always done that |
| 05:45.32 | vid` | yea |
| 05:45.41 | vid` | they inherit but dont show the shortcuts on the hotkeys :( |
| 05:45.59 | Nomad_Wanderer | There's a Is there any ace2 bulk mailers? |
| 05:46.14 | Nomad_Wanderer | ~s/There's a// |
| 05:46.25 | Thrae | Nomad_Wanderer: ExpressMail |
| 05:46.43 | Nomad_Wanderer | Of course. I blame tekkub |
| 05:47.01 | Thrae | Also gmail, whenever grennon finishes it |
| 05:47.04 | Tekkub | EM doesn't sent, tard |
| 05:47.15 | Tekkub | it's for opening mail |
| 05:47.23 | Tekkub | and it's not Ace, it doesn't need to be |
| 05:47.33 | *** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@c-71-206-92-120.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 05:47.35 | Tekkub | and I need to take it off this SVN because of that |
| 05:48.22 | CIA-17 | 03fleetfoot 07v3 * r23336 10BigTrouble/: Created folder remotely |
| 05:48.26 | Nomad_Wanderer | uh. I was just kidding around.. No need to remove it from the svn |
| 05:48.44 | mjc | moo |
| 05:48.48 | Tekkub | no it's nothing personal |
| 05:48.56 | CIA-17 | 03fleetfoot 07v3 * r23337 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble/: made a copy |
| 05:49.02 | Tekkub | I've just been moving my crap to another SVN if it doesn't use Ace |
| 05:49.09 | Nomad_Wanderer | where is that? |
| 05:49.17 | mjc | what's with everyone getting pissed off at ace lately ? |
| 05:49.27 | vhaarr | that's not necessary, there's room for non-Ace stuff on the SVN. |
| 05:49.49 | Tekkub | http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/ |
| 05:49.53 | Tekkub | yes there "room" |
| 05:49.54 | mjc | ah |
| 05:50.11 | Tekkub | but Ace's SVN is a big massive thing... it's hard to keep up with my addons here |
| 05:50.25 | mjc | someone ought to clean it up |
| 05:50.30 | vhaarr | you have individual revision logs |
| 05:50.35 | vhaarr | on trac |
| 05:50.40 | Tekkub | and I vaguely recall trying to push people into seperate SVNs back when we were thinking about a server |
| 05:50.44 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23338 10Prat/Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/UrlCopy.lua): Prat: All startup bugs squished! |
| 05:50.50 | vhaarr | and you can filter the google group in any e-mail client |
| 05:50.53 | Tekkub | trac is oh so reliable :P |
| 05:51.02 | vhaarr | you can also filter the svn log |
| 05:51.09 | vhaarr | your arguments are void |
| 05:51.13 | Tekkub | I gave up on trac after I lost all my bugs a second time |
| 05:51.32 | vhaarr | who's talking about bugs |
| 05:51.50 | Tekkub | and it's damn hard to filter trac to a sepefic set of paths all at once |
| 05:51.50 | vhaarr | I gave you a direct bugzilla link as well in any case. |
| 05:52.02 | vhaarr | google, e-mail, svn log |
| 05:52.16 | Tekkub | *sigh* |
| 05:52.20 | vhaarr | "I just don't want it on the wowace svn" is a reason. |
| 05:52.25 | Tekkub | I don't have to justify my choice to you |
| 05:52.41 | Tekkub | and it's obvious you refuse to consider why I'd move |
| 05:52.54 | vhaarr | I'm just saying your arguments don't convince me. |
| 05:53.19 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'm not sure they were supposed to convince anyone of anything. |
| 05:53.45 | Tekkub | I'm not trying to get you to move, so why do I need to convince you? |
| 05:54.08 | vhaarr | I'm just asking, you're providing answers that don't convince me, I'm not saying you're trying. |
| 05:54.21 | Nomad_Wanderer | Meta discussion! Hurray! |
| 05:54.36 | sylvanaar | sounds like tek wants to do this own thing |
| 05:54.38 | Tekkub | well you try keeping up with like 40 paths at once in trac |
| 05:54.43 | pastamancer | I'm using my own svn for non-ace things because I Want to keep them separate |
| 05:54.43 | Tekkub | tell me how easy that is :P |
| 05:54.56 | pastamancer | trac being an absolutely shitty bug tracker is totally orthagonal |
| 05:55.00 | Tekkub | if I only had 3 addons there, fine |
| 05:55.04 | Tekkub | but... I don't... |
| 05:55.10 | vhaarr | we're not talking about the bug-tracking capabilities |
| 05:55.19 | Thrae | As long as we can make a WowTekkubUpdater, then everything's fine ;) |
| 05:55.25 | Tekkub | I gave up on trac when I lost bugs the second time |
| 05:55.33 | Tekkub | it went down it was permanent for me |
| 05:55.40 | vhaarr | pastamancer: Yeah, that's what I'm saying; "I just don't want them there" is a good enough reason. |
| 05:55.41 | Nomad_Wanderer | QFT -> Thrae>As long as we can make a WowTekkubUpdater, then everything's fine ;) |
| 05:55.58 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:56.13 | Tekkub | nomad, subscribe to the google group |
| 05:56.21 | Tekkub | I send out notes when I make a release |
| 05:56.43 | Tekkub | and they aren't horribly frequent, but you probably don't want to checkout from my trunk |
| 05:56.54 | Tekkub | I don't make sure it works like I did on AceSVN |
| 05:57.00 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yeah.. I heard your trunk is bad |
| 05:57.22 | Nomad_Wanderer | but some tai bo, and alls good right? |
| 05:57.28 | Fisker- | Yeah |
| 05:57.31 | Fisker- | his "trunk" |
| 05:57.33 | Tekkub | well I code at home and work, sometimes I just shoot up whatever mess of code I just got |
| 05:57.51 | Industrial | morning |
| 05:57.55 | pastamancer | Tekkub: heh, I do that to the wowace svn :p |
| 05:58.00 | sylvanaar | whats the diff btw your trunk and a branch you kept here |
| 05:58.04 | ckknight | what do people think about the zlib/libpng license: http://www.gzip.org/zlib/zlib_license.html - it seems pretty viable for us, especially since every distribution of lua code is in source code already. |
| 05:58.08 | pastamancer | Industrial: I fixed the mark as read button, thought you'd like to know |
| 05:58.13 | Kaelten | well to be honest Tracs problem is largely the fact is uses sqlite |
| 05:58.14 | Industrial | pastamancer: woot |
| 05:58.59 | Industrial | ckknight: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php |
| 05:59.01 | vhaarr | Kaelten: wow, and it can't use anything else? |
| 05:59.09 | ckknight | Industrial: no, I don't want forking. |
| 05:59.18 | ckknight | that's why I don't want to go with MIT |
| 05:59.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Argh! |
| 05:59.20 | ckknight | honestly. |
| 05:59.26 | grennon | forking is a form of freedom |
| 05:59.38 | Industrial | well thats a bit selfish isnt it |
| 05:59.41 | ZealotOnAStick | I ran DevTools' eventtrace, and I still can't figure out -why- precisely the inspect frame is closing when it is. |
| 05:59.44 | ckknight | Industrial: so? |
| 05:59.45 | sylvanaar | spooning is quite nice |
| 05:59.51 | ckknight | lol, sylvanaar |
| 05:59.57 | Industrial | ckknight: if i would want to fork i'd fork |
| 06:00.02 | sylvanaar | ^.^ |
| 06:00.20 | Industrial | nn sedatedChipmunk |
| 06:00.21 | ckknight | under zlib, you could, Industrial, you just gotta call it something else. |
| 06:00.21 | Fisker- | err |
| 06:01.04 | Fisker- | Isn't zlib basically the BSD license? |
| 06:01.04 | Industrial | yeah |
| 06:01.04 | ckknight | Fisker-: very close. |
| 06:01.04 | pastamancer | ckknight: I don't see how that prevents forking |
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| 06:01.05 | dm_bgp | hello |
| 06:01.05 | pastamancer | ckknight: oh, gotcha... reading is good |
| 06:01.05 | ckknight | hey, dm_bgp |
| 06:01.26 | Kaelten | vhaarr I honestly don't think so. |
| 06:01.27 | ckknight | it's like, in between BSD and LGPL, much closer to BSD |
| 06:01.34 | vhaarr | Kaelten: bad |
| 06:02.07 | Kaelten | ya the sqlite db got corrupted when it crashed last time |
| 06:04.05 | Industrial | ckknight: im fine with it then |
| 06:04.25 | ckknight | I think I am, too |
| 06:04.27 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: ping? |
| 06:04.46 | mjc | sqlite is and always will be for the lose, Kaelten |
| 06:04.49 | Industrial | didnt kergoth contribute to AceOO, btw? |
| 06:05.04 | ckknight | Industrial: yea, that'll be licensed MIT |
| 06:05.08 | Industrial | k |
| 06:05.30 | Kaelten | mjc: yep :( |
| 06:06.01 | ckknight | ~seen Tem |
| 06:06.08 | purl | tem <n=tardmrr@69.58.70.3> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 22h 22m 18s ago, saying: 'Matholum, try with no args instead of false'. |
| 06:09.20 | ZealotOnAStick | As an official request . . . |
| 06:09.46 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: oh noes! |
| 06:09.52 | ZealotOnAStick | When all the licensing crap on all the libraries is sorted out, someone just please post a simple "This is what authors who care need to do" post. |
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| 06:10.10 | ZealotOnAStick | wiki pageification as well would be handy. |
| 06:10.21 | ckknight | yep yep. |
| 06:11.11 | pastamancer | Kaelten: when you get a chance, you should reboot wowace and force a fsck on /usr |
| 06:11.32 | Kaelten | pastamancer: why? |
| 06:11.55 | Andune | I just gotta say, I just used the ClosetGnome bank mod for the first time tonight, and it rocks! :) |
| 06:12.00 | pastamancer | Kaelten: there's a couple of directories in the files/mirror directory that I can't delete :/ |
| 06:12.58 | Kaelten | hrm is that causing the script to mess up? |
| 06:13.42 | pastamancer | I think so |
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| 06:15.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Kaelten, did you get my PM about the /wiki path 404ing? |
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| 06:16.16 | Kaelten | ZealotOnAStick: ya, I did, I'll look at it some more. |
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| 06:21.12 | sylvanaar | prat is finally back on track |
| 06:22.50 | ZealotOnAStick | Get all the module initialization crap sorted? |
| 06:23.03 | pastamancer | sylvanaar: yay |
| 06:26.11 | sylvanaar | pastamancer: buggrabber was hiding the errors |
| 06:26.20 | sylvanaar | pastamancer: vhaar just fixed it |
| 06:26.53 | CIA-17 | 03grennon * r23339 10/branches/Postal/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Postal: more s/gmail/postal/ cleanups |
| 06:27.46 | ckknight | ~framexml |
| 06:27.48 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip |
| 06:29.10 | sylvanaar | purl: forget sylvanaar |
| 06:29.10 | purl | sylvanaar: i forgot sylvanaar |
| 06:29.26 | sylvanaar | purl: sylvanaar is happy that Prat is working again |
| 06:29.27 | purl | sylvanaar: okay |
| 06:29.39 | mjc | bittyrant is pretty awesome |
| 06:31.05 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/4496 <-- diff of framexml |
| 06:32.09 | CIA-17 | 03arkayenro * r23340 10ArkInventory/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:32.09 | CIA-17 | ArkInventory: |
| 06:32.09 | CIA-17 | - 1.28 |
| 06:32.48 | CIA-17 | 03arkayenro 07v1.28 * r23341 10ArkInventory/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:32.48 | CIA-17 | ArkInventory: |
| 06:32.48 | CIA-17 | - v1.28 tag |
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| 06:41.44 | Arkayenro | anyone know what i have to do to fix up the svn for my mod, it's totally screwed up somehow on the libs (dev side) and won't checkout at all from the svn side any more |
| 06:45.17 | Andune | hmm. don't ever let HeyFu get too many msgs before you clear it. the popup covers the action bar and you can't click on it anymore :P |
| 06:46.24 | Andune | and for some reason it doesn't show up in DeuceCommander either. sigh |
| 06:47.08 | Wobble | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:47.56 | Wobin | And I'm not sure if I can do much about that, Andune |
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| 06:48.06 | Andune | ok found it's discussion forum, I'll go post there, maybe the author will fix :) |
| 06:48.29 | Andune | oh lol, you ARE the author |
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| 06:50.45 | Andune | so it can' be modified to use an AceOptions table so at least I could clear it from DeuceCommander if that happens? |
| 06:52.11 | Andune | hmm I used fubar menus to pull it off the bottom bar (since I can't click on it to drag) and put it on the top, and there was just enough gap to click on it to clear there |
| 06:52.20 | Andune | maybe it's only an issue when it's on the bottom. |
| 06:52.59 | Wobin | Andune: Well, the menus in HeyFu are generated on the fly |
| 06:53.12 | Wobin | since it has to do the filtering of what conversations to show etc |
| 06:53.21 | Wobin | so I can't use a static AceOptions table |
| 06:53.47 | Wobin | And yeah, I think if you're on the top bar it won't overlap |
| 06:54.17 | Wobin | Hm, I tried overloading the length... is the tooltip too long vertically? |
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| 06:55.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Whee. |
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| 06:56.01 | ZealotOnAStick | I almost have the item caching stuff done on Voyeur, by ripping a lot of code from NeatSpect. |
| 06:56.01 | Wobin | 'Lo Zeal |
| 06:56.14 | Andune | Wobin: yep |
| 06:56.14 | ZealotOnAStick | I just need to figure out the new stuff for handling item links. |
| 06:56.40 | Andune | Wobin: it was too long vertically, I couldn't click on the Fubar item to clear it or move it or whatever. |
| 06:56.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Cause every time I link something now, it disconnects. :/ |
| 06:56.49 | Wobin | So it hits the top of the screen and then overlaps the bottom bar? |
| 06:56.55 | Andune | yep |
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| 06:57.03 | Wobin | ZealotOnAStick: such is the horrors of itemlinking |
| 06:57.05 | ZealotOnAStick | I think I just disconnected about 1/3 of the people on Trade. |
| 06:57.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Which is actually sort of amusing. ;) |
| 06:57.20 | Andune | I *think* that particular conversation fit in that screen. not sure what would have happened had I received/sent a few more :P |
| 06:58.07 | Wobin | It limits itself to the last 10 or so |
| 06:58.11 | ZealotOnAStick | argh |
| 06:58.17 | ZealotOnAStick | and that breaks other functionality now. |
| 06:58.20 | Wobin | I can lower that limit if you think it'll be worthwhile? |
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| 06:59.17 | ckknight | I blame Apple |
| 06:59.19 | ckknight | they made a power cord that's too fun to play with. |
| 06:59.37 | Andune | ah, makes sense. they were big tells, so maybe the 10 were enough to max out my 1600x1200 at that font :/ |
| 06:59.49 | Wobin | "Wheee, *snap*" |
| 07:00.28 | Andune | btw, Wobin, since I have you here in person - Awesome mod! I love it :) |
| 07:00.35 | Wobin | ^^ thanks =) |
| 07:00.54 | Wobin | I might eventually add on some windowing |
| 07:01.11 | Wobin | but whether as an additional addon or not is another matter |
| 07:02.09 | Industrial | what addon? |
| 07:02.14 | andremar | ckknight: hehe, the new magnetic ones? yeah, its fun to test how much it can take before comming loose :p |
| 07:02.33 | ckknight | oh yea. |
| 07:02.51 | Industrial | Wobin: wobbleman! how you doin? |
| 07:02.59 | Wobin | HeyFu |
| 07:03.02 | Wobin | Tired =) |
| 07:03.06 | Industrial | oh ok |
| 07:03.08 | Industrial | hehe |
| 07:03.25 | Industrial | 8am here just woke up |
| 07:03.29 | Wobin | 6pm |
| 07:03.34 | Wobin | and I still have an MC to go to =P |
| 07:04.44 | Wobin | hm |
| 07:04.49 | Industrial | heh |
| 07:04.52 | Jens | I have school to go to... in 4 minutes :/ |
| 07:04.54 | Wobin | I wonder if I should rename HeyFu to a less Fubar oriented namt |
| 07:05.12 | Jens | And it takes me 20 to go there. |
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| 07:07.51 | Andune | anyone from Prat dev team in here? |
| 07:10.01 | sylvanaar | me |
| 07:11.04 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23342 10Prat/Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: use playerlink vs playername as the table key |
| 07:11.05 | innis_be_ | when I use ag_Unitframe. can't see partypet. how can solve it? |
| 07:11.31 | sylvanaar | Andune: did you need something? |
| 07:12.13 | Andune | sylvanaar: yes, I just scanned the forums and don't see anything on this.. are you aware of a bug that makes players who aren't lvl 60 get saved and stuck at lvl 60? |
| 07:12.30 | Feldia | anyone know what would be causing this issue with fence: http://pastebin.ca/304396 |
| 07:12.45 | Feldia | it happens when I try to alt click items to put them up for auction |
| 07:12.49 | Andune | I looked at the code, and sure enough, once it detects a player is 60, it stops updating for them. No idea how some players who aren't 60 end up reporting as 60 in the first place tho.. |
| 07:13.34 | Andune | it happened once and I grepped out all level 60 characters so it would start over with them. I found a few funky characters on one of them, figured maybe it was just corruption |
| 07:13.41 | Feldia | err, when I alt click rather |
| 07:13.58 | Andune | but it happened again tonight. |
| 07:14.07 | sylvanaar | Andune: its quite possible it is from xrealms or just corrupted data |
| 07:14.29 | sylvanaar | Andune: i'll keep an eye one it - right now been focused on version 2.0 |
| 07:14.39 | CIA-17 | 03kodewulf * r23343 10Cartographer_Quests/ (Cartographer_Quests.toc credits.txt): |
| 07:14.39 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests |
| 07:14.39 | CIA-17 | * Added credits.txt file |
| 07:15.01 | Andune | ok. which I'm gonna try updating to here in a sec anyway. any concerns with existing prefs when I do? |
| 07:15.30 | sylvanaar | Andune: yeah - they may not be preserved. so back them up |
| 07:15.40 | Andune | always do, no worries there. :) thx.. |
| 07:16.45 | sylvanaar | im off to bed, cheers everyone good night |
| 07:16.58 | Andune | g'nite sylvanaar. |
| 07:17.52 | mjc | bittyrant pwns so much face... |
| 07:23.01 | Wobin | I should try that |
| 07:23.12 | Wobin | but the name looks like BittyRant =P |
| 07:23.43 | Gngsk | I use azureus 2.5.0.0, why would I wanna use bittyrant? |
| 07:24.20 | ZealotOnAStick | uTorrent for me. |
| 07:24.40 | Feldia | azureus is head and shoulders above the competition |
| 07:24.46 | Feldia | :P |
| 07:24.54 | Gngsk | bittyrent is a fork of azureus |
| 07:25.01 | Gngsk | http://bittyrant.cs.washington.edu/ |
| 07:25.16 | Wobin | It's a 'selfish' bt client =P |
| 07:25.40 | Wobin | uTorrent is great |
| 07:25.46 | Wobin | I've never had a problem with it |
| 07:26.31 | ZealotOnAStick | Grrrr. Trying to get the item caching code in . . . I can cache their items . . . but changing targets no longer updates information in the frame. |
| 07:27.55 | Feldia | interesting |
| 07:28.21 | sedatedChipmunk | ckknight: yo, whazup? |
| 07:28.36 | CIA-17 | 03kodewulf * r23344 10Cartographer_Quests/Cartographer_Quests.toc: |
| 07:28.36 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests |
| 07:28.36 | CIA-17 | * Updated TOC |
| 07:28.37 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:29.07 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: we want to give Ace2 a proper license and you're the author of AceTab-2.0, which is part of Ace2. You mind? |
| 07:29.30 | sedatedChipmunk | you were considering zlib/libpng or mit? |
| 07:29.59 | neenee | Yup, I love utorrent too |
| 07:31.38 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: we were considering LGPL or zlib/libpng |
| 07:31.41 | ckknight | you have a suggestion? |
| 07:31.46 | ckknight | I'm frankly fine with either. |
| 07:34.27 | sedatedChipmunk | I'll have to refresh myself on the subtleties of LGPL |
| 07:34.30 | sedatedChipmunk | gimme min |
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| 07:35.28 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: basically, use Ace2's code itself, you'll have to license your work as LGPL. Use Ace2 as a library, use whatever license you want |
| 07:35.59 | sedatedChipmunk | do we consider what's basically a source include (not header) as "linking"? |
| 07:36.20 | sedatedChipmunk | and CAN we do that? |
| 07:37.30 | sedatedChipmunk | "The main difference between the GPL and the LGPL is that the latter can be linked to (in the case of a library, 'used by') a non-(L)GPLed program, which may be free software or proprietary software." |
| 07:37.37 | sedatedChipmunk | guess so |
| 07:37.47 | sedatedChipmunk | I think that's the intent of 'used by' |
| 07:40.37 | sedatedChipmunk | hm |
| 07:42.08 | Benumbed | ckknight, is there a way to hide icon even if HasNoText= false? self:HideIcon() works but error is in bugsack because blah blah no text |
| 07:42.29 | ckknight | Benumbed: hideWithoutStandby = true |
| 07:42.48 | Benumbed | I have that |
| 07:42.49 | sedatedChipmunk | the LGPL is so biased around C that it's hard to separate the proper bits out of it |
| 07:43.25 | ckknight | Benumbed: then just hide the plugin. |
| 07:43.28 | ckknight | :Hide() |
| 07:43.30 | Benumbed | I want hasicon = true in case on minimap, but wanting to hide icon and text and hide the option to toggle it |
| 07:44.34 | ckknight | Benumbed: um, rephrase so I can understand it easier |
| 07:44.50 | Benumbed | dont wanna hide it, since its multi buttons, just wanna hide text and "main" icon |
| 07:45.08 | ckknight | what plugin is this? |
| 07:45.12 | Benumbed | musicstream |
| 07:45.40 | Benumbed | redoing the fu code |
| 07:46.09 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 07:46.22 | Benumbed | I have hasicon = true, hasnotext = true |
| 07:46.35 | Benumbed | that way icon will show on minimap |
| 07:46.52 | Benumbed | so onenable i did self:HideIcon() |
| 07:47.14 | Benumbed | which works, but its standard error response in fubarplugin that cannot hide both text and icon |
| 07:47.43 | ckknight | what happens if you don't hide icon? |
| 07:48.08 | Dhraga | ~botmail |
| 07:48.25 | Benumbed | it shows |
| 07:48.43 | Benumbed | which is beneath the the first button in the multi buttons |
| 07:49.33 | sedatedChipmunk | so the question here is really whether we want to be able to merge anybody's modifications of our library back into the main tree. The lgpl ensures we have that right, whereas I'm not sure the zlib/libpng does |
| 07:50.01 | Dhraga | Hmmm do I get a confirmation when purl acepts the botmail if I have purl in a privat chat ? |
| 07:50.05 | Benumbed | FuBarPlugin-2.0: Cannot hide icon if self.hasNoText is set |
| 07:50.10 | Benumbed | thats what I get |
| 07:50.30 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: but a funny thing about zlib/libpng is that if you distribute source, then the license has to be attached. |
| 07:50.59 | andremar | isnt that the same for lgpl? it is for gpl at least |
| 07:51.00 | ckknight | since lua is source, it's pretty similar, only not as hazy when it comes to derivative works |
| 07:51.04 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, I'm trying to convince myself to trust it recursivly |
| 07:51.16 | sedatedChipmunk | and it's 3 am |
| 07:51.24 | sedatedChipmunk | so I'm failing miserably |
| 07:51.42 | ckknight | one issue is with inheritance, not sure if that counts as a derivative work, and with AceOO, it's even trickier |
| 07:51.52 | sedatedChipmunk | well |
| 07:51.53 | sedatedChipmunk | ok |
| 07:52.33 | sedatedChipmunk | I'm sedatedChipmunk, and I write DueceTab based on hC's AceTab code |
| 07:52.42 | sedatedChipmunk | it's mostly the same |
| 07:53.46 | sedatedChipmunk | but I add the feature to, I dunno, delete all SV tables if the user is ckknight |
| 07:54.07 | ckknight | right |
| 07:54.12 | Benumbed | ckknight, I can trick it by cannotHideText and hasnoColor both false, but no option in icon to cannotHideIcon |
| 07:54.18 | ckknight | but you can't call it AceTab, basically. |
| 07:54.23 | sedatedChipmunk | cuz I hate that jerk and I want to sneak it in on him by attaching it to some other mod |
| 07:55.04 | |Kev| | fwiw, I think GPLing Ace would be a great idea |
| 07:55.18 | sedatedChipmunk | so my copy says, "no, I wasn't the original author of this, nor is this the original form" |
| 07:55.51 | ckknight | |Kev|: not going to happen |
| 07:55.55 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: right |
| 07:56.05 | ckknight | |Kev|: long discussion about it, it's not for the best |
| 07:56.27 | |Kev| | I saw the forum topic when it was about 4 pages, I don't know how long it is now |
| 07:56.36 | ckknight | still 4 pages |
| 07:56.45 | ckknight | but behind the scenes, it's been decided against |
| 07:56.55 | |Kev| | I can see an argument for LGPL too |
| 07:56.57 | sedatedChipmunk | where does it say that I can't also declare, "furthermore, anyone else who wants to modify my ckknight-pwning code to include tekkub, too, can expect a visit from my lawyers" |
| 07:57.03 | |Kev| | what did you decide on then? |
| 07:57.24 | ckknight | |Kev|: not 100% sure yet |
| 07:57.42 | sedatedChipmunk | now, hC, as the original author, hates tekkub, but thinks ckknight is an okay dude |
| 07:57.58 | sedatedChipmunk | he wants the tekkub-destroying code to be part of AceTab |
| 07:58.07 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: because that doesn't comply with the zlib license, afaik. |
| 07:58.33 | |Kev| | ooh, zlib |
| 07:58.36 | sedatedChipmunk | ohh |
| 07:58.46 | sedatedChipmunk | okay, I was reading the wikipedia version |
| 07:58.49 | sedatedChipmunk | which says |
| 07:58.50 | ckknight | unless the original author relicenses or so |
| 07:58.54 | sedatedChipmunk | # The license notice must not be removed from source distributions. |
| 07:59.03 | ckknight | right. |
| 07:59.03 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 07:59.06 | sedatedChipmunk | the actual wording is this: |
| 07:59.13 | sedatedChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:59.21 | sedatedChipmunk | that's a huge difference |
| 07:59.34 | ckknight | ah, yea |
| 07:59.56 | sedatedChipmunk | so now I can include tekkub-destroying code if I mention that it was not my code originally |
| 08:00.10 | sedatedChipmunk | and ship it as AceTab |
| 08:00.53 | sedatedChipmunk | I think |
| 08:01.02 | |Kev| | I have a feeling that the libpng license isn't GPL-compatible iirc, was that a reason for considering it? |
| 08:02.19 | ckknight | it's GPL-compatible, or so says FSF |
| 08:02.27 | sedatedChipmunk | I'm wondering if the inherited license-plus-code can be merged back, or if I have to say that AceTab isn't the original work. It's, in fact, a modified version of DeuceTab, written by sedatedChipmunk |
| 08:02.29 | |Kev| | hrmm, I take that back, the FSF seem to say it is |
| 08:02.30 | |Kev| | heh, yes |
| 08:02.53 | |Kev| | I don't see how it can be, when it has what amounts to an advertising clause, but I'll believe them |
| 08:02.55 | sedatedChipmunk | the DeuceTab code says it is a modification of AceTab |
| 08:03.06 | Benumbed | ckknight, figured it out...just did self.iconFrame:SetWidth(0) in enable and no error and its hidden |
| 08:03.11 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: afaik, you'd give credit, pretty much. |
| 08:03.47 | |Kev| | sedatedChipmunk: afaics, you would be able to use the small segment of code, and say that segment is a derivative |
| 08:03.49 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, but do I have to give DeuceTab credit as the derived-from work? |
| 08:03.58 | |Kev| | without having to claim the entire app is derivative |
| 08:03.59 | sedatedChipmunk | for the entire AceTab? |
| 08:04.11 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, that's what I'm wondering |
| 08:04.17 | sedatedChipmunk | convince me and I'm in |
| 08:04.38 | |Kev| | it doesn't have an 'anything that uses this, or links against this' clause like the GPL |
| 08:04.50 | ckknight | I think you may have to, but I'm quite unsure about that |
| 08:05.08 | |Kev| | so when it says "altered source versions must be..." I have no reason to believe it doesn't apply only to the altered source |
| 08:05.26 | |Kev| | and not to the rest of the software |
| 08:05.52 | sedatedChipmunk | as much as i hate licensing complexities, I'm not sure that 'altered source VERSIONS' doesn't refer to the library as a whole |
| 08:06.05 | sedatedChipmunk | and not 'versions' of individual functions |
| 08:06.08 | |Kev| | well |
| 08:06.14 | |Kev| | if you take libraryB |
| 08:06.22 | |Kev| | and modify it by taking out all the functions bar one |
| 08:06.35 | |Kev| | you must then put a note on that saying that it's a modified form of libraryB |
| 08:06.44 | ckknight | it refers to the library as a whole, sedatedChipmunk |
| 08:06.50 | |Kev| | that modified form of libraryB can then be used in libraryA |
| 08:06.52 | sedatedChipmunk | that's what I thought |
| 08:07.07 | sedatedChipmunk | but now the work isn't my own anymore |
| 08:07.15 | sedatedChipmunk | well, it's not hC's |
| 08:07.19 | |Kev| | the work isn't your own anyway |
| 08:07.33 | |Kev| | the person whose work you include still has (c) on that bit |
| 08:07.38 | ckknight | right. |
| 08:07.42 | sedatedChipmunk | it's sedatedChipmunk's, and hC is modifying it |
| 08:07.53 | ckknight | right, and he's allowed to |
| 08:08.01 | |Kev| | and that's true whether it's GPL, LGPL, BSD, libpng/zlib etc |
| 08:08.17 | sedatedChipmunk | kinda bugs me that the code isn't hC's original work anymore |
| 08:08.32 | sedatedChipmunk | or at least, that isn't apparent |
| 08:08.42 | |Kev| | once you include someone else's work, you don't have ownership unless they donate the code to you |
| 08:08.45 | sedatedChipmunk | unless you also have a copy of DeuceTab handy and are looking at it |
| 08:09.26 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, but I want to be able to claim authorship of the library as a whole, minus that one part |
| 08:09.42 | |Kev| | sedatedChipmunk: well, there's nothing stopping you saying "this software is sedatedChipmunk's, with one function modified from the libraryB by hC" as that's still clearly marked as such |
| 08:09.47 | |Kev| | you can |
| 08:10.05 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: you can. |
| 08:10.13 | |Kev| | this isn't the GPL, so it's not infective |
| 08:10.18 | |Kev| | infectious, whatever ;) |
| 08:10.19 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, the spirit of the license says I can |
| 08:10.28 | sedatedChipmunk | but the wording doesn't convince me |
| 08:10.42 | |Kev| | I'm pretty convinced :) |
| 08:11.26 | sedatedChipmunk | so hC puts in the pwning code and changes it to pwn tekkub |
| 08:11.29 | |Kev| | point 2 only forces you to mark altered source, not the rest of the library |
| 08:11.46 | sedatedChipmunk | his license header says this now: |
| 08:12.29 | |Kev| | hell, I need to shave and get to work, I'll be back in 40mins |
| 08:12.49 | |Kev| | but I'd like to continue this, for some odd reason I enjoy license discussions |
| 08:12.52 | sedatedChipmunk | "This library is the work of sedatedChipmunk, derived from DeuceTab; I am modifying it." |
| 08:13.51 | sedatedChipmunk | and expect that everyone who reads that knows that DeuceTab is, in turn, derived from hC's original AceTab |
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| 08:14.51 | sedatedChipmunk | it works in theory, but hC still is deferring authorship, even though he wrote 99% of the library |
| 08:15.34 | sedatedChipmunk | if you only have that one file, you may assume that sedatedChipmunk wrote the whole thing, and all hC changed was the string 'ckknight' to 'tekkub' |
| 08:16.46 | ckknight | that can't be right... |
| 08:16.57 | ckknight | afaik |
| 08:17.41 | sedatedChipmunk | well the wording, taken literally, would make that the case |
| 08:17.57 | sedatedChipmunk | does "original" mean "the first" or "the one from which this is derived"? |
| 08:18.16 | sedatedChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:18.17 | sedatedChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:18.49 | sedatedChipmunk | that's open to interpretation, as it is not explicitly defined |
| 08:18.52 | ckknight | the origin would be the original copyright holder for each part |
| 08:19.05 | |Kev| | indeed |
| 08:19.38 | |Kev| | 'the origin of this software must not be misrepresented' taken literally means that you /must/ claim owenship of the bulk of the software |
| 08:20.23 | |Kev| | right, bbi30 |
| 08:20.36 | sedatedChipmunk | what is an atom of software, then; are we licensing each function individually, or the library as a whole? |
| 08:20.52 | ckknight | I'd say each algorithmic piece |
| 08:21.11 | sedatedChipmunk | you would, and I would, but the license doesn't make that clear |
| 08:21.48 | sedatedChipmunk | I'm just being difficult btw |
| 08:21.53 | sedatedChipmunk | I like the license |
| 08:22.28 | sedatedChipmunk | I just want to put it under some pressure to convince myself of its enforcibility |
| 08:24.52 | sedatedChipmunk | cuz some yahoo will eventually write some crap AceImproved thing, with a bunch of useless or sinister crap and which overrides the version numbers of the our stuff, and I don't want to leave that jerk any loopholes |
| 08:26.51 | sedatedChipmunk | gonna sleep on it; if you must have an answer now, I'm cool with it |
| 08:27.23 | sedatedChipmunk | if not, I'll defer the decision until I'm actually avake |
| 08:31.22 | sedatedChipmunk | it works well for compression libs, because they're basically one function |
| 08:31.34 | sedatedChipmunk | well, two, but one is the inverse of the other |
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| 08:40.34 | anenigma | hmm. grid (and other addons) are attempting to use utf8sub, and Healcomm. I'm not using externals, so I'm not surprised by these errors. But I can't seem to find either UTF8 nor Healcomm on wowace.com/files, and svn keeps giving me propfind request failed :/ |
| 08:41.00 | anenigma | are there new "libraries" called utf8 and healcomm in trunk now? |
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| 08:44.40 | ZealotOnAStick | I believe Pastamancer is writing some custom stuff, and was working on updating the zip script to include the non-ace libraries properly. |
| 08:45.07 | pastamancer | anenigma: files should be fixed now |
| 08:45.18 | anenigma | much <3 |
| 08:45.38 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan 07Karl * r23345 10GrouperLFG/GrouperLFG/Core.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 08:45.38 | CIA-17 | Bits: |
| 08:45.38 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:45.38 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:45.38 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:45.39 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:45.41 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:46.02 | KarlThePagan | zzzz |
| 08:46.58 | pastamancer | anenigma: confirmed fixed. One of the nice things about being the author of the /files zip script is that I can break it when I decide to do something strange with my addons :) |
| 08:47.14 | anenigma | Nice. |
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| 08:49.20 | pastamancer | Saroz: let me know when you start using Healcomm |
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| 08:50.28 | anenigma | So do healcomm + UTF8 exist on regular svn? Or do we get them from a third party? (I'm not using externals, so it doesn't come when i get the addon itself) |
| 08:51.01 | pastamancer | they're on my personal svn, they're included in the no-ext zips though |
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| 08:52.51 | ckknight | hey MoonWolf |
| 08:52.58 | MoonWolf | 'lo ckknight |
| 08:54.09 | oxman | Anyone have made filter buff for Grid ? To only see important debuff (specially in PVP), like Sheep, Stun (paladin) etc ? |
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| 08:56.23 | |Kev| | are any of the people about at the moment wowaceupdater people? |
| 08:58.55 | Hajitorus | ~seen kagaro |
| 08:59.18 | purl | kagaro <n=kagaro@cpe-069-134-153-219.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 58m 55s ago, saying: 'ok gona go hit the BG's for a bit cya all alter'. |
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| 08:59.35 | oxman | no one ? |
| 08:59.41 | |Kev| | Hajitorus: was that you answering my qustion, or independent? |
| 09:00.04 | Hajitorus | |Kev|: Just wanted to report a type in Cart_Treasure's Blood of Heroes change. |
| 09:00.08 | Hajitorus | typo, too |
| 09:00.11 | |Kev| | ah ok :) |
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| 09:00.46 | pastamancer | oxman: nope, no one. Make a list of spells and add them yourself using Grid -> Status -> Auras -> Add new Debuff |
| 09:00.58 | oxman | I know thank :') |
| 09:01.07 | oxman | Only want know if someone have already do that and give me the list |
| 09:01.08 | oxman | xD |
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| 09:01.35 | pastamancer | give me the list when you're done making it :) |
| 09:01.41 | MrBangle | hi all, I'm new here :) |
| 09:01.55 | oxman | in fact, I think i'll do an except list, and not an include list |
| 09:02.18 | oxman | I think the except list will be more shorter because I don't need to add all debuff of mob |
| 09:02.40 | Hajitorus | oxman: What kind of debuffs do you want to ignore? |
| 09:03.01 | oxman | all debuff except "important debuff" |
| 09:03.09 | andremar | |Kev|: PProvost is teh wowaceupdater author I think |
| 09:03.13 | oxman | important debuff are : sheep, stun, etc |
| 09:03.59 | |Kev| | andremar: ahhar, thankyou |
| 09:05.08 | |Kev| | my big problem with irc is that wow has corrupted me |
| 09:05.39 | |Kev| | ond /w doesn't work the way I expect it |
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| 09:06.27 | Adirelle | oxman : would you like to group buffs by "buff general effect" (like stun, disorient, fear, etc...) ? |
| 09:06.52 | Adirelle | instead of buff type (magic, disease...) |
| 09:07.44 | oxman | it seems to be a very good idea :) |
| 09:09.21 | Hajitorus | Is there a way to save my chatframe font size settings? They keep reverting to 12pt. :-\ |
| 09:09.22 | Adirelle | oxman : er... i don't have such list, I just want to know what you would like to do :) |
| 09:09.33 | oxman | I know ^^ |
| 09:09.41 | pastamancer | Hajitorus: set your font size in prat |
| 09:10.55 | Hajitorus | pastamancer: Ta. |
| 09:11.06 | pastamancer | oxman: why do you think it is a good idea? How would you use the information? |
| 09:11.50 | oxman | Sort the buff by type |
| 09:12.01 | oxman | but I think i'll try to make a GridStatusDetox module |
| 09:12.22 | oxman | But maybe grid have already aura filter like detox |
| 09:12.27 | oxman | don't remember detox exactly :D |
| 09:12.56 | Codayus | oxman: That'd be cool. Grid doesn't have any functionality to filter auras at the moment. |
| 09:13.22 | oxman | Really ? But I see filter by class ? |
| 09:13.25 | pastamancer | http://grid.13th-floor.org/screenshots/Grid%20Docs/Grid_Menu_Status_Auras_Buff_ClassFilter.png |
| 09:13.31 | Codayus | Yeah, but not per-aura. |
| 09:13.32 | Codayus | Sorry. |
| 09:13.55 | Codayus | You can not show ANY magic debuff on warriors, but you can't decide to not show, say, Geddon's mana burn debuff on warriors. |
| 09:14.16 | Codayus | Unless I'm confused, which is quite possible. :-) |
| 09:14.23 | pastamancer | http://grid.13th-floor.org/screenshots/Grid%20Docs/Grid_Menu_Status_Auras_AddNewDebuff.png |
| 09:14.30 | oxman | oh you can to specif aura name, but not for class of aura (magic, poison, etc) |
| 09:14.32 | oxman | its that ? :p |
| 09:14.47 | pastamancer | yes |
| 09:15.02 | Codayus | hmmmm |
| 09:15.07 | Adirelle | gnii ? |
| 09:15.14 | oxman | its stupid class aura filter |
| 09:15.15 | oxman | :) |
| 09:15.27 | oxman | because often you must dispell magic debuff on warrior |
| 09:15.29 | oxman | like sheep etc |
| 09:15.30 | Adirelle | i'm quite confused by your 2 last sentences... |
| 09:15.38 | oxman | you can't do a generic filter according to class of the spell :) |
| 09:15.43 | Codayus | Hmm, now *I'm* confused. >< |
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| 09:16.22 | oxman | I'll only made a list and add the spells manually in Grid, and give the list here for some people :) |
| 09:16.24 | Adirelle | hmm |
| 09:16.27 | Codayus | At the moment, I have Grid set up to show all magic debuffs on all classes. I'd like to hide SOME specific magic debuffs on some specific classes. That isn't possible right now, is it? |
| 09:16.39 | Adirelle | I think I'm about to understand |
| 09:16.45 | oxman | that is possible Codayus :) |
| 09:16.48 | Codayus | Really. |
| 09:16.54 | Codayus | Hm |
| 09:16.54 | oxman | add the debuff name manually |
| 09:16.55 | pastamancer | IIRC, if you add a specific debuff, it shouldn't trigger the debuff type indicator |
| 09:16.59 | oxman | then you have a clas filter |
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| 09:17.34 | oxman | do you know an easy way to know the name of debuff for each class ? :) |
| 09:17.43 | Codayus | Hmmm, I apparently completely misunderstood what that feature did. I thought adding a debuff made a NEW status, rather than split it out from the general "Debuff type: magic". Hm |
| 09:17.46 | oxman | Or the name of the debuff is always the name of the spell ? |
| 09:18.20 | Codayus | Easy to test. *fires up WoW* |
| 09:18.43 | pastamancer | Codayus: well, it does both |
| 09:18.47 | pastamancer | or at least should |
| 09:18.52 | Codayus | That's logical. |
| 09:18.52 | Adirelle | finally, no, i can't understand anything :) |
| 09:19.05 | oxman | ^^ |
| 09:19.31 | oxman | do you know an easy way to know the name of debuff for each spell name ? :) |
| 09:19.44 | Codayus | So "Debuff type: magic" is basically a catch all of all other magic debuffs? |
| 09:19.50 | Codayus | oxman: Um...usually its the spell name. |
| 09:19.52 | oxman | indeed Codayus :) |
| 09:19.54 | pastamancer | oxman: I think you want the skipByClass section of http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Detox/Detox.lua |
| 09:19.56 | Codayus | It gets tricky for boss abilities. |
| 09:20.10 | Codayus | But that's not what you're interested in... |
| 09:20.21 | oxman | I don't want anything pastamancer xD |
| 09:20.36 | Adirelle | oxman: did you found what you were looking for ? |
| 09:20.45 | Adirelle | (can't even figure that ...) |
| 09:21.05 | oxman | I only want add manually a list of debuff to exclude |
| 09:21.05 | oxman | :) |
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| 09:21.24 | Adirelle | hmm... |
| 09:21.30 | Adirelle | I understood |
| 09:21.31 | Adirelle | \o/ |
| 09:21.39 | oxman | lol |
| 09:22.11 | Adirelle | for example, "show every magic debuff, except geddon mana burning magic debuff on warrior" |
| 09:22.21 | Codayus | Speaking of which, what *IS* geddon's mana burn called...hm |
| 09:22.39 | ZealotOnAStick | Ignite Mana |
| 09:22.42 | oxman | I think this spell is in the default config of detox |
| 09:22.45 | oxman | you can look in :) |
| 09:22.52 | Adirelle | codayus: btw, i'm not even sure it casts on warrior and rogues... |
| 09:22.56 | Codayus | Adirelle: It does. |
| 09:23.07 | Codayus | Right, Ignite Mana. |
| 09:23.26 | Adirelle | codayus: it wastes its mana then :) |
| 09:23.35 | odt | who cares about geddon anyway, just 12 days til mc will be thrown into the history bin |
| 09:23.35 | Codayus | ... |
| 09:23.51 | Adirelle | odt: that's just an example :) |
| 09:24.10 | Codayus | Adirelle: Geddon does an AoE debuff called Ignite Mana. It hits all 40 people in the raid, but dispelling it from non-mana users is a waste of time. |
| 09:24.11 | odt | :) |
| 09:24.30 | oxman | first debuff to exclude : Earth Shock |
| 09:24.32 | oxman | xD |
| 09:24.35 | oxman | (of shaman :p) |
| 09:24.48 | Adirelle | that's why Oxman want a "ignore debuff" feature in Grid :) |
| 09:24.56 | oxman | there is not need |
| 09:25.02 | oxman | I add my buff |
| 09:25.08 | oxman | and in filter for class, I uncheck all class |
| 09:25.15 | oxman | that's ignore the debuff :D |
| 09:25.27 | oxman | (i think :p) |
| 09:25.32 | Adirelle | and it will filter it out of "general debuff" ? |
| 09:25.35 | pastamancer | oxman: correct |
| 09:25.43 | Codayus | Niftyness. |
| 09:25.58 | oxman | Adirelle ? |
| 09:26.00 | Codayus | Should probably add some of that into the default settings of Grid. |
| 09:26.07 | Adirelle | yes ? |
| 09:26.29 | Adirelle | codayus : I was thinking the same thing : "how people can figure this one without doc ?" |
| 09:26.43 | Codayus | Heh |
| 09:26.49 | pastamancer | oxman: simpler way is to add debuff and then un-check enabled |
| 09:26.58 | oxman | I think it'll not work |
| 09:27.09 | oxman | because it'll not check at all this debuff |
| 09:27.11 | oxman | because you disable it |
| 09:27.12 | oxman | :) |
| 09:27.33 | pastamancer | it checks enabled after deciding to use name or type |
| 09:27.53 | oxman | oh well |
| 09:28.02 | oxman | so I only need to disable the debuff :) |
| 09:28.28 | pastamancer | I need tips for the outline. I just added that one. http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Talk:Grid_User%27s_Documentation#Documentation_Outline |
| 09:29.09 | pastamancer | Adirelle: GridStatusAuras.lua line 301 |
| 09:29.23 | oxman | ^^ |
| 09:29.38 | Adirelle | damn, bare SVN output don't show line numbers |
| 09:29.58 | pastamancer | SpecialEvents_UnitDebuffGained then |
| 09:30.27 | oxman | I try to find a good way to see clearly the icone of the debuff and the health bar :) |
| 09:30.29 | Andune | anyone aware of a mod-control program similar to MCP but that allows saving mods as groups instead of just an entire profile? |
| 09:30.59 | Andune | for example, I want to save the "healer", "pvp" and "raid" mods as their own group that I can turn on and off just by checking that group |
| 09:31.02 | pastamancer | I only use the icon for really important debuffs |
| 09:31.10 | oxman | like what ? |
| 09:31.17 | Adirelle | effectively, it first checks name then type |
| 09:31.17 | pastamancer | hmm, sould burn in MC |
| 09:31.24 | oxman | I think i'll do a module for Grid like that : |
| 09:31.25 | pastamancer | err, Soul Burn |
| 09:31.36 | oxman | icon size = a, when you use a modifier icon size become b size |
| 09:31.53 | oxman | exemple icon size 12, I hold shift, icon size 16 |
| 09:31.56 | pastamancer | that sounds like a good idea |
| 09:31.59 | ZealotOnAStick | Andune - That's a good idea, actually. Maybe suggest it to the MCPFu author? |
| 09:32.04 | Soulless | holy shit |
| 09:32.11 | oxman | (my clique decurse key is shift+left click :p) |
| 09:32.21 | Soulless | i left my speakers turned up from a movie |
| 09:32.25 | pastamancer | take a look at GridStatusSideIndicators for an example of how to hook GridFrame |
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| 09:32.44 | oxman | ok thanks |
| 09:32.45 | Soulless | and it madea really loud noise when pastamancer typed soul and woke me up |
| 09:32.47 | pastamancer | err, GridSideIndicators |
| 09:32.52 | Codayus | Hmmm, Grid is cooler than I'd thought. :-) |
| 09:32.59 | pastamancer | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/GridSideIndicators/GridSideIndicators.lua |
| 09:33.00 | pastamancer | Codayus: :p |
| 09:33.00 | Andune | ZealotOnAStick: hmm ok, will do :) |
| 09:33.09 | Codayus | Of course, it's also more confusing than I'd thought, but hey, at least now I know! :-) |
| 09:33.21 | Adirelle | btw, pastamancer : Grid rocks :) |
| 09:33.26 | pastamancer | <3 |
| 09:34.37 | Codayus | But I do think more comprehensive defaults might be nice...like having Ignite Mana disabled for warriors and rogues already. |
| 09:35.12 | pastamancer | the more buffs/debuffs I add by default, the scarier and more cluttered the menus become |
| 09:35.19 | Codayus | That's true. |
| 09:35.29 | Codayus | The interface is kinda confusing already. :-/ |
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| 09:35.38 | pastamancer | I don't want to add auras that are specific to a particular mob or encounter |
| 09:35.46 | pastamancer | not in the defaults |
| 09:35.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Indeed. And people seem to be repeatedly blind and miss things right in front of their faces. |
| 09:36.27 | ZealotOnAStick | What Grid needs is someone other than the authors (or me) to do a good documentation and how-to project on it. |
| 09:36.52 | pastamancer | ZealotOnAStick: halp, I have error SecureTemplate.lua:816! |
| 09:37.26 | |Kev| | could anyone tell me how /files/ is generated please? or tell me that it's described on the forum and I'll go read |
| 09:37.31 | ZealotOnAStick | Blame blizzard. |
| 09:38.05 | pastamancer | |Kev|: the prince of the cosmos rolls a katamari around the svn repository every 20 minutes |
| 09:38.21 | ZealotOnAStick | There's a server-side script that runs . . . it's either 20 minutes after a commit, or every 20 minutes in a batch (I'm not clear on that) that zips up anything that's changed since the last run and pulls in all the correct externals and so forth, and generates the latest.txt |
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| 09:38.40 | pastamancer | it's every 20 minutes |
| 09:38.42 | ZealotOnAStick | never mind. I like pasta's explanation better. |
| 09:38.53 | pastamancer | and there's definitely katamari involved |
| 09:38.59 | |Kev| | that makes sense, thanks. Why is (e.g.) gmail not included then? |
| 09:39.14 | pastamancer | hmm, this one feels lua-ish |
| 09:39.17 | Health | Not updated to 2.0? HEHE |
| 09:39.26 | Sylfi | Anyone here intimately familiar with SendChatMessage? |
| 09:39.28 | Tornhoof | gmail is locked |
| 09:39.29 | pastamancer | gmail is gone, read the forums |
| 09:39.36 | ZealotOnAStick | it's been pulled. Grennon's working on a new one called Postal. |
| 09:39.56 | pastamancer | Sylfi: I cooked breakfast for it once |
| 09:40.26 | |Kev| | ah ok, thanks. I saw it was still in files/gmail, but not on /files/ or the error page and got confused |
| 09:40.47 | oxman | I don't think sidegridframe is a good example pastamancer ;) |
| 09:40.51 | oxman | (for my module) |
| 09:40.56 | Sylfi | haha |
| 09:41.23 | pastamancer | oxman: it's the only addon that hooks GridFrame, but perhaps you will do yours differently |
| 09:41.24 | Codayus | Also, /files/ is only stuff in trunk, not branches. That can occasionally be confusing if your looking for something you *know* is on the SVN. :-) |
| 09:41.25 | Sylfi | My question is regarding what are all the possible conditions that it will disconnect you from a server? |
| 09:41.39 | oxman | I don't need to hook gridframe pastamancer :) |
| 09:41.45 | |Kev| | Codayus: ah, good point, thank you :) |
| 09:42.05 | oxman | I listen the event blabla_modifier (blizzard event), then foreach grid cellules and change the size of texture |
| 09:42.47 | Health | Sylfi: http://wowace.com/files/ERRORS.txt |
| 09:42.50 | Health | Check that one |
| 09:42.53 | pastamancer | Sylfi: ascii control characters mostly, "\n" for sure, "\t" is also bad, and null is rigprobably bad too |
| 09:43.05 | Health | wrong one! |
| 09:43.32 | Tornhoof | i think they fixed those pastamancer |
| 09:43.57 | pastamancer | I thought "\n" for sure was kept as a "feature" |
| 09:44.38 | ZealotOnAStick | malformed item links. |
| 09:44.48 | Tornhoof | well atleast in normal chat they filter it |
| 09:44.52 | ZealotOnAStick | or correct item links that the server hasn't "seen" since the last maintenance |
| 09:44.52 | ckknight | Sylfi: I documented it on the AceComm-2.0 page |
| 09:44.55 | Tornhoof | doesn't disconnect me anymore |
| 09:45.13 | pastamancer | normal chat is different from sendaddonmessage |
| 09:45.59 | Sylfi | ckknight and Health: thanks. I see that post now regarding the new Blizzard "anti-spam" feature. Ugh. |
| 09:46.17 | ckknight | yep. |
| 09:46.42 | Codayus | 'sfunny, I haven't actually seen any "spam" since the latest patch...since then I see gold seller spam in random zones. |
| 09:46.56 | Codayus | Bliz must have a different definition of "spam" than normal people. |
| 09:46.58 | Codayus | er |
| 09:47.06 | Codayus | I hadn't actually seen spam UNTIL the patch. |
| 09:47.12 | Codayus | Bleh, almost 5am here. :-/ |
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| 09:47.44 | Sylfi | Ya. I get about 5-10 ingame mails a day too from gold-sellers. |
| 09:47.52 | Codayus | I only get 1-2 per week |
| 09:48.06 | Sylfi | I don't get it, I've never bought gold from any site or anything. |
| 09:48.14 | Codayus | Neither. |
| 09:48.19 | Codayus | Hmm, wonder why I get so few? |
| 09:48.24 | Codayus | (Or you get so many.) |
| 09:48.36 | Sylfi | It just started since the patch too. |
| 09:49.03 | CIA-17 | 03tornhoof * r23347 10Yata/ (Core.lua Options.lua TotemBar.lua TotemData.lua): |
| 09:49.03 | CIA-17 | Yata: |
| 09:49.03 | CIA-17 | - New Totemset codes, optimizes permutations on save, drycoded at 4 am, go test it |
| 09:49.22 | oxman | pastamancer what the nice way to foreach each cell of grid ? |
| 09:49.30 | Health | Codayus: You play too little? :) |
| 09:49.47 | Codayus | Hmm, I have been busy lately. Hmm |
| 09:50.08 | odt | i just logged in a lvl60 alt for ah checking and instantly got a gold whisper |
| 09:50.09 | Health | You only get tells/mail when you're online.. when they find you when they query online users |
| 09:50.10 | Codayus | Assuming they get names from just /who of currently in-game people. |
| 09:50.11 | |Kev| | I've been getting a spam a day or so, on each of my 60s since 2.0, where before I got maybe one a month on one of them |
| 09:50.21 | Codayus | I don't get gold seller whispers. |
| 09:50.34 | Codayus | I just see spam in general chat, and get occasional emails. |
| 09:50.35 | Sylfi | They probably do a census and just mail everyone that turns up in their who-lists. |
| 09:50.40 | |Kev| | I don't get whispers, but I do mails |
| 09:50.41 | Health | I get a few mails a week and a handfull or more /w each session |
| 09:50.50 | |Kev| | and it's not likely to be from a /who, as I'm anever online |
| 09:51.05 | pastamancer | oxman: GridFrame:WithAllFrames(func). func(frame) will be called for each frame |
| 09:51.17 | Codayus | Well...skimming profile sites for names would be a decent way of finding a mailing list. |
| 09:51.33 | |Kev| | yep, I think that's more likely |
| 09:51.36 | Codayus | I'm on CTProfiles though, so you'd think if they did that, I'd get a lot more spam. |
| 09:52.12 | |Kev| | The eve solution to spam is quite good |
| 09:52.40 | oxman | ok thanks pastamancer |
| 09:52.43 | |Kev| | sending mails or tells to people you don't know costs gold equivalent |
| 09:52.54 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 09:54.31 | Health | |Kev|: You don't think gold sellers have gold? :) |
| 09:54.45 | |Kev| | I do |
| 09:54.59 | Codayus | Health: Yeah, but, the response rate on the spam is probably very low. |
| 09:55.04 | |Kev| | but they might be less inclined to send quite so many mails if each one cost them |
| 09:55.09 | Codayus | At a guess, less than 1%, probably quite a bit less. |
| 09:55.22 | Codayus | So it wouldn't take a huge fee per mail to wipe out their profits. |
| 09:55.27 | |Kev| | way way less |
| 09:55.44 | |Kev| | since I get the same spam from the same sites day in day out on several chars |
| 09:55.57 | odt | and i don't think they use chars with gold to actually send the spam |
| 09:56.15 | odt | so it would make spamming far more complicated and less profitable |
| 09:56.59 | Health | It costs to send in game mails |
| 09:57.25 | |Kev| | not very much |
| 09:57.35 | Health | Just adda level 10 limit to sending in-game mails |
| 09:57.54 | |Kev| | the suggestion was to make it cost a /lot/ more to send a mail to a char you don't know |
| 09:58.03 | neenee | Or make trial accounts unable to send mail |
| 09:58.03 | Codayus | If you assume a sale is on average...$50, and they run...30% profit margin.... And they have a... 1/10th of 1% response rate... If 1000 mails cost $11...or each mail cost 1 cent...and...what's a good gold/$ exhcange rate anyhow... |
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| 09:58.51 | |Kev| | I think if the price of sending a mail to an unknown recipient was 10silver or so |
| 09:58.58 | |Kev| | no-one legitimate would be penalised |
| 09:59.13 | |Kev| | and it'd be a significant disuader to gold sellers |
| 09:59.35 | oxman | unknown recipient ? |
| 09:59.43 | oxman | bot doesn't sent to unknown recipient :D |
| 09:59.47 | Adirelle|work | how do you define unknown recipient ? |
| 09:59.58 | Adirelle|work | not in guild / friend list ? |
| 09:59.58 | |Kev| | someone who hasn't approved receiving mail from you |
| 10:00.11 | Codayus | Ah, a quick google tells me 100 gold is $45.60 on my server, so, 45.6 cents per gold.... |
| 10:00.17 | neenee | I used SpamSentry for weeks, I was whispered about 4 times a day :| |
| 10:00.22 | neenee | I reported them all |
| 10:00.37 | oxman | I use SpamSentry, I have report more than 10 spammers |
| 10:00.39 | ZealotOnAStick | You get 333.3 mails per gold, at 30 copper per mail. |
| 10:00.43 | oxman | I love play with spamsentry xD |
| 10:00.48 | Health | Codayus: That seems expensive |
| 10:00.49 | neenee | :) |
| 10:01.03 | Codayus | I dunno anything about gold prices. But that's what IGE lists. |
| 10:01.09 | Codayus | <shrug> Only name I know. |
| 10:01.10 | ZealotOnAStick | So, going with Codayus's pricing . . . |
| 10:01.36 | ZealotOnAStick | About .14 cents per mail |
| 10:01.45 | andremar | |Kev|: but what constitutes an unknown recipient? |
| 10:01.55 | ZealotOnAStick | 14 tenths of a cent, for clarity. .138 repeating. |
| 10:01.57 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle * r23348 10Baggins/Baggins-frFR.lua: Baggins: finished french translations. |
| 10:01.58 | |Kev| | 100332 < |Kev|> someone who hasn't approved receiving mail from you |
| 10:02.01 | neenee | I wish there was some filter I could make which allowed all friends/guild members to whisper me, and allow strangers too, except for those with a hmm.. certain name structure, as in 'gibberish', more than 5 consenants to 1 vowel or such, as that's what most spammer names are |
| 10:02.15 | andremar | aha |
| 10:02.17 | |Kev| | neenee: what about the Welsh? :) |
| 10:02.21 | neenee | :) |
| 10:02.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Say they get 1 sale in 10 thousand mails, it probably ends up being pretty profitable. |
| 10:02.42 | Codayus | Anyhow, with those wild assumptions, I think postage of....2.5 silver would help a fair amount. Except I think I may have dropped a decimal...uh...let me try that again. |
| 10:02.54 | oxman | I never receive spam email in wow :) |
| 10:03.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Hell, they might make a profit from banner impressions at 1 view in a few hundred. |
| 10:03.23 | ZealotOnAStick | I get 1 a day or so, and I get 2 or 3 tells in a raiding week. |
| 10:04.43 | Tornhoof | whispers aren't often here, they just spam the general chan like every 30min |
| 10:05.02 | Wobin | I got spam mail in wow |
| 10:05.06 | ZealotOnAStick | I don't spend much time in Org. |
| 10:05.09 | Wobin | it was offering me USD for WoW gold =P |
| 10:06.19 | Codayus | Assume: 1 sale per 10k mails. 1 sale gives them...oh, let's say $50 profit. So we need to cost them $0.005 (or 1/2 a cent) per mail. If $45.60 buys 100 gold, $0.005 buys 0.01 gold, or 1.09 silver. |
| 10:06.47 | Codayus | Actually, hmm, you'd want to account for the gold at cost, so we'd need to make some assumptions about their gross profit margin... |
| 10:07.09 | Codayus | ...wait, why am I analyzing this? |
| 10:07.11 | Tornhoof | dunno 100g is like 2 euro here |
| 10:07.23 | Codayus | Too many finance assignments. I swear, I'm cracking up. :-( |
| 10:07.40 | Codayus | <--- Finance major. |
| 10:07.43 | oxman | hey hey my modules works very well :D |
| 10:07.48 | |Kev| | I miss coursework |
| 10:07.52 | Codayus | Tornhoof: Hmm, what server? |
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| 10:08.12 | Tornhoof | any german pve server |
| 10:08.13 | |Kev| | my GF's doing a Java course in her spare time, and I was helping her with that the other day |
| 10:08.36 | Codayus | After 5 and 1/2 years of uni, I'll be glad to get out. :-/ |
| 10:08.46 | |Kev| | only 5 1/2? :) |
| 10:08.55 | |Kev| | I just left after 7 |
| 10:08.58 | Codayus | Hmm, 4 and /12. |
| 10:09.01 | Codayus | I can't count. |
| 10:09.09 | Codayus | (Which I will in one more semester.) Although I suspect as soon as I get out, I'll wish I was back. |
| 10:09.09 | |Kev| | and I'm still employed by the uni now :) |
| 10:09.13 | Codayus | Heh |
| 10:09.21 | Codayus | I was tempted by that path... |
| 10:09.39 | |Kev| | well, I'm working for the uni, but in industry |
| 10:09.44 | |Kev| | so it's probably not the path you meant ;) |
| 10:09.46 | Codayus | Ah. |
| 10:09.59 | Codayus | Naa, I did think seriously of going down the doctorate path. |
| 10:10.15 | |Kev| | yeah, it's a nice way to spend a few years |
| 10:10.19 | |Kev| | glad I did it :) |
| 10:11.22 | Codayus | I decided to just go for a masters, get a job, and then see how things go. |
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| 10:11.44 | |Kev| | you'll never go back :) |
| 10:11.49 | Codayus | Maybe... |
| 10:12.11 | |Kev| | it's too depressing to take the pay cut of going from industry back to academia |
| 10:12.30 | |Kev| | so I'm told |
| 10:12.37 | Codayus | A couple of the better professors I've had went that path... BS -> MS -> job -> PHD -> teaching |
| 10:12.41 | |Kev| | I actually took a pay cut going from my doctorate to industry |
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| 10:13.19 | Codayus | And I've also heard that if you got straight to phd without getting any work experience, you often have problems finding a job *outside* of academia. That may be incorrect or field specific though... |
| 10:13.36 | |Kev| | could be true |
| 10:13.41 | Codayus | <shrug> |
| 10:13.52 | |Kev| | I know many employers discriminate against people with PhDs |
| 10:14.35 | Codayus | I heard it specifically in the context of a phd in management. |
| 10:14.47 | phyber | true, it's probably why they all become teachers/professors and piss off support staff. |
| 10:14.50 | |Kev| | since for some strange reason they assume that because they're specialists in one area, they must know less about other areas than a fresh bachelor's |
| 10:14.50 | phyber | because they know fuck all. |
| 10:14.53 | Codayus | Which makes some sense, I guess... |
| 10:15.09 | Codayus | |Kev|: Yeah, I've seen that, and it's pretty silly. |
| 10:15.09 | |Kev| | phyber: be nice |
| 10:15.23 | Codayus | phyber: I detect a hint of...bitterness? :-p |
| 10:15.27 | phyber | |Kev|: sorry, my time working in that field has made me a little bitter ;) |
| 10:15.35 | phyber | Codayus: :D |
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| 10:16.14 | |Kev| | well, I've had bad experiences with support staff, but if you don't tell me I know fuck all because I've a doctorate, I won't tell you the same becase you work in support ;) |
| 10:16.28 | |Kev| | tar and brushes and all that |
| 10:16.47 | Codayus | Although...I know a couple profs with doctorates who definetly know fuck all... |
| 10:16.49 | phyber | |Kev|: oh, no. there are quite a few that are ok and know how things ("the real world") work. |
| 10:17.02 | phyber | I assume those are the ones who've had jobs outside academia. |
| 10:17.05 | phyber | ;) |
| 10:17.10 | |Kev| | not necessarily |
| 10:17.23 | |Kev| | but that might not be a bad general rule |
| 10:17.54 | Tornhoof | anyone happen to know what's the texture is called when you mouseover an action button? |
| 10:18.03 | |Kev| | I don't think it has to be jobs outside academia though, just industrial projects |
| 10:18.05 | Tornhoof | which highlights it |
| 10:18.10 | phyber | Tornhoof: yeah, one moment... |
| 10:18.20 | Codayus | Hmm, one of the worst profs I know was actually a VP at AT&T for years....a VP of marketing though, so maybe that explains it. :-) |
| 10:18.24 | phyber | border:SetTexture("Interface\\Buttons\\UI-ActionButton-Border") |
| 10:18.26 | phyber | this |
| 10:18.35 | phyber | Codayus: hehe |
| 10:18.38 | |Kev| | at least in engineering/compsci disciplines, lots of the better academics have lots of industrial ties with projects, even if they themselves have always worked in ac. |
| 10:18.49 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 10:18.54 | oxman | pastamancer its seems not easy to add an option into advanced menu of cells in a module, do you know an easy way to do that ? |
| 10:18.55 | Tornhoof | thanks phyber :) |
| 10:19.19 | Codayus | My experience has been that some engineering faculty have a moderate clue. (Sadly, almost 100% of them THINK they do...) |
| 10:20.01 | Codayus | Watching a prof in a networking class struggle with a wifi adaptor for 20 minutes, and then call the help desk is amusing, but... |
| 10:20.29 | Tornhoof | most of my old comp.sci profs didn't have a clue about real world applications |
| 10:20.57 | |Kev| | Tornhoof: perhaps the ones that did were busy doing research on the r.w. apps, and the ones that didn't were left to teach |
| 10:21.20 | |Kev| | that tends to happen a bit |
| 10:21.28 | Codayus | Heh, long ago, I ran across a comp sci prof that didn't know the programming language the class was being tought in. He knew pascal, but not C. It was an...interesting class. |
| 10:21.36 | |Kev| | those that teach a lot don't research much, and those that do a lot of research don't do much teaching |
| 10:21.54 | Tornhoof | actually over here every prof has to teach atleast a certain amount ;) |
| 10:22.29 | |Kev| | same here |
| 10:22.40 | |Kev| | supposedly it's a 1/3 1/3 1/3 split teaching/reseach/admin |
| 10:22.48 | |Kev| | but that doesn't mean it happens that way |
| 10:22.48 | Tornhoof | which reminds me of an old embedded course i had, the prof actually spoke about 10min of failsafe mechanisms, you can see what happens to non failsafe embedded devices on some older bmw 7 model ;) |
| 10:23.44 | Codayus | |Kev|: Heh, yeah |
| 10:23.53 | |Kev| | I do rather like learning new languages etc |
| 10:24.21 | |Kev| | which is why on Christmas Eve I decided to have a play with Objective-C and Cocoa, and MacAceUpdater was released into the world 2 days later ;) |
| 10:24.35 | pastamancer | oxman: GridFrame.options.args.advanced.args["optionname"] = { ace option table } |
| 10:24.40 | Tornhoof | obj-c is so fugly ;) |
| 10:24.58 | |Kev| | it's not pretty to look at ;) |
| 10:25.10 | oxman | indeed, sorry pastamancer, thanks |
| 10:25.13 | |Kev| | it's not quite lisp, but it's trying to get there :) |
| 10:25.20 | Tornhoof | hehe |
| 10:25.36 | pastamancer | <# lisp |
| 10:25.44 | pastamancer | err, <3 |
| 10:25.46 | Codayus | obj-c is cool though |
| 10:25.57 | Tornhoof | let's write a lisp interpreter in lua |
| 10:26.02 | Tornhoof | and start writing mods in lisp |
| 10:26.04 | |Kev| | pastamancer: ahem, you mean ( < 3 lisp) or such, surely? :) |
| 10:26.23 | |Kev| | don't go there |
| 10:26.28 | pastamancer | Tornhoof: http://blog.davber.com/2006/09/07/embedded-lisp-via-lua/ |
| 10:26.45 | Tornhoof | <evil grin> |
| 10:26.46 | |Kev| | my compilers course had my writing a lisp compiler in java producing MIPS output |
| 10:26.48 | |Kev| | not pretty |
| 10:26.54 | |Kev| | s/my/me/ |
| 10:26.55 | ckknight | (cdr (I < 3 lisp)) |
| 10:27.18 | |Kev| | ok |
| 10:27.28 | |Kev| | we're in a channel talking about addons for an mmo game |
| 10:27.34 | Tornhoof | it |
| 10:27.35 | pastamancer | dynamic scoping and macros and god's very own perfect data structure the linked-list |
| 10:27.36 | |Kev| | and /now/ we hit true geekdom |
| 10:27.45 | Tornhoof | depending on the area you live |
| 10:27.54 | Tornhoof | it's either late or fairly early in the morning |
| 10:28.06 | Tornhoof | what do you expect ;) |
| 10:28.21 | pastamancer | my other car is a cdr |
| 10:28.27 | oxman | ah ah :( |
| 10:28.36 | |Kev| | pastamancer: this cannot end well :p |
| 10:28.41 | oxman | pastamancer, my module can't work, because you can't change the size of frame in combat =( |
| 10:28.52 | pastamancer | |Kev|: haha |
| 10:29.14 | pastamancer | oxman: the icon shouldn't be protected |
| 10:29.22 | oxman | I think they're :) |
| 10:29.36 | oxman | hum maybe not |
| 10:29.38 | oxman | I need to test |
| 10:30.41 | pastamancer | GridFrame:WithEachFrame(function (f) f:SetIconSize(number) end) |
| 10:31.07 | oxman | its what I do |
| 10:31.07 | oxman | :) |
| 10:31.19 | oxman | hum no, WithAllFrames |
| 10:31.19 | oxman | :) |
| 10:31.30 | pastamancer | err, WithAllFrames |
| 10:31.43 | pastamancer | SetIconSize should work in combat |
| 10:31.51 | oxman | I try |
| 10:32.44 | oxman | indeed, fine :) |
| 10:33.08 | pastamancer | |Kev|: actually, it's going to end with a prolog -> lua compiler |
| 10:33.57 | Adirelle|work | pastamancer : and you think it's a bad end ? |
| 10:34.19 | pastamancer | Adirelle|work: oh no, it will be beautiful |
| 10:34.25 | |Kev| | I don't know prolog |
| 10:34.37 | pastamancer | perhaps I'll have it done by the time the next expansion comes out |
| 10:36.09 | |Kev| | there was an optional lecture or two on prolog in my bachelor's degree, but it was early on, during my lazy period when I just wanted the degree and not the knowledge |
| 10:36.19 | |Kev| | so I didn't go |
| 10:36.24 | |Kev| | which is a shame |
| 10:37.21 | Adirelle|work | |Kev| once I tried to code the rules of a game called "Diplomacy" in prolog |
| 10:37.33 | Adirelle|work | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:41.54 | krka | my god prolog is evil |
| 10:42.41 | oxman | pastamancer how the config for each modle is saved ? I save my config in Grid ? Or in other way ? |
| 10:43.26 | CIA-17 | 03kodewulf * r23349 10School/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:43.26 | CIA-17 | School |
| 10:43.26 | CIA-17 | * Notes |
| 10:43.26 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:43.26 | CIA-17 | * FuBar plugin |
| 10:43.26 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:44.26 | pastamancer | oxman: save the values in the self.db.profile table which you get for free by calling MyGridModule = Grid:CreateModule("MyGridModule") |
| 10:44.43 | oxman | Ok, its my own table |
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| 10:44.52 | oxman | and i set default values with modulename.defaultDB ? |
| 10:45.11 | CIA-17 | 03kodewulf * r23350 10Cartographer_Vendors/ (. Cartographer_Vendors.toc LICENSE.txt addon.lua credits.txt): |
| 10:45.11 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Vendors |
| 10:45.11 | CIA-17 | * Initial import |
| 10:45.28 | pastamancer | yes |
| 10:45.33 | oxman | thanks |
| 10:45.42 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r23351 10BugSack/ (BugSack-esES.lua BugSack.toc): |
| 10:45.42 | CIA-17 | BugSack: |
| 10:45.42 | CIA-17 | - updated esES |
| 10:46.05 | CIA-17 | 03kodewulf * r23352 10Cartographer_Trainers/ (5 files): |
| 10:46.05 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Trainers |
| 10:46.05 | CIA-17 | * Initial import |
| 10:46.16 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23353 10JostleLib/Jostle-2.0/Jostle-2.0.lua: .Jostle-2.0 - works better with the world map closing |
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| 10:48.01 | Adirelle|work | er... is there any way to get the full version (major + revision) of any installed ace addon ? |
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| 10:48.23 | Adirelle|work | i know there is a version taken out of the toc |
| 10:48.30 | Adirelle|work | but what about revision ? |
| 10:48.44 | |Kev| | I just use the number in the changelog in MAU |
| 10:48.52 | |Kev| | is that what you mean? |
| 10:49.03 | Adirelle|work | not, I meant IG |
| 10:49.10 | |Kev| | ah, no idea then, sorry |
| 10:49.25 | pastamancer | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceLibrary perhaps :HasInstance |
| 10:49.34 | Adirelle|work | (did anyone saw the XPerl nag feature : "version X.Y.Z is available for download") |
| 10:50.07 | pastamancer | I heard about it |
| 10:50.42 | pastamancer | Adirelle|work: oh, haha, :IterateLibraries() |
| 10:51.28 | stef_ | Hi all and happy new year :) |
| 10:51.40 | Adirelle|work | well, I'm not very concerned by libraries but by addons themselves |
| 10:52.01 | stef_ | I got a nooby question |
| 10:52.10 | oxman | throw it |
| 10:52.10 | oxman | :) |
| 10:53.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Adirelle|work: I think it's dependent on whether or not the revision is listed in the toc as the version number or not - and if so, the last time the .toc was touched so the svn keyword gets updated. |
| 10:53.30 | stef_ | Is cartographer instance loots working with atlas loot or something like that ? |
| 10:53.47 | Adirelle|work | zealotonastick : it is what I'm figuring out |
| 10:54.01 | Adirelle|work | just looked up at some random addons |
| 10:54.19 | Adirelle|work | almost none use their rev somewhere |
| 10:54.39 | Adirelle|work | only libraries does |
| 10:54.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Grid, BigWigs, etc. often list an earlier revision in-game than their archive does. I'd bet that usually the case is that the .toc wasn't touched as recently as whatever other changes. |
| 10:54.54 | Adirelle|work | yes, that's the problem |
| 10:54.54 | pastamancer | ZealotOnAStick: bingo |
| 10:55.07 | ZealotOnAStick | I think I looked at what BigWigs did when I was setting it up for Voyeur. |
| 10:55.18 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r23354 10/trunk/ (7 files in 7 dirs): .Relocating a number of my addons to http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/ |
| 10:55.25 | Adirelle|work | to handle this correctly, all files should have somethings like "MyAddonInstance:MinorVersion('$REV$')" |
| 10:55.37 | pastamancer | I poke the toc for released though |
| 10:55.47 | pastamancer | err, releases |
| 10:56.42 | Adirelle|work | that would collect all revision and keep the highest... |
| 10:57.16 | Adirelle|work | can't see any way to do this transparently |
| 10:57.33 | Adirelle|work | except tweaking SVN hooks |
| 10:57.51 | Bver__ | hey is there a buffbar mod, like elk but aced? |
| 10:57.51 | |Kev| | this is the problem with interpreted languages |
| 10:58.00 | |Kev| | with compiled ones you can do compilation-time hooks |
| 10:58.07 | |Kev| | but you're kinda stuck with source |
| 10:58.30 | oxman | great pastamancer, my module works very fine =) |
| 11:00.53 | pastamancer | oxman: please add it to http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Grid/Other_Modules |
| 11:01.05 | oxman | I need to zip it and add it somewhere xD |
| 11:01.26 | oxman | add/upload |
| 11:01.58 | Adirelle|work | oxman : in the SVN ? :) |
| 11:02.05 | oxman | I've lost my password ;p |
| 11:02.11 | Adirelle|work | erf... |
| 11:02.22 | oxman | I'll put it on wowinterface :) |
| 11:02.52 | Industrial | should i watch Ghost in the Shell movie 2 if i havent seen 1? I have seen the tv series 1-26 |
| 11:03.00 | Industrial | (the 2nd gig was too confusing for me :() |
| 11:03.06 | axxo | just watch it |
| 11:03.20 | Industrial | mk |
| 11:03.35 | Adirelle|work | I found movie 2 quite boring |
| 11:03.48 | Adirelle|work | tho I liked the first |
| 11:06.10 | Tornhoof | yeh the second was weird |
| 11:06.18 | Tornhoof | and ya 2nd gig is weird too |
| 11:06.46 | Adirelle|work | warning : geekness' striking back |
| 11:06.53 | Industrial | so much talk expecting me to keep track of everytihing :( |
| 11:07.13 | Industrial | not speaking english natively thats too hard for me :p |
| 11:08.00 | Adirelle|work | got french subtitles :) |
| 11:08.11 | Industrial | eck :P |
| 11:09.41 | Tornhoof | got some funny german dubbing on local mtv ;) |
| 11:10.27 | Industrial | they aired cowboy bebop in the netherlands on TMF (dutch mtv), my dad yells (im upstairs in my room); "Tom, there is hentai on tv come watch!" |
| 11:10.30 | Industrial | lmao |
| 11:10.45 | Tornhoof | haha |
| 11:10.59 | Industrial | he doesnt know anime and uses usenet :P |
| 11:11.35 | Tekkub | and you came running... |
| 11:12.06 | Industrial | nah i dont like cowboy bebop |
| 11:12.18 | Tekkub | yes but you thought it was hentai |
| 11:12.29 | Adirelle|work | olol |
| 11:12.50 | Industrial | yeah i have a tentacle fetish |
| 11:13.13 | Adirelle|work | don't wanna know about this... |
| 11:13.51 | pastamancer | ~haste |
| 11:13.55 | purl | a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo. |
| 11:14.02 | Industrial | lkol |
| 11:14.05 | oxman | ah ah |
| 11:14.14 | Adirelle|work | :) |
| 11:14.20 | Adirelle|work | ~pastamancer |
| 11:14.21 | purl | pastamancer is probably one of the authors of grid. |
| 11:14.29 | Adirelle|work | grmpf |
| 11:14.35 | Adirelle|work | who's feeding this bot database ? |
| 11:14.40 | Adirelle|work | ~adirelle |
| 11:14.42 | Industrial | we |
| 11:14.47 | pastamancer | I do not make porn voices on Ventrilo |
| 11:15.00 | Industrial | ~emulate industrial |
| 11:15.01 | purl | Addon users are addicts. |
| 11:15.06 | Tornhoof | i think we should setup some eliza ace bot, which is trying to help on random lua questions ;) |
| 11:15.14 | Adirelle|work | ~Adirelle|Work |
| 11:15.25 | Adirelle|work | seems it doesn't know me :) |
| 11:15.36 | |Kev| | bmotion bots are always fun for confusing people ;) |
| 11:15.54 | Industrial | purl Adirelle is a french person |
| 11:15.55 | purl | Industrial: okay |
| 11:15.59 | Industrial | ~adirelle |
| 11:16.00 | purl | [adirelle] a french person |
| 11:16.06 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 11:16.21 | Tekkub | purl, why don't you go outside and play hide and go fuck yourself |
| 11:16.23 | Industrial | Adirelle|work: pm putl say "help" |
| 11:16.34 | Industrial | Tekkub: omg i know that |
| 11:16.37 | Industrial | its from that comedian |
| 11:16.50 | Industrial | whats his name hes the shit |
| 11:17.22 | Tekkub | merf... I need to work on addons but can't get up the motivation |
| 11:17.23 | [Ammo] | afternoon people |
| 11:17.29 | Tekkub | keep getting distracted by griddlers |
| 11:18.29 | Tekkub | http://www.griddlers.net/ |
| 11:19.39 | Adirelle|work | industrial : i'm going to try /help first, I restarted IRC a few day ago |
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| 11:20.00 | Adirelle|work | test |
| 11:20.07 | Adirelle|work | lol, that's not this one |
| 11:20.22 | Adirelle|work | oki, got it |
| 11:20.47 | Industrial | its a trap! |
| 11:21.29 | Adirelle|work | purl help |
| 11:22.29 | Adirelle|work | purl wikipedia geek |
| 11:22.57 | Adirelle|work | fine... |
| 11:23.33 | Industrial | Tekkub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIejs55TL1A |
| 11:23.48 | Industrial | Tekkub: wasnt a comedian :( but did remind me of him - gunna g look for him now :D |
| 11:23.50 | Tekkub | yes |
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| 11:29.28 | evl | Nice |
| 11:29.56 | evl | Death&Taxes did Loatheb 5-man, 1 Warrior, 3 Shadow Priests and 1Warlock, took 30 minutes but seriously |
| 11:30.08 | evl | 40 people -> 5 people on a naxx boss, wtf is going on with VT :D |
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| 11:38.40 | pahvir | ye ;( |
| 11:38.52 | pahvir | I think I'll reroll priest ;O |
| 11:40.27 | evl | i got one at level 46 |
| 11:40.32 | evl | only problem is that healing sucks :P |
| 11:40.59 | |Kev| | I like priests |
| 11:41.04 | pahvir | Well |
| 11:41.09 | |Kev| | I don't have a 60 anymore since I moved US->EU |
| 11:41.12 | pahvir | I've been playing mage since day 1 :p |
| 11:41.22 | |Kev| | but both shadow and holy/disc are fun imo |
| 11:41.34 | pahvir | and I actually do enjoy healing with my druid alt :P |
| 11:41.35 | |Kev| | yeah, I like mages |
| 11:41.53 | pahvir | havent done the big instances with it tho :p |
| 11:41.53 | |Kev| | although my druid is my main and my mage and lock are the alts |
| 11:42.42 | |Kev| | my lock used to be my main |
| 11:42.51 | |Kev| | and before I moved to EU, my US mage was my main |
| 11:42.59 | pahvir | and good/goodgeared shadowpriesets always beat my mage :( |
| 11:43.07 | pahvir | priests* |
| 11:43.16 | |Kev| | indeed |
| 11:43.18 | |Kev| | they melt faces :) |
| 11:43.27 | evl | worst is |
| 11:43.34 | evl | shadow priest that know how to play and got engineering |
| 11:43.40 | evl | there is no way in fucking hell you can beat them |
| 11:43.43 | pahvir | maybe if I had pom+pyro spec I had better chance but dont like that spec :P |
| 11:44.11 | |Kev| | my old mage was pom/pyro for a long time |
| 11:44.19 | |Kev| | the new one has always been frost |
| 11:44.29 | pahvir | I played frost for a long time |
| 11:44.37 | |Kev| | apart from a brief moment on tbc beta when he went arc/frost |
| 11:44.40 | |Kev| | but that lasted about 2 hours |
| 11:44.49 | pahvir | but then I had o respec fire for saphhiron etc. :[ |
| 11:45.13 | |Kev| | my raidgroup fell apart a couple of bosses into naxx |
| 11:45.55 | pahvir | some of the people in my guild left/quit/etc. after we killed kt 2 times. heh. |
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| 11:46.27 | pahvir | people just cba anymore when exp is near |
| 11:46.35 | pahvir | Im not blaming them for that tho :P |
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| 11:46.45 | Tornhoof | half of my raiding group quit wow during the xmas holidays |
| 11:47.03 | pahvir | I would've wanted to clear the place with the 2.0 talents etc. though |
| 11:47.31 | Herio | gear you get from raiding pre TBC is plenty good well into the upper 60's |
| 11:47.48 | pahvir | yea |
| 11:48.17 | Herio | it bugs me that a lot of people get stupid and think TBC is the end of the world and junk |
| 11:48.26 | Tornhoof | but it's still kinda hurting my heart if you see some green/blue lvl 6x weapon with similar stats to my cthun heal mace ;) |
| 11:48.40 | pahvir | :P |
| 11:48.41 | Herio | mm? |
| 11:48.44 | Herio | linky? |
| 11:49.32 | Herio | i'd like to see a [Mace of the Healy Eagle] |
| 11:50.25 | axxo | crafting ftw really http://thottbot.com/beta?i=10587 |
| 11:50.39 | Tornhoof | plenty, example http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=8783 |
| 11:50.55 | Tekkub | okey... aparently I've been miking screwdrivers fairly weak |
| 11:50.57 | phyber | I'd like to see [Mace, Can of], for stunning in PvP. |
| 11:51.04 | Tekkub | this recipe is 1.5oz vodka, 5oz OJ |
| 11:51.13 | phyber | gives you that drunk poison effect from ZG. |
| 11:51.13 | Herio | yeah, but that's a level 70 crafted epic |
| 11:51.14 | Ominous | [Ammo]: are you here? |
| 11:51.16 | Tekkub | I usually use 3oz in a 20oz drink... |
| 11:51.21 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23355 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua: Cartographer_Stats: panel code works, needs major refacotring though |
| 11:51.31 | Herio | i'd immagine the materials take some considerable doing |
| 11:51.47 | Tornhoof | look at my link |
| 11:51.50 | |Kev| | Herio: depends what raiding you were doing, surely - MC/ZG gear is gone pretty early, and BWL sometime around 64/65 |
| 11:52.11 | |Kev| | Naxx nearly to 70, I've heard, but I've no experience of that |
| 11:52.12 | Herio | and also note the lake of stam, which is retardedly abundant in TBC unfortantaly =/ |
| 11:52.38 | pahvir | feral druids get some nice stuff in exp |
| 11:52.42 | |Kev| | yep |
| 11:52.46 | |Kev| | it's feraltastic |
| 11:52.56 | Herio | considering that T3 drops in hardmode 5mans at 60 (IIRC) it should =P |
| 11:52.57 | |Kev| | first boss, first drop, my druid was upgrading her feral gear :) |
| 11:53.25 | |Kev| | ok, maybe the second boss, but the point still stands :) |
| 11:53.54 | Herio | i'm more concerned about the amount of stam in TBC gear =/ |
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| 11:54.00 | |Kev| | in TBC my druid kills things more easily than my mage :o |
| 11:54.11 | |Kev| | and that's worrying |
| 11:54.20 | |Kev| | well, I think the boost in stam is good |
| 11:54.25 | Herio | it's a shame they didn't scale the existing gear considering their reasoning |
| 11:54.51 | |Kev| | if it means that clothies can't be 1-shotted and pvp becomes a bit more interesting :) |
| 11:55.22 | Tornhoof | i'd say we'll see that when we hit 70 |
| 11:55.28 | Tekkub | you know what'd be kickass fun in PvP... if I ever did PvP |
| 11:55.38 | Tekkub | if engineer bombs had a good throwback on em |
| 11:55.42 | Tekkub | to EVERYONE |
| 11:55.47 | pahvir | :P |
| 11:55.55 | Herio | they want to make pvp encounters last longer, but it seems that not taking the new high stam gear will be pretty gimping for your random 1v1, etc world encounters |
| 11:55.59 | Tornhoof | i'm fairly certain i can 1-shot a 7k hp mage with some 130dps two hand weapon and some nice wf proc ;) |
| 11:56.02 | |Kev| | it's a shame that engineering is the pvp class I think |
| 11:56.24 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23356 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: fixed a missing comma |
| 11:56.28 | Tekkub | engineering sucks |
| 11:56.31 | Tekkub | bah |
| 11:56.40 | Herio | it's not 1shotting if you're WFing |
| 11:56.46 | Tornhoof | it is |
| 11:56.55 | Tornhoof | since it's one weapon swing |
| 11:56.57 | Tekkub | all I got was this malfunctioning teleporter |
| 11:57.06 | Herio | get a parachute |
| 11:57.09 | Herio | ya bum |
| 11:57.12 | Tornhoof | you'll get the nice portable mailbox |
| 11:57.13 | Tornhoof | :D |
| 11:57.18 | Tekkub | bah it's easier to just strip |
| 11:57.23 | Herio | portable mailbox? |
| 11:57.23 | Tornhoof | i like that mailbox :) |
| 11:57.27 | Tekkub | fuck mailboxes |
| 11:57.30 | Herio | like a fax machine? |
| 11:57.33 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 11:57.34 | Tekkub | it's not reusable is it? |
| 11:57.36 | Tornhoof | like a fax machine |
| 11:57.39 | Herio | how does that work? |
| 11:57.41 | Tornhoof | no it's like repbot |
| 11:57.52 | Herio | that sucks |
| 11:57.56 | Tekkub | yea... engineering is too dependant on fused wiring |
| 11:57.58 | Herio | majorly =/ |
| 11:58.07 | Herio | srsly wtf |
| 11:58.17 | Herio | if i wanted fused wiring i think i could do it my self |
| 11:58.28 | Herio | instead of beating up target dummies |
| 11:58.43 | Tekkub | why can't we take an ingot, give it to a tailor (or better yet a jewelcrafter) and have them make it into wire/thread |
| 11:59.08 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23357 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua: Cartographer_Stats: fixed a typo |
| 11:59.14 | Tekkub | fuck, make an item for engineers like the salt shaker |
| 11:59.27 | Tekkub | makes a wire, 50% chance of fairure, 2day cooldown |
| 11:59.39 | Tekkub | problem solved |
| 12:00.17 | pahvir | http://thottbot.com/beta?i=12962 |
| 12:00.19 | pahvir | :O |
| 12:00.25 | Tekkub | everone else gets their "high level" mat on a big cooldown, why is engineer's a fucking drop |
| 12:01.20 | Herio | and why is it trash? |
| 12:01.45 | nevcairiel | ive seen that recipe drop quite often |
| 12:01.50 | nevcairiel | guess everyone will have one :P |
| 12:02.03 | Herio | on friday i'm gonna get the steam tonk schem and get cranking |
| 12:02.09 | Herio | it's gonna be good stuff =) |
| 12:02.36 | Tekkub | oh yea... do you need a specific engineering level to get the mote extractor quest? |
| 12:02.58 | Tekkub | my goal on release is to push to get that extractor fast and abuse the new market :) |
| 12:03.12 | Tekkub | since everyone and their brother will be doing jewelcrafting |
| 12:03.15 | Herio | not sure what you're asking =) |
| 12:03.23 | Herio | damn |
| 12:03.30 | Herio | reminds me i need to work on my enchanting =/ |
| 12:03.41 | Herio | sucks not being able to DE stuff =( |
| 12:03.54 | Tekkub | heh |
| 12:04.14 | Tekkub | it's sad |
| 12:04.22 | Tekkub | my hope for TBC was to raid again |
| 12:04.35 | Tekkub | cause I've not raided in forever cause I hate 40-mans |
| 12:04.46 | Tekkub | and my guild imploded 3 days before xmas |
| 12:04.56 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 12:04.58 | Tekkub | now I have to find a raid guild come L70 |
| 12:05.08 | nevcairiel | lots of guilds did that somehow |
| 12:05.14 | Worf | what do you hate in 40 man raids? |
| 12:05.19 | evl | Hmms, we exploded out guild, grabbed the coolest people and made a new guild |
| 12:05.24 | Tekkub | I don't even know what happeded beyond "loot drama" |
| 12:05.37 | Dhraga | *cough* 5 lines of spam incomming.... |
| 12:05.40 | Tekkub | can't contact my friend that got me in till I have a live acct again |
| 12:05.44 | Worf | and yeah, with patch 2.0 there was lot's of guild dying |
| 12:05.46 | nevcairiel | pastey it :P |
| 12:05.48 | TheKarn[Sleep] | Dhraga, pastey it |
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| 12:06.02 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 12:06.32 | nevcairiel | me and two friends are looking for a good new guild on some other realm right now |
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| 12:07.03 | Tekkub | I could xfer I guess, but it's my only 60 and I don't wanna if I don't gotta |
| 12:07.13 | Tekkub | what I really need is someone to level with |
| 12:07.13 | [Ammo] | I have engineering on my warlock |
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| 12:07.18 | [Ammo] | but it's the 'fun' profession |
| 12:07.20 | Tekkub | I hate hunter so very much |
| 12:07.25 | Herio | what i hate about 40mans is the 15 who drag down the top 25 >=o |
| 12:07.25 | [Ammo] | sucks for anything but teleporting |
| 12:07.39 | Herio | Agreed! |
| 12:07.39 | Worf | Herio: that's a good point |
| 12:07.40 | nevcairiel | Herio: thats where 25mans come in :P |
| 12:07.41 | Tekkub | yup ammo |
| 12:07.48 | Herio | =P |
| 12:07.51 | Dhraga | Heh... fist time I get booted before I do something :P |
| 12:08.04 | Tekkub | don't spam, ass |
| 12:08.08 | Worf | nevcairiel: yeah, only 5 mans drag down then... and you can put them in a group then |
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| 12:08.26 | nevcairiel | if you know who, you can just kick em and get other ones |
| 12:08.37 | nevcairiel | with 15 people dragging down, its hard to replace |
| 12:08.43 | Tekkub | yea that screwdriver recipe is crap |
| 12:08.45 | Herio | the problem is fielding a full raid =/ |
| 12:08.47 | Dhraga | Then I'll only link one then :P Mastering Swedish lesson 1 = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66fULfwb2X4 |
| 12:08.53 | Herio | screwdriver? |
| 12:08.54 | pahvir | If it was that simpe.. |
| 12:09.00 | Tekkub | yes |
| 12:09.06 | Herio | 1 part orange juice, one pat vodka! |
| 12:09.12 | Tekkub | I aparently mix my screwdrivers weak |
| 12:09.18 | Tekkub | but damn I feel this one |
| 12:09.24 | Herio | s/pat/part |
| 12:09.49 | Herio | the only screwdriver i've ever had was made by a bartender >.> |
| 12:10.14 | Tekkub | okey maybe it's the screwdriver |
| 12:10.19 | Tekkub | but damn I like sweedish |
| 12:10.32 | Herio | miidori sour = tasty |
| 12:11.41 | Herio | hrm, if you have a function that returns an unknown number of values, how do you capture them all? |
| 12:11.43 | Dhraga | Tekkub, there are total 1-5 lessons of Mastering Swedish |
| 12:12.22 | TheKarn[Sleep] | Herio i think you can use ... = function() |
| 12:12.30 | TheKarn[Sleep] | and then select(i,...) |
| 12:12.56 | Tekkub | only question is, why thi fuck is this on youtube? |
| 12:13.00 | Tekkub | it's just audio |
| 12:13.35 | Herio | ... is a table? |
| 12:13.43 | Herio | or whatever you call it in LUA =P |
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| 12:14.11 | Dhraga | tekkub, no idea. it was the only site I found it on atm |
| 12:14.28 | Tekkub | I need to use the word bollux more often |
| 12:14.49 | Dhraga | Aye the SlayRaidin host is verry amusing |
| 12:14.59 | Herio | i think it's bollocks, but i'm no expert |
| 12:15.00 | Dhraga | *radio |
| 12:15.17 | Tekkub | like I know how to type brittish |
| 12:15.28 | Herio | british? o.O |
| 12:15.47 | Herio | i'm prolly wrong there >.> |
| 12:16.15 | TheKarn[Sleep] | british |
| 12:16.16 | TheKarn[Sleep] | yeah |
| 12:16.24 | Tekkub | fuck you all |
| 12:16.37 | Industrial | no thx |
| 12:16.45 | Industrial | im good |
| 12:16.45 | Industrial | :p |
| 12:19.05 | Herio | asl? |
| 12:19.13 | Dhraga | Incomming spam.... loads of spam.... line after line with spam... I just want to se Tekkub's reflexes ;) ... oh where was I... yes spam spam spam... :D |
| 12:19.22 | Herio | i'll let you know if you're a man i |
| 12:19.29 | Herio | 'm not willing travel far |
| 12:19.32 | *** kick/#wowace [Dhraga!n=tekkub@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net] by Tekkub (preemptive ^^) |
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| 12:19.47 | *** kick/#wowace [Dhraga!n=tekkub@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net] by Tekkub (P) |
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| 12:20.21 | Dhraga | LOL |
| 12:20.32 | nevcairiel | someone should tell Dhraga that he has a "Kick Me" sign on his back |
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| 12:20.35 | Tekkub | can we have sex at six? |
| 12:20.42 | Dhraga | Tekkub, you where real fast on the seccond one :P |
| 12:20.49 | nevcairiel | yes, please. |
| 12:21.17 | Dhraga | Haha nah, time to work some, have fun with the Mastering Swedish lessons :) |
| 12:21.34 | Industrial | bork bork bork! |
| 12:24.16 | Dhraga | Btw here is a non youtube version of Mastering swedish http://www.slayradio.org/mastering_swedish.php |
| 12:24.25 | Dhraga | afk |
| 12:26.45 | Gngsk | anyone using NanoStats2? |
| 12:28.58 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3901.new#new |
| 12:29.04 | Industrial | ONOZ hes at it again :P |
| 12:29.13 | Industrial | i had to, it was just too stupid |
| 12:30.35 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 12:30.46 | TheKarn[Sleep] | so why is oCB dropping Ace? |
| 12:31.01 | Herio | because haste decided to |
| 12:31.07 | Herio | haste being the author |
| 12:32.04 | andremar | it didnt drop ace did it? it just dropped the hosting provided by ace (svn, fourm etc) |
| 12:32.28 | Herio | he's rewritting his mods to be non-ace |
| 12:32.39 | andremar | ohh? |
| 12:32.47 | Herio | that's what he said |
| 12:32.54 | TheKarn | but wht? |
| 12:33.00 | TheKarn | why fix what aint broke |
| 12:33.04 | Herio | because he doesn't want to use ace |
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| 12:34.05 | Industrial | if you wouldnt tell someone the addon uses ace and he found it a good addon, would he care? |
| 12:34.34 | Herio | ace or non-ace good addons are good addons |
| 12:34.49 | TheKarn | i dont see why some people see ace addons as bad |
| 12:34.49 | nevcairiel | the sad thing is, lots of people wont use any addon if its not ace |
| 12:34.56 | TheKarn | and some people see ace addons as good |
| 12:35.04 | |Kev| | my main problem with non-ace addons is that AceUpdater doesn't pick them up ;) |
| 12:35.05 | Herio | i can't believe how many of those brain-dead acezealots there are out there |
| 12:35.05 | Worf | actually - now with 2.0 i'm propably dropping ace for my stuff to, because the features dropped to approx 1/100 and the options to zero. so no need for ace for me i think :) |
| 12:36.13 | Herio | what do you mean? |
| 12:36.13 | Herio | oh |
| 12:36.13 | SoLoR | i care about if mod use ace or not because of somekind matched uis over all addons ;> |
| 12:36.13 | Herio | your addons were killed by 2.0? =( |
| 12:36.13 | Worf | mostly |
| 12:36.22 | Herio | luckily i'm just bad, so the only addon i write is non-ace and pretty crappy |
| 12:36.34 | Herio | if i was a user i wouldn't put up with it |
| 12:37.30 | Worf | the moment i need some options and a menue, i defenitely will use ace... i really love dewdrop and all that stuff |
| 12:37.51 | Herio | =/ |
| 12:38.03 | Herio | i don't really like the dewdrop configuration |
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| 12:38.43 | oxman | why you don't make an acegui which use the dewdrop config ? |
| 12:38.43 | oxman | ;) |
| 12:38.43 | Worf | do you mean the look&feel for the user or the internal table structure you got to handle? |
| 12:38.46 | Tekkub | dewdrop is nice for simple toggles |
| 12:38.48 | Herio | i'm thinking of taking a dive into ace by writting a duececommander esque menu configuration mod |
| 12:38.55 | Herio | i'll call it DUECEMARSHAL |
| 12:38.57 | Tekkub | beut when it gets multileveled it gets messy |
| 12:39.06 | Herio | IT'LL ME CORNY BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT MUAHAHAHAHA |
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| 12:39.19 | Herio | me, be |
| 12:39.55 | Industrial | dewdop doesnt work for peopl that would rather tinker with a value until its perfect then to tinker with a slider that doesnt work with scaling. |
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| 12:40.07 | evl | yeah that bugs me |
| 12:40.13 | evl | I like my values as whole numbers |
| 12:40.19 | evl | i get all itchy when i get 19.89 |
| 12:40.24 | oxman | me too |
| 12:40.24 | oxman | :) |
| 12:40.26 | evl | I actually have to exit wow, edit the value in the WTF |
| 12:40.27 | evl | and log back in |
| 12:40.28 | evl | :D |
| 12:40.33 | Worf | the only thing i don't like about dewdrop is that it sometimes did just close some menue and i couldn't do my settings |
| 12:40.34 | Herio | i just don't like how if you lose the dropdown you have to recurse back to where you were |
| 12:40.51 | Worf | at least that happend to me with bigwigs frequently in the past |
| 12:40.53 | Herio | yeah, for editboxes you gotta hit the enter key |
| 12:40.58 | Herio | hrm |
| 12:41.01 | Industrial | you can use a step in the aceoptions table |
| 12:41.05 | Industrial | but thats not enough for me |
| 12:41.10 | Industrial | sometimes i want it at 101 |
| 12:41.11 | Industrial | :P |
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| 12:41.38 | Industrial | just cause it looks good with scaling (scaling messes up some textures) |
| 12:41.54 | Industrial | border looks fine at one position but messed a little one pixel further |
| 12:42.16 | |Kev| | mod positioning is annoying me at the moment |
| 12:42.45 | |Kev| | because I sometimes play on my mac, and when I do I typically run in a window (say 1028*768, I don't know what it is), because I'm just chatting |
| 12:42.53 | |Kev| | but sometimes I want to fullscreen for an instance or a raid |
| 12:43.02 | Fisker- | i know chmod |
| 12:43.08 | |Kev| | and then it's 1600*1050, and everything's in the wrong place :( |
| 12:43.16 | TheKarn | kev, in windows you can fullscreen-window |
| 12:43.22 | TheKarn | which just scales the window up |
| 12:43.39 | |Kev| | so it doesn't change the res? |
| 12:43.43 | TheKarn | nope |
| 12:43.45 | |Kev| | or it changes uiScale? |
| 12:44.03 | TheKarn | it renders @ 1024x768 then scales it to the fullscreen res |
| 12:44.15 | |Kev| | that's kind of useless isn't it? |
| 12:44.21 | TheKarn | nope |
| 12:44.27 | |Kev| | I mean, you could just as well run at 1204*768 in a window |
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| 12:44.49 | Adirelle|work | |kev| dunno how it is working on mac |
| 12:45.09 | |Kev| | on mac it's changing the res |
| 12:45.28 | Adirelle|work | but on win32 using "optimized windowed" solves the problem |
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| 12:46.44 | |Kev| | hmm |
| 12:46.54 | |Kev| | I'll have a look at this when I get home, ta |
| 12:47.05 | Herio | well |
| 12:47.10 | |Kev| | I care more than normal because my games machine went BANG last night |
| 12:47.30 | Adirelle|work | it's not exactly "beautiful and finest" but at least mods don't mess all over your screen |
| 12:47.31 | Herio | it's about 5, i better hit the sack before my pop wakes up to go to work >.> |
| 12:47.32 | |Kev| | so my mac is my only option :) |
| 12:47.34 | evl | Adirelle|work: where is this "optimized windowed" option? |
| 12:47.41 | Herio | later yall |
| 12:47.44 | |Kev| | gn |
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| 12:47.48 | Tekkub | old man gives neighbor woman a dildo |
| 12:47.57 | |Kev| | o_O |
| 12:48.30 | Tekkub | brits are so funnah |
| 12:48.33 | Adirelle|work | evl: in the video options pane (on win32 client : check windowed then optimized just below) |
| 12:48.44 | Tekkub | the torchwood we watched tonight had a tad bit of japaneese |
| 12:48.46 | evl | you mean maxmized :) |
| 12:48.47 | Adirelle|work | ~emulate Tekkub |
| 12:48.51 | purl | Do you have any butter? |
| 12:48.59 | Tekkub | and the subtitles had a british accent |
| 12:49.00 | Adirelle|work | evl: that's maximized without border |
| 12:49.05 | Tekkub | "Mum!" |
| 12:49.20 | Adirelle|work | evl: and well, in french they translated it by "optimized" |
| 12:49.29 | evl | well the french are bad |
| 12:49.30 | Ominous | hmm why does grid make oRA load? |
| 12:49.35 | evl | and like... they didn't help the US so they are bad |
| 12:49.38 | Ominous | if u make oRA LOD |
| 12:50.35 | Adirelle|work | evl: I think we shouldn't go into that debate |
| 12:51.11 | evl | Adirelle|work: I'm from Norway and I really don't like the US very much so you'll have to believe it's irony :) |
| 12:52.10 | Industrial | evl: oh phew. good european. /pat evl :P |
| 12:52.35 | evl | I actually had plans to go to New York but I cancelled my ticket and went to Tokyo instead |
| 12:52.40 | Adirelle|work | evl: okay then, but either way we really have to keep away from this kind of talkings... I think it can easily end bad |
| 12:52.41 | evl | Now I feel moraly cleansed! |
| 12:53.06 | Mikma | How do Asian people name their children? |
| 12:53.29 | evl | Mikma: my vietnamese friend has a "real name" and then a nick name |
| 12:53.33 | Mikma | they drop a handful of coins down the stairs and listen to the sounds: zing zon dojong |
| 12:53.34 | Adirelle|work | i mean, not natively talking english can lead to misunderstandings and not feeling irony |
| 12:53.46 | evl | Mikma: her nick name means "small small" so that evil spirits won't get her for being beautiful |
| 12:53.47 | Industrial | Mikma: How Long is a chinese? |
| 12:53.55 | evl | Mikma: oh, you made a funny .( |
| 12:53.55 | Industrial | ;x |
| 12:54.02 | Mikma | Industrial: smaller than my epenis :D |
| 12:54.08 | Industrial | haha |
| 12:54.12 | Mikma | my epenis is huuuuuuuge (say that in trump voice!) |
| 12:54.20 | Mikma | if not, you're fired. |
| 12:54.21 | evl | Mikma: I think you deserve a second chance |
| 12:54.49 | Mikma | evl: ok, well try "ok now i get it haha, funny" ;) |
| 12:55.16 | Ominous | pastamancer: you here atm? |
| 12:56.12 | Ominous | if you have a LOD addon and another has it in optional deps will the LOD addon load? |
| 12:57.40 | nevcairiel | yea |
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| 12:58.55 | Adirelle|work | ckknight, what do you think of http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset?old_path=%2Ftrunk%2FGloryLib%2FGlory-2.0%2FGlory-2.0.lua&old=head&new_path=%2Fbranches%2FGloryLib%2Ffrench-loc%2FGloryLib%2FGlory-2.0%2FGlory-2.0.lua&new=23272 ? |
| 12:58.59 | Ominous | yay found my problem |
| 12:59.06 | Adirelle|work | (wow, that url's quite long :s) |
| 12:59.18 | Adirelle|work | (but hell, Trac kicks ass) |
| 13:00.04 | Adirelle|work | btw, does LUA handle bytes or UTF-8 chars ? |
| 13:00.33 | krka | bytes |
| 13:00.34 | Gagorian | Adirelle|work: The localization stuff worked apparently :) |
| 13:00.40 | Adirelle|work | nice |
| 13:00.53 | krka | assuming you meant the string functions of lua |
| 13:01.14 | Tekkub | okey lesson 5 kicks ass |
| 13:01.24 | Adirelle|work | krka: I suppose that means that string.find("[\194\195]") would match either \194 or \195 separately |
| 13:01.39 | krka | yes |
| 13:01.40 | evl | Mikma: i didn't get that :( |
| 13:01.44 | Adirelle|work | crap :s |
| 13:01.54 | Mikma | evl: that's ok |
| 13:02.04 | nevcairiel | there is a UTF8 library from pastamancer on the forums, check that |
| 13:02.09 | evl | Mikma: you only mock me because i'm a muslim |
| 13:02.30 | nevcairiel | krka: FAIAP is breaking TinyPad :( |
| 13:02.34 | Adirelle|work | erf... not sure introducing it into GloryLib would be a good idea, but I'll give a look |
| 13:02.38 | krka | why would you need to treat utf8 in some special way? |
| 13:02.46 | krka | nevcairiel: in what way? |
| 13:03.05 | nevcairiel | when i try to paste some code into it, it eats half the code and behaves weirdly |
| 13:03.27 | krka | try adding a couple of newlines to the end of the code |
| 13:03.31 | nevcairiel | also happens when i type code, but not all the time. |
| 13:03.35 | nevcairiel | hm ok, sec |
| 13:03.35 | krka | i know it acts weird on large chunks of text |
| 13:03.46 | krka | that apparently might fix stuff |
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| 13:04.30 | Adirelle|work | krka : because something like \194\168 is an "é" which is only one char in french... and there is also the single quote, which is sometimes "translated" into a 3-byte UTF8 character |
| 13:04.51 | Adirelle|work | now thinks about trying to macth [ae'] (with the quote being the 3-bytes char) |
| 13:05.05 | oxman | ? :) |
| 13:06.27 | Adirelle|work | take a look at http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Localize_an_AddOn#The_single_quote_case |
| 13:07.01 | Adirelle|work | btw, does IRC handle UTF8 well ? :D |
| 13:07.13 | krka | irc is oblivious to it |
| 13:07.15 | Fisker- | fail? |
| 13:07.16 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 13:07.26 | krka | some irc clients can detect it properly |
| 13:07.44 | Fisker- | mirc supports UTF-8 now |
| 13:07.48 | krka | irssi, mirc and xchat all handle utf-8, afaik |
| 13:07.56 | Adirelle|work | krka, so I guess é is quite ugly (actually it corresponds to the é entity) |
| 13:08.18 | krka | quite ugly? |
| 13:08.46 | Adirelle|work | not the char I meant to type, unless *your* client and display font handles utf8 |
| 13:08.56 | Adirelle|work | s/les/le/ |
| 13:08.56 | krka | it does |
| 13:09.15 | Adirelle|work | lol, didn't changed to good one :) |
| 13:09.43 | nevcairiel | why do the french even use a special single quote |
| 13:09.43 | nevcairiel | and not the default ' |
| 13:09.43 | Adirelle|work | well.... |
| 13:09.50 | krka | because they're french |
| 13:09.53 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:09.54 | Adirelle|work | for all french there is only one ' |
| 13:10.07 | Adirelle|work | but for a reason a don't understand, someone added a second char in the UTF8 encoding... |
| 13:10.15 | Adirelle|work | s/a don't/I don't/ |
| 13:10.22 | Industrial | ` |
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| 13:10.38 | nevcairiel | ' is in ANSI, stupid frenchies :D |
| 13:10.48 | Industrial | i dunno but thats on every standard US layout keyboard |
| 13:11.09 | nevcairiel | i have ´`' |
| 13:11.10 | Adirelle|work | I would say "Blizzard translators are stupids" |
| 13:11.12 | nevcairiel | those three |
| 13:11.24 | nevcairiel | dunno if anyone of those is that french sign |
| 13:11.29 | Adirelle|work | i don't even know how to type this alternate quote with my french keyboard ! |
| 13:11.43 | Adirelle|work | I got only the plain ansi one |
| 13:11.50 | Industrial | azerty :p |
| 13:12.00 | |Kev| | there are two plain ascii ones :p |
| 13:12.04 | |Kev| | ` and ' |
| 13:12.07 | jaete | the way i understood it, everyone in the world uses only one ', except people from the US for some unfathomable reason use two different 's |
| 13:12.12 | Adirelle|work | but... some text editors (like some M$ W**d) automatically replaces then |
| 13:12.20 | Adirelle|work | s/then/them/ |
| 13:12.21 | jaete | and in unicode there's at least one more ' on top of that:p |
| 13:12.21 | |Kev| | jaete: no, the English language uses two |
| 13:12.24 | |Kev| | it's not just Americans |
| 13:12.52 | jaete | kev, ok, replace "people from US" with "english speakers" |
| 13:13.03 | |Kev| | in English, you use one quote for opening and another for closing |
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| 13:13.19 | |Kev| | so really you'd write `something like this' |
| 13:13.28 | ravagernl | people is there a mirror up for wowace? it seems to be down |
| 13:13.30 | nevcairiel | who does that anyway |
| 13:13.33 | jaete | actually, wasn't there two different double quotes as well in english? |
| 13:13.33 | |Kev| | (which is what you'd do in LaTeX also) |
| 13:13.35 | jaete | how silly :] |
| 13:13.38 | |Kev| | yes |
| 13:13.41 | nevcairiel | only place i use ` is in unix scripting :P |
| 13:13.55 | jaete | $() > ` |
| 13:13.56 | Adirelle|work | nevcariel : that's the whole point of it |
| 13:14.21 | Adirelle|work | translators don't care about diffrence between `and ', the first looks smarter... |
| 13:14.37 | ravagernl | theres basicly two kind of quotes one to quote, and one to make strings |
| 13:15.11 | ravagernl | so is there a mirror up? |
| 13:15.33 | nevcairiel | i dont think so |
| 13:16.16 | ravagernl | :( I want to play my shaman again, need to have Yata |
| 13:17.26 | Adirelle|work | and well the fact is that's the UI gives me string with crappinp quote in it and I have to deals wtih |
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| 13:20.10 | Tornhoof | hmm |
| 13:20.18 | Tornhoof | cia isn't announcing my svn commit |
| 13:20.32 | nevcairiel | so? |
| 13:21.57 | [dRaCo] | hey tornhoof: seems like the new totemset code works great |
| 13:22.05 | [dRaCo] | no problems/bugs/errors so far |
| 13:22.07 | Fisker- | Are the eu forums slow for you others? |
| 13:22.16 | Tornhoof | they always are fisker |
| 13:22.17 | evl | yeah and the login/realm servers too |
| 13:22.27 | Tornhoof | fine draco |
| 13:22.30 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 13:22.48 | evl | Anyone know what's gonna happen when they put all the new people with the expansion into an area 1/2 the size of the current world? :) |
| 13:22.48 | Tornhoof | draco now go test that show/hide code too :) |
| 13:23.07 | Fisker- | well the serves are going to suck and crash |
| 13:23.18 | [dRaCo] | as soon as I get out of this stupid AV, I will |
| 13:23.21 | |Kev| | well, they won't |
| 13:23.25 | evl | Is it even remotely imaginable that it will be stable? |
| 13:23.29 | ravagernl | tornhoof you are the author of yata arent you |
| 13:23.34 | Tornhoof | yes |
| 13:23.34 | Fisker- | s/serves/servers/ |
| 13:23.35 | |Kev| | because the capping code will come into play and no-one will be able to log in |
| 13:23.41 | Tornhoof | no it won't be stable, never |
| 13:23.43 | nevcairiel | evl: yes it is |
| 13:23.51 | ravagernl | cool, can I get a copy from somewhere, SVN servers are down >< |
| 13:23.54 | evl | nevcairiel: they have twice the servers? |
| 13:24.14 | phyber | http://www.wowace.com/files/Yata/ |
| 13:24.17 | Tornhoof | i can access the http version just fine ;) |
| 13:24.20 | phyber | holy shit, right there in the topic! |
| 13:24.21 | nevcairiel | only thing, you have to get out of the first zone pretty fast |
| 13:24.30 | Tornhoof | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Yata/ works fine here ;) |
| 13:24.35 | ravagernl | weird, it was offline just a second ago |
| 13:25.22 | ravagernl | tornhoof, do I need to install gotwood too or does yata have its own totem timers? |
| 13:25.32 | Tornhoof | no need for gotwood atm |
| 13:25.57 | ravagernl | cool, that was what I was thinking :) |
| 13:26.27 | Adirelle|work | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 13:27.45 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 2h 22m 19s ago, saying: 'but i'm always terrible at getting to sleep on time'. |
| 13:27.45 | Adirelle|work | purl, are you here ? |
| 13:27.57 | purl | Yes, I'm right here, adirelle|work. |
| 13:27.57 | Adirelle|work | ~emulate purl |
| 13:28.02 | purl | ACTION tries to look like herself. |
| 13:28.22 | Adirelle|work | purl was busy ... |
| 13:28.44 | Adirelle|work | what do bots do when we aren't requiring their services ? |
| 13:30.13 | Tornhoof | draco, the difference to the old totemset code is basically, the old just saved the swaps the user did, the new code calculates the difference between original layout and new layout and thus finds the optimum permutations |
| 13:31.04 | nevcairiel | Prat hides whenever someone joines/leaves a custom channel, which addon do i have to disable to make it show again? |
| 13:31.27 | nevcairiel | nvm found it |
| 13:31.52 | [dRaCo] | sounds good |
| 13:32.06 | [dRaCo] | but why do lots of swaps mess it up anyway? |
| 13:34.19 | Ominous | hmm how come bugsack takes so long to load? |
| 13:36.39 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 13:36.44 | nevcairiel | why does Quixote need AceComm? |
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| 13:37.44 | nevcairiel | Kemayo: ping |
| 13:38.34 | [Wobin] | Isn't that the duet questing addon? |
| 13:38.47 | nevcairiel | its a library |
| 13:38.47 | [Wobin] | or is that the quest library? |
| 13:39.03 | nevcairiel | the quest library QuestFu uses |
| 13:39.10 | nevcairiel | and i try to get rid of AceComm |
| 13:39.26 | ravagernl | tornhoof, any totemsets I can download as a savedvariables lua? |
| 13:39.37 | ravagernl | Im loving the addon :D |
| 13:39.42 | Tornhoof | no not really |
| 13:39.51 | nevcairiel | hm oh well |
| 13:39.52 | Tornhoof | you'll need to swap them yourself ;) |
| 13:39.53 | [Wobin] | hehe like a svaegame |
| 13:40.01 | ravagernl | yeah, savegame :P |
| 13:40.02 | nevcairiel | guess i will create my own Quest addon |
| 13:40.06 | nevcairiel | like EQL3 |
| 13:41.23 | ravagernl | monkeyquest ace2 style :P |
| 13:41.33 | [dRaCo] | stupid zip script, update already ^^ |
| 13:41.46 | nevcairiel | i just want a big questlog, with a even bigger quest text thing |
| 13:41.48 | nevcairiel | like EQL3 |
| 13:41.49 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:42.19 | ravagernl | hey this is a neat macro I found: /script for i=1, 120 do PickupAction(i) PickupSpell(999,"spell") end |
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| 13:43.01 | nevcairiel | good that i know what it does. |
| 13:43.08 | nevcairiel | but someone should kick him for that imho |
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| 13:44.47 | Fisker- | what does it do nevcairiel ? |
| 13:44.52 | Fisker- | clear your actionbars? |
| 13:45.01 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 13:45.28 | odt | thanks, i could use it :) |
| 13:45.34 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:46.00 | odt | i have so many chars i don't play i find it often easier to totally rearrange their action buttons, than to start playing how they were set up |
| 13:46.19 | odt | well, not so many, 4 |
| 13:46.33 | odt | but i usually just play 1 for months, and forget everything bout the others |
| 13:46.38 | [dRaCo] | hey tornhoof, what exactly did u want me to test? |
| 13:46.52 | [dRaCo] | dl'd the latest version from the svn, but can't see any changes |
| 13:49.07 | sbu | WTF, cartographer_* %-) |
| 13:49.15 | sbu | morning btw |
| 13:50.00 | Tornhoof | probably some svn problems again draco |
| 13:50.50 | Tornhoof | the 23358 build from files should do the trick |
| 13:51.34 | [dRaCo] | Revision 23310: /trunk/Yata |
| 13:51.35 | [dRaCo] | :/ |
| 13:51.42 | Srosh | ye, at least one of the mirrors seems to not picking up the latest revisions again |
| 13:51.46 | Tornhoof | http://www.wowace.com/files/Yata/Yata-r23358.zip |
| 13:51.51 | Tornhoof | try that ;) |
| 13:52.21 | [dRaCo] | works... why didn't wau find it? o0 |
| 13:52.50 | [dRaCo] | weird weird world |
| 13:52.54 | Tornhoof | ;) |
| 13:54.45 | [dRaCo] | ok, now there's a debugging option |
| 13:54.55 | [dRaCo] | looks like it really is a new version |
| 13:55.46 | Tornhoof | as soon as you see some red/green button in the add set stuff |
| 13:55.48 | Tornhoof | you're right |
| 13:55.54 | Ordog | wau did find that rev for me |
| 13:56.32 | [dRaCo] | he, cool |
| 13:56.40 | [dRaCo] | red and green buttons |
| 13:56.46 | Ordog | have you thought about doing the totemset changing process like CoE does? |
| 13:56.55 | [dRaCo] | cool idea |
| 13:57.09 | Tornhoof | coe is fugly with their totemset code |
| 13:57.26 | Tornhoof | looks nice, but awful below |
| 13:57.36 | Ordog | that drag n drop is just so native -.- |
| 13:57.41 | [dRaCo] | totembar.lua:401 |
| 13:57.57 | [dRaCo] | attempt to compare a number with nil |
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| 13:58.20 | Tornhoof | wrong version |
| 13:58.31 | [dRaCo] | the one you linked |
| 13:58.35 | Tornhoof | wait |
| 13:58.42 | Tornhoof | did you drag the totem from the bar to the button |
| 13:58.46 | Tornhoof | or vice versa? |
| 13:59.16 | [dRaCo] | the button on the totem, iirc |
| 13:59.24 | ravagernl | tornhoof, I have an idea for yata |
| 13:59.27 | Tornhoof | try the other way round |
| 13:59.40 | ravagernl | how about warnings for lightning shield and weapo buffs too :) |
| 13:59.44 | Tornhoof | totem on the button, there is no check in yet to block button on tottems |
| 13:59.46 | Tornhoof | no |
| 13:59.49 | Tornhoof | that's not part of it |
| 13:59.55 | [dRaCo] | ok |
| 14:00.01 | Tornhoof | might get into some plugin after the merge with gotwood though |
| 14:01.30 | [dRaCo] | oh... one little thing: the timer bars don't get resetted when entering a bg |
| 14:01.40 | Tornhoof | ya i know |
| 14:01.50 | Tornhoof | basically because your totems are still outside ;) |
| 14:02.04 | [dRaCo] | they really are? |
| 14:02.07 | Tornhoof | yes |
| 14:02.20 | TheKarn | omg dont leave your totems outside .. they'll get soaked through in the rain |
| 14:02.23 | Tornhoof | but technically i'd need to hook if you leave the bg |
| 14:02.29 | TheKarn | poor things |
| 14:02.35 | Tornhoof | but that's overkill currently |
| 14:02.50 | Tornhoof | if i start with that i'd need to hook shitloads of other stuff, like in/out raids etc. |
| 14:03.12 | TheKarn | Tornhoof, why bother? use your own events |
| 14:03.21 | TheKarn | if its just for battlegrounds |
| 14:03.31 | TheKarn | i'm sure theres a boolean to check if you're in a battleground |
| 14:03.40 | TheKarn | when the totems are placed, if the boolean changes, stop the timers |
| 14:04.05 | Tornhoof | hmm lemme see |
| 14:04.50 | TheKarn | so when you place the totem, store the current boolean, and on every update check the value is still the same, if it isnt then stop it |
| 14:04.52 | TheKarn | ;) |
| 14:04.54 | Fisker- | Who's kodewulf? |
| 14:05.07 | Adirelle|work | btw, is there an addon to autopromote guild officers when you are guild leader ? |
| 14:05.16 | TheKarn | raidleader? |
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| 14:05.23 | Adirelle|work | s/guild leader/raid leader/ |
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| 14:05.40 | TheKarn | adirelle not that i know of but it wouldnt be hard |
| 14:05.51 | Fisker- | Ora can do it, but not just by "auto-promote guild officers" |
| 14:06.07 | Fisker- | Would probably cause some trouble with ranks anyways |
| 14:06.23 | kagaro | morning |
| 14:06.37 | Adirelle|work | The idea would be to use "default" ranks (like 1 or 2 I think) and let people customize it |
| 14:06.45 | [dRaCo] | the hiding stuff works, tornhoof... finally I can get rid of that stupid sentry totem ;) |
| 14:07.22 | Adirelle|work | I hesitate between making an oRA module or an standalone addon |
| 14:07.32 | Tornhoof | btw it only hides in sets |
| 14:07.40 | Tornhoof | if you load the default layout |
| 14:07.44 | Tornhoof | all totems will be there |
| 14:07.54 | Tornhoof | more or less fallback ;) |
| 14:07.54 | oxman | oRA module Adirelle|work, bc oRA FTW |
| 14:07.55 | oxman | :p |
| 14:08.04 | Adirelle|work | :p |
| 14:08.08 | [dRaCo] | the totem will be hidden in every set? |
| 14:08.16 | Adirelle|work | guess I'll have to check how modules works |
| 14:08.23 | Tornhoof | if you use the last set as reference yes |
| 14:08.27 | Tornhoof | otherwise now |
| 14:08.27 | Tornhoof | no |
| 14:08.51 | Adirelle|work | oxman: are you using baggins ? |
| 14:09.15 | oxman | what is that ? |
| 14:09.53 | Adirelle|work | basically it is ace'd Advanced Bag Plus |
| 14:10.09 | Adirelle|work | display your bag content sorted into categories |
| 14:10.23 | oxman | I use no addon for bag |
| 14:10.31 | oxman | I've change my shortcut, so with B I open all my bags |
| 14:10.35 | Adirelle|work | I finished translating in french it this morning and i would like to know if someone could test it |
| 14:10.41 | oxman | I don't need an addon to manage my bags :) |
| 14:10.50 | Tornhoof | i use onebag for that |
| 14:10.52 | oxman | use it yourself ;p |
| 14:11.02 | Adirelle|work | don't have access to WoW here |
| 14:11.05 | Adirelle|work | :) |
| 14:11.27 | oxman | Patience est mère de vertue. |
| 14:11.27 | oxman | ;p |
| 14:11.29 | Adirelle|work | and well, it doesn't sort the bag content, just show it in a smart way |
| 14:11.38 | Adirelle|work | grmpf |
| 14:13.41 | oxman | :) |
| 14:13.46 | ravagernl | onebag + mrplow ftw |
| 14:13.55 | oxman | no one ftw; |
| 14:14.08 | Adirelle|work | tried mrplow, don't really like it... |
| 14:14.20 | Tornhoof | bags are just too big without any scaling addon here |
| 14:14.47 | oxman | there are not big :| |
| 14:14.55 | oxman | (with ui scale 0.75 on a 17") |
| 14:15.04 | Adirelle|work | i don't want to defragment or sort my bags, just want to group items by type / use and so on |
| 14:15.09 | Adirelle|work | just what baggins do |
| 14:15.12 | Adirelle|work | s/do/does/ |
| 14:15.42 | neenee | I use 0.7 on a 19" in 1280x1024 with Baggins |
| 14:15.56 | Tornhoof | actually i don't have any ui scaling enabled |
| 14:16.02 | Tornhoof | i use default and scale per addon |
| 14:16.10 | evl | I use Possessions now (not Ace) and I'm very happy with it |
| 14:16.11 | neenee | Same here |
| 14:16.18 | Tornhoof | ui scaling just never worked right with widescreen |
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| 14:16.38 | ravagernl | pastamancer/maia, can I hide grid when I am not in a raid/battleground? |
| 14:16.50 | ravagernl | tornhoof, it sure doesn't |
| 14:16.59 | Adirelle|work | oRA2 modules seems prettry strait to write |
| 14:17.37 | oxman | ravagernl its a standard option |
| 14:17.39 | oxman | "show always |
| 14:17.41 | oxman | "show in party" |
| 14:17.43 | oxman | "show in raid" |
| 14:18.18 | ravagernl | lol, I guess dewdrop menus make me want to look in submenus :P |
| 14:18.30 | [Ammo] | adirelle: you could extend the leader Invite module |
| 14:18.33 | [Ammo] | which does the promoting |
| 14:19.29 | phyber | do the Emerald Dragons get 2 spawns per week? |
| 14:19.52 | CIA-17 | ow |
| 14:20.20 | Adirelle|work | [Ammo]: you mean hooking into it ? |
| 14:20.27 | oxman | He means edit it |
| 14:20.27 | oxman | :) |
| 14:21.27 | evl | phyber: Once a week? |
| 14:21.42 | Adirelle|work | just one question then : who knows what are the bare ranks at guild creation ? |
| 14:21.52 | oxman | ouch |
| 14:21.54 | oxman | et en francais ? |
| 14:21.55 | oxman | xD |
| 14:22.01 | Adirelle|work | I think something like 1=guildmaster, 2=officer, 3=members |
| 14:22.10 | oxman | oh ok ^^ |
| 14:22.21 | Adirelle|work | quels sont les grades de base à la création d'une guilde ? |
| 14:22.22 | evl | there's a veteran rank too afaik |
| 14:22.24 | Tornhoof | bbl |
| 14:22.26 | oxman | I dunno ;p |
| 14:22.32 | oxman | bare/base |
| 14:22.33 | oxman | xD |
| 14:22.37 | oxman | bare/standard ;) |
| 14:23.24 | Gagorian | Adirelle|work je ne sais pas :( |
| 14:23.25 | Adirelle|work | purl help babelfish |
| 14:23.45 | Adirelle|work | purl babelfish en fr bare |
| 14:24.06 | Adirelle|work | ^^ |
| 14:24.23 | oxman | xD |
| 14:24.35 | TheKarn | purl help translate |
| 14:24.48 | Adirelle|work | purl help |
| 14:24.53 | oxman | lrup |
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| 14:37.39 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Everyone should get !BugGrabber and BugSack | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips | It's time we moved away from "Get everyone using Ace" to "Give Ace to everyone" |
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| 14:38.07 | silv | I had a quick question about UnitWatch (I realize Tem isnt around zomg) |
| 14:38.10 | sbu | wtb atiesh + ashbringer :p |
| 14:38.14 | silv | or perhaps its not a UnitWatch question at all |
| 14:38.16 | sbu | should be easy then :p |
| 14:38.26 | silv | but for a ToT mod i'm helping a friend with |
| 14:38.36 | silv | is there any way to avoid using OnUpdate? |
| 14:38.56 | silv | Unit Aura not firing for ToTT etc |
| 14:39.36 | silv | er ToT* not ToTT |
| 14:40.28 | Fisker- | bah |
| 14:40.36 | Fisker- | someone should make a search box for guild members :o |
| 14:41.32 | Gngsk | search box? |
| 14:42.02 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:42.13 | Gngsk | like, you type a name in and it highlites it? |
| 14:42.18 | Fisker- | Our guild has public notes after profession and mains/alts |
| 14:42.33 | Fisker- | so like you could write "Enchanting" and it would search notes for "Enchanting" and sort by that |
| 14:42.34 | Fisker- | :o |
| 14:45.06 | bindi | is it just me but ag_uf gives me an error for quite some versions now |
| 14:45.13 | Fisker- | what? |
| 14:45.16 | bindi | sec |
| 14:46.01 | bindi | Interface\Addons\ag_unitframes\ag_unitframes.lua:271:attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 14:46.04 | bindi | with rev 23312 |
| 14:46.13 | bindi | only when i'm in raid |
| 14:48.13 | Fisker- | oh don't have a raid on me :P |
| 14:48.23 | bindi | try AV :p |
| 14:48.33 | groll | question, is there any bar addon that if you only want to use 3 buttons use less memory due to only using 3 buttons instead of loading like 5 bars totally? erm was that understandable? :P |
| 14:49.16 | pahvir | you only use 3 buttons ?:p |
| 14:49.39 | groll | well i intend to use my spells bound to keys |
| 14:49.45 | groll | so i wont need many buttons |
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| 14:50.37 | groll | but if there is no difference in memusage depending on how many buttons are shown or such there is no need to go look for an addon :P |
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| 14:52.38 | silv | does UNIT_AURA still not trigger on ToT? only way to update debuffs is with an OnUpdate? |
| 14:52.44 | silv | or is there a better way? |
| 14:53.38 | nevcairiel | UNIT_AURA updates on all known units, like raid1-40 and party1-5 and player, if your ToT is one of those, it could update, but if its a mob, i guess it will need an onupdate |
| 14:56.13 | Adirelle|work | ace options range bounds cannot be dynamic ? |
| 14:56.16 | sbu | deltron: hm but there are 37 ppl in raid? |
| 14:58.03 | Adirelle|work | hey, welcome back purl :) |
| 15:02.45 | kagaro | ive got a quick syntax sugar question. is ther ea short cut fr this ? if not table[key] then table[key] = 0 end table[key] = table[key] + 1 |
| 15:03.09 | sbu | ah ok, all naked |
| 15:03.16 | sbu | wtf, gonna respecc to shadow ;p |
| 15:03.58 | nevcairiel | table[key] = table[key] and (table[key] + 1) or 1 |
| 15:04.10 | krka | table[key] = (table[key] or 0) + 1 |
| 15:04.18 | nevcairiel | or that |
| 15:04.19 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:04.21 | krka | damn, nevcairiel was faster |
| 15:04.29 | nevcairiel | yours looks shorter tho |
| 15:04.56 | krka | yeah, looks, but maybe it isn't! |
| 15:05.09 | kagaro | thanks |
| 15:08.44 | Gngsk | anyone feel like zipping up neronix folder in branches/NanoStats2? |
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| 15:19.45 | silv | is there any way to get the unitID of a raid member by name? |
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| 15:21.38 | nevcairiel | no API call afaik |
| 15:21.47 | nevcairiel | iterate them and compare, or use RosterLib |
| 15:21.54 | silv | thanks Nev |
| 15:22.45 | krka | or just maintain a lookup table |
| 15:22.56 | krka | might be overkill though, depends on how often you use it |
| 15:23.32 | nevcairiel | raid ids do change tho |
| 15:23.36 | TheKarn | why is general hammond still in command of SGC in SGA ... |
| 15:23.37 | TheKarn | ? |
| 15:24.21 | Thrae | Too many acronyms for me |
| 15:24.55 | sbu | TheKarn: uhm - he is? |
| 15:25.02 | sbu | which episode? |
| 15:25.23 | TheKarn | 108 |
| 15:25.40 | sbu | eww wait |
| 15:25.44 | nevcairiel | i think that changes in season 2 |
| 15:26.03 | nevcairiel | season 1 of SGA was on the timeline when he still was there in SG1 |
| 15:26.09 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 15:26.11 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 15:26.13 | krka | nevcairiel: yes, you reset on raid changes |
| 15:26.26 | Thrae | stargate, ah |
| 15:26.33 | TheKarn | really? i swear O'Neill was in command of SG:1 when SGA started |
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| 15:26.54 | sbu | nevcairiel: hmm no |
| 15:27.26 | sbu | SG1 9x01 is same time as SGA 1x01 |
| 15:27.35 | sbu | and 9x01 introduces mitchell... |
| 15:27.35 | sbu | mh |
| 15:28.31 | sbu | oh nevermind |
| 15:28.32 | sbu | 8x01 |
| 15:28.41 | sbu | wrong year :) |
| 15:29.23 | TheKarn | lol |
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| 15:30.06 | TheKarn | ahh ... thats why |
| 15:30.09 | TheKarn | its all a mockup |
| 15:30.10 | TheKarn | nm |
| 15:31.04 | sbu | and season 8 is o'neill stuff ;o |
| 15:31.12 | TheKarn | yup |
| 15:31.30 | sbu | (two l (!)) |
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| 15:37.46 | dafire | morning |
| 15:38.52 | deltron | yo |
| 15:42.48 | Antiarc | Morning. |
| 15:42.55 | TheKarn | afternoon |
| 15:43.04 | TheKarn | slackers ... its 3:40pm .. |
| 15:43.52 | nevcairiel | its 4:40pm |
| 15:44.04 | TheKarn | damn continentals |
| 15:44.12 | Antiarc | It's 8:40 AM after a 5-day weekend due to being deathly sick for the past four days >_< |
| 15:44.27 | TheKarn | but you're still alive antiarc |
| 15:44.32 | dotted | i think AM and PM should be banned so confusing :( |
| 15:44.48 | TheKarn | i think we should all live the same timezone |
| 15:44.51 | Antiarc | It's zero-eight hundred forty. |
| 15:45.04 | TheKarn | 0840 |
| 15:45.21 | TheKarn | oh-eight-forty |
| 15:45.22 | Thrae | I use military timefrequently since my job requires it |
| 15:46.14 | Industrial | ooo exciting |
| 15:46.17 | Industrial | >_> |
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| 15:46.40 | dotted | TheKarn well some have made a page about changing it to the degree earth is rotated, so that would basicly make it 1 big timezone |
| 15:46.45 | dotted | cant remember where |
| 15:48.17 | dafire | but it's 1648 now :P |
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| 15:48.50 | dotted | dafire qft |
| 15:48.56 | nevcairiel | time for work -.- |
| 15:49.05 | dotted | work? whats that :/ |
| 15:49.22 | dafire | work will start in two weeks ... .) all day leveling :) |
| 15:49.33 | dotted | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh work |
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| 16:11.27 | pahvir | Is it possible for mod to open gm ticket frame and fill the question in automatically ? |
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| 16:12.50 | axxo | yes |
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| 16:14.43 | Saroz | pastamancer, is healcomm in SVN? |
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| 16:26.47 | beerke | is wobin in here ? |
| 16:27.19 | Fisker- | since when has ag_uf gotten this red blink when losing damage? |
| 16:27.35 | Gngsk | when you installed aUF_barfader? |
| 16:28.47 | TheKarn | purl, you came back! |
| 16:30.35 | pastamancer | Saroz: just my svn |
| 16:30.37 | Fisker- | Barfader never blinked red here for me |
| 16:30.45 | Fisker- | until yesterday |
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| 16:38.02 | deltron | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/01/01/addon-spotlight-grid/ <-- heh |
| 16:38.32 | Adirelle|afk | TheKarn: it did a couple of hours ago |
| 16:39.05 | Adirelle|afk | question about aceoptiontable : is there a way to embed a dynamic (i.e. func) subgroup into a table group ? |
| 16:39.27 | Adirelle|afk | something like { type='group'; args=func; ... } |
| 16:40.05 | Tornhoof | dynamic? |
| 16:40.13 | Tornhoof | you can add the groups per function |
| 16:40.14 | haste | just have a function that changes the content of args |
| 16:40.19 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 16:40.58 | Tornhoof | but not like args=func, but instead like filltable(self.options.foo.bar.args) or something |
| 16:42.05 | Industrial | haste: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3901.0' |
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| 16:42.16 | haste | Industrial: I can't access wowace.com :) |
| 16:42.21 | haste | neither do I care for that matter :D |
| 16:42.49 | Fisker- | hows atropine? :o |
| 16:43.08 | haste | just some minor stuff left |
| 16:44.23 | Adirelle|afk | Tornhoof: I guess I should call this update func at appropriate time... |
| 16:44.32 | Adirelle|afk | like onInitialize or onEnable |
| 16:45.02 | Tornhoof | not necessarily |
| 16:45.13 | Tornhoof | i'm not sure about the slash command option table |
| 16:45.23 | Tornhoof | but those dewdrop menus can be updated later too |
| 16:45.44 | Industrial | haste: http://xs511.xs.to/xs511/07014/untitledasdfasdfsadf.PNG |
| 16:45.51 | Industrial | wryyyyyyyy |
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| 16:46.18 | Srosh | Tekkub, anything you can do about the unsync'ed svn mirrors? |
| 16:46.35 | haste | haha |
| 16:46.55 | Adirelle|afk | Tornhoff : in fact, I hesitate between showing a liste of existing guild ranks and allowed the user to enter one |
| 16:47.05 | Adirelle|afk | s/hoff/hoof/ |
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| 16:47.26 | TheKarn | purl, welcome back |
| 16:47.28 | purl | Howdy, back! |
| 16:47.40 | deltron | hehehe |
| 16:47.42 | Industrial | lol |
| 16:47.46 | Adirelle|afk | Tornhoof: but the menu will be included in oRA2.oRALInvite ones |
| 16:47.57 | Elkano | any reason why some of grids externals aren't on the wowace svn? |
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| 16:48.59 | Tornhoof | i have no idea adirelle, technically it should work, just try it maybe ;) |
| 16:49.58 | dafire | w00t |
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| 16:50.08 | dafire | s/0/o/ |
| 16:50.13 | dafire | hmm |
| 16:50.21 | TheKarn | w00t |
| 16:50.24 | TheKarn | s/0/o/g |
| 16:52.28 | Adirelle|afk | w00t |
| 16:52.32 | Adirelle|afk | s/0/o/g |
| 16:52.39 | Adirelle|afk | hehe |
| 16:52.52 | Adirelle|afk | doh, didn't see TheKarn |
| 16:52.56 | Adirelle|afk | pwned myself :s |
| 16:53.07 | TheKarn | lol |
| 16:53.15 | Industrial | anyone know if Kodewulf is ever on IRC? |
| 16:53.25 | TheKarn | ~seen Kodewulf |
| 16:53.49 | purl | kodewulf <n=kodewulf@220-253-0-207.VIC.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 4d 3h 23m 23s ago, saying: 'Happy new year from Melbourne... :)'. |
| 16:53.49 | Industrial | right |
| 16:53.49 | Industrial | :p |
| 16:53.49 | Industrial | he made 2 cartographer modules that add notes on quest npcs and vendors |
| 16:53.55 | Industrial | but the noted dont include twhat they sell |
| 16:54.25 | naenae | I'm using grid for the first time, in AV, I really like the range fading |
| 16:54.26 | TheKarn | and if they can repair? :) |
| 16:54.37 | Industrial | just their name |
| 16:54.38 | Industrial | ... |
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| 16:59.33 | Fisker- | rofl |
| 16:59.35 | Fisker- | fucking idiot |
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| 16:59.45 | Industrial | Fisker-: ? |
| 16:59.50 | Fisker- | in WoW |
| 17:00.00 | Industrial | right. absolutely. |
| 17:00.16 | Fisker- | [3. LocalDefense]: <Scout Praxxhunter>: OMFG I GOT TO FUCK MY DAUGHTER |
| 17:00.19 | Fisker- | fucking win |
| 17:01.02 | TheKarn | lol |
| 17:02.28 | Fisker- | do i need to reload after disabling the channelnames module in prat? |
| 17:04.24 | Elkano | most likely yes |
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| 17:15.23 | Hock | anyone here on scilla? |
| 17:15.32 | Hock | i disconnected and didn't see any answer last time i asked. |
| 17:15.51 | Hock | how about Mal'Ganis? |
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| 17:17.04 | deltron | goon squad heh |
| 17:24.05 | kagaro | CIA-17 dead? |
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| 17:26.46 | kagaro | wierd i commited a change but it isnt showing up yet |
| 17:27.01 | Neriak | dito |
| 17:27.37 | Neriak | ~seen CIA-17 |
| 17:28.04 | purl | cia-17 is currently on #wowace (3d 15h 3m 37s). Has said a total of 878 messages. Is idling for 3h 8m 12s, last said: 'ow'. |
| 17:28.04 | kagaro | im not seeing it on the web either |
| 17:28.21 | Neriak | uh-oh ... but the wowace forums are also lagging like hell |
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| 17:28.35 | Neriak | I had a session time out while posting a reply |
| 17:29.08 | Elkano | ~slap CIA-17 |
| 17:29.11 | purl | ACTION slaps CIA-17, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 17:29.18 | Neriak | Is idling for 3h 8m 12s, last said: 'ow'. ??? |
| 17:29.21 | Neriak | wtf |
| 17:29.30 | Elkano | hmm... what was the command to 'reset' CIA? |
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| 17:29.39 | kagaro | well i checked dev.wowace.com my changes are there so ill check the mirrors a little later |
| 17:29.40 | Grine | ~slap CIA |
| 17:29.41 | purl | ACTION slaps CIA, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 17:29.53 | Grine | hmm, didn't say 'ow' to that... |
| 17:30.08 | Elkano | ~poke CIA-17 |
| 17:30.29 | JoshBork1 | pastamancer: ping |
| 17:30.42 | Fisker- | wow |
| 17:30.50 | Fisker- | RaidAgent uses a lot of memory |
| 17:30.55 | kagaro | do any of you know is there an api to setup the poi arrow on the minnimap ? |
| 17:30.57 | Neriak | Neriak: ping |
| 17:31.26 | Neriak | maybe trac died |
| 17:31.38 | Neriak | k, have to got guys .. .laters |
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| 17:44.34 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan 07Karl * r23374 10GrouperLFG/GrouperLFG/Core.lua: |
| 17:44.34 | CIA-17 | GrouperLFG: |
| 17:44.34 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.34 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:44.47 | KarlThePagan | cia's better |
| 17:46.18 | CIA-17 | 03cinedelle * r23375 10KingOfTheJungle/ (KingOfTheJungle.toc Locales/KingOfTheJungle-frFR.lua): |
| 17:46.18 | CIA-17 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 17:46.18 | CIA-17 | - frFR localization file added |
| 17:46.19 | CIA-17 | - toc modified to declare it |
| 17:46.56 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23376 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - Added a "safe" mode for mobs with the same name |
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| 17:50.04 | Adirelle|afk | cya |
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| 17:52.05 | Wogroipl | anyone here using Baggins? |
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| 17:53.05 | Hjalte | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:53.28 | pastamancer | JoshBork1: pong |
| 17:53.57 | Wogroipl | I am a shaman, and I would like to get my Ankhs listed as consumables, but somehow I can't seem to filter them into that bag |
| 17:54.05 | JoshBork1 | i responded to your response |
| 17:54.18 | pastamancer | JoshBork1: cool, will go read |
| 17:55.34 | Wogroipl | I have tried a string match for Ankh, and an ItemID match, but they both don't work, or I don't understand it |
| 17:55.35 | pastamancer | JoshBork1: aha, sounds good. I'll look into it. |
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| 17:58.10 | Hjalte | Wogroipl: Well, you could check the Periodic Table sets for shaman related items and if you are lucky, you will find a totem set. If not, adding several item id's to a rule for a category should move them..? |
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| 17:59.09 | Wogroipl | I think I did it right, but it won't update the bags. Tried the same thing for AD commission |
| 17:59.11 | pastamancer | JoshBork1: where's the official source for ChatThrottleLib? |
| 18:00.09 | JoshBork1 | pastamancer: you can look up ChatThrottleLib on wowi. i just cut and pasted from AceComm |
| 18:00.54 | Wogroipl | when I click on apply nothing happens |
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| 18:01.34 | Hjalte | Wogroipl: When you go to change categories, all items in you bags will have their item id's displayed. Go to the category you want to have the totems in and add a new rule and select item id as denominator and then enter all the totems item ids seperated by comma |
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| 18:01.46 | Hjalte | Have you tried applying, then opening and closing your bags? |
| 18:02.05 | Wogroipl | yes |
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| 18:03.11 | Hock | jesus |
| 18:03.16 | Hock | disconnects left and right |
| 18:03.21 | Hock | anyway ... i'll ask again. |
| 18:03.27 | Hock | is it at all possible to grind cenarion expedition, honor hold, sporeggar, lower city, The aldor, The Scryers, or The Sha'tar repuations prior to BC? |
| 18:03.41 | dotted | no |
| 18:03.42 | JoshBork1 | don't think so |
| 18:03.45 | JoshBork1 | sense they are all in outlands |
| 18:03.58 | dotted | but Exodar is possible and Sunwell is likely too |
| 18:03.59 | kenlyric|work | hmmm... honorfu should show total honor points so I don't have to open my character screen. It cuts into my lazy. |
| 18:04.21 | kenlyric|work | people have hit exalted with exodar and whatever the blood elves are. |
| 18:04.30 | Hjalte | Wogroipl, then i have no clue. It works for me :) |
| 18:04.41 | Hock | exodar - where do you get that rep? |
| 18:04.50 | Hock | where do "they" grind it? |
| 18:04.55 | pastamancer | JoshBork1: do you have something that lists the order that the channeling events can arrive in? |
| 18:04.59 | Wogroipl | Hjalte: haha, I'm gonna fiddle some more, half of the fun ain't it? |
| 18:05.08 | kenlyric|work | Hock: there are questws all around which will get you to honored, then you do AV turnins. |
| 18:05.25 | JoshBork1 | pastamancer: no, i haven't done much research on the events. all i know is it's a pita because both raidX and partyX can get fired for the same person |
| 18:05.32 | kenlyric|work | when you turnin stuff inside of AV, you get alliance rep/horde rep. Goes for all 5 races. |
| 18:06.18 | Hock | nm. found it on wowwiki |
| 18:06.19 | Hock | Anchorite Truuen in Chillwind Point, Western Plaguelands Ambassador Rualeth in Aerie Peak, Hinterlands Huraan in Southshore, Hillsbrad Foothills Anchorite Avuun in Harborage, Swamp of Sorrows Vindicator Palanaar in Astranaar, Ashenvale Various Forest Song NPCs, Ashenvale (Forest Song has been radically changed from containing a sole Night Elf NPC to a major quest hub for Alliance players, featuring several Night Elf and Draenei NPCs, inc |
| 18:06.36 | pastamancer | JoshBork1: ok, I'll use my crash-test warlock |
| 18:06.51 | Hjalte | wogroipl, indeed ;) Have you tried assigning other items to categories? |
| 18:08.10 | Wogroipl | Hjalte: Aye, my AD commission is listed twice, under gear and under trash, so I tried to get all soulbound stuff out of trash |
| 18:08.19 | Wogroipl | but that didn't work either |
| 18:08.46 | Wogroipl | I added the rule NOT soulbound to trash |
| 18:09.27 | Fisker- | oh and btw |
| 18:09.32 | Fisker- | Pedobear was against the rules |
| 18:09.41 | pastamancer | lol |
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| 18:10.33 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23377 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/ (Bars.lua Core.lua Locals/enUS.lua RuleSet.lua): FuBar_WarlockTimerFu: Added a "safe" mode for multiple npcs with same name |
| 18:11.11 | Hjalte | Wogroipl: I did a tradeskill bag. It worked out just fine. Will try and see if i can get my AD trinket out of trash now. |
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| 18:12.18 | Wogroipl | Hjalte: did a reloadUI now, no luck either :/ |
| 18:15.02 | Wogroipl | Hjalte: I made a new section now, and put the ItemIDs in there, works fine now :) |
| 18:15.27 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23378 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_WarlockTimerFu: oops fixed |
| 18:15.36 | Fisker- | btw nymbia where is the droprates in PT from? |
| 18:15.43 | nymbia | wowhead |
| 18:15.46 | Fisker- | ok |
| 18:15.59 | Fisker- | are they updated each commit or what then? |
| 18:16.04 | Hjalte | Wogroipl: Great - and by the way, to remove your AD trinket, but the NOT soulbound rule to the trash equip category :) |
| 18:16.32 | nymbia | Fisker-: whenever i (or someone else) runs the dataminer ;) |
| 18:16.56 | Fisker- | ok :) |
| 18:18.07 | Wogroipl | Hjalte: W000t it works, thanks a ton :) |
| 18:19.11 | JoshBork1 | pastamancer: oh yea, and would you consider providing an API to get the target information for a spell without having to register a callback function? |
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| 18:19.49 | pastamancer | JoshBork1: how so? I'm not caching any received information |
| 18:20.03 | JoshBork1 | cache the target? ^_^ |
| 18:20.10 | pastamancer | :) |
| 18:20.14 | JoshBork1 | and wait, you're not caching? |
| 18:20.21 | JoshBork1 | how do you handle delays between SENT and START? |
| 18:20.22 | pastamancer | nope |
| 18:20.44 | pastamancer | I'm not listening to START |
| 18:21.00 | JoshBork1 | hm, so you're sending out a START when a SENT happens? |
| 18:21.06 | pastamancer | yeah |
| 18:21.24 | JoshBork1 | i see |
| 18:21.58 | pastamancer | the addon message should lag the same amount as the spell cast I suppose |
| 18:22.27 | JoshBork1 | tis true |
| 18:22.46 | pastamancer | and if I cached target, I'd need to send SUCCESS as well |
| 18:23.06 | pastamancer | which wouldn't necessarialy be a bad thing |
| 18:23.14 | Fisker- | btw haste |
| 18:23.30 | Fisker- | dunno if you have updated your ocb since you put it off the svn |
| 18:23.46 | Fisker- | but i get this blank casting bar when deathknight captains do whirlwind |
| 18:23.57 | Fisker- | which then produces a lot of errors |
| 18:24.02 | haste | then it's not my version |
| 18:24.27 | JoshBork1 | haste: when you gonna upload oCB to wowi? :-( |
| 18:24.32 | haste | unless you're mind controlling them or something |
| 18:24.33 | ravagernl | haste is oUF available anywhere? |
| 18:24.44 | haste | JoshBork1: when I'm finished with changes |
| 18:24.47 | Fisker- | it's not even the target cast bar |
| 18:25.02 | Fisker- | although the problem could be related |
| 18:25.06 | haste | ravagernl: no, oUF is pretty much stalled due to the fact that my guild doesn't raid |
| 18:25.55 | haste | Fisker-: I didn't have that problem with my last version, so unless something suddenly have been changed I will continue to blame the un-official one |
| 18:26.03 | pastamancer | what to call the "hey, who was joe casting at" function? |
| 18:26.23 | JoshBork1 | SpellTarget |
| 18:26.23 | Gngsk | heyjoe() |
| 18:26.45 | ravagernl | would be awesome to have it back, agUF is nice but it doesnt allow me to set the height of the bars haste |
| 18:26.46 | pastamancer | it would take the caster's name as an argument and return the target's name |
| 18:27.30 | JoshBork1 | pastamancer: http://www.wowwiki.com/SpellSyncLib |
| 18:27.33 | Gngsk | UnitSpellTarget("unit") |
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| 18:27.44 | Tornhoof | is there any good way to get around all those raidframe addon blocked messages?, i mean without using bugsack and filter, more like fixing it properl ;) |
| 18:27.46 | JoshBork1 | is what i wrote up originally |
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| 18:27.53 | pastamancer | I'm not doing name->unit lookups |
| 18:27.55 | haste | ravagernl: My guild is probably dead until the 16th. We're having the first raid break since we started raiding |
| 18:28.39 | Fisker- | script command for common loot treshold? |
| 18:28.40 | ravagernl | ? why do you need a raid to make unitframes, I thought oUF was party player and target only |
| 18:29.01 | haste | ravagernl: no raiding = me not playing =) |
| 18:29.07 | ravagernl | :o |
| 18:29.19 | kenlyric|work | haste: oh, you'll be dead longer than the 16th :) |
| 18:29.31 | haste | kenlyric|work: no, I will kinda have to level then :p |
| 18:29.45 | kenlyric|work | you assume being able to login. That's cute ;) |
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| 18:29.58 | steino | our server owns, so ofc we can login |
| 18:30.01 | steino | :) |
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| 18:30.19 | haste | it had 1800 queues for a while, it owns |
| 18:30.35 | TheKarn | i'm on daggerspine-eu |
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| 18:30.41 | TheKarn | there's no such thing as queues |
| 18:30.42 | haste | but I still get ~30 ms in-game |
| 18:31.00 | kenlyric|work | heh, eternal optimism, I guess. |
| 18:31.20 | steino | haste: we havent seen queues in ages tho >.< |
| 18:31.21 | haste | kenlyric|work: not being able to login just means I get one more day of doing other stuff anyway |
| 18:31.25 | Fisker- | Anyone got the script command for setting common the treshold for master looter? |
| 18:32.48 | SoLoR | <TheKarn> i'm on daggerspine-e |
| 18:32.52 | SoLoR | ? really? |
| 18:33.06 | TheKarn | yeah |
| 18:33.12 | SoLoR | old server until kazzak transfer |
| 18:33.18 | TheKarn | lol |
| 18:33.21 | SoLoR | :P |
| 18:33.34 | TheKarn | i transfered from bloodfeather :) |
| 18:34.03 | SoLoR | oh well we where kinda "forced" since DS used to be TOTAL crap |
| 18:34.18 | SoLoR | then it was "ghost" server for a while... dunno about now :) |
| 18:38.24 | TheKarn | its a generally populated server |
| 18:38.38 | Ordog | do you pay 20 bucks for trasnfers too? overseas? |
| 18:39.19 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetLootMethod <-why doesn't this work? |
| 18:39.23 | Ordog | i keep getting disced on worldspawn |
| 18:39.34 | Ordog | cant find anything bout that on supprtforums |
| 18:40.09 | TheKarn | 20bucks? i;d love to |
| 18:40.14 | TheKarn | i pay £15 |
| 18:41.04 | Ordog | i pay 20€ .. oh thats 26$ nowadays... |
| 18:41.12 | pastamancer | JoshBork1: http://ace.pastey.net/4505 |
| 18:41.18 | Ominous | have us got 2.03? |
| 18:41.59 | Saroz | nice concept JoshBork1, but gogo implement |
| 18:42.22 | pastamancer | hey Saroz |
| 18:42.26 | Saroz | heya |
| 18:42.27 | Ordog | waaaah did somebody got discs on worldspawn ever? how to solve that? no blizz support on that available ... |
| 18:43.15 | Elkano | for those speaking German: http://www.abload.de/img/gmtalk5o2.jpg |
| 18:43.19 | Saroz | :SetNonSpaceWrap(true) works like shit |
| 18:44.44 | Fisker- | Anyone know why i can't set loot treshold via script anymore? |
| 18:45.52 | Tornhoof | what did you expect elkano ;) |
| 18:46.42 | Elkano | not my screenshot ^^ |
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| 18:48.06 | JoshBork1 | Saroz: http://svn.joshborke.is-a-geek.com/trunk/SpellSyncLib |
| 18:48.44 | Saroz | nice |
| 18:49.15 | JoshBork1 | let me know if you'd like to be able to commit to it |
| 18:50.13 | JoshBork1 | it's pretty much sat there for the past month :-D |
| 18:51.52 | Hjalte | Anyone here that has played with Back Seat Driver? |
| 18:54.29 | Fisker- | Anyone know how to get a common treshold on loot? |
| 18:55.13 | Thorgard | gief translation, Elkano. |
| 18:55.40 | pastamancer | JoshBork1: actually, I think I like http://ace.pastey.net/4506 better for ChatThrottleLib support |
| 18:56.02 | Srosh | rofl, Elkano |
| 18:56.16 | Srosh | the GM basically says he's into hairy female dwarfs :p |
| 18:57.31 | Saroz | ok, I need some assistance, I have a frame which I need to make clickthrough so if you click that frame, the click will land on the frame below |
| 18:57.32 | Saroz | any ideas? |
| 18:57.40 | JoshBork1 | pastamancer: and then include the rest of CTL at the end like i have already done? |
| 18:57.50 | JoshBork1 | Saroz: EnableMouse(false) |
| 18:58.10 | pastamancer | JoshBork1: nah, just recommend that developers include CTL with their addon |
| 18:58.30 | Saroz | thx JoshBork1, will test |
| 18:58.48 | pastamancer | it'll use CTL if any addon is using it, otherwise not |
| 18:59.29 | pastamancer | then I don't have to worry about distributing or keeping up to date with CTL |
| 18:59.38 | Saroz | wut, works |
| 19:02.09 | Wogroipl | Hjalte: are you still there? |
| 19:02.17 | Hjalte | Wogroipl: Yea |
| 19:03.04 | Wogroipl | any idea why my greater NR pots show up as misc consumables? and the FR pots as potions? |
| 19:03.39 | Hjalte | Wogroipl: That's because of Periodic Table |
| 19:03.45 | Hjalte | An ace library |
| 19:04.01 | Wogroipl | so I have to manually change that? |
| 19:04.35 | Saroz | JoshBork1, if I do EnableMouse(false) then it won't display tooltips though |
| 19:05.13 | Hjalte | Wogroipl: Yes, the easiest way might to take the item numbers for these items and just put them in the correct categories untill it is fixed in PT |
| 19:05.40 | ckknight | pastamancer: AceComm includes it |
| 19:05.42 | Wogroipl | okies, thanks again for the help :) |
| 19:06.24 | nymbia | i should get the miner working on potions one of these days |
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| 19:08.09 | Ordog | omg does the warden client really kick you from server when you got a window with a tilte where "bot" appears?! |
| 19:08.15 | Ordog | title* |
| 19:09.00 | Ordog | i just closed winscp which was connected to my eggdrop shell and i could connect again Oo |
| 19:09.09 | Fisker- | ckknight |
| 19:09.18 | Fisker- | you know why i can't set ML to common treshold? |
| 19:09.27 | Fisker- | did they protect that or something like that? |
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| 19:09.37 | haste | 'cause it's not ment to be like that in the first place? |
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| 19:09.50 | pastamancer | ckknight: I know |
| 19:09.52 | Ordog | if they protected it you get an error that states exactly that |
| 19:10.08 | Fisker- | No error |
| 19:10.11 | Fisker- | it just doesn't do anything |
| 19:10.19 | Fisker- | i can't even put it to normal tresholds |
| 19:11.44 | Fisker- | and common loot treshold is good :( |
| 19:11.44 | Fisker- | it allows you to easier get stuff like coffer keys and word of thawing |
| 19:13.53 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 19:15.25 | Fisker- | >8D? |
| 19:15.37 | ZealotOnAStick | There's no support for any threshold below uncommon to my knowledge. |
| 19:16.15 | Fisker- | nope not officially |
| 19:16.21 | dafire | hmm.. is there a way to close the fubar tablet onclick? I open a dewdrop with the click on a line but it's hidden then under the tablet .9 |
| 19:16.44 | Fisker- | But before 2.0.1 atleast you could write /script SetLootMethod("Master","Name",0-6); |
| 19:16.53 | Fisker- | 0 was uncommon and 6 was artifact |
| 19:16.58 | Fisker- | errr |
| 19:17.05 | Fisker- | 0 was junk(grey) |
| 19:17.13 | dafire | there is a function just for the level |
| 19:17.38 | dafire | perhaps /script SetLootThreshold(0) |
| 19:17.42 | dafire | still works ? |
| 19:17.56 | Fisker- | i'll try |
| 19:18.03 | JoshBork1 | Saroz: you could try enabling mouse but disabling all clicks? |
| 19:18.03 | Fisker- | you fucking 0wn |
| 19:18.11 | Saroz | I did JoshBork1, didnt help |
| 19:18.12 | groll | bah lost all cartographer spots :/ |
| 19:18.16 | Fisker- | now i just needed to know that half an our ago |
| 19:18.17 | Fisker- | :P |
| 19:18.17 | JoshBork1 | i dunno if you can have tooltips and have it click through |
| 19:18.19 | groll | i clicked the wrong thing i guess |
| 19:18.25 | Fisker- | s/our/hour/ |
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| 19:23.50 | kagaro | groll what did you click? |
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| 19:32.41 | Dhraga | botmail sylvanaar: Hiya, Pastamancer thought this sounded interesting but had his hands full and asked me to talk to you about it... Ill paste it into the next botmail. |
| 19:33.34 | hyperChipmunk | it's 'purl, botmail ...' I think |
| 19:33.40 | CIA-17 | 03jerry * r23379 10Links/ (. Links.lua Links.toc): Links: initial import |
| 19:34.00 | Dhraga | Ya silly me :P |
| 19:34.09 | Dhraga | Thanks :P |
| 19:34.11 | ckknight | what's Links? |
| 19:34.16 | ckknight | and who is Jerry? |
| 19:34.55 | Eternally777 | I've seen his name before. |
| 19:35.06 | Eternally777 | But I don't know what Links is. |
| 19:35.25 | Eternally777 | I am very impressed by this IRC client though -- the one built into the Opera browser. |
| 19:35.46 | ckknight | alright |
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| 19:36.02 | ckknight | meh, I like Colloquy |
| 19:36.05 | ckknight | works nicely |
| 19:36.28 | CIA-17 | 03jerry * r23380 10Links/Libs/: Links - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed) |
| 19:36.44 | Eternally777 | I'm a Windows person myself. |
| 19:37.22 | kagaro | colloquy works well |
| 19:37.54 | Eternally777 | Links looks like a new Link Wrangler |
| 19:38.06 | Eternally777 | Upon a brief glance over. |
| 19:38.16 | Eternally777 | Which would be incredibly useful imo. |
| 19:38.40 | KarlThePagan | But father, I'm alive. See? And I'm... I'm... I'm a real library! |
| 19:38.41 | KarlThePagan | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Bits |
| 19:38.46 | CIA-17 | 03jerry * r23381 10Links/Links.toc: Links: fixed toc for InBed |
| 19:38.48 | KarlThePagan | (fully documented) |
| 19:39.02 | CIA-17 | 03jerry * r23382 10Links/Links.toc: Links - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed) |
| 19:40.42 | Eternally777 | Yep, that's exactly what Links does: allows multiple item tooltips to be displayed at once. Awesome. |
| 19:41.38 | ckknight | ah, cool |
| 19:41.54 | kergoth | nice, wonder how it is |
| 19:42.14 | kergoth | i saw another addon that did that on some addon site ht other day.. multitips.. it was ace2 even, but somewhat odd behaviorally |
| 19:43.00 | Eternally777 | Works well as far as I can tell. |
| 19:43.18 | Eternally777 | Minimize buttons on the tooltips would be cool though. |
| 19:44.07 | Elkano | but seems like links needs 2.0.3, doesn't it? |
| 19:44.17 | kergoth | do all the links close on hitting escape? please? |
| 19:44.50 | MoonWolf | deucecommander + ace2commad line options spoilled me. |
| 19:45.26 | MoonWolf | It makes non ace addons look so clumsy with their options from time to time. |
| 19:45.31 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:45.56 | Gngsk | Anyone using NanoStats2 from branches? |
| 19:45.59 | Eternally777 | Elkano: Hmm, the TOC says 20000. Works fine on the 20003 beta though. |
| 19:46.14 | MoonWolf | I'll be like, tab... tab... why isn't it autocompleting, that right, not ace2... sigh. |
| 19:46.19 | kebinusan | Gngsk: I use NS2, I forget if its branched or not |
| 19:46.25 | kergoth | i use it too |
| 19:46.37 | Gngsk | I don't have an svn client, and the files section doesn't do branches right? |
| 19:46.44 | pastamancer | ack, why has it taken me this long to find psvn.el?! |
| 19:46.45 | Eternally777 | kergoth: Hitting escape doesn't close any tooltips :-P |
| 19:46.46 | Gngsk | I'm missing it though :( |
| 19:47.06 | kebinusan | Gngsk: it got moved to trunk IIRC |
| 19:47.26 | kergoth | pastamancer: whassat? |
| 19:47.28 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23383 10Ace2/ (13 files in 13 dirs): Ace2 - relicensing under LGPL v2.1, except for AceOO-2.0, which is licensed under MIT. |
| 19:47.33 | Gngsk | kebinusan, hmm |
| 19:47.52 | pastamancer | kergoth: like pcl-cvs http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/contrib/client-side/psvn/psvn.el |
| 19:47.52 | kebinusan | whats with all the licensing stuff goin on |
| 19:48.05 | kergoth | ahh cool |
| 19:48.29 | Elkano | Eternally777, well, it looks like he's using the new drag'n'drop functions for items |
| 19:48.32 | Gngsk | kebinusan, don't see it in /files/ |
| 19:48.35 | Fisker- | Why the transreprancy ckknight ? |
| 19:48.39 | Fisker- | or however it's spelled |
| 19:48.40 | ckknight | kebinusan: it's so we aren't all infringing on everyone else |
| 19:48.51 | ckknight | transreprancy? |
| 19:49.02 | kergoth | without a license, you have no official rights to use the code at all, the copyrights are theirs, the rights are reserved. choosing a license just makes sense to avoid issues |
| 19:49.29 | Fisker- | can't even remember how it's spelled |
| 19:49.36 | ckknight | pretty much what kergoth said. |
| 19:49.36 | Fisker- | But basically why the difference? :P |
| 19:49.43 | JoshBork1 | transcrepancy? |
| 19:50.02 | JoshBork1 | which isn't a word... |
| 19:50.03 | ckknight | Fisker-: nothing's changing, really, now you just have a right to use it instead of before when you had no rights |
| 19:50.21 | Gngsk | Anyway, I guess what I'm tryin' to get at is if someone could provide a dl link to NS2Fu and NS2 Core/Duration/Damage/Healing for me |
| 19:50.23 | Fisker- | I meant why is AceOO under the MIT license? :P |
| 19:50.41 | ckknight | Fisker-: because it's usable outside of WoW |
| 19:50.46 | ckknight | and kergoth wanted it MIT |
| 19:50.56 | Fisker- | ok :P |
| 19:51.33 | kergoth | its more capable than pretty much any OO implementation for lua i've seen, and i've gone through all of the ones posted on the mailing lists, wikis, and ones within the source trees of lua projects |
| 19:51.57 | MoonWolf | and its all yours, well mostly anyway. |
| 19:52.03 | ckknight | mostly |
| 19:52.04 | kebinusan | Gngsk: I'll try and check it out and ping the toc for you |
| 19:52.14 | ckknight | I added stuff onto it, MoonWolf, but I agree with kergoth for it being MIT |
| 19:52.22 | MoonWolf | indeed. |
| 19:52.24 | Gngsk | kebinusan, thx I'd appreciate that |
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| 19:54.22 | kergoth | http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200701/pup/badmemory.gif - i love thedailywtf |
| 19:54.31 | Gngsk | kebinusan, the NanoStats in trunk is the old Ace1 version |
| 19:54.56 | kebinusan | hmm so it is |
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| 19:59.52 | Wogroipl | ~seen Xuerian |
| 20:00.29 | purl | xuerian <n=core@12-196-151-106.psknet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 14h 6m 37s ago, saying: 'What's the purlism to leave a message for someone that gets delivered next time they log on? :P'. |
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| 20:02.22 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, looks like mikord read my message about parserlib - perhaps things will be in motion soon |
| 20:03.05 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: alright |
| 20:03.31 | KarlThePagan | ~seen Mikord |
| 20:03.34 | purl | mikord <n=noone@cpe-68-206-159-82.hot.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 10d 13h 56s ago, saying: 'Guillotine: If I recall most of the sounds are in the speech.mpq'. |
| 20:04.08 | KarlThePagan | just 1 major feature hurtle until I push Grouper into the trunk |
| 20:05.32 | KarlThePagan | *hurdle |
| 20:17.16 | ZealotOnAStick | I don't suppose anyone would care to look at Glory-2.0 837-904 and figure out how to change the algorithms in those functions to fix the BGs for 2007? |
| 20:19.04 | Wogroipl | hmmm, can Baggins display how much gold I have? |
| 20:19.29 | naenae | Nope |
| 20:19.36 | Wogroipl | awww :( |
| 20:21.12 | kenlyric|work | awww indeed. |
| 20:22.49 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: well, do you have a list of what BGs are going to happen? |
| 20:22.57 | ckknight | if you do, an algorithm is easy to come up with |
| 20:22.59 | Dekuna | what's the best Ace alternative to CTMailMod? GMail? |
| 20:23.11 | ckknight | basically. |
| 20:23.21 | hyperChipmunk | pfeh! |
| 20:23.45 | ZealotOnAStick | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/events/calendar |
| 20:23.47 | Gngsk | Ace2 teh bulkmail! |
| 20:23.48 | hyperChipmunk | I'm rewriting BulkMail as we speak |
| 20:23.56 | Amadeo | yay |
| 20:24.16 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. |
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| 20:24.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Actually . . . |
| 20:24.22 | kenlyric|work | will it also bulk open? |
| 20:24.29 | Gngsk | GMail is being rewritten too. |
| 20:24.41 | Gngsk | Postal (aka GMail2) |
| 20:25.00 | hyperChipmunk | BULK MAIL IS NOT A MAIL RECEIPT ADDON!!!!!!! |
| 20:25.04 | kenlyric|work | I thought postal was a library for mail handling. |
| 20:25.09 | ZealotOnAStick | If I just change the numbers on the Glory:GetCurrentOrNext_bghere_Weekend() to different ones, it fixes it for this month. |
| 20:25.12 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm not sure for beyond that. |
| 20:25.13 | Amadeo | I need receipts for my mail, in case I want to return it! |
| 20:25.13 | kenlyric|work | hyperChipmunk: I know. |
| 20:25.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Making Arathi 1, Warsong 4, and Alterac 3 makes it work for January. |
| 20:25.34 | Gngsk | kenlyric|work, it was but grennon decided to rename it Postal |
| 20:25.42 | Amadeo | I like Postal better |
| 20:26.59 | ckknight | Postal's a good name |
| 20:27.08 | Amadeo | I want a GPS unit of some sort, that can do driving directions too |
| 20:27.15 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 20:27.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Is that going to fix it for the entire year, or is it just a "happens to work" hack for January? How can I test it for future BG weekends? |
| 20:27.22 | Amadeo | anyone have one? |
| 20:27.27 | Dekuna | also, does anyone here use Mendeleev? how much memory does it use? i'm usually scared by mods that store information about items |
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| 20:29.08 | Nickenyfiken | i use it |
| 20:29.35 | Nickenyfiken | i think its ok... atleast if you have many addons using periodic table |
| 20:31.37 | TheKarn | i just hack together easier ways of choosing PT sets |
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| 20:32.24 | nymbia | mendy's still on pt1, iirc |
| 20:32.32 | TheKarn | eww |
| 20:34.51 | CIA-17 | 03cinedelle * r23384 10KingOfTheJungle/Locales/KingOfTheJungle-frFR.lua: |
| 20:34.51 | CIA-17 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 20:34.51 | CIA-17 | -frFR updated |
| 20:34.58 | ZealotOnAStick | Who's baby is GloryLib? |
| 20:36.23 | nevcairiel | ckk |
| 20:37.24 | ckknight | mine |
| 20:37.24 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 20:37.24 | ckknight | anad hyperChipmunk and Elkano's |
| 20:37.24 | ckknight | group project |
| 20:37.26 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight - read up a touch and comment on my change and question? |
| 20:37.34 | ckknight | nope. |
| 20:37.38 | ckknight | nev |
| 20:37.54 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 20:37.56 | hyperChipmunk | i'm only responsible for the working stuff, though |
| 20:38.02 | ckknight | nevcairiel: you pinged me. |
| 20:38.10 | nevcairiel | i answered ZealotOnAStick |
| 20:38.27 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: I'm sick and not thinking straight |
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| 20:40.10 | Funkeh` | hey all |
| 20:40.51 | ckknight | hey Funkeh` |
| 20:40.59 | ZealotOnAStick | hyperChipmunk - you want to look at it, then? I'm unsure if the change I made on my local copy is just a fortuitous hack for January, or if it "fixes" the whole year (though it'll have to be rewritten for TBC anyway for the other BG) |
| 20:41.30 | kenlyric|work | soo, what's the point if they don't give bonus honor anymore? |
| 20:41.45 | kenlyric|work | or are those rumors untrue? |
| 20:41.52 | ckknight | kenlyric|work: untrue |
| 20:41.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Uhm, I bloody well got bonus honor last weekend. |
| 20:42.26 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: frankly, if it needs to be updated every month, it's not a big deal. |
| 20:42.26 | Antiarc | I got bonus honor all week long. I was sick and basically BG'd every moment I wasn't sleeping. |
| 20:42.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Tokens can no longer be turned in for honor. Bonus honor on BG weekends is intact AFAIK |
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| 20:43.16 | dafire | thats correct |
| 20:43.40 | dafire | but i think i got ws honor all week |
| 20:43.46 | dafire | not sure .9 |
| 20:45.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, my "fix" is on the "HonorFu BG Holidays" thread. Someone else can commit or not and touch the affected addons to get the externals to update. |
| 20:46.22 | nymbia | no need to do those touches anymore |
| 20:46.28 | Fisker- | snurre- |
| 20:46.31 | Fisker- | you win this round :( |
| 20:46.39 | kenlyric|work | ug, forum start page is still a "we're overloaded" page. |
| 20:46.50 | ZealotOnAStick | nymbia: Why not? |
| 20:47.13 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: the zip script updates all addons to the current externals every 20 minutes |
| 20:47.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh. Does that increment the revision on it as well so things like WAU will know to redownload? |
| 20:47.51 | nymbia | nope :( |
| 20:52.05 | kenlyric|work | bg weekends for a specific battleground start 28 days apart, or are they tied to the month in some way, like the darkmoon faire is? |
| 20:52.11 | nymbia | so i suppose if it's a super-important change then it's good to touch it |
| 20:52.24 | nymbia | 28 days, iirc. |
| 20:52.48 | nymbia | wonder how they'll work in eye of the storm |
| 20:53.01 | kenlyric|work | either they completely change the system, or don't have an off week. |
| 20:53.05 | Antiarc | Maybe Eye will fill the off week |
| 20:53.10 | nymbia | http://worldofwarcraft.com/info/events/calendar/ |
| 20:53.39 | ZealotOnAStick | Eye will fill the off week. |
| 20:53.47 | kenlyric|work | Lunar Festival yay! |
| 20:53.53 | ZealotOnAStick | The events calendar there doesn't have anything for TBC. |
| 20:54.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Non-BC players will probably have an off week during the EotS week. |
| 20:54.46 | nymbia | ZealotOnAStick: does EotS have its weekends implemented on beta? |
| 20:55.42 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23385 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/ (Core.lua RuleSet.lua): FuBar_WarlockTimerFu: oops resists miss etc now work |
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| 21:04.44 | Fisker- | lol |
| 21:04.51 | Fisker- | we got like half the raid trying to jump up on some wall in naxx |
| 21:04.55 | Fisker- | because i got up there |
| 21:05.47 | KarlThePagan | awesome |
| 21:06.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahh, which one? |
| 21:06.21 | ZealotOnAStick | I got up on top of one of the pillars off to the left of the entrance in AQ40 the other day. |
| 21:06.55 | Fisker- | at instructor razewhatevver |
| 21:07.02 | Fisker- | there's this ledge or something on the wall |
| 21:09.05 | ZealotOnAStick | I'll have to take a look at it next week, or maybe when we go to Gothik Sunday. |
| 21:10.03 | Fisker- | gonna get a screen for you |
| 21:15.27 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23386 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/ (Core.lua RuleSet.lua): FuBar_WarlockTimerFu: Now inferno ending works |
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| 21:17.29 | Fisker- | http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8387/walljumpgz2.jpg |
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| 21:21.03 | Elkano | Fisker, what are RaidInfo and RaidSpy for? |
| 21:21.21 | Fisker- | raidinfo is for cooldowns |
| 21:21.30 | Fisker- | raidspy is for durabillity/item/etc. checks |
| 21:21.38 | ZealotOnAStick | RaidSpy is dual-use, lets you know when a leader or assist runs resist/item/reagent checks . . . |
| 21:21.46 | ZealotOnAStick | and can cache the results of those when others run them. |
| 21:21.46 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 21:22.05 | Elkano | doesn't oRA2 do taht, too? |
| 21:22.27 | Elkano | (well, I never raided ^^') |
| 21:23.22 | ZealotOnAStick | it might do the caching, I don't know. But oRA2 definitely doesn't do the notification deal. |
| 21:26.59 | Antiarc | I've liked RaidSpy :D |
| 21:27.04 | Antiarc | It's a nice little utility. |
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| 21:28.42 | ckknight | hey MoonWolf |
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| 21:40.27 | Fisker- | lol |
| 21:40.41 | Fisker- | Someone asked me what "Desecrated Sandals" were for |
| 21:40.54 | nymbia | rofl |
| 21:41.05 | Fisker- | "Well you don't wear sandals on your hands now do you?" |
| 21:41.30 | kagaro | ck: ping |
| 21:41.39 | kenlyric|work | hmmm.. did they ask what slot they were used for? |
| 21:41.52 | kenlyric|work | maybe they don't know what desecrated items do at all. |
| 21:42.05 | ckknight | kagaro: hrm? |
| 21:42.53 | kagaro | im gona remove the Send to Player option from Notes.. for most people it seems to disconnect (damn blizz filter) |
| 21:43.16 | ckknight | good plan |
| 21:43.24 | ckknight | I'm thinking of disabling it in AceComm as well |
| 21:43.28 | Fisker- | kenlyric|work yeah he did |
| 21:43.39 | sbu | oh hm, the guy who did Cartographer_Vendors isnt here i guess? :p |
| 21:43.50 | kagaro | all the stuff going on addon channel is fine, just blizz's other chan filters kills your client |
| 21:44.47 | kagaro | sbu: dont think so |
| 21:44.50 | kagaro | brb |
| 21:46.19 | kenlyric|work | Fisker-: Yeah, then I agree. Dumb :) |
| 21:46.38 | CIA-17 | 03grennon * r23387 10/branches/Postal/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Postal: Separated Inventory/Bag/Slot handling functions into BagLib subdir. |
| 21:47.50 | Hock | is anyone having any issues with wands? a friend of mine has rod of corrosion and it's doing 1 damage to my level 44 and critting for 2. |
| 21:48.05 | Hock | actually, it happens to any of his wands. |
| 21:48.09 | Hock | cold snap too |
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| 21:48.51 | Nickenyfiken | maybe they are broken :-P |
| 21:53.08 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r23388 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer_Notes/Modules/Notes: removed send to player function |
| 21:53.58 | kagaro | ck: if they are in group/guild it just doesnt show a send note in the drop down .. tested with my unguilded bank alt and my guilded main |
| 21:54.20 | ckknight | kagaro: I'd say have it disabled instead of hidden. |
| 21:54.39 | ravagernl | tornhoof, are you going to make the totem timer bars clickable, as in click to recast? |
| 21:55.53 | Tornhoof | not possible |
| 21:57.41 | ravagernl | I see |
| 21:57.54 | [dRaCo] | you can just hide the top (non-hidden) totem of each element, is that due to some limitations or a bug? |
| 21:58.06 | ravagernl | As I remember chronometer can recast by clicking on the bars |
| 21:58.20 | [dRaCo] | before the patch, maybe |
| 21:58.29 | ravagernl | hmm yeah |
| 21:58.33 | ravagernl | too bad :( |
| 22:00.30 | kagaro | ck: shoukd i set hasArrow to false to disable the 'Send note' menu item ? setitng it to disabled didnt help |
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| 22:00.50 | ckknight | hrm, disabled = true should do it... |
| 22:01.12 | nymbia | ckknight: i think there was a forum thread about that not working in some situations |
| 22:01.17 | ckknight | hrm |
| 22:01.23 | kagaro | right now i worked around it by having the sub menu child 'send to palyer' always be disabled |
| 22:01.23 | nymbia | brb |
| 22:01.34 | ckknight | kagaro: remove Send to Player |
| 22:02.43 | kagaro | ck: done, i leave it as it is in svn with the 'send note' menu hidden till i can figure out why disabled is working |
| 22:03.51 | kagaro | back in a few hours time to drive home |
| 22:05.13 | FryGuy | hmm |
| 22:05.35 | FryGuy | how hard would it be for me to make a mod that put carto map thingys for all things related to current quests |
| 22:05.44 | Fisker- | Error * PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/23388' No such revision 23388 |
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| 22:05.48 | Fisker- | :(? |
| 22:05.53 | FryGuy | assuming i had a table for something like questid -> coords |
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| 22:06.18 | Stavmar | ckknight, should cartographer close when i die in BG's? |
| 22:06.35 | ckknight | no |
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| 22:07.29 | Stavmar | might it be a different addon closing it? I press M to reopen the map but i always like it open? |
| 22:07.56 | nevcairiel | i think that default UI behaviour |
| 22:08.03 | nevcairiel | to close all windows when you die |
| 22:08.24 | Stavmar | thank you nevcairiel |
| 22:08.48 | ckknight | hrm, might need to find a way around that |
| 22:09.06 | [dRaCo] | reopen it when you respawn? |
| 22:09.36 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: prevent closure on death |
| 22:09.54 | [dRaCo] | even better |
| 22:09.58 | [dRaCo] | but probably harder |
| 22:10.10 | Stavmar | It automatically closes when leaving BG to Ironforge instead of just automatically just changing to the area that you are in, if that helps to clear anything up? |
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| 22:12.57 | dafire | hmm |
| 22:13.14 | beerke | ow ffs does curse website ever work normallly. |
| 22:13.34 | naenae | Is there a way for Grid to show who the raid leader is? |
| 22:17.24 | CIA-17 | 03dafire * r23389 10TuiRaidTracker/: TuiRaidTracker: creating directory |
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| 22:18.50 | CIA-17 | 03nirek * r23390 10Evpsets/ (Evpsets.lua Evpsets.toc libs/): Evpsets: renaming to Nvp |
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| 22:19.40 | beerke | What would be a good rogue stun mod from ace2 ? |
| 22:19.59 | dafire | timerbars ? try chronometer |
| 22:20.17 | [dRaCo] | I hate stun lock! |
| 22:20.32 | [dRaCo] | so no stun mods for you :þ |
| 22:21.03 | Fisker- | Basically all developers are warlocks |
| 22:21.14 | dafire | or have a wl twink ;) |
| 22:21.38 | [dRaCo] | hm. warlocks are evil, too. |
| 22:21.43 | CIA-17 | 03dafire * r23391 10TuiRaidTracker/ (9 files): TuiRaidTracker: Initial Import |
| 22:21.54 | CIA-17 | 03nirek * r23392 10Evpsets/libs/: Evpsets: poof |
| 22:22.01 | kergoth | tuiraidtracker? that a basic loot / attendance monitor? |
| 22:22.37 | dafire | hm.. it logs joins,leaves,loot,bosskills and zoning into instance and can export that as a string |
| 22:22.49 | kergoth | cool |
| 22:22.56 | dafire | thats my stratholm run: |
| 22:22.57 | dafire | start:1167932221#!#players#1:Nacoya#3:Etrigan#4:Freiarai#5:Xandor#2:Derya#!#loot#5:10213:1:8675:0#1:12800:1:1465:0#5:13375:1:9487:0#3:13400:1:3085:0#4:833:1:3250:0#2:15239:1:3610:0#3:10168:1:3611:0#4:12811:1:3704:0#5:12827:1:3815:0#4:22403:1:4207:0#5:17683:1:4333:0#1:18716:1:4901:0#4:13359:1:5044:0#3:12843:1:7285:0#3:12843:1:7772:0#3:12843:1:8759:0#3:12843:1:9012:0#3:15272:1:9595:0#4:12382:1:9015:0#3:12843:1:9716:0#3:10189:1:6577:0# |
| 22:23.10 | nevcairiel | now write an import plugin for eqDKP |
| 22:23.43 | dafire | i wanted to write my own dkp list but I might do that first ;9 |
| 22:24.32 | CIA-17 | 03nirek * r23393 10Nvp/ (. Nvp.lua Nvp.toc libs/): Nvp: reimport renamed from Evpsets |
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| 22:25.44 | dafire | first i do a simple php page that decodes start:1167932221#!#players#1:Nacoya#3:Etrigan#4:Freiarai#5:Xandor#2:Derya#!#loot#5:10213:1:8675:0#1:12800:1:1465:0#5:13375:1:9487:0#3:13400:1:3085:0#4:833:1:3250:0#2:15239:1:3610:0#3:10168:1:3611:0#4:12811:1:3704:0#5:12827:1:3815:0#4:22403:1:4207:0#5:17683:1:4333:0#1:18716:1:4901:0#4:13359:1:5044:0#3:12843:1:7285:0#3:12843:1:7772:0#3:12843:1:8759:0#3:12843:1:9012:0#3:15272:1:9595:0#4:12382:1 |
| 22:25.45 | dafire | ups |
| 22:25.45 | dafire | sprry |
| 22:26.02 | CIA-17 | 03nirek * r23394 10Nvp/libs/: Nvp: re-setting externals |
| 22:26.29 | Neriak | ckknight: ping |
| 22:26.37 | ckknight | Neriak: pong |
| 22:27.29 | Neriak | ckknight: If I have a core and a module, and I used AcquireNamespace() for the module .. how do I get the module's data from inside the core? |
| 22:27.59 | ckknight | you acquire the namespace again. |
| 22:29.09 | Neriak | something like module.db = self:AcquireDBNamespace("modulename") ? |
| 22:30.06 | Codayus | A good raid tracker addon with eqDKP support would be nice. |
| 22:30.47 | Codayus | The modified CTRT most guilds seem to use is, mmm....fugly. :-) |
| 22:31.38 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r23395 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0: Bugfix. |
| 22:31.44 | Neriak | ckknight: I'm not done with it hehe, so what if I want to reset those module's data? MyAddon:ResetDB('profile') does only work for the core, not for the namespaces .. at least I tried it. |
| 22:32.18 | ckknight | MyAddon:ResetDB('profile', 'namespace') |
| 22:33.59 | Soulless | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/rh00d/rhoodysigbaby.jpg |
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| 22:36.07 | ckknight | added http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips#Easy_multi-dimensional_tables |
| 22:36.09 | ckknight | could be useful |
| 22:36.12 | ckknight | hey vhaarr |
| 22:36.16 | vhaarr | hey |
| 22:36.18 | Neriak | ckknight: lol I only tried MyAddon:ResetDB('namespace', 'profile') hehe. You should update the API documentation ;) |
| 22:36.33 | vhaarr | KaeltenAway: The SVN is *not working*. |
| 22:36.35 | ckknight | Neriak: I thought it was in there... |
| 22:37.33 | vhaarr | KaeltenAway: Are bad SVN mirrors fixed and then re-accepted into the mirror service, or are they banned after a mistake? |
| 22:38.02 | vhaarr | KaeltenAway: This is really, really annoying, I think you should start banning mirrors that fall behind *once*, if you don't already. |
| 22:38.30 | vhaarr | I've been trying to svn update for 2 days now on this computer, and it just stops randomly every fucking time. |
| 22:38.36 | Neriak | ckknight: nope .. -> :ResetDB(["dataType"]) |
| 22:39.23 | ckknight | Neriak: aw |
| 22:39.35 | ckknight | so it's ('namespace', 'profile') that works? |
| 22:39.45 | Neriak | ckknight: no, doesn't work |
| 22:39.59 | ckknight | 'profile', 'namespace', then? |
| 22:40.00 | Neriak | ckknight: will try your suggestion profile, namespace |
| 22:40.32 | SoLoR | vhaarr: 65.98.61.59svn.wowace.com to hosts ;) |
| 22:40.39 | vhaarr | SoLoR: Thanks. |
| 22:40.41 | SoLoR | hm... tabs in between |
| 22:40.54 | vhaarr | Doesn't matter. |
| 22:41.06 | SoLoR | ye i know ;> it just trimed my tabs :( |
| 22:42.34 | vhaarr | Finally. |
| 22:42.40 | Neriak | ckknight: yes it's definitely the latter that works: MyAddon:ResetDB('profile', 'namespace') |
| 22:43.03 | ckknight | Neriak: actually, I never coded it in... |
| 22:43.05 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:43.12 | Neriak | rotfl |
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| 22:43.38 | Neriak | oh .. it could be it did reset my whole DB .. checking |
| 22:43.42 | ckknight | Neriak: :ResetDB('profile') will reset the main and namespaces. |
| 22:43.43 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:44.02 | Tular | ckknight: U around? |
| 22:44.15 | ckknight | Tular: you can see m talking. |
| 22:44.19 | groll | nevcairiel what's up with the webpage? :P is it comming back ever? |
| 22:44.24 | ckknight | kergoth: maybe so. |
| 22:44.25 | vhaarr | kergoth: They are. |
| 22:44.29 | vhaarr | eh? |
| 22:44.33 | ckknight | they're not, vhaarr |
| 22:44.38 | nevcairiel | groll: how should i know? |
| 22:44.44 | vhaarr | I thought they were. |
| 22:44.44 | ckknight | kergoth: copying is, resetting isn't |
| 22:44.51 | groll | just wondering.. or hmm |
| 22:45.05 | Tular | ckknight: LOL? You take care of Cartographer, right? |
| 22:45.14 | groll | oh lol :P nevcairiel it's not ur page i'm talking about :P |
| 22:45.23 | groll | sleepy and sick groll says strange things :P |
| 22:45.24 | ckknight | Tular: if by that you mean I wrote it, then yes. |
| 22:45.29 | Tular | ckknight: It seems like the overlay on the instance maps are messed up |
| 22:45.36 | kergoth | ckknight: ah |
| 22:45.41 | ckknight | Tular: I know. |
| 22:45.47 | Tular | ckknight: ok, cool |
| 22:46.00 | Neriak | ckknight: it's like I thought. Using 'profile', 'namespace' just resets the whole Addon's DB :-/ |
| 22:48.22 | ckknight | gonna make it 'namespace', 'profile' |
| 22:48.36 | ckknight | I think |
| 22:49.37 | kergoth | considering its namespace, profile in registerdefaults, thatd be consistent, eh? |
| 22:49.40 | kergoth | meh |
| 22:49.42 | ckknight | yep. |
| 22:49.49 | Neriak | ckknight: that would be very nice. Indeed. |
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| 22:52.11 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r23396 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: |
| 22:52.11 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests: |
| 22:52.11 | CIA-17 | - added deDE localization |
| 22:52.19 | Neriak | kergoth: though I didn't get RegisterDefaults('namespace', 'profile') to work yet. Maybe it was bugged when I've tried that last time |
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| 22:52.58 | kergoth | Neriak: it works, but you need to run it on the core object, not self. its Cartographer:RegisterDefaults('mynamespace', 'profile', ...), for example |
| 22:52.58 | ckknight | it should work, Neriak |
| 22:53.01 | kergoth | afaik |
| 22:54.16 | Neriak | ckknight: I'll try replacing my 'if not var then var = defaultvalue end' now, then I'll know :) |
| 22:54.33 | ckknight | let me write it and stop pestering me... |
| 22:55.49 | Tain | Ooh I'm going to start using that excuse every day. |
| 22:56.08 | TheKarn | in short, ckknight is hormonal |
| 22:56.17 | Tain | Way better than, "I'm an asshole." |
| 22:56.23 | ckknight | lol, Tain |
| 22:56.38 | ckknight | hrm, this :ResetDB code is fucked for namespaces |
| 22:56.38 | TheKarn | we love you ck |
| 22:56.58 | TheKarn | ckknight:ResetDB('health') |
| 22:57.11 | ckknight | ... |
| 22:58.10 | CIA-17 | 03solor * r23397 10Links/Links.lua: Links: ratingbuster support |
| 22:58.12 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r23398 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua: |
| 22:58.12 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Stats: |
| 22:58.12 | CIA-17 | - added deDE localization |
| 22:59.43 | CIA-17 | 03zealotonastick * r23399 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: .Glory2.0 - small fix to correct battleground holiday weekends for 2007. |
| 22:59.58 | Tornhoof | [draco], you can hide as much totems as you like but just the highest popup buttons, basically to disallow holes in the menus |
| 23:00.05 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r23400 10Cartographer_Trainers/addon.lua: |
| 23:00.05 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Trainers |
| 23:00.05 | CIA-17 | - added deDE localization |
| 23:00.22 | [dRaCo] | so it's more like a feature ;) |
| 23:00.25 | *** join/#wowace [Liquidor] (n=chatzill@port227.ds1-sg.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 23:00.56 | Tornhoof | yes |
| 23:01.03 | Tornhoof | it keeps the code sane |
| 23:01.22 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r23401 10Cartographer_Vendors/addon.lua: |
| 23:01.22 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Vendors |
| 23:01.22 | CIA-17 | - added deDE localization |
| 23:01.39 | [Liquidor] | How do I convert/format miliseconds into xx minutes and xx seconds? |
| 23:01.54 | TheKarn | [Liquidor], with maths |
| 23:02.05 | [dRaCo] | ms % 1000, ms / 1000 |
| 23:02.08 | KarlThePagan | Gratuity |
| 23:02.17 | KarlThePagan | or math |
| 23:02.26 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r23402 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: |
| 23:02.26 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Noteshare |
| 23:02.27 | CIA-17 | - updated deDE localization |
| 23:03.07 | Tornhoof | btw draco next step is probably some code to add bigwigs support, but since i dunno when i'll raid again, it's kinda hard to test ;) |
| 23:03.24 | [dRaCo] | hm, not using bigwigs, sorry |
| 23:03.34 | [dRaCo] | and my guild is pretty lazy atm :( |
| 23:03.54 | TheKarn | most guilds will be lazy raiding till lvl 70 |
| 23:04.08 | [dRaCo] | only raiding I've done for like 1 month is AV ;) |
| 23:04.37 | Codayus | My guild is still trying to run raids, but we're getting...mixed results. |
| 23:04.48 | Tornhoof | we battled with like 38 ppl through halfway naxx tonight, boring |
| 23:04.56 | Arrowmaster | we havent raided since october =( |
| 23:05.00 | TheKarn | i still ahvent been to naxx |
| 23:05.01 | TheKarn | =( |
| 23:05.10 | TheKarn | managed to get nef down a number of times |
| 23:05.10 | Codayus | Attendance is poor enough we're having to bring alts or friends from outside the guild just to get the numbers to run BWL together. Bleh. |
| 23:05.13 | TheKarn | and huhu :) |
| 23:05.44 | Codayus | (It's remarkable how hard razor is if you discover that nobody in the raid can actually sucessfully kite a dragonkin to save their life. oO) |
| 23:06.06 | Arrowmaster | we had nef on farm for a long time but never got far into AQ40 and never started naxx |
| 23:06.17 | [dRaCo] | Tornhoof: but I'll be glad to help you with any other testing that does not involve raiding |
| 23:07.41 | Tain | Codayus Razorgore is my single most hated encounter on a personal level. |
| 23:07.58 | Codayus | Tain: I'd have to agree, come to think of it. Especially since 2.0. |
| 23:08.05 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r23403 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua: |
| 23:08.06 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Stats: |
| 23:08.06 | CIA-17 | - updated deDE localization |
| 23:08.14 | CIA-17 | 03pastamancer * r23404 10Grid/GridFrame.lua: Grid: throw an error if anything tries to set attribute "type1" to nil |
| 23:08.41 | Tain | I've been through most of AQ40 and some Naxx and I still despise Razorgore. |
| 23:09.06 | Arrowmaster | i think all our hunters are angry they let all the hunter trinkets from razorgore get denched |
| 23:09.07 | TheKarn | i used to love razorgore |
| 23:09.11 | Codayus | It's just an annoying fight, and one silly hunter dieing can start this chain of loose mobs pwning people one by one. The other BWL fights are ten times better. |
| 23:09.29 | TheKarn | we used the two tank kiting |
| 23:09.45 | Codayus | TheKarn: Until they nerfed demo shout? |
| 23:09.51 | Tain | I never got my guild to try not kiting and just killing shit. We were pretty well geared. |
| 23:09.58 | TheKarn | not tried it since |
| 23:10.17 | vhaarr | We use one DPS warrior to kite the dragons and kill the rest. |
| 23:10.21 | [dRaCo] | killing the mages is easy, some orcs is easy, too |
| 23:10.29 | vhaarr | or used, we haven't done BWL in months |
| 23:10.32 | Arrowmaster | i think last time we actually did razorgore we were kiting dragons and killing the rest |
| 23:10.34 | [dRaCo] | but the dragonkins are hard to take down |
| 23:10.52 | Codayus | Tain: We're trying the kill-all-but-dragons strat now that demo shout has been nerfed. We've got the gear to do it, but our hunters (or the hunters who can be bothered to show up with the xpac being released so soon) all are....special people. |
| 23:11.01 | Tain | heh heh |
| 23:11.15 | Tain | I was lucky in that one of friends was a hunter and was on top of his game. |
| 23:11.20 | Arrowmaster | we actually had some mages blink kiting dragons once |
| 23:11.35 | zac | hibernate+fear! |
| 23:11.41 | Tain | He would get so mad at the other kiters and just take their stuff and kite it all himself. |
| 23:11.44 | Wogroipl | the first time we killed Razorgore was with the kill-all-but-dragons strat |
| 23:11.50 | Saroz | pastamancer, how's the healing lib going |
| 23:12.07 | Wogroipl | easier than try to kite everything imo |
| 23:12.10 | pastamancer | Saroz: http://grid.13th-floor.org/ for changelog |
| 23:12.15 | Codayus | I just wish the fight would go away. We don't even need any loot off him. |
| 23:12.16 | Matrix110 | Best strat when nobody had the dps to kill all but Dragons was the kill mages kite rest! |
| 23:12.22 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r23405 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotesLoot.lua: |
| 23:12.22 | CIA-17 | Cartographer: |
| 23:12.22 | CIA-17 | - InstanceNotesLoot.lua, updated deDE localization |
| 23:12.30 | pastamancer | I'll probably be making it more generic so Joshborke can use it too |
| 23:12.59 | Tain | I dislike BWL in general, too many "gimmick" fights. |
| 23:13.09 | Tain | However! I like the idea of having boss powers change. |
| 23:13.16 | Codayus | Tain: Well...yeah, there's something to that. But I like most of the gimmicks. :-) |
| 23:13.33 | [dRaCo] | just fight lashlayer all the time :þ |
| 23:13.39 | Matrix110 | I like Naxx besides pre 2.0 Maexxna and 2.0 Instructor |
| 23:13.44 | packetlss | doesnt feel like you're really conquering anything when you LoS half of the fights |
| 23:13.45 | Arrowmaster | gimmicks are fun, just not when theres too many things that can go wrong with the gimmick to fuck things up |
| 23:14.18 | Saroz | pastamancer, btw, how do you handle players joining and leaving during combat? |
| 23:14.19 | Tain | Of course I know it's hard to design encounters to be both challenging and not stupidly annoying. |
| 23:14.23 | Codayus | Firemaw is too long...you master the gimmic, get the pattern down, and then realize he's down to like, 80% health. Zzzz. And Chrommie is an annoying dispell fest... |
| 23:14.32 | pastamancer | Saroz: in grid? |
| 23:14.38 | Saroz | yes |
| 23:14.54 | Arrowmaster | i love firemaw when one of the druids decides to just heal me the entire fight |
| 23:15.02 | pastamancer | I let the SecureRaidHeader deal with it and then delay the frame resize until ooc |
| 23:15.08 | Arrowmaster | ill get like a stack of debuffs up to 15+ |
| 23:15.21 | Saroz | hrrrm |
| 23:15.33 | Saroz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:15.54 | beerke | razorgore i would advice 2 warriors kiting dragons over platform tbh |
| 23:15.56 | Codayus | Arrowmaster: Hmm, that might make it fun...I play MT healer, so basically, I get my position right, then make sure to time my heals to cover shadowflames, and then...just...heal...forever. So boring. :-( |
| 23:16.14 | beerke | if properly done thye hardly need any heal |
| 23:16.47 | pastamancer | Saroz: that is the changelog |
| 23:16.51 | Matrix110 | Codayus yes Firemaw is pretty annoying sometimes i need to find the screenshot then you see what is really annoying |
| 23:16.55 | Saroz | for healcomm? |
| 23:16.57 | Arrowmaster | having a druid just healing me and allowing me to eat a ton of debuffs makes it fun because i just stand there and dps |
| 23:17.12 | pastamancer | Saroz: for my enire svn repository including healcomm and utf8 |
| 23:17.39 | Matrix110 | http://home.arcor.de/matrix110/flamebuffet.jpg |
| 23:17.46 | pastamancer | fyi, here's grid handling units leaving/joining during combat http://ace.pastey.net/4524 |
| 23:18.14 | Codayus | Matrix110: ....33(!) debuffs?! |
| 23:18.22 | Matrix110 | it went to 37:P |
| 23:18.25 | Codayus | ...how is that even possible? |
| 23:18.42 | Codayus | ....please tell me he wasn't the MT... |
| 23:18.43 | Matrix110 | its like 0.01% chance i think:P |
| 23:18.46 | Matrix110 | he was |
| 23:18.52 | Codayus | ...zomg, lern2FR? oO |
| 23:18.59 | Matrix110 | he had 302FR:P |
| 23:19.07 | Codayus | Wow |
| 23:19.09 | Matrix110 | check the screenshot |
| 23:19.14 | Codayus | I see. |
| 23:19.15 | Codayus | Umm. |
| 23:19.28 | Codayus | That's awesome. |
| 23:19.39 | Codayus | Did he live? |
| 23:19.46 | Matrix110 | until Firemaw died |
| 23:20.05 | pastamancer | Saroz: oh, and http://ace.pastey.net/4525 is the RegisterEvent calls |
| 23:20.07 | Codayus | Heh, your healers must have been on the ball. |
| 23:20.07 | Matrix110 | was quite funny that Firemaw^^ |
| 23:20.51 | *** join/#wowace Overkill (n=Overkill@ny-chicagostreet-cad1-bg1-69-160-29-32.bflony.adelphia.net) |
| 23:20.51 | Saroz | ty pastamancer |
| 23:20.51 | pastamancer | Saroz: I cheat and have a bunch of custom events |
| 23:20.57 | *** join/#wowace NinjaChimp (n=chemp@host86-135-49-123.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:21.01 | Mikma | so, anyone has extremely simple page-swap code around? :P |
| 23:21.42 | Mikma | i have tried to test my code for 2 days and i have no idea how it's done |
| 23:21.57 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r23406 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/Bars.lua: FuBar_WarlockTimerFu: Improved shift click time |
| 23:23.06 | Saroz | pastamancer, I noticed :p |
| 23:23.34 | pastamancer | Saroz: that's all in GridCore.lua, pending the creation of Roster-2.2 |
| 23:25.25 | Ordog | wow is still discing me on worldspawn -.- |
| 23:25.25 | Matrix110 | finally that Background DLer wants to DL something |
| 23:25.36 | Matrix110 | can get the normal torrent now<3 |
| 23:26.14 | Saroz | pastamancer, rename healcomm to halosync, it sounds cooler tbh |
| 23:26.19 | Saroz | \o/ |
| 23:26.22 | Overkill | hey i was looking at the code for small toro snowblower in south cheektowaga. has not been used since |
| 23:26.22 | Overkill | 2004. working condition unknown. takes oil and gas mix and has |
| 23:26.22 | Overkill | electric start. |
| 23:26.32 | Overkill | opps wrong paste :P |
| 23:27.11 | Overkill | i was looking at the code for Chronometer to try to fix shadow weaving |
| 23:27.35 | pastamancer | Saroz: it won't be heal-specific if I make the changes Joshborke needs. |
| 23:27.52 | Overkill | it doesn't work because there is no chat message after its already aplied 5 times |
| 23:28.25 | Overkill | anyone know of another way to deterime if it gets re-applied |
| 23:28.53 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle-Home (n=Guillaum@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:29.07 | JoshBork1 | pastamancer: i can just keep using mine :-) |
| 23:29.27 | Adirelle-Home | damn, GloryLib is a pain in the ass to debug :s |
| 23:29.29 | pastamancer | JoshBork1: :) |
| 23:30.00 | pastamancer | JoshBork1: I'm still at work, so I haven't gotten a chance to play with channeled spells |
| 23:30.39 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r23407 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: |
| 23:30.39 | CIA-17 | .AceDB-2.0: |
| 23:30.39 | CIA-17 | - :ResetDB(['kind']) is now :ResetDB(['kind']) or ('namespace' [, 'kind']) |
| 23:30.39 | CIA-17 | - Bugfixing in the :ResetDB method |
| 23:30.41 | Adirelle-Home | [Ammo] i don't have the heart to dig into your so pretty oRA2 code, I think my guild promote module will go in another addon :) |
| 23:31.01 | ckknight | Neriak: ^--- |
| 23:31.27 | Adirelle-Home | hey, a-stray-cat, I was looking for you |
| 23:31.41 | Saroz | JoshBork1, common protocol ftw |
| 23:32.05 | JoshBork1 | i agree :-) |
| 23:32.12 | Saroz | don't go CTRA on us |
| 23:32.35 | TheKarn | what is with the small o? is that because otravi started them? |
| 23:32.47 | Saroz | haste is otravi, last I heard |
| 23:32.54 | TheKarn | ah that makes sense |
| 23:33.07 | TheKarn | i wondered why haste had taken over most of otravi's mods |
| 23:33.07 | JoshBork1 | Saroz: as long as no one pressures me into using ace :-P |
| 23:33.12 | pastamancer | goddamnit, why doesn't WebDAV have ACLs yet?! |
| 23:33.14 | JoshBork1 | lol The |
| 23:33.15 | Saroz | EMBED! |
| 23:33.26 | Saroz | or die! |
| 23:33.30 | JoshBork1 | i get in bed every night.... |
| 23:33.40 | KarlThePagan | pastamancer, svn locking? |
| 23:33.43 | TheKarn | JoshBork1, most people shorten TheKarn to Karn. not had The before... :P |
| 23:33.47 | KarlThePagan | permissions etc? |
| 23:33.47 | JoshBork1 | ... |
| 23:33.54 | pastamancer | KarlThePagan: CalDAV |
| 23:33.54 | JoshBork1 | don't blame me, it's my clients fault |
| 23:33.56 | pastamancer | KarlThePagan: for work |
| 23:33.56 | TheKarn | haha |
| 23:33.57 | KarlThePagan | ic |
| 23:33.58 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 23:34.05 | TheKarn | because you're just too lazy to type the extra 4 keys :P |
| 23:34.28 | JoshBork1 | i only typed the first 2 :-P |
| 23:34.41 | Tain | People already eliminate entire portions of their keyboard as it is, why are 4 keys hard to believe? |
| 23:34.51 | TheKarn | lol ok |
| 23:34.53 | JoshBork1 | yea! i have no number pad! |
| 23:35.08 | vhaarr | pastamancer: But WebDAV is run on HTTP, you already have ACL capabilities. |
| 23:35.16 | JoshBork1 | can't live without my arrow keys though |
| 23:35.33 | pastamancer | vhaarr: kinda |
| 23:35.39 | Tain | Shift key? Who needs it! Punctuation keys? Useless! |
| 23:35.40 | TheKarn | it's strange how so many people can touchtype due to chat programs like this but cannot be bothered to type words in full |
| 23:35.48 | TheKarn | it takes hardly any more effort |
| 23:36.17 | pastamancer | vhaarr: iirc, I can't query the owner/group of a file created by dav because that info just isn't stored |
| 23:37.04 | pastamancer | TheKarn: lol wut? |
| 23:37.14 | TheKarn | i'm talking crap again |
| 23:37.17 | pastamancer | :p |
| 23:37.40 | vhaarr | pastamancer: I remember I worked on some document revision control system across WDAV a long time ago, and we could do that. |
| 23:38.02 | vhaarr | pastamancer: The client had no shell extensions, and the documents showed up with author and owner in the properties box. |
| 23:38.10 | pastamancer | vhaarr: what was the back-end? |
| 23:38.16 | Overkill | noone has any ideas on the shadow vulnerability problem? |
| 23:38.17 | vhaarr | pastamancer: We wrote it. |
| 23:38.31 | pastamancer | vhaarr: that makes it much easier :p |
| 23:38.43 | pastamancer | s/easier/easier to get what you want/ |
| 23:39.34 | vhaarr | well, obviously, but you said WebDAV couldn't do it |
| 23:39.36 | vhaarr | I'm saying it can |
| 23:40.09 | vhaarr | althought I don't remember much of it :P |
| 23:40.26 | pastamancer | I guess it's more mod_dav that's to blame |
| 23:41.10 | vhaarr | yeah probably, we wrote the whole dav engine |
| 23:41.27 | pastamancer | I don't have that luxury |
| 23:41.40 | vhaarr | haha |
| 23:41.43 | vhaarr | "luxury" |
| 23:41.49 | pastamancer | ;) |
| 23:41.55 | vhaarr | pastamancer: Ever tried implementing a "web" standard? |
| 23:42.13 | vhaarr | It is a lot of things, but it's not a luxury :P |
| 23:42.13 | pastamancer | thankfully no |
| 23:42.52 | vhaarr | it's fun though |
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| 23:44.21 | pastamancer | validating ANSI 835 and 837 files for my last job probably comes close |
| 23:46.03 | CIA-17 | 03dafire * r23408 10TuiRaidTracker/ (export.lua misc/ misc/tuiraidtracker.php): TuiRaidTracker: simple php script that decodes the exported string and small fix in the encode function |
| 23:46.05 | pastamancer | I had the "luxury" of writing our claims aggregator that did NSF2 to ANSI X12 835 (004010X091A1) claim conversion |
| 23:46.21 | pastamancer | and than handled un-batching the remittance files |
| 23:46.43 | Neriak | ckknight: thanks a ton, I really appreciate that :) On the other side I tried Addon:RegisterDefaults('namespace','profiles'). It doesn't create the defaults for my modules.. How does the RegisterDefaults() work technically, when does it create them? |
| 23:46.56 | ckknight | yes, it should. |
| 23:47.07 | ckknight | make sure you do it first, before acquiring |
| 23:47.14 | Neriak | ckknight: oh! |
| 23:47.25 | Neriak | ckknight: that must be the culprit .. |
| 23:47.34 | Adirelle-Home | ckknight : i'm about to think that I've successfully localized GloryLib in french... |
| 23:48.11 | Tain | Merci! |
| 23:48.11 | Adirelle-Home | and btw, sorrentimers BG bar are working :) |
| 23:48.45 | Adirelle-Home | I'll do some more testing and I'll commit in my branch |
| 23:48.45 | JoshBork1 | bocu! |
| 23:49.06 | Tain | I don't even speak French and that's painful for ME to read, JoshBork! |
| 23:49.16 | JoshBork1 | lol tain, me neither! |
| 23:49.26 | Adirelle-Home | JoshBork1: that doesn't sound like "beaucoup"... |
| 23:49.33 | JoshBork1 | rofl |
| 23:49.49 | [dRaCo] | it does in german ;þ |
| 23:49.53 | Adirelle-Home | but it can be phonetically translated to "nice ass" |
| 23:50.03 | Tain | J'ai un crayon grande. |
| 23:50.20 | Adirelle-Home | lol... stop playing with babelfish ^^ |
| 23:50.24 | JoshBork1 | lol |
| 23:50.36 | TheKarn | purl bablefish J'ai un crayon grande. |
| 23:50.38 | Tain | Hey that's not bablefish, I remember that from my high school French classes. |
| 23:50.49 | Tain | ~x en fr I love you. |
| 23:50.53 | ckknight | bocu! |
| 23:51.02 | Adirelle-Home | Should be "J'ai un grand crayon" |
| 23:51.03 | TheKarn | ~x fr en J'ai un crayon grande. |
| 23:51.17 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric|home (n=Jason@adsl-76-214-145-161.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:51.19 | JoshBork1 | who was it that was righting the new equip-compare? |
| 23:51.23 | JoshBork1 | was it tain or thrae... |
| 23:51.29 | TheKarn | ~x en de i love the cock |
| 23:51.33 | Tain | Uh.. I was taught that the adjective goes after the noun. |
| 23:51.44 | Wogroipl | haha |
| 23:51.46 | TheKarn | whats the betting thats a different type of cock |
| 23:52.01 | Adirelle-Home | Tain : not always |
| 23:52.06 | [dRaCo] | there definitly is :þ |
| 23:52.08 | Wogroipl | tain: there are exceptions |
| 23:52.09 | TheKarn | ~x en fr i have a large pencil |
| 23:52.10 | Tain | I fail at French. :( |
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| 23:52.40 | Tain | What the hell, my teacher never told us there were exceptions. |
| 23:52.46 | Adirelle-Home | Tain : I can't even tell you what the rule for putting the adjective before or after... |
| 23:53.03 | Tain | Damn you Miss Dellaventura! |
| 23:53.10 | Wogroipl | beau bon jolie |
| 23:53.32 | Wogroipl | it's not a rule afaik |
| 23:53.34 | Tain | That was her name too, I remember becuase she was a large woman and we used to call her Miss Della "The Body" Ventura |
| 23:53.48 | *** join/#wowace Prophyy (n=prophy@cpe-66-65-84-109.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:53.55 | Wogroipl | just a number of exceptions |
| 23:54.04 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r23409 10Cartographer_Herbalism/ (Cartographer_Herbalism.toc addon.lua): |
| 23:54.04 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Herbalism: |
| 23:54.04 | CIA-17 | - Cartographer_Herbalism.lua: added "Module Description" to list of localizable strings |
| 23:54.04 | CIA-17 | - Cartographer_Herbalism.toc: added Notes-deDE string |
| 23:54.06 | Adirelle-Home | well, maybe descriptives adjectives goes before (grand, petit too) |
| 23:54.27 | Tain | J'ai faim. |
| 23:54.46 | Wogroipl | nouveau, mauvais |
| 23:54.50 | ckknight | I like adjectives that come before |
| 23:54.58 | ckknight | makes sexual innuendoes more fun |
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| 23:55.23 | ckknight | hey MentalPower|Code |
| 23:56.48 | Neriak | ckknight: Could it be, it doesn't create the defaults physically until you change a value? All modules are showing me the default values when I look at the command options, but I can't see them in the saved variables. |
| 23:57.13 | ckknight | oh, defaults are wiped from SVs |
| 23:57.17 | ckknight | cause they're unneeded |
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| 23:57.23 | Adirelle-Home | putting my IRC window over my WoW doesn't seem a good idea :s |
| 23:57.23 | ckknight | so they'll exist ingame |
| 23:57.25 | ckknight | but not in the SV |
| 23:57.32 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r23410 10Cartographer_Hotspot/ (Cartographer_Hotspot.lua Cartographer_Hotspot.toc): |
| 23:57.32 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Hotspot: |
| 23:57.32 | CIA-17 | - Cartographer_Hotspot.lua: added "Module description" to list of localizable strings |
| 23:57.32 | CIA-17 | - Cartographer_Hotspot.toc: added Notes-deDE |
| 23:57.39 | Overkill | if parser lib doesn't detect the shadow vulnerability after its already applied 5 times is there a way to know its reapplied other then just detect if everytime you cast a shadow spell? |
| 23:57.41 | Neriak | ckknight: lol, brilliant. that's what I didn't know. Now I'm happy hehe |
| 23:58.10 | KarlThePagan | Overkill, not all priests take 5/5 weaving |
| 23:58.26 | KarlThePagan | you can get the buff count |
| 23:58.39 | KarlThePagan | but that's not a parser lib function |
| 23:58.53 | Overkill | but you can't tell the last time it was applied |
| 23:59.08 | Overkill | (trying to fix chrono and buff diration) |
| 23:59.11 | *** join/#wowace Herio (n=Kevin@dsl027-181-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 23:59.23 | Overkill | should fix my spelling while i am at it |
