irclog2html for #wowace on 20070110

`00:00.05`	`Makk`	`framename`
`00:00.06`	`ravagernl`	`cool`
`00:00.36`	`Industrial`	`ravagernl: ceck the toc to see the author?`
`00:00.40`	`Industrial`	`check*`
`00:00.46`	`ravagernl`	`yeah`
`00:00.53`	`kergoth`	`heh..`
`00:00.54`	`kergoth`	`/media/crydee/Games/tbc/Interface/AddOns$ ls\|grep -E '(BigWigs\|FuBar\|Cartographer\|ClosetGnome)'\|wc -l`
`00:00.57`	`kergoth`	`47`
`00:01.04`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`00:01.06`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`00:01.16`	`*** join/#wowace ASleep (n=ASleep@c-66-176-109-192.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)`
`00:01.18`	`deltron`	`kergoth: you gonna try that new world boss with sanc tonight?`
`00:01.23`	`deltron`	`kergoth: or is it mod updating time? :P`
`00:01.25`	`Barbanus`	`if blizzard was smart they would of opened up pve => pvp transfers for like the last 2 weeks only, since gear doesnt matter now, iw ould allow them to get a crap load of transfer money before the expansion, and there would be no complaints about "ooo but pve leveling was ezmode!"`
`00:01.42`	`kergoth`	`deltron: is sanc gonna attempt it? i'm in if so`
`00:01.54`	`deltron`	`kerg: yeah, kaine's talking about doing it`
`00:02.35`	`*** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=chatzill@0x573374dc.svgnxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)`
`00:02.36`	`kergoth`	`cool`
`00:03.42`	`Industrial`	`http://xs511.xs.to/xs511/07023/untitleasdfasdfd.PNG`
`00:03.43`	`*** join/#wowace jeffreywt (n=omgoose@r75-110-56-175.gvllcmtc01.gnvlnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net)`
`00:03.46`	`Industrial`	`the dotted ones are my own`
`00:03.46`	`jeffreywt`	`woop`
`00:04.36`	`Industrial`	`id still like a bar with buff spell and castingbar timers but i havent found any i really like`
`00:05.03`	`*** join/#wowace [1]Miles (i=Miles@174-228.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net)`
`00:05.06`	`Simple`	`hrm, is there an agunitframes watchdog tag that colors class by color in a group? I checked the wiki, if there is one I don't think it's listed (or maybe I'm just blind)`
`00:07.32`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`need someone borked the gridstatushiots.. AceLocale(GridStatusHots): Translation "My HoT spell" does not exist.`
`00:07.45`	`Barbanus`	`Industrial, "your own"?`
`00:07.57`	`ravagernl`	`oh god, patch day has begun`
`00:08.01`	`Barbanus`	`and you dont share?!?`
`00:08.22`	`Industrial`	`as in i made it'`
`00:08.27`	`ravagernl`	`industrial even has his own library :P`
`00:08.29`	`Industrial`	`no. nah nah :P`
`00:08.36`	`Thorgard`	`Tuller, hilfe, why isn't the key-bindings working? :o`
`00:08.41`	`Barbanus`	`pfft, hogger!`
`00:08.49`	`Barbanus`	`I'm gonna raid you with 40 level 1s next time I see you`
`00:09.06`	`Industrial`	`you wouldnt like it anyway`
`00:09.07`	`Industrial`	`p`
`00:09.08`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`00:09.14`	`Tuller`	`Thorgard: i'm working on a fix`
`00:09.18`	`Barbanus`	`screen shot or it didnt happen!`
`00:09.19`	`*** join/#wowace steev (n=steev@gentoo/developer/steev)`
`00:09.37`	`Tuller`	`Thorgard: doing bindings as attributes seems to hate me`
`00:09.48`	ag`_	`if you keep you addons private, you won't get people demanding you to fix it :P`
`00:09.51`	`Barbanus`	`I'm actually just curious, are they totally written by you, or just rewrites of existing stuff?`
`00:09.54`	`Industrial`	`http://xs511.xs.to/xs511/07023/WoWScrnShot_010907_222428.jpg`
`00:09.57`	`Thorgard`	`Tuller, d'oh.`
`00:10.05`	`Industrial`	`Barbanus: totally written by me`
`00:10.16`	`Barbanus`	`Cool :)`
`00:10.16`	`Goeb`	`o. Arrays that are stored as saved variables are now saved using lua's array initializer syntax for optimal memory usage and performance on load.`
`00:10.22`	`Goeb`	`yay?`
`00:10.35`	`Industrial`	`ofcource i started out by disecting other addons :)`
`00:10.45`	`Barbanus`	`of course`
`00:11.08`	`Industrial`	`so the chat addon is essentially ChatScroll by Rowne`
`00:11.30`	`Barbanus`	`is the quest log yours also?`
`00:11.45`	`Industrial`	`no thats FuBar_Quests`
`00:12.02`	`Industrial`	`havent found a better quest addon :P`
`00:12.02`	`Barbanus`	`Hmmm, I need to install that, and get rid of monkeyquest`
`00:12.03`	`*** join/#wowace syeren (n=syeren@host86-144-51-175.range86-144.btcentralplus.com)`
`00:12.08`	`Barbanus`	`looks like it has everything I want :P`
`00:12.10`	`Tular`	`do you guys have anything like WIM?`
`00:12.19`	`Industrial`	`no :(`
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`00:12.28`	`Barbanus`	`WIM?`
`00:12.29`	`Industrial`	`wobin made a sort of tabbed interface for the chat once`
`00:12.33`	`Barbanus`	`not familar`
`00:12.35`	`Industrial`	`its on the svn, lost the name`
`00:12.52`	`Industrial`	`sec`
`00:12.53`	`Hjalte`	`Tular: The best alternative i found, was a whisper-storing addon like heyfu and then assister to have the whispers shown in the middle of the screen when received`
`00:12.54`	`*** join/#wowace [2]Miles (i=Miles@174-228.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net)`
`00:13.22`	`Barbanus`	`Unless Prat now does this, I would love to get a mod that allows me to tabbify private chat channels, and have them glow when I get a new message`
`00:13.33`	`Feldia`	`what's the slash command to give someone assist`
`00:13.42`	`Barbanus`	`so I can move my healer channel to another tab, and ignore it unless it glows`
`00:13.46`	`ravagernl`	`industrial: look what im working on :P http://ace.pastey.net/4826`
`00:14.03`	`ravagernl`	`party 1 and 3 on the left side, party 2 and 4 on the right`
`00:14.09`	`ravagernl`	`minimap in the center`
`00:14.12`	`Barbanus`	`last I tested, the glowing only works for private messages :(`
`00:14.31`	`Industrial`	`Tular: theres is also FuBar_HeyFu`
`00:15.23`	`Industrial`	`pastey.net times out :\`
`00:16.23`	`ravagernl`	`AHMAHGAWD, patch day XD`
`00:16.41`	`steev`	`yes, yes it is`
`00:16.58`	`Hjalte`	`I don't understand why this patch makes all the addon sites go slow.. It's just a minor one, in terms of addons, or?`
`00:17.02`	`steev`	`and i didn't read the patch notes till i got home, but it explains why my rogue was sucking so much more than usual today`
`00:17.18`	`steev`	`Hjalte: version number change == addons disabled`
`00:17.30`	`Hjalte`	`steev: Disabled or just out of date?`
`00:17.35`	`steev`	`out of date`
`00:17.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`because there's no "enable out of date addons" checkbox :P`
`00:17.41`	ag`_	`which means disabled`
`00:17.45`	`Hjalte`	`Ah..`
`00:17.50`	ag`_	`but you can just check that box`
`00:17.56`	`steev`	`and most work fine`
`00:18.03`	`steev`	`avbars is the only one i've found that doesn't`
`00:18.03`	ag`_	`2.0.1 -> 2.0.3 should break no addons actually`
`00:18.04`	ag`_	`I think`
`00:18.06`	`*** join/#wowace slack0ne (n=slack0ne@p146-dialup.snap.net.nz)`
`00:18.07`	`ravagernl`	`simple: [raidcolor]`
`00:18.08`	ag`_	`hm? ok`
`00:18.16`	`KarlThePagan`	`steev, Capping > Avbars imo`
`00:18.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`More than likely what happens is that people only update their addons on patch days`
`00:18.28`	`steev`	`KarlThePagan: yeah, well, i can't download that right now can i!`
`00:18.30`	`steev`	`:-P`
`00:18.35`	`KarlThePagan`	`orly?`
`00:18.43`	`Wogroipl`	ag`_: is it possible to make a multi-line macro in Click2Cast? Or is there another way to go about that?
`00:18.53`	`KarlThePagan`	`http://wowace.com/files/Capping/Capping.zip`
`00:18.54`	`steev`	`wowace is... slow currently`
`00:18.56`	`*** join/#wowace Miles\|zzz (i=Miles@174-228.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net)`
`00:18.58`	`cynyr`	`steev: why was your rogue sucking?`
`00:19.11`	`Industrial`	`everyone should just use rss instead of the site - but a format way lighter then xml, and the download server should allow one file download per file per ip adress per 30 mins :D`
`00:19.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`wowace.com/files is a touch slow, but its up and functional`
`00:19.21`	`steev`	`cynyr: talents refunded`
`00:19.22`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea works fine for me`
`00:19.24`	`Industrial`	`imho. :P`
`00:19.30`	`steev`	`cynyr: good to see you here :)`
`00:19.35`	`cynyr`	`steev: ohh forgot to spend them`
`00:19.38`	`KarlThePagan`	`a zero-talent rogue will still own most priests ;)`
`00:19.48`	`cynyr`	`steev: aren't you usually on #gentoo-laptop>`
`00:19.49`	`steev`	`if only i was attacking priests :)`
`00:19.51`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Industrial, i'd love an rss/atom feed.`
`00:19.56`	`KarlThePagan`	`hehe`
`00:20.05`	`ravagernl`	`anyway, industrial, im trying to recreate this letterbox style without DART http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showUI.pl?msgnum=1036`
`00:20.07`	`steev`	`cynyr: yes, yes i am, along with -dev, -bugs, -hardened, -ppc, -efika`
`00:20.23`	`steev`	`-desktop, a few others`
`00:20.25`	`cynyr`	`steev: i wish i had an efka to play with, :)`
`00:20.38`	`Industrial`	`ravagernl: heh thats gunna take a while to get right`
`00:20.45`	`steev`	`msg me a username/password`
`00:21.09`	`Industrial`	`brb gunna grind some more american soldiers into my YURI GRINDER muhahahahaha`
`00:21.14`	`steev`	`just realize - its 400mhz with 128mb ram - its not blazing any trails :)`
`00:21.18`	`Industrial`	`(red alert 2)`
`00:21.19`	`ravagernl`	`industrial, have a frame which i set the anchors to the ui parent, backdrop texture, map texture, and left and right "swirls"`
`00:21.39`	`ravagernl`	`Just need to get the partyframe backgrounds sorted`
`00:21.50`	`*** join/#wowace break19 (i=break19@adsl-065-013-119-154.sip.mob.bellsouth.net)`
`00:22.02`	`Miles`	`gg adsl... atm channel breaks every 5 minutes`
`00:22.12`	`ravagernl`	`OMG industrial plays yuris revenge!!!`
`00:22.32`	`Industrial`	`what? its fun`
`00:22.37`	`ravagernl`	`I know :P`
`00:22.39`	`steev`	`wowace feels like its hosted on my efika currently :(`
`00:22.41`	`cynyr`	`steev: i know, but with a hardware mpeg encoder/tv card it would make a great mythTV box`
`00:22.50`	`ravagernl`	`ive been a mod coder for it like 2 years or so`
`00:22.50`	`kergoth`	`http://covenant.kergoth.com/images/wow_79.JPG is my current layout.. still not optimal, but getting there`
`00:22.52`	`steev`	`cynyr: aye, it would`
`00:22.57`	`steev`	`currently mine is headless`
`00:22.57`	`*** join/#wowace sirusnight (n=kek@c211-30-6-158.artrmn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au)`
`00:22.57`	`Industrial`	`ic`
`00:23.00`	`Industrial`	`i suck at it tho`
`00:23.05`	`kergoth`	`heh, yuri's revenge was the red alert 2 expansion?`
`00:23.09`	`steev`	`cynyr: what server do you play on?`
`00:23.10`	`ravagernl`	`ive helped developing http://www.cannis.net/cannisrules/`
`00:23.22`	`Industrial`	`but its just fun to take the yuri soldiers and cloning vats and boom the shit out of an enemy with 300 footsoldiers`
`00:23.24`	`cynyr`	`steev: detheroc Alliance`
`00:23.28`	`kergoth`	`i miss command & conquer and ra`
`00:23.29`	`Roguebait`	`Is there a way to display the default Blizzard casting bar if you using ag_unitframes? The latest version hides it and there doesn't seem to be an option to enable it`
`00:23.32`	`steev`	`ahh`
`00:23.38`	`kergoth`	`used to do these 8 hour long campaigns against a friend of mine`
`00:23.40`	`steev`	`im on hellscream, eitrigg, and drakka`
`00:23.42`	`steev`	`er, draka`
`00:23.46`	`steev`	`however its spelled`
`00:24.20`	`ravagernl`	`try out that cannisrules, it has a beyond revenge option, cant play yr without it anymore`
`00:24.24`	`*** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=najklord@83.145.59.23)`
`00:24.33`	`ravagernl`	`it would be like wow without onebag :P`
`00:24.42`	ag`_	`ravagernl: I'd take a look at it when you're done, it looks kinda cool :P Though big maybe`
`00:24.59`	`cynyr`	`steev: ahh, yea.. i've thought about moving but i've got a year into this dwarf rogue, and i'm in a raiding guild so be damned if i'm gonna move`
`00:25.43`	`break19`	`i found a spelling bug in prat - [Friend has come online. - should be Friend has come online. - and there's too many files for me to attempt to find the errant "[" heh`
`00:26.06`	`kergoth`	`steev: efika looks cute, its been a while since i played with any embedded gadgets. how much do they run?`
`00:26.08`	`steev`	`i was about 6 months in a raiding guild, and finally got fed up with the leader, and told him his leadership skills sucked`
`00:26.23`	`steev`	`kergoth: mine was free from bPlan/Genesi, but you can buy em for 199`
`00:26.28`	`kergoth`	`not bad`
`00:26.49`	`steev`	`i also applied for (doubt ill get approved) their new development board`
`00:26.50`	`cynyr`	`my guild has been good so far.. i mean i was in T1 and was in Naxx`
`00:26.54`	`kergoth`	`heard of the sharp zaurus?`
`00:27.05`	`kergoth`	`i started the openzaurus project for it, long long long ago`
`00:27.05`	`steev`	`does linux rock?`
`00:27.06`	`cynyr`	`kergoth: i wanted one of those for a while`
`00:27.17`	`steev`	`yeah, i want one too :(`
`00:27.22`	`ravagernl`	ag`_ do you mean the letterbox thing?
`00:27.34`	`kergoth`	`the Z clamshells out of japan wipe the floor with the us zaurus models`
`00:27.35`	ag`_	`ravagernl: yeah`
`00:27.39`	`steev`	`oh thats right`
`00:27.44`	`kergoth`	`i'd still rather get an n800 than a new Z though`
`00:27.46`	`ravagernl`	`I customized the textures`
`00:27.47`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`00:28.04`	`steev`	`why is`
`00:28.15`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r24333 10GridStatusHealer/ (4 files): GridStatusHealer : Separate localization files`
`00:28.17`	`ravagernl`	`gonna sleep now.. heh :P`
`00:28.19`	`steev`	`why is the wowace updater so slow, but IE downloads just fine?`
`00:28.23`	`*** join/#wowace NixxoN (n=nix@216.232.255.91)`
`00:28.30`	`ravagernl`	`steev: patchday XD`
`00:28.39`	`NixxoN`	`I take it this channel is always this huge on patch day? ><`
`00:28.46`	`*** join/#wowace Miles\|zzz (i=Miles@174-228.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net)`
`00:28.47`	`cynyr`	`steev: IE??? :P`
`00:28.49`	`Tular`	`Do you guys have addone that synch friends lists between toons?`
`00:28.53`	`steev`	`cynyr: yes, IE`
`00:29.03`	`ravagernl`	`firefox ftw`
`00:29.11`	`Tovort`	`steev: Cause there is a lot of things done in the updater, not mere downloading`
`00:29.13`	`steev`	`firefox ftw when work's software works with it`
`00:29.24`	`NixxoN`	`Can anyone give me a URL for a mirror?`
`00:29.25`	`cynyr`	`steev: i hope it's not 7... /me works at a computer support desk for his uni`
`00:29.29`	`steev`	`Tovort: you mean when it says "Downloading..."`
`00:29.36`	`steev`	`which is the part im talking about`
`00:30.00`	`groll`	`oh my wowace/files is slow :P`
`00:30.01`	ag`_	`kergoth: looks like the browser on the iPhone might be nicer than the one in n800`
`00:30.11`	`steev`	`feh`
`00:30.15`	`steev`	`apple sucks`
`00:30.20`	`ravagernl`	`what software cannot be used with firefox then steev?`
`00:30.22`	`Barbanus`	`Guys, we know, wowace.com/files is slow .. you and 74878423 others are trying to download :P`
`00:30.28`	`steev`	`ravagernl: its an internal tool`
`00:30.28`	`Tovort`	`steev: hm i'd guess the "progress" doesn't really reflect the different stages - and the only mod I found slow to download is cartographer`
`00:30.30`	`NixxoN`	`Well tell them to piss off Barb!`
`00:30.42`	`groll`	`Barbanus well sorry then`
`00:30.45`	`steev`	`Tovort: its doing bigwigs at the moment (or so it claims)`
`00:31.01`	`steev`	`not sure why i even have it now though`
`00:31.08`	vid`	`been on ag_uf for 15 min`
`00:31.09`	vid`	`hehe`
`00:31.13`	vid`	`think it croaked`
`00:31.16`	`NixxoN`	`Bigwigs got to 9% and just stopped for me like 20 mins ago... I have a feeling that as we get into "Prime Time" the site is only gonna get worse`
`00:31.18`	`steev`	`i've vowed to pvp until i get the full set since im sick of trying to get my set pieces`
`00:31.23`	`NixxoN`	`I managed to get ag tho!`
`00:31.28`	`Feldia`	`so no one knows the slash command to give someone in raid assist?`
`00:31.34`	vid`	`i thought patch was next tues`
`00:31.34`	vid`	`lol`
`00:31.35`	`steev`	`yeah, i've managed to get ag twice now`
`00:31.41`	vid`	`i guess they figured they'd make BC live this week?`
`00:31.42`	`CIA-17`	`03morgalm * r24334 10MorgDKP/ (9 files):`
`00:31.42`	`CIA-17`	`MorgDKP:`
`00:31.42`	`CIA-17`	`-updated TOC 20003`
`00:31.42`	`CIA-17`	`-fixed class being wrong format`
`00:31.42`	`CIA-17`	`-added loc for pet in roster`
`00:31.43`	`CIA-17`	`-fixed scan function as it appeared to be totally broken...oops`
`00:31.45`	`CIA-17`	`-added zeroing points earned/spent`
`00:31.58`	vid`	`so people just need to install the cd next week and off they go`
`00:32.03`	vid`	`and they will do live mait next week maybe?`
`00:32.05`	vid`	`shrug`
`00:32.15`	`NixxoN`	`So what is the policy on setting up an IRC bot to share updated files?`
`00:32.29`	`NixxoN`	`Cause at this point in time that seems like a great idea ><`
`00:32.37`	`steev`	`no`
`00:32.38`	`kergoth`	`i'd be strongly against a dcc bot`
`00:32.39`	`NixxoN`	`damn`
`00:32.40`	`Barbanus`	`NixxoN, I bet it would die as fast as the web did :P`
`00:32.42`	`ravagernl`	`feldia, can you explain?`
`00:32.42`	vid`	`2.0 patch, someone put up an FTP`
`00:32.49`	`steev`	`then you get a channel full of !search, !get !help`
`00:32.50`	vid`	`maybe someone will put one up when they get enough files`
`00:33.00`	`NixxoN`	`true, I wouldn't recommend it for this channel`
`00:33.08`	`Makk`	`#wowace.files :P`
`00:33.11`	`NixxoN`	`something like #acefiles...`
`00:33.16`	vid`	`or just dont play wow for 3 days`
`00:33.17`	`*** join/#wowace [1]Miles (i=Miles@174-228.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net)`
`00:33.23`	`Feldia`	`ravagernl: you know how you can promote people in raid, so they can do various things`
`00:33.24`	`abyssichate`	`Is anyone having issued with today's aguf pushes? I can't see name labels in ToT and ToTTs windows`
`00:33.26`	vid`	`and then it will be all good by then`
`00:33.30`	`kergoth`	`silly, just getp eople to volunteer to run mirrors of wowace.com/files or set up torrents to seed`
`00:33.30`	`Feldia`	`what's the slash command, if any, to do that`
`00:33.32`	`NixxoN`	`I only need bartender and I can play again at least ><`
`00:33.35`	`steev`	`its just that people don't realize that on 99% of the addons they can just click the load out of date addons`
`00:33.49`	`steev`	`and others more don't realize you can just edit the toc in the same ones`
`00:33.52`	`cynyr`	`thats all i did`
`00:33.55`	`steev`	`or that its just a minor line change`
`00:33.55`	`Barbanus`	`kergoth, I'd set up a mirror, wonder if I can get a copy of the zip script :P`
`00:33.56`	vid`	`yea[`
`00:33.57`	vid`	`p`
`00:33.59`	`ravagernl`	`feldia: /rapromote maybe?`
`00:34.00`	`NixxoN`	`I just figured that any mod that has an update date of today, needs to be updated... not correct?`
`00:34.10`	`Feldia`	`is that a guess?`
`00:34.24`	`steev`	`NixxoN: nope`
`00:34.29`	`NixxoN`	`Well then`
`00:34.30`	`ravagernl`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:34.35`	`steev`	`it had a change today, all it means :)`
`00:34.36`	`NixxoN`	`Time to go trial and error for a few hours :D`
`00:34.38`	`Feldia`	`this isn't specific to ctra.....`
`00:34.39`	`Feldia`	`ugh`
`00:34.46`	`NixxoN`	`Thanks steev`
`00:34.46`	`Feldia`	`in a RAID you can PROMOTE people`
`00:34.54`	`kergoth`	`NixxoN: the 2.0.3 changes were minor. not that many addons will have to change`
`00:35.07`	`ravagernl`	`meh`
`00:35.09`	`steev`	`i am glad they finally added /dismount`
`00:35.23`	`ravagernl`	`ora2 has an autopromote filter tho`
`00:35.35`	`Feldia`	`thats great, and not my question`
`00:35.37`	`Feldia`	`nvm I guess`
`00:35.38`	`ravagernl`	`so you can insert the names of ppeople you always want ptomoted`
`00:35.55`	`Barbanus`	`Feldia, look at the API, find out what the function is.`
`00:36.00`	`steev`	`thats a nice feature, since im usually the marker (what with imp sap and all)`
`00:36.05`	`steev`	`which i was lacking today haha`
`00:36.06`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r24335 10GridStatusHots/GridStatusHots.lua:`
`00:36.06`	`CIA-17`	`GridStatusHots :`
`00:36.06`	`CIA-17`	`- Update locals koKR`
`00:36.06`	`CIA-17`	`- need another language translation`
`00:36.19`	`steev`	`figured it was just a bug that i kept coming outta stealth every time i sapped`
`00:36.19`	`ravagernl`	`steev /dismount /castrandom mount1, mount2, mount3 ftw :P`
`00:37.03`	`steev`	`kergoth: want an account on my efika?`
`00:37.19`	`ravagernl`	`you just didnt had talents lol`
`00:37.35`	`steev`	`yeah - patch notes never show up in cedega :(`
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`00:38.02`	`steev`	`i didn't think there were actual changes though, i thought it was just pre-BC artwork and whatnot`
`00:38.04`	`Nephilim`	`anyone hosting mods here?`
`00:38.23`	`Klazar`	`nice now my enchants show up in green on items`
`00:38.26`	`Barbanus`	`Feldia, I believe /script PromoteToAssistant("name") will do what you want.`
`00:38.40`	`kergoth`	`Klazar: did blizz fix that? or need the addon for it still?`
`00:39.13`	`steev`	`screw it, im gonna hop in game hope the queue isn't too big`
`00:39.13`	`ravagernl`	`omg check these unitframes: http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showUI.pl?msgnum=799 sexy`
`00:39.26`	`Klazar`	`i dont know just updated the patch and noticed my enchants are green, my Ace2 addons are current`
`00:39.41`	`Barbanus`	`Nothing with discord can be any kind of sexy.`
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`00:39.57`	`Feldia`	`Barbanus: thanks`
`00:40.30`	`Barbanus`	`I'm going home now! :P`
`00:40.54`	`cynyr`	`steev: patch note work for me with wine`
`00:41.31`	`Wogroipl`	`is it possible to have this macro bound to a mouseclick in Click2Cast?`
`00:41.33`	`Wogroipl`	`/cast Nature's Swiftness`
`00:41.34`	`Wogroipl`	`/stopcasting`
`00:41.36`	`Wogroipl`	`/cast Healing Wave`
`00:41.37`	`Tular`	`Do you guys have addone that synch friends lists between toons?`
`00:42.07`	`ravagernl`	`yeah wogroipl`
`00:42.25`	`Wogroipl`	`ravagernl: any idea how, because I can have only 1 line in the macro`
`00:42.27`	`ravagernl`	`tular: I think auldlangsyne might do that, tho im not sure`
`00:42.33`	`CIA-17`	`03morgalm * r24336 10MorgBid/MorgBid.toc:`
`00:42.33`	`CIA-17`	`MorgBid:`
`00:42.33`	`CIA-17`	`-TOC update 20003`
`00:42.53`	`kergoth`	`auldlangsync can save/load the friends list, so you could sync across chars manually, but i dont think it can do it automatically like the old friendshare addon could`
`00:42.59`	`kergoth`	`s/sync/syne/`
`00:43.01`	`ravagernl`	wogroipl I dont know that either then, whine at ag`_
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`00:43.26`	`DrZoot`	`anyone seen the notes from the macworld expo?`
`00:43.42`	ag`_	`Hm, I don't know how to do line breaks in Dewdrop edit boxes Wogroipl`
`00:43.57`	ag`_	`It's Dewdrop that needs the option`
`00:44.17`	ag`_	`Wogroipl: I think you can create the macro in the macro editor until then`
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`00:44.41`	`Wogroipl`	`just the WoW macro editor?`
`00:44.45`	`ravagernl`	then give it the macro name in the dewdrop field right ag`_
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`00:45.06`	`Wogroipl`	`I tried that, but then I /say the macro name :)`
`00:45.17`	ag`_	`hrm`
`00:45.27`	`testify`	`Selfcast is gone! The horror! The pain!`
`00:45.32`	ag`_	`it be best if ckk would make Dewdrop multiline`
`00:45.33`	`Wogroipl`	`or in any other channel I was in previously`
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`00:45.59`	`testify`	`The sites taking quite a beating hey?`
`00:46.03`	`Wogroipl`	`I'll have to make due until then ;)`
`00:46.06`	`GoogleSearch`	`~GoogleSearch`
`00:46.07`	`purl`	`rumour has it, googlesearch is a Google Search Bot. Type !googlehelp to display commands.`
`00:46.15`	`sl8r88`	ag`_: combo points died again with castbar on target window. enabled and disabled both.
`00:46.28`	`jenz`	`any sites up atm for downloading the lastest ace addons since today's patch?`
`00:46.34`	`Klazar`	`Gagorian: I loaded your DrDamage for my priest, only tooltip showing is on "heal" cast.`
`00:46.44`	ag`_	`sl8r88: hm? What does it have to do with the cast bar?`
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`00:46.52`	`ravagernl`	`lol at google`
`00:46.57`	`kergoth`	`jenz: the patch is minor, most work as is`
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`00:47.35`	`jenz`	`my bag addon is screwed :(`
`00:47.35`	`sl8r88`	ag`_: nothing in particular. i'll rephrase. combo points are borked again. :)
`00:47.50`	`ravagernl`	`what bag addon you use then`
`00:48.04`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`hmm. I can't seem to move the quest fu quest lister.. even with alt click, it's not locked... I'm missing something I think`
`00:48.06`	ag`_	`sl8r88: ok. Won't be fixed until I get home from work tomorrow though`
`00:48.12`	`jenz`	`and the version of bigwigs that i had is so old its bugging out bad`
`00:48.25`	`jenz`	`was useing zbagnon`
`00:48.28`	`testify`	`So anyone know what might have happened to the selfcast button selector the used to be in the WoW interface options?`
`00:48.35`	`sl8r88`	ag`_: fair enough, thanks.
`00:48.45`	`Antiarc\|Home`	`dev.wowace.com down?`
`00:49.57`	`break19`	`firefox is ugly - camino ftw`
`00:50.02`	`break19`	`and yes I know i'm slow :p`
`00:50.19`	`cynyr`	`break19: it is basicly firefox....`
`00:50.46`	`Barbanus`	`whoops, load out of date addons you retard Barbanus`
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`00:51.32`	`jenz`	`whats a good ace bag addon?`
`00:51.40`	`ravagernl`	`onebag`
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`00:52.01`	`ravagernl`	`or baggins, or arkinventory`
`00:52.11`	`jenz`	`i'm trying to switch to all ace plugins they tend to be more stable then others`
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`00:52.36`	`break19`	`cynyr: it is exactly firefox - except it's aqua'd - which makes it appear more seamless on my mac :)`
`00:52.42`	`jenz`	`onebag sounds like something i would like can i look at my bank from anywhere with it ?`
`00:53.09`	`cynyr`	`break19: i know :) one of the shortcuts were different last time i used it`
`00:53.11`	`break19`	`jenz: no.. but you can with oneview and onebank`
`00:53.18`	`cynyr`	`jenz: with oneview`
`00:53.22`	`sergio`	`error`
`00:54.15`	`jenz`	`so is any of the ace download sites up cause ui.worldofwar is actting up for me`
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`00:54.33`	`break19`	`jenz: Not always - but seeing as how I'm a bleeding-edge kinda guy, I like the fact that I get lotsa new goodies when I run javaaceupdater :P`
`00:54.45`	`grennon`	`cant pass lead or promote people in a raid, yay`
`00:54.48`	`grennon`	`gg QA team`
`00:55.11`	`break19`	`jenz: http://grid.13th-floor.org/wowace/`
`00:55.21`	`sergio`	`is anyone else getting the line 1026 error with ag_UnitClass.lua`
`00:55.50`	`grennon`	`i dont suppose ctra taint could be causing raid frames to bug out?`
`00:56.09`	`break19`	`jenz: also, as a general rule, you should never need to install addons called "Library" or "Toolkit" as the addon that needs them, will embed them.`
`00:56.17`	`break19`	`grennon: most likely`
`00:56.23`	`Fisker-`	`i want some sleeep`
`00:56.24`	`Fisker-`	`:(`
`00:56.36`	`break19`	`I'm still trying to track down what's causing my pet casting bar to be tainted...`
`00:56.41`	`ravagernl`	`then go sleeeeep`
`00:56.51`	`ravagernl`	`chttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62188847&sid=1&pageNo=2`
`00:56.55`	`ravagernl`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62188847&sid=1&pageNo=2`
`00:56.57`	`ravagernl`	`doh XD`
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`00:57.59`	`ravagernl`	`lmao like 50% of nonace addons has that damn petbar taint in it`
`00:58.05`	`ravagernl`	`ace ftw`
`00:59.44`	`break19`	`ravagernl - these are my non-ace addons, auctioneer/gatherer, ctmailmod, GuildInventory, rpgo-characterprofiler, most of the fizzwidget stuff, TasteTheNaimbow, Healbot`
`00:59.57`	`break19`	`any of those ring a bell as a known culprit?`
`00:59.59`	`Freedon`	`I need help on my spec :S`
`01:00.13`	`Antiarc\|Home`	`What class?`
`01:00.14`	`Freedon`	`Druids come out :P`
`01:00.37`	`Freedon`	`I'm going for a 1/42/8 spec but I need advice for what to get in Feral Tree`
`01:01.09`	`Tovort`	`< Full-Resto Druid, but i'll be a happy feral from tomorrow night onward`
`01:01.27`	`Freedon`	`:)`
`01:01.38`	`Freedon`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=zzZxGMscroZV0h stuck at here`
`01:01.41`	`Freedon`	`need help of what to get`
`01:02.05`	`Kaelten`	`wth are you guys doing? we've done 20GB of traffic in the last 2 hours`
`01:02.15`	`ravagernl`	`natures grasp really isnt that good freedon`
`01:02.17`	`Freedon`	`patch?`
`01:02.44`	`Freedon`	`ravagernl, I want to go my old feral spec and i love how nature's grasp is castable in Dire Bear <3`
`01:03.01`	`Nickenyfiken`	`haha 10 GB/h not bad`
`01:03.03`	`Tovort`	`I think nature's grasp is only worth it if you take improved natures grasp`
`01:03.29`	`ravagernl`	`that was my idea also`
`01:03.30`	`Tovort`	`and there are to many niceities on second tier resto tree`
`01:04.12`	`Tovort`	`I'll go 0 41 10`
`01:04.29`	`Freedon`	`nah`
`01:04.37`	`Freedon`	`all i need is my 3/3 improved shapeshifting`
`01:04.40`	`testify`	`I think the updater needs a progress bar for times like these. I have no idea whether my BigWigs download is stuck or if it's just going 0.001k/s`
`01:04.42`	`Freedon`	`feral is shitty for mana`
`01:04.52`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`whos working on the grid translations? They are missing stuff? GridStatusHots\GridStatusHots.lua:19: AceLocale(GridStatusHots): Translation "My HoT spell" does not exist`
`01:05.04`	`Tovort`	`first a pvp build, maybe a tanking build next week`
`01:05.49`	`Freedon`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=zzZxGMsfroxdioV0h any good guys?`
`01:05.53`	`ravagernl`	`fhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=MzZtGMscrogzioV0h`
`01:05.56`	`Freedon`	`I'm thinking its an okay build`
`01:06.10`	`Tovort`	`Freedon: you can't get everything, but I think we are one of the classes that has the least reasons to complain`
`01:06.26`	`ravagernl`	`shredding attacks really isnt worth it`
`01:06.51`	`ravagernl`	`better get feral aggression to boost your ferocious bite`
`01:07.29`	`Freedon`	`I'm more of a rip guy :)`
`01:07.34`	`Freedon`	`and when maim comes out <3`
`01:08.13`	`jenz`	`sorry forgot to thank you break i been going on a download frenzy with that link :)`
`01:08.17`	`Freedon`	`Shredding Attacks or Nurturing Instincts Go!`
`01:08.28`	`Aenslaed`	`pve or pvp?`
`01:08.35`	`Freedon`	`pvp`
`01:08.39`	`Aenslaed`	`NI`
`01:08.44`	`Freedon`	`pve i heal so who cares`
`01:08.51`	`Freedon`	`NI?`
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`01:09.24`	`Aenslaed`	`nuturing instinct`
`01:09.42`	`Freedon`	`ahh`
`01:09.43`	`Aenslaed`	`shredding attacks is VERY good in pve dps.`
`01:09.55`	`Aenslaed`	`but very mediocre in pvp`
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`01:10.15`	`Goeb`	`NI for PVE ;)`
`01:10.26`	`Aenslaed`	`till you get maim. The shredding attacks will be good again`
`01:10.31`	`Aenslaed`	`then*`
`01:10.43`	`Freedon`	`hmm`
`01:10.50`	`Freedon`	`i guess i'll take shredding`
`01:11.01`	`Freedon`	`thanks for the input guys`
`01:11.03`	`ravagernl`	`"Nurturing Instinct" now grants its benefit at all times, but the bonus has been reduced to 25/50% of Strength. !`
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`01:11.49`	`ravagernl`	`OHMAGAWD "Dire Bear Form" armor bonus increased to 450% and health bonus changed to a 25% percent health increase instead of a flat increase.`
`01:12.19`	`Fisker-`	`yeah`
`01:12.21`	`Fisker-`	`lame`
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`01:12.33`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Can anyone help troubleshoot this error? GridStatusHots\GridStatusHots.lua:19: AceLocale(GridStatusHots): Translation "My HoT spell" does not exist.`
`01:12.38`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`http://www.wowace.pastey.net/4829`
`01:12.47`	vid`	`woot`
`01:12.52`	vid`	`my system seems stable so far`
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`01:13.10`	vid`	`12(CPU12) 2-Intel� Core�2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz, 3825MHz, 0KB (0% Load)`
`01:13.15`	vid`	`heh`
`01:13.20`	vid`	`air :)`
`01:13.22`	vid`	`1.4v`
`01:13.23`	`Freedon`	`not really`
`01:13.27`	vid`	`lol yea`
`01:13.29`	vid`	`first game i fire up`
`01:13.30`	`Hjalte`	`Nomad_Wanderer: Have you checked the newest release? I had that error in an earlier release, but it has been updated since then`
`01:13.33`	vid`	`its gonna be like FUCK YOU MOFO~`
`01:13.34`	vid`	`:(`
`01:13.39`	`Freedon`	`25% increase of health in Dire bear Form if it is not base hp`
`01:13.43`	`Freedon`	`is EXTREMELY NICE`
`01:13.44`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`will reget from svn`
`01:14.18`	`Freedon`	`What was it before?`
`01:14.30`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Go go Blizzard on fucked up freaking raid UI.`
`01:14.31`	`Fisker-`	`1200hp i believe`
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`01:14.58`	`Freedon`	`think a bout it, 10k hp = 12.5k hp`
`01:15.03`	`ravagernl`	`# Earth Shock" no longer causes increased threat.`
`01:15.05`	`ravagernl`	`# "Frost Shock" now causes increased threat.`
`01:15.05`	`Freedon`	`and thats not even hard in the expansion`
`01:15.07`	`ravagernl`	`ehhhh??????`
`01:15.11`	`Freedon`	`wtf`
`01:15.26`	`Freedon`	`More people use Earth Shock for higher DPS?`
`01:15.47`	`Tem`	`ZealotOnAStick, I'm rather impressed with the changes to the raid UI`
`01:15.51`	`Solaris`	vid`: wait until you download porn on it ;)
`01:15.55`	`Tem`	`ZealotOnAStick, Ryslin did a good job`
`01:16.11`	vid`	`well`
`01:16.13`	vid`	`right now`
`01:16.14`	`Tain`	`Yay porn.`
`01:16.16`	vid`	`i got cpu pegged`
`01:16.22`	vid`	`make sure that the system is stable at this speed`
`01:16.25`	vid`	`next thing is ram )`
`01:16.31`	`cynyr`	`my problem with the raid UI was that the pet frame kept poping up`
`01:16.34`	vid`	`also need to make sure temp will be okay at this speed`
`01:16.35`	`ravagernl`	`"Weapon Mastery" Rank 2 of this talent now grants full immunity to "Disarm" mechanics, and will properly display "Immune" when a "Disarm" is attempted.`
`01:16.37`	`Barbanus`	`ravagernl, yea, now the shaman tanking spell is frostshock, and the dps spell is earthshock`
`01:16.37`	`ravagernl`	`!`
`01:16.49`	`ravagernl`	`lol, blizzar is weird`
`01:17.02`	`DrZoot`	`hrmm, aguf seems to have taken over the cast bar`
`01:17.14`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`that's to let dps shaman use ES with SS, without pulling agro -too- much :P`
`01:17.29`	`Freedon`	`anyone care to explain the dark portal event`
`01:17.47`	`DrZoot`	`yeah, are there quests associated or is it just something pretty to watch`
`01:17.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`there's one quest that ive seen`
`01:18.02`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`to kill some of hte mobs that pour through.`
`01:18.04`	`Freedon`	`whats up w/ the pvp`
`01:18.09`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`On pvp servers, its really just a gankfest though`
`01:18.21`	`DrZoot`	`ohh, gankfest. im on the bat already`
`01:18.27`	`Freedon`	`ahh no pve?`
`01:18.27`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Nope Hjalte still have that error.... Line 19... http://www.wowace.pastey.net/4829`
`01:18.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`there's pve, there's waves of invading demons, that you have to kill for the quest.`
`01:19.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`but.. yeah, you put a world event like that on a pvp server, and it just descends into player killing :P`
`01:19.19`	`Freedon`	`:D`
`01:19.22`	`Freedon`	`PVE Server FTW`
`01:19.32`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah. really.`
`01:19.41`	`steev`	`heh`
`01:19.42`	`Freedon`	`but if i had a rogue`
`01:19.45`	`Freedon`	`pvp server ftw`
`01:20.08`	`Barbanus`	`NightHawkTheSane, I wish there was an event 24x7`
`01:20.14`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`what's worse is that i'm a freaking prot specced warrior on a pvp server. ><`
`01:20.14`	`Barbanus`	`Thats the fun part, world pvp`
`01:20.22`	`steev`	`3 rogues, on a pvp server == stunlock ft frustration`
`01:20.36`	`Freedon`	`oh btw guys, new spells every level in bc?`
`01:20.46`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`no`
`01:20.53`	`Freedon`	`?`
`01:20.56`	`Freedon`	`http://thottbot.com/beta?c=Druid`
`01:21.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`it's kinda random, really. sometimes you get a new spell on odd levels, sometimes you dont`
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`01:25.58`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hmm weird`
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`01:26.17`	`Kemayo`	`Now... to see how much is broken when I logged in!`
`01:26.24`	`Kemayo`	`s/logged/log/`
`01:26.30`	`Kemayo`	`Thank you, purl.`
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`01:26.55`	`Klazar`	`woaaa... i was just clicken thru a rare flockenthingybird and her 2 offspring in Darkshore and all the sudden the screen starts blinking on and off...`
`01:27.26`	`Klazar`	`I looged out between screen flashes`
`01:27.37`	`Klazar`	`s/looged/logged`
`01:27.52`	`CIA-17`	`03sorren * r24337 10CooldownTimers2/ (5 files):`
`01:27.52`	`CIA-17`	`CooldownTimers2:`
`01:27.52`	`CIA-17`	`- Now uses surface lib, cuz its spiffy.`
`01:27.52`	`CIA-17`	`- Should sorta work for deDE now :X`
`01:27.53`	`CIA-17`	`- Condense groups (CDT1 style groups) are back. No omni groups yet. Configure through the /cdt menu.`
`01:27.53`	`CIA-17`	`- Other stuff?`
`01:28.04`	`Kemayo`	`You need to end with a slash, or it's not a valid substitution expression. :D`
`01:28.35`	`Klazar`	`lol`
`01:28.46`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hmm Cooldownimers2 is not a replacement for SorrenTimers right?`
`01:29.12`	`steev`	`hmm`
`01:29.23`	`Industrial`	`:o`
`01:29.43`	`Industrial`	`Klazar: man sed, really :P`
`01:29.51`	`steev`	`Kemayo: actually, that would simply show what it would change`
`01:29.56`	`Klazar`	`hahahaha`
`01:29.57`	`Industrial`	`Klazar: purl only does very simple string replacement though`
`01:30.00`	`testify`	`Anyone know how to fix the agUF castbar error?`
`01:30.32`	`steev`	`i just want to get rid of the FiveSec Bar (which mod even shows that!) and my combo points aren't showing up`
`01:30.48`	`Kemayo`	`True, you'd have to start/finish with the appropriate flag. Which I forget.`
`01:30.51`	`Industrial`	`lol I was talking in this channel with these hardcore unix geeks (actually they hated unix and used plan9 :S)`
`01:31.02`	`Industrial`	`I mentioned xml just to see what happened`
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`01:31.11`	`Industrial`	`they were all like I cant use sed with xml!`
`01:31.15`	`Industrial`	`so it sucks!`
`01:31.17`	`Industrial`	`haha :P`
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`01:31.39`	`Klazar`	`im gonna uninstall the 2 addones I added to my UI post patch. DrDamage and SimpleCombatLog`
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`01:31.44`	`steev`	`why can't you use sed with xml?`
`01:31.49`	`IamRalph`	`hallpp >_>`
`01:31.54`	`steev`	`you can if you know wtf you are doing`
`01:32.05`	`Industrial`	`you can but you have to be psycho :P`
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`01:32.10`	`IamRalph`	`how do you get ag_unitframes to work in raid?`
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`01:32.21`	`Industrial`	`IamRalph: press the I WIN button`
`01:32.30`	`godsyn`	`talking to a lock?`
`01:32.32`	`godsyn`	`:p`
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`01:32.35`	`Industrial`	`haha`
`01:32.46`	`Codayus`	`Plan9? Pft, Inferno is where it's at.`
`01:32.58`	`Industrial`	`wait, i got this mage iwin button vid.. lemme go look for it`
`01:32.58`	`IamRalph`	`seriously tho is there no way?`
`01:33.02`	`cynyr`	`it could be a MS warior too...`
`01:33.15`	`IamRalph`	`if there isnt whats a good raid UI`
`01:33.28`	`Codayus`	`Actually, I really like Inferno. Not...hugely....useful in the Real World, though. :-(`
`01:33.35`	`IamRalph`	`with hp values and preferably slim`
`01:33.59`	`cynyr`	`IamRalph: umm just click the show frames in the raid secton...`
`01:34.13`	`cynyr`	`IamRalph: you could also try grid`
`01:34.15`	`CIA-17`	`03sorren * r24338 10CooldownTimers2/:`
`01:34.15`	`CIA-17`	`CooldownTimers2:`
`01:34.15`	`CIA-17`	`- I suck at externals.`
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`01:35.28`	`IamRalph`	`I have show frames in raid on cyn but it only shows my party not grps outside my party`
`01:35.43`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Hrm.`
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`01:35.51`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I'm not getting -any- buff display at all on AGUF.`
`01:35.52`	`cynyr`	`IamRalph: ohh, no clue haven't gotten in a raid since patch`
`01:36.11`	`rpowers`	`svn.wowace.com redirects to mirrors, correct?`
`01:36.20`	`IamRalph`	`ah thanks anyway`
`01:38.09`	`Kemayo`	`IamRalph: Raids are working for me, though I haven't been able to upgrade agUF since last night.`
`01:38.28`	`rpowers`	`I am curious, is there a way to cache externals so that they aren't downloaded for each addon I update?`
`01:38.38`	`Kemayo`	`rpowers: yes.`
`01:38.46`	`bigzero`	`wowinterface and wowwiki down? or is it just me?`
`01:38.54`	`rpowers`	`bigzero, I couldn't get to either`
`01:38.59`	`Kemayo`	`(Yay literal-minded question answering!)`
`01:39.37`	`rpowers`	`Kemayo, could you point me to info as to how to do this? I use TortoiseSVN, but also have the command line SVN binaries installed`
`01:39.39`	`Kemayo`	`More helpfully, on wowace/files there are no-exts versions of all addons. You'll need to download the external libraries separately.`
`01:39.40`	`IamRalph`	`kem this is my first time configureing this, how do you enable raids for the first time`
`01:40.39`	`Kemayo`	`Ah, if you want to do it through SVN you can use TortoiseSVN's "exclude externals" checkbox, and update addons with "Update to Revision..." which also includes that checkbox.`
`01:40.52`	`Kemayo`	`And checkout the various standalone libraries.`
`01:42.28`	`Kemayo`	`IamRalph: Type in "/aguf config", go to "Unit Frames", then to "Raid", and make sure that "Hide Frames" isn't checked.`
`01:42.28`	`rpowers`	`excellent, thanks!`
`01:43.06`	`IamRalph`	`<3 woooo`
`01:43.33`	`IamRalph`	`I feel stupid, but informed!`
`01:43.51`	`cynyr`	`better than stupid and uninformed`
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`01:44.24`	`FatherJim`	`So, had to disable the Wiki? :(`
`01:44.57`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`:(`
`01:48.06`	`CIA-17`	`03karlthepagan * r24339 10Grouper/ (Grouper.toc libs/):`
`01:48.06`	`CIA-17`	`Grouper:`
`01:48.06`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:48.25`	`Nickenyfiken`	`lol FireFox fired up a console window and was spamming alot of text`
`01:48.28`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hmm`
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`01:51.10`	`CIA-17`	`03karlthepagan * r24340 10Grouper/ (Grouper.toc libs/):`
`01:51.10`	`CIA-17`	`Grouper:`
`01:51.10`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`01:51.26`	`rpowers`	`sweet, first BSOD in a year or so.`
`01:51.31`	`Barget`	`how does buggrabber work?`
`01:51.43`	`Barget`	`grats`
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`01:55.11`	`KarlThePagan`	`so... I need a better icon for Grouper when fubar isn't enabled`
`01:55.13`	`Warpath\|Meteora`	`can i get help from someone for the unit frames`
`01:55.16`	`Fisker-`	`anyone know some paladin addons?`
`01:55.22`	`CIA-17`	`03sorren * r24341 10CooldownTimers2/Core.lua:`
`01:55.22`	`CIA-17`	`CooldownTimers2:`
`01:55.22`	`CIA-17`	`- Beware pressing the undo button too many times, sigh.`
`01:55.28`	`Warpath\|Meteora`	`ag_unit frames*`
`01:57.30`	`rpowers`	`Has anyone else been getting "GratuityLib/Gratuity-2.0/Gratuity2.0.lua:62: Attempt to index field 'rlines' (a nil value)"?`
`01:57.44`	`rpowers`	`I have a guildmate getting this repeatedly, and he can't figure out what mod in particular is causing it.`
`01:57.48`	`Alarius`	`Fisker-, I use a combination of macro's and PallyPower.`
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`01:59.07`	`Dekuna_`	`rpowers: is he using winaceupdater? the problem is an old lib`
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`01:59.52`	`Dekuna_`	`if he is using WAU, tell him to go to preferences and set SkipVersionCheck to True and then update all his mods`
`02:00.08`	`Dekuna_`	`it may take a long time, but it will also update all his libs`
`02:00.10`	`KarlThePagan`	`is anyone having wow crashing on load / memory allocation issues since 2.0.3`
`02:00.12`	`KarlThePagan`	`it seems random`
`02:00.23`	`KarlThePagan`	`one time my mods work... the next they crash wow`
`02:00.33`	`Warpath\|Meteora`	`can anyone fix this for me?.... ag_unitframes\ag_unitclass.lua:1023: Attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'startTime' (a nil value)`
`02:00.41`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Melee damage of "Felguard" has been reduced.`
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`02:00.43`	`Nickenyfiken`	`muahahaha`
`02:00.49`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hate Felguards :-P`
`02:00.53`	`Intense`	`so whats the ETA on updated files =D`
`02:00.57`	`WobatWork`	`Nickenyfiken: It's reduced to below that of the imp =P`
`02:01.04`	`WobatWork`	`And the armour to less than the succy`
`02:01.17`	`Nickenyfiken`	`haha really?`
`02:01.20`	`WobatWork`	`yeah`
`02:01.21`	`*** join/#wowace Doug_ (n=chatzill@209.188.37.157)`
`02:01.26`	`WobatWork`	`plus the dotnerf =P`
`02:01.57`	`Fisker-`	`Alarius hmm`
`02:02.00`	`rpowers`	`Dekuna_, he says "no"`
`02:02.16`	`Fisker-`	`was more thinking along the lines of some "i'm stupid and not that good refreshing judgements/seals/blessings/etc"`
`02:02.34`	`abyssichate`	`Is anyone having issues with the ToT and ToTT frames on AG_UnitFrames? The name label keeps on disappearing`
`02:03.01`	`CIA-17`	`03fatherjim * r24342 10loudmouth/changelog.txt:`
`02:03.02`	`CIA-17`	`loudmouth:`
`02:03.02`	`CIA-17`	`- Loudmouth Disappeared?`
`02:04.30`	`Barbanus`	`OMG`
`02:04.35`	`Barbanus`	`I'm gonna slap all my guildies`
`02:04.44`	`Barbanus`	`Bitching about not being able to download mods`
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`02:05.26`	`bigzero`	`could someoen check my pattern string? I don't get why it doesn't match the item id`
`02:05.28`	`bigzero`	`"\|c%x+\|Hitem:(%d+).\|h%[.%]\|h\|r"`
`02:06.37`	`WobatWork`	`meh`
`02:06.39`	`WobatWork`	`bloody gaim`
`02:06.48`	`WobatWork`	`it put a smiley right in the middle of the pattern =P`
`02:06.58`	`bigzero`	`lol, damn`
`02:07.15`	`Barbanus`	`bigzero, I am fucking horrible at regex's`
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`02:07.27`	`bigzero`	`Barbanus, appearently so am i`
`02:07.42`	`David_Lighty`	`Hello all!`
`02:07.57`	`David_Lighty`	`Just got WoW back up, anyone here use MusicStream addon?`
`02:08.15`	`Nargiddley`	`i've just been using "item:(%d+)" to get the item id from a link`
`02:08.42`	`bigzero`	`that should work....though i'm kinda pssed why this is not working`
`02:08.59`	`WobatWork`	`how does %[] work?`
`02:09.05`	`markv`	`anyone here know much about hunter pet skills (geting them from pets you need to tame)`
`02:09.08`	`Nargiddley`	`matches the literal [`
`02:09.10`	`bigzero`	`% is an escape character for [`
`02:09.15`	`Barbanus`	`Fynar, I believe that the functionality to load URLs to play was removed`
`02:09.15`	`WobatWork`	`oh that's right`
`02:09.23`	`Fynar`	`ugh`
`02:09.26`	`Barbanus`	`It aparantly was a bug, at least thats the word I heard last week`
`02:09.36`	`Barbanus`	`I would test it though.`
`02:09.37`	`Fynar`	`Ok =) Thanks.`
`02:09.59`	`WobatWork`	`All I can suggest is perhaps the format of the thing has changed?`
`02:10.20`	`WobatWork`	`link`
`02:10.23`	`bigzero`	`Nargiddley, ok, that worked....should've gone with that in the first place`
`02:10.35`	`bigzero`	`WobatWork, nothing was documented in the patch notes`
`02:10.48`	`bigzero`	`WobatWork, i'm sure i just missed somethign`
`02:10.56`	`KarlThePagan`	`bigzero, you don't need "\|c%x+" you just neeed Hitem`
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`02:11.12`	`KarlThePagan`	`the \|c escape is for coloring text`
`02:11.20`	`KarlThePagan`	`also take out the \|r`
`02:11.24`	`KarlThePagan`	`that's also for coloring text`
`02:11.32`	`Solaris`	`anyone know if there is something similar to itemrack for wowace, like strip your gear off when you feign death when wiping on a encounter?`
`02:11.35`	`KarlThePagan`	`only \|H...\|h...\|h`
`02:11.42`	`KarlThePagan`	`Solaris, ClosetGnome`
`02:11.46`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`what's wrong with itemrack? :P`
`02:11.58`	`Solaris`	`NightHawkTheSane: not been updated for a while`
`02:12.10`	`WobatWork`	`markv: What about the skills?`
`02:12.12`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`still works flawlessly for me`
`02:12.17`	`WobatWork`	`I hjaven't done it for a while now`
`02:12.29`	`WobatWork`	`but I don't think the mechanism has changed that much?`
`02:12.31`	`Solaris`	`KarlThePagan: can you assign a macro command for it?`
`02:12.51`	`KarlThePagan`	`I don't use it, but I think there's a plugin for keybindings etc`
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`02:14.26`	`WobatWork`	`damnit`
`02:14.33`	`Slayman`	`good evening fellas`
`02:14.43`	`WobatWork`	`I should have changed my nick to "I'mRalphTooAndSosMyWife"`
`02:14.57`	`Slayman`	`give me a hint, what's the reason for neither curse nor wowi responding?`
`02:15.18`	`Tain`	`Patch day?`
`02:15.39`	`Slayman`	`US realms up again already?`
`02:15.58`	`[Cu]Werik`	`:)`
`02:15.59`	`WobatWork`	`I figure as much`
`02:16.23`	`CIA-17`	`03karlthepagan * r24343 10Grouper/ (Grouper.toc libs/):`
`02:16.24`	`CIA-17`	`Grouper:`
`02:16.24`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:16.25`	`Slayman`	`sux`
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`02:17.02`	`Gandharva`	`forum down :(`
`02:17.11`	`Kemayo`	`Gosh, I just made 35 gold in the time it took me to run from the AH to the mailbox.`
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`02:17.45`	`Slayman`	`every patchday seems like the whole world is going to end. stupid internet`
`02:17.49`	`Tain`	`I can make 1000 gold in the time it takes to click the, "Pay with Payal" button!`
`02:18.35`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i understand ppl update their mods when major changes is made like with 2.0.1 patch... but now?`
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`02:18.45`	`WobatWork`	`Tain: You should sell it to the goldfarmers for USD`
`02:19.00`	`kenlyric\|home`	`50 cents per 1000g!`
`02:19.02`	`WobatWork`	`Nickenyfiken: They've been conditioned by the 2.0 patch`
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`02:19.11`	`Slayman`	`Tain: you should tranfer server and give it to me instead`
`02:19.14`	`Kemayo`	`Nicky: A patch triggers the out-of-date-addons thing. So people log in, see their addons are all gone, and...`
`02:19.30`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ok...`
`02:20.11`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Translation: People are stupid. :)`
`02:20.12`	`Slayman`	`softcore in TV`
`02:20.12`	`Slayman`	`you gotta love this country`
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`02:20.31`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hehe`
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`02:20.44`	`kenlyric\|home`	`that's why I dislike this one. NO softcore.`
`02:20.52`	`kenlyric\|home`	`well, skinemax used to.`
`02:21.11`	`Slayman`	`kenlyric\|: what's yours`
`02:21.54`	`Slayman`	`Damn some actresses look like SHIT`
`02:22.06`	`Slayman`	`well most of those do ...`
`02:23.02`	`Kemayo`	`Now... to respend my druid's talent points...`
`02:23.23`	`WobatWork`	`blink`
`02:23.39`	`WobatWork`	`scrollscrollscroll`
`02:25.15`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`does current Prat not have anything to motify scroll speed?`
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`02:26.01`	`Andune`	`Zealot: sure it does, under Scroll menu`
`02:26.02`	`Kemayo`	`I am strangely made happy by the new "fishing required" indicator. Presumably from Cartographer.`
`02:26.09`	`Andune`	`Set MouseWheel speed`
`02:26.35`	`Intense`	`so i'm assuming it'll be a few days before ace is updated?`
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`02:28.11`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Updated for waht`
`02:28.25`	`Intense`	`the new patch`
`02:28.26`	`Intense`	`today`
`02:28.29`	`Intense`	`none of my mods work`
`02:28.30`	`Intense`	`lol`
`02:28.38`	`Tem`	`I hate you`
`02:28.45`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`You need to check the out of date addons checkbox and relogin`
`02:28.46`	`Tem`	`just click "Load out of date addons"`
`02:29.02`	`Intense`	`i get errors when I do that`
`02:29.04`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`oh. and blame tekkub`
`02:29.35`	`KarlThePagan`	`I blame blizzard...`
`02:29.40`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`then you have errors. they are not associated with the patch`
`02:29.46`	`KarlThePagan`	`Grouper works fine standalone with blizz`
`02:29.53`	`KarlThePagan`	`all my other mods work fine`
`02:29.54`	`Slayman`	`BLAME CANADA!`
`02:30.00`	`KarlThePagan`	`but put them together and... wow crashes`
`02:30.02`	`Prophyy`	`anyone able to click on target in Blizraid window??`
`02:30.13`	`Prophyy`	`can't select target when in O window`
`02:30.20`	`Prophyy`	`new change?`
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`02:31.34`	`Slayman`	`Prophyy: just to annoy all the ppl`
`02:31.36`	`CIA-17`	`03aznamir * r24344 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua:`
`02:31.36`	`CIA-17`	`PallyPower:`
`02:31.37`	`CIA-17`	`- Player buttons display "in range" flag for both buffed and unbuffed players`
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`02:31.46`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Andune: thank you. I'm blind apparently.`
`02:32.11`	`bjarvis`	`anyone know of a good utility to automatically update local mods from svn? I've conscripted my guild to help me debug some raid mods, and it would be nice if i could "push" updates to them all without them having to do anything.`
`02:32.19`	`Andune`	`Zealot: NP :)`
`02:32.35`	`Slayman`	`anyone from germany still alive in here?`
`02:32.35`	`Nickenyfiken`	`http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/view/1859.jpg heh`
`02:32.58`	`Slayman`	`watch Super RTL`
`02:32.58`	`Slayman`	`I'm already laughing my ass off`
`02:33.04`	`KarlThePagan`	`I'll believe it when I loot it`
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`02:34.10`	`Andune`	`bjarvis: anything that automatically "pushes" to a users computer without any interaction from the users borders on malware, even if it's the best of intentions.`
`02:34.14`	`Slayman`	`Nickenyfiken: wth is that picture from, and where can that axe be obtained?`
`02:34.56`	`Andune`	`Best recommendation is tell them to use WowAceUpdater, or if these are your own custom mods in your own SVN repository, setup a wiki with simple step-by-step instructions for your guildies to follow`
`02:35.03`	`KarlThePagan`	`from "datamined" information`
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`02:35.18`	`neoimp`	`wowaceupdater?`
`02:35.28`	`WobatWork`	`aye`
`02:35.31`	`Andune`	`The update process once they've got everything setup (following the wiki) is probably something like 2 steps.`
`02:35.40`	`WobatWork`	`wowaceupdater.sourceforge.com maybe?`
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`02:35.48`	`dm_bgp`	`hello`
`02:35.57`	`neoimp`	`cool`
`02:35.59`	`grennon`	`raiding is fun tonight, cant promote anyone, kick kicks the wrong person`
`02:36.15`	`grennon`	`cant promote, switching leads switches to the wrong person`
`02:36.24`	`Codayus`	`Oh, charming.`
`02:36.34`	`Andune`	`neoimp: google is your friend. a google search bring back the top 3 hits - all relevant.`
`02:36.48`	`neoimp`	`yea i found it`
`02:36.55`	`grennon`	`this cant be the same 2.0.3 that was on BC beta`
`02:37.01`	`Alarius`	`wowaceupdate rocks`
`02:37.03`	`grennon`	`it wast nearly this broken`
`02:37.10`	`Ordog`	`omg`
`02:37.32`	`grennon`	`blizzard would pooch 40 man raiding the last week before xpac :-)`
`02:37.34`	`Ordog`	`all those wow freaks paying 99c to make that stupid rabid read their message`
`02:37.35`	`Tem`	`Prophyy, yes, that's intended`
`02:37.49`	`Ordog`	`those tv shows are truly awkward`
`02:38.13`	`Tem`	`Prophyy, for them to be clickable, they needed to be secure unit buttons`
`02:38.22`	`Slayman`	`is there a working Squared and even movable Minimap with Ace2`
`02:38.22`	`Slayman`	`like Squeenix which suddenly won't work anymore`
`02:38.43`	`Ordog`	`Slayman dont tell me you were that warlock from madmortem`
`02:38.50`	`Codayus`	`Squeenix is working for me....`
`02:38.54`	`kenlyric\|home`	`slayman, smm for life.`
`02:38.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`simpleMiniMap?`
`02:39.07`	`chrisp`	`grennon ya getting the same issue with promoting and lead`
`02:39.26`	`Andune`	`slayman: I use Squeenix, it works fine.`
`02:39.31`	`Slayman`	`Ordog: Trust me i do NOT have 0,99 EUR for that fun, but that computervoice is cracking me up!`
`02:39.40`	`Ordog`	`^^`
`02:39.55`	`Slayman`	`thx, then i must've made a mistake while downloading/updating it`
`02:39.56`	`xlvii`	`is there anyway to stop the blizzard downloader uploading at my max upload speed? ;o`
`02:40.06`	`Ordog`	`ye if you do the right punctuation generic voices are pretty good nowadays`
`02:40.11`	`ashke`	`xl, something like net limiter`
`02:40.13`	`ashke`	`will do it`
`02:40.20`	`WobatWork`	`netli...yeah`
`02:40.26`	`WobatWork`	`what ashke said =P`
`02:40.32`	`Codayus`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63886842&pageNo=1&sid=1#9`
`02:40.45`	`Codayus`	`The blue respose to the "can't promote/kick people in raid" issue is...confusing.`
`02:41.03`	`Slayman`	`Ordog: trust me, get really boozed with some friends, and then watch this SMS reading shows you'll be lying under the table laughing`
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`02:41.40`	`Thrae_`	`Linksys WRT54GL and versions 4 or lower have QoS bandwidth shaping. You can also put dd-wrt on it and set it up easily.`
`02:41.44`	`xlvii`	`<Ordog> all those wow freaks paying 99c to make that stupid rabid read their message? what's this about?`
`02:42.06`	`Ordog`	`there were 5 in a row or sth ...`
`02:42.24`	`Ordog`	`german servers shut down so they need some other stupid thing ^^`
`02:42.28`	`xlvii`	`i have a netgear fr114p, lol.`
`02:42.33`	`Slayman`	`xlvii: you should watch the other show with the man and the woman they are even funnier`
`02:42.40`	`xlvii`	`i can't`
`02:42.44`	`xlvii`	`my internet is shaped`
`02:42.48`	`xlvii`	`64 kb/s max download`
`02:42.51`	`Slayman`	`it's currently not broadcasting`
`02:42.56`	`xlvii`	`all being devoted to blizzard downloader at the moment.`
`02:42.57`	`xlvii`	`;p`
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`02:43.15`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r24345 10SimpleCombatLog/: going to make prat compatible as a test case`
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`02:43.36`	`DrZoot`	`a good feature for wowaceupdater would be to do a quick bandwidth check on the server, and if the server is getting hammered it could suggest you wait a while`
`02:44.03`	`Slayman`	`Ordog: you remember the "older" software version reading each and every punctuation mark? Those where Kick Ass!`
`02:44.34`	`Ordog`	`uhm that memories are pretty cloudy`
`02:45.22`	`Slayman`	`i'll bet the reading couple stills runs that version, just a matter of time we see them again`
`02:45.24`	`Ordog`	`"paladine machen keinen damage" "nerf hexxer" wtf`
`02:45.34`	`Ordog`	`i got to switch away from that`
`02:45.38`	`Kemayo`	`Wow, just standing still in a raid seems to be giving me 100+ increasing memory.`
`02:45.38`	`Slayman`	`beides falsc`
`02:45.40`	`Klazar`	`so blizzard login msg on the chat window is saying patch 2.00.3 is live, disable all third party mods....woot... not till they crash i say...already had some funky things happen though`
`02:45.41`	`Slayman`	`h`
`02:45.52`	`Codayus`	`Oh, hey, that's awesome - razorgore is bugged so the orcs and dragonkin continue to spawn DURING the second phase...and after he dies.`
`02:46.04`	`WobatWork`	`DrZoot: That woudln't do anything though`
`02:46.10`	`WobatWork`	`People would still rehammer the site`
`02:46.11`	`Codayus`	`2.0.3 = best patch ever`
`02:46.16`	`WobatWork`	`in case someone -else- decided to wait`
`02:46.16`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Codayus: they're just keeping it interesting.`
`02:46.23`	`Codayus`	`Right. :-)`
`02:46.34`	`DrZoot`	`WobatWork, yeah, it would require smart users which is always difficult to get`
`02:46.37`	`kenlyric\|home`	`every patch changes many boss fights without notice. Just for fun.`
`02:46.52`	`Slayman`	`Are you fellas up to the addon? waiting for it? awaiting it?`
`02:47.00`	`Codayus`	`Well, it is a fun change.`
`02:47.03`	`WobatWork`	`who needs new content when we can just randomise the current stuff`
`02:47.24`	`CIA-17`	`03curney * r24346 10Prat/modules/ (10 files): Prat: fixed use of PRAT_MODULE in several files`
`02:47.35`	`Ordog`	`we got wiped on rend(!) cuz there was a mob with him, pretty unpleasant for a zg farmer guild ^^`
`02:47.49`	`Codayus`	`But I'm going to lean towards "bug" I think. Honestly, they should have called this 2.1, it breaks way too much to just be 2.0.3`
`02:47.53`	`Ordog`	`they kep coming`
`02:48.06`	`Codayus`	`Ordog: Yeah, actually, that was happening last week too.`
`02:48.22`	`kenlyric\|home`	`oh cool, you get the pvp sound every 5 seconds now.`
`02:48.27`	`Codayus`	`And other fun bugs with that encounter.`
`02:48.27`	`Ordog`	`and when gyth died the second time rend was just not there ^^`
`02:48.28`	`Slayman`	`i need to lvl my mage to 60 till the 16th. but i may not be able to make it :(`
`02:48.37`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Slayman, what level now?`
`02:48.40`	`Codayus`	`Ordog: Exactly`
`02:48.44`	`Slayman`	`52,5`
`02:48.45`	`Ordog`	`but the event startet again after we rezzed in the middle of the room`
`02:48.51`	`Ordog`	`soooo surprising`
`02:48.53`	`Klazar`	`Im curious, the updates the come across on here to modsm when do they go on the files page?`
`02:48.56`	`Ordog`	`half raid was rezzed ...`
`02:49.01`	`xlvii`	`slayman, i'll race you.. i'm 43 at the moment :p`
`02:49.03`	`Codayus`	`I ended up killing gyth twice, rend never spawned, and we were stuck in the arena with Nef running in circles(!?) on one balcony, and the gates shut.`
`02:49.05`	`xlvii`	`on a rogue.`
`02:49.16`	`Ordog`	`hehe exactly Codayus`
`02:49.38`	`Codayus`	`Yay for bugs.`
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`02:50.06`	`Slayman`	`you'll win, I'm already outa gas i have no idea where i can go for lvling, nor do I want to lvl alone anymore`
`02:50.28`	`xlvii`	`get some farmers to aoe stratholme for you? ;p`
`02:50.49`	`kenlyric\|home`	`you are 52 and you have no idea where to go?`
`02:50.52`	`WobatWork`	`it really works =)`
`02:50.52`	`kenlyric\|home`	`boggle`
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`02:51.27`	`Slayman`	`that's the problem on that server i have like 2 friends, both casual gamers so noone to pull me through anywhere`
`02:51.40`	Val`	`anyone have the link for haste's page of mods?`
`02:51.52`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I just did 1-60 solo during november and half of december. Never had trouble finding quests.`
`02:51.53`	`Slayman`	`haste.wowinterface.com ?`
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`02:52.27`	`kenlyric\|home`	`seems at 52 I was doing un'goro and WPL and blasted lands and some felwood.`
`02:52.28`	`Quetzi`	`Klazar, /files is updated every 20 mins approx`
`02:52.45`	`xlvii`	val`, fuxsake.net
`02:52.51`	`xlvii`	val`, or .com, i forget.
`02:52.52`	`Slayman`	`i have 2 quests left in Un'Goro and my next spot would be either felwood or azshara both not providing enough quests in my opinion`
`02:53.10`	`xlvii`	`slayman, aoe some stuff.`
`02:53.10`	`xlvii`	`;p`
`02:53.29`	`Klazar`	`Quetzi: thnx, as i see the autoupdater is skipping everyting and now I note the files page is more current, so for now manual updating it seems`
`02:53.33`	`xlvii`	val`, fuxsake.net is correct.
`02:54.10`	`Slayman`	`i have an idead!`
`02:54.18`	`Slayman`	`s/idead/idea/`
`02:54.24`	`Quetzi`	`Klazar, the updater pulls from the files page`
`02:54.44`	`Slayman`	`send that rabbit a message containing only of = he'll read em all!`
`02:54.44`	`Goeb`	`anyone know of a totem timer that works?`
`02:54.56`	`Wogroipl`	`Gotwood?`
`02:54.59`	`CIA-17`	`03arjuna * r24347 10simpleMinimap/ (5 files in 2 dirs):`
`02:54.59`	`CIA-17`	`simpleMinimap:`
`02:54.59`	`CIA-17`	`- various leftovers from the code rewrite`
`02:54.59`	`CIA-17`	`- disabled button resize until i figure it out`
`02:55.07`	`Quetzi`	`Klazar, so if the updater says you are current, then you are ;)`
`02:56.17`	`Slayman`	`Schpongebob Schwammkopf`
`02:56.31`	`Klazar`	`Quetzi: checking version #s to the files page is showing a diff, autobar, bartender3 caught my eye, maybe its something i've checked in the updater...ill see`
`02:57.09`	`WobatWork`	`oh man`
`02:57.14`	`WobatWork`	`everything sounds funnier in german`
`02:57.51`	`Thorgard`	`Passe auf!`
`02:57.51`	`Tem`	`everything sounds WAY funnier in french`
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`02:58.04`	`WobatWork`	`often in the 'Mein Gott, what were they thinking" sort of way`
`02:59.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I think everything sounds much funnier in german, with a french accent.`
`02:59.11`	`Ordog`	`hehe`
`02:59.25`	`Slayman`	`german is an interesting language, but I'm glad it's my native tongue, because learning it is already too much for most german WoW Gamers`
`02:59.27`	`Shwei`	`hey guys, i have 75 addons i use through WinAceUpdater. is there a quick/easy way to convert them all to svn working copies by chance?`
`02:59.41`	`Ordog`	`watch American Dad then, the goldfish is german :P`
`02:59.53`	`Klazar`	`Quetzi: like this for example from my javaupdater using wowace.com/files shows: ag_UnitFrames - Looking for update... Already up to date (r24085) - Skipping! but the actuall revsion is r24332`
`03:00.30`	`Thorgard`	`Klazar, what mirror are you using? :o`
`03:00.33`	`Slayman`	`"Ruhrgebiet Ruhrgebiet Ruhrgebiet" One hell of a statement`
`03:00.44`	`Klazar`	`http://www.wowace.com/files/`
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`03:01.50`	`Slayman`	`Ordog: xlvii: what classes /races /servers /servertypes you guys play ?`
`03:03.03`	`CIA-17`	`03fleetfoot 07v3 * r24348 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble/ (BigTrouble-enUS.lua BigTrouble.lua):`
`03:03.03`	`CIA-17`	`BigTrouble:`
`03:03.03`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed all support for Aimed Shot, this is now Auto Shot only.`
`03:03.05`	`Andune`	`Kemayo: saw your msg about memory usage standing still in a raid. Are you using SmartDebuffer?`
`03:03.46`	`Kemayo`	`Andune: No. But it went away once I disabled everything that uses RosterLib. (It's my early suspect in these situations...)`
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`03:04.31`	`Quetzi`	`Klazar, sounds to me like your updater is looking somewhere other than the wowace site`
`03:04.34`	`Goeb`	`yeah gotwood is completely non-functional at the moment... no timers, no nuttin...`
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`03:04.42`	`Goeb`	`no errors to fix ;(`
`03:05.17`	`Andune`	`Kemayo: ah. I have the same problem with SmartDebuffer. It leaks like crazy. Was gonna suggest switching to Grid if that was your problem :)`
`03:05.44`	`CIA-17`	`03fleetfoot * r24349 10LittleTrouble/: Created folder remotely`
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`03:06.17`	`CIA-17`	`03kameril * r24350 10BarAnnounce3/Core.lua: BarAnnounce3:-small fix for LoD modules based on zone names`
`03:06.29`	`Goeb`	`did they change math.mod to something else? boggle`
`03:06.35`	`KarlThePagan`	`math.fmod`
`03:07.13`	`Gngsk`	`use %?`
`03:08.18`	`Andune`	`tempting to punt WAU and just do direct SVN updates. The SVN repository is plenty snappy still :)`
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`03:09.03`	`Kemayo`	`Andune: Pfft, I'm a tank. Why would I care about other people's frames?`
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`03:09.06`	`Kemayo`	`;-)`
`03:09.17`	`Doriboi`	`is anyone having Ace issues?`
`03:09.23`	`Kemayo`	`Doriboi: Not I.`
`03:09.26`	`Thorgard`	`Hmm, the combo points aren't showing on my agUF target frame for some reason.`
`03:09.31`	`Andune`	`Kemayo: LOL. Lucky you, I'm on the other end of that spectrum - all I get to do is stare at frames ;)`
`03:09.32`	`Kemayo`	`Doriboi: More specific?`
`03:09.50`	`Doriboi`	`im using the winace updater to upadate to the new patch and the ace didnt load up`
`03:10.10`	`Kemayo`	`Doriboi: Have you checked "load out of date addons" in the addons window?`
`03:10.28`	`Andune`	`Thorgard: can't help with that, but I would highly recommand ArcHud2. I love it for my rogue b/c of the way it brings combat points to the center of the screen with your toon.`
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`03:11.07`	`Doriboi`	`Kemayo: in winaceupdator?`
`03:12.26`	`Doriboi`	`oh in wow`
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`03:13.25`	`eldoc`	`aloha`
`03:13.45`	`Doriboi`	`sweet it worked ty`
`03:13.58`	Val`	`xlvii thx`
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`03:14.31`	`eldoc`	`a question about oCB: cant find it on files, svn or google`
`03:14.58`	`eldoc`	`was it removed or included into some other addo? (funky casting bar)`
`03:15.33`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`eldoc: CBRipoff is basically oCB`
`03:15.44`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`if you want haste's very own version, fuxsake.net`
`03:16.27`	`eldoc`	`i have no prob with progressiver version, its a prep for tomorrow ^^`
`03:16.37`	`eldoc`	`what you suggest?`
`03:16.48`	`eldoc`	`-r +do :-/`
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`03:17.16`	`GTez`	`is there a fix yet for fubar? I seem to be getting an error with it / AceConsole but i can't find the line the error gives, and the SVN has nothing updated`
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`03:17.28`	`Slayman`	`outa here going to grab some sleep good nigh ya all`
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`03:18.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`im not seeing any issue with fubar`
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`03:19.28`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r24351 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-koKR.lua:`
`03:19.28`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames :`
`03:19.28`	`CIA-17`	`- Update locale koKR`
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`03:19.59`	`GTez`	`A number of members of my guild and myself have seen the same issue - basically getting "interface\Addons\FuBar\FuBar.lua:289:AceConsole-2.0: args.background.args.color: "name" must be a string`
`03:20.01`	`eldoc`	`oha found what i need, thx ZealotOnAStick ^^`
`03:20.49`	`Doriboi`	`ok is anyone having issues with Bagfu?`
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`03:21.42`	`GTez`	`but neither fubar.lua or aceconsole-2.0.lua have anything to do with color on those lines :( and im still pretty new at lua to be able to find my way around the code well enough.`
`03:22.17`	`eldoc`	`<offtopic> onyone in a more or less good raid and facing annihilation with bc? </offtopic>`
`03:22.27`	`Nargiddley`	`GTez, it sounds like its a fubar plugin doing it`
`03:22.34`	`WobatWork`	`GTez: Chances are it's a plugin`
`03:22.41`	`WobatWork`	`not fubar directly`
`03:22.46`	`Nargiddley`	`one with a Background -> Color option in its menu normally`
`03:22.52`	`WobatWork`	`check which plugins you all have in common`
`03:23.02`	`GTez`	`WobatWork / Nargiddley - funny thing is I don't have any enabled atm`
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`03:23.09`	`Barbanus`	`Hmm buddy of mine just got a mesage that his petbar is tainted from Prat`
`03:23.18`	`Barbanus`	`Anyone know what he can do about that?`
`03:23.19`	`Kemayo`	`My guild picked tonight for our first ever BWL run. :D`
`03:23.37`	`GTez`	`Kemayo : Good luck!`
`03:23.55`	`Doriboi`	`Yea my BagFu is whacked up, it wont close after i open my backpack`
`03:23.58`	`Kemayo`	`We've only wiped three times so far on Razorgore!`
`03:24.04`	`CIA-17`	`03maudy * r24352 10ClassColors/ClassColors.toc: ClassColors: New TOC version`
`03:24.44`	`GTez`	`Wierd thing too - Grid no longer enables if I enable just FuBar - if I disable fubar, it comes back. Looks to me like a shared libary is not a happy camper.`
`03:25.21`	`eldoc`	`i am realm pool 3 in eu, -apart from our computing centre went tits up for 4+ weeks up- we are no. #1 since the 2 raid before us disbanded`
`03:25.23`	`GTez`	`Kemayo : Razorgore is one of those fights that once you get it, it's like magic, before then it's a wipefest :)`
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`03:25.35`	`eldoc`	`saphi/kel to go`
`03:25.45`	vid`	`wow thats weird`
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`03:26.07`	`eldoc`	`complete pool had ping 1k+ for several weeks`
`03:26.10`	vid`	`all my BT3 bars moved, my aguf is weird, my minimap moved, i lost all my profiles in wardrobe2`
`03:26.17`	vid`	`hmm`
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`03:26.25`	vid`	`did the patch nuke sv's?`
`03:26.25`	`MooMonkey`	`hi, i just DL the simplechatmod anyone know the / command to get options?`
`03:26.34`	`eldoc`	`but now every raid disbanding / members switching server`
`03:26.35`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r24353 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-koKR.lua:`
`03:26.35`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames :`
`03:26.35`	`CIA-17`	`- sorry :) Update locale koKR`
`03:26.47`	`Barbanus`	`wtf my raid window is so fucked`
`03:26.51`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24354 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):`
`03:26.51`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames:`
`03:26.51`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:26.51`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:26.51`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:26.55`	`Barbanus`	`I promote someone, it promotes the wrong person`
`03:27.24`	`eldoc`	`with the path lots of people "lets wait for bc blue stuff will do the thing" appeared`
`03:27.30`	`eldoc`	`*patch`
`03:27.31`	`bigzero`	`if I pass a table to a function, and the functions messes around with that table, will my original table change too? i.e. are table variables actually pointers?`
`03:27.57`	`Nargiddley`	`yes, tables are references`
`03:28.10`	`DrZoot`	`wheres the darkmoon canon at? (TB Darkmoon)`
`03:28.22`	`xlvii`	`is ag_uf updated for 2.0.3?`
`03:28.37`	`CIA-17`	`03tigerheart * r24355 10AutoAcceptInvite/AutoAcceptInvite.toc:`
`03:28.37`	`CIA-17`	`AutoAcceptInvite:`
`03:28.37`	`CIA-17`	`- toc updated`
`03:28.37`	`DrZoot`	`Nargiddley, are you sure about that Nargiddley`
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`03:28.46`	`Quetzi`	`Barbanus, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63886842&sid=1`
`03:29.16`	`DrZoot`	`Nargiddley, because im almost 100% sure that tables are references except when passed as arguments to a function, when they are passed by copy not reference`
`03:29.20`	`kagaro`	`anyone else get frame rate drops with eePanels?`
`03:29.24`	vid`	`wtf`
`03:29.30`	vid`	`like ALL of my sv's reset`
`03:29.34`	vid`	`with 2.0.3 patch`
`03:29.35`	vid`	`cept for a few`
`03:29.36`	`Nargiddley`	`DrZoot, its always a reference`
`03:29.42`	vid`	`goddamnit`
`03:29.46`	vid`	`now i gotta reposition everything :\`
`03:29.54`	`DrZoot`	`Nargiddley, well try it but I couldnt get it to pass a reference the other day`
`03:30.02`	`xlvii`	vid`, so do i.. it's annoying >_>
`03:30.19`	`bigzero`	`Nargiddley, is there a constructor function to deep-copy tables?`
`03:30.22`	`xlvii`	`and i have to remember my numbers too, which is worse.`
`03:30.32`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r24356 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-koKR.lua:`
`03:30.32`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames :`
`03:30.32`	`CIA-17`	`- typo fix koKR T_-`
`03:30.40`	`Doriboi`	`hey is anyone having BagFu issues?`
`03:30.56`	`Nargiddley`	`nope, have to deep copy yourself`
`03:30.58`	vid`	`my autobar is like fucking massive too lol`
`03:31.02`	vid`	`its like 500% scale`
`03:31.13`	`Thorgard`	`Any combo-points using agUF users here?`
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`03:33.52`	`guest12345`	`anyone having problems displaying combo points on target on ag_unitframes with the new update`
`03:34.33`	`sergio`	`i think the casting bar broke it`
`03:34.34`	`sergio`	`shrug`
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`03:35.06`	`bigzero`	`DrZoot, tried that, Nargiddley is right. /script local a = {["b"] = 5}; c = function(tbl) tbl.b = 4 end; c(a); message(a.b)`
`03:35.54`	`guest12345`	`cating bar broke combo points?`
`03:35.57`	`guest12345`	`*casting`
`03:36.22`	`Fisker-`	`y helo thar`
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`03:37.14`	`DrZoot`	`bigzero, hmmm, well I wonder what I was doing wrong then`
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`03:37.39`	`[SylvanShadows]H`	`Hello people!`
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`03:39.09`	`Sling\|Detheroc`	`The slow WinAceUpdater is just a server-side bandwidth issue, right?`
`03:39.17`	`Barbanus`	`Sling\|Detheroc, yes`
`03:39.28`	`Barbanus`	`bandwidth and load`
`03:39.38`	`CIA-17`	`03roartindon * r24357 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_FrameTemplate.xml ag_Options.lua ag_UnitClass.lua):`
`03:39.38`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames:`
`03:39.38`	`CIA-17`	`1. Added CastBar to Metro frames`
`03:39.38`	`CIA-17`	`2. Added arg1 checks for all spellcast operations. The reason for this is that`
`03:39.38`	`CIA-17`	`eg. UNIT_SPELLCAST_START can be originated from any unit in the raid. We don't`
`03:39.39`	`CIA-17`	`want everyone's bars to be processed whenever one person does something.`
`03:39.43`	`CIA-17`	`3. Chnaged playerSpellCastData name to spellCastData. The playerSpellCastData naming was a hangover from a time when I originally added the player's casting bar to MiniGroup, then Minigroup2 (!)`
`03:39.45`	`Sling\|Detheroc`	`Good thing I only have 118 Ace2 addons! =\`
`03:39.48`	`Barbanus`	`Kaelten is babysitting it, trying to get it good, I'm sure.`
`03:39.49`	`GTez`	`What language is WinAceUpdater writen in?`
`03:40.36`	`testify`	`C#.net`
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`03:42.04`	`GTez`	`I was wondering if the C# .NetGNU compiler would work to compile it for OSX`
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`03:43.18`	`testify`	`I thought there was already one developed for OSX`
`03:43.30`	`GTez`	`is there?`
`03:43.33`	`GTez`	`I've not seen it`
`03:43.49`	`Sling\|Detheroc`	`On the SVN?`
`03:44.00`	`GTez`	`Nargiddley : It was Critline 3.1 that killed it (FuBar) - thanks for the tipoff.`
`03:44.50`	`Fisker-`	`GTez there's a javaaceupdater i believe`
`03:45.29`	`soulz2003`	`is there a fix out for ag_uf?`
`03:45.56`	`xlvii`	`trying to update my addons (without externals), but i keep getting this error - Error: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/24350'`
`03:45.56`	`xlvii`	`Error: No such revision 24350`
`03:46.20`	`Fisker-`	`it'll get there`
`03:46.21`	`Fisker-`	`:P`
`03:46.40`	`guest12345`	`can anyone help me out with ag_unitframes not displaying combo points`
`03:47.26`	`GTez`	`Fisker: I'm lookin for it - unfortunately http://nickenyfiken.com/AceUpdater/JavaAceUpdater.jar no longer exists :(`
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`03:47.50`	`Photon`	`l`
`03:48.29`	`Photon`	`I've just been following links on forums to find out why my Cartographer is broken and how to fix it. I don't suppose that has anything to do with this channel does it?>`
`03:48.58`	`Fisker-`	`Nickenyfiken`
`03:49.05`	`Fisker-`	`people need you :P`
`03:49.36`	`CIA-17`	`03fleetfoot * r24358 10LittleTrouble/: Removed file/folder`
`03:50.05`	`CIA-17`	`03fleetfoot * r24359 10LittleTrouble/: made a copy`
`03:50.11`	`bigzero`	`is this right for deep-copying tables? http://ace.pastey.net/4833`
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`03:51.55`	`Nargiddley`	`looks about right, if you know you dont have a recursive structure`
`03:51.57`	`Tem`	`bigzero, almost`
`03:52.17`	`Tem`	`you need to use pairs`
`03:52.46`	`bigzero`	`Tem, i thought that was for an iteration function`
`03:52.56`	`WobatWork`	`since 5.1`
`03:52.58`	`Tem`	`it is`
`03:53.03`	`Tem`	`you can't use for k,v in table`
`03:53.04`	`bigzero`	`Nargiddley, yeah, i guess i'll have to assume there's no recursion`
`03:53.11`	`CIA-17`	`03arjuna * r24360 10FuBar_switcherFu/FuBar_switcherFu.toc:`
`03:53.11`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_switcherFu`
`03:53.11`	`CIA-17`	`- TOC update`
`03:53.12`	`WobatWork`	`for k,v in pairs(tble)`
`03:53.18`	`Tem`	`you need to use for k,v in pairs(tbl)`
`03:53.32`	`Tem`	`bigzero, you can protect against cyclic tables fairly easily`
`03:54.23`	`Tem`	`but it's not worth the effort if you know better`
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`03:54.55`	`bigzero`	`would like to learn how, but probably won't implement it in my project`
`03:54.59`	`bigzero`	`brb`
`03:55.25`	`CIA-17`	`03fleetfoot * r24361 10LittleTrouble/ (12 files):`
`03:55.25`	`CIA-17`	`LittleTrouble:`
`03:55.25`	`CIA-17`	`- Renamed files`
`04:00.00`	`soulz2003`	`anyword on ag_uf?`
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`04:02.10`	`Thorgard`	`soulz2003, what kind of word?`
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`04:03.57`	`testify`	`aha`
`04:04.35`	`testify`	`Apparently blizzard screwed up the new coding for the /target command`
`04:05.12`	`DrZoot`	`i dont mind the new cast bar in aguf but i kinda wish it didnt hide the normal castbar`
`04:05.49`	`testify`	`the normal cast bar?`
`04:06.45`	`testify`	`weird, oCB is still up`
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`04:07.34`	vid`	`man`
`04:07.42`	vid`	`all of aguf got reset~`
`04:07.43`	vid`	`noo`
`04:07.52`	vid`	`took me like 15 mins last time`
`04:07.56`	vid`	`to line upe verything perfect :P`
`04:08.03`	`KarlThePagan`	`heh`
`04:08.07`	`DrZoot`	`the new toc is 20003 right?`
`04:08.13`	`KarlThePagan`	`wtb more mods that stick to each other like BT2`
`04:08.17`	`KarlThePagan`	`more frame i mean`
`04:08.20`	`KarlThePagan`	`zoot yea`
`04:08.22`	vid`	`wow`
`04:08.24`	vid`	`lot of shit broke`
`04:08.31`	vid`	`at least that i run`
`04:08.47`	vid`	`xlootmon, onestorage, oneview`
`04:09.02`	vid`	`sea`
`04:09.03`	`JoshBorke`	`nn all`
`04:09.04`	vid`	`heyfu`
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`04:09.13`	Val`	`anyone having trouble getting rid of scrollbuttons with the new prat?`
`04:09.22`	vid`	`nope`
`04:09.37`	`Barbanus`	`lol we are 20 maning the trash outside of karazan`
`04:09.39`	Random`	`have you guys used vchat?`
`04:10.11`	`KarlThePagan`	`Barbanus, epix? hehe`
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`04:10.40`	vid`	`oh wow`
`04:10.44`	vid`	`aguf has a castbar now`
`04:10.47`	`mangoshake`	`did a lot of addons break this patch? I haven't updated any of mine yet, the old versions all seem to work just fine`
`04:10.49`	vid`	`was wondering what that big ass bar was`
`04:11.11`	Random`	`ugh, i dont wanna reconfig all that =/`
`04:11.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`.... none of my mods broke at all`
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`04:13.07`	`testify`	`we're doing the fight to heigan right now and we're having a REALLY fun time trying to kick a person from our raid`
`04:13.26`	`sergio`	`anyone having a weird bug with icons showing up for the wrong items like a fire icon for strength of earth`
`04:13.31`	`sergio`	`it seems really random`
`04:13.33`	`testify`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:13.36`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`so, thanks to Blizzard's fucked up raid ui . . .`
`04:13.46`	`Velkyn`	`I was earlier Sergio.`
`04:13.55`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`since we can't kick people who are offline from the raid, since it just kinda kicks random people . . .`
`04:14.05`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`we have to disband the raid, and then reinvite everyone online.`
`04:14.12`	`testify`	`lol yup`
`04:14.17`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`and like half the people get auto-ported.`
`04:14.17`	`Velkyn`	`Just a quick question, SimpleMiniMap, is this mod not loaduping up anything for everyone else? Or do I have some kind of conflict?`
`04:15.20`	`kenlyric\|home`	`did you upgrade your ora and delete your SV. Blizzard says it will work, so it must!`
`04:15.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Velkyn, i noticed that it loaded fine, but shifted the minimap to the far lower left hand corner. try raising the map's strata and looking there?`
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`04:16.15`	`Velkyn`	`NightHawk: Let me log in and take a look, it just wasnt there that I could see... possible its off the screen or something though.`
`04:16.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah`
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`04:16.24`	`mangoshake`	`My SImpleMinimap was working fine before the server went down just now. I didn't update today tho so I'm still on yesterday's build`
`04:16.29`	`Velkyn`	`Are you aware of a command to make it reset, or center?`
`04:16.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`it does have a command to reset.`
`04:16.54`	`Velkyn`	`I was gona check the Wiki for /slash commands, but apparnetly the server is popular today :)`
`04:17.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`not sure what it is, i just use DeuceCommander`
`04:17.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`heh, it is every patch day`
`04:17.26`	`TAU\|NukeleaR`	`Hi guys, anyone having an error with Visor2?`
`04:17.30`	`TAU\|NukeleaR`	`On load`
`04:17.32`	`Velkyn`	`I wasnt expecting this at all.`
`04:17.48`	`Velkyn`	`So every Blizzard Patch jacks with things this badly?`
`04:18.05`	`Velkyn`	`Nuke: What kind of problems?`
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`04:18.37`	`CIA-17`	`03roartindon * r24362 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:`
`04:18.37`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames`
`04:18.37`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed code for castingTarget in UpdateCastBar. There's no possible path to this code that will have castingTarget set`
`04:19.07`	`Velkyn`	`NightHawk: /simpleminimap reset worked great, thanks mate.`
`04:19.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`np :)`
`04:20.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`And no, not every patch screws things up. But what inevitably happens is that every patch updates the TOC, causing all a users' addons to appear "out of date", and so users panic and flood UI sites looking for updates.`
`04:20.14`	`Antiarc\|Home`	`Hahahahah`
`04:20.18`	`Antiarc\|Home`	`One of our druids just hit a bug`
`04:20.24`	`Antiarc\|Home`	`They are regenning 320 mana/tick in combat.`
`04:20.36`	`Shroom`	`WTB bug..`
`04:20.37`	`Antiarc\|Home`	`They can't get the regen to stop.`
`04:20.48`	`Velkyn`	`I would like to put a bid in on that as well :)`
`04:20.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Honestly, I just clicked "load out of date addons" and everything worked fine. Except for some wierdities with Simpleminimap and Bongos, no problems at all..`
`04:21.06`	`Velkyn`	`No kidding?`
`04:21.12`	`Velkyn`	`I lost all kinds of stuff off FuBar`
`04:21.14`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Antiarc\|Home, that's awesome.`
`04:21.29`	`TAU\|NukeleaR`	`Velkyn: I'm getting an err or let me see if I can copy it`
`04:21.45`	`Velkyn`	`Nuke: I wont know code bud.`
`04:21.55`	`Velkyn`	`Nuke: What is it doing thats keeping you from playing?`
`04:21.55`	`break19`	`I have a problem with 1 or 2 of my non-ace addons.. everything else is golden.`
`04:22.17`	`TAU\|NukeleaR`	`Velkyn: VisorTooltip:SetOwner(): Can't set owner to self`
`04:22.32`	`TAU\|NukeleaR`	`It just keeps spamming my dang screen hehe`
`04:22.48`	`Velkyn`	`Nuke: You run the ace updater?`
`04:23.08`	`bigzero`	`so anyone still around who wants to explain how to check for recursion in tables when deep-copying them?`
`04:25.29`	`TAU\|NukeleaR`	`Ya`
`04:25.31`	`TAU\|NukeleaR`	`always do`
`04:25.33`	`TAU\|NukeleaR`	`one sec brb`
`04:25.33`	`soulz2003`	`does ora2 (latest revision) fix the raid bugs?`
`04:25.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`which raid bugs exactly`
`04:26.23`	`soulz2003`	`the ones where you can't Promote people, or when you do it, it switches to someone random`
`04:26.33`	`kergoth`	`whats the url to haste's site again? and does he have an svn?`
`04:26.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`those dont have anything to do with ora2`
`04:26.45`	`kergoth`	`also, damnit, cooldowntimers2 upward growth doesnt seem to work :(`
`04:26.51`	`Thorgard`	`I'm trying to remember the name of this mod I was using a long time ago.. it was some kind of itemlink thing. The only part I ever used was its chat itemlink tab-completion thing. [Broken<tab> I.W.I.N Button] the reverse portion would be 'marked' so any other key press would erase it. Anyone used/remember what mod this was a part of?`
`04:26.54`	`steev`	`fuxsake.net and not afaik`
`04:27.00`	`soulz2003`	`oh :\| i guess there's no way you can fix it?`
`04:27.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`i think you can`
`04:31.53`	`Velkyn`	`Can anyone recommend a "unitframe" mod that keeps a "fantasy feel" to it, yet still provides functional flexibility?`
`04:32.46`	`Azurewrath`	`haha.. seems blizz removed the premade AV group join command`
`04:32.56`	`bigzero`	`?`
`04:32.58`	`Ordog`	`two patches ago yes`
`04:33.15`	`bigzero`	`there was a command for it but no button?`
`04:33.18`	`Ordog`	`you are late Azurewrath ^^`
`04:33.23`	`Azurewrath`	`no, they only removed the button, it was still in`
`04:33.54`	`Azurewrath`	`now it's gone completely in 2.0.3 .. but the author of premade av enabler updated already ;)`
`04:33.54`	`Ordog`	`well you got me there then`
`04:33.56`	`CIA-17`	`03roartindon * r24363 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Changed SpellcastSent method since untargetted spells seem to pass in an empty string causing readouts such as "Conjure Mana Ruby ()"`
`04:34.43`	`Ordog`	`hows it workin then? just telling every nonleader client on the raid to join the queue when the leader does?`
`04:35.16`	`Azurewrath`	`jep, now every member of the group has to open the join interface`
`04:35.30`	`Azurewrath`	`besides that it works the same as before.. and only the leader has to update`
`04:35.51`	`Ordog`	`hm k`
`04:35.58`	`Ordog`	`gn8 chaps`
`04:36.32`	`doxxx`	`FelwoodFarmer's externals are still not right :(`
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`04:42.13`	`WobatWork`	`g'n'eight?`
`04:42.21`	`Lenthan`	`So, having a problem with Cartographer, I put it in the add ons folder but WoW doesn't recognize that it's there`
`04:42.27`	`WobatWork`	`that's a bit irish =P`
`04:42.57`	`WobatWork`	`Make sure the folder name and the toc file name are trhe same`
`04:43.07`	`Azurewrath`	`did you activate the "Load outdated mods" thingie? Maybe the toc is still at 20000`
`04:43.57`	`Lenthan`	`no, it doesn't show up at all`
`04:44.24`	`Lenthan`	`they're all the same`
`04:46.13`	vid`	`woo baby`
`04:46.18`	vid`	`getting 6 errors/sec now`
`04:46.20`	vid`	`since i exited bg`
`04:46.26`	`steev`	`did you extract the zip?`
`04:46.31`	`steev`	`or just put the zip file in the addons folder`
`04:46.40`	`Lenthan`	`extracted`
`04:46.45`	`kebinusan`	vid`: any mod that does ability cooldowns is probably bjorked
`04:46.53`	`kebinusan`	`like omnicc`
`04:46.56`	vid`	`yea its aguf`
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`04:47.01`	vid`	`omnicc is working for me`
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`04:47.14`	vid`	`aguf action blocked is what im gettin :P`
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`04:47.24`	`Tuller`	`omnicc isn't broken, any mod that has cooldown models that did not adjust are`
`04:47.30`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24364 10Prat/modules/Timestamps.lua:`
`04:47.30`	`CIA-17`	`Prat: Reverting to Addmessage hooking to stamp every line`
`04:47.30`	`CIA-17`	`Issue : 14,32`
`04:47.35`	vid`	`most of my mods are working okay`
`04:47.35`	`Chase_`	`hola, anyone know what would be giving the BREAK_AURA notification when someone's debuff is removed?`
`04:47.38`	vid`	`sylv`
`04:47.43`	vid`	`new prat is nice`
`04:47.59`	`sylvanaar`	`glad you like`
`04:48.06`	`Chase_`	`aye, <3 Prat`
`04:48.16`	`xlvii`	`i've asked this already but uh..`
`04:48.23`	vid`	`anyway to get timestamps in hitsmode window?`
`04:48.25`	`Azurewrath`	`jup.. it ate my old savedvar.. but now it's great :)`
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`04:48.29`	`xlvii`	`how long should i wait before updating? i'm getting a heck of a lot of`
`04:48.29`	`xlvii`	`Error: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/24364'`
`04:48.29`	`xlvii`	`Error: No such revision 24364`
`04:48.32`	`xlvii`	`;_;`
`04:48.36`	vid`	`yea i think a lot of mods ate SV's`
`04:48.41`	vid`	`i lost all my bar positioning`
`04:48.56`	vid`	`took me like 45 mins jsut now in AV to set my aguf/BT3/etc back up :P`
`04:49.04`	`Chase_`	`anyone got an idea on the break aura stuff?`
`04:49.15`	`Azurewrath`	`oh.. sylvanaar there was a single thing i didn't like.. the name coloring makes "Player - Realm" out of "Player-Realm"`
`04:49.24`	vid`	`on the plus side`
`04:49.26`	vid`	`i picked up 30 FPS`
`04:49.38`	vid`	`so maybe there was a prob with some of the sv's slowing my game down? /shrug :P`
`04:51.47`	`Azurewrath`	`mhm... is svn2.wowace.com a bit outdated atm? Seems so..`
`04:52.09`	`Lenthan`	`still have a problem from an old Cartographer that I updated the TOC on`
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`04:53.49`	`sylvanaar`	`Azurewrath: yeah, i cant remember if i fixed it or not and why not`
`04:54.24`	`Azurewrath`	`well, it wasn't fixed like ~7 hours ago ;)`
`04:54.27`	`FatherJim`	`Kaelten - you around or busy?`
`04:54.51`	`Azurewrath`	`not that i'll die from that text format.. :)`
`04:55.13`	`pastamancer`	`sylvanaar: your branch is trunk now?`
`04:55.13`	`Chase_`	`anyone? =p cause of CHAT_MSG_SPELL_BREAK_AURA?`
`04:56.37`	`xlvii`	`Does anyone know of an RSS Reader that'll put the latest feeds on the desktop, in plain text? [amsg]`
`04:56.42`	`sylvanaar`	`pastamancer: yes`
`04:57.45`	vid`	`noo`
`04:57.46`	`pastamancer`	`sylvanaar: :)`
`04:57.46`	vid`	`my freerefills list got nuked`
`04:57.46`	`sylvanaar`	`Azurewrath: i think that i just didnt have time to finish it`
`04:57.46`	vid`	`damnit :P`
`04:57.46`	`DrZoot`	`is it just me or is the GetPlayerBuff function kinda dumb`
`04:58.01`	`sylvanaar`	`Azurewrath: i was asking if someone wanted to make a Server module or pvp module - then i did something else`
`04:58.37`	vid`	`nice!!`
`04:58.44`	vid`	`they increased limit on combat healing potions from 5 to 10`
`04:58.53`	vid`	`same with the mana pots`
`04:59.52`	`sylvanaar`	`If you have glorylib loaded it will put the server type pve pvp etc on also`
`05:00.22`	`sylvanaar`	`doing /dump doesn't work the same for me now`
`05:01.17`	`Velkyn`	`Anyone else having problems with any type of "quest" or "quest log" mod not showing quests?`
`05:01.36`	`Velkyn`	`When I run either ExtendedQuest or MonkeyQuest it shows my quests at 0/25`
`05:01.36`	`Chase_`	`yeah, EQL and uberquest are broken`
`05:01.43`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24365 10Prat/modules/ChatButtons.lua: Prat: buttons moduile good enough performance-wise now, and im sick of looking at it`
`05:01.45`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24366 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: No, the code was added by ag, I just updated it to show .castingTarget.`
`05:02.21`	`Velkyn`	`Sounds like Bliz changed something in how mods can get the info for quests..`
`05:02.23`	`SP\|Sorren`	`for some reason, speedfu shows me going at 400%+ speed in thunder bluff.`
`05:04.13`	`Kaelten`	`is anyone having a hard time reaching wowace?`
`05:04.17`	`Velkyn`	`Sorren: I have been getting crazy bugs with speed mods recently.`
`05:04.29`	`FatherJim`	`not really, Kaelten... but it's still 'disabled' I think`
`05:04.50`	`Kaelten`	`hrm, all the connections suddenly went away... I wonder if the datacenter did something.`
`05:04.56`	`Velkyn`	`Kael: Some of the updates for specific file updates like "cart" were giving me a hell of a time earlier.`
`05:05.03`	`FatherJim`	`I did have a question for you though. :)`
`05:05.33`	`sylvanaar`	vid`: did you notice the commit i made right before your question about hitmode
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`05:06.51`	`grennon`	`thank goodness the raid from hell is over so i can mod`
`05:07.05`	`grennon`	`we had to disband it halfway through and fly back to naxx on flask timers`
`05:07.25`	`Kaelten`	`renenabled the sites`
`05:07.42`	`FatherJim`	`Thanks, Kaelten. :) Stupid question for you though...`
`05:07.43`	`CIA-17`	`03nargiddley * r24367 10Baggins/: Baggins: Add AceHook to externals, for real this time`
`05:07.47`	`Kaelten`	`?`
`05:07.48`	vid`	`nope :P`
`05:07.57`	vid`	`i guess you added it`
`05:07.57`	vid`	`hehe`
`05:08.03`	`sylvanaar`	`Azurewrath: if you want to try changing the formatting, i can show you where the code is - it just a pain to have to be in a bg to test`
`05:08.17`	`Azurewrath`	`mhm.. strange.. svn7 is 2 revisions behind right now.. svn2 even more`
`05:08.25`	`Barbanus`	`Kaelten, I know you probably dont hear it much, especially on patch days, but some of us really appreciate all of the time you put into keeping the servers going, especially today.`
`05:08.31`	`FatherJim`	`The file download page... is there anything that specifically is going to enable the download of specific mods? I noticed mine disappeared from the zip download list.`
`05:08.36`	`grennon`	`Nargiddley: i dont suppose that at some point baggins will open a custom view when you open a mailframe that only shows mailable items?`
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`05:08.38`	`Azurewrath`	`sylvanaar: well.. i can try, but i'm not really good at coding`
`05:08.47`	`Hobinheim`	`i seek the oracle`
`05:08.55`	`Kaelten`	`FatherJim: there is a script that updates it`
`05:09.15`	`FatherJim`	`That's what I thought, but I'm not sure why it was on there like earlier today/yesterday, and gone now.`
`05:09.58`	`Kaelten`	`hrm see if it fixes next time.`
`05:10.17`	`FatherJim`	`next time? you mean next update?`
`05:10.51`	`sylvanaar`	`Azurewrath: for me its line 1000 of prat.lua s.sS = " - "`
`05:10.55`	`Nargiddley`	`grennon, how do you check if something is mailable ?`
`05:11.26`	`sylvanaar`	`Azurewrath: you can try taking the spaces out`
`05:11.29`	`Azurewrath`	`sylvanaar: Thanks, i'll see if i can do anything`
`05:11.57`	`grennon`	`the classic way is setting the tooltip to the item`
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`05:13.12`	`grennon`	`here is how gmail1 checked it`
`05:13.13`	`grennon`	`http://ace.pastey.net/4837`
`05:13.20`	`Kelben`	`anyone here that can help with aguf?`
`05:13.47`	`Kelben`	`our rogues are freaking out over the combo points being broken in aguf with the patch, I was wondering if there was any info I could provide them why this is happening`
`05:13.50`	`grennon`	`i think the new getcursoritem api might be better than tooltipping, im not sure yet though`
`05:13.53`	`DrZoot`	`hrmm, thats odd, why would my mod be giving a nil value error on the function RegisterDB() ?, im definatly using the AceDB mixin`
`05:13.54`	`Nargiddley`	`hm, tooltip scanning rules are possible. but take a relatively long time :/`
`05:14.04`	`Azurewrath`	`sylvanaar: gaah crap.. i forgot about the EU Servers still being down.. i'll try later then :/`
`05:14.13`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`FatherJim: ya, it should run again soon`
`05:14.21`	`FatherJim`	`Nargiddley - I always thought anything that wasn't soulbound or conjured could be mailed.`
`05:14.41`	`Nargiddley`	`FatherJim, yeah was hoping for a better way than tooltip scanning tho`
`05:14.56`	`grennon`	`i think they added a new way to do it in the patch today`
`05:14.58`	`Nargiddley`	`takes 10x longer than any other rule type to run`
`05:15.06`	`grennon`	`but ill have to re-read the notes`
`05:16.06`	`DrZoot`	`so has AceDB changed its api?`
`05:17.04`	`CIA-17`	`03drzoot * r24368 10/branches/Axon/ (. Axon.lua Axon.toc AxonBar.lua AxonProvider.lua):`
`05:17.04`	`CIA-17`	`Axon:`
`05:17.04`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated TOC, some other small changes`
`05:17.45`	`grennon`	`is the info in the item link?`
`05:18.31`	`Hobinheim`	`are there any coders bored and feeling charitable`
`05:19.40`	`Eternally777`	`Hobinheim: That depends on what you're about to ask :-P`
`05:19.55`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`FatherJim: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc`
`05:19.59`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`woops wrong link`
`05:20.12`	`Kaelten`	`FatherJim: http://www.wowace.com/files/ERRORS.txt`
`05:20.14`	`Kaelten`	`there we go`
`05:20.18`	`Kaelten`	`check there if it says any errors`
`05:20.24`	`Antiarc\|Home`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI25mLMwn4A`
`05:20.40`	`Hobinheim`	`Eternally777: i'm just... very slow with coding addons... i feel silly...`
`05:21.11`	`FatherJim`	`Yeah, still don't see "Loudmouth" in the list.`
`05:21.49`	`sylvanaar`	`does /dump not work for some of you?`
`05:22.20`	`sylvanaar`	`specifically /dump <some frame>`
`05:23.27`	`sylvanaar`	`i just get (tableXXXXXX)`
`05:23.40`	`bigzero`	`i made two functions for my addon. one of them goes through the settings table (this is on the savedvars list) and checks that all the elements provided in the settingsTemplate table are in this loaded table. Then another function goes through all the settings and checks that only elements in the settingsTemplate table are in the loaded settings table. Also this function checks that all the data types match. Is this a good idea`
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`05:24.48`	`Thorgard`	`Tuller, the keybindings are being mean.. they're working on one of my bars but not the other. :/`
`05:25.16`	`Tuller`	`Thorgard: yeah I've concluded I can't use the bindings attribute and am reverting systems`
`05:25.16`	`Antiarc\|Home`	`Hahahah`
`05:25.23`	`Antiarc\|Home`	`I pparently have 1575 illusion dust in the bank.`
`05:25.30`	`bigzero`	`lol`
`05:25.31`	`Tuller`	`Thorgard: they don't belive in updating reliably after being set :P`
`05:25.40`	`Thorgard`	`D'oh.`
`05:26.12`	`Barbanus`	`FatherJim "loudmouth: invalid external http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/CrayonLib/Crayon-2.0!"`
`05:26.26`	`Tuller`	`Thorgard: the theoretical good thing is that I've managed to keep the speed at lesat`
`05:26.32`	`Tuller`	`err at least`
`05:26.34`	`Baps`	`man, the newest bagnon isn't behaving tonight`
`05:26.40`	`FatherJim`	`Interesting... that wasn't there earliers.`
`05:26.50`	`Baps`	`makes me a sad panda`
`05:26.58`	`sylvanaar`	`man its hard to convince me to use crayon vs just copy/paste it in`
`05:27.04`	`Tuller`	`Baps: explain`
`05:27.14`	`Thorgard`	`Tuller, nice. ;)`
`05:27.41`	`Baps`	`tuller: as a warrior, it's having massive "addon blocked" hiding and setting and such to the buttons when I change stances in combat`
`05:27.41`	`Barbanus`	`FatherJim, the external should be http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/CrayonLib/Crayon-2.0`
`05:27.44`	`sylvanaar`	`its a nice design pattern though`
`05:27.55`	`FatherJim`	`Barnabus - yes, I know. I don't know how that got in there.`
`05:27.56`	`Baps`	`which causes at least a second of 'dead stop'`
`05:28.01`	`Tuller`	`Baps: that's not bagnon :)`
`05:28.03`	`FatherJim`	`It was working last I updated that.`
`05:28.04`	`Baps`	`which makes for dead warrior`
`05:28.13`	`Baps`	`I'm sorry, bongos`
`05:28.37`	`Baps`	`vbagnon_forever started complaining today as well, but I just turned it off since it wasn't working anyway`
`05:29.14`	`Tuller`	`Baps: bagnon was updated fairly shortly after 2.0.3 was released on the beta with fixes for the errors, and I never trust addon blocked messages mostly because you have to use another addon to get them :)`
`05:29.35`	`Baps`	`tuller: you mean bongos?`
`05:29.53`	`Barbanus`	`I dont trust blocked messages cause taint is such a fucked up thing to track :P`
`05:29.53`	`Baps`	`because the most recent vbagnon I can find is dated 12/14`
`05:29.55`	`Tuller`	`Baps: are you getting blizzard action blocked issues?`
`05:30.02`	`Baps`	`tuller: yes.`
`05:30.08`	`FatherJim`	`Commit failed. Why does this stupid ToirtoiseSVN refuse to commit the externals?`
`05:30.15`	`Baps`	`which bugsack is catching for me`
`05:30.17`	`CIA-17`	`03roartindon * r24369 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:`
`05:30.17`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames`
`05:30.18`	`CIA-17`	`Now only registers UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT for player`
`05:30.18`	`CIA-17`	`Also unregisters it`
`05:30.28`	`Baps`	`but it's causing massive lag`
`05:30.35`	`FatherJim`	`I've edited some files int eh directory, but I don't want to commit those yet.`
`05:30.35`	`Tuller`	`Baps: I bet you wont get them if you turn bugsack off :P`
`05:30.45`	`Tuller`	`Baps: and bagnon should have the fix`
`05:30.51`	`Tuller`	`Baps: the beta patch was a while ago`
`05:30.55`	`Baps`	`wait.`
`05:31.01`	`Baps`	`I'm having two separate issues.`
`05:31.14`	`Baps`	`bongos is causing lag when I change stances.`
`05:31.34`	`Baps`	`and vbagnon_forever started having errors after the patch today`
`05:31.35`	`Tuller`	`Baps: but its also generating a lot of error messages at the same time, right?`
`05:31.38`	`Baps`	`yes`
`05:31.47`	`Baps`	`it's also not remembering the scaling of bars`
`05:31.51`	`Tuller`	`Baps: I think the message output is the source of the lag`
`05:32.03`	`Tuller`	`Baps: and vbagnon's issue is fixed in 6.12.14`
`05:32.17`	`Baps`	`where can I get a vbagnon that's not a month old?`
`05:32.29`	`Tuller`	`Baps: the month old version is the fixed one :)`
`05:32.31`	`Hobinheim`	`is binding to onupdate a universally bad idea or is there a right way to do it?`
`05:32.45`	`Baps`	`the month old version is the one that started complaining today`
`05:33.34`	`FatherJim`	`This is complete crap that it won't commit the svn:externals on the folder, saying the damn thing is out of date.`
`05:34.02`	`Tuller`	`Baps: then that's weirder, what's the exact error?`
`05:34.12`	`Baps`	`I'll see if I can't get you a stack.. hold on`
`05:35.41`	`FatherJim`	`This i Bu\|\|$#!t`
`05:36.20`	`Baps`	`[2007/01/09 23:35:50-127-x1]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Bongos' tried to call the protected function 'BActionButton84:Show()'.`
`05:36.23`	`Baps`	`that's the stance change issue`
`05:36.24`	`Kemayo`	`I'm so glad agUF finally got built-in castbars.`
`05:37.23`	`Tuller`	`thanks`
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`05:38.23`	`sylvanaar`	`Barbanus: I hope your friend figured out what do do when he got the taint message from prat`
`05:38.55`	`Baps`	`[2007/01/09 23:38:14-128-x3]: vBagnon_Forever-6.12.4foreverStore.lua:74: ContainerIDToInventoryID(): invalid container ID`
`05:39.06`	`Baps`	`that's the vbagnon_forever problem that started today`
`05:39.17`	`Baps`	`I can give you full stacks for either if you'd like`
`05:39.35`	`Nickenyfiken`	`uhm http://www.nickenyfiken.com/JavaAceUpdater/JavaAceUpdater.jar anyone who needed it`
`05:39.48`	`Baps`	`although it looks like the bongos problem is a bad interaction with itemrack`
`05:40.08`	`Baps`	`now that I look closer at the stack.. but the previous version of bongos didn't have the problem`
`05:40.12`	`Tuller`	`baps, what are you doing to trigger the container id one, anything?`
`05:40.33`	`Baps`	`tuller: usually it's when I equip a weapon from my inventory`
`05:40.40`	`Baps`	`or unequip one`
`05:41.47`	`Tuller`	`unable to reproduce, hrm`
`05:42.51`	`CIA-17`	`03fatherjim * r24370 10loudmouth/ (Locale-enUS.lua loudmouth.lua loudmouth.xml):`
`05:42.51`	`CIA-17`	`loudmouth:`
`05:42.51`	`CIA-17`	`--TOC- Updated patch version to 2.00.03`
`05:42.51`	`CIA-17`	`-LUA- Completely updated the routines that handle QuoteEdit box updates for a more natural UI.`
`05:42.51`	`CIA-17`	`-LUA- Removed a lot of now worthless Debug statements.`
`05:42.51`	`CIA-17`	`-LUA- Completely rewrote the quote selection routines to accomodate restriction checking in the future.`
`05:43.35`	`Baps`	`http://ace.pastey.net/4838`
`05:43.42`	`Baps`	`there's the full stacks for the two errors`
`05:44.51`	`CIA-17`	`03fatherjim * r24371 10loudmouth/:`
`05:44.51`	`CIA-17`	`loudmouth:`
`05:44.51`	`CIA-17`	`-`
`05:44.57`	`FatherJim`	`Finally!`
`05:45.27`	`SP\|Sorren`	`hm?`
`05:46.09`	`FatherJim`	`Just having tons of problems getting my Addon in a 'clean' state. Something hosed my externals, then it refused to update.`
`05:46.25`	`Baps`	`what's the current toc number?`
`05:46.26`	`SP\|Sorren`	`:<`
`05:46.29`	`Baps`	`20300 ?`
`05:46.42`	`Hobinheim\|sleep`	`20003 i believe`
`05:46.45`	`FatherJim`	`20003`
`05:46.48`	`Hobinheim\|sleep`	`at least that's what bongos said`
`05:46.57`	`Hobinheim\|sleep`	`and i put it on wowwiki already =(`
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`05:48.54`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`05:49.04`	`FatherJim`	`hi ckknight`
`05:49.08`	`bigzero`	`hey`
`05:51.44`	`Kemayo`	`Hey ckknight, fix my AceComm complaint.`
`05:51.45`	`Kemayo`	`:D`
`05:51.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`Tuller: i was getting that ContainerIDToInventoryID() when i logged in`
`05:52.06`	`bigzero`	`is there a function to get the item cost when at a vendor? i can't find one. Do i have to get it from tooltip?`
`05:52.13`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo: you fix it.`
`05:52.15`	`Tuller`	`Arrowmaster: I swear I fixed that, at least i never get it and I friend I made update did not either`
`05:52.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`also got it the first time i went to bank after patch`
`05:53.32`	Random`	`could anybody tell me how to check you inventory for an item in a macro?`
`05:55.07`	`bigzero`	`loop through all slots, check if any of them match...`
`05:55.18`	`xlvii`	`is there anyway to define a uh.. server for the svn?`
`05:55.26`	`xlvii`	`because my addons will not update, at all.`
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`05:56.57`	`sylvanaar`	`ckknight: /dump changed behaviour too`
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`05:57.26`	`ckknight`	`sylvanaar: how so?`
`05:57.47`	`sylvanaar`	`do /dump <frame> get (table:xxxxx_`
`05:57.50`	`Shavi`	`Hey, is there a WoWAce beta/BC mod site like wowace.com/files is for 2.0 ?`
`05:57.55`	`CIA-17`	`03baps * r24372 10GridSideIndicators/GridSideIndicators.toc: GridSideIndicators: Update TOC for 2.0.3`
`05:58.14`	`Shavi`	`or will 2.0 mods work for BC?`
`05:58.38`	`SP\|Sorren`	`they should be exactly the same atm`
`05:59.17`	`sylvanaar`	`its just something about invoking int that form, because my code can still dump stuff`
`05:59.28`	`Shavi`	`thanks`
`05:59.37`	`Nargiddley`	`sylvanaar, /dump Minimap gives all the values in it for me`
`05:59.56`	`Kemayo`	`ckknight: I'll probably have to do something to the API to fix it, which is why I preferred to leave it to you. ;_;`
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`06:00.36`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`06:00.36`	`CIA-17`	`- Babble-Herbs-2.2: Add locale koKR`
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`06:05.17`	`DrZoot`	`how many debuff slots does a player have now? is it 16 or 32?`
`06:05.29`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I'm not sure on players.`
`06:05.41`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`We can apply up to 40 debuffs on mobs.`
`06:05.42`	`kebinusan`	`probably the same as mobs`
`06:05.43`	`kebinusan`	`40`
`06:05.54`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I don't really know why it'd be different . . .`
`06:06.01`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`but then again, you'd think it'd be hard to break /target.`
`06:07.15`	`DrZoot`	`how exactly did they break /target ?`
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`06:11.01`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`06:11.01`	`CIA-17`	`- Babble-Ore-2.2: Add locale koKR`
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`06:15.37`	`xlvii`	`Is there a way to define which server I want to download things from the SVN on? I'm using TortoiseSVN.`
`06:16.44`	`sylvanaar`	`Ok, must have been an ineraction with an addon, cause on another char it works fine`
`06:18.11`	`kebinusan`	`xlvii: edit windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts and set an ip of one of the svn mirrors with a hostname of svn.wowace.com`
`06:20.15`	`CIA-17`	`03laotseu * r24375 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.lua:`
`06:20.15`	`CIA-17`	`AllPlayed:`
`06:20.15`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed a problem with the XP calculation formula (real fix this time, I swear)`
`06:20.15`	`CIA-17`	`- Put max level back to 60 until such a time as BC is release and there is a way to know if the user has BC installed`
`06:20.46`	`CIA-17`	`03morgalm * r24376 10MorgDKP/BidQuery.lua:`
`06:20.46`	`CIA-17`	`MorgDKP:`
`06:20.46`	`CIA-17`	`-forgot to uncomment raidchecks in BidQuery.lua`
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`06:26.42`	`CIA-17`	`03karlthepagan * r24377 10Grouper/ (GrouperAce.lua GrouperCore.lua):`
`06:26.42`	`CIA-17`	`Grouper:`
`06:26.43`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:26.43`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:26.43`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:26.43`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:27.15`	`KarlThePagan`	`~seen Elkano`
`06:27.35`	`purl`	`elkano <n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-172.handshake.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 7h 29m 11s ago, saying: '\n I suppose'.`
`06:27.35`	`KarlThePagan`	`anyone interested in playing with grouper?`
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`06:35.49`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon 07Postal_Express * r24378 10Postal/Postal_Express.lua: Postal_Express.lua: Remove deprecated var from purgemail call`
`06:36.55`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r24379 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2.lua:`
`06:36.55`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`06:36.55`	`CIA-17`	`- updated locale koKR`
`06:37.55`	`pastamancer`	`cynyr: I have no idea what you're talking about`
`06:37.58`	`CIA-17`	`03nirek * r24380 10Nvp/ (Nvp.lua Nvp.toc): Nvp: Fix handaxe, change toc`
`06:39.39`	`Thorgard`	`cynyr, Grid's working good for me.`
`06:39.53`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r24381 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua:`
`06:39.53`	`CIA-17`	`Cartographer_Fishing :`
`06:39.53`	`CIA-17`	`- Update locale koKR`
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`06:44.58`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon 07Postal_OpenAll * r24382 10Postal/Postal_OpenAll.lua: Postal: OpenAll module leaned up some`
`06:47.10`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r24383 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2.lua:`
`06:47.10`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`06:47.10`	`CIA-17`	`- Babble-Fish-2.2: Add locale koKR`
`06:49.31`	`pastamancer`	`KarlThePagan: need testers?`
`06:49.43`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea pasta`
`06:49.48`	`pastamancer`	`what server?`
`06:49.59`	`pastamancer`	`or does it not matter`
`06:50.04`	`KarlThePagan`	`it's solo testing atm`
`06:50.07`	`pastamancer`	`ah`
`06:50.08`	`KarlThePagan`	`there's no auto-join`
`06:50.24`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon 07Postal_OpenAll * r24384 10Postal/Postal_OpenAll.lua: Postal: OpenAll: One line fix.`
`06:50.48`	`KarlThePagan`	`current issues include sometimes a mismatch between the category and objective counts in the browser`
`06:51.04`	`KarlThePagan`	`both are based on unique player names seen`
`06:51.13`	`KarlThePagan`	`but sometimes a few more show up in the category`
`06:51.36`	`KarlThePagan`	`also i just implemented the LFG profiles`
`06:51.47`	`KarlThePagan`	`they're mostly cosmetic at the moment`
`06:51.54`	`KarlThePagan`	`also looking for interface feedback ;)`
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`06:52.22`	`CIA-17`	`03antiarc 072.0.3-drycode * r24385 10Sanity2/Sanity2/ (4 files): Sanity2: Made fixes to drycode. Fixed a couple of bugs. Optimized bag scanning is now in; Sanity is much less of a system hog now. More improvements to be made yet though.`
`06:52.57`	`Dhraga`	`A Sleepy morning all`
`06:53.19`	`Azurewrath`	`grennon: is Postal in any state you'd call usable? :)`
`06:53.30`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r24386 10AutoBar/ (AutoBar.toc AutoBarProfile.lua Core.lua):`
`06:53.30`	`CIA-17`	`AutoBar:`
`06:53.30`	`CIA-17`	`-- TOC fix`
`06:53.30`	`CIA-17`	`-- Possibly fixed right click to feed pet.`
`06:53.30`	`CIA-17`	`-- Fixed alpha of standalone icon for spell casts (mounts etc.)`
`06:53.41`	`ashke`	`heh`
`06:53.43`	`ashke`	`possibly fixed`
`06:53.43`	`KarlThePagan`	`another major issue is that blizzard gave us a wonderful mismatch between some instance names and the actual instance zone name :/`
`06:53.46`	`grennon`	`maybe when im done committing changes tonight`
`06:53.59`	`Azurewrath`	`hehe, ok`
`06:54.02`	`grennon`	`i need to commit the latest postallib and i think i got Postal_Select working`
`06:54.24`	`grennon`	`the big thing is, DejuVu+Exress I think will people will like a lot vs bulkmail guis`
`06:54.27`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r24387 10AutoBarConfig/AutoBarConfig.toc:`
`06:54.27`	`CIA-17`	`AutoBarConfig:`
`06:54.27`	`CIA-17`	`-TOC`
`06:54.35`	`grennon`	`and those two modules work fine`
`06:54.43`	`CIA-17`	`03pastamancer * r24388 10Grid/ (Grid.toc GridFrame.lua): Grid: Updated toc for 2.0.3, reload layout after changing frame width/height.`
`06:56.07`	`Dekuna`	`grennon: is there a version of Postal available yet?`
`06:56.35`	`ilifin`	`what is Postal, is it a replacement for gmail?`
`06:57.13`	`Azurewrath`	`you both might want to read the contents of http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Postal/`
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`07:08.49`	`grennon`	`oh wow`
`07:09.01`	`grennon`	`i just got Open/Return selected in Postal_Select`
`07:11.48`	`CIA-17`	`03arkayenro * r24389 10ArkInventory/ (ArkInventory.lua ArkInventory.toc):`
`07:11.48`	`CIA-17`	`ArkInventory:`
`07:11.48`	`CIA-17`	`- v.130 beta 2007-01-10-11-00`
`07:11.51`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon 07PostalLib * r24390 10Postal/PostalLib-1.0.lua: Postal: PostalLib: Leaned up the code, added a delay after manual mail deletes, updated calls`
`07:12.10`	`ashke`	`i wish i could lean up my code`
`07:13.16`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24391 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Use "-" to separate the player-server not " - ". Not sure the reason i had it as " - "`
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`07:15.54`	`Dhraga`	`So are the us servers back up and working as they should ?`
`07:16.04`	`sylvanaar`	`im sure i have a baf rep for testing prat in av`
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`07:17.36`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24392 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Hidden change in that last commit - back it out.`
`07:19.09`	`pastamancer`	`sylvanaar: I test Grid all the time in AV`
`07:19.26`	`FatherJim`	`Dhraga - I'm on Blackhand and been just fine`
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`07:19.46`	`pastamancer`	`Dhraga: I added a layout reload after changing the frame size`
`07:20.33`	`Dhraga`	`Pastamancer, sweet I'll give it a testrun after work when the eu servers are back up`
`07:20.50`	`Dhraga`	`FatherJim, there havent been any problems after this patch then ?`
`07:21.14`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`As far as server stability? no`
`07:21.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Though there's lots of reports of problems with raids. :P`
`07:21.45`	`Dhraga`	`nhts, what kind of problems mate ?`
`07:21.56`	`FatherJim`	`yes, I've been kicked out 3 or 4 times because the World Server went down, but it always was back up in like 2 minutes or less.`
`07:21.57`	`Dekuna`	`nevcairiel: ping`
`07:22.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`well, blackhand isnt exactly the smallest or most stable server in the world :P`
`07:22.26`	`Dhraga`	`lol`
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`07:23.32`	`Dhraga`	`btw, did they include the petframes into the secure code this patch ?`
`07:23.39`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i haven't seen any stability problems on servers i'm on shrug But Dhraga, from what I hear, there's problems with promoting/kicking people in raids`
`07:23.55`	`Dhraga`	`nhts, ah ok`
`07:24.21`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`stuff like kicking a random person instead of who you wanted, same with promoting`
`07:24.47`	`Dhraga`	`LOL... that adds a bit of flavor to the raiding :P`
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`07:26.30`	`grennon`	`if it werent for my dilemma about PostalLib, id commit this to trunk`
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`07:26.52`	Funkeh`	`good morning`
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`07:27.40`	`pastamancer`	`Dhraga: kinda`
`07:28.14`	`Dhraga`	morning Funkeh`
`07:28.14`	`Nickenyfiken`	`grennon: what dilemma?`
`07:28.17`	`Nickenyfiken`	`morrn morrn`
`07:28.18`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r24393 10/branches/Postal/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Postal: Postal_Select trunk prep`
`07:28.48`	`grennon`	`i have an internal lib i use with mail functions in it`
`07:28.51`	`grennon`	`PostalLib`
`07:29.00`	`grennon`	`but i invoke it as an ace library`
`07:29.09`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yeah`
`07:29.36`	`Nickenyfiken`	`why is it a problem then?`
`07:29.57`	`grennon`	`local lib = AceLibrary("Postal-1.0")`
`07:30.02`	`grennon`	`in a mod called Postal`
`07:30.12`	`grennon`	`isnt that just a tad funky?`
`07:30.27`	`grennon`	`since its purely internal right now, I invoke it as PostalLib-1.0`
`07:31.44`	`Nickenyfiken`	`you mean it's pointless to have it as a library at all?`
`07:32.07`	`grennon`	`the express, openall, select submods all invoke it`
`07:32.25`	`Dhraga`	`A question (I'm wondering if I have any addon that causes this snag), have anyone noticed anything with the tooltips in Fubar, latley I have had trouble when using 2 fubars at the top. When hoovering over the top of the 2 panels to get the tooltip for the plugin I'm having trouble to move my mouse onto the tooltip wihtout activating the seccond fubar panels plugin, It's like there are a...`
`07:32.26`	`Dhraga`	`...small gap between the tooltip and the active panel wich lets the next panel interfere.`
`07:32.41`	`Dhraga`	`omg, that was a long text`
`07:32.47`	`CIA-17`	`03nickenyfiken * r24394 10FuBar_TrainerFu/FuBar_TrainerFu.toc: FuBar_TrainerFu: TOC update`
`07:32.55`	`pastamancer`	`grennon: nah, local PL = AceLibrary("Postal-1.0") looks just fine`
`07:33.29`	`pastamancer`	`grennon: or you could rename the lib Postage or something`
`07:33.48`	`grennon`	`Posthoc`
`07:34.00`	`grennon`	`Postmix`
`07:34.22`	`pastamancer`	`PostHaste`
`07:34.25`	`Nickenyfiken`	`PostWhore`
`07:34.30`	`Nickenyfiken`	`oh sorry im tired :-P`
`07:34.40`	`grennon`	`Postmodern`
`07:34.47`	`Nickenyfiken`	`haha`
`07:34.50`	Funkeh`	`no wait`
`07:34.54`	Funkeh`	`Postal!`
`07:35.04`	`Nickenyfiken`	`lol omg thats a good one!`
`07:35.11`	Funkeh`	`;)`
`07:35.31`	`grennon`	`f it, im going to copy it to trunk just to get some testing done`
`07:36.11`	Funkeh`	`if by testing you mean some people whining on the forums that it don't work then you chose correct`
`07:36.20`	`sylvanaar`	`oh god`
`07:36.37`	`grennon`	`hey, at least it doesnt eat items out of mails`
`07:37.01`	`Nickenyfiken`	`lol`
`07:37.05`	`Nickenyfiken`	`like the other addon`
`07:37.14`	`Nickenyfiken`	`im so glad i never tried it`
`07:37.17`	`sylvanaar`	`trunk is the only place it'll get tested because of the updater`
`07:37.25`	Funkeh`	`so true`
`07:37.47`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i can test it but i cant update anything from the SVN right now`
`07:37.51`	`Nickenyfiken`	`just getting errors`
`07:38.15`	`sylvanaar`	`just need to be able to specify more than one zip as an option (alpha, beta, dev)`
`07:39.19`	`Nickenyfiken`	`http://www.wowace.com/files/branch/ would be nice`
`07:39.30`	`grennon`	`maaaan, you dont want that`
`07:39.44`	`grennon`	`its like debian users that run sid and then bitch when glibc breaks`
`07:39.55`	`sylvanaar`	`[B][Wonder-Kilrogg(E)]: inc from mines again[B][Dessy]: all in peoples[B][Nitestawker-Tichondrius(P)]: nice heals`
`07:40.21`	`sylvanaar`	`what'cha think of that as standard format`
`07:40.35`	`Nickenyfiken`	`lol got 1025 changelog files in my addon dir`
`07:40.41`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yeah maybe`
`07:41.44`	`sylvanaar`	`If anyone wasnts to offer an abbreviation algorithm or table - im all ears`
`07:44.11`	`Tekkub`	`burp`
`07:44.26`	`Dhraga`	`lol tek`
`07:46.41`	`Daemona`	`wow, judging from the wow blue tracker, blizz royally screwed up interface/macro stuff in 2.0.3? ^^`
`07:49.07`	`Sparhawke`	`yes`
`07:49.08`	`Nickenyfiken`	`well they screw up something in every patch`
`07:49.57`	`CIA-17`	`03karlthepagan * r24395 10Grouper/ (GrouperAce.lua GrouperCore.lua):`
`07:49.57`	`CIA-17`	`Grouper:`
`07:49.57`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:49.57`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:50.22`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Sometimes i wonder how many of these "screw ups" are fully known internally, but pushed out anyway to get the content out on time.`
`07:50.42`	`FatherJim`	`I have a question... Does anyone know if OnDisable is called when logging out?`
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`07:51.08`	`CIA-17`	`03antiarc * r24396 10Sanity2/ (9 files): Sanity2: 2.0.3 branch merged. Extensive performance enhancements. Might require a Sanity DB clear (Advanced Options -> Reset DB) if things go funky - the backend has changed.`
`07:51.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I don't -think- so, but honestly I don't know for certain.`
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`07:51.26`	`Silviu--`	`seen CIA-17`
`07:51.30`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Antiarc: yay! performance!`
`07:51.34`	`mjc_`	`sanity?`
`07:51.43`	`Antiar1`	`:D`
`07:51.48`	`Silviu--`	`~seen CIA-17`
`07:52.19`	`purl`	`cia-17 is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 835 messages. Is idling for 1m 11s, last said: '03antiarc * r24396 10Sanity2/ (9 files): Sanity2: 2.0.3 branch merged. Extensive performance enhancements. Might require a Sanity DB clear (Advanced Options -> Reset DB) if things go funky - the backend has changed.'.`
`07:52.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Sanity is overrated. ;)`
`07:52.19`	`Antiar1`	`Of note, I'm limiting my bag scans to only affected bags now, and multiple refreshes and "batched" for lack of a better word with AceEvent.`
`07:52.46`	`grennon`	`.toc changes are read now on reloads of UI?`
`07:52.53`	`Antiar1`	`Also, I forgot it in the commit message...but that includes mailbox item links, too`
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`07:53.08`	`grennon`	`wait no they arent, i forgot to exit after commenting a line out`
`07:53.10`	`Antiar1`	`So you hover over an item in Sanity that is in your mailbox and you get full links and the like.`
`07:54.08`	`Antiar1`	`Still a few minor kinks to work out, but I'm happy with where it's at tonight :D`
`07:54.18`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Antiar1: nice`
`07:54.24`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i love Sanity2`
`07:54.45`	`FatherJim`	`Sanity sucks. ;)`
`07:54.58`	`FatherJim`	`:-D`
`07:55.01`	`\|Kev\|`	`you mean 'sanity sucks, Sanity is nice'? :)`
`07:55.17`	`\|Kev\|`	`I only found Sanity the other day, and I confess that I love it`
`07:55.34`	`krka`	`what is sanity?`
`07:55.42`	`FatherJim`	`Oh, I'm just teasing antiarc. :)`
`07:55.51`	`Antiar1`	`grin`
`07:55.52`	`\|Kev\|`	`it's a searchable bank/bag/mail/etc catalogue`
`07:56.08`	`krka`	`i see`
`07:56.17`	`Antiar1`	`Sanity's an inventory mod. List view of your bags/bank/mailbox/things you're wearing, and you can search it, sort it, categorize it any number of ways.`
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`07:56.28`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I could never get used to Sanity, really. I prefer EngInv/ArkInventory, but that's just me.`
`07:56.33`	`FatherJim`	`not just that, but you can look at the bags/banks for all other toons.`
`07:56.33`	`Antiar1`	`It also tells you which of your alts has how many of an item in item tooltips`
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`07:56.40`	`Antiar1`	`Sanity's not really meant to be a replacement for Eng/Ark`
`07:56.42`	`\|Kev\|`	`terribly useful if you're collecting mats across multiple chars for jewelcrafting :)`
`07:56.42`	`FatherJim`	`I LOVE the tooltip notes there!`
`07:56.43`	`Antiar1`	`It's more of a complement.`
`07:56.54`	`Nargiddley`	`I end up using sanity with another bag mod`
`07:56.56`	`\|Kev\|`	`I don't know what Eng/Ark are, please enlighten me`
`07:56.56`	`Antiar1`	`I certainly wouldn't use it as my only inventory mod.`
`07:57.05`	`\|Kev\|`	`I use it with One(.*)`
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`07:57.14`	`pastamancer`	`sanity is google for your inventory/bank :p`
`07:57.14`	`Nargiddley`	`which is why i'm in no rush to add saving alts items etc to baggins`
`07:57.16`	`Antiar1`	`EngInventory and ArkInventory are bag mods that do fancy clumping of like items.`
`07:57.17`	`Silviu--`	`\|Kev\| Arkinventory`
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`07:57.23`	`\|Kev\|`	`ah, thanks`
`07:57.28`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yeah i could use Sanity just for the item count tooltip`
`07:57.33`	`xlvii`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:57.40`	`Nickenyfiken`	`thats the best feat in my opinion`
`07:57.41`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`They do xlvii`
`07:57.44`	`Antiar1`	`They do, multiplicatively.`
`07:57.52`	`\|Kev\|`	`Nickenyfiken: yes, tremendously useful`
`07:57.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Along with other haste effects`
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`07:58.02`	`Antiar1`	`And I need to go to bed, so direct any questions, flames, or bug reports to the Sanity thread on the forums. :D`
`07:58.07`	`Antiar1`	`Night folks.`
`07:58.09`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`But yeah, like i said, nothing against Sanity, I just could never get used to it :)`
`07:58.11`	`\|Kev\|`	`although it seems to tell you that in tooltips, but not in the clicked boxes`
`07:58.21`	`\|Kev\|`	`which is a shame, I guess those are blizz-protected or such`
`07:58.25`	`\|Kev\|`	`shrug`
`07:58.31`	`\|Kev\|`	`nn Antiar1`
`07:58.50`	`Nickenyfiken`	`NightHawkTheSane: i dont use it as a replacement for bags... just as an addition to find stuff and know how many i got across chars and stuff like that`
`07:58.59`	`Nickenyfiken`	`use onebag/bank too`
`07:59.32`	`\|Kev\|`	`I really want tbc so I can start gathering auctioneer data again`
`07:59.48`	`\|Kev\|`	`the market atm is shot`
`08:00.30`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Nickenyfiken, yeah, the item counts across characters is nice. Bagnon had that at one point too, which I miss. As for finding things, For me it's much easier to visually locate something with a well set up ArkInventory`
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`08:00.55`	`\|Kev\|`	`is ark across chars too?`
`08:01.09`	`Nickenyfiken`	`no all chars at the same time`
`08:01.14`	`Nickenyfiken`	`you have to pick one`
`08:01.21`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah, i can view other toon's banks/bags, but it doesnt say "so and so has x of this item"`
`08:01.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`or similar`
`08:01.48`	`\|Kev\|`	`ah ok, sanity is probably closer to my needs then :)`
`08:02.28`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i want the crafting/enchanting frame to be aware of all characters items + bank items using sanity data`
`08:03.29`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Hm, that reminds me, I need to reinstall manufac`
`08:04.11`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yeah manufac is nice. having a bit of trouble getting used to it`
`08:04.35`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah, it took a lot of getting used to. the addition of "Can Make" was really nice though.`
`08:04.57`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I just loath blizzard's default ui, its so hard to find what i want to make.`
`08:05.27`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yeah`
`08:05.45`	`Nickenyfiken`	`it should atleast filter what you can do or not`
`08:06.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah, or at least have some sane sorting options`
`08:10.37`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon 07Postal_Forward * r24397 10Postal/Postal_Forward.lua: Postal: Forward: Code cleanups, bugfixes`
`08:11.43`	`grennon`	`so, whats the best way to move from branch to trunk?`
`08:11.49`	`grennon`	`svn relocate?`
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`08:12.56`	`ckknight`	`really, it'd probably be easier to delete and recheckout`
`08:13.17`	`grennon`	`elaborate?`
`08:13.30`	Funkeh`	`kek`
`08:13.46`	`beerke`	`bah man this vanguard game is weird`
`08:13.48`	`ckknight`	`what's to elaborate on?`
`08:14.55`	Funkeh`	`any US people can guarantee toc is 20003 btw? you have logged in and it doesn't say out of date?`
`08:15.16`	`evl`	`it's guaranteed`
`08:15.20`	Funkeh`	`ok`
`08:15.34`	`evl`	`people don't perform ~50 commits to various addons if they ain't sure :)`
`08:15.45`	Funkeh`	`hehe you would think`
`08:15.46`	`Tekkub`	`you sure of that?`
`08:15.50`	Funkeh`	`:p`
`08:15.56`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r24398 10/branches/Postal/: Removed file/folder`
`08:16.03`	`grennon`	`alright, did that part`
`08:16.15`	`Tekkub`	`UI lockdown happens right after PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED right?`
`08:16.20`	Funkeh`	`im bored so im gonna spam with toc updates for my remaining addons`
`08:16.36`	`grennon`	`ckknight: pardon me but im a tortoise svn noob`
`08:16.48`	`grennon`	`i used to use rsync to sync kernel trees`
`08:16.51`	`ckknight`	`so read the tutorial, look at the manual`
`08:16.56`	`grennon`	`those whole version management scares me`
`08:17.50`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24399 10ViewAddonMessage/ViewAddonMessage.toc: ViewAddonMessage: toc 20003`
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`08:18.20`	`xlvii`	`http://img.4chan.org/b/res/18780928.html < legendary! new iPhone`
`08:18.47`	`ckknight`	`child beauty contests are so fucked up.`
`08:18.53`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24400 10Transcriptor/Transcriptor.toc: Transcriptor: toc 20003`
`08:19.13`	Funkeh`	`but i feel special ckknight`
`08:19.41`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24401 10TipLib/TipLib.toc: TipLib: toc 20003`
`08:20.05`	`chuckg_`	`Anyone know what's going on w/ combo points and the latest agUF?`
`08:20.10`	`grennon`	`did you mean, export, delete, reimport, checkout ckknight?`
`08:20.10`	`chuckg_`	`Doesn't seem to be working for druids.`
`08:20.48`	`ckknight`	`export?`
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`08:20.50`	`ckknight`	`import?`
`08:20.54`	`ckknight`	`just delete and checkout`
`08:20.55`	`ckknight`	`bam`
`08:21.11`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24402 10TinyTipOptions/TinyTipOptions.toc: TinyTipOptions: toc 20003`
`08:21.44`	`grennon`	`(2:15:56 AM) CIA-17: grennon * r24398 /branches/Postal/: Removed file/folder`
`08:21.50`	`grennon`	`i take it you meant the local copy`
`08:21.56`	`ckknight`	`yes.`
`08:21.58`	`grennon`	`:-)`
`08:22.01`	`ckknight`	`I thought that's what you meant.`
`08:22.09`	`ckknight`	`what you do is branch to trunk`
`08:22.15`	`Adirelle`	`ccknight : what do you think of frame recycling ? think about an addon using a variable number of frames for rendering`
`08:22.16`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24403 10TinyTipExtras/TinyTipExtras.toc: TinyTipExtras: toc 20003`
`08:22.30`	`ckknight`	`Adirelle: spell my name correctly`
`08:22.45`	`Adirelle`	`sry`
`08:22.51`	`ckknight`	`Adirelle: Dewdrop does that, so does Tablet`
`08:22.52`	`ckknight`	`etc`
`08:22.57`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24404 10TinyTip/TinyTip.toc: TinyTip: toc 20003`
`08:23.41`	`Adirelle`	`ckknight : any lib that would help to do so ? (granted each addon will have its own "frame pools" to avoid a big mess)`
`08:24.12`	`pastamancer`	`Adirelle: it's really simple`
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`08:24.34`	`pastamancer`	`you just keep a table of unused frames and try to get a frame out of that, if not create a new one`
`08:24.42`	`Adirelle`	`pastamancer: I know, but I'm so lazy or maybe :)`
`08:24.42`	`pastamancer`	`no need for a lib`
`08:24.51`	`pastamancer`	`it's seriously 10 lines of code`
`08:24.55`	`Adirelle`	`s/maybe/maybe I have the make-all-a-lib syndrom/`
`08:25.00`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24405 10TouristLib/TouristLib.toc: TouristLib: toc 20003`
`08:25.09`	`ckknight`	thanks, Funkeh`
`08:25.14`	Funkeh`	`<3`
`08:26.42`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24406 10TabletLib/TabletLib.toc: TabletLib: toc 20003`
`08:27.27`	`Adirelle`	`btw, could frames get recycled ? or does the Blizzard UI always keep at least a ref on it ?`
`08:27.50`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24407 10SurfaceLib/SurfaceLib.toc: SurfaceLib: toc 20003`
`08:27.56`	`Adirelle`	`s/recycled/garbage collected/`
`08:27.59`	Funkeh`	`if its not 20003 im so gonna kill`
`08:28.14`	`ckknight`	`it is.`
`08:28.16`	`bigzero`	`lol`
`08:28.18`	`pastamancer`	`frames are't GC'd`
`08:28.18`	`ckknight`	`I've seen Blizz's TOC`
`08:28.22`	`ckknight`	`I pointed it out to people`
`08:28.24`	Funkeh`	`ok cool`
`08:28.51`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r24408 10Postal/ (20 files in 10 dirs): Postal: initial commit`
`08:29.16`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24409 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEventsEmbed.toc: SpecialEventsEmbed: toc 20003`
`08:29.23`	`Adirelle`	`~x fr en dérangement`
`08:29.37`	`Adirelle`	`pastamancer: oki, sry for the disturbance then, this discussion was pointless`
`08:29.58`	`Nickenyfiken`	`grennon: promise it wont send all my items to your toons? :-P`
`08:30.44`	`ckknight`	`well, Little Miss Sunshine was a cute movie`
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`08:30.47`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24410 10SimpleCombatLog/SimpleCombatLog.toc: SimpleCombatLog: toc 20003`
`08:30.51`	`ckknight`	`nothing spectacular, though.`
`08:30.57`	`grennon`	`ckknight: i liked it, it was mostly harmless`
`08:30.58`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r24411 10Postal/: Postal: -add externals since im a nub who didnt branch to trunk`
`08:31.34`	`grennon`	`Nickenyfiken: only if you play on argent dawn`
`08:31.48`	`Nickenyfiken`	`oh, im safe then`
`08:32.18`	`bigzero`	`can variables declared as local in .lua be seen in .xml?`
`08:33.05`	`CIA-17`	`03annihilation * r24412 10FuBar_CheckStoneFu/FuBar_CheckStoneFu.toc:`
`08:33.05`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_CheckStoneFu:`
`08:33.05`	`CIA-17`	`- Update toc to 20003`
`08:33.06`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24413 10Skinner/Skinner.toc: Skinner: toc 20003`
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`08:35.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`oh, neat, you can finally talk to npcs in shapeshift/ghost wolf form`
`08:36.01`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24415 10RosterLib/RosterLib.toc: RosterLib: toc 20003`
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`08:37.12`	`Dekuna`	`nevcairiel: ping`
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`08:38.05`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r24417 10Postal/Postal_Forward/Postal_Forward.lua: Postal: -Postal_Forward.lua check events before trying to unregister them`
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`08:50.12`	`Azurewrath`	`mhm... what monthly traffic do you guys have in average?`
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`08:51.47`	`CIA-17`	`03elkano * r24425 10bags_and_merchants/bags_and_merchants.toc:`
`08:51.47`	`CIA-17`	`bags_and_merchants`
`08:51.47`	`CIA-17`	`- updated TOC to 20003`
`08:52.46`	`CIA-17`	`03elkano * r24426 10FramesResized/ (FramesResized.lua FramesResized.toc):`
`08:52.47`	`CIA-17`	`FramesResized`
`08:52.47`	`CIA-17`	`- updated TOC to 20003`
`08:52.47`	`CIA-17`	`- removed some WoW 1.x code`
`08:54.10`	`CIA-17`	`03elkano * r24427 10ElkBuffBar/ (ElkBuffBar.lua ElkBuffBar.toc):`
`08:54.10`	`CIA-17`	`ElkBuffBar`
`08:54.10`	`CIA-17`	`- updated TOC to 20003`
`08:54.10`	`CIA-17`	`- tweaked tench name detection`
`08:54.55`	`*** join/#wowace abbat_w (i=abbat@moo.efnet.org)`
`08:54.59`	`abbat_w`	`morning guys`
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`08:55.32`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24428 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (4 files):`
`08:55.32`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_PerformanceFu:`
`08:55.32`	`CIA-17`	`toc 20003`
`08:55.32`	`CIA-17`	`UTF-8 with signature encoding`
`08:55.32`	`CIA-17`	`hopefully restored koKR and zhTW toc notes`
`08:57.25`	`Tovort`	`are there any common addons (like ag_uf or ora2) that are known to be broken by the patch?`
`08:57.32`	`CIA-17`	`03elkano * r24429 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBBTest.lua EBB_Bar.lua EBB_BarGroup.lua ElkBuffBars.toc):`
`08:57.32`	`CIA-17`	`ElkBuffBars`
`08:57.32`	`CIA-17`	`- updated TOC to 20003`
`08:57.32`	`CIA-17`	`- made it LoD for now since it's still in coding and not inteded for use`
`08:57.32`	`CIA-17`	`- let's hope notes show up on wowace this time :/`
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`08:58.37`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24430 10FuBar/ (4 files): FuBar: toc 20003, UTF-8 love`
`08:58.41`	`Srosh`	`mornin'`
`08:59.02`	`*** part/#wowace Bver__ (n=Bver@cpe-72-225-58-75.rochester.res.rr.com)`
`08:59.23`	`CIA-17`	`03elkano * r24431 10FuBar_FactionsFu/ (FuBar_FactionsFu.options.lua FuBar_FactionsFu.toc):`
`08:59.23`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_FactionsFu`
`08:59.23`	`CIA-17`	`- updated TOC to 20003`
`08:59.23`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed hiding of text (unintentionally overwriting parts of FuBar's option table is bad ;) )`
`08:59.33`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24432 10DewdropLib/DewdropLib.toc: DewdropLib: toc 20003`
`08:59.58`	`bigzero`	`what's the advantage of using ipairs over pairs? does pairs return key as a string all the time?`
`09:00.39`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24433 10Deformat/Deformat.toc: Deformat: toc 20003`
`09:00.41`	`krka`	`they do different things`
`09:00.42`	`Nargiddley`	`ipairs iterates over integer keys, starting at 1 ending at the first one that doesnt exist`
`09:01.07`	`krka`	`ipairs just iterates from 1 and up until it finds an integer with a matching nil value`
`09:01.11`	`Nargiddley`	`pairs iterates over every key in no guaranteed order`
`09:01.24`	`CIA-17`	`03elkano * r24434 10FuBar_ItemListFu/ (FuBar_ItemListFu.lua FuBar_ItemListFu.toc libs/):`
`09:01.24`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_ItemListFu`
`09:01.24`	`CIA-17`	`- updated TOC to 20003`
`09:01.24`	`CIA-17`	`- some small tweaks`
`09:01.24`	`CIA-17`	`- adding externals (part 1)`
`09:02.03`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24435 10cyCircled/cyCircled.toc: cyCircled: toc 20003`
`09:02.48`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24436 10cyCircled/locale/ (koKR.lua zhCN.lua zhTW.lua): cyCircled: UTF-8 love`
`09:02.58`	`anenigma`	`is there a good ace-based quest tracker?`
`09:03.03`	`bigzero`	`ok, was really thinking ony about the table i'm using right now...which is a numbered table only of consecutive numbers, so I couldn't figure out the point of ipairs.....it's late, lol. i should go to sleep`
`09:03.10`	`CIA-17`	`03elkano * r24437 10FuBar_ItemListFu/libs/:`
`09:03.10`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_ItemListFu`
`09:03.11`	`CIA-17`	`- adding externals (part 2)`
`09:03.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`anenigma, FuBar_QuestFu`
`09:03.24`	`anenigma`	`ta`
`09:03.34`	`krka`	`ipairs guarantees correct integer order, pairs does not`
`09:03.43`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24438 10CrayonLib/CrayonLib.toc: CrayonLib: toc 20003`
`09:04.05`	`jjb`	`why i cant checkout any ace-libs anymore?`
`09:04.17`	`CIA-17`	`03elkano * r24440 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFu.toc:`
`09:04.17`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_GuildFu`
`09:04.17`	`CIA-17`	`- updated TOC to 20003`
`09:04.18`	`CIA-17`	`03elkano * r24439 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFu.toc:`
`09:04.18`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_FriendsFu`
`09:04.18`	`CIA-17`	`- updated TOC to 20003`
`09:04.32`	`bigzero`	`yeah, i get it now. again, really not thinking straght right now :-). ok, no more stupd questions from me...for today`
`09:04.47`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24441 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.toc: ClosetGnome: toc 20003`
`09:06.00`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24442 10Capping/Capping.toc: Capping: toc 20003`
`09:06.24`	`sylvanaar`	`funky youslowpoke`
`09:06.32`	Funkeh`	`:(`
`09:06.54`	`sylvanaar`	`you should be to the fu's already`
`09:07.12`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24443 10CandyBar/CandyBar.toc: CandyBar: toc 20003`
`09:07.13`	`xlvii`	`http://digg.com/apple/How_much_do_you_want_an_iPhone`
`09:07.25`	`bigzero`	`don't you guys have a script for this?`
`09:07.33`	`CIA-17`	`03Skycatcher * r24444 10Visor2/BTooltip.xml: Visor2: - Updated BTooltip.xml to fix the SetOwner error.`
`09:07.46`	`sylvanaar`	`it probably doesnt spam - so its no fun`
`09:08.24`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24445 10Bartender3/Bartender3.toc: Bartender3: toc 20003`
`09:08.32`	`bigzero`	`spam ftw`
`09:08.33`	`anenigma`	`is Tuller in here?`
`09:09.03`	`Adirelle`	`Nargiddley : I'm working on section layout in baggins, in order to save space, and I have 2 alternatives`
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`09:09.20`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`~seen Tuller`
`09:09.47`	`purl`	`tuller <n=chatzill@c-68-57-185-39.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 17m 32s ago, saying: 'Arrowmaster: I swear I fixed that, at least i never get it and I friend I made update did not either'.`
`09:09.47`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24446 10BanzaiLib/BanzaiLib.toc: BanzaiLib: toc 20003`
`09:09.47`	`dm_bgp`	`the site is back already?`
`09:09.47`	`sylvanaar`	`ipairs goes with table.insert, and pairs goes with table[foo]=""`
`09:09.47`	`Adirelle`	`Nargiddley : first alternative is easier to implement, keep section ordering, but won't be less space-efficient`
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`09:10.14`	`Adirelle`	`Nargiddley : second alternative is tougher to implement, may change section ordering, but may save more space`
`09:10.16`	`bigzero`	`purl's slow`
`09:10.21`	`jjb`	`table[i] = nil is the same as table.remove[table,i] ??`
`09:10.34`	`bigzero`	`no, as i saddly remembered a minute ago`
`09:10.35`	`Elkano`	`no`
`09:10.40`	`Nargiddley`	`Adirelle, i've been thinking of seperating the bag layout so there can be alternatives`
`09:10.48`	`bigzero`	`table.remove shifts the elements to close the gap n numbering`
`09:10.52`	`sylvanaar`	`not unless you nil the whole table`
`09:10.58`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24447 10AbacusLib/AbacusLib.toc: AbacusLib: toc 20003`
`09:11.07`	`Elkano`	`if you have an array, the entries after i would be shifted down if you remove but not if you nil`
`09:11.16`	`bigzero`	`and only works with numbered indeces if i understand it right`
`09:11.19`	`jjb`	`or u nil the last?`
`09:11.30`	`Adirelle`	`Nargiddley: what do you mean by seperating the bag layout ? modules or the like ?`
`09:11.44`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah you can t[#t]=nil right`
`09:11.56`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24448 10!BugGrabber/!BugGrabber.toc: !BugGrabber: toc 20003`
`09:12.00`	`bigzero`	`you can i think`
`09:12.17`	`jjb`	`so i found a bug in detox :)`
`09:12.37`	`Nargiddley`	`Adirelle, wasnt thinking of a module, but having the few functions controlling it as a table that can be swapped. Similar to how the rules are done`
`09:13.11`	`Srosh`	`isn't Detox deprecated anyway?`
`09:13.25`	`jjb`	`i improve it atm`
`09:13.27`	`sylvanaar`	`no its just not detoxed`
`09:13.34`	`Srosh`	`g`
`09:13.36`	`Nargiddley`	`Adirelle, depends how easy it is to make the new layout optional. I prefer sections seperated as they are now`
`09:14.03`	Funkeh`	`pastamancer: ping`
`09:14.29`	`Adirelle`	`Nargiddley: as I'm trying nonw, section layout is done in UpdateBagFrameSize just before updating size`
`09:14.50`	`jjb`	`what licence-model aceaddons have?`
`09:15.10`	`jjb`	`if there is no licence.txt g`
`09:15.11`	`Adirelle`	`btw... I'm thinking of tagging section and bag as "dirty" to avoid unnecessary work`
`09:15.14`	`pastamancer`	Funkeh`: pong
`09:15.27`	Funkeh`	`will you be raising the files script toc to 20003?`
`09:15.32`	`sylvanaar`	`sylvanaar failed at simple combat log - it is in no way simple`
`09:15.32`	`krka`	`no license would default to plain copyright`
`09:15.32`	`pastamancer`	`no`
`09:15.35`	Funkeh`	`ok`
`09:15.53`	`jjb`	`means i cant improve any addons?`
`09:16.00`	`jjb`	`and make it public`
`09:16.09`	`Adirelle`	`Nargiddley: and also using custom acevent "buckethandler" to collect "updating size request"`
`09:16.13`	`jjb`	`i cant contact the author of detox`
`09:16.41`	`sylvanaar`	`dont pntificate over that non-issue`
`09:17.15`	`pastamancer`	`jjb: maia will be back in a month or so`
`09:17.31`	`jjb`	`so i make my code public`
`09:18.11`	`jjb`	`its now like smartdebuff`
`09:18.20`	`jjb`	`but with priority and skip list`
`09:18.21`	`Srosh`	`branch it and you're ok`
`09:18.54`	`Nargiddley`	`Adirelle, sounds good. As long as its optional and can still act like it does now i dont mind what you do`
`09:19.00`	`jjb`	`with new name, or in the detox folder?`
`09:19.28`	`pastamancer`	`new name`
`09:19.45`	`jjb`	`k`
`09:19.51`	`Nargiddley`	`Adirelle, I diddnt spend much time on the frames. Category system was my main focus with frames good enough to display it`
`09:20.00`	Funkeh`	`so playmusic() nerfed`
`09:20.08`	`Adirelle`	`jjb => you should branch in SVN to something like branches/Detox/jjb/Detox`
`09:20.25`	`Adirelle`	`or did i understand pastamancer wrong ?`
`09:20.46`	`jjb`	`i set up now my own svn server`
`09:21.08`	`Adirelle`	`Nargiddley: oki. I note that, I was also looking at making bag frame more "baggish" but blizzard code for handling bag texture is just scary.`
`09:21.27`	`pastamancer`	`no, it's a fairly major change in functionality, it should be called something new, not just a branch in svn`
`09:21.29`	`Adirelle`	`s/bag frame more /bag frame looking more /`
`09:21.49`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24449 10CBRipoff/ (. CBRipoff.toc): CBRipoff: toc 20003, externals added`
`09:21.51`	`Adirelle`	`(someday i'll learn to reread before typing enter...)`
`09:22.20`	`Adirelle`	`(but until this glory day I thank purl)`
`09:22.27`	`Nargiddley`	`Adirelle yeah, would mean pretty much creating a backdrop for the frames from scratch to look similar`
`09:22.34`	`sylvanaar`	`do we have a who cache lib ? anyoen working on one?`
`09:22.39`	`jjb`	`so i name it DetoxImproved`
`09:23.00`	`sylvanaar`	`you need a better named`
`09:23.06`	`sylvanaar`	`Retox`
`09:23.13`	`jjb`	`hehe`
`09:23.31`	`Adirelle`	`or Dexolution`
`09:23.40`	`Adirelle`	`er... I meant Detoxultion`
`09:23.45`	`jjb`	`Retox sounds nice :)`
`09:24.27`	`Adirelle`	`yep, but its sense is the contrary (does this word exists ?) of Detox`
`09:24.40`	`sylvanaar`	`no`
`09:24.46`	`sylvanaar`	`tox`
`09:25.11`	`sylvanaar`	`toxify`
`09:25.34`	`Adirelle`	`Nargiddley: i'll try to look at other bag addons to see how they handle it`
`09:25.36`	`sylvanaar`	`retoxify - may be a pseudo-word`
`09:26.04`	`pastamancer`	`verbing wierds language`
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`09:26.15`	`jjb`	`but its based on detox so retox would be ok :)`
`09:26.54`	`sylvanaar`	`retox isnt contrary its clever`
`09:27.01`	`jjb`	`i used it already in bwl, and it seems to work`
`09:27.54`	`jjb`	`mouseover on a non secure unitframe is not working anymore, or?`
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`09:28.56`	`sylvanaar`	`oh your german`
`09:29.04`	`sylvanaar`	`s/your/you're/`
`09:29.25`	`jjb`	`sorry g`
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`09:29.43`	`jjb`	`germany are always lazy`
`09:29.48`	`jjb`	`germans`
`09:30.39`	`sylvanaar`	`i like germans -`
`09:30.49`	`Herio`	`i like people`
`09:30.54`	`jjb`	`yor are from?`
`09:31.02`	`jjb`	`you`
`09:31.06`	`sylvanaar`	`us-tx`
`09:31.13`	`jjb`	`wtf i cant type`
`09:31.35`	`Elkano`	`it doesn't matter if we like Germans or not... as long as we share our hate for French... ;)`
`09:31.57`	`jjb`	`thats true`
`09:32.16`	`sylvanaar`	`stimt doch`
`09:32.22`	`jjb`	`iam living near to france, and i know what you mean`
`09:32.25`	`Azurewrath`	`Elkano: haha, true ;)`
`09:32.49`	`Tekkub`	`yawn`
`09:32.53`	`Tekkub`	`quiet night`
`09:32.56`	`sylvanaar`	`o.o - my german spelling is so bad`
`09:33.05`	`Azurewrath`	`sylvanaar: qft.`
`09:33.14`	`CIA-17`	`03totalpackage * r24450 10InFlight/ (. Defaults.lua Frame.lua InFlight.lua InFlight.toc):`
`09:33.14`	`CIA-17`	`InFlight:`
`09:33.14`	`CIA-17`	`- updated for 2.0.3`
`09:33.14`	`CIA-17`	`- removed "Use oCB settings" option but added loads of local customization options (enjoy)`
`09:33.14`	`CIA-17`	`- Lots of Outland default data added, mainly Alliance data I collected; Hordies slacking with the POI data gotta learn on their own`
`09:33.15`	`CIA-17`	`- uses new Dismount() function, removed Gratuity as a result`
`09:33.19`	`CIA-17`	`- applied code optimizations learned from "Coding Tips"`
`09:33.21`	`SP\|Sorren`	`what's the max texture dimensions?`
`09:34.02`	`jjb`	`svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/24450'`
`09:34.02`	`jjb`	`svn: No such revision 24450`
`09:34.06`	`sylvanaar`	`someone should do the EU glorylib stuff for servertype`
`09:34.07`	`jjb`	`what i can do here?`
`09:34.15`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r24451 10Ace2/Ace2.toc: Ace2 - TOC 20003`
`09:34.27`	`jjb`	`i cant checkout external libs`
`09:34.29`	`Elkano`	`sylvanaar, my German spelling isn't much better ;)`
`09:35.02`	`Elkano`	`and wrt your question: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6621-WhoLib.html`
`09:35.13`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, i have seen that`
`09:35.36`	`odt`	`anyone know if this would work, whisper your party member "mark", and he'll cast hunters mark on my target?`
`09:35.41`	`sylvanaar`	`maybe i can do a optional thing with it`
`09:35.42`	`Elkano`	`but I don't know how usefull that is... there also was an addon that queued who requests but iirc it somehow bugged me`
`09:36.20`	`Elkano`	`odt, iirc you can't cast via script anymore`
`09:36.21`	`sylvanaar`	`Prat is not agressive enough, too many grey links`
`09:36.49`	`sylvanaar`	`well, in bg's`
`09:36.51`	`odt`	`Elkano: hmm, thought some kind of whispercast is still around`
`09:37.07`	`odt`	`just thinking about the fastest way to level my be pally`
`09:37.08`	`Elkano`	`well, Prat only catches whos and mouseover/target changes, doesn't it? (besides guild and friends)`
`09:37.15`	`CIA-17`	`03aliset * r24452 10SendSelf/SendSelf.toc:`
`09:37.15`	`CIA-17`	`SendSelf:`
`09:37.15`	`CIA-17`	`- Update interface number`
`09:37.19`	`sylvanaar`	`it does a raid iteration`
`09:37.39`	`sylvanaar`	`party too`
`09:38.04`	`sylvanaar`	`and i have them all catching server name now`
`09:38.12`	`Azurewrath`	`sylvanaar: btw. is there a autoremove-old function for playernames built in?`
`09:38.15`	`Elkano`	`but pls DON'T add auto-who since blizzard throttled that :/`
`09:38.22`	`sylvanaar`	`im no`
`09:38.23`	`sylvanaar`	`not`
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`09:38.53`	`sylvanaar`	`theres a 'dont save'`
`09:39.33`	`sylvanaar`	`but no aging/scavging`
`09:39.38`	`Azurewrath`	`jep, i know.. i set it to save.. but i guess it contains sooo many guys i'll never see again`
`09:39.54`	`Azurewrath`	`my Prat savedvar is about ~260kb`
`09:40.11`	`sylvanaar`	`well, now it saves xserver too`
`09:40.28`	`Azurewrath`	`i'll just do a manual reset from time to time then i guess :)`
`09:40.58`	`mangoshake`	`about that, quick question (sorry for butting in)`
`09:41.19`	`mangoshake`	`how does Prat get the info from guild? does it look at offline members as well?`
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`09:41.43`	`Elkano`	`most likely yes since it colors guild members coming online`
`09:41.50`	`sylvanaar`	`no, that would be wasteful`
`09:42.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`sylvanaar: can you make saving x-server an option?`
`09:42.11`	`sylvanaar`	`saw that coming`
`09:42.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`sorry :)`
`09:42.16`	`mangoshake`	`:p`
`09:42.19`	`Azurewrath`	`hehe :)`
`09:42.30`	`Elkano`	`sylvanaar, you don't cache full guild on login? Oo`
`09:43.11`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I only say that, because some x-server info is rather transient and for some people it'd be wasteful to store information on someone that they may never run into again. or rarely.`
`09:43.32`	`sylvanaar`	`GetGuildRosterInfo`
`09:43.57`	`mangoshake`	`interesting choice on the guild info, I could see reason to do it either way`
`09:44.53`	`mangoshake`	`for me I only want to know about guild members info, so it would have been perfect if I have it set up "don't save" and Prat looks at all guild members`
`09:45.00`	`Elkano`	`for i = 1, GetNumGuildMembers(true) do cache(GetGuildRosterInfo(i)) end <-- this would include offline guild members, too`
`09:45.22`	`mangoshake`	`but i understand that if someone turns on don't save they have reason to do so they may not want any excess info at all`
`09:45.30`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah`
`09:45.35`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r24453 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: report as CTRA 1.622`
`09:46.00`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r24454 10Ace2/Ace2.toc: Ace2 - removed creepy dealies from TOC`
`09:46.10`	`mangoshake`	`well, thanks for answering my question :)`
`09:46.29`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`creepy dealies?`
`09:46.48`	Funkeh`	`http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1008/sohqv6.jpg`
`09:46.50`	`Elkano`	`well, those from your guild will be more likely to be needed so I don't see any harm in caching the whole guild... I still think it does that (or you turned on saving without telling ;) )`
`09:46.56`	Funkeh`	`ZOAS`
`09:47.10`	`evl`	`Some guy here is saying you need the CD's to run TBC. So what were those 650mb I just downloaded previous and current patch for then? Shouldn't a CD key be sufficient?`
`09:47.18`	`Elkano`	`SOH?`
`09:47.27`	`ZealotOnAStick`	Funkeh`?
`09:47.36`	`sylvanaar`	`it doesnt - the first time they log on their name is grey (or yellow)`
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`09:47.40`	Funkeh`	`see the picture`
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`09:48.03`	`odt`	`evl: you still need the installer i guess`
`09:48.05`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`hrm. What the hell?`
`09:48.08`	`Azurewrath`	`evl: The Key is the only thing you really need, to upgrade your Account. You can install any TBC Client you want after that.`
`09:48.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`evl, I believe a blue has said that the CDS will contain data not pushed in the patches`
`09:48.27`	`odt`	`yeah, outland for example`
`09:48.38`	`evl`	`So what were the 650mb we just downloaded?`
`09:48.38`	`Elkano`	`sylvanaar, but then they should show grey when coming online since I have saving turned off... but they are collored correctly :?`
`09:48.41`	`evl`	`Seems very strange.`
`09:48.44`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`evl: at least for the US, and I believe EU, Blizzard (most likely on a directive on-high from Vivendi) has stated that you must purchase the physical media to get the cd-key.`
`09:49.12`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Whether or not there's actual content needed on those is yet to be seen.`
`09:49.17`	`Azurewrath`	`you need a TBC Client, not the CD's. I guess the beta client will do if you edit the realmlist.wtf`
`09:49.36`	`mangoshake`	`Elkano, old data maybe? I'd assume it would still use cached data, just not save any new ones`
`09:49.49`	`Elkano`	`I naver had it turned on`
`09:50.01`	`mangoshake`	`then I don't know. I'm not the LUA coder here :p`
`09:50.42`	`sylvanaar`	`Elkano: well - its possible that you have another character on that same server which gets the names saved maybe`
`09:51.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`to quote drysc: "Yes, the expansion CD contains content which isn't included in any of the recent patches that have been released."`
`09:51.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/63256343.htm`
`09:51.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Take that as you will.`
`09:51.27`	`Elkano`	`sylvanaar, there is no cached data in the SV`
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`09:52.09`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`ckknight: you bumped toc on honorfu yet? If not, plan to soonish? PvP freak guildmates are bugging me and refuse to listen.`
`09:52.21`	`ckknight`	`ou do it`
`09:52.24`	`ckknight`	`you*`
`09:52.37`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`'k. Fine with that, just wasn't gonna without your ok.`
`09:52.42`	`Azurewrath`	`who cares about toc numbers?`
`09:52.47`	`ckknight`	`I don't`
`09:52.54`	`ckknight`	`also, I don't really care about my FuBar plugins`
`09:53.05`	`ckknight`	`if someone wants to take some over, it's fine by me`
`09:53.18`	`sylvanaar`	`make it display your battlegroup and the other servers in it`
`09:53.30`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`people who get too concerned over that "zomg it says out of date!?" bit despite being told "just click load out of date addons and play, if there's no errors, don't worry about it`
`09:53.57`	`Azurewrath`	`ZealotOnAStick: tell them that they have to deal with it. ;)`
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`09:54.47`	`Azurewrath`	`everything >= 20000 works fine atm, and i guess it'll stay that way until the next addon/3.0`
`09:54.55`	`Daemona`	`tell them to uptocdate it emselves?`
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`09:55.55`	`jjb`	`how i can code it, so its possible to resize a button and to cut the text if the text is too long?`
`09:56.30`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24455 10oRA2/ (4 files in 4 dirs): oRA2: update toc's to 20003`
`09:56.32`	`jjb`	`like in your buffbars, elkano`
`09:56.35`	`CIA-17`	`03zealotonastick * r24456 10FuBar_HonorFu/FuBar_HonorFu.toc:`
`09:56.35`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_HonorFu:`
`09:56.35`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:56.35`	`Elkano`	`Daemona, bad idea... I don't know how many "WoW 1.x version af addon x isn't working on WoW 2.x :/ What shall I do?" - "Update toc and all is fine..." I've seen... for addons where that doesn't work...`
`09:56.54`	`Daemona`	`i know i know`
`09:57.28`	`Elkano`	`jjb, wrt EBB I simply anchored both sides, rest is done by WoW itself`
`09:57.29`	`Daemona`	`but if someone that tried it with ONE addon and it doesnt fubar tells you you can update the toc safely, why not do it?`
`09:57.39`	`sylvanaar`	`raid_roster_update does it fire for the bg raid?`
`09:57.40`	`neenee`	`Indeed. There are even some 'addon fix tools' which will update all the tocs to your current version :\|`
`09:58.50`	`Elkano`	`well, I used WOWTOC for TBC beta when most working addons still had a 1xxxx TOC`
`09:59.04`	`Elkano`	`but besides that no use for such tools`
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`09:59.09`	`[Ammo]`	`indeed`
`09:59.56`	`jjb`	`i used a perlscript to update most of the issues with pairs,ipairs :)`
`10:00.21`	`sylvanaar`	`grep`
`10:00.30`	`Elkano`	`ok, doing a full update from svn for my addons folder... this will take some time :/`
`10:00.31`	`jjb`	`was not so easy`
`10:00.33`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Elkano: grep.`
`10:00.38`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`heh`
`10:00.44`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`sylvanaar was too fast for me.`
`10:00.57`	`sylvanaar`	`for windows = powergrep`
`10:01.15`	`Elkano`	`one does not simply grep into Mordor...`
`10:01.23`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`powergrep? I'll have to look into it, I'm using . . . Hrm. Not sure I reinstalled on this system after the last format. WinGrep or something?`
`10:01.28`	`Elkano`	`and I have cygwin installed, so I could grep, too ^^`
`10:01.31`	`sylvanaar`	`i loves me some jgsoft`
`10:01.45`	`sylvanaar`	`regexbuddy powergrep editpadpro`
`10:01.56`	`jjb`	`sed :)`
`10:02.03`	`Elkano`	`ah, epp :)`
`10:02.14`	`jjb`	`awk`
`10:02.28`	`jjb`	`but perl -pe "s/fu/bar" works also`
`10:02.30`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I just need to get my other system out of storage, and set it up for dual boot. Windows for streaming video down to the tv/stereo downstairs, and linux for fun.`
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`10:03.02`	`Daemona`	`why dont you use linux for streaming either?`
`10:03.13`	`jjb`	`i have here windows only to raid my mails/calendar with outlook :)`
`10:03.15`	`Daemona`	`linvdr / vlc should be capable of that`
`10:03.18`	`jjb`	`raid :)`
`10:03.22`	`jjb`	`read`
`10:03.29`	`Adirelle`	`ckknight : any time to merge french localization into glorylib ? or at least review it and check it doesn't break other locales ?`
`10:03.29`	`jjb`	`i hate wow`
`10:03.50`	`sylvanaar`	`commandline has nothing on http://www.regexbuddy.com/screen.html`
`10:03.53`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I can look into it. I just know precisely how to set up what I want to do in windows. Last time I played with linux, doing that with MS encoded video files was messy.`
`10:03.53`	`ckknight`	`probably.`
`10:04.20`	`jjb`	`which application you used under linux?`
`10:04.52`	`Adirelle`	`in fact, i'm mainly concerned by not breaking other locales, that's what prevent me to do the merging myself`
`10:05.11`	`Adirelle`	`and as I can't test... (maybe should I install PLE...)`
`10:05.45`	`neenee`	`It's nice to read that ScoreSort is obsolete now :) Good that Blizzard is adding new things like that`
`10:06.14`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`So, anyone have good recommendations of a handy way to get all the tradeskills buttons for someone in a relatively easy yet out of the way place? tried tcgTradeskills but it was sorta fugly and sucked up bar space.`
`10:07.21`	`Daemona`	`hmmm wanted to try stitch, but somehow the eu-servers are still not up again`
`10:07.22`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`wtb sprocket? ><`
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`10:08.55`	`Hjalte`	`Were the US servers down later than what Blizzard had said?`
`10:09.18`	`sylvanaar`	`rosterlib doesnt keep use server name shucks`
`10:09.19`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Meh.`
`10:09.24`	`neenee`	`Hm. Are the Postman messages for anyone else posted three times instead of once?`
`10:09.30`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`So they inverted the tree healing bonus. But you can DANCE now!`
`10:09.43`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`inverted?`
`10:09.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`eh?`
`10:09.59`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Instead of making healers in your group who get the aura heal for more . . .`
`10:10.08`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`it makes those in your group who have the aura receive more healing.`
`10:10.26`	`Elkano`	`wow, nicwe errorpage on curse ^^`
`10:10.30`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hmmm`
`10:10.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`that's an interesting changeup.`
`10:10.36`	`neenee`	`I think I prefer the new behaviour`
`10:10.40`	`[Ammo]`	`sylvanaar: I sure hope prat doesn't save the cross server colors`
`10:10.43`	`Worf`	`quite a nerf for every crosshealing tree imho`
`10:10.44`	`[Ammo]`	`since they're only useful in the BG anyway`
`10:10.45`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Yeah. I was amused at the python/django errors it was spitting out earlier.`
`10:10.46`	`[Cu]Werik`	`We worked hard to make that error page!`
`10:10.48`	`[Ammo]`	`and coloring them there is fine :)`
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`10:11.04`	`DrZoot`	`mmm, mr plow doesnt really like profession bags that much`
`10:11.41`	`sylvanaar`	`[Ammo]: it does right now`
`10:11.48`	`sylvanaar`	`if you have save on`
`10:11.58`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`wow yeah, the new django debug page is even niftier.`
`10:12.33`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`if you can even access that on your server, might want to turn that off, it's a scriptkiddy's dream.`
`10:12.41`	`xlvii`	`is there any way to put the ag_uf castbars on top? ;p`
`10:12.52`	`sylvanaar`	`they are saved in the self.db.realm`
`10:13.31`	`[Ammo]`	`sylvanaar: well I have save on, but I am not interested in saving cross-realm chars`
`10:13.35`	`[Ammo]`	`only in saving my own realm`
`10:13.40`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`it has castbars built in now? When did that happen?`
`10:13.52`	`[Ammo]`	`yeserday`
`10:13.59`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Hmm.`
`10:14.13`	`Royal`	`How come Perfectraid style got removed from agUF?`
`10:14.19`	`[Ammo]`	`it was fugly :p`
`10:14.44`	`Royal`	`It was nice for my target-of-target :P dont need a huge frame for that ^^`
`10:15.48`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`use one of the other frames and turn off manabar?`
`10:16.07`	`Daemona`	`time to get rid of menemycastbar then eeh?`
`10:16.12`	`Adirelle`	`question to any AceEvent guru : if I do something like self:RegisterBucket('myevent', 0) it will collect all myevents and handle them at the next screen update ?`
`10:17.12`	`xlvii`	`is there any way to put the ag_uf castbars on top? ;p`
`10:17.45`	Funkeh`	`get the EU servers up already ffs!`
`10:18.31`	`Adirelle`	`and more tough : if in myevent handler I trigger another "bucket event", will it be handled in the same onupdate than the first ?`
`10:18.35`	`CIA-17`	`03zealotonastick * r24457 10FuBar_AmmoFu/FuBar_AmmoFu.toc:`
`10:18.35`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_AmmoFu:`
`10:18.35`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:18.50`	`Adirelle`	`erm... maybe using a dirty flag would be easier`
`10:18.57`	`CIA-17`	`03zealotonastick * r24458 10FuBar_ClockFu/FuBar_ClockFu.toc:`
`10:18.57`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_ClockFu:`
`10:18.57`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:18.59`	`xlvii`	`G5 keyboard changes for melee classes too ;D`
`10:19.11`	`xlvii`	`or it might be for all of them`
`10:19.15`	`xlvii`	`but they're cool.`
`10:19.18`	`Daemona`	`i assume its g15`
`10:19.21`	`xlvii`	`shows my ap, weapon skill`
`10:19.23`	`xlvii`	`daemona, sorry`
`10:19.32`	`xlvii`	`daemona, i get confused between my keyboard and mouse`
`10:19.34`	`DrZoot`	`whats the best way to look for and then track the cooldown on potions? atm I am looking for the BAG_UPDATE_COOLDOWN messages and then looking for a potion and using that to get the cooldown from, that all falls apart though if the potion you just used is the last one`
`10:19.36`	`xlvii`	`but yes, the g15 keyboard`
`10:19.38`	`Royal`	`ZealotOnAStick: Yeah, did that :)`
`10:19.39`	`CIA-17`	`03zealotonastick * r24459 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/FuBar_DurabilityFu.toc:`
`10:19.39`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_DurabilityFu:`
`10:19.39`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:20.31`	`CIA-17`	`03zealotonastick * r24460 10FuTextures/FuTextures.toc:`
`10:20.32`	`CIA-17`	`FuTextures:`
`10:20.32`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:20.58`	`Nargiddley`	`DrZoot, you can get the cooldown of an item if you know its itemid`
`10:21.10`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24461 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: Dont let x-server players into the SV's`
`10:21.19`	`[Ammo]`	`thanks sylvanaar :)`
`10:21.32`	`[Ammo]`	`it should load them from the scoreboard I think`
`10:21.38`	`[Ammo]`	`(or does it already?)`
`10:22.51`	`Nargiddley`	`DrZoot, and at least when i tested it with healthstones. you diddnt have to have one left in your inv to get the cooldown`
`10:23.47`	`Adirelle`	`Nargiddley: in fact you client should have seen it at least one since last patch`
`10:24.34`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Hrm. Postal's on trunk? goes to read`
`10:24.51`	`[Ammo]`	`it need some cleaning`
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`10:25.06`	`[Ammo]`	`already volunteered to convert it to proper AceModuleCore`
`10:25.41`	`sylvanaar`	`what`
`10:26.51`	`[Ammo]`	`Postal needs some cleaning`
`10:27.05`	Funkeh`	`Arrays that are stored as saved variables are now saved using lua's array initializer syntax for optimal memory usage and performance on load.`
`10:28.00`	`Adirelle`	`you mean that's unclear ? or that it will break a lot of lua-reading website tools ?`
`10:28.09`	`bigzero`	`so i just dicovered that storing item info as itemids is not such a great idea...appearently you can't get item link using GetItemInfo all the time if you only have itemid.`
`10:29.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats probably because the item isnt in your local cache`
`10:29.33`	`bigzero`	`yup`
`10:30.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`going to save the entire item link instead?`
`10:30.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`and possible get yourself disconnected from the server for trying to use it?`
`10:30.45`	`bigzero`	`well, the mod originaly did that...today i worked on converting everything to itemids`
`10:31.54`	`Jens`	`Did new patch go live in EU today?`
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`10:32.24`	`Adirelle`	`Jens: yes, but dunno if servers are up or down`
`10:32.54`	`bigzero`	`damn, gotta think about this. gonna go sleep on it. Good night all`
`10:33.01`	`Jens`	`Well, I'm still at school. They better be up at 16:00 when I get home. Finishing major school project today, and I finally have time to play.`
`10:33.32`	`Daemona`	`from loginscreen msg they should be up since 4 minutes ;)`
`10:33.54`	`Elkano`	`they were all still down a minute ago`
`10:33.54`	`Jens`	`I'm tempted to say "O RLY?".`
`10:34.07`	`FatherJim`	`Ya Rly! :)`
`10:34.14`	`Jens`	`etc...`
`10:34.17`	`Jens`	`:)`
`10:34.18`	`FatherJim`	`j/k. :) Can't resist anytime I see that...`
`10:34.23`	`Elkano`	`should I be tempted to say "No way!"?`
`10:34.33`	`Daemona`	`btw you dont happen to play on earthen ring do you Jens ?`
`10:34.37`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24462 10simpleMinimap/localizations.lua:`
`10:34.37`	`CIA-17`	`simpleMinimap:`
`10:34.37`	`CIA-17`	`- UTF8 for localization`
`10:34.43`	`Jens`	`I have a level 3 alt there :)`
`10:34.56`	`Jens`	`Or was that on Argent Dawn? One of the RP realms.`
`10:34.56`	`Daemona`	`so then you cant play before 15:00 CET ;)`
`10:35.26`	`Jens`	`I've considered transferring to an RP realm... but all my friends are still on Azjol'Nerub.`
`10:37.11`	`neenee`	`Hm.. Nurturing Instinct, Brutal Impact or Shredding Attacks.. decisions, decisions..`
`10:38.11`	`DrZoot`	`Nargiddley, mmm, so what your saying is that if i had the item id of a healthstone and i could then figure out if something from the stone family had been used, I could use the itemid of the healthstone to get the cooldown remaining?`
`10:38.44`	`CIA-17`	`03aliset * r24463 10SendSelf/ (Makefile SendSelf.toc):`
`10:38.44`	`CIA-17`	`SendSelf:`
`10:38.44`	`CIA-17`	`- Version bump (1.1.2)`
`10:38.45`	`Nargiddley`	`DrZoot, exactly`
`10:39.48`	`Nargiddley`	`DrZoot, i'll test with creating a stone. then checking the cooldown of an id i havent seen.`
`10:41.03`	`DrZoot`	`Nargiddley, I think if its an item you havent seen and therefore havent got in your cache it will just return nil wont it?`
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`10:41.17`	`Adirelle`	`DrZoot: right`
`10:41.31`	`Nargiddley`	`thats what i want to test, if you'll have to keep checking for one of the stone id's that does return one`
`10:41.59`	`Adirelle`	`DrZoot : notice that seeing an item in AH or as a link don't put it in your cache`
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`10:42.42`	`Adirelle`	`at least that's what I deduce from some testing (or maybe have I some trouble with my cache, I can't find where WoW put its cache files now)`
`10:43.24`	`Nargiddley`	`cache\WDB\enUS\ for me`
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`10:43.55`	`DrZoot`	`Adirelle, yeah what Nargiddley said, but I have noticed that sometimes it doesnt actually create the folders under cache/`
`10:44.21`	`neenee`	`Ah, EU realms are coming back ;)`
`10:44.33`	`Adirelle`	`DrZoot : I had to create them manually, but it didn't create any file into it...`
`10:44.38`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Ooh yay. DoTimer 2.2 beta has raid icons over mob name displays now.`
`10:44.46`	`jjb`	`and ace is already prepared for the patch :)`
`10:44.55`	`Gagorian`	`ZealotOnAStick: Yay, whining paid off`
`10:44.57`	`[Ammo]`	`is DoTimer better yet than it was?`
`10:45.08`	`[Ammo]`	`it scanned the _whole_ spellbook in onupdates :p`
`10:45.12`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`It's still big and probably inefficient.`
`10:45.15`	`[Ammo]`	`ok`
`10:45.20`	`[Ammo]`	`then I'll not touch it`
`10:45.23`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I dunno about the spellbook scanning or not.`
`10:45.40`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`But for my raiding warlock it's still the most effective dot timer tool I've found.`
`10:45.48`	`Gagorian`	`The thing is that it's the best timer addon...`
`10:45.53`	`Nargiddley`	`DrZoot, just created a major healthstone and then checked the cooldown one of the other stones (250hp from the pt set), it returned the cooldown info`
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`10:46.00`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I can poke around in the code and let you know if you give me a rough idea of what to look for.`
`10:46.24`	`[Ammo]`	`dunno`
`10:46.26`	`[Ammo]`	`I checked pre2.0`
`10:46.35`	`[Ammo]`	`maybe he uses the proper spellcast events now`
`10:46.47`	`[Ammo]`	`and doesn't go scan the spellbook at every (unthrottled) onupdate`
`10:47.13`	`[Ammo]`	`the code is probably still horrible`
`10:47.49`	`DrZoot`	`Nargiddley, ok thanks, Ill see what I can come up with`
`10:48.27`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`If I were . . . I dunno, 5 to 10 times more experienced a programmer than I was, I'd like to rip it apart and put it back together with Ace2 for a lot of crap I'm sure is replicative, or if nothing else to give it candybars and surfaces.`
`10:48.32`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`but I'm a scrub hack.`
`10:48.47`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`If I was that good I'd have already rewritten Sprocket too. :/`
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`10:49.24`	`Nargiddley`	`DrZoot, might not be safe to use if i'm interperating this right tho`
`10:49.38`	`DrZoot`	`Nargiddley, how do you mean?`
`10:49.47`	`Nargiddley`	`DrZoot, GetItemInfo returns nil before i check the cooldown, data after i check`
`10:50.17`	`DrZoot`	`Nargiddley, mmm`
`10:50.17`	`Nargiddley`	`seems like its getting the info from the server as you query the cooldown, might have the same dc effect with item id`
`10:50.22`	`Nargiddley`	`id's not seen yet`
`10:50.38`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm dotimer still scans the spellbook at a whim`
`10:50.45`	`[Ammo]`	`and does't cache the results`
`10:50.47`	`[Ammo]`	`silly thing`
`10:50.48`	`Adirelle`	`Nargiddley: how do you check the cooldown ? by spell book ?`
`10:50.55`	`Nargiddley`	`GetItemCooldown(itemid)`
`10:51.00`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Hmm. GetSpellName(i,BOOKTYPE_SPELL)`
`10:51.35`	`DrZoot`	`Nargiddley, I thought with the DC it only happened if you tried to reference an itemid that hadnt been seen on the server yet`
`10:52.27`	`Nargiddley`	`DrZoot, just tested with a TBC healthstone, dc'd from server`
`10:52.37`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`function SpellSystem_SpellFromPlayer(spell) \ GetSpellName(i,BOOKTYPE_SPELL)`
`10:52.43`	`DrZoot`	`Nargiddley, yeah but thats what I would expect`
`10:52.52`	`[Ammo]`	`Zealot: check the English thing`
`10:52.55`	`[Ammo]`	`it scans the whole spellbook`
`10:52.59`	`[Ammo]`	`and it does it for every spell cast`
`10:53.07`	`DrZoot`	`Nargiddley, I think if you got a level 1 alt and then tried to reference a normal healthstone you would be fine`
`10:53.09`	`Nargiddley`	`i guess if its a very common pot or one that they had on them before its safe`
`10:53.12`	`[Ammo]`	`DoTimer_ReturnEnglish`
`10:53.13`	`[Ammo]`	`that one`
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`10:53.58`	`DrZoot`	`Nargiddley, you only get a DC for things that dont exist on the server afaik`
`10:53.58`	`Nargiddley`	`DrZoot yeah, i was referencing stones i haddnt seen myself fine.`
`10:53.58`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:53.58`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`why wouldn't you cache that?`
`10:54.14`	`Elkano`	`\o/ exactly 1 (in words: one) EU server is online :)`
`10:54.44`	`[Ammo]`	`Zealot: no idea`
`10:54.46`	`DrZoot`	`Nargiddley, in any case because I know what I want to check before hand I can just use the itemname form of GetItemCooldown, ex. GetItemCooldown("Minor Healthstone")`
`10:54.59`	`[Ammo]`	`Zealot: but I won't touch DoTimer with a ten foot pole :p;`
`10:55.00`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24464 10Prat/modules/PopupMessage.lua:`
`10:55.00`	`CIA-17`	`Prat: Make popmessage show the text that is actually going onto the chatframe`
`10:55.00`	`CIA-17`	`Issue : 33`
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`10:55.06`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Babble-Spell would be useful there, wouldn't it? Or is that overkill?`
`10:55.14`	`[Ammo]`	`no that would not be useful`
`10:55.19`	`[Ammo]`	`or rather limited`
`10:55.28`	`kebinusan`	`chronometer works fine enough for me`
`10:55.36`	`[Ammo]`	`what he needs to do is do the spellbook scan on load and on SPELLS_LEARNED or something`
`10:55.38`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`ok, then that's my lack of understanding of the library's usefulness.`
`10:55.42`	`[Ammo]`	`and cache the result`
`10:55.50`	`[Ammo]`	`the library just provides localized spellnames`
`10:55.55`	`[Ammo]`	`and yeah chronometer works perfectly for my lock`
`10:55.59`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`the DoTimer_OnUpdate function is kinda nasty.`
`10:56.03`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`10:56.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`chronometer just needs the pausing of bars when it thinks the debuff has been bumped off removed`
`10:56.46`	`[Ammo]`	`you can turn that off can't you`
`10:56.57`	`Arrowmaster`	`i never noticed an option for it`
`10:58.02`	`[Ammo]`	`rofl`
`10:58.50`	`[Ammo]`	`I should add metagroups to candybar`
`10:58.52`	`[Ammo]`	`so you can group groups`
`10:59.05`	`[Ammo]`	`then chronometer can group the dots/spells per spell or per target`
`10:59.32`	`kebinusan`	`that'd be kinda nice`
`10:59.43`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`That would be one step closer . . . then get it so that it'll have an option to not use candybars and just use spell icons.`
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`11:00.23`	`evl`	`CandyBar:RemoveAllBars()`
`11:00.26`	`evl`	`also needed :)`
`11:00.52`	`[Ammo]`	`evl: no not needed`
`11:01.01`	`[Ammo]`	`evl: because it's a shared lib it can have bars from other addons`
`11:01.19`	`[Ammo]`	`Zealot: that's planned for Candy3, but time...`
`11:01.31`	`evl`	`Well all addons using candy now register "AddonName_" + BarName`
`11:01.35`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24465 10BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows/BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows.toc: BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows: toc 20003`
`11:01.43`	`evl`	`wouldn't it be better if the registry of bars was grouped by addon?`
`11:01.52`	`[Ammo]`	`evl: they are already`
`11:02.01`	`[Ammo]`	`evl: if you use proper mixin`
`11:02.07`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24466 10BigWigs_RazuviousAssistant/BigWigs_RazuviousAssistant.toc: BigWigs_RazuviousAssistant: toc 20003`
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`11:02.16`	`[Ammo]`	`evl: hence bars disappear when for instance a bigwigs module is disabled`
`11:02.27`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I use Chronometer for everything but my lock (and perhaps not my rogue if I ever play it again, but only because of things like RogueTimerFu).`
`11:02.36`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24468 10BigWigs_CThunAssist/BigWigs_CThunAssist.toc: BigWigs_CThunAssist: toc 20003`
`11:02.39`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24467 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/BigWigs_CommonAuras.toc: BigWigs_CommonAuras: toc 20003`
`11:02.43`	`Daemona`	`uhm i recall having an addon to sell grey items with one button click @ vendor, but i cant find it, anyone know that one?`
`11:03.01`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`but I've got enough crap on my screen during a dual-death knight pack in Naxx or a group of the mad scientists and stuff without 30 candybars.`
`11:03.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`why the toc changes?`
`11:03.17`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24469 10BigWigs_NefCount/BigWigs_NefCount.toc: BigWigs_NefCount: toc 20003`
`11:03.17`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r24470 10BigWigs_Debugger/BigWigs_Debugger.toc: BigWigs_Debugger: toc 20003`
`11:03.18`	`[Ammo]`	`Zealot: due to global cooldown you can't have 30 candybars`
`11:03.24`	`Daemona`	`Arrowmaster cause the addons would be out of date otherwise`
`11:03.34`	`[Ammo]`	`15-18 tops depending on effects`
`11:03.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats what the load out of date addons button is for`
`11:03.42`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`slight hyperbole there.`
`11:03.48`	`[Ammo]`	`:)`
`11:03.52`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`but you get the idea.`
`11:03.56`	`[Ammo]`	`I have 15 candybars running in ABs usually`
`11:03.59`	`[Ammo]`	`annd that's just fine`
`11:04.11`	`[Ammo]`	`when the pile of bars goes down it reminds me to DoT more`
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`11:05.26`	`xlvii`	`does anyone know if the casting bar for ag_uf can be put on top? and also, how do i make the combat points show up? ;_;`
`11:05.57`	`[Ammo]`	`if there is no option in the menu, then I guess it can't (for now)`
`11:06.22`	`snurre`	`Elkano: how's ebb2 coming along? :)`
`11:06.53`	`Adirelle`	`[Ammo] : chronometer only tracks dots/hots ? or does it track thing like "last hunter trap" and the like *?`
`11:07.02`	`[Ammo]`	`it tracks a shitload of stuff`
`11:07.05`	`[Ammo]`	`but my hunter is level 10`
`11:07.07`	`[Ammo]`	`so I dunno :)`
`11:07.18`	`[Ammo]`	`it tracks vindication on my pally etc`
`11:07.21`	`kebinusan`	`it doesnt track cooldowns`
`11:07.33`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah use something else for cooldowns`
`11:07.34`	`kebinusan`	`or abilities of other people`
`11:07.46`	`snurre`	`Antagonist for that`
`11:08.12`	`Adirelle`	`well... i'm mainly interessted by debuff, like scorpid sting, and autoshot cooldown`
`11:08.24`	`Adirelle`	`just to reduce mana waste`
`11:08.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`it should do scorpid sting`
`11:08.41`	`Adirelle`	`i have omnicc for cooldown tracking`
`11:09.04`	`snurre`	`im using BigTrouble for autoshot bar, chronometer to show sting timers`
`11:09.04`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24471 10!SurfaceControl/!SurfaceControl.toc: !SurfaceControl: 20003.`
`11:09.11`	`Adirelle`	`and I use sorrentimers, it also tracks lots of stuff, handling diminish returns and the like`
`11:09.17`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24472 10aUF_Banzai/aUF_Banzai.toc: aUF_Banzai: 20003.`
`11:09.29`	`[Ammo]`	`self:AddTimer(self.SPELL, BS["Scorpid Sting"], 20, 1,0,0, { gr=2 })`
`11:09.30`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24473 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.toc: BanzaiAlert: 20003.`
`11:09.34`	`[Ammo]`	`it does scorpid :p`
`11:09.41`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24474 10BigWigs_HealbotAssist/BigWigs_HealbotAssist.toc: BigWigs_HealbotAssist: 20003.`
`11:09.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`btw i swore i thought SurfaceLib had an override feature in it?`
`11:09.57`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24476 10BigWigs_TabletBars/BigWigs_TabletBars.toc: BigWigs_TabletBars: 20003.`
`11:10.07`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24475 10BigWigs_RespawnTimers/BigWigs_RespawnTimers.toc: BigWigs_RespawnTimers: 20003.`
`11:10.12`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24477 10BigWigs_ZombieFood/BigWigs_ZombieFood.toc: BigWigs_ZombieFood: 20003.`
`11:10.26`	`Adirelle`	`Arrowmaster: I seen something like that, but you'll need /script`
`11:10.29`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24478 10BugSack/BugSack.toc: BugSack: 20003.`
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`11:10.40`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24479 10Click2Cast/Click2Cast.toc: Click2Cast: 20003.`
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`11:11.22`	`Adirelle`	`Arrowmaster : return (not self.global and self.vars[n]) or (self.global and self.vars[self.global]) or self.vars.Blizzard`
`11:11.32`	`Adirelle`	`Arrowmaster : just set surface.global`
`11:11.36`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24483 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.toc: ClosetGnome_Mount: 20003.`
`11:11.44`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24484 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ClosetGnome_OhNoes.toc: ClosetGnome_OhNoes: 20003.`
`11:11.44`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24482 10ClosetGnome_Gatherer/ClosetGnome_Gatherer.toc: ClosetGnome_Gatherer: 20003.`
`11:11.51`	`kebinusan`	`Anyone know germal well enough to confirm somethin for me, it sounds like the sounds in BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows for Go Left/Go Right are reversed`
`11:11.52`	`[Ammo]`	`that's what SurfaceControl does afaik`
`11:11.52`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24485 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher.toc: ClosetGnome_Switcher: 20003.`
`11:12.03`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24486 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ClosetGnome_Zone.toc: ClosetGnome_Zone: 20003.`
`11:12.07`	`vhaarr`	`kebinusan: Confirmed.`
`11:12.10`	`kebinusan`	`s/germal/german`
`11:12.21`	`kebinusan`	`k, I'll download it and rename em`
`11:12.48`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24487 10DeuceLog/DeuceLog.toc: DeuceLog: 20003.`
`11:12.49`	`Nargiddley`	`Arrowmaster, looking at it surface:SetGlobal(name) will do that`
`11:12.58`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24488 10ErrorMonster/ErrorMonster.toc: ErrorMonster: 20003.`
`11:13.06`	`Silviu--`	`vhaarr spams the chan :/`
`11:13.08`	`Silviu--`	`:P`
`11:13.14`	`vhaarr`	`yeah fucking TOC number crap`
`11:13.22`	`Silviu--`	`I know :)`
`11:13.22`	`Gastro`	`kebinusan: ill check the sounds, mom`
`11:13.23`	`vhaarr`	`next time I want a script that sets it on all addons at once`
`11:13.27`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24489 10FreeRefills/FreeRefills.toc: FreeRefills: 20003.`
`11:13.49`	`vhaarr`	`Gastro: No need, I already confirmed it.`
`11:13.52`	Funkeh`	`Silviu--: you should have been here earlier i did 3/4 of the svn ;)`
`11:13.53`	`Gastro`	`yes, they are wrong`
`11:13.55`	`Adirelle`	`[Ammo] does chronometer allow to have different bar groups ?`
`11:13.58`	`Gastro`	`kk`
`11:14.09`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24491 10MrPlow/MrPlow.toc: MrPlow: 20003.`
`11:14.16`	`[Ammo]`	`adirelle: no, and it doesn't need them either`
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`11:14.26`	`[Ammo]`	`adirelle: it just tracks effects on others that you caused`
`11:14.26`	`nee-lap`	`eu servers up :)`
`11:14.35`	Funkeh`	`thank god`
`11:15.17`	`Daemona`	`yeah, but not a single german one :/`
`11:15.32`	`abbat_w`	`chronometer nice`
`11:15.33`	`Adirelle`	`[Ammo]: i'll take a quick look at the code`
`11:15.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`ok i thought i understood the purpose for !SurfaceControl then after looking at SurfaceLib again but now that i look at !SurfaceControl im completely confused`
`11:15.50`	`Silviu--`	`german servers still not`
`11:16.45`	`abbat_w`	`But i search mod like quel key binder. Allow you to bind spells/macros/items (don't need this) directly to button`
`11:17.02`	`vhaarr`	`Arrowmaster: yeah, because I didn't know about the global.`
`11:17.09`	`abbat_w`	`quel mod nice but i have insane memory usage with this mod ;(`
`11:17.44`	`Adirelle`	`[Ammo] : hunter is missing ferocious inspiration :)`
`11:17.50`	`[Ammo]`	`Adirelle: add it`
`11:18.02`	`[Ammo]`	`Adirelle: the paladin part misses Light's Grace too or something`
`11:18.03`	`[Ammo]`	`but shrug`
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`11:18.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`vhaarr: im guessing addons that use SurfaceLib are suppost to listen for Surface_SetGlobal?`
`11:18.56`	`vhaarr`	`Arrowmaster: You're guessing wrong.`
`11:19.03`	`[Ammo]`	`they should, but most dont`
`11:19.08`	`[Ammo]`	`(including mine)`
`11:19.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah`
`11:19.16`	`vhaarr`	`not really, no`
`11:19.40`	`[Ammo]`	`if you set the global they'll be updated on a reload though`
`11:19.47`	`[Ammo]`	`since Fetch returns the global if set`
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`11:21.41`	`Adirelle`	`[Ammo]: the extra 'arg' of Chronometer:AddTimer is ... er ... interesting`
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`11:22.02`	`[Ammo]`	`Adirelle: hehe yeah, it's probably documented somewhere though`
`11:22.05`	`[Ammo]`	`(wiki?)`
`11:22.46`	`Adirelle`	`(If you didn't make it, who could ? ;)`
`11:22.57`	`[Ammo]`	`I did not make chronometer`
`11:23.00`	`[Ammo]`	`Bhattu did or something`
`11:23.05`	`Adirelle`	`oh, srt`
`11:23.06`	`Adirelle`	`sry*`
`11:23.14`	`CIA-17`	`03totalpackage * r24494 10Capping/ (Capping.lua Capping.toc):`
`11:23.14`	`CIA-17`	`Capping`
`11:23.14`	`CIA-17`	`- toc to 20003`
`11:23.14`	`CIA-17`	`- reduced frequency the default queue sound plays`
`11:23.14`	`CIA-17`	`- made the name text on the scoreboard wider (seems a bit thin since patch)`
`11:23.18`	`[Ammo]`	`just suggesting a direction of investigation`
`11:23.44`	`Adirelle`	`well, wiki doesn't explain how to add timers IIRC`
`11:24.03`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24495 10!SurfaceControl/SurfaceControl.lua: !SurfaceControl: Stop hooking and just use SetGlobal. 100% drycode.`
`11:24.18`	`vhaarr`	`Adding timers is easy, just read the damn code.`
`11:25.10`	`Adirelle`	`well, that's why I'm doing, but it can't help myself smiling when I read : "if timer and timer.k.g == isgain and (timer.x.a or (timer.v and timer.v > GetTime())) then"`
`11:25.27`	`vhaarr`	`hehe`
`11:25.43`	`[Ammo]`	`I think .g = the effec tyou gain`
`11:25.48`	`[Ammo]`	`from reading that line :)`
`11:25.55`	`Adirelle`	`looks like attributes name were optimized to save space`
`11:26.12`	`abbat_w`	`btw guys. in pre 2.0 i use detox for decurse. they have sound on event if someone affected with curse. now i use grid. can i use sound for grid if someone affected with curse?`
`11:26.21`	`vhaarr`	`use detox`
`11:26.23`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`11:26.49`	`abbat_w`	`detox for sound, grid for decurse ;(`
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`11:27.09`	Funkeh`	`easy as pie`
`11:27.47`	`abbat_w`	`Are sound notification not it to do list for Grid? :)`
`11:27.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`bah i cant get SurfaceControl.lua to refresh so i can see how you changed it`
`11:28.09`	`vhaarr`	`your editor sux lolz`
`11:28.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`im using a web browser`
`11:28.38`	`[Ammo]`	`shift-refresh`
`11:28.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`i did`
`11:28.42`	`[Ammo]`	`works in proper browsers`
`11:30.01`	`vhaarr`	`yeah, except if you get assigned to an out-of-sync mirror`
`11:30.11`	`Matrix110`	`<3 Blizzard Downloader it just has to Downlaod 6 damn MB and its faster if i would extract the .torrent still...`
`11:30.27`	`Tornhoof`	`no need to extrac`
`11:30.27`	`Tornhoof`	`t`
`11:30.35`	`Tornhoof`	`you'll find the torrent in the cache dir`
`11:30.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`i think i have svn pointing at svn2 in my hosts file`
`11:30.44`	`Matrix110`	`oh ye right forgot that`
`11:30.46`	`Matrix110`	`they changed it`
`11:30.57`	`Tekkub`	`oh fuck`
`11:30.58`	`Elkano`	`this is magic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdrbzzlKdZE&NR`
`11:31.04`	`Tekkub`	`they finally got the goddamn hint`
`11:31.04`	`Matrix110`	`6MB take 12mins already!`
`11:31.54`	`Tornhoof`	`probably your realm isn't working anyway`
`11:32.07`	`Matrix110`	`doesnt matter but still:P`
`11:32.25`	`Matrix110`	`i tbh dont like sharing my Bandwith with others if i already pay for it:P`
`11:32.44`	`Tornhoof`	`then dload that file from somewhere else`
`11:32.48`	`Matrix110`	`i want a fullspeed mirrors by Blizzard`
`11:32.48`	`Matrix110`	`!`
`11:33.07`	`jjb`	`with button.Name:SetPoint("LEFT", button, "LEFT",0,0) and button.Name:SetPoint("RIGHT", button, "RIGHT",0,0) it strips the text to the size of the button?`
`11:33.18`	`Adirelle`	`Matrix110 : I usually start a real torrent client to allow lots of people DL'ing the patch...`
`11:33.26`	`Jens`	`I wish I could launch WoW over RDP so I could start downloading the patch.`
`11:33.28`	`kebinusan`	`bleh /poke dev.wowace.com`
`11:33.37`	`vhaarr`	`Elkano: :D`
`11:33.56`	`Matrix110`	`Adirelle i got imba 16kb upstream`
`11:34.06`	`_icetrain`	`Arrowmaster: the mirror is out of sync at the moment, seems like the post commit script barfs on dev.wowace.com when there is a commit storm (toc updates)`
`11:34.15`	`Adirelle`	`Matrix110: eek...`
`11:34.20`	`Adirelle`	`~x fr en compatir`
`11:34.33`	`Adirelle`	`purl, are you sure ?`
`11:34.50`	`Adirelle`	`Matrix110: so I sympathize ;)`
`11:35.02`	`Matrix110`	`aha:P`
`11:35.11`	`Adirelle`	`I have 1Mbps upload`
`11:35.22`	`Adirelle`	`~x en fr to sympathize`
`11:35.23`	`Matrix110`	`well then i would allow some upload aswell`
`11:35.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`Elkano: lol`
`11:35.39`	`Adirelle`	`purl, ...`
`11:35.42`	`purl`	`[... = and your point is] or [... = go on]`
`11:36.04`	`Adirelle`	`purl, you owned me, I won't talk you again`
`11:36.37`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`purl, botsnack`
`11:36.37`	`purl`	`aw, gee, ZealotOnAStick`
`11:37.29`	`Adirelle`	`damn, I'm used to technical english, but I 'm missing everyday speaking skill`
`11:37.37`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`lol`
`11:37.48`	`[Ammo]`	`learn one word: fuck`
`11:37.54`	`[Ammo]`	`can be used in sooo many ways`
`11:37.55`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`gem of a thread on Blizzard's UI board. "List of Mods that mess up stuff (2.0.3)"`
`11:38.00`	`[Ammo]`	`useful in virtually any situation`
`11:38.15`	`Tovort`	`Matrix110: http://wowsource.4players.de/wow-patch-2-0-3.php if you have an enGB or deDE version, this should be a fast mirror`
`11:38.26`	`Adirelle`	`well... in fact, slang and bad language are what you're learn early`
`11:38.27`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`"DoTimer causes errors. Cooldown Pulse causes errors on startup. Trinity bars projectile vomits onto my desk."`
`11:38.29`	`vhaarr`	`[Ammo]: Have you heard that fuck.wav thingy?`
`11:38.55`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`There's the "stuffy british accent guy" doing it . . . or the version I prefer, George Carlin.`
`11:39.10`	`vhaarr`	`yeah, I mean Carlins version.`
`11:39.13`	`CIA-17`	`03kebinusan * r24496 10BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows/sounds/ (GoLeftDE.wav GoRightDE.wav): BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows: Left in german actually sounds like left`
`11:39.15`	`vhaarr`	`he rocks`
`11:39.19`	`Adirelle`	`in french, you would put "putain de" everywhere you would put "fucking", like "that fucking car" => "cette putain de voiture"`
`11:39.41`	`Matrix110`	`Tovort thanks but i got it after 18mins!`
`11:39.52`	`[Ammo]`	`I like the snippet from Boondock Saints`
`11:40.07`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Yes, our main tank is a Quebecois.`
`11:40.08`	`[Ammo]`	`where the guy barges in on the mafia massacre with a sixshooter`
`11:40.17`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`We get "putain de merde" now and then.`
`11:40.24`	`Tovort`	`lol`
`11:40.30`	`Adirelle`	`lol`
`11:40.45`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`It's great when he blows up over vent and doesn't let go of PTT fast enough.`
`11:41.00`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`"Whad de fuck!?" followed by a string of french profanity.`
`11:41.30`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`11:41.38`	`[Ammo]`	`record it :p`
`11:42.10`	`Adirelle`	`I heard the was a frenchy in Matrix 2 & 3 just for the profanity soundings :)`
`11:42.12`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Ooh. I so should. And then find an excuse for a mod using it as a sound notification.`
`11:42.16`	`Adirelle`	`s/the/there/`
`11:42.27`	`groll`	`bah everyone is still downloading from the files section boohoo :(`
`11:42.37`	`vhaarr`	`ZealotOnAStick: BanzaiAlert could easily use profanities.`
`11:42.40`	`Tekkub`	`arg`
`11:42.42`	`Tekkub`	`boredom`
`11:42.48`	`[Ammo]`	`vhaarr: haha`
`11:42.49`	`groll`	`Tekkub how come? :D`
`11:42.54`	`[Ammo]`	`time to fetch lunch`
`11:42.54`	`Tekkub`	`don't really feel like messing with any more mods`
`11:43.03`	`Tekkub`	`@work`
`11:43.03`	`groll`	`ofcourse u do :D`
`11:43.29`	`Tekkub`	`I guess I could package up the new FuzzyLogic and release it`
`11:43.41`	`Adirelle`	`AceDevelopper('[Ammo']).fetch("lunch") ?`
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`11:44.09`	`Adirelle`	`btw, I'm hungry too`
`11:45.12`	`DrZoot`	`what does :GetBest() in PeriodicTable-2.0 return if it cannot find an example of what your looking for in your bags? Ive looked at the code and I think its going to be nil,nil,nil but Im not sure`
`11:45.43`	`odt`	`just 244 errors and counting with "load out of date addons" :)`
`11:47.20`	`kebinusan`	`odt: mostly from omnicc probably`
`11:47.24`	`kebinusan`	`or something similar`
`11:47.59`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24497 10!SurfaceControl/SurfaceControl.lua: !SurfaceControl: Fix the slash command.`
`11:49.33`	`DrZoot`	`meh, nvm, I stopped being lazy and just tested it in a macro`
`11:51.47`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24498 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Use surfacelib for the castbar texture as well.`
`11:52.52`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Ugh. Can tell the euro servers must be going up. Sites are slowing down.`
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`11:54.51`	`groll`	`argh not more updates damnit :P`
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`12:03.03`	`tlund`	`[12:52] #wowace+<ZealotOnAStick> Ugh. Can tell the euro servers must be going up. Sites are slowing down.`
`12:03.06`	`tlund`	`yes.`
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`12:10.39`	`odt`	`so how's the wowace server doing?`
`12:10.51`	`odt`	`i'm at letter c after 30 minutes already :)`
`12:10.55`	`odt`	`using WAU`
`12:11.11`	`Matrix110`	`~30mins ago it worked fine`
`12:11.15`	`kebinusan`	`hmm I just had an idea, it'd be kind of nice that www.wowace.com/files/ModName/Changelog or something that was the svn commit log for the mod`
`12:11.16`	`Matrix110`	`bit slower than usual though`
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`12:11.56`	`groll`	`Matrix110 a bit? :P`
`12:12.02`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`eu servers came up, a whole new wave of traffic. :P`
`12:12.04`	`sbu`	`morning`
`12:12.21`	`Matrix110`	`yes just a bit`
`12:12.26`	`CIA-17`	`03renchap * r24500 10Postman/ (Postman.toc localization.lua):`
`12:12.26`	`CIA-17`	`Postman:`
`12:12.27`	`CIA-17`	`- frFR translation added`
`12:12.27`	`CIA-17`	`- TOC => 20003`
`12:12.34`	`groll`	`i'm on bigwigs and it's been 30 min :P`
`12:12.42`	`Matrix110`	`thats unusual:P`
`12:12.45`	`sbu`	`ewww....`
`12:12.45`	`odt`	`i don't have bigwigs on the list anymore`
`12:12.47`	`sbu`	`server still down`
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`12:12.55`	`Matrix110`	`i needed like 30sec for Carthographer though`
`12:13.00`	`odt`	`since we stopped raiding a month ago :)`
`12:13.11`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`odt: uncheck cartographer and you'll probably find it much smoother.`
`12:13.11`	`sbu`	`i dont get it... same thing every patchday`
`12:13.17`	`Matrix110`	`Btw the 2.0.3 client`
`12:13.20`	`groll`	`Matrix110 u sitting on the darn server or something? :P`
`12:13.21`	`odt`	`ZealotOnAStick: not using that`
`12:13.30`	`CIA-17`	`03renchap * r24501 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-frFR.lua: Bartender3: Fixing frFR translation`
`12:13.30`	`Matrix110`	`the client sucks`
`12:13.37`	`odt`	`closetgnome is the problem`
`12:13.38`	`Matrix110`	`needs like 5sec before it shows the actual Login now`
`12:13.39`	`Matrix110`	`Oo`
`12:13.45`	`sbu`	`uhm - no?`
`12:13.53`	`odt`	`yeah, there's some stupid fade in`
`12:13.58`	`sbu`	`eww`
`12:14.05`	`Matrix110`	`ye this fadein is annoying`
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`12:14.58`	`CIA-17`	`03renchap * r24502 10DeuceCommander/DeuceCommander.toc: DeuceCommander: TOC => 20003`
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`12:15.00`	`sbu`	`i guess my realm will be down ~3 more hours :/`
`12:15.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`i wonder if maybe theres a cmdline option to disable it when you run wow, i know theres cmdline options for quite a few things`
`12:15.18`	`odt`	`just completed the only quest at the dark portal`
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`12:15.30`	`odt`	`was a bitch to fight for tapping with 50 other players :)`
`12:15.33`	`snurre`	`as usual, my realm is one of 2 that aren't up with the rest sigh`
`12:15.43`	`sbu`	`odt: whats the "use" on that tabard?`
`12:15.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`odt: lucky you`
`12:15.48`	`odt`	`just some mad emote`
`12:15.55`	`odt`	`with a holy nova effect`
`12:15.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`give us details`
`12:15.59`	`sbu`	`mahh...`
`12:16.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`it's a flex with something that looks like the holy nova animation`
`12:16.08`	`sbu`	`no holy nova w/ 2k dmg? :p`
`12:16.17`	`Matrix110`	`hmmm`
`12:16.19`	`CIA-17`	`03renchap * r24503 10JumpCounter/JumpCounter.toc: JumpCounter: TOC => 20003`
`12:16.24`	`Matrix110`	`same mods and memory went down 2MB`
`12:16.26`	`odt`	`dno, the allies around me didn't seem too bothered`
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`12:16.30`	`sbu`	`or dmg vs. felguards? :p`
`12:16.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`it also looks exactly like the AD tabard. :\`
`12:16.33`	`Matrix110`	`either a mod got cleaned or Blizzard did smth!`
`12:16.57`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm guess i can delete my AD tabard im still wearing then`
`12:17.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`i hope that quest is permenant and doesnt go away`
`12:17.14`	`sbu`	`heh, guild tabard ftw ;o`
`12:17.22`	`odt`	`i'm using the sm tabard`
`12:17.28`	`sbu`	`well - is there some 'duration ....' text?`
`12:17.39`	`odt`	`no`
`12:17.49`	`sbu`	`then it _should_ be permanent :p`
`12:17.51`	`odt`	`i guess he means by permanent, that it might be removed next week`
`12:17.59`	`sbu`	`oh hm`
`12:18.04`	`sbu`	`well the quest will be removed i guess`
`12:18.07`	`odt`	`the npc at least`
`12:18.11`	`odt`	`yea`
`12:18.14`	`CIA-17`	`03renchap * r24505 10FuBar_MailFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_MailFu.toc):`
`12:18.14`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_MailFu:`
`12:18.14`	`CIA-17`	`- frFR locale fix`
`12:18.14`	`CIA-17`	`- TOC => 20003`
`12:18.15`	`Arrowmaster`	`but why would it`
`12:18.22`	`odt`	`or maybe it's just the beginning`
`12:18.30`	`odt`	`a new npc and stuff every day til the 1th`
`12:18.32`	`odt`	`16th`
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`12:18.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`i thought i heard it was part of a chain`
`12:18.37`	`odt`	`yea`
`12:18.50`	`odt`	`could very well be`
`12:19.04`	`Rashomon`	`Oh, wowace is sloooow today ;)`
`12:19.13`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`if it is part of a chain, the chain isnt there now :P`
`12:19.20`	`sbu`	`but i need to lvl my rogue - and i cant do that if we have new quests every day ;)`
`12:19.25`	`syeren`	`We Europeans need our addons.`
`12:19.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`heh i need to level my rogue too`
`12:19.39`	`Wobble`	`http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/amalythia/ADtabard.jpg`
`12:19.41`	`sbu`	`its 39 atm :/`
`12:19.42`	`syeren`	`We're generally more important than you Americans, we need them to kill bosses so you guys can copy our tactics!`
`12:19.42`	`syeren`	`;D`
`12:19.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`got him up to 48 the other day`
`12:19.45`	`Wobble`	`SPARKLEFRESH`
`12:19.54`	`sbu`	`and i need 45 for 375 mining...`
`12:20.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`?`
`12:20.14`	`Rashomon`	`Does anyone know if there's gonna be more changed to that AddOn system when BC comes out? Someone told me that they are gonna change Lua versions in BC, or has that already been done in the last patch?`
`12:20.23`	`sbu`	`oh - i can see my realm now...`
`12:20.25`	`Wobble`	`already done`
`12:20.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`i thought you needed 58 to get above 300 in any profession`
`12:20.36`	`Adirelle`	`looks like Chronometer will perfectly fit my needs`
`12:20.37`	`Wobble`	`it was done in 2.0`
`12:20.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`that was done in 2.0`
`12:20.40`	`sbu`	`retrieving character list... yay...`
`12:20.42`	`ZOAS`	`Oy, my system really didn't like transparent background with X-Chat`
`12:20.45`	`sbu`	`waiting`
`12:20.53`	`Rashomon`	`Aaaah, that's whaat I thought - good going then!`
`12:21.05`	`Adirelle`	`besides autoshot bar maybe... have to look at bigtrouble`
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`12:21.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`sbu, you said 45 for 375 mining? where did you hear that`
`12:21.32`	`Deviad`	`Can anyone make a torrent and share the whole /files/ directory?`
`12:21.44`	`MoonWolf`	`WHAT ?`
`12:21.49`	`Deviad`	`Cos the website is damn slow`
`12:22.04`	`MoonWolf`	`and torrenting every files in /files/ will help ?`
`12:22.05`	`Deviad`	`you know cos of the patch. All these users could be used to make the download faster instead of slower`
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`12:22.06`	`Deviad`	`:D`
`12:22.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`blame the europeans`
`12:22.12`	`Rashomon`	`Im running my own script to download exactly the files i need`
`12:22.20`	`Deviad`	`not every file just make a big zip file with all the mods and make a torrent of it`
`12:22.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`that would be every file`
`12:22.39`	`odt`	`isn't that how nyud works`
`12:22.41`	`Tornhoof`	`won't help`
`12:22.43`	`renchap`	`mirrors of wowace.com/files/ is a better solution i think`
`12:22.54`	`Rashomon`	`renchap: true that!`
`12:22.56`	`odt`	`or what was it's name`
`12:23.15`	`renchap`	`i can setup one mirror, but i need Kaelten :p`
`12:23.49`	`Rashomon`	`In the meantime, go check apple.com/iphone and let your mouth froth ;)`
`12:23.50`	`sbu`	`Arrowmaster: uhm i didnt... but since you need lvl 35 for 300... and lvl cap is raised by 10 :p`
`12:24.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`sbu, afaik you need 58`
`12:24.15`	`Adirelle`	`what's the size of the files/ directory ?`
`12:24.15`	`sbu`	`WOOT?`
`12:24.17`	`sbu`	`omfg`
`12:24.43`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`practically speaking, you need 58 for any 300+ skills, as the trainers are in outland and you must be 58 to go through the portal`
`12:24.49`	`sbu`	`ok, this i going to be a problem ;p`
`12:24.49`	`Tornhoof`	`i guess we need that !!!Libs directory back`
`12:25.04`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`brb`
`12:25.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`we dont need libs back`
`12:25.09`	`sbu`	`NightHawkTheSane: hmm - if 300+ trainers are all outland - correct`
`12:25.10`	`sbu`	`DAMN :/`
`12:25.14`	`vhaarr`	`"iPhone also introduces an entirely new user interface based on a large multi-touch display" - bullshit, I've used those kind of interfaces for the last 2 years.`
`12:25.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`they are`
`12:25.35`	`sbu`	`btw lvling service :/`
`12:25.38`	`sbu`	`errr wtb`
`12:25.39`	`odt`	`vhaarr: well, not on phones maybe?`
`12:25.48`	`vhaarr`	`odt: I have.`
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`12:26.00`	`*** mode/#wowace [+v ZealotOnAStick] by ChanServ`
`12:26.02`	`vhaarr`	`odt: It's a custom product known as RollTalk.`
`12:26.03`	`Rashomon`	`vhaarr: well, I agree thaqt some of the stuff on there is maybe not entirely new - but it's rather for what they use it`
`12:26.09`	`odt`	`i see`
`12:26.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah i know sbu, i need 10 more on my rogue so i can have a primal mooncloth alt`
`12:26.20`	`vhaarr`	`Rashomon: Then they shouldn't say "new", that's just my point :)`
`12:26.29`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`sbu: the exception might be FA/cooking which have books that can probably be bought/sold, but i dont recall if they were BoP or not`
`12:26.36`	`Rashomon`	`vhaarr: the way they've implemented the "multi-touch" function is amazing`
`12:26.43`	`sbu`	`phew, 39-58 in <1 week`
`12:26.44`	`vhaarr`	`Rashomon: It's also not new.`
`12:26.47`	`Rashomon`	`vhaarr: I know matey, I kinda react the same way`
`12:26.51`	`sbu`	`this is going to be a problem ;p`
`12:26.53`	`snurre`	`vhaarr: they should say "new" in a marketing sense.. if it's correct or not is not really the matter ;)`
`12:26.54`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`ok, not sure if I like X-Chat or not, but I'll give it a chance to try to let it grow on me.`
`12:26.59`	`vhaarr`	`snurre: :P`
`12:27.02`	`sbu`	`+ dark portal event :/`
`12:27.08`	`evl`	`iPhone is in a league of it's own, same features or not`
`12:27.08`	`sbu`	`+ pvp for equip (rogue)`
`12:27.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`<3 X-chat Aqua`
`12:27.15`	`Rashomon`	`evl: true`
`12:27.28`	`vhaarr`	`I'm not disputing the league.`
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`12:27.39`	`evl`	`Always the same with Apple, the complete package blows everything away, that's why Zune sells less than AC adapters for iPod on Amazon`
`12:27.41`	`Rashomon`	`evl: sad thing is that in EU we'll have to wait until quarter 4 to get hold of it`
`12:27.44`	`vhaarr`	`I'm just saying they should ease up on claiming they innovate everything.`
`12:27.53`	`evl`	`vhaarr: it's marketing`
`12:27.59`	`Rashomon`	`vhaarr: marketing`
`12:28.01`	`vhaarr`	`Well, obviously.`
`12:28.02`	`Rashomon`	`:)`
`12:28.10`	`evl`	`And it worked`
`12:28.14`	`evl`	`+9%~ up`
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`12:28.28`	`odt`	`they have to claim stuff like that since the macexpo is competing with CES at the same time`
`12:28.33`	`vhaarr`	`In Norway, making false claims in advertizing is actually a crime.`
`12:28.38`	`odt`	`otherwise they won't make the headlines in news`
`12:28.57`	`vhaarr`	`Like it should have been in the rest of the world.`
`12:29.00`	`Rashomon`	`vhaarr: It's the same in Sweden`
`12:29.02`	`odt`	`well "innovate" is not a false calim in itself`
`12:29.07`	`snurre`	`theyre not lying though, they're not claiming they invented it`
`12:29.13`	`evl`	`vhaarr: jass�, du snakker ikke s� godt engelsk du truls?`
`12:29.15`	`sbu`	`eww, new SG1`
`12:29.16`	`Adirelle`	`vhaar : in France too, but the question is "what is true ? and what is false ?"`
`12:29.17`	`vhaarr`	`evl: :P`
`12:29.25`	`vhaarr`	`well, true.`
`12:29.26`	`pahvir`	`hm`
`12:29.35`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i could be wrong, but i beleive it's illegal in the US, too. But damned if companies dont push that as far as the can.`
`12:29.38`	`snurre`	`theyre just saying theyre using a new technology in a new way, which in a sense is true`
`12:29.38`	`evl`	`and where is the fine line drawn`
`12:29.48`	`pahvir`	`anyone else missing icons in bt3 after the patch`
`12:29.51`	`vhaarr`	`Fine, I agree somewhat.`
`12:29.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`*they`
`12:30.08`	`odt`	`false advertising is usually referring to a purpose the device does not fill, but was promised to`
`12:30.12`	`vhaarr`	`I'm just saying that if I was Superman, I'd bust their ass.`
`12:30.23`	`Adirelle`	`vhaar : did they say "a new [...] all over the known universe" or just "new [...]" ;)`
`12:30.31`	`vhaarr`	`the french ..`
`12:30.48`	`odt`	`can't use it to stop the marketing magic`
`12:30.48`	`Adirelle`	`first is probably false, second maybe true of false depending on the context`
`12:30.49`	`vhaarr`	`you are french, right? :P`
`12:30.55`	`vhaarr`	`yes, indeed`
`12:31.01`	`Adirelle`	`why do you say that ? :p`
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`12:31.08`	`vhaarr`	`because you're so weird`
`12:31.36`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24506 10Buffalo/Buffalo.toc: Buffalo: toc 20003`
`12:31.44`	`Adirelle`	`that's not weirdness, that's "nuance"`
`12:32.09`	`vhaarr`	`I'm just referring to the fact that most of you understand english, yet many refuse to speak it.`
`12:32.19`	`vhaarr`	`so shopping in france is hell`
`12:32.28`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`can you really blame them? :P`
`12:32.44`	`vhaarr`	`hmm`
`12:33.17`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`12:33.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i mean, i'd try that too, but in the US i wouldn't get very far :P`
`12:33.17`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
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`12:33.17`	`vhaarr`	`lol`
`12:33.17`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r24507 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.toc: WitchHunt: toc to 20003`
`12:33.18`	`Deviad`	`Well, anyways iPhone is made for an American market, in Italy we don't have wide wi-fi networks`
`12:33.18`	`Wobble`	`Did you notice the new line in the TOC?`
`12:33.18`	`Wobble`	`You may only access the Service from within the territorial boundaries of the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or Singapore. Any access to your Account, whether by you or anyone else, from any location outside those countries is a breach of this Agreement.`
`12:33.18`	`sbu`	`ahh, server up`
`12:33.19`	`sbu`	`finally`
`12:33.29`	`vhaarr`	`Wobble: err`
`12:33.32`	`vhaarr`	`And what about EU?`
`12:33.41`	`Wobble`	`Well, I think they have their own line`
`12:33.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`different client, different tos`
`12:33.45`	`Deviad`	`and UMTS phones use hspda which is not supported.`
`12:33.45`	`Wobble`	`with appropriate locations`
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`12:33.55`	`Codayus`	`vhaarr: Apparently, euros can't play on US servers now? Hmm`
`12:33.59`	`Wobble`	`yeah =\`
`12:34.04`	`Wobble`	`I'm kinda glad I'm home`
`12:34.12`	`Wobble`	`cause I'd hate to have to play on the chinese servers`
`12:34.13`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`technically spekaing, yes`
`12:34.17`	`Codayus`	`Well, "shouldn't,`
`12:34.24`	`Codayus`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:34.26`	`Adirelle`	`hmm... and chineses can't play on european / american realms ?`
`12:34.28`	`vhaarr`	`You can easily run the US client in EU,`
`12:34.30`	`dotted`	`Doesnt it say that you cannot play on a US account from EU and visa verca?`
`12:34.36`	`vhaarr`	`Just swap the realm list.`
`12:34.38`	`Adirelle`	`s/can't/should'nt/`
`12:34.41`	`Srosh`	`Wobble, you mean TOU?`
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`12:35.07`	`dotted`	`well its a good counter meassure against gold sellers`
`12:35.10`	`Codayus`	`That's ONE way to try and address gold farmers, I guess.`
`12:35.12`	`Codayus`	`Hmm`
`12:35.19`	`Adirelle`	`that's mean now they can ban account just by playing from a unauthorized area`
`12:35.20`	`Daemona`	`uhm ag_UF target frame doesnt show combo points anymore?`
`12:35.29`	`Silviu--`	`[2007/01/10 13:28:51-86-x2]: ag_UnitFrames-0_o \ag_UnitClass.lua:1177: attempt to index field 'CastingBar' (a nil value)`
`12:35.31`	`Adirelle`	`Codayus : I think so`
`12:35.31`	`Wobble`	`Srosh: possibly`
`12:35.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`more than likely it's in there just to have their bases covered`
`12:35.48`	`Wobble`	`Making it TOU just means they can ban whoever they want if they're outside the borders`
`12:35.51`	`Wobble`	`not that they will`
`12:36.11`	`Codayus`	`There's already been problems with people on US military bases overseas getting banned from US servers...it's been bad publicity for Bliz.`
`12:36.15`	`dotted`	`well not permanently`
`12:36.35`	`Wobble`	`which sucks`
`12:36.38`	`Adirelle`	`it also means that this will be sufficient, they won't have to prove your a chinese farmer or the like`
`12:36.42`	`Codayus`	`Wobble: Hmm, actually, they can pretty much ban anyone at anytime anyhow...no?`
`12:36.43`	`dotted`	`must suck bad for them`
`12:36.43`	`Wobble`	`and a lot of my friends are playing from southeast asia`
`12:36.59`	`Wobble`	`Codayus: Well, this way they have legal recourse, I guess`
`12:36.59`	`snurre`	`hm, gotta check the EU one then.. MAN I hope we'll start banning chinese IP ranges`
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`12:37.11`	`Wobble`	`not that it really stops them`
`12:37.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`like it said, it's a cover-your-ass move.`
`12:37.20`	`Codayus`	`Actually, a good friend of mine is currently visiting relatives in taiwan...wonder if I should tell her to not try and make our BWL raid tomorrow? :-(`
`12:37.30`	`abbat_w`	`yep`
`12:37.35`	`abbat_w`	`ban all chinese`
`12:37.40`	`Wobble`	`ni bu lai =\`
`12:37.50`	`abbat_w`	`ni hao. 100 mian bao ok ty?`
`12:37.56`	`Wobble`	`rofl`
`12:38.10`	`Wobble`	`ni you shui?`
`12:38.16`	`Codayus`	`Wobble: Well, sorta. I'm not sure they've ever had any legal liability...and if they did, a TOU change is a pretty weak attempt to remove it...hm.`
`12:38.17`	`abbat_w`	`heh`
`12:38.20`	`Wobble`	`gei wo 100 shui xiexie`
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`12:38.26`	`snurre`	`they wont take actions just cause of foreign IPs`
`12:38.29`	`abbat_w`	`i know only 'mian bao' ;)`
`12:38.40`	`Adirelle`	`and well, that would be inefficient`
`12:38.42`	`Codayus`	`snurre: They have in the past, to my knowledge. Not often though.`
`12:38.46`	`snurre`	`but might use that to take actions if other special offenses have been made`
`12:39.12`	`Adirelle`	`I think it is no too hard to masquerade your IP adress`
`12:39.12`	`Deviad`	`Well, there are always socks and proxy servers guys`
`12:39.15`	`Wobble`	`like... y'know, it's a full moon`
`12:39.18`	`Codayus`	`And in the cases I'm aware of, they ended up unbanning the person involves. The aforementioned military base issue.`
`12:39.19`	`Wobble`	`or jupiter aligns with mars`
`12:39.34`	`Deviad`	`with all the money they earn it shouldn't be hard to pay for a shell and running a proxy server on it`
`12:39.45`	`Codayus`	`Heh`
`12:39.52`	`snurre`	`they will adapt if it's necessary`
`12:39.54`	`boone`	`hmm, is wau acting slow for anyone else, or is it something on my side?`
`12:40.09`	`Codayus`	`It's funny, trying to play through a tunnel will wreck your ping - making raiding hard, but farming still possible.`
`12:40.09`	`Adirelle`	`boone : EU server's up`
`12:40.10`	`vith`	`it's not just you`
`12:40.14`	`Deviad`	`I used to connect via a chinese proxy to play Lineage 2 beta when it was just in Korea and you couldn't play from any other part of the world which was not Asia`
`12:40.21`	`vith`	`i'm using coral cache with it now`
`12:40.25`	`boone`	`vith, ok, thanks`
`12:40.43`	`Deviad`	`So as you see there's a workaround :D`
`12:40.44`	`Wobble`	`I used to play from china, through Australia, to the US`
`12:40.53`	`Codayus`	`Wobble: !`
`12:40.56`	`Codayus`	`5 second lag? :-)`
`12:41.07`	`Wobble`	`it wasn't too far from the aussie lag, really =)`
`12:41.08`	`Deviad`	`It depends on the proxy :D`
`12:41.11`	`Wobble`	`2 sec max`
`12:41.12`	`Codayus`	`My guild has a lot of kiwis in it, actually....`
`12:41.13`	`vhaarr`	`Silviu-: Sec, let me fix.`
`12:41.16`	`Codayus`	`They seem to do alright.`
`12:41.20`	`dotted`	`snurre i looked trough the ToS and i cant find anything about playing outside EU`
`12:41.32`	`Wobble`	`Oz/NZ players just learn to play with 1 second lag`
`12:41.50`	`Codayus`	`Yeah...playing near to the physical server location is a crutch.`
`12:41.57`	`Wobble`	`it makes pvp hard`
`12:42.00`	`snurre`	`dotted: yeah, had a look myself`
`12:42.06`	`Wobble`	`but generally normal stuff can be predicted`
`12:42.23`	`Adirelle`	`Wobble: unless you play against ping-impaired peoples :)`
`12:42.32`	`vhaarr`	`Silviu-: Try now.`
`12:42.34`	`Wobble`	`also, I've given up on trying aoe frost farming on my mage`
`12:42.38`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24509 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: It's 'CastBar', not 'CastingBar'.`
`12:42.41`	`Wobble`	`And using a dagger spec rogue`
`12:42.57`	`Wobble`	`well, solo aoe farming`
`12:43.02`	`dotted`	`snurre: its probably illigal for blizz to have that rule in the EU anyways - or something`
`12:43.19`	`Codayus`	`Ah, yeah. In the US client, it's section 4, part A.`
`12:43.24`	`Deviad`	`Well, here in Italy everything is an EULA has no value`
`12:43.41`	`Deviad`	`in Italy when you buy something it's yours and you can do whatever you want`
`12:43.45`	`Stephmw`	`Codayus: I used to play on US servers from the EU`
`12:43.56`	`sbu`	`hm ok`
`12:44.00`	`Stephmw`	`Codayus: we usually had ~700ms lag`
`12:44.05`	`Codayus`	`Not too bad.`
`12:44.08`	`sbu`	`odt: where can i get dark portal quest?`
`12:44.10`	`Wobble`	`sounds normal Steph =)`
`12:44.31`	`Stephmw`	`Wobble: nah, ever since we took the plunge and rerolled EU, we get 30-170ms`
`12:44.32`	`xlvii`	`does anyone know if the 'CastBar' can be put on top of the unitframes? also, how do i make combat points reshow?`
`12:44.35`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`right outside the dark portal :P`
`12:44.39`	`Wobble`	`I tell you, fastcast was a blessing`
`12:44.57`	`Deviad`	`so when you buy WOW you buy WOW not a service, Blizzard considers wow as a service because American laws allow that.`
`12:45.00`	`Rashomon`	`vhaarr`
`12:45.04`	`Wobble`	`I've /stopcasting'd it into all my casting macros now =P`
`12:45.06`	`Codayus`	`I live on the US east coast, and play on a west coast server...my ping is often close to what Stephmw was getting from the EU. :-/`
`12:45.07`	`Nargiddley`	`yeah, fastcast is the one thing i miss from the 2.0 changes :/`
`12:45.11`	`Rashomon`	`sbu: I was wondering that too`
`12:45.14`	`vhaarr`	`Rashomon: yes?`
`12:45.14`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`sbu: dark portal Q?`
`12:45.21`	`Wobble`	`it's getting put into the client come TBC, isn't it?`
`12:45.37`	`Rashomon`	`vhaarr: mistell :)`
`12:45.42`	`xlvii`	`i get a constant 300ms+ ping..`
`12:45.54`	`Stephmw`	`Codayus: not surprised - I was only 4 hops from the NY routers, transatlantic usually adds 100ms`
`12:45.55`	`Wobble`	`bah, I get 500ms`
`12:46.04`	`snurre`	`im generally at 50-70 ping :)`
`12:46.07`	`sbu`	`EvilGrin\|Win: eww, kill felguards blahblah`
`12:46.08`	`[Ammo]`	`30-60ms usually here`
`12:46.11`	`xlvii`	`wobble, where do you play from?`
`12:46.13`	`snurre`	`but then, i live like 3-4kms from the server`
`12:46.14`	`Wobble`	`why is that short distance from here to bris so much difference =P`
`12:46.18`	`Wobble`	`Sydney`
`12:46.23`	`xlvii`	`haha`
`12:46.26`	`xlvii`	`i'm in brisbane ;D`
`12:46.27`	`Matrix110`	`i live 30km away from the fucking datacenter and always have 100+ -.-`
`12:46.37`	`Codayus`	`The dark portal quest is cool - almost 5g and a nifty tabard.`
`12:46.42`	`Codayus`	`Not bad.`
`12:46.51`	`xlvii`	`i see ;]`
`12:46.53`	`xlvii`	`lol.`
`12:46.56`	`Stephmw`	`if you're getting bad pings and you're physically close, check the traceroute`
`12:47.06`	`Stephmw`	`your packets may be going further afield :)`
`12:47.07`	`Toadkiller`	`Heh the pvp at the portal was nice too`
`12:47.12`	`Matrix110`	`nah traceroute is ok its the error correction--`
`12:47.17`	`Matrix110`	`from DSL`
`12:47.20`	`[Ammo]`	`Matrix110: doesn't mean your packets travel 30km too :p`
`12:47.23`	`[Ammo]`	`they can travel all over the place`
`12:47.29`	`Matrix110`	`they travel directly:P`
`12:47.47`	`[Ammo]`	`get a better datacenter :p`
`12:47.49`	`Wobin`	`Matrix110 has a hosepipe he's running out his window directly into the datacentre`
`12:47.58`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller: hey toadkiller, was looking for you`
`12:48.01`	Funkeh`	`wowace getting hammered?`
`12:48.06`	`Wobin`	Funkeh`: yeah
`12:48.07`	`[Ammo]`	`ofcourse it is`
`12:48.11`	`[Ammo]`	`patch day`
`12:48.13`	`[Ammo]`	`everyone updating`
`12:48.13`	`Matrix110`	`Well the problem is mainly the ADSL i have here:-(`
`12:48.15`	`xlvii`	`should i traceroute us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com ?`
`12:48.19`	`Deviad`	`Yeah btw, I see this new trick rather like a problem for normal players than for farmers`
`12:48.22`	`Wobin`	`2.0 has conditioned everyone into OMG the sky is falling`
`12:48.29`	`[Ammo]`	`this was 12 hours ago: [01:57] <@Kaelten> we've done 20GB of traffic in the last two hours`
`12:48.36`	`[Ammo]`	`imagine it way worse now`
`12:48.39`	Funkeh`	`LOL`
`12:48.43`	`Matrix110`	`but it was quite funny when i got routed over Asia to the datacenter which is 30km away!`
`12:48.56`	`Deviad`	`They should forbid NATting as well but if they do everyone is gonna kick blizzard's ass as NAT systems are spreading`
`12:49.08`	`Deviad`	`because of the lack of IP address ranges...`
`12:49.12`	Funkeh`	`im surprised it aint into low bandwith mode`
`12:49.23`	`dotted`	`http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.wow-europe.com/108440857.htm?posts=1 <- LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL`
`12:49.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres no lack of ip address ranges`
`12:49.32`	`dotted`	`stupid fuckers`
`12:49.39`	`Deviad`	`Arrowmaster, yeah there's.`
`12:49.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`its just half the address ranges are reserved and dont get used`
`12:50.04`	`Wobin`	`dotted: People actually asked if they needed the xpac?`
`12:50.16`	`Deviad`	`Well, in the end there's a lack of "usable" ip address ranges...`
`12:50.26`	`Deviad`	`ok? :D`
`12:50.29`	`xlvii`	`dotted, what's funny about that? ;p`
`12:50.30`	`Adirelle`	`Wobin : I'd rather say that people were asking if the CD/DVD were needed`
`12:50.35`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`cool, Curse is in the text django python random scriptlet error mode again.`
`12:50.36`	`Wobin`	`><`
`12:50.55`	`dotted`	`bah thought it said we had to have a CD in the drive to play -.-`
`12:50.57`	`Adirelle`	`there are internet shops that will send you CD-Key before the box itself`
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`12:51.06`	`Deviad`	`ipv4 doesn't allow to have more than a certain amount of ip addresses which when the Internet was born looked huge now it's not so huge anymore. :D`
`12:51.32`	`Wobin`	`After all`
`12:51.34`	`Wobin`	`we won't need more than 64k of memory`
`12:51.39`	`Deviad`	`Cos we have handheld systems, fridges connected to the Internet and so on`
`12:51.51`	`snurre`	`the tubes are getting clogged!`
`12:51.59`	`Wobin`	`Quick, bring the dump trucks!`
`12:52.02`	`evl`	`"Razorgore's adds are reportedly continuing to spawn after phase 1 is over"`
`12:52.08`	`evl`	`Ahhh, back to the good old days!`
`12:52.14`	`Wobin`	`The days of DEATH`
`12:52.15`	`Deviad`	`so one solution to solve the issue temporarily is NATTING: using more devices behind a router which masks their IPs and redirects the connections`
`12:52.24`	`Adirelle`	`dotted : now, i don't think you'll need the CD to launch the game, just that you will need it to "enable XPAC mode"`
`12:52.27`	`krka`	`just use NAT, every computer doesn't need to be a server`
`12:52.38`	`Deviad`	`So to forbid proxying they should forbid natting as well`
`12:52.58`	`Deviad`	`and if they do so everyone is gonna kick their asses cos no one can connect anymore`
`12:52.59`	`Deviad`	`:D`
`12:53.08`	`sbu`	`WTB quest-guy for dark portal`
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`12:53.33`	`Wobin`	`he's behind the couch`
`12:53.36`	`Wobin`	`where you left him`
`12:53.45`	`renchap`	`wtb Kaelten`
`12:53.45`	`Wobin`	`or someone killed him`
`12:53.50`	`evl`	`at ur momz`
`12:53.55`	`renchap`	`need to set up my mirror ^^`
`12:54.18`	`sbu`	`Wobin: uhm no - there are some other creatures :/`
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`12:54.46`	`Deviad`	`Adirelle, I downloaded the beta client from www.boomtown.net and preordered the cd key on an Irish shop. :P`
`12:55.11`	`Deviad`	`So everything I gotta do is waiting for the 16th to come.`
`12:56.18`	`Deviad`	`I guess there will be an update from beta to final`
`12:56.36`	`Adirelle`	`Deviad : yes, that is in the box...`
`12:56.47`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Deviad: maybe, but theyve said a couple times that you'll need the cd, so it's unlikely you can just use existing beta clients`
`12:56.50`	`Deviad`	`well someone will put it on-line I hope`
`12:56.57`	`Adirelle`	`Deviad : that's the point of http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.wow-europe.com/108440857.htm?posts=1`
`12:57.03`	`Matrix110`	`they said that beta is total unsupported it might work but it might not`
`12:57.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`which really means "dont bet on it" :P`
`12:57.45`	`Matrix110`	`Adirelle that goes for the normal client he has the TBC Beta Client`
`12:57.52`	`snurre`	`you wont be able to use the beta client, just like you had to completely reinstall for alpha->beta`
`12:58.09`	`Adirelle`	`Matrix110: whenever, I won't bet on it...`
`12:58.16`	`Matrix110`	`i wont`
`12:58.17`	`Wobin`	`night all`
`12:58.37`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`indeed, as it's 5 am here i'm heading to sleep. night.`
`12:58.50`	`Matrix110`	`i already downloaded the german crap for my original client even though i still use the CLosed BEta client from 2years ago`
`12:59.01`	`Deviad`	`Adirelle, since an "invisible" code inside the cd-rom which is checked by an activex and seen if it matches the cd key they have in their database`
`12:59.15`	`Deviad`	`looks a heavy stuff`
`12:59.46`	`Matrix110`	`erm why should Blizzard care atall about the Copyprotection`
`13:00.06`	`Adirelle`	`Matrix110 : to sell the boxes ?`
`13:00.12`	`Matrix110`	`You have to anyway?`
`13:00.16`	`Adirelle`	`and make a bit more money with them ?`
`13:00.17`	`Matrix110`	`no matter what you do?`
`13:00.17`	`Deviad`	`I guess you will just need to find an ISO of the game or making an ISO of it and storing it on your HDD :P`
`13:00.23`	`snurre`	`the asians, they've been able to crack auth keys before`
`13:00.43`	`Hjalte`	`Uh oh.. My WoW just crashed with a critical error after having installed patch?`
`13:00.49`	`Adirelle`	`Yes, that's why I'm saying to Deviad, that cd-key alone may not be sufficient`
`13:01.02`	`Adirelle`	`and he may be forced to wait until it receives his box`
`13:01.18`	`Matrix110`	`You need to either way get a key and insert it online and Blizzard checks it they dont need to care at all about copy protection tbh..`
`13:01.20`	`Rashomon`	`Does anyone know where to get that Dark Portal quest?`
`13:01.49`	`xlvii`	`how do i make my combat point show up again with ag_uf?`
`13:01.58`	`Deviad`	`Matrix110, well a double system verification in my opinion would be too expensive`
`13:02.21`	`Matrix110`	`ofc it is its online only`
`13:02.24`	`snurre`	`they wont add a double system.. ffs, theyre not even adding verification for trial account creation grr`
`13:02.28`	`Matrix110`	`you need only the Key rest doesnt matter`
`13:02.36`	`Stephmw`	`Hjalte: there have been reports of crashes after the patch on the forums`
`13:02.45`	`Deviad`	`cool ^^`
`13:02.49`	`Adirelle`	`Deviad : at simple .dll saying "hey, i'm really coming from a CD-box" will do the trick but yes, DL'ing it may be sufficient`
`13:02.53`	`Stephmw`	`and as the key is checked centrally - it's easy to check`
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`13:03.03`	`Hjalte`	`Stephmw: Thanks. O`
`13:03.08`	`Matrix110`	`But it might be that your client and even the BC beta client CANT run properly`
`13:03.13`	`Hjalte`	`- I'll take a look on the forums`
`13:03.28`	`Deviad`	`Adirelle, yeah in the end getting the ISO from the usual sites and stuff will do the trick`
`13:03.40`	`Deviad`	`and I'm sure it will be out as soon as someone puts his hands on it :D`
`13:03.57`	`snurre`	`" When the game goes live, you will need to uninstall your Beta client before installing the Expansion Pack"`
`13:04.11`	`Matrix110`	`getting the ISO is completly pointless you need the key anway and get the Box with it..`
`13:04.14`	`Deviad`	`oh cool I haven't installed the beta client yet :D`
`13:04.26`	`Deviad`	`Matrix110, I said I preordered the key`
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`13:04.38`	`Deviad`	`and as I don't wanna spend for delivering I'm not getting the box`
`13:04.42`	`Deviad`	`so I'll download the ISO :D`
`13:04.49`	`snurre`	`hm, blue post " From the current info that's been coming, it looks like using the Beta client to connect isn't an option."`
`13:04.54`	`Matrix110`	`ic`
`13:05.17`	`Adirelle`	`I'm interested in knowing what will happen to you deviad :)`
`13:05.22`	`Adirelle`	`i mean, really`
`13:05.36`	`Deviad`	`what's so special?`
`13:05.43`	`Deviad`	`I don't have the box of wow too`
`13:05.53`	`Deviad`	`I bought the key from a shop and registered with it`
`13:06.00`	`Deviad`	`I got the client from boomtown ^^`
`13:06.08`	`Matrix110`	`The funny thing is the shop could claim your account:P`
`13:06.18`	`snurre`	`theyre doing things slightly different with TBC than game launch though`
`13:06.27`	`Matrix110`	`as you need the box incl Key to be the real owner`
`13:06.32`	`snurre`	`what worked at launch does not necessarily work now`
`13:06.48`	`xlvii`	`how do i make my combat point show up again with ag_uf?`
`13:07.00`	`Srosh`	`it might still be possible by editing the realmlist.wtf, however, if you run into any problems, you can be sure that the first thing Blizz will say is: install retail TBC (and WoW)`
`13:07.07`	`[Ammo]`	`xlvii: delete saved vars afaik`
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`13:07.54`	`xlvii`	`ammo, just of ag_uf? or all of them? >_>`
`13:08.06`	`[Ammo]`	`aguf only should work`
`13:08.17`	`xlvii`	`thanks ammo`
`13:09.06`	`[Ammo]`	`hahaha "Since Patch 2.03 Ironforge has become "Eisenschmiede" in German Clients."`
`13:09.12`	`[Ammo]`	`germans got owned`
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`13:09.19`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: thanks for the hunter code & testing on AutoBar!`
`13:09.37`	`poptix`	`whats up with wowace.com`
`13:09.46`	`poptix`	`need more bandwidth or what`
`13:10.05`	`[Ammo]`	`1k+ concurrent connections`
`13:10.07`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller: well, in fact, i tested it further yesterday and it doesn't work all the time`
`13:10.09`	`[Ammo]`	`is the main issue`
`13:10.10`	`sbu`	`mhh`
`13:10.11`	`sbu`	`AE event`
`13:10.34`	`Toadkiller`	`Try the latest I extended what you did & made it bulletproof i think`
`13:10.36`	`Srosh`	`[Ammo], it gets even better: they renamed Grom Hellscream to Grom Höllenschrei =P god, good that I use the enGB client`
`13:10.36`	`poptix`	`[Ammo]: http load, SVN load, what?`
`13:10.51`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller: but I wouldn't tweak the code more before talking with you (and well, I've been requested for a raid)`
`13:11.00`	`[Ammo]`	`poptix: 1k+ concurrent connections`
`13:11.04`	`[Ammo]`	`and svn runs over http`
`13:11.07`	`[Ammo]`	`so go figure`
`13:11.13`	`Toadkiller`	`It should jsut work at this point without any more tweaking`
`13:11.21`	`steev`	`[Ammo]: deleteing the sv file for aguf didn't work here`
`13:11.38`	`[Ammo]`	`steev: dunno then`
`13:12.01`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller: that's what I thought, but sometimes I use the item instead of giving it to the pet`
`13:12.44`	`Adirelle`	`but this only happens on consumable items, "inert" pet food works nice`
`13:13.02`	`steev`	`[Ammo]: works for me, i don't tend to pay attention to them too much anyways :)`
`13:14.13`	`Adirelle`	`I think there's some messing up the attributes, I think the only four needed are type="spell", spell name, target-bag and target-slot`
`13:14.44`	`Adirelle`	`but I won't be surprised if autoself cast could cause trouble (though I disabled it)`
`13:15.10`	`Adirelle`	`or maybe another, as I said, didn't have much time to test`
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`13:15.30`	`CIA-17`	`03tornhoof * r24510 10Yata/ (TotemBar.lua TotemButton.lua):`
`13:15.30`	`CIA-17`	`Yata:`
`13:15.30`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed Button NormalTexture (aka Border) for good`
`13:15.30`	`Toadkiller`	`adirelle: you missed 1 case, and I added the spell name in directly so it should work in all cases now.`
`13:16.30`	`Toadkiller`	`yeah i wasted a ton of time trying to get selfcast going, turns out simply enabling it in blizz interface was all it took. doh!`
`13:16.46`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`:)`
`13:17.37`	`Deviad`	`Cool we don't need to have the cd-rom inside the driver every time you wanna play`
`13:17.49`	`Deviad`	`so there isn't like a fingerprint in the cd-rom that is checked everytime`
`13:18.08`	`Adirelle`	`toadkiller: oki, I'll look that`
`13:18.09`	`Deviad`	`so it was just a matter of space, they didn't want to provide a too big patch`
`13:18.13`	`Toadkiller`	`dont need crap like that when you have authenticated central servers...`
`13:18.15`	`Deviad`	`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=108440857&sid=1&pageNo=2`
`13:18.17`	`Deviad`	`read this`
`13:18.31`	`Deviad`	`It was just a matter of bandwidth usage then`
`13:18.50`	`Deviad`	`cool, I'll will just grab an ISO from somewhere or patch the beta client`
`13:19.11`	`Deviad`	`by modifing some files :D`
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`13:19.17`	`Toadkiller`	`no more likely it is marketing: people can get their game wrapped in a nice box`
`13:19.19`	`xlvii`	`[Ammo]: didn't work, lol.`
`13:19.34`	`[Ammo]`	`then I don't know`
`13:19.49`	`xlvii`	`thanks anyway.`
`13:19.50`	`xlvii`	`;_;`
`13:19.51`	`Deviad`	`Toadkiller, I'm one of those who don't care of the box. :D`
`13:19.57`	`xlvii`	`now i just wait around.`
`13:20.02`	`Deviad`	`I really dunno where to put another box in my home, I have so many boxes around ^^`
`13:20.04`	`Adirelle`	`toadkiller : btw, I have battleground item showing outside of them, localization trouble ?`
`13:20.17`	`Bver__`	`man, i getting crazy pet errors :(`
`13:20.22`	`Stephmw`	`Don't forget that shareholders depend on market analysis to see how well a game is going... and they count sold boxes`
`13:20.26`	`Stephmw`	`not downloads`
`13:21.43`	`Toadkiller`	`adirelle: mmm which bg item? or all of them>?`
`13:22.00`	`Adirelle`	`toadkiller : pots`
`13:22.01`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Stephmw: well, that's the fault of market analyzers, not us.`
`13:22.24`	`Adirelle`	`but well, I didn't digged the code to check why, it's may be trivial`
`13:22.39`	`dotted`	`Stephmw well if thay get the same amount of money by download as retail CD why would thay care how it gets out? Just look at Valve`
`13:22.54`	`Toadkiller`	`steph: uhm no, the math for blizzard = #of active users * subscription / month * 12 = billions`
`13:23.04`	`Stephmw`	`kenlyric\|work: of course - it's just another datapoint explaining normal distribution channel versus download-only`
`13:23.05`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Dotted: well, look at what vivendi tried to do to valve.`
`13:23.38`	`dotted`	`kenlyric\|work but failed ^^`
`13:23.41`	`Stephmw`	`Toadkiller: exactly... that's the Math for _blizzard_ not for its investors - they have to use that in addition to surge from sales`
`13:23.52`	`CIA-17`	`03beerke * r24512 10KingOfTheJungle/ (KingOfTheJungleUIDiets.lua KingOfTheJungleUIFoods.lua):`
`13:23.52`	`CIA-17`	`KingOfTheJungle :`
`13:23.52`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixing display issue in Food and Diets tabs`
`13:24.07`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Yes, but unlike Valve, Vivdendi owns blizzard, instead of just being their distribution partner.`
`13:24.10`	`poptix`	`the box at the store includes advertising junk, and marketing sales numbers`
`13:24.37`	`poptix`	`best buy == 'hey, we sold a bunch of WoW TBC, give it more shelf space'`
`13:24.46`	`kenlyric\|work`	`the box at the store drives sales to the store, which the store (or more properly the chain) is very "grateful" for.`
`13:24.47`	`dotted`	`kenlyric\|work then vivendi would get the same ammount of money anyway`
`13:24.55`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Also it drives sales of other titles by the distributor.`
`13:25.18`	`Srosh`	`oh fuck, the reoccurring BG queue sounds are back =/`
`13:25.19`	`Adirelle`	`toadkiller : i see what a missed`
`13:25.40`	`sbu`	`hm`
`13:25.47`	`sbu`	`anything event related in winterspring? :)`
`13:26.21`	`Bver__`	`Im getting a ton of PetActionButton errors now, dont know why :(`
`13:26.27`	`Adirelle`	`toadkiller : but I think "rightClickTargetsPet" should be "right click feed pet" in the UI to make it more clear`
`13:26.41`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Like i've said before, we stopped washing our clothes on rocks in the river and carving books into stone tablets. We'll stop selling software in physical form soon enough.`
`13:27.23`	`Gagorian`	`Any warlock experimented with the new coefficient of soul fire?`
`13:27.53`	`Adirelle`	`toadkiller : as you can sometimes use consumable on your pet (I once bandaged my pet)`
`13:28.34`	`kenlyric\|work`	`you know, I wouldn't mind even having to buy the key in a store. I just hate having to keep the CDs around once I've installed it. I rebuild my computer(s) far too often, and doing the CD install thing sucks.`
`13:28.35`	`Tornhoof`	`did that zip from svn script die?`
`13:28.40`	`Toadkiller`	`adirelle good point, I need to handle both`
`13:28.56`	`kenlyric\|work`	`so, hows the server doing this morning?`
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`13:29.33`	`Adirelle`	`toadkiller : well... that's really really rare, you can handle it for completness or drop it for easiness`
`13:29.33`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`hej all`
`13:29.41`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`can someone help ? i think im stupid`
`13:29.51`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`i want to configure timestamp on Prat`
`13:29.59`	`Toadkiller`	`adirelle: hehe drop it for laziness till someone requests it`
`13:30.15`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`i want it to output time like this: [14:30] fpr example, i had it like this before`
`13:30.26`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`i think it must be [%H:%i] ?`
`13:30.27`	`xlvii`	`wow, rofl.`
`13:30.35`	`xlvii`	`no wonder i couldn't SS spam like i used to!`
`13:30.41`	`xlvii`	`talents are refunded, lol.`
`13:30.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`haha`
`13:31.10`	`poptix`	`heh`
`13:31.15`	`xlvii`	`how do i make my combat point show up again with ag_uf?`
`13:31.44`	`Toadkiller`	`man feral druids feel like you have a rogue attacking you now`
`13:31.54`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`what i the new bar @ aguf for ?`
`13:32.28`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`on my status window i have my HP, my MP, my EXP bar and then theres a new bar there ^^ but it dont shoe anything`
`13:32.41`	`dotted`	`rep?`
`13:32.43`	`kenlyric\|work`	`attack something.`
`13:32.45`	`poptix`	`Nemesis\Vagas: if you want [hour:minute] it should be [%H:%M]`
`13:32.47`	`renchap`	`cast bar`
`13:32.59`	`poptix`	`unless WoW/prat use something other than the standard strftime() functions`
`13:33.12`	`Klazar`	`Gagorian: I tried DrDamage last night on my priest, only tooltip showing was on the "heal" cast. I had all kinds of other issues though with the patch and have not updated everything yet. Will try it again as soon as I get my ui updated`
`13:33.38`	`Trancer`	seen ag`
`13:33.41`	`Trancer`	!seen ag`
`13:33.43`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`poptix: thx, worked ^^`
`13:34.06`	`kenlyric\|work`	~seen ag`
`13:34.35`	`purl`	ag` <n=ag`@0x535bbf63.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17h 26m 56s ago, saying: 'I'm just trying to figure out where I should have it relative to the XP bar'.
`13:34.35`	`poptix`	`aww, it's a purlbot`
`13:34.35`	`poptix`	`purl: 1+1?`
`13:34.42`	`purl`	`well, 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1`
`13:34.42`	`kenlyric\|work`	`oh, no purl.`
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`13:34.43`	`poptix`	`or not`
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`13:34.44`	`Trancer`	`hehe kenlyric\|work, that's the right syntax but purl is being daft ::/`
`13:34.44`	`Trancer`	`oh, there he is`
`13:34.44`	`kenlyric\|work`	`oh there it is.`
`13:34.52`	`poptix`	`ah, <3`
`13:34.56`	`kenlyric\|work`	`he really should be opped so we know if he is here. or at least +v`
`13:35.05`	`poptix`	`purl: karma blizzard`
`13:35.05`	`purl`	`blizzard has neutral karma`
`13:35.11`	`poptix`	`blizzard--`
`13:35.52`	`poptix`	`guess that isn't used much =P`
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`13:36.36`	`poptix`	`anyone else notice that /target is horribly broken?`
`13:36.42`	`kenlyric\|work`	`uh huh.`
`13:37.05`	`poptix`	`it was funny clearing half of naxx tonight, not actually being able to /target, decurse, or click on unitframes =O`
`13:37.06`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I don't remember where blizzard is in the denial stage.`
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`13:37.38`	`Tornhoof`	`poptix the default blz raidframes are not secure anymore`
`13:37.41`	`poptix`	`pretty sure blizzard marketing is pushing out the broken patches`
`13:37.43`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Stage 1: Its your mods. Stage 2: Changed functionality. Stage 3: Its your mods. Stage 4: Bug.`
`13:37.46`	`Tornhoof`	`means you can do nothing on it ;)`
`13:37.59`	`poptix`	`Tornhoof: nice`
`13:38.10`	`poptix`	`there were a few great posts`
`13:38.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`the raidframes are secure`
`13:38.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`but the raid tab in the social frame arent`
`13:38.47`	`kenlyric\|work`	`yeah tornhoof, an important distinction to make. I wet myself yesterday when someone told me that.`
`13:39.01`	`poptix`	`OP: 'halp, i can't click on anything', poster2: disable your mods OP: I DID poster3: install mods! OP: THAT FIXED IT, KTHNXBAI`
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`13:40.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah a lot of stuff got fucked up because of a simple error, one function starting its counting at 0 and another starting its counting at 1`
`13:40.14`	`poptix`	`mm, sounds like NASA`
`13:40.28`	`poptix`	`speaking of 1's and 0's`
`13:40.33`	`kenlyric\|work`	`ewwww.`
`13:40.56`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : in fact, that's not BG-specific pots, but thoses PvP pots you can buy at Stormwind`
`13:40.58`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Nothing quite like a coder starting counting at 1 like a common human.`
`13:41.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`nah NASA was a measurement system conversion error, and now theyre switching to all metric`
`13:41.10`	`poptix`	`GetQuestLogQuestText() is broken`
`13:41.26`	`poptix`	`er, GetQuestLogTitle()`
`13:41.54`	`Trancer`	`anyone with SVN access to ag_Uf? Some small bug in locales`
`13:41.59`	`Adirelle`	`wooohooo... allakhazam localized their search page`
`13:42.01`	`poptix`	`the 5th returned value (isHeader) is always returning true =O`
`13:42.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`well sometime you have to start counting at 1 with computers`
`13:42.55`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`hmm`
`13:43.06`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`somehow prat doesnt show the Chatbutton ?`
`13:43.15`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`oh`
`13:43.18`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`it shoes chat buttons`
`13:43.23`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`but not the chat-menu button`
`13:43.31`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`and thats the only i need ;/`
`13:43.38`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=17351`
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`13:43.41`	`Adirelle`	`this one`
`13:43.55`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`i can activate chatmenu - button, but dont show it`
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`13:46.28`	`*** join/#wowace Gandharva (n=chatzill@dslb-084-057-053-011.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`13:46.58`	`*** join/#wowace chuckg (i=chuckg@66-237-5-116.starstream.net)`
`13:47.27`	`poptix`	`only mod I have that breaks every time I update it`
`13:48.50`	`*** join/#wowace Mikma (i=mikma@reaktio.net)`
`13:48.57`	`Health`	`http://www.blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/107571877.htm - wth, raid tips from CMs? HEHE`
`13:49.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`hehe i had one guildmate that was promoting trinitybars right after 2.0 while i was promoting bartender3, lets just say bartender3 got used by more people in my guild in the end and a few make comments about how much easyer it is to use than trinity`
`13:49.11`	`Adirelle`	`what's NASA you're talking about ?`
`13:50.04`	`snurre`	`Health: crezax is a hardcore raider, so :p`
`13:51.16`	`Mikma`	`Arrowmaster: Trinity is easy??`
`13:51.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats the opposite of what i said`
`13:53.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`Joystick Port Patented, Now the Lawsuit http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/10/1312239 LOL`
`13:53.55`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Trinity is a good bar mod that is killed by a few fatal flaws`
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`13:54.42`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it really bugs me that ctrl-insert and shift-insert work in every microsoft application except for office.`
`13:55.07`	`[Ammo]`	`trinity's coding ain't very pretty`
`13:55.07`	`Adirelle`	`kenlyric\|work : use ctrl+c/v/x :)`
`13:55.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh wow this is going to be a funny lawsuit, the patent was filed for in 1998`
`13:55.16`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Adirelle doesn't work in putty.`
`13:55.17`	`[Ammo]`	`the Trinity.lua file starts off with 100+ globals? :)`
`13:55.47`	`Mikma`	`Trinity = Addon`
`13:55.54`	`Mikma`	`Loaded = NotYet`
`13:56.30`	`Trancer`	`hihi @ raid trouble :P guess we get a mini patch`
`13:56.37`	`sbu`	`raid trouble?`
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`13:56.50`	`sbu`	`whats wrong?`
`13:56.57`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Muahaha.`
`13:57.07`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`There's a "little" bug with name matching in raid groups.`
`13:57.13`	`Trancer`	`ehm`
`13:57.14`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`try to move, promote, kick, ignore someone . . .`
`13:57.17`	`Adirelle`	`kenlyric\|work: you're using putty to access a window box ?`
`13:57.18`	`Trancer`	`if you promote someone, it promotes a random`
`13:57.20`	`Trancer`	`you can't kick`
`13:57.22`	`Trancer`	`you can't ignore`
`13:57.24`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`and you get someone else seemingly at random from the raid.`
`13:57.25`	`sbu`	`lol`
`13:57.28`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: what do you think: dont show the bg only pots at all exccept in bg, or show but disable? I think it used to not show them but im not sure`
`13:57.29`	`Trancer`	`it does totally randomshit ;)`
`13:57.32`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`oh, you can kick . . .`
`13:57.36`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`just not who you intended to.`
`13:57.40`	`sbu`	`%-)`
`13:57.42`	`sbu`	`nice`
`13:57.43`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Adirelle: no, I"m using putty to access linux boxes.`
`13:57.44`	`Trancer`	`there is a trick tho, using /script`
`13:57.56`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`as well as their breaking the freaking default ui target frame.`
`13:58.03`	`Trancer`	`heh yup`
`13:58.07`	`poptix`	`trinitybars is very easy to use, and does what I want.. it's just that it does a lot of things I don't want too`
`13:58.12`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`and a bug where if you pull a group out of the raid panel to make a raid frame, and then close it . . .`
`13:58.23`	`Adirelle`	`kenlyric\|work: so you're trying to paste text from office to putty ? just use right-click in putty (or middle-click, which i'm used to since I try xterm...)`
`13:58.25`	`Trancer`	`bagnon is broken aswell`
`13:58.30`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`it keeps spontaneously reappearing, until you reload or relog`
`13:58.38`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Adirelle: I know how to do it.`
`13:58.41`	`kenlyric\|work`	`It just bugs me.`
`13:58.44`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Naxx last night was a pain in the ass.`
`13:58.45`	`poptix`	`like randomly reducing my FPS to flip frame speeds in a raid, or completely losing its config after an upgrade`
`13:58.45`	`Adirelle`	`lol`
`13:58.54`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I mean, if windows didn't support Ctrl-Insert/Shift-Insert at all, it would be fine.`
`13:59.00`	`Adirelle`	`what bugs is not being able to mouseè-copy-paste in windows :D`
`13:59.01`	`kenlyric\|work`	`but it does. In every application but office.`
`13:59.21`	`Adirelle`	`s/is/me is/`
`13:59.24`	`kenlyric\|work`	`well, I have those two commands bound to my mouse buttons 4 and 5, so I do have mouse copy paste3 :)`
`13:59.33`	`Adirelle`	`eek...`
`13:59.35`	`Mikma`	`poptix: sounds like a good addon`
`13:59.36`	`Adirelle`	`well...`
`13:59.43`	`poptix`	`Mikma: it used to be =P`
`13:59.50`	`kenlyric\|work`	`but sometimes I"ll forget and do it in office, and ooops, no copy :)`
`13:59.51`	`poptix`	`before 2.0, I was happier with Flexbar`
`13:59.53`	`nee-lap`	`For some reason I can not bind my mousewheel up and down buttons`
`13:59.58`	`Trancer`	`kenlyric\|work: it doesn't work in cmd.exe either! ;p`
`14:00.00`	`poptix`	`unfortunately development is all but dead on it for 2.0`
`14:00.03`	`Adirelle`	`I just found an use to my buttons 4 and 5`
`14:00.08`	`Trancer`	`I am happy that WoW support ^W`
`14:00.09`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Trancer, uh.`
`14:00.12`	`kenlyric\|work`	`since when?`
`14:00.19`	`Trancer`	`dunno, it doesn't here`
`14:00.29`	`kenlyric\|work`	`oh wait, no copy paste works in cmd.exe :)`
`14:00.30`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller: they don't look disabled, err, i think they don't`
`14:00.45`	`kenlyric\|work`	`mouse selection doesn't work in cmd.exe ;)`
`14:01.04`	`Trancer`	`kenlyric\|work: it does, but rightclick + mark (sucks :/)`
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`14:01.18`	`Adirelle`	`kenlyric\|work: the window shell window is a crap`
`14:01.19`	`Trancer`	`oh well, back to Word.. stinking papers`
`14:01.29`	`Toadkiller`	`adirelle: right now they are not whcih is wrong. I think I will just disable & fade them out so you can at least see if you have any b4 going to bg`
`14:01.40`	`Trancer`	`anyone around with access to ag_Unitframes SVN to commit a small bugfix?`
`14:02.46`	`kagaro`	`Gagorian: DrDamage is very cool`
`14:03.01`	`[Ammo]`	`Trancer: what bugfix`
`14:03.15`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : that's an option, personnaly I'd rather look into my bags than having an unusable item in the bar, but that's a personnal feeling`
`14:03.18`	`Trancer`	`[Ammo]: locales error, in ag_Unitframes-eUS.lua is Rare-Elite`
`14:03.27`	`Trancer`	`in the watchdogtags he uses Rare Elite`
`14:03.34`	`Trancer`	`locales needs to be updated`
`14:03.40`	`[Ammo]`	`or the other way around :p`
`14:03.46`	`Trancer`	`or the other way around, yeps ;)`
`14:03.58`	`Amadeo`	`I hope Alterac Mountains is going to be a good server, because I transferred all my chars there :P`
`14:04.01`	`Trancer`	`other way around is probly easier :p`
`14:04.04`	`haste`	`http://www.xkcd.net/ :D:D`
`14:04.09`	`Amadeo`	`Well, not all, but off Skullcrusher!`
`14:04.16`	`Trancer`	`hehe yeah haste, current is fun :)`
`14:04.18`	`kagaro`	`anyone on a german client?`
`14:04.21`	`Trancer`	`Amadeo: EU or US?`
`14:04.24`	`kenlyric\|work`	`welcome to my secret lair on skullcrusher mountain.`
`14:04.24`	`Amadeo`	`US`
`14:04.29`	`Adirelle`	`kenlyric\|work: if they were a open-source way to change the application windows uses for shells, I would use it`
`14:04.46`	`[Ammo]`	`Trancer: comitting`
`14:04.47`	`Trancer`	`Adirelle: there are some afaik, but they are all brr.`
`14:04.47`	`poptix`	`alright, I have a solution to the slow server problems`
`14:04.49`	`Trancer`	`thanks [Ammo]`
`14:04.54`	`poptix`	`we all /roll, and update our addons in order.`
`14:05.09`	`poptix`	`=O`
`14:05.11`	`Adirelle`	`Trancer: I wish putty could do it`
`14:05.14`	`Trancer`	`or we use torrents!`
`14:05.19`	`Hjalte`	`I rolled 100! Stand back please.`
`14:05.21`	`kenlyric\|work`	`poptix, well, isn't that what the server should do?`
`14:05.23`	`Adirelle`	`poptix : olol`
`14:05.34`	`poptix`	`=P`
`14:05.43`	`kagaro`	`anyone on a german client and in IronForge?`
`14:05.54`	`poptix`	`half an hour now and i'm only down to 'ag_UnitFrames'`
`14:06.00`	`Trancer`	`wouldn't be a bad idea tbh, change the WAU to use p2p, dunno if people keep it launched long enough tho, heh`
`14:06.14`	`Adirelle`	`hmm... what about fetching addon in random order ? :)`
`14:06.22`	`poptix`	`Trancer: p2p is horrid for something like this`
`14:06.28`	`Amadeo`	`haha, look at the Imp with Black Book - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VnZNQm2Eks`
`14:06.28`	`poptix`	`at least, bittorrent is`
`14:06.35`	`Trancer`	`bittorrent will be, files are too small`
`14:06.40`	`Amadeo`	`and potions :P`
`14:06.41`	`kenlyric\|work`	`poptix: or, only update the addons you have a problem with.`
`14:07.00`	`poptix`	`kenlyric\|work: i'm having a problem with a number of addons i haven't updated in a while =)`
`14:07.20`	`Adirelle`	`kenlyric\|work: you meant all that are said outdated by wow ? :D`
`14:08.10`	`poptix`	`that, and having 50 copies of every lib was starting to annoy me`
`14:08.13`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Adirelle: I haven't updated anything. They all work for me. Though I did update the evening before the patch.`
`14:08.17`	`Silviu--`	`Amadeo and sl`
`14:08.20`	`kenlyric\|work`	`But all of my mods are outdated and working fine.`
`14:08.23`	`Silviu--`	`but still omg nice dmg :))`
`14:08.37`	`Silviu--`	`Didn�t let my imp do that must try it out hehe`
`14:08.42`	`kenlyric\|work`	`poptix, yeah, I need to learn how to use standalones one of these days. embeds is fine when you use 3 or 4 ace mods, but not when you use 35.`
`14:08.47`	`Adirelle`	`kenlyric\|work: was joking ;) imagning people who don't check "load outdated addons"`
`14:08.49`	`Trancer`	`giev black book, damnit`
`14:09.03`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Adirelle: oh yeah :)`
`14:09.10`	`kenlyric\|work`	`This was my first patch EVER where I didn't forget that.`
`14:09.10`	`poptix`	`kenlyric\|work: i'm using WoWAceUpdater, it seems to have a good job of not installing embeds`
`14:09.14`	`nee-lap`	`all my ace addons are embedded, I have 40 or so :)`
`14:09.24`	`kenlyric\|work`	`poptix well, you ahve to have the embeds somewhere.`
`14:09.56`	`poptix`	`kenlyric\|work: s/not installing embeds/not installing a copy of the lib for every addon/`
`14:09.58`	`Amadeo`	`Silviu--: Yeah :)`
`14:09.58`	`kenlyric\|work`	`unless I'm not understanding the concept of what "with externals" means.`
`14:10.10`	`nee-lap`	`I thought there was no difference between embedded/standalone apart from with the initial loading time.`
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`14:10.33`	`Adirelle`	`btw, outdated mean "interface mismatch" and not "interface lower that needed"`
`14:10.35`	`poptix`	`nee-lap: there isn't really, aside from occasionally having different versions`
`14:10.40`	`nee-lap`	`oki`
`14:10.53`	`nee-lap`	`No need for standalone for me then.`
`14:10.54`	`Adirelle`	`I took me about 5 minutes to figure why baggins weren't loaded`
`14:10.56`	`kenlyric\|work`	`well, considering I backup my addons folder to a USB flash drive, having several hundred unnecessary files slows down the process some. Not something critical, so I haven't worried too much about it, but something I'd like to do eventually.`
`14:11.01`	`renchap`	`and less downloads to do with wau`
`14:11.02`	`kenlyric\|work`	`without it breaking stuff, of course.`
`14:11.14`	`poptix`	`nee-lap: still, it was annoying me when backing up, updating, looking at loading bars, etc.`
`14:11.38`	`Toadkiller`	`nee-lap: if you dont use the embedded libs then you are responsible for making it all work. I would not recommend it`
`14:11.38`	`poptix`	`and i did end up using less memory in the end, as all my ace addons started using the same lib versions`
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`14:11.53`	`Adirelle`	`I updated it yesterday after the US patch be before EU one, so I ended up with an 20003 addon on a 20001 client...`
`14:11.56`	`kenlyric\|work`	`poptix: which isn't necessarily always a good thing :)`
`14:12.14`	`poptix`	`kenlyric\|work: i'm smart enough to fix any issues myself`
`14:12.21`	`kenlyric\|work`	`meh, I"m lazy.`
`14:12.31`	`kenlyric\|work`	`that's why I use wau in the first place ;)`
`14:12.36`	`poptix`	`=)`
`14:12.46`	`poptix`	`i have a habit of picking up limited use programming languages`
`14:12.57`	`Trancer`	`Adirelle: yeah, then you need to load out of date aswell, heh`
`14:13.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`heh same`
`14:13.15`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I do an update every few days, or when I see fix I want, and then I do an update without version checking less frequently to get embed changes.`
`14:13.15`	`Trancer`	`Adirelle: but I guess they do that so that people won't just set the TOC to 9999 and never bother again`
`14:13.16`	`inph`	`kenlyric\|work, enable the delete folder option and delete to recycle bin in ace updater then your backups will be in the recycle bin?`
`14:13.20`	`Trancer`	`kinda defies the purpose etc.`
`14:13.22`	`poptix`	`i used to write killer mIRC scripts, before it had if/then/else =P`
`14:13.57`	`Trancer`	`is there any 'simple' addon to show (peak) memory usage?`
`14:14.01`	`kagaro`	`~poke CIA-17`
`14:14.10`	`purl`	`ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind CIA-17, pokes CIA-17 repeatedly, hilarity ensues.`
`14:14.14`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I used to have a massive ircII script. I can do it. I just don't want to :)`
`14:14.15`	`Adirelle`	`Trancer : notice I just forgot to enable load outdated at 2.0.1 (I dumped out all my addons and started over with ace at that time)`
`14:14.25`	`poptix`	`Trancer: 'warmup' will show addon load time and resource usage during initial loading`
`14:14.45`	`Trancer`	`poptix: hmm k, and during active play? load on demand etc.`
`14:15.15`	`Adirelle`	`poptix : during initial loading, right, but at end of it some memory can be GC'ed`
`14:15.20`	`poptix`	`uh.. fubar_performance or something will show overall memory usage. my understanding is that after loading you can't really do any sort of profiling`
`14:15.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`warmup isnt ment to be enabled all the time`
`14:15.43`	`poptix`	`Arrowmaster: nobody said it was`
`14:15.47`	`abbat_w`	`tekSupport can help you`
`14:15.48`	`poptix`	`in fact, it auto disables itself`
`14:15.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`i wouldnt recomment teksupport right now`
`14:16.05`	`abbat_w`	`why?`
`14:16.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`it taints everything`
`14:16.22`	`Adirelle`	`poptix: take a look at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace2_Memory_Concerns`
`14:16.35`	`poptix`	`Adirelle: read it already when i got annoyed at all the extra libs`
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`14:16.45`	`Adirelle`	`k`
`14:16.50`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24515 10TauntWarn/ (. TauntWarn.lua TauntWarn.toc):`
`14:16.50`	`CIA-17`	`TauntWarn:`
`14:16.50`	`CIA-17`	`- toc 20003, minor tweaks`
`14:16.57`	`abbat_w`	`ah, maybe`
`14:16.58`	`poptix`	`didn't stop me from being annoyed about them, extra disk space, extra time spent loading and backing up addons =P`
`14:17.11`	`abbat_w`	`but tekSupport help me tune my wow ;)`
`14:17.38`	`poptix`	`besides, if I find a problem with an Ace mod using the latest libs, i can always a) fix it myself b) report the fix to the author`
`14:17.41`	`nee-lap`	`I'll have to check teksupport, I am not sure how to use it yet.`
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`14:18.20`	`Adirelle`	`notice i have both embes and standalone`
`14:18.28`	`Adirelle`	`s/embes/embeds/`
`14:18.52`	`abbat_w`	`tekSupport create fubar tooltip where you can find some information`
`14:19.02`	`Adirelle`	`not sure why i did that though, maybe had been too lazy to take a clear decision`
`14:19.05`	`[Ammo]`	`I run everything standalone because I have a shitty harddrive`
`14:19.08`	`abbat_w`	`such as memory usage, time usage e.t.c by addons`
`14:19.14`	`[Ammo]`	`60 second loadtimes due to my HD :p`
`14:19.28`	`[Ammo]`	`with 21Mb initial addon mem etc`
`14:19.58`	`Adirelle`	`at end of loadtime, perfomancefu talks of about 40mb, i force a GC it goes down to 29`
`14:20.03`	`nee-lap`	`Ah, I'll install it in a moment.`
`14:20.05`	`abbat_w`	`Same for me. About 21-23 mb initial memory and 0.3-0.5kib`
`14:20.06`	`kenlyric\|work`	`the problem I see is knowing which standalone libs I need.`
`14:20.18`	`nee-lap`	`hm. wowace is being hammered again`
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`14:20.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats easy`
`14:20.23`	`abbat_w`	`Heh`
`14:20.24`	`[Ammo]`	`kenlyric: I used a grep and some uniq'ing for that :p`
`14:20.33`	`poptix`	`kenlyric\|work: just delete them all and reinstall them until everything works ;)`
`14:20.43`	`poptix`	`(the libs)`
`14:20.52`	`Adirelle`	`well, i'm supposed to work`
`14:21.05`	`kenlyric\|work`	`poptix: yes, but trying to tell which mods are libs in WAU isn't fun. There isn't a marker that says THIS IS A LIB (though, they do often contain the word library)`
`14:21.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`use bugsack and when you get a message about a library instance not found then go install that standalone`
`14:21.22`	`poptix`	`^^`
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`14:21.29`	`Adirelle\|work`	`(maybe should i disable window title flashing to reduce temptation)`
`14:21.29`	`poptix`	`exactly what i did`
`14:21.42`	`Amadeo`	`What do you guys think of the iPhone?`
`14:21.46`	`nee-lap`	`Wow. the Periodic Drums are back when in a BG queue`
`14:21.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`kenlyric\|work: get the standalone zip that gives you a bunch of empty folders`
`14:22.07`	`poptix`	`Amadeo: another overpriced shiny from Apple that will require AppleCare if you want more than 3 months of use out of it`
`14:22.08`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Amadeo: jesus christ that's an expensive ipod nano.`
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`14:22.36`	`poptix`	`guaranteed to: break, explode, die randomly, crash, scratch easily and be incompatible`
`14:22.39`	`Amadeo`	`It looks nice, but I don't like how they're telling everyone it runs OS X, as if it's the whole OS`
`14:22.44`	`kenlyric\|work`	`and steve jobs promised me a widescreen video ipod in his speech AND an ipod phone. He only delivered one.`
`14:23.09`	`kenlyric\|work`	`because 4gb for a video device? screw you steve.`
`14:23.26`	`Amadeo`	`if it can be used for full PDA functionality and allow you to run real apps and not widgets, it'll be decent`
`14:23.28`	`kenlyric\|work`	`give me my 80gb widescreen video ipod and then shut up.`
`14:23.55`	`poptix`	`kenlyric\|work: my treo700w has widescreen, streaming internet video (verizon EVDO), and a sandisk memory slot for 'unlimited' memory.`
`14:23.55`	`kenlyric\|work`	`those were all the things I thought when reading his talk.`
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`14:24.04`	`poptix`	`treo > video ipod`
`14:24.16`	`Amadeo`	`I think it's better to go solid state for a portable device like that`
`14:24.34`	`kenlyric\|work`	`ok, give me 80gb of solid state memory and I'm with you.`
`14:24.36`	`Amadeo`	`hard drive would just use too much battery and cause problems in the long run`
`14:25.26`	`DrZoot`	`can anyone confirm that the range for capping a flag is about 30+ yards now?`
`14:25.26`	`poptix`	`mmm, i can imagine ipods with tiny raid-0 arrays of flash memory`
`14:25.30`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I agree with you that 4/8gb flash is a good size for a phone/music player. But don't try to call it a video player.`
`14:25.30`	`Amadeo`	`it'll be nice one day I guess, but I've never seen the need for that much space on an audio player`
`14:25.35`	`kenlyric\|work`	`And don't try to tell me its a video ipod.`
`14:25.53`	`kenlyric\|work`	`My music collection at 128kbps stands at 63gb.`
`14:26.05`	`Amadeo`	`I wonder how much video you can actually put on it, since I imagine it would have smaller filesizes due to small screen format`
`14:26.23`	`Amadeo`	`Maybe, but do you listen to all 63GB every day, or do you stick with something you're in the mood for? :)`
`14:26.37`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Amadeo: the file sizes are what the apple store sells now, and they're not exactly miniscule :)`
`14:26.56`	`Amadeo`	`How big are they? I don't use iTunes`
`14:27.02`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Amadeo, it randomly changes. I have a shuffle now, and that's a lot of work pressing the "shuffle" button in itunes ;)`
`14:27.45`	`DrZoot`	`damn, I bought new headphones and now all my music sounds like crap`
`14:28.03`	`Amadeo`	`That happens a lot`
`14:28.15`	`Amadeo`	`Most people don't know how badly encoded their music is`
`14:28.32`	`xlvii`	`amadeo, i do..`
`14:28.35`	`xlvii`	`;D`
`14:28.40`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`14:29.10`	`xlvii`	`VBR 192 kbps lossy.`
`14:29.11`	`xlvii`	`;D`
`14:29.18`	`Amadeo`	`Kind of disappointing that the iPhone is Cingular only`
`14:29.24`	`kenlyric\|work`	`yeah, most people have shitty ears, so its not a problem.`
`14:29.25`	`evl`	`It's still software`
`14:29.31`	`evl`	`I suspect people will hack it like it's hoooot`
`14:29.59`	`poptix`	`it's not all software`
`14:30.14`	`Amadeo`	`Well, I know Sprint won't activate phones unless they have the Sprint logo on them`
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`14:30.33`	`Amadeo`	`I don't care much about Verizon, they're too expensive`
`14:30.40`	`poptix`	`cingular is CDMA/GSM on their own bands, if the radio doesn't support it, you're not going to use it on another provider (at least, not everywhere on that provider)`
`14:31.06`	`Amadeo`	`This could actually start to give Apple a bad name`
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`14:31.15`	`Amadeo`	`Because people will start blaming Apple for Cingular problems, etc`
`14:31.19`	`poptix`	`Apple doesn't already have a bad name?`
`14:31.24`	`syeren`	`How long does it normally take for DNS servers to update?`
`14:31.36`	`syeren`	`The .org I bought has taken 47 hours, the .com I bought took 3.`
`14:31.45`	`poptix`	`Amadeo: http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=powerbook%20pitting`
`14:31.49`	`syeren`	`Still waiting for my fucking domain.`
`14:31.53`	`kenlyric\|work`	`poptix: not to a whole lot of people.`
`14:32.03`	`Amadeo`	`poptix: How old are those?`
`14:32.09`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I love how they thumbed their noses at Apple Corp.`
`14:32.12`	`poptix`	`kenlyric\|work: perhaps, but those people are stupid`
`14:32.27`	`\|Kev\|`	`it's nice to be openminded, isn't it? :)`
`14:32.29`	`nee-lap`	`Is there some Ace addon to silence those infernal BG drums?`
`14:32.34`	`poptix`	`Apple has a lot of people convinced that their repeated problems with Apple hardware is either their own fault, or a very rare case`
`14:32.37`	`kenlyric\|work`	`poptix: I don't know that being insulting is really necessary. I like their music store, and I like my shuffle.`
`14:33.00`	`poptix`	`Amadeo: those are powerbook aluminums`
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`14:33.11`	`Amadeo`	`eh, I dunno, all hardware runs into problems`
`14:33.16`	`Amadeo`	`if they don't fix it, that's one thing`
`14:33.35`	`poptix`	`Amadeo: powerbook i bought last year did it, along with an exploding battery, a screen with 'white spots', a motherboard that died, etc`
`14:33.51`	`Amadeo`	`nice!`
`14:33.53`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`14:33.57`	`poptix`	`my powerbook titanium before that went through at least 4 sets of left hinges, crippled cd-rom drive, etc`
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`14:34.16`	`poptix`	`applecare and ebay ftw.`
`14:34.18`	`Amadeo`	`does it happen to the brand new ones?`
`14:34.22`	`poptix`	`sold that shit.`
`14:34.25`	`poptix`	`Amadeo: yes`
`14:34.57`	`poptix`	`it's the aluminum + insufficient coating + human body chemistry (only does it for some people)`
`14:35.14`	`Amadeo`	`good to know`
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`14:35.18`	`Rophy2`	`sylvanaar: SimpleCombatLog didn't work with Prat timestamps? it's working for me.`
`14:36.13`	`kenlyric\|work`	`greasy palms need not apply? ;)`
`14:36.28`	`Amadeo`	`I'm greasy as hell`
`14:36.30`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`14:36.33`	`poptix`	`kenlyric\|work: i'm OCD about washing my hands many times a day, has nothing to do with personal hygiene`
`14:37.03`	`Amadeo`	`I have nice and oily skin, sucks now, maybe when I'm an old man it'll be good...I won't have dry skin!`
`14:37.04`	`poptix`	`everyones body has its own special chemistry, some people are more acidic than others`
`14:37.06`	`\|Kev\|`	`greasy skin and hygiene are not mutually exclusive`
`14:37.08`	`kenlyric\|work`	`well, amadeo got my sarcasm. That's 1 out of 2 I guess.`
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`14:37.28`	`Amadeo`	`I'm starting to think that you don't actually hate everything!`
`14:37.44`	`poptix`	`random topic change:`
`14:37.50`	`Mikma`	`boobs`
`14:37.54`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I'll probably never have a mac because Mac OS upgrades cost money. Even their minor revisions cost money.`
`14:37.59`	`poptix`	`seen the QQ'ing on wow-general about the new realms battlegroup?`
`14:38.14`	`poptix`	`'zomg, i hate you blizz, you put us in a release server battlegroup!'`
`14:38.29`	`Amadeo`	`Yeah, I think Blizzard makes bad decisions about it, but big deal`
`14:38.35`	`poptix`	`well, here i sit, in queue for 3 BGs`
`14:38.51`	`kenlyric\|work`	`poptix: did they expect to be in a battlegroup by themselves?`
`14:38.51`	`poptix`	`queue times are entirely too long, because there's hardly any servers in our battlegroup (bloodhoof)`
`14:39.07`	`poptix`	`kenlyric\|work: i think they expected to be in a 'new realm' battlegroup, not that it matters with TBC so close`
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`14:39.19`	`poptix`	`full tier 3 with the best loot out of naxx doesn't mean shit at 70`
`14:39.30`	`kenlyric\|work`	`wow players expect a lot.`
`14:39.35`	`Amadeo`	`poptix: it does though`
`14:39.39`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`actually it does`
`14:39.43`	`poptix`	`blizzard drops new realms into whatever rack has space`
`14:39.43`	`Amadeo`	`If you have tier 3, you'll probably be wearing it at 70`
`14:39.54`	`poptix`	`Amadeo: I have tier 3, I'm not wearing most of it at 70`
`14:39.57`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`full tier 3 naxx loot is about on par with blues at 70`
`14:40.11`	`poptix`	`boots, helm, bracers (though sidegrades are available, it's PURPLE)`
`14:40.24`	`Amadeo`	`poptix: That's the first I've heard of that`
`14:40.33`	`kenlyric\|work`	`also set bonuses.`
`14:40.54`	`kenlyric\|work`	`someone told me that t3 was needed to make t5. Is that true?`
`14:40.55`	`poptix`	`kenlyric\|work: my 1 minute cooldown on evocation and chance for my next spell to cause 0 threat make a huge difference in BGs`
`14:41.05`	`poptix`	`=P`
`14:41.06`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Ken, no`
`14:41.13`	`kenlyric\|work`	`damn.`
`14:41.20`	`poptix`	`you buy T5 at a vendor, with tokens`
`14:41.25`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I was hoping for a decent reason for guilds to do naxx while levelling :)`
`14:41.30`	`poptix`	`or is that t3/t4`
`14:41.33`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`No`
`14:41.37`	`Amadeo`	`yeah, but you make it sound like it's easy to get`
`14:41.45`	`nee-lap`	`wow`
`14:41.45`	`Amadeo`	`it's not like you just get free token handouts`
`14:41.45`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`there's no reason to ever go back to 60s raid content`
`14:41.54`	`nee-lap`	`I really like the new default BG scoreboard`
`14:41.57`	`poptix`	`Amadeo: nobody said that`
`14:42.19`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Neuro_Medivh: I know. I just want to go to naxx. That's what I get for not being a guild hopper.`
`14:42.23`	`Amadeo`	`it's just on a vendor, so instead of rolling/DKP for items, you do it for tokens :P`
`14:42.28`	`Trancer`	`I wonder what level the bosses in Naxx will be for us when we ding 70`
`14:42.31`	`poptix`	`you 'buy' t3 from vendors with tokens too, they just want mooncloth/arcane crystals/etc along with it =)`
`14:42.32`	`Trancer`	`Will they be 63?`
`14:42.58`	`Trancer`	`If so, nice, saves a lot of glancing/misses ;)`
`14:43.03`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Trancer: to start with they should. Though blizz could always change it later.`
`14:43.29`	`nee-lap`	`Hm. there's not enough room on the BG scoreboard to show the servernames though`
`14:43.40`	`Trancer`	`yeah nee-lap, that REALLY SUCKS`
`14:43.47`	`poptix`	`they've already stated that 'boss' level mobs are +3 levels against the player for glancing blows/resist/defense purposes`
`14:43.48`	`Trancer`	`123 way to see a premade gone, bah`
`14:44.50`	`kenlyric\|work`	`poptix: odd. I thought I remember level 58 and 59 folks getting a lOT more resists in MC because the bosses were 63.`
`14:44.56`	`poptix`	`patchwerk shouldn't hit harder, but he'll land more crushing blows if you haven't upped your defense. he'll also always have a base 16% chance to resist`
`14:45.04`	`Royal`	`Is it AGUF that's hiding my castingbar? (default, no other mod that does smth with castingbar)`
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`14:45.07`	`poptix`	`kenlyric\|work: there's a minimum level as well.`
`14:45.23`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`hey guys`
`14:45.29`	`Hjalte`	`Royal: Try loading only ag_uf :)`
`14:45.50`	`poptix`	`kenlyric\|work: they basicly tag it as lvl 63, then turn on a 'boss mob' flag`
`14:45.51`	`kenlyric\|work`	`poptix: oh wow, so it won't necessarily be easysauce to run through 60 instances. Their XP won't go up, but it's not like you'll crit more.`
`14:45.59`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`ag_unit frames doesnt show Combo Points on target frame, and i cant find any option to activate this option, someone can help ?`
`14:46.11`	`poptix`	`kenlyric\|work: right`
`14:46.27`	`poptix`	`you'll clear trash a lot faster though, and kill them faster since their HP doesn't change`
`14:46.37`	`poptix`	`and loatheb will be more of a joke than he ever was.`
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`14:47.04`	`poptix`	`though nobody has determined if you'll need more +resist on sapphiron yt`
`14:47.06`	`poptix`	`yet*`
`14:47.19`	`Amadeo`	`what's the hardest instance in TBC so far?`
`14:47.41`	`poptix`	`Amadeo: any instance not yet tuned for heroic mode =)`
`14:47.46`	`SoLoR`	`Amadeo hiyal`
`14:47.49`	`SoLoR`	`hyal`
`14:47.49`	`Amadeo`	`hehe`
`14:47.49`	`SoLoR`	`;>`
`14:47.53`	`SoLoR`	`or whatever ;)`
`14:47.56`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Hyjal`
`14:48.06`	`Amadeo`	`Hyjal isn't an instance, is it?`
`14:48.13`	`SoLoR`	`its RAID instance :)`
`14:48.19`	`SoLoR`	`its still instance :P`
`14:48.24`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it's the raid instance.`
`14:48.28`	`kenlyric\|work`	`err, THE`
`14:48.33`	`kenlyric\|work`	`i mean, show him the chart.`
`14:48.45`	`Amadeo`	`Not the chart! Not the chart!`
`14:48.55`	`poptix`	`that chart is horrible`
`14:49.01`	`poptix`	`if it's the one i think it is`
`14:49.02`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Better to immunize him now.`
`14:49.03`	`Amadeo`	`what chart?`
`14:49.05`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`ag_unit frames doesnt show Combo Points on target frame, and i cant find any option to activate this option, someone can help ?`
`14:49.07`	`kenlyric\|work`	`horrible but true.`
`14:49.20`	`Amadeo`	`but I rode around Hyjal, it's just a big zone!`
`14:49.33`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Amadeo: yeah, just like Zul'gurub was.`
`14:49.39`	`Amadeo`	`ZG is that big?`
`14:49.43`	`kenlyric\|work`	`no.`
`14:49.46`	`kenlyric\|work`	`ZG was smaller.`
`14:49.59`	`Amadeo`	`but there's an instance within Hyjal`
`14:49.59`	`kenlyric\|work`	`but it was still a zone you could break into.`
`14:50.43`	`poptix`	`Amadeo: you can get 'behind' ZG just like you can get 'behind' hyjal`
`14:50.45`	Funkeh`	`lol this is unbearably slow`
`14:50.51`	`kenlyric\|work`	`there is? I only remember the portal at the entrance.`
`14:50.58`	`poptix`	`you're just looking at the non-instanced landscape`
`14:51.00`	`nee-lap`	`Okay, Closetgnome de-equips my hunters' arrows. very annoying`
`14:51.10`	`Amadeo`	`yeah, there's another instance in Hyjal...looks like a dragon head opening or something`
`14:51.32`	`Amadeo`	`and leads into an underground area, looks like Onyxia's lair`
`14:51.37`	`SoLoR`	`currently blizzard have no intention to open hyjal as zone in TBC`
`14:51.46`	`SoLoR`	`at least that what they said few months back`
`14:52.03`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`noone can help me ? :(`
`14:52.10`	`kenlyric\|work`	`well, it's not like they don't redesign zones... maybe they did that.`
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`14:52.37`	`SoLoR`	`Nemesis\Vagas sorry no stab stab atl`
`14:52.39`	`SoLoR`	`*alt`
`14:52.40`	`Amadeo`	`kenlyric\|work: See? http://www.s8.org/wow/screenshots/Gorebash%20(Feathermoon)/Explorations/Hyjal/WoWScrnShot_042006_194309.jpg`
`14:52.45`	`Amadeo`	`that's it`
`14:52.48`	`Barbanus`	`zones are normally done long before the actual coding work is done on them though`
`14:53.21`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`;(`
`14:53.58`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`btw, here is The Chart: http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diagramvv4.jpg`
`14:54.10`	`Amadeo`	`um...wow`
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`14:54.12`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`14:55.05`	`Amadeo`	`Which is the instance that's underwater in Zangarmarsh?`
`14:55.36`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`coilfang resevoir`
`14:56.02`	`Pkekyo`	`downloading the new patch now... "Your computer appears to be behind a firewall." anyone know what I can do?`
`14:56.02`	`Amadeo`	`yeah`
`14:56.02`	`Amadeo`	`I went in there...the mobs hit me for 1800's`
`14:56.02`	`Ordog`	`uhm wowace files hammered?`
`14:56.02`	`odt`	`Pkekyo: that was the best thing that could happen for me`
`14:56.02`	`poptix`	`Pkekyo: http://poptix.net/WoW/WoW-2.0.3-enUS.zip`
`14:56.02`	`odt`	`it started a direct http download`
`14:56.03`	`kenlyric\|work`	`of course, you'll do a lot of these things naturally as part of progression. Of course, the same thing could be said about the onyxia attunement. But after your third or fourth time doing it, you'll probably start to hate it.`
`14:56.03`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Ordog, pretty much`
`14:56.04`	`odt`	`and that was pretty fast back in the morning`
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`14:57.36`	`[dRaCo]`	`Tornhoof: I found a bug :(`
`14:58.13`	`Ordog`	`updater is consuming up to 4.5kbit/s occasionally`
`14:58.21`	`Ordog`	`i better go afk for an hour or so ...`
`14:58.44`	`Tornhoof`	`tell me`
`14:59.05`	`DrZoot`	`thats odd, I just made a commit but no msg in the channel`
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`15:00.04`	`Ordog`	`DrZoot takes time`
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`15:00.54`	`odt`	`any mirrors for http://www.wowace.com/files/ yet?`
`15:00.56`	`DrZoot`	`Ordog, odd usually its almost instant, although usually the wowace servers arent getting hammered by people who are scared of outdated toc versions`
`15:01.01`	`[dRaCo]`	`I switched to DreamLayout`
`15:01.13`	`Tornhoof`	`and it switched back once in awhile`
`15:01.16`	`Tornhoof`	`yes i know that`
`15:01.22`	`Tornhoof`	`should be fixed in some other build ;)`
`15:01.24`	`[dRaCo]`	`but everytime I cast a totem, the border around the buttons reappears`
`15:01.29`	`Tornhoof`	`i know`
`15:01.36`	`Ordog`	`yep DrZoot i took the hammering into account with my statement :)`
`15:01.37`	`Tornhoof`	`fixed already`
`15:01.39`	`ravagernl`	`I noticed too draco`
`15:01.49`	`[dRaCo]`	`cool`
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`15:01.59`	`Tornhoof`	`i removed the borders for good`
`15:02.04`	`Tornhoof`	`dunno why it happens though`
`15:02.46`	`ravagernl`	`I really cant update using wowaceupdater :(`
`15:03.05`	`Ordog`	`takes time ravagernl go afk and come back in an hour`
`15:03.14`	`Ordog`	`or just stop using it`
`15:03.18`	`Ordog`	`and play instead ^^`
`15:03.22`	`JoshBorke`	`bye all`
`15:03.31`	`Ordog`	`load out of date addons worked without a flaw for me until now`
`15:03.32`	`ravagernl`	`hmm yea, well, cant play with a bugged UI`
`15:03.51`	`ravagernl`	`grid gets mad at me`
`15:04.13`	`Gagorian`	`kagaro: Thanks`
`15:04.22`	`Pkekyo`	`poptix: thanks for the link, but I need enGB`
`15:05.11`	`ravagernl`	`i was wondering if there are ay other mirrors for wowace`
`15:05.31`	`Tornhoof`	`none which are recently updated`
`15:05.33`	Funkeh`	`anyone got http://ace.pastey.net/4842 error yet?`
`15:07.55`	`ravagernl`	`lol, 02 kb/s downloading simpleminimap`
`15:08.07`	`nee-lap`	not me Funkeh`
`15:08.18`	`abbat_w`	`heh`
`15:08.34`	`abbat_w`	`It's time we moved away from "Get everyone using Ace" to "Give Ace to everyone"`
`15:08.35`	Funkeh`	`i have no idea what mod it is, maybe agUF`
`15:08.38`	`odt`	`is the svn just as slow?`
`15:08.55`	Funkeh`	`wowace is slow as crap odt, patch day`
`15:09.00`	`abbat_w`	`End now everyone got updates from wowace. Wowace overloaded ;(`
`15:09.12`	`odt`	Funkeh`: all subdomains run on 1 host?
`15:09.34`	Funkeh`	`no idea but the svn is on the same server`
`15:09.39`	`odt`	`mkay`
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`15:10.31`	`Amadeo`	`talk about trying to give someone a heart attack`
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`15:10.43`	`Amadeo`	`I'm checking my mega millions lottery ticket, and the first two numbers are matches`
`15:10.44`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`15:10.50`	`Amadeo`	`then, it bombs! nooooo`
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`15:12.08`	`Amadeo`	`I was going to buy kenlyric an iPhone with a 1TB HD in it`
`15:12.08`	`kenlyric\|work`	`sweet.`
`15:12.24`	`kenlyric\|work`	`then I could keep all my porn on it too.`
`15:12.45`	`Amadeo`	`do they have HDTV porn? that would be sweet`
`15:12.51`	`odt`	`yes`
`15:13.07`	`odt`	`but the hd porn releases are quite rare i guess :)`
`15:13.23`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`15:13.28`	`Amadeo`	`high class porn!`
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`15:13.44`	`Barbanus`	`never said they were high class`
`15:13.48`	`Barbanus`	`just high quality`
`15:13.56`	`Daemona`	`there is nothing worse than bad porn`
`15:14.12`	`kenlyric\|work`	`porn were the early adopters of hd :)`
`15:14.24`	`kenlyric\|work`	`they often drive new tech :)`
`15:14.27`	`Amadeo`	`they are industry leaders!`
`15:14.35`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I mean. The internet.`
`15:14.44`	`Daemona`	`first movie on dvd? RIGHT porn`
`15:14.51`	`kenlyric\|work`	`online commerce, streaming video, etc.`
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`15:15.20`	`Amadeo`	`I'm still waiting for fufme`
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`15:16.36`	`Amadeo`	`I think I'll take my CDRW drive apart sometime later`
`15:16.40`	`Amadeo`	`since it's broken anyway`
`15:17.10`	`Amadeo`	`I'll fix it with my skillz`
`15:17.12`	`Amadeo`	`hm, brb`
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`15:18.06`	`kenlyric\|work`	`oh, and some thing worse than bad porn is good porn encoded badly.`
`15:18.07`	`groll`	`anyone got a backup of the latest ace addons on another server? :D`
`15:19.27`	Funkeh`	`groll: run wowaceupdater and wait your turn :)`
`15:19.37`	`Maranatha`	`wow..wth happened to curse`
`15:19.46`	Funkeh`	`curse died about 5 hours ago`
`15:19.58`	`Grine`	`curse was dea yesterday too :P`
`15:20.01`	`Grine`	`for a while`
`15:20.11`	`Grine`	`now it really died though!`
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`15:20.21`	`Maranatha`	`yes it is hosed`
`15:20.26`	`Fransdaballa`	`hello`
`15:20.36`	`Tornhoof`	`mysql db is dead`
`15:20.48`	`Fransdaballa`	`what server are you guys from?`
`15:20.57`	`kenlyric\|work`	`all of them`
`15:20.57`	`Maranatha`	`ace updater as well`
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`15:21.14`	`syeren`	`Addon sites neeed to start preparing for Patch weeks better :p`
`15:21.23`	`syeren`	`Especially sites with the resources of Curse.`
`15:21.28`	`Trancer`	`people need to donate more to the sites ;)`
`15:21.37`	`Maranatha`	`I wouldnt want to have to manage them`
`15:21.47`	`Trancer`	`I wonder where curse gets it's resources from`
`15:21.54`	`Maranatha`	`blizz should pay to host their stuff : )`
`15:21.59`	`syeren`	`They're sponsored or some shit Trancer ;p`
`15:22.03`	`Trancer`	`Maranatha: conflict of interests`
`15:22.07`	`groll`	Funkeh` i dont want to wait 2 hours :p
`15:22.20`	`Maranatha`	`definately..`
`15:22.21`	`Trancer`	`syeren: myeah, but load balancers to setup a farm for this is just $$$ urgh`
`15:22.21`	`Grine`	`oh crap >.< I hate the filecheck in the updater :P`
`15:22.35`	`\|Kev\|`	`which updater, and why?`
`15:23.00`	`Grine`	`blizz updater, cause even if I have preloaded almost everything it checks for several minutes`
`15:23.05`	`\|Kev\|`	`ah ok`
`15:23.13`	`\|Kev\|`	`thought you meant one of the ace updaters ;)`
`15:23.19`	`Grine`	`heh no`
`15:23.37`	Funkeh`	`groll: your options, lets wowaceupdater run whilst you play then resatrt when its finished, or liv ewithout`
`15:23.54`	Funkeh`	`christ i hate having cold fingers`
`15:24.16`	`Grine`	`damn, #trivia on this server was dead`
`15:24.20`	`\|Kev\|`	`cold fingers are odd`
`15:24.26`	`Trancer`	Funkeh`: move around a bit or you'll get strain injuries ;)
`15:24.32`	`Maranatha`	`Funk: sit on your hands and type with your nose`
`15:24.40`	Funkeh`	`hahaahah`
`15:24.49`	`Nickenyfiken`	`lol`
`15:24.52`	`Trancer`	`(seriously btw)`
`15:25.10`	`\|Kev\|`	`I was climbing once when it was -3C with windchill, and I sliced my fingers open forcing them into a gap in the rock`
`15:25.25`	`\|Kev\|`	`I didn't realise until I was off the route and saw them bleeding`
`15:25.33`	Funkeh`	`ouch`
`15:25.51`	`syeren`	`Guys, does http://fabrikate.org`
`15:25.54`	`syeren`	`Work for any of you yet?`
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`15:25.59`	`syeren`	`Been waiting 2 days for the DNS servers.`
`15:26.09`	`syeren`	`Yet the .com domain I bought worked after a few hours.`
`15:26.13`	`syeren`	`But that isn't even mine -_-`
`15:26.22`	Funkeh`	`www.fabrikate.org could not be found. Please check the name and try again.`
`15:26.29`	`Grine`	`same here`
`15:26.31`	`syeren`	`Fucking stupid shit -_-`
`15:26.33`	`yacoob`	`\|Kev\|, things like that are always "funny" - when you're through that is.`
`15:26.41`	`FryGuy`	`http://www.xkcd.com/`
`15:26.43`	`\|Kev\|`	`yes, more funny than during the event`
`15:26.52`	`Grine`	`lol hastes site is down too :)`
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`15:27.02`	`\|Kev\|`	`because it hurt like hell when the feeling started returning`
`15:27.24`	`haste`	`Grine: it's not`
`15:27.32`	`syeren`	`http://twkclan.com works.`
`15:27.36`	`Grine`	`haste, I didn't get in on first try, semidown maybe?`
`15:27.38`	`syeren`	`Which fucking annoys me -_-`
`15:27.43`	`Grine`	`haste, up now though`
`15:27.47`	`Grine`	`or well, working`
`15:27.50`	`haste`	`Grine: no, it's an configuration error`
`15:27.51`	`Gagorian`	`anyone know if there's any new mana regen API except GetManaRegen( "unit" )?`
`15:28.01`	`Grine`	`haste, oh well nvm`
`15:28.02`	`\|Kev\|`	`did the new patch break all the addons then?`
`15:28.03`	`haste`	`Grine: working on a fix for it, but PHP is le shit to work with`
`15:28.15`	`\|Kev\|`	`or is it just toc updates?`
`15:28.22`	`packetlss`	`anyone else noticing issues with the raid layout window (default ui)? it seems to kick and promote the wrong people`
`15:28.39`	`Aileen_`	`we saw that last night, yes`
`15:30.05`	`Saroz`	`ag_uf castbars FTW`
`15:30.07`	`syeren`	`Hate DNS propagation :(`
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`15:30.44`	`syeren`	`Blizzard put a filter on whisperes.`
`15:30.49`	`poptix`	`ipconfig /flushdns`
`15:30.55`	`syeren`	`I was talking about the site I buy gold from and it wouldn't allow me to send it :o`
`15:30.58`	`Grine`	`kewl I can have the battlemap up in all zones now? or only the ones with PvP objectives?`
`15:31.28`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Grine... you can bring it up in any zone. There's a command.`
`15:31.41`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it also gets stuck on, especially when leaving silithus (for me at least)`
`15:31.43`	`Grine`	`hmm maybe I just never tried it`
`15:31.59`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`(16:30:19) (Saroz) ag_uf castbars FTW <--- would like it more if it would show combo points :P`
`15:32.08`	`Saroz`	`mad props for adding them`
`15:32.10`	`poptix`	`shift+M is the default, but it only toggles in PvP zones`
`15:32.49`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I think there's a / command which will actually show the map in any zone, but I've never used it, so not sure.`
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`15:34.41`	`_neuron_`	`eek, the new ag_uf doesn't show combo points? :P`
`15:35.17`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`yea it dont neuron ;(`
`15:35.25`	`Maranatha`	`the last version had an option to show them I thought`
`15:35.29`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`yes`
`15:35.37`	`_neuron_`	`guessing the castbar overlaps or something`
`15:35.38`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`but this dont it think, couldnt found one`
`15:35.49`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`*i think`
`15:36.01`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`hm maybe neuron`
`15:36.07`	`Aileen_`	`the cast bar would have been cool if it was relocatable :) it covered up my pet and target of target bars though, so I had to turn it off`
`15:36.10`	`Maranatha`	`I use nugiecombobar for points anyway..`
`15:36.18`	`Nemesis\Vagas`	`i deactivate castbar on target window and look if copmbo points show up then`
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`15:36.57`	`xlvii`	`marantha, what's that?`
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`15:37.23`	`Maranatha`	`places a small bar for combo points that you can resize or move anywhere`
`15:37.24`	`Grine`	`AKX, can I blame chatr for ChatFrame.lua throwing an error at me?`
`15:37.38`	`Maranatha`	`or large bar if you wish`
`15:38.04`	`xlvii`	`mm..`
`15:38.05`	`xlvii`	`i need that.`
`15:38.12`	`Maranatha`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6308`
`15:38.15`	`AKX`	`Grine, yeah, you can`
`15:38.17`	`Neebler`	`http://ic3.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/009/0/7/iPhone_Mashup_by_inviso.jpg`
`15:38.36`	`Grine`	`AKX, good :)`
`15:38.37`	`Maranatha`	`works for druid cat form as well`
`15:39.35`	`nee-lap`	`I wish a_UF could show mana % when shapeshifted`
`15:39.57`	`Hobinheim`	`Neebler, no tactile feedback.`
`15:39.59`	`Maranatha`	`man only up to ag_unitframes in wowaceupdater after about 30 minutes`
`15:40.19`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Magic 8 ball say: patch not the best day to update.`
`15:40.53`	`Daemona`	`who cares, fire up WAU and read a good book :D`
`15:41.12`	`kenlyric\|work`	`true`
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`15:41.24`	`Daemona`	`most stuff is toc-updates anyway...`
`15:41.44`	`Daemona`	`i currently play with out-of-date on and running updater in background.`
`15:42.04`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yeah reading! im reading WoW: Rise of the Horde`
`15:42.07`	`Nickenyfiken`	`anyone read it?`
`15:42.26`	`sbu`	`_neuron_: no combopoints - castbar is there :/`
`15:44.36`	`Fisker-`	`castbar looks like crap imo :P`
`15:44.49`	`Fisker-`	`Menemycastbar is way better`
`15:45.29`	`Gagorian`	`Is there any way to figure out unlisted new API calls?`
`15:45.43`	`Prophy`	`is there a way to show rogue combopoints on the PLAYER Frame? instead of target frame..`
`15:45.50`	`[Ammo]`	`Fikser: it's a first implementation, he'll probably make it better :)`
`15:45.55`	`krka`	`you can scan the binaries for strings`
`15:46.04`	`Peri`	`yeah, not a huge fan of guessing at combo points :)`
`15:46.07`	`krka`	`or scan blizzards xml for what api calls they use`
`15:46.11`	`Peri`	`but that's where sct comes in handy til it's fixed`
`15:46.21`	`krka`	`er, xml+lua of course`
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`15:47.15`	`Fisker-`	`of course [Ammo] :P`
`15:47.50`	`Gagorian`	`krka is it inside the mpq files?`
`15:49.05`	`SoLoR`	`wowinterface down, curse down but wowace UP omg!`
`15:49.08`	`SoLoR`	`just slooooow`
`15:49.18`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i like the new agUF castbars i think... i would just like to change the height`
`15:49.19`	`Matrix110`	`somehow the interface data always gets extracted with my client to WoW\Blizzard Interface Data\`
`15:49.30`	`krka`	`no idea`
`15:49.41`	`krka`	`i'd guess it was compiled into wow.exe`
`15:49.41`	`Matrix110`	`orwell it seems a bit outdated`
`15:49.46`	`krka`	`or some dll maybe`
`15:50.20`	`Matrix110`	`SoLoR curse is working aswell`
`15:50.28`	`Matrix110`	`just a bit of luck to get on!`
`15:51.03`	`sylvanaar`	`Rophy2: yeah, now it is - i just reverted to the old model`
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`15:51.17`	`Amadeo`	`perhaps my skills aren't the best!`
`15:51.41`	`Peri`	`oh i'm a huge fan of the new agUF castbars`
`15:51.42`	`Matrix110`	`wondering anyway why this patch creates such a rush its not like many addons broke Oo`
`15:51.48`	`Peri`	`just need somewhere to put my combo points :)`
`15:52.04`	`Peri`	`because people are lemmings and update everything instead of just what's broken`
`15:52.36`	`Matrix110`	`maybe they forgot about the Load out of Date^^`
`15:52.43`	`Klazar\|work`	`anyone using the python version of the updater?`
`15:52.45`	`Deviad`	`Is there any wow ace mirror? :\`
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`15:53.03`	`Matrix110`	`Deviad there are mirrors of the svn atleast`
`15:53.04`	`Prophy`	`is there a way to show rogue combopoints on the PLAYER Frame? instead of target frame..`
`15:53.05`	`Deviad`	`I'm still having problems with wowaceupdater 1.6 after the patch of today`
`15:53.27`	`Matrix110`	`but the forums/wiki is still working aswell just that 4of5 times it timeouts:P`
`15:53.34`	`Matrix110`	`What problems Deviad?`
`15:53.45`	`Klazar\|work`	`Deviad: yea me too with the Javaupdater`
`15:53.54`	`Deviad`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:53.54`	`Deviad`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:53.54`	`Deviad`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:54.15`	`Matrix110`	`that might be because the Server is sometimes responding and sometimes not:P`
`15:54.28`	`Matrix110`	`there is a HEAVY load on the server`
`15:55.22`	`Deviad`	`I thought so that's why I asked about a mirror`
`15:55.26`	`Tornhoof`	`there is no recent file mirror`
`15:55.37`	`Matrix110`	`well for the updater there is 1 mirror but i cant remember what the adress was but you can try updating via svn that should work but iam not sure how the mirrors are there and if they are synced`
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`15:55.57`	`Deviad`	`:\ OK`
`15:56.12`	`Deviad`	`I wanted to update to be sure to get things working fine with 2.0.3`
`15:56.17`	`Matrix110`	`But dont use Tortoise SVN!`
`15:56.18`	`Klazar\|work`	`there was a 13floor mirror listed in the javaupdater but its not current`
`15:56.21`	`Matrix110`	`It sucks-.-`
`15:56.27`	`Deviad`	`Matrix110, I use command line svn`
`15:56.32`	`Matrix110`	`thats fine`
`15:57.24`	`Deviad`	`Isn't SVN just for developers?`
`15:57.26`	`Antiarc`	`Ouch. The site is sucking wind.`
`15:57.30`	`Matrix110`	`no Deviad`
`15:57.34`	`Antiarc`	`I can't even get a page to load with Links.`
`15:57.38`	`Antiarc`	`ie, just text and CSS.`
`15:57.38`	`sylvanaar`	`should just host the stuff on P2P`
`15:57.51`	`Deviad`	`Matrix110, I know they reserved SVN for developers for saving bandwidth`
`15:57.55`	`Matrix110`	`there is a developer mirror Deviad but you use the public one with read only access that is sycned`
`15:58.09`	`Matrix110`	`it wasnt Bandwith`
`15:58.14`	`Matrix110`	`it was Server Load`
`15:58.26`	`Antiarc`	`sylvanaar, the problem with p2p is that you will have a billion versions running around, I'd think.`
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`15:58.35`	`Deviad`	`Matrix110, do you know the link to it?`
`15:58.40`	`Antiarc`	`And if someone with the latest version isn't seeding, then you have people propagating older versions`
`15:58.55`	`Matrix110`	`its svn.wowace.com or svn1.wowace.com svn2.wowace.com if i remember correctly`
`15:59.05`	`Matrix110`	`just try which one works:P`
`15:59.07`	`Antiarc`	`Though a more distributed addon system would be nice.`
`15:59.15`	`sylvanaar`	`Antiarc: just like now lol`
`15:59.27`	`Antiarc`	`Touche.`
`16:00.13`	`Hobinheim`	`like a torrent?`
`16:00.21`	`sylvanaar`	`wow-mod-torrent`
`16:00.48`	`sylvanaar`	`exclusively for trojans and keyloggers`
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`16:01.19`	`Kaelten`	`sorry guys turned off php, we had ~1800 connections`
`16:01.31`	`Peri`	`zomg, how could you!!!! (j/k)`
`16:01.32`	`Matrix110`	`i think the current system is pretty good, but you would need more servers but well question of money as always`
`16:02.07`	`Matrix110`	`and more servers only help @patchtime anyway`
`16:02.19`	`Kaelten`	`for the most part ya`
`16:02.21`	`Matrix110`	`for the rest of the time its fine already`
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`16:02.24`	`trh`	`Kaelten: btw: did u answered the svn account resend? if yes there wasn't a email yet and i can't imagine why :/`
`16:02.33`	`Kaelten`	`trh: nope not yet`
`16:02.42`	`Matrix110`	`Kaeltan is trying to keep his servers alive trh:P`
`16:02.43`	`Antiarc`	`What would be utterly boss is if a torrent client were integrated into WowAceUpdater so that while it was running, you could seed mods.`
`16:02.46`	`inph`	`Kaelten how about (un)official mirroring on patch days?`
`16:03.01`	`trh`	`Kaelten: good =) i was figuring that gmail hates me ;)`
`16:03.03`	`Klazar\|work`	`Kaelten: whats your paypal link i'll send $20 for now`
`16:03.12`	`Gagorian`	`aha`
`16:03.14`	`Gagorian`	`Found it`
`16:03.15`	`Gagorian`	`GetUnitHealthRegenRateFromSpirit("player")`
`16:03.34`	`Kaelten`	`Klazar\|work: http://www.wowace.com/`
`16:03.36`	`Antiarc`	`That's a heck of a function name.`
`16:03.38`	`Matrix110`	`Klazar\|work http://www.wowace.com/`
`16:03.38`	`Hobinheim`	`that's a real function? long much/`
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`16:03.41`	`Gagorian`	`:D`
`16:03.43`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r24517 10Postal/Postal_Select/Postal_Select.lua: Postal: -perform check in postal_select to make sure there is something checked before trying to process the checked table`
`16:03.46`	`Matrix110`	`my ping sucks:-(`
`16:03.46`	`Kaelten`	`Klazar\|work: I have the low page up which has a link`
`16:04.00`	`Klazar\|work`	`roger that`
`16:04.07`	`_icetrain`	`Kaelten: throwing away the reverse proxy on the svn mirrors should lighten the load for you perhaps?`
`16:04.09`	`trh`	`Matrix110: he just has to pet them... then they are happy :)`
`16:04.17`	`Gagorian`	`also local base, casting = GetManaRegen();`
`16:04.17`	`Kaelten`	`inph: I've thought about it.`
`16:04.27`	`Gagorian`	`mana regen not casting and casting`
`16:04.42`	`inph`	`could keep the load off the server the developers are using`
`16:04.47`	`Kaelten`	`_icetrain: not sure, it would effectively turn off checkouts and devs need that up too.`
`16:04.47`	`Matrix110`	`hmm how much money does PayPal eat again?`
`16:04.48`	`inph`	`and spread the bandwidth costs out`
`16:04.55`	`Kaelten`	`Matrix110: a few precent`
`16:05.04`	`Antiarc`	`Kaelten: Which part of the site consumes the most bandwidth? Wiki, forums, etc.`
`16:05.07`	`Antiarc`	`Err`
`16:05.09`	`Antiarc`	`Most CPU time`
`16:05.13`	`Antiarc`	`Sorry. Coffee hasn't hit yet.`
`16:05.20`	`Kaelten`	`Antiar1: pure bandiwth? the files.`
`16:05.21`	`trh`	`Kaelten: could you analyze which part of the server is the bottleneck?`
`16:05.26`	`_icetrain`	`Kaelten: why would it turn off checkouts? i meant just round robin dns the mirros instead so all traffic is not passed through the main server`
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`16:05.52`	`Antiarc`	`Hm. Is /files eating most of the connections?`
`16:06.02`	`Kaelten`	`Antiarc: yep`
`16:06.20`	`Kaelten`	`when php is up it eats up the most memory`
`16:06.27`	`Antiarc`	`php, not the DB?`
`16:06.30`	`trh`	`what about a php script that generates static html pages every few minutes`
`16:06.37`	`trh`	`instead of running always?`
`16:06.40`	`Kaelten`	`we're moving to a new server by middle next month hopefully.`
`16:06.43`	`Kaelten`	`Antiarc: php.`
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`16:06.53`	`inph`	`still using 1 httpd to serve everything?`
`16:06.56`	`Antiarc`	`Which apps are eating the most? Can you tell? wiki, forums, etc.`
`16:06.59`	`Antiarc`	`Trac is Python, IIRC.`
`16:07.06`	`\|Kev\|`	`if php is eating up the server, running a cacheing squid might be a solution?`
`16:07.10`	`nadas`	`hehe someone made a case-bug in aguf :p`
`16:07.11`	`inph`	`if so, i'd look at static http off something else`
`16:07.14`	`Trancer`	`and put the website on a ramdrive`
`16:07.18`	`Saroz`	`Antiarc, it is`
`16:07.22`	`Trancer`	`PHP is very inefficient in file access`
`16:07.29`	`inph`	`ie thttpd for /files/`
`16:07.39`	`Trancer`	`due to the nature of it is code being spread out all over etc.`
`16:07.40`	`Kaelten`	`inph: /files is a static page.`
`16:07.42`	`\|Kev\|`	`I've heard reports of trac bringing servers to their knees, and other people saying it's fine`
`16:07.53`	`inph`	`Kaelten still being served through apache though?`
`16:08.02`	`Kaelten`	`inph: actually lightty`
`16:08.16`	`trh`	`Kaelten: did u check database load? sometimes php has to wait for the database and so the php scripts sum up alot`
`16:08.17`	`Antiarc`	`Trac has always seemed a bit heavy to me, but it doesn't seem to get used as much as the wiki and forums.`
`16:08.20`	`Kaelten`	`the svn is the only thing that uses apache atm`
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`16:08.44`	`Kaelten`	`trh: hrm not sure, going to look at implementing memcached sometime soon.`
`16:09.01`	`Trancer`	`Kaelten: for PHP?`
`16:09.16`	`Kaelten`	`Trancer: ya, I know at least the wiki will use it.`
`16:09.17`	`inph`	`can we see some machine stats :p`
`16:09.17`	`Saroz`	`sylvanaar, bug in popupmessage, got nil, line 328`
`16:09.19`	`TheKarn`	`Kaelten, i think you should stop hosting your amature pr0n on wowace.`
`16:09.27`	`nadas`	`anyone around with commit rights for agUF? :)`
`16:09.27`	`Trancer`	`Kaelten: can also try to slap on eAccelerator`
`16:09.39`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r24518 10Postal/Postal_OpenAll/Postal_OpenAll.lua: Postal: -make sure we have mail before trying to process any, thanks Azurewrath`
`16:09.42`	`Kaelten`	`inph: amd64 2800+`
`16:09.45`	`Deviad`	`Matrix110, OK, Im doing all the needed stuff via svn :P`
`16:09.46`	`Kaelten`	`TheKarn: shhhh!`
`16:09.46`	`Trancer`	`Kaelten: and making a ramdrive and loading the whole / on that isn't very bad either`
`16:09.47`	`Antiarc`	`I'm thinking if you had a memcached setup for pages and expired them even every 60 sec or so, it would greatly lighten the CPU load.`
`16:09.54`	`Deviad`	`works like a charm I'll just remove what I don't need`
`16:09.57`	`Kaelten`	`Trancer: its running xcache which works better for us that eaccelorator`
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`16:10.03`	`Trancer`	`Kaelten: ah k`
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`16:10.13`	`trh`	`i had a lineage2 database (l2dc.onlinewelten.com) with 8 million a month... it totally killed the database server =)`
`16:10.21`	`trh`	`8 million views`
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`16:10.49`	`Kaelten`	`Antiarc: we are looking at trying to have squid on the front end caching the wiki pages, and memcached between the software and the db`
`16:10.58`	`Antiarc`	`Sounds like a plan :)`
`16:11.00`	`Kaelten`	`trh: hehe. fun eh?`
`16:11.03`	`Saroz`	`Squid cache`
`16:11.04`	`Saroz`	`gogo`
`16:11.07`	`Trancer`	`hehe yeah, probly a good idea to setup a squid`
`16:11.08`	`Amadeo`	`mmm, squids`
`16:11.17`	`Kaelten`	`Saroz: only issue is that squid and SMF forums doesn't like each other.`
`16:11.25`	`Saroz`	`so ignore SMF inside squid`
`16:11.27`	`Kaelten`	`so smf never gets cached`
`16:11.32`	`trh`	`Kaelten: yeah.. but fortunately i only had to optimize some queries and the template system for cpu load and it was fine then :)`
`16:11.33`	`Kaelten`	`but the wiki would`
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`16:11.36`	`Saroz`	`indeed`
`16:11.39`	`Trancer`	`SMF is probly the heaviest load causer tho`
`16:11.48`	`Saroz`	`hrm`
`16:11.50`	`Kaelten`	`Trancer: not sure, I know we actualyl have more wiki traffic.`
`16:11.57`	`Varys`	`Hello`
`16:12.00`	`Saroz`	`squid the wiki`
`16:12.08`	`Trancer`	`I guess the wiki is more efficient with the DB tho`
`16:12.16`	`Trancer`	`despite SMF being a good forum, it still fires a fuckload of queries`
`16:12.26`	`Saroz`	`forums usually do that`
`16:12.34`	`trh`	`usually a good wiki systems caches internally pages`
`16:12.40`	`Kaelten`	`I think thats just a forum thing`
`16:12.40`	`trh`	`so that doesnt do that much load`
`16:12.55`	`Trancer`	`it is, they have to, or the looksup become too slow`
`16:12.58`	`_icetrain`	`applications with stupid db access/bad schema design etc can kill almost any hardware :)`
`16:13.04`	`Antiarc`	`Forums are so dynamic in nature that they have to, usually.`
`16:13.38`	`Trancer`	`it's funny to see the amount of technical expertise in here, it's quite big :p`
`16:14.05`	`Trancer`	`in general WoW community is full of coders/isp admins anyway :o`
`16:14.08`	`_icetrain`	`eqdkp is very good example of database abuse :)`
`16:14.09`	`Antiarc`	`We're a room full of programmers. This is basically all we do. :D`
`16:14.12`	`ilifin`	`yikes did lots of mods ever break in this patch`
`16:14.22`	`Trancer`	`ilifin: load of out of date addons ^^`
`16:14.28`	`Trancer`	`Antiarc: ;)`
`16:14.36`	`Trancer`	`_icetrain: eqdkp is PHP abuse aswell`
`16:14.38`	`Matrix110`	`ilifin from my 131 not one broke:P`
`16:14.44`	`Varys`	`Just wondering, do all addons have to be updated with the last patch, I thought most of the API changes was supposed to come in 2.1?`
`16:14.46`	`ilifin`	`Trancer - gratuity is breaking about everything .p`
`16:14.56`	`Deviad`	`Does anyone know how to do the SVN checkout without the externals?`
`16:15.08`	`Trancer`	`Varys: TOC needs update and some API changes (See changes)`
`16:15.09`	`ilifin`	`60% of the fubar modules I was using are not being activated :<`
`16:15.10`	`Kaelten`	`I hate php.`
`16:15.10`	`_icetrain`	`Trancer: yeah :) the db would probable be faster if it was done using a textfile :)`
`16:15.24`	`Trancer`	`_icetrain: hehe, well I more meant their code, it's horrible :p`
`16:15.31`	`Matrix110`	`ilifin Load out of Date Addons in Login screen activated?`
`16:15.33`	`Antiarc`	`Deviad: Tortoise, command line, or other?`
`16:15.39`	`Deviad`	`commandline`
`16:15.47`	`Deviad`	`it's the only one that works 100% free of problems`
`16:15.48`	`trh`	`_icetrain: hehe.. using recursive sql queries for the win ;)`
`16:15.49`	`Deviad`	`:P`
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`16:16.06`	`Trancer`	`mysql only supports that since recently trh ;)`
`16:16.07`	`Antiarc`	`svn co http://my.repo.com/whatever/trunk --ignore-externals`
`16:16.11`	`_icetrain`	`trh: yeah and storing everything as text with no normalization etc :)`
`16:16.13`	`Trancer`	`and eqdkp is as old as the queen of the netherlands`
`16:16.30`	`Trancer`	`and as horrible aswell ^^`
`16:16.31`	`Crys`	`Anyone has a workin Fubar Micromenu and Performance ?`
`16:16.37`	`*** part/#wowace kagaro (n=sscotto@66.193.208.247)`
`16:16.52`	`Matrix110`	`yes`
`16:16.57`	`Matrix110`	`my Performance atleast`
`16:17.01`	`Matrix110`	`dont use Micromenu`
`16:17.17`	`Crys`	`ur performance is the old one or ?`
`16:17.21`	`Crys`	`mine is not working`
`16:17.32`	`Matrix110`	`let me check what rev. iam using`
`16:17.37`	`Crys`	`ty`
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`16:17.38`	`Antiarc`	`I'm trying to think of an elegant way to lighten the load on /files with a distributed file system, but I'm having a hard time coming up with a good one.`
`16:17.52`	`trh`	`_icetrain: not reorganizing the db indexes from time to time can also lead to very very bad performance :)`
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`16:17.57`	`Matrix110`	`r24428`
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`16:18.00`	`Trancer`	`dirty hack: host one half of the files on another server`
`16:18.08`	`Crys`	`it seems the same`
`16:18.16`	`Kaelten`	`Trancer: thats too easy to slant`
`16:18.16`	`Antiarc`	`I think something as simple as a classic Kazaa-type P2P with wowace as the indexer would do it fairly cleanly.`
`16:18.22`	`Matrix110`	`maybe your Libs are borked Crys`
`16:18.32`	`Crys`	`how to update em?`
`16:18.37`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Kaelten : what's the size of the files/ dir ?`
`16:18.37`	`Trancer`	`Antiarc: myeah, I proposed that 4h ago, hehe, but people need to keep running the updaters that way`
`16:18.46`	`Matrix110`	`you are using embedded libs?`
`16:18.50`	`Matrix110`	`or Standalone ones?`
`16:18.53`	`Antiarc`	`Trancer: I keep mine running all the time, so eh :)`
`16:18.55`	`Crys`	`ehm ehm`
`16:18.56`	`Crys`	`:P`
`16:18.59`	`Trancer`	`Antiarc: it will work tho`
`16:19.04`	`Trancer`	`Antiarc: you are an exception then! :P`
`16:19.04`	`Matrix110`	`ok embedded:P`
`16:19.19`	`Crys`	`how should i know that :D?`
`16:19.20`	`Antiarc`	`I also have a dual screen setup with IRC and the updater on one screen, and WoW on the other :)`
`16:19.22`	`trh`	`Antiarc: thats tooo oldschool.. better use something like kademlia with direct hashtable networks`
`16:19.38`	`Antiarc`	`trh: I'm just thinking about simplicity of implementation here`
`16:19.39`	`Trancer`	`I just use two PC's and I play in Windowed mode with my ssh to screen below it :p`
`16:19.39`	`Matrix110`	`Crys if you dont know it you prolly use embedded as you dont notice it:P`
`16:19.47`	`Antiarc`	`It would be a fallback rather than a replacement for /files`
`16:19.52`	`Antiarc`	`Something to lighten the load rather than replace it.`
`16:20.00`	`trh`	`Antiarc: the p2p is easy - there are libraries for everything`
`16:20.09`	`Crys`	`im using photek ui`
`16:20.12`	`Crys`	`that's all i know :P`
`16:20.14`	`Trancer`	`You need to make an entry point tho Antiarc`
`16:20.20`	`trh`	`Antiarc: the difficult thing is to make it userfriendly`
`16:20.23`	`Antiarc`	`Indeed.`
`16:20.23`	`Matrix110`	`Crys hmm goto your Addons folder please Crys`
`16:20.30`	`Crys`	`ok and then`
`16:20.30`	`Trancer`	`So that would either be the WAU or the /files (latter will suck)`
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`16:20.46`	`Matrix110`	`is there a Folder called Ace2 and Crayon Dewdrop ?`
`16:20.57`	`Matrix110`	`CrayonLib sorry`
`16:21.03`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Trancer : what about putting permanent clients on "mirrors" server`
`16:21.04`	`Matrix110`	`same for Dewdrop:P`
`16:21.05`	`Crys`	`negative`
`16:21.11`	`Antiarc`	`peeks at the WowAceUpdater source`
`16:21.13`	`Matrix110`	`k then Photek is using embedded`
`16:21.20`	`Trancer`	`Adirelle\|work: sounds fine enough, but you need to ram those into synch at every SVN pull`
`16:21.21`	`Antiarc`	`(please be in C#, please be in C#, please be in C#)`
`16:21.28`	`Trancer`	`s/ram/smash/`
`16:21.31`	`Matrix110`	`open the FuBar_Performance folder Crys`
`16:21.35`	`Antiarc`	`YAY! C#!`
`16:21.36`	`Crys`	`ok`
`16:21.43`	`Matrix110`	`is inside that Folder a Folder called libs?`
`16:21.45`	`trh`	`Antiarc: <3 c# :)`
`16:21.49`	`Crys`	`yes`
`16:21.56`	`Antiarc`	`I knew it was .NET and was deathly afraid it'd be VB.`
`16:21.57`	`Matrix110`	`kk you are using embedded then`
`16:22.02`	`nee-lap`	`hm`
`16:22.02`	`Trancer`	`Hehehhe`
`16:22.06`	`trh`	`hehe`
`16:22.08`	`Trancer`	`Dim Antiarc keke.`
`16:22.10`	`Matrix110`	`the easiest way to update All you Ace2 mods is using WoWAceUpdater`
`16:22.12`	`nee-lap`	`Maybe wowace.com/files can be mirrored`
`16:22.13`	`Antiarc`	`cry`
`16:22.18`	`Matrix110`	`iam giving you the link in a sec Crys`
`16:22.18`	`Crys`	`i made it`
`16:22.22`	`Matrix110`	`oh`
`16:22.24`	`Crys`	`i have it and i made it`
`16:22.30`	`Antiarc`	`nee-lap: Problem there is keeping it up to date in a meaningful manner without slaughtering bandwidth.`
`16:22.33`	`Adirelle\|work`	`it should be`
`16:22.35`	`Crys`	`but it doesn t show in the option to activate in the fubar`
`16:22.38`	`Antiarc`	`Bah!`
`16:22.40`	`Trancer`	`nee-lap: putting up a mirror serves no use for a long time, besides it will get as hardcore /.'d as the main`
`16:22.41`	`nee-lap`	`Hm`
`16:22.45`	`Ordog`	`put libtorrent and according hooks in the updater asap -.-`
`16:22.46`	`Adirelle\|work`	`but i guess it is quite huge`
`16:22.47`	`Trancer`	`nee-lap: making just both unavail :p`
`16:22.47`	`Matrix110`	`oh Crys did you check Load out of Date Addons?`
`16:22.51`	`Crys`	`yes`
`16:22.54`	`Matrix110`	`weird`
`16:23.00`	`nee-lap`	`Indeed. as a mirror might be as destructive as patch-day if implemented improperly`
`16:23.00`	`Crys`	`and it s gettin loaded`
`16:23.01`	`ilifin`	`anyone got a wowaceupdater for mac os x?`
`16:23.01`	`Antiarc`	`I have Visual Studio 7.1 on this machine and the .sln is from a newer version.`
`16:23.07`	`\|Kev\|`	`ilifin: yes`
`16:23.15`	`Trancer`	`I hosted a wow patch once on my box`
`16:23.16`	`Ordog`	`hm pvp rewards didnt become cheaper`
`16:23.17`	`\|Kev\|`	`ilifin: http://code.google.com/p/macaceupdater`
`16:23.17`	`ilifin`	`\|Kev\|, really`
`16:23.18`	`Ordog`	`yet`
`16:23.18`	`Trancer`	`that URL leaked`
`16:23.21`	`ilifin`	`!`
`16:23.25`	`Trancer`	`was doing 80 mbit/s constantly`
`16:23.27`	`Crys`	`it simply doesn t show up`
`16:23.43`	`Matrix110`	`Crys write /ace2 show all`
`16:23.45`	`Matrix110`	`ingame`
`16:23.51`	`\|Kev\|`	`ilifin: it's using the mirror by default, you'll probably want to make it use http://www.wowace.com/files/ instead`
`16:23.53`	`Matrix110`	`and look if its inside that list`
`16:24.13`	`Trancer`	`it's stable now kev?`
`16:24.14`	`Elkano`	`Antiarc, you could load VS8 express from MS ;)`
`16:24.23`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah, I'll probably have to.`
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`16:24.37`	`\|Kev\|`	`Trancer: it's probably possible to make it go wrong`
`16:24.39`	`trh`	`Trancer: fyi sometimes they leak through getright or other download managers (filemirrors.com)`
`16:24.39`	`Antiarc`	`Is WAU a .NET 2.0 app?`
`16:24.47`	`Matrix110`	`yes Antiarc`
`16:24.50`	`Antiarc`	`Ah.`
`16:24.57`	`Trancer`	`trh: yeah`
`16:25.00`	`\|Kev\|`	`Trancer: but Galatea, Tequilla, Hipnos and some people here are using it fine`
`16:25.05`	`Trancer`	`trh: well I just moved the file to another loc. done`
`16:25.10`	`Trancer`	`\|Kev\|: hmhm k, nice :)`
`16:25.18`	`Klazar\|work`	`Kaelten: just fired off 25 bux, not much but you folks do a great job. Thnx for your hardwork`
`16:25.21`	`Ordog`	`http://sourceforge.net/projects/libtorrent/ -.-`
`16:25.22`	`\|Kev\|`	`I'll release a new version soonish`
`16:25.56`	`\|Kev\|`	`that will be much better behaved, but it's fine atm as long as you don't mind rough edges (clicking columns doesn't sort them) and you don't try to break it (invalid paths in the options)`
`16:26.18`	`kagaro`	`does bartender support a stance bar for shadowrofm? anyone know?`
`16:26.28`	`kagaro`	`s/shadowrofm/shadowform/`
`16:26.50`	`Matrix110`	`i didnt have one on my priest atleast`
`16:26.50`	`Trancer`	`Ordog: bittorrent is not viable for the files here`
`16:26.52`	`Deviad`	`Is there any way to checkout a list of directories and next update just them?`
`16:26.53`	`Trancer`	`Ordog: they are too small`
`16:26.58`	`Deviad`	`always comamnd line`
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`16:27.23`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Deviad : which OS ?`
`16:27.23`	`Ordog`	`you can break down the chunk size to 4kb or sth ^^`
`16:27.31`	`Deviad`	`windows`
`16:27.39`	`Deviad`	`but it should be quite the same`
`16:27.44`	`Amadeo`	`I need to buy a DVDRW drive still! argh`
`16:27.47`	`Trancer`	`Ordog: hehehe`
`16:27.48`	`Adirelle\|work`	`oh, you mean with WAU ?`
`16:28.01`	`Trancer`	`Ordog: and have more chunk checking traffic than actual traffic ;)`
`16:28.07`	`Ordog`	`yeah!`
`16:28.10`	`Ordog`	`that would be cool`
`16:28.13`	`Trancer`	`:P`
`16:28.31`	`Crys`	`Matrix110: it says it s loaded`
`16:28.43`	`Matrix110`	`hmm thats really weird`
`16:28.47`	`Saroz`	`curse down -.-`
`16:28.54`	`Crys`	`but it doesn t show up on the fubar br`
`16:28.56`	`Crys`	`bar`
`16:29.03`	`Trancer`	`Ordog: blizzard uses some hybrid btw`
`16:29.07`	`Trancer`	`Ordog: of torrent + http download`
`16:29.14`	`Matrix110`	`Crys quit WoW`
`16:29.20`	`Royal`	`Tuxedo Jacket and Pants used to have a lvl requirement right? lvl 30ish?`
`16:29.25`	`Royal`	`woops, wrong chan ><`
`16:29.45`	`Adirelle\|work`	`:)`
`16:29.50`	`Matrix110`	`goto WoW Folder\WTF\Account\YourAccountName\Saved Variables`
`16:30.02`	`Matrix110`	`and delete FuBar_PerformanceFu.lua inside it`
`16:30.05`	`Elkano`	`but wedding dress has 30 so I think tuxedo too`
`16:30.21`	`Crys`	`ok`
`16:30.23`	`Royal`	`Tuxedo doesnt anymore`
`16:30.28`	`Matrix110`	`try now`
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`16:30.42`	`Matrix110`	`if it doesnt work now i cant help you`
`16:30.46`	`Elkano`	`btw: is there any info on the no leatherworking specializations online?`
`16:31.34`	`Crys`	`there is no performance file there`
`16:31.35`	`Crys`	`i deleted it 1 hour ago`
`16:31.35`	`Matrix110`	`woot Oo`
`16:31.35`	`Crys`	`:)`
`16:31.35`	`Matrix110`	`oh`
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`16:31.35`	`Crys`	`boths`
`16:31.35`	`Matrix110`	`lol`
`16:31.35`	`Crys`	`there were 2 files`
`16:31.35`	`Matrix110`	`try to delete the FuBar.lua`
`16:31.37`	`Crys`	`then i have to reset all the bar?`
`16:31.41`	`Matrix110`	`yes`
`16:32.02`	`Amadeo`	`For some reason I have the Magical Trevor song in my head`
`16:32.44`	`Deviad`	`Adirelle\|work, I mean with SVN command line`
`16:32.55`	`Crys`	`in the fubar.lua`
`16:32.58`	`Deviad`	`like svn co http://blablabla/trunk`
`16:33.00`	`Crys`	`there is the performance menu`
`16:33.00`	`Crys`	`:P`
`16:33.04`	`Crys`	`i mean, i read it`
`16:33.09`	`Adirelle\|work`	`deviad: er... scrolls back to read what this answer is about`
`16:33.12`	`Deviad`	`Since trunk is huge and I just need my mods, how can I do that?`
`16:33.17`	`Matrix110`	`well you can delete that part of the .lua if you know howto delete it:P`
`16:33.39`	`inph`	`Kaelten: what os/kernel is the server on atm?`
`16:33.45`	`Deviad`	`for example I want to download with 1 single command bigwigs, ace2 and ora2`
`16:33.47`	`CIA-17`	`03usz * r24519 10MD5Lib/ (MD5-1.0/MD5-1.0.lua MD5Lib.toc):`
`16:33.47`	`CIA-17`	`MD5Lib`
`16:33.47`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated .toc`
`16:33.49`	`Deviad`	`how do I do that?`
`16:33.49`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Deviad : ugly .bat which check them out one by one ?`
`16:33.50`	`Matrix110`	`But tbh configuring a FuBar needs like 3mins:P`
`16:34.11`	`Deviad`	`Adirelle\|work, that's what I was thinking of, I guess I'll do so.`
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`16:34.18`	`Deviad`	`and I'll make one for updates too`
`16:34.28`	`Antiarc`	`Kaelten: WAU currently opens one connection for every "latest.txt" file for each mod it has to check`
`16:34.29`	`Deviad`	`it's so much easier than wow updater :P`
`16:34.32`	`CIA-17`	`03usz * r24520 10TEALib/ (TEA-1.0/TEA-1.0.lua TEALib.toc):`
`16:34.32`	`CIA-17`	`TEALib`
`16:34.32`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated .toc`
`16:34.33`	`Deviad`	`wow ace updater*`
`16:34.34`	`Deviad`	`:P`
`16:34.42`	`Adirelle\|work`	`deviad: i believe there is a loop feature in XP cmd line`
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`16:34.55`	`CIA-17`	`03usz * r24521 10PrivateChat/ (Core.lua PrivateChat.toc):`
`16:34.55`	`CIA-17`	`PrivateChat`
`16:34.55`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated .toc`
`16:34.58`	`Antiarc`	`You could cut down a ton of connections by publishing a single file "latest-all.txt" that had modname \t latest_revision_number that WAU could use`
`16:35.03`	`nee-lap`	`hm. Prat chatframe minimum size no longer works?`
`16:35.07`	`Adirelle\|work`	`deviad: you may evan achieve to get the list of directories to update them`
`16:35.11`	`Adirelle\|work`	`s/evan/even/`
`16:35.13`	`evl`	`Is it possible to customize the messages outputed by the default Combat Text?`
`16:35.35`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Antiarc: i was thinking about that, plus add a list of mirrors in it`
`16:35.39`	`Antiarc`	`That'd reduce the worst-case number of connections per WAU update from (2N) to (N+1)`
`16:35.54`	`Antiarc`	`Best case, it reduces it to 1, rather than N.`
`16:36.27`	`\|Kev\|`	`Deviad: why not install a shell on your system? that's the easiest way by far`
`16:36.39`	`Adirelle\|work`	`mirrors that would be updated at a slower rate than the whole files and will only contain latest rev`
`16:36.42`	`CIA-17`	`03usz * r24522 10TooltipExchange/ (Core.lua TooltipExchange.toc):`
`16:36.42`	`CIA-17`	`TooltipExchange`
`16:36.42`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated .toc`
`16:37.02`	`\|Kev\|`	`for i in bigwigs bartender whatevermodsyounamed; do wget http://.../files/$i/$i.zip; unzip $i; done`
`16:37.07`	`Matrix110`	`hmm r2500 till 16. will work i think!`
`16:37.17`	`Adirelle\|work`	`\|kev\| won !`
`16:37.26`	`Crys`	`matrixx i deleted those file, and the fubar ricreates has it was`
`16:37.32`	`Adirelle\|work`	`if you have a bash shell`
`16:37.49`	`Srosh`	`does someone already have an addon that stops these annoying BG queue sounds from continually appearing?`
`16:38.00`	`Matrix110`	`Crys could you write that again?^^`
`16:38.16`	`Crys`	`I deleted those files, logged, and the bar was still there as it was`
`16:38.33`	`Matrix110`	`did you EXIT the game before you deleted the files?`
`16:38.40`	`Crys`	`aye`
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`16:38.53`	`Matrix110`	`hmm weird`
`16:39.22`	`Matrix110`	`normally it has to be resetted`
`16:39.33`	`Matrix110`	`FuBar isnt saving the options somewhere else`
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`16:40.01`	`Srosh`	`what's his problem?`
`16:40.14`	`Matrix110`	`PerformanceFU is loaded but doesnt show on FuBar`
`16:40.22`	`Matrix110`	`and cant be selected via rightlick`
`16:40.34`	`Srosh`	`maybe it's on standby... try working with /performancefu`
`16:40.34`	`Matrix110`	`deleting all saved variables from Fubar/PerformanceFU doesnt help`
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`16:40.54`	`Matrix110`	`nah Srosh the deleting of the sv shouldve helped for that`
`16:41.00`	`Srosh`	`yeah, it should`
`16:41.01`	`Matrix110`	`standy is saved in the saved variables`
`16:41.05`	`Matrix110`	`*Standby`
`16:41.11`	`Srosh`	`but it seems it didn't oo`
`16:41.18`	`plojoo`	`does anyone know whats the most recent version of Aguf ?`
`16:41.29`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Deviad: for /D %addon in (*) do svn update %addon`
`16:42.00`	`Adirelle\|work`	`notice it will spit error on non-svn directories`
`16:42.08`	`Srosh`	`my guess it's not on the visible area of the FuBar (maybe the FuBar extends out of the visible screen)`
`16:42.14`	`Srosh`	`+is`
`16:42.42`	`Matrix110`	`deleting the saved variables shouldve solved that:P`
`16:43.23`	`Matrix110`	`and he updated the mods with WAU i forgot to add`
`16:43.38`	`ravagernl`	`nevcariel, can bartender3 chage bars based on range? (hunter)`
`16:43.42`	`Matrix110`	`omg i hate Fileplanet-.-`
`16:43.56`	`Antiarc`	`ravagernl: That's not permitted by blizzard`
`16:44.01`	`Antiarc`	`At least not in combat.`
`16:44.06`	`Matrix110`	`fucking exklusive stuff i need to wait like 1year to dl it`
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`16:44.16`	`Pkekyo`	`hey guys, having a problem with installing the new patch here...`
`16:44.20`	`Srosh`	`dunno, if he has many plugins and "plugin overflow" isn't enabled, hm`
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`16:44.35`	`Pkekyo`	`it says "Waiting for files to close."`
`16:44.35`	`Pkekyo`	`anyone know what I can do 'bout this?`
`16:44.42`	`day0`	`hi people`
`16:44.45`	`day0`	`who know`
`16:44.49`	`Llais`	`Wow, the file server's gettin thumped eh?`
`16:44.53`	`Matrix110`	`Pkeky did you reboot and used the .exe from the Patch?`
`16:45.05`	`Matrix110`	`*Pkekyo`
`16:45.12`	`day0`	`why my FuHonor shows me all honor(bonus, kill) twice and counted it twice??`
`16:45.14`	`Pkekyo`	`haven't rebooted, comp goes to hell whenever I do that`
`16:45.14`	`Pkekyo`	`other than that: yes`
`16:45.21`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Llais: yep, european patch day`
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`16:45.25`	`Matrix110`	`"waiting for files to close" means that some parts of WoW are still loaded somehow`
`16:45.28`	`ilifin`	`is combo points view supposed to have vanished in ag_UF?`
`16:45.38`	`Matrix110`	`and the updater wont start until everything from wow is closed`
`16:45.44`	`Pkekyo`	`weird`
`16:45.46`	`Barbanus`	`Does anyone know if mobs actually have strength / agility values, like is the paladins talent vindication actually useful in pve?`
`16:45.50`	`Pkekyo`	`haven't touched the thing all day`
`16:45.52`	`Matrix110`	`you can try terminating it via Task Manager but if it doesnt work reboot:P`
`16:45.55`	`evl`	`how do you change the self-cast hotkey in 20003? :(`
`16:45.58`	`Arathon`	`day0 - I believe HonorFu has been doing that for a while now..`
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`16:46.02`	`ravagernl`	`antiarc: guess Ill have to use macros then`
`16:46.30`	`kenlyric\|work`	`nice. The dwarves can't tell the difference between blood elves and night elves.`
`16:46.35`	`day0`	`Arathon, why? some days ago it works normally!`
`16:46.47`	`Pkekyo`	`kenlyric: howcome?`
`16:47.12`	`trh`	`kenlyric\|work: b/c they cant see the face?`
`16:47.13`	`Adirelle\|work`	`ravagernl : you mean macro to switch bar when you press button ?`
`16:47.13`	`Arathon`	`day0 - I don't know. HonorFu has been doing that to me from 2.0.1 onward.`
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`16:47.19`	`Srosh`	`they only say "the elves betrayed us" when they really mean "the high elves betrayed us"`
`16:47.21`	`ravagernl`	`yeah`
`16:47.37`	`ravagernl`	`a friend of me wants to put his shots on a ranged bar`
`16:47.41`	`Matrix110`	`like dorfs care about if its Belf or Nelf or Gelfs :P`
`16:47.44`	`day0`	`Arathon, and what do u use instead honorfu?`
`16:47.44`	`Llais`	`I just want to grab the latest version of cartographer, but can't seem to get my hands on it from anywhere. WowAceUpdater's been runnin for 3 hours and still hasn't finished, and it just started erroring on every frickin mod`
`16:48.02`	`Pkekyo`	`gaaah, can'`
`16:48.12`	`Pkekyo`	`+t wait for my TBC copy to be shipped`
`16:48.15`	`Matrix110`	`Llais i could dcc it to you i updated ~10mins ago`
`16:48.28`	`Arathon`	`day0 - Currently I don't use anything else. I just divide my honor valued in HonorFu by 2 and it usually is pretty close to the honor I'll get for the day.`
`16:48.29`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I was hoping blizz had a surprise for us and the night elves were switching sides :)`
`16:48.30`	`Llais`	`that'd be awesome Matrix110`
`16:48.37`	`Matrix110`	`But i only got Cartho+Miner+herba`
`16:48.43`	`day0`	`Arathon, its terrible. =(`
`16:48.45`	`Llais`	`don't know if gaim can accept DCC but it's worth a shot`
`16:48.47`	`xlvii`	`any fix for the missing combat points? (ag_uf)`
`16:48.55`	`nee-lap`	`My honorfu works fine, I haven't lost honor yet`
`16:48.55`	`Matrix110`	`ill .rar it`
`16:48.57`	`trh`	`kenlyric\|work: you mean the female nightelves do now like the female ones? :P`
`16:49.11`	`day0`	`nee-lap, it was ok for me 1-2 days ago too..`
`16:49.15`	`Pkekyo`	`Matrix110: found out what kept wow from patching...had something to do with my remote desktop software apparently...`
`16:49.26`	`Matrix110`	`does it work Llais?`
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`16:49.28`	`Matrix110`	`ah it does`
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`16:49.34`	`nee-lap`	`It still worked for me today and yesterday :)`
`16:49.44`	`Llais`	`it's workin thanks Matrix110`
`16:49.47`	`Matrix110`	`my upload sucks though^^`
`16:50.01`	`Ordog`	`who is in charge for vbagnon?`
`16:50.02`	`Arathon`	`nee-lap : You are getting correct honor values scored and not doubled??`
`16:50.06`	`Llais`	`it's faster than it's able to pull it from the file server`
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`16:50.09`	`nee-lap`	`Nope, not doubled`
`16:50.13`	`Ordog`	`or who is familiar with the code?`
`16:50.20`	`nee-lap`	`I am on a EU server, if that matters.`
`16:50.31`	`nee-lap`	`Usually HonorFu shows a bit less than my Blizzard honor frame`
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`16:50.54`	`Adirelle\|work`	`nee-lap : I too and honorfu report (in fact glorylib actually) too many points too`
`16:50.58`	`day0`	`nee-lap, I'm too at EU realm`
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`16:51.11`	`Arathon`	`nee-lap : Hmmm.. I gotta figure out what's messed with my config then.. I've been getting double the value of the true honor ever since 2.0.1 and I try to keep up-to-date with WoWUpdater 1.6`
`16:51.17`	`Ordog`	`honorfu is always broken for me because it resets on crash (crashing due to common.mpq corrupt often lately) ...`
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`16:51.39`	`Ordog`	`guess my ram or hd are going to die`
`16:51.40`	`nee-lap`	`:\| I update at least once a day too`
`16:51.44`	`day0`	`Ordog: and what are u using instead?`
`16:51.45`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Ordog : in fact SV aren't saved on crash, it affect all addons`
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`16:51.59`	`Barbanus`	`Ordog, unfortaunately thats nothing that can be fixed by the mod`
`16:52.07`	`Ordog`	`ye Adirelle\|work thats why i dont use any honor addon ^^`
`16:52.09`	`Barbanus`	`yea, what Adirelle\|work said`
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`16:52.17`	`day0`	`all perfect honor-plugs usein titan, but I am using fubar <_<`
`16:52.26`	`Barbanus`	`Ordog, with that kind of reliability, how would you raid?`
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`16:52.43`	`Adirelle\|work`	`dunno why glorylib find far more honor that blizzard reports...`
`16:52.44`	`Ordog`	`i can predict when its going to crash up to 80%`
`16:52.45`	`Matrix110`	`Ordog tried using the Repair Tool to repair common.mpq?`
`16:52.52`	`Adirelle\|work`	`nightly factor fix ?`
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`16:53.16`	`Ordog`	`Matrix110 i have to run the repair tool clearing chache and 10 secs additional then close it and it works again`
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`16:53.33`	`Matrix110`	`Oo`
`16:53.45`	`Matrix110`	`what people have for problems with games always`
`16:53.56`	`CIA-17`	`03ricowan * r24523 10FuBar_PetFu/ (FuBar_PetFu.toc PetFu.lua): FuBar_PetFu: - Updated TOC, added a fix for nil value error when a warlock pet dies`
`16:53.57`	`Ordog`	`has sth todo with some chunks within the pagefile partition or ram`
`16:54.00`	`Matrix110`	`it cant be that everything runs perfect at my pc and so many others ppl got bugs`
`16:54.04`	`Ordog`	`not beeing able to be read`
`16:54.05`	`odt`	`hmm, seems like something with profiles has changed`
`16:54.06`	`Ordog`	`i guess`
`16:54.13`	`mangoshake`	`Arathon: I don't have that problem with HonorFu. From what I read on the forums, it's because BattlegroundFu uses an old version of GloryLib.`
`16:54.14`	`Ordog`	`my pc is 5 years old`
`16:54.22`	`odt`	`instead of char of realm some addons now use char - realm`
`16:54.25`	`Ordog`	`its in a tower that is from early 98'`
`16:54.27`	`mangoshake`	`just update BGFu's GLory with HonorFu's`
`16:54.30`	`Matrix110`	`lol^^`
`16:54.43`	`day0`	`mangoshake: thnx for advice, man! I wiil try it now..`
`16:54.44`	`xlvii`	`has anyone else seen a bunch of uh.. 'chatty' npcs popping up?`
`16:54.48`	`xlvii`	`they all say`
`16:54.55`	`xlvii`	`'Have you seen the explosion in the North?'`
`16:54.59`	`xlvii`	`what's that about? >_>`
`16:55.04`	`nee-lap`	`Hm. For some reason when I press any interface button I get the Blizzard ignore/disable message`
`16:55.04`	`Ordog`	`exchanged anything but its going to die soon so im not that astonashed by it bugging aroun d ^^`
`16:55.06`	`xlvii`	`chinese new year or something? ;o`
`16:55.18`	`\|Kev\|`	`xlvii: that'll be the crash`
`16:55.28`	`Arathon`	`mangoshake - Thanks for the tip.. I'll do that once WoWUpdater has downloaded my updates (taking forever due to the patch-slamming)`
`16:55.33`	`\|Kev\|`	`xlvii: of the drainy into the north :)`
`16:55.34`	`mangoshake`	`np`
`16:55.43`	`xlvii`	`\|Kev\|, the 'crash'`
`16:55.43`	`\|Kev\|`	`eredar`
`16:55.44`	`xlvii`	`ahh okay ;p`
`16:55.46`	`Iceroth`	`did the paladin nerfs go live? crusader strike cooldown increase to 10s and vengeance nerf?`
`16:55.46`	`xlvii`	`OH!`
`16:55.47`	`xlvii`	`i get it ;p`
`16:55.49`	`\|Kev\|`	`the ship the drainy were travelling in`
`16:55.54`	`\|Kev\|`	`I assume :)`
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`16:55.59`	`xlvii`	`thanks mate.`
`16:56.03`	`xlvii`	`can we actually 'see' it.`
`16:56.04`	`xlvii`	`?`
`16:56.11`	`\|Kev\|`	`I assume not`
`16:56.12`	`Adirelle\|work`	`arathon, mangoshake : if you use the two addon, both will use the freshest version of glorylib`
`16:56.13`	`Kirkburn`	`Anyone had problems with CF2, or is all okay?`
`16:56.23`	`\|Kev\|`	`but I have no idea`
`16:56.28`	`\|Kev\|`	`I'm EU and haven't gotten home from work yet`
`16:56.32`	`nee-lap`	`Ah, it's a teksupport problem`
`16:56.33`	`xlvii`	`okay`
`16:56.41`	`Trancer`	`EU is working fine`
`16:56.45`	`Kirkburn`	`(darn word replacer, that should have said ClearFont2)`
`16:56.49`	`Adirelle\|work`	`arathon, mangoshake : all Ace2 libs are designed to update themselves in all addon from the freshest one`
`16:56.54`	`\|Kev\|`	`Trancer: "and haven't gotten home from work yet" :p`
`16:57.00`	`Arathon`	`Adirelle\|work - That's what I thought.`
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`16:57.11`	`SoLoR`	`Kirkburn looks fine just bump toc if noone did it yet`
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`16:57.23`	`Zed-`	`kirkburn CF2 seems ok after patch`
`16:57.30`	`Kirkburn`	`Cool`
`16:57.32`	`CIA-17`	`03ricowan * r24524 10FuBar_RicoXPFu/ (FuBar_RicoXPFu.toc RicoXPFu.lua): FuBar_RicoXPFu: - Added switch for hiding current XP, updated TOC`
`16:57.44`	`Kirkburn`	`I'm back at Uni 2moro, shall look at stuff over the weekend`
`16:57.48`	`Skew`	`fence isn't working :o`
`16:57.59`	`xlvii`	`DAMN IT >_>`
`16:58.03`	`xlvii`	`20G on skills, damn it.`
`16:58.12`	`Matrix110`	`cry more!`
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`16:58.33`	`Skew`	`what a thoughtful comment matrix`
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`16:59.04`	`mangoshake`	`Adirelle\|work: does it depend on what you use? The Updater just download the zip which has the externals included. I understand if you use SVN then your libs gets pulled in using the freshest copy`
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`16:59.39`	`Adirelle\|work`	`mangoshake: i meant that if you have both revision 25202 and 26254 of glorylib in your addon directory, rev 26254 will be used even by addon shipping the 25202`
`16:59.39`	`Matrix110`	`Skew if people cry about the prices of skills in wow such comments are just true, Skills in WoW are cheap, you can respec etc. :P`
`16:59.49`	Funkeh`	`something is casuing a taint on the target and targetoftarget frame`
`17:00.03`	Funkeh`	`unoticable if you use custom unit frames`
`17:00.15`	Funkeh`	`but if you use blizz frames, atatck a target then switch target in combat the frame disapears`
`17:00.22`	`Adirelle\|work`	`mangoshake: at loading, rev26254 with erase rev25202 and all addon will use the same version`
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`17:00.30`	`mangoshake`	`Adirelle\|work: ok. I don't use both myself so I never saw the problem. Just reporting what I read from the forums. that topic came up more than a few times`
`17:00.46`	`Matrix110`	`Adirelle\|work nah thats not totally true, if rev 25202 was Glorylib 2.0 and 26254 is Glorylib 2.1 it wont use it:P`
`17:00.52`	`mangoshake`	`Adirelle\|work: if that doesn't work then you may have to ask around some more`
`17:00.53`	`Skew`	`well`
`17:01.07`	`Skew`	`the price rises often matrix, so no, i don't think it's cheap`
`17:01.20`	`Matrix110`	`did you play other MMORPGs?`
`17:01.23`	`Skew`	`if it was fixed at a certain price, it would be cheap/reasonable`
`17:01.26`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Matrix110: exact... but I never talked about majors ;)`
`17:01.32`	`Skew`	`no`
`17:01.46`	`Matrix110`	`there is the point Skew:P`
`17:02.00`	`Matrix110`	`in other mmorpgs you cant respec, Skills cost money you need to grind 1 week long:P`
`17:02.01`	`Skew`	`?_?`
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`17:02.11`	`Arathon`	`Mango&Adirelle: Thank you for the assistance :) Off to figure out a better way of updating my addons with the heavy load WoWAce's server is experiencing. Have a good day folks..`
`17:02.23`	`Matrix110`	`wow is a carebear mmorpg already and ppl cry about the costs is just ridiculous:P`
`17:02.25`	`Skew`	`well i have a different opinion on respeccing then`
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`17:03.00`	`Skew`	`as a priest, i rely heavily on my spec, but i also need money, if i want to pvp dmg, i can't do that properly with a healing build, and grinding is harder`
`17:03.15`	`Matrix110`	`that Priests can pvp is already part of the carebear MMORPG wow:P`
`17:03.19`	`Skew`	`or i can dump the whole thing, and decide to go shadow, but that would hurt my guild`
`17:03.22`	`Matrix110`	`*dmg in pvp`
`17:03.28`	`snurre-`	`just heal in pvp`
`17:03.37`	`snurre-`	`get a premade, heal and skip the respec costs`
`17:03.49`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`healing = win in pvp :)`
`17:03.50`	`Trancer`	`Matrix110: reflective shield are teh funnies!`
`17:03.50`	`snurre-`	`do instances for money, skip the respec costs`
`17:03.59`	`Skew`	`i do often, but being a shadow priest is a great subsitute for the healing grind`
`17:04.12`	`Trancer`	`pffrt, just spec shadow and go run around in healing gear`
`17:04.15`	`Skew`	`i won't submit into doing things i don't like to do`
`17:04.16`	`Matrix110`	`Healers are much more usefull than a class that is the 2nd best healing class ingame which does gimped dmg compared to classes that can even choose`
`17:04.17`	`Trancer`	`it's great fun to heal and silence those fucking mages`
`17:04.23`	`Trancer`	`and mindflay them to omgdeath`
`17:04.27`	`Prophy`	`is there a way to show rogue combopoints on the PLAYER Frame? instead of target frame..`
`17:04.36`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Skew on the other side 1-2 priests in a raiding guild aint a bad thing either`
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`17:04.45`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`*shadow`
`17:04.56`	`Skew`	`yeah i know, but we're only 2 holy priests atm`
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`17:05.08`	`Skew`	`and as a newcomer to the guild, i won't be complaining :P`
`17:05.16`	`drakonblayde`	`out of curiosity, anyone know why oCD isn't available on wowace.com anymore?`
`17:05.20`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`ah ye then it's a bit harder :)`
`17:05.33`	`Matrix110`	`drakonblayde because people modified it and haste decided to drop Ace2 support`
`17:05.37`	`Trancer`	`no longer maintained drakonblayde`
`17:05.48`	`Matrix110`	`Trancer thats not true haste does maintain his addons`
`17:05.49`	`_neuron_`	`it is maintained Trancer, just not on wowfiles.com`
`17:05.59`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`but imo. there should be a rotation amongst the priest in the guild, to keep up the motivation for these priests`
`17:06.02`	`Skew`	`we were planning on getting neferian down before TBC, and hopefully will on friday, but i have my sole responsiblity to help the guild as some of the shadow priests are actually lousy and need to l2play`
`17:06.03`	`Trancer`	`oh, hmm, that's what I picked up last`
`17:06.12`	`Skew`	`like flash healing the MT.. god`
`17:06.13`	`Srosh`	`www.fuxsake.net is his page`
`17:06.19`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`we do that in the guild i am in`
`17:06.22`	`Skew`	`leeching those precious innervates`
`17:06.38`	`Trancer`	`what does ocD do anyway`
`17:06.42`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`how far have you come on neff ?`
`17:06.46`	`Skew`	`i can understand if you're more healers on 1 target, but an example is 1 priest flash healing a tank alone`
`17:06.52`	`Matrix110`	`Trancer it displays cooldown of skills with bars`
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`17:07.02`	`Trancer`	`ah`
`17:07.04`	`Skew`	`i don't know, i've only been in the guild for 1½ months`
`17:07.14`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`ah okay :)`
`17:07.24`	`kenlyric\|work`	`skew, why would anyone be solo healing the MT?`
`17:07.34`	`kenlyric\|work`	`well, I guess during the transition to phase 2.`
`17:07.37`	`Feldia`	`there's nothing wrong with flash heal`
`17:07.46`	`Skew`	`don't ask me :P`
`17:07.51`	`Skew`	`the raiding recently has been uncoordinated`
`17:08.01`	`haste`	`noes, I like all the confusion`
`17:08.03`	`Skew`	`and even though it annoys me, i can't really be upset or i'll get the /gkick`
`17:08.13`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I used heal rank 2. It was the same healing as a flash heal, but took, longer and cost a whole lot less mana. But there were at least 4 of us on him.`
`17:08.18`	`haste`	`It's always been there anyway`
`17:08.28`	`Trancer`	`heal rank 2 is downscaled so much now, heal rank 4 is at least needed`
`17:08.44`	`Trancer`	`less benefit from gear and such, bah`
`17:08.46`	`kenlyric\|work`	`yeah, I haven't raided since 2.0, but I don't even have heal on my bar anymore.`
`17:08.49`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Skew raiding now is chaotic and probably will be for most guilds until TBC finally arrives`
`17:08.50`	`Feldia`	`making generalizations like that is pretty dumb trancer`
`17:09.00`	`Skew`	`yeah`
`17:09.01`	`Feldia`	`the level of healing needed is based on many factors`
`17:09.02`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I'd suspect with the level limits that gheal rank 1 is probably the minimum.`
`17:09.02`	`Trancer`	`Feldia: yes, and I love to do that`
`17:09.03`	`Matrix110`	`ye in most guilds people are pvp specced`
`17:09.09`	`Skew`	`as a guild that can clear entire MC, we couldn't take down the tiger boss in ZG`
`17:09.10`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`we have been holding and just done the instance runs whever we had the people for it`
`17:09.18`	`Trancer`	`Feldia: ... where did you see me talk about the level of healing needed?`
`17:09.21`	`kenlyric\|work`	`tiger boss is rough.`
`17:09.32`	`Feldia`	`where you said " heal rank 2 is downscaled so much now, heal rank 4 is at least needed"`
`17:09.32`	`kenlyric\|work`	`you miss a kick on himm and it can get screwy fast.`
`17:09.35`	`Skew`	`yeah, but the RL usually assumes everyone knows what to do`
`17:09.50`	`Trancer`	`Feldia: if you read the line previous to that you should see he compares it to be the same healing as flash heal`
`17:09.56`	`Matrix110`	`you cant sadly as a RL if you dont have TOP people`
`17:10.01`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`every boss has it's own things, we had cleared MC also but had a real hard time with heer in ZG`
`17:10.08`	`Matrix110`	`mostly you need to explain everything 100% and cant rely on people as a RL-.-`
`17:10.10`	`kenlyric\|work`	`no, I said I used to :)`
`17:10.11`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`*hexxer`
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`17:10.25`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Blitzed\|Punk: I never saw a dead hexxer.`
`17:10.32`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`:p`
`17:10.36`	`kenlyric\|work`	`though I saw a dead nefarian and fankriss.`
`17:10.45`	`trh`	`the hexxer is the hardest mob in z'g`
`17:10.48`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`hexxer is a royal pain in the ass`
`17:10.53`	`trh`	`but he is manageble`
`17:10.56`	`Adirelle\|work`	`couldn't say it better`
`17:10.57`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`True`
`17:11.01`	`trh`	`esp. since one patch a while ago`
`17:11.04`	`Skew`	`alot of guilds just tend to skip him`
`17:11.10`	`Skew`	`atleast that's what i experienced`
`17:11.15`	`Matrix110`	`i used to love the Hakkar fight when ZG came ingame`
`17:11.20`	`kenlyric\|work`	`plus, getting melee classes to go to hexxer is tough, since they're loot whores.`
`17:11.26`	`Matrix110`	`but now its way to trivial`
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`17:11.27`	`Dayne\|Work`	`ahem`
`17:11.33`	`trh`	`our guild decided to do hakkar only if the hexxer got down`
`17:11.42`	`trh`	`that was a good motivation for all to to their best`
`17:11.43`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Matrix, i guess that was cause it was an enterely other boss fight than many`
`17:11.45`	`Feldia`	`the best thign about the hakkar fight was the disease`
`17:11.47`	`Adirelle\|work`	`trh: that was a good idea`
`17:11.49`	`kenlyric\|work`	`we had to go on strike in one of my guilds to even get to take a shot at hexxer.`
`17:11.50`	`Feldia`	`as soon as they removed that it became boring`
`17:11.50`	`Dayne\|Work`	`hexxer is just different than your average tank and spank`
`17:11.55`	`Matrix110`	`Blitzed\|Punk ye`
`17:11.57`	`Adirelle\|work`	`we still doesn't do the hexxer all time`
`17:11.57`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`having to get him down thru poison was kinda new and nice`
`17:12.07`	`Dayne\|Work`	`thats why folks at that level have such a hard time with him`
`17:12.18`	`Matrix110`	`Hexxer just needs warlocks!`
`17:12.24`	`Skew`	`what? has hexxer been nerfed recently?`
`17:12.25`	`Dayne\|Work`	`just task a few people to kill totems and its fine`
`17:12.27`	`Matrix110`	`2 warlocks make Hexxer ridiculous:P`
`17:12.30`	`iceheat710`	`how come u guys call him hexxer instead of jindo?`
`17:12.33`	`Skew`	`i've only tried him once, like 5 months ago`
`17:12.34`	`iceheat710`	`hehe`
`17:12.40`	`trh`	`Dayne\|Work: i believe the hard thing is that everyone has to pay attention to kill shadows and kill totems`
`17:12.45`	`trh`	`and not only bash the hexxer himself`
`17:12.49`	`trh`	`the rest is easy`
`17:12.51`	`Dayne\|Work`	`screw killing shadows`
`17:12.53`	`Matrix110`	`trh thats why you need Warlocks if you cant do that:P`
`17:12.54`	`Dayne\|Work`	`kill him`
`17:12.57`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Totems is hard to get people on ^^`
`17:13.07`	`kenlyric\|work`	`the same reason I call him the bloodlord instead of... whatever his name is.`
`17:13.13`	`Skew`	`how about those shamans on alliance, eh?`
`17:13.14`	`pastamancer`	`mandokir`
`17:13.14`	`Matrix110`	`Warlocks just tab dot dot tab dot dot tab dot dot the entire fight`
`17:13.15`	`trh`	`Matrix110: imo its easier without warlocks (at least as long as you don't got paladins)`
`17:13.15`	`Skew`	`:D`
`17:13.17`	`iceheat710`	`mandokir? heh`
`17:13.25`	`trh`	`Matrix110: the imps die so easy on the hexxer`
`17:13.36`	`trh`	`Matrix110: and then they spawn very annoying mobs`
`17:13.42`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I have no idea. Same for the five priests. I don't know their names, except mar'li because I had his eye.`
`17:13.46`	`Matrix110`	`trh i dont mean using imps`
`17:14.00`	`Matrix110`	`that sucked anyway after the nerf of them when they had 1k+ dps they owned though:P`
`17:14.07`	`Matrix110`	`but i mean for Shades`
`17:14.17`	`Adirelle\|work`	`kenlyric: mar'li, jeklik, venoxis, arlokk and tekkal ?`
`17:14.17`	`Matrix110`	`warlocks can dot all the shades others just ignore the curse`
`17:14.17`	`trh`	`Matrix110: oh.. yes.. thats true`
`17:14.26`	`Adirelle\|work`	`had to learn tech to RL on them...`
`17:14.52`	`Elkano`	`oh fuck ^^ http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2115/omgrun2yq2pe9.jpg`
`17:15.04`	`trh`	`Matrix110: but we don't have many warlocks in the guild, so we usually did it without.. but zg is boring after a while anyway.. just as any instance :(`
`17:15.09`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Adirelle\|work: I guess. Their aspect names are much more meaningful though.`
`17:15.11`	`Matrix110`	`Fileplanet owns says Estimated waiting times 25mins it said 22mins like 4hours ago!`
`17:15.16`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Bat boss: surrounded by a bunch of bats. Etc.`
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`17:15.33`	`Matrix110`	`trh ye ZG is just for enchants nowadays but i cba atall to go there anymore boring as hell`
`17:15.35`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Panther boss: Freaking detest it until you get 5 piece trans bonus.`
`17:15.50`	`iceheat710`	`anyone fought kruul yet?`
`17:16.01`	`Matrix110`	`Kruul=old kazzak nothing special`
`17:16.02`	`Dayne`	`im so gonna kill my freaking connection if it doesnt stop flapping on me /sigh`
`17:16.06`	`Barbanus`	`Elkano, HAhahahahahah`
`17:16.06`	`iceheat710`	`oicic`
`17:16.08`	`Barbanus`	`if that you?`
`17:16.09`	`Barbanus`	`is*`
`17:16.13`	`Elkano`	`nope`
`17:16.17`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Matrix: maybe once tbc is out it will be more fun going there and 5-7 man the instance`
`17:16.28`	`trh`	`Matrix110: ya.. a while ago i quitted wow because of that scheme - bc to get what you want in instances is just too much time consuming and no fun after you got the endboss`
`17:16.42`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`i dont think the enchants will be obsolete soon atleast`
`17:16.42`	`Dayne`	`anyway, anyone have any clue why i can't snag oCD and oCB from wowace.com anymore?`
`17:16.55`	`Matrix110`	`nah Blitzed\|Punk why should you enter ZG Outlands instances own more`
`17:17.07`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`i bet many will still`
`17:17.11`	`Matrix110`	`Dayne it got modified by people haste didnt want that`
`17:17.16`	`Matrix110`	`and he wants to dropAce2 support`
`17:17.19`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`dont think u find a replacement for the uber enchants`
`17:17.25`	`kenlyric\|work`	`depends, what kind of enchants are there on head pieces?`
`17:17.27`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`just like that atleast`
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`17:17.40`	`Matrix110`	`you can get it from fuxsake.net Dayne but just Load out of Date addons and it works:P`
`17:17.41`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`the idol enchants`
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`17:17.49`	`Matrix110`	`Idol/Libram`
`17:17.55`	`iceheat710`	`anyone here use bartender3?`
`17:18.01`	`Matrix110`	`iceheat710 alot:P`
`17:18.03`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`+28 AP 1 dogde on legs and head`
`17:18.08`	`iceheat710`	`haha >.> i thought so`
`17:18.09`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`for rogues`
`17:18.13`	`kenlyric\|work`	`wait, he wants to drop Ace from oCD?`
`17:18.21`	`Matrix110`	`yes kenlyric\|work`
`17:18.22`	`Dayne`	`ah, thanks Matrix. And that's not the issue, for some reason last night my version was bitching about Gratuity, went to update, wasnt there, was like wtf`
`17:18.26`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Matrix110: just idol now, no more need for libram`
`17:18.26`	`kenlyric\|work`	`meh.`
`17:18.34`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I got 100 other mods to use then.`
`17:18.37`	`iceheat710`	`anyone see the pet bar not getting the dreamlayout applied to it or w/e?`
`17:18.38`	`Dayne`	`i got it working, but was concerned about future support!`
`17:18.53`	`Promot`	`Hi everyone some french here??`
`17:18.56`	`Barbanus`	`I am really looking forward to the expansion.`
`17:19.06`	`Matrix110`	`Dayne it is supported but it wont be updated on the /files or SVN anymore`
`17:19.12`	`zirah`	`Hi`
`17:19.12`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Barb: who does'nt :p`
`17:19.15`	`Barbanus`	`level up my pally to 70, do some 5 mans again, and then some new raiding zones`
`17:19.33`	`Adirelle\|work`	`promot: if someone answers yes, will you starting speak in french ?`
`17:19.36`	`kenlyric\|work`	`_neuron_: I don't htink cast frames will help with oCB.`
`17:19.38`	`Matrix110`	`atleast the version from Haste there might be someoneelse maintaining it as Haste allowed it to use his Code if hes credited`
`17:19.43`	`day0`	`nice dl speed from wowace.com :p`
`17:19.52`	`Batos`	`Sorry if this is a stupid question, but has anyone got an URL to an updated version of agUF that doesn't take ages to download? :)`
`17:19.56`	`trh`	`apropos french.. i'm still looking for french people to localize vanaskos :)`
`17:19.57`	`Barbanus`	`Blitzed\|Punk, like 8? people quit wow in my guild this week, we have about 60 people`
`17:20.01`	`kenlyric\|work`	`wait, does aguf have a self casting bar too?`
`17:20.02`	`snurre-`	`<- lives in france, but not french`
`17:20.03`	`_neuron_`	`kenlyric\|work, you meaning ocd now? :p`
`17:20.05`	`Dayne`	`that's fine by me. and ag support doesnt do anything for me, im a diehard discord unit frames user ;)`
`17:20.06`	`_neuron_`	`yes it does`
`17:20.07`	`Adirelle\|work`	`trh: what does vanaskos ? :)`
`17:20.10`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Day0: cause the mods are so popular :D`
`17:20.13`	`_neuron_`	`the latest revision has both target castbar and self castbar`
`17:20.15`	`kenlyric\|work`	`holy crap hot!`
`17:20.23`	`kenlyric\|work`	`what about the secondary indicator?`
`17:20.30`	`kenlyric\|work`	`for swimming and I"m sure... something else.`
`17:20.35`	`trh`	`Adirelle\|work: it's a kos list which notifies you if a player on that list is near you (through combat log and stuff)`
`17:20.39`	`_neuron_`	`mirrorbar, dunno`
`17:20.40`	`kenlyric\|work`	`(though that one isn't in the way of my bars)`
`17:20.48`	`_neuron_`	`guessing the default blizzard one is there though ;)`
`17:20.50`	`kenlyric\|work`	`hot damn!`
`17:20.54`	`Adirelle\|work`	`trh: kos list or karma list ?`
`17:20.57`	`_neuron_`	`http://hollowtube.mine.nu/interface/interface.html last screenshot = new castbars`
`17:20.57`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Barbanus: we have 64 left out of 110 i think :p`
`17:21.07`	`kenlyric\|work`	`when the update said casting bar, I just assumed enemy casting bar.`
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`17:21.18`	`Barbanus`	`Blitzed\|Punk, yea, next week will really tell us.`
`17:21.21`	`trh`	`Adirelle\|work: kos - look at the screenshots http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2715 :)`
`17:21.28`	`Matrix110`	`the enemy castbar is Blizzard standard there kenlyric\|work`
`17:21.31`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Barbanus: sure will :)`
`17:21.34`	`Barbanus`	`Blitzed\|Punk We are a small core guild, which is extremely nice for raiding`
`17:21.40`	`Matrix110`	`oh wait nvm`
`17:21.42`	`Matrix110`	`thats HP`
`17:21.42`	`Matrix110`	`rofl`
`17:21.53`	`Batos`	`Sorry if this is a stupid question, but has anyone got an URL to an updated version of agUF? (takes ages to download from wowace.com)`
`17:22.02`	`Barbanus`	`Blitzed\|Punk, so while I am sad to see them go, I'm also glad, because we need to get down to a 25 man raid size`
`17:22.03`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Matrix110: yes, I know.`
`17:22.16`	`Adirelle\|work`	`batos: wowace.com is the main source of updated version...`
`17:22.19`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Barbanus: you will have a good time in TBC i bet then, we have mostly core members left aswell people that have been tehre from the very beginning`
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`17:22.25`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I'm talking about the self casting bar, the one that is currently over my bars and very annoying and was originaly replaced by oCB`
`17:22.29`	`Batos`	`Adirelle\|work, ok`
`17:22.33`	`Barbanus`	`Blitzed\|Punk, were you in the beta?`
`17:22.35`	`Batos`	`Thanks for answering :)`
`17:22.35`	`_neuron_`	`Batos, you can get it from the interface link I just posted, but it's supposed to be in closed beta ;)`
`17:22.37`	`kenlyric\|work`	`but, non wau and now non-ace? it's dead to me.`
`17:22.48`	`_neuron_`	`that does have the latest ag_unitframes from an hour or so ago though`
`17:22.53`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Barbanus: not the EU on but US and Korean :O`
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`17:23.13`	`Jtb`	`hi guys`
`17:23.20`	`Zed-`	```````````
`17:23.32`	`Zed-`	`does anyone having problems with autobar ?`
`17:23.45`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Barbanus: dont ask me how we got into the Korean tho, but we had a serious need for wow ^^`
`17:23.48`	`Jtb`	`any chance to get a server copy for wowace files? I want to mirror it for a few friends ;)`
`17:24.21`	`Barbanus`	`Blitzed\|Punk, haha, what server in the US are you on?`
`17:24.35`	`Llais`	`hey folks, where would I find a list of the svn mirrors?`
`17:24.38`	`_neuron_`	`http://hollowtube.mine.nu/tmp/ by popular request, only got some of the mods I use though`
`17:25.23`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Barbanus: that's the funny part, im not there on the US i did all i could to get into the beta's around but i live in Europe :) Denmark more precisely`
`17:25.42`	`Barbanus`	`Blitzed\|Punk, haha`
`17:25.42`	`Adirelle\|work`	`llais: svn.wowace.com is a frontend for mirrors`
`17:26.06`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Barbanus: i did not make it into the EU beta tho`
`17:26.35`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Blitzed\|Punk: i went in the korean beta too, before joining open EU beta`
`17:26.55`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Barbanus: hehe :p`
`17:27.27`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Adirelle: oh you too ^`
`17:27.57`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Adirelle: so which server you on in the EU now ?`
`17:28.11`	`odt`	`which parameter controls the agUF castbar text area width?`
`17:28.14`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Blitzed\|Punk: Ner'Zhul (PvP frFR)`
`17:28.40`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Adirelle: aah yes i should have guessed from the name :)`
`17:28.57`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Adirelle: not which server but fr :p`
`17:29.03`	`Adirelle\|work`	`;p`
`17:29.14`	`Adirelle\|work`	`-elle suffix ?`
`17:29.21`	`Neebler`	`gah! my combo points aren't showing up in the latest aguf`
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`17:29.45`	`Barbanus`	`Neebler, I have heard like 10 times that it has something to do with the cast bar .. I dont know for sure tho`
`17:29.54`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Adirelle: I guess just noticed that the name seemed French to me atleast ^^ for some reason`
`17:29.55`	`nadas`	`it doesn't`
`17:29.56`	`kenlyric\|work`	`somebody should put that in the channel topic.`
`17:30.15`	`nadas`	`Neebler: ag_UnitClass.lua line 341`
`17:30.18`	`Barbanus`	`people keep saying it .... but I dont have a rogue / druid to see :P`
`17:30.25`	`Adirelle\|work`	`kenlyric\|work: what ? "server are down because of EU patch day ? " :)`
`17:30.28`	`nadas`	`Neebler: change themetable.comboGFX to themetable.ComboGFX`
`17:30.33`	`nadas`	`and it works`
`17:30.47`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Adirelle\|work: no, that there's a bug in aguf not showing combo points :)`
`17:30.49`	`nadas`	`someone miscased it while restructuring`
`17:31.25`	`Barbanus`	`:)`
`17:31.31`	`nadas`	`:)`
`17:31.36`	`Adirelle\|work`	`sometimes i wish I had my own dedidcated server`
`17:31.54`	`\|Kev\|`	`I think everyone does`
`17:31.57`	`Barbanus`	`Adirelle\|work, wow server? or like webserver, etc?`
`17:32.09`	`Adirelle\|work`	`barbanus : an linux box, inline 24/7`
`17:32.15`	`Adirelle\|work`	`s/inline/online/`
`17:32.19`	`Barbanus`	`Adirelle\|work, ahhh, I got one of those :P`
`17:32.25`	`\|Kev\|`	`I have a linux box online 24/7`
`17:32.27`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Adirelle: I played on one of those early "very early" servers that were, if anyone heard of stormcraft`
`17:32.31`	`\|Kev\|`	`but it's on dsl`
`17:32.39`	`kenlyric\|work`	`everyone should have a linux box. They're like good friends that don't do anything fun :)`
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`17:32.49`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Adirelle: that was waay before the beta's tho`
`17:32.52`	`Barbanus`	`Mine is in a datacenter, with 100mb connection, and 1tb of bandwidth a month :P`
`17:32.57`	`Adirelle\|work`	`well i can't afford one, well, in fact my wife would one-shot me if she knew I get one`
`17:33.11`	`\|Kev\|`	`I also have a vps somewhere, but that has so little memory it's hopeless`
`17:33.17`	`kenlyric\|work`	`mine is old work computer.`
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`17:33.23`	`\|Kev\|`	`I do have one I suppose`
`17:33.35`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Adirelle: Your wife is a Fire mage perhaps :p`
`17:34.00`	`\|Kev\|`	`622mbit pipe (only 100 nic though), 1 1/2 gig ram, etc sitting on the uni campus`
`17:34.00`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Blitzed\|Punk : already seen Onyxia ? :P`
`17:34.09`	`\|Kev\|`	`but I tend not to use that for hosty things`
`17:34.24`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Adirelle: aah one of those eeek :D`
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`17:34.41`	`loladatotal`	`anyone have a list of dewdrop options and funcionalities?`
`17:34.49`	`evl`	`lol? :)`
`17:34.51`	`Adirelle\|work`	`well, in fact, i could manage my own server, but the problem is the link...`
`17:34.55`	`evl`	`I can't see any strings in agUF :)`
`17:35.14`	`renchap`	`Adirelle\|work: http://www.kimsufi.com/`
`17:36.09`	`Antiarc`	`loladatotal: Grab a google cache of the Dewdrop doc on the Ace site.`
`17:36.35`	`Adirelle\|work`	`renchap: are you using one of these ?`
`17:36.45`	`loladatotal`	`site is dead`
`17:36.52`	`Deviad`	`Are you getting some addons not workign too?`
`17:36.53`	`Antiarc`	`Which is why I said google cache. :)`
`17:36.59`	`Barbanus`	`I'd mirror some ace stuff if I could get ahold of that zip script :P`
`17:36.59`	`CIA-17`	`03jerry * r24525 10FuBar_TimerFu/FuBar_TimerFu.toc: FuBar_TimerFu: updated TOC to 20003`
`17:37.04`	`Deviad`	`Like fubar_fuxpfu?`
`17:37.16`	`loladatotal`	`ye got it tks`
`17:37.17`	`Blitzed\|Punk`	`Anyways im off need to see if i can get my dayli dosis of bbq'ed cow, if not i'll end on a stick myself... have a nice evening all of you ;)`
`17:37.29`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Barbanus: there are some on the forum no ? er... forums are dead too ? :D`
`17:37.45`	`CIA-17`	`03jerry * r24526 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib.toc: ItemBonusLib: updated TOC to 20003`
`17:38.02`	`Barbanus`	`Adirelle\|work, the latest zip script that is used on wowace.com/files is on the forums?`
`17:38.06`	`CIA-17`	`03jerry * r24527 10lern2count/lern2count.toc: lern2count: updated TOC to 20003`
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`17:38.34`	`CIA-17`	`03jerry * r24528 10Talented/Talented.toc: Talented: updated TOC to 20003`
`17:39.12`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Barbanus: maybe, or maybe not, I must admit I didn't checked it all`
`17:39.25`	`Barbanus`	`Adirelle\|work, blah the forums are down too`
`17:39.26`	`Adirelle\|work`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:39.47`	`Barbanus`	`Adirelle\|work, I'll have to try a google cache :P`
`17:40.03`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Barbanus: i meant wiki->forums links :(`
`17:40.32`	`Jtb`	`hey guy, any chance to become a wowace-files mirror? Got a fast server..`
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`17:41.39`	`Adirelle\|work`	`renchap: I would prefer http://www.dedibox.fr/`
`17:41.50`	`renchap`	`Adirelle\|work: pm ^^`
`17:42.04`	`Adirelle\|work`	`but well... can't afford it either`
`17:42.11`	`Adirelle\|work`	`oh sry`
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`17:43.39`	`Barbanus`	`blah, google cache sucks too :P`
`17:44.29`	`UaU\|Alexo`	`hi`
`17:45.25`	`Adirelle\|work`	`barnanus : notice that the files format isn't too complicated`
`17:46.03`	`Barbanus`	`Adirelle\|work, yea, all I can find is using the /files to update your mods, I want to create a /files on my server as a mirror :P`
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`17:46.47`	`Amadeo`	`Character transfer takes forever :(`
`17:47.19`	`Pkekyo`	`doesn't TopScoreFu and HonorFu work with the new patch?`
`17:47.19`	`Adirelle\|work`	`barbanus : the "hard" part is extracting the externel`
`17:47.27`	`Barbanus`	`Adirelle\|work, there is a script that is run every 20 mins to update those zips from SVN, if I can get a copy of that script, I can make a /files mirror`
`17:47.27`	`Adirelle\|work`	`s/external/externals/`
`17:47.51`	`Adirelle\|work`	`barnanus : not really perl or script skilled ?`
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`17:48.01`	`Barbanus`	`Adirelle\|work, lazy :P`
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`17:48.12`	`Adirelle\|work`	`barbanus : lol`
`17:48.24`	`Amadeo`	`Can some Mac users in here give me a link(s) to the best hardware/news site for them? :)`
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`17:48.39`	`Barbanus`	`I'll ask Kaelten when he pops in next`
`17:49.03`	`Adirelle\|work`	`barbanus : i haven't practiced perl for too long, but i think i could write such script in bash`
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`17:50.59`	`Srosh`	`wow, wowace got pretty popular, huh?`
`17:51.07`	`Barbanus`	`Srosh, yea`
`17:51.57`	`MoonWolf`	`grr i need to update gratuity but all svn's and the files are not responding.`
`17:52.06`	`Srosh`	`blame patch day`
`17:52.18`	`Adirelle\|work`	`i'm wondering if wowaceupdater use a single connection to fetch all file, or if it starts a new one...`
`17:52.28`	`renchap`	`Adirelle\|work: thats http`
`17:52.28`	`Barbanus`	`OMG google, I love you!`
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`17:52.35`	`renchap`	`so one connection by file`
`17:52.43`	`Barbanus`	`Google, found the script that was made :P http://grid.13th-floor.org/test/makemirror.pl.txt`
`17:52.45`	`Adirelle\|work`	`renchap: heard of keepalive ?`
`17:53.13`	`Adirelle\|work`	`one connexion, many requests, on the same server`
`17:53.25`	`renchap`	`i know`
`17:53.33`	`renchap`	`but ftp for example is better for files`
`17:53.40`	`Adirelle\|work`	`if the case you have many transparent mirrors, i could make a huge differences if they get out of sync`
`17:53.52`	`Adirelle\|work`	`s/i could/it could/`
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`17:54.07`	`renchap`	`and even with keepalive thats not a real connected protocol`
`17:54.08`	`Silviu--`	`~seen CIA-17`
`17:54.31`	`purl`	`cia-17 is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 1037 messages. Is idling for 15m 57s, last said: '03jerry * r24528 10Talented/Talented.toc: Talented: updated TOC to 20003'.`
`17:54.33`	`Adirelle\|work`	`renchap : i agree but that's not the point`
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`17:54.55`	`Adirelle\|work`	`renchap ; just that with keepalive you get all files from the same source`
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`17:55.00`	`Fireclaw`	`joohoo`
`17:55.05`	`Fireclaw`	`any working version for 2.0.3?`
`17:55.12`	`Fireclaw`	`im having that cooldown bug`
`17:55.19`	`Fireclaw`	`so thought id try another bar mod ;P`
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`17:55.27`	`Adirelle\|work`	`well... go to go home`
`17:55.29`	`Adirelle\|work`	`cya`
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`17:55.59`	`Fireclaw`	`need a bar mod and/or a fix for the cooldown thing :<`
`17:56.07`	`cynyr`	`mm patch days.. i can't wait to see what this is gonna be like when BC comes out...`
`17:56.23`	`yacoob`	`big balls of fire`
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`17:56.32`	`yacoob`	`plus, I wonder how many days the servers will be down...`
`17:56.34`	`cynyr`	`Fireclaw: what cooldown thing? bartender3 shows mine...`
`17:57.02`	`Fireclaw`	`im getting a script error when i use something that has a cooldown`
`17:57.03`	`kergoth`	`Tuller: hmm, you should do a standalone version of bongos_stats`
`17:57.07`	`Peri`	`offhand, does the latest bartender do bar switching on stance changes/stealth etc?`
`17:57.07`	`Fireclaw`	`even global cooldown`
`17:57.07`	`ssm_`	`A bittorrent tracker for publishing addons may be an idea, that would offload the bandwidth to the downloaders`
`17:57.17`	`Fireclaw`	`ofc im running a buggy old version of trinity`
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`17:57.30`	`Tuller`	`kergoth: ?`
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`17:57.41`	`Emex`	`give me bartender 3, with working Cd plx :)`
`17:57.49`	`Antiarc`	`Kaelten: You around?`
`17:58.04`	`Tuller`	`kergoth: it runs without the actionbar component of bongos, but still needs bongos. You can do /run message(gcinfo()/1024) to get the same memory usage stat as well`
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`17:58.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`ssm_: the files would be too small for it to really be effective`
`17:58.28`	`Klazar\|work`	`Barbanus: thats the adress where the javaupdater uses for its files, 'cept their not current now`
`17:58.51`	`Barbanus`	`Klazar\|work, huh? sorry?`
`17:59.16`	`Klazar\|work`	`Barbanus: http://grid.13th-floor.org/wowace/`
`17:59.18`	`yacoob`	`Tuller, as I currently don't have good chance to check stuff (on gprs link :) - has Bongos got friendly/enemy switching?`
`17:59.22`	`ssm_`	`Arrowmaster: So the BT protocol is more efficient on larger files?`
`17:59.23`	`Antiarc`	`I've got WAU working with a local proof-of-concept that lowers the number of connections WAU uses. It uses a master list file that contains the first six bytes of an MD5 of each addon name, and then the addon's latest revision in hex. This works out to 10 bytes per addon, and is only needed to be pulled once per update, so you have one connection for the master file and one connection per addon updated, rather than two connections per addon updated.`
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`17:59.52`	`Tuller`	`yacoob: no, I really can't think of a nice way to do it`
`17:59.54`	`Barbanus`	`Klazar\|work, yea, the link I gave is the script that wowace.com/files uses to make zips now I believe.`
`18:00.04`	`Barbanus`	`Klazar\|work, or at least a modified version of`
`18:00.15`	`Barbanus`	`with it, i can make a mirror of wowace.com/files`
`18:00.26`	`Klazar\|work`	`nice`
`18:00.35`	`yacoob`	`Tuller, I understand that something that allowed it to work in previous versions is gone from api? :\|`
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`18:00.56`	`pastamancer`	`you won't be able to point WAU at it though. the files script has changed a bit since then`
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`18:01.22`	`Tuller`	`yacoob: well help and harm exist, but you need to actually have a target for them to work properly`
`18:01.30`	`Amadeo`	`that RCA music player/wireless headphones looks really cool`
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`18:02.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`ssm_: yes, the file sizes of most addons is so small that it would only be like 1 piece anyway in a torrent, and all the overhead caused wouldnt be worth it, bt tracker use a lot of cpu power and bandwidth`
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`18:03.10`	`ssm_`	`Arrowmaster: ok, I see.`
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`18:05.07`	`Barbanus`	`:( bunch of the svn mirrors are out of sync`
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`18:05.30`	`Barbanus`	`load sucks lol`
`18:05.33`	`renchap`	`normal`
`18:05.42`	`Chinku`	`hi iskaron ;-)`
`18:05.44`	`dotted`	`and its only a minor patch >.<`
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`18:05.46`	`renchap`	`i cant sync, the main svn server is down`
`18:06.19`	`Iskaron`	`hi chinku :)`
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`18:06.55`	`pastamancer`	`I'm updating my mirror from dev now. Not sure how long it'll take.`
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`18:07.28`	`Deviad_`	`Can anyone run a wowaceupdater mirror?`
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`18:07.48`	`Deviad_`	`SVN has some limitations when you gotta manage it properly`
`18:07.56`	`Barbanus`	`pastamancer, I assume svn1 is the main mirror?`
`18:08.00`	`Worf`	`pastamancer: so - allready experimented with unit frames for pets? <evilgrin>`
`18:08.04`	`Deviad_`	`svn2 runs smooter`
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`18:08.24`	Funkeh`	`anyone using ARKinventory noticing extreme memory spikes hwne opening/closing bags?`
`18:08.25`	`Deviad_`	`smoother*`
`18:08.32`	Funkeh`	`then*`
`18:08.35`	`Barbanus`	`which one is least likely to be out of sync, I guess thats my question :P`
`18:08.44`	`renchap`	`svn1 isnt the main mirror`
`18:08.47`	`Deviad_`	`svn.wowace.com`
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`18:08.52`	`Wilbur`	`Could someone please suggest a good ingame UI Editor? for Windows and UI?`
`18:08.53`	`Barbanus`	`lol`
`18:08.54`	`pastamancer`	`Worf: Grid isn't going to support pets any time soon`
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`18:09.04`	`Wilbur`	`for Ingame Windows**`
`18:09.07`	`renchap`	`thats my mirror, but there is errors due to load on main server`
`18:09.11`	`Barbanus`	`svn.wowace.com isnt a mirror`
`18:09.19`	`renchap`	`svn.wowace.com is a load balancer`
`18:09.29`	`renchap`	`it redirects you to svn1 or svn2`
`18:09.33`	`Barbanus`	`renchap, I had that typed out :P`
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`18:09.58`	`Barbanus`	`renchap, ahh`
`18:10.07`	`Deviad_`	`pastamancer, as most users run wowaceupdater, can you pls use the script that makes users able to use wowaceupdater?`
`18:10.28`	`Deviad_`	`I mean the script that zips the addon folders and make that webpage`
`18:10.31`	`Deviad_`	`makes*`
`18:10.41`	`pastamancer`	`yeah, I'm running the current /files script`
`18:10.47`	`renchap`	`pastamancer: need !`
`18:10.56`	`renchap`	`can you send it to me ?`
`18:11.00`	`Barbanus`	`pastamancer, can you give me a copy of that? :)`
`18:11.03`	`Deviad`	`pastamancer, post the link as you are done`
`18:11.06`	`renchap`	`i will setup a mirror on my server`
`18:11.13`	`Barbanus`	`ditto :P`
`18:11.14`	`Aileen_`	`I got a lot of people in my guild hooked on Grid and now my pet never gets healed anymore :(`
`18:11.26`	`shieldb`	`harass them to set your pet up as a focus target :)`
`18:11.28`	Funkeh`	`good`
`18:11.31`	Funkeh`	`we hate pets`
`18:11.33`	Funkeh`	`hahaha`
`18:11.37`	`Deviad`	`Grid has lots of problems :\`
`18:11.56`	Funkeh`	`works for me ok apart from 1 or 2 errors`
`18:11.56`	`pastamancer`	`I have no idea what you're talking about`
`18:12.15`	`Worf`	Funkeh`: ok, no help for you when you draw aggro :)
`18:12.22`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`18:12.54`	`Deviad`	`Are we gonna have the same problems with burning crusade?`
`18:13.03`	`Deviad`	`Or is burning crusade based on 2.0.3?`
`18:13.11`	`shieldb`	`2.0.3 is the same UI version as TBC`
`18:13.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`i thought beta was at 2.0.4 now`
`18:13.27`	`shieldb`	`mine's still at 2.0.3 as of last night`
`18:13.27`	`Deviad`	`:[ sigh`
`18:13.29`	`Elkano`	`iirc 2.0.3 is newer than the TBC shipped`
`18:13.50`	`Deviad`	`^^ cool`
`18:14.02`	`Worf`	`well - wouldn't be surprised if the shipped version is outdated on release day`
`18:14.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`afaik, the current beta build and the live build have the exact same revision number`
`18:14.04`	`Elkano`	`so keep the patch on disc ^^`
`18:14.05`	`Deviad`	`Can anyone make an ISO of TBC when he gets it and make a torrent?`
`18:14.06`	`Deviad`	`:\`
`18:14.13`	`Gnarfoz`	`it will be, they already said so.`
`18:14.18`	`Deviad`	`I bought only the cd key :D`
`18:14.21`	`Gnarfoz`	`you'll have to install TBC, re-patch to 2.0.3 and then play`
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`18:14.35`	`ilifin`	`which revision of ag_UF works properly in 2.0.3?`
`18:14.36`	`Elkano`	`I know some people using beta client to play on live now :)`
`18:14.38`	`Homer`	`hi`
`18:14.50`	`xlvii`	`ilifin, the latest one.. as long as you're not a rogue or druid :P`
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`18:14.57`	`xlvii`	`ilifin, it doesn't show combat points, lol.`
`18:14.57`	`shieldb`	`yeah according to the version string both beta and live are 2.0.3.6299`
`18:15.00`	`ilifin`	`xlvii - I R ROGUE, ROGUE RAGE!`
`18:15.02`	`Gnarfoz`	`Elkano: so? they already have that step b ehind them`
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`18:15.15`	`ilifin`	`xlvii, I kind of noticed, lol.`
`18:15.17`	`ilifin`	`;<`
`18:15.34`	`Homer`	`need the ace updater plz`
`18:15.45`	`Vanish`	`Hmm. Andreasg not around?`
`18:15.52`	`Gnarfoz`	`http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/63256343.htm ^^`
`18:15.57`	`Worf`	`well - i just tried a short battle in alterac, and from what i can tell the live version feels very beta`
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`18:16.16`	`cncfanatics`	`yo all ! I'm back in business :)`
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`18:16.24`	`shieldb`	`we had a blast last night in naxx with the raidui / targeting issues`
`18:16.27`	`shieldb`	`:(`
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`18:16.35`	`ilifin`	`hahah`
`18:17.10`	`Gnarfoz`	`I still wonder how they actually test this stuff`
`18:17.16`	`Elkano`	`so for me it would be a good idea to update my beta client ^^`
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`18:17.23`	`Gnarfoz`	`most of the time it looks like they don't - at all :D`
`18:17.24`	`evl`	`I'm having a problem where my damage font is really jaggy when running in wide screen resolution, also my overall fontsize is huge!`
`18:17.27`	`ilifin`	`damnit, give me ag_UF with working combopoints :<`
`18:17.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`"As the Burning Crusade expansion was finished prior to the most current patch versions it will be necessary to re-patch to 2.0.3 once the expansion is installed. As some players remove their patches after they have been applied we would like to provide a helpful warning not to delete the �2.0.0-to-2.0.3� patch file as it will be required after the Burning Crusade is installed."`
`18:17.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`wait so is TBC going to install into a different directory?`
`18:17.52`	`Gnarfoz`	`no.`
`18:18.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`it will just downgrade your wow to 2.0.0 again`
`18:18.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`:p`
`18:18.02`	`shieldb`	`what was somewhat amusing was that everyone using the stock blizzard ui was having far more problems then people who were using various addons`
`18:18.05`	`Gnarfoz`	`because the CDs are older`
`18:18.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats kinda stupid`
`18:18.09`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r24529 10DrDamage/ (5 files in 2 dirs):`
`18:18.09`	`CIA-17`	`DrDamage:`
`18:18.09`	`CIA-17`	`-More 2.0.3 coeffcient updates. Using the new API calls Tooltip:GetSpell() and GetManaRegen( "unit" ). Now more accurate damage until oom info from tooltip (regen included).`
`18:18.12`	`Gnarfoz`	`how is that stupid`
`18:18.17`	`Gnarfoz`	`it's a fact of life :P`
`18:18.51`	`Gnarfoz`	`they can't duplicate discs if they don't decide on an arbitrary point of time to push out the 'release' code`
`18:19.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`but they could have made the updater on the discs smarter`
`18:19.23`	`Gnarfoz`	`err`
`18:19.26`	`Gnarfoz`	`how?`
`18:19.33`	`Vanish`	`Ummm... I seriously doubt it Arrow`
`18:19.47`	`Gnarfoz`	`it's impossible - at that time 2.0.3 didn't exist yet`
`18:20.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`its.. uhh... already smart enough to update you after it installs what it has, what more do you want? :P`
`18:20.06`	`Gnarfoz`	`exactly`
`18:20.07`	`Gnarfoz`	`:)`
`18:20.12`	`Gnarfoz`	`it even uses the patch if you already have it`
`18:20.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`you mean instead of downloading it again?`
`18:20.34`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yes`
`18:20.47`	`Gnarfoz`	`that's what the piece you quoted said >_<`
`18:20.50`	`Kanly`	`the moral to the story is simple - keep your 2.0.3 download`
`18:20.55`	`Fireclaw`	`but anyway`
`18:20.56`	`Vanish`	`I wish the forums were online. I need to see what ag said about my request`
`18:21.06`	`Kanly`	`if you lose it, have fun downloading the 159 megs on release day all over again`
`18:21.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`duh it uses bittorrent, it actually does try to download it again but detects that the files already exist and that it has all of them`
`18:21.14`	`ardbeg`	`Quick question, is there any mirror of wowace.com/files with fairly updated addons that is usable? :)`
`18:21.16`	`Gnarfoz`	`so?`
`18:21.44`	`cncfanatics`	`ardbeg, if ckknight may be able to upload it somewhere (on my server, for example)`
`18:21.46`	`Gnarfoz`	`that's a mere technical point; you have the files - you won't need to download them again :)`
`18:21.55`	`ckknight`	`back`
`18:22.01`	`odt`	`would be much better if i could upgrade my account with tbc and when logging on the first time with the old wow client, it would start a download for tbc files`
`18:22.03`	`Vanish`	`Heya, ck!`
`18:22.13`	`odt`	`who needs discs`
`18:22.14`	`Kanly`	`more to the point, the bittorrent client starts, checks to see what pieces youre missing, and if you aint missing any says 'all done!' and moves to the installer`
`18:22.20`	`kergoth`	`Tuller: tried bongos for the first time, very nice :) think i'll stick to bar3, just since i've already got it configured to my liking, but not for any technical reason :)`
`18:22.37`	`cncfanatics`	`ckknight, files are down ? :(`
`18:22.44`	`Tuller`	`kergoth: yeah well I'm revering to classic bongos for keybinding issues :)`
`18:22.46`	`Trancer`	`damnit, that bg screen change is really annoying`
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`18:22.46`	`CIA-17`	`03karlthepagan * r24530 10Grouper/ (GrouperAce.lua GrouperCore.lua):`
`18:22.46`	`CIA-17`	`Grouper:`
`18:22.46`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:22.46`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:23.10`	`ckknight`	`cncfanatics: I detect madness`
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`18:23.38`	`cncfanatics`	`ckknight, if u want I can give u the password to my server where u can upload a copy :p`
`18:23.39`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`odt: marketing and vendor contracts need disks, unfortunately. ><`
`18:23.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`odt: i would say good luck then when you find out its going to take a week to download all of outland`
`18:24.01`	`ckknight`	`cncfanatics: of what?`
`18:24.16`	`cncfanatics`	`the /files/ folder on wowace ? looks like its down to me`
`18:24.17`	`odt`	`Arrowmaster: in this age downloading the whole intarweb is maybe gonna take a week`
`18:24.18`	`Amadeo`	`I'm a big fan of Bongos :)`
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`18:24.24`	`shieldb`	`kergoth, the one thing that was kinda weird for me with bartender was that with MyBindings2 it put the Bar1 bindings under the action bars category, and then bars 2-10 under others or misc (whatever it's called) and all labeled as BT3BarX, where X is the actual bar number -1`
`18:24.27`	`ckknight`	`cncfanatics: talk to Kaelten`
`18:24.32`	`ckknight`	`he handles that stuff`
`18:24.37`	`shieldb`	`not sure if that's a bartender issue or a mybindings2 issue though`
`18:24.40`	`Kanly`	`i can go back to bongos now that oCD supports it!`
`18:24.44`	`KarlThePagan`	`brb`
`18:24.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`odt: your forgetting, the blizzard downloader is slower than a 9800 baud modem`
`18:24.50`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten here ?`
`18:24.55`	`kergoth`	`i dunno, i give up on expecting sane keybindings for addons in general`
`18:25.05`	`Gnarfoz`	`the blizzard downloader is as fast as any bt client for me`
`18:25.17`	`Gnarfoz`	`with correctly configured port forwarding it does it's job just like any other client`
`18:25.18`	`Elkano`	`patch your beta, it's faster ;)`
`18:25.19`	`Tuller`	`statebindings are icky, so I needed to go back to the old system`
`18:25.21`	`shieldb`	`Arrowmaster, just go into wow\cache and load backgrounddownload.torrent into your BT client of choice :)`
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`18:25.27`	`Goeb`	`yeah I get 400-500K/s with the blizzard downloader`
`18:25.29`	`Amadeo`	`I think I actually liked the original Bartender, or perhaps the early BT2 the best of the three`
`18:25.41`	`maul`	`hi guys`
`18:25.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`i have the ports forwarded for the blizzard downloader and its never fast`
`18:25.52`	`Deviad`	`Elkano, do you know any way for patching beta?`
`18:25.58`	`maul`	`I was wondering, is there a way to upgrade the addons with the wowace updater at the moment?`
`18:26.01`	`ckknight`	`wtf, I no longer get Nigerian spam, but I just got one from Burkina Faso`
`18:26.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`or atleast the background downloader is never fast`
`18:26.06`	`Elkano`	`logging in?`
`18:26.06`	`Goeb`	`arrow- somethin's not right`
`18:26.07`	`ckknight`	`what is the world coming to?`
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`18:26.16`	`kergoth`	`i like the capabilities of bar3 that the old bartenders didnt have, like arbitrary # of rows/columns for a bar and stuff`
`18:26.18`	`hanzzon`	`the problem with the blizzard torrent app is that it does not allow you to limit upload speed, so it's easy to run out of it on a ADSL line and then you wont have any traffic left to ACK the downstream traffic so thats why it becomes so slow...`
`18:26.22`	`Kanly`	`its just like any other bittorrent file... if there's alot of folks in the swarm at once but little seeding... yah, it's slow`
`18:26.29`	`arjuna`	`?`
`18:26.33`	`B\|Malag`	`ahh man, gotta love patchdays... 3 days until I get my UI back up and running :(`
`18:26.37`	`odt`	`Arrowmaster: use a normal torrent client`
`18:26.46`	`Kanly`	`hanz - easy way around that, extract the torrent and use your regular client`
`18:26.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`but the background downlaoder is made to go slow`
`18:26.48`	`Deviad`	`Elkano, I downloaded the beta today, but on Blizzard's forum is said that in TBC cd-rom there will be some more contents needed to run the game properly which do not come with the beta`
`18:26.52`	`odt`	`even blizz accepts that since lately they've been providint the torrent files themselves`
`18:26.58`	`shieldb`	`typically I get 10kb/s down with the blizzard downloader and 400-600kb/s down with utorrent`
`18:26.59`	`Amadeo`	`kergoth: I find I can't live without sticky frames in certain addons like that :`
`18:27.01`	`Amadeo`	`:)`
`18:27.16`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`18:27.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah i get the exact same as shieldb, but i dont use utorrent`
`18:27.28`	`Amadeo`	`My mouse likes to skip pixels, and I'm too lazy to edit stuff`
`18:27.32`	`kergoth`	`thats true, not having sticky sucks. i ended up going into the savedvars and setting the locations directly`
`18:27.35`	`kergoth`	`heh :)`
`18:27.45`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`18:27.48`	`Barbanus`	`lol`
`18:27.56`	`Barbanus`	`Yea, I loved sticky`
`18:28.01`	`Amadeo`	`What's with that anyway? I wish my mouse was accurate`
`18:28.02`	`maul`	`I was wondering, is there a way to upgrade the addons with the wowace updater at the moment?`
`18:28.07`	`Elkano`	`Deviad, 'not come with beta' or 'not come with live'?`
`18:28.07`	`Amadeo`	`It randomly decides to skip pixels`
`18:28.10`	`Amadeo`	`I can never move it pixel by pixel`
`18:28.16`	`kergoth`	`tried icehud for the first time in a long time, quite nice.. i like the round style.. hated the original look.. /me finally dropped metahud`
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`18:28.40`	`Vanish`	`maul: if you can't access www.wowace.com/files/, then neither can WAU`
`18:28.41`	`deltron`	`kergoth: were you in BWL last friday?`
`18:28.52`	`Deviad`	`Elkano, beta misses some files that live needs to run`
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`18:28.58`	`maul`	`ok, thanks:)`
`18:29.03`	`Amadeo`	`I agree, icehud rocks`
`18:29.13`	`Deviad`	`Elkano, that's what they wrote today on a thread in Blizzard's forum.`
`18:29.14`	`Amadeo`	`my favorite HUD mod`
`18:29.20`	`Amadeo`	`even if I don't use them :P`
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`18:29.26`	`Elkano`	`Deviad, I know people playing on live with the beta client... hmmm`
`18:29.28`	`Deviad`	`It was a blue post too so no chance of missunderstanding`
`18:29.38`	`Vanish`	`I can't stand HUDs. Dunno why. Thee just seem... in the way`
`18:29.54`	`Amadeo`	`I just can't get used to the weird layouts`
`18:30.04`	`Amadeo`	`with target/self bars all mixed together`
`18:30.06`	`Deviad`	`Elkano, I'm using the term of beta for whatever people is playing now until the roll out on the shelfs`
`18:30.08`	`Deviad`	`shelves*`
`18:30.15`	`shieldb`	`I liked icehud a lot, but I really can't get around having the casting bar as a different bar rather then highlighting the border on the manabar like dhud does`
`18:30.20`	`Deviad`	`Elkano, live for me is what will be on the shelves on the 16th`
`18:30.28`	`Jens`	`Isn't beta client == normal client by now?`
`18:30.29`	`Deviad`	`Are we using the terms live and beta for the same purposes?`
`18:30.35`	`shieldb`	`Vanish, HUDs are a lot more useful if you hide/ignore your self/target frames`
`18:30.38`	`kergoth`	`shieldb: yeah, thatd kinda bugged me too`
`18:30.44`	`B\|Malag`	`anyone got a fubared trinity-button? last button left on my minimap... need to kill that off :)`
`18:31.03`	`kergoth`	`i think i might ditch the hud in favor of positioning aguf frames just below the center of the screen.. if aguf's combo point display is obvious enough, anyway`
`18:31.08`	`Amadeo`	`What happens if you copy your TBC beta data to your WoW directory for Live servers? Can you zone into TBC areas? :P`
`18:31.08`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`18:31.12`	`Mikma`	`B\|Malag: no`
`18:31.27`	`Vanish`	`shieldb: I did that. When in mass PvP though, the HUD is a hinderance more than an asset to me. :shrug:`
`18:31.35`	`Deviad`	`Amadeo, I've heard of some people who managed that`
`18:31.35`	`shieldb`	`kergoth: back when the wowace forums were up I noticed a couple other people posted that as well, but it sounds like the guy doing icehud specifically doesn't like that style, so it won't happen in the same way`
`18:31.41`	`kergoth`	`aw`
`18:31.43`	`shieldb`	`though I really dig the energy pulse thing on icehud`
`18:31.47`	`Amadeo`	`Deviad: I'd be too afraid of getting banned :P`
`18:31.55`	`Deviad`	`I wish they wrote something on some forums`
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`18:32.01`	`shieldb`	`Vanish, yeah HUDs are great for some people but not others, it's just a style choice`
`18:32.07`	`B\|Malag`	`aw poo...`
`18:32.08`	`kergoth`	`yeah me too, that pulse is cool, almost made me drop the energy ticker i wrote from my addon set :)`
`18:32.10`	`Vanish`	`shieldb: Yeah`
`18:32.24`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: Got a new vBagnon on some non-wow-site location?`
`18:32.36`	`shieldb`	`kergoth, the suggestion was to move the castbar directly behind the mana bar, but it's just not the same`
`18:32.40`	`Amadeo`	`kergoth: Don't stop making kEnergy, I need something for when I make my Rogue!`
`18:32.40`	`Deviad`	`I wish that the thing of some extra contents on the cd-rom which is needed to run the game is just something they say to make you buy the cd-rom instead of getting e-mailed the cdkey`
`18:32.44`	`Kanly`	`about the only thing on the CD that we don't have live would be the graphic objects for the new zones`
`18:32.47`	`Tuller`	`vhaarr: no`
`18:32.49`	`Deviad`	`which are*`
`18:32.52`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: bah`
`18:32.54`	`Tuller`	`vhaarr: 12/14 should work properly`
`18:33.15`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: ah, hm, okay.`
`18:33.17`	`Kanly`	`so the beta folks really should have everything they need to get rolling unless there's some art they're missing`
`18:33.29`	`kergoth`	`man, i <3 Talented so much`
`18:33.38`	`kergoth`	`being able to save builds is so handy`
`18:33.40`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r24531 10Fizzle/Fizzle.toc:`
`18:33.40`	`CIA-17`	`Fizzle:`
`18:33.40`	`CIA-17`	`- TOC update.`
`18:33.46`	`Vanish`	`kergoth: me too! It's freaking AWESOME`
`18:33.47`	`kergoth`	`especially with my crappy memory`
`18:33.47`	`Amadeo`	`who's addon is it?`
`18:33.49`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`18:33.57`	`cncfanatics`	`omg, I got no WoW at all installed any more -.-`
`18:33.58`	`Deviad`	`Kanly, in that case shouldn't a check be enough to make blizzard downloader downloading what misses?`
`18:34.04`	`cncfanatics`	`this is gonna take a while, I better get dl'ing`
`18:34.20`	`cncfanatics`	`can anyone link me a mirror to the full 2.0.0 patch and 2.0.3 ?`
`18:34.27`	`Deviad`	`cncfanatics, american or eu?`
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`18:34.32`	`Kanly`	`nope, because their patch files are pre-compiled mpq's`
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`18:34.39`	`Kanly`	`not stuff that compiles just for what you need`
`18:34.49`	`cncfanatics`	`EU Deviad`
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`18:34.56`	`Deviad`	`cncfanatics, boomtown.net`
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`18:35.29`	`cncfanatics`	`tnx Deviad :)`
`18:35.29`	`kergoth`	`hmm, i need to think of a new addon to write`
`18:35.39`	`Deviad`	`np`
`18:35.57`	`Kanly`	`personally it's a non-issue... just keep the 2.0.3 files handly, install the cd, re-enter the game, let it run the 2.0.3 patch, and then get busy watching your naked blood elf female gyrate for the first 15 minutes`
`18:36.01`	`Amadeo`	`kergoth: I need something that takes the Suck out of my Warrior`
`18:36.01`	`Deviad`	`I'm still thinking of some methods for avoiding to wait until someone puts TBC's iso on-line`
`18:36.10`	`cncfanatics`	`kergoth, u can help with other addons ? :p`
`18:36.13`	`Emex`	`Can anybody pls send me bardender3, the cd workign update?`
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`18:36.26`	`Elkano`	`well, for me, beta is the TBC beta client, that has the mpq for the expansion... the question is wether that mpq file is complete`
`18:36.36`	`Kanly`	`yah`
`18:36.40`	`kergoth`	`cncfanatics: hehe, thats what i usually do, i'm bored of that :P i've hardly released any addons at all`
`18:36.48`	`Kanly`	`and is all content currently available in beta?`
`18:36.54`	`cncfanatics`	`kergoth, help with mine xD`
`18:36.55`	`Vinnikid`	`hello`
`18:36.57`	`Kanly`	`like are there any zones still closed?`
`18:37.05`	`Feldia`	`kergoth: fix the aura system in ag_uf :(`
`18:37.12`	`kergoth`	`i wrote most of aceoo, and released kenergy and a couple other small ones, lootalert/msbtloot and that ocb lag display thingy, but thats about it`
`18:37.19`	`Vanish`	`What's wrong with the Aura system in ag_UF?`
`18:37.33`	`Feldia`	`needs seperation of buffs / debuffs`
`18:37.35`	`Feldia`	`individual frames`
`18:37.38`	`kergoth`	`i'm loving the branch version of buffalo currently, it can display the target's buffs :D`
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`18:37.52`	`kergoth`	`must more obvious than the unitframe or hud buff display imo, just needs some enhancements`
`18:37.56`	`kergoth`	`s/must/much/`
`18:38.00`	`kergoth`	`~fishslap purl`
`18:38.01`	`purl`	`ACTION slaps purl up side the head with a wet fish.`
`18:38.05`	`Vanish`	`Hmm.. Does buffalo work better now? I tried it way back when and.... well it sucked.`
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`18:38.21`	`haste`	`kergoth: picture?`
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`18:39.01`	`NeoTron`	`:se noai~fishslap kergoth`
`18:39.01`	`NeoTron`	`a:se ai`
`18:39.05`	`NeoTron`	`gah`
`18:39.11`	`NeoTron`	`~fishslap kergoth`
`18:39.13`	`purl`	`ACTION slaps kergoth up side the head with a wet fish.`
`18:39.14`	`Vinnikid`	`do you know where I can find the documentation for AceComm-2.0?`
`18:39.42`	`Nickenyfiken`	`can everyone stop accessing wowace so i can update :-P`
`18:40.04`	`cynyr`	`lol`
`18:40.20`	`Deviad`	`Is any mirror up?`
`18:40.45`	`Elkano`	`well, next week md5 will tell us ;)`
`18:40.47`	`boone_`	`started to update faster in the past few minutes it seems`
`18:40.51`	`KarlThePagan`	`at least I can commit... yay for that`
`18:41.06`	`Amadeo`	`what the hell, I just got a random DCC chat request`
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`18:41.15`	`Nickenyfiken`	`DONT COMMIT! Then i have to update again :-P`
`18:41.23`	`bender`	`hmm all my chat windows uses the same tab so i can only access chat 1. anyway to at least destroy my chat 2-3 from chat 1?`
`18:42.10`	`Deviad`	`http://www.blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/108440857.htm`
`18:42.41`	`Deviad`	`I'd like to know what the new contents are and if someone can manage to put them on-line so everyone can just get the cdkey ^^`
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`18:42.59`	`kergoth`	`NeoTron: looong time no see man`
`18:43.05`	`kergoth`	`how ya been?`
`18:43.22`	`Kanly`	`all that says is that the cd contains stuff not in their recent patches, which would be the live patches, which pretty much just means art. so the beta folks will be fine`
`18:43.39`	`Kanly`	`as for what the new contents are... you would like to see outland when you zone into it, wouldnt you? hehe`
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`18:44.02`	`Chinku`	`kagaro, are you aware of someone already doing translations for babble-fish/-herbs for deDE? additionally, what format would you prefer for those files, utf-8?`
`18:44.11`	`shieldb`	`Deviad, there's a filesize difference of 2.2gb between beta and live, so that's a little tough for just tossing up on a server somewhere :P`
`18:44.26`	`shieldb`	`plus the additional complication of it probably wouldn't work to just copy and paste`
`18:44.27`	`NeoTron`	`kergoth: just fine.. :)`
`18:44.57`	`kergoth`	`NeoTron: still going game ports, or moved on to other stuff?`
`18:45.08`	`Deviad`	`mmmmm so I still someone to grab an ISO from :\`
`18:45.11`	`Deviad`	`cool`
`18:45.21`	`NeoTron`	`nah, not so much. other than halfheartedly porting my unfinished tetris-clone to WoW..`
`18:45.23`	`renchap`	`svnsync: Revision being currently copied (24486), last merged revision (24485), and destination HEAD (24487) are inconsistent; have you committed to the destination without using svnsync?`
`18:45.31`	`renchap`	`need a svn guru ^^`
`18:45.43`	`kergoth`	`me, neo, treke, and twiun, its a veritable zaurus reunion up in here`
`18:45.43`	`renchap`	`(thats the error i have on svn1)`
`18:45.49`	`kergoth`	`heh, cool`
`18:45.59`	`kergoth`	`can always use more in wow games while fishing :)`
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`18:46.14`	`Kanly`	`i vote for tetris`
`18:46.27`	`kergoth`	`i still wnat to see tetrinet`
`18:46.44`	`Kanly`	`or maybe a doctor mario game using wow icons instead`
`18:46.45`	`shieldb`	`I really want to find some time to get the oregon trail working in wow :P`
`18:47.01`	`KarlThePagan`	`Nickenyfiken, you shouldn't be a grouper user unless you're testing`
`18:47.03`	`Forsight`	`Kaelten are you there?:)`
`18:47.18`	`Amadeo`	`My router is a Buffalo :(`
`18:47.20`	`KarlThePagan`	`I should make it remind the user every 2 minutes that it's alpha software ;)`
`18:47.21`	`Kanly`	`i know, someone put nethack into wow!`
`18:47.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i would kill for nethack in wow.`
`18:47.39`	`Nickenyfiken`	`KarlThePagan: hehe yeah well i was just kidding :-)`
`18:47.48`	`Amadeo`	`ShowEQ`
`18:47.49`	`kagaro`	`Chinku: nope didn't know: utf-8 would be good`
`18:47.50`	`Nickenyfiken`	`well if its in trunk i consider it beta atleast`
`18:47.55`	`KarlThePagan`	`and use the addon channel to make it multi-user Kanly`
`18:48.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`i would kill for a better nethack gui`
`18:48.09`	`Kanly`	`yes!`
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`18:48.13`	`KarlThePagan`	`anagband?`
`18:48.17`	`kagaro`	`Chinku: or bette ryet , I know of noone doing any for them`
`18:48.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`oh god.. "sorry guys, no raid tonight, instead we're going to play nethack!"`
`18:48.30`	`Chinku`	`kagaro: will start with b-fish, then, and change the current format from 8bit to utf-8, ok?`
`18:48.31`	`Kanly`	`nethack would kill raids faster than texas hold'em`
`18:48.32`	`Kaelten`	`I'm trying to pretend I'm not :P`
`18:48.32`	`NeoTron`	`http://eongames.com/tmp/gravblox.wmv pretty old version.. haven't done much with it recently though.`
`18:48.36`	`Arrowmaster`	`but then again that would probably cause a relapse of my nethack addiction and take time away from my wow addiction`
`18:48.42`	`Forsight`	`is anyone else noticing with mostly all bar mods, that as a rogue you only get one bar:S? if i stealth button 1 is Sap, unstealthed its Sinister Strike.. however in both stances it still casts SAP`
`18:48.45`	`kagaro`	`chinku: ok`
`18:48.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I still have three variants of angband installed on my computer. >.>`
`18:48.55`	`renchap`	`Kaelten: spotted ^^`
`18:48.56`	`Kanly`	`kinda like using heroin to get off the morphine, huh?`
`18:49.17`	`Chinku`	`kagaro: uh, hopefully not breaking the koKR locals by doing so...`
`18:49.23`	`shieldb`	`Forsight, haven't run into that on my rogue, but I don't have bar changes based on whether I'm stealthed or not`
`18:49.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`i have falcons eye and vultures eye installed`
`18:49.35`	`Barbanus`	`kergoth, I also want to see tetrinet`
`18:49.36`	`kergoth`	`whats the shadowform buff, just "Shadowform"?`
`18:49.39`	`Forsight`	`shieldb can u pm u?:P`
`18:49.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Forsight: no, i havn't seen that problem :\`
`18:49.45`	`Forsight`	`yes kergoth`
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`18:49.51`	`Forsight`	`i pm u`
`18:49.57`	`Kanly`	`actually lets see how old school folks here are - someone code Legend of the Red Dragon for wow ;)`
`18:49.57`	`shieldb`	`sure`
`18:50.06`	`shieldb`	`as long as I won't get teh hiv`
`18:50.06`	`kergoth`	`Lord! hell yes`
`18:50.17`	`shieldb`	`though freenode will block you from PMing people if you aren't a registered user`
`18:50.17`	`kergoth`	`i remember hitting on that waitress in that game, whatsherface`
`18:50.27`	`kergoth`	`door games ftw`
`18:50.27`	`Kanly`	`ah, we have some former bbs'ers!`
`18:50.29`	`Kanly`	`violet!`
`18:50.33`	`kergoth`	`thats it :)`
`18:50.44`	`odt`	`someone make an secure aced version of texas holdem for wow imho`
`18:50.46`	`kergoth`	`i wonder if there are any telnet bbs's with lord running atm`
`18:51.02`	`Barbanus`	`odt, haha "secure" hahahahaha`
`18:51.07`	`Barbanus`	`good luck on that :P`
`18:51.20`	`Kanly`	`some folks did a php translation of LORD called Legend of the Green Dragon`
`18:51.28`	`ravagernl`	`omg http://www.clanok.com/darktide/challenge1.jpg looks really nice`
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`18:51.49`	`odt`	`Barbanus: security by obscrurity of the code would be a good start already :)`
`18:51.52`	`haste`	`There is a roguelike game for WoW already actually`
`18:51.54`	`kergoth`	`i love it when someone else does the things i had on my todo list`
`18:52.04`	`haste`	`I'm not sure if it's dead or not now tho'`
`18:52.05`	`odt`	`s/obscrurity/obscurity/`
`18:52.05`	`Forsight`	`Kaelten mind if i pm u with few questions bout site?;p`
`18:52.25`	`Mikma`	`~framexml`
`18:52.35`	`purl`	`get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip`
`18:52.47`	`Kaelten`	`Forsight: lol you can, everone else is`
`18:52.49`	`Chinku`	`kagaro, you got "Oil Covered Fish" twice in there, I will comment out one of them.`
`18:52.55`	`Forsight`	`:)`
`18:53.00`	`kagaro`	`my bad`
`18:53.10`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`kergoth, http://lotgd.net/`
`18:53.29`	`Barbanus`	`Kaelten, would you send me the zip script so I can setup a /files mirror? :)`
`18:53.32`	`kagaro`	`Chinku: cut and paste error`
`18:53.34`	`cncfanatics`	`back, yo all :)`
`18:54.00`	`Barbanus`	`hey cncfanatics`
`18:54.46`	`kergoth`	`EvilGrin\|Win: nice`
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`18:59.00`	`cncfanatics`	`kergoth, you wrote aceOO ? :o, very good work lol, I love that lib :p`
`18:59.21`	`evl`	`Is there any reason why the standard FuBar dropdown menu options always come up twice?`
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`19:01.25`	`mrgamer`	`omagod! teh repository is down! there is any mirror ? :)`
`19:01.48`	`kergoth`	`cncfanatics: most of it, yep. wrote it outside of wow as a generally useful object model. ckk made some enhancements from there, adding some convenience methods (the handy versions of the metamethods, for example) and the Interface support`
`19:02.14`	`kergoth`	`thank god for excedrin tension headache. work would suck without it`
`19:02.21`	`Matrix110`	`BAH anyone found a option to disable that fade in crap?`
`19:02.48`	`Barbanus`	`the one where you load the game?`
`19:02.51`	`Matrix110`	`ye`
`19:03.07`	`Barbanus`	`and sit there for 5 secs looking at a fucking picture`
`19:03.12`	`Barbanus`	`Yea, no, I wish`
`19:03.24`	`cncfanatics`	`kergoth: my entire addon is OO based thanks to aceoo :)`
`19:03.42`	`shieldb`	`I enjoyed the slow fade in on the burning crusade loginscreen (it's kinda pretty) like twice`
`19:03.46`	`shieldb`	`after that it just gets annoying`
`19:04.06`	`Matrix110`	`i thought my game is fucked after i started the game first:P`
`19:04.11`	`Barbanus`	`I dont like sitting there waiting for it to show up so I can put in my password`
`19:04.16`	`Barbanus`	`Me too Matrix110, lol`
`19:04.30`	`Deviad`	`Has anyone been able to do work a wowace files' mirror?`
`19:04.44`	`*** join/#wowace maxg (i=max@disgu.st)`
`19:05.00`	`Matrix110`	`hmmmrmmrmmm`
`19:05.09`	`Matrix110`	`Icons fucked for me now weird`
`19:05.15`	`ravagernl`	wheres andrea aka ag`_? I have a proposal for a layout he kight like: http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showUI.pl?msgnum=991
`19:05.28`	`Deviad`	`http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=burning+crusade`
`19:05.34`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten, Kaelten-Laptop, ping`
`19:05.37`	`KarlThePagan`	`heh`
`19:05.40`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`?`
`19:05.45`	`Deviad`	`Can burning crusade iso really be 7 GB?`
`19:05.54`	`Matrix110`	`no`
`19:05.57`	`Deviad`	`Can the closed beta have these extra contents?`
`19:06.25`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop is there any wowace files mirror up ? if not you could get the password to mine to put one online if u want`
`19:06.41`	`kagaro`	`anyone know of a mod that treats shadowform like a stance?`
`19:06.49`	`nevcairiel`	`hey did anyone figure out howto get rid of the "pvp-dong" while in a queue ?`
`19:06.57`	`maxg`	`Kaelten-Laptop: i just emailed you, but i'm idling here if you'd like to discuss`
`19:06.57`	`cncfanatics`	`kagaro, the UI does that by default`
`19:07.05`	`kergoth`	`cncfanatics: glad to hear it, was always hoping people would use it to write their addons in an oo fashion, not just using it for the library objects alone :)`
`19:07.35`	`kagaro`	`cncfanatics: yeah but doesnt do bar changing`
`19:07.58`	`cncfanatics`	`you can set that up kagaro, or use FlexBar when its out , it'll do it for you`
`19:08.02`	`Kanly`	`trinity treats it like a stance atm`
`19:08.28`	`Kanly`	`which was pretty damned annoying because i didnt WANT it to`
`19:08.45`	`cncfanatics`	`lol Kanly :p`
`19:08.51`	`kagaro`	`trinity isnt working right now i thought`
`19:09.05`	`Kanly`	`uhm, worked ok for me last night`
`19:09.09`	`Barbanus`	`cncfanatics, I dont know of any mirrors, but I'm willing to set one up on my dedicated box`
`19:09.27`	`cncfanatics`	`Barbanus, thats what i'm proposing but on my own server :p`
`19:09.33`	`kergoth`	`jesus, http://www.boingboing.net/2007/01/10/spokecom_is_selling_.html is fucked up`
`19:09.37`	`cncfanatics`	`but Kaelten seems to be away again`
`19:09.37`	`Kanly`	`the only thing that gave me any trouble last night was ocd bitching about gratuity, but that was easy to fix`
`19:09.47`	`Barbanus`	`cncfanatics, yea, hes a busy man today`
`19:09.57`	`cncfanatics`	`understandable :p`
`19:10.24`	`evl`	`How can I change the default strings in Blizzards addons?`
`19:10.28`	`Barbanus`	`cncfanatics, I'm pretty sure this is an old version of the zip script, but I'm not sure how much is different. http://grid.13th-floor.org/test/makemirror.pl.txt`
`19:10.32`	`cncfanatics`	`either way, is there anyone around that is good at making UI's, a config UI mainly`
`19:10.40`	`[dRaCo]`	`Is Click2Cast supposed to work with Blizz' default unit frames?`
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`19:10.42`	`Barbanus`	`cncfanatics, yea, completely understandable`
`19:10.47`	`cncfanatics`	`Barbanus, ain't the SVN down too ?`
`19:10.57`	`cncfanatics`	`and either way, I only got FTP to my server, no perl :(`
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`19:11.10`	`vhaarr`	`[dRaCo]: yes`
`19:11.11`	`Barbanus`	`svn is working for me`
`19:11.17`	`cncfanatics`	`:o`
`19:11.19`	`cncfanatics`	`i'll try it then`
`19:11.21`	`djspark`	`what's the SF link to the aceupdate program?`
`19:11.23`	`maxg`	`i can set up a gigabit mirror for the next couple days`
`19:11.38`	`Barbanus`	`~wowaceupdater`
`19:11.39`	`purl`	`extra, extra, read all about it, wowaceupdater is http://sourceforge.net/projects/wowaceupdater`
`19:11.39`	`[dRaCo]`	`cause it didn't some days ago :(`
`19:12.05`	`djspark`	`Thanks Barb`
`19:12.10`	`Barbanus`	`no prob.`
`19:12.37`	`*** join/#wowace berdan (i=d@y.campus.luth.se)`
`19:12.52`	`Barbanus`	`So I found this mod called BGTracker, is saves your battleground scorecards, so you can go look at them later`
`19:12.57`	`Barbanus`	`But its buggy as hell`
`19:13.01`	`Barbanus`	`I think I'm gonna recode it`
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`19:13.18`	`cncfanatics`	`so, anyone good at making UIs ? :)`
`19:13.34`	`abyssichate`	`Autobar's broken with 2.0.3, right?`
`19:14.09`	`TheKarn`	`~seen sylvanaar`
`19:14.26`	`purl`	`sylvanaar is currently on #wowi-lounge (17h 53m 2s) #wowace (17h 53m 2s) #wowwiki (17h 53m 2s). Has said a total of 87 messages. Is idling for 3h 13m 38s, last said: 'exclusively for trojans and keyloggers'.`
`19:14.26`	`Forsight`	`mine works fine abyssichate`
`19:14.53`	`abyssichate`	`Did you manage to update in the last 24 hours?`
`19:14.54`	`Saroz`	`wow, the raid bug is seriously stupid`
`19:14.58`	`Forsight`	`nopeee;p`
`19:15.04`	`abyssichate`	`weird then`
`19:15.05`	`KarlThePagan`	`lol Saroz yup`
`19:15.05`	`Barbanus`	`Saroz, yes, yes it is :(`
`19:15.07`	`TheKarn`	`Saroz, which bug?`
`19:15.11`	`Saroz`	`cant kick people raid`
`19:15.11`	`cncfanatics`	`whats up with this raid bug ? hearing about it but can't run wow atm`
`19:15.12`	`Forsight`	`raid bug?`
`19:15.13`	`Saroz`	`kicks the wrong person`
`19:15.13`	`Barbanus`	`Saroz, demote someone in your raid`
`19:15.15`	`Saroz`	`stupid`
`19:15.19`	`Forsight`	`lolol`
`19:15.21`	`Barbanus`	`it will kick them`
`19:15.26`	`Forsight`	`is that with mods?`
`19:15.29`	`Forsight`	`or default blizzard`
`19:15.32`	`Barbanus`	`it happens with default`
`19:15.35`	`Forsight`	`haha`
`19:15.37`	`Barbanus`	`everything deleted`
`19:15.37`	`Saroz`	`nope Barbanus`
`19:15.40`	`Saroz`	`it's blizz`
`19:15.47`	`Saroz`	`slouken fucked up`
`19:15.54`	`Barbanus`	`yep, lol`
`19:15.55`	`djspark`	`yeah, yesterday with default bliz ui I typed /kick player1 and it kicked me from the raid (player1 being a person in our raid)`
`19:16.35`	`Adirelle`	`dunno what's slower, WAU or SVN...`
`19:16.37`	`Saroz`	`Slouken disapointes me`
`19:16.53`	`Saroz`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63887014&pageNo=1&sid=1#0`
`19:16.54`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone used amazon before ? I bought BC there and wondering when it will arie`
`19:17.08`	`Phroon`	`Does WowAceUpdater just use SVN to update Ace mods, or does it download the zip files?`
`19:17.11`	`cncfanatics`	`s/arie/arive/`
`19:17.12`	`renchap`	`svn1 is buggued, use svn2`
`19:17.15`	`shieldb`	`cncfanatics, if you preordered it you probably won't know until you get a tracking number :)`
`19:17.21`	`Forsight`	`well it doesnt ship till after the 16th cncfanatics`
`19:17.24`	`Adirelle`	`Phroon: zip files`
`19:17.40`	`Jens`	`Someone said that someone got into Outlands with TBC client in live, or something...`
`19:17.43`	`Jens`	`Can't make it work.`
`19:17.43`	`cncfanatics`	`oh shit, will get it on the 20th or something then`
`19:17.53`	`Barbanus`	`namee - yes, it has two 'e' on the end. The last letter of the person's name has to be repeated. I don't know why, but it works.`
`19:17.54`	`Barbanus`	`Hahahaahaha`
`19:17.57`	`Barbanus`	`thats awesome`
`19:18.05`	`Kanly`	`this is why i pre-ordered from my local gamestop`
`19:18.10`	`KarlThePagan`	`oh lol OFF BY ONE LOL`
`19:18.11`	`*** join/#wowace sica_ (i=sica@freya.megami.de)`
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`19:18.14`	`Kanly`	`theyre opening at midnigh for the release`
`19:18.15`	`cncfanatics`	`Jens, it may be possible by using the .wtf file containing server lists`
`19:18.16`	`Saroz`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:18.18`	`Saroz`	`""`
`19:18.19`	`cncfanatics`	`but it'd probably get u banned`
`19:18.41`	`Jens`	`What server lists?`
`19:19.01`	`*** join/#wowace danzor (n=danzor@82-36-83-194.cable.ubr03.harb.blueyonder.co.uk)`
`19:19.02`	`*** part/#wowace Tornal (n=Chris@dsl-217-155-192-141.zen.co.uk)`
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`19:19.20`	`kovi`	`open realmlist.wtf and delete the 'beta.'`
`19:19.25`	`renchap`	`~seen rabbit`
`19:19.33`	`purl`	`rabbit <n=rabbit@net.w0w0w.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 504d 19h 49m 31s ago, saying: '+in'.`
`19:19.33`	`kovi`	`i highly doubt you can get into outland though`
`19:19.34`	`kovi`	`-_-`
`19:19.36`	`odt`	`anyone know the name of the addon that allowed you to align stuff on your screen by pixel`
`19:19.52`	`renchap`	`hmmm, who is rabbit here ? ^^`
`19:20.01`	`rjw3`	`Hey are any of the prat folks here? I found a bug in Prat that kills ClassChannels that I haven't seen fixed yet.`
`19:20.10`	`Elkano`	`~seen vhaarr`
`19:20.12`	`purl`	`vhaarr is currently on #wowace (8h 9m 34s). Has said a total of 55 messages. Is idling for 9m 2s, last said: '[dRaCo]: yes'.`
`19:20.30`	`renchap`	`thx Elkano`
`19:20.38`	`Forsight`	`odt Discord Frame Manager does it`
`19:20.38`	`Jens`	`<kovi> open realmlist.wtf and delete the 'beta.' <-- Already tried that.`
`19:20.45`	`kovi`	`worked for me`
`19:20.47`	`kovi`	`;)`
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`19:21.03`	`odt`	`sure there was something else, not using that wretched name`
`19:21.11`	`Forsight`	`MoveAnything?`
`19:21.12`	`Forsight`	`lol`
`19:21.12`	`ravagernl`	`odt: the addon is named align`
`19:21.13`	`Forsight`	`umm`
`19:21.18`	`Forsight`	`aha!`
`19:21.19`	`odt`	`ravagernl: yeah`
`19:21.22`	`Forsight`	`:p`
`19:21.33`	`ravagernl`	`its a blessing`
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`19:22.48`	`ssm_`	`Cute`
`19:23.10`	`Dhraga`	`Evening all`
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`19:23.42`	`Dhraga`	`I pressume that wowace have taken a severe overloadhit ?`
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`19:23.44`	`shieldb`	`Elkano, does the new version of ebb track weapon buffs differently at all? I know previously I ended up going into the source and changing buffCount:Show() to :Hide() because it seemed redundant to have a buff listed as (98) Instant Poison VI x98 (where the (98) sat over the icon)`
`19:23.59`	`Antiarc`	`Yes, Dhraga`
`19:24.24`	`Dhraga`	`Is it down completely or just overloaded ?`
`19:24.41`	`Antiarc`	`Just overloaded`
`19:24.43`	`dtown123`	`it's overloaded sir.`
`19:24.46`	`Dhraga`	`okies`
`19:24.48`	`Dhraga`	`thanks`
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`19:25.07`	`pastamancer`	`nearly 2k simultaneous connections`
`19:25.10`	`Barbanus`	`its getting hammered hard`
`19:25.32`	`kergoth`	`Elkano: i dunno if you noticed, but you wont need to poll the weapons for the temp enchants anymore, COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE shows when the poison gets applied, even when its just refreshing the buff`
`19:25.41`	`dtown123`	`I truly hope the donations are enough to pay for that bandwidth bill.`
`19:25.53`	`Elkano`	`shieldb, I only changed my pattern for detecting the name... the other stuff is caused byhmm.. was it ammo? ;) the diplay on the icon was original, the x?? was added later by me due to a request`
`19:25.55`	`kergoth`	`meh, ehadache again`
`19:25.56`	`ssm_`	`Barbanus: The price of doing something right, I guess.`
`19:26.01`	`Deviad`	`pastamancer, what's the url?`
`19:26.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`heh im bored and poking around wow.exe with a hex editor, found some lua functions i didnt know about before`
`19:26.09`	`Antiarc`	`I just mailed Quaiche and Kaelten with a patch to WAU that drastically reduces its bandwidth and connection resource usage, so hopefully that makes it in. :D`
`19:26.20`	`Saroz`	`\o/`
`19:26.22`	`andremar_`	`Arrowmaster: hms, running strings on wow.exe might prove usefull :p`
`19:26.23`	`Antiarc`	`Arrowmaster: strings wow.exe ? :)`
`19:26.25`	`pastamancer`	`Deviad: that's 2k connections on wowace`
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`19:26.33`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ`
`19:26.34`	`Deviad`	`packetlss, ah OK`
`19:26.38`	`Deviad`	`pastamancer, ah OK`
`19:26.39`	`Llais`	`got a quick question about cartographer, none of the gathering type notes are showing, though they're all checked in the dropdown.`
`19:26.42`	`Deviad`	`what about your mirror?`
`19:26.48`	`trh`	`Antiarc: i like idag wow.exe =)`
`19:26.53`	`Elkano`	`kergoth, any idea if sth like that also applies for normal buffs? it's hard to detect them updating, too :/`
`19:27.02`	`shieldb`	`Elkano, that's cool - it's more of a style choice then a "ZOMG ERRORS!" deal, I just wasn't sure if going back into the source and making the same change again would have the intended results or not :)`
`19:27.03`	`kergoth`	`not sure, havent tested it out`
`19:27.06`	`kergoth`	`would be nice though`
`19:27.37`	`*** part/#wowace mirco (n=moonblad@0x3e42d166.adsl.cybercity.dk)`
`19:27.53`	`pastamancer`	`Deviad: still syncing`
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`19:28.05`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Suntiger] by ChanServ`
`19:28.33`	`Barbanus`	`pastamancer, you setting up a /files mirror, or a svn mirror?`
`19:28.40`	`*** join/#wowace kovi (i=x@81.209.175.78)`
`19:28.55`	`pastamancer`	`files`
`19:29.04`	`Barbanus`	`woot, mine just finished :P`
`19:29.05`	`dtown123`	`seems like it would be nearly impossible to mirror svn correctly`
`19:30.21`	`pastamancer`	`http://grid.13th-floor.org/wowace/`
`19:30.48`	`pastamancer`	`updated hourly`
`19:30.52`	`dtown123`	`awesome...thanks for doing that`
`19:31.02`	`Forsight`	`in bartender3 how do u drag the bars?:P`
`19:31.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`GetManaRegen GetUnitManaRegenRateFromSpirit GetUnitHealthRegenRateFromSpirit GetUnitPowerModifier GetUnitHealthModifier UnitIsSameServer GetPVPLifetimeStats GetSpellCritChanceFromIntellect GetCritChanceFromAgility`
`19:31.08`	`renchap`	`you update from dev.wowace.com ?`
`19:31.12`	`andremar_`	`dtown123: SVN::Mirror does a pretty good job at a one-way mirror`
`19:31.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`you would think they could come up with shorter funciton names`
`19:31.13`	`hanzzon`	`yea, good work, really awsome!`
`19:31.21`	`CIA-17`	`03chinkuwaila * r24532 10Babble-2.2/ (4 files in 4 dirs):`
`19:31.21`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`19:31.21`	`CIA-17`	`- Babble-Fish-2.2.lua: added deDE translations; removed redundant "Oil Covered Fish"`
`19:31.22`	`CIA-17`	`- Babble-Herbs-2.2.lua: added deDE translations`
`19:31.22`	`CIA-17`	`- Babble-Ore-2.2.lua: added deDE translations; fixed "Throium" typo`
`19:31.22`	`CIA-17`	`- Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: fixed deDE translation of "Menethil Harbor"`
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`19:31.38`	`Jens`	`Heh... Babble-Fish :D`
`19:31.47`	`*** part/#wowace NeoHaNzo (n=buenri69@87.219.82.145)`
`19:31.51`	`andremar_`	`Forsight: shift-click the fubar plugin to unlock bars`
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`19:32.29`	`Forsight`	`zomg ;p didnt see it=D`
`19:32.30`	`Forsight`	`cheers;p`
`19:32.41`	`Forsight`	`how u know i had fubar >=P`
`19:32.51`	`Dhraga`	`Pastamancer, love ya man =)`
`19:32.54`	`Antiarc`	`Magic.`
`19:32.59`	`Barbanus`	`pastamancer, thats using the makemirror.pl.txt script you had posted before still yes?`
`19:33.02`	`andremar_`	`Forsight: I have foresight :p`
`19:33.17`	`Thorgard`	`Oh snap`
`19:33.32`	`ravagernl`	`OMG OMG OMG OMG this darktide is going nutz`
`19:33.34`	`ravagernl`	`http://www.clanok.com/darktide/penguinui.jpg`
`19:33.36`	`pastamancer`	`Barbanus: no, it's using a slightly tweaked version of the current wowace files script`
`19:33.51`	`andremar_`	`ravagernl: haha`
`19:34.00`	`andremar_`	`ravagernl: wow-ui? :p`
`19:34.07`	`ravagernl`	`yes XD`
`19:34.13`	`pastamancer`	`Barbanus: it would take forever to setup a new mirror because it has to checkout the entire trunk from dev.wowace`
`19:34.13`	`ravagernl`	`no download of textures, bah`
`19:34.45`	`Barbanus`	`pastamancer, yea`
`19:35.40`	`kergoth`	`wonder if nabucco would mind checking in the change to make nabufivesec use surfacelib`
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`19:35.45`	`Llais`	`anyone know why I can't get cartographer to show any type of node?`
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`19:37.32`	`Forsight`	`with Bartender, it can change Bars when u stealth but is there anyway to make it stay on BAR 1 but PAGE 2?`
`19:38.16`	`renchap`	`if i remember, page2 is another bar ^^`
`19:38.25`	`Forsight`	`lies`
`19:38.26`	`Forsight`	`;p`
`19:38.29`	`lhunath`	`you're confusing pages and bars.`
`19:38.34`	`dtown123`	`Forsight: are you using PAGE as a verb?`
`19:38.36`	`ilifin`	`whats the status on grid etc for raiding so far`
`19:38.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`ohh HONOR_CURRENCY_UPDATE this could be useful`
`19:39.13`	`lhunath`	`shapeshifting (including stealth) changes the page of a bar.`
`19:39.22`	`Forsight`	`verb?`
`19:39.24`	`Forsight`	`i failed english`
`19:39.29`	`Forsight`	`;p`
`19:39.39`	`*** join/#wowace Zarhan (n=kjetil@193.216.225.26)`
`19:39.42`	`dtown123`	`heh, clearly :)`
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`19:39.48`	`Hajitorus`	`u fail english? that's unpossible!`
`19:39.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`and COMBAT_RATING_UPDATE`
`19:39.51`	`Forsight`	`argg damnit`
`19:39.55`	`Forsight`	`it mixes bars!!:p`
`19:39.57`	`Forsight`	`crys`
`19:40.00`	`dtown123`	`do you want bar 1 to skip two pages when you stealth? is that what you're asking?`
`19:40.16`	`Forsight`	`no no;p`
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`19:40.24`	`Forsight`	`i was previously using discord`
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`19:40.30`	`cncfanatics`	`discord < all`
`19:40.35`	`Forsight`	`and it had it setup as bar 1 page 1 and bar 1 page 2`
`19:40.36`	`Forsight`	`lol`
`19:40.45`	`Forsight`	`but i just noticed`
`19:40.50`	`Forsight`	`its diff bars joind:(O`
`19:40.53`	`Forsight`	`gotta rework em all round`
`19:40.53`	`Forsight`	`lol`
`19:40.56`	`exile-H5`	`anyone using or used otravi_RogueHelper? /q me`
`19:41.00`	`Forsight`	`unless i can find an empty one!`
`19:41.17`	`dtown123`	`you're probably better off doing that in the long run`
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`19:42.34`	`notMusic`	`Hello`
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`19:44.09`	`mjc`	`kergoth: pingz0r`
`19:44.24`	`Amadeo`	`I bet mjc has dibs on an iPhone`
`19:44.42`	`mjc`	`no, not until there's a SDK`
`19:44.57`	`Amadeo`	`will there ever be?`
`19:45.00`	`notMusic`	`I'm having a small problem with FuBar, I basically can't log in without crashing, unless I disable the mod`
`19:45.18`	`mjc`	`Amadeo: no plans at the moment`
`19:45.28`	`mjc`	`notMusic: delete your fubar savedvars`
`19:45.30`	`cncfanatics`	`notMusic, thats most probably a blizzard and not a fubar bug`
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`19:45.47`	`Amadeo`	`I didn't think so..that's the downside of the device to me...I'd want to use it as a PDA/Smartphone device`
`19:45.58`	`notMusic`	`Ah, okay :) Thank ya`
`19:46.10`	`exile-H5`	`anyone using or used otravi_RogueHelper? Can't find any command to unlock this crap ;f`
`19:46.52`	`mjc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:47.11`	`kergoth`	`mjc: pong`
`19:47.31`	`Prophy`	`is there a way to show rogue combopoints on the PLAYER Frame? instead of target frame..`
`19:48.47`	`Amadeo`	`mjc: What does it actually run? They say OS X, but it's obviously not the entire OS`
`19:49.34`	`cncfanatics`	`Prohpy, why would u want that, they're based on the target, but you could just anchor the frame to the PlayerFrame instead of TargetFrame`
`19:49.47`	`mjc`	`Amadeo: unknown`
`19:49.58`	`mjc`	`probably driver-stripped, ARM version of OSX`
`19:50.08`	`mjc`	`3 of tiger's 4GB are drivers`
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`19:50.59`	`Prophy`	`for AGUF is there a way to show rogue combopoints on the PLAYER Frame? instead of target frame..`
`19:51.29`	`cncfanatics`	`Prohpy, read my answer above`
`19:51.38`	`Forsight`	`mm can bartender3 SHOW buttons even with no skill?`
`19:51.40`	`dtown123`	`if you move the player frame directly on top of the target frame, you'll be set`
`19:51.42`	`Prophy`	`edit ABF.lua then?`
`19:51.44`	`Forsight`	`so it doesnt leave a gap:P`
`19:51.46`	`Amadeo`	`mjc: I see`
`19:51.56`	`cncfanatics`	`Forsight, yes, toggle "show grid"`
`19:52.08`	`cncfanatics`	`Prohpy, or use an addon, but yes that'd be the best`
`19:52.09`	`deltron`	`mjc: were you at broodlord last friday?`
`19:52.16`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24533 10FuBar_BagFu/FuBar_BagFu.toc: FuBar_BagFu: toc 20003`
`19:52.21`	`mjc`	`deltron: think so, think I helped tank`
`19:52.31`	`mjc`	`not sure`
`19:52.36`	`mjc`	`taht could ahve been the friday I got laid :P`
`19:52.42`	`deltron`	`mjc: lifegiving gem and druid boots seem right for drops?`
`19:52.52`	`kergoth`	`did sanc try the new world boss last night? i'm pretty burned out, didnt feel liek playing wow at all`
`19:52.54`	`deltron`	`we tore through the suppression room`
`19:52.59`	`deltron`	`no we didn't`
`19:53.03`	`mjc`	`yeah, I was there, it was druid boots`
`19:53.05`	`deltron`	`supposedly he wasn't up`
`19:53.06`	`cncfanatics`	`new world boss ?`
`19:53.08`	`CIA-17`	`03sorren * r24534 10CooldownTimers2/CooldownTimers2.toc:`
`19:53.08`	`CIA-17`	`CooldownTimers2:`
`19:53.08`	`CIA-17`	`- Forgot to put some stuff in the ToC`
`19:53.08`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24535 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/ (FuBar_ExperienceFu.toc libs/Ace2/): FuBar_ExperienceFu: toc 20003`
`19:53.12`	`cncfanatics`	`where, who, when, why ?`
`19:53.22`	`mjc`	`kergoth: addoncp stuff...`
`19:53.22`	`kergoth`	`cncfanatics: its the dark portal event stuff`
`19:53.35`	`mjc`	`kergoth: I modified the oRA2 and BW scripts to svk move`
`19:53.48`	`mjc`	`er`
`19:53.49`	`cncfanatics`	`oh, gah, can't get on WoW`
`19:53.50`	`mjc`	`yeah.`
`19:53.55`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24536 10FuBar_MoneyFu/FuBar_MoneyFu.toc: FuBar_MoneyFu: toc 20003`
`19:53.58`	`deltron`	`cncfanatics: kruul or something`
`19:53.59`	`mjc`	`and svk move added a copy path`
`19:54.07`	`mjc`	`kergoth: any way to remove the copy path from the svk history ?`
`19:54.08`	`Adirelle`	`is GoogleSearch what it seems to be ?`
`19:54.22`	`dtown123`	`hmmp, is rabbit in here?`
`19:54.27`	`GoogleSearch`	`Yep`
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`19:54.30`	`kergoth`	`mjc: probably not without poking into svk internal properties (dont do it, bad things... my depot is unhappy with me)`
`19:54.33`	`GoogleSearch`	`Just type !google <query>`
`19:54.43`	`deltron`	`I need to set up my own svn server from you noobs`
`19:54.50`	`kergoth`	`mjc: i did notice that if i svk pull //local/kergwow/trunk/AddOns/BigWigs_Foo, it does properly pull from upstream BigWigs/Foo`
`19:54.59`	`Adirelle`	`btw, a quite dumb question to Kaelten : why not hosting /files on sf.net ?`
`19:55.05`	`kergoth`	`mjc: since pull will traverse more than one copy depth, it seems`
`19:55.06`	`Adirelle`	`!google Haggard`
`19:55.09`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24537 10FuBar_ItemBonusesFu/FuBar_ItemBonusesFu.toc: FuBar_ItemBonusesFu: toc 20003`
`19:55.29`	`mjc`	`should I svk cp //mirror/wowace/trunk/BigWigs/Foo then ?`
`19:55.35`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24538 10FuBar_LocationFu/FuBar_LocationFu.toc: FuBar_LocationFu: toc 20003`
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`19:55.42`	`mjc`	`because addoncp fubars on teh copy path stuff`
`19:56.00`	`Amadeo`	`Am I the only one in here that uses OpenDNS?`
`19:56.12`	`dtown123`	`hey guys, what's the best way to get a bug fix on an addon to the author?`
`19:56.13`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24539 10FuBar_VolumeFu/FuBar_VolumeFu.toc: FuBar_VolumeFu: toc 20003`
`19:56.27`	`mjc`	`dtown123: talk to them here :P`
`19:56.28`	`deltron`	`dtown123: most idle in here`
`19:56.29`	`ilifin`	`so whats the deal with oRA2 causing insane lag i nraids atm`
`19:56.35`	`SoLoR`	`dtown123 make a patch and send to author :)`
`19:56.35`	`Dhraga`	`ack autobar is borked =(`
`19:56.37`	`dtown123`	`I figured as much. wtb rabbit`
`19:56.40`	`SoLoR`	`thats best way to get fixed :)`
`19:56.42`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: ping`
`19:56.55`	`Matrix110`	`Adirelle its prolly harder to transit svn to sf.net than to /files !`
`19:56.58`	`Barbanus`	`dtown123, whats the bug? :)`
`19:57.20`	`dtown123`	`it's in aUF_Banzai, the Banzai plugin for aguf`
`19:57.21`	`xlvii`	`does anyone have a fix for the ag_uf combat points display (or lack, there of)?`
`19:57.30`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: pong`
`19:57.32`	`Barbanus`	`dtown123, whats the bug?`
`19:57.39`	`deltron`	`heh ag_uf was boned for me last night`
`19:57.48`	`dtown123`	`the raid frames don't turn red on agro, but all other frames do. I have a dirty fix that I sent to him weeks ago`
`19:58.01`	`dtown123`	`but judging from the update that didn't include it, I don't think he liked it :(`
`19:58.11`	`cncfanatics`	`or he just didn't see it :p`
`19:58.22`	`Barbanus`	`well you did call it a "dirty fix"`
`19:58.30`	`beerke`	`Whats console command to change leader again ?`
`19:58.35`	`TheKarn`	`whats this about pet action bar and being tainted in prat?`
`19:58.35`	`dtown123`	`well I'm convinced there's a better way to code it`
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`19:58.41`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24541 10Reslack/Reslack.toc: Reslack: toc 20003`
`19:58.45`	`Barbanus`	`dtown123, he probably is too :)`
`19:58.49`	`dtown123`	`lol`
`19:59.12`	`Barbanus`	`normally authors dont like dirty hacks when they know there is a better way to do it .. they'd rather do it the right way`
`19:59.20`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24542 10Rep2/Rep2.toc:`
`19:59.20`	`CIA-17`	`Rep2:`
`19:59.21`	`CIA-17`	`- toc 20003`
`19:59.23`	`Barbanus`	`my 2c tho`
`19:59.23`	`cncfanatics`	`heh, totaly agree :p`
`19:59.30`	`Adirelle`	`matrix110: i meant only files/`
`19:59.44`	`Adirelle`	`that mainly what is hard hit during patch days`
`19:59.47`	`dtown123`	`I'm sure. I'm a .net programmer, and many times I'd rather it be right than "dirty wrong"`
`19:59.55`	`Barbanus`	`hehe`
`20:00.12`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24543 10ClearFont2/ClearFont2.toc: ClearFont2: toc 20003`
`20:00.14`	`cncfanatics`	`php & lua only here, still hate non-oo stuff and dirty stuff :p`
`20:00.39`	`dtown123`	`I didn't realize php could actually be clean`
`20:00.42`	`Barbanus`	`php, ruby, lua, and some perl`
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`20:00.50`	`cncfanatics`	`oo based php can be dtown123 :p`
`20:00.51`	`trh`	`dtown123: it can't`
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`20:01.13`	`Adirelle`	`yep, and it should`
`20:01.15`	`Barbanus`	`the problem is 90% of php writers don't know what oo is.`
`20:01.25`	`TheKarn`	`haha`
`20:01.29`	`cncfanatics`	`oo is a blessing in all languages, including lua :p`
`20:01.31`	`TheKarn`	`python <3`
`20:01.33`	`NeoTron`	`tracks php itself doesn't know what oo is for the most part`
`20:01.40`	`dtown123`	`hence the birth of ace`
`20:01.41`	`Dhraga`	`have anyone got autobar back up and running after the patch ?`
`20:01.42`	`NeoTron`	`err. *-tracks`
`20:01.42`	`cncfanatics`	`(why doesn't lua have oo by itself damnit :p)`
`20:02.01`	`trh`	`the worst thing with php and lua is that undeclared variables are useable`
`20:02.05`	`NeoTron`	`lua does have OO although it's somewhat weird`
`20:02.06`	`kergoth`	`because it goes against lua's philosophy`
`20:02.14`	`kergoth`	`~zen of lua`
`20:02.15`	`purl`	`Doing more with less. --Martin Hollis`
`20:02.16`	`Kirkburn`	`SoLoR, zomg`
`20:02.17`	`cncfanatics`	`NeoTron, ehm ?`
`20:02.18`	`Adirelle`	`trh: that's not a question of oo`
`20:02.27`	`Matrix110`	`yes Dharga`
`20:02.28`	`cncfanatics`	`I don't know any oo lua except for aceOO`
`20:02.28`	`deltron`	`Dhraga: it worked fine for me after I enabled load older versions`
`20:02.29`	`Matrix110`	`its working here`
`20:02.34`	`trh`	`Adirelle: sure, but its important nontheless`
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`20:02.41`	`kergoth`	`i dont think you can consider the : syntax sugar OO :)`
`20:02.42`	`NeoTron`	`OO in lua uses hashes`
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`20:02.55`	`Dhraga`	`oh, must disable the shardace and try again then`
`20:03.01`	`Kirkburn`	`SoLoR, you're such a ... a ... helper! Bloody helpers! =)`
`20:03.03`	`kergoth`	`no, lua has a single datatype, the table, which can be either an array or a hash under the hood. that doesnt make it an object`
`20:03.21`	`Adirelle`	`trh: predeclaring variables is mainly a requirement in compiled languages`
`20:03.28`	`cncfanatics`	`with objects I mean inheritance, parents, objects, instancing, etc`
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`20:03.51`	`cncfanatics`	`Adirelle, both php and lua get compiled before running :p`
`20:03.54`	`cncfanatics`	`like nearly all languages`
`20:03.58`	`trh`	`Adirelle: not really - you can build easily a compiler that can use nondeclared variables`
`20:04.09`	`Stavmar`	`I got an error with the WAU and oRA everything else downloaded just fine, any thoughts?`
`20:04.09`	`Stavmar`	`oRA2 - Updating to rev 24455`
`20:04.09`	`Stavmar`	`Downloading... done.`
`20:04.09`	`Stavmar`	`- Error:`
`20:04.10`	`Stavmar`	`System.Net.WebException: An exception occurred during a WebClient request. ---> System.IO.IOException: Unable to read data from the transport connection: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host. ---> System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host`
`20:04.12`	`Stavmar`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:04.14`	`Stavmar`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:04.16`	`Stavmar`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:04.18`	`Stavmar`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:04.18`	`cncfanatics`	`Stavmar, pastey`
`20:04.20`	`trh`	`Adirelle: although usually languages with compilers tend to use declared variables`
`20:04.20`	`Stavmar`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:04.22`	`Stavmar`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:04.27`	`inph`	`weezel!`
`20:04.28`	`*** mode/#wowace [+b !n=mstav@*.isgenesis.com] by kergoth`
`20:04.28`	`*** kick/#wowace [Stavmar!n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com] by kergoth (kergoth)`
`20:04.34`	`weezel`	`inph!`
`20:04.41`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: pong?`
`20:04.42`	`dtown123`	`wow.`
`20:04.44`	`cncfanatics`	`a ban ? thats harsh kergoth`
`20:04.51`	`NeoTron`	`http://www.lua.org/pil/16.html`
`20:04.52`	`kergoth`	`tempban, i'll let him back in a few`
`20:04.57`	`dtown123`	`this just in....the wowace site is slammed, and connection issues are going to happen`
`20:04.59`	`kergoth`	`cant just kick on a paste spam, they may have auto-rejoin`
`20:05.06`	`pastamancer`	`yar`
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`20:05.26`	`Adirelle`	`cncfanatics : php and lua get compiled into a pseudo-code`
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`20:05.42`	`Adirelle`	`unless C which is compiled into processor opcode`
`20:05.48`	`cncfanatics`	`true`
`20:05.49`	`Adirelle`	`s/unless/unlike/`
`20:05.57`	`Forsight`	`1 quick question, any1 know how to make it show empty buttons?:P (in bartender3)`
`20:06.12`	`cncfanatics`	`Forsight, use the "show grid" option (already told ya -.-)`
`20:06.22`	`Forsight`	`soz i tabbed back in and couldnt see;p`
`20:06.23`	`Forsight`	`hehe`
`20:06.33`	`Forsight`	`wooo;p`
`20:06.34`	`Forsight`	`<3`
`20:06.45`	`Forsight`	`i got a mix now!!:P`
`20:06.49`	`Adirelle`	`but well, having strong typing or not is a question of design`
`20:06.50`	`cncfanatics`	`I'm gonna watch a dvd, cya all later`
`20:06.54`	`Forsight`	`Discord action bars mixed with Bartender!!!`
`20:06.56`	`xlvii`	`bai!`
`20:07.00`	`trh`	`cncfanatics: which one? :P`
`20:07.05`	cnc`away	`V for Vendetta`
`20:07.08`	`Forsight`	`snakes on a plane:P`
`20:07.10`	`trh`	`great movie!`
`20:07.13`	`trh`	`have fun!`
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`20:07.25`	`Mikma`	`dab with bt3...`
`20:07.51`	`trh`	`Forsight: is snakes on a plane any good?`
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`20:08.22`	`Amadeo`	`Mikma exclusively uses Discord Mods!`
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`20:08.52`	`Mikma`	`Amadeo: yes!`
`20:09.15`	`Forsight`	`trh first i thought it was crap cuz of name`
`20:09.18`	`Forsight`	`but its actually an ok movie`
`20:09.24`	`Amadeo`	`Snakes on a Plane?`
`20:09.28`	`Forsight`	`yea`
`20:09.30`	`Amadeo`	`hahaha`
`20:09.30`	`Forsight`	`lol`
`20:09.31`	`odt`	`SP\|Sorren: cooldowntimers2 doesn't create a bar for rapid fire`
`20:09.37`	`Forsight`	`im serious;p`
`20:09.38`	`trh`	`Forsight: well.. then i'll watch it sometimes ;)`
`20:09.41`	`dtown123`	`so, does anybody know how to get a aUF.unit given a unitId (such as 'raid21' or 'party4' etc)? I'm using a for loop to search them all and it seems like there must be a better way!`
`20:09.52`	`Forsight`	`name makes it stupid`
`20:09.55`	`Forsight`	`but the plot is finee:P`
`20:09.55`	`splitter\|`	`anyone knows why i cant klick on the head of my char and use the camera view, it has to do with ag_uf, i disabled those and it worked again. anyone has a clue?`
`20:10.11`	`Amadeo`	`Mikma: DAB = Discord Active Bloat!`
`20:10.14`	`Forsight`	`the snakes where an assasination attempt, since there cold blooded and get though the scan;p`
`20:10.15`	`Forsight`	`so its finee;p`
`20:10.32`	`odt`	`argh, i know why`
`20:10.35`	`Forsight`	`Mikma u use only DAB?`
`20:10.36`	`Mikma`	`Amadeo: Dorky Action Bars`
`20:10.42`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`20:10.43`	`odt`	`SP\|Sorren: nevermind`
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`20:10.59`	`trh`	`Forsight: sounds a bit like "the unit" (tv series)`
`20:11.06`	`Forsight`	`i got that too;p`
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`20:11.10`	`Forsight`	`great show=D`
`20:11.15`	`trh`	`ya... i like it too :)`
`20:11.25`	`Forsight`	`seen Heroes?`
`20:11.29`	`trh`	`sure :)`
`20:11.29`	`Forsight`	`even better:P`
`20:11.30`	`Amadeo`	`best show ever`
`20:11.30`	`trh`	`hiro rules :)`
`20:11.33`	`kergoth`	`heroes rocks`
`20:11.36`	`Forsight`	`yeah i love Hiro`
`20:11.39`	`kergoth`	`trh: indeed :)`
`20:11.39`	`Amadeo`	`Hiro is the best, for sure`
`20:11.40`	`Forsight`	`Im Hiro the Hero!`
`20:11.42`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`20:11.44`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ`
`20:11.44`	`Forsight`	`slap him`
`20:12.00`	`kergoth`	`hiro's such a great name for a main character`
`20:12.02`	`ITimees`	`hi, you mind if I ask about ag_unitframes?`
`20:12.03`	`kergoth`	`reminds me of snowcrash`
`20:12.03`	`trh`	`btw: look for "masi oka leno" on youtube`
`20:12.07`	`Amadeo`	`I about died when he walked up on the metro, with his hair back, speaking perfect english, haha`
`20:12.08`	`trh`	`theres a interview with him`
`20:12.08`	`kergoth`	`Hiro Protagonist!`
`20:12.13`	`trh`	`very good :)`
`20:12.25`	`Forsight`	`;p`
`20:12.26`	`vhaarr`	`ITimees: Just ask.`
`20:12.28`	`trh`	`do u watch nip tuck?`
`20:12.33`	`trh`	`and/or house md?`
`20:12.37`	`trh`	`prison break? :)`
`20:12.38`	`Amadeo`	`I need to catch up on Heroes episodes`
`20:12.39`	`dtown123`	`Amadeo: Don't forget he said "Peter you look different without the scar"`
`20:12.45`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`20:12.45`	`trh`	`scrubs?`
`20:12.50`	`Kanly`	`what kind of wow nerds are you that you have time to watch tv?`
`20:12.51`	`*** mode/#wowace [-b !n=mstav@*.isgenesis.com] by kergoth`
`20:12.57`	`dtown123`	`tivo is ftw`
`20:13.09`	`trh`	`Kanly: i got 2 tft's one is wow, other one video :)`
`20:13.16`	`cynyr`	`Kanly: i can watch while i play...`
`20:13.32`	`Kanly`	`die heretics! wow is life! there is no need for anything else!`
`20:13.39`	`cynyr`	`lol`
`20:13.51`	`Cappy-[AFK]`	`Then what are you doing in here and not in WoW? ;-)`
`20:13.52`	`cynyr`	`food maybe?`
`20:13.53`	`dtown123`	`I can watch if I'm not currently playing priest whack-a-mole`
`20:14.01`	`Kanly`	`sadly, im at work`
`20:14.03`	`vith`	`Kaelten: have you looked into integrating coral cache to the website to reduce bandwidth use? from reading the wiki it seems like there's a way to do it even for frequently updated content`
`20:14.03`	`Amadeo`	`cynyr: FoodTV!`
`20:14.26`	`cynyr`	`Amadeo: lol`
`20:14.26`	`ITimees`	`or not about ag_unitframes that much... i was using ct_unitframes till today, but switching targets in combat makes target frame invisible -_- and I tried both nurfed and ag and it's hard getting used to (esp on priest as I'm used with the "blizzard default" unitframes, the only thing I want to change is the placement of the player, player target and targetoftarget unitframes`
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`20:14.34`	`Fayara`	`hi`
`20:14.48`	`cynyr`	`hi`
`20:14.55`	`trh`	`dtown123: you got a tivo? i use a dreambox, but the episodes don't air in germany until abt 2-3 years later, so i usually get them off the internet :)`
`20:14.56`	`xlvii`	`does anyone have a fix for the ag_uf combat points display (or lack, there of)?`
`20:15.20`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`vith: http://wiki.coralcdn.org/wiki.php?n=Main.Servers`
`20:15.20`	`*** join/#wowace Christoph- (n=dont@p54802492.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)`
`20:15.23`	`Forsight`	`trh i got House/Prisonbreak yeah:p`
`20:15.23`	`dtown123`	`the tivo is my wife's leash. It allows me to play wow without irl agro`
`20:15.28`	`Forsight`	`sga/sg1`
`20:15.31`	`Adirelle`	`i guess i'll update my addons another day...`
`20:15.32`	`Forsight`	`dont watch niptuck;p`
`20:15.41`	`vith`	`EvilGrin\|Win: that's what i just read`
`20:15.44`	`Christoph-`	`Does anyone have a fix for lern2count?`
`20:15.46`	`Fisker-`	`the quest part 2 was awesome`
`20:15.51`	`trh`	`Forsight: house is awesome :) i'm watching 3x11 atm ;)`
`20:15.54`	`[dRaCo]`	`vhaarr: when I click a party member frame with Click2Cast, it just selects the player`
`20:15.56`	`Adirelle`	`barbanus : what about your mirror ? :D`
`20:15.58`	`Forsight`	`its called Go2School Christoph- ;`
`20:15.59`	`Forsight`	`;p`
`20:16.04`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`vith: coralising www.wowace.com/files would be nice :P`
`20:16.05`	`Forsight`	`yeah i saw it yesterday`
`20:16.07`	`[dRaCo]`	`tested again with the latest version just to be sure`
`20:16.08`	`vhaarr`	`[dRaCo]: Okay, weird.`
`20:16.10`	`Fisker-`	`lern2count does what?`
`20:16.12`	`Forsight`	`ending makes the whole episode`
`20:16.13`	`Forsight`	`:P`
`20:16.20`	`Forsight`	`last 2minutes i should say`
`20:16.21`	`trh`	`Forsight: damn you ;) it tooks a while to get it via internet :(`
`20:16.30`	`Forsight`	`i got it <5mins;p`
`20:16.31`	`Forsight`	`hehe`
`20:16.31`	`trh`	`Forsight: but in a few days i get 16mbit downstream :)`
`20:16.38`	`exile-H5`	`btw: WowAceUpdater doesn't work?`
`20:16.40`	`[dRaCo]`	`it works fine with sRaidFrames and the target frame, thouhg`
`20:16.44`	`Forsight`	`yeah i just changed from 1.5m too 14mb/s`
`20:16.47`	`vhaarr`	`[dRaCo]: Let me test.`
`20:16.47`	`Antiarc`	`Not while the site's hammered, exile-H5`
`20:16.53`	`Amadeo`	`damn, you guys have a lot of bandwidth`
`20:16.57`	`exile-H5`	`ah, as I thought;]`
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`20:17.07`	`dtown123`	`exile: it worked for me, but it took a long time.`
`20:17.08`	`vith`	`EvilGrin\|Win: exactly. i'm doing it in wowaceupdater, but it doesn't help when i'm probably the only one doing it.. and it'd be better if the indexes were still served by wowace.com directly so there would be no delay in updates`
`20:17.10`	`trh`	`Forsight: nice.. just out of curiosity, what does it cost in .au? :)`
`20:17.12`	`Adirelle`	`Kaelten : ping`
`20:17.22`	`vhaarr`	`[dRaCo]: Works 100% here, all my 9 click2cast bindings work.`
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`20:18.01`	`[dRaCo]`	`weird.`
`20:18.04`	`ITimees`	`so, any mod that works like CT_UnitFrames? (that is, permits dragging the player, playertarget and ToT frames and also displays the mana and hp of your party members in partyframe?`
`20:18.07`	`Forsight`	`im paying $70AU for 60gig downloads (free uploads) 24mb/1mb (getting 14mb since away from the line)`
`20:18.23`	`[dRaCo]`	`we're talking bout the same frames, the ones on the left side? ;)`
`20:18.45`	`odt`	`is there a specific reason why the latest cartographer in /files doesn't include a toc?`
`20:18.52`	`vhaarr`	`ITimees: You can drag them with agUF.`
`20:18.57`	`nevcairiel`	`~framexml`
`20:18.58`	`purl`	`get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip`
`20:18.58`	`ITimees`	`i know`
`20:18.59`	`vhaarr`	`[dRaCo]: Obviously.`
`20:19.07`	`*** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@204.90.50.252)`
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`20:19.11`	`trh`	`Forsight: sounds ok... we'll be getting 16mbit/1mbit with a phone & data flatrate for 52eur per month`
`20:19.17`	`Christoph-`	`lern2count adds tiny numbers to the action buttons that shows how many times you can cast a spell`
`20:19.23`	`ITimees`	`vhaarr: i don't like agUF, that's the thing, i can't get used to them, i like the blizzard style`
`20:19.27`	`trh`	`Forsight: (real flatrate, no volumes)`
`20:19.33`	`vhaarr`	`ITimees: You're weird.`
`20:19.37`	`ITimees`	`i know :)`
`20:19.44`	`xlvii`	`vhaarr, i concur.`
`20:19.52`	`Christoph-`	`so there is no fix yet?`
`20:19.52`	`ITimees`	`there used to be an addon named "MoveAnything" a while back`
`20:20.06`	`Kanly`	`still is`
`20:20.13`	`vhaarr`	`Visor2?`
`20:20.19`	`dtown123`	`agreed. as a healer, I've found that aguf raid frames are excellent.`
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`20:20.30`	`Antiarc`	`So, last night, a few of us were killing level 70s in Deadwind Pass.`
`20:20.39`	`ITimees`	`because there doesn't seem to be an update for ct_uf`
`20:20.45`	`Antiarc`	`We got some Netherweave and decided, since we had a server monopoly on it so far, to put it up for 9-11g per piece.`
`20:20.56`	`Kanly`	`did it actually sell?`
`20:20.58`	`Antiarc`	`It suddenly occurs to me that the next week is going to involve seriously jacking up some Auctioneer users. :D`
`20:21.09`	`Antiarc`	`They're going to be doing a week's worth of scans and seeing Netherweave for 10g per piece`
`20:21.19`	`Antiarc`	`So when live comes out, the stupid ones are gonna get buuuuurned.`
`20:21.23`	`Antiarc`	`Err, live BC`
`20:21.29`	`jimbob78_ka`	`so, just wanted to chekc real quick, is there a mirror for the wowace files? The site is completely dead atm.`
`20:21.31`	`Antiarc`	`I don't know if it sold yet`
`20:21.35`	`dtown123`	`ITimees: ct is delaying so they can add in more memory leaks`
`20:21.35`	`Antiarc`	`Put it on before I went to bed`
`20:21.35`	`[dRaCo]`	`any idea what might cause that, vhaarr?`
`20:21.37`	`trh`	`Antiarc: scamming th scammers ;)`
`20:21.43`	`*** join/#wowace cathammer (n=c@adsl-241-186-83.bna.bellsouth.net)`
`20:21.45`	`Antiarc`	`trh: Unintentionally, but yes :d`
`20:21.50`	`ITimees`	`meh`
`20:21.51`	`vhaarr`	`[dRaCo]: No.`
`20:21.52`	`JoshBorke`	`there's no reason to insult another mod`
`20:21.55`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Antiarc: I plan on feeding off of those people.`
`20:21.56`	`Fireclaw`	`so promoting is bugged, any workarounds ?`
`20:21.57`	`Antiarc`	`Since there's no one else seeding the market, we get to set their "correct" prices anywhere we want.`
`20:21.59`	`Antiarc`	`It's awesome.`
`20:22.04`	`Kanly`	`theres nothign wrong with auctioneer`
`20:22.04`	`Fireclaw`	`like a script function or something`
`20:22.27`	`Adirelle`	`well, going to see what's broken :)`
`20:23.00`	`Kanly`	`ill just be flat out clearing my database release day anyway`
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`20:23.12`	`Kanly`	`all the stuff currently valuable gonna plummet in price as it is`
`20:23.16`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I'll not be doing any auction stuff until maybe a month later.`
`20:23.27`	`Fireclaw`	`plummet?`
`20:23.28`	`Fireclaw`	`well`
`20:23.39`	`Fireclaw`	`on my server reagents are already at the vendor price of the drops`
`20:23.41`	`*** join/#wowace steev64 (n=steev@gentoo/developer/steev)`
`20:23.46`	`Fireclaw`	`so i dont think those will drop`
`20:23.59`	`Kanly`	`even stuff like mooncloth and arcanite?`
`20:24.10`	`Fireclaw`	`well arcanite drops like mad`
`20:24.17`	`Fireclaw`	`mooncloth, dunno`
`20:24.31`	`Fireclaw`	`transmute is exploitable atm anyway :P`
`20:24.37`	`kenlyric\|work`	`mooncloth is already crap on our server.`
`20:24.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`runecloth will temporarily skyrocket :P`
`20:24.43`	`kenlyric\|work`	`sells for barely more than 2 felcloth.`
`20:24.48`	`trh`	`in bc there'll be 20 slot bags, so no one buys mooncloth anymore`
`20:24.51`	`dtown123`	`runecloth WILL skyrocket`
`20:24.54`	`Antiarc`	`Runecloth is going to be insane`
`20:24.56`	`dtown123`	`invest now...trust me`
`20:24.56`	`Kanly`	`so will thorium`
`20:24.57`	`Fireclaw`	`shhh`
`20:24.58`	`Antiarc`	`On beta it was 30g per stack`
`20:24.59`	`FtH\|eagle`	`http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/07011009.html <- just cool`
`20:25.05`	`Fireclaw`	`im trying to make money of that so SHUSH :P`
`20:25.10`	`Kanly`	`and probably rugged leather`
`20:25.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Antiarc: i know, i made a pretty penny from that. But to be fair, beta was all play money anyway`
`20:25.24`	`Rashomon`	`Why will Runecloth skyrocket?`
`20:25.27`	`Fireclaw`	`well, one thing is that all the ~300 things will be in demand for levelling`
`20:25.33`	`trh`	`Kanly: thats good.. got a twink with a full bank of rugged leather (collected in once for darkmoon stuff) :)`
`20:25.33`	`Kanly`	`folks will be raising tailoring and first aid in a hurry`
`20:25.34`	`Fireclaw`	`but they might also drop more right ?`
`20:25.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Rashomon: need to skill up FA from 300->330 on heavy runecloth bandages`
`20:25.44`	`Antiarc`	`NightHawkTheSane: I don't think it'll be anywhere near 30g/stack, but I wouldn't be surprised to see 8g.`
`20:25.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`and they go green around 320 i think?`
`20:25.56`	`Rashomon`	`aaah, then I'll be farming mobs for runecloth like mad`
`20:25.59`	`durcyn`	`it took me ~5 stacks on beta`
`20:26.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Antiarc: yeah, that's probably close.`
`20:26.04`	`Adirelle`	`icon not showing oO`
`20:26.09`	`Adirelle`	`database ?`
`20:26.19`	`abyssichate`	`does anyone have this AutoBar-2.00.00.21 beta\Core.lua:1416: bad argument #1 to 'fmod' (number expected, got nil) ?`
`20:26.20`	`Kanly`	`personally im not gonna bother touching tradeskills until 70, they just slow levelling down`
`20:26.38`	`Elkano`	`is there any news on the leatherwork/blacksmith specilisations?`
`20:26.42`	`*** join/#wowace Klazar\|work_ (n=hillbill@76.179.172.244)`
`20:26.48`	`Antiarc`	`I will be using the hell out of my Enchanting`
`20:26.49`	`Kanly`	`blacksmith you can reset for a price last i heard`
`20:26.55`	`Antiarc`	`I'm a rogue, and we're getting a billion +AP enchants`
`20:26.56`	`Forsight`	`tsh yeah australia sucks.. we have limits:(`
`20:26.57`	`Christoph-`	`Is there no mod doing the same thing: lern2count adds ABinfo castcounts to spell and actions`
`20:26.59`	`Antiarc`	`Which is the best thing ever.`
`20:27.04`	`Forsight`	`mines with a voip tooo`
`20:27.09`	`Kanly`	`but, all the old specialization recipes are now general blacksmith recipes`
`20:27.20`	`Forsight`	`soo flat calls around australia and 5c a minute outside australia`
`20:27.27`	`Kanly`	`so if youre an armorsmith and you change specialties, you get to keep your titanic legs and lionheart helm recipes!`
`20:27.38`	`Forsight`	`?`
`20:28.32`	`Forsight`	`what if u change from Armorsmith to Weaponsmith`
`20:28.32`	`Forsight`	`can u still make the armor recipes`
`20:28.32`	`Matrix110`	`you loose all Amorsmith things afaik`
`20:28.32`	`Kanly`	`nope`
`20:28.32`	`Matrix110`	`still have them in menu but cant make them`
`20:28.32`	`dtown123`	`recently changed`
`20:28.32`	`*** join/#wowace j0ppeman (n=jeppe@70.48.239.193.in-addr.arpa.ka-net.dk)`
`20:28.32`	`Kanly`	`all old world blacksmith specialization recipes are now general blacksmith recipes`
`20:28.32`	`Forsight`	`so u still keep pattenrs?`
`20:28.32`	`Fayara`	`you just lose the new ones`
`20:28.32`	`Kanly`	`right`
`20:28.32`	`j0ppeman`	`is there an auto updater? people say so, but i cant find it :\|`
`20:28.32`	`dtown123`	`Kanly: does that include the nightfall axe?`
`20:28.33`	`Forsight`	`ohh`
`20:28.33`	`Kanly`	`so anything a blacksmith currently has, they will not lose`
`20:28.35`	`Fayara`	`the pre-TBC you can still build`
`20:28.35`	`jimbob78_ka`	`so, just wanted to chekc real quick, is there a mirror for the wowace files? The site is completely dead atm.`
`20:28.39`	`Forsight`	`so that means for example... arcanite reaper is now normal?`
`20:28.43`	`ITimees`	`any new damagemeters existing btw?`
`20:28.44`	`Kanly`	`so you can change specialization and not lose recipes`
`20:28.44`	`\|Kev\|`	`j0ppeman: which OS?`
`20:28.44`	`snurre-`	`yes`
`20:28.48`	`j0ppeman`	`windows`
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`20:29.00`	`\|Kev\|`	`wowaceupdater`
`20:29.02`	`Kanly`	`keep in mind this is just old world`
`20:29.08`	`j0ppeman`	`and where do i find it?`
`20:29.09`	`snurre-`	`all blacksmiths can learn stuff like lionheart etc now`
`20:29.13`	`Kanly`	`new specialization recipes will still have their requirements`
`20:29.15`	`pastamancer`	`files mirror: http://grid.13th-floor.org/wowace/ updated hourly`
`20:29.35`	`snurre-`	`only BoP stuff will have spec requirement, like the other tradeskills`
`20:29.55`	`j0ppeman`	`\|Kev\| can you give me a link to download this?`
`20:30.03`	`Kanly`	`yes, so my dumb armorsmith ass could learn persuader!`
`20:30.08`	`Kanly`	`not like i'd actually want to`
`20:30.17`	`\|Kev\|`	`j0ppeman: google will tell you that :)`
`20:30.21`	`danzor`	`pastamancer will that files mirror work with the wowaceupdater?`
`20:30.24`	`ravagernl`	`pastamancer, can you set the path for that in wau?`
`20:30.31`	`j0ppeman`	`finaly`
`20:30.31`	`j0ppeman`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:30.33`	`pastamancer`	`yes`
`20:30.34`	`ravagernl`	`what danzor said ^^`
`20:30.34`	`Antiarc`	`http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=223`
`20:30.34`	`\|Kev\|`	`danzor: yes`
`20:30.35`	`pastamancer`	`it works with WAU`
`20:30.37`	`*** part/#wowace Christoph- (n=dont@p54802492.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)`
`20:30.40`	`Antiarc`	`VGCats is so horribly wrong and yet, so right.`
`20:30.49`	`\|Kev\|`	`it'll work with wau`
`20:30.55`	`danzor`	`nevermind, I had a comma at the end of the url, my bad.`
`20:30.56`	`\|Kev\|`	`and the java and mac ones both use it by defaut`
`20:31.51`	`Thorgard`	`pastamancer, will we ever see a split-able Grid? Like, making two or more frames to hold units in?`
`20:32.08`	`*** part/#wowace splitter\| (n=splitjac@p5B0072B2.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`20:32.19`	`mjc`	`MultiGrid eh`
`20:32.22`	`Adirelle`	`pastamancer <3`
`20:32.26`	`JoshBorke`	`sounds painful`
`20:32.28`	`dtown123`	`pasta: you're hosting descript.ion too? nice`
`20:32.36`	`Emex`	`Anybody got new bartender3 to send? or give some url to some other site? I tryed googling it`
`20:32.36`	`Forsight`	`Any Action Bars like bartender but will CHANGE bars on distance?? for example a hunter, if someone gets tooo close.. it changes bars???`
`20:32.43`	`pastamancer`	`Thorgard: probably not`
`20:32.52`	`Antiarc`	`Forsight: Not possible in combat.`
`20:32.54`	`JoshBorke`	`Forsight: you sure that's possible?`
`20:33.00`	`Emex`	`Forsight, Im not sure, but I used flexar for that before.`
`20:33.00`	`pastamancer`	`Forsight: not possible`
`20:33.05`	`Thorgard`	`pastamancer, a'ight.`
`20:33.21`	`pastamancer`	`it went away in 2.0`
`20:33.23`	`shieldb`	`it was possible with 1.12 but not in 2.0 or later versions`
`20:33.25`	`Emex`	`maybe removed the possibility toto that`
`20:33.29`	`Forsight`	`DAB used to have it hehe`
`20:33.32`	`Forsight`	`how come its not possible`
`20:33.34`	`Emex`	`Shieldb, ok`
`20:33.35`	`dtown123`	`conditional Frame changes like that aren't allowed.`
`20:33.38`	`Forsight`	`awww`
`20:33.40`	`Antiarc`	`http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2825/bartankjw1.gif`
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`20:34.00`	`Matrix110`	`hmm can you change the framstrata incombat?`
`20:34.05`	`mjc`	`no`
`20:34.06`	`dtown123`	`the best you can do is change the alpha on certain button iirc`
`20:34.13`	`Matrix110`	`k then it wont work:-(`
`20:34.23`	`Forsight`	`;p`
`20:34.31`	`Forsight`	`well my ui works now hehe`
`20:34.34`	`Forsight`	`brothers screwd`
`20:34.36`	`Forsight`	`muahaha`
`20:34.44`	`Andunea`	`where can i find the layout of the addons if i need to reinstall but dont want to set up everything again?`
`20:34.53`	`Forsight`	`copy ur WTF folder`
`20:34.56`	`djspark`	`would you say lua is easy to learn for someone that knows php?`
`20:35.01`	`Antiarc`	`Yes.`
`20:35.04`	`Forsight`	`yeah spark`
`20:35.05`	`mjc`	`php is a terrible bastard of a language`
`20:35.07`	`pastamancer`	`lua is pretty easy to learn`
`20:35.07`	`Forsight`	`its basic;p`
`20:35.09`	`Andunea`	`ty`
`20:35.10`	`pastamancer`	`mjc: agreed`
`20:35.16`	`shieldb`	`you can use a macro of /swapactionbar 1 2 to swap between those pages and have ranged/melee stuff on the seperate bars`
`20:35.18`	`Antiarc`	`php's good enough at what it does`
`20:35.23`	`Antiarc`	`It's just not a good teaching/learning language :P`
`20:35.26`	`mjc`	`and I've never seen anyone that claims to know php that actually does, that would even ask such a question`
`20:35.31`	`shieldb`	`and then have some sort of an addon that popped up "hey, they're in melee range" that reminded you to swap the bars yourself`
`20:35.36`	`shieldb`	`but you can't do it automatically`
`20:35.47`	`dtown123`	`if you can program, lua is really no different than anything else. you just have say "ok, how do I do if/then in THIS one?"`
`20:35.50`	`djspark`	`ok thanks, I know c++ and java, etc... but thought of lua more like php`
`20:35.54`	`djspark`	`and want to learn it`
`20:35.57`	`abyssichate`	`So, is anyone else having issues with Autobar giving this error: AutoBar-2.00.00.21 beta\Core.lua:1416: bad argument #1 to 'fmod' (number expected, got nil) and not working at all overall?`
`20:36.05`	`mjc`	`djspark: lua.org/pil`
`20:36.06`	`Forsight`	`once u know basic syntax all languages are easy to pickup/understand`
`20:36.25`	`Forsight`	`abyssichate what is that with? loading in general or using an item`
`20:36.29`	`pastamancer`	`it's all algol anyways`
`20:36.33`	`Rashomon`	`pastamancer: Thank you x 1000 for mirroring the wowace files! Finally my bash script has speeeeeed ;)`
`20:36.51`	`mjc`	`lol pasta`
`20:37.10`	`Forsight`	`abyssichate :im using 2.00.00.08 BETA version of Autobar and its fine for me...`
`20:37.23`	`Rashomon`	`pastamancer: or so I thought, It'd seem that not everything is copied, is it?`
`20:37.24`	`abyssichate`	`loading in general`
`20:37.34`	`Codayus`	`Forsight: Well, to a point. The first functional language you run into may throw you for a loop...`
`20:37.41`	`djspark`	`is the only external data access permitted by blizz filewriting?`
`20:37.46`	`pastamancer`	`Rashomon: it should have everything`
`20:37.46`	`Codayus`	`Haskell just isn't like C. :-)`
`20:37.47`	`Antiarc`	`Yes`
`20:37.56`	`Rashomon`	`pastamancer: even the no-ext files?`
`20:38.00`	`trh`	`haskell is scary ;)`
`20:38.02`	`pastamancer`	`mmm, haskell... I need to spend some quality time with that`
`20:38.06`	`Codayus`	`I <3 Haskell.`
`20:38.09`	`pastamancer`	`Rashomon: even the no-ext files`
`20:38.14`	`trh`	`pastamancer: its called pain time :P`
`20:38.15`	`Antiarc`	`There's no effective way to get data in and out of WoW within the TOS other than writing to SavedVars on a UI reload or logout.`
`20:38.34`	`pastamancer`	`I get the impression that haskell is somewhere between lisp/scheme and prolog, at least from what I've looked at`
`20:38.35`	`Codayus`	`Well, there's copy and paste!`
`20:38.40`	`Rashomon`	`pastamancer: hmmm, i get a lot of strange "Could nnot resolve .....' errors`
`20:38.41`	`Antiarc`	`That's not effective! :P`
`20:38.44`	`Forsight`	`abyssichate possibly change versions??`
`20:38.45`	`trh`	`pastamancer: it is`
`20:38.48`	`djspark`	`so cosmos is just asking for problems?`
`20:38.49`	`Forsight`	`like i sayd my .08 BETA works fine:P`
`20:38.55`	`*** join/#wowace Druiz (n=user@ipd50a3ce0.speed.planet.nl)`
`20:38.59`	`pastamancer`	`Rashomon: could you be more specific?`
`20:39.01`	`Antiarc`	`Cosmos doesn't move any data in or out of WoW`
`20:39.04`	`mjc`	`Rashomon: cause you're a moron and made a typo`
`20:39.11`	`abyssichate`	`yeah well, the site is broken now so I thought htat hte latest pushed version would work`
`20:39.12`	`Antiarc`	`It deals only with addons and the SavedVars`
`20:39.16`	`Rashomon`	`pastamancer: mind if i go private?`
`20:39.18`	`*** join/#wowace hashar (n=Ashar@twenkill.dyndns.org)`
`20:39.28`	`pastamancer`	`Rashomon: I suppose not, you're window #24`
`20:39.28`	`Rashomon`	`mjc: mind you, but no ;)`
`20:39.36`	`Forsight`	`abyssichate if u want ill upload mine for ya`
`20:39.37`	`djspark`	`ok, so thotbot is updated by them when the ui is reloaded or a logoff`
`20:39.43`	`abyssichate`	`yeah, that'd be appreciated`
`20:40.00`	`Antiarc`	`Well, the SavedVars are updated on ui reload or logoff, then when you run their launcher, it reads and parses and uploads the SavedVars data`
`20:40.06`	`pastamancer`	`Rashomon: oh, and make sure you're registered with nickserv`
`20:40.09`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24544 10TauntWarn/TauntWarn.lua:`
`20:40.09`	`CIA-17`	`TauntWarn:`
`20:40.09`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed fubar icon`
`20:40.10`	`abyssichate`	`upload the autobaroptions as well :)`
`20:40.42`	`Rashomon`	`pastamancer: I was sure I was , but maybe i am not ;)`
`20:41.03`	`djspark`	`and there are no other methods of getting data in or out within their TOS ? how sad`
`20:41.04`	`Forsight`	`can we link crap here or shall i pm ppl?;p`
`20:41.12`	`pastamancer`	`Rashomon: I haven't seen any messages from you`
`20:41.21`	`Antiarc`	`djspark: Nope.`
`20:41.27`	`Antiarc`	`Done primarily to prevent botting, I believe.`
`20:41.44`	`mjc`	`all their methods for preventing botting are pretty shitty`
`20:41.53`	`Forsight`	`abyssichate check ur PM`
`20:41.54`	`Rashomon`	`pastamancer: allright I'll take it here instead. I've been using my own made bash-script which has always worked with wowace.com/files`
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`20:42.16`	`pastamancer`	`Rashomon: mmkay`
`20:42.21`	`Antiarc`	`I would absolutely love to be able to open an outbound socket. Inbound would be sauce, too, but the only thing I can think that I'd want to pull in is Thott data and DKP data`
`20:42.27`	`Antiarc`	`Outbound you could publish so much useful crap`
`20:42.39`	`djspark`	`can you imagine how robust wow would be if they didn't prevent that, irc inside wow, thot/wiki/alla searching within wow, dkp systems syncing in realtime`
`20:42.44`	`Rashomon`	`pastamancer: it uses curl to fetch the latest versions from server, but somehow some of the files Im getting from you end up in messages like this "curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host '13th-floor.org">webmaster<'"`
`20:42.46`	`Antiarc`	`Heh, yup.`
`20:42.55`	`Rashomon`	`pastamancer: and I never got those from wowace.com`
`20:43.08`	`pastamancer`	`I'd love to have EQIM bots in wow`
`20:43.49`	`pastamancer`	`Rashomon: what url is curl trying to get?`
`20:44.04`	`djspark`	`well actually I could make a searchable wowwiki bot in wow by syncing the data every night... would be like the triva bot`
`20:44.05`	`Rashomon`	`pastamancer: im looking into that right now. hold on a sec`
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`20:45.19`	`Antiarc`	`djspark: That amount of info would slaughter your UI's memory :P`
`20:45.20`	`*** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-69-244-72-105.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`20:45.25`	`Rashomon`	`pastamancer: for example http://grid.13th-floor.org/wowace/Crayon-2.0`
`20:45.39`	`djspark`	`oh that's right, because it all gets loaded on login`
`20:45.40`	`Rashomon`	`pastamancer: has there recently been some name change to some of the libraries?`
`20:46.08`	`Antiarc`	`Well, not always - you could load pieces on demand - but there's no way to unload anything short of a UI reload or relog.`
`20:46.12`	`JoshBorke`	`LoD based on type of knowledge needed`
`20:46.31`	`KarlThePagan`	`xml/http from inside wow would be cool`
`20:46.33`	`djspark`	`there's no memory cleanup?`
`20:46.57`	`Antiarc`	`There is, but if you remove a reference to data in your saved vars so it gets GC'd, then when you log out, you lose that info from your SavedVar`
`20:47.08`	`Antiarc`	`So you'd lose that data permanently until your next sync`
`20:47.11`	`Rashomon`	`pastamancer: some of the files are downloadable, but with some of the files im getting these strange errors (that looks to me like they are part of a longer error message like the one I get from the error message you get from the url i wrote in the last message)`
`20:47.27`	`pastamancer`	`Rashomon: is Crayon listed in index.html or descript.ion? I'll bet it isn't`
`20:47.45`	`*** join/#wowace Chomp (n=Chomp@cpc4-cove7-0-0-cust6.sol2.cable.ntl.com)`
`20:48.16`	`mjc`	`http://www.hooters.com/news_and_events/news/2006/2006-10-31_Gates_Buffet.asp`
`20:48.18`	`Antiarc`	`Once you load data from a SavedVar, you can't unload that data from memory without losing the contents of the SavedVar for your next session. For it to be written back to disk, you have to have it in memory in the SavedVar, so it'd bloat up pretty fast.`
`20:48.40`	`Antiarc`	`If you did a synch before you booted up WoW every time, that would circumvent it, but that's a clumsy solution`
`20:48.49`	`Rashomon`	`pastamancer: You are gessing right, but these files has been on the wowace.com/files server for ages now. Have they just dissapeared yesterday? Or are you only copying the files listed in that HTML-styled listing from wowace.com/files?`
`20:49.33`	`pastamancer`	`Rashomon: they were left-over. the new files script doesn't update files with invalid externals or a toc version < 20000`
`20:49.44`	`djspark`	`Antiarc: maybe it just takes someone setting up a solution like that and seeing blizzards reaction after one user named wowwiki gets over 50,000 pm's a minute`
`20:50.17`	`Antiarc`	`I'm pretty sure that you'd get DCd if you were receiving 833 tells per second. :D`
`20:50.24`	`pastamancer`	`lol`
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`20:50.36`	`mjc`	`djspark: wowwiki addon channel.`
`20:50.37`	`pastamancer`	`well, there aren't cross-server tells that I know of`
`20:50.40`	`trh`	`they got a spam protection`
`20:50.45`	`djspark`	`forgot the 833.33333 ;-)`
`20:50.48`	`Antiarc`	`I actually once kicked my entire guild offline when working on a channel-linking addon`
`20:50.52`	`*** join/#wowace onkeltom (i=onkeltom@166.172.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch)`
`20:50.55`	`trh`	`a while ago when you rotated fast (with mouse)`
`20:50.58`	`trh`	`you got kicked a while`
`20:51.04`	`djspark`	`no, just on one server, it'd catch on fast`
`20:51.05`	`Antiarc`	`I forgot to terminate a loop and sent a synch request that caused them all to spam the channel with 1 message per frame.`
`20:51.13`	`djspark`	`everyone on the server would have char wowwiki on their buddy list`
`20:51.18`	`Antiarc`	`The channel cleared off pretty fast.`
`20:51.24`	`mjc`	`djspark: addon channels have lower spam limits.`
`20:51.28`	`Rashomon`	`pastamancer: I see, and It also seems that the libs like Deformat and Crayon thet previously had names like Deformat-2.0 and Crayon-2.0 now have altered names. I'll just have change my addon listing then ;) Thanks for helping out!`
`20:52.57`	`*** part/#wowace Druiz (n=user@ipd50a3ce0.speed.planet.nl)`
`20:52.59`	`djspark`	`mjc: I would have it all in /tell ie /tell wowwiki :search:"Draenei"`
`20:53.07`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24546 10MobHealth/MobHealth.toc: MobHealth3: toc 20003`
`20:53.10`	`NeoTron`	`trh: that bug has been around so long. are you saying it's fixed?`
`20:53.15`	`*** join/#wowace loladatotal (n=mind@a81-84-45-117.cpe.netcabo.pt)`
`20:53.22`	`djspark`	`the response would be the text summary of that article`
`20:53.27`	`NeoTron`	`I reported that, at least, in closed beta or perhaps even earlier. :P`
`20:53.30`	`trh`	`NeoTron: i do think so, at least i couldn't get it to disconnect`
`20:53.37`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24547 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.toc: WitchHunt: toc 20003 not 2`
`20:53.44`	`shieldb`	`hmm.. anyone aware if there's an ace2 implementation of poisonmaster or buypoisons that's being updated? 2.0.3 broke both of those and they haven't been updated in some time`
`20:53.53`	`loladatotal`	`can anyone tell me how to make addon save the options, like position, showtext, position on minimap`
`20:53.58`	`shieldb`	`or a mod that has the same fuctionality :)`
`20:54.02`	`NeoTron`	`trh: only took 2.5+ years then to fix it`
`20:54.11`	`trh`	`NeoTron: thats fast for blizzard`
`20:54.21`	`NeoTron`	`blazing fast`
`20:54.25`	`Antiarc`	`shieldb: Hemlock, though that is also sorta buggy in 2.0.3`
`20:54.31`	`Antiarc`	`But I'll be fixing it tonight, time permitting.`
`20:54.39`	`pastamancer`	`I'd love to see someone write an in-game peer-to-peer wiki that properly synchronized changes made between people that weren't online at the same time`
`20:55.18`	`shieldb`	`antiarc: well, anything that's still in development is a vast improvement over me trying to fix someone else's way outdated code :)`
`20:55.18`	`Antiarc`	`pastamancer: I've thought about something like that for a guild calendar, but I figure it's probably not worth the time :D`
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`20:55.18`	`durcyn`	`pastamancer: port infobot to lua!`
`20:55.22`	`Adirelle`	`damn, directly calling PromoteToAssistant don't seems to work in frFR :s`
`20:55.41`	`Chomp`	`does anyone have a problem with autobar, buttons not showing?`
`20:55.55`	`pastamancer`	`Antiarc: totally not worth the time, but it sure would be cool from a comp-sci standpoint`
`20:56.02`	`djspark`	`pastamancer: I imagine that it takes something like that (reinvent the wheel) to get their attention enough to consider some level of xml/http`
`20:56.07`	`*** join/#wowace Prismatech (n=chatzill@i577AD1DC.versanet.de)`
`20:56.07`	`shieldb`	`Adirelle, name lookup in general is bugged currently - add the last letter in someone's name and it usually works`
`20:56.08`	`Antiarc`	`pastamancer: Agreed 100%.`
`20:56.17`	`Antiarc`	`djspark: They don't really care if we can't get info in from the outside.`
`20:56.24`	`Adirelle`	`shieldb : usually, but not always :s`
`20:56.27`	`Antiarc`	`There are a billion and one DKP mods that require manual synching`
`20:56.35`	`Antiarc`	`They haven't opened xml/http for those :)`
`20:56.41`	`shieldb`	`i.e. /script PromoteToAssistant("Somedudee") instead of "Somedude"`
`20:56.41`	`loladatotal`	`adirelle use raid ids`
`20:56.50`	`shieldb`	`but yeah, doesn't always work`
`20:57.00`	`Antiarc`	`I wish it were otherwise, but I don't think we'll ever get the ability to move data in and out of WoW`
`20:57.19`	`loladatotal`	`PromoteToLeader("raidi");`
`20:57.23`	`djspark`	`Antiarc: of course, but in a situation where their servers are taking the brunt of that restriction (wowwiki/thot/alla generates much more traffic than a dkp system) I think they'd at least look into it`
`20:57.42`	`Antiarc`	`Their chat channels are throttled to prevent them from being overloaded.`
`20:57.52`	`Antiarc`	`You try to send too much info too fast, you get kicked.`
`20:58.00`	`pastamancer`	`yeah`
`20:58.06`	`pastamancer`	`hence ChatThrottleLib`
`20:58.17`	`Antiarc`	`So it's not really possible to force Bliz into opening other channels by introducing an addon that overloads the chat channels`
`20:58.28`	`Antiarc`	`You'll just get knocked offline when someone requests a 3-page article :)`
`20:58.39`	`djspark`	`of course, but that's the beauty of what Iw as talking about, it would be thousands of users sending /tell 's to one person`
`20:58.42`	`loladatotal`	`can anyone tell me how to make fubar based addon save the options, like position, showtext, position on minimap`
`20:58.48`	`Antiarc`	`That happens all the time`
`20:59.04`	`Antiarc`	`The amount of behind-the-scenes traffic in a raid is staggering`
`20:59.19`	`djspark`	`would that fall into their throtled system?`
`20:59.26`	`*** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@bozartmp-1.student.rose-hulman.edu)`
`20:59.36`	`Antiarc`	`Yes. See pastamancer's note about ChatThrottleLib`
`21:00.04`	`Antiarc`	`They set the limits, and we can't "break the limits" to motivate them to change their system, because trying to break them just gets us knocked offline.`
`21:00.08`	`djspark`	`yeah, thought that was in one channel not total amount of incoming tells from different people`
`21:00.15`	`Antiarc`	`What's the difference?`
`21:00.26`	`Antiarc`	`For a raid channel, it's actually even more significant`
`21:00.36`	`Antiarc`	`Every message goes to 40 people, so you have 40 times the bandwidth used`
`21:00.43`	`Antiarc`	`Whispers just use bandwidth between two people`
`21:01.29`	`Antiarc`	`By all means, definitely give it a shot if it's a project you're interested in`
`21:01.41`	`Antiarc`	`But I'd caution you to not realisticly expect it to motivate Blizzard to make it easier to do.`
`21:01.48`	`Ordog`	`hi which addon enables me to make the minimap� sqaure`
`21:01.51`	`Ordog`	`square`
`21:01.56`	`Antiarc`	`simpleMinimap`
`21:02.00`	`Antiarc`	`or squeenix`
`21:02.00`	`Daemona`	`error in babble-fish -> http://ace.pastey.net/4858`
`21:02.40`	`djspark`	`Antiarc: if I take on writing mods I'll try to focus more on things that'll help the greater good rather than try to push the goliath blizz in any direction`
`21:02.50`	`notMusic`	`Kinda of off topic question, but does anyone here play WoW US from a different country than the allowed ones?`
`21:03.20`	`\|Kev\|`	`I used to from the UK`
`21:03.22`	`NeoTron`	`I played it from Sweden when I was there on vacation...`
`21:03.27`	`vhaarr`	`Daemona: Let me fix that.`
`21:03.31`	`\|Kev\|`	`then raiding MC until 8am got old quite fast and I rerolled`
`21:03.44`	`djspark`	`notMusic: I played from Ecuador for a year`
`21:03.54`	`notMusic`	`Yeah, I know you can, I've been playing from Uruguay since release`
`21:04.06`	`notMusic`	`But I read about a ToS change, I hope they don't enforce it`
`21:04.31`	`Eternally777`	`What ToS change? I must've missed something.`
`21:04.34`	`djspark`	`me too, because I've reserved 27 copies of the expansion for my guild members in ecuador :-(`
`21:04.44`	`notMusic`	`http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?pid=275551`
`21:05.05`	`notMusic`	`I reserved one too :\`
`21:05.17`	`Forsight`	`??`
`21:05.21`	`notMusic`	`And I honestly can't believe they'd let me beta test their game, and then not let me play :p`
`21:05.34`	`djspark`	`lol`
`21:05.47`	`*** join/#wowace Nappy (n=chatzill@pD9FFF2DF.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`21:06.06`	`notMusic`	`"You represent that you reside in the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, or Singapore, and that you are an adult in your country of residence. You agree to these Terms of Use on behalf of yourself and, at your discretion, for one (1) minor child for whom you are a parent or guardian and whom you have authorized to use the account you create on the Service. "`
`21:06.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`as far as that goes, they can and would. you didn't need an active account to play in beta, but you'll need one for the expansion :P`
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`21:06.21`	`Quetzi`	`most likely just a cause to help ban the gold farming machine`
`21:06.25`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24548 10Babble-2.2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Babble-2.2: Add svn:eol-style to Ore, Fish and Herbs, and fix comma bug.`
`21:06.29`	`djspark`	`I know of very large cybe cafe's in ecuador that host over 100 accounts for people to come in and pay to play them... and since they all speak spanish they never get into TOS trouble`
`21:06.30`	`vhaarr`	`Daemona: Fixed.`
`21:06.31`	`Quetzi`	`s/cause/clause`
`21:06.42`	`abyssichate`	`Does any suggest a nice aggro alerting addon?`
`21:06.47`	`abyssichate`	`*anyone`
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`21:06.48`	`durcyn`	`Banzai Alert`
`21:06.49`	`Ordog`	`uhm does somebody got a copy of squeenix?`
`21:06.53`	`notMusic`	`Gold farming machines share accounts, they wouldn't need this really`
`21:06.59`	`Forsight`	`lol`
`21:07.17`	`abyssichate`	`thanks`
`21:07.26`	`Antiarc`	`I have guildmates in England :(`
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`21:07.52`	`Thorgard`	`I got a guildmate in Chile.`
`21:08.00`	`notMusic`	`I hope it's just a bluff they won't enforce to keep the anti gold farming forum trolls happy`
`21:08.15`	`Forsight`	`havent they always had this type of stuff`
`21:08.20`	`Forsight`	`yet they still let them all play`
`21:08.23`	`\|Kev\|`	`yes`
`21:08.31`	`\|Kev\|`	`you had to be US right from beta`
`21:08.45`	`\|Kev\|`	`I could still play`
`21:08.47`	`snurre-`	`i wouldnt be surprised if Vivendi somehow owns ige`
`21:08.47`	`snurre-`	`:p`
`21:08.49`	`kergoth`	`cheezits = happiness`
`21:09.38`	`kenlyric\|work`	`snurre-: of course they do.`
`21:09.40`	`Daemona`	`vhaarr i gonna take you by your word and check that ;)`
`21:10.32`	`kenlyric\|work`	`they lose aboslutely nothing when they shut down goldfarmer accounts.`
`21:10.32`	`durcyn`	`snurre-: no, if they did, gold prices would be going up, not down.`
`21:10.34`	`Rashomon`	`Is there any reason to use both PeriodicTable and PeriodicTable-2.0 ?`
`21:11.05`	`kergoth`	`"use"?`
`21:11.06`	`Daemona`	`if they really banned players from outside us for us-realms.... get a root server in us with unlimited traffic and install open-vpn ^^`
`21:11.41`	`durcyn`	`Rashomon: the "-2.0" version only includes InstanceLoot, not any of the old tradeskills or sets`
`21:11.42`	`Rashomon`	`kergoth: As libraries, do I have to use them both in my big setup of Ace addons?`
`21:11.47`	`Industrial`	`is there any reason to use 2 tv sets to watch the same channel?`
`21:11.52`	`kergoth`	`i still dont see what you mean.`
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`21:12.07`	`kergoth`	`if an addon you have needs -2.0, and anothera ddon uses the old version, then certainly, you'd need both`
`21:12.11`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Industrial: sure.`
`21:12.13`	`djspark`	`yeah, except connections in south america are crap as it is, adding a vpn connection to the mix would just take a 600ms response time to 800ms`
`21:12.15`	`kergoth`	`if that isnt the case, then no`
`21:12.26`	`notMusic`	`Yeah, I'd VPN it for sure :P And buy game cards`
`21:12.34`	`dudevon`	`i take it wowace.com is being hammered right now pretty badly?`
`21:12.46`	`Rashomon`	`kergoth: Well, I think durcyn answered my question, they complete each other it would seem`
`21:12.47`	`notMusic`	`I don't mind that djspark, it's not like I can silence scorch mages right now or anything :(`
`21:12.56`	`Eternally777`	`Hmm, I can't believe people don't understand why the current version of TBC beta won't be compatible with live servers on the release date...`
`21:13.25`	`djspark`	`yeah, I know a lot of people that are well acustomed to playing with huge lag, everyday, and still pwn`
`21:13.52`	`Thorgard`	`Eesh.. I hate seeing all these 'fan updates'. :/`
`21:14.04`	`Industrial`	`I hate that ithey are allowed to be uploaded`
`21:14.08`	`kergoth`	`Rashomon: which is irrelevent. what libs you need isa function of what addons you have using them. completing each other or no, if nothing uses -2.0, you dont need 2.0.`
`21:14.25`	`kergoth`	`also, pt 2.0 isnt just instanceloot, the core still contains the core data sets, foods and such`
`21:14.38`	`Forsight`	`blizzard SHOULD have made TBC a PATCH, so everyones got the version now.. that way u can just buy the KEY online`
`21:14.44`	`JoshBorke`	`bb all`
`21:14.44`	`Forsight`	`would make it soo much faster`
`21:14.53`	`Antiarc`	`Thorgard: ?`
`21:15.04`	`shieldb`	`Forsight, that'd be cool but I imagine vivendi would get upset at it`
`21:15.14`	`Forsight`	`vivendi ?`
`21:15.18`	`Rashomon`	`kergoth: allright. Well, I don't have the time to go through all my addon files to see what they need or not so I'll use them both, just to be sure ;) Thanks for helping out!`
`21:15.20`	`Industrial`	`Antiarc: when unrelated people upload 'fixed' versions of addons to the sites`
`21:15.20`	`Trancer`	`Forsight: if they did that, how would they sell Extended Editions eh?`
`21:15.21`	`Thorgard`	`Antiarc, all these mods on UI sites getting uploaded with only .toc file changes and 'fan update' appended to the title. ;P`
`21:15.24`	`Elkano`	`Eternally777, it's a) missing some files (eg intro) and b) most likely a bit different wrt error catching and such`
`21:15.27`	`kergoth`	`hmm`
`21:15.38`	`Industrial`	`Antiarc: for the new patch.`
`21:15.40`	`Eternally777`	`Elkano: I think you misread what I said :-P`
`21:15.48`	`Kanly`	`if blizzard made tbc a download only, they'd piss off the brick and mortars`
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`21:15.56`	`Forsight`	`like i sayd Trancer, u download the Extension.. and pay for the key`
`21:15.58`	`Industrial`	`Antiarc: just so all the other users can get their addon-crack-shot earlier`
`21:16.01`	`Forsight`	`online`
`21:16.03`	`notMusic`	`Imagine trying to download the expansion`
`21:16.05`	`notMusic`	`On release date`
`21:16.06`	`Antiarc`	`Ahhh, yes.`
`21:16.10`	`Antiarc`	`I can certainly see that :/`
`21:16.11`	`Eternally777`	`People crying because they actually have to buy it.`
`21:16.17`	`Slade`	`EQ released all expansions in the store and online`
`21:16.17`	`Matrix110`	`notMusicwhere should be the problem with that?`
`21:16.17`	`snurre-`	`wee, Band.Of.Brothers.DVDrip-wubScT finished`
`21:16.19`	`snurre-`	`<3 <3 <3`
`21:16.21`	`Antiarc`	`I will release my addons when the new version is ready, dammitall! :P`
`21:16.22`	`Forsight`	`notMusic look how they do it now, BitTorrent...`
`21:16.23`	`Trancer`	`Forsight: and how do you ge tthe books and cardgame or so associated with the EE?`
`21:16.26`	`Kanly`	`not all of them`
`21:16.26`	`Industrial`	`notMusic: bittorrent is your friend`
`21:16.28`	`kenlyric\|work`	`notMusic, not all of us have sucky connections.`
`21:16.31`	`Trancer`	`Forsight: that method might seem easy for you`
`21:16.34`	`notMusic`	`Hahaha <3`
`21:16.35`	`Trancer`	`Forsight: it is not very $$$ for them ;)`
`21:16.36`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I got the 2.0 patch in a couple minutes.`
`21:16.39`	`notMusic`	`Good point :P`
`21:16.39`	`Matrix110`	`Blizzard has VERY low traffic tbh with all Patches`
`21:16.42`	`Trancer`	`Forsight: this pays of much better.`
`21:16.51`	`Kanly`	`eq didn't start having full download expansions until ykesha`
`21:16.52`	`Forsight`	`if u want the card game go out and buy it;p`
`21:16.57`	`Matrix110`	`they just have their HTTP serving a bit but most is done by other users`
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`21:17.01`	`Kanly`	`before that you still had to have some form of cd key`
`21:17.05`	`Industrial`	`jeez this channel is grown so large i cant even have a normal conversation anymore. this is like 4 conversations at a time`
`21:17.09`	`Industrial`	`im out again`
`21:17.09`	`Elkano`	`snurre-, nothing I'd download ^^ looking at the tin box ^^`
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`21:17.12`	`kenlyric\|work`	`they don't download because vivendi makes money off collateral sales and store kickbacks by going retail.`
`21:17.16`	`Thorgard`	`Eternally777, I thought people were crying 'cause they couldn't just get the cd-key emailed to them from cd-key stores and play directly with the beta client and instead have to wait for the physical disc to install it again.`
`21:17.18`	`kergoth`	`hehe, poor indy`
`21:17.23`	`kenlyric\|work`	`heh.`
`21:17.23`	`snurre-`	`Elkano: hehe, have it too, just in another country :(`
`21:17.27`	`snurre-`	`and i had to see it again`
`21:17.32`	`snurre-`	`best show ever made`
`21:17.35`	`Forsight`	`whelp`
`21:17.36`	`thalie`	`it's because someone keeps posting about the irc channel on the wowace.com page ;)`
`21:17.36`	`kenlyric\|work`	`that's the mark of a seasoned IRCer... carrying on four conversations at once.`
`21:17.40`	`Forsight`	`time to go pvp for my weapons`
`21:17.41`	`Eternally777`	`Thorgard: That too.`
`21:17.42`	`Forsight`	`crys`
`21:17.51`	`Kanly`	`it'd be quite easy to patch expansion, just do like 150 megs a week for the stuff that isn't going to change, like art, and then the final code change in one big patch on the day it goes live`
`21:18.00`	`kergoth`	`kenlyric\|work: only 4? 4 in this channel and a fwe in other cahnnels too, more likely :)`
`21:18.01`	`Kanly`	`but that'd piss off places like gamestop`
`21:18.10`	`kenlyric\|work`	`kergoth: right.`
`21:18.15`	`kenlyric\|work`	`plus jabber for work.`
`21:18.16`	`snurre-`	`currahee! afk`
`21:18.22`	`Forsight`	`be back later guys!`
`21:18.22`	`kenlyric\|work`	`OH, and wow, And the rest of my work.`
`21:18.44`	`kergoth`	`irc is such a collossal timesink`
`21:19.00`	`Elkano`	`well, wow can be bought 100% online by now iirc so tbc will most likely follow`
`21:19.00`	`Kanly`	`makes the day go by when there's nothing else to do`
`21:19.11`	`Kanly`	`at some point, yes`
`21:19.23`	`Kanly`	`and they'll also merge it into one product so you don't need wow classic as well as tbc`
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`21:19.33`	`kergoth`	`Kanly: indeed.. course irc can also suck your attention from things you're supposed to be doing`
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`21:19.47`	`odt`	`argh, agUF has somehow lost it's textures`
`21:19.47`	`Kanly`	`only when you're busy fighting with someone!`
`21:19.49`	`kenlyric\|work`	`kergoth: perish the thought.`
`21:20.18`	`Daemona`	`Eternally777 uhm a guildmate currently plays with latest beta on the live realms, he did some realmlist.wtf fiddling i think.`
`21:20.35`	`Thorgard`	`agUF's combo points indicator went AWOL on me.`
`21:20.41`	`Kanly`	`im still kind of annoyed that the expansion is 40 bucks, that's blizzard making bank on their name and rep`
`21:21.00`	`Antiarc`	`blizzard's making bank on the fact that they run the most successful MMO in the world right now :P`
`21:21.02`	`Eternally777`	`Kanly: You think they'd do it for free?`
`21:21.12`	`Kanly`	`no, but id rather see a price closer to 30`
`21:21.20`	`Thorgard`	`I think $40's reasonable. ;P`
`21:21.22`	`snurre-`	`Antiarc: anyone would`
`21:21.27`	`Antiarc`	`Of course.`
`21:21.32`	`Kanly`	`keep in mind, im an old eq gamer`
`21:21.39`	`Kanly`	`we never paid 40 bucks for an xpac`
`21:21.40`	`Thorgard`	`Kanly, you're jaded.`
`21:21.40`	`durcyn`	`vivendi is making money, not so much blizzard`
`21:21.41`	`Thorgard`	`;P`
`21:21.46`	`mjc`	`eq sucked, eq's xpacks sucked`
`21:21.46`	`Kanly`	`or at least before i quit we didn't`
`21:21.57`	`mjc`	`so they charged what they could get away with`
`21:22.00`	`mjc`	`insteado f what it was worth`
`21:22.03`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I don't even pay $40 for real games.`
`21:22.06`	`Kanly`	`hey, eq was the best mmo on the market for it's time`
`21:22.24`	`Kanly`	`6 years from now folks will be in an irc channel somewhere playing a new game talking about how much wow sucked`
`21:22.44`	`kenlyric\|work`	`um, people are on an IRC channel NOW talking about how much wow sucks.`
`21:22.58`	`Kanly`	`yes, but they're not doing it in a paste tense`
`21:23.02`	`Kanly`	`*past`
`21:23.06`	`kergoth`	`_everything_ sucks`
`21:23.09`	`kergoth`	`its just a matter of degree.`
`21:23.15`	`kenlyric\|work`	`water sucks, it really really sucks.`
`21:23.22`	`ravagernl`	`odt: check surfaces`
`21:23.33`	`Matrix110`	`Water owns Oo`
`21:23.34`	`Elkano`	`kergoth sucks... hockers do it better but... well... ;)`
`21:23.45`	`Matrix110`	`<3 my Water Elemental`
`21:24.07`	`kergoth`	`kenlyric\|work: gaaaatorade`
`21:24.07`	`mjc`	`kergoth sucks less than everoyne else`
`21:24.16`	`Elkano`	`hockers? hookers...`
`21:24.32`	`Jakobud`	`lol Kruul is rampaging Orgrimmar on Kel'Thuzad server`
`21:24.39`	`Adirelle`	`lol`
`21:24.48`	`thalie`	`ahahha`
`21:24.50`	`Adirelle`	`they take its leash away ?*`
`21:24.57`	`odt`	`it has no leash`
`21:24.58`	`Thorgard`	`As long as WoW's got armor for female night elves/blood elves that looks like skimpy bikinis I'm good.`
`21:24.59`	`thalie`	`btw i love that blizz lowered the epic mount cost... ;)`
`21:25.04`	`Matrix110`	`Kaelten :-(`
`21:25.12`	`shieldb`	`thalie, yeah, but they raised the training cost`
`21:25.16`	`Laric`	`nice trying to raid in the new patch.. a bit tricky to remove or promote anyone in the raid...`
`21:25.21`	`thalie`	`no, they just lowered it in the last patch`
`21:25.27`	`kenlyric\|work`	`thalie: yes. I"m 4 wsg tokens away from my epic mount.`
`21:25.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`shieldb: no, the training cost is 540g with honored as of 2.0.3`
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`21:25.45`	`kenlyric\|work`	`shieldb: I think he means they lowered riding skill cost.`
`21:25.48`	`Daemona`	`pfff we havent had a single kruul spawn in 10 hours since the servers in europe went live on eu-destromath ;)`
`21:25.51`	`thalie`	`yeah that is what i meant ken`
`21:25.58`	`Matrix110`	`i got my nice old epic horse<3`
`21:26.02`	`kenlyric\|work`	`900g to 600g.`
`21:26.09`	`kenlyric\|work`	`horse, ewww.`
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`21:26.14`	`sylvanaar`	`what does pet action bar have to do with chat?`
`21:26.20`	`Sole`	`yo`
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`21:26.35`	`Sole`	`wtfizzle, why the hell are people hammering the ace server on a minor patch!?`
`21:26.38`	`odt`	`sylvanaar: wondering the same`
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`21:26.44`	`Sole`	`everything still works`
`21:26.45`	`sylvanaar`	`OMFG why is it there@!??`
`21:26.49`	`sylvanaar`	`seriously`
`21:26.54`	`Matrix110`	`Sole because people forgot the Load out of Dates button:P`
`21:26.55`	`Sole`	`hit it`
`21:26.56`	`djspark`	`hopefully in 6 years we'll have games that have more detail then the cinamatics today`
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`21:26.59`	`sylvanaar`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62188847&sid=1&pageNo=1http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62188847&sid=1&pageNo=1`
`21:27.02`	`sylvanaar`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62188847&sid=1&pageNo=1`
`21:27.04`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Sole: everyone always hammers on a patch that updates the TOC`
`21:27.05`	`thalie`	`matrix: ty - i was going to say the same thing`
`21:27.20`	`kenlyric\|work`	`updating the TOC: patches no work.`
`21:27.26`	`kenlyric\|work`	`errr, mods no work.`
`21:27.48`	`[dRaCo]`	`I'm still wondering why click2cast doesn't work with my default party frames...`
`21:27.54`	`Sole`	`so basicly the majority of people playing WoW are blind and are stupid fuckheads who bring down servers coz they're too blind to hit 1 freekin huge checkbox`
`21:28.01`	`thalie`	`basically.`
`21:28.04`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Sole.`
`21:28.15`	`Kanly`	`dj - im not so sure i'd be in favor of that. If there's one issue i take with console games today as opposed to those of yesteryear, it's that they're all nice and pretty... but the game itself either a) sucks or b) is too short`
`21:28.19`	`durcyn`	`man, if the whole world knew how to use sed, i'd be out of a job.`
`21:28.23`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Sole: Most people don't even know about that checkbox.`
`21:28.25`	`sylvanaar`	`purl: Pet Action Bar tainting is of interest to chat mods`
`21:28.27`	`purl`	`ACTION reaches over and pets Action Bar tainting is of interest to chat mods on the head, saying "There, there! It'll all be ok!"`
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`21:28.58`	`sylvanaar`	`purl: forget that`
`21:28.58`	`purl`	`i didn't have anything called 'that' to forget, sylvanaar`
`21:29.08`	`sylvanaar`	`you suck`
`21:29.08`	`Sole`	`snap`
`21:29.19`	`Sole`	`stupid bot`
`21:29.20`	`djspark`	`Kanly: yes, but the difference between wow of today and it's counterpart in 6 year is going to be mostly detail of textures, etc... that trailer they made for BC is the same lore/quests/etc only in enhanced detail`
`21:29.28`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`purl > sylvanaar? :P`
`21:29.31`	`NeoTron`	`I found that this patch has broken a surprising number of addons, minor or not`
`21:29.31`	`thalie`	`purl, you suck`
`21:29.32`	`purl`	`no, you suck!`
`21:29.49`	`kenlyric\|work`	`NeoTron: not a single one my mods has had to be updated.`
`21:29.53`	`Matrix110`	`the patch broke 0 of 131 addons for me!`
`21:29.53`	`thalie`	`it broke musicstream`
`21:30.00`	`Barbanus`	`sylvanaar, you mentioned a week ago you wanted to know if anyone got a petbar taint notice from prat`
`21:30.01`	`sylvanaar`	`purl: PAB is important to chat mods`
`21:30.02`	`purl`	`okay, sylvanaar`
`21:30.03`	`Sole`	`All my addons work`
`21:30.05`	`Barbanus`	`my friend did last night`
`21:30.06`	`kenlyric\|work`	`heyfu is throwing an error, but it's not major.`
`21:30.20`	`sylvanaar`	`Purl: PAB is also http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62188847&sid=1&pageNo=1`
`21:30.22`	`purl`	`okay, sylvanaar`
`21:30.36`	`NeoTron`	`I definitely got an assortment of errors popping up`
`21:30.52`	`Kanly`	`dj - hopefully, we'll see. Everyone always thinks the current tech sucks and it'll be better in the future... I look at old eq screenshots and I think 'how the hell did I play that crap for so long?'`
`21:31.06`	`Kanly`	`so when the future finally gets here, it's not up to our standards anymore`
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`21:31.25`	`NeoTron`	`besides regardless of whether or not it's needed, people often use patches as an opportunity to update mods in general I would guess`
`21:31.27`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I don't know. Final Fantasy 4 is still beautiful after 15 years. Though, a lot of that is the music.`
`21:31.30`	`sylvanaar`	`thre is a someone at the end of that thread who posted 2 attributes you can set on tht PAB and it wont get tainted`
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`21:31.45`	`Kanly`	`a classic is a classic`
`21:31.51`	`djspark`	`Kanly: I said the same thing about UO, but just went and activated my account a few months ago to see how things were back in the 2d days`
`21:32.19`	`Kanly`	`i almost went and reactivated my eq account when they started their classic server stuff`
`21:32.48`	`odt`	`sorrentimers somehow steals agUF's textures...`
`21:32.52`	`Kanly`	`but then I realized I'd have to play through luclin again, and figured that was probably not a good thing`
`21:33.03`	`sylvanaar`	`PetActionBarFrame:SetAttribute("unit", "pet")`
`21:33.03`	`sylvanaar`	`RegisterUnitWatch(PetActionBarFrame)`
`21:33.13`	ag`	`I've never tried EQ but I think I would be more of an UO/DAoC guy from hearing the descriptions of the games. I'd hate the nazi raiding involved with EQ.`
`21:33.16`	`sylvanaar`	`is that a real workaround`
`21:33.24`	`durcyn`	`odt: SurfaceLib`
`21:33.32`	`Kanly`	`eq raiding is no different than wow raiding`
`21:33.42`	`Kanly`	`hell eq raiding was easier, no consumables to worry about`
`21:33.49`	ag`	`I don't enjoy wow raiding that much either`
`21:33.50`	`odt`	`durcyn: yea, i removed the surface-1.0 that sorrentimers has`
`21:33.54`	`odt`	`but still the same effect`
`21:33.56`	`Matrix110`	`but people had 6 characters healbotting themselves`
`21:33.58`	`Matrix110`	`Oo`
`21:34.03`	ag`	`sylvanaar: why do you need to touch the pet bar anyway?`
`21:34.03`	`kergoth`	`NeoTron: that would be the issue. people's sets are breaking because they havent updated in ages, not as much due to the patch alone. my addon set didnt skip a beat`
`21:34.08`	`shieldb`	`from what I remember from eq raiding, I think almost all the encounters were pure tank and spank encounters`
`21:34.09`	`kenlyric\|work`	`what's a consumable? ;)`
`21:34.15`	`durcyn`	`odt: aguf loads before sorren and provides surface, sorren should still load correctly.`
`21:34.15`	`Thorgard`	ag`,do you know if the combo points for the target frame is broken in agUF or if it's just some local trouble I'm having?
`21:34.23`	`shieldb`	`kenlyric\|work, something you need a lot of for loatheb :P`
`21:34.25`	`Kanly`	`uhm, depends on the era`
`21:34.27`	ag`	`Thorgard: it's probably broken`
`21:34.28`	`sylvanaar`	`because it moves the chat frame`
`21:34.39`	`Daemona`	`hmm whats wrong with latest aguf? casting bar killed combo points?`
`21:34.40`	`odt`	`durcyn: yes, sorren textures display. but why will the one's from agUF vanish`
`21:34.46`	`Kanly`	`up until luclin, that was true, it was mostly tank and spank`
`21:34.47`	`kenlyric\|work`	`shieldb: I couldn't do it. I spent six months refining my play style so I'd never need another mana pot.`
`21:34.50`	`Daemona`	`or didnt i get the latest latest version? ;)`
`21:34.54`	`NeoTron`	`kergoth: I don't recall exactly what addons have broken but I have occasional fubar errors, but mostly it was non-ace addons that had issues`
`21:34.54`	`Kanly`	`luclin had some truly fun boss fights`
`21:34.59`	`durcyn`	`odt: misunderstood what you meant by steal. you don't have surface textures in aguf?`
`21:34.59`	`NeoTron`	`like WIM for example`
`21:35.00`	`sylvanaar`	`i dont touch it, and it gets tainted`
`21:35.01`	`Kanly`	`the rest of the expansion just sucked`
`21:35.04`	`shieldb`	`I stopped playing EQ after I think the second expansion pack (the one before luclin or whatever)`
`21:35.11`	`Kanly`	`velious?`
`21:35.18`	`shieldb`	`that sounds right`
`21:35.20`	`odt`	`durcyn: exactly, aguf just shows numbers with no bg textures`
`21:35.20`	`sylvanaar`	`then people say Prat tainted it`
`21:35.34`	ag`	`sylvanaar: what do you hook into`
`21:35.39`	`durcyn`	`odt: does it stay broken when you change the layout?`
`21:35.39`	ag`	`can't you backtrace it?`
`21:35.42`	`NeoTron`	`sylvanaar: prat says it tainted it`
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`21:35.52`	`sylvanaar`	`goddammit`
`21:35.53`	`shieldb`	`kenlyric\|work, I'm guessing you're not bothering to raid so much, then`
`21:35.57`	`Barbanus`	`sylvanaar, yea, I got a notice last night from prat saying it was tainted.`
`21:36.00`	`NeoTron`	`but that's a known problem fixed in 2.0.4 is it not?`
`21:36.08`	`odt`	`durcyn: only tred changing the textures, and then it was still somewhat broken, ie. no bg colors`
`21:36.13`	`Kanly`	`velious was pretty much tank and spank, but it had lots of stuff to kill`
`21:36.21`	`kenlyric\|work`	`shieldb: well, not now, since I don't have that toon anymore.`
`21:36.21`	`shieldb`	`a lot of the naxx encounters don't have a real good way to do them without consumables unless you've been farming KT for some time and are overgeared`
`21:36.29`	`kenlyric\|work`	`And I was stuck in a guild still slogging its way through AQ.`
`21:36.36`	`sylvanaar`	`I wrote the text. It says that the action bar has been tainted. so that you can use a workaround, and it points you to it`
`21:36.38`	`shieldb`	`ahh`
`21:36.46`	`kenlyric\|work`	`<3 instructor razuvious fight in naxx, but only got to try it once.`
`21:36.56`	`shieldb`	`heigan is a lot of fun`
`21:37.03`	`NeoTron`	`sylvanaar: problem is, the "workaround option" was already enabled, at least for me`
`21:37.04`	`shieldb`	`noth is fun, too`
`21:37.06`	`Kanly`	`until you do it 20 times`
`21:37.10`	`Kanly`	`then heigan is boring as shit`
`21:37.12`	`Daemona`	`kenlyric\|work razuvious suxx if your priests are stupid :/`
`21:37.15`	`sylvanaar`	`Neo - no it wasnt`
`21:37.17`	`durcyn`	`i hate razuvious, stupid casters too dumb to move`
`21:37.17`	`kenlyric\|work`	`instructor is fun for a priest. Trust me.`
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`21:37.25`	`fatbrain`	`any mirrors? :''(`
`21:37.26`	`shieldb`	`yeah none of them are fun to do after about round 10 (or downing him that many times)`
`21:37.31`	`fatbrain`	`(and no, I'm not an addict)`
`21:37.35`	`[Cu]Werik`	`What's the name of that 'technique' when you use, 2,4,8,16 etc numbers for options?`
`21:37.41`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I wanted to do that fight from the moment the thread appeared on the PTR forums :)`
`21:37.42`	`shieldb`	`though c'thun is still a lot of fun when it goes right`
`21:37.54`	`Kanly`	`thaddius was, at the same time, the fight i hated the most and enjoyed the most`
`21:37.57`	`NeoTron`	`never the less, I haven't actually had a problem with the petbar function, regardless of messages`
`21:37.58`	`Stephmw`	`[Cu]Werik: bitvectors`
`21:38.01`	`djspark`	`UO was the example of how bad an ingame economy could go. I remember when you started an account at max level you could farm maybe 50 gold an hour, when the smallest houses were going for 2million gold`
`21:38.04`	`[Cu]Werik`	`thanks`
`21:38.11`	`shieldb`	`yeah thaddius is fun when it goes right`
`21:38.11`	`djspark`	`it was just accepted that you had to buy gold to play`
`21:38.17`	`shieldb`	`it's just frustrating otherwise`
`21:38.26`	`Daemona`	`and i would assume you start with 1 @ werik`
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`21:38.29`	`Kanly`	`and it only takes one charge tard for it to not go right`
`21:38.42`	`[Cu]Werik`	`obviously,2^0 :)`
`21:38.42`	`shieldb`	`same with c'thun and "oops sorry I was too close"`
`21:38.54`	`Kanly`	`eh, c'thun had a little more leeway`
`21:39.04`	`shieldb`	`yeah as long as someone doesn't screw it up on the pull`
`21:39.05`	`durcyn`	`only if you cheesed it with nature potions`
`21:39.09`	`Kanly`	`my major bitch with c'thun was idiots dropping the stomach tents while eye tents were up`
`21:39.15`	`Kanly`	`like, what, are you stupid?`
`21:39.21`	`Stephmw`	`[Cu]Werik: aye - it's a good way to pack boolean values`
`21:39.31`	`djspark`	`that and uo you could store 255 items per container, and store almost unlimited containers`
`21:39.33`	`Kanly`	`fucking TELL us when you're dropping the second tent so we can tell you yes or no`
`21:39.43`	`[Cu]Werik`	`I'm working on a c# application and want to set debuglevels with it.`
`21:39.47`	`kenlyric\|work`	`In my second incarnation, I'm gonna be a goddamn guild hopper. Sticking with people who suck... it sucks.`
`21:39.50`	`[Cu]Werik`	`we will see how it works out`
`21:39.51`	`shieldb`	`I enjoyed heigan in that all the people who were retarded didn't kill the rest of the raid automatically, they just got to die on the dance`
`21:40.00`	`Kanly`	`yup`
`21:40.09`	`Kanly`	`you quickly found out who was actually trying to get better`
`21:40.18`	`kenlyric\|work`	`anything that kills the stupid while protecting the rest of us is a well-designed system.`
`21:40.20`	`Kanly`	`and who was riding on the back of the real raiders`
`21:40.26`	`Daemona`	`Kanly the problem with heigan is lag`
`21:40.38`	`Kanly`	`i never bought into that`
`21:40.42`	`[Ammo]`	`not really`
`21:40.49`	`[Ammo]`	`you just should no rely on following others on heigan`
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`21:40.56`	`[Ammo]`	`if you seem to be 'ahead of the pack' then you're doing good`
`21:40.59`	`shieldb`	`Daemona, you've had issues with lag on heigan? we've got a bunch of people from australia (600ms is a good say for them) and they never have problems`
`21:40.59`	`Kanly`	`the problem with heigan is people aren't proactive`
`21:41.00`	`Kanly`	`exactly`
`21:41.01`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I've always thought the baron in MC was a good example of that. Kills everyone too stupid to get away from the bomb.`
`21:41.02`	`Daemona`	`once lag becomes too big you cant run early enough`
`21:41.07`	`Kanly`	`if youre following someone, you are dead`
`21:41.13`	`Kanly`	`if youre not leading the pack`
`21:41.15`	`Daemona`	`shieldb i use to go between 200 and 1k ;)`
`21:41.16`	`Kanly`	`youre dead`
`21:41.17`	`Daemona`	`sucks`
`21:41.28`	`Daemona`	`depending on daytime`
`21:41.34`	`usz`	`[Cu]Werik, in .net you can set [Flags] attribute for bit field enumerations`
`21:41.35`	`Sole`	`shieldb: Aus/NZ ms is between 300-600 :)`
`21:41.44`	`Kanly`	`heigan is a different animal, truc`
`21:41.47`	`usz`	`[Cu]Werik, I belive thats what you want`
`21:41.50`	`[Cu]Werik`	`hm`
`21:41.51`	`shieldb`	`sole: you play on tich?`
`21:42.01`	`Sole`	`shieldb: blackrock`
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`21:42.05`	`shieldb`	`there's a sole who ran with our guild a bit on there`
`21:42.08`	`Sole`	`shieldb: we're the 2 best servers in BG9 :P`
`21:42.13`	`shieldb`	`woo woo`
`21:42.23`	`Sole`	`you alliance or horde?`
`21:42.25`	`shieldb`	`horde`
`21:42.28`	`Sole`	`BR has a lot of aussies on it`
`21:42.32`	`Sole`	`lol me too`
`21:42.36`	`[Cu]Werik`	`Sounds nice usz`
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`21:43.00`	`durcyn`	`i would reroll horde, but it seems every single 13 year old night elf hunter is going BE next week. blah.`
`21:43.07`	`Sole`	`you're gonna be getting 6 really good players soon shield`
`21:43.13`	`Dementio`	`can someone help me get rid of the buff bar with ag_unitframes?`
`21:43.15`	`Sole`	`6 eminence guys are rerolling horde tich`
`21:43.24`	`sylvanaar`	`people will compain about anything`
`21:43.24`	`durcyn`	`Dementio: /aguf config, set position to hidden`
`21:43.30`	`Sole`	`should roll BR horde IMO and just sell their alliance toons`
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`21:44.14`	`shieldb`	`if I was going to reroll on the same server I'd just buy another copy of wow and transfer my main there to sell instead of just deleting it`
`21:44.26`	`Dementio`	`oh, it was aura, nvm`
`21:44.40`	`Dementio`	`thanks durcyn`
`21:44.44`	`sylvanaar`	`you try to do something helpful - and its the most unrewarding experience - no good deed...`
`21:45.01`	`shieldb`	`I mean if I'm dumping a character anyways I might as well make some money off of it :)`
`21:45.13`	`durcyn`	`sylvanaar: i don't care for your use of that ellipsis, sir!`
`21:45.19`	`Sole`	`shieldb: these guys have been clearing KT for 2 months minimum now, so I would sell it in their position`
`21:45.23`	`Sole`	`they could make a bit`
`21:45.38`	`shieldb`	`oh, definately`
`21:45.44`	`Sole`	`they'll probably go to T A O or something on tich`
`21:45.54`	`Sole`	`theyd go to my guild if they were on BR tho`
`21:45.56`	`shieldb`	`I'd imagine so`
`21:46.04`	`shieldb`	`if they're going for PVP anyways`
`21:46.08`	`Sole`	`yeah`
`21:46.14`	`Sole`	`they just wanna PVP now, done with raiding`
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`21:46.24`	`shieldb`	`that's pretty understandable`
`21:46.36`	`Sole`	`aye, I stopped raiding a year ago also...screw it`
`21:46.38`	`shieldb`	`I wish we had gotten going on naxx sooner, then we'd have time to actually get to KT`
`21:46.46`	`Barbanus`	`sylvanaar indeed`
`21:47.01`	`Sole`	`my guild stopped on 11 bosses down in naxx`
`21:47.13`	`shieldb`	`we've been making decently fast progress but didn't start soon enough to finish it out before tuesday`
`21:47.20`	`Sole`	`=[`
`21:47.22`	`shieldb`	`I think we're at 10 or 11`
`21:47.30`	`Barbanus`	`we got 8`
`21:47.35`	`poptix`	`kel thuzad drops crap loot anyway =P`
`21:47.45`	`Sole`	`the whole guild doesnt wanna raid so its understandable`
`21:47.47`	`KarlThePagan`	`I think I just met the guy from the Southpark wow`
`21:47.49`	`shieldb`	`haha`
`21:47.54`	`poptix`	`except for the trinket you get for dmg against undead/demons`
`21:48.00`	`Sole`	`no point so close to BC`
`21:48.08`	`Barbanus`	`we formed in like sept, spent a month on C'thun meanwhile everyone else skipped him and went into naxx`
`21:48.10`	`KarlThePagan`	`he's like ... a living cliche of a 1998 internet snob`
`21:48.14`	`shieldb`	`poptix, I'll believe you when I get shot for a low amount from a hunter with the KT gun in a battleground :P`
`21:48.19`	`Stephmw`	`hrmph... wow forums are sluggish... "waiting for files to close" on the updater mean something to anyone?`
`21:48.34`	`poptix`	`Stephmw: exit WoW?`
`21:48.38`	`poptix`	`reboot?`
`21:48.52`	`Stephmw`	`poptix: I did all the obvious ones ;-)`
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`21:49.05`	`poptix`	`start the launcher, disable the background downloader, reboot`
`21:49.12`	`Stephmw`	`cheers`
`21:49.38`	`Q6`	`does aguf casting bar for ()target no longer functions?`
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`21:51.25`	`Skew`	`can someone link me XArt please?`
`21:52.33`	`durcyn`	`link...you...xart?`
`21:52.39`	`alcaras`	`http://xart.com/`
`21:53.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`zing?`
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`21:53.14`	`fatbrain`	`What api has change that inables fubar to add its extras onto the main-bar?`
`21:53.24`	`alcaras`	`alternative try googling for "site:wowace.com xart"`
`21:53.24`	`Skew`	`i'd prefer a link to the unitframes addon, if it's not too much trouble`
`21:53.52`	`djspark`	`is 2.0.4 in the wild?`
`21:53.58`	`poptix`	`no`
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`21:55.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`djspark: 2.0.3 is current live version`
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`21:55.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`s/current/the current/`
`21:55.19`	`Holy-Maku`	`howdy`
`21:55.19`	`shieldb`	`djspark, it actually sounds like 2.1.0 will be the next 'major' update since there's a placeholder thread in the ui/macro forums`
`21:55.20`	esoteric`	`hey guys`
`21:55.26`	`nife`	`2.04 will be out in the week probably`
`21:55.31`	esoteric`	`what's up :)`
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`21:55.57`	`shieldb`	`it may not even be that far out since they're looking to roll out the fix to the target lookup issues (requires a client patch) as soon as they can`
`21:56.00`	`nife`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=64246728&pageNo=2&sid=1#38 <-- Trying to fix the raid/group crap`
`21:56.17`	esoteric`	`I assume you guys are using ag_UnitFrames aswell, right?`
`21:56.24`	`Holy-Maku`	`i do`
`21:56.25`	`syeren`	`Finally my domain works :D`
`21:56.27`	`Kanly`	`i thought they said the raid bug didnt require a patch?`
`21:56.32`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`shieldb: that 2.1.0 is the next major content patch version is a given, based on their version scheme thus far.`
`21:56.36`	`syeren`	`Now if anyone needs any webspace, let me know :P`
`21:56.37`	esoteric`	`I have a question regarding them`
`21:56.41`	`syeren`	`Ace Devs only!`
`21:56.51`	esoteric`	`is there someway I can scale the entire UnitFrame?`
`21:56.51`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`but it's more likely they'll push out bugfixes like raid ui/target id issues in a 2.0.4`
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`21:57.07`	`nife`	`no people just mistook what they said. They said they had it fixed internally. I think they meant in the source code interanally`
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`21:57.25`	`djspark`	`from what I understand the biggest problem with wowace.com is php load, not file downloads right?`
`21:57.31`	`Barbanus`	`nife, yes, thats what he meant`
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`21:57.35`	`Barbanus`	`he has it fixed for 2.0.4`
`21:57.43`	`Barbanus`	`~pab`
`21:57.45`	`purl`	`from memory, pab is important to chat mods, or http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62188847&sid=1&pageNo=1`
`21:57.49`	esoteric`	`is there a way to scale the entire ag_UnitFrame? it's terribly small on my screen..`
`21:57.53`	`nife`	`I'm still not gonna hold my breath though`
`21:58.05`	`Holy-Maku`	`yeah`
`21:58.11`	`Kanly`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63887014&sid=1&pageNo=2`
`21:58.13`	`CIA-17`	`03aliset * r24550 10SendSelf/ (Locale-enUS.lua SendSelf.toc sendself.lua):`
`21:58.13`	`CIA-17`	`SendSelf:`
`21:58.13`	`CIA-17`	`- Updates for easier localization`
`21:58.13`	`CIA-17`	`- Not a released version, not enough changes`
`21:58.14`	`Barbanus`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62188847&sid=1&pageNo=1 <= Pet bar issue "I've fixed this for CTMod in WoW 2.0.4"`
`21:58.16`	`Holy-Maku`	`you can do it under all the frame options`
`21:58.17`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r24551 10DrDamage/ (7 files in 2 dirs):`
`21:58.17`	`CIA-17`	`DrDamage:`
`21:58.17`	`CIA-17`	`-Updated most coefficients to 2.0.3 values.`
`21:58.29`	`Kanly`	`yeah, im wrong, they said it does require a patch`
`21:58.30`	`Barbanus`	`So yea, he is fixing stuff for 2.0.4`
`21:58.56`	`alphahawk`	`question id someone can answer. I am trying to get ag unit frames to show my targets health. I have set it up for hp/maxhp and it only shows 100/100`
`21:59.00`	`Barbanus`	`I wish they did more small patches to fix UI stuff`
`21:59.09`	`nife`	`does anyone know if the raid issue affects master looter stuff too ?`
`21:59.10`	`thalie`	`i wish they didn't, they screw up too many addons`
`21:59.12`	`Barbanus`	`I mean its cant be that much code to fix the raid target issue`
`21:59.18`	`Kanly`	`im just wondering how the fuck this bug was missed`
`21:59.18`	`shieldb`	`alphahawk, if you're targeting someone outside of your party you don't know what their real hp is`
`21:59.21`	`shieldb`	`party/raid/etc`
`21:59.32`	esoteric`	`Holy Maku`
`21:59.32`	`shieldb`	`it only knows the % they're at (hence the 100/100)`
`21:59.39`	`poptix`	`Kanly: it was reported on the beta forums, blizzard doesn't read them`
`21:59.42`	`shieldb`	`you can snag something like mobhealth that will estimate it, though`
`21:59.43`	`Barbanus`	`thalie, I'm talking about like major bugfixes, like taining on petbar, screwed up raid, etc`
`21:59.44`	`Kanly`	`lol`
`21:59.51`	`alphahawk`	`ahh thanks shield`
`21:59.54`	`Barbanus`	`stupid group join sound`
`21:59.55`	`Holy-Maku`	`unless you use mobhealth and you hit them or somethin`
`22:00.02`	esoteric`	`HolyMaku, where's the frame options?`
`22:00.02`	`Kanly`	`would be nice if the devs played their own game i guess`
`22:00.05`	`Holy-Maku`	`then it will show the estimated hp/hpmax`
`22:00.05`	`thalie`	`haha`
`22:00.10`	`thalie`	`kanly: so right`
`22:00.15`	`Barbanus`	`stuff that won't break mods, but will sure as hell unbreak them`
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`22:00.20`	`Holy-Maku`	`it in /aguf config`
`22:00.24`	`thalie`	`barbanus: gotcha`
`22:00.24`	`Holy-Maku`	`or something like that`
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`22:01.19`	`shieldb`	`ag has all the config options in /aguf config (brings up a menu) or you can alt right click on a particular frame to edit options for just the frame you clicked on`
`22:01.23`	`Barbanus`	`thalie, do you remember when they screwed up last new years, had a patch that totally fubared something and released a small patch (like under 500k), that fixed whatever the UI issue was?`
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`22:01.35`	`thalie`	`'fraid not`
`22:01.58`	`Barbanus`	`ahh yea, it was some major thing too, and they released it the day after the major patch`
`22:02.21`	`Stephmw`	`poptix: no joy`
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`22:03.08`	`Holy-Maku`	`anybody here play on the realm Gilneas?`
`22:05.22`	`Barbanus`	`Korgath for life!!`
`22:05.37`	`Tular`	`Heya guys`
`22:05.41`	`Holy-Maku`	`Howdy`
`22:05.49`	`Tular`	`man, downloads are slow :/`
`22:05.59`	`pastamancer`	`files mirror: http://grid.13th-floor.org/wowace/ updated hourly`
`22:06.13`	`Barbanus`	`hmmm should I horde my mirror, or share it .. hmmm ... hmmm ....`
`22:06.26`	`Holy-Maku`	`horde it`
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`22:06.40`	`Barbanus`	`I guess hoard is the right way of saying that isnt it? lol`
`22:06.48`	`_neuron_`	`horde works in here :P`
`22:06.49`	`sn0wman`	`aww. gif addons :(`
`22:06.49`	`Kaelten`	`if anyone wants something scary look at the picture on the bottom of http://www.wowace.com`
`22:06.51`	`Holy-Maku`	`i dont know`
`22:06.54`	`ravagernl`	`people I made a new statusbar texture`
`22:06.56`	`Holy-Maku`	`i am just going with the flow`
`22:07.09`	`Kaelten`	`it loads slow though so give it time`
`22:07.30`	`thalie`	`kael: heh i was going to say, what's scary is the loading time`
`22:07.30`	`durcyn`	`Kaelten: bandwidth chart?`
`22:07.37`	`Barbanus`	`This is a scary picture! http://wow.tecnobrat.com/images/familyphoto.gif`
`22:07.38`	`Kaelten`	`server status`
`22:07.43`	`Barbanus`	`:P`
`22:07.49`	`shieldb`	`Kaelten, the image stops loading for me after where it says "Server-Status" :P`
`22:07.50`	`mjc_`	`Barbanus: scary`
`22:07.51`	`waffle`	`gogo 115 requests per second!`
`22:07.57`	`mjc_`	`Kaelten: insanity`
`22:08.22`	`Barbanus`	`mjc_, don't make me send my gnome rogue off on you`
`22:08.30`	`durcyn`	`41KiB png at 820B/s, hmm..`
`22:08.32`	cnc`away	`V for Vendetta is a great movie :)`
`22:08.34`	`ravagernl`	`omg, the text on the main page doesnt even load now`
`22:08.35`	`Antiarc`	`Kaelten: You get my WAU email, and do you have any thoughts regarding it?`
`22:08.40`	`shieldb`	`it doesn't think that the page is done loading but it hasn't loaded any more of the image in the last couple minutes`
`22:08.40`	cnc`away	`g'night all :)`
`22:08.43`	`Barbanus`	`Kaelten, I'll get back to you on that when it loads, lol`
`22:08.48`	`Barbanus`	gnight cnc`away
`22:09.02`	`Kaelten`	`reload I just updated the link to being a higher speed mirror`
`22:09.31`	`Antiarc`	`Yeeeesh.`
`22:09.32`	`shieldb`	`now it's just struggling with loading the HTML :P`
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`22:09.36`	`Antiarc`	`That's a lot of bands in the width.`
`22:09.39`	`shieldb`	`"Noe: to all the peop"`
`22:09.54`	`[Liq]`	`I play WoW with a touch screen. Therefor I'm the best PvP player !!! (Note Damage is scaled with how hard I punch my screen)`
`22:09.55`	`shieldb`	`ooop, there it goes`
`22:09.56`	`thalie`	`jesus`
`22:09.59`	`Holy-Maku`	`lol`
`22:10.00`	`thalie`	`that is insane, kael`
`22:10.00`	`Holy-Maku`	`nice`
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`22:10.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`whats with all the writes`
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`22:11.24`	`dotted`	`Kaelten that only shows that Ace addons are popular, which is good :p`
`22:11.25`	`Antiarc`	`Logs, likely?`
`22:11.55`	`dotted`	`bah curse wont let me login :(`
`22:12.17`	`Barbanus`	`Kaelten, ouch`
`22:12.30`	`shieldb`	`oh, Antiarc: any chance of a fix on the sanity2 tags issue? :)`
`22:12.40`	`Antiarc`	`shieldb: Which tags issue?`
`22:12.45`	`Antiarc`	`(Yes, if I can ID it! :D)`
`22:13.03`	`shieldb`	`every time I add or remove a tag from an item that has a partial stack and at least one full stack`
`22:13.13`	`shieldb`	`i.e. 115 thorium bars in 5 full stacks and one partial`
`22:13.22`	`shieldb`	`it adds the amount of all full stacks to the totals`
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`22:13.35`	`shieldb`	`so if I tag my 115 thorium bars it says I now have 215`
`22:13.40`	`shieldb`	`if I remove the tag then now I have 315`
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`22:14.23`	`Holy-Maku`	`has anybody else had a problem with squeenix since last night?`
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`22:15.03`	`shieldb`	`I haven't checked to see if it also happens with categories in addition to tags`
`22:15.13`	`Antiarc`	`shieldb: Which revision?`
`22:15.20`	`Antiarc`	`I commited changes last night that might have accidentally fixed that.`
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`22:17.20`	`shieldb`	`the last several versions up on wowace.com/files`
`22:17.27`	`shieldb`	`haven't tried with the stuff since last night though`
`22:18.14`	`glo`	`what are the best action bars using ace ?`
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`22:18.38`	`nee-lap`	`There's no best, there's personal preference :)`
`22:18.41`	`Ordog`	`bartender ?`
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`22:18.44`	`nee-lap`	`I myself prefer bartender3`
`22:18.48`	`[dRaCo]`	`I'm using bartender3, too`
`22:18.49`	`Antiarc`	`You should give it a go. It fixes counting issues, gives you tooltips for items in your mailbox (Thanks to Bliz for GetInboxItemLink()!), and features heavy performance improvements.`
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`22:19.21`	`Antiarc`	`I basically rewrote the entire model backend to be less stupid about how it does updates, so it's a lot faster now.`
`22:20.00`	`glo`	`bartender3 comparitable to bongos ?`
`22:20.07`	`Antiarc`	`Fairly so, yes`
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`22:20.15`	`Antiarc`	`I was a bongos user, now use BT3, for what that's worth.`
`22:20.25`	`glo`	`I'll give it a try, thanks`
`22:20.35`	`durcyn`	`the new 718 bongos makes my head hurt. blah.`
`22:20.50`	`dotted`	`does anyone know if curse-gaming have an irc channel?`
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`22:20.52`	`[Cu]Werik`	`dotted, login is disabled`
`22:21.08`	`dotted`	`well that was quick`
`22:21.25`	`dotted`	`but still do they?`
`22:21.42`	`[Cu]Werik`	`We do, on Qnet`
`22:21.43`	`glo`	`yeah, bongos has issues with stances and it's irritating me ;)`
`22:22.08`	`dotted`	`[Cu]Werik channel name?`
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`22:22.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`glo: what issues are you having?`
`22:22.20`	`[Cu]Werik`	`#curse-wow`
`22:22.25`	`dotted`	`ahh, thx`
`22:22.33`	`break19`	`so.. whats the point of an actionbar addon? only thing close to one that I use, is autobar`
`22:22.43`	`[dRaCo]`	`more bars!`
`22:22.50`	`[dRaCo]`	`smaller bars`
`22:22.55`	`Kanly`	`size, arrangement, layout`
`22:23.04`	`durcyn`	`and cycircled textures. mmmm.`
`22:23.13`	`Kanly`	`basically being able to use all 120 buttons in whatever way you see fit`
`22:23.23`	`[dRaCo]`	`bars where you have never seen him ;�`
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`22:25.15`	`dotted`	`im still amased that WAU updated Cartographer but failed on Cartographer_Fishing :p`
`22:25.16`	`break19`	`ok, I concede the point... doesnt mean I'll try em.. I'm too used to blizz's defaults.. that, and autobar does a good enough job for what I need :)`
`22:25.32`	`kergoth`	`http://withoutane.com/rants/2007/what-python-looks-like-naked hurts my brain`
`22:25.37`	`break19`	`[Cu]Werik: so.. irc.qnet.com ?`
`22:25.40`	`Kanly`	`blizzards bars just take up too much screen realestate`
`22:25.50`	`dotted`	`break19 irc.quakenet.org`
`22:25.52`	`break19`	`Kanly: ui scaling :)`
`22:25.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`no one's saying you have to use them break19 :)`
`22:25.57`	`break19`	`ohh quakenet :)`
`22:26.01`	`dotted`	`:)`
`22:26.02`	`Kanly`	`even with ui scaling`
`22:26.12`	`break19`	`duhhhh /facepalm`
`22:26.13`	`durcyn`	`i hate those effing gryphons`
`22:26.20`	`Kanly`	`yah`
`22:26.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i like the gryphons. i just dont like the space they take up. :P`
`22:26.46`	`durcyn`	`and yes, i know they can be hidden, thankyouverymuch. turning off that lame paging business is a reason as well`
`22:26.49`	`fud`	`Ouch, kergoth, you made my brain hurt too :(`
`22:27.07`	`Kanly`	`yeah im actually not a fan of paging my bars, i want to see my fucking buttons`
`22:27.16`	`Kanly`	`everything important is bound to something`
`22:27.20`	`durcyn`	`people clicking buttons is bad enough, but having to change pages to see the other buttons to click, wtfo`
`22:27.31`	`durcyn`	`Kanly: Spellbinder for everything`
`22:27.32`	`Antiarc`	`Paging annoys me, especially in PVP when I accidentally page something and can't get it back.`
`22:27.34`	`fud`	`As for action bars... I was spoilt by flexbar/`
`22:27.36`	`kergoth`	`i like paging bar1 while shift/ctrl are down, then using oCD/cooldowntimers2 for cooldown visibility`
`22:27.42`	`Antiarc`	`"What do you mean pressing '2' opens my Alchemy frame?!"`
`22:27.47`	`Kanly`	`yup`
`22:28.06`	`Kanly`	`'great, im dead, but i can make runecloth bolts'`
`22:28.10`	`break19`	`I show all the bars the bliz ui shows.. and have all of them bound.. so... :)`
`22:28.11`	`Fisker-`	`My bugsack writes 179/14???++`
`22:28.12`	`Fisker-`	`is that good?`
`22:28.27`	`break19`	`Fisker-: 0/0 is good :p`
`22:28.37`	`break19`	`anything else means there's bugs`
`22:28.38`	`durcyn`	`i stopped by my old guild's main tank's house on the way to blizzcon last year. i watched him play by crossing his hands and using one to tap the num pad and the other to click things with the mouse`
`22:28.40`	`Antiarc`	`179 errors thrown, 14 of them unique.`
`22:28.58`	`fud`	`Hm, so what does 2/5 mean?`
`22:29.04`	`durcyn`	`i wanted to shoot myself just for having seen it :o`
`22:29.07`	`Fisker-`	`Do recognize the ???`
`22:29.13`	`Fisker-`	`i mean 14000++(rising)`
`22:29.18`	`Fisker-`	`:D`
`22:29.31`	`Fisker-`	`up to 20k now`
`22:29.33`	`Kanly`	`i have a G15 keyboard and I make extensive use of the macros!`
`22:29.36`	`fud`	`Ah, I guess it's the other way round then`
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`22:29.49`	`CrisCrOss`	`woahh, another pathc :(`
`22:29.50`	`CrisCrOss`	`aw man`
`22:29.56`	`Antiarc`	`Has anyone else run into issues with WDB data not being cached properly...again?`
`22:30.03`	`Antiarc`	`Yes, my Cache/WDB/enUS exists.`
`22:30.15`	`durcyn`	`Antiarc: only when the patcher fails to mkdir.. oh.`
`22:30.32`	`Barbanus`	`did they change it again........?`
`22:30.35`	`[dRaCo]`	`tried that repair tool, antiarc?`
`22:30.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`try exiting wow and deleting the wdb files in the folder`
`22:30.44`	`CrisCrOss`	`Is there a ACE chat mod that colours nicks/puts enchants in a small windows makes links copyable...`
`22:30.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`then restarting and exiting again`
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`22:30.57`	`Antiarc`	`I don't know, but Hemlock looks for certain items in your cache when you log in and tries to scan your tradeskills if it's not found`
`22:31.02`	`Mikma`	`CrisCrOss: no there is not ACE chat mod`
`22:31.09`	`Antiarc`	`I keep getting the scan dialog every time I log in, but not on /rl`
`22:31.18`	`Antiarc`	`Which tells me data isn't being saved between sessions, and that scares me.`
`22:31.25`	`durcyn`	`Barbanus: the original 2.0 alpha moved WDB to cache\WDB\<locale>`
`22:31.33`	`durcyn`	`hasn't changed since then`
`22:31.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`Antiarc: try what i just suggested and see if the folders get remade`
`22:31.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`err not folders but files`
`22:32.03`	`Antiarc`	`Arrowmaster: Tried that a couple times actually.`
`22:32.11`	`[dRaCo]`	`have the repair tool recreate the cache`
`22:32.18`	`Antiarc`	`The repair tool doesn't create the cache.`
`22:32.20`	`durcyn`	`Antiarc: is it actually creating the .wdb files?`
`22:32.22`	`Antiarc`	`The client does, as you play.`
`22:32.31`	`kergoth`	`Antiarc: i ran into that caching issue too, wdb files are being created, but half my buttons were blank anyway for somer eason`
`22:32.32`	`Antiarc`	`durcyn: Yeah, though I haven't checked the timestamps.`
`22:32.34`	`[dRaCo]`	`there's an option for that, iirc`
`22:32.37`	`kergoth`	`eventually they seemed to get populated, but it was slow`
`22:32.52`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah, that's the client pulling the data down over the eenteernet.`
`22:32.56`	`Barbanus`	`My files in \Cache\WDB\enUS were updated this morning when I logged out`
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`22:33.06`	`Barbanus`	`so its updating at least for me`
`22:33.08`	`Antiarc`	`I'll dink around with it tonight - just wondering if it was a known issue.`
`22:33.12`	`AKX`	`Chatr updated, if anyone cares`
`22:33.24`	`fud`	`Mikma: Doesn't Prat do some of that...?`
`22:33.27`	`durcyn`	`kergoth: it's stufff like item cache, quest text, all of which is server-side`
`22:33.28`	`Barbanus`	`your cache files might just be corrupted`
`22:33.50`	`Mikma`	`fud: don't know, it's Ace mod`
`22:33.59`	`Mikma`	`AKX: no, we don't`
`22:34.04`	`durcyn`	`Mikma / CrisCrOss : Prat does most of that`
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`22:34.06`	`kergoth`	`durcyn: yeah, i know, it just seems to be taking its time compared to before the 2.0.3 patch hit`
`22:34.30`	`Mikma`	`evil laugh`
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`22:34.41`	`Antiarc`	`All I know is that Blizzard managed to screw the pooch re: cache directories with 2.0`
`22:34.47`	`Antiarc`	`I'm just wondering if they did it again.`
`22:34.58`	`durcyn`	`kergoth: to say nothing of the effing 2.0 patcher failing to make the directory so the client couldn't even write it out. i weep for irvine.`
`22:35.10`	`kergoth`	`:(`
`22:35.28`	`durcyn`	`Antiarc: my .wdb files are timestamped 1:17 AM today, path seems to have not changed`
`22:35.42`	`Antiarc`	`Ok, good to know.`
`22:35.45`	`Antiarc`	`Might be a problem in my code then.`
`22:35.48`	`durcyn`	`Antiarc: are you using some weird Locale?`
`22:35.49`	`Antiarc`	`I'll investigate tonight.`
`22:35.52`	`Antiarc`	`enUS`
`22:36.01`	`durcyn`	`foreign language pack?`
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`22:36.56`	`Antiarc`	`Nope.`
`22:37.11`	`Antiarc`	`Standard old north american Windows XP and WoW.`
`22:37.27`	`Antiarc`	`The most un-english language I speak is Perl. :P`
`22:38.07`	`ravagernl`	`omg, wow crashed when I tried to set my new texture`
`22:38.17`	`Daemona`	`how the hell can .... no i wont say that... autobar broken -> http://ace.pastey.net/4865`
`22:39.07`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`Is there an Ace mod that's equivelent to MonkeyQuest?`
`22:39.17`	`ravagernl`	`lol, I must remember to not save tga images in grayscale.`
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`22:39.25`	`_neuron_`	`EvilGrin\|Win, fubar_questfu`
`22:39.26`	`durcyn`	`EvilGrin\|Win: FuBar_QuestsFu has similar functionality`
`22:39.28`	`Antiarc`	`greyscale should work fine`
`22:39.32`	`_neuron_`	`but monkeyquest is better imo`
`22:39.32`	`Antiarc`	`Are the dimensions powers of 2?`
`22:40.03`	`nadas`	`unless quixote was fixed for 2.0.3, QuestFu doesn't work.. :)`
`22:40.05`	`castdead`	`anything is known yet about the gratuity setowner thing?`
`22:40.19`	`sylvanaar`	`oh that link bit, would have to be massaged it - i was planning enable the generic pattern registry - so you can write you own`
`22:40.20`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r24552 10ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files in 3 dirs):`
`22:40.20`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames`
`22:40.20`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:40.20`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:40.23`	`_neuron_`	`nadas, it got updated not long ago, it's on wowace.com/files`
`22:40.30`	`nadas`	`ah, lovely`
`22:40.41`	`Kemayo`	`nadas: Quixote works in 2.0.3. I didn't have to update anything, though...`
`22:41.09`	`nadas`	`sec, i'll see if everything works as expected now :p`
`22:41.45`	`durcyn`	`castdead: standalone 23539 worked yesterday. check your embeds and make sure they're current.`
`22:41.47`	`Kemayo`	`If you do have problems, let me know. I do like to fix these things, after all...`
`22:41.50`	`ravagernl`	`People, who wants to see a mac style button as a statusbar texture :P`
`22:41.52`	`Antiarc`	`I just had the craziest idea ever.`
`22:42.03`	`Antiarc`	`I'm sitting here VNC'd into a Mac OSX machine to do site testing in Safari`
`22:42.16`	`Antiarc`	`I noticed shadows under the windows, pretty much from a up-top light source`
`22:42.44`	`nadas`	`Kemayo: Error: attempt to compare number with nil, AddOn: Quixote, File: Quixote-1.0.lua, Line: 186, Count: 3`
`22:42.53`	`Antiarc`	`And I thought "wouldn't it be cool if you were to put some light sensors on each edge of the monitor and hook them up so that they computed the direction of the strongest light source in the room and did dropshadows based on that angle?"`
`22:42.57`	`nadas`	`might be caused by questsfu ofc`
`22:42.59`	`Antiarc`	`Tell me that wouldn't be slick as hell.`
`22:43.12`	`break19`	`heh`
`22:43.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Antiarc: that's... totally awesome.`
`22:43.31`	`Daemona`	`nadas strange, my qixote and questfu is fine, though i gotta admit i am using standalone libs`
`22:43.43`	`nadas`	`Daemona: so am i`
`22:43.43`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`stupidly superfluous and probably processor intensive though`
`22:43.47`	`Antiarc`	`patents that so he can sell it to Apple`
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`22:44.02`	`Antiarc`	`It wouldn't be too bad - just a number of sensors hooked up via serial or USB port.`
`22:44.03`	`nadas`	`hmm, what rev is the latest quixote?`
`22:44.15`	`Antiarc`	`You just need light intensity readings for each, and can get a general angle based on that.`
`22:44.26`	`durcyn`	`nadas: 24254`
`22:44.32`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah thats not the hard part, rendering the texture dynamically on the fly like that might be`
`22:44.36`	`Antiarc`	`Heh, yeah.`
`22:44.36`	`nadas`	`yeah, that's the one i have`
`22:44.58`	`Antiarc`	`Though OSX seems to do the blending easily enough. Dunno the specifics of their implementation, but it'd be trivial in a game.`
`22:45.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`cause you -know- people are just going to take a flashlight and shine it around the monitor to watch the shadows move :P`
`22:45.10`	`durcyn`	`Antiarc: I'd lose my mind with the ceiling fan on.`
`22:45.11`	`Antiarc`	`It's a 2D blend, rather than a volumetric or projected shadow.`
`22:45.14`	`Antiarc`	`Hahahaha`
`22:45.16`	`Antiarc`	`Well`
`22:45.21`	`Antiarc`	`The lights are below the ceiling fan`
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`22:45.28`	`Antiarc`	`So they wouldn't strobe, really.`
`22:45.36`	`Dhraga`	`Daemona, Its just the latest beta of Autobar that is broken, download the beta20 and it'll be sorted`
`22:45.48`	`Kemayo`	`nadas: Interesting error.`
`22:45.58`	`nadas`	`Kemayo: :)`
`22:46.00`	`durcyn`	`Antiarc: usually, maybe I have my ceiling fan mounted up side down. You never know.`
`22:46.31`	`Antiarc`	`That's a distinct possibility, but I thought "how would you turn it on?", so I consulted my friend Occam and he said I was probably pretty safe in pointing that out!`
`22:46.34`	`Nappy_`	`a texture option for autobar would be nice (bartender 2 layouts)`
`22:46.34`	`Kemayo`	`nadas: Could you perhaps let me know how many quests you have?`
`22:47.01`	`nadas`	`7`
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`22:47.08`	`nadas`	`on this char`
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`22:47.27`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`_neuron_, monkeyquest seems bugged at the moment, thats why I'm asking. Shows 0/25 quests :S`
`22:47.38`	`renchap`	`svn1 is now resynced :)`
`22:47.42`	`_neuron_`	`EvilGrin\|Win, works for me, it's broke on BC beta though`
`22:47.48`	`_neuron_`	`but 2.5.1 "just" came out, that might work`
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`22:47.59`	`nadas`	`Kemayo: 10 quests on my alt, same error`
`22:48.11`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`_neuron_, 2.5.1 here`
`22:48.33`	`Klazar`	`AutoBar is not showing up on my UI, that is only the little greendot shows, no bar`
`22:48.55`	`Klazar`	`just updated via updater what was avalable`
`22:49.05`	`Barbanus`	`renchap, awesome :)`
`22:49.10`	`Barbanus`	`renchap, what was the cause?`
`22:49.18`	`renchap`	`n \| lmao`
`22:49.18`	`Barbanus`	`renchap, slow dev?`
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`22:49.21`	`renchap`	`oups`
`22:49.33`	`abyssichate`	`Klazar: I've got the same with the latest update`
`22:49.33`	`renchap`	`23:45:05 danderson \| I'm discussing what might have happened to your mirror with other svn devs`
`22:49.36`	`renchap`	`23:45:19 danderson \| and we all agree: it's impossible :)`
`22:49.38`	`renchap`	`from a svn dev`
`22:49.41`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`:P`
`22:49.42`	`renchap`	`so... i dont know`
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`22:49.53`	`Barbanus`	`LOL`
`22:49.59`	`Barbanus`	`did you give them access or something?`
`22:50.25`	`renchap`	`try to find out with them, but nobody understand`
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`22:51.27`	`Dhraga`	`AutoBar Latest version of files is not working, to fix it grab the beta20 version here: http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/3353/autobar-toadkiller/`
`22:52.10`	`Kemayo`	`nadas: As I said, that's interesting. If you could, just before line 186, add the following that might help me out: "if GetNumQuestLeaderBoards(questid) == nil then QuestsFu:Print(q.zone, q.title, q.id) end"`
`22:52.35`	`nadas`	`Kemayo: sure thing, gimme a sec :)`
`22:52.44`	`Klazar`	`Dhraga: thank you`
`22:53.03`	`Dhraga`	`ymw`
`22:53.10`	`CIA-17`	`03gamefaq * r24554 10Baggins/Baggins-deDE.lua: Baggins: Updated deDE Local`
`22:53.43`	`nadas`	`Kemayo: "FuBar - QuestsFu: Unknown Eastern Plaguelands 1"`
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`22:54.12`	`CrisCrOss`	`whos in charge of the StopTheSpam addon`
`22:54.20`	`CrisCrOss`	`or is it a community thing?`
`22:54.27`	`nadas`	`hmm wtf, that doesn't seem right`
`22:54.31`	`Kemayo`	`Huh. Well, I know what the problem is now. I just don't know why it's happening. :D`
`22:54.36`	`CrisCrOss`	`THere are addons that still cuase a load up msg to appear`
`22:54.41`	`nadas`	`looks like a zone header`
`22:55.31`	`Kemayo`	`It is.`
`22:55.32`	`Kemayo`	`What do you get if you type in "/print GetBuildInfo()"?`
`22:55.32`	`nadas`	`it's Extended Quest Log...`
`22:55.32`	`Barbanus`	`FYI MonkeyQuest is also screwed after the patch, so I am pretty sure blizz did something strange`
`22:55.32`	`nadas`	`quixote works fine :)`
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`22:55.45`	`kergoth`	`it isnt strange, they just changed the return values on an api function, no?`
`22:56.12`	`CrisCrOss`	`is it just me or is the code for !StopTheSpam really messy`
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`22:56.25`	`Barbanus`	`kergoth, maybe "strange" is a bad choice of words`
`22:56.33`	`sylvanaar`	`a bit OC`
`22:56.59`	`Tular`	`Is there anyway to move sRaidFrames' position on FuBar?`
`22:57.08`	`Gagorian`	`drag?`
`22:57.10`	`CrisCrOss`	`Tuller in?`
`22:57.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`same way you move any other fubar plugin?`
`22:57.17`	`nadas`	`Kemayo: removing Extended Quest Log fixed the problem so apparently this mod does something nasty to the zoneheaders.. sorry for blaming quixote.. :)`
`22:57.32`	`Kemayo`	`Barbanus: Blizzard changed the returns from GetQuestLogTitle, which breaks any addon that doesn't know about it. (I've had it working for ages, so... :D )`
`22:57.35`	`Barbanus`	`Tular, I reported that a little while ago, for some reason the fubar postion alignment is ... gone...`
`22:57.51`	`Kemayo`	`nadas: I must admit that everything pointed in the direction of Quixote being at fault, so.. :)`
`22:57.59`	`Barbanus`	`Tular means you cant align it left, right, center, etc.`
`22:58.10`	`Tular`	`yeah`
`22:58.12`	`Gagorian`	`dev.wowace.com down?`
`22:58.24`	`Tular`	`bumes me out that its on the left :/`
`22:58.29`	`Barbanus`	`me too :P`
`22:58.29`	`Kemayo`	`I shall have to download EQL and check itout.`
`22:58.50`	`Barbanus`	`Kemayo, heh`
`22:59.02`	`durcyn`	`i tried, but i just couldn't force myself to use sRF over praid.`
`22:59.04`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r24555 10DrDamage/ (6 files in 2 dirs):`
`22:59.04`	`CIA-17`	`DrDamage:`
`22:59.04`	`CIA-17`	`-More coefficient updates.`
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`22:59.45`	`Kemayo`	`Has the 2.0.3 patch hit EU yet?`
`22:59.50`	`nadas`	`yup`
`22:59.54`	`Daemona`	`yes`
`22:59.57`	`Daemona`	`12 hours ago`
`23:00.04`	`Kemayo`	`Cool. I can remove some legacy code from Quixote then.`
`23:00.24`	`Kemayo`	`...and finally rewrite item tooltip handling. :D`
`23:00.32`	`Daemona`	`o.O for 24hours you added code to make quixote idiot proof?`
`23:00.50`	`Kemayo`	`Daemona: Actually, I added the code for the last two months so people in the beta could use it.`
`23:00.58`	`Daemona`	`you got my respect :)`
`23:01.22`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`o_0 Kemayo++;`
`23:01.44`	`Klazar`	`Dhraga: Beta works fine...Thanks!!`
`23:01.55`	`CrisCrOss`	`Is, MountMe going to b updated`
`23:03.05`	`lhunath`	`Is it a known thing that players only appear as soon as you select them, and before they only show up as shadows on the floor?`
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`23:03.28`	`Antiarc`	`That happens when you don't have various data in your local cache files, lhunath`
`23:03.43`	`Antiarc`	`They appear as data gets downloaded from Bliz and cached.`
`23:03.50`	`FatherJim`	`Anyone else having problems with 'addon' directories being 'locked up'?`
`23:04.55`	`Kemayo`	`Oh, awesome, I can switch out the dismounting code in ToFu!`
`23:05.10`	`Kemayo`	`No more scanning buffs for "speed increased by" for me!`
`23:05.26`	`Kemayo`	`(It's the little things that make me happy.)`
`23:05.28`	`lhunath`	`antiarc: any clue on how to resolve that? I remember reading something about creating certain folders in the world of warcraft folder`
`23:05.38`	`Antiarc`	`There should be a Cache folder`
`23:05.42`	`sn0wman`	`lots of talk about quixote, what does the addon do?`
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`23:05.49`	`sn0wman`	`the site is down so i can't see for myself`
`23:05.51`	`CrisCrOss`	`nobody uses StopTheSpam`
`23:05.57`	`Antiarc`	`Create a WDB under that, and under WDB, a locale folder - if you're in enUS, create an enUS folder, for example`
`23:06.01`	`berdan`	`The WoW launcher autocreates those folders now, lhunath`
`23:06.05`	`Ominous`	`CrisCrOss: I do`
`23:06.11`	`durcyn`	`quixote is just a library interface to quest data, sn0wman`
`23:06.20`	`Antiarc`	`I don't get why they don't make the WoW client autocreate them. Maybe they didn't want to patch just for that.`
`23:06.21`	`sn0wman`	`ah`
`23:06.26`	`lhunath`	`hrm, I have an C:\program Files\world of Warcraft\Cache\WDB\enGB folder which is filled with stuff.`
`23:06.26`	`CrisCrOss`	`well have you looked at teh code its all appearance, so i cant make much sense of it`
`23:06.32`	`Antiarc`	`I run wow.exe, so pfeh on Bliz.`
`23:06.36`	`durcyn`	`sn0wman: fun things like questsfu and quecho use it`
`23:06.39`	`CrisCrOss`	`but there are addons that still display startup msgs`
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`23:06.47`	`sn0wman`	`durcyn, i see :), thanks for the fast answer.`
`23:06.48`	`Antiarc`	`lhunath: I've noticed that cache stuff has been acting strangely since 2.0.3 hit`
`23:07.04`	`Antiarc`	`Try quitting WoW, deleting everything in there and starting it again`
`23:07.10`	`lhunath`	`was the same before 2.0.3, let me try deleting that stuff`
`23:07.18`	`CrisCrOss`	`run a repair`
`23:07.22`	`Antiarc`	`It'll lag and be slow and things will be missing when you log in, but if all goes well it should cache and the problem will go away.`
`23:08.53`	`CIA-17`	`03fatherjim * r24556 10loudmouth/ (Locale-enUS.lua loudmouth.lua loudmouth.toc loudmouth.xml):`
`23:08.53`	`CIA-17`	`loudmouth:`
`23:08.53`	`CIA-17`	`- Commit for testing with current multi-quote set support. Doesn't completely work yet, you can edit the Default and view other sets, but not add/edit alternate sets yet.`
`23:08.54`	`*** join/#wowace SquishemHard (n=LiquidEn@66-190-228-211.dhcp.klmt.or.charter.com)`
`23:09.04`	`*** join/#wowace Owner (n=chatzill@c-69-136-237-39.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`23:09.13`	`NeoTron`	`It used to be WoW\WDB but when they moved it to Cache\WDB\[...] the autocreation broke`
`23:09.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`hey tuller i think i found the cause of the ContainerIDToInventoryID errors in vBagnon`
`23:09.44`	`SquishemHard`	`this is hot`
`23:10.03`	`Barbanus`	`the problem is that they made a Cache dir, but then they didnt make a WDB folder in it .. so making the enUS dir automatically failed.... at least that is how it appeared to me`
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`23:10.31`	`SquishemHard`	`I know what happened`
`23:10.35`	`SquishemHard`	`they messed up, pos`
`23:11.07`	`SquishemHard`	`Anyone like C++ better than LUA?`
`23:11.18`	`Tornhoof`	`<--`
`23:11.24`	`bigzero`	`me`
`23:11.32`	`Barbanus`	`gimme ruby!!`
`23:11.40`	`SquishemHard`	`yay`
`23:11.40`	`FatherJim`	`<-- me`
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`23:11.58`	`[dRaCo]`	`I don't really know lua, but c++ seems... better.`
`23:11.59`	`andremar_`	`perl baby, perl!`
`23:12.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yay perl!`
`23:12.10`	`Barbanus`	`ewwww perl`
`23:12.37`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`also, regarding perl: http://xkcd.com/c208.html`
`23:12.37`	`Antiarc`	`They're different tools for different things, really.`
`23:12.40`	`Tornhoof`	`brainfuck ;)`
`23:12.41`	`Antiarc`	`C++ and Lua, that is.`
`23:12.48`	`[dRaCo]`	`definitly`
`23:12.52`	`Dhraga`	`How come Prat gives out a Ace2 warning about my pet action Bar have become tainted, and I should enable the Lock Petbar in the ChatFrame options (but it's already locked)`
`23:13.09`	`Antiarc`	`That's like asking if I like a jackhammer better than a tape measure :P`
`23:13.10`	`Ordog`	`has ANYBODY seen Rexxar postpatch?`
`23:13.12`	`a-stray-cat`	`anyone have the link for where haste moved his stuff to?`
`23:13.17`	`Antiarc`	`Rexxar's in Outland now.`
`23:13.19`	`[Ammo]`	`www.fuxsake.net`
`23:13.24`	`bigzero`	`damn`
`23:13.26`	`Ordog`	`the Quest Ascension states we should find ROKARO`
`23:13.26`	`a-stray-cat`	`thanks`
`23:13.34`	`SquishemHard`	`Can I paste multiline stuff?`
`23:13.35`	`SquishemHard`	`template <typename T>`
`23:13.35`	`SquishemHard`	`T& Array<T>::operator[](int index)`
`23:13.35`	`SquishemHard`	`{`
`23:13.35`	`SquishemHard`	`int max = m_length + m_base;`
`23:13.35`	`SquishemHard`	`if((index < m_base) \|\| (index > max) \|\| !m_length)`
`23:13.35`	`Ordog`	`ony pre`
`23:13.36`	`SquishemHard`	`throw OutOfBounds();`
`23:13.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Last seen in the Blade's Edge mountain?`
`23:13.37`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`s`
`23:13.38`	`SquishemHard`	`return m_data[(m_base * -1) + index];`
`23:13.39`	`[dRaCo]`	`he's come to pwn the demons.`
`23:13.40`	`SquishemHard`	`}`
`23:13.42`	`SquishemHard`	`ohh`
`23:13.43`	`bigzero`	`i still have ony key chain to finish`
`23:13.44`	`Antiarc`	`Must be a replacement NPC`
`23:13.50`	`SquishemHard`	`wtf, i didnt tell it to send~`
`23:13.56`	`*** join/#wowace BoA\|Goril (n=king@cable-static-55-168.intergga.ch)`
`23:13.57`	`Antiarc`	`Hemet Nesingwary has been replaced with his son in STV.`
`23:13.58`	`Ordog`	`ye fine but how can they put rexxar in outland? its a ony prequel`
`23:14.02`	`Ordog`	`damnit`
`23:14.15`	`FatherJim`	`Anyone else having problems with TortoiseSVN and explorer locking up when you attempt to open files?`
`23:14.16`	`Antiarc`	`There's probably a replacement NPC, Ordog`
`23:14.17`	`Barbanus`	`SquishemHard, just use the pastie link in the topic`
`23:14.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah, cause people will care about ony in a week. :)`
`23:14.20`	`Kanly`	`aren't they saying that he's been replaced with anothe rnpc?`
`23:14.23`	`Kanly`	`read your quest log`
`23:14.26`	`Ordog`	`ye but where the fuck is he?`
`23:14.31`	`Ordog`	`yes i wrote a ticket`
`23:14.34`	`Antiarc`	`Probably patrols the same path.`
`23:14.41`	`Ordog`	`that theres rokaro in the quest text`
`23:14.43`	`Antiarc`	`...which is like a billion zones. grin`
`23:14.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`Ordog: shadowmoon village look for a guy named rokaro`
`23:14.49`	`Ordog`	`ye ran that damn patch 30 minutes now`
`23:14.51`	`Tornhoof`	`probably he looks like rexxar`
`23:14.51`	`*** join/#wowace Baraius-Phone (n=pocketir@166.195.82.58)`
`23:14.54`	`Tornhoof`	`has the same pet`
`23:15.00`	`Tornhoof`	`just is named differently`
`23:15.04`	`Ordog`	`hm`
`23:15.05`	`Tornhoof`	`and has some magmadar trailing him`
`23:15.11`	`Tornhoof`	`oh no, that was kruul`
`23:15.17`	`fud`	`Barnabus: <3 ruby <3`
`23:15.22`	`SquishemHard`	`Anyways, I have like 5,138GB of bandwidth and id like to donate some to WowSexAce`
`23:15.33`	`sylvanaar`	`rofl`
`23:15.36`	`*** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=chatzill@ghybel696.krs.hia.no)`
`23:15.36`	`*** mode/#wowace [+v vhaarr] by ChanServ`
`23:15.40`	`sylvanaar`	`_PAB`
`23:15.45`	`sylvanaar`	`~PAB`
`23:15.47`	`purl`	`i guess pab is important to chat mods, or http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62188847&sid=1&pageNo=1`
`23:15.47`	`Ordog`	`Arrowmaster you mean shadow prey?`
`23:15.48`	`CoRP5e`	`so is oCB2 messed up for everyone?`
`23:15.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`Ordog: yeah whatever`
`23:16.01`	`Barbanus`	`sylvanaar, what does PAB stand for?`
`23:16.04`	`Barbanus`	`oh shit`
`23:16.07`	`Barbanus`	`stupid question`
`23:16.09`	`Ordog`	`shadowmoon is in outland again thats why i ask ;P`
`23:16.12`	`Barbanus`	`pet action bar`
`23:16.13`	`Barbanus`	`duh`
`23:16.22`	`[dRaCo]`	`anyone with an idea why Click2Cast doesn't work with my (default blizz) party frames?`
`23:16.30`	`sylvanaar`	`purl: PAB is also the Pet Action Bar`
`23:16.31`	`purl`	`okay, sylvanaar`
`23:16.39`	`sylvanaar`	`~pab`
`23:16.40`	`purl`	`pab is probably important to chat mods, or http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62188847&sid=1&pageNo=1, or the Pet Action Bar`
`23:16.40`	`Barbanus`	`why is it important to chat mods tho? :P`
`23:16.46`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24557 10ag_UnitFrames/ (24 files in 4 dirs):`
`23:16.46`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames: Set svn:eol-style and some keywords so we get a proper .revision`
`23:16.46`	`CIA-17`	`and .version string set, also set AG_UNITFRAMES_VERSION and _REVISION for`
`23:16.46`	`CIA-17`	`BugGrabber since the addon object doesn't match the addon name (ag_UnitFrames`
`23:16.46`	`CIA-17`	`vs. aUF). ag, if you want the version to be "o_O" like it was, please reset it,`
`23:16.46`	`CIA-17`	`but let us keep .revision and .version set to something sane :P`
`23:16.55`	`kergoth`	`haste: suggestion.. pass the name and path of the newly registered texture along when triggering the Surface_Registered event. for addons which keep a list of the textures for their aceoptions, its silly to regenerate a new table with :List() when you could just inject the new one`
`23:16.56`	`sylvanaar`	`~tldr`
`23:17.08`	`vhaarr`	ag` :P
`23:17.32`	`Barbanus`	`sylvanaar, why is it important to chat mods? seems odd to me :P`
`23:17.55`	`CIA-17`	`03sorren * r24558 10CooldownTimers2/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua fubar-plugin.lua):`
`23:17.55`	`CIA-17`	`CooldownTimers2:`
`23:17.55`	`CIA-17`	`- Added announce text.`
`23:17.55`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed an issue with pet skills.`
`23:17.56`	`sylvanaar`	`Barbanus: because look where the frame is`
`23:19.02`	`Barbanus`	`wow, I totally dont get it .. oh well`
`23:19.09`	`SquishemHard`	`is CIA-17 a bot?`
`23:19.15`	`Barbanus`	`SquishemHard, yep`
`23:19.24`	`Barbanus`	`he notifies everyone on svn changes`
`23:19.28`	`kergoth`	`no, its a guy who just types out commit messages, all day every day`
`23:19.30`	`SquishemHard`	`is there a way to like subscribe to those messages or something?`
`23:19.32`	`edv`	`got some problems with ag_uf since i updated today. can't see combopoints with my rogue and the new casting bars disabled the default casting bar which i'm unable to turn on again. can anyone help?`
`23:19.41`	`kergoth`	`SquishemHard: http://cia.navi.cx/`
`23:19.45`	`SquishemHard`	`sweet`
`23:19.47`	`SquishemHard`	`thanks`
`23:19.59`	`lhunath`	`after emptying that cache folder half of the ironforge population now remains halfnaked`
`23:20.23`	`Barbanus`	`lhunath, just be patient`
`23:20.30`	`Barbanus`	`they should get dressed soon`
`23:20.35`	`SquishemHard`	`noooooo`
`23:20.37`	`lhunath`	`heh.`
`23:20.39`	`Barbanus`	`or, you get a good show, for no extra money!`
`23:20.52`	`Goeb`	`what about all the invisible ones? :)`
`23:21.02`	`lhunath`	`looks odd when you have nude patch installed.`
`23:21.06`	`Barbanus`	`lhunath, you just have to wait for the server to update you on stuff, then it should cache it`
`23:21.16`	`SquishemHard`	`My model and lots of textures stayed unloaded until i removed my older version of lootlink`
`23:21.20`	`Barbanus`	`should`
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`23:21.37`	`SquishemHard`	`it also took like 200 errors down to 0`
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`23:22.03`	`kergoth`	`haste: theres also a flaw in the logic in lib:Fetch() wrt the self.global stuff`
`23:22.05`	`nadas`	`hmm, anyone here with commit rights for aguf? :)`
`23:22.10`	`durcyn`	`lhunath: my experience with borked caches mostly involves running as far away from large groups of people as i could before disconnecting. a hundred times.`
`23:23.06`	`kergoth`	`haste: nevermind the last, i'm blind`
`23:23.37`	`FatherJim`	`nude patch?`
`23:23.47`	`SquishemHard`	`where?`
`23:24.05`	`Miles`	`ugh`
`23:24.06`	`sn0wman`	`gonna install that patch when i get my bf chick`
`23:24.15`	`Miles`	`svn update --ignore-externals is taking ages`
`23:25.05`	`mjc_`	`Miles: ctrl-c it and start it over, it might speed up`
`23:25.13`	`Sparhawke`	`yea`
`23:25.20`	`Barbanus`	`lol`
`23:25.21`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24560 10Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/ChatFrames.lua modules/PopupMessage.lua): Prat: More conversation starters`
`23:25.28`	`Sparhawke`	`before I can finish updating all my mods, half of them are updated already lol`
`23:25.39`	`Sparhawke`	`err updated again`
`23:25.39`	`Barbanus`	`is the dumb lfgclick issue gone now for good?`
`23:26.15`	`durcyn`	`c`
`23:26.20`	`durcyn`	`er, ignore that!`
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`23:27.47`	`Frozen-Solid`	`aaaah dont you love patch weeks`
`23:28.00`	`[dRaCo]`	`it's just great.`
`23:28.02`	`Barbanus`	`sure`
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`23:28.15`	`SquishemHard`	`especially since i saw only likee 1 thing in the notes that would break addons`
`23:28.17`	`Fisker-`	`Good night, sweet prince.`
`23:28.21`	`thalie`	`me too fisker`
`23:28.23`	`thalie`	`sad`
`23:28.23`	`SquishemHard`	`even though i know nothing`
`23:28.48`	`Frozen-Solid`	`yeah, but blizz did a damn good job breaking raids last night... anyone else attempt a BWL run?`
`23:28.48`	`thalie`	`i understand why they did it, but it's still sad`
`23:29.03`	`Frozen-Solid`	`razorgore = beyond broken`
`23:29.12`	`Frozen-Solid`	`the entire default raid ui = unusable`
`23:29.24`	`[dRaCo]`	`it has always been total crap`
`23:29.28`	`thalie`	`i heard onyxia's deep breath is a problem again ;)`
`23:29.28`	`SquishemHard`	`yes!`
`23:29.29`	`thalie`	`haha`
`23:29.30`	`Frozen-Solid`	`no. it's worse`
`23:29.30`	`\|Pixel\|`	`well`
`23:29.33`	`\|Pixel\|`	`we don't care that much`
`23:29.36`	`Frozen-Solid`	`you can't even change leadres`
`23:29.37`	`\|Pixel\|`	`we'll BC next week =)`
`23:29.45`	`Frozen-Solid`	`if you set X person as leader it pics random Y person to be leader`
`23:29.52`	`[dRaCo]`	`lol`
`23:29.58`	`SquishemHard`	`sweet`
`23:30.00`	`Frozen-Solid`	`if you set assists, it sets a random someone else as assist instead`
`23:30.07`	`Frozen-Solid`	`it was awesome`
`23:30.16`	`Frozen-Solid`	`in razorgore, the mobs ran away at the start of phase 2 as usual`
`23:30.20`	`Goeb`	`To help users with dual core processors, a new timing method was introduced.`
`23:30.21`	`Frozen-Solid`	`but they DIDN'T STOP SPAWNING`
`23:30.26`	`Barbanus`	`I heard onyxia deep breaths 10 times as much now`
`23:30.26`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24561 10Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/PopupMessage.lua): Prat: typo`
`23:30.37`	`Frozen-Solid`	`so we're trying to down razorgore and crowd control 50 mobs during phase 2 razorgore`
`23:30.39`	`Goeb`	`of course, it actually slows down your framerate to 1/10th what it was pre-2.0.3`
`23:30.44`	`Frozen-Solid`	`he dies, and they KEEP SPAWNING! LOL`
`23:30.57`	`thalie`	`ahaha barbanus`
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`23:31.03`	`SquishemHard`	`omg`
`23:31.11`	`SquishemHard`	`xp farming extraordinare!`
`23:31.13`	`[dRaCo]`	`and we just got our raid to stage one or two raids before tbc :/`
`23:31.13`	`Frozen-Solid`	`Barbanus: i have'nt run ony in MONTHS lol`
`23:31.24`	`Barbanus`	`Frozen-Solid you guys are noobs`
`23:31.27`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r24562 10ag_UnitFrames/libs/:`
`23:31.27`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames`
`23:31.27`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:31.28`	`Barbanus`	`kite to vaels room`
`23:31.29`	`Barbanus`	`and aoe`
`23:31.35`	`thalie`	`DI razorgore`
`23:31.44`	`anenigma`	`Frozen-Solid: ony is good gold farming money. regardless, Barbanus is just spewing the usual "mog ony does more DBs" that comes with every patch`
`23:31.46`	`nadas`	ag`: you around? :)
`23:32.02`	`Barbanus`	`http://wow.tecnobrat.com/images/strategy/ = leet way to kill ouro`
`23:32.10`	`SquishemHard`	`5 manning world bosses is good gold farming`
`23:32.11`	ag`	`nadas: yes`
`23:32.14`	`Frozen-Solid`	`barb: wtf are you talking about`
`23:32.18`	`Barbanus`	`anenigma, I sure am!`
`23:32.33`	`Frozen-Solid`	`kiting to vael's room does no good when they don't STOP spawning in phase 2`
`23:32.37`	ag`	`kergoth: go ahead and release it`
`23:32.44`	`Barbanus`	`Frozen-Solid, omg you weren't in BWL then I assume...`
`23:32.46`	`Frozen-Solid`	`you have to kill razorgore and WIPE in order to stop the spawns`
`23:32.54`	`Frozen-Solid`	`yes. yes i was barb. i'm not stupid`
`23:33.03`	`Miles`	`ughhhhhhh`
`23:33.04`	`Frozen-Solid`	`they broke razorgore in 2.0.3`
`23:33.05`	`Goeb`	`barn- heh`
`23:33.07`	`Barbanus`	`Frozen-Solid, I'm just spewing BS`
`23:33.07`	`anenigma`	`lol Barbanus, love the ouro strat`
`23:33.17`	`Frozen-Solid`	`apparently... -_-'`
`23:33.19`	`nadas`	ag`: heh, just added my issue to the google thingy.. anyway,my message was this: ag_UnitClass.lua line 341, please change 'themetable.comboGFX' to 'themetable.ComboGFX' :)
`23:33.20`	`Frozen-Solid`	`but yeah. it was hilarious last night`
`23:33.22`	ag`	`Miles: what happen?`
`23:33.27`	`Frozen-Solid`	`we managed to macguyver to Chrommy`
`23:33.29`	`vhaarr`	ag`: Someone set up us the bomb.
`23:33.35`	ag`	`vhaarr: we get signal`
`23:33.36`	`Miles`	`you changed a external. in a patchweek`
`23:33.38`	`Frozen-Solid`	`so thursday we have chrommy and nef, and we're done til 70`
`23:33.43`	`vhaarr`	ag`: How are you gentlemen.
`23:33.45`	`Barbanus`	`anenigma, I posted that on our guild forums, it was awesome :P`
`23:33.48`	`Miles`	`damnit, gonna take me an hour to get it updated :P`
`23:33.51`	`Frozen-Solid`	`i'll miss raiding`
`23:33.54`	ag`	`Miles: why update in raid? :P`
`23:33.54`	`vhaarr`	`Miles: I did :P`
`23:34.00`	`vhaarr`	`Miles: Fucking non-versioned externals make me puke.`
`23:34.16`	`Goeb`	`we gave up on bwl finally... and last week our GL said "this is the last fucking time we're coming here" while in aq40... so it's naxx all week... then bc`
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`23:34.32`	`Frozen-Solid`	`ah we skipped aq40`
`23:34.38`	`SquishemHard`	`wow...`
`23:34.40`	`Goeb`	`lucky you`
`23:34.41`	`Frozen-Solid`	`got the first 2 bosses of naxx done`
`23:34.42`	`Miles`	`huh`
`23:35.21`	`kergoth`	`Arrowmaster: thats a good idea.. either that or just include one or two and make the user get surfaces if they want more`
`23:35.21`	`Miles`	`since when did agUF include FuBarPlugin?`
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`23:35.22`	`Frozen-Solid`	`and now we're out of time, and the raid ui screwed us over so we couldn't one night BWL to go into naxx thurs`
`23:35.22`	`vhaarr`	`Miles: It doesn't?`
`23:35.22`	`Goeb`	`aq40 was ok... but a patch or so ago they broke frank`
`23:35.22`	`SquishemHard`	`My guild was 4 bosses from being done with naxx and they kicked us in the nutz by releasing 2.0`
`23:35.23`	`Pogo`	`Hi.`
`23:35.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`kergoth: while your at it go snatch reversebantobar from capping and add it to surfaces`
`23:35.23`	`Frozen-Solid`	`we just couldn't see the point in doing aq40 with 2 months to BC`
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`23:35.35`	`Frozen-Solid`	`we wanted Naxx. so we skipped it`
`23:35.35`	`shieldb`	`Frozen-Solid, you'll be hard pressed to completely skip AQ40 and expect to do well in naxx beyond a couple bosses`
`23:35.35`	`Frozen-Solid`	`aq40 is just a massive rep grinde for mostly side-grades`
`23:35.35`	`Goeb`	`I wish we would have gone that route`
`23:35.38`	ag`	`somebody give me a good icon for ag_unitfframes fubar icon`
`23:35.40`	ag`	`gogogo`
`23:35.48`	`vhaarr`	`o_O`
`23:35.49`	`Pogo`	`So are the raid bugs with promoting an isue with CT or Blizzard UI bugs?`
`23:35.57`	ag`	`vhaarr: or I will steal grids`
`23:35.59`	`Miles`	`see? :P`
`23:35.59`	`kergoth`	`blizzard, pogo`
`23:36.00`	`Frozen-Solid`	`blizzard ui pogo`
`23:36.04`	`Frozen-Solid`	`it's awesome`
`23:36.05`	`shieldb`	`c'thun loot is (in most cases) superior or on par with stuff that even end of wing bosses drop`
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`23:36.11`	`Pogo`	ag` there's already a FuBar plugin for AGuF
`23:36.19`	`vhaarr`	ag`: Grids FBP is not optimal, but go ahead, I'll just fix it post-commit.
`23:36.25`	ag`	`Pogo: yes, but I am fixing broken stuff`
`23:36.26`	ag`	`FBP?`
`23:36.30`	`vhaarr`	`fubarplugin`
`23:36.32`	`Pogo`	`kerg/frozen - Thanks, that's what it seemed like. Totally screwed up MC last night.`
`23:36.33`	`Frozen-Solid`	`yeah, but 2 months isn't enough time to properly learn aq40 for a casual raiding guild`
`23:36.40`	ag`	`was just talking about the icon graphics vhaarr`
`23:36.41`	`Frozen-Solid`	`so we didnt do it`
`23:36.43`	`vhaarr`	ag`: ah
`23:36.52`	`SquishemHard`	`naxx isnt at all for a casual raiding guild...`
`23:36.57`	`vhaarr`	ag`: Ask on the forums, I'm sure there is some talented icon designer out there.
`23:36.58`	`Frozen-Solid`	`we farted around in naxx just for the first 2-3 bosses since we didn't have time to finish`
`23:37.03`	`Frozen-Solid`	`SquishemHard: we did fine`
`23:37.08`	`SquishemHard`	`2 bosses?`
`23:37.09`	`Pogo`	`Only 4 or 5 people knew Onyxia's health last night because we were using AGUF`
`23:37.16`	`SquishemHard`	`lemmie guess, anub and razuvius`
`23:37.16`	`Frozen-Solid`	`SquishemHard: considering we only spent 2 weeks in naxx? yeah.`
`23:37.31`	`Miles`	`ah, the sweet sound of fatality`
`23:37.32`	`Frozen-Solid`	`anub, raz, and ... third guy to 20% before we wiped`
`23:37.38`	`Frozen-Solid`	`and that was only 2 weeks of tries`
`23:37.44`	ag`	`vhaarr: I am looking for a good one in the blizzard art`
`23:37.45`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`23:37.56`	ag`	`whatabout FishingLoot-icon?`
`23:37.57`	`vhaarr`	ag`: nah, ask on the forums, you'll get a few cool ones I bet
`23:37.58`	`Frozen-Solid`	`we had numbers problems, couldn't get a full 40 cuz of the holidays`
`23:37.58`	ag`	`it's a fish`
`23:37.59`	`Pogo`	`Is Wowace.com gonna blow up if I use the Updater right now? :)`
`23:38.06`	`thalie`	`yes`
`23:38.08`	`thalie`	`don't do it`
`23:38.12`	ag`	`vhaarr: I just need something so I can commit`
`23:38.19`	`Frozen-Solid`	`plus most the guild works at game devs, so the past 2 months were crunch time with PS3 release so close`
`23:38.26`	`vhaarr`	ag`: Ah, then use whatever
`23:38.28`	`Frozen-Solid`	`at = as`
`23:38.36`	`Frozen-Solid`	`so yeah. we didn't have time to really try for aq40/naxx`
`23:38.41`	`Pogo`	`thalie - ok I'll wait, the only mod giving me an error is Bananabar anyways`
`23:38.44`	`SquishemHard`	`Yeah...PS3 is a good one to dev for`
`23:38.48`	`thalie`	`i was joking pogo`
`23:38.52`	`thalie`	`:)`
`23:38.54`	`Arrowmaster`	ag`: is aguf suppost to be hiding the casting bar?
`23:38.56`	`SquishemHard`	`wrists`
`23:38.57`	`Frozen-Solid`	`the guys i raid with made Resistance 8)`
`23:39.20`	`SquishemHard`	`neato....but I would never want to dev for sony`
`23:39.21`	`CIA-17`	`03nargiddley * r24563 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Items context menu is now Alt-Rightclick only, to leave Alt-clicks free for mail mods etc`
`23:39.43`	`Pogo`	`thalie - oh... dammit! took me two minutes to load the available addons!`
`23:39.43`	`Frozen-Solid`	`i just want one more nef kill before BC`
`23:39.43`	`Frozen-Solid`	`and i want my staff or my claw :(`
`23:39.46`	`SquishemHard`	`I feel for ya`
`23:39.46`	`Frozen-Solid`	`nef/chrommy hates casters`
`23:39.59`	`Miles`	`ugh`
`23:40.04`	`Frozen-Solid`	`we've gotten 1 staff in 2 months of farming nef... and no claws`
`23:40.07`	`shieldb`	`Barbanus, I always got a kick out of our "how not to do ouro" diagram: http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c308/thentsc/MeleeAggro.gif`
`23:40.11`	`thalie`	`i have the claw on my alt mage`
`23:40.13`	`Pogo`	`Arrowmaster - use OCB for a replacement casting bar`
`23:40.20`	`SquishemHard`	`We couldnt get the numbers 4 weeks ago, so our naxx adventures ended with 3 wings and razuvius down`
`23:40.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`i do`
`23:40.23`	`thalie`	`but the grand marshal's mageblade is better`
`23:40.27`	`Miles`	`who messed with the .toc? it should read libs\Dewdrop\Dewdrop-2.0.lua instead of Dewdrop-2.0 in the dirname`
`23:40.29`	`Frozen-Solid`	`yeah but that requires me to pvp`
`23:40.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`my friend was bitching because his casting bar was gone`
`23:40.32`	`Frozen-Solid`	`and i hate/loath pvp`
`23:40.40`	`thalie`	`me too, but it's cheap and better`
`23:40.49`	`vhaarr`	`Miles: Probably me, let me fix.`
`23:40.59`	`Bver__`	`just geta wraithe blade`
`23:41.11`	`Miles`	`gotta love svn log. it totally crashed :p`
`23:41.14`	`Pogo`	`I don't think AGuF removed the casting bar when I first started using it, not sure if it's bugged today, I don't see why it would be`
`23:41.17`	`Frozen-Solid`	`that never dropped for us either :(`
`23:41.19`	`Barbanus`	`shieldb, ahahahahaah`
`23:41.26`	`Frozen-Solid`	`not that we got many kills in naxx`
`23:41.31`	`_neuron_`	`the latest ag_unitframes has built in castbar, and yes it does hide the blizzard one`
`23:41.38`	`Frozen-Solid`	`naxx came too close to BC, it's sad tha twel'll never finish it`
`23:41.40`	`SquishemHard`	`we dropped all other instances to progress in naxx`
`23:41.51`	`_neuron_`	`guessing if you turn off "show castbar" in aguf it'll show the blizzard one`
`23:41.51`	`SoLoR`	`hm since we are at aguf externals... they where changed in toc but real libs are still old`
`23:41.51`	`vhaarr`	`Miles: I think you're mistaken.`
`23:41.52`	`bver`	`i got lucky, on our last raid this week, and got one`
`23:41.52`	`vhaarr`	`Miles: The TOC is correct.`
`23:41.53`	`Frozen-Solid`	`we couldn't see dropping BWL to focus on naxx`
`23:42.04`	`Frozen-Solid`	`considering we just hit our first nef kill when we weres tarting naxx :P`
`23:42.17`	`bver`	`yeah, we dont even do bwl anymore, or aq40 for that matter`
`23:42.20`	`Frozen-Solid`	`seriously. week A: killed nef week B: one nighted nef, started on naxx`
`23:42.23`	`Miles`	`what kind of weird version do I have then?`
`23:42.27`	`Pogo`	`Is there a way to use one batch of libraries for all the Ace2 mods?`
`23:42.35`	`Pogo`	`I notice a lot of redundancy in the libraries.`
`23:42.37`	`Miles`	`it's Dewdrop\ and SurfaceLib\ here in \libs`
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`23:42.51`	`vhaarr`	`that's wrong`
`23:42.56`	`Frozen-Solid`	`week C: started working on 3rd naxx boss, after another one night nef. week D: attendance starts dropping and we can' tget 40 for bwl OR naxx`
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`23:43.02`	`SquishemHard`	`I spend most of my time online now fuxing with my ui`
`23:43.03`	`Barbanus`	`our guild cleared to c'thun, killed 4 bosses in naxx, and handn't killed nef yet, in its first week :P`
`23:43.03`	`vhaarr`	`Miles: Your copy is not up to date.`
`23:43.10`	`bver`	`yeah, the load time is getting insane :P`
`23:43.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`haha Kruul is outside org on my server now`
`23:43.39`	`Frozen-Solid`	`Barbanus: guilds formed from another guild tha'ts bleeding don't count :P`
`23:43.41`	`Miles`	`it says At revision 24563 :<`
`23:43.57`	`Barbanus`	`it was actually a combination of 3 guilds :P`
`23:44.02`	`Frozen-Solid`	`exactly.`
`23:44.04`	`Miles`	`Dewdrop http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0`
`23:44.04`	`Miles`	`SurfaceLib http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/SurfaceLib/Surface-1.0`
`23:44.09`	`vhaarr`	`Miles: ah`
`23:44.12`	`vhaarr`	`Miles: ag fucked up my commit.`
`23:44.12`	`SquishemHard`	`My guild started on a server less than half as old as most and given less time have completed nearly all endgame content`
`23:44.16`	`Miles`	`in svn:externals`
`23:44.20`	`Frozen-Solid`	`we went from barely making enough people to hit UBRS, to ZG, to farming MC, to farming BWL in less than a year`
`23:44.23`	`Miles`	`heh`
`23:44.24`	`shieldb`	`Barbanus, what server do you play on? /curious`
`23:44.33`	`Barbanus`	`shieldb, Korgath`
`23:44.44`	`Barbanus`	`US`
`23:44.46`	`Pogo`	`My guild's stuck on Razor.`
`23:44.48`	`bver`	`lol`
`23:44.50`	`Pogo`	`Permanently, I'm afraid.`
`23:44.53`	`bver`	`i used to be on korgath`
`23:44.57`	`sbu`	hmm ag`
`23:44.57`	`Frozen-Solid`	`pogo: considering razor is broken now, gg :P`
`23:44.57`	`shieldb`	`that's interesting, the guild I'm in had a similar "when it started" deal`
`23:45.00`	`shieldb`	`formed from three guilds`
`23:45.01`	`Pogo`	`THe players are too casual.`
`23:45.10`	`Barbanus`	`bver, what guild?`
`23:45.12`	`Frozen-Solid`	`pogo: we dont even use TS/Vent we're that casual 8)`
`23:45.14`	`sbu`	`[2007/01/11 00:44:08-222-x1]: ag_UnitFrames-05-01-07\locales\ag_UnitFrames-enUS.lua:1: Cannot find a library instance of AceLocale-2.2.`
`23:45.15`	`shieldb`	`cleared a bunch of naxx/aq40/bwl in the first week, etc`
`23:45.17`	`sbu`	`wtf?`
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`23:45.27`	`shieldb`	`so I was curious as to if I was talking to someone I actually knew`
`23:45.28`	`Pogo`	`They can handle MC just fine but when it comes to being prepared for Razor, we fail :(`
`23:45.30`	`Frozen-Solid`	`hell we have an oomkin who got htes first cloth hat off nef`
`23:45.31`	`Barbanus`	`My character name is this name`
`23:45.33`	`bver`	`was in Manic, thrn i xfered to illidan and joined Blood Legion`
`23:45.35`	`Barbanus`	`so you would probably know me :P`
`23:45.36`	`vhaarr`	`sbu: Fixing it now.`
`23:45.38`	`vhaarr`	ag`: you bastard
`23:45.39`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24564 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.toc libs/): ag_UnitFrames: Fix libs again.`
`23:45.44`	`Barbanus`	`bver, Horde eh?`
`23:45.46`	`Antiarc`	`We don't use TS/Vent either. Spider wing clear, Raz and Noth also down. Raiding evaporated as of Christmas. :P`
`23:45.48`	`bver`	`yea`
`23:45.50`	`Frozen-Solid`	`we have an oomkin with as much cloth +dmg as I have`
`23:45.55`	`thalie`	`lol rabbit`
`23:45.55`	`Frozen-Solid`	`(about 600)`
`23:45.57`	`sbu`	`vhaarr: fixed?`
`23:46.00`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`23:46.01`	`Barbanus`	`whats your char name? :P`
`23:46.02`	`sbu`	`thanks`
`23:46.05`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`23:46.07`	Funkeh`	`just noticed`
`23:46.13`	`Frozen-Solid`	`Antiar1: sup raiding evaporated as of christmas buddy 8)`
`23:46.15`	`Pogo`	`You guys do real time updating in here?`
`23:46.16`	Funkeh`	`blizz added auto-dismount @ flight master`
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`23:46.19`	`bver`	`bver was my name`
`23:46.26`	`vhaarr`	Funkeh`: About time!
`23:46.26`	`kergoth`	Funkeh`: really? nice
`23:46.31`	`vhaarr`	`nice indeed`
`23:46.32`	`Barbanus`	`bver, what class?`
`23:46.32`	Funkeh`	`aye`
`23:46.36`	`bver`	`warlock`
`23:46.42`	`SquishemHard`	`Who can I give my email to about hosting a mirror for wowace?`
`23:46.44`	`Antiarc`	`Pogo: Realtime updating of what?`
`23:46.55`	`bver`	`your alliance i take it?`
`23:46.57`	`Barbanus`	`I think I remember you actually`
`23:46.57`	`Frozen-Solid`	`Antiar1: we just got enough to restart raiding last week... barely. this week we got full 40s and razorgore broke... but we managed to macguyver to chrommy`
`23:46.59`	`Barbanus`	`Yea...`
`23:47.01`	`Barbanus`	`Paladin`
`23:47.11`	`Antiarc`	`Heh, nice.`
`23:47.13`	`bver`	`yeah that sounds familiar`
`23:47.13`	`Pogo`	`Antiarc: Ace2 mods.`
`23:47.14`	`Frozen-Solid`	`so hopefully nef dies thursday, and we can have one more run at naxx sunday`
`23:47.29`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r24565 10SurfaceLib/Surface-1.0/Surface-1.0.lua: SurfaceLib: pass the name of the newly registered texture along with the 'Surface_Registered' event. haste: it's a minor change, but feel free to ~lart me for poking at your stuff :P`
`23:47.30`	`Antiarc`	`Pogo: CIA-17 is a bot that watches and posts SVN commit notes`
`23:47.32`	`Frozen-Solid`	`prays`
`23:47.34`	`Barbanus`	`I've been known to enjoy world pvp :P`
`23:48.07`	`Antiarc`	`We've been running MC/BWL/20 mans, but we can't get the 40 for Naxx for anything.`
`23:48.07`	`Antiarc`	`It's frustrating.`
`23:48.07`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: SurfaceLib is up for grabs, according to haste.`
`23:48.07`	`Pogo`	`Antiarc: Oh... cool.`
`23:48.07`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: I said I could maintain it.`
`23:48.07`	`kergoth`	`ah, thats cool`
`23:48.15`	`bver`	`we've been running joint raids with team ice, for the last month or so`
`23:48.18`	`Frozen-Solid`	`Antiar1: yeah we ran BWL with 30 last week. didn't get chrommy cuz we didnt have enough shaman :(`
`23:48.25`	`Antiarc`	`~lart kergoth`
`23:48.26`	`kergoth`	`at any rate, it bugged me that all these surfacelib addons were calling surface:List() on every registration. unnecessary table constructions`
`23:48.27`	`bver`	`been working out weell, killed kt 4 times so far`
`23:48.36`	`Barbanus`	`we stopped raiding the week before christmas`
`23:48.44`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: It's because of the AceOptions table .validate.`
`23:48.44`	`Frozen-Solid`	`got him to ONE PERCENT when we wiped. :(`
`23:48.45`	`Gnarfoz_`	`damn I seriously need traffic shaping, blizzard downloader kills my connection ;D`
`23:48.46`	`Barbanus`	`instead we have been rolling in pvp`
`23:49.00`	`Pogo`	`Has anyone noticed copies of profiles showing up?`
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`23:49.04`	`Antiarc`	`Same here, Barbanus`
`23:49.06`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: If you give .validate a proper table, you get a nice list of available settings when tabbing and stuff.`
`23:49.16`	`SquishemHard`	`My guild mates and I have got to help other guilds progress in bbwl and mc, raiding is fun...`
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`23:49.23`	`SquishemHard`	`But misses naxx`
`23:49.24`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: So every time a new texture is registered, you replace the .validate with a new table.`
`23:49.25`	`Barbanus`	`I'm 225-6 in AB, and 164-4 in WSG :P`
`23:49.26`	`Pogo`	`I get two of the same copies of a profile in the Profile list in Ace2 mods.`
`23:49.32`	`Antiarc`	`Horde, I suspect :P`
`23:49.35`	`kergoth`	`i know, but theres no reason to create a new table and repopulate it with surface.vars from _each addon_. each call to List() creates a new one and populates it over again`
`23:49.38`	`kergoth`	`its silly`
`23:49.48`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`23:49.52`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: So what do you propose?`
`23:50.04`	`Barbanus`	`Antiarc, nah, I'm alliance :P`
`23:50.15`	`Antiarc`	`Heh, that surprises me. But cool. :)`
`23:50.16`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: That we table.insert the new texture?`
`23:50.18`	`Miles`	`ah`
`23:50.21`	`Miles`	`*bah`
`23:50.28`	`Miles`	`mABF is totally broken -_-`
`23:50.37`	`Barbanus`	`Antiarc, mains rolling in t3, with nothing better to do, with 2 paladins who are healbots who dont die :P`
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`23:50.44`	`Antiarc`	`Hehe, that'll do it.`
`23:50.53`	`Mimesis`	`how did site get hit so hard on a patch that required me to update 0 times to get mods working`
`23:50.56`	`Enalung`	`Hey`
`23:50.56`	`kergoth`	`vhaarr: yep. each user of surface can continue to use List() today to get their own copy of the texture list, and just table.insert the new one into their validate table in their Surface_Registered handler`
`23:50.57`	`Antiarc`	`Most of our PVP has been people doing it on alts to get BC-ready gear for them`
`23:51.07`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: Indeed.`
`23:51.22`	`break19`	`ok, here's a question... when bananabar2 loads, it says "loading in standalone mode, no fubar support enabled" how do I enable it? :)`
`23:51.27`	`Barbanus`	`Antiarc, I had 5 hunter pets on me last night, I'm a paladin, and I just kept on healing. 100% chance to not take reduced casting time FTW`
`23:51.40`	`Eej`	`silencing shot, bam!`
`23:51.44`	`Antiarc`	`Heh, indeed. Concentration aura is crazy. :D`
`23:51.45`	`Pogo`	`break19: That's a good question, I always wondered myself.`
`23:51.50`	`Enalung`	`My timing is a bit bad, I'm currently learning how to code addons and I've been working on one. I know ace has several librairies and I'm wondering if one of them handles spells.`
`23:51.57`	`Eej`	`pets are for damage, not spell interrupt through damage`
`23:52.06`	`break19`	`oh, and sylvanaar - prat is one of your goodies, right?`
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`23:52.22`	`Barbanus`	`Eej, they sure are vs a druid :P`
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`23:52.33`	`Enalung`	`And I know that spells can't be cast by addons, I'm just basicaly looking for something that can fetch spell textures.`
`23:52.36`	`kergoth`	`Enalung: "handles"?`
`23:52.47`	`Prophyy`	`hmm what mod constantly says "Fatality" ?`
`23:52.51`	`Eej`	`barkskin!`
`23:52.54`	`[dRaCo]`	`have you ever tried to cast a spell when like 5 pets with 1.x attack speed hit you?`
`23:53.01`	`Barbanus`	`Prophy bugsack`
`23:53.02`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Prophy: Bugsack?`
`23:53.03`	`kergoth`	`Prophyy: bugsack does when theres an error by default`
`23:53.03`	`Mimesis`	`babblelib has the textures doesnt it`
`23:53.10`	`Gnarfoz_`	`there are no pets with attackspeed other than 2.0 anymore, are there`
`23:53.13`	`Eej`	`no`
`23:53.16`	`Eej`	`all normalized to 2.0`
`23:53.20`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`And yes, Babblelib has methods to retrieve spell textures.`
`23:53.25`	`Eej`	`they need to be fairly deep into BM spec to get under 2.0 attack speed`
`23:53.30`	`Pogo`	`Does that mean they all do the same damage?`
`23:53.31`	`Eej`	`and if that's the case, they're not a threat in PvP`
`23:53.33`	`Enalung`	`Alright, that's what I wanted to know`
`23:53.41`	`Eej`	`within a given pet species, yes`
`23:53.42`	`[dRaCo]`	`seen enough of 'em today`
`23:53.45`	`Eej`	`actually no`
`23:53.49`	`Eej`	`some pets have caster stats`
`23:53.49`	`Enalung`	`Just have to wait for the wiki to be back to normal I guess so that I can read the info.`
`23:53.51`	`Chinku`	`ah, 1.x is about 2.0 for sufficiently large values of x :-)`
`23:53.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`dps != attack speed :P`
`23:53.57`	`[dRaCo]`	`^^`
`23:53.57`	`zirah_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:53.57`	`Eej`	`so they have less autoattack DPS`
`23:54.20`	`Miles`	`noooooo :<`
`23:54.29`	`Miles`	`seriously, my BT / bloodseeker are 2.0 now?`
`23:54.40`	`Chinku`	`miles: yes they are.`
`23:54.46`	`Barbanus`	`Eej, hunters dont bug me on my paladin, your arcane shot isnt enough to take me out :P`
`23:54.51`	`Enalung`	`That command works too I guess`
`23:54.59`	`Barbanus`	`Eej, now mages/warlocks .. owww`
`23:55.09`	`Pogo`	`So does anyone know how to fix the problem of duplicate character profiles showing up in Ace2 mod Profile lists?`
`23:55.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`man, who doesn't hate mages/warlocks. ><`
`23:55.22`	`Pogo`	`I really don't feel like wiping my folders and starting over.`
`23:55.30`	`Eej`	`i don't care for taking out paladins`
`23:55.35`	`Eej`	`just silencing them so i can kill their dps`
`23:55.36`	`Miles`	`hey, mages are just fine :P`
`23:55.40`	`Enalung`	`Blizzard bugged a lot of things this patch`
`23:55.41`	`zirah_`	`Enalung, mods can setup own buttons/key bindings that cast spells`
`23:55.48`	`Barbanus`	`Eej, paladins dps?`
`23:55.50`	`Enalung`	`I know that`
`23:55.56`	`Enalung`	`But that's not the goal of the operation`
`23:56.01`	`Eej`	`i said their dps`
`23:56.13`	`Eej`	`as in like, the mage/rogue/warrior/warlock/hunter that they're healing`
`23:56.14`	`djspark`	`attack speed = is how often your damage is done, not how much... so a dps of 50 is the same, just broken down into more hits or less hits`
`23:56.14`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Miles, to a prot specced warrior (or any warrior), they're anything but "fine". :\`
`23:56.18`	`Enalung`	`If you know what sprocket is, then it's basicaly what I'm trying to build.`
`23:56.22`	`Barbanus`	`Eej, ahhh, lol`
`23:56.36`	`kombora`	`;`
`23:56.36`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r24566 10kEnergy/addon.lua:`
`23:56.36`	`CIA-17`	`kEnergy: use the new argument passed to Surface_Registered event handlers to`
`23:56.36`	`CIA-17`	`avoid reconstructing the texture validate table, and handle the`
`23:56.36`	`CIA-17`	`Surface_SetGlobal event, so our texture changes when \!SurfaceControl changes`
`23:56.36`	`CIA-17`	`the global texture.`
`23:56.38`	`Enalung`	`Want to make somethign similar but give it a bit more power. And sprocket was not updated so..`
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`23:56.54`	`zirah_`	`Enalung, yes i know`
`23:57.06`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Enalung: if you could get a sprocket-like addon working in 2.0, I would love you forever.`
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`23:57.14`	`zirah_`	`Enalung, my mod has a sprocket skin ;-P`
`23:57.17`	`Enalung`	`That's my goal`
`23:57.22`	`Enalung`	`I still have a lot to learn though`
`23:57.39`	`Enalung`	`It will be weeks before I even get something that starts looking like an addon`
`23:57.44`	`Pogo`	`If someone makes a non-crappy Cryolysis/Necrosis, that'd be nice.`
`23:57.56`	`Enalung`	`In the meantime I got a nice little green button in middle of my screen :)`
`23:57.58`	`zirah_`	`Pogo, working on it ;-P`
`23:58.00`	`Miles`	`necrosis is basically replaced by chronometer`
`23:58.02`	`kergoth`	`henge looked promising, would be cool if it worked`
`23:58.11`	`Miles`	`well, except for the shard tracker part`
`23:58.21`	`Pogo`	`Henge is unusable.`
`23:58.25`	`Pogo`	`Zirah: work harder!`
`23:58.27`	`Ordog`	`thank you Arrowmaster btw`
`23:58.40`	`zirah_`	`Pogo, i am the author of Venantes`
`23:58.41`	`Ordog`	`didnt know that and wowhead has rokaro not yet fetched`
`23:58.44`	`Enalung`	`My next goal is to get the menu going, I plan to use the menu librairy (forgot the name!!!!) that ace uses.`
`23:58.46`	`zirah_`	`the hunter version`
`23:58.57`	`Ordog`	`gonna run the client and head back after drakki kill ..`
`23:59.00`	`KarlThePagan`	`http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2007/01/what_comes_afte.html`
`23:59.24`	`zirah_`	`need to add restack and keybindings to the new codebase before i am starting the class ports`
`23:59.26`	`Enalung`	`Then after that I'll finish figuring out the radialbuttonpietemplate and start getting things wraped up`
`23:59.32`	`Pogo`	`I've never tried using it on my hunter.`
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