| 00:00.01 | art3mis | OR as someone suggested you didnt respond to the querty ingame so it kicked you |
| 00:00.05 | art3mis | query |
| 00:00.27 | Teshnor | yeah :/ |
| 00:00.30 | Kemayo | Silviu-: Thanks for letting me know, I just committed a fix. |
| 00:00.32 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r26749 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Forgot "then" on line 473. |
| 00:00.46 | art3mis | another solution maybe try a different server |
| 00:00.48 | Silviu- | Kemayo no problem |
| 00:00.53 | art3mis | see if it does it on ALL servers |
| 00:00.57 | american | anyone know why a button i create runtime is not clickable (code i use: CreateFrame("Button", ""btn, frame, "SecureActionButtonTemplate") ? i cant think up any reason why it sint clicakble |
| 00:00.59 | art3mis | if it does ist an issue you can try and fix |
| 00:01.03 | Teshnor | so far it has |
| 00:01.09 | art3mis | if it doesnt its that server in aprticular with a setting to boot |
| 00:01.24 | *** join/#wowace Ominous_ (i=HydraIRC@88-111-32-195.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 00:01.24 | art3mis | oh wait yer in vista? |
| 00:01.29 | Teshnor | yah |
| 00:01.37 | art3mis | did you already give it permission to reply? |
| 00:01.50 | Teshnor | of course... I've turned off the damn UAC |
| 00:01.51 | art3mis | in the beta for vista it used to pop up a notifcation window |
| 00:02.00 | Teshnor | I run the most insecure vista on this planet :) |
| 00:02.09 | art3mis | and if thats turned off for any system layer it wants you to verify that its happened |
| 00:02.48 | Teshnor | well, if so they must have made an update to it or so... because pb worked flawless 2 days ago |
| 00:02.52 | art3mis | i noticed that with the uac disabled i still needed to click "go away" for avg updates |
| 00:03.05 | xlvii | i need to shell out like, $2000+ for my vista |
| 00:03.05 | xlvii | i have 4 computers, so. |
| 00:03.12 | art3mis | get a corp licence ;P |
| 00:03.14 | Teshnor | art3mis: Then you haven't fully disabled it ;) |
| 00:03.19 | Teshnor | I've disabled all the services etc. |
| 00:03.29 | art3mis | 5user corp is cheaper than 5 individual ones |
| 00:03.42 | Silviu- | Kemayo did u read all that pastebin ? |
| 00:03.44 | kergoth | [Ammo]: planning on adding embeds to necronomicon2? as it stands today ace2/babblespell/deformat probably should be requireddeps, not optionaldeps :P |
| 00:03.51 | art3mis | heh it was also beta |
| 00:03.53 | Silviu- | Kemayo was an error in questfu also more down |
| 00:03.56 | art3mis | there was LOTS wrong with it ;P |
| 00:04.29 | art3mis | hrm well all i can suggest is try rolling back to before yer update |
| 00:04.33 | art3mis | when it worked |
| 00:04.44 | art3mis | and then do the updates 1 at a time to find the broken one |
| 00:04.45 | Silviu- | Kemayo http://ace.pastey.net/5770 |
| 00:04.46 | Teshnor | I'll just try to run as admin just to make sure, before I reroll :) |
| 00:04.52 | art3mis | yeah ;P |
| 00:04.54 | art3mis | that too |
| 00:04.59 | Teshnor | not sure I can reroll though |
| 00:04.59 | art3mis | i assumed you were admin heh |
| 00:05.04 | Teshnor | might have disabled that service as well haha |
| 00:05.18 | Teshnor | restore points that is |
| 00:05.36 | Teshnor | I never used it in xp... for over 2 years :) |
| 00:05.57 | Teshnor | I made a custom xp installation and reinstalled every now and then |
| 00:05.58 | art3mis | it makes auto restores |
| 00:05.59 | Teshnor | instead ;) |
| 00:06.05 | art3mis | any time you do a winders update |
| 00:06.12 | Teshnor | not if the service is disabled it doesn't :P |
| 00:06.24 | art3mis | hehe i do that with my box, do a clean load install all the crap i normally install then ghost it ;P |
| 00:06.26 | deltron | windizupdate ftw |
| 00:06.31 | Ominous_ | any way to stop the frigging alert box when you open WAU in vista |
| 00:06.40 | art3mis | use WUU ;P |
| 00:06.46 | Ominous_ | WUU? |
| 00:06.53 | art3mis | ui updater |
| 00:06.57 | Teshnor | deltron: not for vista it doesn't :P |
| 00:07.00 | art3mis | does the same thing as wau only for ALL addons |
| 00:07.11 | Ominous_ | i trieed that... didnt seem to work |
| 00:07.16 | art3mis | it does |
| 00:07.22 | Teshnor | art3mis: Where is WUU? :) |
| 00:07.22 | Ominous_ | link? |
| 00:07.28 | art3mis | you just need to go to each apge for yer isntalled addons and tell it what the id is |
| 00:07.41 | art3mis | like file=id2341234 |
| 00:07.47 | art3mis | so it can grab the right one |
| 00:07.49 | Ominous_ | eurr |
| 00:07.54 | art3mis | its not intelligent at all ;P |
| 00:08.06 | Teshnor | now that sucks |
| 00:08.07 | Teshnor | :) |
| 00:08.13 | art3mis | and its in the url when you look at the addon on the page for ui wowi and curse |
| 00:08.18 | art3mis | nah its great |
| 00:08.19 | Teshnor | brb, gonna check bf2124 |
| 00:08.23 | Teshnor | 2142.. :P |
| 00:08.25 | art3mis | specially if you sue the same addons all the time |
| 00:08.29 | art3mis | use |
| 00:08.41 | Amadeo | If you played the first Battlefield, you've played them all |
| 00:08.45 | Amadeo | The new ones are just different skins |
| 00:08.46 | Amadeo | :P |
| 00:08.56 | Ominous_ | brb restarting for new ver of TSVN |
| 00:08.56 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r26750 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Forgot to take out some partially-cut-up old code causing an error on line 413. |
| 00:09.02 | art3mis | If you've played BattleToads you don't need to play any video game ever again |
| 00:09.04 | Kemayo | Thanks again, Silviu-. :D |
| 00:09.07 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:09.08 | *** join/#wowace snurre (n=snurre@AVelizy-153-1-33-96.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 00:09.09 | Amadeo | I have played it |
| 00:09.16 | Amadeo | that was a fun game |
| 00:09.19 | art3mis | heh |
| 00:09.34 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26751 10Transcriptor/Core.lua: Transcriptor: Bugfix. |
| 00:09.40 | art3mis | nice update ken ;P |
| 00:09.49 | art3mis | thats another reason i couldnt code for wowace |
| 00:09.58 | art3mis | im horrible at comments |
| 00:10.01 | Silviu- | Kemayo, no problem :P |
| 00:10.03 | Kemayo | (So far my "commit random crap and force other people to send me errors" plan is working like a charm!) |
| 00:10.03 | deltron | Teshnor: hehe yeah, I'm testing vista at work, I hate it :( |
| 00:10.17 | art3mis | **did some stuff.. don't remember what but it ahd something to do with strings |
| 00:10.19 | Silviu- | Thx for fixing it |
| 00:10.20 | Silviu- | :P |
| 00:10.43 | art3mis | you should ditch questfu ken ;) |
| 00:10.48 | art3mis | neurons is pertier ;P |
| 00:10.55 | art3mis | besides ive got other work for you ;P |
| 00:10.58 | art3mis | heh |
| 00:11.23 | art3mis | i want an addon installer ;P |
| 00:11.34 | vhaarr | Bullcrap, QuestsFu pwns that silly nub addon. |
| 00:11.34 | art3mis | that you can run in game that will auto configure shit for you |
| 00:11.46 | art3mis | nah |
| 00:11.50 | art3mis | i love neurons tracker |
| 00:11.55 | art3mis | and really thast all i use |
| 00:11.57 | Amadeo | I love QuestsFu :) |
| 00:11.59 | art3mis | thats |
| 00:12.10 | art3mis | questfu started bugging me |
| 00:12.13 | vhaarr | ~whalecrit art3mis |
| 00:12.16 | purl | ACTION crits art3mis with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. art3mis dies |
| 00:12.23 | art3mis | it and its friggin 400 frames for the tracker ;P |
| 00:12.26 | vhaarr | Then don't use it, what do we care. |
| 00:12.33 | art3mis | at least thats what visor told me when i tried to move it ;P |
| 00:12.59 | Kemayo | art3mis: That's a Tablet. I have no idea how they're structured internally. :D |
| 00:13.12 | art3mis | heh |
| 00:13.15 | art3mis | yeah its funny |
| 00:13.29 | art3mis | move anything and kci's mobility see it as a single entity |
| 00:13.32 | art3mis | visor |
| 00:13.45 | thalie | ~vhaarr |
| 00:13.47 | purl | well, vhaarr is the fastest updater in the west. |
| 00:13.48 | art3mis | its made of aprts for the title the objectives antyhign else thats there the font |
| 00:14.01 | Kemayo | Honestly, I trust ckknight to have optimized Tablet beyond any random XML junk I put together myself. |
| 00:14.02 | art3mis | which makes moving it as a single entity a touch hard |
| 00:14.14 | Kemayo | art3mis: ...wait, why were you moving it with Visor, anyway? |
| 00:14.16 | Feldia | does tekkub ever talk in here? |
| 00:14.19 | thalie | sure |
| 00:14.28 | art3mis | cuz i needed to move some other stuff with visor |
| 00:14.32 | Amadeo | Are you crazy? Not while Heroes is on! |
| 00:14.44 | art3mis | and all my key combos didnt seem to let me move it manually |
| 00:15.00 | art3mis | unless thers a little tiny invisible hotspot i missed |
| 00:15.01 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@198.199.136.120) |
| 00:15.01 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 00:15.32 | art3mis | boy good thing you said that before he got here ken ;P |
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| 00:15.43 | art3mis | his head would have swelled and popped ;) |
| 00:15.51 | *** join/#wowace Ominous_ (i=HydraIRC@88-111-32-195.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 00:16.10 | Kemayo | art3mis: It's just a tablet with a transparent background. You can alt-right-click on it to get a menu which lets you unlock it so it's draggable. (And reduce the transparency so the frame is visible, which would make dragging easier.) |
| 00:16.12 | thalie | morning ck |
| 00:16.21 | Ominous_ | so what do you people think of vista |
| 00:16.27 | art3mis | oh |
| 00:16.33 | art3mis | thats prolly what i missed then |
| 00:16.48 | art3mis | oh well i like nquest now ;P |
| 00:16.49 | thalie | i think vista is an operating system by microsoft |
| 00:16.52 | ckknight | Kemayo: actually, I think there's an issue with that, I should fix it now. |
| 00:16.58 | ckknight | ~vista |
| 00:17.14 | ckknight | Ominous: OS X suits me fine |
| 00:17.41 | art3mis | vista is a horrible pile of retarded monkey crap piled on a layer of razor ribbon packed in a sharded glass condom you insert in your rectum |
| 00:17.44 | Ominous_ | OS X is nice but too expensive to get a nice ma |
| 00:17.55 | thalie | ~vista |
| 00:17.56 | purl | You're not serious, are you? |
| 00:18.00 | art3mis | hah |
| 00:18.07 | art3mis | thats a good response too |
| 00:18.35 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r26752 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/FuBar_RogueTimerFu.toc: FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - toc touch |
| 00:18.40 | art3mis | hrm anyone use simple chat? |
| 00:19.06 | art3mis | im kind of curious about it's format but i dont wanna spawn wow just to see |
| 00:19.08 | *** join/#wowace Meiun|DETH (i=asd@213.66.144.142) |
| 00:19.20 | art3mis | is it kind of like simple combatlog in formatting? |
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| 00:20.04 | Ominous_ | arg is anyone else having trouble with the toc to svn update script as it isnt updating for mny addon |
| 00:20.33 | ckknight | actually, my mac was cheaper than the PC equivalents |
| 00:20.41 | ckknight | so that argument doesn't quite work. |
| 00:20.53 | Ominous_ | oh |
| 00:20.55 | Ominous_ | bah |
| 00:21.00 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r26753 10Necronomicon2/ (Libs/ Necronomicon2.toc): Necronomicon2: Add embed bits, courtesy InBed. Ammo, feel free to smack me later if you'd rather I hadn't done this. |
| 00:21.05 | grennon | does it run on redhat? |
| 00:21.11 | art3mis | heh someone asked me the other day what i thought of macs for graphics and stuff |
| 00:21.37 | Ominous_ | hmm who is in charge of the toc ==> svn update script? |
| 00:21.48 | art3mis | my response was "macs are the gods of graphics and music, when you've got a machine who's only upgrade path to being better is a mainframe indigo you've chosen right" |
| 00:22.09 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26754 10Baggins/ (. Baggins.lua Baggins.toc libs/): Baggins: Use PT3, and fixup some whitespace. |
| 00:22.22 | Amadeo | Check it out guys, Warhammer Online video footage (alpha) - http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/video/files/VotM_Press-RvR.html |
| 00:23.09 | Teshnor | art3mis: :/ just got kicked again |
| 00:23.31 | NeoTron | so anyone tried Van[grind]guard? :) |
| 00:23.35 | *** join/#wowace WALoeIII (n=WALoeIII@68.225.103.204) |
| 00:23.53 | art3mis | but it allowed you to play for a bit? |
| 00:23.58 | Teshnor | yeah |
| 00:24.01 | Teshnor | for like 10mins :) |
| 00:24.04 | art3mis | wierd |
| 00:24.09 | Teshnor | I had good stats when I got booted :( |
| 00:24.16 | art3mis | yerforwarding tcp and udp right? |
| 00:24.23 | Teshnor | 11, 7, 4, 2 :( |
| 00:24.30 | Teshnor | yeah, everything |
| 00:24.35 | art3mis | thats really wierd then |
| 00:24.37 | Teshnor | from port 1-65535 |
| 00:24.40 | Teshnor | :p |
| 00:24.44 | NeoTron | art3mis: I seriously doubt upgrading to an SGI box wouild be an actual upgrade |
| 00:24.51 | art3mis | skip the router and plug in directly? |
| 00:25.01 | art3mis | NeoTron: well not now it wouldnt |
| 00:25.08 | Teshnor | can't it's modem/router in one |
| 00:25.08 | art3mis | NeoTron: but back a few years it was ;P |
| 00:25.14 | ckknight | Amadeo: looks like WoW :-P |
| 00:25.43 | thalie | yeah it does look like wow ... |
| 00:25.58 | Amadeo | Yeah, but... |
| 00:26.06 | art3mis | its warhammer though |
| 00:26.08 | Amadeo | I think closer up the graphics are better |
| 00:26.09 | ckknight | well, maybe if you squint and turn your head it'll look different |
| 00:26.14 | art3mis | mmmmmmm warhammer |
| 00:26.25 | Amadeo | also, I liked DAoC RvR better than WoW PvP |
| 00:26.33 | sylvanaar | dont let anyone con you guys into embedded development |
| 00:26.36 | deltron | wow pvp is boring |
| 00:26.42 | thalie | yeah a better RvR system would be fun |
| 00:26.48 | art3mis | only because they dont have pvp scaling |
| 00:26.48 | Amadeo | one reason is because people were more anonymous...you couldn't mouseover someone and have it say "Level 60 Mage" etc |
| 00:27.07 | ckknight | what's RvR? |
| 00:27.20 | Amadeo | Realm vs Realm |
| 00:27.25 | Amadeo | Basically, Midgard vs Hibernia vs Albion |
| 00:27.27 | ckknight | alright |
| 00:27.36 | ckknight | are there factions? |
| 00:27.41 | ckknight | like how Horde/Allies are? |
| 00:27.46 | Amadeo | Those are them |
| 00:28.03 | SkorcherX | OMG Vista is such a pig... been at the "preparing desktop" screen for like 6 minutes |
| 00:28.05 | Amadeo | They all have their own classes, though some are similar to others |
| 00:28.19 | thalie | i don't like WoW's battlegroups, especially since my realm is in a crappy battlegroup |
| 00:28.24 | sylvanaar | vista is quite large i hope you have a new pc |
| 00:28.29 | Amadeo | I thought DAoC was an amazing game before Trials of Atlantis and on |
| 00:28.30 | Ominous_ | is there anything wrong with http://ace.pastey.net/5773 that could cause the toc script not to weok |
| 00:28.37 | thalie | every time someone mentions vista i'm going to ask purl about it |
| 00:28.39 | thalie | ~vista |
| 00:28.40 | purl | You're not serious, are you? |
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| 00:29.04 | Teshnor | SkorcherX: I recommend www.vlite.net |
| 00:29.51 | SkorcherX | sylvanaar: well i didnt want to screw aroudn with my main PC so im throwing it on a AMD 1600+ 1256 mb of ram, with a NVidai 5500 in it... so its not horrible but def. not top of the line.. |
| 00:29.52 | deltron | I love vista's new update system though |
| 00:30.00 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 00:30.03 | deltron | makes creating builds for me at work easy |
| 00:30.04 | Amadeo | ckknight: Dark Age of Camelot is where Blizzard took Battlegrounds from, afaik |
| 00:30.16 | sylvanaar | then expect poor performance |
| 00:30.21 | ckknight | yea, my roommate used to play that obsessively |
| 00:30.40 | Amadeo | Though, I always thought DAoC PvE was lacking |
| 00:30.43 | Amadeo | But the PvP was great |
| 00:31.05 | deltron | did you ever fall through the world in DAoC? |
| 00:31.07 | deltron | that sucked |
| 00:31.19 | Amadeo | I've fallen through the world more in WoW |
| 00:31.21 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:31.25 | Teshnor | it's called dying and going to hell :D |
| 00:31.27 | deltron | yeah, true lol |
| 00:31.38 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26755 10Talismonger-3.0/: Move from devel branch to trunk |
| 00:31.41 | deltron | it's fun when you're in an instance and the world servers crash |
| 00:31.59 | Amadeo | I thought DAoC had the best server setup possible |
| 00:32.04 | deltron | so you go outside and the world is gray |
| 00:32.25 | Amadeo | All original servers were PvE and PvP...you just went to the Frontiers if you wanted to PvP |
| 00:32.29 | deltron | ok off to level |
| 00:32.35 | Teshnor | tried to run your own hacked server? :D |
| 00:32.37 | Amadeo | if you don't wnat to PvP, you don't go to the frontiers |
| 00:32.40 | sylvanaar | that postcommit hook and tortiseSVN dont get along |
| 00:32.49 | Teshnor | I tried it once, a year ago or so |
| 00:32.51 | Amadeo | nope |
| 00:33.12 | Teshnor | the world was a total mess though ;) but I had all the gm commands and I checked out the gm island etc. |
| 00:33.25 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 00:33.45 | Teshnor | pretty cool actually :D |
| 00:33.46 | SkorcherX | well i must say |
| 00:33.49 | Adirelle_ | night |
| 00:33.52 | SkorcherX | once it finally gets going.. it looks great |
| 00:34.00 | SkorcherX | i installed the "ultimate version" |
| 00:34.00 | Teshnor | Vista is cool |
| 00:34.06 | Amadeo | I still don't think any MMORPG has been as immersive as EverQuest (not II) |
| 00:34.39 | Amadeo | EQ's forced first person view and scale made it much more immersive than games after it |
| 00:34.57 | SkorcherX | i like all the little visuals touches... feels very futuristic... little sluggish on this box but not bad |
| 00:35.20 | ckknight | Amadeo: I would like it if WoW's first-person-view was actually usable. |
| 00:35.27 | ckknight | it's not, though |
| 00:35.28 | Amadeo | Me too |
| 00:35.31 | Amadeo | I miss first person :) |
| 00:35.37 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:35.58 | Amadeo | EQ had arms swinging and shit, so it felt better to use |
| 00:36.05 | ckknight | right |
| 00:36.13 | ckknight | if you zoom in on WoW, you can't see your arms or weapons |
| 00:36.16 | ckknight | which is bad, imho |
| 00:36.17 | art3mis | oh my god |
| 00:36.26 | ckknight | ? |
| 00:36.28 | art3mis | this absolutely rules! |
| 00:36.28 | Amadeo | Yeah, I think so...it's all about immersion |
| 00:36.32 | art3mis | anti's sanity bags |
| 00:36.45 | art3mis | amazing doesnt even cover the pwoer of this addon |
| 00:36.48 | art3mis | pwoer |
| 00:36.50 | art3mis | power |
| 00:36.50 | kergoth | hows it compare to baggins? |
| 00:36.54 | art3mis | destroys it |
| 00:37.00 | kergoth | how so? |
| 00:37.01 | art3mis | and elaves it a pile of ashes |
| 00:37.11 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:37.22 | art3mis | the filters are dynamic and it can sort based on real words |
| 00:37.36 | art3mis | it doesnt have presets so all the fitlers are custom made per bag window |
| 00:37.36 | Amadeo | is it on /files? |
| 00:37.44 | art3mis | nope i snagged alpha from him last night |
| 00:37.58 | art3mis | like forexample you've got a bag |
| 00:38.22 | art3mis | adn you want it to filter all yer food you type in "must remain seated" and poof all water and food with bonuses are added |
| 00:38.41 | art3mis | type in quest and everything thats a quest related item shows |
| 00:38.47 | art3mis | etc etc etc |
| 00:38.54 | art3mis | and it can pull from tooltip |
| 00:39.05 | ggilbert_ | Baggins can pull from the tooltip, iirc |
| 00:39.14 | art3mis | so if you've got an addon that shows what prof stuff is for you can filter based on that as well |
| 00:39.29 | art3mis | without needing to click through a ton of windows |
| 00:39.33 | art3mis | you just type it in |
| 00:39.39 | art3mis | its pretty awesome |
| 00:39.43 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle * r26756 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: |
| 00:39.44 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests: |
| 00:39.44 | CIA-17 | - fixed a bug where quests of new quest giver were missing, |
| 00:39.44 | CIA-17 | - should not create note for quests started by an item. |
| 00:39.44 | art3mis | and exactly what i wanted ;P |
| 00:39.50 | art3mis | im gonna go play with it more |
| 00:39.55 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r26757 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: .Tablet-2.0 - buttons now can be dragged and it'll be as if the whole tablet is being dragged. (like how it used to function) |
| 00:40.02 | ckknight | Kemayo: ^--- |
| 00:40.12 | ggilbert_ | I'll have to pester antiarc for a copy :) |
| 00:40.19 | Antiarc | wait what |
| 00:40.26 | xlvii | I can't decide on which Alchemy mastery I should get! ;( |
| 00:40.31 | xlvii | Any tips? ;p |
| 00:40.35 | kergoth | i like having an all in one bag but with everything categorized within it, myself |
| 00:40.41 | Amadeo | Me too |
| 00:40.55 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r26758 10MCP-QQ/MCP/ (ACP.lua ACP.toc ACP.xml MCP.lua MCP.toc MCP.xml): MCP-QQ: QQ post-commit hook |
| 00:40.55 | AndyG | which bag addon is this? |
| 00:41.01 | Amadeo | Well, not broken into categories...I guess it would be nice, but I wouldn't want to have to configure it :P |
| 00:41.02 | art3mis | its beta sanity bags |
| 00:41.08 | Antiarc | Alpha. EARLY alpha. :P |
| 00:41.12 | art3mis | yup yup |
| 00:41.14 | art3mis | but still rad |
| 00:41.18 | AndyG | ok sweet |
| 00:41.23 | AndyG | looking forward to seeing it on the /files |
| 00:41.24 | Trancer | OneBag is broken somewhat |
| 00:41.26 | Trancer | or well .. broken |
| 00:41.39 | Trancer | it doesn't scale well if you modify the UI Scale |
| 00:41.45 | ggilbert_ | The only real problem I have with baggins usability is the way things are sorted. |
| 00:42.06 | ggilbert_ | but it's such a minor situational issue. |
| 00:43.04 | kergoth | you mean the way categories move around within the bag, or sorting within the categories? |
| 00:43.09 | Teshnor | can anything but a hit trigger a weapons proc? |
| 00:43.15 | kergoth | i like the options for hte latter, not so much the former behavior |
| 00:43.18 | ggilbert_ | kergoth: the way items are sorted within a category. |
| 00:43.49 | kergoth | whats the problem with it? i love the options for that, vbagnon had no choices for sorting within a category at all |
| 00:43.50 | ggilbert_ | The only case where it really hits is if you're shuffling gear or using a vendor. |
| 00:44.11 | Teshnor | for example, can a windfury proc trigger if your opponent block or parry? |
| 00:44.24 | NeoTron | Ok in my cosmos free world I am missing a "move any frame" type addon. Anything like that in ace? |
| 00:44.28 | ggilbert_ | Particularly, you put one piece of gear on and the item taken off is who knows where in the bag |
| 00:44.33 | NeoTron | for things like quest windows, vendors etc |
| 00:44.34 | Amadeo | I wasn't a big fan of vBagnon, personally...though I loved regular ole Bagnon |
| 00:44.54 | chutwig | i don't know about windfury but with SoC you can miss one and hit with the other |
| 00:45.00 | chutwig | as in, miss in melee but hit with SoC or vice versa |
| 00:45.04 | NeoTron | Amadeo: swapped to ArkInventory now once I realized you can sort. |
| 00:45.06 | Teshnor | TBag ftw! |
| 00:45.06 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r26759 10MCP-QQ/ (ACP/ MCP/): MCP->ACP |
| 00:45.23 | Teshnor | Too bad it isn't built with ace2 ;) |
| 00:45.25 | Amadeo | NeoTron: I liked Ark, but I don't want it to save my other character inventories :) |
| 00:45.28 | Trancer | teabagging? that sounds like a pleasant addon :S |
| 00:45.37 | NeoTron | Baggings is not bad but since I don't need, nor want, the multi-virtual-bag feature ... |
| 00:45.40 | *** join/#wowace luigi`` (n=ours-ver@dyn-88-122-220-154.ppp.tiscali.fr) |
| 00:45.46 | Teshnor | TBag = enhanced engbags ;) |
| 00:45.51 | NeoTron | Amadeo: not an option to disable it? |
| 00:45.52 | art3mis | hah |
| 00:46.14 | Trancer | Teshnor: you know what teabagging is, right? :p |
| 00:46.23 | Teshnor | lol yar ;) |
| 00:46.26 | Amadeo | NeoTron: Not sure actually, I don't believe there was one when I last tried it |
| 00:46.34 | ggilbert_ | kergoth: 90% of it is probably just trying to unlearn blizzards bags :) |
| 00:46.59 | SkorcherX | for some reason vista is only downloading at like 30k.. while this comp is downloading atl ike... 300k |
| 00:47.01 | SkorcherX | ??? |
| 00:47.37 | NeoTron | I like that option myself since it makes it so easy to check on my bank / ah alts |
| 00:47.53 | Teshnor | "The practice can also extend to placing one's testicles in the eye sockets or nose of another person, often as a punishment for the other person's drunkenness, especially when carried out while the other person is unconscious." |
| 00:47.54 | Teshnor | hahaha |
| 00:48.01 | ggilbert_ | ... |
| 00:48.03 | NeoTron | So why do people go running for vista? |
| 00:48.07 | Teshnor | You gotta love wikipedia :D |
| 00:48.19 | NeoTron | it's like installing software that wants to partially take over control of your computer |
| 00:48.27 | NeoTron | without adding any benefit except visual fluff |
| 00:48.44 | Teshnor | bullshit :) |
| 00:49.03 | Antiarc | Greg: http://wow.tachyonsix.com/SanityBags-0.1-alpha.zip |
| 00:49.05 | Teshnor | they refurbished alot of stuff below the surface, you don't even know half of it |
| 00:49.06 | Amadeo | Vista has a lot of changes besides fluff |
| 00:49.08 | NeoTron | problem is it'll succeed becausue Joe Schmoe doesn't know better when he buys a new computer |
| 00:49.09 | Antiarc | No support offered, alpha, yada yada |
| 00:49.13 | ggilbert_ | hehe |
| 00:49.18 | chutwig | it does have some benefits, but i just like being smug towards people who talk about how it's so great with all these new features |
| 00:49.19 | NeoTron | it does, but changes doesn't mean improvements |
| 00:49.27 | AndyG | NeoTron: it's new |
| 00:49.28 | NeoTron | changes include crippling DRM features |
| 00:49.30 | ggilbert_ | I will poke it when I get home |
| 00:49.32 | AndyG | that's reason #1 |
| 00:49.32 | Teshnor | NeoTron: Do you use any Microsoft products? |
| 00:49.34 | Amadeo | I'd say a lot are improvements...there are problems with it also, though |
| 00:49.35 | NeoTron | and Feature lockdown functionality |
| 00:49.46 | NeoTron | Teshnor: how do you think I play WoW? |
| 00:49.57 | NeoTron | and no I don't use cedega / wine |
| 00:49.59 | CIA-17 | 03epsil * r26760 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ReagentFuLocals-frFR.lua: |
| 00:49.59 | CIA-17 | FuBar_ReagentFu: |
| 00:49.59 | CIA-17 | -Adding New Reagent for druid 70 |
| 00:49.59 | CIA-17 | -Updated enUs, frFR, deDE, koKR locals |
| 00:50.02 | Teshnor | NeoTron: ok, second question... Have you paid for it? (you don't have to answer) |
| 00:50.05 | ckknight | NeoTron: I don't, I use Mac |
| 00:50.06 | NeoTron | yes |
| 00:50.18 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26761 10Cartographer_Herbalism/ (Cartographer_Herbalism.toc addon.lua libs/): Cartographer_Herbalism: finally ported code to use Talismonger |
| 00:50.22 | NeoTron | I have two legally licended (MS employee purchased copies) XP |
| 00:50.25 | Amadeo | You have to remember that Microsoft may not always have the option to not include that DRM and such...they have a lot more pressure on them than anyone else |
| 00:50.31 | CIA-17 | 03tornhoof * r26762 10Yata/ (Options.lua TotemBar.lua TotemButton.lua TotemData.lua): |
| 00:50.31 | CIA-17 | Yata: |
| 00:50.31 | CIA-17 | - Removed getglobal calls, a few table calls etc. work in progress |
| 00:50.34 | Teshnor | NeoTron: People like you where saying the same about XP when it came... |
| 00:50.41 | NeoTron | rather MS ex-employee program (friend used to worked there) |
| 00:50.45 | NeoTron | well |
| 00:50.57 | NeoTron | XP had the benefit of being based on the NT codeline |
| 00:51.12 | CIA-17 | 03epsil * r26763 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ReagentFuLocals-koKR.lua: |
| 00:51.12 | CIA-17 | FuBar_ReagentFu: |
| 00:51.12 | CIA-17 | -Adding New Reagent for druid 70 |
| 00:51.12 | CIA-17 | -Updated enUs, frFR, deDE, koKR locals |
| 00:51.19 | NeoTron | but the bottom line is that other than visual fluff it really wasn't much better than Windows 200 |
| 00:51.22 | NeoTron | 2000 |
| 00:51.39 | NeoTron | and in fact a friend still uses Windows 2000 for WoW because has had no reason to upgrade |
| 00:51.41 | Teshnor | NeoTron: Well, Vista is based on 2003 so... |
| 00:51.56 | NeoTron | I'm sure theer are improved code base in Vista |
| 00:52.12 | NeoTron | but also remember that a rewritten network stack, although probably needed, is an untested network stack |
| 00:52.15 | Teshnor | So why the heck are you whining about it? It's not like you are forced to use it... Not yet at least ;) |
| 00:52.23 | Amadeo | There's a lot of good things about Vista that most people don't know about |
| 00:52.23 | NeoTron | and I don't mind the graphical fluff so much but the whole DRM stuff |
| 00:52.29 | *** join/#wowace gix- (i=gix@85.180.9.120) |
| 00:52.38 | Teshnor | When it comes to technology, everything new is untested :) |
| 00:52.41 | Amadeo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_Vista |
| 00:52.52 | Amadeo | I like the Audio section |
| 00:52.56 | Teshnor | Take the space shuttles for example |
| 00:52.57 | NeoTron | not whining about it, just curious why people apparently waited to buy it like it was a WoW expansion or something |
| 00:52.57 | CIA-17 | 03epsil * r26764 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ReagentFuLocals-enUS.lua: |
| 00:52.57 | CIA-17 | FuBar_ReagentFu: |
| 00:52.58 | CIA-17 | -Adding New Reagent for druid 70 |
| 00:52.58 | CIA-17 | -Updated enUs, frFR, deDE, koKR locals |
| 00:53.06 | Teshnor | "Are they tested?" "Yeah"... then "Boom!" |
| 00:53.10 | CIA-17 | 03epsil * r26765 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ReagentFuLocals-deDE.lua: |
| 00:53.10 | CIA-17 | FuBar_ReagentFu: |
| 00:53.10 | CIA-17 | -Adding New Reagent for druid 70 |
| 00:53.10 | CIA-17 | -Updated enUs, frFR, deDE, koKR locals |
| 00:53.13 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r26766 10MCP-QQ/ACP/ (. ACP.lua ACP.xml): ACP: Name change fixups Master -> Addon, Program -> Panel |
| 00:53.13 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r26767 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs : Updated localization koKR |
| 00:53.19 | Amadeo | NeoTron: I'm not sure everyone using it has bought it :) |
| 00:53.29 | NeoTron | and btw I'm very much fond of graphical fluff. that's one reason I changed to XP ;-) |
| 00:53.42 | CIA-17 | 03epsil * r26768 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ReagentFu.lua: |
| 00:53.42 | CIA-17 | FuBar_ReagentFu: |
| 00:53.42 | CIA-17 | -Adding New Reagent for druid 70 |
| 00:53.42 | CIA-17 | -Updated enUs, frFR, deDE, koKR locals |
| 00:53.43 | Teshnor | I haven't bought it... I got it from MSDN, through work |
| 00:54.00 | Teshnor | NeoTron: XP looks like shite |
| 00:54.04 | Silviu- | sylvanaar why u don`t add in ytunk ? |
| 00:54.05 | Amadeo | I like fluff, but not at the expense of a snappy system |
| 00:54.08 | Silviu- | trunk* |
| 00:54.14 | Teshnor | and you can turn off all the fluff in Vista if you don't want it |
| 00:54.26 | sylvanaar | Silviu- im going to in a minute |
| 00:54.32 | Silviu- | Oh oky :P |
| 00:55.09 | NeoTron | Teshnor: ah but it looks better than windows 2000/98 |
| 00:55.24 | NeoTron | Amadeo: my computer can handle vista with a lot of fluff no problem |
| 00:55.35 | Teshnor | whining about a new os, is like being an orthodox christian who doesn't like the fact that gay couples are being able to marry in church |
| 00:56.07 | Amadeo | NeoTron: hehe |
| 00:56.14 | Teshnor | orthodox/christian .. slash somehow dissapeared |
| 00:56.15 | ckknight | that's up to the individual church or denomination |
| 00:56.25 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: Apparently hooking LoadAddOn is not a good idea. |
| 00:56.32 | Teshnor | ckknight: sure :) but some people don't think so |
| 00:56.37 | ckknight | no church is forced to marry gays, unless it's in their bylaws |
| 00:56.40 | Teshnor | they want to stay in the old times... and kill all the gays :) |
| 00:56.55 | ckknight | not all the gays |
| 00:57.01 | Teshnor | ckknight: more and more churches are allowing it though |
| 00:57.03 | ckknight | just the ones that give them confusing feelings |
| 00:57.08 | Teshnor | hahaha :D |
| 00:57.14 | Ominous_ | whats the point in running the LOD.bat file in babble2-2? |
| 00:57.42 | Ominous_ | as when an addon loads babble every LOD lib which is made will load anyway wont it? |
| 00:57.58 | NeoTron | I'll probably buy vista via my friend again and put it on a different partition.. at some point |
| 00:58.01 | NeoTron | but not now :) |
| 00:58.10 | SkorcherX | its a beast |
| 00:58.12 | vhaarr | Ominous_: It that was true, the LoD bat would be useless. |
| 00:58.18 | SkorcherX | very snazzy though |
| 00:58.18 | vhaarr | Ominous_: So no, that's not how it works. |
| 00:58.33 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: The problem is that Blizzard_RaidUI is loaded with LoadAddOn, and so when you taint that, the raid UI is no longer secure. |
| 00:58.50 | ckknight | vhaarr: ick |
| 00:58.56 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r26769 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc Karazhan/Karazhan.toc Karazhan/Moroes.lua): BigWigs: Karazhan: added Moroes mod |
| 00:58.58 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 00:59.11 | ckknight | I don't see a reason to taint it, though |
| 00:59.15 | ckknight | just do a secure hook. |
| 00:59.16 | ckknight | or something. |
| 00:59.19 | Teshnor | SkorcherX: It's not really that beastie if you turn off all the extra stuff they added ;) |
| 00:59.36 | vhaarr | ckknight: The addon sylvanaar is making adds a "Never load this addon" option, apparently. |
| 00:59.47 | vhaarr | ckknight: So he hooks LoadAddOn to prevent those addons from loading. |
| 00:59.48 | Teshnor | my vista is "only" using 300 meg ;) and that's with firefox using about 55 of em :P |
| 00:59.51 | ckknight | oh |
| 00:59.51 | SkorcherX | yeah but thats the stuff i wanna see.. i wanan see the windows flip up, and fading and all sorts of little tricks |
| 00:59.59 | ckknight | yea, that'll mess up :-P |
| 00:59.59 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: What I'm saying is that you should just remove that option. |
| 01:00.02 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: And not hook. |
| 01:00.49 | ggilbert_ | Teshnor: My issue is lest with the various fancy bits as with things like the secure audio path and things like that. |
| 01:00.53 | ggilbert_ | less |
| 01:00.54 | vhaarr | After all, if users don't want an addon to ever load, they should just remove the damn folder. |
| 01:00.59 | Teshnor | ckknight: is your module system for Cartographer working good for ya? |
| 01:01.05 | ckknight | Teshnor: seems to be |
| 01:01.11 | ckknight | alright, gotta go to Poly Sci |
| 01:01.15 | ckknight | cya all later |
| 01:01.26 | vhaarr | cya |
| 01:01.30 | Teshnor | ckknight: I'm thinking about adapting that idea to my addon :) I'm researching different methods |
| 01:01.32 | sylvanaar | vhaarr: it uses secure hoook |
| 01:01.52 | sylvanaar | doesnt matter? taints anyways? |
| 01:02.24 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: If you're using secure hook, the code isn't working as intended. |
| 01:02.32 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r26770 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Moroes.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan: Moroes: oops, fix health scanning |
| 01:02.32 | sylvanaar | yeah, ok |
| 01:02.34 | vhaarr | You can't |return nil, "REFUSE_TO_LOAD";| |
| 01:02.35 | Teshnor | ggilbert: I agree with you on that though... But there will always be some brilliant young peeps to find a way to get around it anyway :P |
| 01:02.37 | vhaarr | from a securehook |
| 01:02.40 | vhaarr | and think it matters. |
| 01:02.52 | ggilbert_ | Teshnor: Hopefully. :) |
| 01:02.53 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: The return value from the secure hook will be disregarded. |
| 01:02.55 | sylvanaar | i didnt write that |
| 01:02.57 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: So there's no point. |
| 01:03.04 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: I realise that, I'm just saying :) |
| 01:03.21 | Teshnor | anyone else running vista + playing bf2142? |
| 01:03.33 | sylvanaar | yeah, ok, thanks for the heads up. never even used that function actually |
| 01:03.40 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 01:03.43 | vhaarr | silly option |
| 01:03.48 | Teshnor | since yesterday PB have started to kick me, and I get a blank pb window after I get booted :/ |
| 01:04.05 | Teshnor | in pbs logs it says something about ignoring queries, but that's it |
| 01:04.17 | NeoTron | so does vista finally have real soft/hardlinks? |
| 01:04.23 | Teshnor | nope |
| 01:04.27 | Teshnor | :/ |
| 01:04.43 | Teshnor | it's because they haven't introduced winfs yet |
| 01:05.07 | Teshnor | the links only work from localhost :/ |
| 01:05.25 | NeoTron | hrm |
| 01:05.30 | Xuerian | WinFS mightaswell never have been announced. Doing so didn't put it any closer to reality than did not working on it. |
| 01:05.31 | Teshnor | and I'm still having huge problems with links :/ |
| 01:05.33 | NeoTron | do they work from a command console at least? |
| 01:05.43 | Teshnor | I've linked C:\Games and C:\Program Files to their own partitions |
| 01:05.55 | Teshnor | but some applications remove the link when I uninstall them |
| 01:06.09 | NeoTron | nice |
| 01:06.15 | Teshnor | and some installers look up the remaining space on C:\ and not on the partition where the link is pointing :/ |
| 01:06.21 | Teshnor | which sucks |
| 01:06.23 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower|Univ (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 01:06.26 | Teshnor | since I only got 2GB of space on C:\ |
| 01:06.29 | NeoTron | in linux the best way to do that is loop back mounting :) |
| 01:06.42 | vhaarr | Vista sort of has symlinks, they're just localmachine-only, I thought. |
| 01:06.44 | Teshnor | it happends in linux as well? :D |
| 01:06.49 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r26771 10MCP-QQ/ACP/ (ACP.lua ACP.toc localization.lua): ACP: Fixes ingame issues resulting from name change |
| 01:07.01 | Teshnor | vhaarr: Yeah, they do have it... But they existed in xp as well |
| 01:07.08 | Xuerian | Teshnor: Why not just make a data partition? |
| 01:07.13 | Teshnor | there are some new link types available in vista |
| 01:07.19 | Xuerian | And install it to the partition instead of over a link? |
| 01:07.39 | sylvanaar | um, anyone know of the top of their head how to set the max width of a tooltip? just call setwidth? |
| 01:07.48 | Teshnor | Xuerian: Because I want to use the default paths for applications |
| 01:08.18 | Teshnor | I got like 4 partitions... 1 for system, 1 for games, 1 for apps and 1 for data |
| 01:08.26 | Teshnor | only system and data have their own drives |
| 01:08.29 | Teshnor | easier that way |
| 01:08.30 | sylvanaar | i have a wow partition |
| 01:08.33 | Xuerian | Teshnor: I suppose that does make it harder.. I don't use defaults even on the same drive. |
| 01:08.37 | Teshnor | sylvanaar: wow! |
| 01:08.43 | sylvanaar | makes sense |
| 01:08.59 | Teshnor | actually, my setup is really good |
| 01:09.10 | Teshnor | i've been having it for a long time |
| 01:09.48 | Xuerian | I prefer programs and most non-data things to reside on the system drive, which stays about 8gb, then data, projects, and games on the rest. Programs organized fully, of course. |
| 01:10.01 | Teshnor | I'm using software spanning over three disks as well ;) |
| 01:10.26 | Teshnor | so these old PATA drives give me the performance of a 15k SCSI disk ;) |
| 01:11.00 | Teshnor | Xuerian: And when you reformat everything dissapears :p |
| 01:11.13 | Xuerian | Teshnor: When I reformat I have to reinstall everything anyway. |
| 01:11.22 | Xuerian | Lovely thing, the registry |
| 01:11.33 | Teshnor | not all programs are registry-dependant |
| 01:11.47 | Teshnor | and most of them only store non-crucial information in the registry anyway |
| 01:11.56 | Teshnor | and will recreate them on the first run |
| 01:12.06 | Teshnor | as long as you have the application data folder it's fine ;) |
| 01:12.13 | Xuerian | Programs disappearing with reinstall also gives me a chance to set out fresh. I usually keep the old contents of the drive locked away on another partition till I'm fully running again. But you do have a point. |
| 01:12.35 | Teshnor | and I guess you don't reformat that often |
| 01:12.45 | Teshnor | I do it about 5-6 times per year |
| 01:12.48 | Xuerian | ... Why? |
| 01:12.53 | Xuerian | I'm curious, actually |
| 01:13.07 | Teshnor | keeps the system fresh |
| 01:13.20 | Teshnor | windows tend to be bogged up after some time |
| 01:13.29 | Xuerian | Teshnor: Wise administration goes a extremely long way to keeping it fresh for longer than two months at a time. |
| 01:13.52 | Teshnor | you might get used to it, but I promise you... after reinstall you always get to say "WOW! Is my computer really this fast?" |
| 01:14.25 | Teshnor | Xuerian: Thing is, I don't really care anymore :) it takes more time to be wise than to reinstall hehe |
| 01:14.31 | Teshnor | I used to care ALOT |
| 01:14.31 | Xuerian | I must be the exception. My computer went just about the same speed after I reinstalled the last time, except for admittedly clearing up a couple quirks that came in about two years into the install |
| 01:14.48 | Teshnor | I used to have anti-virus, firewall etc. etc. |
| 01:14.52 | Teshnor | running defrag everyday |
| 01:14.58 | Teshnor | and so forth |
| 01:15.14 | Teshnor | really treating my computer like a second girlfriend :) |
| 01:15.24 | Teshnor | but it's just a waste of time |
| 01:15.54 | Teshnor | you never really get anything out of it anyway... it's just better to build a custom installation of windows, set it up as you'd like it to be so you can be ready to reinstall whenever needed |
| 01:15.57 | Xuerian | All that time goes to customizing the way mine looks. I keep nod32 and windows firewall running, and I have no problems. |
| 01:16.18 | Teshnor | I have no problems without firewall nor anti-virus :) |
| 01:16.36 | Teshnor | well except from the fact that I'm getting booted from bf2142 servers :/ |
| 01:16.38 | Xuerian | Though, you do reinstall every two months instead ;) |
| 01:16.51 | Teshnor | yeah, and it takes 15 minutes |
| 01:16.52 | Teshnor | tops |
| 01:17.06 | Teshnor | and since I have custom installation I don't have to waste time on configuring afterwards |
| 01:17.18 | Xuerian | Takes me about that to actually maintain my system, perhaps a little more. Though I do see the wisdom in doing that. |
| 01:17.49 | Teshnor | yeah but maintaining the system will never be as effective as starting out fresh ;) |
| 01:18.17 | Xuerian | If I were that worried about it, I'd run linux. :P |
| 01:18.35 | Teshnor | hehe, I'm a hardcore gamer... linux wouldn't do it for me :) |
| 01:21.18 | Xuerian | <Shrug> You do make a point there. I don't find that the minute idiosyncrasies are worth setting up custom installations for, but again, I do see the wisdom and effectiveness in it ^_^ |
| 01:22.12 | Teshnor | Xuerian: ;) question.... why do you work? |
| 01:22.20 | Teshnor | I mean, what's the meaning to have a job? |
| 01:22.28 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 01:22.28 | SkorcherX | to afford life |
| 01:22.34 | Xuerian | To fuel the having fun. |
| 01:22.48 | Teshnor | And the having fun part start after work right? :) |
| 01:23.01 | Xuerian | Indeed. |
| 01:23.13 | Teshnor | So you work most of your life, and at 60-65 you can start to have fun! |
| 01:23.33 | ggilbert_ | I think skorcherX's answer is a bit more realistic :) |
| 01:23.50 | Xuerian | Hm, well... No, actually I do have fun at work. But anyhow, no, I disagree to that. |
| 01:24.06 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r26772 10MCP-QQ/ACP/ (ACP.lua ACP.toc): ACP: Fixes a toc issue and adds the non-load reason to the tooltip. |
| 01:24.13 | Teshnor | Then I'll say your one in a million :) |
| 01:24.23 | Teshnor | Most people would rather be free from work |
| 01:25.04 | Teshnor | I always try to think what would happen in the long run.. That's why I've invested my time in custom installations :) |
| 01:25.12 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r26773 10MCP-QQ/ACP/ACP.toc: ACP: adds my name |
| 01:25.53 | Teshnor | In short, it would be a waste of time... But in the long run, I'll get more time to enjoy a fully working computer at all times :) |
| 01:26.05 | Xuerian | Then again, I -enjoy- tinkering with the computer beyond games, so I guess I am a exception |
| 01:26.17 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r26774 10ACP/: ACP: branch to trunk |
| 01:26.33 | Teshnor | I enjoy that as well |
| 01:26.43 | Teshnor | But not all the time :D |
| 01:26.48 | Xuerian | True :P |
| 01:26.52 | Teshnor | I want to be able to choose when to tinker and when not |
| 01:27.15 | Teshnor | My mothers brand new computer have more problems than my computer :) |
| 01:27.48 | Teshnor | I told her this: As long as you got HP's premade os installation on there, I will not help you :) |
| 01:28.08 | Teshnor | So she's been forced to call HP support numerous times already... :P |
| 01:28.24 | Xuerian | Aside from my whole "It's more time consuming" argument, i do want to figure out the whole custom installation thing. :p |
| 01:28.42 | Teshnor | Well, it's easy? :) |
| 01:28.53 | Teshnor | With tools like vLite and nLite, it's a piece of cake |
| 01:28.54 | Xuerian | Aye, but figuring out exactly what I can and cannot live without. ;P |
| 01:29.10 | Teshnor | Most stuff you can live without |
| 01:29.29 | Teshnor | And it's easier to install something you need, than uninstalling something you don't :D |
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| 01:30.26 | Xuerian | :P |
| 01:31.20 | Teshnor | I think you're being converted :D |
| 01:31.58 | Xuerian | Aye, but I've only really got one box to play with, so doing so is slow ;0 |
| 01:32.01 | art3mis | hey dumb question time |
| 01:32.06 | art3mis | if i have periodic table 3 |
| 01:32.11 | Amadeo | vLite? What's the point of that? Everyone has hard drive space |
| 01:32.12 | art3mis | can i get rid of 1 and 2? |
| 01:32.40 | Teshnor | Amadeo: Uhm, that's not the point with vLite |
| 01:32.54 | Amadeo | Maybe I'm thinking of another program |
| 01:32.59 | Teshnor | Did you miss the fact that they reduced memory usage by 400mb? :) |
| 01:33.07 | Amadeo | by doing what? |
| 01:33.16 | Teshnor | Removing unnecessary services |
| 01:33.26 | Teshnor | Just like XP, Vista has EVERYTHING running |
| 01:33.31 | Amadeo | Can't you do that without vLite? |
| 01:33.36 | Teshnor | It's made for the dumb |
| 01:34.02 | Teshnor | Of course you can, but it's a pain.. |
| 01:34.15 | Teshnor | And doing it after installation is not the same as doing it during installation |
| 01:34.19 | Amadeo | Well, an average user shouldn't be messing with them anyway :) |
| 01:34.41 | Teshnor | Firstly, if you wanna do it without vlite you need to do it manually, everytime you reinstall |
| 01:34.57 | Teshnor | Secondly, the files that are used by the services you disable will still be on your hard drive |
| 01:35.00 | Amadeo | What's the difference between disabling a service and not installing it at all? Hard drive space |
| 01:35.11 | Amadeo | Yeah, so I was right the first time ;) |
| 01:35.17 | Teshnor | No? |
| 01:35.38 | Teshnor | It's not just about disk space, it's a performance issue as well |
| 01:35.42 | Amadeo | Ok |
| 01:36.06 | Amadeo | Then...if I have Windows Search installed, but I disable the service...and you just never installed the service at all, who uses more running resources? |
| 01:36.10 | _neuron_ | is there a function in cartographer to set a temporary waypoint now? so I can do /goto x,y and it'll show me the way? |
| 01:36.17 | Teshnor | All files on your system partition affect system performance... Even if it's marginally, too many files will bog your system and fragment your disk alot easier |
| 01:36.21 | SkorcherX | www.aim.com |
| 01:36.51 | Silviu- | _neuron_ /way 55,55 |
| 01:37.05 | Amadeo | You'll never notice a speed decrease on your disk unless it's extremely heavily fragmented or full, and since those files will never be written/removed, it will do neither of that |
| 01:37.07 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26775 10Talismonger-3.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Talismonger-3.0: fixed directory structure |
| 01:37.12 | _neuron_ | thanks |
| 01:37.14 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r26776 10MCP-QQ/ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: Changed the date |
| 01:37.48 | Teshnor | Amadeo: I use less resources... Since resources have to do with everything.... HDD, RAM, CPU etc. |
| 01:37.53 | Gnarfoz_ | with a modern file system like ntfs, even less so, anyway |
| 01:37.58 | Amadeo | hard disk space doesn't count as resources |
| 01:37.59 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26777 10Cartographer_Herbalism/libs/: Cartographer_Herbalism: fixed externals |
| 01:38.02 | Amadeo | not to me, anyway |
| 01:38.04 | Teshnor | ntfs isn't modern |
| 01:38.05 | Amadeo | it's just storage |
| 01:38.08 | Gnarfoz_ | ntfs IS modern |
| 01:38.13 | Teshnor | is not |
| 01:38.14 | Gnarfoz_ | compared to fat? :p |
| 01:38.16 | art3mis | but i keep getting memory errors...should i get a bigger harddrive?! |
| 01:38.20 | Teshnor | fat is ancient |
| 01:38.27 | Gnarfoz_ | so, ntfs is modern in comparison |
| 01:38.27 | art3mis | ;) |
| 01:38.28 | Amadeo | a disabled service acts exactly the same as a service not installed, the difference is hard drive space |
| 01:38.39 | Arrowmaster | lol i just found an awesome bug with QuestFu, i have the quest to kill Murmur in shadow lab and i just moused over some player with the name Murmur and the quest details poped up in the tooltip, also seen it happen with hunter pets |
| 01:38.41 | art3mis | here is all you need to know about vista xp and win2k |
| 01:38.44 | Gnarfoz_ | HPFS ftw, anyway, and ntfs is just a butchered version of that :> |
| 01:38.47 | ggilbert_ | This makes me want to move to a small island with no electricity. |
| 01:38.49 | art3mis | it's "built on NT Technology" |
| 01:38.59 | art3mis | now NT stands for New Technology |
| 01:39.06 | Teshnor | Gnarfoz_: Titanic is modern compared to the old steam cruisers from the late 1890's |
| 01:39.11 | art3mis | therefore its New Technology Technology |
| 01:39.18 | Gnarfoz_ | stands for N10 technology, art3mis :> (at least it did, originally) |
| 01:39.19 | art3mis | and thus redundant ;P |
| 01:39.27 | Teshnor | Everythig is relative :) |
| 01:39.32 | Amadeo | N10do |
| 01:39.36 | art3mis | hah |
| 01:39.40 | Teshnor | Relative to the time and space :) |
| 01:39.46 | Amadeo | Hiro?! |
| 01:39.56 | art3mis | although ntfs is better than fat or fat32 |
| 01:39.56 | Teshnor | Continuum ;) |
| 01:40.05 | art3mis | its still not as good as extfs |
| 01:40.14 | art3mis | ext2fs |
| 01:40.16 | Gnarfoz_ | ext has its drawbacks, too |
| 01:40.29 | art3mis | true but not as blatant and annoying as ntfs |
| 01:40.29 | Gnarfoz_ | ext2 doesn't even have journaling |
| 01:40.43 | art3mis | remember fat8? |
| 01:40.45 | Gnarfoz_ | at least ntfs has ACLs :< |
| 01:41.01 | Teshnor | I would like to see a filesystem that creates sub-partitions for every program that needs to be installed :) thus getting rid of fragmentation |
| 01:41.03 | art3mis | i miss os/2 |
| 01:41.06 | Amadeo | Looking at what vLite does, I'd say its best feature is being able to create a customized install so you don't have to reconfigure it a lot...however, I tend to install once every couple years or something, so it's not a big deal...I'd probably lose the custom CD anyway |
| 01:41.07 | Arrowmaster | ntfs has hardlinks but nobody ever uses them |
| 01:41.12 | Gnarfoz_ | yeah, os/2 was the shit :> |
| 01:41.16 | Gnarfoz_ | I do |
| 01:41.25 | Teshnor | ntfs doesn't have real hardlinks arrowmaster :/ |
| 01:41.28 | Gnarfoz_ | to fake big shared folders for file sharing programs on lan parties xD |
| 01:41.32 | Gnarfoz_ | it does |
| 01:41.35 | Teshnor | they are only accessible from localhost |
| 01:41.35 | art3mis | heh |
| 01:41.36 | Gnarfoz_ | it only has hard links |
| 01:41.42 | Teshnor | how can you call that real hard links?! |
| 01:41.44 | Gnarfoz_ | no symlinks, tho |
| 01:41.58 | Teshnor | in ntfs it's same shit different name :/ |
| 01:42.10 | PogoTribal | the "spark" on FuXPFu goes off the left side of the FuBar. |
| 01:42.13 | Gnarfoz_ | huh? |
| 01:42.25 | Gnarfoz_ | same shit as what? ^^ |
| 01:42.37 | Amadeo | I hear all the cool kids use Reiser |
| 01:42.44 | Gnarfoz_ | oh yeah, murderFS |
| 01:42.45 | Gnarfoz_ | :p |
| 01:43.06 | Arrowmaster | i do wish windows had symlinks instead of those stupidass .lnk files that are useless |
| 01:43.14 | Teshnor | the cool kids ride on skateboard without protection as well :) |
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| 01:43.44 | Amadeo | Hey, look where it got Tony Hawk |
| 01:43.46 | Amadeo | He's pretty rich! |
| 01:43.49 | kagaro | ok, i finally added talismonger to cart herbalism |
| 01:43.52 | Teshnor | coolness and idiocity goes hand in hand ;) |
| 01:44.00 | art3mis | and hell have arthritis in about 10 years |
| 01:44.04 | art3mis | over his entire body |
| 01:44.07 | Gnarfoz_ | kagaro: noticed. does that mean it wont pick up nodes you can't yet harvest, anymore? |
| 01:44.12 | art3mis | and will be on perm vicodin ;P |
| 01:44.16 | Teshnor | Amadeo: Bill Gates is rich :) |
| 01:44.20 | kagaro | nope, those are handled |
| 01:44.36 | art3mis | hrm |
| 01:44.37 | Teshnor | And he's still not a talented speaker |
| 01:44.39 | kagaro | as long as your arent mounted, trying to pick the node will register |
| 01:44.41 | Gnarfoz_ | inside talismonger? because I saw the code for it commented out but replaced by nothing :> |
| 01:44.46 | art3mis | okay enough os talk |
| 01:44.47 | Teshnor | He sucks at holding speeches :D |
| 01:44.48 | Gnarfoz_ | great :> |
| 01:44.49 | Amadeo | If I were that rich, I wouldn't even speak! |
| 01:44.52 | art3mis | lets get back to wowace stuff |
| 01:44.53 | art3mis | ;P |
| 01:44.58 | Teshnor | Amadeo: :D |
| 01:45.10 | art3mis | does periodic table 3.0 replace 2 and 1? |
| 01:45.11 | kagaro | gona swap over the translations to babble-herbs here in a few mins |
| 01:45.12 | Amadeo | Who needs to? My Vista unveiling would just be a big picture of the OS box, and me throwing money at the audience |
| 01:46.18 | ggilbert_ | Amadeo: People would probably enjoy that more. |
| 01:46.53 | Teshnor | art3mis: sure help me out with my coding ;) |
| 01:47.55 | sylvanaar | what is talismonger, and how did it get to version 3 already |
| 01:47.55 | Teshnor | I need to find out a way to track what weapon trigger a proc while dual-wielding two weapons with windfury :P |
| 01:48.08 | Amadeo | ggilbert: Hell, just to make it more interesting, I'd make Linus do it |
| 01:48.37 | ggilbert_ | As long as you do the money throwing thing, I'm cool with it. |
| 01:48.38 | Amadeo | and hire Steve Jobs to cry somewhere on stage |
| 01:49.42 | kagaro | syvlvannar: its a loot/node processing library, and its version 3 due to majore rewrites after i added it to trunk.. i didnt wana break those using the older version |
| 01:50.08 | sylvanaar | it breaks cartographer_herbalism |
| 01:50.26 | Teshnor | heh :P |
| 01:50.56 | kagaro | I just added in it 5 mins ago, how did it break ? |
| 01:51.11 | sylvanaar | did you update the toc? |
| 01:51.21 | kagaro | I thought I did, ill double check |
| 01:51.47 | kagaro | yeah I updated it |
| 01:53.05 | Amadeo | I wish xchat2 was updated more frequently |
| 01:53.35 | Teshnor | what you use that for? |
| 01:53.48 | Amadeo | It's at 2.6.8 while xchat.com is at 2.8.1b |
| 01:54.03 | Teshnor | oh, you mean the application :P |
| 01:54.05 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 01:54.15 | Teshnor | thought you were talking about addon :P |
| 01:54.47 | Amadeo | Apparently they saved 700k of memory in the new version |
| 01:54.57 | Teshnor | :P |
| 01:57.32 | Amadeo | I'm in Klient right now, but it's missing some neat features that I enjoy using in mIRC |
| 01:57.39 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r26778 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc Karazhan/Attumen.lua Karazhan/Karazhan.toc): BigWigs: Karazhan: add Attunemen mod |
| 01:58.42 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r26779 10Package_Cartographer/ (. Talismonger-3.0/ filelist.wau): Package_Cartographer: Adds the Talismonger-3.0 dependancy from the herbalism module |
| 01:59.28 | Funkeh` | fuckign always mispell that |
| 01:59.41 | Funkeh` | attumen |
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| 02:00.50 | Teshnor | I use mIRC with NoNameScript and irssi theme :P |
| 02:01.11 | Silviu- | Anyone know what is with new tailoring divided in 3? and i need to make it again from 0 to be an specialist ? |
| 02:02.00 | Amadeo | My favorite mIRC theme is Nexus |
| 02:02.37 | Trancer | mIRC theme :S |
| 02:02.41 | Trancer | Irssi 0.8.9 - http://irssi.org |
| 02:02.53 | Trancer | irssi theme for mIRC?! :S |
| 02:03.01 | kagaro | sylvannar: ill get all the kinks worked out tonight for you |
| 02:03.10 | Trancer | this world is doomed! |
| 02:03.13 | Teshnor | Trancer: yup :P |
| 02:03.32 | Amadeo | I don't IRC to be cool, so I just use what works for me :) |
| 02:03.39 | Trancer | http://www.trancer.nl/tmp/irssi.png |
| 02:03.53 | Trancer | I just need a 24/7 client, irssi on shell is the best solution for that ;) |
| 02:04.09 | Trancer | also for automation, mirc scripting is a bit.. scary/limited/annoying |
| 02:04.13 | Amadeo | You're seriously in 95 windows? |
| 02:04.28 | Trancer | hmm, 154 atm |
| 02:04.49 | Amadeo | why? :P |
| 02:05.07 | Trancer | eh.. am on 10 networks :o half of them are oper windows/channels |
| 02:05.18 | Trancer | other half are normal channels and some queries :) |
| 02:05.19 | Amadeo | haha |
| 02:05.26 | Amadeo | that's like a full time job |
| 02:05.34 | Trancer | alt - a does the magix ;) |
| 02:05.48 | Trancer | (hops to window with last activity/hilight) |
| 02:06.32 | Trancer | it probly looks like a chaos when you are new to it |
| 02:06.46 | Trancer | when you got used to it you never want different |
| 02:07.14 | Amadeo | I've used irssi, but if I had 154 windows open in any client, it would be chaos :P |
| 02:07.20 | Trancer | hehe |
| 02:07.38 | Trancer | at least I use one central message window |
| 02:07.38 | *** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 02:07.39 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 02:07.53 | Trancer | a friend doesn't, he got like 900 windows |
| 02:07.55 | Trancer | it's chaos |
| 02:08.06 | Amadeo | I have one window open, this one :D |
| 02:08.09 | Trancer | he removed the hardcoded 1024 window limit from irssi |
| 02:08.38 | Trancer | hmhm.. one window.. last time that happened was early '96 ;) |
| 02:08.50 | Amadeo | haha |
| 02:08.51 | Trancer | ah well, selective reading/replying :) |
| 02:09.26 | Teshnor | so what genre of music do you guys listen to? (not you Trancer :P) |
| 02:09.29 | Teshnor | http://fwc.asfett.com/screens/wowui.jpg :D |
| 02:09.37 | Trancer | I don't listen to Trance :( |
| 02:09.45 | SkorcherX | Teshnor: you runing WoW in Vista? |
| 02:09.51 | *** join/#wowace BankZ (i=BankZ@c-68-41-47-8.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 02:10.06 | BankZ | What Casting Bar replacement do you guys like? |
| 02:10.08 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26780 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2: fixed typo with blood thistle |
| 02:10.20 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg <-- so much sexier |
| 02:10.24 | Trancer | oCB |
| 02:10.26 | art3mis | ecastingbar |
| 02:10.34 | Trancer | or ecastingbar yeah |
| 02:10.41 | Trancer | full UI Teshnor |
| 02:10.43 | Teshnor | SkorcherX: Of course |
| 02:10.50 | BankZ | Why did they take oCB off wowace? |
| 02:10.54 | Teshnor | Trancer: Like it? :P |
| 02:10.59 | Trancer | jesus art3mis what resolution is that? |
| 02:11.05 | Trancer | Teshnor: my UI is very minimal :p |
| 02:11.08 | art3mis | 1640x1050 |
| 02:11.22 | art3mis | i love my widescreen |
| 02:11.29 | Daemona | 24'' ? |
| 02:11.35 | Trancer | old one: http://monastery.scarlet.nl/WoWScrnShot_011307_153332.jpg |
| 02:11.37 | Amadeo | damn Teshnor |
| 02:11.41 | Trancer | really old I might add.. hrmz |
| 02:11.42 | Amadeo | Is there any WoW in that UI? :) |
| 02:11.51 | Teshnor | Yeah, mine :D |
| 02:12.02 | art3mis | laugh |
| 02:12.54 | Amadeo | My name is Sylar!! |
| 02:12.59 | Amadeo | he's pissed guys |
| 02:13.15 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26781 10Cartographer_Herbalism/ (Cartographer_Herbalism.toc addon.lua libs/): Cartographer_Herbalism: converted lookups to use Babble-Herbs, updated .toc and externals |
| 02:13.20 | Trancer | Teshnor: http://crazy.mofo.nl/~trancer/WoWScrnShot_102506_022135.jpg |
| 02:13.28 | Trancer | that used to be my UI before mod breakage |
| 02:13.32 | kagaro | sylvannar: ok its all good, i exited, updated came back in and tested |
| 02:13.49 | Teshnor | WTF is up with all the priests?! |
| 02:13.50 | Trancer | need to make BT3 OnHostile swap so I can make that again |
| 02:13.56 | Teshnor | man, I got lvl60 priest as well ahha |
| 02:13.58 | Trancer | hey, it's my alt, no worries :P |
| 02:14.05 | kagaro | sylvannar: I also added a shell script to Cartographer for the lod stuff |
| 02:14.18 | Teshnor | not undead though ;) human |
| 02:14.20 | Daemona | wtf http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.31323#12500 |
| 02:14.22 | Trancer | my alt has better gear than my first main tho :( (warlock) |
| 02:14.25 | Trancer | eew. :p |
| 02:14.34 | Teshnor | with 7k mana and 5k hp :P |
| 02:14.39 | Trancer | hehe that's quite good |
| 02:14.41 | Trancer | on 60? |
| 02:14.45 | Teshnor | yar |
| 02:14.49 | Trancer | nice |
| 02:14.54 | Teshnor | epics ftw :P |
| 02:14.58 | Trancer | I am on 4.7k or so now |
| 02:15.06 | Trancer | hehe, didn't raid with that one, or well barely |
| 02:15.08 | Teshnor | 5.5k on that pic? |
| 02:15.11 | Trancer | did onyxia and such |
| 02:15.14 | Teshnor | or you mean hp |
| 02:15.21 | Trancer | hp |
| 02:15.25 | Teshnor | I'm shadow :P |
| 02:15.29 | Trancer | that pic is in my +heal gear and no buffsies |
| 02:15.29 | Teshnor | so don't do much raiding |
| 02:15.36 | Teshnor | mostly bgs ;) |
| 02:15.39 | Trancer | ah, I am healbot |
| 02:15.41 | Teshnor | hehe |
| 02:15.47 | Trancer | PvP healbot |
| 02:15.54 | Teshnor | I'm working on my Draenei Shammy now though |
| 02:15.54 | Trancer | got a warlock for raiding ;) |
| 02:15.59 | Teshnor | a bit stuck at lvl40 :P |
| 02:16.02 | Trancer | (got two locks ..) |
| 02:16.06 | Trancer | hehe |
| 02:16.06 | Teshnor | got my Elekk though :D |
| 02:16.11 | Teshnor | Purple Elekk |
| 02:16.14 | kagaro | how many of you use cartographer_mining? |
| 02:16.18 | Teshnor | I do |
| 02:16.41 | Teshnor | Cartographer's notes is screwed up for me :/ they dissapear now and then |
| 02:16.41 | Trancer | anyway napnap time |
| 02:16.47 | Trancer | 3 AM and studied for 14h today, borken |
| 02:16.48 | kagaro | would you be upset if the notes, went from saying say "Copper" to "Copper Vein" ? |
| 02:17.00 | Trancer | go copper vein |
| 02:17.01 | Teshnor | disappear... my english sucks :/ |
| 02:17.10 | Trancer | clarity |
| 02:17.15 | Teshnor | kangaro: Not really, that's more correct |
| 02:17.16 | kagaro | thats what I was thinking |
| 02:17.26 | Teshnor | A copper vein doesn't always contain copper :) |
| 02:17.33 | Teshnor | It might hold only stones and gems hehe |
| 02:17.41 | Trancer | and copper drops from boxes aswell |
| 02:17.47 | Teshnor | Yup |
| 02:18.10 | kagaro | well talismonger has TrackNode and TrackLoot methods, so those dont get confused |
| 02:18.31 | Trancer | yes, but for a node Copper Vein is more correct |
| 02:18.51 | kagaro | yeah, I agree gona convert cart mining next |
| 02:19.27 | art3mis | is there an addon that lets you move minimap icons ? |
| 02:19.35 | art3mis | like specifically ONLY minimap icons? |
| 02:19.37 | Teshnor | yeah |
| 02:20.10 | art3mis | or allows you a "dock bar" for them? |
| 02:20.29 | Teshnor | DetachedMiniButtons |
| 02:20.31 | Teshnor | for moving |
| 02:20.58 | art3mis | ooo |
| 02:21.05 | art3mis | ace or no? |
| 02:21.15 | Teshnor | no ace :/ |
| 02:21.18 | art3mis | k |
| 02:21.23 | art3mis | just so i know where to look ;P |
| 02:21.25 | Teshnor | but it works |
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| 02:22.54 | Teshnor | there's MiniMapButtonBag as well |
| 02:22.57 | Teshnor | but that's a bit buggy |
| 02:23.04 | Teshnor | but at least it hides the buttons ;) |
| 02:23.32 | Teshnor | and it uses AceLibrary |
| 02:28.20 | hugo | what is a good dps info addon, that count windfury attacks also, anyone know please ? |
| 02:29.07 | CIA-17 | 03benumbed * r26782 10Epeen/Epeen.toc: Epeen - Trying to get TOC to pull |
| 02:29.13 | Amadeo | er |
| 02:29.24 | Daemona | epeen |
| 02:29.28 | Daemona | wtf? |
| 02:29.28 | Amadeo | there's a level 68 2H Mace on the AH for 200g... top end damage is 420 |
| 02:29.52 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r26783 10Cartographer_Vendors/addon.lua: |
| 02:29.52 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Vendors : |
| 02:29.52 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:30.02 | Amadeo | http://www.thottbot.com/?i=58997 |
| 02:30.04 | Amadeo | that's it |
| 02:30.54 | Amadeo | that's pretty crazy for level 68 |
| 02:31.31 | Teshnor | hugo: try Recap |
| 02:31.44 | Teshnor | hugo: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/5467/recap-hawksy/ |
| 02:32.25 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r26784 10Cartographer_Trainers/addon.lua: |
| 02:32.25 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Trainers : |
| 02:32.25 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:33.24 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r26785 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: |
| 02:33.24 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Treasure : |
| 02:33.24 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:33.42 | Teshnor | hugo: If you wanna track windfury procs you could always tryout WindFuryFu, addon for FuBar ;) |
| 02:34.15 | Daemona | or just procwatch |
| 02:34.39 | CIA-17 | 03sutorix * r26786 10FishingAce/ (FishingAce.lua FishingAce.toc): FishingAce: Fix setting toggles, revamp event handling, update toc. |
| 02:34.49 | Nomad_Wanderer | can anyone tell me more detail about the click2cast addon? I've tried the forums over the past few days, but no answer. |
| 02:35.42 | vhaarr | Maybe if you had a specific question, yeah, but I'm not going to write you a book. |
| 02:35.45 | Nomad_Wanderer | Click2cast has a "keyboard" bind option, I read this to mean that any key can be used as a modifier, not just shift/alt/ctrl... 1st off, is that correct? |
| 02:36.00 | vhaarr | no |
| 02:36.15 | vhaarr | It means you can bind something to 'a', and when you hover a unit frame, clicking 'a' will execute that action. |
| 02:36.46 | Nomad_Wanderer | Without a glowy hand? |
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| 02:39.41 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r26787 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: |
| 02:39.41 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Mining : |
| 02:39.41 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:39.43 | Nomad_Wanderer | How does one set that up? I've got a spell set, and even a key set in the options, but when I hover over someone in grid, and press the key, it gives me the glowy hand |
| 02:40.48 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r26788 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: |
| 02:40.48 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Herbalism : |
| 02:40.48 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:41.27 | Nomad_Wanderer | Strange. It seems to be bound to the release of the key.. not the mouse click |
| 02:43.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | Is anyone using this feature? |
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| 02:48.14 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r26789 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: |
| 02:48.14 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests : |
| 02:48.15 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:52.20 | Nomad_Wanderer | nvm, it comes with the left mouse button bound. you need to unbind the left mouse button to enable keyboard clisk |
| 02:52.54 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26790 10nQuestLog/ (5 files in 2 dirs): nQuestLog : Adding details frame, and fixing goto quests again |
| 02:54.32 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r26791 10BigWigs/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:54.32 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Karazhan: |
| 02:54.32 | CIA-17 | - add Maiden mod |
| 02:54.32 | CIA-17 | - minor changes |
| 02:59.11 | Mikma | neat, Cart and nQuest love |
| 02:59.46 | Kemayo | Mikma: Don't you be cheating on me now. :-P |
| 02:59.49 | Birdemani[FH] | quest fu error: line 415, attempt to perform atithmetic on local i |
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| 03:00.04 | Mikma | Kemayo: oh yes i will, i found another lover :D |
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| 03:00.09 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26792 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2: migrated some cart mining translations to this module |
| 03:00.24 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26793 10Cartographer_Mining/ (Cartographer_Mining.toc addon.lua libs/): Cartographer_Mining: converted lookups to use Babble-Ore, updated .toc and externals and converted to Talismonger |
| 03:00.30 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric|hom1 (n=Jason@76.214.137.170) |
| 03:00.37 | Kemayo | ~lart Mikma |
| 03:00.41 | kagaro | ill do fishing tommarrow me thinks |
| 03:02.34 | KarlThePagan | hey Cartographer comitters! is anyone working on cross-zone waypoints? |
| 03:02.57 | KarlThePagan | I have it ready (seems stable, about to test in actual outlands) |
| 03:03.12 | KarlThePagan | kagaro, ckknight, kergoth anyone? |
| 03:03.20 | kagaro | yo |
| 03:03.29 | kagaro | not me |
| 03:03.38 | kagaro | im working on converting the gather modules to talismonger |
| 03:03.42 | KarlThePagan | kk |
| 03:04.01 | KarlThePagan | I fixed up /tway and /way to accept z- argument again |
| 03:04.13 | KarlThePagan | no z- means current zone, z-all is everywhere |
| 03:04.33 | KarlThePagan | otherwises case-insensitive search string and it will complain if there are multiple matches |
| 03:04.40 | _neuron_ | is there any way to set a temporary waypoint, that'll be auto deleted? |
| 03:04.46 | KarlThePagan | _neuron_, /tway |
| 03:04.50 | _neuron_ | thanks :) |
| 03:04.52 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 03:05.10 | KarlThePagan | waypoints are about to get another big dose of sexy _neuron_ you wanna help test it? |
| 03:05.20 | _neuron_ | KarlThePagan, not at 4am in the morning :P |
| 03:05.22 | kagaro | yeah |
| 03:05.24 | KarlThePagan | haha |
| 03:05.55 | _neuron_ | just leveled a bit with a friend of mine, and just had to finish porting kemayo's quest details frame to nQuestLog and commit that :p |
| 03:06.00 | _neuron_ | so it's getting a bit late, again :P |
| 03:06.01 | kagaro | KarlThePagan: just give me some example on doing a multizone way point and ill test it |
| 03:06.12 | kagaro | err cross zone |
| 03:06.36 | KarlThePagan | dol /tway herb z-all or /tway mine z-all |
| 03:06.42 | KarlThePagan | that will be a very very data intensive search |
| 03:07.00 | _neuron_ | that sound very promising :P |
| 03:07.15 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r26794 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: |
| 03:07.15 | CIA-17 | Quixote: |
| 03:07.15 | CIA-17 | -tonumber for IterateQuestsForMob returns |
| 03:07.16 | CIA-17 | -better example comment for same |
| 03:07.22 | KarlThePagan | also "/tway flight z-hellfire" when you're in blasted lands |
| 03:07.26 | kergoth | KarlThePagan, heh, i need to get a flying mount so i can really test it out :) |
| 03:07.38 | KarlThePagan | the arrow should be hidden, but then it should appear when you get in outlands |
| 03:07.49 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r26795 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Account for Quixote change. Again. |
| 03:07.49 | kagaro | kergoth: herbs and mining converted to talismonger finally |
| 03:07.51 | KarlThePagan | kergoth, you can do it on a flightpath ;) |
| 03:07.56 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:07.58 | KarlThePagan | that's my plan |
| 03:07.58 | kergoth | kagaro, nice |
| 03:08.00 | KarlThePagan | i'm only 68 |
| 03:08.14 | kagaro | I switched all the translations to use stuff in babble-ore and herbs |
| 03:08.33 | KarlThePagan | really any combination of z- /way /tway and such |
| 03:08.50 | kagaro | kergoth: ill most likely tommarrow do a little conversion to change the note icons from just say "Copper" to say "Copper Vein" |
| 03:08.57 | KarlThePagan | waypoints should persist across instances and zones and hide/show themselves when you come back into navigable space |
| 03:09.03 | KarlThePagan | but... let me check it in ;) |
| 03:09.56 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r26796 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Oh, and return values in the correct order from mobIter. |
| 03:11.02 | hugo | thanks Teshnor ;] |
| 03:12.56 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26797 10nQuestLog/events.lua: nQuestLog : Dry copied&pasted OnMouseOverUnit based on Kemayo's api changes |
| 03:13.08 | kergoth | am i missing something, or does sieve still require periodictable 2.0 while baggins uses 3.0, and baggins doesnt have a -2.0 external anymore? |
| 03:13.36 | _neuron_ | now I'm walking the dog :P (and good idea changing that Kemayo, it occured to me earlier today while questing ;) |
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| 03:16.16 | vhaarr | kergoth: Err, my bad. |
| 03:16.30 | kergoth | :P |
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| 03:18.39 | Amadeo | most people use ClosetGnome these days? |
| 03:20.46 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@74.62.251.185) |
| 03:20.47 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 03:21.23 | ckknight | hey all |
| 03:23.19 | Kemayo | vhaarr: ClosetGnome makes it really hard to modify a dual-weild set. It keeps forcing any weapon I drop onto my off-hand into my main-hand slot. |
| 03:23.45 | vhaarr | Kemayo: oh |
| 03:24.16 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 03:24.26 | Amadeo | sup ck |
| 03:24.27 | JoshBorke | guild-mate is having a problem with fubar where things can be moved anywhere on the screen |
| 03:24.49 | kagaro | hmm wonder why my toc data inst showing up on the wiki InfoBix |
| 03:25.08 | JoshBorke | she doesn't know how she did it, but she keeps getting Fubar_panel errors |
| 03:25.52 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26798 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Make sure to pass all variables down the onevent handlers in the paper doll frame. |
| 03:25.57 | vhaarr | Kemayo: Maybe that helps? |
| 03:26.01 | vhaarr | I have no idea. |
| 03:26.16 | Daemona | JoshBorke want an easy approach to fixing it? |
| 03:26.45 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, I've put a few hours into making waypoints & FindNote work with cross-zone waypoints/notes |
| 03:26.47 | JoshBorke | sure |
| 03:26.54 | Daemona | tell her to logout of wow, go to the wtf folder and remove any fu*.lua |
| 03:26.55 | ckknight | okay |
| 03:27.05 | KarlThePagan | about done, finind a few stray nil's |
| 03:28.25 | kagaro | who knows the wiki code on the site well ? |
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| 03:29.02 | Tricksta_ | Evening |
| 03:29.23 | Xuerian | kagaro: Go to the wiki's site (mediawiki), it has a composition guide |
| 03:29.37 | kagaro | for whatever reason its not picking up my toc data |
| 03:29.45 | Xuerian | kagaro: Oh. Nevermind me. >_> |
| 03:29.49 | Tricksta_ | I am so confused on trying to find a good Moveable Frame and Resize Frame Addon ....kinda like BIB used to do. Anyone have a suggestion? |
| 03:30.03 | Xuerian | Tricksta_: Visor2 |
| 03:30.14 | Tricksta_ | Ok |
| 03:30.24 | Tricksta_ | If I recall last time I tried it is very complex |
| 03:30.34 | kagaro | i wonder if its becuase of the sub directory i moved the .lua to |
| 03:30.39 | Tricksta_ | Thanks I will try it |
| 03:31.01 | Xuerian | Tricksta_: It's a little complicated, but not when you get used to it. If it's too complicated for you, Try moveAnything, or even DiscordFrameModifier |
| 03:31.33 | Tricksta_ | Do all of these addons resize and move frames? X? |
| 03:31.54 | Xuerian | Yes |
| 03:32.10 | Tricksta_ | Thanks, but Visor 2 is the best huh? I can learn it I guess |
| 03:32.20 | Xuerian | Visor2 is the lightest, afaik. |
| 03:32.33 | Tricksta_ | Ok much thanks that helps alot |
| 03:34.58 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r26799 10oRA2/Optional/Group.lua: |
| 03:34.58 | CIA-17 | oRA2 : |
| 03:34.59 | CIA-17 | - Optional/Group.lua |
| 03:34.59 | CIA-17 | - Add locale koKR |
| 03:35.22 | JoshBorke | FuBar\FuBar_Panel.lua:674: wrong number of arguments to 'insert' |
| 03:35.55 | Birdemani[FH] | no more pink circles on the minimap anymore? |
| 03:36.19 | Birdemani[FH] | no? |
| 03:37.46 | xlvii | Scryer's or Aldor? I'm a Rogue. |
| 03:38.04 | xlvii | With Alchemy ;p |
| 03:38.19 | Birdemani[FH] | so, the pink circles are gone with cart or is my stuff borked? |
| 03:38.28 | ckknight | ugh |
| 03:38.33 | ckknight | who broke the porn circles? |
| 03:38.38 | ckknight | KarlThePagan? |
| 03:38.47 | KarlThePagan | porn circles O.o |
| 03:39.20 | KarlThePagan | I haven't comitted my big crap yet |
| 03:39.36 | KarlThePagan | oh and porn circles work for me |
| 03:40.34 | KarlThePagan | Birdemani[FH], make sure you're tracking the element you're looking at the icon for - that was when I thought it was broken too :) |
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| 03:41.02 | Birdemani[FH] | it used to be on quest givers |
| 03:41.04 | Birdemani[FH] | as well |
| 03:41.11 | Birdemani[FH] | shit, its back |
| 03:41.14 | JoshBorke | did you disable those mods? |
| 03:41.15 | Birdemani[FH] | reloaded my ui |
| 03:41.37 | vhaarr | kergoth: almost got a fix, hang on, this sieve thing was insane. |
| 03:42.33 | kergoth | hehe, what is it anyway? |
| 03:42.42 | vhaarr | piece of crap |
| 03:43.18 | vhaarr | Seems like the author wanted to separate some large chunks of code from his main addon file, so he threw it into another lua file and called it a library. |
| 03:43.29 | vhaarr | It has nothing to do with a library at all, it's very specific. |
| 03:45.05 | KarlThePagan | Birdemani[FH], i'll keep a watch out for that |
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| 03:49.55 | PogoTribal | xlvii |
| 03:50.14 | ckknight | what talent tree do people recommend for a shaman for leveling? |
| 03:50.21 | KarlThePagan | enhancement |
| 03:50.24 | Gngsk | en |
| 03:50.34 | PogoTribal | xlvii you still here? |
| 03:50.35 | KarlThePagan | you're a melee class who just heals/casts when you need it |
| 03:50.39 | Benumbed | think toc data being pulled is broke |
| 03:50.41 | KarlThePagan | major regen etc... steady grind |
| 03:50.58 | chutwig | it's all about enhancement |
| 03:51.03 | chutwig | shamanistic rage is also a godsend |
| 03:51.18 | chutwig | procs constantly and with windfury up you can refill a substantial amount of mana |
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| 03:51.26 | PogoTribal | Restoration is obviously the best tree for leveling. |
| 03:51.40 | Gngsk | sarcasm ftl |
| 03:51.41 | chutwig | it's actually better than enhancement |
| 03:51.51 | chutwig | just use earth shield constantly |
| 03:52.17 | PogoTribal | I don't think I've ever even seen a Shaman tree. |
| 03:52.44 | KarlThePagan | ok I'm satisfied... ckknight, _neuron_ - waypoints incoming |
| 03:53.16 | chutwig | elemental is casting, enhancement is melee damage, restoration is self-evident |
| 03:53.26 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26800 10Baggins/ (Baggins.lua Baggins.toc libs/ libs/Sieve-0.1/Sieve-0.1.lua): Baggins: Think I've fixed this Sieve thing to use PT3 as well. Yes, *thing*, it's not a library, that's for sure. |
| 03:53.35 | vhaarr | kergoth: Try it now, please. |
| 03:53.41 | kenlyric|hom1 | I've also heard enhancement is best. But why do the tier 1 talents suck such donkey balls? |
| 03:53.55 | chutwig | in enhancement? |
| 03:54.00 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan * r26801 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:54.00 | CIA-17 | Cartographer: |
| 03:54.00 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.00 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.01 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.02 | kenlyric|hom1 | yeah. |
| 03:54.08 | chutwig | everyone always takes +5% mana |
| 03:54.09 | kenlyric|hom1 | 5 points for 5% mana? yuck. |
| 03:54.09 | chutwig | without fail |
| 03:54.16 | KarlThePagan | thanks for those awesome Tourist functions ckknight |
| 03:54.17 | chutwig | yeah, it sucks |
| 03:54.18 | chutwig | what can you do |
| 03:54.19 | kenlyric|hom1 | right, it still sucks as a talent :) |
| 03:54.38 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: :-) |
| 03:54.46 | PogoTribal | Ancestral Knowledge is obviously the way to go. |
| 03:55.53 | ckknight | so if I go enhancement, what attributes should I focus on? Str, Agi? |
| 03:56.32 | chutwig | str/sta/agl |
| 03:56.48 | chutwig | ideally flurry will be up most of the time |
| 03:57.32 | PogoTribal | Yeah, ideally I'd have 329408230942 mana and 38490238402 health with +239482903 spell damage. |
| 03:58.29 | hugo | agi and str is scaled at 70 |
| 03:58.36 | kenlyric|hom1 | your sw:p dot kill All mobs in azeroth. |
| 03:58.39 | hugo | atack power and critical strike is better |
| 03:58.47 | hugo | then atributes ;o |
| 03:59.21 | hugo | ckknight attack power is the way :D |
| 03:59.56 | Eej | no way man go for agi |
| 04:00.06 | hugo | lol |
| 04:00.28 | kenlyric|hom1 | when levelling, killing things faster is > dying slower :) |
| 04:00.30 | Eej | imo grind enhancement to 70 then get real gear ;) |
| 04:00.53 | hugo | always favor attack power as dualwield shaman |
| 04:01.04 | hugo | and critical strike XX over agi |
| 04:01.10 | Ordog | we just pulled a lvl 58 to 59 in outland, pretty freakin fast |
| 04:01.39 | hugo | i got now 1000ap unbuffed out of wifght, in fight around 1800 |
| 04:01.49 | ckknight | so AR, Crit, Agi, Str? |
| 04:01.54 | hugo | and with my macro on, trinket+blood fury+shaman rage 2300 |
| 04:02.04 | hugo | and that makes my mana go back full |
| 04:02.08 | hugo | so you farm nonstop |
| 04:02.11 | hugo | :D |
| 04:02.12 | PogoTribal | How do stats affect shaman AP? |
| 04:02.22 | Ordog | str as usual |
| 04:02.28 | PogoTribal | That might be good to know before you tell him all this. |
| 04:02.34 | hugo | str is ap, but at lvl 70 it scales and 1str no longer gives 2ap |
| 04:02.36 | hugo | so ap is better |
| 04:02.42 | hugo | same with agi and critical strike XX |
| 04:03.08 | hugo | so if item has 20str and another 40ap, at lvl 70, 40ap is better |
| 04:03.13 | Ordog | i felt so strange replacing skyfury helm with a green drop -.- |
| 04:03.29 | PogoTribal | Why would they nerf the hell out of the equation at level 70? |
| 04:03.39 | hugo | its scale.. |
| 04:03.48 | chutwig | they don't change the equation |
| 04:03.49 | hugo | also your critical chance is nerfed too as you lvl to 70 |
| 04:03.55 | hugo | both melee and spell critical |
| 04:04.06 | hugo | i.e lvl 60 need like 14critical for 1% |
| 04:04.07 | Ordog | if they didnt do that you would one hit any <lvl65 ? ^^ |
| 04:04.09 | hugo | lvl 70 need 20 |
| 04:04.10 | chutwig | that has always happened |
| 04:04.15 | hugo | so as you level, you crit chance lowers |
| 04:04.26 | hugo | yeah Ordog |
| 04:05.04 | hugo | im sad topscorefu dont count windfury, i want know my record ;d |
| 04:05.14 | Ordog | get damn windfury |
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| 04:05.28 | PogoTribal | ok, before you guys rub one off with all the knowledge you have that I already know, I'm talking about how 1Str = 1AP, and you're saying that at level 70 1Str!=1AP |
| 04:05.37 | Ordog | and alter topscorefu to catch that result instead ;P |
| 04:05.54 | hugo | dw is crazy i was in first 25raid today, gruuls lair, and i was always top in threat meter, so i could go max dps anyway |
| 04:06.11 | chutwig | PogoTribal: that doesn't change |
| 04:06.13 | PogoTribal | 1Str=1AP for rogues, for example. At level 70, that doesn't change. |
| 04:06.24 | hugo | its diff for class |
| 04:06.27 | chutwig | but the game does require more agility/crit rating/whatever to maintain the same crit percentage as you scale in level |
| 04:06.32 | ckknight | I only care about leveling, I don't care about your lvl 70 statistics. |
| 04:06.37 | PogoTribal | <hugo> str is ap, but at lvl 70 it scales and 1str no longer gives 2ap |
| 04:06.40 | vhaarr | PogoTribal: 1 STR = 1 AP, but the AP -> DPS conversion might be different at 70. |
| 04:06.40 | ckknight | once I hit lvl 70, I'll worry about it. |
| 04:06.42 | hugo | for 60shaman 1str is 2ap |
| 04:06.52 | hugo | i talk about shaman |
| 04:06.56 | Ordog | ckk get some 70s guy to pull you through HC and Coilfang |
| 04:06.57 | hugo | i dunno others ;P |
| 04:07.03 | Ordog | thats the fastest way ;P |
| 04:07.09 | ckknight | My shaman is lvl 12. |
| 04:07.10 | vhaarr | Ordog: At level 20? |
| 04:07.13 | vhaarr | right :P |
| 04:07.23 | PogoTribal | Yes I know, you need more AP at level 70 to do the same damage relatively that you did at level 60. |
| 04:07.30 | Ordog | uhm ok get some lvl 50 guy to pull you through HDW ^^ |
| 04:08.13 | Ordog | razorfen ... |
| 04:08.26 | Ordog | entry at? |
| 04:08.28 | chutwig | i love my draenei mage |
| 04:08.51 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26802 10oRA2/Optional/Group.lua: oRA2: Optional/Group: Fix koKR. |
| 04:08.55 | Ordog | i just slapped a lvl 60 paladin bloodelf |
| 04:09.00 | PogoTribal | http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=116&Set=64 |
| 04:10.08 | PogoTribal | You slapped him? |
| 04:10.09 | Ordog | ;P |
| 04:10.20 | PogoTribal | On my server that would get you killed. |
| 04:10.38 | Ordog | well im orc shaman -.- |
| 04:10.48 | PogoTribal | On a PvE server. |
| 04:11.01 | Ordog | lol no |
| 04:11.08 | Ordog | that would be cruel |
| 04:11.19 | Ordog | no more ganking would take all the fun out of the game |
| 04:11.24 | hugo | hmm fubar windfury fu says error missing library ? ;x |
| 04:11.25 | PogoTribal | And he just stood there? |
| 04:11.50 | Ordog | he = horde me = horde ? |
| 04:11.59 | PogoTribal | Errr durr durr |
| 04:12.29 | Ordog | he = lvl 60 me = lvl 66 ? duel would've been pretty unfair :) |
| 04:12.36 | Ordog | so he just pointed at me |
| 04:12.42 | Ordog | and wandered along ... |
| 04:13.02 | Ordog | i dont hear you say "fascinating story indeed!" |
| 04:13.04 | CIA-17 | 03mok * r26803 10GemList/ (GemList.lua localization.lua): |
| 04:13.04 | CIA-17 | GemList: |
| 04:13.04 | CIA-17 | - variable number of help-lines |
| 04:13.04 | CIA-17 | - case insensitive keyword |
| 04:13.15 | Ordog | but i know thats what you are thinking |
| 04:13.27 | PogoTribal | Yeah I'm not sure I get it. |
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| 04:13.38 | Ordog | http://www.shnytzel.de/TrustedComputing_LAFKON_HIGH.mov |
| 04:14.33 | KarlThePagan | happy vista day! |
| 04:14.35 | KarlThePagan | kek |
| 04:15.00 | KarlThePagan | I'm reminded every time I have to give WAU administrative rights to update my addons |
| 04:15.00 | Ordog | or better http://www.lafkon.net/tc/ thats my goodnight gift for you (if you dont already know it -.-) gn8 |
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| 04:15.48 | Ordog | then that video is perfectly fit for you KarlThePagan ;P |
| 04:15.59 | gix- | was the GMail-addon renamed? |
| 04:16.01 | KarlThePagan | Ordog, saw it last year ;) |
| 04:16.12 | KarlThePagan | that's why I said "happy vista day!" |
| 04:16.13 | Ordog | watch it again, now that you are part of the story ^^ |
| 04:16.27 | KarlThePagan | T.T |
| 04:16.34 | Ordog | oh ... OH and i didnt got it |
| 04:16.47 | Ordog | you see i really must head off to listen to the pillow |
| 04:17.10 | Ordog | my grammar skills drop below the carpet anyway |
| 04:17.19 | Ordog | gn8 :) |
| 04:18.40 | chutwig | unter den teppich? |
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| 04:20.47 | kenlyric|hom1 | egads, so many totems... |
| 04:21.00 | chutwig | gotta drop 'em all |
| 04:21.06 | chutwig | good thing all the useful or good ones are air totems |
| 04:22.14 | gix- | hm. when i update my ace-libraries like all my ace2-addons stop to function. was there something bc-breaking changed? |
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| 04:22.44 | kenlyric|hom1 | fire seems to burninate |
| 04:23.29 | kenlyric|hom1 | guess I might want a mod for these. |
| 04:23.43 | chutwig | totem timer mods do have their uses |
| 04:23.44 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26804 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism: Was just readin the lua to see what this Talismonger thing is, and couldn't resist modifying the file. |
| 04:23.48 | chutwig | chronometer doesn't track them? |
| 04:24.30 | kenlyric|hom1 | no, no it doesn't. |
| 04:24.38 | kenlyric|hom1 | or, it does. |
| 04:25.25 | chutwig | chronometer needs a few bugfixes for dealing with paladin timers but it's pretty solid |
| 04:30.08 | ckknight | gix-: make sure to update everything, I say |
| 04:31.52 | gix- | well, yes. but i was curious what changed. for example my small gc-info-bar doesn't work anymore. after manually calling :OnEnable() it seems to work. |
| 04:33.50 | vhaarr | Hm, Baggins is actually quite cool. |
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| 04:34.58 | PogoTribal | Looks like copying my Priest's UI to my rogue will take me 3 hours. |
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| 04:35.07 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan * r26805 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: |
| 04:35.07 | CIA-17 | Cartographer: |
| 04:35.07 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:35.13 | KarlThePagan | ~pat CIA-17 |
| 04:35.14 | purl | ACTION pats CIA-17 and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 04:35.23 | KarlThePagan | cia is pretty fast lately |
| 04:35.28 | PogoTribal | You guys need to beat the shit out of any coder that doesn't incorporate profiles. |
| 04:35.56 | KarlThePagan | which mod PogoTribal ? |
| 04:36.41 | chutwig | ess cee tee |
| 04:37.19 | PogoTribal | Skinner, RicoMiniMap |
| 04:37.37 | PogoTribal | SWStats could use an asswhooping too but that's not Ace2 |
| 04:38.03 | chutwig | is anyone working on or planning to work on a replacement for sw_stats? |
| 04:38.15 | PogoTribal | I want to copy it exactly like it is from my priest, can I do that by copying over SavedVariables? |
| 04:38.38 | kenlyric|hom1 | PogoTribal: SCT |
| 04:38.59 | PogoTribal | Scrolling Combat Text has profiles. |
| 04:39.07 | kenlyric|hom1 | it doesn't have the most important one. |
| 04:39.10 | chutwig | no default profile |
| 04:39.13 | chutwig | which drives me insaaaaaaaaaaaaaane |
| 04:39.23 | kenlyric|hom1 | monkeybrains! |
| 04:39.34 | chutwig | it also has a habit of creating two identical profiles, one named "Charactername - Realm" and the other named "Charactername of Realm" |
| 04:40.01 | kenlyric|hom1 | chutwig, it only did that when the profile names changed. |
| 04:40.11 | chutwig | kenlyric|hom1: i deleted all the old ones and it made them again |
| 04:40.22 | PogoTribal | So can I copy my SavedVariables? |
| 04:40.23 | kenlyric|hom1 | chutwig, you must have a monkeybrains version. |
| 04:40.43 | chutwig | it was just updated from svn today as far as i know :( |
| 04:41.09 | kenlyric|hom1 | very odd |
| 04:41.15 | PogoTribal | Honestly this will take me forever. |
| 04:41.21 | PogoTribal | Fuck it, I'll just try a straight copy |
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| 04:42.48 | break19 | yuck - kcitems spamming bugs.. this one 91 times: http://ace.pastey.net/5782 |
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| 04:43.05 | ckknight | chutwig: the of one is deprecated. |
| 04:43.27 | Birdemani[FH] | questfu is tossing an error when you mouse over quest items |
| 04:44.02 | kenlyric|hom1 | Birdemani[FH]: Yes, yes it is. |
| 04:44.43 | break19 | bug reproduction: enable use money frames on the tooltip module.. turn it on, it starts spamming the error.. turn it off.. its fine |
| 04:45.12 | break19 | oh, and SAL needs to updated to include Talismonger if it hasnt yet been |
| 04:52.19 | Kemayo | Birdemani[FH]: Not for me. Paste your error. |
| 04:59.05 | ckknight | so I never got a definite answer on what stats to emphasize for my shaman items |
| 05:00.22 | Antiarc | I'd assume str/agi if you're enhancement, int/spelldamage if you're elemental |
| 05:00.26 | Silviu- | +healing and make it a healer, so u "heal" mobs ^^ |
| 05:00.27 | Antiarc | But that's just an assumption |
| 05:05.07 | kergoth | hrm |
| 05:05.12 | kergoth | who works on baggins? |
| 05:07.40 | PogoTribal | Hey you guy sknow what to do if the AddOns button doesn't show up at character select? |
| 05:07.47 | PogoTribal | A guildie of mine is having this problem. |
| 05:07.58 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, "Twisting Nether" is a new zone for you for Tourist... I'm afraid you'll need the help of someone with a flying mount to get it's offsets & such |
| 05:08.02 | vhaarr | he is blind, then. |
| 05:08.20 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: does it not show the map of Outland? |
| 05:08.21 | Antiarc | PogoTribal: It doesn't show if he has no addons installed. |
| 05:08.43 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, it does I think |
| 05:08.52 | ckknight | then no problem |
| 05:08.56 | KarlThePagan | ah ok cool |
| 05:08.57 | PogoTribal | So he needs adds in INterface folder before itshows up? |
| 05:09.07 | PogoTribal | I'll tell him that, thanks. |
| 05:09.13 | KarlThePagan | that's needed for guys flying in the spaces between zones in outland |
| 05:09.22 | KarlThePagan | flightpaths hit it briefly too O.o |
| 05:09.33 | ckknight | where is it used? |
| 05:10.06 | arJUna|afk | adexit |
| 05:10.11 | arJUna|afk | er |
| 05:10.13 | arJUna|afk | night =) |
| 05:10.34 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, I use it in Carto's distance function and Tourist's transpose function |
| 05:10.42 | KarlThePagan | (same thing I'm assuming) |
| 05:12.23 | ckknight | hrm, GetRealZoneText() shouldn't really be used... |
| 05:12.45 | KarlThePagan | ah |
| 05:13.12 | KarlThePagan | perhaps there's a simpler way to get your offset for waypoints eh? |
| 05:13.23 | KarlThePagan | or ... what are you thinking of for an alternative? |
| 05:13.51 | PogoTribal | Whew, ok copying SavedVariables seems to have done it |
| 05:13.58 | ckknight | well, you should use Cartographer:GetCurrentPlayerPosition() |
| 05:14.01 | ckknight | which returns x, y, zone |
| 05:14.17 | kergoth | god i hate switching profs |
| 05:14.22 | kergoth | leveling skinning in mulgore on my 63 rogue |
| 05:14.38 | ckknight | hehe |
| 05:15.07 | KarlThePagan | i'll try that ckknight but I've noticed that that function reports what map the player is looking at in carto as well |
| 05:15.10 | chutwig | i dropped engineering this morning |
| 05:15.13 | PogoTribal | Although Bananabar is still a bitch. |
| 05:15.16 | chutwig | got to 300 herbalism in about 5 hours or so |
| 05:15.17 | KarlThePagan | rather than always giving the actual player location |
| 05:15.42 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: that shouldn't be the case. |
| 05:15.45 | PogoTribal | And Skinner saves its settings in the root WTF SavedVariables |
| 05:15.54 | KarlThePagan | for example in the current head of tree set a waypoint then go look at an adjacent zone (so your cursor doesn't show on the map) - your waypoint will stop updating its distance |
| 05:16.05 | ckknight | yea, it's not. |
| 05:16.16 | ckknight | right, that's impossible to stop. |
| 05:16.19 | KarlThePagan | ok i'll switch that to use CurrentPlayerPosition |
| 05:17.12 | kergoth | chutwig, nice. i was eng/herb, just switched to skinning/herbalism.. figured i could always use leather for moneys and my lw alt |
| 05:17.45 | chutwig | kergoth: i think we can both agree that engineering blows |
| 05:18.08 | kergoth | i used cables occasionally and the teleporter occasionally and that was about it |
| 05:18.12 | kergoth | waste of a prof slot |
| 05:18.12 | chutwig | yeah |
| 05:18.16 | chutwig | grenades, teleporter, nothing else |
| 05:18.16 | Gnarfoz_ | i killed my 315 gnome eng for herbalism for BC and pulled up my 60 enchanting (From the days of pre-2.0 disenchating) to 300... that was expensive :< |
| 05:18.26 | chutwig | and i got bugged by hunters to make them scopes |
| 05:18.48 | kergoth | woot, thats better |
| 05:18.58 | kergoth | made a baggins bag with sections for backpack, bag1, bag2, bag3, bag4, and keyring |
| 05:19.15 | kergoth | so i can at least move shit out of physical bags to unequip a bag without using the crappy blizzard interface :P |
| 05:19.22 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r26806 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFuLocale-enUS.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu - add left/right to the highlighted directions |
| 05:19.37 | NightHawkTheSane | lol kergoth |
| 05:21.37 | chutwig | this game has the most bizarre random number generator |
| 05:22.29 | ckknight | how so? |
| 05:23.04 | chutwig | i guess in a mathematical sense it's still technically random if you kill 20 mobs and not one quest item drops |
| 05:23.25 | chutwig | i told myself "i will go to sleep once i finish this quest and ding" |
| 05:23.31 | chutwig | 25 dead young wetlands crocolisks later |
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| 05:24.13 | gix- | heh, after updating dozens of addons have a minimap button now. is there an addon that puts those buttons in some dropdown list or something? there's kind of no space left there anymore around the minimap |
| 05:24.20 | chutwig | it's a level 22 quest that only requires 4 drops |
| 05:24.26 | chutwig | and there is the last drop, which i get as i ding from killing the mob |
| 05:24.28 | chutwig | naturally |
| 05:27.12 | break19 | heh |
| 05:28.12 | break19 | anyone know if kael is still messin with kci, or is pretty much dead in the water? |
| 05:28.26 | Xuerian | gix-: Get FuBar for all the ace addons, or ButtonHole (i think) for others |
| 05:40.37 | Kemayo | break19: Haven't seen him do anything with it recently. |
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| 05:42.57 | break19 | Kemayo: actually.. I was more interested in the KCI2 he has mentioned a few times. |
| 05:44.20 | FryGuy | hmm |
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| 05:53.12 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r26807 10oRA2/Optional/Group.lua: oRA2 : Updated localization koKR |
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| 05:59.50 | FryGuy | my friend is such a hacker |
| 05:59.52 | FryGuy | http://www.burntpopcorn.net/images/wow/WoWScrnShot_012307_172948.jpg |
| 06:03.11 | NightHawkTheSane | FryGuy: o_0 |
| 06:03.49 | vhaarr | FryGuy: Hunter? |
| 06:03.59 | FryGuy | yes? |
| 06:04.03 | vhaarr | I bet he's beast mastery spec. |
| 06:04.12 | FryGuy | heh why |
| 06:04.21 | vhaarr | It seems to be a bug with the pet link ability. |
| 06:04.23 | FryGuy | he doesn't get dismounted when he zones |
| 06:04.29 | FryGuy | that's the 70 mount |
| 06:04.31 | vhaarr | exactly |
| 06:04.33 | vhaarr | I know. |
| 06:04.36 | vhaarr | It seems to be a bug with the pet link ability. |
| 06:04.47 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r26808 10ACP/localization.lua: ACP: Added koKR Translation |
| 06:04.51 | PogoTribal | Ace2 keeps trying to call shapeshift buttons or some stupid shit every time I'm in combat |
| 06:04.57 | PogoTribal | it's flooding my bugsack |
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| 06:05.25 | kergoth | you'll have to try to track down exactly which addon did it.. good luck :P |
| 06:06.19 | FryGuy | spirit bond you mean? |
| 06:06.30 | vhaarr | yeah, spirit bond |
| 06:06.58 | Arjor | guys i have a small problem. When i try to use the TOTT feature both in ORA2 and Aguf. Now when my target is targeting a hostile and i click their target my Alchemy window pops up for some reason. Now this working fine when the TOTT is friendly. any ideas guys ? |
| 06:07.09 | kergoth | Antiarc: i right clicked on an item in my bank to move it to my inventory, now sanity2 believes i have 2 of that item, one in my bank, one in my inventory |
| 06:07.16 | FryGuy | arjor: do you happen to have clique |
| 06:07.20 | Arjor | ye |
| 06:07.22 | kergoth | Antiarc: using baggins for bank and inventory if thats a factor |
| 06:07.43 | FryGuy | did you accidentally left click alchemy when you had the friendly tab of clique open? :p |
| 06:08.01 | Arjor | don't think so |
| 06:08.05 | Arjor | let me check |
| 06:08.08 | FryGuy | check all the tabs |
| 06:08.10 | FryGuy | and see if it's there |
| 06:08.31 | Antiarc | Shouldn't be. I've seen that happen, but I'm not 100% why yet. |
| 06:08.46 | Antiarc | It's an optimization that's too aggressive somewhere. |
| 06:09.54 | Arjor | FryGuy omfg i did. i'm such a retard. thanx m8 |
| 06:11.58 | Funkeh` | nn folks |
| 06:12.03 | gix- | what happened to MountMe btw.? |
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| 06:17.30 | Wobin | any SVN people here? |
| 06:17.34 | Wobin | I can't seem to authenticate |
| 06:18.09 | break19 | I'd like to know why the hell one of my addons isnt showing up in the addons list... the folder is there.. the .toc is there.. yet its not listed in when I click the addons button |
| 06:18.31 | WobWork | Is the toc name exactly the same as the folder name? |
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| 06:18.47 | break19 | that'd be the reason then |
| 06:18.47 | break19 | lol |
| 06:19.36 | Antiarc | Is there an addon that gives you a total sell value for all the trash in your bags, assuming you have a prices mod? |
| 06:19.38 | break19 | cant trust a trucker with a computer.. I tell ya. :p |
| 06:19.45 | break19 | Antiarc: garbagefu |
| 06:19.50 | Antiarc | Thanks |
| 06:20.19 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley * r26809 10Baggins/ (Baggins.lua libs/Sieve-0.1/Sieve-0.1.lua): Baggins: Sieve-0.1.lua changed to UTF-8 and deDE locals fixed |
| 06:20.20 | break19 | and it works with colalight/kci/auctioneer/wowecon and a few others I'm sure I've left out |
| 06:23.46 | CIA-17 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r26810 10Cartographer_Waypoints/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (GuildPoint.lua Waypoint.lua Waypoints.lua): |
| 06:23.46 | CIA-17 | Cartographer - |
| 06:23.46 | CIA-17 | Guildpoint added |
| 06:24.01 | ckknight | guildpoint? |
| 06:24.07 | WobWork | guildmember waypoint |
| 06:24.12 | ckknight | shiny |
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| 06:24.25 | WobWork | I hope that commited to the right place =P |
| 06:24.28 | WobWork | ie branches =P |
| 06:24.31 | ckknight | a party/raidmember waypoint may be also useful |
| 06:24.38 | WobWork | aye, working on that next |
| 06:24.42 | ckknight | meh, I don't mind stuff going into trunk |
| 06:24.45 | WobWork | once I get queueing done |
| 06:24.49 | ckknight | as long as it doesn't break everything. |
| 06:25.08 | WobWork | Nah, I don't want to break Karl's work |
| 06:25.28 | WobWork | oh that'll be added in too |
| 06:25.42 | WobWork | since it's now OO, it's easy to inherit and add in another waypoint type |
| 06:25.49 | KarlThePagan | kergoth, corpse waypoint? |
| 06:25.51 | WobWork | well, once I merge back in |
| 06:25.55 | KarlThePagan | cool |
| 06:26.03 | kergoth | at least i think it was karl, somebody was talking about it anyway :P |
| 06:26.05 | KarlThePagan | well I'm grinding to level 69 now... |
| 06:26.27 | WobWork | *yow* |
| 06:26.34 | WobWork | Other end! Other end! |
| 06:26.41 | KarlThePagan | kergoth, probably someone else, but yea I might have asked ckknight about it |
| 06:26.46 | ckknight | ooh, make a corpse waypoint. |
| 06:27.01 | neenee | What's the difference between the default arrow pointing towards your corpse and this 'corpse waypoint' function to be put in Cartographer? |
| 06:27.05 | ckknight | and make sure it goes away once you res |
| 06:27.08 | KarlThePagan | WobWork, you saw what I intended for chaining waypoints? use "arrive options" etc? |
| 06:27.13 | WobWork | aye |
| 06:27.18 | ckknight | Neebler: 3d arrow onscreen |
| 06:27.24 | WobWork | It should be easy enough to incorporateish |
| 06:27.29 | WobWork | kind of |
| 06:27.30 | WobWork | hang on |
| 06:27.38 | WobWork | lemme read the thread again |
| 06:27.43 | KarlThePagan | yea I was going to do "next:search term" and "repeat:search term" |
| 06:27.48 | neenee | ckknight: Ah. For people who want a larger visual cue than the minimap arrow? |
| 06:27.48 | WobWork | ah |
| 06:27.53 | KarlThePagan | my parsing was a little too lazy so i figured I'd leave it be |
| 06:28.00 | ckknight | neenee: yep |
| 06:28.03 | neenee | ckknight: oki |
| 06:28.09 | WobWork | as in 'Golden sansam' then 'next closest Golden Sansam? |
| 06:28.16 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 06:28.24 | KarlThePagan | that would be /way golden sansam a-repeat |
| 06:28.27 | ckknight | and now that I have a Shaman, I want to make a Hunter |
| 06:28.39 | WobWork | hm |
| 06:28.41 | KarlThePagan | (same as /way golden sansam a-"repeat:golden sansam" |
| 06:28.46 | ckknight | man I'm fickle. |
| 06:28.48 | WobWork | I'll have to figure that one =) |
| 06:28.57 | KarlThePagan | yea the functions are all setup for it ;) |
| 06:29.07 | KarlThePagan | just missing parser |
| 06:29.11 | WobWork | aye |
| 06:29.35 | WobWork | Your current parser is fairly esoteric =) |
| 06:30.24 | KarlThePagan | heh |
| 06:30.50 | KarlThePagan | the who-style stuff? |
| 06:31.12 | KarlThePagan | this would go into parseArrivalOptions |
| 06:32.02 | ckknight | clearly you should make a full LL parser. |
| 06:32.03 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:32.17 | Cyrez | The author of ClosetGnome_Zone in here? |
| 06:32.51 | vhaarr | I can probably help. |
| 06:33.32 | Cyrez | If you zone when you're dead, it tries to switch your clothes anyway. I don't see the point of that. :-P |
| 06:33.42 | vhaarr | :P |
| 06:33.51 | Cyrez | I found that out doing my mage quest in SW. |
| 06:34.33 | Cyrez | Had a little trouble when three of those Void-like things ganked me. |
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| 06:34.43 | Cyrez | Twice. |
| 06:34.44 | Cyrez | >< |
| 06:34.55 | Cyrez | And I noticed that when I stepped inside the city. |
| 06:35.22 | Cyrez | I saw the randomly generated dialog with the outfit name. |
| 06:35.24 | KarlThePagan | so I spend 90 minutes grinding mana wraiths for motes of mana for my riding crop |
| 06:35.36 | KarlThePagan | then an hour later I get a quest to kill more of them... for essences... |
| 06:35.42 | KarlThePagan | which have a drop rate almost as bad as motes! |
| 06:37.08 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26811 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ClosetGnome_Zone.lua: ClosetGnome_Zone: Don't try to change outfits if we're dead. |
| 06:37.13 | gix- | *notetoself* disable "Dismount on error" in MountMe when using a flying mount |
| 06:37.25 | vhaarr | haha |
| 06:37.49 | break19 | dismounting in air = bad, huh? ;p |
| 06:38.28 | ckknight | I still like how the arrow changes color based on distance :-P |
| 06:38.35 | ckknight | it amuses me. |
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| 06:39.23 | gix- | break19: well not so bad for me :p i can just blink before hitting the ground, or be lazy and use slow fall |
| 06:39.45 | break19 | ckknight: for some reason, this voice just entered my head, female, with a british accent "we are not amused" |
| 06:39.48 | break19 | gix-: heh |
| 06:40.00 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:40.10 | Cyrez | <3<3 |
| 06:40.42 | ckknight | I'm neither british nor female |
| 06:40.45 | break19 | ok.. I'm gettin goofier than usual (which is sayin a lot).. sleepiness causes that for me.. so... heh |
| 06:40.56 | break19 | ckknight: yea, but still... heh |
| 06:40.59 | break19 | nite guys |
| 06:41.37 | Cyrez | Other than that bug which was just fixed, I loved it. <3 |
| 06:41.54 | ckknight | what race is recommended for a Hunter on the Horde? |
| 06:42.18 | Tralium | so why does the first boss in mechanar suck so bad for shadow priests to heal through |
| 06:42.18 | Cyrez | It craps on Outfitter's zoning abliity from a great height. |
| 06:42.18 | Tralium | -_- |
| 06:42.19 | WobWork | orcs get a racial bonus don't they? |
| 06:42.22 | neenee | The one you think will be most enjoyable to you, as looks are important too |
| 06:42.37 | WobWork | Cyrez: I'd say it rawrbombs it =) |
| 06:43.26 | WobWork | hometime |
| 06:43.29 | WobWork | rarr |
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| 06:44.37 | ckknight | Orcs get a bonus to pest |
| 06:44.38 | ckknight | pets* |
| 06:44.42 | ckknight | trolls get a bonus to bows |
| 06:44.56 | ckknight | BEs are hot, but I don't know |
| 06:44.59 | krka | tauren! |
| 06:45.05 | ckknight | I'm thinking that an Orc would fit me... |
| 06:45.08 | ckknight | why Tauren? |
| 06:45.15 | krka | warstomp and extra hp! |
| 06:45.16 | vhaarr | Tralium: Remind me again, which one is that, the two-bosses-as-one boss with a cache loot? |
| 06:46.04 | sergio | vhaarr: why the hell won't cg_mount work for me. I made a set called Mount and even specified it to be used when I mount through the menus but it won't switch to my riding crop. I don't get it |
| 06:46.14 | vhaarr | sergio: o_O |
| 06:46.27 | vhaarr | sergio: enUS? |
| 06:46.29 | sergio | yes |
| 06:46.59 | Cyrez | I'd choose Tauren. If you think about it, when you're taming a beast you kinda have to LET it beat you up. :-P |
| 06:48.07 | sergio | trolls are ugly and have no shoes but beserking and +bows is nice but I think I'd just pick whatever you want to look at for a long time |
| 06:48.09 | ckknight | yea, but that doesn't happen very often |
| 06:48.14 | vhaarr | sergio: Does the mount set show in the fubar tablet? |
| 06:48.18 | ckknight | let's all roll down the list of pros and cons |
| 06:48.20 | sergio | vhaarr: no |
| 06:48.25 | vhaarr | sergio: okay, that's a good thing. |
| 06:48.27 | vhaarr | so wtf |
| 06:48.46 | ckknight | Tauren: pro, they have a pimp-ass culture and guns are sweet. con, they're ginormous |
| 06:48.48 | sergio | I made the set all red except the 2nd trinket slot |
| 06:48.59 | vhaarr | hrm |
| 06:49.31 | ckknight | Orc: pro, +damage for pets +resist stun. con, kinda ugly and I can't really relate to them |
| 06:49.44 | sergio | the skinning addon doesn't do shit either if it's suppose to always switch when skinning but I just thought it only switched when you needed the skill |
| 06:50.01 | vhaarr | yeah, I didn't write that one though |
| 06:50.02 | ckknight | Troll: pro, +bows, +vs. beasts. con: their berserking is way too complicated to make me remember to actually press it. also, ugly |
| 06:50.04 | vhaarr | so I have no idea how it works |
| 06:50.17 | ckknight | BE: pro, hot. con: gay |
| 06:50.32 | ckknight | well, not just gay |
| 06:50.32 | Cyrez | Tauren: +10 Nature Resistance helps if you plan to have a Wind Serpent. |
| 06:50.35 | ckknight | balls-on-balls gay |
| 06:50.46 | sergio | beserking isn't complicated you just make a macro for it with rapid fire |
| 06:50.56 | sergio | if you can't hit it every 3 minutes then :( |
| 06:51.21 | sergio | I'd go BE just because I hate being ugly |
| 06:51.29 | sergio | even though their racials aren't suited for a hunter |
| 06:52.18 | Tralium | vhaarr, mechanar is the one that is having so many problems, elevator not showing, doors not unlocking or resetting, etc |
| 06:52.22 | Tralium | ive never made it to the last boss |
| 06:52.26 | Tralium | cause its so buggy |
| 06:52.36 | vhaarr | I've done it 3 times without problems. |
| 06:52.36 | Tralium | onlY has 3 bosses |
| 06:52.55 | vhaarr | Tralium: I'm just wondering which boss you say shadow priests have problems with. |
| 06:53.03 | Tralium | the first one |
| 06:53.06 | Tralium | mechano lord |
| 06:53.14 | vhaarr | There are actually 4 bosses, you know. |
| 06:53.27 | vhaarr | The two named ones drop 2 parts of a key that you use to open a chest. |
| 06:53.46 | Tralium | those are mini bosses |
| 06:53.57 | Tralium | theirs 3 normal bosses |
| 06:54.10 | sergio | this is all I have for my "Mount" set |
| 06:54.10 | vhaarr | 1/2 + 1/2 = 1 |
| 06:54.11 | sergio | [14] = "|cff0070dd|Hitem:25653:0:0:0:0:0:0:283391904|h[Riding Crop]|h|r", |
| 06:54.23 | vhaarr | sergio: yeah, give me a few minutes, something is very wrong here |
| 06:54.53 | ckknight | I think Tauren look fine |
| 06:54.57 | ckknight | i.e. not ugly |
| 06:55.02 | ckknight | Orcs and Trolls are ugly, though |
| 06:55.06 | ckknight | Undead, too |
| 06:55.16 | sergio | orcs look best in bulky armor |
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| 06:55.24 | sergio | tauren look ridiculous |
| 06:55.34 | sergio | just /random it |
| 06:55.55 | Cyrez | Taurens look cute when they're picking an herb that's barely as big as their hands. ^^ |
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| 06:56.22 | vhaarr | sergio: It works fine here. |
| 06:56.29 | vhaarr | sergio: Is CG_Mount set to standby? |
| 06:56.34 | vhaarr | sergio: /cgmount standby |
| 06:56.37 | Cyrez | It looks like a minotaur trying to impress a date. |
| 06:58.23 | ckknight | I dunno, I just want to have an easy time leveling and be good at PvP eventually |
| 06:58.50 | ckknight | Hunter'd be good for that, right? |
| 06:58.51 | sergio | nope |
| 06:58.58 | sergio | when I did that it suspended it |
| 06:59.17 | neenee | No race has that big a disadvantage or advantage that the choice for a race actually influences the outcomes of fights I think |
| 06:59.31 | vhaarr | sergio: It works fine on my 70 priest on flying mount and normal mount, and on my 62 rogue on normal mount. |
| 06:59.35 | Cyrez | The way I see it, any class/race combo can kick ass if the human component behind it knows how to use it. |
| 06:59.36 | vhaarr | sergio: So, sorry, I can't help you. |
| 07:00.46 | Cyrez | And it means a lot more if you use one of the weaker combinations to pummel other people into the ground. |
| 07:01.33 | Cyrez | It's like being in a wheel chair and still ramming your foot in somebody's ass. ^^ |
| 07:01.33 | sergio | vhaarr is it normal that some sets don't have the slot number before the item |
| 07:01.37 | neenee | There are no weaker combinations |
| 07:02.07 | neenee | But if choosing a race makes you think that, hence motivating you to 'show them what you can do', by all means, go for it. |
| 07:02.57 | Cyrez | I mean in terms of the racial bonuses being not so usefull or pointless for a particular class. |
| 07:03.56 | Cyrez | Increased stealth detection is best for rogues but not very useful to, let's say, a priest. |
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| 07:04.32 | Cyrez | I wasn't thinking at all of the base stats. |
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| 07:10.02 | CIA-17 | 03rophy * r26812 10SimpleUnitFrames/ (24 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:10.03 | CIA-17 | SimpleUnitFrames: |
| 07:10.03 | CIA-17 | - Added ClassIcon to player, target and party frame. |
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| 07:14.06 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, for being good at pvp here's one thing to consider - shamans don't have any instant-cast heals |
| 07:14.19 | KarlThePagan | that means you're easily interrupted by warrior, rogue, paladin stuns |
| 07:14.32 | vhaarr | sergio: you mean it's added as a comment behind? |
| 07:14.37 | KarlThePagan | well you do have one every 3 minutes with nature's swiftness |
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| 07:15.48 | ckknight | I don't necessarily have to be a healer |
| 07:16.28 | sergio | vhaarr I know what the problem was |
| 07:16.29 | Tralium | dont shamans have a talent to make their heals uninteruptable |
| 07:16.39 | sergio | vhaarr using SE embed as LoD |
| 07:17.21 | sergio | I was using SpecialEventsLod.bat |
| 07:18.32 | vhaarr | sergio: ah |
| 07:18.40 | vhaarr | sergio: let me "fix" that |
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| 07:19.54 | art3mis | hrm |
| 07:19.55 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26813 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Try to load SE-Mount-2.0, so that we force the LoD addon to load. |
| 07:19.59 | art3mis | simple chat is kinna lame |
| 07:20.07 | art3mis | its much smalelr than prat |
| 07:20.11 | art3mis | smalelr |
| 07:20.13 | art3mis | smaller |
| 07:20.13 | vhaarr | It's not lame, it's how I want it. |
| 07:20.23 | art3mis | i wish it had like 2 options |
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| 07:21.33 | ckknight | I dunno, anyone recommend what class would be good that'd provide (relatively) easy leveling with later PvP abilities? |
| 07:21.56 | vhaarr | art3mis: Everything about it can be configured via the TOC or via in-game global-scoped constants. |
| 07:21.58 | art3mis | simplechant needs a toggle for channel numbers |
| 07:22.09 | art3mis | how do you add the channel number? |
| 07:22.33 | art3mis | and how do you fix the bugs that it gives when you doa /chatwho # |
| 07:22.37 | art3mis | ;) |
| 07:22.41 | vhaarr | you modify SCM_CHANNELNAMES_REGEXPS |
| 07:22.45 | art3mis | those are the two things i'd change ;P |
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| 07:23.08 | tjs | hey |
| 07:23.17 | art3mis | mainly cuz it tries to make the # into a name which chat commands don't like |
| 07:23.25 | vhaarr | I should update it to use secure hooking, but, meh |
| 07:23.27 | vhaarr | cba |
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| 07:23.39 | art3mis | although what i'd REALLY love for a chat mod would be the ability to anchor windows on other windows |
| 07:23.43 | art3mis | like the general tab does |
| 07:24.00 | tjs | DLd agUF last night to try it out, I'm on a macbook pro with a 15"4' widescreen display, at 1440x900 res, the unit frames looked really tiny |
| 07:24.03 | art3mis | that way i could seperate ;P |
| 07:24.12 | tjs | is there any way to scale it? |
| 07:24.21 | art3mis | yeah to bypass it juist needs to = true |
| 07:24.21 | Fumler | ye |
| 07:24.28 | art3mis | according to the bugs anyways ;P |
| 07:24.37 | tjs | also, I cant see an option to get old style normal portraits |
| 07:24.43 | Fumler | tjs, ctrl+rightclick (or what it shift? hmm) |
| 07:25.03 | sergio | I seriously want to choke the aldor guy laughing in shattrath every time I port |
| 07:25.08 | tjs | the animated portraits are really annoying, especially in pvp, its like movement in the corner of your eye |
| 07:25.17 | tjs | Fumler: ty |
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| 07:25.54 | art3mis | so vhar |
| 07:26.04 | art3mis | whats the variable for channel number? |
| 07:26.50 | art3mis | ooo neat |
| 07:26.57 | art3mis | it uses C syntax for vars in a string |
| 07:27.34 | Teshnor | 03:56 * Disconnected |
| 07:27.52 | Teshnor | 08:07 * Attempting to rejoin channel #wowace :P |
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| 07:28.16 | Teshnor | Not much of a sleeper :/ |
| 07:28.22 | art3mis | 08:09 * Cry like a little girl in my coffee. |
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| 07:28.40 | art3mis | ;) |
| 07:28.43 | Teshnor | haha |
| 07:28.51 | tlund | hmmmmmm, after my recent mass-migration to ace2-based addons, one of them seems to be scanning my bags everytime there is a change in them. this means the game freezes for 2 seconds when i switch gears with outfitter.. does anyone have any ideas on what addon that might be? |
| 07:28.57 | Teshnor | I love coffee :) especially since it's REAL |
| 07:29.28 | art3mis | heh |
| 07:30.00 | haste | Coffee <3 |
| 07:30.21 | Teshnor | Espresso beans ftw ;) |
| 07:30.35 | haste | aye, that's what I use |
| 07:30.47 | Cyrez | That's why I switched from Outfitter to ClosetGnome and never looked back. |
| 07:32.00 | tlund | Cyrez: its not outfitter that does it, i have been running outfitter for a very long time |
| 07:32.07 | Teshnor | what addons you got Cyrez? |
| 07:32.15 | tlund | this problem occurs whenever i loot stuff alsp |
| 07:32.34 | Teshnor | got a bag mod? :) |
| 07:32.35 | haste | You know what would help? a list of your current add-ons :) |
| 07:32.40 | Cyrez | Mostly Ace2 stuff, now, except mainly X-Perl. |
| 07:32.44 | PogoTribal | Kergoth, I'd have to assume it's something with action bars |
| 07:32.49 | vhaarr | tlund: Got AutoBar? |
| 07:32.50 | haste | http://www.pastey.net/ is great for posting such on IRC |
| 07:32.53 | tlund | vhaarr: yes |
| 07:32.58 | Teshnor | http://fwc.asfett.com/music/Mark_Oakley_-_Some_things_do_change.mp3 <-- My latest WIP ;) |
| 07:33.00 | vhaarr | Try disabling that. |
| 07:33.09 | tlund | vhaarr: ok, will do. |
| 07:33.27 | tlund | vhaarr: i guess there is an event that fires when your inventory is updated, right? |
| 07:33.31 | vhaarr | yes |
| 07:33.39 | Teshnor | Just because it's ace2 doesn't mean the addon intself is well coded :) |
| 07:33.40 | vhaarr | tlund: And AutoBar does crazy shit on that event. |
| 07:33.40 | tlund | vhaarr: i was thinking of checking what addons hook that and try them one by one |
| 07:33.44 | Teshnor | Just the libraries :D |
| 07:33.45 | tlund | ok |
| 07:33.56 | vhaarr | Teshnor: Some libraries are crap as well,. |
| 07:34.06 | tlund | Teshnor: well, i was going to check what addons have a handler for the event :) |
| 07:34.06 | sergio | http://sp.cream.org/images/wow/fierywarhorse.png my little horsey |
| 07:34.23 | Teshnor | vhaarr: I was thinking about Ace2-framework though :P |
| 07:34.28 | vhaarr | right |
| 07:34.38 | haste | sergio: heh, I read [Gm] has come online :p |
| 07:34.54 | Teshnor | vhaarr: what libs did you have in mind? :) personal note what to stay away from |
| 07:35.12 | art3mis | pvp horsey? |
| 07:35.15 | vhaarr | Teshnor: I'll keep that to myself. |
| 07:35.23 | Teshnor | hehe fair enough |
| 07:35.26 | sergio | he is the gm |
| 07:35.29 | Fumler | khazaran horse |
| 07:35.33 | art3mis | ooo |
| 07:35.45 | art3mis | ive been so slack lately about leveling |
| 07:35.54 | Cyrez | I have the same outfits in CG that I had in Outfitter and it doesn't stall for nearly as long. |
| 07:35.54 | art3mis | only 64.75 |
| 07:36.03 | haste | I'm 69.45! |
| 07:36.04 | Teshnor | sergio: Ugly mount :/ |
| 07:36.06 | haste | and I've been it for days |
| 07:36.12 | Teshnor | My purple Elekk looks cooler |
| 07:36.12 | haste | at least I have rested to L70 |
| 07:36.12 | Fumler | im 70.00! |
| 07:36.21 | haste | Well, you suck Fumler |
| 07:36.24 | Fumler | pf |
| 07:36.25 | haste | so there's no fixing that |
| 07:36.26 | sergio | Teshnor: You have a right to be wrong |
| 07:36.28 | Fumler | i roc |
| 07:36.29 | Fumler | k |
| 07:36.41 | art3mis | hrm wodner if industrial is up yet |
| 07:36.44 | Teshnor | sergio: That fiery warhorse looks like crap? |
| 07:36.54 | art3mis | how fast does it run? |
| 07:37.19 | Teshnor | probably as fast as an epic horse |
| 07:37.23 | Teshnor | why would it run faster? |
| 07:37.27 | sergio | it's just 100% |
| 07:37.28 | art3mis | and am i the only person that sees a wow screen shot and instinctively mouses over things to see what they are? |
| 07:37.30 | Teshnor | I mean, they can teleport to anywhere anyway |
| 07:38.04 | art3mis | shrug the flying mounts move fast in air figured that it might run faster or something |
| 07:38.17 | art3mis | to make it cool |
| 07:38.33 | sergio | what I truly think is ugly are the horde flying mounts in blue and green |
| 07:38.35 | art3mis | my shadow kodo is way cooler ;P |
| 07:38.41 | art3mis | and purple |
| 07:38.52 | art3mis | all the cool kids get the purple one |
| 07:38.55 | Teshnor | Can't make that mount cool... It's butt ugly :/ |
| 07:39.09 | art3mis | the kodo? |
| 07:39.16 | art3mis | no way shadow kodo's are awesome |
| 07:39.21 | Teshnor | no the gm mount |
| 07:39.24 | art3mis | oh |
| 07:39.40 | art3mis | when i ran wowemu my mount was a yellow bug |
| 07:39.45 | art3mis | at 500% speed |
| 07:40.39 | Teshnor | :D |
| 07:40.39 | art3mis | and sometimes a dragon that could only hover ;P |
| 07:40.39 | art3mis | which was funny |
| 07:40.39 | Teshnor | cheatz0r! |
| 07:40.39 | Fumler | When I ran WoWWoW i ran at 500% speed.. |
| 07:40.40 | art3mis | Burning Chrome was my repack if you're still in the scene at all ;P |
| 07:40.52 | art3mis | havent touched it in about a year though |
| 07:41.24 | Teshnor | vhaarr: maybe you could point me in the right direction... is there in any way possible to actually track what weapon (mainhand or offhand) that triggered it's proc, if both of them have the same one? |
| 07:43.03 | vhaarr | Teshnor: err |
| 07:43.08 | vhaarr | Teshnor: What are you talking about now? |
| 07:43.14 | ckknight | Fumler: WoWWoW? |
| 07:43.31 | art3mis | hey vhaarr |
| 07:43.45 | Arrowmaster | sergio: what minimap addon is that? |
| 07:43.50 | art3mis | how come simplechat seems to each my incoming whispers |
| 07:43.59 | art3mis | s/each/eat/g |
| 07:44.03 | Fumler | ccknight, ye something like that. |
| 07:44.23 | sergio | Arrowmaster: squeenix with a black border |
| 07:44.27 | art3mis | wowwow was a c# emu |
| 07:44.36 | art3mis | came out shortly after wowemu got cracked |
| 07:44.36 | vhaarr | art3mis: Not sure, works fine here. |
| 07:44.47 | art3mis | hrm wodner if its something else thats catching them then |
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| 07:46.42 | art3mis | what does sticky do? |
| 07:46.59 | art3mis | holds the chat window at the spot you scroll up to? |
| 07:49.58 | Teshnor | vhaarr: I'm talking about the wow api ;) it doesn't tell what weapon triggered a proc in the combat message, so I was wondering if there is a way to find out... |
| 07:50.53 | art3mis | whats yer guys opinion of vChat ? |
| 07:51.03 | Teshnor | don't use it... use Prat ;) |
| 07:51.08 | art3mis | prat is bloated |
| 07:51.15 | Gngsk | lololol |
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| 07:51.21 | art3mis | im getting away from mods that have more shit than i need or want ;P |
| 07:51.25 | Teshnor | that depends though |
| 07:51.29 | art3mis | not at all |
| 07:51.39 | art3mis | for what i want its bloated |
| 07:51.47 | Teshnor | as you said, that have more shit than you need or want :) |
| 07:52.00 | art3mis | ;) |
| 07:52.04 | Teshnor | Prat has everything I want, and a tiny bit more that I can remove since it's so smart built :) |
| 07:52.16 | Lysithea | yah, modular = win |
| 07:52.22 | Gngsk | is it that hard to to remove prat modules? |
| 07:52.23 | Teshnor | I'll recommend you to take a look at ChatBox |
| 07:52.32 | art3mis | you really think just cuz you "disable" it that its not taking up some em on load? |
| 07:52.34 | Teshnor | it's not ace, but it's good |
| 07:52.39 | art3mis | nah i want ace |
| 07:53.06 | art3mis | im lazy ;P |
| 07:53.06 | Gngsk | /delete dir |
| 07:53.06 | Teshnor | art3mis: I removed the files :) |
| 07:53.06 | Gngsk | good game |
| 07:53.06 | art3mis | hence why i was asking about vchat |
| 07:53.06 | art3mis | laugh |
| 07:53.06 | Lysithea | disable? I just remove the folder of the module |
| 07:53.08 | krka | "it's not ace, but it's good" is such a bad attitude :( |
| 07:53.10 | Teshnor | vchat didn't work for me... it was buggy |
| 07:53.10 | art3mis | <-- lazy |
| 07:53.15 | art3mis | ahh buggy like how? |
| 07:53.21 | Teshnor | krka: tell that to Mik ;) |
| 07:53.41 | krka | i'll tell it to anyone who says it! |
| 07:53.45 | Teshnor | art3mis: I got loads of problems when using it... don't know why |
| 07:53.51 | art3mis | hrm |
| 07:54.02 | Teshnor | krka: ace is not always the best solution |
| 07:54.05 | art3mis | you also couldnt connect to bf2142 aftera widnows update ;P |
| 07:54.10 | Teshnor | it can bloat the smallest addon :) |
| 07:54.13 | art3mis | but ill give it a miss for now heh |
| 07:54.42 | krka | my point was, that the statement implied that non-ace mods are bad, until proven otherwise |
| 07:54.49 | art3mis | guess ill wait for industrial to get back and see his legacy chat thingy |
| 07:54.57 | ckknight | hrm, I could go Rogue... |
| 07:54.57 | ckknight | what do people think? Hunter or Rogue? |
| 07:54.57 | ckknight | for fast leveling and whatnot |
| 07:54.57 | ckknight | as well as endgame efficacy |
| 07:55.04 | Teshnor | art3mis: don't judge me based on that :) |
| 07:55.08 | art3mis | heh |
| 07:55.13 | art3mis | depends ckk |
| 07:55.16 | Teshnor | ckknight: hunter |
| 07:55.20 | art3mis | do you like doing things for yourself? |
| 07:55.22 | Teshnor | for fast leveling |
| 07:55.34 | Teshnor | rogue rules in pvp, but will have a hard time leveling on it's own |
| 07:55.42 | art3mis | do you like being hit with nerf bats every couple of weeks? |
| 07:55.54 | ckknight | myself? |
| 07:56.01 | art3mis | yeah |
| 07:56.07 | art3mis | hunters have pets to do things for them |
| 07:56.11 | Teshnor | by that he means, do you want a pet to do everything for you? :D |
| 07:56.22 | Teshnor | and yes he said... :P |
| 07:56.28 | art3mis | theres also a video and guide of how to level to 60 as a hunter in 20 hours |
| 07:56.29 | vhaarr | Teshnor: ah, no, I don't think that's possible. |
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| 07:56.47 | Teshnor | vhaarr: just as I thought... then I'm up for some real pain :( |
| 07:56.47 | art3mis | janna's guide i believe |
| 07:56.59 | ckknight | art3mis: 4 days 20 hours |
| 07:57.18 | Teshnor | and 4 days 20 hours is far from impossible :) |
| 07:57.25 | art3mis | yeah yeah my brain skips along faster than my fingers ;P |
| 07:57.33 | art3mis | its really fast though one sec |
| 07:57.46 | Teshnor | my shammy is 5 days old and lvl40 (and I haven't been grinding that much + I've been rp:ing and been to guild meetings etc.) |
| 07:58.22 | ckknight | well, I haven't really had the chance/patience to get a Rogue past lvl 12 or so... |
| 07:58.29 | ckknight | wondering how it is |
| 07:58.55 | Teshnor | maybe because rogues tend to get boring? |
| 07:58.58 | Teshnor | same thing all over |
| 07:59.21 | Teshnor | and if you don't like to backstab people to death, it's no fun at all |
| 07:59.48 | Teshnor | impossible to fight fair with a rogue :) then you'll get squished like a bug |
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| 08:01.19 | ckknight | yea, I'm not fond of rogues |
| 08:01.22 | ckknight | just in general |
| 08:01.27 | ckknight | even other people playing em |
| 08:01.37 | ckknight | it's like, pshaw, you're a dick by default. |
| 08:01.44 | haste | cool |
| 08:01.55 | Teshnor | exactly |
| 08:02.00 | Teshnor | so if you like being a dick, play rogue :D |
| 08:02.07 | Teshnor | alot of people do |
| 08:02.28 | Teshnor | I'd vote for hunter though |
| 08:02.51 | ckknight | I am by far not a dick |
| 08:03.06 | Teshnor | :) |
| 08:03.09 | Teshnor | like me then |
| 08:03.15 | ckknight | thus rogues have rubbed me the wrong way |
| 08:03.31 | Teshnor | I just love my shammy so much |
| 08:03.53 | Teshnor | It's totally insane to have 140 dps at lvl37 :D |
| 08:03.59 | haste | I just hate my shammy so much |
| 08:04.17 | Teshnor | why? :/ |
| 08:04.32 | Elkano | 140 white DPS? |
| 08:04.35 | haste | I don't find it any fun to play, just frustraiting |
| 08:04.37 | Cyrez | My roommate is a rogue and he happens to be a dick and quite proud of it. |
| 08:04.54 | ckknight | so... Tauren Hunter seem cool? |
| 08:05.04 | Teshnor | tauren? :/ |
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| 08:05.12 | ckknight | what do you recommend |
| 08:05.13 | ckknight | ? |
| 08:05.15 | Teshnor | dwarf :D |
| 08:05.16 | ckknight | (must be Horde) |
| 08:05.17 | vhaarr | dwarf |
| 08:05.19 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 08:05.21 | Cyrez | Yah, Tauren Hunter FTW. That's what I'd do. |
| 08:05.24 | Elkano | orcish beast master? ;) |
| 08:05.36 | Teshnor | if horde, then I'd say it's orc |
| 08:05.44 | ckknight | hrm |
| 08:06.02 | Teshnor | thing is, you have to actually think about the size of your char |
| 08:06.02 | ckknight | yea, I suppose |
| 08:06.08 | ckknight | true |
| 08:06.12 | Teshnor | taurens tend to get more attention :) |
| 08:06.17 | ckknight | wish Tauren weren't so wide :-P |
| 08:06.23 | Cyrez | I'd like to have that racial HP bonus of the Tauren if I'm waiting for my pet to run over and save my ass. |
| 08:06.24 | haste | go female! |
| 08:06.28 | haste | they aren't that wide |
| 08:06.30 | ckknight | haste: not for Orcs. |
| 08:06.37 | ckknight | oh, yea |
| 08:06.46 | ckknight | nah, I'll be male if I'm Tauren/Orc |
| 08:06.49 | Teshnor | that's why gnomes kinda rock in pvp |
| 08:06.50 | haste | and Orcs are... green |
| 08:06.53 | ckknight | I'd say |
| 08:07.01 | vhaarr | A long time ago, Tauren female hitboxes were actually so wide they couldn't enter the Molten Core instance through the front entrance. |
| 08:07.01 | Teshnor | gnome rogues is a real pain in the arse! |
| 08:07.07 | vhaarr | They fixed that, though :P |
| 08:07.16 | sylvanaar | what class are you now ckknight? |
| 08:07.20 | Teshnor | vhaarr: Haha :D |
| 08:07.23 | ckknight | sylvanaar: gonna go Hunter methinks |
| 08:07.42 | vhaarr | They had to stock up on Noggenfoggen elixir and stand outside drinking. |
| 08:07.43 | ckknight | sylvanaar: any suggestions? |
| 08:07.47 | vhaarr | Hoping to get the skeleton buff. |
| 08:07.50 | sylvanaar | you havent started a toon yet? |
| 08:08.02 | Teshnor | the easiest way to get speed of a weapon is with gratuity? |
| 08:08.22 | ckknight | sylvanaar: I have other toons... |
| 08:08.28 | ckknight | sylvanaar: dissatisfied, though. |
| 08:08.49 | Elkano | well, wrt size I hate not being able to ride into SW bank :/ |
| 08:09.13 | sylvanaar | i would suggest shamen - because its a melee caster and easy to level |
| 08:09.22 | art3mis | http://www.mediafire.com/?bk0yjyjw3jt 1-60 horde leveling guide |
| 08:09.36 | ckknight | already have it, art3mis |
| 08:09.54 | ckknight | sylvanaar: I have a shaman lvl 13 :-P |
| 08:09.59 | ckknight | I dunno if I like him |
| 08:10.01 | ckknight | dies too easily |
| 08:10.20 | art3mis | http://www.mediafire.com/?ckymgwujkng 60-70 horde guide |
| 08:10.29 | art3mis | its for everyone else ;) |
| 08:10.30 | Elkano | you could also play a druid.. but take large bags with you for the three armor sets you'll carry |
| 08:10.47 | sylvanaar | dont bother with druid |
| 08:11.18 | vhaarr | druids are absolute rockers at tanking 5man instances, and can DPS just as well as a rogue in cat. |
| 08:11.29 | vhaarr | I'm doing heroic instances with a druid tanking, he has 25k armor. |
| 08:11.29 | ckknight | maybe Lock, but my brother's a Lock, so I don't really want to. |
| 08:11.40 | ckknight | dayum |
| 08:11.45 | sylvanaar | yeah, they are slow to level |
| 08:11.54 | Teshnor | ckknight: everything but resto shammys are meant to dish out more dps than your opponent :) thus killing your foe before you die hehe |
| 08:12.31 | krka | i disagree.. it's about dishing out damage, not damage per second |
| 08:12.40 | art3mis | druids are great fun |
| 08:12.41 | xlvii | uhm.. |
| 08:12.45 | xlvii | is there a fix for cartographer? |
| 08:12.46 | Teshnor | krka: not really |
| 08:12.46 | Cyrez | Druids are great, especially with an on-the-ball Priest backing them up without messing up aggrro. |
| 08:12.54 | sylvanaar | <--- druid |
| 08:12.55 | xlvii | my herbalism circles keep on following me |
| 08:12.56 | art3mis | if i wasnt a priest i'd be weither a druid or a mage |
| 08:12.59 | krka | and spiked damage is better than overall dps rate |
| 08:13.00 | Teshnor | krka: generally, time is of the essence when in a pvp fight |
| 08:13.06 | ckknight | xlvii: I don't have that problem |
| 08:13.15 | ckknight | xlvii: tell me how to reproduce and I'll fix it |
| 08:13.22 | Teshnor | krka: what you are talking about is a slow two-hander, right? :) |
| 08:13.25 | krka | right. then you don't mean dps, you mean as much damage in as short time as possible |
| 08:13.33 | Teshnor | uhm, that's dps |
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| 08:13.50 | Teshnor | I don't get your point krka... |
| 08:14.08 | krka | "per second" is generally considered something that runs over a long period of time |
| 08:14.15 | Teshnor | no |
| 08:14.21 | Teshnor | that's dots |
| 08:14.29 | sylvanaar | well say he meant, sustained vs burst |
| 08:14.47 | Teshnor | dps is something you calculate from the time being in combat and the damage dealt during that time |
| 08:14.57 | krka | yes, dps is only meaningful when you're talking about sustained damage over several minutes |
| 08:15.18 | Teshnor | you can calculate dps over one duel? |
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| 08:15.23 | art3mis | shieldb: mags have wicked burst damage but thier sustained dps is rather weak |
| 08:15.30 | art3mis | shieldb: mags have wicked burst dps but thier sustained dps is rather weak |
| 08:15.38 | oers | hi :) |
| 08:15.48 | Teshnor | doesn't mean you can hold that dps at all times (especially for a shammy, since they rely alot on weapon procs) |
| 08:16.08 | ckknight | hey, oers |
| 08:16.12 | art3mis | priests have excellent sustained dps |
| 08:16.20 | Teshnor | art3mis: yes I agree with that... but when we're talking about pvp it's mostly about burst damage |
| 08:16.25 | art3mis | yup |
| 08:16.30 | art3mis | unless you're fighting a hunter ;P |
| 08:16.39 | art3mis | then you're just talking about how tocook your food |
| 08:16.42 | art3mis | ;) |
| 08:16.49 | Teshnor | so true :) |
| 08:16.57 | oers | can someone help me with a svn problem? i can't import my addon 8[ |
| 08:17.12 | ckknight | oers: you importing to dev.wowace.com? |
| 08:17.14 | Teshnor | oers: what does it say? |
| 08:17.19 | oers | svn: MKACTIVITY von '/wowace/!svn/act/542bfabd-6528-0410-b632-d2b0e98e3569': 400 Bad Request (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 08:17.22 | art3mis | i'd sugest useing the wau instead of svn to update yer mods |
| 08:17.32 | |Kev| | my druid hit 1300dps the other day on a mob (burst) |
| 08:17.34 | ckknight | art3mis: he's committing. |
| 08:17.45 | art3mis | that would be an export then ;P |
| 08:17.51 | art3mis | ;) |
| 08:17.52 | ckknight | no, that's import |
| 08:17.54 | Teshnor | |Kev|: That mob fight lasted for how long? |
| 08:18.08 | art3mis | depends on the point of reference |
| 08:18.12 | |Kev| | three mangles and a ferocious bite |
| 08:18.12 | oers | svn import http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/DynRepBar -m "DynRepBar: Initial Check-In" |
| 08:18.20 | |Kev| | lucky crits |
| 08:18.20 | Teshnor | |Kev|: So about 10 seconds? :) |
| 08:18.24 | |Kev| | yeah |
| 08:18.25 | Teshnor | nah must be less |
| 08:18.25 | oers | thats the command |
| 08:18.29 | |Kev| | less |
| 08:18.30 | Teshnor | It had 13k hp? :D |
| 08:18.33 | ckknight | oers: *shrug* |
| 08:18.36 | art3mis | it may be that someone already did a commit so the sync has changed? |
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| 08:18.59 | Teshnor | |Kev|: Let's just say that a good equipped shammy can dish out 5k dmg in 3 seconds ;) |
| 08:19.06 | |Kev| | *nod |
| 08:19.09 | Teshnor | with a lucky hit that is |
| 08:19.15 | |Kev| | note that I was 65 at the time :) |
| 08:19.24 | sylvanaar | is manglex3 better than claw manglex2? |
| 08:19.29 | art3mis | a nice feral druid can do 350+ dps ;P |
| 08:19.37 | art3mis | good ferals scare me |
| 08:19.42 | ckknight | so what should I be? :-( |
| 08:19.43 | |Kev| | art3mis: yes, I do >350 sustained at 65 |
| 08:19.45 | Teshnor | of course... problems with droods is that they are easy to counter :) |
| 08:19.57 | art3mis | im sitting at 292 as a 64 shadow priest |
| 08:20.08 | |Kev| | ckknight: my favourite classes are, in order, Druid, Mage, Priest, Lock |
| 08:20.16 | Teshnor | I'm at 150dps at lvl40 with my shammy :D |
| 08:20.22 | Teshnor | sustained |
| 08:20.28 | art3mis | the main downfall of feral druids is the dont dodge block parry n stuff |
| 08:20.42 | sylvanaar | they dodge |
| 08:20.47 | art3mis | so basically they're like amp'd rogues ;P |
| 08:20.58 | art3mis | who cant take a hit ;P |
| 08:21.05 | art3mis | the rogues that is |
| 08:21.08 | Teshnor | yup, but they can't sap, and they can't gouge and they can't vanish :) |
| 08:21.13 | art3mis | heh |
| 08:21.15 | |Kev| | indeed |
| 08:21.19 | art3mis | ya know whats always bothered me about druids? |
| 08:21.21 | |Kev| | dps of a rogue without the utility |
| 08:21.24 | oers | the project does not exist in the svn yet |
| 08:21.26 | |Kev| | that's what blizz promised all along |
| 08:21.34 | Teshnor | droods rock in pve, when it comes to dishing out damage :) |
| 08:21.38 | art3mis | the fact they get such better stat'd gear because leather stats kick the craop out of cloth stats |
| 08:21.40 | oers | so nobody could have committed |
| 08:21.40 | |Kev| | urgh, work time |
| 08:21.42 | Teshnor | but in pvp they are screwed |
| 08:21.50 | art3mis | oh |
| 08:21.52 | KarlThePagan | depends really Teshnor |
| 08:21.54 | Teshnor | they would do a better job healing the local shammy :D |
| 08:22.00 | art3mis | well then i'd sugtgest finding kael and see whats up |
| 08:22.01 | Talyx | rogues itemize better than druids for damage |
| 08:22.15 | Teshnor | KarlThePagan: everything is relative, of course :) |
| 08:22.18 | KarlThePagan | vs a mage or priest they can't be easily cc'd and outdoors they can run em down |
| 08:22.20 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 08:22.22 | Teshnor | but I'm talking in general |
| 08:22.48 | art3mis | druids are easy in pvp |
| 08:22.54 | sylvanaar | no point in comparing a druid form to its |
| 08:23.00 | Teshnor | mages and priests kinda suck in pvp as well... if you consider survivability rate :P |
| 08:23.02 | sylvanaar | "like" class |
| 08:23.23 | art3mis | dot dot dot mb fear mf mf mf *wait for druid to shift* silence mb fear mf mf mf |
| 08:23.24 | KarlThePagan | Teshnor, depends ;) |
| 08:23.40 | art3mis | shadow priests are pretty tough for pvp |
| 08:23.50 | ckknight | I want to be relatively effective in PvP, eventually |
| 08:23.51 | Teshnor | art3mis: can't fear if I got tremor totem ;) |
| 08:23.54 | ckknight | that's very high priority |
| 08:24.01 | art3mis | there's a reason that we're almost always target first by more than 1 person ;) |
| 08:24.05 | sylvanaar | play a shamen ck srsly |
| 08:24.07 | Teshnor | and most peeps don't give a damn about totems |
| 08:24.15 | art3mis | druids dont have totems ;P |
| 08:24.18 | ckknight | sylvanaar: :-P |
| 08:24.19 | Teshnor | until it's too late :D |
| 08:24.22 | ckknight | fine |
| 08:24.38 | art3mis | and ive never fought a shaman anywhere near this totems ;P |
| 08:24.38 | Lysithea | totems are meleed down first thing I do as a priest |
| 08:24.46 | Teshnor | art3mis: I was talking about countering priests ;) |
| 08:24.52 | Teshnor | and since I'm a shammy fan, that's how I do |
| 08:24.55 | Lysithea | then its fear dot mb swd silence flay dead time |
| 08:25.03 | art3mis | i start with a silence and dot him up and start running around ;P |
| 08:25.08 | Teshnor | and save earth shock for when priest try to heal his poor ass ;) |
| 08:25.13 | art3mis | heh |
| 08:25.18 | Teshnor | if he survive the first windfury that is :) |
| 08:25.28 | Lysithea | Teshnor you mustve met bad priests :/ |
| 08:25.35 | art3mis | the only class i lose to consistently are good rogues |
| 08:25.38 | art3mis | that stunlock me |
| 08:25.40 | Teshnor | most players are bad Lysithea |
| 08:25.51 | sylvanaar | before lifebloom + new talents druids had no counter to dispell/purge |
| 08:25.53 | art3mis | stunlocked caster == dead caster |
| 08:26.05 | Teshnor | Lysithea: So tell me how you do it |
| 08:26.16 | sylvanaar | they were target #1 for my priest |
| 08:26.33 | art3mis | hehe me too |
| 08:26.41 | art3mis | druids mages hunters and dotting rogues |
| 08:26.49 | art3mis | that was pretty much all i took care of in pvp |
| 08:27.02 | Teshnor | I would say that the best class all in all is warlock |
| 08:27.06 | Teshnor | but it's butt hard to play right |
| 08:27.07 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 08:27.09 | art3mis | nope |
| 08:27.14 | art3mis | kill the pet kill the lock ;P |
| 08:27.21 | art3mis | locks die VERY fast without pets |
| 08:27.23 | Teshnor | not really |
| 08:27.27 | art3mis | yes really |
| 08:27.31 | Teshnor | they can still fear the hell out of you |
| 08:27.36 | art3mis | take away soul link or sac and their sittin ducks |
| 08:27.38 | Lysithea | melee the groudning, melee tremor (im 1hand + offhand so they go down fast, or use wand if I start at range... never really do since Ive only met shamans in duels) fear when totems are down dot dot ve mb swd, fear ends somewhere here, silence flay to death |
| 08:27.55 | Teshnor | and by the time you're finished with the pet you would most likely be dead, if it's not an imp that is |
| 08:28.08 | art3mis | nope dots are a wonderful thing ;P |
| 08:28.20 | art3mis | but really fighting a lock is all about who gets the first workign fear off |
| 08:28.31 | art3mis | generally if the lock starts it yer kinna screwed |
| 08:28.37 | Teshnor | Lysithea: By the time you've done that I would have proc:ed a windfury and you'll have to heal |
| 08:28.38 | art3mis | its zstill possible to win but its a lot harder |
| 08:29.03 | Teshnor | Lysithea: Then it's just purge shield, earth shock .... by then most priests are dead :) |
| 08:29.03 | Lysithea | Teshnor you'd have to get a wf on your first ~2hits then |
| 08:29.11 | Teshnor | yeah, and mostly I do |
| 08:29.20 | art3mis | i've got devouring that i use when i wanna be annoying ;P |
| 08:29.22 | Lysithea | good for you, but after that I dont have to heal |
| 08:29.31 | sylvanaar | i was a warlock for a year, before i switched to druid, its a cross between shadow priest and mage, and most play it like one or the other |
| 08:29.38 | Lysithea | cause ve will heal me up, if you arent dead after the fear that is |
| 08:29.49 | Lysithea | and after fear I can just dotkite you |
| 08:29.51 | Lysithea | aswell |
| 08:29.54 | Teshnor | enhancement shammys rely alot on procs :) |
| 08:30.05 | art3mis | welp bed time for me busy busy busy day tomorrow |
| 08:30.09 | art3mis | ciao kiddies |
| 08:30.15 | Teshnor | thus relying alot on spirit as primary attribute, since it add to the procs probability to trigger |
| 08:30.27 | sylvanaar | i dont know how to beat shamen on my priest |
| 08:30.35 | Lysithea | ench shamans have to get a double wf just in the beginning (first 5sec) to get me down really |
| 08:30.54 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: Range. |
| 08:30.55 | Teshnor | stormstrike |
| 08:30.59 | Teshnor | :) |
| 08:31.00 | Teshnor | boom |
| 08:31.17 | Teshnor | that's a guaranteed wf |
| 08:31.20 | sylvanaar | vhaarr dont know how to get it - only one option |
| 08:31.44 | Teshnor | and then on the second swing (if you got 3.0+ two-handed) you'll have a big chance of getting a second wf |
| 08:31.55 | Lysithea | yeh well, what you're trying to describe has never happened to me Teshnor, maybe once a day but does those few occurences really matter? |
| 08:31.58 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: SW:P, fear, mana burn, run away while dispelling yourself, and then repeat when fear CD is done. |
| 08:32.03 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: You'll win every time. |
| 08:32.13 | Teshnor | Lysithea: You said to me I met bad priests? I guess you've met bad shammys :D |
| 08:32.26 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, earthshock |
| 08:32.28 | Lysithea | I dont understand how you keep me in range, really |
| 08:32.33 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: What about it? |
| 08:32.42 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: You're feared, you can't interrupt anything. |
| 08:32.44 | KarlThePagan | if you slip up and burn when they're not feared |
| 08:32.53 | KarlThePagan | or trinket and shock with the right timing |
| 08:33.01 | vhaarr | pft |
| 08:33.03 | vhaarr | renew + shield |
| 08:33.12 | Teshnor | vhaarr: mana burn is a real waste against enchant shammys :/ |
| 08:33.13 | vhaarr | pwns anything you can instant cast on us while running |
| 08:33.21 | vhaarr | well, that works for me |
| 08:33.23 | Teshnor | enchance even |
| 08:33.24 | Teshnor | doh |
| 08:33.50 | Teshnor | vhaarr: purge takes care of renew and shield |
| 08:33.56 | Lysithea | Teshnor how do you get me into range after the fear? tell me cause im interested onto how your magic works :P |
| 08:34.00 | vhaarr | only time shamans take me is in group pvp when I'm healing others, so they can melee me with that stupid windfury |
| 08:34.00 | ckknight | for my shammy, what's recommended (until dual-wield) 1h + shield or 2h? |
| 08:34.09 | vhaarr | Teshnor: Whatever you say, I don't lose to shammys, so that's it. |
| 08:34.24 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, shield or 2h for grinding imo |
| 08:34.28 | KarlThePagan | err 2h |
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| 08:34.33 | KarlThePagan | kek |
| 08:34.55 | Myrathi | Gotta be close enough to shock - and that's unlikely if you don't resist fear. Heck, I can get range on shammies just by running through them (yay lag). :p |
| 08:34.57 | sylvanaar | it helps now tho that preists have anti-dispell in thier talents |
| 08:35.09 | ckknight | okay, and how do I stop dying? |
| 08:35.11 | Teshnor | Lysithea: first off the first fear will be taken away by trinket, so you'll have to get another fear away :) |
| 08:35.17 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: And imp. mana burn is the best pvp talent you can get. |
| 08:35.19 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, make stuff dead |
| 08:35.21 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: For 2 points. |
| 08:35.25 | snurre | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baUPs5wgEco my realm is inhabited by freaks.... |
| 08:35.32 | ckknight | it's hard when 2 people are on me at once. |
| 08:35.43 | Teshnor | vhaarr: never lost against a shammy 1on1? :) |
| 08:36.09 | Teshnor | I only tend to lose against priests if he got a friend with him |
| 08:36.14 | vhaarr | Teshnor: no |
| 08:36.29 | Teshnor | vhaarr: are you shadow specced? |
| 08:36.34 | vhaarr | no |
| 08:36.47 | Myrathi | ckk: 2 vs anyone is kinda hard. :\ |
| 08:36.49 | sylvanaar | vhaarr yeah, i have had it before - prolly more useful now with the HP scaling up and not mana |
| 08:36.50 | Teshnor | hmm ok :) guess you've met loads of crappy shammys then :/ |
| 08:37.00 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: yeah, it burns like hell |
| 08:37.03 | vhaarr | Teshnor: heh |
| 08:37.05 | Lysithea | Teshnor that'll give me range out of melee distance, and then? frostshock? No sir you'd be silenced and my dots will be ticking |
| 08:37.19 | PogoTribal | is the size of the two default chat boxes locked to a certain minimum? |
| 08:37.28 | ckknight | Myrathi: I can typically handle it with my priest in the same situation |
| 08:37.28 | Teshnor | Lysithea: If you silence me on frost shock I'll just heal instead ;) |
| 08:37.33 | Cyrez | Back when I was using my roommate's account, people would ask me if I'm Shadow or Holy and I'd say, "neither." ^^ |
| 08:37.44 | sylvanaar | thats the simplified chat |
| 08:37.47 | Lysithea | yeah, good, heal and I get range and cds for a second fear is coming |
| 08:37.54 | Lysithea | my mana wont run dry |
| 08:38.33 | Cyrez | I was doing gnomer with two other priests and I was outhealing them even though I'm Disc spec. |
| 08:38.34 | vhaarr | And you won't have mana to heal, we'll manaburn it anyway. |
| 08:38.35 | Teshnor | Lysithea: that depends... might have a earthbind totem out |
| 08:38.37 | sylvanaar | or whatever its called |
| 08:38.38 | Myrathi | And while he's healing, you're mana burning, too. Gets frustrating (as a shammie) :p |
| 08:38.49 | snurre | theorycrafting pvp ftw? :p |
| 08:38.51 | vhaarr | Teshnor: I'm telling you, you've played against bad priests, I haven't played bad shamans. |
| 08:38.59 | Arrowmaster | that whole HP scaling up thing was a bunch of crap imho, they said they were reducing the itemvalue of sta but really all they did was up the itemvalues of everything |
| 08:39.01 | Teshnor | hehe |
| 08:39.24 | sylvanaar | no there is alot of stam on stuff |
| 08:39.25 | Lysithea | Teshnor so no tremor then? earthbind is the same as tremor, destroyed before fear, I could always dispell it |
| 08:39.34 | Arrowmaster | some stuff |
| 08:39.34 | sylvanaar | you can get 80 stam on a green |
| 08:39.38 | Teshnor | whatever :) let's just say that any class is dead if a shammy get two wfs within 3 sec ;) |
| 08:39.40 | snurre | itemvalues and levels are kinda weird.. lvl70 greens are ilvl120 while kara epics are 100 o.O |
| 08:39.43 | Lysithea | yeah |
| 08:39.47 | Lysithea | Once a day maybe! |
| 08:39.52 | vhaarr | Teshnor: That's the whole point, you won't get it with range. |
| 08:40.06 | Teshnor | nah, if timed good enough you can do it alot more than once per day |
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| 08:40.20 | Lysithea | meant once a day on me |
| 08:40.30 | Teshnor | hehe |
| 08:40.42 | Cyrez | And those awesome holiday baked things required level 40 but IL65. |
| 08:41.04 | Myrathi | The Gooch meatloaf things? |
| 08:41.05 | Arrowmaster | right now i think my 'dream' gear is lvl70 greens since none of the tbc items have really looked that great to me |
| 08:41.14 | sylvanaar | i like priests, they are a fairly complex class, and have utility that matches the mechanics of the game closely |
| 08:41.34 | Teshnor | Lysithea: this is a stupid discussion :D |
| 08:41.42 | Lysithea | it really is :( |
| 08:41.42 | Myrathi | I always enjoy dispelling druids' hots as they shift into bear form. :p |
| 08:41.44 | Teshnor | so I'm going to end it hehe |
| 08:42.01 | sylvanaar | yeah, but lifebloom helps with that |
| 08:42.11 | Teshnor | There we go! |
| 08:42.16 | Teshnor | :D |
| 08:42.19 | Myrathi | Whassat? |
| 08:42.34 | Cyrez | I'd love to fear with my Priest and DoT as they're running away while I run the OTHER way. ^^ |
| 08:43.05 | Lysithea | :P |
| 08:43.11 | Teshnor | :D |
| 08:43.25 | Teshnor | sw:p sucks for someone who can't heal ;) |
| 08:43.56 | Myrathi | Especially when you can pop it a buncha times and rack up weaving debuffs << |
| 08:44.05 | Teshnor | Lysithea: I have a shadow specced 60 priest myself ;) so I know how many killing blows you can get in bgs just by throwing sw:p on everyone you see :D |
| 08:44.15 | sylvanaar | and not to mention the blackout proc spam |
| 08:44.29 | Myrathi | Yup. Especially with range increase... catches rogues out all the time. :] |
| 08:44.35 | Lysithea | mages are scary at 70 :( |
| 08:44.42 | Myrathi | And fear warding yourself as you respawn annoys the hell out of warlocks. :p |
| 08:44.51 | Teshnor | :D |
| 08:44.57 | Lysithea | spell steal owns me everytime, they burst me down faster than I can burst them without my shield |
| 08:45.03 | Arrowmaster | most things in pvp suck for people who cant heal |
| 08:45.10 | Teshnor | guys... what is the easiest way to get the speed out of a weapon? |
| 08:45.15 | Teshnor | with wow api that is |
| 08:45.16 | Adirelle|work | ~seen Kagaro |
| 08:45.45 | purl | kagaro <n=kagaro@cpe-069-134-153-219.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 15m 11s ago, saying: 'i wonder if its becuase of the sub directory i moved the .lua to'. |
| 08:45.45 | Teshnor | or should I use gratuity? |
| 08:45.46 | Arrowmaster | you want the weapons speed or your current attack speed? |
| 08:45.46 | Adirelle|work | ~ping |
| 08:45.50 | purl | pong |
| 08:45.55 | Teshnor | Arrowmaster: both actually |
| 08:46.25 | Arrowmaster | umm the tooltip on the char panel says the current speed and haste ratting right? |
| 08:46.31 | Teshnor | I'm only checking weapons that are in hand ;) |
| 08:46.33 | Arjor | guys i'm having some lag spikes since i've updated all my mods yesterday. anyone else had this problem ? |
| 08:46.53 | Cyrez | Lag? What is this lag? |
| 08:47.00 | Cyrez | Oooo, that. |
| 08:47.21 | Cyrez | ^^ |
| 08:47.24 | Cyrez | Er, no. |
| 08:47.29 | Lysithea | <Teshnor> thus relying alot on spirit as primary attribute, since it add to the procs probability to trigger <. this one confuses me, I' heard similar rumors before but I've never ever seen any facts or confirmation on it |
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| 08:48.34 | Myrathi | Uh, TMK spirit doesn't affect any procs in any way. |
| 08:49.00 | Lysithea | yeah same |
| 08:49.50 | Lysithea | I mean, if it would there would be alot more facts and theorycrafting on it |
| 08:49.54 | Teshnor | It says so in the official strategy guide :) |
| 08:49.57 | Teshnor | But I guess they are wrong :/ |
| 08:50.15 | sylvanaar | spirit? |
| 08:50.17 | Lysithea | the tbc or godawful old one? |
| 08:50.30 | Teshnor | the old one hehe, haven't bought the new one yet |
| 08:50.56 | Lysithea | yeah, that has to be some very old info cause Ive seen noone talking about spirit for proccs ever |
| 08:51.04 | nee|work | Me neither |
| 08:51.30 | Teshnor | you say ever... which is very confusing it's even mentioned in the book |
| 08:51.30 | sylvanaar | same |
| 08:52.01 | Lysithea | Dont have one.. |
| 08:52.13 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4547.0 |
| 08:52.20 | Teshnor | they can't just have made it up now could they? |
| 08:52.28 | nee|work | Perhaps the book was printed before the game was out, with a 'Any information contained in this work may be subject to change yadda yadda' |
| 08:52.32 | Teshnor | it must be based on something |
| 08:52.33 | Lysithea | could be old beta info or something? |
| 08:52.43 | Teshnor | otherwise it wouldn't be the official strategy guide :) |
| 08:52.44 | sylvanaar | does your book mention warlocks being able to banish people? |
| 08:52.55 | ckknight | Adirelle|work: yea, I should add that. |
| 08:53.10 | Teshnor | nee|work: It was not |
| 08:53.18 | nee|work | Teshnor: ok. Hmm.. |
| 08:53.36 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: btw, if there was a way to globally hook IsNoteHidden, I think it could be possible to make a "note search" module |
| 08:53.40 | Lysithea | Does it say priests got sleep/brainwash/mindrot? |
| 08:53.51 | Lysithea | and uh... instant mb? |
| 08:53.54 | ckknight | Adirelle|work: talk to KarlThePagan |
| 08:53.55 | Teshnor | effect: banish the enemy target |
| 08:54.01 | ckknight | he knows about searching notes |
| 08:54.09 | Adirelle|work | oki |
| 08:54.18 | sylvanaar | made by bradyguide or whatever? |
| 08:54.24 | nee|work | 'The second last skill that should be increased regardless of specialization, as you move up in level you will not be able to regain health enough with spirit to really warrant it, and it only otherwise helps weapon procs, and negligibly at that.' |
| 08:54.33 | Adirelle|work | he should be pinged then :) |
| 08:54.44 | Adirelle|work | ~KarlThePagan |
| 08:54.49 | Teshnor | Lysithea: nope it does not |
| 08:55.16 | KarlThePagan | Adirelle|work, pong |
| 08:55.27 | sylvanaar | nice and vague |
| 08:55.31 | Teshnor | nee|work: quoted from where? |
| 08:55.38 | Adirelle|work | KarlThePagan: are you working on a Cart search feature ? |
| 08:55.49 | KarlThePagan | Cartographer_Notes:FindNote |
| 08:56.05 | nee|work | Teshnor: http://wow.ogaming.com/data/3276~WarriorStrategy.php |
| 08:56.11 | Cyrez | I want an Ace2 clone of WoWKB. <3 |
| 08:56.26 | Adirelle|work | KarlThePagan: I thought about an UI to search all database, something like /nsearch some-text |
| 08:56.27 | todd` | I want an Ace2 threat meter <3 |
| 08:56.42 | Teshnor | Spirit: Improves Hit Points and Mana recovery, Raises Chance for Weapon Procs to Enact |
| 08:56.44 | KarlThePagan | I've seen IsNoteHidden in the database handlers... I like the idea of including/excluding hidden notes in FindNote |
| 08:56.45 | Adirelle|work | KarlThePagan: that will hide every notes that don't match |
| 08:56.46 | Teshnor | that's what it says in the book ;) |
| 08:56.53 | nee|work | :) |
| 08:56.59 | Teshnor | but only for shammy |
| 08:57.02 | Teshnor | not for any other class |
| 08:57.07 | nee|work | For Warrior on the site ;) |
| 08:57.10 | KarlThePagan | Adirelle|work, you mean filter shown notes on the map? |
| 08:57.19 | Adirelle|work | KarlThePagan: yep, ponctually |
| 08:57.36 | Teshnor | I mean, they must have based that on something, right? |
| 08:57.41 | Teshnor | It can't just be taken out of thin air |
| 08:57.44 | Adirelle|work | KarlThePagan: it would require some working in basic Cart Notes to allow proper hooking |
| 08:57.48 | Talyx | Spirit also increases your chance to 'proc' with weapons. |
| 08:57.49 | Talyx | wow |
| 08:57.53 | Talyx | that Warrior guide is real good |
| 08:57.54 | Adirelle|work | KarlThePagan: and this would be a Notes module I guess |
| 08:58.15 | KarlThePagan | Adirelle|work, sounds doable |
| 08:58.16 | Teshnor | Talyx: We are discussing that right now, if it's true or not :P |
| 08:58.17 | Adirelle|work | KarlThePagan: next step would be listing zones with matching notes |
| 08:58.23 | Talyx | it's not |
| 08:58.23 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 08:58.30 | Lysithea | it most certainly is not |
| 08:58.33 | Teshnor | Talyx: But that's what it says in the official strat guide |
| 08:58.46 | KarlThePagan | Adirelle|work, I can probably change FindNote to work like my FindZone function |
| 08:58.53 | Talyx | a prima one? |
| 08:58.57 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r26814 10ag_UnitFrames/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:58.57 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames : |
| 08:58.57 | CIA-17 | - Add EXP locale |
| 08:58.57 | CIA-17 | - Update locales (need translation another language) |
| 08:58.57 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 08:59.05 | Talyx | maybe it could have been like that a long time ago in alpha/beta |
| 08:59.07 | KarlThePagan | i.e. match1, match2, match3 = FindX(parameters,targetTable) |
| 08:59.09 | Talyx | but not now |
| 08:59.27 | KarlThePagan | that way you can do result, notexact = FindX(...) |
| 08:59.41 | KarlThePagan | then you could display your results in a table |
| 09:00.05 | Talyx | Agility: Increases all characters' chance to Critical Hit. Agility affects dodge. Agility adds directly to Defense. |
| 09:00.05 | Talyx | For the offensively minded warrior, the first skill of choice. |
| 09:00.10 | Teshnor | Spirit Increases Health and Mana regeneration. Spirit affects all characters' Mana and Hit Point regeneration rates in and out of combat. Spirit also increases your chance to 'proc' with weapons. |
| 09:00.11 | Talyx | heh |
| 09:00.13 | Teshnor | http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Stats.View |
| 09:00.16 | Teshnor | :) |
| 09:00.20 | ckknight | btw, what'd be a good profession for a shaman? |
| 09:00.21 | Talyx | agility adds directly to "defense" |
| 09:00.33 | Teshnor | now how come it's mentioned at many different sources? |
| 09:00.45 | KarlThePagan | Adirelle|work, yea just look for "FindNote" and "FindZone" inside Carto Notes |
| 09:00.59 | KarlThePagan | and how I use them in Carto Waypoitns |
| 09:01.16 | Lysithea | Teshnor these many diffrent sources is? |
| 09:01.49 | Teshnor | official strategy guide, the link I posted above and the source nee|work quoted from |
| 09:01.51 | Talyx | because they are guides written by companies that probably outsorce to create guides written by people who have probably not even gotten a character to level 60 |
| 09:02.08 | Lysithea | Cause I havent seen anything about it since a 1½year back when it was discarded as false |
| 09:02.17 | Talyx | oh god why am I talking |
| 09:03.11 | Lysithea | yeh, this another silly discussion, Teshnor take my word for it for your own good, spirit does not increase proccrates in the current build |
| 09:03.21 | nee|work | :) |
| 09:03.36 | Teshnor | I'm not saying it does :) |
| 09:03.38 | nee|work | I think he knows that, he just wanted some confirmation that he/his strategy guide wasn't going crazy |
| 09:03.50 | Teshnor | but I'm not saying it don't either... got no proof for any of it :P |
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| 09:04.20 | nee|work | Good point. I doubt many melee characters have a lot of spirit to try it out :) |
| 09:04.50 | Lysithea | But there would be someone crazy enough to test it most definatelt |
| 09:04.51 | Lysithea | y |
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| 09:05.10 | Lysithea | or priests with any procc weapon from any blue dagger or some sort |
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| 09:05.28 | Lysithea | hand of edward the odd for example! |
| 09:05.34 | Teshnor | nee|work: spirit is my second highest attribute on my shammy :P |
| 09:05.44 | nee|work | I think that's more a paladin weapon though Lysithea |
| 09:05.56 | nee|work | Teshnor: nice :) Ah yes, I keep forgetting about Shamans |
| 09:06.05 | Lysithea | yeh, but priests tend to have more spirit no? |
| 09:06.19 | Teshnor | yeah but maybe it's class specific? |
| 09:06.20 | Teshnor | :p |
| 09:06.21 | nee|work | Probably |
| 09:06.24 | nee|work | Hm |
| 09:06.26 | nee|work | Maybe |
| 09:06.31 | nee|work | The site I linked mentioned warriors though |
| 09:06.38 | Lysithea | yeah anyway, no, i wont believe it :P |
| 09:06.42 | Adirelle|work | KarlThePagan: I see, in fact, a note search module would include two differents things |
| 09:07.08 | KarlThePagan | all ears! |
| 09:07.23 | Adirelle|work | 1) in multizone search: lists the zone where any matching note is found |
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| 09:07.45 | Adirelle|work | 2) in all case, hook IsNoteHidden to force hiding of unmatching notes |
| 09:08.13 | Adirelle|work | btw... testing IsNoteHidden in FindNote IS a great idea |
| 09:08.19 | ckknight | perhaps there's a better way than hooking |
| 09:08.23 | ckknight | say, a proper API method |
| 09:08.33 | Adirelle|work | yep |
| 09:09.21 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, IsNoteHidden should be exposed in Cartographer_Notes |
| 09:09.33 | KarlThePagan | maybe I'll do that tomorrow |
| 09:09.35 | ckknight | alright |
| 09:09.36 | KarlThePagan | 1am here |
| 09:09.38 | ckknight | sounds good. |
| 09:09.42 | Adirelle|work | making the whole handler thing more visible would help a lot |
| 09:10.00 | KarlThePagan | true |
| 09:10.19 | Teshnor | http://vnboards.ign.com/wow_shaman_class/b22783/100396235/r101087516/ |
| 09:10.28 | Teshnor | I guess that answers all our questions |
| 09:10.37 | Adirelle|work | a simple thing would be to create a default handler with all needed methods |
| 09:10.43 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, what about registering a global note handler which applies to all databases after? or before? each DB's handlers |
| 09:10.52 | KarlThePagan | ding |
| 09:10.59 | KarlThePagan | yea Adirelle|work ;) |
| 09:11.03 | ckknight | what do you mean? |
| 09:11.45 | KarlThePagan | in the Carto Notes module there's a handler for each database which provides the method IsNoteHidden and several others (for menu / tooltip etc) |
| 09:12.14 | Adirelle|work | in fact, there is two approachs: 1) search registered handle for a method, defaulting to our one if none exists |
| 09:12.15 | KarlThePagan | if we could register a series of handlers then other modules could insert conditions into the note hiding logic |
| 09:12.47 | Adirelle|work | 2) create a base NoteHandler class with default method and expect handlers to inherited from it |
| 09:12.57 | KarlThePagan | Adirelle|work, for (1) how about passing a table of zones -> table of id's |
| 09:13.08 | ckknight | Adirelle|work: don't want to do (2) |
| 09:13.18 | KarlThePagan | don't need full OO-ness yet |
| 09:13.25 | Adirelle|work | agreed, too heavy, and would requires |
| 09:13.39 | Adirelle|work | I talked about it for completeness |
| 09:13.42 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 09:14.03 | Adirelle|work | "woud requires " + "heavy module changes" |
| 09:14.25 | KarlThePagan | well sounds good... |
| 09:14.36 | KarlThePagan | i'm gonna finish off one last quest and then sleep ;) |
| 09:14.52 | Adirelle|work | maybe simply have a "defaultHandler" and doing "local handler = self.handlers[db] or self.defaultHandler" |
| 09:15.38 | ckknight | maybe. |
| 09:15.47 | ckknight | why is the default handler necessary, btw? |
| 09:16.09 | Adirelle|work | either to use around the function ? |
| 09:16.23 | Adirelle|work | => call handler.method() |
| 09:16.37 | Adirelle|work | I meant easier (damn, should have slept this night) |
| 09:16.45 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, reusing existing logic to accomplish IsNoteHidden on all notes |
| 09:16.59 | Adirelle|work | and new handler could call existing methods |
| 09:17.17 | ckknight | how bout instead |
| 09:17.24 | ckknight | you run through the core handler first |
| 09:17.26 | Adirelle|work | sounds OO :/ |
| 09:17.38 | ckknight | then if it passes, run through the db-specific handler |
| 09:17.47 | ckknight | so that the core handler would take precedence. |
| 09:18.21 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, i like that too |
| 09:18.40 | Adirelle|work | yep |
| 09:18.43 | Adirelle|work | hmm |
| 09:18.46 | ckknight | KISS. |
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| 09:19.34 | Adirelle|work | thinking about Noteshare (filtering) |
| 09:20.21 | Adirelle|work | suppose you have a OnNoteReceive handler, there would be 3 handlers to call : Core, Noteshare's one and eventually the DB specific one |
| 09:21.14 | Adirelle|work | actually core simply ignore duplicate notes |
| 09:21.49 | Adirelle|work | Noteshare filters out note based on user settings, and tries to avoid duplicate "close" notes |
| 09:22.21 | Adirelle|work | but the duplicate handling could be handled directly by the database |
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| 09:22.54 | Adirelle|work | by exemple, I cartographer_quests, when I got duplicate, I merge the quests |
| 09:23.12 | ckknight | right |
| 09:23.22 | KarlThePagan | absolutely |
| 09:23.33 | Adirelle|work | Or in Mining, rare ores could be merged into classical one |
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| 09:24.28 | Talyx | so that spirit/proc thing |
| 09:24.37 | Talyx | http://web.archive.org/web/20040819035441/www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/characters.shtml |
| 09:24.47 | ckknight | basically, there should be an :OnNoteReceive handler |
| 09:24.53 | ckknight | that if it returns true, the note won't be made. |
| 09:25.21 | Adirelle|work | and call it in this order : DB then core |
| 09:25.21 | ckknight | if it doesn't exist or returns non-true, then it'll create the note normally |
| 09:25.31 | ckknight | what'd the core do? |
| 09:25.33 | nee|work | Talyx: Nice one :) |
| 09:25.36 | Adirelle|work | create the note :) |
| 09:25.51 | Adirelle|work | or basically returns true if an exact duplicate is found |
| 09:26.20 | Adirelle|work | the idea behind the core is that it could be hooked or something like that, to allow Noteshare to do its filtering |
| 09:26.27 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:26.27 | Talyx | but as you can see, they fixed it |
| 09:26.29 | ckknight | I suppose |
| 09:26.42 | Adirelle|work | The idea is that noteshare is optionnal |
| 09:27.11 | Adirelle|work | it is just an improvement of basic sharing |
| 09:28.29 | Adirelle|work | well, I don't know, maybe should it integrated into core... but I don't feel it this way |
| 09:28.45 | nee|work | Talyx: Yup. Oh well :) |
| 09:29.11 | Teshnor | uhm, where can I find one-hand axe weapon trainer? |
| 09:29.14 | Teshnor | for alliance |
| 09:30.24 | ckknight | Dwarves? |
| 09:30.27 | KarlThePagan | Adirelle|work, night ;) |
| 09:30.40 | Adirelle|work | KarlThePagan: night :) |
| 09:33.53 | Teshnor | cool :D shammys can wield fist weapons :D |
| 09:34.41 | winkiller | for ages? |
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| 09:40.24 | Cyrez | Holy @#$%... |
| 09:40.33 | Elkano | wb ;) |
| 09:40.35 | Cyrez | Now, THAT is a split. |
| 09:40.48 | Elkano | blame brown |
| 09:40.55 | Cyrez | Love your buffbars, BTW. <3 |
| 09:40.58 | NightHawkTheSane | I blame canada. |
| 09:41.02 | Elkano | ^^ |
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| 09:41.17 | Elkano | NightHawkTheSane, I'd rather blame France... |
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| 09:41.32 | Teshnor | Elkano: yah ;) nice buffbars! |
| 09:41.42 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. tough call |
| 09:42.54 | Cyrez | But it would be neater if it had access to spell info so when you log in with buffs on you the bar is in the right place instead of starting with what time was left. |
| 09:43.27 | nee|work | http://games.flabber.nl/distraction/ - flash game |
| 09:43.33 | Cyrez | I noticed that on my mage. |
| 09:43.47 | Cyrez | Other than that, it's dead sexy. |
| 09:44.09 | Cyrez | Especially when I set the opacity to 80% to match the rest of my UI. |
| 09:45.22 | winkiller | 80% wth? |
| 09:45.50 | winkiller | I'm still searching for the perfect ui. guess I'm not even close |
| 09:45.57 | nee|work | make one |
| 09:46.09 | nee|work | And you're in IRC already? |
| 09:46.13 | Industrial | ssh |
| 09:46.14 | Industrial | :D |
| 09:46.33 | Industrial | multiple desktops <# |
| 09:46.35 | Industrial | <3 |
| 09:46.37 | Industrial | bbl |
| 09:46.56 | winkiller | nee|work: I'm playing around with addons and ui stuff since day1 of my wow career - and still haven't found something to stick with longer than a coupe odf weeks |
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| 09:47.38 | nee|work | :) |
| 09:47.47 | nee|work | I switch around often soon : |
| 09:47.50 | nee|work | er, often that is |
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| 09:50.22 | winkiller | yeah - been stuck with x-perl for a while now |
| 09:50.25 | winkiller | guess x-perl, bartender, confab and prat describe my ui quite well |
| 09:50.38 | nee|work | Do you have a screenshot? |
| 09:50.49 | winkiller | searching one, sec |
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| 09:52.10 | winkiller | http://gallery.art-core.org/v/Screenshots/WoW/TBC/Tharabas_62.jpg.html |
| 09:52.20 | Teshnor | http://fwc.asfett.com/screens/wowui.jpg <--- That's mine :P |
| 09:53.03 | winkiller | I need much open space |
| 09:53.07 | nee|work | You have an odd layout Teshnor, at least, I've not seen anyone have the chat at the top before |
| 09:53.48 | Stephmw | yeah, first time I've seen that too ;) |
| 09:53.59 | Elkano | Teshnor, I see at least three of my addons ^^ |
| 09:54.04 | Teshnor | :D |
| 09:54.33 | Elkano | any reason you're not liking FactionsFu or ItemDB? ;) |
| 09:54.34 | Teshnor | nee|work: :P I love that... one for general/say, one for guild and one for combat log :P |
| 09:54.42 | nee|work | Oldies: http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot120806155553ln7.jpg, http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avse9.jpg, current: http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uiok6.jpg |
| 09:54.54 | nee|work | Teshnor: I have them separated too, but that takes quite some space : |
| 09:55.00 | Teshnor | Elkano: I had ItemDB, but I realized I actually don't use it :) |
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| 09:55.17 | Teshnor | Elkano: And FactionsFu generated errors for me the last time I tried ;) |
| 09:55.28 | nee|work | I am not in the general channel, but have chat windows for party/raid/bg, one for guild and one for everything else - say,yell,addon messages,system messages |
| 09:55.45 | Teshnor | nee|work: Doesn't matter? :) since the viewport have been changed as well |
| 09:56.05 | Elkano | Teshnor, it shouldn't :( tried the latest version? |
| 09:56.16 | Teshnor | nope :) hehe |
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| 09:56.27 | Teshnor | I'm not grinding factions yet though |
| 09:56.43 | Elkano | still it's fun to see how much you gained during the session ^^ |
| 09:56.54 | Teshnor | Elkano: haha :) |
| 09:56.54 | nee|work | Ah. Perhaps I should set a viewport too, instead of ZomgBox |
| 09:57.09 | Teshnor | I'm revered with all the alliance racial factions already :P |
| 09:57.10 | Teshnor | it's sick |
| 09:57.24 | Teshnor | I'm only revered with one race faction on my lvl60 |
| 09:57.32 | Stephmw | Teshnor: try that trick as horde ;) |
| 09:57.48 | Teshnor | Stephmw: what trick? :) |
| 09:57.59 | Stephmw | Teshnor: revered with alliance factions ;-) |
| 09:58.39 | Teshnor | oh haha |
| 09:58.40 | winkiller | I got my raptor before the pvp change |
| 09:58.50 | winkiller | so now I'm 999/1000 Darkspear as an Orc |
| 09:59.03 | winkiller | that looks a bit strange |
| 09:59.11 | Elkano | damn :/ there isn't a single good tank offhand item in game for druids :/ |
| 09:59.20 | Teshnor | :P |
| 09:59.30 | Teshnor | solution = don't be druid |
| 09:59.39 | sylvanaar | still talking about it? |
| 09:59.45 | Elkano | got the tank hammer in BRD but nothing to combine it to |
| 09:59.49 | sylvanaar | dont be druid! |
| 09:59.54 | Teshnor | :D |
| 09:59.56 | Elkano | druid is fun :( |
| 09:59.59 | Gngsk | hmm, there's one offhand that'd be decent for a druid tank but it's low level |
| 10:00.09 | Teshnor | Elkano: And still you're whining about that :P |
| 10:00.31 | Elkano | Gngsk, the one item from Darkshire? |
| 10:00.54 | Teshnor | chars without shield shouldn't tank in end-game :D |
| 10:01.03 | Gngsk | Elkano, yea the totem of infliction |
| 10:01.24 | Elkano | well, with BC at hand I'm not goingto buy sth in the AH but there had been some +60 stamina staffs around |
| 10:01.27 | Gngsk | 50 armor ! |
| 10:01.39 | Elkano | would be like 300 for me |
| 10:02.12 | Elkano | but that's about 1-2% damage reduction only |
| 10:02.43 | Elkano | as I am at 60% reduction already |
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| 10:04.20 | nee|work | Teshnor: Which viewport addon are you using? |
| 10:04.22 | winkiller | Elkano: these 60stam-staves are partly quest rewards and drop like hell I heard |
| 10:04.34 | winkiller | I've got one with +60 AP in cat/bear :) |
| 10:04.35 | Teshnor | Aperture of course |
| 10:05.04 | nee|work | winkiller: What is that button with the mask in the bottom-right area? |
| 10:05.09 | nee|work | Teshnor: oki |
| 10:05.14 | Teshnor | why? :) |
| 10:05.30 | winkiller | neenee: emotebuttons - click pops up 6 around it |
| 10:05.33 | nee|work | I was just curious, I might try replacing Zomgbox |
| 10:05.36 | nee|work | winkiller: ah :) |
| 10:06.27 | winkiller | wtf. I see Lysithea in the chanlist and am shocked :P |
| 10:06.43 | Lysithea | how come |
| 10:06.43 | winkiller | called my lock like that in May 05 |
| 10:06.48 | Lysithea | oh |
| 10:06.49 | Lysithea | :) |
| 10:06.53 | winkiller | and ever had a char named that ever since |
| 10:07.12 | nee|work | someone in my guild is using http://farm1.static.flickr.com/178/372775580_2906c00ea3_o.jpg - I wonder why he has the xloot anchors shown though |
| 10:07.25 | winkiller | gratz on that fine name - do you paly eu or us? |
| 10:07.42 | Lysithea | eu |
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| 10:07.53 | Zeus | come here baby :P |
| 10:07.56 | Zeus | hehe |
| 10:08.09 | winkiller | I can never understand how people can play with stuff nearly at the char |
| 10:08.27 | winkiller | I tried those icehud-thingies, couldn't stand it for more than an hour |
| 10:08.30 | Lysithea | hey now! I didnt know the story behind it untill someone pointed it out to me |
| 10:08.36 | nee|work | Yea, I want to see what's around me too |
| 10:08.51 | nee|work | Lysithea: :) |
| 10:08.52 | winkiller | what story? |
| 10:09.06 | Lysithea | I have my own untiframe and target right under my charachter, rest is at the bottom |
| 10:09.19 | Lysithea | Beeing a healer and all I need to know my hp and mana :) |
| 10:09.29 | Lysithea | some huds aroudn the char tho.. nothx |
| 10:09.48 | winkiller | hm, that's why I tried to put own/target on bottom center. always had it on top |
| 10:09.58 | winkiller | as a rogue it's abit easier than as healer |
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| 10:10.08 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: that games is horrible |
| 10:10.42 | Lysithea | winkiller http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysithea -> go to the greek link |
| 10:10.57 | winkiller | ah, I chose it because of the moon :P |
| 10:11.31 | Lysithea | I heared it somewhere back in '97 and it stuck in my head, the name it is |
| 10:11.33 | Lysithea | forgot the rest |
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| 10:11.57 | winkiller | I stumbled upon it when researching moon names for a bunch of computers :P |
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| 10:12.26 | winkiller | named em after rivers and lotr city/region names then, tho |
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| 10:14.23 | nee|work | egh, stupid system locked up |
| 10:19.58 | nee|work | I wonder how many raiding guilds have slowed to a crawl because of TBC, our guild thought that they'd continue raiding in Azeroth for instance. |
| 10:22.11 | Stephmw | don't see much point tbh |
| 10:22.33 | Stephmw | but I never did get into the raiding aspects much |
| 10:22.37 | nee|work | me neither |
| 10:22.43 | Aenslaed | slowed to a crawl? There's not much to raid atm. Karazhan and Gruuls for the most part. |
| 10:23.10 | nee|work | I did some MC and AQ and some ZG before we managed to get down the bat lady, but apart from that I just quested and did instances |
| 10:23.19 | Aenslaed | and Karazhan is a large problem for most raiding guilds. Pairing down a 40 man to 25, and then from there into 10 mans is drama city |
| 10:23.40 | winkiller | ZG was very nice |
| 10:23.53 | nee|work | Some people are racing to level 70, and upon reaching that, they tried to setup BWL/Naxxramas and failed, because others still wanted to level their characters. |
| 10:24.27 | winkiller | no point in naxx |
| 10:24.28 | Wobin | aaaaaohmm |
| 10:24.28 | Aenslaed | why would any raiding guild go back to bwl/naxx? The gear you get from questing to 70 was better than the drops there for the most part. |
| 10:24.31 | Wobin | *cough* |
| 10:24.38 | winkiller | equip isn't great anymore and it's still hard |
| 10:24.41 | nee|work | I think they wanted to see the content |
| 10:24.41 | Wobin | by 'aaaa' I actually mean left |
| 10:24.59 | winkiller | yeah, ok - I thought of guilds been there |
| 10:25.21 | nee|work | Well, they have, but part of the guild hasn't and wants to see what it's like too ;) |
| 10:25.22 | winkiller | I'd love to see bwl, no interes in naxxx tho |
| 10:25.30 | nee|work | Now we're setting up a join guild thing to get enough people |
| 10:25.48 | Aenslaed | being L70 wont make naxx much easier. Most of it is still execution rather than levels. |
| 10:26.10 | nee|work | Indeed. |
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| 10:27.44 | Aenslaed | nee|work: most raiding guilds are raiding once again. |
| 10:27.57 | nee|work | I wish my guild wasn't so raid-oriented though. It seems you have to have raided to get help with things, or even responses sometimes : |
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| 10:34.05 | NightHawkTheSane | I wish my guid was -more- raid oriented :P |
| 10:34.23 | NightHawkTheSane | too many people are taking way too long to level up |
| 10:34.41 | winkiller | I wish we could find the good way between too few to raid and too many, so people can't join the raids |
| 10:34.53 | Teshnor | AHAHAHAHA |
| 10:35.09 | Teshnor | I just got ambushed by a lvl45 warlock (I'm lvl40 shammy) while I was fighting a lvl41 mob |
| 10:35.21 | Teshnor | I killed the warlock in 8 seconds :D |
| 10:35.29 | Teshnor | LOL |
| 10:35.45 | Aenslaed | NightHawkTheSane: we have a problem with priests levelling up and its not like they are being excluded. We already have two shamans to 70(alliance) but can't do gruul |
| 10:35.47 | Teshnor | Jesus christ that was funny |
| 10:36.25 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r26818 10Necronomicon2/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Necronomicon2: drycode streamlining of item usage, add highlighting texture for equipped spellstone |
| 10:36.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Aenslaed: yeah, our priests are taking forever too. Hell, our 2 -holy- pallies are almost 70 |
| 10:36.44 | Aenslaed | holy isn't too bad at levelling if you do it right |
| 10:37.01 | NightHawkTheSane | strangely, our rogues are taking forever too. :\ |
| 10:37.36 | Aenslaed | heh |
| 10:37.54 | NightHawkTheSane | which frankly i just don't get... but meh. |
| 10:41.05 | nee|work | I'm level 65 :) |
| 10:41.46 | Aenslaed | i'm loving tbc. I can finally spec feral and still be productive in raids. I feel weaker in pvp but only cause I can actually die now lol |
| 10:42.18 | [Ammo] | a feared druid is a dead druid :p |
| 10:42.21 | [Ammo] | regardless of spec |
| 10:42.32 | Aenslaed | well, the new pvp trinket is nice |
| 10:42.34 | Aenslaed | 2 minute cd |
| 10:42.51 | Aenslaed | so its 'always' up |
| 10:43.21 | abbat_w | btw |
| 10:43.32 | abbat_w | reflectors now have 2 min cd too |
| 10:43.39 | NightHawkTheSane | I love the feral druid i;ve been doing 5 mans with |
| 10:43.55 | Aenslaed | yeah, fulfill any role except primary healer lol |
| 10:44.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, and the 5 man i've been running with is me (prot warrior), a holy pally, a mage, a hunter, and said feral druid |
| 10:44.27 | NightHawkTheSane | we really mess shit up instances :P |
| 10:44.32 | Aenslaed | swstats says I can dps as much as any rogue of similar gear levels. I tanked almost every instance. Secondary healed on some. etc etc. |
| 10:45.19 | winkiller | I have a 62 rogue and a 58 druid.. guess I'm not so suited for open combat :P |
| 10:45.52 | Aenslaed | and man, karazhan is amazing. My role changes from pull to pull. Nightmare i'm healing. Moroes i'm add tanking/rounding up. Maiden secondary healing. Opera house depends on what event. Curator/illhoof/aran doing dps |
| 10:46.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Aenslaed: while I'm not doubting you can dps as well as a rogue, It kind of makes me sad that that's possible. I'm depressed about the future of rogues |
| 10:46.25 | Aenslaed | i wouldn't be. Numbers aren't all that rogues bring to the table |
| 10:46.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Eh... it's 90% of what they do. |
| 10:46.43 | NightHawkTheSane | especially in raids |
| 10:46.51 | Aenslaed | aggro free dps is the big thing (Vanish). kick, cos |
| 10:47.28 | Aenslaed | the huge emphisis in karazhan so far for interrupting spell casts is something a feral druid will never be able to replace. |
| 10:47.52 | NightHawkTheSane | That's good, to hear (no offense..). I really havn't seen anything in karazhan, so |
| 10:48.07 | NightHawkTheSane | (there's an extra comma in that sentance.. :\) |
| 10:48.52 | Aenslaed | and depending on spec, the dps is pretty much the same atm. We had two of the 81dps daggers drop from moroes and the rogues respecced asassination. Still put out top3 damage. |
| 10:49.27 | Aenslaed | once we get a few 1h swords, its not even going to compare. |
| 10:53.23 | nee|work | My priest had about 450 stamina, so I replaced some of my items with crit/spell damage/intellect items instead yesterday. Netherweave is nice to stay alive, but only having stamina and healing/damage is not that great |
| 10:54.12 | nee|work | The imbued netherweave stuff is nice though |
| 10:57.01 | nee|work | Hehe: 'Now that everyone hates healing and lots of the priest community has left thier class, finding healers can be very frustating for players. Since my services are at a premium i charge people to go heal for them on thier runs. I know im not the only one doing this, so how much are you forcing people to pay you to play a healer?' |
| 10:59.10 | Industrial | nee|work: wtf? is he crazy? |
| 10:59.20 | Industrial | nee|work: and the people.. why pay for a healer thats sad |
| 10:59.22 | Industrial | get a guild |
| 10:59.25 | nee|work | :) |
| 10:59.38 | nee|work | Beats me, the thread goes on about how some proc warriors charge gold too |
| 10:59.49 | Industrial | :S |
| 11:00.12 | Industrial | how about "split the loot" |
| 11:01.43 | nee|work | :) |
| 11:02.52 | Aenslaed | well |
| 11:02.57 | Aenslaed | good prot warriors carry a guild |
| 11:03.13 | Aenslaed | so I'd pay whatever it took to keep one as MT |
| 11:03.17 | kebinusan | ^^^ |
| 11:05.00 | Aenslaed | our current MT is so obsessed with tanking that he doesn't have any dps gear or a two hander and comes to every raid full of tanking consumables |
| 11:05.45 | Industrial | i hatte tenking |
| 11:05.52 | Industrial | I hate tanking* |
| 11:06.01 | Industrial | I like dpsing |
| 11:06.02 | Industrial | :P |
| 11:06.28 | Aenslaed | I enjoy all aspects of it. Tanking in early raid zones like MC and BWL were terrible |
| 11:06.38 | Aenslaed | sit there and sunder/HS |
| 11:06.50 | Aenslaed | but oh man, tanking in naxx was fun. |
| 11:07.40 | Aenslaed | anub, grob, thad, heigan, noth, goth, 4hm. |
| 11:09.08 | Lysithea | naxx is such a great dungeon, too bad it became old content so fast :/ |
| 11:11.44 | Aenslaed | if it came out 2 months earlier and closed beta NDA was never lifted, yeah |
| 11:11.58 | Aenslaed | but so many guilds got only 4-5 months to do it |
| 11:12.31 | nee|work | Hm.. What are those Frozen Shadowweave items for? Who uses Shadow and Frost? |
| 11:12.53 | abbat_w | frost mages or example |
| 11:13.08 | nee|work | They use Shadow? |
| 11:13.12 | Aenslaed | nee|work: not shadow and frost, but shadow or frost |
| 11:13.15 | nee|work | Ah. |
| 11:13.29 | nee|work | So they made the item usable by shadow priests/warlocks/frost mages |
| 11:13.35 | Aenslaed | yes |
| 11:13.48 | nee|work | Nice of them, but a bit odd to see both the stats on one item like that :) |
| 11:13.53 | Aenslaed | not knowing what the item is, it probably has good sta |
| 11:14.38 | nee|work | Quite good stamina, and intellect |
| 11:17.03 | Arrowmaster | Robes of Winter Night have frost and shadow and theyve been in the game forever |
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| 11:21.10 | CIA-17 | IncomingHealsLib: |
| 11:21.10 | CIA-17 | - Merged changes |
| 11:22.13 | CIA-17 | 03tattersail * r26820 10IncomingHeals/ (. IncomingHeals.toc): |
| 11:22.13 | CIA-17 | IncomingHeals: |
| 11:22.13 | CIA-17 | - Merged changes |
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| 11:50.45 | Gamefaq | mhh time for lunch :) |
| 11:51.02 | nee|work | soon here too, in about an hour or so |
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| 12:14.50 | Noobie | Anyone here ahve much experience adding cusom evens to Sct? |
| 12:14.58 | Noobie | *Custom events |
| 12:18.00 | nee|work | what is http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25726 for? 'Comfortable Insoles' |
| 12:18.39 | nee|work | hm. perhaps levelling up Leatherworking |
| 12:22.33 | nee|work | Noobie: Not I. |
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| 12:30.03 | Noobie | Would anyone know how to get mace proc to be displayed through sct |
| 12:30.18 | [Ammo] | there should be examples included in SCT |
| 12:30.23 | [Ammo] | at least there used to be |
| 12:30.24 | [Ammo] | read the files |
| 12:33.30 | Noobie | Yeah i really dont wanna be a hastle, iv given adding it ago seen from this post: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1801.msg68518#msg68518 |
| 12:33.42 | Noobie | but honeslty no matter what i do i cant get it to work |
| 12:37.31 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r26830 10Cartographer/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Cartographer: updated esES |
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| 12:43.19 | sbu | morning |
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| 12:47.06 | abbat_w | Lammo (Ammo's lock) need good mods? :) |
| 12:47.45 | abbat_w | Or Wammo? I know you name you twinks with 'ammo' ;) |
| 12:48.55 | nee|work | Kerblammo |
| 12:49.08 | nee|work | TurningYouIntoJammo |
| 12:49.43 | [Ammo] | abbat_w: my lock is called: Ammo |
| 12:49.50 | [Ammo] | on Kazzak EU |
| 12:50.01 | abbat_w | Ah, it's you main then ;) |
| 12:50.06 | [Ammo] | ofcourse |
| 12:50.16 | [Ammo] | it's been my main since release day |
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| 12:53.04 | haste | :3 |
| 12:53.05 | Chosi | lo |
| 12:53.05 | haste | Kill Zilrion and Cartas for me [Ammo] ! |
| 12:58.09 | Gigaknight- | How can you get a discount on the faster flying mount? |
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| 12:58.49 | [Ammo] | haha haste |
| 12:58.54 | [Ammo] | I met cartas for the first time last week |
| 12:58.56 | [Ammo] | in game that is |
| 12:59.07 | Cartas | Oh |
| 12:59.09 | Cartas | Leifur! |
| 12:59.21 | haste | Leifur is long dead! |
| 13:00.07 | Cartas | Liar. |
| 13:00.14 | kebinusan | I love leaving a little bundle of joy in a guildies mailbox |
| 13:00.28 | kebinusan | just mailed a talor the mats raw mats for 8 imbued netherweave bags <g> |
| 13:01.16 | kebinusan | dont want to be online when she checks her mailbox |
| 13:02.30 | kenlyric | kebinusan: oh, you gave her 8 free bags? that was very nice ;) |
| 13:02.58 | kebinusan | eep |
| 13:03.26 | kebinusan | black morass is pretty good for farming the spider silk |
| 13:06.05 | abbat_w | and leather too i think |
| 13:06.48 | kebinusan | yah |
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| 13:07.16 | kenlyric | man, nobody seems to sell flint and tinder anywhere in the higher outlands zones, and nobody seems to have a fire either. |
| 13:07.25 | Stephmw | Completely OT (unless there's also a wow addon for that), but anyone aware of a flash-based, free, and multi-player scrabble game? |
| 13:10.01 | haste | Cartas: Slorvfetto has been L70 for a couple of days now, and he JUST noticed that he couldn't attack alliance in Shattrath :D |
| 13:12.01 | Noobie | Anyone able to upload there SCT config file with a working Mace proc custom event? |
| 13:15.41 | kebinusan | kenlyric: the scyer vender in shadowmoon valley does |
| 13:15.56 | kebinusan | I think |
| 13:16.01 | kenlyric | kebinusan: just seems odd that they wouldn't sell it with the wood. |
| 13:16.11 | weazer | Where can i find a working link for downloading ag_unitframes? |
| 13:16.15 | kenlyric | course, I guess I expect there to be fires in inns. |
| 13:16.18 | kebinusan | Yeah I know what you mean |
| 13:16.23 | kebinusan | exactly |
| 13:16.31 | kebinusan | there dont really seem to be any cooking fires in outland |
| 13:18.07 | JoshBorke | there are in the bone wastes |
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| 13:22.17 | Warri|pantsu | hi there :D can someone help me with a bug in cartographer ? |
| 13:23.14 | arJUna|wrk | there are no bugs, only undocumented features |
| 13:24.08 | Warri|pantsu | lol |
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| 13:34.26 | xyu | anyone know if quests_fu can automatically track new quests? |
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| 13:37.31 | neenee | Hm. I think it can. I know nQuestLog can though, if you want an alternative :) |
| 13:38.44 | kenlyric | no, it can't. |
| 13:38.56 | xyu | ok |
| 13:38.59 | xyu | i'll check out nQ |
| 13:39.24 | xyu | or i'll just use bliz's |
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| 13:42.08 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r26833 10oRA2/Optional/ (MainTank.lua PlayerTarget.lua): oRA2: paris -> pairs |
| 13:42.58 | xyu | anyone hear play a pally? i have a talent question :D |
| 13:44.42 | CIA-17 | 03felyce * r26834 10ItemRackFu/ItemRackFu.toc: |
| 13:44.42 | CIA-17 | ItemRackFu: |
| 13:44.42 | CIA-17 | - bumped interface version number to 20003 |
| 13:45.59 | Industrial | xyu: just ask :D |
| 13:46.18 | xyu | For a solo leveler should i go straight for seal of command? |
| 13:46.22 | xyu | then dump the rest into holy? |
| 13:46.29 | JoshBorke | dump it all in ret |
| 13:46.32 | xyu | i'm lvl 10 atm :P but would like to form a plan |
| 13:46.42 | xyu | ok |
| 13:46.52 | JoshBorke | you're lvl 10? |
| 13:46.57 | xyu | yeah |
| 13:46.57 | JoshBorke | seriously though, i dunno |
| 13:47.05 | xyu | but i've never played a melee class in my life |
| 13:47.12 | xyu | or hybrid for that matter |
| 13:47.44 | JoshBorke | maybe get the imp str/int in holy |
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| 13:47.44 | xyu | unless you count UO. my only hybrid |
| 13:47.44 | xyu | ok |
| 13:47.48 | xyu | but going straight for blessing of command is correct right? |
| 13:47.57 | xyu | i've heard that thing is pretty overpowered when leveling |
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| 13:48.59 | chutwig | ...blessing of command? |
| 13:49.00 | chutwig | seal of command |
| 13:49.02 | xyu | er seal of command |
| 13:49.03 | xyu | yeah |
| 13:49.18 | chutwig | i prefer SoR for grinding because it's consistent damage |
| 13:49.43 | chutwig | you will probably want to level as protection because when you get reckoning and sanctuary you can AoE grind several mobs at once |
| 13:50.01 | bnovc | anyone know if there is a slash command to cancel a spell you have (ie mind control) |
| 13:50.02 | xyu | i wont be grinding, i'll be questing the whole way |
| 13:50.13 | chutwig | and questing means grinding |
| 13:50.19 | xyu | kk |
| 13:50.22 | Gnarfoz_ | bnovc: /cancelaura ? |
| 13:50.22 | JoshBorke | did you try: /stopcasting? |
| 13:50.24 | Industrial | "Give the paladin a chance to" |
| 13:50.24 | xyu | not where i'm from ^_^ |
| 13:50.26 | Industrial | what chance? |
| 13:50.29 | Industrial | 20%? |
| 13:50.30 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:50.30 | bnovc | JoshBorke: i mean once it's already on someone |
| 13:50.33 | chutwig | it's like 7 ppm |
| 13:50.41 | Industrial | (seal of command) |
| 13:50.46 | bnovc | say i cast mind control and jump tem off a cliff, then I want to cancel it right away |
| 13:50.49 | kenlyric | grinding is what you do when you have no quests left ;) |
| 13:50.54 | Gnarfoz_ | stopcasting would stop channeled spells, I'd think |
| 13:50.59 | xyu | sorry but what is SoR? |
| 13:51.05 | bnovc | Gnarfoz_: alright, thanks |
| 13:51.06 | JoshBorke | SoR is seal of retribution |
| 13:51.07 | chutwig | seal of righteousness |
| 13:51.11 | Industrial | ha |
| 13:51.11 | JoshBorke | erm, righteousness |
| 13:51.15 | JoshBorke | man, i always get that wrong! |
| 13:51.19 | xyu | what tree is that? |
| 13:51.26 | chutwig | it's innate |
| 13:51.27 | JoshBorke | you should already have it |
| 13:51.36 | xyu | oh that |
| 13:51.43 | xyu | :D |
| 13:52.32 | Adirelle|work | A: "- plz feign death when you pull aggro" B: "- feign what ???" |
| 13:52.36 | xyu | hmm i really am not sure how to play this class :/ |
| 13:52.50 | chutwig | you hit things, they die, you heal and repeat |
| 13:53.12 | chutwig | you get in trouble, hit the bubble |
| 13:53.24 | JoshBorke | mostly you turn on auto-attack and alt-tab out |
| 13:53.26 | xyu | i just want efficiency / speed |
| 13:54.07 | JoshBorke | xyu: you have to experiment and find the playstyle that works for you |
| 13:54.07 | chutwig | i maintain that you will have the best luck using protection to level |
| 13:54.08 | chutwig | because levelling is mostly meleeing, whether grinding or doing quests, and protection is best for that |
| 13:54.10 | xyu | ok chut, i'll give it a shot |
| 13:54.17 | chutwig | retribution is more for pvp and really isn't very efficient |
| 13:54.18 | xyu | ok |
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| 13:54.37 | chutwig | and holy is for people like me who have given up on any semblance of fun and just heal all the time |
| 13:54.38 | xyu | i agree there |
| 13:54.50 | xyu | (i'll do that when i'm capped :( |
| 13:55.00 | Nomad_Wanderer | Hi.. Baggins looks like it inherited some changes from PT... I'm trying to find something there.. anyone working on these PT changes around? |
| 13:55.07 | chutwig | are you a blood elf |
| 13:55.09 | JoshBorke | i like healing, but it gimps you while solo |
| 13:55.11 | xyu | i'll give prot a shot. any "must haves" in that tree you can suggest? |
| 13:55.19 | xyu | yes chut |
| 13:55.22 | chutwig | you homo |
| 13:55.26 | xyu | yes |
| 13:55.29 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 13:55.32 | chutwig | redoubt, precision |
| 13:55.44 | chutwig | improved RF is good even if you don't plan to tank because of the -6% to damage |
| 13:55.52 | chutwig | reckoning is invaluable |
| 13:55.55 | xyu | no grouping |
| 13:55.56 | xyu | just me :D |
| 13:55.58 | chutwig | probably the best talent in the tree |
| 13:55.58 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yeah.. Baggins siwtched over to PT3... anyone know How I can select Potions in pt3? I want to select the whole set.. anything that's a potion. |
| 13:56.24 | chutwig | you'll want to use reckoning with a shield and decently fast weapon because it's a flat 10% proc chance |
| 13:56.26 | chutwig | not a ppm |
| 13:56.29 | xyu | redoubt, reck. precision ..got it. |
| 13:56.39 | chutwig | BoSanc too, and holy shield |
| 13:56.41 | xyu | hmm i'm 2h sword :( |
| 13:56.48 | chutwig | it still works with 2h |
| 13:56.54 | xyu | ok |
| 13:56.58 | chutwig | protection is mostly designed for 1h + shield but reckoning with 2h still works |
| 13:57.02 | chutwig | just not as many procs |
| 13:57.11 | xyu | well i'm only lvl 10 i can switch now |
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| 13:57.14 | xyu | but i dont want to lvl new weapons |
| 13:57.17 | xyu | at hihger lvl |
| 13:57.17 | Uhuru | hi |
| 13:57.20 | xyu | for efficiency reasons ^^ |
| 13:57.24 | xyu | sticking w/ one |
| 13:57.27 | xyu | no trade skills |
| 13:57.30 | xyu | gogogog xp |
| 13:57.36 | Uhuru | Is bartender 3 developper here ? |
| 13:58.05 | chutwig | you're going to want to level at least one 1h weapon skill |
| 13:58.35 | xyu | ok |
| 13:58.37 | chutwig | paladins mostly kill through survival |
| 13:58.43 | Uhuru | Hi nevcairiel |
| 13:58.43 | xyu | 1h sword it is |
| 13:58.57 | chutwig | pulling several mobs to you, ret aura + BoSanc + holy shield + redoubt |
| 13:59.04 | xyu | what is BoSanc? |
| 13:59.04 | chutwig | you take almost no damage and the mobs kill themselves meleeing on you |
| 13:59.08 | chutwig | blessing of sanctuary |
| 13:59.10 | xyu | oh |
| 13:59.10 | xyu | n/m |
| 13:59.10 | xyu | blessing of sanc |
| 13:59.11 | xyu | yea |
| 13:59.20 | xyu | kk, |
| 13:59.25 | chutwig | prot is pretty weaksauce against caster mobs so you'll want to keep 2h weapon skill up for that |
| 13:59.38 | Uhuru | someone here use bartender 3 ? |
| 13:59.42 | chutwig | just switch it up back and forth a little bit so that one doesn't fall way behind and you'll be okay |
| 13:59.52 | chutwig | i use ba3 |
| 14:00.10 | xyu | what aura should i keep running for solo grind |
| 14:00.21 | chutwig | against melee, retribution aura |
| 14:00.34 | chutwig | you'll also want a shield spike |
| 14:00.41 | xyu | ok |
| 14:00.51 | chutwig | the idea is that with redoubt and holy shield and some defense your block chance will go up to like 75% |
| 14:00.52 | xyu | oh yeah you said that already |
| 14:01.02 | chutwig | and the mobs will be taking 100-150 damage every time they hit you |
| 14:01.11 | xyu | is holy shield a talent or a spell i get later on? |
| 14:01.13 | CIA-17 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r26835 10Cartographer_Waypoints/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (GuildPoint.lua Notepoint.lua Waypoints.lua): |
| 14:01.14 | CIA-17 | Cartographer |
| 14:01.14 | CIA-17 | - Update of stuff. Cutting down of functions. General code topiary. |
| 14:01.17 | chutwig | holy shield is the talent below BoSanc |
| 14:01.19 | xyu | ahh nice nice |
| 14:01.31 | chutwig | and obviously the damage scales, and every mob attacking you will be receiving that damage |
| 14:01.35 | Uhuru | for the swaping page for differents forms, this is not possible to get the key shortcuts of the choosing bar for this form nor the shortcuts of the primary bar ? |
| 14:01.36 | xyu | so i can pull a bunchj of mobs in an area and just start pinging them down while meleeing |
| 14:01.42 | Uhuru | sorry for my bad english |
| 14:01.43 | chutwig | yeah, that's the idea |
| 14:01.51 | xyu | ok, thanks for the help. i'll try that out. |
| 14:02.24 | chutwig | Uhuru: did you try setting your keybindings in the Bartender 3 section rather than in the blizzard bar keybinding section |
| 14:02.42 | Tornhoof | uhuru, nevcairiel is afk |
| 14:02.51 | Uhuru | chutwig yes but in form the bar have the primary bar shortcuts in all case |
| 14:03.00 | chutwig | ah |
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| 14:03.07 | chutwig | i don't use it with any classes that have stances |
| 14:03.11 | chutwig | xyu: so basically all you do is pull a bunch of mobs, use holy shield repeatedly, and keep attacking them one at a time |
| 14:03.27 | xyu | ok |
| 14:03.33 | Uhuru | i will wait for nevcairiel to ask him if this is possible to change this |
| 14:03.53 | chutwig | with 4 or 5 mobs beating on you redoubt and reckoning will be up the whole time |
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| 14:06.01 | CIA-17 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 14:06.01 | CIA-17 | - Added subgroup weighting based on number of healers, main tanks, and melee classes in each group. |
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| 14:11.14 | CIA-17 | item2phpBB: |
| 14:11.14 | CIA-17 | - update deDE |
| 14:12.17 | CIA-17 | 03mok * r26839 10GemList/ (GemList.lua localization.lua): |
| 14:12.17 | CIA-17 | GemList: |
| 14:12.17 | CIA-17 | - update frFR |
| 14:12.17 | CIA-17 | - bugfix: Help text not sent |
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| 14:27.25 | Adirelle|work | Mok: GemList seems neat |
| 14:28.21 | CIA-17 | 03mok * r26840 10GemList/GemList.lua: |
| 14:28.21 | CIA-17 | GemList: |
| 14:28.21 | CIA-17 | - added GemList:test() for testing. seems GetTradeSkillItemStats doesnt work for gems ): |
| 14:29.17 | Mok | Adirelle|work: thanks :) i'm just cant find out how to get the tooltip text of the gems for searching their description |
| 14:31.26 | Adirelle|work | get the item link then use Gratuity-2.0 |
| 14:31.47 | Adirelle|work | Well, just use Gratuity-2.0 in fact ;) |
| 14:33.20 | Adirelle|work | the :SetCraftItem and :Find methods should get the job done |
| 14:33.21 | Mok | :) |
| 14:33.52 | Mok | ya i didnt use any crafting lobs until now, because i think they do more than i need |
| 14:34.17 | Adirelle|work | well, Gratuity is just tooltip scanning |
| 14:34.20 | Mok | im thinking about converting gemlist to a general crafting addon, then i will make excess use of stitch |
| 14:34.27 | Mok | ok |
| 14:35.00 | Mok | ill take a look |
| 14:35.26 | Adirelle|work | you should talk with Antiarc, he's working on something like GemList, but for any tradeskill |
| 14:35.52 | Ordog | http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uiok6.jpg <- is that blue light at the top bar actually moving? |
| 14:36.05 | Ordog | always wondered what addon that is |
| 14:36.15 | Mok | ya, i heard that. |
| 14:36.25 | Ordog | its fubar + skin or sth? |
| 14:38.28 | Xabin | Ordog: FuBar_FuXPFu |
| 14:39.23 | xyu | something in my addon is doing something very strange (helpfull i know) has anyone else ran across this problem: |
| 14:39.42 | xyu | "No player named 'xxxxx' is currently playing." |
| 14:39.46 | xyu | every 60 seconds or so |
| 14:39.47 | xyu | over and over |
| 14:39.53 | xyu | for no reason |
| 14:40.12 | Adirelle|work | looks like an addon tries to whisper xxxxx |
| 14:40.32 | xyu | I can't think of what would be trying to do that. o_O |
| 14:40.57 | [Ammo] | *inno* |
| 14:41.05 | [Ammo] | muahahaa |
| 14:41.07 | _neuron_ | [Ammo], is your warlock thing becoming usable? |
| 14:41.13 | xyu | >_< !! |
| 14:41.13 | Adirelle|work | search for SendChatMessage in your addon directory |
| 14:41.24 | [Ammo] | neuron: no idea, I did drycoding again |
| 14:41.27 | _neuron_ | hehe |
| 14:41.28 | [Ammo] | but I used what I had last night |
| 14:41.40 | _neuron_ | it's on my todo list to check it out ;) |
| 14:41.49 | [Ammo] | I don't use in combat lockdown yet |
| 14:42.14 | Adirelle|work | WTB permission to sleep at work |
| 14:42.33 | Teshnor | WTS sleep at work for work |
| 14:42.37 | Teshnor | :D |
| 14:45.45 | Uhuru | one of my add on block automaticly the trade ask and i don't know which is this :/ |
| 14:46.55 | Stephmw | Uhuru: check your Interface options, some users have reported this setting's spontaneously switched itself on after TBC |
| 14:48.13 | Ordog | thx Xabin |
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| 14:50.03 | Uhuru | Stephmw you're right, i searched for hours ... lol thank's |
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| 14:51.14 | Stephmw | Uhuru: np :) |
| 14:51.41 | [Ammo] | it could be Postal that does that |
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| 14:55.06 | Bruners | ckknight: there |
| 14:55.58 | kagaro | mok: does gemlist have all the gems listed for translations? |
| 14:56.20 | Mok | kagaro: what do you mean? |
| 14:56.39 | kagaro | meaning translations for ruby and what not ? |
| 14:56.53 | Mok | no. i get the gems color via the icon |
| 14:57.45 | Mok | there are only 2 icons per color |
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| 15:07.19 | CIA-17 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 15:07.19 | CIA-17 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 15:07.19 | CIA-17 | - Converted Locale-koKR.lua to a real UTF-8 file |
| 15:08.07 | Grine | damn, out of prepaid again... |
| 15:08.42 | neenee | I have one left and am using direct debit |
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| 15:09.15 | Grine | give it to me ;) |
| 15:09.19 | Grine | you know you want too :P |
| 15:09.29 | neenee | :) |
| 15:10.01 | Grine | or I'll have to go to EB and pay up... |
| 15:10.07 | Grine | cause VISA hates me |
| 15:10.16 | steev64 | get a card at compusa or wal*mart |
| 15:10.50 | steev64 | after the BC fiasco with EB, I refuse to shop there any longer |
| 15:11.19 | Grine | no fiasco here, though I'm not going to EB really |
| 15:11.27 | Grine | GAME for me I think |
| 15:11.32 | Grine | no walmart in sweden :P |
| 15:11.41 | steev64 | lucky you |
| 15:12.04 | art3mis | heh yeah im not shopping amazon either |
| 15:12.08 | art3mis | because of tbc |
| 15:12.40 | steev64 | i called them, day or two after BC was released, and the chick said they had "plenty" of copies of BC - and I made sure to repeat 5 times that i did *not* pre-order, and she kept saying they had "plenty" of copies, no worries |
| 15:12.56 | steev64 | so I get there, and was told, oh, we only had 4 copies and we sold out of them hours ago |
| 15:12.58 | art3mis | although bitching at them constant got my s&h refunded recieved it next day AM shipping and got a 10$ credit on my account |
| 15:16.43 | steev64 | i was moderately upset with them |
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| 15:17.12 | Grine | I preordered and walked in the day after to pick up the game |
| 15:17.18 | Grine | smoothsailing all the way |
| 15:17.33 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26842 10nQuestLog/ (7 files in 2 dirs): nQuestLog : Redesigning quest objective system, and adding module SmartVisibility |
| 15:17.35 | Tain | That's why I don't call stores any more to ask their inventory. The clerks don't care, they'll tell you whatever to get you in the door. |
| 15:17.47 | Mok_ | Adirelle|work, i unfortunately get an error when using Gratuity http://ace.pastey.net/5809 |
| 15:17.51 | Tain | Of course I just went to Best Buy where they had dozens on the shelf. |
| 15:18.15 | yacoob | tbh, I haven't seen tbc shortage |
| 15:18.39 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26843 10Cartographer_Stats/ (Cartographer_Stats.toc libs/): Cartographer_Stats: Added Babble dependencies |
| 15:18.42 | Tain | There isn't one. There's plenty out there. |
| 15:19.07 | Tain | A lot of people went to Gamestop and Electronics Boutique type places so those small shops sold out, but the big retail stores have plenty. |
| 15:20.37 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26844 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua: Cartographer_Stats: updated code to use Babble for translations |
| 15:22.38 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26845 10nQuestLog/modules/SmartVisibility.lua: nQuestLog : Removing debug code |
| 15:25.07 | Adirelle|work | hmm: how do you try to use it ? |
| 15:25.19 | kenlyric | lol... all played says I have 159% rest... I rule! |
| 15:25.46 | Adirelle|work | s/hmm/Mok/ |
| 15:26.52 | Adirelle|work | Mok: did you take a look at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Gratuity-2.0 ? |
| 15:28.20 | rpowers_ | is there a wowace bugzilla or similar website where we can post bugs in ace addons? |
| 15:30.08 | Mok_ | Adirelle|work: yap. i thougt i have to :Erase before first use.. that was incorrect :) |
| 15:30.16 | Mok_ | it works now |
| 15:30.46 | Adirelle|work | fine |
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| 15:33.06 | art3mis | hrm vchat isnt buggy |
| 15:33.11 | art3mis | it's just kinna crappy ;P |
| 15:34.49 | Industrial | l2codenublol |
| 15:34.53 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:35.36 | art3mis | heh |
| 15:35.45 | art3mis | yeah but why code something if someone has already made it ;P |
| 15:36.02 | art3mis | zomgbox appearantly uses ace2 libs |
| 15:36.07 | art3mis | and eepanels is ace2 |
| 15:36.29 | art3mis | so if i merge them(since zomg scales based on ui) i can get the panel creation tool i want |
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| 15:36.37 | art3mis | thats my task this weekend |
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| 15:37.14 | art3mis | it kind of bugs me that most ace stuff uses absolute placemtn and not % scaling |
| 15:37.27 | art3mis | but ill make do ;) |
| 15:38.26 | CIA-17 | 03beerke * r26846 10KingOfTheJungle/Locales/KingOfTheJungle-esES.lua: |
| 15:38.27 | CIA-17 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 15:38.27 | CIA-17 | - Spanish locale fix |
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| 15:43.18 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:43.31 | Industrial | because you can do it better, and it will be exactly what you need |
| 15:43.51 | Industrial | and you will only need to do it once and never 'decide to use something else' again. |
| 15:44.06 | Industrial | been using my own crap for 1.5 years now, works fine :D |
| 15:44.49 | [Ammo] | with emphasis on crap :p |
| 15:44.52 | [Ammo] | *cackles* |
| 15:45.11 | Industrial | -.-' |
| 15:46.19 | [Ammo] | :) |
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| 15:48.22 | krka | i tend to browse through other addons code before i decide it's crap and write my own |
| 15:49.29 | Industrial | yea |
| 15:50.36 | Chosi | hey kagaro, you there? |
| 15:50.41 | kagaro | yup |
| 15:50.50 | Chosi | got some time to look into that stats issue again? :) |
| 15:50.59 | kagaro | yeah |
| 15:51.13 | Chosi | we could do that via query too |
| 15:51.14 | kagaro | the only conclusion I can come up with is your imported notes are in the wrong database |
| 15:51.26 | Chosi | so, how do i get them into the correct one |
| 15:51.35 | Chosi | and how do i prevent them to get into the incorrect one again? |
| 15:52.10 | Chosi | note that everything i did was load the import plugin WITH the mining plugin active aswell |
| 15:52.13 | kagaro | you should in theory be able to relog in and cart should migrate it to the right db. To prevent it again, when you import you need the mining/herb modules activated. |
| 15:52.30 | kagaro | it may simply be a bug in the import module putting them in the wrong db |
| 15:52.45 | kagaro | what version of gatherer data did you use ? |
| 15:52.45 | Chosi | where are the dbs stored? |
| 15:52.50 | Chosi | i could check them |
| 15:53.03 | Industrial | wow/wtf/ |
| 15:53.06 | kagaro | in your WTF folder. they should all be in CartographerMiningDB |
| 15:54.15 | Chosi | i don't have such a file |
| 15:54.26 | Industrial | browse. |
| 15:54.34 | Chosi | i just did a search. |
| 15:55.26 | nahkiss | hmm, any idea why I'm getting this error: http://ace.pastey.net/5813 ? |
| 15:55.47 | kagaro | exact name: Cartographer_Mining.lua |
| 15:56.03 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26847 10nQuestLog/modules/DetailsFrame.lua: nQuestLog : Update quest frame directly instead of scheduling an event |
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| 15:56.16 | kagaro | WTF/Account/<Account name>/SavedVariables |
| 15:56.57 | Chosi | [2007/02/01 16:55:14-62-x11]: Cartographer_Stats\Cartographer_Stats.lua:524: AceLocale(Cartographer_Mining): Translation "Rich Adamantite" does not exist. |
| 15:56.58 | Chosi | Oo |
| 15:57.01 | Chosi | hold on a sec |
| 15:57.16 | kagaro | Chosi: update your cart mining, I reworked it yesterday |
| 15:57.29 | kagaro | along with babble-ore |
| 15:57.31 | kergoth | i got bit by that with briarthorn last night, after updating _herbalism |
| 15:57.59 | kagaro | kergoth: just missing a translation here and there then |
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| 15:58.42 | fatbrain | wow on debian-beryl was cool ^^ |
| 15:58.46 | kergoth | _stats is nifty btw, i hadnt tried it before last night.. or rather i did, but wasnt sure how to open the stats frame, since my cart has 0% alpha on the frame, never saw the instructions :P |
| 15:59.14 | kagaro | heh |
| 15:59.15 | kergoth | maybe add a 'toggle frame' to the stats aceoptions, for the confused like myself |
| 15:59.53 | kagaro | good idea |
| 16:00.08 | kagaro | did your briarthorn issue go away ? |
| 16:00.26 | kergoth | it may have been fixed, didnt update everything before bed |
| 16:00.35 | kagaro | ahh |
| 16:00.39 | Chosi | kergoth: updating mining didn't change a thing :| |
| 16:00.39 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:00.42 | kergoth | :( |
| 16:00.47 | Chosi | still FATALITY |
| 16:00.48 | Chosi | :> |
| 16:00.49 | Antiarc|Work | Mornin', folks. |
| 16:00.53 | kagaro | Chosi: update your babble |
| 16:01.06 | Chosi | shall i use standalone babble or should i update the libs? |
| 16:01.48 | kagaro | no clue how you are setup, all you need is an updated Babble-Ore-2.2 in your path (your in the de client right)? |
| 16:01.58 | Chosi | yup |
| 16:02.31 | kagaro | ["Rich Adamantite"] = "Reiches Adamantium", is there in Babble-Ore so just update it, however your got it setup |
| 16:02.37 | Chosi | replaced |
| 16:02.41 | kagaro | it got added in last night |
| 16:02.41 | Chosi | lemme recheck |
| 16:03.08 | kagaro | kergoth: im gona redo stats to account for my updates soon, and add some more features to it |
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| 16:03.51 | Chosi | http://pastey.net/5815 |
| 16:04.02 | Chosi | i replaced the babble in mining/libs with the latest one |
| 16:04.05 | Chosi | no changes |
| 16:04.10 | Chosi | the babble ore that is |
| 16:04.48 | kagaro | oh Chosi, update your cart stats |
| 16:05.01 | neenee | Chosi: No problems here yet since I downgraded/reset my drivers :) |
| 16:05.27 | Chosi | oh there's a new lib folder :P |
| 16:05.39 | kagaro | yeah, i updated stats this morning for babble translations |
| 16:06.17 | Chosi | yay works. but still the wrong data ;) |
| 16:07.01 | Chosi | only 110 lines in Cartographer_Mining |
| 16:07.12 | Chosi | sooo where are the others? |
| 16:07.14 | Chosi | *search* |
| 16:07.37 | Chosi | gatherer.lua |
| 16:07.38 | Chosi | o/ |
| 16:07.54 | kagaro | Chosi: sounds like it didnt actually import the data then |
| 16:07.59 | Chosi | correct |
| 16:08.35 | Chosi | well you know what my cartographer looked like |
| 16:08.38 | Chosi | with all the ore on the map |
| 16:08.53 | Chosi | and i seriously doubt gatherer draws them onto the cartographer |
| 16:08.54 | kagaro | so you still have Gatherer active then ? |
| 16:09.06 | Chosi | because it didn't in the beginning |
| 16:09.08 | kagaro | Chosi: it will if you still have it on |
| 16:09.12 | kergoth | Chosi: cartographer is still the world map, it will show them on it |
| 16:09.17 | Chosi | damn |
| 16:09.23 | Chosi | what does import do then? |
| 16:09.30 | kergoth | pull it into cart so you dont need gatherer at all |
| 16:09.37 | Chosi | see, i still wanna get the notes from guildmates that send them via gatherer |
| 16:09.48 | Chosi | maybe noteshare could capture those notes |
| 16:09.56 | Industrial | :D |
| 16:09.59 | Chosi | and write them into the Mining file |
| 16:10.01 | kergoth | doubt it, probably uses a different protocol / comm method |
| 16:10.07 | kergoth | could probably write an adapter of sorts |
| 16:10.17 | kergoth | Industrial: thatd kick ass. |
| 16:10.17 | Chosi | well [x] enable gatherer support |
| 16:10.18 | Mikma | Industrial: i added that to requested features when ckknight started to work on cart ;) |
| 16:10.20 | Industrial | Cartographer_Yatlas mmmm :o~~~ |
| 16:10.38 | vhaarr | Chosi: Just get them all to switch. |
| 16:10.43 | Chosi | haha |
| 16:10.46 | Chosi | :/ |
| 16:10.59 | Industrial | kergoth: question, What does _noteshare use from _POI ? |
| 16:11.02 | kergoth | caribou coffee sells granola bars in the grocery store now, with coffee beans and chocolate.. most yummy, felt the need to share that |
| 16:11.14 | neenee | :) |
| 16:11.16 | Chosi | received note from kergoth |
| 16:11.21 | neenee | I've seen caribous in Alaska once |
| 16:11.21 | Chosi | granola bars on 52,32 |
| 16:11.25 | kergoth | all _POI does is records locations guards point you to. thats it. i doubt noteshare does anything with it specifically |
| 16:11.36 | Industrial | needed it :S |
| 16:11.39 | kergoth | need to add that option to make poi points temporary, session lcoal |
| 16:11.48 | Industrial | yes! |
| 16:11.50 | Industrial | :D |
| 16:11.50 | Chosi | kergoth: so, to import notes from gatherer, gatherer must be unloaded? |
| 16:12.00 | kergoth | after importing, thatd be the idea, yes |
| 16:12.08 | Chosi | well it's not importing as you know |
| 16:12.12 | Chosi | :\ |
| 16:12.16 | Mikma | Industrial: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer/Wish_List <- search for yatlas :P |
| 16:12.31 | kergoth | is this the new gatherer betas? i'm not sure if _import can handle the new format database |
| 16:13.27 | Chosi | it is kerg |
| 16:13.30 | Chosi | that must be it |
| 16:14.05 | Chosi | i'll just leave cart mining be :) |
| 16:14.10 | Chosi | and well, bye stats |
| 16:14.16 | Chosi | until that werks |
| 16:15.03 | Chosi | thanks for your help anyways :) |
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| 16:15.12 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26848 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua: Cartographer_Stats: added menu option to toggle the frame |
| 16:15.19 | kergoth | sorry it took so long to make that determination :P |
| 16:15.22 | Barbanus | kergoth, I like the poi notes being there ... |
| 16:15.23 | kergoth | we shouldve caught it sooner |
| 16:15.28 | kergoth | Barbanus: itll be optional |
| 16:15.34 | kagaro | Chosi: I havent looked at the new gatherer db format enough to be able to add support in stats for it |
| 16:15.42 | kergoth | i like them permanent too, for things like the scryer bank which i always forget the location of |
| 16:15.43 | Barbanus | I now know exactly where the BS trainer, and the bank is in that fucked up shatt city :P |
| 16:15.46 | kergoth | but temp was requested |
| 16:15.48 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:15.50 | Barbanus | hehe |
| 16:15.53 | Industrial | Barbanus: I dont :( together with the other modules you have two points for vendors and trainers and all that |
| 16:16.12 | Barbanus | well maybe it needs to be smarter ... |
| 16:16.22 | CIA-17 | 03mok * r26849 10GemList/ (. GemList.lua GemList.toc): |
| 16:16.22 | CIA-17 | GemList: |
| 16:16.23 | CIA-17 | - added Gratuity to do tooltip scanning |
| 16:16.23 | CIA-17 | - hope search for description works now |
| 16:16.25 | Industrial | nah, its just duplicate functionality |
| 16:16.32 | kergoth | i suppose.. was trying to keep it simple, take the string from the guard and shovel it onto the map |
| 16:16.40 | kergoth | but really those strings piss me off anyway |
| 16:16.45 | kergoth | there's no standard format |
| 16:16.49 | kergoth | differs from city to city |
| 16:16.52 | Barbanus | I like the fact that it shows me where the bank is .. all of the time |
| 16:17.11 | Chosi | kergoth: the banks are on the map. those ugly alien ships |
| 16:17.15 | Industrial | Barbanus: but a trainer only has a name, and doesnt tell you what he trains ;) |
| 16:17.19 | Chosi | :> |
| 16:17.27 | Industrial | so the POI's being temporary would be cool :o |
| 16:17.32 | kergoth | pfft, i like having a mapnote dangit |
| 16:17.40 | Barbanus | maybe make it smart in the sense that trainers and vendors are temp, since they should be recorded by the trainer / vendor module if you have them |
| 16:17.42 | Diabolic-Destiny | anyone use PlayerMenu? |
| 16:17.59 | Diabolic-Destiny | i'd like to commit a feature that is to allow guild invite |
| 16:18.02 | kergoth | Industrial: perhaps we could make them temporary by default, but have a right click option in the note to store it permanently |
| 16:18.13 | Industrial | right |
| 16:18.14 | Diabolic-Destiny | but id like help making the code to allow this |
| 16:18.28 | Barbanus | But having a perm one for the bank, BG guys, etc, is nice for me. |
| 16:18.30 | kergoth | thatd probably be easier to implement than parsing those non-standard formatted strings of what the location is |
| 16:18.58 | Barbanus | or maybe I just need to help write a bank module :P |
| 16:19.42 | CIA-17 | 03mok * r26850 10GemList/GemList.toc: |
| 16:19.42 | CIA-17 | GemList: |
| 16:19.42 | CIA-17 | - fix TOC |
| 16:19.45 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26851 10nQuestLog/ (QuestLogFrame.xml core.lua events.lua): nQuestLog : Altclick to show/hide quest objectives added and smarter highlighting |
| 16:20.10 | kergoth | Barbanus: not a bad idea. we have trainers, vendors, flight masters (inflight).. there isnt much remaining that the guards can point you to |
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| 16:20.24 | _neuron_ | kergoth, inflight is broken btw :P, doesn't register it's database |
| 16:20.25 | Industrial | inn |
| 16:20.25 | kergoth | though _poi would still be nice for temporary points when you dont have those modules installed |
| 16:20.29 | Industrial | weapon master |
| 16:20.44 | _neuron_ | it's been on my todo list for ages to track down whoever made it and have him fix it :P |
| 16:20.56 | kergoth | _neuron_: what do you mean? |
| 16:21.04 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.04 | kergoth | InFlight.lua: Cartographer_Notes:RegisterNotesDatabase("InFlight", db.poidata[UnitFactionGroup("player")], self) |
| 16:21.06 | _neuron_ | give me 2 sec kergoth |
| 16:21.10 | kergoth | looks like it does to me, at first glance anyway |
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| 16:21.26 | kergoth | and the notes do show up |
| 16:21.34 | kergoth | or is it storing them in the wrong db? |
| 16:21.40 | _neuron_ | InFlight-2.0.31\InFlight.lua:283: Database "InFlight" not registered. |
| 16:21.46 | kergoth | not getting that here |
| 16:22.11 | _neuron_ | I'm on the latest version |
| 16:22.18 | kergoth | i'm on current svn |
| 16:22.27 | kergoth | Merged From: /ace/mirror/trunk/InFlight, Rev. 31705 |
| 16:22.35 | _neuron_ | rev 31705? :P |
| 16:22.37 | kergoth | course thats an svk revision, but you get the point |
| 16:22.44 | _neuron_ | I'm on latest from files.wowace.com |
| 16:22.47 | _neuron_ | rev r26541 |
| 16:23.18 | kergoth | /media/crydee/Games/wow/Interface/AddOns/InFlight$ svk propget svk:merge . |
| 16:23.18 | kergoth | 48e1f902-e210-0410-a839-a0138e9d5bd5:/trunk/InFlight:26541 |
| 16:23.25 | kergoth | same, not getting any errors here :| |
| 16:23.41 | _neuron_ | I've been getting it for ages :P |
| 16:23.42 | kergoth | is one of its libs erroring or something, preventing it from getting that far? |
| 16:23.52 | kergoth | i get 0/0 in bugsack atm |
| 16:23.53 | _neuron_ | not getting any bugsack errors other than that |
| 16:23.58 | _neuron_ | I got 1/1 and that's the one |
| 16:23.59 | kergoth | weird |
| 16:24.08 | kergoth | well, as i pointed out above, it does call RegisterNotesDatabase |
| 16:24.48 | kenlyric | I remember it breaking for me too, which is why I switch to tofu |
| 16:25.08 | _neuron_ | tofu doesn't have a pretty bar unless you have a bar mod it supports though |
| 16:25.08 | kergoth | maybe its a certain combination of circumstances.. i already had data in my db, i'll try resetting my savedvars |
| 16:25.13 | jkw | Where do I post a feature request for the Prat devs? :] |
| 16:25.25 | kergoth | trac, probably |
| 16:25.55 | [Ammo] | hey kergoth |
| 16:25.59 | [Ammo] | I won't rip your head off :p |
| 16:26.01 | kenlyric | _neuron_: tis true. |
| 16:26.08 | [Ammo] | was kinda suprised my update was getting libs |
| 16:26.10 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 16:26.34 | Barbanus | kergoth, sorry, needed to get coffee. Honestly, if they want permenant points, thats really what the modules should be for, not POI. POI is for them to find the place, and then the module should store it ... I should look at the modules, and see how hard it would be to make a bank one :P |
| 16:26.45 | Fisker- | oh would i wnt to rip peoples head off |
| 16:26.47 | kergoth | hehe. sorry, i dont use standalones atm, but i wanted to switch to it from acolyte :) |
| 16:27.30 | kergoth | Barbanus: actually... here's an idea.. create a temporary mapnote/waypoint, popping up the arrow and everything, when you talk to the guard |
| 16:27.39 | kergoth | Barbanus: rely entirely on the other modules to record the location permanently |
| 16:27.43 | [Ammo] | kergoth: it's not very complete atm :) |
| 16:27.46 | [Ammo] | but it's getting there |
| 16:27.48 | Barbanus | kergoth, exactly. |
| 16:27.50 | [Ammo] | added some drycoding today |
| 16:27.54 | kergoth | no worries, my lock is like level 3 ;) |
| 16:27.57 | [Ammo] | for highlights when you have a spellstone equipped etc |
| 16:28.00 | jkw | bleh trac was wierd :S |
| 16:29.15 | [Ammo] | and started work on the minion summon button |
| 16:29.22 | [Ammo] | but I'll have to debug my drycode :) |
| 16:29.53 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r26852 10Prat/modules/ChatButtons.lua: Prat: Fix annoying bug in the chat menu hide/unhide code |
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| 16:31.44 | sylvanaar | jkw you can use the google tracker linked on the wiki page |
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| 16:32.38 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26853 10nQuestLog/ (QuestLogFrame.xml events.lua): nQuestLog : Shift+rightclick = link quest objectives individually |
| 16:32.42 | kergoth | Barbanus: should make a list of what npcs the guards can direct you to, and make a cartographer_miscnpcs or something :P |
| 16:33.03 | Tain | Wow Autobar using PT3 breaks things horribly for me. |
| 16:33.33 | vhaarr | ckknight_: ping |
| 16:34.04 | vhaarr | Tain: Using the branch? It doesn't have any externals set. |
| 16:34.11 | vhaarr | Tain: Other than that, it should work fine. |
| 16:34.17 | _neuron_ | what's PT3? |
| 16:34.20 | Tain | Nope! Breaks. |
| 16:34.23 | _neuron_ | a branched version? |
| 16:34.29 | Barbanus | good idea kergoth |
| 16:34.32 | Tain | Not in branch. |
| 16:35.01 | vhaarr | Where, then, does the trunk use PT3 now? |
| 16:35.05 | _neuron_ | kergoth, did you try inflight without a database? did it work? |
| 16:35.18 | kergoth | i'm at work atm :P |
| 16:35.21 | _neuron_ | ah :P |
| 16:35.30 | Tain | Evidently, although the toc doesn't load PT3 right (paths are all wrong). |
| 16:35.37 | Tain | But after fixing that half my inventory icons don't appear. |
| 16:35.53 | kergoth | found a bug in baggins that makes me sad :( |
| 16:36.14 | kergoth | i created a bag with backpack, bag1, bag2, bag3, bag4, and keyring, have a seperate keyring, and have a categorized all-in-one |
| 16:36.23 | kergoth | after creating the "blizzard" bag, the all in one no longer shows a ton of stuff |
| 16:36.25 | Barbanus | Tain, have you restarted wow completely? |
| 16:36.29 | kergoth | even with item duplication hiding unchecked |
| 16:36.30 | Tain | Yes, always. |
| 16:36.35 | kergoth | still see no gathered goods like leather now |
| 16:36.53 | Tain | Then just to be sure, logged out, disabled Autobar, everything's normal. |
| 16:41.59 | Tain | You know I'm never one to recommend people always updating their addons from the latest SVN. Active development, work in progress, sometimes bugs, etc. But for the love of whoever at least commit TOCs pointing at actual files. |
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| 16:42.25 | _neuron_ | kergoth, found the problem, inflight loads before Cartographer_Notes for me, so it never registers the carto database. |
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| 16:42.42 | _neuron_ | kergoth, are you the author/wanna fix this btw? |
| 16:43.34 | Barbanus | Doesnt wow load things alphabetical? |
| 16:43.42 | _neuron_ | Barbanus, sometimes :P |
| 16:43.52 | _neuron_ | I believe the !!!Libs system was killed off because it was unreliable |
| 16:43.59 | Barbanus | I've never had it not ... |
| 16:44.06 | _neuron_ | well, I have ;) |
| 16:45.00 | Tain | WoW loads alphabetically on a good number of configurations, I'd guess most. But not all. |
| 16:45.07 | pastamancer | aha, newproxy() |
| 16:45.27 | Tain | And the !!!Libs system should have been killed off because it was a bad idea. |
| 16:45.29 | _neuron_ | this one in particular I think is based on the api a level over it, and for me disk position decides load order, not the alphabet |
| 16:45.45 | _neuron_ | and I think atleast on mac that's the way as well (I'm on wine) |
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| 16:48.40 | Sheathe | Hey all |
| 16:49.22 | winkiller | my fubar "right position" stuff flows over to left of the bar |
| 16:49.31 | winkiller | outside the screen - anyone ever had that? |
| 16:50.49 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r26854 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2.lua: |
| 16:50.49 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:50.50 | CIA-17 | - updated localization koKR |
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| 16:53.01 | sbu | Mok_: tooltip scanning works |
| 16:53.19 | Mok_ | great :D |
| 16:53.55 | _neuron_ | wth, if I do "## Dependencies: Cartographer_Notes" in InFlight.toc it still says Cartographer_Notes is nil OnInitialize |
| 16:53.59 | kergoth | s/svn$/forum/ |
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| 16:54.19 | Diamanti | lo |
| 16:54.24 | kergoth | _neuron_: not the inflight dev, just interested in its state |
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| 16:54.46 | _neuron_ | kergoth, can you explain to me why my local changes dont work :P |
| 16:54.55 | sbu | Mok_: some more ideas... %-) |
| 16:54.58 | sbu | interested? |
| 16:55.01 | _neuron_ | hm, maybe blizzard doesn't scan dependencies on reloadui.. |
| 16:55.08 | CIA-17 | 03benumbed * r26855 10Epeen/modules/KoSAlert.lua: Epeen - Fixed Minor Bug |
| 16:55.23 | kergoth | pastamancer: http://covenant.kergoth.com/svn/misc/trunk/luabits/proxy.lua .. from ages ago when i first found out about newproxy.. hehe. it can be a useful tool |
| 16:55.35 | kergoth | pastamancer: the main annoyance i've found is that the table.* methods choke on the proxy since its a userdata |
| 16:55.41 | _neuron_ | ignore me, I'm an idiot, figured it out |
| 16:55.44 | Mok_ | sbu: always. |
| 16:55.45 | _neuron_ | helps editing the files in the wow dir |
| 16:56.36 | Diamanti | *g* |
| 16:57.06 | Diamanti | Anyone got a fix for SacredBuff? |
| 16:58.09 | kergoth | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4497.20 - heh |
| 16:58.25 | deltron | kergoth: you starting more shit? |
| 16:59.05 | Elkano | does epeen support sharing of the KoS list between eg guild members? |
| 16:59.13 | kergoth | no, responding to people continuing to bitch about it |
| 16:59.19 | deltron | :) |
| 16:59.19 | CIA-17 | 03sano 07PT3 * r26856 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.lua MendeleevCats.lua): |
| 16:59.19 | CIA-17 | Mendeleev - PT3: Updated to be a bit more functional. Now displays all the |
| 16:59.19 | CIA-17 | sets an item belongs to. Added an item quality filter for infosets (Basically, |
| 16:59.19 | CIA-17 | I don't really care which instance bosses drop Runecloth.) Removed the legacy |
| 16:59.19 | CIA-17 | KC_Items code since it is being updated. |
| 16:59.47 | deltron | lol that's one of the best comments ever |
| 16:59.56 | Diamanti | hmm, ah found the problem myself with sacredBuff, now just to find out how to fix it ^-^ |
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| 17:02.25 | CIA-17 | 03sano * r26857 10LoggerHead/LoggerHead.toc: LoggerHead: updated toc version |
| 17:03.42 | deltron | heh I renamed my karma FTW/FTL on sanctuary-guild.org |
| 17:03.47 | deltron | but disabled it after it was abused |
| 17:04.03 | Scre3m | is the dev of the HoT candy bars here per chance? |
| 17:04.41 | Barbanus | kergoth, the main issue is that people do not realize that these "mismatched line endings" could of been that way for MONTHS |
| 17:05.04 | Barbanus | For example, SCT, I bet the mismatched ones can be sent back many months to when some other author commited something |
| 17:05.38 | Groll | soem cartographer bug me thinks http://ace.pastey.net/5818 |
| 17:05.54 | kergoth | we've probably got stuff in svn that hasnt been touched in 6 months |
| 17:06.05 | deltron | can't you just go and check commit history? |
| 17:06.12 | kergoth | i'm not going to email every dev to get their permission to fix something thats related to svn maintainance |
| 17:06.41 | Barbanus | deltron, you could, yea. |
| 17:06.41 | Chosi | !startvote what's the greatest ace2 addon of all times? |
| 17:06.48 | kergoth | not that it matters much now anyway, this sort of wipely scoped thing isnt likely to happen again |
| 17:07.20 | kergoth | aceitembid hasnt been touched since april of 06.. |
| 17:07.28 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 17:08.02 | CIA-17 | 03sano * r26858 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ClosetGnome_Zone.lua: ClosetGnome_Zone: Fixed a small bug where the current zone wasn't being correctly set in the FuBar menu on load. |
| 17:08.28 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle * r26859 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: Cartographer_Quests: attempt to fix the "attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'level'" error (probably due to old notes). |
| 17:09.13 | Groll | Adirelle|work not sure if this goes for you but take a look? :P http://ace.pastey.net/5818 |
| 17:10.31 | Adirelle|work | Grol: indeed, not for me, Cartographer_Stats is out of date in regard to Cartographer_Mining |
| 17:10.53 | Groll | ah so it's stats that needs updating? |
| 17:11.03 | Gagorian | kergoth: Btw, you can use default blizzard tooltip colors in DrDamage tooltips |
| 17:11.05 | Uhuru | someone knows a ace2 addon like group buttons ? |
| 17:11.13 | Gagorian | Just set it on in options |
| 17:11.14 | Groll | but it bugs out everythign it seems, like instance notes etc |
| 17:11.19 | Uhuru | or non ace2 ... |
| 17:12.11 | Adirelle|work | Groll: yes, Kagaro updated Mining and Herbalism, they now uses Babble-Ores and Babble-Herbs instead of having their own translation tables (which Stats seems to rely upon) |
| 17:13.11 | Uhuru | someone knows a add on who allow to add buttons to each group member frame compatible with ag_unitframes ? |
| 17:13.19 | Barbanus | Uhuru, I use Clique, its not the same, you ctrl+click or alt+click, etc right on the frame to cast heals, etc |
| 17:13.34 | Barbanus | you can assign any spell to it |
| 17:13.43 | kergoth | Gagorian: oh, neat :) |
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| 17:13.59 | Uhuru | thx but i prefer buttons ;) |
| 17:14.37 | _neuron_ | hm, wasn't there a QuestsFu part on the wiki? |
| 17:14.51 | Uhuru | clique is only for left click or all mouse buttons are configurable ? |
| 17:15.12 | Adirelle|work | Uhuru: all... |
| 17:15.25 | Scre3m | Adirelle|work, also, you may want to check out HealBot, which also uses click casting |
| 17:15.37 | Gagorian | kergoth: Aye, there's a lot of options so it can be a bit hidden. I just use the colors because it's very easily readable. All categories in different colors so I find it fast. But each according to their own tastes :) |
| 17:15.39 | Uhuru | thx i will maybe try, it works with ag_unitframes ? |
| 17:15.52 | kergoth | yeah, definately personal preference |
| 17:15.58 | Scre3m | no, it replaces aguf |
| 17:16.40 | Uhuru | clique replace ag_uf ? it has his own unit frames mod ? |
| 17:16.42 | Gagorian | ~seen Tekkub |
| 17:16.49 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 1d 9h 34m 42s ago, saying: 'it appears <imagelink> doesn't show up in image's "what links here", and thus you thought the image was unused, but it wasn't...'. |
| 17:16.52 | Chosi | Uhuru: nope |
| 17:16.53 | Adirelle|work | Uhuru: HealBot replaces Aguf |
| 17:17.09 | Adirelle|work | Uhuru: Clique is compatible with most unit frames |
| 17:17.26 | deltron | http://www.playthingofthegods.com/DianiusPetsGuide/DianiusPetsGuide.htm <-- someone has too much time on their hands :) |
| 17:17.55 | Uhuru | Adirelle|work i got healbot and it boring me cause it has manys bugs |
| 17:18.12 | Scre3m | I use HealBot constantly as priest, no bugs at all |
| 17:18.23 | Uhuru | which version ? |
| 17:18.28 | Scre3m | sec, ill get link |
| 17:18.46 | Barbanus | Uhuru, it works with AG_UF |
| 17:18.48 | Scre3m | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6096 |
| 17:18.51 | Barbanus | It does not replace it |
| 17:18.56 | Barbanus | it is NOT a unit frames addon |
| 17:19.08 | Barbanus | it just adds click casting to the frames |
| 17:19.12 | Scre3m | Clique works with ag_unitframes and most all unit frame mods |
| 17:19.16 | Barbanus | it works with pretty much any frames addon. |
| 17:19.48 | Scre3m | HealBot is a unit frames mod that has built-in click casting among many other things |
| 17:20.05 | Scre3m | debuffing, buffing, incoming heals, etc. |
| 17:20.15 | Scre3m | it's quite wonderful :) |
| 17:20.55 | Uhuru | Scre3m i tried the 2.05 and it has many bugs, 2.04 is about OK, you have tested the 2.05 ? |
| 17:21.28 | Sheathe | Anyone had this error with WAU? "Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt" If I do have corrupt RAM this would be the first application to complain about it |
| 17:21.42 | Sheathe | Also tried reinstalling / restarting PC |
| 17:21.52 | deltron | what version? |
| 17:21.59 | deltron | there's #wau also :) |
| 17:22.22 | Sheathe | is there? oops |
| 17:22.30 | Sheathe | latest from SourceForge |
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| 17:24.18 | Scre3m | Uhuru, yes, i use it constantly |
| 17:24.38 | Sheathe | Ah nvm I appear to have downloaded the latest BETA :P |
| 17:26.02 | Uhuru | Scre3m http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3374 take a look at the last post plz |
| 17:26.09 | Sheathe | Humph 1.6 didn't work either *moves to WAU* |
| 17:27.14 | vhaarr | Industrial: haha, sweet post http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4553.0;topicseen |
| 17:27.39 | kergoth | devs should be glad i'm here to try to ensure that nothing in svn causes problems with their usage of it, and that its used properly by their fellow devs.. but no, they complain and complain |
| 17:27.43 | kergoth | </rant> |
| 17:28.00 | kergoth | vhaarr, Industrial: lol |
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| 17:30.14 | vithos | i just right clicked the quest text view in nQuestLog and unchecked detach tablet from source or something like that... how do i get it back :( |
| 17:30.48 | _neuron_ | vithos, no idea :P |
| 17:30.50 | _neuron_ | but I'll try :P |
| 17:31.08 | _neuron_ | you clicked detach tablet on the fubar line? |
| 17:32.03 | _neuron_ | I cant find detach tablet anywhere :P |
| 17:32.10 | _neuron_ | ahh, in the details frame |
| 17:36.09 | vithos | sorry, yeah |
| 17:36.10 | _neuron_ | vithos, /script ReloadUI() will fix it :P |
| 17:36.18 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.41 | _neuron_ | vhaarr, well yeah, for ace mods that's true |
| 17:36.59 | _neuron_ | I tend to write /script ReloadUI() incase people arnt using the, but I guess that's kinda silly here :P |
| 17:37.06 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 17:37.39 | Chosi | groupfu sucks |
| 17:37.41 | Chosi | it's buggy |
| 17:37.49 | Barbanus | . /console reloadui |
| 17:37.52 | Tain | Or /console reloadui |
| 17:37.52 | Barbanus | that works too |
| 17:37.55 | Scre3m | Uhuru, i have not experienced any of those bugs |
| 17:37.57 | _neuron_ | hehe |
| 17:38.01 | Barbanus | Tain, jinx |
| 17:38.02 | Tain | Which is easier since it isn't case sensitive or need parenthesis |
| 17:38.04 | Scre3m | my guess is you may have a conflict with another addon |
| 17:38.10 | Barbanus | Tain, agreed |
| 17:38.23 | vhaarr | Chosi: What GroupFu? |
| 17:38.26 | vithos | worked, thanks. |
| 17:38.30 | vhaarr | Chosi: The one from SVN or the one from wowinterface? |
| 17:38.39 | Chosi | the one from the updater |
| 17:38.56 | vhaarr | Chosi: What's wrong with it, then? |
| 17:39.12 | Chosi | well like everything. i'm in a 2 man grp for testing |
| 17:39.19 | Chosi | my mate rolls, and it announces he won |
| 17:39.29 | Chosi | before i rolled |
| 17:39.33 | vhaarr | ah |
| 17:39.35 | Chosi | and yes, i cleared it before |
| 17:39.38 | vhaarr | I added that recently. |
| 17:39.47 | vhaarr | let me fix |
| 17:40.47 | Chosi | i also tried to turn announced off, then wait for two rolls and then click announce |
| 17:40.50 | Chosi | doesn't work |
| 17:41.03 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26860 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFu.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: Fix it so the roll counter accounts for the player as well. |
| 17:41.04 | Chosi | (ctrl+klick that is= |
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| 17:41.41 | vhaarr | If you have announce set to off, then of course Ctrl+Click doesn't work. |
| 17:42.42 | Chosi | could you add a countdown? |
| 17:42.51 | Chosi | for the last 5 seconds or stuff |
| 17:42.51 | vhaarr | no |
| 17:42.56 | Chosi | alright |
| 17:44.57 | Barbanus | Whats a good cooldown counter addon? |
| 17:45.10 | Elkano | OmniCC? |
| 17:45.45 | Barbanus | from wowi? |
| 17:46.06 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r26861 10Automaton/modules/Ding.lua: Automaton: Ding module: add missing $C handling, courtesy Kayde. |
| 17:46.23 | Elkano | yes |
| 17:46.46 | haste | so, how hard is Onyxia as L70 :D ? |
| 17:47.11 | Elkano | maybe doable with 2? ;) |
| 17:47.16 | Barbanus | No... |
| 17:47.21 | Barbanus | at 70, she is 73 |
| 17:47.28 | Elkano | she scales? |
| 17:47.35 | Barbanus | all "bosses" do |
| 17:47.38 | neenee | Well, she does have scales.. :) |
| 17:47.48 | Barbanus | any mob listed as a boss is your level +3 |
| 17:47.52 | Elkano | does the loot scale, too? |
| 17:47.52 | Chosi | vhaarr: it's not auto announcing at 2/2 |
| 17:47.57 | Barbanus | as far as misses, parry, dodge, etc go. |
| 17:47.57 | Chosi | is that intended? |
| 17:48.02 | Insa | yeah well for hits/misses etc |
| 17:48.05 | Barbanus | Elkano, nope, lol |
| 17:48.09 | vhaarr | Chosi: if you have Announce set to Off, yes. |
| 17:48.14 | Chosi | no it's on |
| 17:48.17 | Chosi | and it doesn't |
| 17:48.18 | Chosi | really ;) |
| 17:48.29 | Chosi | i have to ctrl+click |
| 17:48.42 | Industrial | vhaarr: xD |
| 17:48.49 | Chosi | took the latest svn one |
| 17:48.59 | Fisker- | Not true Barbanus :P |
| 17:49.02 | Industrial | vhaarr: kickass that they actualy looked and replied they couldnt find SaneUsage-101 in the addomns |
| 17:49.07 | Fisker- | Every raidinstance boss is yourlevel + 3 |
| 17:49.15 | Barbanus | Fisker-, thats what I said. |
| 17:49.16 | vhaarr | Industrial: indeed, hehe |
| 17:49.21 | Industrial | bblfood |
| 17:49.27 | Fisker- | Not exactly |
| 17:49.36 | Fisker- | Cause there are lower level instances with "bosses" too |
| 17:49.40 | lhunath | sometimes bartender does not switch buttons anymore on modifier while in combat, which gets fixed when reloadui'ing |
| 17:49.45 | Fisker- | Uldaman, WC, etc. |
| 17:49.50 | Barbanus | Uldaman is no longer a boss |
| 17:49.56 | Fisker- | oh |
| 17:49.56 | Barbanus | neither are the others |
| 17:50.00 | Barbanus | that was fixed. |
| 17:50.08 | Barbanus | like 2-3 months ago |
| 17:50.24 | vhaarr | Chosi: Works fine here with a group of 2 players rolling. |
| 17:50.30 | Barbanus | a KT farming guild went and did naxx with some level 70 tanks ... patchwerk was harder .. cause their dodge / parry chance has dropped so much |
| 17:50.40 | vhaarr | Chosi: Remember that it might take 20min for you to get the update. |
| 17:50.43 | Saroz | any quick way to remove an element in a table based on value? |
| 17:50.50 | Fisker- | I think it's stupid they're scaling bosses though |
| 17:50.53 | Chosi | oh alright |
| 17:51.01 | Barbanus | they hard 1-2K more health, but the drop in dodge/parry really hurt them |
| 17:51.09 | Chosi | well but it fixed the self accounting bug |
| 17:51.09 | Barbanus | s/hard/had/ |
| 17:51.16 | Chosi | announced here in the channel |
| 17:52.35 | Saroz | vhaarr? any quick way to remove an element in a table based on value? :´| |
| 17:52.42 | vhaarr | Saroz: no |
| 17:53.32 | Saroz | soooo, have to loop it and nuke it? |
| 17:53.44 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r26862 10Automaton/modules/Ding.lua: Automaton: Ding module: only do leveling notification when greater than or equal to a threshold level. minlevel defaults to 5. |
| 17:53.48 | vhaarr | Saroz: yes |
| 17:54.43 | krka | unless you keep a lookup table of it |
| 17:55.13 | CIA-17 | 03jerry * r26863 10lern2count/ (Default/Trinity_Buttons.lua lern2count.toc): lern2count: fix to TrinityBars support |
| 17:55.18 | jkw | I'd really like the posibility in Prat to toggle all chattabs/chatwindows via one single keybinding. :[ |
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| 17:57.21 | Saroz | so this is the easiest way to do it? http://ace.pastey.net/5821 |
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| 18:01.41 | Nickenyfiken | hmm what's ACP doing? |
| 18:01.43 | CIA-17 | 03mallen * r26864 10TradeBar/locale-enUS.lua: |
| 18:01.44 | CIA-17 | TradeBar: |
| 18:01.44 | CIA-17 | - updated language |
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| 18:02.05 | Silviu- | Nickenyfiken ACp = MCP |
| 18:02.29 | Nickenyfiken | ah ok :-) |
| 18:03.20 | Nickenyfiken | desc says "Formerly ACP" |
| 18:03.29 | haste | Barbanus: sure about that? our L70 warrior takes 300 hits :p |
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| 18:04.36 | Nickenyfiken | probably |
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| 18:11.55 | Barbanus | 300 hits from what? |
| 18:13.08 | pub | hey, i was wondering if it's possible to only change the size of the ingame damage text? (is it somewhere in ClearFont?) |
| 18:14.00 | Barbanus | haste, if you mean patchwerk, armor caps out at 75% reduction, so I don't understand how you could have patchwerk hit you for 300 |
| 18:14.14 | haste | Barbanus: didn't I clearly say Onyxia? |
| 18:14.51 | Barbanus | oh, you are still referring to onyxia, not my last comment about patchwerk ... |
| 18:15.02 | Barbanus | sorry, misunderstood which you were talking about. |
| 18:15.19 | haste | also, regarding patchwork |
| 18:15.21 | haste | that was a bug |
| 18:15.30 | haste | it was there during live also, it was hotfixed shortly after the patch |
| 18:15.31 | Barbanus | which was? |
| 18:15.45 | haste | the one with patchy hitting tier 3 warriors for 12k |
| 18:15.48 | haste | or whatever it was |
| 18:15.56 | deltron | I read that dranei can't do ony chain |
| 18:16.05 | Barbanus | Oh yea .. that was a bug awhile ago .. when 2.0 lauched, before TBC tho |
| 18:16.15 | haste | 2.0 _is_ basically TBC tho' |
| 18:16.21 | haste | without the content :) |
| 18:16.33 | neenee | And without the version |
| 18:16.33 | Barbanus | it was hotfixed before TBC came out tho :) |
| 18:17.09 | sylvanaar | jkw toggle them to what? |
| 18:17.30 | haste | They still said he was 'scaled' based on a L70 tank under beta |
| 18:18.31 | Elkano | <3 Vista... webpages telling your PC to delete sensitive data via sound files and the PC actually doing that shit ^^ sounds fun |
| 18:18.57 | haste | err |
| 18:19.02 | winkiller | yeah that rocks |
| 18:19.14 | haste | http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=151250154&size=o |
| 18:20.28 | sylvanaar | Nickenyfiken grep'ed over that thanks |
| 18:21.11 | Elkano | vista realy made me thinking about getting myself a new OS... somthing xgl based maybe ;) |
| 18:21.49 | Barbanus | Here's the post about bosses scaling, BTW: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/70809126.htm |
| 18:22.04 | Barbanus | "Yes the bosses scale and should act as if 3 levels higher than each individual player. So this will only affect, chance to resist, glancing blows and to hit for each person." |
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| 18:22.53 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r26865 10MCP-QQ/ACP/ (ACP.lua ACP.toc ACP.xml): ACP: TOC textual references to MCP fixed. xml pretty-printed. Removed hooking of LoadAddon completely instead of just commenting the hook out. |
| 18:23.08 | Barbanus | and with the nerf on your gear to +hit, because of the scaling of the rating system, you will actually resist, and miss more than you did at 60 :) (unless you have started to replace gear) |
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| 18:29.09 | Nickenyfiken | hmm is ClosetGnome seems to be missing SpecialEvents as external |
| 18:29.35 | Saroz | How do you nuke an element from a table if the key is a string? |
| 18:29.39 | Saroz | can't use table.remove |
| 18:29.54 | Nickenyfiken | SpecialEvents-Mount to be more specific |
| 18:30.08 | Nickenyfiken | table["key"] = nil ? |
| 18:30.12 | Fisker- | I thought kenco debunke that you could have more than 75% reduction |
| 18:30.15 | Fisker- | soh |
| 18:30.21 | Saroz | doesnt that keep the key in the table? |
| 18:30.48 | Nickenyfiken | uh yeah i guess |
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| 18:35.08 | deltron | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4485.0 <-- would be so awesome |
| 18:36.41 | Elkano | \o/ |
| 18:36.59 | Elkano | Germany pwnd France :) |
| 18:38.07 | NeoTron | so, imp cannon warlock spec (demo/destro focusing on the imp) puts out impressive DPS |
| 18:38.28 | NeoTron | twice I have out-dpsed a better equipped affliction/dest (up to ruin) warlock in 5-man runs |
| 18:38.48 | NeoTron | however keeping the dang imp alive is sometimes a pain (died 13 times in steamvault) |
| 18:40.34 | Nickenyfiken | hehe |
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| 18:44.29 | Myrathi | At least it doesn't cost shards to pick him back up off the floor =) |
| 18:45.47 | deltron | hehe |
| 18:47.40 | Sparhawke | has anyone had any problems with buff or petbar icons dissapearing or not being the correct ones? |
| 18:48.05 | ilifin | helps if you say which mod |
| 18:50.19 | Sparhawke | see I don't know which mod it is |
| 18:50.29 | Sparhawke | some mod is causing that problem |
| 18:50.34 | Thorgard | Someone suggest a decent HUD mod. |
| 18:50.37 | Sparhawke | I was wondering if anyone has heard of that |
| 18:50.57 | ilifin | ah, that is most likely default UI :p |
| 18:50.58 | deltron | thorgard: archud |
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| 18:53.27 | deltron | ~seen dafire |
| 18:54.45 | purl | dafire <n=dafire@irata.reakktor.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7d 3h 41m 25s ago, saying: 'i didn't see anything at thott either'. |
| 18:55.27 | xyu` | ahh my POI's have dissappeared in my cartographer :( |
| 18:55.46 | xyu` | the whole side panel is gone actually |
| 18:56.02 | xyu` | i swear i can break anything |
| 18:56.15 | NeoTron | Myrathi: indeed, that is the bonus |
| 18:56.19 | kergoth | Thorgard: archud, icehud, metahud |
| 18:56.20 | Pneumatus | does anyone know if theres an addon similar to Taunt Buddy that informs when a pets Growl was resisted? |
| 18:56.26 | kergoth | though metahud isnt ace2, its perty :P |
| 18:56.31 | deltron | ~seen nylith |
| 18:56.40 | purl | nylith <n=nylith@c-67-173-6-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 57d 12h 10m 39s ago, saying: 'second issue: sRaidFrames appears to be working fine except there are no visible frames on my screen. i can change the options for the frames etc, and it tells me when i join a raid that its enabling the frames, but i never see ... |
| 18:56.41 | Thorgard | Got a personal favorite? |
| 18:56.41 | kergoth | i shoudl sign up for google mail services for my arathor guild site |
| 18:56.53 | deltron | kergoth: it's free |
| 18:56.57 | kergoth | yeah |
| 18:57.07 | deltron | kergoth: you going to be raiding? |
| 18:57.18 | Gastro | wtb multitips support for IDCard |
| 18:57.42 | kergoth | deltron: someday perhaps, but its a close knit casual guild, doubt itll ever end up like sanc |
| 18:57.59 | deltron | kergoth: hehe we're going to be switching dkp systems probably |
| 18:58.05 | kergoth | actually, more like my old guilds grown up guild and better off dead, than sanc |
| 18:58.14 | kergoth | what i hate about sanc's system is the ability to stockpile dkp |
| 18:58.18 | kergoth | ikaz can get anything |
| 18:59.03 | Tain | Have to be able to have a system that takes that into account. So many people just let it go and then get into a panic once someone has amassed dkp. |
| 18:59.10 | deltron | yeah |
| 18:59.21 | deltron | we're going to be getting rid of the ability of stockpiling dkp |
| 18:59.33 | kergoth | i was thinking about a system that had expiration for the dkp, X days from the date that particular dkp was acquired or something |
| 18:59.35 | Tain | I argued about it with my last guild, was told I was overreacting and it would never ben an issue. Until it was! |
| 18:59.37 | kergoth | but i know theres probably better systems out there already |
| 18:59.41 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:00.07 | deltron | kergoth: http://code.google.com/p/epgp/wiki/WhatIsEPGP_v2 |
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| 19:00.36 | deltron | kergoth: EPGP seems like it's solve a TON of headaches with DKP hoarding |
| 19:00.37 | Fisker- | kergoth do you know why kaelten isn't around? |
| 19:00.39 | Tain | I think (all in theory, haven't fleshed it out) that a DKP tax can work if done right. A flat percentage tax, so higher totals get taxed more. |
| 19:00.56 | kergoth | Fisker-: not offhand. i talked to him in email the other day, it seems like he's just really busy with real life stuff |
| 19:01.07 | kergoth | Fisker-: did you need something administrative? i have access to the wowace machine now |
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| 19:01.53 | Tain | Is re-coding KC_Items and KC_EnhancedTrades administrative? You could do that. :) |
| 19:02.07 | kergoth | nooooo |
| 19:02.23 | deltron | lol |
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| 19:02.38 | Groll | anyone know the ip of daggerspine eu server or how to get it? i need to do a traceroute |
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| 19:03.55 | deltron | -_- |
| 19:03.59 | NeoTron | it's funny though that with imp cannon spec the imp outdpsed me most of the time (only towards the end did he start dying enough to lose that lead) |
| 19:04.01 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 19:04.25 | NeoTron | he was third on the DPS chart. I was 4th or 5th (behind the druid tank most of the time) |
| 19:04.52 | kergoth | maybe i'll just ask for 20 accounts on the guild email, just give them to officers |
| 19:05.02 | Thorgard | Groll, http://www.wowwiki.com/EU_English_Realms_Info |
| 19:05.24 | Thorgard | groll, it ends in 179.109 ;P |
| 19:05.41 | Groll | Thorgard thx |
| 19:05.50 | deltron | kergoth: what's your site now? I'll troll it :) |
| 19:05.59 | Thorgard | 80.239.178.x, 80.239.179.x x= 179.109 |
| 19:06.05 | Chosi | automaton guy here? |
| 19:06.10 | Thorgard | 80.239.179.109, then |
| 19:06.14 | Chosi | getting errors since the last update |
| 19:06.15 | Thorgard | groll, np |
| 19:06.16 | kergoth | Thorgard: i ended up ditching the hud in favor of just my energy ticker and aguf placed in the center of the screen, myself, but before that i was torn between icehud and metahud |
| 19:06.16 | axxo | NeoTron, you just suck then |
| 19:06.27 | chutwig | i used to use archud |
| 19:06.42 | chutwig | but then i decided i wanted the center of the screen clear instead so i pushed everything out to the sides |
| 19:06.46 | kergoth | ~seen weab |
| 19:06.58 | purl | weab <n=asdf@66.89.174.138.ptr.us.xo.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 23h 14m 36s ago, saying: 'I'll be adding some basic options for adding new items to Automaton's sell module with the next version. down the road i intend to hook up pt3 to it'. |
| 19:06.58 | Thorgard | Hohum. Guess I'll give 'em all a shot. |
| 19:06.58 | kergoth | Chosi: whats the error, i probably broke it, checked in drycode :P |
| 19:07.04 | NeoTron | axxo: I suck? do you know how much dps an imp cannon puts out? |
| 19:07.17 | NeoTron | fyi me and the pet was clearly on top of the damage meters |
| 19:07.21 | Chosi | [2007/02/01 20:04:47-69-x1]: Automaton-1.2.4\modules\Mailer.lua:47: AceHook-2.1: "ContainerFrameItemButton_OnModifiedClick" already has an active hook from this source. |
| 19:07.32 | kergoth | oh, didnt touch that module |
| 19:07.33 | Chosi | or well maybe it's another addon |
| 19:07.35 | Chosi | like gmail |
| 19:07.36 | NeoTron | problem with imp cannon spec is that you spend more time managin the pet to make sure he doesn't die or stand in the wrong place |
| 19:07.36 | kergoth | dunno then |
| 19:07.37 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r26866 10Necronomicon2/ (Modules/Firestone.lua Modules/Spellstone.lua Prototype.lua): Necronomicon2: correcting todays drycode. |
| 19:08.01 | chutwig | NeoTron: hunterlock |
| 19:08.26 | Myrathi | Hmm. Today.. is a day I seem to be incapable of finding things. -squint- |
| 19:08.27 | NeoTron | my imp put out perhaps 475 DPS |
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| 19:08.41 | Myrathi | Anyone got a link to an updated KLHThreat thingie? |
| 19:08.58 | kergoth | NeoTron: damn |
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| 19:09.12 | NeoTron | and he empties his mana bar in 20 seconds |
| 19:09.13 | deltron | I've not used any raiding mods in ages |
| 19:09.15 | deltron | heh |
| 19:09.26 | NeoTron | so I have to life tap more often than if I didn't have a pet with that amount of mana drain |
| 19:09.35 | NeoTron | which in turn leads to even further lowering my dps |
| 19:10.00 | Myrathi | NeoTron: That just sounds like too much hassle. :p |
| 19:10.30 | deltron | whoa |
| 19:10.34 | kergoth | deltron: my guild only has a forum atm :) i'm working on learning django and creating a consistent interface and start page and such.. |
| 19:10.34 | deltron | williams street is making a movie |
| 19:10.36 | deltron | http://www.adultswim.com/shows/athf/movie/index.html |
| 19:10.52 | NeoTron | Myrathi: it sort of is yes |
| 19:11.00 | NeoTron | and it's unclear how it'd work in raids |
| 19:11.16 | deltron | django another CMS? |
| 19:11.24 | kergoth | not a cms |
| 19:11.32 | deltron | kergoth: I'm using SMF with tinyportal atm |
| 19:11.41 | NeoTron | i have just respecced to 46 affliction, 13 demo |
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| 19:11.41 | kergoth | just a framework for writing web apps, lower level |
| 19:11.41 | deltron | on sanctuary-guild.org |
| 19:11.42 | kergoth | could build a cms with it of course |
| 19:11.45 | NeoTron | basically just trying different specs atm |
| 19:11.46 | kergoth | ah cool |
| 19:11.48 | deltron | ahh |
| 19:12.20 | kergoth | its model is quite nice, MVC style (model-view-controller) |
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| 19:15.16 | deltron | hmm, don't need to write sql code? |
| 19:15.22 | ckknight | nope. |
| 19:15.31 | ckknight | the ORM handles that for you |
| 19:15.41 | deltron | that's awesome |
| 19:15.54 | Industrial | relearn* |
| 19:16.01 | ckknight | ew, Industrial |
| 19:16.08 | chutwig | PHP is like pseudocode that became reality |
| 19:16.12 | Industrial | i know |
| 19:16.19 | chutwig | sort of like perl |
| 19:16.21 | deltron | someone write a ace2 mod for interface for the phpraider site :) |
| 19:16.40 | Barbanus | kergoth, yea, similar to RoR I've heard |
| 19:16.43 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, corba? I weep for you... skeletons and stubs and distributed transactions |
| 19:16.47 | KarlThePagan | at least it's not RMI |
| 19:16.57 | Kemayo | Python is very pseudo-code-looking, too. |
| 19:17.08 | ckknight | I |
| 19:17.20 | ckknight | I'd say that Python is a lot closer to pseudocode than PHP |
| 19:17.30 | KarlThePagan | in other news --- YAY http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63167579&pageNo=3&sid=1#52 |
| 19:17.31 | Industrial | wat about lua |
| 19:17.32 | Industrial | xD |
| 19:17.36 | NeoTron | PHP started out being a simple macro language |
| 19:17.39 | KarlThePagan | per-addon memory profiling built-in! |
| 19:17.44 | ckknight | PHP is just the butter made out of the milk from Satan's teat |
| 19:17.50 | Kemayo | PHP is wonderfully useful, but terribly flawed. |
| 19:17.52 | NeoTron | in PHP3 it sort of became more of a real language. before that it really wasn't |
| 19:18.05 | chutwig | PHP is living proof of why namespaces are a requirement |
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| 19:18.21 | vhaarr | kergoth: ping |
| 19:18.28 | Barbanus | KarlThePagan, woot, now just need someone to build a frontend to that :) |
| 19:18.28 | Kemayo | PHP is living proof of why inconsistent standard library function naming is a Bad Idea. |
| 19:18.29 | chutwig | and why minor things such as "planning your language out" and "having a roadmap" have benefits |
| 19:18.39 | deltron | I only code simple shell scripts, autoit scripts, and vbs scripts :P |
| 19:18.55 | Barbanus | deltron writes keyloggers in vbs!!! |
| 19:19.03 | Barbanus | vbs is the devil! |
| 19:19.06 | deltron | lol |
| 19:19.06 | NeoTron | Ok that is a sweet change |
| 19:19.10 | deltron | I have to use vbs :( |
| 19:19.15 | NeoTron | now I can finally see what addons are hogging my memory |
| 19:19.22 | Barbanus | NeoTron, yea, it is |
| 19:19.27 | kergoth | vhaarr: pong |
| 19:19.38 | Barbanus | the new taintchecking functions may also be good |
| 19:19.44 | kergoth | ooh that change is sweet |
| 19:19.46 | Kemayo | Oh, that *is* a sweet change |
| 19:19.49 | kergoth | yeah, should make it quite a bit easier to track down |
| 19:19.55 | Kemayo | God, we're all so incredibly nerdy. :-P |
| 19:20.13 | _neuron_ | hehe, so true |
| 19:20.14 | NeoTron | with an addon that turns on memory profiling (i.e turns of gc and tracks usage and displays it in a table) it'll be immensly useful |
| 19:21.01 | NeoTron | Barbanus: so you're actually able to get proper reporting on how tainting happened? |
| 19:21.23 | Barbanus | NeoTron, aparantly.... |
| 19:21.29 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26867 10SpyGnome/ (6 files in 2 dirs): SpyGnome: Initial import. Keep it secret, keep it safe. |
| 19:21.38 | deltron | I do have to say, microsoft powershell looks like it's gonna be so freaking sweet |
| 19:21.47 | Barbanus | NeoTron, in that same post, go to #41 |
| 19:21.50 | NeoTron | the default WoW handling is just dumb |
| 19:21.57 | deltron | too bad most of the devices I work with are still win2k |
| 19:21.58 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r26868 10Necronomicon2/Core.lua: Necronomicon2: corrections for detecting equipped spellstone/firestone. it glows... |
| 19:22.06 | ckknight | what new taintchecking functions? |
| 19:22.11 | Barbanus | " issecurevariable() returns a second value which is the name of the addon that tainted the variable, if it is not secure. " |
| 19:22.18 | deltron | ckknight: you look between your legs? |
| 19:22.21 | Barbanus | "secure, reason = issecurevariable([table,] "variable") " |
| 19:22.28 | ckknight | deltron: every now and again. |
| 19:22.42 | Sutorix | @kemayo -- we're on *IRC* dude, of course we're nerdy. Otherwise we wouldn't know how to get here ;-) |
| 19:22.46 | ckknight | Barbanus: cool |
| 19:23.03 | Barbanus | ckknight, as long as it works as advertised |
| 19:23.11 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26869 10SpyGnome/ (SpyGnome.lua SpyGnome.toc libs/): SpyGnome: SVN keywords and externals. |
| 19:23.17 | Barbanus | and doesnt report the wrong one .. because of the way tainting happens |
| 19:23.18 | deltron | kergoth: http://www.aphorism-guild.org/dkp |
| 19:23.28 | vhaarr | kergoth: Sorry, nevermind, I figured it out. |
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| 19:24.28 | kergoth | np |
| 19:24.50 | Sutorix | @Tekkub,ckknight -- is there additional magic to get the automatic TOC data set up? I followed the 'SVN for idiots' guide (since I'm on a Mac ;-), and I'm pretty sure I got the keywords right (copy'n'paste)... |
| 19:24.54 | Barbanus | so, we need like a mod that will record addon mem usage, and tainting with a nice UI of some sort :) |
| 19:25.04 | kergoth | deltron: nice, looks like an interesting system |
| 19:25.11 | ckknight | automatic TOC data? |
| 19:25.20 | Tekkub | script doesn't catch imports, poke the TOC once |
| 19:25.47 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26870 10nQuestLog/ (8 files in 2 dirs): nQuestLog : Adding quest minion header (I know it's ugly atm, you can turn it off) |
| 19:26.00 | Sutorix | Yeah, where the SVN check-in causes it to happen. Hmm, I've updated it already at least once :-( |
| 19:26.11 | _neuron_ | sometimes I think I should be hit in the head with a blunt object for my skills in layout/coloring choices |
| 19:26.26 | kergoth | deltron: i like the use of google calendar for scheduling on that site, pretty cool way to go |
| 19:26.57 | deltron | kergoth: yeah not bad |
| 19:27.06 | deltron | I'm still going to use phpraider for raiding |
| 19:27.34 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r26871 10Necronomicon2/Modules/SoulShard.lua: Necronomicon2: stop using unholy inverted logic |
| 19:27.56 | Barbanus | [Ammo], haha nice commit message |
| 19:28.32 | Barbanus | is the word "unholy" describing the inverted logic? :P |
| 19:28.45 | Sutorix | It might be a technical term. |
| 19:28.46 | chutwig | shadow logic |
| 19:29.52 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r26872 10Necronomicon2/Modules/Soulstone.lua: Necronomicon2: added missing :Show() for ssoulstone buitton |
| 19:30.08 | deltron | hmm |
| 19:30.34 | deltron | [Ammo]: heh keyboard messed up? |
| 19:30.45 | Myrathi | PEBKAC :) |
| 19:31.26 | deltron | lol |
| 19:31.28 | Myrathi | Much like here.. since I meant to type PEBCAK :p |
| 19:31.38 | Myrathi | Eh. Tomato, tomato. |
| 19:31.39 | Myrathi | :p |
| 19:31.52 | Mikma | who's working on Postal? |
| 19:32.01 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26873 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.lua: SpyGnome: Removed a stray chatframe print. |
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| 19:32.27 | Mikma | [Ammo]: you? |
| 19:32.33 | deltron | Mikma: grennon |
| 19:32.37 | deltron | I guess? |
| 19:32.51 | Mikma | good guess, but it's still wrong ;) |
| 19:32.54 | deltron | heh |
| 19:33.07 | Myrathi | Check the TOC? ;p |
| 19:33.10 | Kemayo | _neuron_: "Quest minion header"? |
| 19:33.48 | Myrathi | Hm. Time to go beat up Vagath. |
| 19:33.49 | Mikma | what log? |
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| 19:34.12 | _neuron_ | Kemayo, a header that says nQuestLog, works as an anchor and one can show/hide zones by right clicking on it. |
| 19:34.29 | Saroz | Script memory is now tracked on a per-addon basis. |
| 19:34.29 | Saroz | You can call UpdateAddOnMemoryUse() to calculate the current memory usage of all addons, and then call GetAddOnMemoryUse(index or "name") to query an addon's memory use (in K) |
| 19:34.34 | Saroz | .. FOR TEH WIN |
| 19:35.02 | Tekkub | what? |
| 19:35.10 | Saroz | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63167579&pageNo=3&sid=1#52 |
| 19:35.21 | Tekkub | fuck |
| 19:35.22 | KarlThePagan | made of win and kittens |
| 19:35.22 | Tekkub | me |
| 19:35.23 | Tekkub | daddy |
| 19:35.29 | Saroz | haha |
| 19:35.35 | deltron | oh nice |
| 19:36.18 | Tekkub | FIRST! |
| 19:36.28 | Saroz | forum troll |
| 19:36.46 | deltron | lol |
| 19:36.55 | Tekkub | I'm suro you can tell what's after that ... |
| 19:37.47 | Saroz | I don |
| 19:37.50 | Saroz | I don't get it* |
| 19:37.56 | Saroz | gonna click the hazzard symbol |
| 19:38.11 | Tekkub | you dick, I didn't even say that :P |
| 19:38.16 | Fisker- | Inside joke or you sucked at spelling? |
| 19:38.22 | Tekkub | I only IMPLIED it ^^ |
| 19:39.42 | KarlThePagan | I'm guessing that UpdateAddOnMemoryUsage will have a cost similar to a full GC tho |
| 19:39.46 | kergoth | deltron: i wonder how a guild would react to using google groups + a wiki instead of a forum |
| 19:39.54 | KarlThePagan | or worse... |
| 19:41.02 | deltron | kergoth: wiki has a large enough learning curve...you know how hard it is for me to get some of my guildies to use the forums? |
| 19:41.10 | deltron | well |
| 19:41.28 | deltron | I dunno, is there limitations to attachments and stuff |
| 19:41.34 | kergoth | was just thinking that a wiki gives you teh equivalent of stickies |
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| 19:41.39 | kergoth | only with more organization |
| 19:42.17 | deltron | yeah it's a great idea |
| 19:42.29 | kenlyric | there's a server that keeps their progression tracked on their wowwiki page. |
| 19:42.29 | deltron | might have to deal with spam on the wiki and such |
| 19:42.33 | kergoth | it annoys me when theres duplication of info |
| 19:42.38 | kergoth | like wowace's forum and wiki |
| 19:42.39 | kenlyric | so much nicer than the forum progression thread. |
| 19:42.51 | kenlyric | forums shouldn't be used for documentation, period. |
| 19:42.55 | deltron | kergoth: very true |
| 19:42.57 | kergoth | there are wikis that are easier to work with |
| 19:42.59 | kenlyric | stickies should link to the wiki page. |
| 19:43.02 | kergoth | no markup and stuff, just edit |
| 19:43.06 | Scre3m | dokuwiki is nice |
| 19:43.42 | Scre3m | easy to install, backup, and use |
| 19:45.18 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r26874 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: |
| 19:45.18 | CIA-17 | Quixote: Quixote: |
| 19:45.18 | CIA-17 | -Add events Quixote_Quest_Complete and Quixote_Quest_Failed, both with args of |
| 19:45.18 | CIA-17 | "name, id". They'll trigger when the value of isComplete changes, so I don't |
| 19:45.18 | CIA-17 | think they'll have problems with the many quests that are flagged complete when |
| 19:45.19 | CIA-17 | you get them. |
| 19:45.22 | CIA-17 | -A couple of light optimizations (unnecessary locals, pointless ifs.) |
| 19:45.30 | Groll | Saroz oh i read that one.. gimme an addon to check what addons i shouldnt use thank you :D |
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| 19:48.44 | ckknight | stop emboldening our enemies. |
| 19:48.44 | chutwig | embiggen |
| 19:49.19 | Kemayo | Now, to find a built-in sound that works for "quest complete", and another for "quest failed". |
| 19:49.38 | ckknight | use the roar sound. |
| 19:49.59 | chutwig | and don't use the final fantasy victory sound |
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| 19:50.23 | axxo | use the scrye rep handin voice |
| 19:50.28 | axxo | its imba |
| 19:50.30 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r26875 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: |
| 19:50.30 | CIA-17 | XPBarNone: |
| 19:50.30 | CIA-17 | - Improvements to the tooltip for the reputation menu. Now shows current rep levels with the factions you mouse over. |
| 19:51.09 | deltron | lol |
| 19:51.09 | deltron | I got my guild to use ora2 |
| 19:51.23 | kergoth | yay |
| 19:51.46 | chutwig | my old guild tried to get us to use, uh |
| 19:52.03 | chutwig | i don't remember its name now |
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| 19:52.08 | deltron | we were using ct |
| 19:52.13 | chutwig | it had custom widgets, and the author wanted people to pay for it |
| 19:52.42 | deltron | whaaaa |
| 19:52.44 | NeoTron | chutwig: I know what you're talking about but I also can't recall the name |
| 19:52.49 | Kemayo | RDX? |
| 19:52.51 | chutwig | yes |
| 19:52.53 | NeoTron | that would be it |
| 19:52.56 | chutwig | what a piece of junk |
| 19:53.11 | deltron | ahh i never used that |
| 19:53.31 | chutwig | now we use oRA and bigwigs and everyone's happy |
| 19:54.27 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26876 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.lua: SpyGnome: Make sure tables are tables. |
| 19:54.33 | NeoTron | did perfectraid ever get fixed for WoW 2.0 btw? |
| 19:54.46 | NeoTron | used to use that on my priest (don't care as much now on my warlock though) |
| 19:55.13 | deltron | I started using sRaidFrames |
| 19:55.19 | chutwig | back in the dark ages i had most of the ct_* kit installed |
| 19:56.13 | deltron | yeah |
| 19:56.29 | durcyn | NeoTron: http://cladhaire.wowinterface.com |
| 19:56.44 | deltron | it too me AGES to get my guild off of ct* |
| 19:57.03 | KarlThePagan | Kemayo, for QuestsFu - I'd love a waypoint on quest completion - Wobbin is working on a method for having multiple waypoints set simultaneously (in a priority queue) |
| 19:57.08 | NeoTron | ah |
| 19:57.16 | NeoTron | didn't it used to be on wowace? |
| 19:57.29 | Scre3m | perfect is working, yes |
| 19:57.34 | Scre3m | perfectraid* |
| 19:57.55 | NeoTron | although I think what I'd need most now is the "raid status" display that came with CTRA |
| 19:58.04 | kergoth | vhaarr: what exactly is spygnome? |
| 19:58.07 | NeoTron | i.e healer/caster mana, health status, number of people alive/dead/afk/offline |
| 19:58.11 | chutwig | oRA provides that stuff now in pieces, doesn't it |
| 19:58.11 | KarlThePagan | NeoTron, XRS |
| 19:58.14 | chutwig | oh |
| 19:58.21 | KarlThePagan | yea XRS does it fine |
| 19:58.21 | NeoTron | KarlThePagan: XRaidStatus? |
| 19:58.24 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 19:58.26 | kergoth | xrs is nice |
| 19:58.29 | Scre3m | grid |
| 19:58.31 | NeoTron | ok I'll check it out |
| 19:58.32 | kergoth | on my rogue i used to use it with no raid frames |
| 19:58.36 | chutwig | i could use a healer mana status thing because i turned mana bars off on my raid frames but that's it |
| 19:58.46 | vhaarr | kergoth: It queries addon versions from your party members. As long as they have a AceComm copy in some addon, it works. |
| 19:58.49 | KarlThePagan | I acually like XRS more than grid for just a *few* things scratchy |
| 19:58.56 | NeoTron | Scre3m: so I might be stupid but I when I tried grid I could for my life not move the frame. Every time I moved it, it insisted of moving back itself... |
| 19:58.58 | Kemayo | KarlThePagan: Tricky to do consistently. I can make a waypoint for the person/object that granted the quest, but there's no guarantee that it'll be where you really need to go. |
| 19:59.03 | KarlThePagan | s/scratchy/Scre3m/ |
| 19:59.15 | kergoth | vhaarr: ah, neat |
| 19:59.19 | Scre3m | ill check out XRS |
| 19:59.24 | NeoTron | chutwig: as a non-healer, non-decurser I don't need any individual raid status at all |
| 19:59.29 | vhaarr | kergoth: (and displays it in a fubar tablet) |
| 19:59.30 | Scre3m | grid moves fine for me? maybe try the newest version |
| 19:59.45 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r26877 10DrDamage/ (Data/Mage.lua DrDamage.toc): |
| 19:59.45 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 19:59.45 | CIA-17 | -Arcane missiles rank 10&11 |
| 19:59.49 | chutwig | NeoTron: people live and die by what i see on my pretty bars |
| 19:59.49 | NeoTron | it's weird. I move it an it jumps up to top/center part of the screen partially hidden by fubar |
| 20:00.00 | NeoTron | chutwig: thus you're a healer :) |
| 20:00.08 | chutwig | rumor has it |
| 20:00.11 | KarlThePagan | Kemayo, I see what you mean - perhaps make it an option? |
| 20:01.02 | kergoth | NeoTron: you'll definately love xrs then, its perfect for dps classes that dont need details about everyone else |
| 20:01.19 | Gagorian | Tekkub: Ping |
| 20:01.27 | Tekkub | eh? |
| 20:01.31 | NeoTron | sounds good |
| 20:01.57 | Gagorian | Tekkub: What do you think about putting in GameTooltip:GetSpell() into gratuity? |
| 20:02.03 | deltron | is a damage tracker possible in ace? |
| 20:02.12 | kergoth | damage tracker? |
| 20:02.21 | deltron | like sw_stats or something |
| 20:02.26 | kergoth | ace is just an addon framework to avoid having to re do the same shit over and over |
| 20:02.29 | kergoth | so yes, of course its possible |
| 20:02.32 | kergoth | just nobody's done it yet |
| 20:02.34 | deltron | heh |
| 20:02.35 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:02.42 | Tekkub | uh, Grat handles the Set* functions not the gets |
| 20:02.51 | kergoth | deltron: start coding one |
| 20:03.29 | break19 | deltron: yea, if ya so bored.. make one.. and make it light.. I couldn;t care less about data sharing in a friggin damage meter. heh |
| 20:03.37 | Gagorian | Tekkub: Now to get the info from the tooltip I've got to read lines from right and left. Would be slightly easier with GetSpell() |
| 20:03.58 | Gagorian | I won't have the frame object so I can't use it. |
| 20:04.12 | deltron | hah, I have no idea how to code in lua |
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| 20:04.32 | Gagorian | So GT:SetAction( i ); local spellName,spellRank = GT:GetSpell() would be nice and easy |
| 20:04.46 | Tekkub | 1) don't fuck with the gametooltip |
| 20:05.05 | Tekkub | 2) I don't see why you think you can't do that in grat right now |
| 20:06.14 | Gagorian | Not doing anything with the gametooltip.. And 2nd it doesn't obviously recognize that method name in that way |
| 20:08.04 | Tekkub | you have direct access to grat's tooltip, use it. |
| 20:08.38 | Mikma | _neuron_: yo, i got an error with the latest revision |
| 20:09.37 | Gagorian | Tekkub: Umm, maybe I'm not getting it then. How? |
| 20:09.37 | Mikma | _neuron_: modules\Notifications.lua:145: attemps to index field 'hiddenZone' (a nil value) |
| 20:10.00 | Tekkub | lib.vars.tooltip or something, look in the code |
| 20:11.29 | Gagorian | Tekkub: Oh nice, that clears it up then. Thanks for your time :p |
| 20:12.49 | NeoTron | break19: in raids or even groups, no data sharing mean inaccurate results ;-) |
| 20:14.00 | break19 | NeoTron: perhaps. but I still dont like it :) |
| 20:14.03 | _neuron_ | Mikma, I'll look at it |
| 20:15.01 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26878 10nQuestLog/modules/ (MinionHeader.lua Notifications.lua): nQuestLog : Fixing bug in notifications and defaulting minion header to off |
| 20:15.06 | _neuron_ | Mikma, fixed :P |
| 20:15.12 | Mikma | _neuron_: thanks :) |
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| 20:19.20 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26879 10nQuestLog/: nQuestLog : Adding missing external Babble-Class |
| 20:20.54 | Funkeh` | ROFL |
| 20:21.01 | Funkeh` | big bad wolf rocks |
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| 20:35.42 | deltron | I wish I could run OS X on my amd box |
| 20:36.20 | Tekkub | slouken hates me |
| 20:36.31 | Tekkub | he removed my post :) |
| 20:36.34 | Tekkub | bith |
| 20:36.37 | Tekkub | *bitch |
| 20:36.40 | haste | aaw |
| 20:36.54 | haste | I just want to tell you: Don't copy! Don't copy that floppy! |
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| 20:37.37 | Tekkub | oh yea, have the MS comics about piracy gone out yet? I need some funny reading |
| 20:38.07 | ckknight | lol, Tekkub |
| 20:38.28 | haste | Seriously tho', the "Don't copy that floppy" rap from 1992 wins the internet |
| 20:38.43 | deltron | Tekkub: lol your first post? |
| 20:38.56 | CIA-17 | 03mok * r26880 10GemList/GemList.lua: |
| 20:38.56 | CIA-17 | GemList: |
| 20:38.57 | CIA-17 | - version numbering |
| 20:40.12 | kergoth`food | deltron: so learn :) |
| 20:40.27 | deltron | kergoth`food: i'm lazy! and busy! and lazy! |
| 20:40.31 | kergoth`food | yay for food coma conflicting with my triple venti hazelnut cappuccino |
| 20:40.42 | kergoth`food | hehe |
| 20:40.52 | kergoth`food | ~larson's rule #1 of open source |
| 20:41.17 | purl | One must reach the level of sufficient annoyance in order to overcome a developer's laziness and thereby cause productivity. Or it must be a really cool hack. |
| 20:41.17 | gnorlish | what the heck is venti |
| 20:41.17 | kergoth`food | bah |
| 20:41.18 | gnorlish | and why do you have 3 of it |
| 20:41.18 | kergoth`food | starbucks crappy size system |
| 20:41.18 | kergoth`food | its a fucking large |
| 20:41.30 | kenlyric | venti is italian for fatty |
| 20:41.39 | kergoth`food | somehow i'm not surprised |
| 20:41.49 | Stephmw | ~thursdays |
| 20:42.03 | haste | Which should say it all... |
| 20:42.24 | Stephmw | I've kicked the coffee habit |
| 20:42.53 | haste | I can't start a day without coffee :( |
| 20:43.04 | kergoth`food | ~thursady |
| 20:43.06 | kergoth`food | ~thurdsay |
| 20:43.35 | Stephmw | ~thursday |
| 20:43.37 | purl | "This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent) |
| 20:43.49 | Stephmw | hmmm |
| 20:44.01 | kenlyric | lousy smarch weather |
| 20:44.08 | kergoth`food | my original one was that it sucked because it wasnt friday, but someone overwrote it |
| 20:44.09 | Stephmw | kergoth`food: what happened to your freenode-renowned manic-depressive weekday descriptions? |
| 20:44.19 | kergoth`food | the rest are still htere |
| 20:44.22 | kergoth`food | ~friday |
| 20:44.23 | purl | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 20:44.28 | kergoth`food | ~botsnack |
| 20:44.28 | purl | kergoth`food: thanks |
| 20:44.39 | Stephmw | ah, good |
| 20:44.52 | haste | hah, I don't work/attend school on fridays :3 |
| 20:45.11 | haste | so here, thursdays sucks, because it should be weekend |
| 20:45.56 | steev64 | i can play wow at work, sooooo... work doesn't really suck |
| 20:46.09 | Stephmw | steev64: how does that work? |
| 20:46.14 | Stephmw | working from home? |
| 20:46.25 | steev64 | Stephmw: nope, i work at the companies office |
| 20:46.28 | steev64 | its a "morale" thing |
| 20:46.34 | kenlyric | playing wow at work rocks. |
| 20:46.47 | haste | I would just end up coding =\ |
| 20:46.52 | kenlyric | I'd be so freakin bored if I couldn't game at work. |
| 20:46.59 | steev64 | of course, work also has me looking at porn, so... |
| 20:47.10 | steev64 | best of both worlds |
| 20:47.46 | Stephmw | now I'm baffled ;) what do you do? |
| 20:48.49 | steev64 | remote system administration, database work, networking support/monitoring, content filtering |
| 20:49.03 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26881 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.lua: SpyGnome: More safeguards, fix a typo. |
| 20:49.14 | chutwig | work has me playing WoW all day most of the time now because it's pretty quiet |
| 20:49.23 | chutwig | i am making good progress on my mage |
| 20:49.26 | Stephmw | steev64: ahhh, content filtering |
| 20:50.05 | steev64 | i would actually play more |
| 20:50.05 | steev64 | but |
| 20:50.15 | steev64 | there is this friggin level 27 hunter that won't leave me alone |
| 20:50.16 | CIA-17 | 03derkyle * r26882 10ItemSync/ItemSync_Fubar.lua: |
| 20:50.16 | CIA-17 | ItemSync: |
| 20:50.16 | CIA-17 | - Update: Small fix for tooltip issues in Fubar Plugin of ItemSync. |
| 20:50.25 | steev64 | keeps telling me i used to hang out with him when i was level 25 |
| 20:51.08 | kergoth`food | 1) report him for harassment 2) move on with your day |
| 20:51.10 | kergoth`food | :P |
| 20:51.48 | steev64 | i never report people, pointless |
| 20:52.14 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.31 | steev64 | i just minimize the wim window and ignore it |
| 20:52.45 | Cartas | Does the creator of XRS Come in here often? |
| 20:52.48 | steev64 | but it still makes me want to play less |
| 20:53.01 | steev64 | like my rogue is only 64 |
| 20:53.04 | kergoth`food | if its affecting your desire to play, i'd report it |
| 20:53.06 | steev64 | but my blood elf rogue is 23! |
| 20:53.26 | steev64 | my sword rogue is 38 |
| 20:53.53 | kergoth`food | sheesh, how many rogues do you have |
| 20:53.53 | steev64 | total? or on that server |
| 20:53.57 | chutwig | WoW froze right in the middle of this IAE |
| 20:53.58 | chutwig | it looked cool :o |
| 20:54.08 | steev64 | i <3 rogue |
| 20:54.14 | steev64 | i tried warrior, and i suck at the tank |
| 20:54.29 | steev64 | when i last tried priest, i had so much lag, i just all around failed |
| 20:54.41 | steev64 | i had only 256mb of ram then though |
| 20:54.52 | kenlyric | what would you do with more than one rogue? |
| 20:54.59 | kenlyric | one of every race? |
| 20:54.59 | kergoth`food | i'm pretty happy with my 63 troll rogue, though i did think about switching to belf |
| 20:55.08 | deltron | IAE? |
| 20:55.12 | steev64 | i will not play a huntard (as it happens, the guy who messages me is a huntard) |
| 20:55.17 | steev64 | close ken |
| 20:55.21 | chutwig | arcane explosion |
| 20:55.24 | kenlyric | I have one of every class. |
| 20:55.26 | steev64 | i've wanted a bloodelf ever since it was announced |
| 20:55.41 | chutwig | it seems weird to call it AE because i remember when it had a cast time |
| 20:55.53 | steev64 | and the mana tap thingie is nice fora quick energy recover thing |
| 20:55.56 | _neuron_ | [Ammo], wtb default position of necronomicon CENTER, it put itself neatly under some of my action bars |
| 20:56.12 | _neuron_ | [Ammo], also wtb rename to something I can spell, writing /necronomicon is damn complicated :P |
| 20:56.23 | Fisker- | /nm |
| 20:56.28 | Fisker- | !1 |
| 20:56.28 | steev64 | kenlyric: different races have different racial abilities - my main rogue is a NE, and has the stealth bonus and whatnot |
| 20:56.32 | _neuron_ | Fisker-, now your just being difficult |
| 20:56.48 | Mok | is there a way to determine the color of a line in a tooltip? |
| 20:57.00 | _neuron_ | steev64, some people might think you have a fetish |
| 20:57.05 | kenlyric | steev64: yeah, I gotta call that insanity :) |
| 20:57.08 | _neuron_ | that whole "rogues do it from behind" thing :P |
| 20:57.12 | kenlyric | people call me nuts for having every class :) |
| 20:57.34 | kenlyric | I'd like to have one of every class on each faction, but meh, 10 char limit. |
| 20:58.08 | steev64 | my sword rogue is a human |
| 20:58.08 | kergoth`food | i play all sorts of classes, but i always seem to come back to my rogue for some reason |
| 20:58.28 | Amadeo | Rouges are Overpowdered |
| 20:58.34 | _neuron_ | haha |
| 20:58.38 | kenlyric | <3 priest. Never even a question if I have to choose. |
| 20:58.41 | steev64 | wtf is a rouge |
| 20:58.44 | steev64 | lern2spell n00b |
| 20:58.49 | _neuron_ | haha |
| 20:58.52 | deltron | http://www.getacoder.com/projects/need_operating_system_42879.html |
| 20:58.53 | deltron | lol |
| 20:59.21 | Amadeo | it's just what I said ;) |
| 20:59.45 | kenlyric | <3 Auction Successful |
| 20:59.56 | arJUna|wrk | i can't play my rog anymore...seem week compared to just about anything else |
| 21:00.17 | arJUna|wrk | was sword before BC, switched to daggers |
| 21:00.30 | kenlyric | I've considered rolling my second batch of 10 on a pvp server, to give it a shot. |
| 21:00.35 | kagaro | ck: ping |
| 21:00.37 | deltron | I've made like 160G just auctioning off my lowend enchanting mats |
| 21:00.42 | arJUna|wrk | my shadow priest can waste mobs alot quicker, my hunter owns BGs much better |
| 21:00.49 | kenlyric | but, zomg, flying epic mount fills my brain. |
| 21:00.58 | kergoth`food | i quite enjoy mutilate |
| 21:00.58 | steev64 | waste of money |
| 21:01.15 | steev64 | yeah, im planning on getting mutilate on my be rogue |
| 21:01.22 | arJUna|wrk | what's ur spec? i'm on 5/28/28 with daggers |
| 21:01.29 | arJUna|wrk | (or something like that) |
| 21:01.48 | steev64 | http://www.rpgoutfitter.com/WoW-GM/char.cfm?char=Solene@US-Draka |
| 21:01.59 | steev64 | thats my NE rogue |
| 21:02.07 | steev64 | its a bit different though, i need to update his stuffs |
| 21:02.55 | steev64 | http://www.rpgoutfitter.com/WoW-GM/char.cfm?char=Vanthirian@US-Draka |
| 21:02.59 | steev64 | my BE rogue |
| 21:03.22 | steev64 | and i also need to update him |
| 21:03.27 | steev64 | he isn't in that stupid guild any more |
| 21:03.31 | ckknight | kagaro: pong |
| 21:03.32 | steev64 | was run by a huntard |
| 21:03.57 | kagaro | ck: you added some method sot locale for reverse lookups the other day didnt you ? or refactored it .. i cant remember the checking note |
| 21:04.02 | Amadeo | I had a 65 Mage kill my Warrior in 3 casts yesterday |
| 21:04.06 | deltron | hah someone uses rpgoutfitter other than me :) |
| 21:04.24 | steev64 | deltron: my main guild uses it, otherwise i wouldn't |
| 21:04.34 | steev64 | my buddy has a copy of it up on a server and i normally use that |
| 21:04.35 | ckknight | sot? |
| 21:04.53 | deltron | steev64: heh my old guild started to use it, I'm using it now |
| 21:04.53 | steev64 | sons of teremus! |
| 21:05.01 | ckknight | kagaro: well, BC.reverse["Hexenmeister"] == "Warlock" |
| 21:05.03 | deltron | yeah I want to run my own page, I'm just lazy |
| 21:05.14 | steev64 | don't bother |
| 21:05.16 | steev64 | its borked |
| 21:05.27 | steev64 | they haven't released any updates for it either |
| 21:05.44 | deltron | yeah |
| 21:05.47 | steev64 | it just keeps refusing to accept uploads saying the date/version is too old |
| 21:05.47 | Pneumatus | i'm probably being a div here, but i'm working on my very first Ace2'd addon... and i've got a function that checks if a string is an item link... does something like this exist in a library somewhere already? |
| 21:05.48 | kagaro | ck: return a nil if no translation or does it stil error? |
| 21:05.50 | deltron | kinda like eqdkp :P |
| 21:06.02 | ckknight | kagaro: error. |
| 21:06.05 | deltron | I'm not sure what's gonna happen with it |
| 21:06.07 | kagaro | ck: thanks |
| 21:06.09 | ckknight | kagaro: works just like BC["Warlock"] |
| 21:06.12 | ckknight | only in reverse. |
| 21:06.13 | Ordog | somebody into tcl and further namespaces containing arrays? |
| 21:06.25 | kagaro | ck: kk its less typing for usre |
| 21:06.34 | ckknight | it's faster. |
| 21:07.06 | deltron | ugh last eqdkp update is august 6th, 2006 |
| 21:07.11 | deltron | wtb better dkp tracker |
| 21:07.24 | deltron | though I'm not going to be using dkp tracking heh |
| 21:07.46 | ckknight | anyone know when 2.1.0 will come out? |
| 21:07.48 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:08.10 | deltron | http://www.rpgoutfitter.com/wow-gm/char.cfm?char=Diode@US-Suramar&action=equipment <-- heh I got rid of a lot of that gear also |
| 21:08.27 | deltron | well not that gear |
| 21:08.31 | deltron | but gear I had stored up |
| 21:08.37 | Amadeo | I dunno ckknight, but I hope they do something about the lack of Warrior gear! |
| 21:08.40 | Amadeo | in 2.1 |
| 21:08.50 | ckknight | ah, no one cares about those guys. |
| 21:08.57 | ckknight | I just care about the API changes anyway. |
| 21:09.00 | Amadeo | if I had a Paladin, I'd have the best gear ever! |
| 21:09.19 | deltron | lol |
| 21:09.24 | deltron | there's so much pally gear |
| 21:09.41 | kenlyric | and durid gear. |
| 21:09.43 | Amadeo | It gets frustrating |
| 21:09.52 | Amadeo | Everytime I do a quest, if I see plate, I know I can't wear it |
| 21:10.01 | Amadeo | so most of my gear just goes without upgrades |
| 21:10.02 | arJUna|wrk | man, those dru staves are nice...+300AP in form? jeez |
| 21:10.11 | deltron | those are insane |
| 21:10.28 | kenlyric | all those staffs should have a transformation ability :) |
| 21:10.30 | NeoTron | nothing compares to the cenarion expedition exhalted staff |
| 21:10.35 | ckknight | Amadeo: why can't you wear it? +heal? |
| 21:10.41 | PogoTribal | It's retardedly overpowered. |
| 21:10.43 | deltron | I get some real nice hybrid gear for my shammy |
| 21:10.47 | kenlyric | NeoTron: yeah, but then you have to get exalted with CE. |
| 21:11.02 | PogoTribal | The way all the hybrid/melee classes are getting loot, especially feral druids. |
| 21:11.22 | Amadeo | ckknight: I can wear it, but it's just the wrong type of gear for me...usually has Intellect and stuff |
| 21:11.29 | ckknight | ah |
| 21:11.35 | Amadeo | and as you said, healing or spell damage |
| 21:12.13 | ckknight | gtg |
| 21:12.14 | kenlyric | +healing should add to what healing spells do to you. |
| 21:12.16 | PogoTribal | Hunters get screwed too. If I were a hunter I'd go back to wearing leather. |
| 21:12.37 | arJUna|wrk | http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/warhammer-online/759615p1.html |
| 21:12.59 | Barbanus | kenlyric, funny story |
| 21:13.06 | Barbanus | we had a warrior apply to our guild |
| 21:13.10 | Amadeo | yay, I can't wait for Warhammer |
| 21:13.32 | Barbanus | he was wearing whitesoul helm |
| 21:13.54 | Barbanus | you know, the +11 int, +11 spirit, 35 healing helm? |
| 21:14.08 | Barbanus | I asked him, wtf are you wearing that for? |
| 21:14.16 | Barbanus | His reply "people can heal me better" |
| 21:14.21 | kergoth | lol |
| 21:14.32 | kenlyric | APPLICATION REJECTED |
| 21:14.34 | PogoTribal | Well, the way it's worded, a noob could easily be confused. |
| 21:14.38 | Barbanus | needless to say, he was rejected |
| 21:14.49 | PogoTribal | Increases damage and healing DONE BY magical spells and effects |
| 21:14.52 | kenlyric | what level is whitesoul helm? |
| 21:14.59 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26883 10nQuestLog/moduleLoading.lua: nQuestLog : Hide finished objectives even when manually watching objective |
| 21:15.05 | Barbanus | 55 |
| 21:15.13 | Stephmw | no excuse then |
| 21:15.35 | PogoTribal | Of course there's an excuse. |
| 21:15.41 | PogoTribal | There's nothing in the manual about it. |
| 21:15.48 | kenlyric | I consider the end of my noobishness to be when I figured out Fade didn't make me less appealing to mobs while I was *alone*... and that only took until the late teens. |
| 21:15.58 | PogoTribal | It's common knowledge so no one mentions out of the blue what +healing does. |
| 21:16.35 | PogoTribal | And if he was never inspected by someone who asked the same question, 55 is attainable without knowing that it doesn't help being healed. |
| 21:16.46 | PogoTribal | So, you should have explained it to him before rejecting him. |
| 21:17.01 | NeoTron | there aer still level 60+ priests that believe that fade is a permanent reduction in threat... |
| 21:17.11 | kenlyric | yeah, but if you have to teach him that, how many other things doesn't he know? |
| 21:17.14 | Barbanus | kenlyric, what about the ones who still think fade is a permenant reduction |
| 21:17.33 | Barbanus | PogoTribal, oh, I explained it. |
| 21:17.33 | NeoTron | heck I've been told in threat sensitive fights to hit fade as soon as it's up |
| 21:17.35 | Barbanus | He said he tested it |
| 21:17.42 | Barbanus | He explained I was an idiot |
| 21:17.58 | Barbanus | and argued with me for 20 mins about it |
| 21:18.12 | Barbanus | NeoTron, lol |
| 21:18.18 | PogoTribal | I remember at level 5 arguing with someone who thought I was "stealing" his quest drops when we were grouped in Group Loot mode. |
| 21:18.18 | Codayus | NeoTron: That's not a bad idea, really. |
| 21:18.23 | NeoTron | it is |
| 21:18.35 | NeoTron | it almost ensures your fade will be on CD when you really need it |
| 21:18.40 | Codayus | Well...depends on which fight your talking about. |
| 21:18.43 | NeoTron | i.e when /if you pull aggro |
| 21:18.44 | NeoTron | any fight |
| 21:19.00 | Barbanus | its a very bad idea, fade should be used reactively, and you should actually announce when you use it .. so the tank knows to get his shit together |
| 21:19.03 | NeoTron | but typically fights like firemaw, nefarian stage 2 etc |
| 21:19.18 | Cyrez | I was just thinking... It'd be neat if there were a few class-specific tradeskill recipes. |
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| 21:19.33 | Codayus | Well, okay, I've actually never used fade on those fights. |
| 21:19.34 | NeoTron | if you use it when proactively it doesn't do anything |
| 21:19.35 | Barbanus | if it was a permenant reduction in aggro .. yes, every time it is up .. hit it. |
| 21:19.37 | PogoTribal | Rogues get a class-specific cooking recipe, that's about it. |
| 21:19.43 | NeoTron | if anything you will get aggro when it runs out without a way to fade again |
| 21:19.51 | kenlyric | actually, little known fact - fade actually stays in effect until you add more threat. |
| 21:19.54 | Barbanus | NeoTron, haha yea .. exactly. |
| 21:19.57 | NeoTron | basically it's not feint |
| 21:20.07 | Barbanus | kenlyric, yea .. that is true. |
| 21:20.18 | Barbanus | you can hit fade, wait 1 min before casting another heal |
| 21:20.21 | NeoTron | kenlyric: but how often do you fade and then just stand there for 30 seconds? |
| 21:20.26 | PogoTribal | Using that fact will get your party killed. |
| 21:20.26 | Codayus | In razor, depending on strat, fading when you don't have aggro can be an okay idea... |
| 21:20.34 | Cyrez | Yeah, but I wanna see more. Like if mages could craft limited-use trinkets with certain spell effects. |
| 21:20.35 | NeoTron | Codayus: no |
| 21:20.40 | kergoth | i wish they'd do something with that rogue faction in hillsbrad that gives us nothing |
| 21:20.41 | NeoTron | Codayus: especially not on razor |
| 21:20.41 | Barbanus | NeoTron, if healing is fine .. and you are gonna pull aggro and die .. why not? |
| 21:20.43 | deltron | On its own Web site, Apple Inc. tells visitors to get a Mac, stating, "Why upgrade to Vista when you can upgrade past it?" |
| 21:20.47 | deltron | lol |
| 21:21.13 | NeoTron | Codayus: that's a fight where you very much want fade to be available when needed or you'll fade, heal and get aggro when fade goes away |
| 21:21.13 | chutwig | i hate "Apple Inc." |
| 21:21.17 | chutwig | apple computer! |
| 21:21.18 | chutwig | always apple computer |
| 21:21.21 | kenlyric | I hit fade every time it's up on vael. |
| 21:21.25 | kenlyric | chutwig, apple makes computers? |
| 21:21.44 | deltron | apple makes os x to sell computers |
| 21:21.50 | deltron | and ipods :P |
| 21:21.51 | NeoTron | vael might be one place where it doesn't hurt... pulling aggro theer could mean a wipe |
| 21:21.58 | kenlyric | god how I missed having holy nova on vael. |
| 21:21.58 | chutwig | pretty much |
| 21:22.02 | NeoTron | of course with holy nova as a primary healing spell you'll never pull aggro |
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| 21:22.18 | OvrLrd-Q | kergoth: what rogue faction? |
| 21:22.29 | NeoTron | actually even without holy nova (but with salvation) I never once pulled aggro with either druid or priest |
| 21:22.47 | kenlyric | well, it's less about pulling aggro as it is not being in the top 10 on the threat list :) |
| 21:22.48 | Barbanus | NeoTron, if you pull aggro from healing on vael .... |
| 21:22.49 | Codayus | I saw a priest pull agro once, but I think a paladin forgot to salve him. |
| 21:22.52 | NeoTron | that said I have two trinkets now taht permanently reduce threat :) |
| 21:22.55 | Barbanus | the warriors need to l2sunderspam |
| 21:23.01 | NeoTron | Barbanus: no kidding |
| 21:23.02 | Codayus | And yes, he did it from healing only. oO |
| 21:23.07 | Barbanus | they have unlimited rage ... there is no way in hell that should be possible |
| 21:23.09 | kergoth | OvrLrd-Q: umm... ravenholde? i can never remember the name |
| 21:23.12 | deltron | you guys and your paladins :P |
| 21:23.17 | NeoTron | although |
| 21:23.21 | deltron | pallies (were) a crutch! |
| 21:23.28 | OvrLrd-Q | then I guess you've never played a rogue if ytou think they give nothing :) |
| 21:23.29 | NightHawkTheSane | OvrLrd-Q: Ravenholdt |
| 21:23.34 | NeoTron | if you don't have salvation and believe it's not a resist fight, you can pull aggor from the raw amount of healing you do |
| 21:23.43 | NeoTron | the better the FR the lower the chance of healer aggro |
| 21:23.47 | Barbanus | heh, I love my paladin's passive 50% reduction in threat from heals :P |
| 21:23.48 | NightHawkTheSane | And they do give you nothing |
| 21:23.49 | NeoTron | which is why FR was more important to horde.. |
| 21:24.00 | deltron | I've pulled aggro healing on vael many times |
| 21:24.01 | NeoTron | Barbanus: isn't it 75% reduction even? |
| 21:24.02 | OvrLrd-Q | training and quests |
| 21:24.09 | chutwig | it's definitely not 75% reduction |
| 21:24.17 | Barbanus | NeoTron, I'm not sure ... its at least 50% though. |
| 21:24.20 | NeoTron | deltron: did you use FR? |
| 21:24.21 | chutwig | i think blizzard was quoted as saying paladin heals are 33% lower than a priest |
| 21:24.24 | chutwig | and shaman heals are 33% higher |
| 21:24.25 | Codayus | We have (had, I guess) our priests in max FR on Vael. |
| 21:24.36 | NeoTron | never the less I've never seen a paladin get healing aggro even after all other healers are dead |
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| 21:24.45 | NeoTron | not until the tanks are down and DPS is down do they usually get aggro :P |
| 21:24.50 | kenlyric | it's even better once your warriors learn to use execute. |
| 21:24.52 | OvrLrd-Q | NightHawkTheSane: they also give you your level 50 ST quest |
| 21:24.57 | NeoTron | chutwig: shaman heals are not higher threat |
| 21:24.57 | deltron | NeoTron: yep, full FR, which is about 250 or so |
| 21:25.04 | NeoTron | only paladin have different threat per heal |
| 21:25.10 | chutwig | NeoTron: shaman heals are definitely high-threat |
| 21:25.13 | deltron | shaman heals generate an insane amount of threat |
| 21:25.22 | deltron | I used to be able to heal tank :) |
| 21:25.22 | OvrLrd-Q | also |
| 21:25.24 | NightHawkTheSane | OvrLrd-Q: right, so 2 quests and a worthless faction that you can't raise above friendly? Thanks, but no thanks. |
| 21:25.27 | OvrLrd-Q | they have to do with the valentine event |
| 21:25.32 | Barbanus | According to wowwiki .. its 50% |
| 21:25.32 | kenlyric | we spent a week after a bad night of vael with the priests trying to convince warriors that they needed to use execute on the vael fight. Read that a few timies to let it sink in, then consider how stupid our tanks were... |
| 21:25.37 | Barbanus | "Innate Ability -50% to all Healing spells" |
| 21:25.40 | chutwig | Barbanus: do they have the math? |
| 21:25.43 | OvrLrd-Q | and you can get to exalted with them NightHawkTheSane |
| 21:25.44 | Barbanus | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Aggro |
| 21:26.09 | NightHawkTheSane | OvrLrd-Q: you can? i never saw a way, but I never tried.. because it's -worthless- |
| 21:26.12 | Codayus | kenlyric: Every time I read that, it sounds even stupider. |
| 21:26.23 | Codayus | There are so many things wrong with it, it makes me want to cry. |
| 21:26.30 | NightHawkTheSane | It's a half implemented idea that shoudl have been scrapped or developed ten patches ago |
| 21:26.34 | OvrLrd-Q | NightHawkTheSane: It may be worthless now, however I wouldn't be surprised if a rogue epic quest involves them |
| 21:26.57 | kergoth | i'd be very surprised |
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| 21:27.07 | kenlyric | Codayus: it was really hard to be diplomatic, I'll tell you that :) |
| 21:27.17 | kenlyric | like, is he at 30% health because of lolore? |
| 21:27.23 | NightHawkTheSane | OvrLrd-Q: rogue epic quest? a la benediction? Nope, blizz has stated that class epic quests like that were a bad idea |
| 21:27.51 | Codayus | For a while, we told our warriors NOT to use execute because they were having too many problems with staling aggro and not getting into position. I thought THAT was a sign of us having bad warriors. |
| 21:27.55 | kenlyric | yeah, especially because they made the priest one such a cakewalk. |
| 21:28.14 | Codayus | But needing execute to stop priests stealing aggro? I don't even know what to say... |
| 21:28.33 | kenlyric | nonono.. needing to execute because that's how you make vael die. |
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| 21:28.51 | Codayus | Oh, that's a little better. |
| 21:28.53 | kenlyric | they weren't using execute *at all* |
| 21:28.59 | NeoTron | and shamans do NOT have innate more threat per heal |
| 21:29.00 | Codayus | ..... |
| 21:29.03 | NeoTron | it's still 0.5 threat per point |
| 21:29.19 | Arrowmaster | if you dont execute vael then your not doing the fight correctly |
| 21:29.37 | deltron | NeoTron: we don't have much threat reduction, only 15% through talents |
| 21:29.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Why are you arguing about vael? does vael even matter anymore? o_0 |
| 21:30.03 | kenlyric | even if you're too stupid to realize that infinite rage means execute is your best damage spell by far, the fact that he's at 30% to start with should be a HUGE HINT |
| 21:30.19 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: we're talking about idiots :) |
| 21:30.22 | NeoTron | deltron: that might be true, but it's no increase, just less decrease if anythin |
| 21:30.29 | kenlyric | errr, best damage ability |
| 21:30.42 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: well, i see that, but still... :P |
| 21:31.19 | kenlyric | that's ok. I later found out that the warrior class leader didn't have beserker stance. |
| 21:31.36 | deltron | NeoTron: hmm, well, depending on playstyle of the shaman, some use lesser healing wave exclusively, meaning they are tossing out a ton of 1.5 sec heals |
| 21:31.39 | kenlyric | so it was pretty obvious why he had to be told by priests how to play his class. |
| 21:31.48 | NeoTron | deltron: doesn't matter how they heal |
| 21:31.49 | Codayus | kenlyric: If you get a DPS warrior who starts spamming execute from the second it becomes possible, it's very easy for him to pull aggro. Not executing at all is suboptimal, but it's not too hard to wipe a raid using execute either. <shrug> |
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| 21:32.01 | NeoTron | a large number of priests live on flash heal which is better than the shaman version |
| 21:32.08 | NeoTron | or at least very similar |
| 21:32.12 | kenlyric | Codayus: well, generally they execute while tanking. |
| 21:32.12 | deltron | sure, it's more efficient |
| 21:32.17 | deltron | costs less mana |
| 21:32.27 | Amadeo | Shaman version is almost identical |
| 21:32.31 | Codayus | kenlyric: Really? <shrug> We didn't. :-) |
| 21:32.44 | chutwig | priests also have silent resolve and fade |
| 21:33.01 | Tornhoof | chainheal > * ;) |
| 21:33.03 | NeoTron | so the diference is that shamans have 15% reduction from talents and priests have 20% |
| 21:33.05 | deltron | I got that threat reduction trinket! |
| 21:33.07 | deltron | Tornhoof: word! |
| 21:33.24 | NeoTron | I got a second one from a lvl 70 instance. |
| 21:33.27 | NeoTron | somewhat better |
| 21:33.31 | deltron | Tornhoof: especially since my chain heals crit for 2400+ now :) |
| 21:33.57 | deltron | Tornhoof: thanks for yata btw :) |
| 21:33.57 | Amadeo | Priest - http://www.thottbot.com/?sp=25235 Shaman - http://www.thottbot.com/?sp=25420 |
| 21:34.00 | Amadeo | Pretty much identical |
| 21:34.06 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: The trinket from shadow lab? |
| 21:34.13 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 21:34.23 | NightHawkTheSane | ... what's the CD on that. is it actually.. uh.. good? |
| 21:34.35 | kenlyric | I get all excited when I see those trinkets/cloaks which have an active threat reduction bonus. Then I remember. |
| 21:34.48 | NightHawkTheSane | According to thott, the threat reduction is like about 1k, which seems a bit weak |
| 21:35.16 | NeoTron | paladin: 0.25 threat / healed, priest: 0.4 threat / healed, shaman: 0.425 threat / healed |
| 21:36.10 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: it's not a whole lot... but fade highest level is 1150 oor something |
| 21:36.10 | NeoTron | so it's something |
| 21:36.10 | NeoTron | more like "oh shit aggro, use it and hold of' ability |
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| 21:36.11 | chutwig | fade doesn't actually reduce aggro, it works like an anti-taunt |
| 21:36.11 | cladhaire | ... |
| 21:36.11 | NightHawkTheSane | I guess, just seems kinda weak as a trinket |
| 21:36.11 | chutwig | you stay at the same point on the hate list |
| 21:36.11 | deltron | heh I get a lot of aggro healing sometimes |
| 21:36.11 | NeoTron | druids == priests for threat per healed |
| 21:36.13 | Antiarc|Work | Fade reduces aggro, but only temporarily. |
| 21:36.17 | NeoTron | right |
| 21:36.23 | Antiarc|Work | It doesn't put you below the top of the threat list automatically, like an anti-taunt would |
| 21:36.24 | kenlyric | you do move. |
| 21:36.40 | chutwig | if a warrior does some amount of damage, then you heal enough to pull aggro and fade, the mob will return to the warrior |
| 21:36.43 | kenlyric | yeah, it's possible to fade and not lose aggro :) |
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| 21:36.43 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests: |
| 21:36.43 | CIA-17 | - fixed note registering bug, really, |
| 21:36.44 | CIA-17 | - should recover badly registered quests. |
| 21:36.48 | kenlyric | nothing scarier than that :) |
| 21:36.52 | NeoTron | http://thottbot.com/?sp=25429 |
| 21:36.57 | NeoTron | Apply Aura: Mod Total Threat (Fade) |
| 21:36.58 | NeoTron | Value: -1170 |
| 21:36.59 | deltron | shield yourselves :P |
| 21:37.06 | Antiarc|Work | chutwig: Yes, because Fade drops enough threat that the warrior tops the threat list again. |
| 21:37.17 | Antiarc|Work | If you out-threat the warrior by enough, Fade won't return aggro to him. |
| 21:37.18 | kenlyric | when I was first doing molten giants, if I would heal the tank too soon, I'd pull him on me and fade would do nothing :) |
| 21:37.20 | chutwig | fair enough |
| 21:37.54 | Antiarc|Work | Warrior has 1500 threat, you have 1700, fade puts you at 530, warrior has threat. |
| 21:38.01 | NeoTron | basically fades removes threat equivalent to almost 3000 points healed |
| 21:38.02 | chutwig | i was under the impression it worked like my bubble, which displaces me from the hate list and doesn't put me back on it until i cast again |
| 21:38.08 | chutwig | but when i do cast i'm back to my previous position |
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| 21:38.11 | Antiarc|Work | Warrior has 1500 threat, you have 3000, fade puts you at 1830, you still have aggro. |
| 21:38.22 | kenlyric | chutwig, you're back at your previous number. |
| 21:38.28 | cladhaire | chutwig: Position is a misnomer. |
| 21:38.30 | kenlyric | but y ou may be in a different position, or you may not. |
| 21:38.30 | cladhaire | you keep mis speaking. |
| 21:38.41 | cladhaire | what kenlyric said is correct. |
| 21:38.52 | cladhaire | None of the spells in teh game are "magic".. they all do something very specific |
| 21:39.00 | NeoTron | I must say thottbot is superior in finding out exactly what a weird spell does |
| 21:39.02 | kenlyric | people keep generating threat (and you do to, if you keep doing stuff) |
| 21:39.20 | Barbanus | a priest standing in melee range has to be the most retarded thing I have ever seen, BTW |
| 21:39.35 | NeoTron | http://thottbot.com/?sp=32599 <-- that's the spell from hypnotist's watch |
| 21:39.38 | _neuron_ | hm, my bartender3 pet bar is missing one of my pet's abilities ( /cast <ability> works, so it's there, just not on the bar) |
| 21:39.43 | NeoTron | which is a permanent threat reduction by 720 |
| 21:39.48 | NeoTron | to all mobs within 30 yrd |
| 21:39.52 | Barbanus | most people dont know that being in melee range means you only have to exceed threat by 10% to get aggro, and 30% when you are at range |
| 21:40.04 | deltron | tranquil air isn't even that great either |
| 21:40.08 | Scre3m | Barbanus, i did not know that at all |
| 21:40.15 | NeoTron | http://thottbot.com/?sp=29858 |
| 21:40.21 | Barbanus | whne ever I see a priest get smacked cause they are standing next to onyxia ... I laugh ... hard. |
| 21:40.23 | chutwig | tranquil air is pretty poor compared to salv |
| 21:40.28 | NeoTron | that is warlock soulshatter that reduces threat by 50% to all mobs within 50 yards |
| 21:40.47 | Scre3m | i normally stay at max range as a priest anyways, just out of instinct |
| 21:40.49 | deltron | tranquil air got nerfed in favor of salv |
| 21:40.59 | Scre3m | but i didnt know range was part of the aggro calculations |
| 21:41.07 | Barbanus | Scre3m, thats why when a range pulls aggro, its usually a chain reaction.... |
| 21:41.20 | NeoTron | that's why if you get aggro it's harder for the warrior to get aggro back if you remain in melee range |
| 21:41.23 | Scre3m | i'll be darned |
| 21:41.25 | Barbanus | all of the range are then in melee range, and the mob goes around smacking things |
| 21:41.36 | deltron | that's why you run at the tanks :) |
| 21:41.44 | Barbanus | deltron, indeed |
| 21:41.44 | Scre3m | that is VERY good to know, ill be passing that on to me guild right now |
| 21:41.45 | NightHawkTheSane | (that's also why every primarymelee dps class has inherent 20% threat reduction) |
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| 21:42.03 | Barbanus | Scre3m, http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Aggro |
| 21:42.10 | NeoTron | every = druid and rogue |
| 21:42.14 | NeoTron | :) |
| 21:42.19 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: Warriors in battle/zerker too |
| 21:42.24 | NightHawkTheSane | druids only in kitty |
| 21:43.02 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: are you sure? |
| 21:43.03 | NeoTron | is that new? |
| 21:43.03 | chutwig | warriors get the reduction |
| 21:43.03 | NightHawkTheSane | er... yes and no |
| 21:43.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Warriors have had the reduction for as far as i recall |
| 21:43.03 | chutwig | paladins and shamans do not |
| 21:43.03 | Antiarc|Work | Driuds got the reduction fairly recently, but not super recently |
| 21:43.03 | NeoTron | ok didn't know that |
| 21:43.09 | Antiarc|Work | Warriors have had the reduction since launch |
| 21:43.09 | NeoTron | they still have the problem with lacking a feint-like ability though |
| 21:43.09 | chutwig | which will probably cause a lot of grief from enhancement shaman |
| 21:43.11 | NightHawkTheSane | druids only recently got it sometime in the past 5ish patches? |
| 21:43.15 | Barbanus | Yes, it is true |
| 21:43.16 | Antiarc|Work | Sounds right. |
| 21:43.16 | chutwig | druids got it recently |
| 21:43.20 | Barbanus | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Aggro |
| 21:43.23 | Barbanus | it shows all of it :) |
| 21:43.33 | Barbanus | def stance is actually 50 |
| 21:43.38 | Barbanus | 50% more than battle stance |
| 21:43.43 | deltron | enhancement shaman = suicide shaman for the most part |
| 21:43.45 | Antiarc|Work | Fun fact: Threat modifiers also affect -threat abilities |
| 21:43.49 | NightHawkTheSane | And, to be sure, warriors have -20%, druids in kitty and rogues have -29% unless the warrior reduction was updated |
| 21:43.56 | Barbanus | battle stance = 80% threat, def = 130% |
| 21:44.03 | Antiarc|Work | So Feint is -X threat, but since I get an inherent -29% threat, it's actually -0.71X threat. |
| 21:44.18 | deltron | yes, I remember that |
| 21:44.24 | chutwig | i think that only works for generation, not for getting rid of it |
| 21:44.30 | Antiarc|Work | No, it works both ways. |
| 21:44.33 | chutwig | ah |
| 21:44.42 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, it works for anything that modifies threat |
| 21:44.44 | NeoTron | damn |
| 21:44.48 | Antiarc|Work | It works out to the same amount of damage done either way, but eh. |
| 21:44.49 | Barbanus | not sure if it is a bug though. |
| 21:44.52 | Antiarc|Work | It's not. |
| 21:44.56 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd imagine a priest's fade would actually fade for less with salv |
| 21:44.58 | NeoTron | highest rank feint reduces threat by 1050 |
| 21:45.01 | NeoTron | more than I thought |
| 21:45.29 | Antiarc|Work | Consider that a rogue in a raiding situation can be pulling 600+ DPS at 60, and then consider that Feint is on a 10-second cooldown... |
| 21:45.36 | Tain | Lots of Rogues spam Feint far more than they ever need to. |
| 21:45.56 | kenlyric | some don't spam it enough. |
| 21:45.56 | Antiarc|Work | Feint isn't necessary for most fights, really, as long as the rogue is smart. |
| 21:46.04 | kenlyric | all the massive dps rogues I know love feint and fanish. |
| 21:46.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Tain: probably, but sometimes it only takes a few bad experiences being a smear on the floor to want to spam it every CD :P |
| 21:46.07 | kenlyric | *vanish |
| 21:46.09 | steino_ | feint was only usefull in bwl |
| 21:46.13 | deltron | vanish is broken isn't it? |
| 21:46.14 | Antiarc|Work | It's useful on Vael >20%, and on Broodlord, and, uh...I don't know what else. |
| 21:46.14 | steino_ | as horde |
| 21:46.19 | Tain | Most boss fights for me is Feint once or twice, one Vanish, and smooth sailing. |
| 21:46.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Vanish isn't broken for threat wiping |
| 21:46.24 | Antiarc|Work | Vanish is broken, but it always clears threat. |
| 21:46.33 | break19 | Antiarc|Work: true, however, there is the 1 or 2 times that you accidentally *do* pull aggro.. 1 or 2 feints is usually all it'll take if the war knows his stuff too |
| 21:46.42 | Antiarc|Work | break19: That's what Vanish is for. :P |
| 21:46.45 | Tain | 2 Feints means a dead rogue. |
| 21:46.51 | Tain | If you have aggro for 20 seconds you're done. |
| 21:46.58 | break19 | Tain: I dont mean at once :p |
| 21:47.02 | Barbanus | lol uea. |
| 21:47.04 | Barbanus | yea* |
| 21:47.05 | Antiarc|Work | I'd rather Vanish and be safe than wait for energy, feint, and possibly not have it drop me below the threat I need to hit to drop aggro. |
| 21:47.09 | break19 | i mean during the course of the entire boss fight |
| 21:47.09 | NightHawkTheSane | hell, if you have agro for 5 you're probably done |
| 21:47.10 | cladhaire | you're assuming there's no knockbacks on the tank |
| 21:47.13 | cladhaire | which isn't realistic. |
| 21:47.27 | NeoTron | Tain: 2 feints = 10 seconds and then there's evasion |
| 21:47.39 | Antiarc|Work | For nearly any boss fight, you just vanish halfway through a fight and you're never going to catch up to the MT for the rest of the fight. |
| 21:48.08 | cladhaire | oh and by the way |
| 21:48.13 | cladhaire | if you want to learna nd understand threat |
| 21:48.15 | NeoTron | unless it's a wing buffet type fight where the threat reduction is either unavoidable or the taunt-offtanks suck :P |
| 21:48.17 | Antiarc|Work | Knockbacks can be an issue, but even with knockbacks, it's nearly always easymode. |
| 21:48.20 | cladhaire | try to do ony fully geared at 70 |
| 21:48.27 | Barbanus | cladhaire, haha yea. |
| 21:48.28 | Tain | Really though, I'm all for being cautious on a boss fight you're not familiar with and Feinting more, but nothing come to midn righ tnow that you *need* to Feint more than twice before Vanish at 50% |
| 21:48.34 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, I haven't been back to Ony yet. What's different? |
| 21:48.38 | break19 | Antiarc|Work: admittedly, my rogues have never made it to endgame.. but I just watch other rogues.. :) |
| 21:48.48 | Antiarc|Work | Tain: 100% agreed. |
| 21:48.51 | cladhaire | Antiarc|Work: Mitigation |
| 21:48.55 | Tain | Of course if you don't trust your tank to hold aggro, Feint spam! |
| 21:48.57 | cladhaire | warriors and druids can't generate enough rage |
| 21:49.03 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, right. |
| 21:49.06 | Tekkub | hey guys, I need some queick locale translations.... just two strings... |
| 21:49.10 | Antiarc|Work | Actually, that surprises me. |
| 21:49.12 | cladhaire | you have to de-gear yourself. |
| 21:49.19 | Antiarc|Work | Raid mobs usually hit hard enough that you're drowning in rage. |
| 21:49.22 | Tain | Druids generate lots of rage. Usually its from the other players who have to put up with them though. |
| 21:49.26 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahahah. |
| 21:49.29 | Amadeo | Druids generate Rage pretty well |
| 21:49.37 | Tekkub | please PM me translations: |
| 21:49.37 | cladhaire | Not against ony at 70 |
| 21:49.37 | Tekkub | "%s has not been translated into your language. Please contact <%s> for details on submitting translations." |
| 21:49.37 | Tekkub | "%s is only partially translated into your language. Please contact <%s> for details on submitting translations." |
| 21:49.39 | cladhaire | i know, we've done it. |
| 21:49.49 | Antiarc|Work | I'll take your word for it, but it just surprises me. |
| 21:49.52 | Amadeo | That makes sense though |
| 21:49.53 | Tain | Well stop piddling around with Ony at 70! |
| 21:49.58 | Amadeo | Ony is an old world boss |
| 21:50.06 | Antiarc|Work | Phase 2->3 Ony aggro is still wacky as hell though. |
| 21:50.11 | cladhaire | no its fun =) |
| 21:50.13 | NeoTron | cladhaire: did the tanks have good boss for 70 tanking? |
| 21:50.13 | cladhaire | i'm talking phase 1 |
| 21:50.20 | Mok | is someone aware of a method to find out if an item is socketed or not? |
| 21:50.29 | cladhaire | NeoTron: Hrm? |
| 21:50.33 | Tain | More dots! Who aggrod whelps! |
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| 21:51.13 | Amadeo | cladhaire: How many people does it take at 70? |
| 21:51.13 | cladhaire | 2 |
| 21:51.14 | kenlyric | wait, you mean 1 holy priest can't just smite ony down from 100 to 0? |
| 21:51.14 | Amadeo | haha |
| 21:51.14 | kenlyric | the pre-tbc hype lied? |
| 21:51.14 | NeoTron | cladhaire: were the tanks geared enough relatively speaking? |
| 21:51.14 | cladhaire | one shadow, one disc/holy |
| 21:51.14 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:51.15 | cladhaire | but its tough either way |
| 21:51.16 | NightHawkTheSane | which is one less than it took at 60 |
| 21:51.20 | cladhaire | NeoTron: The tanks were too well geared. |
| 21:51.24 | Barbanus | |
| 21:51.24 | Barbanus | Righteous Fury |
| 21:51.28 | Barbanus | oops |
| 21:51.48 | Antiarc|Work | I guess that since Ony isn't tuned for TBC stamina levels, even scaled, she doesn't hit too hard. |
| 21:51.50 | NeoTron | they already had 365 FR and such? |
| 21:51.51 | cladhaire | i'm meleeing scarlet monestary righ tnow. |
| 21:52.02 | Tain | cladhaire is a bully |
| 21:52.12 | Barbanus | What's funny is when you see a paladin with Righteous Fury on, and healing ... generating 60% more threat from their heals :P |
| 21:52.14 | Amadeo | You could have done SM at level 50! |
| 21:52.23 | break19 | Barbanus: heh |
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| 21:52.26 | Scre3m | ok, now i'm totally confused. someone give a summary on exactly how fade really works |
| 21:52.35 | Antiarc|Work | Fade is a temporary aggro reduction. |
| 21:52.40 | kenlyric | uh, read the scroll. |
| 21:52.41 | NeoTron | for X period of time, every mobs gets -X threat |
| 21:52.43 | Tain | Why don't you go beat up Van Cleef while you're at it |
| 21:52.47 | Barbanus | Scre3m, temporarily reduces aggro. |
| 21:52.47 | Antiarc|Work | For its duration, you have (your threat - fade's modifier) threat. |
| 21:52.52 | break19 | Barbanus: yea.. I gotta get onto our newbish pally from time to take |
| 21:52.56 | NeoTron | once the period of time is over, you regain that threat |
| 21:52.58 | break19 | s/take/time |
| 21:53.15 | Scre3m | you regain at same level u were? |
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| 21:53.23 | NeoTron | you temporarily lose X threat |
| 21:53.24 | Barbanus | break19, yea, I'm a paladin, so I see these things and it makes me mad, lol |
| 21:53.24 | Antiarc|Work | Well, no |
| 21:53.28 | NeoTron | yuou get it all back when it runs out |
| 21:53.30 | Antiarc|Work | Your current level + fade's modifier |
| 21:53.35 | Scre3m | all else static quo i mean |
| 21:53.41 | Antiarc|Work | All else static, yes. |
| 21:53.50 | NeoTron | if you do nothing while faded you go right back to where ou were yes |
| 21:53.55 | kenlyric | assuming y ou generate more threat during fade's active state... which you almost certaiinly will. |
| 21:54.01 | Antiarc|Work | You have 500 threat, fade reduces 100, you have 400 threat for the duration. Once Fade fades, you have 500 threat, if you take no other action. |
| 21:54.04 | Scre3m | say im at X, i hit fade, i'm now at x-n, when fade err fades, im back at x? |
| 21:54.13 | NeoTron | yes |
| 21:54.18 | cladhaire | well |
| 21:54.19 | kenlyric | if you do nothing. |
| 21:54.19 | Scre3m | ok thatz what i thought |
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| 21:54.24 | NeoTron | also note that each mob has their own threat level |
| 21:54.26 | cladhaire | you're at x, adjusted for the spells you cast while faded =) |
| 21:54.31 | Antiarc|Work | If you have 500 threat, fade reduces 100, you generate 500 more over the course of the fade bringing you to (500 - 100 + 500 = 900), then once Fade fades, you get +100 to bring you to 1000. |
| 21:54.34 | Scre3m | yes yes,i understand that |
| 21:54.38 | Scre3m | thanks :) |
| 21:54.51 | Lysithea | It's an emergency button if you get aggro, fade and the tank can get back ahead of you |
| 21:54.58 | Scre3m | basically, fades gives the group a chance to out aggro u |
| 21:55.02 | Antiarc|Work | Exactly. |
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| 21:55.08 | NeoTron | now the other big discussion is on how taunt works |
| 21:55.13 | Antiarc|Work | It's not a permanent reduction, so using it while you don't have aggro is kinda silly. |
| 21:55.18 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:55.25 | Antiarc|Work | Afternoon, ck |
| 21:55.27 | NeoTron | and as noted, often when you fade the mob goes to the high threat person that now is in melee range,,, |
| 21:55.33 | ckknight | how's everything going? |
| 21:55.36 | Scre3m | i have struggled with aggro control on the stupid dragon in ramparts |
| 21:55.47 | Antiarc|Work | The dragon's threat seems rather odd. |
| 21:55.50 | Scre3m | i tried spamming fade even, knowing full well that that does not help |
| 21:55.56 | Sairen | anyone can tell me where's the gryphon in karazhan? |
| 21:55.57 | Antiarc|Work | I suspect that he builds threat from heals before he lands. |
| 21:56.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Scre3m: bah, the dragon is easy, all your tank needs to do is not be dumb |
| 21:56.06 | Scre3m | i do too |
| 21:56.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: he does, absolutely |
| 21:56.13 | Scre3m | lots of dumb tank :) |
| 21:56.20 | Arrowmaster | the few times ive done ramparts ive never seen anybody pull aggro on that dragon |
| 21:56.27 | NightHawkTheSane | every single time he lands, he goes -straight- for the healer. any tank can expect that and pick it up trivially |
| 21:56.29 | kenlyric | me either. |
| 21:56.29 | Scre3m | if taunt is resists, i normally die |
| 21:56.29 | Antiarc|Work | So nobody but the healer is building threat before he lands, then he beelines for the healer who is top of his list when he does land, and not even fade reduces enough aggro to pull him off. |
| 21:56.50 | Barbanus | Heh... |
| 21:56.50 | kenlyric | we wiped on him plenty of times just because there wasn't enough healing/stamina/movement, but never seen him beat up on anybody but the tank. |
| 21:56.54 | Barbanus | you want a good strategy? |
| 21:56.57 | Barbanus | KILL THE DRAGON FIRST! |
| 21:56.57 | Scre3m | does it help if someone in groups nukes him while in the air? |
| 21:57.01 | Barbanus | fixed! |
| 21:57.10 | Antiarc|Work | If possible, that might prevent him from hitting the healer, yeah |
| 21:57.13 | Barbanus | ever wonder why its a chest? |
| 21:57.17 | Tain | I propose a new strategy. Let the Wookie win. |
| 21:57.21 | Barbanus | cause you can shoot the dragon and kill him |
| 21:57.30 | Barbanus | and then kill the other guy |
| 21:57.32 | Barbanus | easymode |
| 21:57.38 | kenlyric | you can probably fear the other guy too. |
| 21:57.49 | Antiarc|Work | What if it's a 5-paladin group? :( |
| 21:57.50 | Arrowmaster | i dont think any instnace boss is fearable |
| 21:58.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Barbanus: actually... its a chest because you used to be able to kill the guy, wipe/zone/reset whatever, and the event would reset, and you could kill the guy again |
| 21:58.07 | Barbanus | Antiarc|Work, l2spec holy shock |
| 21:58.24 | Antiarc|Work | Longest. Fight. Ever. |
| 21:58.33 | Antiarc|Work | "Ok guys, only 10 more minutes on my HS cooldown." |
| 21:58.37 | Barbanus | lol, didnt say it wouldnt ne long :P |
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| 21:58.42 | Antiarc|Work | I know it's not that long, but whatever :P |
| 21:58.50 | NightHawkTheSane | but they'd never go oom. :P |
| 21:59.02 | Barbanus | holy shock is like a 15 sec cooldown for ~700 dmg |
| 21:59.07 | Barbanus | so yea .. it will be awhile |
| 21:59.21 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work: hows your item dps comparison addon coming? :) |
| 21:59.21 | deltron | holy shock? |
| 21:59.40 | deltron | is that how I got hit for ~1000 by a pally? |
| 21:59.44 | Barbanus | deltron, paladin spell, talent, 31 holy |
| 21:59.52 | Antiarc|Work | I got it close-ish and then stopped working on it for other projects. >_> |
| 21:59.55 | Barbanus | uhhh possibly |
| 21:59.59 | Antiarc|Work | Which is the status of about 19 of my projects. |
| 22:00.03 | deltron | I want holy resist gear :P |
| 22:00.12 | Antiarc|Work | Right now I'm actually spending my free time on money-making project, so I haven't had a lot of WoW addon time |
| 22:00.13 | kenlyric | I'm really liking that new priest heal I got at 68... can't think of the name right now. The one that jumps from person to person. |
| 22:00.13 | Arrowmaster | anybody figure out what this "hit avoidance rating" that one BoE neck has on it is? |
| 22:00.20 | NightHawkTheSane | man, paying attention here is making me miss all the good parts in serenity. |
| 22:00.20 | Antiarc|Work | Prayer of Mending |
| 22:00.22 | kenlyric | requires smart group members, but very nice. |
| 22:00.22 | Barbanus | JoCom, Holy Shock, SoC, all can crit for 1k easy |
| 22:00.30 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: I suspect it's just -hit to your opponent |
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| 22:01.30 | Gagorian | More like +dodge |
| 22:01.57 | Antiarc|Work | Dodge isn't the same as -hit |
| 22:02.21 | Gagorian | Really? :D |
| 22:02.23 | Antiarc|Work | -hit increases your opponent's chance to miss, as opposed to increasing your chance to dodge. |
| 22:02.28 | NightHawkTheSane | dodge also has it's own rating :P |
| 22:02.45 | Antiarc|Work | Evasion rank 2, for example, gives -25% hit to ranged attackers attacking the rogue. |
| 22:02.54 | Antiarc|Work | That's in addition to the +50% dodge bonus |
| 22:03.12 | Barbanus | yea, cause you cant dodge a bullet |
| 22:03.12 | CIA-17 | 03gits * r26889 10Acolyte/ (14 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:03.12 | CIA-17 | Acolyte: |
| 22:03.12 | CIA-17 | - FIX: NightFall should work now, Mount spells are confirmed with database now |
| 22:03.12 | CIA-17 | - CHANGE: Acolyte uses now AceDB, AceLocale and BabbleSpell |
| 22:03.46 | kenlyric | -hit also directly counters those abilities which make you unable to dodge an ability (seem to think rogues have a couple of those) |
| 22:03.55 | kenlyric | so have more dodge wouldn't do any good, but having -hit would. |
| 22:03.59 | Antiarc|Work | Just finishers, with a 41-point talent |
| 22:04.02 | Antiarc|Work | Overpower is undodgable. |
| 22:04.11 | kenlyric | though generally they can't miss if they can't be dodged, so maybe not. |
| 22:04.25 | Antiarc|Work | Also, Envenom can be dodged even with Surprise Attacks, which irritates the hell out of me. |
| 22:04.26 | Barbanus | overpower can miss |
| 22:04.29 | NightHawkTheSane | er.... if it can't miss, it can still dodge |
| 22:04.30 | Antiarc|Work | But it can't be dodged. |
| 22:04.36 | Scre3m | fade-related question: how does taunt work especially in relation to fade? |
| 22:04.48 | Scre3m | isn't taunt also a temp effect? |
| 22:04.49 | Amadeo | My Overpowers don't crit enough..you'd think 50% would be all the time |
| 22:04.53 | Antiarc|Work | No, taunt is permanent |
| 22:04.54 | Amadeo | but it feels like 20% |
| 22:05.02 | Work|Kenlyric | 50% is half the time. |
| 22:05.05 | Antiarc|Work | Taunt gives you threat equal to the threat of the person on top of the threat list and shifts aggro to you. |
| 22:05.22 | Work|Kenlyric | which warrior ability is six seconds? |
| 22:05.24 | Antiarc|Work | Everyone else must then out-threat you by x% (where is is based on the range modifier) to pull aggro. |
| 22:05.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: it also forces the mob to attack you for 3s, regardless of anything else (aside from subsequent taunts) |
| 22:05.26 | Scre3m | so fade + taunt would be very effective? |
| 22:05.36 | Antiarc|Work | No |
| 22:05.38 | Arrowmaster | but you still have to make up that 10% threat window before the debuff wears off or the mob turns back to the old person |
| 22:05.44 | Antiarc|Work | Better to taunt without fade then to taunt with fade |
| 22:05.50 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: That was changed waaaaay back when |
| 22:05.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: not really. Tautn actually transfers permanent agro now |
| 22:06.04 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 22:06.04 | Scre3m | explain please, i'm rather stupid |
| 22:06.07 | Antiarc|Work | Well |
| 22:06.17 | Barbanus | that was changed for the 4h fight, IIRC |
| 22:06.26 | Barbanus | the taunt change |
| 22:06.48 | Antiarc|Work | If the warrior has 2000 threat and the priest has 3500, and the priest fades for -1000 aggro (now 2500), the warrior taunts (gets 2500 threat and aggro), then once the fade wears off, the priest pops back up to 3500 threat and has aggro again. |
| 22:07.05 | Antiarc|Work | If the warrior has 2000, priest has 3500, warrior taunts, warrior now has 3500 + aggro. |
| 22:07.23 | FryGuy | doesn't the taunt make it go to the person with aggro's threat, not the highest threat? |
| 22:07.25 | Scre3m | OOHHHHH |
| 22:07.31 | Scre3m | *lightbulb |
| 22:07.40 | Antiarc|Work | FryGuy: The person with aggro is the person with the highest threat. :P |
| 22:07.44 | FryGuy | no |
| 22:07.47 | Antiarc|Work | Well, yes. |
| 22:07.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: not necessarily |
| 22:07.52 | Antiarc|Work | Discounting the buffers. |
| 22:07.58 | Antiarc|Work | So yeah, nevermind :P |
| 22:07.59 | NightHawkTheSane | but, you can't discount those :P |
| 22:08.01 | Arrowmaster | those buffs suck btw |
| 22:08.02 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, true. |
| 22:08.09 | Arrowmaster | buffers* |
| 22:08.09 | ckknight | wowwiki's down :-( |
| 22:08.36 | Arrowmaster | i used to hate razorgore because i lost my 20% threat buffer |
| 22:08.43 | Kemayo | That was fast - I was just looking at it 30 seconds ago. |
| 22:08.45 | Scre3m | buffers? |
| 22:08.50 | Barbanus | ckknight, not totally |
| 22:08.54 | Barbanus | its .. having issue |
| 22:09.04 | Barbanus | s/issue/issues/ |
| 22:09.25 | Arrowmaster | Scre3m: when in melee range you have to have 110% threat of the person with aggro to pull aggro yourself |
| 22:09.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Scre3m: as noted earlier i believe, you need to generate 110% threat to pull agro in melee range, and 130% outside of melee range |
| 22:09.51 | Kemayo | So, anyone know the name of the MessageFrame that normal quest notifications go to? |
| 22:09.54 | Scre3m | ok |
| 22:10.02 | Arrowmaster | when the tank gets CC'd though, ranged gets shit on because that 130% turns into 100% |
| 22:10.24 | NightHawkTheSane | that said, I <3 intervene. |
| 22:11.21 | Barbanus | Offtopic, these guys are my heroes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx2ytr2Oyv4 |
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| 22:12.53 | Antiarc|Work | So uh |
| 22:13.03 | Antiarc|Work | I'm running load testing on one of our beta apps |
| 22:13.15 | Antiarc|Work | And just noticed that I have the load average on the machine that it is running on a bit over 12. |
| 22:13.52 | Barbanus | whats causing it to be 12? |
| 22:13.52 | Antiarc|Work | Exponentially growing concurrent connections have a nasty way of bringing a box to its knees. |
| 22:14.06 | Barbanus | bittorrent? |
| 22:14.07 | Barbanus | lol |
| 22:14.13 | Antiarc|Work | No, custom benchmarking script. |
| 22:14.17 | Barbanus | heh |
| 22:14.35 | Antiarc|Work | Which is done in ruby, and is an absolutely awesome language for it. |
| 22:14.46 | Barbanus | <3 ruby |
| 22:14.52 | kergoth | <3 google services for your domain |
| 22:14.54 | Antiarc|Work | It generates data and pipes it to gnuplot, which spits out purty graphs for me. |
| 22:15.18 | Tain | YOu bet kergoth. I have gmail for my domain up and running and it is *awesome* |
| 22:15.36 | Antiarc|Work | Given an array of values: |
| 22:15.38 | Antiarc|Work | stddev = Math.sqrt(p.inject(0) {|n,t| n + ((t - (p.inject(0) {|n,v| n+v} / p.length)) ** 2)} / (p.length-1)) if p.length > 1 |
| 22:15.43 | Antiarc|Work | That's the standard deviation. :D |
| 22:15.55 | Tain | So if anyone does want an email address @crushingdreams.com let me know. :) |
| 22:16.26 | Scre3m | i can provide wowcircus.com email addresses :) |
| 22:16.37 | Scre3m | (guild name is Circus on Thrall) |
| 22:17.02 | Barbanus | what when, how do I get one of these setup?!? |
| 22:17.11 | Tain | wowcircus sounds like ... well every day around here. |
| 22:17.17 | Kemayo | Ah, sneaky, they use UIErrorsFrame for everything. |
| 22:17.19 | Scre3m | i know hehe, great guild name |
| 22:17.52 | Scre3m | ranks are: GM=Ring Master, Officers=Clowns, Veterans=Jugglers |
| 22:17.53 | Scre3m | etc |
| 22:18.07 | Stephmw | kergoth: yeah, google is nice |
| 22:18.20 | Stephmw | kergoth: currently looking at amazon's EC2 for hosting though |
| 22:18.30 | Barbanus | kergoth, do you have a link to where to get started setting one up? :) |
| 22:18.37 | Tain | I suggested we name the low ranks, "Spittle, Slave, Boot-lick" but they wouldn't go for it in my guild. |
| 22:19.04 | Scre3m | haha |
| 22:19.27 | sbu | hmm - and assclown? |
| 22:19.29 | Scre3m | http://www.google.com/a/ |
| 22:19.51 | Scre3m | we have a rank called Paraiba, which is basically Portugese for "Village Idiot" |
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| 22:20.18 | Antiarc|Work | I'm GM of the <Southsea Buccaneers>. We have "Poop Deck Swab" as our bottom rank. |
| 22:20.19 | Scre3m | players are demoted when they do something stupid, like click a hoodoo pile in ZG |
| 22:20.34 | Scre3m | nice Antiarc, lol |
| 22:20.51 | BankZ | Is oCB better than CDRipoff? |
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| 22:22.15 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r26890 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Add notifications for party member leaderboard updates. |
| 22:22.22 | a-stray-cat | anyone have any recommendations for mass mailing mod? |
| 22:22.34 | a-stray-cat | (sending lots of stuff through the mail at once) |
| 22:22.35 | Mok | i like gMail |
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| 22:22.48 | a-stray-cat | ill try it out, thanks |
| 22:22.58 | kergoth | BankZ: cbripoff is ocb, just the version that used to be in wowace svn. i dont think haste has done much with ocb in his svn yet |
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| 22:23.55 | kergoth | Barbanus: http://www.google.com/a/interest |
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| 22:24.41 | Kemayo | a-stray-cat: I still like Bulkmail more than gMail/Postal. |
| 22:25.15 | Barbanus | kergoth, thank you. |
| 22:25.32 | a-stray-cat | Kemayo: i'll try that one too |
| 22:25.43 | Scre3m | CT_MailMod |
| 22:25.45 | Tain | Bulkmail still rely on Ace1/AceGui? |
| 22:25.50 | BankZ | kergoth: svn? which should I get? |
| 22:25.52 | Kemayo | Tain: Sadly, yes. |
| 22:26.08 | CIA-17 | 03gits * r26891 10Acolyte/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:26.08 | CIA-17 | Acolyte: |
| 22:26.08 | CIA-17 | - FIX: some things which were messed up with last revision |
| 22:27.00 | stavmar | [Ammo]: ping |
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| 22:27.42 | kergoth | BankZ: cbripoff is what i use |
| 22:28.29 | _neuron_ | ~seen nevcairiel |
| 22:28.49 | purl | nevcairiel is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: 'with rested you can get 3.9k :)'. |
| 22:29.00 | _neuron_ | nevcairiel, ping |
| 22:29.47 | anenigma | Who works on ItemBonusLib? |
| 22:30.30 | anenigma | Cause it needs some updating. "Equip: Increases your critical strike rating by XX." can also be displayed as "Equip: Improves critical strike rating by XX." |
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| 22:31.15 | ckknight | anyone worked with ScrollFrames before? |
| 22:32.03 | _neuron_ | anenigma, no whatever uses it needs fixing to use the new (and far more accurate) blizzard api to do the exact same thing |
| 22:32.07 | _neuron_ | ckknight, they are the root of all evil |
| 22:32.14 | ckknight | nvm, figured it out. |
| 22:32.17 | _neuron_ | :p |
| 22:32.20 | ckknight | actually, I'm quite enjoying them. |
| 22:32.32 | ckknight | Tablet's scroll mechanism is being ported to it. |
| 22:32.38 | _neuron_ | ahh |
| 22:33.04 | _neuron_ | another thing I'd love in tablet btw, a way to have multiple buttons on a single line |
| 22:33.13 | anenigma | _neuron_: Actually yeah, forgot about those as well. I think I may try to fix it when I get home from work (or possibly at work, although I don't have WoW at work) |
| 22:33.17 | ckknight | complex. |
| 22:33.19 | _neuron_ | (for example like the bottom of your questlog, share/abandon/exit) |
| 22:33.23 | _neuron_ | yeah, but it'd be l33t :P |
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| 22:34.35 | kergoth | anyone else here using google services for your domain? |
| 22:34.43 | Tain | Yeah I am |
| 22:35.01 | kergoth | are you able to go to, say, google groups using your email/login from the domain email? |
| 22:35.11 | kergoth | or do you have to use your normal gmail account for that? |
| 22:35.58 | Tain | ah haven't tried, actually. I'm so used to using my gmail account for those. |
| 22:36.04 | Stephmw | I'm using the services too, but I haven't really used much other than emailing |
| 22:36.30 | kergoth | i was wanting to use google groups as a replacement for a forum for my guild, possibly, but if people cant use their guild addresses for the groups, thats a problem |
| 22:36.39 | Tain | yeah |
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| 22:43.44 | kergoth | weird, just created a kergoth@myguildsite.com google account so i can sign into the rest of google services with that name |
| 22:43.47 | kergoth | but its two seperate auth systems |
| 22:45.15 | Tain | Probably, kergoth. Since Google Services lets you have a calendar, I bet it is only tied to your domain. |
| 22:45.22 | vhaarr | ~seen sano |
| 22:45.40 | purl | sano <n=sano@mol92-4-82-227-96-95.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 49d 12h 53m 53s ago, saying: '\_o< ~ coin !'. |
| 22:46.05 | kergoth | Tain: |
| 22:46.08 | Tem | ~seen me |
| 22:46.11 | purl | me <n=kvirc@dil77.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 7d 9h 49m 27s ago, saying: 'thanks for help and bye'. |
| 22:46.11 | kergoth | Oops. A calendar already exists for kergoth@sinisterofarathor.com |
| 22:46.11 | kergoth | Each calendar needs its own email address so friends can send you invitations. |
| 22:46.15 | kergoth | it gives me a chocie |
| 22:46.19 | kergoth | between the guild calendar and the normal one |
| 22:46.23 | kergoth | thats better than i expected |
| 22:46.24 | Tem | well that's hardly what I wanted, purl |
| 22:46.27 | Tain | Ah that is cool |
| 22:47.13 | Tem | kergoth, what calendar? |
| 22:47.18 | PogoTribal | Is there a Guild Event Manager 2.0? |
| 22:47.23 | kergoth | google calendar |
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| 22:48.43 | kergoth | Tem: google services for your domain has calendar stuff and mail stuff, but i had to go create a normal google account for the email addy at the services domain to be able to go to things like google groups with that account.. so i was concerned about hte fact that there'd be both the services calendar and the normal google calendar for that address |
| 22:48.49 | kergoth | but it was smart enough to realize it and prompt |
| 22:48.54 | kergoth | so itll do |
| 22:49.39 | Tem | ah, yeah I read about that a while back when playing around with google stuff |
| 22:49.51 | kergoth | its annoying that they arent fully integrated |
| 22:49.56 | kergoth | but at least it isnt as bad as i expected |
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| 22:50.09 | kergoth | can just hand guildies their email addy, and they go register with google with it to get access to the google groups |
| 22:52.05 | durcyn | PogoTribal: yeah, but it's bloatware-esque. |
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| 22:56.02 | Groll | cartographer mining bug http://ace.pastey.net/5832 |
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| 22:57.09 | Groll | and cartographer notes [2007/02/01 23:52:12-278-x1]: Cartographer_Notes-2.0\Notes.lua:581: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'id' (a string value) --- |
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| 23:03.20 | Tain | hahah "Scientest say 8% of sheep are gay. The rest of them are into beastiality." |
| 23:04.42 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r26892 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua: |
| 23:04.43 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Karazhan: |
| 23:04.43 | CIA-17 | -Attumen, register the sync >.< |
| 23:04.52 | ckknight | lol, Tain |
| 23:05.27 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07PT3 * r26893 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.lua MendeleevCats.lua): Mendeleev: Sano, please be more careful with indenting, and don't revert changes just because you don't understand them. And freaking get on IRC when you make commits to someone elses code. |
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| 23:12.01 | NeoTron | so anyone know if bigwigs is getting 5-man instance stuff? |
| 23:12.14 | NeoTron | there definitely are bosses where it would be useful (especailly, I imagine, on heroic mode) |
| 23:12.29 | Tekkub | did we ever get a viable replacement for Sprocket? |
| 23:12.33 | durcyn | depends on your definition of useful, then |
| 23:12.34 | vhaarr | Tekkub: no :/ |
| 23:12.41 | Tekkub | bum |
| 23:12.41 | vhaarr | NeoTron: Give us logs. |
| 23:12.45 | kergoth | NeoTron: someone mentioned doing it and calling it littlewigs |
| 23:12.47 | kergoth | i dont recall who |
| 23:12.50 | kergoth | check the irc logs |
| 23:12.51 | nymbia | heroic bosses are easier than heroic trash. by far. |
| 23:12.56 | vhaarr | NeoTron: I want to make LittleWigs. |
| 23:13.19 | durcyn | i could see it being useful for murmur, maybe. maybe. |
| 23:13.41 | vhaarr | durcyn: Have you done heroic mode? |
| 23:13.55 | vhaarr | durcyn: The abilities can be different, and they're alot worse. |
| 23:14.25 | nymbia | but for the most part |
| 23:14.33 | nymbia | there's really only one thing you need to watch |
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| 23:15.32 | nymbia | and it may be more difficult in heroic, but it's generally not different. just harder, faster, more frequent... |
| 23:16.54 | NeoTron | kergoth: that's pretty funny |
| 23:17.21 | NeoTron | durcyn: there's more. like end of steam.. err whatever it's called, having a timer/warning for the "explode tank" ability |
| 23:17.55 | NeoTron | but overall the boss design for 5-mans is now pretty much on the same level as raids |
| 23:17.59 | nymbia | the tank drain? |
| 23:17.59 | NeoTron | they just are easier to kill |
| 23:18.15 | NeoTron | whatever it is, it does a lot of dps if you don't dps the tanks down |
| 23:19.08 | NeoTron | I really did want a warning on murmur though. our tank is using a unit frame without target castbar... |
| 23:19.14 | NeoTron | got hit like 50% of the time |
| 23:19.40 | nymbia | i guess it would help to idiot-proof things with timers for that type of thing. but that's literally the only gimmick in that fight, and all the DPS need to be watching for it all the time... whereas for raid stuff there's too much going on to track timed abilities that easily. |
| 23:19.50 | kebinusan | keep getting this error with cart: [2007/02/01 18:14:16-811-x376]: Cartographer-r26830\Cartographer_Notes\Notes.lua:581: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'id' (a string value) |
| 23:19.53 | Tekkub | my jaw is sore |
| 23:19.57 | Tekkub | damn cornnuts |
| 23:20.04 | NeoTron | nymbia: I know it's not as hard because fewer people = easier |
| 23:20.10 | NeoTron | but there are still valid reasons for it |
| 23:20.14 | nymbia | we always let murmur hit our tanks with boom, so we dont get resonanced.. /shrug |
| 23:20.27 | NeoTron | we run with just one healer typically |
| 23:20.33 | nymbia | so do we ;) |
| 23:20.34 | NeoTron | that's so far not level 70. |
| 23:20.41 | NeoTron | was 67 when we did it I think |
| 23:21.09 | NeoTron | we wiped one time because we didn't know the fight |
| 23:21.10 | nymbia | it's all about timing on sonic boom. either the tank times it right or the healer times it right. |
| 23:21.13 | NeoTron | it wasn't that hard |
| 23:21.30 | NeoTron | that's another thing - the healer won't have the target cast bar |
| 23:21.33 | kergoth | hmm, google services for your domain has mailing lists.. |
| 23:21.42 | kergoth | but nowhere near as easy to work with as google groups |
| 23:21.44 | kergoth | meh |
| 23:21.55 | NeoTron | kergoth: I've been tempted to try that out but I'm afraid they will make it a pay service |
| 23:22.10 | Feldia | tekkub: are you there? |
| 23:22.17 | kergoth | i dont mind, if they do, its not that hard to set up a webmail on a linux box |
| 23:22.24 | Tekkub | eh? |
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| 23:22.32 | Feldia | what happened to mountme? |
| 23:22.37 | Feldia | download links disappeared |
| 23:22.41 | Tekkub | it's in transition |
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| 23:23.09 | Tekkub | http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/ |
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| 23:23.38 | Feldia | yea, I saw that |
| 23:23.44 | vid` | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full6834.jpg |
| 23:23.47 | vid` | anyone know what map mod that is? |
| 23:23.52 | vid` | that shows you loc inside instances/ |
| 23:23.54 | Feldia | but there's no mountme! |
| 23:24.01 | Tekkub | it's not done |
| 23:24.06 | Feldia | ahh I see |
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| 23:24.38 | OvrLrd-Q | hurm, yea getting that cart error now too :( |
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| 23:24.47 | kergoth | vid`: am i missing something, i dont see a map mod |
| 23:24.54 | NeoTron | I'm using GoGoMount |
| 23:24.55 | Feldia | any eta on it? |
| 23:24.57 | OvrLrd-Q | still getting error in AceComm as well :( |
| 23:25.00 | Tekkub | no |
| 23:25.04 | NeoTron | and I feel the need to have a second key binding for "ground mount only" |
| 23:25.06 | vid` | topr ight corner |
| 23:25.07 | vid` | minimap |
| 23:25.14 | NeoTron | because I don't always want my flying mount (yet) |
| 23:25.15 | Feldia | bleh |
| 23:25.20 | Daemona | hmmm any1 know a bag mod that DOESNT do sorting but supports searching like old bagnon? |
| 23:25.40 | nymbia | vid`: loc? i dont see any loc |
| 23:25.58 | vid` | it shows his position |
| 23:25.59 | vid` | with a cursor |
| 23:26.01 | NeoTron | it's just a minimap |
| 23:26.04 | vid` | not the actual x,y |
| 23:26.10 | NeoTron | the normal minimap without border |
| 23:26.15 | vid` | oh wait n/m i a retard |
| 23:26.18 | vid` | lol |
| 23:26.37 | NeoTron | speaking of minimaps does anyone know of an addon that automatically collects and groups minimap icons? |
| 23:26.38 | vid` | regular map does that too, i dunno why but for some reason i thought it was a full size map |
| 23:26.49 | NeoTron | I have one where i can move them freely but it's kind of messy and not always working correctly |
| 23:27.01 | vid` | that minimap still looks bigger than a standard map though |
| 23:27.15 | kergoth | vid`: so its scaled up |
| 23:27.18 | vid` | as in zoomed out further |
| 23:27.22 | kergoth | theres countless minimap addons that can scale the map |
| 23:27.35 | kergoth | it isnt zoomed out any further than any other map can, its just zoomed out to max and scaled up |
| 23:27.39 | kergoth | afaict |
| 23:27.50 | kergoth | look at the size of the party member blips, its pretty clear |
| 23:27.57 | vid` | yea i guess |
| 23:28.08 | vid` | k n/m! |
| 23:28.09 | Thorgard | vid`, go stand in the corner. |
| 23:28.12 | vid` | im in retard mode today |
| 23:28.14 | vid` | :( |
| 23:28.21 | vid` | work and 3 hours of sleep = killing me |
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| 23:28.27 | vid` | at least i hit 70 last night |
| 23:28.30 | vid` | so i can sleep again |
| 23:29.15 | tjs | looking for an addon that will let me put art (tga) on the screen and move it around etc.. like discord_art but preferably ACE, and wow 2.0.x compat ;) |
| 23:29.43 | NeoTron | vid`: that's what I thought |
| 23:29.48 | break19 | vid`: you *dont* want me to comment. :P |
| 23:29.51 | NeoTron | vid`: but now I'm in gold farming/keying/rep grinding mode |
| 23:29.59 | vid` | lol yea i know |
| 23:30.05 | NeoTron | especially gold gold gold |
| 23:30.06 | vid` | need exalted now for heroic keys |
| 23:30.11 | vid` | 5k for epic flying mount |
| 23:30.14 | NeoTron | I predict 1 week until epic flyer, maybe 2 at most |
| 23:30.18 | vid` | karazhan key etc |
| 23:30.20 | NeoTron | you need just revered actually |
| 23:30.21 | nymbia | exalted for heroic keys? :o |
| 23:30.23 | vid` | or however it's spelled |
| 23:30.25 | vid` | oh revered? |
| 23:30.26 | vid` | nice |
| 23:30.30 | NeoTron | uit's pretty easy |
| 23:30.31 | vid` | thought it was exalted |
| 23:30.35 | vid` | yea revered is easy |
| 23:30.38 | vid` | im already revered with most |
| 23:30.41 | NeoTron | I got revered with CE after one round in steam-whatever |
| 23:30.57 | vid` | think cenario is my only one im honored with |
| 23:31.00 | vid` | cenarion* |
| 23:31.09 | vid` | i havent even done hellfire yet |
| 23:31.10 | nymbia | yeah i was gonna say.. if they're changing that i better get my hellfire citadel key fast, lol |
| 23:31.15 | vid` | ramparts |
| 23:31.32 | CIA-17 | 03archarodim * r26894 10Decursive/ (Dcr_DebuffsFrame.lua Todo.txt): |
| 23:31.33 | CIA-17 | Decursive: |
| 23:31.33 | CIA-17 | - Fix a issue with the class borders that was not set to the right color when units are too far or just after joining a raid (UniClass() may return nil in those cases) |
| 23:32.16 | nymbia | my honor hold rep is terrible, guess it doesnt help that i havent run shattered halls once |
| 23:32.52 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26895 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining: code checked , fixed and complete for renaming to veins.. TODO: fix up the code for rare spawn nodes and stacking |
| 23:32.56 | NeoTron | nymbia: well most rep do come from the level 70 instances |
| 23:33.02 | NeoTron | so I'm not surprised that without it it sucks |
| 23:33.10 | nymbia | NeoTron: yeah. |
| 23:33.23 | NeoTron | I think I'm about 1/2 through honored or something |
| 23:33.36 | NeoTron | but we're getting the kharazan keys now |
| 23:33.44 | NeoTron | so not running repeated instances |
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| 23:36.10 | Eej | shattered halls rep is ridiculously fast |
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| 23:36.16 | Eej | assuming you have the favors |
| 23:36.20 | bindi | every rep is :p |
| 23:36.22 | kagaro | evening |
| 23:36.23 | OvrLrd-Q | kagaro: that fix the icon problem? |
| 23:36.26 | kagaro | ye |
| 23:36.29 | vhaarr | Eej: yeah the banner buff rocks. |
| 23:36.36 | OvrLrd-Q | kagaro: coolies |
| 23:36.40 | vhaarr | Eej: 2 banners/run and you're revered in no time. |
| 23:36.40 | kagaro | s/ye/yes/ |
| 23:36.43 | Groll | kagaro no chatty u fix carto mining ;P |
| 23:36.56 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r26896 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: |
| 23:36.56 | CIA-17 | .Tablet-2.0 - now uses a proper scrollframe for scrolling. |
| 23:36.56 | CIA-17 | Seems to work, but please test. |
| 23:36.56 | CIA-17 | Only issue I can see currently is that there is no indicator whether you actually can scroll up/down or not. |
| 23:36.59 | Eej | i disagree |
| 23:37.01 | Eej | my scryer's rep is so slow |
| 23:37.04 | OvrLrd-Q | now just the notes problem :( |
| 23:37.04 | kagaro | im gona fix it up so rare spawn nodes override noraml ones |
| 23:37.07 | ckknight | ^--- please test |
| 23:37.10 | Eej | I'm only at 12205/21000 |
| 23:37.10 | Groll | oh nice |
| 23:37.16 | ckknight | I'm gonna go get some taco bell. |
| 23:37.27 | OvrLrd-Q | ckknight: new bug in Notes again :( |
| 23:37.31 | ckknight | also, if someone can think of a good indicator for scrolling, I'd like to hear it |
| 23:37.36 | Eej | vhaarr: I think you get like 2.5k rep per Shattered Halls run with the favours |
| 23:37.37 | kagaro | <-- is gona go fire up some kolbasi on the grill back shortly |
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| 23:37.43 | ckknight | OvrLrd-Q: taco bell takes precedence. |
| 23:37.43 | Eej | or around that much |
| 23:37.43 | NeoTron | Eej: all instance rep is. it's not so much a rep as it is learning the instance in normal mode first before you can do it on heroic |
| 23:37.54 | OvrLrd-Q | ckknight: well that's a given :) |
| 23:38.00 | vhaarr | NeoTron: SH is faster, since you have the PvP reward buff. |
| 23:38.09 | NeoTron | Eej: scryer is not an instance rep |
| 23:38.18 | NeoTron | those work in a different fashion |
| 23:38.25 | Eej | uhh |
| 23:38.30 | Eej | I was responding to |
| 23:38.31 | mexicaan | hi, how do i change the color of a editbox? |
| 23:38.33 | Eej | [6:36:47 pm] <bindi> every rep is :p |
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| 23:38.38 | Groll | well u do get scryer drops in instances i think.. not sure though :P |
| 23:38.46 | NeoTron | Groll: yes you can |
| 23:38.55 | Eej | so I don't know what you're going on about, NeoTron |
| 23:38.59 | NeoTron | Eej: then yes.. :) all reps connected with heroic keys is fast |
| 23:39.07 | NeoTron | other rep isn't necessarily so |
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| 23:39.45 | Eej | I wish Consortium rep was easy to get exalted |
| 23:39.48 | NeoTron | honored is overall not too hard to get |
| 23:40.01 | NeoTron | since there's always pretty decent repeatable turnins. |
| 23:40.08 | Eej | already at honoured |
| 23:40.13 | Eej | i want exalted for ez gems every month |
| 23:40.13 | NeoTron | right |
| 23:40.52 | Eej | only reps that i'm not at least honoured with are the ones that you can't.... and the violet eye which i'm only friendly with |
| 23:41.44 | NeoTron | violet eye has some nice rings |
| 23:41.49 | NeoTron | especially for the tanking druid |
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| 23:42.01 | Feldia | eej: has it been confirmed that you get better gems with higher reputation? |
| 23:42.04 | Eej | some terrible rings for physical dps classes |
| 23:42.32 | Daemona | ~seen nirek |
| 23:43.03 | purl | nirek <n=chatzill@ip70-180-104-164.no.no.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 36d 13h 15m 55s ago, saying: 'it gives me "Horde", "Horde"'. |
| 23:43.03 | Eej | Feldia: that's just what i've been told, i'm only honoured so i can't say for sure ;) |
| 23:43.03 | Feldia | yea I'm also honored, been thinking about grinding it higher |
| 23:48.22 | PogoTribal | Hmm |
| 23:48.22 | shieldb | Eej, you've had a hard time getting rep with consortium? |
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| 23:48.50 | shieldb | I got myself to 10k/12k through honored just via regular quests in netherstorm then got the other 2k last night in about 40 minutes of farming at the heap south of area 52 for the zaxxis insignias |
| 23:49.08 | NeoTron | for how long can you use those insignias? |
| 23:49.13 | shieldb | through exalted |
| 23:49.16 | NeoTron | ok |
| 23:49.22 | NeoTron | so it's like the nagrand rep |
| 23:49.22 | shieldb | 10 insignias = 250 rep |
| 23:49.28 | NeoTron | that has the ogre warbeads |
| 23:49.41 | shieldb | yeah only the ethereals at the heap are easy to farm - they don't have much for HP and none of them are casters |
| 23:50.52 | NeoTron | plus they look cooler ;-) |
| 23:51.25 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r26897 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Curator.lua: |
| 23:51.25 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Karazhan: |
| 23:51.25 | CIA-17 | -Curator, updated |
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| 23:52.21 | shieldb | well, the ogres in nagrand are kind of obnoxious to farm as well because there's several quests that involve killing them (or the whole ring of blood questline) so pvp may get in the way if you're on a pvp server |
| 23:52.37 | OvrLrd-Q | is there any way to figure out which addon is causing an error in AceComm? |
| 23:53.13 | lhunath | bugsack |
| 23:53.17 | lhunath | has stack traces |
| 23:53.22 | OvrLrd-Q | it's not giving anything |
| 23:53.43 | vhaarr | OvrLrd-Q: If the error happens in AceComm itself, then it is an AceComm bug. |
| 23:54.08 | lhunath | should give a stack trace nonetheless |
| 23:54.15 | shieldb | only issue with ethereals at the heap in netherstorm is if the quest "Its a Fel Reaver, with heart" is bugged out. Then the whole area gets randomly flooded with groups of 12 or so zaxxis ambushers from time to time (who also aren't lootable) |
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| 23:54.32 | ckknight | vhaarr: it's actually in ChatThrottleLib, at the bottom of AceComm, but I still can't figure it out. |
| 23:54.38 | ckknight | since I don't know what's calling it. |
| 23:55.04 | vhaarr | right |
| 23:55.09 | vhaarr | I haven't seen the error |
| 23:55.11 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r26898 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua: PeriodicTable-3.0: Speed up calls to invalid sets a bit. |
| 23:55.51 | lhunath | is PT2 depricated? |
| 23:55.56 | vhaarr | no |
| 23:56.07 | lhunath | why is that? |
| 23:56.50 | OvrLrd-Q | vhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/5834 |
| 23:56.52 | lhunath | does it have some kind of use PT3 does not yet have? |
| 23:57.02 | vhaarr | PT3 isn't ready yet |
| 23:57.41 | lhunath | Oh. |
| 23:58.21 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07PT3 * r26899 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua: Mendeleev: Massive cleanups, updated to use the new tooltip hooking. |
| 23:59.48 | lhunath | say, there's no way to get wowaceupdater to work on wine, is there? |
| 23:59.59 | Mobeater | newb question alert!! Can an addon not be aced, but still use like AceDB-2.0? |
