irclog2html for #wowace on 20070207

`00:03.46`	`NeoTron`	`is that a boss fight or just weird trash?`
`00:04.02`	`*** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@c-71-206-92-120.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)`
`00:04.12`	`shieldb`	`weird chess event`
`00:04.23`	`shieldb`	`you mind control one piece at a time and use the pieces to fight the other side's pieces`
`00:04.34`	`kergoth`	`hehe, fun`
`00:04.57`	`shieldb`	`it's real time (not turnbased) but all the abilities of the pieces are on 5-15 second cooldowns, so it isn't really hectic`
`00:05.33`	`shieldb`	`Plus if you fail it you don't die, the pieces reset in about 15-30 seconds and you try again`
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`00:05.34`	`mjc`	`so what'd whatshisname end up doing with his addons`
`00:05.40`	`mjc`	`since they're not on the svn anymore`
`00:05.42`	`mjc`	`kodewulf`
`00:06.16`	`kergoth`	`good question, wonder if he'll start a google code like everyone else`
`00:06.22`	`kergoth`	`saw thrae has tinytip & stuff over at his now`
`00:08.39`	`shieldb`	`hmm.. random cartographer question`
`00:08.57`	`shieldb`	`I saw that it allows you to set the default noteshare setting to a custom channel if you choose`
`00:09.05`	`kergoth`	`/media/crydee/Games/wow/Interface/AddOns$ svk mi -l /wow/\|grep ^/wow/\|wc -l`
`00:09.06`	`kergoth`	`20`
`00:09.07`	`kergoth`	`sheesh`
`00:09.13`	`kergoth`	`20 svk mirrors of wow related svn repositories now`
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`00:09.45`	`shieldb`	`if you use that and specify a channel does it filter the traffic entirely from it, or just the cartographer related stuff?`
`00:11.29`	`shieldb`	`i.e. if I've got a channel named "somechannel" that a bunch of friends and I use for chatting (we're not all in the same guild), can I use that channel for data sharing between us and still be able to chat in it, or would we need to set up something like "somedatachannel" to continue using it to chat?`
`00:11.56`	`Guillotine`	`if you're all using the addon, you can have the addon hide the data exchanged over that channel`
`00:12.10`	`Guillotine`	`but if somebody doesn't have the addon installed, theill see all the data`
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`00:12.24`	`shieldb`	`everyone is running cartographer, or if they aren't I don't care if it spams them :P`
`00:17.05`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27392 10BigWigs/Outland/Maulgar.lua:`
`00:17.06`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Outland/Maulgar:`
`00:17.06`	`CIA-17`	`- add flurry alert`
`00:17.06`	`CIA-17`	`- cleanup WW announce`
`00:19.02`	`CIA-17`	`03gamefaq * r27393 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:`
`00:19.02`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`00:19.02`	`CIA-17`	`- Karazhan deDE Update`
`00:22.41`	`Mikma`	`omg omg`
`00:22.57`	`Amadeo`	`omg!`
`00:23.23`	`Mikma`	`btw i hate awaynicks`
`00:23.46`	`Amadeo`	`I'm against them also`
`00:23.57`	`Amadeo`	`I like limits to nick length too`
`00:24.24`	`Tain`	`Damnit. I hate watching live TV and trying to fast forward through commercials.`
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`00:27.26`	`Guillotine`	`shieldb: are you doing a GuildMap type thing?`
`00:27.41`	`kergoth`	`he was asking about cart noteshare`
`00:27.59`	`anenigma`	`Tain: Mythtv ftw :P`
`00:29.59`	`ckknight`	`shieldb: if it's used as a data channel, you can't use it to chat in`
`00:30.05`	`ckknight`	`alright, off to my directed study`
`00:30.25`	`kergoth`	`[Ammo]: cant switch kenergy to aceevent very easily`
`00:30.56`	`kergoth`	`(from metro, that is)`
`00:31.00`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm`
`00:31.10`	`[Ammo]`	`not without some extra thought either?`
`00:31.11`	`kergoth`	`aceevent lets you schedule a repeating event right, even an existing one..`
`00:31.19`	`[Ammo]`	`yes`
`00:31.39`	`kergoth`	`lets say i want to change the repeat rate from 15 to 14, and the call to change the rate came in from the slash command after 8 seconds have elapsed`
`00:31.56`	`kergoth`	`you cant schedule a new repeating event with the new rate at that point, because itll then finish at 8+14, not at 8+6`
`00:32.13`	`[Ammo]`	`use a second schedule`
`00:32.14`	`[Ammo]`	`to reschedule`
`00:32.20`	`kergoth`	`you'd have to schedule a non-repeating event at +6 to restart the tick`
`00:32.23`	`kergoth`	`yea`
`00:32.25`	`[Ammo]`	`or just write your own onupdate`
`00:32.34`	`[Ammo]`	`it's tiny for kenergy anyway`
`00:32.42`	`[Ammo]`	`and very specific`
`00:33.02`	`kergoth`	`yea, the tick doesnt do much work, it only exists to have a sane reference point to start the candybar from, one taht we know corresponds to the ticks`
`00:33.39`	`kergoth`	`most of hte time i rely on the candy bar completion function for the tick, the bar starts itself over again`
`00:33.39`	`[Ammo]`	`oh and metro isn't very accurate`
`00:33.53`	`[Ammo]`	`it uses elapsed + arg1 of the onupdate`
`00:34.00`	`[Ammo]`	`which gets it out of sync the longer the tim eis`
`00:34.10`	`kergoth`	`i presume you'd be better off going by GetTime()?`
`00:34.19`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah check how I did it in candybar`
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`00:34.25`	`kergoth`	`cool`
`00:34.28`	`[Ammo]`	`mimic that`
`00:34.49`	`kergoth`	`i'll do that then, i'm annoyed at how many libs such a stupid little addon has atm anyway`
`00:34.52`	`kergoth`	`:P`
`00:34.54`	`[Ammo]`	`although the offset from metro in a short timer isn't that big`
`00:35.24`	`kergoth`	`well, with something like this, the last thing i need is for it to slowly deviate`
`00:35.33`	`Pneumatus`	`Run away little girl, run away!`
`00:35.46`	`[Ammo]`	`it deviates based on the length of the timer`
`00:35.51`	`kergoth`	`oh, i was gonna ask, how accurate is candybar? i mean, whats the limit on time difference where it can be seen, visually?`
`00:36.03`	`[Ammo]`	`that depends on your fps`
`00:36.07`	`[Ammo]`	`aka your onupdate :p`
`00:36.17`	`kergoth`	`ah right, makes sense`
`00:36.36`	`[Ammo]`	`it should be pretty damn accurate`
`00:36.55`	`[Ammo]`	`since it makes sure it's accurate every update`
`00:37.15`	`kergoth`	`you know, conceptually i like dongle's simplicity and all, but there's just so much it doesnt have`
`00:37.16`	`[Ammo]`	`deviation on my machine with shit fps from metrognome was close to a second on a 60 second bar`
`00:37.27`	`kergoth`	`wow, thats bad`
`00:37.46`	`shieldb`	`Pneumatus, Pop intervene tanks, pop intervene! :P`
`00:37.54`	`[Ammo]`	`but my machine sucks`
`00:38.01`	`[Ammo]`	`it gets better when you have better fps`
`00:38.07`	`[Ammo]`	`candybar and aceevent don't have that problem`
`00:38.10`	`mjc`	`who wrote talented?`
`00:38.12`	`kergoth`	`i had to send my video card in for rma, stuck on a backup pci-e card, 8-12fps :(`
`00:38.13`	`mjc`	`name says "jerry"`
`00:38.46`	`[Ammo]`	`well then he wrote it`
`00:38.51`	`[Ammo]`	`his name on forums is jerry too`
`00:39.01`	`kergoth`	`as annoying as it is, i expect i'm gonna end up having some of my addons ace2, some dongle, and some using no framework at all :\|`
`00:39.07`	`kergoth`	`boo for lacking consistency`
`00:40.34`	`[Ammo]`	`shrug`
`00:40.51`	`[Ammo]`	`it's really no big deal`
`00:41.32`	`kergoth`	`dongle doesnt have an equivalent of aceoptions, does it? that bugs me, i like the interface independent data format`
`00:42.38`	`[Ammo]`	`it doesn't`
`00:42.54`	`[Ammo]`	`waterfalllib is starting to mature nicely :)`
`00:43.11`	`[Ammo]`	`install it standalone, and doubleclick the oRA2 plugin :p`
`00:43.20`	`[Ammo]`	`it's secret, but there :)`
`00:43.21`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Kemayo, you about?`
`00:43.22`	`kergoth`	`nice`
`00:43.29`	`Kemayo`	`ZealotOnAStick: Sort of`
`00:43.32`	`kergoth`	`waterfall is sweet, no more 8 levels deep in a menu`
`00:43.35`	`[Ammo]`	`anyway, time for bed :)`
`00:43.44`	`kergoth`	`night`
`00:43.48`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah, just needs some more love visual wise`
`00:44.11`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Since today's update of QuestsFu, my quest tracker is scrunched together tiny, widthwise.`
`00:44.37`	`Birdemani[FH]`	`bigwig curator tossing an error?`
`00:45.15`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Ahh. If I add something that has an objective list, it expands to that.`
`00:45.32`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`But for a quest with no objective listing, it wants to linewrap for the width of the longest word in the title.`
`00:45.57`	`Mikma`	`Cartographer is nice to force for all guildmembers...`
`00:46.08`	`Mikma`	`only bad thing is they make stupid notes everywhere and share them to others`
`00:46.58`	`Kemayo`	`ZealotOnAStick: Weird.`
`00:47.09`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@198.199.136.119)`
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`00:47.46`	`ckknight`	`and the teacher wasn't there...`
`00:47.49`	`Kemayo`	`ZealotOnAStick: I haven't changed anything about how that's handled for a while. What happens if you disable wrapping of quest titles in the menu?`
`00:48.07`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: i whined moment ago:`
`00:48.07`	`Mikma`	`<0245> <Mikma> Cartographer is nice to force for all guildmembers...`
`00:48.07`	`Mikma`	`<0246> <Mikma> only bad thing is they make stupid notes everywhere and share them to others`
`00:48.29`	`ckknight`	`yea, that is true`
`00:48.48`	`ckknight`	`I think NoteShare may allow for filtering or so`
`00:48.51`	`Mikma`	`had to disable the generals in noteshare`
`00:49.04`	`Mikma`	`now i don't get the rares others send with all the extra crap :/`
`00:49.15`	`ckknight`	`such is life`
`00:49.17`	`deltron`	`spamato runs so much smoother now that I don't have 32K e-mails in my box :)`
`00:50.02`	`Mikma`	`well, atleast i get all the treasures and herbs on map`
`00:50.18`	`Mikma`	`that's all i want and i still can receive the single notes (i think?)`
`00:50.55`	`testify`	`Birdemani[FH] : go into the Outland\Maulgar.lua file and change BigWigsCurator to BigWigsMaulgar`
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`00:52.19`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Ahah. Thanks Kemayo.`
`00:52.32`	vid``	`ck: anyway to have guild member positions show on minimap also?`
`00:52.47`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I don't suppose there's some option to set background transparency on the quest tracker that I've missed somewhere?`
`00:52.53`	vid`	`which tracker`
`00:52.59`	`ckknight`	vid``: I could, but it'd be both complicated and costly, I frankly don't see a need :-P
`00:53.05`	vid`	`ah k just wondering`
`00:53.06`	`ckknight`	`it could be done, though`
`00:53.16`	`Pneumatus`	`big bad wolf down :<`
`00:53.23`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r27394 10eeShards/core.lua:`
`00:53.23`	`CIA-17`	`eeShards :`
`00:53.23`	`CIA-17`	`- Add locale koKR`
`00:54.05`	`ZealotOnAStick`	vid`: QuestFu's.
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`00:55.17`	`shieldb`	`Pneumatus, if you got the loot we did then the best part is just that the ushers stop respawning :\|`
`00:55.40`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r27395 10InFlight/InFlight.lua:`
`00:55.40`	`CIA-17`	`InFlight:`
`00:55.40`	`CIA-17`	`- Update locale koKR`
`00:56.04`	`Pneumatus`	`we got bbw paw`
`00:56.17`	`Pneumatus`	`and eternium greathelm`
`00:56.30`	`Pneumatus`	`the helm appears to be quite a decent tank helm`
`00:57.37`	`Pneumatus`	`the ushers are a pain in the arse, we arent so great at them still`
`00:57.43`	`Tain`	`bbq paw? mmmm bbq`
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`00:58.00`	`kergoth`	`man, i need to buy a grill`
`00:58.06`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27396 10BigWigs/Outland/Gruul.lua:`
`00:58.06`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Outland/Gruul:`
`00:58.07`	`CIA-17`	`- various fixes, also fixed spam, sorry!`
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`00:58.14`	`Pneumatus`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28584`
`00:58.48`	`shieldb`	`even when you're doing the ushers right they're still a pain`
`00:59.15`	`Pneumatus`	`any idea where we get the side entrance key from?`
`00:59.16`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r27397 10AHsearch/AHsearch.toc:`
`00:59.16`	`CIA-17`	`AHsearch :`
`00:59.16`	`CIA-17`	`- Add locale koKR`
`00:59.20`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@72.235.74.140)`
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`00:59.22`	`shieldb`	`the regular key works for that`
`00:59.32`	`shieldb`	`once you've cleared the big bad wolf just walk near the door and it unlocks itself`
`00:59.55`	`Pneumatus`	`so you have to do the oparah on each reset before you can use th door?`
`00:59.57`	`shieldb`	`or rather, once you've cleared the opera house event`
`00:59.58`	`Mikma`	`Niagara is bitching nice`
`00:59.59`	`shieldb`	`right`
`01:00.11`	`kergoth`	`Mikma: yes, waterfalllib is most spiffy`
`01:00.23`	`NeoTron`	`what on earth is it?`
`01:00.26`	`Mikma`	`try oTweaks and Niagara`
`01:00.37`	`NeoTron`	`not exactly self explanatory names`
`01:00.53`	`shieldb`	`Helps mages summon lots of water?`
`01:01.03`	`kergoth`	`NeoTron: waterfalllib is another interface to aceoptions`
`01:01.10`	`Mikma`	`just svn it :P`
`01:01.10`	`kergoth`	`NeoTron: more dialog style, not menu interface`
`01:01.19`	`Mikma`	`you can see the .toc to see the description`
`01:01.23`	`kergoth`	`niagara is to waterfalllib as deucecommander is to dewdrop`
`01:01.51`	`ckknight`	`we have such unintuitive names :-P`
`01:02.03`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r27398 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFuLocale-koKR.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Update locale koKR`
`01:02.04`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`01:02.11`	`kergoth`	`at least they're creative`
`01:02.14`	`kergoth`	`no dialoglib or anything`
`01:02.25`	`ckknight`	`hehe, yea`
`01:02.31`	`ckknight`	`oh well`
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`01:02.31`	`NeoTron`	`ah that'd be nice`
`01:02.42`	`ckknight`	`not like "Vista" or "Longhorn" are very intuitive names`
`01:02.47`	`NeoTron`	`complex configuration using a menu structure is incredibly user unfriendly`
`01:02.51`	`ckknight`	`or even "Windows" for that matter`
`01:02.57`	`NeoTron`	`and one of the main reasons I got tired of ag_UF real fast`
`01:03.04`	`kergoth`	`its easy to move the mouse wronga nd lose your place in a deeply nested menu`
`01:03.12`	`ckknight`	`kergoth: yea`
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`01:03.20`	`ckknight`	`the menus are great for simple dialogs`
`01:03.22`	`NeoTron`	`not to mention it keeps going away`
`01:03.26`	`ckknight`	`that are only 1 or 2 deep`
`01:03.33`	`ckknight`	`any more than that and it breaks down`
`01:03.34`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: yea`
`01:03.37`	`ckknight`	`and a proper config manager would be better`
`01:04.02`	`ckknight`	`e.g. I really don't think that Cartographer needs to use WaterfallLib, since its menus are actually quite small`
`01:04.08`	`NeoTron`	`one of the main benefits of cosmos is khaos`
`01:04.14`	`NeoTron`	`it's really nice`
`01:04.51`	`Amadeo`	`what's khaos? a lib?`
`01:05.25`	`kergoth`	`ora2 or aguf are good examples of a need for waterfalllib`
`01:05.34`	`ckknight`	`Amadeo: config system`
`01:05.36`	`ckknight`	`kergoth: totally.`
`01:05.40`	`Amadeo`	`ahh, yeah I've seen that`
`01:05.41`	`ckknight`	`kergoth: BigWigs too`
`01:05.53`	`Amadeo`	`I've fallen in love with X-Perl UF, personally :P`
`01:06.12`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: you know, i really -want- to like dongle, its simplicity appeals to me, but the lack of aceoptions, coupled with the lack of an object model almost completely kills the appeal for me`
`01:06.24`	`kergoth`	`an interface independent data format is a lovely thing`
`01:06.28`	`ckknight`	`I like AceOptions, it's a good standard`
`01:06.53`	`ckknight`	`and I like its implementation-independent quality`
`01:06.57`	Funkeh`	`what is waterfall?`
`01:07.03`	`ckknight`	`I designed it originally specifically for that`
`01:07.20`	`ckknight`	Funkeh`: config system that uses dialogs instead of dropdown menus
`01:07.27`	Funkeh`	`oh`
`01:08.31`	`mjc`	`ckknight: dogchow likes to load on my druid. :P`
`01:08.39`	`ckknight`	`mjc: so disable it`
`01:08.39`	`Amadeo`	`X-Perl has some cool features...shows each party members target, lots of options (that I don't really mess with), and a nifty thing that greys out peoples health and mana bars when their afk flag is on ;)`
`01:10.47`	`Amadeo`	`Oh yeah, I also like how it shows the default 2D character image when it doesn't have the 3D image...when a player is within range, it updates to 3D`
`01:12.31`	`Amadeo`	`arcane bars for each character in party`
`01:12.39`	`NeoTron`	`Amadeo: as ckknight said it's a configu system. Basically configuration GUI`
`01:12.40`	`Amadeo`	`it's pretty nifty :D`
`01:12.58`	`Amadeo`	`NeoTron: Yeah, I think I saw that a long time ago...didn't know it was called Khaos`
`01:14.01`	`NeoTron`	`is the ace config system designed in such a way that you could, in theory, just replace the GUI part with a dialog-based system?`
`01:15.26`	`mjc`	`grab niagra`
`01:15.44`	`NeoTron`	`ah so that is what niagra is then? without changing addons to use it?`
`01:16.17`	`NeoTron`	`installingit now, will check it out tonight`
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`01:17.47`	`anenigma_`	`anyone have a screenshot of cartographer showing guildies on it? I want to get my guild onto it, but need some 'evidence'`
`01:18.18`	`Amadeo`	`So has anyone messed with Vanguard? It was released, I think`
`01:20.07`	`NeoTron`	`heard it's another "potential but released too early" kind of MMO's`
`01:20.25`	`NeoTron`	`with an added benefit of "good old days of <painful corpse runs of EQ>" added in for fun`
`01:22.06`	`Amadeo`	`I was in the beta but couldn't play it because...strangely, my PC can't handle it`
`01:22.11`	`Amadeo`	`Even though I thought the graphics were pretty bad :P`
`01:22.24`	`Pneumatus`	`o noes, im lost in kara now`
`01:25.47`	`NeoTron`	`polished it is not`
`01:26.02`	`NeoTron`	`I do wonder if microsoft backed out because they expected it to fail :-)`
`01:26.10`	`NeoTron`	`SOE however gladylu churns out buggy MMORPGs`
`01:26.22`	vid`	`i tried vanguard`
`01:26.26`	vid`	`but uh, i didnt like it`
`01:26.33`	vid`	`it felt like eq 2.5`
`01:26.51`	vid`	`vanguard is great probably if you dont have a job :P`
`01:26.53`	vid`	`otherwise stick to wow`
`01:27.38`	`Amadeo`	`Does Brad McQuaid play and favor guilds in it? :P`
`01:28.18`	`NeoTron`	`I was semi-excited about some things`
`01:28.36`	`Amadeo`	`I thought the open dungeons were awesome`
`01:28.36`	`Amadeo`	`I hate instancing`
`01:28.36`	`NeoTron`	`like the depth of crafting, player made / owned structures, diplomacy`
`01:28.43`	`Amadeo`	`takes away the whole seemless world thing for me`
`01:28.44`	`NeoTron`	`heh I like instancing because it lets me do, with my friends, what we want to do`
`01:28.46`	`NeoTron`	`without interruptions`
`01:28.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`man. stuff hits HARD in heroic mode. ><`
`01:28.54`	`Amadeo`	`er, seamless`
`01:28.55`	`NeoTron`	`wow-level instancing that is`
`01:29.10`	`Amadeo`	`It was fun to fight over spawns in EQ ;)`
`01:29.10`	`NeoTron`	`NightHawkTheSane: that it does. one of the bog overlords hit our healer for 15k :)`
`01:29.17`	vid`	`hmm`
`01:29.18`	vid`	`yhink my inet broke`
`01:29.20`	`NeoTron`	`see I'd have no interest in doing that`
`01:29.22`	vid`	`cant access a lot of websites`
`01:29.23`	vid`	`or login to wow`
`01:29.24`	vid`	`:(`
`01:29.25`	`NeoTron`	`bad enough with named mobs as it is`
`01:29.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah... we just wiped to a pair of ocilfang defenders in slave pens`
`01:29.38`	`Amadeo`	`NeoTron: I think they said each dungeon was large enough that you could just move to another area`
`01:29.39`	vid`	`cant connect to wow patcher now`
`01:29.39`	`Tain`	`One of the Penny Arcades that made me laugh out loud, and about Vanguard. http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/05/10`
`01:29.39`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`we didnt know they were immune to poly`
`01:29.40`	`Amadeo`	`in Vanguard`
`01:29.41`	vid`	`weird`
`01:29.43`	`NeoTron`	`although I was in a guild that did farm the green dragons for a total of maybe 50-60 kills`
`01:30.00`	`NeoTron`	`NightHawkTheSane: we had similar experiences using seduce`
`01:30.10`	`NeoTron`	`which lead us having to deal with multiple cloth mashing npcs`
`01:30.17`	`Pneumatus`	`i killed ysondre once :<`
`01:30.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah`
`01:30.21`	`Amadeo`	`Tain: Yeah, once they went back to SOE, that pretty much killed my interest in the game`
`01:30.31`	`Amadeo`	`It's like, "Hey guys, we're selling out!"`
`01:30.35`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I'm the tank, and both mobs just basiclaly two shot me, then cleaned up the rest :P`
`01:30.38`	vid`	`looks like dns taking a shit`
`01:30.51`	`NeoTron`	`it was quite fun`
`01:30.56`	`NeoTron`	`and I liked them as encounters goes`
`01:31.06`	`NeoTron`	`but I'd prefer if they were somehow summoned but with a cooldown`
`01:31.11`	`NeoTron`	`so more guilds get a chance to do them`
`01:31.20`	`KarlThePagan`	`has anyone found any followup quests to ally of the Netherwing?`
`01:31.36`	`NeoTron`	`KarlThePagan: I believe at this point there is none`
`01:31.36`	`NeoTron`	`and if there is, it's not known`
`01:31.51`	`NeoTron`	`I visited doom lord kazzak last night`
`01:31.53`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27399 10BigWigs/Outland/Gruul.lua:`
`01:31.53`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Outland/Gruul:`
`01:31.53`	`CIA-17`	`- practice good coding!`
`01:31.54`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea I'm on the last part of it... a few guildies finished it`
`01:32.00`	`NeoTron`	`guess he's not worth farming because he was alive and well in his throne`
`01:32.02`	vid`	`greatt`
`01:32.05`	vid`	`yea my inet is tanked`
`01:32.15`	`NeoTron`	`I'm at the point where I need a group to move on`
`01:32.19`	`KarlThePagan`	`NeoTron, oh he's worth farming... but who exactly is ready to take him out`
`01:32.29`	vid`	`lol wow`
`01:32.37`	vid`	`guess it was just me :P`
`01:32.40`	`NeoTron`	`well`
`01:32.45`	`KarlThePagan`	`NeoTron, read the online strategies... they're very nice`
`01:32.46`	`NeoTron`	`I'd imagine Transcendence would be`
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`01:32.58`	`NeoTron`	`seeing as how they were one of the KT-killing guilds`
`01:33.08`	`NeoTron`	`my guild - not so much`
`01:33.17`	`KarlThePagan`	`tell them to get off their lazy asses and get their healers some sexy 300 +healing saffs!`
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`01:37.37`	`NeoTron`	`I think instead I'll go home and respec demonology again`
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`01:37.45`	`NeoTron`	`back to my original l70 spec essentially`
`01:37.56`	`Pneumatus`	`Arcane Watchmen 4tl`
`01:38.13`	`NeoTron`	`imp cannon (pre-nerf, dunno how it'll be later) was the best in terms of DPS so far`
`01:38.40`	`NeoTron`	`didn't like destruction much (0/21/40). heavy affliction is nice.. but I like my felguard`
`01:41.55`	`NeoTron`	`man this is priceless: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=52.069210,+4.3139979&ie=UTF8&z=19&ll=52.069291,4.313998&spn=0.000958,0.00338&t=k&om=1&iwloc=addr`
`01:42.13`	`NeoTron`	`zoomed in further: http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d4c59302893128e70159e12zz1.jpg`
`01:42.17`	`NeoTron`	`so called creative parking`
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`01:57.47`	vid`	`wow`
`01:57.48`	vid`	`niagra owns`
`01:58.21`	Funkeh`	`niagara`
`01:58.25`	vid`	`hehe`
`01:58.27`	vid`	`yea :P`
`01:58.32`	vid`	`im tired cant spell`
`01:58.35`	Funkeh`	`you can see why he changed it`
`01:58.47`	`Tain`	`viagra > niagra`
`01:58.47`	Funkeh`	`just sounds too similar`
`01:58.52`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`01:59.34`	`Pneumatus`	Funkeh`: out of interest do you have any plan to make a bossmod for the Arcane Watchman mobs?
`01:59.38`	`Pneumatus`	`who do the Overload debuff?`
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`01:59.52`	Funkeh`	`which ones are those`
`02:00.17`	`Pneumatus`	`the arcane sentry guys, heading up towards curator`
`02:00.17`	`Pneumatus`	`they put a debuff on players that makes them nuke everyone with arcane explosions`
`02:01.41`	Funkeh`	`yes`
`02:01.43`	Funkeh`	`no i don't`
`02:02.27`	Funkeh`	`just run away from the big exploding thing`
`02:02.38`	Funkeh`	`we have a 'corner' where people run to`
`02:02.46`	`Pneumatus`	`when they get the debuff?`
`02:02.49`	Funkeh`	`yes`
`02:03.00`	`Pneumatus`	`fair enough`
`02:04.13`	`Tain`	`I'm so angry every time I see a commercial for Bridge to Terabithia movie.`
`02:05.14`	`Tain`	`What they are showing in commercials has NOTHING to do with the movie, it is just trying to draw people in.`
`02:05.41`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`they made a movie from that`
`02:05.42`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`?`
`02:05.52`	`Tain`	`And the ending of the book was... oh hell I don't want to spoil anything for anyone who might see it. But it isn't a happy ending.`
`02:05.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i think i read that in 4th grade`
`02:05.55`	`*** join/#wowace Rophy (n=Miranda@csw157.cs.nthu.edu.tw)`
`02:05.59`	`Tain`	`Yeah exactly hc, me too`
`02:06.07`	`*** join/#wowace Mokka (n=bla@p54933BC4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)`
`02:06.13`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i remember the ending, the tree, and the pickup truck`
`02:06.32`	`Tain`	`The commercials are making it out to be a fantasy movie with faires and trolls and shit.`
`02:06.35`	`*** join/#wowace sdouble (n=email@71-214-227-251.desm.qwest.net)`
`02:06.45`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that's not what it was =x`
`02:07.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`some kids are gonna be scarred`
`02:07.27`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Tain: wait, they're making a bridge to terabithia movie? OH GODS that's disgusting`
`02:07.49`	`Tain`	`It comes out soon. Been running commercials.`
`02:07.57`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I dont own a tv, so.. i'm kinda cut off`
`02:08.16`	`hyperChipmunk`	`some mom will take her kindergarten kids and they'll go out crying`
`02:09.26`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i still hate my teacher for making us read that`
`02:09.43`	`Tain`	`Yeah no shit.`
`02:09.55`	`*** join/#wowace DrZoot (n=DrZoot@202.61.139.34)`
`02:10.00`	`Tain`	`There is a reason the name of that book is burned into my brain 20 years later.`
`02:10.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, exactly`
`02:16.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i loved the book, but yeah. its very sad.`
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`02:25.00`	`rangerpaik`	`can anyone help me?`
`02:26.38`	`rangerpaik`	`hello?`
`02:29.28`	`Aenslaed`	`heh, here's a neat thing`
`02:29.37`	`Aenslaed`	`sraidframes doesn't count rogues as a class`
`02:30.52`	`Tain`	`Rogues are that stealthy.`
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`02:31.00`	`Aenslaed`	`heh, yeah`
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`02:40.48`	`JoshBorke`	`just fyi, mind vision fubars things`
`02:41.20`	`JoshBorke`	`for cartographer`
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`03:02.34`	`CIA-17`	`03zuno * r27400 10UnitActionBars/ (11 files):`
`03:02.34`	`CIA-17`	`UnitActionBars:`
`03:02.34`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed an issue with bars staying hidden when last unit frame used for buttons was hidden`
`03:02.34`	`CIA-17`	`- Changed to using SecureAnchorFrameTemplates`
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`03:06.09`	`*** part/#wowace Wing87 (n=Wing@c83-254-245-200.bredband.comhem.se)`
`03:07.36`	`cynyr_`	`okay is there a way to get cross char searching with sanity?`
`03:09.48`	`*** join/#wowace JJSheets (n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com)`
`03:18.33`	`cynyr_`	`okay is there a way to get cross char searching with sanity?`
`03:19.27`	`kenlyric\|home`	`click on your name`
`03:19.38`	`kenlyric\|home`	`in the sanity window, and there will be a droppdown of all the names.`
`03:19.47`	`cynyr_`	`kenlyric\|home: ohh doh`
`03:20.03`	`kenlyric\|home`	`don't worry, I didn't know where it was when I upgraded to sanity2 :)`
`03:20.36`	`cynyr_`	`kenlyric\|home: ahh there is an all option too, thanks`
`03:20.58`	`cynyr_`	`didn't even thing to click it.. maybe if there had be an arrow or something`
`03:21.24`	`cynyr_`	`or even like a downward faceing chevron texture...`
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`03:26.29`	`kenlyric\|home`	`ok, can I blow up my TV now?`
`03:27.30`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I'm pretty sure this Windows Vista commecial just said it was like the berlin wall coming down and man going into space.`
`03:27.32`	`kenlyric\|home`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:28.01`	`WobWork`	`><`
`03:28.09`	`*** part/#wowace WobWork (n=Wobin@202-129-81-206.perm.iinet.net.au)`
`03:29.07`	`nymbia`	`i wouldnt put it past microsoft to just flat out rip off apple's 1984 super bowl commercial`
`03:29.11`	`JJSheets`	`lmao kenlyric`
`03:29.51`	`xyu`	`what do i get using vista that i dont get in XP?`
`03:29.59`	`xyu`	`serious question`
`03:29.59`	`JJSheets`	`a headache`
`03:30.06`	`JJSheets`	`serious answer`
`03:30.11`	`nymbia`	`shiny colors`
`03:30.13`	`xyu`	`yeah i think so :$`
`03:32.21`	`Myrathi`	`Homocidal tendencies.`
`03:32.33`	`Myrathi`	`Homicidal, too.`
`03:32.47`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`03:32.55`	`Myrathi`	`Helluva typo, that :P`
`03:33.27`	`Myrathi`	`"Windows Vista commercials... they make you hop the fence!"`
`03:33.44`	`art3mis`	`and realize theres dogs in the other yard`
`03:33.52`	`Myrathi`	`It's this COM coding: it makes my brain itch.`
`03:33.57`	`art3mis`	`people eatting dogs`
`03:34.08`	`JJSheets`	`wait....`
`03:34.11`	`Myrathi`	`They eat dogs in Hong Kong, don't they?`
`03:34.11`	`art3mis`	`hehe did an upgrade on my test box on friday`
`03:34.22`	`art3mis`	`from xp pro to vista business`
`03:34.24`	`JJSheets`	`people... eating dogs... or dogs eating people....`
`03:34.35`	`art3mis`	`machine wouldnt boot after the last reboot because appearantly hardware changed`
`03:34.35`	`Myrathi`	`Ohh. I think he meant "people-eating" dogs.`
`03:34.39`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`03:34.49`	`art3mis`	`so i had to do a fake upgrade to a fresh clean install`
`03:34.53`	`Myrathi`	`Yay for dubious grammar. :)`
`03:34.57`	`Antiarc`	`http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/area_man_needs_two_more`
`03:34.59`	`Antiarc`	`Hahahahahahahahah`
`03:35.05`	`Antiarc`	`I love the onion`
`03:35.27`	`art3mis`	`and the best part, the security features hinder my WoW installation when it pops open the "please insert disc 2"`
`03:35.43`	`art3mis`	`so i need to just burn my bc install and do a copy to the vista machine`
`03:35.46`	`art3mis`	`it's awesome!`
`03:36.03`	`art3mis`	`it's like...wow`
`03:36.04`	`JJSheets`	`heh... Vista... the unnecessary upgrade!`
`03:36.32`	`art3mis`	`finalyl content with having your ass rammed? here's a bigger plug.`
`03:36.49`	`Myrathi`	`Vista's getting nowhere near my comp until I want to play a game enough that requires it. :`
`03:36.50`	`Myrathi`	`:P`
`03:36.57`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`03:37.00`	`JJSheets`	`smart :)`
`03:37.02`	`art3mis`	`i do comp consulting`
`03:37.10`	`art3mis`	`i have no choice but to sacrifice a box for it`
`03:37.33`	`xyu`	`games will require vista?`
`03:37.46`	`art3mis`	`yeah bewjeled deluxe!`
`03:37.53`	`xyu`	`hah`
`03:37.54`	`Myrathi`	`DirectX10 is on Vista... so it'll happen sooner or later.`
`03:37.56`	`JJSheets`	`I own a comp repair company. I inform customers to flee screaming insanely from Vista.`
`03:38.12`	`art3mis`	`hehe me too`
`03:38.21`	`art3mis`	`some people though there's just no reasoning with them`
`03:38.39`	`Myrathi`	`"It's new! It's shiny! I neeeeeeeed it! Now! Nownownow!"`
`03:38.43`	`Myrathi`	`I tend to slap those people.`
`03:38.47`	`art3mis`	`but the good part is that vista beta came off my laptop today`
`03:38.52`	`xyu`	`they're raccoons....ooo shiny`
`03:38.55`	`art3mis`	`and now i can put nix back on it`
`03:39.06`	`art3mis`	`although im not sure what flavour i want`
`03:39.07`	`JJSheets`	`yay for *nix`
`03:39.07`	`Myrathi`	`Best thing to do with raccoons is to shoot them. :p`
`03:39.16`	`art3mis`	`fbsd 6.2 doesnt see my hdd`
`03:39.23`	`art3mis`	`cant find the controller`
`03:39.32`	`art3mis`	`suse 10.2 panics`
`03:39.35`	`Myrathi`	`Vista beta probably stole it.`
`03:39.36`	`Myrathi`	`:P`
`03:39.38`	`JJSheets`	`Red Hat Fedora Core anything.`
`03:39.43`	`JJSheets`	`lol Myrathi`
`03:39.46`	`art3mis`	`so ill prolly do suse 9.2 again`
`03:39.55`	`art3mis`	`red hat is the spawn of the debil`
`03:40.03`	`art3mis`	`i might install debian though`
`03:40.12`	`art3mis`	`or lindows for shits and giggles`
`03:40.19`	`JJSheets`	`pukes`
`03:40.21`	`Myrathi`	`Been so long since I've used my *nix install, I don't even remember which box it's on.`
`03:40.23`	`JJSheets`	`lindows?????`
`03:40.27`	`art3mis`	`heh yeah`
`03:40.38`	`art3mis`	`just the idea that its nixc pretending to be inferior is great`
`03:40.59`	`JJSheets`	`Fedora. Go on... it's just a soul... and it's not like you're selling it to gates... right? :)`
`03:41.13`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`03:41.23`	`JJSheets`	`and really...`
`03:41.24`	`art3mis`	`actually iw as looking at distfiles today`
`03:41.26`	`Myrathi`	`I have a copy of Woutdows somewhere. Friend and my really bad attempt at an OS-writing project a few years ago. :P`
`03:41.42`	`JJSheets`	`Are you actually USING that soul at the moment? no... I thought not...`
`03:41.44`	`art3mis`	`annfinix or something lo0oks neat`
`03:41.57`	`art3mis`	`im a slack kid when it comes to linux`
`03:42.02`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`03:42.05`	`Myrathi`	`lo0oks? :p`
`03:42.09`	`art3mis`	`and given the choice i'd be worshipping the daemon ;)`
`03:42.16`	`art3mis`	`fuck the penguin`
`03:42.20`	`art3mis`	`fuck it in its stupid ass`
`03:42.22`	`art3mis`	`;)`
`03:42.34`	`JJSheets`	`I liked debian... but the damn thing is so friggin antiquated...`
`03:42.37`	`Myrathi`	`It'd probably enjoy it and you'd never be able to detach it. :P`
`03:42.43`	`art3mis`	`hehe aprt of me wants to try opensolaris`
`03:42.47`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`03:42.54`	`art3mis`	`just cuz my eyes arent blody enough`
`03:42.57`	`Myrathi`	`Glutton for punishment, eh?`
`03:43.05`	`art3mis`	`bloody`
`03:43.24`	`Myrathi`	`And dammit... I blew up explorer again.`
`03:43.25`	`art3mis`	`hehe *remembers not so fondly installing solaris 6 on his sparc 10`
`03:44.16`	`Myrathi`	`I like having an SGI box sometimes. Until it asplodes and I have to wait on a friend coming to fix it.`
`03:44.28`	`Myrathi`	`So damn old it's silly... but it works.`
`03:45.07`	`JJSheets`	`man I've been away too dang long...`
`03:45.17`	`art3mis`	`hehe`
`03:45.21`	`art3mis`	`mmmm irix`
`03:45.26`	`Myrathi`	`:]`
`03:45.35`	`art3mis`	`i had an o2 a few years back`
`03:45.40`	`art3mis`	`it loks pretty`
`03:45.41`	`Myrathi`	`Beats the crap out of the Solaris box I was offered instead. :P`
`03:45.42`	`art3mis`	`looks`
`03:45.49`	`JJSheets`	`I just got 52 errors most about missing libs... oy...`
`03:46.02`	`art3mis`	`my friend used to work for this place in calgary they got a cray donated to them`
`03:46.08`	`art3mis`	`but couldnt find the pwoer coupler`
`03:46.08`	`Myrathi`	`JJ? You might have some libs missing. Might want to check that... ;)`
`03:46.24`	`art3mis`	`they also competed in rc5 with a tree of sparc sharks`
`03:46.29`	`Myrathi`	`art3mis: Not much use, that.`
`03:46.34`	`JJSheets`	`hmmm... ya think so? :)`
`03:46.36`	`cynyr_`	`hey anyone know the config.wtf settings for texture detail and weather intensity?`
`03:46.36`	`art3mis`	`sure there is`
`03:46.44`	`art3mis`	`"we've got a cray...suck it"`
`03:46.50`	`Myrathi`	`Not if you don't have a power coupler. :P`
`03:46.52`	`art3mis`	`who cares if it works`
`03:46.56`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`03:47.00`	`Myrathi`	`"your cray doesn't work... blow it" P`
`03:47.01`	`Myrathi`	`:P`
`03:47.02`	`art3mis`	`its still a 5billion dollar computer ;P`
`03:47.10`	`cynyr_`	`lawl`
`03:47.18`	`art3mis`	`or was mid 80s ;P`
`03:47.25`	`JJSheets`	`I wonder how fast you could get WoW to run on a Cray... if you could do it...`
`03:47.29`	`art3mis`	`hahahah`
`03:47.42`	`art3mis`	`we used to joke about getting iot powered solely to make a mame client for it`
`03:47.44`	`Myrathi`	`"Hey guys! I got a new computer! ...it takes up 8 garages, but it's UBER!"`
`03:47.52`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`03:47.53`	`art3mis`	`nah its not that big`
`03:48.05`	`art3mis`	`about the size of 2 deep freezes stacked`
`03:48.28`	`art3mis`	`and it comes apart in sections`
`03:48.28`	`Myrathi`	`"I've got a cray." "Wow." "Yes, dude. It rocks." "Whatcha run on it?" "Nethack."`
`03:48.28`	`Myrathi`	`:P`
`03:48.30`	`JJSheets`	`I mean... what if you could get a 360 degree field of vision?`
`03:48.32`	`art3mis`	`hehe pretty much`
`03:48.33`	`Tain`	`Yay Nethack!`
`03:48.41`	`art3mis`	`the place that got it had thier opwn slurpee machine`
`03:48.45`	`art3mis`	`it had two flavours`
`03:48.49`	`art3mis`	`during work and after work`
`03:48.53`	`JJSheets`	`nethack is the granpappy of all coolness.`
`03:48.58`	`art3mis`	`coke and vodka for the slow kids`
`03:49.05`	`Tain`	`I feel bad for people who play current RPGs and have never seriously played Nethack.`
`03:49.18`	`art3mis`	`they just dont get the grue comments ;P`
`03:49.26`	`Myrathi`	`:p`
`03:49.29`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`03:49.43`	`Tain`	`And it is a much deeper game than people think at first look, because it is ASCII.`
`03:49.49`	`art3mis`	`thinking back dragon magazine used to have a comic called Grue the wanderer`
`03:49.55`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`03:49.56`	`Tain`	`Groo the Wanderer`
`03:50.02`	`art3mis`	`shhhhhhh`
`03:50.04`	`Myrathi`	`Jeez, that's going back a bit.`
`03:50.08`	`art3mis`	`yeah im old`
`03:50.19`	`JJSheets`	`wow... I sorta remember that one...`
`03:50.26`	`art3mis`	`i can remember pac man fever`
`03:50.29`	`cynyr_`	`i fell sorry for the people that play RPG's on the computers and have never had a good DM for D&D`
`03:50.36`	`Myrathi`	`I still have the first couple of hundred issues in the attic. �_�`
`03:50.41`	`art3mis`	`and the expert set for d&d coming out`
`03:50.45`	`cynyr_`	`s/fell/feel/`
`03:50.59`	`Tain`	`Groo was the Prince of Chichester!`
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`03:51.08`	`Myrathi`	`Not to mention hell-knows how many White Dwarf issues. Sheesh.`
`03:51.13`	`art3mis`	`hehe yeah`
`03:51.14`	`JJSheets`	`Jeebus how many frickin libs did ya'll make since I left...`
`03:51.25`	`Myrathi`	`My wife bugs me for days after rummaging up there for something.`
`03:51.35`	`tjs`	`anyone know vaguely what sitting on vent all day costs in bandwidth?`
`03:51.52`	`cynyr_`	`art3mis: ahh mines 3.5`
`03:51.52`	`art3mis`	`free!`
`03:52.02`	`art3mis`	`check torrent sites vent server is on there`
`03:52.05`	`Myrathi`	`cynyr_: Spent a lot of time at the short end of the make-up counter, eh?`
`03:52.14`	`art3mis`	`the 1st edition bards were gods`
`03:52.28`	`art3mis`	`9war/9thi/11mage/13bard`
`03:52.43`	`JJSheets`	`thi?`
`03:52.44`	`Tain`	`I love D&D because you can make "non-cookie cutter" characters that kick ass.`
`03:52.51`	`cynyr_`	`Myrathi: yea.. halflings in dnd, dwarfs in wow....`
`03:52.51`	`art3mis`	`the first 3 classes had to be done one at a time`
`03:52.58`	`JJSheets`	`oh... I have v3.5 on the brain... n/m`
`03:53.06`	`Myrathi`	`(I was sniping at your use of 'rouge' instead of 'rogue' actually ;P)`
`03:54.06`	`art3mis`	`and you couldnt use any of the first classes pwoers until you hit the finishing level of the prior class`
`03:54.06`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`03:54.06`	`Tain`	`One of my favoritest chars was a Human Figher with piss poor STR, STA, and DEX, but 18 CHA`
`03:54.06`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`03:54.06`	`cynyr_`	`Myrathi: damn how the F*&! did i misspell that... it's late..`
`03:54.06`	`Tain`	`And high INT`
`03:54.06`	`Myrathi`	`:]`
`03:54.06`	`art3mis`	`so you made a hitler?`
`03:54.06`	`cynyr_`	`Tain: lol`
`03:54.06`	`art3mis`	`or a manson`
`03:54.12`	`Myrathi`	`Meat-shield; just not a very good one :]`
`03:54.12`	`Tain`	`He ruled.`
`03:54.19`	`Tain`	`Could talk his way out of anything.`
`03:54.46`	`cynyr_`	`lol, my rogue just "fights" his way out`
`03:54.54`	`Myrathi`	`Half the fun in the games I play is making a character with messed up stats work.`
`03:54.59`	`art3mis`	`yeah`
`03:55.00`	`cynyr_`	`lol`
`03:55.03`	`Myrathi`	`People are always "dude. that sucks. re-roll!"`
`03:55.06`	`art3mis`	`like artemis`
`03:55.09`	`art3mis`	`vs drizzt`
`03:55.15`	`art3mis`	`artemis was JUSTa human`
`03:55.18`	`JJSheets`	`Well... 4 libs to grab... not horrible...`
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`03:55.28`	`cynyr_`	`those chars scare me`
`03:55.30`	`art3mis`	`and he beat the living snot out of drizzt time and again despite all his little godly powers`
`03:55.38`	`Tain`	`I liked the random roll way of doing things, not min/maxing.`
`03:55.42`	`art3mis`	`yeah`
`03:55.48`	`Myrathi`	`Our GM makes us work on background-idea first, then choose race and class.. then roll.`
`03:55.55`	`art3mis`	`most of my godwars code for combat was random(1,100)`
`03:55.56`	`Myrathi`	`So the resulting characters can be hysterical.`
`03:56.22`	`art3mis`	`we used to be the worst people to gm for`
`03:56.30`	`art3mis`	`all our characters were sociapaths`
`03:56.52`	`Myrathi`	`Sociopaths, too, I bet.`
`03:57.05`	`art3mis`	`"give me a drink" "you old enough to be in here?" melfs acid arrow "yeah i think so."`
`03:57.06`	`JJSheets`	`bwahahahah`
`03:57.07`	`Tain`	`One of my favorite games was Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles RPG where you'd roll for everything. Your char was completely random, from type of animal you were, to background, to powers, etc.`
`03:57.28`	`Myrathi`	`Gotta be wary in bars.`
`03:57.33`	`Myrathi`	`They're all run by retired hero-types.`
`03:57.38`	`JJSheets`	`I played a half mutated Octopus in TMNT...`
`03:57.49`	`art3mis`	`the one war in our party used to do into a dive of a bar and order tea just for the bar fights`
`03:57.50`	`JJSheets`	`He was freakin awesome...`
`03:58.04`	`art3mis`	`do == go`
`03:58.04`	`cynyr_`	`in a cmpain i was the other group of 5 bought a bar in a major city`
`03:58.14`	`cynyr_`	`campaign`
`03:58.15`	`Myrathi`	`That greatsword above the bar ain't just for show... it used to cleave dragons! )`
`03:58.15`	`Myrathi`	`;)`
`03:58.21`	`Tain`	`haha JJSheets my char was a 6 armed Octopus who could throw 18 Shuriken per combat round.`
`03:58.49`	`JJSheets`	`Like I said... freakin awesome. :)`
`03:59.03`	`art3mis`	`hehe we surivived a dragon battle barely and death(the god) was wandering the feild colelcting souls and i was winded and he snuck up behind me and tapped my shoulder... i thought it was an enemy and turned around and backhanded him`
`03:59.15`	`art3mis`	`i lost a con that day`
`03:59.23`	`JJSheets`	`lmao`
`03:59.23`	`Myrathi`	`rofl.`
`03:59.41`	`vhaarr`	`3 minutes to shutdown, you can forgive people who say "DING 70!" in General then :)`
`03:59.44`	`art3mis`	`but iw as the only one who could claim i backhanded death ;P`
`03:59.45`	`cynyr_`	`rofl`
`03:59.54`	`Myrathi`	`"Beware the rollback!"`
`03:59.56`	`Myrathi`	`=)`
`03:59.59`	`vhaarr`	`haha`
`04:00.09`	`JJSheets`	`"He's a bit too lively to be dead... but he keeps on givin me cheek, and I'll fix that right up."`
`04:00.11`	`Myrathi`	`We've had that happen on earthen ring.`
`04:00.37`	`Myrathi`	`Ding 70! shutdown restart WTF?! I'm 69?! NOOOOOOOOOOO!`
`04:00.43`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`04:00.46`	`art3mis`	`hehe`
`04:01.07`	`Myrathi`	`Then he got banned for 3 days for swearing at the GM that answered his ticket. :p`
`04:01.08`	`cynyr_`	`+20 to bluff no gear skill mods, my rogue could sneack attack you in the face!`
`04:01.14`	`Myrathi`	`Gotta laugh.`
`04:01.28`	`art3mis`	`http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=annvix`
`04:01.36`	`art3mis`	`thats the liux im gonna muck with tomorrow`
`04:03.16`	`vhaarr`	`Gotta love that logo.`
`04:04.17`	`Myrathi`	`Ugh. mySQL's updated again.`
`04:04.33`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`04:05.42`	`Myrathi`	`Right. Le'see if this stupid thumbnail crap works, this time.`
`04:19.26`	`art3mis`	`so ive got netbsd, annvix, linuxmint and linspire`
`04:19.34`	`art3mis`	`lets see which one sucks least tomorrow`
`04:19.46`	`JJSheets`	`Fedora. heh....`
`04:19.51`	`art3mis`	`i ahve netbsd on my toaser oven`
`04:19.54`	`art3mis`	`it's pretty rad`
`04:19.57`	`art3mis`	`toaster`
`04:20.22`	`art3mis`	`my poweredge 750 is fbsd 6.2`
`04:20.32`	`art3mis`	`cuz i love simmersons toaster`
`04:20.43`	`art3mis`	`webmail mysql antivirus email server`
`04:20.46`	`JJSheets`	`I suspect there's some version of Linux running on my car's Music HD...`
`04:20.50`	`art3mis`	`with imap support`
`04:20.55`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`04:21.02`	`JJSheets`	`Your toaster serves email?`
`04:21.04`	`art3mis`	`i used to ahve a omputer in my truck`
`04:21.09`	`art3mis`	`computer`
`04:21.23`	`art3mis`	`altec 45.2's and a 120 invertor ;P`
`04:21.35`	`art3mis`	`had it spawn winamp on a random shuffled 18gig playlist`
`04:22.08`	`art3mis`	`and a mini keyboard to control volume and pause n stuff`
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`04:23.31`	`JJSheets`	`Sony, 30 gig. Used solely for convenience without keyboard. I've got maybe 20 or 30 CDs ripped onto it. It fits snugly where my radio used to be. :)`
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`04:27.50`	`art3mis`	`we got bored at my last job at a computer warehouse so we converted this guys car into the ultimate pc`
`04:28.56`	`art3mis`	`cosole had a thinkpad embedded for music and movies, had a tv in card with a ps2 and super nintendo in the console, it all piped into his 700w stereo`
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`04:28.59`	`art3mis`	`console`
`04:29.14`	`art3mis`	`thinkpad in dash i mean`
`04:29.43`	`JJSheets`	`geeks. :p`
`04:29.45`	`art3mis`	`complete with fold away feature and he had a mini keyboard in the dash and the thinpad has touchpad and clit for mouse`
`04:29.48`	`art3mis`	`it was awesome`
`04:29.58`	`art3mis`	`specially playing quake REALLLY loud on his stereo in traffic`
`04:30.13`	`art3mis`	`all you heard were loud explosios and guns`
`04:30.16`	`art3mis`	`it was rad`
`04:30.31`	`JJSheets`	`lol ever get pulled over?`
`04:30.37`	`art3mis`	`but yeah we were geeks`
`04:30.40`	`art3mis`	`nope`
`04:30.49`	`art3mis`	`plus his neon could do the 1/4 mile in 14.5`
`04:30.50`	`art3mis`	`'{`
`04:30.52`	`art3mis`	`;)`
`04:31.19`	`JJSheets`	`geeks. :)`
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`04:31.45`	`art3mis`	`we installed jedi kight 2 on all the demo computers on the floor when it came out`
`04:31.57`	`art3mis`	`just so we'd have something to do when we finsihed our asigned work ;P`
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`04:32.16`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`04:33.09`	`art3mis`	`yeah i dunno about that ckk's been pretty nice to me, although calling him a dick behind his back prolly isnt a good way to get on his good side`
`04:33.11`	`art3mis`	`er......`
`04:33.18`	`art3mis`	`disregard that`
`04:33.22`	`art3mis`	`;)`
`04:33.48`	`JJSheets`	`ckknight has a good side? oh... Hi ckknight! :)`
`04:34.00`	`art3mis`	`yeah.....his ass`
`04:34.10`	`JJSheets`	`I wouldn't know... :p`
`04:34.17`	`art3mis`	`sometimes you ahve to turn him around a few times to get the right side though ;)`
`04:34.40`	`JJSheets`	`pokes ckknight Remember me?`
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`04:39.23`	`JoshBorke`	`fyi, bug about AceComm posted to wowi`
`04:39.40`	`JoshBorke`	`dunno if you're here ckknight`
`04:47.37`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`04:47.45`	`JJSheets`	`heya :)`
`04:47.48`	`ckknight`	`art3mis: douche.`
`04:51.18`	`ckknight`	`JJSheets: I forget you :-P`
`04:51.42`	`JJSheets`	`lol I made Jigsaw and Omnibus... been gone since Novemberish.`
`04:52.24`	`ckknight`	`oh yea`
`04:52.28`	`ckknight`	`what's Jigsaw do?`
`04:52.38`	`ckknight`	`Omnibus I never used, but I heard of it`
`04:52.54`	`JJSheets`	`Tracks Reagents for Tradeskill goals.`
`04:53.06`	`ckknight`	`ah, alright`
`04:54.06`	`CIA-17`	`03benumbed * r27401 10Epeen/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Epeen - Added Auto Sharing and Database Sharing of KoS/Friendly`
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`04:55.11`	`Myrathi`	`Yahoo! Made explorer asplode again!`
`04:55.26`	`Myrathi`	`Thank pud it's running in individual instances, now. :p`
`04:56.37`	`Birdemani[FH]`	`what is epeen? is it like topscore?`
`04:59.34`	`art3mis`	`its a kos`
`04:59.58`	`Birdemani[FH]`	`error: attempt to index global 'bigwigscurator'(a nil value) line 156, file maulgar.lua`
`04:59.59`	`art3mis`	`kill on sight`
`05:00.04`	`Birdemani[FH]`	`just updated as well`
`05:02.23`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27402 10BigWigs/Outland/Maulgar.lua: BigWigs: Maulgar: Bugfix.`
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`05:08.29`	`art3mis`	`hey im not a douche`
`05:08.38`	`art3mis`	`well not in the normal sense of the word anyways`
`05:08.57`	`art3mis`	`ive certainly flushed out a fair amount of women in my days though ;)`
`05:09.05`	`art3mis`	`ba-doom ching`
`05:09.29`	`JJSheets`	`golfclap`
`05:09.34`	`art3mis`	`thanks`
`05:09.41`	`art3mis`	`golfclaps always fopllow rimshots`
`05:09.45`	`art3mis`	`follow`
`05:09.52`	`art3mis`	`damn sausage fingers`
`05:10.04`	`JJSheets`	`I'm not even gonna go there...`
`05:10.14`	`art3mis`	`yer wife likes em ;P`
`05:10.25`	`Thrae`	`"Blarhg! You expect us, the proud Dranei, to fight the evils of the Burning Legion without matching socks?! Those Pit Commanders have matching socks! We require a perfect wardrobe!"`
`05:10.29`	`Thrae`	`"Now I know we're at war with them and viciously hate their guts, but...call in the Queer Elf For the Straight Dranei!" Blood Elves pop out of the woodwork`
`05:10.33`	`JJSheets`	`Damn... I swore I'd never get married...`
`05:10.34`	`art3mis`	`hahahaha`
`05:16.24`	`art3mis`	`i get to go see evil dead the musical tomorrow`
`05:16.30`	`art3mis`	`how awesome is that`
`05:17.58`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`... does anyone know how long it takes a boss corpse to rot if it hasn't been looted? >.>`
`05:18.16`	`PogoTribal`	`15 minutes?`
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`05:19.41`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r27403 10nQuestLog/modules/ (6 files):`
`05:19.41`	`CIA-17`	`nQuestLog :`
`05:19.41`	`CIA-17`	`- More localization`
`05:19.41`	`CIA-17`	`- Locals Code optimisations`
`05:19.41`	`CIA-17`	`- Korean Language Parsing fix and add :) (Line 224)`
`05:19.41`	`PogoTribal`	`Finally, took me 3 hours to download the SC demo`
`05:19.43`	`CIA-17`	`- Update locale koKR`
`05:23.00`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27404 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:`
`05:23.00`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2: Boss:`
`05:23.01`	`CIA-17`	`- deDE update, thanks to Farook`
`05:24.18`	`xlvii`	`How much AP does 20 AGI give? As a Rogue? I can't find formulas anywhere.`
`05:24.35`	`PogoTribal`	`1`
`05:24.51`	`PogoTribal`	`Strength and agility both give 1 for rogues`
`05:25.10`	`xlvii`	`So, essentially 20 AP?`
`05:25.11`	`PogoTribal`	`You can test it by checking your AP and swapping out agility gear...`
`05:25.25`	`PogoTribal`	`I assume you know arithmetic.`
`05:25.37`	`PogoTribal`	`But if you went to school in America I understand.`
`05:25.43`	`xlvii`	`Australia, actually`
`05:25.45`	`xlvii`	`And yes I do ;p`
`05:25.49`	`xlvii`	`Just lazy at the moment`
`05:25.51`	`PogoTribal`	`lol`
`05:25.51`	`JJSheets`	`lmao PogoTribal`
`05:25.52`	`xlvii`	`And I'm at school.`
`05:26.03`	`PogoTribal`	`Yeah, 20 agility = 20 attack power for rogues and hunters`
`05:26.08`	Funkeh`	`learning how to use irc today? :p`
`05:26.10`	`PogoTribal`	`Rogues get 1-1 with strength as well`
`05:27.45`	`Thrae`	`Druids have Attack Power = 2x Strength in Bear and 2x Strength + 1x Agility in Cat Form (Ferals get 2.4x Strength for Cat)`
`05:28.06`	`Thrae`	`We also get absurd ATP bonuses from Feral weapons`
`05:28.23`	`Thrae`	`The biggest I think is +800`
`05:29.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`you also have horrible ap multipliers on your instants :P`
`05:29.18`	`PogoTribal`	`Yeah, it's retarded.`
`05:29.41`	`Thrae`	`Actually, our AP multiplers were recently increased. Swipe is a good example`
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`05:40.29`	`vithos`	`anyone ever had WoW ignore the enabled/disabled addon selections?`
`05:41.34`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r27405 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua:`
`05:41.34`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_QuestsFu :`
`05:41.34`	`CIA-17`	`- Korean Language Parsing fix and add :) (Line 1084)`
`05:41.51`	`vithos`	`heh. my AddOns.txt has a line that says ": enabled"`
`05:43.43`	`Feldia`	`anyone else noticed issues with gmail + auctioneer?`
`05:44.01`	`ckknight`	`gmail no longer exists`
`05:44.05`	`Feldia`	`well`
`05:44.07`	`Feldia`	`I still use it!`
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`05:44.21`	Funkeh`	`remove it and get Postal`
`05:44.33`	`Thrae`	`The author went Postal, ending the life of Gmail.`
`05:45.36`	vid`	`i still use gmail also`
`05:45.37`	vid`	`:`
`05:45.38`	vid`	`:)(`
`05:45.42`	vid`	`i like the interface better`
`05:45.51`	`Feldia`	`is postal not the same interface?`
`05:45.56`	vid`	`is it?`
`05:45.58`	`Feldia`	`I remember there was a reason I didn't swich`
`05:45.59`	`Thrae`	`I'm about prepared to switch from KC_Items to Auctioneer + something else, unless KC_Items can play nice with Auctioneer.`
`05:46.06`	vid`	`with the checkboxes next to the mails`
`05:46.16`	vid`	`and the mass mail interface`
`05:46.21`	`Thrae`	`Feldia: No, it's a unique design instead of a CT_MailMod rip-off`
`05:46.29`	vid`	`hehe yea`
`05:46.43`	vid`	`i like how gmail hooks into the original mail windows`
`05:46.46`	vid`	`and thats why i use it`
`05:47.00`	vid`	`ill check out postal later when its more refined`
`05:47.04`	`Feldia`	`yea it had it's own stupid interface, which I really didn't like`
`05:47.21`	`Thrae`	`Postal has pretty much no interface`
`05:47.38`	`Thrae`	`You Alt+Click to send items to the person listed in Send Mail`
`05:47.42`	`ckknight`	`I like postal`
`05:47.44`	`ckknight`	`it's simple.`
`05:48.05`	`Thrae`	`Then again, I'd like a confirmation option ;)`
`05:48.05`	vid`	`ah i couldnt figure that out`
`05:48.08`	vid`	`i used to the old method`
`05:48.14`	vid`	`like 30 boxes`
`05:48.17`	vid`	`drop the items into boxes`
`05:48.19`	vid`	`put persons name up top`
`05:48.20`	vid`	`and hit send`
`05:48.27`	`Thrae`	`"Crap, I just send my Coin Of Rareness Rarity to ISellGoldYa"`
`05:48.28`	vid`	`gives you a confirmation, accept and away it goes`
`05:48.51`	vid`	`i know it was a ctmailmod rip off`
`05:48.53`	vid`	`but im so used to it`
`05:48.54`	vid`	`and it works`
`05:49.04`	vid`	`so f it, ill keep using it until it breaks`
`05:49.36`	`Feldia`	`if gmail ever breaks I'd probably just go back to ctmailmod`
`05:49.56`	vid`	`i think you need the whole ct core now`
`05:49.57`	vid`	`for mailmod`
`05:49.58`	vid`	`:\`
`05:50.16`	`Thrae`	`MailMod is now built into CTMasterMod I think.`
`05:50.23`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27406 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (5 files in 5 dirs):`
`05:50.23`	`CIA-17`	`PeriodicTable-3.0:`
`05:50.23`	`CIA-17`	`- added High King Maulgar, Gruul's Lair`
`05:50.23`	`CIA-17`	`- Loot Update`
`05:50.23`	vid`	`yea :(`
`05:51.01`	`Thrae`	`Personally, I use Chaosmos Mail. It intelligently decides who I should be sending mail to, which is good, since using the addon reduces my FPS down to 1.`
`05:51.57`	`Feldia`	`doesn't sound very good to me`
`05:52.30`	`Thrae`	`I get to pick my options using an automated voice recognition system. I just learned today that instead of saying "whitelist", the recognition system better detects "blind horse droppings in a brown field"`
`05:52.33`	vid`	`ive tried to ace almost everything i use`
`05:52.43`	vid`	`only a few mods i use are non ace`
`05:53.06`	vid`	`necb over chron/ant, flightmap over inflight, think thats it really`
`05:53.18`	vid`	`i got rid of omnicc for cooldowncount and i use kc_items now and dumped auctioneer`
`05:53.41`	vid`	`oh and trinketmenu :P`
`05:53.45`	Funkeh`	`i tried cooldowncount and couldn't see much difference from onicc`
`05:53.53`	Funkeh`	`i use omnicc`
`05:53.54`	vid`	`cooldown count works with autobar/trinketmenu`
`05:54.01`	vid`	`and omnicc wasnt for me`
`05:54.01`	Funkeh`	`i don't use those mods`
`05:54.07`	Funkeh`	`so np for me ^^`
`05:54.11`	vid`	`omnicc had a prob with autobar when cycircled was enabled`
`05:54.18`	`Thrae`	`TrinketMenu can already display numbers for cooldown`
`05:54.22`	vid`	`yea i know`
`05:54.31`	vid`	`but i prefer my cooldown settings to be uniform`
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`05:54.39`	vid`	`so i disable the builtin one`
`05:54.56`	vid`	`so it uses cooldowncount and that way the # scaling, coloring, etc is coordinated with the main bars`
`05:55.07`	Funkeh`	`stupid servers being down`
`05:55.08`	vid`	`i know im picky`
`05:55.09`	vid`	`:P`
`05:55.20`	Funkeh`	`screw it bbl`
`05:55.32`	vid`	`i just wish the masking bug would get fixed`
`05:55.44`	vid`	`but ive pretty much given up hope since no one has acknowledged it exists :P`
`05:55.53`	vid`	`and its really only aesthetic`
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`06:06.46`	`tjs`	`TOS question`
`06:07.12`	`tjs`	`I use gatherer, I am herb/alch, I'm also a programmer waggles eyebrows who just discovered mapwow.com`
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`06:07.37`	`tjs`	`after a quick look in WTF I find a plain text database, and a google API for sucking down every herb location in the game`
`06:07.51`	`Mobeater`	`ok, if I use myTextureAreaName:SetTexture(r,g,b); I can replace rgb with values and change my texture color, for the life of me, I can not do the same with a font string i.e. myFontString:SetTexture(r,g,b); or myFontString:SetColor(r,g,b) etc, any hints here? I am having diff figuring all the coloring aspects out :(`
`06:08.09`	`tjs`	`would joining the dots on this one get me banned?`
`06:08.28`	`tjs`	`is there any rule against manually editing stuff in your WTF folder?`
`06:08.51`	`Mobeater`	`what are you wanting to edit in the WTF folder?`
`06:09.18`	`Thrae`	`tjs: WTF is all user configuration data. It's fair game.`
`06:09.26`	`tjs`	`I was thinking I'd write a little script tonight to suck down every herb location from mapwow.com and write out a new version of my gatherer database`
`06:09.29`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`considering everything in the WTF folder is user/character settings, which you can already change and edit within the game itself, and remove entirely if you wanted.. then uh.. no.. they dont care what you do with those files`
`06:09.40`	`tjs`	`I'm wondering if that would get me banned`
`06:09.44`	vid`	`http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1739699/`
`06:09.45`	vid`	`lol`
`06:09.58`	`Thrae`	`No, people have already done that, with Gatherer, MobInfo, etc. databases distributed`
`06:10.04`	`tjs`	`oh`
`06:10.08`	`Thrae`	`I would use Cartographer myself ;)`
`06:10.25`	`tjs`	`I've not tried cartographer, what does it do?`
`06:10.33`	`Cartas`	`Makes the map better.`
`06:10.40`	`Thrae`	`Cartographer is a framework for dealing with the World Map and Minimap.`
`06:10.44`	`tjs`	`oh`
`06:10.57`	`tjs`	`are there cartographer herb dbs ?`
`06:11.02`	`Thrae`	`The POC was a Gatherer and Atlas replacement.`
`06:11.27`	`Thrae`	`No, Cartographer is too new for that. But it saves everything in a SV database like all other mods.`
`06:11.43`	`tjs`	`k`
`06:13.34`	`tjs`	`will take a look at cart, heading home now, thx for the info :)`
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`06:14.52`	`Mobeater`	`is there a way to change the color of a <FontString> by setting it inside the lua within a function?`
`06:16.13`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r27407 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua: PeriodicTable-3.0: Not a thing. (commit to inactive files of KZ bosses as well as a correction to fishing gear)`
`06:16.18`	`Thrae`	`Nay strange Mobeater! You musnt dwell inside the Lua, for it be a fierce beast!`
`06:16.50`	`Mobeater`	`lol, I will keep looking, there has to be a way, but thanks fer the respnse mate`
`06:16.53`	`Thrae`	`...Just use SetTextColor(r,g,b,a), as you would SetText(text,r,g,b,a).`
`06:16.54`	`Mobeater`	`response*`
`06:17.10`	`Mobeater`	`thank you Thrae`
`06:17.15`	`Thrae`	`wowwiki.com has an extensive list of the Widget API (Frames are a widget)`
`06:17.35`	`Mobeater`	`okies, it is within the widget business then, thank you! mental note made!`
`06:18.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`YOU'RE a widget`
`06:19.11`	`Gngsk`	`what's a widget?`
`06:19.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`you, as i noted.`
`06:19.40`	`Gngsk`	`awesome`
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`06:21.45`	`kergoth`	`hmm, gratuity's find method is not liking me`
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`06:24.06`	`kergoth`	`local speed = G:Find(WEAPON_SPEED .. ' (%d+%.%d+)')`
`06:24.07`	`kergoth`	`returns 1 instead of 1.8`
`06:24.09`	`kergoth`	`oddly enough`
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`06:41.14`	`neenee`	`hm. druids get an epic flight form soon, but the training cost is still the same.`
`06:42.19`	`Silviu-`	`neenee they get epic too ?`
`06:44.09`	`neenee`	`No, not 'too'`
`06:44.33`	`neenee`	`They just get epic flying form, involving a quest to get it, but the riding skill cost is still 5k like it is for everyone else.`
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`06:45.57`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`thats not so bad. what's bullshit is that they get 225 for free.`
`06:46.13`	`Silviu-`	`And of they can "mount" in combat`
`06:46.13`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
`06:46.19`	`Silviu-`	`And run away like chickens ^^`
`06:46.24`	`Feldia`	`they can't use it in combat`
`06:46.32`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah, cant use flight form in combat`
`06:46.32`	`Feldia`	`it is, however, instant cast`
`06:46.39`	`ckknight`	`hrm, hopefully Slouken will look into his heart and grant me fixes to texture bleeding: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63167579&sid=1&pageNo=6`
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`06:49.48`	`neenee`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=74727492&sid=1&pageNo=1 <-- about the epic flight form`
`06:53.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`really, that's what they should have odne for the pally and lock epic mounts too. force the large gold cost as a pre-req to starting hte quest`
`06:56.13`	`neenee`	`Why?`
`06:57.36`	`neenee`	`I see many Paladins with epics and such and without their epic Paladin mount now, because they weren't able to do the quest line. They're just riding the normal horse or one of those PvP mounts :\| That's sad.`
`06:58.03`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`because it was too easy to cheese the cost so you only had to pay a fraction of the epic mount cost.`
`06:58.39`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Hey, the Pally and Warlock epic mounts are far from "free"`
`06:58.43`	`Silviu-`	Well i`m a warlock have the epicmount but still prefer r11 tiger :)
`06:59.09`	`neenee`	`It was still about half or more of the cost and the time/effort for the quests was a lot too`
`06:59.21`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ZealotOnAStick: never said they were free. But a smart/industrious person could pay 200-300g and get their epic.`
`06:59.24`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Back when I did it for my Dreadsteed, it ended up costing me about 450g (would have been more if I'd bought rather than farmed or had guildmate help on a lot of the mats) and it was a lot, lot more work and effort than just farming some more gold and buying a mount.`
`06:59.53`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`NightHawkTheSane: No, a well connected person could. Not smart/industrious.`
`07:00.14`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`It's not about being smart or industrious, it's about knowing people who already have the tradeable non-consumed costly mats.`
`07:00.18`	`Silviu-`	`ZealotOnAStick u read what i said to u some days ago about Voyeur ?`
`07:00.20`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`meh, semantics, point being it was possible`
`07:00.33`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Silviu-: Where was it said?`
`07:01.15`	`Silviu-`	ZealotOnAStick here, it was about that it don`t show when inspecting how many pieces of 1 set he haves
`07:01.19`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`since I don't remember, probably not. If it's on the forum, I can go check now, if it was in here, then no, I very most likely missed it.`
`07:01.29`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Yeah, I've noticed the same thing.`
`07:01.40`	`Silviu-`	`Oky ;)`
`07:01.42`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`It's an effect of the item caching, and I'm not sure how to try to solve it.`
`07:02.17`	`Silviu-`	It`s not a big deal, just wanted to let u know in case u did not notice, but u did :P
`07:02.30`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`it's a little annoying, to be honest.`
`07:02.46`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I almost disabled voyeur today for a while.`
`07:02.50`	`Silviu-`	`^^`
`07:03.04`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I've just got to really back-burner a lot of things right now due to other concerns.`
`07:09.18`	`art3mis`	`thats not very zealoty`
`07:09.46`	`art3mis`	`you should be extolling the virtues of it an not listening to complaints or acknowledging that its broken ;P`
`07:12.08`	`art3mis`	`ya know`
`07:12.16`	`art3mis`	`adult swim used to be awesome`
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`07:12.31`	`art3mis`	`now they just keep putting stupid real people stuff on`
`07:12.42`	`art3mis`	`and complete garbage thats not even so stupid its funny`
`07:15.37`	`art3mis`	`it's bender the offender vs the chaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnn smoker`
`07:16.25`	`Myrathi`	`Hard to smoke chains. Too metallic.`
`07:17.51`	`art3mis`	`silence!`
`07:17.56`	`Myrathi`	`Pff.`
`07:18.04`	`art3mis`	`go watch "everyone loves the hypno toad"`
`07:18.24`	`art3mis`	`i swear the hypno toad is the single greatest createst creature ever`
`07:18.30`	`art3mis`	`and only because of the noise`
`07:18.59`	`Gngsk`	`yeah, that noise is great`
`07:19.23`	`art3mis`	`s/createst/created/g`
`07:19.25`	`CIA-17`	`03adirelle * r27408 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua:`
`07:19.25`	`CIA-17`	`Cartographer_Quests:`
`07:19.25`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed a bug when repeatable quest will switch status between done and repeatable for each turnin,`
`07:19.25`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed moving NPC issue.`
`07:20.21`	`art3mis`	`the brain slugs are pretty awesome too`
`07:20.50`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Adult Swim needs more Venture Brothers, ATHF, etc. Less Assy McGee, a negative amount of Pee Wee . . .`
`07:21.09`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Frisky Dingo is also teh awesomez.`
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`07:25.07`	`art3mis`	`AS stuff that sucks: 12oz mouse, tom goes to the mayor, anything with the tom goes to the mayor people, assey mgee, anything with real live people`
`07:25.31`	`art3mis`	`if it wasnt for venture bros. it would have died when Muph did`
`07:26.00`	`art3mis`	`the guys who made venture bros. made the tick`
`07:26.17`	`art3mis`	`thats why brock is patrick warburton, the guy who played the tick in the RL version`
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`07:26.52`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`That reminds me, I need to download that new show he's in.`
`07:27.24`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Robot Chicken is also sometimes good.`
`07:27.38`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`and Morel Orel at times.`
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`07:35.42`	`Myrathi`	`art3mis: http://glorioushypnotoad.ytmnd.com/`
`07:35.43`	`Myrathi`	`:P`
`07:36.59`	`art3mis`	`hah`
`07:37.19`	`Myrathi`	`All glory to the bookmark folder.`
`07:37.34`	`art3mis`	`yup thats my new active desktop ;P`
`07:41.48`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r27409 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (6 files in 5 dirs):`
`07:41.48`	`CIA-17`	`PeriodicTable-3.0: Populate KZ boss loot (any missing?), fix a dataminer`
`07:41.48`	`CIA-17`	`scoping problem, fix Tradeskill.Tool.Fishing.Gear`
`07:49.25`	`ckknight`	`~hypnotoad`
`07:49.33`	`purl`	`All glory to the hypnotoad! CLAP. CLAP.`
`07:50.35`	`CIA-17`	`03damjau * r27410 10Baggins/Baggins-koKR.lua: Baggins: update koKR locals`
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`08:13.43`	`AKX`	`Hum`
`08:14.02`	`AKX`	`Whom do I ask for a SVN password again? (I had an account before the... whatever wipe it was that happened)`
`08:17.04`	`ckknight`	`AKX: I believe you have to fill out the form on the website`
`08:17.11`	`AKX`	`Righto.`
`08:18.33`	`sylvanaar`	`ZealotOnAStick more Venture Bros FTW`
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`08:21.51`	`Aenslaed`	`how do you go about reporting bugs for some of the wowace mods?`
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`08:22.35`	`Gigaknight`	`Anyone having login troubles?`
`08:22.47`	`Gigaknight`	`my loading bar goes to full then just... stops`
`08:22.54`	`Gigaknight`	`i have to alt f4 it..`
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`08:25.56`	`nee\|work`	`I have login problems but that's due to wednesday-morning maintenance ;)`
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`08:26.39`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`The only problems I'm having is the fact that fishing is absurdely boring`
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`08:40.46`	`CIA-17`	`03pettigrow * r27411 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:`
`08:40.46`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`08:40.46`	`CIA-17`	`- Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: frFR Update`
`08:40.53`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r27412 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: ParserLib : Updated locale koKR (for Optimizer)`
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`08:42.34`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r27413 10BigWigs/filelist.wau: BigWigs: added filelist.wau for WAU updating automatic LoD`
`08:43.28`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r27414 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.toc: WitchHunt: .toc update`
`08:44.33`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r27415 10BigWigs/filelist.wau: BigWigs: add Karazhan to filelist.wau as well`
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`09:11.02`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r27416 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: started on some plumbing for transcripts in the debugger`
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`09:13.31`	`Teshnor`	`hiya`
`09:18.36`	`nee\|work`	`Hello`
`09:19.31`	`Teshnor`	`hmm, I am doing a function to check probability`
`09:20.04`	`Teshnor`	`I got the percentage of how often something should occur, but now I need to check if it will or not :)`
`09:20.08`	`Teshnor`	`local range = 100/probability`
`09:20.09`	`nee\|work`	`:)`
`09:20.17`	`Teshnor`	`if (math.random(1, range) == 1) then return true end`
`09:20.22`	`Teshnor`	`that should work, right?`
`09:20.55`	`Teshnor`	`well, I need to floor the range value though :p`
`09:21.03`	`ckknight`	`um`
`09:21.06`	`ckknight`	`better way`
`09:21.09`	`Teshnor`	`local range = floor(100/probability)`
`09:21.16`	`ckknight`	`if math.random(1, 100) <= range then`
`09:21.32`	`Teshnor`	`uhm, no that wouldn'`
`09:21.33`	`ckknight`	`assuming range is [0, 100]`
`09:21.35`	`Teshnor`	`wouldn't work`
`09:21.41`	`ckknight`	`why wouldn't it?`
`09:21.50`	`Teshnor`	`that would give a 33% chance :)`
`09:21.52`	`Teshnor`	`not 3%`
`09:21.57`	`ckknight`	`0.3%?`
`09:22.08`	`ckknight`	`then do if math.random() <= range then`
`09:22.09`	`ckknight`	`tada`
`09:22.18`	`Teshnor`	`let's say probability is 3%`
`09:22.19`	`ckknight`	`and it's accurate without rounding issues`
`09:22.28`	`ckknight`	`then range = 0.03`
`09:22.31`	`ckknight`	`right?`
`09:22.35`	`ckknight`	`math.random() returns [0, 1]`
`09:23.01`	`Teshnor`	`yeah`
`09:23.04`	`Teshnor`	`hold on`
`09:23.35`	`Teshnor`	`still wouldn't work :)`
`09:23.36`	`Teshnor`	`that would be 50% chance hehe`
`09:23.57`	`Teshnor`	`I need 100 different values to represent chance`
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`09:24.38`	`Teshnor`	`to randomly hit 1 of 100 is 1% chance, right?`
`09:25.09`	`vhaarr`	`50%? How?`
`09:25.10`	`Teshnor`	`so if chance should be 3%, I just divide 100/3... to hit 1 of 33 is 3% chance`
`09:25.30`	`Teshnor`	`vhaarr: math.random will return 1 or 0... 50% chance for each`
`09:25.35`	`vhaarr`	`No?`
`09:25.37`	`ckknight`	`dude, use math.random()`
`09:25.38`	`vhaarr`	`Read the freaking docs.`
`09:25.43`	`ckknight`	`seriously`
`09:25.51`	`ckknight`	`it doesn't return 0 or 1`
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`09:25.56`	`Teshnor`	`oh, it return float`
`09:25.58`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: That won't work either, will it? Since it can also return numbers below 0.001?`
`09:26.00`	`ckknight`	`it returns all the numbers between 0 and 1`
`09:26.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`....`
`09:26.12`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr: no problem there, equal chance of returning 0.999`
`09:26.19`	`vhaarr`	`So he won't get a 1 in 100 with math.random().`
`09:26.23`	`vhaarr`	`ah`
`09:26.24`	`vhaarr`	`Indeed.`
`09:26.31`	`ckknight`	`math.random() <= 0.01`
`09:26.38`	`ckknight`	`tada, 1/100 chance`
`09:26.42`	`Teshnor`	`yeah I get it`
`09:26.49`	`ckknight`	`or for even more clarity, math.random() <= 1/100`
`09:26.56`	`ckknight`	`next time, read the docs`
`09:26.58`	`Teshnor`	`didn't get it returned float...`
`09:27.09`	`ckknight`	`yea, cause you gave integer values`
`09:27.20`	`Teshnor`	`I am reading the docs, but I was snowed in that default values where 0,1`
`09:27.25`	`ckknight`	`math.random([start], finish) returns an int`
`09:27.37`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27417 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac-DefaultsBase.lua:`
`09:27.37`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`09:27.37`	`CIA-17`	`- 'Bout time I started working on this branch again; merge in some trunk changes to defaults.`
`09:28.00`	`Gigaknight`	`Any mages around?`
`09:28.06`	`Teshnor`	`but I guess working with ints isn't as heavy on the resources :)`
`09:28.31`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: i'm a mage, sup?`
`09:29.00`	`Gigaknight`	`I'm trying to pick a build, frost.`
`09:29.15`	`Gigaknight`	`I'm 70 and want to grind out the gold for epic riding skill.`
`09:29.23`	`Gigaknight`	`Trying to get my head around frostbolts`
`09:29.41`	`Gigaknight`	`should i skip Improved Frostbolt, and make sure to get Empowered Frostbolt?`
`09:29.44`	`nymbia`	`i'd suggest 40 arcane 21 frost. mana regen is pwnage for farming.`
`09:29.56`	`nymbia`	`nah improved frostbolt is crucial`
`09:29.59`	`abbat_w`	`=)`
`09:30.15`	`Adirelle\|work`	`erf... just checked miranda, don't like it, i'd stick to gaim+xchat`
`09:30.15`	`abbat_w`	`just grinding useless if you need 6k gold ;)`
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`09:30.27`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`giga, do all the quests you may have skipped. good gold at 70`
`09:30.29`	`abbat_w`	`Try to pickup mining and gather minerals`
`09:30.37`	`abbat_w`	`And do all quests`
`09:30.51`	`Gigaknight`	`abbat_w, elemental ridge in nagrand is where i'm grinding`
`09:31.01`	`abbat_w`	`All gring here`
`09:31.01`	`Gigaknight`	`mining seems like a real fucker to level.`
`09:31.13`	`abbat_w`	`And now primal air / fire costs about 10g each`
`09:31.18`	`shieldb`	`you can also try to play the AH if you have a decently high jewelcrafting skill`
`09:31.29`	`Gigaknight`	`NightHawkTheSane, yeah i'm just burnt out over questing`
`09:31.45`	`Gigaknight`	`nymbia, but imp. FB got nerfed...?`
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`09:31.48`	`shieldb`	`I find I can make decent money by buying up a bunch of adamantite ore, prospecting all the gems out of it, then selling the gems back on the AH for more then I paid for the ore in the first place`
`09:31.49`	`ckknight`	`what's that syndrome called when your eyes are too far apart from each other?`
`09:31.58`	`shieldb`	`walleyed?`
`09:32.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Gigaknight: ImpFB is still a dps increase. just not as much as it used to be`
`09:32.01`	`shieldb`	`as opposed to crosseyed`
`09:32.14`	`Gigaknight`	`ok`
`09:32.15`	`ckknight`	`no, physically further from the nose`
`09:32.16`	`Gigaknight`	`with arc/frost`
`09:32.24`	`Gigaknight`	`I lose a lot of survivability`
`09:32.24`	`shieldb`	`no idea on that, then`
`09:32.25`	`Gigaknight`	`:(`
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`09:33.04`	`CIA-17`	`03gits * r27418 10Acolyte/ (16 files in 3 dirs):`
`09:33.04`	`CIA-17`	`Acolyte:`
`09:33.04`	`CIA-17`	`- INFO: new database structure, please delete Acolyte.lua in saved variables folder`
`09:33.04`	`CIA-17`	`- FIX: Imp button`
`09:33.04`	`CIA-17`	`- CHANGE: just internal things, like the spellcache`
`09:33.05`	`CIA-17`	`- ADD: Babble-Class-2.0 (Acolyte will get auto disabled if player is no warlock), AceModuleCore-2.0 (easier module management) and AceDebug-2.0`
`09:34.03`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: it's still a massive damage increase overall. you lose 10% of yyour damage coefficient (which turns out to be something like 5-6% of your DPS) and gain like 20% dps from the talent.`
`09:34.07`	`ckknight`	`wtf, just check select(2, UnitClass("player")) == "WARLOCK"`
`09:34.18`	`ckknight`	`fail for gits.`
`09:34.43`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r27419 10ACP/ACP.toc: ACP: Wiki metadata`
`09:34.53`	`Gigaknight`	`nymbia, but I love ice barrier`
`09:34.56`	`vhaarr`	`Once again, a script that forces committers to be on IRC would be a good thing.`
`09:35.02`	`Ani\|`	`kk ckknight :<`
`09:35.17`	`Gigaknight`	`nymbia, can you whack up a build on www.wowhead.com for me? I'd love that`
`09:35.32`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: well, you dont need it for farming the plateau ;)`
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`09:36.09`	`Adirelle\|work`	`erf, there's some complaints about carto broadcasting...`
`09:36.24`	`ckknight`	`Adirelle\|work: ?`
`09:36.43`	`Adirelle\|work`	`ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4661.0`
`09:36.49`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: this was my leveling build: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Rf0y0ofzTGziZZVi0c0f0o`
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`09:37.01`	`Adirelle\|work`	`ckknight: it's quite anecdotic because he is somewhat paranoid`
`09:37.18`	`ckknight`	`um, you don't autoshare.`
`09:38.16`	`[Ammo]`	`you only share with NoteShare`
`09:38.23`	`[Ammo]`	`hence the name of that separate module`
`09:38.53`	`Gigaknight`	`nymbia, what sort of damage were you doing with that build?`
`09:39.17`	`Silviu-`	`Maybe he just is annoyed that ppl from guild see him on map where he is :)`
`09:39.19`	`Adirelle\|work`	`about note, yes, but it is true that the guild position can't be disabled`
`09:39.33`	`ckknight`	`yea, nor do I think it should be`
`09:39.43`	`ckknight`	`responded.`
`09:39.54`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: i respecced fire after i got my epic and finished all the solo quests.. but iirc, it was like 1400 noncrits 3200 crits`
`09:41.08`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: if you're willing to part with the defensive stuff, the mana regen and hard hitting are totally worth it for farming.`
`09:41.20`	`Adirelle\|work`	`anyone noticed bugs with cart instanceloot ?`
`09:41.23`	`Silviu-`	`question, anyone know around when 2.1 will be released ? ;)`
`09:41.58`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Silviu-: btw, is there a 2.1 patchlog ?`
`09:42.06`	`ckknight`	`shieldb: it's orbital hypertelorism, btw`
`09:42.29`	`shieldb`	`ckknight, always useful to pick up an additional bit of informaiton I suppose :)`
`09:42.40`	`ckknight`	`someone in my class has it`
`09:42.47`	`ckknight`	`well, directed study`
`09:42.52`	`Silviu-`	`Adirelle\|work i only saw ui changes`
`09:43.01`	`ckknight`	`she's like a German foreign exchange student`
`09:43.02`	`Gigaknight`	`yeah nymbia, what about ice lance?`
`09:43.08`	`ckknight`	`contemplating asking her out...`
`09:43.21`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: 2300 crits`
`09:43.50`	`Gigaknight`	`just normal?`
`09:43.57`	`Gigaknight`	`what about AP+trinket?`
`09:44.25`	`nymbia`	`really, really hard. crit some poor guy for 5600.`
`09:44.32`	`Gigaknight`	`ahha ok`
`09:44.37`	`Gigaknight`	`i'm going to use that exact build`
`09:45.04`	`nymbia`	`;)`
`09:45.33`	`Gigaknight`	`I love Talented`
`09:45.33`	`Gigaknight`	`Paste that url in, and it loads it all up`
`09:45.39`	`nymbia`	`wow, that is hot.`
`09:46.15`	`ckknight`	`it's very nice.`
`09:46.16`	`ckknight`	`I use it`
`09:46.23`	`ckknight`	`I love how it asks before you make a change`
`09:46.26`	`ckknight`	`just for that`
`09:46.32`	`nymbia`	`heh`
`09:47.00`	`sylvanaar`	`i like how it will make them all for you with out asking also - both features are nice`
`09:47.09`	`evl`	`what addon is this? :P`
`09:47.24`	`sylvanaar`	`Talented`
`09:47.25`	`evl`	`aha, nvm :)`
`09:47.27`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27420 10SimpleChatMods/ (SimpleChatMods.toc myconfig.lua): SimpleChatMods: Add myconfig.lua, so people get a common place to edit settings - also, someone could document them here and add more settings. I can't be arsed.`
`09:47.54`	`Gigaknight`	`it's awesome`
`09:47.57`	`Gigaknight`	`ace2 too`
`09:48.03`	`Gigaknight`	`nymbia, What armour do you grind with?`
`09:48.07`	`CIA-17`	`03gits * r27421 10Acolyte/ (. Acolyte.toc Core.lua):`
`09:48.07`	`CIA-17`	`Acolyte:`
`09:48.07`	`CIA-17`	`- removed Babble-Class, ask ckknight why ^^`
`09:48.17`	`ckknight`	`ask your mom why!`
`09:48.21`	`ckknight`	`burn.`
`09:48.29`	`Ani\|`	`hehe... :p`
`09:49.25`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: eh, normal stuff. which.. when i was leveling was quest blues and a couple pieces of t2.5/t3`
`09:52.00`	`Gigaknight`	`nah i mean ice armour etc`
`09:52.34`	`nymbia`	`OH`
`09:52.36`	`nymbia`	`mage armor`
`09:52.44`	`nymbia`	`mana regen!`
`09:53.18`	`nymbia`	`leaves you very squishy if'n a rogue wants a free kill, but`
`09:53.30`	`ckknight`	`what if dating were more like WoW...`
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`09:53.41`	`ckknight`	`grind the crappy dates till it goes gray, I guess`
`09:53.59`	`nymbia`	`ckknight: "LFG sex" ?`
`09:54.00`	`ckknight`	`or just get someone to twink you (whorehouse)`
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`09:54.13`	`ckknight`	`lol, nymbia`
`09:54.44`	`Myrathi`	`Naw. That'd be "WTB sex"`
`09:54.54`	`nymbia`	`haha`
`09:55.10`	`ckknight`	`lol, Myrathi`
`09:55.21`	`ckknight`	`then it turns out they're really a guy anyways`
`09:55.30`	`nymbia`	`hahaha`
`09:55.31`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`The PA shirt comes to mind.`
`09:55.34`	`Myrathi`	`And you can get that in any good Goldshire inn, or so /1 would suggest.`
`09:56.20`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`WTS [Wang] <-- Epic Purple (not going to bother to figure out how to do the color codes for IRC)`
`09:56.39`	`nymbia`	`lol`
`09:56.50`	`Silviu-`	`ZealotOnAStick Ctrl+K`
`09:56.55`	`Myrathi`	`13[Wang]`
`09:56.56`	`Silviu-`	`:P`
`09:56.57`	`Gigaknight`	`nymbia, do you write any wow addons?`
`09:57.03`	`Gigaknight`	`I've seen your nick somewhere`
`09:57.12`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Nymbia writes awesome stuff.`
`09:57.13`	`Myrathi`	`LonelyHearts ads.`
`09:57.16`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: so i' told`
`09:57.17`	`Silviu-`	`Gigaknight PeriodicTable 3.0`
`09:57.17`	`Myrathi`	`;)`
`09:57.17`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
`09:57.41`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`GrindStatus, Manufac . . . other stuff I should remember but don't.`
`09:57.43`	`nymbia`	`s/i'/i'm/`
`09:57.45`	`sylvanaar`	`or the Perl unit frames`
`09:57.55`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Uhm, the nifty binding thing, uh . . .`
`09:58.05`	`nymbia`	`that's the one most people remember sylvanaar ;)`
`09:58.21`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, cause the first word was your name lol`
`09:58.36`	`nymbia`	`even though i havent updated it in a solid year`
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`09:59.15`	`Myrathi`	`As opposed to.. a liquid year? /duck`
`09:59.16`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I'm really surprised there haven't been Perl/X-Perl layouts for AGUF yet (publically, at any rate)`
`09:59.26`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`No, we banned liquid time.`
`09:59.29`	`Myrathi`	`Yarr... made explorer explode again.`
`09:59.33`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Strictly solids and gases.`
`09:59.42`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r27422 10SimpleChatMods/timestamps.lua: SimpleChatMods: fixing tainting of macros`
`09:59.42`	`Myrathi`	`Gassy years... I can relate.`
`09:59.47`	`nymbia`	`gaseous year?`
`09:59.48`	`sylvanaar`	`I dont like x-perl's layouts, but i like its functionality`
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`10:00.04`	`vithos`	`same.`
`10:00.11`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`A few folks in my guild rave about X-Perl, and it looks like it has some nice stuff.`
`10:00.17`	`Gigaknight`	`I'm feeling the lower crit chance nymbia`
`10:00.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah. i use pcuf because it functions really well, its kinda ugly as sin though`
`10:00.22`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`But I'm kinda too lazy to change Unit Frames again.`
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`10:00.23`	`Gigaknight`	`but 9296 mana is hot`
`10:00.42`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah x-perl is not that pretty, but man it work flawlessly`
`10:00.51`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`especially since I'm concerned I might just decide that I didn't like it and go back to agUF.`
`10:00.54`	`avery`	`i use ace2 since some days, i have the problem that i have after every action(end of fight) 0,5 seconds lag, someone knows this problem?`
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`10:01.20`	`ckknight`	`hrm, nope`
`10:01.34`	`avery`	`same problem @ 2. pc`
`10:02.00`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27423 10SimpleChatMods/ (channelnames.lua playernames.lua): SimpleChatMods: Proper hooks.`
`10:03.32`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: yeah. i'm liking fire now.. 26% crit. hits harder relative to frost than it did at 60 since they didnt make the new ranks useless (level 65 frostbolt... -1 damage for 10 more mana, yay). lots more mana problems though, which is a tricky adjustment after leveling to 70 as arcane`
`10:03.50`	`nevcairiel`	`what happend to Cartographer_Vendors?`
`10:04.03`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`It went out of business.`
`10:04.53`	`Gigaknight`	`yeah nymbia, plus you have hardly any survivability.`
`10:05.03`	`nymbia`	`avery: try disabling addons until it goes away.`
`10:05.19`	`ckknight`	`Fetal Alcohol Syndrome is bad`
`10:05.25`	`ckknight`	`children under 4 shouldn't drink...`
`10:05.31`	`Chosi`	`anyone got a Fubar_KCIFu replacement?`
`10:05.35`	`Chosi`	`kcifu sucks`
`10:05.46`	`Chosi`	`and doesn't work for deDE`
`10:05.48`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: yeah. i'm surprised i didnt have more problems, what with leveling on a pvp server and all.`
`10:06.07`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r27424 10SimpleChatMods/ (playernames.lua timestamps.lua): SimpleChatMods: allow setting of left and right bracket for playernames, and tweak timestamps`
`10:06.22`	`avery`	`i will try`
`10:06.34`	`avery`	`:/`
`10:06.36`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: once you blow AP/POM, if they arent dead, you get to run around like a chicken with your head cut off. no fun.`
`10:06.41`	`sylvanaar`	`=(`
`10:08.14`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit 07PT3 * r27425 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.lua MendeleevCats.lua):`
`10:08.14`	`CIA-17`	`Mendeleev:`
`10:08.14`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:08.14`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:08.52`	`Gigaknight`	`yeah nymbia true`
`10:09.06`	`Gigaknight`	`i wouldnt mind trying arc/fire once i get my epic mount`
`10:11.31`	`*** join/#wowace Kadish___ (n=Kadish@anubis.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu)`
`10:11.31`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: i figured i wasn't gonna like fire, but i wanted to try it at 70.. it's pretty fun. which is a good thing since arcane is bad for pvp and i dislike the later talents in the frost tree.. ice barrier and water elemental just dont fit well with my play style`
`10:11.36`	`odt`	`what addon put stuff in the trade window when alt-clicking it in the inventory?`
`10:11.38`	`odt`	`used to have it, i'm sure`
`10:12.28`	`Gigaknight`	`yeah nymbia what build did you use?`
`10:12.59`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: for frost or fire?`
`10:13.07`	`vhaarr`	`odt: AltClickToAdditem.`
`10:13.55`	`odt`	`thanks, kinda obvious name`
`10:14.43`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r27426 10SimpleChatMods/playernames.lua: SimpleChatMods: optionally add mouseover units, and parse chatmsgsystem`
`10:15.18`	Beo`Gi`Oh	`http://tinypic.com/343p3zs.jpg - What mod is the one in the middle, the IceHUD looking one? I like it.`
`10:15.41`	`Health`	`DHUD`
`10:15.47`	`Health`	`The one and only`
`10:15.59`	Beo`Gi`Oh	`thanks`
`10:16.09`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`looks like Drathal's Hud or MetaHud`
`10:16.19`	`Hjalte`	`It could be Metahud`
`10:16.23`	`Elkano`	`gnahaha ^^ http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20070205.jpg`
`10:16.38`	Beo`Gi`Oh	`So I'll get all 3, and test them.`
`10:16.41`	`Health`	`Drathal's Hud is the same as DHUD`
`10:16.42`	Beo`Gi`Oh	`Easy enough`
`10:16.52`	`Gigaknight`	`for fire @ 70 nymbia`
`10:17.02`	`odt`	`and what's the buff addon there?`
`10:17.02`	`Health`	`And.. it is DHUD, I use it`
`10:18.04`	`Health`	`aybe metahud is a fork of dhud tho, there is someone maintaining the original dhud again tho`
`10:18.33`	`*** join/#wowace Arrowmaster (i=Arrow@cpe-71-72-167-136.woh.res.rr.com)`
`10:18.37`	Beo`Gi`Oh	`I was using Archud for a while`
`10:18.40`	Beo`Gi`Oh	`but that one is nicer`
`10:18.45`	Beo`Gi`Oh	`so which is it ;P`
`10:18.54`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=kf0y0ofZvg0zf0coeot`
`10:19.43`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Elkano: is that the Vista time and space one, or the if life was like an MMO one?`
`10:19.52`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Hmm. 05. Gotta be Vista.`
`10:20.11`	`*** join/#wowace Segatron (n=MrX@217.118.90.46)`
`10:20.52`	`nee\|work`	`Elkano: lol. funny :)`
`10:22.00`	`Gigaknight`	`ahh mana arc rather than +dmg arc`
`10:22.59`	`Elkano`	`ZealotOnAStick, its life like MMO`
`10:25.03`	Beo`Gi`Oh	`http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/view-image/?s=http://media5.curse-gaming.com/images/previews/10794/phaytals-dhud-combat.jpg`
`10:25.07`	Beo`Gi`Oh	`Okay, Dhud is crazy.`
`10:25.15`	Beo`Gi`Oh	`It was MetaHUD, btw.`
`10:25.53`	`Chosi`	`is there an ace2 emergency monitor?`
`10:26.52`	`Gngsk`	`eemon?`
`10:27.05`	`ckknight`	`it kinda just switches between yellow, green, and blue randomly, though`
`10:27.26`	`ckknight`	`it doesn't do anything really, just scares you until you stop paying attention`
`10:27.28`	`Chosi`	`where did squishy go?`
`10:27.38`	`Gngsk`	`it got nerfed`
`10:27.44`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r27427 10oRA2/ (Core.lua LoadOnDemand.lua): oRA2: tweak the loading and enabling of oRA2`
`10:27.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`it stoped being developed`
`10:27.55`	`Chosi`	`:\`
`10:28.04`	`Chosi`	`so is there anything like that?`
`10:28.05`	`Gngsk`	`use grid`
`10:28.20`	`Gngsk`	`well, you can't move frames in combat anymore`
`10:28.29`	`Chosi`	`can i change the grid updateinterval?`
`10:28.42`	`Chosi`	`sometimes it's too slow`
`10:28.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`i think`
`10:28.50`	`Gngsk`	`I dunno, I stopped playing my priest since 2.0 went live`
`10:28.53`	`Chosi`	`doesn't update regularly so i get old data on the screen`
`10:31.35`	`nee\|work`	`Chosi: No problems here yet by the way, I reinstalled windows - I think AVG Antivirus might have been the problem. Average framerate is up for me now and I haven't experienced the horrible drop in FPS for days now`
`10:31.40`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r27428 10oRA2/ (9 files in 4 dirs): oRA2: add wau stuffs`
`10:31.53`	`Chosi`	`\o/`
`10:31.59`	`nee\|work`	`:)`
`10:34.07`	`sylvanaar`	`oh FYI - you can prevent WAU from performin unpack operations on a given folder by making a folder <addon name>.nounpack at the same directory level as the folder <addon name>`
`10:35.06`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`When you say "in the same directory level as" - you mean in /Interface/Addons/ ?`
`10:35.29`	`sylvanaar`	`yes`
`10:35.57`	`sylvanaar`	`because thats currently the only place the unpack actually occurs`
`10:36.56`	`sylvanaar`	`so Cartographer + Cartographer.nounpack will keep Carto packed into one folder`
`10:37.39`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r27429 10BigWigs/ (22 files in 11 dirs): BigWigs: rename .tocs for filelist.wau`
`10:38.25`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r27430 10BigWigs/ (bigwigslod.bat bigwigslod.sh): BigWigs: update load .bat and .sh`
`10:38.41`	`sylvanaar`	`so, if ppl ask, "how do i stop it from ..." - thats the answer.`
`10:41.05`	`sylvanaar`	`it also prevents the package from being repacked before being deleted - so best to add it before installing the mod, or uninstalling it and reinstalling it.`
`10:41.46`	`Adirelle\|work`	`http://accordionguy.blogware.com/Photos/2006/05/chuck_norris_toilet_paper.jpg`
`10:42.15`	`nee\|work`	`Adirelle\|work: ouch`
`10:42.33`	`Adirelle\|work`	`nee\|work: read the title : Check Norris' paper !`
`10:42.44`	`Adirelle\|work`	`s/hec/huc/`
`10:42.54`	Beo`Gi`Oh	`Adirelle, this is not Barrens Chat!`
`10:44.38`	`nee\|work`	`Adirelle\|work: Yea, it still looks painful though :)`
`10:44.46`	`nee\|work`	`http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20060130.jpg`
`10:45.01`	`[Ammo]`	`anyone know the hex color for shamans?`
`10:45.08`	`*** join/#wowace MrFreeMan_ (n=freeman@pD9E4589E.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`10:45.19`	`[Wobin]`	`nounpack?`
`10:46.17`	`[Ammo]`	`NoUnPack :p`
`10:46.24`	`[Ammo]`	`methinks`
`10:47.13`	`nee\|work`	`http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20060208.jpg <-- woo - WoW-related`
`10:48.24`	`[Wobin]`	`heh`
`10:49.47`	`nee\|work`	`wow. Showing this to my girlfriend: http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20060213.jpg`
`10:50.57`	`nee\|work`	`Okay, I'll stop now, as I can see myself slipping into the spam-the-IRC-channel-with-comics behaviour.`
`10:51.43`	`[Wobin]`	`It's a disease`
`10:52.10`	`[Wobin]`	`hehe`
`10:52.10`	`[Wobin]`	`aww`
`10:52.13`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r27431 10Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.lua:`
`10:52.13`	`CIA-17`	`Stitch-1.0:`
`10:52.13`	`CIA-17`	`- Hopefully force a full rescan when a skillup is detected -- damn items changing index order. Untested.`
`10:52.48`	`[Wobin]`	`hm`
`10:52.49`	`[Wobin]`	`yay`
`10:52.52`	`[Wobin]`	`friday off`
`10:52.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`nee\|work: it could be worse. you could be in a spam-the-IRC-channel-with-bash-quotes behavior.`
`10:53.03`	`[Wobin]`	`since I worked til 9 the last couple of days =P`
`10:53.05`	`nee\|work`	`NightHawkTheSane: Good point :)`
`10:53.13`	`nee\|work`	`[Wobin]: Huzzah :)`
`10:58.05`	`nee\|work`	`Hm. Valentines' Day soon`
`10:58.42`	`nee\|work`	`What to give a girlfriend who lives in another country and has been sent flowers and cards before? I don't want to send one of those Carebear things though. ponders`
`10:59.03`	`nee\|work`	`I already gave her a new computer, so the geek inside her is satisfied :P`
`10:59.42`	`nee\|work`	`For some reason I thought sharing that in here was a good idea :)`
`11:00.16`	`nee\|work`	`la la`
`11:00.21`	`nee\|work`	`dum dee dum`
`11:00.24`	`nee\|work`	`Nothing to see here`
`11:05.33`	`Gngsk`	`can't go wrong sending her a BOB`
`11:05.44`	`Chosi`	`anyone got an idea which addon causes errors like this one?`
`11:05.45`	`Chosi`	`2007/02/07 11:42:46-98-x17]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'MultiBarRight:SetPoint()'.`
`11:06.12`	`CIA-17`	`03gits * r27432 10Acolyte/ (ChatCmd.lua Modules/SpellCaster.lua):`
`11:06.12`	`CIA-17`	`Acolyte:`
`11:06.12`	`CIA-17`	`- FIX: nil bug in SpellCaster`
`11:06.15`	`*** join/#wowace Gandharva (n=Miranda@dslb-084-057-046-171.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`11:06.41`	`nee\|work`	`Gngsk: What is a BOB?`
`11:08.01`	`Gngsk`	`Battery Operated Boyfriend`
`11:08.03`	`CIA-17`	`03gits * r27433 10Acolyte/Modules/RitualofSummoning.lua:`
`11:08.03`	`CIA-17`	`Acolyte:`
`11:08.03`	`CIA-17`	`- FIX: ups... fixed bug with a bug :8`
`11:08.08`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r27434 10SimpleChatMods/playernames.lua: SimpleChatMods: give shamans their proper color`
`11:09.16`	`nee\|work`	`Gngsk: ah. Interesting suggestion, but nah.`
`11:10.06`	`*** join/#wowace Legorol (i=Legorol@zr205.trin.cam.ac.uk)`
`11:10.33`	`*** join/#wowace kovi (n=nnscript@wrzb-590cf2d7.pool.einsundeins.de)`
`11:23.18`	`evl`	`so`
`11:23.23`	`nee\|work`	`sooo..`
`11:23.25`	`evl`	`Prat is what, and SimpleChatMods is?`
`11:23.29`	`nee\|work`	`er`
`11:23.47`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`buttons!`
`11:24.01`	`nee\|work`	`SimpleChatMods is an non-configurable set of modules, changing the way Chat works/is shown`
`11:24.15`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27435 10Manufac/Manufac/ (Manufac-Defaults.lua Manufac-DefaultsBase.lua Manufac.lua):`
`11:24.15`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`11:24.15`	`CIA-17`	`- Continued de-nastification of utility functions; incremental commit.`
`11:24.22`	`nee\|work`	`Prat is a lot of modules with configuration ability, much more and much heavier than SimpleChatMods`
`11:25.36`	`[Ammo]`	`Prat also changed to use lots of table passing`
`11:25.41`	`[Ammo]`	`evil in league with saan`
`11:25.47`	`[Ammo]`	`s/saan/satan/`
`11:25.55`	`nee\|work`	`SimpleChatMods doesn'`
`11:26.03`	`nee\|work`	`*doesn't contain everything Prat does though`
`11:26.08`	`[Ammo]`	`indeed`
`11:26.12`	`[Ammo]`	`but it doesn't need to`
`11:26.17`	`nee\|work`	`and every time you update, the modules you deleted/did not want, will be back`
`11:26.27`	`[Ammo]`	`shrug`
`11:26.38`	`nee\|work`	`SimpleChatMods seems more like something someone made for personal use but then wanted to share it`
`11:26.43`	`Industrial`	`<--`
`11:26.45`	`[Ammo]`	`the nice thing about SCM is it does exactly what rabbit and me want :p`
`11:26.54`	`[Ammo]`	`and iD`
`11:26.57`	`[Ammo]`	`ofcourse :)`
`11:27.05`	`[Ammo]`	`it even has a config file now!`
`11:27.14`	`Industrial`	`SimpleChatMods was originally idChat, and Prat was built on idChat2 - wich I abandoned`
`11:27.19`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`11:27.23`	`evl`	`Ah,. I see`
`11:27.27`	`evl`	`I liked idchat`
`11:27.31`	`Industrial`	`I just wanted my tag off idchat, and it live on on the svn now :)`
`11:27.39`	`evl`	`I'm still using a perverted version of idMiniMap`
`11:27.53`	`nee\|work`	`I'm still using evl_Scavenger and a modified evl_Fonts :)`
`11:27.53`	`Gngsk`	`same evl`
`11:28.06`	`evl`	`:)`
`11:28.16`	`sylvanaar`	`allright, i'll bite, what is wrong with prat's table passing?`
`11:28.34`	`*** join/#wowace add\\Leialyn (n=unknown@p54B4D9C2.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`11:28.39`	`[Ammo]`	`prat gives me an extra 2kib/s`
`11:28.41`	`[Ammo]`	`in normal situations`
`11:28.55`	`[Ammo]`	`since you changed to that new event system`
`11:29.02`	`[Ammo]`	`that's not worth it for me`
`11:29.11`	`[Ammo]`	`and I actually only used the things SCM offered`
`11:29.13`	`[Ammo]`	`so I switched to that`
`11:29.14`	`evl`	`I just need the buttons to go away tbh`
`11:29.30`	`nee\|work`	`Yes, I'm not fond of the buttons either`
`11:29.44`	`nee\|work`	`and I like the movable/resizable editbox`
`11:29.54`	`nee\|work`	`I used confab for that befoer`
`11:29.56`	`nee\|work`	`*before`
`11:29.58`	`nee\|work`	`it was nice`
`11:29.59`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r27436 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc):`
`11:29.59`	`CIA-17`	`DrDamage:`
`11:30.00`	`CIA-17`	`-Hopefully fixed buff/debuff scanning for localized clients that I broke a few patches ago due to making it more efficient.`
`11:30.01`	`*** join/#wowace Gandharva (n=Miranda@dslb-084-057-046-171.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`11:30.26`	`[Ammo]`	`sylvanaar: it seems you're passing tables for every chat event ,through every module that's registered for it`
`11:30.27`	`Adirelle\|work`	`I'll editbox and buttons moving/fading`
`11:30.30`	`[Ammo]`	`sylvanaar: bad idea imho`
`11:30.30`	`*** join/#wowace Gandharva (n=Miranda@dslb-084-057-046-171.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`11:30.35`	`Adirelle\|work`	`replacing the channel name is fine too`
`11:31.00`	`evl`	`Ah`
`11:31.05`	`evl`	`SimpleChatMods looks nice`
`11:31.08`	`evl`	`reminds me of my addons`
`11:31.15`	`evl`	`they look like they don't do anything :D`
`11:32.24`	`sylvanaar`	`my understanding was table passing was by reference`
`11:33.07`	`nee\|work`	`:)`
`11:33.14`	`[Ammo]`	`sylvanaar: could be but since your changes I noticed a large increase in mem usage`
`11:33.21`	`[Ammo]`	`sylvanaar: the old prat didn't do that`
`11:34.28`	`sylvanaar`	`[Ammo] most of the memory issues were confined to the buttons module, and i have worked hard to root out extra table creations etc.`
`11:34.49`	`[Ammo]`	`it's still sitting at 2-3kib/s idle`
`11:34.59`	`[Ammo]`	`with chatter going on in shattrath`
`11:35.23`	`nee\|work`	`hm. I'll have to check my setup to see what my increase rate is. I haven't looked at memory usage/increase rate in months`
`11:35.54`	`Industrial`	`10.08MB usage, 0.00 increase`
`11:35.57`	`Industrial`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:35.57`	`nee\|work`	`Can SimpleChatMods set a chat windows size smaller than default? My interface won't do without that`
`11:36.09`	`Industrial`	`(yet, compared to some, almsot no extra functionality)`
`11:36.13`	`Industrial`	`almost*`
`11:36.14`	`nee\|work`	`Industrial: You're barely using anything then?`
`11:36.37`	`Elkano`	`I'm normaly at 48MB base + 1-5kb/s :/`
`11:36.53`	`Industrial`	`actionbar unitframes chat`
`11:36.54`	`Industrial`	`bbl`
`11:37.29`	`nee\|work`	`ok`
`11:38.56`	`Elkano`	`well, I hope 2.1.0 will bring a large improvement wrt memory`
`11:39.27`	`nee\|work`	`ditto`
`11:39.47`	`Elkano`	`at least we'll hopefully know whom to blame ;)`
`11:39.57`	`nee\|work`	`The list I use: http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/618/addonlistac0.jpg`
`11:40.00`	`nee\|work`	`:)`
`11:40.21`	`nee\|work`	`I have some non-ace addons which I have no replacement for though, such as SuperInspect and Group Calendar :`
`11:41.12`	`Elkano`	`I'm around 200 addons including libs`
`11:41.40`	`nee\|work`	`wow.`
`11:41.45`	`nee\|work`	`Nowhere near that here anymore.`
`11:43.18`	`Silviu-`	`97 folders including libs and bliz files`
`11:43.19`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
`11:43.31`	`evl`	`Babble-*, does it bring any overhead?`
`11:43.33`	`Elkano`	`well, take Atlas, BigWigs and Cartographer. they come with a bunch of folders if you use soem additional plugins for them`
`11:43.43`	`evl`	`I really hate the fact I have to load all these translations when I'm only using english`
`11:44.22`	`nee\|work`	`I don't use Cartographer anymore and Bigwigs and Ora2 are gone too as I'm not raiding :)`
`11:44.34`	`evl`	`I mean, Babble-Spell is 344kb of ["Abolish Disease"] = true,`
`11:44.42`	`Elkano`	`but at least you are using one of my addons ^^`
`11:45.48`	`nee\|work`	`(which?)`
`11:45.49`	`Elkano`	`FramesResized`
`11:45.49`	`Adirelle\|work`	`does FishingAce CastClick actually works ?`
`11:45.49`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r27437 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: Added key for the mage talent incineration (it's not called Incinerate like in the online talent calculator).`
`11:45.54`	`nee\|work`	`Ah`
`11:45.56`	`nee\|work`	`Yup :)`
`11:46.18`	`evl`	`Gagorian: How much overhead do I get with Babble?`
`11:46.22`	`Adirelle\|work`	`I figured such feature was killed at 2.0`
`11:46.25`	`nee\|work`	`Though you just made me realize I might not need it, as I use nQuestLog and Manufac`
`11:46.25`	`Adirelle\|work`	`very neat`
`11:46.37`	`nee\|work`	`Adirelle\|work: Yup, it works, I use it too`
`11:47.09`	`[Ammo]`	`evl: only the translation used is kept in memory`
`11:47.19`	`[Ammo]`	`evl: so it's only a bit slower in load`
`11:47.26`	`[Ammo]`	`but if you run everything standalone you only load babble once`
`11:47.31`	`evl`	`I do`
`11:47.37`	`evl`	`but it's only used by one addon`
`11:47.57`	`evl`	`I was thinking, is there a way to take BS["Whatever String"] and just make a "fake" addon that just returns the string that was passed?`
`11:48.07`	`[Ammo]`	`only one addin?`
`11:48.11`	`[Ammo]`	`addon`
`11:48.13`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`11:48.13`	`evl`	`Chronometer`
`11:48.16`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r27438 10DrDamage/ (Data/Mage.lua DrDamage.toc):`
`11:48.17`	`CIA-17`	`DrDamage:`
`11:48.17`	`CIA-17`	`-Incinerate -> Incineration`
`11:48.18`	`[Ammo]`	`I have several`
`11:48.25`	`[Ammo]`	`but yeah you could do that`
`11:48.40`	`Silviu-`	`Ahm i think i should run Cartohgrapher, ora2 and bigwigs load on demand stuff :/ cause .. mc, bwl,nax etc are history by now ^^`
`11:48.45`	`sylvanaar`	`well, i dont observe the same memory issue that [Ammo] does, but you never know, prat 2 tries to do something different so, i dont expect everyone to like it`
`11:49.27`	`Gagorian`	`Well, even stuff like oRA2 uses babblespell afaik`
`11:49.29`	`nymbia`	`Gagorian: weird, when did they change that?`
`11:49.32`	`sylvanaar`	`btw [Ammo] the bigwigs stuff looks like its updating correctly`
`11:49.42`	`nymbia`	`Gagorian: the incinerate thing i mean`
`11:49.44`	`Gagorian`	`nymbia: Probably when Incinerate was added as a spell`
`11:49.54`	`Gagorian`	`To prevent confusion`
`11:50.10`	`nee\|work`	`Do I use tekSupport to show addon-specific memory usage increase rate?`
`11:50.28`	`nymbia`	`Gagorian: i remember checking at least in beta... weird.`
`11:50.29`	`[Ammo]`	`sylvanaar: okie`
`11:50.45`	`Gagorian`	`But yeah, BabbleSpell will have overhead for every addon cause, really, there's a lot of translations you wont use.`
`11:51.09`	`Gagorian`	`But then again, if more than one addon relies on it.. it's not that bad considering.`
`11:51.09`	`[Ammo]`	`the main advantage of babblespell is the ease of supporting other locales`
`11:51.36`	`Gagorian`	`Yeah, there's no way I would localize every buff/debuff, spell and talent in my addon`
`11:51.40`	`evl`	`I hate localization :P`
`11:51.42`	`[Ammo]`	`for necronomicon2 the only locale strings I have are actually 'spoken' text etc`
`11:51.54`	`[Ammo]`	`all spells etc are from babblespell`
`11:52.02`	`[Ammo]`	`thus necronomicon2 should work for a warlock in korea as ell`
`11:52.06`	`[Ammo]`	`s/ell/well/`
`11:52.07`	`evl`	`I'd rather have a smoother, faster running game without loading german... or korean`
`11:52.28`	`Silviu-`	`evl true`
`11:52.30`	`[Ammo]`	`it doesn't run any smoother/faster without those locales`
`11:52.37`	`[Ammo]`	`the only thing that is slightly faster is your loadtime`
`11:52.40`	`evl`	`something is loaded`
`11:52.40`	`[Ammo]`	`that is all`
`11:52.48`	`evl`	`364k of tables`
`11:52.48`	`[Ammo]`	`it doesn't make your game smoother`
`11:52.59`	`evl`	`it's cruft :/`
`11:53.04`	`[Ammo]`	`it's a tradeoff`
`11:53.11`	`[Ammo]`	`but no-one forces you to use those addons :)`
`11:53.11`	`nee\|work`	`hehe`
`11:53.12`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27439 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`11:53.12`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`11:53.12`	`CIA-17`	`- More cleanup on utility functions. On to the big menu function...`
`11:53.32`	`[Ammo]`	`if you don't want to use oRA2 because of babblespell I point you to CTRA`
`11:53.46`	`[Ammo]`	`if you don't wat to use BigWigs due to locales I point you to LaVendetta`
`11:54.02`	`[Ammo]`	`:)`
`11:54.07`	`evl`	`CTRA is satan`
`11:54.08`	`evl`	`:/`
`11:55.04`	`Adirelle\|work`	`btw, CTRA and LaVendetta have their own translations, and I'm not sure they are better than AceLocale/Babble`
`11:55.11`	`Gagorian`	`The addons themselves would have more localization without Babble`
`11:56.12`	`Gagorian`	`So that compensates a bit :o`
`11:56.12`	`[Ammo]`	`I'm just saying no-one forces your hand`
`11:56.12`	`haste`	`:3`
`11:56.12`	`Adirelle\|work`	`the only thing that would help is if Blizzard added conditionnal file loading...`
`11:56.12`	`haste`	`That won't happen I guess`
`11:56.27`	`haste`	`it makes it easier to feed information to a add-on, but it's already rather easy tho'`
`11:56.40`	`[Wobin]`	`jesus christ`
`11:56.43`	`[Wobin]`	`It's a lion`
`11:56.51`	`Gagorian`	`Or make the API return non-localized strings as well as localized`
`11:56.52`	`sylvanaar`	`somehow you could just anticipate this non-issue popping up`
`11:56.53`	`Gagorian`	`-_-`
`11:57.21`	`Adirelle\|work`	`at worst, putting all locales into separated files and have a script cleaning up all non-wanted locales...`
`11:57.23`	`sylvanaar`	`LoD localized strings rofl`
`11:57.27`	`[Wobin]`	`Gagorian: Or refer to every single line with a referenceid =)`
`11:57.33`	`sylvanaar`	`where's my gun`
`11:57.47`	`haste`	`[Wobin]: no, that's >:3`
`11:57.55`	`[Wobin]`	`haste`
`11:57.57`	`[Wobin]`	`true`
`11:58.02`	`[Wobin]`	`Jesus christ it's a cat`
`11:58.07`	`haste`	`>:3 = lion, :3 = cat`
`11:58.21`	`sylvanaar`	`cosmos used to have something like that`
`11:58.47`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`"Am I a lion? I don't think of myself as a lion. Though I do have a mighty roar."`
`11:59.03`	`sylvanaar`	`some option you set to 'remove unused locales from memory' whatever that actually did`
`11:59.38`	`[Wobin]`	`I said "Alliance", NightHawk`
`11:59.59`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Oh...`
`12:00.09`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm LoD per locale Babble`
`12:00.12`	`nymbia`	`well its not like the unused ones in babble don't get removed from memory, but they have to get loaded then removed.`
`12:00.12`	`[Ammo]`	`now that is nifty`
`12:01.26`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, probably has more 'sales' value than anything else`
`12:02.39`	`nee\|work`	`hehe: http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20060619.jpg`
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`12:05.10`	`sylvanaar`	`[Ammo] one thing you might consider, is in the LoD tocs adding an extra \|r before the [module], this will put bw/ora in front of the modules in the addon list`
`12:06.18`	`sylvanaar`	`[Ammo] eg. Cartographer \|r[\|cffeda55fBattlegrounds\|r]`
`12:06.29`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm naah`
`12:06.47`	`nee\|work`	`http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20060703.jpg <-- hehe`
`12:06.51`	`nee\|work`	`I enjoyed that game though.`
`12:07.15`	`sylvanaar`	`[Ammo] just trying to save you the hassle of 20 posts askin for it`
`12:07.17`	`nee\|work`	`http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20060705.jpg <-- even better.`
`12:07.32`	`[Ammo]`	`I won't get posts about that`
`12:07.40`	`[Ammo]`	`and if I do I will telll them to drown in horsedung`
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`12:12.55`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r27440 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:`
`12:12.55`	`CIA-17`	`DrDamage:`
`12:12.55`	`CIA-17`	`-Now properly displays DPS with cooldown taken into account for spells that can ignite.`
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`12:20.12`	`mitch0`	`re`
`12:21.08`	`haste`	`er`
`12:21.25`	`mitch0`	`will my frame get drag events if I register for drag, but disable mouse imput (with SetMouseEnabled(fale)) ?`
`12:21.46`	`mitch0`	`erm, EnableMouse even`
`12:26.21`	`Silviu-`	`Need a person who knows a little better then me in batch files, what i want to do: Move Cartographer, ora2, bigwigs, babble2 modules back in main folder; svn up --ignore-externals *; and then run the batch files in those 4 mentioned, anyone have a little time ? ;P`
`12:30.11`	`Silviu-`	`Anyone ? :P`
`12:32.48`	`Silviu-`	`;))`
`12:33.16`	`Adirelle\|work`	`any hunter with a flying mount around ?`
`12:33.44`	`axxo`	`pets don't fly`
`12:33.47`	`axxo`	`possibly fixed next patch`
`12:33.55`	`abbat_w`	`=)))))`
`12:33.57`	`nee\|work`	`How about someone who hunts flying mounts?`
`12:34.14`	`Adirelle\|work`	`oki, read something weird about it on european forums`
`12:34.24`	`nee\|work`	Would Beo`Gi`Oh cool to see cats fly
`12:34.27`	`nee\|work`	`*be`
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`12:35.52`	`Adirelle\|work`	`heh, druid will get an epic flying form`
`12:35.55`	`Adirelle\|work`	`+s`
`12:36.22`	`nee\|work`	`Yup, but my druid will have to wait as it still costs a lot of money`
`12:36.52`	`Adirelle\|work`	`giving it for free would have caused a riot :D`
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`12:37.34`	`Adirelle\|work`	`as it is, it is more RP than anything (except it's an instant)`
`12:37.44`	`axxo`	`how much will it cost,`
`12:38.31`	`nee\|work`	`The same epic flying skill costs`
`12:38.36`	`Adirelle\|work`	`epic riding skill is a prerequisite to the questline`
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`12:39.14`	`Adirelle\|work`	`so you can choose either to have a regular flying epic mount or to start the quest for the epic flying form (or both)`
`12:39.49`	`Adirelle\|work`	`questline costs aren't known yet`
`12:40.13`	`Industrial`	`how fast is flying form?`
`12:40.31`	`Industrial`	`epic flying is 200% ?`
`12:40.38`	`nymbia`	`280`
`12:40.43`	`Industrial`	`o_O`
`12:40.54`	`Adirelle\|work`	`IIRC, flying form speed is flying mount speed`
`12:40.58`	`Industrial`	`whatsepic riding then?`
`12:41.07`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27441 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`12:41.07`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`12:41.07`	`CIA-17`	`- Actually almost back to usable now`
`12:41.23`	`nymbia`	`on the ground?`
`12:41.24`	`Adirelle\|work`	`needed to fulfill the "requires riding (300)"`
`12:41.28`	`Industrial`	`yes`
`12:41.35`	`Industrial`	`yet`
`12:41.37`	`nymbia`	`100%`
`12:41.50`	`axxo`	`good`
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`12:41.56`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Industrial: ground : 60%/100%, flying: 60%, 280%`
`12:42.02`	`Industrial`	`wow`
`12:42.34`	`axxo`	`no`
`12:42.50`	`Adirelle\|work`	`I failed ?`
`12:43.06`	`nymbia`	`Adirelle\|Work: looks right to me`
`12:43.11`	`axxo`	`60/60 280/100`
`12:43.33`	`Adirelle\|work`	`:)`
`12:43.39`	`Adirelle\|work`	`that's only a matter of ordering :`
`12:43.47`	`axxo`	`you said 60/100`
`12:43.48`	`Myrathi`	`And the netherdrakes are 310%`
`12:43.59`	`axxo`	`225 flying is 60 on ground and 60 in air`
`12:44.00`	`Adirelle\|work`	`like in regular/epic`
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`12:44.19`	`Adirelle\|work`	`oh, i meant ground mounts, not flyng ones`
`12:44.22`	`[Ammo]`	`it's still unknown to get the netherdrakes is it`
`12:44.33`	`axxo`	`win the arena season`
`12:44.33`	`Myrathi`	`Blue posted on the US forums about it.`
`12:44.35`	`axxo`	`you fly in style`
`12:44.47`	`Myrathi`	`Gotta win the arena season (when it's in) to get the armoured version.`
`12:45.11`	`Myrathi`	`The unarmoured one will be via some other (non-arena) means but is still to be finalised.`
`12:45.16`	`Myrathi`	`Probably a rep grind of d00m.`
`12:45.34`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`12:45.35`	`Myrathi`	`Think of it like the Wintersaber mounts. :\`
`12:45.38`	`axxo`	`friendly with netherwing!`
`12:45.45`	`Myrathi`	`Except a hell of a lot worse.`
`12:46.04`	`axxo`	`so you spot someone on a netherdrake`
`12:46.05`	`axxo`	`and you ticket a gm for botting`
`12:46.05`	`axxo`	`:p`
`12:46.13`	`Industrial`	`lol`
`12:46.34`	`[Ammo]`	`rofl`
`12:46.35`	`Myrathi`	`I've never quite managed to force myself to finish off the last 30% of revered for my 'saber.`
`12:46.42`	`nymbia`	`axxo: friendly? i was under the impression that as of now, only neutral was possible.`
`12:46.57`	`[Ammo]`	`how do you get netherwing rep`
`12:47.13`	`Myrathi`	`Ammo: Tear the wings of nethers? ;)`
`12:47.15`	`nee\|work`	`well, time to head home, but before that fix my tire :(`
`12:47.17`	`Myrathi`	`off*`
`12:47.19`	`axxo`	`there is 1 quest that gives 42000 rep in shadowmoon`
`12:47.29`	`nymbia`	`axxo: actually.. i guess humans would get 46200 for netherwing ally..`
`12:47.48`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm`
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`12:48.29`	`Myrathi`	`What's damn scary is the wife did the wintersaber exalt-grind three times.`
`12:48.57`	`Myrathi`	`That's like... a year or so of grind.`
`12:49.06`	`nymbia`	`holy shit`
`12:49.10`	`Myrathi`	`If she wasn't raiding, she was grinding rep.`
`12:49.20`	`[Ammo]`	`time to do that questline`
`12:49.48`	`nymbia`	`i got halfway through the wintersaber grind.. once. 3 times is just insane.`
`12:50.05`	`Myrathi`	`She just looks smug when I tell her that :p`
`12:50.20`	`Azurewrath`	`who wants that ugly cat anyway.. :p`
`12:50.26`	`nymbia`	`although on a horde-swarmed pvp server i guess it's more difficult than most places`
`12:50.31`	`Myrathi`	`And I get the "Pff. You haven't even done it once. stfu noob."`
`12:50.32`	`Myrathi`	`-_-`
`12:51.41`	`Myrathi`	`She likes white/pink kitties, I guess. :p`
`12:51.51`	`Myrathi`	`Epic mount.. no crappy war-saddle nonsense.`
`12:52.01`	`Myrathi`	`(which, I admit, I hate)`
`12:53.36`	`Myrathi`	`Hm. I can't remember what I had to do for the black war steed and war saber... AB, I think? Eh. I don't remember. Stopped grinding pvp the moment I had them.`
`12:53.48`	`nymbia`	`i'd have had a nonarmored epic without the damn wintersaber grind, if only they had some way to gain darnassus faction before they phased out the old epic mounts`
`12:53.53`	`Myrathi`	`And I didn't want the ram. Everyone had it. :p`
`12:54.23`	`Myrathi`	`yeah. forcing us to the armoured bullshit was a pain.`
`12:54.47`	`nymbia`	`but.. i'm perfectly fine with my Swift Blue Gryphon and Great Blue Elekk, now. so it's all good.`
`12:54.51`	`Myrathi`	`The number of people in my guild that ride their normal mounts when they don't require speed is quite impressive.`
`12:55.09`	`nymbia`	`haha`
`12:55.23`	`Pneumatus`	`swift red gryphon and cobalt war talbuk :)`
`12:55.29`	`nymbia`	`armor or no, i banked my old mount the second i bought my epic`
`12:55.47`	`Myrathi`	`"dude. u got epic monut. y u not rid it??" "It sucks. stfu&diaf."`
`12:55.59`	`Myrathi`	`Common response.`
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`12:56.19`	`nymbia`	`ol`
`12:56.28`	`nymbia`	`s/ol/lol/`
`12:56.32`	`yacoob`	`:>`
`12:56.54`	`Myrathi`	`s/o/x/`
`12:57.12`	`Myrathi`	`s/o/x/g`
`12:57.15`	`Myrathi`	`Woo.`
`12:57.19`	`nevcairiel`	`hehe`
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`12:57.46`	`Klazar`	`msg NickServ IDENTIFY 2thdk`
`12:57.47`	`Myrathi`	`t/Wo/Ee/`
`12:57.53`	`Pneumatus`	`lawl`
`12:57.54`	`Klazar`	`lol`
`12:57.57`	`Pneumatus`	`go go change pass`
`12:58.13`	`Myrathi`	`Bah. Typo. And.. nice one Klaz. :P`
`12:58.20`	`Klazar`	`really`
`12:58.51`	`Myrathi`	`The temptation to ghost you is great.. but I'm not that nasty. 0:)`
`12:59.04`	`Pneumatus`	`i bet the ghost message tells you who did it :<`
`12:59.07`	`Klazar`	`s/any/another/`
`12:59.16`	`_neuron_`	`Kemayo, ping`
`13:00.14`	`Myrathi`	`Looks like he's all ponged out.`
`13:00.24`	`Klazar`	`thats what i get for trying to cut and past the msg while its scrolling up my screen, just so i dont have to type it`
`13:00.24`	`Myrathi`	`Anyone got some air-freshener?`
`13:00.36`	`Myrathi`	`Klazar: Aliases ftw. :p`
`13:00.46`	`Myrathi`	`(or auto-performs)`
`13:00.47`	`[Wobin]`	`night`
`13:00.51`	`Myrathi`	`afternoon`
`13:01.13`	`Myrathi`	`Hmmm. I wonder... test time!`
`13:01.36`	`Myrathi`	`tr/eio/xxx/ig`
`13:01.52`	`Myrathi`	`Poo. He only recognises s/. :P`
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`13:04.16`	`yacoob`	`oh, neat.`
`13:04.26`	`yacoob`	`new amarok is native on osx, 2.0 will be native on win32 as well`
`13:04.48`	`Myrathi`	`Oo`
`13:05.12`	`Myrathi`	`Tat' sthe meiad playre right?`
`13:05.16`	`Myrathi`	`Whoah.`
`13:05.23`	`Klazar`	`psswrd changed :-)`
`13:05.34`	`\|Kev\|`	`yacoob: 'native'?`
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`13:05.45`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r27442 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua:`
`13:05.45`	`CIA-17`	`Prat: Contributed FR xlation`
`13:05.45`	`CIA-17`	`Issue : 60`
`13:05.48`	`Myrathi`	`I think my typing skill just had a heart-attack.`
`13:06.08`	`yacoob`	`\|Kev\|, native.`
`13:06.25`	`\|Kev\|`	`yacoob: do you mean 'using cocoa, rather than Qt widgets', or just 'using Qt widgets, which is mostly native'?`
`13:06.46`	`yacoob`	`that I do not know.`
`13:06.53`	`yacoob`	`but you won't need xserver`
`13:07.00`	`\|Kev\|`	`right`
`13:07.01`	`yacoob`	`I don't know whether qt is ported`
`13:07.04`	`\|Kev\|`	`probably Qt then :)`
`13:07.12`	`\|Kev\|`	`Qt is cross-platform`
`13:07.14`	`yacoob`	`probably.`
`13:07.16`	`\|Kev\|`	`has always* been`
`13:07.19`	`\|Kev\|`	`[* almost]`
`13:07.24`	`Myrathi`	`Heh.`
`13:07.24`	`yacoob`	`anyway, this makes yacoob happy.`
`13:07.28`	`\|Kev\|`	`cool`
`13:08.09`	`Myrathi`	`Whee. You can always count on tracks with the title "Dickface" to be overflowing with offensive overtones.`
`13:08.13`	`\|Kev\|`	`urgh`
`13:08.15`	`\|Kev\|`	`that's horrid`
`13:08.17`	`hapioob`	`waaai! waaai!`
`13:08.24`	`yacoob`	`enough of that.`
`13:08.36`	`Myrathi`	`I read that as "happyboob". :p`
`13:08.37`	`\|Kev\|`	`(that's horrid being the amarak on osx interface)`
`13:08.47`	`\|Kev\|`	`it's using Qt, but not the native rendering`
`13:08.51`	`\|Kev\|`	`so it looks hideous`
`13:09.00`	`\|Kev\|`	`http://www.khaitu.com/img/blog/amarok010106.jpg`
`13:09.03`	`yacoob`	`Myrathi, apparently you're hungry for.. well, something else than irc. Go away from terminal :)`
`13:09.13`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27443 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`13:09.13`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`13:09.14`	`CIA-17`	`- Finished converting defaults system to PT3, probably some other junk`
`13:09.15`	`Industrial`	`lol`
`13:09.17`	`Myrathi`	`Mm.`
`13:09.55`	`Myrathi`	`Wife's at work. The only other 'acceptable' target within range would be my sister-in-law who, albeit seriously cute, is also married and would Kill Me Dead(tm).`
`13:09.56`	`Myrathi`	`:P`
`13:10.13`	`Industrial`	`no comment`
`13:11.16`	`Myrathi`	`And who just asked me "Heyheyhey!! The f*** you looking at me like that, for? STOPPIT! OR I HURT JOO!"`
`13:11.27`	`Myrathi`	`We can see why I like my SIL.`
`13:11.31`	`Myrathi`	`:]`
`13:12.36`	`Myrathi`	`My family is so.. pleasant. And docile. Really.`
`13:13.05`	`yacoob`	`the sun is shining and he grass is green o/~`
`13:13.10`	`tlund`	`it doesnt seem like GarbageFu learns new vendorprices at the vendor. shouldnt it do that? Or am I doing something wrong?`
`13:13.33`	`Myrathi`	`Probably need to tell it to eat the vendor, first. The only sure way to consume pricing information.`
`13:14.55`	`Myrathi`	`Hmmm. Does SVN login require SSH?`
`13:15.12`	`[Ammo]`	`no`
`13:15.24`	`Myrathi`	`Zen I haf borked sumtink.`
`13:17.15`	`CIA-17`	`03gamefaq * r27444 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFuLocale-deDE.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: deDE Update`
`13:18.33`	`Myrathi`	`Guh. Been too damn long since I used TSVN...`
`13:18.59`	`Myrathi`	`Do I need to import and checkout my files once before I can set keyword props on them?`
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`13:19.39`	`CIA-17`	`03neuron * r27445 10nQuestLog/ (events.lua modules/DetailsFrame.lua):`
`13:19.39`	`CIA-17`	`nQuestLog:`
`13:19.39`	`CIA-17`	`- commenting out escape detector waiting fix`
`13:19.39`	`CIA-17`	`- properly format level+tag on linking quest info in chat`
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`13:28.43`	`Mikma`	`yay, nQuestLog love`
`13:29.47`	`Gngsk`	`h9`
`13:30.27`	`nymbia`	`Myrathi: yeah`
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`13:35.50`	`Pneumatus`	`does anyone know if theres any way to see who else in my guild is running cartogropher with noteshare?`
`13:38.01`	`Gigaknight`	`nymbia, this is fucking awesome`
`13:38.25`	`nymbia`	`Gigaknight: :D`
`13:38.35`	`Gigaknight`	`nearly broke 4k with frostbolt`
`13:38.39`	`nymbia`	`Pneumatus: VersionChecker should do it`
`13:38.41`	`Gigaknight`	`ice lance crits are so good`
`13:39.39`	`Pneumatus`	`nymbia: thanks will give it a try`
`13:40.05`	vid`	`yea ice lance rocks`
`13:40.13`	vid`	`i dueled a 70 warrior twice last night`
`13:40.14`	`Myrathi`	`nymbia: Cheers. Wasn't having much luck tracking down dox on the subject.`
`13:40.19`	vid`	`2nd fight he didnt even break my ice barrier`
`13:40.21`	vid`	`lol`
`13:40.31`	vid`	`frost nova, got 3 ice lances off`
`13:40.41`	vid`	`then he intercepts, i blink, pull up pet, ranged nova with pet`
`13:40.46`	vid`	`pop trinket`
`13:40.50`	vid`	`3 more ice lances, fire blast, dead :P`
`13:40.55`	`abbat_w`	`vid`
`13:41.04`	`abbat_w`	`next time you got a reflect`
`13:41.10`	vid`	`i hate reflect :(`
`13:41.20`	`abbat_w`	`and you kill yourself i think with 2k crits from lance ;)`
`13:41.25`	vid`	`hehe`
`13:42.06`	`Myrathi`	`Reflect is awesome. :P`
`13:42.06`	`abbat_w`	`lance btw is very very nice spell ;)`
`13:42.06`	`abbat_w`	`Usable in pve and pvp`
`13:42.12`	vid`	`it would be cool if ice barrier or mana shield reflected back everything it absorbed`
`13:42.17`	vid`	`while it was being drained`
`13:42.39`	vid`	`:P`
`13:42.39`	`abbat_w`	`yeah ;)`
`13:42.39`	vid`	`i know that would be nerf stick though`
`13:42.39`	vid`	`only class i have trouble with really is hunters and certain builds of lock`
`13:42.45`	`abbat_w`	`But anyway lance looks some overpower maybe`
`13:42.59`	vid`	`well ice lance has an artificial cooldown with frost nova`
`13:43.03`	vid`	`otherwise its a steaming pile of shit`
`13:43.07`	`abbat_w`	`yep`
`13:43.09`	vid`	`and without shatter`
`13:43.12`	vid`	`its a piece of shit still`
`13:43.32`	`Myrathi`	`I just remember being jumped by a 70 mage, seeing him start to cast a frost spell, threw up my ward.. and he one-shotted himself. XD`
`13:43.32`	vid`	`also, ice lance doesnt have chill effects or proc frostbitwe`
`13:43.41`	`abbat_w`	`W/o nova it's only for testing reflect on wars, put warr in combat (instead using cs) and something else. Maybe pulling`
`13:43.42`	vid`	`lol`
`13:43.51`	vid`	`probably an arcane build`
`13:43.55`	`abbat_w`	`But lance apply winter chill btw`
`13:44.03`	`abbat_w`	`I have elemental build fire/frost`
`13:44.05`	vid`	`he probably popped a trinket and ap`
`13:44.16`	vid`	`and through a frostbolt w/ a fireblast`
`13:44.25`	`abbat_w`	`And lance is insane good for me`
`13:44.28`	vid`	`i hit myself for 5k last night doing that`
`13:44.32`	`abbat_w`	`Ahah ;)`
`13:44.39`	vid`	`oh a mob in botanica`
`13:44.42`	`Myrathi`	`Friend on vent was on alliance side, checked the guy's name and he had logged out. :D`
`13:45.30`	`Myrathi`	`Yup. He was crackly. Go go gadget AP.`
`13:45.58`	`Myrathi`	`I don't care. He ate his own bolt and asploded. :]`
`13:46.28`	`Myrathi`	`Kept the guild amused for hours after.`
`13:47.06`	vid`	`reminds me of the time in eq`
`13:47.15`	vid`	`there used to be a bug where you would dismount off a horse`
`13:47.17`	vid`	`it would self target`
`13:47.30`	vid`	`and you could nuke yourself in eq`
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`13:47.36`	vid`	`so i was chasing this guy down`
`13:47.56`	vid`	`i dismount and start casting manaburn (was basically a wizard deathtouch at the time, but took like 6 sec to cast)`
`13:48.05`	vid`	`and bam i drop dead`
`13:48.25`	`Myrathi`	`rofl.`
`13:48.27`	vid`	`i was like wtf, then i remembered the bug that it targets yourself when you get off a horse :P i was pissed, im friends with that guy now, he never lets me forget it`
`13:48.38`	`Myrathi`	`XD`
`13:48.48`	vid`	`hehe`
`13:48.49`	`Myrathi`	`KEI ftw.`
`13:48.54`	vid`	`so you know about mana burn :P`
`13:49.00`	vid`	`back when it first came out`
`13:49.04`	vid`	`how powerful it was`
`13:49.06`	`Myrathi`	`Frickin' painful. >_`
`13:49.07`	`Myrathi`	`>_<`
`13:49.10`	vid`	`before it got nerfed to hell`
`13:49.38`	vid`	`see those spinny orbs winding up around a mage, run fast :P`
`13:49.48`	vid`	`wizard whatrever`
`13:49.51`	vid`	`mage was a pet class in eq`
`13:49.52`	vid`	`:(`
`13:49.59`	vid`	`k off to work later`
`13:50.02`	`Myrathi`	`Got known on my server for my always being in elemental form, when I was idling anywhere. -_-`
`13:50.47`	`Hjalte`	`Does anyone know a reliable addon for fear warding?`
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`13:51.15`	`Myrathi`	`Target someone, click your "Fear Ward" spell button. Works great!`
`13:51.20`	`Myrathi`	`:P`
`13:51.45`	`Hjalte`	`Hehe. I would like a notification of when he loses it :)`
`13:52.04`	`CIA-17`	`03neuron * r27446 10nQuestLog/ (core.lua formatQuests.lua options.lua):`
`13:52.04`	`CIA-17`	`nQuestLog :`
`13:52.04`	`CIA-17`	`- Change format of zone level`
`13:52.04`	`CIA-17`	`- Zone specific font size`
`13:52.04`	`CIA-17`	`- Changed fontsize of details/quests to 13, let me know if it's better this way`
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`13:52.25`	`Hjalte`	`Something like a titan_fearward for fubar - I know there has been one before.`
`13:52.27`	`Myrathi`	`Yo.`
`13:52.43`	`Myrathi`	`There is a debuff warner.. but hell if I can remember what it's called :(`
`13:53.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`i so wish model/texture replacements were still allowed, frozen shadoweave shoulders look like shit on an orc`
`13:53.34`	`Myrathi`	`:s`
`13:54.18`	`Myrathi`	`One of the (few) things I liked about the LDoN expansion in EQ: the ability to dye items.`
`13:55.15`	`Arrowmaster`	`even with a different color these shoulders would still look like shit on an orc`
`13:55.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`its the model`
`13:55.23`	`Myrathi`	`Ah.`
`13:55.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`its the arcanist model`
`13:55.54`	`Myrathi`	`Ugh.`
`13:56.02`	`krka`	`heh, it's funny... WoW is basically a doll dressup game... now i get why people go high end raiding - it's to get pretty dresses for the dolls`
`13:56.09`	`Myrathi`	`I think I'll stick with the frostfire. ;)`
`13:56.35`	`Industrial`	`krka: correct`
`13:56.35`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`13:56.48`	`Industrial`	`krka: and status of having obtained the pretty dress`
`13:57.03`	`Myrathi`	`"Clothes Shopping for Geeks"`
`13:57.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`if i had t3 shoulders i would probably just wear them anyway`
`13:57.51`	`krka`	`hmm... i should start a geek clothes shop. instead of buying clothes directly, they have to deliver quest items to me. of course, i have another shop that sells the quest items!`
`13:58.35`	`krka`	`then i could give the customers reputation coupons.. and when they get enough rep, they get 10% discount`
`13:58.39`	`krka`	`genius!`
`13:58.57`	`Myrathi`	`Personally, I just like that it's sta and int and +36 dmg :p`
`13:59.17`	`Gigaknight`	`cry http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28633`
`13:59.25`	`Zicon`	`krka: ... I'd buy from you.`
`13:59.43`	`Pneumatus`	`i dual wield that staff`
`14:00.14`	`Zicon`	`myrathi: If you are refraining from rating it, why do you have to say so? :&`
`14:00.52`	`Myrathi`	`Huh? I did rate it. :p`
`14:00.56`	`Myrathi`	`X`
`14:00.58`	`Myrathi`	`:P`
`14:01.05`	`Zicon`	`No, an X-rating is a non-rating.`
`14:01.13`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27447 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`14:01.13`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`14:01.13`	`CIA-17`	`- Getting there, but that's all for tonight.`
`14:01.14`	`Myrathi`	`Not in this country. :P`
`14:01.31`	`Myrathi`	`I guess it'd be an R-rating or such, elsewhere.`
`14:02.20`	`_neuron_`	`guys, question, when I reorganize my settings to reword a few things, should I remove localization for those things for other languages?`
`14:03.05`	`Myrathi`	`Is it just grammatical shifting-around of words? Or altering the meaning?`
`14:03.16`	`Myrathi`	`If it's 1) I'd not think so. If 2) then probably.`
`14:03.42`	`_neuron_`	`kinda in between :p`
`14:04.01`	`Myrathi`	`Maybe mark them, in the file, with a comment specifying a need for verification?`
`14:04.11`	`_neuron_`	`good idea`
`14:04.22`	`Myrathi`	`Then poke people on the forums or in here to do so. :)`
`14:04.59`	`Myrathi`	`Ach, dammit.. explorer dead again.`
`14:05.08`	`Myrathi`	`Damn tetchy thumbnails.`
`14:06.03`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27448 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`14:06.03`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`14:06.03`	`CIA-17`	`- Ok, I lied. This is all for tonight.`
`14:06.21`	`_neuron_`	`good changelog nymbia :P`
`14:06.26`	`Zicon`	`myrathi: If "this country" is UK, the BBFC doesn't even have an X or an R rating. ;P`
`14:08.04`	`nymbia`	`_neuron_: lol, well my changelogs on that branch have all been pretty bullshit -- it's a total revamp of the code, so changelogs would either have to be nonexistant or thorough. nonexistant's a lot easier`
`14:08.13`	`_neuron_`	`;)`
`14:09.18`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27449 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`14:09.19`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`14:09.19`	`CIA-17`	`- _neuron_ smells`
`14:09.23`	`CIA-17`	`03neuron * r27450 10nQuestLog/options.lua: nQuestLog : Reorganized options menu (needs locale updates)`
`14:09.23`	`_neuron_`	`<3`
`14:09.32`	`nymbia`	`;)`
`14:09.47`	`_neuron_`	`that cleanup was you removing one empty line wasn't it :p`
`14:10.02`	`Industrial`	`neuron smells rofl`
`14:10.08`	`nymbia`	`HOW DARE YOU MAKE SUCH ACCUSATIONS`
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`14:10.15`	`_neuron_`	`;)`
`14:10.19`	`nymbia`	`(two commented lines)`
`14:10.39`	`nymbia`	`lol`
`14:10.49`	`_neuron_`	`:P`
`14:10.56`	`nymbia`	`ANYWAY i'm off, later guys`
`14:11.17`	`_neuron_`	`later :)`
`14:13.30`	`CIA-17`	`03neuron * r27451 10nQuestLog/core.lua: nQuestLog : Dirty hack to allow hiding fubar icon`
`14:14.08`	`CIA-17`	`03pneumatus * r27452 10ClassLoot/ (. ClassLoot.lua Locale-enUS.lua):`
`14:14.08`	`CIA-17`	`ClassLoot:`
`14:14.08`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed strings replaced for localization`
`14:14.13`	`Industrial`	`_neuron_: did you get around to aligning the objectives right yet?`
`14:14.21`	`Industrial`	`i mean the numbers`
`14:14.30`	`_neuron_`	`Industrial, nope, it's complicated to do, not entirely sure how to implement it cleanly`
`14:14.35`	`Industrial`	`right`
`14:14.43`	`Industrial`	`its not in the API?`
`14:14.52`	`_neuron_`	`if I wanted to align the whole text right yes`
`14:14.55`	`Industrial`	`you might wanna check FuBar_Quests, it does it`
`14:15.03`	`_neuron_`	`but for aligning just part of it I'd probably have to make an extra set of frames`
`14:15.07`	`_neuron_`	`oh.. hm. I'll look at that`
`14:15.12`	`Industrial`	`oh I thought only the 10/12 pert on the right`
`14:15.15`	`_neuron_`	`"One small issue, the notification coloring doesn't stick. It defaults to black, I change it to a different color and a couple seconds later its back to black. It happens whether I set it to show in chat or on screen." gotta look at that first`
`14:15.17`	`Industrial`	`part*`
`14:15.17`	`neenee`	`How can I see the memory increasing rate per addon in WoW?`
`14:15.39`	`Pneumatus`	`PerformanceFu`
`14:15.41`	`nevcairiel`	`best thing you get is tekSupport`
`14:15.46`	`Pneumatus`	`oh, not per addon`
`14:16.01`	`neenee`	`does tekSupport show that info?`
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`14:17.05`	`nevcairiel`	`it tries to^^`
`14:17.07`	`nevcairiel`	`but it cannot in every case`
`14:18.27`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r27453 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .BabbleSpell-2.2: deDE localization for Incineration`
`14:21.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`neenee: you wait for 2.1.0`
`14:24.05`	`neenee`	`yup`
`14:25.14`	`Adirelle\|work`	`an link to 2.1 information ?`
`14:25.29`	`Adirelle\|work`	`about carto note sharing, wasn't note sharing included in core some revision ago ?`
`14:25.48`	`Adirelle\|work`	`and then taken out of it ?`
`14:26.02`	`Adirelle\|work`	`(don't flame, that's really just a quesiton)`
`14:26.16`	`Pneumatus`	`dunno, its definatly a separate module now anyway`
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`14:32.06`	`CIA-17`	`03neuron * r27454 10nQuestLog/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`14:32.06`	`CIA-17`	`nQuestLog:`
`14:32.06`	`CIA-17`	`- Text objective color now configurable`
`14:32.06`	`CIA-17`	`- Cleanups`
`14:35.36`	`Thorgard`	`"Script memory is now tracked on a per-addon basis, with functions provided to analyze and query usage." <- hot.`
`14:36.57`	`nevcairiel`	`very.`
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`14:39.25`	`tlund`	`Thorgard: from where?`
`14:39.38`	`Thorgard`	`2.1.0 changes`
`14:39.45`	`Thorgard`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63167579&sid=1`
`14:40.05`	`haste`	`it needs more desu`
`14:40.15`	`Industrial`	`lol`
`14:40.16`	`chutwig\|work`	`have they published general notes as well?`
`14:40.20`	`tlund`	`are PTR up in the US?`
`14:40.29`	`Industrial`	`haste: apparently pets cannot be named "wryyyyyy"`
`14:40.31`	`Industrial`	`:(`
`14:40.40`	`haste`	`aaw`
`14:40.43`	`_neuron_`	`eeek, can't load wowace.com`
`14:40.44`	`_neuron_`	`is it just me?`
`14:40.50`	`Industrial`	`(my ravager, in that case)`
`14:40.59`	`Thorgard`	`Industrial, can't use the same letter more than twice in consecutive order. ;P`
`14:41.01`	`Pneumatus`	`by boar is called Pumba :D`
`14:41.29`	`Thorgard`	`Pneumatus, I had one of those. ;P`
`14:41.36`	`Pneumatus`	`i have an RFK boar`
`14:41.44`	`Pneumatus`	`one of the brown armored ones`
`14:41.52`	`Thorgard`	`Right now it's a Warp Chaser named Panzermensch.`
`14:41.59`	`Industrial`	`lol`
`14:42.15`	`Pneumatus`	`i used to take Pumba to BWL when he was level 25+`
`14:42.31`	`Pneumatus`	`i scared the hell out of people thinking he was gonna aggro everything`
`14:42.50`	`Industrial`	`he didnt?`
`14:43.02`	`Pneumatus`	`nope, seems pets aggro doesnt work the same as players`
`14:46.01`	`Thorgard`	`Yeah, they seem to have an odd aggro radius.`
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`14:50.58`	`CIA-17`	`03neuron * r27455 10nQuestLog/ (9 files in 2 dirs): nQuestLog : Localized module names`
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`15:11.59`	`Bruners`	`how do the packages thing work in WAU ?`
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`15:13.07`	`CIA-17`	`03lordrhys * r27456 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (3 files): FuBar_FactionItemsFu: 2.1.6, fixed spelling of Obsidian Warbead for Outland Factions`
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`15:19.58`	`xyu`	`wtb corpse waypoints for carto`
`15:20.37`	`Bruners`	`xyu: think that already is there`
`15:20.54`	`xyu`	`how do i enable? ^^`
`15:21.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`make sure you have Cartographer_CorpseWay and it should be automatic`
`15:21.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`just dont have automatic sharing of general notes enabled in databasesharing`
`15:22.59`	`Industrial`	`id really really really love to have Yatlas (the minimap map) in cartographer`
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`15:31.47`	`CIA-17`	`03neuron * r27457 10nQuestLog/core.lua: nQuestLog : OnInitialize -> OnEnable`
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`15:33.22`	`Myrathi`	`Heh. Seemingly, I got reported for what I named my hunter's pet.`
`15:33.36`	`Myrathi`	`I named my boar after another player. =)`
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`15:33.54`	`deltron`	`heh`
`15:33.57`	`chutwig\|work`	`everyone does that`
`15:33.58`	`Myrathi`	`She's an obnoxious pig; it seemed appropriate.`
`15:34.04`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`15:34.08`	`Myrathi`	`It even grunts the same, when it charges.`
`15:34.10`	`Myrathi`	`:P`
`15:34.11`	`chutwig\|work`	`name it after the guild's MT`
`15:34.19`	`chutwig\|work`	`and laugh when it steals aggro`
`15:34.28`	`Myrathi`	`lol.`
`15:34.47`	`deltron`	`one of my guilds hunters named their ravager after me`
`15:34.53`	`Bruners`	`Industrial: yatlas is what?`
`15:35.18`	`Industrial`	`the mini map map, but big`
`15:35.44`	`Myrathi`	`Reanchor it, perhaps? =)`
`15:35.50`	`Bruners`	`Industrial: is it an ace addon?`
`15:36.07`	`Industrial`	`no why would it be`
`15:36.10`	`Industrial`	`its a map`
`15:36.11`	`Industrial`	`:\|`
`15:36.26`	`Industrial`	`(okok kind of moot point with cartographer)`
`15:36.32`	`Industrial`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1454`
`15:36.44`	`Industrial`	`I just want that map in cart ^^`
`15:37.21`	`Industrial`	`its one big map file/image though, so when zooming it tends to be slow`
`15:37.24`	`nevcairiel`	`it would be awsome if that would be possible in instances`
`15:37.29`	`nevcairiel`	`but i dont think it is`
`15:37.31`	`Industrial`	`with the Yatlas addon, anyway`
`15:40.05`	`deltron`	`hah that is insane Industrial`
`15:40.52`	`deltron`	`I guess someone spent a long time stitching together images`
`15:40.57`	`Industrial`	`yeah`
`15:40.57`	`phyber`	`nevcairiel: if what was possible with instances?`
`15:41.05`	`Industrial`	`but its really nice`
`15:41.17`	`nevcairiel`	`showing my position on a all-over-maxi-mini-map`
`15:41.41`	`Amadeo`	`yatlas maps look cool, but they don't have the features of the normal world map, do they?`
`15:41.41`	`Industrial`	`far more accurate then the normal map`
`15:41.41`	`phyber`	`ah`
`15:41.41`	`Industrial`	`Amadeo: "features" ?`
`15:41.45`	`Amadeo`	`For instance, can you mouse-over an area in yatlas and have it display the subzone?`
`15:42.26`	`Industrial`	`dont think so, no`
`15:42.39`	`Amadeo`	`I need that stuff for doing quests and such, since I don't know where anything is :)`
`15:42.40`	`Industrial`	`but thats where mapnotes come in handy :P`
`15:42.59`	`phyber`	`a module for Cartographer could do that Yatlas stuff. and as long as you know where the borders for subzones are, you could make it tell you which subzone you were over, since it knows the coords.`
`15:43.31`	`Industrial`	`and all map coords are the same anyway, so the two maps are interchangable`
`15:43.37`	`Industrial`	`\o/`
`15:43.40`	`Amadeo`	`In Cartographer, I notice it creates a POI when you ask a guard where a location is...can you turn that feature off?`
`15:43.47`	`Industrial`	`ckknight: ping :D`
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`15:43.59`	`Industrial`	`Amadeo: that si Cartographer_POI`
`15:43.59`	`nevcairiel`	`Amadeo: get rid of the POI module :D`
`15:44.07`	`Amadeo`	`the whole module?`
`15:44.10`	`Industrial`	`yes`
`15:44.25`	`Amadeo`	`..ok!`
`15:44.54`	`Amadeo`	`what else will I lose by doing that?`
`15:45.03`	`phyber`	`Industrial: that's assuming the Cartographer module didn't let you drag the map around like Yatlas does, and just shows you the current zone only. :)`
`15:45.32`	`phyber`	`if you get what I mean ;)`
`15:45.38`	`Industrial`	`hm`
`15:45.41`	`Industrial`	`ups`
`15:46.06`	`neenee`	`Hm. There aren't many spirit cloth items in TBC it seems`
`15:46.42`	`phyber`	`and even if it did let you drag it, I suppose it could be told where the borders of the zone are. so all of the coords still match up.`
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`16:07.51`	`kagaro`	`morning`
`16:08.11`	`deltron`	`hullo`
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`16:09.46`	`shieldb`	`Hmm`
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`16:10.01`	`shieldb`	`I like that bigwigs and ora2 have wau files to automatically convert them to LoD`
`16:10.08`	`Teshnor`	`hrm`
`16:10.11`	`shieldb`	`but I don't like that they don't actually work :P`
`16:10.14`	`deltron`	`LoD?`
`16:10.18`	`Teshnor`	`AddOn 'FuBar' tried to call the protected function 'UNKNOWN'.`
`16:10.20`	`Teshnor`	`<in C code>: ?`
`16:10.22`	`Teshnor`	<in C code>: in function `CastSpell'
`16:10.24`	`Teshnor`	Interface\FrameXML\SpellBookFrame.lua:281: in function `SpellButton_OnClick':
`16:10.25`	`shieldb`	`load on demmand`
`16:10.26`	`Teshnor`	`<string>:"SpellButton2:OnClick":3: in function <[string "SpellButton2:OnClick"]:1>`
`16:10.29`	`Teshnor`	`meh! stupid paste :(`
`16:10.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`16:10.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`nice error`
`16:10.40`	`Teshnor`	`sorry bout that`
`16:10.44`	`Teshnor`	`yeah... really irritating`
`16:11.07`	`Teshnor`	`I get it if I try to cast a spell directly from spellbook`
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`16:11.40`	`Teshnor`	`I don't think it's FuBar itself, I think it's a FuBar-addon that's causing it :)`
`16:11.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`i get an ace2 has been blocked from executing a protected action error when i try to do that`
`16:12.02`	`shieldb`	`http://ace.pastey.net/6168`
`16:12.17`	`Teshnor`	`Arrowmaster: When you try to do what? :)`
`16:12.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`cast something directly from spellbook`
`16:12.45`	`Pneumatus`	`BugSack goes crazy with TradeBar saying FuBar is calling protected functions also`
`16:12.59`	`Teshnor`	`yeah that I've noticed :)`
`16:13.48`	`tig`	`could somebody plz add german translation for "Ferocious Inspiration" as "Wilde Eingebung" in Babble-Spell?`
`16:14.19`	`tig`	`s/german/deDE/`
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`16:24.31`	`evl`	`WOOO :D`
`16:24.37`	`evl`	`Epic Flying Mount`
`16:25.21`	`Industrial`	`you sir`
`16:25.23`	`Industrial`	`are sick`
`16:25.39`	`Treebar`	`can i take it for a spin??`
`16:25.48`	`Treebar`	`i promise to give it back ^^`
`16:27.18`	`evl`	`so fast it's not even funny`
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`16:36.17`	`Nayamen[TME]`	`Ello guys. I am in desperate need of an ace2 addon that tells me how long my HoT spells have been on a target. Been looking, but cant find anything :/`
`16:36.33`	`Industrial`	`no, you are in need of an addon`
`16:42.34`	`Bruners`	`how to type � on the keyboard?`
`16:42.34`	`Nayamen[TME]`	`Well, yes. Basicly anything that does it would be fine. I would preffer an ace2 compatible one tho.`
`16:42.34`	`Industrial`	`Bruners: press any key`
`16:42.35`	`Pneumatus`	`Nayamen[TME]: try SorrensTimers`
`16:42.35`	`Pneumatus`	`that gives you bars to show the durations on HoTs amongst other things`
`16:43.00`	`Nayamen[TME]`	`Thanks, will check it out.`
`16:43.00`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r27458 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs):`
`16:43.00`	`CIA-17`	`PeriodicTable-3.0`
`16:43.00`	`CIA-17`	`-25978:20 Seth's Graphite Fishing Pole`
`16:43.00`	`Bruners`	`Industrial: found it out :) Alt + 0191`
`16:43.11`	`neenee`	`�`
`16:43.12`	`neenee`	`woo`
`16:43.14`	`neenee`	`hehe`
`16:43.17`	`neenee`	`�`
`16:43.25`	`neenee`	`:�`
`16:46.42`	`Jens`	`Typo in Prat > PlayerNames > Keep Info help tooltip.`
`16:48.34`	`durcyn`	`Nayamen[TME]: see also "HotMan", even though it sounds, you know, gay.`
`16:48.42`	`Nayamen[TME]`	`hehe`
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`16:49.56`	`Nayamen[TME]`	`Have you tried both durcyn?`
`16:50.25`	`shieldb`	`Nayamen[TME], natur enemy cast bars can do HoT timers, as well as sorrenstimers, hotcandy, hotman. I'm sure there are others, too :)`
`16:52.24`	`Elkano`	`Chronometer`
`16:52.40`	`Nayamen[TME]`	`sorrens timer hadnt been updated in a while. So trying hotman now.`
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`16:53.10`	`Nayamen[TME]`	`Ah!`
`16:53.12`	`Nayamen[TME]`	`Excellent!`
`16:53.31`	`neenee`	`hm. about 10-15 KB/s memory increase rate average here`
`16:53.36`	`neenee`	`seems high`
`16:53.52`	`neenee`	`ah, stabalizing around 10 now`
`16:54.05`	`[dRaCo]`	`still high...`
`16:54.15`	`[dRaCo]`	`I've got an average of ~3`
`16:54.19`	`neenee`	`Well, then I need to decrease it somehow`
`16:54.43`	`[dRaCo]`	`why? as long as you've got enough memory ^^`
`16:55.00`	`neenee`	`True, but still, better low than high`
`16:55.37`	`[dRaCo]`	`sure`
`16:55.39`	`neenee`	`average on 15 now`
`16:55.59`	`[dRaCo]`	`it's always higher after logging in`
`16:56.05`	`durcyn`	`Nayamen[TME]: nah, i don't play heal classes >_>`
`16:56.09`	`[dRaCo]`	`check it after playing for some time`
`16:56.13`	`neenee`	`I know it dropped a bit since then`
`16:56.13`	`[dRaCo]`	`like 1h or more`
`16:56.16`	`neenee`	`ok`
`16:56.33`	`neenee`	`How do I figure out what uses the most?`
`16:56.46`	`durcyn`	`neenee: teksupport is a good place to start`
`16:57.03`	`[dRaCo]`	`/ace2 info gives you the current values, iirc`
`16:57.04`	`neenee`	`ok, I have that`
`16:57.35`	`Elkano`	`can't wait for 2.1.0 because of that :/`
`17:00.21`	`evl`	`Industrial: so much I took for granted in prat :D`
`17:00.39`	`evl`	`Industrial: sticky channels, auto completion etc.`
`17:00.51`	`neenee`	`evl: You're trying SimpleChatMods now and noticing there's a lot in Prat you used?`
`17:00.59`	`evl`	`yes :D`
`17:01.03`	`evl`	`that i never though tof`
`17:01.12`	`neenee`	`One of the things I missed in SimpleChatMods is binding keys to channels`
`17:02.10`	`durcyn`	`eh, i liked the old idchat better, before feature creep showed up`
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`17:02.29`	`neenee`	`To each their own :)`
`17:02.32`	`durcyn`	`tekchat meets my needs, in about 10% of the code footprint`
`17:02.32`	`Teshnor`	`Nayamen[TME]: What about Chronometer?`
`17:04.04`	`neenee`	`Hm. I just updated my addons and now, when I click a spell in my spellbook, the Blizzard Dialog pops up, asking me if I want to disable something or ignore`
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`17:07.54`	`neenee`	`I'll wait for the next update`
`17:08.41`	`CIA-17`	`03teshnor * r27459 10FuBar_WindFuryFu/ (4 files):`
`17:08.42`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_WindFuryFu:`
`17:08.42`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed bug where notification text would show up as black in MikSBT`
`17:08.42`	`CIA-17`	`- Changed most variable names to suit the rest of the code structure`
`17:08.42`	`CIA-17`	`- Added theoretical and actual DPS calculation (may not work to 100% yet)`
`17:08.44`	`CIA-17`	`- Added partially blocked and resist events to all damage parsers`
`17:08.46`	`CIA-17`	`- Added additional display options for SCT/MBTS notifications`
`17:10.58`	`Adirelle\|work`	`hmm... SCM doesn't do chatsticky ?`
`17:11.20`	`Adirelle\|work`	`btw that's not overcomplicated to setup but well`
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`17:11.54`	`xyu`	`what does it mean when it says "has no public versions" i know it sounds self explainatory but i really don't know what it means hah`
`17:12.04`	`xyu`	`in (wau)`
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`17:12.47`	`SlackerJer`	`xyu: If it's for the Cartographer packaged files, it's the expected normal message.`
`17:12.55`	`xyu`	`oki`
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`17:14.08`	`Toadkiller`	`mother of god why would cartographer suddenly forget all my herb locations?`
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`17:14.35`	`xyu`	`it forgot my quests as well luckily i backed it up o_O`
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`17:15.44`	`snurre-`	`hm, is there a way to disable the "not ready yet" comments when using a macro like "#showtooltip Corruption /use 13 /use 14 /cast Corruption"?`
`17:15.48`	`xyu`	`is Sanity2 similar to mrplow?`
`17:16.14`	`neenee`	`nope`
`17:16.44`	`durcyn`	`mrplow defrags, sanity caches and displays in an entirely different way from normal bags`
`17:16.51`	`xyu`	`ahh thanks`
`17:16.52`	`neenee`	`At least, I do not think it is, as it is something you can use to search through your items, or display them in a categorized manner. I think it has a stack option, like MrPlow, but it's not similar.`
`17:17.10`	`xyu`	`kk`
`17:17.42`	`CIA-17`	`03teshnor * r27460 10FuBar_WindFuryFu/ (FuBar_WindFuryFu.toc WindFuryFuLocals-koKR.lua):`
`17:17.43`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_WindFuryFu:`
`17:17.43`	`CIA-17`	`- Added Korean translation (thanks to Sayclub)`
`17:17.43`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed German translation from toc (update needed)`
`17:18.53`	`kagaro`	`Toadkiller .. it shouldnt`
`17:19.26`	`kagaro`	`unless your sv got corrupted or something`
`17:19.54`	`kagaro`	`or you disabled Herbalism, or the profession module has it set to never load herbalism`
`17:20.16`	`kagaro`	`or the final thing , could be an error loading the herbalism module`
`17:20.20`	`evl`	`Hmms,. anyone else having problems with loading templates in TAlented?`
`17:20.38`	`shieldb`	`neenee, sanity is useful for helping you find items that you have scattered across your characters. MrPlow is useful for sorting / stacking all the stuff in your inventory (though sanity does have an option to stack up all the stackable items in your inventory)`
`17:21.04`	`kagaro`	`bbiab`
`17:21.28`	`neenee`	`shieldb: Yup, that's what I meant :)`
`17:21.31`	`Teshnor`	`uhm, anyone else having problems with notes disappearing/appearing in Cartographer?`
`17:21.47`	`Teshnor`	`in the view that is... sometimes they show, sometimes now`
`17:21.48`	`Teshnor`	`not*`
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`17:25.44`	Beo`Gi`Oh	`Hmmm, I got MetaHUD, but it doesn't have a very good combo point or EN ticker, can anyone suggest a small simple compact one that I can use?`
`17:27.12`	`Barbanus`	`is it wrong that I have my WTF folder in SVN?`
`17:27.48`	`Teshnor`	`...`
`17:27.51`	`Teshnor`	`yes, very wrong`
`17:28.26`	`Barbanus`	`its my way of backing it up :P`
`17:29.00`	`[dRaCo]`	Beo`Gi`Oh: kEnergy
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`17:29.14`	`Teshnor`	`well, I guess your privileges will be revoked pretty soon`
`17:29.33`	`Barbanus`	`lol I didnt say the wowace svn :P`
`17:30.02`	`[dRaCo]`	`svn is great if you experiment a lot`
`17:30.14`	`Elkano`	`better not upload your WTF anywhere... your password is stored there in plain text`
`17:30.16`	`[dRaCo]`	`if you just want one copy, it's pure waste of space`
`17:30.27`	`Fisker-`	`AWESOME`
`17:30.36`	`Fisker-`	`I was unbanned after several months of being unbanned!`
`17:30.37`	`[dRaCo]`	`wow stores the password? o0`
`17:30.49`	`Fisker-`	`Nah`
`17:30.57`	`[dRaCo]`	`great, now you can get banned again :�`
`17:31.03`	`Fisker-`	`Nope`
`17:31.11`	`Fisker-`	`however, as you can see on the Website Error Reports forum (http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=11088&sid=1), there is an error message that comes up for some users when trying to log in, and there is currently no solution. Once it has been fixed, the Community team will post to inform people :)`
`17:31.14`	`Fisker-`	`COCKBLOCKED`
`17:31.17`	`Elkano`	`I knew so would belive it ^^`
`17:31.24`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27461 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFu.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: Only announce the winner automatically when everyone has rolled if Announce is set, and a bit of cleanup.`
`17:31.39`	`[dRaCo]`	`I didn't really believe... just being cautious :�`
`17:31.56`	`tlund`	`hmm.. is "rabbit" on the channel under some other nick?`
`17:32.02`	`[dRaCo]`	`yes.`
`17:32.15`	`[dRaCo]`	`v.haarr`
`17:32.20`	`tlund`	`aha!`
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`17:33.44`	`tlund`	`vhaarr: before GroupFu i used to run another roll plugin that handled the timeout for announces in a different way. you set the timeout to (for example) 15 seconds. every time someone would roll, it would restart the timeout. that would be a nice feature for GroupFu :)`
`17:33.59`	`tlund`	`vhaarr: ofcourse, when everyone has rolled, it should just announce.`
`17:34.02`	`vhaarr`	`tlund: It does that already.`
`17:34.49`	`Adirelle\|work`	`groupfu handles roll ?`
`17:34.55`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`17:35.28`	`tlund`	`vhaarr: oh. was that changed recently? or is it a setting?`
`17:35.49`	`tlund`	`vhaarr: last time i used it, it just went "roll ending in 5 seconds" and then it would announce`
`17:35.53`	`vhaarr`	`tlund: No, it has been that way in my branch for ages.`
`17:36.18`	`tlund`	`ok, i will test it again :)`
`17:37.47`	`Teshnor`	`If you're a hunter, get a boar, and name it boarat! grin`
`17:39.40`	`Kemayo`	`_neuron_: Pong?`
`17:39.41`	`Barbanus`	`vhaarr, you pissed anyone off about the SVN lately? :PP`
`17:39.48`	`_neuron_`	`Kemayo, can't remember what I msg'ed you about now :P`
`17:40.01`	`_neuron_`	`ohh, yeah, I'm getting reports escape key is getting dodgy, I'm thinking it's the escape code in your details frame`
`17:40.45`	`_neuron_`	`but I haven't looked too much at it ;)`
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`17:42.49`	`Kemayo`	`Haven't seen any complaints myself -- if you get a detailed error message/description, pass it on and I'll have a look to see whether it's my fault.`
`17:43.08`	`Adirelle\|work`	`vhaarr: would you allow to "refuse roll" by clicking on tooltip names ?`
`17:43.27`	`Adirelle\|work`	`I meant "ignore"`
`17:43.28`	`vhaarr`	`Barbanus: hm, maybe, why?`
`17:43.40`	`vhaarr`	`Adirelle\|work: Why would you need that?`
`17:44.15`	`Adirelle\|work`	`vhaarr: well... some of my guildmates find funny rolling on thing they aren't allowed to...`
`17:44.21`	`Adirelle\|work`	`just to test their luck`
`17:44.24`	`vhaarr`	`Adirelle\|work: aha`
`17:44.32`	`vhaarr`	`Adirelle\|work: Sure, if you want to implement that.`
`17:44.34`	`Kemayo`	`_neuron_: Looking at it, you kept the frame name as "QuestsFu_escapeDetector", which might have caused weirdness if someone was running both our addons for some reason. (Unlikely, I grant.)`
`17:44.38`	`vhaarr`	`Would be simple.`
`17:44.42`	`Adirelle\|work`	`yep`
`17:45.00`	`Adirelle\|work`	`adding a simple boolean in rollers and showing ignored rolls in grey`
`17:45.10`	`vhaarr`	`hrm, okay.`
`17:45.15`	`vhaarr`	`yeah, do that.`
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`17:47.04`	`Adirelle\|work`	`i'll try when I'll have some time`
`17:47.06`	`SlackerJer`	`I run both nQL and questsfu ;D`
`17:47.09`	`Adirelle\|work`	`off to home`
`17:47.43`	`Kemayo`	`SlackerJer: Well, I hope you don't use nQuestLog's details frame module then. :-P`
`17:48.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`i think i might be done with the inital coding on FuBar_RaidInfoFu, now if only i was raid locked to something to actually test it`
`17:48.44`	`Teshnor`	`meh... lame... I am testing out new code and I'm getting ganked by lvl70 warlock...`
`17:48.44`	`Kemayo`	`_neuron_: If such crazy people as SlackerJer exist, you should probably go through the detail frame module and change the tablet names. :D`
`17:48.47`	`vhaarr`	`Arrowmaster: What does it do?`
`17:49.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`just /raidinfo on fubar`
`17:49.06`	`vhaarr`	`aha`
`17:49.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`for now`
`17:49.54`	`NeoTron`	`does the ArkInventory author hang out here?`
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`17:57.03`	`Barbanus`	`vhaarr: oh, I'm just bored .. :P`
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`18:01.12`	`Pneumatus`	`does anyone know of an addon that knows about every tradeskill pattern and can tell you which ones you are missing?`
`18:01.32`	`nadas`	`sylvanaar around? :)`
`18:01.53`	`nadas`	`oops, Saroz i mean`
`18:01.56`	`nadas`	`=/`
`18:04.00`	`nadas`	`~seen Saroz`
`18:04.23`	`purl`	`saroz is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 124 messages. Is idling for 21h 1s, last said: 'Anyone know when curator does Astral Deconstruction?'.`
`18:07.45`	`KarlThePagan`	`Pneumatus, recepie radar does some of that... there's TrainerFu that tells you when you've seen a trainable ability that you've become eligable for`
`18:08.48`	`Pneumatus`	`KarlThePagan: thanks, will take a look at both... i'm sure there are some patterns that i've missed but i cant work out which ones without going through every pattern i can craft :)`
`18:10.44`	`deltron`	`damn, regedit.com changed again :(`
`18:11.17`	`CIA-17`	`03chinkuwaila * r27462 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua:`
`18:11.19`	`CIA-17`	`Cartographer_Quests:`
`18:11.21`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed deDE locals`
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`18:15.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`this is weird, i get the addon blocked popup dialog everytime i try to cast something from my spellbook, but buggrabber isnt catching it and i even registered for ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED in one of my own addons and it didnt go off`
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`18:19.33`	`Saroz`	`nadas!`
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`18:21.18`	`tlund`	`Pneumatus; i am interested in the same thing, can you please let me know if you find one that works?`
`18:23.10`	`Pneumatus`	`tlund: Recipie Radar appears to do something along the lines of what i'm looking for but will only tell you about the recipies in any 1 zone at a time`
`18:24.22`	`Pneumatus`	`it looks like i can view all cooking recipies across every vendor but i cant find a way to do the same for tailoring/ench/etc`
`18:24.53`	`Pneumatus`	`ignore that, i found how to do it, Recipe Radar does everything i need :)`
`18:25.05`	`nadas`	`Saroz: sorry, thought my sRaidFrames was bugged but then i discovered filter sets! <3`
`18:25.09`	`Saroz`	`:D`
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`18:26.16`	`nadas`	`though something seems wrong.. i can't find rogue as a selectable class`
`18:27.25`	`Pneumatus`	`tlund: the only thing this appears not to do is tell you about world drop patterns, it has all the vendor patterns though`
`18:27.34`	`Saroz`	`nadas, oh shitz`
`18:27.36`	`Saroz`	`forgot teh rogues!`
`18:27.41`	`nadas`	`:D`
`18:28.56`	`CIA-17`	`03saroz * r27463 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesGroupFilter.lua: sRaidFrames: No-one tell the rogues`
`18:29.06`	`nadas`	`=)`
`18:29.35`	`CIA-17`	`03saroz * r27464 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesGroupFilter.lua: sRaidFrames: No-one tell LUA`
`18:29.39`	`Saroz`	`:\|`
`18:30.20`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`18:31.00`	`xyu`	`bah i lost all my quests again. seems every time i try updating using wau i lose'm`
`18:31.03`	`xyu`	`for carto`
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`18:34.02`	vid`	`xyu`
`18:34.15`	vid`	`yea i had like half of my recent quests disappear a few updates ago`
`18:34.27`	vid`	`but i just had someone in my guild reshare the mapnotes`
`18:34.30`	vid`	`who hadnt updated`
`18:34.39`	vid`	`and then when they updated and lost em, i rebroadcasted to them`
`18:34.42`	vid`	`and now its fine`
`18:35.06`	vid`	`maybe like a week ago`
`18:35.07`	`Pneumatus`	`is there any way to make cart broadcast automatically or does it have to be done manually?`
`18:35.18`	vid`	`it broadcasts auto when a new note is created`
`18:35.27`	vid`	`but if you want, you can broadcast the entire database, or just a single zone`
`18:35.28`	`Pneumatus`	`just that note or the whole db?`
`18:35.34`	`nevcairiel`	`that note`
`18:35.35`	vid`	`you can broadcast a single note too`
`18:35.46`	vid`	`yea what nev said`
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`18:36.01`	Funkeh`	`hey`
`18:36.02`	vid`	`but like if someone is offline, they wont get it obviously`
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`18:36.18`	vid`	`so you have to share the note manually, or share the whole zone, or share the whole db`
`18:37.10`	`JoshBorke`	`but you have to do it manually =D`
`18:37.30`	vid`	`yea`
`18:38.01`	vid`	`the only thing that broadcasts auto is when a single note is created, manually or automatically by cartog_quests,vendors/etc`
`18:38.40`	`Pneumatus`	`i still need to get more of my guild using it, only 2 of us have noteshare but a dozen or so use cart`
`18:39.03`	`Saroz`	`I got like 15 using it`
`18:39.03`	`Saroz`	`ftw`
`18:39.51`	`CIA-17`	`03raut * r27465 10ItemLevelDKP/ (. ItemLevelDKP.toc core.lua priceList.lua readme.txt):`
`18:39.51`	`CIA-17`	`ItemLevelDKP: Initial commit`
`18:39.51`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:39.56`	`Industrial`	`our whole guild uses it`
`18:39.57`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`18:40.13`	`Industrial`	`seeing where they all are is pretty cool`
`18:40.20`	`Pneumatus`	`what happens if someone mines a node thats already on their cart?`
`18:40.24`	`Industrial`	`can spot poeple ask if they need/want to help etc`
`18:40.33`	`Pneumatus`	`does it re-broadcast the position?`
`18:41.00`	`Industrial`	`oh yeah, also, is every note unique? how does my cart know that a note sent isnt already a note i had`
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`18:42.43`	`CIA-17`	`03saroz * r27466 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesGroupFilter.lua: sRaidFrames: Make classes look pretty`
`18:43.11`	`xyu`	`its weird tho, i have some but the icons aren't showing up`
`18:43.14`	`xyu`	`its just showing (?)`
`18:43.46`	`xyu`	`that's only for hte one's i've gotten since i've updated. my old ones are long gone`
`18:46.00`	vid`	`yea`
`18:46.05`	vid`	`metamap icons is broke`
`18:46.12`	vid`	`you need to grab an old revision`
`18:46.24`	vid`	`author hasnt fixed it`
`18:46.40`	`xyu`	`i didn't get that though, unless it installed it automatically`
`18:46.44`	vid`	`http://files.wowace.com/Cartographer_Icons_MetaMapPack/`
`18:47.57`	`xyu`	`its a shame too, i had a really decent database going`
`18:48.05`	`xyu`	`1-50 horde.`
`18:48.08`	`xyu`	`60-70 alliance and horde`
`18:48.28`	vid`	`xyu: if you used any of the mapnotes style icons`
`18:48.34`	vid`	`like the colored squares, etc`
`18:48.39`	`xyu`	`nope`
`18:48.41`	vid`	`those were part of metamap icons`
`18:48.47`	`xyu`	`never downlaoded that metamap thing`
`18:48.47`	vid`	`it could also be herbalism`
`18:49.01`	`xyu`	`i do have that however, never used it tho`
`18:49.03`	vid`	`there was a bug or something that herbalism showed as as black question mark`
`18:49.17`	vid`	`well black square with red question mark`
`18:49.23`	vid`	`if you had it set to load on demand`
`18:50.20`	`evl`	`hoho, questing with epic mount is so fast`
`18:50.20`	`evl`	`zooom zooooom`
`18:50.20`	vid`	`Pneumatus: cartog has a ranage check on mapnotes`
`18:50.21`	`evl`	`and mining <3`
`18:50.21`	`xyu`	`hmm`
`18:50.21`	vid`	`range*`
`18:50.32`	`xyu`	`so are they gone?`
`18:50.43`	vid`	`if it gets another mapnote within a certain range`
`18:50.48`	vid`	`it will discard it as a dupe`
`18:50.52`	vid`	`i forget range`
`18:51.00`	vid`	`ckknight would know :P think its 15 yards`
`18:51.03`	vid`	`but not 100%`
`18:51.12`	vid`	`probably xyu`
`18:51.14`	`Fisker-`	`~seen kaelten`
`18:51.40`	`purl`	`kaelten <n=kaelten@c-68-63-37-246.hsd1.al.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 13h 18m 40s ago, saying: 'hrm looks like its more like 380 users'.`
`18:51.41`	vid`	`k im out for a bit, bbl`
`18:51.41`	`xyu`	`well i have my 60-70 allaince backed up`
`18:51.41`	`xyu`	`i'll revert to that at least.`
`18:51.49`	`xyu`	`quite a bummer`
`18:52.10`	`xyu`	`i might just use metamap until carto is futher into release`
`18:53.22`	`shieldb`	`hmm... for cartographer_quests, is there a way to convert all my older autocreated quest notes into the new style (where they get filtered based on my current quests) ?`
`18:55.07`	`KarlThePagan`	`you mean questfu shieldb?`
`18:55.19`	`shieldb`	`is that also creating cartographer notes?`
`18:55.24`	`Kemayo`	`No, QuestsFu doesn't make note.`
`18:55.27`	`Kemayo`	`s/note/notes.`
`18:55.27`	`KarlThePagan`	`oh my bad`
`18:55.48`	`KarlThePagan`	`well hmm I think quests need to store their completion data separately from the note... or there needs to be a filter on what data is shared`
`18:55.52`	`shieldb`	`I know questfu records the location of the quest NPC and adds it to the quest info when I talk to someone`
`18:55.57`	`KarlThePagan`	`perhaps something for the database API`
`18:56.22`	`Kemayo`	`I would have added it in, but Cartographer_Quests does everything I might have wanted, so I didn't think it was worth reimplementing.`
`18:56.30`	`KarlThePagan`	`cool`
`18:56.47`	`KarlThePagan`	`IMO tho carto quests needs a few tweaks WRT sharing`
`18:56.53`	`xyu`	`i like the coords added to teh quest log though.`
`18:56.57`	`xyu`	`that's the whole reason i use it`
`18:57.05`	`xyu`	`so i can just type /way (coords)`
`18:57.09`	`xyu`	`instead of looking for some icon :D`
`18:57.18`	`Kemayo`	`xyu: QuestsFu adds questgiver coordinates to the log, too. :D`
`18:57.23`	`xyu`	`yeah`
`18:57.25`	`xyu`	`i'm using qeustfu`
`18:57.26`	`CIA-17`	`03totalpackage * r27467 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua frame.lua):`
`18:57.26`	`CIA-17`	`Cellular`
`18:57.26`	`CIA-17`	`- possible fix for duplicate windows for the same person`
`18:57.32`	`xyu`	`just praising it is all :D`
`18:57.43`	`Kemayo`	`Ah, my contextual parsing was off.`
`18:59.33`	`nevcairiel`	`hm i was wondering`
`18:59.43`	`nevcairiel`	`how does questfu manage to display the correct quests for the subzones?`
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`18:59.55`	`nevcairiel`	`does it scan the quest text for location names?`
`18:59.56`	`CIA-17`	`03totalpackage * r27468 10StellarUF/ (StellarUF.toc baseframes.lua events.lua powerwatch.lua):`
`18:59.56`	`CIA-17`	`StellarUF:`
`18:59.56`	`CIA-17`	`- code cleanup`
`18:59.56`	`CIA-17`	`- tweaked power watch and fix for druids`
`19:02.41`	`Kemayo`	`nevcairiel: Yeah, it scans the quest objective and description for the current subzone. It's hacky, but works reasonably well.`
`19:03.05`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah i noticed`
`19:03.09`	`nevcairiel`	`its kinda cool :)`
`19:03.23`	`durcyn`	`only thing that bugs me is that if i toggle a quest on the tracker, the next subzone switch removes it`
`19:03.34`	`durcyn`	`or am i not supposed to shift-click the questlog anymore?`
`19:03.53`	`Kemayo`	`Shift-clicking in the quest log should still work fine.`
`19:04.15`	`Kemayo`	`Hm, I thought I'd accounted for that. Let me check my notes.`
`19:04.34`	`durcyn`	`last time i tested was a few revs back, ymmv`
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`19:05.05`	`xyu`	`works for me`
`19:05.34`	`tlund`	`vhaarr: the icon for my GroupFu just disapeared after i upgraded to the last one?`
`19:05.36`	`tig`	`could somebody plz add deDE translation for "Ferocious Inspiration" as "Wilde Eingebung" in Babble-Spell?`
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`19:06.46`	`NeoTron`	`does anyone know of a fully customizable unit frame addon other than Discord?`
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`19:06.58`	`NeoTron`	`Discord's level of flexibility rocks but resource use doesn't...`
`19:07.03`	`cncfanatics`	`yo folks !`
`19:07.20`	`cncfanatics`	`has been a while :)`
`19:07.27`	`Kemayo`	`NeoTron: You can do a lot to agUF if you're prepared to write your own layout file.`
`19:07.27`	`durcyn`	`NeoTron: write your own aguf layout?`
`19:07.44`	`NeoTron`	`hmm`
`19:07.55`	`NeoTron`	`didn't think about that option`
`19:08.08`	`NeoTron`	`that's a lot of work, relatively speaking`
`19:08.16`	`NeoTron`	`or rather it's manual. are the layout files just lua?`
`19:08.23`	`durcyn`	`there was one on curse-gaming called Buena pre-bc that was absolutely spectacular. maybe take something like that and tweak it to your satisfaction?`
`19:08.50`	`NeoTron`	`I'm not entirely unhappy with x-perl`
`19:09.08`	`NeoTron`	`and as I no longer play a healer, how my group frames look is no longer that important to me`
`19:09.09`	`cncfanatics`	`aguf > all if you take the time to config it`
`19:09.27`	`NeoTron`	`cncfanatics: when I tried it when 2.0 came out, it just didn't have a layout I liked`
`19:09.38`	`durcyn`	`NeoTron: the layouts are relatively simple. toggle elements then set their position relative to eachother.`
`19:09.41`	`NeoTron`	`and the menu based configuration UI was just too unwieldy to use`
`19:09.53`	`NeoTron`	`now with niagara that particular issue might be fixed though`
`19:09.57`	`durcyn`	`for various definitions of "relatively"`
`19:10.10`	`NeoTron`	`durcyn: that's similar to DUF except you do it manually`
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`19:10.23`	`NeoTron`	`i.e DUF has a UI to "toggle and position"`
`19:10.24`	`Pneumatus`	`the problem i have with agUF is every layout i've seen is too 'blocky' i've not seen anyone make a nice curvy template`
`19:10.45`	`durcyn`	`NeoTron: i'm not talking drag-and-drop, i'm talking hand-edit a layout file :/`
`19:10.49`	`NeoTron`	`I know`
`19:11.02`	`NeoTron`	`that's what I meant - DUF had the same way of configuring but using a UI`
`19:11.17`	`NeoTron`	`what I really want is much like a CastParty type bars`
`19:11.17`	`Barbanus`	`~wowaceupdater`
`19:11.19`	`purl`	`well, wowaceupdater is http://sourceforge.net/projects/wowaceupdater`
`19:11.22`	`NeoTron`	`just very minimalistic`
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`19:11.51`	`NeoTron`	`but of course I want target, pet, target target and perferably also pet target bars.. and focus`
`19:12.18`	`NeoTron`	`I might just stick with x-perl. it works and only thing I don't have is pet target`
`19:12.36`	`beerke`	`hmmm getting ora2 errors in maintaank.lua and playertarget.lua`
`19:12.46`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r27469 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Don't autowatch quests we're already watching (and thus don't de-watch them when we leave the (sub)zone).`
`19:14.01`	`Kemayo`	`NeoTron: Here's the default agUF layout: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ag_UnitFrames/layouts/ABF.lua`
`19:14.28`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone can help me with metatables? no experience with them`
`19:14.32`	`durcyn`	`if you're using x-perl's target-of-party, target-of-pet, etc, then aguf doesn't do anything wonky like that yet`
`19:14.33`	`cncfanatics`	`need to set a default value for a table :p`
`19:14.43`	`tlund`	`FuBar_FactionItemsFu freezes my game for several seconds when i switch outfits with Outfitter. Its even noticable when just splitting something in the inventory or moving something from one slot to another. suspect BAG_UPDATE handler is somehow broken.`
`19:14.50`	`tlund`	`i guess this should go in TRAC?`
`19:15.44`	`NeoTron`	`Kemayo: not complex but figuring it out without many repeated reloads might be a bit rough :P`
`19:16.03`	`NeoTron`	`durcyn: I didn't know x-perl had pettarget. I only use targettarget atm`
`19:17.12`	`Kemayo`	`Yeah, reloading would be an occupational hazard of writing your own layout.`
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`19:17.22`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27470 10BigWigs/Outland/Maulgar.lua:`
`19:17.22`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Outland/Maulgar:`
`19:17.22`	`CIA-17`	`- removed standard heal message, occurs too often`
`19:17.22`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed sporadic PoH message`
`19:17.22`	`CIA-17`	`- you need to update for syncing(message changed)`
`19:17.52`	`Kemayo`	`I noticed that someone made a aUF_Layouts addon packaging up some alternate layouts. There's a chance one of those would meet your needs, too.`
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`19:18.42`	`CIA-17`	`03ominous * r27471 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (Core.lua RuleSet.lua): FuBar_RogueTimerFu: Fixed Remorsless bug so it stops now`
`19:19.07`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone ? need help with metatables`
`19:19.24`	`neenee`	`Not a clue here.`
`19:19.55`	`Kemayo`	`I've never touched them either.`
`19:20.40`	`Kemayo`	`cncfanatics: Try http://lua-users.org/wiki/MetamethodsTutorial`
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`19:21.01`	`cncfanatics`	`thanks Kemayo`
`19:21.18`	`CIA-17`	`03raut * r27472 10ItemLevelDKP/ (. ItemLevelDKP.toc readme.txt): ItemLevelDKP: Cleaning up the initial mess`
`19:21.22`	`Kemayo`	`I used the terribly unobvious approach of googling "lua metatable tutorial". :D`
`19:21.24`	`shieldb`	`ammo: hmm.. getting spammed with WAU messages for all the directories in bigwigs and ora2 that it tries to move out -- is the .wau file in there still a work in progress sort of deal or do I need to update wau or somesuch?`
`19:24.53`	`shieldb`	`oops, guess that should have been [Ammo] to get his attention`
`19:24.54`	`xyu`	`Something i would hope questfu could do for me is when i track quests in the minion it'll put them up there in the order that i bring them up. or have some sort of ordering`
`19:24.54`	`xyu`	`so i know what quests i'm doing first, second..etc`
`19:24.54`	`xyu`	`i plan out all my quests before hand :P`
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`19:24.54`	`Kemayo`	`Yeah, I should sort the tracker, I confess it.`
`19:24.54`	`tlund`	`vhaarr: the icon for my GroupFu just disapeared after i upgraded to the last one.`
`19:24.55`	Funkeh`	`you will get wau errors unless you use wau 1.7 beta 4`
`19:24.55`	Funkeh`	`when updating ora2 and bigwigs`
`19:24.55`	`Pneumatus`	`all we need really is to get questfu to actually do the quests for us`
`19:24.55`	`Kemayo`	`Well, I could probably work out a way to use Tourist to guess which quests are closest to you...`
`19:24.55`	`shieldb`	Funkeh`, aha
`19:24.56`	`shieldb`	`does 1.7b4 work properly with F10 and soforth? I know 1.7b3 had issues with that`
`19:24.59`	`nevcairiel`	`does tourist have subzone data?`
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`19:25.07`	`shieldb`	`time to find out, I guess`
`19:25.57`	`Kemayo`	`nevcairiel: I have no idea. :D`
`19:26.08`	`xyu`	`wow i have some sort of downloader virus filling up my hard drive w/ *.zips...wtf :(`
`19:26.18`	`xyu`	`its running some process called update.exe making me lag`
`19:26.20`	`tlund`	`shieldb: yes, F10 is fixed in b4.`
`19:26.24`	`cncfanatics`	`http://ace.pastey.net/6181 can someone tell me whats wrong with this ?`
`19:26.44`	`cncfanatics`	`the icons appear to way too small, even though I used SetAllPoints`
`19:28.26`	Funkeh`	`don't know don't care tbh :P`
`19:28.47`	`cncfanatics`	`I do !`
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`19:33.31`	`SoBe-`	`dont suppose anyone has issues using cartographer and onebag together? causes onebag bag slots to not show new position until refreshing`
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`19:36.16`	Funkeh`	`cncfanatics: i was referring to wau :p`
`19:36.24`	`cncfanatics`	`oh :p`
`19:36.30`	`neenee`	`SoBe-: I use neither, so I can't help you`
`19:36.33`	`Industrial`	`cncfanatics: ! hows fb2? :D`
`19:36.44`	`Industrial`	`anywhere near usable?`
`19:36.47`	`vhaarr`	`tlund: Oh, sec.`
`19:36.54`	`SoBe-`	`ah ok neenee, thanks anyway. been triyng to track this issue down for a while`
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`19:36.56`	`cncfanatics`	`Industrial, just started coding again`
`19:37.00`	`cncfanatics`	`stuck on some layout issue atm`
`19:37.03`	`Industrial`	`k`
`19:37.05`	`cncfanatics`	`(just reached 70, so back to coding :p)`
`19:37.12`	`tlund`	`vhaarr: it didnt disapear, its just .. invisible. if i toggle it on/off i see the spacing change,`
`19:37.23`	`Industrial`	`hehe`
`19:41.26`	`neenee`	`SoBe-: Are you sure it's Cartographer/OneBag related?`
`19:41.41`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27473 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFu.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: Fix the icon.`
`19:41.53`	`vhaarr`	`tlund: Fixed, although it is actually a FuBarPlugin bug, thanks for the heads up.`
`19:42.49`	`SoBe-`	`yeah neenee`
`19:42.55`	`tlund`	`vhaarr: my pleasure.`
`19:42.56`	`SoBe-`	`soon as i remove cartographer, it works just fine`
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`19:43.09`	`SoBe-`	`i remember having a cartographer error that said something about onebag lib something`
`19:43.29`	`SoBe-`	`ive updated both to latest release, deleted saved variables etc`
`19:43.31`	`SoBe-`	`still no luck`
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`19:44.16`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo 07PT3 * r27474 10Mendeleev/ (MendeleevCats.lua MendeleevGlobals.lua): Mendeleev (PT3 branch): Add new GemsInNodes sets.`
`19:44.18`	`cncfanatics`	`Industrial, u know good lua layouting stuff ? :p`
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`19:48.03`	`SoBe-`	`seems to be related to updatebag`
`19:49.37`	`NeoTron`	`I've discovered, painfully, that ArkInventory suffers from "reorder self on every inventory event" disease`
`19:50.05`	`NeoTron`	`which is especially painful when you switch gear into the bank`
`19:50.13`	`shieldb`	`is there a way in postal to disable alt click to send to current recipient, but keep the other <mod>+click hotkeys?`
`19:50.21`	`shieldb`	`NeoTron, tried baggins?`
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`19:51.26`	`NeoTron`	`shieldb: yes`
`19:51.43`	`NeoTron`	`problem with baggins, at this time, is that it randomly reorders bags when you remove/add items`
`19:52.01`	`NeoTron`	`so the sections are essentially in a random spot and move around every time you modify the inventory`
`19:52.23`	`NeoTron`	`I'm semi-bothered by random locations (i.e every time I change the bag, stuff moves)`
`19:52.34`	`NeoTron`	`I'm more bothered by this happening every time an item is added or removed`
`19:52.55`	`shieldb`	`it seemed like it just put the particular groups wherever there was room for them`
`19:52.57`	`SoBe-`	`seems like im not the only one with this item refresh bug`
`19:52.57`	`NeoTron`	`it would be sufferable if it only happened upon opening the bag`
`19:52.57`	`Industrial`	`thats only if you compress it Neotron`
`19:53.08`	`Industrial`	`the optiont to compress to save space`
`19:53.14`	`NeoTron`	`shieldb: it does yes. However it's very confusing and unuserfriendly`
`19:53.23`	`SoBe-`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1640.400`
`19:53.26`	`NeoTron`	`shieldb: and more than once I have I sold the wrong item because it reordered under me`
`19:53.32`	`NeoTron`	`it's the better addon`
`19:53.36`	`NeoTron`	`but it's just somewhat painful`
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`19:54.13`	`xyu`	`~wau`
`19:54.14`	`purl`	`hmm... wau is WowAceUpdate, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily.`
`19:54.29`	`shieldb`	`I guess I must be thinking about inventory stuff exactly the same way the author does or something, I've found it to be pretty intuitive and such so far -- maybe I've just got a messed up idea of how I should use my inventory and the randomness caters to that :P`
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`19:54.48`	`NeoTron`	`the way both ArkInventory and EngInventory (which is what I used before adn in terms of inventory management still worked great) works is that they reorganize the size of sections but don't move them relative to eachother`
`19:55.19`	`tlund`	`who can change the info in purl? add a note on "wau" that its IRC-channel is #wau here on freenode.`
`19:55.24`	`NeoTron`	`so "bottom right corner" is always whatever I put there, even if it's 1x5, 4x3 or whatever the size might be`
`19:55.35`	`Ominous`	`how do you force an object to stay on the screen?`
`19:55.41`	`shieldb`	`yeah, an anchor point for baggins would be great`
`19:56.07`	`Industrial`	`NeoTron: see my note`
`19:56.20`	`NeoTron`	`Industrial: what note?`
`19:56.26`	`Industrial`	`20:52 < Industrial> thats only if you compress it Neotron`
`19:56.27`	`Industrial`	`20:53 < Industrial> the optiont to compress to save space`
`19:56.31`	`NeoTron`	`well doh`
`19:56.37`	`NeoTron`	`if you don't compress it you get one section per row`
`19:56.40`	`NeoTron`	`which is completely useless`
`19:56.50`	`Industrial`	`in your opinion`
`19:56.52`	`Industrial`	`i like it`
`19:57.04`	`NeoTron`	`I can't see how that possibly would work`
`19:57.10`	`Industrial`	`why not`
`19:57.17`	`NeoTron`	`unlesss each section always had the ~same number of items and you had few sections`
`19:57.25`	`Industrial`	`its just an ordered bag, i know where everything is`
`19:57.33`	`NeoTron`	`because I get a thing that takes all my vertical space with most sections having 1-5 items?`
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`19:57.38`	`NeoTron`	`and some having 10-20`
`19:57.43`	`NeoTron`	`so it's really huge`
`19:58.03`	`CIA-17`	`03fin * r27475 10Prat/extras/blank-module.lua: Prat: extras/blank-module.lua: minor updates and speling corrections`
`19:58.07`	`NeoTron`	`note that I use single bag layout, with quite a few sections`
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`19:58.27`	`NeoTron`	`and one section per row is such a huge waste of space it's not even funny`
`19:59.28`	`Ominous`	`sigh why do i dc when i ask a questiion :P`
`19:59.28`	`NeoTron`	`optimal layout would be to always keep the sections in the order I choose`
`19:59.28`	`cncfanatics`	`channel doesn't like ya :p`
`19:59.28`	`NeoTron`	`but have 1-X sections per row`
`19:59.28`	`Dhraga`	`a question, what do you guys 'n gals recommend for broker addon, just to remeber last auctioned price, auto changing price if not full stack.. .etc, like most of the KCI functions ?`
`19:59.32`	`kenlyric\|home`	`KCI`
`19:59.51`	`Dhraga`	`So KCI is still the best then..`
`20:00.05`	`Dhraga`	`I guess I'll keep using it then =)`
`20:00.14`	`shieldb`	`Unless you want to unleash the behemoth upon your machine (Auctioneer) :P`
`20:00.17`	`kenlyric\|home`	`it's what I use for that function.`
`20:00.26`	`Dhraga`	`Oh no no, not Auctioneer`
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`20:02.08`	`Chinku`	`is anyone aware of a problem with cartographer's waypoint feature that makes the 3D arrow disappear?`
`20:02.30`	`durcyn`	`Chinku: Yeah. it happens when you arrive at your destination.`
`20:02.31`	`Silviu-`	`Chinku i think is a feature`
`20:02.32`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
`20:02.49`	`shieldb`	`Does KCI pick up vendor prices on items when mods like automaton are autovendoring greys? I haven't noticed if mine is catching it or not either way`
`20:03.19`	`Chinku`	`durcyn, hehe :-) nice try, but that's not what I mean :-) it doesn't even show up when I set a mapnote as waypoint.`
`20:04.06`	`Chinku`	`obviously my problem description was quite bad ;-)`
`20:05.03`	`kenlyric\|home`	`shieldb: yes, it does.`
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`20:05.36`	`Chinku`	`durcyn, sometimes when I set it via the /waypoint command it shows up for a real short moment, but then it's gone again...`
`20:05.58`	`KarlThePagan`	`Chinku, sometimes the waypoint will not update if you are in an unrecognized zone`
`20:06.39`	`KarlThePagan`	`what waypoint are you setting Chinku and where is your character located... also do you have your map open?`
`20:07.36`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan, no difference between vendor/herbs/mining/selfmade mapnotes. and also no difference whether the map is open or not.`
`20:07.48`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan, could it be the german client/localizatino?`
`20:07.49`	`KarlThePagan`	`please provide an example`
`20:07.56`	`KarlThePagan`	`Chinku, possibly :/`
`20:08.07`	`KarlThePagan`	`but you would see an error`
`20:08.22`	`KarlThePagan`	`hmmm let me check that code again`
`20:09.43`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan, simple example: map open, right click on a herb note created by cart_herbalism, "set as waypoint" => no arrow.`
`20:09.56`	`KarlThePagan`	`k`
`20:10.04`	`KarlThePagan`	`double-checking the localization stuff`
`20:10.28`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan, more complex: /waypoint x y in my current zone to e.g. find a location retrieved from thottbot makes the temp mapnote appear (red X), makes the arrow appear for half a second or so, then it vanishes again.`
`20:10.54`	`KarlThePagan`	`Chinku, but the red X is still present on the map?`
`20:11.18`	`KarlThePagan`	`here's something very important - Chinku is the red X you marked as a waypoint visible on the continent (zoomed out 1 step) map?`
`20:11.35`	`CIA-17`	`03renchap * r27476 10Yata/ (Localization.lua TotemData.lua):`
`20:11.35`	`CIA-17`	`Yata:`
`20:11.35`	`CIA-17`	`- frFR translation`
`20:11.59`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan, nope, it isn't; there's no other mapnote visible on the continent map.`
`20:12.36`	`KarlThePagan`	`and you do not see any Babble-Zone errors?`
`20:12.36`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan, to anser your previous question: the red X is at the correct position that I passed to /waypoint as parameters x y.`
`20:12.48`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan, nope, no babble errors.`
`20:12.58`	`Fin`	`~seen reanna`
`20:13.33`	`purl`	`Fin: i haven't seen 'reanna'`
`20:13.49`	`Fin`	`thanks purl`
`20:14.04`	`Fin`	`does reanna use IRC with a different nick?`
`20:14.26`	`Fin`	`she asked for people to test ccIcons the other day and I just did, want to give her some feedback`
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`20:16.19`	`KarlThePagan`	`Chinku, ok I think I understand but this might not work - can you edit the lua file and try a fix?`
`20:16.41`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan yes of course.`
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`20:17.02`	`Thorgard`	`Fin, ccIcons?`
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`20:17.51`	`KarlThePagan`	`Chinku, Waypoints.lua line 615 you will see "if not (px and pzone) then" - before that insert a new line "pzone = pzone and BZ[pzone]"`
`20:19.09`	`KarlThePagan`	`Chinku, if you want to double check - http://ace.pastey.net/6182`
`20:19.50`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan, done. stay tuned while reloading ui :-)`
`20:19.59`	`KarlThePagan`	`I think the problem was I misunderstood the localization of one of Cartographer's API methods`
`20:20.10`	`KarlThePagan`	`so I'm pretty sure this will fix it :D`
`20:22.58`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan, you're absolutely right. this fixes it :-) /bow`
`20:23.19`	`KarlThePagan`	`thanks Chinku! I'll check in the fix and everyone will enjoy it - thanks for using waypoints`
`20:23.38`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan, welcome. thanks for writing it!`
`20:24.23`	`CIA-17`	`03karlthepagan * r27477 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua:`
`20:24.23`	`CIA-17`	`Cartographer:`
`20:24.23`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:24.25`	`Fin`	`ccNewIcons, that is`
`20:24.45`	`KarlThePagan`	`Chinku, ckknight gets most of the credit - I'll just take credit for the command-line utilities ;)`
`20:25.02`	`Fin`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6025`
`20:25.39`	`ckknight`	`ew, if not (px and pzone) then should be refactored`
`20:25.43`	`ckknight`	`if not px or not pzone`
`20:26.41`	`Fin`	`oh fantastic`
`20:26.54`	`Fin`	`quit, try and restart - common.MPQ corrupt!`
`20:27.01`	`Fin`	`fanfuckingBRILLIANT`
`20:27.06`	`ckknight`	`repair.exe`
`20:27.12`	`Fin`	`w>`
`20:27.15`	`Fin`	`it's still a load of cock`
`20:27.19`	`CIA-17`	`03ominous * r27478 10ItemEnchantApplication/Core.lua: ItemEnchantApplication: Bug Fixes`
`20:27.23`	`Fin`	`cockity cock cock`
`20:27.35`	`Fin`	`thanks for the tip tho`
`20:28.26`	`Chinku`	`then again, thanks to ckknight, too :-)`
`20:28.59`	`durcyn`	`i could make a joke about "just the tip", but it's just too obvious`
`20:33.33`	`Fin`	`I think you just did`
`20:33.44`	`durcyn`	`touche.`
`20:34.27`	`Fin`	`seriously, I mean, 7+Gb to check through? arg!`
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`20:34.54`	`fanatic`	`yoyo`
`20:35.14`	`fanatic`	`guys`
`20:35.21`	`fanatic`	`how the hell do i "move" my autobar?`
`20:37.31`	`Gngsk`	`ctrl+right click and drag?`
`20:37.56`	`ckknight`	`durcyn: penis.`
`20:41.43`	`mjc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:42.14`	`fanatic`	`ye i found out`
`20:42.25`	`fanatic`	`got a new monitor, video seven LCD display`
`20:42.26`	`Fin`	`10 points to ckknight for discovering the secret hidden joke!`
`20:42.29`	`fanatic`	`anyone of you know if they are any good?`
`20:42.33`	`fanatic`	`they sure are cheap :P`
`20:42.56`	`fanatic`	`ckknight, when is dogchow for vista comming?`
`20:43.10`	`mjc`	`vista ?`
`20:43.17`	`fanatic`	`yes`
`20:43.24`	`fanatic`	`hasta lavista`
`20:43.28`	`mjc`	`how would it break in vista`
`20:43.42`	`fanatic`	`cause its tasta`
`20:43.52`	`Fin`	`fantastica`
`20:44.15`	`fanatic`	`^^`
`20:44.28`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27479 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/ (InstanceMaps.lua Scripts/pack.lua): Cartographer: attempt at adding Gruul's Lair map`
`20:44.36`	`mjc`	`cute`
`20:44.49`	`KarlThePagan`	`ckknight, don't like parenthesis?`
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`20:45.02`	`tig`	`could somebody plz add deDE translation for "Ferocious Inspiration" as "Wilde Eingebung" in Babble-Spell?`
`20:46.29`	`KarlThePagan`	`ckknight, in my experience (including errors I found in Tourist) it's easier for developers to confuse not a or not b`
`20:47.06`	`KarlThePagan`	`not (a and b) is just a straightforward negation of a and b`
`20:47.08`	`mjc`	`Fin: sufficiently modern drives should have no problem ripping through 7GB`
`20:47.13`	`mjc`	`takes about 3 minutes here`
`20:47.54`	`Fin`	`it seems I am insufficiently modern!`
`20:48.05`	`Fin`	`and shit... I think my penis just shrunk`
`20:48.11`	`KarlThePagan`	`old and slow harddisks are old and slow!`
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`20:50.15`	`ckknight`	`I find not a or not b to be clearer.`
`20:50.38`	`Pneumatus`	`any idea why BugSack is listing lots of ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED errors which never appear in windows whem bugsack is disabled?`
`20:50.44`	`Fisker-`	`I hate you ckknight`
`20:50.46`	`Fisker-`	`....NOT`
`20:51.00`	`ckknight`	`?`
`20:51.04`	`Fisker-`	`Borat`
`20:51.06`	`Fisker-`	`:(`
`20:51.10`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`20:51.11`	`ckknight`	`lame.`
`20:51.15`	`ckknight`	`you, not Borat`
`20:51.18`	`ckknight`	`Borat's awesome`
`20:51.22`	`Pneumatus`	`like: [2007/02/07 20:40:44-30-x4]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'FuBar' tried to call the protected function 'TargetofTargetFrame:Show()'.`
`20:51.24`	`Fisker-`	`Was just about to ask`
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`20:58.00`	`CIA-17`	`03fin * r27480 10Prat/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: updated fixalts function; added extra check with import from LOKWhoIsWho`
`21:00.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm just noticed something weird, the distance on the cart waypoint wouldnt update while i was in the twisting nether`
`21:02.42`	`snurre-`	`wts romulo and julianne... 3rd in a row now :/`
`21:03.04`	`SoBe-`	`red riding hood is great`
`21:03.12`	`SoBe-`	`i havent done that one yet`
`21:03.20`	`Pneumatus`	`just wipe then you can do another :)`
`21:03.55`	`Pneumatus`	`i did red riding hood last night`
`21:04.11`	`SoBe-`	`it doesnt give you another one, or were we just insanely lucky?`
`21:04.22`	`SoBe-`	`we whiped first time on riding hood, then got the same thing agian`
`21:04.37`	`Pneumatus`	`when you wipe and speak to the stage guy again you can either pick to do the same event again or get a new one`
`21:04.42`	`SoBe-`	`oh`
`21:05.00`	`NeoTron`	`omg I want to do karazhan already!`
`21:05.08`	`SoBe-`	`too easy imo`
`21:05.15`	`SoBe-`	`well, the bosses ive done`
`21:05.29`	`Pneumatus`	`our first night with Moroes we had a hideous add combo`
`21:05.39`	`SoBe-`	`one shotted midnight/moroes/maiden/rokdar all in one night`
`21:05.49`	`NeoTron`	`SoBe-: note that the early bosses there drop worse loot (or equivalent) to normal l70 5-mans`
`21:05.50`	`SoBe-`	`which adds? the servants?`
`21:05.55`	`NeoTron`	`so I would hope it's not much harder...`
`21:06.00`	`SoBe-`	`yeah NeoTron so ive noticed`
`21:06.22`	`NeoTron`	`it's later on that it gets a bit tricky if I understand correctly. :)`
`21:06.32`	`Pneumatus`	`i dunno, my xbow and dagger are pretty sexy`
`21:06.46`	`SoBe-`	`well, the alliance guild on our server has done like 9 bosses or so, onyl been in there maybe 2 weeks`
`21:06.56`	`SoBe-`	`dont think they raided everyday either`
`21:07.06`	`NeoTron`	`ilevel 105 epics is where it starts`
`21:07.14`	`NeoTron`	`that's not really different from ilevel 115 blues`
`21:07.14`	`Feldia`	`kharazan is like, zg level`
`21:07.20`	`Feldia`	`clearing it isn't a huge accomplishment`
`21:07.24`	`Pneumatus`	`my xbow and dagger are ilevel 100`
`21:07.26`	`SoBe-`	`yeah so ive been told`
`21:07.34`	`SoBe-`	`in like a month, pug should be clearing it`
`21:07.36`	`Pneumatus`	`xbow is better than nerubian slavemaker tho`
`21:07.43`	`NeoTron`	`Pneumatus: so? :)`
`21:07.45`	`CIA-17`	`03fin * r27481 10Prat/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: fixed broken main name display`
`21:07.48`	`Feldia`	`in 2 nights we cleared everything but netherspite / nightbane without any issues`
`21:07.52`	`NeoTron`	`naxx gear is < l70 blues`
`21:08.11`	`NeoTron`	`I'd be surprised if it was worse`
`21:09.02`	`Pneumatus`	`there are only 2 ranged weapons better than the xbow that drops from the first kara boss as it stands`
`21:09.59`	`Proph_`	`feldia: which boss is the hardest??`
`21:11.24`	`NeoTron`	`Pneumatus: of course there might be attributes with the weapon, such as speed/top end damage, that makes it inheritedly better`
`21:11.30`	`Feldia`	`well, prince malchezar is the "final" boss`
`21:11.36`	`NeoTron`	`but it doesn't mean there won't be higher DPS weapons`
`21:11.43`	`Feldia`	`but netherspite / nightbane are there as well, I'm told nightbane is the most difficult`
`21:11.56`	`Feldia`	`but you have to complete a quest line to summon him, which no members of my gruop had yet done`
`21:11.58`	`NeoTron`	`besides, it's not like you have seen much of the higher end 25-man raid loot`
`21:12.01`	`Pneumatus`	`well for a BM hunter 2.9 appears to be a perfect speed to rotate steady shot :)`
`21:12.27`	`Pneumatus`	`well yeh, we cant talk about undiscovered loot`
`21:12.48`	`NeoTron`	`so we've seen what, karazhan loot and gruul's lair loot?`
`21:12.54`	`NeoTron`	`and I suppose the two outdoor bosses`
`21:13.06`	`Pneumatus`	`yeh, and heroic loot`
`21:13.22`	`NeoTron`	`which is basically just l70 blues`
`21:13.35`	`Pneumatus`	`and we dont know if we've seen the full loot tables of Gruuls lair even`
`21:13.47`	`NeoTron`	`naturally`
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`21:14.22`	`Pneumatus`	`kara's loot tables are the only really well known ones at the moment to use for comparison`
`21:16.03`	`NeoTron`	`right`
`21:16.33`	`shieldb`	`is the prince resetting properly after an attempt yet?`
`21:17.02`	`CIA-17`	`03fin * r27482 10Prat/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: rewrote & simplified main name display bit`
`21:20.04`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r27483 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Scripts/pack.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps - place the pack.lua script under GPL`
`21:20.14`	`Proph_`	`hows netherspite compared to prince malchezar? equally very hard? or hardest among bosses in kara beside nightbane?`
`21:20.30`	`Aenslaed`	`does anyone know if you can get cartographer and gatherer to share discoveries?`
`21:20.40`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27484 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFu.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: Don't show pets as officers/leader.`
`21:21.15`	`CIA-17`	`03gits * r27485 10Acolyte/Modules/ (SpellCaster.lua StoneCreator.lua Summoner.lua):`
`21:21.15`	`CIA-17`	`Acolyte:`
`21:21.15`	`CIA-17`	`- it just work now like it should`
`21:21.26`	`mjc`	`NeoTron: inherently`
`21:21.27`	`mjc`	`:p`
`21:21.47`	`nevcairiel`	`netherspite is pretty easy, once you get the tactics figured out, and everybody does his job`
`21:21.52`	`nevcairiel`	`its a coordination fight :D`
`21:22.38`	`NeoTron`	`nevcairiel: some guilds just can't deal with that sort of fights`
`21:22.54`	`NeoTron`	`but with 10 ppl it has to be easier than say c'thun and getting 40 ppl to do the right thing at all times`
`21:23.07`	`mjc`	`lol, you mean guilds with people who don't really care to do what they're supposed to do? :P`
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`21:23.41`	`Proph_`	`is prince malchezar a dps fight? required`
`21:24.02`	`ckknight`	`well, off to school`
`21:24.09`	`shieldb`	`yeah you need to push through his last phase before the axes sap too much mana from your healers keeping people up`
`21:24.10`	`mjc`	`cya ckk'`
`21:24.47`	`Pneumatus`	`guys, can anyone recommend an addon to take a look at the code for adding data to item tooltips?`
`21:24.54`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27486 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.lua: SpyGnome: Fix nil bug.`
`21:24.58`	`NeoTron`	`mjc: I mean the typical "20 good people, 20 along for the ride" guilds`
`21:25.10`	`NeoTron`	`which probably will be less of an issue in 10 and 25 man raids`
`21:25.19`	`mjc`	`that's what 25mans are for`
`21:25.26`	`mjc`	`20 good people, 5 along for the ride`
`21:25.33`	`NeoTron`	`5 man heroic instances`
`21:25.37`	`NeoTron`	`now that's pure adrenaline`
`21:25.39`	`NeoTron`	`:)`
`21:25.46`	`mjc`	`haven't gotten to 70 yet to try it`
`21:25.50`	`NeoTron`	`rather, it was the first time (so far only) we've done it`
`21:25.58`	`NeoTron`	`you'd better not pull aggro`
`21:26.02`	`NeoTron`	`as a clothie`
`21:26.14`	`mjc`	`tank :)`
`21:26.27`	`vhaarr`	`5 man heroic is fun.`
`21:26.28`	`mjc`	`only one person in the guild that cna pull aggro off me`
`21:26.36`	`NeoTron`	`then better hope your healer is all there`
`21:26.38`	`mjc`	`even at 65 the 70s have a hard time :P`
`21:26.38`	`vhaarr`	`It's the only thing we do these days.`
`21:26.56`	`NeoTron`	`our tank, a druid with like 14k+ HP and 17k ac or similar (and enough defense not to be crit)`
`21:27.07`	`NeoTron`	`died in a matter of seconds from a lucky string of hits from a bog overlord`
`21:27.18`	`NeoTron`	`and she even had both renew and regrowth on herself at the time`
`21:29.10`	`mjc`	`heh`
`21:29.13`	`shieldb`	`NeoTron, you should have your tank try maulgar in gruul's lair if you want something that hits real hard :)`
`21:30.09`	`vhaarr`	`~6k hits?`
`21:30.31`	`vhaarr`	`The trash in Slave Pens crits for ~10k on t3 tanks at heroic.`
`21:30.45`	`NeoTron`	`shieldb: at least then you have more than 1 healer`
`21:30.55`	`shieldb`	`yeah though it isn't uncommon to see a 9k crushing at the same time as a 9k mighty blow`
`21:31.03`	`NeoTron`	`vhaarr: but t3 isn't exactly optimal`
`21:31.17`	`vhaarr`	`t3 isn't exactly non-optimal either, what the hell is your point?`
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`21:31.46`	`NeoTron`	`that with better gear you don't get 10k crits (and wtf would you get crits at all - the mobs are mostly level 70)`
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`21:34.00`	`shieldb`	`NeoTron: http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?id=9782 has a lot of good info on readily available tank gear`
`21:34.15`	`NeoTron`	`that said T3 is surpsingly good considering its item level`
`21:34.36`	`NeoTron`	`sometimes I think Blizzard randomly assigns numbers with no logic behind it`
`21:34.52`	`winkiller`	`like in the rogue pvp set? yeah`
`21:35.03`	`shieldb`	`what like the level 61 quest totem for shaman vs. the one that requires heroic mode tokens?`
`21:35.09`	`winkiller`	`stamina? surely good for pvp - nobody needs agi anyways`
`21:35.51`	`NeoTron`	`shieldb: yeah that's just bizarre`
`21:36.16`	`NeoTron`	`what kind of AC does a T3 equipped warrior usually have?`
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`21:40.52`	`Thorgard`	`"Searches related to s&m: assembly language" wtf`
`21:45.52`	`shieldb`	`NeoTron: I think the big difference between the tier 3 sets and the rest of them is that it seems like someone sat down and tried to get the most out of the item budget for the particular class/role, whereas half the new armor pieces seem to have just been run through a random number generator for stat distribution`
`21:47.11`	`shieldb`	`'rest of them' being high ilvl blues or karazhan epics`
`21:47.48`	`kenlyric\|home`	`meh, I need to find a more fun pet.`
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`21:54.17`	`NeoTron`	`kenlyric\|home: boar!`
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`22:04.12`	`kenlyric\|home`	`NeoTron: yeah, boar is what I have... but it's so... boaring. :)`
`22:04.23`	`kenlyric\|home`	`can dragonhawks learn screech?`
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`22:07.02`	`Silverstorm`	`Got a question for you XML gurus: I'm trying to set the anchoring in ArkInventory to grow from the bottom right of the screen. I have the main frame anchored there, and it contains 4 frames. I want to stack them up from the bottom, but the relative anchoring to do that is giving me trouble.`
`22:10.32`	`Silverstorm`	`the first child frame is working, with <Anchor point="BOTTOMRIGHT" relativeTo="$parent" relativePoint="BOTTOMRIGHT" /> and <Anchor point="LEFT" relativeTo="$parent" relativePoint="LEFT" />. The next one up (frame3) can't seem to position itself using relative anchors to frame4`
`22:11.10`	`Silverstorm`	`Frame4 has a size that it inherits from a template, which should give it a defined rectangle to display, correct?`
`22:11.11`	`Uhuru`	`is this normal MrPlow make my pc "freezing" for some seconds, when i run "TheWork" the ram used for addon increase to the max and then my pc freeze for some seconds before returning to a normal ram usage`
`22:12.20`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r27487 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - support GetMinimapShape() for SIDE-* and TRICORNER-* as according to http://www.wowwiki.com/GetMinimapShape`
`22:12.33`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r27488 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: Cartographer_Notes - support GetMinimapShape() for SIDE-* and TRICORNER-* as according to http://www.wowwiki.com/GetMinimapShape`
`22:13.26`	`kenlyric\|home`	`does kharazan have a raid timer?`
`22:13.58`	`Chinku`	`kenlyric\|home, yes it does.`
`22:14.12`	`kenlyric\|home`	`so, it's been out for a month and blizzard still can't update their website?`
`22:14.31`	`kenlyric\|home`	`is it tuesday morning?`
`22:15.20`	`Chinku`	`kenlyric\|home, on EU servers karazhan was reset last wednesday, so it might possibly be the usual 7-day timer.`
`22:15.37`	`kenlyric\|home`	`ok.`
`22:15.38`	`Chinku`	`kenlyric\|home, so yes, it would be on tuesday morning on US realms.`
`22:15.59`	`treebar^away`	`does anyone know if there is an event for when the ui scale is changed??`
`22:16.06`	`Proph_`	`anyone get a weird socket error...i placed a red gem into yellow socket...another redsocket had a red gem...now i dont get the socket bonus....how can i fix this??`
`22:16.44`	`Industrial`	`How do I level a level 10 pet? make it fight level 8 mobs or mobs that are green to me?`
`22:16.57`	`kenlyric\|home`	`It gets XP as you get XP`
`22:17.20`	`KarlThePagan`	`not from questing ;)`
`22:17.22`	`ckknight`	`Industrial: green to you`
`22:17.24`	`KarlThePagan`	`right?`
`22:17.25`	`Proph_`	`anyone get a weird socket error...i placed a red gem into yellow socket...another redsocket had a red gem...now i dont get the socket bonus....how can i fix this??`
`22:17.28`	`ckknight`	`right, KarlThePagan`
`22:17.28`	`kenlyric\|home`	`KarlThePagan: right.`
`22:17.46`	`Chinku`	`hm, ckknight, now that you've updated cart_notes, the question comes to my mind why the cartographer modules use different noteshare messages.`
`22:17.56`	`kenlyric\|home`	`you should pick a pet who is your level if at all possible. No reason at all to do otherwise.`
`22:18.00`	`KarlThePagan`	`Proph_, put a yellow gem in the yellow socket (destroying that red gem)`
`22:18.04`	`Chinku`	`ckknight, do you have any idea if there's a specific reason for that?`
`22:18.09`	`ckknight`	`Chinku: don't know what you mean`
`22:18.31`	`Proph_`	`karl: blah..red gems can actually be placed inside yellow sockets?`
`22:18.32`	`ckknight`	`kenlyric\|home: if you want a special pet like The Rake`
`22:18.44`	`Proph_`	`wasn't looking when i placed the gems in the sockets..`
`22:18.45`	`KarlThePagan`	`Proph_, yus they can, but you don't get the bonus`
`22:18.50`	`KarlThePagan`	`:/`
`22:18.54`	`kenlyric\|home`	`But those pets aren't special anymore, unless you just want the look.`
`22:18.58`	`Proph_`	`shit lol`
`22:19.33`	`KarlThePagan`	`what I want to know is... what about those "more blue than yellow" meta-gems`
`22:19.39`	`KarlThePagan`	`I have no idea how that is calculated`
`22:19.44`	`Chinku`	`ckknight, upon receiving notes via the addon channel, the modules do a range check and can verbosely announce the receipt. some modules use the noteshare message, and some use different messages for output.`
`22:19.47`	`NeoTron`	`kenlyric\|home: now I never got to the level where you can get dash/dive etc but I must admit the boar charge is so dang nice I can't see replacing it easil`
`22:19.58`	`ckknight`	`Chinku: not my problem`
`22:20.03`	`ckknight`	`Chinku: ask the module creators`
`22:20.07`	`kenlyric\|home`	`NeoTron... Dive is good, but screech is better.`
`22:20.13`	`kenlyric\|home`	`AOE damage/aggro magnet is nice.`
`22:20.34`	`deltron`	`screech is really annoying also`
`22:21.19`	`Chinku`	`ckknight, mh, ok. thought you were involved somehow. nevermind. ;-)`
`22:21.37`	`ckknight`	`I just make frameworks`
`22:21.39`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`22:21.41`	`deltron`	`hehe`
`22:21.47`	`deltron`	`ckknight: it's all your fault`
`22:21.57`	`ckknight`	`I'm sorry, it's true`
`22:22.00`	`ckknight`	`I porked your mom.`
`22:23.09`	`deltron`	`hehe`
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`22:24.32`	`deltron`	`that's a comment that's just like my guild hehe`
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`22:31.01`	`Silverstorm`	`anyone available to assist with some XML anchoring issues? I can't figure out why frames aren't located correctl`
`22:31.05`	`Silverstorm`	`y`
`22:32.25`	`Kemayo`	`Anyone happen to know whether the blacksmithing specializations are referred to in the spellbook as, e.g., "Axesmith" or "Axesmithing"?`
`22:33.48`	`Silverstorm`	`if I weren't on a coding alt...I could ask my guildmates :-P`
`22:34.42`	`nymbia`	`i'd assume "Axesmithing" but that's just a guess`
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`22:44.02`	`ilifin`	`any of ye know of there is a mod that counts windfury procs for one fight?`
`22:45.38`	`[dRaCo]`	`if you are using fubar, there's fu_windfuryfu (or something like that)`
`22:46.01`	`ilifin`	`I'm thinking more of an overall extra attack counter`
`22:46.11`	`Gngsk`	`procwatch?`
`22:46.16`	`ilifin`	`since I'm a rogue with swordspec, and shamans are my bestfriends :p`
`22:46.55`	`Pneumatus`	`hmm, is it possible to have the tab character displayed in text output on a tooltip or chat window?`
`22:47.09`	`Pneumatus`	`what would be \t in C style`
`22:47.29`	`ckknight`	`Pneumatus: nah, it shows up as nothing`
`22:47.36`	`ckknight`	`use four spaces or something`
`22:47.45`	`NeoTron`	`isn't it more likely to show up as space?`
`22:47.58`	`ckknight`	`no, it shows up as a no-width character`
`22:47.59`	`Pneumatus`	`i've been playing with that but non-fixed width fonts make it a nightmare to make things line up`
`22:48.08`	`NeoTron`	`nice`
`22:48.21`	`NeoTron`	`Pneumatus: no it makes it impossible, not a nightmare ;-)`
`22:48.44`	`lhunath`	`is there a way for a macro to check whether an action is cooling down before trying to activate it?`
`22:49.51`	`ckknight`	`well, classtime soon`
`22:50.34`	`Pneumatus`	`sigh and now i find out ClassLoot_Data is missing all the MC BoEs`
`22:51.27`	`Pneumatus`	`hmm, they appear to not feature on wow-loot.com, that would explain it`
`22:52.32`	`NeoTron`	`so,,, that would imply that anyone actually... cared about MC BoE's... ;-)`
`22:52.45`	`Pneumatus`	`:)`
`22:53.46`	`fanatic`	`any of you got videoseven lcd monitor?`
`22:54.00`	`Pneumatus`	`i'm trying to make some sexy tooltips on ClassLoot, rolled over all my epics in my bank and the MC BoEs didnt have a tooltip, thats why i noticed :)`
`22:54.41`	`Pneumatus`	`which kinda brings me to the though, why the hell havnt my tier 1s gone in the bin yet`
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`23:00.18`	`Silverstorm`	`heh, I still have Felheart Pants at level 67, due to ZG enchant on them`
`23:00.24`	`Pneumatus`	`sigh hooking tooltips is hideous`
`23:01.23`	`Kemayo`	`Pneumatus: It's gotten better...`
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`23:01.42`	`vhaarr`	`Pneumatus: Hooking tooltips is easy.`
`23:01.50`	`vhaarr`	`Pneumatus: You're just looking at outdated code.`
`23:01.56`	`Pneumatus`	`oh?`
`23:02.05`	`vhaarr`	`Well, you must be, because it's easy now.`
`23:02.26`	`Pneumatus`	`i'm looking at code that has a table of tooltips and a table of methods which it loops through and hooks`
`23:02.31`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r27489 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceLoot/InstanceLoot.lua: Cartographer: InstanceLoot: Checks for nonexistant PT sets should now be functional.`
`23:02.44`	`vhaarr`	`If you're looking at Mendeleev, don't.`
`23:02.47`	`vhaarr`	`Look at my branch instead.`
`23:02.56`	`vhaarr`	`branches/Mendeleev/PT3`
`23:02.57`	`Pneumatus`	`i'm looking at ratingbuster actually`
`23:03.04`	`Pneumatus`	`vhaarr: will do`
`23:03.19`	vid`	`mendeleev still maintained?`
`23:03.24`	vid`	`havent seen it updated in awhile`
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`23:03.34`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27490 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: add Gruul's Lair notes/loot`
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`23:03.45`	`vhaarr`	vid`: Can you just read what I just said?
`23:03.55`	vid`	`yea`
`23:03.57`	`CIA-17`	`03treebar * r27491 10ElectrofluxTextronator/ (Core.lua ReadMe.txt):`
`23:03.57`	`CIA-17`	`ElectrofluxTextronator`
`23:03.57`	`CIA-17`	`- Added frame offset`
`23:03.57`	`CIA-17`	`- Added command to update frame scale`
`23:03.59`	vid`	`you have your own branch`
`23:04.02`	`Pneumatus`	`stacksize <3`
`23:04.27`	vid`	`im talking release ver tho :P`
`23:04.54`	`Pneumatus`	`wow vhaarr, thats so much simpler`
`23:05.17`	`CIA-17`	`03treebar 071.1 * r27492 10ElectrofluxTextronator/:`
`23:05.17`	`CIA-17`	`ElectrofluxTextronator`
`23:05.17`	`CIA-17`	`- Tagged 1.1`
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`23:06.24`	`Pneumatus`	`vhaarr: can i assume that hooking the GameTooltip script means you hook all the child tooltips of that also?`
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`23:06.37`	`Pneumatus`	`anything that extends GameTooltip i mean`
`23:06.43`	`vhaarr`	`Yes.`
`23:06.56`	`Pneumatus`	`sexy`
`23:09.57`	`CIA-17`	`03chinkuwaila * r27493 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua:`
`23:09.57`	`CIA-17`	`Cartographer:`
`23:09.57`	`CIA-17`	`- Cartographer_Waypoints: updated deDE locals`
`23:11.39`	`shieldb`	`hmm... is it baggins or periodic table that's miscategorizing my everlasting underspore frond as equipment?`
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`23:14.30`	`WobWork`	`It could be baggins if you have your filters in the wrong order?`
`23:14.45`	`WobWork`	`They cascade`
`23:14.49`	`shieldb`	`well, it groups it with all my equipment.. in the middle of my other stuff`
`23:15.11`	`WobWork`	`try moving the proper category filter above the equipment one`
`23:15.36`	`shieldb`	`http://oregonstate.edu/~shieldbe/warcraft/baggins.jpg is what I'm seeing - perhaps I'm misinterpreting?`
`23:15.59`	`CIA-17`	`03nebelmond * r27494 10OptiTaunt/ (6 files):`
`23:15.59`	`CIA-17`	`OptiTaunt:`
`23:15.59`	`CIA-17`	`- changed .toc`
`23:15.59`	`CIA-17`	`- added aggro-check feature`
`23:15.59`	`CIA-17`	`- decent changes in readme.txt`
`23:15.59`	`shieldb`	`frond is red leaf looking thing on the far right of the 2nd row in my bank there`
`23:16.38`	`WobWork`	`what is it supposed to be?`
`23:16.46`	`shieldb`	`probably other if anything`
`23:16.55`	`shieldb`	`you right click on it, it generates 10 food/water`
`23:16.58`	`shieldb`	`12 hour cooldown`
`23:17.07`	`WobWork`	`Sounds equipmenty to me`
`23:17.11`	`WobWork`	`trinketish even`
`23:17.13`	`shieldb`	`You can't equip it`
`23:17.14`	`shieldb`	`:)`
`23:17.28`	`nymbia`	`shieldb: there's no entries for it in PT so it must be getting put there because of its quality or soulbinding?`
`23:17.42`	`shieldb`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28111`
`23:18.12`	`kenlyric\|home`	`how would you categorize it?`
`23:18.24`	`shieldb`	`out of the available categories, other`
`23:18.35`	`shieldb`	`or whatever category mounts or other "use but don't equip" items go in`
`23:18.49`	`kenlyric\|home`	`how was that harvest item categorized?`
`23:18.54`	`nymbia`	`even quest would be better than equipment`
`23:19.40`	`WobWork`	`It's not precisely a quest item, but a reward, yeah?`
`23:19.52`	`nymbia`	`yup`
`23:20.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I'd drop it under consumables, but that's a poor palce as well. :\`
`23:20.07`	`Gngsk`	`misc`
`23:20.52`	`nymbia`	`it belongs where those battleground tokens are. they arent quest items in any way anymore, but they're still under quest`
`23:21.34`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r27495 10Babble-2.2/ (5 files in 2 dirs):`
`23:21.34`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`23:21.34`	`CIA-17`	`-Babble-2.2:`
`23:21.34`	`CIA-17`	`-Add Babble-Tradeskill-2.2. (Blacksmithing specializations need research, and may get changed shortly.)`
`23:22.15`	`kenlyric\|home`	`battleground tokens are trade goods. You trade them in for lootz.`
`23:22.51`	`shieldb`	`battleground tokens are currency imo`
`23:23.03`	`WobWork`	`"Slightly less good as BC greens" lootz`
`23:23.10`	`Chinku`	`kenlyric\|home, hm. one could argue that only those items being available for player-to-player trade were trade goods.`
`23:23.15`	`nymbia`	`well they're under quest in that screenshot. that's all i'm saying ;)`
`23:24.08`	`WobWork`	`What are things like the saltshaker under?`
`23:24.17`	`WobWork`	`non consumed cooldown items`
`23:24.17`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r27496 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: -Tradeskill: Remove typo of "draconscale leatherworking" in translations from Mendeleev.`
`23:24.52`	`shieldb`	`nymbia, is there something like the currency category? For stuff like the world pvp tokens, spirit shards, glowcap, battleground marks, etc`
`23:25.00`	`shieldb`	`like a currency category, rather`
`23:25.57`	`WobWork`	`why not?`
`23:26.03`	`WobWork`	`We should be able to add that into PT`
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`23:26.20`	`nymbia`	`well`
`23:26.59`	`nymbia`	`some of those things belong solidly under 'quest' as well`
`23:27.09`	`WobWork`	`Well`
`23:27.14`	`WobWork`	`it's not an exclusive category`
`23:27.33`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo 07PT3 * r27497 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.toc MendeleevCats.lua): Mendeleev (PT3 branch): Use Babble-Ore and Babble-Tradeskill for translations.`
`23:27.33`	`WobWork`	`if you put quest before your currency filter`
`23:27.40`	`WobWork`	`it'll take them out`
`23:28.09`	`WobWork`	`but they're all used as currency`
`23:28.23`	`WobWork`	`so why not have a PT category that people can choose if they want?`
`23:28.29`	`chutwig`	`_neuron_: how does nquestlog decide what quests to highlight?`
`23:28.37`	`_neuron_`	`by use of magic`
`23:28.39`	`_neuron_`	`(and regex)`
`23:28.47`	`chutwig`	`apparently because it seems to be doing it at random`
`23:28.56`	`nymbia`	`WobWork: yeah, i agree... i'll throw one together later if nobody else does`
`23:28.57`	`Kemayo`	`chutwig: It looks for the current zone and subzone in the quest's objective and description, I recall.`
`23:28.57`	`_neuron_`	`it'll highlight based on subzone for example`
`23:29.00`	`chutwig`	`or at least my 2-cell brain can't figure it out`
`23:29.02`	`Chinku`	`_neuron_: regex sometimes is magic, isn't it? :-)`
`23:29.07`	`_neuron_`	`mhm :P`
`23:29.25`	`Kemayo`	`Any sufficiently advanced regexp is indistinguisable from gibberish?`
`23:29.27`	`_neuron_`	`yeah, it also looks for the current zone in quest objectives if your in a remote zone (so it highlights quests you get in zone A for zone B if your in zone B)`
`23:29.29`	`chutwig`	`more like unholy art`
`23:29.41`	`Kemayo`	`s/gibberish/line noise/`
`23:29.48`	`WobWork`	`Kemayo: ^^`
`23:29.55`	`chutwig`	`i like the highlighting of terms in the quest descriptions`
`23:29.58`	`WobWork`	`It's true.`
`23:30.12`	`chutwig`	`i just noticed that it doesn't highlight "of" if it's between two terms, though it does work for other words like "and", i think`
`23:30.18`	`WobWork`	`In the old days, a sufficiently complex regexp would disconnect my modem =\`
`23:30.21`	`_neuron_`	`ohh, that highlighting`
`23:30.22`	`CIA-17`	`03pneumatus * r27498 10ClassLoot/ (. ClassLoot.lua ClassLoot.toc Locale-enUS.lua):`
`23:30.22`	`CIA-17`	`ClassLoot:`
`23:30.22`	`CIA-17`	`- ClassLoot data added to tooltips`
`23:30.24`	`shieldb`	`regexps are one of the fun things that are frequently harder to read then to write`
`23:30.24`	`chutwig`	`well`
`23:30.26`	`_neuron_`	`word highlighting? that's kemayo's magic`
`23:30.40`	`chutwig`	`i meant changing the background color of the quest in the tracker itself`
`23:30.46`	`chutwig`	`now i'm talking about the OTHER highlighting`
`23:30.51`	`_neuron_`	`I took one quick look at it and decided I wasn't gonna figure those out :P`
`23:30.55`	`_neuron_`	`ah :P`
`23:30.58`	`Kemayo`	`_neuron_: Well, it was initially my magic. ckknight rewrote most of it.`
`23:31.06`	`_neuron_`	`ah`
`23:31.15`	`_neuron_`	`recently? :P, maybe I should steal it again`
`23:31.21`	`Kemayo`	`My magic was simpler, but his is better.`
`23:31.22`	`chutwig`	`speaking of which, could you add at some point in the future the ability to change the background color of the zone name in the tracker?`
`23:31.46`	`_neuron_`	`hm, maybe`
`23:31.54`	`_neuron_`	`chances increase when you post it on the forum though :p`
`23:32.03`	`_neuron_`	`increases the chances I'll remember quite a bit`
`23:32.17`	`chutwig`	`murf`
`23:34.13`	`chutwig`	`i think that factionsfu may well be the most wonderful thing ever devised`
`23:34.13`	`Chinku`	`shieldb: yeah, regexp sometimes are even impossible to read. I once saw a regexp reportedly being able to check e-mail addresses for validity. horrible stuff. ;-)`
`23:35.39`	`anenigma`	`I've seen that regexp, it's hute`
`23:35.43`	`anenigma`	`s/hute/huge/`
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`23:36.03`	`chutwig`	`and truly hideous`
`23:36.39`	`Chinku`	`anenigma: yup, indeed. someone posted it on the news system of a mud i play; it took about 3 pages on a 50 line terminal. ;-)`
`23:37.05`	`chutwig`	`chances are it was probably unnecessarily expanded somewhat for dramatic impact`
`23:37.13`	`Pneumatus`	`do i need to create a page on the wiki for ClassLoot myself or will a temporary page for it get generated automatically?`
`23:37.27`	`chutwig`	`like "let's not use series but type out ABCDE...abcde instead"`
`23:37.42`	`WobWork`	`hehe`
`23:38.51`	`chutwig`	`i look forward to 3 months from now when the market has settled down and i can actually sell all these mats i'm slowly accumulating in the bank`
`23:38.52`	`CIA-17`	`03jncl * r27499 10Skinner/Skinner.lua: Skinner: Fix for relativeTo bug as reported by Fin`
`23:39.50`	`anenigma`	`Chinku: http://www.regular-expressions.info/email.html <-- bottom of page`
`23:39.52`	`anenigma`	`chutwig: ^^ see that too`
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`23:40.34`	`chutwig`	`i think RFCs exist specifically so that anyone can ignore them`
`23:41.22`	`Chinku`	`anenigma: that looks like it, lots of brackets and @. now my brains got twisted :-)`
`23:41.46`	`chutwig`	`i feel bad for the parser that has to eat that`
`23:42.02`	`ckknight`	`alright, I'm thinking I'm gonna rename the Ace Options data table to the Standard Options data table`
`23:42.07`	`Pneumatus`	`for a regex that doesnt actually work properly thats one hell of a bit mess of code :)`
`23:42.10`	`shieldb`	`chutwig, but.. but... rfc 3514!`
`23:42.49`	`nymbia`	`ckknight: so it doesnt scare non-ace authors away from using it?`
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`23:42.59`	`ckknight`	`yes, nymbia`
`23:43.03`	`kenlyric\|home`	`chutwing... heh, on my server it's a seller's market. I'm selling everything I get my hands on.`
`23:43.15`	`ckknight`	`I'm also planning on moving the documentation for said standard to wowwiki from wowace`
`23:43.30`	`ckknight`	`so that the wowace implementations (AceConsole, Dewdrop, Waterfall) are just implementations`
`23:43.33`	`chutwig`	`i have an herb bag full of stuff that nobody wants to buy`
`23:43.38`	`chutwig`	`likewise with gems and minerals`
`23:43.52`	`fanatic`	`guys`
`23:44.01`	`ckknight`	`hrm?`
`23:44.04`	`chutwig`	`3.2k away from fast bird :(`
`23:44.04`	`fanatic`	`is there a Ace/fubar addon for auto-equipping riding crop?`
`23:44.10`	`fanatic`	`or general "mount gear"`
`23:44.18`	`ckknight`	`ClosetGnome?`
`23:44.20`	`nymbia`	`fanatic: closetgnome`
`23:44.22`	`Pneumatus`	`GoGoGadgetRidingCropFu`
`23:44.26`	`kenlyric\|home`	`seriously chutwig? what herbs can't you drop?`
`23:44.27`	`Pneumatus`	`(may be a lie)`
`23:44.38`	`fanatic`	`is ClosetGnome just for that?`
`23:44.46`	`ckknight`	`fanatic: and other sets`
`23:44.53`	`ckknight`	`not just mounts`
`23:44.53`	`chutwig`	`kenlyric\|home: anything from outlands because nobody is ever monitoring trade in shattrath`
`23:45.01`	`shieldb`	`ClostGnome is sort of like an ace version of itemrack or wardrobe`
`23:45.03`	`chutwig`	`i admit to a certain disdain for the AH`
`23:45.07`	`chutwig`	`if there were one in shattrath i'd use it more`
`23:45.10`	`KarlThePagan`	`Chinku, you still around?`
`23:45.10`	vid`	`blah`
`23:45.14`	vid`	`curse download servers down`
`23:45.15`	vid`	`:(`
`23:45.16`	`nymbia`	`fanatic: no, its for general outfit management. and you need ClosetGnome_Mount for mount gear autoequipping ;)`
`23:45.20`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan, here I am :-)`
`23:45.37`	`fanatic`	`ClosetGnome_Mount?`
`23:45.40`	`fanatic`	`or just ClosetGnome`
`23:45.45`	`nymbia`	`both`
`23:45.47`	vid`	`closetgnome rocks`
`23:45.49`	`fanatic`	`ah, thanks`
`23:46.01`	`kenlyric\|home`	`chutwig: ewww, trade?`
`23:46.03`	`kenlyric\|home`	`AH, foo!`
`23:46.06`	`fanatic`	`btw, latest WinAceUpdater beta gives me an error`
`23:46.12`	`fanatic`	`that i can choose to ignore`
`23:46.21`	`sergio`	`is there an addon that just helps you link tradeskill mats`
`23:46.25`	`sergio`	`nothing else`
`23:46.35`	`shieldb`	`sergio, just for linking? o_0`
`23:46.36`	vid`	`manufac, but it has other stuff ;P`
`23:46.41`	`shieldb`	`manufac does lots of other stuff, too`
`23:46.45`	`fanatic`	`yes, gogoogogogadgetlinkonlytradeskillmats_fu`
`23:46.47`	vid`	`yea :(`
`23:46.48`	`Cyrez`	`Does nobody in WoW pay attention when somebody has DND up?`
`23:46.51`	`Pneumatus`	`haha`
`23:46.58`	vid`	`fanatic: get to it!`
`23:47.01`	`kenlyric\|home`	`DND means I am a bot.`
`23:47.03`	`chutwig`	`kenlyric\|home: i don't want to go to IF :(`
`23:47.10`	vid`	`gogogogogoogadget_suite-1.0`
`23:47.17`	`CIA-17`	`03karlthepagan * r27500 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua:`
`23:47.17`	`CIA-17`	`Cartographer:`
`23:47.17`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:47.18`	`kenlyric\|home`	`chutwig, get an AH alt, now :)`
`23:47.22`	`KarlThePagan`	`Chinku, please test that`
`23:47.32`	`kenlyric\|home`	`this stuff is overpriced now. Sell now!`
`23:47.36`	vid`	`hey`
`23:47.39`	`Cyrez`	`No, DND means I'm on my roommate's toon and don't feel like talking to people I don't know. ^^`
`23:47.42`	`kenlyric\|home`	`knothide leather is 15g a stack on my server. It's insane.`
`23:47.45`	vid`	`that corpse waypoint module for cartog is a cool idea`
`23:47.46`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan: mh. is it urgent? ;-)`
`23:47.52`	vid`	`but... does it delete the waypoint when you res?`
`23:47.53`	`fanatic`	`no kenlyric\|home, dident you hear that the Asian burning crusade retails now comes with 2 new titles to be selected trough the character screen? "Farmer" and "Bot"`
`23:47.57`	vid`	`or do you have ot manually delete the waypoint`
`23:47.59`	`KarlThePagan`	`Chinku, no not urgent - what this feature does is, it makes your current waypoint visible on your continent world map`
`23:48.01`	`shieldb`	`if you're playing alliance I'd imagine that the draenei AH probably isn't too badly crowded. Go ah alt!`
`23:48.02`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Cyrez: maybe to you. But trust me, it means "I am a bot" to everyone else in the world.`
`23:48.21`	`KarlThePagan`	`just let me know if it works for you or not - that change won't do a thing to enXX locales`
`23:48.22`	`chutwig`	`oh i don't care about crowded`
`23:48.32`	`chutwig`	`i just hate schlepping to IF and having to kill my hearth to get back to outlands`
`23:48.36`	`chutwig`	`either that or 10 minutes on the bird`
`23:48.39`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I rerolled my bank/AH alt as draenei just cause I like sitting in that city.`
`23:48.51`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan: ok, that's how I understood your changelog message... I'm sorry, but atm I feel like going to sleep, it's already close to 1 a.m. here. ;-)`
`23:48.51`	`Cyrez`	`Everybody else has chocolate syrup for brains, then.`
`23:48.58`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I don't know how people live without bank/AH alts.`
`23:49.05`	`KarlThePagan`	`Chinku, np np night night`
`23:49.10`	`Pneumatus`	`chutwig: portal to SW, do what you gotta do, group with a guildee, enter stockades, leave group, return to your HS location for free!`
`23:49.13`	`shieldb`	`chutwig, just make a level 1 draenei guy, send him 50g. Every time you want to sell stuff, mail it to the alt and have him put it on the AH :)`
`23:49.16`	`Cyrez`	`Generalizations are for people that are too lazy to think.`
`23:49.21`	`*** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk)`
`23:49.32`	`Pneumatus`	`same applies for horde and that instance in orgrimmar`
`23:49.46`	`shieldb`	`ragefire chasm`
`23:49.51`	`kenlyric\|home`	`shieldb, you do know that if you hearth is on cooldown that it'll burn your cooldown, right?`
`23:49.52`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan: okay, will give it a try tomorrow.`
`23:49.57`	`shieldb`	`yep`
`23:50.12`	`kenlyric\|home`	`so, that's a lot of useless work. Just get a bank alt :)`
`23:50.13`	`shieldb`	`I'm aware of that, but I think you meant to tag Pneumatus on that :)`
`23:50.27`	`kenlyric\|home`	`30 copper to save yourself 10-15 minutes of travel time is well worth it :)`
`23:50.45`	`Chinku`	`night :-)`
`23:50.53`	`Pneumatus`	`well, my HS is shatt, i normally HS there to portal to do AH stuff`
`23:50.59`	`shieldb`	`I use a bank alt unless I'm looking at jewelcrafting or enchanting plans, then the 'show usable' checkbox on the AH to filter all the stuff I already know is really useful`
`23:51.26`	vid`	`i dont even use bank slots anymore on my banker`
`23:51.26`	`kenlyric\|home`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:51.30`	vid`	`i just leave it all in mail`
`23:51.38`	vid`	`and return it to myself when i need it since returns are instant :P`
`23:51.45`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I don't use bank slots because3 I sell everything in the AH :)`
`23:51.56`	`Pneumatus`	`yeh, the "Usable Items" tickbox makes my life so much easier finding patterns`
`23:52.15`	vid`	`im still using gmail`
`23:52.16`	`Pneumatus`	`where i can see 6 people trying to sell lifestealing for 200g a pop`
`23:52.23`	vid`	`so i just check off the mails and hit return`
`23:52.26`	vid`	`nice and fast`
`23:52.54`	`shieldb`	vid`, have you tried bulkmail?
`23:53.01`	`kenlyric\|home`	`heh... KCItems told me that the riding crop pattern was selling for 200g. I'm guessing it didn't actually sell for that much :)`
`23:53.06`	`Pneumatus`	`i use Postal now, seems to do pretty much the same`
`23:53.50`	`Pneumatus`	`i AHd one for 15g or something on my realm and it sold within minutes`
`23:53.56`	`ckknight`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4676.0`
`23:53.59`	`kenlyric\|home`	`god, it sucks that ll the good boar abilities are in westfall and lakeshire.`
`23:54.46`	`ckknight`	`can anyone think of a better name than Standard Options data table?`
`23:56.26`	`shieldb`	`I use postal and bulkmail just for the auto mail queing in bulkmail, postal for all the other cool stuff it does`
`23:57.10`	`shieldb`	`With bulkmail you can just set up autosend lists, so when I hit the mailbox and go to the send mail tab it automatically pops up a window with all the items I want to mail to my bank guy queued up`
`23:57.42`	`shieldb`	`it's nice if you send the same items to the same characters all the time`
`23:57.44`	`*** join/#wowace Antiar1 (n=Chris@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net)`

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