irclog2html for #wowace on 20070113

`00:00.00`	`sylvanaar`	`i have to buy at least 2 copies of tbc - i bought 1 so far`
`00:00.05`	`SkorcherX`	`so you dont think there will be a phone to compete with the iPhone for along time?`
`00:00.17`	`grennon`	`alright, i think your gonna dig this`
`00:00.19`	`grennon`	`http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/grennon/postal_blackbook2.jpg`
`00:00.25`	`Matrix110`	`there will SkorcherX`
`00:00.29`	`\|Kev\|`	`given the amount of stuff on the iphone which apple have patented`
`00:00.34`	`SkorcherX`	`I beg to differ... i almost gurantee all the big cellphone manufacturers are scurying to create a media phone with a HDD`
`00:00.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`SkorcherX: there probably will be. like there have been competetors to the ipod. take that as you will. :P`
`00:00.37`	`\|Kev\|`	`it seems to be hard for others to do much copying`
`00:00.41`	`Tain`	`I'll think about the iPhone in about a year.`
`00:01.00`	`\|Kev\|`	`and so far the others haven't managed to do much to compete with it from an internal innovation pov`
`00:01.14`	`Matrix110`	`I think its quite expensive atm though...`
`00:01.17`	`Harshmage`	`grennon, that's nice...`
`00:01.18`	`nymbia`	`grennon: looks good`
`00:01.21`	`\|Kev\|`	`'quite'? :o`
`00:01.28`	`SkorcherX`	`I have a Creative Zen Vision M`
`00:01.29`	`sylvanaar`	`oh wtf i just got patched`
`00:01.34`	`SkorcherX`	`instead of an IPod`
`00:01.42`	`sylvanaar`	`2.0.4`
`00:01.43`	`\|Kev\|`	`I got a Karma instead of an iPod`
`00:01.45`	`SkorcherX`	`and that thing is fu**ing awseom`
`00:01.45`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`grennon: neat. though the guild/friends bit seems redundant as wow auto-fills those..`
`00:01.52`	`ckknight`	`nice, grennon`
`00:01.53`	`\|Kev\|`	`started out saying it was great`
`00:01.59`	`\|Kev\|`	`then regretted it`
`00:02.00`	`SkorcherX`	`yeah?`
`00:02.04`	`\|Kev\|`	`and eventually replaced it with an ipod`
`00:02.06`	`SkorcherX`	`never heard of it...`
`00:02.08`	`grennon`	`NightHawkTheSane: easier to click when your drunk`
`00:02.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`grennon: touché :)`
`00:02.17`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r24857 10AutoBarConfig/ (AutoBarConfig.lua AutoBarConfig.toc AutoBarConfig.xml):`
`00:02.17`	`CIA-17`	`AutoBarConfig:`
`00:02.17`	`CIA-17`	`-- 2.00.00.26 beta`
`00:02.17`	`CIA-17`	`-- Kill the keybind tab & switch back to Blizzard KeyBind UI based keys`
`00:02.17`	`CIA-17`	`-- Barring bugs that finalizes the key bindings feature.`
`00:02.17`	`CIA-17`	`-- Allow gapping of -1`
`00:02.20`	`\|Kev\|`	`a few years ago it was the featureful option`
`00:02.23`	`grennon`	`NightHawkTheSane: and with my guildmates, thats usually the case`
`00:02.24`	`\|Kev\|`	`vorbis, flac, etc`
`00:02.26`	`*** part/#wowace Antiarc (n=Adrine@host42.ttiltd.com)`
`00:02.46`	`SkorcherX`	`wow`
`00:02.46`	`Matrix110`	`i never would buy a iPod... friends had to many bad experiences with them`
`00:02.47`	`sylvanaar`	`someone on with 2.0.4 also please tell me what prat is doing re: pet bar taint`
`00:03.00`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r24858 10AutoBar/ (6 files):`
`00:03.00`	`CIA-17`	`AutoBar:`
`00:03.00`	`CIA-17`	`-- 2.00.00.26 beta`
`00:03.00`	`CIA-17`	`-- Kill the keybind tab & switch back to Blizzard KeyBind UI based keys`
`00:03.00`	`CIA-17`	`-- Barring bugs that finalizes the key bindings feature.`
`00:03.01`	`CIA-17`	`-- Allow gapping of -1`
`00:03.03`	`sylvanaar`	`i just got my 2.0.4 update`
`00:03.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I've never had a problem with my iPod`
`00:03.11`	`SkorcherX`	`my GF has had a 30gb video and a nano`
`00:03.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`The only thing it doesnt do that i'd like is have support for more formats.`
`00:03.19`	`SkorcherX`	`so far i think the nano is the only ipod worth buying`
`00:03.31`	`SkorcherX`	`no HDD and all the neat accessories are for it`
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`00:03.37`	`Daemona`	`nano is the one with flash memory?`
`00:03.40`	`SkorcherX`	`yeah`
`00:03.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`nano and shuffle both have flash mem.`
`00:03.53`	`SkorcherX`	`so its all marketed to runners`
`00:03.54`	`sylvanaar`	`fags`
`00:03.58`	`Daemona`	`only one good for running/doing sports`
`00:03.58`	`SkorcherX`	`like the nike+ addon`
`00:04.05`	`SkorcherX`	`only works for nano not any other`
`00:04.08`	`SkorcherX`	`which is lame`
`00:04.30`	`SkorcherX`	`but they dont want you running with a hdd since the damn thing is literally spinning at like 4000rpms`
`00:04.36`	`ckknight`	`can you feel it?`
`00:04.46`	`ckknight`	`the burning hatred for Java, ever growing`
`00:04.52`	`SkorcherX`	`bah`
`00:04.54`	`ckknight`	`we hateses it.`
`00:04.56`	`\|Kev\|`	`I have a shuffle for running with`
`00:05.01`	`Tain`	`Love my 80GB iPod.`
`00:05.02`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Running or other activity with a non-flash iPod isnt really that bad.`
`00:05.08`	`vhaarr`	`Java <3`
`00:05.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`they were designed pretty well`
`00:05.09`	`\|Kev\|`	`one of the old-style gumstick ones`
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`00:05.21`	`\|Kev\|`	`ckknight: why is that?`
`00:05.27`	`Toadkiller`	`ckknight: what do you prefer over Java?`
`00:05.38`	`Tain`	`Although I still prefer the first generation iPod with the mechanical scroll wheel.`
`00:05.48`	`ckknight`	`\|Kev\|: we use Java at my work, it's quite painful in many ways, not just the language, the whole stack`
`00:05.50`	`SkorcherX`	`but my creative.. is really nice, im very pleased with it.. the screen is more vivid and the UI is very intuitive and easy to use.. the software for imported media is fucking incredible compared to itunes`
`00:06.01`	`SkorcherX`	`i can pull music off of it and onto other computers`
`00:06.02`	`ckknight`	`Toadkiller: there are many languages and solutions I prefer over Java`
`00:06.19`	`ckknight`	`Toadkiller: the project I'm currently working on (outside of work) is Python, which is quite nice to work with`
`00:06.21`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Tain: there's apps to do that with ipods too. shrug`
`00:06.27`	`Toadkiller`	`Yes, JAva will rot your mind over time`
`00:06.31`	`ckknight`	`I've also done development work in Boo/C# and such`
`00:06.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`er... not tain, I mean't SkorcherX`
`00:06.42`	`\|Kev\|`	`see`
`00:06.45`	`ckknight`	`and I'm not just coming at it with Java being my first language`
`00:06.50`	`ckknight`	`I know about 20 languages thus far.`
`00:06.51`	`SkorcherX`	`supports DivX/XviD so makes videos a real ease... watched borat at my buddies house last night, had the ZEN hooked up to his 32" LCD TV looks just as good as a DivX vid can`
`00:06.54`	`\|Kev\|`	`I don't like writing in Java very much`
`00:07.05`	`\|Kev\|`	`but there's no language I'd rather read an idiot's code in`
`00:07.09`	`ckknight`	`why the verbosity? it's unneeded and unwieldy`
`00:07.13`	`SkorcherX`	`yeah i know.. but its nice for the stock program to do it`
`00:07.22`	`Harshmage`	`There's a book that'll help explain why the iPod is the way it is; "The Perfect Thing" by Steven Levy. A lot of history on the development of the pod`
`00:07.24`	`\|Kev\|`	`because it's not unneeded ime`
`00:07.29`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: ping`
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`00:07.32`	`SkorcherX`	`you gotta realize that almost everyone in the room is a tech eletist`
`00:07.34`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: yo`
`00:07.37`	`ckknight`	`\|Kev\|: yea, but we should just kill those people in the name of purity.`
`00:07.38`	`Toadkiller`	`THe things I hated most about Java were no multiple inheritance & the related side effect of complete crap UI prototype libraries`
`00:07.41`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`SkorcherX: that's not in apple's best interest, though. :P`
`00:07.43`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Do you have any uncommitted changes in PT3?`
`00:07.47`	`\|Kev\|`	`I can write code in less verbose languages, because I'm a good coder, maybe`
`00:07.51`	`SkorcherX`	`we all know our shit... compared to most consumers and/or classmates/peers`
`00:07.58`	`Daemona`	`sometimes i get the feeling its wowi-lounge here judging from all the offtopic stuff :)`
`00:08.02`	`kenlyric\|home`	`SkorcherX: trust me, the ipod was not developed with us in mind :)`
`00:08.02`	`Tain`	`The thing I hate about Java is things breaking when upgrading minor revision levels.`
`00:08.04`	`\|Kev\|`	`but if there's any doubt of anyone ever touching it who every has a bad day`
`00:08.08`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: lemme take a quick look`
`00:08.11`	`\|Kev\|`	`something like ruby or perl is a nightmare`
`00:08.13`	`Fisker-`	`why do people keep mentioning 2.0.4?`
`00:08.15`	`Eternally777`	`ckknight: I remember when some German guys said that once...`
`00:08.16`	`Wobin`	`oh man`
`00:08.17`	`Wobin`	`http://www.inktank.com/AT/`
`00:08.20`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: nope. why do you ask?`
`00:08.25`	`Wobin`	`6 years worth of webcomics I haven't read`
`00:08.32`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Fisker-: because that'st he current version of wow.`
`00:08.34`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: setting eol style`
`00:08.37`	`SkorcherX`	`NightHawkTheSane: yeah i understand that... same reason why the Zune isnt very cool`
`00:08.40`	`Tain`	`I had three things break going just from Java 1.5.0_06 to 1.5.0_10`
`00:08.43`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: ah, ok :)`
`00:08.45`	`ckknight`	`Eternally777: yea, killing the Jews was a bad idea, they're rich, smart, and successful`
`00:08.53`	`SkorcherX`	`NightHawkTheSane: you read about the Zune at all?`
`00:08.56`	`Fisker-`	`NightHawkTheSane :O`
`00:08.58`	`Fisker-`	`not here`
`00:09.00`	`ckknight`	`they should've just kept to their "kill the retards" plan`
`00:09.03`	`Fisker-`	`only on us then?`
`00:09.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`SkorcherX: yeah a bit`
`00:09.11`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24859 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (12 files in 9 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Set svn:eol-style: native.`
`00:09.12`	`kenlyric\|home`	`what's the wowace.com/files mirror (not svn, the other one)? I don't have it set up here at hime.`
`00:09.15`	`ckknight`	`well, that and the mentally incompetent/unstable`
`00:09.21`	`Toadkiller`	`The biggest problem with Java is it was written by unix people with no conception of what a GUI is. I wish Apple would make a killer language`
`00:09.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Fisker-: you in EU? US has it already, so you should get it soon i guess?`
`00:09.30`	`ckknight`	`Tain: hey, that's the issue I'm dealing with ;-)`
`00:09.39`	`steev`	`what is this MultiBarRight:SetPoint() error ?`
`00:09.41`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Toadkiller: lol.`
`00:09.50`	`SkorcherX`	`NightHawkTheSane: so yeah great you can share your songs with other Zune owners... thats cool.. until you realize you can only listen to it 3 times or for 48 hours.. which ever comes first then it flags it for when you dock it to your PC and it spams you with ads to buy the mp3 or album.`
`00:09.56`	`Toadkiller`	`Oh wait, Apple made Hypercard way back then dropped the ball on it ;-(`
`00:10.07`	`kenlyric\|home`	`ckknight: That's unfair to actual retarded people. They at least have an excuse.`
`00:10.13`	`Eternally777`	`Hmm, PeriodicTable-3.0, eh?`
`00:10.15`	`steev`	`[2007/01/12 16:46:06-199-x8]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'MultiBarRight:SetPoint()'.`
`00:10.18`	`steev`	<in C code>: in function `SetPoint'
`00:10.18`	`Fisker-`	`indeed`
`00:10.38`	`Toadkiller`	`pt3? wth?`
`00:10.43`	`zoktar_`	`honorfu said 25k honor i got 13k ;P`
`00:11.01`	`Harshmage`	`I saw PT3 on the SVN today...first time`
`00:11.05`	`\|Kev\|`	`Toadkiller: I learned enough cocoa/obj-c in three days to write MAU in xcode, so I think it's not a bad setup they've got going there`
`00:11.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`SkorcherX: yeah, I saw that. It highly amused me. They were so close to a good feature. :P`
`00:11.16`	`Toadkiller`	`-30% -diminishing returns for same kills -> 13k`
`00:11.23`	`ckknight`	`kenlyric\|home: still doesn't mean they belong on this earth, taking our resources and giving little back, causing pain and anguish to their families. With a retarded child, you must be a parent your whole lifetime. They never grow up.`
`00:11.58`	`kenlyric\|home`	`ckknight: oh, you were being serious and not talking about bad coders...`
`00:11.59`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I really ought to learn obj-c/cocoa, been meaning to for a while...`
`00:12.09`	`\|Kev\|`	`three evenings...`
`00:12.26`	`sylvanaar`	`ok, im putting code in for the next WAU that will do what the batch files in standalonelibs do, does anyone want to propose another method`
`00:12.44`	`Eternally777`	`ckknight: I'd beg to differ about them 'causing pain and anguish to their families'.`
`00:12.47`	`Panye`	`so the US is running 2.04??`
`00:12.48`	`sylvanaar`	`i fell asleep earlier when i asked`
`00:12.52`	`sylvanaar`	`yes`
`00:12.59`	`zoktar_`	`honorfu counting double honor or something?`
`00:13.00`	`Adirelle`	`hey, killed razuvious this evening :)`
`00:13.06`	`Adirelle`	`(first time for our guild)`
`00:13.14`	`Eternally777`	`Adirelle: Grats :-)`
`00:13.14`	`Toadkiller`	`raz is fun`
`00:13.28`	`Panye`	`hmm so why is EU on 2.03`
`00:13.28`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Adirelle: grats :)`
`00:13.28`	`Fisker-`	`so what's new in PT3?`
`00:13.31`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: hehe, mtbi may have its problems, but it definately nails me: "I have a penchant for clarity. Some people say I’m hairsplitting, but there is value in precision." "Incompetence just sets me right off. I have very little tolerance or patience, especially if the person is above me or isn’t really trying."`
`00:13.34`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: So what was the "Materials" set is now "Tradeskill.Mat"?`
`00:13.34`	`Adirelle`	`toadkiller : btw : http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=autobarglitchenb3.jpg`
`00:13.35`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Eternally777: well, I have more things to say than "I beg to differ" but I find this channel too useful to get myself kicked out of it.`
`00:13.37`	`Adirelle`	`thx`
`00:14.01`	`ckknight`	`kergoth: fun fact: no matter what result you get, it will seem right for you. it's a trick called the Forer effect.`
`00:14.07`	`Daemona`	`sylvanaar you say you want to add a WAU option [x] skip externals load standalone libs instead`
`00:14.10`	`Daemona`	`sounds great`
`00:14.18`	`kergoth`	`i'm aware of it, but i've read the profiles of all the other types, and they're nowhere near as correct`
`00:14.34`	`ckknight`	`were your values more to the extreme or to the center?`
`00:14.35`	`kergoth`	`most are blatently inaccurate`
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`00:14.50`	`ckknight`	`they'll be more correct for you if you're more extreme`
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`00:15.07`	`kergoth`	`i must be pretty extreme then :)`
`00:15.11`	`ckknight`	`but people in the middle who are arbitrarily segregated can fit into any group (or no particular group)`
`00:15.35`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: Yeah using keybindings causes the bad outline to apear. Ill go take a look.`
`00:15.46`	`kergoth`	`booring`
`00:16.03`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : but, but ... I don't use keybindings :s`
`00:16.19`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: yeah, but it'll contain the same data organized in different ways. the one that i think you were using before became "Tradeskill.Mat.ByType" -- which one of two sets that isn't populated yet, heh.`
`00:16.30`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: aha`
`00:17.13`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: if you want all the tradeskill reagents, Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession will work fine, but be aware that it contains all the items that are used a reagent, so stuff like healing potions will be in there.`
`00:17.15`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller: the outline appears when I click on the expanded button`
`00:17.19`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Seems to me that converting PT:ItemInSets(a.itemLink, "Materials") would become PT3:Search(a.itemLink) ?`
`00:17.21`	`sylvanaar`	`Daemona: we already fixed the problem with empty zips, so you can install SAL via WAU. Now - gonna make it unpack it also`
`00:17.42`	`Daemona`	`chuckles`
`00:17.52`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : it does this on every button`
`00:18.05`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: PT3:ItemInSet(a.itemLink, "Tradeskill.Mat.ByType")`
`00:18.22`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: According to the API, that returns "string - the value of this item within the given set.".`
`00:18.32`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: I want the set that actually contains the item to be returned.`
`00:18.32`	`sylvanaar`	`Daemona: so, no need for an option, installing SAL is the option`
`00:18.37`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Or subset, that is.`
`00:18.39`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : even on main button (but the outline then appears only on mouseover then)`
`00:19.05`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Basically, I want to find what lowest subset within a superset that contains a.itemLink`
`00:19.08`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Make sense?`
`00:20.02`	`kergoth`	`Adirelle: oh good, i'm not the only one that saw that... the outline got annoying fast :)`
`00:20.02`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: yup, i'll add a return ;)`
`00:20.03`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Ah, so what I need is not supported yet?`
`00:20.17`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: it will be in about 12 seconds`
`00:20.26`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: MrPlow queries PT2 to see what subset an item belongs to and has preassigned priorities to each subset that it orders the items in your bags according to.`
`00:20.26`	`sylvanaar`	`ok - well. ill just assume yes`
`00:20.34`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: And that's what it uses PT for.`
`00:20.43`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: So anything you can optimize around that = win :P`
`00:21.16`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: it queries within all sets? or just specified ones?`
`00:21.23`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Materials.`
`00:21.26`	`ilifin`	`~seen Ominous`
`00:21.43`	`purl`	`ominous is currently on #wowace (6m 44s), last said: 'CrisCrOss: I do'.`
`00:21.43`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Which is weird, I kind of want to extend it to sort stuff from other sets as well.`
`00:22.04`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: yeah`
`00:22.16`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: But let's upgrade it to PT3 first and then take a look.`
`00:22.25`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: sounds good.`
`00:22.59`	`ilifin`	`Ominous - any possibilities to add Riposte to the timers? :x`
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`00:23.34`	`sylvanaar`	`hmm.tainting works somewhat differently now`
`00:24.13`	`ckknight`	`sylvanaar: how so?`
`00:24.24`	`ckknight`	`why do they gotta keep changing it? :-(`
`00:24.34`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: so it sorts 'em by which profession they're in?`
`00:24.51`	`sylvanaar`	`tainting of chat related events isnt causing PAB taint now`
`00:24.57`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: It sorts by the PT2 subcategories in Mats.`
`00:25.04`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: And item type.`
`00:25.34`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Like "Mats - Salt" and "Mats - Scales".`
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`00:27.33`	`sylvanaar`	`taint checker out of date ?`
`00:27.46`	`vhaarr`	`noone has updated the toc`
`00:28.07`	`Tain`	`Stop saying taint. :(`
`00:28.13`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`00:28.29`	`sylvanaar`	`my tocs were grepped loclally`
`00:28.36`	`kenlyric\|home`	`abstain from saying taint`
`00:28.51`	`sylvanaar`	`but i just WAU'ed`
`00:29.24`	`Tain`	`Kenlyric thougth he was being clever!`
`00:30.53`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24860 10Prat/modules/ChatFrames.lua: Prat: Disable PAB taint warning`
`00:31.13`	`_neuron_`	`a ui mod doesn't have access to hang wow right? Or will an infinite loop for example have that effect?`
`00:31.20`	`cynyr`	`sylvanaar: PAB?`
`00:31.41`	`durcyn`	`_neuron_: bad lua can crash the client`
`00:32.09`	`_neuron_`	`hm, thanks, now I gotta figure out which one of the mods it is :P`
`00:33.10`	`*** join/#wowace Telrin (n=test@roar.xs4all.nl)`
`00:34.02`	`*** join/#wowace Tular (i=BankZ@c-68-41-47-8.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)`
`00:34.21`	`Tular`	`Am I blind or is gmail not on the download page?`
`00:34.52`	`Enalung`	`Alright, I've coded a nice amount in notepad so far, but now it's starting to get big enough that word pad won't do the job. Any tool that does syntax highlighting and display line number? That's all I want.`
`00:34.57`	`durcyn`	`grennon: ping`
`00:35.03`	`cladhaire`	`Enalung: WOWSCITE.`
`00:35.05`	`cladhaire`	`err`
`00:35.09`	`cladhaire`	`SciTE-WoWinterface`
`00:35.13`	`cladhaire`	`among other editors`
`00:35.56`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`Eclipse has a Lua plugin I think`
`00:36.14`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`bbedit ftw. :)`
`00:36.27`	`Tular`	`notepad++`
`00:36.30`	`Enalung`	`I've heard of eclipse and I know it does. I just tend to forget.`
`00:36.31`	`_neuron_`	`gedit :P`
`00:36.34`	`cynyr`	`Enalung: Gvim`
`00:36.35`	`haste`	`vim!`
`00:36.39`	`Daemona`	`_neuron_ i once had an addon that wouldnt let me get past the loading screen if activated...`
`00:36.44`	`cynyr`	`<3 VIM!`
`00:36.47`	`*** join/#wowace Gngsk (n=gngsk@c-68-55-43-190.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`00:36.49`	`Enalung`	`I'm on windows, not linux.`
`00:36.56`	`_neuron_`	`Daemona, the lovely part is it only crashes really rarly :P`
`00:36.56`	`Enalung`	`Unfortunately`
`00:36.56`	`haste`	`gvim works on Windows`
`00:36.58`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`there's vim for windows`
`00:37.01`	`haste`	`so no problem tehre`
`00:37.03`	`cynyr`	`Enalung: and? there is a windows port`
`00:37.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`vim and emacs are like the plague, someone finds a way to get them EVERYWHERE. :P`
`00:37.27`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`vi and emacs suck, nano for the win`
`00:37.37`	`Daemona`	`Tular thats because it was removed as the author of ct_mailmod identified major code-pieces as copy pasted.`
`00:37.41`	`Enalung`	`rofl night hawk`
`00:37.57`	`cynyr`	`NightHawkTheSane: lol, name a better editor?`
`00:38.03`	`haste`	`OvrLrd-Q: lol :p`
`00:38.06`	`Tain`	`I do all of my editing with 'copy con'`
`00:38.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I'm not going to say better, but as noted, I like BBEdit :)`
`00:38.38`	`cynyr`	`i do all my editing with cat/echo/sed ! take that!!`
`00:38.54`	`cynyr`	`well i oculd do it wall with sed`
`00:39.01`	`haste`	`and I irc with II!`
`00:39.09`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`i irc with telnet`
`00:39.09`	`fuddite`	`I do all my editing with ed. No I don't ... that would be weird.`
`00:39.11`	`*** join/#wowace Mike-N-Go (n=mjgoosse@64.193.93.197)`
`00:39.19`	`haste`	`http://irc.suckless.org/ !`
`00:39.26`	`Enalung`	`Looking at the screenshot of wow scite. Not quite a fan of the colors used...`
`00:39.26`	`sylvanaar`	`~PAB`
`00:39.28`	`purl`	`extra, extra, read all about it, pab is important to chat mods, or http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62188847&sid=1&pageNo=1, or the Pet Action Bar`
`00:39.43`	`Enalung`	`For that matter there dosen't seem to be much syntax highlighting in there at all`
`00:39.57`	`haste`	`in vim?`
`00:40.02`	`groll`	`ckknight u alive?`
`00:40.17`	`vhaarr`	`Slouken: "I've fixed this for CTMod" ?`
`00:40.24`	`Enalung`	`?`
`00:40.25`	`vhaarr`	`I'll say.`
`00:40.39`	`ckknight`	`now I am, it took me about 2 days to resurrect, mind you.`
`00:40.58`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Hello, I am trying to download the Ace SVN, I got this error: http://ace.pastey.net/4981; can anyone tell me what this means?`
`00:41.33`	`groll`	`ckknight hehe good to see i got godly powers to resurect ppl ;P but got a lil question.. i know ur not the author but how do i use cartographer stats if u know? i see no info anywhere heh`
`00:41.34`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ckknight: I was about to make a remark that you were doing better than Jesus, but that seemed inappropriate. P`
`00:41.38`	`sylvanaar`	`amazing PetActionBarSlideFrame is tainted`
`00:41.44`	`*** join/#wowace malreth (n=triti@cpe-72-179-20-11.austin.res.rr.com)`
`00:42.22`	`sylvanaar`	`now all the block warnings`
`00:42.24`	`ckknight`	`NightHawkTheSane: Jesus rose 18 hours after his crucifixion.`
`00:42.39`	`ckknight`	`groll: sorry, dunno, check the forum or kagaro`
`00:42.49`	`_neuron_`	`groll, ctrl + click on map, says in upper left corner`
`00:42.53`	`groll`	`no info on forum :(`
`00:42.55`	`sylvanaar`	`now the pet bar shows up`
`00:43.10`	`groll`	`hmm ok _neuron_ thanks :D will try`
`00:43.16`	`sylvanaar`	`they musta added some securecalls`
`00:43.26`	`grennon`	`grrr`
`00:43.28`	`sylvanaar`	`you gonna want to change a few things`
`00:43.35`	`grennon`	`my lua nubness strikes again`
`00:44.38`	`Tular`	`has gmail been removed?`
`00:45.38`	`*** join/#wowace Nimloth (n=nimlothc@pD9E3784F.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`00:45.48`	`grennon`	`Tular: yes`
`00:45.52`	`snirks`	`can ebb colors be changed?`
`00:45.56`	`Daemona`	`(Daemona) Tular thats because it was removed as the author of ct_mailmod identified major code-pieces as copy pasted.`
`00:46.01`	`grennon`	`Tular: turns out it had the text to DeCSS in it`
`00:46.06`	`ckknight`	`NightHawkTheSane: (I'm pretty well read religiously)`
`00:46.08`	`_neuron_`	`lol grennon`
`00:46.29`	`durcyn`	`grennon: could you add ## OptionalDeps: Ace2 to ACTAI toc please? =)`
`00:46.33`	`Daemona`	`i rather guess Tular needs some nick highlighting, i answered his question each time he asked it;)`
`00:46.42`	`snirks`	`can the color of the bars in elkbuffbars be changed?`
`00:46.44`	`grennon`	`durcyn: do you have svn write access?`
`00:46.48`	`durcyn`	`grennon: nope.`
`00:46.53`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r24861 10HealSyncFu/: Share project 'HealSyncFu' into 'http://dev.wowace.com/wowace'`
`00:46.59`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ckknight: I see. I wasn't aware it was 18 hours, but I don't mind bending the truth to make a joke anyway, so. :P`
`00:47.07`	`durcyn`	`don't really need it, more fun to poke mod authors with pointy sticks`
`00:47.25`	`sylvanaar`	`how do i extract the new client code`
`00:47.37`	`sylvanaar`	`it comes up as being identical`
`00:47.43`	`grennon`	`Tular: gmail started out as just a ct_mailmod port, it grew but eventually the attributions got lost except for in the GMail forum thread`
`00:48.03`	`ckknight`	`wait, not 18`
`00:48.04`	`grennon`	`Tular: so Cide rightly complained that it didnt attribute the source`
`00:48.05`	`ckknight`	`36 hours.`
`00:48.22`	`ckknight`	`NightHawkTheSane: Jesus died just before sunset on Friday (thus the need to get him buried and everything before the sabbath), he then rose on Sunday morning, right after dawn`
`00:48.24`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24862 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua data.lua):`
`00:48.24`	`CIA-17`	`PeriodicTable-3.0: Added new return to ItemInSet() - the set that the item was`
`00:48.24`	`CIA-17`	`found in. Important note: having a cached table of a set will cause the`
`00:48.24`	`CIA-17`	`returned set name to be that of the parent set. To be sure to get the right`
`00:48.24`	`CIA-17`	`child, use :ItemInSet(item, "set", true)`
`00:48.35`	`ckknight`	`counting up, it's right around 36 hours or so.`
`00:48.39`	`ckknight`	`not 3 days like people believe`
`00:48.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Interesting`
`00:49.00`	`sylvanaar`	`the updater updated my unpacked source`
`00:49.02`	`ckknight`	`in the Lord's Prayer, Jesus rose on the Third day, which counts his death on Friday as the first day`
`00:49.06`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: committed. PT:ItemInSet(a.itemLink, "Tradeskill.Mat.ByType", true)`
`00:49.16`	`ckknight`	`so it's ~2 days, except that he rose early Sunday instead of late Sunday, so it's 36 hours`
`00:49.42`	`snirks`	`nice`
`00:49.42`	`ckknight`	`during which time he supposedly wrestled with Satan or was punished by him or something to that regard`
`00:49.44`	`snirks`	`irl lore`
`00:49.46`	`Goeb`	`wtf are we talkin about?`
`00:49.50`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: i'll work on getting that data actually populated now, heh ;)`
`00:49.52`	`sylvanaar`	`anyone hvae 2.0.3 files on hand`
`00:50.13`	`cynyr`	`sylvanaar: the patch files?`
`00:50.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Goeb: depends on who you ask. :)`
`00:50.21`	`sylvanaar`	`the client code`
`00:50.22`	`ckknight`	`snirks: lol, far from "irl"`
`00:50.27`	`sylvanaar`	`oh ilifin hvae tbc`
`00:50.31`	`sylvanaar`	`nvm`
`00:50.47`	`ilifin`	`O_o`
`00:50.58`	`ckknight`	`Goeb: talking about Jesus' death and resurrection and how people's beliefs go against what's in the bible itself.`
`00:51.02`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: ah, sweet.`
`00:51.41`	`Goeb`	`ck- that's.... interesting? :)`
`00:51.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`It is for knowledge geeks... :P`
`00:51.59`	`Goeb`	`jesus wrote my addons for me... but asked that I didn't give him credit`
`00:52.07`	`ckknight`	`hehe.`
`00:52.23`	`grennon`	`also, Jesus invented peanut butter`
`00:52.24`	`Goeb`	`which explains why I can't figure out WHY IT BREAKS EVERY PATCH! :(`
`00:52.25`	`Eternally777`	`ckknight: I thought it was just about the time between Jesus' death and His resurrection. I missed the part about how people's beliefs go against what's in the Bible itself.`
`00:52.28`	`grennon`	`his people did some amazing things`
`00:53.18`	`Neebler`	`�\(�_o)/�`
`00:53.32`	`ckknight`	`Eternally777: people believe Jesus rose 3 days after he died, which isn't quite true`
`00:53.45`	`sylvanaar`	`they changed the client binary`
`00:53.57`	`grennon`	`most people think jonah was swallowed by a whale, moses crossed the Red Sea, etc, etc`
`00:53.59`	`sylvanaar`	`these framexml changes are meaninless`
`00:54.19`	`Nayon`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Algormortisy`
`00:54.22`	`Nayon`	`Wow Just wow`
`00:54.27`	`grennon`	`theres many examples of common belief being wrong either due to translation errors or otherwise`
`00:55.23`	`sylvanaar`	`they changed the taint logic internally`
`00:55.25`	`cynyr`	`i wanna get smote by krull(or however you spell it)`
`00:55.36`	`Eternally777`	`ckknight: Maybe you should write a letter to the publishers :-P`
`00:55.40`	`*** join/#wowace mahiro (n=Miranda@107.156.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch)`
`00:55.55`	`mahiro`	`hi all`
`00:55.59`	`sylvanaar`	`or i just dont have the right framexmls`
`00:56.07`	`Fin`	`hi. I'm obviously being very stupid here as I can't figure it out; but I give up: can anyone give me a hint as to how I can update an addon on curse (one that I've uploaded and is associated with the account I'm logged in as)?`
`00:56.17`	`Fin`	`I know this isn't the proper place`
`00:56.34`	`*** part/#wowace invalid_ (i=invalid@teflon.aliased.net)`
`00:56.36`	`Werik`	`pm`
`00:56.49`	`ckknight`	`talk to Werik, he's curse`
`00:56.58`	`Fin`	`thanks, I will`
`00:58.14`	`Bakkoda`	`before i forget, i saw something on the site when it was having its tech difficulties about mirrors`
`00:58.26`	`Bakkoda`	`if space is needed let me know`
`00:59.17`	`Bakkoda`	`shoot me a PM or something`
`00:59.46`	`grennon`	`alright, here is my lua nubness showing`
`00:59.47`	`grennon`	`http://ace.pastey.net/4983`
`00:59.49`	`cynyr`	`seei i would offer some space, but i've got residential DSL, with a 55kbs up.. :(`
`01:00.13`	`grennon`	`how do i make the second instance of "name" in that line expand to what name currently is when the addline is done`
`01:00.34`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`mmmm, SVK looks nice`
`01:00.37`	`ckknight`	`Bakkoda: more about bandwidth than anything ;-)`
`01:00.51`	`Bakkoda`	`well ive got about 40gigs amonth of bw and since i moved my website its going to waste`
`01:00.54`	`Bakkoda`	`yeah`
`01:01.14`	`cladhaire`	`hehe i have 130 that i barely use =/`
`01:01.16`	`*** join/#wowace Klazar (n=chatzill@cpe-76-179-190-210.maine.res.rr.com)`
`01:01.25`	`grennon`	`pardon me for asking but apparently ive been reading all the wrong lua docs`
`01:01.35`	`mahiro`	`someons knows how to fix gotwood?`
`01:01.58`	`Bakkoda`	`sorry 400g a month`
`01:02.03`	`*** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@ip68-227-128-41.br.br.cox.net)`
`01:02.03`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ`
`01:02.04`	`Bakkoda`	`my typing is horrible tonight`
`01:02.21`	`cynyr`	`grennon: umm i'm very new to lua but won't a pass to a function expecting a string take it as a 'string' unless something special is done?`
`01:02.30`	`Bakkoda`	`far as max connections and such ill have to give em a ring and find out`
`01:03.09`	`*** part/#wowace [nd] (n=nd@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at)`
`01:03.21`	`grennon`	`cynyr: right now it gets a string, name is set in a for loop, so each addline has a different text field, but the settext is doing the last value of name`
`01:04.27`	`sylvanaar`	`still broken`
`01:04.28`	`Bakkoda`	`i can also probably con my buddy intoupping it to 800g a month`
`01:04.40`	`cynyr`	`grennon: have you tried setting new_name = name and using new_name in that line?`
`01:04.45`	`sylvanaar`	`PAB fails to show`
`01:04.54`	`renchap`	`Bakkoda: pm Kaelten`
`01:05.02`	`Bakkoda`	`thanks`
`01:05.12`	`Nargiddley`	`"func", SendMailNameEditBox.SetText, "arg1", SendMailNameEditBox, "arg2", name`
`01:05.33`	`grennon`	`this is the actual block of code to give you some context`
`01:05.35`	`grennon`	`http://ace.pastey.net/4984`
`01:05.46`	`*** join/#wowace Baraius (n=Baraius@70.165.210.189)`
`01:05.49`	`grennon`	`ignore that underscore`
`01:06.04`	`sylvanaar`	`CloseSpecialWindows tainted, only other thing`
`01:06.05`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`mahiro whats wrong with gotwood?`
`01:07.01`	`ckknight`	`Re: The Inconvenient Truth: "The information that's being presented is a very cockeyed view of what the truth is ... The Bible says that in the end times everything will burn up, but that perspective isn't in the DVD."`
`01:07.08`	`sylvanaar`	`PETACTIONBAR_XPOS now tainted \nCloseSpecialWindows now tainted`
`01:07.18`	`snirks`	`Intervene counts as a buff right?`
`01:07.20`	`snirks`	`for warriors`
`01:07.33`	`snirks`	`so i could use Clique with it and that would be cool?`
`01:07.51`	`mahiro`	`gotwood does not show anithing. it just gives an error when i cast my first totem...`
`01:07.54`	`cynyr`	`grennon: i think Nargiddley comment is too you`
`01:07.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Theoretically you probably could, snirks.`
`01:08.03`	`snirks`	`when the time comes ofc`
`01:08.07`	`mahiro`	`Error: attempt to call method 'SetCooldown' (a nil value)`
`01:08.07`	`mahiro`	`File: Interface\FrameXML\Cooldown.lua`
`01:08.56`	`grennon`	`Nargiddley: ahhhhhhh, danke`
`01:09.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`grennon: dewdrop:AddLine('text', name, 'func', function(name) SendMailNameEditBox:SetText(name) end, 'arg1', name ) ?`
`01:09.17`	`Enalung`	`Notepad++ seems more like it`
`01:09.18`	`grennon`	`i was looking at the lua docs and should have been reading the addline docs instead`
`01:09.26`	`grennon`	`heh`
`01:09.35`	`sylvanaar`	`Before i forget again`
`01:09.35`	`Nargiddley`	`Arrowmaster, mine does the same without creating a new function :D`
`01:09.44`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24863 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Tradeskill.Mat.ByType populated (sparse for now -- this one needs some TBC data lovin')`
`01:09.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`ok yeah use his`
`01:09.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`its better`
`01:10.03`	`sylvanaar`	`Can we add: ## X-SA-Dependancy:`
`01:10.07`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: committed that data`
`01:10.41`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: alrighty`
`01:10.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`sylvanaar: thats what X-Embeds: is for`
`01:10.48`	`sylvanaar`	`no`
`01:11.00`	`sylvanaar`	`cause you can embed stuff still`
`01:11.06`	`Wogroipl`	`could someone help me locate which addon(s) are responsible for my UI memory to increase by 70KB/s?`
`01:11.18`	`Wogroipl`	`it used to be more like 0.2`
`01:11.50`	`Barbanus`	`Wogroipl, when you first login? or when?`
`01:12.00`	`Wogroipl`	`all the time`
`01:12.02`	`Nargiddley`	`Wogroipl, what is happening when its 70k/s ?`
`01:12.04`	`break19`	`hey sylvanaar.. I notice a slight typo with login notifications, using pray`
`01:12.06`	`break19`	`err prat`
`01:12.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`sylvanaar: but if the person is downloading without embeds then it will still have X-Embeds in the toc and those are all the things theyll need`
`01:12.11`	`snirks`	`wogroipl, try opening and closing your bags`
`01:12.16`	`Barbanus`	`Wogroipl, you using performancefu?`
`01:12.17`	`snirks`	`Wogroipl: see if thats causing it`
`01:12.28`	`Wogroipl`	`whoa lots of info ;)`
`01:12.38`	`sylvanaar`	`Arrowmaster: doing it subtractively is bad design`
`01:12.41`	`Wogroipl`	`Barbanus: yes`
`01:12.43`	`snirks`	`opening onebag over and over skyrockets increasing memory usage for me`
`01:13.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`sylvanaar: but it would still be the exact same info in both`
`01:13.02`	`Wogroipl`	`Nargiddley: nothing, just standing in Orgrimmar`
`01:13.08`	`Barbanus`	`Wogroipl, if you are using performancefu, left-click to force a garbage collection, does your memory go way down and stay down? or does it immediately start climbing?`
`01:13.19`	`Nargiddley`	`Wogroipl, eew k no idea then :/`
`01:13.23`	`Wogroipl`	`it starts climbing again`
`01:13.29`	`snirks`	`average increasing rate 250.0 KiB/s`
`01:13.36`	`snirks`	`but spam closing+opening onebag`
`01:13.39`	`snirks`	`by*`
`01:13.41`	`Wogroipl`	`snirks: I don't use Onebag`
`01:13.41`	`sylvanaar`	`Arrowmaster: only because you you have a preconcieved notion of what it does`
`01:14.07`	`Barbanus`	`Wogroipl, how many addons do you have? how hard would it be for you to play wack-an-addon? :)`
`01:14.49`	`Wogroipl`	`Barbanus: http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/Luqu/AddonsFolder.jpg ;(`
`01:14.53`	`snirks`	`Wogroipl: are you using prat or chatmod?`
`01:15.04`	`Wogroipl`	`snirks: yes, I use Prat`
`01:15.05`	`Barbanus`	`Wogroipl, hehe that looks like mine`
`01:15.32`	`Barbanus`	`Wogroipl, try a /swstats nuke ?`
`01:15.37`	`Enalung`	`jesus, so much in that folder!`
`01:15.50`	`snirks`	`Wogroipl: if you are going for the wack a mole thing, try starting with prat`
`01:15.59`	`Wogroipl`	`Barbanus: okay, gonna try that`
`01:16.05`	`Barbanus`	`Wogroipl, if you are using a US client, you can kill sw_fixlogstrings, btw`
`01:16.11`	`sylvanaar`	`I need to know the the direct parent/child dependancies not some wierd combo`
`01:16.20`	`CIA-17`	`03arjuna * r24864 10simpleMinimap/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`01:16.20`	`CIA-17`	`simpleMinimap:`
`01:16.20`	`CIA-17`	`- quadrant math for dLx maps (thanks dwex)`
`01:16.21`	`CIA-17`	`- update TOC`
`01:16.21`	`CIA-17`	`- other goodies`
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`01:16.29`	`Barbanus`	`sw_fixlogstrings is for foreign characters`
`01:16.46`	`Wogroipl`	`I use enGB`
`01:16.47`	`sylvanaar`	`the libraries have TOC's in standalone`
`01:16.56`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Barbanus enUS doesnt know �� ? ^^`
`01:17.06`	`sylvanaar`	`so x-embeds is the wrong list`
`01:17.22`	`[Ammo]`	`barbanus: not really`
`01:17.29`	`[Ammo]`	`it fixes stuff for enUS as well`
`01:17.33`	`[Ammo]`	`so deleteing it is a bad idea`
`01:17.39`	`Barbanus`	`it also breaks stuff.`
`01:17.40`	`cynyr`	`wowo wo is running at like 30fps for like 3 seconds then at like 1 for 5 seconds...`
`01:18.12`	`sylvanaar`	`no, just that a bunch of other mods which use global strings cant work`
`01:18.15`	`Wogroipl`	`Barbanus: I nuked, increasing rate at 30KB/s and climbing :(`
`01:18.27`	`Wogroipl`	`guess I'll have to kill Prat ;)`
`01:18.34`	`sylvanaar`	`please do`
`01:18.35`	`Barbanus`	`Hold up`
`01:18.42`	`Enalung`	`thanks whoever suggested notepad++ it's going to speed up things a bit.`
`01:18.45`	`Nayon`	`Is Prat not working well?`
`01:18.47`	`sylvanaar`	`then go away`
`01:19.06`	`[Ammo]`	`prat works fine`
`01:19.07`	`Barbanus`	`Someone more knowledgable, does he need !!standalonelibries?`
`01:19.10`	`[Ammo]`	`some people talk out of their anus :p`
`01:19.16`	`Nayon`	`wew`
`01:19.37`	`snirks`	`=(`
`01:19.38`	`Enalung`	`I know a lot of those kind of peoples. There's an entire guild on my server of those...`
`01:19.57`	`[Ammo]`	`wogroipl: try disabling most addons`
`01:20.00`	`[Ammo]`	`and enabling them one by one`
`01:20.05`	`[Ammo]`	`and see which one causes the problem`
`01:20.20`	`[Ammo]`	`just randomly deleteing stuff because someone says so is not the solution`
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`01:20.35`	`Wogroipl`	`yeah, I know I can do that, but that would take half a year :P`
`01:20.47`	`sylvanaar`	`~luaser`
`01:20.49`	`purl`	`luaser is probably "Just tell me what i want to know so I dont have to waste my time, just yours"`
`01:21.10`	`[Ammo]`	`wogroipl: could be`
`01:21.19`	`Barbanus`	`Wogroipl, the only thing I can say for sure is that I see you have a lot of libraries in your main addons dir, if you are using like WAU with externals, you dont need those, not saying thats your problem, just commenting :)`
`01:21.23`	`break19`	`sylvanaar: did'ja see my little message about a typo in prat?`
`01:21.32`	`[Ammo]`	`barbanus: bullshit :p`
`01:21.37`	`Thorgard`	`Wogroipl, you don't need 'Prat_FuBar2'.`
`01:21.43`	`[Ammo]`	`I have almost the same addon folder as him`
`01:21.45`	`sylvanaar`	`i did`
`01:21.50`	`Wogroipl`	`I didn't delete anything just yet ;)`
`01:21.57`	`snirks`	`!!!standalonelibs is that`
`01:22.02`	`snirks`	`Barbanus`
`01:22.16`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Do I just have to local PT = AceLibrary("PeriodicTable-3.0") or should I do PT = AceLibrary("PeriodicTable-3.0-AllData") ?`
`01:22.21`	`[Ammo]`	`anyway, time to get some sleep`
`01:22.25`	`Barbanus`	`[Ammo], if he is using externals on all of his addons with WAU, its pointless to have them as standalones as well.`
`01:22.27`	`sylvanaar`	`[12 19:12] <break19> hey sylvanaar.. I notice a slight typo with login notifications, using pray`
`01:22.30`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: the first one.`
`01:22.32`	`Barbanus`	`but whatever.`
`01:22.38`	`Wogroipl`	`I update without externals`
`01:22.38`	`break19`	`sylvanaar: basically.. every time someone logs on, I get [Buris has logged on`
`01:22.38`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: okay`
`01:22.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`that wouldnt cause any ingame preformance issues though`
`01:23.02`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: and if you're just using the tradeskill data, i'd say just use "PeriodicTable-3.0-Tradeskill"`
`01:23.04`	`Barbanus`	`Wogroipl, ahh okay :)`
`01:23.13`	`break19`	`as an example... but it doesnt do it when they log off.. so just a slight typo.. if I knew which file, I could likely fix it :p`
`01:23.39`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: alright`
`01:23.39`	`Barbanus`	`Arrowmaster, no, except it would load the libraries for a ANOTHER unnessesary time :)`
`01:23.44`	`Wogroipl`	`Barbanus: I read a lot before I joined here, I am just not very good at coding :P`
`01:23.46`	`sylvanaar`	`break19: reported bug, who module is broken`
`01:23.52`	`Barbanus`	`Wogroipl, yea.`
`01:23.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`only on loading, then theres no difference`
`01:24.06`	`break19`	`alright.`
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`01:24.23`	`Barbanus`	`Arrowmaster, exactly, as I said, that wasnt his problem, it was just a comment.`
`01:24.36`	`Arrowmaster`	`Wogroipl: do you know what a binary search is?`
`01:24.49`	`break19`	`sylvanaar: I dont use the who module :p`
`01:24.54`	`Wogroipl`	`Arrowmaster: no sorry :(`
`01:25.12`	`Barbanus`	`Wogroipl, when did this start happening?`
`01:25.16`	`Wogroipl`	`btw with Prat disabled my increasing rate is 0.3 ;)`
`01:25.25`	`PProvost`	`I'm still trying to figure out what the chatwho module does anyway...`
`01:25.32`	`Wogroipl`	`Barbanus: this afternoon`
`01:25.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`ok nvm seems you found it`
`01:25.46`	`snirks`	`but some ppl talk out of their ass`
`01:25.53`	`sylvanaar`	`like you snirks`
`01:25.55`	`Barbanus`	`Wogroipl, re-enable Prat, read the modules, make sure you dont have any of them enabled that say they ahve performance issues`
`01:26.11`	`Wogroipl`	`okay`
`01:26.22`	`snirks`	`like the tab completion module if its set on all chat stuff`
`01:26.27`	`snirks`	`or whatever`
`01:26.43`	`Barbanus`	`I know there is one in particular that claims it can cause issues, sylvanaar would be able to tell you if thats the type of issue you are seeing, but I really dont know.`
`01:26.43`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: err`
`01:26.48`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: ?`
`01:26.55`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: PeriodicTable-3.0-Tradeskill doesn't work without externals?`
`01:26.57`	`sylvanaar`	`buttons`
`01:27.00`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: It's not in the PT3 TOC.`
`01:27.09`	`sylvanaar`	`but it is an onupdate thing`
`01:27.16`	`Barbanus`	`You can also try disabling modules in Prat 1 by 1, maybe you can find which one is the issue.`
`01:27.29`	`sylvanaar`	`and just disable it entirely`
`01:27.47`	`sylvanaar`	`and leave it off - because i dont even know what version it is`
`01:28.17`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: it's supposed to only be used as an embed -- it contains duplicate data of AllData. so people who run as a standalone will load only the AllData module, but they'll still have all the data that's within Tradeskill`
`01:28.40`	`sylvanaar`	`and as you can tell - im in a rotten mood`
`01:28.41`	`Barbanus`	`sylvanaar, you mean the buttons module?`
`01:28.44`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: yeah but AceLibrary("PeriodicTable-3.0-Tradeskill") will fail when running standalone.`
`01:28.52`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: or?`
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`01:28.57`	`Panye`	`how many addons do people use and what is their memory usage when soloing and raiding, mine currently when solo is between 24mb - 30mb, shoots up to about 45mb - 50mb when in a raid`
`01:29.01`	`break19`	`sylvanaar: cheer up.. it could be worse.. you're breathing aintcha?`
`01:29.12`	`FatherJim`	`We're up to 20004?`
`01:29.17`	`Barbanus`	`sylvanaar, yea I can tell, sounds like some idiot said something stupid`
`01:29.25`	`ckknight`	`no, fatbrain`
`01:29.28`	`ckknight`	`FatherJim*`
`01:29.29`	`snirks`	`panye, <20 when loitering about, <30 when raiding. around 27 if a big raid`
`01:29.29`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: use AceLibrary("PeriodicTable-3.0") regardless. the data embeds arent AceLibrary objects, they're just little data injectors`
`01:29.32`	`Wogroipl`	`Barbanus: where would it say the module has performance issues? does it show by color?`
`01:29.44`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: You don't see the problem?`
`01:29.44`	`snirks`	`Panye: rough numbers`
`01:29.48`	`FatherJim`	`I just got another update, and all my addons were out of date again...`
`01:29.49`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: It can't be this way.`
`01:29.58`	`Barbanus`	`Wogroipl, mousing over the module name in fubar`
`01:29.59`	`Thorgard`	`Panye, I got 125 folders, 23-30 solo, 40ish in raids.`
`01:30.06`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: how do you mean?`
`01:30.11`	`Barbanus`	`But its "Chatbuttons, or something like that`
`01:30.26`	`ckknight`	`FatherJim: just enable out-of-date addons`
`01:30.27`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: If people use anything other than PeriodicTable-3.0-AllData and run standalone, it will break.`
`01:30.27`	`Panye`	`snirks: how many addons you got running, I only have 80`
`01:30.36`	`snirks`	`Panye: 47`
`01:30.42`	`FatherJim`	`I did already, just checking to see if I need to modify my TOC before my next update`
`01:31.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`FatherJim: no, the 2.0.4 patch did not change the TOC`
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`01:31.54`	`Panye`	`here is a link to my addons http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3031/addonsyl1.gif, any suggestions on how to reduce memory??`
`01:32.05`	`Barbanus`	`FatherJim, patch 2.04 came out, but I dont think it was a toc change`
`01:32.11`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: all the data that's inside any of the mini embeds like Tradeskill must be inside AllData. AllData is the core, they're just subsets of it.`
`01:32.25`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: You're not following.`
`01:32.30`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: no, i'm not.`
`01:32.40`	`sylvanaar`	`nothing much changed in 2.04 in the framexml`
`01:32.47`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: I make an addon that uses PeriodicTable-3.0-Tradeskill, and only that.`
`01:32.52`	`Roartindon`	`I've been unable to access dev.wowace.com since the site went to reduced load mode after 2.0.3...can someone tell me what IP dev.wowace.com resolves to for them? Trying to pinpoint my troubles`
`01:33.07`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: I then download PeriodicTable-3.0 full and extract as a separate addon and delete my external libraries.`
`01:33.10`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: And it won't work.`
`01:33.13`	`Wogroipl`	`Barbanus: I'm not finding any modules that have issues, using r24742`
`01:33.18`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Running disembedded with PT3 doesn't work.`
`01:33.28`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Unless mods only use AllData.`
`01:33.39`	`snirks`	`Panye: you could for example use wardrobe2 instead of itemrack. but i dont have confirmed results`
`01:33.47`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: try it. it'll work, i swear.`
`01:34.12`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: How?`
`01:34.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Roartindon: 65.98.61.59`
`01:34.32`	`Roartindon`	`NightHawkTheSane: thanks`
`01:34.37`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: PeriodicTable-3.0-Tradeskill is a dead file if you run standalone, it's not referenced anywhere.`
`01:34.43`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: if they are running disembedded, the tradeskill sets are injected into PT by AllData. if they're using embeds, the tradeskill sets will be injected by the Tradeskill mini-embed. either way, the data's there.`
`01:35.04`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Yes, but the AceLibrary call will fail.`
`01:35.14`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: AceLibrary("PeriodicTable-3.0-Tradeskill")`
`01:35.16`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Will error.`
`01:35.26`	`Goeb`	`attempt to call a table value`
`01:35.29`	`Barbanus`	`Wogroipl, well it looks like the comment was removed, I cant find it either now.`
`01:35.33`	`Goeb`	`that means I need pairs() right?`
`01:35.51`	`Goeb`	`I'm losing my mind. it's not working :(`
`01:36.05`	`Wogroipl`	`Barbanus: I'll just disable them all and enable 1 by 1`
`01:36.08`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: AceLibrary calls on AllData will fail, too. always.`
`01:36.13`	`Goeb`	`and I'm trying to fix addons while kiting orcs in razorgore's room`
`01:36.46`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: So I should only ever use local PT = AceLibrary("PeriodicTable-3.0") ?`
`01:37.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`AceLibrary wont let you use anything other than Name-0.0`
`01:37.02`	`grennon`	`DONT KITE ORCS`
`01:37.05`	`grennon`	`kill them`
`01:37.17`	`Goeb`	`heh, havent' you heard?`
`01:37.24`	`grennon`	`still broken?`
`01:37.25`	`Goeb`	`the patch broke the event... they never stop spawning`
`01:37.33`	`snirks`	`rofl`
`01:37.35`	`grennon`	`they didnt fix that in the effing patch today?`
`01:37.37`	`Goeb`	`so I'm kiting like 30 of them`
`01:37.37`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: correct. just have PeriodicTable-3.0-Tradeskill.lua in your toc just under PeriodicTable-3.0.lua, and the data will be there, one way or the other.`
`01:37.45`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: okay`
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`01:37.58`	`Goeb`	`wait! I got it...`
`01:38.00`	`Goeb`	`I'll die :)`
`01:38.01`	`djspark`	`who's the bartender author?`
`01:38.11`	`Gngsk`	`nevcairiel`
`01:38.12`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: i should probably add some clarification to the API docs on how that works, heh.`
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`01:38.32`	`Barbanus`	`holy balls`
`01:38.40`	`Wogroipl`	`By the way, somehow ArkInventory doesn't play nice with the GetDKP addon`
`01:38.41`	`Barbanus`	`taintchecker is using 17MB of memory`
`01:38.55`	`grennon`	`Goeb: that happened to my guild yesterday, we kill orcs phase1, phase2 they kept spawning, but at least they helped us kill razorgore`
`01:39.08`	`sylvanaar`	`Barbanus: thats norma;`
`01:39.10`	`nevcairiel`	`Gngsk`
`01:39.22`	`sylvanaar`	`Barbanus: its a tool for developers`
`01:39.23`	`grennon`	`Goeb: to their credit, they got the kill, but we got the sparklies`
`01:39.26`	`Barbanus`	`sylvanaar, yea ... lol`
`01:39.29`	`grennon`	`Goeb: some groups dont get the sparklies`
`01:39.33`	`Barbanus`	`sylvanaar, i forgot to clear it :P`
`01:40.04`	`Goeb`	`yeah we got loot... we're doing loot while kiting.`
`01:40.14`	`Goeb`	`it's stupid ;)`
`01:40.17`	`Goeb`	`but kinda run`
`01:40.17`	`djspark`	`lol, is there any 'easy' way of adding snapping to the bar setup?`
`01:40.18`	`Goeb`	`fun`
`01:40.32`	`Goeb`	`we just zoned out and back in :) they stopped`
`01:40.35`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24865 10MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow: Convert to PeriodicTable-3.0.`
`01:40.46`	`djspark`	`because I've seen snapping in some addons but haven't seen it yet in bartender3`
`01:41.00`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24866 10MrPlow/ (Libs/ MrPlow.toc): MrPlow: And update TOC+libs.`
`01:41.24`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_frm/thread/833b7449a7e1507b/02197657467aa765#02197657467aa765`
`01:41.58`	`vhaarr`	`or, err, TRAC is probably up and running again.`
`01:42.05`	`vhaarr`	`http://wowace.com/trac/changeset/24865`
`01:42.53`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: not too painstaking, then?`
`01:43.14`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: not at all`
`01:43.17`	`RUBiK`	`is there some (aced) addon like uberquest or similar? i'm mostly looking for a second frame which shows quest text...`
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`01:43.27`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: :)`
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`01:43.48`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`RUBiK: FuBar_QuestFU`
`01:43.49`	`djspark`	`nevcairiel: has the snapping topic come up before with bartender?`
`01:43.54`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Now, since I've cleaned up the MrPlow source to a readable state, you should go in and see if you can make some PT optimizations.`
`01:44.03`	`Gngsk`	`djspark, snapping?`
`01:44.23`	`RUBiK`	`NightHawkTheSane: but i thought that was just for showing objectives, no? does it also modify the blizzard main quest frame?`
`01:44.24`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: And perhaps it should run a collectgarbage when it's done.`
`01:44.43`	`djspark`	`when you are dragging bars around they'll snap to each other's borders`
`01:44.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`RUBiK: ahh, no it doesn't change the quest log. It has it's own quest watcher and quest detail frame though.`
`01:44.56`	`Gngsk`	`djspark, oh yea, that's planned I believe.`
`01:44.59`	`djspark`	`so if I want two bars to be exactly beside each other I dont go crazy trying to get them exactly to the pixel`
`01:45.15`	`djspark`	`ok, I've seen it in other types of mods so I think there's some code for it out there already that can be...umm.. borrowed`
`01:45.21`	`RUBiK`	`ahh ok.. as long as i can see all the quest text in one long frame, it's cool.. i'll check it out.. thx`
`01:45.30`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: in MrPlow? sure, i'll take a look. And yes, i was thinking it should collectgarbage().. there isn't -too- much trash after it runs, is there?`
`01:45.48`	`Gngsk`	`djspark, yep it was implemented in BT2 if I recall correctly. Not sure if Cladhaire has updated the lib for 2.0 though.`
`01:45.51`	`djspark`	`Gngsk: cool, just thought I'd toss my vote in the hat for that feature ;-)`
`01:45.59`	`djspark`	`ckknight: did you get the pizza I sent last night?`
`01:46.03`	`cladhaire`	`Gngsk: It didn't need updating, as far as I know.. it could probaly use another set of eyes tho`
`01:46.28`	`ckknight`	`djspark: you don't even know my address`
`01:46.37`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Depends on your inventory, I guess.`
`01:46.49`	`Gngsk`	`cladhaire, oh, cool`
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`01:47.17`	`djspark`	`ckknight: darn, so I guess that's a -1 for a hover delay for tbc :-)`
`01:47.27`	`break19`	`hey.. where'd my castingbar go?? just starting using agUF - had the castingbar enabled on the frame... and it was working like that for a while.. but .. its gone... had to disable it, and go back to the bliz one :/`
`01:47.30`	`ckknight`	`pretty much`
`01:48.51`	`snirks`	`djspark: did you get my messages`
`01:49.06`	`djspark`	`snirks: no i didn't, when did you send them?`
`01:49.15`	`snirks`	`04:05`
`01:49.26`	`djspark`	`i wokeup to no power :-/`
`01:49.30`	`djspark`	`let me check logs`
`01:49.39`	`snirks`	`i sent them when you asked about snapping`
`01:49.42`	`snirks`	`4 mins ago`
`01:49.47`	`djspark`	`ohhhlol`
`01:50.07`	`djspark`	`nope, didn't get them`
`01:50.13`	`djspark`	`is your nick registered here on freenode?`
`01:50.21`	`snirks`	`no`
`01:50.35`	`djspark`	`they block all /msg's when you are not registered`
`01:50.40`	`djspark`	`do a /msg nickserv register`
`01:51.11`	`snirks`	`now?`
`01:51.40`	`djspark`	`got it`
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`01:54.37`	`Wogroipl`	`Barbanus: looks like the CHatbuttons Module is the culprit (sp?), when I enable that the increasing rate goes from 0.1 to 20`
`01:55.34`	`Barbanus`	`Thats what I thought it was.`
`01:55.42`	`break19`	`ok, I was able to get my casting bar back.. had to switch the frame layout and switch it back.. who wrote aguf?`
`01:55.49`	`Wogroipl`	`shame tho, I could do without them`
`01:56.34`	`Barbanus`	`haha Kruul is in IF`
`01:56.36`	`Hajitorus`	`break19: it's documented, but why do you need to know the author?`
`01:56.38`	`Barbanus`	`on Korgath US`
`01:56.50`	`break19`	`Hajitorus: oh.. i musta missed it then`
`01:57.04`	`Kirkburn`	break19, ag` wrote agUF
`01:57.05`	`break19`	`was gonna see if I could find his page, and scan his bug reports :p`
`01:57.07`	`snirks`	`break19: AndreasG`
`02:00.31`	`Barbanus`	`dude Kruul is impossible to kill when he is in IF, lol`
`02:01.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`i think thats true for most crowded places`
`02:01.58`	`Barbanus`	`haha true`
`02:02.05`	`Barbanus`	`fucking halarious tho`
`02:02.14`	`Kirkburn`	`Btw, 2.0.4 patch notes are on the wiki`
`02:02.20`	`Barbanus`	`Korgath US is anyone wants to check it out and haven't seen it`
`02:02.38`	`Wogroipl`	`we wiped 6 times when Kruul was in Durotar ;)`
`02:03.14`	`Wogroipl`	`then eventually all the ppl not in the raid stopped getting close, easy as pie then`
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`02:04.10`	`renchap`	`~x en fr spark`
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`02:05.12`	`kagaro`	`question: im going to re-write Talismonger tommarrow should i just remvoe version 1.0 and replace with 2.0 or make a new entry i.e. Talismonger-2.0/...`
`02:05.37`	`Tular`	`Is gmail dead? I dont see it on the website`
`02:05.38`	`Gngsk`	`tag 1.0, then commit 2.0`
`02:05.44`	`renchap`	`is there backward compatibility ?`
`02:06.25`	`kagaro`	`sorta, im gona make talismonger do the heavy lifting of listening and processing looting ore and herbs and have it fire events instead of several cart modules watching the event`
`02:06.32`	`renchap`	`if you replace with 2.0 and the two versions arent compatible you will break addons that depends on v1`
`02:06.53`	`kagaro`	`i release 1.o this morning .. I doubt anyone using it yet seriously`
`02:06.58`	`renchap`	`^^`
`02:07.53`	`grennon`	`Tular: GMail is now called Postal, but its still under heavy development`
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`02:09.58`	`renchap`	`grennon: can i start to translate postal or must i wait for a stable version ?`
`02:10.25`	`kergoth`	`am i missing something, or is the current branch version of buffalo saying "enable container to customize" for every container, but has no options to actually enable them?`
`02:10.40`	`grennon`	`have at it, im making sure to add local hooks to all the new modules btw`
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`02:10.59`	`grennon`	`so that all you have to do is add the translation`
`02:11.33`	`renchap`	`ok`
`02:11.55`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r24867 10kEnergy/ (frame.lua tick.lua): kEnergy: fix the bug where there was one extra bar tick upon reaching max energy`
`02:12.57`	`renchap`	`cant you create a locales dir with one file per lang ? or modules must be independant`
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`02:13.17`	`grennon`	`theres so little to translate its just easier to put in the mods themselves`
`02:13.28`	`renchap`	`oki`
`02:13.39`	`grennon`	`most things have 0-3 things to translate`
`02:14.12`	`CIA-17`	`03karlthepagan * r24868 10Grouper/ (15 files in 2 dirs):`
`02:14.12`	`CIA-17`	`Grouper:`
`02:14.12`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:14.13`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:14.41`	`grennon`	`this new module has me excited, it should appease all the people who wanted something like Mailto`
`02:15.12`	`cynyr`	`hmm evry sigle disk access makes my box lag out fr about a second...`
`02:15.13`	`grennon`	`too bad i got pulled into guild BWL so i cant test the final changes for a few hours :-)`
`02:15.26`	`djspark`	`"fubar has been blocked from an action only available to blizzard ui." --> Trackerfu`
`02:15.26`	`KarlThePagan`	`~seen Elkano`
`02:15.50`	`purl`	`elkano <n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-178.handshake.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 29m 50s ago, saying: 'KarlThePagan, won't help... I use it standalone... and QuestFu needs it'.`
`02:16.18`	`Nimloth\|w`	`cynyr thats happened to me since nov 23rd 2004`
`02:16.20`	`kenlyric\|home`	`anyone else notice that copper ore (and probably all ores) stack to 20 now?`
`02:16.31`	`Nimloth\|w`	`wow's file acces routines are horrible`
`02:16.55`	`cynyr`	`Nimloth\|w: thats and i only have 512MB ram...`
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`02:17.45`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`kenlyric\|home: yea they changed that a few patches ago IIRC`
`02:18.07`	`KarlThePagan`	`no just this last patch`
`02:18.13`	`KarlThePagan`	`2.0.3 ore's stack in 20's`
`02:18.19`	`KarlThePagan`	`i've been mining recently ;)`
`02:18.29`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`oh`
`02:18.29`	`kenlyric\|home`	`damn, my mules suddenly got a lot of space.`
`02:18.39`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`well they changed the stacks for other things a few patches ago`
`02:18.59`	`cynyr`	`OvrLrd-Q: leatherworking mats and poisons...`
`02:19.13`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea leather and such in 1.12 i think`
`02:20.44`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24869 10MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow: Minor cleanup to PT code. collectgarbage() after plowing.`
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`02:23.02`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: ^`
`02:23.10`	`vhaarr`	`yay`
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`02:23.56`	`nymbia`	`didnt do much, just got rid of some unnecessary manipulation of args`
`02:24.33`	`Nimloth\|w`	`hmm :o what is the ping time out on this network`
`02:24.46`	`Nimloth\|w`	`my other nick has been dead without connection for 18 minutes or something`
`02:24.53`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: oh, okay.`
`02:25.17`	`vhaarr`	`Nimloth\|w: Doesn't matter when there's a nickserv, does it?`
`02:25.46`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`probably wasn't registered :)`
`02:26.20`	`Nimloth\|w`	`that means i need to register tho :P`
`02:27.41`	`renchap`	`is it an ace mod to display quest progress of party member ?`
`02:30.04`	`Neebler`	`is it /nr for a new line?`
`02:31.57`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r24870 10FuBar_CorkFu/ (10 files): FuBar_CorkFu - Everything should be converted over for 2.0 now...`
`02:32.14`	`Vanish`	`Is it just me, or does the new patch suck?`
`02:32.20`	`vhaarr`	`Anyone volunteer to update http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon to reflect the fact that !!!Libraries doesn't exist any more?`
`02:32.23`	`vhaarr`	`Vanish: It sucks.`
`02:32.32`	`Vanish`	`SLower than mud...`
`02:35.47`	`ckknight`	`Vanish: hey, don't you be dissing mud.`
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`02:36.36`	`Vanish`	`ckknight: LOL`
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`02:38.04`	`Neebler`	`is there anything like this?: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4125.0`
`02:38.36`	`Kirkburn`	`2.0.5 patch is coming very soon (or already?). Slouken: "FYI, the fixes previously listed for 2.0.5 are now happening in 2.0.6. An emergency 2.0.5 patch is being created to address a hardware issue."`
`02:38.49`	`nymbia`	`wow, rapid-fire.`
`02:38.57`	`ckknight`	`lol, srsly, Blizzard is sucking balls right now.`
`02:39.02`	`CIA-17`	`03neriak * r24871 10AH_Wipe/AH_Wipe.toc:`
`02:39.02`	`CIA-17`	`AH_Wipe:`
`02:39.02`	`CIA-17`	`- TOC update for version 20003`
`02:39.11`	`ckknight`	`like full on, both at once`
`02:40.08`	`CIA-17`	`03neriak * r24872 10AH_Wipe/AH_Wipe.lua:`
`02:40.08`	`CIA-17`	`AH_Wipe:`
`02:40.08`	`CIA-17`	`- forgot to touch core for updating version and date`
`02:40.27`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`2.0.5 already? and probably .6 soonish. WTS [Competant Testers]`
`02:40.46`	`Kirkburn`	`Hoi, testing a game is hard`
`02:40.55`	`Neebler`	`http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/deals/dealzmodo-4gb-usb-drive-for-1499-222564.php`
`02:41.29`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Kirkburn: yeah, it's real hard to test kicking someone out of a raid and realizing "hey, it didn't kick the right person" Cause you know, i -never- would have thought to test that.`
`02:41.46`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`(that, by the way, was sarcasm. :P)`
`02:41.47`	`ckknight`	`Neebler: sounds interesting.`
`02:41.51`	`Kirkburn`	`WoW is a big game, it's hard to test everything`
`02:42.28`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`But that's what you pay testers for. It's their job. I can see some really obscure stuff getting through, but when it's really basic stuff.. :\`
`02:43.51`	`Kirkburn`	`What, kicking someone from a raid?`
`02:43.57`	`Kirkburn`	`How often do _you_ do that?`
`02:44.37`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`typically every raid`
`02:44.45`	`Kirkburn`	`Assuming Blizz had a 40 man raid, that's generally one person who can do it, which already reduces the chances, plus why would a tester kick someone?`
`02:44.48`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: It's what we talked about some time ago.`
`02:44.59`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: AceAddon/AceComm thingy.`
`02:45.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Kirkburn: to test kicking, obviously.`
`02:45.25`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: His forum link, that is.`
`02:45.25`	`kenlyric\|home`	`the other thing is that they appear to tweak patches up to the moment they are finalised for being pushed out, so it's possible late changes introduce new unexpected functionality.`
`02:45.32`	`vhaarr`	`didn't see that other link.`
`02:45.41`	`Kirkburn`	`Fine, whatever, I'm just saying it's a lot to test in a short period of time`
`02:45.42`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr: hrm... yea, not sure if we want to put it in AceAddon/AceComm directly...`
`02:45.55`	`Kirkburn`	`I'm noticing PT3? When did that start?`
`02:46.06`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: That's the beauty of it, then everyone gets it.`
`02:46.07`	`ckknight`	`though it would be pretty easy...`
`02:46.20`	`vhaarr`	`provided they have acecomm`
`02:46.22`	`ckknight`	`well, maybe have it be like a ping/pong deal.`
`02:46.27`	`ckknight`	`ping BigWigs`
`02:46.44`	`ckknight`	`if they have it, pong BigWigs true, otherwise pong BigWigs false`
`02:46.49`	`Kirkburn`	`I don't see frequent patches as particularly bad, more fixes, quicker :)`
`02:46.57`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Or don't reply at all.`
`02:47.00`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Less traffic.`
`02:47.00`	`kenlyric\|home`	`besides, 7 million users find bugs a LOT faster than any size bug testing team they have :)`
`02:47.14`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr: hrm, not sure about that.`
`02:47.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Kirkburn: yeah it is, but like i said, it's the testers job to test everything, even the stupidly obvious things. If there wasnt enough time, then it was a concious decision to release content that was not fully tested. :P`
`02:47.18`	`Kirkburn`	`Any size up to 7 million, of course ;)`
`02:47.23`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Can't guarantee that everyone will respond anyway, so you must have a 5sec timeout or something.`
`02:47.28`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: So ping false is not needed.`
`02:47.34`	`Kirkburn`	`You _cannot_ test everything, that's my whole point`
`02:47.35`	`renchap`	`Kirkburn: 8 million now ^^`
`02:47.39`	`Kirkburn`	`renchap, lol true`
`02:47.50`	`Herio`	`anyone know if i can hide the maintaink in the maintank frames in ORA?`
`02:47.53`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr: hrm, maybe.`
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`02:48.03`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Well, that's how the bigwigs version query does it.`
`02:48.07`	`Herio`	`i only want the target >.>`
`02:48.11`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: It broadcasts and then waits 5sec for replies.`
`02:48.13`	`Kirkburn`	`What's up with kicking from raids anyway? :)`
`02:48.15`	`CIA-17`	`03miles * r24873 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames - Small rewrite of buff/debuff scanning for Weakened Soul debuff exception, more can be added if needed. WARN: Code is totally new / experimental `
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`02:48.36`	`ckknight`	`where would one buy laptop ram?`
`02:48.40`	`Herio`	`did they fix that in 2.0.4?`
`02:48.52`	`Kirkburn`	`ckknight, the laptop seller`
`02:48.58`	`Miles`	`2.0.4?`
`02:49.08`	`Kirkburn`	`www.wowwiki.com/2.0.4`
`02:49.23`	`Kirkburn`	`Pushed out today to US, no idea about EU`
`02:49.35`	`Kirkburn`	`Also, 2.0.5 is incoming`
`02:49.48`	`Kirkburn`	`I shouldn't be surprised if 2.0.6 is tuesday`
`02:50.23`	`Kirkburn`	`They may hold that one back in case the release introduces major problems`
`02:50.32`	`Kirkburn`	`(so they can fix them too)`
`02:50.43`	`break19`	`ckknight: what type of ram does it use?`
`02:50.46`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I think release will introduce a major problem on the account management page :)`
`02:50.47`	`Kirkburn`	`(release of TBC, that is)`
`02:50.52`	`Kirkburn`	`kenlyric\|home, lol`
`02:51.09`	`grennon`	`kenlyric\|home: thats what i figure`
`02:51.10`	`kenlyric\|home`	`am I undertanding correctly that we have to input our new key and upgrade our accounts on the management page?`
`02:51.18`	`break19`	`ckknight: most likely, it uses SO-DIMM's.. what kind of laptop?`
`02:51.26`	`kenlyric\|home`	`far bigger bottleneck than the login servers, imho.`
`02:51.26`	`Kirkburn`	`kenlyric\|home, there's an upgrade page (currently locked)`
`02:51.30`	`ckknight`	`Compaq, this is for a friend`
`02:52.02`	`break19`	`compaq... know the model?`
`02:52.04`	`Kirkburn`	`ckknight, it's best to get it from the original laptop supplier, since they often use specific RAM for each laptop :/`
`02:52.11`	`CIA-17`	`03miles * r24874 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames - Quickfix #1 for the new debuff filter.`
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`02:52.34`	`Kirkburn`	`Also, make sure he has space :P I thought I did until I looked underneath :(`
`02:52.53`	`Kemayo`	`Ooo, Postal in trunk.`
`02:53.01`	`break19`	`Kirkburn: not exactly...`
`02:53.06`	`Kirkburn`	`Compaq should list the required type, so you may be able to find it elsewhere`
`02:53.19`	vid`	`http://www.thelocal.se/6076/20070112/`
`02:53.33`	`Kirkburn`	`break19, I'm not saying it's unique to the laptop =)`
`02:53.37`	`Miles`	`oO? GetBuildInfo is still saying 2.0.3 here`
`02:53.38`	`break19`	`just like any good computer manufacturer, they want you to buy upgrades from THEM, not from anywhere else.. :)`
`02:54.01`	`Kirkburn`	`Natch`
`02:54.07`	`CIA-17`	`03arjuna * r24875 10simpleMinimap/simpleMinimap.lua:`
`02:54.07`	`CIA-17`	`simpleMinimap:`
`02:54.07`	`CIA-17`	`- issue with expanded minimap`
`02:54.26`	`Mimesis`	`ok so, my aguf party frames are off my screen somehow, editing the savedvars does nothing to move them, any ideas?`
`02:54.26`	`Kirkburn`	`Which is why Dell sells 2gig USB keys for £80 with a PC. £80 is nearly 5 times what I paid for mine ...`
`02:54.32`	`Vanish`	`BAH! Stoopid WoW has hung twice on me`
`02:54.49`	`Kirkburn`	`Vanish, hard lock or soft lock?`
`02:55.11`	`Sparhawke`	`kirkburn where are you reading this`
`02:55.13`	`Sparhawke`	`about the patches`
`02:55.13`	`break19`	`ckknight: most of your local computer stores should carry so-dimm memory.. it just depends on what type it needs.. speed-wise that is..`
`02:55.22`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Kirkburn: it appeals to the lazy. You have to pay for lazy.`
`02:55.51`	`Kirkburn`	`Sparhawke, slouken posted it`
`02:56.02`	`Kirkburn`	`Slouken: "FYI, the fixes previously listed for 2.0.5 are now happening in 2.0.6. An emergency 2.0.5 patch is being created to address a hardware issue."`
`02:56.17`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r24876 10sct/ (12 files in 2 dirs):`
`02:56.17`	`CIA-17`	`sct:`
`02:56.17`	`CIA-17`	`- Added Diablo Font.`
`02:56.17`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed Chat Tab Tainting.`
`02:56.17`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed Rampage event to use 20 rage.`
`02:56.18`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed Overhealing bug.`
`02:56.20`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed Gap Slider not working on all frames.`
`02:56.24`	`abyssichate`	`diablo font`
`02:56.25`	`Kirkburn`	`Vanish, I think 2.0.5 might be to fix it?`
`02:56.27`	`abyssichate`	`drooling!`
`02:56.37`	`Kirkburn`	`Odd name for a font :P`
`02:56.48`	`ilifin`	`wait, they're pushing out 2.0.4, 2.0.5, 2.0.6 right after tbc comes?`
`02:56.59`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r24877 10sct_options/ (9 files):`
`02:56.59`	`CIA-17`	`sct_options:`
`02:56.59`	`CIA-17`	`- Added Diablo Font.`
`02:56.59`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed Chat Tab Tainting.`
`02:56.59`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed Rampage event to use 20 rage.`
`02:56.59`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed Overhealing bug.`
`02:57.01`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed Gap Slider not working on all frames.`
`02:57.12`	`ilifin`	`diablo font`
`02:57.18`	`Sparhawke`	`is that in the UI forums?`
`02:57.21`	`Kirkburn`	`Yay for grayhoof =)`
`02:57.26`	`Kirkburn`	`Sparhawke, yes`
`02:57.51`	`ilifin`	`should ook awesome with diablo text popping up`
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`02:58.21`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`diablo font?`
`02:58.32`	`Kirkburn`	`The font from Diablo & Diablo 2`
`02:58.51`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`can't say I've played either of those :)`
`02:59.02`	`Kirkburn`	`Quite "gothic"`
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`02:59.21`	`Kirkburn`	`Here: http://www.smackbomb.com/famousfonts/fonts/diablo.html`
`03:00.06`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`ah`
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`03:01.47`	`Neebler`	`http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ef5c495b3a`
`03:01.48`	`Neebler`	`rofl`
`03:02.24`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`arg hurry up blizz downloader :(`
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`03:04.42`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r24878 10sctd/ (10 files):`
`03:04.42`	`CIA-17`	`sctd:`
`03:04.42`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed Miss events showing ParserLib internal variables.`
`03:04.42`	`CIA-17`	`- Cleaned up localization.`
`03:05.13`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r24879 10sctd_options/ (8 files):`
`03:05.13`	`CIA-17`	`sctd_options:`
`03:05.13`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed Miss events showing ParserLib internal variables.`
`03:05.13`	`CIA-17`	`- Cleaned up localization.`
`03:05.13`	`CIA-17`	`03miles * r24880 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames - Quick fix #2: setting AuraFilter isn't a boolean or nil, it's one or zero.. Adjusted if statement.`
`03:05.33`	`CIA-17`	`03murazorz * r24881 10ColaMachine/Core.lua:`
`03:05.33`	`CIA-17`	`ColaMachine:`
`03:05.33`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:05.33`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:05.33`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:08.35`	`Vanish`	`Hmmm... seems like every 4th drink I hang...`
`03:09.37`	`Tain`	`I have that problem in real life.`
`03:11.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`only after 4 drinks though Tain?`
`03:13.32`	`Mimesis`	`does anyone know if there is a fubar module to encorporate macrosbuttons onto the fubar`
`03:14.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Hmm. in the blizzard raid interface, i have an option to promote someone to Main Assist.. what does that DO?`
`03:14.59`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`and is that an addon or base functionality, if the latter.. how long has it been there? o_0`
`03:16.43`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24882 10GrindStatus/ (GrindStatus.lua GrindStatus.toc libs/): GrindStatus: Convert to PeriodicTable-3.0`
`03:17.00`	`durcyn`	`NightHawkTheSane: base ui, as of 2.0`
`03:18.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`durcyn: fascinating. I havn't raided since before then so didn't even notice.`
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`03:20.08`	vid`	`wtf`
`03:20.10`	vid`	`another patch?`
`03:20.17`	vid`	`lol`
`03:20.27`	vid`	`i just fired up wow finally and noticed it patched to 2.0.4 :P`
`03:20.29`	`renchap`	`a feature to add to cartographer : http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/1124/guildmap/`
`03:20.31`	vid`	`hrmz`
`03:20.43`	`renchap`	`2.0.5 soon ^^`
`03:22.03`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`durcyn: so, is there built in frames for the MT/MA options? i can't find them...`
`03:22.18`	`Wogroipl`	`Arrowmaster, I just found out what a binary search is ;)`
`03:23.37`	`Vanish`	`I <3 GuildMap`
`03:24.43`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`guildmap is nice`
`03:27.20`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`panza people write that or did they just include it?`
`03:27.48`	`Herio`	`there are no MT options in the default UI...`
`03:27.59`	`Herio`	`unless they added it pretty recently`
`03:28.21`	`durcyn`	`NightHawkTheSane: don't know about frames, but there are functions to ues them in macros, /target, and /assist`
`03:28.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hmmmm...`
`03:28.33`	`Herio`	`...`
`03:28.37`	`Herio`	`hrm`
`03:28.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`interesting. I totally missed those, apparently`
`03:28.48`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`That's really neat, though`
`03:28.59`	`durcyn`	`the Main Tank thing was in the patch notes, Main Assist was a surprise`
`03:29.17`	`Herio`	`wow that's interesting`
`03:29.29`	`Herio`	`now i need to find a key to bind assist MA to =P`
`03:29.43`	`durcyn`	`i need to find teh syntax =P maintank and mainassist aren't working atm`
`03:30.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i need to read patch notes a little closer, it seems`
`03:30.43`	`break19`	`tanaris just crashed`
`03:30.49`	`durcyn`	`the 'focus' unit token works, but that's all`
`03:30.58`	`durcyn`	`of the new ones, rather`
`03:31.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah, i knew about focus`
`03:31.36`	`break19`	`i guess I'll use this time to update. :p`
`03:32.01`	`DrZoot_`	`does anyone know if theyve upped the drop rate of larval acid? prices have gone really weird on my server's ah`
`03:32.22`	`kenlyric\|home`	`heh. Prices on everything have gone a little wierd.`
`03:32.30`	`Wogroipl`	`just had a nice read ;)http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381215&sid=1`
`03:32.37`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah, the economy is going to be wonky for a while`
`03:32.42`	`Wogroipl`	`don't visit US forums much`
`03:33.02`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Wogroipl: put spaces around urls so those of us who are lazy can just click them :)`
`03:33.20`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I haven't noticed anything, but i don't grind grubbs endlessly.`
`03:33.26`	`Wogroipl`	`oh I'm sorry, I can click just fine ;)`
`03:33.40`	`*** join/#wowace Prophyy (i=prophy@cpe-66-65-84-109.nyc.res.rr.com)`
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`03:34.20`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ahh, my x-chat wont make that clicky for me :\ no worrires though :)`
`03:34.22`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`er, "worries"`
`03:35.03`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`ditto with mIRC since the sminey :)`
`03:35.05`	`break19`	`NightHawkTheSane: thats cuz he left out the space betweeen his smiley and the start of the url :)`
`03:35.16`	`break19`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381215&sid=1 is better`
`03:35.21`	`Kirkburn`	`OvrLrd-Q, regarding GuildMap, yes afair`
`03:35.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`break19: i know, hence what i said a few lines ago. :)`
`03:35.29`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r24883 10ag_UnitFrames/ (6 files in 2 dirs):`
`03:35.29`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames`
`03:35.29`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:35.30`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:35.39`	`Wogroipl`	`yeah I understand, I'll try to make it better next time :D`
`03:35.51`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Hehe, it's not a huge deal, just me being lazy :)`
`03:36.00`	`break19`	`yay! I beat the bot :p`
`03:36.09`	`Wogroipl`	`heh, and me trying to help you with that`
`03:36.14`	`break19`	`<- alrdy downloaded that one.. about 30s ago :p`
`03:37.27`	`break19`	ag`: love the look.. however, might I make a slight request: replace the bouncing ? in portraits you cant see, with a bliz default portrait? :)
`03:38.19`	`Vanish`	Hiya ag`_
`03:39.11`	ag`_	`hi`
`03:39.15`	`Vanish`	`\|Kev\|: ping`
`03:39.29`	ag`_	`break19: yeah I might change that in the future`
`03:40.06`	`Chompers`	`bouncing?`
`03:40.18`	`Vanish`	ag`_: I still can't get Auras to grow UP/DOWN. Guess I'm an idiot. Heh
`03:40.20`	`break19`	`oh, and slight placement bug, with the compact frames... the "resting state" icon doesnt seem to be attached to the frame anywhere...`
`03:40.42`	`break19`	`it shows.. its just free floating and I cant move it..`
`03:40.43`	ag`_	`Vanish: that's because the aura layout function needs code for UP / DOWN growth`
`03:40.58`	`Vanish`	`See! That's what I thought, but people told me it worked`
`03:41.19`	ag`_	`it should be really simple to add`
`03:41.29`	`Kirkburn`	`Bumbling is also fun, try that`
`03:41.31`	`Vanish`	`Yeah, It looked like it would be. Might try in a bit`
`03:41.57`	`Kirkburn`	`Ahh, you bugger!`
`03:42.04`	`break19`	`hey! watch it.. that almost splashed me`
`03:42.48`	`Vanish`	`I need to get these icons for MAU packaged up for \|Kev\| before I can ply with ag_UF more`
`03:43.11`	`Kirkburn`	`Is there a LAU?`
`03:43.16`	`break19`	`oooo.. you made him icons! yay`
`03:43.16`	`*** join/#wowace Spark420 (i=Spark420@unaffiliated/spark420)`
`03:43.17`	`Spark420`	`Whoa.`
`03:43.29`	`Spark420`	`I have an issue with ag_Unit Frames`
`03:43.34`	`break19`	`Kirkburn: yea, its called javaaceupdater :p`
`03:43.36`	`Kirkburn`	`The shock of entering an IRC channel can be great, it is true`
`03:43.36`	`pastamancer`	`like far out`
`03:43.56`	`Vanish`	`JAU didn't work for me at all...`
`03:44.03`	`Spark420`	`My pet's unit frame is stuck in the upper-left hand corner of the screen and I can't move it and wondering what the slash command is for AG Unit Frames.`
`03:44.23`	ag`_	`mm... /aguf`
`03:44.32`	ag`_	`and there's a fubar plugin/minimap icon too`
`03:44.34`	`Kirkburn`	`What a wild stab in the dark!`
`03:44.45`	`Miles`	hey ag`
`03:44.45`	`Vanish`	`THe FuBar plugin is easier`
`03:44.50`	ag`_	`Miles: hi`
`03:44.54`	ag`_	`what's up?`
`03:44.55`	`Miles`	`seen the little debuff overhaul yet? :P`
`03:45.03`	ag`_	`no, where?`
`03:45.09`	`break19`	`spark, alt-drag it.`
`03:45.15`	`pastamancer`	`heya Miles`
`03:45.28`	`Spark420`	`Alt-Drag doesn't work.`
`03:45.31`	`Spark420`	`I've tried.`
`03:45.43`	`break19`	`maybe you have them locked.`
`03:45.47`	`break19`	`the frames, i mean`
`03:45.59`	`Miles`	`aura stuff, it's UnitDebuff all of them, save in a cache and sort it out later. finally the Weakened Soul feature is back`
`03:46.14`	`Spark420`	`Fixed.`
`03:46.22`	ag`_	`Miles: cool`
`03:46.34`	ag`_	`Miles: I was thinking that we could need something like grid`
`03:46.46`	ag`_	`where people could add/remove buffs they want visible`
`03:46.53`	ag`_	`dunno`
`03:46.55`	`Miles`	`yea`
`03:47.28`	`Miles`	`it's possible to implement that, maybe in a plugin`
`03:48.02`	ag`_	`yeah`
`03:48.19`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r24884 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (FuBar_QuestsFu.toc QuestsFu.lua):`
`03:48.19`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_QuestsFu:`
`03:48.20`	`CIA-17`	`-Get rid of the old mess of item tooltip hooking, replace with cleaner method introduced in 2.0.3.`
`03:48.20`	`CIA-17`	`-Bump toc.`
`03:48.29`	ag`_	`Miles: I added something right now`
`03:48.31`	`Fisker-`	`Moar like debuff stacking`
`03:48.37`	`Miles`	`k, not touching anything`
`03:48.40`	`Fisker-`	`I hate eleventy billion deep wounds`
`03:48.51`	ag`_	`Miles: it's already committed... has nothing to do with auras`
`03:48.52`	`kenlyric\|home`	`man, lots of fun updates tonight.`
`03:49.02`	`Miles`	`heh, saw the note`
`03:49.05`	`Vanish`	`kemayo, does that fix the Click in Tracker to view details that no longer works since 2.0.4?`
`03:49.07`	`Fisker-`	`yeah`
`03:49.14`	`Fisker-`	`some stuff just changed over to PT3`
`03:49.19`	`Fisker-`	`and haven't put that in standalone yet`
`03:49.20`	`Fisker-`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:49.31`	ag`_	`It works pretty cool, though it's kinda resource demanding to change raid set in a 40 man raid`
`03:49.38`	`Vanish`	`Speaking of which, why s there a PT3?`
`03:49.40`	`Kemayo`	`Vanish: I hadn't noticed anything not working. Elaborate?`
`03:49.41`	ag`_	`generates some trash`
`03:49.48`	`Miles`	`heh, nevermind that`
`03:50.01`	`Antiar1`	`Hm.`
`03:50.09`	`Miles`	`1 table = 16 bytes. my limit is 128M. don't care :P`
`03:50.17`	`Antiar1`	`2.0.4 broke my FuBar's ability to sort and hold widgets.`
`03:50.23`	`Antiar1`	`I should probably try an update.`
`03:50.23`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`Vanish: because 1 and 2 was already taken :D`
`03:50.31`	`Vanish`	`Kemayo: in the custom Quest Tracker, I can't click the uest title to view the details screen without playing around modifier-clicking all over the tracker till it happens to pop up. Worked fine last night`
`03:50.59`	`Fisker-`	`Vanish because it was updated? :P`
`03:51.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Kemayo: since you're here. :) Toying with the new details pane, when I tried to move it it kept "snapping" to various parts of the screen. Usually edges of the screen, but sometimes seemingly-random parts of the screen too.`
`03:51.41`	`Kemayo`	`Vanish: I don't have that problem. Did you lock the tracker?`
`03:51.45`	`Vanish`	`I figured that, guys. :P I meant what was wrong with PT2 that a whole new versio had to be made. That's 3 wee need to keep up wit now until the legacy crap gets updated`
`03:52.04`	`Thrae`	`PT3 is probably for BC.`
`03:52.07`	`Vanish`	`Kemayo: I hadn't, but come to think of it, it never moved the whole time I clicked away either...`
`03:52.15`	`Kemayo`	`NightHawkTheSane: It behaves however Tablet behaves, so quirks can be taken up with ckknight. :)`
`03:52.20`	`Goeb`	`CastSpellByName("somespell",0)`
`03:52.21`	`Goeb`	`why doesn't this work anymore?`
`03:52.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`heh, okay`
`03:52.44`	`Vanish`	`NightHawkTheSane: I'll join you in that. Was happening to me too`
`03:52.45`	`Spark420`	`LUA is for noobs.`
`03:52.47`	`Kemayo`	`Vanish: If it's only responding to alt-clicks, then it presumably got licked.`
`03:52.47`	`*** part/#wowace Spark420 (i=Spark420@unaffiliated/spark420)`
`03:52.48`	`Thrae`	`Goeb: See 2.0 changes. It's now a protected function.`
`03:53.09`	`Vanish`	`Kemayo: Well, it only responded to alt-clicks at random too, heh. I'll see if that's the problem in a bit then`
`03:53.21`	`Thrae`	`Goeb: You must now register the spell cast by a frame you click, and this registration process can only be done outside of combat.`
`03:54.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Kemayo: oh also, right-clicking on the display pane and trying to close it didn't work. shrug`
`03:54.13`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`but clicking the name in the questfu tooltip would close it`
`03:55.11`	`Kemayo`	`The right-click close on the tablet only closes the menu. Right now the only ways to close the tablet are to click again in questsfu or to click on the title.`
`03:55.18`	`Kemayo`	`I need to make that more obvious.`
`03:55.25`	`Vanish`	`I was clicking the title`
`03:55.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ahh, okay`
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`04:02.10`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: t.t
`04:02.18`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r24885 10kEnergy/ (addon.lua frame.lua tick.lua): kEnergy: Fix standby handling, fix adrenaline rush handling, add 'debuglevel' to aceoptions, set ordering of our options.`
`04:02.30`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: You're still messing up indenting with your checkins. Your editor suxxors.
`04:02.42`	`Fisker-`	`has mr. plow been updated recently?`
`04:02.52`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`04:02.56`	`Thrae`	`Fisker-: What's wrong with it?`
`04:02.56`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`there was a checkin earlier today`
`04:03.00`	ag`_	`vhaarr: I am using scite`
`04:03.06`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: Well, you're using spaces.
`04:03.09`	`Thrae`	ag`_: wowinterface release?
`04:03.15`	`Fisker-`	`Well usually when i run it and it's done it will not sort the second time i run it`
`04:03.16`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: Not all over the place now, but on some lines.
`04:03.16`	ag`_	`where do I make it scite not crap out`
`04:03.26`	ag`_	`Thrae: not yet`
`04:03.28`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: That sentence didn't make sense.`
`04:03.33`	`Fisker-`	`:(`
`04:03.36`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: Why would it sort twice?`
`04:03.38`	`Thrae`	`cladhaire posted his own version of SCiTE`
`04:03.48`	ag`_	`Thrae: oh yes that's the one I use`
`04:04.05`	`Kemayo`	ag`_: Options->"open lua.properties". Add the line "use.tabs=1" to that file, and then restart SciTE.
`04:04.13`	`Kemayo`	`I think that should do it, anyway.`
`04:04.27`	`Fisker-`	`Well i use the works to sort things, when it's done usually it would not go through things again when doing the works a second time right after`
`04:04.28`	`Thrae`	`I use gvim myself because it has better syntaxing then SCiTE`
`04:04.34`	`Fisker-`	`as the inventory is already sorted`
`04:04.40`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: But now it does?`
`04:04.40`	`Thrae`	`s/syntaxing/syntax highlighting/`
`04:04.43`	`Fisker-`	`yeah`
`04:04.46`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: hrm`
`04:04.50`	`Thrae`	`Fisker-: Doesn't do it for me`
`04:04.56`	ag`_	`Kemayo: thanks`
`04:04.58`	`Vanish`	`I use TextMate. It's the shiznit of ll code editors. ;)`
`04:05.03`	`Fisker-`	`Mine keeps trying to rearrange the cloth i have`
`04:05.27`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: It doesn't for me.`
`04:05.32`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: Clicking it again does nothing.`
`04:05.39`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: I have both silk and mageweave in my bags.`
`04:05.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Vanish: i <3 bbedit :P`
`04:06.02`	`Fisker-`	`Does your version do like a GC in the middle?`
`04:06.05`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Is it possible that ItemInSet(..., true) returns different values every time it's called?`
`04:06.07`	`Fisker-`	`Cause it seems like that now`
`04:06.11`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: in the middle?`
`04:06.13`	`*** join/#wowace Sn4keBite (i=jonbh98@84.211.3.62)`
`04:06.13`	`vhaarr`	`wtf`
`04:06.16`	`Fisker-`	`yeah while it's running`
`04:06.17`	`Vanish`	`NightHawkTheSane: You are SO missing out. I left BBEdit last March and have't looked back. Not once`
`04:06.20`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: It should do a GC at the end of a plow.`
`04:06.20`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r24886 10Postal/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Postal: -Postal_BlackBook: Adds a popup contact list when you mouseover the To: field. The MailTo killer.`
`04:06.22`	`vhaarr`	`lol`
`04:06.28`	`Fisker-`	`ah ok`
`04:06.28`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: Okay, that's nymbia's doing.`
`04:06.32`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: Let me check.`
`04:06.34`	`Fisker-`	`That's whats mine is doing then`
`04:06.41`	ag`_	`vhaarr: I think I have it working now with tabs`
`04:06.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Vanish: missing out on precisly what? I can't think of anything that BBEdit doesnt do that i'd want it to`
`04:06.54`	`grennon`	`that ought to get a bunch of users off my back`
`04:07.04`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: i put it where i saw UnregisterEvents(), seemed like a good spot, but it may very well be wrong.`
`04:07.07`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: you should get an editor that shows hidden characters
`04:07.10`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: ah`
`04:07.13`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: I'm not sure, let me check.`
`04:07.15`	`Vanish`	`Speed, extreme versatility, active development, strong community support... ;)`
`04:07.29`	`Fisker-`	yeah ag`_ HINT HINT
`04:07.29`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`... bbedit has all of those. :P`
`04:07.30`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: And you changed all the line endings.`
`04:07.36`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: In MrPlow.lua.`
`04:07.38`	`Vanish`	`NightHawkTheSane: Umm.. no`
`04:07.51`	`grennon`	`someone want to try Postal_Blackbook after the zip file updates? its very lightly tested right now`
`04:07.56`	ag`_	`vhaarr: what editor? I don't feel like using vim`
`04:07.57`	ag`_	`:P`
`04:07.59`	`Fisker-`	`sure grennon`
`04:08.02`	`*** part/#wowace obelus (i=obelus@dsl092-133-089.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net)`
`04:08.03`	`grennon`	`cool`
`04:08.15`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: Then I have no idea. What's wrong with cream/gvim?
`04:08.15`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: damn, sorry.`
`04:08.15`	`Vanish`	`Isn't there an LUA plugin for Eclipse now?`
`04:08.15`	`Fisker-`	`What does it do?`
`04:08.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Vanish: the only thing that's up for debate is maybe community support. BBEdit is plenty fast, versitile, and being actively developed`
`04:08.51`	`grennon`	`so theres DejaVu for average joes, and BlackBook for people who want savedvars`
`04:08.59`	`grennon`	`and gui`
`04:09.00`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24887 10MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow: Don't collectgarbage() in the middle of a Works run.`
`04:09.01`	`Kemayo`	`So, GetItemCount returns the count for your entire inventory. How does one get the count for just one stack?`
`04:09.02`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: Try now.`
`04:09.05`	`*** join/#wowace Enalung_ (n=chatzill@modemcable164.145-202-24.mc.videotron.ca)`
`04:09.23`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: FreeRefills and MrPlow has code for that.`
`04:09.26`	`Vanish`	`NightHawkTheSane: Well, it's not worth debating really. It's the Mac equivlent of VIM vs EMACS... but I disagree with you on all points. ;D`
`04:09.28`	ag`_	`vhaarr: dunno, never tried gvim.`
`04:09.34`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: cream.sourceforge.net
`04:09.53`	`Thrae`	`So, what does everyone think of my idea of the "Karma" mod? It would be a "karma system", a rating system for players, with short comments. It'd be a huge pain to code, and it would need someone other then me using it.`
`04:09.57`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Vanish: arguably so. I still say you can't debate the active development part, though. Barebones has been releasing updates pretty steadily`
`04:10.09`	`break19`	`Thrae: it already exists`
`04:10.16`	`Nargiddley`	`Kemayo, 2nd return from GetContainerItemInfo(slot,bag)`
`04:10.19`	`vhaarr`	`Thrae: As long as you ship it with a default list.`
`04:10.24`	`vhaarr`	`Thrae: I want to be +1k`
`04:10.28`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`04:10.31`	`Nargiddley`	`s/slot,bag/bag,slot/`
`04:10.32`	`Thrae`	`break19: What`
`04:10.37`	`Thrae`	`break19: What's it called?`
`04:10.51`	`Vanish`	`NightHawkTheSane: Yes, but TM releases far more frequently, and more importnantly most of the bundles are community developed and hav releases 24 hours a day with bug fixes and new features.`
`04:11.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`That's really splitting hairs on "active development" though, given that the development environment and companies are probably very different :P`
`04:11.37`	`Kemayo`	`Nargiddley: Ah, but I don't know what bag or slot it's in. :D`
`04:11.47`	`Vanish`	`Thrae: I've never understodd the need for rating players in WoW. :shrug:`
`04:11.50`	`durcyn`	`Thrae: there was a mod a while ago called Karama that did exactly that`
`04:11.55`	`durcyn`	`Thrae: see also: PlayerRating`
`04:12.07`	`durcyn`	`s/Karama/Karma/g`
`04:12.16`	`break19`	`yea.. playerrating`
`04:12.24`	`break19`	`its listed in wau`
`04:12.25`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`how about you write it as a patch to one of the many existing addons like ImmersionRP :P`
`04:12.33`	`Thrae`	`Vanish: For PUGs.`
`04:13.14`	`Vanish`	`Thrae: Yeah, I get that I just don't see the need for it. ;)`
`04:13.23`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`but couldn't it be abused to hell and back, just get some guild of asshats (they exist) and just going around and 'downvoting' everybody?`
`04:13.42`	`*** join/#wowace frus- (i=frus@082-146-097-078.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be)`
`04:14.02`	ag`_	`wow vhaarr ... It's vim :D`
`04:14.10`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r24888 10kEnergy/RelNotes.txt: kEnergy: update release notes for upcoming 0.6 release.`
`04:14.11`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: yes, for win32
`04:14.29`	`PProvost`	`cream is vim wrapped in a terrible shell :)`
`04:14.43`	`PProvost`	`All of vi's lovely modality... GONE! :D`
`04:14.52`	`Thrae`	`Vanish: Well, it depends on if the rating is general or divided up...if given only 1 rating, then it should just be for their expertise in WoW. So if you see your main tank or healer with a -5, you know this group is going to be bad.`
`04:15.15`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: Press F4 to show invisible chars and see the mess in agUF ^^
`04:15.43`	`Thrae`	`Ugh, I tried Cream and quickly went back to gvim.`
`04:15.45`	`PProvost`	`"forced"???`
`04:15.48`	`PProvost`	`Me too Thrae`
`04:16.12`	`vhaarr`	`People who use vim should stop bitching about cream, it's not made for them anyway.`
`04:16.17`	`vhaarr`	`It's made for people who don't know vim.`
`04:16.21`	`Vanish`	`PProvost: Oh yeah. Only time I use ANY variant of VI it's because I'm being forced to. :D`
`04:16.23`	`PProvost`	`I know... it is fun though!!`
`04:16.50`	`PProvost`	`I hear ya Vanish. Like in the old days on a DOS machine when all you could assume was edlin. YUCK`
`04:17.01`	`vhaarr`	I'll hug vim any day, but ag`_ is not a vim user, so I'd rather recommend something he can use.
`04:17.02`	`Vanish`	`LOL! Yep`
`04:17.10`	`durcyn`	`Vanish: don't tell me you're an emacs kid.`
`04:17.17`	`PProvost`	`Crimson Editor supports lua`
`04:17.54`	`Vanish`	`durcyn: Nope. I have to be forced into that too`
`04:17.54`	`vhaarr`	`what the fuck is crimson`
`04:17.54`	`PProvost`	`Google it`
`04:17.54`	`vhaarr`	`never`
`04:17.54`	`vhaarr`	`I'm watching MI:1`
`04:17.54`	`PProvost`	`Okay... MSN then. :)`
`04:17.55`	`kergoth`	`hmm, i was gonna do something to my vim config, but now i cant recall what it was`
`04:18.00`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: back it up? :P`
`04:18.06`	ag`_	`vhaarr: I have used vim plenty`
`04:18.09`	ag`_	`but not for coding`
`04:18.12`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: oh
`04:18.12`	`PProvost`	`I've been playing with a nice exuberant tags indexer for lua. Very nice.`
`04:18.15`	`kergoth`	`every dotfile i have, including vim, is stored in a safe subversion repository :P`
`04:18.15`	ag`_	`just for editing config files on Linux`
`04:18.20`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: vim can be used for things besides coding?
`04:18.20`	`PProvost`	`Quick jump up and down a file to each function.`
`04:18.21`	`Vanish`	`durcyn: and I'm FAR from being a kid. ;)`
`04:18.24`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: :P
`04:18.33`	ag`_	`:<`
`04:18.40`	`PProvost`	`kergoth keeps his life in SVN`
`04:18.43`	`kergoth`	`PProvost, ctags already supports lua, no? taglist.vim works fine`
`04:18.44`	`kergoth`	`true that`
`04:18.58`	ag`_	`btw vhaarr F4 doesn't show me any hidden stuf`
`04:19.04`	ag`_	`that should be "stuff"`
`04:19.19`	`PProvost`	`exuberant ctags... yes kergoth`
`04:19.34`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: then my memory fails me
`04:19.39`	`PProvost`	`http://ctags.sourceforge.net/languages.html`
`04:19.44`	`kergoth`	`ctags is our friend for most languages. still wish it had more to it though`
`04:19.44`	`Vanish`	Ummm... ag`_ Grab TextPad or UltraEdit... anything that let's you see spaces and tab characters
`04:19.45`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: should be a menu item somewhere like "show hidden characters"
`04:19.53`	`vhaarr`	`Vanish: vim does that.`
`04:20.05`	`Vanish`	`vhaarr: Yeah, but he's not getting it to`
`04:20.09`	`kergoth`	`it doesnt track -calls- of functions unfortunately, so you cant generate callgraphs with it. have to use cscope or something, and those only support C`
`04:20.09`	`vhaarr`	`UltraEdit isn't even free puke`
`04:20.15`	`PProvost`	`So the complaint is line endings or tabs? :)`
`04:20.20`	`kergoth`	`if ctags tagged function call points, i'd be so happy`
`04:20.21`	`PProvost`	`Crimson is free`
`04:20.23`	`Andune`	`should AGUF be showing pet frames now, or it still a "blizzard bug"? or is it a problem w/ my setup?`
`04:20.44`	`PProvost`	`http://www.crimsoneditor.com/`
`04:20.47`	`Vanish`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:20.56`	ag`_	`vhaarr: can't find it`
`04:21.06`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: Sure you launched cream and not gvim?
`04:21.07`	`PProvost`	`If /pettest is still the option, then it is still not fixed, right?`
`04:21.09`	ag`_	`Vanish: I don't think that works atm`
`04:21.09`	`Andune`	`vanish: not a valid option`
`04:21.12`	ag`_	`vhaarr: hrm`
`04:21.21`	`Vanish`	ag`_: Oh fine. Break stuff on me, ag
`04:21.30`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: Setings -> Show/Hide invisibles, the first menu option.
`04:21.49`	`vhaarr`	`settings*`
`04:21.57`	ag`_	`vhaarr: what's the executable name for cream`
`04:22.07`	`PProvost`	`So kergoth... what are they hollering about over editors? Line endings?`
`04:22.07`	`CIA-17`	`03karlthepagan * r24889 10Grouper/ (GrouperAce.lua GrouperCore.lua):`
`04:22.07`	`CIA-17`	`Grouper:`
`04:22.07`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:22.12`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: Just rightclick the file you want to open and edit in cream.
`04:22.35`	ag`_	`vhaarr: I opted out the contextual stuff`
`04:22.43`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: then I have no idea
`04:22.48`	`KarlThePagan`	`ok... this is just FREAKIN AWESOME`
`04:22.49`	`KarlThePagan`	`http://www.stuffonmycat.com/media/2/20070112-DARTHVADER.jpg`
`04:22.56`	ag`_	`I need to do that to prevent my menu from being cluttered after 6 months of sue`
`04:22.59`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`where do we suggest things for WinAceUpdater :)`
`04:23.13`	`KarlThePagan`	`to the author`
`04:23.15`	`PProvost`	`OvrLrd-Q, fire away. :)`
`04:23.20`	`Thrae`	`OvrLrd-Q: sourceforge.net has a system`
`04:23.27`	`KarlThePagan`	`oh you mean features`
`04:23.29`	`KarlThePagan`	`heh`
`04:23.34`	`KarlThePagan`	`;)`
`04:23.35`	`PProvost`	`Best choice is on the sf.net site though. I am very forgetful.`
`04:23.45`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`well it's more of an obervation :)`
`04:23.45`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: should probably be somewhere in the start menu
`04:23.50`	`PProvost`	`But I can tell you hear if it is worth listing there. :)`
`04:24.01`	`PProvost`	`vhaarr, unless he opted out of that too`
`04:24.02`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r24890 10kEnergy/ChangeLog.txt: kEnergy: update ChangeLog for upcoming 0.6 release`
`04:24.10`	ag`_	`vhaarr: it's a file named creamrc, but it's not an executable`
`04:24.23`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth 070.6 * r24891 10kEnergy/: kEnergy: tag version 0.6.`
`04:24.25`	`PProvost`	`I think cream isn't an exe. I think it is a command line to gvim`
`04:24.26`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`when doing an Install/Update give a handy box saying you're already running one instead of throwing the exception and exiting :)`
`04:24.46`	`PProvost`	`OvrLrd-Q, probably worth listing as a bug on the sf.net site. Good catch.`
`04:24.47`	`Thrae`	`Cream is just a custom gvim environment`
`04:25.01`	`Fisker-`	`Did Blizzard put back in the 2.0.1 PlayMusic() in 2.0.4 or is it still restricted from playing http streams? :(`
`04:25.12`	`vhaarr`	`"C:\Program Files\vim\vim70\gvim.exe" "-u" "C:\Program Files\vim\vim70\cream\creamrc"`
`04:25.23`	`PProvost`	`vharr ftw!!`
`04:25.28`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`PProvost: err what's the project id?`
`04:25.39`	`PProvost`	`http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater`
`04:25.48`	`PProvost`	`Help\|About has a link`
`04:26.09`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`ah, was doing winaceupdater`
`04:26.19`	`PProvost`	`Name changed on 1.5`
`04:26.23`	`PProvost`	`SOrry 1.6`
`04:26.28`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`now lets see if I can remember my sf login`
`04:26.33`	`PProvost`	`haha`
`04:26.36`	`PProvost`	`Good luck`
`04:26.47`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24892 10Prat/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Prat: Removed all taint checking and flagging code. Pet bar workaround should still be in there as an unsavable option`
`04:27.27`	`*** join/#wowace robotusch (n=robotusc@50A2D97D.flatrate.dk)`
`04:27.27`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`Fisker-: still just local files afaik`
`04:27.40`	`Andune`	`so I don't tihnk I saw an answer to AGUF pet frames.. does anyone else have it working?`
`04:27.40`	ag`_	`sylvanaar: btw, your tablet for prat doesn't make much sense :)`
`04:27.55`	`Andune`	`I really love AGUF, but not having pet frames is getting really annoying :(`
`04:28.23`	`PProvost`	`Andune, the /aguf pettest has worked for me, but I'm still waiting inthe login queue so I don't know if it is gone`
`04:28.38`	`vhaarr`	`anyone know a tool that can beautify lua code?`
`04:28.42`	`vhaarr`	`aguf needs a run`
`04:28.44`	`pastamancer`	`emacs`
`04:28.48`	`PProvost`	`vim`
`04:28.49`	`pastamancer`	`:p`
`04:28.51`	`robotusch`	`speaking of grid, anyone know if I can configure it to use the "Group by 40" layout, but still have it sort via classes?`
`04:28.59`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: Care to do it?`
`04:29.00`	`PProvost`	`write a module?`
`04:29.06`	`PProvost`	`vhaarr not really. :)`
`04:29.10`	`pastamancer`	`robotusch: that could probably be done now with the new attributes`
`04:29.15`	`vhaarr`	`so it's not really automated, then`
`04:29.16`	`Vanish`	`vhaarr: TextMate can do it in a few seconds. ;)`
`04:29.22`	`sylvanaar`	ag`_: its development notes so we remember which modules to work on
`04:29.36`	ag`_	`ok:)`
`04:29.36`	`Nightdew_`	`anyone that can shed a bit more light on this prpfind request failed message.. and also no such revision 24892 ..?`
`04:29.38`	`Andune`	`pprovost: hmm, thx for reply, but no it's not working..`
`04:29.40`	`vhaarr`	`Vanish: I'm not on a mac`
`04:29.54`	`PProvost`	`vharr: http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=70535`
`04:29.55`	`*** join/#wowace IRCMonkey (n=chatzill@joolz69.plus.com)`
`04:30.05`	`Vanish`	`No, but I am.. and I've cleaned up ag_UF too many times to remember now`
`04:30.27`	`KarlThePagan`	`Elkano needs to test grouper r24889`
`04:30.28`	`robotusch`	`pastamancer, ok, I'll have a look at it`
`04:30.30`	`xlvii`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:30.30`	`xlvii`	`/aguf pettest or pethack don't work`
`04:30.30`	`PProvost`	`I love how Maccies can always pull TextMate out of their ass as being better than everything else... and be right!`
`04:30.36`	`PProvost`	`I need TextMate for Windows.`
`04:30.39`	`KarlThePagan`	`someone ~seen me when you see him ;)`
`04:30.42`	`xlvii`	`The latest ag_uf fixes pet bars, right?`
`04:30.44`	`KarlThePagan`	`Elkano needs to test grouper r24889`
`04:31.14`	ag`_	`no`
`04:31.17`	`Vanish`	`PProvost: It's called "e", written with the help of TM's author. Still in beta, but worth it. Uses most bundles and themes right out of the box`
`04:31.37`	`PProvost`	`Really? Got a link?`
`04:31.41`	`Vanish`	`Sec`
`04:31.48`	ag`_	`"/aguf pettest" was broken when the fubar plugin was included yesterday`
`04:31.49`	`PProvost`	`I'm pretty sure searching for "e" wont work well`
`04:32.02`	`Vanish`	`http://e-texteditor.com/`
`04:32.17`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24893 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Disable the 'updated modules' feature, it wasnt part of that commit`
`04:33.15`	`robotusch`	`only 5.400.000.000 hits for a google search on "e"`
`04:33.20`	`Fisker-`	`oh`
`04:33.23`	`Fisker-`	`got 2.0.4 there :O`
`04:33.24`	`*** part/#wowace kenlyric\|home (n=Jason@adsl-75-51-224-246.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net)`
`04:33.43`	`robotusch`	`correction, 5.540.000.000 for "e", 5.400.000.000 for e`
`04:33.47`	`Fisker-`	`pretty weird they applied it without server shutdown`
`04:33.49`	`robotusch`	`old news Fusker`
`04:34.02`	`robotusch`	`just a fix of the far sight feature :(`
`04:34.14`	`Fisker-`	`WHAT?!`
`04:34.18`	`Fisker-`	`then i should never have patched!`
`04:34.21`	`sylvanaar`	`how does /aguf pettest work?`
`04:34.29`	`PProvost`	`vhaarr, did you check that HW2_PrettyPrinter link I gave? Looks interesting, but I don't know if it thinks pretty is what you think is pretty.`
`04:34.29`	ag`_	`it doesn't atm`
`04:34.38`	`Fisker-`	`damnit blizzard`
`04:34.39`	`Fisker-`	`i hate it`
`04:34.40`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: I tried it, it sucks donkey balls.`
`04:34.44`	`Fisker-`	`why not just default to load out of date`
`04:34.51`	`Fisker-`	`now i have to set half my stuff up again`
`04:35.00`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: It broke 3 lua files syntaxwise.`
`04:35.14`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: And has no options for what to do with {}, it does not remove space/tabs at the end of lines.`
`04:35.16`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: etc`
`04:35.21`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: Basically, I've never seen anything worse.`
`04:35.29`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: but thanks`
`04:35.37`	`robotusch`	`?`
`04:35.43`	`robotusch`	`I didn't have to fix anything, Fisker`
`04:35.47`	`sylvanaar`	`lol`
`04:35.51`	`PProvost`	`Wasn't sure. Wasn't as fast as you... :)`
`04:36.03`	`Fisker-`	`Seems to work fine grennon`
`04:36.09`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: Seriously, how can someone make a prettyprinter that breaks the code?`
`04:36.13`	`Fisker-`	`But you can add blank people to the list :P`
`04:36.13`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: That's just fucking retarded.`
`04:36.28`	`Andune`	`any idea why AGUF claims pets not working is a blizz bug when it seems to work fine w/ other unit frames (such as x-perl)? Or is it just a known AGUF bug now?`
`04:36.33`	`Vanish`	`vhaarr: Tell us how you REALLY feel abou it!`
`04:36.40`	`sylvanaar`	`vhaarr: there are plenty of them for C`
`04:36.50`	`sylvanaar`	`well, they are reformatters`
`04:36.50`	`Neebler`	`I propose "ag_UF2: the rewrite!" dun dun dunnnn`
`04:36.52`	`vhaarr`	`sylvanaar: heh, well C is a bit more advanced, you know.`
`04:37.21`	`PProvost`	`I think it was amde for Lua 4`
`04:37.53`	`vhaarr`	`that would explain it`
`04:38.08`	`RUBiK`	`anyone here use squeenix?`
`04:38.09`	`PProvost`	`I guess I'm wondering why this matters so much.`
`04:38.15`	`PProvost`	`RUBiK, yes. Lots. :)`
`04:38.18`	`Andune`	`RUBiK: yep`
`04:38.26`	`RUBiK`	`i can't for the life of me move icons anywhere out of the SW corner`
`04:38.34`	`RUBiK`	`mouse range is not enough somehow.. very strange..`
`04:38.39`	`sylvanaar`	`honestly, the only good way to make a beautifier is to work with the parse trees`
`04:38.41`	`PProvost`	`Odd.`
`04:38.46`	`PProvost`	`Of source sylvanaar`
`04:38.51`	`PProvost`	`s/source/course/`
`04:38.56`	`Fisker-`	`and vhaarr your fix worked :P`
`04:39.01`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: ah, excellent`
`04:39.03`	`Andune`	`RUBiK: drag the map frame away and move it the icons, then move it back?`
`04:39.09`	`RUBiK`	`trying..`
`04:39.11`	`Fisker-`	`but perhaps, if possible, don't do GC if there's nothing to do?`
`04:39.27`	`RUBiK`	`oh wow.. genius`
`04:39.47`	`PProvost`	`500 person login queues suck`
`04:39.53`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: nah, can't be arsed`
`04:39.59`	`sylvanaar`	`ms has that code dom stuff for everything but C++ which pisses me off`
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`04:40.05`	`RUBiK`	`ok, so if squeenix minimap is in upper right corner, you can't move icons around it unless you move the minimap to center of screen first`
`04:40.08`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`04:40.16`	`PProvost`	`sylvanaar, ever seen a C++ parser? :)`
`04:40.48`	`Andune`	`lol well I grepped the source of AGUF for the pettest thing. looks like the menus get overwritten somehow (someone suggested the FuBAR plugin?)`
`04:41.05`	`Andune`	`but the source pointed me to aUF:PetHack(), which run with /script seems to do the trick.`
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`04:41.19`	`sylvanaar`	`PProvost: yep`
`04:42.00`	`Antiar1`	`Ugh.`
`04:42.11`	`Antiar1`	`About 15 horde camping the Alliance entrance to AV.`
`04:42.38`	`Andune`	`tho it actually gives me two party pets frames :(`
`04:42.40`	`ckknight`	`hey all, back`
`04:42.56`	`PProvost`	`Antiar1, alliance entrance?`
`04:43.05`	`Andune`	`sigh it just looks pretty busted in general. :( I don't suppose there's some hidden feature in grid to turn on pets as monitored objects?`
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`04:44.22`	`Antiar1`	`Yeah/`
`04:44.38`	`Antiar1`	`And since you can't use the recall trinket unless you're outside...`
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`04:46.41`	`xlvii`	`does anyone if SeriousBuffTimers works with 2.0.4?`
`04:47.32`	`PProvost`	`Antiar1, ghost run to your next GY`
`04:47.33`	`sylvanaar`	`what ever came of that guy who was saying that Prat was eating up memory:`
`04:47.50`	`Fisker-`	`grennon you there? :P`
`04:49.32`	`grennon`	`Fisker-: yo`
`04:50.13`	`Fisker-`	`The contacts thingy works fine`
`04:50.20`	`Fisker-`	`Although you can add blank people to it`
`04:50.28`	`grennon`	`oops`
`04:52.24`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24894 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Christmas is over, pal.`
`04:52.41`	`ilifin`	`haha wtf @ that`
`04:52.43`	`Fisker-`	`:P?`
`04:53.02`	`ilifin`	`nice commit I guess`
`04:53.29`	`ilifin`	`depends what you want in the package`
`04:53.40`	`ilifin`	`plus there's various mods with the same functionality etc`
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`04:56.11`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r24895 10Postal/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Postal: -Cannot add Blank Contacts in BlackBook, Added Localalization to Rake`
`05:00.58`	ag`_	`http://www.venganza.org/piratesarecool4.jpg`
`05:01.58`	`Fisker-`	`yarr?`
`05:02.47`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24896 10SpellBinder/SpellBinder.lua: SpellBinder: Fixed for 2.0.3. Overwrite the old bindings since SetBinding*() doesn't seem to do it properly anymore.`
`05:04.40`	`Vanish`	`\|Kev\|: Icons have been emailed`
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`05:05.46`	`PProvostAFK`	`Kaelten... weird hooking error in OneBank?`
`05:06.08`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24897 10ag_UnitFrames/ (15 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Trim trailing spaces and convert leading spaces to tabs.`
`05:06.42`	`Fisker-`	`ouch`
`05:06.48`	`robotusch`	`:o`
`05:06.50`	`Fisker-`	`you can't check if the transporter fails anymore`
`05:08.19`	`ilifin`	`is Postal in a working state atm?`
`05:09.52`	`Fisker-`	`yup`
`05:10.05`	`Fisker-`	`Not just working, also awesome :P`
`05:10.07`	`Vanish`	`Kemayo: Yup. It was locked`
`05:10.25`	`ilifin`	`so it's a good replacement for GMail which I miss dearly?`
`05:10.25`	`Fisker-`	`what was locked?`
`05:10.31`	`ilifin`	`bulkmail really isn't doing it for me`
`05:10.35`	`Vanish`	`My Quest Tracker`
`05:10.36`	`kebinusan`	`ilifin: postal`
`05:10.38`	`Goeb`	`item checks gone broke in ora2?`
`05:10.41`	`Fisker-`	`Well it's different now`
`05:10.47`	`durcyn`	`postal is gmail plus plus plus plus`
`05:10.47`	`Fisker-`	`but i like the different better`
`05:10.54`	`ilifin`	`good, that's neat`
`05:10.56`	`ilifin`	`I'll go check it`
`05:11.25`	`Fisker-`	`oh and grennon`
`05:11.33`	`ilifin`	`well Fisker-, gmail had a nostalgic feeling`
`05:11.45`	`Fisker-`	`after i sending 2 emails i got "Collected 60 Copper"`
`05:11.48`	`ilifin`	`looked like the good old ctmail mod back when ace didn't even exist`
`05:12.20`	`Fisker-`	`Well "massmail" is gone`
`05:12.26`	`kebinusan`	`no its not`
`05:12.29`	`Fisker-`	`You can still massmail but it's not done through the ct_mailmod frame`
`05:12.33`	`Fisker-`	`kebinusan i know`
`05:12.38`	`Fisker-`	`i meant the frame itself`
`05:12.41`	`kebinusan`	`oh`
`05:12.41`	`Fisker-`	`from ct_mod`
`05:12.42`	`kebinusan`	`yeah`
`05:12.46`	`kebinusan`	`alt+click is better`
`05:12.49`	`Fisker-`	`agreed`
`05:12.54`	`ilifin`	`alt-click is good`
`05:13.04`	`ilifin`	`but does it break if I have AltClickToAdd?`
`05:13.17`	`Fisker-`	`i don't know, but you could check it :P`
`05:13.20`	`ilifin`	`AltClickToAddItem*`
`05:13.31`	`ilifin`	`k, there was problems with that + bulkmail you see`
`05:13.48`	`Vanish`	`I have GOT to fix TinyTipFu...`
`05:14.25`	`vhaarr`	`What's wrong with it?`
`05:14.28`	`vhaarr`	`It's my mod, you know!!1`
`05:14.54`	`Vanish`	`It doesn't remember it's place on the minimap`
`05:14.56`	`vhaarr`	`Vanish: Just that it doesn't save its position?`
`05:15.02`	`vhaarr`	`As I said, it needs AceDB.`
`05:15.06`	`Vanish`	`vhaarr: yeah`
`05:15.09`	`vhaarr`	`And obviously an actual DB.`
`05:15.26`	`Vanish`	`Freaking annoying is what it is. ;)`
`05:15.58`	`vhaarr`	`Vanish: You have to add 11 bytes to the Lua file and one line of text to the toc file, and you're done.`
`05:16.18`	`vhaarr`	`hrm no`
`05:16.27`	`vhaarr`	`11 bytes + 1 one line to the lua`
`05:16.33`	`Vanish`	`Hmm.. someone who can commit to the SVN should do that so everyone benefits... ;D OK, ok. I'll see if I can work it out`
`05:16.48`	`vhaarr`	`I'm not fixing it, you'll have to learn something.`
`05:16.50`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
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`05:17.52`	vid`	`any mod around to put minimap icons onto fubar?`
`05:18.03`	vid`	`for non ace'd mods with no fubar module`
`05:18.23`	`Vanish`	`vhaarr: Is that under FuBarPlugin API?`
`05:18.23`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24898 10Prat/modules/ChatButtons.lua: Prat: Remove 1 extra table creation for visible chat frames' OnUpdate calls.`
`05:18.26`	ag`_	`bedtime`
`05:18.29`	`vhaarr`	`Vanish: no`
`05:18.31`	`vhaarr`	`nn ag`
`05:18.35`	ag`_	`nn`
`05:18.38`	vid`	`bedtime sounds like a good mod`
`05:18.39`	`Vanish`	`nn ag`
`05:18.41`	vid`	`:P`
`05:19.12`	`Vanish`	`vhaarr: so AceDB then?`
`05:19.24`	`vhaarr`	`Vanish: I don't think it's documented anywhere.`
`05:19.52`	`Vanish`	`Oh nice... makes learning so much easier...`
`05:19.57`	`CIA-17`	`03arkayenro 07v1.30 beta 2007-01-13-15-30 * r24899 10ArkInventory/ (15 files in 2 dirs):`
`05:19.57`	`CIA-17`	`ArkInventory:`
`05:19.57`	`CIA-17`	`- v1.30 beta 2007-01-13-15-30`
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`05:21.06`	`Kemayo`	`I really wish arkayenro had a better SVN style.`
`05:21.12`	`sylvanaar`	`Vanish: lose the can you qq somewhere else`
`05:21.23`	`JJC`	`hi, using Prat - is the text (/g /o ect ect ) saved at all, stored on C drive?`
`05:21.39`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`arg god damnit, so want to play :(`
`05:21.44`	`sylvanaar`	`s/lose the can/would/`
`05:22.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Kemayo: you mean actually putting what he changed in the commit messages? that would be nice. :P`
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`05:22.48`	`sylvanaar`	`JJC: chatlogging is a blizzard function`
`05:22.54`	`Kemayo`	`Oh, it's worse than that. He adds a new branch for every version he commits like that.`
`05:22.54`	`sylvanaar`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:22.55`	`Antiar1`	`Just use /chatlog`
`05:23.08`	`Kemayo`	`Sorry, I meant tag. He commits them directly to tags.`
`05:23.26`	`sylvanaar`	`JJC: there is a Chatlog module in prat that will do it for you`
`05:23.41`	`sylvanaar`	`you can choose`
`05:23.58`	`Fisker-`	`Yeah Kemayo he does all his work outside SVN then uploads it`
`05:23.59`	`JJC`	`ok thx, can you point to where it may be saved to, c/progfiles/wow.....`
`05:24.00`	`Fisker-`	`Pretty silly imo`
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`05:24.48`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r24900 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Add "abandon" and "close" items to quest detail panel.`
`05:24.49`	`Vanish`	`sylvanaar: ??`
`05:25.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`o_0 a new branch for every commit?`
`05:25.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`isn't that kind of.. uh.. redundant?`
`05:25.58`	`Kemayo`	`NightHawkTheSane: You'll see what I mean here: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/ArkInventory/`
`05:26.19`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Hello, I am trying to download the Ace SVN, I got this error: http://ace.pastey.net/4981; can anyone tell me what this means?`
`05:26.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ugh. okay, that is rather redundant`
`05:26.38`	`sylvanaar`	`JJC: <wowdir>\logs`
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`05:27.38`	`Vanish`	`sylvanaar: I don't know what your statement means`
`05:27.57`	`JJC`	`thx for your help, now I can sleep :)`
`05:28.12`	`sylvanaar`	`Vanish: it means please stop complaining`
`05:28.53`	`Vanish`	`sylvanaar: Ahhh. LOL! I'm not really complaining. I'm giving vhaarr a hard time. ;D`
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`05:29.11`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`Kemayo: well that's how you should be doing updates. You should have a local checkout and then a branch when working on adding features`
`05:29.49`	`vhaarr`	`Vanish: The problem is that I don't care :)`
`05:29.58`	`Vanish`	`vhaarr: I know. :D`
`05:30.56`	`Vanish`	`I'm trying to find code in another addon to wrap my head around`
`05:32.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`OvrLrd-Q: honestly, with the way the svn is set up, minor incremental commits to trunk are probably the best. There's really no huge reason to branch for every minor update.`
`05:32.28`	`grennon`	`seen Neriak`
`05:32.35`	`grennon`	`doh`
`05:32.57`	`sylvanaar`	`you can do em however you like`
`05:33.05`	`Kemayo`	`OvrLrd-Q: Actually, I checked, and my old complaint of him checking things directly into tags hasn't happened in ages. I still quibble with his commit messages, though.`
`05:33.29`	`sylvanaar`	`but dont modify tags yeah`
`05:34.12`	`Klazar`	`anyidea whats cuasing my sking to start flickering , never quite no what triggers it but it started after the 2.0.3 patch`
`05:34.37`	`Klazar`	`errr s/skiing/screen/`
`05:34.47`	`Klazar`	`*hix`
`05:34.53`	`Klazar`	`*hic`
`05:35.18`	`nymbia`	`Nargiddley: /suggest letting the itemid entry field accept dragged in links ;)`
`05:36.06`	`sylvanaar`	`nymbia: did you ever get a chance to do the EU part of the server type code`
`05:36.16`	`art3mis`	`wierd`
`05:36.30`	`art3mis`	`appearantly my ufriends fubar pluging doesnt have a mouseover anymore`
`05:36.32`	`nymbia`	`sylvanaar: nope, been slacking. i'll get to it, i swears! :D`
`05:37.01`	`art3mis`	`good morning my wonderful addon creators`
`05:37.13`	`sylvanaar`	`no worries, i just got a bug report so just wanted t know if i should disable it for eu or not`
`05:37.18`	`grennon`	`good morning slick`
`05:38.34`	`art3mis`	`hey i have a question`
`05:39.04`	`art3mis`	`how cpu intesive would it be to make an addon to fuquest for example to add q quest dbase into the the addon?`
`05:39.27`	`art3mis`	`so that you can look up quests for the area and itll tell you the cached text of the quest and where to find the things?`
`05:39.32`	`Kemayo`	`It's not a cpu question, it's a memory question. There's a lot of quests.`
`05:39.39`	`art3mis`	`instead of having to alt=tab out to check`
`05:39.49`	`art3mis`	`could it parse them under the scene?`
`05:39.57`	`art3mis`	`or possible just only search for certain zones?`
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`05:40.19`	`art3mis`	`instead of having them all loaded all the time just do a "grep" or sql type call?`
`05:41.00`	`art3mis`	`might be a handy addon for tbc`
`05:41.07`	`art3mis`	`to save all the pointless questions`
`05:41.15`	`Kemayo`	`There's no way to have them loaded only part of the time, is the problem.`
`05:41.21`	`Andune`	`so I have to assume AGUF pet frames being broken drives away more people than just myself. What unitFrames is everyone else using?`
`05:41.28`	`art3mis`	`aguf`
`05:41.31`	`art3mis`	`pets suck`
`05:41.34`	`art3mis`	`;)`
`05:41.36`	`Kemayo`	`You either have them in memory or you don't have them at all.`
`05:41.45`	`art3mis`	`oh`
`05:41.53`	`art3mis`	`you cant make calls outside?`
`05:41.53`	`Andune`	`art3mis: yeah. there are (sad) times in 5-mans when healing a pet is important.`
`05:42.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`before 2.0.3 no unitframes had pet frames afaik`
`05:42.15`	`Andune`	`art3mis: using focus frame is a gimp way to get around it, but it falls over when you get more than 1 ;)`
`05:42.15`	`art3mis`	`hehe we tanked rhuul in shadowmoon with a vulture ;P`
`05:42.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`they didnt work in the securetempletes`
`05:42.28`	`Kemayo`	`Nope. Programs outside of the game can edit files, but you'd have to restart the game to see the changes.`
`05:42.33`	`Andune`	`strange, I couldda swore they worked in X-perl. maybe not.`
`05:42.36`	`art3mis`	`oh thats shitty`
`05:43.02`	`art3mis`	`how do those streaming music addons work then?`
`05:43.07`	`Andune`	`this 'd all be solved if Grid would just add pets as one of the classes :P`
`05:43.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`they might have showed up but they werent secureframes`
`05:43.13`	`Kemayo`	`Well, as of this patch, they don't. :D`
`05:43.17`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`05:43.19`	`art3mis`	`damn`
`05:43.35`	`Kemayo`	`They used to exploit that PlayMusic would accept a URL as well as a local file path.`
`05:44.08`	`art3mis`	`too bad`
`05:44.14`	`art3mis`	`that would have been a handy program`
`05:44.24`	`art3mis`	`a guess carts dbase will have to do ;P`
`05:44.31`	`art3mis`	`and memory`
`05:44.32`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`05:45.14`	`Kemayo`	`You could still just load everything into memory, of course. But it would take up a crapload of space. Plus you'd have to work out how to tell quests apart, given that some quests have the same name, and Blizzard doesn't reveal an absolute identifier for them.`
`05:45.56`	`art3mis`	`questgiver as tag?`
`05:46.04`	`kebinusan`	`how is playmusic accepting a url an exploit`
`05:46.12`	`Antiar1`	`It's not an exploit`
`05:46.14`	`art3mis`	`thats still a buttload of mem though`
`05:46.15`	`Antiar1`	`But they exploited that fact.`
`05:46.19`	`Antiar1`	`Two meanings of the word ;)`
`05:46.36`	`Kemayo`	`kebinusan: What Antiar1 said.`
`05:46.37`	`kebinusan`	`came in late just skimmed what was said`
`05:47.24`	`Kemayo`	`You can't use the questgiver as a tag for it. (My pet example of this is the Nesingway expedition, in which you get sent on a whole series of quests from the same people with the same names.)`
`05:48.03`	`Kemayo`	`You could probably work something out with a hash from the name+level, maybe with the leaderboard titles mixed in.`
`05:48.04`	`pastamancer`	`Andune: grid would need a major overhaul to support pets`
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`05:53.32`	`Andune`	`pastamancer: sigh, a shame to hear that. Grid is wonderful, if it supported pets I'd be a happy man :)`
`05:54.39`	`pastamancer`	`Andune: more people want new features than they want pet support`
`05:57.24`	`Andune`	`pastamancer: fair enough. I'm happy to have grid at all, I'd go nuts without it :)`
`05:58.12`	`pastamancer`	`I haven't even had time to work on the documentation like I had planned`
`05:58.32`	`Andune`	`pastamancer: it sounds like other people are casting votes for other features.. consider mine cast in favor of pet support. If I'm the only one, then I guess I'll be waiting a while.. ;) I'm ok with that :)`
`05:58.43`	`pastamancer`	`I'm working on a better /files right now`
`06:00.25`	`Andune`	`out of curiosity, why is it so hard to do? did blizz make it difficult with secureframes somehow, or has handling pet frames always been a pain?`
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`06:04.52`	`durcyn`	`Andune: they "forgot" to put in secure headers for pets`
`06:07.47`	`Andune`	`durcyn: lol. how thoughtful :)`
`06:07.57`	`KarlThePagan`	`pastamancer, I second the notion of Grid + pets <3`
`06:09.10`	`pastamancer`	`KarlThePagan: next on the list is improving the indicators HealthBar -> HealthBar + HealthBarColor, CenterText -> text + color`
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`06:09.44`	`pastamancer`	`I'll need to actually get around to writing Roster-2.2 and improve the pet support`
`06:10.32`	`Codayus`	`So.`
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`06:10.42`	`Codayus`	`Out guild just 1-shotted Nef...on our FIRST try. Ever.`
`06:10.43`	`Codayus`	`oO`
`06:10.47`	`Codayus`	`That's weird.`
`06:11.42`	`Thorgard`	`Hmmm.. does it even matter which leatherworking specialization you pick now?`
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`06:12.55`	`Tekkub`	`I don't think there's many specialization recs in TBC`
`06:13.05`	`Tekkub`	`only BS AFAIK`
`06:13.40`	`sl8r88`	`bc stuff will have spec reqs for leatherworking`
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`06:15.01`	`Vanish`	`Thorgard: Nope. YOu can unlearn and the current 3 no longer exist. ny LW can do all three former specs. There will e new specs, IIRC`
`06:15.27`	`Vanish`	`Bah! Keyboard is sticking. 2 new specs`
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`06:17.16`	`Andune`	`sigh, that's the 3rd AB tonight I've joined where horde win 10 seconds after I join. You'd think blizz could do some quick math and stop plugging players into AB's that are steamrolled and almost over. :(`
`06:17.44`	`robotusch`	`pft, it's a free mark more or less`
`06:18.05`	`Andune`	`I didn't wait 12 minutes for a free mark, I wanted to play! ;)`
`06:18.10`	`grennon`	`you get a medal and your back in Q`
`06:18.16`	`grennon`	`u r teh winnaer!`
`06:18.16`	`robotusch`	`it's much worse to join an ab & then end up losing 2000-1700 or something`
`06:18.20`	`Andune`	`Maybe they should have an "I'm just farming free marks" checkbox.`
`06:18.44`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`dont feel bad Andune, with the AV remote flag cap, somebody startting capping stormpike before the round even started.`
`06:18.45`	`vhaarr`	`ooooh, 12 min, your life is ruined.`
`06:18.56`	`vhaarr`	`remember how it was before battlegroups?`
`06:19.14`	`snurre-`	`OvrLrd-Q: how? o.O`
`06:19.16`	`SprCdrOfEverythi`	`Actually I preferred it before XBGs`
`06:19.22`	`SprCdrOfEverythi`	`I play on BB, and we were quite balanced.`
`06:19.23`	`Andune`	`vhaarr: wow, always so extreme? of course my life isn't ruined. I'm complaining that it's a retarded waste, and I wish they'd fix it.`
`06:19.37`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`snurre-: dunno, some bug in AV, horde can cap flags from like 40+ yards away`
`06:19.37`	`grennon`	`i loved waiting 1.5 hours for a match and having it be pug vs premade before the battlegroups`
`06:19.51`	`snurre-`	`OvrLrd-Q: I fail to see how that can be horde-only`
`06:20.08`	`vhaarr`	`Andune: I just remember like grennon, having to wait 1-3 hours for a game.`
`06:20.09`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`shrug if it does affect both factions seems horde is the only side that's figured it out`
`06:20.48`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`somebody posted in wow forums with pictures on where you have to stand, but blizz deleted it quickly`
`06:21.00`	`robotusch`	`I thought it was just a bug with Shammys & far sight`
`06:21.12`	`snurre-`	`then hunters can do it too`
`06:21.15`	`Vanish`	`Any Horde`
`06:27.05`	`CIA-17`	`03fatherjim * r24901 10loudmouth/ (TODO.txt changelog.txt loudmouth.lua loudmouth.xml):`
`06:27.05`	`CIA-17`	`loudmouth:`
`06:27.05`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed a bug with the saved variables not saving a 'disabled' function correctly.`
`06:27.05`	`CIA-17`	`- Experimenting with dynamically generated UI versus so much XML.`
`06:29.35`	`Velkyn`	`Can someone tell me how to setup Bartender3, so that I can hit the "1" key to fire off the #1 hotkey on bar#1, all the way across.. like default has?`
`06:30.50`	vid`	`yea`
`06:30.53`	vid`	`edit your keybindings`
`06:31.01`	`*** join/#wowace Batos (n=Batos@193.69.144.170)`
`06:31.09`	vid`	`theres a bartender 3 section under keybindings in the setup menu`
`06:31.15`	`Velkyn`	`vid: Via the default key bindings interface?`
`06:31.18`	vid`	`yep`
`06:31.25`	`Velkyn`	`vid: Ah, muchos gracias`
`06:31.27`	vid`	`np`
`06:31.34`	vid`	`i was having trouble finding it like 3 days ago too hehe`
`06:31.36`	`Velkyn`	`vid: Looked everywhere... except default.`
`06:31.39`	vid`	`cause it used to be part of BT3`
`06:31.41`	vid`	`same with me`
`06:31.42`	vid`	`hehe`
`06:31.51`	`Velkyn`	`I really like it`
`06:31.59`	`Velkyn`	`I was using TRinity, and Trinity is pretty..`
`06:32.07`	vid`	`i havent tried trinity`
`06:32.12`	vid`	`i heard its complicated to setup tho`
`06:32.13`	`Velkyn`	`Its also got more mem leaks and errors... then... Vanguard Beta 5`
`06:32.17`	vid`	`:\`
`06:32.23`	`Velkyn`	`Oh Trinity has become really nice setup wise`
`06:32.25`	`Thorgard`	`My server's dying!`
`06:32.27`	`Velkyn`	`The GUI is sexy`
`06:32.28`	vid`	`lol vanguard. i gave up on it after about 3 levels`
`06:32.28`	`*** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)`
`06:32.31`	vid`	`couldnt get into it`
`06:32.42`	vid`	`oh well bedtime, gotta get up in 5 hours for work sigh`
`06:32.48`	`Velkyn`	`Man, I was getting TRASH performance in Vanguard and the graphics werent worth it`
`06:32.51`	vid`	`was hoping i'd get a day off this weekend but i got appt's sat AND sun`
`06:33.06`	`Velkyn`	`You could call in... tell them your too drunk to drive to work?`
`06:33.09`	vid`	`so now im on like day 13`
`06:33.12`	vid`	`with no day off`
`06:33.15`	`*** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)`
`06:33.21`	vid`	`heh i wish`
`06:33.26`	vid`	`kinda hard when you run your own company`
`06:33.28`	vid`	`:P`
`06:33.35`	`Velkyn`	`Man I remember my days waiting tables... would make like 20+ day runs without a day off.`
`06:33.44`	vid`	`yea well`
`06:33.49`	vid`	`i need my personal time to do my own shit`
`06:33.50`	vid`	`so id ont go nuts`
`06:33.52`	`Velkyn`	`Well if your your own boss there are never days off.`
`06:33.54`	vid`	`but the prob is that cuts on my sleep time`
`06:34.02`	`Velkyn`	`I hear that.`
`06:34.08`	vid`	`so now i sleep 4 hours a night`
`06:34.14`	vid`	`and its rough after not getting to take a day off`
`06:34.17`	`vhaarr`	`... "sleep"?`
`06:34.20`	vid`	`yea right?`
`06:34.38`	vid`	`i need to start doing coke or something to keep me awake all day`
`06:34.39`	vid`	`lol`
`06:34.44`	vid`	`i quit smoking to`
`06:34.47`	vid`	`like a month ago`
`06:34.50`	vid`	`thats been killing me`
`06:34.52`	`Bakkoda`	`new years resolution?`
`06:34.52`	`Velkyn`	`omg..`
`06:34.55`	vid`	`im getting fatter by the day`
`06:34.56`	`Velkyn`	`shivers`
`06:34.58`	vid`	`since i quit`
`06:35.05`	vid`	`nah`
`06:35.07`	vid`	`i got sick`
`06:35.12`	vid`	`just kinda stopped`
`06:35.13`	`Velkyn`	`Yeah you need to do something to get your metabolism rolling`
`06:35.15`	vid`	`and didnt start`
`06:35.20`	vid`	`again*`
`06:35.28`	vid`	`yea like the gymn`
`06:35.36`	`Velkyn`	`I know this sounds stupid, but are you eating within like 30mins of getting up?`
`06:35.38`	vid`	`but there we go with free time again :P`
`06:35.41`	vid`	`no`
`06:35.45`	`Bakkoda`	`i havent touched a smoke in almsot 6 months... its killin me`
`06:35.46`	vid`	`i eat like 6 hours after i wake up`
`06:35.47`	`Velkyn`	`Even if you just eay a yogart or something it helps a ton`
`06:35.51`	vid`	`yea Bakkoda`
`06:35.53`	`Velkyn`	`Try eatting something small when you get up`
`06:35.54`	vid`	`it never goes away`
`06:35.59`	vid`	`i quit for like a year when i graduated college`
`06:36.07`	vid`	`and it didnt last :\`
`06:36.13`	`Velkyn`	`Basically your body doesnt start your metabolism up after sleeping until you eat.`
`06:36.15`	vid`	`so we'll see if it does this time`
`06:36.21`	`Bakkoda`	`well i stopped smokin @ home because we had a kid`
`06:36.30`	vid`	`ah thats good`
`06:36.38`	`Bakkoda`	`figured why nto just stop in general`
`06:36.44`	vid`	`yea`
`06:36.45`	vid`	`its hard`
`06:36.50`	vid`	`i love to smoke`
`06:36.51`	vid`	`thats the prob`
`06:36.53`	vid`	`:P`
`06:36.58`	vid`	`i dont want to quit`
`06:37.04`	`jag111`	`anyone know the script command to open a whisper to a player?`
`06:37.05`	vid`	`its hard when you dont want to quit :P`
`06:37.09`	`jag111`	`like i send the function the player name as a strong and it opens up the whisper box for me to type to them?`
`06:37.27`	vid`	`my mouth waters just thinking about having one mmm`
`06:37.28`	vid`	`lol`
`06:37.35`	vid`	`like homer simpsons and donuts`
`06:37.37`	vid`	`simpson*`
`06:37.41`	`Bakkoda`	`i still occasionally smoke pot but only on the rare occasion i have a wife/kid free weekend and no work`
`06:37.49`	vid`	`yea thats what i need`
`06:37.51`	`Bakkoda`	`which is like... once a year?`
`06:37.54`	vid`	`lol`
`06:38.08`	vid`	`i might goto amsterdam actually in march :P`
`06:38.13`	`Bakkoda`	`lucky`
`06:38.19`	vid`	`my sister is doing study abroad in florence`
`06:38.31`	`Bakkoda`	`i just got bck from italy with the wife`
`06:38.34`	vid`	`so i might go visit her when shes on spring break and meet up with her in amsterdam`
`06:38.35`	`*** join/#wowace steev64 (n=steev@gentoo/developer/steev)`
`06:38.44`	`robotusch`	`woot`
`06:38.44`	`Bakkoda`	`first time goin back since i was 14`
`06:38.47`	vid`	`yea how was it?`
`06:38.48`	`robotusch`	`"Our regularly scheduled maintenance downtime will not be occurring for the week."`
`06:38.51`	vid`	`ive never been out of the us`
`06:38.52`	vid`	`:P`
`06:38.54`	`Bakkoda`	`never been to amsterdam... i wanna go tho. send pics`
`06:38.56`	vid`	`except canada`
`06:38.58`	vid`	`doesnt count tho`
`06:39.02`	vid`	`canada is like an extension of the us`
`06:39.05`	vid`	`:P`
`06:39.14`	`Bakkoda`	`well i went to italy to play soccer @ 14 but you get bussed around and eat prepared food and stuff`
`06:39.15`	`robotusch`	`only ever been to NY in the US, but there's so many places I'd like to visit :/`
`06:39.34`	vid`	`ah its okay`
`06:39.42`	vid`	`theres a few interesting places`
`06:39.48`	vid`	`im not a big fan of NY honestly`
`06:39.50`	`Bakkoda`	`where in NY did you go?`
`06:39.55`	vid`	`my sister goes to college in ny`
`06:40.04`	`robotusch`	`it was with my dad & sister, so we went to all the tourist places`
`06:40.05`	`Bakkoda`	`i live in NY :(`
`06:40.11`	vid`	`she goes to nyu`
`06:40.18`	vid`	`i went to RIT in update ny`
`06:40.23`	`Bakkoda`	`:O`
`06:40.23`	vid`	`upstate*`
`06:40.25`	`Bakkoda`	`what year?`
`06:40.27`	vid`	`was too fuckin cold`
`06:40.28`	`Bakkoda`	`i went to RIT`
`06:40.28`	`robotusch`	`2002`
`06:40.31`	vid`	`lol`
`06:40.34`	vid`	`i graduated in 04`
`06:40.37`	`Bakkoda`	`graduated 2001`
`06:40.39`	`Bakkoda`	`haha`
`06:40.40`	vid`	`ah`
`06:40.47`	`Bakkoda`	`did you pledge?`
`06:40.52`	vid`	`i remember walking that goddamn quarter mile`
`06:40.55`	vid`	`in like 2 feet of snow`
`06:40.56`	vid`	`freshman year`
`06:40.57`	vid`	`god`
`06:40.59`	`Bakkoda`	`windy as hell`
`06:41.03`	vid`	`no`
`06:41.08`	`Bakkoda`	`it was either eat at greasys`
`06:41.09`	vid`	`no frats :P`
`06:41.15`	`Bakkoda`	`or walk to crossroads`
`06:41.22`	vid`	`was too busy playing UO freshmen year`
`06:41.22`	vid`	`lol`
`06:41.28`	`Bakkoda`	`nice`
`06:41.30`	`Bakkoda`	`i was in Sol`
`06:41.33`	`Bakkoda`	`floor 8`
`06:41.36`	`Bakkoda`	`freshman year`
`06:41.42`	vid`	`i dont even remember where i was`
`06:41.45`	vid`	`damn`
`06:41.53`	`Bakkoda`	`i got a video for you`
`06:41.56`	vid`	`i was in UC after freshman year tho`
`06:41.57`	`Bakkoda`	`s in S lot`
`06:42.00`	`Bakkoda`	`matress sledding`
`06:42.14`	`Bakkoda`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_T6pn6OUjU`
`06:42.30`	`Bakkoda`	`brings back the memories`
`06:42.36`	vid`	`lol`
`06:42.40`	vid`	`i kno`
`06:42.40`	`*** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)`
`06:42.43`	vid`	`i miss college`
`06:42.45`	vid`	`work fucking blows`
`06:42.56`	vid`	`miss having 0 responsibility`
`06:43.02`	`Bakkoda`	`meh I had a severe love hate relationship with RIT`
`06:43.09`	vid`	`yep`
`06:43.11`	vid`	`i was upset`
`06:43.19`	vid`	`the year i left was when all the hot girls started showing up :P`
`06:43.22`	`Bakkoda`	`my senior yer they switched from C to java`
`06:43.25`	vid`	`the ratio was getting real good`
`06:43.25`	`Bakkoda`	`aye`
`06:43.32`	`Bakkoda`	`i remember goin back for Pole Sit`
`06:43.35`	`Bakkoda`	`and lookin around`
`06:43.42`	`Bakkoda`	`wondering where i had been for 5 years`
`06:43.51`	`Antiar1`	`http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=185946`
`06:43.54`	`Bakkoda`	`i was a Sammy`
`06:43.58`	vid`	`http://myspace-808.vo.llnwd.net/00282/80/82/282712808_l.jpg`
`06:44.05`	vid`	`thats one of my only pics i got from roch around atm`
`06:44.18`	`Bakkoda`	`k lot?`
`06:44.26`	vid`	`that was outside my apt @ uc`
`06:44.29`	`Bakkoda`	`ah`
`06:44.40`	`Bakkoda`	`UC went from dumps to like`
`06:44.44`	`Bakkoda`	`holy shit nice`
`06:45.04`	vid`	`i hated roch tho`
`06:45.08`	`Bakkoda`	`yup`
`06:45.08`	vid`	`too much snow`
`06:45.09`	vid`	`too cold`
`06:45.12`	`Bakkoda`	`boring ass town`
`06:45.13`	vid`	`cant enjoy my toys`
`06:45.14`	`Velkyn`	`Quick question: When I am looking at "tekSupport" there are 4 colums for Event handlers.`
`06:45.16`	vid`	`http://myspace-676.vo.llnwd.net/00059/67/60/59440676_l.jpg`
`06:45.17`	vid`	`:)`
`06:45.18`	`Bakkoda`	`bah not enuff snow`
`06:45.20`	`Bakkoda`	`and too flat`
`06:45.24`	`Bakkoda`	`i moved to Buffalo`
`06:45.26`	vid`	`i cant enjoy my toys when it snows :P`
`06:45.27`	`Bakkoda`	`after leaving RIT`
`06:45.30`	`Velkyn`	`Can someone explain the Mem/Exec and Time/Exec cols?`
`06:45.32`	vid`	`i need like florida/texas/etc :P`
`06:45.44`	vid`	`i need some fun winter vehicles :)`
`06:45.50`	`KarlThePagan`	`~seen kagaro`
`06:46.15`	`purl`	`kagaro <n=kagaro@cpe-069-134-153-219.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 39m 22s ago, saying: 'i release 1.o this morning .. I doubt anyone using it yet seriously'.`
`06:46.15`	`Velkyn`	`Go for Arizona, I love Arizona... I need to move out there.`
`06:46.16`	`Bakkoda`	`i think i burned all my pics from RIT`
`06:46.24`	`Bakkoda`	`in a drunken rage one time`
`06:46.42`	`Bakkoda`	`were you at the colonie apartments in liek 02 when the cops showed up en mass?`
`06:46.49`	vid`	`lol`
`06:46.52`	`Bakkoda`	`:)`
`06:46.57`	vid`	`was that when there was those riots`
`06:47.00`	`Bakkoda`	`yup`
`06:47.01`	vid`	`i wasnt there`
`06:47.08`	vid`	`but like 20 people called me`
`06:47.16`	`Bakkoda`	`i was back for Alumni weekend with the fraternity`
`06:47.17`	vid`	`and i was standing across the way from em after`
`06:47.25`	vid`	`we got some good video`
`06:47.45`	`Bakkoda`	`small world`
`06:47.47`	`Bakkoda`	`man`
`06:47.57`	vid`	`efnet #rit :P`
`06:48.34`	`Bakkoda`	`dear lord`
`06:48.35`	vid`	`few smart guys in there`
`06:48.42`	vid`	`one of them is a kernel dev for slackware`
`06:48.56`	vid`	`for instance`
`06:48.57`	vid`	`lol`
`06:49.04`	vid`	`but its mostly alumni, barely any undergrads anymore in there`
`06:49.53`	`Bakkoda`	`i was sort of an anti IT guy`
`06:49.57`	vid`	`haha`
`06:49.57`	`Bakkoda`	`even tho that was my field`
`06:50.02`	vid`	`yea i hear you`
`06:50.04`	vid`	`i hate IT`
`06:50.10`	vid`	`i dont do computer shit for a living anymore`
`06:50.11`	vid`	`:)`
`06:50.17`	`KarlThePagan`	`~seen arjuna`
`06:50.28`	`purl`	`arjuna <n=arjuna@pool-71-254-28-185.clppva.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 12h 23m 59s ago, saying: '?'.`
`06:50.28`	vid`	`i kinda miss it now though that im out of the field`
`06:50.30`	vid`	`because im not enjoying the business im running`
`06:50.37`	vid`	`if i dont start turning a profit within a year im gonn bail`
`06:50.42`	`Bakkoda`	`i run my own business as well`
`06:50.43`	vid`	`and go back to computers`
`06:50.52`	vid`	`cause its not worth the stress`
`06:51.04`	vid`	`ive never been so on edge in my life`
`06:51.13`	vid`	`i wanna punch like 20 holes through my walll at the end of the day`
`06:51.17`	`Bakkoda`	`with a 4 years (5 years actually) degree in sysadmin with a minor and ethics/philosphy`
`06:51.18`	vid`	`right now i'd love to just smash my lcd's`
`06:51.22`	vid`	`and kick my computer to death`
`06:51.25`	vid`	`and have a shitfit`
`06:51.28`	`Bakkoda`	`i now do nothign involving those devil boxes`
`06:51.29`	vid`	`and go spastic`
`06:51.31`	vid`	`but i hold it in`
`06:51.32`	vid`	`:P`
`06:51.36`	`Bakkoda`	`yup`
`06:51.42`	`Bakkoda`	`i burnt out at RIT man`
`06:52.04`	`Bakkoda`	`i occasionally do some scripting for friends`
`06:52.06`	vid`	`only thing that keeps me sane is working on cars now in my free time`
`06:52.12`	vid`	`and ripping around`
`06:52.17`	vid`	`but now tracks are closed for winter`
`06:52.21`	`Bakkoda`	`what ya drive?`
`06:52.23`	vid`	`and too cold for street`
`06:52.25`	vid`	`stang`
`06:52.35`	`Bakkoda`	`looked like one but me + american cars = huh?`
`06:52.41`	vid`	`:P`
`06:52.57`	`Bakkoda`	`used to bum around in a 300zx`
`06:53.02`	`Bakkoda`	`twin turbo v6`
`06:53.29`	vid`	`my car is alright but i want my neighbors`
`06:53.40`	vid`	`yea i love the 300zx`
`06:53.41`	vid`	`nice car`
`06:53.44`	`Bakkoda`	`93`
`06:53.57`	`Bakkoda`	`only year the turbos didnt get so hot you could melt glass with em`
`06:54.10`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r24902 10AltClickToAddItem/ (AltClickToAddItem.lua AltClickToAddItem.toc): AltClickToAddItem: -Added AltClick to initiate trade. Added checks for Fence/Postal so alt handlers will not fight.`
`06:54.25`	`grennon`	`who was it that was bugging me for that earlier`
`06:54.27`	`durcyn`	`grennon: wii inc`
`06:54.47`	`Gngsk`	`grennon, what about any other addons that mess with alt click?`
`06:54.54`	vid`	`http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c339/STWater/NotchSide.jpg`
`06:54.56`	`Bakkoda`	`well the little ones will be awake in 5 hours so im gonna go grab some Zs`
`06:54.59`	vid`	`thats my neighbors`
`06:55.08`	`nymbia`	`Gngsk: sucks to be those addons ;)`
`06:55.08`	vid`	`its a bit faster than mine :P`
`06:55.16`	`Bakkoda`	`my odl neighbor in buffalo`
`06:55.23`	`Bakkoda`	`30 years odl man living with his parents`
`06:55.31`	`durcyn`	`grennon: it was also missing the Ace2 OptDep. add that and i'll toss in an extra wiimote!`
`06:55.35`	`Bakkoda`	`but with 1 and a half lotus's in their garage`
`06:55.49`	vid`	`hehe`
`06:55.53`	`Bakkoda`	`he buys salvages and fixes em up. restretched leather, etc`
`06:55.59`	vid`	`nice`
`06:56.03`	`Bakkoda`	`total loser but killer cars`
`06:56.14`	vid`	`i love working on cars, but it just takes so much time`
`06:56.23`	`Bakkoda`	`im pretty sure he was runnin a small chop chop too tho`
`06:56.29`	`Bakkoda`	`yeah i can onyl do so much`
`06:56.38`	vid`	`costs too much $$ also`
`06:56.38`	`Bakkoda`	`before i get frustrated because i dont know enough`
`06:56.45`	vid`	`i put about $10k into my stang`
`06:56.49`	vid`	`over 3 years`
`06:56.59`	vid`	`my neighbor has about $30k into his in the same time period`
`06:57.01`	vid`	`lol`
`06:57.04`	`Bakkoda`	`wow`
`06:57.12`	`Bakkoda`	`i put liek 3 grand into my nissan lol`
`06:57.14`	vid`	`and he just dropped a new motor into his`
`06:57.20`	vid`	`that was like $4500`
`06:57.28`	vid`	`just for shortblock`
`06:57.29`	vid`	`no heads`
`06:57.36`	`Bakkoda`	`weather here sucks too much`
`06:57.39`	`Bakkoda`	`for that stuff`
`06:57.39`	vid`	`haha yea`
`06:57.44`	vid`	`thats why im glad im not in roch anymore :)`
`06:57.49`	`Bakkoda`	`im in albany now`
`06:57.49`	vid`	`i went nuts for 4 years`
`06:57.59`	vid`	`i wanted to come home first year`
`06:58.04`	vid`	`ia lmost transferred`
`06:58.05`	vid`	`:P`
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`06:58.13`	`Bakkoda`	`where would you have gone?`
`06:58.18`	vid`	`florida institute of tech!`
`06:58.20`	vid`	`i had a free ride`
`06:58.21`	vid`	`haha`
`06:58.24`	`Bakkoda`	`ha`
`06:58.31`	vid`	`but i stayed @ RIT cause it was a better school`
`06:58.33`	vid`	`silly me`
`06:58.36`	`Bakkoda`	`yup`
`06:58.37`	vid`	`coulda been int he nice weather`
`06:58.39`	`Bakkoda`	`ahem`
`06:58.41`	vid`	`surrounded by tons of hot bitches`
`06:58.46`	vid`	`and easy school`
`06:58.54`	vid`	`no stud loans to worry about`
`06:58.55`	`Bakkoda`	`If the video games dont give you carpel tunnel`
`06:58.58`	`Bakkoda`	`the masturbation will`
`06:59.07`	vid`	`smoke all day, drink all night`
`06:59.10`	vid`	`play games`
`06:59.11`	`grennon`	`durcyn: the ace2 optionaldep was in that commit as well`
`06:59.14`	vid`	`goto class once a month`
`06:59.18`	vid`	`get a 4.0`
`06:59.18`	`Bakkoda`	`we had UT tournaments`
`06:59.20`	`Bakkoda`	`nonstop`
`06:59.20`	vid`	`lol`
`06:59.26`	`Bakkoda`	`whole building`
`06:59.29`	`CIA-17`	`03arjuna * r24903 10simpleMinimap/modules/coords.lua:`
`06:59.29`	`CIA-17`	`simpleMinimap:`
`06:59.29`	`CIA-17`	`- hiding coords in instances should work better now`
`06:59.39`	`Bakkoda`	`go down to floor 4 cuz it was smoking`
`06:59.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	vid`: you went to RIT?
`06:59.42`	`Bakkoda`	`burn a few`
`06:59.45`	vid`	`yes`
`06:59.51`	`Bakkoda`	`head back upstairs and just zone out`
`06:59.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`huh, thats neat. So did I :P`
`06:59.59`	vid`	`lol`
`07:00.01`	`Bakkoda`	`omg`
`07:00.03`	`Bakkoda`	`stalkers`
`07:00.05`	vid`	`another one !`
`07:00.06`	vid`	`:)`
`07:00.10`	vid`	`what year you grad`
`07:00.20`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Ahh, couple years ago`
`07:00.26`	vid`	`04?`
`07:00.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Yeah`
`07:00.45`	vid`	`ah me too`
`07:00.48`	vid`	`wonder if i knew you`
`07:00.52`	vid`	`you go for IT?`
`07:00.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Nah, CS`
`07:00.57`	vid`	`ah`
`07:01.08`	`Bakkoda`	`you know a Randy Schneider?`
`07:01.12`	vid`	`i was one of the lazy ones`
`07:01.16`	vid`	`who switched to it`
`07:01.17`	`Bakkoda`	`big wolly dude`
`07:01.22`	vid`	`but got accepted in CS`
`07:01.22`	`Bakkoda`	`*wooly`
`07:01.26`	vid`	`sounds familiar`
`07:01.27`	vid`	`but nope`
`07:01.43`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Bakkoda: hmm, nope..`
`07:01.44`	`Bakkoda`	`only kid i knew in CS who didnt drop out or transfer`
`07:02.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	vid`: hehe, yeah, the joke is that IT stands for "I Transfered" :)
`07:02.31`	vid`	`@ the orientation when they went over CS, i was like omg too hard IT it is`
`07:02.32`	vid`	`lol`
`07:02.39`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`haha`
`07:02.53`	vid`	`and i went to like 50% of my classes`
`07:02.55`	vid`	`senior year was fun`
`07:02.57`	vid`	`foods of the world`
`07:02.59`	vid`	`wines of the world`
`07:03.02`	vid`	`TA for beers of the world`
`07:03.03`	vid`	`billiards`
`07:03.05`	vid`	`:P`
`07:03.12`	`Bakkoda`	`man IT was such a joke. lik half the people took IT because they didnt know what else to take`
`07:03.21`	vid`	`IT really was a joke`
`07:03.26`	vid`	`the IT program needed work`
`07:03.36`	vid`	`i knew 90% of the shit they taught`
`07:03.38`	`Bakkoda`	`the worst was the 4 hour studio`
`07:03.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Yeah, like 3-4 of my friends did that. Just floated through IT, can't say I blame em.`
`07:03.41`	vid`	`but a lot of people struggled bad`
`07:03.44`	vid`	`trust me`
`07:03.46`	`Bakkoda`	`the HTMl course`
`07:03.47`	vid`	`i helped a few people out`
`07:03.53`	`Bakkoda`	`mm`
`07:03.55`	`Bakkoda`	`...something`
`07:03.58`	vid`	`like the more advanced courses getting into linux services and shit`
`07:04.06`	vid`	`apache, etc, people were LOST`
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`07:04.12`	`Bakkoda`	`yeah most of the people i remember in 2001`
`07:04.17`	`Bakkoda`	`once java was the language`
`07:04.19`	vid`	`i felt bad for some people cause they just didnt get it`
`07:04.19`	`Bakkoda`	`it weeded like`
`07:04.22`	`Bakkoda`	`95% out`
`07:04.38`	vid`	`my lab partner used to get pissed cause i went to 2, i kid you not 2 lectures for the entire course`
`07:04.38`	`Bakkoda`	`i tutored at the LSA and i remember so many kids coming in`
`07:04.44`	vid`	`one was midterm, one was final`
`07:04.45`	vid`	`:P`
`07:04.46`	`Bakkoda`	`ha`
`07:04.50`	vid`	`oh im sorry 3`
`07:04.53`	vid`	`i did goto the first class`
`07:04.56`	`Bakkoda`	`ofc`
`07:05.02`	vid`	`to get the syllabus`
`07:05.06`	vid`	`and see attendance wasnt required`
`07:05.20`	`Feoron`	`I hate to break in but I have a question`
`07:05.21`	`Bakkoda`	`ever take european history with the crazy italian guy?`
`07:05.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I think for Sys Admin 2, I went to all of 3 lectures the entire time. Got a B in the class.`
`07:05.27`	vid`	`no questions allowed!!`
`07:05.27`	`Bakkoda`	`who wrote the textbook?`
`07:05.29`	vid`	`:P`
`07:05.32`	`Feoron`	`=(`
`07:05.47`	vid`	`no i took american history cause again i was lazy in college`
`07:05.51`	vid`	`lol`
`07:05.52`	`Feoron`	`trying to find information about a line I found in a addon`
`07:05.52`	`Feoron`	`local channel,chatnumber = ChatFrameEditBox.chatType;`
`07:06.09`	vid`	`k but now im gonna really get no sleep`
`07:06.15`	vid`	`i gotta wake up in like 4 hours now :\`
`07:06.17`	vid`	`later`
`07:06.20`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ouch. later. :P`
`07:06.30`	`Feoron`	`ahh I chaced him off`
`07:06.33`	vid`	`anyone want to buy a business?`
`07:06.35`	`Bakkoda`	`i wake up when a small human being starts screaming`
`07:06.38`	vid`	`that grosses absolutely nothing`
`07:06.38`	`Bakkoda`	`haha`
`07:06.42`	`Bakkoda`	`nt`
`07:06.49`	vid`	`and requires working 7 days a week 14 hours a day`
`07:06.57`	`Bakkoda`	`sell your organs`
`07:06.59`	vid`	`and lots of travel that you dont get reimbursed for?`
`07:07.00`	`Bakkoda`	`itll be less painful`
`07:07.01`	vid`	`great thanks`
`07:07.04`	`Kemayo`	vid`: Sorry, already have one.
`07:07.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`that sounds.. oh so appealing. but sadly, i must decline. :P`
`07:07.27`	`Feoron`	`so no info on ChatFrameEditBox.chatType??`
`07:07.30`	vid`	`im gonna start a porn site`
`07:07.32`	vid`	`one of these days`
`07:07.38`	vid`	`so maybe i can live the easy life`
`07:07.43`	vid`	`(yea right)`
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`07:07.51`	`Thorgard`	Whet the heck kind of business are you running, vid`?
`07:07.57`	vid`	`i think all the smart people went to bed Feoron`
`07:07.58`	vid`	`:P`
`07:08.02`	`Feoron`	`LOL`
`07:08.04`	`Bakkoda`	`child smuggling`
`07:08.04`	`CIA-17`	`03dahn * r24904 10DKPmon/ (DKPmon.toc Looting/lootitem.lua): DKPmon: fix tooltip, update TOC`
`07:08.07`	`Feoron`	`alrighty`
`07:08.14`	`Feoron`	`I guess I can check back tomorrow`
`07:08.14`	vid`	`i know 0 lua`
`07:08.15`	vid`	`sorry`
`07:08.26`	vid`	`Thorgard: nothing related to computers`
`07:08.33`	vid`	`i do vinyl replacement windows`
`07:08.35`	`Thorgard`	vid`, so you're a janitor?
`07:08.38`	`Thorgard`	`Oh.`
`07:08.43`	vid`	`sales and install`
`07:08.50`	`Bakkoda`	`id be a janitor`
`07:08.51`	vid`	`i dont install`
`07:08.54`	`Bakkoda`	`vs being IT`
`07:08.56`	vid`	`i have like 6 guys who do it for me`
`07:09.03`	vid`	`but i need sales guys`
`07:09.04`	vid`	`im an IT nerd`
`07:09.06`	vid`	`i suck @ sales`
`07:09.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Feoron: just a random guess, but It looks like ChatFrameEditBox.chatType represents what channel the exit box for chat is currently set to.`
`07:09.16`	`CIA-17`	`03dahn * r24905 10DKPmon/DKPSystems/baseclass.lua: DKPmon: fix improper sign in PointsDB:SetPoints()`
`07:09.22`	vid`	`i need some cute flirty girl to go sell windows for me`
`07:09.29`	vid`	`im gonna hire a whole team of cute girls`
`07:09.37`	`BakkodaSleep`	`go to a strip club`
`07:09.52`	`BakkodaSleep`	`leave some flyers`
`07:10.02`	`KarlThePagan`	`bah... carto mining lost features :(`
`07:10.05`	`BakkodaSleep`	`Foxy Cat @ rochester`
`07:10.05`	`Feoron`	`lol that won't get you killed`
`07:10.10`	`BakkodaSleep`	`ha`
`07:10.11`	`BakkodaSleep`	`sorry`
`07:10.14`	`BakkodaSleep`	`bad memories`
`07:10.24`	vid`	`k laters goddamn pc`
`07:11.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`man. i never want to even -see- rochester again.`
`07:14.21`	`vhaarr`	`Highlord Kruul in Hinterlands o_O`
`07:14.56`	`nymbia`	`he spawns whereever he damn well feels like it ;)`
`07:15.13`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Kruul's a jerk.`
`07:15.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I liked kazzak better`
`07:15.29`	`durcyn`	`NightHawkTheSane: he'll be back. Doom Lord Kazzak at 70 :o`
`07:15.30`	`vhaarr`	`so, those dogs of his, when do they despawn?`
`07:15.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`durcyn: yeah i know. :P`
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`07:16.04`	`vhaarr`	`ah, there they go`
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`07:18.41`	`Fisker-`	`Anyone got a quests/vendors sv for bloodelves?`
`07:20.48`	`art3mis`	`hey ya know that addon that shows on the minimap your casting range?`
`07:21.01`	`art3mis`	`is making that appear on the ground even remotely possible?`
`07:21.51`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`nope.`
`07:23.01`	`Fisker-`	`You have no control over the game engine in that way no`
`07:23.16`	`Fisker-`	`You could technically overlay a minimap with some guesstimates`
`07:23.20`	`Fisker-`	`but i doubt anyone has done it`
`07:23.54`	`Fisker-`	`Also pretty useless unless you're a hunter`
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`07:26.16`	`KarlThePagan`	`wtb moar Grouper testers <3 - http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5896/grouper-lfg-browserauto-lfg/`
`07:26.42`	`KarlThePagan`	`zzz`
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`07:30.46`	`CIA-17`	`03laotseu * r24906 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.toc:`
`07:30.47`	`CIA-17`	`AllPlayed:`
`07:30.47`	`CIA-17`	`- Change to TOC 2004 and version 2004-1`
`07:30.47`	`CIA-17`	`- Attempt to force on the wiki page to correct it`
`07:31.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`toc 2004? o_0?`
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`07:34.02`	`Fisker-`	`fail`
`07:34.02`	`Fisker-`	`:P`
`07:34.13`	`Mimesis`	`anyone know of an addon that has an autohidable sidebar? out of combat only would be fine i guess`
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`07:39.58`	`Kelben`	`hey all - one question is it possible to test a bigwigs mod ie thaddius arrows without actually being at thaddius?`
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`07:40.19`	`Kelben`	`I need to make sure everyone is running said mod and we have a lot mod challenged people`
`07:40.58`	`Kelben`	`just some command that would cause the arrow mod to think the thaddius fight had started and give people arrows`
`07:41.26`	`Kelben`	`currently when we go there we hope that everyone mod is working but it usually results in a wipe because someone's mod isn't working`
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`07:47.32`	`durcyn`	`did i misunderstand that patch note?`
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`07:50.00`	`CIA-17`	`03antiarc * r24907 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.xml SanityItemCache.lua): Sanity2: Looping over the right indexes might help, durr.`
`07:50.39`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`psh. looping over correct indices is for noobs. :P`
`07:51.47`	`Antiar1`	`Indeed.`
`07:53.57`	`Velkyn`	`woh`
`07:53.57`	`nymbia`	`take that, pratchett!`
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`07:56.02`	`CIA-17`	`03gamefaq * r24908 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-deDE.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Updated deDE Local`
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`07:56.51`	`Velkyn`	`eeeek!`
`07:56.51`	`Gamefaq\|afk`	`O.o`
`07:57.02`	`Kelben`	`dang`
`07:57.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`<3 netsplits`
`07:57.10`	`Kelben`	`what is a netsplit`
`07:58.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ahh.. its when one irc node server disconnects from the network so all the channels "split"`
`07:58.56`	`Gamefaq\|afk`	`a irc server with users lost his connection to the masterserver`
`07:59.29`	`Velkyn`	`Someone in here wanna take some time and explain the results of teksupport to me?`
`08:01.44`	`Kelben`	`alright - since theres more people here now, I have one question about bigwigs`
`08:02.39`	`Kelben`	`My guild has members that can be mod challenged and we run into conflicts all the time where peoples mods don't work, what I'd like to know is it possible to test bigwig mods ahead of time to make sure everyone's copy is workign correctly`
`08:03.17`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: sec`
`08:03.18`	`Kelben`	`ie thaddius arrow mod plugin, is there some way to trigger the mod without being at the thaddius fight and I can ask does everyone see arrows on their screen?`
`08:03.41`	`Feldia`	`you can manually start the thaddius plugin`
`08:03.50`	`Feldia`	`everyone should see "thaddius mod enabled" in the middle of their screen`
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`08:04.08`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Hi, I'm rabbit.`
`08:04.21`	`Velkyn`	`Eeek! Rabbit!`
`08:04.24`	`Kelben`	`yeah but I'd like to go a step further and actually have the arrows trigger :)`
`08:04.38`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: The problem is that the ThaddiusArrows module is LoD, so you'll have to force your raid to load it first.`
`08:04.49`	`Kelben`	`I can do that do much`
`08:05.19`	`vhaarr`	`If you can do that, it's no problem.`
`08:05.21`	`Mimesis`	`cant you just mimic the addon chat message`
`08:05.33`	`Kelben`	`I wouldn't know how to do that`
`08:05.39`	`vhaarr`	`No, I would've said so if that was possible.`
`08:05.41`	`Mimesis`	`for loading the module, if it even uses that`
`08:05.48`	`Mimesis`	`:(`
`08:05.50`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: You have to tell people in your raid to load the module.`
`08:06.02`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Do you know how to do that?`
`08:06.05`	`Kelben`	`yeah we go through that ever thadd fight`
`08:06.13`	`vhaarr`	`okay`
`08:06.16`	`Kelben`	`and make sure everyone has the thaddius arrow mod loaded`
`08:06.21`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Once you enter Naxxramas, the addon is loaded.`
`08:06.40`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Then you can easily see who has the module and not using the VersionQuery plugin.`
`08:06.59`	`Kelben`	`not using?`
`08:07.00`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Instead of querying for a specific zone, just enter the name of the module you want to query.`
`08:07.04`	`vhaarr`	`err`
`08:07.06`	`vhaarr`	`-not :)`
`08:07.10`	`Neebler`	`VersionQuery should be a standalone addon for every single addon`
`08:07.10`	`Kelben`	`ah gotcha`
`08:07.32`	`Gngsk`	`oh, that's neat`
`08:07.32`	`Neebler`	`whoever has it on your server. you can see a list of thier loaded addons`
`08:07.35`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: But you should also make sure everyone has the same strategy set.`
`08:07.47`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Do you do that?`
`08:07.53`	`Neebler`	`that would be leeto amirite?`
`08:07.59`	`Kelben`	`but theres no way to force the mod to think the fight has started and have an arrow in the middle of their screen and I could ask do you see an arrow pointing left?`
`08:08.08`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Yes, there is.`
`08:08.12`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: But that's very complicated.`
`08:08.25`	`CIA-17`	`03totalpackage * r24909 10Capping/ (Capping.toc localization-frFR.lua):`
`08:08.25`	`CIA-17`	`Capping`
`08:08.25`	`CIA-17`	`- FR localization update`
`08:08.27`	`Kelben`	`yup no worries on the strat setting either`
`08:08.37`	`vhaarr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:08.40`	`vhaarr`	`I think it was.`
`08:09.21`	`Kelben`	`yeah thats the broastcast command`
`08:09.22`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: I haven't used the mod myself in at least 2 months, so it is possible that some bug has surfaced since then.`
`08:09.44`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: How many people are reporting problems, and what kind of problems?`
`08:10.16`	`Kelben`	`last time we raided thadd everyone had the module loaded but only 1/2 the raid had the arrows actually show up when they recieved the debuff`
`08:10.27`	`Kelben`	`that was about a month ago`
`08:10.37`	`Kelben`	`the week of the big talent patch`
`08:10.42`	`Kelben`	`or maybe the week after`
`08:10.47`	`*** join/#wowace TheKarn (n=thekarn@82-69-81-74.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk)`
`08:11.16`	`Kelben`	`and we're looking at going back to thadd on sunday but we really don't want to goof around after we get to thadd and find out that people's copies don't work`
`08:11.56`	`Kelben`	`which is why I was hoping for a command to test the mod and then I can do some one on one with those that don't see the arrows`
`08:12.24`	`CIA-17`	`03antiarc * r24910 10Sanity2/SanityItemCache.lua: Sanity2: More DB upgrade fixes to the error that JUST WON'T DIE.`
`08:12.25`	`vhaarr`	`I can give you that.`
`08:12.40`	`Kelben`	`=D`
`08:12.58`	`vhaarr`	`or, hm`
`08:14.52`	`nee-lap`	`Good morning`
`08:15.14`	`nee-lap`	`Does anyone know if there is a fix for the 'leaving the battlegrounds but being stuck in the raidgroup' bug?`
`08:15.18`	`nee-lap`	`a workaround at least?`
`08:15.54`	`Antiar1`	`hahah, score`
`08:16.04`	`Antiar1`	`So, when 2.0.3 hit, we went to Deadwind and farmed level 70 mobs`
`08:16.13`	`Antiar1`	`They dropped Netherweave which we put up for 10g per piece or so`
`08:16.25`	`Antiar1`	`It has apparently stuck that way in many auctioneer databases, because prices are -insane-`
`08:16.51`	`vhaarr`	`lol, evul`
`08:17.09`	`Antiar1`	`I plan to exploit that mightily for the first week BC is out`
`08:17.16`	`Adirelle`	`morning`
`08:17.17`	`vhaarr`	`I remember the first Runecloth entries after retail hit, they were quite expensive as well :P`
`08:18.02`	`Antiar1`	`Selling Netherweave! Only 3g per piece!`
`08:18.02`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: It won't do you any good.`
`08:18.02`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Anyway, there are some things you can do.`
`08:18.02`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Get BigWigs_Debugger.`
`08:18.12`	`Kelben`	`alright`
`08:18.17`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Learn to use it, and be here on IRC while you're raiding. Someone (me, if I'm here) can always help you.`
`08:18.28`	`sylvanaar`	`o.o my c# is rusty,`
`08:19.01`	`Adirelle`	`if I check out the trunk, restricted to top level, and then do an update will it get all the repository ?`
`08:19.08`	`sylvanaar`	`but, theres support for displaying the list of /files mirrors in WAU coming`
`08:19.13`	`Antiar1`	`Adirelle: Yes`
`08:19.16`	`Adirelle`	`or will it just update`
`08:19.19`	`Fisker-`	`Antiar1 any idea why my increasing rate can get up to 2MiB/s when scrolling fastly through the bags?`
`08:19.25`	`Adirelle`	`s/or will it just update /nvm/`
`08:19.27`	`sylvanaar`	`blame prat`
`08:19.33`	`sylvanaar`	`everyone else does`
`08:19.46`	`Antiar1`	`Fisker-: Still tracking that down. I'm aware of it though and am aiming to get rid of it.`
`08:19.46`	`Kelben`	`heh alright I was really hoping there would be a command like /bwta test left arrow`
`08:19.52`	`Kelben`	`or something simple like that`
`08:19.54`	`Fisker-`	`nah`
`08:20.03`	`Adirelle`	`Antiar1: thx for answer`
`08:20.05`	`Fisker-`	`thanks anywas Antiar1 but i'll just blame prat`
`08:20.10`	`Antiar1`	`Hehe, ok`
`08:20.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`even if there was again all it would do is display an arrow meaning the module is loaded, you can do that with the versionquery`
`08:21.35`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: It wouldn't do you any good.`
`08:21.46`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: The actual arrows would not be the problem.`
`08:21.58`	`*** join/#wowace Mery (i=metelman@p57A9513E.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`08:22.04`	`nee-lap`	`Does anyone know if there is a fix for the 'leaving the battlegrounds but being stuck in the raidgroup' bug?`
`08:22.12`	`vhaarr`	`we heard you the first time, nee`
`08:22.28`	`Antiar1`	`Did you try /script LeaveParty() ?`
`08:22.32`	`Kelben`	`I think what happens is people run very different versions of bigwigs or thadd arrows`
`08:22.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`which the versionquery will tell you`
`08:23.00`	`vhaarr`	`indeed`
`08:23.01`	`Kelben`	`and they're not compatible with each or something`
`08:23.02`	`nee-lap`	`Antiar1: But if I am in a party before I am in the battlegrounds, I would leave the BG group before this bug and be in the party again`
`08:23.13`	`nee-lap`	`Now I'm stuck in the raid group even when leaving BG`
`08:23.31`	`Antiar1`	`No idea. I haven't seen it.`
`08:23.38`	`nee-lap`	`ok`
`08:23.46`	`nee-lap`	`perhaps it's ag_UF`
`08:24.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`afaik the thaddius arrows module shouldnt be effected by different people having different versions since i dont see how or why it would sync`
`08:24.56`	`Kelben`	`alright rabbit another question`
`08:25.07`	`Kelben`	`why wouldn't a person see the load all options`
`08:25.30`	`vhaarr`	`if he doesn't have any addons to load`
`08:26.00`	`Kelben`	`were running the same version and i have that option and he doesn't`
`08:26.02`	`CIA-17`	`03fatherjim * r24911 10loudmouth/ (loudmouth.lua loudmouth.xml):`
`08:26.02`	`CIA-17`	`loudmouth:`
`08:26.03`	`CIA-17`	`- 'Fixed' the Multi-Line Edit Box border to work correctly, also incorporated a few random bug fixes as I noticed them.`
`08:26.25`	`vhaarr`	`Then you have some 3rd party module that he doesn't have.`
`08:26.42`	`vhaarr`	`Or you're running LoD and he's not.`
`08:26.59`	`Kelben`	`and the thadd arrow mod is said 3rd part module correct?`
`08:27.20`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`08:27.38`	`vhaarr`	`it is one of many`
`08:27.45`	`Kelben`	`because he says the thadd arrow mod is ticked off in his addon screen but yet he doesn't have the load all nor is the thadd arrow showing up under his extra menu`
`08:28.09`	`vhaarr`	`Naxxramas -> Load All?`
`08:28.20`	`Kelben`	`yes he doesn't have that`
`08:28.34`	`vhaarr`	`And he has the latest revision of both?`
`08:28.42`	`*** join/#wowace OvrLrd-Q (i=ZOMG@ip72-204-38-20.fv.ks.cox.net)`
`08:28.49`	`Kelben`	`he has the lastest bigwigs`
`08:28.58`	`*** join/#wowace malifae (n=chatzill@cpe-066-057-115-063.nc.res.rr.com)`
`08:29.03`	`Kelben`	`can't check the thadd arrow version number`
`08:29.10`	`Kelben`	`nm`
`08:29.22`	`Kelben`	`he didn't have the mod check off ; /`
`08:29.29`	`vhaarr`	`right`
`08:29.31`	`Kelben`	`despite me asking multiple time`
`08:29.33`	`Kelben`	`gah`
`08:29.41`	`art3mis`	`anyone using eqcompare?`
`08:29.54`	`grennon`	`thad arrows needs the be standalone`
`08:30.00`	`Velkyn`	`Art3mis: I do.`
`08:30.16`	`art3mis`	`can you hovercheck in the general chat channel?`
`08:30.35`	`art3mis`	`err general window`
`08:30.42`	`Velkyn`	`Art3mis: Let me check...`
`08:30.55`	`art3mis`	`i could in beta but for some reason it stopped working in live`
`08:31.01`	`grennon`	`the whole "have a working version of bigwigs" thing is too advanced for some of the nubs in my guild`
`08:31.12`	`art3mis`	`rdx.cid`
`08:31.44`	`Velkyn`	`Art3mis: I just checked and it doesn't pop up anything on hover, and I don't recall it ever doing so (which I am glad) :)`
`08:31.54`	`art3mis`	`hrm thats odd`
`08:32.01`	`grennon`	`oh yeah, having them install rdx would be great, that way they can keep asking me why it wont load`
`08:32.01`	`art3mis`	`i swore that it used to do that`
`08:32.03`	`Velkyn`	`use /eqcompare`
`08:32.05`	`nee-lap`	`Does anyone here have the problem of not leaving the battleground group after leaving battlegrounds?`
`08:32.16`	`grennon`	`even after i tell them a million times to load VFL`
`08:32.21`	`Velkyn`	`it looks like there is a cmd to toggle hoverlinks and hoverlinkssafe or something lik ethat.`
`08:32.28`	`Velkyn`	`Nee: I dont, no.`
`08:32.54`	`Kelben`	`I'm doing the version query check for the thaddius arrows and it can't detect him`
`08:32.57`	`art3mis`	`yeah neither seems to do anything`
`08:33.08`	`Velkyn`	`Art3mis: Yeah boss, you just need to use /eqcompare, to set it.`
`08:33.11`	`art3mis`	`it works in all other windows except general`
`08:33.14`	`Velkyn`	`hmm`
`08:33.27`	`Kelben`	`but he is getting the boardcast command`
`08:33.31`	`art3mis`	`tried both ways even tried with the hover-key`
`08:33.45`	`Kelben`	`and he has both thaddius and thaddius arrow mod activated`
`08:33.45`	`art3mis`	`laugh grennon`
`08:33.46`	`nee-lap`	`rats`
`08:33.54`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Put my name before anything you want to tell me.`
`08:33.57`	`art3mis`	`one of the raddest things about rdx.cid is that he set up an svn`
`08:34.03`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: You were just lucky I read it now.`
`08:34.08`	`art3mis`	`and its free ;P`
`08:34.13`	`Kelben`	`ah`
`08:34.16`	`Kelben`	`will do`
`08:34.30`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: What did you write in the version query?`
`08:34.37`	`art3mis`	`hrm i think i need to find a new addon that can hover check items`
`08:34.40`	`Kelben`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:34.53`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: What do you mean by "but he is getting the boardcast command" ?`
`08:35.03`	`art3mis`	`since my trade channel is in the general tab and it used to do it in general and now only does it in other winders`
`08:35.06`	`Neebler`	`has anyone tryed RDX.cid? does it have the massive memory leak that the original RDX did?`
`08:35.16`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: it detects my thaddius arrows version number and if i do the /bwtabc he see that`
`08:35.26`	`art3mis`	`i use it`
`08:35.29`	`art3mis`	`and nope it doesnt`
`08:35.34`	`*** join/#wowace Deviad (n=Deviad@81-208-83-249.fastres.net)`
`08:35.38`	`art3mis`	`they actually re-wrote and cleaned up a lot of the code`
`08:35.43`	`Neebler`	`awesome I'll try it out`
`08:35.43`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: And what if you VersionQuery for "BigWigs" ?`
`08:35.47`	`Deviad`	`Hey guys, good morning!`
`08:35.50`	`art3mis`	`rdx.emoemu.com`
`08:35.56`	`Deviad`	`ha anyone already had burning crusade?`
`08:36.00`	`nee-lap`	`good morning Deviad`
`08:36.07`	`art3mis`	`the only thing you need to do is get mainassist`
`08:36.17`	`Deviad`	`I read stores started to ship it before the roll out date.`
`08:36.19`	`art3mis`	`becauise the rdx.cid doesnt have the ctra sync code in it`
`08:36.32`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: shows our names with version 24238`
`08:36.33`	`Deviad`	`rollout*`
`08:36.36`	`Adirelle`	`i'll end up installing activeperl on my machine :s`
`08:36.42`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: okay, that's fucked up`
`08:36.47`	`art3mis`	`amazon informed me today that the ship date they have on the site is wrong and itll be here for the 16th`
`08:36.50`	`Kelben`	`eh?`
`08:37.10`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: plugins version query bigwigs`
`08:37.10`	`Deviad`	`art3mis, I wish someone will put on-line the ISO of the game`
`08:37.18`	`Adirelle`	`just to have a script switching between \x\y and bare char encoding :s`
`08:37.20`	`art3mis`	`youll still need a key`
`08:37.25`	`Deviad`	`I bought the game but I don't wanna wait till 18 or 19 to get it`
`08:37.25`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: yes, but it's strange`
`08:37.34`	`Deviad`	`I'm sure someone will get it on the 16th :D`
`08:37.38`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: plguins version query zone thaddius arrows`
`08:37.45`	`art3mis`	`youll still need a cd kwey`
`08:37.47`	`art3mis`	`key`
`08:37.52`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: "Thaddius Arrows"`
`08:37.58`	`Deviad`	`art3mis, the vendor told me will e-mail me that`
`08:37.59`	`Kelben`	`quotes or caps?`
`08:38.00`	`art3mis`	`they changed it ;P`
`08:38.04`	`Deviad`	`so I can play immediately :P`
`08:38.06`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: caps`
`08:38.09`	`art3mis`	`oh heh`
`08:38.14`	`art3mis`	`well then good luck ;)`
`08:38.15`	`Deviad`	`but I will get the box the 18th or the 19th prolly`
`08:38.30`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`is there an ace2 addon that lets you scroll the chat window with your mousewheel, that's the only functionality I'm missing from CTMod`
`08:38.40`	`art3mis`	`chatscroll`
`08:38.41`	`Deviad`	`yeah`
`08:38.42`	`Deviad`	`prat`
`08:38.45`	`art3mis`	`or prat`
`08:38.46`	`Deviad`	`well prat does a lot more`
`08:38.48`	`Deviad`	`:P`
`08:38.49`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: says N/A by his name when i query the mod`
`08:38.53`	`art3mis`	`prat makes yer chat winders uigly though`
`08:39.00`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: right, so he doesn't have it.`
`08:39.17`	`Deviad`	`yesterday I made my frist 1k honor. :P`
`08:39.25`	`Deviad`	`lvl 55 not bad :D`
`08:39.27`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Your mate is either missing a mod or has done something wrong when installing them.`
`08:39.33`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`chatscroll eh`
`08:39.41`	`Deviad`	`yeah, or prat! :P`
`08:39.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`prat doesnt do anything you don't tell it to do :P`
`08:39.54`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: zone Thaddius Arrows Nr Replies 3 the 23229 by my name and N/A by his`
`08:40.05`	`Deviad`	`Is anyone going to have the EU version of burning crusade on the 16th?`
`08:40.09`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`well prat is part of our guild pack but I didn't install it . . . might as well`
`08:40.46`	`Kelben`	`but yet he does have the mod :(`
`08:40.49`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: yeah, so something is wrong at his end.`
`08:40.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`It's a good mod, OvrLrd-Q`
`08:41.01`	`vhaarr`	`Maybe he has it, but it's not the right version.`
`08:41.04`	`vhaarr`	`Or it's not enabled properly.`
`08:41.10`	`Kelben`	`vhaar i'm going to ask him to do the version query on the mod ; / see what happens`
`08:41.14`	`vhaarr`	`Or he has some errors that prevent things from running.`
`08:41.20`	`grennon`	`ewwww`
`08:41.25`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Ask him if he has any errors?`
`08:41.30`	`grennon`	`i just downloaded this RDX.cid`
`08:41.43`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`will /reloadui pick up new addons? or just changed ones?`
`08:41.43`	`grennon`	`its version of raitem doesnt use GetItemCount`
`08:41.51`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: how would he know an error lol`
`08:42.01`	`nymbia`	`grennon: what's it do, iterate the bags?`
`08:42.09`	`grennon`	`yeah, still`
`08:42.13`	`nymbia`	`rofl`
`08:42.14`	`grennon`	`thats a small fix though`
`08:42.21`	`nymbia`	`still, sloppy.`
`08:42.23`	`Neebler`	`fix it on their svn :P`
`08:42.37`	`nymbia`	`rdx..?`
`08:42.52`	`grennon`	`the raid suite made famous by some uberguilds`
`08:43.00`	`Neebler`	`Raid Data Exchance, it's like BigWigs`
`08:43.02`	`vhaarr`	`No uberguilds have used RDX.`
`08:43.03`	`grennon`	`this is a fork of it someone just mentioned`
`08:43.09`	`grennon`	`CQ`
`08:43.12`	`Neebler`	`Overrated!`
`08:43.13`	`vhaarr`	`All world first kills have been done with CTMod or BigWigs.`
`08:43.20`	`vhaarr`	`Including C'Thun, Sapphiron and KT.`
`08:43.32`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: is there a slash command to check the version number or do you have to nagivate through the bw menus`
`08:43.33`	`grennon`	`CQ uses their own RDX fork`
`08:43.44`	`grennon`	`or did anyway`
`08:43.48`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: There's a slash command for everything in the menus.`
`08:43.55`	`Neebler`	`Alot of uberguilds have used custom written RDX bossmods to do their first kills of naxx boss'`
`08:44.06`	`Neebler`	`before bigwigs had bossmods written for them`
`08:44.10`	`grennon`	`the old feature that used to attract uberguilds was the ability to logout people using RDX`
`08:44.19`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: could you tell me what the command who be :)`
`08:44.20`	`grennon`	`so if some fignut went afk you could log them out the instance`
`08:44.52`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: /bw Plugins Version zone Thaddius Arrows`
`08:44.57`	`grennon`	`not sure if that still works or not in 2.0 but i havent kept up with`
`08:45.22`	`grennon`	`but yeah, the eggtimer and such made doing new bosses a bit easier if you knew how to use it`
`08:45.26`	`vhaarr`	`Some "uber" guilds might've used it, but C'thun, Sapphiron and KT went down with BigWigs world first.`
`08:45.27`	`Kelben`	`thanks`
`08:45.29`	`vhaarr`	`And second as well.`
`08:46.16`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: he has the same issue as well`
`08:46.24`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: What issue?`
`08:46.28`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`rofl, that sounds like wouldn't ever be abused grennon lol`
`08:46.34`	`grennon`	`rdx is more than bossmods vhaarr`
`08:46.40`	`vhaarr`	`grennon: I don't care.`
`08:46.54`	`grennon`	`its the whole suite, its like ctra+ctrabossmods or ora+bigwigs`
`08:47.02`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: he sees the same thing I do, version number by his name and n/a by mine`
`08:47.14`	`grennon`	`plus tools like eggtimers and such, its not an apples/apples comparison`
`08:47.16`	`vhaarr`	`grennon: I'm telling you the guys who got those bosses first in WoW didn't use RDX.`
`08:47.24`	`vhaarr`	`grennon: And that's that.`
`08:47.27`	`grennon`	`vhaarr: and your point is?`
`08:48.11`	`vhaarr`	`grennon: You said "the raid suite made famous by some uberguilds", and I'm just saying there are uberguilds that don't use it.`
`08:48.26`	`vhaarr`	`grennon: In fact, the most uber guilds, the ones that got the world firsts and seconds, do not use it.`
`08:48.32`	`vhaarr`	`grennon: That's my point.`
`08:48.33`	`grennon`	`vhaarr: that logically follows, its not a pissing match about which is better`
`08:48.47`	`vhaarr`	`grennon: What is it, then?`
`08:48.52`	`nee-lap`	`He said 'some' afterall.`
`08:48.57`	`grennon`	`someone asked "whats rdx", and most people know of it because of the fact that a few guilds were using it`
`08:49.07`	`grennon`	`and it was fairly private at the time`
`08:49.09`	`Kelben`	`and charge money for it`
`08:49.18`	`nymbia`	`i can't understand why people would shell out money for an addon, especially when 95% of the functionality is available with free addons.`
`08:49.22`	`grennon`	`so people had these conspiracy theories about it`
`08:49.27`	`grennon`	`and assumed it had magical powers`
`08:49.31`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: hrm`
`08:49.50`	`grennon`	`in actuality it was just a onestop raiding mod that used a heavy gui toolkit with clumsy widgets`
`08:50.02`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: currently I'm the leader of the raid and he has an A`
`08:50.11`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: I think I know why, give me a sec.`
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`08:50.23`	`grennon`	`not a fan of the VFL gui framework at all`
`08:50.26`	`kebinusan`	`rdx had some nice features first`
`08:50.41`	`vhaarr`	`before it started stealing all its features from wowace.com, yeah.`
`08:50.43`	`kebinusan`	`being an all in one package it allowed some pretty unique things`
`08:50.47`	`kebinusan`	`raid layouts per boss`
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`08:50.57`	`kebinusan`	`was probably my fav`
`08:51.08`	`grennon`	`i liked the tank stats lookup`
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`08:51.28`	`grennon`	`figuring out AC/stam/def to assign MT/OTs for PW was nice`
`08:51.49`	`Kemayo`	`How much did they charge for it?`
`08:51.56`	`kebinusan`	`it also did alot more serious syncing for boss mogs quite a while before bigwigs`
`08:52.02`	`kebinusan`	`*mods`
`08:52.08`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24912 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/filelist.wau: !!!StandaloneLibraries: WAU Trigger file for unpack/pack operation. Result of running makefilelist.bat and renaming filelist to filelist.wau`
`08:53.13`	`grennon`	`whiteboardNG is a copycat of an RDX feature`
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`08:53.26`	`kebinusan`	`the other thing it does I still kind of like is having two timer frames and the ability to move timers between them`
`08:53.29`	`grennon`	`they do innovate even if i dont like the quality/usablity`
`08:53.32`	`Neebler`	`whiteboardNG is fricking incredible`
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`08:53.44`	`vhaarr`	`They steal as well.`
`08:53.48`	`kebinusan`	`I always liked timers moving to my center screen as things were coming up`
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`08:53.54`	`Deviad`	`can anyone send me a pm with some networks like osiric cos I lost the entries in client when I reinstalled it.`
`08:54.00`	`Neebler`	`it was just 1 guy who made/updated RDX`
`08:54.08`	`Deviad`	`in my client*`
`08:55.16`	`Deviad`	`Btw, the author of ag uf should be told that sometimes when you click on some of the party unit frames you cannot target the player`
`08:55.21`	`Deviad`	`and you have to run /reloadui`
`08:56.20`	`Neebler`	`post it in his forum thread on www.wowace.com`
`08:57.50`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24913 10BigWigs/Plugins/Version.lua: BigWigs: Version: Properly return the revision for non-boss modules.`
`08:57.57`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Try now.`
`08:58.04`	`Kelben`	`guess that means we both need to update?`
`08:58.06`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Both should update - I hope you run SVN.`
`08:58.34`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: unforunately no :(`
`08:58.44`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Then you have to wait for the ZIP script.`
`08:58.49`	`vhaarr`	`Takes up to 20min.`
`08:58.52`	`Kelben`	`ah`
`08:59.48`	`odt`	`is it possible to have the sanity fubar display not shot total bag space, just the used/empty number?`
`08:59.55`	`odt`	`s/shot/show/`
`09:01.13`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: I've tried to use SVN and it confused the hell out of me, I managed to get to the part where I could see filelists on through the SVN client but then I didn't know what to do`
`09:01.23`	`vhaarr`	`okay`
`09:01.42`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: Sounds like you think it's more advanced than it is.`
`09:01.53`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: got it off aceupdater`
`09:02.01`	`vhaarr`	`BW?`
`09:03.18`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: yes the version number doesn't reflect it in the bw version query though`
`09:03.47`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: I didn't touch the core version, I only updated the VersionQuery plugin.`
`09:04.10`	`Kelben`	`nod`
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`09:05.13`	`Antiar1`	`odt: Not currntly`
`09:06.21`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: it works`
`09:06.26`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: okay`
`09:06.32`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`goddamn it, why cant i login with my firefox on the forums :(`
`09:06.44`	`vhaarr`	`FtH\|Daemona: Works for me.`
`09:06.45`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: some tiny script error i take it?`
`09:06.56`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: what?`
`09:07.20`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: the reason why we couldn't see the others version`
`09:07.21`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`vhaarr i know it works, it just doesnt work on this machine with firefox... tells me crap about cookies... but if i allow the page more it probably could cook coffee with my laptop ;)`
`09:07.28`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: yes, was my fault.`
`09:07.29`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`say: i allowed cookies and scripts`
`09:07.39`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: lol thanks again`
`09:07.39`	`vhaarr`	`FtH\|Daemona: :P`
`09:08.11`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: get BW_Debugger`
`09:08.32`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`An Error Has Occurred!`
`09:08.32`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`You were unable to login. Please check your cookie settings.`
`09:08.35`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`-.-`
`09:08.39`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: already done, and I'm clueless to the next step`
`09:08.43`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`BS`
`09:08.50`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`i gonna use IE6.0 ...`
`09:08.55`	`nevcairiel`	`Kaelten: ping, i found some weird bug in OneView`
`09:09.14`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: i see throttle info with the word thaddius when i mouse over it`
`09:09.35`	`Kelben`	`and for the mini bosses too`
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`09:09.54`	`cncfanatics`	`yo all`
`09:10.29`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: ?`
`09:11.01`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: I mean how do I use the debugger to do what I orginally asked`
`09:11.01`	`kebinusan`	`spiffy it looks like bleach started the next manga arc`
`09:11.05`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: ah`
`09:11.16`	`kebinusan`	`the animated bleach that is`
`09:11.16`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: You have to route the output to a chatframe that is visible.`
`09:11.42`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: debugging frame and enter the window name?`
`09:11.51`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: ChatFrame1 is the first tab`
`09:11.58`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: ChatFrame2 is the second tab`
`09:12.00`	`vhaarr`	`etc`
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`09:12.25`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`vhaarr ... deleting all wowace cookies and then trying again works, did someone mess with the forum code lately? e.g. update, change in the login code ?`
`09:12.25`	`Kelben`	`set to chatframe1`
`09:12.27`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`shrugs`
`09:12.40`	`vhaarr`	`FtH\|Daemona: I don't know, maybe.`
`09:12.42`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`no matter what i had set login to "forever"`
`09:12.56`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`well anyway killing the cookies worked ok it seems.`
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`09:13.17`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`now i can go and ramble about in the cartographer_herbalism thread ;)`
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`09:13.52`	`Feoron`	`anyone on that can talk code?`
`09:14.04`	`cncfanatics`	`talk code ? u mean write addons ? :p`
`09:14.08`	`Feoron`	`yea`
`09:14.13`	`Kemayo`	`11001001010100110010`
`09:14.23`	`Feoron`	`I'm trying to fix one but this line isn't working`
`09:14.30`	`Feoron`	`think it might have died with 2.0.1`
`09:14.32`	`Feoron`	`local channel,chatnumber = ChatFrameEditBox.chatType`
`09:14.47`	`Antiar1`	`Fisker-: I think I may have just solved the increasing rate while scrolling.`
`09:14.59`	`Fisker-`	`You disabled prat?`
`09:15.08`	`Fisker-`	`:D`
`09:15.14`	`Antiar1`	`>_>`
`09:15.26`	`Antiar1`	`I was actually declaring a new table in my metatable index translator.`
`09:15.27`	`Antiar1`	`cough`
`09:15.28`	`Antiar1`	`So uh`
`09:15.39`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: now what?`
`09:15.40`	`Antiar1`	`Every time I accessed the property of an item, it created a new table.`
`09:15.42`	`Antiar1`	`shame`
`09:15.44`	`Fisker-`	`nice`
`09:15.47`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: now nothing`
`09:16.10`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: lol so what is the point of the debugger?`
`09:16.48`	`CIA-17`	`03antiarc * r24914 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua SanityDisplay.lua SanityItemCache.lua): Sanity2: Corrected stupidity in the item cache that caused ungodly amounts of memory usage while scrolling through the Sanity list. Doh.`
`09:17.01`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: the point is that when you're raiding on sunday, and you're here on IRC, and if something goes wrong, you can provide me with a bit more info than just "some guy says it's not working for him"`
`09:18.39`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: ah, and there isn't way to trick the addon into firing? (simplist way i could think of doing it is I said in raid chat bwtaleft and if everyone has the mod loaded and running a left arrow appears)`
`09:18.44`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`cute, european get 2.0.4 too chuckles and looks at the download`
`09:18.53`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: I've already told you.`
`09:18.57`	`Kelben`	`and i realize that would probably require rewrite the mod etc`
`09:19.17`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: I've told you twice already that it wouldn't help.`
`09:19.19`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24915 10Manufac/Manufac.lua: Manufac: finally got the elusive empty categories bug to reproduce. Fixed for me, let me know if there's still problems.`
`09:19.25`	`vhaarr`	`3 times now`
`09:19.37`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: changing subject - how do you test these mods when your writing them?`
`09:19.44`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: you don't.`
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`09:20.01`	`Kelben`	`you write them and hope they work when you start the boss fight?`
`09:20.03`	`Feoron`	`so no info on ChatFrameEditBox.chatType or where I might be able to find info?`
`09:20.04`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: We use Transcriptor.`
`09:20.15`	`Antiar1`	`Feoron: Did you try wowwiki?`
`09:20.26`	`Feoron`	`Antiar1: yea nothing there`
`09:20.38`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: transcriptor?`
`09:20.44`	`vhaarr`	`http://www.wowace.com/files/Transcriptor/Transcriptor-r24400.zip`
`09:21.09`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`vhaarr did someone supply you some stuff from cosed beta? i should have some subscriptor logs up somewhere on my webspace for Gruuls Lair and Karazhan`
`09:21.19`	`Feoron`	`Antiar1: I'v been googling and playing in wowwikki and wowace all night`
`09:21.19`	`vhaarr`	`FtH\|Daemona: give!`
`09:21.24`	`vhaarr`	`FtH\|Daemona: And no, noone did.`
`09:21.30`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`s/subscriptor/transcriptor`
`09:21.35`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: it logs the fight, you write the mod that triggers on specific combat log message?`
`09:21.42`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`pm me ;)`
`09:21.44`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: basically, yes.`
`09:21.50`	`vhaarr`	`FtH\|Daemona: Are you registered?`
`09:22.33`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone remembers the new syntax for function(...) bla(unpack(arg)); end ? I forgot it and need it now -.-`
`09:22.48`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: so not worth it to have a fake combat log that you can make your own events and see if your mod works correctly?`
`09:23.00`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: for FUCKS sake man`
`09:23.14`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: It won't help.`
`09:23.34`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: You have to be in the fight to test this.`
`09:23.58`	`Lysithea`	`they use the logs to code the fucntions (or whatever) for the real fight, then they need to actually do the ecnounter to see that it match, The logs have nothing to do how the addon works per say`
`09:24.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`heh i just take exact line from transcriptor and just run it through the trigger checking code to make sure it 'should' trigger during the fight, but everything else is basicly writing it without being able to test it`
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`09:25.07`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: ah i guess I meant theres no way a mock fight could occur`
`09:25.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`nope`
`09:25.38`	`Kelben`	`It seems to me a simple idea but I guess there is more to it than that`
`09:26.44`	`Kelben`	`I thought there would be tweaking and testing when your not at the fight and in order to test the mod you'd need some way to trigger it`
`09:26.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`people do different things for testing stuff like triggers but its usually nothing close to a prety mock combatlog`
`09:27.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`lots of coders code without testing and everything works fine`
`09:28.08`	`Kelben`	`nod`
`09:28.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`when you write something you know what its going to do or atleast should do, you dont need to test it to find out`
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`09:29.49`	`CIA-17`	`03jncl * r24916 10Skinner/ (4 files): Skinner: Updated RaidUI to handle new tabs, Battlefield Score Frame, Character Frame`
`09:31.17`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone remembers the new syntax for function(...) bla(unpack(arg)); end ? I forgot it and need it now -.-`
`09:32.36`	`Kelben`	`And the entire idea of making a combatlog injector where you could put in boss events so your raid could pratice movement fights is impossible?`
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`09:33.32`	`Kelben`	`vhaarr: thank you for all your help and sorry for ticking you off ; /`
`09:33.35`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24917 10Manufac/Manufac-Defaults.lua: Manufac: Updated Defaults.`
`09:33.50`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: don't be sorry`
`09:34.05`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: I'm easily ticked off.`
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`09:34.16`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`09:34.24`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`09:34.25`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone remembers the new syntax for function(...) bla(unpack(arg)); end ? I forgot it and need it now -.- come on, someone :p I need it badly`
`09:34.30`	`DocBru`	`@kelben: i actually tried something like that before ;) i created a /combatlog during a fight and than made a lua table of the lines and ran every one of it thru my parser.... it worked at least to test my stuff`
`09:34.32`	`Kelben`	`I was just really hoping for a way to test fights like without taking the repair bill`
`09:34.40`	`nevcairiel`	`yay i fixed the bug in OneView`
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`09:35.27`	`Kelben`	`and it seems like a good idea`
`09:35.59`	`cncfanatics`	`nevcairiel ?`
`09:36.10`	`nevcairiel`	`?`
`09:36.20`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`getting a second nick to link to a nickserv register is annoying ;)`
`09:36.41`	`Kelben`	`@nev if your the oneview/bag/bank author thank you for updating your mod description on wowace for each mod`
`09:36.48`	`nevcairiel`	`nah i am not`
`09:37.15`	`nevcairiel`	`i am only finding bugs, and sometimes even fixing myself`
`09:37.24`	`Adirelle`	`got so lazy I did this : http://www.tagada-team.net/luaescape.php`
`09:37.26`	`cncfanatics`	`what is the new syntax for function name(...) otherfunc(unpack(arg)); end, nevcairiel ?`
`09:37.40`	`DocBru`	`@kelben: i don't have the code anymore unfortunately but it was pretty easy.. just taking every event from the combat log and than have a function which simulated the events... i made this back than to have a chromaggus warning for its magical resistances, but than CTRA had it (while mine was a little better though ;)`
`09:38.00`	`Kelben`	`actually i'd really like one mod to written, with the new major combat potions could it be tracked which are each type?`
`09:38.15`	`vhaarr`	`DocBru: That's EASY. But it's not possible with this mod.`
`09:38.18`	`Adirelle`	`btw I managed to make the numbering wrong :)`
`09:38.20`	`Feoron`	`I could use some help fixing an addon I've been troubleshooting`
`09:38.22`	`Kelben`	`currently you have 10 wsg 10 av 10 ab of each type but they all look identical`
`09:38.33`	`CIA-17`	`03rophy * r24918 10SimpleUnitFrames/ (Core.lua ToTFrame.lua):`
`09:38.33`	`CIA-17`	`SimpleUnitFrames:`
`09:38.33`	`CIA-17`	`- Fix typo.`
`09:38.33`	`CIA-17`	`- mh3completehp will show values in K when over 100000.`
`09:38.49`	`nevcairiel`	`cncfanatics: dunno`
`09:38.50`	`durcyn`	`Kelben: do you have the itemIDs handy?`
`09:38.57`	`vhaarr`	`Some bossmods use more advanced things than just scanning the combat log, and Thaddius is one of them.`
`09:38.59`	`cncfanatics`	`goh -.-`
`09:39.02`	`cncfanatics`	`tnx anyway nev :p`
`09:39.03`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: That's just the way it is.`
`09:39.29`	`durcyn`	`Kelben: because PT/AutoBar would probably do what you're talking about.`
`09:39.49`	`DocBru`	`vhaarr: sure right`
`09:40.01`	`Feoron`	`anyone familure with Advanced Trade Skill Window?`
`09:41.01`	`Kelben`	`@durcyn - auto bar would give them each their own type but how can i tell that orange potion is an AB one instead of an AV one when i'm buying them`
`09:41.50`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: FreeRefills.`
`09:41.53`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`parsing the tooltip? or at least should be different item-ids @ Kelben`
`09:41.55`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24919 10Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.lua: Stitch-1.0: Properly clear queue when the player opens a different profession from the queued items. WTB a better tradeskilling API, PST!`
`09:42.04`	`Kelben`	`31838;0;0;0;0;0;0;0 ?`
`09:42.18`	`Kelben`	`freerefills?`
`09:42.21`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`nymbia wtb no click for crafting multiple items ;)`
`09:42.52`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: http://www.wowace.com/files/FreeRefills/FreeRefills-r24489.zip`
`09:42.58`	`durcyn`	`Kelben: erm, FreeRefills by ItemID then, imnsho`
`09:43.03`	`nymbia`	`FtH\|Daemona: if only :( same rules apply to tradeskills as spells, no casting without a click :(`
`09:43.05`	`durcyn`	`curse thy fingers, rabbit!`
`09:43.07`	`Antiar1`	`So uh.`
`09:43.11`	`Kelben`	`@vhaarr: that would work but it costs honor tokens to buy these and I don't want to waste the wrong type`
`09:43.11`	`Antiar1`	`A mage just one-shotted me.`
`09:43.15`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: FreeRefills + AutoBar.`
`09:43.18`	`Antiar1`	`Frostbolt for 4634.`
`09:43.18`	`Panye`	`kirkburn: got a problem with franco_sans font not taking into effect underscores??`
`09:43.27`	`nymbia`	`Antiar1: clearly outplayed`
`09:43.59`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`yeah less qq more pewpew ;)`
`09:44.02`	`Antiar1`	`POM Frostbolt, no less.`
`09:44.08`	`Antiar1`	`Turned the corner.`
`09:44.11`	`Antiar1`	`Boom, dead.`
`09:44.11`	`durcyn`	`Antiar1: it is the opinion of this court that you staged it with flasks, elixirs, AP+POM, and dual berserker buffs.`
`09:44.17`	`Kelben`	`@vhaarr - I guess what I'm looking for would be a mod that defines item names based on ID`
`09:44.31`	`Antiar1`	`It is the opinion of me that I was FCing in WSG and that mage can bite my rogue ass.`
`09:44.35`	`durcyn`	`Kelben: it sounds like you don't konw what you're looking for`
`09:44.39`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Antiar1 i would assume it was pom -> trinket -> FB though ;)`
`09:44.57`	`Antiar1`	`But still.`
`09:45.02`	`Feoron`	`yea you won't get hit like that from that make for another 5 to 10 minutes`
`09:45.04`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: you're not making sense`
`09:45.14`	`Feoron`	`you'll kill him 5 to 10 times in that period`
`09:45.14`	`Antiar1`	`Once every 5 minutes it all it takes!`
`09:45.21`	`Feoron`	`=)`
`09:45.24`	`Antiar1`	`Rogues don't kill frost mages >:(`
`09:45.28`	`Feoron`	`lol`
`09:45.28`	`nymbia`	`man, back when stuff stacked in big ways, i put together a 5500ish frostbolt with AP + double trink + zerk + AV battlestandard + flask + other buffs. it was intense.`
`09:45.35`	`Kelben`	`@dur - yeah it just occured to me a minute ago as I'm looking at my potions and wondering what type that orange potion is as I have enough WSG tokens but I'm saving AB tokens for an honor item`
`09:45.41`	`durcyn`	`nymbia: i do that every day. I call it soul fire.`
`09:45.51`	`nymbia`	`Antiar1: cloak of shadows :) you'll be able to kill the bad ones (which is most of them)`
`09:46.02`	`Antiar1`	`I can't CoS what I can't see coming!`
`09:46.24`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`cloak of shadows is a lvl66 trainable since last week ;)`
`09:46.25`	`nymbia`	`Antiar1: no excuses, frostbolt has a travel time :D`
`09:46.42`	`Feoron`	`mage stealth will be sick`
`09:46.49`	`Kelben`	`@dur - i turned on a mod that shows item IDs and I can check ID's and make sure I buy the correct potion but was hoping for a more user friendly way to do this`
`09:47.09`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Feoron its a channeled cast... who cares if it takes 6 seconds? ;)`
`09:47.21`	`nymbia`	`mage 'lol plz ignore me while i fade out for the next 8 seconds' stealth :)`
`09:47.24`	`Antiar1`	`I'm going to go cry myself to sleep`
`09:47.26`	`Feoron`	`yea`
`09:47.26`	`Antiar1`	`Night folks :)`
`09:47.28`	`nymbia`	`it'll be fun at the start of arenas, tho`
`09:47.31`	`Fisker-`	`yarr`
`09:47.32`	`Feoron`	`LOL`
`09:47.33`	`nymbia`	`later Antiar1`
`09:47.39`	`Fisker-`	`night Antiar1`
`09:47.48`	`Kelben`	`its actually 5 seconds last I heard and as mage stealth it utterly fails`
`09:47.49`	`Fisker-`	`or`
`09:47.56`	`Fisker-`	`"Good night, my sweet prince ????-2007"`
`09:48.16`	`nymbia`	`lol`
`09:48.23`	`art3mis`	`hrm`
`09:48.37`	`art3mis`	`nym do you know off hand how to enable hoverlink eq compare in the general window?`
`09:49.07`	`art3mis`	`i just dont understand why it works in my tbc cline t but not my live one`
`09:49.19`	`nymbia`	`art3mis: hmm, not sure.`
`09:49.25`	`art3mis`	`err client`
`09:49.44`	`art3mis`	`works in every other tab except General`
`09:50.05`	`nymbia`	`art3mis: weird. may be some other addon interfering..`
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`09:50.38`	`art3mis`	`thats what im thinking, but cant figure out which. i thought it was prat because of the reformatting it does but alas thats not it`
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`09:51.19`	`Kelben`	`@art - turn off mods in binary fashion until you the error goes away`
`09:51.32`	`art3mis`	`laugh`
`09:51.56`	`art3mis`	`damn logical progression ;P`
`09:52.01`	`Kelben`	`fastest way to discover the mod(s) conflicting :P`
`09:52.14`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`sigh`
`09:52.21`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`stupid internet, I think the tubes are broken`
`09:52.24`	`Toadkiller`	`Ok im not getting this click2cast thing. How do I set say shift-buttons?`
`09:52.39`	`Toadkiller`	`or is there a webasite for it?`
`09:52.40`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`and who said prat didn't do anything I didn't ask it to :P`
`09:53.19`	`Kelben`	`@toad is there a reason why my mage food water sometimes summons from auto bar and other times not?`
`09:53.37`	`Kelben`	`its really annoying as the feature seems to come and go :(`
`09:53.38`	`Toadkiller`	`It should summon on right click?`
`09:53.54`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`oh toad, one small bug, dunno if you've heard of it yet`
`09:54.02`	`Kelben`	`@toad - not recently`
`09:54.18`	`Toadkiller`	`kelben: Unless u dont have any watedr at all, then left click should work as well`
`09:54.39`	`Toadkiller`	`I have no mage though so...`
`09:54.40`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Toadkiller: Actually, on my mage I've noticed that if I don't have any food/water/gems the icons dont show up at all..`
`09:54.40`	`Kelben`	`I just summoned water, right clicked the water and I sat down and drank`
`09:54.54`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`toad: I have the dreamlayout option set for my buttons, and the first time I load into game the buttons are missing the shaded background until I open the options once`
`09:55.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`making it rather difficult to summon them via auto-bar :P`
`09:56.16`	`Panye`	`anyone here use Ludwig?? and is it any good?`
`09:57.13`	`Kelben`	`@toad - one small feature I would like to ask about (I don't even know if its possible) but since the patch you can't modify frames in combat therefore if I use a managem autobar doesn't display a timer on my other mana gem nor does it remove the mana gem I just used`
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`09:57.45`	`nymbia`	`Panye: it's pretty good. Tuller writes good addons :)`
`09:58.37`	`durcyn`	`Toadkiller: am I going to have to reset to get bar sizing to behave correctly in r24858? it seems to be stuck at 24 after I moved the gapping down.`
`09:58.44`	`art3mis`	`hehe its either anchors away or chatscroll`
`09:58.45`	`Kelben`	`@toad - would it be possible to add additonal frames in combat or is that a nono too? (thinking in the case of mana gems with each remain mana gem you use, there could be an additonal popup on autobar to show the gem) Just looking for a way to know what I really do have while in combat`
`09:58.54`	`art3mis`	`im gonna guess chatscroll`
`09:58.56`	`art3mis`	`grumble`
`09:59.23`	`art3mis`	`yeah cant mod frames in combat`
`09:59.55`	`art3mis`	`although since the overlay for spells based on mana works`
`10:00.06`	`Kelben`	`@toad - I'd even settle for the ability to use the next highest remain mana gem by clicking on the one that was used after its cooldown expired`
`10:00.19`	`art3mis`	`you could create a blank one that would scan count what you have`
`10:00.35`	`art3mis`	`and makea little display abg for it`
`10:00.39`	`art3mis`	`bag`
`10:00.48`	`art3mis`	`sicne thebag and bag mods work`
`10:00.56`	`art3mis`	`sort like how onebag filters stuff`
`10:01.03`	`art3mis`	`just have one bag filtered and open`
`10:01.05`	`Kelben`	`then its not autobar :(`
`10:01.06`	`art3mis`	`shrug`
`10:01.21`	`art3mis`	`well autobar does counts`
`10:01.24`	`art3mis`	`and updates me`
`10:01.26`	`art3mis`	`them`
`10:01.32`	`Kelben`	`not in combat :(`
`10:01.38`	`art3mis`	`and it does display proper counts if you have the show all enabled`
`10:02.02`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : I was thinking of trying to implement pet food filtering, depending on GetPetFoodTypes(), would you mind I try ?`
`10:02.38`	`Adirelle`	`Nargiddley : is Baggins still on "wait until cleanup" state ?`
`10:02.58`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`Doh, I lost my quest levels, does QuestFu do that?`
`10:03.01`	`art3mis`	`hey nym`
`10:03.04`	`Panye`	`nymbia: thanks Im sold :)`
`10:03.09`	`durcyn`	`Kelben: you can't change buttons or frames or binds in combat in combat ever ever again, ever.`
`10:03.19`	`durcyn`	`Kelben: like, not at all.`
`10:03.22`	`art3mis`	`think you could make an addon that allowed you swap hotkeys based on a button press?`
`10:03.24`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r24920 10AutoBar/AutoBarProfile.lua:`
`10:03.24`	`CIA-17`	`AutoBar:`
`10:03.24`	`CIA-17`	`-Dont disable castSpells if low on mana`
`10:03.34`	`art3mis`	`like say you've got one row of 1-= thats damage spells`
`10:03.40`	`art3mis`	`and one thats healing spells`
`10:03.52`	`art3mis`	`and you've got two buttons that say "heal" and "damage"`
`10:03.59`	`art3mis`	`and you click that button and it swaps em?`
`10:04.04`	`art3mis`	`without having to think much?`
`10:04.06`	`durcyn`	`only way i could see that working is with page swaps`
`10:04.10`	`art3mis`	`yeah`
`10:04.14`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle it has been on my todo list for a long time so go ahead`
`10:04.14`	`art3mis`	`only auto button clicked`
`10:04.25`	`art3mis`	`i havent seen an addon that does it except in mazzle`
`10:04.31`	`art3mis`	`and i think that was custom made`
`10:04.58`	`art3mis`	`that would make my button layout much prettier ;P`
`10:05.06`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`i can upload screenies of what i'm talking about if ya need me too toad`
`10:05.53`	`art3mis`	`<-- the idea guy cuz i learned C on my own and im not all that keen to try at lua after my learn python and make a mud fiasco ;P`
`10:06.11`	`CIA-17`	`03morgalm * r24921 10MorgDKP/ (BidQuery.lua DKPInfo.lua DKPtracker.lua MorgDKP.lua):`
`10:06.11`	`CIA-17`	`MorgDKP:`
`10:06.11`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed nil errors due to bad BC lookup (again)`
`10:06.11`	`CIA-17`	`- other minor errors`
`10:06.49`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller: er... for food types, do you prefer L["Bread"] or L["PET_FOOD_TYPE_BREAD"] ?`
`10:07.12`	`Toadkiller`	`overl: if you like, then i can see if im getting it reproduced`
`10:08.20`	`Kelben`	`@durcyn - little off topic but why did blizzard stop that frame/button change in combat ?`
`10:08.34`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`on a related sidenote WHY does blizz only give options for screenshot type for macs?`
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`10:09.22`	`Toadkiller`	`adirelle, actually all the localization keys are in an intermediate state right now. I used the old bogusly named keys just so I could convert them without errors. I think they all need to be "Lowercase" so that the localization guessing stuff has a chance of working. I never traced the code for that though. Just based on localization stuff I wrote at Adobe`
`10:10.05`	`Toadkiller`	`*guessing based on stuff i did`
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`10:10.19`	`art3mis`	`because irfranview exists for windows ;P`
`10:10.30`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`lol yea :(`
`10:10.31`	`art3mis`	`makes for easy conversion`
`10:10.37`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`gotta do a batch convert every few weeks`
`10:10.48`	`sylvanaar`	`beacuse its the native image format of their 3d rendering engine`
`10:10.59`	`Adirelle`	`note for myself : do an "extract locs strings from that file" php script :)`
`10:11.14`	`art3mis`	`i think hes asking why mac people can pick the format but winders cant`
`10:11.22`	`Kelben`	`I don't suppose the postal author is online?`
`10:11.32`	`sylvanaar`	`dunno, cause can in windows`
`10:11.34`	`Toadkiller`	`kelben: Did you move any buttons around after doing one of the 3 resets on the profile page?`
`10:11.36`	`art3mis`	`in unrelated... what tooltip addon you guys using?`
`10:11.43`	`art3mis`	`im getting kinna sick of aftt`
`10:11.45`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`sylvanaar: you can? never saw an option for it`
`10:12.09`	`sylvanaar`	`you just need to install a handler for it`
`10:12.12`	`Kelben`	`@toad I don't remember resetting auto recently`
`10:12.13`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller: I see. I suppose it means : go with L["Bread"] :)`
`10:12.27`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`err?`
`10:13.02`	`Kelben`	`@toad - I can - but I'm scanning AH for now and honestly I don't like the feature anyhow, looking for a way to stop it if ever came back`
`10:13.22`	`sylvanaar`	`can you click on it and see it in the little preview window in explorer?`
`10:13.41`	`Toadkiller`	`adirelle: Yes. I think I will go with all lower case from now on and switch the remaining ones straight to lowercaqse as I convert them.`
`10:13.49`	`art3mis`	`not in wow you cant`
`10:13.52`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`what does that have to do with being able to take screenshots as something besides tga's in WoW?`
`10:13.53`	`Toadkiller`	`*Er MixedCase that is`
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`10:14.11`	`art3mis`	`talking about it in game, not how to convert em after the fact ;P`
`10:14.17`	`sylvanaar`	`beacuse its the native image format of their 3d rendering engine`
`10:15.13`	`\|Kev\|`	`Antiar1: if I'm getting lots of sanity messages about pairs, or couples, or the like, have I done something wrong?`
`10:15.14`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`and yes`
`10:15.16`	`Toadkiller`	`kelben: The feature is still in the quick hack stage. Once I am done with it there would be a drop down on the slot edit page so you can choose to disable it if you want`
`10:15.44`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`Synvanaar: In the Mac WoW Client there is an option to save screenshots as other things besides TGA, my question was why is there not an option for this in the WIndows Client`
`10:16.18`	`Kelben`	`with TBC are my mods going to die again? or is the current 2.0.4 format the same as TBC`
`10:16.29`	`Toadkiller`	`overl: probably a licensing issue`
`10:16.31`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : btw, how often are AutoBar_ScanBags and AutoBar_BuildItemList called ?`
`10:16.40`	`Gngsk`	`Kelben, death to all mods.`
`10:17.04`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`Toadkiller: well I mean it's not like they dont have a DLL named Intel JPEG library in the same folder . . .`
`10:17.09`	`Kelben`	`wowace died painfully for a week with the 2.0 patch :P`
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`10:17.48`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`and here's that border problem I was talking about: http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1122/borderspq5.jpg`
`10:18.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Kelben: there'll be no major UI changes for the BC release, that already happened with 2.0`
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`10:18.19`	`Kelben`	`@nighthawkthesane - thats what I thought`
`10:18.33`	`Kelben`	`just good to hear someone else say it`
`10:18.50`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`OvrLrd-Q: it wouldn't surprise me if the ease of outputting other formats on macs was due to hooking into CoreImage or similar, not sure how possible/easy that works on windows`
`10:19.08`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`no clue on mac internals so :)`
`10:19.34`	`art3mis`	`OvrLrd-Q: how is that a problem?`
`10:19.40`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`hurm?`
`10:19.43`	`art3mis`	`it's just the "spacing" setting in autobar`
`10:20.00`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`compare the 2 screenshots, the black 'background' is present in one and not the other`
`10:20.08`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`that's what i was referring to`
`10:20.12`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`not the spacing`
`10:20.16`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: builditemlist is only with a config change or on startup. Scanbags is whenever a bag update is detected, so BAG UPDATE & REGEN DIS / ENABLED`
`10:20.23`	`art3mis`	`oh the beveled edge`
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`10:21.04`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller: oki, would you mind if I try to throw in some table recycling code to reduce memory usage ?`
`10:21.30`	`syeren`	`Downloading Update: 5%...`
`10:21.32`	`syeren`	`Awesome.`
`10:21.37`	`Toadkiller`	`adirelle: lol if you like. DO you mean compost?`
`10:21.45`	`Adirelle`	`no, Compost is useless now`
`10:21.55`	`Kelben`	`This is way out on a limb here but Choker of Enlightenment - what was it before it was nerfed?`
`10:22.02`	`Adirelle`	`I mean adding some file-local table and clearing them`
`10:22.36`	`Adirelle`	`So we reused the same table again and again`
`10:22.50`	`Adirelle`	`instead of throwing out the old one to GC and creating a new`
`10:23.27`	`Toadkiller`	`Ah ok. Yeah thats no problem. I noticed some ugly waste in the scanning code for example. I've been putting off rewriting that for a while now. (Its the only mostly untouched code left from when Saien did AutoBar)`
`10:23.45`	`Adirelle`	`typical change : "function x() local t = {}; do_stuff_with(t) end" becomes something like : "local t = {} function x() erase(t); do_stuff_with(t) end"`
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`10:24.19`	`Toadkiller`	`Say is erase new in lua 5.1?`
`10:24.29`	`Adirelle`	`not, it will be a local function :)`
`10:24.43`	`Adirelle`	`function erase(t) for k in pairs(t) do t[k] = nil end end`
`10:25.32`	`Toadkiller`	`I used to recycle but the getn from the previous lua barfed so I abandoned it in disgust after a while`
`10:26.11`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: with a working maxn its a good idea again`
`10:26.25`	`Adirelle`	`well... pairs(t) works with every kind of table`
`10:28.16`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: sure does, but if u needed to know the last index then an erased table used to lie to u (with the pre 2.0 lua blizz was using`
`10:29.26`	`Adirelle`	`er... why ? "or k in pairs(t)" will just give me all table indexes`
`10:30.04`	`Adirelle`	`and it is not affected by erasing inside the loop`
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`10:30.24`	`Deviad`	`Hello`
`10:30.29`	`Adirelle`	`if the table is indexed by number, it will returning me all indexes, even if there is gaps`
`10:30.32`	`Deviad`	`Has anyone got The burning crusade's box?`
`10:30.46`	`Adirelle`	`and same for string-keyed tables`
`10:31.19`	`Nargiddley`	`Adirelle, getn used to work alot differently`
`10:31.27`	`Adirelle`	`yeah, i now`
`10:31.30`	`Adirelle`	`s/now/know/`
`10:31.52`	`Adirelle`	`that's why pairs is better for this job, it will work in any case`
`10:31.53`	`Deviad`	`mmmm`
`10:31.55`	`Deviad`	`cool`
`10:31.55`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: What I am talking about is irrelevant to what you are doing. I am saying that in the before time, in the long long ago, when people were using patch 1.12 or something, if u erased a table then getn would no longer give you a real count. getn is no deprecated & replaced with maxn which has no such stupidity.`
`10:32.06`	`Nargiddley`	`using it after the erase would be wrong tho`
`10:32.12`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller: oki`
`10:32.29`	`art3mis`	`so.... what tooltip addon are you guys using?`
`10:32.38`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller: that's why I saw some alternate code`
`10:32.44`	`Deviad`	`art3mis, tinytip or something`
`10:33.15`	`Deviad`	`I'm thinking to make an ISO and a torrent of burning crusade as soon as I get my hands on one`
`10:33.15`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: mmm thot i erased it all but some may have survived`
`10:33.30`	`art3mis`	`there will be dev ;P`
`10:33.36`	`Deviad`	`I know many people will get the code on the 16th but will get the game later`
`10:33.42`	`art3mis`	`you shouldnt have to wait more than 2 hours on most good torrent sites`
`10:33.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`10:33.55`	`Deviad`	`hehe`
`10:34.00`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller: some peoples are using table.remove on numerically indexed table so it reset .getn and .maxn properly`
`10:34.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`the size difference between beta and live is 2.2gb`
`10:34.24`	`Adirelle`	`er... at least .gent`
`10:34.30`	`Adirelle`	`s/gent/getn/`
`10:34.38`	`Adirelle`	`(which is #table now by the way)`
`10:34.44`	`Deviad`	`art3mis, I asked to the shop to send me the box first because I had to pay for the shipment even if I chosed not the get the box shipped, and second because if you don't own the box someone could claim the account to be of his :\`
`10:34.59`	`Deviad`	`Arrowmaster, that means that live is about 4 GB`
`10:35.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah it is`
`10:35.28`	`art3mis`	`im wondering if ill be able to use my beta client when it goes live ;P`
`10:35.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`my data dir is 4.43gb`
`10:35.40`	`art3mis`	`cuz thatll save me a buncha hassle`
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`10:36.14`	`Adirelle`	`well, looks like some table need a less brute code than I thought :)*`
`10:36.19`	`Deviad`	`Arrowmaster, do you work at blizzard maybe?`
`10:36.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`no`
`10:36.29`	`Adirelle`	`(in Autobar code I mean)`
`10:36.30`	`Deviad`	`how do you have live then?`
`10:36.33`	`Deviad`	`do you work for some press?`
`10:36.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`current live`
`10:36.47`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: techically the issue was that getn was calculated until setn was used at which point the magical attribute "n" determined table size. Or something like that. Very hacky.`
`10:36.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`not tbc live`
`10:37.17`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : I know, that's why I never relied on this`
`10:37.42`	`Deviad`	`Does anyone know when you will buzz Cryolysis' author to upload his mod on wowace svn?`
`10:37.53`	`Deviad`	`Cos he's using ace2 as the base library`
`10:38.09`	`Deviad`	`so common sense would think that he should upload his mod here :P`
`10:38.13`	`DocBru`	`i am also using ace2 but didnt get SVN access yet :-(`
`10:38.19`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: ok so for the filtering, you are going to enable various food categories in a slot based on the pets food tastes?`
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`10:39.57`	`Deviad`	`Btw, I guess that you should start thinking of making a network of mirrors for when the burning crusade is released`
`10:40.18`	`Deviad`	`as many player will get back playing and probably many users haven't upgraded to the latest versions...`
`10:40.25`	`DocBru`	`well it's a little late to think about that now ;)`
`10:40.44`	`Deviad`	`Well, setting up a mirror as far as I saw is not so tricky in the end`
`10:40.48`	`Toadkiller`	`I dunno, still got 3 days...`
`10:41.12`	`Deviad`	`That's why I'm saying it now :D`
`10:41.21`	`Deviad`	`what happened with 2.0.3 was horrible :\`
`10:41.23`	`Toadkiller`	`THeres no tbc patch tho is there?`
`10:41.40`	`Deviad`	`well as far as they said 2.0.3 was "the patch"`
`10:41.50`	`Deviad`	`after you install tbc you have to reinstall 2.0.3`
`10:41.56`	`Toadkiller`	`k`
`10:41.59`	`Deviad`	`you get installed*`
`10:42.56`	`Deviad`	`but I would not be surprised if the release date of tbc would coincide with another update`
`10:43.16`	`nevcairiel`	`2.0.5 is somewhere out there`
`10:43.25`	`Deviad`	`^^`
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`10:44.05`	`Deviad`	`and I guess we will have lots of minor updates on the way for at least a couple of weeks`
`10:44.14`	`Deviad`	`as many more people will play the game and find out bugs`
`10:44.54`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller: in fact properly reducing memory usage will require a compost-like stub, i'll rip one of the ace library`
`10:46.10`	`Deviad`	`I'm getting back to study functional dependencies on databases...`
`10:46.12`	`Deviad`	`see ya later`
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`10:48.27`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: would not reusing the exact same tables be a better solution?`
`10:48.47`	`Adirelle`	`well... the code uses at lots of "maxn"`
`10:48.55`	`Adirelle`	`and recycling will mess it up I guess`
`10:49.34`	`Adirelle`	`unless someone's willing to rewrite all code involving those tables`
`10:51.17`	`art3mis`	`hrm the wowace updater needs a "sort by author" button`
`10:51.57`	`Toadkiller`	`I am planning to as soon as I get a decent release version. Which would be after I get popup menus with shift key done as well as fixing a couple of bugs with the combat updating`
`10:52.48`	`Toadkiller`	`adirelle: btw are you talking about the scanbag code?`
`10:52.57`	`Adirelle`	`toadkiller: not only`
`10:53.01`	`\|Kev\|`	`art3mis: there's no author field on the page`
`10:53.02`	`Adirelle`	`lost of things depends on it`
`10:53.13`	`art3mis`	`exactly ;P`
`10:53.23`	`art3mis`	`but most of the addons list (authorname)`
`10:53.28`	`art3mis`	`so..........`
`10:53.36`	`Adirelle`	`for exemple, looks at AutoBar_GetTexture : id = id[table.maxn(id)]`
`10:53.43`	`Toadkiller`	`adirelle: yeah thats why im leaving it till after I get a stable version`
`10:53.51`	`Adirelle`	`this will be totally fucked up if we start to erase tables`
`10:54.19`	`art3mis`	`i would also REALLY appreciate it if someone could make me an addon that does key-page swaps by having configureable buttons.`
`10:54.20`	`Toadkiller`	`maxn shouldnt care about erasing as far as i know`
`10:54.23`	`Adirelle`	`at least I won't bet my head on it working fine`
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`10:54.44`	`Adirelle`	`yeah, right, it also do a full scanning of the table :s`
`10:54.49`	`Adirelle`	`s/do/does/`
`10:55.01`	`Deviad`	`art3mis, is there any way to bind the buttons which are present in bartender3 to the keyboard keys?`
`10:55.09`	`kebinusan`	`hmm I found a big with mrplow`
`10:55.25`	`kebinusan`	`Its not respecting shard bags`
`10:55.30`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: Yeah pretty much any function that looks like _ is slated for a rewrite`
`10:55.43`	`kebinusan`	`when I plow my inventory it takes all my shards out of my shard bag and adds them to my normal bags`
`10:55.47`	`Deviad`	`Or is there anyway to get right click looping the action of the pressed button?`
`10:55.59`	`Deviad`	`for example shoot frostbolt`
`10:56.07`	`Adirelle`	`I'll let you to this then, I don't know the code enough to not break thing if I try`
`10:56.09`	`Deviad`	`I have to keep on clicking frostbolt every time`
`10:56.15`	`Adirelle`	`s/to not/not to/`
`10:56.47`	`Toadkiller`	`Deviad have you looked at the blizz ui forum post on macros?`
`10:56.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Deviad: one click = one action is not something you'll really be able to get around.. unless i misunderstand you`
`10:57.34`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone can help me with AceEvent ? is there a way to Unregister one method of an event, instead of all of them (default behaviour) ?`
`10:57.40`	`art3mis`	`not that ive seen that would allow me to say make 2 buttons and put em wherever i want and then click button 1 to have keypage1 show and click buttont 2 to have keypage2 show`
`10:57.53`	`Deviad`	`1) when you replace blizzard ui with bartender3 you can't use the keys 1,2,3,4,5 to do the actions on the bar`
`10:57.53`	`Toadkiller`	`Deviad: there is a /castsequence spell1; spell2; spell3 etc. macro that does cycling`
`10:58.00`	`art3mis`	`that way i could easily swapbetwee shadow and healer mods`
`10:58.12`	`art3mis`	`yes you can`
`10:58.24`	`art3mis`	`thats the only way i play`
`10:58.29`	`Deviad`	`2) I'd like to get on right click the action, corresponding the button I have pressed, looped`
`10:58.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Deviad: yeah, you should be able to bind keys to your bt3 buttons`
`10:58.41`	`Deviad`	`NightHawkTheSane, how?`
`10:58.55`	`cncfanatics`	`Fubar menu`
`10:59.04`	`art3mis`	`just get clique`
`10:59.09`	`art3mis`	`;)`
`10:59.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I dont know, as I don't use BT3, you'd have to ask someone else :)`
`10:59.21`	`Deviad`	`let me login I'll check`
`10:59.38`	`art3mis`	`bt allows you to use the numbers as keybindings`
`10:59.46`	`art3mis`	`well technically blizzard does`
`10:59.47`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller: just understood how AutoBar_BuildItemList works, that's pretty scary :)`
`10:59.53`	`art3mis`	`just mod them in the keybindings interface`
`11:00.03`	`CIA-17`	`03fatherjim * r24922 10loudmouth/ (loudmouth.lua loudmouth.xml):`
`11:00.03`	`CIA-17`	`loudmouth:`
`11:00.04`	`CIA-17`	`- Help2 pane dynamically generated.`
`11:00.04`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: Yeah now is not the time to add new bugs to the code but if you can get the pet filtering working in a branch it should be fairly mergeable`
`11:00.12`	`Deviad`	`Is login working?`
`11:00.23`	`art3mis`	`on live?`
`11:00.25`	`art3mis`	`yeah`
`11:00.33`	`Deviad`	`cool, there's 1 more update`
`11:00.35`	`Deviad`	`O_o`
`11:00.51`	`Deviad`	`Downloading update 1%`
`11:00.52`	`art3mis`	`yeah thats to fix the little bug of the beta client being able to connect to the live server ;P`
`11:01.01`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: hehe yeah & the obscureness & lack of comments greatly aids understanding doesn't it ;-p`
`11:01.03`	`Deviad`	`damn`
`11:01.06`	`syeren`	`Does anyone code Css here?`
`11:01.12`	`Deviad`	`they didn't have to spread the voice so everyone could play with beta`
`11:01.13`	`Deviad`	`uff`
`11:01.14`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller: right`
`11:01.20`	`Deviad`	`:P`
`11:01.33`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : this thing needs a good clean up`
`11:01.39`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: each time I look at that stuff I have the urge to rewrite it`
`11:01.43`	`Adirelle`	`lol`
`11:01.49`	`Adirelle`	`I pretty much understand`
`11:02.03`	`Adirelle`	`that's quite cumbersome`
`11:02.17`	`syeren`	`So I guess no one codes css here :P`
`11:02.38`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: heh, ive actually simplified it a touch from what it used to be but still its an ungodly peice of code`
`11:02.39`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`syeren: yeah, i know some, whats up/`
`11:02.40`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`?`
`11:02.57`	`Adirelle`	`lots of function and variables need to be done either locals or attributes/methods`
`11:03.31`	`syeren`	`What's wrong with this, my page is just ignoring it :(`
`11:03.31`	`syeren`	`head {font-family: Aerial;`
`11:03.32`	`syeren`	`font-weight: bold;`
`11:03.32`	`syeren`	`font-size: 8px;`
`11:03.32`	`syeren`	`font-color: #ffffff;}`
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`11:03.50`	`Toadkiller`	`THe whole mod used to be in one file with no encapsulation whatsoever`
`11:04.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`... the head tag doesnt typically display any text, so it wouldn't affect anything.`
`11:04.07`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24923 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua: PeriodicTable-3.0: ItemSearch should no longer return any false positives.`
`11:04.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`what are you trying to do with that?`
`11:04.14`	`syeren`	`Make a font style.`
`11:04.20`	`syeren`	`I'm kind of new to Css :p`
`11:04.24`	`Adirelle`	`i know`
`11:04.27`	`Nargiddley`	`and do you mean Arial as the font ?`
`11:04.31`	`syeren`	`Yes :p`
`11:04.42`	`syeren`	`I want the whole span to be effected by those criteria.`
`11:04.44`	`Adirelle`	`well... where the hell should I put my "check pet type" hook ? :D`
`11:05.09`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24924 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Fixed bad formatting on Lockboxes set.`
`11:05.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`syern, easiest way is to make a class, like ".myFontStyle { font-family: Ariel; } and just give the tags you want to have that font that class..`
`11:05.20`	`sbu_`	`morning`
`11:05.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`like <span class="myFontStyle">some text</spam>`
`11:05.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`er.. </span>`
`11:05.47`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`But putting that in the HEAD tag wont do anything, as head doesn't display text. :P`
`11:05.57`	`cncfanatics`	`body would help more idd ^^`
`11:08.06`	`syeren`	`No, I am calling the font class head :p`
`11:08.12`	`syeren`	`As that font is displayed at the head of the page.`
`11:08.13`	`syeren`	`.head {font-family: tahoma; font-weight: bold; font-size: 8px; font-color: #ffffff}`
`11:08.21`	`syeren`	`I edited it to, but didn't work, I will try rename it again!`
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`11:08.45`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ahh, well in your first copy/paste you had just "head" so i thought you were trying to apply it to the <head> tag. :P`
`11:09.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`it's probably best to rename it something other than .head, anyway, just to avoid confusion :P`
`11:09.41`	`syeren`	`Wheeee.`
`11:09.43`	`syeren`	`Progress.`
`11:09.49`	`syeren`	`Now All I have to do work out divs.`
`11:09.53`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : it looks like "pet food filtering" will be a kick hack... I won't ever trying to do anything else`
`11:09.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`:)`
`11:10.29`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone very familiar with AceEvent around ?`
`11:10.31`	`cncfanatics`	`need help :(`
`11:10.47`	`syeren`	`#header {color:#000000;`
`11:10.49`	`syeren`	`cellpadding: 3;`
`11:10.50`	`syeren`	`cellspacing: 0;`
`11:10.53`	`syeren`	`width: 1000px;`
`11:10.54`	`syeren`	`height: 15px;`
`11:10.56`	`syeren`	`margin-left: 5px;}`
`11:11.03`	`syeren`	`Any idea why that isn't working?`
`11:11.26`	`syeren`	`I tired bgcolor:bekfbpwsb`
`11:11.34`	`dudevon`	`* Fixed a bug where flags in Arathi Basin could be captured at extremely long distances.`
`11:11.34`	`dudevon`	`* Fixed a bug where players who had set dungeons to Heroic difficulty level previous to patch 2.0.3 could no longer enter instances.`
`11:11.34`	`dudevon`	`* Fixed a bug that was causing multiple LUA errors in the German and French battlegrounds.`
`11:11.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`well which part isn't working?`
`11:11.39`	`cncfanatics`	`#header ? shouldn't it be .header ?`
`11:11.49`	`dudevon`	`cellpadding. no such style`
`11:11.58`	`dudevon`	`padding-top, padding-bottom, etc.`
`11:12.05`	`dudevon`	`same with cellspacing`
`11:12.15`	`syeren`	`Ah :P`
`11:12.16`	`renchap`	`or padding:`
`11:12.20`	`dudevon`	`use, margin-top, margin-bottom, etc.`
`11:12.25`	`syeren`	`Awesome :P`
`11:12.32`	`syeren`	`These tutorials fail to mention such things.`
`11:12.38`	`syeren`	`How do I change the BG color of the Div?`
`11:13.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`background-color I believe`
`11:13.19`	`dudevon`	`background-color: #000000;`
`11:13.19`	`haste`	`syeren: background-color, you can also use background`
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`11:13.25`	`Dhraga`	`morning`
`11:13.43`	`dudevon`	`print that out, http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/css_cheat_sheet.png - keep it on your desk :D`
`11:14.04`	`haste`	`syeren: http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_reference.asp << might help you`
`11:14.12`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I'm also a fan of http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/`
`11:14.25`	`dudevon`	`sorry for the patch spam btw`
`11:14.42`	`syeren`	`.header {background:#000000;`
`11:14.43`	`syeren`	`width: 1000px;`
`11:14.43`	`syeren`	`height: 15px;`
`11:14.43`	`syeren`	`margin-left: 5px;}`
`11:14.48`	`syeren`	`Is my current header box.`
`11:14.52`	`syeren`	`Still not calling it though :(`
`11:15.04`	`syeren`	`<div id="header"><span class="main">`
`11:15.15`	`cncfanatics`	`<div class="header"> ...`
`11:15.18`	`haste`	`syeren: .header = class`
`11:15.18`	`snirks`	`is eu WoW sloppy as hell?`
`11:15.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`you need to use class="header"`
`11:15.19`	`renchap`	`if you use id="header", must be #header`
`11:15.28`	`syeren`	`Okay :P`
`11:15.31`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: Its actually probably not worth doing untill I finish doing Named slots which would allow stuff like the pet filtering, basic crafting (if I can ever get over the stupid crafting API), & similar custom code`
`11:15.34`	`syeren`	`snirks, I can't log in at all.`
`11:15.38`	`syeren`	`To get the patch.`
`11:15.44`	`renchap`	`use id for unique elements, class for multiple elements`
`11:15.47`	`syeren`	`But my account got hacked yesterday, so can't log in either way ;p`
`11:15.48`	`snirks`	`syeren: ok`
`11:16.04`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : I'm ending up to the same conclusion...`
`11:16.09`	`snirks`	`downloading the patch-downloader takes 200000 hours. normally it takes a few secs`
`11:16.25`	`renchap`	`snirks: thats the entire patch, not a downloader`
`11:16.29`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : plus it would require rebuilding itemlist each time the pet changes`
`11:16.32`	`snirks`	`ah`
`11:17.07`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: yeah & hunters have a slow time of it already`
`11:17.26`	`Toadkiller`	`I need to ebay a hunter so I can test stuff myself`
`11:17.36`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : don't understand 'have a slow time of it' (i'm french)`
`11:17.46`	`Adirelle`	`lol`
`11:18.03`	`Toadkiller`	`Hehe the joys of living in Europe I guess`
`11:18.47`	`Adirelle`	`~x en fr they have a slow time of it`
`11:18.56`	`Toadkiller`	`We send people like you to Hawaii or Porto Rico`
`11:19.08`	`Adirelle`	`???`
`11:19.17`	`Toadkiller`	`SLow island time`
`11:19.23`	`Adirelle`	`purl, bad boy !`
`11:19.29`	`purl`	`Bad boy !, bad! No cookie for you!`
`11:19.36`	`snirks`	`04:05 <snirks> i'd use bongos if i were you, and live with having to update it manually`
`11:19.39`	`snirks`	`04:05 <snirks> it performs better on my computer than bt3`
`11:19.40`	`snirks`	`shit sorry`
`11:19.42`	`snirks`	`04:06 <snirks> bt3 lags me when changing pages`
`11:19.45`	`snirks`	`04:06 <snirks> bongos does not`
`11:19.46`	`Adirelle`	`~x en fr they have a slow time of it`
`11:19.47`	`snirks`	`04:06 <snirks> and bongos have the snapping`
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`11:19.57`	`snirks`	`"This week I am excited to have CKKnight as our author spotlight."`
`11:20.06`	`snirks`	`bouvi ui maillist`
`11:20.16`	`snirks`	`let's see what ckknight has to say`
`11:20.17`	`sbu`	`ohhnoo`
`11:20.26`	`sbu`	`farsight bug worked in arathi`
`11:20.34`	`sbu`	`would have been 1000000 honorpoints ;p`
`11:20.37`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : I'm sorry, I don't get it`
`11:21.12`	`Toadkiller`	`Ah, well unlike the rest of AMerica, in Hawaii people take it easy, no rush rush all the time`
`11:21.20`	`Adirelle`	`oki`
`11:21.35`	`Toadkiller`	`Nice climate too`
`11:21.43`	`Adirelle`	`that's may be linked :)`
`11:21.57`	`Toadkiller`	`Yeah its too damn hot to reun around`
`11:22.22`	`Fisker-`	`sooo`
`11:22.30`	`Fisker-`	`i got an addon which automatically sells all grey items`
`11:22.31`	`Fisker-`	`which? :P`
`11:22.50`	`Toadkiller`	`Like AUtomaton?`
`11:23.10`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : something woudl be usefull for you : AceEvent has a ScheduleLeaveCombatAction method ;)`
`11:23.10`	`Fisker-`	`QQ`
`11:23.16`	`kenlyric\|home`	`if you think americans rush rush all the time you need to get out of New York and LA. ;)`
`11:23.22`	`Fisker-`	`I got a pitchfork which is grey`
`11:23.27`	`cncfanatics`	`Adirelle, could you help me a sec with AceEvent too ? :p`
`11:23.28`	`Fisker-`	`but i don't want to sell it :(`
`11:24.22`	`Toadkiller`	`Not many Americans live outside of California & the east coast tho...`
`11:24.47`	`Toadkiller`	`Montana has like what 50 people?`
`11:24.48`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Toadkiller... lol. you must be right. Completely barren wasteland between the coasts...`
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`11:25.09`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`lol`
`11:25.28`	`Adirelle`	`cncfanatics: can try, but I'm mainly got my knownledge from code and wiki`
`11:25.34`	`Toadkiller`	`53 if u count the 2 senators & 1 congressman`
`11:26.06`	`Adirelle`	`Toadkiller : are you aware that the popup on shift doesn't work properly ? (if yes, nvm)`
`11:26.19`	`Toadkiller`	`Rememeber: Green Corn is not people!`
`11:26.22`	`packetlss`	`oCB and oCD don't exist anymore?`
`11:26.27`	`cncfanatics`	`its about UnregisterEvent, I need to Unregister one of the methods registered on it, but not all of the`
`11:26.29`	`cncfanatics`	`them*`
`11:27.05`	`cncfanatics`	`I do this: RegisterEvent("UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP", "SpellCast_End"); now I need to only unregister the SpellCast_End method and not all the other ones`
`11:27.41`	`cncfanatics`	`is that even possible ? -.-`
`11:28.04`	`Adirelle`	`do you have more than one method registered on UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP ?`
`11:28.08`	`CIA-17`	`03moonsorrow * r24926 10GotWood/GotWood.toc:`
`11:28.08`	`CIA-17`	`GotWood:`
`11:28.08`	`CIA-17`	`- updated toc to 20003`
`11:28.22`	`cncfanatics`	`yea`
`11:28.56`	`snirks`	`shiny dinglehopper`
`11:29.06`	`kenlyric\|home`	`of the 10 most populated states in the US, three of them are on the east coast (NY, Penn, NJ), ONe is California, and the rest are in the Outlands.`
`11:29.11`	`kenlyric\|home`	`The More You Know (tm)`
`11:29.40`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`Toadkiller: chance to look at the bevel problem I was talking about earlier or was my interweb dead?`
`11:30.06`	`Toadkiller`	`Adirelle: yeah the freaking shift thing has consumed a lot of my time so far. Hopefully I will fix it this weekend`
`11:30.45`	`cncfanatics`	`got an idea Adirelle ?`
`11:30.56`	`Toadkiller`	`overl: Blizzard code is resurecting the bevels for some reason. I need to figure out if there is a better way to get rid of them.`
`11:30.58`	`Adirelle`	`cncfanatics: do you have more than one method registered on UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP ?`
`11:31.06`	`cncfanatics`	`yea, a few`
`11:31.12`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`Toadkiller: ah`
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`11:31.21`	`cncfanatics`	`and all on different conditions, so kinda can't just reregister them after the unregister`
`11:31.56`	`Toadkiller`	`overl: Well, I can get rid of them, but then there is no click feedback, so I need to provide some`
`11:31.58`	`Fisker-`	`haha`
`11:32.02`	`Fisker-`	`mega epic fail @ gotwood`
`11:32.03`	`Nayon`	`Is there a way to Transfer all the mapnotes I made in beta using Cartographer to live side Cartographer? Like the WTF saved variables?`
`11:32.24`	`Adirelle`	`cncfanatics: er`
`11:32.25`	`Toadkiller`	`yeah like cut & paste the wtf file...`
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`11:32.35`	`Nayon`	`thats it nothing else?`
`11:32.36`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`I thought the little darkend bg's were supposed to be there :D`
`11:32.44`	`Fisker-`	`Nayon like BLOOD ELF notes eh?`
`11:32.50`	`cncfanatics`	`Adirelle: you don't know either ? :(`
`11:33.14`	`Adirelle`	`cncfanatics : well`
`11:33.16`	`Nayon`	`more like documentation of everything in Helfire Peninsula and half of Zangmarsh for easy refrence when leveling again`
`11:33.23`	`FtH\|eagle`	`Fisker-: mega epic fail?`
`11:33.29`	`Toadkiller`	`NAyon: starting fresh is good too as it is likely they moved things around for balance perhaps?`
`11:33.36`	`Adirelle`	`cncfanactics : AceEvent can only register one handler at a time for a given event`
`11:33.46`	`Fisker-`	`nevermind FtH\|eagle :P`
`11:33.47`	`Adirelle`	`cncfanactics : (for the same addon I mean)`
`11:33.57`	`Fisker-`	`forgot that this patch doesn't need a toc increment`
`11:34.00`	`Fisker-`	`:P`
`11:34.08`	`FtH\|eagle`	`ah alright`
`11:34.12`	`FtH\|eagle`	`:)`
`11:34.19`	`Adirelle`	`cncfanactics : so you can do self:UnregisterEvent('UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP')`
`11:34.39`	`Adirelle`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:34.41`	`Nayon`	`Toadkiller: True but don't you think they would have moved most of the vendors to the correct locations before the release day?`
`11:34.55`	`cncfanatics`	`I can't Adirelle, its the same addon having it registered multiple times for multiple methods`
`11:35.11`	`Adirelle`	`cncfanatics: and it works ?`
`11:35.18`	`cncfanatics`	`why wouldn't it ? :p`
`11:35.36`	`cncfanatics`	`only ever happened once that I had multiple at once but seemed to work fine`
`11:35.51`	`Toadkiller`	`NAyon: exactly, so why try hard to convert data that may be incorrect?`
`11:35.56`	`Adirelle`	`cncfanatics : acevent does this : AceEvent_registry[event][self] = method`
`11:36.03`	`Adirelle`	`event is the event name, self if the addon table`
`11:36.29`	`cncfanatics`	`bleh, crap`
`11:36.32`	`Nayon`	`Toadkiller: Thats why I mapped it all out last day of Beta because everything should have been kosher on their part by then.`
`11:36.42`	`cncfanatics`	`better make sure I don't register multiple at once :/`
`11:36.53`	`cncfanatics`	`or use multiple instances of AceEvent maybe ?`
`11:36.55`	`Toadkiller`	`well in that case jsut cut & paste it`
`11:37.05`	`Nayon`	`lol`
`11:37.06`	`Adirelle`	`not AceEvent, addon events`
`11:37.18`	`Adirelle`	`as you should embed AceEvent into your addon`
`11:37.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Nayon: think you can toss that online some where? :D also.. horde or alliance? :P`
`11:37.28`	`Nayon`	`Alliance`
`11:37.32`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ooh :)`
`11:37.48`	`Nayon`	`Sorry horde Priest is only 27 atm`
`11:37.58`	`syeren`	`Nighthawk, how do I make 3 columns?`
`11:38.13`	`syeren`	`With Divs :P`
`11:38.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hehe`
`11:38.26`	`syeren`	`With #elements?`
`11:38.32`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ahh, you use float on your left/riight divs`
`11:38.36`	`cncfanatics`	`Adirelle, actualy its a class inheriting AceEvent, not an addon`
`11:38.46`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`then set the left/right margin on your center div appropriately`
`11:38.48`	`cncfanatics`	`it inherits AceEvent together with some other mixin`
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`11:38.51`	`cncfanatics`	`mixins`
`11:38.52`	`Adirelle`	`cncfanatics: inheriting or mixin in ?`
`11:38.56`	`Adirelle`	`mxiins right`
`11:39.04`	`cncfanatics`	`mixing in`
`11:39.39`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`so like #rightCol { float: right; width: 100px } #centerCol { margin-right: 100px }`
`11:40.02`	`Adirelle`	`that's mean that "MyObject:RegisterEvent('XXX', 'YYY')" leads to " AceEvent_registry['XXX'][MyObject] = 'YYY' "`
`11:40.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`you might also want to google three-column css layouts, because they can be a bit tricky`
`11:40.24`	`Adirelle`	`s/'s mean/means/`
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`11:40.45`	`kenlyric\|home`	`seems a good addition would be the ability to turn off minimap icons for certain cartographer modules. My minimap seems to get overloaded, and really I don't need to see them all on the minimap.`
`11:40.47`	`cncfanatics`	`Adirelle, bleh, I'm gonna need to have multiple instances of AceEvent then, or can MyObject be overriden ?`
`11:40.52`	`Adirelle`	`you do and should not use AceEvent lib directly`
`11:41.35`	`Adirelle`	`tbh, you should envisage something like using flags to enable processing ?`
`11:41.39`	`cncfanatics`	`why not ? very usefull to me, each object is a different action button, so it allows each button to work on its own`
`11:41.43`	`Adirelle`	`or you're using function ?`
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`11:41.50`	`cncfanatics`	`wait, I'll commit my code :p`
`11:41.50`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`syeren: also, check out this article, which discusses three-column layouts http://alistapart.com/articles/holygrail`
`11:41.51`	`cncfanatics`	`more usefull`
`11:42.04`	`syeren`	`I did, but it isn't very clear.`
`11:42.10`	`Adirelle`	`cncfanatics : how many buttons will there be ?`
`11:42.23`	`syeren`	`Giving someone a bunch of code who doesn't even understand what all of it defines doesn't help me much :)`
`11:42.23`	`cncfanatics`	`there is no hard limit`
`11:42.38`	`cncfanatics`	`so, if a user wants he can have an unlimited amount of them :p`
`11:42.48`	`syeren`	`I just want a 1000px table with four 250 columns :P`
`11:42.59`	`axxo`	`eeek`
`11:43.19`	`Fisker-`	`is there some kind of auto-block trade in Automaton?`
`11:43.35`	`cncfanatics`	`thats in the default UI Fisker-`
`11:44.04`	`syeren`	`AND I DID IT!`
`11:44.12`	`Fisker-`	`cncfanatics yeah i know`
`11:44.20`	`Fisker-`	`But i hadn't ticked it myself`
`11:44.25`	`Fisker-`	`but i found out that was the problem :I`
`11:44.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`:)`
`11:47.05`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r24927 10AutoBar/AutoBarProfile.lua:`
`11:47.05`	`CIA-17`	`AutoBar:`
`11:47.05`	`CIA-17`	`-AutoBarProfile:CanCastSpell, not just CanCastSpell`
`11:48.19`	`cncfanatics`	`ckknight, are you around mate ?`
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`11:53.33`	`dafire`	`lol.. cartographer questfu should not put player sharings quests in the map ;)`
`11:54.06`	`ssm_`	`dafire: Noticed that yesterday. I've got groupmates all over the maps. :D`
`11:54.16`	`snirks`	`questfu`
`11:54.19`	`snirks`	`stfu hehe`
`11:54.46`	`dafire`	`ups .9`
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`11:54.59`	`Ominous__`	`bah stupid internet`
`11:57.01`	`kenlyric\|home`	`snirks, or there could be a standard option for every cart plugin to remove minimap icons.`
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`11:57.15`	`Sparkz`	`Anyone know what update blizz is pushing today?`
`11:57.21`	`sbu`	`2.0.4`
`11:57.28`	`sbu`	`few fixes`
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`11:57.35`	`sbu`	`e.g. 5 min games for horde :p`
`11:57.54`	`markv`	`they need to fix the gnomes hitting you from 40yrds away with melee crap`
`11:58.02`	`sbu`	`hm`
`11:58.34`	`Sparkz`	`looks like saturday is a bad day to push updates :P Been downloading for the last 5 minutes - still at < 10%`
`11:58.48`	`markv`	`sparkz you EU?`
`11:58.57`	`Sparkz`	`yeah`
`11:59.00`	`markv`	`thought so`
`11:59.09`	`markv`	`it's not that big, only a couple of megs i think`
`11:59.11`	`xlvii`	`what do you put at the top of macros to show the proper icon?`
`11:59.11`	`xlvii`	`;_:`
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`11:59.22`	`snirks`	`kenlyric\|home: i think you tabbed the wrong name there, mate`
`11:59.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`xlvii: Icon? you can select the '?' icon and it should do it`
`11:59.47`	`sbu`	`same here Sparkz`
`11:59.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`if you m ean tooltip, then you want "# showtooltip"`
`11:59.57`	`xlvii`	`nighthawkthesane, apparently you have to put some text at the top to make it show properly..`
`11:59.59`	`sbu`	`40%!`
`12:00.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`xlvii: the "?" icon will show the icon for the first spell it sees in the macro. if you want a different one, there might be a command you can use, but i'm not sure what it is. CHeck the ui forum?`
`12:00.55`	`Sparkz`	`stalled at 13% now - guess I'll have to find something else to do for a while :P`
`12:00.56`	`syeren`	`Night :P`
`12:00.57`	`syeren`	`#leftcolumn {float: left; width: 250px;}`
`12:00.57`	`syeren`	`#centercolumn {margin-left: 260px}`
`12:00.57`	`syeren`	`#rightcolumn {float: right; width:250px}`
`12:00.57`	`syeren`	`#rightrightcolumn {float: right; width: 250px}`
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`12:01.14`	`xlvii`	`nighthawkthesane, do you know if there is anything wrong with this: /cast [equipped:thrown] Throw; [equipped:bow] Shoot; [equipped:crossbow] Shoot; [equipped:gun] Shoot`
`12:01.20`	`syeren`	`Rightcolum and Rightright cloum appear to the right and underneath centercolumn :/`
`12:01.22`	`xlvii`	`it won't shoot my gun.. ;_;`
`12:01.29`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hmm.`
`12:01.36`	`syeren`	`*column`
`12:01.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`that should work...`
`12:01.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`will it fire other weapon types?`
`12:02.10`	`xlvii`	`nighthawk, i don't have anything else`
`12:02.16`	`xlvii`	`i'm a level 49 noob strapped for cash >_>`
`12:02.49`	`axxo`	`don't think the spell is 'shoot'`
`12:03.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hmm, yeah, try "Shoot Gun"`
`12:03.20`	`Fisker-`	`Did arcane crystal to arcane dust make it into retail or did they remove it?`
`12:03.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`well, maybe they changed that in a patch.. hmm.. cause i remmeber it being just "shoot" in beta, but not on live...`
`12:04.03`	`Adirelle`	`hey, seems the EU servers have something to DL...`
`12:04.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I dont believe that was ever actually in the game Fisker-`
`12:04.08`	`Fisker-`	`2.0.4`
`12:04.13`	`sbu`	`yay, 50%`
`12:04.13`	`Adirelle`	`I guess`
`12:04.14`	`[1]Ominous`	`whats the change?`
`12:04.22`	`Adirelle`	`hotfixes`
`12:04.36`	`Adirelle`	`it's terribly slow though`
`12:04.37`	`sbu`	`but they didnt fix the raid interface?`
`12:04.54`	`Sparkz`	`still stuck at 13%`
`12:04.59`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`not exactly hotfixes, but yeah.. it fixes raid/targetting issues, probably a few other things`
`12:04.59`	`xlvii`	`nighthawkthesane, i only have 'shoot' in my spellbook now`
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`12:05.13`	`sbu`	`NightHawkTheSane: you sure about the raid/targetting thing?`
`12:05.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`xlvii: nod let me log in to my warrior and check`
`12:05.27`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`sbu: nope. :)`
`12:05.33`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`is it just me`
`12:05.40`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`or do pets eat a hell of a lot more after 2.0.3`
`12:05.44`	`sbu`	`ok - then i'll keep RaidWindowFixes some more time ;p`
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`12:06.02`	`Adirelle`	`it's looking like i'm going to blinding play with code some more time :)`
`12:06.09`	`Adirelle`	`s/blinding/blindy/`
`12:06.10`	`nevcairiel`	`you can right click again`
`12:06.13`	`nevcairiel`	`and promote people`
`12:06.26`	`sbu`	`Adirelle: like blizzard does?`
`12:06.28`	`sbu`	`sometimes`
`12:06.38`	`Adirelle`	`sbu: olol`
`12:06.40`	`Adirelle`	`like that`
`12:06.55`	`syeren`	`Night, helpzorz :P`
`12:07.00`	`Adirelle`	`except that quite often, once I corrected the typo, my code works quite nicely`
`12:07.05`	`sbu`	`err well - i really have NO idea how raid targetting could be fxxxx up that way..`
`12:07.17`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`sbu: we're talking about blizzard here`
`12:07.29`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`when have they not screwed something like that up`
`12:07.40`	`sbu`	`at least in theory you have to touch something raid related to cause such bugs`
`12:07.49`	`sbu`	`hm ok, the reworked the raid window`
`12:07.50`	`sbu`	`right`
`12:08.14`	`Adirelle`	`the flag cap bug is quite annoying too`
`12:08.24`	`sbu`	`Adirelle: not for horde ;p`
`12:08.34`	`sbu`	`although i still dont know what main tank and main assist in blizz interface is :/`
`12:08.40`	`Adirelle`	`dunno how it works, I've seen mage using it`
`12:08.44`	`nuOHEP`	`the best part about 2.0.4 is that it installed on my bc beta client without any problems :)`
`12:08.45`	`nevcairiel`	`did anyone else encounter the bug, when you leave a battleground, you are stuck in the battlegrounds raid?`
`12:08.48`	`sbu`	`Adirelle: shaman far sight :o`
`12:09.04`	`Adirelle`	`sbu: I seen a mage capping 10meter away from the flag...`
`12:09.04`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`apparently alliance can do it too and it doesn't matter what class`
`12:09.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`xlvii: try this "/cast [equipped:Crossbows] Shoot; [equipped:Guns] Shoot; [equipped:Bows] Shoot; [equipped:Thrown] Throw;"`
`12:09.20`	`dafire`	`didn't thy put in /shoot now ?`
`12:09.21`	`sbu`	`Adirelle: yeah, i guess you have to see the flag to capture`
`12:09.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`note the plural on the item types.. and im not sure but case may have something to do with it`
`12:09.25`	`Adirelle`	`(and why the fuck doesn't work with eye of the beast or eye of the hawk :D)`
`12:09.28`	`sbu`	`so its easy with farsight`
`12:09.32`	`sbu`	`oh, doesnt?`
`12:09.34`	`sbu`	`ok ;o`
`12:09.57`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`dafire: no`
`12:10.01`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`Sure it's not Throwns then NightHawk ;)`
`12:10.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`actually, no im not OvrLrd-Q :P`
`12:10.46`	`Gngsk`	`Throw : Requires Thrown`
`12:10.59`	`Adirelle`	`OvrLrd-Q: oh alliance can do ? I myself tried with pet and eye of the hawk, doesn't seems to work`
`12:11.20`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`I dont know the specifics Adirelle, just from what I've been reading`
`12:11.28`	`Adirelle`	`and what about /cast [equipped:Thrown] Throw; Shoot ?`
`12:11.54`	`Adirelle`	`btw, using some item information mods could be help (to see item type)`
`12:12.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`that should also work, but probably toss an error if you dont have any ranged weapon`
`12:13.06`	`Adirelle`	`NightHawkTheSane: it should be error-free ?`
`12:13.12`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`Lets just say AV is completely borked and leave it at that, remote flag capping, solo van pulls and all the rest :)`
`12:13.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Adirelle: well, i mean if you dont have any ranged weapon equipped, it'll throw up the "That requires a ranged weapon" error mesasge. not a big deal, really.. but I dont like seeing it. :)`
`12:14.13`	`Adirelle`	`cncfanatics: about your buttons, I'm sure handling each button as its own object is a good idea`
`12:14.13`	`sbu`	`hmm`
`12:14.17`	`Adirelle`	`processing wise`
`12:14.18`	`sbu`	`is mobhealth still working?`
`12:14.29`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`sbu: yes`
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`12:14.35`	`sbu`	`ok`
`12:14.51`	`Adirelle`	`AceEvent will have to check event list of each button`
`12:15.27`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`(and yes, it's [equipped:Thrown] i just tested it. :P`
`12:15.29`	`Adirelle`	`maybe you would be able to do some filtering yourself`
`12:16.12`	`cncfanatics`	`back :)`
`12:16.34`	`Adirelle`	`cncfanatics: looks back`
`12:16.49`	`Adirelle`	`s/s//`
`12:17.05`	`Adirelle`	`purl, wha did you do ?`
`12:17.36`	`sbu`	`73!`
`12:17.55`	`Sparkz`	`33 :P`
`12:17.57`	`FtH\|eagle`	`anyone knows the name of the addon which sells all items with minimum quality?`
`12:18.07`	`Adirelle`	`eagle: tried automaton ?`
`12:18.14`	`Sparkz`	`FtH\|eagle: GarbageFu?`
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`12:18.52`	`FtH\|eagle`	`automaton can do that, too?`
`12:18.56`	`Adirelle`	`yep`
`12:18.58`	`axxo`	`accidentlyvendormyepix`
`12:19.03`	`FtH\|eagle`	`ok, will try both :)`
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`12:20.02`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`garbagefu works nice (imo)`
`12:20.02`	`Adirelle`	`FtH\|eagle: be warned that all automaton feature are enabled by default`
`12:20.03`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`lootfilter is the devil`
`12:20.03`	`Adirelle`	`FtH\|eagle: it MUST be configured`
`12:20.30`	`Adirelle`	`woohoo... 20% to 21%... :s`
`12:20.57`	`Tornhoof`	`someone upload the en_gb patch somewhere`
`12:21.18`	`kebinusan`	`its super tiny`
`12:21.29`	`kebinusan`	`there wasnt even a torrent for it`
`12:21.34`	`Adirelle`	`yep, but the servers are super buzy`
`12:21.52`	`Sparkz`	`it's around 20 megs - they should have made a torrenet for it :P`
`12:21.53`	`Adirelle`	`it seems that even wowace.com had been faster...`
`12:22.12`	`Sparkz`	`I'm dropping it on my ftp once it's down`
`12:22.13`	`axxo`	`http://finalx.eu/wow/patches/enGB/ 3.6mb`
`12:22.18`	`Adirelle`	`but maybe that's only my feeling :D`
`12:22.18`	`Sparkz`	`but no way to tell when that will be :P`
`12:22.32`	`Adirelle`	`anyone got the frFR one ?`
`12:22.44`	`Fin`	`you star`
`12:22.49`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`and I found it weird that 2.0.4's installer doesn't stick around :(`
`12:23.33`	`andremar`	`hms.. something i Baggins makes wow freeze from time to time when I alter some options`
`12:23.39`	`Adirelle`	`3MiB at 25%, frFR should be 12Mo`
`12:23.44`	`andremar`	`right now I changed profile, and everthing stopped`
`12:23.47`	`Adirelle`	`s/Mo/MiB/`
`12:23.53`	`Sparkz`	`oh - they allocated _nearly_ all of the filesize on one go on my disk. Figured they grew it as they went, and decided it was going to be around 20megs :P`
`12:23.56`	`Nargiddley`	`andremar, freeze forever ?`
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`12:28.01`	`anenigma`	`Hang on, there's a new patch being pushed out or is this eu getting 2.0.4?`
`12:28.07`	`sbu`	`WTB enGB TBC client :(`
`12:28.16`	`anenigma`	`Cause I don't recall the US 2.0.4 patch being that big`
`12:28.16`	`kebinusan`	`eu getting 2.0.4 I think`
`12:28.48`	`kebinusan`	`no it was tiny`
`12:28.55`	`kebinusan`	`it didnt even use the bliz downloader`
`12:29.05`	`sbu`	`and1 with fast (>10mbit) conn + enGB TBC client (well - tuesday ... :p)`
`12:29.10`	`sbu`	`err any`
`12:29.12`	`sbu`	`and +?`
`12:29.23`	`anenigma`	`I haven't even pre-ordered`
`12:29.25`	`dotted`	`hmm Ace2 libs arent in beta anymore are they?`
`12:29.27`	`anenigma`	`And I probably won't`
`12:29.30`	`sbu`	`hm`
`12:29.32`	`kebinusan`	`sbu, cant you use the beta client`
`12:29.40`	`kebinusan`	`assuming you have the proper cd key to upgrade your acct`
`12:29.40`	`Tornhoof`	`you can`
`12:29.44`	`sbu`	`kebinusan: hmm - im not sure about that`
`12:29.51`	`Sparkz`	`I'll drop by the store on tuesday and grab a copy :P`
`12:29.56`	`kebinusan`	`pretty sure you can, it worked with wow proper`
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`12:30.21`	`syeren`	`NightHawkTheSane, you here :)?`
`12:30.34`	`sbu`	`kebinusan: in techforums there are posts that tell you to remove beta stuff`
`12:30.36`	`sbu`	`dont know`
`12:30.53`	`sbu`	`ok - and where to get enGB beta client? ducks ;)`
`12:30.53`	`kebinusan`	`Im sure bliz wont support it if you do it`
`12:30.56`	`kebinusan`	`but Im also pretty sure it works`
`12:31.07`	`sbu`	`well - that should be no problem at all`
`12:32.07`	`sbu`	`kebinusan: dont have beta client :/`
`12:32.12`	`snirks`	`can you set raid icons via macros?`
`12:32.22`	`snirks`	`i tried bananabar`
`12:32.24`	`snirks`	`but its too much`
`12:32.30`	`sbu`	`download completed :o`
`12:33.15`	`kebinusan`	`snirks: yeah, check wowwiki Im sure there is something there on it`
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`12:33.32`	`syeren`	`And I have finally finished!`
`12:33.33`	`syeren`	`http://www.fabrikate.org/ui/`
`12:33.38`	`sbu`	`ahh`
`12:33.42`	`sbu`	`https://beta.wow-europe.com/expansion/downloads/#none still working`
`12:34.01`	`Saraphim`	`Hello guys! Anyone here familiar with Cartographer_Import?`
`12:34.15`	`yacoob`	`let's make some fun. Imagine it's 16th. TBC is out there in the wild.`
`12:34.16`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`snirks: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetRaidTarget`
`12:34.23`	`yacoob`	`How much of the servers are down? :)`
`12:34.30`	`yacoob`	`How much of the addons spew errors at users?`
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`12:34.49`	`yacoob`	`How many folks get disconnected from the crowd, when visiting new starting places? :)`
`12:35.02`	`sbu`	`yacoob: dont see the point with addons`
`12:35.11`	`Saraphim`	`I am having trouble with the addon called Cartographer_Import. It doesn't, well, -import-. *grins`
`12:35.12`	`Saraphim`	`*`
`12:35.13`	`sbu`	`but you are right with server down / disconnects / ...`
`12:35.18`	`Saraphim`	`Could use a hand if anyone knows about it.`
`12:35.25`	`sbu`	`and imaging you're on a pvp server - right beyond the dark portal, have fun :p`
`12:35.36`	`sbu`	`alliance AE bombing on portal`
`12:35.42`	`sbu`	`just like 3 days ago with felguards ;p`
`12:35.42`	`yacoob`	`sbu, assuming nothing will change till then... then yes.`
`12:35.51`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`yacoob: sounds like last week with quixiote, every time somebody turned in a quest I got disconnected lol`
`12:35.58`	`kebinusan`	`sbu, the other side of the portal is sanctuary`
`12:36.00`	`kebinusan`	`you cant fight there`
`12:36.03`	`snirks`	`OvrLrd-Q: thanks!`
`12:36.10`	`kebinusan`	`all you have to do is survive the corpse run in the blasted lands`
`12:36.10`	`yacoob`	`sbu, but if blizz will try to patch something up, as an emergency thing... good luck! :D`
`12:36.11`	`snirks`	`kebinusan: thanks to you too :)`
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`12:39.22`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`Grr wish Blizz would reenable text searching in forums`
`12:41.16`	`anenigma`	`Can you image how often the forums would die?`
`12:41.38`	`anenigma`	`kebinusan: My 60 mage is ready for tbc. he's left his corpse right next to the gate, so no gankage on logging in`
`12:41.47`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`anenigma: no?`
`12:42.53`	`specialunderwear`	`yo`
`12:43.09`	`specialunderwear`	`i sthere an addon that can show wehn backlash procs?`
`12:43.11`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`how many people you think browse the forums at any given time?`
`12:43.25`	`Tain`	`A couple.`
`12:43.25`	`specialunderwear`	`Or is there a lib that can display icons really large on my screen?`
`12:43.30`	`Tain`	`Maybe ten or twenty.`
`12:43.44`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`thousand? two?`
`12:43.51`	`Tain`	`Nah like twenty people.`
`12:44.00`	`anenigma`	`More like nineteen, imho`
`12:44.23`	`Tain`	`What they should do is suck it up and put some real hardware and a solid back-end behind it.`
`12:44.28`	`syeren`	`Saraphim, Try and get ckknight's attetion :p`
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`12:44.41`	`Saraphim`	`syeren thanks, I'm trying. :)`
`12:44.46`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`I mean [H] has 2-3K people on a time with about 5M total posts and handles full text search just fine`
`12:45.00`	`Tain`	`However it doesn't make Blizzard any money to have a more full featured forum.`
`12:45.06`	`Saraphim`	`Afraid he's sleeping. ^^`
`12:45.15`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`OvrLrd-Q we are not talking about 2-3k people with blizz boards`
`12:45.21`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`we are talking about 2-3 million`
`12:45.26`	`Tain`	`Actually public forums are just something game companies begrudgingly allow.`
`12:45.49`	`Tain`	`Nah, not a chance for over a million people at a time on the Blizz forums.`
`12:45.50`	`anenigma`	`Woah, 2-3mill is a bit high. That assumes that 25%+ of all subscribers are online at all times`
`12:46.23`	`Tain`	`You have to remember, a tiny percentage of players ever actually use the forums.`
`12:46.30`	`Tain`	`It seems like a lot, but compared to the subcriber base it isn't.`
`12:46.31`	`syeren`	`Well I have no clue Saraphim, most of the main devs are asleep it would seem, and I have never used Cart.`
`12:47.00`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Tain if i want info, even as european player, i always have to go to the us page`
`12:47.00`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`fine, take /. then :)`
`12:47.15`	`Tain`	`Yeah but other people do use the EU forums.`
`12:47.16`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`even though i cant post`
`12:47.32`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Tain if you want FIRST HAND info you have to use US boards.`
`12:47.48`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`mostly we get the same posts a week later, badly translated`
`12:47.50`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`its a shame`
`12:47.59`	`Tain`	`Sure, but that doesn't mean everyone does it.`
`12:48.12`	`Tain`	`The EU forums are still active, just nowhere as much.`
`12:48.36`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`seems like all the helpful profession guides are on eu though, atleast ones I've found`
`12:48.54`	`Tain`	`That's because Americans don't like to help people! :D`
`12:49.04`	`syeren`	`The EU page is awesome./`
`12:49.05`	`Tain`	`But you'll get some helpful Canadians.`
`12:49.05`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`true dat`
`12:49.07`	`syeren`	`It's either down.`
`12:49.09`	`syeren`	`Or laggy.`
`12:49.16`	`syeren`	`Containts out dated information.`
`12:49.27`	`syeren`	`My fucking account got hacked yesterday and I have to wait for the EU Account team.`
`12:49.30`	`syeren`	`It's AWESOME.`
`12:49.44`	`syeren`	`While that fag who did it is playing my Warrior.`
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`12:49.53`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`heh`
`12:50.27`	`syeren`	`And the patchdownload for 2.0.4 is taking almost an hour on the EU client.`
`12:50.29`	`syeren`	`It's awesome.`
`12:50.37`	`cncfanatics`	`I dl'd it in 10 sec :p`
`12:50.40`	`syeren`	`*patch downloader.`
`12:50.47`	`Tornhoof`	`you might want to ttake some mirror`
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`12:50.56`	`cncfanatics`	`its what, 2 mb ?`
`12:50.56`	`Tornhoof`	`for en_Gb and de_DE the mpq is identical`
`12:51.02`	`Hjalte`	`syeren: You're downloading with the background downloader?`
`12:51.26`	`syeren`	`No, I'm trying to download the update via WoW, in order to get the Background downloader to start.`
`12:51.27`	`nevcairiel`	`syeren: 2.0.4 took like 5 minutes for me`
`12:51.38`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`2.0.4 is like . . 5 megs or something`
`12:51.47`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`if that`
`12:51.54`	`Hjalte`	`syeren: the reason i asked, is that the background downloader is supposed to go very slow, to allow you to play at the same time.`
`12:52.42`	`syeren`	`That isn't my problem ;p`
`12:53.25`	`syeren`	`http://fabrikate.org/wow/gg.jpg`
`12:53.34`	`syeren`	`Currently downloading for 51 minutes!`
`12:53.36`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`laugh`
`12:53.38`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`http://home.arcor.de/amblin/TBC.jpg`
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`12:54.19`	`specialunderwear`	`Or is there a lib that can display icons really large on my screen?`
`12:54.23`	`specialunderwear`	`i sthere an addon that can show wehn backlash procs?`
`12:54.26`	`specialunderwear`	`yo`
`12:54.30`	`syeren`	`Buffalo`
`12:54.34`	`syeren`	`Oh...`
`12:54.36`	`syeren`	`Normal Icons?`
`12:54.44`	`specialunderwear`	`game icons`
`12:54.52`	`syeren`	`Like your spell buttons and so on?`
`12:54.55`	`specialunderwear`	`yep`
`12:55.01`	`syeren`	`Get something like Bartender 3.`
`12:55.05`	`syeren`	`And increase the scale.`
`12:55.14`	`specialunderwear`	`no I dont want buttons`
`12:55.18`	`specialunderwear`	`Just images`
`12:55.25`	`syeren`	`...`
`12:55.26`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`xart ?`
`12:55.27`	`syeren`	`O-o;`
`12:55.33`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24929 10PT3Browser/ (. PT3Browser-enUS.lua PT3Browser.lua PT3Browser.toc libs/): PT3Browser: initial import`
`12:55.44`	`Hjalte`	`specialunderwear: ShardAce, an ace2 warlock addon like necrosis, has a warning http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4675-ShardAce.html`
`12:55.51`	`yacoob`	`FtH\|Daemona, now we have a proof that TBC is stacking :D`
`12:56.01`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`hurm, isn't autobar supposed to add quest items?`
`12:56.03`	`sylvanaar`	`woops`
`12:56.04`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`yeah, but they still wouldnt sell me one 10 minutes ago :(`
`12:56.08`	`sylvanaar`	`wrong room`
`12:56.11`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`well nonetheless, bbl`
`12:56.17`	`specialunderwear`	`ait Hjalte ty but I hope it is not as big as necrosis`
`12:56.25`	`sylvanaar`	`any volunteers to test WAU 1.7?`
`12:56.26`	`yacoob`	`FtH\|Daemona, you are not a jedi yet, my young padawan`
`12:56.42`	`andremar`	`specialunderwear: get BT3 and use Zoomed layout for a 1x1 bar and scale it up, you get a large icon`
`12:56.43`	`Hjalte`	`specialunderwear: Hey, it's ace2 ;) And also, it does not provide timer bars..`
`12:56.45`	`kebinusan`	`nymbia: not sure if this is a you or rabbit thing, but mrplow now moves my soul shards out of my shard bag and sorts them in with my other items`
`12:56.52`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`sylvanaar`
`12:57.01`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`oh nm, it's getting overriden by my poisons`
`12:57.04`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`sure, drop me a link in pm, i check it out when i a m back later :)`
`12:57.09`	`specialunderwear`	`Good i want dot timers for that`
`12:57.27`	`nymbia`	`kebinusan: which shard bag do you have?`
`12:57.29`	`Hjalte`	`syeren: Hmm, you're right, it does actually take a long time to get the new patch.. oO`
`12:57.43`	`syeren`	`EU servers are jew.`
`12:57.44`	`syeren`	`That's why.`
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`12:57.51`	`kebinusan`	`core felcloth`
`12:58.12`	`sbu`	`haha!`
`12:58.15`	`sbu`	`gameshop just called`
`12:58.28`	`sbu`	`TBC avail mo->di, 0:00 :p`
`12:58.32`	`sbu`	`mo->tue`
`12:58.34`	`sbu`	`damn :p`
`12:58.50`	`Tornhoof`	`amazon.de still didn't ship`
`12:58.53`	`Tornhoof`	`morons`
`12:59.07`	`yacoob`	`there will be lot of trampling`
`12:59.19`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`hurm`
`12:59.26`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`quest items still not showing up`
`12:59.33`	`yacoob`	`I wonder whether it would be as much as nextgens queues... :)`
`12:59.37`	`sbu`	`Tornhoof: thats why i ordered it here...`
`12:59.50`	`sbu`	`Tornhoof: amazon is great, but i dont trust DHL :p`
`13:00.06`	`Tornhoof`	`i trust dhl to ship it with overnight express`
`13:00.19`	`sbu`	`heh ;o`
`13:00.21`	`sbu`	`ok`
`13:00.33`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar 07SuperSecretHidingPlace * r24930 10FuBar_SWStats2Fu/ (secret.zip secret1.7a01.zip): FuBar_SWStats2Fu: Dont tell anyone`
`13:00.53`	`sbu`	`err sylvanaar`
`13:00.55`	`sbu`	`wth? P:)`
`13:00.57`	`Tornhoof`	`i emailed amazon, they said, we probably ship it on friday, now it's saturday, amazon logistics closes in like 2 hours (if not already) and it's not yet shipped`
`13:01.22`	`sbu`	`well - overnight express should be fine if they ship monday?`
`13:01.24`	`yacoob`	`Tornhoof, emergency!`
`13:01.31`	`cncfanatics`	`Tornhoof, mine was shiped yesterday`
`13:01.33`	`Tornhoof`	`i don't want to play tuesday morning`
`13:01.41`	`Tornhoof`	`i want to play tuesday night`
`13:01.51`	`sylvanaar`	`i can play right now`
`13:01.56`	`sylvanaar`	`im not`
`13:02.00`	`cncfanatics`	`u got your copy ? :o`
`13:02.09`	`Tornhoof`	`especially i want to enter my dumb key early ;)`
`13:02.17`	`dafire`	`i got a mail that they are not allowed to ship before monday ..`
`13:02.20`	`sylvanaar`	`no - have a beta key`
`13:02.22`	`yacoob`	`Tornhoof, you really think you'd get through the crowds to login server?`
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`13:02.41`	`cncfanatics`	`hehe idd`
`13:02.43`	`syeren`	`People who preorder?!?`
`13:02.47`	`cncfanatics`	`I Don't care anyway, i'll be migrating`
`13:02.57`	`syeren`	`I'm turning upto my local gamestore with a 9 MM gun to get my copy!`
`13:03.28`	`Tornhoof`	`larger`
`13:03.36`	`Tornhoof`	`I'm showing up with some tank`
`13:03.42`	`Tornhoof`	`something big and nasty`
`13:03.44`	`Hjalte`	`syeren: I preordered in my local gamestore, that is open at night to allow us to get our copies ;)`
`13:04.00`	`kebinusan`	`I just hate the fact that stores like eb receive their copies at least a week in advance most of the time, and still hold off on shipping preorders early to gank customers on overnight shipping`
`13:04.09`	`kebinusan`	`of course I blame bliz for not having online purchase available too`
`13:04.25`	`Mysticfox`	`i preordered my copy off of amazon back in october with just the standard 3-5 day shipping... it said i would receive it on the release date at the time i ordered it`
`13:04.34`	`yacoob`	`kebinusan, just pay with card, get a code? :)`
`13:04.40`	`kebinusan`	`yacoob: yeah`
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`13:04.56`	`yacoob`	`you do not need box et al, or you are willing to get it later?`
`13:05.13`	`kebinusan`	`I really dont need it`
`13:05.15`	`yacoob`	`(just asking, it's fun to see how various people expectations are, same with cds, dvds, and stuff...)`
`13:05.21`	`kebinusan`	`why buy physical media for an online game`
`13:05.22`	`Sparkz`	`can someone update Fubar_QuestFu? Someone bumped the interface number to 20004 there - should still be 20003 afaik`
`13:05.42`	`kebinusan`	`Sparkz: no its 20004`
`13:05.57`	`Tornhoof`	`hmm?`
`13:06.03`	`Tornhoof`	`addons work fine with 20003`
`13:06.06`	`yacoob`	`well, sometimes it's useful to have cds`
`13:06.15`	`yacoob`	`but then again, with such frequent patching, it's futile`
`13:06.27`	`Adirelle`	`Nargiddley : I was thinking about adding some fancy menu when right-clicking bag or section titles, but I'm too lazy to replace FontString with proper buttons`
`13:06.31`	`kebinusan`	`yacoob: yeah`
`13:06.46`	`Sparkz`	`kebinusan: oh - well it wouldn't load here with 20004`
`13:06.48`	`Sparkz`	`but when I changed it to 20003 it loaded`
`13:08.40`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r24931 10BagSlots/BagSlots.toc:`
`13:08.40`	`CIA-17`	`BagSlots:`
`13:08.40`	`CIA-17`	`- Update TOC`
`13:09.48`	`kebinusan`	`I never payed attention but the patch was to 2.0.4, so the toc should change`
`13:09.51`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar 07SuperSecretHidingPlace * r24933 10FuBar_SWStats2Fu/secret1.7a01.zip: FuBar_SWStats2Fu: what is a modify op for a binary file? cheap copy still?`
`13:10.00`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r24932 10FuBar_MicroMenuFu/FuBar_MicroMenuFu.toc:`
`13:10.00`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_MicroMenuFu:`
`13:10.00`	`CIA-17`	`- Update TOC`
`13:10.11`	`phyber`	`kebinusan: not really. 2.0.1 was 20000 ;)`
`13:10.22`	`sylvanaar`	`why should it be 20004 us doesnt need that`
`13:10.52`	`dafire`	`they only update the number when something important in interface changes`
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`13:11.45`	`snirks`	`how do I use this together with if?`
`13:11.53`	`snirks`	`sec its coming`
`13:11.57`	`snirks`	`icon=GetRaidTargetIndex("unit");`
`13:12.26`	`snirks`	`i want to chekc it, and if it returns true, then it shall remove the icon with SetRaidTarget("target",0);`
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`13:13.12`	`sylvanaar`	`haha, i spent all this time writing a !!!Std installer and mine arent installed`
`13:13.35`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`snirks: just check if it's non zero`
`13:14.20`	`snirks`	`i dont know where to put the checker`
`13:14.25`	`nymbia`	`kebinusan: no errors or anything?`
`13:15.31`	`snirks`	`OvrLrd-Q: currently it looks like this (lol): /script if 0=GetRaidTargetIndex("target");`
`13:15.33`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24934 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua: PeriodicTable-3.0: Handle certain bad inputs more gracefully.`
`13:15.39`	`sylvanaar`	`ffs files is slow`
`13:15.44`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r24935 10FuBar_DuraTek/FuBar_DuraTek.toc:`
`13:15.44`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_DuraTek:`
`13:15.44`	`CIA-17`	`- TOC Update`
`13:15.59`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`if GetRaidTargetIndex("unit") ~= nil then`
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`13:16.09`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`shrug dont know lua`
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`13:16.38`	`sylvanaar`	`thank god for pastsa`
`13:16.55`	`sylvanaar`	`s/pastsa/pasta's/`
`13:17.10`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r24937 10FuBar_RestFu/FuBar_RestFu.toc:`
`13:17.11`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_RestFu:`
`13:17.11`	`CIA-17`	`- Update TOC`
`13:17.20`	`nymbia`	`kebinusan: i just made a level one hunter and it seemed to be working ok with the ammo bag.. and your shard bag is definitely in the data..`
`13:17.27`	`sylvanaar`	`does eu require that update?`
`13:18.02`	`kebinusan`	`hmm lemme update and try again`
`13:19.51`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`snirks: /script if GetRaidTargetIndex("target") ~= nil then SetRaidTarget("target",0) end`
`13:20.45`	`snirks`	`how do i get it to set it if the target does not have an icon_`
`13:21.18`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`/script if GetRaidTargetIndex("target") == nil then SetRaidTarget("target",number of icon) end`
`13:22.08`	`kebinusan`	`nymbia: yeah, its treating my Core Felcloth bag is a normal bag, I show its itemid as 21342 if that helps`
`13:22.49`	`nymbia`	`kebinusan: it's in the PT data for sure. is it trying to move items other than shards into it?`
`13:22.55`	`kebinusan`	`yeah`
`13:23.15`	`kebinusan`	`It moves my shards out of it, and is definately trying to move items other than shards into it, keep hearing`
`13:23.20`	`nymbia`	`hmm. and no errors?`
`13:23.21`	`kebinusan`	`'I cant put that there' when I plow`
`13:23.32`	`kebinusan`	`nope no errors in bugsack`
`13:23.36`	`snirks`	`i need an else`
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`13:24.23`	`snirks`	`OvrLrd-Q: /script if GetRaidTargetIndex("target") == nil then SetRaidTarget("target",3) else SetRaidTarget("target",3) end`
`13:24.26`	`snirks`	`does else work_`
`13:24.35`	`snirks`	`didnt work, but doesnt make errors either`
`13:24.53`	`snirks`	`rofl sec`
`13:24.54`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`well yea cuz you set the icon to the same thing`
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`13:25.56`	`snirks`	`yeah`
`13:26.20`	`snirks`	`if target icon is 0, then set icon 3, else clear icon`
`13:26.23`	`snirks`	`thats what i want`
`13:26.30`	`snirks`	`sort of like a switch`
`13:26.33`	`snirks`	`icon on, icon of`
`13:26.37`	`snirks`	`off*`
`13:26.39`	`nymbia`	`kebinusan: well, lets see how it's failing.. open up MrPlow.lua and add "ChatFrame1:AddMessage(bagTLink) ChatFrame1:AddMessage(specialBag)" after "PT:ItemInSet(bagTLink, "Bag.Special")" on line 799`
`13:27.04`	`syeren`	`NightHawkTheSane!!!!!!!!!!!`
`13:27.24`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`/script if GetRaidTargetIndex("target") == nil then SetRaidTarget("target",3) else SetRaidTarget("target",0) end`
`13:27.27`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24938 10PT3Browser/libs/: PT3Browser: Externals, yo.`
`13:28.03`	`nymbia`	`kebinusan: scratch that`
`13:28.06`	`Yinchie`	`hrmm MrPlow is bugged? when doing The Works it grabs soulshards out of the soulbag and puts them in the normal bags.`
`13:28.10`	`nymbia`	`kebinusan: i know what the problem is.`
`13:28.28`	`snirks`	`woot`
`13:28.31`	`snirks`	`OvrLrd-Q: thank you =)`
`13:28.35`	`kebinusan`	`okie, scratched`
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`13:29.37`	`kebinusan`	`Yinchie: yeah working on that with nymbia right now :-)`
`13:30.02`	`Yinchie`	`kebinusan: sweet :)`
`13:30.12`	`Panye`	`what does MrPlow do actually never tested it?`
`13:30.23`	`kebinusan`	`it sorts your inventory`
`13:30.29`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`sorts your . . yea`
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`13:30.46`	`Yinchie`	`cant live without it anymore ^^`
`13:30.55`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24939 10MrPlow/ (Libs/ MrPlow.toc): MrPlow: Added PT3 Misc embed so that special bags are recognized.`
`13:31.02`	`nymbia`	`kebinusan, Yinchie, test please :)`
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`13:31.10`	`Panye`	`hmm sounds good`
`13:31.22`	`trh`	`hidiho`
`13:31.26`	`Yinchie`	`got to go wash myself first, just woke up ^^`
`13:32.01`	`sylvanaar`	`omg i have externals in everything yuck`
`13:32.44`	`syeren`	`Sylv!`
`13:32.47`	`syeren`	`Look what I made!`
`13:32.52`	`syeren`	`http://fabrikate.org/ui/`
`13:32.55`	`Tain`	`You got your externals in my peanut butter!`
`13:33.41`	`kebinusan`	`nymbia: thnx, waiting for this svn mirror to catch up`
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`13:33.52`	`sylvanaar`	`oh no - lol theres no way to do a delete before extract now with SAL installed on WAU 1.7`
`13:34.16`	`groll`	`syeren how did u get them bars above the target and such?`
`13:34.30`	`syeren`	`Antagonist.`
`13:34.46`	`Mikma`	`what's there at the new patch?`
`13:34.54`	`Mikma`	`any patchnotes available?`
`13:35.00`	`groll`	`ah oke`
`13:35.16`	`groll`	`antagonist is sadly missing stuff so i'm using natur`
`13:36.00`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24940 10MrPlow/MrPlow.toc: MrPlow: fixed line ends ;)`
`13:36.05`	`CIA-17`	`03haarm * r24941 10Aperture/Aperture.toc:`
`13:36.05`	`CIA-17`	`Aperture:`
`13:36.05`	`CIA-17`	`- Finally updated the toc file to the latest version.`
`13:36.28`	`kebinusan`	`Mikma: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/`
`13:36.50`	`sylvanaar`	`server coloring?`
`13:37.27`	`sylvanaar`	`syeren: looks cool`
`13:37.27`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`Fixed a bug where flags in Arathi Basin could be captured at extremely long distances.`
`13:37.47`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`erm, thought that was AV too`
`13:38.00`	`sylvanaar`	`I see your common color is red`
`13:38.00`	`kebinusan`	`yeah I think they fixed both, not sure though`
`13:38.08`	`kebinusan`	`not a shaman, cant test`
`13:38.48`	`Mok`	`Hi there! i just signed the SVN rules and wondered if a svn-admin is online here? :)`
`13:39.21`	`cncfanatics`	`think they're sleeping Mok`
`13:39.39`	`haste`	`then you didn't really read the rules did you?`
`13:40.08`	`Mok`	`i did. i know there's an email link.`
`13:40.25`	`Mok`	`i wanted to speed up things a bit`
`13:40.43`	`nymbia`	`Mok: an email is required for all new users, i believe, to keep track of assigned accounts internally.`
`13:41.13`	`kebinusan`	`yeah its important to know who to kill when someone touches an addon they shouldnt`
`13:41.20`	`Mok`	`:)`
`13:41.32`	`Mok`	`ok then i just drop an email and wait`
`13:41.37`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`are there any addons that enhance the new LFG tool?`
`13:41.51`	`nymbia`	`Mok: they usually have pretty quick turnaround.`
`13:42.23`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`Grouper?`
`13:43.16`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`OvrLrd-Q, thanks, I'll check it out. :)`
`13:44.15`	`mexicaan`	`Downloading update in client never took more than 10sec, now its taking more than 45min X.x`
`13:45.03`	`nymbia`	`mexicaan: that's odd. it's only a couple megs..`
`13:45.14`	`Mok`	`thanks nymbia`
`13:45.19`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`mexicaan, are you EU? I have that problem here too.`
`13:45.52`	`nymbia`	`i bet a ton of people are all getting it at once`
`13:45.56`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`OvrLrd-Q, I can't see Grouper in AceUpdater? Is it unreleased?`
`13:46.03`	`nymbia`	`did it just go up over there?`
`13:46.14`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`nymbia, no idea. I just woke up. :)`
`13:46.22`	`mexicaan`	`EvilGrin\|Win: : im EU yeah`
`13:46.27`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`http://www.wowace.com/files/, grep for Grouper`
`13:46.40`	`mexicaan`	`and why is there a patch rlease on saturday O.o`
`13:46.54`	`nymbia`	`OvrLrd-Q: i think it's only in a branch`
`13:47.06`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`OvrLrd-Q, oh I see. I'm using a mirror thats out of date. :P`
`13:47.51`	`nymbia`	`OvrLrd-Q: ah, nevermind me ;)`
`13:49.13`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`who runs the 13th-floor mirror for wowace files? :)`
`13:49.18`	`CIA-17`	`03kodewulf * r24942 10Cartographer_Quests/ (Cartographer_Quests.toc addon.lua credits.txt): (log message trimmed)`
`13:49.18`	`CIA-17`	`Cartographer_Quests`
`13:49.19`	`CIA-17`	`* Only NPC's will be noted`
`13:49.19`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:49.19`	`CIA-17`	`* Updated TOC`
`13:49.20`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:49.22`	`CIA-17`	`* Updated credits.txt`
`13:49.27`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r24943 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: added Loot open event for blood of heroes`
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`13:52.53`	`Garns`	`mexicaan: because blizzard is unable to supply patches without bugs... http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/`
`13:53.28`	`Garns`	`i believe its a complete patch, that's why it takes so long`
`13:54.06`	`kebinusan`	`I dunno if it was 2.04 or 2.03 but they fixe... err nerfed dots apparently they resist as often as normal spells now and have a chance to resist per tick`
`13:54.22`	`kebinusan`	`honestly since they've done that they should get crit per tick too`
`13:55.41`	`Saraphim`	Does anyone have any experience with the addon Cartographer Import?`
`13:55.59`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`Saraphim, I've used it`
`13:57.04`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`mexicaan: 85% \o/`
`13:57.53`	`groll`	`Saraphim just run it with gatherer running at the same time and voila`
`13:58.13`	`cncfanatics`	`Adirelle, thanks for your help earlyer :) I found a solution`
`13:58.17`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`groll, you still need to use the old version of gatherer though don't you?`
`13:59.13`	`Klazar`	`is Autobar working now or do we still use the beta from curse-gaming?`
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`14:02.44`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r24944 10MCP-QQ/MCP/MCP.lua: MCP-QQ: fixed a pairs() but, how'd that get there?`
`14:02.54`	`nevcairiel`	`Sairen: ping`
`14:03.00`	`Sairen`	`nevcairiel: pong`
`14:03.22`	`nevcairiel`	`cyCircled bugs when you reload UI in combat`
`14:03.27`	`edv`	`am i the only one who's been unable to see playernames on ag_uf raidframes since 2.0.3? gone thru multiple revisions now..`
`14:03.42`	`Adirelle`	`cncfanatics: np`
`14:03.45`	`edv`	`it works when switching themes but that gets kinda tiresome to do everytime i login`
`14:04.28`	`Sairen`	`nevcairiel: mh k, i'll look into it`
`14:04.43`	`nevcairiel`	`the UI is already locked on AceEvent_FullyInitialized`
`14:04.54`	`Sairen`	`ah right, that's the prob then`
`14:04.56`	`nevcairiel`	`i moved the LoadPlugins call to OnEnable, and it worked ( for BT3 at least )`
`14:05.06`	`nevcairiel`	`but i am not sure if that causes problems with other bar addons`
`14:05.37`	`Sairen`	`yes, every addon that loads after cycircled won't get skinned then`
`14:05.48`	`Adirelle`	`nevcairiel: have you considered a "show on modifier" option for your bars ?`
`14:05.58`	`nevcairiel`	`isnt OnEnabled called after every addon is loaded ?`
`14:06.22`	`cncfanatics`	`nevcairiel, I do everything OnInitialize to be safe`
`14:06.28`	`nevcairiel`	`so do i`
`14:06.32`	`nevcairiel`	`well`
`14:06.38`	`Sairen`	`as far as I remember it didn't work that way (OnEnable)`
`14:06.39`	`nevcairiel`	`except soem stuff that doesnt work in OnInit`
`14:06.41`	`nevcairiel`	`like scanning stances`
`14:07.41`	`nevcairiel`	`Adirelle: ive heard the request before, but didnt have any time to think about it`
`14:08.02`	`Adirelle`	`nevcairiel: oki :)`
`14:08.43`	`nevcairiel`	`anyway, afk`
`14:10.11`	`mexicaan`	`does agUF still not support party pet frames?`
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`14:14.04`	`nymbia`	`what in the..`
`14:14.15`	`nymbia`	`[Cu]Nimloth: :(`
`14:14.27`	`nymbia`	`it's getting harder every day to update stuff on curse`
`14:14.41`	`kebinusan`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:15.04`	`Hjalte`	`Wobin: You aware of this error? http://ace.pastey.net/5003`
`14:15.25`	`nymbia`	`the links to the projects on my account page now point to 'edit project'.. >.<`
`14:15.26`	`Wobin`	`oh yeah =\`
`14:15.33`	`Wobin`	`I just don't have time this weekend to fix it`
`14:16.07`	`Trancer`	`hmhm.. current ag_UF on Downloadpage is broken`
`14:16.10`	`Trancer`	`or well, one of the externals is`
`14:16.13`	`Hjalte`	`Wobin: np, it seems heyfu works anyway :)`
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`14:24.08`	`echos`	`WTB BigWigs module for Highlord Kruul /9http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=18338)`
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`14:24.25`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: somehow manufac still seems to have issues when it comes to enchanting. other professions (first aid & cooking in my case) work fine`
`14:25.17`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: hmm. enchanting was the one that i got it to reproduce on... try /manufac reset, then reload your ui and see if it's still doing it`
`14:25.43`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: will try it, thx.`
`14:26.40`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: didn't work, second level menus are still empty.`
`14:26.45`	`Matrix110`	`not a good idea to make 2.0.4 dl via the client...`
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`14:27.14`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: ok, one sec`
`14:27.38`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: btw, german client, if that's of any help.`
`14:28.04`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: shouldnt make a difference. unless you're getting any errors?`
`14:28.56`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: no errors at all, just empty menus`
`14:30.41`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: hit /manufac debug then mouse over it again, what's it say right before "line 681"?`
`14:31.59`	`Hjalte`	`kagaro: Getting this error on startup :) http://ace.pastey.net/5006`
`14:33.59`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: probably I miss something, there's no debug output saying "line 681", I just get output like "sub menu started" "starting second level"`
`14:34.39`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: does it have any enchanting spells names in the debug output??`
`14:34.49`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: none.`
`14:35.46`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: when refreshing the enchanting submenu theres an enormous scroll of numbers looking like item-ids.`
`14:36.00`	`kebinusan`	`nymbia: mrplow works like a charm now`
`14:39.02`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: hm. would you mind grabbing a screenshot of the debug lines when you've hovered over an enchanting category (any of em other than Can Make)?`
`14:39.06`	`nymbia`	`kebinusan: great :D`
`14:39.30`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: no problem at all, but it's only 4 lines, I could also type them here ;-)`
`14:40.13`	`Saraphim`	`I simply can't make cartographer import work. It doesn't seem to import -anything-`
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`14:41.26`	`Chinku_`	`nymbia: hovering over one of the empty categories: "sub menu started" - "sub menu complete" - "menu started Armschienen nil nil nil" - "starting second level" - that's all.`
`14:41.32`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: ok ;)`
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`14:45.25`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r24945 10Manufac/Manufac.lua: Manufac: More debugs for missing data problems.`
`14:45.49`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: should have one more line with that version`
`14:47.07`	`Chinku_`	`nymbia: is reloading UI sufficient to update to that version or do you think I should quit the game and delete SV file beforehand?`
`14:47.20`	`nymbia`	`Chinku_: reloading is enough`
`14:47.24`	`Chinku_`	`k`
`14:48.32`	`Adirelle`	`hunters using chronomter here ?`
`14:49.11`	`Adirelle`	`nobody ?`
`14:49.13`	`Saraphim`	`Yes Adirella`
`14:49.18`	`Saraphim`	`Adirelle* even`
`14:49.42`	`Adirelle`	`i'm adding feed pet and ferocious inspiration`
`14:49.53`	`Saraphim`	`Wonderful!`
`14:50.22`	`Adirelle`	`and I wonder if it will be useful to add autoshot cooldown and/or intimidation`
`14:50.31`	`Saraphim`	`Personally I'd enjoy both.`
`14:50.48`	`Saraphim`	`Event hough the autoshot cd should probably be optional?`
`14:50.48`	`Chinku_`	`nymbia: now the 4 lines posted earlier are followed by a reference to line 656 and an enchanting recipe is mentioned, too.`
`14:51.19`	`Adirelle`	`saraphim... there is nothing optional in chronometer`
`14:51.23`	`Adirelle`	`that's why I'm asking`
`14:51.38`	`Adirelle`	`i think intimidation is a must`
`14:51.45`	`Adirelle`	`but autohost...`
`14:51.45`	`Saraphim`	`Definitely.`
`14:51.50`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: is the enchanting recipe's name the exact same as the spell's name?`
`14:51.56`	`Saraphim`	`Some people might get annoyed by autoshot I'm afraid.`
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`14:51.58`	`Saraphim`	`Personally I'd love it`
`14:52.08`	`Adirelle`	`well... there is bigtrouble`
`14:52.17`	`Adirelle`	`for autoshot/aimed shot`
`14:52.33`	`Chinku_`	`nymbia: sry, what do you mean by "spell's name"?`
`14:52.35`	`Saraphim`	`POint.`
`14:52.36`	`Adirelle`	`and autoshot is a bit tricky to handle`
`14:52.46`	`Adirelle`	`cause aimed shot reset it`
`14:52.58`	`Saraphim`	`Yes. But I believe someone has already done this`
`14:53.03`	`Saraphim`	`Perhaps you could take a peek at that code`
`14:53.15`	`nymbia`	`Chinku_: like, if you disable manufac and open the enchanting window.. is the name listed there the exact same as the one in that debug message?`
`14:54.23`	`Chinku_`	`nymbia: ah, I see. mompl`
`14:54.33`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r24946 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: fixed typo`
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`14:56.07`	`Chinku_`	`nymbia: yes it is exactly the same`
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`14:58.56`	`groll`	`who makes clearfont now again`
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`14:59.39`	`nymbia`	`Chinku_: ok. do /print AceLibrary("Stitch-1.0").data.Verzauberkunst[1]`
`14:59.47`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: er, no.`
`14:59.53`	`nymbia`	`Chinku_: ok. do /print AceLibrary("Stitch-1.0").data.Verzauberkunst[2]`
`15:02.03`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: ehm... the result is: "[string "AceLibrary('AceConsole-2.0'):PrintLiteral(A..."] line1: attempt to index field 'Verzauberkunst' (a nil value)"`
`15:02.43`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: have you opened you enchanting window since you last reloaded your ui? and is manufac enabled?`
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`15:04.09`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: ah, the enchanting menu hadn't been opened before. now the /print expression yields "nil".`
`15:04.58`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: that.. shouldn't happen. open and close your enchanting window a couple times then re-do the print, just to be sure.`
`15:05.17`	`Adirelle`	`CIA-17 seems laggy*`
`15:05.26`	`CIA-17`	`ow`
`15:05.26`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: with manufac active I suppose?`
`15:05.35`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: either way`
`15:05.45`	`CIA-17`	`ow`
`15:05.46`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: well, yeah. with manufac active ;)`
`15:06.07`	`Adirelle`	`grmpf... can it eat commit logs ?`
`15:06.24`	`nymbia`	`Adirelle: if it feels like it, sure`
`15:06.25`	`Chinku`	`Chinku: ok, but still "nil".`
`15:06.43`	`Adirelle`	`Nymbia: so it did then`
`15:08.20`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: has enchanting always been messed up for you?`
`15:09.34`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: nope. some revisions back it worked just fine, just having the minor flaws I posted on the forums`
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`15:10.20`	`kagaro`	`nymbia: what is the tradeskill set you have in pt-3?`
`15:10.38`	`nymbia`	`kagaro: there's a few of 'em ;)`
`15:10.42`	`KarlThePagan`	`oh kagaro - cartographer issue`
`15:11.02`	`KarlThePagan`	`my mining notes don't dissappear when I get close anymore ;(`
`15:11.37`	`kagaro`	`KarlThePagan: are you getting any bugsac errors?`
`15:11.47`	`KarlThePagan`	`nope, lemme update and try again`
`15:12.14`	`kagaro`	`nymbia: are they localized ?`
`15:12.30`	`kagaro`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:12.56`	`Fisker-`	`Noone gotten any notes for eversong woods/ghostlands?`
`15:13.05`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: it doesnt make any sense for stitch to not be getting that data, then :( did they change the text in the title bar of the enchanting window to something other than "Verzauberkunst"?`
`15:13.23`	`nymbia`	`kagaro: it's all based on itemid, so automatic localization.`
`15:13.49`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: no, they didn't.`
`15:14.58`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: well, i need to get some sleep. i'll put together a copy of stitch with some debugging output later today so we can track this down.`
`15:16.02`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: just one info: after switching manufac to standby and re-enabling it, refreshing the profession menus throws a bug...`
`15:16.14`	`nymbia`	`what's the error?`
`15:16.43`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: AddOns\Manufac\libs\Stitch-1.0\Stitch-1.0.lua line 230: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)`
`15:18.14`	`Gngsk`	`got one of those from hemlock just now`
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`15:19.03`	`Wogroipl`	`I know this isn't exactly an addon question, but is someone else's WoW sound stopped working after the patch?`
`15:19.08`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: hmm.. that's probably just caused by the main problem here.`
`15:19.14`	`nymbia`	`Gngsk: how do you mean?`
`15:20.00`	`Gngsk`	`oh, one of those index field '?'`
`15:20.08`	`nymbia`	`ah ;)`
`15:20.13`	`Gngsk`	`nothing to do with your addon :P`
`15:21.05`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: something's weird about that. I'lll play with it a little further and perhaps be able to give you a description of what it does later. somehow there's also a "Cannot unregister event "TRADE_SKILL_SHOW"" error in some cases... o.O`
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`15:21.36`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24949 10Prat/PratFu.lua:`
`15:21.36`	`CIA-17`	`Prat: Locals fixups`
`15:21.36`	`CIA-17`	`Issue : 41`
`15:21.40`	`KarlThePagan`	`kagaro, no updates for carto since I noticed the issue`
`15:21.48`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: weird...`
`15:22.02`	`kagaro`	`hmm ok, ill have a look`
`15:22.26`	`trh`	`any idea why the texture is green? path and filename should be correct - http://ace.pastey.net/5008`
`15:22.34`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: indeed. ;-)`
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`15:24.25`	`CIA-17`	`03cncfanatics * r24950 10FlexBar2/ (ButtonInterface.lua Core.lua FlexBar2.toc Libs/):`
`15:24.25`	`CIA-17`	`FlexBar2: Basic coding layout is set, and all core functions are working.`
`15:24.25`	`CIA-17`	`No Slashcommands or GUI yet`
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`15:25.53`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r24951 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarClass.lua: Bartender3: improved support for the petbar`
`15:27.21`	`nymbia`	`Chinku: erase the contents of Stitch-1.0.lua and replace it with this: http://ace.pastey.net/5009 and let me know what it prints out. thanks a lot, and talk to you later :)`
`15:28.06`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: you're welcome, cu`
`15:28.06`	`CIA-17`	`03cncfanatics * r24953 10FlexBar2/ (5 files): FlexBar2: Deleted Depricated files and added new ones`
`15:31.58`	`CIA-17`	`03pettigrow * r24954 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs):`
`15:31.58`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`15:31.58`	`CIA-17`	`- Babble-Boss-2.2.lua/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: frFR Update (2.0.3)`
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`15:32.31`	`kagaro`	`KarlThePagan: do you have mineral tracking on ?`
`15:32.39`	`KarlThePagan`	`yes`
`15:32.54`	`kagaro`	`hmm i wonder if they renamed the tracking texture in the last patch`
`15:33.13`	`Panye`	`where can I find oCB these days?`
`15:33.24`	`kagaro`	`let me see if I see it too 1 sec`
`15:33.47`	`steino`	`http://wowace.com/files/oCB/`
`15:34.06`	`KarlThePagan`	`oh kagaro this might be interesting`
`15:34.22`	`KarlThePagan`	`works after reloading with treasure tracking enabled`
`15:34.39`	`KarlThePagan`	`i mean mineral tracking`
`15:34.46`	`kagaro`	`KarlThePagan: hmmm`
`15:35.03`	`KarlThePagan`	`bah... lemme make sure i have repro steps`
`15:36.03`	`KarlThePagan`	`hmm... nope`
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`15:36.53`	`KarlThePagan`	`you might be right... could be user error :P`
`15:36.59`	`Panye`	`thanks steino`
`15:37.24`	`KarlThePagan`	`I do have a feature request tho ;) when I gain the "Longsight" buff (spyglass) <3 if minimap notes went away temporarily`
`15:38.05`	`kagaro`	`KArlThePagan: I cant reproduce the error, it always shows the tracking circle for me`
`15:38.16`	`KarlThePagan`	`k kagaro if I find a repro i'll let you know`
`15:38.23`	`kagaro`	`thanks`
`15:39.46`	`kagaro`	`I am re-writing Talismonger to be a swiss armry knife for gathering professions onces its working ill change cart mining, fishing, herbs to use it to determine when something is looted, skill,etc`
`15:39.49`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r24955 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-koKR.lua:`
`15:39.49`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames :`
`15:39.49`	`CIA-17`	`- Update locale koKR`
`15:39.50`	`CIA-17`	`03totalpackage * r24956 10Cellular/ (. Cellular.toc):`
`15:39.50`	`CIA-17`	`Cellular`
`15:39.50`	`CIA-17`	`- initial commit`
`15:40.32`	`Gngsk`	`Cellular eh?`
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`15:41.27`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r24957 10Bartender3/ (4 files): Bartender3: removed build-in cooldown count because it bugged and ate performance, i recommend OmniCC as a replacement.`
`15:42.15`	`Panye`	`nevcairiel: noooo :P`
`15:43.00`	`sylvanaar`	`need a tester or 2 for wau 1.7 PST`
`15:43.19`	`Panye`	`OmniCC is that Ace2?`
`15:43.20`	`Adsum`	`sylvanaar, what is it?`
`15:43.30`	`sylvanaar`	`wau?`
`15:43.34`	`Adsum`	`yeah`
`15:43.44`	`Panye`	`wowaceupdater`
`15:43.47`	`nevcairiel`	`Panye: no its not, but its a real simple addon and doesnt need to be Ace2 to work perfectly.`
`15:44.06`	`Panye`	`available from curse??`
`15:44.07`	`Adsum`	`ah`
`15:44.13`	`Matrix110`	`wowinterface/curse`
`15:44.25`	`OvrLrd-Q`	`it does work pretty nice :)`
`15:44.26`	`Panye`	`nice one`
`15:44.43`	`sylvanaar`	`i use it too`
`15:44.59`	`nevcairiel`	`finally i got rid of those stupid workaround for pet cooldowns`
`15:45.05`	`Saraphim`	`Does anyone have any experience with the mod "Cartographer Import"?`
`15:45.12`	`nevcairiel`	`i used it once`
`15:45.25`	`Saraphim`	`You got it to work?`
`15:45.29`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah`
`15:45.35`	`Saraphim`	`May I ask how?`
`15:45.35`	`Teazle`	`grrr, dont like being disced when trying to link stuff from KCi's linkview :(`
`15:45.37`	`ssm_`	`Saraphim: Yes, I've installed it, but it doesn't appear to do anything useful`
`15:45.50`	`Saraphim`	`ssm_: Same problem here.`
`15:46.01`	`Panye`	`yeah had a few bugs with that before Nevcairiel, nice work on the fixes`
`15:46.01`	`nevcairiel`	`load cartographer, cartographer import, and gatherer at the same time`
`15:46.03`	`nevcairiel`	`ant it will import`
`15:46.08`	`nevcairiel`	`*and`
`15:46.12`	`Saraphim`	`I'll give that a try, brb.`
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`15:46.27`	`Chinku`	`nevcairiel: but only for english clients ATM, or did I miss sth?`
`15:46.33`	`Leitwolf`	`hi folks :)`
`15:46.33`	`nevcairiel`	`could be`
`15:46.36`	`nevcairiel`	`not sure`
`15:46.37`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`15:47.46`	`CIA-17`	`03Heron * r24958 10FuBar_HerbTrackerFu/ (3 files): FuBar_HerbTrackerFu - Added cross-char DB`
`15:47.55`	`Gngsk`	`grennon, ping`
`15:48.14`	`Saraphim`	`nevcairiel: Tried that now, it said "notes imported" or something to that extent, but it didn't actually import a single note.`
`15:48.17`	`Saraphim`	`grins`
`15:49.05`	`Saraphim`	`Very strange.`
`15:49.14`	`Saraphim`	`Perhaps my version of Gatherer is incompatible.`
`15:49.22`	`nevcairiel`	`i didnt even install gatherer`
`15:49.29`	`nevcairiel`	`i only loaded my old gatherer saved variables`
`15:49.33`	`nevcairiel`	`not sure which version that was :D`
`15:49.38`	`Saraphim`	`How did you do that?`
`15:50.02`	`nevcairiel`	`i used that gatherbook tool, created a savedvariables file with that`
`15:50.11`	`nevcairiel`	`and added the filename to the carto import .toc file`
`15:50.24`	`Saraphim`	`Ahh.`
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`15:50.57`	`Saraphim`	`But since gatherer and the gatherer data loads for me, that probably wouldn't work. Hmmn.`
`15:51.04`	`Saraphim`	`I want my herb locations! cries`
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`15:51.24`	`Skew`	`where do i unzip WowAceUpdater?`
`15:51.37`	`nevcairiel`	`anywhere`
`15:51.44`	`nevcairiel`	`and everywhere`
`15:51.49`	`Chinku`	`I still feel like it's not going to import anything on non-english clients due to that silly zone translation tables gatherer uses... -.-`
`15:52.04`	`nevcairiel`	`get the english language pack`
`15:52.05`	`nevcairiel`	`import`
`15:52.08`	`nevcairiel`	`and switch back`
`15:52.08`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`15:52.15`	`Saraphim`	`Chinku: Possible, but I have an English client, and it doesn't work.`
`15:52.27`	`Skew`	`how do i start it then?`
`15:52.29`	`nee-lap`	`Does anyone here have the problem of staying in the battleground group after leaving the battleground?`
`15:52.33`	`Skew`	`i don't know what an sln file is :S`
`15:52.38`	`nevcairiel`	`nee-lap: yea`
`15:52.46`	`nee-lap`	`ok`
`15:52.52`	`nee-lap`	`Then it's not just me`
`15:52.54`	`nevcairiel`	`Skew: you downloaded the source code?`
`15:53.22`	`nevcairiel`	`i hoped that 2.0.4 fixed that bug`
`15:53.24`	`nevcairiel`	`but it didnt`
`15:53.26`	`nevcairiel`	`so, doh!`
`15:53.30`	`Skew`	`ups 8)`
`15:53.45`	`cynyr`	`did 2.0.4 fix anything?`
`15:53.45`	`nee-lap`	`indeed :\|`
`15:53.48`	`nee-lap`	`yes`
`15:53.57`	`nee-lap`	`some things in battlegrounds and the windtotems work again`
`15:53.58`	`nevcairiel`	`you can promote people agian`
`15:54.11`	`Chinku`	`Saraphim: yes, that was only a side-note.`
`15:54.26`	`nevcairiel`	`i think the staying-in-group bug only occurs when you are in a normal party, no raid.`
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`15:54.50`	`nevcairiel`	`but since i always join battlegrounds with 1 or 2 friends, we generally are in a party :o`
`15:55.00`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r24959 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files): ag_UnitFrames: This needs work, but /aguf should now be available if the addon is disabled.`
`15:55.01`	`cynyr`	`all i know is that 2.0.4 seemed to make my client run even shittier`
`15:55.25`	`Trancer`	`agUf also has an AceLocale bug`
`15:55.40`	`nee-lap`	`nevcairiel: same here. I play with my girlfriend and her sister and it's annoying to have to leave the group and re-form it`
`15:55.58`	`cynyr`	`nee-lap: sounds kinky`
`15:56.04`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`15:56.29`	`sbu`	`errr`
`15:56.35`	`sbu`	`what is "blizzard scan"?`
`15:56.38`	`Fisker-`	`Proceed`
`15:57.17`	`nee-lap`	`er`
`15:57.17`	`sbu`	`TBC Beta client wants to download - but fails`
`15:57.17`	`Fisker-`	`sbu keylogger/trojan/whatever-scan`
`15:57.17`	`nee-lap`	`I meant in-game ofcourse.`
`15:57.17`	`Fisker-`	`Bah`
`15:57.17`	`sbu`	`important?`
`15:57.17`	`nevcairiel`	`sbu: its their hack-tool-detection`
`15:57.18`	`Fisker-`	`This isn't relevant to my interests anymore`
`15:57.18`	`sbu`	`any problems if it couldnt be loaded?`
`15:57.18`	`nevcairiel`	`dunno`
`15:57.18`	`sbu`	`hm`
`15:57.19`	`nevcairiel`	`see and find out`
`15:57.19`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`15:57.20`	`sbu`	`and where can i get it? :o`
`15:57.22`	`sbu`	`gnnnl :o`
`15:57.57`	`Trancer`	`where in the SVN can I find AceLocale-2.2?`
`15:58.24`	`Trancer`	`oh got it, in Ace2`
`15:58.31`	`sbu`	`ah worked`
`15:59.22`	`Trancer`	`the current packaged version of ag_UF on wowace.com/files/ is broken, the AceLocale didn't copy fully to it`
`15:59.38`	`nevcairiel`	`whats more important to know, if your target is out of range for that cast, or if you have enough mana for that cast?`
`15:59.50`	`Teazle`	`anyone else having screwed up icons in ebb and aguf? possibly other addons too?`
`15:59.57`	`Trancer`	`nevcairiel: range first, then mana`
`15:59.59`	`Teazle`	`uhm, suppose i should check svn first`
`16:00.21`	`nevcairiel`	`thats what i think too, but some people requested to give mana the priority`
`16:00.42`	`Trancer`	`I think the range is more important, goes for more classes`
`16:00.45`	`Fisker-`	`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=114831484&sid=1 <-lol`
`16:00.45`	`kovi`	`Teazle, happens when you tab out while loading`
`16:00.49`	`Trancer`	`(all)`
`16:00.52`	`kovi`	`if you don't tab out it's fine`
`16:00.53`	`Trancer`	`where mana only goes for the casters`
`16:01.11`	`nevcairiel`	`mana would be rage or energy in that case as well`
`16:01.13`	`nevcairiel`	`i think`
`16:01.13`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`16:01.17`	`Trancer`	`oh :)`
`16:01.27`	`Trancer`	`humpf :p`
`16:01.32`	`Teazle`	`well thats just a load of bull, didnt happen before :( oh well, guess ill have to live with it :)`
`16:01.54`	`nevcairiel`	`Teazle: try updating your graphics card drivers`
`16:02.00`	`nevcairiel`	`its a some-what known bug`
`16:02.42`	`Teazle`	`have the latest, havent happened prior to 2.0.4`
`16:03.10`	`Saraphim`	`Same here Teazle.`
`16:03.12`	`Saraphim`	`Very strange.`
`16:03.20`	`Saraphim`	`Only relogging works for me.`
`16:03.30`	`Saraphim`	`Dragging them around clears it too though.`
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`16:06.34`	`cynyr`	`is it possable to make any bliz frame movable?`
`16:07.33`	`Trancer`	`nevcairiel: but in general I think range is more important`
`16:07.40`	`Trancer`	`nevcairiel: so many addons warning for low mana anyway`
`16:07.42`	`Trancer`	`SCT etc.`
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`16:09.45`	`cynyr`	`these wowaddons have a decently steep learning curve...`
`16:09.48`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r24960 10ChatHighlighter/ChatHighlighter.lua:`
`16:09.48`	`CIA-17`	`ChatHighlighter:`
`16:09.49`	`CIA-17`	`- Moved menu colors to variables`
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`16:15.05`	`vhaarr`	`~seen nymbia`
`16:15.41`	`purl`	`nymbia <n=nymbia@71-33-216-92.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 48m 20s ago, saying: 'Chinku: erase the contents of Stitch-1.0.lua and replace it with this: http://ace.pastey.net/5009 and let me know what it prints out. thanks a lot, and talk to you later :)'.`
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`16:16.25`	`Saraphim`	`Does anyone know how to make cartographer import actually import from Gatherer? I can't get it to work with the latest versions.`
`16:16.53`	`kagaro`	`has anyone tried using a mote extractor?`
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`16:17.47`	`cynyr`	`ACELIB has functions to create minimap icons?`
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`16:18.00`	`vhaarr`	`"ACELIB"?`
`16:18.09`	`vhaarr`	`If you mean AceLibrary, then no.`
`16:18.26`	`cynyr`	`vhaarr: i'm trying to find en example of how do do one..`
`16:18.40`	`vhaarr`	`cynyr: FuBarPlugin-2.0 creates minimap icons.`
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`16:19.11`	`clad\|sleep`	`cynyr: Gello has a really simple library on wowinterface that does just thaty`
`16:19.13`	`clad\|sleep`	`and only thaty`
`16:20.16`	`Tular`	`Whats the best mass mailer?`
`16:20.19`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r24961 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2: added extract gas spell`
`16:20.20`	`clad\|sleep`	`i'm just hunting for it atm`
`16:20.30`	`cynyr`	`Tular: i like bulkmail`
`16:20.58`	`cynyr`	`clad\|sleep: hmm although thats not quite what i want, i'm wanting to make the bliz mail icon movable`
`16:21.11`	`cynyr`	`and square minimap aware`
`16:21.19`	`clad\|sleep`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4686-MyMinimapButton.html`
`16:21.23`	`clad\|sleep`	`ah hrm`
`16:21.27`	`clad\|sleep`	`well thats a different story =)`
`16:22.02`	`evl`	`Is there NO other source of API documentation other than WoWwiki?`
`16:22.08`	`KarlThePagan`	`ckknight, ping`
`16:22.21`	`clad\|basketball`	`evl: The default UI's code, which is where most of the wiki comes directly from`
`16:22.29`	`clad\|basketball`	`the lua code is quite self-documenting in most cases =)`
`16:22.33`	`KarlThePagan`	`hehe`
`16:22.53`	`evl`	`Anyone have 2.0.4 Pachnotes?`
`16:23.03`	`clad\|basketball`	`evl: They are on the wiki`
`16:23.13`	`clad\|basketball`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/2.0.4`
`16:23.14`	`cynyr`	`clad\|basketball: yea.. i was mostly looking for how to deal with the frame.xml for that. and how to make a bliz frame always hidden or movable...`
`16:23.31`	`kebinusan`	`www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes`
`16:25.31`	`KarlThePagan`	`hmmm so I want to refresh my fubar menu from inside an OnEvent`
`16:25.39`	`KarlThePagan`	`Dewdrop:Refresh isn't doin it`
`16:26.23`	`vhaarr`	`Dewdrop:Refresh(1) ?`
`16:27.15`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea doesn't do it`
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`16:27.51`	`evl`	`Where can I read about RegisterForEvent(?`
`16:27.55`	`KarlThePagan`	`i click "update" and a couple ms later the LFGQuery response comes back and i populate my AceOptionsTable`
`16:28.23`	`KarlThePagan`	`hmm oo maybe i messed up the order ;)`
`16:29.23`	`Tular`	`Whats the best mass mailer?`
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`16:29.53`	`KarlThePagan`	`Postal`
`16:30.04`	`KarlThePagan`	`;) will be`
`16:30.53`	`KarlThePagan`	`vhaarr, yea :Refresh(1) doesn't do it... my order was ok`
`16:30.59`	`odt`	`anyone got the mining node data for eversong woods?`
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`16:31.59`	`Tular`	`Postal have mass mailing? I dont see it`
`16:32.01`	`ilifin`	`so indulge me people, how do I mass mail with postal`
`16:32.05`	`Tular`	`just downloaded it`
`16:32.07`	`ilifin`	`.. scary Tular`
`16:32.08`	`ilifin`	`:/`
`16:32.44`	`KarlThePagan`	`honestly i haven't used it yet ;)`
`16:32.58`	`KarlThePagan`	`but i know gennon is workin on it pretty hard`
`16:33.42`	`Tular`	`i also downloaded Postman, and cant tell what it does`
`16:33.44`	`Tular`	`lol`
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`16:35.19`	`Azurewrath`	`mhm... anyone having the problem that oCB does not show and that there is a blank bar in the upper left corner?`
`16:35.39`	`Azurewrath`	`appeared after i updated all mods ~5 minutes ago...`
`16:37.15`	`nee-lap`	`Mass mailing can not be done yet`
`16:37.20`	`nee-lap`	`only bulkmail can so far`
`16:37.23`	`nee-lap`	`I think`
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`16:40.16`	`Azurewrath`	`mhm.. a blank bar which i can move with alt.. appeared today.. what could that be? :)`
`16:40.16`	`cynyr`	`is there some app(linux support would be nice) the emulates the basic environment of wow so i can play with frames and the like and not actully be in game?`
`16:40.38`	`cynyr`	`s/the/that/`
`16:41.02`	`cynyr`	`bad purl`
`16:41.10`	`cynyr`	`s/the /that /`
`16:41.13`	`haste`	`purl does what you tell him`
`16:41.26`	`cynyr`	`haste: i know i saw my sed mistake`
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`16:44.23`	`Elkano`	`ok, checking out latest 24h updates broke my UI :/`
`16:44.40`	`cynyr`	`if i made a frame called "hello123" and then in a macro did, "/script hello123:show()" would it show that frame?`
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`16:45.17`	`trh`	`cynyr: if hello123 is a <frame> yes`
`16:46.13`	`cynyr`	`trh: okay, thanks`
`16:46.48`	`Tular`	`ok, any addons that do bulk mailing`
`16:46.56`	`cynyr`	`Tular: bulkmail`
`16:47.07`	`kagaro`	`hmm seems i cant use embed on acelocale`
`16:47.11`	`trh`	`cynyr: basically you can see every gui thing as objects`
`16:47.20`	`Tular`	`so it mails a lot of things to one person`
`16:47.26`	`cynyr`	`Tular: yep`
`16:47.49`	`Tular`	`kk`
`16:48.02`	`Elkano`	`I hate patches ^^ allways forgetting to load outdated ^^`
`16:48.04`	`Tular`	`The addon I really need is to let you share friends list between toons`
`16:48.23`	`Ominous`	`is 2.04 a new toc?`
`16:48.38`	`nevcairiel`	`no`
`16:48.40`	`nevcairiel`	`still 20003`
`16:48.47`	`cynyr`	`Tular: it's not ace but i was using friendshare`
`16:48.59`	`Ominous`	`does anyone use JavaAceUpdater here and how does it compare with WAU`
`16:49.36`	`ilifin`	`Ominous, please add Riposte as a default timer to RogueTimerFu :<`
`16:49.40`	`\|Kev\|`	`as far as I know, WAU is the most featureful, with Java next and MAU probably last`
`16:49.43`	`Elkano`	`OK, I think I'll have to add a 3rd FuBar to my UI :/`
`16:49.45`	`\|Kev\|`	`but also afaik they all work fine`
`16:50.05`	`Trancer`	`Elkano: haha :p`
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`16:51.53`	`Ominous`	`ilifin: what does Riposte do again?`
`16:52.02`	`Elkano`	`well eg CorkFu is back so I need more room ^^`
`16:52.37`	`ilifin`	`Ominous - disarms a target`
`16:52.39`	`Gngsk`	`what's the new cork do? just buff queue?`
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`16:53.08`	`Ominous`	`ilifin: can you tell me the combat log message when it is successful and actually disarms the target`
`16:53.51`	`ilifin`	`actually, just adding self:AddRule("DOTs", "Riposte" ,{ time = 6}) to DOTs.lua works for me`
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`16:54.14`	`Ominous`	`that would work but not when the target resisted disarm or was immune`
`16:54.31`	`Ominous`	`as the bar would still show`
`16:54.31`	`ilifin`	`ohIsee`
`16:54.50`	`Ominous`	`ill add it anyway for the time being`
`16:54.50`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r24963 10CooldownCount/ (. CooldownCount.lua CooldownCount.toc):`
`16:54.50`	`CIA-17`	`CooldownCount:`
`16:54.50`	`CIA-17`	`- working with 2.0 now, since cooldowncount was removed from bartender3 :(`
`16:56.29`	`ilifin`	`Ominous - Your Riposte hits x for y. - still haven't had an immune or dodge or parry :p`
`16:56.33`	`Elkano`	`Gngsk, haven't tested, yet but even if it only reminds me it's fine :)`
`16:56.45`	`[dRaCo]`	`cdc was removed from bt3=`
`16:56.48`	`[dRaCo]`	`when?`
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`16:57.02`	`[dRaCo]`	`I updated like 2 hours ago and I still got cooldowns`
`16:57.29`	`SoLoR`	`[dRaCo] well today`
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`16:58.16`	`[dRaCo]`	`guess I'm gonna install cdc then... does it work with bt3?`
`16:58.31`	`SoLoR`	`(edit) @24957 [24957] 01/13/07 10:41:58 nevcairiel Bartender3: removed build-in cooldown count because it bugged and ate performance, i recommend OmniCC as a replacement.`
`16:58.38`	`SoLoR`	`ye it works`
`16:58.42`	`SoLoR`	`just tryed`
`16:58.43`	`[dRaCo]`	`k, great`
`16:59.46`	`[dRaCo]`	`cdc isn't yet tagged for 2.0, is it?`
`16:59.56`	`[dRaCo]`	`since it doesnt appear in the list`
`16:59.57`	`cynyr`	`ilifin: prot wars, and rogues with T2 gloves are immune to disarm`
`17:00.26`	`Fin`	`chillin' like ilin'!`
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`17:02.14`	`odt`	`is there a cartographer forum somewhere?`
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`17:04.11`	`beerke`	`wowace forums`
`17:04.12`	vid`	`yea`
`17:04.13`	vid`	`at wowace`
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`17:04.52`	`beerke`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?board=54.0`
`17:04.57`	`beerke`	`there you go :)`
`17:04.59`	`chris\|off`	`cynyr arms warrs maybe:)`
`17:05.25`	`cynyr`	`chris\|off: i forget which ones.. doesn't patter to me as long as they aren't mortal strike...`
`17:05.35`	`cynyr`	`matter`
`17:05.40`	`CIA-17`	`03ominous * r24964 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (Bars/DOTs.lua Core.lua): FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - Added Riposte`
`17:05.54`	`Tular`	`What Dep does BulkMail need? its not loading saying its missing something`
`17:06.02`	`Gngsk`	`Ace and AceGUI`
`17:06.42`	`Tular`	`so they dont embed that?`
`17:06.50`	`Gngsk`	`Ace isn't embedded`
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`17:07.56`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten-Laptop] by ChanServ`
`17:08.04`	`vhaarr`	`Ace2 is, Ace1 is not.`
`17:08.51`	`steev64`	`someone suggested capping over avbars the other day, so im trying it out - how do i send the times to the bg?`
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`17:09.15`	`cynyr`	`steev64: if you can.. i haven't figured that out...`
`17:10.28`	`nee-lap`	`you can't`
`17:10.30`	`Ominous`	`please can someone say my name`
`17:10.38`	`groll`	`Ominous`
`17:10.39`	`Tular`	`why not embed everything?`
`17:10.40`	`groll`	`:P`
`17:10.41`	`Barbanus`	`steev64, I think its ctrl+click`
`17:10.44`	`Ominous`	`groll: thanks`
`17:10.51`	`groll`	`np`
`17:10.52`	`nee-lap`	`you can? cool`
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`17:11.59`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`g'mornin guys`
`17:12.48`	`nee-lap`	`morning`
`17:13.05`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`hmm mornin kc`
`17:13.07`	`trh`	`"morning" kaelten ;)`
`17:13.15`	`odt`	`nice, managed to import all my gatherer mining data`
`17:13.23`	`odt`	`to cartographer ofc :)`
`17:13.34`	`evl`	`I'm writing a tiny non-Ace addon, which uses GetScreenWidth() for some calculations, my only problem is that when i print this from my core.lua file it returns different numbers when loading than later`
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`17:14.50`	`trh`	`evl: which values do u get?`
`17:15.02`	`evl`	`1288 and then a higher value`
`17:15.32`	`_neuron_`	`probably because of ui scale stuff (yes even if you dont have it enabled)`
`17:16.17`	`trh`	`evl: does the higher value make any sense?`
`17:16.19`	`evl`	`But how do I delay my code`
`17:16.28`	`evl`	`trh: the higher value is correct`
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`17:16.39`	`kagaro`	`ck: ping`
`17:16.42`	`evl`	`I haven't figured out how to use OnLoad in a lua-only addon`
`17:16.47`	`stratos`	`hi`
`17:17.22`	`trh`	`evl: i could imagine that it returns the width of the "loading" screen`
`17:17.31`	`evl`	`Probablyu`
`17:17.39`	`trh`	`evl: use <OnLoad> in a Frame`
`17:17.47`	`stratos`	`I have some questions about being a mirror`
`17:17.50`	`stratos`	`who can i talk too?`
`17:17.51`	`Tular`	`Is there anything else like bulkmail?`
`17:17.59`	`ilifin`	`Postal`
`17:18.07`	`evl`	`trh: can I use self.frame = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, UIParent) and then self.frame.SetScript("OnLoad" ...) instead? I'm trying to avoid an XML file`
`17:18.13`	`ilifin`	`mass mailing works a bit different, but the different is good imo`
`17:18.30`	`ilifin`	`Tular, type in the name of a reciptient for your items in the To: field, alt click an item, pow mail sent`
`17:18.41`	`trh`	`evl: i don't know, try it =)`
`17:18.43`	`ilifin`	`Tular, just keep repeating this process, it's the same deal only each time you alt click it sends a mail`
`17:18.50`	`trh`	`evl: if it doesn't use xml`
`17:18.56`	`beerke`	`hmm since when do we have PeriodicTable 3.0 ?`
`17:18.57`	`evl`	`xml is the devil!`
`17:19.07`	`CIA-17`	`03totalpackage * r24965 10StellarUF/ (StellarUF.toc powerwatch.lua):`
`17:19.07`	`CIA-17`	`StellarUF:`
`17:19.07`	`CIA-17`	`- minor toc update`
`17:19.20`	`trh`	`evl: sometimes its better than using createframe`
`17:19.31`	`evl`	`how so`
`17:19.55`	`trh`	`well i wouldn't like to create a big gui frame with everything with createframes`
`17:20.06`	`evl`	`this is a frame with a single FontString in it :)`
`17:20.07`	`evl`	`a clock!`
`17:20.07`	`evl`	`:D`
`17:20.08`	`Tular`	`ilifin: with bulkmail?`
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`17:20.38`	`Gngsk`	`hmm, capping can prolly get rid of the colored ampersands, since blizz added class icons to the score frame`
`17:20.48`	`ilifin`	`Tular - with Postal`
`17:21.35`	`sb__`	`yay`
`17:21.38`	`stratos`	`:/`
`17:21.42`	`sb__`	`TBC beta client + 2.0.4`
`17:21.48`	`sbu`	`works :)`
`17:22.01`	`beerke`	`trh, my gui si fully made with createframe and has tabs,scrollframes, sliders, checkboxes and all the works in it`
`17:22.22`	`beerke`	`if you set up a decent background structure then setting up a gui with createframe is not that hard`
`17:22.39`	`trh`	`beerke: sure, it's not hard, but with xml its easier and easier to edit/change`
`17:22.55`	`beerke`	`i find xml actually harder :)`
`17:23.03`	`beerke`	`i tend to loose the overview in there`
`17:23.11`	`trh`	`beerke: use a good xml editor :)`
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`17:23.26`	`stratos`	`sigh`
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`17:23.43`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r24966 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2: added prospecting spell`
`17:24.04`	`Tular`	`Is there anything ace2 addons that is like loothog?`
`17:24.24`	`ilifin`	`what did loothog do`
`17:24.39`	`Tular`	`tracks rolls`
`17:25.43`	`ilifin`	`think XLoot-mods do something like that`
`17:26.06`	`Wing87`	`is there any api to get the spellpower or resistance?`
`17:27.59`	`andremar`	`argh.. how can it be that addons are able to force wow to hardlock`
`17:28.08`	`trh`	`Wing87: UnitResistance, don't know about spellpower though`
`17:28.51`	`Wing87`	`ok tnx that will help me a bit atleast (=`
`17:29.23`	`vhaarr`	`andremar: Because you can do things like \|while true do --[[ noop ]] end\|`
`17:30.19`	`trh`	`Wing87: you may try UnitRangedATtackPower, maybe it is spellpower on mages, don't know`
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`17:31.07`	`andremar`	`vhaarr: bleh, it should be better protected :p`
`17:31.25`	`andremar`	`anyways, anyone else but me have serious trouble with Baggins, and esp chaning profile?`
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`17:36.42`	`Elkano`	`hmm... WoW isn't caching some items for me so I don't get their name or tooltip in tradeskill or vendor window... strange...`
`17:37.00`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r24967 10DKPmon/DKPmon.toc: DKPmon: toc update.`
`17:37.22`	`Wing87`	`ill tray it but well i dont think it would be the spell power cus a hunter got spellpower also and ranged attackpower`
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`17:38.07`	`Luthorhuss`	`Hai.. :)`
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`17:38.19`	Funkeh`	`hey all`
`17:38.31`	`Luthorhuss`	`i have a problem with my eepanels.. :(`
`17:38.57`	`nuOHEP`	`Wing87, GetSpellBonusDamage`
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`17:39.21`	`Luthorhuss`	`[2007/01/13 18:30:21-17-x1]: eePanels-1.0\guidePanel.lua:9: attempt to call method 'SetText' (a nil value)`
`17:39.21`	`Luthorhuss`	eePanels-1.0\core.lua:828: in function `ToggleLock'
`17:41.15`	`cynyr`	`bah why isn't my addon showing up in the list.... i have a .toc .xml and a .lua`
`17:41.39`	`Ominous`	`cycnyr: are the names identicle in addon folder and toc inc caps`
`17:41.40`	`Nightdew_`	`what is a comparable ace2 version of mobile frames?`
`17:42.02`	`trh`	`cynyr: did u restart the wow client?`
`17:42.09`	`cynyr`	`trh: yes`
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`17:42.30`	`cynyr`	`Ominous: the name exactly match except for the .xml .toc .lua`
`17:43.04`	`trh`	`cynyr: the .toc file must be named exactly as the addon folders name`
`17:43.16`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r24968 10Bidder/Bidder.toc: Bidder: toc update`
`17:43.21`	`Ominous`	`eg AddonNameIsGood\AddonNameIsGood.toc`
`17:43.31`	`trh`	`cynyr: and have lines ## Intreace: xa, ## Title: ...`
`17:43.40`	`Gngsk`	`AddonNameIsGood/TocNameIsBad.toc`
`17:43.49`	`cynyr`	`trh: Ominous: yep.`
`17:44.01`	`cynyr`	`trh: i have the 4 lines requried according to wowwiki`
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`17:44.19`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r24969 10Bidder_FCZS/Bidder_FCZS.toc: Bidder_FCZS: toc update`
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`17:44.24`	`trh`	`cynyr: are the file referenced in the .toc available and correct case?`
`17:44.32`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r24970 10Bidder_ZSumAuction/Bidder_ZSumAuction.toc: Bidder_ZSumAuction: toc update`
`17:44.49`	`cynyr`	`trh: yes`
`17:45.03`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r24971 10DKPmon_CSV/DKPmon_CSV.toc: DKPmon_CSV: toc update`
`17:45.33`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r24972 10DKPmon_eqDKP/DKPmon_eqDKP.toc: DKPmon_eqDKP: toc update`
`17:46.15`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r24973 10DKPmon_FCZS/DKPmon_FCZS.toc: DKPmon_FCZS: toc update`
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`17:46.46`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r24974 10DKPmon_ZSumAuction/DKPmon_ZSumAuction.toc: DKPmon_ZSumAuction: toc update`
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`17:47.16`	`CrisCrOss`	`whats a good chatmod?`
`17:47.30`	vid`	`prat`
`17:47.30`	`cynyr`	`CrisCrOss: prat is popular`
`17:48.19`	`CrisCrOss`	`is it me or is WowAceUpdater getting some madd bandwidth usage..`
`17:48.31`	`yacoob`	`although it grew quite big, comparing to idchat* stuff :D`
`17:49.01`	`vhaarr`	`SimpleChatMods ftw ^^`
`17:49.05`	`CrisCrOss`	`thing is i use minimalist and automaton but they kind of override each other in doing similar things`
`17:49.07`	`cynyr`	`anyone know if there is a way to disable that delay before the login promt is displayed?`
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`17:49.10`	`CrisCrOss`	`i wanna edit them`
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`17:50.15`	`cynyr`	`trh: okay, figured it out... stupid "##Title: some string that wasn't what i thought it would be"`
`17:50.38`	`trh`	`cynyr: happens to the best programmers ;)`
`17:51.21`	`cynyr`	`trh: if i have a <frame> and don't set a background image, is there default one for frames?`
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`17:52.46`	`Adirelle`	`which scripts of SecureActionButtonTemplate can be overriden without tainting it ?`
`17:53.39`	`CrisCrOss`	`os Prat an Ace mod?`
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`17:53.57`	`nee-lap`	`yes`
`17:54.05`	`CrisCrOss`	`yep found it: P`
`17:54.39`	`Adirelle`	`anyone ?`
`17:55.09`	`Adirelle`	`link maybe ?`
`17:55.09`	`cynyr`	`nope.. i'm lucky my addon showed up in the list :P`
`17:55.39`	`sylvanaar`	`what makes TheShado html index on for \files`
`17:55.47`	`sylvanaar`	`what makes The html index on for \files`
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`17:56.47`	`Saraphim`	`Does anyone know how to make cartographer import actually import from Gatherer? I can't get it to work with the latest versions.`
`17:56.58`	`sylvanaar`	`oh looks like asp`
`17:57.29`	`cynyr`	`sylvanaar: probably a small php script, or a lighthttpd/apache module`
`17:58.33`	`Chinku`	`Saraphim: i've seen a FAQ somewhere stating that you need to have gatherer 2.2.3.1 loaded - did you try using exactly that version?`
`17:59.18`	`cynyr`	`WOOT!! i made a fram on show popup a message!!`
`17:59.37`	`cynyr`	`frame`
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`18:02.09`	`Mikma`	`http://www.funpic.hu/files/pics/00031/00031322.jpg`
`18:02.30`	`cynyr`	`Mikma: if thats gotse/lemonparty/tubgirl....`
`18:02.46`	`Mikma`	`so what if it is`
`18:02.49`	`sylvanaar`	`whoa, it looks like its coming down encoded`
`18:03.15`	`cynyr`	`Mikma: lol, someone has too much time on there hands and access to photoshop/GIMP`
`18:04.03`	`sylvanaar`	`gzipped`
`18:05.55`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`is there an Ace equivelent of Auctioneer?`
`18:05.55`	`Mikma`	`http://www.funpic.hu/files/pics/00029/00029789.jpg`
`18:06.04`	`CrisCrOss`	`hey guys quickquestion, with Prat can i remove !stopTheSpam`
`18:06.17`	`CrisCrOss`	`im assuminig AddonMessages - Toggles showing hidden addon messages on and off (default=off).`
`18:06.20`	`CrisCrOss`	`is the same as StopTheSpam`
`18:06.28`	`cynyr`	`EvilGrin\|Win: KCI_Items`
`18:06.53`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`cynyr, thanks.`
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`18:07.12`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`CrisCrOss, no my understanding is that it allows you to see the hidden addon com channel.`
`18:07.15`	`sylvanaar`	`intellitext.com what is that`
`18:07.48`	`CrisCrOss`	`really..`
`18:07.53`	`sylvanaar`	`um ok`
`18:08.04`	`CIA-17`	`03shadmar * r24975 10GridStatusHots/ (GridStatusHots.lua GridStatusHots.toc): GridStatusHots : Added total HoT count for all cleaned up after sayclub broke it.`
`18:08.17`	`CrisCrOss`	`can anyone verify this..`
`18:11.23`	`sylvanaar`	`IntelliTXT is a third-party technology created and distributed through Vibrant Media Incorporated, developed to locate words & word phrases found within text and link them to relevant commercial information. IntelliTXT is identified with a double-underline and all corresponding text ads are clearly marked with "Advertisement" or "Sponsored Link".`
`18:11.46`	`CrisCrOss`	`i hate that`
`18:11.53`	`CrisCrOss`	`Wowace forums have it`
`18:11.58`	`CrisCrOss`	`im glad admuncher blocks them`
`18:13.26`	`cynyr`	`etc`
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`18:13.39`	`Mikma`	`http://www.funpic.hu/files/pics/00004/00004121.jpg`
`18:15.12`	`CrisCr0ss`	`i like how the WowAce forums is getting a little more organized`
`18:15.17`	`Benumbed`	`sweet, formated pc and forgot svn pwd =x`
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`18:15.48`	`CrisCr0ss`	`maybe make subforums for example Unitframs/Inventory/interface/action bars`
`18:16.18`	`Srosh`	`that gets too fragmented`
`18:16.32`	`CrisCr0ss`	`but its easier to search for things that way..`
`18:18.17`	`CrisCr0ss`	`I have a question regarding the file !StopTheSpam`
`18:18.17`	`CrisCr0ss`	`it seems not all addon load spam is actually blocked a few actually find their way in`
`18:21.30`	`CrisCr0ss`	`..`
`18:23.13`	`CrisCr0ss`	`~seen Grennon`
`18:24.09`	`purl`	`grennon is currently on #wowace (21h 47m 52s). Has said a total of 158 messages. Is idling for 9h 30m 40s, last said: 'they do innovate even if i dont like the quality/usablity'.`
`18:24.09`	`CrisCr0ss`	`!Seen grennon`
`18:24.12`	`Adirelle`	`~FrameXML`
`18:24.27`	`purl`	`get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip`
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`18:24.58`	`Adirelle`	`I know someone have a non corrupted version`
`18:25.06`	`Adirelle`	`but I can't remember who`
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`18:25.17`	`Adirelle`	`renchap ?`
`18:25.29`	`CrisCr0ss`	`Adirelle: do you use StoptheSpam`
`18:25.35`	`Adirelle`	`no`
`18:25.51`	`Adirelle`	`~addonkit.zip`
`18:26.04`	`renchap`	`yup ?`
`18:26.28`	`Adirelle`	`Didn't have you a copy of the addonkit.zip for live ?`
`18:26.51`	`renchap`	`nop, sorry`
`18:27.15`	`Adirelle`	`erf`
`18:27.18`	`grzesieq`	`did they change the razorgore fight?`
`18:27.53`	`grzesieq`	`hmm`
`18:27.56`	`grzesieq`	`the adds kept spawning`
`18:28.07`	`CrisCr0ss`	`anyone know if MountMe is updated..`
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`18:34.38`	`Hjalte`	`criscross: mountme works for me`
`18:34.40`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`grzesieq no, you are in a bugged instance`
`18:34.49`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`we did him normally yesterday`
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`18:40.37`	`Nayon`	`Before a few servers were reporting Razorgore stage 2 was bugged as in everything respawns except him, but when he died to eithe ryou or eggs there was still loot on him`
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`18:43.21`	`kagaro`	`anyone use LOOT_SLOT_CLEARED event ?`
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`18:44.52`	`Hjalte`	`Author of eepanels online?`
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`18:45.54`	`IsoLnCHiP`	`Hi. Im looking for a way to get rid of most minimap buttons. Any ideas? just about ever ace mod has one, and it just gets too crowded`
`18:46.17`	`Nayon`	`You mean FuBar Addons on you're Minimap?`
`18:46.18`	`Hjalte`	`IsoLnCHiP: Get Fubar.`
`18:47.31`	`IsoLnCHiP`	`Hjalte, isnt that just a status bar?`
`18:47.59`	`Hjalte`	`IsoLnCHiP: Yes, it is a bar in the top of the screen, as titan, but it will move most of the minimap icons there ;)`
`18:48.09`	`Nayon`	`IsoLnCHiP: It does Status things but everything in Ace usualy has code to dispaly their addon info their as well`
`18:48.10`	`IsoLnCHiP`	`Nayon, No, I mean the little buttons that get put around the minimap by many addons`
`18:48.10`	`haarm`	`most ace addons that add a minimap button, will use fubar instead if its available`
`18:48.35`	`Nayon`	`Lets say you have, Prat the chat addon`
`18:48.57`	`IsoLnCHiP`	`Ahh, ok, sounds like a good idea then.`
`18:49.02`	`Nayon`	`Other than typiny /Prat or using the Minimap Icon you get a dropdown list via FuBar`
`18:49.08`	`Gngsk`	`'hide plugin' voila`
`18:49.15`	`Nayon`	`That Too!`
`18:49.59`	`trh`	`cynyr: a frame is nothing, not even visible without any further properties set`
`18:50.10`	`Tornhoof`	`you can use deucecommander too`
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`18:50.50`	`IsoLnCHiP`	`Tornhoof, I allready have that, and like the fact that all the addons are configurable through it, but it still left the minimap buttons :)`
`18:51.15`	`Tornhoof`	`disable the minimap icons then`
`18:52.01`	`IsoLnCHiP`	`I unfortunately didnt find any option for that (maybe im just blind :( )`
`18:52.27`	`[dRaCo]`	`which specific addon?`
`18:52.37`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ`
`18:52.39`	`[dRaCo]`	`most of them have a "hide button" option`
`18:53.23`	`[dRaCo]`	`OneView for example hasn't, but there's a /ov showbutton toggle`
`18:53.24`	`Tornhoof`	`or hide plugin`
`18:54.25`	`kergoth`	`i wish cooldowntimers2 actually managed to pick up my cooldowns once in a while.`
`18:55.49`	`Amadeo`	`OmniCC?`
`18:56.04`	`Amadeo`	`or is that a bar counter?`
`18:56.14`	`IsoLnCHiP`	`[dRaCo], Ill check again, but IIRC I didnt see a hide button option on any of my installed ace addons`
`18:56.36`	`yacoob`	`btw, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7562578895667928977&hl=en`
`18:56.39`	`kergoth`	`cooldowntimers2 is like ocd`
`18:56.40`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r24976 10kEnergy/Locale/enUS.lua: kEnergy: add the missing debug level localization.`
`18:56.45`	`Amadeo`	`yeah, I thought it might be`
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`18:57.06`	`[dRaCo]`	`dunno which ones you are using...`
`18:57.41`	`CIA-17`	`03adirelle * r24977 10TinyTipExtras/TinyTipExtrasLocale_frFR.lua: TinyTipExtras: fixed frFR locale.`
`18:58.20`	`IsoLnCHiP`	`Oh, never mind, seems my brain wasnt able to handle the mix of two languages ;) I found it now. But using fubar helps allot as well :)`
`18:58.33`	`CIA-17`	`03adirelle * r24978 10TinyTip/TinyTipLocale_frFR.lua: TinyTip: added frFR translations.`
`18:58.58`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r24979 10kEnergy/ (ChangeLog.txt RelNotes.txt): kEnergy: update relnotes and changelog for 0.61 (stupid me, forgetting a localization).`
`18:59.48`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth 070.61 * r24980 10kEnergy/: kEnergy: tag version 0.61.`
`19:00.46`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24981 10Prat/modules/Timestamps.lua: Prat: Settings were not completely finished for this module.`
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`19:03.46`	`Thorgard`	`kergoth, I ran into the problem making my tickoffset like 14 seconds again.. though, I've no idea how and can't re-produce it.`
`19:04.02`	`kergoth`	`argh`
`19:05.43`	`Health`	`Fin you Fin!`
`19:06.10`	`Mikma`	`wa?`
`19:06.59`	`IsoLnCHiP`	`Ok, I rechecked with fubar turned off... The options to hide the Minimap button arent in the menu anymore. That goes for DeuceCommander, manufac, SorrensTimers. In MainAssist and BigWigs it is titled 'hide fubar plugin' roughly translated from german locale. So I wasnt really imagining it afterall`
`19:07.13`	`Makk`	`ok, how does the standalonelibs thing work?`
`19:07.23`	`Makk`	`no folders are created when i use install.bat`
`19:08.58`	`Adirelle`	`sylvanaar : when I put chat buttons inside the windows, lines too long get truncated (ending with ...)`
`19:09.14`	`Adirelle`	`sylvanaar : is it a "normal behaviour", optional or a bug ?`
`19:09.20`	`sylvanaar`	`Adirelle: yes`
`19:09.38`	`Gngsk`	`all of the above`
`19:09.44`	`sylvanaar`	`Adirelle: in fact i worked quite hard to make that happen`
`19:10.03`	`sylvanaar`	`they arent truncated they flow`
`19:10.09`	`Adirelle`	`flow ?`
`19:10.22`	`sylvanaar`	`they are supposed to flow areound the button`
`19:10.44`	`Adirelle`	`you mean continuing on the next line ?`
`19:10.48`	`sylvanaar`	`ie, not have the text underneath the button, yeah`
`19:10.52`	`sylvanaar`	`next line`
`19:11.01`	`Adirelle`	`i'll got screenshots for you then...`
`19:11.27`	`sylvanaar`	`you run any other mods that set chat frame properties?`
`19:11.40`	`Adirelle`	`normally not`
`19:11.48`	`Adirelle`	`i can make a test with only orat`
`19:11.52`	`Adirelle`	`s/orat/prat/`
`19:12.17`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r24982 10Cancellation/Cancellation.toc:`
`19:12.17`	`CIA-17`	`Cancellation:`
`19:12.17`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated for patch`
`19:12.26`	`Adirelle`	`wait a second, should not be hard to reproduce with IF spam`
`19:12.33`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r24986 10FuBar_TinyPadFu/FuBar_TinyPadFu.toc:`
`19:12.33`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_TinyPadFu:`
`19:12.33`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated for patch`
`19:12.35`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r24983 10ChatHighlighter/ChatHighlighter.toc:`
`19:12.35`	`CIA-17`	`ChatHighlighter:`
`19:12.35`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated for patch`
`19:12.40`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r24984 10DeclineDuel/DeclineDuel.toc:`
`19:12.40`	`CIA-17`	`DeclineDuel:`
`19:12.42`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated for patch`
`19:12.44`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r24988 10RaidAgent/RaidAgent.toc:`
`19:12.46`	`CIA-17`	`RaidAgent:`
`19:12.48`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated for patch`
`19:13.17`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r24985 10FuBar_RLAssistFu/FuBar_RLAssistFu.toc:`
`19:13.17`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_RLAssistFu:`
`19:13.18`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated for patch`
`19:13.25`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r24987 10FuBar_UIReloadFu/FuBar_UIReloadFu.toc:`
`19:13.25`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_UIReloadFu:`
`19:13.25`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated for patch`
`19:13.35`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r24990 10RaidSpy/RaidSpy.toc:`
`19:13.35`	`CIA-17`	`RaidSpy:`
`19:13.35`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated for patch`
`19:13.35`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r24989 10RaidInfo/RaidInfo.toc:`
`19:13.35`	`CIA-17`	`RaidInfo:`
`19:13.37`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated for patch`
`19:13.39`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r24992 10T_Tracking/T_Tracking.toc:`
`19:13.41`	`CIA-17`	`T_Tracking:`
`19:13.43`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated for patch`
`19:13.45`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r24991 10T_RPP/T_RPP.toc:`
`19:13.47`	`CIA-17`	`T_RPP:`
`19:13.49`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated for patch`
`19:13.51`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r24993 10Tankalyze/Tankalyze.toc:`
`19:13.53`	`CIA-17`	`Tankalyze:`
`19:13.54`	`Matrix110`	`spam Oo`
`19:13.55`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated for patch`
`19:14.00`	`Trancer`	`evil tristan makes the bot lag!`
`19:14.21`	`Smeltn`	`ok`
`19:14.21`	`sylvanaar`	`something on one of my chars messed up /dump`
`19:14.32`	`Smeltn`	`so is eepanels messed up`
`19:14.45`	`Matrix110`	`nope`
`19:14.50`	`Matrix110`	`eepanels works`
`19:15.02`	`[Liquidor]`	`Hehehe seen this one before? http://www.thesickempire.net/screenor/BF2142%202007-01-13%2013-48-49-92.jpg :-D`
`19:15.05`	`Smeltn`	`everytime I get it set up with my 6 different panels`
`19:15.07`	`Smeltn`	`I log out`
`19:15.16`	`Smeltn`	`and relog in`
`19:15.19`	`Smeltn`	`they are all gone`
`19:15.22`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r24994 10T_Tracking/T_Tracking.toc:`
`19:15.22`	`CIA-17`	`T_Tracking:`
`19:15.22`	`CIA-17`	`- Abandoned. Leaving it online though if someone wants to use it`
`19:15.26`	`Smeltn`	`and i have to start over again`
`19:15.37`	`Makk`	`no folders are created when i use install.bat in !!!StandaloneLibs`
`19:15.39`	`Matrix110`	`hmm i have under 6 Panels`
`19:15.57`	`Matrix110`	`Makk`
`19:16.08`	`Makk`	`Matrix110`
`19:16.10`	`Matrix110`	`just copy all the folders inside !!!StandaloneLibs into Interface/addons`
`19:16.19`	`Makk`	`there are no folders...`
`19:16.27`	`Matrix110`	`then you dled something wrong:P`
`19:16.30`	`Smeltn`	`still not working`
`19:16.34`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r24995 10RaidInfo/RaidInfo.toc:`
`19:16.34`	`CIA-17`	`RaidInfo:`
`19:16.34`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed a file that wasn't in use anyway`
`19:16.35`	`Makk`	`used WAU`
`19:17.05`	`Matrix110`	`http://www.wowace.com/files/!!!StandaloneLibraries/!!!StandaloneLibraries-r24912.zip`
`19:17.08`	`Matrix110`	`download that`
`19:17.49`	`PigBenis`	`hey guys i'm looking for a good mini map addon that will let me change it's shape, remove buttons, and move it's position. Does something like this exist?`
`19:17.55`	`sylvanaar`	`Adirelle: yeah, i suppose i see it when the chat frame is really small`
`19:18.07`	`Matrix110`	`Squeenix/simpleMinimap PigBenis`
`19:18.16`	`Adirelle`	`sylvanaar: yep`
`19:18.19`	`Smeltn`	`I use simple minimap and it works great`
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`19:18.22`	`Adirelle`	`i'm currently playing with it`
`19:18.26`	`PigBenis`	`great, thanks!`
`19:18.28`	`Adirelle`	`it flows quite good`
`19:18.59`	`Adirelle`	`except when the chat window is too narrow`
`19:19.13`	`Adirelle`	`some words aren't flows to next line`
`19:19.19`	`Adirelle`	`so they get cut`
`19:19.25`	`Smeltn`	`ok`
`19:19.31`	`Adirelle`	`s/flows/floweD/`
`19:19.32`	`Smeltn`	`so I look and all my panels are reading`
`19:19.39`	`Smeltn`	`but thye are not showing up`
`19:19.42`	`Smeltn`	`and I am getting the error`
`19:19.44`	`Smeltn`	`Interface\Addons\eePanels\core.lua:802:attempt to call method 'Hide' (a nil value)`
`19:20.20`	`Matrix110`	`strange`
`19:20.23`	`Matrix110`	`what rev. ?`
`19:20.46`	`Adirelle`	`sylvanaar : that's weird, it doesn't happen every time :s`
`19:20.47`	`Matrix110`	`23221 here and its working`
`19:20.56`	`sylvanaar`	`Adirelle: yeah, its when the word is long too`
`19:21.07`	`Adirelle`	`yep, could be that`
`19:21.08`	`art3mis`	`yeah was doing it to me too it's there to set the layout but any reload/relog makes the panels go away and causes eepanels to require you tick something then reopen the menu`
`19:21.21`	`Adirelle`	`er... is "/w" a too long word ?`
`19:21.39`	`sylvanaar`	`or possibly when the word is just long enough where it would end between the button and the side of the frame`
`19:21.45`	`nee-lap`	`Does anyone here have the problem of staying in the battleground group after leaving the battleground? <-- I know others have that like nevcairiel, but is there a workaround or fix?`
`19:22.18`	`sylvanaar`	`thats it most likely`
`19:22.33`	`Adirelle`	`sylvanaar : yep, I think you got it`
`19:22.37`	`sylvanaar`	`the fix, im not sure i want to do tho`
`19:22.47`	`Saladin`	`Anyone got link to a good aguf layout?`
`19:23.13`	`Adirelle`	`why ?`
`19:23.16`	`Adirelle`	`complex code ?`
`19:23.19`	`durcyn`	`Saladin: layouts need to be updated for the castbar stuff, but you might look for Buena on curse.`
`19:23.28`	`Saladin`	`thx`
`19:26.01`	`Saladin`	`patch screwed mine over, cant be arsed to start tweaking cus im sick`
`19:26.01`	`Barbanus`	`Hmmmm`
`19:26.01`	`Barbanus`	`MrPlow-a/R.6\MrPlow.lua:404: Cannot find a library instance of PeriodicTable-3.0.`
`19:26.01`	`kagaro`	`gah C stack overflows with my meta table`
`19:27.34`	`PigBenis`	`SimpleMinimap works great, thanks`
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`19:29.29`	`Makk`	`Saladin :)`
`19:29.45`	`Saladin`	`halo thar. i haef cold ftl`
`19:29.52`	`Makk`	`aaw.`
`19:30.34`	`Saladin`	`buena looks good enough durcyn thx.`
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`19:37.23`	`kagaro`	`well the new talismonger is working well so far`
`19:37.47`	`kagaro`	`still got a ton of crap to test in it though`
`19:45.51`	`Nayon`	`Anyone ever used the addon Forgotten Chat?`
`19:46.05`	`Amadeo`	`I forget`
`19:46.09`	`Nayon`	`..`
`19:46.28`	`Matrix110`	`21revs togo btw!`
`19:46.31`	`Nayon`	`It Finaly got a much needed update but its confliction with Prat..`
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`19:46.52`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r24996 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: updated a menu description .. localizers its a minor change`
`19:46.59`	`Matrix110`	`oh`
`19:47.00`	`Matrix110`	`4`
`19:47.07`	`sylvanaar`	`Adirelle: can you test it plz`
`19:48.13`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r24997 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: updated a menu description .. helps if I do it in the right spot`
`19:48.19`	`Matrix110`	`3!`
`19:49.04`	`Amadeo`	`Those OLED screens from CES turn me on`
`19:49.32`	`Matrix110`	`i like the Laser Projection TV from Sony kinda`
`19:49.43`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24998 10Prat/modules/ChatButtons.lua: Prat: When flowing tect around a button make it wrap without elipsis`
`19:49.52`	`Amadeo`	`they claimed they didn't look too good`
`19:49.57`	`Matrix110`	`2!`
`19:50.12`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`whats the difference between Cartographer_Opening and Cartographer_Treasure?`
`19:50.25`	`Wogroipl`	`use treasure`
`19:50.27`	`Nayon`	`Ones for items not listed as treasure`
`19:50.29`	`Nayon`	`?`
`19:50.30`	`Amadeo`	`Now I can't buy a laptop or something until LED backlights are standard :P`
`19:50.41`	`Chinku`	`EvilGrin\|Win: opening is out of date, use treasure`
`19:50.42`	`Matrix110`	`Amadeo i dont know how the look but on the screens they looked fine and the tech behind is interesting`
`19:50.47`	`Nayon`	`kk`
`19:50.48`	`Matrix110`	`*y`
`19:51.00`	`PigBenis`	`man I can't get Cartographer_Quests to work`
`19:51.12`	`Amadeo`	`Yeah it is`
`19:51.14`	`Matrix110`	`i would still like to see LCOS TVs but it got dropped by Intel...`
`19:51.16`	`PigBenis`	`sounds like it could be very helpful too, it's just not doing anything for me`
`19:51.25`	`kagaro`	`Cartographer_Opening hasnt been touch in a while .. Treasure does what it does plus more`
`19:52.14`	`Amadeo`	`haha, so...Cingular is turning into AT&T on Monday?`
`19:52.34`	`EvilGrin\|Win`	`kagaro, ok, thanks. That's what I suspected.`
`19:52.41`	`markv`	`hey i've got an item question if someone knows much about the 10-19 twink bracket for pvp`
`19:52.56`	`markv`	`are there any items that will pop a shield when you get hit by an attack?`
`19:53.11`	`evl`	`Hmms, anyone fiddeled with the castbar in agUF?`
`19:55.24`	`kagaro`	`markv: yes`
`19:56.54`	`kagaro`	`crap i cant get tekSupport to work without tainting cast spell`
`19:57.25`	`Nightdew_`	`can anyone tell me how i can get bartender3 to switch out a bar when switching stance.. like stealth?`
`19:58.50`	`Fin`	`Health!`
`19:58.54`	`Fin`	`you Health`
`19:58.55`	`Health`	`yo`
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`19:59.35`	`Amadeo`	`Tonight on Sci-Fi, Grendel :D`
`19:59.52`	`PigBenis`	`hey guys is anyone having issues with TopScoreFu? It's not working for me`
`20:00.10`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r24999 10Prat/modules/ChatButtons.lua: Prat: Fix elipsis...No way it can happen now`
`20:00.18`	`durcyn`	`Amadeo: the swedish one from last year?`
`20:00.23`	`Fin`	`what did you mean by "Fin you Fin" before?`
`20:00.24`	`Fin`	`oh!`
`20:00.28`	`Fin`	`hah I bet I know what it was`
`20:00.33`	`renchap`	`hum...`
`20:00.39`	`Amadeo`	`durcyn: I don't think so`
`20:00.49`	`durcyn`	`pity, that one was good :o`
`20:00.51`	`renchap`	`lets commit a forgotten translation to reach 25000`
`20:00.52`	`Fin`	`did Allasea really think I was going to ninja that Greater Fire Prot. recipe? :)`
`20:00.55`	`renchap`	`^^`
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`20:01.07`	`Amadeo`	`durcyn: http://www.scifi.com/grendel/`
`20:01.34`	`Matrix110`	`1080p trailers are to big i need seriously a higher resoultion...`
`20:01.41`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r25000 10cgProfiler/profile/profile.lua:`
`20:01.41`	`CIA-17`	`cgProfiler -`
`20:01.41`	`CIA-17`	`-updates to the profiler`
`20:01.47`	`renchap`	`:(`
`20:01.47`	`sylvanaar`	`25k`
`20:01.52`	`sylvanaar`	`lucky`
`20:01.54`	`Amadeo`	`I can't wait to watch it :D`
`20:02.03`	`Matrix110`	`Gz Kaeltan!`
`20:02.06`	`sylvanaar`	`ok - anyone want to help test wau 1.7?`
`20:02.12`	`Matrix110`	`*Kaelten`
`20:02.21`	`Fin`	`sylvanaar: yes`
`20:03.02`	`sylvanaar`	`Fin: http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/FuBar_SWStats2Fu/SuperSecretHidingPlace/secret1.7a01.zip`
`20:03.05`	`CIA-17`	`03renchap * r25001 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuXPLocals.lua:`
`20:03.06`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_FuXPFu:`
`20:03.06`	`CIA-17`	`- frFR translation`
`20:03.17`	`renchap`	`sylvanaar: testing`
`20:03.24`	`Matrix110`	`uh i test aswell`
`20:04.11`	`abyssichate`	`There is a login prompting`
`20:04.14`	`sylvanaar`	`features: mirror list in the settings, auto unpacking of !!!StandalongLibs, plus some ui fixes`
`20:04.28`	`Matrix110`	`abyssichate just tdo http://svn.wowace.com`
`20:04.30`	`sylvanaar`	`Fin: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/FuBar_SWStats2Fu/SuperSecretHidingPlace/secret1.7a01.zip`
`20:04.32`	`Matrix110`	`instead of dev.wowace.com`
`20:04.35`	`abyssichate`	`okay`
`20:04.38`	`PigBenis`	`dammit topscorefu isn't working for me =(`
`20:05.17`	`sylvanaar`	`please install and reinstall !!!StandaloneLibs using WAU several times`
`20:05.24`	`Matrix110`	`ok`
`20:06.15`	`nadas`	`sylvanaar: how about a shortcut key for updating without externals? :)`
`20:06.36`	`Matrix110`	`i agree nadas`
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`20:07.13`	`Matrix110`	`sylvanaar its normal with the errors if the Folders already exist i guess?`
`20:07.26`	`sylvanaar`	`nadas: if they have SAL installed, why would they want externals? Methinks ill use one key for update`
`20:07.48`	`nadas`	`that could work too`
`20:07.54`	`sylvanaar`	`and just change it based on if they have SAL or not`
`20:08.19`	`Matrix110`	`hmm`
`20:08.51`	`Matrix110`	`WAU should overwrite the folders even if they exist then you could aswell use that for BigWigs/oRa2`
`20:09.07`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm I wdid I do?`
`20:09.14`	`Matrix110`	`you made rev 25000!`
`20:09.19`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`lol`
`20:09.21`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`so I did`
`20:09.27`	`Matrix110`	`(21:01:43) (CIA-17) kaelten * r25000 cgProfiler/profile/profile.lua:`
`20:09.27`	`Fin`	`sylvanaar: first thing, it doesn't let me actually choose anything from "Install/Update Marked Addons"`
`20:09.31`	`Fin`	`both options are greyed out`
`20:09.41`	`Matrix110`	`Fin wait until the INdex is loaded`
`20:09.43`	`Matrix110`	`then you can`
`20:10.07`	`sylvanaar`	`index loading is very slow`
`20:10.17`	`Fin`	`ah yeh`
`20:10.23`	`Matrix110`	`it works here as it should besides what i mentioned above what should be implemented!`
`20:10.39`	`Fin`	`it wouldn't let me edit preferences or anything else there either`
`20:10.52`	`Fin`	`are you the author?`
`20:10.57`	`Fin`	`I have a question`
`20:11.12`	`Matrix110`	`sylvanaar is not the original author thats PProvost`
`20:11.13`	`sylvanaar`	`you can use it for bigwigs/ora2 its a generic system`
`20:11.20`	`sylvanaar`	`im a co author`
`20:11.26`	`sylvanaar`	`now`
`20:11.35`	`Matrix110`	`sylvanaar but if you use it for BW/ora2 you would get the Error aswell`
`20:11.41`	`Matrix110`	`and nothing gets updated`
`20:12.04`	`Matrix110`	`as it doesnt overwrite the files if they exist already`
`20:12.08`	`sylvanaar`	`Matrix110: you dont fully understand how it works`
`20:12.08`	`PigBenis`	`hey guys, anyone want to recommend an action bar for a warrior?`
`20:12.15`	`Matrix110`	`that might be:P`
`20:12.32`	`Panye`	`bartender3 PigBenis`
`20:13.11`	`sylvanaar`	`Its not going to overwrite folders when it installs unless it put them there`
`20:13.20`	`PigBenis`	`sweet i'll check it out, that's what i was kinda looking at`
`20:13.25`	`sylvanaar`	`uninstall once`
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`20:13.37`	`sl8r88`	`anyone else having issues with mrplow and bank the works? i'm not getting an error msg, but it keeps trying to play with my inventory bags.`
`20:13.45`	`Fin`	`I know that people are going use the XML format soon, but if there was an up-to-date, easily parseable text file that listed all the addons with their most recent version number in them, available, couldn't that massively speed up (the currently really really slow) part of wua?`
`20:13.57`	`Panye`	`anyone got any exp writing customdesign in CF2?`
`20:14.01`	`Matrix110`	`ok i dont get it sylvanaar :P`
`20:14.08`	`sylvanaar`	`it will put all the folders back into the main folder then update it and then put them back`
`20:14.43`	`sylvanaar`	`just do it a few times`
`20:14.43`	`Laric`	`hmm autobar is a tad buggy atm`
`20:15.04`	`Matrix110`	`yes Laric it is indeed`
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`20:15.10`	`kagaro`	`can people change local without reloading the ui ?`
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`20:15.24`	`Laric`	`locale you mean?`
`20:15.29`	`kagaro`	`yes`
`20:15.34`	`Matrix110`	`you can change a local without reloading UI`
`20:15.35`	`Laric`	`from enGB to frFR? Dont think so`
`20:15.53`	`sylvanaar`	`also try it with various preference settings like "delete before extract"`
`20:16.06`	`art3mis`	`anyone know of an addon that will allow me to set custom buttons to swap hotkey pages?`
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`20:16.22`	`kagaro`	`im trying to figure out why the fist time my event handle is called it uses 80k memory`
`20:16.28`	`Fin`	`what does "ConfirmSync" do?`
`20:16.43`	`Fin`	`does "Sync" mean install the latest version?`
`20:16.50`	`art3mis`	`pops up a message in swstats to say yes or no to syncing?`
`20:17.07`	`Fin`	`this is in reference to the WoWAceUpdater, sorry`
`20:17.15`	`Matrix110`	`Fin yes just a warning if you want to Sync aka update your addons`
`20:17.19`	`kagaro`	`can anyone see why : http://ace.pastey.net/5031 that codes uses 80kib memory ?`
`20:17.22`	`sylvanaar`	`Fin: the slow part of WUA can be speeded up in the preferencs by choosing a mirror`
`20:17.22`	`art3mis`	`heh oh that just means it pops a message to make sure you wanna overwrite whats there`
`20:17.27`	`Fin`	`unless you were being deliberately flippant, in which case, piss off :P`
`20:17.48`	`sylvanaar`	`s/WUA/WAU/`
`20:17.54`	`art3mis`	`and yes i am deliberatly flippant most of the time ;P`
`20:18.19`	`art3mis`	`i'd love if somehow wau would allow sorting based on mod author`
`20:18.32`	`art3mis`	`or "type of addon"`
`20:18.34`	`Matrix110`	`sylvanaar if i use DeleteBeforeExtracing WAU still wont overwrite`
`20:19.00`	`FryGuy-`	`sylvanaar: why should we need to get !!!standalonelibs`
`20:19.09`	`Fin`	`sylvanaar: the only reason I can think for it being so slow is that it checks each addon's latest version number individually`
`20:19.13`	`FryGuy-`	`wau should automatically just grab the externals :)`
`20:19.15`	`Fin`	`is that how it works?`
`20:19.31`	`sylvanaar`	`no, its just a big file and it comes in slow`
`20:19.33`	`Matrix110`	`FryGuy- we dont want externals thats the thing:P`
`20:19.39`	`renchap`	`good idea FryGuy- :)`
`20:19.40`	`FryGuy-`	`i mean`
`20:19.43`	`FryGuy-`	`look at the toc`
`20:19.44`	`Fin`	`art3mis: glad to hear it!`
`20:19.49`	`Matrix110`	`oh you mean that`
`20:19.50`	`FryGuy-`	`and automagically add those addons :p`
`20:19.51`	`Matrix110`	`ok`
`20:19.52`	`sylvanaar`	`nope`
`20:19.59`	`FryGuy-`	`(well prompt them)`
`20:20.01`	`Matrix110`	`but Standalone is easier i think`
`20:20.14`	`DocBru`	`does anyone know if SVN admins are currently around? i requested access some days ago to check-in my ace'd addon... still need to upload it to curse though :(`
`20:20.45`	`Matrix110`	`DocBru Kaelten is the Admin but he just will tell you to write another email :P`
`20:20.54`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, maybe - though the system for dependancies in standalone is broken for non-library addons`
`20:21.08`	`DocBru`	`ok @matrix`
`20:21.09`	`Fin`	`sylvanaar: what was that "nope" in response to?`
`20:22.14`	`Nayon`	`Is there a way to disable a certain modual for prat while in game or do I have to drop and move it out of the moduals folder?`
`20:22.19`	`sylvanaar`	`theres not the right data in the TOC to do it correctly`
`20:22.35`	`sylvanaar`	`toggle it off?`
`20:22.56`	`Nayon`	`yea I have one modual that conflicts with a Wisper addon`
`20:23.01`	`Nayon`	`Chatbuttons`
`20:23.05`	`sylvanaar`	`Nayon: toggle`
`20:23.17`	`Nayon`	`Thanks`
`20:23.23`	`Fin`	`btw, did Prat ever have a ChatSounds module? I've just realised I'm not getting dinged on whispers now and can't remember which addon used to do it :)`
`20:23.32`	`sylvanaar`	`Nayon: how does Chatbuttons interfere with a whisper addon?`
`20:23.36`	`Matrix110`	`Fin ChatSounds or ChatMod did that`
`20:23.59`	`sylvanaar`	`Fin: why not write it?`
`20:24.31`	`Fin`	`sylvanaar: sure, can do, I was just wondering if it was Prat or not`
`20:24.33`	`sylvanaar`	`There is Prat.Sounds table, and the prat events`
`20:24.41`	`Fin`	`btw`
`20:25.18`	`Panye`	`any experts with CF2 in the house??`
`20:25.18`	`Fin`	`I still intend to do the stuff I wanted to, but I've just started a new job, is my excuse for not having produced anything so far :)`
`20:25.24`	`Fin`	`Matrix110: I think it was ChatMod, yeah`
`20:25.26`	`sylvanaar`	`^.^ what that % formatting?`
`20:25.55`	`Fin`	`problem was all the chat addons had overlapping functionality that meant I ended up with three or four different things intalled that all conflicted, just to cover everything I wanted`
`20:26.13`	`Matrix110`	`sylvanaar i did some testing (would test it with BigWigs/oRa if you would add a .wau file in them) but i dont see how it would be able to update BigWigs or oRA2 for libaries it doesnt matter as the Folders contain nothing but in BigWigs they contain data which doesnt get update by WAU which is already in the folder, but with WAU it just will give me a error that those Files already exist and that WAU cant create them`
`20:26.25`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r25002 10FuBar_CorkFu/ (Bindings.xml Core.lua): FuBar_CorkFu - More 2.0 tweaks`
`20:26.33`	`Fin`	`sylvanaar: yeah, that, and I want (and think I can manage to do, eventually), ChatClear, Alias, and Altnames`
`20:26.39`	`Panye`	`basically what I'm after is to increase the font size for buff timers in buffalo and guild?`
`20:26.46`	`Ominous`	`~seen Nickenyfiken`
`20:26.48`	`purl`	`nickenyfiken <n=najklord@83.145.59.23> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 1h 38m 58s ago, saying: 'well if its in trunk i consider it beta atleast'.`
`20:27.01`	`sylvanaar`	`Matrix110: use the batch files that are in the standalonelibs folder`
`20:27.37`	`renchap`	`execution of a batfile that can easily be modified by many people isnt a good idea i think`
`20:27.45`	`renchap`	`*batchfile`
`20:27.46`	`sylvanaar`	`renchap: and i dont`
`20:27.52`	`renchap`	`ok ^^`
`20:28.05`	`sylvanaar`	`renchap: the batch files do the same thing tho`
`20:28.23`	`durcyn`	`batchfiles you can at least read and validate`
`20:28.36`	`Fin`	`bit ambitious I guess, someone else will likely get most of it done before me, but it's nice to have goals :)`
`20:28.36`	`durcyn`	`not like they're distributing compiled executables`
`20:28.38`	`Matrix110`	`sylvanaar i thought you wanted that you dont have to use the .bats anymore?`
`20:28.48`	`sl8r88`	`can't wait for altnames`
`20:29.27`	`sylvanaar`	`Fin: Prat has a generic pattern matching registry all that stuff is really easy, you just gotta code the aceoptions tables`
`20:30.21`	`sylvanaar`	`use the bats if you want to understand how wau works re:packing and unpacking the addon`
`20:30.30`	`Fin`	`I've been planning to go over the changes you made and stuff and figure it out properly, but that sounds fantastic`
`20:31.15`	`sylvanaar`	`you call RegisterPattern("pattern", matchFunc)`
`20:31.49`	`sylvanaar`	`its a bit crude but it doesnt need to be very fancy`
`20:31.50`	`andremar`	`Nargiddley: hey man, something in Baggins is making my wow hardlock whenever I change profile, then open bag then try to close it again`
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`20:32.18`	`Matrix110`	`i still dont get how it should work with BigWigs and oRa2 it but well if it works later iam fine :P`
`20:32.23`	`Ominous`	`does anyone know where i can get hold of the source files for JavaAceUpdater`
`20:32.47`	`vulturul`	`hello, im using AG_uf, and i cannot show up party pets, tried all kind of settings, anyone know a solve ?`
`20:33.04`	`sylvanaar`	`well, they make the filelist.wua`
`20:33.08`	`nevcairiel`	`Kaelten: ping`
`20:33.17`	`Kaelten`	`hrm me hide now.`
`20:33.20`	`Kaelten`	`me been pinged`
`20:33.27`	`nevcairiel`	`hehe`
`20:33.36`	`nevcairiel`	`i found and fixed a bug in OneView`
`20:33.45`	`nevcairiel`	`for some reason selecting other chars didnt work anymore`
`20:33.45`	`Kaelten`	`?`
`20:33.50`	`Kaelten`	`oh ya`
`20:33.55`	`Kaelten`	`its a bug I havn't had a chance to fix yet`
`20:34.04`	`nevcairiel`	`the string.find was too greedy`
`20:34.15`	`sylvanaar`	`Matrix110: go into your SAL folder and delete the folders`
`20:34.16`	`nevcairiel`	`i changed it to look only for a+ instead of .+`
`20:34.17`	`Kaelten`	`so its working now?`
`20:34.17`	`InterSlayer`	`With AceEvent, if you schedule the same ID/Event twice, does the newer one overwrite the old one? Or should I unschedule the old one first?`
`20:34.31`	`nevcairiel`	`yea it works again`
`20:34.34`	`nevcairiel`	`mind if i commit?`
`20:34.43`	`Matrix110`	`and now update again?`
`20:34.43`	`vulturul`	`anyone can help with aguf ? :(`
`20:34.54`	`Kaelten`	`if you're sure it works`
`20:35.03`	`sylvanaar`	`with no folders, do an uninstall`
`20:35.26`	`nevcairiel`	`i changed line 591 to local _, _, charName, charId = string.find(v2, "(%a+) . (.+)")`
`20:35.34`	`Nargiddley`	`andremar, i'll look into it`
`20:35.37`	`nevcairiel`	`so it doesnt catch on the charId, but the charname`
`20:35.56`	`andremar`	`Nargiddley: if you want me to test anything specific, or turn some debug on or something, let me know`
`20:36.34`	`Nargiddley`	`which profile do you load ?`
`20:36.47`	`vulturul`	`hello, im using AG_uf, and i cannot show up party pets, tried all kind of settings, anyone know a solve ?`
`20:36.49`	`andremar`	`I try to change it from Default to "Bankalt"`
`20:36.56`	`Nargiddley`	`k`
`20:37.08`	`andremar`	`the default uses the All in one style`
`20:37.22`	`andremar`	`when I change it to Bankalt and open, its back to the different categories`
`20:37.24`	`nevcairiel`	`and yes i am pretty sure it works :) /me commits`
`20:37.35`	`andremar`	`and closing it, it freezes wow`
`20:37.44`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r25003 10OneView/OneView.lua: OneView - fix for selecting other characters`
`20:38.06`	`Nargiddley`	`hmm`
`20:38.13`	`lumpi`	`if i get an error in bugsack saying action blocked by fubar is this def. fubar or maybe one of its plugins?`
`20:38.16`	`Nargiddley`	`just tried that and diddnt get a lockup`
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`20:38.36`	`Nargiddley`	`back to default is what should happen when you change to an unused profie`
`20:38.48`	`andremar`	`yes, I assumed that part was correct`
`20:39.19`	`[dRaCo]`	`nevcairiel: yay! found that bug earlier today, tried fixing it, but didnt succeed`
`20:39.39`	`Ominous`	`where can i get a program to compile the language WAU is written in?`
`20:40.05`	`andremar`	`Ominous: its in C#, so msdn.microsoft.com I pressume`
`20:40.14`	`Ominous`	`oki ty`
`20:40.19`	`[dRaCo]`	`or get mono`
`20:40.30`	`[dRaCo]`	`it's an os compiler for c#`
`20:40.37`	`gxam`	`http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/ one of those might work`
`20:40.40`	`Matrix110`	`ah sylvanaar it seems to work now it extracts the folders`
`20:41.23`	`Nargiddley`	`andremar, did you have the bank open when the lock happened ?`
`20:41.46`	`Matrix110`	`those errors are kinda confusing though`
`20:41.56`	`andremar`	`Nargiddley: nope dont think so`
`20:42.02`	`andremar`	`let me try it in a few`
`20:42.57`	`Ominous`	`does anyone know where i can get hold of the source files for JavaAceUpdater?`
`20:42.58`	`Matrix110`	`hmm yes it works but it deleted all libaries now and they get all updated`
`20:43.13`	`Nargiddley`	`andremar, cant reporduce it :/`
`20:43.19`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar 07SuperSecretHidingPlace * r25004 10FuBar_SWStats2Fu/ (. secret1.7a01.zip secret1.7a02.zip): FuBar_SWStats2Fu:`
`20:43.50`	`[dRaCo]`	`that supersecrethindingplace isn't that secret anymore...`
`20:43.51`	vid`	`lol`
`20:44.10`	`PigBenis`	`Bartender 3 doesn't have a cooldown count? gotta use OmniCC?`
`20:44.24`	`[dRaCo]`	`cooldowncount works, too`
`20:44.32`	`[dRaCo]`	`has just been updated for the latest patch`
`20:44.44`	`PigBenis`	`cool, i'll check it out`
`20:44.53`	`Matrix110`	`PigBenis yes nevcairiel took it today`
`20:44.57`	`sylvanaar`	`Matrix110: it removes the folders if you uninstal SAL, and you would only do that if it was updated`
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`20:45.19`	`andremar`	`Nargiddley: happend again here. I change profile, I can open, but as soon as aI close agai, it stops`
`20:45.59`	`Matrix110`	`what changed with a02?`
`20:46.14`	`Nargiddley`	`andremar, can you try it with no other mods loaded ?`
`20:46.24`	`andremar`	`Nargiddley: ok`
`20:46.25`	`sylvanaar`	`i changed it so it deletes the folder inside the addon directory even if it fails to move it out`
`20:46.30`	`lumpi`	`onebank still had the cooldown problem this afternoon here`
`20:46.48`	`Matrix110`	`k then its less confusing now not giving errors anymore`
`20:47.29`	`Fin`	`sylvanaar: the version you asked me to test does not write preferences to disk when they're changed, even after exiting`
`20:48.23`	`sylvanaar`	`ah that sucks, typo`
`20:48.55`	`andremar`	`Nargiddley: works with no other mods loaded`
`20:49.34`	`odt`	`damn, my computer has started hanging when i play wow`
`20:49.39`	`Matrix110`	`sylvanaar if SAL gets updated with a new libary i need to update twice now or to dl the new Libary inside it?`
`20:49.51`	`andremar`	`Nargiddley: ahh, its banks and merchants`
`20:50.03`	`Matrix110`	`or does the new libary automatically gets included?`
`20:50.10`	`odt`	`it just stalls the display and nothing except a hard power-off will work :(`
`20:50.33`	`Matrix110`	`or well ill just try with deleting some lib`
`20:50.34`	`Fin`	`would feature requests for WoWAceUpdater be better kept to myself for a while while you're doing stuff to it? if not, is posting to the forum best, or just tell someone?`
`20:50.55`	`Nargiddley`	`does that try to close bags at the bank ?`
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`20:51.05`	`Nargiddley`	`when you close it`
`20:51.18`	`Nargiddley`	`cause i can see where that would cause it`
`20:51.56`	`andremar`	`Nargiddley: it tries to open all bags, not olny the main one`
`20:52.11`	`andremar`	`but opening works fine, its closing baggins using a hotkey that crashes`
`20:52.23`	`Nargiddley`	`i can guess why`
`20:52.33`	`andremar`	`I'll just disable it`
`20:52.38`	`Nargiddley`	`if no bank bags are open, Baggins closes the bank`
`20:52.43`	`Nargiddley`	`when closing a bag`
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`20:52.59`	`Nargiddley`	`so if its trying to close bags when the bank closes..`
`20:53.07`	`Nargiddley`	`i could try to close the bank again`
`20:53.17`	`Nargiddley`	`and theres the infinate loop`
`20:53.29`	`PProvost`	`Good day everyone`
`20:53.49`	`Fin`	`good day PProvost`
`20:54.30`	`Matrix110`	`hmm sylvanaar i pretended now SAL got update with a new libary (deleted Babble in Addons) and deleted the changelog in SAL to pretend a update of them to WAU. Now ALL libaries get redled again.`
`20:54.37`	`Matrix110`	`*updated`
`20:54.56`	`andremar`	`Nargiddley: sounds plausible`
`20:55.58`	`lumpi`	`where should i report errors from fubar and onebank?`
`20:56.08`	`PProvost`	`Fubar: ckknight`
`20:56.11`	`PProvost`	`OneBank; KAelten`
`20:56.27`	`CIA-17`	`03nargiddley * r25005 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Try to prevent hard lockup when closing bags`
`20:56.36`	`Nargiddley`	`andremar, can you see if that fixes it`
`20:56.41`	`lumpi`	`there was this flyspray in ancient times, but that seems gone?`
`20:56.57`	`PProvost`	`'ancient times' <- hilarious`
`20:57.03`	`lumpi`	`hehe`
`20:57.11`	`Matrix110`	`trac.wowace.com now i think`
`20:57.24`	`lumpi`	`that trac thing never worked for me when i tried`
`20:58.32`	`Matrix110`	`hmmm this is weird`
`20:58.55`	`andremar`	`Nargiddley: I will once the new zipfile is there, I'm not on svn-updates I'm afraid`
`20:59.25`	`Nargiddley`	`andremar, the change was a one liner`
`20:59.28`	`sylvanaar`	`Matrix110: what did you expect`
`20:59.47`	`Matrix110`	`that it just updates the Lib that is new:P`
`20:59.48`	`Nargiddley`	`change line 3781 to if self.bankIsOpen and not self:IsAnyBankOpen() then`
`21:00.02`	`Nargiddley`	`added the bankIsOpen check`
`21:00.12`	`andremar`	`Nargiddley: ok, will try that`
`21:00.13`	`sylvanaar`	`It does that already`
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`21:01.59`	`Adirelle`	`Nargiddley: wierd bug, didn't experienced it`
`21:02.05`	`CIA-17`	`03aznamir * r25006 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua:`
`21:02.05`	`CIA-17`	`PallyPower:`
`21:02.05`	`CIA-17`	`- Smart Buffs now allows to cast Blessing of Might on hunters`
`21:02.14`	`Nargiddley`	`Adirelle, you did but fixed it sort of :P`
`21:02.50`	`Nargiddley`	`Adirelle, when you were getting the infinate recursion closing the bank`
`21:03.01`	`andremar`	`Nargiddley: cant reproduce it anymore atleast :)`
`21:03.32`	`Nargiddley`	`Adirelle, this was interaction with another addon tho. but basicly the same bug`
`21:03.48`	`Adirelle`	`Nargiddley: doesn't remember me of anything :s`
`21:04.19`	`Adirelle`	`but well, i've got a short-lived memory :)`
`21:04.33`	`Nargiddley`	`Adirelle, you added the recursion check to OnBankClosed, so it wouldnt close bags`
`21:04.43`	`Adirelle`	`oh... I see`
`21:04.44`	`Nargiddley`	`Adirelle, another addon was doing basicly the same thing heh`
`21:04.52`	`Nargiddley`	`close all bags on bank close`
`21:04.57`	`Matrix110`	`sylvanaar if i Delete Babble2-2 in my Addons then delete changelog.txt from SAL then update (before without problems) it doesnt add Babble folder inside my /addons folder somehow`
`21:05.09`	`Adirelle`	`but I didn't in the other possible point of recursion...`
`21:05.15`	`Matrix110`	`(yes iam annoying :P)`
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`21:06.52`	`lumpi`	`trac is still dead`
`21:06.58`	`Adirelle`	`Nargiddley : about Baggins, I thought about three things : the first is to maybe reorder the menu, it's getting more and more long`
`21:07.26`	`Matrix110`	`lumpi its wowace.com/trac`
`21:07.37`	`andremar`	`Nargiddley: if I might leave a feature request as well, it would be to make it easier to extend categories (like I want weapons and I want weapons rare or better, and I want them to be mutually exclusive so to speak), that would rock I think :p`
`21:07.41`	`Adirelle`	`the second is to add a skinny option, but I don't know if a full skiny thing should be provided or just a toggle between blizzard and original baggins skin`
`21:08.03`	`Adirelle`	`and the third is to add right-click menus on bag and section titles`
`21:08.36`	`nee-lap`	`perhaps ScoreSort should be removed as the function is in the game already`
`21:08.57`	`Adirelle`	`andremar : are you using hide duplicates ?`
`21:09.12`	`andremar`	`Adirelle: yes, so that sort of takes care of mutualy exclusivenes`
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`21:09.52`	`Adirelle`	`adrenmar: what if you create a first section with rare and better weapons and then another all weapon section ?`
`21:09.57`	`Adirelle`	`wouldn't fix it ?`
`21:10.14`	`andremar`	`yes, but it leaves my categories with redunant rules`
`21:10.23`	`Matrix110`	`sylvanaar another thing when i just update 1 of the Addons in the list, the check goes to the Addon under it after it thje first Addon got updated: check !!!SAL-->Update->update complete-> check at !BugGrabber`
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`21:10.28`	`andremar`	`I would like to have one category named weapons, and then another category that extends it`
`21:10.34`	`andremar`	`by adding the blue + rule`
`21:10.38`	`Adirelle`	`oh...`
`21:10.48`	`andremar`	`so if I later refine the weapons rule, it also applies to the weapons blue rule`
`21:10.52`	`Adirelle`	`categorie recursion...`
`21:11.25`	`andremar`	`yes :)`
`21:11.55`	`Adirelle`	`it would raise filtering complexity a lot`
`21:11.55`	`lumpi`	`thanks matrix, server still get hammered it seems though`
`21:12.11`	`andremar`	`I guess`
`21:12.13`	`sylvanaar`	`Matrix110: why are you deleting SAL's change log`
`21:12.31`	`Matrix110`	`sylvanaar that WAU updates it`
`21:12.32`	`sylvanaar`	`Matrix110: stop doing that`
`21:12.43`	`Mikma`	`http://www.funpic.hu/files/pics/00030/00030093.jpg`
`21:13.27`	`Vegeta]BT[`	`http://www.funpic.hu/files/pics/00030/00030093.jpg`
`21:13.34`	`Vegeta]BT[`	`man kanns echt �bertreiben Oo`
`21:13.44`	`sylvanaar`	`Matrix110: use WAU's install and uninstall commmands - yes when SAL itself id updated you want it to remove any addons taht have been deleted`
`21:14.04`	`Mikma`	`Vegeta]BT[: sanoin samaa kun ite n�in`
`21:14.08`	`Vegeta]BT[`	`Oo ups fc :D`
`21:14.12`	`Vegeta]BT[`	`sorry :)`
`21:14.21`	`Matrix110`	`ic`
`21:14.23`	`durcyn`	`SAL? i konw not this TLA, qu'est-ce que c'est?`
`21:14.51`	`andremar`	`Adirelle: how about category and section renaming? or is that already possible?`
`21:15.16`	`Adirelle`	`andremar : dunno :) default categories are fines for me :)`
`21:15.44`	`Adirelle`	`didn't even try to edit their name, even if I played a bit to see how it was working`
`21:15.50`	`andremar`	`k`
`21:16.05`	`Matrix110`	`If i uninstall SAL via WAU, check it again to install it it still wont extract the folders properly`
`21:16.19`	`CIA-17`	`03nirek * r25007 10ElfReloaded/ (ElfReloaded.lua ElfReloaded.toc): ElfReloaded: Fix for needetc being 0`
`21:17.34`	`Matrix110`	`If i install SAL via WAU it seems to just delete the Folders inside the SAL folder as it doesnt extract them to /Addons`
`21:17.41`	`PProvost`	`durcyn, they are testing a new feature for WAU that isn't ready yet`
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`21:18.46`	`durcyn`	`PProvost: oh. spiffy, i guess.`
`21:19.20`	`sylvanaar`	`Matrix110: /srug`
`21:19.26`	`sylvanaar`	`Matrix110: /shrug`
`21:19.42`	`durcyn`	`oh, standalone libs. gotcha.`
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`21:20.58`	`Tornhoof`	`limitation of the zip lib`
`21:21.07`	`Tornhoof`	`does not like empty folders`
`21:24.34`	`Matrix110`	`my idea of what you want to do is: Let WAU check for a .wau file inside the Addon.zip and extract the folders to /Addons instead of Addons/Addon/ or?`
`21:24.53`	`andremar`	`Nargiddley: is the way to sort items by level required to use the tooltip rule?`
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`21:25.40`	`Nargiddley`	`andremar, i could add a level rule`
`21:26.23`	`andremar`	`Nargiddley: and is it possible to apply the bag-sections/categories to the bank automaticly?`
`21:27.56`	vid`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asNdZ0h_3XY`
`21:28.39`	`sylvanaar`	`Matrix110: awright my change to delete the directories deleteted the destination instead of the source it was a 02 but`
`21:29.39`	`Matrix110`	`ah`
`21:30.39`	`nuOHEP`	`nevcairiel, you around? getting this error when clicking buttons with macros http://ace.pastey.net/5034`
`21:30.58`	`CIA-17`	`03Heron * r25008 10Cartographer_Hotspot/ (3 files):`
`21:30.58`	`CIA-17`	`Cartographer_Hotspot:`
`21:30.59`	`CIA-17`	`- Lot of code rewritten`
`21:30.59`	`CIA-17`	`- Added option to move map on mouse hover`
`21:31.31`	`nuOHEP`	`not really sure if its bart error... this buffprotector lines confuse me`
`21:33.28`	`nevcairiel`	`nuOHEP: that buff mod thing is broken`
`21:33.37`	`nuOHEP`	`ah, k`
`21:33.48`	`SoLoR`	`ye whine to vhaarr`
`21:33.51`	`SoLoR`	`;>`
`21:34.06`	`nuOHEP`	`didnt relly bothered disabling. at kt atm`
`21:34.13`	`vhaarr`	`?`
`21:34.20`	`nuOHEP`	`vhaarr http://ace.pastey.net/5034`
`21:34.37`	`vhaarr`	`what the hell`
`21:34.44`	`SoLoR`	`^^`
`21:35.17`	`SoLoR`	`aperantly he is geting this when he is clicking on macros...`
`21:35.19`	`SoLoR`	`dunno how`
`21:35.22`	`nuOHEP`	`yeah`
`21:35.27`	`vhaarr`	`that makes no sense`
`21:35.29`	`SoLoR`	`what does macro do?`
`21:35.29`	`vhaarr`	`but okay`
`21:35.32`	`vhaarr`	`I'll "fix"`
`21:36.02`	`Matrix110`	`sylvanaar it works now:)`
`21:36.14`	`nuOHEP`	`#show Black Battlestrider /cancelaura Black Battlestrider /use Black Battlestrider`
`21:36.35`	`SoLoR`	`oh so something with buffs`
`21:36.41`	`nuOHEP`	`ah... its because of cancelaura`
`21:36.47`	`Matrix110`	`but 1 thing could you just let the Folders get extracted and not deleting everything inside the folders? that would prevent updating every Lib if SAL gets updated`
`21:37.02`	`nuOHEP`	`put /dismount instead of it and the error is gone`
`21:37.23`	`SoLoR`	`^^`
`21:37.36`	`durcyn`	`hm, yes, bpg giving me that error when i try to /cancelaura Black War Tiger from chatframe editbox too`
`21:37.57`	`SoLoR`	`well`
`21:38.04`	`SoLoR`	`blizzard invented dismount`
`21:38.06`	`SoLoR`	`;D`
`21:38.11`	`tlund`	`nuOHEP: you dont need the #show when you have the same spell/item in a /use i think?`
`21:38.11`	`vhaarr`	`try now`
`21:38.18`	`vhaarr`	`nuOHEP, durcyn`
`21:38.22`	`vhaarr`	`update and try again`
`21:38.24`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r25009 10BuffProtectorGnome/BuffProtectorGnome.lua: BuffProtectorGnome: Attempt to fix error with /cancelaura.`
`21:38.25`	`durcyn`	`kk`
`21:38.33`	`vhaarr`	`ah`
`21:38.39`	`vhaarr`	`so it's just a /cancelaura on a mount?`
`21:38.42`	`vhaarr`	`then I can test it myself`
`21:38.46`	`durcyn`	`haven't tried it with anything else`
`21:38.57`	`tlund`	`there is a new LUA functiton also, Dismount();`
`21:39.10`	`durcyn`	`yeah, error on cancelling any aura, tested with Arcane Elixir`
`21:39.38`	`durcyn`	`one minute, will try with 25009`
`21:39.47`	`vhaarr`	`works here now`
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`21:41.43`	`sylvanaar`	`Matrix110: ^.^`
`21:42.45`	`Matrix110`	`no vharr /cancelaura works for everybuff`
`21:42.52`	`nuOHEP`	`yeah... works here too. thx`
`21:43.05`	`sylvanaar`	`Matrix110: it follows the "DeleteBeforeExtract" setting for SAL just like any addon`
`21:43.12`	`vhaarr`	`Matrix110: I didn't say that it didn't work for all buffs.`
`21:43.50`	`Matrix110`	`vharr i meant that you just cant type /cancelaura to dismount that it is /cancelaura Swift Frostsaber orsmth:P`
`21:44.10`	`Matrix110`	`sylvanaar i got DeleteBeforeExtracting disabled :P`
`21:44.21`	`vhaarr`	`Matrix110: Yes, and?`
`21:44.40`	Funkeh`	`why don't you just type /dismount? :p`
`21:44.44`	`Matrix110`	`nothing i thought you thought its just /cancelaura to dismount :P`
`21:44.51`	`vhaarr`	`no`
`21:44.58`	`vhaarr`	`I didn't think that at all.`
`21:45.09`	`Matrix110`	`kk`
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`21:48.34`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r25010 10BigWigs/Other/Onyxia.lua: BigWigs: Onyxia: Fix deep breath.`
`21:49.53`	vid`	`sylvanaar: anything you are looking for feedback on with 1.7 WAU?`
`21:49.55`	`CIA-17`	`03adirelle * r25011 10AutoBar/Core.lua:`
`21:49.55`	`CIA-17`	`AutoBar:`
`21:49.55`	`CIA-17`	`- added table recycling stub to reduce memory allocation.`
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`21:51.09`	`Trancer`	`autobar doesn't seem to be resizing anymore for me`
`21:51.12`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r25012 10BigWigs/Other/Onyxia.lua: BigWigs: Onyxia: Hopefully fixed frFR.`
`21:51.18`	`Trancer`	`zomg, tlund :D`
`21:51.41`	`PProvost`	`Hey all... just created a channel #wau for discussion WowAceUpdater. Please join if you are interested.`
`21:51.41`	`Gnarfoz`	`autobar fucks up the normaltexture when you use a potion/whatever that's inside a popped up button`
`21:51.49`	`tlund`	`hello Trancer :)`
`21:51.54`	`Mikma`	`http://www.funpic.hu/files/pics/00026/00026380.jpg`
`21:52.19`	`Trancer`	`efnet staff is a pest ^^`
`21:52.37`	`Trancer`	`haha Mikma, someone got owned`
`21:52.40`	`nuOHEP`	`vhaarr, hm... now cancelaura simply does nothing for me :/ with only bpg running`
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`21:52.58`	`vhaarr`	`nuOHEP: works fine here`
`21:53.03`	`Mikma`	`Trancer: owned, and badly`
`21:53.05`	`tlund`	`Trancer: this is what I do instead of taking care of my servers ;)`
`21:53.12`	vid`	`Mikma: ouch`
`21:53.14`	`Trancer`	`tlund: I know that club ^^`
`21:53.23`	vid`	`who's poor beamer got owned? :\`
`21:53.26`	vid`	`hope thats not yours`
`21:53.45`	`InterSlayer`	`anyone know how to raise a candybar timer frame higher? Mines being obscured :o`
`21:53.58`	`Trancer`	`ircnet can run on autopilot anyway ;)`
`21:54.26`	`Trancer`	`Adirelle: had any reports of people being unable to resize autobar?`
`21:54.36`	`art3mis`	`hrm`
`21:54.41`	`art3mis`	`whathappend to oxraid?`
`21:54.44`	`art3mis`	`err ozraid?`
`21:55.02`	`art3mis`	`InterSlayer: try alt-click`
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`21:55.19`	`Adirelle`	`Trancer: no, but Toadkiller is the main maintener, you can see this with him when he'll come back`
`21:55.24`	`nuOHEP`	`well, nvm then. wont use cancelaura anymore in any case`
`21:55.39`	`Gnarfoz`	`~seen toadkiller`
`21:56.01`	`purl`	`toadkiller <n=dbester@adsl-75-18-178-60.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10h 19m 6s ago, saying: 'well in that case jsut cut & paste it'.`
`21:56.02`	`Trancer`	`Adirelle: k`
`21:56.02`	`Adirelle`	`Trancer: I just added the table thing after talking with him about it`
`21:56.03`	`Trancer`	`ah, alright, will try a new SVN pull or so tomorrow`
`21:58.32`	`art3mis`	`hrm i wish that wowace supported sections for mod type`
`21:58.38`	`art3mis`	`that would make my life so much easier`
`21:59.05`	`art3mis`	`need to find an addon that allows creation of custom buttons to swap hotbar pages`
`21:59.37`	`jkw`	`I do not recommend the latest rev of Cellular. :P`
`22:01.36`	`Xand`	`Bug with BT3....here is the screen shot: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/whatsyoursteezo/BT3error.jpg`
`22:01.50`	`Xand`	`This occurs when I drag a spell out of the pet menu`
`22:03.13`	`jkw`	`uhm`
`22:03.21`	`andremar`	`iik, anyone but me getting huge autobar breakage?`
`22:03.21`	`jkw`	`I can't do that, they are kinda locked :S`
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`22:03.52`	`nevcairiel`	`Xand: fixed`
`22:03.57`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r25013 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarClass.lua Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua): Bartender3: fixed a typo in the petbar support`
`22:04.15`	`Xand`	`Nev > Nice, thanks.`
`22:04.21`	`Sling\|Detheroc`	`Grid issues! Anyone can help me?`
`22:04.37`	`Xand`	`Grid is amazing.`
`22:04.43`	`CIA-17`	`03cncfanatics * r25014 10FlexBar2/ (ButtonEventHandler.lua ButtonTheme.lua Core.lua): FlexBar2: Started working on the channeling code [Code left in a unusable state]`
`22:04.50`	`Sling\|Detheroc`	`Grid is amazing.`
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`22:05.00`	`Sling\|Detheroc`	`But I have some weird FrameXML error sometimes.`
`22:05.07`	`Xand`	`I use to get that.`
`22:05.18`	`Xand`	`But then I dled the update.`
`22:05.18`	`Sling\|Detheroc`	`And then?`
`22:05.20`	`Xand`	`And it stopped`
`22:05.30`	`Sling\|Detheroc`	`I have all the updates, I use WoWAceUpdater`
`22:05.40`	`Xand`	`I also deleted the saved variables for it.`
`22:05.42`	`Antiar1`	`Afternoon folks`
`22:05.49`	`Xand`	`I only use to get it when I join a raid.`
`22:06.04`	`Sling\|Detheroc`	`Where the acctual person's frame would be solid gray?`
`22:06.07`	`Sling\|Detheroc`	`That thing?`
`22:06.59`	`Xand`	`Not sure.`
`22:07.07`	`Xand`	`I have not had a problem with it since.`
`22:09.40`	`PProvost`	`ANyone seeing a strange freestanding gray bar w/ today's aguf? I know it is aguf because I can lock/unlock it w/ aguf's lock option.`
`22:10.10`	`Mikma`	`:D http://www.funpic.hu/files/pics/00024/00024548.jpg`
`22:10.56`	`Xand`	`Its the part anchor. It dissapeared when I messed with party options.`
`22:11.39`	`Trancer`	`Mikma: surprised it didn't say NaN :p`
`22:12.21`	`Mikma`	`Trancer: yeah :D`
`22:13.24`	`nuOHEP`	`vhaarr, still it does not work :p here is a diff to make it work http://ace.pastey.net/5037. dunno if its the best way but it works`
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`22:14.31`	`vhaarr`	`err oops`
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`22:14.54`	`vhaarr`	`Guess I was in a hurry with that last fix.`
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`22:15.41`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ`
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`22:17.12`	`PProvost`	`Xand, yeah. Same for me. Playing w/ party options made it go away.`
`22:17.29`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r25015 10BuffProtectorGnome/BuffProtectorGnome.lua: BuffProtectorGnome: Bugfix.`
`22:18.05`	`evl`	`Anyone here running Vista?`
`22:18.16`	`evl`	`Just pondering if I should install it`
`22:18.19`	`PProvost`	`evl, me`
`22:18.25`	`PProvost`	`Since beta 2`
`22:18.41`	`evl`	`hows performance`
`22:18.58`	`PProvost`	`My framerate went up from XP -> RC1 and then back to the same on RTM.`
`22:19.03`	`PProvost`	`So net == same`
`22:19.21`	Funkeh`	`does anyone else have problems with icons since 2.0.3? incorrect icons appearing for buffs in particular`
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`22:19.47`	`evl`	`Icon problems yes :)`
`22:20.40`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r25016 10Fence/modules/Fence_Wipe.lua:`
`22:20.41`	`CIA-17`	`Fence:`
`22:20.41`	`CIA-17`	`- Wipe: Fix dragging the button. Who broke that? :p`
`22:22.08`	`yacoob`	`phyber, use svn blame :)`
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`22:22.29`	`dafire`	`hi :)`
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`22:23.56`	`dafire`	`what is the easiest way to show a tooltip ? i can change the gametooltip with SetHyperLink .. but how do I show it if it's not shown? :)`
`22:24.23`	`Kemayo`	`GameTooltip:Show()?`
`22:24.32`	`Kemayo`	`(I may be wrong there, mind.)`
`22:24.32`	`dafire`	`that does nothing .8`
`22:25.30`	`Panye`	`when using CF2, does anyone know how to increase the size of text when you right click to bring up the options of an addon on fubar?`
`22:26.09`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`It's a FuBar option`
`22:26.12`	`nuOHEP`	`dafire, try setting owner before showing doing SetHyperlink`
`22:26.32`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Panye, I think. Uh, actually, is it not affected by the ClearFont setting?`
`22:26.51`	`Deviad`	`Hey guys`
`22:26.56`	`Deviad`	`I'm downloading burning crusade :P`
`22:27.02`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`...`
`22:27.08`	`trh`	`link? :)`
`22:27.08`	`Deviad`	`For those who said it was 4 GB large it's 2,38 GB`
`22:27.11`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Torrent?`
`22:27.13`	`Panye`	`tried increasing it using the fubar option but that doesn't work with the right click option`
`22:27.25`	`Deviad`	`Kirkburn\|afk, yes`
`22:27.26`	`trh`	`at least the enGB version would be interesting :)`
`22:27.41`	`Deviad`	`that's enGB`
`22:27.43`	`Deviad`	`:P`
`22:27.46`	`Deviad`	`May I post the link?`
`22:27.49`	`dafire`	`nuOHEP: thanks ;)`
`22:27.59`	`Deviad`	`or I risk to get ganked by the admins here? :P`
`22:28.09`	`Panye`	`Daviad I think when Blizz see someone in the Outlands you'll be instabanned`
`22:28.12`	`trh`	`Dekuna: giev link plx plx:)`
`22:28.13`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`There are many torrent sites to search on :)`
`22:28.22`	`Deviad`	`Panye, I won't play before the 16th`
`22:28.24`	`trh`	`i meant Deviad giev link plx plx ;)`
`22:28.26`	`renchap`	`Panye: you cant go to outland without a key`
`22:28.28`	`dafire`	`you still need the account upgrade page ;)`
`22:28.37`	`Deviad`	`I'll get the key e-mailed by the shop on the 16th, so there's no problem :P`
`22:28.46`	`Deviad`	`http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3595275/World_of_Warcraft__The_Burning_Crusade`
`22:28.46`	`renchap`	`a friend of mine have a key`
`22:28.47`	`Panye`	`<< ownd :P`
`22:28.47`	`trh`	`Deviad: the problem is that i only get the deDE client on 16th, so i need to download the enGB anyway :)`
`22:28.52`	`renchap`	`error in his store`
`22:28.59`	`renchap`	`but the activation page isnt avaible`
`22:29.07`	`trh`	`nice, thanks :)`
`22:29.09`	`Deviad`	`I just found the link, I'm downloading it`
`22:29.25`	`Deviad`	`It's 2,33 GB large`
`22:29.34`	`Deviad`	`someone stated it had to be about 4 GB`
`22:29.52`	`Deviad`	`so since I haven't tried it yet myself I dunno if this works 100% or not`
`22:29.54`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`4 discs`
`22:29.59`	`evl`	`it's 7.6gb`
`22:30.03`	`Trancer`	`unpacked + installed it probly is 4gb`
`22:30.12`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`evl, not the total install size`
`22:30.13`	vid`	`67 files, 52 data, 15 recovery`
`22:30.13`	vid`	`Encoded: 2,468.7MB data + 380.8MB recovery = 2,849.4MB total`
`22:30.17`	`nuOHEP`	`eu beta client works just fine with live`
`22:30.21`	vid`	`thats english client`
`22:30.31`	`evl`	`7.24 GB is my enGB client`
`22:30.56`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`As I said, not the total install size, we're talking about the TBC disc data`
`22:31.07`	`trh`	`evl: can't write you - i'm still a unregistered user ;)`
`22:31.16`	`Deviad`	`evl, someone says 7, someone says 4...`
`22:31.18`	`Panye`	`so kirkburn any ideas how I can increase the font size for the right click options of an addon?`
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`22:31.31`	`Deviad`	`blizzard says beta clients do not work because of a lack of needed data`
`22:31.37`	`evl`	`Deviad: i just got this link from my online cd key store and that's the data present on the CD's.`
`22:31.39`	`Deviad`	`you say it works properly...`
`22:31.52`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Panye, not sure tbh. ClearFont2 should do it via the addon override module :/`
`22:31.56`	`trh`	`evl: can you link it? (enGB) :)`
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`22:32.11`	`gezr`	`oh wow, lots of folks now`
`22:32.27`	`Deviad`	`I bought the key from an English store and I'll get it on the 16th...`
`22:32.28`	`Xand`	`Nev > Did you remove the cooldown count from BT3?`
`22:32.28`	`Panye`	`hmm so Kirkburn maybe increase something in the code?`
`22:32.32`	`syeren`	`According to Blizzard ( A Blue post) the CD contains nothing but a CD key.`
`22:32.34`	`Deviad`	`can you give me the link evl?`
`22:32.42`	`syeren`	`As you already have downloaded the whole of TBC if you are using 2.0.1`
`22:32.46`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`syeren, link`
`22:32.52`	`syeren`	`Wait up :)`
`22:33.12`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`And that's not true, anyway`
`22:33.24`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`There's at least several discs worth of data`
`22:33.26`	`Deviad`	`syeren, WoW2005991engbinstaller1.zip WoW2005991engbinstaller2.zip`
`22:33.28`	`gezr`	`yeah everything server side is green, the disk is mainly the stuff to draw the images and so on, and the ability to access them`
`22:33.34`	`Deviad`	`That's what I have as beta client`
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`22:33.42`	`gezr`	`all the mapping data and so fourth`
`22:34.20`	`Panye`	`Kirkburn the font im using is Myriad Pro`
`22:34.49`	`Laric`	`afaik the neat thing is that if you want to reinstall after patch you just install the tbc discs and you have a 2.0.0 client at once.. less patches to redownload :P`
`22:34.52`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Panye, shouldn't make a difference ... I'm sure it was affected by the font scale when I tried it :/`
`22:35.02`	`Panye`	`hmm`
`22:35.27`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`K, I see a 2.34GB dl, 4 isos, 8,7 hours old. Looks like TBC to me.`
`22:35.42`	`evl`	`uhm`
`22:35.59`	`Laric`	`kirkburn piratebay or something?`
`22:36.21`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Nah, another, but it's probably there too`
`22:36.31`	`Deviad`	`http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=burning+crusade`
`22:36.32`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Wait, no, you're right :P`
`22:36.33`	`Deviad`	`look here`
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`22:36.36`	`syeren`	`Will I need to install from the CD? Why?`
`22:36.36`	`syeren`	`It will be necessary to have a Burning Crusade CD and a Burning Crusade authentication key in order to play The Burning Crusade expansion. There is content on the Burning Crusade CD that will need to be installed that was not included in the patches we recently released.`
`22:36.53`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`I was trying _not_ to link to a torrent, y'know`
`22:36.54`	`syeren`	`I misread :)`
`22:36.55`	`syeren`	`http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/109291454.htm`
`22:36.55`	`Deviad`	`syeren, I was talking about that post`
`22:37.54`	`Deviad`	`What I don't understand is why some people say 4 GB, some 7, some 2,33...`
`22:37.59`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`You seriously don't want to download that 'key' torrent. So obviously a keylogger :/`
`22:37.59`	`Panye`	`kirkburn sorted that problem, now how do I go about increase the guild list in my social panel?`
`22:38.10`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Deviad, 7GB is the total install size`
`22:38.12`	`nee-lap`	`Does anyone here have the problem of staying in the battleground group after leaving the battleground? <-- I know others have that like nevcairiel, but is there a workaround or fix?`
`22:38.23`	`Deviad`	`Kirkburn\|afk, do you have any link to it?`
`22:38.30`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`To what?`
`22:38.36`	`Deviad`	`to retail version`
`22:38.40`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Nope`
`22:38.46`	`Deviad`	`:(`
`22:38.48`	`Xand`	`Does anyone know if Cooldown count is decent?`
`22:39.01`	`Xand`	`Is it buggy or does it work well?`
`22:39.06`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Deviad, you mean a link to a torrent of it?`
`22:39.08`	`cynyr`	`the xml examples on wowiki need more context`
`22:39.24`	`Deviad`	`Kirkburn\|afk, yes, I just got that, so np. :)`
`22:39.37`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`heh, well you did link the page I was looking at ;)`
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`22:40.06`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Panye, cool. You want larger guild text size?`
`22:40.40`	`Panye`	`please Kirkburn`
`22:40.58`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Should be controlled the same way. I've not had a chance to look at ClearFont recently, but I shall try to soon`
`22:41.13`	`Panye`	`within the LUA code?`
`22:41.44`	`Panye`	`I'm really trying to create my own font set but to no avail :(`
`22:41.50`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Not sure which line specifically does it, sorry`
`22:42.04`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Probably GameFontNormal or GameFontNormalSmall?`
`22:42.27`	`Panye`	`I'll give it a go`
`22:43.20`	`Tain`	`Ok where did my "Addons" button go on the char select screen?`
`22:43.23`	`Panye`	`bah the code used to alot cleaner in CF1`
`22:44.01`	`vhaarr`	`There's practically no difference if you open Design.lua.`
`22:44.03`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`"Simpler", I would prefer.`
`22:44.04`	`vhaarr`	`From CF1-2.`
`22:44.26`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`And yeah, what vhaarr said :)`
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`22:44.49`	`Xand`	`So...what is better...OmniCC or cooldowncount? Anyone have any opinion?`
`22:44.59`	`Panye`	`simpler is a better word yeah, I've opened the design.lua using notebook, and the code of old used to be nicely set out`
`22:45.07`	`Srosh`	`whatever works better for you, Xand`
`22:45.18`	`Xand`	`Is there any major differance?`
`22:45.28`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Panye, it still is, it's just further down the page! :P`
`22:45.29`	`Panye`	`I prefer OmniCC`
`22:45.58`	`Panye`	`Kirkburn it doesn't go down it goes across :P`
`22:46.10`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`eh?`
`22:46.46`	`PProvost`	`vhaarr, you still need a formatting pass over AGUF? It turns out that vim is automatic... I just forgot the command last night. :)`
`22:46.53`	`Panye`	`when opened in notepad the code scrolls right across the page, not down like it used to in CF1`
`22:47.04`	`groll`	`Kirkburn\|afk did u get my pm?`
`22:47.09`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Works fine for me, Panye`
`22:47.23`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Oh yeah, sorry groll`
`22:47.27`	`Panye`	`hmmm, what you using to open it?`
`22:47.32`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Wordpad`
`22:47.39`	`groll`	`np just wanted to see if u got it so u know about it :D`
`22:47.49`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Oh wow`
`22:47.54`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Notepad not so good`
`22:48.06`	`Panye`	`ok :( recommendations?`
`22:48.22`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Open with Wordpad?`
`22:49.24`	`Panye`	`legend, thats much better`
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`22:50.15`	`CIA-17`	`03karlthepagan * r25017 10Grouper/ (GrouperAce.lua GrouperCore.lua):`
`22:50.15`	`CIA-17`	`Grouper:`
`22:50.16`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:50.16`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`22:51.33`	`nee-lap`	`Can SCT compress/combine damage/healing?`
`22:51.41`	`nee-lap`	`well, any events?`
`22:52.39`	`Panye`	`Kirkburn one last question.. sorry.. when changing code, do I have to keep logging in/out of WoW or can I simply do a UI reload?`
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`22:55.15`	`CIA-17`	`03antiarc * r25018 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua SanityDisplay.lua localization_enUS.lua): Sanity2: Added options to allow you to change the color of the tooltip info Sanity adds.`
`22:55.18`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`reload should work`
`22:56.31`	`CIA-17`	`03arjuna * r25019 10simpleMinimap/modules/coords.lua:`
`22:56.31`	`CIA-17`	`simpleMinimap:`
`22:56.31`	`CIA-17`	`- more tweaks to coords module instance hide`
`22:57.01`	`CIA-17`	`03progman * r25020 10HealOrganizer3/ (HealOrganizer3.lua HealOrganizer3.toc HealOrganizer3.xml):`
`22:57.01`	`CIA-17`	`HealOrganizer3:`
`22:57.02`	`CIA-17`	`- Labels of groups become buttons instead of FontStrings`
`22:57.02`	`CIA-17`	`- remove old going frames on an update`
`22:58.25`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`groll, it doesn't seem to be saving options for me, I've noticed`
`22:58.35`	`PigBenis`	`hey after the changes to wow api does AutoBuff work anymore?`
`22:58.50`	`PigBenis`	`need something to auto cast Battle Shout for me =D`
`22:58.56`	`KarlThePagan`	`can't do that`
`22:59.07`	`PigBenis`	`darn`
`23:00.20`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r25021 10Bidder_ZSumAuction/localization.enUS.lua: Bidder_ZSumAuction: add enUS localization file (it got removed somehow).`
`23:00.31`	`PProvostAFK`	`Panye, you can just reload as long as you don't change the TOC. If you change the TOC you gotta restart the client`
`23:01.07`	`trh`	`actually.. if you change stuff with fonts and textures in .xml files the client tends to crash pretty easy :(`
`23:01.21`	`CIA-17`	`03fatherjim * r25022 10loudmouth/ (loudmouth.lua loudmouth.xml):`
`23:01.21`	`CIA-17`	`loudmouth:`
`23:01.21`	`CIA-17`	`- Help Text included for testing...`
`23:01.30`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Ah bollocks, no beta realm to test on :/`
`23:02.21`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`ckknight, ever since your ClearFont changes, it doesn't seem to save settings or scale the normal game fonts for me :/`
`23:02.30`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`It's really odd`
`23:05.25`	`Tain`	`Holy crap I have been using ClearFont for so long I just logged in without any addons and the chat font looks so ugly to me.`
`23:05.39`	`cynyr`	`the xml examples on wowiki need more context "this:RegisterForClicks("kdskj", "kajdh");" isn't all that helpful`
`23:05.50`	`art3mis`	`whast that addon that shows a frame of all the items that you've looted an who got them?`
`23:06.25`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`cynyr, feel like providing that context then? :)`
`23:06.32`	`phyber`	`art3mis: XLoot?`
`23:06.35`	`abyssichate`	`XlootMonitor?`
`23:06.52`	`PProvostAFK`	`Anyone else seeing occasional icon screwups in 2.0.4? I'm wondering if my patch forked somehow.`
`23:07.00`	`cynyr`	`Kirkburn\|afk: if i could figure it out then yes, i would....`
`23:07.02`	`art3mis`	`hrm yeah ive got taht but i cant find the menu to bring up the monitor frame`
`23:07.14`	`Saroz`	`So many DKP mods`
`23:07.15`	`abyssichate`	`PProvostAFK: I've had that since 2.0.3`
`23:07.17`	`Saroz`	`make one IMO`
`23:07.34`	`PProvostAFK`	`Okay. Driving me nuts.`
`23:07.40`	`trh`	`Saroz: there are many dkp-systems :)`
`23:07.53`	`cynyr`	`Kirkburn\|afk: i'm just learning how to make a frame.. and would like to have my addon do Message("hello") when i click on it...`
`23:08.10`	`Saroz`	`trh, one mod, many systems`
`23:08.10`	`Saroz`	`gogo`
`23:08.36`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`cynyr, I know there are several guides on the wiki, but I can't help you wiht specifics :(`
`23:08.40`	`trh`	`Saroz: naa.. just look (screenshots, descriptions) for the addon that fits best :)`
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`23:09.22`	`cynyr`	`Kirkburn\|afk: i know, that was a quote from the API doc for Butoon registerforclicks`
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`23:13.49`	`Smeltn`	`so eepanels is completely bugged out for me now`
`23:14.18`	`Mikma`	`http://www.funpic.hu/files/pics/00017/00017178.jpg`
`23:14.31`	`Kelben`	`Any idea why aguf adds a grey bar to the top left of my screen?`
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`23:14.49`	`Smeltn`	`is it a grey bar thats half overlapping?`
`23:14.59`	`Kelben`	`its a grey bar`
`23:15.05`	`Kelben`	`not sure about the overlapping part`
`23:17.12`	`Kelben`	`any ideas?`
`23:17.33`	`MackaNgrr`	`bugged xp bar maybe?`
`23:17.56`	`MackaNgrr`	`remove xp bar and reload ui if that could be the prob`
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`23:19.10`	`Kelben`	`err i just ctrl clicked it and it open a group filters menu then the bar vanished : /`
`23:19.33`	`MackaNgrr`	`hah`
`23:19.44`	`IsoLnCHiP`	`Btw is there any sort of plan for patchday? Has anyone considdered packaging the current versions of the ace addons as torrent?`
`23:20.13`	`Kelben`	`oh and Toad was on earlier but autobar is totally broken here`
`23:20.23`	`abyssichate`	`same here`
`23:20.48`	`Kelben`	`some message about cancast`
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`23:22.15`	`Kelben`	`Message: ..\AddOns\AutoBar\AutoBarProfile.lua line 327: attempt to call global 'CanCastSpell' (a nil value)`
`23:22.34`	`Kelben`	`Message: ..\AddOns\AutoBar\Core.lua line 236: Usage: ClearOverrideBindings(owner)`
`23:22.43`	`Kelben`	`Message: ..\AddOns\AutoBar\Core.lua line 504: attempt to index field 'buttons' (a nil value)`
`23:23.05`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: You should get BugSack/BugGrabber.`
`23:23.12`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r25023 10Bidder_ZSumAuction/localization.enUS.lua: Bidder_ZSumAuction: Fix copy & paste error.`
`23:23.52`	`gezr`	`is eraslin in here now by chance?`
`23:23.55`	`evl`	`ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'FuBar' tried to call the protected function 'CastSpellByName()`
`23:24.00`	`evl`	`When I run a macro? :D`
`23:24.11`	`Kelben`	`hmmm using swatter - actually going to ask which is better :S`
`23:24.12`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r25024 10CooldownCount/ (9 files):`
`23:24.12`	`CIA-17`	`CooldownCount:`
`23:24.12`	`CIA-17`	`- renamed localization files`
`23:24.43`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: You're not using Swatter, you just happen to have it because it's bundled with Auctioneer.`
`23:24.49`	`vhaarr`	`Kelben: And Bugsack pwns it.`
`23:25.51`	`Kelben`	`@vhaarr - its true I'm using it due the bundle but I actually turned it on to catch the autobar errors, but i'll grab bugsack`
`23:26.11`	`vhaarr`	`and buggrabber`
`23:26.39`	`Kelben`	`is buggrabber not a wowace mod?`
`23:26.46`	`evl`	`they both are`
`23:26.50`	`evl`	`one grabs, the other displays`
`23:26.58`	`Kelben`	`nevermind - !buggrabber : /`
`23:27.20`	`Adirelle`	`Kelben : your bug may have been addressed one or two revision later`
`23:27.25`	`Adirelle`	`does it happens with last rev ?`
`23:27.32`	`Adirelle`	`-later +earlier`
`23:27.51`	`Kelben`	`I just updated autobar twice today and both revisions had the error`
`23:29.05`	`Mikma`	`here's an easy way of getting yourself killed http://www.funpic.hu/files/pics/00000/00000904.jpg`
`23:30.59`	`Gnarfoz`	`<+vhaarr> Kelben: You're not using Swatter, you just happen to have it because it's bundled with Auctioneer. <- Kelben: you're most likely not using swatter because some ace zealot was nice enough to put some code into either buggrabber or bugsack to 'kill' swatter`
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`23:31.10`	`Gnarfoz`	`(a while back)`
`23:31.22`	`vhaarr`	`I did that.`
`23:31.26`	`Gnarfoz`	`I know.`
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`23:31.51`	`vhaarr`	`Swatter kills itself now if it finds BugGrabber running.`
`23:31.59`	`vhaarr`	`So I could just remove that code.`
`23:32.40`	`haste`	`Anyone else experienced that the TBC client is 25x times faster then Live at starting up?`
`23:32.43`	`Kelben`	`how is it different? I still see the same errors`
`23:33.01`	`Gnarfoz`	`took ckk to make it non-destructive, though ^^`
`23:33.05`	`haste`	`I honestly find it strange that Live uses 30+ seconds, while TBC uses 1-3 sec`
`23:33.12`	`haste`	`(this is till I see the Login screen)`
`23:33.20`	`\|Kev\|`	`less mods?`
`23:33.28`	`haste`	`they share exactly the same Interface and WTF folder`
`23:33.30`	`Kelben`	`[2007/01/13 16:31:53-2-x1]: AutoBar-2.00.00.26 beta\AutoBarProfile.lua:327: attempt to call global 'CanCastSpell' (a nil value)`
`23:33.31`	`Gnarfoz`	`mods are not loaded before the login screen?`
`23:33.31`	`Gnarfoz`	`;]`
`23:33.53`	`gezr`	`eraslin howdy`
`23:33.56`	`haste`	`they also run the same settings in Cedega`
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`23:34.13`	`haste`	`http://hastey.pastey.net/5044-rs49 << speed difference and fragmentation isn't that large either`
`23:34.32`	`Gnarfoz`	`I find it annoying how the username/password boxes now (since 2.0.3 live) take some time to fade in`
`23:34.33`	`Gnarfoz`	`:\`
`23:34.35`	`Eraslin`	`Gezr: Hello to you too`
`23:34.37`	`CrisCr0ss`	`"I am still looking for some employment! I have a very good german Diploma (Master) in Education, but I guess you know my coding skills better than that. Opportunities near Muenster/Osnabrueck or TeleJobs are welcome."`
`23:34.39`	`CrisCr0ss`	`aw i feel bad`
`23:35.03`	`gezr`	`eraslin been a long time since Ive used bitchx so its going to take me some time to remember wtf2do heh`
`23:35.06`	`CIA-17`	`03totalpackage * r25025 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua):`
`23:35.06`	`CIA-17`	`Cellular`
`23:35.06`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed window not popping up for the first outgoing whisper, sigh`
`23:35.25`	`Eraslin`	`I'm in the same boat. I'm not a big irc user myself ;)`
`23:35.58`	`gezr`	`I used to mod dalnet #linux a long time ago, so shouldnt take too long for me to remember things, just odd anymore for me when im not moding`
`23:37.31`	vid`	`Gnarfoz: yea`
`23:37.32`	`jeffrey`	`irssi is the best irc client`
`23:37.36`	vid`	`i thought my computer was fucked up`
`23:37.40`	vid`	`glad to know its not just me :P`
`23:37.42`	`CrisCr0ss`	`i like mIRC`
`23:37.50`	`jeffrey`	`mirc is just fine, yes`
`23:37.53`	`Gnarfoz`	`yea... it has to be a change in the client`
`23:37.55`	vid`	`maybe its scanning to make sure tehres nothing hooking the user/password box`
`23:37.55`	`Kelben`	`whats the website address to access older versions of mods?`
`23:38.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`dunno`
`23:39.19`	`haste`	`I figure it out, wee :3`
`23:40.47`	*** join/#wowace Lisa` (n=lisa@cpc1-leed12-0-0-cust831.leed.cable.ntl.com)
`23:41.30`	Lisa`	`hey guys, anyone using simpleminimap?`
`23:41.52`	`Saroz`	Funkeh`, give warning on Emerald Dragons 25% abils :p
`23:42.31`	`Kelben`	`@lisa - yes`
`23:43.05`	Lisa`	`i updated it today but im getting an error to do with the coordinates`
`23:43.15`	Lisa`	`[2007/01/13 23:39:55-32-x8858]: simpleMinimap-20003-1\modules\coords.lua:315: attempt to index local 'self' (a nil value)`
`23:43.15`	Lisa`	`simpleMinimap-20003-1\modules\coords.lua:309: in function <Interface\AddOns\simpleMinimap\modules\coords.lua:309>`
`23:43.20`	Lisa`	`if that means anything? >_<`
`23:43.25`	`Kelben`	`rofl - that i can't help you with`
`23:43.29`	Lisa`	`eek`
`23:43.33`	`Kelben`	`I'm a user not a coder ; /`
`23:43.39`	Lisa`	`ahh oki`
`23:43.43`	`*** join/#wowace Gnarfoz_ (i=smallbra@unaffiliated/gnarfoz)`
`23:43.53`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r25026 10DKPmon/Awarding/awardframe.lua: DKPmon: Fixed filly localization issue.`
`23:45.32`	`yacoob`	`I'm a doctor, not a coder!`
`23:46.03`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ`
`23:46.19`	`trh`	Lisa`: it sounds like a file doesn't got loaded (maybe the addon is in the wrong path) or the coder failed miserably :)
`23:46.30`	`Sparkz`	`anyone know of specific mods that absolutely kills performance after the latest two patches? I'm down to 12fps from around 40`
`23:46.53`	Lisa`	`couple of others i know using it and they dont get any errors`
`23:47.01`	`malifae`	`anyone know which addon makes alot of gonging noises while in a raid?`
`23:47.01`	Lisa`	`everything else for the simpleminimap addon is working though`
`23:47.02`	`trh`	`Sparkz: try a binary search - disable all mods, if its better, disable only one half and so on`
`23:49.03`	`trh`	Lisa`: got a downloadlink for the addon?
`23:49.31`	`CIA-17`	`03jerry * r25027 10Talented/ (8 files):`
`23:49.31`	`CIA-17`	`Talented:`
`23:49.31`	`CIA-17`	`_ Added support for wowhead template format for exportation.`
`23:49.31`	`CIA-17`	`_ Added template compression for the database.`
`23:49.31`	`CIA-17`	`_ Added support for transmitting template through Addon channels.`
`23:49.31`	`CIA-17`	`_ Added a Prat module to write template links to chat. Other users of the same class can open the link to see the corresponding template in the Talented frame.`
`23:50.11`	Lisa`	`trh i used wowace updater which im assuming would be this - http://www.wowace.com/files/simpleMinimap/simpleMinimap-r25019.zip`
`23:50.24`	`Gnarfoz_`	`<haste> I figure it out, wee :3 <-- you did, or you will? ^^`
`23:50.46`	`*** join/#wowace jeffrey (n=jeffrey@unaffiliated/Jeffrey)`
`23:52.26`	`CIA-17`	`03jerry * r25028 10Talented_Data/ (. Core.lua Talented_Data.toc): Talented_Data: initial import`
`23:53.11`	`haste`	`Gnarfoz_: I did`
`23:53.53`	`Gnarfoz_`	`so, what's the deal with the client loading way faster? ^^`
`23:53.57`	`haste`	`Gnarfoz_: I had some very old model replacementts in my Data folder, seem like the client had to extract the correct once everytime I loaded, as the CRC didn't match - removing those fixed it at least :)`
`23:53.59`	`*** join/#wowace stavmar (n=mstav@adsl-70-135-75-78.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net)`
`23:54.06`	`Gnarfoz_`	`ah`
`23:54.08`	`Gnarfoz_`	`heh`
`23:54.16`	`*** join/#wowace Lytning (n=lol@ool-45744a25.dyn.optonline.net)`
`23:54.25`	`stavmar`	`are there any issues with GrindStatus right now? Or is it working fine?`
`23:54.30`	`haste`	`and I got to defrag my HD :)`
`23:54.35`	`haste`	`which made things even faster :3`
`23:55.26`	`Luthorhuss`	`Has anyone experienced a bug with eepanels lately.. ?`
`23:55.29`	`Lytning`	`Hey, quick question. For coolDown, how do you move the monitor?`
`23:56.28`	`sylvanaar`	`hey neat-o`
`23:56.44`	`trh`	Lisa`: the mod works on my wow
`23:56.57`	`trh`	Lisa`: maybe wau extracted a file wrong
`23:57.03`	`trh`	Lisa`: try to update it manually
`23:57.09`	`yacoob`	`hm`
`23:57.22`	`yacoob`	`anyone seen some pages describing the technical sides of mmorpgs?`
`23:57.38`	`yacoob`	`like, network traffic, managing sessions and so on?`
`23:58.15`	`trh`	`yacoob: i think there is some academic work on it.. you should try to search it with a academic search engine`
`23:58.19`	`Smeltn`	`so I dont see GMail listed on WowAceupdater`
`23:58.24`	`Smeltn`	`is there a new mail mod?`
`23:58.29`	`abyssichate`	`Postal I guess`
`23:59.29`	Lisa`	`trh i deleted the folder and updated it manually... works now lol`
`23:59.56`	`trh`	Lisa`: fine ^^

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