| 00:00.00 | Mikma | no hunters and shamans around? :( |
| 00:00.09 | hydh | what addon would recommend me to use for scanning auctions |
| 00:03.11 | Amadeo | Milla Jovovich on Sci-Fi :D |
| 00:04.06 | steev | ok, maybe i missed something |
| 00:04.06 | Mikma | huntards and shamanans! i need your help |
| 00:04.23 | steev | why are low levels running around on mounts? |
| 00:04.41 | trh_ | steev: theres a quest for alliance which gives them a mount for 10 minutes or so |
| 00:04.49 | steev | ahh |
| 00:05.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikma: beastmastery for hunters, enhancement for shamans. |
| 00:05.33 | trh_ | Mikma: i use MM with t2 equip.. worked good so far |
| 00:06.03 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: I think if he's asking, he probably doensn't have a t2 geared hunter. :P |
| 00:06.09 | trh_ | Mikma: but for 0-60 you should stick to bm |
| 00:06.16 | trh_ | NightHawkTheSane: you never know =) |
| 00:06.28 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: true, true. |
| 00:06.53 | trh_ | NightHawkTheSane: i've seen people in t3 asking total noobie questions... kinda weird |
| 00:06.59 | Mikma | trh_: so, you got any good talenttree for me? :) |
| 00:07.06 | Feldia | trh_: it's called ebay |
| 00:07.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 00:07.25 | trh_ | Mikma: depends on your gear and playstyle.. if your gear is crap, use BM |
| 00:07.37 | Mikma | trh_: well, 0-70 .. :) |
| 00:07.45 | trh_ | Mikma: put points everywhere that does either a) damage or b) lets the pet get less damage |
| 00:07.50 | Mikma | the gear is crap and i have no idea about huntahs |
| 00:07.59 | trh_ | Mikma: then beastmastery is your choice |
| 00:08.24 | Mikma | trh_: thanks. these advices i told to my wife :) |
| 00:10.04 | [FH]Birdemani | how do you get a reminder on your nickserv password? |
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| 00:14.21 | stavmar | cladhaire, Do you have a second? |
| 00:15.32 | kergoth | hrm |
| 00:15.43 | kergoth | is it expected that the baggins all in one sorted bag doesnt remember its position |
| 00:15.44 | kergoth | ? |
| 00:15.54 | kergoth | i move it somewhere, close it, open it, and its back in its old location |
| 00:16.01 | Adirelle | kergoth : automatic bag layout ? |
| 00:16.05 | Amadeo | oooh, it has a sorted bag? I should try that |
| 00:16.29 | kergoth | Amadeo, it lets you put whatever categories you want into whatever bags you want |
| 00:16.37 | Mikma | kergoth: atleast i didn't get the positions saved in previous revisions. now i haven't even tried it |
| 00:16.41 | kergoth | Amadeo, includes a profile to put all the cats in one bag to start |
| 00:16.46 | kergoth | Adirelle, yep |
| 00:16.50 | kergoth | Adirelle, known behavior? |
| 00:17.10 | Adirelle | if you want it to remember its location, disable automatic layout |
| 00:17.13 | Amadeo | kergoth: I installed it once for a few minutes, but never really played with it...I guess it does more than I thought |
| 00:17.19 | Amadeo | time to mess with it again |
| 00:17.31 | Adirelle | actually, lock bag and automatic bag layout should be linked |
| 00:17.51 | Adirelle | maybe this would be less confusing |
| 00:18.17 | kergoth | that seems a bit strange to me.. even with automatic layout of all my individual bags, wouldnt there be a way to anchor the group of the bags, so i at least know what section of the screen they're going to show up in? |
| 00:18.36 | Adirelle | there is such option |
| 00:18.36 | Adirelle | wait |
| 00:18.45 | kergoth | maybe i missed it |
| 00:18.52 | Adirelle | define layout bound or something like this |
| 00:19.01 | Adirelle | (I don't remember enUS string) |
| 00:19.03 | kergoth | naturally i'm going manual with all in one anyway, just talking theoretical :) |
| 00:19.10 | Adirelle | lol |
| 00:19.23 | Adirelle | baggins may benefit from a good wiki page :) |
| 00:19.27 | kergoth | aha, cool |
| 00:19.42 | kergoth | yeah, theres a lot of options there, almost overwhelming.. but the default profiles are a big help |
| 00:20.03 | Adirelle | er... I think I didn't say what I want to ;) |
| 00:20.14 | Adirelle | I meant a wiki page would be great for baggins :D |
| 00:20.22 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:21.55 | Amadeo | This all-in-one bag is nice...is it my entire inventory, or does it miss some items? |
| 00:22.49 | kergoth | the other bag seems to pick up stuff that wasnt picked up by the other categories, not certain though |
| 00:24.06 | Adirelle | Amadeo: the "other" section collects all that could be not sorted in other sections |
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| 00:25.04 | Amadeo | I see |
| 00:25.25 | Amadeo | Netherweave Cloth isn't a Trade Good? |
| 00:25.39 | Adirelle | well, I planned to sanitize the option dropdown, maybe should I do it tomorrow, if I'm too buzy in leveling :) |
| 00:26.18 | Adirelle | amadeo : alt+right click, you should correct this manually |
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| 00:28.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Adirelle: oh wow, i never knew that. You're so my hero now. :) |
| 00:28.24 | Adirelle | (Baggins definiitively needs a wiki page...) |
| 00:28.51 | Adirelle | btw, you can get info on items with this |
| 00:29.11 | Adirelle | that can help to build rules |
| 00:29.13 | Adirelle | ... |
| 00:29.27 | Adirelle | "build rule based this object" |
| 00:29.35 | Adirelle | would be a smart idea |
| 00:29.41 | Amadeo | ah cool |
| 00:30.53 | Adirelle | er... people... there IS a wiki page : http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Baggins |
| 00:31.57 | kergoth | [2007/01/20 17:30:46-2333-x1]: Sieve-0.1-1234 (Baggins):464: attempt to call local 'type' (a nil value) |
| 00:31.57 | kergoth | Sieve-0.1-1234 (Baggins):1041: in function `OnRuleChanged' |
| 00:31.57 | kergoth | Baggins-Beta 1\Baggins.lua:2493: in function `func' |
| 00:32.19 | [FH]Birdemani | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=69997048&sid=10 |
| 00:32.41 | Adirelle | purl, Baggins is a bag addon that allows sorting of items, see http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Baggins for details |
| 00:32.45 | purl | ...but baggins is already something else... |
| 00:33.12 | Thrae | ~baggins |
| 00:33.14 | purl | hmm... baggins is a hippie |
| 00:33.19 | Adirelle | ... |
| 00:33.26 | Adirelle | purl, Baggins is also a bag addon that allows sorting of items, see http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Baggins for details |
| 00:33.27 | purl | okay, Adirelle |
| 00:33.46 | Adirelle | ~baggins |
| 00:33.47 | purl | i heard baggins is a hippie, or a bag addon that allows sorting of items, see http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Baggins for details |
| 00:33.52 | Adirelle | fine |
| 00:34.01 | Adirelle | :D |
| 00:35.00 | Adirelle | good bot, purl |
| 00:38.10 | Azurewrath | ~flee |
| 00:38.11 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 00:39.05 | kergoth | damn baggins is flexible |
| 00:39.27 | Adirelle | kergoth: don't forget to save your config (profiles)... |
| 00:40.03 | NightHawkTheSane | kergoth: i did the exact same thing. :P |
| 00:40.50 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:42.07 | Adirelle | hey, Nargiddley added a new skin :) |
| 00:42.13 | Adirelle | didn't checked it :) |
| 00:43.41 | NightHawkTheSane | I've been digging the blizzard skin myself. looks nice. |
| 00:44.14 | kergoth | yeah it does, i was surprised :) |
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| 00:47.39 | Adirelle | kergoth: I commited a fix for your error, could you update and test it ? |
| 00:48.13 | kergoth | i'll try. just hit it while i was making a reagents category and putting it in the all in one bag |
| 00:49.21 | Adirelle | i'll try quickly |
| 00:49.25 | Adirelle | was lazy to restart wow |
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| 00:50.26 | Adirelle | ~seen kodewulf |
| 00:50.52 | purl | kodewulf <n=kodewulf@220-253-39-132.VIC.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 13h 53m 34s ago, saying: 'ckknight: wish list updated. :)'. |
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| 01:00.21 | Adirelle | the hide duplicates features isn't easy to use |
| 01:00.36 | Adirelle | well, goot sleep anyway |
| 01:00.38 | Adirelle | night all |
| 01:03.37 | nee|lap | Oh cool, indeed oSkin looks nice |
| 01:05.21 | Parak | hrm, anyone happen to be using cureany on clique? |
| 01:06.07 | cladhaire | you can't use cureany |
| 01:06.11 | cladhaire | doesn't exist anymore. |
| 01:07.37 | Parak | aha :p |
| 01:07.41 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 01:07.45 | cladhaire | blizzard disabled that functionality |
| 01:07.56 | Toku` | does anyone know if there is a function to check weapon type D:? |
| 01:08.18 | Parak | that'll learn me to try and use functions after coming back to play after four months |
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| 01:09.08 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 01:13.17 | Toku` | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_IsEquippedItemType |
| 01:13.18 | Amadeo | Thottbot doesn't have a very good item list for crafting |
| 01:13.19 | Toku` | someone hralp :< |
| 01:14.53 | Meiun|DETH | thottbot is kinda sucky :t |
| 01:15.09 | Amadeo | What else do people use? I hate Allakhazam |
| 01:16.36 | stavmar | cladhaire, is PRaid gong to show Mana again |
| 01:16.59 | cladhaire | uncomment the manabar:Hide() line |
| 01:17.00 | cladhaire | and yes =) |
| 01:17.47 | Toku` | does anyone know why IsEquippedItemType("type") wont work ? |
| 01:18.11 | Meiun|DETH | Amadeo wowhead.com |
| 01:20.07 | Amadeo | I'm surprised people use wowhead still, I couldn't believe the banner ads when I went there without AdBlock |
| 01:20.40 | Toku` | can someone help me with this macro :(? |
| 01:20.40 | Amadeo | Well, on the talent calc at least |
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| 01:22.07 | kenlyric|home | Amadeo: you mean compared to the banner adds on alla or thott? |
| 01:23.38 | kenlyric|home | mine are always for layne bryant. |
| 01:23.39 | Amadeo | You can close the ads on Thottbot |
| 01:23.58 | kenlyric|home | OMG THERE ARE ADS ON THE INTERNET! |
| 01:24.41 | kenlyric|home | now, get back in the game and do the Burger King Whopper of Elite quest. |
| 01:24.46 | Amadeo | That's why I use AdBlock :) |
| 01:24.55 | Amadeo | Ads are fine until they get in the way |
| 01:25.09 | Amadeo | and on most of the pages out there, they get in the way |
| 01:25.52 | kenlyric|home | yeah, I wish they weren't on top, but that's what happens when you get bought about IGE (or whichever one is the internet raping group and not the goldfarming group) |
| 01:26.06 | kenlyric|home | I always get the two confused. |
| 01:26.31 | Amadeo | It's sad when a good page gets ruined by ads |
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| 01:26.52 | kenlyric|home | yeah, you don't know ruined, apparently. |
| 01:26.55 | kenlyric|home | wowhead still > * |
| 01:27.07 | Meiun|DETH | yez |
| 01:27.09 | kenlyric|home | <3 comment ranking |
| 01:27.23 | Amadeo | Speaking of ads, did wowinterface always have all these ads on it? |
| 01:27.31 | kenlyric|home | yes, yes it did. |
| 01:27.50 | Antiarc | Death: [The Exorcism Bubbling Slimer Bunny (DND)] |
| 01:27.51 | Antiarc | What. |
| 01:27.52 | kenlyric|home | one of the reasons I used worldofwar.net, their ads were more reasonably placed. |
| 01:28.56 | Feldia | their ad banners always take alot longer to load though |
| 01:29.06 | Amadeo | Good to see that they're so relevant to WoW or gaming - Smokin' Aces ad, Virgin Mobile ad, Dish networks... :P |
| 01:29.48 | snurre- | hmm.. 200 arcane dust o.O |
| 01:29.56 | snurre- | that could sell for a bit i guess |
| 01:29.58 | Meiun|DETH | :o |
| 01:30.07 | snurre- | 88 greater planar essence |
| 01:30.18 | Meiun|DETH | lots of luck with greens? :P |
| 01:30.34 | snurre- | not much luck, they drop like flies in instances |
| 01:30.36 | snurre- | and lots from questing |
| 01:30.45 | Ordog | uhm |
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| 01:30.50 | Meiun|DETH | i never win them |
| 01:30.51 | Meiun|DETH | :< |
| 01:31.04 | snurre- | i dont win much either, others have way more |
| 01:31.20 | snurre- | one of my friends got 275 greens in his alts inboxc |
| 01:31.46 | Ordog | the wiki page http://www.wowwiki.com/Comparison_of_Aldor_and_Scryer_rewards is not showing the live server facts right? |
| 01:32.19 | Amadeo | Speaking of, I still don't know what to pick :( |
| 01:35.01 | Ordog | im a bit of clueless too ^^ |
| 01:35.07 | Hjalte | Ordog, I couldnt find anywhere to see the rewards on the live servers. Can you? |
| 01:35.09 | Ordog | since im a shaman ... |
| 01:35.50 | Ordog | nope im jumping through shattrath atm comparing .. |
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| 01:37.51 | snurre- | hm, time to make some 18slots i guess |
| 01:37.54 | Ordog | 200 arcane dust would be around 300g on my server atm, thats already the min because on average an item disenchanting for 3 of em is worth ~5g |
| 01:38.05 | vhaarr | Anyone know where I can get the quests for specializing in Alchemy? I've got the quest for transmutation mastery, but I want the other one. |
| 01:38.05 | Hjalte | Ordog, I didnt seem to find any quartermasters showing me the rewards |
| 01:38.10 | Ordog | im the first selling imbued netherweave bags on my server ;P |
| 01:38.24 | Ordog | 60-89g atm guess i could give it a little boost *eg* |
| 01:38.24 | snurre- | i didnt bother figuring out what was worth de'ing or not |
| 01:38.31 | snurre- | had about 100ish greens, just took it all |
| 01:38.38 | snurre- | all 60-69 |
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| 01:40.24 | Ordog | whats imbued netherweave bag worth on your server? |
| 01:43.56 | Gnarfoz_ | what's it do? :> |
| 01:44.02 | Gnarfoz_ | 20 slot normal bag? |
| 01:44.33 | snurre- | 18 |
| 01:44.36 | Gnarfoz_ | oh |
| 01:44.38 | snurre- | dunno the going price |
| 01:44.43 | snurre- | not too bothered right now tho |
| 01:44.49 | Gnarfoz_ | whatever :> got 18s already, b ut I guess I could fill up on them ;) |
| 01:44.50 | snurre- | more interested in getting my char working properly :p |
| 01:44.57 | snurre- | nothing more to spend gold on anyway :D |
| 01:45.17 | snurre- | even though i kind wanna earn back the mount |
| 01:45.29 | Gnarfoz_ | I'm broke... pushing my 60/75 enchanting from back when disenchanting everything was possible up to 300 was expensive |
| 01:45.30 | Saroz | anyone here running the _herbalism module? |
| 01:45.35 | Amadeo | snurre-: Just fly around and kill everyone |
| 01:45.40 | Gnarfoz_ | Saroz: *raises hand* |
| 01:45.59 | Saroz | Gnarfoz_, can you make it only display nodes when you have herbalism tracking enabled? |
| 01:46.03 | Gnarfoz_ | yes |
| 01:46.04 | Saroz | same for mining etc? |
| 01:46.11 | Saroz | gogo |
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| 01:46.21 | Gnarfoz_ | oh |
| 01:46.22 | Gnarfoz_ | wait |
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| 01:46.26 | Gnarfoz_ | with herbalism tracking enable |
| 01:46.29 | Saroz | aye |
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| 01:46.35 | Saroz | the tracker state |
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| 01:46.45 | Gnarfoz_ | dunno bout that, I always thought the switch for 'with profession' was for 'if your character has the profession' |
| 01:46.49 | Gnarfoz_ | I'll have a look, though |
| 01:46.51 | Saroz | it is |
| 01:47.04 | Saroz | but I dont care about herb nodes if I dont have herb buff enabled |
| 01:47.24 | Saroz | the tracking buff |
| 01:47.35 | Gnarfoz_ | I see what you mean |
| 01:47.38 | Saroz | :på |
| 01:47.47 | Gnarfoz_ | but it don't think that's implemented (yet? sounds like a nice feature) |
| 01:48.14 | Saroz | is there a feature tracker somewhere? |
| 01:48.46 | Saroz | would also be nice if mining nodes sent via noteshare wasnt shown as questionmarks if you dont have _mining installed, kindda sucks to have your map flooded with nodes you cant hide |
| 01:49.02 | Saroz | and vendors etc |
| 01:49.24 | Gnarfoz_ | err |
| 01:49.48 | Gnarfoz_ | I think a recent commit made it so Cart ignores notes shared to it, if you don't have the right module installed |
| 01:49.53 | Gnarfoz_ | or something of that kind |
| 01:49.58 | Saroz | hrm okay |
| 01:50.46 | Gnarfoz_ | yeah |
| 01:50.50 | Gnarfoz_ | 25602 - Cartographer-Notes - no longer accept notes from modules which you do not have. |
| 01:51.06 | Gnarfoz_ | dunn if that's exactly it |
| 01:51.06 | Saroz | ah cool |
| 01:55.47 | Saroz | WTB cartographer_cleanup :) |
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| 02:08.58 | Antiarc | What's the recommended Ace quest tracking mod? |
| 02:09.09 | Saroz | guestfu I guess |
| 02:09.13 | Antiarc | Other than QuestFu, which feels too unwieldly for me. |
| 02:09.19 | Saroz | QuestFu |
| 02:09.25 | Saroz | I use MonkeyQuest |
| 02:09.30 | fatbrain | I use EQL3 |
| 02:09.34 | fatbrain | (non ace tho) |
| 02:09.41 | Saroz | EQL3? |
| 02:09.50 | vid` | questfu |
| 02:09.50 | vid` | ! |
| 02:09.51 | Saroz | linkz |
| 02:09.52 | fatbrain | Extended QuestLog 3 |
| 02:09.57 | Saroz | !google |
| 02:11.10 | Thorgard | Nargiddley, [2007/01/20 12:00:48-151-x7]: Sieve-0.1-25609 (Baggins):649: attempt to index local 'itemname' (a nil value) |
| 02:11.56 | _neuron_ | Antiarc, http://hollowtube.mine.nu/interface/nQuestLog.tgz |
| 02:11.59 | _neuron_ | consider it beta ;) |
| 02:12.44 | _neuron_ | made that cuz all the other ones annoy me in some way :P |
| 02:12.50 | Antiarc | Much, much love! |
| 02:12.51 | Antiarc | Thank you! |
| 02:12.53 | _neuron_ | :) |
| 02:13.01 | _neuron_ | please report bugs and suggestions btw ;) |
| 02:13.03 | Thorgard | _neuron_, screnshot! |
| 02:13.05 | Thorgard | +e |
| 02:13.11 | _neuron_ | alright gimme a sec |
| 02:13.26 | Kadish | cool, i will check it out as well, eql3 is nice but old and aceless |
| 02:14.13 | Antiarc | There's one quest log thing that always seemed missing -- |
| 02:14.21 | Antiarc | The ability to automatically show only quests in your current zone |
| 02:14.29 | fatbrain | seriously, who'd download a tgz package without any information? |
| 02:14.33 | Saroz | the one thing i like about MQ is the tooltip thing, where you mouse over mobs that you are suppose to kill, and it shows you they are for your quest and how many you need to kill |
| 02:14.34 | fatbrain | like screenshot or feature-list |
| 02:14.36 | Antiarc | fatbrain: Me? :P |
| 02:14.39 | _neuron_ | considering adding that, but I use something I call "smart objective tracking" atm :P |
| 02:14.41 | fatbrain | yea, besides you I meant |
| 02:14.42 | _neuron_ | fatbrain, comming |
| 02:14.43 | kergoth | is it known that aguf's target frame is screwed up? |
| 02:14.47 | _neuron_ | fatbrain, ... it's a packed file |
| 02:14.47 | kergoth | it isnt updating when my target changes |
| 02:14.47 | Saroz | and it highlights NPC names and locations in questlog, so nice |
| 02:14.54 | kergoth | only when i switch from no target to a new target |
| 02:14.57 | fatbrain | _neuron_: thanks for stating the obvious |
| 02:15.01 | _neuron_ | Saroz, I got that |
| 02:15.09 | _neuron_ | fatbrain, why would you be worried about downloading it? :P |
| 02:15.15 | fatbrain | it wasn't the content of the file, rather the "why" should I download it |
| 02:15.19 | _neuron_ | ahh :P |
| 02:15.19 | fatbrain | I'm not |
| 02:15.20 | _neuron_ | hehe |
| 02:15.23 | fatbrain | yeah :) |
| 02:15.25 | Saroz | screeeenshot |
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| 02:15.30 | Diabolic-Destiny | hallo |
| 02:15.40 | _neuron_ | 30 seconds ago :P |
| 02:15.46 | _neuron_ | listing features in a prehistoric html page as well |
| 02:15.59 | _neuron_ | I have mad html skills |
| 02:16.29 | fatbrain | hehe, I take that as a -"I know htlm very well!" (notice the mispelling of html) |
| 02:16.38 | Antiarc | _neuron_: How do I use it? |
| 02:16.39 | fatbrain | had a guy looking for work once who said he was good at htlm.... |
| 02:16.52 | fatbrain | whatever that is.... |
| 02:16.58 | _neuron_ | Antiarc, should be in your fubar menu |
| 02:17.01 | _neuron_ | you need to add a quest |
| 02:17.06 | _neuron_ | and possibly reset position of the tracker :P |
| 02:17.36 | Antiarc | There it is, thanks |
| 02:18.04 | _neuron_ | http://hollowtube.mine.nu/interface/nQuestLog/info.html |
| 02:18.08 | fatbrain | ArkInventory any good? |
| 02:18.11 | _neuron_ | very fatbrain |
| 02:18.13 | fatbrain | (_neuron_) |
| 02:18.19 | fatbrain | ok, I'll give that a test-spin |
| 02:18.21 | fatbrain | vBagnon sucks |
| 02:18.36 | fatbrain | ah, alot of stuffs on your screen |
| 02:18.46 | fatbrain | gives me a *ewww* feeling :P |
| 02:18.49 | _neuron_ | that's a screenshot of a bit of my monitor :P |
| 02:19.15 | fatbrain | you take screenshots portion of your screen only? |
| 02:19.23 | _neuron_ | no I edited it afterwards :P |
| 02:19.25 | fatbrain | ul a screenie of my own |
| 02:19.28 | fatbrain | ah |
| 02:19.36 | Antiarc | _neuron_: Already have a suggestion for you |
| 02:19.49 | Antiarc | When showing objectives, the indent is messed up on multi-line items |
| 02:19.58 | _neuron_ | screenshot it please |
| 02:20.06 | Antiarc | Doing so |
| 02:20.31 | Antiarc | I'd like an option to set the spacing between quests, too. |
| 02:20.41 | _neuron_ | sure |
| 02:20.53 | _neuron_ | would you want spacing between quests and not quest objectives, or even spacing between everything? |
| 02:21.43 | Antiarc | Well, I'd like to be able to set spacing between (quest/objective) pairs, the spacing between (quest) and (objectives block), and maybe even quest objective line items, though I could give/take that one. |
| 02:22.03 | fatbrain | http://fatbrain.org/plx.jpg (unrelated to anything we speak about in here) |
| 02:22.33 | _neuron_ | what's that LyLock thing? /me likes that. |
| 02:22.35 | Antiarc | http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9702/wowscrnshot0120071919511sl.jpg |
| 02:22.48 | fatbrain | It's LyLock |
| 02:22.49 | _neuron_ | ohh, you want that indented... hmm |
| 02:22.58 | Antiarc | The third quest - when the description wraps, it goes all the way to the frame margin |
| 02:23.07 | Antiarc | Right - I'd like a kind of "tree" view of the quests, if that makes sense. |
| 02:23.11 | Antiarc | Quest |
| 02:23.12 | _neuron_ | yeah it does |
| 02:23.22 | _neuron_ | you disabled hide all quest objectives? :P |
| 02:23.37 | Antiarc | Yeah. |
| 02:23.39 | _neuron_ | (they should show whenever you start doing it automatically btw, if smartObjectives is enabled, and it is per default) |
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| 02:23.50 | fatbrain | Who's the author of Chronometer?! |
| 02:23.54 | Antiarc | I tend to like a to-do list in my quest tracker |
| 02:24.01 | fatbrain | or rather, Yata... |
| 02:24.02 | Antiarc | Rather than a "you have this many done" list. |
| 02:24.06 | Antiarc | But that's personal preference. |
| 02:24.23 | _neuron_ | but they do pop up as soon as you get a quest kill/drop |
| 02:24.37 | Antiarc | It's also difficult to move the tracker - some kind of anchor button would be nice. |
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| 02:24.44 | _neuron_ | yeah that's on the todo |
| 02:24.44 | Antiarc | Only having a few pixels on the border is rough |
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| 02:25.04 | Antiarc | And I'm also a huge fan of a resize grip in the bottom right corner - it's really easy to do if things are anchored correctly. |
| 02:25.19 | Antiarc | Though I guess that sizing up/down could be a problem. |
| 02:25.33 | _neuron_ | nha, can limit it to one direction |
| 02:25.34 | kenlyric | at least scale is pretty easy to access. |
| 02:25.37 | fatbrain | resize the quest-log frame? |
| 02:25.42 | fatbrain | erm, quest-log-tracker frame* |
| 02:26.14 | Antiarc | A way to collapse a zone's quests like MonkeyQuest would be awesome. Clicking the zone title doesn't seem to do anything. |
| 02:26.42 | _neuron_ | nha there isn't atm, you can collapse it in the normal questlog though and it should disapear |
| 02:26.53 | Antiarc | Now I'm going to go quest and tell you what I discover. :D |
| 02:26.54 | _neuron_ | (that's cuz it's feeding different data to the api, which I wasn't aware of, so it might not always work :P ) |
| 02:27.38 | Antiarc | It would be nice to be able to watch/unwatch all quests in a zone by clicking the zone name in the "Watched Quests" menu. |
| 02:27.52 | _neuron_ | yeah, I had that in a previus beta but changed the format a bit |
| 02:27.53 | _neuron_ | gonna bring it back |
| 02:27.58 | Antiarc | Excellent. |
| 02:28.35 | kenlyric | yeah, I could see a point in that... I did about half of 4 quests in zangarmarsh before going back to HF, had those trackers up pretty much all the time. |
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| 02:28.56 | _neuron_ | Antiarc, try folding it in the normal blizzard quest frame |
| 02:29.00 | _neuron_ | it MIGHT work :P |
| 02:29.15 | Antiarc | They all disappeared |
| 02:29.19 | Antiarc | Screenshotting |
| 02:29.21 | _neuron_ | whops :P |
| 02:29.22 | fatbrain | Someone should write a "lazy questlog" like, a addon that translates all jibberish into useful data, "long quest-description" ==> "goto 33,44 kill XXX" |
| 02:29.37 | _neuron_ | fatbrain, not possible unless you link it with thottbot or something like that |
| 02:29.39 | Saroz | just highlight words found in Babble-* |
| 02:29.40 | Saroz | easy |
| 02:29.42 | _neuron_ | which would involve a massive database |
| 02:29.49 | fatbrain | _neuron_: again, thanks for stating the obvious ;) |
| 02:30.11 | fatbrain | well, quest-title&lvl ==> "uber-short cool info-description" |
| 02:30.29 | Antiarc | _neuron_: Folding a category and unfolding it adds those quests to the watched list. |
| 02:30.41 | _neuron_ | AHH |
| 02:30.43 | _neuron_ | so that's how that works |
| 02:30.48 | _neuron_ | lol, I've been wondering about that :P |
| 02:30.50 | fatbrain | and, distribute it in packages like, LazyQuests_Outland, LazyQuests_Tanaris and whatever |
| 02:31.16 | _neuron_ | fatbrain, I'll write the mod if you get me all the data |
| 02:31.25 | fatbrain | _neuron_: deal. |
| 02:31.26 | Antiarc | Also - I have Grow Upwards checked |
| 02:31.31 | fatbrain | <- /me likes data-mining / leeching |
| 02:31.41 | Antiarc | But folding a zone causes it to shrink upwards |
| 02:31.47 | Antiarc | (It should shrinl downwards) |
| 02:32.00 | _neuron_ | I have no idea why that happens, but I'll try the folding |
| 02:32.07 | fatbrain | trying ArkInventory, bbiab |
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| 02:33.48 | Antiarc | _neuron_: A folded zone in the Bliz tracker removes it from the available list of watchable quests in the menu |
| 02:33.49 | _neuron_ | Antiarc, I can't get it to grow downwards personally (and I got grow upwards too) |
| 02:34.03 | _neuron_ | yeah it's triggering Quest_Lost and Quest_Gained for some reason |
| 02:34.09 | _neuron_ | which is also why it auto watches it when you unfold |
| 02:34.14 | Kemayo | Antiarc: What don't you like about QuestsFu? (I always look to improve. :D ) |
| 02:34.25 | Antiarc | Kemayo: I have to mouse over the tooltip to see a list, mostly. |
| 02:34.37 | Kemayo | _neuron_: It's triggering it because, as far as the API is concerned, you're losing them. |
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| 02:34.52 | _neuron_ | Kemayo, yeah I know, it just didn't occur to me before now :P |
| 02:35.10 | Kemayo | I should really make it slightly smarter about that, I admit. |
| 02:35.23 | Kemayo | Antiarc: So use the tracker? |
| 02:35.32 | _neuron_ | Antiarc, if you move the frame a bit does it still grow downwards? |
| 02:35.34 | Antiarc | Kemayo: Hm. I didn't see that. >_> |
| 02:35.38 | Antiarc | _neuron_: Checking |
| 02:35.56 | Antiarc | I turned grow upwards off. Adding a quest grows down. Removing one shrinks up, as expected. |
| 02:36.14 | Antiarc | Now it is working correctly. |
| 02:36.15 | Antiarc | Huh. |
| 02:36.53 | _neuron_ | exactly |
| 02:36.58 | _neuron_ | I have no clue why and when it breaks :P |
| 02:37.36 | _neuron_ | I gtg though, but if you got more suggestions pm me/use my nick and I log it :) |
| 02:37.39 | _neuron_ | later |
| 02:37.43 | Kemayo | Antiarc: Or you could detach the main QuestsFu tooltip, which would more or less replicate the MonkeyQuest experience. |
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| 02:38.00 | Antiarc | Kemayo: I have it installed, trying now. |
| 02:39.04 | kenlyric | hmmm... did the recent update toe aguf mess with party frames? |
| 02:40.32 | fatbrain | define "recent" |
| 02:42.19 | Antiarc | Kemayo: Detacth tooltip is 90% of what I want |
| 02:43.13 | Antiarc | I'd like to be able to change the tip width, though, so it takes less vertical space |
| 02:43.50 | Diabolic-Destiny | is battleground_fu still messed up? |
| 02:44.06 | Diabolic-Destiny | i get off the hook errors with it |
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| 02:55.10 | vhaarr | Now that there's no AH in Outlands, I'm really in a need of an addon that tells me what recipes my other characters know; is there such an addon on the SVN? |
| 02:55.23 | vhaarr | And if not, can you name one so I can remake it and upload to the SVN? |
| 02:55.26 | vhaarr | :P |
| 02:55.42 | Diabolic-Destiny | known recipie does that |
| 02:56.25 | Diabolic-Destiny | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3674 |
| 02:56.35 | vhaarr | thanks |
| 02:57.00 | Diabolic-Destiny | also http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1583 but its discontinued |
| 02:57.10 | Diabolic-Destiny | i know the 2nd one does what u want forsure |
| 02:57.14 | Diabolic-Destiny | but the first one im not to sure |
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| 03:26.56 | Kemayo | Antiarc: You could turn off "wrap quest titles", which would make it wider. |
| 03:29.01 | kenlyric | hmmm.. the only person in my party frame is the party leader. |
| 03:30.12 | Antiar1 | So, helpful hint. |
| 03:32.47 | Nightdew | which addon will see what a particular item can be used for.. cooking quest.. etc |
| 03:33.01 | Nightdew | show |
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| 03:36.47 | Antiar1 | Accidentally setting ColaMachine's synch channel to your guild alliance's chat channel is not the brightest thing I've done today. |
| 03:39.14 | Kemayo | Heh. |
| 03:39.23 | fatbrain | atleast you have a brightest thing you've done today.... I dont :( |
| 03:44.16 | fatbrain | ... I'm glad you'r with me on this |
| 03:51.29 | jkw | omfg yay |
| 03:51.30 | Feldia | with baggins, is there anyway to delete the "ammo" bag? |
| 03:51.38 | jkw | * "Mana Shield" now absorbs magical damage as well as physical damage. |
| 03:51.47 | jkw | fear fire mages |
| 03:51.49 | jkw | :D |
| 03:51.56 | Amadeo | what? Are you serious? |
| 03:52.02 | Feldia | nvm found it |
| 03:52.39 | stavmar | is there a macro for changing out wands? |
| 03:52.41 | ggilbert | jkw: ... are you joking? |
| 03:52.45 | jkw | and CS no longer triggers global cooldown |
| 03:52.55 | jkw | ggilbert: 2.0.6 PTR patchnotes |
| 03:52.56 | fatbrain | jkw: lol |
| 03:53.03 | fatbrain | jkw: url |
| 03:53.19 | ggilbert | yeah I want to see this :) |
| 03:53.21 | jkw | but thumbs down to -10% spelldamage on frostbolt and fireball >< |
| 03:53.34 | jkw | improved* |
| 03:53.37 | fatbrain | jkw: indeeds |
| 03:53.45 | Amadeo | * "Warriors are no longer a damage dealing class, they can only dual wield Shields." |
| 03:54.09 | jkw | found it on http://worldofraids.com |
| 03:54.16 | jkw | hope its not fake :< |
| 03:54.23 | stavmar | cladhaire,Prais is wokrign great in BWL. |
| 03:54.31 | stavmar | Praid* |
| 03:55.08 | jkw | fatbrain: read 6 rows up |
| 03:55.09 | Amadeo | he just posted it |
| 03:55.36 | cladhaire | great to hear, thanks. |
| 03:55.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: man, if i could do that i would be so happy |
| 03:55.47 | jkw | hunters nerfed to the shit |
| 03:55.52 | NightHawkTheSane | as long as i can sunder with a shield |
| 03:55.53 | jkw | i'll delete my hunter now :> |
| 03:56.03 | fatbrain | was expecing a more "precise" url |
| 03:56.12 | fatbrain | seemed like they posted it on their front-page |
| 03:56.13 | fatbrain | nifty |
| 03:56.18 | jkw | fatbrain: it's on the first page in the middle of the screen |
| 03:56.25 | jkw | fatbrain: What more do you want? ;P |
| 03:56.26 | Amadeo | More like NightHawkTheInSane! |
| 03:56.42 | NightHawkTheSane | something like that. |
| 03:56.45 | NightHawkTheSane | <-- leveling prot specced. |
| 03:56.54 | fatbrain | jkw: thanks tho :) |
| 03:56.57 | Amadeo | Are you really? |
| 03:57.01 | NightHawkTheSane | yep |
| 03:57.07 | NightHawkTheSane | it's not really that bad |
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| 03:57.15 | Amadeo | Depends on your gear I guess...mine is horrible |
| 03:57.20 | Amadeo | I may switch to it at 64, but not now |
| 03:57.22 | jkw | btw |
| 03:57.27 | jkw | best thing on the ptr: |
| 03:57.28 | jkw | * Players will no longer hear the gong sound repeated after initially joining a queue for the battlegrounds. |
| 03:57.32 | jkw | ^^ |
| 03:57.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ive replaced all mine with outland gear, so it's not like i'm sitting on t3 or anything :P |
| 03:58.08 | jkw | the items are screwed atm |
| 03:58.13 | Amadeo | What level are you now? |
| 03:58.24 | NightHawkTheSane | 65 |
| 03:58.27 | Amadeo | I'm 61! |
| 03:58.41 | jkw | i was going for HW dagger... watched AH and found a dagger with ~60 spelldamage etc, blue level 61.. |
| 03:58.48 | jkw | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:58.56 | Amadeo | I'm saving my honor for the level 70 rewards instead |
| 03:59.06 | NightHawkTheSane | i could probably have been 66 if i spent more time |
| 03:59.13 | NightHawkTheSane | questing instead of instancing |
| 03:59.17 | jkw | Amadeo: That's most likely what I will do too. |
| 03:59.49 | Amadeo | the weapons are nice |
| 04:01.11 | Nomad_Wanderer | dont knock instancing.. you get party bonus xp, + rested xp.... If you can find a good group of ppl, instance grinding > solo questing, but more boring, you don't get to see cool quests/scenery, and typically have less faction(rep). |
| 04:02.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Nomad_Wanderer: it really depends, non rested, questing is probably better. |
| 04:02.16 | Amadeo | That probably depends on class |
| 04:02.35 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yeah.. I am a priest after all <snicker. |
| 04:02.47 | Amadeo | Warlocks are sick, they're non-stop with Affliction |
| 04:03.02 | Trancer | we are sick for playing affli? |
| 04:03.09 | Trancer | that's the whole definition of our class :S |
| 04:03.13 | Amadeo | Yes, you're...Afflicted! |
| 04:03.27 | Trancer | blizz just made us shadowboltspamming mages in 1.0 :( |
| 04:03.38 | Trancer | wait till you are afflicted in PvP >:P |
| 04:03.45 | Trancer | run and die from DoTs harhar. |
| 04:03.56 | Amadeo | I meant sick in a good sense :) |
| 04:04.08 | Trancer | hehehe : |
| 04:04.21 | Trancer | I am happy with the changes |
| 04:04.27 | Trancer | dots do more dps than shadowbolt spam |
| 04:04.33 | Trancer | finally some change/diversification |
| 04:05.06 | kergoth | ckknight, i noticed that cart appears to try to show distance in yards on map notes inside instances :P |
| 04:05.07 | Amadeo | I also really like Affliction |
| 04:05.10 | kergoth | ckknight, probably not the best idea |
| 04:05.40 | Trancer | I am destro atm tho, still am, didn't buy TBC yet |
| 04:05.51 | Trancer | farming with destro sucks tho, but PvP is great |
| 04:06.02 | Trancer | shadowfury is such an insane talent vs rogues and other garbage |
| 04:06.12 | Trancer | and backlash aswell :) |
| 04:06.22 | Trancer | not to mention nether protection.. lovely vs fire mages ;) |
| 04:06.40 | Amadeo | Backlash is the instant shadowbolt thing? that talent is great |
| 04:06.52 | Trancer | yeap |
| 04:07.19 | Trancer | I love hunters with fast bows/guns :DDD |
| 04:07.30 | Trancer | and the pet helps a lot ;) |
| 04:07.36 | Trancer | you kill the hunter with his own speed |
| 04:07.41 | Amadeo | I don't know about that |
| 04:07.43 | Trancer | no need to cast a thing |
| 04:07.46 | Amadeo | I'm usually dead on the second shot :P |
| 04:07.53 | Trancer | ah, I got 5.1k unbuffed |
| 04:08.02 | Trancer | mostly outlast their cycle |
| 04:08.19 | Trancer | if they run up in naxx gear I mostly go for their deadzone :P |
| 04:08.28 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 04:08.33 | Trancer | don't like that soulstring hitting me, it hurts :( |
| 04:09.49 | Trancer | think I'll go affli for levelling |
| 04:09.49 | NightHawkTheSane | man, there are way too many mods that try and hijack mod+click on bag items |
| 04:10.08 | Trancer | the farming with destro is annoying, need to pay a lot of attention |
| 04:10.10 | Trancer | and it's slow |
| 04:10.21 | Trancer | might also go demo for the heck of it, no stinking felguard tho |
| 04:11.32 | ZealotOnAStick | What's the use command for trinket slots again now? |
| 04:12.02 | Trancer | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:12.08 | Trancer | is the upper trinket |
| 04:12.18 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:12.43 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:12.50 | ZealotOnAStick | I know it'll work with the exact name. |
| 04:12.59 | ZealotOnAStick | just 13 or 14 for the slots? |
| 04:13.14 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm getting enough activated toys that swapping some out might be worthwhile. |
| 04:13.35 | Trancer | yep, /use 13 works fine here |
| 04:13.41 | Trancer | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:16.47 | Antiar1 | Is there a way to autoloot when you pickpocket? |
| 04:23.27 | PProvost | WowAceUpdater v1.7beta2 is now available for download from http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater. This release has minor updates to mirror caching and a few other fixes. |
| 04:29.05 | Meiun|DETH | yay lvl 70 on exploring |
| 04:29.06 | Meiun|DETH | :D |
| 04:29.15 | Azurewrath | grats :) |
| 04:29.47 | Meiun|DETH | ty |
| 04:32.10 | Soulless | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.36 | fatbrain | Must resist clicking on generic url in chat-window.... |
| 04:32.39 | fatbrain | .... must resist.... |
| 04:36.15 | OvrLrd-Q | is there anything similar to auctioneer that isn't such a resource hog? |
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| 04:43.15 | fatbrain | roooar |
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| 04:52.07 | ggilbert | OvrLrd-Q: Unforunatly, being a resource hog is kind of the downside to a mod like auctioneer |
| 04:54.31 | OvrLrd-Q | yea :(, just insane how much space it takes up when doing scans when it's not saving all that much info |
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| 04:55.55 | NightHawkTheSane | any mod that collects and stores that much info will take up a lot of space. *shrug* can't have your cake and eat it too :P |
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| 05:35.41 | Kemayo | KCI does the auction-data-storing much more efficiently. It's just not as spiffy otherwise. |
| 05:36.26 | fatbrain | Isn't KCI out-of-date? |
| 05:36.49 | fatbrain | incompatable, or whatever the complaint was when I just now recently tried to install it |
| 05:39.49 | Kemayo | There's a partially-completed new version in SVN. |
| 05:40.08 | Diabolic-Destiny | did u really hit lvl 70? |
| 05:41.12 | Thorgard | Anyone know if there's -any- way to turn off the 'popup' thing in AutoBar? |
| 05:44.14 | Diabolic-Destiny | BAAHAHA http://www.explosm.net/comics/147/ |
| 05:46.04 | Diabolic-Destiny | lol http://www.explosm.net/comics/168/ |
| 05:46.52 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 05:46.58 | Nomad_Wanderer | ok... need a second opinion... |
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| 05:47.39 | Nomad_Wanderer | I;ve just done about 10 quests in zangarmarsh.. Run out of rested xp.. my friend says to not turn them in, but go to the inn, and goto sleep, (or play my shaman alt), then turn them in the morning. |
| 05:47.47 | fatbrain | Thorgard: it's in the autobar config dialog |
| 05:47.48 | Nomad_Wanderer | He says they are going to be worth a lot more tomorrow morning |
| 05:47.54 | art3mis | yeah |
| 05:48.11 | art3mis | the ebst bet for quesitn gis to do a ton of quests get all 25 complete |
| 05:48.19 | art3mis | then grind rep in the instances til honoured |
| 05:48.24 | art3mis | THENH turn them in |
| 05:48.32 | art3mis | so yopu can get the revered keys easier |
| 05:48.46 | Thorgard | fatbrain, it's not. :/ Only option I can find is to 'Popup on Shift key'. |
| 05:49.15 | fatbrain | Thorgard: that's no good |
| 05:49.21 | Thorgard | I know. |
| 05:50.12 | fatbrain | Someone should venture into #wowace and complain ;) |
| 05:53.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Nomad_Wanderer: he doesn't understand how rested XP works. |
| 05:53.32 | ZealotOnAStick | Rested only doubles kill XP. |
| 05:53.32 | ZealotOnAStick | Not quest reward XP. |
| 05:53.34 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thats why I got a second opinion :) |
| 05:53.35 | Diabolic-Destiny | yea was gonna say |
| 05:53.47 | Nomad_Wanderer | thanks |
| 05:56.04 | kergoth | argh, i think i've isolated the occasional incorrect timeoffset in kenergy.. it only seems to happen on login, those initial ticks.. if they get screwed up the intiail standard deviation ends up wrong, and we're hosed, it'll never correct itself |
| 06:04.18 | fatbrain | Mention one must-have addon!! |
| 06:04.23 | fatbrain | (and not a obvious one) |
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| 06:05.56 | kergoth | is it just me, or is the new decursive just like a less featureful grid type thing? |
| 06:05.56 | Barbanus | lol DnT is in Karazhan |
| 06:06.13 | Xuerian | Wouldn't be the first time Grid has been ripped off. |
| 06:06.20 | fatbrain | kergoth: 2.0beta? |
| 06:06.23 | kergoth | yea |
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| 06:06.32 | fatbrain | bah, I use some gridhealer stuff from wowace |
| 06:06.36 | kergoth | calls it micro unitframes...with indicators |
| 06:06.40 | fatbrain | decursive lost its beauty in 2.0patch |
| 06:06.41 | kergoth | sounded familiar to me :P |
| 06:06.46 | Xuerian | Haha. |
| 06:07.03 | fatbrain | lol, nifty, steal it, change the name... smells microsoft. |
| 06:07.23 | Xuerian | Imitation flattery. Bad imitation is grounds for mockery. I don't see where we loose in this bargain. |
| 06:07.38 | kergoth | i have a cheap hack solution to the kenergy tickoffset problem.. just make the tick offset persist across reloads... itd still be possible to get screwed up the very first login ever, but.. |
| 06:07.43 | fatbrain | now he only have to send in patent applications for all the features he's been using.... and I will officially start calling him ms-man-who-made-decursive. |
| 06:08.11 | kergoth | fatbrain, well, in an open community taking someone elses idea and implementing it (or trying to) better is a common thing, and generally a good thing |
| 06:08.26 | kergoth | course if he did so just so he could call it decursive, rather than adding any real improvements upon grid, thats something else |
| 06:08.29 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:08.42 | Xuerian | Which is when the mockery clause kicks in :P |
| 06:08.44 | fatbrain | yea, I know... just wanted to get a /lol |
| 06:08.50 | fatbrain | /me is soo loneely |
| 06:09.05 | Xuerian | Anyhow, kergoth, would it only mess up on the first login, then work the rest, or possibly mess up on the first, and then screw the rest? |
| 06:09.30 | fatbrain | I can imagine that he/she put alot of work into decursive, kinda sad that blizzard did a killing blow to its face |
| 06:09.50 | Barbanus | he/she knew it was coming |
| 06:10.03 | Barbanus | Blizz said they planned to nerf it well over a year ago |
| 06:10.08 | Xuerian | fatbrain: I sympathize with the author of Sprocket more. |
| 06:10.20 | fatbrain | I don't even know what Sproket is... |
| 06:10.38 | Barbanus | Decursive wasn't "caught in the crossfire" it was directly resposible for the changes, lol |
| 06:10.48 | kergoth | Xuerian, thats the problem, it throws out outlying values it encounters, so if the very initial standard deviation is -badly- wrong, itll just throw out every correct value it gets from then on |
| 06:10.51 | Toadkiller | I say f*(k him right in the eye. HEs the goddamn reason I have to spend so much time rewriting a perfectly good mod |
| 06:10.54 | Xuerian | Blizzard hardcore-nerfed sprocket right out of the gate with this secure stuff, and by the time SecurePie came around for the very reason, he was already gone |
| 06:11.02 | Xuerian | Haha, toad. |
| 06:11.04 | kergoth | Xuerian, since i only retain a running average and stddev, not a queue |
| 06:11.05 | Xuerian | Suck it up :P |
| 06:11.24 | kergoth | i might have to give up and hold a 10 event queue in addition to the running stddev/mean |
| 06:11.28 | Xuerian | kergoth: Give it a default value from a testing average you harvest? |
| 06:11.30 | Toadkiller | Not whining just feeling ZERO pity for decursive |
| 06:11.31 | kergoth | and operate over the whole |
| 06:11.44 | Xuerian | Toadkiller: I wasn't talking about decursive. |
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| 06:11.49 | kergoth | i do, the default is a tick offset of 0, but that 0 doesnt have any weight |
| 06:11.53 | fatbrain | ah, Sprocket, gotcha |
| 06:11.53 | Toadkiller | someone was |
| 06:11.53 | kergoth | its one value, against the first 5 ticks |
| 06:11.55 | kergoth | 1 in 6 |
| 06:11.58 | kergoth | or whatever |
| 06:12.04 | kergoth | i could weight it more, that might work |
| 06:12.07 | Xuerian | Toadkiller: That's how it started yes |
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| 06:12.27 | Xuerian | kergoth: Figure out what a good weight for it would be, and pre-weight it. That seems like the best solution. Then provide a reset option in case things go nuts. |
| 06:12.39 | fatbrain | Toadkiller: did you see the unable-to-disable-popup nag a few mins ago? |
| 06:12.42 | kergoth | already do, you can set the offset to 0 explicitly |
| 06:12.48 | kergoth | thats a good idea though, cleaner than either sv or a queue |
| 06:13.06 | kergoth | well, queue would be optimal, but its more tracking that i want to bother with :P |
| 06:13.09 | kergoth | s/that/than/ |
| 06:13.28 | Xuerian | kergoth: ooooover-keeeeel (Sing it again!) |
| 06:13.33 | kergoth | hehe. indeed |
| 06:13.40 | kergoth | this was supposed to be simple and easy, this addon |
| 06:13.41 | kergoth | but no.... |
| 06:14.04 | Xuerian | Stabbing always helps. :3 |
| 06:14.08 | kergoth | indeed |
| 06:14.16 | kergoth | makes you feel better if nothing else |
| 06:14.24 | Xuerian | Amen. |
| 06:15.26 | tlund | [07:05] #wowace <Barbanus> lol DnT is in Karazhan |
| 06:15.31 | tlund | Barbanus: where did you read this? |
| 06:15.45 | Barbanus | tlund, I am on the same server as them. |
| 06:15.49 | tlund | aha |
| 06:15.51 | Barbanus | They have been there for the past 2-3 hours |
| 06:15.55 | tlund | cool |
| 06:16.04 | tlund | waiting for updates on their website then :) |
| 06:16.16 | Barbanus | 10 ppl inside at the moment |
| 06:17.03 | Barbanus | There is a DnT Shaman at like level 50 now |
| 06:17.26 | Barbanus | 51, sorry :P |
| 06:17.29 | tlund | our shaman just hit 40 like 30 minutes ago |
| 06:17.48 | Barbanus | Ours is 39 |
| 06:18.04 | ZealotOnAStick | We've got a BE Paladin on Blackhand at 50 already, that was hours ago he's probably nearly 51 by now. |
| 06:18.11 | ZealotOnAStick | He said people keep sending him tells bugging him. |
| 06:18.27 | Barbanus | lol I bet |
| 06:18.27 | ZealotOnAStick | our ex-officer rogue that rerolled pally is like 47 I think. |
| 06:18.41 | ZealotOnAStick | They both prepped (to different degrees) in advance for this, though. |
| 06:18.47 | tlund | 58 -> 60 sucked, but its going to ROCK for the people who can do it in outlands instead |
| 06:19.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Collected tradeable or craftable quest items, collected everything they'd need to max jewelcrafting . . . |
| 06:19.36 | ZealotOnAStick | the 50 (who's our Paladin Class Leader) has tons of boe gear stockpiled for him too. |
| 06:20.06 | Iceroth | someone please refresh my memory.. there are at least 2 tooltip addons that make gear comparing easier, can anyone point those out for me? |
| 06:20.18 | Xuerian | EQCompare |
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| 06:20.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Links, Multitip, EQCompare |
| 06:21.03 | tlund | EquipCompare |
| 06:21.09 | Iceroth | ty :) |
| 06:21.18 | Iceroth | links was probably the one i wanted to try first |
| 06:24.44 | Xuerian | How expensive are pattern matches, anyway.. |
| 06:28.18 | Iceroth | ok, another question, what's the current massmailer/opener addon to use? |
| 06:28.24 | Xuerian | I'm thinking the whole weighting system may cost more than a few overlapping regex in the first place... >.> |
| 06:28.43 | Iceroth | what are you building?) |
| 06:28.52 | fatbrain | regexes are not that expensive |
| 06:29.06 | Xuerian | I'm using big, fancy words to bitch about writing SEE-Loot |
| 06:30.01 | Xuerian | fatbrain: Really? Meh. might just line these sobs up and punch em through instead of fancy-ass ordering then. |
| 06:35.00 | Nomad_Wanderer | quick ace mod question.. |
| 06:35.17 | Nomad_Wanderer | I have some ace mod that is for auto turnins... anyone know how to temporarily disable it? |
| 06:36.19 | Iceroth | iirc if you control-clicked (or was it shift) the vendor/quest dude, it wouldn't automatically turn the stuff in |
| 06:36.20 | NightHawkTheSane | it should have a slash command option of "standby" |
| 06:36.41 | Nomad_Wanderer | I've tried all three ctrl-alt shift |
| 06:36.49 | Nomad_Wanderer | do you know what the name is? |
| 06:36.56 | Iceroth | AutoTurnin |
| 06:37.27 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thanks |
| 06:37.36 | OvrLrd-Q | I tried one of those once |
| 06:37.54 | OvrLrd-Q | till I accidently talked to that NPC in BRD and it autogaveaway 10 Dark Iron Ore for like 25 rep |
| 06:37.58 | OvrLrd-Q | it got deleted right quick |
| 06:38.32 | kergoth | lol |
| 06:38.57 | Iceroth | hmm... guess i was mistaken with the modifier key holding, can't spot anything like that from the code |
| 06:39.08 | Nomad_Wanderer | It's normally great, I just can't seem to get it to not be auto :) |
| 06:39.17 | Gagorian | Automaton is shift |
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| 06:59.52 | Xuerian | Anyone know of a mod that captures need/greed/pass and such, and displays the ACTUAL ROLL along with the number of types per item? |
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| 07:18.45 | ckknight | hey all, back |
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| 07:19.28 | Feldia | Xuerian, greed beacon? |
| 07:19.47 | Xuerian | Feldia: where's it at? |
| 07:19.49 | Xuerian | ckknight: Wb. |
| 07:19.51 | Feldia | wowace |
| 07:19.57 | ckknight | how's everyone doing today? |
| 07:20.07 | ckknight | it'd better be good. |
| 07:20.15 | ckknight | happy thoughts all around |
| 07:20.18 | Feldia | about to head into netherstorm |
| 07:20.20 | ckknight | three cheers for fresh aire. |
| 07:20.21 | Feldia | so I guess good |
| 07:20.22 | ckknight | air* |
| 07:20.30 | ckknight | hurray! |
| 07:20.33 | Feldia | the hell with blades edge |
| 07:20.37 | Feldia | such a terrible zone |
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| 07:23.19 | ggilbert | Feldia, what is bugging you in blades edge? |
| 07:23.33 | Feldia | the quests just irritate me |
| 07:23.47 | Feldia | and the layout of the zone |
| 07:23.50 | Feldia | I dunno, I don't like it! |
| 07:24.05 | ggilbert | ah |
| 07:24.24 | ggilbert | I think that's next on my list of places I have to go |
| 07:25.39 | Feldia | are you in nagrand now? |
| 07:25.48 | ggilbert | yeah |
| 07:25.53 | Feldia | then yea |
| 07:25.55 | Feldia | personally though |
| 07:25.59 | Feldia | I'd just go to CoT and level there |
| 07:26.15 | ggilbert | Not enough people on our server there yet |
| 07:26.23 | Feldia | oh |
| 07:26.26 | Feldia | hurm |
| 07:26.33 | Feldia | ggilbert as in warrior from drama? or someone else |
| 07:26.36 | ggilbert | on beta I went into CoT at 66 and spent all of 67 and half of 68 in durnhold :) |
| 07:26.42 | ggilbert | different ggilbert |
| 07:26.48 | Feldia | yea durnhold rocks |
| 07:27.02 | Feldia | we just tried to do black morass with a combination of 67-70, didnt go so well |
| 07:27.07 | Feldia | got to the second boss adn got destroyed |
| 07:27.19 | ggilbert | I did one black morass run |
| 07:27.39 | ggilbert | we cleared all of the waves until the last one and then it never spawned |
| 07:27.57 | Feldia | ouch |
| 07:28.01 | Feldia | it kinda sucks though |
| 07:28.04 | Feldia | cuz if you wipe you get nothing |
| 07:28.26 | ggilbert | Durnhold is a much more fun experience all together |
| 07:29.29 | Feldia | yea it was very fun the first time through |
| 07:32.38 | ggilbert | but atm we have 30 people over 66 online :) |
| 07:33.03 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: ping |
| 07:35.15 | LLoydBates | ckknight: hmm, did somebody already ask if Foglight in Cartographre was legal or not? heard from guildies that such a mapmodification could be banable (sorry for english, it's early and i had no coffe) |
| 07:35.31 | ckknight | it's not. |
| 07:35.36 | ckknight | err |
| 07:35.37 | Nargiddley | Adirelle, yeah ? |
| 07:35.39 | ckknight | it's legal |
| 07:35.41 | ckknight | maybe. |
| 07:35.50 | ckknight | not bannable, though |
| 07:35.57 | LLoydBates | the "maybe" part is what i don't like :\ |
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| 07:36.06 | ckknight | it's not bannable. |
| 07:36.14 | LLoydBates | up to know, i keep on deleting the foglight.lua module |
| 07:36.27 | ckknight | do what you feel like. |
| 07:36.27 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: in Baggins, did you removed the bag title cutting code ? (maybe should I check with blame, sry) |
| 07:36.32 | LLoydBates | but i don't know how warden (or what ever mechanic the use for banablemodules) sees it |
| 07:36.36 | Dekuna | ckk: i have a question |
| 07:36.45 | LLoydBates | *up to now -.- |
| 07:36.48 | ckknight | if Blizz contacts me about it, I'll take it out, until then, no dice. |
| 07:36.52 | ckknight | Dekuna: k... |
| 07:36.58 | Dekuna | i've been getting some addon blocked errors with FuBar |
| 07:37.01 | LLoydBates | ok, thanks anyway |
| 07:37.03 | Fisker- | Blizzard doesn't ban for addons |
| 07:37.03 | Nargiddley | Adirelle, stopping bags shrinking smaller than the title ? |
| 07:37.11 | Adirelle | yep |
| 07:37.28 | Nargiddley | it was intentional that they do that, so yeah |
| 07:37.33 | Fisker- | And foglight has existed in Mozzfullworldmap which is years old |
| 07:37.56 | Fisker- | If Blizzard had a problem with it, they would've said a long time ago |
| 07:38.13 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: think I'll re-add it with an option then :) |
| 07:38.23 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: in french, some bag title are really large... |
| 07:38.24 | Nargiddley | Adirelle, thats fine |
| 07:38.46 | ckknight | Dekuna: it's not from FuBar, we don't have a current place of where it's happening. |
| 07:38.56 | Nargiddley | Adirelle, seen the section collapsing ? |
| 07:39.02 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: not yet |
| 07:39.25 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: I'll check in few moments, I'm working on the menu |
| 07:39.32 | Nargiddley | Adirelle, ok |
| 07:40.07 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: it's interesting that you're making section titles reactive to mouse clicks, |
| 07:40.16 | Nargiddley | Adirelle, also noticed the optimize layout code could probably be cleaned up a bit. sections have been thier correct size for a while |
| 07:40.18 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: I was thinking of addin fency feature on right click |
| 07:40.41 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: what do you mean ? kinda caching size ? |
| 07:40.44 | Nargiddley | the shrink bags to fit feature now is done at the bag level |
| 07:41.02 | Nargiddley | so a section is only as wide as max(titlewidth,itemswidth) |
| 07:41.19 | Fisker- | ckknight does cartographer support notes that's set up like small area instead of a single note? |
| 07:41.25 | Nargiddley | took a while for me to get it not showing hidden sections properly heh |
| 07:41.27 | ckknight | no |
| 07:41.44 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: but there always is a max bag width ? |
| 07:42.17 | Xuerian | Is there a cryolisis (or proper spelling <.<)-like mod for hunters? |
| 07:42.28 | Nargiddley | Adirelle, well sections just dont get bigger than the cols |
| 07:42.34 | Xuerian | s/is there/Have we a/ |
| 07:42.45 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: well, I'll add the new menu layout, the fit bag title to width option, and checks that |
| 07:42.57 | Nargiddley | Adirelle, k |
| 07:43.15 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: lots of people like baggins but seems to be confused by all the option :s |
| 07:43.18 | ggilbert | Xuerian: henges is probably your best bet |
| 07:43.37 | ggilbert | but it may not be useful yet |
| 07:43.51 | Xuerian | Oh for a updated sprocket. |
| 07:43.58 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: I think an update to the Wiki page would be a got thing, I'm almost wondering if a ingame help page could be interesting (like in Itemrak or CTRaid) |
| 07:44.04 | Adirelle | s/got/good/ |
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| 07:45.30 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: btw, I think also enforcing bag lock when in automatic bag layout, people are quite confused when they can move the bags (that are unlocked) then the location is reset by bag layout |
| 07:45.52 | ggilbert | Xuerian: I was kind of thinking that something like sprocket may not be terribly difficult to implement |
| 07:46.00 | ggilbert | if you don't care at all about customization |
| 07:46.09 | Xuerian | ggilbert: But I do :P |
| 07:46.41 | Xuerian | ggilbert: Eh, it's just fruitless complaining on my part. And no, with securepie it doesn't seem like it would be -that- difficult. |
| 07:46.49 | Fisker- | reckoning rules :) |
| 07:47.04 | kergoth | pie? |
| 07:47.26 | Fisker- | bag |
| 07:47.27 | Fisker- | nah |
| 07:47.28 | Xuerian | well... that's what it was, wasn't it? The SecurePie button header thingamajig |
| 07:47.30 | Fisker- | reckoning |
| 07:47.45 | ggilbert | Xuerian: I had laregely been thinking that the bulk of the work is in making a releasable product. As opposed to something that only does what I want |
| 07:48.13 | Xuerian | ggilbert: Therein lies the problem v.v |
| 07:48.18 | ggilbert | Xuerian: yup |
| 07:52.26 | kergoth | is 20003 still the current interface #? |
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| 07:54.59 | Adirelle | ~x en fr to mangle |
| 07:56.13 | Adirelle | ... |
| 07:58.26 | Xuerian | So whatever happened to CIA reporting commits? |
| 07:58.37 | kergoth | good question |
| 07:58.50 | CIA-17 | ow |
| 07:58.53 | Xuerian | hmf. |
| 07:58.55 | kergoth | cia is working in general |
| 07:59.02 | kergoth | i've seen other commits somewhere else |
| 07:59.07 | Xuerian | Something on our end then, eh? |
| 07:59.08 | kergoth | i wonder if our trigger got broken during the server switch |
| 07:59.12 | kergoth | wouldnt surprsie me |
| 07:59.20 | kergoth | i'll take a look, kael gave me shell access |
| 07:59.28 | Xuerian | Most excellent :p |
| 07:59.30 | Adirelle | Xuerian: network flows between new svn server and CIA server aren't allowed atm |
| 07:59.39 | kergoth | ? |
| 07:59.41 | Xuerian | Adirelle: :( |
| 07:59.53 | kergoth | allowed? |
| 07:59.55 | Adirelle | Xuerian: dunno if Kael is working on it |
| 08:00.02 | Adirelle | firewall ? |
| 08:00.19 | kergoth | kael used svnadmin dump/load to switch the svn server over |
| 08:00.25 | kergoth | i'd make sure he remembered to copy the triggers first :P |
| 08:00.26 | Adirelle | Kergoth: at least it is what h said |
| 08:00.31 | kergoth | k |
| 08:00.42 | Xuerian | yar. Need commit messages to contribute to information overload! |
| 08:01.14 | Adirelle | kergoth: something like "can't contact CIA server, disabling CIA postcommit scripts" |
| 08:01.33 | Adirelle | kergoth: obviously, he said that in a perfect english :D |
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| 08:04.38 | CIA-17 | 03 * r25676 10/: |
| 08:04.48 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r25676 10kEnergy/ (Locale/deDE.lua addon.lua kEnergy.toc tick.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 08:04.48 | CIA-17 | kEnergy: |
| 08:04.48 | CIA-17 | - Bump interface # in .toc. |
| 08:04.49 | CIA-17 | - Add deDE translation, courtesy trh_. |
| 08:04.49 | CIA-17 | - Stop the metro ticker when locking the bar |
| 08:04.49 | Fisker- | :o |
| 08:04.49 | CIA-17 | - Bump the weight of the default 0 tickoffset to 5, for now, in an attempt to fix the reported timeoffset problems |
| 08:04.54 | CIA-17 | - Add a GetState() method for debugging (/print kEnergy:GetState()) |
| 08:04.54 | Xuerian | zomg. |
| 08:04.57 | Xuerian | IT LIVES |
| 08:04.58 | kergoth | i just manually triggered that |
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| 08:04.59 | kergoth | no change |
| 08:05.02 | Xuerian | aw. |
| 08:05.03 | kergoth | just ran the script as it was in the post commit |
| 08:05.10 | kergoth | so whatever wasnt working appears to be working now |
| 08:05.11 | kergoth | :P |
| 08:05.11 | Fisker- | :( |
| 08:05.16 | Xuerian | Woot. |
| 08:05.17 | Xuerian | <3 |
| 08:05.30 | kergoth | not sure, should wait and pester kael before enabling it again though |
| 08:05.35 | Xuerian | >.< |
| 08:05.40 | kergoth | wouldnt want him to get in trouble with his provider or anything |
| 08:05.44 | Xuerian | There's only one thing left to do. |
| 08:05.49 | Xuerian | Sing The Beer Song! |
| 08:05.55 | kergoth | worst case we could fall back from the xml/rpc notification to the email version |
| 08:05.59 | kergoth | cia can be contacted both way |
| 08:06.00 | kergoth | s |
| 08:06.41 | Xuerian | Seeing as the server is under wow addon site load, I don't see what pure text xml/rpc communication would weigh as >.> |
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| 08:23.58 | Dekuna | Kergoth: ping |
| 08:25.13 | kergoth | pong |
| 08:25.19 | Dekuna | i have a kenergy bug report for you, i'll put it in a separate window |
| 08:26.23 | kergoth | hmm |
| 08:30.23 | kergoth | Dekuna, are you able to reproduce this? |
| 08:30.29 | kergoth | or was it a one time thing? |
| 08:33.23 | OvrLrd-Q | <3 Prat |
| 08:34.02 | Dekuna | kergoth, it's up every time i play |
| 08:34.38 | kergoth | i cant make it happen on my 21 druid |
| 08:34.46 | Dekuna | hmm |
| 08:34.47 | kergoth | tried logging in in cat form, normal form, etc |
| 08:34.51 | kergoth | tried current svn? |
| 08:34.56 | Dekuna | yeah |
| 08:35.21 | kergoth | olden can only be nil if self.energy was nil, and self.energy is set as soon as you entered cat form |
| 08:35.22 | Dekuna | i'm a lua noob, so what does the 'olden' on that line actually refer to |
| 08:35.28 | Dekuna | hmm |
| 08:35.34 | Dekuna | i have furor |
| 08:35.35 | kergoth | so somehow you'd have to get an energy tick before we detected the cat form buff |
| 08:35.40 | Dekuna | furor |
| 08:35.41 | kergoth | hmm |
| 08:35.42 | Dekuna | adds 40 |
| 08:35.45 | kergoth | i know |
| 08:35.46 | Dekuna | as soon as you shift |
| 08:35.49 | Dekuna | hmm |
| 08:35.53 | kergoth | i just didnt expect it to happen before you get hte cat form buff |
| 08:35.56 | kergoth | grr |
| 08:36.04 | Dekuna | i don't know if it does or not... |
| 08:36.09 | Dekuna | would be weird |
| 08:36.11 | kergoth | well, thats what could cause your error |
| 08:36.20 | kergoth | its the only possible way i cna think of, given the code |
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| 08:39.06 | Dekuna | haha |
| 08:39.21 | Dekuna | is there any way to fix it? |
| 08:39.44 | Fisker- | any paladins here? |
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| 08:44.10 | OvrLrd-Q | i had one Fisker- |
| 08:46.03 | Fisker- | don't think i can use that atm :P |
| 08:50.26 | kergoth | Dekuna, well, i can check in the energy tick handler for self.energy being nil, which would indicate this situation.. but it sucks that we have to do that.. thats extra logic in every tick for a situation that almost never happens. grr.. |
| 08:50.31 | kergoth | wonder why its happening |
| 08:52.54 | Xuerian | ~xuerian |
| 08:53.06 | purl | ACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random. |
| 08:53.37 | Xuerian | Well, Master is fixed, SEE-Loot is starting to work, and I'm passing out. 'night all. Good luck, kergoth :P |
| 08:53.49 | kergoth | night |
| 08:54.06 | kergoth | Dekuna, yeah, as i htought.. added debug output. UNIT_ENERGY is definately firing before PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED |
| 08:55.16 | kergoth | hmm, idea |
| 09:01.12 | Parak | hmm, is there a ace alternative to something like getlink? |
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| 09:03.59 | Xuerian | Just had to come back to link it: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=224 |
| 09:06.28 | ggilbert | that's pretty accurate |
| 09:07.16 | NightHawkTheSane | <3 vgcats |
| 09:13.22 | kergoth | Dekuna, got it |
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| 09:27.20 | kergoth | Dekuna, update to r25680 and please test :) |
| 09:37.44 | Dekuna | hm |
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| 09:40.42 | Sole | hih |
| 09:42.37 | Sole | question: which would be more efficent? 1) tremove(table, "value") or 2) table["value"] = nil |
| 09:43.55 | kergoth | table.remove() is generally run on numeric indices.. tables that are arrays |
| 09:43.59 | kergoth | itd be pointless on a hash |
| 09:44.14 | Sole | hmm |
| 09:44.16 | Sole | I see |
| 09:45.18 | Sole | but is table.insert() the recommended method of inserting values into a table? |
| 09:45.32 | Sole | because I just want a table with no sub-tables |
| 09:45.57 | Sole | as in t = {"v1","v2","v3") |
| 09:46.11 | Sole | so I figure the easiest way to add to that table would be table.insert(), correct? |
| 09:46.21 | kergoth | most likely, yep. thats what most would do |
| 09:46.39 | Sole | alright, thank you kergoth |
| 09:46.44 | ckknight | or t[#t+1] = 'value' |
| 09:46.47 | ckknight | same effect |
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| 09:47.20 | Sole | that would make me look smart |
| 09:47.54 | Sole | # represents an interator through the table, correct? |
| 09:48.05 | Sole | I read about it somewhere, cant seem to find that doc right now |
| 09:48.15 | Adirelle | sole: no, it's the table size |
| 09:48.24 | Sole | ah |
| 09:48.30 | kergoth | table.insert() at the end of the table has to do the same thing as # anyway. one way or another, it has to find out the len of the table |
| 09:48.38 | Adirelle | it is a replacement for old table.getn() |
| 09:49.02 | Adirelle | but it only works on numerically indexed table, with get operates only by insert/remove |
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| 09:50.25 | Sole | thanks guys |
| 09:50.43 | Sole | I remember using table.getn() and finding out the hard way that it only works on a numerically indexed table |
| 09:50.43 | kergoth | Dekuna, did that take care of it for you? |
| 09:55.58 | Sole | does calling a function create a considerable ammount of overhead to bother avoiding it in a loop? |
| 09:56.40 | Sole | in Antagonist, I cache the id of every bar in a table. to stop all bars I simply loop through the table and run the KillBar function on each id |
| 09:57.30 | Sole | would there be a marginal difference if instead of calling the KillBar function, I simply make it a part of the loop |
| 09:57.45 | Sole | if that makes any sense |
| 09:58.33 | kergoth | Sole, a function call is like 0.28 microseconds. |
| 09:59.03 | Sole | at max I think people would have 10 ids in the table, usually less |
| 09:59.24 | Sole | so the difference would be unnoticeable |
| 10:00.01 | kergoth | indeed |
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| 10:00.53 | Dekuna | kergoth: i'll update and try it now |
| 10:01.17 | kergoth | thanks much |
| 10:02.07 | kergoth | i think i just fixed the tickoffset thing finally |
| 10:02.21 | Sole | ahh, where would I be without my knowledgeable buddies? :) |
| 10:02.29 | Sole | *hugs |
| 10:02.44 | Sole | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:03.20 | kergoth | hehe |
| 10:03.24 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:03.32 | Dekuna | kergoth: error gone so far, thanks <3 |
| 10:03.35 | kergoth | woot |
| 10:03.37 | kergoth | excellent |
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| 10:03.45 | Dekuna | also the tickoffset is working great |
| 10:04.02 | kergoth | its fun testing the tick stuff |
| 10:04.03 | kergoth | i fire off a ton of bittorrents to lag my connection |
| 10:04.08 | kergoth | and login and see how it acts :) |
| 10:05.50 | kergoth | ckknight, heh, check the bottom of http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/kEnergy/addon.lua |
| 10:06.46 | ckknight | kergoth: hehe |
| 10:06.52 | ckknight | not necessarily wrong. |
| 10:07.09 | kergoth | i felt slightly dirty, but it works and makes it a truly one time cost |
| 10:07.43 | ckknight | I tend do do kEnergy = AceAddon:new(); local kEnergy = kEnergy |
| 10:07.57 | ckknight | to do* |
| 10:09.11 | kergoth | what i meant you to look at was the crap in the onenable in the druid block.. a UNIT_ENERGY event handler that replaces itself with another one |
| 10:09.17 | kergoth | not the boring _G thing :) |
| 10:09.31 | Sole | lol |
| 10:09.32 | kergoth | i need to get around to writing a nice python release script for addons |
| 10:09.34 | ckknight | oh |
| 10:09.36 | ckknight | lol. |
| 10:11.34 | ckknight | hrm |
| 10:11.41 | ckknight | interesting |
| 10:12.08 | kergoth | supremely rudamentary state machine. two states |
| 10:12.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 10:12.59 | ggilbert | kergoth: err why not just build a bbclass? :p |
| 10:13.13 | kergoth | pfft |
| 10:13.26 | kergoth | you play with oe lately? bitbake is smoking fast nowadays compared to how it used to be |
| 10:13.33 | ggilbert | nope |
| 10:13.33 | kergoth | RP's been kicking ass |
| 10:13.56 | kergoth | and it supports true multithreading at the bitbake level |
| 10:14.00 | kergoth | multiple tasks executing in parallel |
| 10:14.03 | kergoth | finally |
| 10:14.06 | kergoth | wanted that for ages |
| 10:14.12 | ggilbert | nice |
| 10:14.28 | kergoth | course its output gets -really- confusing at tha tpoint |
| 10:14.32 | kergoth | lots of intermixed messages :) |
| 10:14.57 | ggilbert | damn good way to test your dependency handling :) |
| 10:15.33 | kergoth | no doubt |
| 10:15.42 | kergoth | what it needs now is sane declaration of resources |
| 10:15.51 | kergoth | stuff like only one unpack at a time due to hd limitations |
| 10:15.55 | kergoth | but up to 3 fetches |
| 10:15.58 | ggilbert | of course if something broken, god help your soul. |
| 10:16.09 | kergoth | hehe, just like doing a make -j |
| 10:16.48 | kergoth | erm, the new babble stuff doesnt seem to have its svn properties set right (ore, herb, etc) |
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| 10:24.21 | steev | does progman ever come on irc? |
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| 10:53.24 | Industrial | The attachments upload directory is not writable. Your attachment or avatar cannot be saved. |
| 10:53.27 | Industrial | :( |
| 10:53.37 | Industrial | i found a kickass avatar |
| 10:54.16 | Industrial | http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2379/f546a2a1b7504e387ew.gif |
| 10:54.20 | Industrial | :) |
| 10:55.44 | Industrial | I also have |
| 10:55.45 | Industrial | http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2425/cometodadd3gi.gif |
| 10:55.48 | Industrial | wich is kinda cool. |
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| 10:58.47 | Bruners | is there an addon that let the move around buffs i have? |
| 10:59.04 | steev | do what |
| 11:00.39 | kergoth | Bruners, probably want something like buffalo |
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| 11:01.24 | Leaf_Archimonde | Hello. Does anyone knows an add-on that can automatically answer specified messages for a whispers that contains specified keyword? |
| 11:02.52 | kergoth | lmao |
| 11:02.53 | kergoth | ckknight, http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=855 |
| 11:05.10 | Bruners | change them from being on the upper right corner, to where i want them |
| 11:06.01 | steev | ok, which addon is the one screaming fatality every so often, and what the frick triggers it |
| 11:07.57 | Bruners | bugsack |
| 11:08.11 | Bruners | right click the sack and mute it |
| 11:09.37 | steev | that explains it |
| 11:09.48 | steev | thanks |
| 11:10.11 | steev | i have sessions with a few thousand bugs, so yeah, was getting kinda old |
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| 11:12.11 | malifae | anyone know which mods would auto bypass a vendor dialog besides automaton? |
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| 11:14.38 | Sole | few thousand O_O |
| 11:14.42 | Sole | thats some serious spam |
| 11:15.11 | NightHawkTheSane | malifae: denial2 will |
| 11:15.39 | malifae | yah, im trying to figure out which one is doing it, they are ace mods, not running denial and automaton is in standby |
| 11:15.55 | weab | it's automaton |
| 11:16.03 | malifae | even in standby? |
| 11:16.04 | weab | standby doesn't actualy make the modules standby |
| 11:16.09 | malifae | oh ok hehe |
| 11:17.26 | malifae | thanks, that worked ;) |
| 11:17.57 | weab | i need to fix that at some point |
| 11:19.12 | malifae | i love the mod, thanks |
| 11:20.40 | weab | glad you like it |
| 11:28.47 | art3mis | hey weab |
| 11:28.57 | art3mis | is there any way to "queue" spells? |
| 11:29.41 | weab | how do you mean? |
| 11:29.54 | art3mis | well lets say im fighting and i hit my miondblast spell 3 times |
| 11:30.00 | art3mis | its only gonna cast once |
| 11:30.20 | art3mis | would there be a way to store the next 2 casts and have it "time delay to cast the next ? |
| 11:30.31 | kergoth | it was possible in the past, i dunno if it is anymore |
| 11:30.31 | kenlyric | art3mis: no way :) |
| 11:30.51 | art3mis | so one hit wonder isnt possible anymore? |
| 11:30.59 | weab | pretty sure you couldn't do that anymore |
| 11:31.07 | art3mis | dang |
| 11:31.08 | art3mis | heh |
| 11:31.16 | kenlyric | you can still mash a button and have it cast different spells, but you need to keep mashing the button |
| 11:31.36 | art3mis | yeah |
| 11:31.45 | art3mis | im sorta wanting to avoid that :) |
| 11:31.57 | art3mis | i do that with my dots at present because of that 1sec delay |
| 11:32.09 | art3mis | but it seems like lock dots dont have that |
| 11:32.24 | art3mis | so iw as wondering if thers a circumvent way |
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| 11:34.12 | ggilbert | bypassing this restriction would likely put you into account cancellation territory |
| 11:34.31 | kenlyric | lock dots have gcd just like like all other damage spells. |
| 11:34.35 | nee|lap | Hm. Is anyone elses' FreeRefills broken? |
| 11:35.13 | art3mis | is there a way to copy a custom bag for use as the format for bank bags without having to recreate it all? |
| 11:35.17 | art3mis | in baggins that is |
| 11:35.26 | nee|lap | Nope |
| 11:35.26 | Sole | hmm |
| 11:35.34 | kenlyric | art3mis: just extend out that idea to its logical conclusion. It's a bot, basically. I really stupid bot, but if you could queue actions, you could just queue all of them. |
| 11:35.48 | Sole | if self:IsCandyBarRegisteredWithGroup(i, tostring("Antagonist-"..anchor)) then blah end is giving an error. Says arg2 is a number and not a string |
| 11:35.55 | Sole | any ideas on why that would be? |
| 11:36.05 | Sole | I even added tostring to it =\ |
| 11:36.12 | kergoth | Sole, whats the -exact- error? |
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| 11:36.36 | kenlyric | omg, real snow here. |
| 11:36.41 | kenlyric | *faint* |
| 11:36.43 | Nargiddley | my guess would be its calling i arg2 in the error |
| 11:36.44 | Sole | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:36.51 | Daemona | hmm is there a command that returns my location like xx.xx,yy.yy ? |
| 11:36.52 | art3mis | oh i didnt mean it as a queue press one button and wander away, ori9ginally i was thinking onehit wonder and then expanded.. so yeah i guess it did sound that way after reading it again ;P |
| 11:37.08 | kergoth | Sole, argument #2 is i, not the name |
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| 11:37.18 | kergoth | Sole, most likely anyway.. self is passed, remember. self would be the first? |
| 11:37.22 | art3mis | yeah we actually got snow the other day too |
| 11:37.25 | kergoth | thats the most likely cause anyway, i'd say |
| 11:37.27 | art3mis | it was creepy |
| 11:37.29 | Sole | ahh yes |
| 11:37.34 | Sole | thats freekin weird |
| 11:37.38 | Sole | but i isnt a number |
| 11:37.40 | Sole | i is a string also |
| 11:38.01 | kergoth | better be sure of that :) |
| 11:38.07 | kenlyric | it will make all the aerial shots for the AFC game look really pretty. |
| 11:38.12 | art3mis | daemona: nope just a few location addons |
| 11:40.32 | kenlyric | lol, is there an expansion out, or what? 654 people alliance side on at 6:40 am. |
| 11:40.50 | Daemona | feeling funny tofay kenlyric? :D |
| 11:41.10 | kenlyric | there's nothing funny about my tofay. |
| 11:41.30 | kenlyric | feeling more like I need more sleep, but can't go back to sleep. |
| 11:41.38 | kenlyric | and, scanning the AH right now, so bored :) |
| 11:41.51 | nee|lap | Was that issue mentioned by various a few days ago, regarding ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED and 'SetPoint' resolved? |
| 11:42.57 | nee|lap | http://ace.pastey.net/5320 <-- |
| 11:42.58 | kenlyric | hmmm.. don't remember that one. I had the one with addon_action_blocked at the shapeshift bar, testing to see if it's made any progress as soon as AH scan is done. |
| 11:43.18 | nee|lap | I get those errors a lot |
| 11:44.04 | kenlyric | two changes to aguf last night regarding calling certain functions out of combat gives me hope. |
| 11:45.16 | kergoth | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=812 |
| 11:45.28 | kenlyric | man, the AH is so full these days. |
| 11:45.30 | kergoth | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=599 |
| 11:45.31 | kergoth | hehe |
| 11:45.38 | kenlyric | LOL |
| 11:45.53 | ggilbert | hehe |
| 11:46.01 | kergoth | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=805 - woot, pimp poo |
| 11:46.03 | kergoth | s/$/h/ |
| 11:46.38 | nee|lap | I'll try deleting my savedvariables for FreeRefills, I might have something old in there |
| 11:46.46 | kenlyric | wow, I want that picture. The text is meaningless, but the picture is aces. |
| 11:46.49 | Sole | hmm |
| 11:46.52 | Sole | ok kergoth |
| 11:46.57 | Sole | i is = 1 |
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| 11:48.14 | kenlyric | 91 pages in the trade goods category. That's insane. |
| 11:48.22 | kenlyric | zzzz SCAN FASTER! |
| 11:48.59 | nee|lap | Does anyone have any idea about these errors: http://ace.pastey.net/5320 http://ace.pastey.net/5321 |
| 11:52.26 | kergoth | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=773 - i need that one |
| 11:52.49 | ggilbert | aha |
| 11:53.31 | kenlyric | i've officially been creeped out http://www.tshirthell.com/images/contestpics/a99_002.jpg |
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| 11:53.50 | kergoth | lol |
| 11:53.56 | nee|lap | okay, I'll assume no one here has a clue either. I'll try posting it on the forums for now |
| 11:54.00 | kergoth | the baby ones are awesome |
| 11:54.01 | kenlyric | it's all fun and games, but when he's 10, you're going to have to explain this picture. |
| 11:54.05 | kergoth | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=120 |
| 11:54.21 | kenlyric | nee|lap: nope, I can't even get an error message out of that seecond one :) |
| 11:55.06 | kenlyric | though i imagine the ag_uf in there is just becuase that's the first ace2 mod in your list, so that's where it's calling the lib from. |
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| 11:59.22 | nee|lap | oki |
| 11:59.33 | nee|lap | Perhaps ag_UF is using a very old lib? |
| 12:02.13 | Kinkx | ckknight - do you think you could make /note x,y <note>, be /note GetPlayerMapPosition("player") <note>, if the player haven't entered any x or y? So you can just do /note <note> and it makes a note at the players current position? |
| 12:02.50 | kenlyric | nee|lap: that seems strangly familiar. Couldn't hurt to update, just in case. |
| 12:03.31 | kenlyric | I need search for my scrollback. |
| 12:04.31 | nee|lap | I update many times a day though |
| 12:04.38 | vith_ | can someone suggest an addon to move the zone pvp objective frames? |
| 12:05.11 | kergoth | vith_, i never did find one... i ended up hacking that into Capping.. would be easily done in a seperate addon though, not much to it |
| 12:06.10 | kergoth | how's the new description and screenshots at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6422-kEnergy.html look? |
| 12:06.13 | kergoth | i suck at that kind of stuff |
| 12:06.20 | vith_ | hmm.. i don't like to pvp much but i'll just run capping for now i suppose. thanks :) |
| 12:06.41 | kergoth | well, the bits i hacked into capping, i dont think they ever went upstream :P |
| 12:06.59 | kergoth | could probably just use KC_Mobility or something |
| 12:09.36 | vith_ | oh ok |
| 12:10.17 | vith_ | i'll try that again. last time it didn't work at all, but that was probably patch time or something, i didn't really try to figure out why |
| 12:11.55 | kergoth | just tested moving the objectives frame with it here |
| 12:11.58 | kergoth | worked great :) |
| 12:13.02 | kergoth | just load it up and ctrl+alt+drag away |
| 12:14.02 | vith_ | oooh. haha that's why it wasn't working |
| 12:14.11 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 12:14.13 | kergoth | :) |
| 12:14.36 | vith_ | that's what i get for just getting it from wowaceupdater i guess |
| 12:14.54 | vith_ | works great now that i know how to use it :) |
| 12:15.43 | kergoth | i had no idea how to use it |
| 12:15.49 | kergoth | just took a guess and starte dtrying various modifiers |
| 12:15.51 | kergoth | :P |
| 12:17.01 | vith_ | ah. i expected it to be for frames that look like windows, to enable dragging on the titlebars |
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| 12:37.58 | Ominous | quiet in here today |
| 12:39.21 | kergoth | pretty late/early in the us |
| 12:39.29 | Ominous | oh yea |
| 12:39.43 | Ominous | are you from eu? |
| 12:39.51 | kergoth | no, just up late :) |
| 12:39.56 | kergoth | 5:39am here |
| 12:40.00 | Ominous | :D |
| 12:40.17 | Ominous | how are us servers coping with expansion and lol, |
| 12:43.38 | weab | and lol? |
| 12:44.12 | weab | this is actually the smoothest mmo expansion release i've ever witnessed. i've barely seen anything more than hiccups |
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| 13:03.15 | Sole | my server has outland crashing the last 2 days |
| 13:03.18 | Sole | on peak hours |
| 13:03.22 | Sole | but on my server thats no surprise |
| 13:03.33 | Sole | we could still partially play |
| 13:03.50 | Sole | much better than what we've gone through before |
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| 13:06.23 | Sole | Silviu: the latest commit shouldnt have errors |
| 13:06.34 | Silviu- | Oky :) |
| 13:06.46 | Silviu- | I just updated now and will test :) |
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| 13:22.08 | Silviu- | Sole check your orivate message |
| 13:22.11 | Silviu- | Private* |
| 13:22.24 | Sole | Silviu-: cant respond |
| 13:22.27 | Silviu- | Np :P |
| 13:22.37 | Sole | Silviu-: someone jacked my nick so I cant register for private messaging :( |
| 13:22.49 | Sole | Silviu-: I think it was me, lol forgot pw |
| 13:23.00 | Sole | Silviu-: anyway, wheres the ant error? I just see parser |
| 13:23.59 | Sole | some people are stupid |
| 13:24.25 | Sole | theyre hatin on antagonist but they dont know wtf theyre talking about |
| 13:24.36 | Silviu- | I am not stupid :/ |
| 13:25.02 | Sole | not you |
| 13:25.58 | Silviu- | How u generate a paste from ace.pastey.net ? :/ |
| 13:26.06 | Silviu- | Writed the message but where is the url thru it |
| 13:26.21 | Silviu- | Ok i am stupid now ^^ |
| 13:26.36 | Silviu- | http://ace.pastey.net/5324-3skb |
| 13:26.44 | Silviu- | http://ace.pastey.net/5324 |
| 13:26.47 | Silviu- | Like so |
| 13:28.03 | Sole | get newer ver silviu |
| 13:28.16 | Silviu- | Again ? :) |
| 13:28.22 | Silviu- | Off i hate cia-17 |
| 13:28.23 | Sole | which one ya have? |
| 13:28.26 | Silviu- | he don`t aanounce anymore |
| 13:28.44 | Sole | r25695 is the one you want |
| 13:28.57 | Sole | youre using 694 I think |
| 13:29.01 | Silviu- | Yes 694 |
| 13:29.04 | Silviu- | Oky |
| 13:29.09 | Sole | yerp fixed in 95 |
| 13:29.11 | Silviu- | Thx, and sorry for trouble |
| 13:29.19 | Sole | its fine |
| 13:29.27 | Sole | Im glad someone is bothering to give me feedback |
| 13:29.53 | Sole | anyway sleep time |
| 13:29.59 | Silviu- | Sleep well :) |
| 13:30.49 | steev64 | kergoth: still around? |
| 13:31.01 | kergoth | somewhat |
| 13:31.13 | kergoth | likely going to bed soon, eyes are getting hokey, things are blurry :P |
| 13:31.46 | steev64 | just had some funkiness with kenergy |
| 13:31.55 | kergoth | what sort of funkiness? |
| 13:32.07 | steev64 | i hearthed from honor hold to auberdine (yeah, i know, i need to change my stone, level 61 and all) |
| 13:32.32 | steev64 | and kenergy just kept ticking even though i was at full health and full energy |
| 13:32.40 | steev64 | all i did was waste a distract and it was fine then |
| 13:33.15 | kergoth | wait, was it ticking before you hearthed? |
| 13:33.24 | steev64 | no |
| 13:33.42 | steev64 | actually, maybe - but im pretty sure it wasn't |
| 13:33.56 | kergoth | that doesnt make a lot of sense.. i havent tested much with zoning though, does your energy get reset to 0 or change from a zone? |
| 13:33.59 | steev64 | its 7:30am here, so you know, kinda hokey eyes too |
| 13:34.24 | steev64 | yeah it changes when you zone |
| 13:34.28 | steev64 | not sure it drops all the way to 0 but it does have to tick up |
| 13:34.36 | steev64 | same on login |
| 13:35.29 | kergoth | yea i knew about login, didnt realize it did that whenever you zone though. hmm. thats certainly an unexpected energy loss, but that doesnt explain why itd keep ticking after hitting max.. i just fixed a bug with that.. damnit |
| 13:35.33 | kergoth | you're on current svn i assume? |
| 13:35.59 | steev64 | current as of a few hours ago |
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| 13:37.39 | kergoth | steev64, i just hearthed and my energy didnt change.. stayed maxed |
| 13:37.58 | kergoth | hm' |
| 13:38.01 | steev64 | odd |
| 13:38.05 | steev64 | it changes for all my rogues |
| 13:38.25 | kergoth | just hearthed from zangarmarsh to thrallmar |
| 13:38.29 | steev64 | i have 2 alliance and 2 horde, and it happens every time i zone from each |
| 13:38.42 | groll | kergoth i think u got a version of the mana bug :P |
| 13:38.53 | groll | full mana for well quite some time.. but energy :D |
| 13:38.55 | groll | go test :P |
| 13:39.11 | kergoth | i was just fighting a mob a second ago, normal energy drops |
| 13:39.30 | groll | oke darn hehe no mana bugg on energy then :P |
| 13:40.23 | kergoth | steev64, okay, well the bug with energy being maxed was committed about an hour ago. make sure you have that (revision 25688) and see if you can repro it again. if so, do a /ke debug before you zone and get me your kEnergy savedvars |
| 13:40.32 | kergoth | r29512 (orig r25688): kergoth | 2007-01-21 05:21:57 -0700 |
| 13:40.32 | kergoth | kEnergy: add dewdrop-2.0 embed to .toc, fix issue with energy being maxed by an energy gain other than a tick (i |
| 13:40.33 | kergoth | ncluding anticipated gains). |
| 13:40.44 | steev64 | ahh, alrighty |
| 13:40.55 | kergoth | not sure if that was this issue or not, but its worth checking |
| 13:41.07 | steev64 | what are these azure moonstones used for? they vendor for 1g |
| 13:43.09 | Wobin | jewelcrafting? |
| 13:45.39 | Mikma | ckknight: http://wow.reaktio.net/cart1.jpg |
| 13:50.14 | _neuron_ | Mikma, that's because of skinner |
| 13:52.00 | Mikma | _neuron_: too bad i don't use skinner |
| 13:52.13 | _neuron_ | you dont use anything that skins your frames? |
| 13:52.18 | Mikma | nope |
| 13:52.47 | _neuron_ | ckknight, I get mikma's problem with skinner, but he's not using it. |
| 13:53.00 | Mikma | _neuron_: so, what's my problem then? :) |
| 13:53.10 | _neuron_ | no clue :P, but it can be reproduced when using skinner |
| 13:53.33 | Mikma | so, i have a problem that you can reproduce but you don't know what my problem is :D |
| 13:53.54 | _neuron_ | hehe, well, I wrote it off as a skinner problem, never seen it happen without skinner ;) |
| 13:54.06 | Mikma | seen what? |
| 13:54.07 | TheKarn | Mikma, are you sure you dont use skinner? thats a skinner bottom-frame if ever i saw one :P |
| 13:54.18 | steev64 | wow |
| 13:54.24 | steev64 | your guild needs an enchanter? |
| 13:54.30 | Mikma | TheKarn: it's code from haste, i don't use skinner |
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| 13:54.49 | TheKarn | ah ok |
| 13:54.52 | steev64 | i think there are 5 people out of 61 in our guild who *aren't* enchanters |
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| 13:55.01 | _neuron_ | haha |
| 13:55.23 | steev64 | and i do have an enchanter, just don't have her in the guild |
| 13:55.36 | Mikma | steev64: yeah ok, but you do realize, that picture is rather old now (4 days+) and it's a brand new server where everyone is shaman and jewelcrafter |
| 13:55.46 | TheKarn | lol |
| 13:55.51 | TheKarn | thats gotta be lame :P |
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| 13:56.02 | TheKarn | anyway, anyone know how oskin is coming along? |
| 13:56.05 | Mikma | that's why we kinda needed enchanter hehe |
| 13:56.09 | steev64 | yeah, was some funny stuff |
| 13:56.20 | steev64 | come bc release and everyone took up jewelcrafting |
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| 13:56.32 | steev64 | though i do like those stone healing things |
| 13:56.41 | steev64 | my bloodelf rogue took up jewelcrafting |
| 13:56.54 | Mikma | gl finding minerals |
| 13:56.56 | steev64 | those things are handy, the rest, eh, i can typically loot better than can make |
| 13:57.02 | OvrLrd-Q | not that hard to go mine |
| 13:57.11 | steev64 | really isn't |
| 13:57.16 | steev64 | since i also took mining |
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| 13:59.48 | waffle | Is there a mod that lets you create text notes on quests? |
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| 14:06.55 | steev64 | holy cow |
| 14:07.05 | steev64 | "Dementia Hood of Power" |
| 14:07.14 | steev64 | 179 armor, +86 attack power |
| 14:07.50 | kergoth | damn |
| 14:07.55 | kergoth | thats a shitload of ap |
| 14:08.34 | steev64 | tempted, but i'd lose 20agi, 13 str, and 18 sta |
| 14:09.32 | OvrLrd-Q | drool |
| 14:09.52 | fjoesne | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIClAanU7Os&mode=related&search= |
| 14:10.14 | fjoesne | errr |
| 14:10.19 | fjoesne | wrong channel sorry |
| 14:11.02 | Wobin | zvn |
| 14:11.03 | Wobin | svn |
| 14:11.05 | Wobin | wru? |
| 14:13.59 | steev64 | is there some calculator somewhere that i can put in the infos of what i have, versus a new item, and see the changes? |
| 14:14.35 | steev64 | i currently have the blackstone ring still - which is crappy at 6sta 20ap and 10 hit rating |
| 14:14.47 | steev64 | wondering if i'd do better with 12 agi, 18 sta, and 25 ap |
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| 14:15.15 | Slayman | hey fellas! |
| 14:15.43 | nee|lap | steev64: What class are you |
| 14:15.51 | nee|lap | And what is your role |
| 14:16.09 | steev64 | rogue, and im not sure of my role currently - its a lot of soloing now |
| 14:16.20 | nee|lap | use the new one |
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| 14:16.38 | nee|lap | Stamina is good for soloing |
| 14:17.05 | steev64 | that it is, that it is |
| 14:17.30 | steev64 | my deal is, i spend a lot of time working on the shaman and the be rogue with my girlfriend, and only play the 61 rogue after she goes to bed |
| 14:17.42 | steev64 | or while im at work |
| 14:17.44 | steev64 | reminds me |
| 14:17.52 | steev64 | *packs up bc to take in to work to install there* |
| 14:18.54 | steev64 | thanks for the advice, night all |
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| 14:20.43 | steev64 | so hard to find rogue gear on the AH these days |
| 14:21.02 | steev64 | i tend to have horrible luck looting |
| 14:21.19 | steev64 | just to show - i looted my first locked box earlier tonight - after over a year of playing |
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| 14:26.51 | mjc | moo |
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| 14:32.07 | Wobin | feh |
| 14:32.11 | Wobin | anyway |
| 14:32.21 | Wobin | Anyone who uses HeyFu, please test latest version |
| 14:32.33 | Wobin | and post on board if theres any noticable slowdown in replying |
| 14:32.45 | waffle | did you add a new feature? |
| 14:34.24 | Wobin | I fixed the replyto list |
| 14:34.30 | Wobin | so it saves over reload again |
| 14:34.38 | Wobin | but I had to hook a function |
| 14:34.46 | Wobin | since Blizzard made the lastTell table a local |
| 14:34.51 | Wobin | bastards =P |
| 14:36.01 | mjc | heh |
| 14:36.03 | mjc | noobs |
| 14:36.13 | paranoidi | how can I get rid of the annoying horde/alliance controlled towers ? ;P |
| 14:36.27 | mjc | visor |
| 14:36.29 | paranoidi | or atleast, move it somewhere where it's not fuxoring my UI |
| 14:36.31 | waffle | interface options, display world pvp objectives, maybe |
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| 14:36.50 | paranoidi | oh, I've looked there many timed .. i must be blind |
| 14:37.28 | paranoidi | thanks, this proves it once and for all =) |
| 14:40.07 | Slayman | Wobin, good you are here, can anyone update PT with "Unstable Mana Potion [28101]" and "Volatile Healing Potion [28100]" so they show up under the pots set, i have no access to the SVN right now .... |
| 14:40.34 | Wobin | Sorry Slay, I'm right on the way out =\ |
| 14:42.23 | Slayman | maybe someone'll read it |
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| 14:43.31 | sergio | god i picked a horrible time to level up leatherworking |
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| 14:44.06 | sergio | all the lowbies are price gouging the low level leather i don't feel like farming |
| 14:46.59 | Slayman | tekkub, ping |
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| 15:05.20 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 15:10.25 | jaete | hey guys, a question about taint. it seems that something is tainting my pet bar (i'm a frost mage). according to bugsack it's ace2, or prat, or both... maybe |
| 15:11.01 | waffle | anyone know how to unlock the fubar_questfu quest tracker? |
| 15:11.15 | jaete | so my question: 1) is bugsack accurate in reporting the source of the taint? 2) what can i do to figure out where it's coming from? 3) how do i fix it? :) |
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| 15:18.16 | kenlyric | jaete: drag it by the edge, it's already unlocked. Right click to make to get some more options to make it bigger. |
| 15:18.42 | kenlyric | errr, that last one was for waffle |
| 15:19.11 | kenlyric | jaete: and no, bugsack probably isn't reporting the correct source of the taint. That's the problem with taint. it taints :) |
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| 15:23.50 | Neebler | my taint is inbetween my balls and butthole |
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| 15:32.01 | Diabolic-Destiny | is battleground fu no longer under dev? |
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| 15:34.03 | Diabolic-Destiny | is BattlegroundFu no longer under dev? |
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| 15:38.04 | Diabolic-Destiny | .. |
| 15:38.39 | Tekkub | Slayman, meh? |
| 15:38.52 | Slayman | Tekkub: good you are here, can anyone update PT with "Unstable Mana Potion [28101]" and "Volatile Healing Potion [28100]" so they show up under the pots set, i have no access to the SVN right now .... |
| 15:39.17 | Tekkub | which PT? :P |
| 15:40.17 | Tekkub | and what's their values? |
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| 15:45.54 | Xelar_ | any new versjons of perfect raid ? |
| 15:46.58 | boone_ | anyone have a nice castbar-replacement to recommend, similar to ocb? using that now, but i want a enemy bar aswell |
| 15:47.59 | xlvii | boone_, ag_uf come with a nifty casting bar / enemy casting bar. |
| 15:48.02 | xlvii | looks quite slick |
| 15:48.38 | boone_ | xlvii yeah i've seen that, but unfortunately it doesn't work with Roartindon's frame layout :/ |
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| 16:11.58 | wereHamster | Amadeo, did you read the wine appdb? |
| 16:12.36 | wereHamster | Amadeo, did you read the wine appdb? |
| 16:13.10 | wereHamster | erm.. -.- |
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| 16:22.08 | vhaarr | boone_: CBRipoff |
| 16:22.15 | Leaf_Archimonde | Another noob question ;). Button textures in Interface\Buttons have some kind of border around them, so if i put such texture to the button (SetAllPoints) it will not cover entire button. But Blizzard interface uses same textures and they covers entire buttons. Any hints ? |
| 16:22.27 | vhaarr | ah, enemy cast bar. |
| 16:22.27 | boone_ | vhaarr, thanks, i'll check it out |
| 16:22.33 | vhaarr | boone_: Forget it. |
| 16:22.36 | boone_ | oh :/ |
| 16:22.44 | vhaarr | ckknight: http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_frm/thread/c8fe99ff81a3c895/d82d1c444cfa6a94#d82d1c444cfa6a94 |
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| 16:29.06 | Thrae | Well, it's time to renew my driver's license, which I should have no trouble doing. I mean, who puts off renewing something you only need to do once every 5 years? |
| 16:29.25 | Thrae | OMG I'M LATE FOR MY DRIVER'S LICENSE RENEWAL!!!! |
| 16:29.44 | nee|lap | :) |
| 16:30.02 | Slayman | Tekkub: they are exactly the SAME as Major Mana and Major Health |
| 16:30.14 | Thrae | Slayman: Engineering potions? |
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| 16:31.13 | Slayman | Thrae: nope low reagent BC standard healing pots |
| 16:31.27 | Thrae | Ah, neato. |
| 16:31.53 | Slayman | Thrae: you need to RENEW your license? ROFL |
| 16:32.23 | Thrae | Yeah the engineering pots are the same as Superiors (1800-2500), but they are in 20 stack instead of 5 stack. |
| 16:32.53 | Thrae | Slayman: And you live in a country that you don't? Driver's license is used for the main form of concrete indentification, so it makes sense to me. |
| 16:33.30 | Slayman | Thrae: therefor we have IDs we must carry around and renew regularly |
| 16:33.57 | Slayman | because we have ppl without a drivers license, some of us don't need one |
| 16:34.03 | Thrae | Well, renewing your driver's license just means you fill out a few forms, take an eye exam, and get your picture taken again. |
| 16:34.31 | Thrae | Slayman: With the amount of motor vehicle accidents around the country, it's probably a good idea to have a little regulation. At least eye exams. |
| 16:35.11 | Thrae | Then again, the USA in particular has sucky mass transit, which is why we have more motor vehicle accidents then any other country. That and we're a big country. |
| 16:36.27 | Slayman | Thrae: good point, but once anyone needs glasses they need to add that fact to their drivers license, regarding the other things is the same here with IDs new photos updated information nothing quite surprising except the payment roughly 20 Bucks |
| 16:36.59 | Thrae | Slayman: $30 here, which could equate to 20 in your country...the dollar has been weak recently |
| 16:37.14 | Leaf_Archimonde | Anyone experienced with WoW textures? Button textures in Interface\Buttons have some kind of border around them, so if i put such texture to the button (SetAllPoints) it will not cover entire button. But Blizzard interface uses same textures and they covers entire buttons. Any hints ? |
| 16:37.16 | Thrae | The license could be revoked if they are legally blind, of course |
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| 16:38.58 | Thrae | Slayman: I don't see many differences in the two systems. In the US, if you don't renew your license, you need to take the driving exam over again as a penalty. Again, USA is a big country, so we have to harsher penalties to those that misbehave. |
| 16:40.10 | Slayman | Thrae: don't hate me for it but there are a lot of things in your country that are so odd i want to bomb them |
| 16:41.23 | Thrae | Slayman: 70% of America wants drastic change too. |
| 16:41.31 | Slayman | the Twin towers weren't one of those |
| 16:41.51 | Thrae | Unfortunately, like most democracies, those 70% aren't entirely the voting population ;) |
| 16:42.27 | Slayman | here there are a lot of matters, but none of those are that pressing |
| 16:43.06 | Thrae | When most country's democracies become corrupt, they just piss off other countries economically. When the USA's democracy goes out of control, we have a big-ass army that bombs things. |
| 16:43.37 | Thrae | Think of the USA as the World Policeman that has drinking problems and uses excessive force, but means well. |
| 16:44.02 | Slayman | pretty much like "LOOK! there's an ape with three heads!" |
| 16:47.50 | Thrae | The USA was founded on tolerance. We let in all the wackos and nutjobs who aspired towards a dream of freedom and wealth. Unfortunately, some of those nutjobs are dangerous -- specifically, the religious right, who the US had never gotten totally away from. It was with religious ferver that the colonists marched away from the Church of England and wanted independance. All other modern countries went through the same changes of religion |
| 16:48.41 | Thrae | The US just went through it a bit differently, trying to keep a balance between the two. We're the youngest of the modern countries by far, so problems are bound to happen, especially with a country this large and this diverse. |
| 16:49.16 | Slayman | Thrae: first of all imho "the world" doesn't need a policeman, second how can a country that still practises the death penalty actually think it's system is better in any way then another countries |
| 16:49.38 | Thrae | Slayman: Many states outlaw the death penalty. |
| 16:49.38 | Tain | The US wasn't really founded on tolerance. It was founded by people who were tired of one type of intolerance, and when they got here they started slapping around people who didn't like their type of intolereance. |
| 16:50.33 | Thrae | Tain: I never said they were tolerant. |
| 16:51.16 | Slayman | Thrae: well as those are the united states, and there are united laws, then it should be a united law not to kill people for any reason |
| 16:51.37 | Tain | ehn kill 'em all, let $deity sort them out. |
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| 16:52.30 | Thrae | Slayman: Well that's a different discussion. Other modern countries have the death penalty too, some with far,far more sorted pasts then ours. |
| 16:52.40 | Xuerian | Slayman: I don't know what sort of sympathy you feel towards the few who do get the death penalty. |
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| 16:53.11 | Thrae | Anyway, actually dying to the death penalty only happens in Texas nowadays. Everyone has umpti-million appeals to keep them alive up until they die in prison. |
| 16:53.40 | Thrae | It just so happens our President used to be the governor of Texas. |
| 16:54.08 | Thrae | As comedian Ron White said, "Most states are trying to abolish the death penalty. My state [Texas] is putting in an express lane!" |
| 16:55.25 | Slayman | never ever in history the threat of the death penalty actually lowered the rate of crime, but still some insist it helps |
| 16:56.00 | Thrae | Slayman: Gallup polls show worldwide approval at ~52%. Westren Europe disapproves, but Eastren Europe is all for it. |
| 16:56.09 | Xuerian | Slayman: I didn't say it helped. |
| 16:56.27 | Slayman | eastern europe is exactly like it's portrayed in "hostel" :D |
| 16:56.49 | Thrae | Hostel used to be a cool addon, now it's called Antagonist. Still cool! |
| 16:57.55 | Slayman | you know i meant that funny little movie :D |
| 16:59.08 | Daemona | UHM how do i move the QuestsFu Tracker ? |
| 16:59.12 | Thrae | "Democracy is the worst form of government -- except everything else." |
| 16:59.21 | Thrae | Daemona: Unlock it in the QuestsFu menu. |
| 16:59.21 | Xuerian | Haha. |
| 16:59.31 | Daemona | it is unlocked, but i cant drag it |
| 16:59.43 | Thrae | Daemona: Shift+Left Click or Right-Click |
| 16:59.58 | Daemona | Thrae no |
| 17:00.01 | Thrae | I think that was one of the founding fathers I quoted...maybe Franklin. He was a Libertarian. |
| 17:00.14 | Thrae | Daemona: Works for me. |
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| 17:00.59 | Daemona | it highlights to top most quest in the tracker but i cant drag it |
| 17:02.08 | Daemona | having to click and drag the invisible drag handle is stupid |
| 17:03.05 | Slayman | Daemona: make the Background visible and grab the corner or border |
| 17:03.21 | Daemona | Slayman i didnt modify the background ;) |
| 17:03.36 | Daemona | the out of the box behaviour i meee |
| 17:03.47 | yacoob | anyone has Tunak Tunak Tan in mp3? |
| 17:04.23 | Slayman | yacoob: nope but i wish i had every time i type /dance on my shaman twink :D |
| 17:05.25 | Slayman | Thrae, would you be so kind, and update PT on the SVN with the 2 Pots? |
| 17:05.27 | yacoob | I want to make a ringtone out of it :) |
| 17:05.41 | Thrae | Invisible options are the best options. It challenges the mind as well! |
| 17:05.52 | Thrae | Slayman: What? |
| 17:06.14 | Slayman | Thrae: second plz |
| 17:07.01 | Slayman | update PT with "Unstable Mana Potion [28101]" and "Volatile Healing Potion [28100]" so they show up under the pots set, i have no access to the SVN right now .... |
| 17:07.17 | Slayman | they are exactly the SAME as Major Mana and Major Health |
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| 17:10.01 | Thrae | Slayman: Lemme take a look |
| 17:12.36 | Thrae | Slayman: Damn...do you know how to edit this? |
| 17:12.56 | Slayman | not exactly |
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| 17:16.09 | Thrae | Slayman: PT uses a database of compressed strings with no documentation. I could figure it out on my own, but it'd probably be faster to PM Tekkub or wait for nymbia. |
| 17:16.12 | Thrae | ~seen nymbia |
| 17:16.38 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@67-40-140-44.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 4h 46m 38s ago, saying: 'they're pixels but then the ui scale is applied'. |
| 17:22.44 | jkw | Hm. How safe is MusicStream? |
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| 17:23.28 | jkw | I deleted it instantly when I found out that there was a .exe-file in it. |
| 17:26.14 | phyber | is there a way to force an LoD mod to load through /script commands? |
| 17:26.19 | phyber | I want to load Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap |
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| 17:28.42 | phyber | ah, got it |
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| 17:35.08 | Tekkub | *grumble* |
| 17:35.16 | Tekkub | okey, need a graphics card nerd |
| 17:35.42 | Tekkub | my framerate plumets aroud fire effects... which there are a lot of in Outland... |
| 17:35.56 | Tekkub | what setting do I tweak to fix this? |
| 17:36.10 | Tekkub | ATi video card |
| 17:36.27 | Thrae | Tekkub: Fires and spell effects are all from the game's particle engine. |
| 17:37.04 | Tekkub | so how do I fix? :P |
| 17:37.32 | Thrae | Well you can turn down Spell Effects in the game and see if that fixes the problem...as for ATI's specific settings, I use Nvidia. |
| 17:38.03 | Tekkub | there a setting you'd change on your nvidia that would effect it? |
| 17:38.16 | phyber | Tekkub: do you have Adaptive Antialiasing on? |
| 17:38.37 | Tekkub | lemme see |
| 17:38.42 | Thrae | Maybe, I never looked. I run dual 6600s and never have graphical FPS problems. |
| 17:38.44 | Tain | I pretty much just turn down all video settings in-game to minimal levels. |
| 17:39.03 | Andune | ugg. latest patch for baggins doesn't let me drag my window where i like anymore |
| 17:39.13 | Tekkub | adaptive AA is greyed out in the ATi panel |
| 17:39.19 | phyber | ah, ok. |
| 17:39.21 | Andune | it always resets to the default position :( |
| 17:39.40 | cynyr | Tekkub: could be full screen glow |
| 17:40.13 | Tekkub | but I like FS GLow :( |
| 17:40.28 | cynyr | or the terain hghlights |
| 17:40.33 | Tekkub | lemme do some bombing flights in HF, they seem to run like shit |
| 17:42.56 | Thrae | Maybe even Weather Effects, you never know with those wacky programmers |
| 17:43.07 | Xuerian | I don't think there is a particle setting for static effects. |
| 17:43.24 | Tekkub | hrm.. I think the fight isues are just memory actually, lemme go find some flames to play with |
| 17:43.51 | Tekkub | cause I don't get flight stutter on my home box, it's got more mem and an older vid |
| 17:43.59 | Tekkub | but I have the sime fire issues there |
| 17:44.13 | Tekkub | you know the ramp after the first boss in ramparts? |
| 17:44.29 | Tekkub | when I goin there and the fire goes off screen I spike up to 40FPS |
| 17:44.33 | Tekkub | >< |
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| 17:45.27 | Thrae | Tekkub: ATI again on the home box? |
| 17:45.32 | Tekkub | ya |
| 17:45.40 | Trancer | Tekkub: would it a pain in the ass/complex to remove the FuBar requirement from MountMe? |
| 17:45.59 | Tekkub | uh, dunno |
| 17:46.05 | Tekkub | MM's kinda still in flux |
| 17:46.11 | Tekkub | I don' know where I want to go with it |
| 17:46.17 | Trancer | ah hmm k |
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| 17:46.29 | Trancer | can't use it, no Fu here :o |
| 17:46.35 | Thrae | Tekkub: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=ati+particle+world+of+warcraft&btnG=Search has a few good links |
| 17:46.42 | Tekkub | turned on Vertex Anim Shaders, no effect I can see... |
| 17:46.52 | Trancer | what are you doubting about btw? |
| 17:47.01 | Tekkub | MM is too bulky |
| 17:47.07 | Tekkub | thinking of splitting it up |
| 17:47.23 | Trancer | I would remove the shapeshifting stuff personally |
| 17:47.24 | Tekkub | mount macro, item equipper, dismounter |
| 17:47.41 | Tekkub | yea shapeshifting was needed till this recent patch |
| 17:47.53 | Thrae | Tekkub: Yeah, it's like 100 lines of code. You could split that up into 10 addons of 10 lines of code each! |
| 17:48.00 | Tekkub | druids finally learned to talk in fursuit form |
| 17:48.09 | Trancer | hehe |
| 17:48.17 | Thrae | Or 100 addons of 1 line each!! |
| 17:48.19 | Tekkub | Thrae, it's heavily dependant on SE |
| 17:48.28 | Tekkub | mhich ain't that small really |
| 17:48.35 | Tekkub | anymore... |
| 17:49.29 | Thrae | Tekkub: SE seems like it needs to be rewritten and possibly broken up for 2.0 with new events and API changes ;) |
| 17:49.55 | Tekkub | yea see that's another thing :P |
| 17:50.10 | Tekkub | that's why MM is such a PITA, it's dependant on like all my libs |
| 17:50.21 | Tekkub | and I'm thinking maybe I need to change that |
| 17:50.30 | Tekkub | simplify it |
| 17:50.33 | Thrae | But NOTHING is wrong with embeddable libs! |
| 17:50.59 | Thrae | It makes memory size SMALLER! I made Fooman cost -5mb in memory using Ace3! |
| 17:51.10 | Thrae | It saves you memory. |
| 17:52.17 | Tekkub | simplify for me own sake, bitch |
| 17:52.28 | Thrae | Tekkub: I was being sarcastic. |
| 17:52.31 | Tekkub | I don't give a fuck about user, you knowthat :) |
| 17:53.27 | Thrae | Anyway, if you make the libs do nothing unless an instance of it is declared, then the overhead is insignifigant. |
| 17:53.44 | fatbrain | Who's the author behind Chronometer?! |
| 17:53.55 | Thrae | Unless you're like haste and worry about an extra 2KB filesize ;) |
| 17:56.00 | Tekkub | yea and that's a total rewrite there thrae :| |
| 17:56.21 | Tekkub | and, ironically, a regression to the old API when they were standalone |
| 17:57.23 | Thrae | Tekkub: Heh. At least you're not a perfectionist like me and stay awake at night trying to figure out which modular design I should use. |
| 17:59.00 | Thrae | Tekkub: Are you planning on moving all your mods away from Ace2 libs? |
| 17:59.20 | Daemona | any addon out there that knows the vendor sell price before you have visited a vendor? |
| 17:59.55 | Xuerian | Daemona: Any one that includes a database with it. |
| 18:00.22 | Tekkub | I'm not exactly a perfectionist, I'm just obsessive compulsive |
| 18:00.34 | Daemona | wont help with choosing what burning crusade quest reward to sell @ Xuerian ;) |
| 18:00.36 | Tekkub | and I'm moving over addons that I feel gain from it |
| 18:00.50 | Tekkub | which is most everything that doesn't use FuBar :) |
| 18:01.00 | Xuerian | Then I don't think any mod can, Daemona. Someone has to see it's value :P |
| 18:01.05 | Thrae | Tekkub: Shhh, that's what we call ourselves. Makes us feel less crazy ;) |
| 18:01.18 | Daemona | a pity :/ |
| 18:01.33 | Daemona | i am still shrot of 600g for my epic flight mount and i dinged 70 yesterday |
| 18:01.41 | Daemona | need to optimize stuff ;) |
| 18:02.53 | Tekkub | I'm Lv 61... |
| 18:03.06 | Tekkub | oh and I can buy nice food from HH now... |
| 18:03.10 | Tekkub | :P |
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| 18:09.10 | kenlyric | lol... nothing like a dev fight in commit not4es :) |
| 18:09.17 | [FH]Birdemani | you cant target party members via aguf by clicking on them now? |
| 18:09.21 | Xuerian | Haha, which commits? :P |
| 18:09.30 | kenlyric | buggrabber ;) |
| 18:09.38 | [FH]Birdemani | just did it now |
| 18:09.56 | kenlyric | though, to be fair, rabbit is completely wrong, since those message show up with bugsack installed. |
| 18:10.31 | kenlyric | unless this is an entirely different thing besides the one that was driving me crazy yesterday :) |
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| 18:10.41 | Tain | So someone decided that they figured out how big WoW's landmass is. He claims pre-TBC is about 200km square. |
| 18:11.01 | dracula | what was again the name of that replacement for Ace1...? |
| 18:11.11 | Tain | Ace2? |
| 18:11.38 | dracula | no it was much leaner version of Ace2 if I understood correctly |
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| 18:12.54 | Xuerian | ... |
| 18:12.58 | Xuerian | There is no such thing? |
| 18:13.01 | PProvost | dongle? |
| 18:13.13 | PProvost | But that isn't another version of ace |
| 18:13.17 | PProvost | It is a different project |
| 18:13.23 | PProvost | With similar goals |
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| 18:13.38 | Xuerian | Dongle? That sounds dirty... >.> |
| 18:13.45 | clad|sleep | thats why i chose it =) |
| 18:13.47 | clad|sleep | well it helped |
| 18:13.57 | Tain | cladhaire is dirty. |
| 18:14.01 | PProvost | Hey clad, you can explain it better |
| 18:14.28 | cladhaire | well you've done a good job |
| 18:14.39 | cladhaire | covered most of the relavant points without being a public service announcement |
| 18:14.51 | Thrae | Heh, so much for Ace2. Soon it might just be FuBar and Dongle ;) |
| 18:15.26 | [FH]Birdemani | huh? |
| 18:15.26 | [FH]Birdemani | what did i miss? |
| 18:15.26 | cladhaire | i dont know why FuBarPlugin isn't in the ace core yet |
| 18:15.38 | Tain | That would TaintFu it! |
| 18:16.13 | dracula | aah Dongle is what I meant, thanks |
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| 18:16.54 | Tain | Yapple dapple |
| 18:17.04 | cladhaire | people that don't loot their beast corpses, shoudl die. |
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| 18:17.26 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: qft |
| 18:17.31 | PProvost | agreed clad |
| 18:17.31 | kenlyric | cladhaire: agreed. |
| 18:17.42 | Tain | I only do that when some slapnuts follows around behind me doing nothing but skin stuff I kill. |
| 18:17.46 | kenlyric | especially now, when miners and herbalists can "skin" monsters too. |
| 18:17.46 | PProvost | Drives me nuts to find a field of dead pigs that I can't skin |
| 18:17.50 | PProvost | Tain why do you care? |
| 18:18.00 | Tain | Because I'm a prick. |
| 18:18.01 | Dranor | cladhaire: that's why i dropped skining :P |
| 18:18.06 | kenlyric | Tain: he could just steal the kills from you. |
| 18:18.07 | Tain | If he's doing other things and also skinning fine. |
| 18:18.10 | cladhaire | well for thick clefthoof leather |
| 18:18.13 | cladhaire | it ONLY drops in nagrand |
| 18:18.16 | kenlyric | I figure I"m being nice not killing anything. |
| 18:18.29 | cladhaire | so its annoying when i can't skin it. |
| 18:18.34 | Dranor | got tired of seeing things that i can't skin |
| 18:18.36 | Tain | If he is ONLY following me and skinning too bad. |
| 18:18.52 | Tain | Unless he asks me. |
| 18:19.03 | Tain | Then I'll happily go on. |
| 18:19.15 | cladhaire | what if he's the other faction |
| 18:19.18 | cladhaire | that's my problem currently =) |
| 18:19.28 | Dranor | i tend to loot beasts |
| 18:19.36 | Tain | Die in a non-skinnable corpse induced fire. |
| 18:19.49 | Dranor | those horns, claws and uselesss grey crap are money |
| 18:20.11 | kenlyric | when I see unlooted beasts, i think "oh, the bot must be full" |
| 18:20.13 | cladhaire | specifically, enough money to compensate for the fact taht beasts dont drop money or lcoth =) |
| 18:20.40 | Tain | Typically I always loot everything and destroy something if I don't want it. |
| 18:20.42 | [FH]Birdemani | so ya, i cant click on my party with aguf with the commit i just updated to |
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| 18:21.06 | Tain | I have to yell at people on raids who leave crap they don't want on corpses. |
| 18:21.13 | kenlyric | autoloot is pretty nice, because people will usually pick up everything off a mob a lot more frequently |
| 18:21.25 | kenlyric | Tain: does that work? |
| 18:21.30 | kenlyric | they just laugh at me. |
| 18:21.34 | Tain | Of course they just roll their eyes and say, "There's goes ol' Drunky McTain again." |
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| 18:25.58 | snurre- | annoying that motes and primals are classified as completely random things in PT |
| 18:26.17 | Barbanus | is there a mod that will sell grey items? |
| 18:26.40 | Thrae | Barbanus: I use GarbageFu |
| 18:27.03 | shieldb | automaton has an option to autovendor greys when you talk to a vendor |
| 18:27.25 | shieldb | I find it works much faster then garbagefu, which waits to sell each item individually vs. automaton which just spam sells all the greys at once |
| 18:27.37 | Barbanus | Cool, thanks |
| 18:29.11 | Thrae | shieldb: That's because Garbagefu is more customizable in its white and blacklists, as well as sell prices. |
| 18:29.44 | shieldb | yeah, I run both because garbagefu does a lot of things that automaton doesn't |
| 18:29.44 | Aeliel | I've been leaving stuff on beasts I kill, because I'm still carting 3 kits of equipment around and as such have very few free inventory spaces... that end up being taken with quest items :| so I think I've been pissing people off in Nagrand |
| 18:29.49 | Thrae | And GarbageFu does sell everything at vendors, but it can also be used to drop items based on worth if you are running out of bag space (like I often do) |
| 18:29.52 | shieldb | but for selling greys I find automaton to be superior |
| 18:30.22 | Barbanus | I'm gonna grab both |
| 18:30.29 | Barbanus | Make automation sell my greys |
| 18:30.35 | Barbanus | and use GarbageFu for the rest |
| 18:32.44 | kergoth | any user with a german wow and a rogue or druid around? |
| 18:32.52 | kergoth | need someone to test kenergy, someone reported problems on wowi |
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| 18:34.58 | Aeliel | speaking of Nagrand... anybody who's done the "The Totem of Kar'dash" quest (escort a NPC out of Sunspring Post) know if there's a followup with a reputation requirement tagged onto it? no followup for me but I'm just honored with the Kurenai people... |
| 18:35.06 | PProvost | I do like Thrae. Loot everything I can unless I'm full and even then I check worth and might use GarbageFu to drop somethin I have so I can take what is there. |
| 18:36.01 | Tekkub | okey I think I found half my perf issue... |
| 18:36.09 | Tekkub | Trilinear Filtering was on |
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| 18:36.20 | Tekkub | the framrate said 15, but it LOOKED like ~3 |
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| 18:36.31 | Tekkub | turned that off, looks better same reported rate |
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| 18:40.06 | Dwarik | my spell bar used to show numbers counting to show the cooldown of spells. anyone knows how i can get this back again, i can't seem to find it (using bartender3) |
| 18:40.07 | _neuron_ | http://ace.pastey.net/5339 <-- any good reason why this doesn't trigger OnClick (OnMouseUp works) |
| 18:40.53 | kergoth | Dwarik, install cooldowncount or omnicc |
| 18:40.56 | Thrae | Dwarik: Bartender3 only handles action bars. That was a different addon you had installed...maybe SimpleCB or eCastingBar |
| 18:41.09 | Thrae | Oh wait, read that wrong. |
| 18:41.19 | Thrae | Yeah do what kergoth says. |
| 18:41.35 | Dwarik | hmm, i'll check that. i thought bartender did it to. but i guess i was wrong there |
| 18:41.38 | kergoth | it did. |
| 18:41.41 | kergoth | and now it doesnt. |
| 18:42.28 | Thrae | Dwarik: Bartender3 authors thought OmniCC did a better job. |
| 18:43.43 | kergoth | UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT sends the translated spellname right, german if a german client.. |
| 18:47.59 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 18:49.16 | kergoth | hrmph. why the heck wouldnt kenergy behave.. almost nothing it does is dependent upon translation.. just its options, and looks up a few things in babble spell for stealth and such |
| 18:49.16 | kergoth | grr |
| 18:53.10 | PProvost | kergoth, that was removed from BT3? Okay... I've been wondering too. :) |
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| 18:57.17 | nee|lap | It wasn't remove because OmniCC was there, but because the existing was buggy |
| 18:58.12 | Thrae | nee|lap: But it wouldn't have been removed if there was no viable alternative ;) |
| 18:59.53 | ckknight | vhaarr: you say it only shows when BugSack doesn't exist, but that's just not true from my and others' experience. |
| 18:59.54 | vhaarr | ckknight: I fixed that last night,. |
| 18:59.55 | ckknight | alright then |
| 19:00.05 | vhaarr | So it was true when you made that commit. |
| 19:00.48 | ckknight | it had pissed me off |
| 19:04.39 | snurre- | who's working on periodictable? |
| 19:05.00 | snurre- | the primals, motes and stuff could use to be categorized |
| 19:08.06 | stavmar | Does tradeskill info have all the new recipies in it? |
| 19:09.58 | nee|lap | Thrae: Perhaps :) |
| 19:12.39 | phyber | is it not possibly to enchant socketed items, or am I encountering some weird bug here. |
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| 19:16.25 | jeffrey | i enchanted my socket robes +15 spirit last night |
| 19:16.37 | jeffrey | all my sockets are full plus the enchant now |
| 19:16.43 | phyber | ok, then this is weird :/ |
| 19:18.58 | kergoth | snurre-, nymbia's the one doing work on periodictable-3.0 |
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| 19:24.33 | Viperb0y | kergoth: Hi, I'm the guy who commented your addon := |
| 19:24.56 | kergoth | oh hey |
| 19:25.48 | Viperb0y | The know where the problem is: The "lock" function! If I unlock the bar and then lock it again the bar doesn't work any longer. |
| 19:25.54 | kergoth | ohhh |
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| 19:26.05 | Viperb0y | And by the way.. the German translation isn't the best ;) You need a better one :)? |
| 19:26.11 | kergoth | yes, please :) |
| 19:26.26 | kergoth | the lock thing.. it should start ticking again as soon as you get an energy tick again after re-locking the bar |
| 19:26.28 | Viperb0y | k, gimme a sec :) |
| 19:26.45 | Viperb0y | hm.. k i'll try |
| 19:26.51 | kergoth | the thing is, once the bar stops ticking and our metrognome ticker stops, we no longer know when the start/stop point of the tick should be |
| 19:27.05 | kergoth | we know the time between ticks, but not when to start it |
| 19:27.08 | Viperb0y | no, it givs me an error :D |
| 19:27.11 | kergoth | oh |
| 19:27.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:27.15 | kergoth | whats the error? |
| 19:27.26 | Viperb0y | I've made a screenshot |
| 19:27.30 | kergoth | cool |
| 19:27.42 | Viperb0y | (I got no "copy and paste error addon" :P) |
| 19:28.15 | kergoth | honestly, i'll be happy when i this thing is solid enough that i dont have to screw with it anymore, i've had to rework the way i'm handling the ticks like 3 times now. |
| 19:28.18 | kergoth | ~lart blizzard |
| 19:28.45 | Viperb0y | Hehe, i've read your comment in the source to blizz :D |
| 19:29.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:29.23 | PProvost | Hey kergoth you still using MetaHUD? Seeing protected frame errors during combat? |
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| 19:30.02 | kergoth | actually no, i'm using aguf placed right below the center of my screen, and kEnergy right above that ticking and showing my combo points / energy now |
| 19:30.04 | kergoth | rather than using a hud |
| 19:30.07 | kergoth | its okay |
| 19:30.10 | kergoth | i was trying to trim my addon set :P |
| 19:30.12 | PProvost | ah |
| 19:30.15 | PProvost | lol |
| 19:30.47 | Viperb0y | Somebody knows a "picture upload site"? imageshack isn't very fast :D |
| 19:31.11 | PProvost | Might go back to Ice/Arc and see what I think. I do like Meta, but I can't remember what it was that pulled me away from Ice... |
| 19:31.34 | kergoth | i always thought ice was ugly, but its 'round' style isnt bad |
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| 19:31.55 | Saroz | WTB option to see guild members on Outland map, not zone map |
| 19:31.56 | Saroz | plx plx? |
| 19:32.05 | PProvost | Ice is the only one with the energy tick I think... |
| 19:32.44 | Viperb0y | kergoth: http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9578/wowerror5ry.png |
| 19:35.32 | kergoth | sheesh, imageshack is slow indeed. /me doesnt know any alternatives though |
| 19:36.13 | Viperb0y | Since my server is destroyed it's the only way to share images for me :( Wait.. google will help me :D |
| 19:36.40 | kergoth | lol, it feels like i'm back on a 14.4 baud modem loading this picture, watching is slowwwwwly load |
| 19:36.46 | kergoth | woo, can see the error |
| 19:36.53 | Viperb0y | kebinusan: http://www.250kb.de/u/070121/p/7789d864.png |
| 19:37.12 | ckknight | Viperb0y: for one, you should get !Buggrabber/Bugsack. |
| 19:37.20 | Viperb0y | Upps, tabbed to fast your nickname :D |
| 19:37.21 | ckknight | if you had that, you'd be able to post the error very easily |
| 19:37.56 | Viperb0y | ckknight: Yes, I know.. but I hate memory load :P |
| 19:38.04 | ckknight | too bad? |
| 19:38.06 | kergoth | thats fscking weird |
| 19:38.15 | kergoth | elapsed is nil... |
| 19:38.22 | kergoth | but candybar sets it when the bar is started.. hmm |
| 19:38.27 | Fisker- | omg avoiding parental filter, reported!1 |
| 19:40.36 | Viperb0y | To reproduce: "login --> unlock bar --> lock again --> see that noting happens --> turn off addon via /kenergy standby --> turn on again --> cast distract --> get the error :D" |
| 19:40.38 | Saroz | does cartographer have a feature request page? |
| 19:41.40 | Viperb0y | Saroz: http://wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer/Wish_List |
| 19:41.45 | Saroz | cool |
| 19:42.07 | kergoth | Viperb0y, i think i've got it.. i dont think the barticking flag is properly being niled out when going standby. i presume this doesnt occur if you leave out hte standby in that sequence? |
| 19:42.43 | Viperb0y | kergoth: If I stop it again the error doesn't appear |
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| 19:45.09 | yacoob | Haha, it works! |
| 19:45.20 | yacoob | 'YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!' as incoming text message ringtone 8) |
| 19:45.21 | Saroz | who made the guild feature? |
| 19:45.41 | Saroz | in cart |
| 19:46.22 | kergoth | ck |
| 19:46.40 | ckknight | Saroz: yep. |
| 19:46.54 | Saroz | can you make it show on the big map, not just in single zones? |
| 19:47.02 | Saroz | would be nice for a quick overview |
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| 19:47.07 | Saroz | like group positions |
| 19:47.13 | kergoth | Viperb0y, okay, want to test |
| 19:47.20 | kergoth | Viperb0y, go to line 286 of tick.lua |
| 19:47.34 | Viperb0y | i'a, |
| 19:47.36 | ckknight | Saroz: not sure I want to :-P |
| 19:47.37 | ckknight | I'd have to add a bunch of into to Tourist |
| 19:47.40 | kergoth | Viperb0y, add a new line beofre the unregisterevent |
| 19:47.41 | ckknight | info* |
| 19:47.45 | kergoth | Viperb0y, containing self.barticking = false |
| 19:47.50 | kergoth | Viperb0y, see if that takes care of it |
| 19:48.04 | Viperb0y | k, wait i'll reload zu |
| 19:48.05 | Viperb0y | *ui |
| 19:48.12 | Saroz | ckknight, maybe - thought it would be simple |
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| 19:48.22 | ckknight | it's not :-P |
| 19:48.28 | Dazmal | Hi there |
| 19:48.33 | ckknight | hey |
| 19:49.50 | Viperb0y | kergoth: Now it works |
| 19:49.53 | Viperb0y | But another problem :D |
| 19:50.00 | kergoth | hehe, what now |
| 19:50.14 | Viperb0y | kergoth: If I put the addon in standby mode.. the number don't dissapear |
| 19:50.40 | Viperb0y | "100" in the middle of my screen :D |
| 19:51.35 | evl | Anyone done Shirrak? |
| 19:51.38 | Viperb0y | Same if i lock the bar: "kEnergy" and "100" overlapping |
| 19:51.50 | bindi | is there any eta on the aguf fix? or is it a blizz bug that you cant target some players |
| 19:54.14 | kergoth | Viperb0y, add self.frame:Hide() after the unregistercandybar in addon:OnDisable() in addon.lua |
| 19:55.01 | Dazmal | I'm looking for an addon, I dont know the name.. can anyone help ? |
| 19:55.16 | kergoth | just ask the question :P |
| 19:55.44 | Dazmal | It's the black half-transparent backgroud we see at the bottom of the screen in many compilations |
| 19:55.51 | Dazmal | like in http://paradoxguild.net/gogu/gogusrl-ui.jpg |
| 19:55.53 | kergoth | there are a number of addons to do that |
| 19:55.56 | bindi | "skinner" |
| 19:55.56 | kergoth | one of them is eePanels |
| 19:56.06 | kergoth | skinner does a lot more than just that though |
| 19:56.13 | bindi | idd |
| 19:56.22 | bindi | altho i only use it for the bottom panel :p |
| 19:56.23 | Dazmal | ok Thanks :) |
| 19:56.25 | Viperb0y | kergoth: Works :) |
| 19:56.31 | kergoth | bindi, try eepanels then, probably lighter |
| 19:56.36 | bindi | k |
| 19:56.42 | Dazmal | I'll try both |
| 19:57.03 | kergoth | Viperb0y, excellent. let me know if you run into any other issues. if you dont run into anything over the next day or so, or nobody else does, i'll release 7.1 with those standby fixes |
| 19:57.23 | Viperb0y | kk, i'll send you the translation soon |
| 19:57.31 | kergoth | cool, thanks much :) |
| 19:57.31 | Viperb0y | btw.. 7.1 :)? |
| 19:58.17 | kergoth | 0.71 :) |
| 19:58.31 | Viperb0y | Better :P |
| 19:59.14 | Viperb0y | Ah.. one thing more.. but just cosmetic :D |
| 19:59.38 | kergoth | sure, whats that |
| 19:59.57 | Viperb0y | If I do a "/kenergy lock" the bar showing the "kEnergy" has the "glowing thing" from the statusbar on the left side. a way to remove it? confuses a bit :D (Sorry, my english isn't the best ;)) |
| 20:00.27 | kergoth | oh, the "spark"? the thing that moves down the bar as the time counts down? |
| 20:00.34 | Viperb0y | Yes |
| 20:01.14 | kergoth | i'm not sure if theres anything i can do about that.. i'm using candybars to implement the timer, and to implement locking i just pause the bar at a time of 0 so it stays visible :) |
| 20:01.27 | kergoth | i'll try though, i have an idea |
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| 20:01.57 | Viperb0y | k :) |
| 20:03.00 | kergoth | i might also change the way dragging works, right now it suffers from the typical use of the blizzard ondragstart stuff, where you have to drag it a fair number of pixels away before it starts moving, and by then its jumped past where you wanted it, if you're making fine adjustments |
| 20:03.09 | kergoth | but whatever, minor stuff. i just want the damn tick to behave itself |
| 20:03.25 | kergoth | then i can go start another addon without distractions :) |
| 20:04.32 | Viperb0y | *G* |
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| 20:06.19 | Viperb0y | Anybodes knows a table for codes like this "\195\182" for the german umlauts (don't know how you call it) |
| 20:06.46 | kergoth | you shouldn't have to use those, you can use the characters verbatim, -if- your editor supports utf-8 (unicode) |
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| 20:07.32 | Saroz | many instances are missing maps -.- |
| 20:07.43 | kergoth | patches welcome :P |
| 20:08.25 | Viperb0y | kergoth: k, i'll save it |
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| 20:10.35 | Dhraga | evening |
| 20:11.09 | Dhraga | a question, how in gods name do I put out talent points when having the addon Talented installed ? (Can't figure it out lol) |
| 20:11.23 | Viperb0y | kergoth: Your email? |
| 20:11.54 | Dhraga | ckknight, Thank you for the excellent guild support in cartographer.. verry nice done =) |
| 20:12.06 | ckknight | :-) |
| 20:13.13 | kergoth | Viperb0y, clarson@kergoth.com |
| 20:13.22 | kergoth | Dhraga, switch to the current template, click mode, click edit mode |
| 20:13.27 | kergoth | Dhraga, now you can spend your talent points freely |
| 20:13.37 | kergoth | or you can build a template and then apply it |
| 20:13.56 | Dhraga | Kergoth, thank you.... was mind boggling |
| 20:14.09 | Dhraga | :D |
| 20:15.55 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:16.01 | Viperb0y | kergoth: You got mail |
| 20:17.19 | Viperb0y | The new file is not so "highfalutin" like the old one. Also the old translation file got an error inside |
| 20:18.44 | kergoth | nice, thanks |
| 20:18.49 | Viperb0y | No problem |
| 20:18.59 | Viperb0y | Of course :D |
| 20:19.22 | Viperb0y | I didn't know that WoW supports utf-8 |
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| 20:22.45 | Viperb0y | kergoth: Got another error :D |
| 20:22.53 | kergoth | lol, what is it? |
| 20:23.19 | Leaf_Archimonde | Is GetShapeshiftFormInfo() the only way to get player's current stance ? |
| 20:23.23 | kergoth | and why do i never run into these problems? itd sure make my life a lot easier if it broke for me |
| 20:23.40 | kergoth | Leaf_Archimonde, probably.. could also check for the buff if there is one, like 'Cat Form' |
| 20:23.54 | Viperb0y | kergoth: Just get ma a sec to describe :D |
| 20:23.58 | kergoth | k |
| 20:24.03 | kergoth | please say it's reproducable |
| 20:24.04 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:25.24 | Dazmal | EEpanels was exactly what I was looking for :) |
| 20:25.50 | Dazmal | But now, I need to move the blizzard battleground frame |
| 20:26.00 | kergoth | i use kc_mobility for that, works well |
| 20:26.05 | kergoth | just ctrl+alt+drag to move it |
| 20:26.36 | Dazmal | will it interfere with others add on ? (ag_unitframe for exemple ? ) |
| 20:26.47 | kergoth | doesnt seem to |
| 20:27.00 | Dazmal | great ! |
| 20:27.31 | kergoth | argh, i hate it when an addon has an error, but no error pops up in game, and nothing shows up in framexml.log, but it just doesnt work, no slash commands, nada |
| 20:27.37 | kergoth | not exactly easy to isolate the problem |
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| 20:28.16 | Amadeo | I can't believe Apple is going to charge everyone for Draft-N drivers |
| 20:28.58 | kergoth | hahah |
| 20:28.59 | kergoth | 1/21 13:21:23.165 (null) |
| 20:29.06 | kergoth | what a useful entry in FrameXML.log, no? |
| 20:29.12 | Viperb0y | kergoth: /kenergy lock --> right click on the bar --> click on "lock" on top of the list --> click it again --> click on activate --> click it again :) |
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| 20:29.54 | kergoth | activate? |
| 20:29.55 | Viperb0y | Hm.. it seems that this only works sometimes |
| 20:30.05 | kergoth | oh, it was standby before that sequence? |
| 20:30.11 | Leaf_Archimonde | Also, is it any event fired when player changes stance / form ? |
| 20:30.22 | Viperb0y | 4th entry from the bottom of the list |
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| 20:30.37 | kergoth | Leaf_Archimonde, if you find out, let me know. i couldnt find one, other than watching PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED for the form buffs :( |
| 20:32.06 | Leaf_Archimonde | kergoth: This will not work for rogue? |
| 20:32.06 | kergoth | well, there's a "Stealth" buff.. |
| 20:32.08 | kergoth | thats how i did it in kenergy anyway. not clean, but what can ya do |
| 20:32.17 | Viperb0y | CandyBar-2.0.lua:1211: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'elapsed' (a nil value) |
| 20:32.38 | kergoth | Viperb0y, i'm really starting to dislike elapsed |
| 20:32.40 | kergoth | Viperb0y, :P |
| 20:33.13 | cladhaire | Leaf_Archimonde, kergoth There isn't an event, but you can use a state header to get notified of when the player is stealed/unstealthed and respond to it. |
| 20:33.20 | Viperb0y | kergoth: hehe :D |
| 20:34.11 | kergoth | thats weird.. i do a StartCandyBar, then a PauseCandyBar, then a CandyBar:update()... that elapsed is nil occurs in the candybar update.. start sets elapsed to 0.. pause doesnt touch elapsed.. |
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| 20:35.39 | Barbanus | I haven't played my mage in like 6 months, login, spec him fire, go to outlands ... man do mages rape face now... |
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| 20:36.47 | ggilbert | Barbanus: just in time to get nerfed :) |
| 20:36.56 | vid` | i still prefer frost |
| 20:37.05 | vid` | especially with ice lance |
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| 20:37.07 | Amadeo | ggilbert: hahaha |
| 20:37.08 | vid` | and having arcane blast now |
| 20:37.13 | vid` | frost does pretty good |
| 20:37.24 | vid` | fire is better if you are in gimpy ass gear |
| 20:37.26 | vid` | definately |
| 20:37.35 | vid` | frost needs like at a min +300 dmg to make it somewhat decent |
| 20:37.40 | vid` | and it starts getting real good around +500 |
| 20:37.44 | Leaf_Archimonde | Another noob question: if i have a.b, and a reference to 'b' - can i get reference to 'a' from reference to 'b' ? |
| 20:37.52 | kergoth | no |
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| 20:37.54 | vid` | and now with BC, everyone will be able to get dmg gear |
| 20:37.59 | vid` | and crit % with no prob |
| 20:38.00 | kergoth | you'd have to maintain another table to lookup in reverse |
| 20:38.19 | Amadeo | My Warrior has awful gear, I'm excited to finally be able to get some decent stuff |
| 20:38.28 | Leaf_Archimonde | kergoth: i can suggest that a.b.a = a will not work ? |
| 20:39.02 | vid` | well good thing too is replacing all the epics with greens |
| 20:39.07 | vid` | so repair costs go down |
| 20:39.29 | Amadeo | Money while leveling up is great |
| 20:39.33 | vid` | yea |
| 20:39.33 | kergoth | Leaf_Archimonde, if you set that.. |
| 20:39.40 | kergoth | i'm saying theres nothing implicit giving you that |
| 20:39.41 | vid` | ive made like 400g from 60-63 |
| 20:39.47 | vid` | and thats with disenchanting everything i get |
| 20:39.51 | Amadeo | I finally bought my 150 mount skill thanks to TBC :P |
| 20:39.53 | paranoidi | kergoth: suggestion: please improve cartographer so that if there are multiple notes on small area under cursor it displays all of them. /ty |
| 20:39.53 | vid` | havent put anything on AH |
| 20:39.58 | vid` | or vendored it |
| 20:40.17 | Dazmal | I got almost 1k gold from 60 to 66 :) |
| 20:40.18 | vid` | so igot like 4 stacks of arcane dust |
| 20:40.45 | Dazmal | few, if you consider flying mounts prices :( |
| 20:41.13 | Viperb0y | kergoth: Cartographer is your addon? |
| 20:41.14 | Saroz | which buffalo should I get? |
| 20:41.23 | Saroz | there are branches -.- |
| 20:41.32 | kergoth | Viperb0y, nope, thats ckknight's |
| 20:41.38 | paranoidi | Viperb0y: well atleast he's mentioned in license :) |
| 20:41.43 | paranoidi | ah.. |
| 20:41.46 | Viperb0y | Ah, kk :D |
| 20:41.53 | kergoth | i did the initial version of the professions, herbalism, and mining modules, and instancenotes |
| 20:42.00 | kergoth | cart itself is ck's |
| 20:42.26 | Viperb0y | Because: At work today, i decided to install this addon to stop walking confused around in outlands :P |
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| 20:42.44 | Barbanus | ggilbert, the nerf is hardly anything to be worried about, lol |
| 20:42.56 | ckknight | paranoidi: your request doesn't really fit into how it's done, but I'll look into it. |
| 20:43.32 | ggilbert | Barbanus: eh, it's annoying because it in practice wastes 3 talent points now. |
| 20:43.48 | paranoidi | ckknight: I know, but there's flaw in current design. If there are multiple notes in almost exact same cordinate (like quest NPC's) .. it's impossible to point each of them |
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| 20:44.07 | ckknight | your mom has a flaw in her design... |
| 20:44.13 | kergoth | just one? |
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| 20:44.53 | vid` | cartog_quests too, if a quest npc roams |
| 20:45.07 | vid` | it will create a new one as long as its more than 5 yards out i think |
| 20:45.12 | vid` | so i have liek 20 quest notes in 1 spot |
| 20:45.16 | vid` | from same npc |
| 20:45.19 | vid` | :P |
| 20:45.20 | paranoidi | ckknight: well that's atleast not my shame ;) |
| 20:45.22 | vid` | no biggie though |
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| 20:45.33 | vid` | i love the automatic note sharing |
| 20:45.45 | ckknight | vid`: 20 yards |
| 20:45.49 | vid` | all my guildies that are leveling ahead of me, i get to a new zone and my map is already populated :D |
| 20:45.51 | kergoth | [Ammo], ping |
| 20:45.59 | vid` | with their notes |
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| 20:46.11 | Barbanus | ggilbert, it basically reduces your bonus from +dmg by 10% ... but the talent increases your dps by 16% |
| 20:46.13 | kergoth | vid`, nice |
| 20:46.26 | paranoidi | yes, it's good .. I'm currently trying to get my guild HC-players install it :> |
| 20:46.29 | whizter | hi. is there something like damagemeters for ace2? |
| 20:46.30 | vid` | cartog def rocks |
| 20:46.38 | vid` | whizter not really |
| 20:46.49 | vid` | just use damagemeters or swstats |
| 20:46.49 | whizter | ok |
| 20:47.04 | vid` | swstats is better imo |
| 20:47.10 | Barbanus | ggilbert, with 800 +dmg, its a 5% dps nerf |
| 20:47.38 | ggilbert | Barbanus: right, it can be nullified. It's just annoying to have to spend 3 points to get back to almost the same place you were pre change |
| 20:48.36 | Barbanus | ggilbert, huh? the change only effects people with teh talent.... |
| 20:48.44 | Barbanus | so you dont have to take it ... |
| 20:48.59 | Barbanus | and if you dont take the talent.. you dont get a nerf |
| 20:49.26 | Barbanus | it just makes the talent like 5% less useful |
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| 20:54.33 | Dazmal | hummm kc_mobility cant move the fps-meter ? or am I missing womething ? |
| 20:54.35 | Leaf_Archimonde | If i have received drag from ActionButtin (OnReceiveDrag) - how can i get ID of Action Slot it was dragged for? Or ability name? Or something? ;) |
| 20:54.53 | Ominous__ | ~seen nadas |
| 20:55.42 | purl | nadas is currently on #wowace (3d 1h 19m 17s), last said: 'US allowed both clients to connect due to problems'. |
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| 20:55.43 | Ominous | sigh DCed did purl reply? |
| 20:55.48 | Ominous | ah there :) |
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| 20:58.42 | nadas | hey |
| 20:58.44 | nadas | sup? |
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| 21:01.32 | nadas | Ominous ? |
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| 21:02.05 | nadas | heh, bad conn it seems |
| 21:03.36 | Leaf_Archimonde | If i have received drag from ActionButtin (OnReceiveDrag) - how can i get ID of Action Slot it was dragged for? Or ability name? Or something? ;) |
| 21:05.53 | ckknight | I do it in Dewdrop |
| 21:05.59 | ckknight | check the code in there. |
| 21:08.09 | Tekkub | is it party1pet or partypet1? |
| 21:08.16 | ckknight | partypet1 |
| 21:08.19 | Tekkub | kk |
| 21:08.42 | ckknight | target is the only "real" suffix |
| 21:09.00 | ckknight | in most cases, party1pet can be used but it's translated to partypet1 |
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| 21:12.04 | Leaf_Archimonde | ckknight - thanks a lot! |
| 21:13.19 | Leaf_Archimonde | ckknight: You means 'DevDropLib' ? |
| 21:13.28 | ckknight | DewdropLib |
| 21:14.23 | Leaf_Archimonde | wow, 90kb O_O. Impressive amount of code... |
| 21:14.29 | vid` | hmmm |
| 21:14.32 | vid` | doh i think superinspect broke |
| 21:14.34 | vid` | :( |
| 21:15.32 | jkw | vid`: Read the comment, there is a fix. (If you mean the scale problem) |
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| 21:16.37 | vid` | nah |
| 21:16.43 | vid` | when i inspect certain people, it says test up to |
| 21:16.47 | vid` | and shows half their gear |
| 21:16.54 | vid` | oh well |
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| 21:17.05 | vid` | like mages with that new 2h staff it errors on |
| 21:17.49 | nee|lap | Is there a way to disable shift+scrollwheel bar-changing in Bartender? |
| 21:17.51 | Leaf_Archimonde | ckknight: can you hint a name of function i must examine? |
| 21:18.07 | nee|lap | I have that problem too vid` |
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| 21:18.43 | vid` | bad argument to #2 'sub' |
| 21:18.44 | vid` | or whatever |
| 21:19.10 | Leaf_Archimonde | ah, bingo: GetCursorInfo() will help me! ;)) |
| 21:19.15 | ckknight | Leaf_Archimonde: OnReceiveDrag |
| 21:19.18 | ckknight | yea |
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| 21:22.03 | Kinkx | ckknight - do you think you could make /note x,y <note>, be /note GetPlayerMapPosition("player") <note>, if the player haven't entered any x or y? So you can just do /note <note> and it makes a note at the players current position? :) |
| 21:22.50 | ckknight | ah, maybe |
| 21:23.56 | Kinkx | please <3 |
| 21:24.04 | Kinkx | ^_^ |
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| 21:27.49 | Leaf_Archimonde | Ok, it's clear now. Another question - can i programmatically change item in specified ActionSlot ? not in combat etc. |
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| 21:30.02 | cynyr | it would make it so much easier.. or better yet.. marks the quest givers of completed quests, with a "chat bubble" like display telling you which quest |
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| 21:32.13 | SkorcherX | alright |
| 21:32.22 | SkorcherX | what happened to altselfcast? |
| 21:32.30 | SkorcherX | the adon the interface option? |
| 21:32.49 | SkorcherX | it has dissappeared |
| 21:33.13 | vhaarr | No, you just need new glasses. |
| 21:33.35 | Saroz | which buffalo should I get? |
| 21:33.53 | SkorcherX | nope not there... i looked.. friends have looked... all there is is the "smartcast" which... meh... i dont trust.. i just wanna hold alt cast and have it be applied to me |
| 21:33.57 | cynyr | Saroz: #4 |
| 21:34.00 | SkorcherX | including bandages |
| 21:34.01 | Saroz | -.- |
| 21:34.03 | Saroz | which branch |
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| 21:34.11 | cynyr | Saroz: 2 |
| 21:34.14 | Saroz | -.- |
| 21:34.18 | vhaarr | I think you should use the trunk. |
| 21:34.21 | vhaarr | works fine for me, at least |
| 21:34.51 | Saroz | kk |
| 21:35.33 | nee|lap | Hm. Something about Baggins is broken, some of my icons show outside of the virtual bags |
| 21:35.49 | cynyr | nee|lap: which version of baggins do you have? |
| 21:37.24 | cynyr | nee|lap: cause i just svn up'ed all my mods and baggins is working "ok" here |
| 21:40.43 | nee|lap | cynyr: er, let me check |
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| 21:40.59 | cynyr | is there a way to see the normal bank in baggins so i can ohh idk add a bag? |
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| 21:41.22 | nee|lap | r25687 |
| 21:41.27 | Adirelle | cynyr: disable "hide defautl bank" |
| 21:41.43 | cynyr | Adirelle: ohh |
| 21:41.58 | Adirelle | (btw, this should be disabled by default) |
| 21:42.21 | Adirelle | er... in fact not, stupid copy+paste |
| 21:43.19 | cynyr | Adirelle: yep, thanks |
| 21:44.29 | Ani| | need help... :< |
| 21:44.31 | Ani| | someone knows how to create a visible frame wich dosnt blocks mouse input to the gameworld? camera etc. |
| 21:45.16 | Adirelle | cynyr, nee|lap: check latest revision |
| 21:45.20 | Adirelle | minor changes tho |
| 21:45.34 | Adirelle | (too bad CIA is dead) |
| 21:46.45 | cynyr | Adirelle: id sieve on the SVN as Sieve? |
| 21:46.57 | Adirelle | cynyr: huh ? |
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| 21:47.18 | cynyr | Adirelle: baggins depends on some external, Sieve... |
| 21:47.31 | Adirelle | cynyr: it is not really external yet |
| 21:47.42 | nee|lap | cynyr: oki, I will soon |
| 21:47.49 | cynyr | Adirelle: and i'm running standalone.. so it's kindda a pain.. |
| 21:47.59 | Adirelle | cynyr: er... wait a sec |
| 21:48.07 | Nargiddley | cynyr, its not an external. |
| 21:48.27 | cynyr | Nargiddley: it get pulled in that way |
| 21:48.34 | cynyr | s/get/gets |
| 21:48.34 | Nargiddley | cynyr, no |
| 21:48.43 | cynyr | Nargiddley: it seemed to... |
| 21:48.50 | Adirelle | cynyr: well, it is put into "libs" |
| 21:48.52 | Nargiddley | its on the svn as Baggins/libs/Sieve-0.1 |
| 21:49.05 | Nargiddley | part of baggins, not ready to be used anywhere else |
| 21:49.11 | cynyr | Nargiddley: ahh... |
| 21:49.33 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: maybe should you put it in root dir until it definitively becomes standalone |
| 21:49.42 | Adirelle | I meant external |
| 21:49.46 | cynyr | Nargiddley: well when i'm using standalone libs, with --exclude-externals it was a pain to get it. |
| 21:50.12 | Adirelle | cynyr: it is NOT in the SVN externals properties |
| 21:50.14 | Nargiddley | cynyr, its not an external. unless the script is doing something funny it will be there |
| 21:50.29 | cynyr | hmm |
| 21:50.38 | Adirelle | cynyr: check svn:externals |
| 21:51.10 | Nargiddley | cynyr, just did a fresh checkout with --ignore-externals, it got sieve |
| 21:51.29 | cynyr | Nargiddley: ohh well this was when it first showed up |
| 21:51.32 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:51.43 | kergoth | any idea why the button wouldnt get past to an OnMouseDown handler? |
| 21:51.53 | kergoth | it is being called, just the button arg is nil |
| 21:51.55 | kergoth | hmm |
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| 21:52.53 | cynyr | Adirelle: how do i do that? |
| 21:53.08 | Adirelle | cynyr: dunno I use TSVN :D |
| 21:53.15 | Adirelle | cynyr: wait a sec, I'll try :) |
| 21:53.39 | cynyr | Adirelle: ohh... |
| 21:53.52 | ckknight | what race do people recommend for Shaman? |
| 21:54.31 | Adirelle | cynyr: "svn propget svn:externals " in the directory |
| 21:54.32 | _neuron_ | well.. I had a tauren shammy, but you get bloodfury now, which is damn nice |
| 21:54.51 | Thorgard | ckknight, Draenei! ;P |
| 21:54.54 | Amadeo | I would say Tauren, Orc, or Draenei |
| 21:54.55 | Adirelle | (or "svn propget svn:externals workdir") |
| 21:55.27 | Amadeo | Warstomp is still very nice |
| 21:55.31 | cynyr | Adirelle: nope sieve isn't listed |
| 21:55.45 | Viperb0y | kergoth: Have you received my mail? |
| 21:55.59 | kergoth | Viperb0y, the translation file? yeah, i'll get it checked in |
| 21:56.17 | kergoth | currently reworking the lock stuff to avoid the problem you mentioned earlier |
| 21:56.25 | Adirelle | cynyr: that what we are saying : Sieve is "plain" svn, it is not external |
| 21:56.36 | Adirelle | cynyr: if it was a real external, it would be listed |
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| 21:56.42 | cynyr | Adirelle: kk |
| 21:56.51 | Nargiddley | and wont work as an external, it isnt seperated from baggins properly yet |
| 21:57.14 | Nargiddley | s/external/standalone/ |
| 21:57.24 | Adirelle | cynyr: unless a script does something funny (like wiping out /libs/*), it shouldn't be a problem |
| 21:57.33 | cynyr | all i know is about a week ago when it showed up, i didn't get it, using --exclude-externals, but if thats not the case anymore all is good |
| 21:57.48 | ckknight | Thorgard: gotta be Horde |
| 21:57.55 | Thorgard | ckknight, well that's no fun |
| 21:58.04 | ckknight | what's the reasons for Orc vs. Tauren? |
| 21:58.09 | Adirelle | cynyr: --exclude-externals is based on svn:externals, just saying not to get those |
| 21:58.16 | Nargiddley | cynyr, nothing has changed. it should always have been retrieved |
| 21:58.19 | Thorgard | ckknight, Orc got that silly anti-stun racial. ;P |
| 21:58.20 | [1]Ominous | tauren == way to big orc == hated by rogue |
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| 21:58.27 | cynyr | *shrug* it works now.. |
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| 21:59.14 | ckknight | cynyr: --ignore-externals |
| 21:59.28 | cynyr | ckknight: thats what my script uses |
| 21:59.44 | ckknight | not --exclude-externals |
| 22:00.12 | ckknight | I think I may go Orc |
| 22:00.18 | cynyr | ckknight: i forget the exact option, i found it in svn help when i needed it |
| 22:00.21 | ckknight | why didn't they put a shaman trainer in Silvermoon? |
| 22:00.36 | cynyr | ckknight: BE's can't be shaman |
| 22:00.38 | Adirelle | ckknight: you never know |
| 22:00.42 | Adirelle | ;) |
| 22:00.51 | cynyr | just like there is no rogue trainer in exordar |
| 22:00.53 | ckknight | cynyr: so? they have a Druid trainer. |
| 22:01.37 | cynyr | idk it's to piss people off |
| 22:04.18 | [1]Ominous | any prat authors here? |
| 22:04.37 | Thorgard | Hmmm, agUF still has issues with positioning the party frames when joning party in combat. |
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| 22:19.22 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r25719 10kEnergy/ (Locale/deDE.lua addon.lua frame.lua tick.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 22:19.22 | CIA-17 | kEnergy: |
| 22:19.22 | CIA-17 | - Updated deDE translation, courtesy Viperb0y. |
| 22:19.22 | CIA-17 | - Ensure that the code properly handles being locked at all times (no longer |
| 22:19.22 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.22 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.23 | art3mis | hrm the new baggins seems to have a couple of bugs |
| 22:19.24 | CIA-17 | - Rework the way I handle locking, because CandyBar really doesn't provide a |
| 22:19.32 | nee|lap | wooo! the bot is back |
| 22:19.37 | kergoth | no, i cheated |
| 22:19.41 | kergoth | triggered manually :P |
| 22:19.45 | art3mis | laugh |
| 22:19.55 | Eej | is it me or is prat bugged |
| 22:19.57 | kergoth | Kaelten, Kaelten-Laptop: poke |
| 22:20.05 | art3mis | it's you |
| 22:20.09 | kergoth | Viperb0y, please test :) |
| 22:20.09 | Feldia | anyone know if its possible to make baggins fade out items that you put up in the trade window? |
| 22:20.10 | Kaelten-Laptop | kergoth ! |
| 22:20.13 | Feldia | like the default bags would do |
| 22:20.28 | kergoth | Kaelten-Laptop, cia triggers.. the trigger seems to work fine, is there a reason its commented out? |
| 22:20.31 | art3mis | hehe i'd love for baggins to remembers my manual positioning and settings |
| 22:20.45 | kergoth | art3mis, then disable automatic layout |
| 22:20.47 | art3mis | and to not put slots outside the window ;P |
| 22:20.51 | art3mis | it is |
| 22:20.52 | kergoth | meh, headache |
| 22:20.54 | kergoth | weird |
| 22:20.55 | art3mis | it's on manual |
| 22:20.58 | art3mis | i click lock |
| 22:20.59 | Kaelten-Laptop | kergoth: when I was setting up the server it was bugging when I tested it |
| 22:21.02 | kergoth | ah |
| 22:21.05 | Eej | i'm getting double timestamps with prat since i updated |
| 22:21.05 | Eej | :| |
| 22:21.10 | art3mis | close and open the abgs and poof right back to where it would be if it was normal |
| 22:21.23 | Kaelten-Laptop | just havn't had a chacne to go back in and fix it |
| 22:21.31 | art3mis | its a new thing though |
| 22:21.37 | art3mis | both of the issues |
| 22:21.43 | art3mis | so ill just wait a revision ;P |
| 22:21.45 | Kaelten-Laptop | if you want to get it working please do :) |
| 22:21.55 | kergoth | should be fine now, somebody commit something :P |
| 22:22.31 | art3mis | he changed the layout of the menu too so taht if you set it to manual and try and lock it it resets the position when you scroll over the columns subm,enu to lock it |
| 22:22.31 | Nargiddley | Feldia, it should be doing that already. I'll look into it |
| 22:22.53 | Feldia | well, I didn't try specifically with trade Nargiddley |
| 22:23.02 | Feldia | but I know it isn't graying them out when I put items into mass mail |
| 22:23.04 | art3mis | eej: i have tim3estamps disabled so dunno whats up with that |
| 22:23.12 | art3mis | might be another addon adding a secondary stamp? |
| 22:23.17 | Nargiddley | Feldia, picking up items to the cursor is graying them for me |
| 22:23.21 | art3mis | i know nurfed has timestamp built in |
| 22:23.26 | Eej | i doubt it, because when i turn off timestamps |
| 22:23.28 | Eej | both timestamps disappear |
| 22:23.45 | art3mis | oh |
| 22:23.48 | art3mis | thats wierd then |
| 22:23.49 | Eej | it's only on certain things too |
| 22:23.52 | Nargiddley | hm, might not work for non bliz things |
| 22:23.53 | Eej | like when i loot an item or rep gain |
| 22:24.12 | art3mis | double l;ines? |
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| 22:24.18 | art3mis | or double timestamp on the same line |
| 22:24.26 | Nargiddley | Feldia does mass mail gray out the items in the default bags? |
| 22:24.29 | Eej | double timestamp |
| 22:24.43 | art3mis | hrm |
| 22:24.45 | Feldia | Nargiddley: it appears it only happens with gmail |
| 22:24.45 | CIA-17 | 03kaelten * r25720 10cgProfiler/cgProfiler.lua: |
| 22:24.45 | CIA-17 | cgProfiler - |
| 22:24.45 | CIA-17 | -test |
| 22:24.52 | Feldia | when you put items into the "mass mail" frame |
| 22:25.02 | Kaelten-Laptop | kergoth :) |
| 22:25.18 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:25.19 | art3mis | hey kael |
| 22:25.19 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r25721 10kEnergy/ (addon.lua kEnergy.toc): kEnergy: Fix the 'Reset bar position.' option. |
| 22:25.27 | Tricksta_ | Has ANYONE ...I mean Anyone .....put out a decent bag mod yet? IE - Vbagnon or OneBag , that is freakin working? |
| 22:25.39 | Kaelten-Laptop | Tricksta_: OneBag works |
| 22:25.44 | Tricksta_ | YAY! |
| 22:25.45 | art3mis | would it be a mosntrous hassle to make mobility list the available frames to move around? like move anything!? |
| 22:25.48 | Tricksta_ | THanks Kael |
| 22:26.02 | Tricksta_ | Will update via SVN |
| 22:26.16 | Kaelten-Laptop | Tricksta_: just load out of date addons. I havn't updated the toc number |
| 22:26.16 | art3mis | all in one inv works ;P |
| 22:26.27 | Tricksta_ | oh I can fix that part, thanks Kael |
| 22:26.46 | Kaelten-Laptop | art3mis: yep, because its made to move litterally anything you mouse over |
| 22:26.53 | art3mis | onebag would rock if i could seperate item types like baggins |
| 22:27.26 | Feldia | oh, another question regarding baggins |
| 22:27.30 | art3mis | Kaelten-Laptop: ahh, yeah i moticed that, i was wondering about hidden frames though that dont show until you so something like say the BG minimap button |
| 22:27.44 | Feldia | is it possible to set priorities if an item applies to more than one category? |
| 22:27.58 | Kaelten-Laptop | art3mis: hrm I'm not sure, but my guess is it'd find em |
| 22:28.03 | Feldia | like say I made a category named "grays" and wanted ALL gray items (armor/weapons included) to go into this grouping |
| 22:28.10 | Nargiddley | order of the bags, it goes top to bottom putting it in the first place it fits |
| 22:28.12 | art3mis | assuming i knew where to look for thier location? |
| 22:28.23 | Feldia | hurm ok |
| 22:28.26 | Nargiddley | with hide duplicates on that is |
| 22:28.32 | Feldia | yea |
| 22:29.08 | Kaelten-Laptop | art3mis yep |
| 22:29.12 | Feldia | hurm |
| 22:29.22 | Feldia | I guess that's why I'm having difficulting making some things go where I want them to |
| 22:29.33 | art3mis | i like mobility dcuz its lightweight, but thats actually aprt of the reason i dont use it ;P |
| 22:30.08 | Tricksta_ | yup works like a charm, thanks Kael |
| 22:30.11 | art3mis | when im making a ui layout it makes me sad to see things pop up where they arent supposed to be ;P |
| 22:30.46 | art3mis | and usually that means i need to mvoe a couple of things to get at the thing i want to move |
| 22:30.58 | art3mis | <-- picky |
| 22:31.50 | art3mis | i wish i had skill in lua |
| 22:31.59 | art3mis | and the patience to learn it |
| 22:32.18 | art3mis | but for now ill try and talk the authors into making things for me ;P |
| 22:32.24 | kergoth | clearly your short term laziness is outweighing your long term laziness. you'll save more effort in the long run learning it :P |
| 22:32.34 | art3mis | like merging onebag into one happy little addon that has the ability to sort items like baggins |
| 22:32.43 | art3mis | hehe yeah i know |
| 22:32.53 | Adirelle | art3mis : never tried "all in one sorted" ? |
| 22:32.57 | art3mis | the way i learn though is to tinker with others work |
| 22:33.24 | art3mis | and sicne none of you seem to like making comments in the code that makes it a touch ahrder |
| 22:33.56 | art3mis | Adirelle: all-in-one-inventory |
| 22:34.04 | nee|lap | wow! |
| 22:34.07 | nee|lap | Barbrawl looks cool |
| 22:34.10 | art3mis | or are we talking about one bag? |
| 22:34.15 | Adirelle | art3mis: profile "all-in-one sorted" in baggins |
| 22:34.26 | art3mis | oh i have baggins setup |
| 22:34.32 | art3mis | thers just some new bugs in it |
| 22:34.39 | Nargiddley | like? |
| 22:34.41 | art3mis | i like the interface of one bag a bit better |
| 22:34.44 | art3mis | oh |
| 22:34.47 | Kaelten-Laptop | ya when I can get around to doing OneBad 3 |
| 22:34.57 | Kaelten-Laptop | er onebag 3 |
| 22:34.57 | nee|lap | Ah, no stance-shiftingyet |
| 22:35.03 | art3mis | umm the lock position in the menu causes them to reset to the "marked" location when i try and lock thier spot |
| 22:35.21 | kergoth | [2007/01/21 16:31:27-136-x1144]: Cartographer-r29514\Modules\Notes.lua:531: attempt to perform arithmetic on upvalue 'currentYardWidth' (a nil value) |
| 22:35.25 | art3mis | actually so does opening them |
| 22:35.25 | kergoth | ckknight, you seen that before? |
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| 22:35.31 | kergoth | ckknight, i'm not getting it, but my brother is |
| 22:35.33 | ckknight | hrm, nope |
| 22:35.36 | ckknight | should be fine |
| 22:35.37 | art3mis | so i cant have my quest bag sitting where i want it |
| 22:35.48 | Nargiddley | art3mis, using manual layout ? |
| 22:35.54 | art3mis | Adirelle: even on manual yup |
| 22:36.05 | Adirelle | art3mis: lol, was just asking... :) |
| 22:36.11 | Nargiddley | just tried and i could move them, lock them and they stayed |
| 22:36.11 | art3mis | heh |
| 22:36.21 | art3mis | the lock thing is just a placement bug |
| 22:36.48 | Nargiddley | ok, opening them is still running auto layout :/ |
| 22:36.48 | art3mis | since yopu ahve to mouse over the column settings it resets its location unless yer super specific about the mouse movement to make the columns sub not show up |
| 22:36.54 | art3mis | correct |
| 22:37.09 | art3mis | oh and thers a menu bug in the categorys |
| 22:37.35 | art3mis | when you select the consumables it blanks the menu window of all text |
| 22:37.43 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: oh... i remember something about this... I corrected this this morning, but I touch other thing and finally reverted the whole file :s |
| 22:37.45 | art3mis | be it misc consume or just consume |
| 22:38.21 | Nargiddley | art3mis, make sure you have the latest version |
| 22:38.36 | art3mis | was there an update in the alst 2 hours? |
| 22:38.39 | art3mis | last |
| 22:38.46 | Adirelle | Nargiddley: to fix: test self.db.profile.layout at start fo ReallyLayoutBagFrames (exiting if not auto), then just call LayoutBagFrames everywhere you fnd "CheckAutoBagLayout" |
| 22:39.00 | art3mis | oh |
| 22:39.02 | Adirelle | art3mis: yes, but nothing consequent |
| 22:39.05 | art3mis | i know a feature that would rule too |
| 22:39.17 | art3mis | the ability to copy custom bags between bank and bags |
| 22:39.34 | art3mis | i've love to have my bank layout the same without having to recreate |
| 22:39.41 | Nargiddley | i'm reworking the whole config, i'll get nice things like that in |
| 22:39.42 | art3mis | but thats esthetic ;P |
| 22:39.48 | art3mis | nods |
| 22:39.55 | art3mis | heh one other bug thats odd |
| 22:40.06 | art3mis | it's placing slots outside the bag windows |
| 22:40.22 | Tricksta_ | While I am on a roll, anyone have a favorite Movable Frame addon that is working..or do I just not understand Visor2 very well? |
| 22:40.23 | art3mis | but it corrects when you adjust the columns |
| 22:40.35 | art3mis | visor is too specific and technical |
| 22:40.47 | Tricksta_ | Yeah I want simplicity |
| 22:40.48 | art3mis | mobility is pretty basic and works like you'd think |
| 22:41.00 | art3mis | move anything is still the best for setting all frames hidden or not |
| 22:41.03 | Tricksta_ | Mobility = Ace 2? |
| 22:41.04 | art3mis | alas its not ace |
| 22:41.09 | Tricksta_ | Ahhh |
| 22:41.10 | art3mis | yeah KC_Mobility |
| 22:41.15 | Industrial | < art3mis> visor is too specific and technical |
| 22:41.20 | Industrial | please its very easy :| |
| 22:41.20 | Tricksta_ | Ahhhh |
| 22:41.27 | Tricksta_ | No its not Ind |
| 22:41.30 | art3mis | heh try moving the frames for fu_quest tracker ;P |
| 22:41.34 | Tricksta_ | Its a pain in the ass |
| 22:41.42 | Industrial | yes it is if you go further then |
| 22:41.43 | art3mis | there are at least 8 different frames it looks at |
| 22:41.46 | Tricksta_ | I want something that you can figure out the box |
| 22:41.47 | Industrial | "what does this button do" |
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| 22:41.57 | art3mis | and it doesnt move the whole tracker as one frame |
| 22:41.57 | Tricksta_ | And so does all end users |
| 22:42.14 | art3mis | the fu_quest tracker that is |
| 22:42.20 | art3mis | it moves the blizz tracker fine |
| 22:42.28 | Tricksta_ | No diss on the work put in on Visor but it is not an out the box product addon |
| 22:42.34 | art3mis | heh ind |
| 22:42.45 | Tricksta_ | *apologize* |
| 22:42.45 | art3mis | it's pretty powerful if you've got the patience for it |
| 22:42.59 | art3mis | but like i said "too specific and technical" :) |
| 22:43.13 | art3mis | the interface is easy to use |
| 22:43.33 | art3mis | but how it grabs the frames and what frames it does grab isnt, plus that whole nudging instead of pick up and move is silly ;P |
| 22:43.36 | art3mis | so yeah |
| 22:44.28 | art3mis | basic frame mover KC_mobility(ace), middle frame mover that does standard blizz frames hidden or not MoveAnything!(not ace) and very technical Visor2(ace) |
| 22:45.00 | Tricksta_ | Hmmm |
| 22:45.10 | art3mis | i use moveanything right now |
| 22:45.30 | art3mis | til kael gets bored and adds preset hidden frames and a menu ;P |
| 22:45.56 | Tricksta_ | KC Mobility = 9-18-2005 on WowInterface ....did I want to grab with WowUpdater or do I want an addon just called Mobility? |
| 22:46.41 | Tricksta_ | Damn I must give addon writers props for all the fast and hard work with all these changes blizz put in |
| 22:47.20 | Diabolic-Destiny | hey, who is the author of battleground_fu |
| 22:47.27 | Tricksta_ | Just trying to build a nice UI to hand out to my guild with a simple frame mover |
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| 22:48.56 | art3mis | nope thats the right one |
| 22:49.14 | art3mis | grab it with wowupdate |
| 22:49.15 | Tricksta_ | Still works Art? |
| 22:49.20 | Tricksta_ | Ok |
| 22:49.24 | Tricksta_ | Thanks |
| 22:49.30 | art3mis | to move frames |
| 22:49.34 | art3mis | crtl-shift-alt |
| 22:49.45 | art3mis | since there isnt any documentation to tell ya without reading the code ;P |
| 22:50.00 | art3mis | or shift-crtl-alt |
| 22:50.01 | Tricksta_ | Nice, I will put that in my .doc for the guild |
| 22:50.03 | art3mis | one of the two |
| 22:50.11 | Tricksta_ | hehe thanks much art |
| 22:52.36 | Kaelten-Laptop | kergoth you around man? |
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| 22:52.48 | kergoth | somehwat |
| 22:52.49 | kergoth | whats up |
| 22:53.18 | Kaelten-Laptop | was wondering if you'd be willing to take a stab as to why the wiki update script isn't workin |
| 22:53.36 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg |
| 22:53.54 | art3mis | almost all ace except for i like like 5 addons |
| 22:53.56 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25722 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: .Tablet-2.0 - if title's not provided, don't show a title. |
| 22:54.06 | ckknight | hey, CIA's back. |
| 22:54.22 | art3mis | hehe should name it NC-17 |
| 22:54.26 | Kaelten-Laptop | ck kergoth fixed it |
| 22:54.31 | ckknight | coolness |
| 22:54.42 | Diabolic-Destiny | art3m whats the black thing? |
| 22:54.52 | art3mis | which at the bottom? |
| 22:54.55 | Diabolic-Destiny | yep |
| 22:54.59 | Andune | is anyone from autobar dev team in the house? |
| 22:55.00 | art3mis | eepanels |
| 22:55.01 | Diabolic-Destiny | u need a higher res pic |
| 22:55.01 | nee|lap | Hm. I just realized MrPlow might still be useful with Baggins, to fix unstacked things |
| 22:55.20 | Diabolic-Destiny | hmm do you think eepanels can do what zomgbox does? |
| 22:55.29 | art3mis | the downside with eepanels is that you ened to rm yer wtf folder and start from scratch to make them work and stay properly |
| 22:55.39 | art3mis | its raelly basic |
| 22:55.56 | kergoth | kaelten: sure i'll take a look |
| 22:56.10 | art3mis | all it does it make panels, shaded layer and can use a panel.gif for the background |
| 22:56.18 | Diabolic-Destiny | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5766-ZomgBox.html |
| 22:56.32 | art3mis | havent mucked with zomg cuz i got eepanels working and i dont wanna have to start anew |
| 22:56.35 | Diabolic-Destiny | thats zomgbox its so easy to use |
| 22:56.43 | Diabolic-Destiny | jus install n it looks like that |
| 22:56.52 | Diabolic-Destiny | n it autoadjusts to resolution/screensize |
| 22:57.06 | art3mis | oo |
| 22:57.10 | art3mis | thats kinna nice |
| 22:57.11 | Kaelten-Laptop | kergoth: thanks much :) |
| 22:57.14 | art3mis | eepanels is absolute |
| 22:57.18 | Diabolic-Destiny | yea thats why |
| 22:57.20 | Diabolic-Destiny | its just not ace |
| 22:57.22 | Diabolic-Destiny | but w/e |
| 22:57.24 | art3mis | nods |
| 22:57.25 | Diabolic-Destiny | it also looks pretty :p |
| 22:57.30 | art3mis | hehe thanks |
| 22:57.33 | Diabolic-Destiny | i like the seethrewness |
| 22:57.38 | Diabolic-Destiny | through* |
| 22:57.42 | art3mis | ill have to check that out and see if i can steal the resizing for panels ;P |
| 22:57.47 | art3mis | i dont ;P |
| 22:58.05 | art3mis | i ahve a nasty habit of trying to click on things i can see and getting something i dont expect from addons |
| 22:58.07 | Diabolic-Destiny | o wow, there is a config to do more things by typing /zb |
| 22:58.50 | Diabolic-Destiny | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3356 > Dhud/Metahud replacement??? |
| 22:58.54 | Diabolic-Destiny | any other hud that looks like this |
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| 23:01.01 | Scion | anyone know how i can edit autobar to include the new mage food? |
| 23:01.02 | nee|lap | hm zomgbox looks interesting, I'll try it |
| 23:03.46 | Diabolic-Destiny | is there a barmod that lets me create random action buttons? |
| 23:04.03 | Diabolic-Destiny | kind of like a floater in DAB |
| 23:04.08 | CIA-17 | 03archarodim * r25723 10Decursive/Decursive.toc: |
| 23:04.09 | CIA-17 | Decursive: |
| 23:04.09 | CIA-17 | - Fix OptionalDeps and X-Embeds .TOC tags |
| 23:06.11 | nee|lap | I wonder what xp bar he is using though |
| 23:07.24 | nee|lap | ah, fuxpfu |
| 23:07.36 | Diabolic-Destiny | yep |
| 23:07.39 | Diabolic-Destiny | i love that addonn |
| 23:09.22 | ckknight | so I'm revamping Cartographer's note tooltip system to allow more than one note at a time. |
| 23:09.27 | ckknight | should be interesting. |
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| 23:12.36 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r25724 10kEnergy/ (addon.lua frame.lua tick.lua): |
| 23:12.36 | CIA-17 | kEnergy: |
| 23:12.36 | CIA-17 | - Ensure that our knowledge of the tick isn't lost when locking/unlocking. |
| 23:12.36 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.36 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.36 | CIA-17 | - Fix copy/paste error in self:RestorePosition(). |
| 23:13.54 | ckknight | where's that utf8 library? |
| 23:14.14 | kergoth | in the grid google code svn, i think |
| 23:14.54 | fatbrain | What's in the utf8 lib? |
| 23:14.56 | ckknight | why is grid on google code's svn? |
| 23:15.10 | kergoth | dunno, oddly enough the grid on the google code svn is old |
| 23:15.41 | Diabolic-Destiny | *CRY* is anyone going to fix battleground_fu? |
| 23:16.08 | nuOHEP_ | utf8 is on the 13th-floor |
| 23:16.09 | ckknight | Diabolic-Destiny: you fix it. |
| 23:16.28 | nuOHEP_ | http://grid.13th-floor.org/svn/trunk/UTF8 |
| 23:16.45 | kergoth | fatbrain, with utf8, you can have characters which are multiple bytes. so #str is the length of the string in bytes, not the # of characters in the string |
| 23:16.54 | kergoth | fatbrain, the utf8 lib has methods for things like that |
| 23:17.30 | fatbrain | kergoth: yes, I know what utf8 is, a 31-bit unicode-character-encoding. Thought the lua was utf-8 friendly.... |
| 23:17.38 | kergoth | hm? |
| 23:18.10 | Diabolic-Destiny | Ckknight: how?? |
| 23:18.17 | Diabolic-Destiny | tell me how n i will |
| 23:18.27 | ckknight | I don't know, I don't know what the problem is. |
| 23:18.28 | fatbrain | erm, en unicode transforamtion format which covers the first 31-bits of the unicode-space... |
| 23:18.37 | Diabolic-Destiny | gives me a random error |
| 23:18.42 | Diabolic-Destiny | that has nothing to do wit it |
| 23:18.46 | Diabolic-Destiny | says actionbar |
| 23:18.49 | ckknight | well, I can't help you. |
| 23:19.12 | Diabolic-Destiny | is otravi cooldown no longer supportd on ACE? |
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| 23:19.34 | ckknight | it's Ace, not ACE |
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| 23:19.54 | Diabolic-Destiny | samething? |
| 23:19.57 | kergoth | fatbrain, see the thread at http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2005-05/msg00318.html |
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| 23:20.04 | kergoth | no, it is not. ACE would be an acronym |
| 23:20.06 | Diabolic-Destiny | besides the fact ACE may imply an acronym |
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| 23:20.16 | fatbrain | kergoth: will do, thanks. |
| 23:20.23 | kergoth | oCD is not in wowace svn, it was removed, see the threads on the wowace forum on the subject |
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| 23:22.45 | Diabolic-Destiny | btw ck i switchd to cartographer :P |
| 23:22.56 | ckknight | okay |
| 23:22.58 | Diabolic-Destiny | although i do miss the WOWKB thing...its much lighter |
| 23:23.05 | Diabolic-Destiny | so kudos on the job well done |
| 23:23.24 | ckknight | actually the WoWKB guy is working on porting to Cart... |
| 23:23.31 | ckknight | he emailed me about it |
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| 23:24.39 | Diabolic-Destiny | really |
| 23:24.42 | Diabolic-Destiny | WOOOT |
| 23:24.43 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:24.47 | Diabolic-Destiny | cant wait |
| 23:24.58 | Diabolic-Destiny | u think there will b a metamap kb > wowkb kinda thing .. |
| 23:25.27 | Diabolic-Destiny | not really a big deal as im sure itl use the same basics.. |
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| 23:26.38 | Diabolic-Destiny | hmm, is CoolDownCount no longer under dev? |
| 23:26.59 | Diabolic-Destiny | there are some mods on SVN that no longer function properly and yet are still on it |
| 23:27.07 | fatbrain | What's CoolDownCount? |
| 23:27.37 | Diabolic-Destiny | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2656.20 |
| 23:27.41 | Diabolic-Destiny | i just stumbled on it |
| 23:28.54 | fatbrain | well, what does it do? if it's for cool-down info in the action-bars then use omnicc |
| 23:28.55 | art3mis | hey ckk |
| 23:28.59 | art3mis | i had a question about cart |
| 23:29.12 | ckknight | oh? |
| 23:29.19 | art3mis | how come under the look and feel the fade doesnt fade the whole thing(background/frame) as well as the map? |
| 23:29.31 | art3mis | fade==alpha |
| 23:29.36 | ckknight | Overlay transparency. |
| 23:29.41 | ckknight | learn to look at all the options. |
| 23:29.49 | Diabolic-Destiny | @fatbrain yea but OmniCC isnt ace :p |
| 23:30.00 | ckknight | Diabolic-Destiny: so? |
| 23:30.03 | fatbrain | ... and? |
| 23:30.03 | art3mis | yes and my question is why are there two options to accomplish one simple thing? |
| 23:30.17 | ckknight | art3mis: cause they do two very different things |
| 23:30.23 | ckknight | one fades background, one fades foreground |
| 23:30.33 | ckknight | a lot of people like transparent background and visible foreground |
| 23:30.55 | art3mis | and more importantly why if i fade the overlay will me hitting m (changed keybinding) swap between two different cart maps? |
| 23:31.08 | art3mis | one faded one not |
| 23:32.32 | Diabolic-Destiny | well u could say im being picky |
| 23:32.48 | Diabolic-Destiny | although i used to use omnicc but then bartender included its own cooldown counter n it seems to have been removed |
| 23:33.06 | art3mis | because omni was tiny and does what you want |
| 23:33.08 | art3mis | ;P |
| 23:33.34 | art3mis | its admirable you wanna do it all ace |
| 23:33.36 | fatbrain | Only problem I have with non-ace addons is the lack of a updater application. |
| 23:33.47 | art3mis | heh but sometimes there just isnt a good ace addon to do something |
| 23:33.51 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 23:33.58 | art3mis | but for the most part the major thing are ace |
| 23:34.02 | art3mis | things |
| 23:34.22 | Thorgard | ckknight, any idea what could cause the Look 'n Feel 'tooltip scale' to not effect note/node tooltips but only the player tooltip? |
| 23:34.24 | art3mis | and if i rememebr right someone did make an updater for wowinterface |
| 23:34.37 | Diabolic-Destiny | really? |
| 23:34.37 | art3mis | or curse |
| 23:34.39 | art3mis | yeah |
| 23:34.42 | art3mis | search around |
| 23:34.46 | Diabolic-Destiny | i know ui.worldofwar.net has one |
| 23:34.53 | fatbrain | I once worked on the curse-gaming updater |
| 23:34.56 | Diabolic-Destiny | its come along quite nicly actually |
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| 23:35.02 | fatbrain | not that I got anywhere with it |
| 23:35.05 | art3mis | heh |
| 23:35.20 | art3mis | the only thing i wish the wowace updater allowed was section sorting or author sorting |
| 23:35.30 | art3mis | other than that its a perfect svn interface |
| 23:35.31 | Diabolic-Destiny | yea its still very, um messy |
| 23:35.37 | Diabolic-Destiny | the SVN was a pain in the ass |
| 23:35.41 | Diabolic-Destiny | i couldnt get it to work/install |
| 23:35.49 | ckknight | Thorgard: doesn't matter, the system's changing soon anyway |
| 23:35.54 | Thorgard | Ah. |
| 23:35.59 | art3mis | how could you not install tortisesvn? |
| 23:36.06 | Diabolic-Destiny | i could |
| 23:36.15 | Diabolic-Destiny | i just couldnt get it to connect/download |
| 23:36.16 | art3mis | you make a dir |
| 23:36.17 | Diabolic-Destiny | it was a mess |
| 23:36.25 | Diabolic-Destiny | im happy the way it is now |
| 23:36.28 | art3mis | right click enter host accept cert and away you go ;P |
| 23:37.05 | Diabolic-Destiny | http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/940/wow-mod-auto-updater/ |
| 23:37.15 | Diabolic-Destiny | meh WowAceUpdater does that for me |
| 23:37.21 | Diabolic-Destiny | i simply load it press f4 then f12 |
| 23:37.24 | Diabolic-Destiny | and start WoW |
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| 23:44.29 | Ominous | whats happened to warmup? |
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| 23:47.30 | kergoth | Ominous, grab tek's latest out of his google code svn |
| 23:47.39 | Ominous | ah k |
| 23:48.16 | Ominous | ~seen nadas |
| 23:48.42 | purl | nadas is currently on #wowace (3d 4h 12m 17s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 2h 46m 37s, last said: 'heh, bad conn it seems'. |
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| 23:49.52 | nadas | i'm here! |
| 23:50.07 | Diabolic-Destiny | lol |
| 23:50.08 | nadas | doing shadow labyrinth :) |
| 23:50.12 | Ominous | was it you who wanted me to add the trinkets? |
| 23:50.16 | nadas | yeah |
| 23:50.20 | Ominous | do they work? |
| 23:50.21 | nadas | thanks :) |
| 23:50.26 | nadas | yeah |
| 23:50.27 | Diabolic-Destiny | guys i need help |
| 23:50.31 | Diabolic-Destiny | i wanna start helping with the coding |
| 23:50.38 | Diabolic-Destiny | and well there is a mod i use thats kinda messed and i wanna fix it |
| 23:50.47 | Diabolic-Destiny | its a fubar mod |
| 23:51.03 | Diabolic-Destiny | now i ask you, what are some basics i should know and some good debugging things that i should look for |
| 23:51.07 | Ominous | nadas: great :) |
| 23:51.22 | Ominous | nadas: sorry it took so long i have just been very busy resently |
| 23:51.23 | Diabolic-Destiny | iv decided to stop taking and give back a little |
| 23:58.25 | Dwarik | so how stable are the updates you get using aceupdater. any way you can select to choose beta/none/beta versions? |
| 23:59.46 | ckknight | back |
