irclog2html for #wowace on 20070220

`00:00.05`	`OverloadUT`	`I'm using mIRC but you guys seem to be doing things easily. Everyone puts who they're talking to at the beginning of the line - are you copy/pasting, typing, or using some feature of your client? And people must have it bong when their name is said. Maybe I can set all of this up in mIRC :P`
`00:00.25`	`Xuerian`	`ov tab = "OverloadUI: "`
`00:00.27`	`Lysithea`	`letter + tab`
`00:00.38`	`OverloadUT`	`Xuerian: Ohhhh!`
`00:00.44`	`Xuerian`	`See? :p`
`00:00.50`	`OverloadUT`	`Xuerian: I do!`
`00:00.57`	`Xuerian`	`Now stop pinging me. >_>`
`00:01.01`	`Lysithea`	`haha :D`
`00:01.33`	`nymbia`	`Xuerian`
`00:01.38`	`Xuerian`	`nymbia`
`00:01.41`	`nymbia`	`Xuerian`
`00:01.44`	`Xuerian`	`nymbia`
`00:01.48`	`nymbia`	`Xuerian: hi :)`
`00:01.49`	`yacoob`	`stop!`
`00:01.51`	`pb_ee1`	`OverloadUT: You can just type the begninng of a nickname and press Tab, it should complete the nick by itself`
`00:01.51`	`Lysithea`	`put a timer on that imo`
`00:01.51`	`Xuerian`	`nymbia: Hai!`
`00:01.53`	`yacoob`	`...hammer time.`
`00:02.00`	`Xuerian`	`XD`
`00:02.03`	`OverloadUT`	`Ah okay and now I have it beep when my name is said`
`00:02.13`	`OverloadUT`	`There we go, the two things I wanted :P`
`00:02.25`	ag`	`I like the windows version of xchat.`
`00:02.32`	ag`	`not free unless you compile it yourself though`
`00:02.32`	`Xuerian`	`OverloadUT: Google Wurt miranda for some nice wav files for alerts`
`00:03.01`	`OverloadUT`	`Xuerian Thanks`
`00:03.18`	`*** join/#wowace ravagernl (n=chatzill@85.148.20.110)`
`00:03.49`	`ravagernl`	`lmao, is tekkub using titanpanel :> http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/WTF/Account/TEKKUB/AddOns.txt`
`00:04.41`	`Xuerian`	`=O`
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`00:04.55`	`yacoob`	`I say, empeachement is in order.`
`00:05.19`	`sylvanaar`	`lol`
`00:05.30`	`OverloadUT`	`Does a WoWAce wiki page get created for each addon automatically?`
`00:05.31`	`Xuerian`	`That's old, tho..... >_>`
`00:05.38`	`nymbia`	`looks pretty ace2 free ;)`
`00:06.04`	`yacoob`	`Ah! So we discover the naked and ugly past about our dear coder!`
`00:06.04`	`ravagernl`	`titanpanel, cmon...`
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`00:07.27`	`ravagernl`	`whaha`
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`00:09.51`	`BlindJimmy`	`What is pastey used for?`
`00:10.04`	`ravagernl`	`to paste code`
`00:10.07`	`CIA-17`	`03pprovost * r28558 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (filelist.wau uiQuery/ uiQuery/placeholder.txt): !!!StandaloneLibraries: Added uiQuery.`
`00:10.31`	`BlindJimmy`	`Oh ok, just to avoid spamming irc?`
`00:11.28`	`OverloadUT`	`Someone try out Cartographer_QuestObjectives so I can get some feedback ;)`
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`00:11.52`	`Tekkub`	`ravagernl, I've not purged my Savedvars in a long ass time`
`00:12.16`	`ravagernl`	`haha I see, then they must be 3 years old or something :P`
`00:14.25`	`knarf^`	`Anyone know if there is any fishing enhancing addons out there? :)`
`00:14.42`	`OverloadUT`	`So do you ever have to "check out" files from SVN before modifying them?`
`00:14.57`	`OverloadUT`	`Sorry, the source control I've used the most is MS VSS :(`
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`00:15.54`	`knarf^`	`is it posible to autocast the fishingline after looting?`
`00:16.08`	`OverloadUT`	`Oh wait check out actually means something in SVN... I guess I mean mark the file as "I am modifying this"`
`00:16.25`	`JoshBorke`	`knarf^: no`
`00:16.46`	`knarf^`	`darn it, I just picked up fishing again :)`
`00:18.07`	`Tekkub`	`no OverloadUT, checkout is getting yourself a copy to edit. SVN doesn't lock files unless you chose to get a lock, and it's designed so that you shouldn't need to do that`
`00:18.12`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r28559 10BigWigs/Plugins/ (Bars.lua Messages.lua):`
`00:18.12`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Bars/Messages:`
`00:18.12`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:18.12`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:18.13`	`ravagernl`	`my fishing is 300 on my 35 hunter haha`
`00:18.41`	`knarf^`	`I had 300 fishing before I was lvl 60`
`00:18.42`	`Tekkub`	`commits will bitch if someone else committed and won't let you till you update and resolve any conflicts`
`00:19.15`	`sylvanaar`	`the only lock concept in svn in voluntary, or enforced by external scripts, it differs from VSS in that respect, thats a conceptual hurdle`
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`00:20.22`	`OverloadUT`	`Tekkub: Thanks`
`00:20.52`	`Tekkub`	`yea but SVN doesn't need locks, thankfully :)`
`00:22.00`	`ravagernl`	`sylvanaar: I have an old addon called claxon, which does the same as chatsounds, would you mind adding the sounds from it to the prat package? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5182-Claxon.html`
`00:22.25`	`ravagernl`	`the sounds are nice too :)`
`00:22.32`	`Tekkub`	`I need some good sounds for trillian`
`00:22.32`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten-Laptop: Mind if I make uiQuery LoD? It will be loaded automatically when someone does AceLibrary("uiQuery-1.0") or AceLibrary("uiTemplate-1.0").`
`00:22.51`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`vhaarr: thats fine`
`00:22.56`	`Tekkub`	`when the hubby starts IMing like mad I just want to log out to make the noise stop`
`00:22.59`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r28560 10uiQuery/uiQuery.toc: uiQuery: LoD.`
`00:23.03`	`Tekkub`	`but I want noises or I miss things`
`00:23.15`	`Tekkub`	`so it's gotta be noticable, but not annoying en-masse`
`00:23.22`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten-Laptop: Are the wiki docs up to date wrt uiQuery?`
`00:23.30`	`Amadeo`	`Tekkub: Be like Blizzard and make scripts to reply to the common statements and questions!`
`00:23.31`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`for the most part`
`00:23.38`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I need to update info on a few new things`
`00:23.52`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`but iirc everything there is correct still`
`00:23.57`	`vhaarr`	`alright, cool`
`00:24.13`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`mainly the templates aren't documented yet`
`00:24.16`	`ravagernl`	`tekkub: exactly why i created claxon`
`00:24.20`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`and neither is :Each()`
`00:24.48`	`ravagernl`	`I was tired of the hard sounds of chatsounds`
`00:25.22`	`JoshBorke`	`Tekkub: i like the new gaim sounds :-)`
`00:25.49`	`sylvanaar`	`ravagernl im feeling lazy right now, but yeah`
`00:26.18`	`ravagernl`	`hmm, speaking of sounds, we need a soundlib, like surfaces, but for sounds. and for fonts too.`
`00:26.47`	`Xuerian`	`Waves and Curves?`
`00:26.52`	`sylvanaar`	`ravagernl those sounds are too big`
`00:27.32`	`sylvanaar`	`prats are like 5k each, those are like 100k`
`00:27.32`	`ravagernl`	`hmm, any way of adding the sounds myself to prat? or is the table for them local`
`00:27.56`	`Xuerian`	`Tekkub: Some nice event wav's: http://addons.miranda-im.org/details.php?action=viewfile&id=1512`
`00:28.05`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, just replace the ones in prat's sounds folder`
`00:28.41`	`ravagernl`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:29.36`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah until i can come up with a better method or i fix it so you can register sound files`
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`00:30.10`	`sylvanaar`	`which is 2 ways of saying the same thing`
`00:33.36`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten-Laptop: Perhaps you could write a short uiQuery tutorial where you simply convert one piece of code that uses the old style CreateFrame,CreateTexture,etc to uiQuery code?`
`00:34.10`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten-Laptop: Doesn't really need any explanation for my sake, just "before" and "after" code boxes.`
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`00:35.53`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r28561 10sct/sct.lua: sct: Updated temporary execute tracking to have a level range.`
`00:37.22`	`ravagernl`	`sylvanaar: maybe I can cut down the bitrate so they get smaller`
`00:38.24`	`ravagernl`	`When are you going to make prat a WAU package sylv`
`00:38.52`	`sylvanaar`	`no need to LoD prat really`
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`00:41.53`	`ravagernl`	`sylvanaar: I can insert the path of a soundfile to Prat.sounds?`
`00:41.57`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r28562 10sct/localization.de.lua: sct: updated German localization`
`00:42.11`	`CIA-17`	`03grayhoof * r28563 10sct_options/localization.de.lua: sct_options: updated German localization`
`00:42.29`	`ravagernl`	`would it be Prat.sounds.Soundblabla = path`
`00:42.35`	`Gngsk_`	`hmm, anyone here use violation?`
`00:42.46`	`ravagernl`	`gngsk_ me`
`00:43.02`	`Gngsk_`	`have you ever used NanoStats?`
`00:43.31`	`sylvanaar`	`Im going to add an API for you to do it RegisterSound(name, path), but i have code chatsounds properly to use it also.`
`00:43.48`	`ravagernl`	`cool`
`00:44.38`	`ravagernl`	`gngsk_ I think I have`
`00:45.35`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`vhaarr: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/UiQuery#Before_and_After`
`00:45.56`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`there is a quick one. gave me an idea for a new helper function.`
`00:46.22`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`could also be rewrittin into a uiTemplate`
`00:46.26`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`but I'll post that later`
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`00:47.43`	`Gngsk_`	`ravagernl, just tryin' to tell the difference between nanostats and violation. because they seem to track the same thing. I guess if my other group members also have violation it shows their data too?`
`00:47.56`	`ravagernl`	`yes`
`00:48.07`	`Gngsk_`	`heh, k`
`00:48.10`	`JJSheets`	`I believe the word Eureka describes my mood right now... figured out my editbox problem. :p`
`00:48.15`	`Gngsk_`	`yet another ace mod to cram down guildies throats :D`
`00:48.16`	`ravagernl`	`It will also get info from damagemeters and swstats`
`00:48.24`	`Gngsk_`	`oh nice`
`00:48.38`	`ravagernl`	`but those ones will not receive data from vio`
`00:48.42`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r28564 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: RegisterSound(name, path), the modules still expect sounds to have hardcoded names, so currently this can only "soft-replace" the existing sounds`
`00:48.46`	`Gngsk_`	`yeah, that makes sense`
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`00:49.34`	`vhaarr`	`not swstats`
`00:49.35`	`vhaarr`	`yet`
`00:49.43`	`ravagernl`	`meh`
`00:49.46`	`sylvanaar`	`There, you can call that using one of the existing names, and point prat to another file location`
`00:49.46`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten-Laptop: thanks`
`00:49.55`	`ravagernl`	`awesome sylvanaar`
`00:51.21`	`Xuerian`	`Kaelten-Laptop: Creating the frame on a uiquery chain also affects it's members? o.o`
`00:51.50`	`Kemayo`	`Hey, this UIQuery thing is pretty awesome. I should go away for the weekend more often if this is going to happen.`
`00:52.01`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`00:55.21`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten-Laptop: [2007/02/20 01:54:49-1789-x1]: uiQuery-1.0-28555 (uiQuery):134: attempt to index local 'arg1' (a number value)`
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`00:57.08`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r28565 10uiQuery/ (uiQuery-1.0/uiQuery-1.0.lua uiQuery.toc):`
`00:57.08`	`CIA-17`	`uiQuery:`
`00:57.08`	`CIA-17`	`- fix indexing bug, and added better description`
`00:57.13`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`whoops`
`00:57.15`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`fixed`
`00:57.47`	`ravagernl`	`vhaarr: By the way, what happened to dreamchat?`
`00:57.47`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`Xuerian: no`
`00:58.03`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`Xuerian: it returns a new query with the created frame(s) bound to it.`
`00:58.39`	`Xuerian`	`Kaelten-Laptop: Ahhh, so frame is actually a query, but for all intents and purposes is also the frame that it was used to create?`
`00:59.04`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`Xuerian: um..... I think so`
`00:59.06`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`lol`
`00:59.29`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I'll be adding better methods to add children and what not soon.`
`00:59.44`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`vhaarr: working now ?`
`00:59.46`	`vhaarr`	`ravagernl: You'd better ask AKX or mikma.`
`00:59.56`	`ravagernl`	`ok`
`00:59.57`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten-Laptop: Haven't tried yet, I'll scream if it doesn't :)`
`01:02.11`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`vhaarr: I'm going to be back online in a little while.`
`01:02.22`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`don't hollar at me till I get back`
`01:02.35`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`or at least if you're going to do it on the forums :P`
`01:02.46`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`bbl`
`01:03.13`	`vhaarr`	`^^`
`01:04.39`	`sylvanaar`	`AKX: ping`
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`01:06.48`	ag`	`ckknight, Parser-3.0 bug`
`01:06.59`	`ckknight`	`hrm?`
`01:07.10`	ag`	`eventType = "Notification" triggers bug at line 1307`
`01:07.19`	ag`	`attempt to call field validFunc`
`01:07.25`	ag`	`(a nil value)`
`01:08.03`	ag`	`if I register parser event with eventType Notifcation`
`01:09.21`	`JJSheets`	`Okay... I have finally gotten Omnibus to the point I want it at... it is now worthy of the Title: "Ultimate In-Game Text Editor"`
`01:09.52`	`JJSheets`	`Now to get everything set up for localization....`
`01:10.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`anybody in here know much about DKPmon and Bidder?`
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`01:11.50`	`pb_ee1`	`I have finished the translataion of my Ace2 guide on "how does the Ace2 AddOns work", it still needs to be enhanced and corrected, but the main parts are here`
`01:13.29`	`pb_ee1`	`The aim is to post it on the official forums to tell the world that Ace2 is possible for people who don't want to spend their life in "how does this bloody thing work?"`
`01:14.01`	`cladhaire`	`does anyone actually argue that ace2 is difficult?`
`01:14.15`	`pb_ee1`	`I mean`
`01:14.21`	`pb_ee1`	`Not the addosn themselves`
`01:14.25`	`JJSheets`	`perhaps getting everything is difficult... but other than that...`
`01:14.30`	`cladhaire`	`the libraries are quite simple to use`
`01:14.39`	`pb_ee1`	`For sure cladhaire`
`01:14.41`	`cladhaire`	`i'd just be careful with _what_ you post`
`01:14.46`	`cladhaire`	`unless you're looking for another flame war`
`01:15.16`	`pb_ee1`	`no worries, i already talked about it with... erm... don't remember who it was, but i will not post it until one of the admins will read it and comment it`
`01:15.17`	ag`	`ckknight, can you reproduce? Or am I on crack?`
`01:15.43`	`ckknight`	`in BFD`
`01:15.51`	`cladhaire`	`pb_ee1: No, I undestand that, i just think its better suited for the wiki shrug`
`01:15.53`	`cladhaire`	`direct people to it`
`01:15.55`	`cladhaire`	`rather than opening yourself up`
`01:16.02`	`vhaarr`	`pb_ee1: I agree with cladhaire.`
`01:16.05`	`pb_ee1`	`cladhaire: it's already on the wiki :p`
`01:16.15`	`cladhaire`	`then why post on the forums?`
`01:16.16`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`01:16.19`	`pb_ee1`	`it just needs a few enhancements ;p`
`01:16.22`	`cladhaire`	`just being realistic`
`01:16.31`	`pb_ee1`	`i'm french so the translation is not very good`
`01:16.34`	`cladhaire`	`the average forum user wont' care, and it will bring the worst out of people like it always does`
`01:16.42`	`pb_ee1`	`moreover i'm not sure at 100% of all what I say inside`
`01:16.57`	`pb_ee1`	`and finally I need to update what i call my Ace2Packs`
`01:17.59`	`pb_ee1`	`I'll do this tomorrow and I'll give you the link ;)`
`01:18.33`	`Xuerian`	`pb_ee1: Humor cladhaire and post it somewhere we can see it first, like in a page on the wiki or on the wowace forums >.>;`
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`01:19.06`	`pb_ee1`	`Xuerian: this is what I wanted to do anyway :p`
`01:19.21`	`Xuerian`	`pb_ee1: Okay then <.<;`
`01:19.57`	`pb_ee1`	`I actually know a lot of people, even some guys i didn't have heard about before, that installed Ace2 because they read my guides ;p`
`01:20.44`	`pb_ee1`	`It could be a good thing for Ace, or a bad thing, this is why i absolutely want it to be read by some guys from Ace2 before doing anything with it`
`01:21.41`	`vhaarr`	`Ace2 is a developer framework, whether or not users have it installed is really irrelevant to most of us.`
`01:22.23`	`pb_ee1`	`would you not be pleased to know that there are more people that use Ace2 because it is a bit more "user-friendly"? ;)`
`01:22.37`	`pb_ee1`	`I really think it should be used more than it is at the moment ;p`
`01:23.28`	`cladhaire`	`meh`
`01:24.01`	`JJSheets`	`more users demand faster bugfixes. I'm too lazy for that. lol`
`01:24.21`	`Tain`	`Ace Ace baby.. dum dum dum dum de de dum dum`
`01:24.26`	`pb_ee1`	`:p`
`01:24.28`	`BlindJimmy`	`...`
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`01:24.57`	`Tain`	`Alright stop, collaborate and listen. Ace is back with a brand new mixin`
`01:25.01`	`pastamancer`	`Tain: to the tune of "Under Pressure" of course, right?`
`01:25.22`	`BlindJimmy`	`wow Tain... just wow`
`01:25.32`	`cladhaire`	`pastamancer: No, that was dun dun dun da da dun dun. mine is dun dun dun da da dun dun, da`
`01:25.44`	`Tain`	`hah hah cladhaire has the truth of it!`
`01:25.52`	`pastamancer`	`haha`
`01:26.57`	`cladhaire`	`they're totally different imo`
`01:29.17`	`OverloadUT`	`I would like a simple mod where I can do something like "/find mithril" and it'll print out which characters have how much`
`01:29.29`	`JJSheets`	`make it then. :p`
`01:29.33`	`JJSheets`	`hahahahahahahaha`
`01:29.44`	`OverloadUT`	`I'm asking if there is one since I figure there's gotta be ;)`
`01:29.58`	`JJSheets`	`I'm sure there's something similar. :)`
`01:31.26`	`Barbanus`	`Boooo, the /stopcasting in that macro means I cant spam heal :P`
`01:31.26`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r28566 10Prat/modules/Sounds.lua: Prat: Fixes to whispers (you can tell that i whisper myself to test). The sound list is now read from Prat's list, and will reflect changes made are runtime. The sounds now play when you select them (as a preview)`
`01:31.28`	`Barbanus`	`the /use 13 \| /stopcasting \| /cast Heal`
`01:31.45`	`Barbanus`	`Thats no good :P`
`01:31.59`	`pastamancer`	`measure twice, heal once`
`01:32.43`	`pastamancer`	`OverloadUT: get sanity2`
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`01:35.13`	`OverloadUT`	`pastamancer: Thanks, I'll check it out.,`
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`01:40.46`	`OverloadUT`	`Are there any spamming/disconnection concerns when using SendCommMessage?`
`01:41.20`	`pastamancer`	`yes, you should be using AceComm or ChatThrottleLib`
`01:42.16`	`OverloadUT`	`I assumed SendCommMessage was part of AceComm`
`01:42.30`	`vhaarr`	`It is, so the answer to your question is no.`
`01:42.38`	`vhaarr`	`pastamancer thought you meant SendAddonMessage.`
`01:42.51`	`pastamancer`	`indeed`
`01:44.01`	`OverloadUT`	`Okay that's what I figured, awesome :)`
`01:45.40`	`CIA-17`	`03jjsheets * r28567 10Omnibus/ (8 files):`
`01:45.40`	`CIA-17`	`Omnibus: UI Overhauled, added Folios (folders), default template and tag per`
`01:45.40`	`CIA-17`	`folio, added Tags with font, size, and page type per tag, added JSL Ancient and`
`01:45.40`	`CIA-17`	`JSL Ancient Italics fonts, added Page Autorun on Login/ReloadUI per page`
`01:45.40`	`CIA-17`	`feature. Embedded lua syntax Highlighter and indenter.`
`01:46.11`	`JJSheets`	`muahahahahahahahaha!!! Everybody who uses Omnibus please update and find out where I screwed up.`
`01:46.43`	`OverloadUT`	`Does Omnibus allow you to create notes about players that will show up when you do a /who?`
`01:47.03`	`JJSheets`	`no, but it's remotely possible for that to happen.`
`01:47.24`	`OverloadUT`	`Because I'm looking for an addon that does that ;)`
`01:47.27`	`JJSheets`	`right now I want to make sure I didn't just nuke everybody's notes first. :p`
`01:47.39`	`JJSheets`	`lol you're looking for a mod that does everything. :)`
`01:47.57`	`JJSheets`	`I'm off to check on my beef stew... I love crock pots...`
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`01:48.31`	`OverloadUT`	`I love creating/finding/configuring addons more than I like playing the game ;)`
`01:48.43`	`BankZ`	`is there anyway to have agUF disable during a raid?`
`01:48.44`	`OverloadUT`	`If I haven't added two mods to my folder (which might be replacements) each day, then I have failed!`
`01:49.25`	`JJSheets`	`OverloadUT, are you OCD by chance?`
`01:50.00`	`Xuerian`	`If that's a sign of ocd, I am... >_>`
`01:50.06`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`01:51.01`	`CIA-17`	`03fin * r28568 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: tickled: uncommented entry for Alias.lua; added #ed entry for Format.lua`
`01:51.09`	`JJSheets`	`Well... I now get to play for a bit... :p`
`01:51.16`	`OverloadUT`	`Well okay I don't really try to add two each day. But I am constantly looking for more addons to add. I love addons that just make one small element of the interface better. Cosplay is a great example.`
`01:53.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`thats odd, because every day i look for one of my existing addons that i can get rid of. i usually fail, though. >.>`
`01:53.44`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`01:55.36`	`Fin`	`OverloadUT: you know what you should do mate`
`01:55.57`	`Fin`	`OverloadUT: you should write about all these addons you test and stuff`
`01:56.05`	`Fin`	`OverloadUT: something like http://wowacereview.wordpress.com/ was, for a bitg`
`01:56.07`	`Fin`	`-g`
`01:56.17`	`Fin`	`I'd read it`
`01:56.42`	`OverloadUT`	`Heh, not a bad idea`
`01:57.01`	`Fin`	`seriously, do it`
`01:57.48`	`Fin`	`you obviously spend a lot of time trying out all the different addons out there and keeping up to date with stuff, you must have a good idea of what's good and what's not and stuff`
`01:58.30`	`Fin`	`I wanted to do something like that once, I was going to write a little weekly update thingy which reviewed a particular group of addons each time`
`01:58.50`	`Fin`	`chat mods one time, targetting mods another, map mods, unit bars, etc.`
`01:59.00`	`OverloadUT`	`I like that curse added their digg-like voting for addons, but it ends up just showing what's popular, not what's good per se`
`01:59.08`	`Fin`	`I'm too lazy though`
`01:59.16`	`OverloadUT`	`Heh, the laziness thing is my problem`
`01:59.32`	`OverloadUT`	`Right now I'm spending all my time on Cart_QuestObjectives :P`
`02:01.07`	`Nickenyfiken`	`OverloadUT: you wrote that?`
`02:01.28`	`OverloadUT`	`Nickenyfiken: Yeah, are you using it?`
`02:01.42`	`OverloadUT`	`I just added it to the SVN like 2 hours ago`
`02:01.46`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yeah i tried it a bit an hour ago`
`02:01.55`	`Nickenyfiken`	`good work i have to say`
`02:02.13`	`OverloadUT`	`Thanks :) - I am of course looking for suggestions and complaints`
`02:02.17`	`Nickenyfiken`	`seems to work well`
`02:02.26`	`OverloadUT`	`Did you notice that the icons scale?`
`02:02.35`	`OverloadUT`	`Feature I added at the last minute that I really like`
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`02:03.17`	`Nickenyfiken`	`nope i didn't actually test it that much... i just grabbed a quest and killed a few mobs and saw to notes added`
`02:03.30`	`Nickenyfiken`	`s/to/two`
`02:03.33`	`OverloadUT`	`Ah yeah. And of course the notes filter based on your and your party's quests`
`02:04.12`	`Nickenyfiken`	`well, whats with the scaling?`
`02:04.15`	`JJSheets`	`wow... purl's taking it's sweet time...`
`02:04.20`	`OverloadUT`	`The scaling feature is that it watches how many of the objective you complete in a small area. The more you get scales up the size of the icon based on the num needed for that quest`
`02:04.24`	`Nickenyfiken`	`they are bigger if more mobs are killed near the note?`
`02:04.41`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ah nice`
`02:04.47`	`OverloadUT`	`In other words, if it's a quest to find one item, and you find it, it'll be a much bigger item, or as you said, if you kill a bunch of mobs in a very small area`
`02:04.53`	`OverloadUT`	`item=icon`
`02:05.02`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yeah`
`02:05.11`	`OverloadUT`	`I quested with a friend a bunch in Ungoro to test it out.`
`02:05.21`	`OverloadUT`	`Turns out that place is a bad example for showing it off`
`02:05.29`	`OverloadUT`	`Because pretty much all the quests can be completed anywhere :P`
`02:05.39`	`OverloadUT`	`So I ended up with dozens of notes scattered around the path we walked`
`02:05.46`	`Kemayo`	`The whole map would be one big note after an hour or two.`
`02:05.52`	`OverloadUT`	`Haha`
`02:05.58`	`Nickenyfiken`	`well one problem with notes and areas is that they get cluttered with many notes close to each other`
`02:06.19`	`OverloadUT`	`Well it will stop when you complete the quest, and the notes don't show unless you are on the quest and still need some of that objective`
`02:06.32`	`JJSheets`	`You ought to find some way to merge your notes if they are the same type and close together...`
`02:06.32`	`Nickenyfiken`	`thats what i like about it`
`02:06.36`	`OverloadUT`	`So yeah if you have all the notes for all teh quests in a zone and now you're doing it with a new character there will be tons of notes everywhere`
`02:06.51`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r28569 10Dracul/ (. Dracul.lua Dracul.toc libs/): Dracul: Tracks VE/VT gain, Fubar plugin -- initial commit`
`02:07.03`	`OverloadUT`	`JJSheets: It does that. It will not create another note if there is already one within 75 yards`
`02:07.09`	`JJSheets`	`Ah. Cool`
`02:07.14`	`Nickenyfiken`	`but there was an option to only show notes from quests that is tracked right?`
`02:07.15`	`OverloadUT`	`Instead it will scale up the existing one slightly`
`02:07.32`	`OverloadUT`	`Nickenyfiken: Oh yeah I forgot about that. Yes you can have it only show notes for "tracked" quests`
`02:07.40`	`Nickenyfiken`	`that can be very useful`
`02:07.44`	`OverloadUT`	`I use QuestFu with a detached tooltip so I never use the track feature but I figured some people might`
`02:08.13`	`OverloadUT`	`Right now I'm adding a big feature: The ability to query your guild/party for quest objective notes`
`02:08.16`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i actually use QuestsFus modified tracking thing`
`02:08.37`	`Nickenyfiken`	`instead of having the tooltip deatached`
`02:08.46`	`Nickenyfiken`	`it works very well`
`02:08.47`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r28570 10Dracul/libs/: Dracul: externals`
`02:08.50`	`OverloadUT`	`Yeah I tried that, but I can't "track" quests with no objectives`
`02:08.57`	`OverloadUT`	`I'm just too used to MonkeyQuest`
`02:09.19`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r28571 10Dracul/Dracul.lua: Dracul: Removed mixin not needed`
`02:09.41`	`OverloadUT\|afk`	`Movie time bye guys`
`02:09.49`	`Nickenyfiken`	`bye bye`
`02:09.51`	`Nickenyfiken`	`bedtime`
`02:10.40`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r28572 10Dracul/Dracul.toc: Dracul: TOC changes`
`02:11.11`	`Barbanus`	`anyone know if you can remove the weird noise you get when you try to use a trinket that is on cooldown?`
`02:11.24`	`Barbanus`	`(not the error speech, and dont say the option in settings :P)`
`02:11.47`	`Bruners`	`dont have that noise`
`02:12.01`	`Nickenyfiken`	`me neither`
`02:12.34`	`Barbanus`	`its like a woosh noise, kinda`
`02:13.36`	`nymbia`	`just dont hit your trinket when its not cooled down ;)`
`02:14.04`	`Barbanus`	`I'm using a macro that hits my trinket on every heal cast :P`
`02:14.13`	`Barbanus`	`trying to be lazy!`
`02:14.27`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hehe`
`02:14.44`	`nymbia`	`my point exactly. why would you NOT want control of when your burst healing occurs?`
`02:15.43`	`CIA-17`	`03gnancy * r28573 10FuBar_CorkFu/ClassWarlock.lua: FuBar_CorkFu - Fixed Invis and added Fel Armor`
`02:15.52`	`sylvanaar`	`who knows about special events library`
`02:16.01`	`Barbanus`	`its not burst healing :P`
`02:16.18`	`Barbanus`	`http://www.thottbot.com/?i=60052`
`02:16.30`	`Barbanus`	`if I use that every cooldown .. it works out to 18.5mp5`
`02:17.38`	`Barbanus`	`hehe`
`02:19.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ow! hey!`
`02:19.41`	`Yinchie`	`hrmm whats fubar_corkfu?`
`02:19.44`	`Xuerian`	`Sorry. >_>`
`02:19.49`	`Xuerian`	`~xuerian`
`02:19.51`	`purl`	`ACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random.`
`02:21.36`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r28574 10Dracul/Dracul.lua: Dracul: Bugfix, cleanup, tweaks`
`02:22.05`	ag`	`Hay guys`
`02:22.09`	ag`	`you priests and stuff`
`02:22.15`	ag`	`tell me what you think of Dracul`
`02:22.29`	`vhaarr`	ag`: I think it's a complete rip of violation :P
`02:22.35`	ag`	`vhaarr, yeah it is`
`02:22.36`	ag`	`:P`
`02:22.41`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`02:22.44`	`nymbia`	`lol`
`02:22.48`	`sylvanaar`	`lol`
`02:22.52`	ag`	`lol`
`02:22.57`	`Xuerian`	`<.<`
`02:22.57`	`vhaarr`	`lol`
`02:22.58`	`Xuerian`	`>.>`
`02:22.59`	`Xuerian`	`...`
`02:23.00`	`Xuerian`	`lol`
`02:23.04`	`sylvanaar`	`^.^`
`02:23.10`	`vhaarr`	ag`: but I see you added my name to the TOC, so that's cool :)
`02:23.10`	`JJSheets`	`that's a lotta lol`
`02:23.19`	`pb_ee1`	$^.^$
`02:23.23`	`sylvanaar`	`anyone knowledgable about SpecialEventsLib?`
`02:23.26`	ag`	`vhaarr, of course, you made most of it`
`02:23.47`	`sylvanaar`	`><`
`02:23.54`	`vhaarr`	`sylvanaar: what about it?`
`02:25.37`	ag`	`vhaarr, I was not sure if it was within the scope of doing as a violation module`
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`02:25.46`	`sylvanaar`	`Something is not interacting well between Prat and oRA2 LoD. Frankly I dont see what it is. So I am exploring other paths. Are oRA's deps set up correctly`
`02:26.00`	`vhaarr`	ag`: it will be
`02:26.11`	ag`	`I'll just convert it then`
`02:26.15`	`Fin`	`what's Dracul?`
`02:26.24`	`sylvanaar`	`they look wrong to me`
`02:26.32`	`vhaarr`	`sylvanaar: looks fine`
`02:26.34`	`sylvanaar`	`oRA2: Add SEEA OptDep.`
`02:26.35`	`sylvanaar`	`------------------------------------------------------------------------`
`02:26.35`	`sylvanaar`	`r26833 \| ammo \| 2007-02-01 08:42:06 -0500 (Thu, 01 Feb 2007) \| 2 lines`
`02:26.35`	`sylvanaar`	`Changed paths:`
`02:26.35`	`sylvanaar`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:26.35`	`sylvanaar`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:26.38`	`sylvanaar`	`oops`
`02:26.45`	`Barbanus`	`BAD sylvanaar!`
`02:26.56`	`sylvanaar`	`SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0`
`02:26.57`	`Gnancy`	`is Tekkub around by chance?`
`02:27.03`	`sylvanaar`	`in the optdep`
`02:27.13`	`vhaarr`	`sylvanaar: yes, that's fine.`
`02:27.21`	`sylvanaar`	`it doesnt exist tho`
`02:27.31`	`vhaarr`	`It does if you LoD SpecialEventsEmbede.`
`02:27.40`	`sylvanaar`	`but who does that`
`02:27.41`	`vhaarr`	`-d`
`02:27.55`	`vhaarr`	`sylvanaar: It doesn't matter anyway, remember the whole reason we use OptDeps.`
`02:27.57`	Funkeh`	`i do`
`02:28.08`	`vhaarr`	`sylvanaar: It's not loaded if it doesn't exist.`
`02:28.15`	`vhaarr`	`So whether or not someone uses it is irrelevant.`
`02:28.23`	`vhaarr`	`It can't be the culprit.`
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`02:28.58`	ag`	`Fin, VE/VT tracker`
`02:29.03`	`sylvanaar`	`yes but that is the event you use to trigger loading of the LoD module`
`02:29.17`	`Fin`	ag`: ooh
`02:29.20`	`vhaarr`	`sylvanaar: It also OptDeps on SpecialEventsEmbed.`
`02:29.21`	`Sapiens`	`Is oRA2 supposed to be broken right now? :o`
`02:30.00`	Funkeh`	`imo oRA2 is dependant on waterfall lib which is bad`
`02:30.07`	Funkeh`	`do you have that?`
`02:30.14`	`sylvanaar`	`what is specialeventsembed vs specialeventslib`
`02:30.21`	`Gnancy`	`Could anyone help me with an externals question`
`02:30.36`	`vhaarr`	`sylvanaar: There's no such thing as "SpecialEventsLib"`
`02:30.53`	`Sapiens`	Funkeh`: Yes, that was the first thing I fixed.
`02:31.19`	`Sapiens`	`It wasn't included in SAL so I actually had to pay attention to what BugSack was yelling about.`
`02:31.36`	Funkeh`	`it is`
`02:31.49`	`Sapiens`	`SAL got updated with Waterfall?`
`02:31.51`	`vhaarr`	`It is now, yes.`
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`02:31.57`	`Sapiens`	`Oh, neat.`
`02:31.58`	`sylvanaar`	`something isnt kosher`
`02:31.58`	`vhaarr`	`A few hours ago, I think.`
`02:31.59`	Funkeh`	`but again, oRA shouldn't be dependant on it, it should be optional`
`02:32.02`	`JJSheets`	`Anybody try the new version of Omnibus yet?`
`02:32.34`	`vhaarr`	Funkeh`: I agree.
`02:32.56`	`Fin`	`sylvanaar: incorrectly slaughtered cattle!`
`02:33.16`	Funkeh`	`ctprofiles need to add sockets...`
`02:33.36`	`Sapiens`	`Hmm.`
`02:33.41`	`Sapiens`	`Did the new SAL get pushed yet?`
`02:33.51`	Funkeh`	`huh?`
`02:34.28`	`vodrin`	Funkeh`: very yes
`02:34.45`	`vodrin`	`isn't cursegaming making a profiler aswell ?`
`02:34.56`	Funkeh`	`no idea`
`02:35.09`	Funkeh`	`i just don't like the profiles that force me to use an addon to update it`
`02:35.16`	`Fin`	`vodrin: yes`
`02:35.48`	`vodrin`	`fin: work yet ?`
`02:35.52`	`CIA-17`	`03gnancy * r28575 10FuBar_CorkFu/Libs/: FuBar_CorkFu - External Lib changes for AceLocal, BabbleClass and BabbleSpell`
`02:37.44`	`Fin`	`vodrin: no idea`
`02:38.28`	`Sapiens`	`Would posting BugSack errors for oRA2 help anything or does everyone know it's explodey? :P`
`02:38.28`	`CIA-17`	`03trh * r28576 10VanasKoS/ (VanasKoS.lua VanasKoSGUI.lua VanasKoSWarnFrame.lua):`
`02:38.28`	`CIA-17`	`VanasKoS:`
`02:38.28`	`CIA-17`	`- maybe fix for wrong classidier warnframe messages`
`02:38.28`	`CIA-17`	`- bugfix for /kadd`
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`02:39.05`	Funkeh`	`prison break ep17`
`02:39.09`	Funkeh`	`out!`
`02:40.09`	`hugo`	`ok, what is that prison break? i hear from everyone, i go watch prison break ;o`
`02:40.19`	`hugo`	`and i got nothing ;p`
`02:41.24`	Funkeh`	`http://www.fox.com/prisonbreak/`
`02:41.48`	`Bruners`	Funkeh`: thanks for the heads up! :)
`02:42.54`	`hugo`	`thx`
`02:43.15`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r28577 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:`
`02:43.15`	`CIA-17`	`DrDamage:`
`02:43.16`	`CIA-17`	`-Fix for actionbar text not hiding without another update when turning it off from the options.`
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`02:43.43`	`hugo`	`btw, anyone know if i can make bartender to pageswap like bongos ?`
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`02:44.11`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten-Laptop] by ChanServ`
`02:44.20`	Funkeh`	`yeah somehow`
`02:44.24`	`hugo`	`not like holding ctrl or alt.. but shift+up/down arrows to scroll thru bars`
`02:44.35`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ello`
`02:44.39`	Funkeh`	`hello`
`02:44.42`	`hugo`	`like i got bar1 bar2, hit shift+downarrow and they switch both to bar3 and 4`
`02:44.43`	`hugo`	`hello`
`02:44.50`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`vhaarr: any more explosions?`
`02:45.17`	ag`	`prison break is pretty nice`
`02:45.21`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r28578 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/filelist.wau: !!!StandaloneLibraries: lrn2runmakefilelist_wau.bat`
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`02:45.27`	`hugo`	`or can i make flexbar2 do that ?`
`02:45.28`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten-Laptop: http://ace.pastey.net/6876 errors on line 22`
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`02:45.45`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten-Laptop: "attempt to index a number value"`
`02:47.22`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`line 22?`
`02:47.51`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`local function __expMerge(tbl, ...)`
`02:47.53`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`?`
`02:48.23`	`vhaarr`	`no, line 22 of that pastey`
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`02:49.43`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`does it give a line number in my stuff that thats happening or is that just your error message?`
`02:49.48`	`Sapiens`	`Someone really needs to update BugSack so it stops updating every single time I run WAU. :P`
`02:50.56`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten-Laptop: no`
`02:51.58`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`downloading the patches so I can test`
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`02:52.35`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`so either SetJustifyH returns an number for some reason`
`02:52.54`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`or L is a number`
`02:55.06`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten-Laptop: No, L is a AceLocale, the code worked fine before converting it.`
`02:55.22`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`k, does SetJustifyH return a number for some unknown reason?`
`02:56.17`	`hugo`	`What is best addon for tracking damage done in raids, recap, swstats, or something else, anyone know please ? :)`
`02:56.27`	`hugo`	`most accurate`
`02:57.18`	`pb_ee1`	`Dunno for the most accurate but I would recommend SW Stats, it is highly customizable and cool to use p:`
`02:57.20`	`pb_ee1`	`:p*`
`02:58.06`	`hugo`	`think is i use recap, and someone swstats`
`02:58.12`	`hugo`	`and we're geting diff results`
`02:58.41`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I wonder how long it'll take to download burning cursade while sitting in the cafe at barnes and nobel :s`
`02:58.57`	`Tain`	`Enough time to read a few books.`
`02:59.12`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm according to the download client 4-5 hours`
`02:59.21`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`and it won't let me login to wow because I don't have BC installed`
`02:59.23`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`:s`
`02:59.28`	ag`_	`vhaarr: what other addon follows the module design that you intent to apply to Violation?`
`02:59.43`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: Well, none, really.
`02:59.51`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: Why?
`02:59.52`	`Tain`	`Yeah I tried logging in at my brother's to show him some things and he didn't have BC installed. Won't even let you log in.`
`03:00.06`	ag`_	`vhaarr: Cause I'd like to read on how to do it`
`03:00.12`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`what kinda design vhaarr?`
`03:00.26`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten-Laptop: AceModuleCore standard stuff, nothing fancy.`
`03:00.33`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ah`
`03:00.41`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: Problem is that I need to figure out how to do the communication.
`03:00.52`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: Other than that, it's a standard AceModuleCore thing.
`03:01.01`	ag`_	`vhaarr: comm between modules and core?`
`03:01.06`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: No.
`03:01.13`	ag`_	`Ah, I've never looked into AceModuleCore`
`03:01.18`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`vhaarr do a /print cheader:SetJustifyH("Left")`
`03:01.21`	ag`_	`vhaarr: between players?`
`03:01.27`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: yes
`03:01.38`	`sylvanaar`	`remote aceevents`
`03:01.39`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten-Laptop: It's probably a number.`
`03:01.59`	`JoshBorke`	`vhaarr: 5`
`03:02.04`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ya probably, I'm wondering if its my fault or if its blizz's doing`
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`03:02.23`	`vhaarr`	`JoshBorke: Despite your best efforts, you're correct! 5 is, in fact, a number!`
`03:02.32`	`JoshBorke`	`blast!`
`03:02.39`	`JoshBorke`	`j`
`03:02.46`	ag`_	`vhaarr: well we send numbers currently, but more modules = more numbers... but that order is random, so I guess you have to add prefixes so you can tell the numbers apart when received?`
`03:03.07`	`vhaarr`	ag`_: I didn't say I wanted to discuss it now.
`03:03.23`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`vhaarr, did you see my question in the other room?`
`03:03.38`	ag`_	`vhaarr: oh well.`
`03:03.44`	ag`_	`:P`
`03:04.17`	`Tain`	`hahahah Heroes rules.`
`03:04.28`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`Tain: no spoiler I havn't seen it yet`
`03:04.31`	`Xuerian`	`so.... many... advertisements.... breaks`
`03:04.40`	`Tain`	`Nope, no spoilers.`
`03:04.48`	`vhaarr`	ZealotOnAStick: ask Funkeh`
`03:04.56`	`Tain`	`There was just a, "OMGWTFBBQ!" moment is all.`
`03:05.05`	`Xuerian`	`What, that blip at the end?`
`03:05.20`	`Tain`	`Oh sorry Xuerian I watch on a slight delay on my Tivo so I can skip commercials.`
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`03:05.45`	`Xuerian`	`>_<`
`03:05.46`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`vhaarr: easiest fix is to move that call to the last position`
`03:05.48`	`syeren`	`If some people are part of an arena team, can they leave the team and make a new one :P?`
`03:05.56`	`syeren`	`In the 5v5 bracket.`
`03:05.57`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`of course then your reference is going to be anumber isntead`
`03:06.09`	`hugo`	`does Flexbar2 work? i got it loaded, but nothing in deucecommander and /flexbar /flexbar2 does nothing`
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`03:07.12`	`Tain`	`oh crap`
`03:07.14`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`http://ace.pastey.net/6886`
`03:07.16`	`JoshBorke`	`hugo: did you enable it?`
`03:07.24`	`JoshBorke`	`did you restart wow?`
`03:07.42`	`hugo`	`yeah`
`03:07.51`	`hugo`	`i download before runing wow`
`03:07.57`	`hugo`	`it's enabled`
`03:07.59`	`JoshBorke`	`flexbar2 works for otehr people`
`03:08.00`	`hugo`	`no signal`
`03:08.20`	`hugo`	`and no erros`
`03:08.23`	`hugo`	`errors*`
`03:08.50`	`hugo`	`and what is the command for flexbar, /flexbar2 ?`
`03:10.37`	`hugo`	`strange`
`03:11.17`	`hugo`	`restarted again, flexbar2 enabled, no erros, and nothing`
`03:13.11`	`hugo`	`what was the addon to look for addons loading.. Warmup ?`
`03:13.44`	`trh`	`lol.. blizzaards CHAT_MSG_FRIENDLYPLAYER = bugged as hell, messages from people whom you're in party with appear on HOSTILEPLAYER channels`
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`03:14.35`	`art3mis`	`ckk you aboot?`
`03:14.49`	`ckknight`	`not really`
`03:14.50`	`ckknight`	`in BFD`
`03:15.04`	`art3mis`	`you heard anything about the ghost pointers being broken?`
`03:15.24`	`art3mis`	`like when yer dead the onscreen that leads you to yer corpse with distance n stuff`
`03:15.59`	`art3mis`	`mine just stopped working the other dayand not a clue as to why`
`03:16.00`	`Tain`	`The solution to that is not to die.`
`03:16.12`	`art3mis`	`well obviously it took a few days to notice it ;P`
`03:16.43`	`art3mis`	`~WAU`
`03:16.45`	`purl`	`i guess wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily.`
`03:16.53`	ag`	`gn`
`03:18.05`	`art3mis`	`is taht the right one?`
`03:18.07`	`art3mis`	`hey ag`
`03:18.16`	`art3mis`	`bi bi ag`
`03:22.03`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`If I'm running both Transcriptor and combat log, is there any point to run BigWigs_Debug?`
`03:22.56`	Funkeh`	`not really no`
`03:23.18`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Were you able to find any way to put a raid icon on whoever gets Rain of Bones on them?`
`03:23.27`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`That would be super useful for Nightbane.`
`03:23.37`	Funkeh`	`no you cannot`
`03:23.48`	Funkeh`	`because people can run in and out of rain of bones`
`03:23.58`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I'm taking logs and transcripts . . . we're having a hard time figuring out who it's on.`
`03:24.08`	`art3mis`	`~beta`
`03:24.10`	`purl`	`it has been said that beta is send a mail to mailto:info@eongames.com if you want to be part of beta tests of future releases.`
`03:24.25`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Hmm. It seemed to be centered on a specific person from what we're seing right now.`
`03:24.32`	`art3mis`	`hrm whats the wau 1.7b4 link?`
`03:24.40`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`1.7 final is out.`
`03:24.58`	`art3mis`	`it's giving me that "no public version" crap for "support" addons`
`03:25.02`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`b4 would still be there, though, on the sourceforge site.`
`03:25.13`	`art3mis`	`only see b2`
`03:25.39`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`http://wowaceupdater.sf.net`
`03:26.46`	`art3mis`	`yeah 1.7 broke cart`
`03:27.27`	`art3mis`	`Cartographer_ZoneInfo - Has no public versions - Skipping`
`03:27.36`	`art3mis`	`for about 11 supporting cart plugins`
`03:28.21`	`kenlyric\|home`	`uh, that's what packages look like`
`03:29.48`	`art3mis`	`??`
`03:29.59`	`art3mis`	`it's supposed to no include 11 or so plugins?`
`03:30.01`	`art3mis`	`not`
`03:30.23`	`art3mis`	`it used to work about 4 days ago`
`03:30.27`	`art3mis`	`and now it doesnt`
`03:30.41`	`xyu`	`yeah, a few of them haven't worked for me....ever :D`
`03:30.50`	`kenlyric\|home`	`um it still updates cart.`
`03:31.10`	`art3mis`	`yeah but without those support things cart is useless`
`03:31.21`	`kenlyric\|home`	`it still updates cart with those support things.`
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`03:31.32`	`art3mis`	`its like downloading a uitframes chagner that only shows you the blizz standard`
`03:31.37`	`kenlyric\|home`	`unless it changed from b5, those messages at the end mean nothing.`
`03:31.40`	`art3mis`	`no it doesnt`
`03:31.50`	`art3mis`	`waypoints hasnt worked in a while`
`03:32.09`	`art3mis`	`neither do the instance notes/loot/bosses`
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`03:32.21`	`art3mis`	`or rather a small fraction of the instance stuff works`
`03:32.47`	`art3mis`	`let me correct what im saying`
`03:33.04`	`kenlyric\|home`	`cart_foglight was updated at 3:30 this afternoon.`
`03:33.05`	`art3mis`	`while the updater doesnt seem to update them correctly... they arent functional parts of cart`
`03:33.15`	`art3mis`	`that betteR?`
`03:33.27`	`RaydenUni`	`what is Rain of Bones?`
`03:33.35`	`art3mis`	`boss spell effect`
`03:33.51`	`art3mis`	`okay did a new "update"`
`03:33.58`	`art3mis`	`gonna check if it's functional again`
`03:34.21`	`RaydenUni`	`man i hate studying for finals`
`03:34.28`	`kenlyric\|home`	`are you sure you didn't get cought up between when they moved the folders from being inside cart folder to being outside?`
`03:34.31`	`RaydenUni`	`just let me take it cold and grade accordingly`
`03:35.05`	`kenlyric\|home`	`you might do a re-install all addons to be sure.`
`03:36.30`	Funkeh``_	`Hmm. It seemed to be centered on a specific person from what we're seing right now.`
`03:36.32`	Funkeh``_	`yes`
`03:36.37`	Funkeh``_	`but its an aoe`
`03:36.41`	Funkeh``_	`that follows the player`
`03:36.46`	Funkeh``_	`afflicting others also`
`03:37.46`	`CIA-17`	`03trh * r28579 10VanasKoS/ (Locales/enUS.lua VanasKoSGUI.lua VanasKoSWarnFrame.lua):`
`03:37.46`	`CIA-17`	`VanasKoS:`
`03:37.46`	`CIA-17`	`- compare only partymembers against HOSTILEPLAYER messages, if it matches, its not HOSTILEPLAYER`
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`03:40.04`	`art3mis`	`yeah i rm'd them all to check`
`03:40.25`	`art3mis`	`unfortunately i solo'd nether rock so now ill have to do it again to see if i die ;P`
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`03:45.36`	`art3mis`	`nope that doesnt fix it`
`03:45.56`	`art3mis`	`death waypoints still doesnt work`
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`03:48.38`	`harl\|24`	`decursive's still functionally broken for me. anyone away of it ?`
`03:49.05`	`harl\|24`	`away=aware`
`03:49.06`	`CIA-17`	`03trh * r28580 10VanasKoS/ (5 files):`
`03:49.06`	`CIA-17`	`VanasKoS:`
`03:49.06`	`CIA-17`	`- removed debug output`
`03:49.06`	`CIA-17`	`- version++`
`03:49.42`	vid`	`art3mis: i have that prob too`
`03:49.47`	vid`	`corpseway not workin :(`
`03:49.50`	`Andune`	`ping ckknight`
`03:49.52`	vid`	`and instance notes`
`03:50.09`	`ckknight`	`antiping`
`03:50.11`	`ckknight`	`in BFD`
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`03:50.35`	vid`	`corpseway actually made a way point but it came up as a garbled graphic on my screen`
`03:50.41`	vid`	`where he arrow usually is`
`03:50.48`	vid`	`and then eventually it disappeared and doesnt come back now`
`03:50.58`	`Andune`	`ckknight: it would be really cool if the /note functionality accepted a 'player' arg to just make a note at the current player position`
`03:51.08`	vid`	`i didnt try a normal waypoint to see if it was waypoints in general`
`03:51.23`	`ckknight`	`Andune: you do it`
`03:51.27`	`Andune`	`ckknight: it's quite common to find myself standing right at the exact loc of something I want to mark, and I end up hovering the mouse trying to get the exact coords.`
`03:51.42`	vid`	`you can make a note anywhere`
`03:51.45`	vid`	`and then just change the x,y`
`03:51.48`	vid`	`thats what i do usually`
`03:51.56`	vid`	`rather than trying to click precisely where i want the noet`
`03:52.21`	`Andune`	`ckknight: lol. alright, I'll pick up LUA one of these days and get right on it. Guess it's not an oft-requested feature. I'll add to my new todo list ;)`
`03:52.25`	`PHL-Chuck`	`would it be hard to add some sort of /note loc loc skull or something so u can use a specific mark?`
`03:52.39`	vid`	`but yea, like /notehere zomg phat loots here`
`03:52.47`	vid`	`or somethin would rock`
`03:53.00`	vid`	`i always wished for that in mapnotes back in the day but i got used to not having it`
`03:53.04`	`Andune`	`vid: thanks. yeah right now i just look at my loc in the bottom of the map screen and type /note x.x, y.y Blah Blah`
`03:53.30`	vid`	`not a big deal, more of a convenience factor`
`03:53.32`	`Andune`	`typeing /note player Blah Blah would just save me having to look at and hand-copy the exact loc I'm at.`
`03:54.18`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, i've been pushing that, too, don't worry`
`03:54.34`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it'll get in eventually, even if I have to do it myself`
`03:55.12`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`be back in a bit guys going back home`
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`04:08.53`	`Bruners`	`i want back the timer cool down on my buttons`
`04:09.15`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i want a pony and a million dollars`
`04:09.17`	`PHL-Chuck`	`I got a crappy 300mhz pii laptop using for irc... anyone know a very lightweight client cause firefox + chatzilla seems to be really slow on this trash`
`04:09.27`	`Bruners`	`what addon do i need ? :)`
`04:09.33`	`hyperChipmunk`	`OmniCC ?`
`04:09.57`	`Cyrez`	`Miranda IM`
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`04:10.34`	`PHL-Chuck`	`I'll check it out`
`04:10.41`	`Bruners`	`think i had omnicc`
`04:11.52`	`art3mis`	`i think i figured out why`
`04:12.10`	`art3mis`	`appearantly despite there being dirs and it laoding the plugins for cart, within the game they arent there`
`04:12.27`	`art3mis`	`no menus no enable/disable they just dont exist to cart`
`04:13.14`	`hyperChipmunk`	`did you forget to restart wow client after installing?`
`04:14.03`	`Bruners`	`thanks hyper`
`04:14.14`	`hyperChipmunk`	`soitenly`
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`04:16.22`	`Bruners`	`so there is no ace alternative to omnicc`
`04:16.24`	`Bruners`	`?`
`04:16.34`	`hyperChipmunk`	`heck i dunno =)`
`04:16.44`	`PHL-Chuck`	`the one in the tree thats ace2 caused problems for me so I went back to omni`
`04:19.03`	`Bruners`	`i wonder why thats not implementet with bartender`
`04:19.24`	`Fin`	`does anyone here use DreamChat?`
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`04:20.13`	`Bruners`	`never heard of it`
`04:21.02`	`Bruners`	`Fin: and cant find it on ui.wow, curse or wowace`
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`04:21.37`	`vodrin`	`its on wowace`
`04:21.55`	`vodrin`	`akx is working on it again afaik`
`04:22.09`	`Fin`	`Bruners: it's in the SVN`
`04:22.25`	`Fin`	`it's pure sex`
`04:22.57`	`Bruners`	`is it any good then ?`
`04:23.03`	`Fin`	`I think it will be`
`04:23.11`	`Bruners`	`what do it do then ?`
`04:23.12`	`Fin`	`actually it already is`
`04:23.16`	`Fin`	`it's a chat frame replacement`
`04:23.36`	`Bruners`	`something like cellular ?`
`04:23.46`	`Fin`	`I've not used cellular, but I think so, yes`
`04:26.13`	`ZealotOnAStick`	Funkeh``: I'm not seeing the Karazhan thread, what board is it in?
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`04:37.02`	`Bruners`	`how do "Baggins" work ?`
`04:39.12`	`ckknight`	`Hordeside, what would be the "best" race for a Warrior?`
`04:40.08`	`Bruners`	`undead for anti fear and canibalise`
`04:40.16`	`Bruners`	`orc for blood fury`
`04:40.40`	`Bruners`	`and +5 axes`
`04:41.05`	`hyperChipmunk`	`tauren for +5% hp!`
`04:41.18`	`ckknight`	`yea, they're all pimp`
`04:41.28`	`Bruners`	`i would go undead`
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`04:41.44`	`pyrrhic`	`Hello`
`04:41.47`	`ckknight`	`hey pyrrhic`
`04:42.47`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ckknight: tauren for pve, unquestioned. for pvp its up in the air`
`04:43.01`	`pyrrhic`	`So I've run into a little problem here. I'm lookin to same some information somewhere that I can find it later when not running wow but I see the io library isn't included...`
`04:43.02`	`ckknight`	`well, then stomp is useful for both`
`04:43.09`	`Bruners`	`why tauren for pvp ?`
`04:43.30`	`Gngsk`	`he said pve`
`04:43.36`	`Gngsk`	`can't beat the hp racial`
`04:43.37`	`Bruners`	`<- blind`
`04:43.39`	`Gngsk`	`for MT anyway`
`04:43.46`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`5% hp is unbeatable for tanking`
`04:44.30`	`RaydenUni`	`5% hp?`
`04:44.53`	`Bruners`	`never heard of that 5% hp thingie really`
`04:44.55`	`pyrrhic`	`Anyone konw how I might do this?`
`04:45.22`	`ckknight`	`screw it, going Tauren`
`04:45.26`	`ckknight`	`now to come up with a name`
`04:45.31`	`RaydenUni`	`warrior?`
`04:45.35`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Hoofhearted`
`04:46.51`	`RaydenUni`	`http://worldofwarcraft.com/info/races/tauren.html`
`04:46.57`	`RaydenUni`	`taurens have a passive ability of +5% health`
`04:47.13`	`pyrrhic`	`Am I in the wrong channel?`
`04:47.31`	`RaydenUni`	`this is the right channel for that i think`
`04:47.39`	`RaydenUni`	`i'm not a mod developer though`
`04:47.42`	`RaydenUni`	`so i can't help you`
`04:48.03`	`pyrrhic`	`Nice to know someone read the question :)`
`04:49.02`	`Bruners`	`hehe`
`04:49.04`	`Bruners`	`ask again`
`04:49.04`	`trh`	`is there a X-Ace category for games? i can't find one at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace2_Categories ? :)`
`04:49.33`	`pastamancer`	`SavedVariables`
`04:49.59`	`pyrrhic`	`Do you know where they're saved?`
`04:50.50`	`pastamancer`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/SavedVariables`
`04:50.56`	`trh`	`WTF\`
`04:53.12`	`pyrrhic`	`I see`
`04:53.44`	`pyrrhic`	`Well that sucks`
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`05:12.12`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r28581 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Re-enabled the outbound chat core service with added safeguards against tainting secure commands.`
`05:17.13`	`sylvanaar`	`Andune prat sorta has a feature that does what you are talking about. not sure if you use it`
`05:19.52`	`sylvanaar`	`pyrrhic you cant read or write to files directly`
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`05:20.25`	`sylvanaar`	`pyrrhic your choices are saved variables or using the blizzard chatlog`
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`05:22.55`	`Hock`	`i asked this the other night but my pc froze up and i couldn't remember the answer. what mod / mods allow you to move windows? like if i open my character window i want to move it.`
`05:23.06`	`Hock`	`i thought ct mod let you do that`
`05:23.20`	`Hock`	`but i don't see anywhere that it lets you do it anymore.`
`05:26.07`	`Fisker-`	`Hey sexy mamma wanna break prat?`
`05:26.19`	`Hock`	`does kc_mobility let you do that?`
`05:26.26`	`Hock`	`(move windows i mean)`
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`05:28.02`	`sylvanaar`	`i broke it look ^^`
`05:29.28`	`sylvanaar`	`I have no doubt that that code will break something`
`05:31.57`	`Fisker-`	`nice`
`05:31.58`	`Fisker-`	`sexy mamma`
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`05:34.08`	`Hock`	`sylvanaar, do YOU know what, if any, ace mod will let me move windows like char, faction standing, etc?`
`05:34.17`	`Hock`	`i tried kc_mobility to no avail.`
`05:35.12`	`haste`	`I think he would have answered then :)`
`05:37.02`	`ckknight`	`As I drifted further and further down, it became increasingly hard to move. All I could see when I closed my eyes was a faint, glowing, yellow hoop, slowly approaching me. If I kept my mind on it, I could drift all the way through the middle of the hoop without losing my concentration. This really felt like an achievement to me. In my mind, I built myself an imaginary trophy cabinet and awarded myself a small keepsake for each time I`
`05:37.31`	`lhunath`	`how do you dismiss a warlock pet? ;x`
`05:37.44`	`hyperChipmunk`	`hehe, sounds like douglas adams's writing`
`05:38.26`	`ckknight`	`David Firth, actually`
`05:38.34`	`hyperChipmunk`	`...depending on how absurd that sentence ends`
`05:40.34`	`hyperChipmunk`	`a city in cuba`
`05:40.36`	`hyperChipmunk`	`mis`
`05:41.04`	`ckknight`	`now let's tell it to my guild and see how they react`
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`05:42.54`	`hyperChipmunk`	`you haven't finished telling it to us`
`05:43.32`	`haste`	`for some reason this cartoon comes to mind -> http://www.xkcd.com/c208.html`
`05:45.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`woot for free epics, down the curator and didnt really have time to go learn another encounter tonight so we cleared to the chess event and 1shoted it`
`05:46.06`	`haste`	`you can solo the chess event`
`05:46.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah i know`
`05:46.33`	`nymbia`	`now go do malchezzar, he's the easiest of the stuff you can now choose to do ;)`
`05:46.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`it was a joke`
`05:46.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`everybodys already left now`
`05:47.18`	`nymbia`	`well he's not a 1-shot`
`05:47.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`what boss are the trash right after the curator linked to?`
`05:47.44`	`nymbia`	`and i guess the corpse run would be pretty brutal if you didn't have aran down`
`05:47.59`	`nymbia`	`curator... uh.. linked to aran for the most part i think`
`05:48.04`	`ckknight`	`hyperChipmunk: what do you mean? that's the end`
`05:48.21`	`haste`	`really?`
`05:48.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`ah so its probably best to go curator->aran then back track to illhoof next time`
`05:49.02`	`nymbia`	`screw illhoof`
`05:49.09`	`nymbia`	`he's a waste of time right now >.<`
`05:49.21`	`ckknight`	`http://fat-pie.com/socklops.htm <-- where it's from`
`05:49.40`	`hyperChipmunk`	`ckknight: "...aginary trophy cabinet and awarded myself a small keepsake for each time I"`
`05:49.47`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`05:49.54`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:49.56`	`nymbia`	`do aran -> malchezzar -> netherspite`
`05:49.59`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that can't be the end =P`
`05:50.07`	`hyperChipmunk`	`hehe`
`05:50.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`wheres malchezzar? after aran or after the chess event?`
`05:50.56`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: We 1shotted Aran today and were going to try Malchezaar for the first time, and then our server (and many others) went down for some reason ><`
`05:51.04`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: But I hear he is bugged if you wipe at phase 2?`
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`05:51.28`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: we never had any problems, but i've heard the same.`
`05:51.43`	`vhaarr`	`right, so it doesn't always happen, then, that's good.`
`05:52.16`	`ckknight`	`hyperChipmunk: but check out the link`
`05:53.00`	`Fisker-`	`btw ckknight`
`05:53.05`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: But yeah, we skipped Illhoof - last week we ended the raid after killing him, and tonight, we wiped 3 times then said fuck it.`
`05:53.12`	`Fisker-`	`what's the point with the colours when selecting instances in cartographer?`
`05:53.28`	`ckknight`	`friendliness and levels`
`05:53.33`	`Fisker-`	`ah`
`05:53.38`	`vhaarr`	`Really need a paladin or something at Illhoof now.`
`05:53.44`	`ckknight`	`same as ZoneInfo`
`05:53.47`	`Fisker-`	`couldn't understand why deadmines was red :P`
`05:54.13`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: yeah. we killed him second attempt before, and this week we wiped a total of 7 times between two days, never getting him below 40%, and said screw it.`
`05:54.29`	`ckknight`	`Fisker-: cause it's Alliance-tastic`
`05:54.38`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: ouch, yeah`
`05:55.48`	`Fisker-`	`oh yeah ckknight`
`05:55.54`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Fisker-: it's because you're n00b-tastic`
`05:57.39`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: it's completely worth spending the time on malchezzar.. amazing rep and loot.`
`05:57.50`	`nymbia`	`illhoof.. not so much.`
`05:59.29`	`Fisker-`	`oh hell naw hyperChipmunk`
`05:59.43`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`But Illhoof has the Hentai Staff!`
`05:59.51`	`nymbia`	`ZealotOnAStick: lol true`
`05:59.54`	`haste`	`but people don't get Hentai jokes :(`
`06:00.10`	`nymbia`	`~pity Fisker-`
`06:00.21`	`purl`	`I pity da fool Fisker-!`
`06:00.27`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: How is he compared to Aran/Curator?`
`06:00.36`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`people in my guild do.`
`06:00.40`	`haste`	`Illhoof is a one-shot :D`
`06:00.58`	`vhaarr`	`haste: He was a one-shot.`
`06:01.08`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: as far as execution difficulty, i'd say comparable to aran, just a little tougher on the healers`
`06:01.18`	`nymbia`	`haste: fought him in the past week?`
`06:01.39`	`haste`	`nope, my luck = no raid spot for this week :)`
`06:01.47`	`vhaarr`	`haste: Then you have no idea :P`
`06:01.50`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Illhoof is tough on the AE.`
`06:02.01`	`haste`	`but he was still one-shotted by the guilds worst group, so I guess he isn't a problem`
`06:02.05`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: hm, okay, multiple target healing?`
`06:02.19`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: or tank taking tons of damage`
`06:02.19`	`nymbia`	`haste: he's about 11 times harder. my guild killed him our second attempt ever, then wiped 7 times this week ;)`
`06:02.26`	`haste`	`'worst', we split them into two equal, but one is always better then the other in some way or another`
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`06:03.11`	`vhaarr`	`Aran is a heal fest, I hope it's tank only with the prince now.`
`06:03.36`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: single target. the tank only takes a lot of damage during phase two, other than that it's just a positioning fight. you get a huge room that he fills up with infernals that aoe, plus he aoes himself.. it's just a question of manuvering through it`
`06:03.39`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`We killed both Aran and Illhoof with 2 tries this week. We should have gotten Aran the first time, but I fucked up.`
`06:03.55`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`and he throws people into the chain things in the middle.`
`06:03.57`	`vhaarr`	`ZealotOnAStick: Do you have a paladin?`
`06:04.03`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Warlock.`
`06:04.26`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Paladin will be on my second account, but haven't activated that one for BC yet.`
`06:04.31`	`vhaarr`	`We have a warlock as well, but he's not destruction spec.`
`06:04.46`	`vhaarr`	`So no nether prot.`
`06:04.46`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Aff/Dest.`
`06:04.46`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`no nether prot either.`
`06:04.58`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Guild has 3 70 paladins.`
`06:05.00`	`nymbia`	`dampen magic pretty crucial too`
`06:05.11`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Seems like a tank fight, then, yeah.`
`06:05.48`	`vhaarr`	`we don't have any paladins, it sure would've been useful on Illhoof.`
`06:05.58`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: the fun part is that he drops people to 1 hp at random, so you can't afford to be sloppy on the aoes`
`06:06.05`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: yikes`
`06:06.12`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: ah, enfeeble?`
`06:06.20`	`vhaarr`	`I guess he doesn't do that to his current aggro target.`
`06:06.28`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`First, third, and 4th 70 BEs on the server.`
`06:06.33`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: yeah. it heals em back up when it fades though so no worries`
`06:06.35`	`haste`	`it would be impossible if he did vhaarr :p`
`06:06.38`	`Fisker-`	`we got 4 level 70 paladins`
`06:06.42`	`Fisker-`	`although one might get kicked soon`
`06:06.45`	`vhaarr`	`haste: ye :P`
`06:06.52`	`vhaarr`	`haste: Which is why I guessed as much.`
`06:07.33`	`vhaarr`	`haha @ http://www.xkcd.com/c208.html`
`06:07.36`	`vhaarr`	`don't remember who pasted it`
`06:08.28`	`haste`	`vhaarr: Since I know you work some on CBRipoff; You can fix the choppings (I'm guessing you have those as it's basically oCB), by going from 0 to 1 instead of going from startTime to endTime.`
`06:08.45`	`hyperChipmunk`	`lol that's hilarious`
`06:08.47`	`haste`	`and I'm going afk for 3-4 hours`
`06:11.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`>Perl!<`
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`06:12.59`	`hyperChipmunk`	`mis`
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`06:17.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`all of xkcd is great, really`
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`06:24.01`	`OverloadUT`	`Whoa`
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`06:24.01`	`hyperChipmunk`	`he'll be back`
`06:24.02`	`hyperChipmunk`	`mis`
`06:24.02`	`hyperChipmunk`	`gr`
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`06:29.24`	`Bruners`	`anyone know how to get baggins to replace the regular bags?`
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`06:46.57`	`OverloadUT`	`Does anyone here know much about RegisterMemoizations?`
`06:47.04`	`neenee`	`Bruners: They already do that by default I think`
`06:47.20`	`OverloadUT`	`In AceComm I mean`
`06:47.43`	`vhaarr`	`OverloadUT: What about it?`
`06:48.14`	`OverloadUT`	`vhaarr: I am wondering if the memorizations will properly memorize strings that are inside a table I am sending, or if I have to split it out`
`06:49.43`	`Bruners`	`neenee: aint working here`
`06:49.49`	`Bruners`	`only bankframe gets replaced`
`06:50.07`	`vhaarr`	`OverloadUT: yeah, it should do that.`
`06:50.22`	`OverloadUT`	`Okay, thanks. AceComm sure does make this easy!`
`06:52.39`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Bruners: baggins doesnt replace the normal bags.`
`06:52.56`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Bruners: but you can bind "B" or whatever you want to baggins`
`06:53.09`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`and thats basically the same thing`
`06:53.11`	`OverloadUT`	`The day I found baggins was a happy day.`
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`06:57.24`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r28582 10Links/Links.toc:`
`06:57.24`	`CIA-17`	`Links:`
`06:57.24`	`CIA-17`	`- Corrected X-Category toc entry`
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`06:59.03`	`OverloadUT`	`Can someone clarify for me how OnCommReceive works when you define it as a table instead of a function?`
`07:01.07`	`vhaarr`	`OverloadUT: Perhaps you should actually read the API docs.`
`07:01.35`	`OverloadUT`	`vhaarr: I am. My question is not answered as far as I can tell.`
`07:01.41`	`vhaarr`	`It is.`
`07:01.54`	`vhaarr`	`http://wowace.com/wiki/AceComm-2.0#Example_2`
`07:02.08`	`OverloadUT`	`Yes I am looking at that.`
`07:02.27`	`OverloadUT`	`The one thing it does not mention`
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`07:02.35`	`OverloadUT`	`Is how it chooses to use Command1 or Command2`
`07:02.48`	`Bruners`	`can baggins bank frame be opened outside ?`
`07:03.03`	`OverloadUT`	`From looking at Cart_Notes it appears to use the first var sent, but that's not documented`
`07:03.21`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Bruners: you mean away from the bank? no`
`07:03.27`	`Bruners`	`damn`
`07:03.31`	`art3mis`	`so seeing as how i missed it prolly, why does waypoints for cart have a dir, show as loaded in the addon startup list, list in the ingame addons list but not actually apepar at all in cart in game?`
`07:03.49`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r28583 10Prat/modules/Substitutions.lua: Prat: Provide a menu, that shows the current values of the tokens, and lets you paste them into the chat editbox by clicking on them`
`07:03.49`	`art3mis`	`none of the "moved outside ones" seem to function anymore`
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`07:04.01`	`vhaarr`	`OverloadUT: That's right, add that to the wiki, please.`
`07:04.33`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r28584 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Core changed related to previous commit`
`07:06.35`	`art3mis`	`in the toc can you use ..\dirname\filename.lua ?`
`07:06.53`	`OverloadUT`	`Okay, I added it but I think I worded it like crap :`
`07:06.54`	`OverloadUT`	`:?`
`07:07.01`	`OverloadUT`	`Gah I can't type :/`
`07:07.51`	`sylvanaar`	`im sure i am somehow to blame`
`07:09.24`	`vhaarr`	`OverloadUT: Alright, I fixed it.`
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`07:10.04`	`OverloadUT`	`vhaarr: Ah, that's a much better way to do it. And in fact it was what I was looking for when trying to figure it out. Gah it's too late for me :P`
`07:11.16`	`hyperChipmunk`	`aww`
`07:11.18`	`hyperChipmunk`	`mis`
`07:13.15`	`vhaarr`	`hyperChipmunk: lol`
`07:13.22`	`hyperChipmunk`	`shup`
`07:13.29`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i friggin' tired`
`07:13.33`	`vhaarr`	`^^`
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`07:52.34`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r28585 10Prat/modules/Substitutions.lua: Prat: remove extra table creation from dynamic menus`
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`08:04.55`	`Silviu-`	`sylvanaar , ping ;p`
`08:05.06`	`Silviu-`	`sylvanaar http://ace.pastey.net/6894`
`08:08.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`baked acorn squash are the win.`
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`08:09.13`	`ArcaneTrickster`	`morning`
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`08:14.12`	`wobin`	`hokay`
`08:14.19`	`wobin`	`I'm looking for some nice looking textures`
`08:14.25`	`wobin`	`round, liquid looking buttons`
`08:14.33`	`wobin`	`any ideas where I could find some?`
`08:14.46`	`SunTiger`	`vista`
`08:14.57`	`wobin`	`For WoW`
`08:15.06`	`wobin`	`ps, Do you have Vista?`
`08:15.19`	`SunTiger`	`no i do no have vista`
`08:15.33`	`SunTiger`	`i will have vista when it takes LESS resources the my GAMES`
`08:15.58`	`Fisker-`	`Performance seems just as good with Aero than without`
`08:16.09`	`Fisker-`	`although running standalone it'll use more than xp`
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`08:17.59`	`JJSheets`	`man that was fun... Nothing like gaffing for a Photographer on a nude photo shoot. :)`
`08:18.39`	`JJSheets`	`'course sometimes you get too distracted to hold lights correctly...`
`08:19.01`	`Fisker-`	`you're in the DANGER zone :O`
`08:19.13`	`JJSheets`	`O.o`
`08:22.41`	`krka`	`morning`
`08:22.47`	`JJSheets`	`heya`
`08:23.14`	`CIA-17`	`03anea * r28586 10SpamSentry/GoAway.mp3:`
`08:23.14`	`CIA-17`	`SpamSentry:`
`08:23.14`	`CIA-17`	`- Deleted left-behind file`
`08:23.42`	`JJSheets`	`krka, I'm gonna test some changes to my version of FAIAP real quick, and if they work I'll send you a patch.`
`08:23.53`	`wobin`	`JJSheets: For a second there I thought 'gaffing' was a euphanism =P`
`08:23.58`	`krka`	`cool`
`08:24.10`	`JJSheets`	`wobin, lol no, but it does invoolve holding poles...`
`08:24.36`	`wobin`	`It's all about the wrist action =P`
`08:24.40`	`JJSheets`	`indeed`
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`08:25.02`	`dotted`	`hmm kinky, vista UI skin for WoW`
`08:25.08`	`dotted`	`that would rock`
`08:27.21`	`Silviu-`	wobin if the minimap icon in waypoints it`s not enabled then when i do /way 50,50 it won`t show a cross on map
`08:29.33`	`nee\|work`	`Hm. Does anyone here know of a way to use google to search the WoW EU/US forums?`
`08:31.43`	`Medlir`	`Go to google... put in a search term and add on site:forums.worldofwarcraft.com`
`08:31.44`	`Medlir`	`?`
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`08:32.55`	`Fisker-`	`Can anyone confirm if you start out friendly or neutral with Scryers/Aldor?`
`08:33.03`	`snurre`	`neutral`
`08:33.05`	`Fisker-`	`My paladin is friendly with scryers and hostile with aldor`
`08:33.07`	`Fisker-`	`wtf`
`08:33.14`	`snurre`	`first quest brings you to friendly/hostile`
`08:33.20`	`Fisker-`	`i can't take the quest`
`08:33.27`	`snurre`	`then youve done it`
`08:33.28`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`did you bind in the scryer in? that will automagically ally you`
`08:33.29`	`Fisker-`	`i'm not level 60 or whatever i'm supposed to be to take it`
`08:33.31`	`Fisker-`	`no i'm not`
`08:33.32`	`nee\|work`	`Medlir: Ah, let me try that`
`08:33.34`	`Fisker-`	`lol`
`08:33.39`	`Fisker-`	`silly shit NightHawkTheSane :/`
`08:33.39`	`JJSheets`	`krka, http://ace.pastey.net/6895`
`08:33.58`	`JJSheets`	`krka, that resets masbytes and maxlines properly.`
`08:34.09`	`JJSheets`	`s/masbytes/maxbytes`
`08:34.19`	`nee\|work`	`Medlir: That does it, thanks :)`
`08:34.30`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Fisker-: yeah, they should at least warn you :\`
`08:34.34`	`snurre`	`hm`
`08:35.25`	`snurre`	`im running dualscreen, but i cant figure out how to put my wow to the other screen.. im playing in windowed maximized (fullscreen without overlay), but it will only run on the same screen i have chosen as my main (same as start bar etc)`
`08:35.32`	`nymbia`	`i think they do warn you, but if you're clicking through trying to accept a quest, it's easy to miss the warning, since it's an insta-complete quest`
`08:35.57`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`nymbia: i'm talking about binding at the scryer or aldor inn`
`08:36.06`	`nymbia`	`NightHawkTheSane: oh lol`
`08:36.14`	`tlund`	`Fisker-: what race is your paladin?`
`08:36.27`	`snurre`	`it's the same as was the problem with the brood of nozdormu quests, where there was only a complete button, so people just clicked it without reading`
`08:36.45`	`krka`	`JJSheets: i'll take a look at it`
`08:36.52`	`Iceroth`	`snurre, i think there was some instructions on wow tech support forums or some similar`
`08:36.55`	`krka`	`does it work btw?`
`08:36.57`	`nymbia`	`snurre: but the names on those are so very.. obvious`
`08:37.16`	`Fisker-`	`tlund blood elf of course :P`
`08:37.21`	`JJSheets`	`krka, yes I tested those changes previously and I'm having no problems with it.`
`08:37.22`	`snurre`	`nymbia: orly, you wouldnt believe how many people still chose the wrong rewrad`
`08:37.24`	`snurre`	`reward*`
`08:37.31`	`tlund`	`Fisker-: then you start out friendly with scryers.`
`08:37.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`snurre: if they dont stop to read, its their own damn fault :P`
`08:37.34`	`snurre`	`infact, the same is the case for the Violet Paths atm`
`08:37.42`	`tlund`	`Fisker-: you know, bloodelfs.`
`08:37.43`	`snurre`	`a TON of players choose wrong rewards`
`08:37.46`	`snurre`	`hundreds each day`
`08:38.01`	`Fisker-`	`hmm alright`
`08:38.03`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`there's a lot of stupid people out there :)`
`08:38.07`	`Fisker-`	`gonna ask anyways`
`08:38.09`	`nymbia`	`snurre: i know. i'm just saying, it's their own fault. they're like.. HEY I GOT 3 QUESTS LEMME ACCEPT EM ALL!`
`08:38.25`	`snurre`	`nymbia: i know, that's my opinion too :p`
`08:38.45`	`Iceroth`	`same as with me and druid tanking gear.. "it's green, i have purplez, vendoooor"`
`08:39.00`	`Iceroth`	`too bad those greens were/are the best druid tonk gear in game >.<`
`08:39.13`	`snurre`	`lol pwnd`
`08:39.14`	`Iceroth`	`from shadowmoon valley quests`
`08:43.08`	`snurre`	`so anyone got a clue about dualscreen and wow?`
`08:43.55`	`krka`	`what does editbox:SetMaxLetters(0) do?`
`08:44.09`	`krka`	`is it possible that i dont need to set it in the first place?`
`08:44.44`	`JJSheets`	`it is remotely possible. setmaxletters(0) tells wow to not limit the number of letters at all.`
`08:45.02`	`nymbia`	`the default is probably 255 or something`
`08:45.07`	`krka`	`so... could you try getting rid of all such code, and see how it works?`
`08:45.10`	`nee\|work`	`huzzah. Now I can just type 'w keyword' to search the wow forums in opera :)`
`08:45.23`	`nee\|work`	`I'll make a we for europe and a wu for US :)`
`08:45.25`	`JJSheets`	`krka, yeah, lemme finish this quest :)`
`08:45.26`	`krka`	`or, just set it to 0 once, and then forget about it`
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`08:45.33`	`krka`	`no! do it NOW!`
`08:45.35`	`SunTiger`	`i am disapointed in a 139 spam mail i only had one penis enlargement mail!`
`08:45.36`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`08:46.08`	`krka`	`i'll implement that change then, and also implement a safer unhooking + fixing a small cache bug i noticed`
`08:47.05`	`JJSheets`	`k`
`08:47.10`	`krka`	`what's fakenil?`
`08:47.46`	`krka`	`if you'd like, i could give you full control of FAIAP`
`08:47.57`	`JJSheets`	`unimportant... you can eliminate fakenil`
`08:48.40`	`Iceroth`	`i'm getting shitloads of investment tips to the mail address i have in icehud's .toc file... does that mean you can get rich by writing addons?`
`08:48.52`	`JJSheets`	`If I knew all the details I'd take it over... but I don't. I'm more than willing to be defacto guinea pig tho`
`08:49.24`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`how do you leave a pvp team?`
`08:49.33`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`like, whats the slash command?`
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`08:50.20`	`vhaarr`	`krka: I think you/someone should upload it to the WoWAce SVN, it's a lot simpler for people to get involved, then.`
`08:50.24`	`vhaarr`	`I know I feel that way, at least.`
`08:50.59`	`ckknight`	`Cart-Waypoints request - right-click on the map, set as waypoint`
`08:51.01`	`ckknight`	`without a note`
`08:51.04`	`krka`	`it doesn't use Ace in any way`
`08:51.30`	`vhaarr`	`krka: Doesn't matter.`
`08:51.46`	`krka`	`really?`
`08:51.50`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`08:51.59`	`krka`	`i could swear i read something about that somewhere`
`08:52.11`	`vhaarr`	`nah, it's just humbug to scare away newbies`
`08:52.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`heh, nope`
`08:52.17`	`hyperChipmunk`	`lol`
`08:52.26`	`JJSheets`	`lol vhaarr`
`08:52.30`	`hyperChipmunk`	`heck, we throw all sorts of stuff up there`
`08:52.42`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`08:52.44`	`hyperChipmunk`	`shell scripts, patch torrents`
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`08:52.57`	`ckknight`	`the SVN isn't Ace/Ace2 specific, just community-specific, really`
`08:53.09`	`ckknight`	`and due to you being in the channel, you're community enough`
`08:53.32`	`vhaarr`	`krka: Anyway, some people might be less inclined to contribute because "ace people are so stupid and arrogant", but all those stupid and arrogant Ace people will at least be more inclined to contribute.`
`08:53.50`	`hyperChipmunk`	`at one point we even threw wobin on the svn, but he broke the case and we had to get a new one =\`
`08:53.50`	`JJSheets`	`Ace people are stupid? bwahahahahahaha`
`08:53.58`	`wobin`	`ckknight: hm, what's the easiest way to hook that click?`
`08:54.02`	`wobin`	`It's true.`
`08:54.11`	`wobin`	`I was carrying a ten ton weight, though`
`08:54.12`	`JJSheets`	`okay... I'm gonna work on thse changes now krka`
`08:54.12`	`ckknight`	`wobin: not sure`
`08:54.17`	`krka`	`cool JJSheets`
`08:54.19`	`wobin`	`Mrs Munk was tired of hefting him`
`08:54.28`	`hyperChipmunk`	`>8O`
`08:54.50`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it's still Miss, and she prefers the term "Chickmunk", tyvm`
`08:54.59`	`wobin`	`Mz Munk?`
`08:55.20`	`SunTiger`	`pics or it did not happen`
`08:55.28`	`JJSheets`	`rofl`
`08:55.32`	`hyperChipmunk`	`O_o haha`
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`08:55.52`	`SunTiger`	`i'm sure i could work in a few more meme's if i really wanted to`
`08:55.57`	`SunTiger`	`but i'm to lazy for that`
`08:56.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`stop while you're ahead`
`08:56.11`	`JJSheets`	`krka, what's the small cache bug you noticed, and what's the safer unhooking method? :)`
`08:56.14`	`wobin`	`Jesus christ it's a tiger, get in the car?`
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`08:56.39`	`SunTiger`	`Jesus christ is a car, get in the tiger!`
`08:56.55`	`krka`	`JJSheets: i'll show you later :)`
`08:56.58`	`wobin`	`How do we start this thing?`
`08:57.01`	`hyperChipmunk`	`wobin, that's the sissy asian culture speaking; you disrespect your Aussie spirit`
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`08:57.30`	`wobin`	`too right`
`08:57.33`	`wobin`	`mate =P`
`08:57.38`	`wobin`	`She'll be apples`
`08:58.02`	`SunTiger`	`what the hell does THAT mean ?`
`08:58.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`roit, naw git at thayt tigah, mate`
`08:58.31`	`wobin`	`Basically "Everything will be fine"`
`08:58.39`	`wobin`	`Crikey!`
`08:58.48`	`SunTiger`	`damn ausies`
`08:58.57`	`JJSheets`	`good on ya, mate`
`08:59.12`	`wobin`	`hooroo`
`08:59.13`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i think the oz gov't gets together and plans phrases like that`
`08:59.25`	`wobin`	`ha, like they have the intelligence =P`
`08:59.32`	`art3mis`	`yay i fixed cart!`
`08:59.34`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it's probably part of their election campaign agendas`
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`08:59.50`	`wobin`	`Our election criteria is usually "Which is the lesser of the evils?"`
`09:00.02`	`krka`	`JJSheets: do you still want to use your "own" version of FAIAP or will you be able to use the regular version once it's patched?`
`09:00.16`	`wobin`	`Since we don't actually elect the prime minister, only the party`
`09:00.16`	`art3mis`	`delete allt eh cart dirs, leech it.. then delete the content of the cartographer dir and WAU update witout externals`
`09:00.29`	`art3mis`	`and then turn on the waypouints death pointers ;P`
`09:00.30`	`JJSheets`	`krka, the setmaxbytes and setmaxletters stuff should stay in I think... and Once the main version is patched I'll be quite capable of switching it over.`
`09:00.33`	`art3mis`	`tada all fixed!`
`09:00.46`	`hyperChipmunk`	`"naw ovah heah, I gawt my proposals foh some new awzie phrases"`
`09:00.47`	`wobin`	`You fixed the texture issue?`
`09:00.56`	`SunTiger`	`hey to talk about code and addons in our offtopicness!`
`09:00.59`	`wobin`	`irt DeathPoint?`
`09:01.07`	`krka`	`setmaxletter stay in? why?`
`09:01.27`	`krka`	`afaik, it seems likt it should be enough to set both to 0 upon hooking`
`09:01.41`	`krka`	`possibly storing the old value and resetting when disabling`
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`09:01.54`	`hyperChipmunk`	`"mah fuhst one is: 'in tha beehoive with er grandmotha'"`
`09:02.03`	`JJSheets`	`hmmm... I'll try that too... lemme funk about with it some more...`
`09:02.08`	`wobin`	`Man, you'd make a lousy aussie, Hyper =P`
`09:02.09`	`hyperChipmunk`	`polls go up 4 points`
`09:02.33`	`wobin`	`It'd be more like something like "Madder than a bee with a granny in it's bonnet"`
`09:02.44`	`hyperChipmunk`	`can't be worse than you`
`09:02.45`	`hyperChipmunk`	`haha`
`09:03.14`	`hyperChipmunk`	`see, you'd probably be president`
`09:03.25`	`hyperChipmunk`	`or Tribal Chief, whatever you have there`
`09:03.41`	`SunTiger`	`prime minister i bet.`
`09:04.04`	`wobin`	`yeah`
`09:04.18`	`wobin`	`Although the political party that gets in power gets to choose the PM`
`09:04.40`	`hyperChipmunk`	`"the bloke wut gawt tha hottest wife"`
`09:04.43`	`wobin`	`Cause if it went by popularity process, we'd probably get Bert Newton as PM`
`09:04.59`	`SunTiger`	`who in the names of the seven hells is that ?`
`09:05.37`	`wobin`	`http://www.smigit.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/bert.JPG`
`09:05.54`	`wobin`	`That's possibly before his recent face... lift`
`09:06.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`crikey`
`09:06.12`	`wobin`	`(whereby in where I say lift, it's more of a space elevator)`
`09:06.15`	`SunTiger`	`face, transplant would be better`
`09:06.24`	`JJSheets`	`okay krka, commenting out all calls to the local function setMaxBytes (defined line 897-ish) and only setting maxlines and bytes to 0 on add and removeSmartCode seems to be working perfectly...`
`09:06.31`	`krka`	`nice!`
`09:07.05`	`krka`	`so... the double/half-code bugs seem to be all solved, just due to setting max bytes and letters?`
`09:07.16`	`krka`	`that's a nice clean fix, if sop`
`09:07.18`	`hyperChipmunk`	`JJSheets, krka: take it outside!`
`09:07.19`	`krka`	`*so`
`09:07.39`	`JJSheets`	`??? this is the #wowace channel right? :p`
`09:07.42`	`hyperChipmunk`	`can't you see we're having a serious discussion here?`
`09:07.47`	`JJSheets`	`bwahahahahahahahahaha`
`09:07.48`	`krka`	`sorry to interrupt your very on topic discussion :(`
`09:07.51`	`nymbia`	`lol`
`09:08.04`	`Iceroth`	`:p`
`09:08.28`	`SunTiger`	`i aprove of this topic`
`09:08.36`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i had wobin in the throes of mental breakdown and humiliation`
`09:08.39`	`JJSheets`	`krka, you mention a cache bug, might that be duplicating stuff, or am I being overly hopeful? and I think the duplicating stuff may have been caused by my code outside of indent.lua.`
`09:09.10`	`JJSheets`	`hyperChipmunk, Good on ya, mate!`
`09:09.11`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yer breakin' my rhythm`
`09:09.20`	`JJSheets`	`well...`
`09:09.27`	`JJSheets`	`Good on me, mate then....`
`09:09.44`	`hyperChipmunk`	`np, she's all mangos`
`09:10.03`	`JJSheets`	`okay... the only Aussie slang I know is good on ya. :p`
`09:10.15`	`JJSheets`	`but I think I catch your drift...`
`09:10.37`	`hyperChipmunk`	`clearly you should have been paying more attention to the topic at-hand instead of jibbering off with that other crap`
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`09:10.45`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`09:10.49`	`krka`	`JJSheets: nah, it's nothing serious`
`09:10.55`	`nee\|work`	`http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/want.jpg hehe`
`09:11.06`	`hyperChipmunk`	`wow, quick afk there`
`09:11.13`	`krka`	`basically, i keep a cache of the text in editboxes, and i tried to make it weak, so the GC can collect it`
`09:11.34`	`krka`	`however, i made it weak on values, and the values are strings... and the weak reference doesn't work on strings`
`09:11.42`	`krka`	`i think`
`09:11.45`	`wobin`	`hm, UIQuery seems useful...`
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`09:12.09`	`JJSheets`	`hmmmm... my Weak Table Fu is weak...`
`09:12.39`	`krka`	`mine too`
`09:12.43`	`krka`	`but it's getting stronger`
`09:12.47`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`09:12.50`	`mitch0`	`:)`
`09:15.15`	`nee\|work`	`http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/valentine.jpg <-- hehe. I wish I would have thought of that.`
`09:15.51`	`JJSheets`	`krka, I've only seen duplication once since it got fixed. I'm almost certain it's my code that bugged it, but it may have been the setmaxbytes stuff. I'll let you know if I ever see it again.`
`09:17.45`	`krka`	`ok`
`09:19.11`	`nee\|work`	`http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/in_the_trees.jpg`
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`09:19.47`	`nee\|work`	`egh, whoever linked that site this morning... grr.`
`09:20.01`	`Sole`	`hi`
`09:20.07`	`nee\|work`	`Hi Sole`
`09:20.40`	`nee\|work`	`As in, of a shoe, having a singular purpose, or being alone?`
`09:20.47`	`Sole`	`hm, someone gimme a good addon idea`
`09:21.11`	`Sole`	`no I pretty much just liked the name and I had to pick one`
`09:21.20`	`nee\|work`	`Make one that causes other addons to use 50% less resources.`
`09:21.30`	`Sole`	`I actually only realised it was a deriative of 'soul' after I made my character`
`09:21.31`	`nee\|work`	`Okidoki`
`09:21.36`	`nee\|work`	`:)`
`09:21.38`	`Sole`	`realised it was kinda cheesy but oh well`
`09:22.02`	`snurre`	`is ebb2 ever coming btw?`
`09:22.13`	`Sole`	`dunno`
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`09:22.30`	`snurre`	`kinda miss the ability to change its skin`
`09:22.38`	`snurre`	`as it's reset to the ugly default by WAU`
`09:22.47`	`snurre`	`(when being lazy)`
`09:22.56`	`nee\|work`	`What is ebb2?`
`09:22.59`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r28587 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: error reported ffs, disabled again for now.`
`09:23.00`	`snurre`	`elkbuffbar`
`09:23.43`	`nee\|work`	`Ah.`
`09:23.44`	`Fisker-`	`sounds like sylvanaar broke something`
`09:23.49`	`sylvanaar`	`he did`
`09:23.55`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
`09:23.57`	`nee\|work`	`:)`
`09:24.01`	`JJSheets`	`night ya'll I got work tomorrow. :)`
`09:24.02`	`Iceroth`	`bring the torches!`
`09:24.36`	`Sole`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=60766308&sid=1 LOL this guy wins`
`09:25.38`	`mitch0`	`just a quick question: if I want to hide the petbar permanently, is it enough to :Hide() it once? or is there some other method for this stuff?`
`09:26.03`	`sylvanaar`	`chat mods are difficult creatures,`
`09:26.04`	`nee\|work`	`gnite JJSheets`
`09:26.31`	`nee\|work`	`sylvanaar: It seems they feed on time and lack of sleep.`
`09:26.58`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, something like that`
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`09:28.12`	`nee\|work`	`sylvanaar: egh, well-written, but quite weird :)`
`09:29.14`	`nee\|work`	`er`
`09:29.21`	`nee\|work`	`Yes, that goes for Prat too`
`09:29.21`	`nee\|work`	`:)`
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`09:31.29`	`sylvanaar`	`this is an especially difficult bit to add because where things were only worried about input now have to deal with output too`
`09:32.30`	`Iceroth`	`mitch0, with that, it stays hidden 'till you load your ui next time`
`09:32.52`	`Iceroth`	`and Sole, lol at that story (tho my gf didn't quite appreciate it :p)`
`09:32.56`	`mitch0`	`Iceroth: wouldn't pet summon :Show() it again?`
`09:33.06`	`mitch0`	`(I'm a mage, so it's about the WE pet bar)`
`09:33.34`	`Iceroth`	`hmm, that's possible too i suppose... petbar:UnregisterAllEvents() should get rid of that problem though`
`09:33.37`	`Sole`	`Iceroth: that story made my day :D`
`09:33.48`	`Sole`	`as you can guess, it doesnt take much to make me happy kek`
`09:33.50`	`jjb_`	`good morning`
`09:33.58`	`Sole`	`hai2ufrend`
`09:33.58`	`mitch0`	`Iceroth: but then /click PetActionBar5 wouldn't work either, or would it?`
`09:34.31`	`Iceroth`	`it should, clicks aren't events in that sense`
`09:34.45`	`mitch0`	`ok, thanks`
`09:35.37`	`mitch0`	`but I guess if I do UnregisterAllEvents(), it's pretty hard to make everything back to normal withoug /reloadui, right?`
`09:35.37`	`Iceroth`	`well if you want to play it safe, find the event that is fired when pet is summoned and unregister only that`
`09:35.37`	`mitch0`	`yeah, sounds cleaner`
`09:36.21`	`Iceroth`	`and ye, that unregister all can be a bit dangerous at times, especially if blizz code changes and they add some new even which you don't reregister`
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`09:37.12`	`Sole`	`hey whats this new secure pie stuff?`
`09:37.24`	`Wobin`	`I'd like to know too`
`09:37.39`	`Wobin`	`Also, how does one lock off an addon to being 'live' on WAU/SVN?`
`09:37.39`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r28588 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: looks like it was only a typo.`
`09:37.41`	`Iceroth`	`it's that kind of pie your mom bakes and tells you not to touch`
`09:37.57`	`Wobin`	`Bah`
`09:37.59`	`Wobin`	`That's not very secure`
`09:38.19`	`Sole`	`that kind of pie is always half eaten before most people get to it`
`09:38.20`	`Iceroth`	`it can be if your mom is scary`
`09:38.21`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`its guarded by dogs. with bees in their mouths`
`09:38.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`so when they bite you they shoot bees at you`
`09:38.28`	`Sole`	`psh`
`09:38.38`	`Sole`	`you can get past a dog, but nobody fucks with a lion`
`09:38.40`	`snurre`	`weird, my chronometer suddenly stopped working`
`09:38.56`	`Sole`	`guess nobody has seen grandma's boy :(`
`09:39.05`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`clearly you were not here earlier`
`09:39.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Sole: apparently no one caught that simpsons reference either.`
`09:39.28`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`wobin was flexing his aussie might`
`09:39.58`	`Iceroth`	`if anyone has read the hitchhiker's guide to galaxy, the road constructions plans were secure in that basemet with broken stairs and lion guarding them`
`09:40.04`	`nee\|work`	`NightHawkTheSane: The bee-cannon?`
`09:40.17`	`nee\|work`	`Oh wait`
`09:40.18`	`nee\|work`	`no`
`09:40.43`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`no`
`09:40.45`	`nee\|work`	`hides`
`09:40.46`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`there was no lion`
`09:40.47`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Iceroth: i believe it was a panther, or some other type of cat`
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`09:40.56`	`Iceroth`	`yeah i was thinking the same`
`09:41.00`	`Iceroth`	`tiger or something`
`09:41.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`not a lion though`
`09:41.16`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`they were hidden away in a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door, saying "Beware of the Leopard"`
`09:41.22`	`sylvanaar`	`Wobin were you asking a serious question?`
`09:41.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`leopard, that wa sit`
`09:41.54`	`Sole`	`hmm I think I got me a project`
`09:41.57`	`snurre`	`are there any alternatives for Chronometer?`
`09:41.58`	`Sole`	`POPBARS!`
`09:42.08`	`Sole`	`it pains me to say this....NECB`
`09:42.09`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ooh, you wanta project, i have a project!`
`09:42.19`	`Wobin`	`sylvanaar: yes =)`
`09:42.20`	`snurre`	`necb? youre kidding right? :p`
`09:42.25`	`Wobin`	`(surprise =P)`
`09:42.32`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i'd like to see a better version of satrina's combatmonitor`
`09:42.36`	`Sole`	`snurre: I wrote an addon to replace NECB, forget what I said`
`09:42.45`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`snurre: for enemy castbars or for stuff like debuff durations?`
`09:42.45`	`Sole`	`snurre: just fix your chrono!`
`09:43.00`	`snurre`	`Aens\|Superiority: debuff durations`
`09:43.02`	`Wobin`	`hah, I see you polishing your Star Trek collectors edition plates, Hyper`
`09:43.10`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`snurre: cause i find Sorren's Timers to be amazing for keeping track of things like sheep, root, hots`
`09:43.11`	`sylvanaar`	`Wobin what was it? how do you lock something off? what do you mean`
`09:43.21`	`Wobin`	`What is this I hear about secure pie?`
`09:43.24`	`snurre`	`Sole: 'sif i know how to add colour pickers and stuff to the config :p`
`09:43.24`	`Wobin`	`(s)`
`09:43.28`	`Wobin`	`as in wtf?`
`09:43.38`	`snurre`	`Aens\|Superiority: lock dots, fear and stuff too?`
`09:43.40`	`Wobin`	`oh and the other thing`
`09:43.41`	`Iceroth`	`"On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them." - "Ah, well the lights had probably gone." - "So had the stairs."`
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`09:43.46`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`snurre: if you are the lock, yes`
`09:43.49`	`Sole`	`snurre: color pickers are kinda simple with a dewdrop menu`
`09:43.55`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`doesn't keep track of stuff placed on you by others`
`09:44.01`	`Sole`	`snurre: very simple actually`
`09:44.02`	`Wobin`	`as in I've seen posts on the board with WAU stating "not a live version" or somesuch`
`09:44.16`	`snurre`	`Sole: im sure they are.. if you know any lua.. im just here to test addons, whine and give (mostly crap) feedback :p`
`09:44.22`	`snurre`	`oh, and request features`
`09:44.23`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`I use it on my druid and I use it to keep track of my hots, my roots/cyclone, mangle, faerie fire.`
`09:44.38`	`Sole`	`snurre: lol just copy/paste from some other addon then :P`
`09:44.39`	`sylvanaar`	`oh, it means that the mod isnt on the svn as an individual mod`
`09:44.50`	`Wobin`	`it's a package?`
`09:44.52`	`snurre`	`Aens\|Superiority: cool, ill try it`
`09:44.52`	`Iceroth`	`chronometer tracks all kind of stuff i couldn't care less like ff, rake, rip, demo roar`
`09:45.03`	`Iceroth`	`incredibly spammy`
`09:45.15`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`yeah`
`09:45.15`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`so comment 'em out`
`09:45.26`	`snurre`	`i commented out stuff like battleshout on my warr`
`09:45.30`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`in terms of bars`
`09:45.30`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`the class configs are pretty self-explanatory`
`09:45.43`	`snurre`	`works sortof fine with my lock too... but just suddenly stopped working now when i relogged.. and kinda icky to config`
`09:45.44`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`I use bigwigs for raids`
`09:45.49`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`i even added some, for some of my traps`
`09:45.51`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`sorren's timers for my own abilities`
`09:45.56`	`snurre`	`yeh.. i just want my dot/fear/banish timers`
`09:45.58`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`and all I need now is 5man bigwigs`
`09:46.01`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`cuz the timers were wrong`
`09:46.05`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`which might mean vendetta -_-`
`09:46.06`	`sylvanaar`	`its safe to ignore for the contents of packages`
`09:46.13`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`snurre: definitely sorren's timers then.`
`09:46.20`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`SmallWigs`
`09:46.27`	`Wobin`	`Toupee`
`09:46.27`	`sylvanaar`	`Toupee`
`09:46.29`	`Wobin`	`hehe`
`09:46.31`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`hehe`
`09:46.40`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`there is one?`
`09:46.48`	`Wobin`	`Not afaik =P`
`09:46.54`	`Wobin`	`I was just making names up =P`
`09:46.55`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`if there isn't, you can bet there will be one soon now`
`09:46.58`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`ah`
`09:47.16`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`that's one of those "we-got-a-name-now-we-need-a-mod-for-it" qualifiers`
`09:47.21`	`Wobin`	`It's true.`
`09:47.21`	`sylvanaar`	`or you can be ghetto, and say weave`
`09:47.41`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`just need it for stuff like when the last guy in black morass will freeze. or who's got the debuff on omorr`
`09:47.53`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`or as we call it here, "a Tekkub mod"`
`09:48.15`	`sylvanaar`	`lol tektaktoe`
`09:48.16`	`Tekkub`	`yes yes`
`09:48.24`	`Tekkub`	`what's the one I'm still looking for?`
`09:48.31`	`Tekkub`	`ugh what was that name`
`09:48.41`	`Wobin`	`A 5man BigWigs`
`09:48.42`	`Tekkub`	`gah I can't remember`
`09:48.43`	`Wobin`	`Called Toupee`
`09:49.02`	`sylvanaar`	`you can make tektakticz`
`09:49.15`	`Wobin`	`tektaktix`
`09:49.16`	`Tekkub`	`whine`
`09:49.21`	`Tekkub`	`it was such a great name too`
`09:49.48`	`sylvanaar`	`oh you already came up with it previously`
`09:49.56`	`sylvanaar`	`i was just makin stuff up`
`09:51.11`	`nee\|work`	`http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/jacket.jpg`
`09:51.55`	`snurre`	`Aens\|Superiority: hm, the test bar thingy doesnt work in sorrens tho.. so kinda hard to configure`
`09:52.08`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`test bar?`
`09:52.18`	`Tekkub`	`yes, I have a name that is kickass and I can't remember`
`09:52.23`	`Tekkub`	`never found a mod for it`
`09:52.29`	`snurre`	`to show a test bar so you can configure it and stuff`
`09:52.45`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`there should be one in the middle of your screen`
`09:52.54`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`if its your first time running it`
`09:52.58`	`snurre`	`yeah`
`09:53.49`	`snurre`	`but alt+clicking doesnt do anything`
`09:53.49`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`one of them is pvp bars`
`09:53.49`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`oh, try casting a dot on something then`
`09:53.49`	`sylvanaar`	`lol just got throught the alphabet a..z till you remember`
`09:53.49`	`snurre`	`yeah, i have to fight to show the timers`
`09:53.50`	`snurre`	`which is a little annoying`
`09:53.55`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`should be able to turn on anchors`
`09:54.16`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`the other one on your screen is probably the pvp timers. Its the countdown till when the gates open in a bg/arena`
`09:54.26`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`and also for stuff in av`
`09:54.37`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, first run frames seem neat until you have 40 of them when you log in on another account or server`
`09:54.49`	`snurre`	`yeah, thats not my issue.. just want to show a dummy bar so i can set colour, position and size properly`
`09:54.54`	`snurre`	`instead of having to do that in combat`
`09:54.59`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`yeah, should be an option to show anchors`
`09:55.00`	`Wobin`	`argh, What is this Secure Pie stuff? =(`
`09:55.08`	`snurre`	`there is one.. it just doesnt do anything`
`09:55.21`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`snurre: let me chek then`
`09:56.05`	`sylvanaar`	`something that never got used idk...you mean that radial button stuff in securewhatever.lua`
`09:56.52`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`snurre: do you use fubar?`
`09:57.07`	`snurre`	`yeah`
`09:57.16`	`Wobin`	`sylvanaar: I don't know, I've been hearing about it here and there for 2.1 and I'd like to find out more information before I write any more`
`09:57.28`	`snurre`	`i have all the options and stuff, im setting it up just fine.. it's just inconvenient that the test bar option doesn't show a dummy bar`
`09:57.28`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`sorren's timers, group options, defaultgroup, test bar`
`09:57.32`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`and unlock it first`
`09:57.46`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`should get a 5 minute test bar`
`09:57.50`	`sylvanaar`	`is the test server up for 2.1`
`09:57.56`	`snurre`	`i dont`
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`09:58.05`	`snurre`	`cause i can't uncheck the test bar`
`09:58.07`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`weird. You got all the dependancies?`
`09:58.14`	`nee\|work`	`*dependencies`
`09:58.22`	`snurre`	`yeh`
`09:58.52`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`huh, thats weird. when i unlocked it, I got the defaultgroup window to appear.`
`09:59.12`	`snurre`	`oh, yeah`
`09:59.14`	`snurre`	`i can unlock it`
`09:59.18`	`snurre`	`and get the anchor`
`09:59.28`	`snurre`	`but when i try to show the test bar`
`09:59.30`	`snurre`	`nothing happens`
`10:00.04`	`sylvanaar`	`my addons.txt files have this entry ": enabled" does anyone else have that in theirs?`
`10:00.31`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`snurre: hrm, really dont know why its doing that.`
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`10:03.05`	`Oridan`	`possible to get svn access or can someone fix a bug for me ?`
`10:03.21`	`Oridan`	`its just a 1 liner`
`10:04.29`	`Oridan`	`Yata: Core.lua line 2 -- Change DisableAddOn("KingOfTheJungle") to DisableAddOn("Yata")`
`10:04.46`	`Jaxon`	`Lol @ Stan Lee cameo in Heroes.`
`10:05.04`	`Jaxon`	`Wait, this isn't the right channel`
`10:05.05`	`Jaxon`	`I hate you.`
`10:05.11`	`Oridan`	`:o`
`10:05.20`	`Oridan`	`its a quiet channel today!`
`10:05.46`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`it's 05:00`
`10:05.48`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`go to bed`
`10:05.55`	`Oridan`	`eek`
`10:05.56`	`Oridan`	`thats early`
`10:06.00`	`Oridan`	`10:03 here :P`
`10:06.07`	`Fisker-`	`11:06 here`
`10:06.09`	`sylvanaar`	`who wants to go get rophy's version of mcp and commit it over acp?`
`10:06.10`	`Fisker-`	`time paradox O SHI`
`10:06.46`	`Wobin`	`Any tutorials on securestateheader frames etc?`
`10:06.59`	`sylvanaar`	`none that are helpful`
`10:08.00`	`Wobin`	`=(`
`10:08.39`	`Oridan`	`as per the svn rules, would people hate me for applying the patch i put a few lines up?`
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`10:09.15`	`vhaarr`	`Oridan: That's up to the author of the addon, not the SVN rules.`
`10:09.17`	`Iceroth`	`it's up to the author but i doubt anyone would mind a fix like that`
`10:09.23`	`Oridan`	`not that i have an svn account yet anyways`
`10:10.31`	`Oridan`	`oki, well gotta get an account then`
`10:11.22`	`snurre`	`hm, speaking of bed slow`
`10:11.26`	`snurre`	`i should get into mine`
`10:11.58`	`Health`	`Illhoof is really hard since buff.`
`10:12.16`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`yes and no`
`10:12.27`	`snurre`	`harder at least.. i wouldnt say he was really hard, but he's not a pinata anymore at least`
`10:12.28`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`you need someone with max FR and a method to aggro everything`
`10:12.37`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`but thats about it`
`10:12.56`	`Iceroth`	`we had some trouble with him before the buff and now couldn't take him at all :s`
`10:13.01`	`snurre`	`i didnt need any FR as aoe'er`
`10:13.13`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`well`
`10:13.16`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`we super cheesed it`
`10:13.26`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`had a mage with that talent which gives mana on resisting spells`
`10:13.32`	`Health`	`Not sure what our prob was.. :p`
`10:13.36`	`Wobin`	`><`
`10:13.36`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`gave him full fire resist and lol`
`10:13.41`	`[Ammo]`	`the trick to illhoof is seed of corruption`
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`10:13.49`	`Wobin`	`Why do I want to use SecureStateHeaders etc?`
`10:13.51`	`Health`	`Yeah, we had two warlocks spamming it.`
`10:14.04`	`Health`	`I think we were just tired.. was at 11 pm`
`10:14.07`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`well`
`10:14.46`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`I found our way to be much more fun. The mage with 350 FR got enough mana back to spam max rank arcane explosion start to finish without needing a pot or innervate`
`10:14.48`	`Health`	`Did Aran get a buff or is that just rumours?`
`10:15.05`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`Health: a little, but largely inconsequential`
`10:15.05`	`snurre`	`rumours`
`10:15.08`	`snurre`	`he's unchanged`
`10:15.17`	`Health`	`Good, he's a fun fight.`
`10:15.53`	`Iceroth`	`do you kill his elite imp every time it spawns?`
`10:16.00`	`snurre`	`we tried at first`
`10:16.04`	`snurre`	`you lose too much dps from that`
`10:16.04`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`we did`
`10:16.16`	`snurre`	`just offtank it, spank the boss and take chains asap`
`10:16.29`	`snurre`	`chains heal for 1600/sec or so, gotta die fast`
`10:16.59`	`Health`	`We have a druid off-tanking the imp. He can kill it pretty fast solo..`
`10:17.10`	`Health`	`And the imp takes damage from the seed too.`
`10:17.14`	`snurre`	`yeh`
`10:17.18`	`snurre`	`but it's not worth it imo`
`10:17.37`	`snurre`	`it has like 60k hp, too much to spend on him rather than boss`
`10:18.00`	`Iceroth`	`the increased dmg taken to boss after imp is down negates it some though`
`10:18.00`	`Health`	`Hmm, yeah, maybe... the heals is bad`
`10:18.17`	`Health`	`true`
`10:18.19`	`Iceroth`	`the fire dmg taken debuff kinda fucked us over at times`
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`10:18.52`	`snurre`	`http://files.filefront.com/crithappens_vs_terestianwmv/;6679732;;/fileinfo.html`
`10:18.58`	`snurre`	`me on prenerf illhoof :p`
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`10:20.13`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`seriously, try it`
`10:20.31`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`mage with 5/5 magic absorbtion (2nd tier arcane), 350ish FR`
`10:20.36`	`snurre`	`we dont have mages :p`
`10:20.37`	`snurre`	`all quit`
`10:20.39`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`oh`
`10:21.03`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`our mage did over 1 million damage on illhoof. we one shot it once we tried this`
`10:21.18`	`Iceroth`	`hmm`
`10:21.25`	`Iceroth`	`gotta talk our mage into respeccing then :p`
`10:21.28`	`snurre`	`6 active lvl70 belf paladins, 2 active lvl70 warlocks.. but only 1 semi-active mage in total :/`
`10:21.56`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`Iceroth: just get the full heroic badge FR set, slap on whatever FR you have left from L60, pally aura, mountain king`
`10:22.17`	`snurre`	`the heroic fr set takes a while to grind tho :p`
`10:22.18`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`stand beside illhoof and start spamming`
`10:22.27`	`Iceroth`	`umh well yea, the heroic badge thing is pretty much the showstopper`
`10:22.33`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`you dont need it`
`10:22.35`	`Iceroth`	`we haven't really done any of those yet`
`10:22.42`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`just get of fire resistance greens`
`10:22.51`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`gets the job done i guess, just means less spell damage, not that it matters`
`10:22.55`	`snurre`	`but tbfh, respeccing for a relatively easy optional encounter isn't something I would do`
`10:23.06`	`Iceroth`	`it's not optional!`
`10:23.09`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`you aren't giving up very much`
`10:23.15`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`its a 2nd tier arcane talent`
`10:23.17`	`Iceroth`	`drops the only feral weapon known in the whole freaking instance`
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`10:25.07`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=o0xE00f`
`10:25.11`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`thats all your mage needs`
`10:25.16`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`not even.`
`10:25.43`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`you lose arcane impact, but meh. arcane blast isn't worth using anyways`
`10:25.48`	`nymbia`	`fire/frost is really bad anyway`
`10:27.37`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=R0xE00fZZMAGcobxoiot pve frost build thats good enough to stay as`
`10:28.59`	`nymbia`	`2/5 imp frostbolt...?`
`10:30.06`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`idk, you can remove something i guess`
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`10:35.52`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r28589 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarClass.lua Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua): Bartender3: fixed cooldown display of fade-out bars`
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`10:39.06`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r28590 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`10:39.06`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`10:39.06`	`CIA-17`	`- What's with the euro clients exploding??? Add some debugging output when stuff blows up.`
`10:39.20`	`Wobin`	`bah`
`10:39.30`	`Wobin`	`I really can't understand these secure state frames enough =(`
`10:39.40`	`Wobin`	`They're bloody painful to figure out`
`10:39.54`	`[Ammo]`	`they're not that hard`
`10:39.58`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Wobin: yeah. ><`
`10:40.03`	`Wobin`	`Got a tute, Ammo?`
`10:40.03`	`[Ammo]`	`you just need to start simple`
`10:40.11`	`[Ammo]`	`I got my info from wowwiki`
`10:40.16`	`[Ammo]`	`it's pretty complete`
`10:40.35`	`Wobin`	`I honestly couldn't find enough on wowwiki to understand anything`
`10:40.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`[Ammo]: know of a good simple mod to learn from? i never like tutorials, reading and tinkering with code is much more intuitive for me`
`10:40.50`	`Oridan`	`the original blue posts were pretty informative`
`10:40.53`	`[Ammo]`	`I don't have a good and simple mod`
`10:40.57`	`[Ammo]`	`it's just fiddle with it`
`10:41.05`	`[Ammo]`	`what you basically do is`
`10:41.11`	`[Ammo]`	`define states in a stateheader`
`10:41.21`	`Wobin`	`What are these states?`
`10:41.24`	`[Ammo]`	`and add children to the stateheader that are part of a certain state`
`10:41.26`	`[Ammo]`	`they are 1 2 3 4 5`
`10:41.30`	`[Ammo]`	`or whatever you name them`
`10:41.32`	`Wobin`	`I think I'm lacking in understanding some terminology`
`10:41.38`	`[Ammo]`	`a state is a state`
`10:41.56`	`nevcairiel`	`a state is just a number`
`10:41.57`	`[Ammo]`	`put the header in state2 and the children will go to state2`
`10:42.11`	`Fisker-`	`mine doesn't explode nymbia`
`10:42.11`	`[Ammo]`	`you have to define the entire states beforehand`
`10:42.18`	`Wobin`	`How do I apply this to 'button clicks to cast spells' etc?`
`10:42.20`	`Fisker-`	`Then again i don't use manufac either`
`10:42.20`	`[Ammo]`	`otherwise they wont work in combat`
`10:42.30`	`[Ammo]`	`for button clicks to cast spells you don't need states`
`10:42.33`	`nymbia`	`Fisker-: lol`
`10:42.41`	`[Ammo]`	`you just need SecureActionButtonTemplate`
`10:42.48`	`[Ammo]`	`check Necronomicon2 for that for instance`
`10:42.51`	`vhaarr`	`NightHawkTheSane: What do you want to tinker with?`
`10:43.00`	`[Ammo]`	`check the Prototype.lua in there and the actual modules`
`10:43.02`	`Fisker-`	`well i did once!`
`10:43.02`	`Wobin`	`So, inheriting that, and using that as a normal button will work?`
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`10:43.07`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`10:43.09`	`Fisker-`	`But enchanting didn't work properly back then`
`10:43.12`	`Wobin`	`oh good.`
`10:43.14`	`Health`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_state_machine`
`10:43.16`	`Wobin`	`That simplifies a lot`
`10:43.27`	`[Ammo]`	`but you have to do: frame:SetAttribute("spell", "Curse of Agony")`
`10:43.28`	`[Ammo]`	`etc`
`10:43.36`	`Wobin`	`hm, that's fine`
`10:43.41`	`[Ammo]`	`and all that is explained very well on wowwiki`
`10:43.46`	`Wobin`	`Where? =)`
`10:43.52`	`[Ammo]`	`search for SecureAction`
`10:44.54`	`Wobin`	`I hate wowwiki's search`
`10:44.59`	`Wobin`	`it never turns anything useful up`
`10:45.03`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`vhaarr: state headers, secure state frames. I have no dire urge to tinker with it at this moment, but I've tried in the past, and I was just noting that I tend to do better by looking at existing code/apps :)`
`10:45.03`	`krka`	`anyone have time to test a new FAIAP, or should i wait for JJSheets to get back?`
`10:45.04`	`vhaarr`	`It sucks.`
`10:45.11`	`Jaxon`	`wowwiki's search uses google, doesn't it?`
`10:45.15`	`Iceroth`	`i have the same problem with wowi's search`
`10:45.16`	`[Ammo]`	`wobin: CreateFrame("Button", self.name.."Button", UIParent, "SecureActionButtonTemplate")`
`10:45.21`	`vhaarr`	`Jaxon: Yes, and it sucks bigtime.`
`10:45.28`	`Jaxon`	`Yeah, definately, google sucks`
`10:45.30`	`Jaxon`	`...`
`10:45.31`	`[Ammo]`	`button:RegisterForClicks("AnyUp")`
`10:45.33`	`vhaarr`	`NightHawkTheSane: right, then listen to ammo.`
`10:45.52`	`[Ammo]`	`button:SetAttribute("type1", "spell")`
`10:46.01`	`[Ammo]`	`type1 means button1`
`10:46.07`	`[Ammo]`	`type2 means button2`
`10:46.15`	`[Ammo]`	`button:SetAttribute("spell1", ( GetSpellName( spell.id, BOOKTYPE_SPELL) ) )`
`10:46.42`	`Iceroth`	`another thing to notice is that you can't parent secureX to a normal frame and then show/hide that frame, doesn't work`
`10:47.08`	`[Ammo]`	`those 4 lines gets you a frame that you can click on and casts a certain spell on leftclick`
`10:47.25`	`nevcairiel`	`dont forget to setpoint it :)`
`10:47.30`	`[Ammo]`	`and to give it a size`
`10:47.33`	`[Ammo]`	`and some color etc`
`10:47.34`	`[Ammo]`	`but shrug`
`10:47.37`	`nevcairiel`	`the template has a size`
`10:47.38`	`[Ammo]`	`the basics are this`
`10:47.39`	`nevcairiel`	`and colors`
`10:47.42`	`[Ammo]`	`it does not`
`10:47.43`	`nevcairiel`	`only a setpoint is needed :)`
`10:47.49`	`nevcairiel`	`hmr`
`10:47.50`	`[Ammo]`	`I think`
`10:47.52`	`nevcairiel`	`right, wrong template`
`10:47.54`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`10:47.58`	`[Ammo]`	`this is the barebones one`
`10:48.01`	`Wobin`	`aha http://www.wowwiki.com/Secure_Frames_Overview`
`10:48.07`	`Wobin`	`Now where the hell was that linked from?`
`10:48.10`	`nevcairiel`	`ActionButtonTemplate jhas the colors`
`10:48.14`	`[Ammo]`	`if you do: "SecureActionButtonTemplate, ActionButtonTemplate"`
`10:48.16`	`[Ammo]`	`or something`
`10:48.20`	`[Ammo]`	`then you have a normal action button`
`10:48.38`	`[Ammo]`	`you can also do "type1", "item"`
`10:48.44`	`Wobin`	`to use the item`
`10:48.45`	`[Ammo]`	`and then do: "bag1" and "slot1"`
`10:48.46`	`Silviu-`	`krka what is that FAIAP ? ;)`
`10:48.55`	`Wobin`	`For All Indents and Purposes`
`10:48.57`	`[Ammo]`	`or just "item1"`
`10:49.31`	`Wobin`	`Thanks Ammo =)`
`10:49.47`	`[Ammo]`	`but wowwiki has all that info hidden away somewhere`
`10:50.08`	`nevcairiel`	`and if you run into any real trouble, just ask :)`
`10:50.10`	`Wobin`	`Yeah, it needs to be indexed better =\`
`10:50.29`	`Fisker-`	`Are you man enough to use TakeHack?`
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`10:53.22`	`krka`	`if you don't know what it is, you're probably not the one i want testing it ;)`
`10:54.05`	`Tobin`	`Need some help... I clicked disable on my ag_uf minimap icon and can't firgure out how to reenable it.`
`10:54.26`	`Tobin`	`./ace2 load ag_unitframes`
`10:54.42`	`Tobin`	`./ace2 enable ag_unitframes ... doesn't do anything`
`10:54.58`	`Tobin`	`says the mod is in "standby"`
`10:55.13`	`Iceroth`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:55.55`	`Tobin`	`doesn't recognize that slash command`
`10:56.45`	`Fisker-`	`so nice being level 55`
`10:56.50`	`Fisker-`	`i can use my orb of deception`
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`10:58.09`	`vhaarr`	`Tobin: Tried right-clicking your FuBar?`
`10:58.30`	`Tobin`	`don't have fubar installed!`
`10:58.44`	`Tobin`	`but if installing that will help get it back...`
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`10:59.02`	`vhaarr`	`Tobin: Or do /aguf`
`10:59.12`	`Tobin`	`<Tobin> doesn't recognize that slash command`
`10:59.17`	`nymbia`	`if its on standby, then /aguf standby`
`10:59.42`	`vhaarr`	`hrm`
`10:59.48`	`vhaarr`	`I thought I fixed that bug.`
`10:59.55`	`vhaarr`	`ag must have reintroduced it.`
`11:00.00`	`Tobin`	`typing /aguf xxx just brings up the default blizz /help nonsense`
`11:00.18`	`nymbia`	`.hideWithoutStandby?`
`11:00.31`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Problem is that ag registers the slash command in OnEnable.`
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`11:00.57`	`vhaarr`	`Tobin: Do /script aUF:ToggleActive(true)`
`11:01.01`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: ah, that'd do it`
`11:01.23`	`Tobin`	`cool, that worked`
`11:01.39`	`vhaarr`	`I fixed that some time ago, but someone has reverted it.`
`11:02.00`	`Tobin`	`i might be a few revisions behind`
`11:02.06`	`vhaarr`	`No, you're not.`
`11:02.13`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: His option table relies on lots of stuff being initialized, like the actual frames and such. It needs to be rewritten.`
`11:02.15`	`Iceroth`	`bring the torches!`
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`11:03.15`	`nymbia`	`vhaarr: ah. i'd vote for some modularization as well.. wasnt someone talking about doing that?`
`11:03.24`	`Tobin`	`oO`
`11:03.33`	`Tobin`	`how do you know if i'm up to date or not...`
`11:03.33`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: I was, yeah.`
`11:03.57`	`Iceroth`	`didn't you read the disclaimer?`
`11:04.17`	`Iceroth`	`by using the mod you agreed to send any and all data to vhaar, and become his gardener`
`11:04.44`	`vhaarr`	`Now mow that lawn!`
`11:04.47`	`vhaarr`	`><`
`11:04.53`	`nymbia`	`that must one hell of a garden by now`
`11:04.57`	`Tobin`	`is that a sexual euphemism`
`11:05.09`	`nymbia`	`yes.`
`11:05.15`	`snurre`	`http://www.veoh.com/videos/v256767MPap9E5j go me`
`11:05.17`	`Tobin`	`cool.`
`11:05.19`	`nymbia`	`wait...`
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`11:05.36`	`Tobin`	`i can do the motorboat`
`11:05.42`	`Tobin`	`just like hobbs`
`11:06.54`	`Iceroth`	`what's that raid frame in the vid?`
`11:07.22`	`Oridan`	`snurre whats those raidbars you use`
`11:07.29`	`Oridan`	`oh, i think ice just asked that ^^`
`11:07.40`	`Iceroth`	`:)`
`11:08.14`	`snurre`	`aguf`
`11:09.37`	`Oridan`	`guess i'll have to play with that then ;)`
`11:09.44`	`Oridan`	`nice vid btw`
`11:09.53`	`Iceroth`	`hehe same, i'm using that only for party and focus frames :)`
`11:10.31`	`snurre`	`i fucked around a bit tho, was our first time ever getting the first mob down :p`
`11:10.35`	`snurre`	`and my first time enslaving`
`11:10.43`	`snurre`	`so didnt know exactly wtf to do at all times :p`
`11:10.44`	`Tobin`	`set-up kinda like perfectraid`
`11:11.06`	`snurre`	`yeah, i miss(ed) old praid (2.0 is kinda crap), so i set it up like that`
`11:11.24`	`Iceroth`	`oh btw, have i been totally blind or is there an option to get some aggro warning visible in aguf?`
`11:11.30`	`Tobin`	`i used to use perfect raid but now use grid like everyone else`
`11:11.42`	`\|Kev\|`	`I use grid these days`
`11:11.45`	`\|Kev\|`	`can't grumble`
`11:11.59`	`nevcairiel`	`still sRF for me`
`11:12.04`	`Iceroth`	`i've never really gotten used to grid`
`11:12.05`	`Tobin`	`i couldn't go back to perfect raid`
`11:12.13`	`Iceroth`	`it's really cool if all you gotta do is heal`
`11:12.18`	`Oridan`	`arg changelog still doesnt work in wau :(`
`11:12.35`	`Oridan`	`(yes, the final version)`
`11:12.35`	`Iceroth`	`but i can't tank/dps and then throw some quick heals if someone is dying with it`
`11:12.38`	`\|Kev\|`	`Oridan: I thought the changelog format was changed back on the server, so it should work`
`11:12.40`	`xyu`	`is there any way to re-enable the red X mapnotes when using the waypoint module?`
`11:12.50`	`\|Kev\|`	`Iceroth: I do :)`
`11:13.07`	`Oridan`	`no, thats fine kev, but viewing changelog doesnt, it broke somewhere between beta7 and beta9`
`11:13.18`	`\|Kev\|`	`Oridan: ah ok, I see what you mean :)`
`11:13.18`	`Tobin`	`heh, I saw Crit Happens and got scared`
`11:13.22`	`Iceroth`	`i'm too old fashioned, i need normal bars for that quick glance :)`
`11:13.23`	`nevcairiel`	`somewhere between .. so in beta8 ?`
`11:13.24`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
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`11:13.29`	`Tobin`	`there was a guild named that on my old server`
`11:13.51`	`\|Kev\|`	`Iceroth: I find the corner notification on agro in grid to be very useful for knowing when I should shift and heal`
`11:13.55`	`\|Kev\|`	`(druid)`
`11:13.57`	`nevcairiel`	`i cannot play with anything else then this CTRA frame layout sRF offers`
`11:14.48`	`\|Kev\|`	`maybe this will change as my guild progresses further in raiding, at the moment we've only done the first few kara bosses`
`11:15.02`	`Tobin`	`i saw a SS of somebody still using cosmos`
`11:15.07`	`Iceroth`	`yeah agro notification really rocks but generally if i'm not paying constant attention to grid, i miss it`
`11:15.16`	`Oridan`	`hehe i used cosmos for ages`
`11:15.17`	`haste`	`Tobin: a lot of people still use it`
`11:15.25`	`Oridan`	`until i found wa`
`11:15.31`	`Oridan`	`my gf still uses it tho`
`11:15.34`	`\|Kev\|`	`cosmos`
`11:15.43`	`\|Kev\|`	`isn't that the mod collection that everyone used to use?`
`11:15.55`	`Tobin`	`a loooong time ago`
`11:15.59`	`\|Kev\|`	`was really good in beta, but by a few weeks after US release was hideous?`
`11:16.01`	`Oridan`	`i tried to force her to swap saying "i'll just update you addons" and she complained cos it all looked different`
`11:16.03`	`Tobin`	`beta days`
`11:16.11`	`Tobin`	`it got way too bloated`
`11:16.14`	`\|Kev\|`	`it did`
`11:16.16`	`nymbia`	`cosmos was the way to go.... in uh.. closed beta...`
`11:16.35`	`Oridan`	`only thing i miss from cosmos is PartyQuests`
`11:16.44`	`\|Kev\|`	`Oridan: remind me`
`11:16.47`	`Oridan`	`i cant get used to the nQuestLog and stuff`
`11:16.59`	`vhaarr`	`FuBar_QuestsFu works fine for me.`
`11:17.09`	`Oridan`	`well, it basically just a better quest log`
`11:17.11`	`\|Kev\|`	`I don't use a quest mod at all`
`11:17.18`	`Oridan`	`its a bit like EQL`
`11:17.19`	`\|Kev\|`	`+log`
`11:17.40`	`Oridan`	`but it also had some bizarre party feature where you could read other peoples logs`
`11:17.45`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`cosmos was good simply because it was pre-packaged before there were any real sites devoted to addons.`
`11:18.02`	`Oridan`	`but it used all that sky and other crazily bloated linear librarys`
`11:18.24`	`Tobin`	`right now i'm using aguf, bartender, cartographer, grid and tinytip`
`11:18.28`	`Tobin`	`that's it`
`11:18.39`	`haste`	`I use none of those mentioned addons :D`
`11:18.43`	`Oridan`	`carto is great`
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`11:18.50`	`Tobin`	`oh, mass mail`
`11:18.58`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`oh god, i have so many mods.`
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`11:19.05`	`Oridan`	`mm same`
`11:19.07`	`\|Kev\|`	`I think I'm around 30 mods`
`11:19.08`	`Oridan`	`far too many`
`11:19.15`	`\|Kev\|`	`of which 7 or so are cart, and many are fu`
`11:19.22`	`Oridan`	`hrmm, i have 172 folders in my addons dir :D`
`11:19.23`	`xyu`	`can bartender3 make two 3x4 sets of buttons? 3 across 4 deep for a total of 12 buttons?`
`11:19.26`	`xyu`	`2 times`
`11:19.33`	`Oridan`	`half are packages and libraries tho :$`
`11:19.36`	`\|Kev\|`	`xyu: yes`
`11:19.36`	`Tobin`	`yes xyu`
`11:19.41`	`xyu`	`ok`
`11:19.55`	`haste`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:20.25`	`Oridan`	`does bartender have auto-detect features, similar to autobar ?`
`11:20.55`	`Iceroth`	`haste, got any recent ss of your ui?`
`11:20.56`	`Oridan`	`eg, it will use your conjoured food if you have it, and 'fallback' if you dont`
`11:21.03`	`Tobin`	`what's the preferred MT target / player target mod now`
`11:21.05`	`xyu`	`no, i don't believe so. I never saw anything like that.`
`11:21.14`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`buggrabber/bugsack, aguf, aguf barfader, bigwigs, cartographer, click2cast, fubar (and a whole tonf fu specific mods), itemrack, gmail, minimalist, ocb, onebag, ora, sraidframes, ratingbuster, sct, sorrens timers, simplecombat log, squeenix, swstats, tauntwarn`
`11:21.37`	`Tobin`	`oh yeah itemrack`
`11:21.41`	`Oridan`	`i have 25 fumods`
`11:21.46`	`\|Kev\|`	`I don't even use a unitframe mod these days`
`11:21.53`	`Tobin`	`i guess i'll stick to ora2`
`11:21.55`	`Oridan`	`15 bigwigs ^^`
`11:21.59`	`\|Kev\|`	`apart from adding health to the blizz frames`
`11:22.25`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`need unitframes mainly for the debuff highlighting`
`11:22.50`	`yacoob`	`FIVE GOLD NOSE RINGS! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6808529294460937493`
`11:23.58`	`Oridan`	`rofl`
`11:24.31`	`\|Kev\|`	`Aens\|Superiority: blizz frames do that now`
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`11:25.06`	`\|Kev\|`	`the edges of the portraits get recoloured for debuffs, which is sufficient for me, especially as I use grid`
`11:25.09`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`i have the frames in different places too.`
`11:25.27`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`i dont use grid. I tried but it was too abstract. I just use sRF on raids.`
`11:26.01`	`Oridan`	`11 I-WIN buttons lol`
`11:26.23`	`Iceroth`	`i like perfectraid's layout a lot but in it's current state it's lacking some vital features such as mana bars`
`11:27.10`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`http://aenslaed.mizery.net/dms.jpg how my UI looks like on a raid currently.`
`11:27.57`	`Iceroth`	`i don't get how ppl can live with so small chat boxed :p`
`11:28.17`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`?`
`11:28.23`	`Iceroth`	`i need 10 lines at least`
`11:28.48`	`Iceroth`	`and i don't even have general chat and all that crap going in my main chat frame`
`11:28.59`	`nevcairiel`	`i dont have general chat anywhere`
`11:29.01`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`we use vent for most important conversation.`
`11:29.02`	`nevcairiel`	`only crap in there anyway.`
`11:29.06`	`Tobin`	`lawl antlers`
`11:29.21`	`nevcairiel`	`you cannot chit-chat during raid on vent without anoying someone :D`
`11:29.27`	`nevcairiel`	`so whispers ftw :)`
`11:29.33`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`I never read what goes on in most chat channels. Thes tuff in that center chat window is what i read.`
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`11:30.08`	`Tobin`	`http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~ceugene/tobin-66.png`
`11:30.16`	`Iceroth`	`ah missed the center box`
`11:30.22`	`cncfanatics`	`good morning everyone :)`
`11:30.28`	`lys_`	`phat legz`
`11:30.30`	`Tobin`	`as for raiding...there's like 6 alliance on my new server total`
`11:30.48`	`Fisker-`	`holy shit Tobin`
`11:30.49`	`Tobin`	`98239823:1 horde:alliance ratio`
`11:30.53`	`Fisker-`	`What server you on?`
`11:31.02`	`Tobin`	`Auchindoun`
`11:31.07`	`Iceroth`	`i want your server to my battle group :p`
`11:31.08`	`Fisker-`	`OMG REPORTED LOLOL`
`11:31.11`	`Tobin`	`It's really between 4-5:1`
`11:31.13`	`Fisker-`	`you said fuck!`
`11:31.22`	`Fisker-`	`What region btw? :P`
`11:31.27`	`Tobin`	`US`
`11:31.31`	`Fisker-`	`:(`
`11:31.54`	`Tobin`	`gunna look up the census stats right now!`
`11:32.32`	`AKX`	`Is there an Ace library for tradeskill enumeration?`
`11:32.32`	`Tobin`	`http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=782 - rofl`
`11:32.32`	`Tobin`	`46% blood elf`
`11:32.45`	`Fisker-`	`lmao`
`11:33.07`	`Fisker-`	`half the alliance side is draenei too :P`
`11:33.22`	`nee\|work`	`http://www.bustedtees.com/shirt/miner/male`
`11:33.22`	`Fisker-`	`Still can't believe so many are still rolling rogues though`
`11:33.25`	`cncfanatics`	`glad Bronze Dragonflight ain't that way`
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`11:34.04`	`Iceroth`	`heh, druid still the least played class`
`11:34.10`	`Tobin`	`any surprise that hunter is the most populous class on both factions`
`11:34.17`	`CIA-17`	`03nimbal 07Nimbal * r28591 10Buffalo/Buffalo/Libs/:`
`11:34.17`	`CIA-17`	`Buffalo (branch):`
`11:34.17`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed AceHook external`
`11:34.17`	`Tobin`	`OP imo`
`11:34.30`	`Fisker-`	`:O`
`11:34.38`	`Fisker-`	`Blizzard launched a US server with the same name as ours`
`11:34.39`	`Tobin`	`feral druids are still op too, i hope more people don't realize that`
`11:34.50`	`Fisker-`	`http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=321&factionid=-1&minlevel=10&maxlevel=70&servertypeid=1 <-this is ours btw`
`11:35.02`	`Iceroth`	`new hunter class description: "So easy that even a bot can play!"`
`11:35.12`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`Tobin: its funny cause they complain about bear form, but its cat form thats overpowered atm`
`11:35.23`	`Iceroth`	`cat <3`
`11:35.27`	`Tobin`	`it's both`
`11:35.37`	`Tobin`	`pounce->mangle->shred->dead`
`11:35.38`	`Iceroth`	`took a lock with 8.2k hp down in cat's stunlock :)`
`11:35.51`	`cncfanatics`	`lock with 8.2k hp ?`
`11:35.54`	`cncfanatics`	`nublock, my mage has more`
`11:36.10`	`Tobin`	`but bear tanks are getting really good measured dps`
`11:36.17`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`Iceroth: wait till you get 2pc malorne`
`11:36.21`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`the proc is amazing`
`11:36.28`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`combat potency for druids pretty much`
`11:36.34`	`Iceroth`	`procs often?`
`11:36.39`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`very`
`11:36.42`	`Iceroth`	`neat`
`11:36.45`	`Tobin`	`not to mentio survivability, warrior tanks still take less damage over time, but bear damage taken is less spikey`
`11:36.52`	`Iceroth`	`i head the meta gem stun doesn't proc like at all`
`11:37.03`	`Iceroth`	`*head`
`11:37.08`	`Iceroth`	`what's with my R`
`11:37.12`	`Tobin`	`more mitigation, less avoidance...more dodge but no parry or block`
`11:37.17`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`Tobin: disagree. badly geared warriors might take spike damage.`
`11:37.25`	`Iceroth`	`'heard', yes, can type it >.<`
`11:37.32`	`\|Kev\|`	`my guild's strategy on moroes involves me tanking in heal gear`
`11:37.35`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`but a good warrior who has shield block up every time, will take less spike damage.`
`11:37.50`	`\|Kev\|`	`it's scary that it works, but it does`
`11:37.52`	`\|Kev\|`	`(tanking adds, that is)`
`11:38.02`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`11:38.12`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`moroes hits bears pretty hard. I'm overcapped on defense and he still hits hard`
`11:38.22`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Aens\|Superiority: eh, a well geared warrior will still see more damage spikes than a bear, simply due to having much more pure avoidance. a lucky avoidance streak turns into "streaky damage"`
`11:38.24`	`\|Kev\|`	`yeah, I tank adds`
`11:38.36`	`nevcairiel`	`the healer dude on the ogers in gruuls lair is tanked by a druid in healing gear, he shifts out and heals too once the healer-ogre is down`
`11:38.48`	`\|Kev\|`	`then once adds are dead, I switch to caster to heal over the dots`
`11:38.53`	`Tobin`	`Aens, spiky doesn't mean more`
`11:39.08`	`Iceroth`	`spikes means dead tanks`
`11:39.08`	`Tobin`	`the min-max damage is just more variable`
`11:39.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`er, i meant spikey, instead of streaky, but i guess its the same`
`11:39.27`	`lys_`	`More avoidance on Moroes = Less Gouges`
`11:39.41`	`Wobin`	`oh man`
`11:39.47`	`Wobin`	`some of those bustedteeshirts are great`
`11:39.50`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`'healer dude' in gruuls lair?`
`11:40.00`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`oh, nm`
`11:40.18`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`we just beat it down first in the fight. It is perma stunned`
`11:40.32`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`for all 20 seconds it is alive lol`
`11:40.52`	`nevcairiel`	`we just place a druid in healing gear on him, for safety :D`
`11:41.05`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`actually, I end up 'tanking' kiggler`
`11:41.08`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`if it can be called that`
`11:41.17`	`nevcairiel`	`which was kiggler? the shaman?`
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`11:41.20`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`sit there and get misdirected onto`
`11:41.20`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`yeah`
`11:41.29`	`nevcairiel`	`we have a moonkin tank him`
`11:41.39`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`probably better but we discourage moonkin in raids.`
`11:41.41`	`nevcairiel`	`sheep immun and on range he doesnt do much damage`
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`11:42.04`	`Iceroth`	`oh, that's a good tip.. we just throw 2 huntards to him`
`11:42.13`	`Iceroth`	`(yes, we have plenty)`
`11:42.22`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`bear tanking him is a bit trickier`
`11:42.35`	`\|Kev\|`	`I haven't been to gruul yet`
`11:42.52`	`Wobin`	`http://www.bustedtees.com/shirt/sparrow/male`
`11:42.55`	`Wobin`	`^^`
`11:43.04`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`you get misdirected onto at the start, but once he deaggros and does his explosion, i have to run in, mangle/maul it, then feral charge onto the warlock dude to make him stop meleeing`
`11:44.07`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`but honestly, moonkin are a waste of a raid spot. Its not like feral druids who can top a DM if they tried hard enough or resto druids who can heal`
`11:44.42`	`Iceroth`	`our moonkin did some insane dmg pre-tbc at least`
`11:45.59`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`they aren't like mages or warlocks anymore though`
`11:46.11`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`threat reduction abilities on a moonkin are nonexistant.`
`11:46.25`	`Iceroth`	`tell me about it..`
`11:46.29`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`vs soul shatter/invis`
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`11:47.09`	`Iceroth`	`very little survivability in 5mans after pulling aggro too`
`11:47.18`	`Iceroth`	`unless the healer is on the ball`
`11:47.20`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`then again, i pull aggro all the time lol`
`11:47.31`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`cower every time it is up and still pull aggro by damage`
`11:47.53`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`hi 2.5k shreds`
`11:48.09`	`Iceroth`	`how much ap you got?`
`11:48.20`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`2180`
`11:48.29`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`35.5% crit`
`11:48.54`	`Iceroth`	`4k mana?)`
`11:49.25`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`http://aenslaed.mizery.net/dms.jpg from a few days ago`
`11:49.27`	`\|Kev\|`	`my feral has over 10k mana in raids, in her level 60 healing gear`
`11:49.45`	`\|Kev\|`	`goodness knows how it'll look once I have 70 healing gear`
`11:49.56`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`so thats 6k mana in feral gear with an int buff`
`11:51.13`	`Iceroth`	`no luck with the staff i see :)`
`11:51.25`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`long story`
`11:51.39`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`but the one that did drop, is a bank queen now`
`11:51.50`	`Iceroth`	`O.o`
`11:52.20`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`GMs changed their policy about transfering loot btw`
`11:52.49`	`Fisker-`	`Anyone know if the "Allegiance to Scryers/Aldor" ever becomes unavailable`
`11:53.06`	`Fisker-`	`i.e. if i gain revered with Aldor will i still be able to do the quest?`
`11:53.46`	`Iceroth`	`oh well, i better get going, doesn't seem i'm getting any work done today...`
`11:53.51`	`clad\|sleep`	`Iceroth: Its a one-line commento get mana barrs`
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`11:54.01`	`clad\|sleep`	`snurre: Would you mind elaborating on "its crap"?`
`11:54.26`	`Iceroth`	`clad\|sleep, k thanks, i'll look that up when i get home`
`11:54.32`	`Iceroth`	`can the frames be locked as well?`
`11:54.40`	`clad\|sleep`	`Iceroth: yes /praid lock`
`11:54.56`	`Iceroth`	`even better`
`11:54.57`	`clad\|sleep`	`the line you want is manabar:Hide() i think`
`11:55.05`	`clad\|sleep`	`but its detailed in the addon comments.`
`11:55.07`	`Iceroth`	`couldn't find them from the fancy gui :)`
`11:56.07`	`Iceroth`	`oh actually now that you are here, how does the secondary spell thing in range detection work?`
`11:56.30`	`Iceroth`	`i have abolish poison with 30yd range and healing touch with 40yd range`
`11:57.04`	`Iceroth`	`how do i set it up so that i see when they are in abolish range?`
`11:57.11`	`clad\|sleep`	`you set it up as your primary`
`11:57.18`	`clad\|sleep`	`and healing touch as your secondary`
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`11:57.22`	`clad\|sleep`	`1.0 alpha pri`
`11:57.26`	`clad\|sleep`	`some other value for sec`
`11:58.41`	`Iceroth`	`sweet`
`11:59.03`	`Iceroth`	`really gotta run now :) ->`
`12:05.56`	`CIA-17`	`03darchon * r28592 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceLoot/InstanceLoot.lua:`
`12:05.56`	`CIA-17`	`Cartographer_InstanceLoot:`
`12:05.56`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed broken locales`
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`12:06.43`	`nevcairiel`	`there are _still_ 60 hunter farmbots in burning stepps .. and i want to level in peace there :(`
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`12:07.58`	`Fisker-`	`i find it weird they don't level a bit`
`12:08.09`	`Fisker-`	`although a lot of non-tbc did go up in price`
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`12:08.11`	`Wobin`	`no xpac?`
`12:08.12`	`yacoob`	`nevcairiel, scary, isn't it? Imagine a farm of PCs, sitting somewhere in a warehouse, all running Glider, moving those hunters...`
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`12:09.09`	`DrZoot`	`#testing`
`12:09.14`	`nevcairiel`	`Fisker-: prolly didnt get tbc, so no leveling`
`12:09.14`	`DrZoot`	`oops, soz`
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`12:09.34`	`nevcairiel`	`but only a few more ep, and i can go to outlands`
`12:10.10`	`Fisker-`	`heh i can guess nevcairiel`
`12:10.14`	`Fisker-`	`but not that expensive anyways`
`12:10.41`	`Fisker-`	`not like they get banned that often anyways`
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`12:12.03`	`arduran`	`hello`
`12:13.15`	`arduran`	`i have a question about cartographer_import..... if i copy my gatherer.lua in the cartographer_import folder, it says ingame something like "import complete", but i don�t see any mapnotes (herbs and mines) on my map :-( any idea why?`
`12:14.01`	`nevcairiel`	`add the gatherer.lua to the .toc file`
`12:14.48`	`nevcairiel`	`oh someone did that already, nvm`
`12:14.57`	`nevcairiel`	`you restarted the game completly?`
`12:17.02`	`arduran`	`yes i restarted completely`
`12:17.15`	`arduran`	`add the gatherer.lua to the .toc file <--- did you mean me? ^^`
`12:18.24`	`Oridan`	`its already in the toc file he means`
`12:18.32`	`Oridan`	`(i think)`
`12:18.45`	`arduran`	`no, in the toc-file was only the import.lua :-)`
`12:18.53`	`Oridan`	`oh`
`12:19.01`	`arduran`	`i try it now with gatherer.lua in it :D`
`12:19.05`	`arduran`	`thx for the tip`
`12:19.22`	`Oridan`	`what version you use ? mine has ummm Import, Gatherer and MapNotes`
`12:19.29`	`Oridan`	`unedited`
`12:20.09`	`arduran`	`the newest version i think (the one from http://files.wowace.com/ )`
`12:21.30`	`arduran`	`hmm`
`12:21.45`	`arduran`	`this is my Cartographer_Import.toc`
`12:22.00`	`arduran`	`Import.lua`
`12:22.00`	`arduran`	`Gatherer.lua`
`12:22.05`	`Rycochet`	`you copy it over but rename as import.lua`
`12:22.12`	`Rycochet`	`iirc`
`12:22.12`	`arduran`	`and over it the lines with #`
`12:22.28`	`Oridan`	`theres already an import.lua, which is the script for processing it i think`
`12:22.29`	`arduran`	`and ingame it says done import, but no notes are there`
`12:22.44`	`Oridan`	`well, mine doesnt even say "done import"`
`12:22.49`	`Oridan`	`just doesnt say anything ^^`
`12:22.49`	`Rycochet`	`check if import.lua is an empty file`
`12:22.55`	`Oridan`	`11kb`
`12:22.57`	`arduran`	`no it isn�t`
`12:22.57`	`Rycochet`	`i just remember someone saying about renaming it`
`12:24.33`	`arduran`	`could it have something to do with the fact that my gatherer.lua is from the newest version of gatherer? (so it looks different from the old ones...)?`
`12:25.03`	`Rycochet`	`pass`
`12:25.47`	`Oridan`	`is there a slash command to initiate the import ?`
`12:26.06`	`Rycochet`	`aren't there instructions on the wiki?`
`12:26.27`	`arduran`	`the only instruction on the wiki is copy the .lua to the folder`
`12:26.31`	`arduran`	`nothimg more :D`
`12:26.52`	`Rycochet`	`i reckon you need to talk to the coder when he's about then ;-)`
`12:26.57`	`Rycochet`	`prob the changed format`
`12:27.07`	`arduran`	`but i just tested importing a very old gatherer database with the old layout and it didn�t work, too :-)`
`12:27.17`	`Rycochet`	`oh...`
`12:27.30`	`arduran`	`so i think the whole import-code has a bug`
`12:27.38`	`Oridan`	`well, i'll check it out`
`12:27.52`	`Oridan`	`i'm only supposed to be working anyways ^^`
`12:28.05`	`Oridan`	`and i need it working too ;)`
`12:29.23`	`arduran`	`hehe`
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`12:30.18`	`arduran`	`this sucks, i am trying to fix the problem since ~2 days, because i would like to use cartographer instead of gatherer, because with gatherer i can�t share the mapnotes with my friends :-)`
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`12:31.34`	`Wobin`	`><`
`12:31.53`	`Adirelle\|work`	`arduran: you can't import notes from newest version of gatherer`
`12:32.00`	`arduran`	`:-(`
`12:32.08`	`Fisker-`	`When you see the grey ! for the first time how many levels does it mean i need before i can take the quest?`
`12:32.11`	`arduran`	`but it also doesn�t work with my old 2MB-Database`
`12:32.13`	`Wobin`	`If I have cos A = x/y and I know x and y, How can I find A? (in lua)`
`12:32.50`	`Adirelle\|work`	`arduran: erf... I can't say more, didn't write the importer`
`12:33.07`	`arduran`	`who did it? so i can talk to the guy :D`
`12:33.16`	`Adirelle\|work`	`dunno`
`12:33.18`	`Wobin`	`oh duh, acos`
`12:33.26`	`Wobin`	`I'm glad that works out =P`
`12:33.29`	`Oridan`	`i'm gonna try and modify the import.lua to take the new format then`
`12:33.29`	`arduran`	`ah ckknight was is :D`
`12:33.55`	`arduran`	`@oridan: if it works, would you be so nice and send me the modified file? ^^`
`12:34.02`	`Oridan`	`of course :)`
`12:34.16`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Wobin: it generally involves atan`
`12:34.35`	`Wobin`	`yeah? =\`
`12:34.50`	`Wobin`	`y = arccos(x) x = cos(y)`
`12:34.58`	`Oridan`	`arduran can you whisper me the first 6/7 lines of your old gatherer format`
`12:35.02`	`Oridan`	`please`
`12:35.06`	`Wobin`	`?`
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`12:35.13`	`Wobin`	`(Is what Wikipedia says, anyway =P)`
`12:35.22`	`Adirelle\|work`	`try it then :)`
`12:35.32`	`Wobin`	`Adirelle\|work: I wouldn't know if it was right or wrong =P`
`12:35.37`	`Adirelle\|work`	`I knew to do it, but I forgot`
`12:36.02`	`Oridan`	`ahh ok interesting`
`12:36.07`	`Oridan`	`i think i found an old format`
`12:36.28`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Wobin: you have the x and y delta and you're looking for the angle ?`
`12:36.39`	`Wobin`	`yeah`
`12:36.48`	`Wobin`	`well`
`12:36.53`	`arduran`	`wait i search one :-) sry was afk :D`
`12:36.53`	`Wobin`	`lemme explain the whole situation`
`12:36.59`	`Wobin`	`see if you can help =)`
`12:37.00`	`Oridan`	`GatherItems used to be GatherItems[CONTINENT(int)][ZONE(int)][ITEMDATA]`
`12:37.34`	`Wobin`	`I want to find the arclength possible for a point near the edge of the screen, where the radius of the circle is larger than the distance between the point and the edge.`
`12:38.02`	`arduran`	`@oridan: i sent you some lines of the old gatherer-file`
`12:38.09`	`Wobin`	`Or really, the degree range available for that radius`
`12:38.54`	`Adirelle\|work`	`I have some trouble figuring what you want :S`
`12:39.08`	`Wobin`	`Okay, picture a point near the top left corner of the screen`
`12:39.16`	`Oridan`	`didnt get them arduran`
`12:39.23`	`Adirelle\|work`	`ok`
`12:39.39`	`Wobin`	`Draw a circle around it that has a radius larger than the distance to the edge so it overlaps out of the screen`
`12:39.51`	`Wobin`	`I want to find the visible area`
`12:39.57`	`Wobin`	`or the usable angle`
`12:40.10`	`Wobin`	`ignoring the arc that goes off the edge`
`12:40.15`	`arduran`	`argh`
`12:40.15`	`Adirelle\|work`	`oh`
`12:40.21`	`Adirelle\|work`	`caught it`
`12:40.26`	`arduran`	`wait oridan, i have to register with the server`
`12:40.31`	`Oridan`	`its np`
`12:40.32`	`arduran`	`otherwise it blocks my whispers`
`12:40.34`	`Oridan`	`i've found the format`
`12:40.37`	`Adirelle\|work`	`hmm`
`12:40.40`	`Adirelle\|work`	`only left or right ?`
`12:40.45`	`Oridan`	`just decoding the new format now`
`12:40.51`	`Adirelle\|work`	`or top and bottom too ?`
`12:40.51`	`nee\|work`	`http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/not_really_into_pokemon.png`
`12:40.52`	`Wobin`	`well, top and bottom too`
`12:41.16`	`Adirelle\|work`	`(btw, what is that for ? :D)`
`12:41.24`	`Wobin`	`Spluttons`
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`12:41.36`	`Adirelle\|work`	`huh ?`
`12:41.38`	`Wobin`	`(hopefully =P If the securepie doesn't put me out of business)`
`12:41.38`	`nee\|work`	`(what is what for?)`
`12:41.57`	`Wobin`	`sprocket, basically`
`12:42.02`	`evl`	`nee\|work: I just uploaded a new addons pack complete with your request for sold trash reporting.`
`12:42.07`	`arduran`	`oridan can you now read my whispers?`
`12:42.38`	`Wobin`	`You hit the button and splut. more buttons appear around it`
`12:42.58`	`Adirelle\|work`	`and you want to avoid offscreen buttons`
`12:43.03`	`Wobin`	`I want it to hug the screen, aye`
`12:43.15`	`Wobin`	`but not crowd up`
`12:43.18`	`Adirelle\|work`	`good luck :D`
`12:43.19`	`Wobin`	`unevenly`
`12:43.21`	`Wobin`	`hehe =)`
`12:43.37`	`haste`	`Iceroth: http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/ui/26012007.png << is the most reasent`
`12:44.01`	`Adirelle\|work`	`my trigonometric courses are so far in the past...`
`12:44.12`	`haste`	`(speed reply)`
`12:44.13`	`Wobin`	`Adirelle\|work: So true =\`
`12:44.15`	`Health`	`So.. you have 3 lines of chat?`
`12:44.22`	`arduran`	`i am afk for about 1 or 2 hours.... @oridan: if you get any results say it please xD`
`12:44.27`	`arduran`	`see you later`
`12:44.27`	`haste`	`Health: not exactly`
`12:44.53`	`haste`	`Health: http://www.beverpung.net/addons/slide2.avi << and you might want to mute the sound, forgot to do it when I recorded it :(`
`12:44.54`	`Health`	`You don't like the minimap? :(`
`12:45.00`	`haste`	`me don't like minimap`
`12:45.08`	`Health`	`Are you fapping? :(`
`12:45.16`	`Adirelle\|work`	`in fact, you don't care about Y in left and right overlapping`
`12:45.27`	`Adirelle\|work`	`and you don't care about X in top and bottom case`
`12:45.43`	`Adirelle\|work`	`so you can just use arccos in first case and arcsin in second one`
`12:45.55`	`haste`	`not really`
`12:45.56`	`Wobin`	`unless they're in a corner`
`12:46.06`	`Adirelle\|work`	`one thing at a time :p`
`12:46.08`	`Wobin`	`hehe =)`
`12:46.29`	`Health`	`what codec is it?`
`12:46.51`	`CIA-17`	`03trh * r28593 10VanasKoS/VanasKoSGUI.lua: VanasKoS: sorting of guildlist by level and lastseen prohibited`
`12:46.58`	`haste`	`x264 I think`
`12:47.45`	`Adirelle\|work`	`with r as radius, dx as distance from the center of circle to the corner of the screen, wouldn't this work : a = arccos(dx/r) ?`
`12:47.50`	`Wobin`	`Adirelle\|work: Why acos in one and asin in the other?`
`12:47.58`	`Wobin`	`yeah`
`12:48.02`	`Wobin`	`That's what I'm hoping to use`
`12:48.05`	`Adirelle\|work`	`dx = r*cos(a)`
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`12:48.09`	`Adirelle\|work`	`dy = r*sin(a)`
`12:48.32`	`Wobin`	`oh wait`
`12:48.33`	`Adirelle\|work`	`now, there are some "tricky" things to add`
`12:48.41`	`Wobin`	`how does that work?`
`12:48.50`	`Wobin`	`Oh man, I need a whiteboard =P`
`12:48.53`	`Adirelle\|work`	`:D`
`12:48.56`	`nee\|work`	`evl: Nice :) Thank you yet again.`
`12:49.27`	`Wobin`	`centre of the circle to the corner of the screen wouldn't necessarily make a right angled triangle`
`12:49.31`	`CIA-17`	`03trh * r28594 10VanasKoS/ (VanasKoS.toc VanasKoSLocals.lua changelog.txt): VanasKoS: changelog and version`
`12:49.38`	`Adirelle\|work`	`the fact is that it will return you a value between 0 and PI`
`12:49.39`	`nee\|work`	`off home now. poof`
`12:50.00`	`Wobin`	`For the corner, I was going to figure out the angle to the top, and to the side, and then add 90 degrees`
`12:50.14`	`Wobin`	`since the radius is the hypotenuse`
`12:50.38`	`Adirelle\|work`	`well`
`12:50.58`	`Adirelle\|work`	`handle only one case at a time`
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`12:51.20`	`Adirelle\|work`	`put you're circle on left side of the screen, neither overlapping top nor bottom`
`12:51.49`	`Wobin`	`okay, so if it's along an edge and far enough away from the corner, would 2acos(dx/r) do?`
`12:52.14`	`Adirelle\|work`	`the edge line will cross the circle at two points`
`12:52.46`	`Wobin`	`aye, so twice acos(dx/r)`
`12:52.56`	`Adirelle\|work`	`no :D`
`12:53.03`	`Wobin`	`damn =)`
`12:53.08`	`Wobin`	`why not?`
`12:53.25`	`krka`	`l2math`
`12:53.27`	`Adirelle\|work`	`a = arcos(dx/r) will give you angle of the top crosspoint (sp ?)`
`12:53.49`	`Wobin`	`yep`
`12:53.51`	`Adirelle\|work`	`then a quite-dumb-but-hard-to-remember formula will give you the other angle`
`12:54.00`	`Wobin`	`sohcahtoa? =P`
`12:54.18`	`krka`	`do you really need to use trig-math? won't linalg be good enough?`
`12:54.26`	`krka`	`granted, i don't really know what your problem is :)`
`12:54.36`	`Wobin`	`Aren't we working with two right angled triangles back to back?`
`12:54.45`	`Wobin`	`krka: Howso?`
`12:54.48`	`Adirelle\|work`	`I would say : a2 = 2*PI - a`
`12:55.40`	`Adirelle\|work`	`visible range would be from 0 to a then a2 to 2*PI`
`12:56.09`	`krka`	`can you describe your problem for me? :)`
`12:56.13`	`krka`	`or possibly draw it`
`12:56.15`	Punkie`	`[Ammo]: You here? :)`
`12:56.15`	`Wobin`	`oh hang on, where does 0 start?`
`12:56.40`	`Adirelle\|work`	`cos(0) = 1, sin(0) = 0`
`12:56.55`	`Wobin`	`krka: envisage a point near the edge of the screen. Draw a circle around that point where the radius is greater than the distance to the edge. I want to find the angle of the visible arc of the circle`
`12:57.45`	`krka`	`oh i see!`
`12:58.04`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Wobin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Unit_circle_angles.svg`
`12:58.21`	`Wobin`	`oh definitely needed that`
`12:58.33`	`krka`	`do you need the angle or the actual point?`
`12:58.43`	`Adirelle\|work`	`just the angle`
`12:58.48`	`krka`	`well, from the intersection point, you can get the angle, i guess`
`12:58.50`	`Adirelle\|work`	`it will be used to layout buttons`
`12:59.09`	`krka`	`so, you want to know in what angle-interval the buttons will fit?`
`12:59.14`	`Wobin`	`yeah`
`12:59.22`	`krka`	`ouch... annoying work :)`
`12:59.23`	`krka`	`angles suck`
`12:59.24`	`Wobin`	`hehe`
`12:59.36`	`Wobin`	`once I figure that out, I can have the fun of actually placing the buttons on that arc`
`13:00.03`	`krka`	`you need to differentiate a lot of cases`
`13:00.09`	`Adirelle\|work`	`clearly`
`13:00.11`	`krka`	`first, corners and plain edges`
`13:00.17`	`Adirelle\|work`	`and even edges`
`13:00.20`	`krka`	`and possibly do one for each of those`
`13:00.30`	`Adirelle\|work`	`left and right won't be handled the same way`
`13:00.43`	`krka`	`true`
`13:01.43`	`krka`	`wait... was sin or cos opposite side? :)`
`13:02.02`	`Wobin`	`sohcah?`
`13:02.11`	`Adirelle\|work`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosine`
`13:05.16`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Wobin: you will have lots of interval I think`
`13:05.34`	`Adirelle\|work`	`one in the better case`
`13:05.54`	`Adirelle\|work`	`and two in the worst case`
`13:06.02`	`Wobin`	`or`
`13:06.15`	`Wobin`	`I could just prevent people from dragging the circles that close to the edge`
`13:06.22`	`Adirelle\|work`	`yeah :D`
`13:06.30`	`Wobin`	`and make them bounce out if too close =)`
`13:06.32`	`Adirelle\|work`	`much easier`
`13:06.48`	`Oridan`	`can anyone recommend a decent lua editor (win32)`
`13:06.53`	`Wobin`	`vim`
`13:06.57`	`Wobin`	`gvim`
`13:06.59`	`Wobin`	`in fact`
`13:07.15`	`Wobin`	`otherwise I've heard that Eclipse isn't too bad`
`13:07.26`	`Fisker-`	`that isn't a lua editor!!`
`13:07.27`	`Oridan`	`ahh yea, i used eclipse for some java stuff a while back`
`13:07.29`	`Adirelle\|work`	`eclipse doesn't support lua 5.1`
`13:07.34`	`Wobin`	`=(`
`13:07.37`	`Adirelle\|work`	`only 5.0`
`13:07.40`	`Wobin`	`Well that's sucky`
`13:07.46`	`Adirelle\|work`	`a lot`
`13:07.52`	`Adirelle\|work`	`the plugin hasn't been updated`
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`13:07.57`	`Wobin`	`Good thing I use gvim =)`
`13:08.17`	`Adirelle\|work`	`eclipse have a lot of time-saving features`
`13:08.26`	`Adirelle\|work`	`s/have/haS/`
`13:08.31`	`Oridan`	`Scintilla any good ?`
`13:08.36`	`Oridan`	`its aparantly 5.1`
`13:08.37`	`Wobin`	`never used it`
`13:09.14`	`Oridan`	`lets give it a try`
`13:09.26`	`mitch0`	`I use eclipse with lua5.1... it's 5.0 support wasn't any good either, so bleh...`
`13:09.29`	`haste`	`vim!`
`13:09.31`	`Oridan`	`hehe`
`13:09.39`	`haste`	`I used SciTE before tho'`
`13:09.47`	`mitch0`	`yeah, I use gvim as well from time to time, and vim on *nix`
`13:10.14`	`mitch0`	`but I like the subversion integration in eclipse, so...`
`13:10.20`	`Wobin`	`It's true`
`13:10.28`	`Wobin`	`the subversion integration is very nice`
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`13:13.02`	`Oridan`	`scite isnt bad`
`13:13.14`	`Fisker-`	`How can i see the current permissions on directories?`
`13:13.23`	`Oridan`	`as an editor i mean`
`13:13.23`	`AKX`	`Bah, I just use TextPad and TortoiseSVN. :)`
`13:13.23`	`Fisker-`	`in linux :P`
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`13:13.37`	`Oridan`	`ls ?`
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`13:16.16`	`Adirelle\|work`	`mitch0: eclipse and lua5.1 ??? WTB ! where ? :)`
`13:18.25`	`Wobin`	`ls -la?`
`13:19.18`	`neenee`	`http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/command_line_fu.png hehe`
`13:19.25`	`neenee`	`man ls`
`13:20.04`	`krka`	`i agree with Adirelle\|work`
`13:20.05`	`krka`	`where?`
`13:20.14`	`krka`	`(though, emacs lua-mode is pretty damn good)`
`13:20.15`	`Fisker-`	`neenee you expect me to read the manual?`
`13:20.32`	`Fisker-`	`even if you had refused to tell me i would've been sitting here crying instead of reading the manual`
`13:20.32`	`Wobin`	`nope =P`
`13:20.32`	`Fisker-`	`:P`
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`13:24.00`	`mitch0`	`Adirelle\|work: no, I said the 5.0 support was shit as well, so almost the same as nonexistent (I use eclipse with the standard editor for lua)`
`13:24.17`	`neenee`	`Fisker-: :)`
`13:24.29`	`Adirelle\|work`	`oh`
`13:24.36`	`mitch0`	`argh, that was confusing again: I use that generic editor in eclipse when editing lua files. there`
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`13:24.58`	`mitch0`	`although I miss open declaration, search for references, etc...`
`13:24.58`	`Adirelle\|work`	`too bad`
`13:25.17`	`Adirelle\|work`	`thoses features would be the only one that could justify using eclipse`
`13:25.18`	`neenee`	`-a`
`13:25.18`	`neenee`	`Lists all entries, including those that begin with a dot (.), which are normally not listed.`
`13:25.30`	`mitch0`	`but lua code is not like the java stuff I'm hacking @work, so it's managable without the niceties`
`13:25.31`	`neenee`	`and -l = long format`
`13:25.46`	`krka`	`harder to do any static analysis in lua too`
`13:25.57`	`mitch0`	`Adirelle\|work: as I said, I use it for teh svn integration :)`
`13:25.58`	`Oridan`	`got a quick (simple) lua question, possible to "continue" a for loop ?`
`13:26.13`	`krka`	`Oridan: no continue keyword, you'll have to wrap it in a if`
`13:26.19`	`Oridan`	`ugh, ugly!`
`13:26.22`	`Oridan`	`k thanks :D`
`13:26.26`	`mitch0`	`lua is pita :)`
`13:26.47`	`krka`	`for ... do .... if x then continue end XYZ end -> for do if not x then XYZ end end`
`13:26.52`	`mitch0`	`I really don't understand why they (blizz) picked lua instead of some decent scripting language, like pythoon`
`13:26.53`	`krka`	`not really _that_ bad`
`13:27.03`	`krka`	`you're kidding mitch0?`
`13:27.08`	`mitch0`	`no`
`13:27.12`	`krka`	`lua is not decent?`
`13:27.17`	`mitch0`	`no it's not`
`13:27.22`	`mitch0`	`it's a hack of a programming language`
`13:27.32`	`krka`	`lua is better than python :P`
`13:27.54`	`mitch0`	`with some seriously awkward syntax and semantics`
`13:27.54`	`krka`	`what makes you say that?`
`13:27.58`	`krka`	`example?`
`13:27.58`	`mitch0`	`the OOP support?`
`13:27.58`	`mitch0`	`metatables?`
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`13:27.59`	`mitch0`	`type safete?`
`13:28.03`	`mitch0`	`s/te/ty/`
`13:28.24`	`mitch0`	`prototypes?`
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`13:29.01`	`mitch0`	`loads of silly little things that should be caught "compile time" and instead you scratch your head crashing your WoW gui :)`
`13:29.01`	`Fisker-`	`http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1171976289353.jpg <-lmao`
`13:29.22`	`mitch0`	`Fisker-: lol`
`13:29.32`	`Tovort`	`how good is Luaeclipse? I just saw there is a new version?`
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`13:29.49`	`mitch0`	`Tovort: it has new stats?`
`13:30.26`	`mitch0`	`Tovort: more seriously, could you paste the url? :)`
`13:30.35`	`Tovort`	`http://luaeclipse.luaforge.net/index.html#status`
`13:30.58`	`Tovort`	`mitch0: :-)`
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`13:31.06`	`Health`	`5.0`
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`13:31.50`	`mitch0`	`btw, how badly does luaeclipse die on lua5.1?`
`13:32.13`	`mitch0`	`wth, I'll take a look :)`
`13:33.52`	`JoshBorke`	`personally i like lua, but to each his own :_)`
`13:34.09`	`mitch0`	`JoshBorke: well, yeah. for me, it's too haphazard`
`13:34.57`	`JoshBorke`	`for its 'haphazard'ness is one of the things i like, because i can do more`
`13:36.01`	`mitch0`	`JoshBorke: do more? or do stuff in a non-obvious way? :)`
`13:36.33`	`JoshBorke`	`mitch0: code is never obvious to me, so i can't comment on that :-P`
`13:37.00`	`mitch0`	`JoshBorke: so you're not a programmer then? I mean, do it for a living?`
`13:37.07`	`JoshBorke`	`no, not at all`
`13:37.32`	`mitch0`	`well, that could be the difference then :)`
`13:37.32`	`Oridan`	`which lib deals with items? i need a function to find the item name from an itemid`
`13:38.14`	`Oridan`	`nvm`
`13:38.16`	`Oridan`	`no need`
`13:38.19`	`Oridan`	`its built in`
`13:38.22`	`mitch0`	`:)`
`13:38.40`	`Oridan`	`<-- think before speak mmmuurrgghhhhh`
`13:38.59`	`mitch0`	`Oridan: nah, it's always easier to make other ppl think instead of you :)`
`13:39.04`	`Oridan`	`lol`
`13:39.04`	`Oridan`	`:D`
`13:39.07`	`mitch0`	`sometimes it even works on irc :)`
`13:39.25`	`Oridan`	`yea, but most of the time its "oh, everyone went afk suddenly"`
`13:39.33`	`Oridan`	`or, "damn, netsplit"`
`13:39.40`	`Oridan`	`:D`
`13:40.43`	`mitch0`	`well, luaeclipse's syntax coloring kinda works with 5.1 as well`
`13:40.54`	`mitch0`	`no outline though (dunno if it's supposed to do that though)`
`13:41.28`	`Oridan`	`outline is good on scite`
`13:42.49`	`AKX`	`Where could I find a list of item link quality colors?`
`13:44.06`	`Oridan`	`GetItemQualityColor(quality)`
`13:44.09`	`Oridan`	`oh, a list`
`13:44.12`	`Oridan`	`hrm`
`13:44.28`	`nevcairiel`	`cycle through that function :P`
`13:44.33`	`Oridan`	`^^`
`13:44.42`	`nevcairiel`	`or maybe wowwiki`
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`13:51.51`	`mitch0`	`completion doesn't work either`
`13:52.08`	`mitch0`	`so, basically it's just syntax coloring with some false errors :)`
`13:52.16`	`mitch0`	`(speaking of luaeclipse)`
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`13:54.05`	`pb_ee1`	`Heya ;)`
`13:54.05`	`CIA-17`	`03darkimakuni * r28595 10Visor2GUI/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua Visor2GUI.xml):`
`13:54.05`	`CIA-17`	`Visor2GUI`
`13:54.05`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated rounding code (code stolen from Cartographer)`
`13:54.05`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated localization (translators needed!)`
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`13:54.37`	`mitch0`	`is there some bot here that could provide a one-liner description of ace addons? like !toc Visor2GUI? :)`
`13:54.46`	`JoshBorke`	`no`
`13:54.51`	`JoshBorke`	`but you could go to files.wowace.com`
`13:55.03`	`mitch0`	`yes, but that's a lot of work :P`
`13:55.33`	`pb_ee1`	`!api visor2gui`
`13:55.44`	`pb_ee1`	`hey`
`13:55.50`	`pb_ee1`	`Wake up GoogleSearch`
`13:56.00`	`pb_ee1`	`!googlehelp`
`13:56.12`	`Industrial`	`"browser"`
`13:56.24`	`pb_ee1`	`!ace visor2gui`
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`13:57.01`	`pb_ee1`	`mitch0: try typing !ace visor2gui`
`13:57.23`	`mitch0`	`!ace visor2gui`
`13:57.27`	`pb_ee1`	`that's the best it can do at the moment :p`
`13:57.41`	`mitch0`	`not much :)`
`13:57.58`	`pb_ee1`	`Complete commands available by typing !googlehelp`
`13:58.07`	`mitch0`	`or, more precisely, not what I'm looking for :)`
`13:58.10`	`Tovort`	`mitch0: Thanks for that evaluation of luaeclipse.`
`13:58.28`	`mitch0`	`Tovort: always glad to help`
`13:58.30`	`mitch0`	`:)`
`13:58.40`	`mitch0`	`(imagine the human mail voice for that)`
`13:58.45`	`mitch0`	`s/mail/male/`
`13:58.47`	`mitch0`	`doh`
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`14:02.38`	`Daemona`	`error in babble-herbs 2.2 -> misses translation for german "Eiskappe" -> "Icecap"`
`14:04.27`	`nevcairiel`	`["Icecap"] = "Eiskappe",`
`14:04.30`	`nevcairiel`	`its there for me`
`14:06.05`	`Oridan`	`ahh excellent`
`14:06.07`	`CIA-17`	`03darkimakuni * r28596 10Visor2GUI/Locale-enUS.lua:`
`14:06.07`	`CIA-17`	`Visor2GUI`
`14:06.07`	`CIA-17`	`- Whoops, added missing comma.`
`14:06.27`	`Oridan`	`nearly done with fixing the carto_import of new gatherer db format`
`14:07.07`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r28597 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2.lua:`
`14:07.07`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`14:07.07`	`CIA-17`	`- BH: fixed indentation and svn link`
`14:07.38`	`mitch0`	`Oridan: don't you want to do a MapNotes import while you're at it? :)`
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`14:07.49`	`Oridan`	`hrmmm tempting :P`
`14:07.51`	`Oridan`	`hehehe`
`14:08.09`	`Oridan`	`i'll finish this first, then see how i'm fixed for time`
`14:08.42`	`mitch0`	`Oridan: I'd be very happy if you could manage it :)`
`14:10.40`	`Adirelle\|work`	`!ace visor2gui`
`14:11.13`	`Adirelle\|work`	`!api babble`
`14:11.26`	`Adirelle\|work`	`!api Parser-3.0`
`14:13.53`	`Oridan`	`?`
`14:13.58`	`Oridan`	`!ace visor2gui`
`14:14.15`	`Oridan`	`thats not a chan msg, is it ?`
`14:14.33`	`nevcairiel`	`no`
`14:14.35`	`pb_ee1`	`Actually it will output to the chan only if a + or an @ will make a query`
`14:14.43`	`Oridan`	`nice`
`14:14.43`	`pb_ee1`	`This to prevent spaming on the chan`
`14:14.55`	`GoogleSearch`	`!ace Visor2Gui`
`14:14.57`	`GoogleSearch`	`/trunk/Visor2GUI – WoW Ace – Trac ( http://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/Visor2GUI?order=date )`
`14:15.23`	`pb_ee1`	`will make -> makes * :p`
`14:15.25`	`Oridan`	`damn seagulls are terrorising my chickens :@`
`14:17.15`	`pb_ee1`	`What is the purpose of Visor2Gui?`
`14:17.27`	`pb_ee1`	`Too bad there isn't any info on: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Visor2GUI`
`14:18.01`	`arduran`	`re`
`14:21.59`	`Oridan`	`did gatherer ever track fishing ?`
`14:22.15`	`arduran`	`no, i don�t think so`
`14:22.23`	`Thorgard_`	`I think it did.`
`14:22.37`	`sylvanaar`	`this is wierd, my ora2 profile one for the fubar is 'Sylvaan of Proudmoore', and for ora itself its 'Sylvaan - Proudmoore'`
`14:22.38`	`Oridan`	`i cant find the gtype code for it`
`14:22.55`	`nevcairiel`	`gatherer did pick up fishing schools`
`14:23.04`	`Oridan`	`OPEN for containers, HERB for.. you get the idea`
`14:23.11`	`Oridan`	`hrmm`
`14:23.30`	`Oridan`	`arduran, your file is 2meg yea ?`
`14:23.41`	`arduran`	`my OLD database, yes`
`14:23.47`	`Oridan`	`ahhh ok`
`14:23.48`	`Oridan`	`hrm`
`14:23.56`	`Oridan`	`and your old one doesnt import either ?`
`14:24.08`	`arduran`	`no, it doesn�t import :-(`
`14:24.11`	`Tobin`	`i can't believe the forumzz logins are still tied to server maintenance`
`14:24.13`	`Oridan`	`bizarre`
`14:24.15`	`arduran`	`very`
`14:24.23`	`Oridan`	`can you zip it up and send it to me plz?`
`14:24.26`	`arduran`	`i can send you my old one if you want`
`14:24.32`	`arduran`	`yes, 1 moment`
`14:24.35`	`Oridan`	`thanks :)`
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`14:24.51`	`CIA-17`	`03darkimakuni * r28598 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua:`
`14:24.51`	`CIA-17`	`Waterfall-1.0`
`14:24.51`	`CIA-17`	`- Fix documentation and SVN links.`
`14:25.12`	`Tobin`	`blizz lern2server`
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`14:51.18`	`Oridan`	`grrr`
`14:51.24`	`Oridan`	`nothing more annoying than silly syntax mistakes`
`14:51.44`	`Oridan`	`seems to take years to launch the client, only to find i've missed off a self::`
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`14:52.04`	`Xuerian`	`Oridan: get the lua binaries`
`14:52.17`	`Xuerian`	`luac5.1 -p %F <--- Check syntax`
`14:53.15`	`Xuerian`	`If your editor supports debuggers/running commands, you can tell it to run the current file past luac5.1 and output the result to some message box. :)`
`14:53.53`	`Oridan`	`hrm oki i'll do that, thx :)`
`14:54.02`	`Xuerian`	`If you're going to test it in wow, though, just leave it running and /reload each time.`
`14:54.39`	`Oridan`	`ahh i wasnt sure if /reload actully re-initiated the scripts or not`
`14:55.21`	`Xuerian`	`Reloading/relogging reloads everything Except files that did not exist when wow was started up that time.`
`14:55.51`	`Oridan`	`ahh ic, so the toc is processed on client launch, and the files within are processed on ui load`
`14:56.09`	`Xuerian`	`Nope, you can change the toc too.`
`14:56.16`	`Oridan`	`oh!`
`14:56.18`	`Oridan`	`ok :D`
`14:56.32`	`Oridan`	`should make things much easier for me :D`
`14:56.33`	`Xuerian`	`But if the file literally didn't exist when wow started up, your scripts won't see it/it won't load till you actually restart wow`
`14:58.14`	`arduran`	`good to know :-) i didn�t know that, too`
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`15:00.19`	`Daemona`	`it parses all files that are in the interface folder on wow startup.`
`15:00.43`	`Daemona`	`so if you decide damn i need a "utilities.lua" for code-cleaning that wont be loaded until you restart the client`
`15:01.38`	`sylvanaar`	`Daemona what if it was in the toc already?`
`15:02.11`	`mitch0`	`hm. spellstrike or battlecast? :)`
`15:02.15`	`sylvanaar`	`but the file didnt exist`
`15:02.50`	`nevcairiel`	`still not`
`15:02.53`	`Daemona`	`i guess you would have an error then for missing .lua file ;)=`
`15:03.35`	`Daemona`	`as far as i understood it, wow creates a table of all files and it places on startup and refers to it`
`15:03.51`	`Daemona`	`but hell i havent meddled with lua for over a year ;)`
`15:04.01`	`Daemona`	`and only minor 2 line addons ;)`
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`15:10.12`	`spychalski`	`i wanna play :<`
`15:10.37`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
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`15:16.22`	`Oridan`	`zomg this is annoying`
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`15:17.08`	`Xuerian`	`Oridan: You in the us or gb?`
`15:17.12`	`Oridan`	`gb`
`15:17.18`	`Xuerian`	`Ah.`
`15:17.20`	`Oridan`	`for my sins`
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`15:17.49`	`neenee`	`Oridan: Nah, that would be Australia`
`15:17.59`	`Xuerian`	`Quite literally.`
`15:18.00`	`JJSheets`	`lol Xuerian`
`15:18.01`	`Oridan`	`hehe, like the good old days`
`15:21.46`	`Oridan`	`ugh gatherer stores its own id for item types :/`
`15:23.25`	`neenee`	`evl: Scavenger doesn't seem to report the price. It shows 0.00g`
`15:29.26`	`CIA-17`	`03darchon * r28599 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed - Updated locales koKR`
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`15:38.39`	`BankZ`	`is there anyway to have agUF disable during a raid?`
`15:38.50`	`nevcairiel`	`just toggle the "hide frame in raid"`
`15:38.58`	`nevcairiel`	`on every frame`
`15:39.03`	`BankZ`	`hmmm`
`15:39.03`	`nevcairiel`	`but full disable, i dont think so`
`15:39.20`	`BankZ`	`hmmm, I didnt see that on the "player" frame`
`15:39.30`	`BankZ`	`musta been blind`
`15:39.33`	`jjb_`	`good afternoon`
`15:39.34`	`nevcairiel`	`hm`
`15:39.38`	`nevcairiel`	`not sure if its even there`
`15:39.47`	`nevcairiel`	`who would want that anyway ? :D`
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`15:40.43`	`BankZ`	`me :)`
`15:40.49`	`BankZ`	`cuz I am already in the raid`
`15:41.12`	`BankZ`	`dont need myself on the screen twice`
`15:41.23`	`JJSheets`	`blasphemy!!!!`
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`15:53.18`	`krka`	`damn it... i just came up with a better name for FAIAP`
`15:53.21`	`krka`	`BiteCode`
`15:53.50`	`krka`	`hey JJSheets, how long have you been here? :)`
`15:53.58`	`JoshBorke`	`naw krka, i like FAIAP better`
`15:53.59`	`krka`	`i have updated FAIAP quite a lot`
`15:54.06`	`krka`	`want to test it for me?`
`15:54.18`	`JJSheets`	`I would if the servers were up. :)`
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`15:54.19`	`krka`	`note, i haven't run it _at all_ so it's probably broken in a couple of small ways`
`15:54.23`	`krka`	`oh i see`
`15:54.29`	`JJSheets`	`but send it anyway. :)`
`15:54.34`	`krka`	`i added two functions... enable and disable`
`15:54.35`	`JJSheets`	`I'll test it after work`
`15:54.36`	`Thorgard_`	`FAIAP?`
`15:54.38`	`krka`	`should work pretty transparently`
`15:54.41`	`krka`	`cool`
`15:54.47`	`JJSheets`	`FAIAP For All Indents and Purposes`
`15:54.56`	`Thorgard_`	`Sounds like the devil.`
`15:54.57`	`krka`	`it's in ALPHA stage though... feel free to fix any bugs you find that are easy to locate and send it back`
`15:55.02`	`JoshBorke`	`krka: it doesn't like it when you post an entire lua file for it to parse`
`15:55.03`	`krka`	`i'll zip it up`
`15:55.11`	`JJSheets`	`it's a Lua Syntax Highlighter for stuff like TinyPad and my Omnibus.`
`15:55.41`	`krka`	`JoshBorke: sounds true, i haven't tried :)`
`15:55.53`	`krka`	`it's _possible_ that new FAIAP will fix a few bugs`
`15:56.00`	`JJSheets`	`niftay`
`15:56.51`	`krka`	`http://kristofer.no-ip.info/~krka/tmp/ForAllIndentsAndPurposes.17-alpha.zip`
`15:57.02`	`krka`	`i redesigned a lot of the hooking-stuff`
`15:57.34`	`krka`	`would be nice if you could possibly test enabling / disabling a lot of times and see if it still works`
`15:57.47`	`Oridan`	`anyone know anything about AceLocale ?`
`15:57.48`	`krka`	`disabling should remove any coloring / unhook and enabling should add coloring / hook`
`15:58.16`	`Oridan`	`i need to know if aceLocale is case-sensative`
`15:58.36`	`JoshBorke`	`Oridan: yes`
`15:59.00`	`JJSheets`	`krka, I'll give it a spin tonight, might be ten hours from now, I have a service call after my regular business hours tonight.`
`15:59.01`	`Oridan`	`ok thx`
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`15:59.10`	`krka`	`np, i am not in any rush`
`15:59.18`	`JJSheets`	`cool`
`15:59.28`	`krka`	`actually, i think you are my entire user base at the moment`
`15:59.34`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`15:59.36`	`deltron`	`lol`
`15:59.46`	`krka`	`(i'm not even included in that)`
`15:59.48`	`deltron`	`what mod?`
`16:00.04`	`JJSheets`	`For all indents and purposes`
`16:00.08`	`deltron`	`oh FAI...`
`16:03.42`	`JJSheets`	`krka, looks about right, I think it'll do good.`
`16:03.48`	`krka`	`seen the changes?`
`16:03.52`	`krka`	`i could post a diff too`
`16:04.01`	`JJSheets`	`cleans up some stuff I hadn't thought about too. No diff necessary.`
`16:04.22`	`JJSheets`	`I'll just copy the indent.lua over my custom and fiddle with my mod to use it properly.`
`16:05.27`	`krka`	`http://pastey.net/6906`
`16:05.39`	`krka`	`you get diff anyway`
`16:05.58`	`krka`	`yeah, it's a bit cleaned up now`
`16:06.10`	`krka`	`uses less closures too`
`16:06.15`	`krka`	`and much better hooking`
`16:07.20`	`Groll`	`lawl :P http://www.break.com/index/screwing_the_country.html`
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`16:07.49`	`krka`	`hm, unified is prettier: http://pastey.net/6907`
`16:08.45`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`16:10.27`	`krka`	`time to go home!`
`16:10.57`	`JJSheets`	`time to go to work for me. :)`
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`16:12.49`	`JJSheets`	`Groll, roflmfao hahahahahahahahahahahaha`
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`16:14.57`	`JJSheets`	`adios ya'll work calls and there's no WoW to make me procrastinate this morning!`
`16:15.04`	`Health`	`Is the chess event still cake easy?`
`16:15.09`	`Oridan`	`hahaha thats brilliant Groll`
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`16:19.07`	`deltron`	`man i just realized my guild is huge heh`
`16:19.26`	`sylvanaar`	`i made a thread on the forum - post old screenshots of your UI from like 1+ years ago or more`
`16:20.07`	`neenee`	`deltron: How large?`
`16:22.05`	`deltron`	`228+`
`16:22.53`	`deltron`	`http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?guildid=955699`
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`16:24.27`	`Thorgard_`	`Wow.`
`16:24.31`	`Thorgard_`	`228 people? :o`
`16:24.45`	`deltron`	`48 level 70's :P`
`16:24.47`	`Thorgard_`	`Ah, I guess 288 characters.`
`16:24.59`	`Thorgard_`	`Err, 228.`
`16:25.01`	`haste`	`how many accounts?`
`16:25.05`	`nevcairiel`	`./ginfo`
`16:25.06`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`16:25.07`	`neenee`	`435 characters in mine, but only 134 accounts`
`16:25.12`	`deltron`	`130 or so`
`16:25.23`	`nevcairiel`	`heh, mine has exactly 100 chars and 50 accounts`
`16:25.24`	`nevcairiel`	`nice`
`16:25.41`	`Thorgard_`	`Got.. 42 or so characters in mine.. and 38 or so accounts. ;P`
`16:25.44`	`deltron`	`oh 162 accts`
`16:25.50`	`neenee`	`Well, I don't know half half as well as I would like to know them`
`16:26.02`	`neenee`	`Sometimes I wish we were a more casual guild`
`16:26.20`	`deltron`	`i wish i wasn't so casual :P`
`16:27.02`	`Thrae`	`http://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow/downloads/list <-- please test PerfectTargets`
`16:27.37`	`[Ammo]`	`display only I suppose?`
`16:28.02`	`art3mis`	`wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee`
`16:28.15`	`Thrae`	`[Ammo]: Was that to me?`
`16:28.34`	`Thrae`	`Oh, right. No, click support is relatively impossible now.`
`16:28.42`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah was to you`
`16:28.55`	`[Ammo]`	`was just pondering about just displaying 5 targets for your party`
`16:28.58`	`[Ammo]`	`if you're in a party`
`16:29.02`	`[Ammo]`	`those can be clickable`
`16:29.07`	`[Ammo]`	`since they're party1target etc`
`16:29.23`	`Thrae`	`However, if you set your focus as your main assist, it'll tell you if you're not targeting the same thing as your focus.`
`16:29.26`	`deltron`	`http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/530/wowscrnshot020807075129ig0.jpg <-- holy cow look at teemo`
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`16:30.29`	`Thrae`	`[Ammo]: PerfectTargets was more designed for raid, I could add that feature to WhackAMole`
`16:30.58`	`Thrae`	`Although personally I'd rather do /assist focus then have to click a frame`
`16:31.11`	`Amadeo`	`There any good free multiplayer games these days? Not FPS, I already know of those`
`16:31.42`	`Azurewrath`	`mhm, there was some racing game.. forgot the name though`
`16:31.52`	`Thrae`	`My buff macro is [nocombat] Buff; /assist [combat] focus`
`16:32.15`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`16:32.35`	`Thrae`	`Amadeo: Diablo, WC!`
`16:32.57`	`Barbanus`	`deltron, yea, it not that hard to get that kind of HP now`
`16:33.04`	`Barbanus`	`his attack power is shit tho I bet`
`16:33.18`	`haste`	`Baldur's Gate!`
`16:33.22`	`Amadeo`	`Diablo is free now?`
`16:33.30`	`deltron`	`heh i bet`
`16:33.31`	`haste`	`probably not`
`16:33.33`	`Thrae`	`It's like $10`
`16:33.47`	`Amadeo`	`yeah but then I'd have to actually FIND it somewhere :)`
`16:33.53`	`Thrae`	`Internets!`
`16:34.10`	`Amadeo`	`I love BG2 though`
`16:34.26`	`Thrae`	`Well you said non-FPS`
`16:34.26`	`Azurewrath`	`Amadeo: ah.. Trackmania was the name i guess`
`16:34.35`	`Thorgard_`	`Amadeo, you can play the demo of Live For Speed. ;P`
`16:34.39`	`Thrae`	`Oh wait, BG2, not BF2`
`16:34.45`	`Amadeo`	`yeah :)`
`16:34.51`	`Amadeo`	`Baldur's Gate is awesome, best RPG ever!`
`16:34.54`	`Thorgard_`	`Ugh.`
`16:34.55`	`Thorgard_`	`No. ;P`
`16:34.59`	`Thorgard_`	`Fallout, damnit.`
`16:35.07`	`Amadeo`	`I doubt Fallout is as in depth as BG!`
`16:35.09`	`Thrae`	`Fallout isn't multiplayer`
`16:35.23`	`Oridan`	`anyone know how to catch an error being thrown? pcall doesnt seem to work`
`16:35.24`	`Thrae`	`Where is my Fallout 3 dammit`
`16:35.25`	`Thorgard_`	`No, but it's the best RPG ever. ;P`
`16:35.26`	`Amadeo`	`Did Fallout come with a War and Peace size manual!?`
`16:35.55`	`Thorgard_`	`Thrae, yeah, gief Fallout 3, Bethesda!`
`16:35.56`	`haste`	`Fallout was also pretty cool`
`16:35.57`	`Thrae`	`I must have played Fallout 2 abou a bazillion imes`
`16:36.03`	`Oridan`	`i'm trying to catch a babblezone Reverse Translation lookup`
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`16:36.10`	`mitch0`	`I liked wizardry 7 more than fallout`
`16:36.19`	`mitch0`	`not same style, but meh`
`16:36.52`	`Thorgard_`	`I love Fallout 2's setting and mechanics system.`
`16:37.07`	`Rycochet`	`might and magic 1, 2 and 3 ;-)`
`16:37.22`	`Rycochet`	`though my favorite single one - ambermoon`
`16:37.49`	`Thorgard_`	`Fallout 3's gonna be rated M for mature, this makes me happy. ;P`
`16:37.50`	`Thrae`	`Thorgard_: I liked playing it straight and also doing the Power Suit MKII rush`
`16:37.55`	`Rycochet`	`not on such an rpg idea - captive`
`16:38.31`	`art3mis`	`noooooooooooooooooooooooo`
`16:38.42`	`art3mis`	`yeah baldurs gate was pretty rad`
`16:38.43`	`deltron`	`god I wish you could change the opacity of windows in vista`
`16:39.06`	`art3mis`	`i swear thers a piece of software for win32 to do that`
`16:39.15`	`Rycochet`	`there is`
`16:39.19`	`Rycochet`	`several`
`16:39.25`	`Thrae`	`Thorgard_: Ever did the rush? Go out and kill Deathclaws in the first 40 minutes ;)`
`16:39.32`	`Thorgard_`	`Speaking of Fallout 3, http://www.shacknews.com/extras/2007/020807_petehines_2.x`
`16:39.42`	`art3mis`	`bb4win, litestep, darkstep, afterstep ;)`
`16:39.43`	`Rycochet`	`vista has got nothing that you can't do in xp - except the 3d hardware doing it`
`16:39.46`	`Thorgard_`	`Thrae, nah. ;P I'm a slowpoke, I do everything very slowly.`
`16:39.57`	`Thrae`	`Thorgard_: Know how to do it?`
`16:40.07`	`Thorgard_`	`Thrae, nein.`
`16:40.10`	`deltron`	`lol I can't use that art3mis :P`
`16:40.12`	`Thrae`	`You should try it, very fun`
`16:40.18`	`deltron`	`I wish there was a way built in to change it`
`16:40.25`	`deltron`	`I don't see why they didn't`
`16:40.48`	`art3mis`	`cuz that would take programming skill of course ;P`
`16:40.52`	`deltron`	`makes it so easy since I don't have dual screens :P`
`16:41.13`	`Thrae`	`Thorgard_: Get the car or WALK over to the Army Base (obviously you've had to had played the game once), have enough bluff power to get past the initial hooded guy, get the Power Suit MKII and the weapons from the lockers, then go on with the game`
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`16:41.22`	`deltron`	`meh i'll toss xubuntu on my dev box :P`
`16:41.36`	`art3mis`	`dont do it!`
`16:41.41`	`art3mis`	`it's a trick`
`16:41.42`	`deltron`	`eh why?`
`16:41.47`	`Thorgard_`	`Thrae, evil. ;P`
`16:41.47`	`art3mis`	`i dunno`
`16:41.49`	`art3mis`	`hehe`
`16:41.56`	`art3mis`	`give freespire a try`
`16:42.02`	`art3mis`	`its pretty groovy`
`16:42.23`	`Thrae`	`Thorgard_: Then you can really do the game in any order you please`
`16:42.37`	`Thrae`	`Not to mention it helps with Small Frame`
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`16:43.53`	`deltron`	`hmm freespire is built on debian also`
`16:43.54`	`Thrae`	`Thorgard_: Also, if you haven't make sure you patch. It fixes some money-making loopholes while also allowing giving vendors much more cash.`
`16:43.57`	`deltron`	`eeenteresting`
`16:44.17`	`Thorgard_`	`Thrae, aye.`
`16:44.19`	`Fisker-`	`yay`
`16:44.21`	`Fisker-`	`fap with me`
`16:44.24`	`Fisker-`	`i'm gonna get 8Mbit`
`16:44.32`	`Fisker-`	`fappingly fast`
`16:44.50`	`Thrae`	`Fisker-: I have 12mbit`
`16:44.50`	`Amadeo`	`Thrae: I settled on Continuum for now :P`
`16:44.58`	`Yinchie`	`and i have 20mbit`
`16:45.01`	`Fisker-`	`QQ`
`16:45.08`	`deltron`	`i might get 10mbit`
`16:45.13`	`deltron`	`but don't see much use for it :P`
`16:45.13`	`Thrae`	`I can't play games like Fallout anymore`
`16:45.18`	`Thrae`	`I get waaaay too addicted`
`16:45.50`	`Thorgard_`	`Thrae, I hear you.. I've been hooked on UFO Afterlight for a while now.. God damn character development games. ;P`
`16:46.21`	`Thrae`	`I'm working full-time with a healthy amount of hobbies already`
`16:46.34`	`Thrae`	`I even stopped watching Anime recently`
`16:46.55`	`Oridan`	`why isnt this working? ::: transResult, transName = pcall(BZ:GetReverseTranslation,zName)`
`16:46.56`	`Thrae`	`Well, that's because my download box was full, 600/700GB`
`16:47.02`	`Thorgard_`	`Thrae, blasphemy.`
`16:47.17`	`Oridan`	`it just says its expecting args o.0`
`16:47.22`	`Thrae`	`690/700`
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`16:47.37`	`Dhraga`	`Lo all`
`16:47.49`	`Dhraga`	`ckknight, you there mate ?`
`16:47.51`	`Thrae`	`Oridan: I don't think that's how you use pcall`
`16:48.22`	`Oridan`	`hrm, it seems to be: pcall(f, arg1, arg2, ...)`
`16:48.37`	`Thrae`	`Oridan: Ah wait, I see`
`16:48.53`	`Thrae`	`transResult, transName = pcall(BZ.GetReverseTranslation,BZ,zName)`
`16:49.03`	`Oridan`	`oh :O`
`16:49.14`	`Thorgard_`	`Hmmm.. anyone know of a partitioning software that lets you repartition drives on the fly, without having to format and the like.`
`16:49.15`	`Oridan`	`you have to pass the instance as an arg ?`
`16:49.40`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Thorgard_: PartitionMagic does it.`
`16:49.41`	`Thrae`	`Oridan: Foo:FunctionFoo is only for calling a function`
`16:49.51`	`Thorgard_`	`Antiarc\|Work, ah, yeah, that's what it was.`
`16:49.54`	`Thorgard_`	`Antiarc\|Work, thanks.`
`16:50.00`	`Oridan`	`ahh, not the function identifier, gotcha`
`16:50.02`	`Thrae`	`Oridan: It does Foo.FunctionFoo(self,...)`
`16:50.31`	`Thrae`	`Oridan: Remember that Foo is simply a table. Foo:FunctionFoo is Lua magic which passes self (Foo) to the function call`
`16:50.48`	`Thrae`	`Where Foo.FunctionFoo is the function reference kept in the Foo table`
`16:51.05`	`Oridan`	`gotcha`
`16:51.08`	`Oridan`	`thanks :)`
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`16:53.07`	`deltron`	`art3mis: freespire looks nice, but I can get that and more in ubuntu`
`16:55.50`	`chutwig`	`i would back up first anyway before messing with partitionmagic`
`16:55.55`	`chutwig`	`they call it PartitionTragic for a reason`
`16:56.16`	`haste`	`reminds me of "plug and pray" back in the old days`
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`16:56.39`	`Oridan`	`ahhh yes finally, it works :D`
`16:57.06`	`Oridan`	`importing of Gatherer dbVersion2 into cartographer :D`
`16:57.08`	`Ironhand`	`I just installed Cartographer_Opening but it doesn't seem to actually do anything - how do I confirm it's working correctly?`
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`17:03.01`	`arduran`	`gratulation Oridan`
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`17:06.25`	`art3mis`	`deltron: yeah all the new "versions" of linux these days are just new custom installs of the same branch, ones as good as the next when it comes right now to it ;P`
`17:06.32`	`sylvanaar`	`lol`
`17:06.44`	`sylvanaar`	`partitiontradjic is so out of date`
`17:06.49`	`Srosh`	`is there a macro command to open a profession panel?`
`17:06.50`	`art3mis`	`if yer into more of a tweak and tinker mindset fer fbsd ;P`
`17:07.02`	`art3mis`	`custom kernels are the pwnzor`
`17:07.08`	`Ironhand`	`Srosh: /cast Professionname`
`17:07.14`	`neenee`	`Just choose one and stick with it.`
`17:07.15`	`Srosh`	`nice, thanks`
`17:07.15`	`chutwig`	`the "pwnzor"?`
`17:07.19`	`chutwig`	`i smell a gentoo user`
`17:07.21`	`art3mis`	`yeah`
`17:07.23`	`sylvanaar`	`Acronis Disk Director`
`17:07.27`	`neenee`	`I was a gentoo user`
`17:07.29`	`art3mis`	`he's a robot from transformers ;P`
`17:07.43`	`art3mis`	`he's made up of the mini pwnicons`
`17:07.52`	`art3mis`	`or pwni's for short`
`17:07.53`	`neenee`	`But after a while each distro can be made to work for you anyway, so just choose one you're comfortable with :)`
`17:08.01`	`art3mis`	`nods neenee`
`17:08.12`	`art3mis`	`gentoow as nice when it came out`
`17:08.22`	`art3mis`	`so was mandrake thoough`
`17:08.23`	`deltron`	`gentoo made my brain hurt`
`17:08.39`	`art3mis`	`but ive been a daemon worshipper since 1.1.6`
`17:08.53`	`deltron`	`you'd upgrade packages on your box and then all of a sudden your system isn't bootable :P`
`17:08.55`	`neenee`	`I ended up with debian because it worked well for me and I could just use my system without having to worry about updating and breaking a le.. I mean package.`
`17:09.06`	`Oridan`	`!ace Cartographer_Import`
`17:09.07`	`neenee`	`But no more X vs X discussions from me`
`17:09.07`	`Adirelle\|work`	`http://www.koreus.com/media/farador-dd.html`
`17:09.09`	`neenee`	`Dinner now :)`
`17:09.11`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`17:09.16`	`art3mis`	`go eat!!`
`17:09.17`	`Oridan`	`arg, i want to know who made it :o`
`17:09.21`	`deltron`	`I used to use debian, switched to ubuntu heh`
`17:09.24`	`chutwig`	`i like debian`
`17:09.31`	`chutwig`	`and ubuntu`
`17:09.33`	`art3mis`	`oh and for everyone that has cart problems with the waypoints and instance loots`
`17:09.41`	`art3mis`	`i know how to fix it now ;)`
`17:10.01`	`art3mis`	`im so special`
`17:10.12`	`Thorgard_`	`orly?`
`17:10.28`	`art3mis`	`as long as you've got a dir called Cartographer_WayPoints in yer addons dir`
`17:10.44`	`art3mis`	`all ya need to do is rm the contents of the Cartographer/ folder`
`17:10.59`	`art3mis`	`then use wau to update ONLY that one without externals`
`17:10.59`	`Oridan`	`whats the best way of getting in touch with ckknight ?`
`17:11.04`	`Thorgard`	`:o`
`17:11.12`	`art3mis`	`and then enable them in game`
`17:11.16`	`Thorgard`	`Oridan, I'd say.. through this channel. ;P`
`17:11.20`	`Zicon`	`oridan: Say "hi ckknight". :P`
`17:11.33`	`Oridan`	`only ever seen him talk once :D`
`17:11.39`	`art3mis`	`or even better "hey ckk yer addon sucks why can't i........"`
`17:11.48`	`Thorgard`	`That too.`
`17:11.53`	`art3mis`	`he'll come on all bitchy and cranky but he'll be here ;P`
`17:11.56`	`Oridan`	`ckknight: i've got a modified carto_import for you - works with new versions of the gatherer db !`
`17:12.08`	`Oridan`	`^^ hope that works`
`17:12.10`	`Zicon`	`art3mis: Pff. If you're going that route, just start talking about ACE. That'll get his attention in no time.`
`17:12.17`	`art3mis`	`hahah yeah`
`17:12.24`	`art3mis`	`thats the great thing about irc`
`17:12.39`	`art3mis`	`all you need to do is say one wrong thing and someone WILL correct you`
`17:12.57`	`Oridan`	`i've got it`
`17:12.58`	`art3mis`	`they cant help themselves`
`17:12.59`	`Thorgard`	`Oridan, that's some horrible tabcompletion. ;P`
`17:13.05`	`durcyn`	`has anyone ever told you that you talk far too much, artemis?`
`17:13.13`	`Oridan`	`ckknight, tell me about AceComm !!`
`17:13.14`	`art3mis`	`many people many times`
`17:13.21`	`Oridan`	`haha yep it is Thorgard`
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`17:15.42`	`Oridan`	`hehe well, i'd best hoover up before i get beat up by the missus`
`17:16.18`	`Oridan`	`oo before i do that, i'll upload this yata fix`
`17:18.33`	`CIA-17`	`03oridan * r28600 10Yata/Core.lua:`
`17:18.33`	`CIA-17`	`Yata:`
`17:18.33`	`CIA-17`	`- Fix to stop Yata from disabling KingOfTheJungle instead of itself.`
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`17:18.46`	`Oridan`	`^^ my first update :D`
`17:19.22`	`Thorgard`	`Oridan, you're not a virgin anymore..`
`17:19.24`	`Thorgard`	`.. you slut.`
`17:19.50`	`Oridan`	`;)`
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`17:22.23`	`CIA-17`	`03pettigrow * r28601 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer: frFR Update`
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`17:24.07`	`SkorcherX`	`what up`
`17:26.36`	`TheKarn`	`can someone work on a WAU like script that updates all addons without externals but grabs all required libs?`
`17:27.06`	`durcyn`	`erm, there a reason you can't just use wau in no-externals mode?`
`17:27.58`	`TheKarn`	`a, every shortcut in WAU uses externals. b, it doesnt grab down any required libs`
`17:28.34`	`Oridan`	`? you can update with or without externals in wau`
`17:28.47`	`_neuron_`	`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=173227480&sid=1 <-- pure gold`
`17:28.59`	`Oridan`	`i just update without, but make sure you have !StandAloneLibs ticked`
`17:29.31`	`TheKarn`	`i dont want libs i dont use`
`17:29.31`	`TheKarn`	`i only want required libs`
`17:29.45`	`durcyn`	`then you'd need to cobble together a script to read the tocs`
`17:30.08`	`durcyn`	`a good time to learn a scripting language, n'est-ce pas?`
`17:30.20`	`TheKarn`	`durcyn, i know scripting languages`
`17:30.29`	`TheKarn`	`i _could_ write one from scratch`
`17:30.43`	`durcyn`	`i quote: "can someone work on a WAU like script"`
`17:30.48`	`durcyn`	`that someone is you, it sounds like.`
`17:32.12`	`sylvanaar`	`no joke, can someone walk my dog and clean my house lol`
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`17:33.41`	`durcyn`	`here, i'll even get you started. for /F %a in ('dir /on /ad/b') do for /F "delims=, tokens=*" %b in ('find OptionalDeps %a\%a.toc') do <something> %b`
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`17:35.18`	`sylvanaar`	`it all depends on how much you value your time`
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`17:35.34`	`CIA-17`	`03trh * r28602 10VanasKoS/ (VanasKoS.lua VanasKoS.toc VanasKoSLocals.lua changelog.txt):`
`17:35.35`	`CIA-17`	`VanasKoS:`
`17:35.35`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed a bug in /kadd`
`17:35.35`	`CIA-17`	`- clearified message in upper area to player or guild kos`
`17:35.40`	`TheKarn`	`durcyn, the reason i ponderednon someone else doing it was i dont have much time`
`17:35.49`	`TheKarn`	`i also cant use bash scripting as i'm a winblows user`
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`17:35.59`	`kenlyric\|home`	`man, postal keeps just randomly stopping the Open All function`
`17:36.12`	`sylvanaar`	`lol you could put !!!StandaloneLibraries.nounpack in`
`17:37.39`	`kenlyric\|home`	`well, it's the mailboxes fault this time`
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`17:38.26`	`sylvanaar`	`its actually a very irritating problem because it relieson toc's being corrent`
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`17:40.22`	`TheKarn`	`i was thinking of making the files script generate a deps.txt file that has a list of all the local externals, that way any WAU like client could automagically install all deps that are required by a mod, but install them globally instead of as part of the addon you're installing.`
`17:41.01`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r28603 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Disabled listening to DM for now, as it is not fully implemented`
`17:41.11`	`TheKarn`	`for instance, you enable QuestsFu and it automatically installs Quintux (or whatever the lib is)`
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`17:42.21`	`Klazar`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:42.38`	Punkie`	`nice`
`17:42.59`	`TheKarn`	`heh gz`
`17:43.14`	`Klazar`	`lol shit`
`17:43.33`	`Fisker-`	`you're a fucking IDIOT`
`17:43.33`	`Fisker-`	`:P`
`17:43.44`	`TheKarn`	`... don't worry that came up as ****** on my screen...`
`17:43.52`	`Fisker-`	`yeah same here`
`17:43.52`	`Fisker-`	`:P`
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`17:44.10`	`TheKarn`	`look see ... i'll copy and paste it: *2thdk`
`17:44.22`	Punkie`	`it comes up right on mine :o`
`17:44.34`	`TheKarn`	`Punkie ... learn to bash.org`
`17:44.39`	Punkie`	`:'(`
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`17:46.34`	`NeoTron`	`Hmm /msg NickServ GHOST... :)`
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`17:47.10`	`NeoTron`	`although that is exactly the reason that I always do that particular operation in a irssi=window not connected to a channel. :)`
`17:47.21`	`TheKarn`	`yeah`
`17:47.27`	`TheKarn`	`well ... i dont use /msg either`
`17:47.39`	`TheKarn`	`incase i msg some random user`
`17:47.50`	`TheKarn`	`/ns for me`
`17:47.59`	`pastamancer`	`auomate it and forget about it`
`17:48.05`	`pastamancer`	`s/auomate/automate/`
`17:48.13`	`Barbanus`	`"My friend got banned for swearing at other players, but he has tourettes!" ... /sigh`
`17:48.22`	`NeoTron`	`Barbanus: right`
`17:48.24`	`pastamancer`	`Barbanus: general forums?`
`17:48.25`	`kenlyric\|home`	`it's a seriously broken irc client that sends / commands to the chat window if they aren't valid.`
`17:48.31`	`Barbanus`	`pastamancer, haha yea`
`17:48.31`	`Feldia`	`banned from the game?`
`17:48.39`	`kenlyric\|home`	`gaim does it, and it's fucking annoying.`
`17:48.41`	`Feldia`	`oh the forums`
`17:48.42`	`Feldia`	`who cares`
`17:48.52`	`TheKarn`	`yeah mine checks for commands by first doing an lstrip`
`17:48.52`	`NeoTron`	`kenlyric\|home: it was space prior to the /msg was it not?`
`17:48.54`	`pastamancer`	`Barbanus: I dare not read that cesspool`
`17:48.58`	`kenlyric\|home`	`tourettes doesn't make you swear when typing :)`
`17:49.02`	`Barbanus`	`No, the guy was aparantly banned from the game .. its still a rediculous claim :P`
`17:49.27`	`Barbanus`	`kenlyric\|home, exactly.`
`17:49.27`	`Feldia`	`it's a lie`
`17:49.27`	`Feldia`	`I've been warned more times than I can count for cursing`
`17:49.27`	`Feldia`	`and never banned`
`17:49.43`	`NeoTron`	`ah but the reason is always something outrageous`
`17:49.57`	`pastamancer`	`I'll bet the "friend" was banned for botting`
`17:50.00`	`NeoTron`	`the fact that the dude ran a 23 hr a day farming business with a bot, selling the proceeds, is unrelated`
`17:50.12`	`Feldia`	`of course!`
`17:50.27`	`Barbanus`	`NeoTron, but he was unjustly banned!`
`17:50.33`	`Klazar`	`well i dropped the nick so much for that. im using chartzilla btw`
`17:50.55`	`Barbanus`	`my friend got reported and warned for spamming "me lo ve y ou" to horde ...`
`17:51.04`	`Barbanus`	`and he thought it was unfair`
`17:51.13`	`OverloadUT`	`Totally against the tos :P`
`17:51.34`	`Barbanus`	`I'm like .. WTF? .. you broke two rules ... bypassing the language barrier, and spamming.....`
`17:51.42`	`OverloadUT`	`Haha yeah`
`17:51.58`	`pastamancer`	`he should have gone for the trifecta: tourettes, aspergers, and dyslexia. Then he could be a foul-mouthed jerk with horrible spelling`
`17:52.08`	`OverloadUT`	`I don't understand how people can cry foul when they get suspended/warned for clearly breaking the TOS that they have to agree to each and every patch`
`17:52.08`	`Feldia`	`no way Barbanus, everyone is always completely innocent!`
`17:52.09`	`Barbanus`	`pastamancer, rofl`
`17:52.23`	`Barbanus`	`OverloadUT, you and me both.`
`17:53.15`	`NeoTron`	`that said I once had a "friend" (didn't like him much, thus the quotes) in the guild that got a 3-day ban for cheating (speed hacking/teleporting with a third party app)`
`17:53.26`	`NeoTron`	`he didn't get bitter, blame blizzard or otherwise try to escape guilt`
`17:53.47`	`NeoTron`	`he did instead almost admire Blizzard for catching him so fast`
`17:53.48`	`OverloadUT`	`I mean, you aren't clicking a button that says "I think these rules are fair and just and I will follow them" - all you're saying is "I will follow these rules no matter how wacky they are" - some people think that if they think a rule is stupid they don't have to follow it. :P`
`17:53.57`	`OverloadUT`	`Come to think of it, that's how a lot of people behave in real life...`
`17:54.06`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I think that.`
`17:55.29`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I also didn't complain when I got caught :)`
`17:55.29`	`OverloadUT`	`Hehe okay there is a big difference in the second group`
`17:55.29`	`OverloadUT`	`The people that know they're doing something wrong and accept it when they get caught. Or the people that once they are caught still try to argue that somehow they weren't doing anything wrong. :P`
`17:55.30`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r28604 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2\Babble-Ore-2.2: fixed a de trnalsaiton for iron ore`
`17:56.05`	`Barbanus`	`heh`
`17:56.33`	`OverloadUT`	`So when libraries get updated with a bug fix like that, and only a couple of the mods release a new version with the updated lib, is the Ace2 lib loader smart enough to compare revision numbers to be sure the latest one is loaded?`
`17:56.47`	`kenlyric\|home`	`well, I was one of those people who got caught when glider got owned by blizzard, and watching how people reacted was quite humorous. It's like how all people in prison are innocent :)`
`17:57.01`	`Barbanus`	`OverloadUT, yes`
`17:57.13`	`OverloadUT`	`Ah okay that's cool.`
`17:57.22`	`durcyn`	`OverloadUT: depending on load order, but the old ones get garbagecollected eventually`
`17:57.33`	`OverloadUT`	`Man Ace2 is nice ;)`
`17:57.57`	`OverloadUT`	`I used to use a fishing bot a few years ago, but I justified it to myself that I wrote it from scratch so I deserved to use it ;)`
`17:58.07`	`OverloadUT`	`Somehow I don't think Bliz would feel the same way`
`17:58.18`	`Barbanus`	`it would do this: load 1.0, load 1.1 over 1.0, load 1.0 ... notice it is older than current .. toss, load 1.2 over 1.1 ... etc`
`17:58.26`	`kenlyric\|home`	`fishing was the reason I started too :)`
`17:58.49`	`kenlyric\|home`	`this time around, I've levelled fishing to 360, and I'm not quite sure how I've kept my sanity.`
`17:59.23`	`OverloadUT`	`I was just proud of how sophisticated it was, and it killed me that I couldn't release it. It even knew what type of fish it was catching, and only looted them if it was on the keep list. :P`
`17:59.48`	`kenlyric\|home`	`that's hot.`
`18:00.10`	`kenlyric\|home`	`fishing is a lot nicer now that sound can come through the background. I do it at work, and just alt-tab between.`
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`18:01.04`	`Barbanus`	`lol`
`18:01.12`	`OverloadUT`	`That's kind of cool. I'd do that if I didn't share an office :(`
`18:02.11`	`OverloadUT`	`Do I have to manually create the wiki page for my addon? For some reason I thought it pulled details from the TOC automatically.`
`18:02.14`	`shieldb`	`kenlyric\|home, trying to get a magic crawdad or just fishing for the sake of fishing?`
`18:02.26`	`kenlyric\|home`	`GOLDEN FISH STICKS!`
`18:03.32`	`OverloadUT`	`I used to do it to fish up Deviate Fish inside the Wailing Caverns. I had a nice fishing spot where I wouldn't aggro anything. It's how I made all my money years ago because people would buy stacks of 20 for 8g`
`18:03.51`	`shieldb`	`I <3 golden fish sticks. They sell great :)`
`18:04.01`	`OverloadUT`	`What are those?`
`18:04.04`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I had 37 stacks of nightfin soup :)`
`18:04.07`	`shieldb`	`+healing food`
`18:04.12`	`OverloadUT`	`Ah`
`18:04.14`	`kenlyric\|home`	`+44healing/20 spirit.`
`18:04.21`	`OverloadUT`	`Oh wow nice`
`18:04.30`	`shieldb`	`blackened sporefish isn't too shabby, either`
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`18:05.00`	`shieldb`	`20 stam / 8mp5`
`18:05.13`	`kenlyric\|home`	`mage food`
`18:06.10`	`shieldb`	`I play a rogue so both of them are "money food" to me`
`18:06.27`	`shieldb`	`though not as awesome as the elusive goldenscale vendorfish`
`18:06.30`	`NeoTron`	`so the question is, how tasty would blackened sporeggar be?`
`18:06.31`	`NeoTron`	`yum`
`18:06.51`	`NeoTron`	`I mean there's food using murlocs and sporeggar doesn't seem to be much more humanoid than murlocs :-P`
`18:07.00`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I just love that the healer food is fish sticks, that bastion of catholic school lunches.`
`18:07.29`	`NeoTron`	`I need to go kill basilisks`
`18:07.36`	`NeoTron`	`that food is nice`
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`18:07.53`	Funkeh`	`hey all`
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`18:08.43`	`kenlyric\|home`	`there's a fish version of that food too.`
`18:09.00`	`kenlyric\|home`	`unfortunately, it doesn't come from the same water as golden darter`
`18:10.43`	`art3mis`	`aww a little baby, aren't you cute, where's your mom?`
`18:10.55`	`art3mis`	`what i will not be condescended to if.......`
`18:11.18`	`art3mis`	`neo black sporefish is pretty groovy too`
`18:11.22`	`art3mis`	`blackened`
`18:11.29`	`art3mis`	`20spirit and 8/5 regen`
`18:11.58`	`nevcairiel`	`isnt it 20 sta and 8 regen?`
`18:12.05`	`art3mis`	`could be`
`18:12.12`	`art3mis`	`im not in game i ujust remember the regen`
`18:12.21`	`art3mis`	`i like making mooncloth too`
`18:12.34`	`art3mis`	`1 hour of 12/5 hp and mana is kinna cool`
`18:13.17`	`art3mis`	`but i better stop talking now before dur gets all pissy about people talking lots in an irc channel`
`18:14.40`	`kenlyric\|home`	`i'm a priest, so all food is regen food :)`
`18:14.53`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`18:14.57`	`art3mis`	`me too`
`18:15.05`	`art3mis`	`if it has only hp opn it it's hunter food`
`18:15.10`	`kenlyric\|home`	`god, the server sucks right now.`
`18:15.25`	`art3mis`	`well it did just come up from maint didnt it?`
`18:15.37`	`kenlyric\|home`	`yes.`
`18:15.48`	`kenlyric\|home`	`which means it should be better, not worse.`
`18:15.57`	`art3mis`	`guess who my new idol is these days`
`18:16.07`	`art3mis`	`not with 5million people logging it shoudlnt ;)`
`18:16.11`	`art3mis`	`Dark Alex`
`18:16.23`	`art3mis`	`the guy thats made custom firmwares for the psp`
`18:16.44`	`kenlyric\|home`	`no, this isn't login issues. This is, the server is completely hosed issues... can't talk to vendors, can't loot, mobs attack you but don't actually port to you, etc.`
`18:16.48`	`art3mis`	`plays movies properly, allows fullscreen upscale, plays rips and iso, and psx games`
`18:17.09`	`art3mis`	`nods and lots of people doing that will put a bog on the dbase servers`
`18:17.41`	`NeoTron`	`it's sort of depressing to realize that to buy all jewelcrafting designs it probably would cost in excess of 10000 gold with the current AH pricing`
`18:17.44`	`OverloadUT`	`art3mis: My idol in that arena is whoever makes XBMC`
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`18:17.57`	`art3mis`	`xbmc?`
`18:18.03`	`OverloadUT`	`Xbox Media Center`
`18:18.09`	`OverloadUT`	`For the Xbox 1`
`18:18.12`	`art3mis`	`ahh yeah that was pretty slick too`
`18:18.34`	`art3mis`	`but it's not as impressive when you consider that the xbox is just a glorified pc ;)`
`18:18.38`	`OverloadUT`	`I use it almost every day. I prefer using it over my TiVo or Comcast DVR or hell even the DVD player because the interface is just so slick and responsive`
`18:19.06`	`OverloadUT`	`True, but the fact remains that I can't find media center software for the PC that's as nice as XBMC ;)`
`18:19.31`	`OverloadUT`	`The only sad disadvantage is that the Xbox can't decode HD streams`
`18:19.36`	`OverloadUT`	`Just not enough juice`
`18:20.59`	`art3mis`	`yeah`
`18:21.07`	`art3mis`	`i do agree that its pretty nice`
`18:21.20`	`art3mis`	`what impresses me the most is hat within days there are hacks for stuff`
`18:21.32`	`art3mis`	`like the DA OE firmwarezx for psp`
`18:21.45`	`OverloadUT`	`Yep. The competitive spirit is very powerful ;)`
`18:21.48`	`art3mis`	`3.10came out and not more than 4 hours the custom was out`
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`18:22.16`	`art3mis`	`ad you know its gotta piss a lot of people off that it takes 4 hopurs to break thier encryption they worked weeks on`
`18:22.27`	`OverloadUT`	`Well they probably have access to the Sony dev site indirectly`
`18:22.32`	`art3mis`	`yeah`
`18:22.36`	`OverloadUT`	`I mean hell I have a login ;)`
`18:22.50`	`art3mis`	`and the fact that i can now play psx games o my psp is so awesome`
`18:22.59`	`art3mis`	`was playing re3 on the train the other day`
`18:23.33`	`art3mis`	`had some black kid stop playing gta to look over and ask if that was resident evil and when they put it out for the psp ;P`
`18:23.47`	`OverloadUT`	`Haha`
`18:23.50`	`art3mis`	`and thus another pirate is born`
`18:23.52`	`art3mis`	`;)`
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`18:28.53`	`ckknight`	`Zicon: it's Ace, not ACE`
`18:29.06`	`ckknight`	`Dhraga: I'm here now`
`18:29.15`	`ckknight`	`Oridan: what's the issue?`
`18:29.19`	`Dhraga`	`Ah nice, so am I ck`
`18:29.48`	`krka`	`ckknight: lol next you'll say it's Lua, not LUA!`
`18:30.00`	`Dhraga`	`Ckknight, I just wanted to ask you where the flightmaster POI's have gone, they disappered about 2 days ago`
`18:30.10`	`ckknight`	`krka: shudder`
`18:30.29`	`Dhraga`	`ckknihgt, thanks I read your answer in the pc`
`18:30.45`	`ckknight`	`spell my name correctly`
`18:30.49`	`ckknight`	`tab-completion isn't hard`
`18:31.00`	`Oridan`	`lol`
`18:31.00`	`Dhraga`	`cough :)`
`18:31.13`	`ckknight`	`alright, gonna get some breakfast`
`18:31.18`	`Dhraga`	`ENjoy it ck`
`18:31.20`	`krka`	`ckniggit!`
`18:31.25`	`Gngsk_`	`~ACE`
`18:31.28`	`purl`	`it has been said that ace is a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. It is coded to keep CPU-usage, memory-usage, and GC churn in mind. See http://www.wowace.com/`
`18:31.40`	`Oridan`	`ckknight, its the cartographer_import doesnt work with new versions, so i've made it work`
`18:31.44`	`Gngsk_`	`boo, ACE should be like Awesome Cheese Extravaganza!`
`18:32.00`	Funkeh`	`its NOT ACE`
`18:32.03`	`durcyn`	`psssst, if you capitalize it they'll hurt you.`
`18:32.13`	`Oridan`	`new versions of gatherer *`
`18:32.44`	`Oridan`	`NOT = never off topic ?`
`18:32.47`	`Oridan`	`that cant be true`
`18:32.57`	Funkeh`	`NOT = capitalization = shouting`
`18:33.01`	`Oridan`	`:P`
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`18:34.29`	`Ironhand`	`can anyone point me to a downloadable database for Cartographer with gathering node notes?`
`18:35.37`	`Oridan`	`havent ever seen one`
`18:36.07`	`neenee`	`me neither`
`18:36.09`	`Ironhand`	`I'm hoping to get rid of Gatherer altogether but starting all over from scratch on nodes is a bit too much :-\`
`18:36.23`	`neenee`	`Ironhand: That's why Cartographer shares notes, to not have to start from scratch`
`18:36.24`	`Oridan`	`use import!`
`18:36.27`	`Oridan`	`i just fixed it`
`18:36.32`	`Oridan`	`well, kindof`
`18:36.38`	`yacoob`	`but if there's import, there are datas for gatherer`
`18:36.44`	`Ironhand`	`neenee: need someone to share with me though :-)`
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`18:36.53`	`Ironhand`	`and cool Oridan, so it can now import from gatherer 2.99?`
`18:37.00`	`neenee`	`Ironhand: your guild :)`
`18:37.09`	`Oridan`	`hope so :)`
`18:37.17`	`yacoob`	`btw, isn't sharing this kind of information against EULA?`
`18:37.20`	`yacoob`	`(just wondering)`
`18:37.21`	`Ironhand`	`neenee: everyone else uses Gatherer, and they're too lazy to change`
`18:37.36`	`Ironhand`	`but let me try the new import, it might be just what I need :-)`
`18:37.47`	`haste`	`yacoob: it's discussed only, not complete answer on it`
`18:38.12`	`yacoob`	`haste, I believe there was some "action" from blizz on GathererShare, but then again I could be wrong`
`18:38.52`	`pastamancer`	Funkeh`: it's never lupus
`18:39.16`	Funkeh`	`lupus?`
`18:39.26`	`pastamancer`	`oh, your comment reminded me of a line from House`
`18:39.42`	`neenee`	`Ironhand: Good luck :)`
`18:39.43`	Funkeh`	`oh, no i don't watch that :p`
`18:39.56`	`Ironhand`	`Oridan: the last update I see to Cartographer_Import is still the toc fix from last night... and I was told that didn't support gatherer 2.99`
`18:40.00`	`pastamancer`	`you should! Hugh Laurie, and off-the-charts mysanthropy.`
`18:40.17`	`Oridan`	`i havent posted it to svn yet`
`18:40.26`	`Oridan`	`i need to talk with ckknight about it, to make sure he wants it in`
`18:40.31`	`Ironhand`	`ok cool, I'm not in a hurry`
`18:40.39`	`Oridan`	`he's the original author y'see :)`
`18:40.43`	`Ironhand`	`makes sense :-)`
`18:41.34`	`ckknight`	`yea, throw it in`
`18:41.53`	`Oridan`	`well, i need to check a few things first`
`18:41.57`	`Oridan`	`some stuff isnt working correctly`
`18:42.10`	`Oridan`	`but once its done and fully tested i'll post it :)`
`18:42.15`	`ckknight`	`sounds good`
`18:42.28`	`Oridan`	`hehe`
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`18:45.13`	`grzesieq`	`the topic lies :<`
`18:45.23`	`haste`	`it is tho'!`
`18:45.33`	`grzesieq`	`nope`
`18:45.36`	`haste`	`There's a reason my only subject this year is math, and that I have 17 hours of it each week`
`18:45.48`	`grzesieq`	`masochism? :>`
`18:46.13`	`grzesieq`	`i have 4 hours of maths in a row and it gives me a headache for hte rest of the week`
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`18:47.11`	`haste`	`I'll have four hours next year also :)`
`18:47.54`	`haste`	`+ some outside school`
`18:50.57`	`deltron`	`lol blizzard sued glider`
`18:52.03`	`art3mis`	`hah`
`18:53.01`	`deltron`	`http://kotaku.com/gaming/blizzard/blizzard-sues-wow-glider-237889.php`
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`18:54.23`	`kenlyric\|home`	`that's not surprising.`
`18:55.04`	`deltron`	`yeah about time`
`18:55.12`	`kenlyric\|home`	`they have no real case.`
`18:55.35`	`kenlyric\|home`	`they'll probably try to push DMCA violation, but I don't really see how that'll work, since they don't inject code.`
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`18:56.12`	`deltron`	`it's most certainly a violation of the TOS`
`18:56.42`	`Gnarfoz`	`so? it's not like Glider has a contract with blizzard`
`18:56.48`	`kenlyric\|home`	`yeah. Which is why they can kick you out of the game for it. They can't sue you for it.`
`18:56.53`	`Gnarfoz`	`it'd be people using Gilder they'd have to sue`
`18:57.07`	`art3mis`	`it's the same deal as kazaa`
`18:57.24`	`kenlyric\|home`	`it's not even remotely the same deal as kazaa.`
`18:57.24`	`deltron`	`suing is a little extreme`
`18:57.27`	`Oridan`	`you can take someone down for incitement to comit a crime, so this is kinda similar`
`18:57.32`	`art3mis`	`the riaa and mpaa took down the parent when it became obvious that to stop the end user from doing it they had to take out the means`
`18:57.34`	`deltron`	`but I think the bots have ruined the economy :P`
`18:57.38`	`kenlyric\|home`	`they'd have no grounds to sue players botting.`
`18:57.44`	`art3mis`	`they do`
`18:57.48`	`art3mis`	`its in thier tos and eula`
`18:58.06`	`kenlyric\|home`	`no, it's in their ToS that they can kick you out of the game for doing it.`
`18:58.14`	`NeoTron`	`deltron: yeah. when they were botting/teleport farming dire maul major mana pots were much cheaper`
`18:58.19`	`art3mis`	`oh i read that wrong`
`18:58.25`	`NeoTron`	`man did they ruin the economy when they banned all those bots sniff`
`18:58.33`	`art3mis`	`but for the most part what they CAN do is sue the people that have accounts for farming`
`18:58.34`	`Oridan`	`if i incite someone to burgle my neighbour, i can get done for it. - so surely bliz can sue glider for "inciting people to break eula and blah blah"`
`18:58.47`	`art3mis`	`since selling items within the game is bad bad bad`
`18:58.48`	`Gnarfoz`	`it's not like Glider asks you to bot`
`18:58.48`	`NeoTron`	`to clarify I'm not for botting or cheating, but it did have some nice benefits`
`18:58.59`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Oridan, a EULA is not like a law.`
`18:59.01`	`art3mis`	`i miss our chinese farmers`
`18:59.07`	`kenlyric\|home`	`it's not a criminal offense to break it.`
`18:59.23`	`Oridan`	`thats the only one i could remember from the site`
`18:59.24`	`kenlyric\|home`	`man, I wish I had botted for money. I was always fucking broke.`
`18:59.30`	`art3mis`	`which is why its sueing and not pressing charges ;P`
`18:59.30`	`NeoTron`	`is it a criminal suit or civil suit?`
`18:59.42`	`Gnarfoz`	`civil, at the most`
`18:59.47`	`art3mis`	`civil is worse`
`18:59.49`	`kenlyric\|home`	`civil, I'm sure.`
`19:00.14`	`NeoTron`	`and it seems to be in their right to do that then`
`19:00.20`	`art3mis`	`yup`
`19:00.26`	`Gnarfoz`	`how could blizzard file a criminal suit about it, the sued person would have to break a law for that (at least that'd be logical)`
`19:00.26`	`NeoTron`	`it's not a criminal case, but they can sue for lost revenue or whatever other reasons`
`19:00.31`	`deltron`	`NeoTron: heh I remember that, I bought 20 stacks of mana pots for 3G each :)`
`19:00.47`	`kenlyric\|home`	`but the only claims they have to stand on in civil court are breaking of copyright and infrining on IP.`
`19:00.55`	`NeoTron`	`Gnarfoz: right. just mentioned it because of the "it's not illegal" type comments`
`19:00.57`	`art3mis`	`hehe i uised to wakke up in the moring to a mailbox full of cod runecloth for 75s a stack when i farmed for my kodo`
`19:01.15`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I suppose they could make a valid arguement on IP infrigement, since they use spell names in the program.`
`19:01.33`	`Gnarfoz`	`yea, different legal systems and stuff, those terms don't translate all too well for (in this case non-US citizens) "outsiders"`
`19:01.48`	`kenlyric\|home`	`NeoTron: I know... I was arguing two different points, so it looked like I was suggesting it was criminal :)`
`19:02.04`	`art3mis`	`technically they could also get them for manipulation or reverse enginerring of the client`
`19:02.11`	`art3mis`	`sicne it's not an auoti script`
`19:02.13`	`art3mis`	`autoit`
`19:02.31`	`art3mis`	`it means that its specifically tailrode to interact with the servers to make the client do things`
`19:02.36`	`art3mis`	`tailored`
`19:03.25`	`kenlyric\|home`	`glider doesn't do code injection though. It just sends keystrokes to your computer.`
`19:03.27`	`art3mis`	`but tobe fair glider bots are fun`
`19:03.47`	`art3mis`	`specially when you wand tag thier kils ;P`
`19:03.50`	`kenlyric\|home`	`that they are.`
`19:04.02`	`art3mis`	`farmed ad rep for 4 hours one day following a bot`
`19:04.07`	`kenlyric\|home`	`well, if you can do that it's a stupid bot, not glider :)`
`19:04.10`	`art3mis`	`then reported him`
`19:04.21`	`kenlyric\|home`	`you know you can get in trouble for that, right?`
`19:04.29`	`art3mis`	`yup`
`19:04.37`	`kenlyric\|home`	`blizz considers that using a 3rd party app :)`
`19:04.38`	`CIA-17`	`03akx * r28605 10FuBar_KTMFu/KTMFu.lua: FuBar_KTMFu: Fixed click-to-toggle to work with the r19 series.`
`19:04.44`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`19:04.49`	`art3mis`	`whichis why i logged my asking him if he was there and if he wanted o group ;P`
`19:05.28`	`art3mis`	`"i dunno los of foreign people play here i figured he'd asner me or get pissed at some point which is why i reported him ;P`
`19:05.37`	`kenlyric\|home`	`It's funny to see the people who get int a furious rage over it though.`
`19:05.42`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Like it somehow affects their life.`
`19:05.47`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`19:06.01`	`art3mis`	`i used to fish bot with my autoit script at night`
`19:06.10`	`kenlyric\|home`	`reported.`
`19:06.13`	`art3mis`	`got a 3 day when i accidently left it running during a AV game`
`19:06.25`	`kenlyric\|home`	`man, I miss the days of warnings :)`
`19:06.31`	`art3mis`	`was fishing in av to piss everyone off`
`19:06.43`	`grzesieq`	`well, fishing is one thing that should be allowed to be botted :P`
`19:06.45`	`art3mis`	`and i fergot to ldisable it when i went to bed ;)`
`19:06.57`	`art3mis`	`not now grz`
`19:07.24`	`art3mis`	`outland fishing is profitable`
`19:07.24`	`grzesieq`	`oh`
`19:07.24`	`art3mis`	`what with the random scrolls and crates`
`19:07.31`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I did it to relieve the boredom while levelling alts. The game becomes less fun the 3rd or 4th time through the same content :)`
`19:07.32`	`art3mis`	`thats why in azeroth they made all the crates only give out cloth`
`19:07.55`	`grzesieq`	`well i'd lvl fishing for motes of water`
`19:08.03`	`grzesieq`	`but it's insanely boring :<`
`19:08.12`	`kenlyric\|home`	`fishing really isn't a valid way to get motes of water, unless you fish the mote pools.`
`19:08.20`	`art3mis`	`hehe i wonder how you catch a mote of water on a hook`
`19:08.25`	`kenlyric\|home`	`which are horribly farmed.`
`19:08.26`	`nevcairiel`	`ive fishing 320 now, and with lure and a good pole, you can already fish them quite good`
`19:08.40`	`grzesieq`	`should've farmed more before the plateau nerf :(`
`19:08.52`	`art3mis`	`yeah`
`19:09.07`	`art3mis`	`there a nice fishing hole near settek`
`19:09.09`	`grzesieq`	`gonna be a pain to get my robe`
`19:09.14`	`art3mis`	`spawns pools`
`19:09.17`	`art3mis`	`and no mobs`
`19:09.25`	`art3mis`	`and you can only get to it by flying`
`19:10.04`	`kenlyric\|home`	`lol, one of the claims blizzard makes is that glider steals revenue from them from banned accounts.`
`19:10.05`	`deltron`	`heh you use autoit scripts? :P`
`19:10.19`	`deltron`	`in the long run that is true`
`19:10.43`	`nevcairiel`	`well`
`19:10.45`	`kenlyric\|home`	`glider doesn't make them ban players. They could just steal all their money.`
`19:10.47`	`kenlyric\|home`	`and it's not true.`
`19:10.51`	`nevcairiel`	`most of the accounts only exist because of glider`
`19:10.56`	`kenlyric\|home`	`All chinese goldfarmers who get banned just come back.`
`19:11.04`	`kenlyric\|home`	`and I'd say a good 80% of regular players who bot come back.`
`19:11.56`	`grzesieq`	`yawn compiling glibc is slow`
`19:12.13`	`kenlyric\|home`	`they have glibc on computers now.`
`19:12.37`	`grzesieq`	`?`
`19:12.59`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I was making a joke about you manually compiling glibc.`
`19:13.04`	`kenlyric\|home`	`it didn't work.`
`19:13.23`	`grzesieq`	`i'm falling asleep, that's why probably.`
`19:13.33`	`kenlyric\|home`	`"They have X on computers now" is my general way of commenting on how things should be more automatic.`
`19:13.49`	`grzesieq`	`not when you're making LFS`
`19:13.52`	`kenlyric\|home`	`it's generally "they have the internet on computer now"`
`19:13.54`	`pastamancer`	`grzesieq: don't forget -f-unroll-loops :p`
`19:14.17`	`pastamancer`	`LFS?`
`19:14.22`	`nevcairiel`	`itsn it -funroll-loops?`
`19:14.22`	`pastamancer`	`oh`
`19:14.32`	`pastamancer`	`and yeah, it is`
`19:14.36`	`grzesieq`	`haha`
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`19:15.56`	`pastamancer`	`I always separate the f and the unroll in my head because, wth are "fun roll loops" which is what I'd otherwise parse it as`
`19:16.05`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r28606 10Violation/libs/:`
`19:16.05`	`CIA-17`	`Violation:`
`19:16.05`	`CIA-17`	`- Fix the FuBarPlugin-2.0 external path.`
`19:16.05`	`deltron`	`lol`
`19:16.07`	`deltron`	`gentoo is rice`
`19:16.11`	`grzesieq`	`btw, yesterday i talked to the first ever GM that had a sense of humour`
`19:16.36`	`grzesieq`	`but he didnt nerf illhoof like i asked him to :<`
`19:16.44`	`Oridan`	`lol`
`19:16.44`	`deltron`	`grzesieq: there's a lot of them lately`
`19:16.52`	`grzesieq`	`i think they changed the staff`
`19:16.55`	`Oridan`	`i asked a gm to /spit ragnoras once, which he did`
`19:17.02`	`grzesieq`	`or some policies`
`19:17.41`	`deltron`	`a gulidie put in a GM ticket to ask if he could create a super druid by combining 3 druids into one superdruid`
`19:17.48`	`Oridan`	`lol`
`19:19.46`	`nevcairiel`	`i would be happy enough with 120 talent points :P`
`19:19.52`	`nevcairiel`	`dont need 3 druids`
`19:20.54`	`deltron`	`http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9160/pic19wd.png <-- heh`
`19:21.50`	`nevcairiel`	`lol nice GM answer`
`19:22.07`	`kenlyric\|home`	`jesus, that's fucking tiny. Am I suppose to be able to read that?`
`19:22.36`	`kenlyric\|home`	`does wow even run at 640x480 resolution?`
`19:22.56`	`nevcairiel`	`it doesnt. i think 800x600 is minimum`
`19:23.18`	`nevcairiel`	`but you can shrink images afterwards, you know ? :D`
`19:23.39`	`art3mis`	`ui scale .64`
`19:23.46`	`art3mis`	`addon scaling even smaller`
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`19:24.38`	`Brb\|Bloc`	`Hey guys`
`19:25.08`	`deltron`	`yeah i can't play without having UI scale all the way down`
`19:25.23`	`deltron`	`and I'm at 1280x800 :P`
`19:25.33`	`Magentia`	`Heh, same Deltron`
`19:25.42`	`Magentia`	`The large portraits makes me go mad`
`19:26.15`	`art3mis`	`heh yeah, .64 ui 80% addon and 1680x1040`
`19:26.37`	`grzesieq`	`hmpf`
`19:26.40`	`grzesieq`	`cant find the pic now`
`19:26.48`	`deltron`	`http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8328/modsxq9.jpg <-- pretty much what I currently have`
`19:27.02`	`grzesieq`	`but some guildie mage a gm petition "please make joto l2p"`
`19:27.03`	`deltron`	`minus the xp bars now heh`
`19:27.07`	`grzesieq`	`but they didnt like it`
`19:27.16`	`art3mis`	`hehe www.casualgamers.com`
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`19:27.31`	`art3mis`	`err`
`19:27.34`	`art3mis`	`hehe www.casualgamer.com`
`19:27.38`	`grzesieq`	`since we're showing off http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3962/screenshot021207200450zn8.jpg ;p`
`19:27.52`	`deltron`	`I tried http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9510/diodemazzleuiup0.jpg for a little bit`
`19:27.53`	`art3mis`	`wow i need to l2type`
`19:27.56`	`deltron`	`so painful though heh`
`19:27.57`	`art3mis`	`hehe www.casualgamer.org`
`19:27.59`	`art3mis`	`there`
`19:28.09`	`Magentia`	`Wow delt`
`19:28.13`	`Magentia`	`That's really nice.`
`19:28.23`	`Magentia`	`Uploaded it somewhere?`
`19:28.27`	`deltron`	`Magentia: it's a mod package, does most of it for you automagically`
`19:28.38`	`deltron`	`Magentia: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6311-MazzleUI.html`
`19:28.47`	`deltron`	`just update the ace mods included`
`19:29.02`	`deltron`	`the key bindings are completely wack though`
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`19:29.13`	`Magentia`	`Heh, thanks a lot.`
`19:29.16`	`deltron`	`np`
`19:29.19`	`Magentia`	`How large is it?`
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`19:29.25`	`art3mis`	`http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg`
`19:29.38`	`Magentia`	`It's Mazzles?`
`19:29.39`	`deltron`	`it's very large`
`19:29.44`	`deltron`	`12mb zip`
`19:29.47`	`art3mis`	`everything is my normal interface just with stolen mazzle panels and and unitframes`
`19:30.02`	`Magentia`	`Stylish Ui`
`19:30.06`	`Magentia`	`What bag mod is that?`
`19:30.09`	`art3mis`	`ark`
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`19:30.14`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`19:30.23`	`MoonWolf`	`arkinventory fullout`
`19:30.25`	`deltron`	`ark rules`
`19:30.32`	`art3mis`	`ive since changed back to aguf just for party frames and got rid of mazzles pparty unitframes`
`19:30.34`	`Magentia`	`Yeah, It looks sweet there`
`19:30.34`	`deltron`	`i forget what i'm using now`
`19:30.35`	`MoonWolf`	`makes is slightly easier to find things if you know the full name art3mis`
`19:30.46`	`art3mis`	`aguf+benecast == priest easy mode`
`19:31.16`	`art3mis`	`oh sorry i figured that we're in the wowace that someone would just need to go loomk under A for ark and they'd udnerstand ;P`
`19:31.38`	`OverloadUT`	`Is ark as configurable as Baggins?`
`19:31.41`	`art3mis`	`yup`
`19:31.45`	`art3mis`	`baggins is annoying`
`19:31.49`	`art3mis`	`ark is clean and happy`
`19:31.59`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`19:32.06`	`TheKarn`	`ark looks like an engbags ripoff :P`
`19:32.11`	`OverloadUT`	`Well I am extremely happy with Baggins, but I'm always looking for improvements ;)`
`19:32.12`	`deltron`	`heh`
`19:32.17`	`deltron`	`much better than enginventory`
`19:32.29`	`deltron`	`eng was a hog`
`19:32.29`	`art3mis`	`if only anti would calm down at work and finish sanity bags ;P`
`19:32.34`	`Magentia`	`What ''Autobar'' is Mazzle using?`
`19:32.40`	`art3mis`	`regular autobar`
`19:32.43`	`deltron`	`Magentia: autobar`
`19:32.48`	`art3mis`	`just skined with cyCircle`
`19:32.55`	`Magentia`	`Oh, sweet.`
`19:32.58`	`art3mis`	`lets you change the border of stuff`
`19:33.01`	`TheKarn`	`i use sanity alot but baggins for main bags`
`19:33.15`	`art3mis`	`TheKarn: anti was working on santity bags ;P`
`19:33.16`	`Magentia`	`Does Bongos work with Cycircle?`
`19:33.21`	`art3mis`	`yup`
`19:33.27`	`art3mis`	`mazzle uses bongos i believe`
`19:33.33`	`art3mis`	`i like abrtender better though`
`19:33.36`	`art3mis`	`bartender`
`19:33.51`	`OverloadUT`	`I like the simplicty of Bongos`
`19:34.17`	`Magentia`	`Oh, i like bartender`
`19:34.39`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I'd be happy if antiarc would just finish sanity.`
`19:34.48`	`Magentia`	`What unitframes do you guys suggest?`
`19:34.53`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I'm starting to get bugged by the fact that it isn't updating.`
`19:35.04`	`deltron`	`mazzle uses bongos, i don't care for it heh`
`19:35.07`	`OverloadUT`	`Any screenshots of Sanity?`
`19:35.08`	`Magentia`	`I really miss the Discord mods.`
`19:35.43`	`kenlyric\|home`	`If I could get into the game, i'd take one for you.`
`19:36.03`	`kenlyric\|home`	`just imagine a window with a sortable list of your items.`
`19:36.39`	`OverloadUT`	`Hmm I like the description. It seems like it could play nice beside a different bag mod and doesn't need to replace it per se`
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`19:37.03`	`kenlyric\|home`	`right, it's a companion to a bag mod.`
`19:37.14`	`kenlyric\|home`	`http://uifiles.worldofwar.net/upload/pics/sanity3_20061223.jpg`
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`19:37.22`	`art3mis`	`god i love casual`
`19:37.33`	`Magentia`	`Oh, that looks sweet.`
`19:37.56`	`Silviu-`	`art3mis so u only use Mazzle for unitframes and those bars down right ?`
`19:37.56`	`Magentia`	`Hey, should i go with Bartender 2 or 3?`
`19:37.58`	`OverloadUT`	`Okay, time to install ;)`
`19:37.59`	`kenlyric\|home`	`searchable is its most aesome feature. I can instantly see how many cloths I have, for instance, across all alts.`
`19:38.11`	`Silviu-`	`Magentia 3`
`19:38.13`	`kenlyric\|home`	`however, it has issues it seems with updating.`
`19:38.14`	`art3mis`	`thers a pciture of thier guild standing in front of a skeletal usher and in big red letters "somewhere in this picture is the secret to dealing with skeletal ushers" and it's a buibbled priest ;P`
`19:38.15`	`Magentia`	`Okie`
`19:38.37`	`kenlyric\|home`	`in particular, it will NOT update your bank unless it's open at your bank.`
`19:38.52`	`kenlyric\|home`	`but you can configure it to open automatically when you visit the bank.`
`19:38.55`	`OverloadUT`	`Ahh that's annoying`
`19:39.08`	`OverloadUT`	`I'll give it a whirl`
`19:40.16`	`OverloadUT\|Home`	`lmao I already have Sanity installed :P`
`19:40.37`	`OverloadUT\|Home`	`I asked someone yesterday what a good mod was for seeing what stuff my alts have, so they must have told me to get Sanity :P`
`19:41.34`	`kenlyric\|home`	`it's particularly nice when I'm playing alts.. I get a green boe drop, I look to see what my alt has and if it's an UG.`
`19:41.44`	`NeoTron`	`is Sanity a bag replacement mod?`
`19:41.55`	`kenlyric\|home`	`no.`
`19:42.00`	`kenlyric\|home`	`it's an inventory management mod.`
`19:42.05`	`NeoTron`	`so just a ... right`
`19:42.24`	`kenlyric\|home`	`it'd be pretty nasty to try to work with it alone as a bag :)`
`19:42.45`	`NeoTron`	`still seems quite useful`
`19:42.59`	`kenlyric\|home`	`incredibly.`
`19:43.13`	`pastamancer`	`it's a "where the hell did I put that" mod`
`19:43.13`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Way more useful than one OneView and all those other inventory mods.`
`19:43.16`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Searchable > *`
`19:43.33`	`grzesieq`	`gotta check it out :o`
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`19:50.57`	`zoktar`	`offtopic anyone know a windows prog for viewing network connections n stuff ?`
`19:51.09`	`zoktar`	`think i might be spamming or being spammed`
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`19:51.32`	`yacoob`	`zoktar, you should have netstat`
`19:51.44`	`yacoob`	`or sniff with ethereal, or whatisit its name now`
`19:52.19`	`zoktar`	`thnx`
`19:52.26`	`trh`	`ckknight: is there a api in cartographer to add a mapnote/point for a few minutes and let cartographer automatically remove it after that expiration time?`
`19:52.39`	`ckknight`	`no`
`19:52.47`	`trh`	`something like that planned? :)`
`19:52.48`	`yacoob`	`zoktar, or just get some firewall, deny all traffic and then see what's popping up while idle`
`19:53.23`	`zoktar`	`ye might install the router again`
`19:53.25`	`Cyrez`	`http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Networking/TcpView.mspx < Views network connections with GUI ^^`
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`19:53.51`	`trh`	`ckknight: i thought about adding a feature to vanaskos with distributed kos-target gathering, so if anyone in a specific zone see's a kos-target from someone other a mappoint is created which expires a few minutes later :)`
`19:54.06`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r28607 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:`
`19:54.06`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`19:54.06`	`CIA-17`	`- Fix scanning bug.`
`19:54.06`	`ckknight`	`no idea what kos is`
`19:54.13`	`trh`	`ckknight: kill-on-sight`
`19:54.37`	`trh`	`ckknight: a person that really bugged you while playing/questin can be added to a list`
`19:54.39`	`pastamancer`	`trh: use AceEvent to create timers for removing your notes`
`19:55.03`	`trh`	`ckknight: then my addon informs you if the added person is near you and tells you why (if given) you added him`
`19:55.16`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I've often though there needs to be a more complex friend/ignore list.`
`19:55.17`	`trh`	`pastamancer: does aceevent saves events on logout?`
`19:55.40`	`pastamancer`	`trh: no, but you can keep track of created notes and expiration times`
`19:55.51`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Like, I want list of people who I go to in order to fill groups, but don't want to see every time they log in.. and People I dislike that i don't want ot actively ignore.`
`19:56.07`	`trh`	`kenlyric\|home: i may add a goodlist too in future :)`
`19:56.43`	`pastamancer`	`kenlyric\|home: I think I used an addon called 'PlayerNotes' to keep track of that once upon a time`
`19:56.46`	`trh`	`kenlyric\|home: and a hatelist for same faction`
`19:57.03`	`kenlyric\|home`	`pastamancer: yeah... something like that.`
`19:57.14`	`kenlyric\|home`	`though, tying it to the map makes no sense to me.`
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`19:57.47`	`pastamancer`	`kenlyric\|home: not map related at all, it showed up in tooltips`
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`20:00.38`	`kenlyric\|home`	`yeah, I don't like that idea either. I want the list to not be bound to anything specific. A fubar plugin maybe. Maybe I could adapt playernotes.`
`20:00.47`	`grzesieq`	`wow + parallels with 1 gig ram is a big no-no :(`
`20:00.48`	`OverloadUT`	`Does Sanity use PeriodicTable?`
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`20:03.39`	`art3mis`	`silvu: delayed, no i only used mazzle forthe unitframes and the panel those bars at the bottom reside on`
`20:04.05`	`JoshBorke`	`i use mazzle for the mazzlegasms myself`
`20:04.18`	`art3mis`	`err silviu`
`20:04.34`	`art3mis`	`and now its only for my frame and he target frame`
`20:04.44`	`art3mis`	`for parties i use aguf party frames+benecast`
`20:04.51`	`art3mis`	`cuz im a lazy healer`
`20:05.19`	`art3mis`	`but there are a few overlapping addons that mazzle and my ui share`
`20:05.29`	`art3mis`	`but thats because mazzle switched to mostly ace`
`20:05.38`	`art3mis`	`and mine was already 98% ace ;P`
`20:08.07`	`OverloadUT`	`My favorite part about Ace is consistent paradigms`
`20:08.13`	`OverloadUT`	`Like profiles`
`20:09.18`	`NeoTron`	`so is MazzleUI any good`
`20:09.26`	`NeoTron`	`was loooking at it before it was released`
`20:09.31`	`deltron`	`NeoTron: if you have a good system`
`20:09.37`	`NeoTron`	`that I do`
`20:09.42`	`deltron`	`it makes my system run fairly slow`
`20:09.51`	`deltron`	`and i got an amd64 4000+, 1.5GB of ram`
`20:09.59`	`deltron`	`ati x600 heh`
`20:11.20`	`NeoTron`	`hmm`
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`20:11.26`	`NeoTron`	`I guess I could try`
`20:11.53`	`deltron`	`i was at around 8fps`
`20:12.04`	`Silviu-`	art3mis ok thx for the info, maybe i`ll try it too at least the Uniframes they look nice :)
`20:12.07`	`NeoTron`	`uhm. that's a bit slow`
`20:12.44`	`deltron`	`give it a try`
`20:12.50`	`deltron`	`just back up your stuff`
`20:12.57`	`deltron`	`I had every mod enabled though`
`20:12.59`	`deltron`	`or most enabled`
`20:13.08`	`deltron`	`though I use most of those mods in my own custom UI`
`20:13.14`	`art3mis`	`mazzle is a ncie clean well thought out all in one addon`
`20:13.42`	`deltron`	`yeah, don't get me wrong, the config mod he wrote is awesome`
`20:13.44`	`art3mis`	`however during the course of your playing you've more than likely found other versions of some addons that you'd rather use ;P`
`20:13.47`	`art3mis`	`yeah`
`20:13.51`	`art3mis`	`i LOVE that config mod`
`20:13.53`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r28608 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: BigWigs: LoD: Bugfix, thanks Jerry.`
`20:14.03`	`NeoTron`	`well I will try it out`
`20:14.09`	`NeoTron`	`would love a nice clean setup to be honest`
`20:14.18`	`deltron`	`I don't care for their default keyconfig though`
`20:14.22`	`art3mis`	`but its easy enough to just remove the crap you dont want to use the crap you do`
`20:14.24`	`deltron`	`it's pretty strange`
`20:14.32`	`art3mis`	`yeah i had to fix most of my bindings`
`20:14.45`	`art3mis`	`the other thing that bugs me is the hud`
`20:14.58`	`art3mis`	`i had to actually edit his files to make the hud go away completely`
`20:14.59`	`deltron`	`the hud is pretty`
`20:15.09`	`art3mis`	`i didnt like it`
`20:15.11`	`neenee`	`I don't like mazzle`
`20:15.15`	`art3mis`	`i like metahud a bit better`
`20:15.23`	`deltron`	`i don't care for HUD's`
`20:15.29`	`deltron`	`I have bars with portraits`
`20:15.37`	`deltron`	`why do I need redundant info?`
`20:15.44`	`neenee`	`the screenshots on the download page need updating too`
`20:15.52`	`art3mis`	`i use the hug for when i dont wanna pay attention ;P`
`20:15.55`	`Silviu-`	`art3mis hmm one thing i hate it that he rearange my buttons :/`
`20:15.59`	`art3mis`	`yeah`
`20:16.03`	`Silviu-`	`And after i reinstall must move them back`
`20:16.05`	`art3mis`	`thats a tad annoying too`
`20:16.28`	`deltron`	`yeah`
`20:16.35`	`art3mis`	`i was gona put out my collection with his art but i asked nicely and he said he'd rather i didnt so im not gonna ;P`
`20:16.40`	`art3mis`	`however... ;)`
`20:16.55`	`art3mis`	`all ya need to do to get the art from it is tak all the duf stuff and all the mazzle stuff`
`20:17.08`	`deltron`	`i use most of the mods he has in that collection anyways`
`20:17.09`	`art3mis`	`the directories i mean AFTER you've configed it`
`20:17.33`	`art3mis`	`and jus edit the toc to not use what you dont wan`
`20:17.34`	`art3mis`	`t`
`20:17.42`	`neenee`	`MazzleUI changes default key bindings which I think should not be touched by an addon`
`20:17.47`	`art3mis`	`and in the mazzle saved variables file edit the trues to false ;P`
`20:18.08`	`art3mis`	`i love my ui now`
`20:18.16`	`neenee`	`:) I like mine too.`
`20:18.18`	`art3mis`	`course i had all of beta to rebuilt it from scratch`
`20:18.31`	`neenee`	`Everyone loves theirs.`
`20:18.35`	`art3mis`	`yup\`
`20:18.41`	`art3mis`	`hehe i lvoe my gamer keypad too`
`20:18.50`	`NeoTron`	`wait it moves buttons around?`
`20:18.50`	`art3mis`	`it can create timed macros ;P`
`20:18.55`	`NeoTron`	`and changes key bindings?`
`20:18.55`	`art3mis`	`yeah`
`20:19.10`	`art3mis`	`it "auto configs" them based on class`
`20:19.15`	`OverloadUT`	`Why would an addon ever change bindings?`
`20:19.19`	`NeoTron`	`that's dumb`
`20:19.21`	`art3mis`	`for what he thinks it should be`
`20:19.32`	`deltron`	`yeah the key configs are really retarded`
`20:19.36`	`NeoTron`	`that there is probably one reason I won't try it then`
`20:19.37`	`deltron`	`I got rid of half the bars by using yata`
`20:19.41`	`OverloadUT`	`Well I guess since its whole philosophy is an "all in one solution" it makes sense...`
`20:19.44`	`art3mis`	`most of the binding changes are for certain popups and addons that he uses`
`20:19.46`	`Magentia`	`Hmm, i got some troubles with my Fubar`
`20:19.53`	`Magentia`	`When i log in, Its not showing a bar`
`20:19.57`	`art3mis`	`all the original bindings remain only you need to use alt- before them`
`20:20.05`	`neenee`	`To quote Mazzlefiz 'But ironically, I've never used a compilation before, so what I'm saying is all hearsay.'.. So he's not using his own work?`
`20:20.22`	`OverloadUT`	`Well to him its not a compilation :P`
`20:20.27`	`OverloadUT`	`It's his custom UI :P`
`20:20.29`	`art3mis`	`its just his ui ;P`
`20:21.04`	`art3mis`	`oh my god`
`20:21.05`	`OverloadUT`	`The day I switched from Cosmos to my own custom UI was a happy day.`
`20:21.08`	`OverloadUT`	`...3 years ago`
`20:21.09`	`ckknight`	`it's a compilation`
`20:21.12`	`art3mis`	`someone is outside my house blasting king diamond`
`20:21.15`	`ckknight`	`he uses FuBar`
`20:21.21`	`ckknight`	`which I (mostly) wrote`
`20:21.30`	`ckknight`	`can't say it's his own`
`20:21.39`	`OverloadUT`	`ckknight: Right, I'm not saying he wrote all the addons`
`20:21.55`	`Gnarfoz`	`no one says that when talking about compilations, I'd figure`
`20:21.56`	`OverloadUT`	`I don't consider my own UI a compilation`
`20:22.00`	`OverloadUT`	`It's just the list of addons I downloaded`
`20:22.12`	`deltron`	`my own UI is a mess`
`20:22.13`	`deltron`	`hehe`
`20:22.17`	`ckknight`	`mine is pretty nice`
`20:22.30`	`deltron`	`ckknight: screen :D`
`20:22.35`	`deltron`	`I think i'm one of the few that has their fubar on the bottom`
`20:22.35`	`ckknight`	`hang on`
`20:22.37`	`OverloadUT`	`I'm happier and happier with mine each day`
`20:22.37`	`OverloadUT`	`As I add stuff and take bloat away ;)`
`20:22.59`	`ckknight`	`ah, I'll just describe, a screen takes too long`
`20:23.06`	`ckknight`	`Bartender3 at the bottom-center`
`20:23.10`	`ckknight`	`chatframe at the bottom-left`
`20:23.14`	`ckknight`	`questFu tracker bottom-right`
`20:23.23`	`ckknight`	`agUF for player/target right above bartender`
`20:23.28`	`ckknight`	`party on the left of the screen`
`20:23.43`	`ckknight`	`minimap top-right using simpleMinimap's corner skin`
`20:23.48`	`art3mis`	`http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg so kind of like that ;)`
`20:23.52`	`haste`	`that doesn't take longer at all`
`20:23.53`	`ckknight`	`FuBar at the top`
`20:24.02`	`ckknight`	`haste: not logged in`
`20:24.14`	`OverloadUT`	`ckknight: Sounds just like mine, but I also have a SimpleCombatLog on the bottom right :P`
`20:24.26`	`art3mis`	`the aprt of above autobar is now where my aguf party frames reside`
`20:24.29`	`deltron`	`i like mine, works good for my playstyle`
`20:24.30`	`OverloadUT`	`...and PerlClassic instead of aguf`
`20:24.33`	`neenee`	`http://legionoflore.com/shots/shot.jpg`
`20:24.38`	`deltron`	`aguf > *`
`20:24.44`	`haste`	`7 sec to start WoW, 15 sec to log in (at least here), 4 sec to print screen and convert it to PNG, 10 sek to upload`
`20:25.00`	`haste`	`I can probably do it faster if I really go for it`
`20:25.12`	`haste`	`s/sek/sec/`
`20:25.16`	`deltron`	`haste: you got a monster machine, or no mods hehe`
`20:25.19`	`art3mis`	`aguf == laggy for some reason`
`20:25.31`	`art3mis`	`without it running i dont get pause lag`
`20:25.31`	`*** join/#wowace gerber^Cavisty[A (n=Jon@c-71-200-85-204.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`20:25.32`	`haste`	`deltron: 30 mods, and a 3500+`
`20:25.34`	`art3mis`	`with it running i do`
`20:25.45`	`deltron`	`haste: I'm like 100+ mods`
`20:25.55`	`art3mis`	`hehe im at about 54 or so`
`20:25.58`	`haste`	`deltron: only two ace tho', and they are disembeeded also, so it doesn't take forever to wait for the compiling`
`20:26.02`	`haste`	`actually, three`
`20:26.02`	`neenee`	`84 here`
`20:26.14`	`haste`	`BigWigs, oRA2 and SimpleCombatLog`
`20:27.07`	`NeoTron`	`art3mis: I just love how clean mazzle is`
`20:27.23`	`art3mis`	`yup thats why i went with that style`
`20:27.34`	`neenee`	`I don't think mazzle is clean at all :\|`
`20:27.45`	`haste`	`I agree with neenee :)`
`20:27.54`	`neenee`	`But perhaps I've only seen old screenshots.`
`20:27.56`	`deltron`	`mazzle is a pain`
`20:28.11`	`neenee`	`Is there a recent shot of MazzleUI?`
`20:28.17`	`haste`	`no actionbar, no minimap + oPanels = clean :3`
`20:28.23`	`deltron`	`http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9510/diodemazzleuiup0.jpg <-- when I had mazzle`
`20:28.37`	`deltron`	`that's from less than a week ago`
`20:28.42`	`NeoTron`	`clean = organized`
`20:28.44`	`NeoTron`	`not empty`
`20:28.52`	`haste`	`depends`
`20:28.58`	ag`_	`neenee: Screenshot here! [bling bling bling 65mb bling bling]`
`20:29.17`	`neenee`	`deltron: I hope that's scaled?`
`20:29.38`	`deltron`	`neenee: 1280x800?`
`20:29.46`	`neenee`	`So it's at 100%?`
`20:29.49`	`deltron`	`yes`
`20:29.54`	`deltron`	`widescreen`
`20:30.01`	`Silviu-`	`imageshack sux`
`20:30.01`	`Silviu-`	`:/`
`20:30.04`	`deltron`	`http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8328/modsxq9.jpg <-- my site`
`20:30.11`	`neenee`	`Then some fonts are far too small to be easily readable and the textures of the borders are too busy.`
`20:30.14`	`deltron`	`Silviu-: yes, i'm lazy though`
`20:30.23`	`Silviu-`	`No, i mean i want upload mine`
`20:30.29`	`Silviu-`	`and it dies`
`20:30.30`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
`20:30.32`	`deltron`	`heh`
`20:30.46`	`neenee`	`Hm. Okay, so far I think that MazzleUI just makes everything small and puts a background behind buttons to make it seem organized.`
`20:31.01`	`deltron`	`neenee: mazzle has several options for font size, though it sets ui scale to the lowest it goes`
`20:31.05`	`neenee`	`hm`
`20:31.17`	`deltron`	`yeah I didn't care for it`
`20:31.21`	`neenee`	`I can barely read the text on the fubar in that shot`
`20:31.26`	`neenee`	`or in the combat log`
`20:31.33`	`deltron`	`yeah i didn't like that`
`20:31.38`	`Silviu-`	`The connection was reset`
`20:31.53`	`deltron`	`I usually have a large wide chat and combat log`
`20:32.11`	`Gnarfoz`	`http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/WoWScrnShot_020307_080516.jpg <- almost current, I think :>`
`20:32.14`	`deltron`	`I did like whatever mod he had on the right hand side that made your gear like autobar`
`20:32.31`	`neenee`	`Much more readable :)`
`20:32.41`	`Gnarfoz`	`(but fugly screenshot because I don't have Transparency AA)`
`20:32.58`	`neenee`	`I don't have transparency AA on either?`
`20:33.02`	`neenee`	`What does it mess up?`
`20:33.05`	`OverloadUT`	`Someone linked a video the other day here that was showing off a SCT replacement that looked really cool and configurable. Does anyone know what it was called?`
`20:33.17`	`neenee`	`OverloadUT: Mik's Scrolling Battle Text?`
`20:33.22`	`Gnarfoz`	`neenee: it takes care of texture's edges... like all the grass blades in my screen shot`
`20:33.29`	`neenee`	`ah`
`20:33.33`	`OverloadUT`	`neenee: That was the one. Is that Ace?`
`20:33.37`	`neenee`	`OverloadUT: no`
`20:33.38`	`deltron`	`Gnarfoz: lol fighting a shaman eh?`
`20:33.41`	`neenee`	`OverloadUT: But that does not mean it is no good.`
`20:33.58`	`OverloadUT`	`Of course. I'm not one of those people ;)`
`20:34.23`	`Gnarfoz`	`deltron: would've likely been a shaman mob, but yes`
`20:34.30`	`deltron`	`ah`
`20:34.38`	`deltron`	`forgot they had those`
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`20:35.13`	`Gnarfoz`	`(seeing that I have both 0 honor and am still alive... Had I killed a player shaman I'd have honor, otherwise he'd have killed me ^^)`
`20:35.39`	`deltron`	`heh :)`
`20:35.46`	`neenee`	`Gnarfoz: Oh yea, grass is much softer now`
`20:35.55`	`Gnarfoz`	`neenee: 8)`
`20:36.01`	`deltron`	`all gnome rogues are KOS to me, and I'm on a PvE server :P`
`20:36.24`	`Gnarfoz`	`I can't afford Transparency AA, I'm already stressing it with 1600x1200 and 4xAA/Max AF`
`20:37.05`	`neenee`	`I use 2x`
`20:37.12`	`Gnarfoz`	`looks beautiful when there's not that much half-transparent texture stuff around (like those grass blades), though`
`20:37.46`	`deltron`	`I don't use it at all`
`20:38.36`	`Silviu-`	`http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/cb0ef06bb8.jpg`
`20:38.39`	`Gnarfoz`	`if I ever upgrade my system anytime in the near future, I'm sure to choose a graphics card with as much RAM as I can get :> <3 AA`
`20:38.53`	`OverloadUT`	`Does anyone maintain two locations for playing WoW and have a good way to keep Interface and WTF synched?`
`20:39.19`	`Gnarfoz`	`OverloadUT: I do and I don't :<`
`20:39.27`	`neenee`	`I just take my whole WTF + Interface dirs with me on my usb stick when I visit my girlfriend in the UK`
`20:39.29`	`Gnarfoz`	`work/home`
`20:39.36`	`NeoTron`	`OverloadUT: in general, unison would work`
`20:39.41`	ag`_	`use linux, keep UI on flash disk and symlink to wow dir`
`20:39.45`	ag`_	`good game`
`20:39.50`	`NeoTron`	`it's a two-way directory sync tool`
`20:39.55`	`neenee`	`Yes, but linux never ran WoW well for me.`
`20:39.57`	`Gnarfoz`	`yeah, but... different machine specs make that hard as hell`
`20:39.58`	`Gnarfoz`	`:\`
`20:40.01`	`OverloadUT`	`I'm using Microsoft's SyncToy which works very well but it's very very slow`
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`20:40.05`	ag`_	`okay, then use a Mac`
`20:40.18`	`neenee`	`No macs here either.`
`20:40.22`	`Gnarfoz`	`changing machines is likely not an option ;>`
`20:40.24`	`Magentia`	`Guys, Iv'e got a problem :x`
`20:40.25`	ag`_	`runs wow flawless and supports symlinks`
`20:40.26`	`neenee`	`Silviu-: It's not loading for some reason`
`20:40.31`	`deltron`	`i ran wow on my linux box decently`
`20:40.44`	`OverloadUT`	`NeoTron: Thanks, I'll give that a shot. Every sync program I have tried has not been good at deleting and renaming files in both directions except for SyncToy`
`20:40.55`	`Silviu-`	`neenee i hate this free hosting things ^^`
`20:40.57`	`NeoTron`	`I ran WoW natively on my Linux box. Then closed beta happened and it was discontinued :)(`
`20:41.01`	`NeoTron`	`:(`
`20:41.01`	`neenee`	`Silviu-: use imageshack.us :)`
`20:41.14`	`Gnarfoz`	`imageshack is the worst of 'em :\`
`20:41.16`	`Silviu-`	`I try but keeps reseting`
`20:41.21`	`Magentia`	`First off, Autobar isent working, something about anchor error. And the Cycircled wont skin my Bartender 3... :S`
`20:41.32`	`deltron`	`Silviu-: you converting your screenshot from .tga to .jpg?`
`20:41.34`	`*** join/#wowace Heron__ (n=chatzill@bl4-35-182.dsl.telepac.pt)`
`20:41.43`	`OverloadUT`	`I should have mentioned in my original request that the two machines are in different locations. If this were a local network I'd have no problem. :P`
`20:41.47`	`NeoTron`	`http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/`
`20:41.53`	`neenee`	`Silviu-: Ah, it loaded now`
`20:42.22`	`Silviu-`	`deltron yes ;)`
`20:42.28`	`neenee`	`Silviu-: Horrible compression, but at least your interface isn't too messy :)`
`20:42.37`	`hyperChipmunk`	`what's wrong with the usb-symlink idea?`
`20:42.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`sounds exactly what you want`
`20:43.01`	`Silviu-`	`neenee i like it atm`
`20:43.02`	`Silviu-`	`;)`
`20:43.15`	`deltron`	`NTFS supports symlinks too ;) called junction points`
`20:43.16`	`Gnarfoz`	`hyperChipmunk: it requires linux`
`20:43.23`	`Silviu-`	`neenee that page compressed it like so`
`20:43.25`	`hyperChipmunk`	`why?`
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`20:43.33`	`Gnarfoz`	`NTFS supports only hard links`
`20:43.37`	`NeoTron`	`the number one tool for WoW I'd like is something that automatically organizes my minimap buttons in a nice placce`
`20:43.43`	`Magentia`	`Guys? Anyone know what's the problem with the Autobar addon, It tells me it some anchor problem. Do I need an addon to fix it? And cycircled isent changing the skin of my Bartender 3. Anyone have any idea what the problem is?`
`20:43.46`	`OverloadUT`	`hyperChipmunk: Simple reason - I'm way too forgetful to bring as physical device back and forth. That's why I use remote desktop :P`
`20:43.48`	`hyperChipmunk`	`...`
`20:43.50`	`OverloadUT`	`And Hamachi`
`20:43.51`	`NeoTron`	`Gnarfoz: actually that is incorrect`
`20:43.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that's retarded`
`20:43.57`	`Gnarfoz`	`NeoTron: how so?`
`20:43.57`	`neenee`	`Silviu-: oki`
`20:44.02`	`neenee`	`Silviu-: :)`
`20:44.19`	`NeoTron`	`< deltron> NTFS supports symlinks too ;) called junction points`
`20:44.30`	`neenee`	`hehe. true.`
`20:44.40`	`neenee`	`Quite messy to me though`
`20:44.41`	`NeoTron`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_junction_point`
`20:44.43`	`Gnarfoz`	`NeoTron: how'd you use them?`
`20:44.47`	`hyperChipmunk`	`what kind of retard writes a desktop filesystem that doesn't support symlinks?`
`20:45.07`	`deltron`	`junction points are a lot better in vista (supposedly, haven't tried it out yet)`
`20:45.09`	`OverloadUT`	`Doesn't Vista support Symlinks now?`
`20:45.14`	`NeoTron`	`note that they are quite dangerous to use`
`20:45.46`	`NeoTron`	`Vista: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_symbolic_link`
`20:45.52`	`Gnarfoz`	`hyperChipmunk: that question is kind of... you have to have grown up using some variant of a unix :\`
`20:46.23`	`Gnarfoz`	`(to ask it)`
`20:46.58`	`hyperChipmunk`	`didn't MS tout NT as being posix compliant?`
`20:47.08`	`deltron`	`hyperChipmunk: heh since nt 3.51 I think`
`20:47.40`	`Gnarfoz`	`would that make NT non-compliant when it runs on FAT?`
`20:48.07`	`durcyn`	`junctions have been around since 4.0`
`20:48.12`	`Tovort_`	`http://www.circulus-vitiosus.org/tovort/WoWScrnShot_013007_162348.jpg <- that would be the my present state, and the first horde paladin that got 60 on my server, doing his epic mount quest`
`20:48.53`	`deltron`	`running FAT is stupid when running any NT variant`
`20:49.01`	`Gnarfoz`	`sure it is, but it's supported`
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`20:49.32`	`deltron`	`anyone use any of the dkp mods?`
`20:49.32`	`neenee`	`Tovort_: Nice and clean too :)`
`20:51.05`	`hyperChipmunk`	`"Junction points can only link to folders and volumes. You can create a similar link to a file, but with the restriction that the file must belong to the same logical volume, using hard links."`
`20:51.10`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that's not symlinking`
`20:52.02`	`deltron`	`that's why they're junctions :P`
`20:52.12`	`Gnarfoz`	`see what I said about windows not having symlinks? -.- ;>`
`20:52.16`	`deltron`	`hehe`
`20:52.25`	`deltron`	`I wish it had symlinks`
`20:52.33`	`Ironhand`	`stupid question: I seem to have lost the Cartographer option to accept either all notes/only manual ones/none... where should it be in the menu?`
`20:52.42`	`hyperChipmunk`	`"# Deleting a JP using explorer is not safe — it will delete the targeted files immediately as if using shift-delete."`
`20:52.46`	`hyperChipmunk`	`rofl`
`20:53.03`	`deltron`	`Ironhand: notesharing I think`
`20:53.16`	`Gnarfoz`	`hyperChipmunk: that's not even astounding, windows does not give a really usable interface for using either hardlinks or junctions`
`20:53.16`	`nevcairiel`	`symlinks are supported as of vista`
`20:53.23`	`hyperChipmunk`	`"# Moving the JP to a different location on the same drive only moves the JP, however moving to another drive turns the JP into a normal folder and moves all files there (leaving the targeted directory empty)."`
`20:53.33`	`Ironhand`	`deltron: hmmm, I don't seem to have the Notesharing menu even though I have the addon installed...`
`20:53.57`	`nevcairiel`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_symbolic_link`
`20:54.02`	`nevcairiel`	`^^ as if vista ^^`
`20:54.05`	`deltron`	`Ironhand: latest version?`
`20:54.10`	`art3mis`	`go into the cart dir backup anything you might need and rm the entire contents of the cartographer directory`
`20:54.24`	`art3mis`	`then do a wau update without externals`
`20:54.27`	`art3mis`	`and itll be fixed`
`20:54.30`	`Ironhand`	`deltron: very recent, at least... but I'm checking things now`
`20:54.32`	`deltron`	`ok what he said`
`20:54.36`	`deltron`	`^^^`
`20:54.46`	`deltron`	`i'm trying mklink on my vista box`
`20:55.01`	`art3mis`	`mortal kombat link? sweet!`
`20:55.57`	`deltron`	`augh`
`20:55.59`	`deltron`	`i hate this`
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`20:56.04`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that os is an insult to field computer science`
`20:56.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`the field of*`
`20:56.19`	`deltron`	`you have to specify that you want to run cmd in an administrator mode`
`20:56.36`	`deltron`	`hyperChipmunk: I'm evaluating it for work currently, I HATE it`
`20:56.51`	`Gnarfoz`	`too bad Comp Sci has still not been able to provide a end user/desktop OS that can compete ;>`
`20:56.53`	`NeoTron`	`deltron: by default you need admin rights to run mklink`
`20:57.08`	`Gnarfoz`	`so until that day that happens, it will be part of this world :\`
`20:57.23`	`hyperChipmunk`	`deltron: not vista; windows`
`20:58.01`	`Gnarfoz`	`you better, windows bashing going on :>`
`20:58.03`	`durcyn`	`Gnarfoz: there was one once. It was called Amiga, and it should have taken over the world.`
`20:58.06`	`hyperChipmunk`	`but wrt vista...`
`20:58.18`	`durcyn`	`but hey, shit happens`
`20:58.20`	`hyperChipmunk`	`WHY call it 'mklink'?`
`20:58.29`	`Fisker-`	`ZOMG ANIMATED DESKTOPS ON VISTA`
`20:58.30`	`Fisker-`	`k?`
`20:58.34`	`NeoTron`	`hyperChipmunk: why not?`
`20:59.07`	`Gnarfoz`	`durcyn: how is AmigaOS a product of 'the field of comp sci' when amigaOS/workbench was clearly something produced by a privately owned company? :>`
`20:59.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`because there's been a standard command for it for 50 years! why not use that?`
`20:59.08`	`NeoTron`	`durcyn: the lack of Amiga success can easily be attributed to Commodore's complete and moronic handling of the system`
`20:59.11`	`deltron`	`hyperChipmunk: lol, yeah, I'm sure that's why most CS programs use some variant of unix`
`20:59.25`	ag`_	`the name Vista pisses me off`
`20:59.37`	`Gnarfoz`	`hyperChipmunk: it's called mklink because ... it MAKES a LINK :P`
`20:59.40`	ag`_	`they should just call it Windows 5.x or whatever:P`
`20:59.49`	`deltron`	`mklink didn't like my link I just made`
`20:59.52`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that's 6 letters`
`20:59.53`	`Gnarfoz`	`mkdir exists, too`
`20:59.54`	`hyperChipmunk`	`lol`
`20:59.58`	`Gnarfoz`	`lazy much?`
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`21:00.13`	`ckknight`	`deltron: actually my school seems to predominantly use Windows`
`21:00.18`	`Tovort_`	`If Computer Science people would ever try to build an OS, it wouldn't have a development time of 5 years but FOREVER :D`
`21:00.34`	`deltron`	`ckknight: heh when I was in college way back when, CS was all solaris :)`
`21:00.36`	`Gnarfoz`	`it's windows, not unix. how can you even try to use 'ln is only two letters' as an argument :D`
`21:00.48`	`hyperChipmunk`	`no, just use the command line enough to make that extra character efficiency be massive in the long run`
`21:00.50`	`deltron`	`cd`
`21:00.53`	`trh`	`Tovort_: are you talking about GNU/Hurd? :)`
`21:01.05`	`trh`	`i heard it'll get released this year :)`
`21:01.05`	`Gnarfoz`	`then create an alias ;\|`
`21:01.05`	`hyperChipmunk`	`because a command line is a command line`
`21:01.24`	`Fisker-`	`Powar ShelL!`
`21:01.29`	`OverloadUT`	`How did I know that hyperChipmunk wouldn't stop bashing Windows if I minimized IRC for 15 minutes?`
`21:01.38`	`deltron`	`powershell is nice (seriously)`
`21:01.40`	`hyperChipmunk`	`they're just being different to be different`
`21:01.40`	`Gnarfoz`	`OverloadUT: easy, CTCP VERSION :p`
`21:01.40`	`ckknight`	`why type 'print' when you can type 'prin', why type 'prin' when you can type 'prn', why type 'prn' when you can type 'xf'?`
`21:01.56`	`Fisker-`	`why type prn when you can type pr0n?`
`21:02.03`	`hyperChipmunk`	`lp`
`21:02.06`	`trh`	`Fisker-: lol.. i expected that`
`21:02.07`	`Gnarfoz`	`l2p.`
`21:02.16`	`trh`	`Gnarfoz: learn to pr0n?`
`21:02.23`	`OverloadUT`	`I like my commands to be extra long`
`21:02.27`	`Tovort_`	`trh: I've yet to meet a project at my university that gets into a "final" state - they are all very nice in theory, work very well on a number of use cases, but in general, are not usable on a wieder bases at all`
`21:02.36`	`Tovort_`	`i love the WSH`
`21:02.38`	`chutwig`	`System.Console.PleaseWriteThisForMeIfYouWouldBeSoKind()`
`21:02.41`	`Gnarfoz`	`hyperChipmunk: no, they are different because they can be and try to be user friendly to... their users, who most likely find the relation mkdir <> mklink more sensible than mkdir <> ln`
`21:02.48`	`Tovort_`	`but of course i'm a Javascript fan`
`21:02.53`	`trh`	`Tovort_: ya.. same at my university`
`21:03.07`	`Fisker-`	`Oh yeah chutwig`
`21:03.08`	`trh`	`Tovort_: but from a research point of view they are all kinda nice`
`21:03.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`is there a mkfile too?`
`21:03.20`	`chutwig`	`touch :o`
`21:03.26`	`Gnarfoz`	`echo "" > blah ?`
`21:03.33`	`Fisker-`	`Infact we should all remember to make this class that implements static methods which are harder to write`
`21:03.33`	`chutwig`	`it does violate the more than two characters edict`
`21:03.34`	`Gnarfoz`	`don't think there's touch on windows ^^`
`21:03.38`	`Tovort_`	`trh: of course, i like to work on some of those projects as well`
`21:03.44`	`chutwig`	`windows?!?`
`21:03.47`	`chutwig`	`you communists`
`21:03.47`	`hyperChipmunk`	`how about mksecurityhole`
`21:03.48`	`Fisker-`	`Console.OhReadTheInputYouStupidComputer()`
`21:04.04`	`deltron`	`fyi, mklink doesn't work`
`21:04.10`	`trh`	`Gnarfoz: its called echo. > <filename> ;)`
`21:04.14`	`Gnarfoz`	`hyperChipmunk: that's there, it's called installing an OS too complicated for the average windows user to correctly configure securely`
`21:04.16`	`deltron`	`I couldn't execute the program after I made the link heh`
`21:04.29`	`Gnarfoz`	`trh: ah, that's right ^^`
`21:04.31`	`CIA-17`	`03trh * r28609 10VanasKoS/ (9 files in 2 dirs):`
`21:04.31`	`CIA-17`	`VanasKoS:`
`21:04.31`	`CIA-17`	`- added options for warnframe coloring/alpha`
`21:04.31`	`CIA-17`	`- added options for content in warnframe and hiding if inactive`
`21:04.31`	`CIA-17`	`- expect more options to come`
`21:04.33`	`Tovort_`	`deltron: maybe it was ditched after beta or rc - typically M$ style`
`21:04.50`	`deltron`	`Tovort_: it's included in the RTM I'm using`
`21:04.56`	`deltron`	`just the link doesn't work..`
`21:06.14`	`Gnarfoz`	`I'd rather have windows users be protected by what windows has to offer than have them use some kind of Unix just to not be using windows but also NOT having a clue about the OS they're using :>`
`21:06.21`	`Fisker-`	`Reminds me of me trying to establish SQL connections`
`21:06.40`	`deltron`	`god vista pisses me off sometimes`
`21:06.46`	`Zicon`	`ckknight: Yes, that was the point. :P`
`21:06.51`	`Fisker-`	`i would be like server:ip\SQLEXPRESS:Attachdb:c:\etc; and so on`
`21:07.07`	`deltron`	`our terminal server GPO applies to vista now, so when I RDP into my vista box, it logs me out after half an hour :/`
`21:07.10`	`Fisker-`	`Then i found out i could do .\SQLEXPRESS;\|APPDIRECTORY\|\.mdf :o`
`21:08.00`	`deltron`	`heh`
`21:09.17`	`deltron`	`i don't care for sql`
`21:10.31`	`Fisker-`	`Neither do i :P`
`21:10.35`	`Fisker-`	`Part of my class though`
`21:10.38`	`chutwig`	`i like SQL :(`
`21:10.45`	`Fisker-`	`Pretty annoying since my laptop has Vista`
`21:10.46`	`deltron`	`ok, I take that back`
`21:10.51`	`chutwig`	`i just don't like microsoft's molested brand of it`
`21:10.51`	`deltron`	`I hate oracle`
`21:11.01`	`chutwig`	`i'll agree with you there`
`21:11.06`	`NeoTron`	`oracle sql isn't bad, admining oracle is`
`21:11.08`	`Fisker-`	`I don't like it either`
`21:11.20`	`chutwig`	`oracle's command-line client is pretty wretched`
`21:11.20`	`Fisker-`	`Because as standard the procedures for accessing the command shell is blocked`
`21:11.21`	`Fisker-`	`:(`
`21:11.24`	`Fisker-`	`And we're making shit code`
`21:11.31`	`chutwig`	`i think postgres has the best CLI client`
`21:11.33`	`Fisker-`	`so sql injections are as easy as punching yourself in the head`
`21:11.39`	`NeoTron`	`the world would be a better place if more software developers knew more about sql/databases`
`21:11.52`	`deltron`	`oh well I use SQuirreLSQL as my client nowadays`
`21:11.56`	`chutwig`	`force them to learn what normalization means`
`21:12.00`	`chutwig`	`and how to do at least a little bit of it`
`21:12.17`	`NeoTron`	`I don't expect every SDE to be an expert database developer/designer`
`21:12.24`	`Magentia`	`Hmm, anyone of you got the newest verision of Cycircled, mine wont skin Autobar and Bartender 3`
`21:12.36`	`NeoTron`	`but having some sort of knowledge helps tremendously`
`21:12.47`	`chutwig`	`just understanding what relational means would help a lot`
`21:12.55`	`NeoTron`	`I saw a developer, who had the title PhD even, fail to grasp some very basic stuf`
`21:13.11`	`hyperChipmunk`	`database theory is cool`
`21:13.13`	`NeoTron`	`problem: Check to see if a users zip-code is in a list of black listed zip codes (potentially quite large)`
`21:13.25`	`deltron`	`Magentia: i've not used cycircled in a bit`
`21:13.31`	`deltron`	`Magentia: i'll try it when I get home`
`21:13.32`	`Groll`	`"If you have a UI that lets you see the casting bar of your focus target" is that possible with ag?`
`21:13.34`	`hyperChipmunk`	`actually using an SQL database makes even COBOL programmers cry`
`21:13.48`	`NeoTron`	`solution: select zipcode from database, fetch row by row and put into a linked list (that was weird too), iterate through linked list to find a match`
`21:14.03`	`chutwig`	`NeoTron: wtb index`
`21:14.05`	`deltron`	`Groll: yes, I have casting bars in my ag_unitframes`
`21:14.22`	`chutwig`	`i like postgresql a lot because you can move a lot of application code directly into the database, like with oracle`
`21:14.23`	`Groll`	`deltron read again :P`
`21:14.27`	`NeoTron`	`correct solution: select count(*) as match from table where zipcode = ?`
`21:14.42`	`chutwig`	`of course it means putting more load on the database server, so it's a calculated tradeoff`
`21:14.45`	`deltron`	`ohh focus? I dunno, I don't use focus`
`21:14.45`	`Groll`	`deltron the focused target :P or targets target castbar :P`
`21:14.45`	`NeoTron`	`of course she was lacking in more than database understanding`
`21:14.51`	`Groll`	`oke :P`
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`21:15.18`	`chutwig`	`but i'm generally of the mindset that data manipulation should stay inside the database as much as possible before it gets spat out to the application`
`21:15.19`	`NeoTron`	`1) Don't fetch all the damn data, 2) why iterate through it putting it in a temporary container rather than matching as you fetch?, 3) why the heck put it in an O(n) container?`
`21:15.23`	`NeoTron`	`so yeah I wasn't impressed`
`21:15.40`	`deltron`	`ok going home, bbl`
`21:16.10`	`NeoTron`	`a simple almost instant index lookup in the databases turned into a significant data load, and chugging through the same data twice :)`
`21:16.11`	`chutwig`	`in my ideal world the application is just the view and the controller lives inside the database engine`
`21:21.05`	`NeoTron`	`I think a balance is good`
`21:21.15`	`NeoTron`	`too much logic in the database is also bad`
`21:21.48`	`NeoTron`	`if for no other reason than it's much easier to scale the application tier than the database, typically monolithic or expensive/complex rack setups`
`21:21.49`	`chutwig`	`not saying it should always be that way, but i tend to like including basic logic in the database if it's something that will get frequent reuse`
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`21:22.12`	`Magentia`	`http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8328/modsxq9.jpg, what skin is on the Autobar?`
`21:23.51`	`Magentia`	`Cant seem to find it in the ordinarty 'cyCircled'`
`21:24.36`	`chutwig`	`especially if it's something that lends itself well to being expressed in pl/pgsql`
`21:28.13`	`trh`	`omg.. i hate writing "," instead of "."`
`21:28.45`	`Kinkx`	`Does Netherspite enrage at 5% ?`
`21:30.01`	`chutwig`	`so much hunter loot in karazhan last night`
`21:34.01`	`CIA-17`	`03trh * r28610 10VanasKoS/ (VanasKoS.lua VanasKoSWarnFrame.lua): VanasKoS: typo`
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`21:38.35`	`Ironhand`	`is there a way to show per-addon memory usage, other than enabling & disabling them selectively and seeing the result?`
`21:40.45`	`Silviu-`	`Ironhand wait for 2.1.0`
`21:40.46`	`Silviu-`	`;p`
`21:41.07`	`Ironhand`	`of WoW? or of some particular addon?`
`21:41.23`	`Elkano`	`WoW`
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`21:41.40`	`Elkano`	`will bring a lot of new stuff making such addons possible`
`21:41.47`	`Ironhand`	`ok, will have to use the poor man's way until then :-) thx`
`21:47.23`	`ckknight`	`what'd be a macro to toggle my attack? I know there's /startattack and /stopattack, but how would I toggle between the two?`
`21:48.27`	`hyperChipmunk`	`/attack i think`
`21:48.57`	`ckknight`	`nope`
`21:49.24`	`hyperChipmunk`	`oh, it's /attacktarget`
`21:49.43`	`hyperChipmunk`	`n/m that's an emote`
`21:49.45`	`hyperChipmunk`	`hmm`
`21:50.30`	`hyperChipmunk`	`/cast attack? =x`
`21:51.14`	`ckknight`	`that works`
`21:51.29`	`hyperChipmunk`	`good deal`
`21:51.30`	`trh`	`does /cast attack also stop attacking?`
`21:52.42`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, looks like it`
`21:52.54`	`hyperChipmunk`	`has to be in a macro for that, though; can't type it in combat`
`21:53.14`	`ckknight`	`you can type it in combat, why couldn't you?`
`21:54.02`	`hyperChipmunk`	`hm, i got an ui action blocked error`
`21:54.24`	`trh`	`does anyone here has experience with securetemplates? if so, is it possible to make a button that targets a person out of combat, if yes, is it further possible to modify the target if in combat?`
`21:54.36`	`hyperChipmunk`	`oh, it's complaining about Ace`
`21:54.52`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i really need to get my scratch addon to ace2 =P`
`21:55.01`	`trh`	`(as far as i read its not possible in combat)`
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`21:57.10`	`hyperChipmunk`	`you can, but first you have to offer your dog in ritual sacrifice to the blizzard development team`
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`22:01.54`	`themo`	`just one question: work hardlinks with MusicStream?`
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`22:09.50`	`themo`	`ok, i think it works, generate.exe can access the linked files`
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`22:11.17`	`Kaelten`	`math is fun?`
`22:11.19`	`Kaelten`	`ewe`
`22:11.49`	`Fin`	`boll`
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`22:17.13`	`art3mis`	`hrm rad`
`22:17.26`	`art3mis`	`i just found out that i can get a second analog control nub for my psp`
`22:24.51`	`OverloadUT`	`What Ace library should I look in to for doing things when guild members sign on?`
`22:26.33`	`Elkano`	`event GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE?`
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`22:32.30`	`OverloadUT`	`Elkano: GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE only tells me that it was updated. Then I'd have to scan through the roster and figure out who signed online. I figured there is an ace lib that does this.`
`22:33.01`	`Elkano`	`RollLib?`
`22:33.32`	`Chinku`	`nymbia: does manufac sort all recipes correctly according to the list of defaults with the enUS client? I still have the problem that nothing gets sorted at all and I don't have any idea how to solve it.`
`22:34.19`	`OverloadUT`	`Ah, RollCall does it. Thanks`
`22:35.18`	`Elkano`	`:)`
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`22:52.42`	`trh`	`is there some kind of loopback for ZONE/GUILD messages in acecomm for debugging purposes?`
`22:53.43`	`vhaarr`	`Why would you need that?`
`22:54.01`	`vhaarr`	`you send the messages anyway, just invoke your own handler.`
`22:54.33`	`trh`	`yea.. but would be nicer just to enable loopback and dont have to code something which has to be commented out later`
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`22:57.03`	`vhaarr`	`trh: Modify your AceComm copy.`
`22:57.14`	`vhaarr`	`trh: Remove lines 1829 to 1831.`
`22:57.57`	`trh`	`thanks`
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`23:00.20`	`ckknight`	`hello, friends`
`23:01.34`	`ckknight`	ag`_: did you have a bug in Parser-3.0?
`23:02.17`	ag`_	`ckknight: if I register with a source type of Enviromental`
`23:02.20`	ag`_	`I get an error`
`23:02.24`	ag`_	`I can't remember the line now`
`23:02.28`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r28612 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - added comparison _notin`
`23:02.29`	ag`_	`sent it to you yesterday I think`
`23:02.36`	`ckknight`	`yea, but I was in BFD`
`23:02.40`	ag`_	`maybe it was line 1307`
`23:02.43`	ag`_	`I am not sure`
`23:03.19`	`ckknight`	`found it`
`23:03.22`	`ckknight`	`let's see if I can reproduce`
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`23:05.56`	`ckknight`	ag`_: just { eventType = "Environmental" } ?
`23:06.23`	ag`_	`yeah`
`23:06.26`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Rophy: you around?`
`23:06.28`	ag`_	`as far as I remember`
`23:06.43`	`ckknight`	ag`_: it works for me
`23:07.18`	ag`_	`if the transcript browser in my IRC client didn't suck so much I'd dig up what I wrote you before`
`23:07.29`	ag`_	`anyway I'll test it in a while`
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`23:24.40`	`ckknight`	`okay, I want a whole bunch of mining nodes`
`23:24.42`	`ckknight`	`how would I get them?`
`23:24.48`	`ckknight`	`I'm Horde-side`
`23:25.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i've got a ton, but they're all in outland`
`23:25.18`	`ckknight`	`nah, I need Azeroth`
`23:26.06`	`Bejitt`	`dun morogh?`
`23:26.13`	`Bejitt`	`it has a lot of copper`
`23:26.17`	`Feldia`	`anyone know of a freely available irc bot that can fetch item info etc from wowhead/allakhazam?`
`23:26.24`	`ckknight`	`I'm Horde.`
`23:26.41`	`hyperChipmunk`	`oh`
`23:26.44`	`hyperChipmunk`	`south barrens`
`23:26.45`	`NeoTron`	`you want nodes (to mine) or nodes (populated in cartographer)?`
`23:26.55`	`ckknight`	`well, both`
`23:26.56`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, i thought you meant carto too`
`23:27.43`	`ckknight`	`yea, I meant carto`
`23:28.07`	`NeoTron`	`I must have some but I'm primarily alliance - 60 shaman that had mining though`
`23:28.10`	`NeoTron`	`I suspect it's in there`
`23:29.04`	`NeoTron`	`and it also have like 50 nodes around the dark portal - it seems no matter how many nodes, I still find new ones in that area`
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`23:32.43`	`AKX`	`WTB Cartographer feature: /way corpse`
`23:34.00`	`AKX`	`ckknight, see above. Also, /hug`
`23:34.03`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i wrote it`
`23:34.06`	`hyperChipmunk`	`wobin broked it`
`23:34.11`	`AKX`	`Uhu`
`23:34.32`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and i'd rather complain about it than fix it myself`
`23:34.48`	`hyperChipmunk`	`because it's fun to complain at wobin; he's a funny dude`
`23:34.48`	`AKX`	`WTB also "shift-ctrl-click wherever on map = /way x,y`
`23:35.18`	`NeoTron`	`AKX: ah that'd be a nice feature`
`23:35.26`	`hyperChipmunk`	`...and a /note <name> to place a note at your current position...yea, we know all about 'em`
`23:35.44`	`NeoTron`	`hyperChipmunk: /note hyperChipmunk to place a note where hyperChipmunk is? ;-)`
`23:35.44`	`AKX`	`Then chop chop, get to work. :P`
`23:36.04`	`hyperChipmunk`	`>*p`
`23:36.21`	`hyperChipmunk`	`NeoTron: did your client really substitute my name?`
`23:36.29`	`NeoTron`	`hyperChipmunk: I typed it`
`23:36.34`	`hyperChipmunk`	`ah k`
`23:37.15`	`NeoTron`	`so why does the name hyperChipmunk makes me think of Sandy in Spongebob? :)`
`23:37.19`	`NeoTron`	`(yes, I have kids)`
`23:37.22`	`AKX`	`Haha`
`23:37.34`	`AKX`	`Spongebob isn't a bad series even if you don't have kids, mind you`
`23:37.39`	`OverloadUT`	`NeoTron: Suuuure you do ;)`
`23:37.53`	`AKX`	`I'm not ashamed to say I like Spongebob. :P`
`23:38.15`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it actually should be hyperactiveChipmunk, but it doesn't fit in freenode nick limits >8P`
`23:38.30`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it's the man keepin' me down`
`23:38.39`	`NeoTron`	`I spend a lot of time watching cartoons with the kids :P`
`23:38.46`	`NeoTron`	`on a voluntary basis`
`23:38.56`	`Gngsk`	`spongebob owns`
`23:39.14`	`NeoTron`	`that said, I can't stand anything involving barbie, my little pony, wonderpets (that thing is WEIRD)...`
`23:39.19`	`OverloadUT`	`You know what I love? CorkFu`
`23:39.49`	`Gngsk`	`same, though I do miss the ability to click cast buffs`
`23:40.11`	`NeoTron`	`I seem to love playing classes that can heal because I just decided my new alt should be a priest`
`23:40.13`	`OverloadUT`	`I don't understand why that's not there`
`23:40.29`	`Gngsk`	`because the frames aren't secure`
`23:40.36`	`NeoTron`	`that'd be my 6th healing class I level`
`23:40.53`	`Gngsk`	`uh...`
`23:40.54`	`OverloadUT`	`But isn't it possible when outside of combat?`
`23:40.56`	`Gngsk`	`there's six healing classes?`
`23:40.59`	`Gngsk`	`OverloadUT, no`
`23:41.00`	`NeoTron`	`no`
`23:41.17`	`Gngsk`	`ok, didn't think so!`
`23:41.19`	`NeoTron`	`I played a druid to 60 in beta (and priest to 45ish), and in release I've played pally/shaman/priest/druid to 60`
`23:41.37`	`NeoTron`	`then I quit and started over with a warlock...`
`23:41.55`	`NeoTron`	`which is a lot of fun mind you. but I seem to like to level characters even though I don't like levelling them that much :)`
`23:42.03`	`NeoTron`	`yes, it makes no sense`
`23:44.27`	`ckknight`	`I have no idea what talents I should choose for my warrior`
`23:44.49`	`NeoTron`	`ones that hurt stuff`
`23:45.21`	`ckknight`	`the goal is to level as fast as possible`
`23:45.25`	`ckknight`	`how can I accomplish that?`
`23:45.47`	`nevcairiel`	`dont sleep.`
`23:46.03`	`NeoTron`	`arms / fury or fury / arms with a power levelling guide?`
`23:46.05`	`nevcairiel`	`and i liked fury for leveling`
`23:46.12`	`ckknight`	`I have a power leveling guide`
`23:46.20`	`NeoTron`	`I will not pretend to know the best spec though - highest warrior is level 20ish in beta`
`23:46.49`	`Bejitt`	`yea go arms`
`23:46.52`	`OverloadUT`	`That wouldn't stop most people from claiming to know everyting about the class in 2.0 ;)`
`23:46.55`	`Bejitt`	`er wtf`
`23:47.06`	`Bejitt`	`fury`
`23:47.34`	`NeoTron`	`OverloadUT: heh. I don't even pretend to know everything about playing a warlock :-)`
`23:47.49`	`Bejitt`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pZVV0VxxoVuVo go down the tree like that`
`23:47.57`	`NeoTron`	`except that I know for me it's either demonology (favorite) or affliction`
`23:48.22`	`OverloadUT`	`NeoTron: A man after my own heart!`
`23:48.37`	`Bejitt`	`you want crit%, more rage on hits, and faster speed mainly`
`23:49.19`	`NeoTron`	`I do feel it to be a bit sad that I was #1 on damage in Karazhan... by myself (i.e not including pet damage which further buffed me). And this before the aoe-areas really increased it`
`23:49.53`	`NeoTron`	`is fury dual-wield or 2h spec typically?`
`23:49.59`	ag`_	`oh ckknight`
`23:50.00`	`Bejitt`	`mostly DW`
`23:50.00`	`hyperChipmunk`	`dw`
`23:50.04`	`hyperChipmunk`	`arms is 2h`
`23:50.05`	`ckknight`	ag`_: oh!
`23:50.09`	`NeoTron`	`ok`
`23:50.12`	`Bejitt`	`you can do 2H Fury actually`
`23:50.23`	`Bejitt`	`bust arms is more 2h friendly`
`23:50.26`	`Bejitt`	`*but`
`23:50.42`	ag`_	`about parser-3.0 Environmental, I didn't see a way to filter by spell name`
`23:50.46`	`NeoTron`	`so you want 2x http://thottbot.com/?i=16653 when you get there :P`
`23:50.47`	`hyperChipmunk`	`you can do wand damage with fire mage spec, too`
`23:50.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`don't mean it's meant for it =p`
`23:50.56`	`ckknight`	ag`_: hazardType
`23:51.12`	`ckknight`	`or damageType`
`23:51.14`	`hyperChipmunk`	`everyone knows that you need improved wand from the arcane tree for that!`
`23:51.45`	ag`_	`Ah ckknight !`
`23:51.55`	ag`_	`It's Notification`
`23:52.05`	ag`_	`not Envi. I had trouble with`
`23:55.41`	`NeoTron`	`so worst priest PUG request ever: Someone asked our priest to help them with the mt hyjal attunement quest`
`23:55.51`	`NeoTron`	`i.e the "finish the two lower 25-man raid instances" quest`
`23:56.32`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r28613 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - fixed typo with LOOT_ITEM events`
`23:56.42`	`ckknight`	ag`_: fixed
`23:56.49`	ag`_	`ckknight: thanks, one thing more though`
`23:56.53`	`ckknight`	`oh?`
`23:56.58`	ag`_	`Notification`
`23:57.04`	ag`_	`Power Gain`
`23:57.12`	ag`_	`if it's mana`
`23:57.19`	ag`_	`effectName will be Mana right?`
`23:57.34`	`ckknight`	`um, I guess?`
`23:57.41`	`ckknight`	`not sure`
`23:57.46`	ag`_	`problem is`
`23:57.48`	`ckknight`	`try it out`
`23:57.52`	ag`_	`Mana can be the result of a spell`
`23:58.02`	ag`_	`Vampiric Touch gives mana`
`23:58.07`	ag`_	`so in the combat log it will say`
`23:58.14`	ag`_	`You gain x mana from Vampiric Touch`
`23:58.28`	ag`_	`but there's no way to filter Notification by spell`
`23:58.43`	ag`_	`if I wanted to look for Vampiric Touch as source of mana gain`

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