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`00:07.34`	`Cyrez`	`vhaarr: I was thinking it might be neat if the Add button in the dialog box in CG could change to Update if the name of an existing set is typed in. That possible?`
`00:08.28`	`vhaarr`	`Cyrez: Yes, it is possible, but it probably won't happen.`
`00:08.36`	`Cyrez`	`Oh, darn. :-P`
`00:08.42`	`vhaarr`	`It's possible but not easy.`
`00:08.50`	`Cyrez`	`I do that a lot when I get a new/better piece to my main set.`
`00:09.23`	`vhaarr`	`Cyrez: You can already edit sets.`
`00:09.31`	`vhaarr`	`Cyrez: Shift-Click them in the Wear menu.`
`00:09.39`	`vhaarr`	`(but the button still says Add)`
`00:09.51`	`Cyrez`	`I know that... That's what I've been doing. ^^`
`00:09.51`	`vhaarr`	`text should be prefilled, though`
`00:09.57`	`vhaarr`	`text is not prefilled?`
`00:10.04`	`Cyrez`	`It's more of a cosmetic thing.`
`00:10.09`	`vhaarr`	`alright`
`00:10.13`	`vhaarr`	`then I will ignore your request`
`00:10.14`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`00:10.16`	`Cyrez`	`:-P`
`00:10.20`	`Cyrez`	`Another idea I had is if Enter worked in that dialog box as well...`
`00:10.36`	`PogoTribal`	`So how is Closetgnome bugged?`
`00:10.44`	`Cyrez`	`I never said it was.`
`00:10.45`	`[dRaCo]`	`it isnt.`
`00:10.47`	`PogoTribal`	`I just got it to replace ItemRack since IR was giving me stupid ass errors.`
`00:11.21`	`PogoTribal`	`I'm just saying because the add-on itself says that there are 1 or 2 issues to be worked out. Just wondering if there's something I have to avoid.`
`00:11.42`	`[dRaCo]`	`there is a way to disable that message`
`00:11.50`	`Thrae`	`PogoTribal: Anything in www.wowace.com/files is not released`
`00:11.51`	`vhaarr`	`It sometimes has problems with offhand/shields and such.`
`00:11.59`	`[dRaCo]`	`havent found out yet how to set that value, though`
`00:12.51`	`Cyrez`	`I did find another bug in the Zone plugin, though.`
`00:13.13`	`vhaarr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:13.20`	`vhaarr`	`Cyrez: Tell me.`
`00:13.34`	`PogoTribal`	`It's ok I don't mind the message itself.`
`00:13.35`	`Cyrez`	`When I logged in inside SW it switched to my city outfit but the element on FuBar didn't reflect the switch.`
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`00:13.51`	`vhaarr`	`aha`
`00:14.34`	`vhaarr`	`That's weird.`
`00:14.46`	`Cyrez`	`It might have been the lack of free slots but then I would have expected it to say that I don't have either outfit on.`
`00:16.48`	`Cyrez`	`Maybe if it could change the * to a - or something to say that it either tried to switch and didn't have enough room or couldn't find something or you changed something without updating the set.`
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`00:19.29`	`_neuron_`	`eeeek, my tloc and tway are broken`
`00:19.29`	`_neuron_`	`this isn't just me right? :P`
`00:20.07`	`Daemona`	`just revert a revision`
`00:21.39`	`SlackerJer`	`it was changed to /way i think`
`00:21.41`	`_neuron_`	`nha, too lazy`
`00:21.47`	`_neuron_`	`way is the normal one, tway = temporary`
`00:21.48`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27819 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Remember the last equipped set when relogging on mount. Drycode.`
`00:21.51`	`_neuron_`	`or is the normal one temporary too now?`
`00:21.59`	`_neuron_`	`either way way is broken too :P`
`00:22.03`	`SlackerJer`	`but there's still a bug in there. needs the x,y to be converted to number`
`00:26.09`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r27820 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:`
`00:26.10`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`00:26.10`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated locales koKR`
`00:28.38`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r27821 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - fix the version check`
`00:29.09`	`_neuron_`	`ckknight, /tway is borked if you dont know about it`
`00:29.16`	`_neuron_`	`actually it's broken even if you do know about it`
`00:29.20`	`ckknight`	`not for me`
`00:29.33`	`ckknight`	`so by saying something is borked doesn't help`
`00:29.35`	`_neuron_`	`svn -m "whops forgot commit" commit`
`00:29.35`	`_neuron_`	`plix`
`00:29.38`	`ckknight`	`how is it borked?`
`00:29.43`	`_neuron_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:29.52`	`ckknight`	`yes it is`
`00:29.57`	`_neuron_`	`and doing it on the map I get : Cartographer-r27810\Cartographer_Notes\Notes.lua:2133: attempt to call method`
`00:30.05`	`_neuron_`	`whops :P`
`00:30.15`	`_neuron_`	`'SetNoteAsWaypoint' (a nil value)`
`00:30.31`	`ckknight`	`works for me`
`00:30.33`	`ckknight`	`sorry`
`00:30.34`	`ckknight`	`update`
`00:30.43`	`_neuron_`	`which rev are you on?`
`00:30.56`	`ckknight`	`27720, looks like`
`00:31.07`	`_neuron_`	`Cartographer Updated r27720 -> r27810`
`00:31.17`	`_neuron_`	`that's from my updating prog :P`
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`00:32.15`	`break19`	`heh, nice, just found a way to get my fps up to around 30 on average.. mind you, I've been averaging 14ish at lowest settings.. ive increased the settings somewhat, and still get better fps..`
`00:32.24`	`_neuron_`	`how break19`
`00:32.28`	`break19`	`running in a window... shrunk to as small as it'll go :p`
`00:32.31`	`_neuron_`	`hehe`
`00:32.42`	`break19`	`which, is about 640x480.`
`00:32.46`	`Arilaw`	`Just use a viewport addon and keep it fullscreen, you'd get better performance.`
`00:32.55`	`break19`	`Arilaw: not really`
`00:32.55`	`Arilaw`	`Running in a window is typically more taxing on system resources.`
`00:33.09`	`break19`	`Arilaw: I'm on a mac, theres no difference in window and fullscreen performance`
`00:33.34`	`break19`	`opengl ftw :)`
`00:33.41`	`Arilaw`	`I can't speak for Mac, I play games other than WoW.`
`00:33.46`	`break19`	`so do I`
`00:33.56`	`break19`	`civ4 rocks`
`00:34.25`	`break19`	`so does wolfet`
`00:34.27`	`[dRaCo]`	`is there a way to run wow with opengl under windows?`
`00:34.38`	`ckknight`	`break19: it's actually more about the compositing engine rather than opengl`
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`00:34.46`	`break19`	`draco: yea, but the windows implemention of opengl sucks`
`00:35.02`	`[dRaCo]`	`yeah, but d3d sucks, too ^^`
`00:35.04`	`Xuerian`	`[dRaCo]: Yes. But A: it sucks, and B: there's no multithreading implementation in it afaik`
`00:35.06`	`_neuron_`	`microsoft is intentionally screwing with opengl on windows..`
`00:35.12`	`Cyrez`	`He's right, though... Windowed vs. full screen has never made a difference on a Mac.`
`00:35.16`	`_neuron_`	`they want people to use directx`
`00:35.24`	`Arilaw`	`_neuron_: No kidding?`
`00:35.31`	`break19`	`_neuron_: but of course`
`00:35.37`	`[dRaCo]`	`can you tell me how?`
`00:35.44`	`[dRaCo]`	`just wanna give it a try?`
`00:35.45`	`_neuron_`	`the new directx runs opengl through directx, instead of directly, it's ridiclous`
`00:36.12`	`Xuerian`	`[dRaCo]: It's a command line switch you need to add to your shortcut. I'd guess -opengl, but google knows.`
`00:36.21`	`break19`	`[dRaCo]: from a command prompt, in the wow dir, .. what he said`
`00:36.23`	`_neuron_`	`-opengl = opengl mode yeah`
`00:36.24`	`[dRaCo]`	`ok, thanks`
`00:36.28`	`break19`	`dammit Xuerian I was typing that :P`
`00:36.29`	`Cyrez`	`I think -ogl`
`00:36.33`	`Xuerian`	`:3`
`00:36.36`	`Cyrez`	`But not sure.`
`00:36.44`	`Yinchie`	`wow doesn't run very well in opengl, performance wise`
`00:36.53`	`Xuerian`	`Not in windows. bleh.`
`00:36.58`	`break19`	`Yinchie: nothing runs well in windows on opengl`
`00:37.00`	`Cyrez`	`-opengl`
`00:37.07`	`Yinchie`	`break19: UT does :)`
`00:37.15`	`Xuerian`	`Ut rox :D`
`00:37.16`	`_neuron_`	`<break19> Yinchie: nothing runs well in windows on opengl <-- s/on opengl//g"`
`00:37.21`	`Yinchie`	`but UT runs better in nix tho`
`00:37.31`	`break19`	`Yinchie: exactly.`
`00:37.39`	`break19`	`because windows opengl sucks :)`
`00:37.43`	`break19`	`_neuron_: heh`
`00:37.54`	`Cyrez`	`Diablo II is faster with Glide.`
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`00:38.05`	`Xuerian`	`Sigh. Someone's going to have to figure out how to slip a proper opengl2 implementation into vista.`
`00:38.27`	`break19`	`heh`
`00:38.53`	`Arilaw`	`If DirectX was the same code but not related to MS nobody would care.`
`00:39.16`	`break19`	`back to my fps thing: its the equivalent of running the game at 640x480 in full screen, except its not massively pixelated on my 1024x768 lcd :p`
`00:39.17`	`Xuerian`	`If DX wasn't related to MS it could be ported to *nix and THEN we wouldn't care`
`00:39.20`	`Xuerian`	`(as much)`
`00:40.19`	`Arilaw`	`Most Windows games are written for DX, run better on it, and typically look better on it too. People need to get over it.`
`00:40.21`	`break19`	`Arilaw: perhaps, but only MS and moronic code-monkeys would code something from scratch when a perfectly viable (and quite good) library exists to do the same thing`
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`00:41.07`	`ckknight`	`DirectX 7 was when it got good`
`00:41.26`	`ckknight`	`you can't deny that DirectX is a pretty good framework now`
`00:41.36`	`break19`	`Arilaw: no.. you know WHY thats true? because MS shafts the game companies that prefer to use a multi-platform library such as opengl, to make cross-platform games.`
`00:41.45`	`Xuerian`	`Arilaw: And that propagates DX-only usage even further. I'm not saying I don't like DX- It's nice, it's good, and I love games made on it. What I don't like, is it's a platform lock-in`
`00:41.47`	`[dRaCo]`	`its performance isn't the best, though.`
`00:41.55`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian: same`
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`00:42.07`	`Arilaw`	`Multiplatform in the sense of for Mac and *nix?`
`00:42.12`	`Xuerian`	`Right.`
`00:42.32`	`Cyrez`	`M$ couldn't make a UI this cool and fast, though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xgl`
`00:43.03`	`Arilaw`	`There's no market for cross-platform games in that definition.`
`00:43.12`	`_neuron_`	`it's vendor lockin that's kept them alive for this long though`
`00:43.14`	`break19`	`Arilaw: correct, if they used the opengl.. it is simply a matter of passing different variables to the compiler`
`00:43.17`	`Arilaw`	`id has done it and the sales for those games blew.`
`00:43.24`	`break19`	`Arilaw: NO market?? what the fuck am I`
`00:43.25`	`Tain`	`I see what you did there. You used a dollar sign when saying MS. That is clever.`
`00:43.26`	`_neuron_`	`their entire buisness is built on forcing people into upgrades they dont need`
`00:43.37`	`Cyrez`	`^^`
`00:43.49`	`Xuerian`	`Arilaw: That's why I said "Lock-in". I wasn't only referring to developers.`
`00:43.52`	`ckknight`	`lol, Tain`
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`00:44.35`	`break19`	`Arilaw: and wow has done it.. and the sales for those.. well.. didnt`
`00:44.38`	`Arilaw`	`break19: Pedantic? :P`
`00:44.45`	`break19`	`so maybe it was the game itself, eh?`
`00:44.49`	`Xuerian`	`Arilaw: I frankly admit; OSX greatly appeals to me now, and I would already be using linux - IF I wasn't locked into the games because I want to play them without jumping through loops`
`00:44.53`	`Cyrez`	`They just wanna make money. With Linux, it's like, "OMG, this is freaking awesome! Now let's try to..."`
`00:45.30`	`Arilaw`	`break19: Do you think it would be reasonable for other developers to invest the time on ports for Mac and *nix (subsequently taking time away from other aspects of the game's development) in the hopes that their game will be as successful on another platform as WoW?`
`00:45.55`	`_neuron_`	`Cyrez, it's not that they want to make money, it's the way they are doing it.`
`00:46.10`	`_neuron_`	`by not being better than the competition, but by intentionally sabotaging it`
`00:46.21`	`Xuerian`	`Arilaw: It's not only success on other platforms that the developers have to gain from making their games multi-platform. They get reputation. Look at Epic.`
`00:46.33`	`Arilaw`	`Look at Valve.`
`00:46.49`	`Xuerian`	`Elaborate your point.`
`00:46.54`	`Xuerian`	`[on]`
`00:47.11`	`PogoTribal`	`Can Bartender save bindings across different characters?`
`00:47.22`	`[dRaCo]`	`it should`
`00:47.22`	`Arilaw`	`Valve shares the same kind of popularity Epic does (moreso IMO) without bothering with multiplatform support.`
`00:47.25`	`PogoTribal`	`I noticed my rogue has the same bindings on the bars as my priest.`
`00:47.30`	`Cyrez`	`I think all game servers should run on Linux and Windows but not all of them do or some of the Linux ports don't run as well as they should...`
`00:47.40`	`PogoTribal`	`[dRaCo]: So it saves with different profiles?`
`00:47.43`	`Yinchie`	`valve populairy is because of Counter-Strike :P`
`00:47.53`	`Tain`	`Aww kids talking about technical issues they know nothing about is so cute.`
`00:47.57`	`[dRaCo]`	`BT uses blizz' keybindings`
`00:47.59`	`Arilaw`	`Valve popularity is because of almost every product theyve released`
`00:48.01`	`break19`	`Arilaw: there IS no investment time, if MS had chosen to use opengl.. thats my POINT`
`00:48.06`	`Xuerian`	`Arilaw: I didn't say multiplatform is the only way to get popularity. Yinchie is right, half-life/CS just owns.`
`00:48.14`	`[dRaCo]`	`and blizz supports char specific bindings`
`00:48.24`	`Arilaw`	`break19: Well then have fun being angry at MS I guess.`
`00:48.28`	`[dRaCo]`	`upper right corner of the keybindings menu, PogoTribal`
`00:48.31`	`Cyrez`	`Valve is popular more for the engines themselves.`
`00:48.35`	`Cyrez`	`HL and Source.`
`00:48.41`	`PogoTribal`	`Ahhh yes! I totally forgot about that tab.`
`00:48.54`	`break19`	`Arilaw: I'm not angry at them, I'm angry at you for saying I didnt exist as a video game consumer and should therefore be ignored.`
`00:48.57`	`Arilaw`	`Valve licensed and modified the Quake and Quake 2 engines for HL so part of that credit goes to id.`
`00:49.20`	`Xuerian`	`Arilaw: I'm curious, is the Source engine based on the Quake engine?`
`00:49.29`	`Arilaw`	`break19: That's why I called you pedantic. I wasn't being literal when I said "there's no market" and you should know that. But there's not an appreciable market for Mac and *nix games for the vast majority of games.`
`00:49.34`	`Arilaw`	`And now I have to answer the door.`
`00:49.37`	`Arilaw`	`brb`
`00:49.58`	`CIA-17`	`03murazorz * r27822 10ColaMachine/Core.lua:`
`00:49.58`	`CIA-17`	`ColaMachine:`
`00:49.58`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`00:50.38`	`break19`	`Arilaw: circular logic is the reason there's no market.. theres no market cuz people dont use em, because they cant get as many games cuz the're no market.. cuz people dont use em... gotta break the circle somehow`
`00:51.05`	`Xuerian`	`Arilaw: Additionally - I agree there is little in the way of market on Mac and *nix - But have you examined the reason why that is? What Break19 said. (Yeah, I know you're afk :P)`
`00:51.23`	`break19`	`and it starts with us.. 1 person at a time, saying we will no longer accept that argument`
`00:51.48`	`Cyrez`	`I'd like to see a game with a delivery system like Steam except it sends you binaries that were compiled for your CPU.`
`00:52.08`	`Tain`	`Please stop, you're making my brain cry.`
`00:52.32`	`Cyrez`	`That stuff makes a difference.`
`00:52.38`	`Cyrez`	`I know that for a fact.`
`00:53.37`	`Cyrez`	`Compile Zlib normally then hack the source to compile for your specific CPU. It's gonna be faster, always. I tested this.`
`00:53.42`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r27823 10sct/ (7 files):`
`00:53.42`	`CIA-17`	`sct:`
`00:53.42`	`CIA-17`	`- Added Spell Reflection Tracking; only works when combat log reports events in correct order.`
`00:53.42`	`CIA-17`	`- Added ability to show outgoing heals over friendly nameplates; see FAQ for more info.`
`00:53.42`	`CIA-17`	`- Temporarily added manual execute/hammer tracking until blizzard fixes 60+ skill auto tracking.`
`00:53.42`	`CIA-17`	`- Added pet buffs to power gain tracking.`
`00:53.47`	`Cyrez`	`Oh, and the library was a lot smaller, too. ^^`
`00:54.09`	`Cyrez`	`Not saying it's a whole lot faster.`
`00:54.27`	`Cyrez`	`Maybe 1-5% depending on what you're doing but that can add up.`
`00:55.50`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r27824 10sct_options/ (9 files):`
`00:55.50`	`CIA-17`	`sct_options:`
`00:55.50`	`CIA-17`	`- Added Spell Reflection Tracking; only works when combat log reports events in correct order.`
`00:55.50`	`CIA-17`	`- Added ability to show outgoing heals over friendly nameplates; see FAQ for more info.`
`00:55.50`	`CIA-17`	`- Temporarily added manual execute/hammer tracking until blizzard fixes 60+ skill auto tracking.`
`00:55.51`	`CIA-17`	`- Added pet buffs to power gain tracking.`
`00:56.14`	`Cyrez`	`Streamlines things a little for starters but there's also gonna be less strain on the CPU because of that.`
`00:58.02`	`Cyrez`	`And you don't really need every single different CPU to do it as I understand it. The way I remember it's just a shortcut for turning on particular CPU extensions like SSE and MMX and 3DNow! and such.`
`00:58.54`	`Cyrez`	`So an Athlon XP can make a Pentium III build since it has SSE.`
`01:04.15`	`vhaarr`	`Okay, so I've decided to start fishing, finally, since the buff foods are too good to ignore nowadays; so, anyone know of a perfect guide to leveling fishing?`
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`01:04.38`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r27825 10sctd/ (localization.lua readme.txt sctd.lua sctd.toc):`
`01:04.38`	`CIA-17`	`sctd:`
`01:04.38`	`CIA-17`	`- Added ability to show damage over enemy nameplates; see FAQ for more info.`
`01:05.35`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r27826 10sctd_options/ (8 files):`
`01:05.35`	`CIA-17`	`sctd_options:`
`01:05.35`	`CIA-17`	`- Added ability to show damage over enemy nameplates; see FAQ for more info.`
`01:07.51`	ag`	`break19: afaik HL1 could easily be compiled to run on MacOS or Linux`
`01:08.09`	ag`	`Valve decided not to though`
`01:08.16`	ag`	`and HL2 uses DirectX only now`
`01:08.20`	`chutwig`	`half-life for the mac was essentially complete but they didn't release it most liekly because of plugin incompatibility`
`01:08.24`	`chutwig`	`likely, too`
`01:09.19`	ag`	`chutwig: as plugins were created using valves addon kit, I guess plugins would be very easy to port`
`01:09.26`	ag`	`if they would need anything but a recompile`
`01:10.08`	`chutwig`	`i can't really think of any other reasons why they wouldn't have done it`
`01:10.25`	`chutwig`	`even the fairly small macintosh games market would've probably still turned a profit`
`01:10.26`	ag`	`Support`
`01:11.10`	ag`	`It means they would have to release patches forever in the future, QA/tech support for one more platform, etc`
`01:11.27`	`chutwig`	`it becomes increasingly irrelevant these days`
`01:11.35`	`Cyrez`	`vhaarr: When you're starting, any level 1-10 zone is fine and it helps to buy the bait. But when you can train up to Journeyman I'd suggest Loch Modan. There's fishing holes with Sagefish. Those restore Health and Mana. Oh, and if you have FishingAce or Fishing Buddy it really helps.`
`01:11.37`	`chutwig`	`directx 8.1 works in vmware fusion now and parallels is probably right behind`
`01:11.54`	`chutwig`	`parallels coherence + directx 9/10 support, why release OS X versions at all any more`
`01:12.12`	ag`	`not sure at what speed those are able to run games on`
`01:12.13`	`Cyrez`	`Oh, and turn on autoloot.`
`01:12.32`	ag`	`for games I think transgaming got a better chance at native speeds`
`01:12.37`	`chutwig`	`we'll see when it's finalized in a non-beta release`
`01:12.43`	ag`	`yeah`
`01:13.25`	ag`	`transgaming isn't a system emulator`
`01:14.03`	`chutwig`	`transgaming is cedega, yeah?`
`01:14.22`	`Xuerian`	`I love the idea of parallels/vmware, but it defeats the purpose at the same time of helping it. If they follow the philosophy of "Any gaming users will be able to run it anyway", then they won't see any need to write platform independantly`
`01:14.31`	`tlund`	`Thrae: I just started using TinyTip and I love it, except for ONE thing, that I really _hate_, and that is the fact that when anchored to the mose cursor, the tooltip covers up whatever you point at. By changing the anchorpoint from BOTTOM to TOPLEFT it is perfect: tSetPt(utooltip, "TOPLEFT", UIParent, "BOTTOMLEFT", x, y)`
`01:14.36`	`tlund`	`Thrae: I would love to hear your comments on this, and ask if it would be possible to make this configurable. (That way I dont have to patch it every time there is a new version commited to SVN, heh)`
`01:14.58`	`Xuerian`	`tlund: Just change the offset...?`
`01:15.15`	`tlund`	`Xuerian: no, that doesnt really work`
`01:15.21`	`Xuerian`	`Worked fine for me.`
`01:15.23`	`chutwig`	`Xuerian: yeah, i get that`
`01:15.36`	`tlund`	`Xuerian: if you change the offset, it will only be in the "right" place for that specific size of tooltip.`
`01:15.48`	`tlund`	`Xuerian: changing the anchor is the "right" thing to do.`
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`01:16.57`	`chutwig`	`and as a mac user i wouldn't necessarily want the game market to completely dry up, but on the other hand if they officially support parallels or darwine as a solution for running games`
`01:17.12`	`Xuerian`	`tlund: I can see that working. I'm simply providing a workaround :p`
`01:17.38`	`tlund`	`Xuerian: well, i alrady worked around it by patching it when i realized the offset-thing didnt do what I wanted :)`
`01:17.42`	`tlund`	`allready`
`01:17.50`	`Xuerian`	`:P`
`01:17.55`	`tlund`	`(i guess its spelled "already")`
`01:18.04`	`tlund`	`me, fail english? unpossible!`
`01:18.07`	`Xuerian`	`I ge tthe point :P`
`01:18.11`	`tlund`	`:)`
`01:18.23`	`tlund`	`but yes, thanks for trying to help out!`
`01:18.26`	`Xuerian`	`Get, the, even, no, I'm, not, native, just, born, lived, raised, here.`
`01:18.54`	`tlund`	`<- swedish.`
`01:19.01`	`chutwig`	`damn swedes!`
`01:19.06`	`tlund`	`..and that means its 02:20, time for bed. :)`
`01:19.12`	`Xuerian`	`:P`
`01:19.29`	`tlund`	`thats 2.20am for you imperialists ;)`
`01:19.31`	`chutwig`	`with their lutefisk and their surstromming`
`01:20.06`	`tlund`	`i have to say "pass" on both lutfist and surstr�mming :)`
`01:20.12`	`tlund`	`FISK`
`01:20.31`	`Xuerian`	`lol.`
`01:21.13`	`tlund`	`good night. :)`
`01:21.16`	`Xuerian`	`nn.`
`01:21.21`	`chutwig`	`stuff is nasty`
`01:23.26`	`PogoTribal`	`What's a good Ace2 font mod?`
`01:23.39`	`chutwig`	`other than clearfont?`
`01:24.06`	`PogoTribal`	`Clearfont2? thank you`
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`01:46.09`	`captainamerican`	`Anyone not idle to answer a question?`
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`01:46.46`	`wobWork`	`You could try =)`
`01:46.54`	`wobWork`	`oh man`
`01:46.56`	`wobWork`	`statemaps =(`
`01:47.02`	`wobWork`	`Sorry =\`
`01:47.47`	`captainamerican`	`I've got my buttons to work EXACTLY like the regular UI buttons. All I need to do is have them change with stealth/shapeshift/stance. And I've failed completely.`
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`01:48.48`	`captainamerican`	`Anyone...?`
`01:49.06`	`ckknight`	`secure states`
`01:49.10`	`ckknight`	`my best guess`
`01:49.36`	`cynyr_`	`which buttons?`
`01:51.35`	`captainamerican`	`My buttons. I've got a mod that emulates the original action buttons precisely, down to the id, but i can't get them to change states.`
`01:51.50`	`cynyr_`	`which mod then?`
`01:52.08`	`captainamerican`	`I've built this from scratch. It is my mod.`
`01:52.47`	`Xuerian`	`<Insert author of Bartender 3 here>`
`01:53.41`	`captainamerican`	`I don't want to write a mountain of code to emulate what Blizzard LETS you do in three lines if you know those three lines.`
`01:54.52`	`cynyr_`	`captainamerican: have you looked at bartenders code?`
`01:55.14`	`captainamerican`	`No, but I'm looking for it now.`
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`01:58.06`	`Xuerian`	`files.wowace.com/Bartender3 ?`
`01:58.14`	`Kirkburn`	`How do you get the BG map to show?`
`01:58.16`	`cynyr_`	`captainamerican: that would be where i would start`
`01:58.58`	`captainamerican`	`cynry_: thanks`
`01:59.35`	`Xuerian`	`Kirkburn: Is it in interface options, or is that the Wpvp objectives?`
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`02:00.19`	`Kirkburn`	`Dammit, strange disconnects`
`02:00.38`	`Xuerian`	`Kirkburn: Is it in interface options, or is that the Wpvp objectives?`
`02:01.34`	`Kirkburn`	`Latter`
`02:01.44`	`Xuerian`	`Durp...`
`02:02.46`	`wobWork`	`So, anyone available to help remote test waypoints? =)`
`02:03.04`	`ilifin`	`remote test?`
`02:03.14`	`ilifin`	`I love waypoints so bring it on :p`
`02:04.13`	`wobWork`	`k`
`02:04.33`	`wobWork`	`I'm going to commit some changes, could you login and see if there are any errors on load? =)`
`02:05.31`	`ilifin`	`want me to SVN down the latest then or?`
`02:05.55`	`wobWork`	`hm, one sec, need to fix my svn rights`
`02:08.34`	`cynyr_`	`captainamerican: no problem :)`
`02:12.07`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r27827 10Cartographer/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer: Drycode fix to start fixes on NoteWaypoints`
`02:13.08`	`wobWork`	`ilifin: Give that a go =)`
`02:14.03`	`Xuerian`	`It makes me sad that Mass Effect is going to be 360 only =\|`
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`02:18.00`	`ilifin`	`wobWork - ok on it`
`02:22.42`	`wobWork`	`ta`
`02:22.57`	`ilifin`	`no errors`
`02:23.00`	`ilifin`	`so whats ne`
`02:23.01`	`ilifin`	`new*`
`02:23.02`	`wobWork`	`^^`
`02:23.05`	`wobWork`	`okay`
`02:23.17`	`wobWork`	`try opening the map, rightclicking on a note and setting that as a waypoint`
`02:23.31`	`wobWork`	`(You updated Cart_Notes as well?)`
`02:23.31`	`ilifin`	`error`
`02:23.44`	`ilifin`	`err only updated main carto`
`02:23.49`	`wobWork`	`should do`
`02:23.53`	`wobWork`	`kk, what's the error?`
`02:24.13`	`Mikma`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr935RwnrpY`
`02:24.15`	`Mikma`	`fail!`
`02:24.32`	`ilifin`	`http://ace.pastey.net/6461`
`02:31.03`	`wobWork`	`ilifin: try /dump NotePoint`
`02:31.04`	`wobWork`	`in game`
`02:31.13`	`wobWork`	`and see if you get anything`
`02:31.50`	`ilifin`	`nil`
`02:32.15`	`wobWork`	`hum`
`02:32.23`	`wobWork`	`are you using WAU?`
`02:32.28`	`wobWork`	`as a package deal?`
`02:32.35`	`ilifin`	`considering I'm on mac, no :P`
`02:32.49`	`wobWork`	`so, the cart_waypoint folder is still in the cart main folder?`
`02:32.50`	`ilifin`	`I can run JAU and update tho, although my las twas 3 hours ago`
`02:33.07`	`ilifin`	`ya, it's there`
`02:33.28`	`ilifin`	`running a JAU update`
`02:33.37`	`wobWork`	`shouldn't be necessary =\`
`02:33.45`	`wobWork`	`Can you pastey your cartographer.toc?`
`02:33.58`	`wobWork`	`I'm thinking you might be getting a loading error if that object doesn't exist`
`02:34.18`	`ilifin`	`nothing in bugsack that hints at it`
`02:34.44`	`ilifin`	`I'll do a full restart and change character`
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`02:35.51`	`ilifin`	`different character, no login errors`
`02:36.08`	`ilifin`	`setting waypoint now spams errors`
`02:36.25`	`ilifin`	`...ns\Cartographer\Cartographer_Waypoints\Waypoints.lua:571: attempt to index upvalue 'waypointFrame' (a nil value):`
`02:36.29`	`ilifin`	`being spammed`
`02:36.57`	`Tenebra`	`I know that your updates seem to break CorpseWay`
`02:37.11`	`wobWork`	`yes`
`02:37.19`	`wobWork`	`CorpseWay is using the old api`
`02:37.23`	`wobWork`	`I'll fix that tonight`
`02:37.34`	`ilifin`	`wobWork, http://ace.pastey.net/6462`
`02:37.35`	`ilifin`	`my toc`
`02:38.37`	`wobWork`	`oh man that's weird =\`
`02:39.39`	`wobWork`	`something really isn't being loaded =\`
`02:39.52`	`wobWork`	`ilifin: /dump WayPoint`
`02:40.06`	`ilifin`	`nil`
`02:40.34`	`wobWork`	`/dump Cartographer_Waypoints ?`
`02:40.56`	`ilifin`	`huuuuuuuge thingie :p`
`02:41.01`	`wobWork`	`hehe`
`02:41.06`	`wobWork`	`at least -thats- there`
`02:41.42`	`wobWork`	`where in game are you atm?`
`02:41.52`	`ilifin`	`ironforge`
`02:41.59`	`ilifin`	`tried to set waypoint to the flightmaster`
`02:42.07`	`ilifin`	`which, mind you, worked before I updated :p`
`02:42.08`	`wobWork`	`using the map?`
`02:42.12`	`ilifin`	`yea`
`02:42.21`	`ilifin`	`opened map, right click, set as waypoint, spam errors`
`02:44.49`	`wobWork`	`alright then, reverting for the moment`
`02:45.04`	`wobWork`	`The rightclick-set -used- to work before update?`
`02:45.45`	`ilifin`	`ya`
`02:45.52`	`ilifin`	`I used it numerous times`
`02:46.31`	`wobWork`	`k`
`02:48.46`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r27828 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: Cartographer_Notes: Reverting til I can get to a WoW`
`02:49.37`	`PHL-Chuck`	`got an idea for notes, public and private notes cause some people whine when you are doing it for quests`
`02:50.24`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r27829 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (NotePoint.lua Waypoints.lua): Cartographer_Waypoints: Reverting til I can get to a WoW`
`02:50.40`	`sylvanaar`	`good morning`
`02:50.43`	`wobWork`	`ilifin: Could you svn update that? And check it's back to as it was earlier?`
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`02:51.02`	`wobWork`	`I think it takes a few minutes for the zipfiles to update, so just grab it from the svn`
`02:56.00`	`ilifin`	`wobWork - o sure`
`02:59.09`	`hugo546`	`hi`
`02:59.41`	`hugo546`	`any good new tbc addons ? i was busy playin wow all day for last 14days ;d`
`02:59.52`	`ilifin`	`wobWork - the update spams errors too`
`03:00.02`	`ilifin`	`[2007/02/12 03:59:33-834-x1]: Cartographer-r27829\Cartographer_Notes\Notes.lua:2133: attempt to call method 'SetNoteAsWaypoint' (a nil value)`
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`03:03.20`	`break19`	`hmm.. one of my addons is causing wow to generate an error upon logout.. if I do it while in fullscreen I gotta kill the app, window mode I just submit the report and move on.`
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`03:03.59`	`wobWork`	`okay`
`03:04.03`	`wobWork`	`that was the original error =)`
`03:04.07`	`wobWork`	`that's fine then`
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`03:04.45`	`wobWork`	`I'll leave it as broken as such til I get home`
`03:06.18`	`hugo`	`any idea why i was on this server 2x ? ;d`
`03:06.37`	`wobWork`	`Perhaps another hugo?`
`03:06.44`	`wobWork`	`Your evil twin?`
`03:06.49`	`wobWork`	`Do you have a goatee?`
`03:08.27`	`hugo`	`;d`
`03:08.29`	`hugo`	`shrug`
`03:09.20`	`hugo`	`what's the bigwigslod.bat in bigwings for ?`
`03:10.28`	`hugo`	`i used it, it makes directories in addons, i used it again and it deleted them ;o`
`03:10.49`	`ilifin`	`makes bigwigs load on demand afaik`
`03:10.54`	`ilifin`	`instead of always bineg active`
`03:10.58`	`hugo`	`and now the files are gone`
`03:11.00`	`hugo`	`;x`
`03:11.25`	`ilifin`	`can't help you there sadly, .bat files aren't really compatible with macs :p`
`03:11.30`	`hugo`	`even if i run updater they not redownload, think i must delete bigwings dir`
`03:11.48`	`hugo`	`there is .sh also`
`03:13.03`	`hugo`	`it says like:`
`03:13.05`	`hugo`	`@BWL - Has no public versions - Skipping`
`03:13.05`	`hugo`	`@ZG - Has no public versions - Skipping`
`03:13.09`	`hugo`	`? ;-o`
`03:16.02`	`break19`	`question about the database sharing filters.. if the database is checked, does it allow or disallow the receive of notes?`
`03:16.15`	`wobWork`	`allow?`
`03:18.53`	`break19`	`yes, found that out. :)`
`03:19.16`	`break19`	`now I just wish I could have a notification of when the broadcast is complete :p`
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`03:19.27`	`Sole`	`hi friends`
`03:23.19`	`Sole`	`:(`
`03:25.09`	`wobWork`	`Heya Sole!`
`03:25.39`	`Sole`	`hi`
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`03:26.54`	`nymbia`	`hi sole! ;)`
`03:27.10`	`Sole`	`ok so Ive hit 70 now`
`03:27.15`	`Xuerian`	`What's the matter, solo-bear?`
`03:27.16`	`Sole`	`time to code again lol`
`03:27.30`	`Sole`	`actually time to do gruul's lair but meh`
`03:27.38`	`Sole`	`first boss down last night ^^`
`03:28.02`	`Sole`	`Im gonna add a filter to Antagonist`
`03:28.09`	`Sole`	`to filter out spells the user doesnt want to see`
`03:28.25`	`Sole`	`but Im thinkin, shoulder I have 3 separate filters for each spell type?`
`03:28.51`	`Sole`	`for example, some user may want to see the duration of a buff but not the cooldown of that buff`
`03:29.01`	`Sole`	`so I think I'll have to go with 3 filters :(`
`03:29.23`	`nymbia`	`yeah`
`03:29.38`	`Sole`	`Ive gotta decide on implementation now`
`03:29.52`	`Sole`	`I guess I could create a gui which fills up a list from a table`
`03:31.05`	`Sole`	`hmm`
`03:31.14`	`Sole`	`whats an easier way to go about this >_<`
`03:31.34`	`Sole`	`problem is, I'll have a table with the filtered out spells which I can use to generate a list for the gui`
`03:31.58`	`Sole`	`nvm figured it out`
`03:32.16`	`Sole`	`it just wont be too pleasant unfortunately :(`
`03:33.55`	`Sole`	`what I'll have to do is iterate through the table of filtered spells, and remove those spells from the table which contains all the non-filtered spells`
`03:34.21`	`Sole`	`thats kinda messy`
`03:35.16`	`Sole`	`anyone have a better suggestion?`
`03:35.57`	`Sole`	`quiet you`
`03:36.00`	`break19`	`heh`
`03:36.15`	`Sole`	`where the hell is everyone?`
`03:36.23`	`Sole`	`wheres my friend ck? :(`
`03:36.33`	`ckknight`	`I have never left you, child`
`03:36.50`	`Sole`	`thats creep how you say something everytime I ask where you are`
`03:37.53`	`Sole`	`Ck, do you see what Im trying to do?`
`03:38.45`	`ckknight`	`no`
`03:38.50`	`ckknight`	`then again, I haven't looked`
`03:39.23`	`Sole`	`that could cause a problem`
`03:39.36`	`Sole`	`Ill say it again since Ive composed my thoughts now`
`03:40.15`	`Sole`	`Im implementing a spell filter, currently I have a table with all the spells which will be shown, I will also have a table which contains all the filtered spells`
`03:40.40`	`Sole`	`to configure this filter I'll have to use a GUI`
`03:42.23`	`Sole`	`is there any other way to display the list of all the spells while removing all the spells in the filter table from it`
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`03:42.45`	`wobWork`	`as in using the spellbook?`
`03:43.30`	`Sole`	`no`
`03:43.41`	`Sole`	`as in I have a file which just contains a table of spells and some info about em`
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`03:44.29`	`[dRaCo]`	`only thing I can think of is a linked list with flags wether to show a spell or not`
`03:44.38`	`[dRaCo]`	`dunno if thats possible with lua, though`
`03:44.50`	`Sole`	`yeah it is`
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`03:45.30`	`[dRaCo]`	`would imho make the handling easier`
`03:46.42`	`[dRaCo]`	`and you wouldnt have any redundancy`
`03:48.07`	`Sole`	`I'll think bout it :)`
`03:48.09`	`Sole`	`later`
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`04:09.13`	`todd`	`is it possible to see what guild people are in when you /who and the window comes up`
`04:09.17`	`todd`	`or is that information not sent`
`04:09.30`	`wobWork`	`what what?`
`04:09.35`	`wobWork`	`oh guild`
`04:09.47`	`wobWork`	`I read that as looking for guild people while in /who =P`
`04:10.01`	`wobWork`	`but yeah, isn't there an option in the dropdown?`
`04:10.02`	`todd`	`lol`
`04:10.15`	`todd`	`oh nice`
`04:10.18`	`todd`	`didn't notice that`
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`04:23.18`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r27830 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: added a complete message when after a dump`
`04:28.14`	`wobWork`	`yay`
`04:29.40`	`art3mis`	`yay game server crashed`
`04:29.51`	`ckknight`	`I still need to come up with a better name for AceOptions data table :-P`
`04:29.54`	`ckknight`	`blah`
`04:30.03`	`ckknight`	`also need to make Parser-3.0`
`04:30.38`	`ckknight`	`blah`
`04:30.46`	`art3mis`	`i love that my entire bugsack is full of nothing but cart errors ;P`
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`04:30.58`	`art3mis`	`it makes me think of ckk each and every second im in the game`
`04:31.06`	`art3mis`	`;)`
`04:31.06`	`ckknight`	`not my bugs.`
`04:31.42`	`art3mis`	`Tried to call variable 'ckknight_is_so_totally_awesome' value returned 'nil'.`
`04:31.47`	`art3mis`	`ha ha!`
`04:31.56`	`RobinC`	`can someone help me with using OneStorage ? can't see how to get to use the thing in the first place... (sorry, long term php+c etc coder, but new to lua)`
`04:32.11`	`art3mis`	`open yer bank`
`04:32.15`	`art3mis`	`let it stock it`
`04:32.24`	`art3mis`	`bind onestaorage to a key`
`04:32.28`	`RobinC`	`i meant in terms of using it as a lib/ ;-)`
`04:32.38`	`art3mis`	`oh`
`04:32.54`	`Kaelten`	`RobinC: whats up?`
`04:32.55`	`art3mis`	`i dont think its a lib like that`
`04:32.57`	`Kaelten`	`:)`
`04:32.59`	`art3mis`	`is it?`
`04:33.00`	`Kaelten`	`art3mis: it is`
`04:33.00`	`RobinC`	`trying to do a bag replacement - got it working using ace etc, but now trying to use OneStorage to keep things "local" iykwim`
`04:33.03`	`art3mis`	`neat`
`04:33.05`	`RobinC`	`drat :-/`
`04:33.13`	`RobinC`	`oh good :-)`
`04:33.20`	`art3mis`	`kael owns it so he knows better than i do`
`04:33.29`	`RobinC`	`cool :-)`
`04:33.40`	`art3mis`	`actually kael owns .`
`04:33.41`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`04:33.46`	`art3mis`	`i blame him for ace`
`04:33.46`	`Kaelten`	`so whats up?`
`04:34.07`	`RobinC`	`sorry, not registered so can't go private`
`04:34.07`	`break19`	`hey art.. that brown stuff on ya nose aint chocolate.. sheesh :P`
`04:34.16`	`RobinC`	`trying to put it in the :new() says it's not a mixin`
`04:34.22`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`04:34.24`	`Kaelten`	`its not.`
`04:34.26`	`Kaelten`	`:)`
`04:34.33`	`RobinC`	`and as i don't know lua well enough... ;-)`
`04:34.44`	`art3mis`	`brown stuff?`
`04:34.50`	`art3mis`	`it should be icing sugar`
`04:35.00`	`art3mis`	`yeah.......iceing sugar`
`04:35.10`	`Kaelten`	`self.storage = AceLibrary("OneStorage-2.0")`
`04:35.17`	`RobinC`	`ooh`
`04:35.30`	`Kaelten`	`or local storage = AceLibrary("OneStorage-2.0")`
`04:36.48`	`Kaelten`	`it requires AceDB AceLocale AceHook and AceEvent`
`04:37.24`	`RobinC`	`hrm - coming up with an error in OneStorage.lua line 141 - attempt to acces "self"`
`04:37.52`	`Kaelten`	`storage:BagInfo`
`04:37.57`	`Kaelten`	`not storage.BagInfo`
`04:38.08`	`RobinC`	`doh`
`04:38.32`	`Kaelten`	`don't forget to register your db`
`04:39.18`	`RobinC`	`same db as the addon itself?`
`04:39.45`	`Kaelten`	`like this`
`04:39.45`	`Kaelten`	`self.storage = AceLibrary("OneStorage-2.0")`
`04:39.45`	`Kaelten`	`self.storage:RegisterDB(self, self.db)`
`04:39.50`	`Kaelten`	`thats the code from OneView`
`04:39.55`	`RobinC`	`:-)`
`04:41.58`	`RobinC`	`self.storage:BagInfo(nil, nil, 0) ?`
`04:42.28`	`RobinC`	`actually, let me grab oneview and save stupid questions ;-P`
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`04:44.08`	`Kaelten`	`:)`
`04:44.10`	`RobinC`	`just to say - trying to make a bag thing that's a single window, but catagorisable, sort of like the professional catagories, with either slots flowing, or one item per line list`
`04:44.24`	`RobinC`	`got the idea for arkinventory and oblivion ;-)`
`04:44.34`	`Kaelten`	`also, in your OnEnable put this`
`04:44.34`	`Kaelten`	`self.storage:Initialize()`
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`04:47.03`	`wobWork`	`ckknight: What's wrong with OptionsTable?`
`04:47.20`	`ckknight`	`sounds too loose`
`04:47.32`	`ckknight`	`as if it's not a standardized spec`
`04:47.59`	`wobWork`	`We don't want a funky name though`
`04:48.07`	`wobWork`	`the more generic, the more acceptable`
`04:48.11`	`RobinC`	`thanks guys, and think i'll put this on a proper irc client if i need another answer... :-)`
`04:48.12`	`art3mis`	`RobinC: why not use ark or baggins?`
`04:48.24`	`RobinC`	`not seen baggins`
`04:48.27`	`RobinC`	`give me a sec`
`04:48.29`	`art3mis`	`you can edit ark to support the proper categories`
`04:48.46`	`art3mis`	`just click on the bag in the top left corner of the window and choose edit`
`04:48.56`	`art3mis`	`that wil elt you define items to a certain category`
`04:48.59`	`art3mis`	`let`
`04:49.00`	`wobWork`	`WoWOptionsTable?`
`04:49.06`	`wobWork`	`AddonOptionTable`
`04:49.17`	`wobWork`	`AddOpsTable`
`04:49.25`	`art3mis`	`and if anti ever stops working there will be sanity bags which gives you the exact thing you want ;p`
`04:49.44`	`RobinC`	`art3mis: both are ok, but i'm wanting it to be a "scrollable" type, like the profession frame etc`
`04:50.12`	`art3mis`	`ahh i see`
`04:50.28`	`RobinC`	`with each section being a filter, being either inclusive or exclusive - so you can have your Light Leather appearing in both FirstAid and Tailoring`
`04:50.29`	`art3mis`	`but why that form?`
`04:50.53`	`ckknight`	`StandardOptionTable or something`
`04:50.55`	`ckknight`	`I dunno`
`04:50.57`	`RobinC`	`mainly because it's not been done (that i can find) and is a good way to get into coding for wow ;-)`
`04:51.03`	`art3mis`	`tru enough`
`04:51.40`	`RobinC`	`it'll also look like a real bliz frame by default - unlike all these transparent ones etc - put off a couple of my friends from using addons... ;-)`
`04:51.57`	`RobinC`	`besides, i can force then into trying it if i've done it ;-)`
`04:52.24`	`art3mis`	`laugh`
`04:52.32`	`art3mis`	`give them mazzleui`
`04:52.35`	`art3mis`	`they'll be happy`
`04:52.41`	`art3mis`	`or Alldeuce`
`04:52.43`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`04:52.50`	`art3mis`	`nothing says fun like a completely new UI`
`04:53.05`	`art3mis`	`mazzle looks kind of like http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg`
`04:53.23`	`art3mis`	`cept thats jsut the art from mazzle the underlying is mostly ace addons that ive put togetehr`
`04:55.17`	`RobinC`	`heh - somewhat more extreme than i like ;-P`
`04:55.27`	`RobinC`	`besides, doesn't look quite as good playing in a window on my mac ;-P`
`05:08.25`	`break19`	`Rycochet: ahh.. another one.. welcome to the dark side :)`
`05:08.41`	`Rycochet`	`hehe`
`05:09.20`	`Rycochet`	`what can i say - i spent almost a year playing muds before coding them for the best part of a decade, only took me a couple of months before starting on wow addons ;-P`
`05:09.59`	`break19`	`art3mis = mazzle? boggle`
`05:10.12`	`break19`	`Rycochet: I meant the mac thing :p`
`05:10.36`	`break19`	`<- not a lua coder by ANY stretch of the imagination.. I just hang out here hoping to learn by osmosis`
`05:10.48`	`Rycochet`	`oh that, well, i was in the amiga from the start, and what with the situation there it's the only way to satisfy my decent computer addiction ;-P`
`05:10.54`	`break19`	`hasnt worked, so far, but I'm still hopeful`
`05:11.01`	`Rycochet`	`hehe`
`05:11.25`	`break19`	`altho, I did throw together a little FuBar plugin for my favorite healer mod :)`
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`05:11.50`	`Kaelten`	`hrm found a bug in the new auciton scanning code. if there are no items in a category it bombs out`
`05:11.51`	`Rycochet`	`:-)`
`05:12.05`	`break19`	`but it does absolutely nothing other than move the minimap icon to the fubar and allow you to click it to open the options frame for the addon :p`
`05:12.31`	`break19`	`Kaelten: still doing the category-by-category scan?`
`05:12.45`	`Kaelten`	`break19: ya`
`05:13.14`	`break19`	`i heard rumors on the forum that you were thinkin about changin that?`
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`05:16.38`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`05:16.52`	`Kaelten`	`well can you give me a good reason not too?`
`05:17.05`	`break19`	`not in the least`
`05:17.15`	`wobWork`	`Rycochet: What codebase muds did you write in?`
`05:17.38`	`break19`	`i think the scanning is a bit faster with the single scan rather than the multi-category thing, but maybe its me.`
`05:18.26`	`Rycochet`	`wobWork: nearly all merc derivitives`
`05:18.46`	`Rycochet`	`dammit, chatzilla is giving me a headache, brb in a decent client`
`05:18.53`	`break19`	`Rycochet: xchat`
`05:19.31`	`wobWork`	`oh dear`
`05:19.38`	`wobWork`	`it's been so many years since i coded on a mud =P`
`05:19.56`	`wobWork`	`it's actually been a decade =P`
`05:20.17`	`wobWork`	`>,`
`05:20.20`	`wobWork`	`><`
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`05:20.55`	`wobWork`	`(4:21:51 PM) WobWork: oh dear`
`05:20.56`	`wobWork`	`(4:21:58 PM) WobWork: it's been so many years since i coded on a mud =P`
`05:20.56`	`wobWork`	`(4:22:16 PM) WobWork: it's actually been a decade =P`
`05:21.14`	`Rycochet`	`hehe`
`05:21.16`	`wobWork`	`well, actually not -since- I coded`
`05:21.20`	`wobWork`	`but more when I started =P`
`05:21.24`	`Rycochet`	`(and yes, x-chat aqua) ;-)`
`05:21.36`	`Rycochet`	`i started back in about 94 - makes me feel old ;-)`
`05:21.40`	`wobWork`	`I think I did start on diku/merc`
`05:21.44`	`wobWork`	`then smaug`
`05:21.49`	`wobWork`	`then fluffos`
`05:22.06`	`Rycochet`	`somehow every time i coded for a mud i ended up doing the same things for the first few weeks - but never did get around to releasing my own codebase`
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`05:38.49`	`Kaelten`	`lol, I always wanted to write a mud using modern coding techniques`
`05:38.55`	`Kaelten`	`but I never got around to it :s`
`05:41.27`	`Thorgard`	`Is there a mod out there to filter the 'not enough rage' etc. messages?`
`05:42.17`	`wobWork`	`ErrorMonster?`
`05:42.27`	`wobWork`	`oh man`
`05:42.35`	`wobWork`	`I've discussed writing a multithreaded mud`
`05:42.50`	`wobWork`	`but we decided it was too difficult to find creators who could actually code on it =P`
`05:43.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`o_0`
`05:43.19`	`wobWork`	`FluffOS was pretty modern`
`05:43.30`	`wobWork`	`in regards to inheritance and objects etc`
`05:43.41`	`Kaelten`	`ya, I used to play terris on AOL`
`05:43.44`	`Kaelten`	`way back when`
`05:43.44`	`wobWork`	`It was, in fact the most flexible coding language I'd seen for a mud`
`05:43.55`	`wobWork`	`Good old Discworld mud =P`
`05:43.57`	`wobWork`	`It's still there =P`
`05:44.20`	`Kaelten`	`hehe`
`05:44.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`some days, i really miss mudding`
`05:44.25`	`Kaelten`	`terris is still going too`
`05:44.40`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`my fps was so much better back in those days. ;)`
`05:44.44`	`wobWork`	`hehe`
`05:44.49`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
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`05:56.44`	`Rycochet`	`my last mud was multithreaded, but it was amiga-specific - just an exercise in "i wonder if it'll work" that did ;-)`
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`06:03.08`	`wobWork`	`bah`
`06:03.25`	`wobWork`	`it's hard enough getting creators who know how to write code properly let alone multithreaded stuff =P`
`06:03.49`	`wobWork`	`We had one Lord who, while explaining how sar worked, forgot to put 'cre' in front of the example`
`06:04.32`	`wobWork`	`We ended up with ell the priest rituels sounding like thet ceuse he was demonstreting sar/a/e`
`06:07.37`	`Rycochet`	`for some reason what you said just made me think of one of the guys in the larp group i'm in ;-P`
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`08:33.15`	`Xuerian`	`Baby netsplits? <.<`
`08:34.07`	`nee\|work`	`Would there be a way to have XlootMonitor not fade the end of each 'dialog'?`
`08:34.59`	`Xuerian`	`nee\|work: ? You mean, just pop away the rows instead of fading them?`
`08:35.04`	`nee\|work`	`No`
`08:35.31`	`Xuerian`	`nee\|work: O.o... Highlight it with the item color, then?`
`08:35.32`	`nee\|work`	`I mean, at the moment, the graphical representation of what is looted by me/others, fades at the end, from black to white`
`08:36.06`	`nee\|work`	`The end being the right-most part of the background+border behind the item looted`
`08:36.37`	`Xuerian`	`nee\|work: That would be the highlighting kicking in. Set the threshold for stuff you want highlighted in XLoot - the settings apply to all xloot/monitor rows`
`08:37.13`	`nee\|work`	`Xuerian: Hm. I think everything, regardless of quality has the same fading though`
`08:37.33`	`nee\|work`	`I do not have highlighting enabled, at least, the borders are not colored`
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`08:38.30`	`nee\|work`	`Or are they.. hmmm`
`08:38.33`	`Xuerian`	`It uses the same color update function that Xloot's rows use. =X Check and make sure that it isn't matching the quality of the item, and highlighting is off`
`08:38.34`	`nee\|work`	`I don't think so`
`08:38.45`	`nee\|work`	`Hm`
`08:38.56`	`nee\|work`	`Well, I'll mess with it when I'm back home.`
`08:39.24`	`Xuerian`	`If it is infact not keeping to XLoot's settings tell me... I purposely did it so they'd match, and if it's not working, I need to fix it :P`
`08:39.49`	`nee\|work`	`Something else though, I seem to find the configuring of Xloot very cumbersome. I had to check all the different menus to find where to enable the anchor for the monitor.`
`08:40.42`	`nee\|work`	`It seems that /xloot options and /xlootmonitor xlootoptions or something (very odd long line you have to type to reach the monitor options), link to eachother, from within the menus`
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`08:41.31`	`nee\|work`	`So I often get lost when searching for one of the options`
`08:41.39`	`Xuerian`	`For xloot and all the modules, /xloot options -- for monitor, /xlm options (Was a shortcut for me, I just left it in there.`
`08:41.54`	`Xuerian`	`It's easiest just to type /xloot options and go down to the green menus for each module`
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`08:42.17`	`nee\|work`	`Hm. Okay`
`08:42.38`	`Kaelten`	`somebody got something they can commit?`
`08:42.43`	`Kaelten`	`testing the new files script.`
`08:42.45`	`Xuerian`	`I know, I need to re-write all the options with proper configuration dialog, but for now, you can access group/monitor by right-clicking their anchors.`
`08:42.54`	`Xuerian`	`Kaelten: I will in a minute`
`08:42.58`	`Kaelten`	`k`
`08:43.24`	`nee\|work`	`Xuerian: Yes, but I have those anchors hidden normally and the monitor one was very difficult to enable (to me)`
`08:44.40`	`Xuerian`	`nee\|work: I cheaped out after XLoot as far as options goes. That and the tendency of aceconsole to not allow linking the root slash command to a dewdrop menu (Or me not doing it myself) leads to trying to sift through the command line options....`
`08:45.11`	`nee\|work`	`Xuerian: Also, would it be possible, when the anchor is displayed and unlocked, to show a colored 'area', showing the area used for the item links/roll dialogs which popup? It would help me position them and not find out afterwards some items are too long to fit on screen (forcing me to hunt down the display anchor option again)`
`08:45.55`	`nee\|work`	`Xuerian: oki. I'm not blaming you or such, I was just confused :)`
`08:46.18`	`Xuerian`	`Kaelten: rrrrr it should work this reload :p`
`08:46.31`	`Kaelten`	`hrm?`
`08:47.16`	`nee\|work`	`I'll brb. Have to ask someone here something`
`08:48.04`	`CIA-17`	`03xuerian * r27831 10XLootGroup/ (XLootGroup.lua localization.enUS.lua): XLootGroup: Added optional #n#g#p need/greed/pass display next to rows. (Can either display that, or the countdown)`
`08:49.54`	`Xuerian`	`nee\|work: Alrighty. And there's a secret to testing out monitor's anchorage. /xlm options -> [green] Loot Monitor (This is actually the AnchorsAway anchor menu) -> Timeout -> 0 (to disable fading), then go to /xlm options -> Advanced -> Test Handlers -> Spam a few of these. That gives you a few static things to mess around with. Or if you just turn timeout to 0 you can collect a few things and work with that.`
`08:52.21`	`Xuerian`	`Kaelten: Work? o.0`
`08:52.33`	`jjb_`	`moin`
`08:53.44`	`Kaelten`	`Xuerian: not sure, still waiting for the first pass of the script to finish`
`08:53.52`	`Kaelten`	`its taking a while working from scratch :)`
`08:54.10`	`CIA-17`	`03xuerian * r27832 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.lua: XLootMonitor: Only show the stack number if there's more than one.`
`08:54.21`	`Xuerian`	`Ah. What's the new shininess with this script?`
`08:54.29`	`Health`	`Is there any addon combining Chronometer and Cooldowntimers2, or do I have to use both? :P`
`08:54.38`	`Kaelten`	`one it spits out a rss feeds`
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`08:54.47`	`Kaelten`	`er rss feed`
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`08:55.43`	`Kaelten`	`sylvanaar: around man?`
`08:56.21`	`sylvanaar`	`hmm`
`08:56.35`	`Xuerian`	`Mmm.. feeds. crunchy.`
`08:56.38`	`Kaelten`	`was wondering if you guys ever got a copy of the new xml format the files script is going to put out?`
`08:57.12`	`sylvanaar`	`i didnt, maybe pprovost did`
`08:57.30`	`Kaelten`	`I'll give you a link when it finishes`
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`08:57.35`	`sylvanaar`	`ok`
`08:57.37`	`mitch0`	`re`
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`09:01.14`	`Xuerian`	`nn o/`
`09:02.02`	`FISKER_Q`	`Violate me with a winebottle`
`09:03.10`	`abbat_w`	`morning guys`
`09:03.16`	`mitch0`	`'lo`
`09:03.28`	`Kaelten`	`awesome`
`09:03.39`	`nee\|work`	`back`
`09:03.42`	`Kaelten`	`it only creates the zips that are needed`
`09:03.52`	`[Ammo]`	`morning`
`09:04.08`	`nee\|work`	`Xuerian: Ah yes, I saw that option and tried it out, I'll stick to using that then.`
`09:04.09`	`nee\|work`	`Hi Ammo`
`09:04.15`	`nee\|work`	`and hi abbat_w`
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`09:04.51`	`abbat_w`	`4k now... 2-3 days to my epic fly mount :)`
`09:05.29`	`Gigaknight`	`how'd you make the cash?`
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`09:06.38`	`nee\|work`	`abbat_w: nice :) I'm sticking with the normal one though, or I'd have to buy two and my girlfriend would have to get some too :)`
`09:06.42`	`abbat_w`	`quests, grind ;)`
`09:07.10`	`abbat_w`	`Elemental Plataeu for primal air grind and questing`
`09:07.22`	`abbat_w`	`Also i'm miner and mine some ores while questing`
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`09:20.43`	`nee\|work`	`My Disc/Holy spec: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxT0zhxzbZfxt0cbViZx :)`
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`09:26.27`	`Adirelle\|work`	`morning`
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`09:26.48`	`sbu`	`morning`
`09:26.57`	`nee\|work`	`Morning`
`09:27.04`	`ckknight`	`morning`
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`09:28.58`	`FISKER_Q`	`So not a good morning?`
`09:30.02`	`Adirelle\|work`	`~ugt`
`09:30.22`	`purl`	`ugt is probably Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html`
`09:30.54`	`Adirelle\|work`	`good morning can include "local time reference" ;)`
`09:31.36`	`tlund`	`FISKER_Q: mornings are never good, no.`
`09:32.47`	`Adirelle\|work`	`morning interrupts sleep, and it's bad :p`
`09:33.39`	`nee\|work`	`I don't mind morning when not waking up alone`
`09:34.53`	`Adirelle\|work`	`lol`
`09:35.34`	`Adirelle\|work`	`generally, my wife tell me "it's time to wake up" (she's nurse and don't work every day a week)... not really neat`
`09:35.53`	`Adirelle\|work`	`when she works, I wake up alone`
`09:37.26`	`FISKER_Q`	`http://www.haveaslogan.com/`
`09:40.26`	`Kaelten`	`sylvanaar: descript.ion has a tab deliminating right?`
`09:40.54`	`nee\|work`	`Adirelle\|work: :)`
`09:41.23`	`ckknight`	`where would I go from here: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=uZxV00EosVuo`
`09:42.03`	`Thrae`	`Ack...what happens when you have a local function call a local function that is declared after it?`
`09:42.04`	`Kaelten`	`hi ck, g'mornin`
`09:42.13`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ckknight: finish up the enh tree?`
`09:42.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`unleashed rage and shamanistic rage are nice`
`09:42.46`	`nee\|work`	`more points in Toughness perhaps`
`09:43.03`	`Thrae`	`Can I do function Foo() end; function Bar() ... Foo() ... end; function Foo() ..do stuff... end`
`09:43.24`	`Thrae`	`In this case, would Bar have a reference of the first declared foo, or the second?`
`09:43.27`	`Ordog`	`for leveling enh is really nice if you got the equip, otherwise id go for the good ol 30,0,21(+)`
`09:43.30`	`Thrae`	`Oops, in this case they're all local`
`09:43.47`	`Nargiddley`	`local foo, bar ... foo = function() ... end bar = function() ... end`
`09:44.04`	`Nargiddley`	`and they'll be able to see each other`
`09:44.08`	`wobin`	`Silviu-, pong`
`09:46.39`	`Silviu-`	`Wobin did u manage to fix that waypoint issues ? :)`
`09:46.46`	`Wobin`	`Just got home =)`
`09:46.48`	`Wobin`	`about to start`
`09:46.54`	`Silviu-`	`Oh`
`09:46.57`	`Silviu-`	`Nice :)`
`09:47.14`	`Silviu-`	`I can add another error i got in morning when trying to Alt+M`
`09:47.36`	`Wobin`	`alt-M?`
`09:47.52`	`Silviu-`	`Yes open alternate map`
`09:48.25`	`Wobin`	`er`
`09:48.31`	`Wobin`	`What map does that open?`
`09:48.59`	`ckknight`	`it switches your profile.`
`09:50.00`	`Silviu-`	`http://ace.pastey.net/6480`
`09:50.03`	`Silviu-`	`And get this :)`
`09:50.09`	`Silviu-`	`Anytime u switch`
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`09:50.51`	`Silviu-`	Not important cause i don`t use that just wanted to let u know in case someone else uses that
`09:51.36`	`Wobin`	`ah`
`09:52.27`	`Wobin`	`legacy code =P`
`09:52.41`	`Silviu-`	`Wobin, and + what i writed on forum when u type /way 50,50 for example u get that error and when u try to make an waynote on an already existing node geting another error`
`09:53.29`	`nevcairiel`	`can waypoints work cross-zone?`
`09:53.35`	`nevcairiel`	`like /way 50,50 Nagrand`
`09:53.35`	`Wobin`	`The guild and party ones can`
`09:53.36`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`09:53.54`	`Wobin`	`I've still got to iron out the coordinates`
`09:54.09`	`nevcairiel`	`or if i use the feature to look for an existing note, that works cross zone i guess?`
`09:54.17`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`09:54.21`	`Wobin`	`it -should- =)`
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`09:54.32`	`Wobin`	`try /note <search> z-Nagrand`
`09:54.59`	`Silviu-`	`Wobin http://ace.pastey.net/6481`
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`09:55.25`	`Wobin`	`yeah =\ I had to revert somewhat`
`09:55.44`	`nevcairiel`	`ah heh thats the error i just got`
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`10:13.25`	`CIA-17`	`03anea * r27833 10SpamSentry/ (SpamSentry.toc core.lua readme.txt):`
`10:13.25`	`CIA-17`	`SpamSentry:`
`10:13.25`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed (and tested) schedules for reminder and garbage collection`
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`10:14.10`	`Sole`	`hey kids`
`10:14.13`	`Sole`	`ok Ive got a problem for you to solve`
`10:14.16`	`Sole`	`because I know you guys love problems`
`10:14.19`	`FISKER_Q`	`~seen Elkano`
`10:14.47`	`purl`	`elkano is currently on #wowi-lounge (2h 50m 4s) #wowace (2h 50m 4s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 56m 17s, last said: 'wrt the bugs: buggrabber/bugsack'.`
`10:15.03`	`FISKER_Q`	`Elkano`
`10:15.12`	`Sole`	`my guildy is applying for a scholarship and the only goal theyve set him is: "create a puzzle game with an aim to reduce global warming"`
`10:15.21`	`Elkano`	`???`
`10:15.27`	`FISKER_Q`	`you know that anea guy?`
`10:15.42`	`FISKER_Q`	`Tetris but with heatwaves!`
`10:15.49`	`Wobin`	`"How many industrial wastelands can you redeem in less than 60 seconds!"`
`10:15.54`	`Sole`	`ooer`
`10:16.02`	`Sole`	`knew I could depend on you guys!`
`10:16.14`	`Elkano`	`FISKER_Q, the one from spamsentry?`
`10:16.17`	`FISKER_Q`	`yeha`
`10:16.17`	`nee\|work`	`Sole: So perhaps a game which has to be played by kids on a driveway, preventing their parents from using the car?`
`10:16.24`	`Elkano`	`not really, y?`
`10:16.25`	`FISKER_Q`	`Yeah`
`10:16.30`	`FISKER_Q`	`and the parents drive the kid over`
`10:16.35`	`FISKER_Q`	`need to suggest him something :o`
`10:16.53`	`Wobin`	`"What is the largest number of cars you can stop by bodily throwing yourself in front of them on the freeway?"`
`10:16.57`	`Sole`	`lol nee`
`10:17.09`	`Elkano`	`FISKER_Q, maybe there is a thread on wowace forums`
`10:17.17`	`nee\|work`	`Sole: Or something involving bananas and exhausts. or... 'Hide the Bougie!'`
`10:17.22`	`Tenebra`	`Puzzle game, eh . . .`
`10:17.24`	`Sole`	`Wobin wins life`
`10:17.31`	`nee\|work`	`spark-plug I think that's called in English`
`10:17.34`	`ckknight`	`climate is just the liberal name for weather`
`10:17.53`	`Tenebra`	`"Match the Senators with the polluting industrial PAC lobbyists"`
`10:18.14`	`Wobin`	`^^`
`10:18.15`	`Sole`	`lol great stuff`
`10:18.18`	`Sole`	`passing all these on`
`10:18.27`	`Sole`	`kinda sucks for him`
`10:18.33`	`Sole`	`he has to use a crappy engine for his game`
`10:18.53`	`nee\|work`	`Can he write a point-and-click adventure game?`
`10:18.58`	`nee\|work`	`Though that requires artwork`
`10:19.00`	`Sole`	`he says its basicly everything we dont like here`
`10:19.07`	`Sole`	`thats not a puzzle nee`
`10:19.25`	`nee\|work`	`Oh yea`
`10:19.27`	`nee\|work`	`A puzzle.`
`10:19.33`	`nee\|work`	`You mentioned that :)`
`10:19.59`	`Tenebra`	`A Myst-like "work your way through the daily challenges and find alternatives to polluting choices" deal?`
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`10:20.29`	`Wobin`	`A puzzle game that's perhaps on a distributed computer network`
`10:20.34`	`ckknight`	`oh no, a scientist with ideas about cosmic rays! censor him within 30 seconds!`
`10:20.36`	`Wobin`	`And the challenge is to turn them all off`
`10:20.45`	`Wobin`	`and the program randomly turns them back on`
`10:20.48`	`[Ammo]`	`s/censor/silence with a machinegun/`
`10:20.56`	`Wobin`	`so you need to turn them all off to reduce global warming =)`
`10:21.00`	`nee\|work`	`hehe`
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`10:21.15`	`nee\|work`	`Wobin: Nice one.`
`10:21.36`	`Wobin`	`does it have to be a computer program?`
`10:22.00`	`nee\|work`	`Wobin: Something where you have to find the corrent order by a process of elimination and if your time is up, the virtual chemical-plant starts polluting the water`
`10:22.10`	`Wobin`	`feh`
`10:22.12`	`Wobin`	`screw virtual`
`10:22.17`	`Wobin`	`hook it up to a real chemical plant`
`10:22.24`	`Wobin`	`ala wargames =)`
`10:22.25`	`Tenebra`	`I sorta like the distributed network thing. "How many zombie systems can you hook together to combat spam by reporting their information to ISPs and spam government officials with Green Party material? !"`
`10:22.52`	`Tenebra`	`Wait.`
`10:22.53`	`Tenebra`	`WTF.`
`10:22.58`	`Tenebra`	`Why am I on this nick?`
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`10:23.31`	`Sole`	`lol`
`10:23.31`	`Wobin`	`There's ... a /nick command =)`
`10:23.38`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Yes, I know.`
`10:24.04`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`but then I'd have to reauth as well . . .`
`10:24.08`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`2 clicks was easier.`
`10:24.13`	`nee\|work`	`Or, a puzzle involving the food-chain, where, if you do not prevent the organism at the botto from being polluted/harmed, you have to find a cure to cure that which is higher on the food-chain, ending with patients in a hospital needing cures. It kindof explains the effects of harming something on a seemingly low-scale, causing a wide-spread problem for humans. Humans don't often see small critters being in trouble as somethi`
`10:24.18`	`Wobin`	`not if you register both names =)`
`10:24.40`	`Wobin`	`global warming though`
`10:24.42`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`That's actually a tertiary nick, fallback should be ZOAS.`
`10:24.44`	`Wobin`	`prevent global warming`
`10:25.00`	`Kaelten`	`http://files.wowace.com/latest.xml`
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`10:25.41`	`odt`	`what's that? an RSS feed?`
`10:26.07`	`odt`	`hmm, nice :)`
`10:27.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Kaelten: <3`
`10:27.26`	`Wobin`	`now you need it to interpret colourcodes =)`
`10:27.35`	`krka`	`make game where you have to create lots of refridgerators to combat global warming`
`10:27.38`	`Kaelten`	`what does the Has no plubic versions message mean in WAU?`
`10:28.19`	`[Ammo]`	`no idea kaelten`
`10:28.35`	`Kaelten`	`I'm getting it on an addon that, as far as I can tell, should be working fine :s`
`10:29.30`	`Wobin`	`krka: all that will prove is that the applicant has no idea what causes global warming =)`
`10:29.45`	`krka`	`still funny`
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`10:31.14`	`[Ammo]`	`there's this one guy that invented both CFK's used in fridges and leaded fuel :p`
`10:31.29`	`ckknight`	`or something where you have to shoot a missle at the sun, thus making the sun fear us and stop warming us`
`10:31.30`	`[Ammo]`	`can't remember his name`
`10:31.50`	`[Ammo]`	`but damn, one guy invented major causes for global warming :p`
`10:32.31`	`Sole`	`thanks for the suggestions guys`
`10:32.34`	`Sole`	`it helped`
`10:32.42`	`Sole`	`gonna hit the sack`
`10:33.17`	`ckknight`	`or pretty simply you make a game focused around carbon trading`
`10:33.43`	`Kaelten`	`did I break it somehow`
`10:33.44`	`Kaelten`	`fuck`
`10:35.19`	`CIA-17`	`03mitchell * r27834 10SpellCaster/ (RangeCheck.lua SpellCaster.lua):`
`10:35.19`	`CIA-17`	`SpellCaster`
`10:35.19`	`CIA-17`	`- don't hide RangeCheckFrame if it's not locked [DRYCODED]`
`10:38.35`	`FISKER_Q`	`i'm hacking`
`10:40.28`	`mitch0`	`erm, if I StartMoving()/StopMovingOrSizing() in OnMouseDown/OnMouseUp, do I still have to RegisterFroDrag?`
`10:41.58`	`Kaelten`	`well damned I broke something.....`
`10:42.08`	`mitch0`	`shit happens`
`10:42.56`	`sbi`	`:D`
`10:42.58`	`sbi`	`hello!`
`10:43.48`	`FISKER_Q`	`ah crap :(`
`10:44.05`	`FISKER_Q`	`Trying to abuse an inbuilt asp.net database`
`10:44.08`	`FISKER_Q`	`but it's built of crap`
`10:44.26`	`FISKER_Q`	`One table has userid, email, password and so on, but of course no user accounts`
`10:44.41`	`FISKER_Q`	`so i need to search 2 tables to get username and email`
`10:44.41`	`FISKER_Q`	`:(`
`10:45.13`	`nee\|work`	`How is it crap if it prevents you from easily abusing it :)`
`10:45.20`	`FISKER_Q`	`:P`
`10:45.28`	`krka`	`is there a 1:1 relation between the tables+`
`10:45.34`	`FISKER_Q`	`dunno`
`10:45.46`	`krka`	`then how do you know it's "built of crap"?`
`10:45.46`	`FISKER_Q`	`I don't think so`
`10:45.59`	`FISKER_Q`	`I'm just angry that i have to do extra work :P`
`10:46.14`	`krka`	`what are the names of the two tables?`
`10:46.25`	`FISKER_Q`	`aspnet_Membership and aspnet_Users`
`10:46.43`	`krka`	`can one membership contain several users, or vice versa?`
`10:47.27`	`CIA-17`	`03mitchell * r27835 10SpellCaster/SpellCaster.xml:`
`10:47.27`	`CIA-17`	`SpellCaster`
`10:47.27`	`CIA-17`	`- do moving from OnMouseDown/OnMouseUp instead of OnDragStart/OnDragStop [DRYCODED]`
`10:47.41`	`FISKER_Q`	`Doesn't look like it`
`10:47.58`	`Wobin`	`actually Kaelten: You should have your xml also output the last commit message`
`10:48.18`	`FISKER_Q`	`hey?`
`10:48.28`	`Wobin`	`I'm just looking at all these [DRYCODED] notes =)`
`10:48.29`	`FISKER_Q`	`You can get it to automatically fill in the blanks when you add a constraint?`
`10:48.53`	`Kaelten`	`aha, found the issue... I had an extra space :s`
`10:49.30`	`sbi`	`extra spaces are free!`
`10:49.36`	`mitch0`	`Wobin: I'm working on the addon @work... hard to test`
`10:49.42`	`FISKER_Q`	`wtf win`
`10:49.58`	`Kaelten`	`sbi: not when they cause the server to return a 404 when WAU tries to get the latest.txt`
`10:50.02`	`FISKER_Q`	`Had a store procedure that verified the integrity of the data and then it's inbuilt :P`
`10:50.34`	`Wobin`	`mitch0, I know how you feel =)`
`10:51.15`	`mitch0`	`I should get the spell list for rangecheck for other classes, but I don't have any high level alts...`
`10:51.25`	`Kaelten`	`sylvanaar: new files script is live, I do plan on removing the legacy files after a month or two.`
`10:51.27`	`mitch0`	`so there'll be another bunch of "drycoded" changes :)`
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`10:52.04`	`Kaelten`	`drycoded?`
`10:52.06`	`Kaelten`	`no testing?`
`10:52.11`	`mitch0`	`yep`
`10:52.24`	`Kaelten`	`heh`
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`10:52.30`	`Kaelten`	`sounds like the code I've been doin for curse`
`10:52.32`	`mitch0`	`and I won't be able to test them even at home...`
`10:52.48`	`Kaelten`	`bunch of javascript to rewrite, I don't even know where half of its used so I just rewrite it and hope I got it right`
`10:57.09`	`Kaelten`	`anyone here ever used jQuery?`
`10:57.24`	`CIA-17`	`03jncl * r27836 10Skinner/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skinned Epeen for lacindas`
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`10:58.03`	`winkiller`	`hi, sorry for the spam`
`10:58.37`	`Kaelten`	`np :)`
`11:00.09`	`FISKER_Q`	`Btw the filesscript you have does it do everything, webpage, descript.ion and so on?`
`11:00.17`	`Kaelten`	`yep`
`11:00.23`	`FISKER_Q`	`Do want`
`11:03.11`	`Azurewrath`	`mhm.. are there any known graphical glitches with dewdrop and nVidia Cards?`
`11:05.29`	`nee\|work`	`Not that I know, I use nvidia too`
`11:05.46`	`sbi`	`same here`
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`11:19.12`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r27837 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: Cartographer_Notes: Fixed waypoint functionality`
`11:19.29`	`vithos`	`YAY! :)`
`11:21.25`	`Silviu-`	`Wobin , the /way 50,50 is still not fixed right ?`
`11:22.39`	`Silviu-`	Nop, it`s not :)
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`11:27.04`	`FISKER_Q`	`aspnet_Membership and aspnet_Users`
`11:27.09`	`FISKER_Q`	`DOH`
`11:27.14`	`FISKER_Q`	`fucking n00b :P`
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`11:27.30`	`FISKER_Q`	`Was coding, but i used the wrong keyboard`
`11:27.56`	`CIA-17`	`03jncl * r27838 10Skinner/AddonSkins/Epeen.lua: Skinner: Fixed Epeen scroll Frame bug`
`11:30.14`	`Wobin`	`it is with this commit now`
`11:30.19`	`Wobin`	`(upcoming)`
`11:30.29`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r27839 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (NotePoint.lua Waypoints.lua): Cartographer_Waypoints: Fix for various bugs with notes. Should work now.`
`11:31.56`	`FISKER_Q`	`Anyone know how to access a username in an asp.net page?`
`11:32.12`	`FISKER_Q`	`I'm close to being a genius already`
`11:32.12`	`sbi`	`i was wandering if... something similar to jdepend exists for lua`
`11:32.41`	`Wobin`	`what does jdepend do?`
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`11:34.33`	`sbi`	`Wobin, in a few words.. it detects dependency cycles between modules/classes and show you few metrics about code like: afferent/efferent coupling/abstractness instability and such`
`11:35.58`	`Wobin`	`I don't think lua is at it's base complex enough in regards to objects to warrant such a tool`
`11:36.25`	`sbi`	`could be a good point`
`11:37.29`	`Silviu-`	Wobin , now on map it won`t add an X anymore ?
`11:42.53`	`yacoob`	`anyone knows some good free online storage places?`
`11:43.27`	`yacoob`	`I need something around 10GB 8)`
`11:43.49`	`CIA-17`	`03arkayenro * r27840 10ArkInventory/ (10 files in 2 dirs):`
`11:43.49`	`CIA-17`	`ArkInventory:`
`11:43.49`	`CIA-17`	`- v1.31`
`11:44.10`	`sbi`	`backing up your pr0n? :D`
`11:44.28`	`yacoob`	`what for? porn is always out there in the wild.`
`11:45.54`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r27841 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: Cartographer_Notes: Made the FindNearestNote force the zone lowercase for FindZone`
`11:46.36`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r27842 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer_Waypoints: Cross Zonal NotePoints. Just add z-zone`
`11:46.37`	`Wobin`	`Silviu-: yes, it won't.`
`11:46.48`	`Silviu-`	`Ok`
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`11:47.17`	`Wobin`	`yacoob: 5 gmail accounts tied into a webdrive?`
`11:47.20`	`Silviu-`	`Wobin so to add i need to first make a note with /note and they waypoint to it`
`11:47.27`	`Wobin`	`yeah`
`11:47.31`	`Silviu-`	`Ok, thx`
`11:47.37`	`Wobin`	`Or rather, it won't... yet`
`11:47.42`	`yacoob`	`Wobin, that some solution, b ut I'd be grateful for web/ftp access...`
`11:48.07`	`Wobin`	`yacoob: I guess it comes to how much are you willing to pay? =P`
`11:48.14`	`yacoob`	`exactly`
`11:48.19`	`Wobin`	`cause 10gig can't come cheap`
`11:48.35`	`yacoob`	`0 EUR would be ood :)`
`11:48.57`	`Wobin`	`For large enough values of 0, I'm sure it could be arranged =)`
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`11:49.30`	`FISKER_Q`	`10GB isn't much :P`
`11:49.38`	`Wobin`	`FISKER_Q: For free?`
`11:49.41`	`Wobin`	`I'd say it is`
`11:49.52`	`FISKER_Q`	`That's probably stretching it`
`11:49.57`	`evl`	`Anyone a rogue and doing Karazhan here? :)`
`11:50.03`	`yacoob`	`FISKER_Q, I'm all ears ;)`
`11:50.05`	`FISKER_Q`	`But you should be able to get it pretty cheap`
`11:50.26`	`Wobin`	`I should convert corpseway`
`11:50.38`	`FISKER_Q`	`dunno if you can, but if i can get my own dedicated server with 320GB space and a 100Mbit line for 40€ a month i can probably get a 10GB space on a shared server cheaper`
`11:50.39`	`FISKER_Q`	`:P`
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`12:17.42`	`FISKER_Q`	`But anyways Kaelten how much for your script? :P`
`12:19.35`	`ilifin`	`Wobin, did you manage to sort out carto?`
`12:20.49`	`Wobin`	`yeh, give it a go`
`12:21.13`	`ilifin`	`reckon the zips are updated?`
`12:21.21`	`Wobin`	`probably`
`12:21.35`	`Wobin`	`You're after versoin 27842`
`12:22.12`	`ilifin`	`wtf.. JAU is suddenly empty`
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`12:25.41`	`nee\|work`	`Java Ace Updater?`
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`12:29.57`	`nee\|work`	`Hm.. If a priest gets +35% Damage and +45% healing, both percentages of the amount of spirit, what would the effect be of getting 5% more spirit, but 2% less healing based on the total spirit?`
`12:30.16`	`nee\|work`	`There would be a gain in damage and regen rate`
`12:30.58`	`nee\|work`	`oh wait.`
`12:31.13`	`nee\|work`	`rephrases`
`12:31.31`	`evl`	`How can I detect when a player applies a temporary weapon enchant?`
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`12:34.16`	`Adirelle\|work`	`wondering to add an option to hide "unknown icon" in Carto, as well as an option to refuse automatic notes of not-registered databases`
`12:35.18`	`Adirelle\|work`	`(or maybe using a X-Cartographer-Database: in TOC to allow discovery of what databases could be locally handled)`
`12:35.32`	`Wobin`	`I think Kael is messing around with boa...the server`
`12:35.58`	`Tupsi`	`can someone explain to me the idea of the [addonname]lod.bat\|sh scripts starting to show up in certain addons? While I of course understand what the scripts do I fail to see what its good for`
`12:36.02`	`nee\|work`	`Looking at the following spec: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxT0zhxzbZfxt0cbViZx, would taking 1 point out of Spiritual Healing and putting it into Spirit of Redemption (+5% spirit), but a good choice?`
`12:36.25`	`nee\|work`	`Tupsi: Which addon are you referring to`
`12:36.40`	`sbi`	`nee\|work, imho no, it's not worth`
`12:36.40`	`nee\|work`	`Tupsi: I think SpamSentry has it`
`12:36.53`	`sbi`	`spiritual healing imho is the main reason to go deep holy :\|`
`12:37.07`	Pneu`	`lod = load on demand, the bat/sh scripts split the addon out into lots of smaller addon folders`
`12:37.17`	`nee\|work`	`sbi: not even when considering the, marginal, increase in damage/healing and regeneration?`
`12:37.18`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Tups: there are used by WoWAceUpdater to auto deploy modules and make them LoadOnDemand (=speed up loading and reduce memory usage)`
`12:37.37`	`Tupsi`	`nee: i saw it in ora and carto`
`12:37.57`	`nee\|work`	`Tupsi: oki. I thought it was something messy from SpamSentry :)`
`12:38.03`	`nee\|work`	`But apparently more are starting to use it`
`12:38.05`	`Adirelle\|work`	`by exemple, BigWigs has at least one module per instance, there is no need to download them all at a time`
`12:38.05`	`sbi`	`nee\|work, i took both, btw, i think 1 point in sh > spirit of redemption, you should do your math btw :/`
`12:38.26`	`Adirelle\|work`	`the core BW with load the right module when you enter the instance`
`12:38.28`	`Tupsi`	`so wowupdater executes that batch script?`
`12:38.33`	`nee\|work`	`sbi: Yes, the math.. I was hoping someone had done it for me. I'm on wowwiki now, looking at the formulae`
`12:38.40`	`Tupsi`	`would explain why it did not mess up my folders lately :-)`
`12:38.46`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Tups: maybe`
`12:39.03`	`sbi`	`nee\|work, take care about those bonuses are multiplicative not additive`
`12:39.17`	`Tupsi`	`was wondering since carto started showing up under a seperate "Package" section`
`12:39.24`	`Adirelle\|work`	`damn, didn't think about this, but it as serious security issues`
`12:39.28`	`nee\|work`	`sbi: Oh egh, that doesn't make things easier.`
`12:39.39`	`Adirelle\|work`	`s/as/has/`
`12:39.49`	`sbi`	`nee\|work, btw, surge of light imho is not worth the cause :\|`
`12:39.55`	`Adirelle\|work`	`or maybe WAU uses another mean to deploy`
`12:40.04`	`Adirelle\|work`	`have to ask sylvanaar about this`
`12:40.23`	`Tupsi`	`at least it seems to figure it out somehow, hence that new subsection`
`12:40.24`	`nee\|work`	`sbi: It's worth it when killing things I think :) I have no problems with having it, only advantages so far :)`
`12:40.27`	`sbi`	`nee\|work, unless you want to pvp, but if you want to, i'd go deep disc`
`12:40.49`	`ilifin`	`any know what's causing javaaceupdater to get a blank file list?`
`12:41.05`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Tupsi: I think WAU use filelist.wau instead of the .bats`
`12:41.17`	`Tupsi`	`so if i want to distribute lets say ora to my guldies i better repack the zip with moved out addon folders?`
`12:41.20`	`sbi`	`nee\|work, sure it seems good, but i don't get if you want to pvp or pve :)`
`12:41.23`	`Adirelle\|work`	`no automatic bat execution (phew)`
`12:41.29`	`Tupsi`	`or does the addon work as it is as well?`
`12:41.38`	`Tupsi`	`adir: better that way!`
`12:41.42`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Tupsi: work well both way`
`12:41.47`	`Tupsi`	`it sounded scary for a moment`
`12:42.00`	`nee\|work`	`sbi: I just want to know the exact difference between 2% to all healing and 5% spirit, when getting 35% of spirit to Damage/Healing and 8 or 10% to all Healing, separate from how much spirit I have.`
`12:42.41`	`nee\|work`	`sbi: I'll use my spec for anything, not just PvP or PvE.`
`12:42.45`	`Adirelle\|work`	`anyone knowing an better aspect/tracking addon than ZHunterMod ?`
`12:42.52`	`sbi`	`i see`
`12:43.01`	`nee\|work`	`sbi: But the rest of the spec is not up for discussion :)`
`12:43.09`	`sbi`	`nee\|work, got it`
`12:43.15`	`nee\|work`	`sbi: The discussion is in the past, I've spent too much money and time on it so far :)`
`12:43.25`	`sbi`	`lol :D`
`12:43.40`	`nee\|work`	`I'm level 69 and have the option to choose either 2% to all healing or Spirit of Redemption`
`12:43.48`	`sbi`	`nee\|work, your actual healing and spirit?`
`12:43.53`	`nee\|work`	`er`
`12:43.56`	`nee\|work`	`I do not know`
`12:44.02`	`nee\|work`	`It depends on my gear`
`12:44.47`	`sbi`	`well, i think the only reply to your question should be "results may vary" :(`
`12:44.50`	`nee\|work`	`;)`
`12:46.09`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`12:46.23`	`nee\|work`	`I think the difference in healing is not much, while there is an increase in regen and damage.`
`12:46.28`	`Wobin`	`Anyone want to die over and over in the name of science?`
`12:46.34`	`Wobin`	`(and testing?)`
`12:47.47`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Wobin: testing CorpseWay ? :D`
`12:47.53`	`sbi`	`nee\|work, most priest in my guild got > 1200 healing, it's about at least 220 healing lost on each spell >= 3.5s untalented if you lose 1 point in sh`
`12:48.01`	`sbu`	`nee\|work: hmmm why spirit tap?`
`12:48.06`	`Wobin`	`Adirelle\|work: yeah =)`
`12:48.13`	`Adirelle\|work`	`no way`
`12:48.15`	`Adirelle\|work`	`:p`
`12:48.22`	`Wobin`	`It's basically inbuilt into the waypoint code though`
`12:48.22`	`Adirelle\|work`	`btw, being at work, I just cant'`
`12:48.27`	`Wobin`	`aw`
`12:48.32`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Is it 2% of the total amount healed, or 2% of your +healing?`
`12:48.46`	`nee\|work`	`sbu: The spirit tap is for regaining mana when killing mobs. I'm not much of a raider`
`12:48.52`	`sbu`	`hm k`
`12:48.54`	`sbu`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=dxT0zhxzbZfxt0bbqihM <-- mine`
`12:49.00`	`sbu`	`err no wait`
`12:49.15`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Also, keep in mind, 2% of +1000 healing is going to be all of 20 points. Spirit of Redemption gives you the ability to heal for 10 seconds (or whatever the number is) after you die. 2% of dead is still nothing.`
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`12:49.31`	`Wobin`	`=(`
`12:49.39`	`sbu`	`nee\|work: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=dxg0zhLzbZfxt0bbqihM`
`12:49.42`	`Wobin`	`I wish my latency allowed me to use SoR`
`12:49.52`	`Wobin`	`By the time I find I'm dead, I get maybe a single cast off`
`12:50.15`	`nee\|work`	`sbu: Interesting too`
`12:50.22`	`sbi`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxoGzhxoZfxt0cbqVhV <- mine`
`12:50.29`	`nee\|work`	`sbu: egh. Now you're making me think about respeccing`
`12:50.48`	`sbu`	`nee\|work: also pretty nice for raiding`
`12:51.00`	`nee\|work`	`Nah, I won't go without improved divine spirit`
`12:51.09`	`nee\|work`	`And I rarely raid`
`12:51.10`	`sbu`	`uhm`
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`12:51.17`	`sbi`	`nee\|work, :) disc priests take imp spir :)`
`12:51.17`	`nee\|work`	`I quest and do some instances though`
`12:51.24`	`sbu`	`there is improved spirit?`
`12:51.38`	`Chosi`	`what's the syntax for baggins when i want to add some kind of itemname section?`
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`12:51.50`	`Chosi`	`i want to have everything with *particle in one category`
`12:51.57`	`Chosi`	`anyone got an idea?`
`12:52.40`	`Chosi`	`oh well it's Mote of * in english clients`
`12:52.49`	`Chosi`	`anyways, you should know what i mean :)`
`12:53.26`	`nee\|work`	`sbu: yes`
`12:54.08`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Chosi: you can add a itemname rule in "catogry"`
`12:54.25`	`Chosi`	`what's the wildcard then?`
`12:54.31`	`Chosi`	`text?`
`12:54.36`	`Adirelle\|work`	`don't think there are any wildcard`
`12:54.38`	`Adirelle\|work`	`let me check`
`12:55.02`	`Chosi`	`too bad`
`12:55.07`	`Wobin`	`hehe the power of death`
`12:55.21`	`Wobin`	`it adds the ability to /rl while autorunning without fear of reprisal`
`12:55.44`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Chosi: it's a regex, so you may use .Mote.`
`12:55.50`	`Chosi`	`oh great`
`12:56.15`	`Adirelle\|work`	`btw, it's lua regex`
`12:56.44`	`nee\|work`	`Well, off to home.`
`12:57.25`	`Chosi`	`what would the regular expression be for "Schattenpartikel" or just *partikel?`
`12:57.36`	`Chosi`	`.*partikel?`
`12:57.41`	`Wobin`	`aye`
`12:57.53`	`sbi`	`(.*?)`
`12:58.48`	`Chosi`	`mh for some reason it's getting the items with Partikel*`
`12:58.50`	`Chosi`	`:S`
`12:59.08`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r27843 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer_Waypoints: Automatic corpse waypointing added.`
`12:59.22`	`mitch0`	`Chosi: .+partikel$`
`13:00.14`	`Chosi`	`negative on that :/`
`13:00.17`	`FISKER_Q`	`Anyone know where i can read about virtual hosting? You know several domains on same server/ip?`
`13:00.23`	`FISKER_Q`	`I'm using apache 2`
`13:00.37`	`mitch0`	`google?`
`13:01.02`	`mitch0`	`apache virtual host (feeling lucky)`
`13:01.46`	`mitch0`	`Chosi: hm. that should work...`
`13:02.00`	`FISKER_Q`	`oh`
`13:02.02`	`FISKER_Q`	`that easy`
`13:02.02`	`FISKER_Q`	`:P`
`13:02.14`	`Chosi`	`i wanna have Hugedildo, Smalldildo and Extraordinarydildo aswell as Tinylittledildo in one bag`
`13:02.18`	`FISKER_Q`	`Always thought major haxoring was needed`
`13:02.25`	`Chosi`	`what would be the match rule for the dildos?`
`13:02.25`	`Chosi`	`:D`
`13:02.54`	`[Ammo]`	`.*dildo`
`13:03.15`	`[Ammo]`	`I think`
`13:03.25`	`sbi`	`<mitch0> Chosi: .+partikel$`
`13:03.32`	`mitch0`	`Chosi: my bet is still ".+dildo$"`
`13:03.37`	`sbi`	`.+dildo$`
`13:03.43`	`mitch0`	`It Shoud Work (TM)`
`13:03.48`	`Chosi`	`.*dildo matches Dildobox, Dildoman2000`
`13:03.52`	`sbi`	`unless you want to match "dildo" too`
`13:03.54`	`Chosi`	`:D`
`13:04.18`	`Chosi`	`dildo is such a crappy word. let's say cow.`
`13:04.58`	`mitch0`	`is there an online lua interpreter somewhere? :)`
`13:05.09`	`Chosi`	`mitch, yours matches nothing`
`13:05.14`	`Chosi`	`:/`
`13:05.26`	`FISKER_Q`	`btw mitch0 do you know anything about virtual hosting or did you just state the obvious?`
`13:05.26`	`Chosi`	`maybe it's some baggins problem`
`13:05.38`	`mitch0`	`FISKER_Q: the latter :)`
`13:05.39`	`Chosi`	`FISKER_Q: what do you wanna do?`
`13:06.08`	`mitch0`	`maybe baggins does something with the regex first, dunno`
`13:06.14`	`FISKER_Q`	`Well i just wanna do like *.host.com and then forum.host.com`
`13:06.24`	`Wobin`	`mitch0: Lua is easy to install =)`
`13:06.25`	`FISKER_Q`	`Would it get it or would * overwrite the other entry?`
`13:06.37`	`CIA-17`	`03stefan * r27844 10DynRepBar/DynRepBar.lua:`
`13:06.37`	`CIA-17`	`DynRepBar:`
`13:06.37`	`CIA-17`	`-removed notes`
`13:06.39`	`sbi`	`Chosi, http://www.quanetic.com/regex.php`
`13:06.53`	`sbi`	`Chosi, /(.+)cow$/ smallcow`
`13:06.54`	`nevcairiel`	`i think all wildcard entries are fallback`
`13:07.04`	`nevcairiel`	`(or depends on order in the file)`
`13:07.08`	`nevcairiel`	`one of those :P`
`13:07.10`	`Chosi`	`well wait`
`13:07.18`	`Chosi`	`it matched something`
`13:07.22`	`FISKER_Q`	`fallback = if no entry is found it uses *?`
`13:07.33`	`sbi`	`FISKER_Q, yes`
`13:07.34`	`Adirelle\|work`	`there's now fallback`
`13:07.45`	`Chosi`	`it matched Schockdrosselnder Partikelextraktor`
`13:07.57`	`Chosi`	`with .*partikel`
`13:08.06`	`Adirelle\|work`	`(talking to chosi btw, not FISKER_Q )`
`13:08.07`	`Chosi`	`but it didn't match the Schattenpartikel`
`13:08.09`	`Chosi`	`for example`
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`13:08.23`	`Chosi`	`sbi: lemme try this`
`13:08.34`	`Chosi`	`well we tried this before`
`13:08.34`	`Chosi`	`:D`
`13:08.41`	`sbi`	`and it works =)`
`13:08.58`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Baggins juste does : "itemname:lower():match(rule.match:lower())"`
`13:09.16`	`Adirelle\|work`	`where itemname is the item anme and rule.match is the ... (suspens) ... rule matching text...`
`13:09.42`	`Chosi`	`nah it doesn't in baggins`
`13:09.51`	`Adirelle\|work`	`http://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/Baggins/libs/Sieve-0.1/Sieve-0.1.lua?order=name#L644`
`13:09.51`	`Chosi`	`@sbi`
`13:10.24`	`sbi`	`Chosi, my best supposition is you have trailing shit after partikel =)`
`13:10.32`	`sbi`	`trailing shit is a (tm)`
`13:10.42`	`Chosi`	`so?`
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`13:10.54`	`Chosi`	`could you reformat this statement to nongeek?`
`13:10.58`	`Chosi`	`:>`
`13:10.58`	`sbi`	`so.. verify the string really end by partikel`
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`13:11.25`	`sbi`	`and not by "partikel " or "partikel\r\n" or such`
`13:11.48`	`Adirelle\|work`	`sbi: shouldn't, it is extracted by WoW API`
`13:12.02`	`Chosi`	`it's the original tooltip`
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`13:12.16`	`Chosi`	`and it's blablablapartikel`
`13:12.50`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Chosi: are you filtering against tooltip or just item name ?`
`13:13.00`	`Chosi`	`item name`
`13:13.12`	`Adirelle\|work`	`weird`
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`13:14.30`	`Chosi`	`http://666kb.com/i/alrttj8fw4zsh4043.jpg`
`13:14.45`	`mitch0`	`> print(string.find("Foopartikel", "(.+)partikel$"));`
`13:14.45`	`mitch0`	`1 11 Foo`
`13:15.05`	`Chosi`	`the one up there in the Partikel category is "Schockdrosselnder Partikelextraktor"`
`13:15.54`	`Chosi`	`i don't really get it`
`13:15.55`	`Chosi`	`:\`
`13:16.03`	`Adirelle\|work`	`what is at end of your filter, can't read it`
`13:16.13`	`mitch0`	`it's a *`
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`13:16.17`	`mitch0`	`it should be a $`
`13:16.47`	`Chosi`	`it's not working with a $`
`13:16.51`	`mitch0`	`(or maybe it's some pixel dust, I can't really see it either :)`
`13:16.57`	`Chosi`	`it's a *, true`
`13:17.03`	`Chosi`	`no filtering at all with a $`
`13:17.11`	`Adirelle\|work`	`well, it shouldn't be a 6, it's sure`
`13:17.18`	`Adirelle\|work`	`s/6/*/`
`13:17.19`	`mitch0`	`well, then the the item name doesn't in fact end with what you think it ends with`
`13:17.21`	`Chosi`	`the Schockdrosselnder Partikelextraktor (;D) goes back to the "other" category with the $`
`13:17.42`	`Chosi`	`mitch0: propable`
`13:17.43`	`Chosi`	`y`
`13:17.47`	`Chosi`	`-e`
`13:18.03`	`mitch0`	`erm, that's good`
`13:18.10`	`mitch0`	`I mean, that's the goal, isn't it?`
`13:18.17`	`mitch0`	`that the extractor isn't filtered`
`13:18.18`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Chosi: as "Schockdrosselnder Partikelextraktor" doesn't end with "partikel", it is absolutely normal that ".+partikel$" doesn't match it`
`13:18.28`	`Chosi`	`the goal is to get everything with "partikel" at the end into one category`
`13:18.38`	`Chosi`	`true. the Schockdrosselnder Partikelextraktor shouldn't be there`
`13:18.44`	`Adirelle\|work`	`just partikel doesn"t work ?`
`13:18.48`	`sbi`	`so use the dollar sign =)`
`13:18.50`	`Chosi`	`but the one highlighted won't go there at all`
`13:19.05`	`Adirelle\|work`	`hmm...`
`13:19.16`	`mitch0`	`try experimenting with parktikel.$, partikel..$`
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`13:19.27`	`Chosi`	`maybe the "handwerkswaren" thing is priorized`
`13:19.43`	`Chosi`	`so it keeps the *partikel stuff in itself`
`13:19.44`	`Adirelle\|work`	`right`
`13:19.49`	`mitch0`	`oh ffs :)`
`13:19.57`	`Adirelle\|work`	`what the order of sections in this bag ?`
`13:20.00`	`mitch0`	`you should really do a "controlled" test here...`
`13:20.15`	`mitch0`	`like disable all other filters when trying to figure out the correct regexp`
`13:20.29`	`_neuron_`	`kergoth, changelogs are being generated with a-rwx, example Skinner/libs/Changelog-Dewdrop-r27511.txt a-rwx`
`13:20.45`	`Chosi`	`;D`
`13:20.58`	`Chosi`	`well the handwerkswaren stuff is above my new partikel category ;)`
`13:21.03`	`Adirelle\|work`	`...`
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`13:21.33`	`Chosi`	`how do i change the order anyways?`
`13:21.47`	`Chosi`	`delete and recreate?`
`13:21.51`	`Adirelle\|work`	`no`
`13:21.54`	`Adirelle\|work`	`edit bags`
`13:22.03`	`Adirelle\|work`	`and looks at shift/ctrl/alt click caption`
`13:22.06`	`Chosi`	`ah okay read it`
`13:22.07`	`Chosi`	`yup`
`13:22.20`	`Chosi`	`woohoo`
`13:22.20`	`Chosi`	`;D`
`13:22.23`	`Chosi`	`sorry dudes`
`13:22.31`	`mitch0`	`is this baggins something like Advanced Bags Plus?`
`13:22.46`	`Adirelle\|work`	`mitch0: yep, inspired by, at least`
`13:22.51`	`sbi`	`i hate bag mods! =)`
`13:22.53`	`_neuron_`	`mitch0, baggins/arkinventory/sanity2, all good bag systems`
`13:23.04`	`_neuron_`	`and latest arkinventory is broken :P`
`13:23.13`	`sbu`	`hmm`
`13:23.16`	`sbu`	`WAU broken?`
`13:23.18`	`Chosi`	`btw does anyone know if there will be some kind of gem category soon?`
`13:23.23`	`sbu`	`"has no public versions"`
`13:23.24`	`Chosi`	`i'd love to have them in one category :S`
`13:23.27`	`mitch0`	`I like ABP, but if it'll break again, I'll take a look at baggins`
`13:23.59`	`mitch0`	`_neuron_: does it also replace the standard bags and such?`
`13:24.07`	`_neuron_`	`yes`
`13:24.14`	`mitch0`	`_neuron_: what made you change in the first place?`
`13:24.14`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r27845 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer_Waypoints: Death waypoint now appears properly on death`
`13:24.30`	`_neuron_`	`mitch0, abp was broken and not maintained :P`
`13:24.45`	`_neuron_`	`and I was looking for ace2 mods to deal with it, since it's easier to update and I'm lazy :P`
`13:24.51`	`mitch0`	`neruon: and why arkinventory instead of baggins? )`
`13:24.53`	`Chosi`	`btw`
`13:24.57`	`sbi`	`Wobin, i wish i'll never notice that feature :p`
`13:25.00`	`_neuron_`	`cuz I didn't know baggins existed at the time :P`
`13:25.16`	`Wobin`	`sbi: It's inevitable =)`
`13:25.19`	`mitch0`	`hm`
`13:25.27`	`Chosi`	`btw`
`13:25.27`	`_neuron_`	`I might look at baggins though, arkinventory is a bit resource hungry when you got a massive amount of bagspace`
`13:25.29`	`sbi`	`Wobin, you are wrong! :P`
`13:25.32`	`Chosi`	`erm i just said btw already. nvm ;D`
`13:25.35`	`_neuron_`	`(just when reordering bags etc though, not under "normal" usage)`
`13:25.36`	`Wobin`	`okay, I hope someone tested some of that stuff`
`13:25.42`	`Wobin`	`Cause I'm about to head to bed`
`13:26.00`	`Chosi`	`so, how can i add multiple items to a category?`
`13:26.07`	`Chosi`	`how do i separate them in a listing?`
`13:26.18`	`_neuron_`	`hm actually I'm gonna test baggins now :P`
`13:26.23`	`_neuron_`	`since latest arkinventory broke :p`
`13:26.24`	`Chosi`	`do i have to go by itemname and just separate them by comma?`
`13:26.38`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Chosi: quick way: shift-alt-click on it, them choose : add to category`
`13:26.46`	`Chosi`	`ah nice`
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`13:26.58`	`Adirelle\|work`	`it will add them by item id`
`13:26.59`	`Chosi`	`well i don't have all of them`
`13:27.07`	`Chosi`	`wanna create a gem bag`
`13:27.20`	`Adirelle\|work`	`looks at ptset rules, there is maybe a gem items`
`13:27.36`	`Adirelle\|work`	`or maybe gem iitem type (or subtype)`
`13:28.46`	`Chosi`	`okay`
`13:28.50`	`Chosi`	`there is a Tradeskill.Gem`
`13:30.27`	`Chosi`	`nice`
`13:30.29`	`Chosi`	`werks`
`13:30.29`	`Chosi`	`:>`
`13:30.58`	`Wobin`	`sbi: I hope, then that death will be slightly more entertaining with Cart_Waypoints`
`13:32.38`	`mitch0`	`Wobin: does this Cart_WP thing take you to your corpse automagically, or just places a marker on the map? [I know, I shlud rtfm :)]`
`13:32.53`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r27846 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer_Waypoints: Added in line to translations`
`13:33.06`	`neenee`	`Hello again`
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`13:33.15`	`neenee`	`Chosi: Did you run into the fps problem again?`
`13:33.19`	`Chosi`	`nope`
`13:33.20`	`Chosi`	`never again`
`13:33.22`	`Chosi`	`dunno`
`13:33.23`	`neenee`	`:)`
`13:33.23`	`Chosi`	`:>`
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`13:34.04`	`sbi`	`Mikma, cart_wp shows you the light at the end of the tunnel and such`
`13:34.09`	`sbi`	`ops`
`13:34.13`	`sbi`	`mikma/mitch0`
`13:34.20`	`_neuron_`	`who's the baggins author?`
`13:34.30`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Nargiddley`
`13:34.31`	`Wobin`	`Nargriddley`
`13:34.43`	`_neuron_`	`he ever on irc?`
`13:34.50`	`Adirelle\|work`	`quite often`
`13:34.57`	`_neuron_`	`gr8`
`13:35.27`	`Wobin`	`~seen nargiddley`
`13:37.05`	`purl`	`nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 53m 1s ago, saying: 'and they'll be able to see each other'.`
`13:37.05`	`Wobin`	`~seen nargriddley`
`13:37.44`	`purl`	`Wobin: i haven't seen 'nargriddley'`
`13:37.44`	`Wobin`	`Man, we so can't spell =P`
`13:37.45`	`_neuron_`	`hehe`
`13:37.45`	`Chosi`	`damn`
`13:37.45`	`Chosi`	`i can't find poisons category`
`13:37.45`	`_neuron_`	`kinda like the layout of arkinventory better, but baggins is a looot faster when moving stuff around`
`13:37.45`	`Chosi`	`is there any?`
`13:37.45`	`Adirelle\|work`	`~seen Nargiddley`
`13:39.37`	`purl`	`nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 55m 33s ago, saying: 'and they'll be able to see each other'.`
`13:39.37`	`_neuron_`	`also I can destroy soulshards, huge bonus :p`
`13:39.37`	`Chosi`	`est-ce que tu connais ca?`
`13:39.37`	`Chosi`	`:D`
`13:39.38`	`sbi`	`Chosi, ça :p`
`13:39.38`	`Chosi`	`i know`
`13:39.38`	`Chosi`	`:P`
`13:39.46`	`Wobin`	`oh man so slow =P`
`13:39.46`	`Wobin`	`I figured as much, purl =)`
`13:39.46`	`_neuron_`	`mumble my tway and tloc are still MIA`
`13:39.46`	`Wobin`	`yes`
`13:39.46`	`Wobin`	`on purpose`
`13:39.46`	`_neuron_`	`why? :P`
`13:40.03`	`Wobin`	`cause the normal waypoint behaivoiur does exactly that`
`13:40.09`	`_neuron_`	`ohh`
`13:40.11`	`Wobin`	`Once you arrive, it clears the waypoint`
`13:40.26`	`Wobin`	`We don't have permanant waypoints quite yet`
`13:40.27`	`_neuron_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:40.31`	`_neuron_`	`seems more logical now ;)`
`13:40.38`	`Wobin`	`yeah, I've been fixing it tonight`
`13:40.42`	`_neuron_`	`seems /way has some debug code there still though`
`13:40.53`	`Wobin`	`howso?`
`13:41.01`	`_neuron_`	`waypoints : { -- table :1A6.. you get it`
`13:41.05`	`_neuron_`	`just print output though ;)`
`13:41.43`	`Wobin`	`ah there`
`13:41.58`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r27847 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer_Waypoints: Removed some debug statements`
`13:42.06`	`mitch0`	`Wobin: don't you want to create a MapNotes importer for Cart by any chance? :)`
`13:42.27`	`Wobin`	`I've never used Mapnotes =)`
`13:43.06`	`mitch0`	`I got a lot of stuff recorded in MapNotes, but I'd like to migrate to something better... but the MapNotes code is so horrid, I don't want to touch it :)`
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`13:43.20`	`sbi`	`you mean, notepad?`
`13:43.21`	`sbi`	`gh`
`13:43.24`	`Wobin`	`sbi: What's wrong?`
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`13:43.33`	`sbi`	`Wobin, nothing at all :\| jk`
`13:43.38`	`Wobin`	`=P`
`13:44.18`	`Chosi`	`damn baggins is mighty`
`13:44.20`	`Chosi`	`regex++`
`13:44.48`	`mitch0`	`Chosi: does baggins replace the standard bags in the bottom bar?`
`13:44.54`	`Wobin`	`mitch0: Send me a savedvariablefile for mapnotes?`
`13:44.55`	`Chosi`	`nope`
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`13:45.02`	`Chosi`	`you can open them separately`
`13:45.08`	`Chosi`	`from fubar`
`13:45.09`	`Wobin`	`I don't know if I can do anything, but I'll have a look`
`13:45.40`	`mitch0`	`Wobin: I'll try to remember :) (I'm @work atm)`
`13:45.50`	`Wobin`	`kk, wobster at gmail`
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`13:48.07`	`Wobin`	`"/mapnote k<WM Elwynn> x<0.320701> y<0.491480> t<Stormwind> i1<Entrance> i2<> cr<ciphersimian> i<0> tf<0> i1f<0> i2f<0>"`
`13:48.09`	`Wobin`	`oh god =\`
`13:48.21`	`mitch0`	`Wobin: which is your "real" nick? wobin or wobster?`
`13:48.35`	`Wobin`	`Wobin`
`13:48.43`	`abbat_w`	`=)`
`13:48.45`	`Wobin`	`But you apparantly can't have a 5 letter name as a gmail account`
`13:48.49`	`abbat_w`	`Wobln ;)`
`13:49.03`	`Wobin`	`Which I cried foul about =(`
`13:49.16`	`Wobin`	`Since the screenshot example they gave me had 'robin@gmail.com' =P`
`13:49.20`	`abbat_w`	`w0-bean ;)`
`13:49.42`	`Wobin`	`<costello>Heeeey aaaabbbat!</costello>`
`13:49.50`	`abbat_w`	`:)`
`13:52.57`	`mitch0`	`btw, how does an addon go from dev.wowace to the addon listing page? :)`
`13:53.10`	`[Ammo]`	`you mean files.wowace.com?`
`13:53.13`	`[Ammo]`	`automatically every 20 mins`
`13:53.13`	`sbi`	`svnweb maybe?`
`13:53.20`	`sbi`	`not :D`
`13:53.29`	`[Ammo]`	`a script zips up the new revisions`
`13:53.38`	`mitch0`	`http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Category:Addons&until=ManaTideTracker`
`13:53.42`	`mitch0`	`^^ this place`
`13:54.18`	`[Ammo]`	`that's done with a commit script that parses the .toc's that are comitted`
`13:54.21`	`[Ammo]`	`for specific metadata`
`13:54.33`	`sbi`	`i thought there was a webmonkey doing so :(`
`13:54.49`	`mitch0`	`[Ammo]: where can I read about those special metadata?`
`13:55.18`	`sbi`	`mitch0, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Library_Header <- those maybe?`
`13:55.29`	`Wobin`	`not quite`
`13:55.45`	`FISKER_Q`	`UFO: Afterlight is so bugged :P`
`13:55.48`	`sbi`	`what's being parsed then?`
`13:55.50`	`Wobin`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Metadata`
`13:56.05`	`Wobin`	`perhaps`
`13:57.34`	`sbi`	`maybe both are parsed ^^`
`13:57.34`	`[Ammo]`	`what wobin says`
`13:57.34`	`[Ammo]`	`toc is parse`
`13:57.34`	`mitch0`	`thanks`
`13:57.34`	`[Ammo]`	`lua isn't`
`13:59.33`	`mitch0`	`[Ammo]: so as long as I don't have a X-Category field in toc, my addon won't show up in the Addon Listing, right?`
`13:59.52`	`Wobin`	`aye`
`13:59.59`	`Wobin`	`well, actually I don't know for sure =`
`14:00.01`	`Wobin`	`)`
`14:00.11`	`Wobin`	`So I'll go to sleep =)`
`14:00.11`	`abbat_w`	`hmm...`
`14:00.12`	`Wobin`	`Night all`
`14:00.31`	`abbat_w`	`so if i remove X-Category from TOC WAU won't update this addon?`
`14:00.56`	`mitch0`	`alright, I'll look into this stuff when I fill in the spell lists for the rest of the classes for RangeCheck`
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`14:05.30`	`_neuron_`	`gah... when I enable trade/general channels in my secondary window they dont show up there at all`
`14:05.34`	`_neuron_`	`anyone had that problem?`
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`14:11.06`	`vithos`	`works for me in 3rd window`
`14:11.39`	`_neuron_`	`come to think of it I have it in third too :P`
`14:11.42`	`_neuron_`	`combatlog is number two :P`
`14:11.53`	`vithos`	`same here`
`14:12.08`	`FISKER_Q`	`Isn't there a bug like that being fixed in 2.0.7?`
`14:13.19`	`_neuron_`	`hm I think it is actually`
`14:13.47`	`chutwig`	`the chat windows have been broken since time immemorial`
`14:14.29`	`sbi`	`i do confirm =)`
`14:14.51`	`mitch0`	`at least mine doesn't default to the guild chat on logon :) been doing that for half a year`
`14:14.57`	`_neuron_`	`that's one thing, but when they break the loot system.. that rrreally pisses me off`
`14:15.00`	`sbi`	`i noticed the "where the fug the combat log is gone" bug several times =)`
`14:15.48`	`_neuron_`	`yeah :P`
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`14:17.38`	`_neuron_`	`so good.. last night, was in a pug, the partyleader changed to master looter in combat and was gonna ninja a drop`
`14:17.44`	`_neuron_`	`master looter bugged and he couldn't get it :P`
`14:17.53`	`sbi`	`lal@him`
`14:17.54`	`sbi`	`:D`
`14:17.58`	`Adirelle\|work`	`lol`
`14:18.04`	`FISKER_Q`	`oh`
`14:18.21`	`FISKER_Q`	`So in UFO: Afterlight my base runs out of water`
`14:18.24`	`chutwig`	`hate pugs`
`14:18.39`	`FISKER_Q`	`And the game ends with a sequence of the base being attacked and then attack with some form of nuclear bomb`
`14:18.53`	`sbi`	`chutwig, i like pugs! you are in heroic mode even without the key! lol`
`14:18.56`	`FISKER_Q`	`Didn't know that happened from thirst`
`14:19.41`	`evl`	`How can I detect when a player applies a temporary weapon enchant?`
`14:19.51`	`Adirelle\|work`	`sbi: often my pet IA is better than pug I, at least it didn't break my traps`
`14:19.51`	`evl`	`or when that enchant gets replaced/charges are used`
`14:20.05`	`sbi`	`Adirelle\|work, i strongly agree =)`
`14:20.27`	`sbi`	`Adirelle\|work, btw, your pet breaks dragon breath, true story :p`
`14:20.50`	`Adirelle\|work`	`?`
`14:21.08`	`sbi`	`ya :) pets continue attacking if a mob get dragonbreathed`
`14:21.37`	`Adirelle\|work`	`dragonbreath is a mage talent, isn't it ?`
`14:21.45`	`sbi`	`sure, the 3 second blink`
`14:21.46`	`sbi`	`blinD`
`14:21.50`	`sbi`	`41 fire talent`
`14:21.58`	`Adirelle\|work`	`oki, have to read what it does`
`14:22.15`	`sbi`	`aoe front cone damage + aoe front cone blind for 3 secs`
`14:22.34`	`sbi`	`panic button for a fire mage aggroing :D`
`14:22.53`	`Adirelle\|work`	`oh okay`
`14:22.59`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Blizzard failed...`
`14:23.46`	`Adirelle\|work`	`but well, at least it doesn't break hunters' own abilities, as it does long time ago`
`14:23.51`	`sbi`	`well, at least, hunter's pets are often more skilled than the average people in pugs :)`
`14:24.39`	`sbi`	`i like pugs though!`
`14:27.04`	`[Ammo]`	`the problem with pugs is that I can't spew profanity`
`14:27.15`	`[Ammo]`	`because it might be a 12 year old on the other side`
`14:27.19`	`sbi`	`oh`
`14:27.20`	`[Ammo]`	`while with guildgroups I can :)`
`14:27.32`	`sbi`	`i usually invite pug people in our ts :p`
`14:27.36`	`sbi`	`so i can!`
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`14:28.40`	`Silviu-`	`Wobin , ping :P`
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`14:32.23`	`*** mode/#wowace [+v GoogleSearch] by ChanServ`
`14:32.43`	`GoogleSearch`	`Heya ;)`
`14:33.24`	`Wogroipl`	`hello, does anyone know if Arkinventory is broken with the last update?`
`14:33.55`	`FISKER_Q`	`i like you GoogleSearch`
`14:34.06`	`FISKER_Q`	`now i can say "Do a Go<tab> GoogleSearch"`
`14:34.15`	`GoogleSearch`	`~GoogleSearch`
`14:34.24`	`purl`	`rumour has it, googlesearch is a Google Search Bot. Type !googlehelp to display commands.`
`14:34.33`	`sbi`	`~GoogleSearch epix`
`14:34.38`	`[Ammo]`	`!googlehelp epix`
`14:34.46`	`[Ammo]`	`twiddle`
`14:34.48`	`[Ammo]`	`slowass bot`
`14:35.11`	`GoogleSearch`	`blblblblb :p`
`14:35.56`	`sbi`	`i wish horde could roll a druid without being forced to tauren :(`
`14:36.04`	`sbi`	`i hate when my pg scratches his ass`
`14:36.28`	`Wogroipl`	`how else do you get the flies away?`
`14:36.41`	`sbi`	`wobWork, farting?`
`14:36.52`	`sbi`	`i hate nick-completion too`
`14:37.15`	`Wogroipl`	`http://ace.pastey.net/6487 does this mean anything to someone?`
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`14:38.23`	`JoshBorke`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`14:41.09`	`sbi`	`you guys think crafting frozen shadoweave is worth the time/mats ?`
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`14:42.52`	`_neuron_`	`would love to find more shadowcloth though :P`
`14:42.59`	`_neuron_`	`taking too damn long`
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`14:43.10`	`sbi`	`_neuron_, mage or lock?`
`14:43.14`	`_neuron_`	`lock`
`14:43.35`	`sbi`	`i dunno if as a mage it's worth it`
`14:44.08`	`_neuron_`	`imo race is important too :P, looks semi decent on an orc, but it looks insanly horrible on undead :P`
`14:44.20`	`_neuron_`	`http://uploadextra.com/img1/452262frosha.JPG <3 :P`
`14:44.41`	`sbi`	`<- undead female`
`14:45.12`	`evl`	`Is there a way to do C style expr = a ? b : c?`
`14:45.15`	`_neuron_`	`you'll look pretty damn silly in frozen shadoweave then I think :P`
`14:46.07`	`sbi`	`evl, http://lua-users.org/wiki/TernaryOperator`
`14:46.32`	`sbi`	`evl, long story short, no`
`14:46.44`	`evl`	`:D`
`14:47.11`	`sbi`	`_neuron_, who cares, with that spellpower, you'll see me just in black and white :P`
`14:47.17`	`_neuron_`	`hehe`
`14:48.37`	`sbi`	`_neuron_, worst looking set, EVER`
`14:48.56`	`_neuron_`	`shoulders are kinda cool on my orc actually`
`14:48.59`	`_neuron_`	`as they get kinda big`
`14:49.16`	`Mikma`	`the pink shirt doesn't help in the gayness look of that picture either _neuron_`
`14:49.23`	`_neuron_`	`yeah, that's not me though`
`14:49.25`	`sbi`	`gosh, that pink shirt is even worst =)`
`14:49.28`	`_neuron_`	`that's just a pic a friend of mine sent me ;)`
`14:49.47`	`sbi`	`_neuron_, gay friends! UHM!`
`14:49.49`	`_neuron_`	`imo they look pretty good on orc ;)`
`14:49.57`	`_neuron_`	`sbi, random link on irc being sent to me actually :P`
`14:50.04`	`sbi`	`eheh`
`14:50.12`	`_neuron_`	`guy going "this is the set your farming for, hahahaha" :p`
`14:50.15`	`Mikma`	`_neuron_: tubgirl.com?`
`14:50.16`	`_neuron_`	`+ that link`
`14:50.36`	`_neuron_`	`Mikma, I've been on irc since undernet was brand new, I've got enough experience to not open links like that anymore :P`
`14:52.01`	`Mikma`	`_neuron_: and the whole idea is spoiled now. gosh, i shouldn't have said the url out loud, i should have justr`
`14:52.06`	`Mikma`	`just tinyurl it`
`14:52.11`	`_neuron_`	`hehe`
`14:52.12`	`Mikma`	`heh :)`
`14:52.25`	`_neuron_`	`oh ffs... I just reset my chat settings, made new chat windows, still nothing shows up in my window #3`
`14:52.28`	`sbi`	`was it something like rotten or goatse?`
`14:52.29`	`sbi`	`lol`
`14:52.30`	`_neuron_`	`including whispers or anything like that`
`14:52.32`	`Mikma`	`damn enter is too close to backspace`
`14:52.38`	`FISKER_Q`	`I've been on 4chan for more than a day, i've seen worse`
`14:56.16`	`sbi`	`worst than goatse? WOAH`
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`15:04.29`	`Silviu-`	`~seen Wobin`
`15:05.41`	`purl`	`wobin <n=wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1h 5m 23s ago, saying: 'Night all'.`
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`15:09.48`	`sylvanaar`	`good morning`
`15:10.22`	`sbi`	`_neuron_, http://dns2.ics-srl.com/~sbi/screenshot.rar`
`15:10.43`	`sbi`	`i have horns!`
`15:11.51`	`_neuron_`	`loading.... loading.... loading :P`
`15:11.54`	`_neuron_`	`that server's slow`
`15:12.00`	`sbi`	`not really :p`
`15:12.04`	`sbi`	`20Mbit =)`
`15:14.24`	`_neuron_`	`cant load that page though :P`
`15:14.47`	`sbi`	`oh`
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`15:14.53`	`sbi`	`_neuron_, http://dns2.ics-srl.net/~sbi/screenshot.rar`
`15:14.56`	`sbi`	`wrong domain =)`
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`15:16.16`	`kenlyric\|work`	`work complete!`
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`15:18.54`	`Xuerian`	`Mm. coffeh.`
`15:21.24`	`yacoob`	`http://mirrors.gigenet.com/riosec-mirror.txt?q=solaris-telnet-0-day :DD`
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`15:23.20`	`sbi`	`lol`
`15:23.31`	`sbi`	`telnet + solaris = whit fly`
`15:23.47`	`sbi`	`btw, really worst silliest bug ever =)`
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`15:28.20`	`sbi`	`lol@suggesting rule for -froot`
`15:28.25`	`sbi`	`what about -fbin ?`
`15:29.08`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`15:29.15`	`art3mis`	`but really who uses telnet anymore`
`15:29.22`	`art3mis`	`they deserve to be rooted`
`15:30.30`	`deltron`	`wow that is one sad sad bug`
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`15:30.54`	`sbi`	`i wonder since when that bug is being exploited =)`
`15:31.02`	`sylvanaar`	`abbat_w did you have a WAU question?`
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`15:36.03`	xyu`	`anyone have al ink for SW_stats latest install`
`15:36.12`	xyu`	`i can't seem to find it. it used to be on their forums but i dont think it is any longer`
`15:37.24`	`sylvanaar`	`i updated some of the WAU docs on the wiki - please feel free to add to them`
`15:37.26`	`sylvanaar`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WinAceUpdater`
`15:38.15`	`sylvanaar`	`http://www.sw-stats.com/rel/SW_Stats.zip`
`15:40.50`	`neenee`	`Is anyone here using FuzzyLogic?`
`15:41.01`	`sylvanaar`	xyu`did you get it?
`15:42.24`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27848 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: .Babble-Boss-2.2: Added some Serpentshrine Cavern bosses.`
`15:42.27`	xyu`	`yeah once my new antivirus shuts up`
`15:42.47`	`mitch0`	`oh jolly, they fixed the local defence bug`
`15:43.23`	`sbi`	`what?`
`15:43.42`	`sbi`	`mitch0, can you explain the bug?`
`15:43.50`	`neenee`	`Is there an addon which allows the binding of keys to macros?`
`15:44.03`	`mitch0`	`the local defence channel was stuck on some random earlier zone you were in`
`15:44.12`	`sbi`	`oh`
`15:44.21`	`mitch0`	`like reporting tower captures in HP when you were in zangamarsh, and stuff like that`
`15:44.31`	`sbi`	`never noticed :)`
`15:44.40`	`sbi`	`ah true! =)`
`15:44.41`	`mitch0`	`worst time for me was when it was stuck on southshore :)`
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`15:44.58`	`mitch0`	`someone seemed to have re-started the tarren mill wars there..`
`15:45.10`	`sbi`	`actually the only problem i'm having is i can't manage to show the minimap`
`15:45.14`	`sbi`	`maybe i'm dumb :(`
`15:45.33`	`mitch0`	`there should be a keybinding for that sort of thing`
`15:45.48`	`Industrial`	`there is`
`15:45.50`	`Industrial`	`and should`
`15:46.05`	`sbi`	`oh thanks`
`15:46.07`	`mitch0`	`I unbound it though, 'cos I hated it when I accidentally triggered it and didn't remember what key to press to get it back :)`
`15:46.07`	`Industrial`	`because the minimap is useless most of the time, unless you are tracking.`
`15:46.14`	`mitch0`	`I like it`
`15:46.40`	`Industrial`	`i just know where i am :P`
`15:46.41`	`mitch0`	`probly just for the compass thingy, but still...`
`15:46.58`	`mitch0`	`ah, and the yellow dots for the quest givers`
`15:47.04`	`sbi`	`i want a new pc :(`
`15:47.32`	`mitch0`	`mine is getting overly noisy nowadays`
`15:47.41`	`mitch0`	`so you wouldn't be happy with it :)`
`15:47.46`	`sbi`	`mitch0, allready tried the resolving-kick ?`
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`15:47.58`	xyu`	`wowwowowowo mirc needs to stfu.`
`15:47.58`	`mitch0`	`nah, it's not that kind of noisy now`
`15:48.03`	xyu`	`i had it set to beep on message`
`15:48.06`	xyu`	`and now it wont stop beeping`
`15:48.16`	`mitch0`	`mirc sux`
`15:48.30`	`mitch0`	`(bitchx sux, too, but that's the only thing I have access to atm)`
`15:48.31`	`sbi`	`i liked mirc :(`
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`15:49.06`	`mitch0`	`sbi: my comp probly needs some cleaning now. all of the fans are covered with dust, that's my guess`
`15:49.18`	xyu`	`mirc is the only thing i have eyes for`
`15:49.28`	xyu`	`brb restarting i suppse`
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`15:53.06`	`neenee`	`found it, spellbinder`
`15:53.08`	`neenee`	`sbi: ?`
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`15:53.20`	`neenee`	`ah`
`15:53.21`	`sbi`	`sup?`
`15:53.28`	`neenee`	`I thought it said 'you' instead of 'xyu'`
`15:53.40`	`neenee`	`Never mind me :)`
`15:53.46`	`sbi`	`np :)`
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`15:54.20`	`xyu`	`wow i had to reboot the whole computer to get the beep to stop`
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`15:58.02`	`xyu`	`anyone use nvidia and dual monitor set up? i can't get wow to start up on my secondary (non-primary) monitor for the life of me`
`15:58.06`	`xyu`	`it worked fine before i formatted :(`
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`15:59.14`	`krka`	`xyu: i have a nvidia graphics card, and use the secondary output on my tv`
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`15:59.14`	`krka`	`haven't tried running wow on that though`
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`15:59.38`	`krka`	`but for other stuff, i just set DISPLAY = 0:1 and then launch the program`
`15:59.40`	`krka`	`such as xine or firefox`
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`16:00.30`	`art3mis`	`http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic`
`16:00.37`	`xyu`	`as a command line peram?`
`16:00.38`	`xyu`	`i'm not sure how to do that`
`16:00.38`	`xyu`	`i was using nVIew`
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`16:13.31`	xyu`	`hrm wow can't display the game in 1280x1024? mine doesn't have the option...strange`
`16:14.40`	`Daemona`	`cause your display settings dont allow it? e.g. monitor&gfx drivers`
`16:14.40`	`Daemona`	`it only display resolutions the combo can display`
`16:14.40`	`Ordog`	`im playing at that res all the time xyu`
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`16:14.41`	xyu`	`i have lcd and its native res is 1280x1024`
`16:14.54`	xyu`	`but the option just isn't there. maybe i need to install some display drivers. i'll give it a shot`
`16:14.58`	xyu`	`but weird`
`16:15.07`	`Ordog`	`is your windows desktop at that res?`
`16:15.12`	xyu`	`yes`
`16:15.21`	xyu`	`well one of them is the one the game is running on is.`
`16:15.25`	`Ordog`	`hm tried opengl ?`
`16:15.31`	xyu`	`nope`
`16:15.38`	xyu`	`i'd rather not :P`
`16:16.09`	`Ordog`	`just try if you got the choice then`
`16:16.15`	`Daemona`	`rather consider installing your tft's driver i'd say, windows just forces compatibilty 60Hz if no driver is installed, WoW just doesnt allow the resolution iirc`
`16:16.16`	`Xuerian`	`xyu: Are you running it on the primary monitor?`
`16:16.35`	xyu`	`yeah`
`16:16.43`	xyu`	`i just formatted`
`16:17.06`	`Xuerian`	`driver(s)`
`16:17.17`	xyu`	`yeah could be, installing them now`
`16:17.59`	`Daemona`	`-.- you complain something isnt working and you didnt even bother install all drivers!?`
`16:19.51`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27849 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Added drycoded Doomwalker module, only warns for earthquake and fixes the chat error at the moment.`
`16:20.00`	`Arilaw`	`Daemona: Story of my life at work. :(`
`16:21.04`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27850 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: Add some shorthand functions just for fun.`
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`16:22.15`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27851 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: Extend the Bar and Message functions a bit.`
`16:22.30`	`Lysithea`	`Anyone know an addon in which I can move the message that's shown whenever I change zone/area?`
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`16:23.31`	`Daemona`	`Arilaw same ;)`
`16:24.05`	`sbi`	`my life is easier!`
`16:24.19`	`sbi`	`there's one layer between me and the ******ng luser`
`16:24.33`	`sbi`	`lol`
`16:26.41`	`Arilaw`	`I work for Brother Intl. doing software support for their printers. :P`
`16:26.49`	`Arilaw`	`If one more person installs XP drivers on Vista I'm going to cry.`
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`16:27.39`	`mitch0`	`why do they even use vista in the first place...?`
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`16:27.42`	`CIA-17`	`03hyperactiveChipmunk * r27852 10Cartographer_CorpseWay/:`
`16:27.42`	`CIA-17`	`Cartographer_CorpseWay:`
`16:27.42`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed directory. Functionality now incorporated into Cartographer_Waypoints.`
`16:27.43`	`sbi`	`Arilaw, ehy i got the same problem, may i query you?`
`16:27.44`	`sbi`	`lol`
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`16:28.27`	`Arilaw`	`mitch0: Free upgrade from XP on their new computers.`
`16:28.37`	`mitch0`	`so? :)`
`16:28.39`	`mitch0`	`xp works`
`16:28.55`	`sbi`	`even 2000 works :p`
`16:29.04`	`renchap`	`linux works.`
`16:29.11`	`Arilaw`	`We don't support Linux thankfully.`
`16:29.31`	`mitch0`	`2000 was the first okayish OS from MS`
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`16:29.41`	`mitch0`	`xp is almost usable ;)`
`16:29.51`	`sbi`	`renchap, that's wrong, here in soviet russia YOU work on linux =)`
`16:29.57`	`art3mis`	`heh ive taken care of my users by saying "unless you wanna sign a service contract right now for 4 hours a month, i wouldnt reccomend upgradeing to vista"`
`16:30.18`	`art3mis`	`generally the thought of a 1 year 500/mn contract makes them think twice`
`16:30.19`	`sbi`	`art3mis, you did right :) we did the same here :)`
`16:30.35`	`art3mis`	`its absolutely horrid`
`16:30.47`	`art3mis`	`whats even worse is that MS gave all action pack people the business upgrade`
`16:30.57`	`art3mis`	`so we're in no way prepared for what the end user actually has`
`16:31.29`	`art3mis`	`and the only way the business upgrade works correctly is to do an "install in a different location"`
`16:31.42`	`sbi`	`=)`
`16:31.50`	`art3mis`	`since upgrading makes it think that ahrdware has somehow changed when it hits the last reboot and cuases blue screens`
`16:31.57`	`sbi`	`we have few test machines with vista installed`
`16:32.00`	`art3mis`	`did this all on my test box ;P`
`16:32.08`	`sbi`	`seems a bit slow btw`
`16:32.11`	`art3mis`	`yeah`
`16:32.14`	`sbi`	`at least on these machines`
`16:32.20`	`art3mis`	`the resources suck badly compared to xp pro`
`16:32.36`	`art3mis`	`the main bitch i have against it is the attempt to make it unix like with the seperate system/user layers`
`16:32.50`	`art3mis`	`that dont talk correctly between each other and cause popups if you're on as admin`
`16:33.09`	`art3mis`	`i do like the hardware wizard though`
`16:33.16`	`art3mis`	`at least THAT part has gotten better`
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`16:33.58`	`art3mis`	`ive got it running on a amd3000+xp (2.4ghz) with 1.5gb ram and its still slow to react`
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`16:34.18`	`Xuerian`	`What's the graphics card in it?`
`16:34.45`	`art3mis`	`i "think" its a 9550 radeon "maddog" 128mb`
`16:34.53`	`art3mis`	`cant remember which card i put in it`
`16:35.12`	`Xuerian`	`Could be the card, too :P`
`16:35.17`	`art3mis`	`doubtful`
`16:35.42`	`art3mis`	`if a video card can slow down an OS you've made a shitty interface ;P`
`16:36.03`	`art3mis`	`besides it have no probs at all in xp pro or 2k3 or 2k`
`16:36.04`	`Daemona`	`with the glass surface, surely a gfx can slow vista`
`16:36.10`	xyu`	`hmm my simpleminimap is all funky. its not letting me touch my minimap`
`16:36.10`	`Arilaw`	`Oh sweet.`
`16:36.11`	`art3mis`	`its default right now`
`16:36.13`	xyu`	`i can't zoom it in or out`
`16:36.16`	`Xuerian`	`art3mis: * If a video card can slow down a os that was purposefully made to shuffle rendering onto a videocard, then you're just not smart.`
`16:36.17`	`Arilaw`	`I'm at work right now on the phone with a customer.`
`16:36.20`	xyu`	`or touch any addon button attatched to it`
`16:36.23`	`Daemona`	`i wouldnt even consider putting something below a 6600 nvidia or equivalent into a vista box`
`16:36.32`	`Arilaw`	`He can't print over the network because he didn't have the ethernet cable connected to the printer.`
`16:36.38`	`Arilaw`	`And he installed the USB drivers.`
`16:36.39`	`Xuerian`	`bahahaha`
`16:36.40`	`art3mis`	`its not the videoc ard ;P`
`16:36.42`	`Arilaw`	`\o/`
`16:36.56`	`Xuerian`	`art3mis: Have you tried a better one?`
`16:37.26`	`Xuerian`	`(nuuu...)`
`16:37.34`	`art3mis`	`im not even gonna discuss how retarded your argument is being ;P`
`16:37.47`	`Xuerian`	`art3mis: I'm discussing how retarded your argument is being :)`
`16:37.55`	`Xuerian`	`If you haven't tried better, how do you know? ;)`
`16:38.09`	`art3mis`	`that some how all my vista problems stem from a 128mb ddr video card?`
`16:38.13`	`art3mis`	`give me a break`
`16:38.33`	`sbi`	`calm down :p`
`16:38.47`	`art3mis`	`thast like claiming your car goes slower because of the tint you put on yer windshield`
`16:39.01`	`Arilaw`	`What problems?`
`16:39.04`	`Xuerian`	`....`
`16:39.10`	`Arilaw`	`:P`
`16:39.12`	`art3mis`	`in applications where graphics played a factor yes it would be valid, however a desktop is not an application with a high graphics load`
`16:39.14`	`durcyn`	`your car isn't trying to render a gui with its tint, sparky`
`16:39.14`	`art3mis`	`;)`
`16:39.57`	`art3mis`	`so graphics is the cause of a slow boot from off, and a slow opening of explorer and slow office loads?`
`16:40.02`	`Xuerian`	`art3mis: You obviously have not paid much attention to the graphical aspect of Vista's development and the rampant heated pissyness of the linux crowd over how it requires a good videocard to do (while linux can do it on practically nothing)`
`16:40.36`	`art3mis`	`while NONE of these problems appeared on my laptop with a 64mb radeon mobility in beta?`
`16:40.45`	`art3mis`	`no thats quite alrigh`
`16:40.46`	`art3mis`	`t`
`16:41.00`	`evl`	`is it possible to show a tooltip when mousing over a FontString?`
`16:41.06`	`CIA-17`	`03durcyn * r27853 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/Cooldown.lua:`
`16:41.06`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_tcgTradeskills:`
`16:41.06`	`CIA-17`	`- add cooldowns for Primal Mooncloth, Spellcloth, and Shadowcloth.`
`16:41.52`	`sbi`	`need more shadowcloth!`
`16:41.59`	`art3mis`	`whats the cooldown on that?`
`16:42.03`	`art3mis`	`4days like moon?`
`16:42.10`	`Xuerian`	`art3mis: Vista B1 ran quite well on my 1.0ghz amd/512mb(pc100)/ATI X700-256. I'm not saying vista isn't a fickle resource-hungry monster. I'm saying it eats videocards alive sometimes, and sometimes not :p`
`16:42.10`	`sbi`	`yep`
`16:42.23`	`sbi`	`every cloth = 4 days cd are not shared`
`16:42.47`	`art3mis`	`and im saying that after doing tech work since 89, im fairly certain i can tell the differences in resource hogginess ;P`
`16:42.51`	`art3mis`	`so nyah`
`16:43.02`	`art3mis`	`ooo non-share makes that not as crappy`
`16:43.29`	`Barbanus`	`mmm`
`16:43.31`	`art3mis`	`but then again i AM on irc`
`16:43.32`	`Barbanus`	`bean juice`
`16:43.41`	`art3mis`	`where no matter whats said, someone always knows better ;P`
`16:43.54`	`art3mis`	`i do it all the time too ;)`
`16:44.01`	`art3mis`	`it's impossible to stop yourself`
`16:44.03`	`durcyn`	`so.. many.. emoticons...`
`16:44.09`	`Xuerian`	`art3mis: I don't know better. I just like to argue, and I've seen that most of the complaints about vista being slow are counterpointed by it running fine on systems with better graphics cards`
`16:44.12`	`art3mis`	`get a real client`
`16:44.19`	`Xuerian`	`I haven't actually touched vista since b1. :p`
`16:44.23`	`durcyn`	`irssi is a real client, bub.`
`16:44.31`	`durcyn`	`but thanks for knowing better`
`16:44.32`	`art3mis`	`not if it shows emoticons it aint`
`16:44.35`	`art3mis`	`;)`
`16:44.43`	`durcyn`	`how am i going to render graphics in an xterm?`
`16:44.47`	`art3mis`	`magic!`
`16:44.54`	`durcyn`	`i was kvetching about the characters themselves!`
`16:44.58`	`durcyn`	`anyway`
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`16:45.04`	`Xuerian`	`That's gotta be a first o.o`
`16:45.11`	`art3mis`	`how did we get on the videoc ard branch anyways`
`16:45.17`	`art3mis`	`oh`
`16:45.20`	`durcyn`	`you mentioned vista sucking`
`16:45.29`	`Xuerian`	`You said it wasn't being snappy.`
`16:45.30`	`Xuerian`	`:p`
`16:45.30`	`art3mis`	`alright then!!! soo many ascii!`
`16:45.31`	`durcyn`	`and video cards are one of the best ways to make vista suck`
`16:45.37`	`durcyn`	`so. here we are.`
`16:45.43`	`art3mis`	`no i said it sucked ass compared to xp ;)`
`16:46.11`	`Barbanus`	`wow...`
`16:46.13`	`durcyn`	`and it's utf8 actually. put that in your pipe and smoke it.`
`16:46.16`	`Barbanus`	`BEAN JUICE`
`16:46.18`	`Barbanus`	`discuss`
`16:46.21`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`16:46.23`	`djspark`	`is there any published cartographer databases out there for hte cartographer_quests ?`
`16:46.42`	`Xuerian`	`" slow to react"! hah.`
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`16:47.34`	`art3mis`	`i never said that ;P`
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`16:48.19`	`art3mis`	`oh wait yes i did`
`16:48.23`	`art3mis`	`mr.paraphrase`
`16:48.37`	`art3mis`	`it was also after <art3mis> the resources suck badly compared to xp pro`
`16:48.50`	`art3mis`	`but i gotta scamper to work, well debate later ;P\`
`16:49.40`	`djspark`	`does kodewulf ever idle here?`
`16:50.31`	`durcyn`	`~seen kodewulf`
`16:51.07`	`purl`	`kodewulf <n=kodewulf@220-253-37-241.VIC.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19d 11h 50m 23s ago, saying: 'you mean i should actually be nice to you instead... :)'.`
`16:51.07`	`Xuerian`	`have fun, art3mis :p`
`16:51.07`	`Worf`	`hmm... vista... i think i somewhen gotta test it too - just to be able to curse about it :)`
`16:51.38`	`Xuerian`	`Wasn't it kodewulf that had the hissy and pulled his addons from svn?`
`16:51.52`	`djspark`	`ruh roh`
`16:52.12`	`Xuerian`	`They're on WoWI now anyway`
`16:52.15`	`Barbanus`	`too much blood in my caffiene stream still`
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`16:52.37`	`Xuerian`	`XD`
`16:53.47`	`Xuerian`	`Hm...`
`16:53.53`	`Arilaw`	`I hate you both and your bean-juice.`
`16:53.57`	`Xuerian`	`:3`
`16:54.01`	`evl`	`Is it possible to call the OnEnter script of another frame in some way?`
`16:54.10`	`Arilaw`	`I want to sit at home with bean-juice and WoW. :(`
`16:54.25`	`Barbanus`	`sit at work .. with it :P`
`16:54.36`	`Barbanus`	`we have coffee machines here :P`
`16:55.24`	`Xuerian`	`Hm. Try starting on my foobar plugin, start on Scribe, or re-write the options for Xloot*... <.<`
`16:55.36`	`Xuerian`	`.... Or actually work on the site I was supposed to finish a few months ago...`
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`16:55.52`	`axxo`	`whats scribe?`
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`16:56.24`	`Xuerian`	`At the current conceptual stage, it's a logging framework :P`
`16:56.41`	`Barbanus`	`what site are you working on?`
`16:56.44`	`axxo`	`what foobar plugin?`
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`16:57.36`	`Xuerian`	`axxo: One to allow lua scripting & access to the api/win32api (Mainly to allow fully-featured skins ala foo_looks, for v9)`
`16:57.57`	`Xuerian`	`Barbanus: A site for my parent's business :P`
`16:58.06`	`Barbanus`	`Xuerian, ahhh`
`16:58.11`	`axxo`	`work on the website`
`16:58.19`	`Barbanus`	`Yea I wrote one of those about a year ago :P`
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`16:58.41`	`Xuerian`	`:P`
`16:58.59`	`Barbanus`	`parents are the worst clients, BTW`
`16:59.10`	`Xuerian`	`heheh.`
`16:59.48`	`durcyn`	`i don't mind so much when my folks ask me to do things for them, it's when i get a call on a saturday night from one of their friends asking me to fix a pc or something`
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`17:01.00`	`Xuerian`	`X.x`
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`17:02.29`	`durcyn`	`hrm, when did the changelog name and format change?`
`17:02.46`	`durcyn`	`getting changelog-addonname-revision, and the contents are xml`
`17:03.01`	`Xuerian`	`durcyn: Last night`
`17:03.19`	`durcyn`	`well, someone forgot to tell WAU`
`17:04.08`	`Xuerian`	`They just need to implement it, they weren't on when Kaelten made the change last night :P`
`17:06.16`	`durcyn`	`that's all well and good, but i predict some wailing and gnashing of teeth in the maen time`
`17:07.58`	`Xuerian`	`Oh, no doubt.`
`17:13.58`	`deltron`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:13.59`	`deltron`	`:(`
`17:14.03`	`deltron`	`reboot time`
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`17:16.54`	`maia`	`hey guys. does anyone happen to know if the html/xml code for files.wowace.com has been changed in the past 24 hours? my MacAceUpdater stopped working, and I guess its because it cant parse the new layout.`
`17:17.25`	`Arilaw`	`haha`
`17:18.00`	`Xuerian`	`Why, speak of the devil's handywork itself.`
`17:18.36`	`sbi`	`lol`
`17:18.46`	`Xuerian`	`maia: Kaelten changed the output to some fancier xml, and pp/whoever hasn't updated wau yet.`
`17:18.57`	`maia`	`ouch`
`17:19.42`	`maia`	`well, I hope pprovst (or whatever his name is) isn't on a 3 week vacation.`
`17:19.57`	`durcyn`	`we have the source, think i'll work up a diff for him now.. it's a simple change`
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`17:21.15`	`maia`	`yeah, but he'll have to recompile it.`
`17:22.01`	`durcyn`	`it's just a .net compiler, you can grab those for free these days`
`17:22.23`	`durcyn`	`but yeah, he would have to post it on sourceforge`
`17:22.30`	`durcyn`	`~seen pprovost`
`17:23.08`	`purl`	`pprovost <n=PProvost@pool-71-112-39-129.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 23h 53m 12s ago, saying: 'I assume they are LOD based on whether the toon has that skill or not?'.`
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`17:23.20`	`maia`	`are we talking about macaceupdater or winaceupdater?`
`17:23.29`	`maia`	`because there's nothing like .net for OSX afaik.`
`17:23.44`	`vhaarr`	`Mono.`
`17:24.03`	`maia`	`huh?`
`17:24.16`	`sbi`	`well just to tell the truth..`
`17:24.17`	`sbi`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:24.21`	`sbi`	`there is`
`17:24.23`	`sbi`	`but nvm`
`17:24.40`	`Dekuna`	`~flee`
`17:24.50`	`purl`	`ACTION runs away screaming`
`17:24.50`	`durcyn`	`the mac ace updater doesn't use mono, iirc. but yeah, any of them that parse the changelog name or contents will need to be updated`
`17:25.48`	`maia`	`guess kaelten should have posted the upcoming changes a few days in advance on the forums, so the apps can adjust in time`
`17:26.51`	`Arilaw`	`Foresight is overrated.`
`17:26.52`	`Arilaw`	`:P`
`17:35.19`	`\|Kev\|`	`the mac ace updater is native objective-c / cocoa`
`17:36.10`	`\|Kev\|`	`and yeah, it won't work if the html gets changed`
`17:36.10`	`Kaelten_`	`g'morning`
`17:36.50`	`Xuerian`	`Kaelten_: People are out for your blood.`
`17:37.04`	`Kaelten_`	`whats new?`
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`17:37.12`	`durcyn`	`i'd actually prefer a bit of marrow, if that's still available`
`17:37.14`	`Kaelten`	`what did I do this time?`
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`17:37.21`	Funkeh`	`hi all`
`17:37.41`	Funkeh`	`hows everyone been?`
`17:38.08`	`Xuerian`	`Changed the xml format on files before wau was updated for it :P`
`17:38.57`	`Kaelten`	`hrm? only thing that should be messed up is the changelog`
`17:39.01`	`maia`	`and mau`
`17:39.05`	`Kaelten`	`descript.ion file output is still there.`
`17:39.13`	`Kaelten`	`as is latest.txt`
`17:39.13`	`\|Kev\|`	`Kaelten: no, the whitespace has changed`
`17:39.15`	`Tornhoof`	`what about moo?`
`17:39.25`	`\|Kev\|`	`where before it was a single line per mod, it's now not`
`17:39.28`	`Kaelten`	`\|Kev\|: on what file?`
`17:39.33`	`\|Kev\|`	`files.wowace.com`
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`17:39.43`	`Kaelten`	`no I mean what file's whitespace changeD?`
`17:40.06`	`\|Kev\|`	`files.wowace.com :p`
`17:40.13`	`\|Kev\|`	`the index`
`17:40.16`	`nevcairiel`	`i think he means the webpage`
`17:40.18`	`Kaelten`	`talking about the html?`
`17:40.23`	`\|Kev\|`	`yes`
`17:40.24`	`Kaelten`	`why was someone parsing the html?`
`17:40.37`	`durcyn`	`changelogs`
`17:40.45`	`Kaelten`	`ahuba?`
`17:40.47`	`maia`	`Kaelten: no idea what MacAceUpdater was doing exactly, but it stopped working today.`
`17:40.49`	`\|Kev\|`	`because there isn't a neater way of doing that that they knew at the time`
`17:40.58`	`Kaelten`	`hrm`
`17:41.02`	`\|Kev\|`	`I still don't, actually`
`17:41.16`	`Kaelten`	`well of all the things to fix that'd be the absolute hardest because it uses the xml prety printer stuff`
`17:41.32`	`Kaelten`	`so I don't actually have direct control of that`
`17:41.35`	`\|Kev\|`	`if you dump the same thing out in a nice xml format I'll start using that :)`
`17:41.37`	`Kaelten`	`er of the whitespace rather`
`17:41.58`	`\|Kev\|`	`it's only whitespace sensitive because it's using a custom parser rather than a whitespace one because it's html`
`17:42.02`	`Kaelten`	`$("#content").wrap("<div></div>").parent().empty()`
`17:42.05`	`nevcairiel`	`what does the webpage offer, thats not in descript.ion and the latest.txt?`
`17:42.05`	`Kaelten`	`er wrong paste`
`17:42.08`	`Kemayo`	`Kaelten: descript.ion doesn't include latest version, and latest.txt involves a massive number of extra connections.`
`17:42.15`	`Kaelten`	`http://files.wowace.com/latest.xml`
`17:42.20`	`Kaelten`	`well there is the solution`
`17:42.23`	`NeoTron`	`I had to go back to using Baggins in one-bag setup. ArkInventory suffers too much from "Gear swap lag" or simply "put an item in the bag" lag`
`17:42.44`	`Kemayo`	`Hey, cool, hadn't seen that.`
`17:42.48`	`Kaelten`	`:)`
`17:43.05`	`\|Kev\|`	`Kaelten: that looks sufficient, ta`
`17:43.07`	`Kaelten`	`and the html file is subject to a lot more updating as I add in more info and whatnot`
`17:43.32`	`Kaelten`	`in a month or two I'm going to be removing descript.ion and latest.txt files all togather.`
`17:43.42`	`\|Kev\|`	`yeah, html parsing is ugly, but I didn't know of the xml at the time`
`17:43.45`	`FISKER_Q`	`And send me the script omg`
`17:43.49`	`\|Kev\|`	`actually, I suspect you've only recently added it :)`
`17:43.57`	`Saint-N`	`i'd love readme's in the files so it explains what the hell they do, without reading code...if thier wiki entry isnt entered`
`17:43.59`	`nevcairiel`	`whats with that addons which have a version like r27847.1.`
`17:44.00`	`Kaelten`	`ya it got added last night :)`
`17:44.00`	`nevcairiel`	`?`
`17:44.12`	`maia`	`kaelten, ideally the latest.xml would also add the changelog of the latest revision btw.`
`17:44.15`	`Kaelten`	`nevcairiel: represents a library update`
`17:44.18`	`nevcairiel`	`ah oki`
`17:44.19`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`17:44.29`	`Kaelten`	`another minor update`
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`17:44.33`	`\|Kev\|`	`maia: that's probably not interesting in itself`
`17:44.37`	`Kaelten`	`prevents from having to rezip every file`
`17:44.54`	`NeoTron`	`\|Kev\|: it could be, you never know`
`17:44.55`	`\|Kev\|`	`because that doesn't tell you what's changed between the arbitrary version someone cares about, and latest`
`17:45.04`	`NeoTron`	`that on the other hand is true`
`17:45.10`	`Kaelten`	`maia: I might be able to add that`
`17:45.12`	`maia`	`well, I'd like to see in wau/mau what has changed, and if I really want to update that specific addon`
`17:45.17`	`\|Kev\|`	`right`
`17:45.21`	`\|Kev\|`	`what you propose doesn't do that :)`
`17:45.35`	`\|Kev\|`	`you need the full changelog for that, back to the version you have installed`
`17:45.38`	`nevcairiel`	`if i commit three fixes, and the latest is "updated zhCN"`
`17:45.43`	`nevcairiel`	`you prolly dont want to update`
`17:45.49`	`\|Kev\|`	`which will be added to mau at some point`
`17:45.55`	`maia`	`well, yeah.`
`17:46.03`	`cncfanatics`	`g'morning all :)`
`17:46.19`	`\|Kev\|`	`maia: are you running the latest mau?`
`17:46.20`	`Kaelten`	`\|Kev\|: is mau your project?`
`17:46.28`	`\|Kev\|`	`Kaelten: affirmative`
`17:46.33`	`maia`	`kev, 0.3 from about 2-3 weeks ago.`
`17:46.36`	`\|Kev\|`	`cool`
`17:46.50`	`\|Kev\|`	`that's got a self-updater, so I'll fix it tomorrow and you should have a note telling you to upgrade :)`
`17:46.53`	`maia`	`...which basically is 0.2 with new icons.`
`17:47.03`	`\|Kev\|`	`not quite true, but I'll let it lie :)`
`17:47.17`	`maia`	`;)`
`17:47.30`	`\|Kev\|`	`you're forgetting the .dmg ;)`
`17:47.37`	`maia`	`haha`
`17:47.42`	`Ordog`	`uhm Kealten? what means a suddenly created waypoint pointing to 24y behind me (always) stating "you're a silly sausage aren't you?"`
`17:47.53`	`Ordog`	`im kind of scared ^^`
`17:48.01`	`\|Kev\|`	`Kaelten: why do you ask?`
`17:48.02`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`17:48.05`	`Kaelten`	`hrm, means you're hungry`
`17:48.08`	`maia`	`Ordog: a guildie is making fun of you`
`17:48.11`	`Kaelten`	`\|Kev\|: was just curious :)`
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`17:48.28`	`nevcairiel`	`thats why i dont run noteshare`
`17:48.45`	`maia`	`nevcairiel: well, you'll have to run noteshare to disable sharing.`
`17:48.45`	`\|Kev\|`	`Kaelten: I didn't know obj-c or cocoa, so I spent three evenings over my Christmas holiday coding up mau to learn them :)`
`17:49.00`	`nevcairiel`	`carto is stupid`
`17:49.09`	`nevcairiel`	`i have to run an addon to disable a function ? :P`
`17:49.22`	`maia`	`at least until like 2 days ago`
`17:49.23`	`Kaelten`	`? :S`
`17:49.27`	`maia`	`its still a mess imho.`
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`17:50.01`	`nevcairiel`	`i still dont see the point why ckk doesnt want the guild position spammer to be toggleable on/off`
`17:50.29`	`deltron`	`riding crop doesn't stack with carrot etc :(`
`17:50.33`	`nevcairiel`	`i hacked my local version now, if i turn off the addon, it turns of the spammer`
`17:50.33`	`Kaelten`	`I just want a damned /waypoint command`
`17:50.35`	`Kaelten`	`do we have one?`
`17:50.35`	`maia`	`ckk is a control freak I guess`
`17:50.40`	`sylvanaar`	`yes`
`17:50.43`	`sylvanaar`	`dont you?`
`17:50.49`	`Kaelten`	`no....`
`17:50.50`	`Kaelten`	`:(`
`17:50.58`	`sylvanaar`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:51.01`	`maia`	`sylvanaar: /way was defunct for a few days`
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`17:51.04`	`nevcairiel`	`update then :D`
`17:51.04`	`deltron`	`there was a /waypoint command as of 2 days ago`
`17:51.08`	`Elkano`	`/tway x y ?`
`17:51.08`	`nevcairiel`	`its working fine now`
`17:51.14`	`maia`	`and /tloc was nonexistant as of yesterday`
`17:51.17`	`sylvanaar`	`o`
`17:51.18`	`nevcairiel`	`tway is gone`
`17:51.23`	`nevcairiel`	`only /way and /waypoint`
`17:51.48`	`Kaelten`	`anything other than the standard package needed?`
`17:52.14`	`nevcairiel`	`no`
`17:52.26`	`Elkano`	`btw: TrainerFu still has problems with storing some trainers`
`17:52.40`	`sylvanaar`	`fyi - there is Package_Cartographer - that intalls everything`
`17:52.53`	`sylvanaar`	`i think it needs updating`
`17:52.55`	`maia`	`so there's no temp waypoint anymore?`
`17:52.55`	`Elkano`	`eg Fishing Trainer on Azurmist or Skinning trainer in Shatrath`
`17:53.09`	`maia`	`or is it something like /way 12,34 temp ?`
`17:53.28`	`nevcairiel`	`i think /way x,y`
`17:53.31`	`nevcairiel`	`is temporary`
`17:53.40`	`nevcairiel`	`if you define a name, it stays`
`17:53.46`	`maia`	`yeah :(`
`17:54.05`	`maia`	`so if you're on the way back to a quest giver, you cant easily get rid of the waypoint`
`17:54.14`	`maia`	`other than /way wrfdugwadxbhu`
`17:55.00`	`maia`	`I'd just like to have waypoints auto-hide if you're in a 20yrd range for more than 10 seconds`
`17:55.19`	`nevcairiel`	`there is an option now to disable note reception in Cartographer_Notes .. guess i can turn it off :)`
`17:55.22`	`sylvanaar`	`can someone help me update Package_Cartographer?`
`17:55.27`	`Saint-N`	`hrm freespire is still pretty neat`
`17:55.33`	`Saint-N`	`it behaves wierdly at times`
`17:55.56`	`Saint-N`	`but its not bad for a find all self configure lets make it friendly so windows people will use it linux install`
`17:57.10`	`Kaelten`	`its bad but the xml feed looks really good in IE7`
`17:57.18`	`Kaelten`	`searchable sortable and filters`
`17:57.26`	`Kaelten`	`along with multiple links`
`17:57.34`	`Saint-N`	`ie7 kaes me think of opera in the early days`
`17:57.39`	`Saint-N`	`makes`
`17:57.59`	`cncfanatics`	`ie7 sucks ...`
`17:58.04`	`cncfanatics`	`rather use lynx`
`17:58.10`	`Saint-N`	`hehe yeah`
`17:58.16`	`Saint-N`	`ff2.0 isnt much better`
`17:58.25`	`Saint-N`	`they broke a lot of the shit i liked in 1.5`
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`17:58.39`	`haste`	`like?`
`17:59.15`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r27854 10cgProfiler/cgProfiler.toc:`
`17:59.15`	`CIA-17`	`cgProfiler -`
`17:59.15`	`CIA-17`	`-Fixed typo in the TOC file`
`17:59.31`	`Saint-N`	`download associations on leech by default. a couple of my addons, the fact that it doesnt fully remove itself so it makes reinstalling to fix upgrade bugs a pain in the ass`
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`17:59.58`	`Saint-N`	`like i'd rather it opened rar files without saving them unless i pick "save to disk"`
`18:00.02`	`Saint-N`	`that kind of stuff`
`18:00.13`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r27855 10cgProfiler/cgProfiler.toc:`
`18:00.13`	`CIA-17`	`cgProfiler -`
`18:00.13`	`CIA-17`	`- fixing another typo`
`18:00.48`	`Saint-N`	`i love pandora`
`18:00.54`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r27856 10Package_Cartographer/ (Cartographer_CorpseWay/ Talismonger-3.0/ filelist.wau): Package_Cartographer: Added _CorpseWay, removed Talismonger-3.0`
`18:00.54`	`copland`	`ok I used wowaceupdater and now what ever addon that used the /tloc command is no longer there or removed the function anyone knwo what happended there di the command just get renamed`
`18:01.16`	`cncfanatics`	`wau messed with addons not on wowace I think`
`18:01.38`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r27857 10Package_Cartographer/filelist.wau: Package_Cartographer: Removed talismonger from filelist.wau`
`18:02.20`	`Barbanus`	`haha, so I'm installing an error notification plugin into my RoR app, so I on purpose create an error ... except .. I made a bug creating the error .. so it didnt actually create an error ....`
`18:03.07`	`copland`	`cncfanatics: my backup direcit is idental ot my new directory and my non wowace plugins are running just fine like healbot etc`
`18:03.14`	`sbi`	`dislexia, isn't it?`
`18:03.33`	`copland`	`figure what ever map addon was minicing thottbots /tloc function had updated and either changed the command or removed the functionality`
`18:03.46`	`copland`	`hoping it just a renaming of the command`
`18:03.48`	`cncfanatics`	`copland, u sure its active then ? :p`
`18:04.05`	`copland`	`I dont see any disabled plugins`
`18:04.42`	`NeoTron`	`Cartographer has a /tloc`
`18:04.56`	`NeoTron`	`and it still works - used as a temporary waypoint essentially`
`18:05.42`	`nevcairiel`	`you have to use /way now`
`18:05.46`	`nevcairiel`	`for temp waypoints`
`18:05.49`	`nevcairiel`	`it was renamed`
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`18:06.32`	`copland`	`now did cartopgrapher put the little markers on the map`
`18:06.35`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i thought they had many aliases for the same thing`
`18:06.37`	`copland`	`or was that another addon`
`18:06.39`	`sylvanaar`	`Kaelten: look at this http://files.wowace.com/Skinner/no-ext/`
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`18:07.59`	`Kaelten`	`ok?`
`18:08.30`	`NeoTron`	`nevcairiel: so that changed since.. yesterday?`
`18:08.39`	`sylvanaar`	`have you gotten any reports of no-ext's having externals?`
`18:08.47`	`NeoTron`	`and if so, why? /tloc is a reasonble alias`
`18:08.48`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27858 10BigWigs/Outland/Doomwalker.lua: BigWigs: Doomwalker: Added enrage warning, still need the actual emote for the actual enrage.`
`18:08.50`	`Kaelten`	`nope`
`18:08.56`	`sylvanaar`	`Kaelten the latest skinners both have externals`
`18:09.03`	`NeoTron`	`since the syntax/functionality is the same`
`18:09.26`	`Kaelten`	`looks like its happening though :S`
`18:09.32`	`Kaelten`	`I'll dig`
`18:11.18`	`sylvanaar`	`Kaelten yeah, no change seeems related`
`18:11.41`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hehe KCI (Ace2) stores vendor values in a funky way :-)`
`18:14.20`	xyu`	`hmm is ECB bar gone?`
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`18:14.33`	xyu`	`i dont seem to see it on the wau list`
`18:14.33`	`neenee`	`you want oCB from fuxsake.net`
`18:14.48`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r27859 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Netherspite.lua: BigWigs: Added Netherspite module by Arelenda needs testing.`
`18:14.58`	`kenlyric\|work`	`no, eCB actually was update very recently and has some nice new features, included focus casting.`
`18:15.05`	`kenlyric\|work`	`or so I hear.`
`18:15.12`	`neenee`	`oh.`
`18:15.14`	xyu`	`is it still ace?`
`18:16.18`	Funkeh`	`is there something wrong with cart? can't seem to dowload it :s`
`18:16.30`	`sbi`	`eCB?`
`18:16.37`	`sbi`	`enemy castbar?`
`18:16.39`	xyu`	`yea`
`18:16.49`	xyu`	`i dont konw if its enemy cast bar but it gave me`
`18:16.51`	xyu`	`a casting bar`
`18:16.54`	xyu`	`mirror bar`
`18:17.01`	`sbi`	`oh`
`18:17.01`	xyu`	`and yes enemy casting bar`
`18:17.01`	`neenee`	`That's not enemy castbar then`
`18:17.05`	`neenee`	`oh.`
`18:17.07`	`neenee`	`Ah well.`
`18:17.11`	`sbi`	`you meant oCB ?`
`18:17.25`	`neenee`	`I thought he did, but then kenlyric\|work suggested that it was something else`
`18:17.32`	xyu`	`no idea, all i know is my command was /ecb :P`
`18:17.37`	xyu`	`to open the options`
`18:17.39`	`sbi`	`dunno then :)`
`18:17.44`	`durcyn`	`you're thinkgin perhaps of eCastingBar?`
`18:17.44`	`Kaelten`	`Nickenyfiken: got a problemw ith the way it stores it :)?`
`18:17.47`	`kenlyric\|work`	`ecb had enemy casting bars before ocb did :)`
`18:17.51`	xyu`	`pretty sure it was eCastingBar`
`18:17.51`	xyu`	`yes`
`18:17.54`	`kenlyric\|work`	`hence the name :)`
`18:18.03`	`neenee`	`I knew an eCastingBar, but that wasn't Ace`
`18:18.11`	xyu`	`maybe it isn't`
`18:18.11`	xyu`	`hm`
`18:18.14`	`durcyn`	`eCastingBar is not an ace project, but it Doesn't Suck (tm)`
`18:18.15`	`kenlyric\|work`	`nobody ever said it was.`
`18:18.22`	xyu`	`i did`
`18:18.25`	`durcyn`	`haste wrote a replacement called otravi_castingbar, aka oCB`
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`18:18.28`	`cncfanatics`	`Ace ain't a holy grail or anything -.-`
`18:18.28`	`neenee`	`Google and you'll find http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4268`
`18:18.32`	`kenlyric\|work`	`ah... I didn't really pay attention :)`
`18:18.32`	`neenee`	And indeed. xyu` did.
`18:18.37`	`cncfanatics`	`if I find a good addon I use it, ace or not lol`
`18:18.41`	`sbi`	`nature's enemycastbar isn't ace afaik`
`18:18.42`	`cncfanatics`	`its just good that lots of good addons are ace :p`
`18:18.56`	`sbi`	`Antagonist btw is a good ace addon doing the same thing :p`
`18:18.58`	`kenlyric\|work`	`shattrath city is now my home. Woot!`
`18:19.06`	`neenee`	`:)`
`18:19.07`	xyu`	`antagonist doesn't have my own casting bar`
`18:19.14`	`Saint-N`	`yay`
`18:19.31`	`kenlyric\|work`	`ok, now I'm completely bored until I start raiding.`
`18:19.34`	`durcyn`	xyu`: if you're looking for something from wowace.com/files, then take a gander at CBRipoff, it's basically a fork of oCB
`18:19.34`	`Saint-N`	`i wish sct was a bit more accurate`
`18:19.56`	`Saint-N`	`pick the message frame and it seems that the damage andhealing scrolls are never where the actual message box is`
`18:20.07`	xyu`	`what is oCB?`
`18:20.15`	`Saint-N`	`onscreen casting bar`
`18:20.19`	`Saint-N`	`or something`
`18:20.24`	`neenee`	`otravi Casting Bar`
`18:20.24`	`robjac`	`otraviCastingBar`
`18:20.25`	`cncfanatics`	`otrava casting bar ..`
`18:20.34`	`neenee`	`get it from fuxsake.net, as I mentioned before`
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`18:20.39`	`Saint-N`	`yay the irc rule of correction ;)`
`18:21.03`	`binder`	`eye of the storm breaks corpseway`
`18:21.06`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Kaelten: Hehe no. Just curious why? Is it more effective compared to ["itemlink"] = sellprice or something?`
`18:21.44`	`Saint-N`	`oh i found a neat addon the other day`
`18:21.49`	`Saint-N`	`ping direction`
`18:21.59`	`Saint-N`	`shows little arros on the screen for where pings are coming from`
`18:22.11`	xyu`	`yeah what's that called?`
`18:22.14`	xyu`	`i heard about that too`
`18:22.17`	xyu`	`was hoping it was created`
`18:22.28`	`axxo`	`o`
`18:22.32`	`axxo`	`that would be imba`
`18:22.41`	xyu`	`it'd be great in pvp`
`18:22.54`	`Saint-N`	`pingdirection is its actual name`
`18:23.10`	`copland`	`ok the /way command was not what I was looking for there was a addon that made map notes when you typed in /tloc <cords>`
`18:23.17`	`neenee`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6715-PingDirection.html`
`18:23.49`	`copland`	`so I am not quite sure what to do`
`18:24.00`	xyu`	`that's old thot coords isn't it? i remember doing /tloc <x,x> wayyyyy back in 1.0 days`
`18:24.22`	xyu`	`it used to even run you there. boy those were the days :P`
`18:24.41`	`Saint-N`	`hehe i loved that`
`18:24.46`	`Saint-N`	`the autopather`
`18:25.05`	`neenee`	`I liked the addon which automagically walked me off a ship when it had docked`
`18:25.09`	`Saint-N`	`course that was back in the day you could bind spells and actions to yer direction keys without screing up the directions`
`18:25.13`	`copland`	`it was not the thottbot addon as i dont have that installed`
`18:25.24`	`Saint-N`	`healer was my fav pvp addon`
`18:25.34`	`Saint-N`	`it would shield renew and inner fire if i ran around`
`18:25.36`	xyu`	`you didn't need it copland. did you ever have cosmos installed?`
`18:25.41`	`copland`	`but the command /tloc was the thottbot addon command.... and someone used it as a alias for something else`
`18:25.44`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Kaelten: BTW the tooltip text "Recent avarage price:" gets overlapped by the value in the KCI tooltip. I can get you a screenie if you want`
`18:25.45`	xyu`	`because cosmos came w/ the thott shit`
`18:25.52`	`copland`	`xyu no I have not`
`18:26.12`	`copland`	`this did not handle like the thottbot ui`
`18:26.22`	`copland`	`it made mapnotes`
`18:26.46`	xyu`	`well all i know is it was the original mapnotes addon along w/ something else. i haven't used /tloc since like 1.0 days tho like i said.`
`18:26.49`	xyu`	`i didn't know it was still around`
`18:26.55`	`NeoTron`	`the addons I know that cna do that is cartographer and mapnotes`
`18:27.08`	`copland`	`I have cartographer`
`18:27.29`	`NeoTron`	`Cartographer should make a temporary map note + waypoint from that command`
`18:27.35`	`NeoTron`	`i.e /tloc x,y`
`18:27.44`	`copland`	`If i dump the new cartographer and replace it with the old it works`
`18:28.07`	`copland`	`and it makes a perm map note`
`18:28.25`	`NeoTron`	`the version I last used, which is like yestereday or a day before, makes a temp note`
`18:28.29`	`copland`	`now carto does not respsond to /tloc any more an /way is just temp`
`18:28.29`	`Saint-N`	`man i love vista/action pack`
`18:28.41`	`NeoTron`	`when you arrive at the spot the note disappears (but if you don't get there I'm not sure what happens)`
`18:28.46`	`ckknight`	`Cartographer should still respond to /tloc`
`18:29.01`	`copland`	`no it wont respond to /tloc`
`18:29.03`	`ckknight`	`just do the same as /way or so`
`18:29.06`	`ckknight`	`it should.`
`18:29.07`	`NeoTron`	`and btw for perm notes use /note`
`18:29.15`	`Saint-N`	`they gave me a reg code that when i try to activate it says its already in use, and the "other" code they were gonna give as a replacement is the one i already had so now on my first install of vista business i get to talk to the activation dept.`
`18:29.17`	`NeoTron`	`i.e /note x,y This is a note`
`18:29.27`	xyu`	`is there a list of carto commands?`
`18:29.31`	xyu`	`on the wiki`
`18:29.37`	xyu`	`or anywhere :)`
`18:30.17`	`copland`	`NeoTron: thans /note is what i was looking for`
`18:30.26`	`ckknight`	xyu`: I inform the user in the dewdrop, but that's not so for the waypoints
`18:31.02`	`NeoTron`	xyu`: get dewdrop commander or whatever it's called. gives you a menu with all addon slash commands
`18:31.21`	xyu`	`NeoTron: ok, i'll check`
`18:31.36`	`neenee`	`DeuceCommander`
`18:31.56`	`NeoTron`	`what neenee said`
`18:32.16`	`neenee`	`:)`
`18:32.16`	xyu`	`~_^`
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`18:36.22`	`Kaelten`	`somebody got someting to commit?`
`18:37.10`	`sbi`	`need more epix :(`
`18:38.14`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r27860 10cgProfiler/cgProfiler.lua:`
`18:38.14`	`CIA-17`	`cgProfiler -`
`18:38.14`	`CIA-17`	`-Dummy commit`
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`18:42.03`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27861 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua:`
`18:42.03`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Karazhan/Attumen:`
`18:42.03`	`CIA-17`	`- deDE, thanks Deli`
`18:43.04`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27862 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Curator.lua:`
`18:43.04`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Karazhan/Curator:`
`18:43.04`	`CIA-17`	`- deDE, thanks Lunalucis`
`18:44.56`	`ckknight`	`well, I figured out a general idea of how to make Parser-3.0`
`18:45.06`	Funkeh`	`3.0 ?`
`18:45.11`	Funkeh`	`how long have i been away lol`
`18:45.11`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`18:45.18`	`ckknight`	Funkeh`: it's just thoughts.
`18:45.23`	`ckknight`	`2.0 never came to fruition`
`18:45.24`	Funkeh`	`cool :)`
`18:45.49`	`ckknight`	`basically, you have Parser30:Register(someTable, func)`
`18:46.07`	`ckknight`	`the someTable is a chunk of data that the final result must match`
`18:46.29`	`ckknight`	`so if you do Parser30:Register({ source = "self" }, func)`
`18:46.47`	`ckknight`	`then all spells/attacks coming from the player will be passed to func`
`18:47.21`	`ckknight`	`and you'd be able to add in other stuff, like crit, gradual, heal, etc.`
`18:47.59`	`ckknight`	`so it handles all events from that, and only calls func when it matches what's registered`
`18:49.04`	`ckknight`	`anyone have any thoughts?`
`18:50.15`	`ckknight`	`I figure it's the most flexible, since you'd be able to capture exactly what you wanted (e.g. Renew from the player) without having to parse the results yourself anyway`
`18:51.07`	`vhaarr`	`Parser-1.1 is not that different.`
`18:52.15`	`Kaelten`	`I need someone to upload something please`
`18:52.24`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr: I don't see anything that'd allow you to do something like that. For Parser-1.1, you seem to register with a certain game event`
`18:53.05`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: yeah, but those events are divided by self, party, friendly and hostile.`
`18:54.01`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r27863 10cgProfiler/cgProfiler.lua:`
`18:54.01`	`CIA-17`	`cgProfiler -`
`18:54.01`	`CIA-17`	`-Another Dummy commit`
`18:54.51`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: I've seen some recent commits to Parser-2.0 by rophy`
`18:55.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`where did corpseway go?`
`18:55.41`	`ckknight`	`hrm, I haven't...`
`18:57.19`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: http://wowace.com/trac/log/branches/ParserLib/Rophy/Parser-2.0?rev=27730 - 2 days ago`
`18:57.50`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`18:58.01`	`Kaelten`	`ok the externals in the no externals has been fixed`
`18:58.10`	`ckknight`	`well, I'm gonna work on 3.0, if he has deep-seated issues, then I'll be happy to name it something else`
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`19:01.02`	`Nickenyfiken`	`~wau`
`19:01.04`	`purl`	`i guess wau is WowAceUpdate, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily.`
`19:01.23`	`NeoTron`	`:se noai`
`19:01.23`	`NeoTron`	`a:se ai`
`19:01.29`	`NeoTron`	`rawr`
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`19:03.29`	`Thorgard`	`NeoTron, right-o!`
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`19:04.03`	`TheKarn`	`sylvanaar, you around?`
`19:04.05`	`Kaelten`	`Nickenyfiken: whats funky about my data storage! huh! huh! :P`
`19:04.12`	`sylvanaar`	`yes`
`19:04.34`	`TheKarn`	`you spotted http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4463.0 ? thought it would be nice as a module in prat`
`19:04.41`	`TheKarn`	`but i might behind on my mods`
`19:05.38`	`sylvanaar`	`it would be cool, but frame modifications have gotten me burned in the past`
`19:05.55`	`TheKarn`	`did you not do the chatbuttons modification?`
`19:06.03`	`sylvanaar`	`case in point`
`19:06.05`	`TheKarn`	`ah`
`19:06.06`	`TheKarn`	`lol`
`19:06.38`	`TheKarn`	`ah well i might look into it if i get a chance`
`19:06.42`	`evl`	Is Hemlock dead`:(
`19:06.46`	`TheKarn`	`still not lvl 70 yet :P`
`19:06.47`	`sylvanaar`	`that module had some memory issues - so i got "prat causes my increasing rate... etc"`
`19:06.58`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Hemlock should still be kicking - why?`
`19:07.02`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten 07Ace2 * r27864 10KC_Items/KC_Items/ (AuctionSpy/AuctionSpy.lua KC_Items.lua): KC_Items (Ace 2) - a few more lines on the tooltip`
`19:07.13`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I haven't added anesthetic poison, I think, but that's just a matter of uncommenting some code.`
`19:08.13`	`sylvanaar`	`TheKarn module systems are pointless if the core gets blamed for failings in the modules`
`19:09.28`	`TheKarn`	`true. i suppose theres no need to tie it into prat`
`19:11.25`	`axxo`	`sylvanaar: i'll give you 5 euro for whonote module in prat`
`19:11.49`	`TheKarn`	`unless ofc i want all the bitching to be sent to prat's devs :P`
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`19:15.47`	`FISKER_Q`	`purl, forget wau`
`19:16.02`	`FISKER_Q`	`purl, no wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily.`
`19:16.04`	`purl`	`FISKER_Q: okay`
`19:16.07`	`FISKER_Q`	`~wau`
`19:16.09`	`purl`	`hmm... wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily.`
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`19:19.52`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27865 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: Added :DelayedMessage.`
`19:20.35`	`sylvanaar`	`axxo whats a whonote?`
`19:21.11`	`NeoTron`	`btw the "guild position" feature in cart is cool. just need to get more guildies using it`
`19:21.28`	`NeoTron`	`it's nice to pop up the map and see if someone is nearby in case you needed help with something`
`19:21.47`	`tig`	`BigWigs\LoadOnDemand.lua:140: Modules either need to have a direct link to the core translation table or X-BigWigs-Menu set. Any ideas?`
`19:22.51`	`neenee`	`sylvanaar: It's a note which you see when you do /who - the public note, set by guild members`
`19:22.55`	`axxo`	`sylvanaar: shows rank/public note/officer note when you /who someone`
`19:23.01`	xyu`	`so what's that addon named that shows your pings with little arrows?`
`19:23.03`	xyu`	`i missed the name`
`19:23.22`	`neenee`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6715-PingDirection.html`
`19:23.34`	xyu`	`thanks my mirc buffer is quite small atm.`
`19:23.39`	xyu`	`forgot to reset it after format`
`19:24.49`	`CIA-17`	`03saroz * r27866 10sRaidFrames/ (4 files): sRaidFrames: Add option to ignore heals originating from yourself`
`19:25.39`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27867 10BigWigs/Outland/Doomwalker.lua: BigWigs: Doomwalker: Added Overrun, possibly wrong timer.`
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`19:41.43`	`Nickenyfiken`	`wrote a ColaLight to KCI vendor value converter and i think it may not work so well hehe. 4 kb ColaLight SV to 380 kb KCI SV :-P`
`19:41.46`	`CIA-17`	`03xuerian * r27868 10XLootGroup/XLootGroup.lua: XLootGroup: Wah-oops. Removed unnecessary assert()'s.`
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`19:49.29`	`vhaarr`	`tig: Using SVN or WAU?`
`19:49.46`	`tig`	`wau`
`19:49.50`	`Arilaw`	`Did WAU get fixed?`
`19:49.56`	`Arilaw`	`I'm still at work and can't test it. :(`
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`19:51.30`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27869 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ShadeOfAran.lua:`
`19:51.31`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Karazhan/ShadeOfAran:`
`19:51.31`	`CIA-17`	`- removed 'hint'`
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`19:52.12`	`CIA-17`	`03durcyn * r27870 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/Cooldown.lua: FuBar_tcgTradeskills: Change Arcanite transmute to new 24 hour timer.`
`19:52.18`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27871 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: BigWigs: LoadOnDemand: Better error messages.`
`19:52.33`	`NeoTron`	`lol. Some dimwit is whining about how overpowered a priest is that puts down light well and then switches to shadow form, essentially getting 5x1k heals in shadow form`
`19:52.42`	`vhaarr`	`tig: Update when that hits the ZIPs and give me the error you get then.`
`19:53.28`	`NeoTron`	`I guess next people will complain that priests use powerinfuse before putting down the lightwell and switching to shadow form`
`19:54.28`	`Kaelten`	`what broke with with wau?`
`19:54.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`Kaelten: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63167579&postId=753260341&sid=1#136 if you wanted to chime in on the subject`
`19:58.03`	`tig`	`vhaarr: ok`
`20:00.19`	`Arilaw`	`Kaelten: From earlier, "getting changelog-addonname-revision, and the contents are xml"`
`20:00.23`	`Arilaw`	`Apparently broke WAU?`
`20:00.36`	`Arilaw`	`I dunno, I haven't tested.`
`20:02.20`	`lhunath`	`is there an alternative to AutoBar; one that does not cause horrid lag spikes?`
`20:02.42`	`NeoTron`	`lhunath: autobar casues horrid lag spikes?`
`20:03.18`	`NeoTron`	`how so? (I use it and can't recall such an issue)`
`20:03.18`	`Kaelten`	`not broke, just can't view changelogs`
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`20:06.34`	`lhunath`	`neotron: on loot & enter/exit combat - and horrid is defined by me as 0.5s screen freezes`
`20:06.53`	`NeoTron`	`hrm`
`20:06.59`	`NeoTron`	`can't say I've really noticed that`
`20:07.04`	`vhaarr`	`NeoTron: It depends on your computer and addon setup.`
`20:07.08`	`vhaarr`	`But yeah, AutoBar does that.`
`20:07.27`	`NeoTron`	`assume it's when it's recalculating the status`
`20:07.40`	`lhunath`	`is that something that can be helped? Or will it always do that because of how it works?`
`20:08.15`	`vhaarr`	`It can be helped.`
`20:08.31`	`vhaarr`	`Just needs a little redesign.`
`20:09.09`	`tig`	`vhaarr: BigWigs\LoadOnDemand.lua:140: BigWigs_Karazhan either need to have a direct link to the core translation table or X-BigWigs-Menu set.`
`20:09.23`	`tig`	`vhaarr: deDE client btw`
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`20:16.42`	`vhaarr`	`tig: Yeah, so we need the Karazhan deDE translation.`
`20:16.42`	`vhaarr`	`tig: Which is?`
`20:16.54`	`tig`	`hmm, I am at lvl 64 ;)`
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`20:17.41`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27872 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Add ["Karazhan"] = "Karazhan" for all translations missing it.`
`20:18.53`	`binder`	`hmm`
`20:18.54`	`Apep`	`hi`
`20:19.01`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r27873 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: And fix up Outlands/Azeroth.`
`20:19.02`	`neenee`	`Hello`
`20:19.07`	`vhaarr`	`tig: Should work after next update, then.`
`20:19.11`	`binder`	`can you add more columns to bartender, or are you capped per bar?`
`20:19.15`	`Apep`	`i have NO previous experience with programming`
`20:19.20`	`Apep`	`mods or nothing`
`20:19.31`	`Apep`	`but i have a idea for a small thingy id like myself`
`20:19.43`	`Apep`	`so could some1 point me to some good sites/guides`
`20:19.43`	`tig`	`vhaarr: thanks, i am going to do transcripts when I visit karazhan`
`20:19.45`	`tig`	`;)`
`20:19.49`	`vhaarr`	`tig: hehe`
`20:19.49`	`Apep`	`where i can start learning`
`20:20.13`	`Apep`	`its reaaaally simple what i wanna do`
`20:20.14`	`Apep`	`^^`
`20:20.44`	`vhaarr`	`Apep: http://wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon`
`20:20.48`	`Daemona`	`Apep -> http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua`
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`20:21.03`	`Apep`	`great thanks =)`
`20:21.04`	`snirks`	`whats the API for setting raid target symbols? (moon star square etc)`
`20:21.08`	`snirks`	`i cannot find it on wowwiki`
`20:21.26`	`snirks`	`im making a macro that sets a symbol, but if symbol already exists then it doesnt set it`
`20:22.05`	`snirks`	`im really desperate :/`
`20:23.10`	`Silverstorm`	`snirks, I don't know the API commands, but I have all my symbols keybound and I just go down the line, that way I never re-use`
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`20:23.42`	`Apep`	`omhg`
`20:23.52`	`Apep`	`small easy applet or not`
`20:23.53`	`snirks`	`Silverstorm: could you paste somewhere?`
`20:23.57`	`snirks`	`pastebin`
`20:24.03`	`Apep`	`the amount of stuff i need to learn was huge ^^`
`20:24.16`	`SlackerJer`	`snirks: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetRaidTarget`
`20:24.21`	`snirks`	`SlackerJer: i love you`
`20:24.44`	`Silverstorm`	`snirks, Blizz has keybindings available in their default menu, I just use those`
`20:25.06`	`snirks`	`can i tie those keybindings to a custom bar?`
`20:26.22`	`Silverstorm`	`I dunno...I'd rather not click them, so I haven't tried`
`20:26.28`	`Apep`	`any1 here thats >average good with programming in ace2 that wanna answer me some fast questions in a private ?`
`20:26.38`	`Xuerian`	`o_0`
`20:26.57`	`Xuerian`	`you'd be better off asking the room in general.`
`20:27.02`	`Apep`	`ok`
`20:27.52`	`Apep`	`i would like a function that brings up a dialogbox where i can enter coords for setting a /tway in cartographer`
`20:27.59`	`Apep`	`hope thats not to fuzzy ><`
`20:28.12`	`Apep`	`so instead of typing /tway xx,yy every time`
`20:28.48`	`Apep`	`i either click a button on my bar or hit a keybind and the dialogbox asking for xx,yy pops up.`
`20:28.55`	`Apep`	`no biggie in function =P`
`20:29.43`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight might be the one to ask on that one`
`20:30.12`	`Apep`	`ye ofc, but this shouldnt be to hard`
`20:30.15`	`ckknight`	`I don't see how that's simpler than a slash command`
`20:30.18`	`ckknight`	`you're typing either way`
`20:30.33`	`Apep`	`well typing /tway 50 times a day`
`20:30.46`	`Apep`	`gets rather annoying`
`20:30.48`	`Apep`	`><`
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`20:31.15`	`Apep`	`but thats me =P`
`20:31.54`	`Xuerian`	`Ten keystrokes vs a click or keystroke, a click or keystroke, two keystrokes, a click or keystroke, two keystrokes, and another click or keystroke?`
`20:32.27`	`Apep`	`lol long sentence`
`20:33.04`	`Apep`	`its actually 13 keystrokes to type /tway xx,yy`
`20:33.21`	`Apep`	`with my little thingy itd be 5`
`20:33.37`	`Xuerian`	`11, counting enter >_>`
`20:34.12`	`Apep`	`13 counting enter and space`
`20:34.16`	`Apep`	`;)`
`20:34.28`	`Apep`	`enter to start and enter to end thats 2`
`20:34.30`	`Apep`	`=0`
`20:34.34`	`Apep`	`lol`
`20:35.05`	`Xuerian`	`(/) 1 (t) 2 (w) 3 (a) 4 ( ) 5 (x) 6 (x) 7 (,) 8 (y) 9 (y) 10 (enter) 11. You don't need enter at the beginning`
`20:35.15`	`Xuerian`	`hm`
`20:35.16`	`Xuerian`	`ok.`
`20:35.18`	`Xuerian`	`12`
`20:35.27`	`Xuerian`	`missed y <.<`
`20:36.38`	`Apep`	`tell me how i dont need enter at the beginning ?`
`20:36.48`	`Apep`	`need to start a editbox dont i ? ^^`
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`20:36.57`	`Xuerian`	`Ever tried pressing / without enter? :p`
`20:36.58`	`Apep`	`anyways`
`20:37.20`	`Apep`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:37.26`	`Apep`	`and thats bound to a spell`
`20:37.28`	`Apep`	`;)`
`20:37.31`	`Apep`	`anyways`
`20:37.35`	`Saroz`	Funkeh`
`20:37.38`	`Xuerian`	`Point taken :P`
`20:37.46`	Funkeh`	`Saroz`
`20:37.50`	`Saroz`	`Curator is wrong`
`20:37.58`	`Saroz`	`:p`
`20:38.04`	`Saroz`	`have you killed him?`
`20:38.21`	Funkeh`	`yes`
`20:38.22`	`Apep`	`but anyone that can tell if its gonna be hard work or not ?`
`20:38.26`	Funkeh`	`how is it wrong`
`20:38.33`	`Saroz`	`ok there is something wrong with the enrage, it not 10% fixed`
`20:38.50`	`Saroz`	`and berzerk seems to be after a fixed number of evocations, not 12 minutes`
`20:38.52`	`Saroz`	`we just did him`
`20:38.56`	`Saroz`	`and he enraged at 15%`
`20:39.01`	`Saroz`	`and we wiped before that`
`20:39.05`	`Saroz`	`and he bezerked at 10 min`
`20:39.18`	`Silverstorm`	`So you just need a basic frame with an edit box, and call a Cart function then, is what it sounds like to me.`
`20:39.30`	Funkeh`	`yeah i noticed something wierd wiht the enrage`
`20:39.41`	`Saroz`	`yea`
`20:39.45`	Funkeh`	`ill check it out after raid, doing aran atm so gonna re-rwite that first`
`20:39.48`	`Saroz`	`didnt run translator on it`
`20:39.52`	`Saroz`	`ehh`
`20:39.54`	`Saroz`	`transscriptor`
`20:40.00`	`Saroz`	`but I'm telling you, it's wrong :)`
`20:40.25`	Funkeh`	`i know, i never said i didn't believe you? :P`
`20:40.38`	`Saroz`	`just saying :p`
`20:41.27`	`Saroz`	`I'm thinking bezerk is based on the number of evocations you do, he bezerks after a fixed number`
`20:41.38`	`Saroz`	`and enrage seems to be percentage based, 15 I'd say`
`20:41.42`	Funkeh`	`msg me it`
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`20:41.46`	Funkeh`	`so i can look back`
`20:42.08`	`Apep`	`Silverstorm: that sounds about correct yeah`
`20:42.35`	`stavmar`	`madmax30`
`20:42.52`	`Apep`	`it basically just opens on a keybind, lets u input xx,yy and puts that into a string and inputs /tway xx,yy to Cart`
`20:42.58`	`Apep`	`if that was clear =P`
`20:43.10`	`Silverstorm`	`I understand :)`
`20:43.44`	`Apep`	`doesent sound like a huge deal does it ? ^^`
`20:43.49`	`Silverstorm`	`wowwiki.com has what you need for the frame and the editBox to show you how to put them together. The lua, you'll have to figure out what the function in Cart is that deals with /tway input`
`20:43.56`	`Apep`	`almost @ helloworld state ><`
`20:44.18`	`Apep`	`ok ill google wowwiki some`
`20:44.19`	`Apep`	`ty`
`20:45.09`	`add\\Leialyn`	`Funkeh?`
`20:48.12`	`Apep`	`seems im back at learning to program first anyways`
`20:48.27`	`Apep`	`if im about to make any sense of whats on wowwiki`
`20:48.58`	Funkeh`	`Leialyn please use my full nick so my client warns me`
`20:49.15`	`add\\Leialyn`	`thehe ;)`
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`20:49.30`	`Industrial`	Funkeh`: please pick an unobscure formed nick :P
`20:49.40`	`add\\Leialyn`	`just wanted to ask if you could update gruul bossmod deDE locals`
`20:49.50`	Funkeh`	`meh indie`
`20:49.52`	Funkeh`	`:p`
`20:49.53`	`Industrial`	`'_^- etc
`20:50.13`	Funkeh`	`gimme a pastey Leialyn`
`20:50.19`	`add\\Leialyn`	`http://ace.pastey.net/6485`
`20:50.30`	Funkeh`	`and its beta, so the locals _will_ change`
`20:50.39`	`stavmar`	`Does anyone know what might cause this? http://ace.pastey.net/6502`
`20:50.54`	`Xuerian`	Funkeh`: Why not just set it to highlight Funkeh, so you can do all the Funkeh variants :P
`20:51.11`	Funkeh`	`i like making people work`
`20:51.26`	`Xuerian`	Funkeh`: It's three keystrokes to me, either way XD
`20:52.13`	Funkeh`	`pfft, i might actually look at the settings after then`
`20:54.11`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r27874 10BigWigs/Outland/Gruul.lua:`
`20:54.12`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Outland/Gruul:`
`20:54.12`	`CIA-17`	`- deDE, thanks to Leialyn`
`20:54.27`	`add\\Leialyn`	`ty ^^`
`20:55.02`	`Elkano`	`we should drop support for deDE and force all players to use enGB instead ;)`
`20:55.30`	`Apep`	`where is "frontpage of wow addons" ^^`
`20:55.51`	`Xuerian`	`...`
`20:55.57`	`Elkano`	`check wowi`
`20:56.07`	`Industrial`	`Elkano: word.`
`20:56.14`	`Industrial`	`you lazy germans :D`
`20:56.21`	`Apep`	`its a joke dude`
`20:56.21`	`Elkano`	`it's featured there`
`20:56.29`	`Apep`	`and im not german ><`
`20:56.35`	`Xuerian`	`lol.`
`20:56.43`	`chutwig`	`swedish is far worse`
`20:56.51`	`Industrial`	`bork bork bork!`
`20:56.56`	`Elkano`	`id, it's not because we're lazy but what deDE bacame over the last two years shrug`
`20:56.59`	`Arilaw`	`shunemunemunemune.`
`20:57.05`	`Industrial`	`hahah`
`20:57.29`	`ckknight`	`Arilaw: shemale?`
`20:57.30`	`Industrial`	`Elkano: I cant imagine wow in dutch`
`20:57.31`	`Industrial`	`the horror`
`20:57.36`	`CIA-17`	`03durcyn * r27875 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/Cooldown.lua: FuBar_tcgTradeskills: Add primal and diamond transmute cooldowns for alchemy, and several jewelcrafting earthstorm/skyfire cooldowns.`
`20:57.48`	`Industrial`	`Elkano: I already shiver when people showme their XP home dutch`
`20:57.54`	`Arilaw`	`ckknight: Other half of the swedish chef. :D`
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`20:58.04`	`chutwig`	`woorld af krijgkrafd?`
`20:58.05`	`Arilaw`	`It wasn't spelled well.`
`20:58.12`	`ckknight`	`~emulate swedish chef`
`20:58.21`	`purl`	`Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork!`
`20:58.21`	`Arilaw`	`bork bork bork + shoo nee moo nee moon.`
`20:58.29`	`Scre3m`	`rofl`
`20:58.35`	`chutwig`	`dutch is a pretty terrible language but i try to read the dutch wikipedia occasionally to keep in practice`
`20:58.44`	`chutwig`	`slowly converting the dutch into german`
`20:59.08`	`Industrial`	`I had german in school so I can make out what people are talking about.. slowly`
`20:59.22`	`Azurewrath`	`the german language itself is fine.. but the german WoW localization is horrible..`
`20:59.34`	`chutwig`	`KREUZFAHRERSTOSS`
`20:59.35`	`Industrial`	`~x en nl warcraft`
`20:59.41`	`Industrial`	`..`
`20:59.45`	`chutwig`	`you are a crafty one purl`
`20:59.46`	`Industrial`	`~x nl en warcraft`
`20:59.56`	`nevcairiel`	`~x en nl war craft`
`21:00.07`	`Xuerian`	`indy fails.`
`21:00.26`	`nevcairiel`	`oorlogs is a pretty long word for war`
`21:00.28`	`chutwig`	`oorlog`
`21:00.41`	`Industrial`	`ambacht is more like being a tailor or carpenter etc`
`21:00.50`	`lhunath`	`all my cartographer addons are making bugs along the lines 'can't load locale 'enUS' twice' .. this a common/known issue?`
`21:01.02`	`chutwig`	`delete all the cartographer directories and redownloaded`
`21:01.02`	`nevcairiel`	`reinstall it`
`21:01.04`	`chutwig`	`er, redownload`
`21:01.04`	`Xuerian`	`lhunath: Delete your cart--`
`21:01.06`	`Xuerian`	`...`
`21:01.09`	`Xuerian`	`dammit.`
`21:01.16`	`Industrial`	`Xuerian fails.`
`21:01.16`	`chutwig`	`make sure you're using the latest version of WAU as well or whatever`
`21:01.16`	`durcyn`	`i think you should consider reinstalling cartographer.`
`21:01.23`	`Xuerian`	`h8! >.<`
`21:01.23`	`chutwig`	`neu installieren!`
`21:01.38`	`lhunath`	`xuerian: delete the folders and reinstall?`
`21:01.43`	`Xuerian`	`lhunath: Yep.`
`21:01.46`	`lhunath`	`right.`
`21:01.51`	`chutwig`	`i watched good bye lenin last night and it put my brain into german mode`
`21:02.00`	`durcyn`	`oh, btw, can anyone test the nasty shit i just did to tcgtradeskills? i'm hesitant to believe the jewelcrafting cooldowns will work without some more tweakage`
`21:02.01`	`Industrial`	`ich bin schnappie, das kleinen (en?) krokodil`
`21:02.10`	`Industrial`	`scni schna etcetc :P`
`21:02.18`	`Industrial`	`^^`
`21:02.26`	`Xuerian`	`shnappie? Shnapple... Snapple! Mm.`
`21:03.06`	`Arilaw`	`Mmm Snapple :o~`
`21:03.12`	`Industrial`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTQP1hyFfkw`
`21:03.13`	`Industrial`	`xD`
`21:03.19`	`yacoob`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:03.29`	`Azurewrath`	`yacoob: omg..`
`21:03.39`	`chutwig`	`nijntje`
`21:03.55`	`Industrial`	`nijntje! xD`
`21:04.12`	`yacoob`	`Azurewrath, yes, lately my life was devoted to making other people's IRC experience valuable :D`
`21:04.12`	`chutwig`	`i have very vague memories of nijntje`
`21:05.02`	`Azurewrath`	`Schnappi is NOT valuable in any means. :p`
`21:05.27`	`yacoob`	`schnappi by itself not, but it's enriching YOURS experience :)`
`21:05.34`	`yacoob`	`agree, or I'll ask him to sing.`
`21:06.26`	`Azurewrath`	`err.. whats worse?`
`21:06.59`	`yacoob`	`up to you 8)`
`21:07.46`	`Azurewrath`	`well.. there can't be many things that are worse then "Schnappi, das kleine Krokodil".. so.. sing! :p`
`21:09.52`	`Industrial`	`Ik heb een toe toe toeter op mijn waterscooter.`
`21:11.18`	`Industrial`	`never mind`
`21:11.19`	`Industrial`	`:p`
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`21:25.25`	`snirks`	`Azurewrath: rpf�`
`21:25.27`	`snirks`	`Azurewrath: rofl`
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`21:27.40`	`Arilaw`	`Ugh.`
`21:27.42`	`Arilaw`	`Vista.`
`21:27.50`	`deltron`	`lol`
`21:27.57`	`Arilaw`	`I need to get a copy dual-booted just so I can walk my customers through this crap.`
`21:28.05`	`Arilaw`	`I can barely find the printers and faxes folder.`
`21:28.16`	`Sutorix`	`Heh.`
`21:28.34`	`Arilaw`	`I have to put it in classic view mode every time. :\|`
`21:29.27`	`Arilaw`	`And there's no "Run" on the start menu by default!`
`21:29.29`	`Arilaw`	`That kills me.`
`21:30.02`	`Sutorix`	`Hmm, it shows up at the bottem left of the start menu for me "Run..."`
`21:30.18`	`Sutorix`	`I don't think I have it classic mode.`
`21:30.29`	`Arilaw`	`The default start menu has it disabled.`
`21:30.34`	`Arilaw`	`None of my customers change the defaults. :\|`
`21:30.41`	`Sutorix`	`And I don't remember setting somethign special -- must have though :-)`
`21:32.50`	`sbu`	`meh, server down`
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`21:33.54`	`Kemayo`	`Arilaw: The search box at the bottom of the start menu works the same as run did.`
`21:34.12`	`Kemayo`	`So you just hit the windows key and start typing, instead of windows+r.`
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`21:36.13`	`leetah\|afk`	`Hey guys, who maintains DewDrop?`
`21:41.09`	`durcyn`	`ckknight's name's on the toc.`
`21:41.34`	`ckknight`	`it's Dewdrop, not DewDrop`
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`21:44.20`	`wobin`	`hm`
`21:44.24`	`wobin`	`can we get http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4451 locked?`
`21:44.25`	`MoonWolf`	`Industrial, die, die in a fire.`
`21:44.35`	`Industrial`	`MoonWolf: ? :D`
`21:44.39`	`wobin`	`I'm tired of having to answer the same questions in more than one thread`
`21:44.55`	`ckknight`	`will do, wobin`
`21:45.02`	`Industrial`	`MoonWolf: what'd i do now?`
`21:45.09`	`MoonWolf`	`<Industrial> Ik heb een toe toe toeter op mijn waterscooter.`
`21:45.11`	`ckknight`	`locked`
`21:45.19`	`wobin`	`ckknight: Thanks =)`
`21:45.24`	`wobin`	`oo`
`21:45.26`	`wobin`	`waterscooter`
`21:45.31`	`Industrial`	`MoonWolf: xD`
`21:45.38`	`wobin`	`unless that's weird swedish for a sex toy`
`21:46.08`	`MoonWolf`	`maybe it is, maybe not :P`
`21:46.27`	`eibit`	`does anyone know what event fires when the target's target changes ?`
`21:46.49`	`Industrial`	`its a lame dutch apres-ski song that way-t--drunk idiots like and dance on tables to in the apres-ski bar :P`
`21:46.50`	`Ordog`	`[2007/02/12 20:54:01-232-x473]: Cartographer_Waypoints-2.0\Waypoints.lua:660: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'x' (a nil value)`
`21:47.06`	`Industrial`	`... like me xD`
`21:47.09`	`Silviu-`	`Ordog i get it too, when i fly over hellfore to netherstorm`
`21:47.16`	`Silviu-`	`hellfire*`
`21:47.20`	`Industrial`	`(No, I'm kidding, but the table dancing definately.)`
`21:47.29`	`Ordog`	`deleting a waypoint that had been created after entering old hillsbrad foothills as ghost`
`21:47.38`	`Industrial`	`2 more weeks and off to the french alps \o/`
`21:47.53`	`Ordog`	`the waypoint had titles like "you can do better" etc, is that some joke? ^^`
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`21:49.03`	`chutwig`	`eibit: UNIT_TARGET?`
`21:49.08`	`MoonWolf`	`yeah right, you never dance on tables`
`21:49.11`	`MoonWolf`	`i don't buy it.`
`21:49.11`	`Azurewrath`	`Ordog: i had one "Blame Canada" ;)`
`21:49.26`	`Industrial`	`wel met 10 bier op \o/`
`21:49.38`	`chutwig`	`hej op`
`21:50.15`	`durcyn`	`MoonWolf: you should poke rabbit about Mendeleev, he has a semi-working PT3 branch`
`21:50.26`	`MoonWolf`	`durcyn, read the mendy thread`
`21:50.38`	`MoonWolf`	`i may pickup coding activly at some point`
`21:50.40`	`eibit`	`chutwig: thanks for the tip, i'll check it out`
`21:50.41`	`MoonWolf`	`but not right now`
`21:50.51`	`wobin`	`Ordog: Could you post that to the waypoints thread? I'll have a look at it later`
`21:50.56`	`MoonWolf`	`to much wowradio stuff, and guild stuff and an internship that counts as an examn`
`21:51.10`	`durcyn`	`MoonWolf: i read it. i meant if you were looking for a new maintainer :o`
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`21:51.11`	`chutwig`	`eibit: seems to fire whenever any unit in visual range changes targets so i guess you just have to poll on receiving that event`
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`21:51.46`	`MoonWolf`	`btw, what do you mean semi ?`
`21:52.30`	`eibit`	`chutwig: i'll try it out. at least it's something to go on.`
`21:53.20`	`MoonWolf`	`never knew so many people still cared about old mendy`
`21:53.30`	`MoonWolf`	`it was never really intended to grow this big`
`21:53.39`	`durcyn`	`MoonWolf: semi as in there are 3-ish broken lines in the current branch, but if you fix the syntax, it "works".`
`21:53.46`	`MoonWolf`	`right`
`21:53.55`	`FISKER_Q`	`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=141234303&postId=1411516475&sid=1#13 <-best troll ever`
`21:54.10`	`MoonWolf`	`maybe i can sqeeuze out some time, somewhere`
`21:54.23`	`MoonWolf`	`if nobody wishes to maintain it.`
`21:57.05`	`ckknight`	`hrm, should player buff/debuff gain/loss be part of Parser-3.0? I know it's used in MSBT...`
`21:57.42`	`FISKER_Q`	`you doing parser 3.0?`
`21:57.58`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`21:58.05`	`ckknight`	`got the bulk of it done already`
`21:58.17`	`ckknight`	`also, combo points for rogues`
`21:58.33`	`Kemayo`	`durcyn: IF you point out the broken lines to me I'll fix 'em. (I haven't played for a few days, but wasn't getting any errors then.)`
`21:59.04`	`ckknight`	`maybe that shouldn't be part of it...`
`21:59.05`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`21:59.18`	`Silviu-`	`I just got per mail 920 nethercloth as a preasent :/`
`21:59.51`	`wobin`	`Silviu-: =\`
`21:59.56`	`wobin`	`I can't find line 660 =P`
`22:00.03`	`wobin`	`it's blank to me =P`
`22:00.14`	`wobin`	`Or Ordog, really =P`
`22:00.21`	`Silviu-`	`wobin ok sec i go fly over hellfire to netherstorm`
`22:00.26`	`wobin`	`ta`
`22:00.37`	`wobin`	`with or without a waypoint activated?`
`22:01.16`	`Silviu-`	`With a waypoint`
`22:01.17`	`Silviu-`	`There i got same error as Ordog`
`22:01.17`	`wobin`	`660?`
`22:01.21`	`Silviu-`	Don`t remember
`22:01.25`	`Silviu-`	`i did reboot my comp`
`22:01.26`	`Silviu-`	`sec`
`22:01.27`	`wobin`	`and what sort of waypoint?`
`22:01.28`	`Industrial`	`ckknight: no idea how AceOO works, but, http://lua-users.org/wiki/SimpleLuaClasses Just found this :)`
`22:01.29`	`Silviu-`	`flying atm :)`
`22:01.36`	`Silviu-`	`To a taxy icon`
`22:01.39`	`Silviu-`	`on netherstorm`
`22:01.48`	`wobin`	`hm`
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`22:01.50`	`Silviu-`	`in*`
`22:02.03`	`Silviu-`	`So note already is there from Inglight`
`22:02.08`	`Silviu-`	`I just made an waypoint to it`
`22:02.17`	`wobin`	`So you did /way <waypointname> z-Netherstorm`
`22:02.17`	`wobin`	`?`
`22:02.21`	`Silviu-`	`No`
`22:02.24`	`Silviu-`	`Right click on it`
`22:02.29`	`wobin`	`oh, from the note`
`22:02.33`	`Silviu-`	`Yes`
`22:02.42`	`ckknight`	`Industrial: AceOO is a bit more complex`
`22:02.51`	`MoonWolf`	`kinda`
`22:03.02`	`wobin`	`Hm, that should work =P`
`22:03.02`	`ckknight`	`alright, gtg`
`22:03.10`	`wobin`	`ditto`
`22:03.17`	`Silviu-`	`Ok error`
`22:03.18`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
`22:03.35`	`Silviu-`	`400/s`
`22:03.37`	`Silviu-`	`;))`
`22:03.42`	`Silviu-`	`And bugrabber stopped`
`22:03.43`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
`22:03.49`	`wobin`	`which line?`
`22:03.56`	`Silviu-`	`[2007/02/13 00:02:58-241-x63]: ...ns\Cartographer\Cartographer_Waypoints\Waypoints.lua:663: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'x' (a nil value):`
`22:03.56`	`Saroz`	Funkeh`, no Illhoof mod? :p
`22:03.58`	`Silviu-`	`663`
`22:04.16`	Funkeh`	`Saroz, i missed curator and illhoof this week`
`22:04.20`	Funkeh`	`since i was away at weekend`
`22:04.23`	`Saroz`	`ok`
`22:04.27`	`Saroz`	`transcripting now`
`22:04.31`	Funkeh`	`cool`
`22:04.51`	`Silviu-`	`wobin so when i reach that zone, countdown from meters away .. ( yards) stop and error begins`
`22:04.56`	`Kaelten`	`anyone found any more issues with the new zip script?`
`22:05.11`	`wobin`	`hm`
`22:05.24`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r27876 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer_Waypoints: Added in sanity check`
`22:05.46`	`wobin`	`possibly won't help`
`22:05.46`	`Silviu-`	Oky, just a sec i`ll test
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`22:05.51`	`Silviu-`	`Oh`
`22:05.53`	`wobin`	`but I don't have time to do a detailed test =\`
`22:05.53`	`Silviu-`	`We see :)`
`22:06.05`	`Silviu-`	I`ll be your testguy if u want :)
`22:06.15`	`wobin`	`^^`
`22:06.25`	`wobin`	`kk`
`22:06.25`	`wobin`	`heading to work`
`22:07.25`	`Silviu-`	`good luck at work :)`
`22:08.08`	`Saroz`	`lol`
`22:08.12`	`Saroz`	`joke of a boss`
`22:08.16`	`Saroz`	`1 shotted him`
`22:08.55`	`Silviu-`	`wobin ok, so arrow dissapear in this period, no more errors, countdown for yards stop and reapear when i get close to Netherstorm`
`22:08.58`	`Silviu-`	So it`s ok ^^
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`22:10.21`	`Ominous`	`hmm my wau seems to be havibng trouble with cartographer`
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`22:17.29`	`stavmar`	`hello I am getting an error with Tablet 2.0 being accessed i think. Any thoughts? http://ace.pastey.net/6504`
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`22:30.59`	`abyssichate`	`I got the same stavmar`
`22:31.16`	`stavmar`	`I am not sure which mod is causing it?`
`22:46.23`	`CIA-17`	`03gamefaq * r27877 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer: deDE Update to Waypoints Module`
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`22:51.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`anybody know ways to get item charges?`
`22:53.18`	`Xuerian`	`Tooltip scanning?`
`22:53.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`well actionbars are able to get it`
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`22:54.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`its odd, i found an item with charges that has a sell value based on the number of charges`
`22:54.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`now i need to find a good way to detect number of charges for an inventory item`
`22:55.30`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`22:55.35`	`Industrial`	`lo`
`22:55.41`	`Xuerian`	`'lo ck.`
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`23:07.41`	`ckknight`	`man, it's weird when people ask me for programming help`
`23:07.45`	`ckknight`	`irl, that is`
`23:08.15`	`Xuerian`	`Why's that?`
`23:08.46`	`Sutorix`	`Why? Are you something non-programmerish irl? :-)`
`23:09.57`	`durcyn`	`he's a fry cook.`
`23:13.03`	`Sutorix`	`@Arrowmaster -- the only thing I've seen that returns charges is GetWeaponEnchantInfo() [?] -- and it only returns equipped weapon informatio :-(`
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`23:13.28`	`ckknight`	`I'm a student`
`23:13.41`	`ckknight`	`and the majority of my classes are CS`
`23:14.00`	`rubik`	`which fubar plugin shows pvp flag? (just need something simple like yes/no or icon or something)`
`23:14.06`	`ckknight`	`HonorFu`
`23:14.13`	`rubik`	`it shows pvp status?`
`23:14.16`	`rubik`	`who knew`
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`23:17.21`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: You get asked a lot?`
`23:17.28`	`ckknight`	`reasonably`
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`23:17.36`	`ckknight`	`I mean, in my classes I'm the one who corrects the teacher`
`23:17.41`	`ckknight`	`...too often`
`23:18.01`	`Xuerian`	`Heheh.. How do they take it, usually?`
`23:18.49`	`ckknight`	`seems fine`
`23:18.53`	`ckknight`	`not like I'm rude`
`23:19.01`	`ckknight`	`I just know more`
`23:19.20`	`ckknight`	`my teacher seems to be stuck in 2001`
`23:19.26`	`ckknight`	`technology-wise`
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`23:19.32`	`Xuerian`	`How so?`
`23:19.47`	`ckknight`	`didn't know what JITting is`
`23:19.49`	`ckknight`	`for one`
`23:20.02`	`ckknight`	`Just-in-time compiling`
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`23:20.21`	`smoo`	`Hello!`
`23:20.33`	`ckknight`	`.NET and Java do it. It compiles the bytecode to machine code right before execution or dynamically depending on the situation`
`23:20.34`	`ckknight`	`hey smoo`
`23:20.41`	`smoo`	`Does anyone know an addon that while play a sound if I get a shadowtrance with my warlock?`
`23:20.52`	`Xuerian`	`Heheh. sheesh. Heya smoo. - Thought about becoming a teacher yourself once you're done being the student?`
`23:21.27`	`abyssichate`	`smoo: necrosis used to have that`
`23:21.44`	`smoo`	`used :/`
`23:21.47`	`smoo`	`necrosis does have memory leaks`
`23:21.49`	`Silviu-`	`smoo or ShardAce`
`23:21.56`	`smoo`	`using acolyte right now but it does not have soudns`
`23:21.57`	`abyssichate`	`shardace doesn't have any sound though`
`23:22.02`	`Silviu-`	`and get the mp3 from necrosis`
`23:22.05`	`Silviu-`	`It have ^^`
`23:22.11`	`abyssichate`	`I use shardace but I don't recall any sound`
`23:22.14`	`Silviu-`	`I use it :)`
`23:22.15`	`abyssichate`	`I probably disabled it`
`23:22.20`	`Silviu-`	`Yes maybe :)`
`23:22.36`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian: yea, that possibility is open`
`23:22.39`	`ckknight`	`I've taught before`
`23:22.44`	`smoo`	`Uhm.`
`23:22.46`	`ckknight`	`mostly tutoring`
`23:22.52`	`ckknight`	`only a few times before a full class`
`23:22.58`	`smoo`	`No little addon? didnt want to get rid of acolyte`
`23:23.25`	`smoo`	`Would be great if someone would have a hint.`
`23:23.58`	`Xuerian`	`smoo: I don't believe there is a specific shadowtrance alert addon in development on WoWAce.`
`23:24.31`	`[Ammo]`	`check out the Trance.lua module in Necronomicon2`
`23:24.43`	`[Ammo]`	`just add a PlaySoundFile( mymp3stuff) to the warning`
`23:24.44`	`durcyn`	`hm, there was one called Instabolt`
`23:24.48`	`[Ammo]`	`anyway`
`23:24.49`	`[Ammo]`	`later :)`
`23:25.00`	`durcyn`	`on ui.worldofwar.net, iirc`
`23:25.45`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: Nice. What'd you end up teaching/tutoring? o.0`
`23:26.00`	`ckknight`	`mathematics and computer science :-P`
`23:26.02`	`ckknight`	`depending`
`23:26.13`	`smoo`	`Ani\|:`
`23:26.16`	`smoo`	`i cant query you`
`23:26.19`	`smoo`	`I am not registerd...`
`23:26.26`	`Ani\|`	`kk ^^`
`23:26.28`	`Xuerian`	`smoo: Then register your lazy bum`
`23:26.36`	`ckknight`	`alright, looks like it's time to commit Parser-3.0`
`23:26.37`	`smoo`	`=)`
`23:26.46`	`ckknight`	`note: Parser-3.0 is just a total ripoff of MSBT's parsing.`
`23:26.50`	`smoo`	`ircing with opera right now, thats sucks :o`
`23:26.51`	`Ani\|`	`but you can read what i write right?`
`23:26.56`	`ckknight`	`granted, with a few optimizations`
`23:27.02`	`smoo`	`Ani\|: : Which thread?`
`23:27.05`	`Xuerian`	`Might have to take a look at this this parser-3.0 thing :p`
`23:27.16`	`Ani\|`	`smoo: in the querry i mean`
`23:27.18`	`ckknight`	`it has all of two methods you can call`
`23:27.20`	`Xuerian`	`See how to improve see-loot <.<`
`23:27.22`	`ckknight`	`:Register and :Unregister`
`23:27.31`	`Xuerian`	`Not really to use it, just cannibalize >:D`
`23:27.35`	`smoo`	`Ani\|: : i can read whatcha write`
`23:27.55`	`Xuerian`	`(Continue)`
`23:30.07`	`Xuerian`	`Or not.. <.<...`
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`23:30.47`	`stavmar`	`smoo: there is a sound for shadowtrance in Shard Ace`
`23:31.04`	`smoo`	`yeah, i know`
`23:31.07`	`NeoTron`	`so Parser is essentially a combat log parser helper?`
`23:31.09`	`smoo`	`but i do use acolyte`
`23:31.14`	`smoo`	`and like it`
`23:31.32`	`smoo`	`i got used to it... :D`
`23:31.47`	`smoo`	`creature of habbit. :D`
`23:32.35`	`stavmar`	`when Ammo is finished with necromonicon you defnitely want to try that out`
`23:32.40`	`Xuerian`	`So we come to realize...`
`23:32.54`	`smoo`	`maybe ill do`
`23:33.02`	`smoo`	`when will it be? ;)`
`23:33.19`	`stavmar`	`by far teh most flexibility and functioanlity without drop down menus, I am getting sick of drop down menus in my active interface`
`23:33.33`	`stavmar`	`No idea smoo`
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`23:34.40`	`ckknight`	`committing`
`23:34.42`	`ckknight`	`NeoTron: you got it`
`23:36.34`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r27878 10Parser-3.0/ (5 files in 2 dirs):`
`23:36.34`	`CIA-17`	`Parser-3.0 - initial commit.`
`23:36.34`	`CIA-17`	`Most of the code in here is stolen from MSBT (thank you, Mikord), with some optimizations.`
`23:36.34`	`CIA-17`	`Two methods are exported, :Register(data, func), and :Unregister(data).`
`23:36.34`	`CIA-17`	`The data argument is a validator that must be checked against to receive the event table.`
`23:36.35`	`CIA-17`	`e.g. { eventType = "Heal", sourceName = UnitName("player") } will make it so that all heals coming from the player will be run through func.`
`23:36.40`	`CIA-17`	`- Note: this is not release ready and API is expected to change.`
`23:37.49`	`Ominous`	`parser 3-0? what happened to 2.0?`
`23:38.01`	`ckknight`	`nothing ever came of it`
`23:38.04`	`ckknight`	`not really, at least`
`23:38.28`	`rubik`	`does nickserv on freenet ever expire/unregister a nick?`
`23:38.36`	`Ominous`	`heh, :), how is parser 3 better that 1.1`
`23:38.43`	`Xuerian`	`I'd ask nickserv.`
`23:38.54`	`ckknight`	`Ominous: simpler interface imho.`
`23:38.54`	`rubik`	`cause the dude using my nick registered it 2+ yrs ago and hasn't authed since`
`23:38.56`	`JoshBorke`	`read their website rubik`
`23:38.57`	`NeoTron`	`Ominous: It's 1.9 better of course. ;-)`
`23:39.00`	`ckknight`	`Ominous: also it's freaky fast`
`23:39.01`	`Xuerian`	`Ominous: ckknight worked his voodedoo on it.`
`23:39.13`	`pastamancer`	`vhaarr: lol http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4628.msg80759#msg80759`
`23:39.28`	`Ominous`	`heh just gotta wait for docs now then :)`
`23:39.35`	`ckknight`	`yea, the API's due to change`
`23:39.41`	`vhaarr`	`pastamancer: :P`
`23:39.43`	`ckknight`	`things'll become more terse`
`23:39.57`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm i wonder if autobar is intended to use items on both mousedown and mouseup`
`23:40.06`	`ckknight`	`it's a lot of Mikord's code`
`23:40.15`	`ckknight`	`but I used some hacks from Deformat and such`
`23:40.21`	`ckknight`	`and optimized all sorts of other crazy stuff`
`23:40.58`	`Ominous`	`nice`
`23:41.05`	`ckknight`	`also, it uses AceLibrary properly unlike Parser-1.1`
`23:41.36`	`Chinku`	`~seen nymbia`
`23:42.05`	`purl`	`nymbia <n=nymbia@168-103-200-247.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20h 12m 42s ago, saying: 'yeah'.`
`23:42.05`	`ckknight`	`but it doesn't use AceEvent-2.0 like Parser-2.0 tries`
`23:42.05`	`ckknight`	`cause I consider it unnecessary and it'd get in the way`
`23:42.05`	`ckknight`	`the Registration system I set up is quite workable`
`23:42.46`	`Ominous`	`hmm would it be eaier to work out how it works from looking at code or by waiting for docs`
`23:43.29`	`ckknight`	`here's what I recommend:`
`23:43.51`	`ckknight`	`AceLibrary("Parser-3.0"):Register({}, function(t) AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral(t) end)`
`23:43.54`	`ckknight`	`then go smack something.`
`23:44.06`	`ckknight`	`you'll get the gist of it real fast from that`
`23:44.15`	`Xuerian`	`XD`
`23:44.39`	`Ominous`	`nice... late night for me tonight then :)`
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`23:45.53`	`ckknight`	`but the API won't change drastically`
`23:46.04`	`ckknight`	`so if you were to code something, any fixes won't be major`
`23:46.10`	`Ominous`	`oki`
`23:46.16`	`ckknight`	`afaik`
`23:46.30`	`Xuerian`	`ConvertGlobalString hurts my brain`
`23:46.34`	`ckknight`	`we'll see`
`23:46.38`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian: hehe. yea`
`23:46.44`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian: look at Deformat for more of a brainfuck`
`23:47.07`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: Oh, I already gave my verdict on deformat back when I started Monitor. "Brainfuck" pretty much summed it up, too :P`
`23:47.16`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`23:49.34`	`JoshBorke`	`Xuerian: what's monitor?`
`23:49.55`	`Xuerian`	`Josh_Borke: XLoot Monitor. I refer to the trio of modules by their short name :P`
`23:50.01`	`JoshBorke`	`ah, ok`
`23:50.56`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: you could make roster-2.1 an optionaldep and use it to look up the unit ID in GetUnitIDFromName, like \|if RL then return RL.roster[name].unitid end\|`
`23:51.12`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr: yea, I was planning to`
`23:51.14`	`ckknight`	`;-)`
`23:51.18`	`vhaarr`	`^^`
`23:51.19`	`CIA-17`	`03archarodim * r27879 10Decursive/Dcr_DebuffsFrame.lua:`
`23:51.19`	`CIA-17`	`Decursive:`
`23:51.19`	`CIA-17`	`- When the border transparency was set to 100%, new MUFs' alpha was not set`
`23:54.31`	`Ominous`	`well time to try it :)`
`23:56.11`	`ilifin`	`how do you remove a friend when you got auldlangsyne sync on? >_>`
`23:56.17`	`ilifin`	`getting really annoyed here :p`
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