| 00:00.06 | vhaarr | Mobeater: yeah |
| 00:00.14 | vhaarr | lhunath: Well, if you can get .NET running in WINE, sure. |
| 00:00.25 | vhaarr | lhunath: Your time is better spent FIXING WAU to work in Mono, though. |
| 00:00.25 | lhunath | exactly my point, heh. |
| 00:00.40 | Tekkub | http://blog.wired.com/tableofmalcontents/2007/01/aqua_teen_hunge.html |
| 00:00.42 | vhaarr | I can't believe it doesn't work in mono. |
| 00:00.44 | NeoTron | shieldb: there are quests for the ethereals though and nagrand ogres have many different locations |
| 00:00.52 | NeoTron | but as a warlock they are a bit annoying because they charge me |
| 00:01.21 | lhunath | vhaarr: any clue as to why that is? |
| 00:01.31 | Mobeater | thanks vhaarr |
| 00:01.37 | vhaarr | lhunath: because the original author is a windows whorE? |
| 00:01.44 | vhaarr | lhunath: Seriously, I have no idea. |
| 00:02.07 | vhaarr | lhunath: There's a mono tool you can use to run on the exe that gives you any reason why it wouldn't work in Mono. |
| 00:02.09 | lhunath | I guess I could write a bash/java/whatever thing that would do the same for linux/unix |
| 00:02.14 | vhaarr | there are many |
| 00:02.22 | vhaarr | Just browse the forums. |
| 00:02.28 | lhunath | hmm, interesting. |
| 00:02.32 | shieldb | NeoTron, true, but every time I try the ogres there are lots of people around, and that doesn't seem to ever be the case with the ethereals in netherstorm |
| 00:02.41 | shieldb | Then again, it may just be my server :) |
| 00:03.01 | lhunath | I wasn't aware linux was such a popular OS amoungst ace fans. |
| 00:03.13 | vhaarr | There are lots of people here running WoW on linux. |
| 00:03.23 | shieldb | I play a rogue so the ogre shaman are much more of a pain then the warrior types or the ethereals |
| 00:03.25 | vhaarr | Probably more so than other WoW communities. |
| 00:03.31 | Mobeater | I used to run wow on my gentoo box, ran well too |
| 00:04.34 | Mobeater | every since they made wow playable on MacOS X, which is built on a unix shell, it has only gotten easier to play wow on Linux :) |
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| 00:05.35 | lhunath | does the wow in wine using opengl benefit from the opengl improvements they made for mac? |
| 00:05.44 | lhunath | s/the // |
| 00:05.57 | vhaarr | ckknight: The tablet scrolling looks nice, but yeah, it needs some indicator. |
| 00:06.19 | ckknight | vhaarr: gonna add a slider to the right. |
| 00:06.28 | vhaarr | ckknight: cool |
| 00:06.39 | NeoTron | shieldb: probably. |
| 00:06.57 | vhaarr | ckknight: Would it maybe be possible to limit scrolling to a category with the new scroller? Like you could say "anchor this category at the top, but scroll this one". |
| 00:07.09 | ckknight | no |
| 00:07.10 | NeoTron | Mobeater: err. WoW was always playable on MacOS X |
| 00:07.13 | vhaarr | alright |
| 00:07.13 | ckknight | way too complex |
| 00:07.15 | ckknight | and out of scope |
| 00:07.22 | lhunath | s/(?:t+)h(?=e)/\1/ |
| 00:07.25 | NeoTron | in fact, WoW used to be playable natively under Linux |
| 00:07.35 | ckknight | they just didn't want to support it |
| 00:07.39 | NeoTron | right |
| 00:08.06 | NeoTron | and with a bit of knowledge of Linux gaming you can probably guess who did the porting |
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| 00:08.26 | CIA-17 | 03peragor * r26900 10GridStatusHealer/GridStatusHealer.lua: |
| 00:08.26 | CIA-17 | GridStatusHealer |
| 00:08.26 | CIA-17 | - Fixed a mistake, had unitid, should have had UnitName(unitid) |
| 00:08.26 | CIA-17 | - Added events to trigger priority updates when a unit has an incoming heal |
| 00:09.47 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r26901 10Necronomicon2/Modules/Summon.lua: Necronomicon2: last tweakie for tonight |
| 00:10.19 | NeoTron | so I am using Trinket Menu and it rocks |
| 00:10.29 | NeoTron | only problem is.. it doesn't have any support for "mount trinkets" :( |
| 00:11.04 | NeoTron | of course.. I could probably add it as an option to automatically use them if available |
| 00:11.09 | NeoTron | there are after all only two |
| 00:11.34 | shieldb | NeoTron, carrot on a stick and riding crop? |
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| 00:11.48 | NeoTron | yep |
| 00:11.52 | Sutorix | And the riding glove enchant... |
| 00:11.56 | NeoTron | and they are mutually exclusive I think |
| 00:12.01 | NeoTron | Sutorix: ah yes but that's not a trinket |
| 00:12.12 | shieldb | there's mithril spurs, too |
| 00:12.15 | NeoTron | trinket menu only deals with trinkets |
| 00:12.21 | shieldb | but yeah, not a trinket |
| 00:12.21 | Sutorix | True, but you'd want it equipped anyway :-) |
| 00:12.28 | NeoTron | I use itemrack for that |
| 00:12.31 | NeoTron | I already have it configured |
| 00:12.36 | Sutorix | Doesn't it move trinkets too? |
| 00:12.40 | NeoTron | problem is, trinket menu actually unequips it |
| 00:13.16 | NeoTron | I mount up, itemrack puts on gloves/boots/trinket and trinket meny removes trinket |
| 00:13.40 | NeoTron | only way to avoid it is to disabld switching entirely on one slot (not desirable) or make carrot the highest priority trinket which also isn't desirable |
| 00:16.01 | CIA-17 | 03mok * r26902 10GemList/GemList.lua: |
| 00:16.01 | CIA-17 | GemList: |
| 00:16.01 | CIA-17 | - changed color recognition to tooltip instead of icon (hate hardcoded things) |
| 00:16.02 | CIA-17 | - meta gems should no longer appear in queries for non-meta gems |
| 00:16.02 | CIA-17 | - itemlinks are now recognized |
| 00:16.02 | CIA-17 | - multiline descriptions will be ignored except of the first line |
| 00:16.04 | CIA-17 | - you can search for reagents now |
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| 00:17.23 | chutwig | the music in shadow labyrinth makes me feel like i'm in the cloister in diablo 2 |
| 00:17.28 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 00:17.31 | NeoTron | never have the music on |
| 00:17.35 | NeoTron | perhaps I should sometimes |
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| 00:19.16 | chutwig | i turned it on when BC came out |
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| 00:20.36 | kergoth | NeoTron, configure trinketmenu properly |
| 00:20.45 | kergoth | NeoTron, specifically, you want to check the 'pause' option on the carrot on a stick |
| 00:20.51 | kergoth | when itemrack eqiups it, itll pasue the autoqueue |
| 00:20.57 | kergoth | and unpause it when itemrack unequips it |
| 00:21.38 | Groll | get the riding crop instead :) |
| 00:21.45 | Groll | and get rid of the old crap :D |
| 00:23.29 | ckknight | kergoth: I finally fixed the tablets for the instance loot thing. |
| 00:23.54 | kergoth | ah cool :) |
| 00:24.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Can't you use both carrot and crop? :P |
| 00:24.16 | Feldia | they don't stack |
| 00:24.21 | NightHawkTheSane | bah, shame. |
| 00:24.25 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r26903 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: |
| 00:24.25 | CIA-17 | .Tablet-2.0 - added a slider to scrollable tablets. |
| 00:24.25 | CIA-17 | fixed issue with 2-columned spacing |
| 00:24.27 | ckknight | kergoth: and it looks a lot nicer now |
| 00:24.28 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:24.33 | ckknight | vhaarr: try that |
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| 00:25.19 | NeoTron | kergoth: hmm ok cool, didn't know I could do that. thanks |
| 00:25.31 | kergoth | np |
| 00:25.47 | NeoTron | Groll: me and a LW plan to farm mats for 5 riding crops, and take one each selling the other 3 |
| 00:25.58 | NeoTron | it'll skill her up and we should be able to get them for free, or even a profit |
| 00:26.11 | NeoTron | crop does stack with enchant/spurs though, right? |
| 00:26.19 | Feldia | no it doesnt |
| 00:26.23 | Feldia | doesn't stack with anything |
| 00:26.25 | NeoTron | err |
| 00:26.27 | NeoTron | then it's useless |
| 00:26.28 | NightHawkTheSane | er.... |
| 00:26.31 | NightHawkTheSane | then what's the point? |
| 00:26.39 | vhaarr | ckknight: rockin', but it overlaps the content by a few pixels - nothing to worry about, though, I think. |
| 00:26.43 | Groll | NightHawkTheSane well u can but they dont stack.. with any of the other stuff |
| 00:26.44 | Feldia | 1 bag slot instead of 3? |
| 00:26.51 | Groll | so instead of having 3 things u only need one |
| 00:26.58 | NeoTron | err |
| 00:27.02 | NeoTron | that makes it a lot less useful |
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| 00:27.13 | NeoTron | so I go from 219 to 220% speed |
| 00:27.14 | NightHawkTheSane | ill take 2 more bag slots for a little extra speed, personally |
| 00:27.15 | Groll | nope.. it's 1% more than the others :P |
| 00:27.25 | NightHawkTheSane | is it? |
| 00:27.43 | Groll | yep spurs etc =9% ridingcrop =10 |
| 00:27.48 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26904 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.toc: ClosetGnome_Mount: Add SEEA and SEM to OptDeps. |
| 00:27.52 | Groll | and 2 less slots |
| 00:28.01 | Barbanus | Fuck that ... |
| 00:28.05 | NightHawkTheSane | i see... |
| 00:28.06 | Barbanus | Crusader aura IMO |
| 00:28.12 | Barbanus | screw enchants / trinkets :P |
| 00:28.17 | Groll | hehe that it does stack with :D |
| 00:28.24 | Groll | i think |
| 00:28.27 | Barbanus | 20% speed, no screwing around with items |
| 00:28.29 | Barbanus | it doesnt stack |
| 00:28.30 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle * r26905 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: Cartographer_Quests: another (I hope the last) note database fix. |
| 00:28.32 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26906 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher.toc: ClosetGnome_Switcher: Add SEEA OptDep. |
| 00:29.00 | NightHawkTheSane | I guess that gives me a real reason to actually get a crop made then |
| 00:29.13 | NightHawkTheSane | guess i should start farming my primal might mats. |
| 00:29.46 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26907 10oRA2/oRA2.toc: oRA2: Add SEEA OptDep. |
| 00:29.56 | nymbia | vhaarr: did you notice how shittily slow PT3 is for invalid sets when you were updating baggins? |
| 00:30.09 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r26908 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: .Tablet-2.0 - transparency of tablet changes transparency of slider bar. |
| 00:30.12 | vhaarr | nymbia: no, I didn't try to use any invalid sets. |
| 00:30.17 | NeoTron | might be more important later once I start getting resist gear and stuff but right now i don't know if it's worth 1% and 2 slots in my inventory |
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| 00:31.00 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: eh, if you can get a guildy to make it for you for cheap/free, i'd say it is. I wouldn't pay market price for it though or anything |
| 00:31.19 | NeoTron | it's not ever free |
| 00:31.25 | NeoTron | since you need the mats |
| 00:31.32 | NeoTron | that even if you don't buy them is a loss of revenue |
| 00:31.53 | NightHawkTheSane | well, obviously |
| 00:31.54 | NeoTron | and if not bought, a loss of income from farming them |
| 00:31.58 | NeoTron | so theer's always a cost |
| 00:32.11 | NightHawkTheSane | but the mats for just one are pretty easy to come by just from leveling up, honestly |
| 00:33.09 | nymbia | vhaarr: ah.. i loaded it up with my old config that had a bunch of old-named sets.... took like 10 seconds to pull up a bag. problem is that for invalid set names, it scans all the existing sets for possible child sets, ie for a call to something like "Consumable".. but when it's an invalid set name, it scans everything then nothing gets cached. only takes a hundredth of a second tops, but baggins calls iteminset like 3500 times |
| 00:33.19 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26909 10Grid/Grid.toc: Grid: Add SEEA OptDep. |
| 00:34.01 | vhaarr | nymbia: I had never used baggins before 10 minutes before the first commit. |
| 00:34.08 | vhaarr | nymbia: I don't have PT2 here, so it errored. |
| 00:34.11 | vhaarr | nymbia: So I fixed it. |
| 00:34.13 | vhaarr | :P |
| 00:34.19 | nymbia | vhaarr: fair enough ;) |
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| 00:37.00 | nymbia | vhaarr: well, if people whine that you made their baggins lag, now you know why, just make em update their PT set names. |
| 00:37.15 | vhaarr | right |
| 00:37.37 | vhaarr | nymbia: I cleaned up Mendeleev, considerably. It still needs that GetRecipeTree thingy. |
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| 00:38.01 | nymbia | vhaarr: ok, i'll take a look at it when i get the chance |
| 00:39.35 | NightHawkTheSane | (I guess it's good i saw this, so I don't wonder why baggins is going to lag when I next log in eh?) |
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| 00:40.51 | nymbia | yup |
| 00:40.54 | nymbia | lol |
| 00:41.49 | NightHawkTheSane | of course, more than likely i would have just accepted it in ignorant bliss, assuming it was my piss poor computer being a pain again |
| 00:42.05 | Nickenyfiken | oh how i love Mendeleev |
| 00:42.10 | CIA-17 | 03mok * r26910 10GemList/ (GemList.toc localization.lua): |
| 00:42.10 | CIA-17 | GemList: |
| 00:42.10 | CIA-17 | - changed helptext |
| 00:42.10 | CIA-17 | - typo in TOC |
| 00:42.48 | NeoTron | I would love an addon that gave me a list of possible gems for a slot when you moused it over |
| 00:42.52 | NeoTron | that'd be nice |
| 00:43.59 | Nickenyfiken | yeah |
| 00:44.03 | Mok | hm |
| 00:44.33 | OvrLrd-Q | somebody NMU BigWigs for me :P, it's missing a comma |
| 00:44.57 | NeoTron | imagine a distributed gem-database in the guild |
| 00:45.15 | NeoTron | so when you mouseover a slot you get a list of gems jewelers in the guild can make including who can make each gem |
| 00:45.18 | NeoTron | :) |
| 00:46.33 | Mok | :D |
| 00:46.52 | Mok | i dont like database addons :P |
| 00:48.06 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r26911 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Curator.lua: |
| 00:48.06 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Karazhan: |
| 00:48.06 | CIA-17 | -Curator, lets be cool |
| 00:49.07 | winkiller | after using standalone, some stuff can't find touristlib, all others are fine |
| 00:49.29 | winkiller | how can I fix that? got the TouristLib/Tourist-2.0 folder |
| 00:49.41 | Funkeh` | OvrLrd-Q whats the error you get |
| 00:49.53 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26912 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Curator.lua: BigWigs: Curator: Fix drycoding errors. |
| 00:50.04 | Funkeh` | nevermind <3 vhaarr |
| 00:50.10 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 00:51.03 | OvrLrd-Q | :) |
| 00:51.14 | Funkeh` | heh, were human, and its late :p |
| 00:51.21 | Pneumatus | didnt even get an attempt on Moroes tonight let alone Curator :< |
| 00:51.29 | Funkeh` | he sucks nuts |
| 00:51.37 | Funkeh` | she |
| 00:51.39 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 00:52.09 | Funkeh` | and we got bigbadwolf for opera, was fun shouting, DONT TAKE THE SHORTCUT |
| 00:52.27 | OvrLrd-Q | Im jealous, we've barly even started ZG, much less any of the new dungeons, course I guess that's what you get for rolling ona RP server |
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| 00:53.05 | Funkeh` | loot isn't 'that' great tbh |
| 00:53.21 | Pneumatus | in Kara? |
| 00:53.25 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 00:53.28 | OvrLrd-Q | I'm not worried about loot, I just wanna see content :) |
| 00:53.38 | Funkeh` | i think i got a bracer with 2 extra healing than my t3 bracers |
| 00:53.39 | Pneumatus | i got my first epic there today, an xbow |
| 00:54.52 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: well you have tier 3 too though |
| 00:55.02 | Funkeh` | true |
| 00:55.09 | NeoTron | T3 ~= low level lvl 69-70 gear |
| 00:55.11 | Funkeh` | dungeion 1 sets own t2 |
| 00:55.12 | Ordog | is there a seen addon already? like saying !seen nick in guild channel and everyone with that script looks up if he saw that guy (using acecomm so only one answers) ? even possible? |
| 00:55.20 | Funkeh` | nevermind karazhan |
| 00:55.42 | NeoTron | my newbie log has >700 spell damage (with fel armor mind you) |
| 00:55.43 | vhaarr | Ordog: AuldLangSyne works for friends. |
| 00:55.49 | Idylla | doesn't the guild page tell you when someone was last online ? :P |
| 00:55.55 | NeoTron | only a few items aer lvl 70 dungeon items |
| 00:56.11 | OvrLrd-Q | Ordog: anybody, or just people in your guild? |
| 00:56.15 | Ordog | hm ok vhaarr |
| 00:56.17 | OvrLrd-Q | cuz if just guild, the guild page shows that |
| 00:56.28 | Ordog | oh ^^ |
| 00:56.34 | Ordog | you are right -.- |
| 00:57.34 | Pneumatus | Steelhawk Crossbow certainly beats the crap out of Nerubian Slavemaker though |
| 00:57.48 | Pneumatus | first boss of kara compared to last boss of naxx |
| 00:57.49 | Ordog | is that addon getting the times from the server or is there some client communication going on? |
| 00:59.15 | vhaarr | Nothing, it just shows when you last saw a person online. |
| 00:59.20 | vhaarr | provided he's on your friends list. |
| 00:59.30 | Ordog | hm ok |
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| 01:01.44 | art3mis | hey |
| 01:01.56 | art3mis | ya know how chatwho # will show hows all on the channel? |
| 01:02.10 | art3mis | did they change that or something between 1.12 and 2.0? |
| 01:02.25 | Tain | I use chatinfo |
| 01:02.29 | Tain | So not sure. |
| 01:02.37 | art3mis | is that like cirks chatmanager? |
| 01:02.45 | art3mis | cuz his used to display them there as well |
| 01:02.56 | art3mis | but if i run it i cant see the output |
| 01:03.13 | art3mis | so iw as thinking of correcting it, but whats this chatinfo you speak of |
| 01:04.56 | Tain | No just a normal game command. /chatinfo |
| 01:05.49 | Proph | Baggins Broken?? with the latest mod?? |
| 01:07.02 | Tain | Filthy Baggins@ |
| 01:07.02 | Funkeh` | omg????????? |
| 01:07.19 | vhaarr | ???!!11 |
| 01:07.23 | Funkeh` | its np vhaarr will cry for you |
| 01:07.32 | vhaarr | No, I won't. |
| 01:07.41 | Funkeh` | useless you are |
| 01:07.46 | SlackerJer | art3mis: what do you think changed on that? |
| 01:09.38 | Proph | blah..can't even downgrade baggins |
| 01:09.49 | Proph | guess i'm gonna have to use \libs folder in baggins to get it working |
| 01:10.08 | Proph | baggins just like cartographer...requires u to have \libs\ to get working...shitty |
| 01:10.23 | Funkeh` | how did you come up with that conclusion |
| 01:10.35 | Funkeh` | please, enlighten me |
| 01:13.09 | Diabolic-Destiny | im havn troubl wit |
| 01:13.13 | Diabolic-Destiny | cartographer |
| 01:14.13 | Diabolic-Destiny | in hellfire ramperts the bosses are not placed where they actually are |
| 01:14.15 | ckknight | Proph: you're quite full of it, you know? |
| 01:14.16 | kergoth | Proph: hm? i've used standalones with both just fine... |
| 01:14.19 | Diabolic-Destiny | and at times the loot table is hidden |
| 01:14.24 | ckknight | Diabolic-Destiny: looks like it's time to fix it then ;-) |
| 01:14.27 | kergoth | you know whats shitty? users. |
| 01:14.51 | Diabolic-Destiny | n currently when i can actualy view it the tooltip is in the top right corner with nothing visible |
| 01:14.56 | Diabolic-Destiny | not the tooltip but the list of item drops |
| 01:15.01 | Funkeh` | yeah, i can see how baggins seems to have shot up a bit in memory usage |
| 01:15.51 | Funkeh` | wamup says its the biggest addon now 1.7meg |
| 01:16.13 | ckknight | Diabolic-Destiny: the tooltip contains the list. |
| 01:16.49 | ckknight | Diabolic-Destiny: make sure you're fully updated |
| 01:16.52 | ckknight | if you are, screenshot |
| 01:17.33 | Proph | kerg: must be some mod i'm using then...messing up cartog/baggins then |
| 01:17.41 | Proph | everything working fine until todays update |
| 01:19.22 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26913 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Fix swapping items when adding a set. |
| 01:22.34 | kagaro_food | anyone know what ooze covered gold vein is a rae spawn of ? |
| 01:23.24 | NightHawkTheSane | uh, ooze covered iron vein? |
| 01:23.30 | Tain | I think ooze covered veins just spawn in certain places, they're just normal veins. |
| 01:23.50 | kagaro_food | Tain: nahh the ooze covered treusilver span sometimes from ooze covered throium |
| 01:24.20 | Tain | ehn I don't dig ooze |
| 01:25.42 | Lysithea | ooze covered = down in those insect lairs mainly |
| 01:25.51 | Lysithea | 1k needles, silithus, tanaris |
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| 01:28.37 | Funkeh` | im seem to be getting the same problem witch i did with arkinventory, which is why i swapped to baggins in the first place, big ass lag spike when opening my bags |
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| 01:31.25 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07PT3 * r26914 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.lua MendeleevCats.lua MendeleevGlobals.lua): Mendeleev: More cleanups, add proper options for level, id and stack size. |
| 01:34.18 | CIA-17 | 03laotseu * r26915 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed-enUS.lua AllPlayed.lua): |
| 01:34.19 | CIA-17 | AllPlayed: |
| 01:34.19 | CIA-17 | - Added 4 other sort types |
| 01:35.22 | sylvanaar | good evening, seems like everyone is busy, eventful night? |
| 01:37.31 | Tain | Smallville is on |
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| 01:41.07 | break19 | ckknight: for what its worth, I use cart with the standalones, and everything works fine.. just had to install an additional lib not included with the standalones is all |
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| 01:49.20 | RUBiK | kemayo around? |
| 01:50.12 | break19 | this is weird.. friend of mine who is an ace convert btw... his clockfu isnt showing the time.. just showing "clockfu" on his fubar |
| 01:50.21 | RUBiK | i'll ask anyway.. would it be easy to mod questsfu so that esc key closes popup quest description tooltip? |
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| 01:53.24 | kagaro | damn why can you never find a rare node when you need to test something |
| 01:58.13 | Tain | Probably because they are... rare. |
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| 01:59.40 | RUBiK | cart mining is b0rked |
| 01:59.49 | RUBiK | doesn't show icons and tries to index 'icon' |
| 02:00.14 | RUBiK | [2007/02/01 17:46:35-215-x1]: Cartographer_Mining\addon.lua:351: attempt to index field 'icon' (a nil value) |
| 02:00.23 | xyu | anyone know how i can get my carto points of interest back :( |
| 02:00.26 | xyu | and the side panel |
| 02:01.06 | xyu | disappeared suddenly |
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| 02:08.50 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r26916 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua: PeriodicTable-3.0: If an invalid set is requested, cache it as empty. This should deal with lag for Baggins updaters. |
| 02:09.02 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r26917 10BigWigs/Karazhan/TheBigBadWolf.lua: |
| 02:09.02 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Karazhan: |
| 02:09.02 | CIA-17 | - TheBigBadWolf, updated |
| 02:09.02 | CIA-17 | - removed sync, small room |
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| 02:16.14 | kagaro | RUBIK: update your installation |
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| 02:20.07 | Funkeh` | wow |
| 02:20.10 | Funkeh` | jsut read the forums |
| 02:20.18 | Funkeh` | tracking how much memory each addons uses in 2.1 |
| 02:20.24 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26918 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining: rare spawn node adjustments |
| 02:20.25 | Funkeh` | nice |
| 02:20.26 | cladhaire | =) |
| 02:20.39 | break19 | woot |
| 02:20.44 | nymbia | oh dang |
| 02:20.53 | nymbia | that'll be nice |
| 02:20.58 | Funkeh` | gotta love those devs sometimes |
| 02:21.15 | cladhaire | he's also changing the pause to my value |
| 02:21.30 | Funkeh` | what value? |
| 02:21.35 | cladhaire | it should be very nice. |
| 02:21.36 | break19 | yep.. now we'll know who's at fault when stuff decides to eat my precious 1GB of ram |
| 02:21.40 | cladhaire | i believe he's goign with 130 |
| 02:21.48 | Funkeh` | seems cool |
| 02:21.51 | Tain | Precious, my precious |
| 02:22.04 | break19 | no!@ You cant HAVE MY PRECIOUS RAM! |
| 02:23.05 | Funkeh` | any other treats i don't know about you have planned on trying to sneak it clad? :P |
| 02:23.20 | cladhaire | Slouken did a lot in this next patch |
| 02:23.22 | cladhaire | just enjoy =) |
| 02:23.27 | Tain | its a surprise |
| 02:23.48 | Funkeh` | hes being so nice lately, so helpful |
| 02:23.58 | Funkeh` | complying with mod authors = win |
| 02:26.54 | vhaarr | nymbia: Isn't Symbol of Kings missing from Reagent.Class.Paladin? |
| 02:27.41 | kagaro | clad: is there a post about it ? |
| 02:27.49 | nymbia | vhaarr: so it is |
| 02:27.52 | cladhaire | kagaro: its in the 2.1 changes thread |
| 02:28.19 | vhaarr | nymbia: And I think lots of stuff is missing from Consumable.Mage |
| 02:28.23 | Funkeh` | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63167579&sid=1&pageNo=3#52 kagaro |
| 02:28.30 | kagaro | thanks |
| 02:28.32 | vhaarr | nymbia: no, nevermind |
| 02:29.53 | kagaro | sweet |
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| 02:33.33 | CIA-17 | 03archarodim * r26919 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: .Babble-Boss-2.2 : Multi locals "fix" so the latest version of BigWigs doesn't spam errors because of BabbleBoss:SetStrictness(true). |
| 02:34.05 | Birdemani[FH] | http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6154372.html RIP ebayed characters |
| 02:34.06 | kagaro | this i should pull out the shortcut names for ores from babble-ore ? |
| 02:38.00 | anenigma | Been looking into ItemBonusLib. It reports how your gear affects you (hence Item). The 'GetCritChance()' returns total crit chance, not just what your gear does. I'd prefer the original way, even if it isn't perfectly accurate. Other comments? |
| 02:40.29 | nymbia | anenigma: the tooltip displays the amount of crit rating on your gear, you should be able to derive an exact amount from that without needing to scan the gear |
| 02:42.09 | anenigma | My tooltip (iirc, I'm at work) displayed total crit chance? And reading API (http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCritChance) it seems the function added does the same thing? |
| 02:42.29 | anenigma | We are talking tooltips on the paperdoll, I assume, when hovering over the critical chance? |
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| 02:44.32 | anenigma | Or do you mean, read that chance, remove the crit given by agi, remove crit given by talents, remove crit given by buffs etc? |
| 02:45.52 | vhaarr | nymbia: Consumable.Warlock. has "Health Stone" and 3 other categories; Firestone, Soulstone and Spellstone; why is Health Stone written as two words and the others not? |
| 02:46.46 | nymbia | anenigma: when you hover over crit chance in the char sheet, it displays the total rating on your gear. |
| 02:46.50 | nymbia | vhaarr: no idea |
| 02:46.58 | vhaarr | nymbia: change it? |
| 02:47.10 | nymbia | vhaarr: you want to or should i? |
| 02:47.25 | anenigma | nymbia: Alright, I must've missed it, I see what you mean then |
| 02:47.31 | vhaarr | nymbia: I'm not familiar with PT internals, you'd do it faster anyway. |
| 02:47.44 | nymbia | vhaarr: ok |
| 02:49.42 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r26920 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: |
| 02:49.42 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Waypoints : |
| 02:49.42 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:50.19 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r26921 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: "Consumable.Warlock.Health Stone" -> "Consumable.Warlock.Healthstone" |
| 02:57.46 | anenigma | Hmm. Seems there are two new functions. GetCombatRating and GetCombatRatingBonus, taking CR_CRIT_MELEE etc. At least, blizzard uses them in paperdoll. Now I wish I had a wow install to play with. |
| 02:58.36 | nymbia | they should so just what you expect |
| 02:58.53 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: if you're updating pt3, i just noticed some of the new alchy pots arn't in the appropriate Consumable.Potions.whatever categories |
| 02:59.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Onslaught elixir and Elixir of Major strength are the two specific ones i noticed, but it might be otherse as well |
| 02:59.50 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: about to do an instance but i'll take a look a bit later on :) |
| 03:00.10 | NightHawkTheSane | no worries :) |
| 03:00.18 | NightHawkTheSane | i just figured if you had it up and were doing it :) |
| 03:02.10 | anenigma | woah. There's actually 3 different types of resilience, versus magic, ranged and melee according to this |
| 03:05.46 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r26922 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua: |
| 03:05.46 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Stats : |
| 03:05.47 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 03:07.08 | vhaarr | nymbia: I get an error when using the Item Search in PT3Browser |
| 03:07.16 | vhaarr | PeriodicTable-3.0-26898:267: attempt to concatenate local 'item' (a nil value) |
| 03:08.07 | a-stray-cat | is there any way to send all your mining points at once to someone else? |
| 03:08.12 | a-stray-cat | with cartographer mining? |
| 03:08.25 | a-stray-cat | rather than clicking on each and sending them >.> |
| 03:09.53 | nymbia | vhaarr: hm your line numbers are different from the working copy.. what are you using as your input? |
| 03:10.16 | vhaarr | nymbia: check the funky revision number in the error message |
| 03:10.22 | vhaarr | PeriodicTable-3.0-26898 |
| 03:11.47 | OverlordQ | hurm |
| 03:11.51 | nymbia | vhaarr: whats wrong with that? |
| 03:12.06 | vhaarr | nymbia: nothing, I'm just saying "no, I don't have the latest revision" |
| 03:12.20 | OverlordQ | anybody else get the bug in Cartographer_Waypoints? |
| 03:13.08 | nymbia | vhaarr: yeah. got it reproduced now though |
| 03:13.15 | vhaarr | alright |
| 03:14.29 | OverlordQ | http://ace.pastey.net/5843 |
| 03:16.08 | Amadeo | anyone else getting spammed with these? |
| 03:16.12 | Amadeo | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:16.29 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r26923 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua: PeriodicTable-3.0: Don't error when ItemSearch()'ing for something invalid. |
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| 03:22.54 | Amadeo | I gotta figure out what that spam is coming from |
| 03:23.01 | Amadeo | I see the same errors from MSBT |
| 03:24.25 | kergoth | getting those, no idea whats causing the taint :( |
| 03:25.02 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r26924 10PT3Browser/PT3Browser.lua: PT3Browser: No more errors when searching for uncached items. |
| 03:34.11 | Amadeo | does it happen when you swap weapons? |
| 03:34.13 | Amadeo | maybe it's BT3 |
| 03:35.52 | kergoth | no, seems random in combat |
| 03:36.13 | Amadeo | hm |
| 03:36.20 | Amadeo | I notice a strange frame appearing in agUF |
| 03:36.29 | Amadeo | it appears when you lose combat, like a bar under the target frame |
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| 03:40.12 | Amadeo | WoWI: Worst search function ever? |
| 03:41.26 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r26925 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Hide details tablet when escape pressed. |
| 03:41.38 | Kemayo | RUBiK: There you go. |
| 03:41.50 | nymbia | Kemayo: best commit ever. |
| 03:42.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: <3 |
| 03:42.37 | Amadeo | awesome! |
| 03:42.40 | CIA-17 | 03stupid * r26926 10RS_ClassColors/: RS_ClassColors: initial import |
| 03:43.04 | Kemayo | Gosh, I didn't realize so many people wanted that... |
| 03:43.33 | PProvost | Kemayo, how about making the width configurable? It got wider lately and it is just too wide. |
| 03:43.50 | PProvost | I keep resetting it to 300 or so, but of course I lose that when it updates. :) |
| 03:44.22 | Amadeo | Anyone know what happened to Tuller? He just vanished one day |
| 03:44.26 | nymbia | Kemayo: one little request -- to show the "Suggested Players [2]" thing |
| 03:44.39 | PProvost | oooh.. that would be nice. |
| 03:46.47 | Tain | Also you know what would be a great addition? Have it complete the entire quest for you. |
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| 03:48.46 | Amadeo | THat's an awesome idea! |
| 03:54.33 | CIA-17 | 03stupid * r26927 10RS_ClassColors/ (Core.lua Hooks.lua Libs/ Locale-enUS.lua RS_ClassColors.toc): RS_ClassColors: Initial files import, version 1.2 |
| 03:56.25 | Amadeo | I want a WoW IRC client |
| 03:57.01 | Amadeo | hell, it can connect to battle.net for all I care |
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| 04:13.32 | Birdemani[FH] | is ora supposed to be spamming me who has joined my group? |
| 04:13.47 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07Rabbit * r26928 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ (4 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_ReagentFu: PT3-enabled item tracker! |
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| 04:17.54 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07Rabbit * r26929 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ (FuBar_ReagentFu.toc libs/): FuBar_ReagentFu: Forgot Babble. |
| 04:17.59 | WobWork | So. |
| 04:18.18 | WobWork | GuildPoint works fine due to GuildPositions |
| 04:18.32 | WobWork | Any ideas how I would get the coordinates of party/raid members? |
| 04:18.51 | WobWork | The only way I can think of is by extending GP to broadcast to party/raid as well |
| 04:24.21 | Mikma | hmm RS_ClassColors got aced |
| 04:24.32 | Mikma | i hope the Itemlinked lines work now |
| 04:24.44 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r26930 10Prat/ (Prat.toc extras/blank-module.lua modules/Filtering.lua): Prat: Adds filtering module + puts Fin's module template in the extras folder |
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| 04:37.33 | PogoTribal | I love PvP on my warrior |
| 04:38.07 | PogoTribal | with good gear and played well, it's not bad taking down any class |
| 04:39.31 | Chompers | Except a mage |
| 04:39.53 | PogoTribal | yeah mages are hard as hell |
| 04:40.06 | PogoTribal | unless they use both frost nova and blink right away |
| 04:40.26 | PogoTribal | then I can usually intercept and pummel for the kill |
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| 04:41.03 | PogoTribal | most of them blink right from the charge though |
| 04:42.56 | steev | i like sapping and sprinting away from a mage, then watching them burn half their mana doing arcane explosions and frost novas |
| 04:50.14 | xyu | i like to dragons breath sheep warriors now :D |
| 04:50.18 | xyu | they don't really see that coming. |
| 04:50.28 | xyu | since most pop trinkets vs me. |
| 04:50.33 | xyu | and i'm squishy ass fire mage |
| 04:50.56 | anenigma | bah. need WoW at work. got a new version of itembonuslib w/ the new functions ready for testing |
| 04:54.34 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r26931 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFuLocals-koKR.lua: |
| 04:54.34 | CIA-17 | FuBar_TopScoreFu : |
| 04:54.34 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 04:58.16 | xyu | Does anyone know why i might not have the "Quest Timer" bar as well as the WOrld pvp cap timers? |
| 04:58.28 | xyu | would it be a UI disabling them somewhere? |
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| 05:00.56 | Funkeh` | i don't know about the quest timer, but ive never had the world pvp mini maps |
| 05:01.05 | Funkeh` | ever since the world pvp cmae out, never had it lol |
| 05:01.39 | Funkeh` | never really cared to find out why |
| 05:02.21 | Eej | sounds like you're just bad, xyu |
| 05:02.37 | xyu | that's a given ! :D |
| 05:02.50 | xyu | but i want my bars >< |
| 05:03.08 | xyu | i think its nurfed but i can't find any way to turn it on |
| 05:03.16 | Funkeh` | i think simpleminimap moves them |
| 05:03.25 | xyu | hmm i have that as well |
| 05:03.45 | Funkeh` | try ticking the show frames option of whatever the module is called |
| 05:04.16 | Funkeh` | maybe one is out the screen partially |
| 05:04.19 | xyu | i'm not even sure what its called |
| 05:07.25 | xyu | haha i was looking for windows behind chat boxes etc. and found something called "CaptureMover" i dont even know what that is |
| 05:07.28 | xyu | been there the whole time tho |
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| 05:07.45 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26932 10FuBar_AmmoFu/AmmoFu.lua: FuBar_AmmoFu: Toned down the amount of updates, only updates every 5 seconds now, and only if it needs to. |
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| 05:12.43 | xyu | n/m it was from when i enabled simple minimap movers |
| 05:15.44 | xyu | Hmm seems it is off the screen, not sure how to get to it though |
| 05:16.07 | xyu | i think the module is called "Movers" or QuestTimerFrame |
| 05:16.09 | xyu | in smm |
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| 05:21.53 | Eej | yes |
| 05:22.16 | Eej | theyr'e usually positioned below minimap, so if you moved the minimap, you'll have to move that stuff too |
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| 05:29.49 | CIA-17 | 03benumbed * r26933 10Epeen/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Epeen - Misc. Bugs Fixed and Prep Work |
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| 05:39.58 | CIA-17 | 03zealotonastick * r26934 10Voyeur/ (Voyeur.lua Voyeur.toc license.txt): |
| 05:39.58 | CIA-17 | Voyeur: |
| 05:39.58 | CIA-17 | - Added item caching code contributed by Sorata, credited him in x-creds and license. He also cleaned up a lot of my extraneous semicolons and stuff. |
| 05:39.58 | CIA-17 | Very brief testing on this, someone let me know what this breaks. |
| 05:40.48 | ilifin | ZealotOnAStick, item caching as in storing data about people you've inspected before? |
| 05:41.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Current/last inspect only. |
| 05:41.24 | ZealotOnAStick | So you can continue to view gear when they move out of range, or take a look again after you break inspect due to combat or so forth. |
| 05:41.25 | ilifin | ah, so that if people log out the frame won't go poof? |
| 05:41.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Not like a db. |
| 05:41.51 | ZealotOnAStick | Mmm, I didn't test that case specifically. Rather tired right now, just gave it a quick run through. |
| 05:42.28 | ilifin | sounds nice, I'll get to testing it once people actually are online on my server, shattrath is as clean as darnassus |
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| 05:44.56 | ilifin | _neuron_ - ping |
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| 05:50.49 | Wobin | blah |
| 05:54.25 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r26935 10BigWigs/Karazhan/RomuloJulianne.lua: |
| 05:54.25 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Karazhan: RomuloJulianne: |
| 05:54.25 | CIA-17 | - removed blinding passion alert, too spammy |
| 05:54.25 | CIA-17 | - added heal alert (eternal affection) |
| 05:54.40 | WobWork | RomuloJulianne? =) |
| 05:54.50 | WobWork | That's ... scary =P |
| 05:55.00 | Mikma | oh gawd. House Season2 marathon is over |
| 05:55.13 | Mikma | now i have to wait for the season3 dvdbox :P |
| 05:55.24 | kebinusan | thats what the interweb is for mikma |
| 05:55.35 | ilifin | is it season 2 that kid gets a soldier, a firetruck and a policeman stuck up his nose? |
| 05:55.43 | OverlordQ | lol |
| 05:56.03 | Mikma | ilifin: what else happens in that episode? can't remember is it season1 or 2 |
| 05:56.18 | ilifin | I don't remember it fully |
| 05:56.25 | OverlordQ | episode on the other day where he started paying people to leave the hospital lol |
| 05:56.41 | ilifin | but I know that he has this teenager with his lil bro visit who gets those 3 items stuck in his nose, once at a time |
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| 05:57.06 | ilifin | and in the end they find out there's some magnetic cat up his nose |
| 05:57.26 | ilifin | "your little brother wasn't too dumb after all, he was sending teams in to save the cat" |
| 05:57.39 | Mikma | well... http://www.fox.com/house/recaps/ |
| 05:58.27 | WobWork | rofl |
| 05:58.33 | ilifin | I've only seen bits here and there of the show, can't help you without spoiling myself :p |
| 05:58.42 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r26936 10MCP-QQ/ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: wrap tooltip text |
| 05:59.16 | Mikma | i can't remember which season it was :O |
| 06:02.52 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.55 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
| 06:04.21 | Mikma | tired :P 8am here, been up all night |
| 06:07.16 | Kemayo | I just accidentally took a two hour nap. |
| 06:07.23 | ckknight | hehe |
| 06:15.58 | Birdemani[FH] | is there a way to find out if anyone else in your guild is on the same quest? |
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| 06:17.03 | Kemayo | Not unless you have some addon sharing data, or are standing right next to them and are in a party. |
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| 06:35.01 | todd` | are there any mods that allow you to add notes to quests |
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| 06:37.58 | DhragaWork | yaawn... morning all |
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| 06:39.54 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r26937 10Buffalo/Buffalo.xml: Buffalo - fix truncated duration times |
| 06:39.55 | DhragaWork | I have a question regarding the normal fizzle sound a trinket makes... is it possible to script that to silent during a macro press ? |
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| 06:42.00 | CIA-17 | 03cgcrafty * r26938 10ag_UnitFrames/layouts/oUF.lua: |
| 06:42.00 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames: |
| 06:42.00 | CIA-17 | - Added CastBar to oUF layout. |
| 06:42.17 | chuckg_ | That's me! |
| 06:42.36 | ckknight | chuckg: ? |
| 06:42.51 | chuckg | I've done SVN, just not on wowace. |
| 06:43.01 | chuckg | And I was whining about cast bars not being in oUF layout of aguf yesterday. |
| 06:43.03 | chuckg | Or the day before. |
| 06:45.47 | ckknight | ah |
| 06:45.52 | ckknight | you're cgcrafty |
| 06:46.04 | chuckg | I don't know why I got cgcrafty :| |
| 06:46.07 | chuckg | Requested chuckg. |
| 06:47.55 | Funkeh` | le sigh, 4 hours downloading stargate ep19 and its out of fucking sync |
| 06:50.08 | Health | pwnd. |
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| 06:55.48 | Adirelle | gaaaah, that mess with cart quest notes is driving me crazy... |
| 06:55.54 | Adirelle | (morning) |
| 06:56.11 | Funkeh` | morning |
| 06:56.21 | Funkeh` | im off |
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| 07:09.14 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle * r26939 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: |
| 07:09.14 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests: |
| 07:09.14 | CIA-17 | - added notes tidying code. |
| 07:13.08 | neenee | Hm. Does anyone have any idea on this problem: http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7830/uhohfc9.png |
| 07:13.10 | neenee | And good morning ;) |
| 07:17.38 | DhragaWork | morning neenee |
| 07:17.38 | neenee | morning |
| 07:35.44 | kebinusan | Hmm is there a mod to track how many potions you make between discoveries |
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| 07:36.48 | DhragaWork | no idea keb |
| 07:36.56 | nymbia | doubt it |
| 07:37.07 | nymbia | have you actually gotten more than 1? |
| 07:38.26 | DhragaWork | how hard are bliz for data\ alteration.... Was thinking of altering the fizzle sound wave files to empty ones ? |
| 07:39.38 | nymbia | can probably just stop them from firing |
| 07:39.55 | DhragaWork | there are "addons" like the mortal kombat addon that chages your sound files and I havent heard that it's bannable |
| 07:39.55 | NightHawkTheSane | i havn't gotten even one discovery :\ |
| 07:40.02 | DhragaWork | Hmmm nymbia... |
| 07:40.20 | nymbia | yeah 0 discoveries here |
| 07:40.25 | DhragaWork | Nymbia, you have any idea how to do it ? |
| 07:40.36 | nymbia | got a transmute spec proc on my first one though :D |
| 07:40.50 | nymbia | DhragaWork: just make a crapload of potions. |
| 07:41.02 | nymbia | DhragaWork: and get lucky. |
| 07:41.09 | Cyrez | ckknight: I noticed that when I move the mouse outside of the map, it keeps updating the cursor and range info anyway... It might be less confusing if the numbers changed to --- like it would in Photoshop if you went outside of the canvas. |
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| 07:41.24 | ckknight | meh. |
| 07:41.54 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r26940 10/branches/BulkMail/: BulkMail: Create branch folder for some GUI meddling. |
| 07:41.55 | Cyrez | I know, just a thought... It's more of a cosmetic thing than anything else... |
| 07:42.17 | neenee | Hm. Does anyone have any idea on this problem: http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7830/uhohfc9.png |
| 07:42.30 | DhragaWork | nymbia, lol I thought you refered to the fizzle when you said 'stop them from firing'... I guess you where talking about potions then ;) |
| 07:42.36 | Health | ckknight: Would it be hard to add your own arrow in instances? :) |
| 07:42.57 | nymbia | DhragaWork: you meant the spellcast fail sounds right? |
| 07:43.02 | DhragaWork | Aye |
| 07:43.12 | nymbia | yeah should be able to stop those |
| 07:43.35 | DhragaWork | any idea where I could find info on it, i have been looking but unsuccessfull |
| 07:44.04 | neenee | There are no coordinates in instances, so I am not sure that would be possible? |
| 07:44.22 | nymbia | not sure off the top of my head.. and i'm in shattered halls so i cant really check ;) |
| 07:44.47 | DhragaWork | neenee, I can see your picture |
| 07:44.53 | neenee | can? |
| 07:44.55 | DhragaWork | neenee : cant* |
| 07:44.59 | neenee | That's odd |
| 07:45.16 | Health | You get no coord info from the API in instances? |
| 07:45.31 | DhragaWork | nymbia, okies good luck in SH |
| 07:45.39 | neenee | one moment then |
| 07:45.43 | nymbia | DhragaWork: thanks :) |
| 07:45.46 | neenee | http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2ytpfsk |
| 07:45.47 | neenee | there |
| 07:46.31 | DhragaWork | neenee, now I see your picture, what about it ? |
| 07:48.29 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo 07Kemayo * r26941 10BulkMail/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:48.29 | CIA-17 | BulkMail (Kemayo): |
| 07:48.29 | CIA-17 | -Remove Ace+AceGUI dependency (rewritten GUI as a tablet, downside of which is losing the ability to drop items onto it) |
| 07:48.29 | CIA-17 | -Remove compost+dewdrop, which weren't used any more |
| 07:48.29 | CIA-17 | -Switch out table.getn for #, 'cause I think it's prettier. |
| 07:49.00 | neenee | DhragaWork: Well, I don't know what's causing that and was hoping for insight some people here. |
| 07:49.01 | Kemayo | Now I can finally delete Ace and AceGUI. |
| 07:49.37 | ckknight | # is also faster. |
| 07:49.43 | ckknight | (though not by much) |
| 07:49.49 | ckknight | since table.getn just calls # |
| 07:49.49 | Kemayo | I think prettier is the more important reason, though. |
| 07:50.49 | DhragaWork | neenee, All I see is a fat dwarf on a ram, 2 boxes of Grid with no border, and one half frame of something else at the bottom... Is that the right picture ? |
| 07:51.04 | Health | neenee: I had that too yesterday, but on an orc. |
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| 07:52.39 | DhragaWork | gotta go and work some, afk |
| 07:53.34 | neenee | DhragaAFK: Yes, but the problem is that part of the texture on the dwarf is completelyblack |
| 07:53.38 | neenee | *competely black |
| 08:00.45 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo 07Kemayo * r26942 10BulkMail/ (. BulkMail.lua): BulkMail (Kemayo): Make dropping items onto the GUI work again. |
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| 08:17.00 | ckknight | is the 2h mace/axe a good talent for my shaman? |
| 08:18.09 | Health | 2h > shield for leveling |
| 08:18.14 | markv | ckknight i love you because of the sharing in cartographer |
| 08:18.21 | ckknight | you're welcome |
| 08:18.27 | Health | Let's make love with ckknight! |
| 08:18.32 | markv | yes, let's |
| 08:18.38 | Health | to* |
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| 08:28.16 | DhragaAFK | Neenee, have you tried to rename your WDB folder ? |
| 08:29.23 | DhragaAFK | neenee or trying the repair untility, it looks as if you have a damaged texture cache or file |
| 08:30.35 | DhragaAFK | LoL when reading a few lines up I'm starting to wonder if I'm in the right channel ;) (psst...ckknight have you sterted to get groupies? :P) |
| 08:30.56 | ckknight | I've had various groupies for a while |
| 08:31.02 | DhragaAFK | rofl! |
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| 08:31.52 | Health | Do the female users offer hot sex? |
| 08:32.14 | DhragaAFK | Your are to the addon community as the Chipmunks are to a hore of women ;) |
| 08:32.24 | DhragaAFK | *horde |
| 08:32.28 | DhragaAFK | not hore |
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| 08:36.43 | krka | there are no females on the internet! |
| 08:36.58 | Health | word. |
| 08:37.03 | Health | Except for you. |
| 08:37.05 | Health | HEHE |
| 08:37.13 | krka | HEHEHE |
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| 08:50.07 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: I can't catch how this could work : http://ace.pastey.net/5853 |
| 08:50.47 | ckknight | Adirelle|work: the second block should be deleted |
| 08:56.33 | anenigma | Ok, need testers. I've gotten the melee components of GetCombatRating() working w/ ItemBonusLib. Gonna test Spell stuff now |
| 08:56.51 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: I was thinking of adding http://ace.pastey.net/5854 (drycode) to add a OnNoteReceive handler |
| 08:57.02 | anenigma | Guess I'll have to update FuBar_ItemBonusFu as well |
| 08:57.34 | Adirelle|work | I'm still look for a way to integrate it smoothly in Noteshare, as it hooks Cartographer_Notes.OnCommReceive.NOTE |
| 08:57.53 | Adirelle|work | s/look for/looking for/ |
| 08:57.57 | anenigma | I don't have any real spell caster chars, so can't test spell stuff |
| 08:58.07 | ckknight | hrm |
| 08:58.28 | ckknight | maybe make a new global one specifically to allow it to be hooked |
| 08:58.42 | ckknight | not globa |
| 08:58.43 | ckknight | l |
| 08:59.06 | ckknight | just do function Cartographer_Notes:OnNoteReceive() end |
| 08:59.08 | ckknight | and call that. |
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| 08:59.45 | Adirelle|work | yep |
| 08:59.52 | anenigma | The only issue w/ using the Blizz API stuff is that we can't check individual slots for bonuses. Or item-links |
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| 09:01.40 | Adirelle|work | I'll have to pass more args (like sender, id and fullSender I guess) to avoid having it guessing it |
| 09:07.01 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 09:07.53 | anenigma | Anyway, who is Jerry? I've got ItemBonusLib working for him |
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| 09:17.55 | Daemona | lol teric is a jerk... |
| 09:18.02 | Daemona | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/73368221.htm |
| 09:19.44 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe, but he's right |
| 09:31.41 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: I'm ending up with something like http://ace.pastey.net/5855 (I try to minimize changes though I thing some things could be rewritten to be either more efficient either more readable) |
| 09:32.52 | ckknight | kay |
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| 09:40.27 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: I will test it when I'll be back to home, don't feel committing it as drycode :) |
| 09:42.25 | ckknight | k |
| 09:42.40 | Adirelle|work | do I annoy you ? |
| 09:43.20 | Health | He only like "female" groupies, kk? |
| 09:43.25 | Adirelle|work | lol |
| 09:43.41 | Health | Get a wig man. |
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| 09:51.44 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r26943 10Necronomicon2/ (Locales/enUS.lua Modules/Minion.lua Modules/Summon.lua): Necronomicon2: drycode fixing of summon module and more plumbing in minion moudle |
| 10:07.41 | Stephmw | mornin' |
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| 10:30.44 | axxo | what happened to wowhead? ;x |
| 10:32.42 | Stephmw | got blown? |
| 10:32.53 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r26944 10Automaton/modules/ (Ding.lua Mailer.lua Queue.lua Unshapeshift.lua): Automaton: esES updated |
| 10:37.36 | nymbia | wowhead's been terrible during the nights lately |
| 10:38.12 | CIA-17 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r26945 10Cartographer_Waypoints/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (WayPoint.lua Waypoint.lua): |
| 10:38.12 | CIA-17 | Cartographer |
| 10:38.12 | CIA-17 | - Standardised Naming |
| 10:38.19 | axxo | i got like a domain holder page with adds ;x |
| 10:38.53 | CIA-17 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r26946 10Cartographer_Waypoints/Cartographer_Waypoints/Notepoint.lua: |
| 10:38.53 | CIA-17 | Cartographer - |
| 10:38.53 | CIA-17 | eol style |
| 10:40.53 | CIA-17 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r26947 10Cartographer_Waypoints/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (. Artwork/): |
| 10:40.53 | CIA-17 | Cartographer: |
| 10:40.53 | CIA-17 | - tsvntemplate |
| 10:42.09 | CIA-17 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r26948 10Cartographer_Waypoints/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (NotePoint.lua Notepoint.lua): |
| 10:42.09 | CIA-17 | Cartographer - |
| 10:42.09 | CIA-17 | - Standardised naming scheme |
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| 10:52.34 | Chosi | oh noez |
| 10:52.37 | Chosi | my aguf are borken! |
| 10:57.46 | Chosi | anyone else's? |
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| 10:58.58 | Chosi | [2007/02/02 11:50:05-70-x1]: ag_UnitFrames\ag_UnitFrames.lua:1: AceAddon: AceOO-2.0: Library "FuBarPlugin-2.0" does not exist. |
| 10:59.08 | Chosi | that's the first of 22 errors i receive |
| 10:59.09 | Chosi | :/ |
| 10:59.27 | axxo | so fix it |
| 10:59.42 | Segatron | I guess u should install standalone ACE libs |
| 10:59.55 | Chosi | well my aguf used to work perfectly fine, i updated and now they're dead |
| 11:00.22 | Segatron | maybe u've updated the "without externals" version of it? |
| 11:00.36 | Segatron | (assuming u are using Ace Updater) |
| 11:00.50 | ckknight | Ace. |
| 11:00.52 | ckknight | not ACE |
| 11:01.00 | Segatron | ah |
| 11:01.03 | Segatron | Ace |
| 11:01.04 | Segatron | Ok :D |
| 11:01.10 | ckknight | where do you people keep getting ACE from? |
| 11:01.10 | ckknight | gah. |
| 11:01.20 | Chosi | the drink |
| 11:01.54 | ckknight | drink? |
| 11:01.55 | Chosi | https://frankenshopinfo.de/oscommerce/images/Pfanner%20ACE%202%20l.jpg |
| 11:01.56 | Chosi | ^^ |
| 11:02.09 | Chosi | in germany ace stands for the vitamins in it ;D |
| 11:02.15 | Chosi | and it' |
| 11:02.23 | Chosi | s some kind of juice |
| 11:03.21 | Chosi | anyways. what does F10 do in beta3? with or without externals? |
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| 11:03.52 | Segatron | no idea. Try download Aguf from files.wowace.com manually? |
| 11:04.28 | Chosi | i just deleted it and redownloaded it |
| 11:04.31 | Chosi | let's see |
| 11:05.54 | Chosi | werks. |
| 11:06.11 | Chosi | now automaton broke too with the latest update. same procedure then. |
| 11:06.28 | Chosi | err ckknight? |
| 11:06.39 | Chosi | even cart is moaning about missing libs [2007/02/02 12:04:02-71-x1]: Cartographer-r26830\Cartographer.lua:10: Cannot find a library instance of Crayon-2.0. |
| 11:06.47 | ckknight | it's your own fault. |
| 11:06.51 | Chosi | i think so. |
| 11:06.55 | ckknight | Cartographer includes it. |
| 11:07.02 | Segatron | Update all with externals with Ace Updater |
| 11:07.15 | Chosi | never use F10 in the beta! |
| 11:07.16 | Chosi | :P |
| 11:09.54 | Chosi | btw the Cartographer_ZoneInfo - Has no public versions - Skipping is intended and should be there when i install the package from wau? |
| 11:10.13 | sergio | is this the ACE channel |
| 11:10.19 | sergio | ACE |
| 11:10.24 | Segatron | Ace :P |
| 11:11.32 | kebinusan | bleh I really hate this alchemy discovery system |
| 11:11.52 | Chosi | no errors. yaay |
| 11:14.24 | axxo | kebinusan: discovered anything yet? |
| 11:15.10 | kebinusan | no |
| 11:15.40 | kebinusan | blizzards rng hates me |
| 11:16.03 | axxo | same here |
| 11:16.07 | nymbia | as fas as i know theres only one person with one discovered flask on my server. |
| 11:16.13 | axxo | do you know if what you make has any effect on it? |
| 11:16.17 | nymbia | i'm sure there's more but |
| 11:16.43 | nymbia | axxo: judging from beta, i'd say anything over 300 |
| 11:20.47 | Tornhoof | heh i know nobody who ever discovered anything |
| 11:20.54 | Tornhoof | probably does not work either ;) |
| 11:21.35 | nymbia | well i know someone who has one of the new flasks |
| 11:21.43 | nymbia | but.... yeah. |
| 11:21.49 | axxo | the potion mastery quest is fun |
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| 11:31.10 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r26949 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer_Waypoints: Removed the second (?!?) deDE Translation that prevent the first to work... Not so much copy&paste guys :) |
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| 11:36.49 | winkiller | hi. Cartographer and LocationFu can't find TouristLib (standalone) - all others work, any ideas? |
| 11:41.31 | Gamefaq | download them again , delete the old foldern, copy the new in, AND RESTART wow (no reload ui) |
| 11:42.56 | Wobin | So.. |
| 11:42.57 | Wobin | uh. |
| 11:43.05 | Wobin | Was there ever a RosterLib-2.1? |
| 11:43.14 | [Ammo] | there is |
| 11:43.18 | [Ammo] | not even was |
| 11:43.28 | [Ammo] | just no 2.2 :p |
| 11:43.31 | Wobin | No wikidoc? |
| 11:43.41 | [Ammo] | don't think api changed from 2.0 -> 2.1 |
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| 11:43.52 | Wobin | ah, kk |
| 11:43.57 | Wobin | just the library call |
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| 11:48.52 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley 07alpha * r26950 10WaterfallLib/WaterfallLib/Waterfall-0.1/Waterfall-0.1.lua: |
| 11:48.52 | CIA-17 | WaterfallLib: |
| 11:48.52 | CIA-17 | - More improvements to AceOptions table handling |
| 11:48.52 | CIA-17 | - New layout method for the right pane, uses available space better but scrollbar is wrong orientation for now |
| 11:49.54 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley * r26951 10Baggins/ (Baggins.lua libs/Sieve-0.1/Sieve-0.1.lua): Baggins: Change to Waterfall Aceoptions passing |
| 11:51.05 | JoshBorke | hm, what's WaterfallLib? |
| 11:51.08 | Nargiddley | gui config lib i'm working on |
| 11:51.17 | [Ammo] | nargiddley: is it a bit like khaos? |
| 11:51.32 | [Ammo] | because I wanted to code something like that :p |
| 11:51.32 | Nargiddley | not really |
| 11:51.34 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 11:51.35 | Nargiddley | http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6379/waterfallsi5.jpg |
| 11:51.49 | Nargiddley | used by addons in a similar way to them using dewdrop |
| 11:51.57 | Nargiddley | just a different format for the options |
| 11:51.59 | [Ammo] | that is something like I wanted to make ) |
| 11:52.04 | [Ammo] | saves me the trouble :) |
| 11:52.13 | [Ammo] | *moves Puddle design to junk* |
| 11:52.19 | [Ammo] | wanted to call it Puddle ) |
| 11:52.20 | abbat_w | :) |
| 11:52.29 | Nargiddley | i'm sure it could be used by something to show options for everything |
| 11:52.29 | Nargiddley | :D |
| 11:52.41 | [Ammo] | can I feed it ace options tables? |
| 11:52.51 | Nargiddley | mostly |
| 11:52.54 | Chosi | i need a cart fact sheet to convince my stupid guild members not to use gatherer :S |
| 11:52.57 | [Ammo] | what is missing? |
| 11:53.05 | [Ammo] | because I want to use this for oRA2 and BigWigs |
| 11:53.09 | Nargiddley | it doesnt make the tree on the left from it automatically yet |
| 11:53.14 | [Ammo] | aha |
| 11:53.14 | abbat_w | Oh |
| 11:53.22 | abbat_w | gui config for ora/bw ;) |
| 11:53.23 | [Ammo] | gogo code :) |
| 11:53.24 | abbat_w | nice nice |
| 11:53.34 | Nargiddley | but you can feed starting from anywhere, its easy to do that manually |
| 11:53.47 | Nargiddley | if you look at the bottom of baggins |
| 11:54.04 | Nargiddley | theres code feeding options for most pages, one page using the normal api |
| 11:54.09 | [Ammo] | nargiddley: http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/puddle.txt |
| 11:54.14 | [Ammo] | that was my original .txt design :p |
| 11:54.20 | Nargiddley | i can feed it my whole options table and it shows it all |
| 11:54.31 | Nargiddley | not layed out nicely yet |
| 11:54.36 | [Ammo] | aha |
| 11:55.31 | [Ammo] | this could greatly improve BigWigs and oRA2 config |
| 11:55.43 | [Ammo] | if you need help with anything I'm available this weekend for some coding |
| 11:55.50 | [Ammo] | and implementing it in alpha state into oRA2 and BW |
| 11:55.58 | Tornhoof | looks neat nargiddley |
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| 11:57.46 | CIA-17 | 03sylfi * r26952 10PlayerRating/ (PlayerRating.toc PlayerRatingCommunication.lua): |
| 11:57.46 | CIA-17 | PlayerRating: |
| 11:57.46 | CIA-17 | - Fixed a communication bug. |
| 11:57.55 | Nargiddley | this is it just fed the full Baggins options table |
| 11:57.56 | Nargiddley | http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2218/fulloptionsus2.jpg |
| 11:58.27 | [Ammo] | it should layer more properly I guess |
| 11:58.53 | Nargiddley | yeah, planning to group headings together. maybe have better ways for the raw api |
| 11:59.05 | [Ammo] | well is the baggins main config that big? |
| 11:59.12 | [Ammo] | I know bigwigs doesn't have that big a main config screen |
| 11:59.14 | [Ammo] | it's more layered |
| 11:59.17 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 11:59.26 | Nargiddley | never going to have all that at once |
| 11:59.32 | Nargiddley | just testing feeding atm |
| 11:59.50 | Nargiddley | that other ss with the items section is about the biggest |
| 12:00.04 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 12:00.41 | [Ammo] | well I'll check how Baggins feeds the options |
| 12:00.45 | [Ammo] | and try it in oRA / BW |
| 12:00.53 | Nargiddley | one of the main aco options things left is text with get = false |
| 12:02.25 | [Ammo] | ok the api looks easy enough |
| 12:03.15 | Nargiddley | it should be mostly stable api now, just adding things but cant be sure |
| 12:03.35 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:03.53 | Nargiddley | i think the only non-obvious thing from looking at that code is that the children function returns the title for the pane |
| 12:04.17 | Nargiddley | thats probably a bit awkward and might change |
| 12:05.47 | [Ammo] | can I just feed it the options |
| 12:05.53 | [Ammo] | and will it figure out what the title is etc by itself? |
| 12:06.14 | Nargiddley | not atm |
| 12:06.19 | [Ammo] | what I essentially want is to only register myself, and feed. and not have to add extra localizations etc |
| 12:06.46 | [Ammo] | so the heading is figured from the addon etc etc |
| 12:06.52 | [Ammo] | similar to deewdrop |
| 12:07.09 | Nargiddley | probably have to get it feeding to the tree to get that working |
| 12:07.22 | [Ammo] | also, your crumbline |
| 12:07.24 | [Ammo] | the Options -> blah |
| 12:07.29 | [Ammo] | can be automatic that way |
| 12:07.32 | [Ammo] | from the tree on the left |
| 12:07.35 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 12:07.56 | [Ammo] | but I'll fiddle with it some first |
| 12:08.05 | [Ammo] | can't load it in wow atm though, because I'm at work |
| 12:08.05 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 12:08.12 | Nargiddley | be good to get some feedback on using it :D |
| 12:08.38 | [Ammo] | my idea would be, "group" types in the tree |
| 12:08.41 | [Ammo] | the rest in the right pane |
| 12:08.44 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 12:08.54 | [Ammo] | but I'd have to see it in action first on oRA and/or BigWigs |
| 12:09.02 | Nargiddley | thats basicly what i was thinking, maybe with a limit on how deep |
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| 12:09.22 | Nargiddley | feeding to the right pane can already have that limit |
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| 12:09.39 | [Ammo] | well, no real need on that limit |
| 12:09.43 | Nargiddley | so you could feed all the root options not going into groups, or the whole tree like i'm doing |
| 12:09.48 | [Ammo] | it would make DeuceCommander imba too btw :) |
| 12:10.18 | [Ammo] | the best thing for it to be would be fully automatic |
| 12:10.27 | [Ammo] | one register a waterfall, 2 feed options table |
| 12:10.28 | [Ammo] | and be done |
| 12:10.33 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 12:10.35 | [Ammo] | let it figure out the tree and the panes |
| 12:10.51 | [Ammo] | root opions not in groups immediately on the right |
| 12:10.52 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 12:10.54 | Nargiddley | hoping to get it to that stage eventually |
| 12:11.19 | Nargiddley | got one more control i'm thinking of |
| 12:11.28 | Nargiddley | then clean up feeding options |
| 12:11.37 | Nargiddley | then feed the pane |
| 12:11.49 | Nargiddley | s/pane/tree/ |
| 12:12.50 | Nargiddley | next will be changing the scrollbar to horizontal on the right :/ |
| 12:13.09 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 12:13.18 | Nargiddley | since the new layout grows out to the right, used to just line them all straight down |
| 12:13.29 | [Ammo] | why not line them straight down |
| 12:13.37 | [Ammo] | (optionally 2 column max) |
| 12:13.53 | [Ammo] | horizontal scrolling isn't very friendly |
| 12:14.01 | Nargiddley | yer |
| 12:14.16 | [Ammo] | most people can scrooll with the wheel vertical |
| 12:14.16 | Nargiddley | trying to figure out the details of laying it out nicely |
| 12:14.18 | Wobin | hm |
| 12:14.27 | Wobin | Is there any way to identify the zone a unit is in? |
| 12:14.32 | Nargiddley | the mousewheel will scroll it left-right atm |
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| 12:14.41 | Nargiddley | which is weird, but works |
| 12:15.15 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 12:15.17 | Nargiddley | 2 column would be easy enough i think |
| 12:15.33 | Nargiddley | i was trying to figure out columns that adjusted as you sized the window |
| 12:15.48 | [Ammo] | making it slightly intelligent with regards to headers is a good idea too |
| 12:15.55 | Nargiddley | but controls arent always the same width, and i want to be able to have a few on the same line |
| 12:16.04 | [Ammo] | yeah hmm |
| 12:16.15 | Nargiddley | yeah, not breaking up controls from headers was going to be the next step for the layout |
| 12:16.38 | Nargiddley | motivation to make this was for baggins editing category and bag definitions |
| 12:16.54 | Nargiddley | currently using a tablet which isnt ideal |
| 12:17.30 | Nargiddley | and if done with dewdrops would end up with menus 5-6 levels deep :/ |
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| 12:20.10 | Nickenyfiken | haha the horror |
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| 12:39.09 | [Ammo] | Nargiddley: after checking a bit, I think one column should be enough for most configs |
| 12:39.19 | [Ammo] | it should fit enough info |
| 12:40.14 | Nargiddley | yeah, i think 2 columns would be enough for near anything |
| 12:40.21 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:40.37 | Nargiddley | that will be alot easier than when i was thinking arbitraty number |
| 12:41.18 | Nargiddley | i'll work on that tomorrow, sleep now :D |
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| 12:41.57 | Nargiddley | night |
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| 12:58.39 | kenlyric | sigh... wtb closetgnome patch to kill that message every time I log in. |
| 12:59.13 | kenlyric | it's double magically useless since it doesn't actually tell you who it is... |
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| 13:11.21 | Adirelle|work | erf |
| 13:13.02 | CIA-17 | 03archarodim * r26953 10Decursive/DCR_init.lua: |
| 13:13.03 | CIA-17 | Decursive: |
| 13:13.03 | CIA-17 | - Fix a Korean localization problem (Paladin CLEANS and Shaman PURGE have the same name in Korean locals) A specific exception for SHAMANS has been added... |
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| 13:16.37 | _neuron_ | ilifin, pong |
| 13:17.21 | ilifin | now I forgot what I was goign to ask you for |
| 13:17.27 | ilifin | and then I remembered after opening my questlog |
| 13:18.02 | xyu | good evening (morning) |
| 13:18.08 | _neuron_ | hehe |
| 13:18.08 | ilifin | no chance of hooking more into the blizzard questlog pane and make it dualscreen? I had this habit of hitting L to check quest, not click the minion :p |
| 13:18.18 | _neuron_ | nope, I hate xml like the plague :P |
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| 13:18.32 | ilifin | Q_Q |
| 13:18.44 | _neuron_ | I tried doing it a bit, but there's just no way of implementing it without 4000 lines of xml |
| 13:18.52 | ilifin | ok another question then |
| 13:19.11 | ilifin | possible to make the width modular based on how long the quest objective text and whatever is |
| 13:19.18 | ilifin | so that it doesn't wrap and look weird :x |
| 13:19.34 | _neuron_ | give me a screenshot of it wrapping wrong |
| 13:19.51 | _neuron_ | it's supposed to wrap right, but it's somewhat tricky :P |
| 13:19.57 | ilifin | not wrapping wrong, it looks weird .p |
| 13:20.32 | xyu | hey guys, is there a "rule of thumb" when deciding how much memory to allocate for addons? |
| 13:20.35 | ilifin | considering the quest objectives are indented by 2 spaces or so, the wrap isn't indented |
| 13:20.43 | ilifin | _neuron_ - http://imagesocket.com/view/ScreenShot_020207_14194601f.jpeg |
| 13:20.50 | _neuron_ | oh yeah, I know what you mean |
| 13:21.16 | _neuron_ | yes, it's on the todo, but it's quite far down, because atm the quest objectives are part of the quest button, so I can't indent it easily (without also indenting the quest name etc) |
| 13:21.56 | _neuron_ | just alt click on it and it'll go away :P |
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| 13:23.14 | Adirelle|work | xyu: dunno, I put almost twice the amount allocated at end of warming up |
| 13:23.31 | xyu | kk |
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| 13:23.46 | Pneumatus | 0 ftw |
| 13:24.01 | _neuron_ | ilifin, another thing is, even if it's all indented it'll wrap and look bad |
| 13:24.03 | _neuron_ | cuz it's so long |
| 13:24.29 | xyu | asdf |
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| 13:25.36 | CIA-17 | UnitActionBars: |
| 13:25.37 | CIA-17 | - Performance issue. Major lag when displaying buttons again. TimerEvent was called for all buttons instead of just the visible ones when they were shown. |
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| 13:33.15 | Trancer | hmm [Ammo] first time I loaded necromicon2, little bug |
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| 13:33.41 | Trancer | Modules\Summon.lua:77: ')'expected to close '(' at line 76 near 'summontarget' |
| 13:33.44 | Trancer | *lets find* |
| 13:34.48 | Trancer | yeps, lacking ) |
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| 13:35.02 | _neuron_ | this is what he gets for drycoding everything :P |
| 13:35.08 | Trancer | ;p |
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| 13:35.43 | Trancer | hmm.. bunch of more bugs :S |
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| 13:36.30 | restored | anyone able to get GemList to work ? I managed to fix the 3 first errors that popup but im stuck on the forth. |
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| 13:36.42 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26955 10nQuestLog/ (events.lua options.lua): nQuestLog : Clean database on load |
| 13:37.18 | Adirelle|work | btw, I noticed some weirdness with RegisterDefaults |
| 13:39.07 | CIA-17 | 03sbu * r26956 10GemList/localization.lua: |
| 13:39.07 | CIA-17 | GemList: |
| 13:39.07 | CIA-17 | - added missing "," |
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| 13:40.58 | Trancer | some weird bug in the summon module, wrong format (got nil) and the minion module is teh borked I think |
| 13:41.15 | Trancer | and reenabling modules |
| 13:41.18 | Trancer | o_O |
| 13:42.01 | Trancer | lol [Ammo], you work for Muze?! |
| 13:50.13 | restored | sbu: it still crashes when I open the Tradetab |
| 13:51.34 | [Ammo] | Trancer: you know muze? |
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| 13:53.10 | [Ammo] | Trancer: and yes I work there, actually own part of the company |
| 13:53.22 | _neuron_ | anyone know totalpackage? Think he'll bite my head off if I add 8 bytes to a toc file of his? |
| 13:53.48 | sbu | restored: yep, i know... :/ |
| 13:54.02 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r26957 10Necronomicon2/Modules/Summon.lua: Necronomicon2: fix missing ), probably more drycode still broken though |
| 13:54.02 | sbu | but localization error prevented it from loading :o |
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| 13:55.36 | Adirelle|work | [Ammo]: buy a luac :D |
| 13:55.40 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 13:55.50 | _neuron_ | that's been driving me nuts for the last month or so |
| 13:55.59 | [Ammo] | when I think of something I slap it down in the files |
| 13:56.03 | [Ammo] | during work breaks |
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| 13:56.18 | [Ammo] | then when I'm home I load it in wow and fix the errors |
| 13:57.09 | Adirelle|work | [Ammo]: luac win32 bin is around 192ko and allows to easily fix parse errors |
| 13:57.24 | [Ammo] | adirelle: but parse errors are the least of my problems :) |
| 13:57.36 | Adirelle|work | often |
| 13:57.38 | [Ammo] | and yes I have the lua bins |
| 13:57.48 | [Ammo] | just don't do anything with em |
| 13:58.04 | Adirelle|work | but fixing them with luac is far more faster than with wow |
| 13:58.12 | [Ammo] | I use wow for them |
| 13:58.19 | [Ammo] | but that's me ) |
| 13:58.35 | Adirelle|work | I'm just sad I didn't found a way to create a UltraEdit that works fine with luac -p |
| 13:58.48 | Adirelle|work | s/that/custom tool that/ |
| 13:59.13 | Adirelle|work | luac -p outputs to stderr, which is discarde by Ultraedit :( |
| 13:59.21 | Adirelle|work | s/e by/ed by/ |
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| 14:00.56 | kagaro | morning |
| 14:01.00 | Adirelle|work | hi |
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| 14:06.15 | Trancer | [Ammo]: yeah, you know mjrider aswell then ;) |
| 14:06.22 | Trancer | I've worked with ariadne for a while |
| 14:07.02 | [Ammo] | ah :) |
| 14:07.10 | Pneumatus | does anyone know if mob names are localized, i mean is Golemagg called Golemagg in other languages? |
| 14:07.11 | [Ammo] | see my privmsgs to you :) |
| 14:07.12 | ilifin | ZealotOnAStick - the cache thing doesn't work when people run out of range, also there is no animation of the player in the frame (voyeur) |
| 14:07.20 | [Ammo] | I figured out via ghosts of google past p |
| 14:07.46 | [Ammo] | mjrider usually sits across the table from me :) |
| 14:07.53 | Trancer | hehe :) |
| 14:08.00 | Trancer | yep, that's the link :) |
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| 14:08.34 | Adirelle|work | Pneumatus: golemagg is golemagg, but the thing that follow maybe localized |
| 14:08.53 | Trancer | small world :) |
| 14:09.02 | Adirelle|work | Pneumatus: Thingy the Destroyed => "Thingy le déstructeur" in french |
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| 14:09.30 | Pneumatus | hold that thought, i may have just discovered Babble-Boss as a solution :) |
| 14:09.36 | Adirelle|work | And well, if the name have some sense, it can be localized as well : "Sunscale" => "Solécaille" in french |
| 14:10.14 | Pneumatus | well i'm writing an addon with a datafile containing boss names and zones, Babble-Boss and Babble-Zone appear to have all the entries i need :) |
| 14:10.42 | [Ammo] | they should |
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| 14:10.58 | [Ammo] | if they don't they usually get added quite quickly due to cartographer instancenotes and bigwigs :) |
| 14:11.30 | Pneumatus | well, i'm just tidying up my first ever Ace2d addon, basically taking the data from wow-loot.com |
| 14:11.35 | Pneumatus | and presenting it to raiders |
| 14:12.23 | Adirelle|work | looks like cartographer-instanceloot |
| 14:12.31 | [Ammo] | carto instance loot has that info already |
| 14:12.35 | [Ammo] | so your work is obsolete :p |
| 14:12.44 | Pneumatus | BUT it doesnt have class ratings |
| 14:12.54 | Pneumatus | for a specific item |
| 14:13.01 | [Ammo] | class ratings are highly overrated :) |
| 14:13.14 | ilifin | badumm-psh |
| 14:13.15 | [Ammo] | if you can't decide if an item is good for your class you should not be playing that class :) |
| 14:13.32 | Pneumatus | while i agree, they are good as a guage |
| 14:14.46 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r26959 10Necronomicon2/Modules/Summon.lua: Necronomicon2: drycode more summon goodness |
| 14:14.54 | Pneumatus | its also good when people are too short-sighted to see what other options are available for all classes |
| 14:15.19 | ilifin | during those moments I usually have a mallet called the banhammer ready |
| 14:15.51 | [Ammo] | Pneumatus: but that's what websites are for |
| 14:16.39 | Pneumatus | yeh, but when its time to make a dkp roll you dont want half the raid dissapearing off to wow-loot.com or otherwise to check items :) |
| 14:17.19 | [Ammo] | that's why we have class restrictions on items |
| 14:17.23 | [Ammo] | in our raids |
| 14:17.32 | [Ammo] | and they might differ from what blizz intended :p |
| 14:17.37 | Pneumatus | you have a pre-defined list of the class restrictions? |
| 14:17.40 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:17.51 | [Ammo] | and officers decide on the fly if need be |
| 14:17.53 | Pneumatus | ok, well we use wow-loot as a guide which basically gives our class restrictions |
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| 14:18.14 | Pneumatus | so in essence its the same thing |
| 14:18.14 | [Ammo] | we have a prio system like: warrior -> paladin/hunter -> rest |
| 14:18.16 | hugo546 | hi |
| 14:18.28 | hugo546 | anyone know how to fix this > Error: Cannot find a library instance of Babble-Spell-2.2.AddOn: FuBar_WindFuryFu |
| 14:18.38 | [Ammo] | if no warrior has the minbid or doesn't want to bid, bidding is opened for paladins and hunters |
| 14:18.43 | [Ammo] | after that it's opened for everyone |
| 14:19.17 | [Ammo] | hugo546: looks like you don't have the babble-spell-2.2 lib |
| 14:19.20 | [Ammo] | redownload windfuryfu |
| 14:19.21 | Tain | I still prefer open. If someone is able to equip something, I'm all for them being allowed to bid for it. |
| 14:19.30 | Pneumatus | we do the same, say Hunter/Rogue has 5stars and DPS Warr/DPS Pala has 4 stars, if all hunters and rogues pass then the next classes can bid |
| 14:19.31 | [Ammo] | Tain: we had that in the beginning |
| 14:19.31 | hugo546 | i tried |
| 14:19.40 | [Ammo] | until a paladin picked up Vis'Kag the Bloodletter |
| 14:19.41 | Tain | I'm not saying it is better. But I personally prefer it. |
| 14:19.46 | hugo546 | FuBar_WindFuryFu\Libs\Babble-Spell-2.2\Babble-Spell-2.2.lua\Babble-Spell-2.0.lua" |
| 14:19.48 | [Ammo] | needless to say |
| 14:19.50 | hugo546 | it's there |
| 14:19.56 | [Ammo] | 2.0 is not 2.2 |
| 14:19.58 | Pneumatus | problem with that is you get dkp hoarders that dont improve their gear for the sake of getting 1 item that isnt really great for them |
| 14:20.14 | hugo546 | then there is wrong lib version in the addon |
| 14:20.16 | [Ammo] | Tain: I'd prefer an open system too |
| 14:20.19 | Pneumatus | like every bloody Prot warrior saving dkp for asscandy |
| 14:20.24 | Tain | You have to deal with dkp hoarders a different way. |
| 14:20.33 | hugo546 | where can i get 2.2 ? :) |
| 14:20.44 | [Ammo] | we deal with dkp hoarding by a hard dkp cap |
| 14:20.47 | kenlyric | I think you should be forced to take a tier item you do not have rather than have it sharded. |
| 14:20.59 | [Ammo] | dkp earned above that cap is 33% of original |
| 14:21.09 | Tain | Of course Ammo in an open system you do hope that people are sensible enough to not take stuff that benefits other people far more than it ever would themselves. |
| 14:21.11 | [Ammo] | so you can hoard dkp all you want, but it's s l o w |
| 14:21.27 | [Ammo] | and others will gear up while you earn 1/3d of the dkp |
| 14:21.32 | hugo546 | why the addon have directory called 2.2 and inside is 2.0 file ? |
| 14:21.33 | Pneumatus | i still regret getting Iblis, i replaced it within 2 weeks :< |
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| 14:21.46 | [Ammo] | Tain: yeah, we tried the asking people to be sensible |
| 14:21.53 | [Ammo] | Tain: it failed, it caused fights |
| 14:21.56 | [Ammo] | so now there's rules |
| 14:22.13 | [Ammo] | the actuall restrictions are open for discussion at all time |
| 14:22.15 | Tain | Yeah well, I'm also a fan of pulling out the popcorn to watch people fly into a rage over loot. :) |
| 14:22.17 | Pneumatus | same with our guild |
| 14:22.20 | [Ammo] | and are corrected if reasonable :) |
| 14:22.35 | Pneumatus | exactly Ammo, if people have a major problem with a class priority it can be discussed |
| 14:22.38 | [Ammo] | it has saved us hours and hours of debate and problems when distributing loot |
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| 14:22.56 | Tain | There is *nothing* like watching a trainwreck of someone looting an item they don't need at all just to prevent someone they don't like from getting it. |
| 14:23.33 | kagaro|work | anyone here on dragonblight? |
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| 14:25.49 | Pneumatus | o noes, Primal Mooncloth has gone grey ;< |
| 14:25.54 | [Ammo] | Tain: I'll watch the movies from it happening to others rather than having to clean up the mess when it happens in my guild :) |
| 14:26.11 | Tain | Yeah I know better than to ever be a leader/officer again. |
| 14:26.30 | kenlyric | Tain: oh, I don't know. Watching that spell damage trinket from rag and that caster cloak from nef never once going to a mage or warlock is just priceless. |
| 14:26.35 | [Ammo] | currently have the GM character on my account |
| 14:26.40 | [Ammo] | but that says nothing in our guild |
| 14:26.49 | [Ammo] | since every officer has equal rights |
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| 14:27.51 | Tain | Of course I'm a subversive bastard too. When the "leaders" do absolutely stupid things I feel like I'm one of the only people who actually speaks up. |
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| 14:28.19 | xyu | its all about the royal family |
| 14:28.23 | Tain | Or did, that guild is gone and reformed with some of the same members, don't know how the new setup is shaping up yet as I've barely been able to play since TBC. |
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| 14:29.08 | Tain | Seriously though, when they decided that some people had too much DKP, through no fault of their own really, they weren't hoarding, just was a few people who weren't getting drops. |
| 14:29.13 | Maranatha | is there an interface in game for !bugrabber? |
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| 14:29.36 | Tain | So they decided the way to handle it was to subtract a static amount of DKP from every person. 5 points (or whatever it was) from everyone. |
| 14:29.43 | xyu | Does cartographer have POI for old lands? i'm not getting any. works fine for Outlands though ; ; |
| 14:29.53 | Tain | And that was explained to be the only fair way since every one got subtracted the same. |
| 14:30.55 | xyu | are there any alternatives to autobar? |
| 14:30.56 | weab | how does that fix anything then? |
| 14:31.41 | Tain | cart should have those for old lands, xyu. Cart was used in the old lands before tbc so it certainly should. |
| 14:31.56 | xyu | wonder why mine does not *cry* |
| 14:32.10 | Tain | It didn't fix anything, weab. And I couldn't make a single person understand why it was the worst possible way they could have gone about it. |
| 14:32.15 | xyu | outlands sure, all old lands: 0 |
| 14:32.29 | weab | have you tried disabling/enabling POI with the map open |
| 14:32.50 | vhaarr | Tain: Didn't fix anything, but didn't hurt anything either, so "worst possible way" I don't agree with. |
| 14:32.52 | xyu | yeah ; ; |
| 14:32.59 | weab | i was getting a weird thing where my poi weren't showing up until i did that |
| 14:33.02 | vhaarr | Tain: Since it would have *no impact whatsoever on anyone*, it can't be bad :P |
| 14:33.14 | weab | actually |
| 14:33.16 | xyu | i'll try again but i'm sure i did that |
| 14:33.17 | Tain | That triggered my last break. Well, that and being told that everyone was expected to attend 4 raids a week and mandatory offnight consumable gathering. |
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| 14:33.27 | weab | a static number hurts the people with few points more than people with lots of points |
| 14:33.34 | joh | Hello, is there any aced KoS list addon? |
| 14:33.37 | weab | like a flat tax |
| 14:33.41 | Tain | vhaarr: Of course it hurt things. Everyone doesn't accumulate dkp at the same rate. |
| 14:34.11 | Tain | So you unfairly remove a higher amount from people who were already lower, fairly, from less raid history. |
| 14:34.41 | vhaarr | ah, true |
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| 14:35.52 | Adirelle|work | what the point of mandatory attendance with dkp system ? |
| 14:35.56 | Tain | It's like saying you make 50k a year, you make 70k a year, but I'm taking 10k in taxes from both of you. That is fair. |
| 14:36.39 | Tain | Well, mandatory attendance is a way to try to ensure you always have a raid force ready. |
| 14:36.57 | Tain | If you have set raid nights and people are expected to be there, you plan around that. |
| 14:37.37 | Adirelle|work | yep, but well... seems a bit military |
| 14:37.37 | Tain | In theory. In reality it just makes WoW a part-time job that you pay to participate in. |
| 14:37.37 | weab | it's more like football. you don't just show up to a game when you feel like it |
| 14:37.37 | abbat_w | hmmm.. |
| 14:37.37 | weab | you need your whole team |
| 14:37.41 | abbat_w | still no new discord ;( |
| 14:38.11 | weab | although i don't actually do that for my guild either |
| 14:38.28 | kenlyric | yeah, you get paid for football. You don't don't get paid for WoW. |
| 14:38.43 | weab | maybe pro foot ball |
| 14:38.50 | Tain | You get paid in purplez! |
| 14:38.56 | weab | but how many people that play football get paid |
| 14:38.57 | Adirelle|work | in our guild we have more people that needed and used phpraid |
| 14:39.19 | Adirelle|work | so people could subscribe to raids depending on their availability |
| 14:39.22 | kenlyric | yeah, if it's not pro, you don't have any problem missing a game when something comes up :) |
| 14:39.42 | weab | you still make every effort to get to the game |
| 14:40.00 | weab | do you not? you don't just have a random assortment of people that happen to feel like showing up |
| 14:40.07 | Tain | Well the last guild was if you dropped below 75% raid attendance for the month you could be removed from the guild. |
| 14:40.10 | weab | you might have someone miss a game every now and then. |
| 14:40.31 | abbat_w | btw weab ;) you mod dismount me if i start cast for example. this is great feature. it is possible to dismount from fly mount? |
| 14:40.46 | weab | no |
| 14:40.46 | Tain | Or something. Maybe it was under 75% you don't gain DKP until you get above it. I dunno. |
| 14:40.54 | abbat_w | i understand it is not safe, but it's possible technically? |
| 14:40.58 | weab | oh. yeah |
| 14:41.02 | weab | but i'm not going to do it |
| 14:41.13 | abbat_w | i think i understand why ;) |
| 14:41.34 | weab | it dismounts you if you're on the ground on the flying mount |
| 14:41.46 | weab | it's just if you're flying that it doesn't dismount you |
| 14:42.10 | kenlyric | there's a case you don't really want an error in... ;) |
| 14:42.11 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26960 10cyCircled/cyCircled.toc: cyCircled: Correct X-Category. |
| 14:42.14 | kenlyric | AHHHHHH!!!!! |
| 14:42.35 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r26961 10RS_ClassColors/ (Libs/ RS_ClassColors.toc): RS_ClassColors: updated the externals, now this addon doesnt have complete folder of babble-2.0 and ace-2.0 in it |
| 14:42.36 | kenlyric | *splat* |
| 14:42.39 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro 07Talismonger-3.0 * r26962 10kagaro/Talismonger-3.0.lua: Talismonger-3.0: fixed a typo |
| 14:43.23 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26963 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.toc: SpyGnome: Correct X-Category. |
| 14:44.14 | xyu | i really want to fix my topscorefu :( it wont' record damage if i uncheck "filter monsters" if i check filter monsters it records everything including monsters o_O |
| 14:44.28 | weab | hm |
| 14:44.30 | xyu | which is a bummer because i just had a nice fireball crit on a 70 warrior yesterday :P |
| 14:44.32 | Adirelle|work | weab, I regulary think of a new feature for automaton, and I forget it as often :/ |
| 14:44.47 | weab | i didn't know rs_classcolors was in the svn |
| 14:44.50 | kagaro|work | rofl forgot to switch branches |
| 14:44.58 | kenlyric | is that what filter monsters does? |
| 14:45.00 | weab | Adirelle|work: that happens to me occasionally |
| 14:45.16 | kenlyric | I just wish it would track wand damage. |
| 14:45.31 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26964 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism: refactored soem code lists |
| 14:45.43 | xyu | yeah i thought about that too |
| 14:45.44 | kenlyric | I've pushed 200dps with my wand, and I'm getting some very fun crits. |
| 14:45.50 | xyu | but i alwasy get my damge broken by like vulnerable mobs |
| 14:45.51 | Adirelle|work | that's related to hunter... oh yes : blocking autoswitch between melee/ranged |
| 14:45.58 | xyu | and i dont want it to track that crap, just players |
| 14:46.00 | Tain | In my day we didn't have wand auto-fire! |
| 14:46.07 | xyu | how do i know what my crit is if i have some 15k fireball on there |
| 14:46.19 | Mikma | lol, RS_ClassColors STILL has that stupid bug in it :D if i paste item into chat my name ain't colored |
| 14:46.36 | abbat_w | Mikma ;) |
| 14:46.38 | kenlyric | 112dps +25% wand talent +15% shadowform + 15% shadow vuln = HOT! |
| 14:46.41 | xyu | works for me. |
| 14:46.49 | xyu | once i /who myself :D |
| 14:47.01 | xyu | i use wand talent too |
| 14:47.02 | xyu | on my priest. |
| 14:47.11 | xyu | for spirit tap efficiency mostly |
| 14:47.20 | kenlyric | a lot more useful than the other t1 talent for a levelling priest. |
| 14:47.22 | xyu | since i'm still leveling up |
| 14:47.28 | xyu | yep yep |
| 14:47.45 | Mikma | xyu: well i did that and did paste an item with /say ... my name wasn't colored |
| 14:47.46 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26965 10Talismonger-3.0/Talismonger-3.0/Talismonger-3.0.lua: Talismonger-3.0: fixed a typo |
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| 14:48.03 | kenlyric | 69 woot! 740k to go. |
| 14:48.03 | xyu | you broke it! |
| 14:48.05 | xyu | dunno. :/ |
| 14:48.16 | xyu | i break everything so its lucky mine works really |
| 14:48.23 | Mikma | it has been like that for a long time |
| 14:48.24 | xyu | half my addons work 50% of the time. |
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| 14:48.41 | xyu | <- user error though. |
| 14:48.45 | xyu | i just break stuff |
| 14:49.20 | Adirelle|work | xyu: didn't you tried Cartographer_Quests ? |
| 14:49.56 | xyu | that works fine for me actually ^^ |
| 14:50.00 | xyu | i even got sharing to work. |
| 14:50.02 | xyu | Roxor! |
| 14:50.08 | xyu | i can't update carto though |
| 14:50.13 | xyu | if i do i lose all my quests |
| 14:50.14 | xyu | wahhh |
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| 14:52.18 | xyu | i really want to get POI working though for azeroth lands. i'm leveling a noob paladin ^^ |
| 14:52.33 | kebinusan | Hmm, I asked this earlier and forgot to look if there was a response, is there a mod that will track potions and transmutes made between alchemy discovires to try and see if it is not completely random |
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| 14:54.02 | Adirelle|work | xyu : you can't update carto or just carto quests ? |
| 14:54.08 | xyu | carto |
| 14:54.12 | xyu | i didn't touch carto quests |
| 14:54.28 | Josh_Borke | xyu: why? did the data storage format change between your revision and the current? |
| 14:55.01 | xyu | dunno o_O i dont know anything about that stuff. i just went to wau and updated . logged in and quests were gone. luckily i always back up my dir |
| 14:55.04 | xyu | so i could restore it. |
| 14:55.08 | xyu | i'm going to try updating again right now |
| 14:55.11 | xyu | i'll tell you how it goes |
| 14:55.41 | xyu | i tried svn but i broke more things than i updated ^_^ |
| 14:55.50 | Josh_Borke | i just download from files.wowace.com :-P |
| 14:56.19 | Adirelle|work | xyu: can you tell what's your quest rev ? |
| 14:56.27 | Mikma | ~borked |
| 14:56.31 | purl | somebody said borked was to have totally ****ed something up. Usually by doing something stupid. Specifically used to describe technology that is broken. The word is in reference to Robert Bork, a nominee to the Supreme Court who, despite being very qualified was not appointed to the court due to partisan reasons. |
| 14:56.33 | Grine | so I have a rquest, I need a mod that will remove the cooldown of my hearthstone |
| 14:56.41 | xyu | changelog-r25241.txt |
| 14:56.44 | Josh_Borke | aw, they changed it mikma :-P |
| 14:56.48 | xyu | (the working one) |
| 14:57.00 | Mikma | yeah seems like it |
| 14:57.20 | Stephmw | Grine: you may as well ask for the "Broken I.W.I.N button" to be fixed |
| 14:57.40 | abbat_w | ahah ;) |
| 14:57.41 | Grine | Stephmw, no shit? ;) |
| 14:57.56 | Josh_Borke | Grine: zone into an instance |
| 14:57.57 | abbat_w | are iwin button drops in av in bc? :) |
| 14:58.21 | Stephmw | abbat_w: dunno in BC, but I've looted a few from alliance players in AV ;) |
| 14:58.53 | Adirelle|work | xyu: so you don't upgrade it ? |
| 14:59.00 | xyu | i am now ^^ |
| 14:59.26 | xyu | is there any way to import my quests if for some reason they don't load? |
| 14:59.56 | CIA-17 | 03mok * r26966 10GemList/GemList.lua: |
| 14:59.56 | CIA-17 | GemList: |
| 14:59.56 | CIA-17 | - fixed table.inserts |
| 15:00.08 | Adirelle|work | backup your SV before loading |
| 15:00.26 | Adirelle|work | normally, it should upgrading from the old format |
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| 15:02.03 | xyu | Cartographer_POI - Has no public versions - Skipping oops is this why i dont have poi's in old lands? we'll see! |
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| 15:05.05 | xyu | cool, quests saved ^_^ |
| 15:05.25 | xyu | still no poi's tho. i'll get that from the svn and give it a shot |
| 15:06.48 | snurre- | wah, only 1 shadowcloth away from making my last frozen shadoweave piece |
| 15:06.56 | xyu | ahahah wow waypoints are sexy. |
| 15:07.14 | xyu | someone was talking about adding that feature to pings on the map. that'd be so hot |
| 15:07.29 | xyu | a 3d arrow toward the ping |
| 15:07.48 | Adirelle|work | xyu: this is working ? :D* |
| 15:08.05 | xyu | yeah, all working except POI's ^^ |
| 15:08.07 | xyu | cool cool |
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| 15:10.24 | joh | Hello, is there any aced KoS list addon? |
| 15:11.03 | xyu | think so. someone told me "just get xxxx" but i forget what it was. ^^ so i'm useless |
| 15:11.14 | xyu | started w/ an O or a Q or something |
| 15:11.24 | xyu | some letter |
| 15:11.26 | joh | I see 3 options under files.wowace.com - Epeen, SharedKoS and VanasKoS - which is better? :P |
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| 15:11.51 | Teshnor | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/VanasKoS |
| 15:12.02 | Adirelle|work | SharedKoS is functional now |
| 15:12.02 | joh | There are no screenshots and/or no wiki pages for none of them :-/ |
| 15:12.04 | Adirelle|work | isn't* |
| 15:12.05 | Adirelle|work | damn |
| 15:12.08 | joh | Ah ok |
| 15:12.18 | joh | I'll get VanasKoS then :) |
| 15:12.21 | joh | Thanks |
| 15:12.31 | xyu | can it set your own faction for KoS as well? :) |
| 15:13.17 | Teshnor | xyu: Now why would you want to do that? |
| 15:13.21 | Teshnor | You can't kill em anyway |
| 15:13.27 | Teshnor | pointless |
| 15:13.37 | xyu | oh i have my ways ~~! |
| 15:13.42 | Teshnor | use some kind of player rating addon instead |
| 15:13.50 | weab | you can make sure you never help them! |
| 15:14.01 | Teshnor | sure, but KoS is for enemies |
| 15:14.20 | Teshnor | hrm... |
| 15:14.33 | joh | Btw, anyone got a problem with FuBar_agUF not working properly? |
| 15:14.39 | Teshnor | make sure to never try to bind an action to Alt+F4 hahaha |
| 15:14.41 | _neuron_ | joh, remove it :P, aguf has it's own now |
| 15:14.42 | _neuron_ | built in |
| 15:14.43 | CIA-17 | 03mok * r26967 10GemList/ (GemList.lua GemList.toc): |
| 15:14.43 | CIA-17 | GemList: |
| 15:14.43 | CIA-17 | - changed version to 0.4 |
| 15:14.52 | *** join/#wowace Jagobah (i=jago7777@70.157.124.35) |
| 15:15.03 | Teshnor | _neuron_: What do you mean? |
| 15:15.15 | Teshnor | one addon for KoS and player rating? |
| 15:15.34 | _neuron_ | Teshnor, yeah, so you have one addon that scans the area for combatlog events, so you know when either one is in the area |
| 15:15.59 | Teshnor | _neuron_: Suggest you go to http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Talk:Ideas_for_New_Mods and request it :) |
| 15:16.23 | joh | _neuron_: Ok thanks. |
| 15:16.26 | xyu | is that addon still around ? i had that back in the day |
| 15:16.28 | xyu | called "radar" |
| 15:16.40 | xyu | read combat logs and only registered opposite faction onto a list |
| 15:16.44 | xyu | targetable too |
| 15:16.45 | xyu | <3'd it |
| 15:17.17 | xyu | is there a new one? |
| 15:17.34 | Adirelle|work | well, sharedkos should to that (not clickable tho) |
| 15:17.36 | _neuron_ | xyu, VanasKoS does something like it |
| 15:17.53 | Adirelle|work | I think any real kos addon would |
| 15:18.10 | joh | Another question: I'm looking for a replacement for Sorren's Timers because there are newer DoTs that it doesn't show - f.example. Vampiric Touch. |
| 15:18.12 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26968 10nQuestLog/ (4 files in 2 dirs): nQuestLog : Alt+Rightclick in minion to show all zones |
| 15:18.31 | xyu | wahh i can't get POIs working. treid the svn files. nada :( |
| 15:18.41 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r26969 10FuBar_agufFu/core.lua: FuBar_agufFu: Errors with a message that agUF includes a FBP. |
| 15:18.50 | xyu | they work fine in outland still |
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| 15:20.23 | Adirelle|work | what do call POI ? |
| 15:20.47 | xyu | is there a way to move the quest progress text? like when i pick up a Prowler claw it'll say "Prolwer Claws: 1/7" in yellow |
| 15:20.50 | xyu | need to move that ; ; |
| 15:21.51 | _neuron_ | xyu, I need to as well, badly, let me know if you figure it out :P |
| 15:22.13 | _neuron_ | I have somehow managed to screw display up on one of my test characters, and I have no idea how and when I did it :P |
| 15:22.34 | joh | Does VanasKoS have a fubar plugin? |
| 15:22.47 | _neuron_ | nope, not that I know of anyway |
| 15:22.57 | _neuron_ | it does have /kos menu though |
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| 15:23.08 | joh | _neuron_: Ok thanks |
| 15:26.24 | CIA-17 | 03mok * r26970 10GemList/GemList.toc: |
| 15:26.24 | CIA-17 | GemList: |
| 15:26.24 | CIA-17 | - toc |
| 15:27.22 | joh | Hmm, when did the cooldown timers from bartender3 get removed? |
| 15:27.28 | _neuron_ | ages ago :P |
| 15:27.47 | joh | Why did they get removed? :( |
| 15:27.57 | _neuron_ | because it was broken and inefficient |
| 15:28.04 | _neuron_ | there are tons of mods around to do it better, that supports bartender3 |
| 15:28.05 | joh | Any replacement? |
| 15:28.07 | _neuron_ | omnicc for example |
| 15:28.11 | joh | Ah thanks |
| 15:28.31 | joh | It's not Aced though, is it? Atleast not in files |
| 15:28.41 | krka | must it be aced? |
| 15:28.56 | _neuron_ | no it's not ace, but it wouldn't be any better if it was ace either |
| 15:28.57 | joh | No, but it's better. |
| 15:29.13 | _neuron_ | ace does not magically mean mods gets better, it just means they use a pretty good library system |
| 15:29.17 | krka | are you just a fanboy or do you know that for a fact joh? |
| 15:29.24 | _neuron_ | omnicc is very basic, it wouldn't benefit at all from being ace |
| 15:29.33 | joh | Hehe ofc, ace addons tend to be faster and use less memory than ace. |
| 15:29.52 | joh | krka: I know the facts from a programmers view, not an addon view though. |
| 15:30.11 | joh | krka: I.e. I've never written a wow addon but I have written many computer programs :P |
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| 15:30.18 | krka | really? then i am even more surprised |
| 15:30.31 | krka | imagine a simple hello world addon, that just wrote hello world upon game start |
| 15:30.40 | krka | would that be bigger or smaller with ace? |
| 15:30.56 | joh | krka: If you use a good library for your software, and don't screw up completely, it will be better than i you used a bad library. |
| 15:31.01 | joh | krka: bigger ofcourse. |
| 15:31.08 | krka | there you go |
| 15:31.13 | _neuron_ | of course, but why assume people would use a bad library :P |
| 15:31.15 | Tain | The point is not everything needs a library. |
| 15:31.26 | krka | simple addons may NOT become better by using libraries |
| 15:31.30 | art3mis | because people still use vb on purpose neuron ;P |
| 15:31.31 | krka | in fact, they may be worse |
| 15:31.31 | Wobin | also, that a 'hello world' addon is fairly silly |
| 15:31.37 | _neuron_ | art3mis, true :P |
| 15:31.45 | Tain | When there is a benefit you use one. When there is no benefit, you only add unecessary complexitiy. |
| 15:31.47 | krka | Wobin: yes, but there quite a few addons that are very simple |
| 15:31.48 | joh | And there comes in my little knowledge of what's "simple" when it comes to WoW addons :P |
| 15:31.50 | Wobin | and pretty pointless as an example |
| 15:31.59 | kenlyric | nearly all mods have options. |
| 15:32.12 | Tain | Nah I store my options in the Lua. ;) |
| 15:32.19 | _neuron_ | art3mis is right though, people use VB on purpose, ie people are dumb as hell until proven otherwise :P |
| 15:32.32 | krka | for example, FAIAP wouldn't benefit anything at all from Ace |
| 15:32.40 | krka | and it's not even especially small |
| 15:32.41 | Tain | Well lets not make apples to bananas comparisons, neuron. |
| 15:32.57 | _neuron_ | not comparing lua to VB Tain, I'm comparing developers to developers ;) |
| 15:33.04 | Zicon | mmmm, bananas. |
| 15:33.28 | Tain | Yes, we have no bananas. |
| 15:33.38 | art3mis | you can have a well supported system, but that doesnt mean its a good one, c# and VB are excellent examples of it. |
| 15:33.49 | krka | there is no point in acing your addon, if you dont need any of the ace library functions |
| 15:33.56 | art3mis | nods krka |
| 15:34.06 | Tain | Unless you want to be one of the cool kids. |
| 15:34.13 | krka | exactly :) |
| 15:34.14 | Tain | Come on do it, everyone's doing it. |
| 15:34.15 | joh | _neuron_ makes a good point - and this is even more true when it comes to WoW addons (I think) that addon developers tend to be more stupid than regular software developers :P |
| 15:34.28 | art3mis | the only major advantage to use ace if you dont have to is it allows for expansion and grwoth by contributors |
| 15:34.28 | Tain | Not at all, joh. |
| 15:34.44 | krka | joh: it's more that addon programming has a lower entry threshold than regular programming |
| 15:34.45 | Tain | Some addon developers are less experienced, but the industry is chock full of stupid developers. |
| 15:34.53 | _neuron_ | I'd actually think it's the other way around joh, as the people making wow addons do so because they want to do it, not because it's their 9-5 job |
| 15:34.54 | krka | so more non-programmers get started with it |
| 15:34.55 | art3mis | however if its only you doing it and it wont be anything more than it is, don't bother |
| 15:34.57 | joh | krka: I guess yes. |
| 15:35.03 | kenlyric | like I said, if your mod has options that can be set, it can benefit from acing just for the profile system alone. At least, it adds a benefit for me :) |
| 15:35.04 | art3mis | exrta libs == extra overhead |
| 15:35.34 | krka | kenlyric: sure, but many addons dont have or even need options |
| 15:35.44 | krka | mostly those are gui-free-addons |
| 15:35.45 | _neuron_ | whoever can figure out what the yellow text that comes up when you finish a quest objective is called/where it's called from earns a box full of virtual cookies |
| 15:35.52 | kenlyric | I don't think I have one. |
| 15:36.37 | joh | Btw is Chronometer any good yet? |
| 15:36.43 | art3mis | always wass |
| 15:36.55 | Feldia | the only thing it messes up on in shadow weaving |
| 15:36.58 | art3mis | the only wierd thing about it is that it forgets sometimes that the mob died ;P |
| 15:37.06 | kenlyric | that's strange. For the first time in weeks, my Chat channels 1,2,and 3 didn't turn on when I logged in? |
| 15:37.20 | joh | Oh :P |
| 15:37.29 | joh | Define "sometimes" |
| 15:37.38 | art3mis | depends on the phase of the moon |
| 15:37.45 | kenlyric | it seems to do quite well on shadow weaving... just not on multiple mobs. |
| 15:37.54 | art3mis | its totally random when im fighting wether the thing will stay there when the mob dies |
| 15:37.58 | kenlyric | joh: he means every time. |
| 15:38.03 | art3mis | nope not ever |
| 15:38.05 | art3mis | every |
| 15:38.10 | _neuron_ | DoTimer does a very good job at this btw |
| 15:38.10 | joh | Oh ok, so Chronometer is the HoT/DoT timer to use or..? |
| 15:38.12 | art3mis | sometimes it works perfect |
| 15:38.18 | art3mis | yup |
| 15:38.27 | art3mis | has a much nicer display than dotimer |
| 15:38.28 | joh | _neuron_: Does it work with HoTs aswell? |
| 15:38.32 | _neuron_ | yes joh |
| 15:38.47 | _neuron_ | yeah it's not ace, doesn't use surfacelib textures etc, but it's damn accurate ;) |
| 15:38.50 | _neuron_ | and the ghost timer thing is <3 |
| 15:39.09 | Feldia | kenlyric: after shadow weaving is stacked to 5 chronometer stops tracking it |
| 15:39.09 | kenlyric | does it store its location in the SV? |
| 15:39.51 | _neuron_ | QuestFrameProgressPanel EUREKA :P |
| 15:39.53 | art3mis | welp im gonna go to work, lates kiddies |
| 15:45.00 | joh | Great, curse-gaming is down :( |
| 15:45.59 | _neuron_ | wowinterface.com :P |
| 15:45.59 | nevcairiel | mornin |
| 15:46.03 | _neuron_ | nevcairiel, your the/one of bartender3 author right? |
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| 15:46.20 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 15:46.37 | _neuron_ | had one of my pet's ability buttons go MIA on me, got a new rank last night and it works again now though |
| 15:46.57 | _neuron_ | bought intercept for my felguard, button was there, next time I started playing the button wasn't there (but /cast intercept worked) |
| 15:47.06 | _neuron_ | bought a new rank again and now it's back though ;) |
| 15:47.14 | nevcairiel | weird, i havent played any pet class for a long time |
| 15:47.37 | _neuron_ | that might actually be a blizzard bug actually, there was some problems with pet ability stuff a while ago |
| 15:47.56 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: i guess you still need transscripts of gruuls lair and karazhan eh? |
| 15:48.05 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: yeah please |
| 15:48.11 | joh | Anyone tried WUU (Wow UI Updater)? Is it any good? |
| 15:49.11 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: how would you prefer it? i /rl after a boss and copy the SV, then clear and start a fresh ? or all-in-one ? :) |
| 15:49.33 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: yeah, that's cool, or just click the transcriptor off and on between fights |
| 15:49.46 | [Ammo] | need to add the friendly buffs to transcriptor |
| 15:49.53 | [Ammo] | bigbadwolf gives you a buff |
| 15:49.57 | [Ammo] | and I had to guess the event |
| 15:49.58 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:50.05 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 15:50.06 | [Ammo] | blah gains Little Red Riding Hood |
| 15:50.08 | [Ammo] | or something |
| 15:50.13 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: what event was it, then? |
| 15:50.44 | nevcairiel | we killed most of kara yesterday, but somehow my transcript got fucked, will transcript the remaining bosses and gruul tomorrow |
| 15:50.52 | nevcairiel | wonder how far we get with gruul tho :D |
| 15:50.58 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: sounds excellent, just throw it up at the forum |
| 15:52.07 | _neuron_ | how does the event code work? If I registerevent() and triggerevent() does every addon parse the event, or just the ones that are registered to it? |
| 15:52.22 | _neuron_ | (curius from a performance standpoint) |
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| 15:52.46 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: no clue |
| 15:52.53 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: I guessed it :) |
| 15:52.58 | [Ammo] | it's in svn in BigBadWolf |
| 15:53.02 | vhaarr | _neuron_: The code is open source, read it. |
| 15:53.04 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: alright |
| 15:54.01 | _neuron_ | vhaarr, asking here is a much quicker way to get an answer :P |
| 15:54.02 | vhaarr | asking here consumes other peoples time, reading the code does not. |
| 15:54.17 | _neuron_ | well, that's one of the things an irc chan like this would be for in my opinion, saving time. |
| 15:54.27 | _neuron_ | and it does not consume other people's time, if your busy, you dont answer :P |
| 15:54.30 | [Ammo] | neuron: aceevent parses the event and distrubutes to registered addons |
| 15:54.34 | [Ammo] | but that's a guess |
| 15:54.41 | _neuron_ | and if someone knows the answer, it takes em 2 seconds to answer ;) |
| 15:55.01 | Josh_Borke | it only distributes to registered addons since that's the AceEvent design model (as far as I know anyway) |
| 15:55.04 | _neuron_ | [Ammo], yeah that's what I'm thinking, but I'm a performance geek so I dont want my events parsed by everything :P |
| 15:55.31 | Josh_Borke | events are only parsed by things that listen for those events |
| 15:55.56 | CIA-17 | 03pettigrow * r26971 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Babble-2.2: frFR Update |
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| 15:56.26 | CIA-17 | 03jayhawk * r26972 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/ (3 files): |
| 15:56.26 | CIA-17 | FuBar_SkillsPlusFu: |
| 15:56.26 | CIA-17 | - added menu item: Hide cooldown for |
| 15:56.26 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: Are you sure we want both CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS and CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_FRIENDLYPLAYER_BUFFS logged? |
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| 15:56.52 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: optionally I think |
| 15:57.13 | vhaarr | hrm |
| 15:57.19 | Famex | I cant get my questfu and moneyfu back in my bar, I can only see them as minimap icon, anybody who can help me with this? |
| 15:57.26 | [Ammo] | defaulted to off and ask people to log with those on for that fight |
| 15:57.36 | [Ammo] | because I think it's used it in |
| 15:57.37 | [Ammo] | but not sure |
| 15:57.41 | [Ammo] | until someone gives feedback |
| 15:58.09 | Maranatha | there a good resource on how to use all the functions in cartographer? |
| 15:58.26 | [Ammo] | I'd gues the wiki or the code marantaha |
| 15:58.46 | nevcairiel | is romoe and juliette still announcing the dmg cast? that was kinda spammy :) |
| 15:58.56 | [Ammo] | no |
| 15:58.58 | [Ammo] | funkeh removed that |
| 15:59.03 | [Ammo] | afaik |
| 15:59.05 | Maranatha | nah..looking for some easier reading for non-tech guildies |
| 15:59.06 | nevcairiel | good |
| 16:00.03 | [Ammo] | Maranatha: check the menu and make screenshots |
| 16:00.10 | [Ammo] | the menu is pretty selfexplanatory |
| 16:00.18 | Famex | any one who knows how to get your moneyfu icon back in your bar? I can only see it as minimap icon now |
| 16:00.33 | [Ammo] | rightclick it, and uncheck the minimap thing |
| 16:00.35 | [Ammo] | afaik |
| 16:00.38 | Maranatha | no im talking creating notes and sharing them via channels etc.. |
| 16:00.43 | shieldb | Famex, should just have to right click it and turn off "attach to minimap" |
| 16:00.47 | [Ammo] | Maranatha: the sharing is automatic |
| 16:00.49 | Maranatha | the menus are fine for basic use |
| 16:01.02 | [Ammo] | Maranatha: explanation on creating notes is on the frame |
| 16:01.05 | Maranatha | how does it know what the guild channel is? |
| 16:01.14 | CIA-17 | 03pettigrow * r26973 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua): Cartographer: frFR Update |
| 16:01.15 | [Ammo] | it's a CHAT_MSG_ADDON thing maranatha |
| 16:01.15 | shieldb | Maranatha, the built in guild addon channel |
| 16:01.17 | [Ammo] | all hidden from the user |
| 16:01.18 | Famex | i know, but then the minimap icon is gone and i still cant see it in my bar |
| 16:01.27 | [Ammo] | rightclick the bar and add it again? |
| 16:01.41 | [Ammo] | or delete your saved vars for moneyfu and start over again |
| 16:01.43 | [Ammo] | if it got broken |
| 16:02.25 | Maranatha | hmm several are using the package..I dont see their shared herbs/ores..etc |
| 16:02.32 | shieldb | Maranatha, there's a built in channel that everyone is automatically in for guild, party, raid, battleground - addons can just reference the built in channel without having to worry about how to get people joined to it |
| 16:02.43 | Maranatha | right understand that |
| 16:04.39 | Maranatha | ahh nm..its a broadcast..makes sense now |
| 16:04.39 | [Ammo] | that's because you need to get the NoteShare extension |
| 16:04.46 | [Ammo] | afaik |
| 16:04.50 | Maranatha | have all the extensions |
| 16:05.20 | [Ammo] | you can turn on notification then |
| 16:05.23 | [Ammo] | and see if you receive any |
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| 16:05.30 | [Ammo] | if they mine a node or grab a herb |
| 16:05.42 | Maranatha | yea I was thinking it was autobroadcasting like every hour or something |
| 16:06.09 | [Ammo] | no it sends when you mine/herb |
| 16:06.34 | [Ammo] | hmmm beer |
| 16:06.42 | [Ammo] | friday at the office is always a good time |
| 16:07.00 | shieldb | [Ammo], Beer? /jealous |
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| 16:08.18 | Famex | thanx Ammo, its solved now! |
| 16:08.24 | Teshnor | uhm |
| 16:08.31 | [Ammo] | Famex: euh? solved what? |
| 16:08.32 | Teshnor | why doesn't Windfury exist in Babble-Spell? |
| 16:08.49 | Famex | the questfu and moneyfu thing |
| 16:08.53 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
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| 16:10.16 | Famex | got still another thing, when i log in my fontsize is always 12, seems it doesnt save it |
| 16:10.30 | [Ammo] | complain with the author :) |
| 16:10.46 | CIA-17 | 03nebelmond * r26974 10OptiTaunt/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:10.46 | CIA-17 | OptiTaunt: initial commit |
| 16:10.46 | CIA-17 | - Announces resisted taunts to you and your party or raid. |
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| 16:11.51 | Teshnor | hmm this is stupid :/ |
| 16:11.58 | Teshnor | windfury weapon and windfury totem exists |
| 16:12.13 | Teshnor | but not only windfury (that's what it's called when it's imbued on the weapon) |
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| 16:14.54 | CIA-17 | 03anea * r26975 10SpamSentry/ (SpamSentry.toc spamsentry.toc): |
| 16:14.54 | CIA-17 | SpamSentry: |
| 16:14.54 | CIA-17 | - Renamed spamsentry.toc to SpamSentry.toc for case-sensitive systems |
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| 16:18.26 | CIA-17 | 03anea * r26976 10SpamSentry/ (SpamSentry.toc core.lua): |
| 16:18.26 | CIA-17 | SpamSentry: |
| 16:18.26 | CIA-17 | - Fixed minor issue with reporting, removed some debugcode |
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| 16:19.05 | Pneumatus | hmm, i wonder if OptiTaunt works on growl |
| 16:19.12 | Pneumatus | pet growl rather than druid growl |
| 16:19.30 | nevcairiel | pet growl is not really a taunt tho :) |
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| 16:20.08 | Thrae | Pet Growl == Druid Growl, both are "snap-to" taunts which do not affect threat level |
| 16:20.32 | nevcairiel | druid growl is a real taunt |
| 16:20.35 | nevcairiel | like warrior |
| 16:21.27 | Thrae | "Snap-to" taunts make the victim attack the user for a couple of seconds, which in turn supposedly increases threat because the monster's attention is on the threat generator. |
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| 16:22.01 | CIA-17 | 03archarodim * r26977 10Decursive/ (18 files): |
| 16:22.01 | CIA-17 | Decursive: |
| 16:22.01 | CIA-17 | - Added Revision information to Dcr.version, the revision should be the one of the latest changed file... |
| 16:22.16 | Josh_Borke | seriously, we put a mod named Decursive in teh SVN? |
| 16:22.28 | Josh_Borke | I guess DeTox wasn't what people wanted... |
| 16:22.28 | Thrae | I made that up because I don't know what I'm talking about, but it -sounds- plausible! |
| 16:22.40 | Josh_Borke | Thrae never knows what he's talking about. |
| 16:22.47 | nevcairiel | pet growl is not "snap-to" then |
| 16:22.51 | nevcairiel | it only affects thread level |
| 16:22.58 | joh | Question: Does OneBag & friends still require OneCore? |
| 16:23.17 | Iceroth | ehm.. why is ora spamming me about group changes and why can't i disable it >.< |
| 16:23.20 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Confusing then that it uses the same animation as Druid Growl |
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| 16:23.26 | Josh_Borke | joh: it's embedded |
| 16:23.38 | Thrae | Josh_Borke: This from the author of "WhoMod"! That addon keeps crashing my system =/ |
| 16:24.04 | Josh_Borke | Thrae: sorry, but I don't write so gud |
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| 16:24.29 | [Ammo] | Josh_Borke: it's the original decursive |
| 16:24.43 | [Ammo] | the author changed it to use ace2 and asked if he could place it on the svn |
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| 16:24.52 | Thrae | I use SmartDebuff myself for curing. |
| 16:25.02 | Josh_Borke | i just don't cure anything myself |
| 16:25.04 | [Ammo] | I use agUF debuff highlighting and clickcasting |
| 16:25.13 | [Ammo] | no use for a specific addon |
| 16:25.34 | Josh_Borke | yea, especially since the only reason I used Decursive in the first place was I didn't f eel like actually working during a raid |
| 16:25.46 | CIA-17 | 03archarodim * r26978 10Decursive/Decursive.lua: |
| 16:25.46 | CIA-17 | Decursive: |
| 16:25.46 | CIA-17 | - removed useless thing in Decursive.lua |
| 16:26.05 | CIA-17 | 03nebelmond * r26979 10OptiTaunt/: |
| 16:26.05 | CIA-17 | OptiTaunt: |
| 16:26.05 | CIA-17 | - Changed SVN properties |
| 16:26.20 | Thrae | Eh, I like separate frames I right-click to cure poison and left-click to cure curse, instead of some weird key/click combination. |
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| 16:26.27 | Josh_Borke | but that's 2 different clicks! |
| 16:26.43 | Josh_Borke | mine is Ctrl-left for dispel magic, shift-right for abolish disease |
| 16:26.47 | Josh_Borke | on my paladin it's just ctrl-left |
| 16:26.56 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26980 10nQuestLog/ (core.lua modules/SmartVisibility.lua): nQuestLog : Cleanups and slightly better zone folding/unfolding |
| 16:27.13 | Thrae | Yeah, I could probably wean away from using SmartDebuff, but it'll take time. |
| 16:27.36 | Josh_Borke | besides, since i'm already hovering over the frames for healing, might as well keep it all in the family |
| 16:27.46 | Josh_Borke | then again, I usually use WhoMod which does everything for me |
| 16:28.21 | Josh_Borke | Thrae: beta version pages me whenever I get a tell so I can be sure to not look like a bot :-D |
| 16:28.24 | Thrae | WhoMod keeps trying to send all my gold to "Joshborke" |
| 16:28.59 | Thrae | Which doesn't make any sense, since I know your character's name is "Sexynelfgurl" |
| 16:29.19 | joh | Haha |
| 16:31.53 | Josh_Borke | no, no, it's a gnome |
| 16:32.29 | Josh_Borke | SitNSpin |
| 16:32.43 | Josh_Borke | ok, class time, ciao |
| 16:34.31 | CIA-17 | 03nebelmond * r26981 10OptiTaunt/OptiTaunt.toc: |
| 16:34.31 | CIA-17 | OptiTaunt: |
| 16:34.32 | CIA-17 | - Changed TOC for proper handling of externals |
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| 16:42.15 | CIA-17 | 03nebelmond * r26982 10OptiTaunt/OptiTaunt.lua: |
| 16:42.15 | CIA-17 | OptiTaunt: |
| 16:42.15 | CIA-17 | - Fixed error in line 159 |
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| 16:48.28 | xyu | can carto import notes from metamap? |
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| 16:49.07 | Bruners | ckknight: there? |
| 16:51.53 | Pneumatus | OptiTaunt doesnt have FubarPlugin in the toc o.O |
| 17:01.00 | Feldia | hurm |
| 17:01.16 | Feldia | all of my food and stuff is displaying as "consumables" in baggins now |
| 17:01.22 | Feldia | no longer is it grouped as "food" |
| 17:01.23 | Feldia | weak! |
| 17:03.49 | [Ammo] | complaining 'loudly' like that will not result in faster responses |
| 17:05.43 | vhaarr | "weak"? |
| 17:06.25 | Thrae | Everyone knows you don't "consume" food. |
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| 17:06.39 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 17:06.46 | vhaarr | And the problem is probably the PT2-PT3 transition, so the set names have changed. |
| 17:06.59 | Feldia | yea that's what I figured vharr |
| 17:07.29 | chutwig_ | consumptory |
| 17:08.26 | [Ammo] | it's "Gobblables" |
| 17:08.32 | [Ammo] | since you gobble down food |
| 17:08.41 | Feldia | or you know |
| 17:08.45 | Feldia | just "food" as it was previously |
| 17:08.46 | Feldia | smartass |
| 17:09.13 | [Ammo] | I see someone hasn't had their coffee today :) |
| 17:09.21 | chutwig|work | i would suggest an entirely new neutral appellation |
| 17:09.23 | chutwig|work | let us settle on COMESTIBLES |
| 17:09.30 | [Ammo] | digestibles |
| 17:09.41 | vhaarr | edibles |
| 17:09.43 | [Ammo] | or just mcpastrey-look-a-like |
| 17:10.03 | vhaarr | "What you sometimes get at McDonaldss." |
| 17:10.06 | vhaarr | -s |
| 17:10.12 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 17:10.13 | [Ammo] | nice |
| 17:10.15 | [Ammo] | make it so |
| 17:10.21 | [Ammo] | 'public svn ftw' |
| 17:10.32 | snurre- | used-to-be-living-thing-now-about-to-enter-MAH-BELLEH! |
| 17:10.39 | Thrae | Separate Food out into "Meat" and "Death", per the Atkins labeling. |
| 17:10.47 | vhaarr | haha |
| 17:10.50 | [Ammo] | hahaha |
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| 17:15.59 | CIA-17 | 03nebelmond * r26983 10OptiTaunt/ (OptiTaunt.lua readme.txt): |
| 17:15.59 | CIA-17 | OptiTaunt: |
| 17:15.59 | CIA-17 | - added some info to readme.txt |
| 17:15.59 | CIA-17 | - really, really eliminated all errors which prevented this addon from loading. sorry for the revision-spam - it should not happen again |
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| 17:17.29 | doktoreas | hi to all |
| 17:17.45 | doktoreas | anyone can suggest me an addon to use as emergency bar^ |
| 17:18.36 | Thrae | doktoreas: What do you want it to do? |
| 17:18.51 | doktoreas | hi Thrae |
| 17:19.09 | doktoreas | i am using Grid to monitor my grp/raid |
| 17:19.17 | doktoreas | but i can't get info about pet |
| 17:19.26 | doktoreas | i thought about using an emergency bar for it |
| 17:19.53 | Thrae | Well, if you have an emergency frame which sorts by who needs healing the most, that frame cannot be clickable. |
| 17:20.44 | doktoreas | but if i click it it become target right? |
| 17:21.15 | doktoreas | as i do with grid |
| 17:21.22 | [Ammo] | no |
| 17:21.29 | [Ammo] | you can not sort and click |
| 17:21.31 | [Ammo] | you can sort |
| 17:21.38 | [Ammo] | or you can have unsorted and click |
| 17:22.47 | Thrae | doktoreas: The addon cannot move clickable frames automatically in combat. Only the user can. So sorting is out of the question, unless visually on unclickable frames. |
| 17:24.42 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r26984 10BulkMail/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:24.43 | CIA-17 | BulkMail: |
| 17:24.43 | CIA-17 | -Merge my branch into trunk, removing the Ace+AceGUI dependency. |
| 17:24.43 | CIA-17 | -Also bump the TOC version. |
| 17:25.36 | joh | Any nice addon for sorting the items in your bank/bag? |
| 17:25.41 | Kemayo | MrPlow. |
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| 17:25.52 | joh | Thanks |
| 17:26.47 | doktoreas | Thrae: thx for your explaination |
| 17:27.02 | doktoreas | wich approach should i use for this problem? |
| 17:28.18 | Thrae | doktoreas: You just need raid frames what show Party Pets. ag_UnitFrames might be able to do that, and you can tell ag_UnitFrames to hide all but PartyPets. |
| 17:28.32 | [Ammo] | thrae: that's not enough for a raid |
| 17:28.33 | Thrae | s/Party/Raid/ |
| 17:28.45 | Thrae | s/PartyPets/RaidPets/ |
| 17:28.54 | [Ammo] | or you could make a GridPets module |
| 17:28.58 | [Ammo] | that shows all pets in the raid |
| 17:29.11 | [Ammo] | Grid is fully modular and supports that kind of thing |
| 17:29.18 | Bruners | why do you want to view pets in raid? |
| 17:29.21 | doktoreas | can i write it in xml? |
| 17:29.29 | [Ammo] | no you have to code it in lua |
| 17:29.34 | [Ammo] | Grid uses roster-2.1 |
| 17:29.39 | [Ammo] | so it should not be that hard |
| 17:29.43 | [Ammo] | but I'm not sure |
| 17:29.50 | chutwig|work | Bruners: so that you can laugh at hunters instantly when they die for the 15th time |
| 17:29.53 | [Ammo] | it's been a while since I looked at grid |
| 17:30.25 | doktoreas | grid it's very cool |
| 17:31.11 | Herio | it's been a while since i used grid heh |
| 17:31.14 | ggilbert_ | grid + detox is rocking for me |
| 17:31.19 | Scre3m | healbot shows pets |
| 17:31.30 | Herio | only really been 5 manning and soloing since the xpack hit =) |
| 17:32.45 | Herio | what does detox do now-a-days? a prioritized list of people who need to be de-debuffed? |
| 17:32.54 | ggilbert_ | pretty much |
| 17:33.20 | Herio | i found using grid's status ailment stuff worked well for me =) |
| 17:33.34 | ggilbert_ | grid isn't very noticable for me |
| 17:33.39 | ggilbert_ | it's off in a corner :) |
| 17:33.43 | Herio | ah |
| 17:33.59 | ggilbert_ | Detox pops up right in the middle of the screen and tells me to look at grid :) |
| 17:34.05 | Thrae | I use PerfectRaid, even though it's in beta. |
| 17:34.57 | doktoreas | Scre3m: got an info page for healbot please? |
| 17:35.28 | [Ammo] | perfectraid used to be my choice, but the first betas were evil and did not 'feel' the same |
| 17:35.37 | [Ammo] | so right now I use aguf for my raidframes |
| 17:36.01 | Herio | i like grid cause it lets me see everything i want in a compact space =) |
| 17:36.19 | [Ammo] | anyway, downed enough beer |
| 17:36.23 | Herio | small enough for my lock, still big enough for my pally |
| 17:36.25 | [Ammo] | time for dinner with my parents in law |
| 17:36.26 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 17:36.29 | [Ammo] | later guys :) |
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| 17:37.27 | joh | Is there any way to alter the sorting mechanism of MrPlow? |
| 17:37.40 | Ordog | rewrite it? :) |
| 17:37.47 | joh | :( |
| 17:37.54 | Ordog | in which way? |
| 17:37.56 | [Ammo] | joh: get baggins |
| 17:38.00 | [Ammo] | and try taht |
| 17:38.09 | [Ammo] | use All In One Sorted |
| 17:38.15 | [Ammo] | and you might get what you like |
| 17:38.16 | [Ammo] | if not |
| 17:38.24 | [Ammo] | redefine the sorts and categories |
| 17:38.25 | [Ammo] | bye :) |
| 17:38.36 | Ordog | bon apetiite [Ammo] |
| 17:38.38 | joh | [Ammo]: Ooh, looks interesting. Thanks! |
| 17:39.05 | doktoreas | i don't see healbot on aceupdater |
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| 17:39.47 | shieldb | ace mod != ace svn |
| 17:40.38 | shieldb | lots of ace mods aren't on the updater because the author chooses not to release them there |
| 17:40.43 | shieldb | fubar_auditorfu is the same way |
| 17:41.55 | chutwig|work | i got lazy and replaced all my mods with stuff i could find on svn |
| 17:42.28 | joh | chutwig|work: Have fun when some of them break :P |
| 17:42.43 | chutwig|work | joh: believe me, i do |
| 17:43.29 | Pneumatus | chutwig|work: i did exactly the same |
| 17:43.37 | Pneumatus | i have about 3 addons that arent in the svn now |
| 17:43.55 | chutwig|work | the only thing i haven't found a replacement for is sw_stats, but i never used it anyway, so i didn't feel bad about deleting it |
| 17:44.08 | Pneumatus | i love AdvancedTradeSkillWindow too much to lose that |
| 17:44.29 | Pneumatus | and OmniCC |
| 17:44.38 | chutwig|work | i got really tired of certain mods only being hosted on certain sites |
| 17:44.38 | durcyn | Pneumatus: atsw, try manufac. omnicc, get cooldowncount |
| 17:44.54 | Pneumatus | will take a look lol |
| 17:45.50 | chutwig|work | actually, no |
| 17:45.54 | chutwig|work | i still have spellalert sct |
| 17:46.08 | chutwig|work | that's the sole holdout |
| 17:47.05 | chutwig|work | also, which is cooldowncount? |
| 17:47.08 | Pneumatus | oh i have that also |
| 17:47.11 | chutwig|work | there's coolDown and CooldownTimers2 |
| 17:47.25 | joh | [Ammo]: Thanks alot for your tip, I love it! |
| 17:48.14 | durcyn | cooldowncount changes the button cooldonw model like omnicc |
| 17:48.23 | durcyn | chutwig|work: witchhunt? |
| 17:48.42 | chutwig|work | durcyn: i kind of like having the alerts appear in SCT but i wouldn't be too sad to lose them |
| 17:48.57 | chutwig|work | i'll try witchhunt |
| 17:49.02 | durcyn | chutwig|work: wh should support different output areas |
| 17:49.02 | chutwig|work | and duh i already have cooldowncount installed |
| 17:49.04 | chutwig|work | i r smrt |
| 17:49.20 | chutwig|work | is there something oCD-esque that's still in svn? |
| 17:49.24 | durcyn | including sct |
| 17:49.29 | chutwig|work | hot |
| 17:49.31 | durcyn | cooldowntimers2 is the closest thing to it |
| 17:49.40 | chutwig|work | i'll try it |
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| 17:49.59 | Proph_ | where can u download the latest !!!Libs.zip ? |
| 17:50.18 | durcyn | but is a bit flaky, it loses cooldowns over two minutes once it memorizes some undetermined number of item cooldowns, i keep having to reset my savedvars =( |
| 17:50.41 | chutwig|work | can it be told to ignore items? |
| 17:51.05 | durcyn | chutwig|work: not without finding and commenting out its bagscan code.. but then you lose potion/stone/etc cooldowns |
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| 17:54.13 | Funkeh` | hey all |
| 17:54.21 | Proph_ | where can u download the latest !!!Libs.zip ? |
| 17:54.59 | Funkeh` | proph i thought you used standalone libraries already |
| 17:56.18 | chutwig|work | yeah, it's a little buggy |
| 17:56.23 | chutwig|work | i blinked and it goes "Blink ready!" |
| 17:59.36 | Fisker- | oh lord |
| 17:59.40 | Fisker- | Blizzard failed again |
| 17:59.49 | Fisker- | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/contests/twoyear/index.html |
| 17:59.57 | chutwig|work | neotron will be sad to hear they're hotfixing the imp damage coefficient |
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| 18:04.43 | NeoTron | chutwig|work: actually I already respecced affliction. after reading that though I was glad I did |
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| 18:05.51 | NeoTron | I need more practice with affliction I think |
| 18:06.17 | NeoTron | I'm not 100% sure if so deep affliction is suitable for group play (i.e might be better with 21 into destruction for example) |
| 18:06.23 | NeoTron | but it sure is great for solo play |
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| 18:07.29 | chutwig|work | it's good on the grinding side and for annoying people in pvp with UA |
| 18:11.04 | NeoTron | actually |
| 18:11.07 | NeoTron | here's a kicker |
| 18:11.17 | NeoTron | the second boss in old's hillsbrad is a paladin. |
| 18:11.19 | NeoTron | he cleanses |
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| 18:11.36 | OvrLrd-Q | awesome |
| 18:11.40 | NeoTron | although I'm not sure if he cleanses anything but fear.. I kept trying to fear one of the adds and he kept cleansing |
| 18:11.42 | OvrLrd-Q | too bad I"ll never see old hillsbrad lol |
| 18:11.57 | NeoTron | OvrLrd-Q: it's a normal mid-60s 5 man instance |
| 18:12.05 | NeoTron | not hard to reach by any stretch of the imagination |
| 18:12.13 | OvrLrd-Q | really? Though you had to do a shit-ton of work at lvl 70 to open those instances? |
| 18:12.19 | NeoTron | no |
| 18:12.20 | OvrLrd-Q | or is that just the final hyjal one? |
| 18:12.24 | NeoTron | the first two are normal 5-mans |
| 18:12.37 | NeoTron | the hyjal one is the (currently) highest tier 25 man |
| 18:12.41 | NeoTron | until the black temple that is |
| 18:13.05 | OvrLrd-Q | yea, somebody posted the steps for opening hyjal, you're . . . going to be working for a bit :) |
| 18:13.07 | NeoTron | Old Hillsbrad = lvl 66 + doing prequest that involves walking around in CoT outside the instances |
| 18:13.18 | Barbanus | Is there a way to search Cartographer's notes for a quest giver? |
| 18:13.26 | NeoTron | The Dark Portal opening (Dark Morass) you get after doing Old Hillsbrad and is preferable done by 70s |
| 18:13.38 | Barbanus | I'd LOVE to search for the name of the quest giver who is in my log .. and have it highlight it on my map |
| 18:13.55 | Barbanus | like make it like bright red, or something |
| 18:14.09 | NeoTron | speaking of quest gives.. any way to make cartographer update the old book notes with the new exclamation marks for quest gives? |
| 18:14.17 | OvrLrd-Q | You can now buy account upgrade keys and download the game client for World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade directly through the account management section of www.worldofwarcraft.com. |
| 18:14.19 | OvrLrd-Q | wow, no fair :( |
| 18:14.43 | OvrLrd-Q | damn you blizz only half a month too late |
| 18:15.55 | NeoTron | what the fk is up with that anyway? |
| 18:16.11 | NeoTron | I waited to preorder for the longest time because I didn't want a physical copy |
| 18:16.40 | chutwig|work | i walked into my local gamestop at 7:30 the night of and preordered |
| 18:16.41 | neenee | Does WoWAceUpdater require .net 2.0? |
| 18:16.42 | chutwig|work | then showed up 4 hours later |
| 18:16.49 | neenee | I just reinstalled windows and am not sure |
| 18:17.07 | NeoTron | this is bound to irritate some people |
| 18:17.32 | |Kev| | neenee: yes, I believe so |
| 18:17.33 | NeoTron | they obviously wanted to milk good retail numbers from BC and now want to get everyone else to upgrade by making it easy |
| 18:18.13 | chutwig|work | well |
| 18:18.19 | chutwig|work | they also don't want to piss off their distributors |
| 18:18.27 | chutwig|work | who would have missed out on a lot of profit |
| 18:18.28 | neenee | |Kev|: oki. Thanks |
| 18:18.49 | Tain | They have to go through retail stores otherwise the publishers make no money. |
| 18:19.07 | Tain | They probably had a set number of retail sales after which they were ok with doing digital distribution. |
| 18:19.09 | ggilbert_ | they also probably wanted to avoid the bandwidth hell that an online launch would be |
| 18:19.32 | chutwig|work | that's why hey-zeus invented akamai |
| 18:20.26 | Tain | Bandwidth would be a concern, but they weren't ever going to even get that far. It's all about publishers getting paid. |
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| 18:20.52 | chutwig|work | pretty much |
| 18:20.57 | chutwig|work | if they piss off the publishes |
| 18:21.03 | chutwig|work | it could make it harder to get new stuff out there in the future |
| 18:21.04 | Pneumatus | durcyn: CooldownTimers2 is nothing like OmniCC o.O |
| 18:22.03 | ggilbert_ | It probably doesn't help that Blizzard is owned by their publisher, iirc :) |
| 18:22.41 | chutwig|work | i think my all-time favorite description of vivendi comes from the beginning of the big lebowski DVD |
| 18:22.55 | chutwig|work | when some old guy describes them as a "french sewage processing conglomerate" |
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| 18:23.51 | NeoTron | it's too bad Blizzard sold out |
| 18:24.02 | CIA-17 | 03archarodim * r26985 10Decursive/ (9 files): |
| 18:24.02 | CIA-17 | Decursive: |
| 18:24.02 | CIA-17 | - Added a new option to display the MUFs from bottom to top. |
| 18:24.16 | bver | hey does anyone have an idea why that when i change my outfits in either itemrack or outfitter, i lock up solid for like 5-10 secs? |
| 18:24.49 | NeoTron | bver: probably some inventory addon that does processing when items enter the inventory, whether the inventory is visible or not |
| 18:25.01 | NeoTron | at least that's my experience based on "item change lag" |
| 18:25.23 | bver | hmm |
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| 18:26.55 | stavmar | what might be the reason I cannot select items in my FuBar tooltips like GuildFu or LocationFu? |
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| 18:32.43 | kergoth | morning |
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| 18:33.16 | Ominous | what is wrong with if info.skill == BS["Remorseless"] then info.skill = BS["Remorseless Attacks"] end? |
| 18:33.55 | Ominous | if fires the function but dosent do the re-assignment |
| 18:34.23 | ggilbert_ | kergoth: slacker |
| 18:35.49 | durcyn | Pneumatus: never said it was. |
| 18:35.52 | ckknight | hey all |
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| 18:38.06 | neenee | hello |
| 18:38.12 | xyu | hmm i figured out why i had POIs in outlands and not azeroth. it was carto_scribe adding them. i'm not even sure what POIs are supposed to be but was thinking those numbers in outlands were it :( |
| 18:39.31 | [dRaCo] | points of interest |
| 18:39.47 | ckknight | Bruners: :-P |
| 18:39.52 | xyu | yeah, little markers that would tell me spots on the map? |
| 18:40.00 | xyu | i don't get those in the old lands. just get them in outlands from "scribe" |
| 18:41.05 | Amadeo | kergoth: You ever figure out what that error spam was coming from? |
| 18:42.14 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26986 10nQuestLog/nQuestLog.toc: nQuestLog : Adding X-Embeds to toc |
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| 18:44.35 | kergoth | xyu: the cart poi module only adds points you get from guards directing you to places to the map. its probably not named that well |
| 18:44.43 | kergoth | xyu: if that was the source of your confusion |
| 18:44.49 | xyu | ohhh |
| 18:44.49 | xyu | kk |
| 18:44.53 | xyu | whew, at least i know |
| 18:45.03 | xyu | thanks |
| 18:45.24 | Fisker- | Well actually you forgot about Poland |
| 18:45.25 | kergoth | Tekkub: ping |
| 18:45.35 | Tekkub | no, vump |
| 18:45.41 | xyu | is there a "cart_scribe" like module for Azeroth? |
| 18:45.43 | _neuron_ | anyone know how often/how the wowwiki's toc data for each mod updates? |
| 18:46.02 | kergoth | Tekkub: was just perusing the code for tekirate from your svn, looks clean, but line 158 confused me: if string.find(text, " and ") then return s, string.gsub(text, " and ", ",") end |
| 18:46.15 | kergoth | Tekkub: i dont see an 's' defined anywhere |
| 18:46.34 | kergoth | i'm probably missing something, but was curious |
| 18:46.37 | kergoth | :) |
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| 18:46.44 | Tekkub | I'm still not done, the string splitting part is the main bit left to clean up |
| 18:47.08 | kergoth | ah |
| 18:47.09 | Kemayo | Tekirate? |
| 18:47.10 | Tekkub | blizzy's descriptions are nice and inconsistant :P |
| 18:47.17 | kergoth | its tek's version of ratingbuster |
| 18:47.41 | Fisker- | They forgot about poland |
| 18:47.45 | Tekkub | it needs to be changed to use nice string.find captures as well |
| 18:47.52 | Fisker- | Is it better than Ratingbuster Tekkub ? |
| 18:48.06 | kergoth | someone other than me was wanting something to add things like the crit from agi to tooltips, so figured i'd poke around at it and see how much work would be involved in adding it |
| 18:48.08 | Tekkub | RatingsBuster.... well he breaks the string into tokens, shoves those in a table, and iterates over them |
| 18:48.20 | kergoth | new tables in every tooltip parse is bad |
| 18:48.21 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:48.24 | Tekkub | injects the percent, the pieces together the end string |
| 18:48.30 | Tekkub | it's... nasty... |
| 18:48.45 | Tekkub | anyway off I goes to do RL shit |
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| 18:49.11 | Kemayo | Sounds like an addon I'll have to start using. |
| 18:51.04 | kergoth | anyone have a large db from tooltip exchange? i'm bored at work and want some full item tooltips to poke at :P |
| 18:51.30 | _neuron_ | or start working at work kergoth :p |
| 18:51.35 | kergoth | pfft, crazy talk |
| 18:51.44 | kergoth | our project was killed and we already did our final release |
| 18:51.47 | kergoth | nothing to do |
| 18:51.50 | _neuron_ | hehe |
| 18:51.55 | kergoth | not even sure why wer'e still here |
| 18:51.58 | kergoth | must be some new work coming at some point |
| 18:52.10 | chutwig|work | downtime! |
| 18:52.15 | chutwig|work | i've been on downtime for like 2 weeks |
| 18:52.21 | kergoth | boooooring |
| 18:52.30 | chutwig|work | i get in some quality levelling time |
| 18:52.36 | _neuron_ | kergoth do you know how often wowace.com's wiki refreshes the toc data boxes? (http://www.wowace.com/wiki/NQuestLog :p ) |
| 18:52.46 | kergoth | us army contract work here |
| 18:52.52 | kergoth | they're sticklers on proper network usage |
| 18:52.55 | chutwig|work | state university here |
| 18:52.56 | kergoth | filter everything |
| 18:53.07 | chutwig|work | and i'm the sysadmin |
| 18:53.10 | kergoth | i remember the week that wikipedia got blocked as porn |
| 18:53.11 | kergoth | that blew |
| 18:53.13 | _neuron_ | haha |
| 18:53.19 | chutwig|work | i does what i wants |
| 18:53.23 | kergoth | nice |
| 18:53.41 | chutwig|work | abusing my power would be irresponsible, though |
| 18:53.54 | chutwig|work | so i only do it when i have nothing else to do :ninja: |
| 18:54.09 | kergoth | bofh it up |
| 18:54.11 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:54.37 | chutwig|work | as much as i would love to, it just makes more work for me |
| 18:54.43 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:55.00 | chutwig|work | even though i have fond thoughts of just doing rm -rf /home/personwhoannoysme |
| 18:55.27 | chutwig|work | but then i would have to pull tapes and do a restore and all that crpa |
| 18:55.40 | _neuron_ | echo "#!/bin/bash \n exit" > /home/person/.bashrc |
| 18:55.48 | _neuron_ | random person : my login doesn't work, me : looks fine on this end, must be you |
| 18:55.55 | Eej | oh man |
| 18:55.58 | Eej | 18555/21000 with Scryer |
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| 18:56.17 | Eej | I can almost taste the shoulder enchants |
| 18:56.30 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:57.13 | bver | btw, i figured out the addon causing all item swapping lag, range help :( |
| 18:57.58 | Eej | I also need to farm up 18 stacks of netherweave |
| 18:58.05 | kergoth | Amadeo: nope, dunno what was causing it |
| 18:58.43 | xyu | that shouldn't be hard. |
| 18:59.24 | Eej | well I feel stupid because I just sold 28 stacks of netherweave for dirt cheap, then realized that I could have made 18 slotters for my bank witht hose |
| 18:59.28 | chutwig|work | heh, yeah |
| 18:59.42 | chutwig|work | i gave like 16 stacks to somebody in my guild because i needed the bank space |
| 18:59.52 | chutwig|work | and then it occurred to me i could have sold it for like 80g |
| 19:00.06 | xyu | 16 slotters still sell? |
| 19:00.08 | Amadeo | I'm reading that MS is going to make a Zune Phone now, haha |
| 19:00.13 | Amadeo | Wonder if it's real |
| 19:00.26 | chutwig|work | i imagine it will sell about as well as the zune does now |
| 19:00.33 | Tain | I still keep hoping the Zune isn't real and it was all a bad dream. |
| 19:00.37 | Eej | I heard Zune Phone exists as PocketPC |
| 19:00.39 | chutwig|work | welcome to the social |
| 19:00.40 | Amadeo | http://crunchgear.com/2007/02/01/source-microsoft-zune-phone-in-the-works/ |
| 19:00.42 | Tain | You should probably check the retail numbers before you say that, chutwig |
| 19:01.04 | chutwig|work | ...why |
| 19:01.09 | chutwig|work | i'm saying i think it will sell poorly, like the zune has |
| 19:01.27 | Tain | The Zune hasn't sold poorly. |
| 19:01.38 | Tain | It is a poor product on many levels, but it sold a shitload this holiday season. |
| 19:01.40 | [dRaCo] | it sucks, but people buy it anyway. |
| 19:01.54 | Amadeo | I haven't heard that much bad stuff about it |
| 19:02.02 | Tain | You... squirt your music to other people. |
| 19:02.07 | Amadeo | I heard it has excellent audio quality |
| 19:02.11 | xyu | well i know like 7 people w/ an ipod |
| 19:02.14 | xyu | and i know 0 people w/ a zune |
| 19:02.15 | Tain | YOU SQUIRT YOUR MUSIC |
| 19:02.16 | xyu | so... |
| 19:02.27 | xyu | not sure who's buying that |
| 19:02.36 | [dRaCo] | it's just one big piece of DRM |
| 19:02.40 | xyu | how much is it anyway? |
| 19:02.44 | [dRaCo] | nothing innovative |
| 19:02.45 | Amadeo | 250 |
| 19:02.48 | Tain | No, it isn't draco. |
| 19:03.08 | Tain | Media you buy may have DRM. The device doesn't add DRM to things that don't have it. |
| 19:03.14 | Tain | The same with the iPod. |
| 19:03.34 | Amadeo | To be honest, I want a Cowon A3 :) |
| 19:03.35 | [dRaCo] | it was supposed to... when you send music to other players |
| 19:03.49 | [dRaCo] | if it does, that feature is completely useless |
| 19:03.59 | chutwig|work | 3 plays or something like that |
| 19:04.15 | Tain | Oh yeah there's something like that when you SQUIRT your music to someone else. |
| 19:04.34 | [dRaCo] | and since that was the only cool thing about the zune, it's just a bad ipod ripoff |
| 19:04.37 | [dRaCo] | my 2 cents.. |
| 19:04.41 | chutwig|work | you are really relishing saying the word "squirt" |
| 19:04.47 | Amadeo | It's turning me on |
| 19:04.52 | Tain | But I have only heard of how it works when you do it with purchased music, don't know if it applies to stuff you rip yourself. It may very well. |
| 19:05.01 | [dRaCo] | afaik it does |
| 19:05.05 | chutwig|work | it applies to anything, whether it was DRM'd previously or not |
| 19:05.12 | chutwig|work | and a lot of stuff off the marketplace apparently can't be, uh, squirted |
| 19:05.23 | Tain | I do know that some songs you buy you aren't even allowed to SQUIRT |
| 19:06.04 | Tain | It makes no f'n sense, why the hell would you call it that. That makes me insanely angry that someone out there thinks sharing your music with someone else should be called *squirting* |
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| 19:06.50 | Tain | Not only did someone suggest it, countless executives and marketing departments had to say, "Hey that's a great name for it!" |
| 19:06.59 | neenee | :) |
| 19:07.03 | Amadeo | Well, guys like to squirt |
| 19:07.15 | neenee | As do some girls :) |
| 19:07.21 | Tain | ~surprise |
| 19:07.22 | purl | BUTTSECKS! |
| 19:07.23 | neenee | Everyone loves to squirt with Zune |
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| 19:07.51 | chutwig|work | should've called it "impregnating your zune" |
| 19:08.09 | ckknight | I sexed your zune! |
| 19:08.15 | neenee | ;) |
| 19:08.21 | Mikma | ckknight: "secksed" |
| 19:08.30 | ckknight | bewbs. |
| 19:08.31 | Tain | So what do you call it when you forcibly take music from someone else's zune? |
| 19:08.38 | chutwig|work | emergency breeding |
| 19:08.50 | ckknight | surprise sex! |
| 19:08.56 | Harshmage | Remember too, don't deny your Urge |
| 19:09.06 | Amadeo | Your Urge to Squirt? |
| 19:09.07 | Tain | i'm in ur zune hacking ur squirt |
| 19:09.17 | Beutju | hi, can onebag show the amount of the mouseovered item that i have on other chars - so that when i mouseover runecloth e.g. it will show x on twinkA - y on twinkB etc? |
| 19:09.40 | [dRaCo] | nope |
| 19:10.10 | Beutju | ah crap :/ |
| 19:10.16 | Tain | That's why I miss KC_EnhancedTrades |
| 19:10.51 | Amadeo | Now someone needs to make some sort of Trade addon called Squirt |
| 19:10.58 | kergoth | Beutju: there are a bunch of addons that can do that |
| 19:11.03 | kergoth | Beutju: i know sanity2 does |
| 19:11.14 | Tain | Hey Amadeo thanks for helping me on that quest, I'll squirt you some gold |
| 19:11.19 | Beutju | i'll have a look on it |
| 19:11.26 | Amadeo | haha |
| 19:11.31 | chutwig|work | through your tradegina |
| 19:11.47 | Tain | haha let me just open up a tradegina window |
| 19:14.48 | kergoth | heh, http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4558.0 is just what i was wondering about the other day |
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| 19:15.17 | Beutju | kergoth do you know other smaller addons with only such a function? |
| 19:15.40 | kergoth | fraid not |
| 19:15.50 | kergoth | i vote we add it to tek's version of ratingbuster |
| 19:15.52 | chutwig|work | no e-mail all afternoon |
| 19:15.55 | chutwig|work | la la la la lalalalalaal |
| 19:16.44 | neenee | ;) |
| 19:16.45 | nevcairiel | there is a tek version of ratingbuster? |
| 19:16.55 | neenee | There's one in the works I think |
| 19:17.05 | nevcairiel | ah. |
| 19:17.16 | kergoth | its in his svn, btu he's not done yet |
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| 19:17.28 | kergoth | tiny thing, much simpler code, no table creation in parsing, uses dongle |
| 19:17.34 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 19:17.37 | bver | anyone else having issues with ora2 Main Tank Target frames, and Player Target Frames? |
| 19:17.42 | neenee | Nothing is ever done :) |
| 19:18.54 | nevcairiel | a friend requested an addon, to show the summary of stats on socketed items, for better comparison .. does anyone know if something like that is out somewhere? |
| 19:20.15 | Amadeo | I think there is, but I forget the name |
| 19:20.18 | Amadeo | I saw it on WoWI |
| 19:20.37 | kergoth | nevcairiel: check out jtips, that might be what you want |
| 19:20.47 | kergoth | itll fold enchants and/or socket info into the normal item stats |
| 19:20.55 | kergoth | so you see one: +70AP or whatever, summed up |
| 19:21.21 | nevcairiel | thanks will take a look |
| 19:22.45 | kergoth | its not bad, i like disabling the enchant folding though, otherwise its hard to see whether i still havea crappy enchant i need to upgrade to something better :P |
| 19:23.36 | nevcairiel | some small extra tooltip is fine i guess :) |
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| 19:24.43 | NeoTron | one would think that adding a few numbers wouldn't be that hard ;-) |
| 19:25.08 | CIA-17 | 03kunda * r26987 10AHsearch/ (4 files): AHsearch: code cleanup |
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| 19:30.53 | Azurewrath | rofl... there are undead mobs in the kitchen of Karazhan who do a debuff named hamstring.. and the icon is a ham.. |
| 19:31.01 | kergoth | hahah |
| 19:31.21 | Chosi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZNP-VYZnT0 |
| 19:31.25 | Chosi | whoever did not see that quest yet |
| 19:31.26 | Chosi | ;) |
| 19:32.16 | NeoTron | I haven't |
| 19:32.43 | Chosi | i lacked footage because it was over quite fast |
| 19:32.45 | Chosi | well anyways |
| 19:32.47 | NeoTron | but I wouldn't want to eat whatever they are puking |
| 19:32.48 | Chosi | i thought it's funny :> |
| 19:35.03 | kergoth | whats the chat message when you loot money and your'e solo? (not the 'your share[..]' thing) |
| 19:35.08 | OvrLrd-Q | with DrDmg what does HSPC stand for? I assume HPS is health per second, but what's the C mean? |
| 19:35.24 | CIA-17 | 03kunda * r26988 10AHsearch/AHsearch.lua: AHsearch: cleanup |
| 19:35.31 | OvrLrd-Q | Doesn't have one kergoth |
| 19:35.51 | kergoth | ah |
| 19:36.01 | chutwig|work | no, it doe |
| 19:36.08 | chutwig|work | says "You looted ____________" |
| 19:36.10 | chutwig|work | without a period |
| 19:36.15 | OvrLrd-Q | you s |
| 19:36.18 | OvrLrd-Q | *thats just for items |
| 19:36.20 | chutwig|work | yes |
| 19:36.22 | chutwig|work | i am sure |
| 19:36.37 | chutwig|work | items say "You receive item: [blah blah]." |
| 19:37.18 | kergoth | hmm, is it You receive loot: %s.? |
| 19:37.29 | kergoth | no, thats LOOT_ITEM_SELF, that wouldtn be right |
| 19:37.35 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:37.42 | Chosi | what does ahsearch so? |
| 19:37.55 | Chosi | let you search the ah anywhere? |
| 19:38.27 | OvrLrd-Q | Well |
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| 19:38.32 | OvrLrd-Q | I just looted some money and guess what it said |
| 19:38.35 | OvrLrd-Q | absolutely nothing |
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| 19:38.46 | kergoth | pretty sure ahsearch is just preset searches, see the .toc |
| 19:38.48 | chutwig|work | would you like me to take a screenshot of what i see |
| 19:39.21 | CIA-17 | 03kunda * r26989 10AHsearch/AHsearch.lua: AHsearch: cleanup |
| 19:39.25 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26990 10nQuestLog/modules/SmartVisibility.lua: nQuestLog : Fixing zone folding again |
| 19:39.38 | OvrLrd-Q | if you want, but i'm saying with the stock chat frame I've never seen money loots except while in a party |
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| 19:39.51 | chutwig|work | well, i'm not making anything up |
| 19:39.54 | kergoth | not a huge deal, just gonna add gold looted to LootAlert |
| 19:39.55 | chutwig|work | and i am assuredly solo |
| 19:40.06 | kergoth | (little addon that shows what you loot and how many of that item you had in your inventory in msbt/sct/fct) |
| 19:40.17 | todd` | neuron, wtb quest notes, me love you long time |
| 19:40.31 | _neuron_ | todd`, what kind of notes would you attach to a quest? :P |
| 19:40.33 | OvrLrd-Q | just see how auditor_fu does it |
| 19:40.40 | _neuron_ | besides "I really should get around to doing this" :P |
| 19:40.43 | chutwig|work | drdamage needs fixing for the first two ranks of arcane missiles |
| 19:40.43 | todd` | lol |
| 19:40.49 | todd` | my own little summary or one line about where something is |
| 19:41.00 | _neuron_ | well if you know where something is wouldn't you just do it? :P |
| 19:41.13 | todd` | no, I get about 20 quests in my log before I do them |
| 19:41.23 | todd` | and do all the quests in one area |
| 19:41.27 | todd` | and move on to the next |
| 19:41.37 | _neuron_ | so do I, but I rarly go through and figure out where all of em are first |
| 19:41.45 | _neuron_ | I just open a browser in the background and thott everything I need :P |
| 19:42.10 | neenee | I use the quest logs and look up nothing |
| 19:42.22 | neenee | And I let the quests take me to the next area as well :) |
| 19:42.28 | kenlyric | I haven't needed thought on anything in TBC. |
| 19:42.36 | kenlyric | good quest descriptions FTW! |
| 19:42.39 | _neuron_ | yeah |
| 19:42.45 | kenlyric | errr... lol... thott, not thought... |
| 19:42.50 | _neuron_ | hehe |
| 19:42.59 | kenlyric | I award myself the delicious irony award of the day! |
| 19:43.14 | xyu | made sense either way :D |
| 19:43.31 | kenlyric | fyi, "You loot 17 Silver, 80 Copper" |
| 19:43.36 | neenee | Well, what you first typed was horrible English :) |
| 19:44.48 | CIA-17 | 03kunda * r26991 10AHsearch/AHsearch.lua: AHsearch: cleanup |
| 19:45.28 | OvrLrd-Q | Well that's cheap :( |
| 19:45.48 | OvrLrd-Q | I can honestly say I've never seen any chat message about looting money when not in a group |
| 19:47.27 | Cyrez | I am so pissed... I was in WSG and somehow got stuck in limbo. Couldn't rez but my side could see me and I couldn't see any of the other faction. |
| 19:47.34 | kergoth | ah, there it is. YOU_LOOT_MONEY in globalstrings... obvious enough? |
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| 19:48.06 | kenlyric | OvrLrd-Q: There's a chat event for loot, though i don't see a way to turn off money individually. |
| 19:48.40 | OvrLrd-Q | yea, i get the item |
| 19:48.40 | RLD_osx | did a druid rez you? |
| 19:49.06 | Cyrez | Somebody tried but nothing happened when I clicked the button. |
| 19:49.13 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r26992 10nQuestLog/nQuestLog.toc: nQuestLog : Cleaning up toc file |
| 19:49.22 | Cyrez | We started losing after that. |
| 19:49.34 | Cyrez | And I could do nothing but talk in BG chat. |
| 19:49.42 | Cyrez | And run around aimlessly. |
| 19:49.49 | RLD_osx | if it was a druid have them use something other than a maple seed. |
| 19:49.53 | OvrLrd-Q | hurm |
| 19:50.37 | Cyrez | Couldn't see the spirit rez guy, either. And my corpse was long gone. |
| 19:51.14 | Cyrez | How screwed is that? |
| 19:51.59 | _neuron_ | Tekkub, ping |
| 19:52.03 | OvrLrd-Q | wonder if it's an addon then |
| 19:52.17 | RLD_osx | I've only seen it happen when my druid tries to rez someone with a maple seed. other seeds seem ok. |
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| 19:52.39 | Gagorian | chutwig|work: hmm? |
| 19:53.12 | chutwig|work | Gagorian: the numbers it calculates for AM ranks 1 and 2 are too high |
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| 19:53.16 | OvrLrd-Q | hurm, seems others in my guild dont see money loot when solo either . . . *kicks blizz* |
| 19:53.22 | Cyrez | Might be HonorFu's auto-release. |
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| 19:53.56 | Gagorian | chutwig|work: That must be devastating for your DPS calculations ;) |
| 19:54.05 | chutwig|work | you have no idea |
| 19:54.10 | chutwig|work | i only mention it for the sake of completeness |
| 19:54.28 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.34 | kenlyric | errr, what localization? |
| 19:54.39 | OvrLrd-Q | enUS |
| 19:54.43 | Gagorian | chutwig|work: It's kind of annoying to calculate low ranks |
| 19:54.43 | kenlyric | very strange. |
| 19:54.51 | kenlyric | maybe a mod is filtering it... |
| 19:54.54 | OvrLrd-Q | yea, just asked some others |
| 19:54.59 | Gagorian | because they have the spell level < 20 and downranking penalties |
| 19:55.03 | OvrLrd-Q | in guild and they say they dont see anything unless it's a quest turnin |
| 19:55.05 | Gagorian | and usually even exceptions on those |
| 19:56.18 | chutwig|work | it looks about correct at rank 3 |
| 19:56.18 | Gagorian | chutwig|work: I can fix it though as soon as I know what the downranking levels used are |
| 19:56.18 | chutwig|work | also if you want paladin data i can supply you with more |
| 19:56.18 | OvrLrd-Q | AH |
| 19:56.23 | OvrLrd-Q | kenlyric: YOU_LOOT_MONEY only fires off if you autoloot :) |
| 19:56.27 | Gagorian | Sure. To start correcting the Arcane Missiles |
| 19:56.34 | Gagorian | Go to mage.lua |
| 19:56.41 | Gagorian | and reduce maxlevel = x for both ranks |
| 19:56.44 | OvrLrd-Q | figured it was something stupid like that |
| 19:56.49 | kenlyric | I don't OvrLrd-Q: possible. Though, I used to see it before I autolooted. |
| 19:56.49 | Gagorian | until you find the correct valu |
| 19:56.51 | Gagorian | *value |
| 19:56.53 | Gagorian | then tell me :p |
| 19:56.54 | kenlyric | Though, I always shift-looted then. |
| 19:57.06 | chutwig|work | m-kay |
| 19:57.08 | OvrLrd-Q | yea just tried it, if I autoloot it shows up |
| 19:57.16 | ckknight | Theorycraft looks cool. is there anything wowace that does the same stuff? |
| 19:57.21 | kenlyric | why would you turn off autoloot? |
| 19:57.38 | chutwig|work | Gagorian: how do the different downrank values work? |
| 19:57.47 | stavmar | ckknight: DrDamage does |
| 19:57.49 | kenlyric | I'm cooking useless food before I sell it just so I can vendor it for more money :) |
| 19:58.09 | acirac | can someone with svn acces please add the line ["Jewelcrafting"] = "INV_Misc_Gem_02", to Babble-Spell-2.2 at line 9038 under local spellIcons={ |
| 19:58.12 | Gagorian | chutwig: Well, it's a value that's set for a spell to determined after what level it starts to get downranking penalty effects |
| 19:58.16 | OvrLrd-Q | kenlyric: *shrug* |
| 19:58.20 | Gagorian | Basically higher level less penalty |
| 19:58.24 | Gagorian | at your current level |
| 19:58.29 | Gagorian | so you need to reduce the values |
| 19:58.39 | chutwig|work | maxLevel or Downrank? |
| 19:58.47 | Gagorian | Well it's technically the same thing |
| 19:58.48 | chutwig|work | for some ranks of AM you have Downrank listed after maxLevel |
| 19:58.56 | Gagorian | yeah it's the same thing |
| 19:59.00 | chutwig|work | i see |
| 19:59.07 | CIA-17 | 03kunda * r26993 10AHsearch/AHsearch.lua: AHsearch: fix |
| 19:59.16 | Gagorian | If you put maxLevel = 11, it's the same as maxLevel = 15, Downrank = -4 |
| 19:59.33 | Gagorian | But the last option would be used cause maxlevels are used to count base damage increases |
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| 19:59.45 | Gagorian | but while testing it doesn't matter |
| 19:59.46 | chutwig|work | right |
| 20:02.21 | Gagorian | aha |
| 20:02.38 | Gagorian | scratch that chutwig|work |
| 20:02.41 | Gagorian | Try these: |
| 20:02.44 | chutwig|work | scratched |
| 20:03.05 | chutwig|work | also, the 3rd and 4th numbers in each row represent what? |
| 20:03.24 | Gagorian | [2] = { 36, 36, 1, 2, spellLevel = 16, maxLevel = 23, castTime = 4, sHits = 4, }, |
| 20:03.33 | Gagorian | [1] = { 24, 24, 1, 2, spellLevel = 8, maxLevel = 15, castTime = 3, sHits = 3, }, |
| 20:03.40 | Antiarc|Work | 4 shits? :O |
| 20:03.50 | Gagorian | yup it was so funny I had to use that variable name :P |
| 20:03.53 | PogoTribal | lol |
| 20:04.02 | Gagorian | spellHits |
| 20:04.05 | Gagorian | sHits. |
| 20:04.22 | Gagorian | chutwig|work: Base damage increases that you get to the spell |
| 20:04.40 | Gagorian | Full amount is recieved when you've reached the maxlevel |
| 20:05.31 | chutwig|work | i see |
| 20:05.51 | chutwig|work | so in order it's minimum damage, maximum damage, minimum base damage increase, maximum base damage increase |
| 20:05.59 | Gagorian | yup |
| 20:06.14 | chutwig|work | i understand data formats |
| 20:06.58 | chutwig|work | i guess the paladin one is tricksy because of the difference between seal and judgement damage |
| 20:07.15 | Gagorian | You can see there's zeroes on high level spells for damage increases.. I haven't got any data on those yet |
| 20:07.16 | acirac | can someone with svn acces please add the line ["Jewelcrafting"] = "INV_Misc_Gem_02", to Babble-Spell-2.2 at line 9038 under local spellIcons={. This also needs to be done for ["Prospecting"], however i am not sure what the correct icon name is, i have been using "INV_Misc_Gem_Bloodstone_01" for now. I tried applying for svn access to do it myself, but never recieved a response to my email |
| 20:07.28 | chutwig|work | oops |
| 20:07.32 | chutwig|work | i broke the data file :3 |
| 20:07.46 | Gagorian | :P |
| 20:07.49 | chutwig|work | smrt |
| 20:08.27 | Nickenyfiken | hmm anyone having problems with Carotographer instance notes disappearing? |
| 20:08.36 | chutwig|work | i was trying to figure out the coefficient earlier on seal and judgement of vengeance |
| 20:08.38 | chutwig|work | it's kind of nebulous |
| 20:09.14 | chutwig|work | i think for the seal it's 100% spread over the 4 ticks |
| 20:09.19 | chutwig|work | not sure about the judgement |
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| 20:17.07 | Azurewrath | mhm.. does anyone know if there is any nearer repair Vendor then Stonard for Horde in Karazhan |
| 20:19.55 | OvrLrd-Q | stonard is pretty close |
| 20:21.32 | chutwig|work | hah |
| 20:21.36 | chutwig|work | this bug is great |
| 20:21.47 | chutwig|work | apparently nefarian class calls now turn everyone into warriors |
| 20:22.00 | chutwig|work | so everyone gets rage bars and gets stuck in berserker stance even if they're not warriors |
| 20:22.25 | NeoTron | hah |
| 20:22.27 | NeoTron | wait |
| 20:22.32 | chutwig|work | http://images.reanmachine.com/pally-with-rage.jpg |
| 20:22.36 | NeoTron | can you still heal and stuff? |
| 20:22.39 | chutwig|work | apparently not |
| 20:22.44 | OvrLrd-Q | lol |
| 20:22.48 | NeoTron | ouch |
| 20:22.53 | chutwig|work | and it's server-side so there's nothing they can do until blizzard fixes it |
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| 20:23.25 | NeoTron | wait you get stuck after you leave too |
| 20:23.27 | NeoTron | ? |
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| 20:24.38 | chutwig|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=73388268&sid=1&pageNo=1 is the relevant thread |
| 20:25.22 | Cartas | Who are the masters of Bartender 3? (Besides Nevcairierl, I mean. He seems to be AFK) |
| 20:25.37 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r26994 10LootAlert/ (ChangeLog core.lua): LootAlert: show notification of looting gold, per request. Drycoded, you've been warned. |
| 20:26.57 | OvrLrd-Q | The GMs have found and confirmed a solution to our problems, and are currently going through our characters 1 by 1 to fix it. |
| 20:26.59 | OvrLrd-Q | zing |
| 20:28.22 | kagaro|work | who maintains the !!!Standalone packages? |
| 20:29.04 | Mikma | no-one |
| 20:32.16 | PogoTribal | err |
| 20:32.26 | PogoTribal | I can't freaking find out how to move my QuestsFu tracker |
| 20:32.36 | axxo | drag the tiny edge |
| 20:33.14 | ckknight | axxo: actually I fixed that |
| 20:33.16 | Chosi | OvrLrd-Q: what problems? |
| 20:33.19 | ckknight | just click anywhere and drag. |
| 20:33.24 | NeoTron | so seems like doing Kharazan is a matter of seeing new content, not getting better gear |
| 20:33.37 | OvrLrd-Q | Chosi: that was about the Nef bug chutwig was talking about |
| 20:33.41 | NeoTron | content from l70 5-man dungeons are in fact not just similar but ourgith better |
| 20:33.47 | NeoTron | s/ourgith/outright/ |
| 20:33.56 | PogoTribal | hmm... NOW it works |
| 20:34.13 | chutwig|work | NeoTron: maybe heroic, but certainly not the regular dungeons |
| 20:34.56 | NeoTron | chutwig|work: oh really? |
| 20:35.03 | chutwig|work | karazhan loot is all epic |
| 20:35.10 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: should i bug you or someone else with a Cartographer_InstanceLoot/Notes bug? (notes disappear the second time you open the map when in the instance) |
| 20:35.21 | NeoTron | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28647 vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28340 |
| 20:35.33 | NeoTron | every single stat is higher on the blue one from a 5-man |
| 20:35.45 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: odd, need to go to an instance to test |
| 20:35.47 | chutwig|work | that's probably because blizzard is retarded when it comes to itemization |
| 20:35.49 | NeoTron | rare ilevel 115 > epic ilevel 100 |
| 20:35.54 | chutwig|work | there are green shaman relics that are better than epic ones |
| 20:36.09 | chutwig|work | that doesn't mean that karazhan loot as a whole is worse than what you would get in regular-difficulty 5-mans |
| 20:36.14 | NeoTron | epic adds maybe 5-10 ilevels compared to rares |
| 20:36.24 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: speaking of bugs, wanna check this? foglight is acting strange for that place (occluding parts I have already "discovered"): http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/foglight_bug/ |
| 20:36.26 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: there are no errors or so. To fix it i have to open another map... and then reopen the map and the notes are back |
| 20:36.28 | chutwig|work | most of the stuff in karazhan is like blues from outside except with sockets |
| 20:36.30 | NeoTron | there is better loot in there but early loot is barely better at all |
| 20:36.37 | chutwig|work | the ilvls required for the sockets are what make it epic |
| 20:36.48 | NeoTron | that one has no sockets |
| 20:36.52 | NeoTron | so how is that relevant? |
| 20:37.08 | chutwig|work | you're pointing out one item and incorrectly expanding it to cover all karazhan loot |
| 20:37.20 | NeoTron | there's moer examples |
| 20:37.34 | NeoTron | earlier bosses in there drop worse loot than 5-man instances |
| 20:37.42 | NeoTron | later bosses have like ilevel 110 epics |
| 20:37.44 | NeoTron | they are better |
| 20:37.46 | NeoTron | no doubt |
| 20:37.52 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: odd |
| 20:37.55 | NeoTron | it's like AQ40 |
| 20:38.06 | NeoTron | end is good, beginning not so much |
| 20:38.15 | Gnarfoz | indeed - if I turn foglight off and on, the pattern changes (as seen in the screenshots) |
| 20:39.35 | NeoTron | http://thottbot.com/?i=59966 vs http://www.thottbot.com/?i=59613 |
| 20:39.47 | Cyrez | ckknight: Could a time delay option be added to the auto-release feature in FuBar_HonorFu? I think that's what got my toon stranded in between life and death in the middle of WSG... Maybe a submenu with Instant>1sec>3sec>5sec>Off. |
| 20:39.56 | NeoTron | it's possible with epic gems that the karazhan would be better but alas |
| 20:40.40 | Cyrez | I was stuck in a void for more than half of the game and the Horde was invisible to me and I couldn't rez at all. I think the auto-release did it. |
| 20:40.51 | chutwig|work | they killed a few more bosses in karazhan last night while i was in some 5-mans |
| 20:40.56 | chutwig|work | and i do admit the loot was pretty meh |
| 20:41.03 | chutwig|work | but that's probably because it's all hunter and shaman crap |
| 20:41.14 | chutwig|work | i'd probably have been annoyed if there was nice damage plate or something |
| 20:41.20 | NeoTron | It should start, imho, at a loot level similar or slighyl better than end of l70 instances |
| 20:41.37 | NeoTron | now it starts below that for a significantly harder instance |
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| 20:41.45 | chutwig|work | there's always some overlap |
| 20:41.55 | ckknight | Cyrez: I'd suggest that you bug Blizzard to fix it. |
| 20:41.57 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:42.09 | ckknight | but you can code it in if you want. |
| 20:42.35 | NeoTron | you have to admit an item with the same stats being worse in every single stat is not exactly impressive though |
| 20:42.51 | Cyrez | Nah, I can't code that well... >< |
| 20:42.56 | chutwig|work | i am just going to keep plugging with my mage |
| 20:43.26 | ckknight | Cyrez: and I have no motivation to fix it |
| 20:43.42 | ckknight | so looks like we're both in a bind |
| 20:43.48 | NeoTron | to my benefit, at least now I'm a playing a dps class |
| 20:43.49 | ckknight | alright, time to head off to school |
| 20:43.56 | Cyrez | I think it's Blizzard's fault all the way, actually. ;) |
| 20:44.03 | ckknight | btw, sylvanaar, thanks for recommending I stick with my Shammy |
| 20:44.04 | NeoTron | so I won't have to spend long hours getting gear that only help me in raids :P |
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| 20:45.25 | Cyrez | That bug shouldn't happen at all. There isn't anything in between dead and alive. |
| 20:45.42 | Cyrez | There was in Counter-Strike but that was fixed ages ago. |
| 20:45.59 | Cyrez | Some spectator hack. |
| 20:54.03 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26995 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (Talismonger-3.0/ filelist.wau): !!!StandaloneLibraries: Added Talismonger-3.0 |
| 20:54.29 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r26996 10LootAlert/core.lua: LootAlert: nil check in CHAT_MSG_MONEY. |
| 21:00.39 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26997 10Cartographer_Fishing/ (. addon.lua): Cartographer_Fishing: started converting cart fishing to talismonger |
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| 21:12.31 | CIA-17 | 03zealotonastick * r26998 10Voyeur/ (Voyeur.lua Voyeur.toc): |
| 21:12.31 | CIA-17 | Voyeur: |
| 21:12.31 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.31 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.31 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:15.06 | Mikma | lootalert reminds me of "lootwhore" for some reason |
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| 21:17.12 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r26999 10Cartographer_Fishing/ (Cartographer_Fishing.toc addon.lua): Cartographer_Fishing: more talismonger code DRYCODE use at your own risk |
| 21:17.14 | PogoTribal | Hmm... Premeditation is "ok" |
| 21:19.13 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r27000 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Removed Heavy Netherweave Net pattern from Cenarion Circle rep, as it seems it's been removed from the game. |
| 21:19.14 | kagaro|work | Pogo premed + shadowstep |
| 21:20.16 | KarlThePagan | any Erlang fans in the channel? |
| 21:20.22 | PogoTribal | meh, I'm not going that far |
| 21:20.27 | PogoTribal | SHadowstep is useless for Hemo |
| 21:20.58 | Tain | Today's Photoshop Phriday has a little too much cute in it, but it's funny. |
| 21:21.38 | kagaro|work | for hemo, yes it is |
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| 21:26.39 | PogoTribal | I'll probably forget to use it most times, too |
| 21:26.45 | NeoTron | actually shadowstep is always potentially useful. We've had a rogue shadowstep/sap a mob he normally couldn't get to |
| 21:26.59 | NeoTron | it's not just useful for a big backstab |
| 21:27.02 | PogoTribal | I don't see how he could normally not get to it |
| 21:27.10 | NeoTron | if the mob is in the back of a group |
| 21:27.15 | PogoTribal | Distract |
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| 21:27.30 | NeoTron | not always possible, especially if you have stealth detecting mobs |
| 21:27.42 | fatbrain | Is there a search feature in Cartographer? |
| 21:27.55 | PogoTribal | Well, they I guess you have to be really quick. |
| 21:27.56 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r27001 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua: BulkMail: (drycoded) Show item icons in the GUI. |
| 21:28.03 | PogoTribal | witht he shadowstep |
| 21:28.07 | NeoTron | not saying it's always useful, just pointing out another less common use case |
| 21:28.10 | NeoTron | yes you do |
| 21:28.15 | anenigma | Well, looks like Jerry prefers his way of doing combat ratings, rather than the new API I guess. |
| 21:28.17 | PogoTribal | But that's a really narrow situation for me to get it. |
| 21:29.04 | NeoTron | that is true |
| 21:29.13 | NeoTron | I'm not a rogue and never had one above level 22ish |
| 21:29.34 | NeoTron | my friend has a mutilate build I think |
| 21:29.36 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r27002 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Add Miniwing (31760) to Misc.Minipet.Normal |
| 21:29.39 | NeoTron | dunno what it means except it's daggers |
| 21:31.44 | chutwig|work | it craps combo points |
| 21:31.49 | chutwig|work | is what it does |
| 21:32.20 | vhaarr | nymbia: PT3 needs to validate arguments to its API. |
| 21:32.32 | vhaarr | nymbia: I tried passing in a table to ItemInSet, and got internal errors. |
| 21:32.41 | NeoTron | so basically a lot of finishing moves |
| 21:32.50 | nymbia | vhaarr: mmmm.. yeah it does. |
| 21:32.59 | PogoTribal | It's 60 energy though. |
| 21:33.12 | PogoTribal | That's a LOT of energy |
| 21:33.23 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 21:33.55 | anenigma | 60 energy for 2 or 3 combo points tho. so between 20 and 30 energy per combo point |
| 21:33.55 | PogoTribal | Basically an assassination build past 30 points is depending on a high crit rate to add combo points. |
| 21:34.16 | chutwig|work | yeah, but the point is to let you eviscerate or KS or whatever multiple times in the course of one fight |
| 21:34.22 | chutwig|work | getting kidney shot once is bad enough |
| 21:34.38 | anenigma | Keeping find weakness up is nice too, +10% damage |
| 21:34.51 | vhaarr | nymbia: I converted FuBar_ReagentFu to a PT3 tracker, sort of. |
| 21:35.00 | PogoTribal | Yeah you can do that, but I prefer Subtlety, it depends less on successful kidney shots. |
| 21:35.09 | PogoTribal | And the combo generation is better than Assassination. |
| 21:35.10 | chutwig|work | subtlety is a little too utility |
| 21:35.13 | nymbia | vhaarr: sort of? |
| 21:35.19 | chutwig|work | assassination is the asshole stabbin' tree |
| 21:35.27 | vhaarr | nymbia: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/FuBar_ReagentFu/Rabbit/ReagentFu.lua |
| 21:35.33 | vhaarr | nymbia: yeah well it just does predefined sets |
| 21:35.38 | PogoTribal | It is now. Improved Backstab used to be in Combat. |
| 21:35.39 | [dRaCo] | sword combat ftw |
| 21:36.07 | [dRaCo] | ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, s&d, ss, ss, ss, ss, ss, evicerate... |
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| 21:36.20 | PogoTribal | Assassination is combo point generation by crit, it's a finishing move focused build. |
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| 21:36.39 | PogoTribal | Subtlety is more survivability, more options at any given time. |
| 21:36.41 | chutwig|work | it's basically spiky pvp damage |
| 21:36.46 | chutwig|work | combat tends to be more consistent dps |
| 21:36.55 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:37.14 | PogoTribal | But if you don't have high AP and good daggers, Assassination is gimp. |
| 21:37.14 | chutwig|work | if you're looking for maximum simplification |
| 21:37.34 | vhaarr | hey ckk |
| 21:37.40 | vhaarr | nymbia: Take a look at see if I could optimized sometihng |
| 21:37.40 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
| 21:37.45 | PogoTribal | Combat is energy generation. |
| 21:37.51 | chutwig|work | top of the world |
| 21:37.54 | nymbia | vhaarr: sure |
| 21:37.59 | chutwig|work | tomcat is the worst thing ever devised |
| 21:38.20 | PogoTribal | If you want your moves to be available most of the time, go Combat, and it has steady high DPS that favors dagger/sword. |
| 21:38.40 | PogoTribal | And both Combat and Subtlety have good PvP talents. |
| 21:38.48 | PogoTribal | Assassination blows nuts for PvP skills. |
| 21:39.19 | chutwig|work | you don't consider imp ambush and seal fate pvp skills? |
| 21:39.43 | PogoTribal | Well, every tree has damage output that's favorable to PvP. |
| 21:39.47 | chutwig|work | i think of assassination as being like the glass cannon tree |
| 21:39.59 | PogoTribal | Since rogues use all PvE abilities for PvP just as well. |
| 21:40.06 | chutwig|work | where your damage is more unpredictable but when it comes it's going to be a lot |
| 21:40.41 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.57 | NeoTron | and it's rough for a rogue in a 5-man against two affliction warlocks dotting everything in sight :P |
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| 21:41.12 | chutwig|work | world of castercraft |
| 21:41.29 | [dRaCo] | mages aren't that hard |
| 21:41.33 | NeoTron | I love having a rogue |
| 21:41.33 | Tain | I do know there are Rogue skills I'd never touch for PvE, so I have to assume they are good for PvP. |
| 21:41.52 | NeoTron | especially with a druid tank having a guy to interrupt casting is worth tons |
| 21:42.00 | Tain | I don't PvP so I don't know how that all works out. |
| 21:42.08 | NeoTron | and I love druid tanks because they tank well and do pretty darn nice dps |
| 21:42.29 | chutwig|work | i wonder if the devs made druids so good to get caydiem to stop bothering them |
| 21:42.31 | chutwig|work | sort of like |
| 21:42.34 | nymbia | vhaarr: it looks pretty good as far as PT usage goes. |
| 21:42.43 | Tain | Druids are the cursed class of the game |
| 21:42.45 | NeoTron | they made druids work well |
| 21:42.46 | chutwig|work | "hey guys, i'll flash you if you don't make druids better" "OH GOD START BUFFING FERAL NOW NOW NOW" |
| 21:42.52 | NeoTron | but they are not better than warriors, only different |
| 21:42.52 | vhaarr | nymbia: coolio |
| 21:43.30 | NeoTron | if you read the class descriptions of past it stated that druids pretty much tank as well as a warrior or dps as wellas a rogue but are much less flexible |
| 21:43.34 | Tain | Druids have the wondrous ability to do many things well, much more than probably everyone else. Except no one cares. "Heal me, bitch." |
| 21:43.36 | NeoTron | today that is finally true, over 2 yrs later |
| 21:43.55 | NeoTron | the main benefit of a feral druid is that, given gear alone, they can either dps or tank |
| 21:44.00 | chutwig|work | just like paladins were supposed to be heavy damage dealers, except oh wait |
| 21:44.12 | NeoTron | a prot warrior cannot DPS nor can a dps warrior really tank |
| 21:44.19 | nymbia | Nargiddley: ping |
| 21:44.20 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r27003 10BigWigs/Karazhan/RomuloJulianne.lua: BigWigs: RomuloJulianne: deDE, thanks Schnuffer. |
| 21:44.24 | Tain | Ah I don't know, I don't remember Paladins ever being talked about as damage dealers. |
| 21:44.31 | chutwig|work | as far as being hybrids go druids have almost completely emasculated my class |
| 21:44.32 | Nargiddley | nymbia, pong |
| 21:44.33 | NeoTron | chutwig|work: they they were supposed to be the ezmode class :P |
| 21:44.38 | NeoTron | but they were supposed to be able to tank |
| 21:44.44 | chutwig|work | NeoTron: no, you seem to be getting that confused with being a warlock |
| 21:45.02 | nymbia | Nargiddley: baggins bank is freaking out when it gets to a certain height.. want a screenshot? |
| 21:45.04 | NeoTron | what they said about shaman vs paladin is true - they couldn't differentiate them as much as they wanted |
| 21:45.18 | Nargiddley | nymbia, sure |
| 21:45.22 | NeoTron | paladin is now more a tank class and shaman more of a dps class (melee or ranged, your choice) |
| 21:45.22 | Teshnor | uhm... question, if you have a target and your weapon proc trigger the same time as you lag, and switch target during this time, will the weapon proc show after you've changed target or before? :) |
| 21:45.34 | Tain | Shamans are always going to be a problem because of the way they implemented Totems. |
| 21:45.35 | Teshnor | I mean you switch target* |
| 21:45.38 | chutwig|work | unfortunately i never signed up for that when i made a paladin since i did it for the lore |
| 21:45.42 | NeoTron | chutwig|work: I meant easy to play, to learn |
| 21:45.45 | chutwig|work | and after a year or so i'm finally ready to give up |
| 21:45.53 | NeoTron | perhaps "simple class" would be more correct |
| 21:46.00 | chutwig|work | NeoTron: the barrier to entry for paladins is low but it is not a simple class by any stretch |
| 21:46.17 | chutwig|work | there's a reason the stereotype of the bad paladin exists and is so well-defined |
| 21:46.17 | NeoTron | chutwig|work: the warcraft RTS paladins were uber. unfortunately you can't have uber classes like taht in an mmo |
| 21:46.24 | NeoTron | I've had a level 60 paladin |
| 21:46.25 | Teshnor | what's the discussion? can someone enlighten me? :) |
| 21:46.28 | NeoTron | and I wasn't a bad one |
| 21:46.32 | Teshnor | I just came back from uber-idle mode |
| 21:46.36 | NeoTron | in fact it was my first 60 in retail |
| 21:46.39 | chutwig|work | how do you know you weren't a bad one |
| 21:46.56 | NeoTron | I was a healer |
| 21:46.57 | Teshnor | paladin vs. shaman? :) |
| 21:47.01 | Teshnor | or what? |
| 21:47.03 | NeoTron | and I was always one of the best helaers in my guild |
| 21:47.16 | NeoTron | druid / warrior, paladin / shaman, warlock nerfage |
| 21:47.18 | chutwig|work | the bad ones are the ones who hit DS, run into a bunch of horde, and consecrate |
| 21:47.19 | NeoTron | the usual :) |
| 21:47.29 | chutwig|work | because they think doing so makes a difference in some way |
| 21:47.31 | NeoTron | I'm not much of a pvper but alas |
| 21:47.40 | nymbia | Nargiddley: http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/9873/wowscrnshot020207144555hh1.jpg |
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| 21:47.43 | NeoTron | consecrate is the main power of the paladin tank today |
| 21:47.50 | NeoTron | it's highly superior for aoe tanking |
| 21:47.58 | nymbia | Nargiddley: it works fine until that bottom row is added |
| 21:48.08 | Fin | my god this is frustrating |
| 21:48.09 | Fin | http://www.zanorg.com/prodperso/jeuxchiants/doublejeu.htm |
| 21:48.23 | Nargiddley | optimize layout on or off ? |
| 21:48.30 | PogoTribal | If I was combat I'd be using my Thrash Blade in my offhand. |
| 21:48.38 | chutwig|work | paladins are easy to level with, if slow, but you really have to think hard about how to play the class well |
| 21:48.39 | Chosi | nymbia: i want that for my bagnon! |
| 21:48.40 | Teshnor | nymbia: What inventory addon is that? |
| 21:48.41 | nymbia | Nargiddley: on |
| 21:48.42 | Chosi | *onebag |
| 21:48.53 | Chosi | where can i get it? |
| 21:48.54 | Chosi | gimmeh! |
| 21:48.54 | Chosi | :> |
| 21:48.56 | chutwig|work | the problem mostly arises from the fact that it's fundamentally a melee class that you're not supposed to play like one |
| 21:48.59 | NeoTron | chutwig|work: that is frankly true with every class |
| 21:49.12 | nymbia | Chosi: Teshnor: Baggins ;) |
| 21:49.21 | Chosi | giiiief |
| 21:49.21 | chutwig|work | NeoTron: i think you will find that paladins are particularly bad |
| 21:49.21 | NeoTron | I've gone on ZG raids in highly inferior gear and outdpsed other much better geared (bwl level) players |
| 21:49.23 | Chosi | nice thanks |
| 21:49.32 | NeoTron | it's not because I'm uber (class or skill) but because I don't suck :P |
| 21:49.36 | chutwig|work | there is a larger range between a bad paladin and a good paladin |
| 21:49.38 | Teshnor | nymbia: Hrm ok... |
| 21:49.40 | NeoTron | well |
| 21:49.42 | chutwig|work | and there are a whole lot of bad paladins |
| 21:49.46 | chutwig|work | a LOT |
| 21:49.51 | Teshnor | brb |
| 21:49.55 | Tain | That's every class. |
| 21:50.09 | NeoTron | I've done UBRS with a holy paladin, a shadow priest and myself playing a feral druid (in blue/green healing gear). |
| 21:50.11 | chutwig|work | my favorite was this draenei paladin i ran into while levelling on bloodmyst |
| 21:50.44 | NeoTron | the paladin got in because he was holy spec |
| 21:50.44 | chutwig|work | he didn't heal himself, ever |
| 21:50.44 | Tain | Paladins also don't get helped by the fact that a lot of people don't know what they are supposed to do well, so they tell them to stand there and heal. |
| 21:50.44 | chutwig|work | didn't even know how to use divine protection |
| 21:50.44 | NeoTron | turns out he'd only heal at all if he was <40% health himself |
| 21:50.44 | chutwig|work | and kept calling out for heals from me |
| 21:50.44 | chutwig|work | asking me, a mage, to heal him, a paladin |
| 21:50.45 | Nargiddley | nymbia, i think i know what the problem will be, i'll test it |
| 21:50.48 | NeoTron | in the end he had healed about 4% and I had healed about 75% (100% feral, no resto) |
| 21:50.56 | NeoTron | so yeah theer aer really really bad paladins |
| 21:51.03 | nymbia | Nargiddley: awesome, thanks. :) |
| 21:51.10 | chutwig|work | yeah, i have GoN, but why would i use it on somebody who's got dedicated healing spells |
| 21:51.30 | NeoTron | chutwig|work: that must take the price of stupidity |
| 21:51.40 | NeoTron | at least my lamadin healed himself |
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| 21:51.42 | chutwig|work | NeoTron: this isn't the first one i've run into |
| 21:51.51 | NeoTron | although so late that I fell compelled to heal him anyway |
| 21:51.58 | chutwig|work | i can honestly say i've never run into any other hybrid that didn't know how to heal at least themselves |
| 21:52.02 | NeoTron | but I've run into really bad players of all classes |
| 21:52.09 | chutwig|work | but for some reason with paladins it happens a lot |
| 21:52.11 | Tain | The game is full of bad players. I put them out of my mind since it is easier to simply remember the good ones. |
| 21:52.16 | NeoTron | they feel like they are uber dps |
| 21:52.18 | chutwig|work | TIME TO GO HOME |
| 21:52.24 | chutwig|work | awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay |
| 21:52.33 | NeoTron | I've had paladins attempt to DPS in MC and BWL only to not even be seen in the top 20, or anywhere near |
| 21:52.58 | NeoTron | and the guy had rank 14 pvp gear too. heh |
| 21:53.00 | NeoTron | man he sucked |
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| 21:56.04 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley * r27004 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Fix for bag layout breaking at large sizes (hopefully) |
| 21:56.09 | Nargiddley | nymbia, try that |
| 21:56.18 | nymbia | Nargiddley: ok |
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| 21:59.04 | Mikma | assplode! |
| 21:59.31 | nymbia | Nargiddley: working great, thanks :) |
| 21:59.38 | durcyn | kagaro|work: ping |
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| 22:11.46 | Herio | alright, gentlemen... |
| 22:11.54 | Herio | how do we kill superman? |
| 22:12.00 | Teshnor | do anyone know that when a SELFKILLOTHER event triggers you still have a target= |
| 22:12.01 | Teshnor | ? |
| 22:12.14 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27005 10BigWigs/Karazhan/RomuloJulianne.lua: |
| 22:12.14 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Karazhan: |
| 22:12.14 | CIA-17 | - RomuloJulianne, remove cmd in deDE |
| 22:12.34 | Teshnor | because I can't seem to get any info out of UnitLevel("target") :/ |
| 22:16.27 | Teshnor | I was wrong, I do get info out of it at the event... Something else screwing it up :/ |
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| 22:21.04 | Eternally777 | Is there a way to query the number of sockets an item has and their colors? |
| 22:22.07 | CIA-17 | 03ag * r27006 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_GroupClass.lua: |
| 22:22.07 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 22:22.07 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:23.31 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: ah, kek, my fault for being in a hurry. |
| 22:23.56 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 22:24.02 | Funkeh` | you got my back i got yours |
| 22:27.17 | vid` | man |
| 22:27.31 | vid` | i cant figure out why i get squares around icon in autobar |
| 22:27.38 | vid` | when i hover mouse over it |
| 22:27.40 | vid` | drives me nuts |
| 22:27.47 | vid` | havent been able to fix it :( |
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| 22:28.04 | PogoTribal | That's the cue to quit life. |
| 22:28.12 | vid` | i know |
| 22:28.26 | PogoTribal | 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'ShapeshiftButton1:Show()'. |
| 22:28.27 | PogoTribal | <in C code>: in function `Show' |
| 22:28.34 | vid` | on the plus side |
| 22:28.39 | PogoTribal | I've been getting that x100 ine very battle I'm in. |
| 22:28.43 | vid` | my cooldowns work in autobar and trinketmenu again |
| 22:28.52 | vid` | cause i switched from omnicc to cooldowncount |
| 22:29.14 | NeoTron | and heck :se noai |
| 22:29.14 | NeoTron | a:se ai |
| 22:29.21 | NeoTron | err. right |
| 22:30.12 | Kirkburn|afk | I love my Miniwing pet =) |
| 22:30.16 | Herio | why would an addon author not put a "hide plugin" option in thier fubar plugin options? |
| 22:30.21 | Herio | just don't make sense =( |
| 22:30.25 | Mikma | Kirkburn|afk: SS or it didn't happen |
| 22:30.37 | PogoTribal | You can hide a plugin on FuBar through FuBar |
| 22:30.38 | chutwig | Herio: they most likely have a nefarious hidden agenda against you |
| 22:30.39 | Kirkburn|afk | It's not hard to get! |
| 22:30.52 | Herio | CLEARLY |
| 22:30.54 | nymbia | that damn escort lol |
| 22:30.54 | PogoTribal | It's kind of redundant to even have Hide Plugin in the actual mod. |
| 22:31.06 | Kirkburn|afk | nymbia, indeededly :P Thanks for adding it :) |
| 22:31.10 | Herio | theys beh stealinz my minimap realzez 'tate |
| 22:31.13 | nymbia | :D |
| 22:31.29 | Tain | Oh man we're heading for kids in the hospital with cardiac arrest. Dance Dance Revolution for the Wii that uses the dance pad, Wiimote and Nunchuck controllers simultaneously. |
| 22:31.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Cutest lil' birdie |
| 22:31.57 | Kirkburn|afk | You sure about the "kids" part, Tain? |
| 22:31.57 | Mikma | Kirkburn|afk: SS :P |
| 22:31.59 | nymbia | Tain: oh my. |
| 22:32.05 | Tain | http://wii.ign.com/articles/760/760878p1.html |
| 22:32.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Mikma, kk, l8r :) |
| 22:32.29 | Mikma | Kirkburn|afk: liek, now!!!11 |
| 22:32.33 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm expecting more fathers trying to impress their sons to have that problem :P |
| 22:32.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Mikma, leik yeah but no but yeah but NO. |
| 22:33.05 | NightHawkTheSane | I forsee more lawsuits about broken televisions |
| 22:33.15 | NightHawkTheSane | possibly including broken appendages |
| 22:34.06 | PogoTribal | That goes against everything I want during video game time. |
| 22:34.17 | PogoTribal | I.e. I like to sit on my ass and eat chips. |
| 22:34.21 | Tain | They haven't shown any footage of someone playing yet though. I want to see exactly how that will all work. I suspect it will be sensory and cardiac overload. |
| 22:35.06 | Mikma | Kirkburn|afk: http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.31760#14731 nujb |
| 22:35.49 | Kirkburn|afk | You screenshotted MY miniwing? You petophile! |
| 22:35.50 | evl | how do I strip compost from an addon? |
| 22:36.01 | Herio | is metrognome named after the quest giver in blade's edge or the other way around? >.> |
| 22:36.15 | Kirkburn|afk | I venture: neither |
| 22:36.18 | Mikma | evl: remove all that is needed by compost ;) |
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| 22:37.52 | evl | I found: local splitText = Compost:Acquire(strsplit("/", lineText)) |
| 22:37.58 | evl | but I don't know what compost does :P |
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| 22:38.04 | ckknight | evl: complex process, but what you'd do is make a localized form of compost inside the addon |
| 22:38.10 | ckknight | see the Coding Tips for details |
| 22:38.25 | evl | is compost still needed? |
| 22:38.48 | ckknight | yes and no |
| 22:39.00 | ckknight | I'd say a localized form the handles compost-style tasks is needed. |
| 22:39.11 | evl | it only appears once |
| 22:39.15 | evl | in the line i pasted |
| 22:39.31 | ckknight | alright |
| 22:39.36 | ckknight | and doesn't delete? |
| 22:39.46 | vhaarr | that just means splitText = {strsplit(...)} |
| 22:39.49 | Teshnor | woohoo! |
| 22:39.50 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:39.51 | Teshnor | I managed :D |
| 22:39.52 | ckknight | pretty much. |
| 22:40.50 | Antiarc|Work | "Script memory is now tracked on a per-addon basis. You can call UpdateAddOnMemoryUse() to calculate the current memory usage of all addons, and then call GetAddOnMemoryUse(index or "name") to query an addon's memory use (in K) " |
| 22:40.51 | Antiarc|Work | :O |
| 22:41.14 | ckknight | yep. |
| 22:41.22 | ckknight | alright, gonna head to class. |
| 22:41.31 | ckknight | cya all |
| 22:43.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Mikma, that screenshot doesn't do Miniwing justice. The cuteness is far too understated :P |
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| 22:46.04 | durcyn | Kirkburn|afk: still, Murky > Miniwing. |
| 22:46.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Only if I had one :P I must remember to send off my form |
| 22:46.56 | Kirkburn|afk | But then Netherwhelp probably > Murky ;) |
| 22:46.58 | durcyn | i do need a pink murloc egg to match my blue one though :/ |
| 22:49.08 | durcyn | oh blah, EU only. |
| 22:51.11 | NeoTron | anyone else's pets get stuck in the bank never to leave again? |
| 22:51.50 | Mikma | no, but my white kittens get unbinded when i logout :D |
| 22:51.53 | Mikma | isn't that sweet? |
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| 22:53.22 | durcyn | ~seen ckknight |
| 22:53.54 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@198.199.136.119> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12m 23s ago, saying: 'cya all'. |
| 22:53.54 | Arrowmaster | my jubling, rat, flame spirit, and ozzling have been in my bank for a very long time now |
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| 22:55.37 | Pneumatus | Hyakiss boss mod appears to work nice :) |
| 22:56.51 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: is hyakiss a boss or the name of a boss mod? :P |
| 22:57.21 | Pneumatus | the name of a boss, |
| 22:57.27 | Pneumatus | BigWigs is the mod :) |
| 22:57.33 | NeoTron | karazhan? |
| 22:57.35 | Pneumatus | yeh |
| 22:57.43 | Pneumatus | rare spawn beast boss |
| 22:57.50 | NeoTron | ah |
| 22:57.55 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley 07alpha * r27007 10WaterfallLib/WaterfallLib/ (Waterfall-0.1/Waterfall-0.1.lua WaterfallLib.toc): WaterfallLib: Initial support for fully running off an AceOptions table |
| 22:57.57 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley * r27008 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Waterfall now fully running off AceOptions table |
| 22:58.00 | NeoTron | a raid instance with a rare boss? what are they thinking? |
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| 22:59.02 | Pneumatus | does anyone know if more than 1 of the rare spawn beast bosses spawn on any 1 run? |
| 23:00.38 | durcyn | NeoTron: think of it like the zg edge of madness, you can get one but not all in one copy |
| 23:00.45 | NeoTron | ah |
| 23:00.51 | NeoTron | so there's always one |
| 23:00.56 | NeoTron | that's a bit different then |
| 23:01.45 | Nargiddley | [Ammo], ping |
| 23:02.54 | Pneumatus | any idea if the other beasts will despawn once you killed the rare spawn of the week? |
| 23:03.54 | NeoTron | my guild still only have 4 ppl attuned so far |
| 23:04.44 | Pneumatus | heh, we're up to 19 i think now |
| 23:05.14 | NeoTron | guild as a whole is levelling as snails |
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| 23:05.51 | winkiller | FFS, locks can train at each level and rogues only at 61,62,64,66,68,69,70 :( |
| 23:05.52 | NeoTron | never raided with the guild before but as a reference they never got nefarian down (and this guild was created basically at retail release) |
| 23:06.05 | NeoTron | winkiller: yes I'm so happy I went to train a new CURSE OF WEAKNESS |
| 23:06.13 | NeoTron | because it's such a GOOD SPELL that I never used. ;-) |
| 23:06.31 | winkiller | I came to org JUST to train |
| 23:06.34 | winkiller | and it sucks :( |
| 23:07.06 | NeoTron | btw be glad you don't hve to go every level |
| 23:07.13 | NeoTron | most of the time it wasn't worth it |
| 23:07.23 | winkiller | you also dont have to |
| 23:07.26 | NeoTron | the last 3 levels though.. yowza |
| 23:07.32 | winkiller | but if you go, you got iz |
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| 23:08.01 | NeoTron | but it's not a big problem really. just hearth back to shattrah |
| 23:08.13 | winkiller | my hearth is org |
| 23:08.24 | NeoTron | then change it |
| 23:08.42 | NeoTron | from shattrah you can get to any capital so it's the natural place to bind a |
| 23:08.43 | winkiller | you got a point. I forgot the org portal |
| 23:08.49 | winkiller | what? cool |
| 23:09.01 | winkiller | I've only been there fotr like 10mins |
| 23:09.01 | durcyn | open your eyes =P |
| 23:09.03 | NeoTron | there are portals theer to each capital |
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| 23:09.09 | NeoTron | in the very center area |
| 23:09.12 | winkiller | only saw org one. cool, thanks |
| 23:09.32 | NeoTron | including the BE/draenei ones which for some reason they placed in their own little section |
| 23:09.37 | NeoTron | and np |
| 23:09.46 | winkiller | ah. now I remember |
| 23:09.51 | winkiller | I saw the Silvermoon one. |
| 23:09.56 | winkiller | yeah, yeah. |
| 23:10.03 | winkiller | my head is spinning all day :/ |
| 23:10.38 | Wobin | like a record baby right round right round? |
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| 23:11.20 | durcyn | Wobin: song is now stuck in my head. hate you. |
| 23:11.33 | Kinkx | Anyone know if there is a good addon to track time left when you can transmute etc? |
| 23:11.33 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 23:12.02 | NeoTron | Kinkx: your profession pane? :P |
| 23:12.07 | Varhalla | hehe |
| 23:12.14 | NeoTron | did they change it from one global transmute timer? |
| 23:12.17 | durcyn | FuBar_tcgTradeSkills will do it, but needs updates for BC stuff |
| 23:12.47 | Varhalla | anyone know of a new casting bar? I've kinda been updating my UI and my old one is there, and kinda, meh |
| 23:13.02 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm a fan of the profession pane myself. Works nicely. |
| 23:13.14 | NeoTron | Varhalla: I just use the cast bar on my x perl unit frames |
| 23:13.31 | Varhalla | i have that aswell, but its beside the portrait isnt it? |
| 23:13.35 | NeoTron | yep |
| 23:13.46 | NeoTron | which I have in a good central location where I can see it |
| 23:13.50 | Varhalla | is there anyway i can make that bigger and seperate from the side of the portrait |
| 23:14.02 | NeoTron | likewise I have target/pet/target's target frames there |
| 23:14.04 | Kinkx | Yea, but sometimes I forget about it, and it would ideal to get a notice when it just runs out so can transmute as soon as possible |
| 23:14.28 | NeoTron | Kinkx: what you would like is some sort of notification that the transmute ran out / is up |
| 23:14.29 | Wobin | oh man |
| 23:14.38 | Wobin | it stuns me sometimes just -how- many ace addons there are =\ |
| 23:14.39 | NeoTron | like a big orange blob in the middle of the screen... :-P |
| 23:14.45 | Varhalla | kinkx, this isnt a mod, but i have sticky notes all over my monitor about stuff to keep me reminded of stuff |
| 23:14.53 | NeoTron | Varhalla: there are cast bar mods |
| 23:14.53 | Varhalla | hehe |
| 23:15.10 | NeoTron | but I ended up just using the unit frames ones |
| 23:15.21 | Varhalla | i seen one on the photek ui a couple months ago, i just cant seem to find it |
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| 23:15.31 | Kinkx | NeoTron - I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny or something, but thats not what i'm looking for :) |
| 23:15.32 | Varhalla | some say its ECB, but i have no idea what that abbreviates |
| 23:15.52 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r27009 10Decursive/localization.kr.lua: |
| 23:15.52 | CIA-17 | Decursive: |
| 23:15.52 | CIA-17 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 23:15.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Varhalla: eCastingBar |
| 23:15.59 | NightHawkTheSane | it's on wowi. I use it, it's good. |
| 23:16.00 | Varhalla | oRLY? |
| 23:16.34 | Varhalla | much appreciated |
| 23:16.42 | NeoTron | I looked at it, but at the same time as I installed xperl. it's customizable |
| 23:16.46 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r27010 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2.lua: |
| 23:16.46 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 23:16.47 | CIA-17 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 23:17.06 | Wobin | <M |
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| 23:17.10 | Wobin | er |
| 23:17.13 | Wobin | >< |
| 23:17.15 | Wobin | Babble-Fish =P |
| 23:17.19 | Varhalla | hehe |
| 23:17.29 | NightHawkTheSane | heheh |
| 23:17.33 | Varhalla | well i like the look x-perl gives me, but the castbar isnt my cup of tea |
| 23:17.38 | Wobin | and fenlis is a localising machine =P |
| 23:17.50 | Wobin | even though he's irritated a lot of people =P |
| 23:18.17 | Wobin | it's good to see people doing that |
| 23:18.31 | break19 | here fishy fishy |
| 23:19.11 | Varhalla | anyone here play a mage as there main? |
| 23:21.23 | break19 | i dont even have a mage alt, much less a main |
| 23:21.39 | Varhalla | hehe |
| 23:21.41 | Pneumatus | i have a level 1 mage bank alt, does that count? |
| 23:21.45 | break19 | heh |
| 23:21.46 | Varhalla | hehe |
| 23:21.57 | Pneumatus | mage bank alts are 4tw because of that ice shield thingy |
| 23:22.03 | Varhalla | LOL |
| 23:23.09 | Varhalla | lets talk.....computers, anyone else into building their own? |
| 23:23.19 | Antiarc|Work | Have been for years. |
| 23:23.25 | Kemayo | Varhalla: oCB (or CBRipoff, which is the same but on the SVN) |
| 23:23.40 | Amadeo | kergoth: I don't seem to be getting the error anymore, so I guess it was fixed in one of the updates :P |
| 23:23.51 | Pneumatus | who's in charge of dishing out SVN accounts btw? |
| 23:24.02 | Amadeo | Kemayo: The escape-log thing is the best addition ever! |
| 23:24.33 | Varhalla | Antiarc: you satsified with the computer you have now? as far as its performance in WoW? |
| 23:24.46 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, can't complain |
| 23:25.19 | Antiarc|Work | AMD X2 3800+, 2GB of Corsair DDR 3200, Geforce 7600GT, SATA/150, though not RAID, I'm afraid. |
| 23:25.20 | Varhalla | Mind if I ask what your video settings are at? and the average FPS, out in the open, or in raids/dungeons |
| 23:25.22 | Amadeo | I'm unsatisfied with mine, so if anyone wants to give me one, I'm all for it! |
| 23:26.11 | Antiarc|Work | Well, the biggest factor in my performance is the fact that I run at 1920x1200, so I really put a strain on the card's fillrate, but I can get 40-70 FPS most everywhere, except where there are a ton of spell effects going off |
| 23:26.15 | Pneumatus | nearly identical Antiarc|Work, except i have an Radeon X800 GRi :) |
| 23:26.17 | Antiarc|Work | And that's generally just fillrate choking. |
| 23:26.30 | Pneumatus | *GTi |
| 23:26.42 | Antiarc|Work | I run my video settings on the high end, though without FSAA, since that just slaughters performance at that resolution. |
| 23:27.39 | Antiarc|Work | Ironforge is usually mid-20s FPSwise, and I get mid-teens in the suppression room, but then, nobody gets good performance in the suppression room. |
| 23:27.56 | Varhalla | Yeah, I've built about 4 or 5 computers, all AMD processors, all Corsair ram, and all radeon cards, and just recently i purchased a 7600, and it didnt last me two months |
| 23:28.13 | Antiarc|Work | 7600 vanilla or GT? |
| 23:28.24 | Varhalla | hold on lemme grab it and check |
| 23:29.51 | Varhalla | errr, rather, a nx6800, with msi as the manufacture i suppose |
| 23:29.51 | PogoTribal | Sometimes hardware just craps out. |
| 23:29.57 | Varhalla | i couldnt find the invoice |
| 23:30.04 | Varhalla | thas what i was thinking |
| 23:30.17 | Varhalla | on my next rig, i was going to give Nvidia another shot with a 7900 |
| 23:31.23 | Antiarc|Work | I've been really happy with nvidia's stuff lately. |
| 23:32.19 | CIA-17 | 03teshnor * r27011 10FuBar_WindFuryFu/ (4 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 23:32.19 | CIA-17 | FuBar_WindFuryFu: |
| 23:32.19 | CIA-17 | - Added tracking of target name and level to statistics (Beware: This will reset all of your current stats) |
| 23:32.20 | CIA-17 | - Added option (is enabled per default) to count the first hit and add it to total damage (does not add or remove retroactively) |
| 23:32.20 | CIA-17 | - Added library dependency: Babble-Class-2.2 |
| 23:32.21 | CIA-17 | - Dual Windfury should now be shown correct (Will occur if you got two windfury attacks at the same time will dual-wielding) |
| 23:32.26 | CIA-17 | - Fixed bug where WindFuryFu though you where in dual-wield mode when you weren't |
| 23:34.13 | Varhalla | well, in being under the budget i put on myself, I got a sli comp motherboard, and also comp with fx and x2 processors, but for the time being im just going to put a 3200+ in it, 64bit of course |
| 23:34.28 | Varhalla | do you have any suggestions on brands of motherboards? |
| 23:34.42 | Pneumatus | i love asus |
| 23:34.47 | break19 | apple :P |
| 23:34.55 | Antiarc|Work | I think I'm running an Abit or Asus at the moment |
| 23:34.58 | Antiarc|Work | I don't exactly remember :P |
| 23:35.31 | Pneumatus | msi for budget, acer for premium |
| 23:35.36 | Pneumatus | (personally) |
| 23:35.57 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley 07alpha * r27012 10WaterfallLib/WaterfallLib/Waterfall-0.1/Waterfall-0.1.lua: WaterfallLib: AceOptions color type support added |
| 23:35.59 | Varhalla | ive had msi, and it is great for budget and friends, who couldnt tell the difference |
| 23:36.01 | Antiarc|Work | I'm all about the ECS budget boards |
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| 23:36.09 | break19 | but, for a non smart-ass response, in my pc days I usually had pretty good results with DFI stuff, excellent pricing, and pretty good boards overall |
| 23:36.24 | Varhalla | i got 4 msi boards out of the 5 i built, then i built my fathers with an asus board, and its going great |
| 23:36.34 | Varhalla | yeah, i was gonna go w/ a DFI on my new one |
| 23:36.56 | Saroz | What damagemeters do you guys use in here? |
| 23:36.59 | break19 | my old PC used a DFI board, so did my wife |
| 23:37.21 | Varhalla | i just got the one from curse, called damagemeters |
| 23:37.22 | Varhalla | lol |
| 23:37.35 | break19 | i use swstats |
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| 23:37.46 | Saroz | SW stats sucks too much data |
| 23:38.11 | NeoTron | how so? |
| 23:38.15 | break19 | Saroz: perhaps, but you asked |
| 23:38.20 | Saroz | aye :p |
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| 23:39.18 | Varhalla | so, for those who are computer savy, do you think a rig with 3200+, 2gb ddr400 corsair, and a 7900 run wow @ 1280x1024 pretty nicely? |
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| 23:39.26 | Teshnor | how often do files.wowace.com update? |
| 23:39.28 | break19 | its the reason I use it... damagemeters doesnt give as much info, as easily as swstats.. the look is also much better, and completely configureable, whereas damagemeters is.. well.. not |
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| 23:39.51 | Teshnor | I recommend Recap |
| 23:39.53 | Teshnor | it rocks |
| 23:39.57 | Teshnor | for gathering stats that is |
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| 23:40.16 | break19 | Varhalla: it should.. if it doesnt, blame microsoft. :p |
| 23:40.38 | Varhalla | hehe |
| 23:40.44 | NeoTron | is recap actually good nowadays? and maintained? |
| 23:40.52 | NeoTron | and synced? |
| 23:40.57 | Teshnor | Varhalla: I run wow nicely in 1280x1024 in Vista with a setup that isn't that good :) |
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| 23:41.15 | Teshnor | NeoTron: Yep... Maintained by Hawksy |
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| 23:41.51 | Varhalla | ahhh, vista, is it worth looking into? |
| 23:41.54 | Saroz | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/4825/minnastats/ looks interesting |
| 23:42.17 | Feldia | a guild mate has been using that saroz |
| 23:42.20 | Feldia | seems to work rather well |
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| 23:42.40 | Varhalla | i'm thinking about giving up on my custom ui stuff, and going back to default with DHUD, lol |
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| 23:43.12 | NeoTron | Varhalla: O |
| 23:43.34 | NeoTron | s/O/I'd quit WoW before doing that... Scary concept./ |
| 23:43.47 | Varhalla | lol |
| 23:43.50 | _neuron_ | that's just purl abuse NeoTron :P |
| 23:44.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Teshnor: does recap actually give an accurate breakdown of combat stats? properly separating out dodge/miss/parry/block/etc? |
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| 23:45.05 | Varhalla | so, apperntly you have to relog in order for skinner gradient change to update |
| 23:45.31 | NightHawkTheSane | That always annoys me when combat log analysers just lump avoidance together and call it good. It's worthless like that. |
| 23:46.16 | NeoTron | _neuron_: hehe |
| 23:46.24 | _neuron_ | hm /me really likes the look of MinnaStats, gonna try that |
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| 23:47.40 | NeoTron | _neuron_: one drawback is that there's a poodle on the icon |
| 23:47.57 | _neuron_ | to quote the author: |
| 23:47.57 | _neuron_ | I appreciate that there are very little instructions for this mod, but the one instruction there is (/mstats help) clearly shows the commands "dog" and "nodog" for the few sick demented little monkeys that are unable to appreciate the presence of such a beautiful creature on their screen. |
| 23:48.48 | kergoth | minnastats is quite nice, adn quite light, but it has bugs |
| 23:48.54 | NeoTron | I don't midn dogs. I mind poodles |
| 23:48.57 | _neuron_ | like what kergoth ? |
| 23:48.58 | NeoTron | they are not real dogs :P |
| 23:49.01 | _neuron_ | hehe |
| 23:49.02 | Teshnor | NightHawkTheSane: What I know, yes :) |
| 23:49.13 | kergoth | occasionally gets to a point where it stops gathering fights in the fight list, like it gets so much that it just cant handle it anymore, and cant scroll down past like 50 even though theres many more |
| 23:49.30 | kergoth | dont know what cauess it, but the last 3 times it happened i had to wipe my minnastats savedvars |
| 23:49.49 | _neuron_ | did you mention it to the author? :P |
| 23:49.55 | NeoTron | it seems like it is work in progress |
| 23:50.11 | break19 | NeoTron: isnt everything? otherwise there'd never be updates |
| 23:50.15 | NeoTron | well |
| 23:50.23 | Teshnor | good thing with recap is that you can reset and/or pause at anytime |
| 23:50.27 | NeoTron | it seems like it doesn't record data yet, doesn't have pet support etc |
| 23:50.46 | Teshnor | and there's a light mode in recap as well |
| 23:50.50 | Teshnor | that doesn't mine as much data |
| 23:52.32 | Ominous | ~seen tebbub |
| 23:53.02 | purl | Ominous: i haven't seen 'tebbub' |
| 23:53.03 | Ominous | ~seen tekkub |
| 23:53.08 | purl | tekkub is currently on #wowace (21h 59m 45s) #wowwiki (21h 59m 45s). Has said a total of 8 messages. Is idling for 5h 4m 22s, last said: 'anyway off I goes to do RL shit'. |
| 23:53.08 | Ominous | oops |
| 23:53.08 | Varhalla | lol |
| 23:53.08 | kergoth | http://covenant.kergoth.com/images/smokey/Smokey_20016.jpg :) |
| 23:53.13 | _neuron_ | kergoth, aww, he's just sitting there with his drinks |
| 23:53.13 | _neuron_ | :p |
| 23:53.17 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:53.53 | kergoth | action shot - http://covenant.kergoth.com/images/smokey/Smokey_20012.jpg :P |
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| 23:54.04 | Varhalla | anyone have a favorite quest tracker, and anyone know of a mod that shows the persons name/level/guild where your cursor is? |
| 23:54.15 | _neuron_ | haha |
| 23:54.15 | Varhalla | awww |
| 23:54.16 | Varhalla | lol |
| 23:54.36 | _neuron_ | my favorite quest tracker is the one I wrote :P |
| 23:54.38 | Kemayo | Varhalla: I like FuBar_QuestsFu. (But I wrote it, so I would say that.) |
| 23:54.43 | ckknight | hey all |
| 23:54.43 | _neuron_ | haha |
| 23:54.44 | _neuron_ | <3 |
| 23:54.51 | kergoth | lol |
| 23:54.51 | _neuron_ | hey ckknight |
| 23:54.52 | ckknight | I like QuestsFu |
| 23:54.55 | Kemayo | _neuron_: For proper shameless shilling you have to mention the name. :D |
| 23:55.00 | Varhalla | i have it, but does it show the quest like on the screen? |
| 23:55.05 | ckknight | yes |
| 23:55.08 | kergoth | nquestlog is nice, i /might/ switch to it from monkeyquest |
| 23:55.09 | ckknight | just detach the tooltip |
| 23:56.06 | _neuron_ | Kemayo, ;) |
| 23:56.07 | kergoth | though the monkeyquestlog is definately pertier than the nquestlog one |
| 23:56.07 | Teshnor | What's the best addon to be able to move all the standard frames? |
| 23:56.07 | ckknight | I don't like the look of nQuestLog |
| 23:56.07 | kergoth | yea, nquestlog could use some prettying up |
| 23:56.07 | Teshnor | I have MoveIT right now, but it's not compatible with SuperInspect :/ |
| 23:56.07 | ckknight | I like QuestsFu's log dealy |
| 23:56.07 | _neuron_ | yeah I know, my layout skills suck :P |
| 23:56.07 | _neuron_ | but it should be pretty customizable ;) |
| 23:56.07 | kergoth | you know what looks nice, haste's poison buyer dealy |
| 23:56.07 | kergoth | atropine |
| 23:56.07 | NeoTron | speaking of that does anyone know of a xp-trackign addon? |
| 23:56.07 | Feldia | lol nice name |
| 23:56.12 | haste | :3 |
| 23:56.18 | kergoth | NeoTron: what sort of tracking? |
| 23:56.20 | break19 | hm.. looking to port a titan plugin to fubar.. someone point me to where I should begin.. :) |
| 23:56.20 | Teshnor | NeoTron: What do you mean by xp-tracking? |
| 23:56.24 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:56.26 | NeoTron | i.e track xp / hour per session and level and various fun stuff |
| 23:56.27 | Teshnor | There are loads of xp addons ;) |
| 23:56.34 | NeoTron | and probably add in source of xp and such too |
| 23:56.35 | break19 | NeoTron: uhmm ExperienceFU |
| 23:56.38 | kergoth | i like xpbarnone myself, but fubar_experiencefu works well |
| 23:56.46 | NeoTron | break19: that shows me NOW not a history of all my levels |
| 23:57.04 | Teshnor | FuBar_FuXPFu is very nice as well |
| 23:57.05 | NeoTron | like a damage meter for xp |
| 23:57.12 | Ominous | anyone know what is currently in dev by blizzard |
| 23:57.15 | Teshnor | has a nice xp-bar that attaches itself to fubar |
| 23:57.27 | Kemayo | Ominous: Blizzard. |
| 23:57.28 | NeoTron | I don't want an xp bar or "xp per hour/level" for the current level |
| 23:57.31 | Teshnor | Ominous: Read on their website? :) |
| 23:57.33 | NeoTron | I have that |
| 23:57.43 | Teshnor | We know no more than you do then :) |
| 23:57.45 | kergoth | i've never herad ofa nything like that neo |
| 23:57.45 | Ominous | i have but under dev has expnsion stuff |
| 23:57.49 | kergoth | time to write it |
| 23:57.56 | kergoth | s/time/time for you/ |
| 23:57.57 | Varhalla | lol |
| 23:57.57 | kergoth | :P |
| 23:57.58 | Kemayo | Ominous: Check here: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63167579&sid=1 |
| 23:57.59 | NeoTron | it's completely useless, but fun |
| 23:58.12 | Ominous | ty |
| 23:58.28 | NeoTron | could add things like reputations gained for the level, gold made etc |
| 23:58.37 | break19 | sooo, no one has where I can find some good docs on writing simple fubar plugins? :) |
| 23:58.41 | NeoTron | dunno what it'd be used for other than teh funz |
| 23:58.57 | NeoTron | anyhow, heading home |
| 23:59.22 | PogoTribal | lol |
| 23:59.23 | PogoTribal | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=73388268&sid=1 |
| 23:59.30 | Kemayo | And now I vanish to have a chiropractor cause a disturbing number of loud cracks from my spine. |
| 23:59.43 | PogoTribal | A guild of 70s got the warrior Nef call and their paladins/rogues got turned into rage-users. |
| 23:59.50 | _neuron_ | enjoy Kemayo |
| 23:59.53 | PogoTribal | Permanently. |
