| 00:00.12 | groll | Adirelle oh found it :D thanks |
| 00:00.28 | groll | now do you perhaps got any clue how i could get back my hotspot button? :P |
| 00:00.31 | groll | it's like totally gone heh |
| 00:00.46 | thalie | kergoth: me too... theorycraft looked like it belonged there |
| 00:00.50 | Adirelle | "show icon on minimap" ? |
| 00:01.01 | groll | Adirelle tried that i think |
| 00:01.10 | groll | oh well i'll try look some more :D |
| 00:01.16 | groll | thanks for the helop |
| 00:01.19 | groll | help |
| 00:01.35 | Adirelle | check if you have Cartographer_Hotspot for the hotspot functionality itself |
| 00:01.40 | kergoth | thalie: yeah.. should branch drdamage or something :P |
| 00:02.12 | kergoth | hmm, down to 185 addons in the set, 13 of which are either disabled by default due to being situational or fluff or class specific (loaded by S&D) |
| 00:02.15 | kergoth | getting there |
| 00:02.44 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle 07filters * r25817 10Cartographer_Quests/Cartographer_Quests/ (. addon.lua): Cartographer_Quests : filtering quest notes based on quest status (active, complete, available, ...) |
| 00:03.08 | kergoth | Adirelle: neat |
| 00:03.20 | Adirelle | kergoth: need volunteer to test it |
| 00:03.42 | Adirelle | (but not now, I'm going to sleep) |
| 00:04.47 | vid` | hhee |
| 00:04.51 | vid` | found it |
| 00:04.54 | vid` | had ot enable movers in SMM |
| 00:05.50 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle 07filters * r25818 10Cartographer_Quests/Cartographer_Quests/ (. Artwork/): Cartographer_Quests: SVN properties update. |
| 00:06.18 | Adirelle | what's SMM ? |
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| 00:06.58 | vid` | simpleminimap |
| 00:07.03 | vid` | i was missing the pvp objectives |
| 00:07.31 | kergoth | map addons shouldnt be moving shit that has nothing to do with the map, damnit :) |
| 00:07.36 | kergoth | anyway |
| 00:08.39 | Thrae | kergoth: What? Shouldn't a Minimap addon allow you to move the Minimap? |
| 00:09.32 | groll | Adirelle yep i got all modules and all except vendor is running but the darn button refuse to show up.. and also i still get the chat messages :( tried relogging now so will notice if that worked in a sec |
| 00:09.45 | Adirelle | grol: dunno then |
| 00:10.01 | Barbanus | Thrae, I think he means the pvp objectives ... it has nothing to do with the map, but SMM moved it. |
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| 00:10.56 | Thrae | Oh you mean the WorldPvPState frame for Towers / Flags / AB Objectives / etc. ? That's unwarrented then, yeah. |
| 00:11.43 | Barbanus | Yea |
| 00:11.54 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r25819 10Sheppard/ (. Core.lua Libs/ Sheppard.toc): Sheppard: kill the untargeting stuff, which no longer works in 2.0, and switch to using babble for the spells. |
| 00:12.03 | kergoth | Thrae: the movers module does that other stuff, yea |
| 00:12.05 | vid` | wyes thrae |
| 00:12.06 | vid` | :D |
| 00:12.22 | Barbanus | errr, no .. the one that you get when you go to a world pvp objective ... the bar that shows the status of winning over the tower |
| 00:12.24 | Adirelle | night everyone |
| 00:12.31 | groll | Adirelle nope didnt work :( what do i need to save to keep all my mining spots etc? the saved variables for those right? |
| 00:12.34 | groll | doh! |
| 00:12.58 | groll | Kirkburn u here? |
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| 00:15.29 | ckknight | hey all |
| 00:15.38 | groll | howdy ckknight |
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| 00:15.43 | Barbanus | oh god, its ckknight |
| 00:15.49 | Barbanus | I mean ... hi! |
| 00:15.55 | Barbanus | :P |
| 00:16.08 | Barbanus | I wanna go home :( |
| 00:16.17 | ckknight | anybody test Cartographer's Guild Positions stuff? |
| 00:16.20 | groll | ckknight i'm not gonna bug you with my extremely annoying cartographer "bugs"... yet ;P |
| 00:16.27 | groll | ckknight works great :D |
| 00:16.31 | ckknight | alright |
| 00:16.45 | Barbanus | ckknight, does it work for guild members who are not in your zone? |
| 00:16.48 | ckknight | before anybody bugs me about any errors, you _must_ make sure that everything is up to date. |
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| 00:16.52 | ckknight | yes, Barbanus |
| 00:16.57 | Barbanus | ckknight, awesome |
| 00:17.02 | groll | ckknight i always have my stuff up to date :P |
| 00:17.03 | Barbanus | I'll try when I get home :) |
| 00:17.07 | Barbanus | in about 15 mins |
| 00:17.14 | ckknight | alright |
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| 00:17.44 | RUBiK | what mod do you people use which shows highest roll (preferably a fubar addon?) |
| 00:17.46 | groll | but i need to figure out why i cant turn off the messages about getting notes and such.. ie the visible part in the chat.. and to get my hotspot button back.. but removing all saved variables now and doing a clean install so i hope that will help |
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| 00:18.06 | ckknight | groll: there's a way to turn off spam |
| 00:18.17 | groll | i know but it dont seem to work for me :( |
| 00:18.21 | vhaarr | RUBiK: FuBar_GroupFu |
| 00:18.35 | RUBiK | ty vhaarr |
| 00:18.35 | groll | ckknight it's under notes show notification right? |
| 00:19.04 | RUBiK | ckknight: i just noticed you added guild positions (updated cartographer from svn) so i'll be playing with it tonight! |
| 00:19.23 | ckknight | groll: yea |
| 00:19.34 | groll | ok then it sure aint working for me :P |
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| 00:20.01 | groll | but i think it's some funky savedvariables error or something |
| 00:20.50 | groll | but another thing, i got clearfont2 installed, but it aint working fully, but when i disable look'n feel all the fonts change to those set in clearfont2. dunno if it's cartographer or clearfont though :P |
| 00:21.10 | groll | logging back on to test again |
| 00:22.28 | RUBiK | cartographer has a tooltip scaling option iirc, right? not sure if it conflicts with something but my cartographer-related tooltips are huge++ (i.e. 100% scale no matter what i set scaling to) |
| 00:22.31 | hypetech | what's a good addon for displaying quest completion status |
| 00:23.02 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle 07filters * r25820 10Cartographer_Quests/Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: Cartographer_Quests: disabled annoying debugging. |
| 00:23.29 | Barbanus | ckknight, does cart have a way to check the version number of other cart users in your guild? (too weed out version issues) |
| 00:23.53 | Barbanus | too = to |
| 00:23.53 | ckknight | well, no, but it could be easily pinged, the code's already in AceComm |
| 00:24.12 | ckknight | you just do a message from "Version", saying "PING", "Cartographer" |
| 00:24.18 | ckknight | it'll pong back with the version number |
| 00:25.03 | Barbanus | uhhh |
| 00:25.14 | ckknight | granted, I don't think that there should necessarily be a way for Cartographer itself to check on guild members... |
| 00:25.15 | Barbanus | ~~~~~~~ <= flying over my head |
| 00:25.57 | ckknight | maybe I should write a version checker program |
| 00:26.26 | ckknight | so that you put the distribution ("GUILD" for example) and the name of the addon/library you are checking |
| 00:26.38 | ckknight | and then it'll show a list of everyone's status. |
| 00:27.36 | Barbanus | That would be cool |
| 00:27.49 | RUBiK | is there currently an addon which simply exports entire guild roster? (based on RollCall, i guess) if not, i can prolly hack something together for what i need it to do? |
| 00:27.58 | ckknight | use RollCall |
| 00:28.06 | ckknight | um |
| 00:28.06 | groll | ckknight *cries for help!!* :P it still doesnt work :( |
| 00:28.07 | ckknight | wait |
| 00:28.12 | ckknight | export the guild roster? |
| 00:28.28 | groll | did a complete reinstall except for my saved nodes etc :/ |
| 00:28.43 | ckknight | RUBiK: for name in AceLibrary("RollCall-1.0"):GetIterator() do AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print(name) end |
| 00:29.01 | RUBiK | just trying to get a list of all guild toons on a web page.. so i'd write a quick php script to parse the lua file saved by something-using-rollcall-lib? |
| 00:29.11 | RUBiK | sweet |
| 00:29.16 | ckknight | oh, to do that: |
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| 00:29.54 | ckknight | MySavedVariable = {}; for name in AceLibrary("RollCall-1.0"):GetIterator() do table.insert(MySavedVariable, name) end |
| 00:30.07 | ckknight | and if you want, there are very easy ways to get their rank and such. |
| 00:30.39 | RUBiK | very nice.. guild ranking, you mean? |
| 00:31.21 | RUBiK | i assume i can easily just mess with the built-in RollCall stuff to grab everything there is on the guild tab for each player |
| 00:31.24 | testify | So I'm assuming this is Cartographer spamming in my chat window? |
| 00:32.04 | groll | ckknight any idea at all what could be causing it? |
| 00:32.08 | groll | testify yes |
| 00:32.20 | groll | check under notes and then chat something |
| 00:33.09 | ckknight | groll: I don't know what the problem is? |
| 00:33.23 | deltron | anyone know what mod does "LOCATION: "NAMEHERE" 390i8u5987543890785349875,093850925823098509358" in my chat log? |
| 00:33.38 | testify | check what under notes? |
| 00:33.50 | ckknight | RUBiK: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/RollCall-1.0 |
| 00:33.56 | testify | deltron that's cartographer |
| 00:34.00 | ckknight | oh |
| 00:34.01 | ckknight | whoops |
| 00:34.04 | groll | i told you a few minutes ago :P but ok, i cant get rid of the chatspamming, and my hotspot button is totally gone, did a complete reinstall of everything and deleted all saved variables except my nodes and got latest version |
| 00:34.06 | deltron | any reason why it's going into my chat log? |
| 00:34.10 | deltron | heh |
| 00:34.11 | ckknight | must've forgotten to take out the print |
| 00:34.31 | groll | testify and deltron cartographer and for the chatspem |
| 00:34.33 | groll | spam |
| 00:34.47 | ckknight | sorry |
| 00:34.50 | ckknight | I blame gnomes. |
| 00:34.50 | Barbanus | chatsperm??!! |
| 00:34.52 | groll | hehe np :D |
| 00:34.59 | groll | and yes blame the gnomes :D |
| 00:35.09 | ckknight | what should I name my version-checker addon? |
| 00:35.17 | deltron | vca |
| 00:35.17 | deltron | heh |
| 00:35.24 | groll | ckknight but any clue as to why the hotspot button wont show up? tried the reset thing etc aswell :/ |
| 00:35.34 | ckknight | groll: no idea, never used it |
| 00:35.40 | groll | ah okies |
| 00:35.50 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25821 10Cartographer/Modules/GuildPositions.lua: Cartographer-GuildPositions - remove debug line |
| 00:36.15 | deltron | ckknight: how long does that take to post to wowace.com/files ? |
| 00:36.16 | deltron | heh |
| 00:36.20 | ckknight | deltron: 20 minutes |
| 00:36.24 | deltron | ok |
| 00:36.28 | deltron | thanks :) |
| 00:36.29 | ckknight | deltron: just open up Cartographer/Modules/GuildPositions.lua |
| 00:36.33 | ckknight | look for "Print" |
| 00:36.36 | ckknight | take out that line |
| 00:36.54 | deltron | ok |
| 00:36.59 | deltron | thanks |
| 00:37.19 | Silviu- | ckknight prv 1 sec |
| 00:37.31 | Silviu- | When i hover on map ^^ |
| 00:37.53 | groll | notepad i meant :P |
| 00:37.56 | Silviu- | On a player in my party |
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| 00:38.15 | ckknight | groll: why? |
| 00:38.23 | ckknight | groll: uses \n instead of \r\n, I bet |
| 00:38.26 | groll | it looked like crap :P |
| 00:38.27 | deltron | AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral("POSITION", sender, zone, x, y) ? |
| 00:38.27 | CIA-17 | 03derkyle * r25822 10ItemSync/ItemSync_Fubar.lua: |
| 00:38.27 | CIA-17 | ItemSync: |
| 00:38.27 | CIA-17 | - Fixed: Fubar plugin was adding a second unnecessary minimap button. |
| 00:38.32 | ckknight | deltron: yep. |
| 00:38.36 | deltron | ok |
| 00:38.39 | groll | it looks good in wordpad thougb but not in notepad |
| 00:38.48 | deltron | use scite |
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| 00:39.09 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25823 10RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0.lua: RollCall-1.0 - typo players -> playerLevels |
| 00:39.19 | Silviu- | ckknight thank u |
| 00:39.30 | ckknight | btw, someone read http://www.wowace.com/wiki/RollCall-1.0 and tell me if they think it's good, if anything should be added, etc? |
| 00:39.52 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, ping |
| 00:40.02 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: pong |
| 00:40.08 | KarlThePagan | got a new diff |
| 00:40.11 | groll | ckknight does look'nfeel override any chatsettings in any way? as disabling it makes clearfont2 work |
| 00:40.20 | ckknight | groll: not to my knowledge. |
| 00:40.27 | KarlThePagan | for closet gnome - http://ace.pastey.net/5398 |
| 00:40.34 | KarlThePagan | probably needs a little more improvement |
| 00:40.37 | groll | oke, will check with Kirkburn then |
| 00:41.12 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, one possiblu unfortunate change is that queuedSet is now a table |
| 00:41.19 | KarlThePagan | *possibly |
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| 00:41.57 | deltron | ckknight: thanks a bunch :) |
| 00:42.08 | testify | yeah, thanks for the help :-) |
| 00:42.30 | Tain | The Daily WTF potpourri's are always my favorite. http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Chocolate_Covered_SQL.aspx |
| 00:42.43 | deltron | ckknight: I'm converting many over to cartographer from atlas :) |
| 00:42.59 | ckknight | good stuff |
| 00:43.40 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r25824 10LootAlert/ (ChangeLog LootAlert.toc core.lua): |
| 00:43.40 | CIA-17 | LootAlert: (drycoded) |
| 00:43.40 | CIA-17 | - Bump .toc interface #. |
| 00:43.40 | CIA-17 | - Make the decision about which combat text to notify to at addon |
| 00:43.40 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.41 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.43 | CIA-17 | - Make use of the string metatable to clean things up. |
| 00:44.18 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: I'll take a look in an hour or so, thanks. |
| 00:44.28 | groll | ckknight i removed that print line and got this |
| 00:44.30 | groll | [2007/01/23 01:41:07-229-x1]: Cartographer-r25802\Modules\GuildPositions.lua:267: unexpected symbol near 'char(6)' --- |
| 00:44.37 | ckknight | well, I dunno |
| 00:44.43 | ckknight | that's your bad. |
| 00:44.47 | groll | hehe oke :P |
| 00:44.51 | CIA-17 | 03nickenyfiken * r25825 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/TrainerNotes.lua: |
| 00:44.51 | CIA-17 | FuBar_TrainerFu: |
| 00:44.51 | CIA-17 | - Added automatic filtering of trainer notes depending on class and professions. Can be turned off in options. |
| 00:44.51 | CIA-17 | - Added Weapon Master icon |
| 00:44.55 | groll | i'll just get the updated version soon i guess |
| 00:45.02 | groll | anyway thanks for a great addon:D |
| 00:45.13 | ckknight | :-) |
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| 00:47.41 | CIA-17 | 03ricowan * r25826 10RicoMiniMap/ (RicoMiniMap.lua RicoMiniMap.toc): |
| 00:47.41 | CIA-17 | RicoMiniMap: |
| 00:47.42 | CIA-17 | - Removed call to Update() in the ShowTenths toggle, widened the coordinates frame a few more pixels. |
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| 00:50.05 | fatbrain | Who's responsible for fubaring up the tinytip!? |
| 00:50.16 | Mikma | why? |
| 00:50.58 | Thrae | fatbrain: /ttip or /tinytip |
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| 00:51.35 | dirtysanch | hello i was wondering if there is a mod that will allow me to move the default PvP objectives frame? |
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| 00:51.52 | Thrae | dirtysanch: Apparently SimpleMinimap does this. |
| 00:52.15 | kergoth | you can also use KC_Mobility |
| 00:52.17 | fatbrain | tinytip, it doesn't anchor |
| 00:52.20 | kergoth | just ctrl+alt+drag it |
| 00:52.22 | fatbrain | it's always in center of screen |
| 00:52.45 | Tain | Wow Bill O'Reilly on the Colbert Report. |
| 00:52.54 | Thrae | Tain: Welcome to two days ago ;) |
| 00:52.57 | Tain | I believe peace in the Middle East is now attainable. |
| 00:53.18 | Thrae | Tain: Colbert will also be on Bill O'Reilly's show too. |
| 00:53.36 | Tain | I knew it was coming I just missed it when it was on. |
| 00:53.43 | Thrae | fatbrain: With unit frames or just the world frame? |
| 00:54.23 | Tain | I'm so annoyed though. I had to pick up a Tivo because my old ReplayTV stopped working, but I can't belive it doesn't do better than S-Video. |
| 00:54.38 | fatbrain | all frames |
| 00:54.41 | Tain | And I can't justify $800 for a Series 3 Tivo. Ug. |
| 00:54.41 | NeoTron | Tain: the input isn't better so why bother? |
| 00:54.47 | fatbrain | (if I understood your question correectly) |
| 00:55.00 | Tain | It certainly is better. |
| 00:55.12 | Tain | I get a very noticably worse picture through Tivo than without. |
| 00:55.16 | NeoTron | your non-HDTV TV-input is better than svideo? |
| 00:55.23 | Tain | Yes. |
| 00:55.33 | dirtysanch | wow thanks kc did it well |
| 00:55.34 | Tain | Or, it displays better on my TV than through Tivo. |
| 00:55.45 | NeoTron | weird then since tv comes through the worst possible input ... |
| 00:55.49 | Arrowmaster | which svn servers arent out of sync? seems 2 is |
| 00:56.03 | NeoTron | of course tivo does mpeg2 encoding. what compression level do you record at? |
| 00:56.06 | Tain | I dunno, I do DVI from my cable box to my TV previously. |
| 00:56.33 | Thrae | Tain: What's your cable provider? |
| 00:56.40 | Tain | I can handle recorded shows at slightly worse picture, it's the live that bugs me. |
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| 00:56.49 | Tain | Comcast. Whom I despise. |
| 00:57.26 | Tain | I have no choice where I am now though. Verizon doesn't do FIOS to me (I call once a month) and I can't get satellite where my apartment is. |
| 00:57.30 | NeoTron | well I have no real problems with the tivo (on a 54" TV) in terms of quality |
| 00:58.27 | Thrae | Tain: I do fine with my Dual-Tuner HDHMI DVR from Comcast. |
| 00:58.46 | KarlThePagan | ~msbt |
| 00:58.47 | purl | [msbt] Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html |
| 00:58.51 | Tain | I really dislike the DVR from Comcast in my area. |
| 00:59.01 | Thrae | Tain: Not Motorolla? |
| 00:59.09 | NeoTron | I think once you've used TIVO using a "provider dvr" is like cutting your arm off with a dull knife |
| 00:59.52 | Tain | See comcast in my area was doing a shitty assinine thing where if you unplugged your box you lost your saved stuff. |
| 00:59.58 | Thrae | NeoTron: Eh, I'm not THAT addicted to TV for to spend more then $10/month on my DVR box, which also records HDTV (which TiVo can't). |
| 01:00.08 | NeoTron | Thrae: series 3 does |
| 01:00.09 | Thrae | Tain: How long ago was this? |
| 01:00.15 | Thrae | NeoTron: For $800! |
| 01:00.23 | Tain | Yeah but Comcast's HDTV offerings are so pitiful it is barely worth it. |
| 01:00.28 | NeoTron | and tivo really is a way of life. the interface is what makes it superior |
| 01:00.40 | kergoth | i've never had a dvr |
| 01:00.42 | kergoth | i should fix that |
| 01:00.47 | Tain | Yeah I'd love to get a Series 3 Tivo but that's just way too much. |
| 01:00.53 | Thrae | You need to REALLY be into TV to get a TiVo these days. |
| 01:00.56 | NeoTron | I agree it's too much right now |
| 01:01.02 | NeoTron | Thrae: hardly, they are almost free |
| 01:01.18 | Tain | Series 2 Tivo you can get for $50 these days from tivo.com. |
| 01:01.20 | kergoth | MiniButt-1.0 is an awesome name for a library |
| 01:01.25 | kergoth | now we just need a FatAss-2.0 |
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| 01:01.53 | Tain | I looked at building a PC to do recording and be a media server, but to do it right is still $1000ish. |
| 01:01.58 | Thrae | Well a Comcast DVR IS free, except for the monthly fee ;) And lifetime warrenty since it's leased. |
| 01:02.02 | Tain | You can easily get away with building one for less. |
| 01:02.06 | NeoTron | Thrae: and it also sucks |
| 01:02.17 | Thrae | NeoTron: Not for me. |
| 01:02.40 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.44 | KarlThePagan | I've got one of those DirecTV tivos... |
| 01:02.44 | Tain | Honestly the Comcast DVR is fine, it works. But Tivo's interface really is very much ahead. |
| 01:02.49 | NeoTron | however once you've tasted tivo it's hard to go anywhere |
| 01:02.50 | KarlThePagan | they finally updated it somewhat |
| 01:03.05 | stavmar | is the latest cratographer not working? |
| 01:03.11 | stavmar | cartographer* |
| 01:03.13 | NeoTron | if all you want is a digital VCR, then yeah it's probably ok |
| 01:03.22 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r25827 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: |
| 01:03.22 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Fishing: |
| 01:03.22 | CIA-17 | - updated deDE localization (drycoded) |
| 01:03.26 | Thrae | 1) Record two shows at once, or watch TV while recording. 2) Record HDTV. 3) Able to copy recordings to a computer. 4) Cheap. <-- #4 is the creed I live by. |
| 01:04.19 | Thrae | NeoTron: I have certain shows I like and I have them on time shifting. That's not hard with Comcast DVR and fine enough by me. |
| 01:04.19 | KarlThePagan | my tivos have 1-4 |
| 01:04.19 | KarlThePagan | (dual-tuner tivo) |
| 01:04.19 | break19 | stavmar: it's "working" but I had pretty irritating issues, and reverted to the one up on wowinterface.com |
| 01:04.26 | Thrae | KarlThePagan: You have the series 3? |
| 01:04.27 | stavmar | break19: thanks |
| 01:04.33 | NeoTron | Thrae: what kind of scheduling does it have? does it have kid-specific show filtering? |
| 01:04.35 | KarlThePagan | Thrae, a DirecTV provided tivo |
| 01:04.42 | NeoTron | ther are dual tuner series 2 tivos |
| 01:04.45 | NeoTron | isn't there? |
| 01:04.47 | KarlThePagan | so I'll admit they won't let me copy to computer |
| 01:04.51 | Thrae | KarlThePagan: Does that do HDTV? |
| 01:04.52 | NeoTron | heh |
| 01:04.53 | KarlThePagan | but I have another tivo in another room for that |
| 01:04.53 | Tain | Comcast DVR lets you copy to a computer? |
| 01:04.55 | KarlThePagan | Thrae, yes |
| 01:04.56 | NeoTron | I copy to the computer |
| 01:05.01 | NeoTron | tivo does too |
| 01:05.03 | Thrae | KarlThePagan: Yeah that's pretty nice. |
| 01:05.17 | Thrae | Tain: Motorolla DCT has a firewire port you can connect up to a computer, and there's third-party driver support. |
| 01:05.17 | NeoTron | and there's a quick hack to decrypt so you can watch on linux, copy to dvd or whatever |
| 01:05.19 | KarlThePagan | I guess it wasn't "cheap" but I'm not leasing it |
| 01:05.25 | Tain | I've alwyas copied to my PC with ReplayTV and can with Tivo too. |
| 01:05.48 | Tain | Oh that. Yeah they disable the firewire port here. Supposedly I read that they aren't supposed to, but they did it. |
| 01:07.59 | Tain | I have pretty much just resigned myself to enjoying (HD)DVDs and video games on my HDTV, cable just looks like crap to me now that I see better. |
| 01:08.20 | Tain | And I only get a handful of HD channels on Comcast so it's rare to see something on to watch. |
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| 01:09.19 | NeoTron | in either case |
| 01:09.25 | NeoTron | there's a DVR and then there's TIVO |
| 01:09.35 | Thrae | Tain: Some models have it disabled, some don't. I think the single tuners do and the duals don't |
| 01:09.35 | NeoTron | kind of like there's MMORPGs and then there's WoW |
| 01:09.57 | fatbrain | something wrong with chartorgrapher? get a RollCall or CallRoll error when loading it |
| 01:10.05 | Thrae | NeoTron: Other way around for the second analogy ;) |
| 01:10.11 | fatbrain | also get some error expected value was [0, 1] got -4.XXXX when teleporting |
| 01:10.31 | Thrae | Really, if all you want is time shifting for your favorite shows, it makes economical sense to just lease a DVR, unless it totally, totally sucks like in Tain's case. |
| 01:10.48 | NeoTron | Thrae: no? there's "generic something" and there's "something generic but much better" |
| 01:10.53 | NeoTron | mmorpg vs wow, dvr vs tivo |
| 01:11.00 | Thrae | $10/month without a contract > $13/month with a contract. |
| 01:11.21 | NeoTron | heh |
| 01:11.27 | Tain | Actually Tivo is pretty damn expensive now, monthly. |
| 01:11.27 | NeoTron | contract. haven't had a contract ever |
| 01:11.33 | Herio | lol |
| 01:11.35 | NeoTron | but yes I do pay $3 more for my first tivo |
| 01:11.42 | NeoTron | my second and third only cost half |
| 01:11.44 | Thrae | NeoTron: EQ2 and DAoC are not "generic", they're more hardcore then WoW. |
| 01:11.45 | Herio | i have a friend who got TiVo for life way back |
| 01:11.46 | Tain | Buy one now and it is $19.95 a month if you don't get a multi-year contract. |
| 01:12.07 | NeoTron | Thrae: theer's bad mmos like EA2 and good ones like WoW |
| 01:12.08 | Thrae | NeoTron: You're lucky for getting in early. |
| 01:12.34 | NeoTron | Tain: that's because they give you the box for essentially free |
| 01:12.37 | Tain | Yeahh well I got in early with ReplayTV and they went out of business. |
| 01:13.21 | Tain | Dont' get me wrong, I think the cable provided DVR is good in general. But Tivo has a lot going for it that you pay a little more for. |
| 01:13.30 | Thrae | Comcast is also going to switch DVR models to TiVo. |
| 01:13.37 | Tain | Well |
| 01:13.44 | Thrae | At least in my area, I don't know what's up with your area Tain. |
| 01:13.46 | Tain | They've been in talks with Tivo for a long time. |
| 01:14.06 | NeoTron | see tivo has all these nice little patents... |
| 01:14.06 | Tain | To the point where it has become, "I'll believe it when I see it." |
| 01:14.13 | kergoth | ckknight: might want to unsticky the flyspray thread in the wowace forums if people are back on trac |
| 01:14.18 | kergoth | ckknight: the links there are dead, of course |
| 01:14.21 | ckknight | probably |
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| 01:14.36 | NeoTron | and for once I think tivo is in all their rights suing companies infringing |
| 01:14.43 | Thrae | Yeah, and I can see 'em doing it -- TiVo is getting hurt with Cable providers who offer their own DVR services. People like to go for what's right in front of them. |
| 01:14.53 | NeoTron | especially ones that first talked to tivo, then declined to license and then went and did their own product |
| 01:14.55 | kergoth | k i unstuck it |
| 01:15.24 | NeoTron | I think most people that have tried and used a tivo pretty quickly see how superior it actually is. problem is getting to that point |
| 01:15.28 | Amadeo | What's with the offline maintenence? I thought they did away with that? |
| 01:15.51 | Tain | No, they were going to try to do some maintenance online. |
| 01:15.58 | Tain | They never said they'd remove offline entirely. |
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| 01:16.05 | Thrae | I've used a TiVo. I agree it's superior to what I have. But there is a cost vs benefit analysis to figure in here. |
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| 01:16.25 | Amadeo | Tain: Have they done any online? |
| 01:16.34 | Tain | I have no idea! |
| 01:16.47 | NeoTron | Thrae: and to me it's more than worth it |
| 01:17.01 | Thrae | NeoTron: And that's your preference. |
| 01:17.06 | NeoTron | Thrae: I've used an alternative DVR (not comcast mind you) and it was pretty much a clusterfuck in terms of use and design |
| 01:17.13 | Tain | Tivo still is just insane trying to sell Series 3 for that price. |
| 01:17.25 | NeoTron | think about what their target market is |
| 01:17.32 | NeoTron | and it's not such a bad price point |
| 01:17.34 | Tain | Yes it is. |
| 01:17.37 | Tain | IT's fucking absurd. |
| 01:17.38 | NeoTron | it's the same market as blueray and hd-dvd |
| 01:17.47 | Tain | Then they just priced themselves out of business. |
| 01:17.59 | NeoTron | it's not EASY to make a generic hdtv receiver |
| 01:18.05 | NeoTron | why do you think it took so long? |
| 01:18.12 | Tain | Especially considering the fact that you need to ALSO rent cablecards from your cable company at additional cost. |
| 01:18.31 | Thrae | I like HDTV, and I'm not getting Blueray and HD-DVD. I can see a HUGE difference from HDTV vs normal, but not DVD vs Blueray / HD-DVD. |
| 01:18.38 | NeoTron | it's easy to make a provider specific HDTV |
| 01:18.45 | NeoTron | but everyone seems to like to have their own standard |
| 01:19.13 | Tain | Thrae I have a HD-DVD player and there have been a couple of movies that I've watched that are a big difference. And then some others that were nothing. |
| 01:19.16 | NeoTron | Thrae: err. the difference between dvd and bluray/hd-dvd is identical |
| 01:19.38 | NeoTron | the market is immature of course so who knows what the quality of the current content is |
| 01:20.07 | vhaarr | there's no quality difference inherit in blueray/hddvd, they're just bigger |
| 01:20.09 | Tain | Really HD-DVD and Bluray both aren't about today as much as tomorrow. I'd never have bought a HD-DVD player if it weren't $200 to add on to the Xbox 360 I already had. |
| 01:20.27 | Tain | He's saying he doesn't see a huge difference in watching a DVD, and watching either HD-DVD or Bluray. |
| 01:20.34 | Tain | Not comparing HD-DVD and Bluray to each other. |
| 01:21.04 | NeoTron | I'm definitely not buying any HD video player atm |
| 01:21.06 | Tain | And with some discs today that is absolutely the case, there's not a big difference. There's little differences, visually. |
| 01:21.19 | NeoTron | too expensive and too uncertain |
| 01:21.33 | NeoTron | I wouldn't be surprised though if the winner will be both formats, and that there will be dual-format players |
| 01:21.37 | Thrae | VHS == Somewhat Grainy, DVD == Not Grainy. Analog == Somewhat Grainy, HDTV == Not Grainy. That's enough for me. |
| 01:21.39 | Tain | Well, I don't think there's anything uncertain about it. I think both HD-DVD and Bluray will be around. |
| 01:21.54 | Tain | Neither one will "win" and be the dominant format. |
| 01:22.05 | NeoTron | Thrae: the main benefit of hdtv to you is "not grainy"? heh. |
| 01:22.34 | NeoTron | however until you can readily rent HD formats and new movies come out, I won't get a player |
| 01:22.40 | Tain | Netflix |
| 01:22.45 | NeoTron | as I am not a person to buy movies (don't care to see them again) |
| 01:22.49 | Thrae | Sony will be hit hard and might lose the console wars for pushing Blu-ray so hard, but if they keep at the current pace, then Blu-ray will keep in the game. |
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| 01:23.04 | NeoTron | Tain: well yes but how much content is available? do most/all new movies come out in a timely fashion? |
| 01:23.14 | Thrae | NeoTron: DVD from VHS is a huge improvement. HD-DVD/Blu-ray from DVD not nearly as much. |
| 01:23.42 | Tain | There is a lot of content available. New movies will be hitting HD-DVD or Bluray at the same time as DVD. |
| 01:23.45 | NeoTron | Thrae: actually it is, technically speaking |
| 01:23.59 | Tain | Older movies are hit and miss, and in many cases not worth it. |
| 01:24.16 | NeoTron | don't tell me 480p to 720p or 1080i/1080p isn't bigger from 480i VHS to 480p dvd |
| 01:24.27 | Tain | It isn't. |
| 01:24.35 | NeoTron | one is a bit clearer, another one is a major increase in details |
| 01:24.42 | Thrae | NeoTron: I'm not speaking technically. I'm speaking in general, for the majority of us who aren't graphic design majors. |
| 01:24.50 | Tain | No, one is a lot clearer, the other is an increase in small details. |
| 01:25.11 | Tain | Sure it is a lot of small details, but the impact of fuzzy to clear is greater. |
| 01:25.37 | NeoTron | as I said, not seeing a need to buy anything any time soon |
| 01:25.43 | Kaelten | who's having problems with svn.wowace.com? |
| 01:25.45 | Thrae | Yesterday someone showed me a link for $15,000 audio cables designed for home use. Who needs $15,000 audio cables? Someone who can hear the difference. Most of us can. |
| 01:25.50 | Thrae | s/can/can't/ |
| 01:26.08 | Thrae | Dammit |
| 01:26.12 | Tain | No one can hear that difference, those are marketed to people with large egos and large disposable income. |
| 01:26.23 | Thrae | s/us can/us can't/ |
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| 01:26.31 | WobWork | hehe |
| 01:27.15 | Thrae | Tain: To me, you need disposable income or a serious addiction to TV to get a TiVo at current prices and promotions ;) |
| 01:27.18 | vhaarr | WobWork: I want to make the ignore list in MrPlow go from self.db.profile to self.db.char, thoughts? |
| 01:27.41 | Tain | Well a Tivo is barely more expensive than renting from your cable company, to be honest. |
| 01:28.06 | Thrae | Tain: Well not if you want HDTV ;) |
| 01:28.18 | Thrae | s/want/want to record/ |
| 01:28.25 | Tain | I suppose. But I'm just jaded at the severe lack of HDTV channels. |
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| 01:29.03 | Tain | Or the poor HDTV channels like TNTHD who are the hacks of the HD world. |
| 01:29.47 | Thrae | ggilbert: HD Tuners w/ Cable-Card inputs are still a little bit away. |
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| 01:30.16 | ggilbert | Thrae: yeah, makes hd a losing proposition for me :) |
| 01:30.36 | Thrae | Tain: Eh, I might go for getting rid of HD + DVR for just bittorrent downloads. |
| 01:30.54 | fatbrain | this tinytip is giving me headackes |
| 01:32.24 | Tain | From my completely egocentric point of view that I don't pretend applies unilaterally the only TV that I really enjoy in HD is sports. Or if I feel like watching Discovery. |
| 01:32.50 | Thrae | fatbrain: Works well enough for me. Use TipBuddy if you don't like TinyTip. |
| 01:32.57 | Tain | The rest to me is just television, and I'm more concerned with DVDs and video games on my HD. |
| 01:33.11 | Thrae | Tain: Yeah that's the thing. I don't want sports. |
| 01:33.17 | Thrae | s/want/watch/ |
| 01:33.31 | Tain | But I couldn't barely find anything to watch on network stations otherwise. |
| 01:33.50 | ggilbert | Tain: yeah. I come from the tiny subset of users who don't even watch things on a TV |
| 01:34.26 | Tain | I watch just a few things, but they're on at times I never am at the TV. |
| 01:34.30 | Tain | But there *are* good things on TV. |
| 01:34.38 | Tain | I learned that with my DVR before. |
| 01:34.40 | Thrae | The only thing I watch in HDTV right now myself is L&O. I need to see what my grandfather watches. |
| 01:34.42 | Tain | You just have to find them. |
| 01:35.08 | Thrae | I'm going to be finally getting medical insurance, which will be ~$200/month. I need to start cutting back. |
| 01:35.55 | Tain | Screw insurance! You need HBO! |
| 01:36.13 | Tain | Also Comcast can bite my ass for their website not working right with Firefox. |
| 01:37.27 | Tain | Oh and Comcast DVR is $15 a month here, I just checked. |
| 01:44.23 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25828 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - hopefully fix nil bug |
| 01:47.18 | Amadeo | What's the best SVN client that doesn't integrate with Explorer in Windows? |
| 01:47.34 | ckknight | TortoiseSVN |
| 01:47.34 | Thrae | Amadeo: SmartSVN or command line |
| 01:47.35 | ckknight | oh |
| 01:47.37 | ckknight | um |
| 01:47.45 | ckknight | command line :-P |
| 01:48.12 | Barbanus | wow, gogo memory leak in firefox |
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| 01:48.25 | Amadeo | command line version is from subversion.tigris.org? |
| 01:49.35 | Silviu- | Amadeo http://subversion.tigris.org/files/documents/15/35379/svn-1.4.2-setup.exe |
| 01:49.43 | Amadeo | thank ya |
| 01:49.55 | Silviu- | Np |
| 01:49.56 | fatbrain | Thrae: I love Tinytip, worked for me as well, I reinstalled my ace-addons, that's what made it fubar :( |
| 01:49.58 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25829 10Cartographer/Modules/POI.lua: Cartographer - added svn:keywords to POI.lua |
| 01:50.39 | Thrae | fatbrain: You reinstalled since 2.0? Some parts of TinyTip still haven't been updated for 2.0. |
| 01:50.45 | Amadeo | that's crazy, the command line version of SVN is a larger zip than SmartSVN |
| 01:51.04 | Thrae | Amadeo: Includes server too, I think. |
| 01:51.11 | Amadeo | oh, one's a setup.exe, so that's one reason |
| 01:51.14 | Amadeo | I didn't pay attention |
| 01:52.05 | Amadeo | I'm not a big Java fan, but ... here goes |
| 01:52.09 | Tain | Rumor has it Lord of the Rings Online Beta phase 2 just started. |
| 01:52.26 | fatbrain | Thrae: I reinstalled just 1h ago, tinytip has worked without problems until I did the reinstall.. |
| 01:52.31 | Amadeo | Tain: I think they invited me to that |
| 01:52.54 | Thrae | fatbrain: Delete TinyTip's SV file. |
| 01:52.58 | Tain | I don't remember what the NDA says so I can't say if I were invited or not |
| 01:53.09 | Amadeo | haha |
| 01:53.53 | fatbrain | Thrae: tried that already |
| 01:54.17 | Thrae | fatbrain: Latest from SVN? |
| 01:55.28 | fatbrain | Thrae: Yes, but I changed back to my previous version just now, and I still have the same problem, so the problem must lie elsewhere |
| 01:55.55 | Thrae | fatbrain: Wipe out your SV folder (aftering making a backup) and ONLY load TinyTip. |
| 01:56.47 | fatbrain | Thrae: will do, bbiab |
| 01:58.39 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25830 10VersionChecker/ (. LICENSE.txt Libs/ VersionChecker.lua VersionChecker.toc): |
| 01:58.39 | CIA-17 | VersionChecker - initial import |
| 01:58.39 | CIA-17 | Use to check the versions of addons that others are using. Uses a FuBar interface. |
| 01:59.04 | ckknight | plztest |
| 01:59.05 | ckknight | kthx |
| 01:59.26 | ckknight | use the Dewdrop to configure what addon you're checking for |
| 01:59.31 | ckknight | and the Tablet to view the results. |
| 01:59.44 | ckknight | it's hacked together quickly, but it does the job |
| 01:59.54 | ckknight | anyone is free to take it and expand it |
| 02:01.13 | Barbanus | I'll check it out :) |
| 02:01.25 | Barbanus | good timing on the commit btw |
| 02:01.30 | ckknight | oh? |
| 02:01.32 | Barbanus | looks like the zips will be updated in like 1 min, lol |
| 02:01.35 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:01.42 | ckknight | yea, test it out, should be neat |
| 02:01.48 | ckknight | I need a new guild! |
| 02:01.49 | ckknight | mine blows |
| 02:01.54 | ckknight | not enough people in it |
| 02:02.06 | ckknight | and the ones that do I can't test my mods on |
| 02:02.11 | Barbanus | heh |
| 02:02.12 | ckknight | cause they're not up-to-date |
| 02:03.14 | Diabolic-Destiny | anyone use adobe preimere? |
| 02:03.58 | fatbrain | yes |
| 02:04.54 | Diabolic-Destiny | care to help me? |
| 02:07.33 | PogoTribal | Anyone have a Horde on Gorefiend? |
| 02:07.36 | fatbrain | erm, with adobe premiere stff? |
| 02:08.20 | Saroz | haha ckknight |
| 02:08.47 | Kaelten | anyone else having issues? |
| 02:08.59 | Diabolic-Destiny | yes? |
| 02:09.03 | ckknight | Saroz: ? |
| 02:09.03 | Diabolic-Destiny | i can pm u if need be? |
| 02:09.06 | Barbanus | Kaelten, with? |
| 02:09.13 | Saroz | ckknight, about your guild |
| 02:09.15 | Kaelten | svn or mirrors |
| 02:09.21 | Kaelten | or files |
| 02:09.43 | Barbanus | Kaelten, oh, I was slapping the zip script because I wanted the new mod that I think ckknight committed like 1 min after it ran :P |
| 02:09.56 | fatbrain | Diabolic-Destiny: no, you dont see me in #adobe-premiere do you ;)? |
| 02:09.57 | ckknight | Amadeo still has issues with externals not being fetched. |
| 02:10.00 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:10.05 | Diabolic-Destiny | we can always make a channel :p |
| 02:10.32 | Kaelten | hrm ckknight was that after he talked to me? |
| 02:10.41 | Amadeo | same problem :) |
| 02:10.47 | Amadeo | I wonder if it's WAU or what |
| 02:11.08 | Barbanus | Kaelten, svn2 was out of sync earlier |
| 02:11.30 | Kaelten | svn2 is no longer in the tortation |
| 02:11.32 | Kaelten | er rotation |
| 02:11.50 | Ordog | uhm, i get tons of errors by cartographer, including not beeing able to select a target to fly to at the windrider master |
| 02:12.32 | ckknight | Ordog: pastey |
| 02:12.33 | Kaelten | don't attempt to access the svns directly |
| 02:12.51 | Kaelten | alyways go through svn.wowace.com |
| 02:12.58 | Amadeo | Nope, WAU 1.6 doesn't get anything different than 1.7B2 |
| 02:12.59 | Ordog | oh the flight error might be due to flightmap |
| 02:13.47 | ckknight | quite possible |
| 02:14.04 | Barbanus | ckknight, VC is slick |
| 02:14.09 | RUBiK | sweet.. tooltips in cartographer scale now! |
| 02:14.19 | ckknight | RUBiK: yep |
| 02:14.22 | ckknight | Barbanus: :-) |
| 02:14.26 | Amadeo | damn, everyones Cartographer works but mine :P |
| 02:14.33 | Diabolic-Destiny | mine works fine aswell |
| 02:14.33 | Diabolic-Destiny | :P |
| 02:14.35 | ckknight | Barbanus: works on anyone who has AceComm |
| 02:14.35 | vid` | hmm |
| 02:14.36 | Ordog | http://pastey.net/5399 |
| 02:14.41 | Diabolic-Destiny | even WoWKB works great with Cartographer now |
| 02:14.44 | RUBiK | i told my lazy guild to go update cart so that i can spy on them on teh map.. :P |
| 02:15.08 | vid` | i had to manually install rollcall-1.0 |
| 02:15.15 | vid` | for some reason it didnt get installed when standalonelibs updated |
| 02:15.32 | Ordog | hm cart is not detecting my position too |
| 02:15.32 | Barbanus | Weird, when I do a version check on oRA2, it shows 2.0.$Revision: 25402 $ |
| 02:15.48 | Barbanus | Using VC that is |
| 02:16.00 | Ordog | Cartographer-r29514\Modules\Coordinates.lua:295: attempt to call method 'GetCurrentInstance' (a nil value) |
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| 02:16.23 | ckknight | Ordog: disable !BugGrabber, see if it's missing an error. |
| 02:16.38 | ckknight | same for you, Amadeo |
| 02:16.45 | Amadeo | kk |
| 02:16.51 | Barbanus | Boooooo, not enough people using Ace mods |
| 02:17.17 | ckknight | Barbanus: well, they might be, just not using AceComm |
| 02:17.27 | Ordog | hm cant even logout ^^ |
| 02:17.31 | Barbanus | Oh yea, good call |
| 02:17.35 | ckknight | Ordog: /rl |
| 02:17.35 | Ordog | just shows /played |
| 02:17.40 | Barbanus | Doesnt oRA2 use AceComm tho? |
| 02:17.46 | ckknight | don't think so |
| 02:18.05 | ckknight | also, it will check any mod, they just have to have AceComm _somewhere_ |
| 02:18.09 | Amadeo | ckknight: Just says can't find Crayon-2.0 |
| 02:18.16 | ckknight | it doesn't matter if it's a non-Ace mod, either |
| 02:18.22 | ckknight | Amadeo: install it manually for now |
| 02:18.26 | Barbanus | really... hmmm |
| 02:18.37 | ckknight | Barbanus: recent AceComm, though |
| 02:18.38 | vid` | acecomm part of ace2? |
| 02:18.42 | ckknight | like I added it a week ago |
| 02:18.44 | ckknight | yes, vid` |
| 02:18.46 | vid` | cool |
| 02:18.59 | vid` | goin to test it now |
| 02:19.13 | Barbanus | ckknight, I'm gonna make everyone use Cart anyways :P |
| 02:19.20 | vid` | yea im getting my guild to use it |
| 02:19.22 | vid` | its nice now with BC |
| 02:19.23 | ckknight | and now you can check if they're up to date. |
| 02:19.26 | vid` | everyone leveling ahead of you |
| 02:19.30 | vid` | populates your mapnotes! |
| 02:19.35 | ckknight | that's the real point of VC, to check if guildies are up to date. |
| 02:19.38 | RUBiK | ckknight: hmm.. tooltip on minimap seems to ignore scaling until i hit 'm' to view map.. and then global scaling seems to kick in.. |
| 02:19.48 | ckknight | RUBiK: meh. |
| 02:20.02 | RUBiK | hehe.. no biggie |
| 02:20.24 | vid` | hows it work? just type in name of mod? |
| 02:20.25 | Barbanus | ckknight, yea, people ask me why so and so is doing such and such .. and now I can just bitch at them to update :P |
| 02:20.33 | ckknight | :-) |
| 02:20.51 | ckknight | and Cartographer comes with AceComm, so you'll minimally be able to tell if they're up to date with Cart, no matter what. |
| 02:20.56 | Ordog | hm initial error when loggin in with buggrabber disabled is that jostle needs AceOO-2.0 |
| 02:21.04 | ckknight | i.e. if it's Unknown version, they're out of date |
| 02:21.06 | vid` | hmm says im using 25829 of carog |
| 02:21.13 | vid` | and my guildie is using 29514 |
| 02:21.16 | vid` | i just updated |
| 02:21.18 | vid` | lol |
| 02:21.23 | vid` | wowace.com/files out of sync? |
| 02:21.49 | Tain | Your mom's out of sync. |
| 02:21.54 | Barbanus | r25829 is what wowace.com/files says |
| 02:21.54 | vid` | :( |
| 02:21.58 | vid` | ah k |
| 02:21.59 | vid` | weird |
| 02:22.24 | Amadeo | ckknight: more errors, I'm just gonna wait until whatever is broken on /files or SVN is fixed :P |
| 02:22.25 | Cyrez | There's some bug in the RollCall lib. Says line 163. Something about a bad argument. |
| 02:22.38 | ckknight | give me the full error |
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| 02:23.10 | Barbanus | Nah, files is synced as far as I can tell |
| 02:23.29 | Ordog | that nil return of GetInstance by Cart pretends me from logging out, but i found out that using svn1 to dl it updates cart again, had just updated from main mirror |
| 02:23.31 | Barbanus | Oh wtf, maybe not |
| 02:23.34 | ckknight | got it, Cyrez, nvm |
| 02:23.39 | Cyrez | ^^ |
| 02:23.46 | ckknight | Ordog: /camp |
| 02:23.47 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:24.14 | Cyrez | I'm using Swatter but I'm thinking I should switch. ;) |
| 02:24.30 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25831 10RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0.lua: RollCall-1.0 - typo: playersLevels => playerLevels |
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| 02:25.13 | *** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ |
| 02:25.19 | nevcairiel | ckknight: you use some events with RollCall10_<stuff> and some with Roster10_<stuff>, any particular reason for not one format for both ? :) |
| 02:25.30 | Barbanus | ckknight, am I on drugs, or is there a reason cart is reporting r29514 |
| 02:25.41 | ckknight | Barbanus: I fixed that. |
| 02:25.44 | Barbanus | ahhh k |
| 02:25.56 | ckknight | nevcairiel: um, whoops |
| 02:26.00 | Barbanus | so, I should update. |
| 02:26.10 | Ordog | /camp gives me the same nil error |
| 02:26.42 | Ordog | initial error still by jostle missing AceOO-2.0 |
| 02:26.57 | ckknight | Ordog: just /rl or alt-f4 |
| 02:27.25 | Ordog | but how do i get rid of that error? ^^ cart isnt really usefull that way :) |
| 02:27.27 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25832 10RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0.lua: RollCall-1.0 - Roster10 -> RollCall10 |
| 02:27.33 | Saroz | lol |
| 02:27.44 | PProvost | Right now for me cart is preventing me from flying anywhere... ugh |
| 02:27.45 | ckknight | Ordog: update? I dunno |
| 02:27.53 | PProvost | Fresh update 5 mins ago |
| 02:27.55 | ckknight | PProvost: sure that's not Flightmap? |
| 02:27.58 | break19 | hey ck, you read the wowinterface recently? |
| 02:28.01 | ckknight | no |
| 02:28.05 | ckknight | I stopped caring about my users. |
| 02:28.07 | break19 | heh |
| 02:28.09 | PProvost | Cart throws the error |
| 02:28.14 | ckknight | PProvost: saying? |
| 02:28.20 | PProvost | one sec |
| 02:28.22 | nevcairiel | only cart bug i had today was with some of the herb notes sticking on the minimap when i move, like following me :D |
| 02:28.25 | ckknight | nobody tells me the errors, they just say "an error" |
| 02:28.44 | PProvost | one sec... I figured you already knew about it... |
| 02:28.49 | break19 | now now.. generalizations are bad :p |
| 02:28.58 | PProvost | You normally do.. so... |
| 02:29.03 | vid` | hmm |
| 02:29.13 | vid` | newest prat always shows the little chat icon |
| 02:29.17 | PProvost | http://ace.pastey.net/5400 |
| 02:29.19 | vid` | even if you have buttons disabled |
| 02:29.21 | PProvost | There you go ckknight |
| 02:29.24 | Cyrez | I was trying to copy and paste the error, but Swatter was being a dildo so I'm switching to BugGrabber. |
| 02:29.30 | Cyrez | ^^ |
| 02:29.36 | PProvost | Yes, shows FLightMap, but it didn't do that yesterday |
| 02:29.42 | PProvost | And I didn't update FM, I updated Cart |
| 02:29.52 | Barbanus | ckknight, Cart is throwing an error saying your mom is easy, what should I do?!? |
| 02:30.00 | ckknight | PProvost: disable !BugGrabber, do you get an error at the start? |
| 02:30.00 | PProvost | What's her address? |
| 02:30.10 | PProvost | One sec... |
| 02:30.13 | ckknight | PProvost: disable !Buggrabber and reload |
| 02:30.16 | ckknight | basically |
| 02:30.20 | RUBiK | vid`: i disabled the chatlanguage thing in prat but bubble didn't go away until a reload |
| 02:30.43 | PProvost | Looks like I'm missing a library... You added sometihng new? |
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| 02:30.52 | ckknight | yes |
| 02:30.57 | PProvost | kk |
| 02:31.00 | break19 | with the latest update from wau, my minimap notes are nutty, reverting fixes the problem... it seems to be a scaling issue, where minimap notes are shown past the boundary of the minimap, reloading the ui solves the problem, but the second I change zones.. the notes scretch out again.. the notes its showing are the ones that *would* be showing on the current zoom in of the map, just.. not where they supposed to be.. |
| 02:31.00 | PProvost | I'll chase it... |
| 02:31.05 | Amadeo | I fixed my Cartographer by deleting it and getting it again with WAU |
| 02:31.18 | vid` | rubik i got it |
| 02:31.23 | vid` | i toggled chatbuttons on and off |
| 02:31.23 | RUBiK | k |
| 02:31.24 | Amadeo | it grabbed Crayon-2.0 and whatever else after |
| 02:31.26 | vid` | and it works |
| 02:31.28 | vid` | thanks though |
| 02:31.29 | vid` | hehe |
| 02:32.42 | vid` | but yea chatlangbutton had to be disabled |
| 02:32.43 | vid` | thats what it was |
| 02:32.44 | vid` | thanks |
| 02:33.09 | ckknight | break19: so what are the steps to reproduce? |
| 02:33.42 | Barbanus | ckknight, anyway to add guild member positions to the continent / world map? |
| 02:33.45 | Amadeo | Why does Baggins not replace the default "B" keybinding for bags? |
| 02:33.51 | Barbanus | would be kinda interesting :) |
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| 02:33.54 | ckknight | Barbanus: I'm gonna add it |
| 02:33.55 | RUBiK | hmm.. FuBar_TrackerFu calls castspell() to track stuff.. |
| 02:34.00 | Barbanus | ckknight, awesome :) |
| 02:34.01 | ckknight | want to get all this fucking errors handled, though |
| 02:34.06 | ckknight | these* |
| 02:34.12 | Barbanus | ckknight, mine isnt erroring :P |
| 02:34.41 | vid` | hmm |
| 02:34.42 | vid` | interesting |
| 02:34.46 | vid` | when you use version checker |
| 02:34.51 | vid` | heyfu logs all the tells |
| 02:35.03 | vid` | f u PONG cartographer |
| 02:35.03 | vid` | etc |
| 02:35.04 | vid` | lol |
| 02:35.35 | ckknight | vid`: ... |
| 02:35.42 | vid` | i dunno man |
| 02:35.44 | ckknight | vid`: change HeyFu |
| 02:35.48 | vid` | i ran a versioncheck! :) |
| 02:35.52 | vid` | and heyfu picked it up :P |
| 02:35.56 | vid` | shrug i dont mind |
| 02:35.58 | vid` | was just interesting |
| 02:36.11 | PProvost | Hey ckknight did you update StandaloneLibraries to include RollCall? |
| 02:36.20 | Barbanus | you ran a versioncheck through a whisper? |
| 02:36.30 | Ordog | deleting cart and redownloading fixed the flightmap error |
| 02:36.38 | ckknight | yes, PProvost |
| 02:36.46 | ckknight | yea, do that |
| 02:36.49 | ckknight | just delete and redownload |
| 02:36.52 | ckknight | Barbanus: yea. |
| 02:36.55 | Barbanus | . /files just updated it looks like |
| 02:37.06 | Barbanus | so everyone who was having problems may be fixed... |
| 02:37.06 | ckknight | ping is GUILD, pong is whisper. |
| 02:37.32 | PProvost | Ahhh... but you didn't update the filelist.wau file. I'll get it. |
| 02:38.34 | ckknight | vid`: fixing HeyFu |
| 02:38.41 | vid` | cool :) |
| 02:38.51 | ckknight | basically, whispers that start with / should be ignored. |
| 02:38.52 | pastamancer | PProvost: I'll have a sample rss file for you soon |
| 02:38.58 | PProvost | sweet |
| 02:39.10 | break19 | ckknight: reproduce quite easily for me.. I change zones, poof, the notes are weird.. reloadui, fixed.. change zones.. notes "expand" |
| 02:39.23 | break19 | rinse, repeat. |
| 02:39.58 | CIA-17 | 03pprovost * r25833 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/filelist.wau: !!!StandaloneLibraries: Updates to filelist.wau for WowAceUpdater |
| 02:39.59 | ckknight | reproduced. |
| 02:40.20 | PProvost | So guys, if you update !!!StandaloneLibraries, please read the readme files and please update the filelist.wau file. Thanks. |
| 02:40.31 | break19 | ckknight: just noticed someone has alrdy added a ticket for it, ticket #139 - same problem as I described. |
| 02:40.42 | PProvost | Otherwise wowaceupdater is broken wrt. w/out external support. |
| 02:41.35 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25834 10FuBar_HeyFu/Core.lua: FuBar_HeyFu - ignore whispers that start with / |
| 02:42.16 | Parakie | ...I seem to have lost my cast bar in aguf for no particular reason |
| 02:42.39 | ckknight | break19: figured it out |
| 02:42.53 | kebinusan | hmm ckk Im getting debuginfo or something with my guild members positiions in cart |
| 02:43.26 | ckknight | debuginfo? |
| 02:43.42 | kebinusan | well Im guessing |
| 02:43.46 | WobWork | /w ckknight /are there many whispers that start with /? |
| 02:43.55 | pastamancer | I think he means line 364 in GuildPositions.lua |
| 02:44.07 | break19 | ckknight: great work :) |
| 02:44.09 | ckknight | WobWork: try typing it into the console in WoW, it won't let you. |
| 02:44.10 | kebinusan | my chatframe is displaying Postition, playername, city, and then tloc stuff |
| 02:44.20 | ckknight | you can only do it with SendChatMessage |
| 02:44.25 | ckknight | which makes it perfect for addon messages |
| 02:44.27 | Barbanus | ugh, something is causing my computer to lock up for like a split second on garbage collection |
| 02:44.33 | ckknight | kebinusan: already fixed, update. |
| 02:44.34 | WobWork | ahar |
| 02:44.55 | WobWork | well. perfect in that it's harder to forge |
| 02:44.57 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25835 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - also reconfigure yards on ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA |
| 02:45.11 | vid` | oh bt w |
| 02:45.11 | WobWork | people still get the whisper though, yeah? It's not hidden |
| 02:45.14 | ckknight | break19: please test |
| 02:45.15 | vid` | i love the new multimapnote thing in Cart |
| 02:45.17 | vid` | it rocks |
| 02:45.19 | ckknight | WobWork: AceComm hides it. |
| 02:45.24 | vid` | to show multi mapnotes in a cluster |
| 02:45.26 | ckknight | vid`: yes, it does. |
| 02:45.28 | break19 | ckknight: k will do |
| 02:45.36 | ckknight | vid`: revamped the whole system for that :-P |
| 02:45.40 | ckknight | works good, now, though |
| 02:45.52 | ckknight | I still have one big plan in my mind that deals with default note values based on database |
| 02:45.58 | ckknight | that will make things even more efficient |
| 02:46.10 | kebinusan | okie |
| 02:46.20 | WobWork | You need to make a collecters edition of Cartographer |
| 02:46.24 | WobWork | And ship it with a cloth map |
| 02:46.28 | RUBiK | ckknight: rollcall needs function to grab "when last online" data for super-easy "/seen <name>" chat command.. :P |
| 02:46.30 | WobWork | and pewter figurine of yourself |
| 02:46.53 | ckknight | RUBiK: not sure how to access that, but I will. |
| 02:46.54 | break19 | hey ck, you familiar with the addon guildmap? it does it's guild positioning broadcasts via the guild addon channel iirc |
| 02:46.57 | ckknight | lemme look into it |
| 02:47.13 | ckknight | break19: stole the idea from it, made it efficient. Guildmap's implementation was downright bad. |
| 02:47.20 | break19 | heh |
| 02:47.44 | break19 | downloading latest cart rev now, via java aceupdater |
| 02:47.58 | RUBiK | ckknight: yearsOffline, monthsOffline, daysOffline, hoursOffline = GetGuildRosterLastOnline(i); -- i think? |
| 02:48.00 | break19 | 25829, right? |
| 02:48.33 | ckknight | neat. |
| 02:48.35 | WobWork | yearsOffline, monthsOffline, daysOffline, hoursOffline = GetGuildRosterLastOnline(index);. |
| 02:48.42 | ckknight | thank you. |
| 02:48.48 | RUBiK | np |
| 02:48.59 | ckknight | basically gonna take the data and turn it into seconds |
| 02:49.04 | ckknight | which can be easily fed into Abacus. |
| 02:49.12 | RUBiK | would be neatest, yup |
| 02:50.03 | break19 | PProvost: i'm assumng that if wau is broken wrt no-ext then java one would be too? |
| 02:50.29 | WobWork | I wonder what his power level was like =\ |
| 02:51.18 | PProvost | I don't know how that one works. |
| 02:51.24 | PProvost | I don't even know if it does what we do. |
| 02:51.28 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r25836 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: |
| 02:51.28 | CIA-17 | ClosetGnome: ClosetGnome:WearSet now takes varargs, so you can do ClosetGnome:WearSet("DPS", "PvP") and it will equip the items from DPS and PvP, with PvP items getting priority. Works with unlimited set names. |
| 02:51.28 | CIA-17 | Thanks to karlthepagan for the suggestion and original idea. |
| 02:51.33 | PProvost | We auto unpack !!!SAL, do they? |
| 02:52.20 | break19 | ckknight: fixed, can no longer reproduce |
| 02:52.32 | WobWork | oh man =*( |
| 02:52.36 | WobWork | That's so sad |
| 02:52.44 | Diabolic-Destiny | hey can i offer some improvement tweaks to cartographer? |
| 02:52.48 | break19 | PProvost: i dont think so. |
| 02:53.05 | ckknight | Diabolic-Destiny: how do you mean? |
| 02:53.11 | ckknight | WobWork: ? |
| 02:53.21 | WobWork | ckknight: fixed, can no longer reproduce |
| 02:53.28 | Diabolic-Destiny | TBH the only think i dont like about cartographer is the way you select the instance/map zone etc |
| 02:53.29 | WobWork | Sounds like you went to the vet =) |
| 02:53.38 | Diabolic-Destiny | u need to go through too much menus |
| 02:53.43 | break19 | lol |
| 02:53.45 | PProvost | break19, then it is probably fine |
| 02:53.53 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r25837 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Reclaim temporary sets when we're done with them. |
| 02:53.54 | PProvost | That is where the error is... in the !!!SAL project./ |
| 02:54.16 | PProvost | But I updated !!!SAL so it will get better on the next files cycle update |
| 02:54.24 | break19 | PProvost: k, been thinkin about switchin back to s-a-l libs.. |
| 02:54.33 | break19 | my load time is nuckin futs! |
| 02:54.43 | Diabolic-Destiny | if possible can we get the zone/instance selection like this > http://uifiles.worldofwar.net/upload/pics/MetaMap4_20061023.jpg |
| 02:54.49 | Diabolic-Destiny | similar to the defualt WoW map |
| 02:54.50 | break19 | <- has become a serious ACE addict lol |
| 02:55.08 | Tain | Night of the Living Ace-Heads |
| 02:55.08 | Diabolic-Destiny | ill leave it up to you, i just think its easier that way |
| 02:55.12 | PProvost | I haven't noticed much of a difference since switching to SAL, and it certainly can be more fragile, so I think I will go back once sylvanaar and I are done with this feature in WAU. |
| 02:55.24 | Diabolic-Destiny | Whats SAL? |
| 02:55.35 | PProvost | Standalone Libraries... sorry. |
| 02:55.37 | WobWork | StandAloneLibraries |
| 02:55.41 | PProvost | I just hate typing it. |
| 02:55.49 | Diabolic-Destiny | o its ok jus never knew |
| 02:55.51 | WobWork | You get all tangled up in the Libraries bit |
| 02:56.01 | Tain | Sal is this guy you call up when you need to break someone's kneecaps. |
| 02:56.07 | break19 | PProvost: logging in, or reloading my ui takes about 70s |
| 02:56.12 | Diabolic-Destiny | Tain: no thats Sol |
| 02:56.14 | Diabolic-Destiny | :P |
| 02:56.22 | WobWork | Unless you're british |
| 02:56.25 | WobWork | Then it's Sal |
| 02:56.32 | WobWork | Less jews over there =) |
| 02:56.34 | PProvost | Similar # here. I haven't timed the diff for me, but using SAL doesn't seem that much better to me. |
| 02:56.38 | break19 | Diabolic-Destiny: Sol is what happens when you cant get any breaks. |
| 02:56.47 | WobWork | >< |
| 02:57.03 | break19 | as in Shit Outta Luck :p |
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| 03:03.41 | Xuerian | Alright, any information on the new tooltip stuff? |
| 03:08.21 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r25838 10AnchorsAway/AnchorsAway.toc: AnchorsAway: Avast ye outdated TOC's! We be updating ye' sorry bums! |
| 03:09.06 | RUBiK | is there a built-in blizzard function that will select /ra, /p or /s if in raid/party/not-in-group to say something? (i.e. announce when i pull %t as a tank) |
| 03:10.11 | ckknight | not to my knowledge |
| 03:10.38 | break19 | RUBiK: shouldnt be too difficult to use the functions to check in order: raid, party, solo tho |
| 03:10.49 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25839 10RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0.lua: RollCall-1.0 - added :GetSecondsOffline(["name"]), also added a /seen <player> slash command. |
| 03:10.56 | RUBiK | k.. it's ok.. will write a quick function to check each condition and figure out which param to feed to SendChatMessage() |
| 03:11.02 | RUBiK | yup, exactly, break19 |
| 03:11.47 | RUBiK | whoa.. nice rollcall.. <3 ckknight |
| 03:11.49 | break19 | I've been reading up on the functions, etc.. havent actually decided to code anything.. i cant think of anything I'd want that someone else hasnt already written :p |
| 03:12.04 | WobWork | go for that autodisenchant mod |
| 03:12.20 | WobWork | where it pops up a list of disenchantable items in your inventory when you hit the disenchant button |
| 03:12.32 | WobWork | and gives dialogbox blocks for items of certain quality etc |
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| 03:12.38 | break19 | ugh |
| 03:12.58 | break19 | I'm afraid that is beyond the scope of this trucker. :p |
| 03:13.19 | break19 | I probably *could* do it, if I had enough time tho.. but I'd rather play :) |
| 03:13.41 | break19 | plus, I'd have to teach myself lua first.. I've only slightly dabbled in it, here and there |
| 03:14.31 | Xuerian | If you start coding, you will stop playing. |
| 03:14.42 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25840 10Cartographer/ (Modules/InstanceMaps.lua Scripts/pack.lua): Cartographer: added Auchenai Crypts map |
| 03:14.48 | break19 | kinda like the difference in writing "hello world" in a bash script, or making an actually useful shell script that does stuff :p |
| 03:14.58 | thalie | just like xuerian |
| 03:15.02 | thalie | he used to be an uber wow player |
| 03:15.08 | thalie | and now all he does is fix bugs in xloot all day |
| 03:15.09 | WobWork | Then he turned to the dark side |
| 03:15.10 | thalie | :) |
| 03:15.12 | Xuerian | I'll run with that. :P |
| 03:15.15 | thalie | bahha |
| 03:15.18 | thalie | <3 <3 |
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| 03:15.21 | Xuerian | <3 |
| 03:15.46 | break19 | oh, that reminds me.. I need to see if the instance map problem I'd had over the past couple of days is still there, and if so, try to debug.. I can debug til the cows come home, but starting from scratch is another matter entirely :p |
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| 03:20.09 | Barbanus | Anyone else getting lockups that seem to be related to GC? |
| 03:20.40 | Tain | The GameCube is causing lockups? |
| 03:20.51 | Barbanus | garbage collection :P |
| 03:20.53 | Xuerian | I miss my GameCube... |
| 03:21.01 | Xuerian | It didn't have tainting issues :( |
| 03:21.02 | Amadeo | Play with your Wii |
| 03:21.03 | Amadeo | ;) |
| 03:21.17 | Xuerian | There is no proper way to reply to that |
| 03:22.28 | pastamancer | PProvost: http://grid.13th-floor.org/test/latest.xml |
| 03:23.03 | break19 | my wii is bigger than yours |
| 03:23.17 | break19 | i like my wife touch my wii, and she broke it |
| 03:23.21 | Barbanus | lol <description>lorem ipsum</description> |
| 03:23.21 | break19 | *let |
| 03:23.55 | Tain | My Wii broke a big screen TV. |
| 03:24.26 | Barbanus | Tain, you mean you forgot to put the safety cord around your wrist, and you threw it at the TV? |
| 03:25.48 | Tain | Yeah I took off the safety, threw my hips and BAM |
| 03:26.05 | WobWork | Just remember |
| 03:26.09 | WobWork | If it's not on, it's not on |
| 03:26.14 | Barbanus | lol |
| 03:26.33 | Thrae | I think I might just get rid of my Cable TV entirely...just need to figure out how to setup a RSS Bittorrent grabber. |
| 03:27.10 | break19 | BRD, Stockades, Gnomeregan, Maraudon, RFD, SFK, deadmines, ST - instances where the notes dont scale properly still.. I'll fiddle with em. |
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| 03:27.26 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25841 10Cartographer/ (Modules/InstanceMaps.lua Scripts/pack.lua): Cartographer: added Sethekk Halls map |
| 03:29.01 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r25842 10MrPlow/ (MrPlow.lua MrPlow.toc): |
| 03:29.01 | CIA-17 | MrPlow: |
| 03:29.01 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:29.01 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:29.06 | Barbanus | Thrae, tvrss.net :P |
| 03:29.19 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: Great work on these maps, man, keep it up! |
| 03:29.32 | Funkeh` | =) |
| 03:29.42 | Barbanus | Thrae, and Azureus :) |
| 03:30.10 | WobWork | utorrent offers a webinterface now, doesn't it? |
| 03:30.18 | WobWork | and has anyone tried bittyrant? |
| 03:30.37 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r25843 10Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/ServerNames.lua): Prat: Sercername fixes |
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| 03:30.45 | Thrae | I just never setup RSS because I was always so damn behind on my burning to DVD |
| 03:31.04 | break19 | wow, ya fixed the sercers! :p |
| 03:31.06 | Barbanus | haha, yea, I need to burn more to dvd |
| 03:31.11 | Tain | I'm trying out BitTyrant now. Normally use uTorrent. |
| 03:31.19 | Barbanus | I got like 100gb to burn |
| 03:31.21 | Thrae | I'm currently in the hole for ~700GB of stuff I need to burn off |
| 03:31.30 | Thrae | Mostly Anime |
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| 03:32.22 | Amadeo | Tain: How is it? |
| 03:32.27 | WobWork | Tain: any noticeable improvment? |
| 03:32.40 | Amadeo | Oh, Java :( |
| 03:33.10 | Tain | I haven't seen much. Really in theory the improvement is quicker downloads, but if you're going to be a good citizen and seed that stays about the same. |
| 03:33.22 | Thrae | What, BitTyrant? |
| 03:33.59 | Tain | Yeah. |
| 03:34.28 | Thrae | BitTyrant just maximizes your download potentional by maximizing your upload per second potentional. It doesn't do anything against the main "BitTorrent Creed". |
| 03:35.15 | Ordog | cartographer/modules/notes.lua:1883 bad argument #1 to 'format' expected number got nil |
| 03:35.24 | Ordog | when hovering a mapnote |
| 03:35.28 | Thrae | In theory, if everyone used BitTyrant, eventually the guys with a small download cap (for uploads) would get downloads from -someone-. BitTyrant just makes everything less arbitrary. |
| 03:35.35 | Ordog | that contains only one note |
| 03:35.53 | Amadeo | We all need to find something decent, since uTorrent will probably die :P |
| 03:36.08 | Thrae | I never had a problem with Azureus, except it's a damn memory hog. |
| 03:36.25 | WobWork | why will utorrent die? |
| 03:36.35 | Xuerian | It's been <Shudders> bought. |
| 03:36.40 | Tain | Over the life of a torrent BitTyrant won't have any impact. But in the short term it gives the people who have a bigger pipe perference, and people with a slower pipe take even longer. |
| 03:37.09 | WobWork | !! |
| 03:37.47 | WobWork | nothing on the front page about that =( |
| 03:38.24 | Tain | BitTorrent company bought uTorrent about oh.. a month ago |
| 03:38.35 | Barbanus | Thrae, thats java for you. |
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| 03:39.05 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25844 10Cartographer/ (Modules/InstanceMaps.lua Scripts/pack.lua): Cartographer: added Shadow Labyrinth map(note this is my guess of what it looks like, I have not been inside, I need verification) |
| 03:39.15 | Thrae | I used to have some Java tweaks, but I lost 'em a long time ago. I need to tweak Azureus again... |
| 03:39.21 | Funkeh` | Ordog: update, fixed already |
| 03:39.22 | Amadeo | What about BitComet? I used that for a while in the past |
| 03:39.38 | Koaschten | azureus |
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| 03:39.57 | Thrae | Amadeo: BitComet can give bad reports to trackers, allowing you to download faster, but giving you the risk of being banned |
| 03:40.05 | Amadeo | That's no good |
| 03:40.24 | Amadeo | is it an option you can turn off? |
| 03:40.39 | Thrae | Amadeo: Dunno. I think the options were all in BitTorrent speak. |
| 03:40.50 | Thrae | Amadeo: Like all the BitTorrent downloaders. |
| 03:41.07 | Barbanus | Yea, you can turn it off .. the option is called "uninstall" |
| 03:41.09 | Tain | BitComent today is ok, it had a bad reputation for a little while and is still banned from some private trackers. |
| 03:41.24 | Amadeo | hm |
| 03:41.40 | WobWork | utorrent lite is in the making? |
| 03:41.52 | Tain | But private trackers are full of arrogant pricks who like being part of a private tracker more than actually downloading/sharing. |
| 03:42.11 | WobWork | mm elitest =) |
| 03:42.20 | Barbanus | grrrrrr, what the fuck keeps freezing my wow every min or two ... |
| 03:42.22 | vhaarr | uTorrent 1.6 was released before the buy, so it's still usable. |
| 03:42.47 | Amadeo | That's what I'm using now |
| 03:43.36 | Barbanus | hmmm its not garbage collection, cause it happend right after I forced a garbage collection... |
| 03:44.03 | Amadeo | I just wish Azureus weren't Java, because I like it otherwise :) |
| 03:44.08 | Thrae | I tried to force a garbage collection once, in a commericial district. The Mob put a contract out on me. |
| 03:44.23 | Tain | I don't usually worry about the fastest downloads though, if it were something I really wanted that badly I would probably not be getting it from BT. |
| 03:44.38 | Thrae | Tain: Where else? |
| 03:44.50 | Barbanus | I use BT cause I can set it up to download when I sleep |
| 03:44.57 | Barbanus | Or even playing wow, or whateevr |
| 03:45.04 | Barbanus | I've got it set to 20k up/down |
| 03:45.07 | Amadeo | I don't like the direction Azureus 3.0 is taking, either |
| 03:45.15 | Barbanus | RSS, and I just ignore it |
| 03:45.39 | Thrae | Getting the entire Season 1 of 24, for example, is a huge PITA on anything else then BT |
| 03:45.48 | Amadeo | Unless they remove the "Zudeo" part and release it without it |
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| 03:54.52 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25845 10Cartographer/ (Modules/InstanceMaps.lua Scripts/pack.lua): Cartographer: added sexy Karazhan map |
| 03:55.01 | Funkeh` | wtb more cookies |
| 03:56.10 | Funkeh` | :/ |
| 03:56.26 | OvrLrd-Q | I can make gingerbread cookies, just provide the holiday spices |
| 03:57.02 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:58.48 | WobWork | hm |
| 03:58.49 | WobWork | cookies |
| 03:59.08 | WobWork | It's National Drought Day at our supermarket chain |
| 03:59.22 | WobWork | So all profits for the day across the country will go to the drought stricken farmers |
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| 04:00.47 | OvrLrd-Q | O_o |
| 04:06.17 | Ordog | cartographer fishing at line 669: currentyardwidth beeing nil |
| 04:06.34 | Ordog | hovering the pole |
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| 04:07.44 | thalie | hey kael |
| 04:07.55 | Kaelten | hello |
| 04:08.18 | thalie | lol didn't want anything just saying hi ;) |
| 04:10.13 | Kaelten | thats what they all say! |
| 04:10.45 | _neuron_ | Kaelten on instinct started looking at squid logs etc to figure out what broke |
| 04:11.55 | thalie | awww you know we love you kael :) |
| 04:12.11 | Prophyy | anyone know how to make baggins display the amt of gold you have.. |
| 04:14.06 | Antiarc | Is there a library for splitting chat messages while respecting link boundaries? |
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| 04:15.53 | fatbrain | Thrae: gonna do a more thorough check of that tinytip malfunction I had now |
| 04:15.56 | fatbrain | fyi. |
| 04:16.00 | mjc | ~seen ckknight |
| 04:16.22 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@198.199.136.119> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 6m 11s ago, saying: 'not to my knowledge'. |
| 04:16.32 | vhaarr | Antiarc: Yeah, just make sure you're not splitting inside a link ... |.-|r is inside a link. |
| 04:20.23 | Barbanus | Bah, I hate whatever the hell mod keeps locking up my wow |
| 04:21.04 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25846 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: InstanceNotes: added various entrance notes |
| 04:21.19 | mjc | who does the cartographer sharing stuff |
| 04:22.07 | Barbanus | ckknight does |
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| 04:40.51 | fatbrain | Silviu-: you still here? |
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| 04:45.19 | Silviu- | Yes |
| 04:45.37 | Silviu- | fatbrain yes :) |
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| 04:48.49 | Nomad_Wanderer | hmm. pink cartographer expert |
| 04:48.56 | Nomad_Wanderer | ~ping eve |
| 04:48.58 | purl | pong eve |
| 04:48.58 | Nomad_Wanderer | even |
| 04:49.25 | Nomad_Wanderer | I think there is a conflict between cartographer and simpleminimap |
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| 04:50.17 | Fisker- | For some reason my cartographer won't load :o |
| 04:50.28 | Fisker- | oh |
| 04:50.30 | Fisker- | new libraries |
| 04:50.40 | Ordog | yup get tha roll stuff |
| 04:51.01 | Ordog | gn8 now |
| 04:51.01 | Fisker- | any other libraries than that? |
| 04:51.05 | Ordog | dont think so |
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| 04:56.58 | tjs | wow |
| 04:57.53 | tjs | I just found this ace library, I hang out on freenode for work all the time, thought Id /join #wowace on the off chance one or two people might be here |
| 04:58.08 | tjs | quite the community :) |
| 04:58.58 | Fisker- | btw Funkeh` |
| 04:59.19 | Fisker- | I can tell you that all the auchindoun maps are correct |
| 04:59.52 | Funkeh` | good good |
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| 05:00.48 | tjs | just thinking about doing a bit of addon hacking, I downloaded the lua interp the other day and had a bit of a play, started hacking on a basic Interfaces/Adapters library.. its an interesting language, the 'one table type' thing weirds me out, that has to be sub-optimal |
| 05:01.16 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25847 10Cartographer/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Cartographer: added Magtheridon's Lair map |
| 05:01.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Gah, grinding enchanting up to 300+ from nothing is a PITA. |
| 05:01.59 | tjs | after a tiny bit of advice actually, I'm a druid, looking at hiding the shapeshift bar from the default UI |
| 05:02.20 | Thrae | tjs: Look at Bartender3. I love it on my Druid. |
| 05:02.20 | tjs | any tips on where to look for that sort of thing? |
| 05:02.36 | tjs | ah cool, ty :) |
| 05:02.55 | Thrae | tjs: It'll also change your bar if you stealth or shift into Moonkin / Tree of Life. |
| 05:03.03 | tjs | the other question I have relates to the itunes functions, just looked them up, why on earth are they protected? |
| 05:03.05 | RaydenUni | does Shadow Power really give +15% chance to crit on the spells? |
| 05:03.19 | tjs | Thrae: oh awesome :) |
| 05:03.33 | Thrae | tjs: Because it only works on Macs, and even then it's proprietary. |
| 05:04.05 | WobWork | tjs: yeah. I remember when there were about 5 of us on =P |
| 05:04.06 | break19 | tjs: because it accesses a different program, which, in theory could be used to control a program with the executable name of itunes and therefore be a bot program |
| 05:04.11 | tjs | I'm on a macbook pro, I just wanted to write some slash commands for playing music |
| 05:04.19 | RaydenUni | what mod hides bars based on what form you are in? |
| 05:04.28 | RaydenUni | might be useful for shadow form |
| 05:04.57 | WobWork | bt3 does |
| 05:05.36 | Thrae | tjs: There are buttons you click, right? You can now use /click ButtonFrameName to register a click with that button, but it still must be keybound. |
| 05:06.10 | tjs | break19: seriously, that thinking from blizzard drives me crazy, its so stupid, if I was planning on starting up a farming business in some 3rd world country Id invest the time writing my bot software from the host os of a virtualisation system like XEN (not that it can run win) or VMware |
| 05:06.12 | Thrae | RaydenUni: Hiding more then one bar is impossible with 2.0. BT3 allows you to switch pages with the default action bars. |
| 05:06.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Patch day btw: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/69843152.htm |
| 05:06.46 | WobWork | feh |
| 05:06.51 | Thrae | RaydenUni: In combat, you can only switch around up to 12 buttons, the default. |
| 05:06.53 | WobWork | Actually, I'd just hire people to play |
| 05:06.59 | WobWork | the CGFs have it right |
| 05:07.26 | Thrae | WobWork: Uhhh...what? |
| 05:07.26 | break19 | tjs: true, however, not all bots are run by a high tech farming business.. |
| 05:08.12 | break19 | tjs: simple fact is, if people hadn't abused the power that bliz had given them by running bots and bot-like addons, they wouldnt have needed to lock it down like they did |
| 05:08.19 | tjs | hmm, I guess so, I've not really looked into farmers much, seems a bit pointless to me, there are a million smarter ways to make $$ legally |
| 05:09.58 | CIA-17 | 03galeni * r25848 10HotMan/HotMan.lua: HotMan: Bar fade time and showing full spell name now options |
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| 05:11.25 | tjs | btw, I'm impressed with your project, I had kinda expected most addons were hacked up in teens bedrooms in notepad, you guys have trac/svn/documentation etc.. |
| 05:12.38 | Thrae | Most addons ARE hacked up in a teen's bedroom in Wordpad. Wowace's addons represent a small fraction. |
| 05:12.44 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r25849 10ClosetGnome/ (ClosetGnome.lua locales/enUS.lua): |
| 05:12.44 | CIA-17 | ClosetGnome: Can now update a set by holding down Shift while clicking it in the |
| 05:12.44 | CIA-17 | Wear menu, or while executing /closetgnome wear <set>. The icon will not be set |
| 05:12.44 | CIA-17 | for you, so if you update a set that has an icon, make sure to set it again |
| 05:12.44 | CIA-17 | before clicking Add. |
| 05:13.58 | tjs | does bliz gimp lua much or is it pretty similar to stock lua? |
| 05:14.07 | tjs | can you use continuations etc? |
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| 05:17.18 | vhaarr | Feel free to try, and you'll see. |
| 05:18.18 | tjs | aye, going to grab ace2 and have a go at writing an addon this weekend |
| 05:18.20 | vhaarr | And some addons on the wowace site are crap as well, just like addons on other sites. |
| 05:18.32 | vhaarr | Don't be fooled by the fact that they're in the SVN. *Anyone* can get access. |
| 05:18.44 | tjs | :) |
| 05:19.41 | Kaelten | heh I get two or three requests a day for svn access |
| 05:21.30 | vhaarr | Kaelten: The need for a pre-commit areyouonirc script gets bigger every day. |
| 05:22.15 | Thorgard | Make something really anal, like a bot to check if the author's on irc before allowing a commit. ;P |
| 05:22.36 | vhaarr | Erm, yeah, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. |
| 05:22.43 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:22.45 | Kaelten | we could do it. |
| 05:23.09 | vhaarr | Just refer people to me if they don't like it, I'm good at not caring. |
| 05:23.20 | Kaelten | I'll talk to Karn, he's been playing with openbot |
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| 05:23.26 | vhaarr | sweet |
| 05:23.40 | vhaarr | Remember mappings and whitelisting of trusted devs. |
| 05:23.43 | Kaelten | first step is to get the bot working. |
| 05:23.49 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 05:24.13 | vhaarr | My first step is getting out of this chair, and the last step is getting into bed, and hopefully they'll both happen within the next 5 minutes. |
| 05:24.26 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:24.27 | vhaarr | but one can only hope. |
| 05:24.33 | Funkeh` | 'Just refer people to me if they don't like it, I'm good at not caring.' |
| 05:24.36 | Funkeh` | rofl.. |
| 05:24.42 | Kaelten | Funkeh`: he's not kidding |
| 05:24.43 | vhaarr | :P |
| 05:24.46 | Funkeh` | i know |
| 05:24.50 | Funkeh` | thats what makes it funny |
| 05:25.14 | Funkeh` | <3 vhaarr |
| 05:25.20 | Funkeh` | anyway |
| 05:25.21 | Funkeh` | nn folks |
| 05:25.23 | vhaarr | nn |
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| 05:37.16 | Feldia | anyone notice the emotes menu isn't being hidden with the latest prat? |
| 05:38.25 | Thrae | Feldia: Unless Prat changed since 5pm EST Monday, no. |
| 05:38.42 | Feldia | it just randomly appeared on my screen |
| 05:38.47 | Feldia | and it seems to move based on the active chat window |
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| 05:45.58 | fatbrain | Thrae: found the problem with tinytip not anchoring, Assister addon was causing the problem. |
| 05:46.37 | break19 | Feldia: I noticed that as well |
| 05:47.05 | break19 | and Thrae i got an update to prat when I ran wau earlier today |
| 05:47.13 | break19 | and thats when it started |
| 05:51.23 | pastamancer | PProvost: ping |
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| 05:54.34 | PProvost | ack |
| 05:55.22 | Fisker- | syn |
| 05:55.23 | Kaelten | pong! |
| 05:55.29 | pastamancer | take a look at http://grid.13th-floor.org/test/Cartographer-r25847.zip and let me know if you have any ideas RE naming/placement of the changelogs |
| 05:55.53 | PProvost | Ummm... I'm in an instance right now... can you PM me that link and I'll check it when I get out? |
| 05:56.02 | pastamancer | ok |
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| 06:02.44 | tjs | anyone know where to get the bartender2 circled extension? |
| 06:02.53 | CIA-17 | 03galeni * r25850 10HotMan/HotMan.lua: HotMan: Fixes for many druid spells. |
| 06:03.02 | tjs | its listed on the wiki but with no info about finding it |
| 06:03.45 | tjs | also there is bartender3 |
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| 06:04.02 | tjs | is it useable? |
| 06:04.11 | fatbrain | tjs: www.wowace.com |
| 06:04.23 | fatbrain | tjs: cyCircled |
| 06:04.35 | fatbrain | (if that was what you meant) |
| 06:05.56 | tjs | ty |
| 06:06.04 | fatbrain | tjs: I would recomend Bongos as the action-bar replacement tho. |
| 06:06.55 | tjs | ok |
| 06:07.09 | tjs | is that an ace thing? |
| 06:07.27 | Kaelten | I use Bartender3 myself |
| 06:08.01 | tjs | I just saw the circle shaped buttons on the bartender2 wiki page, they looked kinda nice |
| 06:08.58 | CIA-17 | 03Skycatcher * r25851 10Visor2/Visor2.toc: Visor2: - Updated ToC number and to force new externals. |
| 06:09.01 | fatbrain | tjs: No, it's not an ace thing. |
| 06:09.17 | tjs | I'll check it out |
| 06:09.20 | fatbrain | tjs: cyCircled works with Bongos as well. So you'll get those circled buttons ;) |
| 06:09.43 | tjs | oh cool |
| 06:10.38 | fatbrain | hrm, what's visor2... |
| 06:11.08 | art3mis | a frame mover |
| 06:11.18 | fatbrain | ah, ok |
| 06:11.19 | art3mis | thats reallypowerful and too good |
| 06:11.31 | Kaelten | why did I get tickled? |
| 06:11.33 | Kaelten | thats a new one |
| 06:11.34 | art3mis | why not |
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| 06:11.48 | art3mis | everyone needs to be tickled |
| 06:12.54 | art3mis | maybe if yer in a good mood youll make onebag3 |
| 06:13.17 | art3mis | without custom sorting and configurable windows so that my quest bag will stop moving around ;P |
| 06:13.23 | art3mis | err with not without |
| 06:14.32 | fatbrain | erm, what's a must-have priest addon?! |
| 06:15.36 | art3mis | clique |
| 06:15.43 | art3mis | and if yer a healer grid |
| 06:16.00 | *** part/#wowace tjs (n=tjs@202.61.135.162) |
| 06:16.04 | art3mis | i dont relaly like grid though |
| 06:16.12 | art3mis | and since its mainly 5man parties these days |
| 06:16.17 | art3mis | smartbuff/debuff |
| 06:16.26 | art3mis | will suffice in grids place ;P |
| 06:16.48 | ZealotOnAStick | So, anyone tracking the Bloof Elf release leveling stuff? |
| 06:17.09 | ZealotOnAStick | We've got a guy in our guild who -might- be the first release BE Paladin to 60 in america, but we're unsure. |
| 06:18.06 | fatbrain | ah, grid was what I was missing, erm, I'm occasionally forced to heal :( |
| 06:19.07 | fatbrain | hrm, wasn't able to find clique |
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| 06:20.02 | art3mis | should be o there although im not all that sure if its ace or not |
| 06:23.09 | fatbrain | googled it, tahnks |
| 06:23.14 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r25852 10ItemSync/locals/kr.lua: |
| 06:23.14 | CIA-17 | ItemSync: |
| 06:23.14 | CIA-17 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 06:26.55 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r25853 10Decursive/ (Dcr_opt.lua localization.kr.lua): |
| 06:26.55 | CIA-17 | Decursive: |
| 06:26.55 | CIA-17 | - Fixed locale for some opt |
| 06:26.55 | CIA-17 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 06:27.29 | Fisker- | We are currently working on a solution to assist customers who upgraded their World of Warcraft account with the standard edition of Burning Crusade and have since purchased or received a Collector’s Edition and would like to “re-upgrade†their account. |
| 06:27.42 | Fisker- | well thanks for telling us otherwise |
| 06:28.14 | Fisker- | fucking retards :/ |
| 06:28.23 | Fisker- | gave my CE key away because i couldn't use it anyways |
| 06:32.14 | WobWork | >< |
| 06:33.00 | art3mis | hehe updat the account to ce and mail them a pet ;P |
| 06:33.03 | art3mis | how hard is that |
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| 06:40.46 | Fisker- | Well if the rumors are correct i might still get the pet |
| 06:40.50 | Fisker- | Cause i'm EU |
| 06:41.05 | Fisker- | And the rumors are that the keys printed are all standard editions |
| 06:41.31 | Fisker- | So if i provide the stuff to activate my CE they might not notice the difference between standard/ce edition :D |
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| 06:53.39 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r25854 10Baggins/libs/Sieve-0.1/Sieve-0.1.lua: |
| 06:53.39 | CIA-17 | Baggins: Sieve-0.1: |
| 06:53.39 | CIA-17 | - ItemID rule text entry now supports dragged in items. |
| 06:53.53 | Fisker- | Anyone know if anyone has provided some raidcalender like icons for Tempest Keep, Steamvault, kharazan and so |
| 06:53.53 | Fisker- | ? |
| 06:53.55 | Fisker- | on? |
| 06:53.56 | Fisker- | :P |
| 07:05.32 | Bruners | ZealotOnAStick: hear rumours that there was a dranei on lvl 64 |
| 07:05.48 | Bruners | on magtherion or something |
| 07:06.01 | [Ammo] | wouldn't be surprised |
| 07:06.11 | [Ammo] | 2 days ago there was a 57 draenei on Kazzak |
| 07:06.11 | Xuerian | not in the least. |
| 07:06.19 | [Ammo] | EU that is |
| 07:07.07 | Silviu- | On my server was an 63 bloodelf pala |
| 07:07.07 | Silviu- | :/ |
| 07:07.10 | Bruners | funny how they manage to outlevel me :) |
| 07:07.23 | Silviu- | this night |
| 07:07.34 | Silviu- | And he as with a dudu healing him all time |
| 07:07.37 | Silviu- | But not in grp |
| 07:07.38 | Silviu- | :) |
| 07:07.39 | Silviu- | 60 |
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| 07:10.46 | Xuerian | Must be one of the most fickle events in the whole damn game. |
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| 07:17.31 | ckknight | hey all |
| 07:17.31 | ZealotOnAStick | Silviu: US or Europe? What server? |
| 07:17.37 | Xuerian | oy. |
| 07:17.50 | ZealotOnAStick | ello ck |
| 07:17.50 | Silviu- | Eu, Gorgonnash |
| 07:19.02 | Silviu- | good night all :) |
| 07:19.13 | Xuerian | 'night |
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| 07:19.46 | Tovort | on my server I'd guess the highest BE is in the mid-40s |
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| 07:20.36 | Tovort | and 90% of the 70s and BE Palys belong to two guilds |
| 07:20.50 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips | New WowAceUpdater beta (1.7b) | WHANGDEPOOTENAWAH, n. In the Ojibwa tongue, disaster; an unexpected affliction that strikes hard. |
| 07:21.01 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r25855 10XLoot/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:21.01 | CIA-17 | XLoot: Removed Gratuity. Wrote own scanning code. Switched from item events |
| 07:21.01 | CIA-17 | inside Monitor to initial version of SEE-Loot, which may or may not capture |
| 07:21.01 | CIA-17 | money messages, since CHAT_MSG_MONEY won't fire for me. Fixed up width |
| 07:21.02 | CIA-17 | calculations on rows. |
| 07:22.49 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r25856 10XLootGroup/XLootGroup.lua: XLootGroup: Removed Gratuity. Changed to new Bind On detection method. |
| 07:23.45 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r25857 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.lua: XLootMonitor: Removed old item event code. Modified test handlers to work with SEE-Loot. |
| 07:25.05 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: ping pong |
| 07:25.23 | nevcairiel | wonder if i reach him this tiem :D |
| 07:25.27 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 07:25.34 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 07:25.40 | nevcairiel | i found a bug in OneStorage |
| 07:25.44 | nevcairiel | and the reason for the bug |
| 07:25.46 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 07:26.05 | nevcairiel | It doesnt save any items, where the last id part is negative |
| 07:26.27 | Kaelten | hrm ya derkyle told me about that I forgot to update the regex |
| 07:26.59 | nevcairiel | its kinda weird having some blank spots in my OneView frame :D |
| 07:28.27 | Tovort | hmm might there be a way too teach bartender Clearcasts? |
| 07:28.27 | CIA-17 | 03kaelten * r25858 10OneStorage/OneStorage-2.0/OneStorage-2.0.lua: OneStorage - Fixed regexes to accept negative numbers as the last part in the items |
| 07:28.36 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: update a test for me plz? |
| 07:28.52 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 07:29.33 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 07:29.39 | nevcairiel | nop :P |
| 07:29.47 | nevcairiel | now itsn an empty frame, no captures at all |
| 07:30.07 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 07:30.17 | nevcairiel | try [%d-]+ |
| 07:30.43 | Kaelten | [-0-9]+ should work I'd think |
| 07:30.48 | ckknight | anyone want to help me test a new feature with Cartographer-GuildPositions? |
| 07:30.57 | krka | or -?[0-9]+ |
| 07:31.11 | nevcairiel | [%d-]+ works fine tho |
| 07:31.13 | nevcairiel | just tested it |
| 07:31.38 | Kaelten | doh I see why mine didn't work |
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| 07:32.11 | Kaelten | had %[-0-9]+ |
| 07:32.32 | CIA-17 | 03kaelten * r25859 10OneStorage/OneStorage-2.0/OneStorage-2.0.lua: OneStorage - typo |
| 07:32.33 | nevcairiel | heh, i mustve striped that char while pasting my part :D |
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| 07:32.40 | Kaelten | hehe yep |
| 07:33.12 | nevcairiel | works :) |
| 07:33.29 | ckknight | %-?[0-9]+ |
| 07:34.12 | Kaelten | [-0-9]+ should work as well |
| 07:34.18 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley * r25860 10Baggins/ (Baggins.lua libs/Sieve-0.1/Sieve-0.1.lua): |
| 07:34.18 | CIA-17 | Baggins: |
| 07:34.19 | CIA-17 | - Bank bags update properly when categories are edited |
| 07:34.19 | CIA-17 | - Container Type rule and categorizing empty slots works for bank bags |
| 07:34.41 | nevcairiel | it does |
| 07:34.47 | krka | imo, there is some point to being as restrictive as possible |
| 07:34.58 | nevcairiel | thanks, that bug was driving me nuts :p |
| 07:35.07 | ckknight | anyone in US that can spare 5 minutes? |
| 07:35.09 | Kaelten | krka: possibily, but I try to stick to patterns I understand |
| 07:35.43 | Kaelten | ckknight: sup? |
| 07:35.43 | Nargiddley | what you need ckknight ? |
| 07:35.43 | ckknight | Guild Positions test ;-) |
| 07:35.43 | neurotech | Question about buyouts and server maintenance - is it still possible to bid on an item just before the server goes down to take advantage of low bid amounts vs. the buyout amount? |
| 07:35.43 | Xuerian | ckknight: I'd do it, but since cart still stores map files, it'd take me a good 20 minutes to get to that 5 minutes |
| 07:35.43 | Kaelten | I don't get the '?' atm |
| 07:35.47 | ckknight | Xuerian: :-P |
| 07:35.48 | nevcairiel | ? means 0 or 1 |
| 07:35.49 | krka | -?[0-9]+ is hardly a complex pattern :) |
| 07:35.52 | Nargiddley | one sec i'll update cart |
| 07:36.04 | ckknight | Nargiddley: actually not necessary. |
| 07:36.12 | Kaelten | krka: I don't understand the ? keyword though |
| 07:36.20 | Kaelten | not saying its complex, jsut that I don't know what the ? means |
| 07:36.24 | Nargiddley | ckknight, too late anyway heh |
| 07:36.28 | pastamancer | ? = 0 or 1 |
| 07:36.41 | Kaelten | so what does -? mean? |
| 07:36.48 | pastamancer | 0 or 1 "-" |
| 07:36.53 | Nargiddley | optionally - |
| 07:36.58 | Kaelten | ah k |
| 07:36.58 | nevcairiel | %-? means 0 or one "-" |
| 07:36.59 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 07:37.16 | nevcairiel | i think you have to escape - with the % |
| 07:37.20 | ckknight | you do |
| 07:37.29 | ckknight | well, maybe not in all cases |
| 07:37.36 | ckknight | but it's weird if you don't |
| 07:37.58 | Kaelten | would this work? |
| 07:37.59 | Kaelten | %-?%d+ |
| 07:38.01 | ckknight | Xuerian: Funkeh's been working on the maps, actually |
| 07:38.04 | ckknight | yes, Kaelten |
| 07:38.08 | Xuerian | ckknight: Oh? |
| 07:38.13 | ckknight | Xuerian: yea. |
| 07:38.19 | Xuerian | ckknight: Progress? |
| 07:38.22 | ckknight | yes. |
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| 07:38.31 | ckknight | we have Mana Tombs and such now. |
| 07:38.45 | CIA-17 | 03kaelten * r25861 10OneStorage/OneStorage-2.0/OneStorage-2.0.lua: OneStorage - slightly more restrictive pattern |
| 07:38.48 | Xuerian | ckknight: Minimap maps or compiled maps? |
| 07:38.57 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: confirm that the new pattern works for me? |
| 07:38.57 | ckknight | generated |
| 07:39.15 | Xuerian | IE, no more 2mb download? <.< |
| 07:39.16 | neurotech | Can anyone answer my question or point me in the direction of where I could find out? |
| 07:39.30 | ckknight | Xuerian: slowly decreasing as we're adding more generated maps |
| 07:39.30 | Xuerian | neurotech: [Re]State your question |
| 07:39.36 | Xuerian | ckknight: Ahh, nice |
| 07:39.40 | neurotech | Question about buyouts and server maintenance - is it still possible to bid on an item just before the server goes down to take advantage of low bid amounts vs. the buyout amount? |
| 07:39.49 | ckknight | yes, neurotech |
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| 07:40.10 | neurotech | thanks :) |
| 07:42.01 | ckknight | Nargiddley: when you're ready, come to Baelgun and make a non-Blood Elf |
| 07:42.06 | ckknight | Horde, though |
| 07:42.19 | Nargiddley | k |
| 07:42.21 | ckknight | actually, make an undead |
| 07:42.31 | Nargiddley | getting spammed with errors, so updating everything |
| 07:43.10 | ckknight | sounds like a plan |
| 07:43.31 | Nargiddley | updated cart, errors, updated a couple libs, different errors |
| 07:43.42 | Nargiddley | so now everything to be safe heh |
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| 07:45.51 | tjs | anyone use bartender3? |
| 07:46.00 | tjs | just installed it and cyCircle |
| 07:46.13 | tjs | works perfectly, except one thing |
| 07:46.45 | ckknight | btw: you think it'd be worth adding a "LIST" command to the version checker in AceComm? |
| 07:46.52 | tjs | I'm a druid, bar1 has my spells for caster form, when I change to bear they update to my bear-bar options, when I change to cat it just stays on caster tho |
| 07:46.53 | ckknight | currently you check one addon at a time |
| 07:47.00 | ckknight | LIST could show all addons... |
| 07:47.08 | ckknight | not sure it's necessary, though |
| 07:48.04 | ckknight | I found out one of my guildies uses Metamap, though |
| 07:49.39 | Kaelten | feel betrayed? |
| 07:49.43 | ckknight | a little |
| 07:49.55 | ckknight | part of me wants a list of all her mods, now |
| 07:50.08 | Nargiddley | ckknight, char names Lucias |
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| 07:52.56 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25862 10Cartographer/Modules/GuildPositions.lua: Cartographer-GuildPositions - now show guild members when zoomed out of zones, so you can view all of Azeroth/Kalimdor/EK/Outland and see visible guildies. |
| 07:55.52 | ckknight | alright, please test |
| 07:56.04 | ckknight | by please test, I mean, use it, love it, then force the rest of your guild to use it. |
| 07:56.32 | ckknight | and now you can use VersionChecker to impose your fascist regime |
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| 07:57.35 | nymbia | woo, regime! |
| 07:57.53 | Nargiddley | ckknight, http://ace.pastey.net/5413 |
| 07:59.21 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25863 10Cartographer/Modules/GuildPositions.lua: Cartographer-GuildPositions - remove old tmp reference |
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| 08:13.07 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25864 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2 - added The North Sea |
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| 08:18.20 | Gngsk | is there a mod that converts item tooltips that say crit raitng of x to %crit ? |
| 08:21.10 | Fisker- | ratingbuster |
| 08:22.27 | Antiarc | I will need testers shortly. |
| 08:22.37 | Antiarc | I think I've just finished a mod that's EnchantList, except for any tradeskill. |
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| 08:27.39 | SkorcherX | ahhh |
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| 08:27.40 | SkorcherX | new prat has the emote button shown and i cant get it to hide |
| 08:28.10 | SkorcherX | i can hide/show the rest of the chat channel buttons... |
| 08:28.23 | SkorcherX | but the emote button stays regardless |
| 08:28.47 | DrZoot_ | does anyone here use a macbook for WoW/WoW Development? |
| 08:29.31 | DrZoot_ | a macbook pro to be more precise |
| 08:30.19 | Kaelten | I know ck has a mac |
| 08:30.31 | ckknight | I do |
| 08:30.36 | ckknight | MacBook Pro |
| 08:30.38 | ckknight | it's shiny |
| 08:30.46 | DrZoot_ | ckknight, do you game on it or just develop? |
| 08:31.01 | ckknight | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/apple |
| 08:31.01 | ckknight | both |
| 08:31.50 | DrZoot_ | do you have any issues with playing WoW on it? I just ordered one today, not really for WoW but it would be nice if it ran on it |
| 08:32.21 | ckknight | WoW runs so nice compared to my old Win laptop |
| 08:32.29 | ckknight | I can see the water so clearly |
| 08:32.33 | ckknight | it's beautiful... |
| 08:32.34 | CIA-17 | 03athou * r25865 10EnchantList/ (EnchantList.lua localization.lua): |
| 08:32.34 | CIA-17 | EnchantList: |
| 08:32.34 | CIA-17 | - ring enchants now supported |
| 08:32.35 | pastamancer | hell, wow runs acceptably on my powerbook G4 |
| 08:33.28 | DrZoot_ | Well I just ordered a 2.33ghz 15" macbook pro, so Im hoping that it will do the job |
| 08:34.30 | DrZoot_ | first mac ive ever owned so im kind of excited about it |
| 08:34.41 | SkorcherX | why mac? |
| 08:36.00 | DrZoot_ | well I have always been a big fan on linux, I like the way that Unix based systems work, the thing I didnt like was wrestling with odd drivers to get things to work, so I figured that the mac would suit me fairly well |
| 08:36.16 | ckknight | SkorcherX: I got a mac cause it was cheaper than the other options |
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| 08:36.23 | ckknight | for the same hardware |
| 08:36.33 | Elkano | ckknight, did you do some fixing to cartographer's minimap display lately? I had the problem of a misplaced, following icon yesterday |
| 08:36.42 | ckknight | I fixed it |
| 08:36.59 | Kaelten | ckknight: anyone else having out of date issues? |
| 08:37.20 | ckknight | don't think so |
| 08:37.45 | Wobin | And WoW just decided to shut itself down |
| 08:37.56 | Wobin | It was working fine before the xpac |
| 08:37.58 | Kaelten | anyone who has issues at this point is probably having a bad line in their hosts file |
| 08:38.02 | Wobin | wru griefing me |
| 08:39.10 | Kaelten | Wobin: I've beeng etting more random crashes sicne the expansion |
| 08:39.16 | Wobin | yeah |
| 08:39.18 | Kaelten | some of mine where due to fragmented harddrive though |
| 08:39.22 | Wobin | My fps is down to about 1 |
| 08:39.30 | Wobin | hm, I might defrag my HD |
| 08:39.31 | Kaelten | oh my fps is fine when it runs |
| 08:39.42 | Wobin | I have everything at zero level |
| 08:39.45 | Kaelten | lol I had about 35% or so fragmentation. |
| 08:39.52 | Wobin | graphics wise |
| 08:39.58 | Wobin | and it still moves like a one legged dog |
| 08:40.05 | Wobin | (with an itch) |
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| 08:52.42 | Adirelle|work | Kaelten: the way updated works rises fragmentation a lot |
| 08:52.54 | Kaelten | updated? |
| 08:53.03 | Adirelle|work | s/updated/MPQ update/ |
| 08:53.06 | nee|work | hm |
| 08:53.36 | Kaelten | ah |
| 08:53.37 | Kaelten | that sucks |
| 08:53.39 | Adirelle|work | it seems it rebuild a new MPQ from the old one, updating files in the way |
| 08:53.47 | Adirelle|work | then delete the old one |
| 08:53.51 | Kaelten | bah |
| 08:53.54 | nee|work | *creates a stripped version of Cartographer without the notes, points of interest, profession-things, vendors, etc, for personal use* |
| 08:53.55 | Adirelle|work | well, I guess it's that |
| 08:54.21 | Adirelle|work | that would explain why it needs so many storage to achieve upgrading :s |
| 08:55.17 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 08:55.33 | Kaelten | wow should ship with an comercial defrag then |
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| 08:55.46 | Fisker- | btw Kaelten |
| 08:55.53 | Fisker- | Beta 2 of wowaceupdater is out :P |
| 08:55.54 | Adirelle|work | take a look at O&O defrag trial :D |
| 08:56.38 | Adirelle|work | (on Win32 obviously) |
| 08:56.47 | Kaelten | Fisker-: cool, the new files script is nearing completion |
| 08:56.56 | nee|work | *alphamap |
| 08:57.35 | Fisker- | Was more so if you wanted to update the topic :P |
| 08:58.00 | nee|work | :) |
| 08:58.02 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips | New WowAceUpdater beta (1.7b 2) | WHANGDEPOOTENAWAH, n. In the Ojibwa tongue, disaster; an unexpected affliction that strikes hard. |
| 08:59.57 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: what do you mean ? |
| 09:00.56 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: Well, alphamap was nice and clean, just a map with transparency, no extra bits, a very minimal addon. But I do like the group colors of Cartographer :) |
| 09:01.38 | Fisker- | Well it's all based on modules so can't you just disable them? |
| 09:01.48 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: you're talking of a very old version of alphamap, right ? later ones are bloated |
| 09:02.12 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: Yes, an old version, modified even to be less bloated, which was posted on the wowace forums some time ago, but which still works |
| 09:03.38 | Health | ckknight: dude! Tested carto yesterday. Would it be hard to make people visible on the continent overview map too? |
| 09:04.06 | nee|work | Fisker-: I know, but the buttons at the top remain for instance, which I find ugly.. I know, cosmetics, so not too important perhaps. Alphamap just feels cleaner for some reason because it's not made to do a lot of things apart from showing the map in a custom manner. |
| 09:04.10 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: personnaly I think the instance (and instanceloot) module of cartographer should be made independant, because it is the most heavy parts |
| 09:04.22 | Elkano | Health, for guild it's in by now according to commit notes |
| 09:05.28 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: Ah yes, indeed that adds a lot of weight. And I think Atlas/Atlas-loot looks better. For some reason the instances part of Cartographer looks like something which was just added because it was possible. It doesn't feel clean or finished for some reason. |
| 09:06.11 | nee|work | But again, that's cosmetics, so very possibly preference. |
| 09:06.30 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: well, it is less complete that atlas and atlasloot, but it is also quite sufficient in my opinion |
| 09:06.30 | nee|work | First comes usability, then cosmetics. |
| 09:06.39 | nee|work | :) |
| 09:07.07 | Health | Elkano: Sweet. |
| 09:07.15 | Adirelle|work | the only thing I find annoying is the possibilty to dynamically put the loot list left or right depending on where the boss is located |
| 09:07.15 | ckknight | Health: already done |
| 09:07.31 | Adirelle|work | (and to simply close it too) |
| 09:07.37 | krka | yeah, already done, stop being so behind |
| 09:07.44 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: Hm, I read something about that on the forums, that it overlaps the map? I agree that would be a hassle. |
| 09:08.05 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: in fact, the list is anchored inside the map |
| 09:08.13 | Adirelle|work | either left or right |
| 09:08.19 | nee|work | Oh, so even when moved or scaled it's on top? |
| 09:08.30 | Adirelle|work | yep |
| 09:08.35 | nee|work | Nasty |
| 09:08.41 | Adirelle|work | not a big deal, but annoying nevertheless |
| 09:09.13 | Adirelle|work | shouldn't be too hard to tweak tho |
| 09:09.14 | Health | You are behind krka! |
| 09:09.51 | krka | :( |
| 09:10.01 | krka | that makes me a sad panda |
| 09:10.30 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: A Cartographer just with Look'n'Feel, GroupColors, Battlegrounds and ZoneInfo, and without the buttons at the top so that it looks more like Alphamap would be my preferred map-addon. |
| 09:11.28 | nee|work | Hm. Something else though about Cartographer. I noticed that the groupcolor icons fade when the map-alpha is changed. Could those icons be made to have a separate setting to be more visible? |
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| 09:13.14 | Slayman | mornings, fellow conspirators |
| 09:13.20 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: My main reason for trying Alphamap again, is because yesterday when in that hmm.. Z-marsh place, I could not see the golden dots on my minimap because they were obscured by all the map-notes. And for some reason I could not remove the vendor notes unless I cleared all the map notes, losing the |
| 09:13.25 | nee|work | losing the 'gatherer'-stuff too |
| 09:13.31 | nee|work | Hi Slayman |
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| 09:14.03 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: weird |
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| 09:14.20 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: personnaly, I uninstalled vendors for this reason |
| 09:14.29 | nee|work | Ah, you deleted the module? |
| 09:14.31 | Slayman | anyone knows the reason, why checking out via SVN isn't working actually? like it hangs up after lagging itself to death. |
| 09:14.31 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: and I'm working on Quests to add more filters |
| 09:14.50 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: er... it is a seperated addon, isn't it ? |
| 09:15.03 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: Um.. *checks* |
| 09:15.16 | nee|work | Ah yes, good point :) |
| 09:15.20 | Adirelle|work | :) |
| 09:15.46 | Adirelle|work | I'm currently working on a new version of quest notes, with handy filters |
| 09:15.59 | ckknight | when rape is inevitable, why not just lie back and enjoy it? |
| 09:16.32 | nee|work | For some reason ZoneInfo did not work for me though, it's one thing I missed. I am glad Blizzard put names on the map, in the graphics. I had it enabled. |
| 09:16.34 | Adirelle|work | my goal is mainly hiding quest givers that I don't have to deal with |
| 09:16.43 | ckknight | nee|work: there should be a way to hide vendor notes. |
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| 09:17.20 | Health | My vendor notes were in the middle of the screen yesterday :( |
| 09:17.27 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: AFAIK, vendor notes is a separate module, and yes it can be disabled in game |
| 09:17.42 | nee|work | ckknight: I tried disabling the vendor note part from the menu, but it did not do so. Is it possible I got the notes from fellow Cartographer users in my guild, classifying those notes as something other than can be disabled by disabling VendorNotes? |
| 09:17.43 | Fisker- | A search function in notes + some sort of highlighting would be gold |
| 09:17.52 | Adirelle|work | the lack of good filtering makes it quite useless tho |
| 09:17.56 | ckknight | no, nee|work |
| 09:18.01 | nee|work | ok |
| 09:18.14 | nee|work | I ended up clearing all my notes, so that 'fixed' it ;) |
| 09:18.16 | Adirelle|work | Fisker-: yeah, that would be great |
| 09:18.43 | Fisker- | oh hi ckknight i just raped uranus |
| 09:18.43 | Fisker- | :P |
| 09:18.55 | nee|work | But then i thought.. Hmm.. now it almost looks like Alphamap. I wonder if that version from long ago still works. And then I tried Alphamap, but I did miss the nice colored class-circles :) |
| 09:19.49 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: A function where the quest-giver note is removed once there are no more quests would be nice, but I am not sure how easy or difficult that would be to implement. |
| 09:20.24 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: well, I have something like that almost working |
| 09:20.29 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: Perhaps the note could be added once a quest is accepted, and removed when a quest is completed, showing the note only when a quest from that giver is in the log? |
| 09:20.52 | Fisker- | bad idea, unless for one self |
| 09:20.53 | Adirelle|work | in fact, it records all quests and questgiver it can, then there is a filter based on your questlog |
| 09:20.57 | Fisker- | Since you share notes with the guild |
| 09:21.24 | nee|work | Well, I don't necessarily want to share notes. I like exploring myself and discovering where things are. |
| 09:21.48 | Adirelle|work | Fisker-: in my version, notes are added "faction-wise" (and so can be shared), the filtering is done 'locally' depending on your char quest log |
| 09:21.55 | Fisker- | ok |
| 09:22.18 | Fisker- | Perhaps also to know where the quest starts and ends |
| 09:22.22 | nee|work | Fisker-: I agree it can be useful for professions like herbalism/mining, but for NPCs it feels like others are taking me by the hand and leading me through part of the game. |
| 09:22.31 | Fisker- | heh |
| 09:22.35 | Adirelle|work | I added 4 filters : active, completed, failed, known |
| 09:22.43 | Fisker- | I think the quests do that pretty much already |
| 09:23.13 | nee|work | True, but that's enough to me. At least the quests don't tell me about things far outside the region I have discovered/seen with my own eyes. |
| 09:23.27 | Adirelle|work | Fisker-: unfortunaly, there is no "built-in" database (and I don't want one, would be too huge) |
| 09:23.30 | Fisker- | But i could imagine with the quest log filtering that the quest icons then change to a yellow ? when it's done |
| 09:23.43 | nee|work | Cartographer turns players into psychics :P |
| 09:24.14 | nee|work | Which is great for the people rushing to 70 in our guild I suppose. |
| 09:24.18 | Adirelle|work | (personnaly, I only enable "completed" quests, to know where I should go to get the rewards) |
| 09:24.35 | nee|work | :) |
| 09:24.49 | Adirelle|work | that avoids overwhelming my map with notes |
| 09:25.06 | Adirelle|work | btw, I see a "complication" of this |
| 09:25.18 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: If completed could be turned into the golden dot instead of the book that sounds good. |
| 09:26.17 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: I thought about this, but Cartographer_Notes doesn't currently allow dynamic icons |
| 09:26.21 | nee|work | ok |
| 09:27.03 | nee|work | Or rather, a golden circle would have been better, which fills up with the Blizzard golden dot when seen on the minimap |
| 09:27.18 | nee|work | That way both are visible |
| 09:28.10 | nee|work | *both would be |
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| 09:29.36 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: depends on Cartographer_Notes too, dunno if there is a way to change it |
| 09:30.07 | nee|work | :) |
| 09:30.24 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: what about "dynamic" icons in Cartographer_Notes ? (I mean an override like IsNoteHidden that would return a registered icon name) |
| 09:31.22 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: and yes I know that RefreshMap should be called to allow change to take effect, but that's could be handled I guess |
| 09:32.03 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: actually there are some things that won't be "nice" with quests |
| 09:32.27 | nee|work | Nice, as in efficent? Or cosmetic? |
| 09:32.33 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: 1) "done" quests will appears as "known" (it doesn't maintain quest history) |
| 09:32.37 | Adirelle|work | "cosmetic" |
| 09:33.28 | nee|work | ok |
| 09:33.38 | Adirelle|work | 2) quests (in case of sharing or reroll) will appears as "known" even if you don't have the required level (not too hard to fix tho) |
| 09:35.05 | nee|work | Hm. That's not too bad, if the known filter isn't used to display them ;) |
| 09:35.11 | Adirelle|work | 3) if quest giver and quest "receiver" are different, all that are in the database will be shown with "active", "completed" or "failed" filters |
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| 09:35.40 | Adirelle|work | i.e. both if both are known, or only giver if you didn't meet the receiver |
| 09:35.46 | Wobin | hm |
| 09:35.50 | Wobin | 23% fragmented |
| 09:35.56 | Wobin | I think it's probably time to defrag |
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| 09:36.15 | nee|work | ok |
| 09:36.20 | nee|work | That last one is a bit messy |
| 09:36.20 | tjs | nevcairiel: hello |
| 09:36.40 | tjs | nevcairiel: could I bother you for a sec? |
| 09:36.43 | nee|work | But likely because Blizzard never intended the data available to be used in such a manner as you intend |
| 09:36.52 | nee|work | Wobin: Yup |
| 09:37.10 | Wobin | But there is where the fun lies =P |
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| 09:37.24 | Wobin | for are we not hackers at heart? |
| 09:37.50 | tjs | nevcairiel: just trying out your excellent bartender3 mod, I'm a druid, everything is working fine, except bar1 refuses to switch to the designated catform bar, it switches when I go into bear form just fine, but catform just stays the same |
| 09:37.58 | tjs | has anyone else experienced this ? |
| 09:38.05 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: yep... dunno if I could handle this case, it would bloat the module a loot tho |
| 09:38.20 | Adirelle|work | s/loot/lot/ |
| 09:38.38 | nee|work | s/tho/though/ |
| 09:38.42 | nee|work | :P |
| 09:39.10 | nee|work | tjs: Not in a while. Are you using the latest version? |
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| 09:40.15 | tjs | nee|work: could you link me the latest version, the svn links seem broken, and I'm not sure which of the download links on the various mod sites are the latest |
| 09:40.36 | nee|work | http://files.wowace.com/Bartender3/Bartender3-r25640.zip |
| 09:40.54 | tjs | thanks heaps :) |
| 09:40.59 | nee|work | tjs: always get it from wowace.com/files or use WowAceUpdater to update your addons. |
| 09:41.18 | tjs | ok |
| 09:42.56 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle 07filters * r25866 10Cartographer_Quests/Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: |
| 09:42.56 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests: (drycoded) |
| 09:42.56 | CIA-17 | - fixed an "nil" error, |
| 09:42.56 | CIA-17 | - notes visibilty should update when quest status changes, |
| 09:42.56 | CIA-17 | - fixed filter menu ordering. |
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| 09:44.02 | nee|work | :) |
| 09:46.01 | tjs | that fixed it, thanks a bunch :) |
| 09:47.32 | nevcairiel | i should upload the latest version to WoWI |
| 09:47.40 | nevcairiel | so that i avoid people like him :D |
| 09:48.05 | Aenslaed | are there any boss mods similar to bigwigs, but for 5man instances in TBC? Such as a timer for the last boss in black morass and etc |
| 09:50.28 | Kirkburn|afk | nevcairiel, you love it really =) |
| 09:50.38 | Fisker- | Bigwigs has some bossmods for some of the new instances |
| 09:50.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Y'know I miss having one realm for everyone :( |
| 09:50.42 | Fisker- | but the last boss is not on a timer |
| 09:50.53 | Fisker- | Infact the defauilt ui has a timer for you |
| 09:51.31 | BarDwellr | Xuerian: btw, BoP / BoE still isnt working using ur official build.. i'll debug later when I remember again =) |
| 09:57.20 | a-stray-cat | anyone know when its first okay to send a message over SendAddonMessage? |
| 09:59.36 | Kaelten|coding | I wouldn't do it before ace's fully initialized method |
| 09:59.37 | Kaelten|coding | personally |
| 10:00.08 | krka | SendAddonMessage independent of Ace though, righT? |
| 10:00.14 | krka | i thought that was a blizzard function |
| 10:00.18 | Kaelten|coding | ya it is |
| 10:00.23 | nee|work | Er, could someone remind me what the current mount/riding prices are for land epic mounts? |
| 10:00.45 | Fisker- | ~90 and 540~ |
| 10:00.55 | Fisker- | or something like that |
| 10:00.55 | nee|work | yes |
| 10:01.00 | Kaelten|coding | but if other addons are spost to respond/ do something with it that oyu might be running then I'd wait till then |
| 10:01.16 | nee|work | I knew it was 'something like that' :P |
| 10:01.21 | nee|work | But not exactly. I'll google a bit more |
| 10:02.07 | Adirelle|work | Fisker-: I thought it was 1k gold total (without honored reduction), with 20% for mount and 80% for riding |
| 10:02.50 | CIA-17 | 03nickenyfiken * r25867 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/TrainerNotes.lua: |
| 10:02.50 | CIA-17 | FuBar_TrainerFu: |
| 10:02.50 | CIA-17 | - Fix for TrainerNotes.lua:381 error |
| 10:02.50 | CIA-17 | - Note filter should properly filter again |
| 10:03.16 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: No, they changed the price to 5-something |
| 10:03.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Adirelle: they reduced the prices when the expansion came out. |
| 10:03.28 | Adirelle|work | ok |
| 10:04.34 | nee|work | 540 and 90 indeed,with the honored discount |
| 10:05.33 | nee|work | 'Battlegrounds - allows you to view battlegrounds outside of the zone.' - Does this mean that module is not needed when in the Battlegrounds? |
| 10:05.38 | NightHawkTheSane | hey, any of you know of a good addon to make the demon trainer vendor window look.. uh.. not idiotic? |
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| 10:05.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Random question: Is there an Ace addon that tracks sell values? |
| 10:06.01 | OverlordQ | ColaLight |
| 10:06.02 | nee|work | NightHawkTheSane: Define idiotic |
| 10:06.37 | NightHawkTheSane | scrolling through absurd numbers of pages trying to figure out which tomes i can learn, which i've already learned, etc. :P |
| 10:06.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Next question - what benefit might it have over SellValue? |
| 10:06.51 | nee|work | Ah. |
| 10:07.01 | nee|work | The layout is different so I am not sure it can be filtered |
| 10:07.09 | OverlordQ | never used SellValue |
| 10:07.12 | NightHawkTheSane | I never understood why demon training was handled any different than hunter pet training |
| 10:07.28 | nee|work | Kirkburn|afk: It's Ace and can be easily updated using WAU? That seems to be a very popular 'selling' point :) |
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| 10:07.34 | Kirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 10:07.46 | nee|work | NightHawkTheSane: Beceause you buy books, not skills directly |
| 10:07.55 | Kirkburn|afk | NightHawkTheSane, DemonTrainerFrame |
| 10:07.59 | nee|work | And Books adds some flaire. |
| 10:08.03 | NightHawkTheSane | nee|work: semantic difference :P |
| 10:08.16 | Kirkburn|afk | It's not Ace, but it works :) |
| 10:08.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirkburn|afk: thanks :) |
| 10:08.23 | krka | it's retarded that you can only see which books you have for the pet you're currently having |
| 10:08.48 | Kirkburn|afk | krka, very |
| 10:08.49 | nee|work | I agree for consistencies' sake, they should have given the Mage books too, as that fits the profile... mages rummaging through stacks of books to learn something new |
| 10:09.45 | NightHawkTheSane | nee|work: i can certainly agree it's a nice rp concept, but it really impedes sane functionality :P |
| 10:09.52 | nee|work | :) |
| 10:10.01 | nee|work | Well, warlocks are anything but sane :P |
| 10:10.10 | NightHawkTheSane | arguably so. |
| 10:10.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Wow there are sooo many FuBar addons these days |
| 10:10.45 | nee|work | (anyone on my Cartographer Battlegrounds module question?) |
| 10:11.30 | CIA-17 | 03anea * r25868 10SpamSentry/ (59 files in 18 dirs): |
| 10:11.31 | CIA-17 | SpamSentry: initial commit |
| 10:11.31 | CIA-17 | - This addon stops goldspam messages from showing and offers an easy one-click report function to create GM-tickets |
| 10:11.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Now that's awesome |
| 10:12.05 | Kirkburn|afk | I was going to get SpamSentry |
| 10:12.12 | Nargiddley | 59 files ? |
| 10:12.28 | nee|work | cool, it's aced now? |
| 10:12.42 | nee|work | Cartographer has more files :) |
| 10:12.43 | Adirelle|work | but... 59 files oO |
| 10:12.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Er, it has odd files in it |
| 10:13.04 | Nargiddley | ahhh |
| 10:13.09 | Nargiddley | its got libs |
| 10:13.13 | krka | myfavoritepr0n.jpg? |
| 10:13.19 | Nargiddley | not externals |
| 10:13.21 | Nargiddley | heh |
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| 10:14.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Dammit, why's the authot not on here :/ |
| 10:14.20 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: would you mind this change to Cartographer/Notes : http://ace.pastey.net/5414 |
| 10:14.22 | Kirkburn|afk | *author |
| 10:16.05 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: ping ? |
| 10:16.09 | nee|work | 'Battlegrounds - allows you to view battlegrounds outside of the zone.' - Does this mean that module is not needed when in the Battlegrounds? |
| 10:16.15 | ckknight | Adirelle|work: seems good |
| 10:16.26 | ckknight | nee|work: true |
| 10:16.29 | nee|work | ok |
| 10:16.35 | ckknight | nee|work: the module is extremely light, though |
| 10:16.35 | nee|work | *deletes* |
| 10:16.43 | nee|work | :) |
| 10:17.48 | nee|work | Could Cartographer be made to use a fubar plugin instead of the two buttons at the top? |
| 10:18.11 | nee|work | I think I can use DeuceCommander for it now, at least for the configuration part, but I really dislike the buttons being there. |
| 10:19.25 | xlvii | Is Postal the new GMail? |
| 10:20.19 | Kaelten|coding | xlvii: yes |
| 10:20.55 | Cyrez | Like, if it had a tooltip that pops up with the buttons when you open the map. |
| 10:21.44 | nee|work | Hm. I'd rather just have the configuration moved there to leave me with a very clean map |
| 10:22.04 | Cyrez | I know, that's what I'm saying. |
| 10:22.09 | nee|work | oki |
| 10:22.25 | Cyrez | It'd be totally out of the way when the map's not open. ^^ |
| 10:22.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, that would be cool/useful |
| 10:22.26 | nee|work | The way you said it made me think you wanted the buttons in the Fubar menu |
| 10:22.50 | Cyrez | Nah... Just an icon with a tooltip that pops up under it. |
| 10:23.05 | Cyrez | Something like RegenFu has but you can click it. |
| 10:23.30 | nee|work | But with the option to show it even when the map is not open, so that instances/loot could be viewed by people who want to. |
| 10:25.23 | Cyrez | That's easy enough. |
| 10:26.31 | Cyrez | And make it so you can detach it and move it where you want it. |
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| 10:34.22 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle * r25869 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer: Notes: added :GetNoteIcon(zone,id,data) hook for external DBs. |
| 10:38.36 | haarm | boh! |
| 10:39.00 | haarm | guys, is there any enchanting addon, where i can input per reagent prices, and it automatically calculates a price for enchants? |
| 10:39.15 | Adirelle|work | dunno if "failed quests" filter is really useful... |
| 10:40.41 | nee|work | me neither, you get the gong warning anyway, which should be enough to remind you to abandon and start over |
| 10:41.07 | nee|work | I doubt many people fail a quest and then move on to something else. They retrace their steps and try again. |
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| 10:45.50 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r25870 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: |
| 10:45.50 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 10:45.51 | CIA-17 | - Updated deDE Local |
| 10:49.59 | Caiman | just a quick question, have anyone here noticed that when u tab to map (M) in and out sometimes the interface gets cleared (alt+z) using cartographer ? is it a blizz bug ? |
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| 10:53.08 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r25871 10FuBar_RLAssistFu/ (. FuBar_RLAssistFu.toc): |
| 10:53.08 | CIA-17 | FuBar_RLAssistFu: |
| 10:53.08 | CIA-17 | - Added a missing external |
| 10:53.11 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r25872 10FuBar_TinyPadFu/ (. FuBar_TinyPadFu.toc): |
| 10:53.11 | CIA-17 | FuBar_TinyPadFu: |
| 10:53.11 | CIA-17 | - Added a missing external |
| 10:53.15 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r25873 10FuBar_UIReloadFu/ (. FuBar_UIReloadFu.toc): |
| 10:53.15 | CIA-17 | FuBar_UIReloadFu: |
| 10:53.15 | CIA-17 | - Added a missing external |
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| 10:54.30 | evl | Can I use SetScript on a FontInstance? |
| 10:54.32 | evl | I'd like to display a tooltip when it's being hovered over |
| 10:55.05 | CIA-17 | 03renchap * r25874 10Prat/modules/ (ChatLangButton.lua Clear.lua ServerNames.lua): Prat: frFR update |
| 10:55.12 | Nargiddley | nope, fontstrings are just regions. cant accept mouse input |
| 10:56.50 | sylvanaar | you gotta do a hack like bliz did |
| 10:56.54 | Nargiddley | you can create a frame, setallpoints to the fontstring then use that for mouse |
| 10:57.07 | sylvanaar | create a hidden button under the text |
| 10:57.50 | sylvanaar | thats how itemref's work |
| 10:59.10 | Linad | Excuse me, can someone speak German? |
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| 11:01.36 | sylvanaar | seit Zwanzig Jahren habe ich kein Deutch gesprochen |
| 11:02.04 | sylvanaar | everyone says my german is terrible |
| 11:02.27 | Elkano | it's better than that of some Germans ;) |
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| 11:04.25 | sylvanaar | richtig ist funfzehn Jahren - Zwanzig ist zu viel |
| 11:06.43 | Kirkburn|afk | LOL |
| 11:06.50 | Kirkburn|afk | My succubus didn't have invisibility |
| 11:07.23 | Silviu- | Kirkburn|afk u are not the only one i saw in BG`s a lot of 60`s that go with succubus not invisible |
| 11:07.24 | Silviu- | :)) |
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| 11:08.46 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 11:12.01 | Iceroth | Cartographer-r25847\Modules\Notes.lua:3137: Argument #3 is expected to be [0, 1], got 1.4242444990345 |
| 11:12.04 | Iceroth | :s |
| 11:12.09 | Iceroth | about 143 times |
| 11:14.00 | poptix | bleh |
| 11:14.09 | poptix | i need to find a tradeskill cooldown alert addon |
| 11:14.16 | poptix | one that is actually kept up to date |
| 11:14.37 | CIA-17 | 03dafire * r25875 10TuiRaidTracker/ (TuiRaidTracker.lua icon.tga): TuiRaidTracker: added placeholder icon and changed default loglevel |
| 11:14.38 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle 07filters * r25876 10Cartographer_Quests/Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: |
| 11:14.38 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests: (drycoded) |
| 11:14.38 | CIA-17 | - new filter "trivial quests": uncheck to force hiding of all grey quests, |
| 11:14.38 | CIA-17 | - new filter "unavailable quests": uncheck to hide all quests with unmatched level requirement, |
| 11:14.41 | CIA-17 | - attempt to dynamically select quest note icons (drycoded, so may be ugly). |
| 11:15.27 | CIA-17 | 03renchap * r25877 10ClosetGnome/locales/frFR.lua: ClosetGnome: frFR translation fix (works fine now) |
| 11:16.44 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r25878 10ClosetGnome/locales/esES.lua: ClosetGnome: updated esES |
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| 11:21.34 | Linad | If you starts to programming a new addon for wow, you also type e.g. console reloadui in wow to see what your addon do? |
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| 11:22.55 | Adirelle|work | Iceroth: try updating, your carto seems a bit outdated |
| 11:22.59 | CIA-17 | 03nickenyfiken * r25879 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/TrainerNotes.lua: |
| 11:22.59 | CIA-17 | FuBar_TrainerFu: |
| 11:22.59 | CIA-17 | - Added options to change icon scale, alpha and toggle minimap icons. |
| 11:22.59 | CIA-17 | - Default icon size set to 12px |
| 11:22.59 | CIA-17 | - Notes options is shown in Cartographer options menu too. |
| 11:23.33 | Kirkburn|afk | NightHawkTheSane, the demon trainer thing is here, though it needs updates: http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5116/demon-trainer-continued/ |
| 11:24.22 | NightHawkTheSane | cool. thanks |
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| 11:29.03 | Gagorian | Linad: That works unless you change .toc |
| 11:29.09 | Gagorian | Like add files |
| 11:29.39 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r25880 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: updated esES |
| 11:30.09 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r25881 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/Localization_esES.lua: ClosetGnome_OhNoes: updated esES |
| 11:31.02 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r25882 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ (ClosetGnome_Switcher.toc Locale-esES.lua): ClosetGnome_Switcher: added spanish (esES) translation |
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| 11:36.03 | vith_ | gee what a surprise, no patch notes on the website for 2.0.6 |
| 11:36.16 | ggilbert | It's in the forums |
| 11:36.31 | ggilbert | Basically hunter and mage nerfs. Some bug fixes. |
| 11:36.55 | ggilbert | I'm wondering whether they nerfed XP though |
| 11:37.30 | nee|work | Because people become 70 in a matter of days? |
| 11:37.35 | ggilbert | aye |
| 11:37.57 | Xelar | one kick question |
| 11:38.05 | nee|work | Well, I'm still 62, but a lot in my guild are racing for level 70 |
| 11:38.11 | Xelar | any othere then me having problems with the "onebank" addon |
| 11:38.27 | Xelar | i dont see any thing in my bank before i move things over |
| 11:38.36 | Xelar | then move them arround a bit more then they show up |
| 11:38.47 | axxo | if they nerf xp, ppl are gonna be pissed :) |
| 11:38.48 | CIA-17 | 03darkimakuni * r25883 10MiniButtLib/MiniButt-1.0/MiniButt-1.0.lua: |
| 11:38.48 | CIA-17 | MiniButtLib: |
| 11:38.48 | CIA-17 | - Bugfix |
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| 11:39.06 | vith_ | a couple in my guild already hit 70, it's a little late to help that. |
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| 11:39.26 | vith_ | which forum is it on? "Text search temporarily disabled" |
| 11:39.34 | ggilbert | we have 3 or 4 60s |
| 11:39.37 | ggilbert | General |
| 11:40.21 | axxo | 60s? ;p |
| 11:40.28 | ggilbert | 70s |
| 11:40.58 | nee|work | I think they changed the XP gain because now when you complete all the quests on the Hellfire Peninsula, you're almost too high level for the Marsh area |
| 11:41.40 | Gagorian | I disagree |
| 11:41.47 | Gagorian | I've completed every quest until netherstorm |
| 11:41.53 | Gagorian | And it's worked out perfect |
| 11:41.55 | axxo | i did all quests in every zome upto nagrand |
| 11:42.01 | axxo | and i'm 65 now starting nagrand |
| 11:42.10 | Gagorian | Level 69 now working netherstorm |
| 11:42.29 | ggilbert | I skipped all of Blade's Edge and so far it's going smoothly :) |
| 11:42.46 | CIA-17 | 03moonsorrow * r25884 10ClosetGnome/locales/deDE.lua: |
| 11:42.46 | CIA-17 | ClosetGnome: |
| 11:42.46 | CIA-17 | - updated deDE locale |
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| 11:45.31 | dafire | I'm doing more instances and will do more quests later .. more money ;) |
| 11:45.38 | CIA-17 | 03zekiel * r25885 10GridStatusHotStack/ (. GridStatusHotStack.lua GridStatusHotStack.toc libs/): |
| 11:45.38 | CIA-17 | GridStatusHotStack: initial commit |
| 11:45.39 | CIA-17 | - Counts stacked heal-over-time buffs and uses progressive colors to indicate the active number of HOTs. |
| 11:46.37 | haarm | Gagorian, i did every quest i could and hit netherstorm halfway through 69 |
| 11:46.43 | haarm | with a few instances thrown in |
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| 11:47.50 | xlvii | is there anyway for postal to open all mail more quickly? |
| 11:47.55 | Gagorian | I've done once ramparts, one blood furnace, one mana tombs. |
| 11:47.59 | Gagorian | Uh, and yeah one underbog |
| 11:47.59 | phyber | axxo: same here. I'm 50% through 65 and parked myself at the Nagrand inn last night :) |
| 11:48.11 | phyber | (did all quests in other zones before going there) |
| 11:48.20 | Gagorian | haarm: Haven't done SMV yet though |
| 11:48.40 | haarm | nope |
| 11:48.42 | haarm | me either |
| 11:48.55 | dafire | did my first cot yesterday ;) |
| 11:49.08 | Gagorian | well, I've two manned most quests |
| 11:49.11 | haarm | saved the high level quests for after 70... 12-25g per quest owns |
| 11:49.15 | Gagorian | so it probably might make a difference |
| 11:49.16 | ggilbert|remotre | assuming it hasnt changed too significantly, Netherstorm shoul be able to carry you from 67 to 70 |
| 11:49.18 | dafire | saving smelling orcs .. pew |
| 11:49.42 | Gagorian | netherstorm has a sick amount of quests |
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| 11:50.06 | ggilbert|remotre | yeah |
| 11:51.41 | ggilbert|remote | I havent really instanced much though. |
| 11:52.02 | Gagorian | Seems stupid to me to start running the same instance over and over when there's a lot of questing etc content |
| 11:52.38 | Gagorian | Besides low level instance loot isn't good enough to replace anything (for me at least) |
| 11:52.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Hmm, WAU just stopped working with /files for me |
| 11:52.54 | markv | i tried some shattered halls at 67 |
| 11:52.57 | dafire | server poof |
| 11:52.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Keeps saying "no public versions" |
| 11:53.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, switchy mirror time |
| 11:53.37 | markv | it was pretty painful at that lvl |
| 11:53.39 | Koaschten | Babble-zone throws an error -> http://ace.pastey.net/5416 |
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| 11:54.00 | groll | ooh time for tbc break.. new heroes episode is out!! YAY! :D |
| 11:54.04 | ggilbert|remote | gagorian, yeah. |
| 11:54.34 | dafire | Koaschten: which locals are you playing ? |
| 11:54.51 | groll | Kirkburn|afk did u get my pm?= |
| 11:55.03 | nee|work | groll: heroes? |
| 11:55.16 | groll | u havent seen heroes? O_O |
| 11:55.23 | nee|work | *checks wikipedia* |
| 11:55.30 | Gagorian | New BSG, prison break and 24! |
| 11:55.31 | groll | best show this year |
| 11:55.38 | Gagorian | A lot to watch |
| 11:55.40 | groll | bsg i saw last day :D:D |
| 11:55.53 | groll | i dl to much.. it interferes to much with my wow playing :P |
| 11:55.53 | Gagorian | Yeah downloaded it yesterday but was too stuck leveling :P |
| 11:56.13 | groll | ok ur wierd.. to stuck at leveling to watch BSG o_O |
| 11:56.14 | groll | :P |
| 11:56.15 | nee|work | hm okay, I'll queue it |
| 11:56.21 | Kirkburn|afk | groll, aye, interesting info |
| 11:56.48 | Gagorian | groll: Have a bit of comptetition :Å |
| 11:56.54 | groll | Kirkburn|afk okies goodie :) i dunno why but as soon as i disable look'n feel BUMP oh there was my clearfont working :P |
| 11:57.05 | Kirkburn|afk | weird |
| 11:57.12 | groll | yep definately |
| 11:57.28 | groll | Gagorian hehe :P |
| 11:57.37 | groll | oh well breakfast time and heroes time :D |
| 11:57.42 | groll | back in a bit |
| 11:58.10 | Koaschten | dafire enGB |
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| 12:01.12 | Kirkburn|afk | So many Fubar plugins now, had to go to two lines :/ |
| 12:02.08 | xlvii | is there anyway for postal to open all mail more quickly? |
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| 12:03.54 | CIA-17 | 03sylfi * r25886 10PlayerRating/PlayerRatingCommunication.lua: |
| 12:03.54 | CIA-17 | PlayerRating: |
| 12:03.54 | CIA-17 | - Now using the fixed AceComm. |
| 12:03.55 | nee|work | hehe. Funny people on the forums complaining about how their loot has been outdated :) |
| 12:03.59 | dafire | make font smaller and get a widescreen ,) |
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| 12:10.45 | Saroz | Anyone using XLootGroup? |
| 12:12.32 | xlvii | i assume grennon does not come on the irc? |
| 12:13.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Baggins isn't hiding my Bank frame |
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| 12:14.03 | Adirelle|work | Kirkburn|afk: enable "hide default bank" and talk again to the npc |
| 12:14.17 | Adirelle|work | xlvii: he does sometimes |
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| 12:14.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Adirelle, ah yes it wasn't ticked. Thanks! |
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| 12:15.15 | Adirelle|work | Kirkburn|afk: the default config has been changed not long ago |
| 12:16.09 | [ND]_afk | ckknight: got the spellicons of the new profession for your babble-spell |
| 12:16.09 | [ND]_afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:16.09 | [ND]_afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:16.09 | [ND]_afk | pls update J;) |
| 12:16.43 | Kirkburn|afk | I just started using it today - not sure if I can get used to not being in control of the object positions |
| 12:17.27 | Kirkburn|afk | Also, BLOODY ALDOR LIFT |
| 12:18.00 | xlvii | adirelle|work, thanks. |
| 12:18.18 | Nickenyfiken | moonsorrow: are you there? |
| 12:18.29 | Kirkburn|afk | wtf. The top half of my Fubar tooltips is shaded grey |
| 12:19.02 | Adirelle|work | Kirkburn|afk: oSkin, skinner or the like ? |
| 12:19.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Nope |
| 12:19.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Just randomly started |
| 12:19.45 | Kirkburn|afk | No idea what caused it, no error or anything |
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| 12:35.30 | Wobin | Kirkburn|afk: The lift causing Undercity flashbacks? |
| 12:36.09 | Kirkburn|afk | I've never been to Undercity .... |
| 12:36.14 | kenlyric | hmmm... except this lift you can fall off of. |
| 12:36.30 | kenlyric | so many lifts to fall off of in outlands :) |
| 12:36.33 | Kirkburn|afk | In this case it was cause I got stuck though, not cause I was stupid ^^ |
| 12:37.20 | Wobin | ah |
| 12:37.27 | kenlyric | The one of the Aldor rrise, if it starts moving *just* before you reach it, you just sail off into the plaza before you. |
| 12:37.29 | Wobin | Undercity lift is the cause of many a crushing death |
| 12:37.36 | kenlyric | *slpat* |
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| 12:37.45 | kenlyric | s/slpat/splat/ |
| 12:37.53 | axxo | its full of skellies on my relam |
| 12:37.54 | Wobin | also stepping into it -just- as it starts to move down... |
| 12:37.54 | kenlyric | thanks purl |
| 12:37.55 | axxo | its imba |
| 12:38.03 | Wobin | Like jumping into the Gnomeregan lift =P |
| 12:38.13 | axxo | 'How can we make the ironforge gap worse?' |
| 12:38.19 | Silviu- | [2007/01/23 14:06:18-193-x23]: Cartographer-r25869\Modules\GuildPositions.lua:269: Babble-Zone-2.2: Translation "Nethersturm" does not exist. |
| 12:38.48 | Silviu- | Nethersturm ? not Netherstorm ? :P |
| 12:39.03 | kenlyric | then there's the lift in the alliance flight hub in zangarmarsh, that can look visuall connected but which still has a tiny gap in it for about 1/4 of a second that you can fall right through. |
| 12:39.06 | FryGuy | kenlyric: that's why you get to 70, get a flying mount, and fly up/down :) |
| 12:39.27 | kenlyric | FryGuy, once you're falling it's too late though :) |
| 12:39.35 | FryGuy | slowfall ftw :) |
| 12:39.45 | Wobin | hope there's a critter you can charge at |
| 12:39.47 | kenlyric | FryGuy, not if you're mounted. |
| 12:39.49 | FryGuy | and arrakoa guys drop light feathers now too |
| 12:39.50 | Wobin | down the bottom |
| 12:39.54 | Zekiel | ## Interface: 20006 for this patch i assume? |
| 12:40.02 | kenlyric | Zekiel: I would assume not. |
| 12:40.06 | FryGuy | ah, but you can dismount & push the keybind fast enough, unless server is lagging :) |
| 12:40.09 | Zekiel | what's it at now? |
| 12:40.10 | kenlyric | no interface changes. |
| 12:40.16 | kenlyric | 20003, I believe. |
| 12:40.19 | Zekiel | ok thx |
| 12:40.38 | kenlyric | FryGuy: not so much the server as me... Shattrath is a nightmare on my computer at night. |
| 12:41.17 | FryGuy | well if server is lagging then i cast slowfall and just jump off :) |
| 12:41.39 | kenlyric | smart idea... now that I'm getting this nonstop stream of light feathers. |
| 12:41.46 | CIA-17 | 03zekiel * r25887 10GridStatusHotStack/ (. GridStatusHotStack.lua GridStatusHotStack.toc): |
| 12:41.46 | CIA-17 | GridStatusHotStack: |
| 12:41.46 | CIA-17 | - Minor variable name changes and cleanup. SVN submit test really... |
| 12:41.58 | Zekiel | whoa |
| 12:42.07 | Zekiel | *becomes paranoid* |
| 12:43.33 | kenlyric | I had gotten use to not having them for a while, and I was swimming out to nat pagle last night, and on the way back I thought "why am I getting wet like a chump" |
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| 12:45.28 | Wobin | It's true |
| 12:45.36 | Wobin | levitaite is brilliant |
| 12:47.36 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r25888 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua: PeriodicTable-3.0: Add an additional arg to :ItemInSet() for performance comparison purposes. |
| 12:47.39 | kenlyric | well, nearly brillaint. Nothing like hitting it while in the water and have it not pop you above the water. |
| 12:47.51 | vhaarr | What's the best way to detect a form change, like druid shapeshifting or warrior stance change? |
| 12:50.54 | kenlyric | rawr |
| 12:51.28 | kenlyric | besides that, I believe it fires a spell notification. |
| 12:51.47 | kenlyric | X gains defensive stance, something like that. |
| 12:51.53 | vhaarr | hrm, yes |
| 12:52.20 | Saroz | Xuerian |
| 12:54.30 | Saroz | wtf is BoL in XLoot? |
| 12:55.00 | kenlyric | Bind on Loot? |
| 12:55.06 | Saroz | nah was a BOE item |
| 12:55.19 | BarDwellr | bind on lick.. if you lick it, it becomes soulbound ? |
| 12:55.35 | kenlyric | BarDwellr: just like a woman. |
| 12:55.45 | BarDwellr | kenlyric: is that how they work ! |
| 12:56.00 | Adirelle|work | BarDwellr: it is something cold enough, it just becomes tonguebound |
| 12:56.34 | BarDwellr | last i was looking at xloot, I saw BoL as a typo for something else ? |
| 12:57.22 | nae|lap | Hello again |
| 12:57.33 | nae|lap | Bind on Lickup |
| 12:57.37 | BarDwellr | need to bug Xeurian re the BoE / BoP detection anyways.. not working after I updated & lost my local hacks I'd made |
| 12:58.03 | vhaarr | nymbia: That :GetRecipeUsage stuff from PT1, have you got anything equivalent in PT3 yet? I know we talked about it some time ago. |
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| 12:58.41 | nae|lap | Is warmup removed? |
| 12:58.43 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r25889 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Babble-2.2: updated esES for Boss and Zone |
| 12:58.46 | nae|lap | I can not see it on wowace.com/files |
| 12:59.20 | nymbia | vhaarr: yeah, TradeskillResultMats |
| 12:59.21 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r25890 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/esES.lua: Cartographer: updated esES in InstanceNotes |
| 12:59.26 | vhaarr | nymbia: ah |
| 12:59.53 | nymbia | vhaarr: though it'll behave a lot different so i'm not sure how well it'll work |
| 13:00.01 | vhaarr | aha |
| 13:00.08 | kenlyric | hmm... perhaps a selfbuffing mod wasn't the best way to get a first stab at mod coding. |
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| 13:00.23 | Dhraga | hi all |
| 13:00.49 | phyber | nae|lap: Tekkub's addons were moved. |
| 13:00.55 | nymbia | vhaarr: the value of the id is the list of it's reagents and their amounts |
| 13:01.29 | vhaarr | x2, right |
| 13:01.29 | phyber | http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/ |
| 13:01.35 | nae|lap | phyber: okay. Thanks for the reply. |
| 13:03.07 | nae|lap | phyber: But Warmup is not there either. |
| 13:03.37 | phyber | yes, it is. |
| 13:03.50 | nae|lap | ah, there's a link on the wiki to wowinterface and google code |
| 13:03.52 | Tekkub | wowi |
| 13:04.01 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07PT3 * r25891 10Mendeleev/ (9 files): |
| 13:04.01 | CIA-17 | Mendeleev: First stab at a PT3-conversion. Only half-done, and half-assed at that. |
| 13:04.01 | CIA-17 | Don't use this, kids. I've omitted libraries on purpose. |
| 13:04.07 | nae|lap | No downloads on google code. Getting it from wowinterface |
| 13:04.27 | vhaarr | nymbia: there you go |
| 13:05.05 | nymbia | vhaarr: thanks |
| 13:05.18 | vhaarr | nymbia: it's not working very well :P |
| 13:05.49 | vhaarr | if you diff it vs the original version, you'll see that the DoTooltip method only handles one line per category, and ignores the filter now. |
| 13:06.16 | nymbia | ok |
| 13:08.54 | Koaschten | hrrrmmm could it be that babble lacks german zone names? |
| 13:09.09 | vhaarr | You could look and find out. |
| 13:09.48 | Koaschten | it was a rather rethorical question, cause i know it lacks em ;) |
| 13:10.10 | Koaschten | http://ace.pastey.net/5417 |
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| 13:10.59 | vhaarr | No, that's ckknight making a mistake. |
| 13:11.09 | vhaarr | He should've used reversed translations. |
| 13:13.25 | DarkImakuni | is anea here? |
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| 13:22.08 | CIA-17 | 03darkimakuni * r25892 10SpamSentry/SpamSentry/libs/ (13 files in 13 dirs): |
| 13:22.08 | CIA-17 | SpamSentry: |
| 13:22.08 | CIA-17 | - Removed unnecessary lib files from directories |
| 13:22.08 | CIA-17 | - Setting externals |
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| 13:24.51 | Adirelle|work | DarkImakuni: \o/ some cleanup (59 => 13 files) |
| 13:25.08 | DarkImakuni | lol :) |
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| 13:29.18 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r25893 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: updated esES in Zone |
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| 13:30.38 | sylvanaar | DarkImakuni is that your mod? |
| 13:30.45 | DarkImakuni | no, it's aneas |
| 13:31.05 | DarkImakuni | he/she is not in this channel |
| 13:31.18 | DarkImakuni | besides, my mods never work :P |
| 13:32.30 | sylvanaar | I want to add a spam filter mod to the Prat collection either as an external mod or as part of the collection. |
| 13:32.58 | sylvanaar | maybe ask him if hes interested |
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| 13:32.59 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07PT3 * r25894 10AutoBar/ (21 files in 2 dirs): AutoBar: First commit of working PT3 conversion. No libraries in this branch. Some categories like food bonus categories are gone now. |
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| 13:33.18 | DarkImakuni | SpamSentry blocks goldfarmers, and I have a feeling he'd want it to remain standalone |
| 13:35.01 | DarkImakuni | I'm not even sure he comes here... |
| 13:35.12 | sylvanaar | yeah, allright - i always like to ask the author first. |
| 13:36.08 | sylvanaar | very few actually want to collaborate its surprising |
| 13:37.50 | vhaarr | the code looks pretty crap though, but maybe it works. |
| 13:38.20 | sylvanaar | PT3? |
| 13:38.39 | vhaarr | no, spamsentry |
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| 13:39.19 | sylvanaar | ok -i wasnt sure if you were talking about your commit or my comment |
| 13:39.45 | vhaarr | I know my commit works, it's just slow compared to PT2 and it's missing some food categories. |
| 13:39.57 | Mikma | Kemayo: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3927 <- this in QuestsFu please :D |
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| 13:40.28 | JoshBorke | mikma: hot |
| 13:40.29 | sylvanaar | im sure it works fine - i was just confused |
| 13:40.43 | vhaarr | Mikma: Cartographer_Quests adds map notes automatically, I think. |
| 13:40.58 | JoshBorke | but that requires correlation and searching |
| 13:41.12 | vhaarr | I've never used it, I'm just guessing its function. |
| 13:41.14 | JoshBorke | let me hover over the 20 quest icons on my map to find the one quest i'm looking for |
| 13:41.17 | abbat_w | yep, automatically |
| 13:41.22 | _neuron_ | hm, it'd be possible to get the zone/subzone from a cartographer note right? |
| 13:41.27 | _neuron_ | cuz that'd make it fairly easy to implement that :P |
| 13:41.30 | abbat_w | They put note with icon |
| 13:41.34 | JoshBorke | not to mention when multiple quests come from the same wondering mob |
| 13:41.37 | abbat_w | Note is quest giver name |
| 13:41.39 | Mikma | vhaarr: i don't need more mapnotes, i need info like that on quests, which is hot like JoshBorke said |
| 13:41.40 | sylvanaar | what its missing is linking the map point to the quest |
| 13:42.17 | _neuron_ | that'd be easy to implement, /me 's gonna put that in my questlog :P |
| 13:42.24 | abbat_w | Josh_Borke, yep, sometimes map looks like heap of quest icons ;) |
| 13:42.30 | vhaarr | Mikma: Pardon me for trying to help. |
| 13:42.41 | krka | what is the mob wondering? |
| 13:42.43 | JoshBorke | unexcusable rabbit |
| 13:42.50 | _neuron_ | wandering not wondering krka :P |
| 13:42.53 | JoshBorke | krka: why you're so mean to me :-( |
| 13:42.57 | Mikma | vhaarr: no i won't! you are useless!!!11oneone (j/k) |
| 13:43.06 | vhaarr | : |
| 13:43.09 | vhaarr | < |
| 13:43.16 | krka | because it's fun :) |
| 13:44.37 | sylvanaar | ok, so is there an existing chat spam filter mod that you guys like? or whisper tracker? or sounds? or hillight? |
| 13:45.00 | krka | i like the sounds of birds chirping in the spring |
| 13:45.01 | Mikma | sylvanaar: Cellular seems to be pretty damn nice |
| 13:45.13 | Mikma | it's ForgottenChat made extremely light |
| 13:45.15 | sylvanaar | he blew me off when i asked him |
| 13:45.46 | sylvanaar | told me to use WIM |
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| 13:46.36 | sylvanaar | but he has a couple mods i think would fit nicely into prat - the sounds one and that one |
| 13:46.36 | Wobin | Not only is O&O Defrag kinda cool |
| 13:46.39 | Wobin | it's much more accurate |
| 13:46.49 | Wobin | it tells me I'm 43% fragmented =P |
| 13:46.50 | sylvanaar | yeah, but they need to update ir |
| 13:46.58 | Wobin | Which is much more what I expected =P |
| 13:47.08 | Wobin | Since I've never defragged this computer before |
| 13:47.33 | sylvanaar | that number is % of drive space used by fragmented files |
| 13:47.41 | sylvanaar | which is not a useful number |
| 13:48.05 | Nayon | soo Last night I got a green drop in a wing of tempest keep that was better than my GM mageblade.. |
| 13:48.18 | Mikma | Wobin: hi wobbly, wobbled much lately? |
| 13:48.27 | sylvanaar | sorry % of used drive space used by fragmented files |
| 13:48.36 | Wobin | Rabbit's been wobbling for me =) |
| 13:48.53 | Mikma | :DD |
| 13:49.46 | Toadkiller | who is rabbit in here? |
| 13:49.54 | sylvanaar | but O&O defrag is the best....just dont use clevercache |
| 13:50.05 | Mikma | Toadkiller: wabbit! |
| 13:50.25 | Silviu- | sylvanaar or PerfectDisk |
| 13:50.31 | sylvanaar | sylvanaar = cat or bare |
| 13:50.49 | Toadkiller | Mikma you are Rabbit? |
| 13:50.54 | Trancer | durid |
| 13:51.12 | Toadkiller | dont ask for ninervate when bare is fite |
| 13:51.15 | Mikma | Toadkiller: nope, guess again :D |
| 13:51.19 | sylvanaar | yeah, perfectdisk was quirky last version i didnt like it, but they have some other drive tools that are top notch |
| 13:51.37 | Wobin | clevercache? |
| 13:52.06 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: I am. |
| 13:52.14 | sylvanaar | durid r 4 having fun with fRendz |
| 13:52.29 | sylvanaar | he was from my home server |
| 13:52.37 | Wobin | I just ran it from the default =\ |
| 13:52.44 | Wobin | I hope clevercache isn't set |
| 13:52.51 | sylvanaar | dont use clevercache |
| 13:52.57 | sylvanaar | its not at all clever |
| 13:53.39 | Toadkiller | vhaar: ah ok. well the reason you cant check in the PT3 stuff you did is because it is missing a bunch of categories... |
| 13:53.40 | sylvanaar | if you like the OS and clevercache a non-stop page swapping war |
| 13:54.13 | Wobin | oh |
| 13:54.24 | Wobin | is that O&O AutoSense? |
| 13:54.32 | sylvanaar | no |
| 13:54.35 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: I know, I checked it in to a branch now. It just amazes me that you would start working on it knowing that I had already done all the implementation work already. |
| 13:54.40 | Wobin | I can't find a CleverCache |
| 13:54.46 | Wobin | So I'll assume it's not set |
| 13:54.50 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: I take that as a direct insult. |
| 13:54.50 | sylvanaar | good, that means you didnt install it |
| 13:55.03 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 13:55.03 | sylvanaar | is a separate program, but they bundle it |
| 13:55.37 | Toadkiller | vhaar: its not about the implementaion, thats trivial. Its getting the categories right in PT3 thats the big deal. |
| 13:56.12 | sylvanaar | how to i GPL Prat? |
| 13:56.12 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: I leave that to nymbia ;) |
| 13:56.52 | sylvanaar | i read thier website, but its a little unclear |
| 13:57.03 | vhaarr | You add a stub license to all the lua files, a gpl.txt full copy, and add X-License: GPLv2 or later to the TOC. |
| 13:57.21 | Toadkiller | I cant afford that aproach. I like to keep breakage to a minimum. When I converted to PT2 it was perfect except for losing conjured food & water priority. |
| 13:57.49 | sylvanaar | vhaarr: thanks |
| 13:58.30 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: I don't care if I break maximum, it's a freaking developer SVN. If people want to use it, they better learn to cope with that. |
| 13:59.23 | sylvanaar | i break something every time i commit |
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| 13:59.50 | sylvanaar | thats just the way I roll |
| 14:01.11 | vhaarr | :P |
| 14:01.40 | Nayon | Question, what happened to the stats in the Fubar Preformance fu telling me about time to next garbage collection? |
| 14:02.11 | nae|lap | I think garbage collection is continuous now |
| 14:02.19 | kenlyric | heh, I wish. |
| 14:02.26 | JoshBorke | it attempts to but doesn't actually |
| 14:02.27 | nae|lap | hm |
| 14:02.50 | Nayon | It only seems to happen when I hit the max space.. then its a decent freeze while it does it.. |
| 14:02.58 | Toadkiller | vhaar: sorry i missed the part where you are insulted. I do not mean to insult you. Consider coordinating major development with the mod author in the future? |
| 14:04.06 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: Hey, I provide you with a patch, you ignore it, so I get insulted. If I had never told you about it, then of course I wouln't have cared. |
| 14:06.24 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: Indeed, I would've coordinated with you, if I could've gotten a hold of you on IRC. Like I said the first time you replied, I had been trying to contact you for 4 days already. |
| 14:07.25 | Toadkiller | vhaar: I do not think we are talking about the same thing here. PT3 is missing a bunch of stuff that was in PT2. THere can be no patch or release or whatever without that. If it insults you that Nymbia did not convert PT2 to PT3 in a way that AutoBar can use it then I don't know what to say |
| 14:07.55 | vhaarr | That's not what I said :) |
| 14:08.08 | vhaarr | Try to use tab-completion for nicks, I'm not getting highlighted when you reply. |
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| 14:09.46 | Silviu- | Who from u have an account on Demonoid.com ? :P |
| 14:09.49 | Koaschten | [Ammo] |
| 14:09.52 | Funkeh` | hey all |
| 14:09.56 | Koaschten | gief auto-invite for anything plx :D |
| 14:10.59 | Saroz | anyone had problems broadcasting their cart database with noteshare? |
| 14:11.03 | Saroz | people arent getting my nodes |
| 14:11.14 | Funkeh` | tell them to l2p |
| 14:11.46 | Saroz | I blame cart |
| 14:11.50 | Saroz | is there some kind of delay on the sync? |
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| 14:12.36 | Nayon | Note share never seems to work for me |
| 14:12.47 | Saroz | it works fine with new nodes people fidn |
| 14:12.51 | Saroz | but not when sending the db |
| 14:13.13 | nae|lap | scoot over :) |
| 14:13.39 | Saroz | what mod are they fighting over? |
| 14:13.42 | nae|lap | Hm |
| 14:13.48 | nae|lap | Autobar I think |
| 14:13.53 | Nayon | If the other person just DLs it off wowinterface instead of the svn would that be a reason for noteshare to not work? |
| 14:14.02 | nae|lap | There was some lack of/miscommunication |
| 14:14.42 | Adirelle|work | and now there are SVN conflicts, but not in the SVN sense... |
| 14:14.43 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 072.0b1-preGPL * r25895 10Prat/: Prat: Tagging the 2.0 beta 1 non-GPL version |
| 14:16.07 | nae|lap | I think they're back in their corners now, having their supports splash water in their face, then drying them up a bit. Oh, and they're getting a new teeth-protector. |
| 14:16.13 | nae|lap | *supporters |
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| 14:19.57 | Nayon | Woo... My server is up for a server split... |
| 14:20.15 | Adirelle|work | nae|lap: I'm confused, are you connected in some way to nee ? |
| 14:21.04 | nae|lap | Adirelle|work: Yes |
| 14:21.10 | nae|lap | Adirelle|work: I am the same |
| 14:21.21 | nae|lap | :) |
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| 14:21.28 | nae|lap | This is the connection from my laptop |
| 14:21.38 | nee|lap | there |
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| 14:21.52 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r25896 10Prat/ (36 files in 2 dirs): Prat: Added all the stuff required to designate Prat as GPL. Its DRYCODE - servers are down |
| 14:22.09 | Adirelle|work | oki, was confused by the typo :) |
| 14:22.47 | nee|lap | :) |
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| 14:30.48 | Fisker- | In the name of prat i will test and subsequently blame prat for it! |
| 14:30.52 | Vegeta]BT[ | It seems that Cartographer needs a fix, it does not display the correct map anymore |
| 14:31.12 | Fisker- | Get rollcall library |
| 14:31.16 | Gagorian | Unpossible! |
| 14:31.23 | Vegeta]BT[ | rollcall library ? |
| 14:31.30 | Vegeta]BT[ | what does this library do ? |
| 14:31.40 | Fisker- | some guild functions or whatever |
| 14:31.52 | Fisker- | required by cartographer |
| 14:32.02 | Vegeta]BT[ | ah ok, thx i'll try that |
| 14:32.14 | Vegeta]BT[ | is this library available with the winaceupdater ? |
| 14:32.23 | Fisker- | http://files.wowace.com/RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0-r25839.zip |
| 14:32.25 | Fisker- | yes |
| 14:32.32 | Vegeta]BT[ | thx ^^ |
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| 14:33.17 | Saroz | What level is COT black morass? |
| 14:33.32 | Saroz | would you say :) |
| 14:33.35 | inph | L68 |
| 14:33.36 | Fisker- | i68 |
| 14:33.38 | Fisker- | 68* |
| 14:33.50 | Fisker- | you can do with 67's though |
| 14:34.06 | Silviu- | sylvanaar something strange with prat, even if Chat Menu is off in Prat it still apears there :) |
| 14:34.09 | Fisker- | though a lot of stuff can be done on lower levels :P |
| 14:34.19 | nee|lap | Does anyone have an idea about: http://ace.pastey.net/5421 ? I've been getting those for days now |
| 14:34.34 | sylvanaar | Silviu- i did not touch the buttons module |
| 14:34.47 | Silviu- | It`s for 1 day or 2 |
| 14:34.58 | JoshBorke | nee|lap: update all your mods |
| 14:35.08 | sylvanaar | Silviu- maybe related to that language bar that got added |
| 14:35.10 | nee|lap | JoshBorke: I do that various times each day |
| 14:35.31 | Silviu- | It disapear if i enable show chatbutton1 and disable again then it goes away |
| 14:35.42 | Silviu- | After reload/enter game it apears back :) |
| 14:35.53 | nee|lap | Ah, thanks Silviu-. Ah. Well, at least it's a temporary fix |
| 14:36.03 | Silviu- | ^^ |
| 14:36.26 | sylvanaar | that module is a massive time sink |
| 14:36.50 | sylvanaar | every time i touch it - i spend the whole day on it |
| 14:37.15 | Silviu- | Ups :/ |
| 14:37.33 | JoshBorke | nee|lap: i just turn on the Ignore common mod mistakes |
| 14:37.53 | Silviu- | sylvanaar, btw no errors with new GPL thingy |
| 14:38.04 | sylvanaar | yay |
| 14:38.05 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r25897 10Prat/modules/ (FontSize.lua ServerNames.lua): Prat: Updated localization koKR |
| 14:38.05 | Silviu- | Till now :) |
| 14:38.27 | sylvanaar | when |
| 14:38.41 | nee|lap | JoshBorke: But that's no real fix :| |
| 14:39.52 | Fisker- | damn Silviu- :( |
| 14:40.21 | Silviu- | ? |
| 14:40.32 | Saroz | noteshare broadcast isnt working -.- |
| 14:41.11 | Vegeta]BT[ | 11•12Fisker-11• It worked :) |
| 14:41.24 | Fisker- | indeed it did |
| 14:41.37 | Trancer | ohmaigawd, horrible colours |
| 14:41.43 | JoshBorke | nee|lap: it's a problem to do with tainting by some ace addon |
| 14:41.45 | Fisker- | Curse you interlopers! |
| 14:41.48 | Fisker- | Prat is without flaws |
| 14:42.04 | sylvanaar | no way |
| 14:42.12 | nee|lap | JoshBorke: Hm, Would that taint-detecting addon help me locate the problem? |
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| 14:42.35 | Vegeta]BT[ | One other thing, my wardrobe gives me an error of "Bad Argument" when i try to update or delete Equipmentsaves |
| 14:42.36 | ilifin | any way to make autobar mount flying mounts when in outland and nonflying when it's not possible to? >:/ |
| 14:42.37 | JoshBorke | nope |
| 14:43.01 | nee|lap | rats |
| 14:43.38 | inph | sylvanaar are you seeing issues with prat timestamps missing on random lines when addons are outputting to the chat frame? |
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| 14:43.45 | nee|lap | ilifin: You could make a macro for that I think, like there is a macro to use druid swim-form when in water, and land-travel-form when on land, with one button press# |
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| 14:44.26 | sylvanaar | inph: only at logon |
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| 14:44.59 | sylvanaar | inph: but then i dont use may other mods that output to the chatframe |
| 14:45.02 | ilifin | nee|lap, macros can check for location? :/ |
| 14:45.15 | whizter | hi. is there an addon which shows the price for 1 item in the AH besides a stack? (like qahimproved, but that produces errors here) |
| 14:45.34 | Toadkiller | whizter: Fence |
| 14:45.40 | nee|lap | ilifin: No, but they can check if something is possible or not, at least I think that druid macro does something like that |
| 14:45.58 | whizter | Toadkiller, thx |
| 14:46.31 | sylvanaar | inphL make a copychat and post a pastey |
| 14:46.44 | ilifin | nee|lapa anywhere I can see this macro |
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| 14:48.41 | nee|lap | ilifin: On the official WoW forums, in the Druid class section. |
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| 14:51.08 | inph | sylvanaar: http://veterans.org.uk/tmp/prat_missing_timestamps_WoWScrnShot_012307_001824.jpg |
| 14:53.00 | inph | sylvanaar: i notice it happens intermittently whenever a mod outputs a few lines to the chatframe |
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| 14:59.52 | Adirelle|work | nee|lap: I don't think it could work with mounts |
| 15:00.01 | Adirelle|work | nee|lap: I meant with outlands in fact :) |
| 15:00.25 | Saroz | ehhhh |
| 15:00.27 | Adirelle|work | quite hard to check "if I'm in outland" in a macro |
| 15:00.36 | Saroz | noteshare only spams database for the zone you are in |
| 15:00.43 | Saroz | it doesnt sync the entire cart database |
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| 15:04.01 | nee|lap | Adirelle|work: Hm. Oh well :) It was a long shot |
| 15:04.36 | Adirelle|work | nee|lap: 11 minutes before reaction ? :) |
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| 15:04.49 | Adirelle|work | Saroz: indeed, that ain't fun |
| 15:04.58 | Saroz | gonna fix it |
| 15:05.12 | nee|lap | Adirelle|work: I'm mining :) |
| 15:05.14 | Saroz | should be a matter of simply loop all zones |
| 15:05.30 | Adirelle|work | Saroz: it will stress AceComm |
| 15:05.42 | Saroz | well it's only done when the users selects to do it |
| 15:05.49 | Saroz | ie. not all the time |
| 15:05.52 | nee|lap | mining and mailing |
| 15:05.52 | Adirelle|work | yep |
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| 15:07.14 | nee|lap | useful |
| 15:08.55 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r25898 10Postal/ (Locales/esES.lua Postal.toc): Postal: - added spanish (esES) translation |
| 15:15.58 | Antiarc|Work | Regarding the macros, I believe there are macro modifiers for swimming/not swimming |
| 15:16.09 | Antiarc|Work | That's what lets the driud macro work |
| 15:16.22 | nee|lap | Ah. |
| 15:16.36 | Antiarc|Work | If you want a "flying mount if in outland, normal otherwise" macro, then /dismount; /cast Flying Mount Name; /cast Normal Mount Name |
| 15:16.39 | nee|lap | I'm not on my druid now, so I can't check what it is |
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| 15:22.05 | Mikma | vhaarr: lololoo |
| 15:22.17 | vhaarr | Mikma: olol |
| 15:22.20 | vhaarr | Mikma: sup |
| 15:22.33 | Mikma | vhaarr: nothin', watchin' a game, havin' a bud |
| 15:22.48 | Mikma | vhaarr: btw, gz on @ |
| 15:23.13 | vhaarr | Mikma: thanks |
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| 15:27.45 | sylvanaar | anyone know why GloryLib has externals? |
| 15:28.13 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: You fucked up indenting in Glory, btw. |
| 15:28.23 | sylvanaar | lies |
| 15:28.59 | sylvanaar | what did it have tabs? |
| 15:29.53 | Jens | Hmm, friend of mine has a problem installing TBC. |
| 15:30.02 | Jens | Little spam: |
| 15:30.03 | Jens | The file "Files\unconditional\user\Data\enGB\Interface\Cinematics\WOW_Intro_BC_800.avi" in archive "F:\Installer Tome 4.mpq" could not be opened, because an error 104 occurred. If this problem persists, please contact Blizzard Technical Support. (MPQFile::-OpenFromArchive) |
| 15:30.06 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: Of course it had tabs. |
| 15:30.12 | Fisker- | RETARDS |
| 15:30.16 | sylvanaar | seriously though, it it supposed to have externals? |
| 15:30.22 | Fisker- | and not only limited to you sylvanaar :P |
| 15:30.26 | Jens | I can't afford TBC until next payday, so I have no idea what's going on. Anyone know what this is about? |
| 15:30.48 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: Yes, why shouldn't it have externals? |
| 15:30.50 | sylvanaar | it should have dependancies not externals right? |
| 15:31.09 | Fisker- | Probably corruption on the discs |
| 15:31.10 | vhaarr | That's the same thing. |
| 15:31.18 | vhaarr | Or, can be the same. |
| 15:31.20 | Fisker- | btw a show on TV over here |
| 15:31.23 | Fisker- | "The SPAM-club" |
| 15:31.37 | Fisker- | probably the most retarded name you could choose |
| 15:31.56 | sylvanaar | in this case it has optionaldeps with externals |
| 15:31.56 | Jens | So eh... disc corruption. Sounds somewhat unlikely, and all discs from the same glass master would be defective. |
| 15:32.08 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: Yeah, so they're optional dependencies that are pulled in as externals if you run standalone. |
| 15:32.15 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: I don't see the big deal with that, we all do that. |
| 15:32.23 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: And fix the damn indenting. |
| 15:32.46 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25899 10Cartographer/Instances/ (4 files): Cartographer: removed unused maps |
| 15:33.38 | sylvanaar | is there any reason to embed libraries in libraries though? |
| 15:33.53 | vhaarr | The library uses that library? |
| 15:34.49 | groll | [2007/01/23 16:33:48-232-x28]: ag_UnitFrames-05-01-07\ag_UnitClass.lua:1281: Usage: UnitAffectingCombat("unit") --- |
| 15:34.53 | jkw | lol, the revision i have of Cartographer shows orgrimmar map in AV (in the battlemap) :D |
| 15:35.22 | nee|lap | hehe |
| 15:36.46 | sylvanaar | but the only time they'd be used is if the library was running standalone..oh well no matter |
| 15:38.52 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: If the library is running embedded, the addon that embeds it has to embed those libraries as well if they're not optional. |
| 15:39.41 | kenlyric | embe |
| 15:39.43 | kenlyric | d |
| 15:41.15 | sylvanaar | GloryLib has a libs folder in it with all the libs that it uses. im wondering why it doenst have a Dependancy on those libs instead. |
| 15:43.06 | vhaarr | Because it embeds them. |
| 15:43.18 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: All the addons in the SVN do it like this. |
| 15:45.53 | Nayon | you can still exclude the externals and have the libs in the addons folder standalone correct? |
| 15:46.32 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 15:47.05 | Nayon | I just hate having each and every addon with its own serpeate libs folder its repetative.. |
| 15:47.37 | sylvanaar | the thing is that we tell ppl to install SAL w/o externals or to intall w/ externals, and this is a hybrid case |
| 15:47.49 | Nayon | yea |
| 15:48.09 | sylvanaar | they should really install SAL w/ externals, then everything else without |
| 15:48.29 | [Ammo] | afternoon |
| 15:49.18 | Nayon | Everything comming with the externals just bumps the total volume of my addons folder, last time I tried to zip it and host if for a friend it was over 10mbs.. |
| 15:49.27 | TheKarn | sylvanaar, is your prat branch now in trunk? |
| 15:49.37 | sylvanaar | long since |
| 15:49.40 | TheKarn | ah |
| 15:49.43 | sylvanaar | why |
| 15:49.44 | TheKarn | i might upgrade to trunk then :P |
| 15:49.48 | sylvanaar | do |
| 15:50.13 | sylvanaar | its been updated alot since then |
| 15:50.16 | Nayon | Well off to class see yall in 8 hours.. |
| 15:50.48 | TheKarn | i seem to have a lot of errors thrown by carto atm |
| 15:51.33 | axxo | anyone tried postal or postman? |
| 15:51.50 | sylvanaar | i tried postal |
| 15:51.54 | axxo | any good? |
| 15:51.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Why isn't SpamSentry showing on WAU? |
| 15:52.04 | nee|lap | I have tried Postal and Postman, but stuck with Postal as it seemed to be the gmail replacement I was looking for |
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| 15:52.22 | Kirkburn|afk | In fact I know why it isn't showing - can someone fix it :) |
| 15:52.32 | nee|lap | Good question Kirkburn|afk, it was submitted this morning |
| 15:52.38 | Kirkburn|afk | it's within another folder |
| 15:52.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Needs to be brought up a level |
| 15:52.58 | axxo | much love for spamsentry |
| 15:53.04 | sylvanaar | Postal - seems ok - im not sure what it does |
| 15:53.14 | sylvanaar | the alt key to mail works |
| 15:53.23 | Kirkburn|afk | "darkimakuni * r25892 SpamSentry/SpamSentry/libs/ (13 files in 13 dirs):" |
| 15:53.42 | Kirkburn|afk | It shouldn't be within two folder =) |
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| 15:54.24 | sylvanaar | it has forward ability |
| 15:54.44 | sylvanaar | but it doesnt have a dropdown sender list or mass mail feature |
| 15:54.56 | nee|lap | Postal does |
| 15:55.03 | nee|lap | It has a dropdown list |
| 15:55.08 | TheKarn | the latest /files script didnt pull the latest tourist into the zip for cartographer |
| 15:55.10 | Kirkburn|afk | C'mon, someone volunteer to fix it pwetty pwease? =) |
| 15:55.12 | sylvanaar | not for me |
| 15:55.13 | nee|lap | As for a mass-mail feature, you can alt-leftclick items to send them |
| 15:55.21 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 15:55.24 | sylvanaar | that works |
| 15:55.43 | sylvanaar | bug i have to type the name of the sender once |
| 15:56.02 | sylvanaar | s/sender/recipeient/ |
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| 15:56.24 | nee|lap | I wish I could disable that popup list hough |
| 15:56.26 | nee|lap | *though |
| 15:56.30 | nee|lap | It gets in the way |
| 15:56.44 | sylvanaar | there isnt one for me |
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| 15:57.32 | nee|lap | odd. |
| 15:57.33 | doktoreas | is there a changelog for wowau? |
| 15:57.38 | break19 | nee|lap: yes I am |
| 15:57.40 | sdouble | I just started working on addons and the realms are down. How depressing. =[ |
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| 15:58.21 | nee|lap | break19: ? |
| 15:58.29 | nee|lap | break19: What are you? |
| 15:58.38 | sdouble | odd I believe |
| 15:58.45 | break19 | sdouble: is correct :p |
| 15:58.46 | nee|lap | Ah :) |
| 15:58.47 | dafire | CHAT_ADDON_MSG is getting really spammy nowadays |
| 15:59.01 | Antiarc|Work | As it should be! |
| 15:59.04 | Saroz | aye |
| 15:59.23 | TheKarn | sylvanaar, my timestamps arnt working in prat |
| 15:59.24 | break19 | I joined, and nee|lap said odd (i know, I missed the actual coversation, but it seemed.. appropriate anyway lol) |
| 15:59.31 | TheKarn | i'm just geting 15:01 |
| 15:59.59 | break19 | TheKarn: gack, a time-loop! |
| 16:00.47 | nee|lap | hehe |
| 16:01.04 | nee|lap | Ah, I meant it was odd that sylvanaar did not get a popup menu using Postal :) |
| 16:01.29 | break19 | hehe |
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| 16:01.52 | Antiarc|Work | Blar! |
| 16:02.05 | break19 | eeyargh! |
| 16:02.05 | Antiarc|Work | My router at home appears to be down, so I can't get to my svn server :( |
| 16:02.13 | break19 | doh |
| 16:02.14 | sylvanaar | Kirkburn|afk ok you want me to fix that |
| 16:02.16 | Antiarc|Work | I wanted to finish up CraftBot today. |
| 16:02.21 | Antiarc|Work | It's working and kicking ass. |
| 16:02.28 | Antiarc|Work | It's like EnchantList, except for all professions |
| 16:02.36 | Antiarc|Work | And it provides a materials list. |
| 16:02.48 | Antiarc|Work | And it uses ChatThrottleLib, so no need for the anti-spam timeout. |
| 16:02.51 | Kirkburn|afk | sylvanaar, please =) |
| 16:03.35 | break19 | Antiarc|Work: so, what does it share? |
| 16:03.38 | deltron | i need to start using enchantlist |
| 16:03.41 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r25900 10SpamSentry/ (32 files in 8 dirs): SpamSentry: Cross Fingers |
| 16:03.44 | TheKarn | sylvanaar, ignore what i said before, i had %H:%m instead of %H:%M |
| 16:03.50 | nee|lap | wow, less files :) |
| 16:03.54 | nee|lap | down from 59 |
| 16:04.03 | Antiarc|Work | break19: There's a module for each profession. Modules for profession you know are loaded. These provide commands that let other people query your tradeskills. |
| 16:04.05 | nee|lap | less dirs too, 8, down from 18 |
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| 16:04.15 | TheKarn | that just means 32 files where edited |
| 16:04.17 | break19 | Antiarc|Work: ahh, nice |
| 16:04.23 | nee|lap | oh |
| 16:04.26 | nee|lap | okay |
| 16:04.38 | Antiarc|Work | For example, I'm an engineering, and someone can "/t adrine !eng thorium grenade" and they get back "[Thorium Grenade] requires: 1x [Something], 2x [Something else]" |
| 16:04.57 | break19 | TheKarn: ah, a ubf error |
| 16:04.59 | Antiarc|Work | Or I can "/t delfina !alch healing" and get back a list of all the healing potions that Delfina can make. |
| 16:05.06 | Antiarc|Work | With material requirements. |
| 16:05.16 | Feldia | Antiarc|Work: that would be sweet if the average dumbass knew how to do it |
| 16:05.24 | break19 | Antiarc|Work: very interesting idea |
| 16:05.32 | Antiarc|Work | Feldia: You can /t adrine !list to get a list of commands that person provides. |
| 16:05.34 | Antiarc|Work | or !help |
| 16:05.44 | Antiarc|Work | It works with all professions, too. |
| 16:05.48 | Feldia | hurm |
| 16:06.01 | Antiarc|Work | I just hafta work out a few kinks and refactor some code. |
| 16:06.02 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r25901 10SpamSentry/SpamSentry/: |
| 16:06.02 | CIA-17 | SpamSentry |
| 16:06.02 | CIA-17 | Removed file/folder |
| 16:06.06 | Antiarc|Work | Additionally -- |
| 16:06.14 | break19 | heh, that didnt last long |
| 16:06.15 | Feldia | that could be sick for enchant selling |
| 16:06.17 | Feldia | if it's easy to use |
| 16:06.22 | Feldia | (for others) |
| 16:06.37 | Antiarc|Work | It listens on guild and custom channels, so if someone in guild or general says "!enchant crusader", they will receive whispers from everyone that sees that who can do the Crusader enchant. |
| 16:06.50 | sylvanaar | Kirkburn|afk awrite done |
| 16:07.14 | Antiarc|Work | If I want to know "who in the guild can do Crusader?" I just "/g !enchant crusader" |
| 16:07.19 | Kirkburn|afk | sylvanaar, awesome :D |
| 16:07.36 | Antiarc|Work | It's mostly not my idea - I took EnchantList's idea and expanded it |
| 16:07.39 | kenlyric | Antiarc|Work: ug! more !commands in guild chat? |
| 16:07.46 | kenlyric | diaf! |
| 16:07.54 | Antiarc|Work | kenlyric: Are you an enchanter? ;) |
| 16:08.02 | kenlyric | no, annoyed guild member. |
| 16:08.15 | Antiarc|Work | If not, then let me share the pain of "Hey, can you link Crusader mats to me for the billionth time today?" ;) |
| 16:08.22 | kenlyric | there was an auction mod that people abused in my guild. |
| 16:08.26 | sylvanaar | i remember this conversation a while ago |
| 16:08.32 | Feldia | Antiarc|Work: if people are using the commands and such do I get spammed with all of the messages? |
| 16:08.39 | Antiarc|Work | Feldia: No, replies are done via whisper. |
| 16:08.47 | kenlyric | Antiarc|Work: I'd rather those kind of commands be used through a /w |
| 16:08.57 | Feldia | well, lets say I'm the one theyre querying |
| 16:08.58 | kenlyric | which is what we eventually had to force for the auctioneer mod. |
| 16:09.22 | Antiarc|Work | kenlyric: They certainly can be used through /w. I just have it set up so they can also be used for other channels so that you can find people who can do the enchant. |
| 16:09.42 | Feldia | they ask for a list of my weapon enchants or whatever, do I see the whispers I'm sending them wiht all the shoulder enchants I can do? |
| 16:09.43 | Antiarc|Work | If I want to know the mats for X and I know Y does X, I can whisper Y. |
| 16:09.50 | Antiarc|Work | Feldia: No. |
| 16:09.51 | Feldia | err, weapon** |
| 16:09.53 | Feldia | k |
| 16:09.55 | Antiarc|Work | It's completely transparent to you. |
| 16:10.22 | Antiarc|Work | Since it uses ChatThrottleLib, there's no danger of them spam-disconnecting you, either. |
| 16:10.29 | Feldia | yea |
| 16:10.40 | Feldia | I think I'm gonna have to give that mod a shot :P |
| 16:10.45 | Feldia | if you need someone to test it lemme know |
| 16:10.57 | Feldia | ....once servers are back up that is |
| 16:11.16 | break19 | heh |
| 16:11.24 | Nayon | Is there an Ace replacement of Auctioneer? |
| 16:12.01 | nee|lap | kc_Items |
| 16:12.08 | Antiarc|Work | Feldia: As soon as I can get my router back online, I'll shoot a copy your way. It has a few bugs, but it's 90% operational. |
| 16:12.21 | Feldia | excellent |
| 16:12.27 | Antiarc|Work | Needs some heavy refactoring though. |
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| 16:14.55 | break19 | nee|lap: i've been curious about kc_items.. you know much of it? |
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| 16:15.11 | moonsorrow | Nickenyfiken: I am now |
| 16:15.20 | sdouble | yeah, I just looked it up on the site, there's pretty much no information about it |
| 16:15.45 | Adirelle|work | Antiarc|Work: WTB CraftBot |
| 16:15.49 | [dRaCo] | is there a way to use the item in a specific slot? |
| 16:15.53 | nee|lap | break19: Er, not that much, but please try me :) |
| 16:16.03 | break19 | the kinda info I'm interested in: efficiency compared to auctioneer |
| 16:16.08 | nee|lap | Ah.# |
| 16:16.16 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle|work: I will try to get a release out today! :) |
| 16:16.45 | nee|lap | Not a clue about that, though I know that Auctioneer still does more than kc_Items. kc_Items does not have bidbroker/percentless features, at least not in the sense that Auctioneer does, nor a bottomfeeder |
| 16:16.49 | break19 | lets say I only wanna use it for tooltips and auction prices, nothing else.. is it modular enough to disable the other modules to reduce memory footprint? |
| 16:17.09 | nee|lap | yes |
| 16:17.14 | nee|lap | It's completely modular |
| 16:17.18 | break19 | then goodbye auctioneer |
| 16:17.19 | break19 | heh |
| 16:17.25 | nee|lap | :) |
| 16:17.41 | Fisker- | sooo |
| 16:17.47 | Fisker- | i found this funny file on our schools network |
| 16:17.48 | Fisker- | http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/export_eucr.txt |
| 16:17.54 | Fisker- | Wonder if i can use that for anything good |
| 16:17.56 | Fisker- | *snickers* |
| 16:18.20 | nee|lap | :) |
| 16:18.56 | break19 | i'd been noticing it on the wau list... but the "this does most everything for items" made me think "gah.. memory hog" heh |
| 16:19.34 | break19 | also, since I could never get kc_mobility to work, I was scared to try another kc_xxx addon :p |
| 16:19.50 | nee|lap | :) |
| 16:20.34 | break19 | dragqueen is much better, imo for moving. just moves, doesnt save positions etc.. just drag the frame like you'd drag a window in the OS.. click and move. :p |
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| 16:22.04 | sylvanaar | wow we are getting patched |
| 16:22.13 | sylvanaar | i didnt know |
| 16:22.15 | hypetech | ya |
| 16:22.19 | hypetech | I just noticed that |
| 16:22.19 | sdouble | yeah |
| 16:22.22 | tale | small. just big enough to nerf hunters, mages and priests. |
| 16:22.25 | sylvanaar | update server is up |
| 16:22.34 | break19 | all fear tehpatcher |
| 16:22.35 | hypetech | where can I see the changelog? |
| 16:22.35 | Feldia | it's not much of a priest nerf |
| 16:22.47 | tale | nope, as a priest main i'm not bothered. |
| 16:22.53 | Feldia | same |
| 16:22.57 | Elkano | so 2.0.6 is coming this week? |
| 16:23.00 | Feldia | I'm happy to see hunters got nerfed |
| 16:23.02 | tale | it is out today |
| 16:23.03 | Feldia | 2.0.6 is coming today |
| 16:23.07 | sylvanaar | i enjoy hunter nerfs |
| 16:23.14 | Elkano | well, I'm on EU ^^ |
| 16:23.14 | Feldia | the mage nerfs are meh |
| 16:23.19 | sylvanaar | 2.0.6 is live |
| 16:23.51 | Adirelle|work | eeeh |
| 16:24.05 | Adirelle|work | when did the PTR get reopened ? |
| 16:24.10 | art3mis | not bothered?! how can you not be bothered by an obvious attempt to reduce damage priests do, why this is an outrage! |
| 16:24.18 | hypetech | where can you see notes on 2.0.6? |
| 16:24.26 | break19 | hypetech: by patching :p |
| 16:24.29 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@12-196-151-237.psknet.net) |
| 16:24.29 | Feldia | they should be on worldofraids |
| 16:24.38 | nee|lap | ;) |
| 16:24.46 | Adirelle|work | hypetech: or PTR notes too, on official website |
| 16:24.47 | nee|lap | Yea, people are going crazy all over the place.. |
| 16:25.01 | hypetech | Adirelle they don't have .6 yet on the official site |
| 16:25.12 | art3mis | just connect and download it ;P |
| 16:25.27 | hypetech | found it on wowinsider |
| 16:25.33 | nee|lap | hypetech: There are PTR notes on the official site. It's what he meant, and said. |
| 16:26.14 | hypetech | ya |
| 16:26.17 | hypetech | sorry >.< |
| 16:26.19 | break19 | nee|lap: need a disenchant predictor, easy on the memory.. fizzwidget has one... his stuff seems pretty well-coded.. maybe I'll grab it |
| 16:26.28 | hypetech | wow...mana shield will protect from magic damage now |
| 16:26.33 | sylvanaar | ok who knows some current dual-box mods |
| 16:26.36 | Adirelle|work | hypetech: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 16:26.37 | art3mis | thats craziness |
| 16:26.39 | nee|lap | break19: indeed. I recomend using that |
| 16:26.51 | nee|lap | break19: I use Linkerator too |
| 16:26.54 | break19 | nee|lap: yea.. I use his linkerator |
| 16:26.59 | break19 | heh |
| 16:27.00 | nee|lap | :) |
| 16:27.02 | nee|lap | hehe |
| 16:27.05 | nee|lap | get out of my head! :) |
| 16:27.05 | Xuerian | Oh yeah, it is patch day, isn't it. |
| 16:27.15 | break19 | and his feed-o-matic, and hunters-helper, and gemologist, and and and lol |
| 16:27.16 | nee|lap | uhoh |
| 16:27.20 | nee|lap | :) |
| 16:27.23 | art3mis | that would be like pw:shield protecting from falling damage which last time i checked was physical damage....what pw:shield is supposed to protect from ;P |
| 16:27.36 | sylvanaar | no |
| 16:27.51 | nee|lap | It protected from that a while ago though |
| 16:27.55 | Feldia | environmental |
| 16:27.56 | nee|lap | But not anymore |
| 16:27.57 | Feldia | not physical |
| 16:28.54 | Feldia | yea like..... 18 months ago |
| 16:28.54 | Feldia | I used to shield myself then drop down onto the ledge next to molten core |
| 16:28.54 | nee|lap | Let's get physical! So it helps you practice safe sex too |
| 16:28.54 | art3mis | and lets not forget that someone a hunter dot delivered by an arrow isn't physical damage as well cuz somehow the arrow becomes corpreal ;P |
| 16:28.54 | sylvanaar | rofl |
| 16:28.54 | hypetech | heh |
| 16:28.54 | art3mis | err someone==somehow |
| 16:28.54 | sylvanaar | thats cause you were a nub |
| 16:28.54 | nee|lap | someone is somehow? |
| 16:28.59 | art3mis | s/someone/somehow/g |
| 16:29.03 | art3mis | that better? |
| 16:29.13 | hypetech | what exactly is spell damage coefficient? |
| 16:29.15 | nee|lap | Nope |
| 16:29.24 | robotusch | and don't forget that priests are somehow more holy than paladins, given that they can now remove the gods' protection |
| 16:29.35 | Adirelle|work | art3mis: can't get a clue about what you meant :/ |
| 16:29.37 | art3mis | the word someone in my above phrase should be replaced to read somehow instead |
| 16:29.41 | sylvanaar | the % of spell damage thats applied |
| 16:29.49 | hypetech | I see |
| 16:30.09 | art3mis | thats because priests ARE gods ;) |
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| 16:30.15 | robotusch | (casttime / 3.5) * 100 = the % of spell dmg right? |
| 16:30.17 | art3mis | we do whatever we please |
| 16:30.43 | nee|lap | Unless we're out of mana. |
| 16:30.47 | sylvanaar | yeah for DD spells |
| 16:30.57 | art3mis | hehe yeah |
| 16:31.01 | robotusch | with a few exceptions ofc |
| 16:31.05 | tlund | [17:30] #wowace <robotusch> (casttime / 3.5) * 100 = the % of spell dmg right? |
| 16:31.07 | tlund | uhu? |
| 16:31.18 | art3mis | if we're outta mana we walking monster markers to show where the mobs are that others should attack ;) |
| 16:31.41 | nee|lap | Or we're walking target practice |
| 16:31.43 | tlund | robotusch: yes. |
| 16:31.48 | art3mis | that too |
| 16:32.08 | art3mis | then again the argument can be made that if we're out of mana we're not very good ;P |
| 16:32.13 | sylvanaar | my class is like the warlock class right after the death coil change |
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| 16:33.04 | art3mis | i feel so tough as a shadow priest |
| 16:33.12 | hypetech | I wish you could just direct download these patches somewhere instead of having to use their proprietary torrent system....or at least give me a general torrent |
| 16:33.13 | art3mis | level 62 and im at 404spell |
| 16:33.14 | hypetech | >.< |
| 16:33.26 | nee|lap | hypetech: you can. wowwiki.com |
| 16:33.26 | sylvanaar | shadow priests are fun |
| 16:33.29 | Xuerian | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ -- http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/patches/2.0.6/WoW-2.0.5.6320-to-2.0.6.6337-enUS-patch.exe] |
| 16:33.35 | Azurewrath | uhm.. i have 666 spelldmg.. :D |
| 16:33.42 | Xuerian | enGB doesn't exist. |
| 16:33.42 | Xuerian | <3 |
| 16:33.45 | robotusch | I have 4 :/ |
| 16:33.47 | art3mis | what level and are you a priest ;P |
| 16:33.59 | sylvanaar | me? |
| 16:34.17 | art3mis | azure |
| 16:34.35 | art3mis | but yeah whats yer +spell and level ;P |
| 16:34.59 | art3mis | i think im around 15% crit too |
| 16:35.07 | Azurewrath | 104 hitrating, ~22% crit, lvl 70. |
| 16:35.13 | art3mis | and somehow magically i have 24 to hit |
| 16:35.45 | art3mis | hehe just hit 62 first thing i did was run to zag for the pvp wand |
| 16:35.49 | art3mis | i love that thing |
| 16:35.52 | art3mis | 98.2 dps |
| 16:36.03 | art3mis | does 240-430 damage |
| 16:36.04 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 16:36.14 | sylvanaar | which one |
| 16:36.19 | sylvanaar | CSR |
| 16:36.23 | art3mis | incedric rod i believe |
| 16:36.29 | sylvanaar | psh |
| 16:36.36 | art3mis | err incendric |
| 16:36.38 | sylvanaar | CSR or VFW |
| 16:36.39 | Azurewrath | go for the Nesingwary Safari Stick.. 113.1 dps, +14 spelldmg and +12 critrating |
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| 16:36.46 | krynn | anyone know if there is a similar mod to RatingBuster thats Ace2 |
| 16:36.46 | art3mis | not high enough yet |
| 16:37.02 | Azurewrath | krynn: RatingBuster IS Ace2. |
| 16:37.06 | art3mis | my previous wand before the pvp one was the antennae from aq |
| 16:37.06 | krynn | it is? |
| 16:37.14 | krynn | im not finding it on wowace |
| 16:37.20 | Azurewrath | and? |
| 16:37.23 | KarlThePagan | inviggorating wand |
| 16:37.26 | Azurewrath | take a look at the libs dir |
| 16:37.27 | KarlThePagan | antenna |
| 16:37.28 | sylvanaar | calming spore reed is 100dps |
| 16:37.31 | sylvanaar | no? |
| 16:37.43 | sylvanaar | voidfire wand also |
| 16:37.47 | art3mis | so 57->98dps is pretty sweet ;P |
| 16:38.04 | art3mis | plus when im grinding a pw:shield a couple of dots and wand the thing to death |
| 16:38.18 | Feldia | there's a sick healing wand that drops in shadow labs |
| 16:38.30 | Feldia | I can't remmeber what it's called though :/ |
| 16:38.30 | art3mis | makes for a saftey net when i stand i a bad place heh |
| 16:38.39 | sylvanaar | i need the druid feral staff from nagrand |
| 16:38.46 | sylvanaar | how do you get that quest |
| 16:38.53 | art3mis | which? |
| 16:39.03 | art3mis | i "think" thats a reward from circle of blood |
| 16:39.06 | sylvanaar | blood |
| 16:39.08 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 16:39.09 | Azurewrath | art3mis: the lvl 70 Gladiators Wand has 161.8 dps |
| 16:39.25 | art3mis | go to the ogres nw of gar |
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| 16:39.32 | art3mis | at the far edge of the village is a pit |
| 16:39.38 | art3mis | that's circle of blood |
| 16:39.51 | sylvanaar | o |
| 16:39.53 | art3mis | also where the blue +160healing mace comes from |
| 16:39.53 | Feldia | you're gonna want 4 friends |
| 16:39.56 | art3mis | yes |
| 16:39.56 | break19 | from a logic standpoint, pvp gear is.. wrong. :p |
| 16:39.59 | Feldia | and don't start the quest unless you're ready to fight |
| 16:40.08 | art3mis | it's fun though |
| 16:40.14 | sylvanaar | i will bring guildies |
| 16:40.26 | break19 | "they're good at pvp, so lets give em gear to make em even better at it" heh |
| 16:40.28 | art3mis | the only thing that bugs me about that place is people that come over in the middle while you're doing the chain |
| 16:40.41 | Feldia | you get like 100k exp and 60-70 gold in like 15 minutes sylvanaar, it's sweet |
| 16:40.46 | Feldia | + a bunch of potiosn and the blue |
| 16:40.54 | sylvanaar | wow |
| 16:41.19 | sylvanaar | i went from main heal to main tank in the past week its been wierd |
| 16:41.27 | art3mis | yeah im not all that sure why pvp gear is so godly |
| 16:41.46 | KarlThePagan | longevity |
| 16:41.52 | art3mis | if you grind pvp constantly who cares if you get good gear |
| 16:41.55 | KarlThePagan | but it's irrelevent now |
| 16:42.00 | art3mis | its not like the other person isnt gonna get it too |
| 16:42.15 | art3mis | "but we dont raid" "and?" |
| 16:42.25 | Feldia | tha's the thing art3mis, not everyone does get it |
| 16:42.28 | art3mis | making the kpvp gea better than raid gear was a mistake from the start |
| 16:42.28 | Feldia | certainly not at the same rate |
| 16:42.29 | nee|lap | art3mis: Many do not care. They want the best stats to show to others. |
| 16:42.30 | snurre- | hm, cartographer didnt work very well atm |
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| 16:42.47 | KarlThePagan | us servers down |
| 16:42.55 | break19 | snurre-: works fine for me |
| 16:42.59 | art3mis | pvp gear would be fine if somehow magically damage from skills spells etc were scaled down in pvp |
| 16:43.11 | sylvanaar | snurre- you are always the bearer of bad tidings |
| 16:43.19 | snurre- | i never whine! |
| 16:43.21 | art3mis | like on a mob you do full spell damage, while against a player that damage is cut in half |
| 16:43.27 | snurre- | oh, its cause i dont have the new library i guess |
| 16:43.41 | art3mis | to make it more reasonable and so people arent getting one shotted and bitching about class balance |
| 16:43.54 | nee|lap | snurre-: Do you mean you are updating libraries manually / using standalonelibs? |
| 16:43.54 | Feldia | art3mis, that's what resilience and avoidance are for |
| 16:43.59 | art3mis | heh cart wouldnt even open for me yesterday |
| 16:44.12 | art3mis | yeah but you should have to scarfice states for res |
| 16:44.16 | art3mis | stats |
| 16:44.16 | shieldb | well, with all the massive +stam on the new gear, it helps a lot for that |
| 16:44.20 | snurre- | nee|lap: using standalones, yes |
| 16:44.23 | Feldia | you do |
| 16:44.25 | art3mis | im talking just asa flat rate type math dealie |
| 16:44.27 | Feldia | you sacrifice regen |
| 16:44.30 | Feldia | and +hit |
| 16:44.41 | shieldb | a friend of mine who plays a warrior has upgraded to mostly new outland blues/greens and he's up to 9.8k in dps gear |
| 16:44.49 | art3mis | player vs mob 100%dam, player vs player 60% dam |
| 16:44.50 | Feldia | "as a flat rate math dealie" you DO lose other stats |
| 16:44.51 | break19 | snurre-: your wau is broken no |
| 16:44.53 | break19 | w |
| 16:44.54 | Feldia | items only have a certain budget |
| 16:45.00 | break19 | snurre-: go get the latest version of it |
| 16:45.04 | snurre- | shouldnt be |
| 16:45.05 | art3mis | without having to get different gear i mean |
| 16:45.06 | Feldia | it's not like blizzard just decides "ok +50 to everything on this pvp gear" |
| 16:45.14 | nee|lap | snurre-: ok |
| 16:45.22 | break19 | pprovost broke it last night, wrt to SAL |
| 16:45.23 | art3mis | i know that |
| 16:45.36 | Feldia | art3mis, that would make pvp gear absolutely ridiculous in raids |
| 16:45.37 | break19 | he updated it tho |
| 16:45.41 | Feldia | because it would have so much more +damage |
| 16:45.49 | art3mis | im talking about things like a spell taht does 3k damage was made for mobs that have 15-800k |
| 16:45.58 | break19 | snurre-: which is why the wau beta is in the topic :p |
| 16:45.59 | Feldia | raiding gear woudl be less useful, and then raiding would be less fun |
| 16:46.10 | snurre- | break19: has nothing to do with wau |
| 16:46.14 | art3mis | and since players dont get all that high it seems rather retarded that the same spell would do the same amount of damage vs a player |
| 16:46.16 | snurre- | i just didnt have rollCall |
| 16:46.18 | snurre- | now it works |
| 16:46.19 | art3mis | you get what i meazn right? |
| 16:46.28 | Feldia | all I hear is QQ |
| 16:46.58 | nee|lap | What does QQ stand for? |
| 16:47.03 | nee|lap | I see it used a lot, i |
| 16:47.09 | nee|lap | it seems quite popular |
| 16:47.11 | art3mis | it means the person is whining |
| 16:47.14 | sylvanaar | noone is even sure what raids are going to be like |
| 16:47.14 | shieldb | QQ is supposed to be an emoticon for 'crying eyes' |
| 16:47.18 | break19 | crying.. tears |
| 16:47.20 | break19 | etc |
| 16:47.21 | Feldia | the way raid gear is currently being designed, yes they can probably 1 or 2 shot people in pvp |
| 16:47.24 | Feldia | but there's no stam or resilience |
| 16:47.25 | nee|lap | I see. |
| 16:47.25 | shieldb | the tails on the Qs are the tears, etc |
| 16:47.27 | sdouble | I always thought it was weird that mana shield didn't protect from magic |
| 16:47.29 | art3mis | whereas it just makes the person saying it seem more narrowminded towards certain topics ;P |
| 16:47.32 | Feldia | so they also get one shot by the kid in random greens / blues |
| 16:47.52 | snurre- | theyll oneshot the guy in greens first :p |
| 16:47.58 | nee|lap | Another 'cba' replacement then |
| 16:48.03 | Feldia | pretty sure you'll take turns at it |
| 16:48.03 | Feldia | but w/e |
| 16:48.14 | art3mis | skimming over the point of the debate in what i was trying to say |
| 16:48.19 | Feldia | though obviously a person in full raid gear is likely to be more "skilled" than a guy in greens and blues |
| 16:48.22 | art3mis | i sued to dot hat when i ran a godwars mud |
| 16:48.23 | Feldia | so you're probably right, snurre- |
| 16:48.26 | break19 | i do agree that dmg vs players should be reduced substantially... |
| 16:48.36 | art3mis | the damage that the players did to mobs was always higher than the damage dealt to people |
| 16:48.46 | art3mis | it made for a funner game |
| 16:48.58 | nee|lap | art3mis: Well, most of the users just seem to skim posts on the forums and if they see a lot of QQ's, they add theirs. Like with the /sign spam threads |
| 16:48.59 | break19 | art3mis: I think DAOC does that as well |
| 16:49.08 | art3mis | yeah nee |
| 16:49.14 | art3mis | it makes sense to me |
| 16:49.22 | art3mis | specially on a pvp realm |
| 16:50.16 | break19 | art3mis: tho, if they make that change -now- as opposed to having in the game from the start.. can you imagine the amount of crying? especially from high crit chars like mages and rogues? |
| 16:51.38 | Barbanus | why make you do less dmg? Just make players have on average lots more stam than mobs? Isnt that the same thing? |
| 16:51.40 | art3mis | oh god yeah |
| 16:51.48 | art3mis | not really barn |
| 16:51.58 | Barbanus | how so? |
| 16:52.00 | art3mis | think about how a 4khp mob now is a marginal challenge |
| 16:52.07 | Adirelle|work | Barbanus: not at all |
| 16:52.14 | art3mis | if they increased players hps along with thier powers |
| 16:52.24 | art3mis | they wopuld invariably have to make mobs tougher to equal the challenge |
| 16:52.26 | Adirelle|work | Barbanus: giving more health to PC will impact PvE AND PvP |
| 16:52.31 | art3mis | ive seent hat happen on muds a lot |
| 16:52.42 | break19 | Barbanus: if you increase player HP too much, then what'll be the point of needing raids to take down bosses, since the warrs have 10-15k hp |
| 16:52.44 | Barbanus | Adirelle, thats good point. |
| 16:52.47 | Barbanus | a* |
| 16:52.50 | sylvanaar | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.wow-europe.com/107652160.htm |
| 16:53.04 | Barbanus | break19, heh, well they already will .. but yea. |
| 16:53.05 | sylvanaar | LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOL |
| 16:53.16 | art3mis | instead of tailoring it towards a dual system, you wind up with basic mobs that have millions of hps to still remain a challenge to the powerful players in the curve |
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| 16:53.26 | robotusch | Anyone know if a fixed Prat has been uploaded? Been getting some startup errors with the last few revs |
| 16:53.34 | sbu | art3mis: lvl 64 and 414 +spelldmg, holy-specced-priest :p |
| 16:53.42 | art3mis | nice |
| 16:53.45 | sylvanaar | ~bugz |
| 16:53.46 | purl | it has been said that bugz is "Does this happen on the lastest version? What version are you using?" |
| 16:53.47 | nee|lap | No error here apart from the chat-button showing up |
| 16:53.48 | sbu | yeah it is... :) |
| 16:53.53 | break19 | sylvanaar: pwnd :p |
| 16:53.53 | Barbanus | sbu, hehe, my 64 paladin has 450 spell damage |
| 16:53.56 | art3mis | i LOVE that they finally made holy priests the undisputed gods of healing |
| 16:53.56 | sbu | and since surge of light is buggy |
| 16:54.06 | sbu | you can crit 3 times in a row for free + instant :p |
| 16:54.12 | Adirelle|work | sylvanaar: thx, will remember this one (~bugz) :) |
| 16:54.29 | sbu | trinket -> 1500 -> 1400 -> 1300, sw: death, mob down :p |
| 16:54.33 | art3mis | hahah |
| 16:54.34 | sbu | in <5s ;) |
| 16:55.01 | *** join/#wowace Jens (n=jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
| 16:55.10 | sbu | so no need to switch to shadow spec :) its already fun :) |
| 16:55.10 | art3mis | vt->pain->ve->mb->mf->mf->wand til dead. hp 98% mana 97% |
| 16:55.37 | art3mis | i do love having sw:death again though |
| 16:55.47 | sylvanaar | yeah its a cool spell |
| 16:55.49 | art3mis | havent had it hit less than 1k yet |
| 16:56.08 | sylvanaar | shadow priests play alot like warlocks . and no soul shards to manage |
| 16:56.10 | art3mis | its that "oh for gods sake just die already" spell |
| 16:56.17 | sbu | it's amazing to tag/pull mobs |
| 16:56.19 | art3mis | or a pet to tank ;P |
| 16:56.23 | Adirelle|work | question to US player: the servers went down for weekly maintenance or just another reason ? (in other words, 2.0.6 has been applied during maintenance or is it an hotfix ?) |
| 16:56.26 | sbu | instant, huge range, ... |
| 16:56.29 | Feldia | art3mis: sw:d is amazing |
| 16:56.31 | Feldia | I love it so much |
| 16:56.33 | kebinusan | yes we got 2.0.6 today |
| 16:56.35 | art3mis | pw:shiekld absorbs the damage too ;) |
| 16:56.38 | sbu | i want some sw:d counter |
| 16:56.44 | sbu | how much dmg i deal to myself |
| 16:56.45 | sylvanaar | its been applied during maintenance |
| 16:56.48 | Barbanus | Adirelle, patch |
| 16:56.48 | sbu | i think its like 100k / day :p |
| 16:56.52 | art3mis | hahahaha |
| 16:56.59 | art3mis | get someone to code it up |
| 16:57.06 | Feldia | yea I'm way too reckless with it as well |
| 16:57.07 | art3mis | or get swstats |
| 16:57.13 | kenlyric | sbu: yeah, I'm just happy to have an instant tagging spell finally, especialy with how camped everything is. |
| 16:57.18 | art3mis | and use the damage taken breakdown ;) |
| 16:57.22 | sbu | kenlyric: yah |
| 16:57.37 | sbu | art3mis: mhh yep, but i keep resetting it in instances |
| 16:57.42 | sbu | so no much use :( |
| 16:57.57 | sbu | wtb shadow fiend :p |
| 16:57.58 | sylvanaar | when you death yourself, you get "you are afflicted by sw:d" |
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| 16:58.38 | robotusch | Prat rev 25897 gives me an |
| 16:58.45 | kenlyric | I still haven't killed myself with it, though close some times. |
| 16:58.45 | robotusch | argh, i'll try again |
| 16:58.53 | art3mis | error error danger will robinson error |
| 16:58.59 | kenlyric | hate hate hate when it hits for min damage, because I cast it a little above that. |
| 16:59.02 | sbu | but surge of light is sooo nice |
| 16:59.09 | art3mis | it used to be REALLY buggy |
| 16:59.18 | art3mis | like oproc off everything out of combat |
| 16:59.20 | Adirelle|work | hehe, our guild plans a raid on Naxx the next week, just for fun |
| 16:59.22 | Feldia | I thought surge of light was broken right now |
| 16:59.26 | Feldia | and consuming mana |
| 16:59.26 | art3mis | and like 1% chance in combat |
| 16:59.42 | sbu | hm no, but it can also proc to crits :o |
| 16:59.45 | sbu | and then proc again |
| 16:59.48 | art3mis | and it would proc off inner focus and martyr procs too |
| 16:59.51 | sbu | thats some nice 'broken' thing :p |
| 17:00.27 | art3mis | i think the disc tree got hosed again |
| 17:00.35 | Adirelle|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.37 | art3mis | cept for the imp spirit |
| 17:00.40 | Adirelle|work | erf |
| 17:00.57 | sbu | well thats my final lvl 70 spec ;o |
| 17:01.01 | art3mis | a 42 point disc makes me sad |
| 17:01.04 | sbu | disc till imp spirit, rest holy |
| 17:01.38 | art3mis | heh shadow til i have everything then dump the rest of the crap into disc with 3 in imp renew |
| 17:02.02 | art3mis | for those times when im forced to play triage priest |
| 17:02.30 | art3mis | i'd love to see pw:shield scaled properly too |
| 17:02.42 | art3mis | somehow 1k damage absorb just doesnt sem to cut it |
| 17:02.44 | CIA-17 | 03anea * r25902 10SpamSentry/SpamSentry_Titan/: |
| 17:02.44 | CIA-17 | SpamSentry: |
| 17:02.44 | CIA-17 | - Titan module should be in seperate folder or won't work. Deleting it as no-one on wow-ace will be using it anyway. |
| 17:03.06 | art3mis | and that extra 162hp absorb for 3 points is sorta lame |
| 17:03.30 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r25903 10Prat/modules/ChatLangButton.lua: Prat: All contributed modules must be off by default. Please remember this in the future. |
| 17:03.36 | break19 | titan module??!? DIE HERETIC! |
| 17:04.15 | break19 | you SHALL be PURGED! |
| 17:04.22 | break19 | heh |
| 17:05.04 | sylvanaar | yeah, i didnt touch the titan module lol |
| 17:05.09 | art3mis | thats the best "update" ive seen yet |
| 17:05.09 | break19 | lol |
| 17:05.35 | art3mis | hey syl |
| 17:05.50 | art3mis | any chance of getting a "show tabs" option in the main prat menu? |
| 17:06.00 | art3mis | if the mod is enabled that is |
| 17:06.06 | break19 | now if i could find someone to "translate" healbot_titan to heabot_fu, I'd be in some serious hog heaven.... |
| 17:06.19 | sylvanaar | well, theres a favorites menu |
| 17:06.29 | vith_ | oh my, US servers coming back up! |
| 17:06.36 | break19 | woot |
| 17:06.39 | art3mis | gasp! |
| 17:06.43 | art3mis | ahead of schedule? |
| 17:06.49 | vith_ | wait |
| 17:06.50 | art3mis | they must be fake highjacked servers |
| 17:06.50 | vith_ | lol. |
| 17:06.54 | vith_ | now they're back down |
| 17:07.03 | *** join/#wowace Teazle (n=Teazle@h210n2fls34o829.telia.com) |
| 17:07.06 | break19 | quit teasing me bliz! |
| 17:07.24 | sylvanaar | lies |
| 17:07.27 | break19 | work didnt call yesterday.. so I dont work today. :/ |
| 17:07.35 | *** join/#wowace Shyva (n=n0time@sd511586e.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 17:08.05 | sylvanaar | art3mis is the favorites thing not enough? |
| 17:08.10 | art3mis | i think i'd love a complete chat winder replacement |
| 17:08.17 | break19 | i need to work.. pays the wow accounts |
| 17:08.18 | art3mis | i never even noticed it |
| 17:08.26 | sylvanaar | ^.^ |
| 17:08.27 | art3mis | that should be okay i guess |
| 17:08.46 | art3mis | mainly its for missed whispers sice i have multipl windows overlapped |
| 17:08.51 | break19 | and the internet bill.. and the power bill.. etc |
| 17:08.56 | art3mis | and only the channels are in the forefront |
| 17:09.03 | art3mis | and yes i know about whisperfu |
| 17:09.10 | sylvanaar | i have been using WIM |
| 17:09.12 | art3mis | i usually miss one when i purge the whispers ;P |
| 17:09.13 | break19 | heyfu |
| 17:09.25 | break19 | heyfu > whisperfu :p |
| 17:09.30 | vith_ | oh umm.. is there some known bug (maybe in Prat) that's been hiding my combat log and resetting the font/background/location of my main chat window every time i start wow? |
| 17:09.33 | art3mis | oh? |
| 17:09.40 | sylvanaar | not prat |
| 17:09.41 | art3mis | 2whats heyfu do? same sorta dealie? |
| 17:09.51 | break19 | art3mis: yea |
| 17:10.01 | sylvanaar | auto join guild recruitment channel = false |
| 17:10.02 | vith_ | alright. i'll have to try to narrow it down once my server is back up |
| 17:10.09 | vith_ | just started yesterday |
| 17:10.11 | break19 | but it actually worked for me when I used it, where-as whisperfu bugged out :) |
| 17:10.21 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg |
| 17:10.24 | art3mis | ^^ sexy |
| 17:10.28 | sylvanaar | vith_ see what i said |
| 17:10.44 | vith_ | oh |
| 17:10.56 | art3mis | although i might ahve to go with zomgpanels |
| 17:11.00 | art3mis | instead of eepanels |
| 17:11.03 | *** join/#wowace godsyn (n=godsyn@c-68-59-211-72.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 17:11.08 | _neuron_ | hmm, does fubar plugins attached to the minimap not store their position? |
| 17:11.09 | art3mis | since zomg scales and ee is absolute |
| 17:11.14 | sylvanaar | ok, i need to find a whisper tracker for prat - complete with author |
| 17:11.40 | break19 | sylvanaar: heh |
| 17:11.49 | inph | art3mis grid > smart buff |
| 17:11.54 | sylvanaar | well, i can just copy someones |
| 17:11.56 | art3mis | nah i dont like grid |
| 17:12.02 | art3mis | i ahve clique |
| 17:12.06 | break19 | sylvanaar: copy ck's :p |
| 17:12.11 | art3mis | and its not like im doing 40mans anymore ;P |
| 17:12.17 | sylvanaar | he has a whisper traacker? |
| 17:12.24 | inph | you dispel in av! |
| 17:12.26 | break19 | heyfu is his iirc |
| 17:12.36 | sylvanaar | o |
| 17:12.40 | art3mis | im a shadow priest i dont dispel or heal anyone(barely myself) in av ;P |
| 17:12.53 | sylvanaar | playstyle |
| 17:12.55 | godsyn | "Improved the robustness of the pet action bar display. It is now less likely to be accidentally blocked by addons." can be translated to "We fixed our bug, and we'll stop blocking addons as much", right? |
| 17:13.01 | break19 | woot |
| 17:13.10 | sylvanaar | i dispell like mad in av its fun |
| 17:13.21 | art3mis | hehe perverted game of whack a mole |
| 17:13.25 | sylvanaar | no |
| 17:13.31 | sylvanaar | offensive |
| 17:13.34 | art3mis | someoen for rdx actually made little mole icons for it |
| 17:13.42 | sylvanaar | purge |
| 17:13.44 | art3mis | it was kinna funny |
| 17:13.56 | sylvanaar | o |
| 17:14.03 | kenlyric | art3mis: yeah, I used that for a while. Awesome good fun. |
| 17:14.05 | sylvanaar | when i was a tree |
| 17:14.27 | art3mis | rdx was super nice in 1.0 |
| 17:14.28 | break19 | no.. heyfu is wobin's |
| 17:14.31 | sylvanaar | most av's i had 5-10x the healing done of the #2 healer |
| 17:14.39 | art3mis | then he started charging and it got all bloaty |
| 17:14.58 | art3mis | ToL is amazing |
| 17:15.02 | art3mis | i love that spec |
| 17:15.13 | sylvanaar | me too |
| 17:15.16 | art3mis | RDX.Cid is nice |
| 17:15.25 | sylvanaar | now im mangle spec |
| 17:15.32 | art3mis | but again its getting kind of bloaty and isnt really needed 60-> |
| 17:15.44 | Azurewrath | Gamefaq|afk: mhm.. i'm getting babble errors for "Wälder of Terokkar", caused by guildies using the deDE Client.. but i checked the translations and it seems to be correct.. any idea? |
| 17:15.50 | break19 | yea, sylvanaar my wife is feral, and loves it |
| 17:15.54 | Azurewrath | Gamefaq|afk: with cartographer btw. |
| 17:16.00 | art3mis | to win at tbc all you need is a afflic loc a mangle druid and a shdaow priest |
| 17:16.13 | sylvanaar | guess what |
| 17:16.19 | sylvanaar | i am all 3 |
| 17:16.25 | art3mis | well arent you just sexy |
| 17:16.28 | sylvanaar | no joke |
| 17:16.32 | _neuron_ | hehe me too :P |
| 17:16.33 | art3mis | hehe wierdo |
| 17:16.38 | sylvanaar | those are my 3 toons |
| 17:16.41 | break19 | lol |
| 17:16.44 | _neuron_ | druid is level 44 atm though, but I'm playing that a lot atm :P |
| 17:16.50 | art3mis | it also conisides with those people the only 3 classes that are any good ;P |
| 17:17.03 | art3mis | -people |
| 17:17.15 | sylvanaar | hm> |
| 17:17.34 | art3mis | i only have a priest |
| 17:17.34 | sylvanaar | my first toon was warlock |
| 17:17.40 | art3mis | no alts |
| 17:17.42 | sylvanaar | then druid |
| 17:17.44 | sylvanaar | then priest |
| 17:17.50 | sdouble | I have one of each on my realm |
| 17:17.50 | sdouble | heh |
| 17:17.50 | art3mis | cant stand the idea of repeating allt hat crap over again |
| 17:17.51 | _neuron_ | so much fun |
| 17:17.51 | Feldia | art3mis: me too |
| 17:18.04 | sylvanaar | the priest was an alt for 29 bgs |
| 17:18.14 | godsyn | sylvanaar : how long ago? |
| 17:18.14 | art3mis | hehe i lurv mah priest |
| 17:18.26 | sylvanaar | i changed from warlock to druid 1 year ago |
| 17:18.28 | Azurewrath | i have a lvl 34 or something Warlock.. but i hate alts in some way.. makes no fun. I love my Mage. :) |
| 17:18.29 | Feldia | what I really want to do is level a druid |
| 17:18.31 | Feldia | for herbing |
| 17:18.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Weird, still no SpamSentry on /files |
| 17:18.57 | shieldb | I need to level a guy for mining so I'm not so dependant on others for jewelcrafting myself |
| 17:18.58 | break19 | i have 61hunter(bm), 43war(arms/fury hybrid), 21 holy priest on ally, 23feral druid, 22 aff lock, 19 as rogue on horde. |
| 17:19.00 | nee|lap | Priest and Druid here |
| 17:19.03 | sylvanaar | then leveled my 29 twink priest in my spare time |
| 17:19.17 | Feldia | i have a 44 UD priest and a 70 nelf priest |
| 17:19.17 | godsyn | sylvanaar : how long ago did you create your lock? |
| 17:19.18 | Feldia | and that's it |
| 17:19.18 | art3mis | i idled at Vi'el when i got bored |
| 17:19.24 | sylvanaar | 2 years |
| 17:19.32 | art3mis | and made a tidy profit from mooncloth and gromsblood |
| 17:19.39 | sylvanaar | 1.2 |
| 17:19.39 | *** join/#wowace cali (n=cali@p54A36B60.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:19.45 | godsyn | pre Searing gorge flight path? |
| 17:19.48 | art3mis | i didnt start til 1.5 |
| 17:19.50 | art3mis | err 1.4 |
| 17:20.08 | art3mis | first char was a priest |
| 17:20.13 | sylvanaar | i dont know because i was a clueless noob |
| 17:20.15 | art3mis | second char to play with wife was a priest |
| 17:20.27 | art3mis | second char became main |
| 17:20.33 | art3mis | first char got delted ;P |
| 17:20.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Err, why is svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/SpamSentry still showing me the old version? :/ |
| 17:21.01 | art3mis | becuase you didnt feed baby jesus this morning |
| 17:21.04 | sylvanaar | yeah, i roll an UD lock first, then my friend started to play and i rolled a human one |
| 17:21.17 | Neebler | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4961026069255029639&q=70+DPS&hl=en |
| 17:21.21 | Neebler | skip the intro |
| 17:22.00 | durcyn | Kirkburn|afk: check it on svn1.wowace.com, svnsync could be horked still |
| 17:22.26 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@c85-196-101-98.static.sdsl.no) |
| 17:22.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Both are showing revision 25873 for me |
| 17:22.41 | Kirkburn|afk | 25903 is latest |
| 17:23.34 | sylvanaar | its just like that |
| 17:23.44 | sylvanaar | patience young padawan |
| 17:23.54 | art3mis | hrm |
| 17:24.02 | art3mis | should clearfonts really be in the svn? |
| 17:24.09 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 17:24.25 | art3mis | particuarly without a readme saying "dont forget to move these into you'r wow\fonts\ folder? |
| 17:24.26 | vhaarr | If it wasn't supposed to be there, you'd think we'd remove it. |
| 17:24.42 | kenlyric | EVERYTHING should be in the SVN, even it's not Ace ;) |
| 17:24.50 | art3mis | too many addons without command readmes ;P |
| 17:24.54 | art3mis | haha ken |
| 17:25.04 | kenlyric | art3mis: what? the mod works fine just installing it. |
| 17:25.34 | art3mis | mine didnt |
| 17:25.39 | art3mis | until i moved the fonts |
| 17:25.46 | art3mis | then it applied it all correctly |
| 17:25.47 | *** join/#wowace xyu` (i=blahblah@218-170-96-178.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 17:25.48 | sylvanaar | true story |
| 17:25.56 | Kirkburn|afk | That part is optional |
| 17:26.06 | art3mis | laugh |
| 17:26.10 | kenlyric | it won't work for the login screen without moving the fonts, but it should work for everything in game |
| 17:26.16 | art3mis | it doesnt |
| 17:26.21 | Kirkburn|afk | sylvanaar, it's not fast enough! :( /me cries all the way home |
| 17:26.24 | art3mis | it misses a lot of system and addon changes |
| 17:26.28 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 17:26.30 | art3mis | unless you move em |
| 17:26.34 | art3mis | ingame i mean |
| 17:26.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Y'know, I haven't checked the fonts.xml file recently, it is true |
| 17:26.45 | sylvanaar | cf or cf2? |
| 17:26.45 | kenlyric | well, II only had it on for 10 minutes. I don't really like the font. |
| 17:26.52 | art3mis | heh |
| 17:26.57 | art3mis | i miss sexyfonts |
| 17:27.02 | art3mis | those were nice fonts |
| 17:27.02 | kenlyric | or, more correctly, I'm just fine with the default font. |
| 17:27.10 | art3mis | i use really tiny fonts |
| 17:27.16 | art3mis | clearfont makes them readable |
| 17:27.18 | sylvanaar | i use big ones |
| 17:27.22 | art3mis | thats really the only reason i use it |
| 17:27.22 | xyu` | Hey can i ask a simple, noob question about libs? |
| 17:27.28 | art3mis | sure |
| 17:27.34 | art3mis | we will prolly mock you though |
| 17:27.39 | art3mis | at least ken will |
| 17:27.41 | break19 | indeed |
| 17:27.41 | xyu` | that's fine |
| 17:27.43 | art3mis | cuz he's kind of a jerk |
| 17:27.56 | kenlyric | I use tiny fonts, but they're only unreadable when they are red (questfu) |
| 17:28.15 | xyu` | in my addons/libs folder can i delete the ones i dont have? like grid for example will have "Dewdrop-2.0" and i dont use it. in order to reduce the size of the addon can i delete this folder? |
| 17:28.17 | kenlyric | I am always nice. I don't know enough about coding to mock you. |
| 17:28.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Now there's a thing, I am missing some fonts.xml changes |
| 17:28.20 | xyu` | or is it "used" somehow |
| 17:28.31 | sylvanaar | no |
| 17:28.36 | break19 | xyu`: generally, if it's in the libs folder, it's used. |
| 17:28.37 | art3mis | you can rm them |
| 17:28.43 | art3mis | if you're using externals |
| 17:28.50 | xyu` | i'm using externals |
| 17:28.54 | break19 | then yes |
| 17:28.56 | art3mis | err not using externals |
| 17:29.03 | durcyn | standalone libs != externals |
| 17:29.05 | art3mis | bad wording |
| 17:29.13 | xyu` | ok. so to be safe, keep'm? |
| 17:29.21 | Kirkburn|afk | I need a copy of the latest fonts.xml! |
| 17:29.21 | sylvanaar | no no no, dont remove them unless you understand why they are there |
| 17:29.22 | art3mis | its not that big of a space thing |
| 17:29.22 | break19 | that'd be my solution |
| 17:29.28 | art3mis | i'd leave em |
| 17:29.40 | Bruners | is it possible to import/export notes with cartographer? |
| 17:29.45 | xyu` | ok thanks. I eventually want to learn how to not use externals ^^ |
| 17:29.48 | durcyn | xyu`: you can use either OptioanlDeps or Libs for libraries. removing one should lower load time in most cases. |
| 17:29.49 | art3mis | should be |
| 17:29.52 | xyu` | but this was my first step into making my addons as small as possible |
| 17:29.55 | durcyn | OptionalDeps even |
| 17:29.56 | Bruners | the send wia party feature dont work that well |
| 17:29.59 | sylvanaar | use WAU 1.7 - does it for you |
| 17:30.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Has anyone a copy of the latest fonts.xml? :) |
| 17:30.19 | xyu` | durcyn, yeah i'm just not sure how yet ^_^ |
| 17:30.28 | xyu` | like if i want to update the addon w/o breaking it. |
| 17:30.29 | art3mis | oo 1.7 is out? |
| 17:30.30 | xyu` | i'll learn tho |
| 17:31.04 | sylvanaar | and i was upset to learn today, that when updating the libraries that make up SAL those need to be updated WITH externals |
| 17:31.17 | xyu` | i just got into TortoiseSVN today. neat stuff |
| 17:31.23 | break19 | sylvanaar: that makes no sense.. heh |
| 17:31.49 | sylvanaar | i gotta fix wau so it does that |
| 17:31.55 | [dRaCo] | Anyone familiar with msbt? |
| 17:32.14 | break19 | sylvanaar: wont help those of us that cant use it :/ |
| 17:32.33 | art3mis | i'd love wowace to be sorted by addon type and by author ;P |
| 17:32.41 | art3mis | so i can search wau easier ;P |
| 17:32.45 | xyu` | [01:29:40] <Bruners> is it possible to import/export notes with cartographer? something like this? http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Cartographer_Import/ |
| 17:32.46 | art3mis | <--lazy |
| 17:32.59 | sylvanaar | wau isnt a browsing tool |
| 17:33.13 | break19 | xyu`: import module is badly outdated.. |
| 17:33.25 | xyu` | yea :/ |
| 17:34.06 | art3mis | it is for me ;P |
| 17:34.11 | break19 | xyu`: it doesnt work with the new post2.0 betas of gatherer, only the previous ones, which, if you've alrdy upgrade to the new one (without saving your SV file) you cant revert |
| 17:34.12 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 17:34.18 | art3mis | wau is less clicks to find an addon than the site is ;P |
| 17:34.19 | sylvanaar | me too |
| 17:34.55 | art3mis | and while i love that they amde an interface for the svn(sorta) |
| 17:35.08 | art3mis | those above feature would make oh for perfect |
| 17:35.25 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 17:35.28 | sylvanaar | <--- lazy |
| 17:35.34 | art3mis | along with a 15 lashes with a wet noodle for all authors that dont include readme's with the commands available ;) |
| 17:35.46 | xyu` | here here! |
| 17:35.50 | sylvanaar | you dont need a readme |
| 17:36.02 | art3mis | hehe kc_mobility is an awesome example of that |
| 17:36.09 | kenlyric | speaking of lazy, I finally got to use that fasttap thing for my amex card at mcdonald's. |
| 17:36.09 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.17 | kenlyric | didn't even have to take the card out of my wallet! |
| 17:36.21 | art3mis | if you couldnt read code you'd never know the keys to use to move stuff |
| 17:36.24 | xyu` | fasttap? what's that |
| 17:36.38 | art3mis | hehe yeah me too |
| 17:36.40 | art3mis | it's great |
| 17:36.51 | kenlyric | art3mis: that's why everything plugs into fubar :) |
| 17:36.53 | art3mis | ir card scanner |
| 17:36.56 | xyu` | like those cards at the gas pumps? |
| 17:37.02 | art3mis | hehe yeah but mobility does plugin |
| 17:37.03 | xyu` | its a credit card tho? |
| 17:37.05 | sylvanaar | smartcards |
| 17:37.08 | art3mis | however there arent any options for it |
| 17:37.21 | kenlyric | they need to implant it in my skin. I saw that on CSI miami and wanted to know why I didn't have one. |
| 17:37.30 | art3mis | because its just hover mouse press shift-ctrl-alt then move window |
| 17:37.42 | godsyn | xyu : http://www.meijer.com/creditcard/images/ftap_right.jpg |
| 17:37.48 | art3mis | hehe hand implant would be bad |
| 17:37.59 | xyu` | oh those are old as hell |
| 17:38.03 | art3mis | wandering by reach for gum near it , pay for someone elses stuff |
| 17:38.37 | durcyn | egads, they're already doing RFID for credit cards? get ready to have your wallet hacked. |
| 17:38.56 | deltron | durcyn: for a while now |
| 17:39.00 | sylvanaar | its alot different than rfid |
| 17:39.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh ffs, why can't I reach the Blizz website |
| 17:39.19 | art3mis | because its patch day |
| 17:39.26 | xyu` | and maint. day |
| 17:39.38 | art3mis | and those 3million people that cant get on thier characters are trolling the forums |
| 17:39.41 | xyu` | and mage buff / hunter nerf day |
| 17:39.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Argh |
| 17:39.43 | xyu` | 3 cheers |
| 17:39.52 | break19 | durcyn: the CC companies are liable if your id is stolen from their stuff.. unlike checks.. someone gets your CC, you dont owe a thing other than some headaches.. someone steals your checkbook, you could go to jail for writing bad checks. |
| 17:40.08 | break19 | my server seems to be u |
| 17:40.10 | break19 | up* |
| 17:40.16 | xyu` | people still use checks? |
| 17:40.20 | art3mis | i do |
| 17:40.21 | break19 | but stuck on retreving character list |
| 17:40.22 | xyu` | i didn't know they existed anymore |
| 17:40.23 | xyu` | why? |
| 17:40.24 | break19 | there it does |
| 17:40.25 | art3mis | well my business does |
| 17:40.25 | CIA-17 | 03kirkburn * r25904 10ClearFont2/Design.lua: ClearFont2: Fixed an incorrect line |
| 17:40.33 | art3mis | for renty |
| 17:40.41 | art3mis | and security deposits |
| 17:40.43 | Jens | http://www.xkcd.com/c208.html <-- A funnay! |
| 17:40.49 | break19 | yep, my server is up |
| 17:41.00 | godsyn | "FastTAP technology uses the latest radio frequency technology to send card information to the card reader." sounds like rfid to me.... |
| 17:41.02 | art3mis | if youpalce an order with cheque you can place the date itll be released as well as cancel it easily |
| 17:41.24 | art3mis | if you do it with cc the money goes out right away and its a bit more of a pain to get it reversed |
| 17:41.29 | xyu` | pft. |
| 17:41.33 | xyu` | Hong kong has been using this shit for years |
| 17:41.34 | art3mis | cheques in business are a good thing |
| 17:41.35 | xyu` | 10 years in fact. |
| 17:41.37 | xyu` | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus_card |
| 17:41.42 | art3mis | in america ;P |
| 17:41.46 | *** join/#wowace ven (i=ven@i59F57162.versanet.de) |
| 17:41.48 | kenlyric | godsyn: yes, that's pretty much exactly what it is. |
| 17:41.52 | art3mis | cuz not every business has a PoS machine |
| 17:42.23 | break19 | point-of-sale CC machines are expensive for a 1man small business to get.. easier for him to take a chance on a check |
| 17:42.25 | art3mis | i speak from a consulting point btw ;P |
| 17:42.31 | sylvanaar | looks like minor changes to the framexml |
| 17:42.48 | art3mis | Kirkburn|afk: fixed the need to use the fonts folder? |
| 17:42.59 | Kirkburn|afk | What? |
| 17:43.10 | art3mis | kirkburn * r25904 ClearFont2/Design.lua: ClearFont2: Fixed an incorrect line |
| 17:44.19 | Kirkburn|afk | It fixed the PVPInfoText line, but I don't know of things being missed |
| 17:44.58 | *** join/#wowace chuckg (i=chuckg@66-237-5-116.starstream.net) |
| 17:45.11 | Kirkburn|afk | I do know of one problem though - the font scaling not working properly |
| 17:45.24 | [ND] | who is able to update babblelib? and not afk J;) |
| 17:46.14 | sylvanaar | it fixed the target frame for raid memebers |
| 17:46.17 | break19 | wait, so kci hasnt been updated to ace2 yet?? |
| 17:46.31 | nee|lap | nope |
| 17:46.35 | break19 | hm k |
| 17:46.35 | *** part/#wowace Xolan (n=Xolan@217-104-65.521110.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 17:47.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyone who uses ClearFont2, can you tell me if font scaling works? |
| 17:48.08 | art3mis | once its up shore |
| 17:48.30 | sylvanaar | PAB is fixed |
| 17:48.40 | Kirkburn|afk | No, any version from the last month, does it work? |
| 17:48.57 | sylvanaar | it does sorta |
| 17:49.08 | art3mis | oh yeah it does |
| 17:49.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Sorta? |
| 17:49.14 | art3mis | it behaves wierd until a relog |
| 17:49.20 | sylvanaar | not everywhere |
| 17:49.21 | art3mis | but it works on a fresh load |
| 17:49.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Does it work only on addons? |
| 17:49.34 | art3mis | and it does miss a couple of places... |
| 17:49.40 | art3mis | umm no |
| 17:49.51 | break19 | nee|lap: does it use fubar at least? |
| 17:49.54 | sylvanaar | it does miss some plaes |
| 17:49.58 | art3mis | it catches a few of the system fonts like that damage, scrolling text (not sct) |
| 17:49.59 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 17:50.10 | art3mis | it catches un modded channels |
| 17:50.25 | art3mis | it doesnt catch errorlog |
| 17:50.43 | nee|lap | break19: there is a fubar plugin yes |
| 17:50.46 | art3mis | it scales wierdly with fubar |
| 17:50.47 | break19 | k |
| 17:50.59 | Kirkburn|afk | hrm |
| 17:51.02 | sylvanaar | cf1 seemed to get cover more of the locations |
| 17:51.13 | art3mis | like the generic setting without picking a new font size makes my fu_names appear large |
| 17:51.25 | art3mis | jsut on the "show text" enabled addons |
| 17:51.44 | art3mis | and i dont think that it catches questfu |
| 17:51.47 | break19 | i thought garbagefu supported kci vendor pricing? |
| 17:51.49 | sylvanaar | omg |
| 17:51.50 | art3mis | but im not entirely sure on that |
| 17:51.53 | sylvanaar | qeustfu |
| 17:51.56 | Kirkburn|afk | sylvanaar, that would be because the WoW/Fonts thing isn't in ClearFont2 |
| 17:52.27 | sylvanaar | HERE IS MY QUEST ............. (Those were the objectives) |
| 17:52.32 | Kirkburn|afk | See, something I'm finding - I don't get an SV file :/ |
| 17:52.43 | art3mis | however once you move the fonts into the font folder the only thing that messes up is questfu and its advesion to being a normal readable size without modification ;P |
| 17:52.57 | sylvanaar | servers up |
| 17:53.11 | break19 | been up :p |
| 17:53.20 | sylvanaar | i hate you |
| 17:53.40 | break19 | heh |
| 17:53.46 | break19 | i said they were up a while back :p |
| 17:53.54 | *** join/#wowace Rashomon (n=Rashomon@81-232-62-22-no42.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 17:54.15 | sylvanaar | but they were in fact not |
| 17:54.15 | break19 | while we were talking about fast tap cards |
| 17:54.19 | break19 | mine was :) |
| 17:55.15 | sylvanaar | I need a followme mod or some 2box mods |
| 17:57.48 | art3mis | i need a quest item box thats seperate from the bags mods |
| 17:58.02 | Antiarc|Work | Sanity -> search "quest" :) |
| 17:58.03 | art3mis | sort of a quest item autobar type thingy |
| 17:58.25 | art3mis | non thats on my screen at all times and isnt as annoying as sanity |
| 17:58.33 | kenlyric | can you make baggins bags stay open all the time? |
| 17:58.41 | OvrLrd-Q | grrr |
| 17:58.52 | art3mis | you can sorta |
| 17:58.58 | Antiarc|Work | What annoys you about Sanity, out of curiosity? |
| 17:59.12 | art3mis | however for some reason sicne my recent update of baggins it refuses to stay put even when manual and locked |
| 17:59.23 | art3mis | lack of documentation/menu options |
| 17:59.28 | art3mis | ingame that is |
| 17:59.37 | art3mis | im sure if i checked the wiki it would answer all |
| 17:59.44 | art3mis | but thts inconvient ingame ;P |
| 17:59.48 | Antiarc|Work | Click the red question mark in the bottom right corner. :P |
| 17:59.53 | Antiarc|Work | No doc, but an asston of options. |
| 18:00.07 | CIA-17 | 03anea * r25905 10SpamSentry/ (14 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:00.07 | CIA-17 | SpamSentry: |
| 18:00.07 | CIA-17 | - Fixed error with garbage collection |
| 18:00.07 | CIA-17 | - Added feedback function |
| 18:00.10 | art3mis | okies ill give it a shot again ;P |
| 18:00.52 | OvrLrd-Q | i'm getting an older version off of svn.wowace.com then files.wowace.com :( |
| 18:01.05 | CIA-17 | 03kirkburn * r25906 10ClearFont2/ (ClearFont2.toc Core.lua Readme.txt): ClearFont2: Various minor updates |
| 18:01.08 | kenlyric | sanity can compress stacks now, right? |
| 18:01.13 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah |
| 18:01.18 | Antiarc|Work | Both visually and physically. |
| 18:01.20 | kenlyric | cool, I can drop mrplow |
| 18:01.20 | break19 | i use mrplow :) |
| 18:01.30 | break19 | mrplow + onebag |
| 18:01.49 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm too confused by ClearFont2 atm to do much on it, it is open to people to fiddle with and improve, please :) sylvanaar, art3mis, et al |
| 18:02.01 | nee|lap | Baggins here, but as it does not stack things physically, perhaps I should use MrPlow too |
| 18:02.04 | Antiarc|Work | I just don't really "Get" one-bag mods. |
| 18:02.06 | kenlyric | I'm an OCD bag organizer. I only use the restacking feature of mrplow as it is :) |
| 18:02.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Since I can't even get access to a current fonts.xml, also annoying |
| 18:02.18 | break19 | sanity seems to take up too much screen realestate.. and since I'm a laptop with a 14" lcd.. I need all the real estate I can get my grubby paws on |
| 18:02.32 | Antiarc|Work | break19: Understandable. It's not really meant to be up all the time. :) |
| 18:02.33 | kenlyric | break19: more than having all your bank and bags open? |
| 18:02.33 | nee|lap | Kirkburn|afk: try evl_Fonts, it's easy |
| 18:02.45 | break19 | kenlyric: pretty much.. :p |
| 18:02.52 | break19 | onebag is smaller, more compact.. |
| 18:03.07 | sylvanaar | by the way - when you are in a BG, please try out Prat servernames |
| 18:03.08 | art3mis | what red questionmark? |
| 18:03.15 | kenlyric | onebag is smaller than the default bags, but not smaller than sanity. |
| 18:03.18 | art3mis | all i get is a bag icon |
| 18:03.24 | kenlyric | unless your sanity is huge or something. |
| 18:03.32 | sylvanaar | there arent enough bgs for me to test on |
| 18:03.37 | art3mis | slyv |
| 18:03.39 | Antiarc|Work | Click the bag icon, then on the Sanity UI there is a red question mark |
| 18:03.42 | art3mis | sylv |
| 18:03.51 | art3mis | when i click the bag i get nothing |
| 18:04.00 | art3mis | prat menu isnt showing in deuce commander btw |
| 18:04.00 | Antiarc|Work | Any errors? |
| 18:04.01 | Kirkburn|afk | nee|lap, I'll assume you don't know much about CF2? :P |
| 18:04.06 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 18:04.10 | Antiarc|Work | and/or are you in combat? |
| 18:04.10 | sylvanaar | i know |
| 18:04.15 | art3mis | k |
| 18:04.16 | break19 | I'll give it another shot, but last time I used it, it just seemed "busy" to me |
| 18:04.17 | sylvanaar | but |
| 18:04.21 | nee|lap | Kirkburn|afk: Well, I did use it, but now I use evl_Fonts instead as it does enough for me |
| 18:04.23 | sylvanaar | i dont know why |
| 18:04.33 | sylvanaar | its too dynamic for ol deuce |
| 18:04.41 | kenlyric | break19: oh, it is busy. I can't use it for my everyday bag. But it is smaller :) |
| 18:05.05 | Caiman | i'm getting errors when loading WoW related to prat and battlegroups |
| 18:05.07 | Kirkburn|afk | I didn't know elvis had finished his off. ClearFont2 was based off his early code for that, no idea what it's like now |
| 18:05.11 | break19 | btw, you can scale your onebag :p |
| 18:05.12 | sylvanaar | realy |
| 18:05.18 | sylvanaar | you shoulndt |
| 18:05.23 | Caiman | "attempt to index a nil var" or smthing like that |
| 18:05.36 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 18:05.37 | *** join/#wowace Phroon (n=phroon@isr6599.urh.uiuc.edu) |
| 18:05.37 | sylvanaar | well |
| 18:05.44 | art3mis | 007/01/23 13:02:13-55-x1]: Sanity Inventory: AceConsole: args.advancedoptions.args.deletesettings: "ResetSanity" is not a proper function: |
| 18:05.44 | art3mis | <in C code>: ? |
| 18:05.44 | art3mis | AceEvent-2.0-25760 (Ace2):251: in function `TriggerEvent' |
| 18:05.44 | art3mis | AceEvent-2.0-25760 (Ace2):962: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:955> |
| 18:05.46 | art3mis | sorry |
| 18:06.09 | kenlyric | Antiarc|Work: is it possible that sanity can scan the bank when you visit without having to open sanity? |
| 18:06.13 | break19 | kenlyric: I have my frame-scale for onebag set to 50% :p |
| 18:06.13 | sylvanaar | Caiman tell me the actual error |
| 18:06.18 | Antiarc|Work | kenlyric|home: It should. |
| 18:06.22 | Caiman | i'm updating to latest version |
| 18:06.24 | Caiman | let me check |
| 18:06.30 | kenlyric | Antiarc|Work: it doesn't. |
| 18:06.32 | sylvanaar | restart your game |
| 18:06.41 | Antiarc|Work | kenlyric: I'll doublecheck iti. |
| 18:06.44 | kenlyric | at least last night it didn't. |
| 18:06.59 | Antiarc|Work | art3mis: Hm. I haven't updated Ace in a bit - perhaps it broke something. I'll update and check it out. |
| 18:07.02 | kenlyric | I moved two blue items into the bank, but when I checked sanity there were no blue items at all. |
| 18:07.11 | art3mis | nm i found the problem |
| 18:07.19 | art3mis | i dont have the tabletop lib |
| 18:07.27 | Antiarc|Work | kenlyric: If you don't have the latest version, Sanity wasn't checking the new bag slot for a while. |
| 18:07.34 | Antiarc|Work | I need to factor tabletop out. :/ |
| 18:07.37 | Antiarc|Work | It's really poorly written. |
| 18:07.41 | Antiarc|Work | (And I can say that because I wrote it) |
| 18:07.45 | art3mis | laugh |
| 18:07.47 | CIA-17 | 03murazorz * r25907 10ColaMachine/ (. ColaMachine.toc Core.lua): |
| 18:07.47 | CIA-17 | ColaMachine: |
| 18:07.47 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.47 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.51 | art3mis | ill just install with externals |
| 18:07.52 | Caiman | sylvanaar the error keeps popping up |
| 18:07.58 | art3mis | that shouldnt mess too much up right? |
| 18:08.01 | Antiarc|Work | Nope. |
| 18:08.04 | art3mis | since itll only use those for that mod |
| 18:08.05 | Caiman | where could i paste the error ? |
| 18:08.12 | Antiarc|Work | http://ace.pastey.net |
| 18:09.15 | Caiman | http://ace.pastey.net/5428 |
| 18:09.25 | CIA-17 | 03murazorz * r25908 10ColaLight/ (. ColaLight.toc Core.lua): |
| 18:09.25 | CIA-17 | ColaLight: |
| 18:09.25 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.25 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.25 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:09.59 | NeoTron | ColaLight, is that a "vendor price" addon? |
| 18:10.04 | Caiman | i'm using EU client |
| 18:10.05 | NeoTron | I'm missing that currently |
| 18:10.07 | Antiarc|Work | Yes |
| 18:10.12 | Antiarc|Work | I need to get ColaAds tested |
| 18:10.19 | art3mis | ahh there we go |
| 18:10.19 | Antiarc|Work | I think it works, but I haven't dual-boxed it yet. >_> |
| 18:10.38 | art3mis | how much overhead would it be to add a lib check? |
| 18:10.45 | Antiarc|Work | What do you mean? |
| 18:10.55 | NeoTron | I'll see if I can remember to try it |
| 18:10.56 | art3mis | likea little fuaddon like buggrabber that takes vars from addons that load |
| 18:11.05 | art3mis | "you are missing "xxxxx lib" |
| 18:11.13 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x5734688a.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 18:11.14 | art3mis | taht is needed for xxx addon |
| 18:11.24 | art3mis | and only report the missing libs for the addons loaded |
| 18:11.31 | Antiarc|Work | Well-behaved code should check for the presence of its own libs. I keep meaning to add that, but I keep forgetting to. Heh. |
| 18:11.41 | art3mis | oh no i dont mean just a check |
| 18:11.47 | art3mis | i meant a thing that tells you ;P |
| 18:11.55 | art3mis | in nice happy easy to read format |
| 18:12.04 | art3mis | cuz cart is about 60 errors on load right now |
| 18:12.26 | art3mis | hehe and i mean all modules report a simple line to it |
| 18:12.46 | art3mis | "Lib Perodic Table 3 missing for addon That_thing" |
| 18:12.53 | art3mis | for those that use no externals |
| 18:13.14 | art3mis | since obviously with externals make it function correctly ;) |
| 18:13.34 | art3mis | brb mucking with sanity2 |
| 18:13.44 | kenlyric | I unsintalled cart_trainers, then realized why I wanted it when I was trying to find the cooking trainer in shatt |
| 18:13.54 | kenlyric | probably can still live without cart_vendor |
| 18:14.11 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahahahahahahahahahah |
| 18:14.12 | Antiarc|Work | http://thefixed.org/owned.jpg |
| 18:14.17 | NeoTron | I find cart quests to be one of the best addons |
| 18:14.19 | NeoTron | it's so handy |
| 18:14.49 | CIA-17 | 03anea * r25909 10SpamSentry/ (. core.lua): |
| 18:14.49 | CIA-17 | SpamSentry: |
| 18:14.49 | CIA-17 | - Fixed reference to external DewdropLib |
| 18:14.49 | CIA-17 | - Updated version number |
| 18:14.49 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: hehe |
| 18:15.49 | Antiarc|Work | kenlyric: talk to a guard -> profession trainer -> cooking? |
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| 18:16.24 | kenlyric | Antiarc|Work: I see I haven't really been able to stress how lazy I am. |
| 18:16.29 | Antiarc|Work | Heheh. |
| 18:16.34 | Antiarc|Work | Fair enough. |
| 18:16.52 | kenlyric | I only wanted to get rid of it because it was cluttering my minimap trying to find quest people. |
| 18:17.14 | art3mis | hrm |
| 18:17.18 | kenlyric | but, truthfully, I completely forgot to ask the guard. |
| 18:17.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Antiarc|Work, how exactly was that 'owned'? |
| 18:17.23 | kenlyric | Though, cities need more guards. |
| 18:17.23 | art3mis | so sanity doersnt really allow me to make static bars |
| 18:17.36 | art3mis | so much as view inventory at a glance or look for speicific things? |
| 18:17.38 | Antiarc|Work | art3mis: No, it's just a search/sort, but you can search/sort by most anything. |
| 18:17.48 | Antiarc|Work | So if you want to see all your quest items, just search "quest", etc |
| 18:17.49 | art3mis | seems a bit overkill for what i need |
| 18:17.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Vista went RTM /months/ ago |
| 18:17.53 | art3mis | although it is nice |
| 18:18.11 | kenlyric | Kirkburn|afk: it's just now coming out for retail. |
| 18:18.12 | art3mis | cept that wierd compressing inventory window ;P |
| 18:18.14 | Kirkburn|afk | People have been running Vista RTM for months, too. :/ |
| 18:18.21 | Antiarc|Work | Kirkburn|afk: It's a throwback to the old picture of the Windows XP FCKGW CD taken in front of the MS campus. |
| 18:18.28 | Antiarc|Work | Homage, if you will. |
| 18:18.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes, but it's stupid! |
| 18:18.38 | art3mis | i hate vista |
| 18:18.43 | art3mis | hate hate hate hate hate |
| 18:18.51 | Kirkburn|afk | RTM went out for people to legally install way back in November |
| 18:18.51 | art3mis | ill stick qwith 2k |
| 18:18.57 | shieldb | art3mis, using tags and categories can do wonders for getting through your inventory quickly with sanity |
| 18:19.09 | art3mis | oh yeah im not saying sanity isnt awesome |
| 18:19.15 | art3mis | just overkill for what i want |
| 18:19.20 | Antiarc|Work | I can understand that :) |
| 18:19.25 | Kirkburn|afk | art3mis, you stick with 2K and I'll actually move with the times. |
| 18:19.26 | Ordog | vbagnon ftw |
| 18:19.27 | Antiarc|Work | It's a general-purpose solution, rather than a specific one. |
| 18:19.36 | art3mis | Kirkburn|afk: so you run nix? |
| 18:19.43 | art3mis | or osx? |
| 18:19.45 | art3mis | ;) |
| 18:19.51 | Kirkburn|afk | No, I run Vista. |
| 18:19.57 | nee|lap | Egh.. the 'suddenly having horribly low FPS unless I set the terrain distance to near-half' bug again |
| 18:19.57 | art3mis | ihate the interface |
| 18:19.58 | Kirkburn|afk | :) |
| 18:20.02 | art3mis | i hate the built in drm shit |
| 18:20.10 | art3mis | i hate the security |
| 18:20.13 | Ordog | 2 of 4 macbook users are on winxp more regulary than osx |
| 18:20.15 | art3mis | i hate that im gonna have to support it |
| 18:20.22 | art3mis | i hate that its retarded |
| 18:20.26 | Ordog | i know 4 ^^ |
| 18:20.30 | Kirkburn|afk | If you hate Vista's security, you must also hate OSX's and Linux's |
| 18:20.31 | art3mis | i hate that they changed locations of things around |
| 18:20.41 | *** join/#wowace gngsk| (n=gngsk@c-68-55-43-190.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 18:20.46 | art3mis | nah nix's security doesnt really interfer with my desktop ;P |
| 18:20.51 | art3mis | vista on the other hand |
| 18:20.56 | Kirkburn|afk | With your desktop? |
| 18:21.00 | art3mis | heh ive had it on my laptop for about 5 months |
| 18:21.10 | art3mis | yeah ya know those annoying popup menus? |
| 18:21.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Those don't occur on your desktop |
| 18:21.23 | art3mis | and the lack of a proper group policy |
| 18:21.28 | shieldb | I do jewelcrafting and have tons of socketable and uncut gems, so I ended up setting up tags / categories so I can just click on the appropriate thing and see 'all uncut gems' 'all socketable gems' or gems by specific socket color |
| 18:21.29 | art3mis | yes actually they do |
| 18:21.43 | Neebler | oooo I see a new addon on /files/! VersionChecker <3 Ckknight |
| 18:21.47 | art3mis | unless you disable the warning which is on by default |
| 18:21.47 | Kirkburn|afk | The desktop is specifically an unprotected zone for moveing and copying things |
| 18:22.04 | Neebler | it doesn't say how it's supposed to be run, does everyone need it or just 1 person? |
| 18:22.05 | art3mis | it pops up for behind the scenes av and spyware updaters |
| 18:22.17 | art3mis | its a bunch of little things that make me hate it |
| 18:22.18 | art3mis | plus |
| 18:22.35 | art3mis | the added built in downgrading of media(audio and video) IF drm isnt present or invalid |
| 18:22.46 | *** join/#wowace AK|Skar (n=skar@manz-590cc510.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 18:22.52 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, ping - i'm improving that implementation you saw |
| 18:22.53 | art3mis | there's actually a big article about that |
| 18:22.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Okay, you're talking crap now, so I'm not bothering any more |
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| 18:22.57 | art3mis | hehehe |
| 18:23.07 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: I already committed. |
| 18:23.15 | KarlThePagan | cool |
| 18:23.19 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: Not your patch, but I cooked it up myself. |
| 18:23.20 | art3mis | suffice to say i dont like vista at all |
| 18:24.01 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, ok cool I'll have a look thanks |
| 18:24.01 | Feldia | does anyone know why the new enchanting reagents / herbs are classified differently than the old ones in baggins? |
| 18:24.01 | AK|Skar | hey there |
| 18:24.02 | Antiarc|Work | Feldia: Probably a PeriodicTable thing. |
| 18:24.02 | sylvanaar | man i just started using one bag |
| 18:24.06 | Arrowmaster | bah all the svn servers are out of sync, and it wont let me checkout from dev |
| 18:24.07 | sylvanaar | and its not working now |
| 18:24.08 | Feldia | the old ones are "mats" the new ones are "gathered" |
| 18:24.16 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, glad you did... I wasn't entirely cleaning up my queued set properly ;) |
| 18:24.17 | Feldia | but yea you're probably right Antiarc|Work |
| 18:24.35 | KarlThePagan | Gagorian, ping? |
| 18:24.43 | AK|Skar | I have a problem using xperl-unitframes and TinyTip. When I mouseover a grp member, I cant see a tooltip, same for myself |
| 18:24.57 | AK|Skar | not sure which mod actually causes that but I cant seem to get it working |
| 18:25.08 | sylvanaar | 2.20a? |
| 18:25.17 | art3mis | is vbagnon one of those addons that didnt make an all-in-one bag interface? |
| 18:25.39 | AK|Skar | yes 2.20a |
| 18:25.44 | Kirkburn|afk | Too many negatives? |
| 18:25.45 | AK|Skar | happened with earlier versions too |
| 18:25.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes vBagnon is an all-in-one bag interface |
| 18:26.14 | sylvanaar | thought it was fixed in 220a, but i disabled tiny tip |
| 18:26.16 | art3mis | im trying to find a better one than onebag until kael updates his |
| 18:26.42 | art3mis | since baggins doesnt really do what i need since the latest revisions |
| 18:26.59 | sylvanaar | Onestorage i think is incompatible with 2.0.6 |
| 18:27.18 | Antiarc|Work | What changed in 2.0.6? |
| 18:27.32 | Saroz | who wrote noteshare? |
| 18:27.35 | AK|Skar | well when I disable tinytip I still dont see a tooltip. hm. |
| 18:28.02 | Antiarc|Work | Is there a better way to escape a string for literal find than "s:gsub("[%^%$%(%)%%%.%[%]%*%+%-%?]", "%%%1")" |
| 18:28.03 | Antiarc|Work | ? |
| 18:28.31 | Antiarc|Work | The warranty on my % is about to expire, and I don't want to have to replace it. |
| 18:29.25 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r25910 10OneStorage/OneStorage.toc: OneStorage - 20003 |
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| 18:30.05 | Saroz | ckknight, you wrote noteshare? |
| 18:30.23 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:30.26 | Saroz | :p |
| 18:30.28 | Antiarc|Work | Morning, ckknight |
| 18:31.14 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: http://wowace.com/trac/changeset/25836 |
| 18:31.18 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: http://wowace.com/trac/changeset/25837 |
| 18:31.21 | break19 | lol, now there's a nice name for an addon: MiniButtLib |
| 18:32.24 | break19 | oh, that "links" addon, is that for kci? |
| 18:32.30 | art3mis | so baggins, onebag, and ark are the only ace bag addons? |
| 18:32.40 | break19 | sanity is ace isnt it? |
| 18:32.46 | art3mis | sorry replacement |
| 18:32.51 | Antiarc|Work | It is, but it's an inventory addon, as opposed to a bag addon. ;) |
| 18:32.58 | break19 | ah |
| 18:33.14 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, yea cleaner |
| 18:33.23 | Saroz | ckknight, question, does cart have an API to return all zones it has data about? |
| 18:33.24 | art3mis | if you could make it make custom bagbars that would rule ;P |
| 18:33.32 | art3mis | then i'd use it ;P |
| 18:34.06 | art3mis | i love the advanced tradskill addon |
| 18:34.07 | Antiarc|Work | I've been thinking of letting you "drag out" a search set into a bar. |
| 18:34.10 | KarlThePagan | one question vhaarr - what's gained by using the reclaim method? |
| 18:34.17 | art3mis | that would be great |
| 18:34.19 | Antiarc|Work | So you search for "quest", get your list, then drag that list out into a bag bar. |
| 18:34.21 | NeoTron | so for the various notes in cart, is theer a way to make the minimap icons show but not the minimap rings? |
| 18:34.24 | Antiarc|Work | But that's a lot of work and I'm laaaaaaazy. |
| 18:34.32 | art3mis | hahaha understandbale then ;P |
| 18:34.32 | NeoTron | for some things the rings become really annoying |
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| 18:34.56 | art3mis | is cart the one that puts the big blue ring on the minimap? |
| 18:35.00 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: it just clears the table, thereby freeing the memory |
| 18:35.03 | art3mis | or is that some other addon |
| 18:35.16 | NeoTron | I assume it is, since it's rings for things on the map.. |
| 18:36.11 | NeoTron | I prefer ArkInventory except it doesn't sort within each category (it splits by category but doesn't order the items). Baggins is good but is annoying me since it keeps changing the layout every time I sell an item for example |
| 18:36.12 | realistik | anybody familiar with how cartographer stores data for map notes? |
| 18:36.19 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, hmm unless there's a dangling reference to that table is it neccessary to clear the k/v pairs? |
| 18:36.26 | NeoTron | so I've accidently sold / moved the wrong items because the display changed |
| 18:36.34 | art3mis | NeoTron: yeah it moves it around too often and "fills" the bags wierdly |
| 18:36.37 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, from a garbage-collection standpoint it's redundant |
| 18:36.45 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: Who the hell cares. |
| 18:36.49 | KarlThePagan | kek |
| 18:36.52 | Gagorian | KarlThePagan: Pong. |
| 18:37.09 | KarlThePagan | Gagorian, hey I've poked around in DrDamage and have a better idea of what I want |
| 18:37.28 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: When I'm done with a table, I clean it up, and that's that, if you don't like that, I don't care. |
| 18:37.30 | art3mis | Antiarc|Work: instead of making it drag out the items.. |
| 18:37.31 | NeoTron | if it just left the layout as-is until it's closed, it'd wouldn't be as annoying but I'd rather it put items in the order I configured them but still compressed the layout |
| 18:37.34 | vhaarr | There's nothing to discuss. |
| 18:37.36 | NeoTron | like arkinventory and engniventory |
| 18:37.40 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, meh it's not a big issue |
| 18:37.49 | vhaarr | It's a non-issue. |
| 18:38.10 | art3mis | Antiarc|Work: could you make a bag frame instead of the open all bags thing, that would allow display of your searches when you click the bag? |
| 18:38.18 | art3mis | like say i search for quest |
| 18:38.23 | art3mis | and then close sanity |
| 18:38.28 | art3mis | and click the bag to show bags |
| 18:38.34 | KarlThePagan | Gagorian, a new display type "Min" that takes TooltipData.MinDmg from RawNumbers and displays that (or nothing if it's unavailable - not even the average) |
| 18:38.36 | Antiarc|Work | Hm, highlight the items in the bags that match the search? |
| 18:38.42 | Antiarc|Work | That would actually be pretty cool. |
| 18:38.46 | Antiarc|Work | I will definitely think about that. |
| 18:38.51 | art3mis | it would open a custom frame that would show the items of the search? |
| 18:38.59 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh, I see. |
| 18:38.59 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. |
| 18:39.06 | Antiarc|Work | I will think about that. |
| 18:39.07 | Gagorian | KarlThePagan: Why'd you want min only? |
| 18:39.14 | KarlThePagan | Gagorian, shadow word death |
| 18:39.21 | KarlThePagan | I want a garunteed killshot ;) |
| 18:39.21 | Antiarc|Work | I actually think that would kinda be a secondary addon, but it could be done. |
| 18:39.23 | art3mis | so if you wanted to see all yer stuff you just clear the searchbox and poof? |
| 18:39.36 | Antiarc|Work | It could just use SanityItemCache, and be a "one bag" type bag with a search at the bottom. |
| 18:39.38 | KarlThePagan | also very useful for shadowburn, eviscerate, etc |
| 18:39.42 | Antiarc|Work | As you search, it filters. |
| 18:39.45 | art3mis | yeah |
| 18:40.00 | KarlThePagan | (tho they made shadowburn not so lame as SWD) |
| 18:40.04 | Gagorian | Humh, but that'd affect all skills. So you're prepared to have min damage on everything? |
| 18:40.18 | Antiarc|Work | I don't think that would be a good Sanity feature, but it could be an addon that depends on Sanity (and thus, the item cache). |
| 18:40.23 | art3mis | actually if you did it from within sanity and not the bagwindow you chould set a "lock" on the window you create |
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| 18:40.27 | Antiarc|Work | Sanity's factored well enough to allow a second addon to be build on top of it. |
| 18:40.28 | KarlThePagan | Gagorian, until you have per-spell preferences yea I'll use it ;) |
| 18:40.34 | art3mis | so you could drag it somewhere click lock and it would stay there |
| 18:40.40 | Arrowmaster | KarlThePagan: shadowburn is perty lame when your low on shards |
| 18:40.47 | art3mis | thinking back to my want for a questitem autobar |
| 18:40.52 | Antiarc|Work | art3mis: I'll definitely think about that. |
| 18:40.55 | Gagorian | Per spell preferences is most likely a no go |
| 18:41.04 | Gagorian | Maybe editable through .lua |
| 18:41.06 | break19 | hey nee|lap does kci not come with any defauly set of vendor pricing? |
| 18:41.16 | ckknight | Saroz: hrm... no, do you need it? |
| 18:41.17 | art3mis | groovy |
| 18:41.18 | KarlThePagan | Gagorian, yea I'm not concerned about that feature |
| 18:41.18 | Gagorian | but otherwise not. |
| 18:41.26 | art3mis | cuz really thats all sanity is missing to be a bag replacement ;P |
| 18:41.27 | Saroz | ckknight, no found it in Tourist :p |
| 18:41.30 | Gagorian | Yeah, you've convinced me. I'll add it to the todo list |
| 18:41.30 | art3mis | anda powerful one at that |
| 18:41.34 | KarlThePagan | Gagorian, thx |
| 18:42.07 | ckknight | Saroz: that just gets all zones, not all zones that Cart has data about |
| 18:42.13 | ckknight | well, by data I mean notes |
| 18:42.14 | nee|lap | break19: I think it has a database yes |
| 18:42.14 | Saroz | true |
| 18:42.16 | realistik | ckknight: How is X/Y stored in cartographer map notes? |
| 18:42.16 | art3mis | ck |
| 18:42.32 | break19 | nee|lap: hm, k |
| 18:42.43 | art3mis | cart is making me sad |
| 18:42.46 | ckknight | realistik: I made a post about it in the Cartographer forums, look for the gather.reet post |
| 18:42.47 | Saroz | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/5431 |
| 18:42.50 | ckknight | art3mis: oh? |
| 18:42.56 | art3mis | updated recently |
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| 18:43.01 | art3mis | 60+ errors on load |
| 18:43.03 | nee|lap | break19: I do not use it myself though. |
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| 18:43.05 | art3mis | and no groovy map |
| 18:43.05 | break19 | nee|lap: wonder, then, why my garbagefu was showing ?? for prices on greys in elwynn forest... :p |
| 18:43.18 | ckknight | Saroz: kagaro's the author of noteshare |
| 18:43.26 | Saroz | ckknight, ah ok |
| 18:43.29 | ckknight | art3mis: errors such as? |
| 18:43.34 | art3mis | break19: umm sec lemme reload |
| 18:44.03 | KarlThePagan | brb |
| 18:44.05 | nee|lap | break19: I wish I could tell you. |
| 18:44.36 | realistik | ckknight: The forum on wowinterface.com? |
| 18:44.43 | ckknight | no, wowace |
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| 18:45.19 | realistik | thanks |
| 18:45.56 | art3mis | neat now they're fixed |
| 18:45.59 | art3mis | you're amgic! |
| 18:46.01 | art3mis | magic! |
| 18:46.06 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r25911 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/FuBar_RogueTimerFu.toc: FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - toc update |
| 18:46.38 | art3mis | although i am confused as to why when i map to my M key its like a big map small map toggle instead of an open and close the map button |
| 18:47.00 | art3mis | its been doing that for a long time |
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| 18:48.06 | durcyn | art3mis: make sure you didn't rebind M to cartographer's alternate map display toggle |
| 18:48.17 | Dekuna | is there a slash command for postal? |
| 18:49.09 | art3mis | oh |
| 18:49.13 | break19 | Dekuna: crazily enough, it's /postal |
| 18:49.23 | Dekuna | break19: tried it, no dice |
| 18:49.24 | NeoTron | break19: that's insane! |
| 18:49.28 | break19 | then it's not loaded |
| 18:49.29 | art3mis | does it autoreplace the default map automagically? |
| 18:49.35 | Dekuna | my mailbox disagrees |
| 18:49.49 | art3mis | or rather make itself the default map |
| 18:49.54 | art3mis | cuz that would explain it |
| 18:50.18 | break19 | Dekuna: when i type /postal, I get :Postal: Enhanced Mailbox support <CRLF>Usage: /Postal {profile | standby | about} etc etc |
| 18:50.18 | durcyn | yes, it replaces the default frame |
| 18:50.42 | tale | are you maybe actually using postman? (/postman or /pman) |
| 18:50.42 | durcyn | Postal:RegisterChatCommand({ "/Postal" }, Postal.consoleOptions, "POSTAL") |
| 18:50.50 | durcyn | try it with a capital P, shrug |
| 18:50.50 | Dekuna | break19: i'm really not a moron, i swear. no, it's postal. and no, /postal doesn't work for me |
| 18:51.26 | ckknight | anybody notice that Bush has gotten a lot older in the past 6 years? He's going gray pretty harsh |
| 18:51.42 | break19 | Dekuna: then download the latest one. if that doesnt fix it, then you have problems somewhere |
| 18:51.58 | durcyn | Dekuna: see also /ace load Postal |
| 18:52.13 | break19 | ckknight: after all the hate filled speeches directed towards him, who can wonder why |
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| 18:52.43 | ckknight | yea, I bet he's been under a little stress throughout his presidential career |
| 18:52.59 | durcyn | you'd have grey hair too if you'd spent 6 years in an English as a Second Language class without any results |
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| 18:53.35 | break19 | to top it off, the constant insults by the press, calling him "Mr Bush" instead of "President Bush" it's a snub imho |
| 18:53.52 | art3mis | hrm |
| 18:54.02 | Barbanus | ut oh, politics |
| 18:54.07 | art3mis | that fixed it thanks dur |
| 18:54.14 | Ominous__ | hmm whats wrong with http://ace.pastey.net/5432? |
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| 18:54.29 | Ominous__ | all the modules dont dissable on standby which i thought that made them do |
| 18:54.31 | art3mis | now to figure out what he broke in clearfonts |
| 18:54.35 | kenlyric | am I stupid? where is the option to edit sets in closetgnome? |
| 18:54.48 | durcyn | kenlyric: don't edit, just replace with the new one |
| 18:54.48 | art3mis | sicne apeparantly it doesnt like applying fonts to addons on load anymore ;P |
| 18:54.49 | Ominous__ | kenlyric: just add another set with same name |
| 18:54.51 | break19 | Barbanus: dont worry, I wont spout my, admittedly conservative viewpoints :) |
| 18:54.58 | kenlyric | ug. |
| 18:55.03 | kenlyric | that's a monkey. |
| 18:55.29 | break19 | i just think, that, no matter what ya think of the man's politics, he *IS* the President, and as such, should be addressed by it.. |
| 18:55.30 | Barbanus | break19, yea, I was refraining :) |
| 18:55.49 | durcyn | let's talk about warcraft, not politics |
| 18:55.57 | break19 | durcyn: okie doke |
| 18:56.10 | Barbanus | I'm your neighbour from the north :P |
| 18:56.11 | kenlyric | ok, why doesn't the gnome like my second ring slot? |
| 18:56.21 | durcyn | kenlyric: two of the same name? |
| 18:56.30 | kenlyric | no. |
| 18:56.38 | kenlyric | I put something in the second ring slot, and it change out the first. |
| 18:56.48 | break19 | Barbanus: you a dirty canadian, eh? :) :) |
| 18:57.04 | Barbanus | Sure am. |
| 18:57.18 | break19 | never been there, my folks have tho, to ontario, thought the city was beautiful. |
| 18:57.38 | Barbanus | afk a min, need to go feed my pet moose |
| 18:57.40 | break19 | one of these days, I'll visit too.. been overseas a few times, but not to Canada. :) |
| 18:57.41 | Barbanus | :P |
| 18:57.41 | break19 | lol |
| 18:58.42 | Barbanus | I live in BC, Vancouver Island to be exact .. its funny how many people think its snowing here year round. |
| 18:58.47 | break19 | <- has visited: GB, DE, NE. want to go to Greece.. badly.. but the wife doesn't like to fly |
| 18:59.06 | break19 | Barbanus: heh, I live in south alabama, and its funny how many people are surprised I can read. |
| 18:59.13 | Barbanus | lol |
| 18:59.22 | art3mis | break19 really? i'm surprised |
| 18:59.32 | art3mis | actually im surprised you dont play the bajo ;) |
| 18:59.35 | art3mis | banjo |
| 18:59.38 | break19 | huked own phawneks wurkd fer mee |
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| 18:59.49 | art3mis | where on the island barn? |
| 19:00.08 | markv | hmm was the cooldown counter in bartender3 removed in the latest version? |
| 19:00.15 | Barbanus | we have a guild member who is from alabama, and he acts like a hick, he plays it up tho ... its like the guild joke |
| 19:00.17 | art3mis | yes |
| 19:00.19 | art3mis | get omnicc |
| 19:00.20 | break19 | art3mis: lol. my grandfather played a mean fiddle, but no banjo's :) |
| 19:00.22 | Barbanus | art3mis, Parksville |
| 19:00.31 | art3mis | ahh |
| 19:00.38 | art3mis | grew up in vancouver |
| 19:00.39 | Barbanus | you live on the island? |
| 19:00.41 | Barbanus | ahh cool |
| 19:00.42 | break19 | and, whats funnier is, his parents were immigrants from Canada :) |
| 19:00.50 | art3mis | now i live in new yawk |
| 19:00.58 | art3mis | hah break |
| 19:01.05 | Barbanus | lol colder in NY than Vancouver I bet :P |
| 19:01.16 | break19 | tho he isnt my grandfather by blood.. my real grandfather died during Korea |
| 19:01.16 | art3mis | not really |
| 19:01.16 | art3mis | its almost the exact same climate |
| 19:01.21 | art3mis | cept winter is super dry |
| 19:01.24 | break19 | while my grandmother was pregnant with my mom |
| 19:01.26 | art3mis | and summer is super humid |
| 19:01.42 | Barbanus | art3mis, haha you cant claim the same for us, thats for sure |
| 19:01.44 | art3mis | without rain though thats the part that bugs me since 80% humidity in van meant rain ;P |
| 19:01.58 | break19 | art3mis: super humid, as in what percentage? lol |
| 19:02.03 | art3mis | 90's |
| 19:02.06 | break19 | heh |
| 19:02.15 | break19 | thats low humidity for here. lol |
| 19:02.20 | art3mis | itll be like clear sunny 28C and 90% humidity |
| 19:02.46 | break19 | I live on the gulf, 100% humidity is the norm :p |
| 19:02.50 | art3mis | haha |
| 19:02.51 | Amadeo | haha, this is a neat idea - http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info6715-PingDirection.html |
| 19:03.03 | Barbanus | we have on average of 15-20 days of rain in Oct -> May |
| 19:03.11 | art3mis | lies! |
| 19:03.13 | break19 | in fact, sometimes it's so bad, it feels like walking thru a steam room :) |
| 19:03.16 | art3mis | yer pacific NW |
| 19:03.27 | art3mis | i'd believe 20 days of sun ;P |
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| 19:03.38 | Barbanus | http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/stats/pages/C02094.htm?CABC0213 |
| 19:03.41 | Barbanus | Check it out :P |
| 19:03.43 | art3mis | heard you guys got a nice snow front though ebfore xmas |
| 19:03.51 | Barbanus | yea, we did |
| 19:03.55 | art3mis | my moms still out there |
| 19:04.07 | art3mis | we have had a total of 1 foot of snow since i moved to new york |
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| 19:04.22 | art3mis | my wife is pissed since before i moved here it used to be 8 feet on average |
| 19:04.31 | Barbanus | haha |
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| 19:04.57 | Barbanus | Yea, we had a dump before christmas, and we had another bit 2 weeks ago |
| 19:05.14 | Barbanus | 2 weeks ago we had like 2 inches, and it stayed for like a week and a half |
| 19:05.30 | Barbanus | People see snow here and freak out .. "OMG SNOW LOCK THE DOORS!" |
| 19:05.39 | RaydenUnicyclist | it finally sort of snowed here in indiana |
| 19:06.28 | art3mis | haha yeah |
| 19:06.36 | art3mis | vanoucver is awesome for that |
| 19:06.42 | art3mis | cuz of the oil on the roads for all the rain |
| 19:06.50 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25912 10Cartographer/Modules/GuildPositions.lua: Cartographer-GuildPositions - show guild when looking at a guild member, to fit in with the other tooltips |
| 19:06.53 | art3mis | the #1 is so amazingly awesome to drive in the winter |
| 19:07.00 | art3mis | just for the accidents |
| 19:07.29 | RaydenUnicyclist | is there a download location for the little patch today? |
| 19:07.34 | art3mis | i lived in calgary for 10years and the deerfoot averaged about 650 accidents on the day of the first snowfall each year |
| 19:08.07 | kenlyric | lol... my mods are growing from 32mb to 64mb. |
| 19:08.12 | RaydenUnicyclist | yeah, first day of rain in southern california is crazy |
| 19:08.22 | RaydenUnicyclist | no one knows how to drive in the rain cause its been 9 months since it rained |
| 19:08.27 | RaydenUnicyclist | and so much oil on the roads |
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| 19:18.52 | OvrLrd-Q | ckknight: still getting that error in Cartographer\Modules\Notes.lua |
| 19:19.10 | ckknight | what errot? |
| 19:19.21 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r25913 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: |
| 19:19.21 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Noteshare: Allow the broadcast of all zonedata for a specific data type, not just the |
| 19:19.21 | CIA-17 | current zone. |
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| 19:21.19 | OvrLrd-Q | saying it's expecting value between 0,1 http://ace.pastey.net/5433 |
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| 19:21.30 | Amadeo | I just found a Best Buy gift card that I've had for about 5 years, buried in a drawer...has $20 on it |
| 19:21.32 | Amadeo | What should I buy!? |
| 19:21.58 | Herio | usb sex toys! |
| 19:22.16 | Amadeo | fufme? |
| 19:22.31 | Herio | i have no idea what that means... |
| 19:22.33 | durcyn | don't those expire after a time? |
| 19:22.35 | paranoidi | wth, how do I get tekSupport loaded? ;P |
| 19:22.36 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r25914 10FuBar_WarlockTimerFu/ (Bars.lua Core.lua FuBar_WarlockTimerFu.toc RuleSet.lua): FuBar_WarlockTimerFu: attempt to fix local problem |
| 19:22.42 | durcyn | paranoidi: /ace load tekSupport |
| 19:22.45 | Herio | depends onw here you live |
| 19:22.49 | OvrLrd-Q | think I get one error for every note on the map |
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| 19:22.58 | Herio | in Cali, gift cards can't expire |
| 19:22.59 | Amadeo | Herio: it's old school |
| 19:23.01 | Herio | it's state law |
| 19:23.25 | Amadeo | this one doesn't expire |
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| 19:23.39 | durcyn | Herio: way back in the day there was an internet chat program called Cu-SeeMe. someone made a parody site called FU-FME, short for "Fuck you, fuck me". whoever it was basically invented teledildonics :o |
| 19:23.59 | paranoidi | allright, another question.. wasn't wow 2.0 with incremental garbage collector make function local variables safe to create at OnUpdate? |
| 19:24.13 | durcyn | Herio: hey, you asked. |
| 19:24.16 | paranoidi | it would seem like it still consumes memory and you have to make them outside ;P |
| 19:24.18 | Amadeo | durcyn: I think those products actually exist now |
| 19:24.35 | durcyn | Amadeo: they do. saw one for sale linked from boingboing last week. |
| 19:24.46 | Amadeo | Nice |
| 19:24.54 | Amadeo | :P |
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| 19:25.47 | durcyn | though i have to wonder about any person who would willingly insert their manhood into what looks like a bowling pin |
| 19:25.55 | kergoth | paranoidi: incremental garbage collection isnt a magic bullet. it avoids the large resource hit from the one big gc periodically, but its still no excuse for rempant crazy memory leaking |
| 19:26.12 | Herio | what if it was a sexy bowling pin |
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| 19:26.35 | kenlyric | so, any thoughts on how I can figure out which mod is running away with my memory? |
| 19:26.47 | durcyn | kenlyric: teksupport, if you're lucky |
| 19:27.13 | OvrLrd-Q | anybody know how often svn.wowace.com is updated? |
| 19:27.21 | durcyn | OvrLrd-Q: every 20 minutes in a cron |
| 19:27.23 | Herio | uhm |
| 19:27.28 | CIA-17 | 03schelli 07Schelli * r25915 10IceHUD/modules/TargetOfTarget.lua: ICEHUD : fixed TargetOfTarget.lua bugs |
| 19:27.30 | Herio | i thought /files was updated every 20 min |
| 19:27.33 | durcyn | OvrLrd-Q: er, the files.wowace.com zips rather |
| 19:27.44 | Herio | and the SVN is real time |
| 19:27.58 | OvrLrd-Q | strange, all I can get is 25873 |
| 19:28.05 | durcyn | correct. though svn2's svnsync was outdated yesterday, not sure if it's fixed yet. |
| 19:28.06 | Arrowmaster | hey kergoth quick gc question while your at it, if your only using a table once during onenable and never again its ok to just nil it when your done or should you loop through it and nil every value in the table? |
| 19:28.06 | Herio | but it's more intensive on the server, so only use it for dev'n |
| 19:28.07 | paranoidi | kergoth: right, but variables inside function namespace should be allocated from "heap" instead of "stack". |
| 19:28.54 | CIA-17 | 03schelli 07Schelli * r25916 10IceHUD_Hunter/ (9 files in 2 dirs): IceHUD_Hunter : added a lot of usefull stuff, fixed a few bugs |
| 19:29.49 | Antiarc|Work | Just so I'm clear - |
| 19:30.04 | CIA-17 | 03schelli 07Schelli * r25917 10IceHUD/ (IceCastBar.lua modules/TargetCast.lua): ICEHUD : fixed missing modules |
| 19:30.09 | Antiarc|Work | Blizzard's ContainerFrame uses a standard Button for their items because their code is secure, so they don't need to use the secure templates? |
| 19:31.01 | break19 | lol, poor lock.. |
| 19:31.23 | break19 | i was wanderin around GS with my lvl 10 rogue alt, and he duel'd me. |
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| 19:31.41 | break19 | it was over almost before it started :p |
| 19:32.10 | kenlyric | so, my memory usage skyrockets when I change gear. |
| 19:32.47 | kenlyric | just taking my shoulders off and on I pushed it up to 100KiB/s |
| 19:32.51 | Antiarc|Work | kenlyric: If you're using an older version of Sanity, that could be it. |
| 19:32.57 | Antiarc|Work | I had some really, really stupid code in there. |
| 19:33.01 | kenlyric | I just updated today. |
| 19:33.06 | Antiarc|Work | Ok, not it then. |
| 19:33.31 | kenlyric | not a big deal, since I did all that I won't be doing it again anytime soon. |
| 19:34.12 | Arrowmaster | got a durability mod? |
| 19:34.24 | kenlyric | yeah, durability_fu |
| 19:36.06 | Arrowmaster | me too, just tried it and no big increasing memory usage |
| 19:36.41 | Arrowmaster | i used to be able to hit about 4MiB/s from spaming my open/close spellbook binding |
| 19:38.11 | evl | Anyway to do the #show none now for no error output from a macro? |
| 19:38.31 | Arrowmaster | error output? |
| 19:39.29 | Silviu- | ckknight http://www.ace.pastey.net/5435 http://www.ace.pastey.net/5436 http://www.ace.pastey.net/5437 |
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| 19:41.25 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25918 10Cartographer/Modules/GuildPositions.lua: Cartographer-GuildPositions - send English zones across the stream |
| 19:43.05 | ckknight | k, Silviu- |
| 19:43.23 | Silviu- | Thx :) |
| 19:43.35 | ckknight | Saroz: use !BugGrabber/BugSack |
| 19:43.57 | ckknight | Silviu-: sadly, it'll only really work properly when your guildies upgrade. |
| 19:44.18 | ckknight | use VersionChecker if you want to pinpoint who to yell at |
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| 19:45.19 | kergoth | paranoidi: tables, strings, functions, userdata are handled by the gc, never allocated on the stack. |
| 19:45.54 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work: you only need to nil out a table if its being used again at some point. its an initialization step, not a finalization step. no point reusing something in that rarely used a codepath |
| 19:46.12 | Antiarc|Work | Wait, what? |
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| 19:46.59 | kergoth | emptying a table is pointless if you arent reusing it, and theres no point reusing a table in a codepath thats only hit when the user puts you in standby. |
| 19:47.04 | kergoth | clear enough? |
| 19:47.07 | kergoth | :P |
| 19:48.02 | paranoidi | kergoth: hmmh, perhaps it's just weakness of LUA's GC. Since Java and other more heavy GC languages have way more complex (hybrid) GC as far as I undestand. However I find it a bit annoying that I cannot make clean looking code if I want to keep memory consumption under control (if tekSupport/perFU even is realistic indicator). |
| 19:48.04 | kenlyric | hmmm... when I leave spirit tap my gear doesn't revert back to normal... do I need to set a default set for that to work? |
| 19:48.09 | kenlyric | (for closetgnome) |
| 19:48.14 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: Yes, but...why did that come up? |
| 19:48.24 | krka | <@kergoth> Antiarc|Work: you only need to nil out a table if its being used again at some point. |
| 19:48.27 | kergoth | it came up cause i mistabcompleted, of course |
| 19:48.27 | krka | i don't agree |
| 19:48.35 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahah, ok. |
| 19:48.43 | krka | if it's not used again, that's even more of a reason to nil it |
| 19:48.50 | ckknight | krka: nil the contents. |
| 19:48.50 | kergoth | i was talking about nil'ing the elements |
| 19:48.54 | Antiarc|Work | I'm sitting here working, my highlight went off, and I've been scratching my head trying to figure out what the hell I said. |
| 19:49.01 | kergoth | Arrowmaster asked about emptying a one time used table in his onenable |
| 19:49.06 | ckknight | if it's not being used again, nil the whole table |
| 19:49.11 | ckknight | if it is, clear its contents |
| 19:49.13 | ckknight | basically. |
| 19:49.19 | Antiarc|Work | How expensive is it to clear a table? |
| 19:49.31 | krka | depends on how many elements there are |
| 19:49.51 | Antiarc|Work | Well, in O() notation. |
| 19:50.01 | ckknight | I'd guess O(n lg n) |
| 19:50.12 | Barbanus | Antiarc, 5000g, you can send that to Barbanus on Korgath. |
| 19:50.12 | kenlyric | well, that seems to be the issue, but that's going to suck when I'm healing and accidentally get the spirit tap proc :/ |
| 19:50.13 | ckknight | I think |
| 19:50.18 | ckknight | maybe just O(n) |
| 19:50.25 | ckknight | not sure how lua handles next() |
| 19:50.32 | krka | next is O(1), i think |
| 19:50.43 | Antiarc|Work | I just have no idea how it handles element reordering when you remove an element. |
| 19:50.52 | krka | i did read a bit in ltable.c |
| 19:50.59 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work: it doesnt. |
| 19:51.04 | ckknight | I should read that, krka |
| 19:51.10 | krka | yeah, it's interesting |
| 19:51.13 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: it d |
| 19:51.18 | ckknight | doesn't* |
| 19:51.20 | kergoth | the table isnt resized until an element is added, and its table.remove() that shifts elements in an array, not the nil'ing |
| 19:51.29 | krka | i think it would be O(n) to nil all elements |
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| 19:52.51 | [dRaCo] | is there a way to use an equipped item? |
| 19:53.02 | [dRaCo] | UseInventoryItem() gets blocked :/ |
| 19:53.22 | Barbanus | [dRaCo], in a macro its just /use Item Name |
| 19:54.03 | [dRaCo] | yeah... but I need the trinket in my first trinket slot |
| 19:54.10 | Gngsk | or /use itemslot# |
| 19:54.11 | [dRaCo] | wanted a macro for all of then |
| 19:54.24 | Gngsk | /use 13 |
| 19:54.26 | [dRaCo] | hey, that sounds like it could work |
| 19:54.28 | [dRaCo] | thanks |
| 19:54.28 | Barbanus | What Gngsk said :) |
| 19:54.50 | ckknight | how would one check if you can send messages to the guild channel? some guilds prevent newbies from doing so |
| 19:55.22 | Barbanus | ckknight, lol good question |
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| 19:55.46 | break19 | ckknight: best way, attempt to do so, upon initialization.. then store a variable. |
| 19:55.50 | Barbanus | ckknight, next question, does not being able to send a message to the guild channel, stop you from sendign addon messages to the guild also? :P |
| 19:56.02 | break19 | altho that will spam :p |
| 19:56.04 | ckknight | yes, it does. |
| 19:56.12 | ckknight | yes, I don't want spam |
| 19:56.28 | break19 | ckknight: ah, then, send an addon msg |
| 19:56.39 | ckknight | break19: it's blocked. |
| 19:56.41 | Xuerian | Wht break said <.< |
| 19:56.47 | ckknight | it'll spam |
| 19:56.52 | Neebler` | ckknight! I love you for making versionchecker. two questions: do other people need to use it in order for it to work? and secondly, how can I rename the fubar text to something shorter? |
| 19:57.07 | break19 | cant you intercept the blocked response? |
| 19:57.21 | ckknight | break19: there should be a better way. |
| 19:57.33 | break19 | agreed, but afaik, there isnt |
| 19:57.36 | ckknight | Neebler`: all they need is AceComm, just set VersionChecker.title to something else |
| 19:58.21 | Neebler` | there is no "VersionChecker.title" in VersionChecker.lua |
| 19:58.29 | ckknight | yea, so set it. |
| 19:58.46 | ckknight | to "VC" or something |
| 19:58.51 | break19 | <- not really a coder, but has a coder's mind (from his days coding mirc scripts, writing old basic games, writing bash scripts) etc :p |
| 19:59.07 | ckknight | I remember mIRC scripts ;-) |
| 19:59.14 | break19 | I've retired from coding.. dont feel like learning new languages lol |
| 19:59.47 | break19 | ckknight: ever heard of the old mirc script "Stealth Defender" or "Stealth Advanced" ? |
| 19:59.56 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. If I write a bag mod, I can't just inherit my slots from ContainerFrameItemButtonTemplate, since their being created by my mod will taint them, correct? |
| 20:00.01 | ckknight | nope, I did it 7 years ago |
| 20:00.23 | TheKarn | haha i used to code in mIRC's language |
| 20:00.30 | TheKarn | back in the days of colour scripts |
| 20:00.38 | break19 | ckknight: yea, as did I.. was an op on undernet's #mircscripts for years |
| 20:01.33 | Amadeo | mIRC scripts really died out, everything out there is junk now |
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| 20:02.10 | break19 | <- author of Stealth Advanced... had a flood contest with the 7th sphere guy once... I let him try to flood me off once, then it was my turn.. I won, he lost lol |
| 20:02.21 | Fisker- | ckknight do you know if you added some kind of targetting feature to a name in the chat, would it then be protected? |
| 20:02.39 | ckknight | Fisker-: %t? |
| 20:02.40 | ckknight | gtg |
| 20:02.45 | Fisker- | alright |
| 20:02.48 | Fisker- | see you later |
| 20:02.52 | break19 | i, in fact, also added a DoS attack.. needless to say, I was mean back then.. but.. i grew up .. some. lol |
| 20:03.10 | TheKarn | DoS attacks ftl |
| 20:03.17 | TheKarn | i remember when google got DoS'd |
| 20:03.17 | Fisker- | DDoS ftw |
| 20:03.31 | Fisker- | Well deserved :P |
| 20:03.32 | break19 | it would run ping -l 65535 targetsip from a right click menu :p |
| 20:04.08 | TheKarn | only from your ip/ |
| 20:04.23 | Amadeo | I only like mIRC or Klient in Windows, everything else just doesn't cut it for me |
| 20:04.26 | TheKarn | surely causing anyone else running your script to ping would have worked better |
| 20:04.30 | break19 | karn: yea.. when i was doin that stuff, no one bothered to backtrack the ips. lol |
| 20:05.00 | kergoth | Kaelten-Laptop: ping |
| 20:05.06 | Xuerian | While we're on the subject of pinging things, what's the version of the ping command that runs a couple-minute long analysis instead of simply pings? :P |
| 20:05.15 | break19 | TheKarn: nah, I didnt do the trojan thing.. my script was very good, and very hard to defeat.. I wasnt into gaining control of other's machines. |
| 20:05.19 | TheKarn | kergoth, kaelten isnt at his comp |
| 20:05.26 | durcyn | that used to be fun, pinging people with +++ATH0 as the payload. |
| 20:05.32 | break19 | Xuerian: I believe you are referring to a traceroute |
| 20:05.34 | durcyn | silly hayes modems |
| 20:05.35 | kergoth | doesnt matter, it'll end up in his logs i'm sure |
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| 20:05.40 | Xuerian | break19: Nope, I'm not. |
| 20:05.44 | TheKarn | hehe |
| 20:05.47 | Dhraga | evening all |
| 20:05.52 | durcyn | break19: ping is icmp, traceroute is udp, entirely different animals |
| 20:05.53 | kergoth | Xuerian: what information, exactly, are you trying to obtain? |
| 20:06.09 | break19 | durcyn: yea i know.. I'm just wondering exactly what Xuerian means... |
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| 20:06.34 | durcyn | break19: some kind of icmp analysis tool, shrug |
| 20:07.03 | Gnarfoz_ | how is traceroute udp, it's just a series of icmp echo requests with different TTLs |
| 20:07.03 | Xuerian | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:07.04 | _icetrain | Xuerian: mtr or winmtr |
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| 20:07.21 | Xuerian | Nope.. o.0 |
| 20:07.33 | durcyn | Gnarfoz_: it's not icmp echo. |
| 20:07.50 | [dRaCo] | anyone who feels responsible for closet gnome? |
| 20:08.01 | kergoth | [dRaCo]: i'll take a wild guess and say maybe its author. |
| 20:08.05 | Gnarfoz_ | durcyn: care to elaborate? oO |
| 20:08.09 | [dRaCo] | yeah... |
| 20:08.17 | [dRaCo] | in here, that is |
| 20:08.19 | kergoth | vhaarr is rabbit. |
| 20:08.19 | TheKarn | i want closet gnome to be more then it is :( |
| 20:08.21 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:08.29 | Xuerian | aha |
| 20:08.34 | Xuerian | Duh, checked sys32. "pathping" |
| 20:08.36 | Adirelle | who was working on CraftBot ? |
| 20:08.37 | durcyn | Gnarfoz_: by default traceroute sends udp packets with incrementing TTLs and listens for ICMP 11 |
| 20:08.43 | Gnarfoz_ | hm |
| 20:08.46 | Gnarfoz_ | ah yes, you're right |
| 20:08.48 | [dRaCo] | vhaarr: found a bug, at least I think so. |
| 20:08.52 | Gnarfoz_ | but it can be told to do ICMP echo, too |
| 20:09.13 | durcyn | this is true, but not default =) |
| 20:09.18 | Xelar | any one know where the oTravi addons went ? |
| 20:09.20 | Feldia | ckknight: is there anyway we could get an option in Guild Postion (cartographer) to customize what's on the tooltips? |
| 20:09.30 | durcyn | i like to ask that question on job interviews, seperates the men from the script kiddies :o |
| 20:09.38 | durcyn | Xelar: fuxsake.net |
| 20:09.44 | Gnarfoz_ | I was foiled by microsoft: windows tracert always does that by default |
| 20:09.44 | Xuerian | break19: sys32/pathping.exe |
| 20:09.50 | Xelar | durcyn thx |
| 20:10.16 | durcyn | Gnarfoz_: really? ms's net tools should be straight bsd ripoffs |
| 20:10.25 | break19 | Xuerian: hm. k |
| 20:10.37 | Gnarfoz_ | dunno, it's even 8.3 converted, "tracert" ;< |
| 20:10.59 | break19 | I dont have a sys32 folder, nor any programs that end with .exe :p |
| 20:11.06 | Gnarfoz_ | at least enough people editing wikipedia thought so, no-one edited it out yet ;) |
| 20:11.29 | durcyn | Gnarfoz_: but then you can tell they spent some quality time breaking them after pillaging the berkeley code. watch what ping does when you feed it leading zeroes on an octet |
| 20:11.35 | break19 | most of my gui apps end with .app - the terminal apps dont have an extension at all |
| 20:11.46 | Gnarfoz_ | I don't even want to do that *cringe* |
| 20:12.08 | Gnarfoz_ | rather, I'd like my apache php5+php4-cgi thing to work >_> |
| 20:12.12 | Xuerian | break19: Unless you're catching me abbreviating system32 to sys32 and using a forward instead of backslash, well, I was only telling you what I meant, on a windows system :p |
| 20:12.16 | durcyn | it's not horrible, just parses it as octal in a non-obvious way |
| 20:12.43 | Adirelle | ckknight: even if Carto GuildPositions sends english zone name, could it receive localized one ? |
| 20:12.47 | break19 | Xuerian: windows shmindows.. OSX ftw :p |
| 20:12.53 | TheKarn | EWWWW |
| 20:12.56 | TheKarn | Apple FTL |
| 20:13.05 | Xuerian | break19: I won't argue that, I just don't have one ;P |
| 20:13.34 | durcyn | blah. use what works for you. let other people use what works for them. platform advocacy fights are as bad as religion and politics =P |
| 20:13.35 | Amadeo | Apple's being sued by everyone these days |
| 20:13.42 | Amadeo | Plus, Steve Jobs is a crook :P |
| 20:13.58 | TheKarn | i put up with windows |
| 20:14.04 | break19 | heh |
| 20:14.34 | break19 | I used PCs nearly all of my life until a few years ago.. was swayed by OSX's unix command line |
| 20:14.37 | Amadeo | I agree with durcyn |
| 20:14.45 | vhaarr | [dRaCo]: Bug in what? |
| 20:14.47 | Amadeo | Too many people are OS fanboys |
| 20:14.57 | TheKarn | break19, you do realise a lot of PCs have a unix command line |
| 20:15.07 | TheKarn | BSD, linux etc |
| 20:15.08 | break19 | TheKarn: yes, they do.. mine did as well |
| 20:15.17 | durcyn | Amadeo: correct! and if the world was a perfect place we'd all be using AmigaOS anyway. |
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| 20:15.54 | break19 | TheKarn: apple's implementation of the GUI was far better than anything else out there, for me anyway |
| 20:15.57 | Amadeo | 4.0? :P |
| 20:16.30 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r25919 10/tags/ (7253 files in 555 dirs): .Line ending fixups: tags/ |
| 20:16.38 | Xuerian | ... o_o |
| 20:16.38 | kergoth | hahah |
| 20:16.40 | kergoth | what a commit |
| 20:16.47 | Xuerian | good lord. |
| 20:16.51 | kergoth | that was TAGS |
| 20:16.51 | TheKarn | lol |
| 20:16.55 | kergoth | the smallest area of the repository |
| 20:16.59 | kergoth | wait for my next ones |
| 20:16.59 | break19 | TheKarn: plus, there are more commercial games for macs than linux, and wine wasnt working for me on any of the games I tried to play... so I went mac. :p |
| 20:17.00 | TheKarn | kergoth, what are you doing atm? |
| 20:17.01 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:17.15 | kergoth | i'm ensuring that no files have inconsistent line endings (both unix and dos style in one file) |
| 20:17.20 | TheKarn | break19, thats why you dualboot |
| 20:17.22 | break19 | TheKarn: doesnt hurt that my PCs were destroyed in a hurricane, and went to laptops |
| 20:17.23 | kergoth | and ensuring that all files have the appropriate svn:eol-style property |
| 20:17.26 | TheKarn | XP Lite for gaming |
| 20:17.26 | kergoth | so it wont happen again |
| 20:17.31 | pastamancer | haha |
| 20:17.42 | Amadeo | I think it sucks that anyone should have to dual boot these days |
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| 20:17.47 | Xuerian | Get fed up, kergy? :p |
| 20:17.47 | kergoth | there were about 20 files with wrong endings just in tags alone. |
| 20:17.50 | kergoth | yeah |
| 20:17.50 | break19 | TheKarn: see what Amadeo said :p |
| 20:17.54 | TheKarn | pastamancer, you get my message from before? |
| 20:18.00 | kergoth | got kael to give me local access so i could at least get the commits done relaitvely quicly |
| 20:18.05 | pastamancer | TheKarn: yeah, line endings suck |
| 20:18.10 | Xuerian | Honestly, I'd jump for OSX and Paralells. |
| 20:18.14 | TheKarn | yup |
| 20:18.14 | kergoth | i tried this before, by the time the commit got across the line, someone else would commit and break me :P |
| 20:18.19 | break19 | TheKarn: also see what Xuerian said :) |
| 20:18.41 | Xuerian | lol, kergoth. |
| 20:18.42 | Amadeo | I want someone to compare WoW fps in OS X and Windows with the same hardware |
| 20:19.11 | durcyn | not sure about same hardware, but i can tell you that the onboard mac mini video suxbad =( |
| 20:19.13 | break19 | plus, I switched to mac before the intel jump... back when even the bottom-end macs still had excellent graphics cards |
| 20:19.17 | Xuerian | Amadeo: It'll depend on if said hardware includes a multicore processor/multiple processors, or not, I think |
| 20:19.33 | break19 | the intel mac mini makes me wanna cry with it's shared video ram setup :/ |
| 20:19.48 | Amadeo | Xuerian: I'm more curious about the quality of OpenGL on OS X compared to DirectX in Windows |
| 20:20.18 | Xuerian | Amadeo: Indeed, it would be something to see. I'm curious about OGL2 vs DX10 in a working implementation, too. |
| 20:20.46 | TheKarn | i also dont like apple's "our os only runs on our hardware" when the majority of the hardware is the same |
| 20:20.56 | Amadeo | I can't get WoW OpenGL in Linux (wine) to go over 15-ish fps in an area of Outlands, so I want to know if OS X implementation is faster |
| 20:20.58 | vhaarr | [dRaCo]: Bug in what? |
| 20:21.00 | TheKarn | infact afaik its only the bios that differs |
| 20:21.28 | vhaarr | [dRaCo]: If you replied already, you did a bad job at it; prepend my nick, please. |
| 20:21.32 | durcyn | TheKarn: i admire them for it. it's allowed them to do more in the past few years in changing hardware than MS could pull off in 20. |
| 20:21.50 | TheKarn | how? what have they changed? |
| 20:21.57 | Xuerian | TheKarn: As was mentioned somewhere I read, though a pain, I like that they have done that. Like durcyn said, hardware changes are easier when you're the one doing the hardware. |
| 20:22.01 | durcyn | 68000->PPC->intel |
| 20:22.17 | Xuerian | TheKarn: Aside from processors, things like Firewire were picked up very quickly. |
| 20:22.22 | TheKarn | and by intel you mean x86? |
| 20:22.30 | durcyn | meanwhile everyone and their dog with a korean-made ibm clone is suffering through PC99 |
| 20:22.30 | TheKarn | Firewire is hardly used |
| 20:22.36 | durcyn | x86-64, yes |
| 20:22.51 | TheKarn | i love that you call x86-64, intel. |
| 20:22.59 | durcyn | they're using intel chips, sir |
| 20:23.13 | durcyn | and i do realize that it's amd's instruction set |
| 20:23.42 | TheKarn | they may be made by intel, but the instructionset is amd. and the chip itself is a standard instruction set. its not "intel" its an "intel made x86-64" |
| 20:23.55 | Amadeo | I don't mind that OS X is restricted to Apple hardware, but Apple desktops have limited hardware options, so, it's not always the perfect solution for people |
| 20:24.16 | durcyn | anyway, show me another OS maker that's managed to shift their platform across three CPUs in 5 years, with as little headache |
| 20:24.40 | durcyn | TheKarn: no need to get angry, i hated itanic as much as the next guy =P |
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| 20:25.12 | break19 | wow, what did I start? sheesh |
| 20:25.36 | Amadeo | I wanna see a Mac Pro with dual 8800 GTX support :P |
| 20:25.36 | Xuerian | Never underestimate fellow coders, break19. We tend to be extremely opinionated :P |
| 20:25.47 | kergoth | hmm |
| 20:25.47 | kergoth | damnit |
| 20:25.49 | kergoth | svn lock is slow |
| 20:25.52 | TheKarn | if Apple wanted to expand their market they'd make OSX work on standard X86(-64) hardware instead of forcing people who wanted to move to OSX to buy they're hardware |
| 20:26.20 | durcyn | that doesn't work with the business model |
| 20:26.28 | break19 | TheKarn: they'd *lose* their market.. they consider themselves a hardware vendor |
| 20:26.34 | durcyn | apple is a hardware manufacturer that happens to include an OS with their expensive boxen |
| 20:26.34 | Amadeo | Apple isn't a software company though, so they force people to buy their hardware to make them money |
| 20:26.49 | durcyn | if they turn the software loose, they die |
| 20:27.46 | TheKarn | but the fact is, their expensive boxes are not in the slightest better then most x86-64 systems |
| 20:29.07 | TheKarn | i wont even start on iPods :P |
| 20:30.00 | durcyn | yes, it's standard hardware, but it's packaged in a way that is appealing, and the software is easier for the average joe sixpack to use. that's where the value is, not in any high nobile FOSS philosophy or something :/ |
| 20:30.10 | durcyn | noble even |
| 20:30.18 | Amadeo | I'm not a huge Windows fan, but I stick with it because it's the only OS that you have no limits to gaming on |
| 20:30.30 | TheKarn | durcyn, so the fact is, its their software that's their strong point. |
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| 20:32.09 | break19 | Amadeo: and that is precisely *why* there's limits on other OSs.. people stick with what they know.. so developers target the largest audience |
| 20:32.09 | Amadeo | If I could pick up Linux or OS X and have the same capability, I'd switch in an instant |
| 20:32.24 | break19 | Amadeo: there are a couple of mac gaming companies dedicated to porting pc games to mac |
| 20:32.44 | Amadeo | Yeah, but losing DirectX is huge...that's practically all developers use anymore |
| 20:32.47 | TheKarn | the thing i dont understand, they port to mac but not Linux |
| 20:32.48 | yacoob | keyword being 'couple' :) |
| 20:32.51 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r25920 10/branches/ (1007 files in 128 dirs): .Line ending fixups: branches/ |
| 20:32.58 | Klazar | does WoW error folder capture UI errors |
| 20:33.14 | yacoob | TheKarn, Linux is too selective about who it makes friends with |
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| 20:33.25 | break19 | yacoob: there doesnt need to be many, the company ports most popular pc games pretty quickly: www.aspyr.com |
| 20:33.38 | Amadeo | I think even Carmack said DirectX had surpassed OpenGL...maybe I misread the quote, but I thought I read something like that |
| 20:33.44 | yacoob | it's getting better, but there's no company behind Linux to scream about it |
| 20:33.46 | vhaarr | kergoth: You go, girl! |
| 20:33.55 | vhaarr | ;) |
| 20:33.56 | yacoob | Well... I have high hopes in ubuntu :) |
| 20:34.18 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:34.31 | Saroz | Nice, gotta a lot of guildies using cartographer, so now I can keep track of them :p |
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| 20:35.06 | OnlyKeeper | hi, where i may download DeuceCommander ? |
| 20:35.11 | vhaarr | kergoth: You added a precommit hook? |
| 20:35.15 | vhaarr | OnlyKeeper: wowace.com/files |
| 20:35.18 | _neuron_ | "Amadeo> I think even Carmack said DirectX had surpassed OpenGL...maybe I misread the quote, but I thought I read something like that" <-- he said the exact opposite |
| 20:35.24 | OnlyKeeper | hm.. thx :) |
| 20:35.26 | Amadeo | _neuron_: Recently? |
| 20:35.28 | _neuron_ | and he called directx10 fairly useless (in so many words) |
| 20:35.34 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:35.34 | _neuron_ | yes, it was in a bit about dx10 iirc |
| 20:35.36 | ckknight | OnlyKeeper: files.wowace.com |
| 20:35.38 | ckknight | Amadeo: yes |
| 20:35.47 | Amadeo | That's strange, I thought I read he was going to use it for an upcoming game |
| 20:36.11 | _neuron_ | possible, he said it was useless now, with current software/hardware |
| 20:36.19 | _neuron_ | he didn't say anything about future stuff in the quote I read |
| 20:36.35 | Amadeo | it was a while ago, so I don't really remember, I wish I had the article still |
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| 20:36.54 | Amadeo | DX10 is pretty pointless for the time being...but I have to say that Crysis looks amazing |
| 20:37.10 | kergoth | vhaarr: altered the existing one, it checks by author and reports "Commits temporarily disabled for repository maintainance. See kergoth for details." if it isnt me :P |
| 20:37.16 | _neuron_ | 99% of the crysis stuff released is dx9 though |
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| 20:37.30 | vhaarr | kergoth: haha |
| 20:37.30 | Amadeo | _neuron_: The video? |
| 20:37.35 | vhaarr | excellent |
| 20:37.39 | _neuron_ | there has been more than one video |
| 20:37.55 | Amadeo | I only saw one fly-by video |
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| 20:40.05 | ckknight | http://www.gamespot.com/news/6164522.html?part=rss&tag=gs_news&subj=6164522 |
| 20:41.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Check owt ma new ClearFont website, man - http://www.clearfont.co.uk/ |
| 20:41.28 | Josh_Borke | Kirkburn|afk: have you been drinking? |
| 20:41.33 | kergoth | Kirkburn|afk: perty |
| 20:41.35 | Kirkburn|afk | I feel like I should write that again in Queen's English :P |
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| 20:41.53 | Amadeo | World of Starcraft - I wish :) |
| 20:42.02 | kergoth | the header hurts my brain though |
| 20:42.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Went from a full table layour to fully divs. |
| 20:42.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Awww, I love my header |
| 20:42.24 | kergoth | no worries, i'll remove it |
| 20:42.26 | kergoth | <3 greasemonkey |
| 20:42.33 | Kirkburn|afk | It's a Magic Eye, really, I promise ;) |
| 20:42.48 | durcyn | I think you're lying. |
| 20:42.54 | Kirkburn|afk | :( |
| 20:43.06 | kergoth | greasemonkey and stylish are such kickass ff extensions |
| 20:43.11 | durcyn | but i never could make those magic eye buggers work, so i think every one of them is lying. |
| 20:43.34 | kergoth | trunk commit is gonna be a whopper |
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| 20:44.07 | Antiarc|Work | It's a sailboat! |
| 20:44.17 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r25921 10/trunk/ (1219 files in 410 dirs): .Line ending fixups: trunk/ |
| 20:44.17 | kergoth | neat, apache2 showed 101% cpu in top |
| 20:44.24 | kergoth | wow, not as bad as i figured |
| 20:44.24 | kergoth | cool |
| 20:44.27 | kergoth | now |
| 20:44.28 | kergoth | people |
| 20:44.30 | Kirkburn|afk | bloody hell |
| 20:44.32 | kergoth | go learn about svn autoprops |
| 20:44.33 | kergoth | right now |
| 20:44.34 | Saroz | omg commit |
| 20:44.37 | kergoth | before i break out the cluebat |
| 20:44.42 | _neuron_ | haha |
| 20:44.43 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: Reader's digest version please |
| 20:44.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Um, is every single addon gonna update now? |
| 20:45.13 | _neuron_ | kergoth, you an/the svn admin so I can talk to you about access, or should I mail? |
| 20:45.17 | ckknight | lol, kergoth |
| 20:45.22 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work: automatically sets properties when you add files |
| 20:45.36 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work: specifically, things like mime type or (in this case) svn:eol-style |
| 20:45.51 | Antiarc|Work | Fair enough. |
| 20:45.53 | vhaarr | kergoth: What if I set them manually? |
| 20:45.56 | vhaarr | kergoth: I use LF. |
| 20:46.04 | kergoth | what do you mean? |
| 20:46.06 | vhaarr | For my addons. |
| 20:46.10 | vhaarr | svn:eol-style: LF. |
| 20:46.15 | ckknight | vhaarr: it should be native. |
| 20:46.19 | kergoth | ahh |
| 20:46.28 | vhaarr | ckknight: It should be whatever I want it to be. |
| 20:46.30 | kergoth | well, in that case you'll have to change it back, sorry about that, i shouldve checked for it |
| 20:46.32 | vhaarr | Which is LF. |
| 20:46.43 | kergoth | ckknight: well, if he wants lf on windows too, so be it |
| 20:46.55 | kergoth | hmm |
| 20:47.13 | kergoth | i'll do a quick script to check for old property value |
| 20:47.18 | kergoth | wont take long |
| 20:48.22 | Kirkburn|afk | What was that change actually about in layman's terms? |
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| 20:48.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Wait, you already did that? |
| 20:48.42 | durcyn | Kirkburn|afk: cr and lf fight to the death |
| 20:48.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Sets what properties? |
| 20:50.56 | vhaarr | svn:eol-style |
| 20:52.30 | Koaschten | uhm |
| 20:52.32 | kergoth | fixed all files with inconsistent line endings, and set snv:eol-style to native. |
| 20:52.45 | Koaschten | any1 know what "hit avoidance rating" does? |
| 20:52.49 | kergoth | vhaarr: script is running now, undoing teh change to anything that had eol-style set to something other than native previously. |
| 20:53.15 | vhaarr | kergoth: nice |
| 20:53.32 | vid` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaORMVbkzZo |
| 20:53.58 | xyu` | i hope playerrating works soon. that's sth i've been looking for. i always forget who screws me from back in the day. |
| 20:54.02 | xyu` | :D |
| 20:54.05 | vid` | that kid is so stoned |
| 20:54.12 | yacoob | xyu`, player rating? |
| 20:54.15 | xyu` | yeah |
| 20:54.21 | vid` | xyu from sin? |
| 20:54.26 | xyu` | yes |
| 20:54.27 | vid` | lol |
| 20:54.29 | vid` | yo mofo |
| 20:54.33 | vid` | vidmaster from saecula |
| 20:54.34 | xyu` | sup vid |
| 20:54.38 | xyu` | yea |
| 20:54.42 | Ominous | anyone else having problems with teh toc --> wiki infobox script? |
| 20:55.10 | xyu` | i transfered back off gorefiend though, it was just such a terrible server. |
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| 20:55.22 | xyu` | and i didn't really fit in with sin since i haven't played with them since release day |
| 20:55.39 | vid` | we restarted on onyxia |
| 20:55.44 | xyu` | and since this game makes you mass recruit, well, just felt different :/ |
| 20:55.54 | vid` | some of our guys transferred from LS too |
| 20:55.54 | xyu` | oh really? |
| 20:55.57 | vid` | yea |
| 20:55.58 | xyu` | whole guild transfered? |
| 20:56.04 | vid` | some |
| 20:56.04 | ggilbert|remote | ooops. leaving irc on is a quick route to a dead battery |
| 20:56.06 | xyu` | neat, i didn't know that. |
| 20:56.07 | xyu` | ah |
| 20:56.12 | vid` | we were top horde guild for awhile |
| 20:56.16 | vid` | but now we're back to our roots |
| 20:56.19 | vid` | small tight group pvping |
| 20:56.25 | xyu` | yeah, that's what i like |
| 20:56.29 | vid` | pve is dead for now |
| 20:56.37 | vid` | for us |
| 20:56.45 | xyu` | yeah. its funny, so many people are so used to carebearing |
| 20:56.49 | xyu` | that they like quest next to each other |
| 20:56.58 | xyu` | i'm just ... and pew pew any red i see |
| 20:57.07 | xyu` | my whole server is carebear |
| 20:57.13 | yacoob | xyu`, i mean, where this player rating would be implemented? addon, or by blizzard in game? |
| 20:57.15 | vid` | yea |
| 20:57.25 | xyu` | yacoob, its an ace2 addon |
| 20:57.26 | vid` | we went to honor hold last night, and were ganking people @ the bank for like 30 mins |
| 20:57.31 | vid` | :\ |
| 20:57.34 | yacoob | ah. then it will probably fail. |
| 20:57.44 | xyu` | nah its just for your own use |
| 20:57.46 | yacoob | I mean, it will not have enough people using it. |
| 20:57.50 | xyu` | its a simple concept |
| 20:57.56 | yacoob | ah, for yourself... |
| 20:57.57 | xyu` | oh i dont really care if people use it |
| 20:58.07 | yacoob | I saw a mod that actually *shared* data |
| 20:58.10 | yacoob | like, ratings |
| 20:58.11 | xyu` | i'll just use it to tell me, hey this guy stole my quest mob, etc. |
| 20:58.14 | xyu` | no this one does that oo |
| 20:58.14 | yacoob | *that* was insane :D |
| 20:58.15 | xyu` | too |
| 20:58.18 | vid` | isnt there a mod called playerratings? |
| 20:58.22 | xyu` | yes |
| 20:58.23 | vid` | that what you're talking about? |
| 20:58.27 | xyu` | yep |
| 20:58.27 | yacoob | probably |
| 20:58.33 | yacoob | can't remember exact name :) |
| 20:58.47 | xyu` | anyway, happy about todays patch |
| 20:58.51 | xyu` | mage buffs, hunter nerfs |
| 20:58.51 | xyu` | yay |
| 20:59.15 | kergoth | yacoob: playerrating says it does support sharing of the info, but only from people above a certain rating themselves.. i'm sure you'd be able to set that threshold |
| 20:59.15 | yacoob | can anyone point me to changelog for that? |
| 20:59.58 | xyu` | i can't get the addon to even work properly now. buggrabber goes insane and stops working for 60s over and over until i disable player ratings |
| 21:00.05 | yacoob | kergoth, but my point is, you'd need to get people to use it. And a lot of them, or there would be people asking each other for high grades, falsyfinig the whole thing |
| 21:00.40 | yacoob | kergoth, like, put the functionality in BOTH ctra and ora. That would make a good userbase :) |
| 21:00.40 | kergoth | not really, no. |
| 21:00.40 | kergoth | if i were to set the threshold of acceptance above the default of 0, i'd only get data from people i trust. |
| 21:00.45 | kergoth | its up to me whose data i accept |
| 21:00.55 | xyu` | yep |
| 21:01.00 | kergoth | its just a rudamentary trust system |
| 21:01.18 | yacoob | Nooo, help, this is only a game! :DDD |
| 21:01.24 | durcyn | reputation economies are fascinating beasts |
| 21:01.28 | xyu` | what class are you vid? |
| 21:01.31 | yacoob | "Welcome to first WoW keysigning party!" :D |
| 21:01.38 | kergoth | wtf, theres a zomgpleasedontdie directory in branches |
| 21:02.00 | _neuron_ | lol |
| 21:02.19 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:02.27 | nevcairiel | what was clads test commit iirc |
| 21:02.34 | Amadeo | wow, huge Priest nerf in that patch |
| 21:02.43 | kergoth | did 2.0.6 hit live? |
| 21:02.45 | kenlyric | lol. |
| 21:02.47 | Amadeo | yep |
| 21:02.49 | xyu` | yea |
| 21:02.49 | kergoth | cool |
| 21:02.53 | _neuron_ | changelog anywhere? |
| 21:02.54 | kenlyric | it's a huger nerf to hunters and mages. |
| 21:02.55 | kergoth | can remove petbarfix and gongkiller then |
| 21:03.06 | xyu` | nah |
| 21:03.06 | xyu` | not bad for mages |
| 21:03.06 | _neuron_ | or post with info on what blizzard changed but didn't tell us about |
| 21:03.09 | xyu` | i like mages change |
| 21:03.09 | Amadeo | kenlyric: Hunters and Mages can afford to be nerfed |
| 21:03.14 | xyu` | that 2% on our fireball only = about 200 dmg |
| 21:03.17 | kenlyric | mages? lol. |
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| 21:03.27 | xyu` | cs no global is a much bigger buff |
| 21:03.28 | Amadeo | Yeah, Mages |
| 21:03.30 | kenlyric | mages are easysauce... I melt their faces. |
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| 21:03.35 | xyu` | as is mana shield absorbs magic now |
| 21:03.39 | xyu` | !>?! |
| 21:03.40 | xyu` | wut class |
| 21:03.44 | vid` | xyu |
| 21:03.44 | xyu` | you better say warlock/ hunter :D |
| 21:03.47 | vid` | same class as every game |
| 21:03.48 | vid` | :P |
| 21:03.49 | vid` | mage |
| 21:03.50 | kenlyric | priest. |
| 21:03.53 | _neuron_ | shadow prist ofc, melting faces |
| 21:03.56 | _neuron_ | *priest |
| 21:03.57 | Amadeo | Wait until Mages one shot you |
| 21:04.00 | ckknight | once I download, I'll put up a diff of the framexml |
| 21:04.03 | vid` | ive played a mage since ultima online in 97 |
| 21:04.06 | Adirelle_ | ckknight: GetNoteIcon hook works perfectly |
| 21:04.08 | xyu` | vid, same |
| 21:04.13 | vid` | i know i remember |
| 21:04.14 | vid` | :P |
| 21:04.17 | vid` | hehe |
| 21:04.20 | kenlyric | Amadeo: hah, like I let that happen. |
| 21:04.26 | Bruners | is there a major update on all addons today or is there something bugged with my WoWAceUpdater? |
| 21:04.26 | vid` | UO had the best mages though |
| 21:04.27 | xyu` | i've never played a melee class in any game ever :/ |
| 21:04.34 | vid` | same here |
| 21:04.40 | xyu` | haha yeah, well i guess i could be considered anything there. |
| 21:04.40 | Amadeo | kenlyric: Like you have an option |
| 21:04.43 | durcyn | Bruners: kergoth is hunting witches =) |
| 21:04.57 | kergoth | indeed. |
| 21:05.00 | kenlyric | it's a mage. Run up and silence while they're trying to poly :) |
| 21:05.11 | xyu` | then? |
| 21:05.18 | Amadeo | Mages don't Poly Priests |
| 21:05.22 | Amadeo | maybe in duels |
| 21:05.26 | xyu` | my mana shield will be absorbing your dots now sucka! |
| 21:05.31 | vid` | yea |
| 21:05.33 | xyu` | no more dying to priests i just killed |
| 21:05.33 | xyu` | woot |
| 21:05.36 | vid` | time to pump points into improved mana shield |
| 21:05.44 | Amadeo | er |
| 21:05.46 | vid` | good thing im not 70 yet |
| 21:05.47 | Amadeo | Mana Shield = Dispel |
| 21:05.48 | vid` | so dont have to respec :) |
| 21:05.51 | xyu` | rofl |
| 21:05.56 | xyu` | mana shield so easy to recast |
| 21:05.57 | vid` | no cooldown on mana shield either |
| 21:05.59 | vid` | which is nice |
| 21:06.01 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r25922 10/ (54 files in 20 dirs): .Line ending fixups: for files that already had an eol-style set to something other than native, revert to their preferred eol style. |
| 21:06.10 | vid` | and its like 200 mana |
| 21:06.16 | kergoth | okay, there we are |
| 21:06.23 | kergoth | i'll allow commits again, i think we're okay |
| 21:06.30 | workism | Sorry to be any trouble but is there a Ace addon that places an auto lockpick box in the trade window? |
| 21:06.32 | Amadeo | I had a low 60's Mage insta-Pyro my 63 Warlock for nearly 5000 damage |
| 21:06.36 | _neuron_ | kergoth, this is great, now you get the new svn mirrors properly tested :P |
| 21:06.41 | kergoth | _neuron_: hehe |
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| 21:06.55 | _neuron_ | if this works patch day is gonna be no problem :P |
| 21:06.57 | kergoth | according to kael, svn.wowace.com is no longer round robin. |
| 21:07.06 | kergoth | its just svn1. |
| 21:07.18 | xyu` | i'm surprised at how much my mages HP is scaling |
| 21:07.25 | durcyn | svn.wowace.com is an alias for wowace.renchap.com. |
| 21:07.25 | durcyn | wowace.renchap.com has address 91.121.2.173 |
| 21:07.32 | durcyn | that's all it's pointed at atm |
| 21:07.38 | kergoth | okay, commits are open again |
| 21:07.42 | xyu` | i'm 67 and i have like 5300 HP, at lvl 60 i was squishy as hell @ 3500 HP |
| 21:07.44 | xyu` | 7 levels did that |
| 21:07.50 | Arrowmaster | well svn1 hasnt been uptodate for me |
| 21:07.51 | xyu` | same gear practically |
| 21:08.09 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: make sure you dont have a hosts entry for svn.wowace.com. there are no mirrors to get out of sync. |
| 21:08.11 | _neuron_ | xyu`, I'm a caster, I'm level 63, and I have 6k hp, what am I |
| 21:08.14 | Adirelle_ | ckknight: about sending english and localized zone in Cart Guild Positions : http://ace.pastey.net/5439 |
| 21:08.21 | xyu` | a bastard |
| 21:08.25 | Amadeo | haha |
| 21:08.27 | durcyn | _neuron_: hello fellow warlock. |
| 21:08.28 | xyu` | skillcoil! |
| 21:08.29 | _neuron_ | <3 |
| 21:08.30 | Firedancer | i have no hosts entry for svn.wowace.com and it's behing by about 50 revs |
| 21:08.30 | nymbia | xyu`: yeah, i've got 6300ish at 70, and still wearing mostly t2/t2.5 |
| 21:08.38 | Firedancer | behind* |
| 21:08.40 | CIA-17 | 03galeni * r25923 10HotMan/ (HotMan.lua HotMan.toc): |
| 21:08.40 | CIA-17 | HotMan: Fixed externals |
| 21:08.40 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.42 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle 07filters * r25924 10Cartographer_Quests/Cartographer_Quests/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:08.42 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests: |
| 21:08.42 | CIA-17 | - trivial and available filters work properly, |
| 21:08.42 | CIA-17 | - added grey icons for active and unavailable quests. |
| 21:08.44 | vid` | i got 5100hp @ 64 |
| 21:08.46 | xyu` | How much do 70 warriors have? |
| 21:08.52 | nymbia | lots |
| 21:08.52 | vid` | and im mostly in pre BC gear |
| 21:08.54 | renchap | <= warlock, lvl 66, 8000hp |
| 21:08.56 | xyu` | like normal pvp gear |
| 21:08.57 | nymbia | 9k unbuffed |
| 21:08.58 | durcyn | xyu`: one of our DN tanks is at 11.5K |
| 21:09.03 | *** join/#wowace Batos (n=Batos@193.69.144.170) |
| 21:09.04 | vid` | mostly in high warlord / tier 1 |
| 21:09.05 | Amadeo | Haha, everyone knows Warriors aren't leveling to 70! They became Warlocks! |
| 21:09.07 | vid` | shrug |
| 21:09.09 | xyu` | well DN is geared |
| 21:09.13 | xyu` | instance whores |
| 21:09.17 | vid` | i never got tier2 cause we stopped raiding! |
| 21:09.22 | vid` | right when we started bwl |
| 21:09.34 | xyu` | i'm talking those 90% population reroll warriors in GM pvp gear and tier 2 |
| 21:09.35 | vid` | and i had tier 1 legs/helm already so i was last to get tier2 of those |
| 21:10.02 | vid` | and now im lucky if i got time to raid working 12 hours a day |
| 21:10.05 | Amadeo | Did you guys see that Priest arena video where they killed a Warrior team using wands (and heals) only? |
| 21:10.07 | vid` | i sleep 3 hours a night just so i can play wow |
| 21:10.32 | vhaarr | Amadeo: Stacking HoTs ftw. |
| 21:10.44 | Barbanus | ckknight, did you find a way to check if you can send a message to guild chat? |
| 21:10.45 | Amadeo | I think they were mostly in Shadowform |
| 21:10.46 | Amadeo | haha |
| 21:10.48 | ckknight | Amadeo: ah, nah. |
| 21:10.49 | xyu` | i wish there was a class restriction on rated pvp games |
| 21:10.55 | ckknight | Barbanus: I need to download the patch |
| 21:11.05 | CIA-17 | 03galeni * r25925 10HotMan/ (HotMan.toc libs/): HotMan: Added support for AceDebug |
| 21:11.05 | Amadeo | maybe not |
| 21:11.06 | Amadeo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFAjCo12vTw |
| 21:11.07 | Amadeo | there it is |
| 21:11.08 | _neuron_ | I which there was an age restriction on the dark portal |
| 21:11.12 | Barbanus | ckknight, there is a way tho? |
| 21:11.14 | ckknight | lol, _neuron_ |
| 21:11.35 | ckknight | Barbanus: my idea is to send it, then intercept any block messages within a 5-second timeframe |
| 21:11.37 | durcyn | i say again, blizzard needs an NC-17 server. |
| 21:11.40 | _neuron_ | yeah |
| 21:11.44 | ckknight | durcyn: I would so love that. |
| 21:11.48 | _neuron_ | maybe an IQ restriction, that'd be better. |
| 21:11.52 | _neuron_ | but a bit tricky to implement |
| 21:11.55 | xyu` | durcyn just wants all the elves to be naked |
| 21:11.56 | ckknight | mmm... no |
| 21:12.00 | vhaarr | kergoth: grrr, now it's conflicting all my changed local files that had svn:eol-style LF. |
| 21:12.08 | ckknight | you do realize that a smart 12-year-old is still immature, right? |
| 21:12.09 | _neuron_ | I'd love to get a [GM]Whoever says to you : Are you ready for your mandatory IQ test? |
| 21:12.10 | vhaarr | kergoth: Which was quite a few. |
| 21:12.16 | durcyn | xyu`: nah, just player age. |
| 21:12.24 | xyu` | lies! |
| 21:12.25 | _neuron_ | ckknight, well, both then :P |
| 21:12.37 | durcyn | i did the whole naked patch thing, it was very underwhelming |
| 21:12.37 | kergoth | argh, thats stupid. your update should know that the delta to native was reverted by the delta to lf :( |
| 21:13.10 | vhaarr | oh god this is fucking nonsense |
| 21:13.12 | kergoth | vhaarr: just chose your version |
| 21:13.13 | kergoth | y |
| 21:13.14 | ckknight | Amadeo: I'd prefer if everyone just updated. I haven't pushed to release sites yet for that reason |
| 21:13.17 | kergoth | on each merge |
| 21:13.18 | Koaschten | naaah |
| 21:13.21 | vhaarr | it'll take me 30min to clean up |
| 21:13.25 | Koaschten | you know my favourite gm answer? |
| 21:13.33 | kergoth | all you have to do his choose yours, itll throw out the inbound change |
| 21:13.35 | xyu` | I don't know? |
| 21:13.38 | _neuron_ | working as intended |
| 21:13.41 | Koaschten | "do you have a moment to talk about your ticket?" "no we are about to pull moroes" "umph" |
| 21:13.46 | Amadeo | ckknight: I think that was Barbanus :) |
| 21:13.49 | _neuron_ | lol |
| 21:14.08 | vid` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asNdZ0h_3XY |
| 21:14.09 | ckknight | wait, it was adrielle |
| 21:14.13 | vid` | that video is awsesome |
| 21:14.17 | vid` | awesome* |
| 21:14.20 | ckknight | Adirelle_* |
| 21:14.24 | Amadeo | ckknight: A is kinda close to B |
| 21:14.38 | Amadeo | at least in the alphabet... :P |
| 21:14.46 | Adirelle_ | ckknight: ? |
| 21:15.03 | ckknight | Adirelle_: I'd prefer if everyone just update instead of doing your hack |
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| 21:15.26 | Adirelle_ | ckknight: I'd prefer too, but I can't force my guildmate to do so... :s |
| 21:15.42 | durcyn | sure you can, that's what cluebats are for. |
| 21:15.43 | ckknight | update it locally for yourself, then |
| 21:15.50 | ckknight | but I'm not going to put it in trunk |
| 21:15.51 | durcyn | LART them. |
| 21:15.59 | kergoth | vhaarr: or just copy your local changes out, svn up,a nd overwrite. |
| 21:16.06 | kergoth | vhaarr: if you cant choose your version on each merge |
| 21:16.18 | vhaarr | kergoth: Thanks, I know how to fix it, it's pissing me off anyway. |
| 21:16.22 | ckknight | gah, does anyone have a mirror to the patch? (Mac) |
| 21:16.22 | Adirelle_ | ckknight: oki, I'll try to live with it |
| 21:16.41 | kergoth | vhaarr: sorry about that, my script really shouldve checked for that :\ |
| 21:17.17 | vhaarr | yeah, stupid svn though |
| 21:18.00 | kergoth | yea, it shouldve been smarter about it. its merging multiple revisions, it should be smart enought o merge the revs into one chang eto apply locally, not try and do it piecemeal |
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| 21:23.15 | kenlyric | so, when closetgnome can't find an item, it just breaks the outfit? |
| 21:23.44 | Wobin | no? |
| 21:23.50 | Wobin | it wears what it can |
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| 21:24.21 | kenlyric | yeah, but when I go out of combat, the outfit no longer works. |
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| 21:24.31 | kergoth | "works"? |
| 21:24.50 | kenlyric | I switch to that outfit, nothing changes. |
| 21:25.06 | Arrowmaster | whats the var to set to change the chatwindow that aceconsole prints to for an addon? |
| 21:25.23 | lhunath | is there any chance somebody will have the sense of adding configurable anchors to eepanels at some point? :/ |
| 21:25.45 | lhunath | or at least a configurable parent |
| 21:26.35 | kenlyric | and, there's no way to edit sets so I can't even see if it's still coded with the right set items. |
| 21:26.48 | vhaarr | Yes there is. |
| 21:26.57 | Wobin | Can't you manually set the set to active? |
| 21:26.58 | vhaarr | Shift-Click a set in the Wear menu. |
| 21:27.01 | vhaarr | lern2read changelogs. |
| 21:27.33 | [dRaCo] | vhaar, since the last update I cant change the icon of my sets |
| 21:28.05 | kenlyric | yeah, because that's a feature that needs to be hidden way down with a shiftclick. |
| 21:28.12 | kenlyric | and yes, it disabled all the slots for that outfit. |
| 21:33.52 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: need your help with AceConsole and CustomPrint |
| 21:34.02 | ckknight | k? |
| 21:34.08 | Silviu- | 2.0.6 was launched in US ? |
| 21:34.17 | Dekuna | yes |
| 21:34.23 | Arrowmaster | how do you use the literal method with it |
| 21:34.39 | Arrowmaster | the API wiki is a bit messed up for it |
| 21:35.53 | kergoth | svn: File 'Buffalo/Nimbal/Buffalo/Buffalo_Container.lua' has binary mime type property |
| 21:35.56 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:36.06 | Gnarfoz_ | apache sucks |
| 21:36.06 | Gnarfoz_ | :\ |
| 21:36.37 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: put `true` as the separator |
| 21:36.39 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: nvm i figured it out |
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| 21:36.44 | ckknight | Silviu-: yes |
| 21:36.54 | Silviu- | Thank u :) |
| 21:36.57 | Arrowmaster | btw i hate you for using utf characters in the addon channel |
| 21:39.11 | kenlyric | lol, where did all my icons go? ;) |
| 21:39.57 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: œ∑´®t¥uiopåß∂ƒ©˙∆˚¬Ω≈ç√∫˜µ≤≥÷…æ¡™£¢∞§¶•ªº–≠|
| 21:40.00 | ckknight | mwahaha |
| 21:40.25 | Arrowmaster | im not even sure if i got that correctly... |
| 21:40.34 | ckknight | 5 ≠6 |
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| 21:40.42 | ckknight | should be 5 != 6 |
| 21:40.54 | ckknight | got that? |
| 21:40.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 21:41.07 | ckknight | you probably got the other parts, too, then |
| 21:41.18 | Arrowmaster | but there were some solid square blocks in the other thing you said |
| 21:42.09 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:42.12 | Arrowmaster | why the hell does wow support utf but the default font cant display extended ascii characters |
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| 21:42.32 | Dazmal | Hi |
| 21:42.38 | Saroz | Fucking GC is lagging me to death when it fires |
| 21:42.41 | Saroz | LUA 5.1 ftl |
| 21:42.54 | ckknight | Hola, señor, mi gusto gastar mi dinero en las chicas y la cervesa |
| 21:43.08 | Arrowmaster | for the longest time i was wondering why the hell you were using the prefix 2 with cart |
| 21:43.09 | ckknight | Saroz: it's likely people mismanaging their tables |
| 21:43.15 | Dazmal | Anyone here using Bulkmail ? tried it, but wow says a dependecie is missing :/ |
| 21:43.19 | kergoth | Saroz: uh, the incremental gc is lighter than the gc's in 5.0, itd be even worse pre 2.0 |
| 21:43.20 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: lol, it's hashed. |
| 21:43.22 | CIA-17 | 03derkyle * r25926 10Prat/modules/ (ChatLangButton.lua PlayerNames.lua): |
| 21:43.22 | CIA-17 | Prat: |
| 21:43.22 | CIA-17 | - Fixed Prat_PlayerNames:ScanForLinks() was parsing text for invites even when option was disabled. |
| 21:43.22 | CIA-17 | - Added Prat_ChatLangButtonMemory:OnModuleDisable() to ChatLangButton.lua (Mod defaulted to off, my mistake) |
| 21:43.25 | kergoth | meh, headache |
| 21:43.32 | realistik | ckknight: Will Cartographer_Import take CTmapmod data? |
| 21:43.46 | ckknight | realistik: not to my knowledge, I didn't code it in. Someone else may have. |
| 21:43.51 | realistik | k |
| 21:44.07 | kenlyric | can I assume that prat is enabling all my chat channels when I login? |
| 21:44.33 | Arrowmaster | my GC in lua 5.1 never fires since it never gets to 2x the starting memory size |
| 21:45.22 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: thats only the case if you have your max set to 0, no? |
| 21:45.33 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 21:46.01 | Arrowmaster | a lua 5.0 like GC fires when your current memory size reaches 2x the starting size |
| 21:46.06 | Amadeo | Is there a way to display your gold or bags (in order to swap them out) with Baggins? |
| 21:46.13 | Arrowmaster | which is what lags people |
| 21:46.36 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07PT3 * r25927 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua: Mendeleev: Use the cacheflag on ItemInSet() calls. (maybe I should make this the default setting in PT3 itself?) |
| 21:47.11 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: yes, and? |
| 21:47.14 | Arrowmaster | if your increasing memory rate is low because you dont have shitty addons then the incremental gc will keep it low so the 5.0 like GC never fires |
| 21:47.26 | Saroz | ckknight, it's prob sw stats etc etc etc, but really it was never a problem pre-2.0 |
| 21:47.26 | lhunath | oh, can that invite fuction in Prat be made somewhat smarter? As in, if the word after 'invite' starts with a letter and forms a valid nickname, and has a successful /who, make the invite invite that person; rather than the person asking? |
| 21:47.33 | Saroz | ckknight, the usage just rockets now |
| 21:47.43 | ckknight | quite possible |
| 21:47.46 | whizter | is there a way to automatically stack all stackable items in the inventory using an addon? |
| 21:48.18 | nymbia | whizter: MrPlow? |
| 21:48.23 | Saroz | what to do, gonna raise mem limi |
| 21:48.24 | Saroz | t |
| 21:48.24 | Arrowmaster | i found damagemeters was causing me about 100KiB/s before and after the patch in combat during any raids |
| 21:48.28 | Antiarc|Work | whitzer: MrPlow and Sanity both do that |
| 21:48.58 | whizter | ok thx. |
| 21:49.05 | nymbia | Saroz: whats your limit set at now? |
| 21:49.06 | kergoth | Arrowmaster: ah, i see. your statement was misleading. "my GC in lua 5.1 never fires since it.." is only correct if you're talking about when the new gc cycle begins (controlled by the gc 'pause' setting) |
| 21:49.21 | Saroz | nymbia, 60 I believe |
| 21:49.26 | Amadeo | 2.0 GC lags me also |
| 21:49.27 | Saroz | I load at 30 |
| 21:49.32 | Amadeo | big time, especially in PvP |
| 21:49.36 | Saroz | same |
| 21:49.40 | Amadeo | almost unplayable |
| 21:49.43 | Saroz | when it fires it lags for 2-3 seconds |
| 21:49.46 | Amadeo | yep |
| 21:49.48 | Saroz | freezes |
| 21:49.50 | Saroz | fucking stupid |
| 21:50.03 | Saroz | never had that problem before |
| 21:51.08 | ckknight | stop using shitty mods? |
| 21:51.09 | pastamancer | Saroz: disable swstats! |
| 21:51.13 | ckknight | don't know what else to say. |
| 21:51.24 | Saroz | make an ace2 dmg meter |
| 21:51.28 | Saroz | that sync etc |
| 21:51.32 | kergoth | and dont use a max ui ram of 0, its quite clear that blizzard's code sets the gc parameters based on it |
| 21:51.42 | kergoth | meh, headache |
| 21:51.48 | kergoth | excedrin tension headache ftw |
| 21:52.07 | Saroz | eh what |
| 21:52.20 | Amadeo | kergoth: You think it's better to be set low or high? |
| 21:52.30 | Saroz | mine is faily high |
| 21:52.49 | nymbia | i never have any problems with it set at 48 |
| 21:52.51 | kergoth | if you set it to unlimited, people have reported that the gc is extremely passive, not doing well at keeping up with allocation |
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| 21:53.23 | Amadeo | I had it low, I'll just try 48 a while |
| 21:54.34 | durcyn | i've not had issues with 0 |
| 21:54.59 | kergoth | i have. easily goes from 28 to 60 or higher after a while of play |
| 21:55.39 | durcyn | okay, and that breaks what exactly? i've 2gb of physical memory to throw at it. |
| 21:55.58 | kergoth | if you like leaking like a sieve, nothing |
| 21:56.05 | Amadeo | I've never really believed in that philosophy |
| 21:56.13 | kergoth | just pointing out that it will not be garbage collecting aggressively enough to keep up with allocations |
| 21:56.36 | Amadeo | I've always liked efficiency |
| 21:56.41 | durcyn | if the increasing rate was high i'd be more worried, but it usually isn't |
| 21:57.37 | Saroz | the problem is the effect of the GC event |
| 21:57.43 | Saroz | it freezes for 2-3 seconds |
| 21:57.58 | ZealotOnAStick | How are there like 50 addons on /files all makred 25921? |
| 21:58.12 | ckknight | Saroz: force a GC in a safe place? |
| 21:58.24 | Saroz | I have better things to remember than forcing a GC |
| 21:58.44 | phyber | due to sand gnomes, nowhere is safe :/ |
| 21:59.23 | WobWork | narf |
| 21:59.27 | durcyn | phyber: heh. as a gnome i found that quest demeaning and discriminatory, and i'm starting a lawsuit =P |
| 21:59.43 | Arrowmaster | i hated that quest because my luck sucks |
| 21:59.49 | Arrowmaster | nothing but sand gnomes |
| 22:00.09 | phyber | I just loved how the guy was going on about "you thought I ws crazy looking for evidense of sand gnomes". and then sand gnomes pop -_- |
| 22:00.23 | Barbanus | ckknight, that whole guild chat thing is making me mad .. there must be a better way to do it |
| 22:00.28 | WobWork | durcyn: Campaign for Equal Heights? |
| 22:00.46 | Barbanus | but I guess users cant check permissions for the guild |
| 22:00.48 | snurre- | hm, first 60 belf in my guild now.. |
| 22:00.50 | ckknight | Barbanus: jesus fucking christ will you let me actually code it instead of bitching about it so much? I said I was going to |
| 22:01.05 | Barbanus | ckknight, no no ... you misunderstand me :( |
| 22:01.24 | ckknight | oh? |
| 22:01.33 | Barbanus | I mean, its dumb that you have to send a message to test to see if it works |
| 22:01.40 | ckknight | oh |
| 22:01.45 | ckknight | yes, yes it is. |
| 22:01.49 | Barbanus | IMO, blizz should of added a way to test to see if you can send the message |
| 22:01.56 | ckknight | I agree |
| 22:02.23 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r25928 10/branches/ (1108 files in 363 dirs): .Line ending fixups part 2: branches/ (script ended prematurely). |
| 22:02.59 | Barbanus | holy shit, lol |
| 22:03.04 | Barbanus | 1108 files in 363 dirs |
| 22:03.08 | _neuron_ | your still doing that huh kergoth |
| 22:03.33 | _neuron_ | and wowace.com/files still loads quickly. /me finds that impressive |
| 22:03.52 | Barbanus | seems like the new server is handling things much better :) |
| 22:03.53 | Silviu- | ckknight did u read that pm i send u ?, when i hover over an note in instancemap i get that error :) |
| 22:03.56 | _neuron_ | yeah |
| 22:04.04 | ckknight | Silviu-: nope, are you registered? |
| 22:04.20 | Silviu- | Yes |
| 22:04.24 | Silviu- | I think |
| 22:04.25 | Silviu- | ^^ |
| 22:04.40 | ckknight | oh |
| 22:04.45 | ckknight | whoops |
| 22:04.47 | ckknight | that error |
| 22:04.49 | ckknight | already fixed |
| 22:04.51 | ckknight | you missed the commit |
| 22:04.51 | _neuron_ | anyone here a freenode oper btw? |
| 22:04.52 | Silviu- | Oky |
| 22:04.55 | Silviu- | Sorry :P |
| 22:04.59 | Antiarc|Work | Is there a parameter I can pass to dewdrop:Register() to cause it to only open the menu on ctrl-rightclick, or am I going to have to write my own onclick handler that looks for IsControlKeyDown()? |
| 22:05.33 | Barbanus | haha |
| 22:06.26 | kergoth | _neuron_: just join #freenode and whisper an op that isnt away |
| 22:06.29 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: write your own, set dontHook = true |
| 22:06.39 | Antiarc|Work | Alrighty, thanks. |
| 22:06.41 | _neuron_ | kergoth, I guess I should just do that :P |
| 22:06.50 | kergoth | its not hard, i've done it before :P |
| 22:07.26 | _neuron_ | cant msg without registering the nick though :P |
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| 22:07.56 | paranoidi | ckknight: hmm, cartographers GetDistanceToPoint doesn't seem to be accurate .. |
| 22:08.06 | ckknight | oh? |
| 22:08.42 | ckknight | how so? |
| 22:08.52 | paranoidi | well it gave me 40yards in distance to cordinate almost next to me .. |
| 22:09.00 | Mikma | heh, cartographer seems to show fishing required for the area |
| 22:09.24 | ckknight | paranoidi: the map is pretty big, it's quite possible. |
| 22:09.33 | kergoth | _neuron_: yea, you'll get voiced shortly after joining |
| 22:09.49 | paranoidi | ckknight: 0.1 being yards? hmm, I guess .. |
| 22:10.04 | paranoidi | 0.1 being 40yards I ment |
| 22:10.19 | Barbanus | Test it with a spell range |
| 22:10.24 | ckknight | paranoidi: what map? |
| 22:10.33 | paranoidi | hellfire |
| 22:10.33 | ckknight | paranoidi: it's quite possible. |
| 22:10.34 | Barbanus | get like 40 yards from someone, and heal them max range |
| 22:10.37 | ckknight | oh, yea |
| 22:10.40 | ckknight | Hellfire's huge |
| 22:15.58 | *** join/#wowace stavmar (n=chatzill@fwext1-ext.isgenesis.com) |
| 22:16.30 | ckknight | there is no problem, paranoidi |
| 22:17.02 | Arrowmaster | is cart saving the distance forumlas for each zone or was that added to another library? |
| 22:17.09 | ckknight | Tourist |
| 22:17.33 | ckknight | stores yards of each zone, and now stores the x/y offsets of each zone |
| 22:17.53 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@12-196-151-127.psknet.net) |
| 22:17.54 | Arrowmaster | ok, ill have to look into seeing if speedfu uses tourist and if not see if i can convert it |
| 22:17.59 | TheKarn | ckknight, your change to tourist for transpose method isnt in the latest zip |
| 22:18.00 | ckknight | it also provides a nice point-to-point distance method and a coordinate transposition method |
| 22:18.05 | TheKarn | you might get a few bug reports |
| 22:18.22 | ckknight | TheKarn: odd... |
| 22:18.39 | ckknight | you mean it's not calling Tourist? |
| 22:18.41 | ckknight | or what? |
| 22:18.42 | paranoidi | ckknight: you might be right, checkin' my code :) |
| 22:18.43 | TheKarn | it is |
| 22:18.52 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r25929 10XLootGroup/ (XLootGroup.lua localization.enUS.lua): XLootGroup: Added "Fade out rows" toggle. |
| 22:19.01 | TheKarn | but its not finding the Tourist:TransposeCoordinates() method (or whatever it is( |
| 22:19.28 | Silviu- | ckknight just did an checkout and still same error, one sec i pasteey it |
| 22:19.52 | ckknight | TheKarn: TransposeZoneCoordiante |
| 22:19.55 | ckknight | Coordinate* |
| 22:19.56 | TheKarn | yeah thats the one |
| 22:20.03 | TheKarn | its not in the tourist in the latest zip |
| 22:20.22 | TheKarn | i think its a files problem not yours |
| 22:20.24 | TheKarn | but just so you know |
| 22:20.27 | Silviu- | http://ace.pastey.net/5447 |
| 22:20.38 | ckknight | TheKarn: but on SVN? |
| 22:21.00 | TheKarn | the latest tourist does have it |
| 22:21.00 | ckknight | impossible, Silviu-, you're out of date. |
| 22:21.03 | Silviu- | I am inside "The UnderBorg" |
| 22:21.05 | TheKarn | but the tourist in the zip doesnt |
| 22:21.09 | Silviu- | And hover over :) |
| 22:21.16 | ckknight | someone update files. |
| 22:21.23 | ckknight | Silviu-: get up to date. |
| 22:21.30 | Silviu- | It is up to date |
| 22:21.44 | Silviu- | 25928 is my latest rev i had :) |
| 22:22.41 | TheKarn | ckknight its been updated |
| 22:22.42 | ckknight | well I don't believe you. |
| 22:22.44 | TheKarn | ignore me :P |
| 22:22.47 | ckknight | alright |
| 22:22.57 | Silviu- | D:\Jocuri\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns>svn up --ignore-externals Cartograp |
| 22:22.57 | Silviu- | her |
| 22:22.57 | Silviu- | At revision 25929. |
| 22:22.57 | Silviu- | D:\Jocuri\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns> |
| 22:22.58 | Silviu- | :) |
| 22:23.44 | ckknight | hrm, it's possible the change didn't go through... |
| 22:24.24 | ckknight | yep, kergoth's big change had prevented me from committing |
| 22:25.09 | Silviu- | :P |
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| 22:26.01 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25930 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: |
| 22:26.01 | CIA-17 | Cartographer-Notes - force POI framelevel to 5 |
| 22:26.01 | CIA-17 | - should fix distance in instances and such. |
| 22:26.10 | ckknight | brb |
| 22:26.49 | paranoidi | ckknight: yea, it works fine and it's much more accurate than my previous quick attempt to determine if player has arrived in destination :) |
| 22:27.37 | paranoidi | when I simply tested if x,y difference is less than 0.3 (doesn't scale to map) |
| 22:28.01 | Cyrez | Caster only meaning you use mana? |
| 22:28.13 | Cyrez | Ack, that was a while ago. >< |
| 22:28.24 | Cyrez | Damned scrollbar. |
| 22:31.42 | Cyrez | Yeah, I'm having SVN problems, too. There's a lot of changes that bot reported as far back as this morning that I didn't get when I tried updating. |
| 22:32.47 | Cyrez | There were a few changes to Cart when I tried earlier but it only updated one or two externals instead... |
| 22:33.02 | kergoth | ckknight: yea i had to modify the pre commit, i blocked anyone but myself from committing for the duration of the change :P |
| 22:33.16 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.55 | _neuron_ | you can get the totemic thingy way way before that though NeoTron, and it's comparable |
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| 22:34.55 | TheKarn | [Totemic Staff] is imba |
| 22:35.06 | ckknight | kergoth: ah. |
| 22:35.22 | Mikma | you know what would rock |
| 22:35.24 | ckknight | paranoidi: yea, totally use yards. |
| 22:35.26 | Mikma | a TotemPopBar |
| 22:35.40 | kergoth | Mikma: you mean like Yata? |
| 22:35.42 | Mikma | press a keybind and it will show you all totems you have |
| 22:35.48 | kergoth | oh, hidden |
| 22:35.50 | paranoidi | chuckg: yep, I do now if cartographer available :) |
| 22:35.56 | Mikma | kergoth: yes but yata is bugged atm and won't work with levels under 30 :( |
| 22:35.58 | paranoidi | ... damn autofill |
| 22:36.05 | kergoth | Mikma: fix it :) |
| 22:36.11 | Mikma | kergoth: and, yata doesn't have spellbook scanning for spells |
| 22:36.19 | chuckg | paranoidi, just wanted to counter ding you out of something. |
| 22:36.22 | chuckg | :) |
| 22:36.34 | paranoidi | you know what this means, right? war! :D |
| 22:36.35 | Mikma | i'm currently using "chaman" totemaddon and it's not updating after learning new totems :P |
| 22:36.38 | kergoth | it doesnt? it listed my totem of wrath.. or does it always list it? |
| 22:36.49 | paranoidi | chuckg: I will ding you when you least expect it! ;) |
| 22:36.59 | chuckg | SHIT |
| 22:37.05 | chuckg | Going to get me killed by evil BE's. |
| 22:37.06 | chuckg | :| |
| 22:37.08 | [dRaCo] | closetgnome always uses the helmet's icon for the set, no matter which slot I set to be the icon... am I the only one with that problem? |
| 22:37.13 | kergoth | Industrial: <3 Stylish |
| 22:37.29 | KarlThePagan | hshh |
| 22:37.33 | KarlThePagan | ~seen hshh |
| 22:38.05 | purl | i haven't seen 'hshh', KarlThePagan |
| 22:38.06 | Silviu- | ckknight thank u works now :) |
| 22:39.13 | NeoTron | _neuron_: no I can't, that's horde |
| 22:39.19 | _neuron_ | ahh |
| 22:39.24 | _neuron_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.36 | NeoTron | didn't see any alliance reward nearly as good |
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| 22:39.43 | Gnarfoz | wohooo |
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| 22:39.58 | ckknight | anyone a guild leader who want to help me with a connundrum? I need to get a quick ginvite without the ability to talk in the guild channel. |
| 22:40.00 | Gnarfoz | php4 as cgi, php5 as module - finally |
| 22:40.01 | NeoTron | but I have a 1h dagger (blue) from underbog with 60ish spell damage and some spell crit now |
| 22:40.11 | NeoTron | with a 47 STA offhand |
| 22:40.12 | ckknight | (US) |
| 22:40.20 | Leaf_Archimonde | Hello. Another noob question: Does anyone knows how to detect if Ctrl, Shift or Alt is pressed? Any event ? |
| 22:40.25 | Mikma | ckknight: i was just gonna say that "sure log into EU" |
| 22:40.26 | _neuron_ | 47 sta offhand, heh, quite a bit better than any stat on any offhand pre bc :P |
| 22:40.30 | ckknight | Leaf_Archimonde: MODIFIER_CHANGED |
| 22:40.35 | Mikma | but damn, you were faster to fix yourself |
| 22:40.38 | Leaf_Archimonde | Thank you |
| 22:40.41 | kenlyric | lol. |
| 22:40.41 | break19 | ckknight: I can help, on the tanaris server |
| 22:40.46 | ckknight | break19: alright |
| 22:40.52 | kenlyric | I was all happy because Ace updated itself. :) |
| 22:41.15 | Leaf_Archimonde | ckknight, you was interesting in stance change event. I have found UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS, but works only for druid, no warriors or rogues |
| 22:41.23 | NeoTron | _neuron_: nice for a lock |
| 22:41.27 | Cyrez | Tanaris? Who is on Tanaris? |
| 22:41.36 | break19 | ckknight: alliance side.. lemme log on the GM and change our initiate level to no talking |
| 22:41.38 | NeoTron | unbuffed I'm approaching 7000 HP in dps gear and I already surpass it in stamina gear |
| 22:41.39 | break19 | <- is |
| 22:41.52 | Cyrez | What guild are you in? |
| 22:41.53 | *** join/#wowace leech (n=leech@deathgrab.com) |
| 22:42.03 | leech | is cooldown count gone from bartender3? |
| 22:42.04 | break19 | GM of Resonance on alliance side |
| 22:42.04 | realistik | real generic question: Is there something Blizzard has done to prevent you from writing a mod that would require you to (for example) ctrl+alt+rightclick to loot a mob? |
| 22:42.17 | Cyrez | Oooo. |
| 22:42.26 | kenlyric | so, just so I know, every mod should be updating because of kergoth's checkin? |
| 22:42.26 | realistik | leech: yes |
| 22:42.32 | leech | hmm |
| 22:42.34 | _neuron_ | yes kenlyric |
| 22:42.35 | Cyrez | My roomate's an Officer in Legends of Tanaris. |
| 22:42.36 | leech | another mod? |
| 22:42.42 | NeoTron | what evil did kergoth perform to do taht? :P |
| 22:42.42 | leech | to add it back |
| 22:42.47 | realistik | leech: OmniCC will put the counters back on for you |
| 22:42.48 | ckknight | break19: name's ckknight |
| 22:42.54 | break19 | kk |
| 22:42.57 | leech | realistik: sweet thx |
| 22:43.07 | realistik | sure |
| 22:43.08 | robotusch | hmm nice, first to 60 on my new realm did it in 4 days & 21 hours o_O |
| 22:43.30 | Ominous | :O |
| 22:43.42 | Antiarc|Work | robotusch: Not too surprising. I have a couple of guildmates with Draenei in their early 50s |
| 22:43.50 | Antiarc|Work | I think one hit 40 at 2d3h played |
| 22:43.52 | kenlyric | robotusch: /played, or in real hours, or is that all the same? |
| 22:43.59 | robotusch | /played |
| 22:44.08 | durcyn | it's doable, i made 70 on sunday, and there was that french guy who did it in 28 real hours. |
| 22:44.25 | robotusch | this guy did it solo & on a new realm (ie. no twinking) |
| 22:44.30 | Antiarc|Work | I'm just taking my time and going easy with it. |
| 22:44.31 | durcyn | oh, damn. |
| 22:44.36 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r25931 10/trunk/ (1351 files in 400 dirs): .Line ending fixups part 2: trunk/ (script ended prematurely). |
| 22:44.44 | Mikma | wth? |
| 22:44.47 | Antiarc|Work | The first 70 on our server is a guildie of mine, and she's now going back and doing all the low instances and quests and stuff she missed. |
| 22:44.48 | durcyn | Antiarc|Work: my best advice to you is to get honored with the heroic key factions |
| 22:44.48 | kenlyric | robotusch: was it joanna? :) |
| 22:44.55 | Antiarc|Work | durcyn: You mean revered? ;) |
| 22:45.09 | durcyn | Antiarc|Work: honored on the pre-70 instances, can get kill rep to revered in the 70 zones |
| 22:45.14 | kenlyric | Antiarc|Work: that'll be worth a lot of gold. |
| 22:45.18 | robotusch | nope, was a bit surprised as well, he hit hellfire pen at 58, so I doubt he was following that guide |
| 22:45.37 | Leaf_Archimonde | ckknight: I have checked MODIFIER_CHANGED, unfortunately don't work ;(. Any clues? |
| 22:45.43 | Antiarc|Work | I'm already well into Honored with HH and Cenarion Expedition. Not quite friendly with the Auch factions though |
| 22:45.46 | kenlyric | robo, I imagine joanna's guide has ben changed to move you to hellfire asap. |
| 22:45.49 | Mikma | kergoth jammed SVN |
| 22:46.02 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r25932 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Fix setting the icon. |
| 22:46.03 | ckknight | Leaf_Archimonde: look on wowwiki |
| 22:46.10 | robotusch | might have, haven't been using that for ages' |
| 22:46.20 | durcyn | cenarion looks like it's going to be the most difficult, you can pvp for hellfire rep, and do turnins for most of the rest |
| 22:46.33 | Leaf_Archimonde | ckknight: was first thing what i have checked ;). Then google. Then ingame. No luck ;(( |
| 22:46.33 | _neuron_ | ckknight, cartographer r25930 and my icons are floating around |
| 22:46.46 | [dRaCo] | he, great. |
| 22:46.53 | [dRaCo] | exactly the fix I was waiting for :) |
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| 22:47.03 | CIA-17 | 03galeni * r25933 10HotMan/HotMan.lua: HotMan: Now uses UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT and UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED to capture spell casts -- much more powerful than the previous approach |
| 22:47.04 | kenlyric | I used the alliance one to level up this priest... worked pretty well. Never once killed a mob or did an instance that wasn't for a quest. |
| 22:47.07 | kenlyric | made it a lot more fun. |
| 22:47.28 | robotusch | kenlyric, the one by Brian Kropp (or whatever his name is) or one of the free guides? |
| 22:47.33 | ckknight | _neuron_: steps to reproduce |
| 22:47.50 | NeoTron | If I'm insane to level another character I'll definitely use and follow a 'level fast now' guide |
| 22:47.54 | kenlyric | robotusch: I think I don't know.. is that one not free? :) |
| 22:47.56 | _neuron_ | ckknight, hm, can't, just tried, I logged from one char to another and I think one of the icons may have stuck or something |
| 22:48.19 | ckknight | if I can't reproduce, I can't help you. |
| 22:48.19 | *** join/#wowace ck|ganni2 (n=ck|ganni@p54A35BC9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:48.22 | robotusch | the one by Brian isn't |
| 22:48.25 | kenlyric | NeoTron: and truthfully, it's faster than endless grinding anyway. |
| 22:48.25 | _neuron_ | yeah I know |
| 22:48.29 | kenlyric | robotusch: oops... |
| 22:48.33 | Industrial | kergoth: Haven't tried Stylish yet |
| 22:48.38 | _neuron_ | it may have auto adjusted itself, it defenatly moved |
| 22:48.59 | kenlyric | his guide is really good, way better than joanna's (mob and quest locations FTW!) |
| 22:49.04 | Industrial | kergoth: I'm configuring openbox right now although I kind of dislike that they used xml.. its so much typing :P |
| 22:49.05 | vhaarr | [dRaCo]: Fixed now, thanks for the report. |
| 22:49.16 | Mikma | Industrial: what'cha doin'? |
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| 22:49.23 | [dRaCo] | no problem, thanks for the fast fix :) |
| 22:49.27 | Leaf_Archimonde | ckknight: terrible sorry, just found in 2.0 changes wiith associated search - MODIFIER_STATE_CHANGED. Millions of thanks to you again ;)) |
| 22:49.28 | Industrial | Mikma: I just said what im doing |
| 22:49.28 | robotusch | yeah looks like it, judging by that preview he has on his site |
| 22:49.29 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:49.42 | Mikma | Industrial: yes but is it part of something much neater |
| 22:49.46 | robotusch | but I think I might ditch my current belf & go level either my pally or priest |
| 22:49.58 | Industrial | Mikma: the grand scheme of... my Desktop !! |
| 22:50.00 | Industrial | dun dun DUN |
| 22:50.06 | Mikma | OLEEE! |
| 22:50.30 | CIA-17 | 03galeni * r25934 10HotMan/HotMan.lua: HotMan: Line ending fixes |
| 22:51.20 | Industrial | I think im going back to wmii though :| it just works (anf fine, too) |
| 22:53.10 | Thorgard | Hmm. |
| 22:53.22 | Thorgard | Cartographer's 'send note to player' doesn't seem to be working. |
| 22:55.08 | CIA-17 | 03cinedelle * r25935 10Automaton/modules/Gossip/Locale-frFR.lua: |
| 22:55.08 | CIA-17 | Automaton: |
| 22:55.08 | CIA-17 | - frFR updated until the next major update including BC |
| 22:55.20 | Antiarc|Work | wtb [Going home to test SanityBags], PST. |
| 22:55.34 | Mikma | Thorgard: kicks you out of server? |
| 22:55.56 | Thorgard | Mikma, nein, just doesn't seem to be sending the note. |
| 22:56.20 | [dRaCo] | aight, here's another issue with closetgnome: if I click a set with shift pressed, nothing happens. |
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| 23:00.07 | Ominous | anyone else having problems with teh toc --> wiki infobox script? as it isnt updating for me |
| 23:00.41 | Kaelten-Laptop | did I get pinged a while back? |
| 23:00.52 | Ominous | also what happened to the cooldown count on bartender 3? |
| 23:01.03 | kergoth | Ominous: removed. use cooldowncount or omnicc |
| 23:01.04 | [dRaCo] | got removed due to perfomance issues |
| 23:01.15 | Ominous | ok |
| 23:01.22 | Ominous | which is better out of CC or omnCC |
| 23:01.44 | nee|lap | There's no CC? |
| 23:02.03 | [dRaCo] | I'm using cdc |
| 23:02.12 | kergoth | Industrial: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1330/ is kinda nice |
| 23:02.17 | [dRaCo] | but that's just because it's on the svn |
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| 23:02.34 | kergoth | i use omnicc just cause i've always used it, long before cooldowncount existed |
| 23:03.45 | Industrial | kergoth: hmm, nice. |
| 23:04.04 | Ominous | hmm well if no one else if having trouble with their toc stuff not being updated it could be a problem with my toc file? |
| 23:04.35 | *** join/#wowace Thrae (n=generalm@c-68-49-121-236.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 23:06.44 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r25936 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/FuBar_RogueTimerFu.toc: FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - toc test |
| 23:07.51 | kergoth | Industrial: then you can try http://userstyles.org/style/show/1123 with stylish |
| 23:07.56 | kergoth | http://userstyles.org/style_screenshots/1123_after.png |
| 23:08.53 | *** part/#wowace [BiS]Pkekyo|aw (n=bsm89mod@084202138117.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 23:10.30 | Industrial | kergoth: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1455/ |
| 23:10.33 | Industrial | kergoth: :X |
| 23:10.57 | Kaelten-Laptop | did they do a patch today? |
| 23:11.05 | kergoth | Industrial: cute |
| 23:11.09 | break19 | Kaelten-Laptop: yep |
| 23:11.17 | break19 | small 4M patch |
| 23:11.18 | Kaelten-Laptop | ah that explains it |
| 23:11.19 | break19 | afk a bit |
| 23:11.23 | RUBiK | toc bump? |
| 23:11.56 | kergoth | Industrial: i use http://userstyles.org/style/show/993 though |
| 23:12.11 | kergoth | Industrial: coupled with the iconic menubar so theres no text, only icons |
| 23:13.24 | Industrial | hm :) |
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| 23:15.18 | Industrial | :) |
| 23:15.30 | Industrial | I dont like that they wanna make it bigger in the next version though |
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| 23:17.59 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25937 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: |
| 23:17.59 | CIA-17 | .AceComm-2.0 - no longer spams the channel after sending a guild addon message, in the event that you do not have permission to send such a message. |
| 23:17.59 | CIA-17 | - also cleaned up hooks |
| 23:18.04 | ckknight | alright |
| 23:20.19 | ckknight | I still think it's lame that you can't send addon messages if you're muted :-P |
| 23:20.23 | ckknight | oh well |
| 23:20.50 | Cyrez | Gah, SVN updates still aren't taking. >< |
| 23:22.30 | kergoth | Industrial: http://userstyles.org/style/show/1515 |
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| 23:24.10 | Hjalte | My WAU just updated *all* my addons oO |
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| 23:24.37 | RUBiK | something weird going on in svn.. with the line trimming thing or whatever trac was showing |
| 23:24.39 | kergoth | Hjalte: aye, sorry about that. it was necessary. |
| 23:24.42 | Industrial | Hjalte: omg really? so it didnt make you toast like its supposed to? |
| 23:24.44 | break19 | ckknight: how did ya wind up doing the detection? |
| 23:25.06 | phyber | if I do 'local text = self.db.profile.something' is text a pointer to the .something or a copy of it? |
| 23:25.15 | Hjalte | kergoth: It's no problem, it went fast and all, but I was just wondering if that was supposed to happen :) |
| 23:25.23 | Industrial | phyber: pointer' |
| 23:25.29 | phyber | I'm going to do some string.gsubs on it, but don't want to change the .something. |
| 23:25.33 | Thrae | phyber: Reference. |
| 23:25.50 | phyber | bah, so I need a function() return self.db.wibble.blah end, to get a copy? |
| 23:25.51 | ckknight | break19: keeps a timer since you last sent a guild addon message, if the errors falls within that timeframe, squelch it |
| 23:25.55 | pastamancer | hahaha, there's a unicode character for a snowman |
| 23:25.56 | kergoth | each stirng.gsub returns a new string, phyber. |
| 23:26.06 | ckknight | this is broken if you send a manual guild message, at which time it'll pass through and yell at you |
| 23:26.07 | pastamancer | ☃ |
| 23:26.10 | kergoth | local text = string.gusb(foo, bar, baz) |
| 23:26.22 | ckknight | local text = foo:gsub(bar, baz) |
| 23:26.24 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:26.27 | kergoth | indeed :) |
| 23:26.35 | break19 | heh |
| 23:26.50 | phyber | kergoth: well, I'll be doing 'local text = self.db.something; text = string.gsub(stuff)' |
| 23:26.56 | phyber | will that not replace the stuff in self.db? |
| 23:27.10 | kergoth | it will not. |
| 23:27.16 | phyber | cool. |
| 23:27.19 | kergoth | text = foo |
| 23:27.21 | kergoth | puts that in text. |
| 23:27.22 | Thrae | phyber: gsub creates a new string, so in this case, a + b = c, where c != b or a |
| 23:27.27 | Industrial | a='foo' b=a a='bar' print(b) <-- 'foo' |
| 23:27.32 | Hjalte | I just picked up the beta 2 release of WAU 1.7 - I'm getting an unhandled exception has occured whenever i start the program. Something about Illegal characters in path. I can paste the whole error to pastey if anyone would like to see it. |
| 23:27.36 | kergoth | Industrial: well put |
| 23:27.43 | kergoth | Industrial: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2547/ |
| 23:28.12 | Industrial | kergoth: I love his "disable XPI install delay" :P |
| 23:28.19 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:28.21 | kergoth | indeed |
| 23:28.39 | kergoth | local install is nice, gives that plus the ability to install local xpis easily, and adds a 'restart firefox' menu option in the addons page |
| 23:28.46 | kergoth | i love that restart firefox thing |
| 23:29.34 | ckknight | so what else is there to do? |
| 23:29.35 | Amadeo | Is there any way to display your gold or actual bags in Baggins? |
| 23:29.38 | kergoth | sorry about having the line endings fixups in two phases.. the script unintentionally aborted when it encountered .lua or .xml files flagged as binary |
| 23:29.44 | kergoth | there were a suprising number of those |
| 23:29.53 | vhaarr | heh |
| 23:29.56 | vhaarr | did you fix them? |
| 23:29.58 | kergoth | yep |
| 23:30.01 | vhaarr | cool |
| 23:30.05 | Hjalte | Amadeo: I don't think there is yet |
| 23:30.33 | Amadeo | Hjalte: Damn, thanks though :) |
| 23:31.21 | Amadeo | kergoth is the SVN IRS |
| 23:31.25 | kergoth | indeed |
| 23:31.40 | kergoth | booo, cutemenus svg doesnt handle the del.icio.us booksmarks extension's bookmarks menu |
| 23:31.45 | kergoth | only handles the normal bookmarks menu |
| 23:31.56 | kergoth | so i have an iconic menubar with one big ass text "bookmarks" |
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| 23:34.14 | ckknight | gonna hit up taco bell... |
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| 23:34.31 | kergoth | Industrial: http://covenant.kergoth.com/images/firefox-1.JPG so far |
| 23:35.39 | Mikma | kergoth: ooh, mini firepox |
| 23:35.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:36.05 | kergoth | menubar and statusbar both autohiding until mouseover |
| 23:36.11 | kergoth | well, menubar slides out |
| 23:36.43 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r25938 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/FuBar_RogueTimerFu.toc: FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - toc revert |
| 23:36.58 | Mikma | kergoth: ok, how? |
| 23:37.21 | kergoth | hmm, need to get the auto hiding statusbar to automatically appear when mousing over a link |
| 23:37.25 | kergoth | shouldnt be too hard |
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| 23:37.44 | kergoth | Mikma: http://userstyles.org/ |
| 23:38.05 | kergoth | stylish is for css what greasemonkey is to js |
| 23:38.58 | RUBiK | you guys got me hooked on styles now |
| 23:39.07 | RUBiK | s/styles/stylish/ |
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| 23:41.11 | vid` | hmm |
| 23:41.14 | vid` | stylish seems interesting |
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| 23:41.47 | kergoth | RUBiK: welcome to the club |
| 23:42.29 | RUBiK | worth it for the google noads and compact mode thingy alone |
| 23:42.46 | RUBiK | http://userstyles.org/style/show/1082 |
| 23:42.57 | RUBiK | makes anything-google look like 10 brazillion cleaner |
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| 23:43.31 | fem | Hi there |
| 23:43.51 | fem | Could anyone help me out with a technical question involving the unitframes addon? |
| 23:44.35 | fem | Another mod is interfering with the display of party pets/minions, and I heard someone got around this by creating a "new stack" of frames |
| 23:44.37 | kergoth | RUBiK: hmm looks nice, doesnt cooperate with the dark blue google stylish script i'm using, might have to combine them :) |
| 23:44.52 | fem | But I didn't get a chance to ask them what they meant |
| 23:45.09 | RUBiK | heh.. yeah.. i was using that gmail skins extension and some kind of blueish skin but disabled it now |
| 23:46.01 | kergoth | i'm probably running 35-40 stylish scripts now :P |
| 23:46.15 | fem | anyone? {:| |
| 23:47.44 | fem | A simple 'no' will suffice, heh. |
| 23:48.18 | kergoth | fem: you want an answer of no from all, what, 200 people in here? |
| 23:48.19 | kergoth | come on. |
| 23:48.24 | kergoth | either people dont know the answer, or they're afk. |
| 23:48.39 | xmas | are you developing a mod? or do you have issues? |
| 23:48.52 | fem | I'm having display issues |
| 23:49.02 | xmas | what mod? |
| 23:49.03 | fem | but unwilling to disable the interfering mods |
| 23:49.05 | Ordog | wowheada down again? |
| 23:49.08 | shieldb | yeah |
| 23:49.12 | fem | Ad unitframes |
| 23:49.14 | shieldb | there's a notice if you hit up wowhead now |
| 23:49.18 | ckknight | hehy all, back |
| 23:49.18 | kergoth | RUBiK, Industrial: http://userstyles.org/style/show/492 is kinda neat.. it makes visited links opaque, and solid on mouseover.. it even works on image links, making the picture opaque if you've been there |
| 23:49.19 | xmas | get the new version |
| 23:49.23 | fem | did |
| 23:49.34 | fem | Have the latest of all versions available for all mods involved |
| 23:49.34 | xmas | should work, I had the same issue before as well |
| 23:49.52 | fem | Just wondering if there's a way to get around it, if not solve it |
| 23:49.52 | RUBiK | kergoth: awesome.. checking out |
| 23:49.58 | Industrial | kergoth: nice. Im tying that menu thingy |
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| 23:51.38 | kergoth | Industrial: looks like cutemenus has built in support for iconifying the menubar, so dont bother with that extension |
| 23:52.07 | Mikma | kergoth: finally Yata works. just required lvl30 |
| 23:52.13 | kergoth | hehe, grats |
| 23:52.28 | Industrial | doh |
| 23:52.29 | Mikma | and oh, it's so sweet :D |
| 23:52.30 | Koaschten | hmm curator suxx :/ |
| 23:52.31 | fem | basically pets and minions don't display in the party due to some mod interference |
| 23:52.44 | fem | but there's a way to get around it by stacking them elsewhere |
| 23:52.46 | fem | just not sure how |
| 23:53.33 | shieldb | if you're just trying to view your own pet and you don't take advantage of it for other stuff, you could always set your pet as your focus target as a workaround |
| 23:54.17 | fem | It's the party pets |
| 23:54.19 | fem | not my own |
| 23:54.22 | fem | I'm a healer, can't see them |
| 23:54.47 | shieldb | that does make it kinda tough :| |
| 23:54.48 | KarlThePagan | works for me |
| 23:55.11 | Industrial | Mikma: Yata = ? |
| 23:55.12 | Kaelten-Laptop | http://files.wowace.net/wow-patches/ |
| 23:55.16 | KarlThePagan | also when pets didn't work... I used /focus |
| 23:55.20 | Kaelten-Laptop | if anyone is having a hard time getting the latest patch |
| 23:55.23 | KarlThePagan | agUF has great focus support |
| 23:55.43 | Industrial | kergoth: theres .net and .com :D? |
| 23:55.50 | Industrial | Kaelten-Laptop: * |
| 23:56.18 | Kaelten-Laptop | ? |
| 23:56.25 | Mikma | Industrial: Yet another totem addon |
| 23:56.35 | RUBiK | kergoth: if i'm using that sliding menubar style, how do i make the bar with back/fwd/addresss bar "move up" on the same row? |
| 23:56.43 | Industrial | Kaelten-Laptop: I always use wowace.com .. |
| 23:56.54 | Industrial | Mikma: ic |
| 23:56.55 | Kaelten-Laptop | kaelten they're identical |
| 23:57.05 | Kaelten-Laptop | http://files.wowace.com/wow-patches/ |
| 23:57.07 | Kaelten-Laptop | :P |
| 23:57.52 | NeoTron | Shaman 60-70, what is most effective? Enhancement or Elemental or whatever you prefer? |
| 23:58.28 | Industrial | dual wield! >:) |
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| 23:58.44 | kergoth | RUBiK: that doesnt need an extension, just right click on the toolbar, hit customize toolbar, and start dragging them around :) |
| 23:59.08 | NeoTron | It's not a primary character but I feel like playing him. I like elemental but figure enhancement is more effective |
| 23:59.16 | kergoth | RUBiK: you should also, imo, grab the script that combines stop/reload, and the one that converts stop into a throbber while its loading, then you can hide the throbber and still have it |
| 23:59.21 | NeoTron | but I haven't tried any builds at all since the new trees were released |
| 23:59.55 | RUBiK | kergoth: neat.. thx! |
