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`00:00.05`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27501 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.lua: SpyGnome: Add some debug output for something I don't understand.`
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`00:09.47`	`KarlThePagan`	`ckknight, Configuration Options data table perhaps`
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`00:10.05`	`ckknight`	`Configuration Options seems redundant`
`00:10.07`	`ckknight`	`not sure`
`00:10.16`	`ckknight`	`but yea, Configuration would be good to have in it`
`00:10.50`	`Birdemani[FH]`	`spy gnome?`
`00:11.05`	`ckknight`	`Birdemani[FH]: it spies on the addons your partymembers use`
`00:11.21`	`Birdemani[FH]`	`oo nice`
`00:11.21`	`Barbanus`	`LOL`
`00:11.25`	`ckknight`	`by spy, it really just checks version numbers`
`00:11.32`	`Pneumatus`	`like an automated VersionChecker?`
`00:11.38`	`ckknight`	`I believe so`
`00:11.48`	`ckknight`	`mine was just a way to show how to do it`
`00:11.55`	`ckknight`	`I expected someone to expand it`
`00:11.59`	`ckknight`	`or expand on the idea`
`00:12.08`	`ckknight`	`VersionChecker is very nice, though, you must admit`
`00:12.46`	`vhaarr`	`Since when did you make that addon? :P`
`00:12.51`	`vhaarr`	`If I knew I would never made SpyGnome.`
`00:12.59`	`nymbia`	`lol`
`00:13.13`	`Pneumatus`	`i only installed VersionChecker today to see who else was using cart noteshare in my guild :)`
`00:13.26`	`Barbanus`	`lol`
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`00:14.41`	`Pneumatus`	`hmm, i wonder if spygnome version compare would work with ClassLoot`
`00:15.17`	`vhaarr`	`The real question is whether AceComm can get the version from ClassLoot, not whether SpyGnome can.`
`00:15.20`	`vhaarr`	`And it probably can.`
`00:15.31`	`Pneumatus`	`yeh it can`
`00:15.34`	`Pneumatus`	`but the version is a string`
`00:15.54`	`ckknight`	`no issue there`
`00:15.57`	`Pneumatus`	`VersionChecker can get the version so i'd assume spygnome could also`
`00:16.00`	`vhaarr`	`Well SpyGnome currently just strips all non-numeric characters from the version string, does a if verA > verB then.`
`00:16.23`	`vhaarr`	`And colors the version red, green or blue accordingly.`
`00:16.24`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr: I'd've turned periods into 0's myself`
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`00:16.30`	`ckknight`	`then strip other chars`
`00:16.39`	`ckknight`	`dunno`
`00:16.42`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: It's late here, explain.`
`00:16.48`	`ckknight`	`actually, that wouldn't work`
`00:16.49`	`ckknight`	`nvm`
`00:16.51`	`ckknight`	`don't worry about it`
`00:16.53`	`vhaarr`	`right`
`00:16.54`	`Pneumatus`	`hah, well it would work perfectly then, because i have YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS in the string`
`00:17.06`	`ckknight`	`Pneumatus: yea, that'll be fine.`
`00:17.07`	`Pneumatus`	`which can always be compared with >`
`00:17.12`	`vhaarr`	`indeed`
`00:17.34`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr: what do you think a better name for AceOptions data table would be?`
`00:17.50`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: AddOnOptionTable.`
`00:18.05`	`ckknight`	`or maybe AddonConfigTable`
`00:18.08`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`00:18.08`	`fanatic`	`guys`
`00:18.11`	`fanatic`	`with closetgnome`
`00:18.14`	`ckknight`	`hay guise!`
`00:18.17`	`vhaarr`	`guise?`
`00:18.19`	`vhaarr`	`:D`
`00:18.21`	`fanatic`	`is it possible to remove that god damn roleplay spam`
`00:18.25`	`vhaarr`	`Yes.`
`00:18.30`	`fanatic`	`how?`
`00:18.30`	`vhaarr`	`Freaking read the options already.`
`00:18.37`	`fanatic`	`there is an option?`
`00:18.42`	`Gngsk`	`whutz optinz?`
`00:18.43`	`ckknight`	`why wouldn't there be?`
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`00:18.47`	`[dRaCo]`	`It's called "quips"`
`00:18.48`	`fanatic`	`why whould there`
`00:18.49`	`Ominous_`	`wee oRA and BigWigs have been packaged for WAU`
`00:19.42`	`Pneumatus`	`:< the quips are the best thing about closetgnome`
`00:20.02`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: I wouldn't go with Config, it sounds more like a table of key = value pairs, then.`
`00:20.05`	`vhaarr`	`Pneumatus: Indeed!`
`00:20.08`	`vhaarr`	`<3`
`00:20.17`	`ckknight`	`AddonOptionTable...`
`00:20.17`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`00:20.30`	`vhaarr`	`I agree it's not perfect, but I can't think of anything better.`
`00:20.43`	`ckknight`	`I had thought Standard Options data table`
`00:20.50`	`ckknight`	`maybe StandardOptionTable would work as well...`
`00:20.53`	`ckknight`	`or so`
`00:21.09`	`vhaarr`	`hrm`
`00:21.34`	`vhaarr`	`How about just OptionTable?`
`00:21.52`	`ckknight`	`hrm, maybe`
`00:22.00`	`vhaarr`	`I don't like Standard either.`
`00:22.14`	`vhaarr`	`well anyway, back to coding this DKP mod, yay`
`00:22.19`	`fanatic`	`got a new LCD monitor today and i sitll havent found the fucking off switch`
`00:22.21`	`fanatic`	`annoys me`
`00:22.46`	`fanatic`	`are there any ace mods that turns off videoseven LCD monitors`
`00:23.17`	`lhunath`	`The following macro on a bartender button triggers the 'Ace2 was blocked from performing an action reserved to the Blizzard UI'-dialog: /cast [equipped:Shields] Shield Bash; [stance:3] Pummel; Berserker Stance`
`00:23.37`	`vhaarr`	`And all your addons are updated?`
`00:23.52`	`vhaarr`	`There was a known but with ClosetGnome_Banker and equipped: macros.`
`00:23.55`	`lhunath`	`updated an hour ago.`
`00:23.57`	`vhaarr`	`But I fixed that, I think.`
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`00:24.06`	`lhunath`	`don't have closetgnome`
`00:24.11`	`lhunath`	`:o`
`00:24.39`	`lhunath`	`other macros work fine, lemme see if I can isolate.`
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`00:26.14`	`Ominous`	`i am having trouble with the toc to svn script... can anyone here help?... its not updating for any of my addons`
`00:26.21`	`lhunath`	`it's got to be the [equipped:]-check that breaks it.`
`00:28.17`	`lhunath`	`okay, /cast Attack in the chat box also causes the dialog.`
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`00:36.04`	`Ominous`	`anyone? ^^`
`00:37.01`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit 07PT3 * r27502 10Mendeleev/MendeleevCats.lua: Mendeleev: Fix vein names.`
`00:38.00`	`WobWork`	`Ominous: Doesn't Tekkub have to run it?`
`00:38.50`	`Ominous`	`i thought it was a post commit hook but i could be wrong`
`00:46.54`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr: problem I see with OptionTable is that it sounds too informal and loose`
`00:47.07`	`ckknight`	`by attaching a proper name to it, it defines it as something concrete`
`00:47.15`	`ckknight`	`and standardized`
`00:47.55`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: true`
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`00:49.05`	`Teshnor`	`heh... just did a 25 man raid on Undercity :) mad!`
`00:49.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`so anybody got any ideas for stuff to put in my fubar mod that displays instance raidlocks?`
`00:50.25`	`vhaarr`	`Arrowmaster: Display tangible information, like the first line of the tooltip should be "<instance> resets: Tomorrow", where <instance> is the next instance to reset, and the time ("Tomorrow") being something that can be understood instantly.`
`00:50.55`	`shieldb`	`Arrowmaster, it would be cool to have it store a list of all your raid members when you downed a boss for also displaying who else is saved to your timer`
`00:51.26`	`shieldb`	`especially for cases when your guild has three karazhan groups :)`
`00:51.29`	`vhaarr`	`And then more detailed information below, obviously.`
`00:51.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`well right now im basicly displaying the exact same thing as the /raidinfo window`
`00:52.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`instance name, id, SecondsToTime() of time left`
`00:52.32`	`Birdemani[FH]`	`any way at all to stop the ora spam of changing chanels party?`
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`00:52.52`	`BankZ`	`What do you guys like better, baggins or OneBag?`
`00:53.21`	`vhaarr`	`Arrowmaster: Who cares about the ID?`
`00:53.24`	`vhaarr`	`Seriously.`
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`00:54.14`	`_neuron_`	`BankZ, arkinventory :p`
`00:54.38`	`shieldb`	`Arrowmaster, you could have it pass raid IDs across the raid and kick up some notification if someone is saved to a different ID then your own`
`00:55.13`	`BankZ`	`_neuron_: what makes that better?`
`00:55.21`	`_neuron_`	`test em all BankZ`
`00:55.23`	`_neuron_`	`and sanity2`
`00:55.27`	`_neuron_`	`then make your own decission`
`00:55.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`all that involves stuff that would only work if others were running it`
`00:55.44`	`shieldb`	`that doesn't mean it wouldn't be neat`
`00:56.05`	`shieldb`	`questfu displays party member's quest progress if they're on the same quests, but it still does stuff apart from that :)`
`00:56.31`	`mjc`	`meh`
`00:56.35`	`mjc`	`stuck at authenticating = lame`
`00:57.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats because questfu uses another library that actually does all the quest info sharing`
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`00:57.15`	`shieldb`	`You asked for ideas on what else you could do with a fubar mod for instance lockouts, so I suggested some stuff :)`
`00:57.16`	`_neuron_`	`oh god dammit... /me 's been in lfg for the entire friggin day, got one group, and they were morons.`
`00:57.41`	`_neuron_`	`this is driving me nuts.. instances should be hard because they are hard, not because the tank doesn't know what crowd control is`
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`00:58.10`	`Gngsk`	`pugs ftl`
`00:58.15`	`BankZ`	`let me guess, you are a mage`
`00:58.18`	`Gngsk`	`your time is better spent grinding some reputation`
`00:58.18`	`_neuron_`	`warlock`
`00:58.24`	`BankZ`	`close enough`
`00:58.27`	`ilifin`	`pugs in TBC = olol`
`00:58.39`	`ilifin`	`some of the instances just aren't puggable, EVER`
`00:58.56`	`_neuron_`	`<-- ex very very active raider, and now in a guild with veeery laid back casuals`
`00:59.03`	`ckknight`	`well, political science time`
`00:59.06`	`_neuron_`	`driving me nuts`
`00:59.08`	`Gngsk`	`later ckk`
`00:59.09`	`ilifin`	`I'm in a guild with laidback active raiders`
`00:59.23`	`SkorcherX`	`me as well`
`00:59.35`	`_neuron_`	`ilifin, at this point I'd join any 66+ instance, but the guild can't even pull that off`
`00:59.42`	`ilifin`	`Q_Q`
`00:59.43`	`BankZ`	`we are just starting to raid again`
`00:59.52`	`ilifin`	`we just had our final member hit 70 uh.. 2 days ago`
`00:59.58`	`_neuron_`	`exactly`
`00:59.59`	`BankZ`	`darn it, I cant logon`
`01:00.18`	`Gigaknight`	`anyone here on Blackrock?`
`01:00.20`	`_neuron_`	`I've taken two char's on new servers from MC grind to AQ40`
`01:00.26`	`_neuron_`	`now I'm doing 5man's with 13 year olds`
`01:00.27`	`_neuron_`	`wee...`
`01:00.31`	`ilifin`	`I'm trying to write a fubar plugin for myself that shows how many times I've gotten an extra attack`
`01:00.43`	`ilifin`	`and joy is lua different from what I'm used to`
`01:00.50`	`shieldb`	`_neuron_, if you can't do normal mode stuff without too much trouble you're pretty screwed with heroic :(`
`01:00.52`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r27503 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua:`
`01:00.52`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`01:00.52`	`CIA-17`	`- Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua`
`01:00.52`	`CIA-17`	`- really UTF-8 save`
`01:00.52`	`CIA-17`	`- Korean locales crash fix`
`01:00.52`	`CIA-17`	`- Update locale koKR`
`01:00.58`	`_neuron_`	`shieldb, yeah I know..`
`01:01.05`	`_neuron_`	`but I'd like to think I'm a heroic level player :P`
`01:01.07`	`cladhaire`	`anyone here use Cirk's Targetz?`
`01:01.21`	`shieldb`	`got super active well playing friends on the server you can 'pug' with? :)`
`01:01.26`	`shieldb`	`woo 5pm = hometime`
`01:01.36`	`_neuron_`	`nope, transfered there to start up a guild with super active people`
`01:01.40`	`_neuron_`	`but that didn't happen :p`
`01:01.44`	`_neuron_`	`no clue where they are playing now :/`
`01:02.32`	`Gigaknight`	`I am getting really frustrated, can someone explain to me what SVN is? In layman's terms, analogies if possible. :s`
`01:02.40`	`NeoTron`	`Anyone done shattered halls in a PUG? :P`
`01:02.43`	`_neuron_`	`Gigaknight, version tracking system`
`01:02.48`	`kergoth`	`hmm, whats the race specific priest spell for blood elves?`
`01:02.51`	`ilifin`	`subversion, a.. efb, what _neuron_ said`
`01:02.53`	`_neuron_`	`NeoTron, yeah, we got halfway...`
`01:02.54`	`kergoth`	`like that shadow shield thingy trolls get`
`01:03.07`	`Gigaknight`	`Can SVN be used for web development?`
`01:03.15`	`Gigaknight`	`That's where i'm getting snagged.`
`01:03.29`	`kergoth`	`of course it can`
`01:03.34`	`_neuron_`	`NeoTron, me and the priest had some pre BC epics still and knew what we were doing, rest of the group should all be shot, hung, and then neutered to be 100% sure they dont reproduce`
`01:03.48`	`kergoth`	`an scm tool makes sense for any mostly textual data, generally`
`01:03.57`	`Gigaknight`	`SCM?`
`01:03.58`	`ilifin`	`NeoTron, SH in a pug?`
`01:04.03`	`lhunath`	`okay, my macros bugged my UI enough so that now the enemy's health bar does not update anymore on any addons, and the models of the enemy is stuck in its initial position as soon as you attack it; when you run off it does follow you but you see it standing where it was when you started the fight ;x`
`01:04.11`	`ilifin`	`my god, I'm clawing at air at the frustration that might cause`
`01:04.13`	`lhunath`	`never knew addons could have that an impact on the UI`
`01:04.30`	`fanatic`	`guys`
`01:04.32`	`_neuron_`	`ilifin, I'm in that world atm :P`
`01:04.37`	`ilifin`	`_neuron_ _ Q_Q`
`01:04.39`	`fanatic`	`any of you got a videoseven lcd monitor`
`01:05.04`	`ilifin`	`I did 7 SH runs or so with the most awesomest zerg ever; priest rogue(me) hunter warlock and warrior`
`01:05.12`	`_neuron_`	`the warrior couldn't tank worth shit, so I used void to tank (even with felguard spec, because nobody ever healed the pet, ever, so it took a bit of dmg..)`
`01:05.20`	`ilifin`	`since SH is a veeeeeery fear-friendly instance, we had 8 mobs feared while we pulled more :p`
`01:05.53`	`_neuron_`	`yeah, when we were doing it I was cc'ing and tanking 3-4 mobs while 3 other dps'ers were on the other one..`
`01:06.03`	`_neuron_`	`insanly active run for me, and we got halfway`
`01:06.08`	`_neuron_`	`(and it took an insane amount of time)`
`01:06.13`	`ilifin`	`ouchei`
`01:06.18`	`NeoTron`	`_neuron_: it's probably one of the main instances I wouldn't ever consider running in a PUG`
`01:06.28`	`ilifin`	`indeed NeoTron`
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`01:06.31`	`_neuron_`	`NeoTron, I wouldn't either, but I'm stuck on that server now :p`
`01:06.31`	`ilifin`	`that and arcatraz`
`01:06.37`	`_neuron_`	`and I dunno wtf else I'd do :(`
`01:06.37`	`ilifin`	`arcatraz in a pug`
`01:06.38`	`NeoTron`	`ilifin: we've done it with 2xlock, priest, druid(tank), rogue`
`01:06.39`	`NeoTron`	`fear ftw`
`01:06.50`	`Gigaknight`	`Can anyone recommend a good IRC channel to go to to chat to people re: SVN for web dev?`
`01:06.54`	`NeoTron`	`yes that would be the second one I'd never try`
`01:06.57`	`kergoth`	`Gigaknight, i suggest you read on wikipedia a bit about scm tools and configuration management`
`01:07.00`	`kergoth`	`Gigaknight, uh, #svn perhaps?`
`01:07.11`	`Gigaknight`	`oh wow, nice`
`01:07.12`	`kergoth`	`but if you go there without having done preliminary research yourself, good luck`
`01:07.12`	`Gigaknight`	`~!`
`01:07.23`	`purl`	`well, ! is what my big sibling dpkg uses instead of ~, or not, or what dpkg uses dumbass`
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`01:07.26`	`NeoTron`	`in general BC instances are more fear friendly`
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`01:07.51`	`ilifin`	`oh we had our friend the priest hit psychic scream in steamvault`
`01:07.58`	`ilifin`	`I ran for the exit the moment he di`
`01:08.00`	`_neuron_`	`yeah NeoTron, but not very moron friendly`
`01:08.19`	`leech`	`I get to fear a lot more in TBC :-)`
`01:08.27`	`ilifin`	`I get to..`
`01:08.36`	`ilifin`	`no, I don't get to do anything new`
`01:08.39`	`ilifin`	`yay rogue!`
`01:08.39`	`_neuron_`	`hehe`
`01:08.48`	`ilifin`	`or well I'm spamming cloak of shadows`
`01:08.52`	`_neuron_`	`I get to tank a hell of a lot more than I used to with my lock :P`
`01:09.02`	`ilifin`	`oh yea, I get to tank`
`01:09.16`	`leech`	`yeah whats up with locks doing crappy dps and still pulling aggro :-)`
`01:09.21`	`ilifin`	`put a draenei shaman in my group with imp wf totems and say goodbye me`
`01:09.28`	`_neuron_`	`leech, hah, 50% agro dump, soulshatter`
`01:09.29`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r27504 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:`
`01:09.29`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`01:09.30`	`CIA-17`	`-Boss: Flesh out BRD, BFD, Gnomer, and Mara.`
`01:09.41`	`_neuron_`	`and in the instances I've been in so far I've done more than 50% of the groups damage every single time`
`01:09.45`	`leech`	`hmm what level do locks get soulshatter?`
`01:09.45`	`_neuron_`	`(which says a lot about the groups as well...)`
`01:09.48`	`_neuron_`	`leech, 70`
`01:09.49`	`ilifin`	`_neuron_ - our friend the lock said that`
`01:09.51`	`ilifin`	`".. resist"`
`01:09.56`	`ilifin`	`"Mariam has died."`
`01:09.59`	`_neuron_`	`ilifin, .. soulshatter can't resist`
`01:10.03`	`_neuron_`	`it's not a targetted spell`
`01:10.08`	`_neuron_`	`it just drops agro`
`01:10.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`its an aoe spell`
`01:10.12`	`ilifin`	`it's like feign death`
`01:10.13`	`leech`	`hmm in my guild the locks cant keep up with mage or rogue dps`
`01:10.20`	`leech`	`_neuron_: what build are u?`
`01:10.22`	`_neuron_`	`leech, your locks are noobs`
`01:10.23`	`ilifin`	`it can be resisted :p`
`01:10.32`	`_neuron_`	`leech, felguard/destro, high dps raid/pve build`
`01:10.38`	`leech`	`hmm`
`01:10.41`	`_neuron_`	`hm, guess it can, never had that happen ;)`
`01:10.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`heh`
`01:10.47`	`leech`	`felguard with destro hmm`
`01:11.04`	`_neuron_`	`felguard destro = stuff like bane, to decrease casting time on shadow bolts`
`01:11.10`	`_neuron_`	`and destructive reach for threat reduction`
`01:11.14`	`ilifin`	`oh shadowbolts`
`01:11.19`	`_neuron_`	`not fire stuff ;)`
`01:11.19`	`ilifin`	`my friend the lock uses incinerate`
`01:11.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`you must have shit for mana efficiency`
`01:11.30`	`leech`	`pretty much a typical soulink build though?`
`01:11.42`	`Gigaknight`	`nymbia is the best person ever`
`01:11.52`	`_neuron_`	`leech, typical felguard build with the rest of the points into destruction, boosting shadowbolt dmg`
`01:11.59`	`leech`	`kk`
`01:12.06`	vid`	`ooo`
`01:12.10`	vid`	`my cast bar is smooth again`
`01:12.13`	vid`	`no more jumping`
`01:12.36`	`leech`	`we have 2 active locks 1 destro 1 affliction and they do about the same dps depending on the fights`
`01:12.42`	`nymbia`	`O.o`
`01:12.44`	`ilifin`	`which events fire when you leave/enter combat?`
`01:12.49`	`NeoTron`	`me = demo/affliction`
`01:12.54`	`NeoTron`	`I use almost solely incinerate`
`01:13.00`	`_neuron_`	`well, destro sucks for pve tbh, unless you got really really good gear, affliction is good up to around 66, at that point mobs hit too hard`
`01:13.12`	`leech`	`incenerate is lower dps than shadowbolt isnt it?`
`01:13.13`	`_neuron_`	`incinerate is good if you dont have bane, if you have bane shadowbolts are waaay better`
`01:13.22`	`_neuron_`	`yeah, and same casting speed if you have bane`
`01:13.24`	`NeoTron`	`leech: possibly with shadow specs`
`01:13.29`	`ilifin`	`incinirate with immolate up on the mob is bastardness`
`01:13.35`	`NeoTron`	`err I mean possibly if you have destruction sufficiently`
`01:13.36`	`ilifin`	`without typos`
`01:13.47`	`_neuron_`	`no, you need fire spec for incinerate to do decent damage at all`
`01:13.49`	`NeoTron`	`incinerate + immolate does similar damage to shadow bolt`
`01:14.00`	`NeoTron`	`my incinerate hits for ~1500`
`01:14.00`	`_neuron_`	`NeoTron, only if you dont have points in bane :P`
`01:14.08`	`_neuron_`	`my shadowbolt hits for 2700`
`01:14.10`	`_neuron_`	`without CoS`
`01:14.13`	`_neuron_`	`*1700`
`01:14.15`	`NeoTron`	`I'm not destro specced`
`01:14.21`	`leech`	`hmm`
`01:14.48`	`NeoTron`	`basically I do more dps than the lock that has 40 aff/21 dest and uses shadow bolts (with ruin) in addition to lots of dots`
`01:14.55`	`_neuron_`	`NeoTron, yeah, but in order for it to be better it has to be a lot better, you gain over 100 more spelldmg and a pet that hits like a truck with demonology`
`01:15.09`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo 07PT3 * r27505 10Mendeleev/ (5 files):`
`01:15.09`	`CIA-17`	`Mendeleev (PT3 branch): Drycoded.`
`01:15.09`	`CIA-17`	`-Split out instance loot into three branches, which will be loaded depending on your level.`
`01:15.10`	`CIA-17`	`-Updated rest of the mineral veins to match previous commit. ("Copper Vein" instead of "Copper".)`
`01:15.17`	`_neuron_`	`aff/destro aint great though :p`
`01:15.25`	`NeoTron`	`_neuron_: my pet, in two instance runs, did almost 10% of all damage`
`01:15.34`	`_neuron_`	`NeoTron, mine's usually around 20-30%`
`01:15.42`	`_neuron_`	`I've had him outdps a rogue`
`01:15.50`	`_neuron_`	`shit rogue, but still`
`01:15.50`	`NeoTron`	`that must have been one shitty rogue`
`01:15.53`	`NeoTron`	`he only does about 200 dps`
`01:15.54`	`_neuron_`	`heh, yeah ;)`
`01:16.03`	`_neuron_`	`that was my shattered halls run`
`01:16.03`	`_neuron_`	`<3`
`01:16.04`	`_neuron_`	`...`
`01:16.09`	`NeoTron`	`probably a bit higher in instances since he can keep his AP bonus going more than solo`
`01:16.14`	`ilifin`	`I hit 900-1k dps on my rogue with raidbuffs`
`01:16.17`	`ilifin`	`<3`
`01:16.20`	`_neuron_`	`his demonic frenzy is up 100% though`
`01:16.25`	`NeoTron`	`right`
`01:16.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`heh`
`01:16.38`	`NeoTron`	`still I love demo/affliction and I tried various builds`
`01:16.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`i think i can keep a constant 1k dps without buffs`
`01:16.51`	`NeoTron`	`pure >41 affliction is just too many dots to apply/keep track of/use effectively`
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`01:16.52`	`ilifin`	`which class?`
`01:16.57`	`NeoTron`	`I didn't like a lot in destructions`
`01:17.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`warlock`
`01:17.04`	`kenlyric\|home`	`ug... every time I try to paste in a quest KC_items thinks it's an item and tries to find a matching link.`
`01:17.05`	`leech`	`NeoTron: mobs die to fast for that many dots`
`01:17.09`	`NeoTron`	`right`
`01:17.13`	`_neuron_`	`NeoTron, your 70? I found affliction less and less effective`
`01:17.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`42/0/19`
`01:17.18`	`_neuron_`	`dropped it in blades edge`
`01:17.20`	`NeoTron`	`I'm 70 yes`
`01:17.38`	`NeoTron`	`in the raid I have perhaps 900-950 spell dmg with frequent use of trinkets to get it over 1000`
`01:17.53`	`_neuron_`	`I have around 850 without trinkets`
`01:17.59`	`NeoTron`	`basically I just 3xdot everything and incinerate main target when I'm done dotting`
`01:18.00`	`_neuron_`	`and without buffs`
`01:18.12`	`NeoTron`	`yeah it's about the same as me`
`01:18.23`	`_neuron_`	`yeah`
`01:18.30`	`NeoTron`	`my incinerate hits for more with demo/aff (15/46/0) than it did with destruction ironically`
`01:18.30`	`_neuron_`	`and I bet that'd work with a tank that has any god damn clue what he's doing`
`01:18.38`	`NeoTron`	`a druid`
`01:18.41`	`NeoTron`	`:)`
`01:18.44`	`_neuron_`	`that'd work`
`01:18.47`	`NeoTron`	`but yes, I do sometimes end up tanking`
`01:18.50`	`_neuron_`	`hehe`
`01:18.57`	`NeoTron`	`the second boss in shattered halls is fun`
`01:19.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`your shadowbolts should hit harder than incinerates`
`01:19.01`	`NeoTron`	`I always ends up taking`
`01:19.06`	`NeoTron`	`Arrowmaster: no`
`01:19.18`	`NeoTron`	`or rather, not if you take into account the cast time`
`01:19.27`	`NeoTron`	`more per hit, but less dps`
`01:19.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`same cast time with bane`
`01:19.33`	`NeoTron`	`again I don't have bane`
`01:19.37`	`_neuron_`	`he's not specced for bane ;)`
`01:19.38`	`NeoTron`	`15/46/0`
`01:19.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh`
`01:19.43`	`_neuron_`	`same as I did, it was a nice spell without bane`
`01:19.47`	`_neuron_`	`it became shit when I got bane :P`
`01:20.07`	`NeoTron`	`still I didn't really have have enough crit to make shadow bolts worth it`
`01:20.12`	`NeoTron`	`if you don't crit it doesn't matter much`
`01:20.23`	`_neuron_`	`it's higher overall dps with bane`
`01:20.44`	`NeoTron`	`problem is`
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`01:20.52`	`NeoTron`	`even when bane hits, things die too fast in 5-mans`
`01:20.56`	`NeoTron`	`raids might be different`
`01:21.07`	`_neuron_`	`your thinking improved shadow bolt`
`01:21.09`	`_neuron_`	`bane reduces cast time :p`
`01:21.11`	`NeoTron`	`I can usually never get off more than 3-4 hits total, if that, on a mob`
`01:21.14`	`NeoTron`	`err. right`
`01:21.24`	`_neuron_`	`improved shadowbolt does nothing interesting tbh :P`
`01:21.27`	`_neuron_`	`but bane does ;)`
`01:22.16`	`NeoTron`	`I still want a build where I can solo and drain life is really useful for that`
`01:22.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`mobs live for about 1min in heroic 5mans`
`01:22.38`	`NeoTron`	`Arrowmaster: mobs live shorter in heroic modes for us`
`01:22.41`	`_neuron_`	`NeoTron, and dark pact .. <3`
`01:22.44`	`NeoTron`	`since in non-heroic we dot everything`
`01:22.51`	`NeoTron`	`while in heroic we all kill one at a time`
`01:22.58`	`NeoTron`	`more concentrated fire, same HP = faster dead`
`01:23.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh i dot everything in heroic`
`01:23.22`	`NeoTron`	`no CC? how do you survive that?`
`01:23.32`	`_neuron_`	`fear ftw`
`01:23.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`i fear`
`01:23.37`	`NeoTron`	`well that's good when it works`
`01:23.39`	`_neuron_`	`resist rrrrreally ftl :P`
`01:23.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`works fine`
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`01:23.46`	`NeoTron`	`but in some instances that doesn't work.`
`01:24.19`	`NeoTron`	`so in heroic mode arcatraz (if anyone is insane enough to do that), can you still enslave those sweet demons? :P`
`01:24.29`	`NeoTron`	`they would do insane DPS in heroic mode`
`01:24.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`which demons?`
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`01:25.17`	`NeoTron`	`there are packs of 4 demon trash, some stealthed demons etc`
`01:25.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh`
`01:25.32`	`NeoTron`	`I think they have a similar model to those in felwood`
`01:25.35`	`NeoTron`	`satyrs?`
`01:25.57`	`Arrowmaster`	`the only ones i tried to enslave were the ones by the last boss and they were immune`
`01:26.04`	`NeoTron`	`thse are earlier`
`01:26.17`	`NeoTron`	`but the rogue kind hits for like 450x2 (dual wield) and stealths`
`01:26.26`	`NeoTron`	`another kind hits for perhaps 700-800 with 900+ cleaves`
`01:26.38`	`NeoTron`	`they buffed my DPS significantly :)`
`01:26.50`	`axxo`	`the rogue types hit for 1k, crit for 2k`
`01:26.58`	`NeoTron`	`there are two rogue types`
`01:27.01`	`axxo`	`trickster`
`01:27.04`	`NeoTron`	`one has gouge, one has stealth`
`01:27.21`	`NeoTron`	`the gouge one hits harder, but doesn't dual wield I don't think`
`01:27.40`	`NeoTron`	`still, nice. too bad priests mind control doesn't work the same way`
`01:27.51`	`NeoTron`	`but I guess it'd be too powerful to always be able to MC a target and still heal`
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`01:28.18`	`NeoTron`	`ttfn`
`01:29.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`im trying to remember what it was i enslaved that got a 1.5k white hit`
`01:30.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh it was a demon in botanica i think`
`01:32.01`	`axxo`	`tried shattered halls heroic?`
`01:32.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`not yet`
`01:32.26`	`axxo`	`do you still dot everyting there Oo?`
`01:32.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`i kite entire groups around in normal though`
`01:33.08`	`Gigaknight`	`arrow have you tried enslaving stuff @ Kil'Jaeden's Throne?`
`01:33.20`	`axxo`	`how?`
`01:33.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`no last time i went up there i had to spirit res so i havent gone back`
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`01:33.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`CoEx`
`01:36.12`	`Prophy`	`when i make a macro-- /cast kick /tell test YOU NEXT.... how can i make it not spam when i press that button multiple times?`
`01:36.41`	`_neuron_`	`you cant`
`01:36.56`	`Prophy`	`shitty`
`01:37.02`	`Prophy`	`any mods?`
`01:37.06`	`_neuron_`	`not possible`
`01:37.13`	`_neuron_`	`since 2.0`
`01:37.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`is with mods`
`01:37.28`	`Prophy`	`any mods that ccheck if the kick went off? or CS?`
`01:37.30`	`_neuron_`	`Arrowmaster, you can't cast a spell and trigger based on casting can you?`
`01:38.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`you can make a mod that checks if your kick does damage or if you inturupt something, and yell based on that`
`01:38.58`	`_neuron_`	`I guess`
`01:38.58`	`_neuron_`	`it'd be annoying though :p`
`01:39.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`not really, perty easy to do`
`01:39.47`	`_neuron_`	`if my rogue spams every time he uses and ability he'd be removed from the group :P`
`01:40.03`	`Prophy`	`hmm how can i make that arrowmaster?`
`01:40.27`	`kenlyric\|home`	`doing at as /say or /emote would be fine.`
`01:40.45`	`kenlyric\|home`	`A lot better that double-dealing silencing abilities.`
`01:41.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`you'd have to monitor the combat log for certain text`
`01:42.13`	`Prophy`	`which mod?`
`01:42.21`	`Prophy`	`to monitor combat log for that text`
`01:43.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`you would have to write your own`
`01:43.48`	`Prophy`	`any examples? =)`
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`01:51.59`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r27506 10nQuestLog/ (modules/Coloring.lua options.lua):`
`01:52.00`	`CIA-17`	`nQuestLog :`
`01:52.00`	`CIA-17`	`- Update locale koKR`
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`02:04.47`	`Myrathi`	`Dammit.`
`02:05.13`	`Myrathi`	`The downside to drinking 3 cans of Irn Bru.`
`02:05.25`	`Azurewrath`	`what's Irn Bru?`
`02:05.45`	`Myrathi`	`Drink (soda) originating in Scotland. ;)`
`02:05.54`	`Myrathi`	`Like Coca Cola but.. not.`
`02:05.59`	`Azurewrath`	`hehe, ok`
`02:06.05`	`Myrathi`	`Hellafizzy.`
`02:06.25`	`Myrathi`	`http://www.irn-bru.co.uk/`
`02:07.26`	`Myrathi`	`And huzzah: finally managed to resolve my STLport problems.... and have no idea how. Oo`
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`02:20.12`	`CIA-17`	`03laotseu * r27507 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed-enUS.lua AllPlayed.lua):`
`02:20.12`	`CIA-17`	`AllPlayed:`
`02:20.12`	`CIA-17`	`- Added sort by rested XP and reverse rested XP`
`02:23.11`	`ilifin`	`where/how can I find a list of the various icons available for i.e. macros? need the windfury icon`
`02:26.37`	`cladhaire`	`thottbot.com, then check the properties on the image`
`02:28.40`	`ilifin`	`mm thanks`
`02:28.47`	`ilifin`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List worked too`
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`02:38.28`	`PProvost`	`Hey pastamance, any chance of going ahead and propagating the new files script and keeping the old text files in place too?`
`02:39.13`	`PProvost`	`s/pastamance/pastamancer/`
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`02:41.14`	`sylvanaar`	`PProvost what is changing?`
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`02:44.16`	`cladhaire`	`we've written a script that will transparently convert all ace addons to use a hybrid of the cosmos libraries, and dongle imo`
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`02:47.31`	`Daemona`	`omg, this ownz me totally -> http://www.lez.hu/hentaitsop2.swf`
`02:50.48`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r27508 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Maiden.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Maiden: Add the second repentance yell trigger.`
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`02:51.39`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`02:51.41`	`ckknight`	`how's everyone doing?`
`02:52.05`	`nymbia`	`not bad ckknight`
`02:52.06`	`sylvanaar`	`oh that sounds like its going to be fun`
`02:52.08`	`nymbia`	`yourself?`
`02:52.12`	`ckknight`	`I'm okay`
`02:52.17`	`ckknight`	`just got back from school`
`02:52.23`	`ckknight`	`class today consisted of two quizes`
`02:52.33`	`ckknight`	`of both I completed in 10 minutes each`
`02:53.04`	`nymbia`	`lol, fun.`
`02:53.54`	`sylvanaar`	`awrite im going to play wow`
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`03:09.49`	`Myrathi`	`ckk: Mornin' bro.`
`03:10.02`	`ckknight`	`so I'm thinking of making a Hunter...`
`03:10.04`	`Myrathi`	`Even if I am about 15 mins late. :p`
`03:11.04`	`Myrathi`	`And damn, that tsop2 background music is catchy. ><`
`03:11.09`	`Amadeo`	`ckknight: Don't like your other chars?`
`03:11.17`	`ckknight`	`I dunno`
`03:11.21`	`ckknight`	`I have my lvl 30 shaman`
`03:11.26`	`ckknight`	`but I just don't know...`
`03:11.42`	`Amadeo`	`I love my Shaman, until I have to heal...Man, I hate healing`
`03:11.44`	`Myrathi`	`BM and MM hunters are fun. Depends whether you like pet tanking or snipe pwnage.`
`03:11.55`	`ckknight`	`I want to be good for PvP eventually`
`03:12.04`	`Myrathi`	`Never tried a survival spec, so can't comment.`
`03:12.20`	`Amadeo`	`I honestly think all classes can be good for PvP`
`03:12.37`	`Amadeo`	`So your best bet is to play what you enjoy the most`
`03:12.56`	`ckknight`	`I don't know what that is.`
`03:13.23`	`Amadeo`	`If you feel like you want to try new classes, maybe it means you're not as happy with your Shaman as you think you should be :)`
`03:14.00`	`Amadeo`	`but I wouldn't let people sway you by saying one class is overpowered and such`
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`03:14.55`	`Amadeo`	`All the negativity surrounding Warriors made me think I was going to be destroyed by everyone...but, it's been the opposite`
`03:15.20`	`Amadeo`	`Priest and I killed a group of 6 Horde the other day, it was amazing!`
`03:15.32`	`Amadeo`	`I'm not sure if they were in seperate groups or just happened to be there`
`03:15.32`	`Daemona`	`thats the trick about warriors`
`03:15.35`	`ilifin`	`which events are most accurate for when you enter/leave combat?`
`03:15.38`	`Daemona`	`bring a priest, so you cant be CC'd`
`03:15.49`	`Amadeo`	`Yeah, even though I'd prefer a Paladin :)`
`03:15.50`	`Daemona`	`regen enabled/disabled`
`03:16.23`	`ilifin`	`well daemona, as a rogue, regen_disabled goes off 1 second -after- I cheap shot something for instance`
`03:16.27`	`ilifin`	`it's as if it lags`
`03:16.30`	`Amadeo`	`My gear sucks, so I've been amazed at how well I'm doing`
`03:17.02`	`ckknight`	`Amadeo: would you recommend a certain class to me?`
`03:17.06`	`ckknight`	`I'm open to anything`
`03:17.19`	`Daemona`	`warlock`
`03:17.19`	`ckknight`	`just want to have fun`
`03:17.27`	`ckknight`	`ah, don't really want to be a lock`
`03:17.29`	`ckknight`	`my brother's a lock`
`03:18.05`	`Amadeo`	`ckknight: Just for PvP?`
`03:18.09`	`ilifin`	`Daemona - what I've made is a mod that adds a count of my sword spec procs to a little plugin on fubar, it resets the count on PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED, but if sword spec procs on my initial swing, it doesn't count that in since the PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED fire right after`
`03:18.17`	`ckknight`	`I want to level, too, but yes. I really just want to focus on PvP`
`03:18.32`	`ckknight`	`my goal is to PvP with my brother`
`03:18.37`	`Amadeo`	`Will you be regularly playing with a particular person or people?`
`03:18.43`	`Amadeo`	`his main is a Warlock?`
`03:18.47`	`Daemona`	`ckknight then definitly a shadow priest`
`03:18.54`	`Daemona`	`the synergy is wtfpwn`
`03:18.55`	`ckknight`	`Amadeo: yea`
`03:19.21`	`Daemona`	`ilifin why the heck do you want to check for incombat sword spec procs if it can only happen in combat ?!`
`03:19.51`	`Amadeo`	`I do like Priests a lot, but it's a difficult (frustrating) class to play in PvP, because you are always targetted first`
`03:20.14`	`ckknight`	`I've found that, too`
`03:20.15`	`ilifin`	`Daemona - because I want it to reset every time I enter combat`
`03:20.25`	`ilifin`	`so that I can get per-fight statistics`
`03:21.01`	`ilifin`	`thus I've got PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED set to reset the count, but sword proc can proc before that happens for odd reasons -_-`
`03:21.38`	`Amadeo`	`I think your Shaman would work well with a Warlock, a Mage would be neat also, since you'd both have different types of crowd control spells...`
`03:22.05`	`Amadeo`	`Hunter does pretty well overall, two pets works well for leveling and stuff`
`03:22.27`	`Myrathi`	`Yeah. Hunter and warlock work seriously well together, pve or pvp.`
`03:22.35`	`Amadeo`	`I'd stay away from a Warrior, since a Warlock can't do much for them`
`03:24.38`	`Amadeo`	`Druids are pretty powerful right now, but I'm not sure I'd count on that lasting...plus they require lots of micromanagement`
`03:25.47`	`Amadeo`	`If you don't want to heal at all, I think a Hunter or Mage would be good`
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`03:27.00`	`Amadeo`	`If you're good at kiting and stuff, a Hunter can be very strong`
`03:30.23`	`Kemayo`	`I've really enjoyed my warlock for soloing, I must admit.`
`03:30.49`	`Kemayo`	`Though I'm normally grouped with a shadow priest. Which is just sick.`
`03:31.05`	`Andune`	`yeah lock is my fav for solo'ing, partly b/c of the non-stop action. full affl speck, i hardly ever stop killing. it's just go-go-go`
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`03:31.51`	`Andune`	`Hunters are amazingly versatile class, tho I think it's something you gotta enjoy. finding new pets, shooting from range, etc.`
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`03:32.35`	`Herio`	`waterfall isn't in /files/ right?`
`03:33.16`	`Andune`	`tho for PvP, one of my favorite things to do with my paly is to find a good lock and just follow him around.`
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`03:33.39`	`Andune`	`most pple hate locks in PvP, and the only thing worse than a lock would be a lock with a healer in plate following him around :)`
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`03:35.42`	`copystring_`	`um... is something wrong with agUF ?`
`03:35.53`	`copystring_`	`i get a lot errors suddenly`
`03:36.39`	`Andune`	`copystring_: working good for me. I just updated to the latest via WAU about an hour ago. Was working fine before that too.`
`03:37.21`	`copystring_`	`i updated and now it doesnt work anymore... maybe a config reset`
`03:38.25`	Funkeh`	`when was the last time you updated`
`03:38.29`	Funkeh`	`not including now`
`03:39.13`	`copystring_`	`works again dunno what was wrong`
`03:39.21`	`copystring_`	`i update like everyday`
`03:42.01`	`ckknight`	`Andune: you make a compelling argument for a pally...`
`03:42.28`	`ckknight`	`but I think I'll make a hunter`
`03:42.40`	`ckknight`	`Orc, Troll, or Tauren?`
`03:42.44`	`ckknight`	`I'm thinking Orc...`
`03:43.17`	`nymbia`	`yeah, hardiness is win`
`03:43.28`	`Zicon`	`I like orcs.`
`03:50.00`	`ckknight`	`though ... I could make a pally...`
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`03:50.03`	`ckknight`	`I don't know`
`03:50.06`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:50.45`	`Thrae`	`Make a Druid!`
`03:50.52`	`Thrae`	`They're all the rage now.`
`03:51.06`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`just roll a die.`
`03:51.47`	`copystring_`	`... my agUF is totally smashed i cant even modify one option and everything got resetted without me..`
`03:51.52`	`Zicon`	`I love playing a hunter, but playing it makes you so frigging lazy.`
`03:54.58`	`ckknight`	`Zicon: ?`
`03:55.27`	`Zicon`	`You can easily play a hunter with one button press per combat. :P`
`03:56.01`	`Zicon`	`My first char was a hunter, and after 60 levels of that ANYTHING was a lot of work to play.`
`03:56.15`	`WobWork`	`that's true too =)`
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`03:58.43`	`SoBe-`	`i love new content, every new boss in kara get that feeling in your stomach when your about to kill him ;x`
`04:00.45`	`kenlyric\|home`	`hunters are great... send in pet, autoshot, go do something, come back to dead mobs.`
`04:00.58`	`ilifin`	`SoBe-, in my realm we don't even dare to begin try now`
`04:01.21`	`ilifin`	`since once the clock ticks 2000 server time, it's just a matter of time before the server dies from overload of 5man instances`
`04:01.47`	`ilifin`	`7 days in a row now, server dies, rollback 1 hour, instances reset etc`
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`04:02.15`	`kenlyric\|home`	`we had that last week, but nothing so far this past weekend and this week.`
`04:03.56`	`Amadeo`	`I've had a lot of emails not being received by people when sending through Gmail lately`
`04:04.01`	`Amadeo`	`even gmail to gmail`
`04:04.16`	`Amadeo`	`not talking about the addon :)`
`04:05.42`	`SoBe-`	`i wonder if rogue loot was left out of karazhan`
`04:06.18`	`Feldia`	`it's a hint that you aren't supposed to bring rogues`
`04:06.46`	`SoBe-`	`we have 2 on our kara raid, and were top dps heh`
`04:07.04`	`kenlyric\|home`	`why would you have rogues? you only have 10 slots!`
`04:07.12`	`SoBe-`	`works out just fine`
`04:07.29`	`ilifin`	`SoBe-, one could wonder`
`04:07.34`	`Feldia`	`1 rogue in 5 mans I can understand (need lockpicking)`
`04:07.35`	`ilifin`	`atleast attumen drops nice gloves`
`04:07.38`	`Feldia`	`but lol@ rogues in raid`
`04:08.01`	`SoBe-`	`why replace 2 rogues with something else we dont have?`
`04:08.21`	`ilifin`	`why replace someone whose dps isn't limited by a pool of blue goo`
`04:08.37`	`kenlyric\|home`	`well, sure, you take rogues when you can't do any better :)`
`04:09.07`	`Feldia`	`because the people who require that pool of blue goo don't get raped by cleaves / random AE damage every 10 seconds`
`04:09.28`	`SoBe-`	`maybe you just need better healers =P`
`04:09.42`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I need blue goo. Where does blue goo come from?`
`04:09.54`	`kenlyric\|home`	`uh, rogues? heal? LOL!`
`04:10.39`	`kenlyric\|home`	`my heals say "invalid target" if I try to heal a rogue. True story!`
`04:10.40`	`Feldia`	`I never said they died, did I?`
`04:10.40`	Funkeh`	`drink a pot`
`04:10.42`	`Daemona`	`sorry to say but feral druid in lvl60 gear almost beats rogue in lvl60/70 gear in karazhan and he did offtanking :/`
`04:10.47`	`Feldia`	`indeed kenlyric\|home`
`04:10.49`	Funkeh`	`or farm me my mana pots`
`04:10.53`	Funkeh`	`biatch`
`04:11.10`	`ilifin`	`how the hell Daemona, there's not the druid, nor mage/warlock on my server that beats me in dps >_>`
`04:11.25`	Funkeh`	`im holy dps atm`
`04:11.29`	Funkeh`	`critting holy fire for 2k`
`04:11.34`	`Feldia`	`lol holy dps`
`04:11.36`	Funkeh`	`no messin kk`
`04:11.41`	`Feldia`	`my sw:d crits higher than that`
`04:11.41`	`Daemona`	`ilifin you gotta be decked in karazhan/t4/t3 loot then or have a terribly player base :/`
`04:11.47`	Funkeh`	`rofl`
`04:12.04`	`ilifin`	`Daemona, decked in some of the best 70 blues, add in a couple naxx epix`
`04:12.08`	Funkeh`	`when you can achieve 8k dps in 3-4 secs ill respect shadow`
`04:12.19`	`Feldia`	`I can do..... 4.5k damage in 1.5s`
`04:12.27`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r27509 10Yata/ (7 files): Yata - better handling of disabling on non-Shaman`
`04:12.38`	Funkeh`	`uhu..`
`04:12.39`	`Feldia`	`but really now, why bother considering a scenario that's going to happen what, once a week?`
`04:12.50`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r27510 10KingOfTheJungle/ (5 files): KingOfTheJungle - better handling of disabling on non-Hunter`
`04:12.55`	Funkeh`	`actually i get crit procs quite regularly`
`04:13.02`	Funkeh`	`1 smite 2k, proc surge, another one`
`04:13.07`	Funkeh`	`4 in a row and its np`
`04:13.14`	`Feldia`	`4 in a row`
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`04:13.16`	`Feldia`	`what's your crit rate`
`04:13.21`	`Daemona`	`a second, let me get a current profile up ;)`
`04:13.26`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I'm shadow against my will. I don't dps, as a normal course of action.`
`04:13.33`	Funkeh`	`25% holy`
`04:13.43`	`Feldia`	`25% and you expect 3 procs in a row regularly?`
`04:13.56`	Funkeh`	`i don't expect anything`
`04:13.58`	Funkeh`	`i recieve`
`04:14.21`	`nymbia`	`those are good odds...`
`04:15.01`	`nymbia`	`ive gotten double procs on the 2% metagem 3 times in the last 2 weeks`
`04:15.04`	Funkeh`	`although admitedly, they don;t all crit for 2k`
`04:15.10`	Funkeh`	`usualy 1.6-2k`
`04:15.20`	Funkeh`	`more than 2.2k wiht paladins`
`04:15.23`	`Feldia`	`as I said`
`04:15.30`	`Feldia`	`why bother bragging about something that rarely happens`
`04:15.33`	`ilifin`	`which metagem, nymbia`
`04:15.38`	Funkeh`	`bragging?`
`04:15.39`	`ilifin`	`insta spellcast?`
`04:15.40`	Funkeh`	`im discussing`
`04:15.45`	Funkeh`	`the holy tree`
`04:15.50`	`Feldia`	<Funkeh`> when you can achieve 8k dps in 3-4 secs ill respect shadow
`04:15.51`	`Feldia`	`dunno`
`04:15.53`	`Feldia`	`sounds like bragging`
`04:15.55`	`nymbia`	`ilifin: mystical skyfire`
`04:16.07`	Funkeh`	`sounds like your getting very uptight to me`
`04:16.14`	Funkeh`	`ill leave it there`
`04:16.16`	`Feldia`	`lol`
`04:16.23`	`SoBe-`	`so sick of this class vs class thing`
`04:16.26`	`SoBe-`	`lol`
`04:16.27`	`Feldia`	`sounds like someone can't handle criticism, but ok!`
`04:16.29`	`SoBe-`	`ever since bc`
`04:16.48`	`kenlyric\|home`	`heh.`
`04:17.04`	`ilifin`	`nymbia - cool gem that, not too high rate I guess?`
`04:17.10`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I think rogues actually believe we don't heal them :)`
`04:17.12`	`Feldia`	`2%`
`04:17.25`	`nymbia`	`ilifin: 2%`
`04:17.25`	Funkeh`	`we don't heal them`
`04:17.31`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I mean, they get hit by prayer of healing all the time :)`
`04:17.36`	Funkeh`	`they have to pay monthly subscription if they want heals`
`04:17.51`	`Feldia`	`occassionally I avoid heailng them if they're taking damage needlessly`
`04:18.03`	`Feldia`	`gotta teach them a lesson!`
`04:18.10`	Funkeh`	`indeed`
`04:18.13`	`Feldia`	`rogues trying to tank? lol go die`
`04:18.18`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`04:18.18`	`ilifin`	`nymbia - I mean, does it feel often?`
`04:18.24`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I mean, I joke about not healing rogues, but in truth, the only class I don't heal is paladins.`
`04:18.29`	`ilifin`	`my 5% sword proc rate feels like way more for instance`
`04:18.34`	`kenlyric\|home`	`because, dammit, they have more efficiency than I do.`
`04:18.56`	`Feldia`	`yea but they're far more boring to play`
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`04:19.06`	Funkeh`	`they have no regen so they get 5billion mana back every heal`
`04:19.27`	`nymbia`	`ilifin: every couple pulls or so, often enough to be worth it :)`
`04:19.34`	`Feldia`	`shadow priest + paladin = they heal forever`
`04:19.35`	`Feldia`	`it's pretty amazing`
`04:19.42`	`ilifin`	`nymbia - does it make any spell instant?`
`04:19.53`	`ilifin`	`i.e. finish a trash mob, PROC, "ffs, CONJURE WATER"`
`04:19.57`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Feldia... I did a run once... the paladin made me heal while he dpsed. I died a little inside.`
`04:20.02`	`Feldia`	`offensive spells only I think`
`04:20.12`	`Feldia`	`that's when I drop into shadowform`
`04:20.14`	`Feldia`	`and laugh at him`
`04:20.28`	Funkeh`	`what proc?`
`04:20.32`	`kenlyric\|home`	`yeah, but I wanted to finish the instance. So I just let him die a lot.`
`04:20.34`	`Feldia`	`the metagem`
`04:20.38`	Funkeh`	`oh`
`04:20.41`	`Feldia`	`2% chance that your next spell will be instant cast`
`04:20.46`	`nymbia`	`ilifin: i havent tried it on my 10 second teleports but other than that, yes, anything not channeled`
`04:21.04`	`ilifin`	`handy, is it a timer or does the effect stick until cast?`
`04:21.30`	Funkeh`	`every kind of proc for an instant cast likes doing it when theres nothing to hit its a blizz rule ;)`
`04:22.06`	Funkeh`	`you don't find gnome warlocks running around frantically looking for something to shoot funny?`
`04:22.37`	Funkeh`	`i still have that in the bank somewhere im sure`
`04:22.44`	Funkeh`	`ye old faithful`
`04:23.10`	`kenlyric\|home`	`one of the blessings of my account closure were that i didn't have to look at or throw away that piece of garbage.`
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`04:23.28`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`04:23.28`	`Feldia`	`bluedragon was amazing in it's day`
`04:23.30`	`kenlyric\|home`	`100g for that Ace...`
`04:23.33`	`kenlyric\|home`	`what day?`
`04:23.33`	Funkeh`	`yes it was`
`04:23.39`	`Feldia`	`when it procced off of wand hits`
`04:23.41`	`kenlyric\|home`	`in what possibly day could that piece of shit do anything?`
`04:23.43`	Funkeh`	`same with the AD trinket`
`04:23.44`	`Feldia`	`and it allowed 130% mana regen`
`04:23.46`	Funkeh`	`those were the days!`
`04:23.49`	`Feldia`	`it was absolutely amazing`
`04:24.04`	`Feldia`	`hell`
`04:24.06`	`kenlyric\|home`	`meh. As long is can proc off of buffing, it needs to diaf.`
`04:24.10`	`Feldia`	`I remember opening my mail and having that trinket proc`
`04:24.17`	Funkeh`	`hahaha`
`04:24.31`	`Feldia`	`picking flowers`
`04:24.31`	Funkeh`	`lol i remember that`
`04:24.31`	`Feldia`	`dropping into shadowform`
`04:24.31`	Funkeh`	`woot extra regen for cooking`
`04:24.33`	`Feldia`	`turning on "find herbs"`
`04:24.35`	`Feldia`	`it was amazing`
`04:24.38`	`kenlyric\|home`	`well, by the end it wouldn't even proc off co combat.`
`04:24.38`	`Feldia`	`EVERYTHING procced it`
`04:24.52`	Funkeh`	`the best thing`
`04:25.00`	Funkeh`	`it took about 5 patches to fix every bug`
`04:25.08`	Funkeh`	`1 patch they fixed tracking, next cooking`
`04:25.11`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I wore it through two entire MC runs. It procced twice on fort, once on shadow, and once on inner fire.`
`04:25.43`	`kenlyric\|home`	`then I got mar'li's eye and threw it in the bank, hoping one day there would be a use for it.`
`04:25.50`	Funkeh`	`first ragnaros atempt fo me it rocked`
`04:26.31`	`Andune`	`ckknight: was afk a bit. yeah only downside to a paly is they suck to level. takes forever, their dps blows..`
`04:26.39`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`04:26.43`	`Feldia`	`heh, I was well beyond rag when I got it`
`04:26.45`	`Andune`	`ckknight: and if you play one, you'd better like to heal :)`
`04:26.52`	`ckknight`	`oh, I love healing`
`04:26.56`	`ckknight`	`no doubt about that`
`04:27.07`	`kenlyric\|home`	`my first blue in TBC was a five of beasts on a ramparts run.`
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`04:27.27`	`Andune`	`ckknight: I've played druid,priest,paly all up to 60, and paly is the most fun I have playing healer`
`04:27.28`	`kenlyric\|home`	`if you really love to heal, play a healing class :)`
`04:27.43`	`Andune`	`ckknight: can't comment on shammy, but have one in the works. will be a while tho :)`
`04:27.48`	`Tain`	`I hate being able to heal/buff/do anything for anyone.`
`04:27.53`	`Tain`	`So I play a Rogue.`
`04:27.57`	`kenlyric\|home`	`it certainly is the easiest "healing" class to play.. they never get blamed for shit.`
`04:28.43`	`Andune`	`most palys suck at healing. well most palys, for some reason, suck at everything. To play a paly good takes some work.`
`04:28.59`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Andune: I think it's the bitterness over the struggle they had to level.`
`04:29.04`	`Andune`	`popping BoP on casters to save 'em, using sacrifice to bleed of dmg at the right time, keeping all the right buffs up.`
`04:29.09`	`kenlyric\|home`	`And the fact that everyone is so mercilessly cruel to them :)`
`04:29.11`	`Tain`	`I'd never want to play a Priest. They really do take an unfair amount of blame.`
`04:29.15`	`Andune`	`lol`
`04:29.27`	`art3mis`	`hehe not if yre a jerk`
`04:29.49`	`art3mis`	`most priest response to blame is "you better have good ashoes to run back when you die"`
`04:29.58`	`kenlyric\|home`	`to be honest, I've never been blamed for anything on instance run, even though it's been my fault.`
`04:30.10`	`fanatic`	`im a warlock, and i just show a paper flip between my shadowbolt shortcut key on bossfights then i go and make me some coffe`
`04:30.13`	`fanatic`	`i love being a lock`
`04:30.14`	`kenlyric\|home`	`errr, even when it's been my fault`
`04:30.15`	`art3mis`	`or "its more efficient to res you han heal you"`
`04:30.20`	`Tain`	`Well no one heals the Rogues anyway.`
`04:30.24`	`Andune`	`tho I must say, the new Ret talents make paly dps "livable". I'm leveling my lock to 70 side by side my paly, and it's still laughable compared to lock, but it's better than trying to level as full holy spec..`
`04:30.37`	`WobWork`	`art3mis: <3`
`04:30.47`	`kenlyric\|home`	`"I heal rogues" was actually my guild note in my second guild.`
`04:30.51`	`WobWork`	`hehe`
`04:30.53`	`art3mis`	`hahahahhaha`
`04:31.00`	`art3mis`	`sadist`
`04:31.04`	`Tain`	`hah nice`
`04:31.13`	`art3mis`	`healig rogues is only good if they're not combat rogues`
`04:31.14`	`Zicon`	`art3mis: I usually start with "I don't heal pets, period" and escalate to "play your �&�%&� class and shut up". I'll keep the shoe comment in mind, though...`
`04:31.36`	`Tain`	`I go through a lot of bandages on raids.`
`04:31.39`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I should say, I heal rogues who deserve it and don't invite unnecessary pain.`
`04:31.39`	`art3mis`	`hhe ive bee a priest for far to long to care if i wipe becuase i wasnt healing`
`04:31.57`	`art3mis`	`if i eed to heal constantly someoen isnlt playing thier class right ;p`
`04:32.15`	`kenlyric\|home`	`About the only stupid thing I do is not change targets and let someone die. I blame mods for that one :)`
`04:32.20`	`WobWork`	`or we're underleveled =P`
`04:32.20`	`fanatic`	`i keep myself up with siphon life`
`04:32.24`	`Tain`	`I only take AE damage. But it adds up.`
`04:32.40`	`art3mis`	`laugh if you wipe blame the hunter`
`04:32.46`	`WobWork`	`I do =P`
`04:32.49`	`art3mis`	`thats a given ;P`
`04:32.51`	`WobWork`	`Most of the time it's true =P`
`04:32.52`	`Andune`	`always works for me.`
`04:33.07`	`fanatic`	`rogues sux tbh, replace em with hunters/mages`
`04:33.07`	`art3mis`	`hehe in beta thers a quest where you save a soul and hes a hunter`
`04:33.19`	`art3mis`	`the bastard pulled the boss while i was drinking`
`04:33.24`	`kenlyric\|home`	`hey, preists have a shadowfiend which is like a wild hunter pet, so we can ruin pulls too :)`
`04:33.37`	`art3mis`	`and the only thing i could hink of was "wow they made the hunter mob ai REALLY accurate`
`04:33.54`	`kenlyric\|home`	`*Shadowfiend doesn't like it's current target and says "ooh, a sheep"!`
`04:34.07`	`art3mis`	`heh yeah`
`04:34.31`	`kenlyric\|home`	`even Thrall is smart enough to get off someone when they are sheeped.`
`04:34.39`	`kenlyric\|home`	`and he's an orc.`
`04:35.12`	`nymbia`	`haha`
`04:35.47`	`nymbia`	`we had a shadowfiend breaking traps on moroes earlier`
`04:35.51`	`nymbia`	`good times`
`04:36.41`	`art3mis`	`he goes for the most helpless ;P{`
`04:36.45`	`kenlyric\|home`	`yeah, I learned the lesson the hard way in shadow lab. Worked out ok, but it was dicey. At least it doesn't last long.`
`04:36.52`	`kenlyric\|home`	`he should go for my target.`
`04:37.42`	`Daemona`	`moroes dropped mongoose today for a guild on my server`
`04:38.11`	`Daemona`	`and the person who got it logged of cause he was hammered by whispers... havent seen him the whole evening`
`04:38.37`	`nymbia`	`we got mongoose`
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`04:38.41`	`chutwig`	`what do you even get void crystals from`
`04:38.45`	`chutwig`	`dusting BC epics?`
`04:38.46`	`kenlyric\|home`	`mongoose?`
`04:38.49`	`nymbia`	`today ;)`
`04:38.50`	`Daemona`	`karazhan loot disenchant`
`04:38.58`	`chutwig`	`mongoose is +120 agl and slight +haste`
`04:39.04`	`kenlyric\|home`	`a potion?`
`04:39.09`	`chutwig`	`no, an enchant`
`04:39.12`	`kenlyric\|home`	`ah.`
`04:39.17`	`chutwig`	`countdown to that being restricted to 2h weapons in 3-2-1`
`04:39.29`	`Daemona`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22559#M0z`
`04:39.37`	`kenlyric\|home`	`that would be insane.`
`04:39.48`	`chutwig`	`oh`
`04:39.51`	`chutwig`	`occasionally, not permanently`
`04:39.56`	`kenlyric\|home`	`what use would that be on a 2h?`
`04:39.57`	`chutwig`	`so it's like crusader for agility`
`04:40.07`	`chutwig`	`i didn't see the occasionally`
`04:40.14`	`Daemona`	`i will make sure to get it enchanted to at least my latro's ....`
`04:40.29`	`Daemona`	`... cause netherspite is a bitch about loots`
`04:40.57`	`SoBe-`	`well chutwig your just bad`
`04:41.06`	`chutwig`	`the word is "you're"`
`04:41.09`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I like spellsurge :)`
`04:41.16`	`SoBe-`	`you need to learn to play a paladin chutwig`
`04:41.18`	`SoBe-`	`srs`
`04:41.20`	`kenlyric\|home`	`it's the crusader enchant for casters.`
`04:41.24`	`SoBe-`	`pelennor is bad`
`04:41.31`	`ilifin`	`anyone know which event windfury totem is for non-shamans?`
`04:41.36`	`chutwig`	`yes, yes, you know who i am`
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`04:42.36`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r27511 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - do proper pcalling on the .get functions`
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`04:51.09`	`deltron`	`~seen mjc`
`04:51.21`	`purl`	`mjc is currently on #wowace (3h 57m 32s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 3h 54m 46s, last said: 'stuck at authenticating = lame'.`
`04:51.21`	`mjc`	`sup`
`04:51.23`	`deltron`	`oh heh`
`04:51.35`	`mjc`	`tanking`
`04:51.35`	`deltron`	`mjc: noob, I upgraded your forum rights`
`04:51.54`	`mjc`	`?`
`04:52.29`	`deltron`	`you got full rights to sanc now, you can see the stuff you should have been`
`04:52.35`	`deltron`	`you were set to special for some reason, I probably never upgraded you`
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`04:58.41`	`tjs`	`is there a function some place to set those marks on targets?`
`04:58.54`	`tjs`	`looked in the group and raid functions and can't see anything`
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`05:01.36`	`Prophy`	`is there an .lua file editor? free`
`05:01.50`	`tjs`	`yes`
`05:01.52`	`tjs`	`vim`
`05:01.56`	`tjs`	`check out vim.org`
`05:02.03`	`tjs`	`:D`
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`05:02.16`	`Daemona`	`ultraedit? ^^`
`05:02.49`	`Prophy`	`ultraedit ain't free =(`
`05:03.32`	`Daemona`	`thats life, anything REAL good youhave to pay for... women, chocolate.....`
`05:03.47`	`tjs`	`vim is -real- good`
`05:03.51`	`tjs`	`and its free`
`05:03.57`	`Prophy`	`yah vim`
`05:03.58`	`deltron`	`I love vim`
`05:04.05`	`Prophy`	`daemona not true`
`05:04.07`	`deltron`	`I use scite on windows`
`05:04.11`	`Prophy`	`the best things in life is free`
`05:04.27`	`ckknight`	`like murder`
`05:04.32`	Funkeh`	`condoms`
`05:04.34`	`ckknight`	`no, wait, the axe'd cost money.`
`05:04.37`	`deltron`	`not hookers :(`
`05:05.35`	`deltron`	`I suppose I should set up some kinda development environment on this box since I want to learn lua`
`05:06.17`	Funkeh`	`well anyway`
`05:06.19`	Funkeh`	`nn folks!`
`05:06.30`	`WobWork`	`deltron: easy enough =) Vim, the lua5.1 executable and you're done =)`
`05:06.48`	`deltron`	`QQ`
`05:08.02`	`tjs`	`so I'm a bit of a wow addon noob`
`05:08.02`	`WobWork`	`why QQ?`
`05:08.18`	`tjs`	`these methods listed in the API, can I call them in macros? are they just global?`
`05:08.37`	`Prophy`	`is there a ACE2 mod that is trinketmenu equiv??`
`05:09.08`	`WobWork`	`You can use /script functionCall(frog)`
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`05:10.32`	`mjc`	`emacs ftw`
`05:10.55`	`tjs`	`WobWork: cool`
`05:12.11`	`CIA-17`	`03mok * r27513 10item2phpBB/legacy_code.lua:`
`05:12.11`	`CIA-17`	`item2phpBB:`
`05:12.12`	`CIA-17`	`- now supports the 2 additional banks-bags`
`05:12.20`	`deltron`	`WobWork: i dunno, i'm confused`
`05:12.28`	`deltron`	`mjc: vi!`
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`05:14.10`	`ckknight`	`Prophy: stop saying ACE`
`05:14.25`	`tjs`	`so my guild uses target icons for various purposes, skull is tank target, orange is to be burnt down, moon is sheep etc.. I wanted to make some simple keystrokes that would place an icon on a mouseover-ed mob`
`05:15.01`	`tjs`	`can you set keybindings that only work while there is a targeted mob?`
`05:15.57`	`kenlyric\|home`	`tjs, that's all fine, but blue square is clearly the sheep icon :)`
`05:16.11`	`Myrathi`	`Woot! We have .blp thumbnails!`
`05:16.17`	`kenlyric\|home`	`mages make Ice, and Ice cubes :)`
`05:16.24`	`Myrathi`	`All they show is a smiley-face, for now.. but they work!`
`05:16.29`	`tjs`	`also, we have a few symbols for 'sleep/sheep/disable', ie: moon, star etc. depending on how many need to be taken care of, the addon would need to know how many 'sleep' icons are in use so it could choose the next one.`
`05:16.42`	`tjs`	`kenlyric\|home: hehe`
`05:17.03`	`tjs`	`from looking at the api there is a function to get the target given a unit`
`05:17.35`	`tjs`	`to figure out how many units are already marked Id have to iterate all the units in the area looking for marks?`
`05:18.44`	`tjs`	`can you keep a reference to a unit ?`
`05:18.59`	`tjs`	`sorry like I said this will be my first addon`
`05:19.12`	`Myrathi`	`Only in the form of a unitID. The most obvious one being 'focus'.`
`05:19.41`	`tjs`	`so how could I determine how many marks are already placed?`
`05:20.11`	`Myrathi`	`I'm not sure you could - unless they're all targetted by at least one person in the raid.`
`05:20.21`	`tjs`	`ah :/`
`05:20.23`	`Myrathi`	`In which case you'd be iterating targettarget of each raid member.`
`05:20.29`	`Myrathi`	`Sloooooooow.`
`05:20.35`	`tjs`	`yeh`
`05:20.43`	`WobWork`	`tjs`
`05:20.47`	`WobWork`	`have a look at Paintball`
`05:20.52`	`tjs`	`?`
`05:20.53`	`WobWork`	`it's a bit outdated, but could give you ideas`
`05:20.58`	`tjs`	`ty`
`05:21.00`	`WobWork`	`It's an addon I wrote pre2.0`
`05:21.13`	`WobWork`	`allowed you to mouseover and masstarget raidicons`
`05:21.23`	`tjs`	`oh`
`05:21.24`	`WobWork`	`either based on hostility, or a filter`
`05:21.55`	`WobWork`	`Although, you -can- hotkey the specific raidicons`
`05:22.24`	`Myrathi`	`The only way you'd really be able to keep a log of marked targets is by, perhaps, having everyone in the raid use your addon and it communicate via the addon channel when someone has a target with a mark and when it dies. But that gets complex. :p`
`05:22.31`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I wish they'd fix Terokkar forest map, so annoying seeing auchidon area randomly discover/undiscover`
`05:23.06`	`Myrathi`	`Garoun: Similar to the Darkshire/Elwynn zonespam when you fly from Lakeshire to Westfall?`
`05:23.24`	`SoBe-`	`is that that little dragon noise and icon that pops up over your head?`
`05:23.50`	`Myrathi`	`SoBe-: huh?`
`05:24.00`	`WobWork`	`?`
`05:24.08`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Myrathi: well, it used to not be so annoying, except now you change channels every time you change zones.`
`05:24.34`	`kenlyric\|home`	`flying into shattrath from any direction is sooo annoying.`
`05:24.45`	`WobWork`	`I miss being able to talk in trade while inflight`
`05:24.51`	`WobWork`	`especially the long flights`
`05:24.53`	`Myrathi`	`Ahh. The 'grunt' is a new random taxi burp.`
`05:25.01`	`kenlyric\|home`	`especially since wow turns on your chat channels every time you login.`
`05:25.15`	`Myrathi`	`kenlyric\|home: There's a mod that fixes that, somewhere.`
`05:25.40`	`Myrathi`	`As for the icon that pops up over your head.. uuummm... do you mean the ZoneText line?`
`05:25.47`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I like the new audio in questfu... it makes me laugh every time.`
`05:26.01`	`Myrathi`	`Job done!`
`05:26.34`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Garoun\|Loupana: I think was talking about the fact that the area around auchidon randomly shows as discovered and then not discovered.`
`05:26.43`	`kenlyric\|home`	`which is also annoying.`
`05:26.45`	`WobWork`	`do you get explore xp? =)`
`05:26.59`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Well, I did back when I got xp for that.`
`05:27.08`	`WobWork`	`run around in circles to level =P`
`05:27.20`	`kenlyric\|home`	`now every time I look at that map, there are different areas which are green (my undiscovered color)`
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`05:27.31`	`chutwig`	`i almost hate to ask but is the bug where opening cartographer clears the battle map a known issue?`
`05:27.31`	`kenlyric\|home`	`no, you don't get xp every time`
`05:27.37`	`WobWork`	`That's why I use Cart's foglight thingie`
`05:27.38`	`kenlyric\|home`	`it just doesn't show up as explored on the map.`
`05:27.39`	`Myrathi`	`Sure that's not a map bug? Never heard of anyone having that problem, before.`
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`05:27.53`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Wobwork, right, but i still want it to be discovered. I hate having green areas on my map.`
`05:28.04`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Myrathi: it might be a cart bug.`
`05:28.05`	`ckknight`	`chutwig: what bug is this?`
`05:28.06`	`WobWork`	`oh man =\`
`05:28.14`	`WobWork`	`next half hour pass alraedy =(`
`05:28.20`	`WobWork`	`I want my long weekend to begin =P`
`05:28.24`	`chutwig`	`ckknight: whenever i open the world map my little battle map in pvp zones gets cleared as though nothing were explored`
`05:28.29`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`05:28.42`	`ckknight`	`Cartographer doesn't touch the battle map for that stuff`
`05:29.41`	`Myrathi`	`ken was talking about 'discovery flipping' areas, in Terokkar.`
`05:29.56`	`Myrathi`	`He'll move around and areas will flip discovered/undiscovered.`
`05:30.06`	`Myrathi`	`Never heard of that happening, before.`
`05:30.13`	`tjs`	`WobWork: you in AU?`
`05:32.04`	`tjs`	`is there a gatherer->cartographer db export script any place?`
`05:32.40`	`Myrathi`	`Cartographer_Import`
`05:32.45`	`Myrathi`	`I think it's called.`
`05:33.13`	`tjs`	`cool`
`05:33.15`	`tjs`	`ty`
`05:33.29`	`Myrathi`	`Install it, make sure gatherer's enabled, also make sure you have herbalism/mining cart modules installed and active.. then log in and it should auto-import.`
`05:33.54`	`Myrathi`	`In theory. I've never actually tried it, since I dumped gatherer and have all but refilled by node lists anyway :)`
`05:34.46`	`Myrathi`	`Right-o. Time to go kill stuff.`
`05:36.22`	`tjs`	`is there a cartographer bundle?`
`05:37.53`	`WobWork`	`tjs: Aye, Sydney`
`05:38.21`	`tjs`	`WobWork: figured, I'm hanging out for half an hours time also :)`
`05:38.45`	`WobWork`	`hehe =)`
`05:39.47`	`zerokarmaleft`	`i'm going through the tutorial on the wiki...it's bugging out on RegisterEvent. expecting 2 arguments`
`05:40.06`	`WobWork`	`what are you usign as arguements?`
`05:40.19`	`zerokarmaleft`	`self:RegisterEvent("ZONE_CHANGED")`
`05:41.07`	`zerokarmaleft`	`expects arg #2 to be a string`
`05:41.24`	`WobWork`	`You've set AceEvent-2.0 in the addon line?`
`05:41.33`	`zerokarmaleft`	`yea`
`05:42.02`	`WobWork`	`odd, can you pastey the code?`
`05:43.04`	`zerokarmaleft`	`http://rafb.net/p/fOgcOT94.html`
`05:43.15`	`zerokarmaleft`	`is there a pastebin with lua highlighting?`
`05:43.28`	`WobWork`	`ace.pastey.net`
`05:43.42`	`WobWork`	`ah`
`05:43.50`	`WobWork`	`You want self:RegisterEvent(`
`05:43.56`	`WobWork`	`the ':' is needde`
`05:44.05`	`WobWork`	`it puts 'self' in as the first arguemtn`
`05:44.10`	`zerokarmaleft`	`oops`
`05:44.22`	`WobWork`	`you -could- use the current syntax, but you'd need self.RegisterEvent(self, "ZONE_CHANGED")`
`05:44.40`	`WobWork`	`Same with your print statement =)`
`05:45.03`	`zerokarmaleft`	`silly python-ish syntax :)`
`05:45.08`	`zerokarmaleft`	`cool thanks`
`05:45.20`	`tjs`	`python ftw`
`05:45.20`	`WobWork`	`I can't get used to the space requirements for python =)`
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`05:45.30`	`tjs`	`python is my primary language`
`05:45.31`	`WobWork`	`not after so many years of bracketed stuff`
`05:45.45`	`zerokarmaleft`	`mine's ruby`
`05:46.16`	`tjs`	`you mine rubys ? thats fairly lucrative since BC I hear`
`05:46.19`	`WobWork`	`although I appear to be doing some nifty things with Actionscript nowadays =P`
`05:47.09`	`Thrae`	`I speak Python too.`
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`05:47.12`	`Thrae`	`HSSSSSSS`
`05:47.15`	`Thrae`	`ESSSSS HSSSS`
`05:47.16`	`WobWork`	`parseltounge?`
`05:47.31`	`WobWork`	`. o O ("mutherfucker, do you speak it?!")`
`05:48.28`	`WobWork`	`http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/50457975/867366`
`05:49.04`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`Myrathi, I was referring to the actual map texture showing and hiding randomly :)`
`05:49.09`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`off to bed for me`
`05:50.31`	`zerokarmaleft`	`WobWork: i also dabble in C#, and python as well`
`05:50.48`	`tjs`	`is there an ace mod that does simmilar things to dart?`
`05:51.35`	`tjs`	`ie: allow you to place art on the UI and scale/alpha change them?`
`05:55.29`	`zerokarmaleft`	`anybody use luaunit to do TDD for their addons?`
`05:55.54`	`WobWork`	`xart?`
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`06:01.25`	`tjs`	`WobWork: cheers`
`06:01.31`	`tjs`	`WobWork: home time :)`
`06:01.33`	`tjs`	`later all`
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`06:09.55`	`ckknight`	`...so`
`06:10.06`	`ckknight`	`anyone interested in Joana's leveling guide?`
`06:10.15`	`CIA-17`	`03kodewulf * r27514 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua:`
`06:10.15`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`06:10.15`	`CIA-17`	`- Trainer : Added deDE (Farook)`
`06:10.17`	`ckknight`	`the new one`
`06:10.59`	`CIA-17`	`03eternally777 * r27515 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ShadeOfAran.lua:`
`06:10.59`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Karazhan: ShadeOfAran:`
`06:10.59`	`CIA-17`	`* Elemental Spawn warning now triggered by spell cast.`
`06:10.59`	`CIA-17`	`* Added timers for his spells.`
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`06:11.45`	`oxman`	`ckknight for 60 to 70 ?`
`06:11.52`	`ckknight`	`and BE 1-25`
`06:12.04`	`oxman`	`Hm ok, i already have it :)`
`06:12.39`	`ckknight`	`you buy it or does it linger the internets?`
`06:12.59`	`oxman`	`Its a gift of a friend`
`06:13.09`	`ckknight`	`alright`
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`06:14.32`	`Benumbed`	`using table sort (a, b) how do I sort by that then another thing? like sort by level then name`
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`06:15.25`	`ckknight`	`that's what the b is.`
`06:15.42`	`ckknight`	`oxman: I'm not fond how it's all encrypted in javascript`
`06:16.03`	`ckknight`	`but firefox's web developer extension and tidy cleared up that little detail`
`06:16.11`	`oxman`	`The .html is generated from a doc from office`
`06:16.15`	`oxman`	`so it's very very dirty ^^`
`06:16.58`	`ckknight`	`alright`
`06:17.03`	`ckknight`	`oxman: tidy got most of it`
`06:17.25`	`ckknight`	`and I removed all the unique tokens like "var security"`
`06:17.31`	`Benumbed`	`ckknight, I get cannot compare string with number`
`06:17.41`	`ckknight`	`Benumbed: pastey`
`06:18.11`	`Andune`	`~seen sylvanaar`
`06:18.33`	`purl`	`sylvanaar is currently on #wowace (8h 15m 13s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 3h 24m 39s, last said: 'awrite im going to play wow'.`
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`06:19.03`	`Andune`	`sylvanaar: ping`
`06:19.56`	`Benumbed`	`http://www.pastey.net/6199`
`06:20.20`	`ckknight`	`Benumbed: you're comparing level to name. grats.`
`06:20.49`	`Benumbed`	`it was level level`
`06:20.54`	`Benumbed`	`til you said that was what b was for =x`
`06:21.05`	`Benumbed`	`want to compare that then name`
`06:21.11`	`ckknight`	`table.sort(a, b)`
`06:21.14`	`ckknight`	`that's what you put`
`06:21.17`	`ckknight`	`where a is a table`
`06:21.19`	`ckknight`	`and b is a function`
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`06:22.12`	`ckknight`	`local function mysort(a, b) if a.level == b.level then return a.name < b.name else return a.level < b.level end end`
`06:22.33`	`Phreekystylze`	`anyone have a fix for FruityLoots? as to why it is not placing item under cursor`
`06:23.19`	`Andune`	`phreekystyleze: doesn't lute do the same thing? I dunno really about either, I just use XLoot.`
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`06:24.05`	`Phreekystylze`	`does loot place the item in loot box under cursor?`
`06:24.58`	`neenee`	`Lute does, yup`
`06:25.01`	`Andune`	`phreekystylze: never played with it myself, but I looked at it once wondering what it did, and that's what I seem to recall. Give it a try.`
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`06:27.19`	`renchap`	`who maintains closetgnome_mount ?`
`06:27.44`	`Andune`	`22:27 [wowace] kenshin> grep Author ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.toc`
`06:27.44`	`Andune`	`## Author: Rabbit`
`06:28.28`	`renchap`	`hum, thx ^^`
`06:29.19`	`renchap`	`~seen vhaar`
`06:29.47`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'vhaar', renchap`
`06:29.47`	`renchap`	`~seen vhaarr`
`06:29.49`	`purl`	`vhaarr is currently on #wowace (2d 13h 5m 32s). Has said a total of 190 messages. Is idling for 5h 36m 25s, last said: 'Seriously.'.`
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`06:35.08`	`WobWork`	`Seriously`
`06:37.10`	`Benumbed`	`ckknight, thanks`
`06:39.25`	`Benumbed`	`hmm just got a weird wow crash, tried to read my dvd drive for some svfile`
`06:53.49`	`CIA-17`	`03wmrojer * r27516 10CharacterInfoStorage/ (CharacterInfoStorage.lua CharacterInfoStorage.toc): CharacterInfoStorage: Fix for itemstrings with negative enchantid. Updated toc`
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`06:56.44`	`CIA-17`	`03mok * r27517 10GemList/ (GemList.lua localization.lua):`
`06:56.44`	`CIA-17`	`GemList:`
`06:56.44`	`CIA-17`	`- itemlinks now work cross-language`
`06:56.45`	`CIA-17`	`- added rarity to description to allow searching for i.e. just blues`
`06:56.45`	`CIA-17`	`- added localized "all" to description to allow sending of all gems`
`06:56.45`	`CIA-17`	`- help text is now spamlocked, too`
`06:56.47`	`CIA-17`	`- removed unused localization strings`
`06:58.55`	`CIA-17`	`03wmrojer * r27518 10CharacterInfo/ (CharacterInfo.lua CharacterInfo.toc): CharacterInfo: Updated toc`
`07:01.24`	`WobWork`	`omg`
`07:01.26`	`WobWork`	`home time`
`07:01.27`	`WobWork`	`finally`
`07:01.28`	`WobWork`	`bleh`
`07:01.33`	`WobWork`	`happy long weekend everyone`
`07:01.36`	`WobWork`	`(who's getting one)`
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`07:07.00`	`CIA-17`	`03wmrojer * r27519 10FuBar_GarbageFu/ (GarbageFu.lua GarbageFu_Type.lua):`
`07:07.00`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_GarbageFu :`
`07:07.00`	`CIA-17`	`- Fix for itemstrings with negative enchantid`
`07:07.00`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed a string.gfind -> string.gmatch`
`07:07.00`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed some beta test code`
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`07:14.54`	`tlund`	`wmrojer: isnt FuBar_GarbageFu supposed to learn item prices for new items when you visit the vendor?`
`07:15.19`	`tlund`	`~seen wmrojer`
`07:16.07`	`purl`	`tlund: i haven't seen 'wmrojer'`
`07:16.08`	`nadas`	`~seen Saroz`
`07:16.45`	`purl`	`saroz is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 131 messages. Is idling for 12h 37m 42s, last said: 'ftw'.`
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`07:31.07`	`Kemayo`	`tlund: Nope. It relies on other addons to provide price data.`
`07:38.42`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r27520 10Prat/modules/ (ChatLangButton.lua Filtering.lua PlayerNames.lua): Prat: Updated locales koKR`
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`07:55.02`	`Silviu-`	`[2007/02/08 09:53:36-281-x1]: Babble-Trainer-2.2\Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua:111: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 24) near '='`
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`08:13.56`	`CIA-17`	`03wmrojer * r27521 10FuBar_RecZone/ (5 files):`
`08:13.56`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_RecZone :`
`08:13.56`	`CIA-17`	`- Added Orb of Translocation between Undercity and Silvermoon City.`
`08:15.40`	`ckknight`	`not sure why he doesn't just use Tourist...`
`08:16.09`	`CIA-17`	`03wmrojer * r27522 10TradeskillInfo/ (TradeskillData.lua TradeskillInfo.lua TradeskillInfo.toc):`
`08:16.09`	`CIA-17`	`TradeskillInfo :`
`08:16.09`	`CIA-17`	`- Added Burning Crusade recipes.`
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`08:17.43`	`CIA-17`	`03wmrojer * r27523 10TradeskillInfoUI/ (4 files):`
`08:17.43`	`CIA-17`	`TradeskillInfoUI :`
`08:17.43`	`CIA-17`	`- Added Jewelcrafting.`
`08:17.43`	`CIA-17`	`- New search algorithm`
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`08:24.20`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo: QuestFu isn't doing the progress tracking properly, I'm doing The Dead Scar (newbie BE quest) and it's not picking up`
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`08:39.36`	`Kemayo`	`ckknight: I will look into it. (I'm not at a computer set up for SVN at the moment.)`
`08:40.00`	`Kemayo`	`It hasn't been terribly tested. I tend to just leave blizz's auto-tracking enabled.`
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`08:45.25`	`mitch0`	`hi`
`08:45.34`	`Industrial`	`lo`
`08:45.35`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo: yea, I hadn't enabled Blizz's auto-tracking`
`08:45.44`	`mitch0`	`does anyone know of an event that fires after PLAYER_ALIVE?`
`08:46.31`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r27524 10cgProfiler/ (4 files in 3 dirs):`
`08:46.31`	`CIA-17`	`cgProfiler -`
`08:46.31`	`CIA-17`	`-Fixes and data updates`
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`08:46.52`	`mitch0`	`according to wowwiki, when PLAYER_ALIVE fires, all should be well, but it seems that the tooltips are not yet updated with regards to talents (I'm checking spell ranges)`
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`08:51.50`	`mitch0`	`and another question: is the wowace svn repository open for addons that don't (yet) use any ace libs? :)`
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`08:53.45`	`Industrial`	`yes`
`08:53.59`	`Industrial`	`you dont have to`
`08:54.08`	`mitch0`	`and how does one apply for access?`
`08:54.23`	`ckknight`	`check the wiki, there's SVN Rules and such`
`08:54.31`	`mitch0`	`ok, thanks`
`08:54.54`	`mitch0`	`I'll check in my stuff then, maybe someone can improve it and such`
`08:55.10`	`Industrial`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules`
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`09:00.18`	`ckknight`	`btw, Cartographer_Quests = pimp`
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`09:01.14`	`[Wobin]`	`keeps track of your ho's?`
`09:04.19`	`Industrial`	`lmao`
`09:07.29`	`ckknight`	`so there's a pally named Bubblehearth`
`09:07.37`	`ckknight`	`and I accidentally ninjad a quest item`
`09:08.01`	`ckknight`	`and he was like "hey dude, your not cool"`
`09:08.13`	`ckknight`	`and I was like "I don't have to take that from someone named Bubblehearth"`
`09:08.27`	`mitch0`	`chk: can cartographer import MapNotes data?`
`09:08.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`cartographer_quests is nice, but it messes up on "go talk to this guy somewhere else to complete this quest" quest`
`09:08.51`	`ckknight`	`mitch0: no, but you're free to write an importer`
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`09:09.20`	`mitch0`	`chk: nah, MapNotes is such a mess, I'm afraid to touch it :)`
`09:09.27`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`(or rather, any quest where the completion location is not the same as the start location)`
`09:09.40`	`mitch0`	`I'm just crossing my fingers that it'll keep working...`
`09:09.53`	`mitch0`	`I once tried to do some stuff with it, but the code is a mess`
`09:09.58`	`Dhraga`	`Lo all`
`09:10.23`	`ckknight`	`okay, and I ninjad again on purpose`
`09:10.29`	`ckknight`	`and he was like "thanks again dick"`
`09:10.34`	`ckknight`	`so I was like "improper language"`
`09:10.35`	`abbat_w`	`btw`
`09:10.45`	`abbat_w`	`maybe i miss some options or feature`
`09:11.02`	`abbat_w`	`but can cartographer_mining shows node icons on minimap?`
`09:11.36`	`abbat_w`	`like gatherer do (nodes which was mined before shows at minimap with different color)`
`09:11.51`	`ckknight`	`yes`
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`09:12.08`	`abbat_w`	`ah, then i miss options. thanks ckk ;)`
`09:14.23`	`nee\|work`	`How can you ninja a quest item?`
`09:14.33`	`Dhraga`	`Anyone know how to prevent a bliz combat sound from fireing ? (the Fizzle sounds)`
`09:15.01`	`Dhraga`	`I have looked every where I can think of but can't seeme to find info on it.`
`09:15.08`	`nee\|work`	`fizzle?`
`09:15.09`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo: another feature request: auto-untrack on completion`
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`09:15.17`	`Tricksta_`	`Hey Hey`
`09:15.23`	`Dhraga`	`Aye, spell & trinket fizzle sounds`
`09:15.25`	`ckknight`	`nee\|work: box to pick up`
`09:15.30`	`Tricksta_`	`Ckk`
`09:15.41`	`Tricksta_`	`Thanks for such an aweesome addon`
`09:15.45`	`Tricksta_`	`Carto owns`
`09:15.46`	`nee\|work`	`ckknight: Ah okay, one of those near the ogres in Zangramarsh or Nagrand?`
`09:15.54`	`ckknight`	`BE starting land`
`09:15.57`	`Kemayo`	`ckknight: I can do tat.`
`09:16.01`	`Kemayo`	`s/tat/that/`
`09:16.05`	`ckknight`	`Tricksta_: you're welcome`
`09:16.15`	`ckknight`	`can you do tats, too?`
`09:16.26`	`ckknight`	`I know I want to get all tatted up`
`09:16.27`	`Gngsk`	`tit for tat?`
`09:16.31`	`ckknight`	`and all fatted up`
`09:16.35`	`ckknight`	`porkin' fat chicks`
`09:16.42`	`Tricksta_`	`Problem is that my MIBS is funking really high and well was wondering if there is any tools to look at addon memory usage that are worth a dang?`
`09:17.02`	`Dhraga`	`Tricksta_ Warmup`
`09:17.14`	`Tricksta_`	`Also I un-installed Carto Vendors on WAU and it is not avail to add back in`
`09:17.21`	`Tricksta_`	`thanks Dhr`
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`09:17.43`	`Dhraga`	`Tick, ymw`
`09:17.44`	`Tricksta_`	`DO I need to do a clean install of carto and ignore these silly extras?`
`09:18.13`	`nee\|work`	`ckknight: ok`
`09:18.14`	`Tricksta_`	`were vendors, quest npcs and all that intergrated into your latest package?`
`09:18.22`	`ckknight`	`Tricksta_: no, actually Kodewulf had a hissy fit`
`09:18.31`	`Tricksta_`	`oh?`
`09:18.33`	`nee\|work`	`ckknight: Not really ninja-ing though, it's free for all in that case I think, unless you're grouped with him`
`09:18.51`	`ckknight`	`nee\|work: no grouping, he was just right near it fighting something`
`09:18.59`	`ckknight`	`so I fell down on top of it and nabbed`
`09:19.02`	`nee\|work`	`oki`
`09:19.10`	`Tricksta_`	`Think I am gonna un-install all carto stuff and download your latest build and go from there`
`09:19.32`	`nee\|work`	`Ah well, he should have been quicker, but I understand his annoyance`
`09:19.55`	`Tricksta_`	`and for funks sake what happened to VBagnon? No diss on the Baggins addon but it is a memory hog`
`09:20.30`	`Tricksta_`	`Vbagnon was an awesome addon that suddenly dissaperead`
`09:20.32`	`ckknight`	`nee\|work: his name's Bubblehearth, I don't feel bad.`
`09:20.33`	`Nargiddley`	`baggins shouldnt be using much memory after the initial scan`
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`09:21.15`	`Tricksta_`	`and any suggestions on a good mail proggie that can open all mail items at once and mass mail like CT,???`
`09:21.15`	`nee\|work`	`;)`
`09:21.25`	`nee\|work`	`Names like that have no place in RPG games`
`09:21.25`	`Tricksta_`	`so confused`
`09:21.33`	`nee\|work`	`hm.. Role Playing Game games..`
`09:21.41`	`nee\|work`	`RPG's then`
`09:21.51`	`Tricksta_`	`I once made a character called - MyMomisAHorde`
`09:22.03`	`Tricksta_`	`heheh`
`09:22.14`	`nee\|work`	`hm`
`09:22.31`	`nee\|work`	`I reported the hunter having a pet names 'fourskin'`
`09:22.43`	`abbat_w`	`btw guys, anyone use cyCircled + sfx:cyCircled?`
`09:23.14`	`Tricksta_`	`Ok well guess I will grab CT_CORE and get the mail proggie`
`09:23.26`	`Hjalte`	`abbat_w: Hasnt the sfx skins been incorporated in cycircled?`
`09:23.31`	`gnorlish`	`the mail prog doesn't require core`
`09:23.35`	`abbat_w`	`Incorporated`
`09:23.38`	`Tricksta_`	`Nice!`
`09:23.47`	`Nargiddley`	`Tricksta_, what memory probs have you had with baggins ?`
`09:24.04`	`snurre`	`this is sick.. my warlock is gaining 0.97 DPS per 1 spelldmg o.O`
`09:24.09`	`ckknight`	`ding 10 in 2:20, pretty nice`
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`09:24.27`	`abbat_w`	`But i have some problem ;) I have a bar with trinkets but can't see equipped items from bar. Without cyCircled equipped trinkets have green border`
`09:24.30`	`Tricksta_`	`Well Warmup said it was taking alot of memory, thats why I was looking for something that could give me data in realtime to see if warmup is lying to me`
`09:24.39`	`abbat_w`	`But with Circled i can't see what is equipped ;(`
`09:24.48`	`Tricksta_`	`My addon mem load is at 50+`
`09:24.49`	`[Wobin]`	`not until 2.0.1`
`09:24.56`	`Tricksta_`	`ahhhh`
`09:24.56`	`Hjalte`	`abbat_w: try another skin maybe`
`09:25.04`	`[Wobin]`	`2.0.1 will allow us to find out the memory usage for the addons`
`09:25.07`	`Nargiddley`	`ugh warmup, should have known`
`09:25.13`	`nee\|work`	`2.1.0`
`09:25.13`	`ckknight`	`[Wobin]: 2.1.0`
`09:25.17`	`[Wobin]`	`(hopefully)`
`09:25.20`	`[Wobin]`	`oh yeah, that`
`09:25.28`	`Nargiddley`	`baggins probably just had the copy of the ace libs that stayed`
`09:25.44`	`Tricksta_`	`ponder`
`09:26.07`	`abbat_w`	`heh, it is possible now to 'profile' addons and look how many memory used addon?`
`09:26.08`	`Hjalte`	`Tricksta_: I'm using Baggins with no memory issues at all`
`09:26.16`	`Tricksta_`	`Yeah`
`09:26.46`	`nee\|work`	`Same here, unless I actually open Baggins, then the memory increase rate spikes`
`09:26.46`	`Nargiddley`	`cause getting it not being a mem hog was one of my goals, uses about 1mb when i first open bags. and i cant make it give a noticable increase after that`
`09:27.00`	`abbat_w`	`Maybe Tekkub rewrote they tekSupport for this? :)`
`09:27.06`	`nee\|work`	`Yup, I haven't checked subsequent times`
`09:27.11`	`Nargiddley`	`yeah, you get a spike on first open as it creates the frames and the cache`
`09:27.31`	`Tricksta_`	`Well somethin is kickin the sheet out of my adddon mem`
`09:27.47`	`Nargiddley`	`any pattern to when it happens ?`
`09:27.54`	`Hjalte`	`Tricksta_: What is your increasing rate?`
`09:28.01`	`Tricksta_`	`I did do a Gatherer import to Carto`
`09:28.05`	`nadas`	`meh, Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua is bugged :(`
`09:28.24`	`Nargiddley`	`i sit on about 25mb on startup`
`09:28.40`	`Tricksta_`	`Question: Should I install the Libs package and download all addons without the`
`09:28.43`	`Tricksta_`	`ugh externals?`
`09:28.52`	`Tricksta_`	`would that help on mem?`
`09:29.01`	`Tricksta_`	`or just download all with externals?`
`09:29.11`	`Tricksta_`	`Newb <---------------`
`09:29.12`	`Nargiddley`	`initial mem, a little bit. after the first gc not at all`
`09:29.15`	`Tricksta_`	`End User`
`09:29.42`	`Nargiddley`	`and by a little i mean not worth worrying about`
`09:29.50`	`abbat_w`	`I'm use standalone libs and d/l addons w/o externals (using wau)`
`09:29.56`	`abbat_w`	`All works fine`
`09:30.17`	`Tricksta_`	`Maybe I should try that approach`
`09:30.42`	`Tricksta_`	`Like I said, I also imported a ton of gatherer data into Carto`
`09:31.16`	`Nargiddley`	`does forcing a gc lower the mem usage alot ?`
`09:31.24`	`Hjalte`	`Tricksta_: Tru loading Baggins as your only addon..`
`09:31.45`	`Hjalte`	`s/tru/try/`
`09:32.19`	`Tricksta_`	`Going to go with standalones, and then re-install this stuff`
`09:32.21`	`abbat_w`	`Nargiddley, btw thanks for help with Bartender ;) I hate to move bars manual and with you advice do it from command line ;)`
`09:32.39`	`Tricksta_`	`Thanks for all the advice amigos`
`09:32.48`	`abbat_w`	`It was better way for me then editing bartender3.lua ;)`
`09:32.53`	`Nargiddley`	`:D`
`09:34.08`	`nee\|work`	`woo! Snow :)`
`09:36.17`	`Hjalte`	`Not on sydfyn`
`09:39.09`	`Kemayo`	`Tricksta_: Standalones has advantages... but one of those advantages is most emphatically not ease of use. Or newbie-friendliness.`
`09:40.14`	`abbat_w`	`Hmm.. Guys, can you please told me which inventory mod show inventory by groups like on this screenshot: http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot012607222123ou6.jpg`
`09:40.45`	`snurre`	`Baggins?`
`09:40.50`	`Nargiddley`	`yep thats baggins`
`09:40.58`	`nee\|work`	`rats`
`09:41.19`	`nee\|work`	`Stupid slow work internet connection :( I lost the race because my pic loaded slowly :(`
`09:41.25`	`nee\|work`	`Baggins!`
`09:41.26`	`abbat_w`	`Thanks`
`09:41.26`	`nee\|work`	`there`
`09:41.35`	`abbat_w`	`This mod is possible really nice`
`09:41.38`	`nee\|work`	`Though he uses ugly spacing`
`09:41.44`	`nee\|work`	`between the bottom three bags`
`09:42.07`	`todd`	`what mod is that in the inventory?`
`09:42.13`	`Industrial`	`todd: read?`
`09:42.16`	`todd`	`rather`
`09:42.26`	`todd`	`um`
`09:42.29`	`Industrial`	`it was just asked and told 10 lines up man`
`09:42.30`	`abbat_w`	`Ok`
`09:42.32`	`todd`	`no`
`09:42.38`	`todd`	`the window where he shows the gear`
`09:42.46`	`Nargiddley`	`inventory is technically equipped items :P`
`09:42.47`	`abbat_w`	`Which mod show xp (or rep) bar on top of the screen?`
`09:42.54`	`abbat_w`	`FuBar_XPFu?`
`09:43.00`	`Nargiddley`	`yeah`
`09:43.01`	`Industrial`	`"character pane"`
`09:43.05`	`todd`	`fuxpfu`
`09:43.09`	`todd`	`"inventory"`
`09:43.11`	`tig_`	`yep, fuxpfu`
`09:43.24`	`Nargiddley`	`to the WoW api, inventory is equipped`
`09:43.25`	`Nargiddley`	`heh`
`09:43.26`	`nee\|work`	`He uses 'Fizzle' too, for the item-coloring/durability in the Character Pane`
`09:43.40`	`Industrial`	`why do i even spend time here :\|`
`09:43.46`	`Industrial`	`le sigh`
`09:44.02`	`nee\|work`	`Industrial: shoo :)`
`09:45.03`	`vithos`	`Babble-Trainer-2.2\Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua:111: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 24) near '='`
`09:45.59`	`ckknight`	`somebody fix that`
`09:47.10`	`tig_`	`could this somebody plz add deDE translation for "Ferocious Inspiration" as "Wilde Eingebung" in Babble-Spell too?`
`09:47.20`	`tig_`	`;)`
`09:48.47`	`ckknight`	`both of these issues could be solved by getting an SVN account`
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`09:49.12`	`Kemayo`	`Though not in an immediate timeframe, most likely.`
`09:50.42`	`ckknight`	`what for?`
`09:51.32`	`tig_`	`ckknight: well, how do I get an svn account`
`09:51.45`	`ckknight`	`wiki`
`09:51.51`	`mitch0`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules`
`09:51.53`	`Kemayo`	`My SO runs a small publisher, and an order had to go out tomorrow.`
`09:52.08`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo: ah, okay`
`09:52.28`	`ckknight`	`gender-neutral nouns amuse me`
`09:52.39`	`Kemayo`	`I lobbied for warning stickers along the lines of "warning! may contain penis!" But was sadly overruled.`
`09:52.47`	`Kemayo`	`Me too. It's why I use them. :D`
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`09:54.42`	`Industrial`	`lol.`
`09:55.01`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`09:55.33`	`ckknight`	`it just seems like it'd be easier to say wife and/or girlfriend`
`09:55.40`	`ckknight`	`assuming straightdom`
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`09:59.34`	`ckknight`	`meh, I'm not one to judge`
`09:59.37`	`yacoob`	`:E`
`09:59.45`	`zombioob`	`braaains.`
`10:00.04`	`veganzombie`	`graaaains`
`10:00.23`	`zombioob`	`:D`
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`10:13.06`	`Adirelle\|work`	`hi there`
`10:13.21`	`nee\|work`	`Hello`
`10:17.17`	`snurre`	`i wonder if DrDamage is 100% correct`
`10:20.43`	`Adirelle\|work`	`got a question about BW's CheckForWipe`
`10:21.15`	`Adirelle\|work`	`is it absolutely necessary to check that player/raid target ?`
`10:21.38`	`Adirelle\|work`	`s/?/ is a boss-related mob/`
`10:22.12`	`CIA-17`	`03gamefaq * r27525 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:`
`10:22.12`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`10:22.12`	`CIA-17`	`- deDE Update`
`10:22.34`	`Adirelle\|work`	`I meant wouldn't be sufficient to check that there is a at least one alive people in combat in the boss zone ?`
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`10:27.20`	`[Ammo]`	`Adirelle\|work: you want to know with what they're in combat`
`10:27.25`	`[Ammo]`	`Adirelle\|work: so yeah`
`10:33.52`	`CIA-17`	`03shiftos * r27526 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2: esES updated`
`10:33.56`	`nee\|work`	`snurre: Why?`
`10:34.14`	`CIA-17`	`03shiftos * r27527 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFuLocale-esES.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: esES updated`
`10:34.18`	`Silviu-`	`Can someone fix that Babble-2.2 bug ?`
`10:34.35`	`Silviu-`	`[2007/02/08 09:53:36-281-x1]: Babble-Trainer-2.2\Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua:111: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 24) near '='`
`10:35.34`	`[Ammo]`	`sure`
`10:36.32`	`Adirelle\|work`	`[Ammo]: what about fight like thekal when you get out of combat because the boss fades out a few seconds ?`
`10:36.37`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r27528 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: ze germans! ze germans!`
`10:36.57`	`[Ammo]`	`it doesn't matter at thekal`
`10:37.02`	`Silviu-`	`Thx`
`10:37.03`	`[Ammo]`	`because no wipe detection is used there`
`10:37.44`	`Adirelle\|work`	`you mean there is no timer that need to be reset at wipe ?`
`10:37.49`	`[Ammo]`	`indeed`
`10:38.05`	`[Ammo]`	`the CheckForWipe and CheckForEngage are general things used`
`10:38.14`	`[Ammo]`	`and can be overridden in a module should the need arise`
`10:38.33`	`Adirelle\|work`	`oki, was just wondering`
`10:38.50`	`[Ammo]`	`they're pretty generic and should work for most occurances`
`10:38.58`	`[Ammo]`	`should you need something specific you override them`
`10:39.04`	`[Ammo]`	`or write own detection methods`
`10:39.07`	`[Ammo]`	`see C'Thun for instance`
`10:39.17`	`[Ammo]`	`that has a phase shift where he changes names etc`
`10:39.21`	`[Ammo]`	`it has special detection`
`10:39.51`	`evl`	`Will anyone ever go to AQ40? :P`
`10:40.02`	`[Ammo]`	`no idea`
`10:40.08`	`[Ammo]`	`but that's what BigWigs is LoD for :)`
`10:40.10`	`evl`	`I'm pretty sure that instance is dead :)`
`10:40.12`	`[Ammo]`	`it's not there until you use it`
`10:42.50`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27529 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`10:42.50`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`10:42.51`	`CIA-17`	`- Save and persist Stitch's tradeskill infos between sessions`
`10:52.28`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27530 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`10:52.28`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`10:52.28`	`CIA-17`	`- Item tooltips run off links instead of SetTradeSkillItem and such`
`10:57.57`	`Adirelle\|work`	`debate on Carto core functions is still going on`
`10:58.31`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27531 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`10:58.31`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`10:58.31`	`CIA-17`	`- Groupings working properly under the new system`
`10:59.02`	`[Ammo]`	`Adirelle\|work: yeah shrug`
`10:59.14`	`[Ammo]`	`I think the default settings just need some tweaking`
`11:00.21`	`haste`	`what about the carto core?`
`11:00.36`	`Adirelle\|work`	`well, I agree with the idea of allowing to disable the guild spammer (=completly move it into guild positions so it gets disabled with it)`
`11:00.50`	`Adirelle\|work`	`and the "deny database notes" by default`
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`11:01.24`	`Adirelle\|work`	`I don't care why people would like to do this`
`11:01.54`	`Adirelle\|work`	`I just think it won't hurt to offer them the optoin`
`11:05.27`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r27532 10SimpleChatMods/ (SimpleChatMods.toc sticky.lua): SimpleChatMods: added simplest sticky channels I could think of`
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`11:16.05`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27533 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`11:16.05`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`11:16.05`	`CIA-17`	`- Casting functions actually have code in them!`
`11:16.05`	`CIA-17`	`- This branch is now 'functional' in the barest sense of the term, for the interested and brave. Warning, though -- error messages and awkward behavior like crazy.`
`11:18.17`	`Adirelle\|work`	`[Ammo]: you should backup sticky state in OnEnable to restore them in OnDsable`
`11:18.27`	`Adirelle\|work`	`at least if you want it to be disabled :)`
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`11:29.30`	`nee\|work`	`Hm. I think sticky channels are mainly useful who use a layout where they only type in one or two channels at one time. otherwise you'll be typing /g /s etc instead of using the sticky function.`
`11:31.13`	`Adirelle\|work`	`I rarely discuss in more than two channels at a time and most of the time only one`
`11:32.09`	`Adirelle\|work`	`and typing /4 at start of every input quickly becomes annoying`
`11:32.19`	`evl`	`need sticky channels in SimpleChatMods!`
`11:32.37`	`evl`	`oh, it was just commited :D`
`11:32.39`	`Adirelle\|work`	`evl: am.mo added them in r27532`
`11:32.45`	`evl`	`and bracket styles :/`
`11:32.50`	`evl`	`I hate the default <>, takes so much space`
`11:33.04`	`Adirelle\|work`	`just edit it, there's a "config file" :)`
`11:33.10`	`art3mis`	`morning nerds`
`11:33.12`	`evl`	`aha, it's in there somewhere?`
`11:33.18`	`evl`	`art3mis: morning fart smeller`
`11:33.25`	`[Ammo]`	`SCM_PLAYERNAMES_LEFTBRACKET and RIGHTBRACKET :p;`
`11:33.33`	`evl`	`thanks :)`
`11:34.14`	`evl`	`scmTimestamps:Disable() threw an error yesterdya btw`
`11:34.21`	`[Ammo]`	`it nolonger exists`
`11:34.29`	`evl`	`aha`
`11:34.39`	`nee\|work`	`Adirelle\|work: The config file will be reset when you update, right?`
`11:34.41`	`art3mis`	`ya know what i noticed recently?`
`11:34.47`	`evl`	`[Ammo]: timestamps?`
`11:34.56`	`Adirelle\|work`	`nee\|work: unfortunately...`
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`11:35.00`	`nee\|work`	`Adirelle\|work: oki`
`11:35.08`	`art3mis`	`if you're using a simple chat addon that does replacement that simplecombat log doesnt work/run if it's in a hidden pane`
`11:35.35`	`nee\|work`	`hm`
`11:35.41`	`nee\|work`	`messy grammar`
`11:35.41`	`art3mis`	`it has to be a detached and shown winder`
`11:35.44`	`[Ammo]`	`no the Disable() function`
`11:35.49`	`art3mis`	`nah just missing commas ;P`
`11:35.54`	`evl`	`[Ammo]: what do I use instead?`
`11:35.55`	`nee\|work`	`Yea, hence the mess`
`11:36.02`	`[Ammo]`	`the ace2 way of disabling it`
`11:36.12`	`evl`	`sure, whateveer, but what do I type :D`
`11:36.28`	`[Ammo]`	`scmTimestamps:ToggleActive(false)`
`11:36.35`	`[Wobin]`	`hm`
`11:36.39`	`[Ammo]`	`I think :)`
`11:36.41`	`[Wobin]`	`I don't know if it's worth it atm...`
`11:36.49`	`[Wobin]`	`I'm heavily considering moving to linux`
`11:36.53`	`[Wobin]`	`with ubuntu or something`
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`11:37.01`	`[Wobin]`	`cause I can feel my windows laptop breaking beneath me`
`11:37.20`	`[Wobin]`	`I can't even run chkdsk on it without it bluescreening`
`11:37.38`	`tig_`	`broken ram?`
`11:38.09`	`[Wobin]`	`I don't think so`
`11:38.09`	`[Wobin]`	`I mean, if I set the option to 'last known working config' I get here, and everything is fineish`
`11:38.37`	`art3mis`	`ooo`
`11:38.41`	`Adirelle\|work`	`[Ammo]: if I get it right, SCM should only be extracted from SVN to avoid overwriting myconfig.lua ?`
`11:38.42`	`art3mis`	`new mazzleui 1.0 is out`
`11:38.55`	`art3mis`	`http://mazzlefizz.wowinterface.com`
`11:39.21`	`nee\|work`	`A new version 1.0?`
`11:39.25`	`[Ammo]`	`Adirelle\|work: yeah or you create your own little addon that configs it`
`11:39.32`	`nee\|work`	`*new mazzlui, 1.0, is out :P`
`11:39.34`	`[Ammo]`	`and make it depend on it`
`11:39.42`	`winkiller`	`lol`
`11:39.55`	`art3mis`	`yeah`
`11:39.58`	`winkiller`	`it's like windows 98... mazzleui 1.0 second edition!`
`11:40.06`	`Adirelle\|work`	`[Ammo]: second solution would be fine... tho everything is stored as globals :s`
`11:40.11`	`nee\|work`	`noo`
`11:40.11`	`art3mis`	`the 2.0 version thats shes been working on`
`11:40.21`	`[Ammo]`	`Adirelle\|work: that's the whole idea of it`
`11:40.27`	`tig_`	`[Wobin]: strange... move to ubuntu ;)`
`11:40.29`	`[Ammo]`	`you can config it from wherever`
`11:40.35`	`[Ammo]`	`specifically done this way`
`11:40.39`	`[Wobin]`	`I'd like to...tig`
`11:40.40`	`[Ammo]`	`don't like it, use something else`
`11:40.41`	`[Wobin]`	`but ...`
`11:40.44`	`art3mis`	`move to freespire ;P`
`11:40.44`	`[Wobin]`	`=\`
`11:40.52`	`art3mis`	`actually installed that yesterday it's pretty nice`
`11:40.57`	`nee\|work`	`Hm. I can't find screenshots`
`11:41.10`	`art3mis`	`screenshots of what?`
`11:41.19`	`winkiller`	`dito`
`11:41.21`	`nee\|work`	`Ah, on the downloads page`
`11:41.24`	`art3mis`	`yeah`
`11:41.28`	`Adirelle\|work`	`[Ammo]: nah, module are too light not to be used :)`
`11:41.31`	`nee\|work`	`Though I don't know if those are updated`
`11:41.37`	`art3mis`	`http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg`
`11:41.40`	`winkiller`	`ah`
`11:41.41`	`Adirelle\|work`	`(add 's' whereever needed)`
`11:41.45`	`art3mis`	`thats the ui i made from ace stuff ;P`
`11:41.54`	`nee\|work`	`Hm. Looks messy and crowded to me`
`11:42.06`	`art3mis`	`i just wish i had an installer and custom art and the ui frames mazzle has ;P`
`11:42.23`	`art3mis`	`its actually pretty nice and clean ocne its on yer screen`
`11:42.30`	`art3mis`	`once`
`11:42.30`	`nee\|work`	`Looks like an old screenshot as it's Naxxramas`
`11:42.38`	`art3mis`	`then again i have a widescreen lcd`
`11:42.39`	`winkiller`	`looks nice. if it weren't for comic sans shuddeR`
`11:42.52`	`nee\|work`	`art3mis: I meant the Mazzle thing you mentioned`
`11:42.55`	`art3mis`	`winkiller: my ui?`
`11:43.03`	`winkiller`	`the mazzle stuff`
`11:43.04`	`art3mis`	`nee\|work: yeah thats what im talking about`
`11:43.15`	`winkiller`	`wah, your domain name is hawt :/`
`11:43.15`	`[Wobin]`	`Meh, there are so many linux flavours`
`11:43.18`	`[Wobin]`	`how to chose?`
`11:43.27`	`art3mis`	`they're all the same`
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`11:43.33`	`art3mis`	`just pick one ;P`
`11:43.35`	`nee\|work`	`art3mis: I don't like the screenshot you linked to either. Too much black at the bottom.`
`11:43.47`	`nymbia`	`~framexml`
`11:43.55`	`purl`	`get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p`
`11:43.55`	`winkiller`	`art3mis: but if I were , I'd disable display_errors :P`
`11:43.55`	`art3mis`	`it's on a 1640x1050 monitor`
`11:43.55`	`nee\|work`	`It looks like there's a lot of wasted space in the black area`
`11:44.11`	`art3mis`	`nah thats where my chat frames are`
`11:44.14`	`Adirelle\|work`	`hmm... addon are loaded THEN SV right ?`
`11:44.20`	`nee\|work`	`art3mis: To me that just means there are more pixels which are black/wasted space :)`
`11:44.27`	`art3mis`	`hehe`
`11:44.42`	`art3mis`	`i like a clean organized screen ;P`
`11:44.55`	`art3mis`	`and i hate tabbing through chat winders`
`11:44.59`	`nee\|work`	`Then get a different ui :P :)`
`11:45.00`	`[Wobin]`	`The problem also remains that I don't know how well WoW will run on my system under linux`
`11:45.05`	`nee\|work`	`Same here. I don't use tabs either`
`11:45.13`	`[Wobin]`	`And I don't want to reformat my drive only to find I can't play =P`
`11:45.13`	`art3mis`	`screenie?`
`11:45.24`	`nee\|work`	`I don't like how the 3D models are aligned at the head instead of at the feet`
`11:45.25`	`art3mis`	`vmware for linux i believe can play it`
`11:45.36`	`nee\|work`	`art3mis: Nope.`
`11:45.36`	`art3mis`	`oh those are just there as place holders mainly`
`11:45.39`	`nee\|work`	`art3mis: Wine/Cedega can`
`11:45.53`	`[Wobin]`	`well`
`11:45.58`	`art3mis`	`until i can find a way to make good unitframes ;P`
`11:45.59`	`[Wobin]`	`I don't know how -well- it will play`
`11:46.08`	`[Wobin]`	`as it's hard enough on my laptop as it is =)`
`11:46.10`	`Adirelle\|work`	`[Wobin]: lots of people simply use wine`
`11:46.17`	`art3mis`	`wine's come a long way`
`11:46.24`	`art3mis`	`and works wicked on debian absed systems`
`11:46.26`	`art3mis`	`based`
`11:46.38`	`[Wobin]`	`hm`
`11:46.44`	`nee\|work`	`[Wobin]: I tried WoW/Linux for months, though I must admit that was months ago, I never got it to run as well as in Windows, and raiding was not possible with the fps I got. But, many people seem to be able to run it fine, though only a small percentage actually can prove it.`
`11:46.44`	`art3mis`	`not sure why its better on debian than slack or redhat but it is`
`11:46.47`	`Adirelle\|work`	`dunno, I know someone that plays fine on ubuntu`
`11:46.49`	`Adirelle\|work`	`with wine`
`11:46.59`	`art3mis`	`ubuntu is debian based`
`11:47.04`	`[Wobin]`	`is there any tool anyone knows of to format an ext3 drive in windows?`
`11:47.04`	`nee\|work`	`wine works fine on any distro, it's not designed to run better on debian`
`11:47.26`	`tig_`	`[Wobin]: why would you like to do that?`
`11:47.28`	`art3mis`	`no, thats true, that doesnt mean it doesnt run better on it though`
`11:47.36`	`nee\|work`	`Anyway, I won't argue X vs X anymore. Is it snowing over there, where you guys are too?`
`11:47.40`	`tig_`	`[Wobin]: you could just boot knoppix`
`11:47.45`	`[Wobin]`	`I've got an external drive I want to move all my files to before I reformat`
`11:47.46`	`Hjalte`	`art3mis, what addon do you use to display 3d models?`
`11:47.49`	`nee\|work`	`It's snowing a lot here :)`
`11:47.54`	`[Wobin]`	`and I'd like to be able to access them in linux`
`11:47.55`	`art3mis`	`zuanna model citizen`
`11:48.03`	`art3mis`	`its on wowi or ui.wow`
`11:48.06`	`nee\|work`	`[Wobin]: use fat32`
`11:48.06`	`tig_`	`[Wobin]: use vfat or boot knoppix`
`11:48.12`	`[Wobin]`	`hm`
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`11:48.15`	`art3mis`	`oh wobin`
`11:48.23`	`art3mis`	`knoppix or linspire live`
`11:48.27`	`art3mis`	`they run offa CD`
`11:48.29`	`nee\|work`	`You could use ext2, which has read/write in both windows and linux though`
`11:48.29`	`art3mis`	`so you can test`
`11:48.38`	`art3mis`	`and leave yer ntfs drive intact`
`11:48.51`	`[Wobin]`	`nee\|work: yeah, that's what I'm aiming for`
`11:49.04`	`nee\|work`	`or one of the smaller linux livecds which don't come with a full DE`
`11:50.13`	`nee\|work`	`try a damnsmalllinux cd for instance`
`11:50.28`	`nee\|work`	`or a slax one`
`11:50.49`	`[Wobin]`	`y'know what I might do...`
`11:51.09`	`[Wobin]`	`back up my important files, reinstall windows`
`11:51.22`	`[Wobin]`	`shorten the partition and install linux`
`11:51.36`	`[Wobin]`	`cause I'd like to be able to dual boot if required`
`11:51.40`	`tig_`	`that's how i do it`
`11:51.46`	`nee\|work`	`dual-boot? Hm. I did that and discovered I was mainly in either one, removing the need for the other.`
`11:51.49`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27534 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`11:51.49`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`11:51.49`	`CIA-17`	`- Not much changed but I want a revert point.`
`11:51.55`	`tig_`	`and i do not want the hassle of running wow under wine`
`11:51.57`	`[Wobin]`	`well, I'd use linux normally`
`11:52.08`	`[Wobin]`	`(if I can get Wow running =P)`
`11:52.15`	`tig_`	`;)`
`11:52.25`	`[Wobin]`	`but have the windows install available if I need to do any work work`
`11:52.27`	`tig_`	`I didnt ever try`
`11:52.36`	`[Wobin]`	`I'm willing to give it a go =)`
`11:52.54`	`tig_`	`work work is what I do exclusively under linux`
`11:53.09`	`[Wobin]`	`I'm going to reformat my external drive to ext2/3 though, so I can access/write on either`
`11:53.18`	`[Wobin]`	`hm`
`11:53.21`	`[Wobin]`	`actually I won't have to`
`11:53.38`	`[Wobin]`	`but it would e handier`
`11:53.49`	`[Wobin]`	`s/ e/ be/`
`11:54.23`	`[Wobin]`	`which is why I'm looking for a windows tool that can format to ext3`
`11:55.51`	`tig_`	`maybe cygwin includes mke2fs`
`11:56.41`	`nee\|work`	`[Wobin]: Same here. If I'd manage to get it running as well as in Windows, I'd switch most likely. Though, I want to play other games too, such as the upcoming spore and Dawn of War.`
`11:56.51`	`tig_`	`ah, it is availiable, cygwin package is 'e2fsprogs'`
`11:58.49`	`nee\|work`	`[Wobin]: I posted my findings about WoW/linux some time ago on the forums of the guild I was part of, let me dig it up.`
`11:58.57`	`[Wobin]`	`woo, thank you nee`
`11:59.16`	`Adirelle\|work`	`[Wobin]: you could also install Windows into a VMWare`
`11:59.27`	`Adirelle\|work`	`no need to reboot, run it only when needed`
`11:59.45`	`Adirelle\|work`	`and vmware is no free for personnal use*`
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`12:00.58`	`[Wobin]`	`hm`
`12:01.32`	`nee\|work`	`Only the player is free, not the full product`
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`12:04.06`	`tig_`	`[Wobin]: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_and_update_World_Of_Warcraft_with_wine`
`12:04.12`	`nee\|work`	`[Wobin]: http://www.theoldergamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44278 - it seems I never added a conclusion, but it would be 'Overall, gaming is still better on windows and I can recommend Windows for WoW over linux'`
`12:04.27`	`tig_`	`gentoo wiki is quite detailed`
`12:04.55`	`nee\|work`	`Yes, but I am not sure if it's up-to-date anymroe.`
`12:04.57`	`nee\|work`	`*anymore`
`12:05.10`	`nee\|work`	`There's a large thread about it on the gentoo forums with more specific info`
`12:05.31`	`tig_`	`nee\|work: at least 2.0.1 is mentioned on the wiki`
`12:05.37`	`nee\|work`	`:)`
`12:06.24`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27535 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`12:06.24`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`12:06.24`	`CIA-17`	`- Hooked some elements of the TradeSkillUI and CraftUI addons to cripple them, as CloseDropDownMenus() makes things not smooth when the whole damn addon is a dewdrop.`
`12:06.48`	`nee\|work`	`Ah well, it's a closed book to me. I loved linux, but she's sleeping it off now.`
`12:06.59`	`mexicaan`	`hi, which addon makes your combat log text appear like: '[You] ++ SomeAura' ? i like it better than default combat log text but i don't know the addon`
`12:07.18`	`sylvanaar`	`simple combat log`
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`12:13.51`	`art3mis`	`hrm this is kind of funny`
`12:14.04`	`nee\|work`	`'this'?`
`12:14.08`	`art3mis`	`mazzleui used to be awesome til i started mucking with ace`
`12:14.22`	`art3mis`	`now it's missing everything that i put into "my" ui`
`12:14.27`	`nee\|work`	`:)`
`12:14.30`	`art3mis`	`and she's using 80% ace mods`
`12:14.43`	`art3mis`	`and not the good ones either ;P`
`12:15.02`	`art3mis`	`oh well at least i can steal her art and uf's ;)`
`12:15.05`	`nee\|work`	`As is often the case. When people know how to make their own interface, they'll stick to that as they themselves know what they want best.`
`12:15.14`	`art3mis`	`i like the installer`
`12:15.17`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27536 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`12:15.17`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`12:15.17`	`CIA-17`	`- Hooks play nice with pet training UI`
`12:15.21`	`art3mis`	`and a few of the addons/placement`
`12:15.35`	`art3mis`	`but for the most part it's missing a fair amount of the stuff im comfy with`
`12:15.52`	`art3mis`	`oh well time to start stealing`
`12:16.46`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27537 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`12:16.46`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`12:16.47`	`CIA-17`	`- Pull the UIPanel nilling function, as it's no longer needed`
`12:16.56`	`haste`	`nee\|work: nah, the thread was move to the wiki, the thread is mostly patch discussion and how to improve general performance now`
`12:17.58`	`nee\|work`	`oki`
`12:20.39`	`CIA-17`	`03athou * r27538 10EnchantList/ (EnchantList.lua localization.lua):`
`12:20.39`	`CIA-17`	`EnchantList:`
`12:20.39`	`CIA-17`	`- maximum number of enchants whispered back can now be set`
`12:20.39`	`CIA-17`	`- the prefix for your answers can now be set (be careful to be specific enough or the filter may hide unwanted sentences)`
`12:23.36`	`CIA-17`	`03athou * r27539 10EnchantList/EnchantList.lua:`
`12:23.36`	`CIA-17`	`EnchantList:`
`12:23.36`	`CIA-17`	`- typo`
`12:27.20`	`[Wobin]`	`whats a good torrent site now?`
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`12:27.57`	`Gngsk`	`btjunkie.org`
`12:28.17`	`[Wobin]`	`ta`
`12:28.51`	`Industrial`	`torrentz.com`
`12:31.09`	`[Wobin]`	`I used to use that site`
`12:31.16`	`[Wobin]`	`but it's coming up as unconnectable for me =(`
`12:32.01`	`Industrial`	`loads fine here`
`12:33.10`	`Teshnor`	`hmm... I'm getting really pissed off at the localization for Windfury spells... Shouldn't I be able to use GetSpellName() instead of putting the localized strings in my own locale files?`
`12:33.50`	`evl`	`Localization killed the video star`
`12:34.02`	`Teshnor`	`Do the spells in the spellbook always have the same spellId?`
`12:34.03`	`evl`	`[Wobin]: thepiratebay.org`
`12:34.32`	`[Wobin]`	`evl: oh naturally =) how could I forget?`
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`12:35.47`	`evl`	`[Wobin]: I've personally stopped using torrents because they're a fucking PITA when you run out of seeders, slow speeds etc. I started subscribing to Giganews a couple of months ago and I'm really enjoying it so far, 120 day retention, full speed from the first second.`
`12:35.58`	`CIA-17`	`03shiftos * r27540 10ArcHUD2/Locale_esES.lua: ArcHUD2: esES updated`
`12:36.22`	`nee\|work`	`I still use torrents :)`
`12:36.35`	`CIA-17`	`03shiftos * r27541 10OptiTaunt/Locale-esES.lua: OptiTaunt: esES updated`
`12:37.20`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27542 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`12:37.20`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`12:37.20`	`CIA-17`	`- (insert worthless commit message here)`
`12:37.41`	`Teshnor`	`http://www.thottbot.com/?c=Shaman&sort=spellid&sort2= <--- That means that spellID is always tha same? :)`
`12:38.42`	`Gagorian`	`[12:19:31] <snurre> i wonder if DrDamage is 100% correct`
`12:39.19`	`Gagorian`	`It aims to be give or take 1 damage generally.`
`12:39.51`	`evl`	`DrDamage is only for casters?`
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`12:40.04`	`Gagorian`	`But there's still spells that aren't exact because I need some data on them.`
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`12:40.20`	`nee\|work`	`evl: Yes, I think so`
`12:40.24`	`Gagorian`	`evl: Yeah.`
`12:40.35`	`Gagorian`	`Shaman, druid, paladin, mage, warlock and priest`
`12:40.45`	`Gagorian`	`But not melee`
`12:40.50`	`evl`	`What the fuck?`
`12:40.55`	`nee\|work`	`'?`
`12:41.03`	`evl`	`You've got a DAMAGE mod and it doesn't include us rogues?!`
`12:41.10`	`evl`	`We're all damage baby! Head to toe! Damage, damge damge!`
`12:41.19`	`nee\|work`	`Why should a mod display neglible damage :)`
`12:41.28`	`nee\|work`	`*negligible`
`12:41.42`	`Pneumatus`	`or hunters :<`
`12:41.46`	`haste`	`that hurts :(`
`12:41.49`	`evl`	`It's simple`
`12:41.54`	`nee\|work`	`Yes, hunters cast too, like Shamns and Paladins do`
`12:41.57`	`evl`	`rogues will have the highest sustained DPS in the game`
`12:42.00`	`evl`	`for ever.`
`12:42.01`	`RLD_osx`	`kool, druids get epic flight form after buing epic and doing a quest for it.`
`12:42.10`	`nee\|work`	`RLD_osx: Yup`
`12:42.13`	`RLD_osx`	`errr buying`
`12:42.34`	`Teshnor`	`can someone tell me, is spellIDs static between all localizations?`
`12:42.51`	`haste`	`spellIDs are generated depending on your spellbook afiak`
`12:43.09`	`nymbia`	`Teshnor: spell ids? sure.. but you never touch those in game except for in enchant links`
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`12:43.48`	`haste`	`ah, the dataminer spellids`
`12:44.19`	`evl`	`Gagorian: Fun aside, I hate Swstats more than the dishes so please someday!`
`12:44.21`	`Teshnor`	`nymbia: I need to localization purpose :)`
`12:44.32`	`Teshnor`	`nymbia: Because I can't find the strings i need in blizz files`
`12:44.39`	`Teshnor`	`nymbia: I just need to get the spells name, that's all`
`12:44.41`	`nymbia`	`Teshnor: Babble`
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`12:44.45`	`Teshnor`	`doesn't work :)`
`12:44.50`	`Teshnor`	`doesn't have Windfury Weapon`
`12:45.06`	`nymbia`	`then add it ;)`
`12:45.21`	`Teshnor`	`hmm, it might have Windfury Weapon, but it doesn't show like that when it's imbued on a weapon`
`12:45.30`	`Teshnor`	`then it only show like "Windfury <rank>"`
`12:46.04`	`Teshnor`	`and it becomes a problem, cause in german it's Windfuror for the weapon enchant, and Windzorn for everything else :P`
`12:46.05`	`Gagorian`	`I'm not too familiar with exact melee damage calculations.. So I'll let someone else do it ;)`
`12:47.05`	`Teshnor`	`nymbia: I'm not sure I wanna touch Babble on my own ;)`
`12:49.09`	`Gagorian`	`Well use babble for everything else`
`12:49.20`	`Gagorian`	`Just add translation for winfury into your mod if you need it`
`12:50.59`	`nymbia`	`yeah, currently applied weapon buffs are kinda a special case`
`12:51.00`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I really dislike the way weapon buffs are handled by blizzard. They really should show the name of the buff as the icon text and the effect in the tooltip of the buff icon.`
`12:51.15`	`kenlyric\|work`	`why would I care the name of the weapon the buff is on?`
`12:51.23`	`nymbia`	`rofl`
`12:51.57`	`kenlyric\|work`	`then again, blizzard still can't handle buffs which are increased by talent points.`
`12:52.08`	`Gagorian`	`and it's also very idiotic that it triggers UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED constantly -_-`
`12:52.19`	`Gagorian`	`firestone for warlocks does it every 3-4s`
`12:53.06`	`CIA-17`	`03gamefaq * r27543 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:`
`12:53.06`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`12:53.06`	`CIA-17`	`- Maraudon deDE Update`
`12:59.04`	`[Wobin]`	`nee\|work: I can't seem to access that page you posted =(`
`13:01.56`	`Teshnor`	`nymbia: Quick question, can I have additional strings in non-english localizations that doesn't exist in then english one? :P`
`13:02.50`	`nymbia`	`Teshnor: i dont see why not but i dont quite understand what context you mean`
`13:02.54`	`nee\|work`	`[Wobin]: Oh yea.. Egh. It's for registered users only. In short, it was just me mentioning I would be trying it for some weeks and after that I would report my findings on WoW/linux.`
`13:03.07`	`[Wobin]`	`ah =)`
`13:03.19`	`nee\|work`	`:)`
`13:03.48`	`Teshnor`	`nymbia: For example, in all other languages (so far) the windfury buff on weapons in the same, except german`
`13:03.59`	`Teshnor`	`So I need to have an extra string in the german localization for the weapon buff`
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`13:04.13`	`Teshnor`	`Because it's named Windfuror while the rest is Windzorn :P`
`13:04.20`	`Teshnor`	`stupid`
`13:04.39`	`nymbia`	`Teshnor: yeah just have it only do that check if GetLocale() == "deDE"`
`13:04.46`	`Teshnor`	`yeah that's what I do`
`13:04.49`	`Teshnor`	`"the fix"`
`13:05.02`	`nymbia`	`silly though :(`
`13:05.06`	`Teshnor`	`yeah... really`
`13:07.38`	`Gagorian`	`If that's your worst problem then all is good ;)`
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`13:09.29`	`nevcairiel`	`morning`
`13:09.31`	`Teshnor`	`meh`
`13:09.37`	`Teshnor`	`this is really irritating`
`13:10.22`	`CIA-17`	`03zuno * r27544 10UnitActionBars/ (App.lua UnitActionBars.toc):`
`13:10.22`	`CIA-17`	`UnitActionBars:`
`13:10.22`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed incorrect variable reference (should have been "name", but was "info.name").`
`13:10.23`	`Teshnor`	`self.mainHand.rank = G:FindDeformat("Windfury %d") <--- Shouldn't that get the rank of the buff?`
`13:10.37`	`Teshnor`	`G is Gratuity of course ;)`
`13:11.26`	`CIA-17`	`03zuno * r27545 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:`
`13:11.26`	`CIA-17`	`UnitActionBars:`
`13:11.26`	`CIA-17`	`- Refreshed toc to be current.`
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`13:13.24`	`Teshnor`	`nymbia: Btw. Your SpellBinder is great, but the gui should be wider... My spells doesn't fit in the window :)`
`13:13.51`	`nymbia`	`Teshnor: yeah the text kinda overlaps sometimes..`
`13:13.56`	`Teshnor`	`nymbia: And it would be even cooler if you could make it work like TrinityBars (you bind right in the spellbook)`
`13:14.13`	`Teshnor`	`That feat. is great`
`13:14.13`	`abbat-w`	`Yep`
`13:14.27`	`abbat-w`	`It's be much better if have ui like qUserKeys by que`
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`13:14.35`	`Teshnor`	`I had to stop using TrinityBars because it's profiling is corrupt :/`
`13:14.37`	`Adirelle\|work`	`does someone have a link about the "boss rule" ?`
`13:14.46`	Funkeh`	`hey all`
`13:15.00`	Funkeh`	`woot!`
`13:15.08`	Funkeh`	`last atlantis episode downloaded`
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`13:15.17`	`Adirelle\|work`	`s/rule/pseudo-level rule/`
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`13:16.29`	`nee\|work`	`cool: http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/backward_clock_turns_back_the_time.php`
`13:16.30`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r27546 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:`
`13:16.30`	`CIA-17`	`DrDamage:`
`13:16.30`	`CIA-17`	`-Note to self: Don't use UnitManaMax for determining casts left on actionbar text!`
`13:18.15`	`vhaarr`	`renchap: Hey.`
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`13:21.57`	`Teshnor`	`wtf is this! ...`
`13:22.11`	`Teshnor`	`I'm doing exactly as it says in the API doc :/ still don't get it to work!`
`13:22.59`	`Teshnor`	`g:FindDeformat("Durability: %d / %d") <--- How it says in doc... so I do g:FindDeformat("Windfury %d") - now that would return the rank if the tooltip contains Windfury <1-5>, right?!`
`13:23.32`	`nevcairiel`	`hm, doesnt it use roman numbers?`
`13:23.37`	`Teshnor`	`well, I just get nil... it works if I do a tedious if/then/else with find`
`13:23.52`	`Teshnor`	`nevcairiel: Nope`
`13:24.29`	`Teshnor`	`if I do g:Find("Windfury 2") I get true...`
`13:25.02`	`Adirelle\|work`	`trailing/leading whitespaces ?`
`13:25.12`	`Teshnor`	`that's how I checked for the rank before... did a tedious if/then/else for all 5 ranks`
`13:25.33`	`Teshnor`	`Adirelle\|work: the only whitespace that matters is the one between the rank and the buff :)`
`13:25.41`	`Teshnor`	`Deformat should figure out the rest?`
`13:26.02`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Teshnor: well, note sure the deformat works exactly like find`
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`13:26.08`	`Adirelle\|work`	`s/the/that/`
`13:26.24`	`Teshnor`	`I know, so why does it return nil?!`
`13:26.34`	`Teshnor`	`when I'm doing the exact same thing as the API states`
`13:26.41`	`Industrial`	`Anyone have experience with apache, .htaccess files and mod_rewrite?`
`13:27.01`	`Adirelle\|work`	`by exemple, find may match a substring, I'm wondering if deformat should watch the whole string`
`13:27.10`	`Teshnor`	`the buff itself is located on it's own row... and it looks like this... Windfury 2 (25 min)`
`13:27.25`	`Adirelle\|work`	`weird indeed`
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`13:27.49`	`Teshnor`	`so deformat should match when I check for "Windfury %d"`
`13:27.53`	`arJUna`	`g:Find("Windfury (%d)")`
`13:27.53`	`nevcairiel`	`tried adding a capture for the time as well?`
`13:27.57`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit 07PT3 * r27547 10Mendeleev/ (4 files): Mendeleev: Drycode fixes.`
`13:28.01`	`arJUna`	`try surounded in ()`
`13:28.19`	`Teshnor`	`I think deformat treat () like characters`
`13:28.25`	`Teshnor`	`it's not regexp :)`
`13:28.34`	`Teshnor`	`but sure, I can try`
`13:28.59`	`Adirelle\|work`	`i'm sure deformat ain't regexp`
`13:28.59`	`Adirelle\|work`	`it should does the opposite of format`
`13:29.45`	`Adirelle\|work`	`so that : deformat('Windfury %d', format('Windfury %d', 5)) == 5`
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`13:29.46`	`Teshnor`	`nope, didn't work :)`
`13:29.56`	`CIA-17`	`03pneumatus * r27548 10ClassLoot/ClassLoot_Data.lua:`
`13:29.56`	`CIA-17`	`ClassLoot:`
`13:29.56`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed duplicates from the data file`
`13:29.56`	`Teshnor`	`Adirelle\|work: I'll try`
`13:30.54`	`Teshnor`	`the weird thing is that g:Find("Windfury 2") return true`
`13:31.03`	`Teshnor`	`and g:FindDeformat("Windfury %d") return nil`
`13:31.24`	`Teshnor`	`that's what bothers me :/`
`13:31.36`	`Adirelle\|work`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:31.59`	`Adirelle\|work`	`i.e. deformat('Windfury %d', format(' Windfury %d', 5)) == nil`
`13:32.04`	`Adirelle\|work`	`deformat is "anchored"`
`13:32.07`	`nymbia`	`Teshnor: try g:Find("Windfury %d") -- maybe its just a problem with the FindDeformat function`
`13:32.33`	`Teshnor`	`nymbia: Yeah that works... That's how I solved it before`
`13:32.40`	`Teshnor`	`But it's tedious to run through a if/then/else just to get the rank`
`13:33.07`	`nymbia`	`Teshnor: yeah`
`13:33.35`	`Adirelle\|work`	`er... rank = select(3,g:Find("Windfury (%d)")) should do the trick`
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`13:35.05`	`Teshnor`	`... what the hell is this?!`
`13:35.10`	`Teshnor`	`self:PrintDebug("Test: " .. D('Windfury %d', format('Windfury %d', 5))) <-- I tried that just for fun`
`13:35.12`	`nymbia`	`lol`
`13:35.28`	`nymbia`	`"If a match is found, the return values from string.find are returned"`
`13:35.34`	`Teshnor`	`1344: attempt to concatenate a nil value`
`13:35.42`	`Teshnor`	`deformat is screwed`
`13:35.52`	`nevcairiel`	`deformat needs the text first`
`13:35.55`	`nevcairiel`	`and formatstring second`
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`13:36.00`	`Teshnor`	`haha :)`
`13:36.01`	`Adirelle\|work`	`right...`
`13:36.29`	`Pneumatus`	`guys, does anyone know with the wiki, do i need to create a page for a new addon to make it pull the toc data?`
`13:36.30`	`Adirelle\|work`	`ouchis`
`13:36.39`	`Pneumatus`	`or will a page get added automatically as a placeholder?`
`13:36.44`	`nymbia`	`but yeah Adirelle\|work is right Teshnor, rank = select(3,g:Find("Windfury (%d)")) should work just fine`
`13:37.05`	`nymbia`	`Pneumatus: you need to create the page`
`13:37.14`	`Teshnor`	`I'll try that`
`13:37.26`	`Pneumatus`	`ok, and then wiki will notice that the toc box needs its data pulling?`
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`13:37.44`	`Adirelle\|work`	`hmm... :FindDeformat use the right argument order`
`13:37.55`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit 07PT3 * r27549 10Mendeleev/ (3 files): Mendeleev: Seems UnitLevel("player") isn't available on load, so disable the tests for now.`
`13:38.16`	`Teshnor`	`yay! :)`
`13:38.18`	`Adirelle\|work`	`but if you text is really "Windfury 2 (25 min)", deformat(text, "Windfury %d") won't work`
`13:38.21`	`Teshnor`	`it works`
`13:38.22`	`Teshnor`	`thanks :)`
`13:38.29`	`nymbia`	`Pneumatus: it should have the toc data generated already, just needs a pointer to it on the wiki page`
`13:38.47`	`Teshnor`	`Adirelle\|work: Ok, so deformat need an exact string`
`13:39.02`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Teshnor: that's what I'm trying to explain :)`
`13:39.07`	`nymbia`	`anyway i'm off for a bit, later guys`
`13:39.25`	`Adirelle\|work`	`but that's not really "exact", as "exact" often mean "plain" (without fancy pattern)`
`13:39.26`	`Teshnor`	`Adirelle\|work: what exactly do select(3 do?`
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`13:39.36`	`Industrial`	`Teshnor: gogo manual.`
`13:39.39`	`Teshnor`	`:p`
`13:40.33`	`Teshnor`	`isn't that a lua function?`
`13:40.43`	`nevcairiel`	`http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-select`
`13:40.45`	`nevcairiel`	`it is :P`
`13:40.46`	`Industrial`	`yeah, so where do you find it?`
`13:41.01`	`Teshnor`	`yeah, I guess they didn't add it to wowwiki :)`
`13:41.15`	`nevcairiel`	`thats why there is the ref manual`
`13:41.25`	`nevcairiel`	`one of my hotbar shortcuts :D`
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`13:41.43`	`Teshnor`	`yeah, gotta add that link`
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`13:43.06`	`Chosi`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4685.0`
`13:43.07`	`Chosi`	`gogo :)`
`13:43.10`	`Teshnor`	`hmm`
`13:43.31`	`Teshnor`	`Adirelle\|work: I guess I need to convert the result to int? Cos it seems I'm getting the rank as string now ;)`
`13:44.10`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Teshnor: yep, find/deformat work on strings and returns strings, use tonumber`
`13:44.12`	`nevcairiel`	`it was stripped from a string`
`13:44.20`	`nevcairiel`	`so it still is a string`
`13:44.20`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`13:44.39`	`kenlyric\|work`	`bah, allplayed borked!`
`13:45.08`	`Teshnor`	`Adirelle\|work: precisely ;)`
`13:45.16`	`Teshnor`	`well, problems solved :)`
`13:45.21`	`Teshnor`	`thanks for the help`
`13:45.24`	`Adirelle\|work`	`np`
`13:45.25`	`Daemona`	`kenlyric\|work just use restFu ?`
`13:45.41`	`kenlyric\|work`	`allplayed > restfu`
`13:46.08`	`kenlyric\|work`	`though now I have moneyfu, so that's one feature of allplayed I don't need anymore.`
`13:46.31`	`kenlyric\|work`	`but I don't think restfu shows things like logout location.`
`13:46.39`	`Teshnor`	`now to my second problem`
`13:46.49`	`nevcairiel`	`get a brain, and remember where you logged out`
`13:46.49`	`nevcairiel`	`:_D`
`13:47.09`	`Teshnor`	`:D`
`13:47.23`	`Daemona`	`sure it does`
`13:47.46`	`Teshnor`	`I've registered the events for entering and leaving combat... Because I need to keep track on how long one has been in combat (to be able to calculate dps)`
`13:48.20`	`Teshnor`	`so when entering combat: self.combatStart = GetTime()`
`13:48.22`	`Teshnor`	`and then local addTime = GetTime()-self.combatStart at leaving combat`
`13:48.26`	`Daemona`	`time played, time to rest, current xp, rested xp, zone logged out,`
`13:48.53`	`Teshnor`	`addTime would then hold seconds in combat, right?`
`13:49.06`	`nevcairiel`	`yes`
`13:49.12`	`Teshnor`	`it's so weird...`
`13:49.16`	`Teshnor`	`can't get it to work at all...`
`13:49.21`	`nevcairiel`	`in floating point tho`
`13:49.28`	`Teshnor`	`self.db.char.session[self.mainHand.name].combatTime = self.db.char.session[self.mainHand.name].combatTime + addTime`
`13:49.34`	`Teshnor`	`yeah but that wouldn't matter`
`13:49.50`	`Teshnor`	`I add it to the combatTime for the current weapon`
`13:50.10`	`Teshnor`	`and after that I reset self.combatStart = 0`
`13:50.18`	`Teshnor`	`just to make sure ;)`
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`13:50.42`	`Teshnor`	`nevcairiel: Could i use time() instead of GetTime()`
`13:50.50`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Teshnor: what's the issue ?`
`13:51.06`	`Teshnor`	`well, sometimes I just end up getting thousands of seconds`
`13:51.16`	`Teshnor`	`even though I've only been in combat for a couple of seconds`
`13:51.28`	`Adirelle\|work`	`hmm... first use nil to reset instead of 0`
`13:51.37`	`Adirelle\|work`	`then, which event do you register exactly ?`
`13:52.33`	`Adirelle\|work`	`(and are you sure they are always triggered in the right order ?)`
`13:52.38`	`Teshnor`	`actualDPS = self:Round((self.db.char.lifetime[self.mainHand.name].totalDamage/self.db.char.lifetime[self.mainHand.name].combatTime),1)`
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`13:52.43`	`Teshnor`	`that's how I calculate the dps ;)`
`13:53.18`	`Adirelle\|work`	`and you get the DPS of an oyster...`
`13:53.27`	`Adirelle\|work`	`cause combatTime is too high`
`13:53.47`	`Teshnor`	`something like that, yeah :P`
`13:54.32`	`Adirelle\|work`	`if you reset with 0 and for any reason "entering combat" doesn't trigger, you will end up with addTime = GetTime() - 0 ...`
`13:54.48`	`nevcairiel`	`or an error if its nil`
`13:54.49`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`13:55.08`	`Adirelle\|work`	`yep, that will allow is something is wrong in a first time :)`
`13:55.16`	`Adirelle\|work`	`s/allow/allow to see/`
`13:55.23`	`Teshnor`	`Adirelle\|work: why wouldn't entering combat trigger? :(`
`13:55.42`	`nevcairiel`	`which events do you use?`
`13:55.45`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Teshnor: dunno, because thing may not happen the way they should`
`13:55.50`	`Teshnor`	`PLAYER_ENTER_COMBAT`
`13:55.59`	`nevcairiel`	`use REGEN_DISABLED and ENABLED`
`13:56.01`	`nevcairiel`	`its safer :D`
`13:56.13`	`Adirelle\|work`	`ENTER_COMBAT is for melee attack only`
`13:56.29`	`Teshnor`	`meh`
`13:56.40`	`Teshnor`	`Sometimes blizz is stupid`
`13:56.45`	`nevcairiel`	`PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED and DISABLED work fine for me`
`13:56.57`	`Teshnor`	`ok`
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`13:57.20`	`Teshnor`	`self:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED", "EnterCombat") then? :)`
`13:57.22`	`Adirelle\|work`	`I think ENTER/LEAVE COMBAT is used only to update "melee" butotn`
`13:57.35`	`Teshnor`	`well that's just stupid... but ok`
`13:57.37`	`mitch0`	`yes. it's even documented on wowwiki :)`
`13:57.39`	`Teshnor`	`I'll give it a try`
`13:57.54`	`Teshnor`	`mitch0: I guess I was tired when I looked there :)`
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`13:58.07`	`Teshnor`	`that's where I got player_enter_combat from :P`
`13:58.13`	`mitch0`	`Teshnor: that happens, yep :)`
`13:58.36`	`mitch0`	`(btw, does anyone remember how to turn off the annoying bold colon in BitchX?)`
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`13:59.25`	`Health`	`You delete it and install irssi! HEHE`
`14:00.01`	`krka`	`HEHE`
`14:00.10`	`Chosi`	`H E H E`
`14:00.11`	`Chosi`	`...`
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`14:00.42`	`Teshnor`	`Health: Are you the same guy hanging around in #php.se on qnet?`
`14:00.58`	`mitch0`	`it's some broadband router of a friend of mine, so I don't really have much choice... (I used ircii when I had my own "outside" server, but we used it only for irc, so it wasn't worth paying for linode :)`
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`14:01.42`	`Health`	`Teshnor: Yes.`
`14:01.45`	`Chosi`	`that doesn't make sense`
`14:02.20`	`Teshnor`	`Health: Cool :)`
`14:02.25`	`mitch0`	`hm. how much +int would I need so that my bloody elemental doesn't run out of mana all the time :( he used to be able to cast for the full 45sec when I was 60...`
`14:02.25`	`Health`	`Not really!`
`14:02.48`	`Teshnor`	`Health: Good old health! Always grumpy :D`
`14:02.49`	`roy7`	`Has anyone else noticed RegenFu providing wrong figures?`
`14:03.10`	`Teshnor`	`roy7: In what way?`
`14:04.00`	`Teshnor`	`roy7: If you got stuff that gives + to something every 5 secs, that will only show up once every 5 seconds :)`
`14:04.03`	`CIA-17`	`03tattersail * r27550 10IncomingHealsLib/IncomingHealsLib.toc:`
`14:04.03`	`CIA-17`	`IncomingHealsLib:`
`14:04.03`	`CIA-17`	`- .toc small update`
`14:04.25`	`roy7`	`Variety of hunters have used it to see that AotV isn't giving us the right mp5, it seemed to be based on base int only not total int. But I'm not sure of that now. RegenFu might be giving wrong mp5, and AotV working. Two observations. Mana ticks every 2-3 seconds, for the amount RegenFu says is mp5. but the mp5 would be higher because of the multiple ticks. Also, removing a 6mp5 armor item only lowered RegenFu's mp5 by 3.`
`14:04.36`	`mitch0`	`how long does it take usually to get the svn access (or the denial mail :) ?`
`14:04.45`	`vhaarr`	`3 years.`
`14:04.49`	`Teshnor`	`roy7: And RegenFu updates every second, so it only show for one sec`
`14:04.59`	`mitch0`	`vhaarr: eh :)`
`14:05.06`	`roy7`	`So what RegenFu says is "mp5" is really "mana added last tick" with nothing to do with mp5?`
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`14:05.31`	`nevcairiel`	`didnt mana tic like every 2 seconds?`
`14:05.42`	`roy7`	`No wonder we all look like idiots on the bug report forum lol.`
`14:05.56`	`vhaarr`	`roy7: err, no.`
`14:05.57`	`roy7`	`Yes it seems to.`
`14:06.01`	`vhaarr`	`Mana/5sec is mana/5sec.`
`14:06.09`	`vhaarr`	`Not mana/tick.`
`14:06.22`	`roy7`	`So why does removing a 6mp5 item lower RegenFu's "mp5" by 3?`
`14:06.39`	`vhaarr`	`Maybe the addon is bugged.`
`14:06.45`	`roy7`	`And that's why I'm here. :)`
`14:07.00`	`Teshnor`	`I get 39 mana/sec`
`14:07.05`	`Teshnor`	`from regenfu`
`14:07.11`	`Teshnor`	`it updates every second`
`14:07.15`	`roy7`	`Try taking off a mp5 item, or use a +mp5 potion.`
`14:07.33`	`Teshnor`	`spirit gives me 21.4 mp/sec, and the rest is from int`
`14:07.52`	`roy7`	`Hm`
`14:07.54`	`Teshnor`	`roy7: Yeah, that would change the mana regen every 5 sec...`
`14:07.58`	`Teshnor`	`but it will only show for one sec`
`14:08.08`	`Teshnor`	`and then show the normal rate, until next 5 second tick :)`
`14:08.14`	`roy7`	`Hm`
`14:08.30`	`roy7`	`I guess that's my (and other people's) confusion, I thought the numbner showing was my averaged mp5.`
`14:08.34`	`Teshnor`	`try to drink, and you'll seee`
`14:08.35`	`art3mis`	`ahhh there we go`
`14:08.40`	`Teshnor`	`that's the easiest way to see how it works`
`14:08.47`	`art3mis`	`all MY addons with mazzles UF and art ;P`
`14:08.56`	`Teshnor`	`drinking give mana every 5 sec`
`14:09.17`	`Teshnor`	`regenfu will show a great boost in mana regen once per 5 seconds :)`
`14:09.21`	`roy7`	`Ah`
`14:09.32`	`roy7`	`So the bug is in my understanding of that the addon is telling me.`
`14:09.45`	`roy7`	`If it's updated once a second why doesn't it show 0 on the seconds between ticks?`
`14:10.05`	`Teshnor`	`not btw`
`14:10.08`	`Teshnor`	`drinking gives every second :/`
`14:10.10`	`Teshnor`	`so didn't work`
`14:10.27`	`Teshnor`	`roy7: normal regen gives ever second`
`14:11.15`	`roy7`	`Hm`
`14:11.24`	`Teshnor`	`well it's weird :)`
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`14:11.46`	`roy7`	`An option to show average regen for the last 5 seconds in or out of combat would be nice and more intuitive.`
`14:11.55`	`Teshnor`	`I guess regenfu show it like it's giving every second, when it's actually only giving every fifth`
`14:12.08`	`roy7`	`Andn then adding a 6mp5 item would actually raise your reported mp5 by 6. :)`
`14:12.21`	`Teshnor`	`:p`
`14:13.12`	`roy7`	`Does my 6mp5 item actually add like 3 every 2.5 seconds instead of 6 every 5?`
`14:13.28`	`roy7`	`Cause you'd think I'd see 30..36..30..36 as the ticks alternate.`
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`14:15.19`	`vhaarr`	`No, it is divided between the normal 2 second ticks.`
`14:15.44`	`vhaarr`	`Except for a few things like Blessing of Wisdom, that actually gives you X mana every 5sec.`
`14:15.54`	`roy7`	`Ah ok.`
`14:16.37`	`roy7`	`So when it tells me my regen is, say, 40, that's 40 * 5/2 for actual mp5.`
`14:18.54`	`roy7`	`Well well. Looky there. AotV does work.`
`14:19.16`	`roy7`	`It's adding 14 * 5 / 2 mp5, which is 25% of my total int. :)`
`14:20.00`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r27551 10Cartographer/Cartographer_GuildPositions/GuildPositions.lua: Cartographer/Cartographer_GuildPositions: changed onDisable to unregister the events and comm channels when disabled .. DRYCODE`
`14:21.46`	`kagaro`	`ckknight: that should stop the forum complaints about guild positions .. disable the module to stop transmitting/participating`
`14:22.29`	`roy7`	`So what I really need to do is request a new feature for RegenFu, called "display as mp5", which will take the current displayed regen from the last tick but show it as 5/2 that amount. I appreciate your help all.`
`14:22.42`	`roy7`	`(And Cartographer is work of art btw.)`
`14:23.26`	`vhaarr`	`kagaro: That should already happen OnDisable. If it does not happen automatically, that's a AceEvent/AceModuleCore/AceComm bug.`
`14:23.40`	`Adirelle\|work`	`kagaro: you're missing a point`
`14:23.52`	`kagaro`	`well it wasnt, Adirelle, im also gona change the guildspammer section`
`14:24.12`	`Adirelle\|work`	`oh, why didn't you commit both ?`
`14:25.24`	`kagaro`	`cause I havent gotten to the Cartographer section yet`
`14:25.29`	`vhaarr`	`kagaro: That should already happen OnDisable. If it does not happen automatically, that's a AceEvent/AceModuleCore/AceComm bug.`
`14:25.41`	`vhaarr`	`kagaro: So, you're telling me Ace2 is bugged?`
`14:25.49`	`vhaarr`	`By not saying anything, I mean,.`
`14:26.07`	`kagaro`	`vhaarr: it always good practice to clean up after yourself in any case`
`14:26.11`	`mitch0`	`I'm almost 100% sure Ace2 is bugged (in one way or another :)`
`14:26.41`	`vhaarr`	`kagaro: I'm guessing you've tested this by disabling the module and doing a /print module:IsEventRegistered or something.`
`14:26.53`	`vhaarr`	`kagaro: And if you haven't, and it's not bugged, that commit won't solve squat.`
`14:28.16`	`roy7`	`LOL, mana regen is on the Spell tab of char screen. Had no idea. Doh.`
`14:28.18`	Funkeh`	`guild positions transmits when disabled, but doesn't allow you to view others, pretty sure thats acecomm`
`14:28.57`	`Adirelle\|work`	`well... don't forget positions is broadcaster by "guildspammer", which is a standalone acecomm "instance" included in core`
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`14:29.48`	`Adirelle\|work`	`=> http://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/Cartographer/Cartographer.lua?order=name#L691`
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`14:30.15`	`Adirelle\|work`	`merging that bit of code into Guild Positions should be sufficient`
`14:30.49`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight doesn't want to do that, he wants the guild positions transmitted all the time.`
`14:30.59`	`vhaarr`	`Even if you disable the module.`
`14:31.45`	`nevcairiel`	`is guildpositions being broadcasted from the core? so even if i delete the module people can see me?`
`14:31.53`	`vhaarr`	`yeah`
`14:31.57`	`kagaro`	`bbiab`
`14:32.00`	`nevcairiel`	`that sucks, imho`
`14:32.03`	`abbat_w`	`Hmm... How many traffic produce this mod?`
`14:32.12`	`abbat_w`	`I mean _guildpos`
`14:32.26`	`[Wobin]`	`night all`
`14:32.36`	`abbat_w`	`cya Wobin`
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`14:35.48`	`Adirelle\|work`	`abbat_w: it sends one "ping" every max(5,guildsize/10) seconds`
`14:36.21`	`abbat_w`	`Ah... it's nothing`
`14:36.48`	Funkeh`	`oh fuck off`
`14:36.50`	`Adirelle\|work`	`well... if you have 40 guildies with carto, it sends 40 pings every 5 seconds`
`14:36.53`	Funkeh`	`'to be continued'`
`14:37.05`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`14:37.08`	`nevcairiel`	`sg:a eh?`
`14:37.09`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`14:37.11`	Funkeh`	`fucking wait to july for the next season`
`14:37.14`	Funkeh`	`yes`
`14:37.25`	`nevcairiel`	`its always the same with sga`
`14:37.27`	`nevcairiel`	`every season`
`14:37.30`	`nevcairiel`	`goddamnit`
`14:37.30`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`14:37.32`	Funkeh`	`i know >.<`
`14:38.03`	`Teshnor`	`yay :D`
`14:38.17`	`Teshnor`	`finally my theretical/actual DPS calculation for windfury works ;)`
`14:38.27`	`Adirelle\|work`	`grats :D`
`14:38.52`	`Teshnor`	`yeah :D and it count all the talents as well`
`14:39.06`	`vhaarr`	Funkeh`: haha
`14:39.14`	`Teshnor`	`and theoretical dps is calculated based upon what rank of windfury you are currently using`
`14:39.14`	`vhaarr`	Funkeh`: What else can you expect from that episode :P
`14:39.31`	Funkeh`	`all the wraith die and they live happily ever after`
`14:39.34`	`Adirelle\|work`	`btw, what means "bbiab" ?`
`14:39.40`	`vhaarr`	`be back in a bit`
`14:39.45`	`Adirelle\|work`	`ok`
`14:39.47`	`Adirelle\|work`	`thx`
`14:39.50`	`Teshnor`	`so for me, with my current weapon, with windfury rank2, I have a theoretical DPS of 39.2 :P`
`14:40.45`	`arJUna`	`http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2007/02/internet_survives_major_attack.html?nav=rss_blog`
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`14:42.30`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r27552 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer: Added a DisableGuildSpammer method`
`14:44.35`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r27553 10Cartographer/Cartographer_GuildPositions/GuildPositions.lua: Cartographer/Cartographer_GuildPositions: changed onDisable to unregister the events and comm channels when disabled including the guildspammer .. DRYCODE`
`14:44.37`	`kagaro`	`there`
`14:44.53`	`kagaro`	`disable GuildPositions and you shut it off completly`
`14:45.07`	`arJUna`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:45.10`	`arJUna`	`=)`
`14:45.14`	`kagaro`	`ck: if that is a problem for you let me know/revert it`
`14:45.32`	`CIA-17`	`03teshnor * r27554 10FuBar_WindFuryFu/ (11 files in 2 dirs):`
`14:45.32`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_WindFuryFu:`
`14:45.32`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed theoretical/actual DPS calculation (should work now!)`
`14:45.33`	`CIA-17`	`- Optimized Gratuity check for weapon buffs (thanks to Adrielle)`
`14:45.33`	`CIA-17`	`- Added a fix for german version to remedy the problem with the Windfury buff check`
`14:45.33`	`CIA-17`	`- Changed directory structure for locale files (ex: Locale/enUS.lua)`
`14:45.35`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated korean (thanks to Sayclub) and german (thanks to Ghoschdi) translations`
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`14:48.23`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Teshnor: it's Ad I R elle and not Ad R I elle, but thx anyway ;)`
`14:49.01`	`Teshnor`	`:/`
`14:49.16`	`Teshnor`	`sorry`
`14:49.25`	`Teshnor`	`Coffee ain't working properly today!`
`14:49.43`	`Teshnor`	`'tis my fifth cup at the moment, and I'm still tired as hell :D`
`14:50.15`	`Adirelle\|work`	`coffe doesn't replace sleep`
`14:50.20`	`Adirelle\|work`	`+e`
`14:50.46`	`arJUna`	`Adirelle\|work: sure it does`
`14:50.53`	`Teshnor`	`arJUna: That's old news :D`
`14:50.57`	`arJUna`	`Adirelle\|work: temporarily at least =)`
`14:51.24`	`Teshnor`	`And attacks on root servers are very common, however not in such a large scale :)`
`14:51.43`	`Teshnor`	`But there's no way they would ever be able to bring them down...`
`14:51.50`	`art3mis`	`http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg <-- updated with the new mazzle art ;)`
`14:52.04`	`Gnarfoz_`	<Funkeh`> 'to be continued' <- sadly, for sg-1 it will be 'wont be continued' :\
`14:52.10`	`Teshnor`	`13 "root servers" <--- Bullshit... There are 13 IP's, but helluva lot more servers :)`
`14:52.19`	`Adirelle\|work`	`arJUna: well, drinking lots of coffee after a short night won't make you as half efficient as if you had a real sleep`
`14:52.43`	`art3mis`	`depends on what his normal sleep time is`
`14:52.58`	`Industrial`	`drink some energy drink, take a 15 min nap`
`14:53.06`	`Industrial`	`you wake up, it kicks in, profit :D`
`14:53.13`	`art3mis`	`in my 20s i used to be able to function at peak with 6-8 hours of sleep every 36 hours`
`14:53.18`	`krka`	`1) drink energy drink`
`14:53.20`	`Teshnor`	`Adirelle\|work: Uhm :) I've been sleeping alot... Too much to be honest, that's why I'm tired`
`14:53.20`	`krka`	`2) ???`
`14:53.24`	`krka`	`3) profit!`
`14:53.25`	`winkiller`	`Teshnor: they are called root servers. no matter ehat physical represnataion`
`14:53.30`	`Industrial`	`krka: you get it.`
`14:53.32`	`art3mis`	`krka is a fark nerd ;)`
`14:53.32`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r27555 10XPBarNone/Core.lua:`
`14:53.32`	`CIA-17`	`XPBarNone:`
`14:53.33`	`CIA-17`	`- Added new rune [needPC] to XP bar. Shows how many percent you need to level.`
`14:53.36`	`Teshnor`	`Adirelle\|work: WEnt to bed at about 02, and woke up at about 12 :P`
`14:53.39`	`krka`	`fark?`
`14:53.44`	`Gnarfoz_`	`fark.com`
`14:53.45`	`art3mis`	`fark.com`
`14:54.12`	`Teshnor`	`winkiller: They are called root servers because they are... But they aren't 13 :)`
`14:54.13`	`krka`	`what's it about?`
`14:54.15`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Teshnor: quallity of sleep depends on your own day/night cycle`
`14:54.28`	`Gnarfoz_`	`winkiller: still, it's not like those are only 13 machines you'd have to DDoS down`
`14:54.28`	`art3mis`	`go there ad watch your life get sucked away even more`
`14:54.29`	`art3mis`	`;)`
`14:54.30`	`Teshnor`	`Adirelle\|work: I don't have a cycle :D`
`14:54.38`	`Teshnor`	`I sleep randomly`
`14:54.49`	`art3mis`	`the root servers are basically global masters`
`14:54.51`	`Gnarfoz_`	`my reverse from the day/night cycle`
`14:54.54`	`art3mis`	`thats about it`
`14:54.56`	`Gnarfoz_`	`which sucks :D`
`14:54.58`	`Teshnor`	`That's what happends when you're on the sicklist and have nothing to do with your time`
`14:55.00`	`Gnarfoz_`	`*my cycle is`
`14:55.02`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Teshnor: that quite bad then...`
`14:55.07`	`winkiller`	`I think it's legal to just name them like that. everybody with theslightest clue can figure the rest`
`14:55.13`	`Teshnor`	`Adirelle\|work: Yeah, tell me about it :P`
`14:55.13`	`winkiller`	`no need for nitpicking :)`
`14:55.34`	`Gnarfoz_`	`headlines like 'internet survives major attack' are just utter bullshit tho.`
`14:55.37`	`art3mis`	`went and saw evil dead the musical last night`
`14:55.41`	`Gnarfoz_`	`hence the nitpicking, I guess`
`14:55.41`	`winkiller`	`that's right`
`14:55.41`	`art3mis`	`it was awesome!`
`14:55.48`	`Teshnor`	`winkiller: Of course it's legal, but it's wrong...`
`14:55.56`	`winkiller`	`depends on the context`
`14:56.09`	`winkiller`	`but as Gnarfoz_ explained, I agree :P`
`14:56.11`	`Teshnor`	`I mean, some of those root IP addresses point to more then 5 countries :)`
`14:56.14`	`Industrial`	`no, depends on the irc channel`
`14:56.14`	`art3mis`	`meh i should prolly get dressed and go to work`
`14:56.18`	`Industrial`	`badoom tisch`
`14:56.22`	`Gnarfoz_`	`Industrial: heh`
`14:56.26`	`Teshnor`	`And one server can't be at two places at the same time ;P`
`14:56.38`	`winkiller`	`that IS nitpicking`
`14:56.49`	`Adirelle\|work`	`~x en fr nitpicking`
`14:56.52`	`winkiller`	`damn, reinstall enabled my capslock again.. where teh hell did I put that reg...`
`14:57.09`	`Industrial`	`~x fr en exigeance`
`14:57.13`	`Teshnor`	`caps-lock is one of the most useless buttons ever made`
`14:57.24`	`winkiller`	`if not the`
`14:57.36`	`Industrial`	`capslock is only good for inputting your cracked keys.`
`14:57.39`	`Teshnor`	`caps-lock is proof of humanity's lazyness :D`
`14:57.40`	`art3mis`	`~x en fr penis`
`14:57.46`	`Industrial`	`lol`
`14:57.54`	`Adirelle\|work`	`what about "scroll lock" ?`
`14:58.01`	`winkiller`	`~x en fr penis`
`14:58.01`	`art3mis`	`neat i didnt know french used copyright symbols in thier words ;P`
`14:58.09`	`winkiller`	`ah, utf8 works now`
`14:58.16`	`Teshnor`	`Adirelle\|work: That button have at least been positioned where it should be`
`14:58.26`	`Teshnor`	`God bless dvorak :D`
`14:58.27`	`art3mis`	`~x en fr bonjour, comme ca va?`
`14:58.37`	`Teshnor`	`qwerty is just mad to use with computers`
`14:58.42`	`art3mis`	`i dont think it works all that well`
`14:58.51`	`Industrial`	`oui`
`14:58.54`	`Adirelle\|work`	`art3mis I think you messed up`
`14:58.57`	`winkiller`	`I have qwertz :P`
`14:59.02`	`art3mis`	`~x fr en bonjour, comme ca va?`
`14:59.05`	`winkiller`	`and I think it's ok`
`14:59.08`	`art3mis`	`yeah just noticed that`
`14:59.16`	`Adirelle\|work`	`~x fr en bonjour, comme ça va?`
`14:59.24`	`Industrial`	`~x en nl bored`
`14:59.30`	`art3mis`	`also does literal appearantly`
`14:59.31`	`Industrial`	`WRONG`
`15:00.33`	`art3mis`	`~x fr en pourquoi est ca vous avez`
`15:00.34`	`Adirelle\|work`	`and btw, the right sentence is "bonjour, comment ça va ?" :)`
`15:00.58`	`art3mis`	`yeah im too lazy to make the proper letters ;P`
`15:01.10`	`art3mis`	`~x fr en pourquoi est-ce vous avez`
`15:01.25`	`Adirelle\|work`	`~x fr en bonjour, comment ça va ?`
`15:01.29`	`art3mis`	`that is the best sounding sentence in french`
`15:01.29`	`Adirelle\|work`	`(just to check purl is right)`
`15:01.37`	`art3mis`	`and it means nothing ;P`
`15:01.50`	`Industrial`	`i dont think french sounds good at all`
`15:02.11`	Funkeh`	`Gnarfoz_ ???`
`15:02.13`	`art3mis`	`bonjour comme ca va == hello, how are you.`
`15:02.23`	`Adirelle\|work`	`that's a point of view, lots of french find german sounds horrible`
`15:02.26`	`Industrial`	`oh dear`
`15:02.30`	`winkiller`	`lol`
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`15:02.39`	`Gnarfoz_`	Funkeh`: yeah?
`15:02.45`	`art3mis`	`german is just too gutteral to be sexy`
`15:02.45`	`winkiller`	`I think it sounds horrible if germans speak French :P`
`15:02.47`	`kenlyric\|work`	`all languages sound pathetic next to Sindarin.`
`15:02.52`	Funkeh`	`won't be continued?`
`15:02.53`	`Industrial`	`im going to Val Cenis to snowboard feb 23`
`15:02.56`	`Industrial`	`kenlyric\|work: loll`
`15:03.06`	`Gnarfoz_`	Funkeh`: sg-1 is over after season 10, the network cancelled it
`15:03.10`	`winkiller`	`Ash nazg gimbatul`
`15:03.16`	Funkeh`	`your kidding`
`15:03.30`	`kenlyric\|work`	`that's not sindarin, you insensitive clod`
`15:03.31`	`winkiller`	`take that, elven sissies`
`15:03.32`	`art3mis`	`im sad they canceled deadwood`
`15:03.41`	`Gnarfoz_`	Funkeh`: i'm not, was announced at the beginning of the last half-season hibernation thing
`15:03.51`	Funkeh`	`:'(`
`15:04.14`	`Gnarfoz_`	`the producers are trying to get around the clause in their contract with the network that forbids them to take the show to another network`
`15:04.16`	`winkiller`	`cancelled Deadwood? oh yeah. Overlord Ror was a nice fellow :/`
`15:04.24`	`Gnarfoz_`	`dunno if anything has come from that`
`15:04.26`	`art3mis`	`laugjh`
`15:04.41`	`Industrial`	`im european and know english and some german and french, and dutch. I tried learning Sindarin some time but only found english <-> sindarin wich makes pronounciation alot harder.`
`15:04.58`	`art3mis`	`yeah the head writer of deadwood started doing another show and it took off, so deadwood stopped production`
`15:05.13`	`art3mis`	`sindarin?`
`15:05.17`	`kenlyric\|work`	`all the elvish language make a lot more sense once you learn how to properly speak latin.`
`15:05.32`	`art3mis`	`nerds`
`15:05.38`	`Gnarfoz_`	`heh, had latin for 8 years at school, learning sindarin/quenya a bit was nice :D`
`15:05.44`	`art3mis`	`you must all learn junkion!`
`15:05.46`	`Industrial`	`we are in an rpg channel here, can you blame us?`
`15:05.49`	`krka`	`hm, no mention of the ???, profit on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fark`
`15:05.51`	`art3mis`	`and the universal greeting`
`15:05.52`	`winkiller`	`I see not much research on latin pronuinciation`
`15:06.00`	`winkiller`	`it's more like guessing as I heard`
`15:06.09`	`art3mis`	`bah weep granna weep nini bon!`
`15:06.33`	`kenlyric\|work`	`we're in a channel, devoted to writing code for an MMORPG. You don't get any nerdier than that.`
`15:06.37`	`Gnarfoz_`	`dude, you have a Darkwing Duck quote in your realname field xD, winkiller`
`15:06.38`	`art3mis`	`krka: its a sig tag from most people`
`15:06.38`	`Gnarfoz_`	`:D`
`15:06.53`	`winkiller`	`Gnarfoz_: nearly.`
`15:07.28`	`Gnarfoz_`	`do my memories deceive me? was it not from there? ;D`
`15:07.49`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I had a friend get these http://207.74.131.12/lopen/tatt.png and I was able to figure out his and his girlfriend's name in about 2 minutes.`
`15:08.06`	`Gnarfoz_`	`hehe`
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`15:08.13`	`krka`	`hm, it comes from SP! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underpants_Gnomes`
`15:08.31`	`winkiller`	`Gnarfoz_: Schatten vs Schrecken`
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`15:08.55`	`Gnarfoz_`	`ah, yes`
`15:09.16`	`winkiller`	`when I was in military service there was one guy who kept his note book in sindarin`
`15:09.22`	`winkiller`	`so that nobody could read his notes`
`15:09.23`	`chutwig\|work`	`that's just nerdly`
`15:09.32`	`Gnarfoz_`	`thats awesome`
`15:09.34`	`Gnarfoz_`	`:D`
`15:09.45`	`chutwig\|work`	`dangerously nerdly`
`15:09.51`	`winkiller`	`he slept without moving an inch.`
`15:10.05`	`chutwig\|work`	`incidentally`
`15:10.07`	`*** join/#wowace Garns (n=blub@muedsl-82-207-225-161.citykom.de)`
`15:10.10`	`winkiller`	`for 2 months he woke up in the same pose as he fell asleep`
`15:10.11`	`chutwig\|work`	`does dreaming glory sell at all on any of your servers`
`15:10.19`	`kenlyric\|work`	`did he write in sindarin words, or sindarin characters?`
`15:10.21`	`kenlyric\|work`	`or both?`
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`15:10.24`	`chutwig\|work`	`because on mine it's apparently the very definition of worthless`
`15:10.29`	`winkiller`	`I don't know`
`15:10.50`	`winkiller`	`chutwig\|work: at least my girlfriend wanted to have mine for alchemy.. no idea about selling`
`15:10.52`	`Pneumatus`	`no idea, Doomwalker just killed me in mid air and i cant get my corpse back`
`15:10.53`	`kenlyric\|work`	`writing in sindarin words would get fruitless pretty fast.`
`15:10.57`	`Adirelle\|work`	`kagaro: I think last change will break things`
`15:10.57`	`vhaarr`	`chutwig: It's the sungrass of TBC.`
`15:11.06`	`kagaro`	`im working on it right now to fix it up`
`15:11.10`	`kenlyric\|work`	`all my plants sell just fine.`
`15:11.13`	`chutwig\|work`	`feh`
`15:11.16`	`kagaro`	`i fired up wow at the office to check it`
`15:11.17`	`chutwig\|work`	`at least you can make super healing pots out of it`
`15:11.17`	`Gnarfoz_`	`sungrass was great for ...something :D`
`15:11.42`	`kenlyric\|work`	`though felweed doesn't sell for very much... a gold or 2 per stack.`
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`15:11.42`	`chutwig\|work`	`i think the market's a little oversaturated with felweed right now`
`15:11.42`	`kenlyric\|work`	`sungrass for superior healing potions, I think.`
`15:11.48`	`Pneumatus`	`dreaming glory is the arathas tears of outlnads`
`15:11.48`	`Adirelle\|work`	`kagaro: well, it was pretty sure the trying to embed/registermemoizations more than once would raise errors`
`15:12.02`	`abbat_w`	`Pnaumatics, same situation for me 2 days ago. I res at spirit healer`
`15:12.04`	`kagaro`	`yeah, im adjusting now`
`15:12.41`	`Adirelle\|work`	`btw, why not just moving it into GP ? I don't see the point of keeping all this mess in core if you disable it`
`15:12.50`	`kenlyric\|work`	`yeah, if you fall off the world or die in a place you can only get to by a mount, you have to rez at spirit healer.`
`15:12.56`	`chutwig\|work`	`yeah`
`15:13.02`	`kenlyric\|work`	`That's why if you die in tempest keep, you come back to the spirit healer alive.`
`15:13.09`	`Pneumatus`	`yeh, there are a couple of exceptions though :)`
`15:13.09`	`chutwig\|work`	`i wasn't watching where i was going last night and went through a bunch of horde flying guards`
`15:13.13`	`chutwig\|work`	`died halfway down a cluff`
`15:13.14`	`chutwig\|work`	`cliff`
`15:13.16`	`winkiller`	`"unstuck my corpse" is missing :P`
`15:13.17`	`Pneumatus`	`like where doom lord kazzak is`
`15:13.23`	`Pneumatus`	`he has a GY up by him`
`15:13.29`	`chutwig\|work`	`fortunately they apparently reduced repair costs because it only cost 12g to fix everything`
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`15:13.45`	`Pneumatus`	`its not really reduced, its just we arent in full tier epics :)`
`15:13.54`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it's 6g or so for gear, but god forbid I have my healing stuff with me too.`
`15:14.22`	`Adirelle\|work`	`I used eye of the beast to throw my pet above world's edge to safely see what were below :D`
`15:14.54`	`Pneumatus`	`Doomwalker has an earthquake skill which kills you even if you are mid air :<`
`15:18.42`	`winkiller`	`anyone got a pic?`
`15:20.47`	`neenee`	`of what?`
`15:20.51`	`winkiller`	`doomwalker`
`15:21.08`	`Pneumatus`	`he looks like a fel reaver`
`15:21.17`	`winkiller`	`ah, wowwiki has one`
`15:21.30`	`winkiller`	`all sites didn't have one..`
`15:21.47`	`neenee`	`http://images.warcry.com/image.php?id=84483`
`15:22.03`	`winkiller`	`thx`
`15:22.09`	`neenee`	`http://images.warcry.com/image.php?id=84494`
`15:22.38`	`evl`	`where exactly is kazzak?`
`15:22.45`	`Pneumatus`	`throne of kil'jaeden`
`15:22.50`	`Pneumatus`	`in hellfire`
`15:22.57`	`evl`	`aha`
`15:23.01`	`evl`	`how do you spawn him?`
`15:23.11`	`Pneumatus`	`you dont, hes just there`
`15:23.25`	`evl`	`not on my server+ :P`
`15:23.34`	`Pneumatus`	`someone killed him perhaps?`
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`15:25.19`	`Gnarfoz_`	`where is Doomwalker, tho?`
`15:25.28`	`Pneumatus`	`shadowmoon`
`15:25.38`	`Gnarfoz_`	`those screenshots look like from the end of beta event, it being in Shattrath an' all`
`15:25.48`	`Gnarfoz_`	`ah alright`
`15:25.52`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r27556 10Cartographer/Cartographer_GuildPositions/GuildPositions.lua: Cartographer/Cartographer_GuildPositions: bugfix for guild positions changes`
`15:25.59`	`Gnarfoz_`	`didn't quest there one bit, don't know my way around that zone :D`
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`15:26.10`	`sbi`	`hello`
`15:26.17`	`Pneumatus`	`he patrols the road at shadowmoon but sits in the black temple also`
`15:26.41`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r27557 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer: changed when configure guild spammer is called, and a way to test it if has been setup yet, not called when guildpositions loads`
`15:27.19`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r27558 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes: added a way to disable note reception/transmission`
`15:28.02`	`kagaro`	`there , now you have a way to turn off note reception/transmission and stop guildpositions`
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`15:28.31`	`CIA-17`	`03lordrhys * r27559 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (3 files): FuBar_FactionItemsFu: 2.1.7, added some more Outland Factions (Aldor,Scryers,Lower City, Sporeggar,Mag'har), made some spelling corrections.`
`15:30.26`	Funkeh`	`is there a slash command for the stuck tool`
`15:30.36`	`kagaro`	`bbiab`
`15:31.59`	`Pneumatus`	Funkeh`: used to be /script Stuck() but its protected now iirc
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`15:36.37`	`mitch0`	`wasn't it /stuck ?`
`15:36.40`	`mitch0`	`or /unstuck?`
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`15:36.58`	`deltron`	`i thought so`
`15:37.42`	`durcyn`	`see also ToggleHelpFrame();`
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`15:38.57`	`[w]nuoHep`	`doomwalker's earthquake is 2k dmg a tick. 4 ticks. so everyone in a raid must have 8k+ hp. kinda easy guy`
`15:39.18`	`deltron`	`ouch`
`15:39.22`	Funkeh`	`easy?`
`15:39.25`	`[w]nuoHep`	`yeah`
`15:39.28`	`Stephmw`	`so that's me dead after two ticks..`
`15:39.29`	Funkeh`	`i flew over him and it was ticking lol`
`15:39.38`	`Stephmw`	`what level is he?`
`15:39.39`	`mitch0`	`how often does he do that?`
`15:39.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`hes a world boss`
`15:39.51`	`Health`	`I got hit for 1.7k ticks?`
`15:40.05`	ag`	`[w]nuoHep: a priest in each group uses group heal, heals everyone for 2,5k`
`15:40.15`	ag`	`:P`
`15:40.21`	Funkeh`	`crit`
`15:40.23`	`Health`	`Hard to heal getting hit at the same time.`
`15:40.30`	ag`	`PW:S`
`15:40.33`	ag`	`:P`
`15:40.38`	Funkeh`	`doesn't take 2k mate`
`15:40.41`	`Health`	`Down in one hit ;)`
`15:40.48`	`Health`	`Too much room for failure.`
`15:41.17`	Funkeh`	`i magine it causes an interupt effect?`
`15:41.17`	`deltron`	`earth shield ftw`
`15:41.17`	`[w]nuoHep`	`ag', yeah. but the thing is that earthquake interrupts casting :p`
`15:41.17`	ag`	`nice`
`15:41.17`	Funkeh`	`thought so`
`15:41.17`	Funkeh`	`need to try him soon`
`15:41.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`so put prayer of mending on everybody`
`15:41.26`	Funkeh`	`erm`
`15:41.28`	Funkeh`	`thats melee`
`15:41.33`	`Health`	`no, any damage`
`15:41.44`	Funkeh`	`pretty sure its melee`
`15:41.48`	`Health`	`At least it doesn't explict says melee`
`15:41.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`perty sure its not`
`15:41.51`	Funkeh`	`that ive noticed anyway`
`15:42.01`	`[w]nuoHep`	`its physical ae`
`15:42.15`	`[w]nuoHep`	`and.. he also has chain lightning`
`15:42.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`priest in my guild was grinding with a warrior using it, when it would jump to him he would SW:D to make it jump back to the warrior`
`15:42.25`	`[w]nuoHep`	`arcs to 10 players max`
`15:42.48`	`[w]nuoHep`	`ive got 1shotted on one of our first attempts for 44k`
`15:42.57`	`Health`	`Nice!`
`15:42.58`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`15:43.10`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27560 10SimpleChatMods/sticky.lua: SimpleChatMods: Disable sticky by default.`
`15:43.22`	`odt`	`what's a popular dmg meters mod? i heard swstats hasnt been updated for 2 months?`
`15:43.43`	Funkeh`	`damage meters suck for accuracy lately`
`15:43.48`	Funkeh`	`decided to quit using them`
`15:43.54`	`odt`	`what do you use?`
`15:43.58`	`odt`	`nothing at all?`
`15:44.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`use otweaks and up your combat log range`
`15:44.08`	`Industrial`	`why do you need one?`
`15:44.15`	`odt`	`i actually just want to see where my dmg comes from`
`15:44.17`	`odt`	`in a nice graph`
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`15:44.23`	Funkeh`	`i think i know how to up my combatlog range manually thanks`
`15:44.27`	Funkeh`	`and no i don't want it upped`
`15:44.37`	`odt`	`what spells, how many crits etc`
`15:44.37`	Funkeh`	`and its innacurate for people in range`
`15:45.10`	Funkeh`	`im sure theres meters out there for self damage`
`15:45.21`	Funkeh`	`but the ones for group damage/healing seem sucky`
`15:47.56`	`Health`	`[w]nuoHep: So.. hardest part is to get everyone 8k+ hp? ;)`
`15:48.35`	`nevcairiel`	`titans for everyone!`
`15:48.48`	Funkeh`	`not really`
`15:48.51`	`Health`	`Well, you have more than that at 70.`
`15:48.54`	Funkeh`	`pretty sure +8khp is easy`
`15:48.56`	`nevcairiel`	`ive even over 8k being a resto druid without any flasks or shit`
`15:49.01`	Funkeh`	`hp foods fops flasks etc`
`15:49.11`	Funkeh`	`pots*`
`15:49.14`	`Industrial`	`so if it interrupts casters how are mages gunna do anything?`
`15:49.24`	`nevcairiel`	`cast while he is not doing it`
`15:49.24`	`nevcairiel`	`:P`
`15:49.25`	`Health`	`He doesn't earh quake all the itme`
`15:49.28`	Funkeh`	`l;ol`
`15:49.33`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`15:49.43`	Funkeh`	`i don't think its realistically doable if he ticks for 2k all the time`
`15:49.59`	`Adirelle\|work`	`there is something weird in last guild positions changes: you actually need to install guild positions to actually disable sending your position...`
`15:50.35`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`15:50.52`	`nevcairiel`	`maybe it just shouldnt send when guildposition isnt installed?`
`15:50.56`	`abbat_w`	`=)`
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`15:51.13`	Funkeh`	`or maybe it should have been left as it was, since it worked fine`
`15:51.16`	`Adirelle\|work`	`or at least be to able to disable this core functionaliy from core...`
`15:51.19`	`joh`	`Right, so Baggins + trading = not working :/`
`15:51.28`	`Industrial`	`why should it know anything about guildposisiton when its not installed?, is my question`
`15:51.30`	`Adirelle\|work`	Funkeh`: that's not a matter of working or not
`15:51.52`	Funkeh`	`why should we change it because people are in idiot guilds?`
`15:51.56`	`Adirelle\|work`	`brb`
`15:51.57`	Funkeh`	`>.>`
`15:52.15`	`nevcairiel`	`its not the idiot guilds, but a feature like that simple should be toggle-able`
`15:52.53`	Funkeh`	`like i said earlier, pretty sure its an acecom problem`
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`15:54.23`	`Proph_`	`is there a way to show the amt of gold you have when using baggins??`
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`15:54.47`	`neenee`	`nope`
`15:54.50`	`neenee`	`Not in Baggins at least`
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`15:56.24`	`vhaarr`	Funkeh`: It's not a AceComm problem, it's how Cart was made.
`15:56.27`	Funkeh`	`shift+b`
`15:56.42`	Funkeh`	`and you get your bas with your gold`
`15:56.45`	Funkeh`	`bags`
`15:56.55`	Funkeh`	`really vhaarr?`
`15:57.05`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`15:57.10`	`vhaarr`	`But kagaro just changed it.`
`15:57.24`	`vhaarr`	`Despite ckknight saying he wanted it to stay like that yesterday.`
`15:57.41`	Funkeh`	`..right`
`15:57.47`	Funkeh`	`i won't get involved in that`
`15:58.22`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah potato's make you fat`
`15:58.38`	`neenee`	`everything makes you fat`
`15:59.04`	`sbi`	`odt, you managed to find a damagermeter-like addon?`
`15:59.35`	`Proph_`	`is there an ACE2 mod like trinketmenu ??`
`15:59.40`	`vhaarr`	`"Ace2".`
`15:59.43`	Funkeh`	`lolol`
`15:59.48`	Funkeh`	`your so lucky ck aint here`
`15:59.49`	`neenee`	`Proph_: nope`
`16:00.12`	Funkeh`	`what makes people want to say ACE`
`16:00.13`	`neenee`	`Proph_: Why would you want an Ace2 Trinketmenu over Trinketmenu?`
`16:00.17`	`krka`	`Proph_: what ace library in particular is it that you want the addon to use?`
`16:00.29`	`Proph_`	`shitload of errors with trinketmenu popping up`
`16:01.34`	`sbi`	Funkeh`, maybe they know the adaptive communication env. library?
`16:01.35`	`abbat_w`	`i have an answer for this question ;)`
`16:01.35`	`neenee`	`Proph_: I get no errors with Trinketmenu and have been using it for months`
`16:01.36`	`abbat_w`	`Because ace2 mean 'fast, small, efficient' ;)`
`16:01.36`	`Proph_`	`what version neenee`
`16:01.36`	`abbat_w`	`Not really mean but ppl think`
`16:01.37`	`Proph_`	`^`
`16:01.40`	`neenee`	`3.6`
`16:02.17`	`winkiller`	`ace2 means: finally something easily updatable :P and mostly has a fubar plugin, and mostly works`
`16:02.25`	`neenee`	`winkiller: Yes, but mainly the first for most people I think`
`16:02.38`	`winkiller`	`maybe :P`
`16:02.55`	`winkiller`	`this is how marketing works`
`16:03.01`	`neenee`	`Proph_: Which version are you using?`
`16:03.25`	`Proph_`	`3.7for BC it says`
`16:03.25`	`sbi`	`i thought marketing was something about being blonde, female, and being cute :p`
`16:03.33`	`Proph_`	`maybe thats y`
`16:04.01`	`neenee`	`ah`
`16:05.11`	`durcyn`	`ACE backronym is "Addon Coded Expertly" btw.`
`16:05.22`	`abbat_w`	`no`
`16:05.24`	`abbat_w`	`it's wrong`
`16:05.30`	`abbat_w`	`But here exists some`
`16:05.43`	`durcyn`	`nah, go look up "backronym" =P`
`16:05.47`	`abbat_w`	`But here exists some 'brand names' which make perfect addons`
`16:05.48`	`art3mis`	`you mean 5'10, redhair curly hair almost to the breasts, green eyes, nice lips, cute little nose, 35b, 26, 36, and stripper legs ;P`
`16:05.48`	`neenee`	`Proph_: I'm not sure where you got that, but 3.6 is the latest released to curse-gaming`
`16:06.05`	`abbat_w`	`Like Ckk, Tekkub, Haste (sorry ppl, don't use anything else) ;)`
`16:06.13`	`sbi`	`art3mis, wtb!`
`16:06.30`	`neenee`	`Proph_: Ah, I think you're using an old version, made for the TBC beta`
`16:06.41`	`art3mis`	`www.foobies.com do a text search for "heather" ;P`
`16:06.42`	`Proph_`	`yah thanks`
`16:06.55`	`abbat_w`	`But for example i'm using ItemRack. It's not aced but this doesn't matter for me. Worked nice, i use it`
`16:06.55`	`neenee`	`Proph_: Though I wonder where you got 3.7, as I only see 3.55 for TBC`
`16:07.06`	Funkeh`	`vhaarr and ammo make very good addons`
`16:07.13`	`abbat_w`	`Ammo, damn`
`16:07.17`	`art3mis`	`thats cuz they're nerds`
`16:07.23`	`art3mis`	`anti makes a good addon too`
`16:07.24`	`abbat_w`	`I forget Ammo. Sure i use oRA2 and BigWigs ;)`
`16:07.39`	`art3mis`	`syl is a wierdo and ckk is too ;P`
`16:08.02`	`abbat_w`	`I don't use to many addons, just a few ;)`
`16:08.12`	`art3mis`	`i lurv my new ui`
`16:08.23`	`art3mis`	`lets hear it for art and unitframe theft!`
`16:08.26`	`abbat_w`	`And for sure my addons uses libs from another skilled authors. I just don't know who code it`
`16:08.28`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`wut now?`
`16:08.34`	`deltron`	`art3mis: eh?`
`16:08.35`	`art3mis`	`just saying you make a good addon`
`16:08.46`	`art3mis`	`http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg`
`16:08.56`	`art3mis`	`i stole mazzles unitframes and panel art ;P`
`16:08.58`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Heheh, ok.`
`16:09.04`	`art3mis`	`speaking of though anti`
`16:09.09`	`art3mis`	`still been busy?`
`16:09.15`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Yeah`
`16:09.17`	`deltron`	`nice`
`16:09.18`	`abbat_w`	`Ergh...`
`16:09.21`	`sbi`	`art3mis, woah, resolution? 1600x1200 ?`
`16:09.21`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I logged in for 5 minutes yesterday to check my mail`
`16:09.25`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Other than that, sorry. :)`
`16:09.27`	`art3mis`	`1640x1050`
`16:09.30`	Funkeh`	`http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3013/wowscrnshot020407185919sy5.jpg`
`16:09.33`	`sbi`	`geez =)`
`16:09.37`	`abbat_w`	`Why you like to put black textures at bottom of the screen?`
`16:09.41`	`art3mis`	`Antiarc\|Work: no worries whenever you get around to it ;P`
`16:09.45`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`1920x1200 FTW. >_>`
`16:09.48`	`art3mis`	`im a diablo person`
`16:09.53`	Funkeh`	`not really`
`16:09.56`	Funkeh`	`i usually fraps`
`16:09.57`	`art3mis`	`i cant stand having shit in the play field`
`16:10.04`	Funkeh`	`so need a small resolution :)`
`16:10.19`	`abbat_w`	`I think it's bad because you have smaller screen size for render world`
`16:10.55`	`art3mis`	`nah it's better in the long run`
`16:11.02`	`abbat_w`	`Don't sure i play on 1280 x 1024 and i need all my screen for render. Can't cut part of it for black textured chat/bars`
`16:11.03`	`art3mis`	`nothing cluttering up the field of view`
`16:11.25`	`sbi`	`well, i have a small gap on the bottom, but i'm using aperture :E`
`16:11.29`	Funkeh`	`my screen isn't cluttered Oo`
`16:11.33`	`art3mis`	`mine was mostly the same when i had 1280x1024`
`16:11.46`	`art3mis`	`except that it didnt have a box at the bottom`
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`16:11.53`	`art3mis`	`but the play field was totally free of stuff`
`16:12.10`	`art3mis`	`aperature is a nice addon`
`16:12.25`	`abbat_w`	`and this is not PvP UI i think ;)`
`16:12.38`	`art3mis`	`i love the idea of being able to block out the viewable and have room for other crap thats not in the play field`
`16:12.49`	`art3mis`	`abbat_w: which mine?`
`16:12.49`	`sbi`	`art3mis, same here =)`
`16:12.49`	`kagaro`	`well if ck wants to change it back its a 5 line change to put guildpositions back to previous functionality`
`16:12.54`	`copystring__`	`anyone else has problems with agUF atm?`
`16:12.57`	`abbat_w`	`art3mis, yeah.`
`16:12.58`	`art3mis`	`nadda`
`16:13.09`	`art3mis`	`abbat_w: actually it is, it's my general ui for everything ;P`
`16:13.10`	`winkiller`	Funkeh`: how can you read that snall font?
`16:13.24`	Funkeh`	`tbh`
`16:13.28`	Funkeh`	`it looks somewhat bigger in game`
`16:13.42`	`art3mis`	`mazzlefizz.wowinterface.com btw if you want the mazzle ui that mines modded from`
`16:13.50`	`abbat_w`	`art3mis: don't sure again but if you play pvp to much you generally look at center of the screen`
`16:14.06`	`art3mis`	`im a priest`
`16:14.11`	`art3mis`	`i look everywhere ;P`
`16:14.12`	`sbi`	`:D`
`16:14.15`	`abbat_w`	`Ah`
`16:14.17`	`abbat_w`	`Priest...`
`16:14.18`	`Idylla`	`btw <3 the person that made automaton hand in single and multi sunfury signets =)`
`16:14.19`	`abbat_w`	`;)`
`16:14.26`	`sbi`	`art3mis, you mean, while dead? lol`
`16:14.42`	`art3mis`	`hehe while ive got a HUGE bullseye on my body ;P`
`16:14.46`	`art3mis`	`im also shadow`
`16:14.52`	`art3mis`	`we die but not that easily ;P`
`16:15.02`	`abbat_w`	`Pirest == 'killer in white hospital gown" =)`
`16:15.03`	`sbi`	`and scryer, so you are not planning to respec holy/disc :p`
`16:15.09`	`abbat_w`	`priest even ;)`
`16:15.12`	`art3mis`	`nope`
`16:15.19`	`art3mis`	`but im also gonna take mooncloth`
`16:15.29`	`art3mis`	`so if i do spec holy/disc im set;P`
`16:15.35`	`sbi`	`ehhe`
`16:15.43`	`art3mis`	`those 3 pieces of moon are around 350+healing`
`16:15.52`	`art3mis`	`and right now im sitting at 475/475`
`16:15.58`	`sbi`	`i quit my priest in tbc :\| changed back to my old mage! much fun :)`
`16:16.06`	`art3mis`	`without touching blades edge shadowmoon netherstorm`
`16:16.15`	`neenee`	`sbi: Go shadow`
`16:16.29`	`sbi`	`neenee, nah, gone arcane/frost :)`
`16:16.30`	`art3mis`	`the new shadow stuff is great fun`
`16:16.36`	`art3mis`	`but invis is hard to pass up ;)`
`16:16.39`	Funkeh`	`you can't defy the holy dps`
`16:16.39`	`neenee`	`sbi: I meant with the priest ofcourse ;)`
`16:16.41`	`abbat_w`	`sbi, go fire/frost ;)`
`16:16.41`	`sbi`	`neenee, btw, i prefer 40holy even for pvp :)`
`16:16.46`	`abbat_w`	`best build for mage ;)`
`16:16.48`	`neenee`	`sbi: :)`
`16:16.51`	`sbi`	`abbat_w, i was elemental for a long time :)`
`16:16.53`	`neenee`	`I'm thinking of going Holy too`
`16:16.58`	`art3mis`	`holy is good for steady grinding`
`16:17.00`	Funkeh`	`you wanna go arcane`
`16:17.10`	`art3mis`	`sahdow is good for fast killing`
`16:17.13`	`abbat_w`	`sbi, why you change elemental to another build?`
`16:17.21`	Funkeh`	`yeah i respeced holy dps for 60-70`
`16:17.22`	`art3mis`	`disc is good for sitting at the inn bitching about your spec ;P`
`16:17.23`	Funkeh`	`was good`
`16:17.29`	`sbi`	`abbat_w, spellpower + ice lance is good :)`
`16:17.40`	`sbi`	`+ ice block + shatter :D`
`16:17.43`	`art3mis`	`hehe im at about 310dps`
`16:17.43`	`abbat_w`	`i play in elemental build about a month and i can't change it ;) like block, shatter and fire ;)`
`16:17.56`	`art3mis`	`and in shadow i healed for a free thrall run ;P`
`16:18.01`	`art3mis`	`with a shaman as backup healer`
`16:18.09`	`art3mis`	`no-one died`
`16:18.12`	`abbat_w`	`Much better for me then pom+pyro for example ;)`
`16:18.21`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it's easy to shadow heal if you have a backup healer.`
`16:18.25`	`art3mis`	`but off to work i go ciao kiddies`
`16:18.27`	`sbi`	`art3mis, say it, "i do melt faces" =)`
`16:18.34`	`neenee`	`art3mis: do it without a backup healer :P`
`16:18.37`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it's less easy to deal with spike damage when in shadowform.`
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`16:18.52`	`art3mis`	`kenlyric\|work: heh yeah but we didnt get hurt all that much plus my vt pain and ve tick for about +300health ;P`
`16:19.17`	`sbi`	`abbat_w, yeah i like it, elemental has many fine builds, arc/frost is funny too atm btw :)`
`16:19.18`	`kenlyric\|work`	`once thrall comes out it's a lot easier to go shadow healing.`
`16:19.20`	`art3mis`	`heh i did it out of shadow as the healer and dps too ;P`
`16:19.21`	`neenee`	`art3mis: Whatever you say now, you still did it with a backup healer :P`
`16:19.24`	`kenlyric\|work`	`since his health resets when he goes out of combat.`
`16:19.28`	`art3mis`	`yup`
`16:19.30`	`art3mis`	`i did`
`16:19.41`	`neenee`	`art3mis: So to me, it went well because of the backup, not because of shadow priest stuff ;)`
`16:19.43`	`abbat_w`	`heh, maybe it's time to change...`
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`16:19.53`	`kenlyric\|work`	`except he's also an idiot, and frequently double pulls.`
`16:20.01`	`art3mis`	`and chases`
`16:20.06`	`art3mis`	`that fucker chases REALLY bad`
`16:20.13`	`sbi`	`kenlyric\|work, he pulls my sheeps! i hate him :p`
`16:20.25`	`kenlyric\|work`	`he seemed pretty smart about sheeps to me.`
`16:20.26`	`abbat_w`	`=)))))))`
`16:20.29`	`abbat_w`	`Hahahha ;)`
`16:20.29`	`kenlyric\|work`	`he'd go to them last.`
`16:20.32`	`art3mis`	`he's sheep smart now`
`16:20.38`	`art3mis`	`he didnt used to be`
`16:20.51`	`sbi`	`kenlyric\|work, iit seems that if you have 1 trap 1 sheep he allways goes for the sheep :p`
`16:20.55`	`sbi`	`damn orc :p`
`16:21.05`	`abbat_w`	`lol ;)`
`16:21.12`	`kenlyric\|work`	`he bugged on me yesterday, so I'm still pissed at him`
`16:21.18`	`abbat_w`	`Mages hate everyone who break sheep ;)`
`16:21.59`	`sbi`	`obv :P`
`16:23.21`	`neenee`	`I'm thinking of this Holy build: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bgMbzhxzbZfxt0frqbZx`
`16:23.32`	`Adirelle\|work`	`I still think it is weird to have to load GP THEN disable it to have position disabled :/`
`16:23.48`	`sbi`	`surge of light! lamer :P`
`16:23.54`	`Adirelle\|work`	`s/position/position broadcasting/`
`16:24.13`	`sbi`	`neenee, you want to go for spiritual healing if you go that deep into holy imho`
`16:24.55`	`neenee`	`sbi: But then I'll lose the spirit buff`
`16:24.58`	`neenee`	`or the extra mana`
`16:25.23`	`sbi`	`yeah i know :D take it as: 10% healed more = 10% less mana spent healing`
`16:25.34`	`sbi`	`obv, unless you want to be a smiter :D`
`16:25.52`	`neenee`	`Well, I want to be a bit of both :\|`
`16:26.08`	`sbi`	`eheh :) i know but.. imho you have to chose :\|`
`16:26.11`	`neenee`	`At the moment I'm levelling - level 66`
`16:26.14`	`neenee`	`:(`
`16:26.22`	`sbi`	`smiter = reflective shield + power infusion`
`16:26.31`	`sbi`	`healer = 40 holy w/ spiritual healing`
`16:26.52`	`neenee`	`hm.`
`16:27.01`	`sbi`	`just my opinion .D`
`16:27.04`	`neenee`	`reflective shield doesn't seem to useful in instances though`
`16:27.12`	`kenlyric\|work`	`40 holy?`
`16:27.17`	`sbi`	`neenee, nor a smiter :)`
`16:27.20`	`kenlyric\|work`	`egads, who would put 40 pooints in holy?`
`16:27.48`	`sbi`	`kenlyric\|work, i did pretbc, i would now if i was playing my priest :)`
`16:28.11`	`sbi`	`2700 flash heal is good even in pvp eheh`
`16:28.12`	`kenlyric\|work`	`that's insane!`
`16:28.23`	`kenlyric\|work`	`no divine spirit makes me a sad panda.`
`16:28.29`	`sbi`	`ahah :)`
`16:28.31`	`sbi`	`true`
`16:28.34`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27561 10ClosetGnome_Gatherer/ClosetGnome_Gatherer.lua: ClosetGnome_Gatherer: Update to 2.0 events.`
`16:28.53`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I chose human for my second priest for a reason :)`
`16:29.04`	`sbi`	`i'm horde :\|`
`16:29.18`	`neenee`	`sbi: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=dgMbzhxzbZfxt0fbVVZx`
`16:29.21`	`abbat_w`	`humans have terrible animation`
`16:29.27`	`abbat_w`	`especially human male`
`16:29.28`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I'm honestly having trouble deciding on the end of the holy tree. I know I'll spend 28 points, just not sure where.`
`16:29.32`	`abbat_w`	`undedad much better`
`16:29.40`	`kenlyric\|work`	`abbat_w: agreed, that's why I chose female, though it wasn't much better.`
`16:29.46`	`neenee`	`abbat_w: Tell me about it. I prefer to see females move than males as well.`
`16:29.49`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I vastly prefer night elf male for overall looks.`
`16:29.54`	`sbi`	`neenee, same here! eheh`
`16:29.56`	`abbat_w`	`Sure`
`16:29.59`	`kenlyric\|work`	`They look awesome in dresses`
`16:29.59`	`neenee`	`:)`
`16:30.07`	`kenlyric\|work`	`those ABS!`
`16:30.08`	`abbat_w`	`Females move much better then males ;)`
`16:30.22`	`abbat_w`	`Look at jumping human male ;) It's just a lol ;)`
`16:30.30`	`sbi`	`neenee, seems good to me`
`16:30.53`	`neenee`	`hm`
`16:30.58`	`neenee`	`maybe`
`16:31.02`	`kenlyric\|work`	`that's the real reason blood elves are like they are... the devs couldn't stand that humans were the gayest race in azeroth.`
`16:31.16`	`abbat_w`	`ahah, yep ;)`
`16:31.35`	`sbi`	`neenee, pretbc, we used to divide priest to disc/holy, our holy priest did never get improved fortitude`
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`16:31.50`	`neenee`	`ah`
`16:31.59`	`kenlyric\|work`	`sbi: I'd like to not get improved fort.`
`16:32.12`	`kenlyric\|work`	`let those damn holy priests buff it.`
`16:32.12`	`sbi`	`kenlyric\|work, eheh`
`16:32.37`	`abbat_w`	`ok, time to go to home`
`16:32.38`	`abbat_w`	`cya ppl`
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`16:36.52`	`neenee`	`cya`
`16:38.07`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27562 10ClosetGnome_Gatherer/ClosetGnome_Gatherer.lua: ClosetGnome_Gatherer: Bugfix.`
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`16:48.51`	`neenee`	`lol.`
`16:49.37`	`neenee`	`http://www.flabberm.nl/2007/02/filmpjes/thriller_bruiloft <-- people at a wedding doing the dance from 'Thriller' by Michael Jackson`
`16:51.36`	`neenee`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colletto_Fava`
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`17:10.33`	`Gnarfoz_`	`what's the WAU-channel again`
`17:10.34`	`Gnarfoz_`	`?`
`17:10.39`	`Adirelle\|work`	`wau ?`
`17:11.03`	`Gnarfoz_`	`WowAceUpdater, it's in the topic ;)`
`17:11.16`	`Gnarfoz_`	`brr`
`17:11.38`	`Gnarfoz_`	`sylvanaar: you didn't do to oRA2 what you did to cart, WAU package-wise, did you? -.-`
`17:11.53`	`Adirelle\|work`	`I think he did`
`17:12.04`	`Gnarfoz_`	`omg, two addons to update manually now`
`17:12.11`	`Gnarfoz_`	`what the fuck, that should be optional >_>`
`17:12.40`	`Gnarfoz_`	`hm no, last commit was from ammo`
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`17:15.37`	Funkeh`	`?`
`17:15.42`	Funkeh`	`why?`
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`17:21.25`	`Gnarfoz_`	Funkeh`: why what?
`17:21.34`	`CIA-17`	`03benumbed * r27563 10Epeen/: Epeen - Fixed Externals`
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`17:23.27`	`Gnarfoz_`	`instead of having sub-directories for all modules, now both oRA and Cartographer are extracted to separate, LoD enabled, addon folders, instead of just being modules of the respective addon. polluting the addon dir as well as the ingame addon list... and then you're mocked with a 'makelod.bat' file, which should be a 'returntonormal.bat' ";\|`
`17:23.58`	`[Ammo]`	`Gnarfoz: go and use CTRA and begone`
`17:23.58`	`Gnarfoz_`	`(all this is only happening through WAU, tho, but still, I sense many people are updating this way ^^)`
`17:23.58`	`[Ammo]`	`bye`
`17:24.04`	`Gnarfoz_`	`[Ammo]: yeah right...`
`17:24.13`	`Gnarfoz_`	`because I said ANYTHING about oRA itself`
`17:24.17`	`[Ammo]`	`or read the fooking readme`
`17:24.27`	`[Ammo]`	`create an oRA2.nounpack folder`
`17:24.30`	`[Ammo]`	`in your addons folder`
`17:24.31`	`[Ammo]`	`and you're done`
`17:24.32`	`[Ammo]`	`now shoo`
`17:24.34`	`[Ammo]`	`whinger`
`17:24.35`	`Gnarfoz_`	`like with cosmos addons?`
`17:24.38`	`Gnarfoz_`	`-.-`
`17:24.42`	`Industrial`	`Gnarfoz_: "polluting the addon dir" ?`
`17:25.04`	`Gnarfoz_`	`Industrial: 26 folders instead of 2?`
`17:25.05`	`Gnarfoz_`	`:p`
`17:25.12`	`Industrial`	`imho all modules should be out of the addon dir`
`17:25.22`	`Industrial`	`nt just a few`
`17:25.26`	`Industrial`	`but we have been over that`
`17:25.27`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`17:25.43`	Funkeh`	`seriously`
`17:25.50`	Funkeh`	`make we scrap wau`
`17:25.54`	Funkeh`	`make everyone update manually`
`17:26.09`	Funkeh`	`maybe*`
`17:26.18`	`sbi`	`seriously! i need a tool to update manually! =)`
`17:26.23`	Funkeh`	`you make a tool to help people to be lazy and all they do is bitch more`
`17:26.30`	`[Ammo]`	`use browser, download zips`
`17:26.32`	`[Ammo]`	`it's not hard`
`17:26.33`	`Industrial`	`"web browser"`
`17:26.35`	`[Ammo]`	`now shoo`
`17:26.37`	`Gnarfoz_`	`[Ammo]: oh and btw, which fucking readme would that be? seeing there isn't one with oRA?`
`17:26.47`	`[Ammo]`	`there should be one with wau`
`17:26.48`	`Gnarfoz_`	`:D`
`17:26.50`	`[Ammo]`	`that explains it`
`17:26.55`	`Gnarfoz_`	`WAU has one, it says nothing of this topic`
`17:26.58`	`[Ammo]`	`but you're just a typical user`
`17:27.09`	`Gnarfoz_`	`ah, I am?`
`17:27.16`	`mok`	`ckknight: could you please make the continent names in cartographer clickable or add another way view the continent map without unlocking cartographer?`
`17:27.18`	Funkeh`	`yes`
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`17:27.21`	Funkeh`	`never satisfied`
`17:27.27`	`Gnarfoz_`	`ah, and how'd you figure that out? xD`
`17:27.29`	`sbi`	`Gnarfoz_, don't trust him, you are not tipical! you are special :p`
`17:27.38`	`[Ammo]`	`mok: rightclick untill you're up tot the continent`
`17:27.52`	`Benumbed`	`ammo, cant do it if its locked`
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`17:27.56`	`mok`	`it wont work if its locked, [Ammo]`
`17:28.00`	`Gnarfoz_`	`(so, me being a developer myself does not count, does it, because you're just... like linux channel guys? :D)`
`17:28.06`	`Silverstorm`	`hold down Alt...temp-unlocks the map`
`17:28.09`	Funkeh`	`i think thats the point of lock`
`17:28.11`	`Benumbed`	`if locked, it ignores all click`
`17:28.19`	`mok`	`i like to run around with cart opened, scaled down and folly transparent`
`17:28.20`	`Benumbed`	`lock is so you cant move it`
`17:28.29`	Funkeh`	`no`
`17:28.35`	Funkeh`	`there was an issue with this earlier`
`17:28.40`	Funkeh`	`its not so you can't move it`
`17:28.41`	`mok`	`i have to lock it, so the transparent sections wont interfere with clicking things in the game worl`
`17:28.45`	Funkeh`	`it so you can click on it`
`17:28.46`	`[Ammo]`	`oh huh`
`17:28.49`	Funkeh`	`like metamap etc`
`17:28.57`	`Benumbed`	`bleh`
`17:29.00`	`[Ammo]`	`I use default carto settings`
`17:29.03`	`[Ammo]`	`and rightclick`
`17:29.08`	`[Ammo]`	`so dunno`
`17:29.27`	`winkiller`	`lol Gnarfoz_, that linux channel thing :P`
`17:29.28`	`Benumbed`	`default settings work ammo, but if you lock it...it will ignore any click`
`17:29.29`	`sbi`	`[Ammo] didn't read the readme!`
`17:29.32`	`Benumbed`	`but guess its not a bug`
`17:29.38`	`Gnarfoz_`	`sbi: maybe because there is none? :D`
`17:29.43`	`sbi`	`Gnarfoz_, lol!`
`17:29.55`	`sbi`	`Gnarfoz_, that's a good point!`
`17:30.18`	`Gnarfoz_`	`it wasn't when he was berating me about something`
`17:30.42`	`mok`	`i think either way it would just be consistent to have the possibility to select continents through the menu, too :P`
`17:30.58`	`sbi`	`mok, it's that useful? :p`
`17:30.59`	`[Ammo]`	`it's just the whinging that goes on about addons, features, wau and updating`
`17:31.06`	`[Ammo]`	`it is _never_ enough`
`17:31.09`	`Gnarfoz_`	`did you mean 'whining?`
`17:31.15`	`[Ammo]`	`no whinging`
`17:31.19`	`sbi`	`you mean "wining" ?`
`17:31.19`	`mok`	`sbi: what do you mean?`
`17:31.21`	`[Ammo]`	`I mean the extra g`
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`17:31.38`	`winkiller`	`lol`
`17:31.42`	`sbi`	`mok, i use the map really... seldom`
`17:31.43`	`neenee`	`or whining`
`17:31.58`	`Gnarfoz_`	`aha, so I was annoying or persistent in my complaint/protest (going from the definition of the word)?`
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`17:32.11`	`Gnarfoz_`	`more likely annoying because I just asked once xD`
`17:32.20`	`[Ammo]`	`well oRA/Bigwigs were made to be made automatically LoD on request`
`17:32.28`	`[Ammo]`	`and now someone starts complaining again they shouldn't`
`17:32.32`	`Gnarfoz_`	`huh? no`
`17:32.54`	`mok`	`i do track my guildies to help them find things i.E`
`17:33.06`	`sbi`	`mok, oh i see :E`
`17:33.08`	`Gnarfoz_`	`(oh alright, yes - english sentence structure is ambigous)`
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`17:33.14`	`mok`	`or make up shortest ways from on ore to another while gathering`
`17:34.13`	`Gnarfoz_`	`so you give way to a complaint about it not being LoD, but a complaint about the other way is just annoying? :D (I can understand your harshness, now that you said it was like this only because someone requested it to be)`
`17:34.14`	Funkeh`	`i don't understand whats wiht people and this 'must keep addons folder clean'`
`17:34.26`	Funkeh`	`i couldnt care if i had teh whole ace repository on my addons folder`
`17:34.33`	Funkeh`	`as long as only what i wanted loaded`
`17:34.56`	Funkeh`	`thats why blizzard introduced the 'addons selection menu'`
`17:35.03`	`winkiller`	`I personally hate it, when I disable stuff for some chars`
`17:35.11`	`Gnarfoz_`	`so you don't think many small files have an impact on your file system?`
`17:35.18`	Funkeh`	`no`
`17:35.41`	Funkeh`	`i don't think 5gb of addons or whatever will make baby jesus cry on my 200gb HD`
`17:36.02`	`Gnarfoz_`	`nothing to do with space, anyway`
`17:36.03`	`Gnarfoz_`	`but blah`
`17:36.26`	`Gnarfoz_`	`I already know it's not going to change, so I'll just live with it :p`
`17:36.46`	`[Ammo]`	`you can add one single folder per addon you don't want to be lod with wau`
`17:36.48`	`[Ammo]`	`and you're dojne`
`17:36.55`	`Gnarfoz_`	`(just like WONTFIX bugs in Mozilla that have been unresolved for 5 years and just ask for a damn "print" option in the context menu xD)`
`17:37.05`	Funkeh`	`bugs?`
`17:37.07`	Funkeh`	`what bugs?`
`17:37.20`	`Gnarfoz_`	`[Ammo]: thanks, I just said I'd do that (=live with it ^^), now that you pointed me to that (seemingly) undocumented feature ;)`
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`17:37.48`	`sbi`	`Gnarfoz_, when a bug is older than 2 years, it's a feature!`
`17:38.07`	`Gnarfoz_`	`sbi: can a lack of a feature become a feature itself? ponder :p`
`17:38.11`	`kenlyric\|work`	`if it's marked WONTFIX, it's not a bug.`
`17:38.22`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it's a feature request that has been denied.`
`17:38.23`	`vhaarr`	`Yes it is.`
`17:38.27`	`vhaarr`	`ah, true`
`17:38.45`	`sbi`	`Gnarfoz_, sure :D you feature the lack of analysis on usecases =)`
`17:38.57`	`sbi`	`lol`
`17:39.29`	`winkiller`	`Gnarfoz_: see windows.`
`17:39.30`	`Gnarfoz_`	`kenlyric\|work: they say their bugzilla is not for feature requests in the first place, anyway (in this case)`
`17:39.37`	`Gnarfoz_`	`winkiller: heh`
`17:39.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`Gnarfoz_: you talking about the file menu or the right click menu?`
`17:39.48`	`kenlyric\|work`	`right, which is why they have the WONTFIX tag.`
`17:39.50`	`Gnarfoz_`	`Arrowmaster: right click context menu`
`17:40.02`	`Gnarfoz_`	`kenlyric\|work: still? it's fucking ANNOYING :p`
`17:40.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah thats just a silly feature request`
`17:40.23`	`kenlyric\|work`	`how else should they classify things they won't fix?`
`17:40.29`	`kenlyric\|work`	`wontfix seems very reasonable to me.`
`17:40.37`	`Gnarfoz_`	`they should FIX it -.-`
`17:40.41`	Funkeh`	`fuckoffdontbugmeaboutititsnotbeingadded`
`17:40.45`	Funkeh`	`that would work`
`17:40.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`all browsers have a print option in the file menu and thats where people go when they want to print something, id be annoyed if i had a print in my right click menu`
`17:40.53`	`winkiller`	`BOGUS is much worse than WONTFIX`
`17:41.02`	`Gnarfoz_`	`Arrowmaster: pray-tell HOW do you print pop-up windows?`
`17:41.03`	`Gnarfoz_`	`:p`
`17:41.04`	`sbi`	Funkeh`, i think FUCK could work too =)
`17:41.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`Gnarfoz_: easy`
`17:41.17`	`Gnarfoz_`	`ctrl+p?`
`17:41.19`	`winkiller`	`as many, many devs seem to be blind, deaf, dumb monkeys when it comes to accepting bugs`
`17:41.27`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Gnarfoz_: write a browser that doesn't allow people to hide the menu in popup windows.`
`17:41.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`you actually enable the features that prevent javascript from taking over your browser`
`17:41.44`	`Gnarfoz_`	`kenlyric\|work: that suggestion would be filed under: get real`
`17:41.53`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Gnarfoz_: or just use firefox.`
`17:42.06`	`sbi`	`winkiller, well, adding more bugs is funnier than moving old ones, i think everybody agrees in this`
`17:42.06`	`Gnarfoz_`	`kenlyric\|work: huh? my example IS about firefox? oO`
`17:42.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah mozilla/firefox dont let javascript take control of your browser if you dont want it to`
`17:42.18`	`Gnarfoz_`	`so?`
`17:42.21`	`kenlyric\|work`	`firefox doesn't allow popup makers to force hiding of the menu.`
`17:42.34`	`kenlyric\|work`	`unless you let it.`
`17:42.38`	`winkiller`	`sbi: depends. I talk more about the "works for me, you idiot" - it lacks ACCEPTING there ARE bugs at all :)`
`17:42.44`	`Gnarfoz_`	`if you mean by 'not allow forcing', you mean 'enable a non-default option to make it not allow forcing'`
`17:43.35`	`Gnarfoz_`	`I digress, I myself can deal with all that stuff easily, but in many open source projects people tend to deny the existance of something like 'the average user'`
`17:43.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`in mozilla its under preferences->advanced->scripts&plugins`
`17:43.42`	`kenlyric\|work`	`my browser opens popups in a new tab, so I they get the menu anyway.`
`17:44.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`hehe me too kenlyric\|work`
`17:44.21`	`Gnarfoz_`	`me three`
`17:44.21`	`Gnarfoz_`	`-.-`
`17:44.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`fucking hate sites that design around popup windows`
`17:44.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`and javascript`
`17:44.29`	`sbi`	`Gnarfoz_, ehhe`
`17:44.29`	Funkeh`	`they, are usualy websites, you should not be visiting ;)`
`17:44.48`	`kenlyric\|work`	`and also my bank.`
`17:44.57`	`Arrowmaster`	`my college website does a popup for session expiring`
`17:44.58`	`Gnarfoz_`	`heh, still, in REALITY where we people live, those websites might just be the ones you HAVE to visit to get something done/whatever`
`17:45.51`	`sbi`	`if my bank uses a popup on their site, i would change my bank ^^`
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`17:46.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`same`
`17:46.21`	`sbi`	`that's not for the popup per se`
`17:46.33`	`CIA-17`	`03teshnor * r27564 10FuTextures/ (FuTextures.lua deepcave.tga):`
`17:46.33`	`CIA-17`	`FuTextures`
`17:46.33`	`CIA-17`	`- Added new texture 'deepcave.tga'`
`17:46.41`	`Gnarfoz_`	`even if you chose the bank previously because it had HBCI homebanking and no account fees?`
`17:47.08`	`sbi`	`Gnarfoz_, i usually don't trust much "free" things`
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`17:47.15`	`Gnarfoz_`	`err right`
`17:47.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`my 'free' back account keeps getting disabled because i dont spend the money`
`17:47.43`	`kenlyric\|work`	`heh... this bug is still new :) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209181`
`17:48.01`	`neenee`	`*bank`
`17:48.05`	`neenee`	`or back?`
`17:48.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah bank`
`17:48.26`	`neenee`	`oki :)`
`17:48.53`	`sbi`	`Gnarfoz_, free drug is wellcome btw!`
`17:49.01`	`sbi`	`lol`
`17:49.25`	`Gnarfoz_`	`yeah, go up to .be or .nl for that, please`
`17:49.26`	`Gnarfoz_`	`:p`
`17:49.43`	`sbi`	`.be?`
`17:49.56`	`neenee`	`belgium`
`17:50.08`	`sbi`	`oh, drugs are legal in belgium?`
`17:50.15`	`sbi`	`i didn't know :D`
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`17:51.01`	`Gnarfoz_`	`dunno`
`17:51.02`	`Gnarfoz_`	`:P`
`17:51.40`	`sbi`	`:p`
`17:51.46`	`sbi`	`going back home :)`
`17:51.53`	`sbi`	`se you guys`
`17:52.12`	`neenee`	`cya`
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`17:55.31`	`mjc`	`http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=277578`
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`17:57.49`	`cncfanatics`	`yo all`
`17:58.06`	`neenee`	`Hi cncfanatics`
`17:59.06`	`neenee`	`Does anyone know of some priest-forums or such, other than the horrible messy and slow official forums?`
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`17:59.59`	`kenlyric\|work`	`no.`
`18:00.03`	`neenee`	`:\|`
`18:00.08`	ag`	`I think there's wow healers or something`
`18:00.12`	`neenee`	`hm`
`18:00.15`	`neenee`	`googles that`
`18:00.20`	ag`	`but the biggest userbase is on the official forums`
`18:00.32`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I can't find useful priest information from anywhere. :)`
`18:00.33`	`neenee`	`Yea, too bad that userbase is partly filled with spammers and complainers`
`18:00.43`	`winkiller`	`partly? lol`
`18:00.47`	`kenlyric\|work`	`partly is being very generous, I think.`
`18:01.03`	`neenee`	`Well, I try to be careful with what I say :)`
`18:01.13`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I'm lucky if 10% of hte priests I run across actually like being healers.`
`18:01.46`	`winkiller`	`I plan on speccing heal at 70 :P (druid)`
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`18:02.00`	`neenee`	`I enjoy it, it's why I started a priest, but it can get boring at times. So I went shadow. But now I'm looking in going back to healing, though with some damage mixed in.`
`18:02.04`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I'm going to spec back to healing when my guild goes into kharazan in 10 days.`
`18:02.14`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I went shadow only to quest. I hate it.`
`18:02.19`	`kenlyric\|work`	`all that bothersome mob targeting.`
`18:02.21`	`winkiller`	`I love feral`
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`18:02.33`	`neenee`	`mm... feral priests`
`18:02.34`	`winkiller`	`I hit 60 yesterday. and used my 3rd! res ever`
`18:02.36`	`neenee`	`foams at the mouth`
`18:02.55`	`winkiller`	`I even once healed in AQ20 at 56`
`18:02.59`	`kenlyric\|work`	`neenee: stack agility gear and you become a feral priest :)`
`18:03.10`	`winkiller`	`but it looked fun :P`
`18:03.11`	`neenee`	`kenlyric\|work: ;)`
`18:03.20`	`winkiller`	`don't like clothies, so no priest for mew`
`18:03.22`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I hope they never fix that bug :)`
`18:03.22`	`neenee`	`kenlyric\|work: spirit and strength no doubt ;)`
`18:03.39`	`neenee`	`What bug?`
`18:03.42`	`kenlyric\|work`	`nah, agility adds to wand damage :)`
`18:03.46`	`KarlThePagan`	`lol wut`
`18:03.49`	`neenee`	`oh, I didn't know`
`18:03.56`	`KarlThePagan`	`lololololololololol`
`18:04.00`	`kenlyric\|work`	`true story. Stack agility gear once and try it out.`
`18:04.11`	`kenlyric\|work`	`you can even look in your stats.`
`18:04.14`	`KarlThePagan`	`I feel like I'm about to be larte'd`
`18:04.39`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Ranged Attack Power: 35. Increases damage with ranged weapons by 2.5 damage per second.`
`18:04.44`	`kenlyric\|work`	`and that's only 45 agility.`
`18:04.46`	`KarlThePagan`	`haha`
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`18:05.32`	`KarlThePagan`	`that would work for mages... they have the best enhanced wand talent`
`18:05.36`	`kenlyric\|work`	`get a high dps shadow wand, shadowform, wand talent, and a ton of agility, and you can autoshot warriors down :)`
`18:05.48`	`kenlyric\|work`	`nah, they can't compete with shadowform.`
`18:05.57`	`KarlThePagan`	`meh`
`18:06.10`	`kenlyric\|work`	`plus shadow vuln if you get that up is another 15%`
`18:06.18`	`KarlThePagan`	`i'm pissed they took out that 19 stam 125 dps wand from the netherflight quest rewards :(`
`18:06.49`	`KarlThePagan`	`if only we could cast spells inbetween swings`
`18:06.52`	`KarlThePagan`	`like paladins`
`18:07.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`kenlyric\|work: ranged attack power doesnt effect wands`
`18:08.23`	`KarlThePagan`	`<- lart'd`
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`18:08.44`	`KarlThePagan`	`make a youtube ;)`
`18:09.09`	`KarlThePagan`	`hey anyone of a non-en locale around?`
`18:09.16`	`winkiller`	`nevah`
`18:09.16`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Arrowmaster: it most certainly does. Or else there's a stray 2-4 damage coming out of my wand that shouldn't be there.`
`18:09.17`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan: waypoints does work.`
`18:09.20`	`winkiller`	`enGB from day one`
`18:09.33`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan: btw, deDE here ;-)`
`18:09.35`	`KarlThePagan`	`Chinku, visible on the world/continent map?`
`18:09.54`	`winkiller`	`anyone ever tried installing a enGb and for example deDE WoW parallel?`
`18:09.59`	`KarlThePagan`	`winkiller, that's an en locale ;) zone names are the same i think`
`18:10.04`	`Elkano`	`Karl, you still didn't rework Grouper's scanning, did you? ;)`
`18:10.04`	`Chinku`	`KarlThePagan: yes it is.`
`18:10.31`	`KarlThePagan`	`Elkano, nope i'm looking at it... it's actually a nontrivial problem`
`18:10.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`kenlyric\|work: every time i look at the ranged damage done on my character tab it says exactly the same as my wand tooltip, melee though is slightly higher than weapon tooltip because attack power effects it`
`18:10.55`	`Elkano`	`winkiller, tried ELP?`
`18:11.02`	`KarlThePagan`	`Elkano, the cobbler's children have no shoes`
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`18:11.16`	`Elkano`	`???`
`18:11.43`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Arrowmaster: it's not shown in the damage window, but it affects the damage of the wand. Which is why I think it's a bug.`
`18:11.50`	`winkiller`	`Elkano: noo,I'm a bit special. :) I installed enGB wow, then bought a deDE WoW(new account), now I have enGB TBC, but no German TBC media abvailable`
`18:12.02`	`KarlThePagan`	`Elkano, it means - i do software for a living so... when my recreational software development becomes more like work I'm less apt to participate :(`
`18:12.30`	`Elkano`	`winkiller, iirc it's for download somewhere on the wowpage but I haven't found it again :/`
`18:12.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`kenlyric\|work: every time ive tested it, it doesnt seem to be effected by ap`
`18:12.43`	`winkiller`	`err, I'd need a GLP :)`
`18:13.05`	`winkiller`	`I _have_ only english wow/tbc installed and english tbc media. AND german wow media`
`18:13.11`	`Elkano`	`KarlThePagan, so do I but I'm still studying ^^ but on the other hand I somehow still enjoy debuging ;)`
`18:13.17`	`winkiller`	`I'd need german tbc to test`
`18:13.21`	`neenee`	`*debugging`
`18:13.45`	`winkiller`	`blizzard sucks for not just having a language flag inside the wow client tbh`
`18:13.46`	`Elkano`	`winkiller, log into the accound management and download the German language pack ;)`
`18:13.52`	`winkiller`	`lol, that works?`
`18:13.57`	`winkiller`	`ok, will look :)`
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`18:14.34`	`Elkano`	`well, having such a flag would increase the size of the client by a few gigs for having engl/german/french/spansih audio files`
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`18:15.13`	`Teshnor`	`hrm... what's with all the errors about protected functions I get from FuBar? :(`
`18:15.34`	`fatbrain`	`Teshnor: I take it you'r running the "newest" version of FuBar?`
`18:15.56`	`winkiller`	`Elkano: I could happily live with one more cd inside and installing it afterwards..`
`18:16.01`	`fatbrain`	`erm, why did I put quotation-marks around newest!?`
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`18:17.13`	`Elkano`	`winkiller, but think about a few million extra CDs that are hardly used by anyone... so they say: buy the language version you want to play and if you change your mind, download a language pack`
`18:17.43`	`winkiller`	`I've heard of several problems with the language packs. but I try vanilla download :)`
`18:17.46`	`winkiller`	`that sounds better`
`18:17.59`	`winkiller`	`I got a 400GB HDD last week, why not install a 2nd wow with 10GB? :D`
`18:18.07`	`Elkano`	`pre or post 2.0 language packs?`
`18:18.12`	`winkiller`	`pre`
`18:18.24`	`winkiller`	`why should it change? :)`
`18:18.35`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r27565 10DKPmon/PointsDB/pointsdb.lua: DKPmon: Fixed error with awarding a negative number of custom points.`
`18:18.35`	`Elkano`	`well, 2.0 changed the clients file structure drasticaly to improve language pack support`
`18:18.41`	`winkiller`	`oh, sweet`
`18:19.18`	`Elkano`	`so language specific files are now even in their own subdirectory`
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`18:20.15`	`KarlThePagan`	`Elkano, have at it ;) the issue is resolving players joining/leaving the queue between scans (clicks) that you input`
`18:20.29`	`KarlThePagan`	`and perhaps relating to reverse translating dungeon names`
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`18:20.54`	`KarlThePagan`	`(err not translating, but ... there's a function in there to reverse from the dungeon name and the zone name)`
`18:21.11`	`kergoth`	`that nameplate manipulation addon looks nifty.. course its quite inefficient, but..`
`18:21.16`	`kergoth`	`the concept is nifty`
`18:21.47`	`Thorgard_`	`Screw efficiency!`
`18:21.54`	`cncfanatics`	`efficiency > all`
`18:23.05`	`kergoth`	`he captures a couple GetChildren()'s in new tables in his onupdate..`
`18:23.08`	`kergoth`	`throttled onupdate, but still`
`18:23.23`	`Stephmw`	`aaaaaargh! can't seem to get more than 30-200kB/s on the lan`
`18:23.36`	`Elkano`	`KarlThePagan, maybe you should return to the blackboard again and do a better split between gathering the data and having it shown to the client`
`18:24.06`	`KarlThePagan`	`Elkano, sounds like making shoes`
`18:24.45`	`Elkano`	`eg have the base part sent out events whenever it has obtained updated data for a single instance/quest/... and have the fubar plugin then react on that change`
`18:25.05`	`CIA-17`	`03saroz * r27566 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesOptions.lua): sRaidFrames: Remove the old sort feature, doh`
`18:25.06`	`KarlThePagan`	`well that doesn't change my storage algorithms`
`18:25.17`	`Elkano`	`well, I don't know how often I returned to the blackboard for EBB2 ^^'`
`18:26.27`	`Elkano`	`next step would be overload data gathering with debug output to trace down why data is counted but not stored`
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`18:27.31`	`cncfanatics`	`god damn shit, I hate WoW's widget API`
`18:28.11`	`cncfanatics`	`can someone please tell me whats wrong with this code ? http://ace.pastey.net/6225`
`18:28.18`	`cncfanatics`	`it shows tiny 5 pixel icons`
`18:29.58`	`cncfanatics`	`someone ? :(`
`18:30.11`	`neenee`	`Not a clue`
`18:30.45`	`cncfanatics`	`i'll make u a screen of the result I get, gimme a second`
`18:31.45`	`Tornhoof`	`what happens if you actually assign an icon at line 6?`
`18:32.22`	`cncfanatics`	`I do set an icon, its just done later on`
`18:32.23`	`KarlThePagan`	`Elkano, yea it's more complex than that`
`18:32.30`	`Teshnor`	`fatbrain: Of course I am... Just updated to latest rev.`
`18:32.54`	`ckknight`	`mok: press alt to temporarily unlock`
`18:33.01`	`Teshnor`	`I'm just wondering if it's FuBar itself or if there might be an addon that's causing the errors`
`18:33.14`	`Tornhoof`	`dunno then, only thing i don't know is your clampedtoscreen stuff, but otherwise looks fine`
`18:34.27`	`ckknight`	`Proph_: the next time I catch you saying ACE, I'm going to kick you. I've seen it 3 times now, and this is your 3rd warning.`
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`18:34.42`	`Grine`	`ACE`
`18:34.43`	`Grine`	`ACE`
`18:34.47`	`Grine`	`>.>`
`18:35.01`	`neenee`	`*Ace`
`18:35.04`	`winkiller`	`lol, what's wrong with it?`
`18:35.14`	`cncfanatics`	`its no acronym :p`
`18:35.18`	`neenee`	`apparently it is not an acronym`
`18:35.21`	`winkiller`	`do you always say WoW?`
`18:35.36`	`KarlThePagan`	`WoW is an acronym`
`18:35.47`	`winkiller`	`I wanted to point ozt the caps`
`18:36.03`	`kergoth`	`what about it?`
`18:36.04`	`winkiller`	`whatever. let's make it a backronym :P`
`18:36.09`	`cncfanatics`	`i barely ever write wow except if i'm in a hurry :p`
`18:36.11`	`kenlyric\|work`	`wow, I thought I was anal.`
`18:36.12`	`kergoth`	`you're still comparing an acronym to a word.`
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`18:36.23`	`winkiller`	`inserting sublime messages :/`
`18:36.33`	`KarlThePagan`	`winkiller, pop quiz... what's JDBC stand for?`
`18:36.44`	`winkiller`	`Java DataBase Connectivity`
`18:36.48`	`KarlThePagan`	`wrong`
`18:36.53`	`KarlThePagan`	`it's not an acronym ;)`
`18:37.02`	`winkiller`	`it says so in some slides I got`
`18:37.07`	`KarlThePagan`	`(due to legal reasons of course lolol I'm just being pedantic)`
`18:37.13`	`cncfanatics`	`this code: http://ace.pastey.net/6226 gives this result: http://cncfanatic.free.fr/sigh.png (mind the tiny buttons :/)`
`18:37.18`	`KarlThePagan`	`Sun would sue winkiller ;)`
`18:37.36`	`winkiller`	`I don't get it, sorry`
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`18:38.09`	`neenee`	`Hm. The good thing about a long-distance relationship is, that it's very difficult to do something really wrong. And there's no pressure associated with being cooped up. But there are plenty of drawbacks too.. like the physical aspect`
`18:38.23`	`neenee`	`or rather, the lack of the physical aspect`
`18:38.26`	`Thorgard_`	`neenee, aerr?`
`18:38.30`	`ckknight`	`kagaro\|afk: the very reason the Guild Spammer is in Cartographer instead of in Guild Positions is so that if you don't have Guild Positions, your guildmates will still see your position`
`18:39.03`	`cncfanatics`	`ckknight, are you good in using the widget api ? :p`
`18:39.09`	`ckknight`	`reasonably`
`18:39.09`	`winkiller`	`KarlThePagan: please enlighten me. sun-website and wikipedia all state what I said`
`18:39.11`	`neenee`	`Thorgard_: Apparently I feel comfortable enough with IRC channels to randomly say what I'm thinking :) Well, not all channels, but this one is fine.`
`18:39.21`	`ckknight`	`kagaro\|afk: so I'm reverting your change`
`18:39.21`	`winkiller`	`lol neenee`
`18:39.34`	`cncfanatics`	`could you check my code ckknight ? and the result I get`
`18:39.41`	`ckknight`	`in a bit`
`18:39.42`	`cncfanatics`	`stuck on this since 2 days and can't figure out why I get this`
`18:39.46`	`KarlThePagan`	`winkiller, http://www.sun.com/policies/trademarks/`
`18:39.49`	`neenee`	`winkiller: :)`
`18:39.57`	`binder`	`I'm looking for ACE alternatives to raidtracker and expense history, is there anything out there that replace these?`
`18:40.10`	`*** kick/#wowace [binder!n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com] by kergoth (Ace is not an acronym.)`
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`18:40.22`	`KarlThePagan`	`winkiller, oh i see my mistake - sun is distributing jdbc now`
`18:40.33`	`Thorgard_`	`neenee, ah, figures. ;)`
`18:40.40`	`cncfanatics`	`binder: do s/ACE/Ace/ fast !`
`18:41.00`	`Thorgard_`	`neenee, I had a long-distance relationship once. They truly have some drawbacks, indeed.`
`18:41.04`	`KarlThePagan`	`lolol ok so my bad...`
`18:41.18`	`winkiller`	`np :P`
`18:41.26`	`KarlThePagan`	`but yea there's all sorts of funny things about aconyms in software`
`18:41.41`	`winkiller`	`every oppurtunity to be a smartass has to be taken`
`18:41.45`	`binder`	`hmm .,%s/ACE/Ace`
`18:42.01`	`Elkano`	`could one configure purl to automitacly do a s/ACE/Ace/? ;)`
`18:42.13`	`cncfanatics`	`binder: http://files.wowace.com/nRaidTracker/nRaidTracker-r26541.zip`
`18:42.21`	`KarlThePagan`	`or purl could yell at people who say it`
`18:42.23`	`cncfanatics`	`dunno any for expensehistory`
`18:42.26`	`winkiller`	`mhm, nobody ever made the suggestion for an addon named AceVenturer? :P`
`18:42.30`	`kenlyric\|work`	`or, stop being so anal about it and l2english.`
`18:42.37`	`binder`	`awk & sed`
`18:42.41`	`kenlyric\|work`	`AWK`
`18:42.44`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Awk`
`18:42.45`	`kenlyric\|work`	`awk.`
`18:42.50`	`winkiller`	`awk comes from awkward`
`18:42.50`	`kenlyric\|work`	`All mean the same goddamn thing`
`18:43.40`	`Gnarfoz_`	`waaaait a minute`
`18:43.52`	`KarlThePagan`	`kenlyric\|work, the point of my little pedantic tangent is that implying an acronym is confusing... sometimes in software it takes on ghastly legal ramifications`
`18:44.07`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27567 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.lua: SpyGnome: Bugfix for the debug print.`
`18:44.08`	`winkiller`	`i still don't see why, KTP :)`
`18:44.26`	`Gnarfoz_`	`someone in a channel where you get flamed for asking about a change in how something is handled, asking about NOT yelling at people who spell something as an acronym that isn't one? wow indeed ;D`
`18:44.48`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r27568 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs):`
`18:44.49`	`CIA-17`	`Cartographer - reverting karago's change regarding GuildPositions`
`18:44.49`	`CIA-17`	`- also added another check`
`18:45.25`	`binder`	`you put not in all caps`
`18:45.28`	`winkiller`	`hm, acronymify it should've been`
`18:45.32`	`ckknight`	`Gnarfoz_: I'm always nice the first time.`
`18:45.33`	`Gnarfoz_`	`binder: it's called emphasis`
`18:45.46`	`binder`	`I know, I got kicked for it :P`
`18:45.54`	`Gnarfoz_`	`ckknight: huh? I wasn't even talking about you :D`
`18:46.09`	`winkiller`	`emphaceis :)`
`18:47.08`	`KarlThePagan`	`winkiller, when jdbc was distributed by a 3rd party (postgres? I forget) it was infringing on the trademark etc etc so they (and consequently other java-based projects that make themselves acronyms) had to de-acronym all their project names, add disclaimers ... hilarity ensued`
`18:47.10`	`Gnarfoz_`	`about acronymifying everyone, use the cyborger, winkiller ^^`
`18:47.48`	`Gnarfoz_`	`winkiller: http://cyborg.namedecoder.com/index.php?acronym=winkiller`
`18:47.59`	`winkiller`	`i know it, 90s stuff :P`
`18:48.09`	`winkiller`	`KarlThePagan: ah thanks, never heard about that :/`
`18:48.16`	`binder`	`wow postgres and jdbc`
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`18:48.48`	`_Saint-N`	`http://www.greengoblin.com/internal/corner/shark.html`
`18:48.52`	`binder`	`hope that stuff is still around, got out of the industry about 7 years ago`
`18:49.02`	`cncfanatics`	`they sure are`
`18:49.10`	`KarlThePagan`	`binder, postgres rocks`
`18:49.17`	`binder`	`postgres > mysql still?`
`18:49.18`	`winkiller`	`uh, btw - are there public stats about traffic and downloads from /files/?`
`18:49.29`	`KarlThePagan`	`binder, depends on your problem space, for me yea`
`18:49.42`	`binder`	`mysql ACID yet?`
`18:49.44`	`kenlyric\|work`	`wait, whnat does btw mean? Is it some sort of acronym? Then it must be BTW!`
`18:49.45`	`Saint-N`	`postgres makes baby jesus cry`
`18:50.13`	`KarlThePagan`	`unless you never capitalize anything kenlyric\|work ;)`
`18:50.18`	`Saint-N`	`buh tuh wuh`
`18:50.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm why the hell cant i find the damn combo point stuff in the framexml`
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`18:50.35`	`kenlyric\|work`	`KarlThePagan: yeah, the only reason your name gets capticalized is tab-completion`
`18:50.38`	`sbu`	`hmm`
`18:50.40`	`sbu`	`<3 holy/disc priest :o`
`18:51.04`	`winkiller`	`binder: myISAM is not ACID, but InnoDB is fully afaik`
`18:51.05`	`kenlyric\|work`	`man, typing FTL!`
`18:51.13`	`kenlyric\|work`	`wait, is that faster than light?`
`18:51.13`	`winkiller`	`depends on your storage engine.`
`18:51.34`	`Saint-N`	`hehe afaik should always be afaic`
`18:51.37`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I'm just going to start calling Ace "tickles"`
`18:51.40`	`Saint-N`	`as far as i care`
`18:51.40`	`durcyn`	`people still use myisam?`
`18:51.42`	`Teshnor`	`<event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'FuBar' tried to call the protected function 'UNKNOWN'. <--- Getting alot of those lately`
`18:51.59`	`NeoTron`	`so do you think Blizzard makes end-of-heroic dungeon items listed as epic to make people think they are getting better items or to make them a status symbol ?`
`18:52.05`	`chutwig\|work`	`Teshnor: in bugsack?`
`18:52.06`	`Pneumatus`	`my bugsack has hundreds of them also Teshnor`
`18:52.06`	`pastamancer`	`doh, pastey mangles unicode`
`18:52.10`	`Teshnor`	`yep`
`18:52.16`	`chutwig\|work`	`have bugsack suppress the common errors`
`18:52.18`	`Teshnor`	`quite irritating... "FATALITY!"`
`18:52.24`	`chutwig\|work`	`filter addon mistakes, i think it's called`
`18:52.26`	`kenlyric\|work`	`NeoTron: epic has meaning when it comes to item stat distribution vs item level.`
`18:52.37`	`KarlThePagan`	`and cost to repair lol`
`18:52.44`	`NeoTron`	`kenlyric\|work: yes, for an item level 100 item it's better than a rare`
`18:52.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`NeoTron: ive only found 1 heroic epic i can even use`
`18:52.52`	`NeoTron`	`but l70 dungeons drop ilevel 115 items`
`18:52.55`	`NeoTron`	`which are the same or better`
`18:53.00`	`KarlThePagan`	`sometimes`
`18:53.06`	`NeoTron`	`usually`
`18:53.11`	`Saint-N`	`i love porn movie names`
`18:53.25`	`KarlThePagan`	`I filied a petition last night after an absolute piece of shit dropped off the girlie demon in arcatraz`
`18:53.28`	`NeoTron`	`http://thottbot.com/?i=59795 vs EASY quest item: http://thottbot.com/?i=59104`
`18:53.35`	`Saint-N`	`"what's up her ass 2" and "she likes it in the bum"`
`18:53.38`	`kenlyric\|work`	`go to the item list for staves and sort by item level... several blues above the purples, but the purples are clearly better.`
`18:53.55`	`kenlyric\|work`	`then again, that trinket from Rag was epic... so sometimes they just screw up.`
`18:54.08`	`KarlThePagan`	`pure essence of flame?`
`18:54.09`	`KarlThePagan`	`hehe`
`18:54.15`	`kenlyric\|work`	`pure essence of shards`
`18:54.21`	`KarlThePagan`	`pure essence of crap`
`18:54.23`	`binder`	`does 8 fire damage (4 resisted)`
`18:54.26`	`cncfanatics`	`pure shards of flame`
`18:54.38`	`KarlThePagan`	`Cornerstone GrimNexus`
`18:54.41`	`kenlyric\|work`	`the tooltip should read "casts thorns rank 1 on you, and everyone laughs at you too"`
`18:54.51`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Hey, the cornerstone was a nice offhand.`
`18:55.10`	`Gnarfoz_`	`<NeoTron> http://thottbot.com/?i=59795 vs EASY quest item: http://thottbot.com/?i=59104 <-- your point? the epics are clearly superior to the blue thingy Oo`
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`18:55.12`	`KarlThePagan`	`until everyone had one and they changed the honor system yea`
`18:55.14`	`cncfanatics`	`eating, cya folks`
`18:55.20`	`KarlThePagan`	`and they nerfed the jesus out of the skeleton`
`18:55.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`didnt the skelly used to be lvl 76 or something?`
`18:55.44`	`Teshnor`	`yeah but addon mistakes are mistakes ;)`
`18:55.45`	`KarlThePagan`	`63 i think`
`18:55.48`	`Teshnor`	`I don't like mistakes`
`18:55.48`	`KarlThePagan`	`or 65`
`18:55.48`	`NeoTron`	`Gnarfoz_: no it's not. the blue has two gem slots`
`18:56.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`thought the 63/65 one was from the book in live strat`
`18:56.08`	`KarlThePagan`	`hmm`
`18:56.15`	`KarlThePagan`	`maybe it was higher... i heard stories`
`18:56.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`think it was whatever the ilvl is`
`18:56.36`	`KarlThePagan`	`lol yea 73 would make sense then`
`18:56.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`i heard rogues got raped by it`
`18:56.54`	`Gnarfoz_`	`err... more spelldamage and more stats on the epic, tho? you'd have to put blue drop gems into the blues to make it as good as the epics, if at all`
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`18:57.05`	`KarlThePagan`	`Gnarfoz_, that's how gems work`
`18:57.06`	`NeoTron`	`Some more ilevel 115 cloth boots: http://thottbot.com/?i=60368 http://thottbot.com/?i=60336 http://thottbot.com/?i=59613`
`18:57.16`	`NeoTron`	`Gnarfoz_: so?`
`18:57.23`	`KarlThePagan`	`I'm not sure how they're balanced but I think blizz assumes you put at least an uncommon gem in each slot`
`18:57.29`	`NeoTron`	`Gnarfoz_: gem slots use a significant chunk of the item bonus`
`18:57.33`	`KarlThePagan`	`maybe better than uncommon`
`18:57.47`	`Gnarfoz_`	`so, you'd put blue drop gems into a blue items just to make it as good as an epic drop? or be surprised by the fact that that's possible? oO`
`18:57.49`	`NeoTron`	`and the main difference is that the shattrah boots are SUPER EASY to get`
`18:58.06`	`winkiller`	`how?`
`18:58.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`i still dont have them =(`
`18:58.08`	`NeoTron`	`do you understand the concept of item levels Gnarfoz_?`
`18:58.13`	`Gnarfoz_`	`NeoTron: I do`
`18:58.20`	`Gnarfoz_`	`and wtf...`
`18:58.25`	`NeoTron`	`you kill murmur`
`18:58.30`	`NeoTron`	`http://thottbot.com/?qu=10095`
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`18:58.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`i know i have the quest`
`18:58.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`just cant get a group`
`18:58.45`	`KarlThePagan`	`it was response to wink`
`18:58.53`	`winkiller`	`mhm, never really thought about iLevel`
`18:59.01`	`KarlThePagan`	`I think about it all the time`
`18:59.06`	`winkiller`	`and I see no real sense in doing it :)`
`18:59.10`	`NeoTron`	`Gnarfoz: then you should realize that ilevel 100 epic is pretty much equivalent to ilevel 115 blues, even if the stats vary a bit`
`18:59.17`	`KarlThePagan`	`because blizzard is full of assholes that itemize against me`
`18:59.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`hell some of the ilvl 115 blues look better than karazhan epics`
`18:59.21`	`ckknight`	`hehe: http://cyborg.namedecoder.com/index.php?acronym=ckknight`
`18:59.23`	`Pneumatus`	`zomg`
`18:59.27`	`Gnarfoz`	`NeoTron: your point being?`
`18:59.31`	`Pneumatus`	`guildee just got vengance wrap pattern o.O`
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`18:59.42`	`Neebler`	`http://www.clanok.com/darktide/litestepui2.jpg`
`18:59.43`	`NeoTron`	`Gnarfoz: only that they are nothing more than a status symbol`
`18:59.48`	`Gnarfoz`	`they ARE item level 100`
`18:59.55`	`NeoTron`	`they could have put an ilevel 115 blue on the end boss and it'd been as good`
`18:59.58`	`Gnarfoz`	`how can they be superior to a blue item of level 115?`
`19:00.04`	`Gnarfoz`	`they could've`
`19:00.05`	`Gnarfoz`	`oh`
`19:00.05`	`NeoTron`	`THAT is my point`
`19:00.14`	`NeoTron`	`it's a heroic dungeon end boss drop`
`19:00.18`	`Gnarfoz`	`then it seems I haven't been following you from the beginning ;-)`
`19:00.18`	`NeoTron`	`it's hell ov a lot harder to get`
`19:00.23`	`Tornhoof`	`neebler looks nice, but probably awfully slow :D`
`19:00.33`	`NeoTron`	`then I think we're on the same page`
`19:00.35`	`winkiller`	`I think there should be sth like iLevel=charlvel for white, +5 for greenm +10 for blue, +15 for epic and +20 for legfendaray => NO discussions`
`19:00.49`	`NeoTron`	`winkiller: it used to be like that`
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`19:01.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`and then blizzard lied to us`
`19:01.04`	`Gnarfoz`	`yeah, scrolled up and saw what your initial question was ;-) I'd agree, if that is valid for most of the drops, then`
`19:01.04`	`NeoTron`	`winkiller: i.e each upgrade in "quality" increased effective ilevel by 5`
`19:01.15`	`winkiller`	`wow, I can read minds`
`19:01.16`	`NeoTron`	`seems likethe increased the gap to 10-15 ilevels between at least blue and epic`
`19:01.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`they claimed to be reducing the value of stamina but all they did was up the average ilvl`
`19:01.32`	`NeoTron`	`Arrowmaster: nah`
`19:01.39`	`NeoTron`	`Arrowmaster: 20 stamina = 10 of any other stat nowadays`
`19:01.41`	`Gnarfoz`	`they made stam cheap alright`
`19:01.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`ilvl forumlas look the same to me`
`19:01.55`	`Gnarfoz`	`50stam +30 of another on some green level 65 stuff can't be the old budget`
`19:01.57`	`NeoTron`	`that's why ytou see 35 sta 16 int of the eagle stuff`
`19:02.09`	`Gnarfoz`	`indeed :D`
`19:02.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`i will start up my ilvl spreadsheet right now if you want`
`19:02.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`its the same as before`
`19:02.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh fuck`
`19:02.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`that spreadsheet was on my drive that just crashed`
`19:03.07`	`NeoTron`	`I find it amusing you get ilevel 120 greens from level 70 dungeons too`
`19:03.20`	`packetlss`	`ilvl 100 epic is actually close to ilvl 124 blue itempoints-wise`
`19:03.23`	`Teshnor`	`Neebler: What in the Naaru's name is that?!`
`19:03.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`wtb ilvl 120 wand of shadow wrath`
`19:03.30`	`CIA-17`	`03jerry * r27569 10Links/Links.lua: Links: Add support of PT3 Mendeleev`
`19:03.36`	`NeoTron`	`packetlss: from what I've seen I seriously doubt that`
`19:03.43`	`Teshnor`	`Neebler: So much gloss it hurts my eyes :(`
`19:03.54`	`NeoTron`	`especially since some ilevel 105 karazhan loot is, point for point, 100% worse than an ilevel 115 item`
`19:04.20`	`KarlThePagan`	`NeoTron, 15 stam = 10 of any other`
`19:04.27`	`packetlss`	`NeoTron: you have to realize that as a single stats gets higher, each additional point costs more`
`19:04.37`	`KarlThePagan`	`which oddly enough makes stam and int ... about equal`
`19:04.38`	`packetlss`	`NeoTron: show me`
`19:04.40`	`Neebler`	`it's the sex! just the right ammount of gloss`
`19:04.52`	`mok`	`ah great, ckknight.`
`19:04.55`	`binder`	`I just hit 66 on my rogue last night on a new server, best weapons I found that were pretty easy to get were the fist weapons in stormspire`
`19:04.57`	`NeoTron`	`packetlss: trying to reemmber where I saw it, give me a minute`
`19:05.06`	`winkiller`	`what gloss?`
`19:05.23`	`Teshnor`	`Neebler: It's your ui?`
`19:05.31`	`Neebler`	`no it's made by a guy named Darktide`
`19:05.49`	`winkiller`	`ah, there`
`19:05.51`	`Gnarfoz`	`binder: I replaced my Vis'kag and my Maladath with those two :\`
`19:05.53`	`Neebler`	`it was posted on the Discord forums, I figured none of you go there so I linked it here`
`19:05.58`	`winkiller`	`yuck, glossy`
`19:06.02`	`binder`	`fnar`
`19:06.04`	`binder`	`gnar*`
`19:06.08`	`binder`	`what spec are you?`
`19:06.26`	`winkiller`	`how are those fists called?`
`19:06.28`	`binder`	`ass/combat I'm sure`
`19:06.31`	`binder`	`void-talon`
`19:06.33`	`binder`	`nexus claw`
`19:06.34`	`Gnarfoz`	`was combat w/ sword-spec of course at the time, respecced to the same with fist spec`
`19:06.35`	`binder`	`or somethying`
`19:06.38`	`binder`	`yep`
`19:06.41`	`Gnarfoz`	`void-talon and nexus-claw`
`19:06.43`	`Gnarfoz`	`IIRC`
`19:06.47`	`winkiller`	`thanks`
`19:06.47`	`binder`	`41 in combat?`
`19:06.53`	`Gnarfoz`	`41 or more, yes`
`19:06.56`	`Gnarfoz`	`:>`
`19:06.59`	`binder`	`combat potency`
`19:07.00`	`binder`	`is awesome`
`19:07.18`	`binder`	`cheapshot into SnD`
`19:07.24`	`Gnarfoz`	`if your weapon skill is maxed (= you don't miss because of low weapon skill) and the OH is fast enough, yes`
`19:07.40`	`binder`	`that offhand is fast enough`
`19:07.42`	`Gnarfoz`	`had to max out some weapon skills while leveling with different weapons ^^`
`19:07.47`	`winkiller`	`uhm, how do you get em? are they sold? without rep?`
`19:07.55`	`binder`	`you click on the vendor`
`19:07.57`	`Gnarfoz`	`winkiller: if rep, then max friendly`
`19:07.59`	`binder`	`right click the item`
`19:08.04`	`binder`	`I'm neutral`
`19:08.05`	`Gnarfoz`	`they are vendor greens`
`19:08.05`	`Gnarfoz`	`:\`
`19:08.25`	`binder`	`I rode through netherstorm at 66`
`19:08.27`	`winkiller`	`binder: very funny :/ too bad I'm only 64 and never been there`
`19:08.34`	`Gnarfoz`	`just go there`
`19:08.34`	`Teshnor`	`http://www.clanok.com/darktide/lhystory.jpg <--- messed up ui :D`
`19:08.37`	`Gnarfoz`	`you'll survive`
`19:08.38`	`binder`	`yea`
`19:08.40`	`binder`	`the jungle`
`19:08.43`	`binder`	`is nice`
`19:09.03`	`Gnarfoz`	`winkiller: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19536 < that's the NPC`
`19:09.04`	`binder`	`I'm going to fly out there`
`19:09.06`	`binder`	`and buy another pair`
`19:09.11`	`binder`	`44,71 IIRC`
`19:09.20`	`binder`	`and try to make some money`
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`19:09.24`	`winkiller`	`I know, thanks`
`19:09.32`	`winkiller`	`but I couldn't believe he just SOLD em :)`
`19:09.39`	`binder`	`yea, limited supply`
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`19:09.42`	`binder`	`8 hour restock I think`
`19:09.50`	`binder`	`I couldn't believe they were there`
`19:09.56`	`binder`	`211 top end 1 hander`
`19:10.01`	`winkiller`	`I'll go there at 66`
`19:10.01`	`binder`	`vendor`
`19:10.08`	`binder`	`unreal`
`19:10.17`	`NeoTron`	`ah found it`
`19:10.18`	`binder`	`they're better than the claw you can get in mana tombs`
`19:10.21`	`Gnarfoz`	`I have mag'hari fury brand and hungering bone cudgel now`
`19:10.33`	`winkiller`	`I have Shadowrend and Hwl dagger atm :/`
`19:10.41`	`Gnarfoz`	`I want swords :< but there seem to be no good ones that are reasonably easy to get`
`19:10.46`	`binder`	`actually`
`19:10.48`	`binder`	`I like calw`
`19:10.49`	`Teshnor`	`http://www.clanok.com/darktide/tier5lol.jpg :P`
`19:10.50`	`binder`	`claw*`
`19:10.58`	`Gnarfoz`	`I want my sword spec back ^^`
`19:10.59`	`binder`	`I have like no crit`
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`19:11.08`	`NeoTron`	`packetlss: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28647 vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28340 - the epic has 20 AC more but is otherwise 100% worse`
`19:11.21`	`binder`	`with malice and claw I think I'm at like 21%`
`19:11.30`	`binder`	`with 1472 attack power`
`19:11.33`	`Gnarfoz`	`btw, something I don't know even tho I have a fairly solid knowledge of most every aspect of wow... can you be disarmed with fist weapons?`
`19:11.36`	`binder`	`and 6300 hps`
`19:11.41`	`binder`	`yes`
`19:11.51`	`Gnarfoz`	`I wouldn't know, wearing t2 gloves xD`
`19:11.52`	`NeoTron`	`the blue is quite noticably better`
`19:12.01`	`binder`	`you can riposte those bird things in tero`
`19:12.14`	`Gnarfoz`	`they are mobs tho, whoever knows what's valid for players`
`19:12.15`	`binder`	`how do you say that word?`
`19:12.24`	`NeoTron`	`and I see now that early kara loot = end of heroic instance epics in level`
`19:12.25`	`Gnarfoz`	`arakkoa? or terokkar? :D`
`19:12.26`	`binder`	`re-post?`
`19:12.29`	`Gnarfoz`	`riposte`
`19:12.37`	`Gnarfoz`	`ah`
`19:12.40`	`Gnarfoz`	`pronounce you mean`
`19:12.57`	`cncfanatics`	`back, yo all`
`19:12.58`	`binder`	`I'm going to start using your in place of you're`
`19:13.12`	`binder`	`if you're going to be that anal lol`
`19:13.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`ree-post, the emphasis is on the o, though`
`19:13.29`	`binder`	`long o?`
`19:13.37`	`Gnarfoz`	`not really`
`19:13.50`	`binder`	`seems french`
`19:13.53`	`Gnarfoz`	`it is`
`19:14.06`	`Gnarfoz`	`naw, I'm just not english native, I get confused sometimes ;-)`
`19:14.11`	`packetlss`	`NeoTron: those epic ones are clearly suckier yes, with almost certainty a mistake`
`19:14.12`	`binder`	`oh, guess I don't care how to pronounce it properly`
`19:14.16`	`Gnarfoz`	`(to that being anal thing ^^)`
`19:14.23`	`binder`	`oh`
`19:14.29`	`binder`	`ok`
`19:14.50`	`kenlyric\|work`	`don't worry, I'm convinced nobody in this channel is, given their rather... epically bad pedantic-isms.`
`19:14.54`	`binder`	`it seems most people with English as 2nd, use it more properly than others`
`19:15.08`	`winkiller`	`of course.`
`19:15.11`	`Gnarfoz`	`that seems to be valid for many languages, I guess`
`19:15.20`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I've a got a tickles2 error, stupid questfu!`
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`19:15.42`	`winkiller`	`in my guildchat people from all over europe can talk. only the brits with their slang nobody understands :)`
`19:15.43`	`Gnarfoz`	`kenlyric\|work: complain to the tickles2 dev-team, then ;-)`
`19:15.51`	`binder`	`I think I destroy German when I speak it`
`19:15.58`	`Gnarfoz`	`slang is the devil if it's not your mother tongue`
`19:16.05`	`binder`	`and most Germans tell me I'm doing fine`
`19:16.07`	`Gnarfoz`	`binder: that's not hard to do :D`
`19:16.09`	`winkiller`	`listen to Rammstein and learn ducks and covers`
`19:16.12`	`Gnarfoz`	`and that's courtesy xD`
`19:16.36`	`binder`	`grandparents came to US from Austria, would rather listen to them :)`
`19:16.52`	`Gnarfoz`	`seems logical^^`
`19:17.19`	`Gnarfoz`	`no flame intended or anything, but I was amazed by how bad the German of our USA/Germany student exchange program students was`
`19:17.31`	`winkiller`	`same with Italians :P`
`19:17.33`	`binder`	`oh, you're german?`
`19:17.36`	`Gnarfoz`	`(after four years of learning it, IIRC)`
`19:17.39`	`Gnarfoz`	`yea I am`
`19:17.48`	`kenlyric\|work`	`well, they spend like 2 hours a week studying the language. You'd not be very good at either.`
`19:17.53`	`binder`	`weird`
`19:17.58`	`binder`	`ironic I guess`
`19:18.10`	`Gnarfoz`	`hm, when we went to school with them, they sure had more than just 2 hours of it per week`
`19:18.24`	`binder`	`Gnarfoz`
`19:18.25`	`Gnarfoz`	`but I can't tell how hard a language it is to learn, perspective and all ^^`
`19:18.26`	`Saint-N`	`gnarfoz == gnarly fonzie`
`19:18.26`	`binder`	`here's why`
`19:18.28`	`Saint-N`	`;)`
`19:18.42`	`Gnarfoz`	`Saint-N: lol=p`
`19:18.48`	`Saint-N`	`ayyyyyyyyyyyyyy`
`19:18.51`	`CIA-17`	`03snago * r27570 10FuBar_NinjutFu/ (5 files):`
`19:18.51`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_NinjutFu:`
`19:18.51`	`CIA-17`	`- Now use itemids instead of localized strings`
`19:18.51`	`CIA-17`	`- Added a bunch of items new in tBC`
`19:18.52`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed some features not working anymore due to protected functions`
`19:18.54`	`binder`	`no one speaks German in the US, so if you're learning German, you can't really find others to practice with`
`19:18.57`	`Gnarfoz`	`WRYYYYYYYYYYYYY? :D`
`19:19.00`	`kenlyric\|work`	`considering the exposure that german people get to English, and you'll understand why it's harder for us to learn German than the other way around.`
`19:19.11`	`binder`	`what kenlyric\|work said`
`19:19.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`kenlyric\|work, binder: both valid reasons, I guess :>`
`19:19.44`	`Gnarfoz`	`but anyway, they could make themselves understood, which is enough for most, I guess`
`19:19.46`	`winkiller`	`Gnarfoz: had the same in Italy. I was 15, they were the last class (aged 18) and i spoke better English and Italian than they spoke german/English.. but I blame it on that special school`
`19:20.02`	`Gnarfoz`	`the fun fact the other way around was, we were multiple times mistaken to be British rather then Germans xD`
`19:20.07`	`binder`	`I could get by if I went over there and couldn't find someone speaking English, however I'm 27 now and I can speak a lot less than I could at 15`
`19:20.16`	`kenlyric\|work`	`there's not the same kind of pressure either. We're going to do just fine out in the world if we don't know German. Not so much so if you don't know English.`
`19:20.29`	`kenlyric\|work`	`There are too many languages to choose from, and no compelling reason to choose a particular one.`
`19:20.30`	`winkiller`	`I guess one thing you learn quite good in German schools is English. could be worse`
`19:20.38`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Except chinese, so we can curse in it like on Firefly.`
`19:20.43`	`winkiller`	`lol`
`19:20.54`	`Gnarfoz`	`I'd like to KNOW chinese, but I don't think I'd like learning it ;>`
`19:20.56`	`kenlyric\|work`	`and, because there are a whole lot of them.`
`19:20.56`	`binder`	`it's funny, my grandparents always said Germans speak poor German`
`19:20.59`	`Gnarfoz`	`it's kind of intimidating`
`19:21.12`	`winkiller`	`everybody speaks poorly in his mothertongue`
`19:21.18`	`winkiller`	`save for SOME regions in the country`
`19:21.22`	`sylvanaar`	`wow, im glad i took a long lunch`
`19:21.26`	`Gnarfoz`	`binder: which would just be proof of the 'non-native speakers speak the language better' :D`
`19:21.35`	`Gnarfoz`	`add "theory" to that`
`19:21.38`	`kenlyric\|work`	`everyone thinks their home region is perfect :)`
`19:21.39`	`winkiller`	`hehe`
`19:21.45`	`binder`	`they meant Austrians speak it better, so I asked them why it wasn't called Austrian`
`19:21.57`	`winkiller`	`binder: that is absolutekly not true imo`
`19:22.00`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I'm actually right about it, since the way I speak is how people speak on TV :)`
`19:22.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`heh, luckily at least for German, there is a set standard`
`19:22.19`	`winkiller`	`in Germany at least some people speak like it's written. never seen that even remotely in Austria`
`19:22.23`	`sylvanaar`	`Austrian german is almost uninteligable`
`19:22.31`	`Gnarfoz`	`english has something like that too, doesn't it? Standard English or something like that?`
`19:22.50`	`winkiller`	`many call Oxford English the standard`
`19:22.52`	`sylvanaar`	`hochdeutch`
`19:22.57`	`binder`	`it's the english americans speak, and the english spoken in the UK`
`19:22.58`	`Gnarfoz`	`sylvanaar: indeed ;)`
`19:23.31`	`binder`	`I hab vs ich habe`
`19:23.41`	`winkiller`	`Everytime I see people on earth all speak some "human language" compared to alien communication, I want to stab the author repeatedly`
`19:23.42`	`ckknight`	`ich hab'`
`19:24.09`	`Chinku`	`people from the hannover area are said to speak the "best" German, if there's such a thing as "good German" ;-)`
`19:24.14`	`binder`	`english is the new latin for the time being`
`19:24.15`	`Saint-N`	`there's american and then theres english ;P`
`19:24.16`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, when germans speak properly they speak at 1/2 speed`
`19:24.18`	`ckknight`	`winkiller: Common?`
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`19:25.06`	`kenlyric\|work`	`midland american English is the language spoken without accents, since it's basically the fusion of all the accents found in American dialects (that includes British english)`
`19:25.10`	`binder`	`this is the most strange wow related irc channel I've ever been in`
`19:25.32`	`sylvanaar`	`how many have you been in?`
`19:25.33`	`ckknight`	`lol, binder`
`19:25.35`	`binder`	`3 :)`
`19:25.49`	`ckknight`	`kenlyric\|work: Ohio has the flattest accent of any state.`
`19:25.54`	`mok`	`binder: eich hon`
`19:25.56`	`binder`	`no it reminds me of the old #sunos or #bork on ef`
`19:26.14`	`kenlyric\|work`	`ckknight: it's actually a band that goes across the middle of ohio, indiana, and illinoiis`
`19:26.23`	`binder`	`I'm in wisconsin and people in the south think I sound canadian`
`19:26.46`	`binder`	`ohio people sound like they have an accent to me`
`19:26.51`	`pastamancer`	`binder: I don't know what'cha talkin' aboot`
`19:26.53`	`binder`	`people on tv all sound like me`
`19:27.02`	`Gnarfoz`	`Chinku: hey, I'm from Hannover ;D ^^`
`19:27.21`	`ckknight`	`kenlyric\|work: Illinoisans have accents ;-) I'm from there`
`19:27.35`	`binder`	`s illinois`
`19:27.38`	`KarlThePagan`	`kenlyric\|work, the northwest US accent is really hard to place`
`19:27.41`	`binder`	`central to southern`
`19:27.44`	`winkiller`	`ckknight: anything in scifi :)`
`19:27.49`	`mok`	`ckknight: cartographers map wont switch to the new zone if i wander from one to another while displaying it`
`19:28.10`	`kenlyric\|work`	`winkiller: it's no strange, really. You wouldn't expect English to be the only language, but as globalism increases, the need for a single language for transactions becomes pretty imperative. Most sci-fi assumes a great deal of globalism`
`19:28.29`	`neenee`	`But sci-fi has translators`
`19:28.35`	`kenlyric\|work`	`ckknight: yes, they do, in the north, and south, and in the west. Same in indiana, same in ohio.`
`19:28.37`	`KarlThePagan`	`star treck has translators`
`19:28.40`	`CIA-17`	`03neuron * r27571 10nQuestLog/ (4 files in 2 dirs): nQuestLog : Cleanups`
`19:28.41`	`binder`	`Have you read "the world is flat"?`
`19:28.46`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27572 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua:`
`19:28.46`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Karazhan/Attumen:`
`19:28.46`	`CIA-17`	`- changed phase 2 trigger`
`19:28.50`	`KarlThePagan`	`mega-nerd scifi uses different languages (see firefly)`
`19:29.03`	`kenlyric\|work`	`the band is actually quite small, and it's not like some magic. We just happen to be at the center of the population.`
`19:29.22`	`winkiller`	`kenlyric\|work: it just won't work. they always act like.. say 95% of the population speak it.. I'fd sa 30%-60% - never mentioned`
`19:29.23`	`ckknight`	`kenlyric\|work: oh well`
`19:29.45`	`winkiller`	`i only saw the firefly pilot`
`19:29.49`	`winkiller`	`but looks promising`
`19:29.58`	`KarlThePagan`	`i really like it`
`19:30.05`	`sylvanaar`	`well, english is the international language`
`19:30.08`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I wrote a research paper on pronunciation of the word "greasy"... it's fun stuff :)`
`19:30.12`	`KarlThePagan`	`the movie was of course rushed... like 2 seasons of content stuffed into 2 hours`
`19:30.34`	`kenlyric\|work`	`KarlThePagan: but oh, the content!`
`19:30.35`	`winkiller`	`lol`
`19:30.41`	`kenlyric\|work`	`droool`
`19:30.56`	`KarlThePagan`	`kenlyric\|work, I have had naught between these legs for who knows how long!`
`19:31.03`	`winkiller`	`the only problem was that I didn't understand a word for some passages`
`19:31.09`	`kenlyric\|work`	`that's a crime against humanity, karl`
`19:31.10`	`winkiller`	`my speakers fucked up badly :(`
`19:31.18`	`winkiller`	`wil have to watch it again in german`
`19:31.37`	`KarlThePagan`	`kenlyric\|work, yea they slashed a few characters and plots I would have preferred to have seen MOAR of ;)`
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`19:31.55`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it's quite fun that they curse in chines, there's chinese symbology all over the place, and no explanation behind it all.`
`19:32.13`	`KarlThePagan`	`made it nicely compelling`
`19:32.16`	`kenlyric\|work`	`and sensible, given the percentage of world population that is chinese.`
`19:32.20`	`KarlThePagan`	`exactly`
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`19:32.50`	`Burton`	`Hi, I'm actually having a problem with ag_UnitFrames castbars: it had always been really smooth, but now castbars are jerky :((`
`19:33.02`	`kenlyric\|work`	`and, also, River with fist weapons = hot.`
`19:33.11`	`Burton`	`I can't find the cause`
`19:33.25`	`KarlThePagan`	`lol pedo`
`19:33.26`	`KarlThePagan`	`;)`
`19:33.31`	`KarlThePagan`	`jk`
`19:33.31`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Burton: I'm pretty sure that's voodoo`
`19:33.36`	`kenlyric\|work`	`uh, River is like old and stuff.`
`19:34.21`	`KarlThePagan`	`age mores in the US are fucked up anyways`
`19:34.25`	`kenlyric\|work`	`she's two years younger than my wife.`
`19:34.28`	`Saint-N`	`voodoo. who do? you do. do what? remind me of the babe. what babe? the babe with the power. what power? the power of voodoo.`
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`19:34.32`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea I know just joshin ;)`
`19:34.44`	`kenlyric\|work`	`and, fist weapons!`
`19:34.51`	`Hjalte`	`[Ammo]: You are one of the developers of oRA2, right?`
`19:35.02`	`kenlyric\|work`	`female rogue animations should mimic river vs the reavers.`
`19:35.07`	`kenlyric\|work`	`that was a think of beauty.`
`19:35.13`	`kenlyric\|work`	`*thing`
`19:35.29`	`Saint-N`	`hehe and succubi should mimic blood rayne ;P`
`19:35.38`	`Saint-N`	`god i loved those 2 games`
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`19:35.53`	`Saint-N`	`her voice, the purring while she fed`
`19:35.58`	`KarlThePagan`	`man I just noticed the emotes the succy spouts off while she's seducing ... lololol`
`19:36.01`	`neenee`	`hm. The fluidity of movement should increase from level 1 to 70, as it would be silly if a level 1 moved with the same grace/control as a level 70.`
`19:36.03`	`Saint-N`	`hehehhe`
`19:36.10`	`kergoth`	`neenee: thatd be slick`
`19:36.13`	`KarlThePagan`	`well... afk 4 lunch`
`19:36.26`	`odt`	`reminds me of the breathing trainer`
`19:36.57`	`neenee`	`kergoth: But then they might as well add the greying of hair to signify age and some wrinkles`
`19:36.58`	`kenlyric\|work`	`you mean the new crafting item, breath?`
`19:37.26`	`kenlyric\|work`	`oh god... fishing!`
`19:37.29`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`19:37.40`	`Hjalte`	`Is anyone else having this error when they join a raid with oRA2 r27428 ? http://ace.pastey.net/6228`
`19:39.03`	`Saint-N`	`raids are for chumps`
`19:39.06`	`Kalroth`	`I got a lot of FuBar errors, but I guess it's because I don't have it installed :)`
`19:39.12`	`Kalroth`	`from other mods, that is`
`19:39.48`	`Saint-N`	`any thing thats worth doing is worth doing solo!`
`19:40.44`	`neenee`	`lest it be sex.`
`19:40.57`	`neenee`	`or food-fights`
`19:41.20`	`Saint-N`	`those are redundant ;P`
`19:42.07`	`neenee`	`superseded?`
`19:42.32`	`Saint-N`	`according to 9 1/2 weeks food fights can be sex!`
`19:42.39`	`Chinku`	`Gnarfoz, hm, late answer but do you feel you speak "good" German? ;-)`
`19:42.41`	`neenee`	`:)`
`19:45.16`	`Gnarfoz`	`Chinku: yes, I think I do - I don't use the local dialect (it exists, but is rarely used by the newer generations nowadays), and so far every other German I have conversed with has understood everything I said ;>`
`19:45.31`	`Gnarfoz`	`(and non-native german speakers, too ^^)`
`19:45.46`	`Burton`	`make the castbars smooth again :(`
`19:45.49`	`Industrial`	`neenee: hm. The chance to win should be measured by skill and not gear, also the game isnt supposed to get easier as you level`
`19:46.18`	`Industrial`	`so i disagree`
`19:46.19`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`19:47.15`	`Saint-N`	`lets call our Guild SundayMondayTuesdayWednesdayThursdayFridaySaturday`
`19:50.00`	`KarlThePagan`	`Saint-N, I've been throwing around a guild name starting with 3`
`19:50.03`	`renchap`	`i search a mod to remind me how many times i have killed a mob`
`19:50.09`	`KarlThePagan`	`so it shows up like <3's You>`
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`19:50.35`	`neenee`	`Industrial: Um. Oh, I just meant animation-wise`
`19:51.30`	`Industrial`	`meh animations are not 'connected' anyway, besides the flashes on the body parts.`
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`19:53.57`	`Saint-N`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw6IIz1RSTo bahahahahaha`
`19:54.11`	`Saint-N`	`hahah karl`
`19:54.23`	`kagaro\|afk`	`was someone looking for me ?`
`19:54.30`	`Saint-N`	`when you said it started with 3 i immediately thought of pi`
`19:54.44`	`KarlThePagan`	`naturally <3's the Cock> is an early favorite just to be extra contraversial`
`19:54.52`	`Saint-N`	`hah`
`19:55.01`	`Saint-N`	`we had an alliance guild called The Pink Taco`
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`19:55.08`	`Saint-N`	`for about 3 months`
`19:55.12`	`KarlThePagan`	`reported?`
`19:55.21`	`Saint-N`	`then we had to chance it to Warm Apple Pie`
`19:55.23`	`KarlThePagan`	`haha`
`19:55.35`	`KarlThePagan`	`I had a guildmate who's name was Virginmarie`
`19:55.41`	`KarlThePagan`	`had to change it to Virginsally`
`19:55.55`	`KarlThePagan`	`*whose`
`19:56.19`	`SoBe-`	`anyone figure out the problem using cartographer and onebag together yet?`
`19:56.23`	`SoBe-`	`causing items not to update in new slot?`
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`19:56.36`	`KarlThePagan`	`SoBe-, was working for me last night`
`19:56.53`	`KarlThePagan`	`not sure how those systems possibly interact`
`19:57.03`	`SoBe-`	`i read the onebag thread and alot of people are getting the bug`
`19:57.11`	`KarlThePagan`	`interesting...`
`19:57.19`	`SoBe-`	`i removed cartographer for a week due to it but new cartographer release is too good to leave out heh`
`19:57.26`	`SoBe-`	`so i just use them both anyway`
`19:59.52`	`Saint-N`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjWjnLoE83s <-- i do believe i may have to forsake wow when this comes out`
`19:59.59`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27573 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.lua:`
`19:59.59`	`CIA-17`	`SpyGnome:`
`19:59.59`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:59.59`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:01.44`	`FISKER_Q`	`Wh`
`20:01.54`	`FISKER_Q`	`When i saw CG animated movies i decided to play games based on that too`
`20:01.58`	`FISKER_Q`	`oh wait`
`20:02.42`	`Saint-N`	`heh it's warhammer`
`20:02.48`	`Saint-N`	`what more do you need to know?`
`20:03.00`	`FISKER_Q`	`Mythic`
`20:03.06`	`Saint-N`	`as long as you can jump i'm good ;P`
`20:03.18`	`FISKER_Q`	`Something we can agree on`
`20:03.36`	`Saint-N`	`all the warhammer pc games were a blast`
`20:03.40`	`Saint-N`	`way more fun that warcraft`
`20:03.55`	`Saint-N`	`so if it keeps that trend warhammer online should rule`
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`20:04.37`	`fanatic`	`guys, offtopic question`
`20:04.58`	`fanatic`	`anyone know why my refresh rate for WOW resets to 60 hz everytime i restart the game?`
`20:05.02`	`Saint-N`	`yes, you're fat and no it's not the pants`
`20:05.03`	`Pneumatus`	`vsync`
`20:05.04`	`fanatic`	`even tho i set it to 70hz`
`20:05.21`	`Saint-N`	`kind of card?`
`20:05.28`	`Saint-N`	`some cards have built inprofiles for games`
`20:05.33`	`fanatic`	`my monitor supports 70 hz in the current resolution`
`20:05.37`	`fanatic`	`i got ATI x800xt`
`20:05.49`	`*** join/#wowace Tsikura (i=nn@user-0cev16e.cable.mindspring.com)`
`20:05.55`	`fanatic`	`but afaik this started after i got a new 19" widescreen LCD monitor`
`20:06.06`	`Saint-N`	`lcds cant do 70`
`20:06.12`	`fanatic`	`mine can`
`20:06.15`	`Saint-N`	`or rather most cant`
`20:06.18`	`fanatic`	`mine can`
`20:06.24`	`fanatic`	`1440x900 in 70 hz`
`20:06.27`	`durcyn`	`turn off vsync`
`20:06.33`	`Saint-N`	`appearantly not if it resets when you play wow ;P`
`20:06.49`	`Saint-N`	`i love irc`
`20:07.11`	`fanatic`	`Saint-N, im running in 75 hz in windows`
`20:07.16`	`Saint-N`	`poke`
`20:07.20`	`fanatic`	`cause it supports it`
`20:07.26`	`Saint-N`	`stop listening to me ;)`
`20:07.32`	`Saint-N`	`and turn off vsync`
`20:07.35`	`Saint-N`	`in game`
`20:07.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`are you running at the same res for windows and ingame?`
`20:08.20`	`Scre3m`	`fanatic, i thought fp monitors hace a max of 60hz?`
`20:08.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`no they dont`
`20:08.38`	`Scre3m`	`s/hace/have/`
`20:08.41`	`Saint-N`	`most do ;P`
`20:08.46`	`Saint-N`	`some dont`
`20:08.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`mine can go up to like 80 i think`
`20:09.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`but only 60 at max res`
`20:09.03`	`Saint-N`	`and unless you've got eagle eyes there's not much difference between 60 and 70`
`20:09.23`	`Saint-N`	`or play a lot lateat night`
`20:09.27`	`fanatic`	`my 19" windescreen LCD monitor can do 75hz in 1440x900`
`20:09.33`	`Saint-N`	`after 20 hours i can see my scan lines`
`20:09.42`	`Saint-N`	`if its 60`
`20:10.00`	`kenlyric\|work`	`after 20 hours you are hallucinating your scan lines. There's a difference.`
`20:11.39`	`fanatic`	`ah works now`
`20:11.43`	`fanatic`	`after i turned off vsync`
`20:11.52`	`fanatic`	`bought this cheap ass lcd monitor`
`20:11.59`	`fanatic`	`and the picture is actualy pretty nice`
`20:12.03`	`fanatic`	`video seven`
`20:12.31`	`Gnarfoz`	`err`
`20:12.35`	`Gnarfoz`	`about TFTs`
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`20:13.11`	`Gnarfoz`	`don't run it on anything higher than you need to (60 most likely) if it's not connected via DVI`
`20:13.24`	`Gnarfoz`	`it's useless and gives a worse picture if you do ^^`
`20:14.15`	`revv`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate#LCD_displays`
`20:15.31`	`Gnarfoz`	`revv: that paragraph is a bit short ;D`
`20:16.30`	`revv`	`Ok, my point then ,, refresh rate is irrevelent to LCDs.`
`20:17.33`	`fanatic`	`what i dont like with my LCD monitor is that`
`20:17.39`	`fanatic`	`the game picture in WOW is sharp and lovely`
`20:17.45`	`fanatic`	`but text and shit, seems a bit choppy`
`20:17.48`	`fanatic`	`as in`
`20:17.50`	`fanatic`	`sucky`
`20:17.54`	`Gnarfoz`	`heh, I'd think that with DVI, a higher refresh rate could be used, it wouldn't matter anyway`
`20:18.09`	`Gnarfoz`	`fanatic: not running native res?`
`20:18.18`	`revv`	`Ok, 2 things come to mind - make sure you're in the native resolution, and ^^ yes, definitely DVI, and turn on .. hmm, sec (assuming XP):`
`20:18.28`	`Gnarfoz`	`cleartype?`
`20:18.34`	`revv`	`yes`
`20:18.37`	`Saint-N`	`just install clearfont`
`20:18.40`	`Gnarfoz`	`that does not work inside wow does it?`
`20:18.42`	`Saint-N`	`thatll fix it up`
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`20:18.48`	`revv`	`No, he was referring to desktop blurriness.`
`20:18.53`	`fanatic`	`no`
`20:18.55`	`Gnarfoz`	`no`
`20:18.56`	`fanatic`	`desktop is nice`
`20:18.57`	`Gnarfoz`	`to ingame text`
`20:19.04`	`fanatic`	`im talking about ingame text`
`20:19.07`	`Gnarfoz`	`=]`
`20:19.12`	`revv`	`Ah, my bad, mixed that up.`
`20:19.14`	`Saint-N`	`clearfont2`
`20:19.21`	`revv`	`Hmm, ClearFont2 helped me ;-)`
`20:19.31`	`fanatic`	`the text in windows is nice`
`20:19.37`	`fanatic`	`is that a wow mod?`
`20:19.47`	`revv`	`Aye, should be on files.wowace.com`
`20:20.29`	`winkiller`	`never seen any fitting font for CF`
`20:20.29`	`Saint-N`	`just make sure to copy the contents of the font packs into your wow/Fonts dir`
`20:20.32`	`fanatic`	`does it apply the new font auto after enabling? or do i like need to setup alot of advanced stuff`
`20:20.37`	`fanatic`	`im not a computer master`
`20:20.47`	`Saint-N`	`nope its a menu all dynamic inside the game`
`20:21.00`	`revv`	`It did it automagically for me, though I believe there are some advanced settings, I've never needed them,`
`20:21.15`	`Saint-N`	`its only for picking the fonts afterwards`
`20:21.37`	`Saint-N`	`and sometimes it doesnt catch all the fonts like wow system fonts thats why i say dump them into the fonts dir`
`20:21.49`	`revv`	`Even looking over the font choices, I seem to recall the default one looking the best to me.`
`20:22.11`	`Saint-N`	`i dont remmeber them`
`20:22.19`	`revv`	`Yes, it doesn't change all fonts, most it seemed to me. Most noticable were the chat windows, and FuBar.`
`20:22.26`	`Saint-N`	`but the one up from the default or the 2nd one in the choice list is best for me`
`20:22.51`	`Gnarfoz`	`what's different from CF to CF2 anyway, if you've been using the ..\..\Fonts\ dir before?`
`20:23.00`	`Saint-N`	`ones ace the other is ace2`
`20:23.11`	`Saint-N`	`thats about it`
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`20:23.46`	`fanatic`	`i dont got a wow/fonts dir`
`20:24.03`	`fanatic`	`but i see Interface/Addons/Clearfont2/Fonts`
`20:24.04`	`revv`	`I don't think I do either (I am at work, but laggy to check home via VNC) :(`
`20:24.27`	`revv`	`I think I recall installing, 0 changes, and being quite happy :)`
`20:24.29`	`fanatic`	`i installed trough wowaceupdater`
`20:24.36`	`revv`	`Yep, same.`
`20:24.44`	`kergoth`	`money is the devil.`
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`20:26.56`	`Gnarfoz`	`fanatic: you'd have to create it ^^`
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`20:27.47`	`fanatic`	`the text on fubar got even worse`
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`20:28.14`	`Scre3m`	`do the rpgoutfitter people have an irc channel?`
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`20:28.52`	`winkiller`	`rp..what? :)`
`20:29.23`	`Scre3m`	`http://www.rpgoutfitter.com/`
`20:29.28`	`Scre3m`	`profiling site`
`20:29.34`	`ne0--`	`hi guys i have maulgar deDE localized http://ace.pastey.net/6231 can somebody upload it?`
`20:30.00`	`Scre3m`	`meant to ask in wowi tho :)`
`20:32.14`	`Gnarfoz`	`fanatic: check if, in your graphic drivers settings, you've got an option called 'alternate pixel center' (it's direct3d setting), disable if enabled, enable if disabled and try if it changes anything (most likely needs to be done with wow shut down)`
`20:32.42`	`Gnarfoz`	`(or rather, could you provide a screenshot? ^^ is it noticable corruption?)`
`20:32.54`	`Saint-N`	`or right click on the desktop and under appearance and effects tick the use cleartype ;)`
`20:33.05`	`Saint-N`	`thatll work too`
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`20:34.18`	`Gnarfoz`	`depending on what the actual problem is ^^`
`20:42.33`	`fanatic`	`its like`
`20:42.46`	`fanatic`	`the smaller and thinner the fonts are ingame the more shitty they look`
`20:42.52`	`fanatic`	`its like commodore 64 gfx`
`20:43.20`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27574 10BigWigs/Outland/Maulgar.lua: BigWigs: Maulgar: deDE, thanks ne0--.`
`20:44.28`	`ne0--`	`thx rabbit`
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`20:49.18`	`Kemayo`	`kenlyric\|work: QuestsFu error, you said?`
`20:50.16`	`kenlyric\|work`	`nah, yesterday I got a table nil error and it wiped out my quest watching, but it's been updated since then. I was just finding an excuse to say "tickles"`
`20:50.45`	`kenlyric\|work`	`my daily bug today is in AllPlayed :)`
`20:51.57`	`SoBe-`	`anna nicole smith is dead rofl`
`20:51.57`	`SoBe-`	`gg`
`20:52.48`	`kergoth`	`vhaarr: why is SCM_STICKY a global?`
`20:53.09`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: All SCM's config variables are global, so that if someone wants to, they can write an external addon to configure it.`
`20:53.26`	`kergoth`	`ah`
`20:53.27`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: (someone wanted to do that, which is why I made it that way)`
`20:53.39`	`kergoth`	`makes sense`
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`20:54.18`	`ckknight`	`SoBe-: srsly?`
`20:54.24`	`SoBe-`	`yep`
`20:54.27`	`SoBe-`	`www.cnn.com`
`20:54.35`	`SoBe-`	`i saw "anna nicole smith collapsed in home"`
`20:54.40`	`SoBe-`	`then page refreshed and said shes dead`
`20:54.57`	`Myrathi`	`Hmmm. Is TinyTip a decent replacement for TipBuddy? Still haven't found one that I like better... but I've been hacking my (old) version of TipBuddy since about 1.8 since I didn't like how the author ignored the flagRSP problems. :P`
`20:55.12`	`haste`	`SoBe-: sauce?`
`20:55.20`	`durcyn`	`Myrathi: effectively, yes.`
`20:55.22`	`ckknight`	`well, wikipedia says so`
`20:55.23`	`Elkano`	`yes it's even better imho`
`20:55.26`	`ckknight`	`it also says "She's dead Anthony. Sorry buddy."`
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`20:55.43`	`kergoth`	`SoBe-: heh, well, at least we wont have to endure her fatass spouting nonsense on tv anymore`
`20:55.48`	`SoBe-`	`yeah`
`20:56.00`	`Elkano`	`btw: ckknight, TopScoreFu still seems not to capture Mangle :/ and I don't have a glue why`
`20:56.20`	`Myrathi`	`HonorFu been fixed to include EotS weekends yet?`
`20:56.33`	`ckknight`	`Elkano: you fix it :-P`
`20:56.46`	`Elkano`	`nope, got other work to do :/`
`20:57.00`	`durcyn`	`Myrathi: GloryLib has, iirc.`
`20:57.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`topscorefu needs a complete rewrite imho`
`20:57.56`	`ckknight`	`agreed`
`20:58.02`	`ckknight`	`needs to use ParserLib or something`
`20:58.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah`
`20:58.19`	`Pneumatus`	`would be nice if it could ignore things like titancritline does also`
`20:58.23`	`ckknight`	`On February 8, 2007, Smith was found unresponsive in a room of the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Hollywood, Florida. She was rushed to hospital. A witness told local media that paramedics were pumping her chest when they took her out of the hotel. She's dead Anthony. Sorry buddy.`
`20:58.38`	`ckknight`	`well, gtg`
`20:59.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`right now because of fel armor, topscorefu reports all my life draining abilitys as heals since the heal is larger than the damage done`
`20:59.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`Pneumatus: i think theres a branch that does that`
`20:59.42`	`Pneumatus`	`to ignore things like vaelstraz?`
`20:59.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`yes`
`21:02.48`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27575 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Moroes.lua:`
`21:02.48`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Karazhan/Moroes:`
`21:02.48`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed vanish and enrage detection`
`21:03.13`	`Elkano`	`Myrathi: yes HonorFu should be supporting EotS (at least I tried to add it a while back)`
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`21:05.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`Elkano: this mod im working on is turning out to be such a ripoff of factionsfu/friendsfu/guildfu in coding`
`21:06.49`	`Elkano`	`hmm... that could mean I produced good code or that you've choosen the wrong one to rip from ;)`
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`21:07.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`well i wanted it to have a similiar look, and i tend to learn by example`
`21:09.05`	`Myrathi`	`Damn. Now I'm gonna have to put up with my friend whining like a sissybitch over Smith's death.`
`21:09.25`	`durcyn`	`Myrathi: slap him.`
`21:09.34`	`Myrathi`	`I sense a punch in the head shall be forthcoming.`
`21:10.20`	`NeoTron`	`<3 Fel Armor`
`21:10.29`	`Elkano`	`Arrowmaster: ckknight will most likely try to ill you, too if you take over to much of FriendsFu/GuildFu's tooltip code ;) I misused his API a bit ;)`
`21:10.38`	`Myrathi`	`He'll come out with some asscrack nonsense like "But dude, she was like the Marilyn Monroe of the 21st century! I can't believe she's go..." SMACK`
`21:10.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`Elkano: oh`
`21:11.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`Elkano: like what?`
`21:12.09`	`Elkano`	`well, most likely calling addline using a table instead of an arglist`
`21:12.14`	`Pneumatus`	`whats the command to make a pizza timer in bigwigs?`
`21:12.36`	`Myrathi`	`Actually... I think I'll put a stickynote on my front door before he arrives: "Entry is entirely dependant upon no discussion of Anna "Fat Bitch" Smith within the premises. Breach of these rules shall result in violence and expulsion. Yes, Paul; this is directed at you."`
`21:12.38`	`durcyn`	`Myrathi: if marilyn monroe was a filthy gold digging crack whore, then yes.`
`21:12.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`doh`
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`21:13.06`	`Myrathi`	`Think he'll get the point? :p`
`21:13.18`	`durcyn`	`depends... is he named Paul?`
`21:13.21`	`Myrathi`	`HE is.`
`21:13.38`	`Myrathi`	`Mis-capitalisation aside.`
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`21:15.21`	`Myrathi`	`Stickynote printed and applied.`
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`21:17.17`	`Myrathi`	`Time to go level up my druid some more.`
`21:17.26`	`Myrathi`	`Ahshit... after I go get libpng. Dammit. Almost forgot.`
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`21:23.32`	`Azurewrath`	`mhm.. to whom should i send Transscriptor logs? I have some Maiden of Virtue and soon some Moroes data`
`21:24.09`	`FISKER_Q`	`Anyone know some quick SQL?`
`21:24.38`	`FISKER_Q`	`I got a variable @FindUserID which i want to map to UserID in one of my tables`
`21:24.41`	`FISKER_Q`	`anyone know how?`
`21:24.47`	`FISKER_Q`	`Using MS SQL Server 2005`
`21:26.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`Azurewrath: send to ammo i think`
`21:26.50`	`Azurewrath`	`ok`
`21:26.55`	`FISKER_Q`	`nevermind`
`21:26.56`	`FISKER_Q`	`i 0wned`
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`21:36.49`	`Myrathi`	`MSSQL is the devil.`
`21:36.58`	`Myrathi`	`In bright pink panties.`
`21:37.06`	`Myrathi`	`With a crate of alcopops.`
`21:37.49`	`winkiller`	`lol`
`21:37.56`	`Myrathi`	`I think I just alienated my brain from my myself; it refuses to render that image.`
`21:42.15`	`KarlThePagan`	`Myrathi, then I think you've helped yourself deal with mssql`
`21:43.22`	`Myrathi`	`mySQL ftw.`
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`21:43.51`	`Myrathi`	`If I could ditch this MSSQLServer, it'd be gone already.`
`21:44.01`	`ckknight`	`MySQL ftl.`
`21:44.03`	`ckknight`	`total loss.`
`21:44.05`	`Myrathi`	`Unfortunately, I need it for VSS. Which sucks.`
`21:44.09`	`ckknight`	`Postgres ftw.`
`21:44.22`	`Myrathi`	`Eh. Postgres is cool, too.`
`21:44.28`	`Myrathi`	`Had nothing but problems with it, though.`
`21:45.44`	`[Wobin]`	`oh ckknight I noticed the fog'o'war issue on my pvp map last night also`
`21:45.48`	`[Wobin]`	`in regards to Cart`
`21:46.17`	`ckknight`	`Cartographer doesn't touch the fog in the battle map`
`21:46.18`	`durcyn`	`dunno what you guys are talking about, real men use Oracle`
`21:46.32`	`[Wobin]`	`That's what makes it so odd, you hit 'm' and all of a sudden, murky`
`21:46.45`	`[Wobin]`	`and not the 'grlrlrlgrlegrell' type`
`21:52.04`	`yacoob`	`durcyn, Oracle is evil.`
`22:01.59`	`kergoth`	`foo`
`22:03.20`	`art3mis`	`neuron around?`
`22:03.51`	`_neuron_`	`yeah art3mis`
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`22:04.33`	`art3mis`	`given any thought to making the quest tracker frame size lockable with mouse scrolling to see them all?`
`22:04.44`	`_neuron_`	`yeah, and I wanna do it when I get time tbh`
`22:04.47`	`_neuron_`	`but it's slightly tricky :P`
`22:04.52`	`art3mis`	`http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg`
`22:05.09`	`art3mis`	`thats the only thing missing from my near perfect ui now ;)`
`22:05.19`	`art3mis`	`the tracker extends out of the panel heh`
`22:05.46`	`_neuron_`	`hehe`
`22:05.48`	`art3mis`	`when i move into zones where i have more than 4 quests that is`
`22:06.02`	`art3mis`	`i stole the mazzle UF and art this morning ;P`
`22:06.07`	`_neuron_`	`hehe`
`22:06.10`	`Pneumatus`	`art3mis: which bag mod is that?`
`22:06.14`	`art3mis`	`ark`
`22:06.43`	`art3mis`	`i wanna use sanity bags but anti hasnt had time altely to do any upgrades to it so it's totally alpha right now`
`22:07.05`	`art3mis`	`which makes filtering a huge pain in the buttocks heh`
`22:07.21`	`art3mis`	`but once he gets to work on it it's gonna rule and replace all bag mods and autobar ;P`
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`22:12.53`	`_neuron_`	`I know someone were talking about making a mod to calculate socket bonuses etc, did anyone get around to that? :P`
`22:13.17`	`kergoth`	`calculate?`
`22:13.52`	`_neuron_`	`yeah, I hate not knowing what sockets go in what slots/how expensive they are/what all the stats would calculate to with em on etc`
`22:14.40`	`durcyn`	`sounds like something more suited to thottbot or wowwiki`
`22:15.16`	`_neuron_`	`I want the info available when something drops ingame though ;)`
`22:15.32`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea`
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`22:15.57`	`KarlThePagan`	`you know what I'd want - if there's an item that you could equip if it will tell you if it increases or decreases your stats and by how much`
`22:16.07`	`KarlThePagan`	`like an enhanced equip compare`
`22:16.09`	`_neuron_`	`that too`
`22:16.16`	`durcyn`	`oh, like ItemCompare`
`22:16.23`	`KarlThePagan`	`a combination of ItemBonusLib and EQC`
`22:16.24`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit 07PT3 * r27578 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua:`
`22:16.24`	`CIA-17`	`Mendeleev:`
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`22:16.30`	`KarlThePagan`	`and maybe even some DrDamage functions too`
`22:16.48`	`durcyn`	`nah, there was an old ace1 tooltip mod called ItemCompare, would show +x stat, -y stat on the tooltip of the new item`
`22:16.52`	`KarlThePagan`	`ItemBonusLib needs a rev too to account for the new stuff they made available`
`22:17.07`	`KarlThePagan`	`durcyn, yea cool`
`22:17.18`	`durcyn`	`might just need to be dusted off and updated`
`22:18.06`	`KarlThePagan`	`it could use the CombatRatingBonus() information to show actual increases/decreases in hit,crit, mana pool etc`
`22:18.47`	`KarlThePagan`	`and THEN... it could take some information from DrDamage and with some configuration tell you how much it would increase/decrease your combat effectiveness`
`22:21.51`	`[Wobin]`	`actually what I'd like, is for esc to close te quest info window you get when you click on the tooltip in questfu`
`22:22.27`	`kergoth`	`KarlThePagan: antiarc is working on an addon to show how much your dps would likely increase were you to equip the item you're mousing over`
`22:22.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`i think the point of ItemBonusLib is per item info which is why it doesnt sue CombatRatingBonus()`
`22:22.33`	`Kemayo`	`[Wobin]: It does.`
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`22:22.41`	`[Wobin]`	`=\`
`22:22.41`	`Kemayo`	`Or should, anyway.`
`22:22.45`	`[Wobin]`	`not that I've noticed`
`22:22.47`	`Kemayo`	`Works for me. :D`
`22:22.55`	`[Wobin]`	`unless it was changed since last night`
`22:23.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`works for me`
`22:23.04`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It's only sustained average DPS, not burst, and I'm pretty sure it over-values AP right now. >_>`
`22:23.10`	`[Wobin]`	`hum`
`22:23.13`	`Kemayo`	`Nah, I set it up about a week ago.`
`22:23.13`	`[Wobin]`	`why not me then?`
`22:23.17`	`kergoth`	`still, nifty nonetheless :)`
`22:23.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`got nquestlog too?`
`22:23.52`	`KarlThePagan`	`Arrowmaster, i understand, but in the case that you have at least 1 point of the given rating stat you can do some quick math and not have to rely on the precalculated guesses for ratings`
`22:24.05`	`KarlThePagan`	`I would trust it better if it took that data from the game`
`22:24.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`Elkano: i think i might have found an oversight in FactionsFu`
`22:24.31`	`Elkano`	`hmm?`
`22:24.33`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27579 10BigWigs/Karazhan/TheBigBadWolf.lua:`
`22:24.33`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Karazhan/TheBigBadWolf:`
`22:24.33`	`CIA-17`	`- added CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_PARTY_BUFFS, hopefully register when a party member gets the 'hood`
`22:25.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`Elkano: if a faction is in a closed header, SessionChangesBase doesnt get created for it`
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`22:25.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`until you open the header`
`22:25.40`	Funkeh`	`damn bitch i wanted WizardofOz this week`
`22:25.45`	Funkeh`	`:(`
`22:26.28`	`Pneumatus`	`lol, we;re getting fucked up by midnight still this week :<`
`22:27.42`	`SoBe-`	`ouch`
`22:27.52`	Funkeh`	`how come?`
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`22:27.55`	`Pneumatus`	`our dps seems to be crazy low this week`
`22:27.59`	`Threedee2`	`hi`
`22:28.00`	Funkeh`	`shes cute she wouldn't hurt a fly`
`22:28.01`	`SoBe-`	`with all the info etc available the fights are pretty cake, we one shotted most of the bosses`
`22:28.39`	`Pneumatus`	`well the real problem we are having is we arent clearing the horses up to midnight fast enough to get more than 1 try on them`
`22:28.48`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r27580 10nQuestLog/modules/DetailsFrame.lua: nQuestLog: Change the name of the tablet registered by the details frame module from "QuestsFu_Detail" to "nQuestLog_Detail" to avoid weird conflicts if someone is using both mods at the same time.`
`22:28.52`	`SoBe-`	`ah`
`22:28.54`	`Threedee2`	`is somebody so kind and can help me with a macro? or is this channel just for ace-addons?`
`22:28.59`	`SoBe-`	`whats your dps like? what classes do you have`
`22:29.15`	`Pneumatus`	`our mages are fucking shit`
`22:29.21`	`SoBe-`	`get new dps ;>`
`22:29.30`	`Pneumatus`	`rogue, hunter, lock, 2 mages and a feral druid`
`22:29.50`	`Kemayo`	`[Wobin]: I'll take a look at the escape-closing tonight when I have the game in front of me.`
`22:30.01`	`[Wobin]`	`^^`
`22:30.02`	`nymbia`	`that's more dps than we bring lol`
`22:30.02`	`SoBe-`	`dunno, we bring 2 rogues and reguardless of what people say. were top dps in raid`
`22:30.08`	`SoBe-`	`and we drop stuff pretty fast`
`22:30.14`	`_neuron_`	`Kemayo, I considered that, then thought who'd do that anyway :P`
`22:30.18`	`Pneumatus`	`the rogue hunter and lock are pretty even on dps`
`22:30.22`	`Pneumatus`	`the 2 mages are miles behind`
`22:30.28`	`SoBe-`	`drop the mages`
`22:30.30`	`SoBe-`	`and get new ones`
`22:30.37`	`Kemayo`	`_neuron_: Someone yesterday mentioned that they were using both. Which, I grant, is kind of weird. But...`
`22:30.40`	`Pneumatus`	`one of them is deputy gm :<`
`22:30.42`	`_neuron_`	`hehe, yeah :P`
`22:30.44`	`_neuron_`	`thanks ;)`
`22:30.46`	`SoBe-`	`cant have slackers in raid when your trying to kill stuff lol`
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`22:30.51`	`Gnarfoz`	`affliction is the shit, I can solo two same level elites in outland and still GAIN health in the process xD`
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`22:30.55`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: With AceComm, I do a :SetCommPrefix, register comm priority, memoizations, and a few comms, then do some stuff and unregister all comms. Why do I get an error when I do :SetCommPrefix again? Seems to me I should be able to change it.`
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`22:31.02`	`Threedee2`	`is there any chance to use the modifier option on macros with my keybinding?`
`22:31.13`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr: cause you only register it once`
`22:31.20`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: But I want to change it.`
`22:31.31`	`ckknight`	`not designed that way currently`
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`22:31.35`	`vhaarr`	`bah`
`22:31.52`	`vhaarr`	`alright`
`22:31.58`	`renchap`	`vhaarr: i have a little bug with closetgnome_mount`
`22:32.05`	`vhaarr`	`renchap: Then let's hear it.`
`22:32.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`you could create a new frame everytime and embed acecomm into it`
`22:32.18`	`vhaarr`	`Arrowmaster: yeah, but cba, shrug`
`22:32.29`	`GnomeTank`	`hey, I heard a little rumor that some addons (oRA2, BigWigs, Cartographer) were being changed in to "packages", and that only the new WowAceUpdater supported them...true, false? If so, wtf is a package? :P`
`22:32.50`	`renchap`	`when you logout while mounted, tou should remember the set to switch`
`22:33.09`	`vhaarr`	`renchap: indeed`
`22:33.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`or just switch sets anyway on PLAYER_LOGOUT`
`22:33.24`	`vhaarr`	`GnomeTank: First statement is true, second is false.`
`22:33.41`	`GnomeTank`	`okay`
`22:33.59`	`Pneumatus`	`GnomeTank: what class do you play?`
`22:34.02`	`GnomeTank`	`Uhh, Warrior? :)`
`22:34.03`	`renchap`	`vhaarr: can you implement this ? ^^`
`22:34.09`	`Pneumatus`	`GnomeTank: what race?`
`22:34.13`	`GnomeTank`	`that would be Gnome`
`22:34.38`	`ckknight`	`down with alliance!`
`22:34.50`	`Azurewrath`	`qft`
`22:34.54`	`GnomeTank`	`I actually own all of the gnometank* domains :P`
`22:35.06`	`GnomeTank`	`so by law of the internet, I am THE gnometank, not A gnometank, just for clarification`
`22:35.19`	`vhaarr`	`haha`
`22:35.22`	`Pneumatus`	`nelf hunter :<`
`22:35.26`	`vhaarr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:35.32`	`Pneumatus`	`beast mastery`
`22:35.36`	`GnomeTank`	`I am Alliance and I hate nelf hunters`
`22:35.45`	`GnomeTank`	`if that tells you anything`
`22:35.48`	`vhaarr`	`everyone hates nelf hunters`
`22:36.00`	`Pneumatus`	`i am male tho`
`22:36.05`	`Pneumatus`	`which makes it a little bit less bad`
`22:36.07`	`vhaarr`	`then we hate you even more`
`22:36.08`	`Azurewrath`	`that's so true vhaarr`
`22:36.19`	`Myrathi`	`That's because most of them are played by 10yr old fuckwits with irrepairable ego-inflatory issues.`
`22:36.23`	`Azurewrath`	`i mean, i hate Hunters in general.. but nelf are the worst`
`22:36.32`	`GnomeTank`	`anyways, my other question wasn't answered...wtf is a package? Is this an Ace thing, or a new construct in WoW itself?`
`22:36.39`	`Teshnor`	`hrm... anyone else had selection problems with ag_UF?`
`22:36.49`	`Pneumatus`	`problem is there are too many complete tools that play hunters, and they are also the preferred bot char`
`22:36.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`GnomeTank: its just a wowaceupdater thing`
`22:36.53`	`Myrathi`	`Or 60yr olds that act like 10yr olds. :P`
`22:36.54`	`Teshnor`	`I can't seem to click-target some of the frames :/`
`22:37.25`	`GnomeTank`	`Arrowmaster: Gotcha, thought maybe WoW had a new way to package up addons...but was lost, because I tend to keep up on the latest script engine changes`
`22:37.45`	`Pneumatus`	`i was gonna roll tauren shaman but one of my mates rolled ally so i joined him`
`22:38.02`	`GnomeTank`	`funny, that's what happened to me Pneumatus`
`22:38.09`	`Myrathi`	`Hm. I can't remember but.. is Mendeleev the addon that puts the recipe info in the tooltip when you hover over reagents?`
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`22:38.18`	`durcyn`	`Myrathi: Yep.`
`22:38.37`	`GnomeTank`	`except I rolled a dwarf paladin at release, not a nelf hunter :P`
`22:38.57`	`vhaarr`	`Myrathi: It is supposed to do that, yes, but if you're thinking about the branch, it doesn't do that yet.`
`22:39.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`all it really does i think is let you select a package thats made up of multiple addons (most of which should be LoD) and when new ones are added you dont have to manually select them`
`22:39.37`	`Myrathi`	`Ooh. Anyone know if the bug where the tooltip difficulty colouring isn't updated when you raise your skill is fixed yet? :p`
`22:41.47`	`Myrathi`	`Actually.. I'm not sure that's Mendeleev that's doing that. Hm.`
`22:41.55`	`Myrathi`	`Dammit. Too many addons.`
`22:42.21`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`22:42.27`	`GnomeTank`	`Arrowmaster: Ahh...are the individual add-ons still together? Because like, for Cartographer, I don't WANT all of the addons, I am particular about which pieces I want :P`
`22:42.47`	`GnomeTank`	`same with FuBar (though, I don't know if Fu is getting "the treatment"`
`22:42.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah theyre still LoD so you disable them`
`22:43.04`	`Elkano`	`Myrathi, it's my code in Mendeleev but it's caused by PT1 not updating it's data so not Mendeleev's fault`
`22:43.14`	`GnomeTank`	`LoD?`
`22:43.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`load on demand`
`22:43.21`	`GnomeTank`	`oh, Load on demand`
`22:43.26`	`GnomeTank`	`it hit me just as you typed it :P`
`22:44.07`	`GnomeTank`	`ehh, I guess being LoD is okay, but frankly, I hate my AddOns directory being polluted with a ton of crap, I don't use...I have enough addons in there to worry about, not all of them Ace and Ace updatable (such as Bongos)`
`22:44.20`	`kergoth`	`<3 LoD`
`22:44.30`	`kergoth`	`love using supply & demand to set the class specific addons to only load for that class`
`22:44.58`	`GnomeTank`	`right, me too...but I don't trade skill, at all, ever...why do I even need to have the trade skill stuff for Cartographer in the directory? :P I'm never going to load it :P`
`22:45.02`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`22:45.07`	`kergoth`	`indeed`
`22:45.30`	`ckknight`	`GnomeTank: so don't have it. you're not required to install that`
`22:45.34`	`ckknight`	`it's not part of Cartographer core`
`22:45.36`	`GnomeTank`	`just saying, these packages sound cool, but I hope you guys keep the option for those of us who are picky (like me) to DL just the individual addons`
`22:45.52`	`Teshnor`	`hmm... now this is really irritating... I must have some kind fo invisible frame that's on highest strata`
`22:46.04`	`Teshnor`	`because it's interfering with clickability on ag_UF frames`
`22:46.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`i dont actually use wowaceupdater so im not sure how it works`
`22:46.20`	`GnomeTank`	`I do, I am lazy`
`22:46.20`	`Teshnor`	`anyone know of how to get rid of ghost frames? :P`
`22:46.37`	`ckknight`	`GnomeTank: you do realize that having a package lets you have more control and not less`
`22:46.41`	`GnomeTank`	`plus it's written in C#, I have to support all apps written in C#/WinForms because it's what I do for a living :P It's like a religion`
`22:46.42`	`*** join/#wowace Daemona (i=pfduj@h678631.serverkompetenz.net)`
`22:47.26`	`GnomeTank`	`ckknight: In what way? I DL the Cartographer "package", I get a bunch of Cartographer plugins I am never going to load or use, just sucking up diskpace and cluttering my AddOns folder...unless I am missing something`
`22:47.46`	`ckknight`	`GnomeTank: they'd otherwise be inside the Cartographer itself.`
`22:47.48`	`Teshnor`	`sucking up diskspace? :P`
`22:47.58`	`ckknight`	`you do realize they take like 50 KiB, right?`
`22:47.59`	`Teshnor`	`like... uhm... a couple of kbs? :D`
`22:48.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`ok i guess i misunderstood what the packages were`
`22:48.37`	`GnomeTank`	`hey look, just roll with me here, diskpace on my system drive is expensive :P 150gb Raptor ftw...it's like...over a dollar a gig`
`22:49.08`	`ckknight`	`oh no! a dollar a gig!`
`22:49.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`its just the folders inside the base addon that can be moved out to be lod that the package does`
`22:49.15`	`GnomeTank`	`I was being facitious ;)`
`22:49.38`	`GnomeTank`	`it's over a dollar a gig actually, Raptor's are pricey :P`
`22:49.53`	`ckknight`	`GnomeTank: you'd only be able to fit 20000 addons at 50 KB a piece!`
`22:49.55`	`GnomeTank`	`I guess I will have to see them in action, I Just don't like having a bunch of addons in my addons folder I am never going to load`
`22:49.56`	`ckknight`	`the horror.`
`22:50.05`	`ckknight`	`so delete em.`
`22:50.19`	`Teshnor`	`GnomeTank: You don't have to use raptor disks... It's your choice... And that's not ckknights problem :P`
`22:50.28`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`22:51.01`	`ckknight`	`also remember that I and others do this for free (or on a donation basis) and don't need to fulfill all your whims`
`22:51.17`	`GnomeTank`	`woh there, I think you're taking this the wrong way`
`22:51.30`	`Teshnor`	`ckknight: Haha, now I know why you get so damn irritated about people having trouble with wau+cartographer :P`
`22:51.38`	`GnomeTank`	`I'm not telling you what to do with your software, I asked a question and then explained why I like it the way it was`
`22:51.48`	`GnomeTank`	`if WAU doesn't do it to my liking anymore, I will simply get the addons manually`
`22:52.05`	`ckknight`	`Teshnor: ;-)`
`22:53.23`	`Azurewrath`	`GnomeTank: who cares about how pricey a Raptor is.. it owns :)`
`22:53.32`	`GnomeTank`	`I write open source software myself, I know it gets annoying when people want this and that...but I wasn't attacking you, I'm a little offended you thought I was`
`22:53.35`	`Teshnor`	`ckknight: Do you know a way to find ghost frames?`
`22:53.39`	`oers`	`is a svn admin here?`
`22:54.01`	`Teshnor`	`ckknight: I must have some kind of irritating frame on a high strata that is blocking clicks... :/`
`22:54.04`	`GnomeTank`	`Azurewrath: They more than own`
`22:54.17`	`GnomeTank`	`Azurewrath: OS fully loaded and ready to go before I can go to the kitchen for a glass of water? Yes please`
`22:54.39`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`22:54.46`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:54.50`	`ckknight`	`Teshnor: ^---`
`22:54.55`	`Azurewrath`	`you reboot your Machine? ;)`
`22:55.01`	`GnomeTank`	`it doesn't stay on`
`22:55.05`	`GnomeTank`	`bad for the components`
`22:55.16`	`GnomeTank`	`it's gaming only, has no other services on it`
`22:55.19`	`Teshnor`	`cool`
`22:55.21`	`GnomeTank`	`my 24/7 Linux machine is for that`
`22:55.29`	`Azurewrath`	`ah ok then hehe`
`22:55.31`	`GnomeTank`	`the one with much less expensive hardware`
`22:55.35`	`ckknight`	`GnomeTank: too many people attack me, so I just assume most people are trying to off the bat. also, I don't care if I offended you because of that`
`22:55.36`	`nymbia`	`mine doesnt stay on because it's bad for my damn power bill ;)`
`22:55.45`	`Teshnor`	`ahhhh... it's Soundtracks now playing frame :D haha`
`22:55.55`	`Teshnor`	`ckknight: Can I lower it's strata directly in game?`
`22:55.59`	`GnomeTank`	`ckknight: I wasn't, and you don't have to care, that's your porogative`
`22:56.17`	`ckknight`	`Teshnor: /script GetMouseFocus():SetFrameStrata("BACKGROUND")`
`22:57.16`	`GnomeTank`	`nymbia: yah, my gaming machine has a 1kw PSU in it...if I left it on, I would be eating a massive energy bill monthly :P`
`22:57.32`	`Gnarfoz`	`GnomeTank: yeah, if you used any of that 1kw maybe`
`22:57.48`	`Gnarfoz`	`1kw PSUs don't draw 1kw just being idle oO`
`22:58.32`	`GnomeTank`	`You don't say? :P`
`22:58.58`	`*** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[ (n=Vegeta-G@xdslea033.osnanet.de)`
`22:59.03`	`durcyn`	`my, that's a lot of tongue emoticons.`
`22:59.08`	`GnomeTank`	`except I don't let my system do any power managment, because S3 is flaky on all systems, so it nevers turns it's HDD's off, never down steps the CPU`
`22:59.44`	`GnomeTank`	`so it's always drawing some power from the PSU, not peak power, but some power`
`23:00.45`	`ckknight`	`I want a portal from Silvermoon to TB`
`23:00.53`	`ckknight`	`and to Org`
`23:00.56`	`ckknight`	`if possible`
`23:01.24`	`ckknight`	`even if you'd have to run there first`
`23:01.30`	`ckknight`	`it'd make things so much nicer`
`23:01.34`	`GnomeTank`	`I just want reverse portals from the major cities to Shattrath`
`23:01.52`	`GnomeTank`	`for everyone, not just mages`
`23:02.33`	`ckknight`	`that'd work, too`
`23:02.35`	`ckknight`	`but it makes sense that there isn't`
`23:02.53`	`*** join/#wowace bladlus__ (n=Batos@193.69.144.170)`
`23:02.53`	`ckknight`	`they want to make it so people stay in Azeroth`
`23:03.35`	`GnomeTank`	`Oh, I'm still not going to stay in Azeroth...I will either blow my hearth, or fly down and go through the DP`
`23:03.40`	`GnomeTank`	`I'm leaving either way`
`23:03.40`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`except all that does is make it so people set their hearth to shatt. :P`
`23:04.04`	`Gnarfoz`	`I wonder who doesn't have his hearth at shatt oO`
`23:04.09`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`mages`
`23:04.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`(i hate mages0`
`23:04.27`	`ckknight`	`well, the main reason for not having an auctionhouse in Shatt is so that people don't just stay there`
`23:04.31`	`Teshnor`	`I hate myself :)`
`23:04.34`	`Teshnor`	`shamans that is :)`
`23:04.48`	`GnomeTank`	`ckknight: Right, it would get like Org + IF on crack`
`23:04.54`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`23:05.00`	`Teshnor`	`I mean, I'm lvl46 with my Draenei shammy, and I'm doing nearly 250dps`
`23:05.03`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ckknight: yeah, and thats not a bad idea. but to make it so painful to get back to outland is idiotic`
`23:05.20`	`ckknight`	`NightHawkTheSane: yea...`
`23:05.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Teshnor: yeah, with my 48 shammy, i see double WF crits bigger than shield slam crits on my 70 warrior. ><`
`23:05.30`	`GnomeTank`	`I agree with NIghtHawk, I am not going to just stand around Shatt if I have a portal back ,it's just my easy way back to the outlands`
`23:05.45`	`Teshnor`	`NightHawkTheSane: Double WF? You get that?`
`23:05.49`	`Teshnor`	`never happened to me`
`23:05.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`er, waht i mean is both WF hits crit`
`23:06.02`	`Teshnor`	`oh`
`23:06.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`not procs on both weapons.`
`23:06.17`	`GnomeTank`	`I had Wind Fury for the first time the other day on my Warrior...mind you, I've never had a hordie above 25...I about creamed myself...DW Fury + Wind Fury is disgustingly sweet`
`23:06.21`	`Teshnor`	`yeah... insane damage... I will do over 1.6k damage if I get two crits`
`23:06.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`windfury totems effect both weapons now?`
`23:07.02`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Arrow, no`
`23:07.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`didnt think so`
`23:07.24`	`GnomeTank`	`both effects, or just the haste? Because the AP bonus seems global`
`23:07.40`	`GnomeTank`	`my off-hand was definitley hitting harder`
`23:07.40`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`the AP bonus only affects the actual extra attack made`
`23:07.44`	`GnomeTank`	`hmmm`
`23:07.46`	`GnomeTank`	`interesting`
`23:07.55`	`GnomeTank`	`it's not reflected that way on the character sheet`
`23:07.56`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`it could be the shammy had an SoE totem down`
`23:08.04`	`GnomeTank`	`maybe`
`23:08.08`	`GnomeTank`	`I wasn't paying alot of attention`
`23:08.13`	`GnomeTank`	`I just know I loved whatever it was`
`23:08.43`	`GnomeTank`	`plus the Heroism thing was cool (I think it's Blood Lust for the hordie shammy's)`
`23:08.48`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`but yeah, wf totems are nice. WF totem + Reckoning pally = omg we've created a monster.`
`23:09.35`	`GnomeTank`	`Well, take in to account, for us Alliance players, we haven't had all these goodies...I'm sure you guys are having to adjust to Paladin buffs/auras like we are having to adjust to totems`
`23:10.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`since your dw fury you probably didnt notice the rage generation from the wf hits as much`
`23:10.07`	`Pneumatus`	`do shaman resistance totems stack with paladin res auras?`
`23:10.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`ive heard thats the biggest benifit from it`
`23:10.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Arrowmaster: wf hits dont generate rage.`
`23:10.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`not anymore, at least`
`23:10.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh?`
`23:10.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i think in 2.0 they nerfed that. WF hits are yellow damage now`
`23:10.42`	`GnomeTank`	`I generate rage so fast, it doesn't effect me...but I bet that sucks for MS warriors`
`23:11.32`	`GnomeTank`	`plus I have natural haste from Flurry that raises my rage generation even farther`
`23:12.11`	`GnomeTank`	`hmmm...curious...can my hasted hits while under Flurry pop off Windfury procs? I wasn't paying attention the other night`
`23:12.26`	`GnomeTank`	`they are white hits, so I am assuming "yes"`
`23:12.39`	`GnomeTank`	`or they are true "attacks", not neccescarily white, could be an HS or Cleve`
`23:12.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`i think most things will proc wf`
`23:13.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`just not wf anymore`
`23:13.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`GnomeTank: yeah, flurried attacks will proc WF. they're just autoattacks, only faster.`
`23:13.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`i know in pvp, warriors will sometimes 'fish' for wf procs using hamstring`
`23:13.48`	`GnomeTank`	`NightHawk: You're shield slam comment is too true :( I was pure Prot pre-2.0, for raiding...and while it's great for tanking, it sucks for anything else...Prot still needs love`
`23:14.11`	`GnomeTank`	`and the fact that we have to use lesser armor to tank lesser instances...but I won't get in to that`
`23:14.12`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`GnomeTank: eh, it could use a little touching up, but it's really not terrible.`
`23:14.27`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`focused rage and cheap shield slams mean fair dps when soloing`
`23:14.35`	`GnomeTank`	`try tanking non-heroic Hellfire Citadel instances with part wrath/part dread, let me know how that goes :P`
`23:14.47`	`GnomeTank`	`you won't generate enough rage to keep agro off a bunny`
`23:15.02`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yes, well being overgeared isnt a fault of the spec :P`
`23:15.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`ramparts is just evil in general towards melee`
`23:15.16`	`GnomeTank`	`no, it's a fault of the system, there should be no such thing as overgeared, no other class worries about it`
`23:15.34`	`GnomeTank`	`mages don't wear less +damage gear, priests don't wear less +healing`
`23:15.39`	`GnomeTank`	`rogues don't take off AP gear`
`23:15.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`agreed, but yeah, that's a fault of the rage system`
`23:15.59`	`Aenslaed`	`they did when we went back to vael for fun`
`23:16.04`	`GnomeTank`	`why should I have to drop +def and armor? :P`
`23:16.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`actually i know priests that take off +healing to put on more regen, and rogues that take off ap to put on more crit/hit`
`23:16.22`	`GnomeTank`	`Arrowmaster: Well, okay, but they aren't downgrading gear, they are side grading`
`23:16.27`	`Aenslaed`	`oh yeah. Loatheb definitely needed a new gear set for rogues`
`23:16.33`	`GnomeTank`	`I am taking about putting on all might to tank an instance because if I do it in wrath or dread, I can't do it`
`23:16.34`	`Kalroth`	`balance, balance and balance!`
`23:17.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`just go naked, people love naked gnomes`
`23:17.09`	`GnomeTank`	`this is true`
`23:17.21`	`GnomeTank`	`I actually tank Ramparts and Blood Furnace duel wielding :P I just don't use my shield`
`23:17.47`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin 07Wobin * r27581 10Cartographer_Waypoints/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (NotePoint.lua Waypoints.lua):`
`23:17.47`	`CIA-17`	`Cartographer:`
`23:17.47`	`CIA-17`	`- short commit so I can reformat`
`23:17.54`	`vhaarr`	`That's fine, as long as you're not running heroic.`
`23:18.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`most warriors i know tank the trash in the lesser instances without a sheild`
`23:18.07`	`*** join/#wowace Gigaknight (n=neuro@c220-239-13-191.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au)`
`23:18.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`heroic trash is fucking evil`
`23:18.10`	`GnomeTank`	`vhaarr: of course, in heroic I wouldn't need to take off armor`
`23:18.16`	`vhaarr`	`[Wobin]: Have fun! Finally installing Linux, eh? ^^`
`23:18.24`	`[Wobin]`	`hehe`
`23:18.35`	`[Wobin]`	`Not for a short while, I want to reformat my external to ext2`
`23:18.45`	`[Wobin]`	`so I can store stuff before the 'Big Wipe' =)`
`23:18.46`	`vhaarr`	`ext2, of all things.`
`23:18.46`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`plenty of warriors tank non-heroic isntaces with shields. not -everyone- is part of the 1% wow population with tier 3, or even tier 2.`
`23:18.54`	`[Wobin]`	`well, ext3`
`23:18.57`	`GnomeTank`	`NightHawkTheSane: The sad part is, the fix is easy...in defensive stance, rage should be PRE-MITIGATION, not post`
`23:18.58`	`vhaarr`	`right`
`23:19.07`	`Myrathi`	`Teshnor: Useful mod to have: DevTools`
`23:19.07`	`[Wobin]`	`but windows will read it as ext2`
`23:19.10`	`durcyn`	`man up, reiser4 that bitch and watch your data go down in flames.`
`23:19.21`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`GnomeTank: no, the fix is completeyl revamping the rage system so it's not just retarded.`
`23:19.34`	`GnomeTank`	`NightHawkTheSane: I said the easy fix ;) Obviously that's the long term fix`
`23:19.45`	`[Wobin]`	`Myrathi: ck added in a /dump functionality into aceconsole I think it was`
`23:19.45`	`Myrathi`	`Teshnor: It has a /dtframe (sp?) toggle-command that shows you every single frame under your cursor at all times, in a mobile tooltip.`
`23:19.53`	`GnomeTank`	`honestly, I think that's what Blizzard will end up doing, they know it's broken now, they've admitted it`
`23:20.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`that easy fix only affects rage from incoming damage, though. rage from damage dealt also needs to be fixed`
`23:20.01`	`GnomeTank`	`revamping the whole system that is`
`23:20.02`	`[Wobin]`	`but yeah, the stackframe is fun`
`23:20.27`	`GnomeTank`	`NightHawkTheSane: For non-tanking situations, yes...for tanking, I'll take just the incoming rage fix for the time being, that's my biggest issue with rage gen. for tanking`
`23:20.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`GnomeTank: ask for that as a prot talent, so we can get more prot warriors in pvp, they work so great as distractions`
`23:20.39`	`cladhaire`	`so whats henge's deal?`
`23:20.40`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`well, yeah, but tanking isn' the only thing ever :)`
`23:20.44`	`ckknight`	`Myrathi, Teshnor: I find that /print GetMouseFocus() does quite fine`
`23:20.51`	`vhaarr`	`If you have AceConsole-2.0, you have /dump, /print, and you can just /dump GetMouseFocus()`
`23:20.56`	`vhaarr`	`right, what ckk said`
`23:20.57`	`GnomeTank`	`no, but it's why I am a warrior. I am only DW Fury because I am not 70 yet, at 70, I am going back`
`23:20.58`	`vhaarr`	`..`
`23:20.58`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Arrowmaster: if by disstraction, you mean "useless target", i agree. :P`
`23:21.00`	`GnomeTank`	`3 more levels to go`
`23:21.35`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`GnomeTank: I agree, hell I leveled to 70 as prot, but I like to look at the big picture shrug`
`23:21.36`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Ok, this is bizarre.`
`23:21.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`NightHawkTheSane: ive seen a prot warrior kill 3 rogues at once, it was great because they went coming after me`
`23:21.48`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Arrowmaster: rogues are easy kills though :P`
`23:21.54`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Err, wrong channel.`
`23:21.58`	`Myrathi`	`ckknight: I'm not disagreeing; I was just suggesting an extremely useful developer tool for him to have a look at. :)`
`23:21.58`	`GnomeTank`	`My favorite way to kill a Rogue is with a Prot Paladin...Holy Shield :)`
`23:22.28`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: So, I'm transmitting some tables (4) across AceComm, and I want to synchronize the users tables with the recieved tables; I'm thinking I'll just loop and diff with pairs(), got any neat tricks?`
`23:22.29`	`GnomeTank`	`I've had more than Rogue simply impale themselves on it`
`23:22.35`	`GnomeTank`	`and have no idea why I was destroying them`
`23:22.48`	`GnomeTank`	`(yes, I have a 60+ Paladin and Warrior :P I like plate armor, sue me)`
`23:22.58`	`Myrathi`	`The dtevent stuff is invaluable for developing event-driven addons, too. It's just all good. :P`
`23:23.11`	`cladhaire`	`Myrathi: I agree`
`23:23.18`	`vhaarr`	`~dtevent`
`23:23.20`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr: not really.`
`23:23.23`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: alright`
`23:23.41`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: Could you add a ~dtevent? I have no idea what it is.`
`23:23.48`	`cladhaire`	`~devtools`
`23:23.50`	`purl`	`i guess devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet?, or found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5415 for the beta`
`23:23.51`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`23:23.55`	`cladhaire`	`that's /dtevent`
`23:23.57`	`vhaarr`	`aha`
`23:24.16`	`cladhaire`	`something anyone who does addon development should have installed imo`
`23:24.20`	`ckknight`	`Prat has a /dtevent thing built into it`
`23:24.23`	`vhaarr`	`I tried DevTools, I didn't like it.`
`23:24.28`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire: I don't have it installed`
`23:24.32`	`vhaarr`	`Me neither.`
`23:24.34`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: i don't care`
`23:24.36`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`23:24.51`	`cladhaire`	`vhaarr: Not sure what there is to "not like" about it shrug`
`23:24.52`	`ckknight`	`I do addon development, though`
`23:24.55`	`Myrathi`	`And grah.. wish the author of Henge would, I dunno, fix it? :p`
`23:25.01`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: yes, and it was opinion. I don't care.`
`23:25.07`	`cladhaire`	`Myrathi: I was looking at it.`
`23:25.13`	`cladhaire`	`Myrathi: I want a henge for my characters.`
`23:25.16`	`cladhaire`	`btu haven't seen much on it.`
`23:25.40`	`Myrathi`	`It's a great concept - Necronomicon for multiple classes, all-in-one - but guh.. the bugs drive me nuts.`
`23:26.04`	`cladhaire`	`who _is_ the author of it?`
`23:26.22`	`Myrathi`	`I keep updating it, to keep an eye on progress, but I don't use it. :(`
`23:26.34`	`Myrathi`	`Hmm. Not entirely sure.. I see it pass by via CIA-17, occasionally.`
`23:26.40`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: Well, err, not that I don't like it, but I have /dump already, and that's all I need.`
`23:26.59`	`Myrathi`	`Takadi, it seems.`
`23:27.00`	`cladhaire`	`vhaarr: Then you have no need for it, anyone doing event stuff, dtevent is really the best way to do it.`
`23:27.16`	`Myrathi`	`cladhaire: Even if it does take a bit of getting used to =)`
`23:27.49`	`cladhaire`	`Meh i'm turned off already by your description of it =)`
`23:27.53`	`cladhaire`	`have a ss of it in use?`
`23:28.11`	`cladhaire`	`cause i really like sacredbuff`
`23:28.14`	`Scre3m`	`is there an ace addon similiar to Extended Quest Log?`
`23:28.18`	`Myrathi`	`Nope, but: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Henge`
`23:28.18`	`cladhaire`	`but would like one for my drood at least`
`23:28.35`	`cladhaire`	`Myrathi: yeah i saw the wiki, it was utterly uselss =)`
`23:28.38`	`Myrathi`	`S/he still classes it as "under heavy development", so I can't really complain. =)`
`23:28.39`	`vhaarr`	`Scre3m: There are 2 quest addons on wowace; FuBar_QuestsFu and some other thingy, nQuestLog or something.`
`23:28.44`	`GnomeTank`	`Scre3m: No idea what extended quest log does, but I am going to asnwer "QuestFu"`
`23:29.03`	`Scre3m`	`EQL alters the default quest log window`
`23:29.14`	`Pneumatus`	`does anyone know why the TOC box on my ClassLoot wiki page is showing No Data?`
`23:29.26`	`vhaarr`	`Pneumatus: Have you touched it since the initial commit?`
`23:29.33`	`Pneumatus`	`yeh`
`23:29.35`	`Scre3m`	`what does nQuestLog do?`
`23:29.39`	`vhaarr`	`then no, I have no idea.`
`23:29.40`	`Pneumatus`	`once i think`
`23:29.48`	`Myrathi`	`Touch it! Touch it! You know you wanna! /sleaze`
`23:29.49`	`vhaarr`	`Pneumatus: Make sure you've touched it.`
`23:29.56`	`Pneumatus`	`i added another lib so i did touch it for sure`
`23:30.13`	`Pneumatus`	`will touch again for love`
`23:30.14`	`vhaarr`	`Should talk to Tekkub, then, I think.`
`23:30.19`	`Pneumatus`	`just to be sure`
`23:30.29`	`GnomeTank`	`Scre3m: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/NQuestLog`
`23:30.51`	`Scre3m`	`ty`
`23:31.06`	`CIA-17`	`03pneumatus * r27582 10ClassLoot/ClassLoot.toc:`
`23:31.06`	`CIA-17`	`ClassLoot:`
`23:31.06`	`CIA-17`	`- Touch for <3`
`23:31.20`	`Pneumatus`	`touched.`
`23:31.23`	`ckknight`	`why touch?`
`23:31.25`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27583 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Hyakiss.lua:`
`23:31.25`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Karazhan/Hyakiss:`
`23:31.25`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed bar timer and name display`
`23:31.35`	`GnomeTank`	`Scre3m: Never used that one, but http://www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBar_QuestsFu rocks the socks off of MonkeyQuest, if you ever used that`
`23:32.26`	`ckknight`	`I know it roxxors my soxxors.`
`23:32.55`	`GnomeTank`	`it should, QuestsFu rocks :P I don't think I could have leveled in TBC without it`
`23:33.06`	`GnomeTank`	`because I am too lazy to press "L" and look at the quests, and the stock tracker sucks :P`
`23:33.27`	`Myrathi`	`Pneu: Still didn't update :(`
`23:33.34`	`Myrathi`	`Pneu: Try taking a look at: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Addon_pages_missing_TOC_data`
`23:33.41`	`Myrathi`	`Pneu: See if that helps resolve it?`
`23:33.53`	`durcyn`	`erm, the /files/ cron only runs three times an hour.`
`23:33.54`	`Pneumatus`	`i wish you could click on some coords in questfu and it sets a cart waypoint :D`
`23:34.24`	`GnomeTank`	`Pneumatus: Hmm, that would be awsome...but where would the coords come from? I assume you mean coords for the quest objective, or giver`
`23:34.52`	`GnomeTank`	`giver wouldn't be so hard, capture the loc when you get the quest...but the quest objective would be iffy`
`23:35.10`	`Myrathi`	`How's QuestsFu differ from MQ? Never, yet, found a reason to stop using MQ.`
`23:35.16`	`ckknight`	`for the questfu log, do you think it should highlight words like "road", "island", etc?`
`23:35.33`	`Pneumatus`	`the questfu log has coords on it which it adds when you speak to the giver`
`23:35.54`	`GnomeTank`	`Myrathi: It's more compact, Ace'ified, integrates cleanly in to FuBar, uses less memory, doesn't have annoying bugs, etc`
`23:36.29`	`GnomeTank`	`only thing that annoys me is the "you can only track 5 quests" thing, but I am not sure if that is a client limitation, or a QuestsFu one, haven't looked at the source`
`23:36.43`	`Pneumatus`	`Myrathi: just doubled checked my dep lines, they are both spelled correctly and there are wiki pages for each of the deps names`
`23:36.46`	`GnomeTank`	`but it has to be QuestsFu, because it will auto-track as many as you have`
`23:36.47`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I believe that's a limitation of blizzard's quest tracker`
`23:37.10`	`GnomeTank`	`NightHawkTheSane: Maybe, but lets say I never shift-click track one, just let it auto-track the ones I get objectives for, it will track an infinite number`
`23:37.30`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`maybe, but i know if you manually add quests, after 5 it will stop you`
`23:37.40`	`GnomeTank`	`yah`
`23:37.53`	`ckknight`	`you can use the QuestFu tooltip as a tracker in and of itself`
`23:37.59`	`Pneumatus`	`does 'Sorren' hang out here under any guise?`
`23:38.05`	`ckknight`	`or use the proper QuestFu tracker (which goes up to 5)`
`23:38.21`	`GnomeTank`	`yah, I use the proper track, and it's 5 manual, it will track an infinite number of autos`
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`23:38.54`	`GnomeTank`	`well, maybe not infinite, but I've never reached the limit, and I tend to batch quests, I've had it listing 10+ (Done) before`
`23:39.09`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah i just use the default blizz tracker with questfu, and let it auto-track. ive never really had a problem`
`23:39.33`	`GnomeTank`	`in either case, that is a tiny tiny issue, not really worth caring about...over all QuestsFu rocks`
`23:40.05`	`GnomeTank`	`ckknight: To answer your question...why would I want "road" or "island" highlighted? Just as a quick cue for what I was looking for? Might be useful...but that could be a large word list`
`23:40.25`	`ckknight`	`GnomeTank: I currently highlight all directions (south, southwest, left, etc)`
`23:40.37`	`ckknight`	`as well as it highlighting capitalized words`
`23:40.48`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27584 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua:`
`23:40.48`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Karazhan/Attumen:`
`23:40.48`	`CIA-17`	`- fix phase detection`
`23:40.49`	`ckknight`	`which it assumes to be proper names`
`23:40.50`	`GnomeTank`	`good point`
`23:40.58`	`GnomeTank`	`yah, expanding that list might be cool`
`23:41.06`	`ckknight`	`so highlighting road, island, etc. would be a good idea I think`
`23:41.11`	`GnomeTank`	`better yet, making said list user expandable would be really cool`
`23:41.18`	`Myrathi`	`Hmm. Does QuestFu add creature/item info to the tooltip, too?`
`23:41.28`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`23:41.48`	`ckknight`	`GnomeTank: I'd prefer if everyone were to share the glory, and have it be in the addon proper`
`23:42.21`	`Myrathi`	`Then the one thing I refuse to use any other mod than MQ for is now moot =) I shall grab QuestFu to try it.`
`23:42.27`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r27585 10Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.lua:`
`23:42.27`	`CIA-17`	`Stitch-1.0:`
`23:42.28`	`CIA-17`	`- self is our friend.`
`23:42.28`	`CIA-17`	`- Use PT3 for everything (instead of PT2 for one thing and PT3 for the other...)`
`23:42.28`	`CIA-17`	`- Hooking should now hopefully work correctly when the lib is upgraded`
`23:42.33`	`Myrathi`	`s/thing/reason/`
`23:42.43`	`GnomeTank`	`Myrathi: You won't be disappointed`
`23:43.40`	`Pneumatus`	`am i right in thinking mobhealth3 only deals with health, not drops etc the mob has (like mobinfo2 does)`
`23:43.41`	`Myrathi`	`I've just never had a reason to change, since MQ's always done exactly what I needed =)`
`23:43.47`	`durcyn`	`Pneumatus: you are correct.`
`23:43.50`	`Myrathi`	`Pneumatus: Yup`
`23:44.03`	`Pneumatus`	`is there an ace2 equivalent to MI2 then?`
`23:44.08`	`Pneumatus`	`saving drops etc`
`23:44.10`	`GnomeTank`	`Myrathi: Yah, I just switched because Ace mods are so much more resource friendly....the only non-Ace mod I use is Bongo Bars at this point`
`23:44.13`	`durcyn`	`not at present, no.`
`23:44.24`	`Myrathi`	`BongoBars?`
`23:44.29`	`GnomeTank`	`yah, bar mod`
`23:44.42`	`ckknight`	`I like Bartender3 shrug`
`23:44.44`	`Myrathi`	`Ah. I still use the bliz bars. :p`
`23:44.47`	`durcyn`	`if you desire that "bloat my savedvariables beyond all conceivable or reasonable limits", then MobInfo2 is the addon for you.`
`23:44.52`	`Pneumatus`	`i use blizz bars :)`
`23:44.54`	`Pneumatus`	`and omnicc`
`23:44.55`	`GnomeTank`	`last time I used bartender it wouldn't let me use more than 5 bars, and I use 7`
`23:45.02`	`Myrathi`	`And er... AutoBar.. and oCD.. omnicc. O_o`
`23:45.05`	`GnomeTank`	`OmniCC was written by the person who wrote Bongos`
`23:45.17`	`durcyn`	`Myrathi: autobar is on the wowace svn, fyi`
`23:45.19`	`ckknight`	`I use Auctioneer (bank only)`
`23:45.23`	`ckknight`	`and !OmniCC`
`23:45.24`	`*** join/#wowace BankZ (i=BankZ@c-68-41-47-8.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)`
`23:45.26`	`ckknight`	`and SmartBuff`
`23:45.29`	`Pneumatus`	`i used to use CT_BarMod`
`23:45.32`	`Myrathi`	`Yup. Is where I found 'em actually. ;)`
`23:45.38`	`Pneumatus`	`but i am pleased to say i replaced every ct mod :)`
`23:45.52`	`Myrathi`	`I went down the entire list one day, poked anything that looked interesting and then pruned off the stuff I didn't like/want/need.`
`23:46.23`	`GnomeTank`	`I've used them all...CT_Bar, Discord, etc...Bongos I have setup to look exactly like my Discord setup in half the resource usage, and 1/100th the setup time`
`23:46.23`	`durcyn`	`Myrathi: color me confused then, oCD was yanked from svn, and omnicc never was.`
`23:46.24`	`Myrathi`	`durcyn: I must've grabbed it before it was, then. Must've tagged it as a fav on WoWI or something.`
`23:46.25`	`binder`	`I want the old nurfed action bars back`
`23:46.37`	`Pneumatus`	`it makes me sad that RatingBuster isnt on the svn :<`
`23:46.47`	`Myrathi`	`RatingBuster?`
`23:47.02`	`Pneumatus`	`converts the crappy new rating types to the old percentage style`
`23:47.03`	`*** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire)`
`23:47.03`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ`
`23:47.25`	`Myrathi`	`Ah.`
`23:47.26`	`GnomeTank`	`Oh, you mean the "my character gets weaker as I level up..wtf?" ratings?`
`23:47.33`	`Pneumatus`	`that would be the ones :)`
`23:47.41`	`Pneumatus`	`10 levels on my hunter and i dropped by 8% crit`
`23:47.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I like ratings`
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`23:47.46`	`GnomeTank`	`yah`
`23:48.05`	`Myrathi`	`Gotta 'love' Bliz's idea of scaling.`
`23:48.06`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`was an elegant solution, really.`
`23:48.09`	`Myrathi`	`Oh, wait, no.. it's retarded.`
`23:48.10`	`GnomeTank`	`They are retarded...I should never get WEAKER when I level...I hate leveling up now, because it means I lose hit%, dodge%, crit% and parry%`
`23:48.16`	`Pneumatus`	`yeh i cant fault the idea behind it`
`23:48.29`	`Pneumatus`	`just for joe public doing the maths in your head is a nightmare`
`23:48.32`	`Gngsk`	`Myrathi, how else would they make you start the game all over again?`
`23:48.38`	`GnomeTank`	`they basically just said "WOW is 100% about gear, suck it"`
`23:48.42`	`kenlyric\|home`	`GnomeTank: lol... you get new gear every level.`
`23:48.45`	`Pneumatus`	`i cant be arsed to work out what 12 crit rating is at level 67 and will then be at level 70`
`23:48.50`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`GnomeTank: welcome to EVERY MMO EVER MADE. :P`
`23:49.06`	`GnomeTank`	`kenlyric\|home: No I don't, there is almost NO DPS plate being dropped by quests, it all Paladin plate`
`23:49.06`	`Myrathi`	`NHTS: CoH. :P`
`23:49.21`	`Myrathi`	`GnomeTank: That changes when you hit ~67.`
`23:49.26`	`GnomeTank`	`I am 67`
`23:49.29`	`binder`	`you don't lose anything leveling up`
`23:49.36`	`GnomeTank`	`Maybe when I head to blade's edge it will be better`
`23:49.39`	`GnomeTank`	`but in Nagrand it still sucks`
`23:49.43`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Myrathi: one or two exceptions only prove the rule. Most mmo's that have ever been made are gear oriented :P`
`23:49.49`	`Myrathi`	`Then expect to see more stuff start to show up that you might want. :)`
`23:50.14`	`Myrathi`	`NHTS: Yeah. It's the whole greedy "look what I got! /squee/" mentality.`
`23:50.14`	`GnomeTank`	`binder: yes you do, you're ratings scale down, I leveled up the other day and lost .8% crit, nearly 1 full %, that was my gift for dinging`
`23:50.15`	`Pneumatus`	`your 67 and still in nagrand?`
`23:50.22`	`*** join/#wowace FryGuy (i=fryguy@c-24-23-19-160.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)`
`23:50.32`	`GnomeTank`	`Pneumatus: I finish zones before I move on, I milk them`
`23:50.33`	`binder`	`I just hit 66 and am starting nagrand`
`23:50.48`	`GnomeTank`	`Pneumatus: Did all of Zanger, all of Terrokar, and had a ton of rest`
`23:51.04`	`Myrathi`	`NHTS: Besides, even CoX had it to some extent: everyone wanted the best and shiniest mix of enhs.`
`23:51.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Myrathi: not always, it's just in many cases it's the best way to design an mmo. You can itemize infinitely, infinite character progression isn't always possible :P`
`23:51.15`	`Pneumatus`	`fair enough, i raced 70 and i dinged in netherstorm, some of our guys dinged in BEM tho`
`23:51.15`	`binder`	`yea, I've done every single quest possible in every zone, plus instances 5-6x`
`23:51.29`	`Myrathi`	`NHTS: I don't disagree. :)`
`23:51.30`	`Pneumatus`	`and i only did each instance once for quests`
`23:51.48`	`GnomeTank`	`Pneumatus: Half my guild raced to 70, I said f'it, I will catch up eventually, plus the rep grind for instance keys thing...I am not real hot on, I don't think I am going to do much end-gaming in TBC`
`23:52.02`	`binder`	`I re-rolled with a couple of friends on auchindoun`
`23:52.08`	`binder`	`it came out the day of BC`
`23:52.11`	`GnomeTank`	`I was a "omgwtfbbhardcoreraider" in 1.x, and I will never do it again`
`23:52.19`	`Pneumatus`	`i was the first 70 hunter on my realm :)`
`23:52.23`	`Pneumatus`	`about the 6th 70 i think`
`23:52.24`	`Myrathi`	`Mm. I'm levelling up on one of the new US realms. Kinda fun.`
`23:52.35`	`binder`	`which one?`
`23:52.38`	`binder`	`I think it sucks`
`23:52.50`	`GnomeTank`	`We had our first Shammy to 70 the Tuesrday after release...ONE WEEK, that is crazy`
`23:52.55`	`binder`	`I've always played horde, and on this server it's like 5:1 horde`
`23:53.06`	`Myrathi`	`Hum. Think it starts with an F. Ummmmm.... lemme check my WTF folder =P`
`23:53.29`	`Myrathi`	`Farstriders.`
`23:53.31`	`Pneumatus`	`i dinged on the 20th`
`23:53.33`	`binder`	`there are no alliance around anywhere, queue times are going to be horrible, the whole battlegroup is that way`
`23:53.47`	`nymbia`	`GnomeTank: its like 3 runs per instance for the rep for the heroic key.`
`23:53.48`	`Pneumatus`	`or the 19th i forget`
`23:54.18`	`Pneumatus`	`the only heroic key i have is tempest keep :)`
`23:54.19`	`GnomeTank`	`nymbia: Right, but then you need all the crap for the Kharzan and the 25-man instance keys...if I wanted to do more Onyxia key quests, I would level up characters and do that :P`
`23:54.27`	`Pneumatus`	`and that was only from learning TK instances for arcatraz key`
`23:54.39`	`Myrathi`	`Farstriders seems insane: I've barely seen another horde during levelling, even during peak, and the auction house is abysmal. :\ See more alliance in the barrens than I do horde.`
`23:54.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ive got every heroic key.. it was.. easy`
`23:54.57`	`binder`	`I hope blizzard made the key chains the same for both factions`
`23:55.05`	`Pneumatus`	`i am too lazy to run shattered halls and steamvaults`
`23:55.05`	`binder`	`none of the alliance vs horde onyxia chain crap`
`23:55.25`	`binder`	`thrallmar rep in SH`
`23:55.33`	`Pneumatus`	`spent the last few days levelling my druid and shaman instead`
`23:55.34`	`Myrathi`	`Anyway.. got QuestFu now. Gonna go play some.`
`23:55.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`binder: for the most part yes, the key chains are from neutral factions, so there's no difference`
`23:55.46`	`nymbia`	`GnomeTank: 'all the crap' for the KZ key is 2 solo quests then strolling into 3 instances and looting something on the ground / talking to an NPC. you dont have to kill a single elite mob to get fully keyed for KZ.`
`23:56.09`	`binder`	`Are you all on EU servers?`
`23:56.13`	`GnomeTank`	`nymbia: I thought you had to complete those 3 instances?`
`23:56.17`	`Pneumatus`	`yeh, our guild is leaving instances open for people to get key fragments just to get them attuned`
`23:56.20`	`vhaarr`	`GnomeTank: No.`
`23:56.20`	`NeoTron`	`nymbia: err`
`23:56.23`	`Myrathi`	`binder: I'm on EU and US. ;)`
`23:56.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`GnomeTank: you have to complete Shadow Lab`
`23:56.26`	`CIA-17`	`03archarodim * r27586 10Decursive/ (11 files): (log message trimmed)`
`23:56.26`	`CIA-17`	`Decursive:`
`23:56.26`	`CIA-17`	`- Added two new sets of options:`
`23:56.26`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:56.26`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:56.27`	`CIA-17`	`- Added spacers in MUFs option menu for better readability`
`23:56.28`	`Pneumatus`	`<-- EU`
`23:56.29`	`CIA-17`	`- Re-organized Dcr_DebuffsFrame.lua:`
`23:56.30`	`NeoTron`	`nymbia: you need to do CoT x2 too`
`23:56.30`	`vhaarr`	`GnomeTank: They are changing that in 2.0.7, though.`
`23:56.37`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`But the key parts in steamvault/arcatraz are only part way in`
`23:56.43`	`Pneumatus`	`NeoTron: you dont`
`23:56.47`	`binder`	`ahh no wonder`
`23:56.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`NeoTron: why 2x? o_0`
`23:56.56`	`Pneumatus`	`NeoTron: you just need to get into an instance that someone has completed and talk to medivh`
`23:57.00`	`NeoTron`	`you can't even get into the black morass without doing old hillsbrad`
`23:57.04`	`GnomeTank`	`well, I doubt I will be 70 and get the "free pass" before 2.0.7, so I wil lget stuck doing the instances, hehe`
`23:57.08`	`Pneumatus`	`you do have to do old hillsbrad tho`
`23:57.14`	`GnomeTank`	`NeoTron: Yah, but Old Hillsbrad is cool as hell? Why wouldn't you want to?`
`23:57.28`	`GnomeTank`	`I've run it four times, just cause`
`23:57.30`	`Pneumatus`	`do all horde chars get changed to humans in old hillsbrad?`
`23:57.35`	`binder`	`yes`
`23:57.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`NeoTron: those are two different instances, its not doing the same thign twice :P`
`23:57.39`	`Pneumatus`	`hot`
`23:58.01`	`NeoTron`	`GnomeTank: so are the other instances imho`
`23:58.03`	`GnomeTank`	`I repeat, Old Hillsbrad is freakin' sweet, why wouldn't you want to do?`
`23:58.06`	`*** join/#wowace RUBiK (n=rubik@cpe-76-167-55-89.socal.res.rr.com)`
`23:58.06`	`binder`	`I don't get why blizzard gave horde a pretty race`
`23:58.17`	`GnomeTank`	`NeoTron: Some are, some aren't...I could do without ever seeing Slave Pens or Underbog again`
`23:58.21`	`GnomeTank`	`Mana Tombs is...eh`
`23:58.23`	`Pneumatus`	`s/pretty/pretty gay/`
`23:58.29`	`binder`	`I like mana tombs`
`23:59.27`	`binder`	`AT for a rogue`
`23:59.27`	`Pneumatus`	`i need to farm MT for a bloody enchant pattern that only drops there`
`23:59.27`	`binder`	`is awesome`
`23:59.27`	`nymbia`	`no, you dont need to complete a single instance. Shadow labs, walk into a cleared instance. Arcatraz, walk into an instance that has the first boss then 3 pulls after him dead. steamvault, not a single boss needs to be dead, just 2-3 trash pulls. black morass, walk into a finished instance. so yeah NeoTron is right -- the only instance you need to have completed is old hillsbrad so you can zone into black morass`
`23:59.27`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i dislike mana tombs, only because som eof the caster pulls at the end are a pain. ><`
`23:59.27`	`binder`	`I love it`
`23:59.27`	`NeoTron`	`besides the patch is fixing "doing the quests" more than one group at a time`
`23:59.27`	`NeoTron`	`although I'm not clear that it includes the black morass part`
`23:59.28`	`Pneumatus`	`in shadow labs you dont have to kill murmur to get the fragment`
`23:59.28`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`NeoTron: thats cool`
`23:59.29`	`GnomeTank`	`I'm not worried about it, it's not like getting groups for these instances is hard`
`23:59.31`	`GnomeTank`	`everyone wants to do them`
`23:59.32`	`NeoTron`	`"The items required to complete the Karazhan key quest can now only be looted by the first group in the instance to reach them."`
`23:59.35`	`nymbia`	`its not that hard to run each of those instances once.`
`23:59.38`	`GnomeTank`	`and if more people would use the damn LFG interface, it would be even easier`
`23:59.41`	`NeoTron`	`I agree`
`23:59.44`	`NeoTron`	`it's fun too`
`23:59.52`	`NeoTron`	`I especially enjoy shadow labs`
`23:59.55`	`Pneumatus`	`when is 2.0.7 getting patched in?`

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