irclog2html for #wowace on 20070305

`00:02.31`	`nymbia`	`update @ revision`
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`00:03.09`	`CIA-18`	`03ominous * r29560 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (9 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_RogueTimerFu: Reverted to a revision with reapplications`
`00:04.29`	`CIA-18`	`03fenlis * r29561 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: Updated localization koKR`
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`00:08.04`	`CIA-18`	`03trh * r29562 10VanasKoS/modules/ (DataGatherer.lua WarnFrame.lua): VanasKoS: WarnFrame changed to fade in and out if "hide if inactive" is selected`
`00:15.55`	`hugo`	`hey guys, totaly out of topic, bud does anyone use simplemachines forum ? ;o`
`00:17.06`	`hugo`	`? whaat ;]`
`00:17.36`	`*** join/#wowace Ominous_ (i=HydraIRC@88-111-25-246.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)`
`00:18.00`	`hugo`	`well think is, im noob at webhosting and these forums and cms's ok, and the webhosting provider is asking me if i want mysql5 php5 with safe mode ON or OFF`
`00:18.07`	`hugo`	`and i dunno witch i need, on or off ? :)`
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`00:22.47`	`*** join/#wowace Kaelten-Laptop (n=chatzill@adsl-71-141-122-243.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net)`
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`00:23.06`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ello`
`00:23.18`	`TheKarn`	`Kaelten-Laptop, slacker`
`00:23.35`	`Ominous`	`ey`
`00:23.46`	`TheKarn`	`ey-up and away`
`00:23.52`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`TheKarn: hrm?`
`00:24.04`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`nope, I've been out for hours`
`00:24.06`	`TheKarn`	`i dunno .. felt like a random insult time`
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`00:24.27`	`Gnarfoz`	`http://www.pigdog.org/auto/mr_bads_list/shortcolumn/1914.html`
`00:24.34`	`oDaemona`	`anyone know a mod that keeps track of extra procs from potion/elixir/transmute mastery?`
`00:25.44`	`break19`	`anyone else having problems with the latest ACP not being recognized as an addon?`
`00:25.47`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`whats with th oName stuff?`
`00:26.01`	`break19`	`Kaelten-Laptop: they caught a nasty ovirus`
`00:26.01`	`Ominous`	`anyone here got vista "DONT KILL ME" i need to ask a question about it`
`00:26.11`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm?`
`00:26.12`	`Ominous`	`yes its spreading at a rate of nots`
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`00:26.21`	`JJSheets`	`Ominous, you poor poor bastard, the answer is reformat and reinstall XP.`
`00:26.23`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`Ominous we have it at the office`
`00:26.25`	`TheKarn`	`Ominous, i've been using ultimate for 3 weeks now`
`00:26.26`	`TheKarn`	`if not 4`
`00:26.33`	`break19`	`gah, wassat. scratches crazily`
`00:26.35`	`Ominous`	`is your msn working`
`00:26.39`	`obreak19`	`ack`
`00:26.40`	`TheKarn`	`yeah`
`00:26.45`	`Ominous`	`god dammit`
`00:26.55`	`TheKarn`	`stop running the RTM :P`
`00:26.57`	`Ominous`	`my vista pc is the only one it dosent work on on our network`
`00:27.06`	`Ominous`	`RTM?`
`00:27.19`	`TheKarn`	`there was a problem with the Release To Manufacturing release`
`00:27.36`	`obreak19`	`TheKarn: its windows.. what else is new`
`00:27.43`	`TheKarn`	`lol`
`00:27.45`	`Rihlsul`	`Heya, I'm looking for someone who might be able to answer a couple of localization questions using AceLocale-2.2`
`00:27.50`	`Ominous`	`i am using the version which i brought`
`00:28.04`	`Ominous`	`omg everyone is doing that`
`00:28.45`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`does the o mean anything or is it just a fasion statement?`
`00:29.00`	`oKarn`	`o .. i don't know`
`00:29.10`	`oKarn`	`i was made by otravi`
`00:29.18`	`oKarn`	`s/otravi/haste/`
`00:29.20`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`lol`
`00:29.26`	`Ominous`	`i think haste did it after a discussion on wowi instead of changing his name to otravi due to a haste rating or something`
`00:29.33`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm took his oShot(tm)`
`00:29.54`	`obreak19`	`oh no.. I think its metastisizing.`
`00:30.13`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`00:30.17`	`Rihlsul`	`Specifically, I'm working on my XML files and I'm unsure the proper means by which to utilize AceLocale-2.2 for text within the XML. I have a way that works, but I would surmise it's not the most efficient way`
`00:30.35`	`oOobreak19`	`damn I feel like being a dork tonite. heh`
`00:30.43`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`Rihlsul: could ditch xml files?`
`00:31.07`	`Rihlsul`	`I'm addon noobish - it's probably possible, but beyond my knowledge`
`00:31.22`	`oKarn`	`use uiQuery :P`
`00:31.25`	`break19`	`ahh.. musta went into remission`
`00:32.05`	`Rihlsul`	`(looking over uiQuery)`
`00:32.38`	`oKarn`	`not sure if its ready yet ... Kaelten-Laptop what stage is uiQuery?`
`00:35.40`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm?`
`00:35.43`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`its usable`
`00:35.47`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`not sure how many if any bugs exist`
`00:35.53`	`Rihlsul`	`alrighty... presuming uiQuery is too early stage, what addons would you recommend I wade into the lua to understand how to draw complex UI's without XML? Since I'm pretty early in learning, now's the time to get to know new methods`
`00:36.14`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`Rihlsul: OneBag has some neat stuff`
`00:36.19`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`also the new KC_Items in branches`
`00:37.09`	`JoshBorke`	`Kaelten-Laptop: erm. couple things. svn2.wowace.com no longer points to a svn mirror`
`00:37.21`	`Rihlsul`	`Thank you very much. I'm used to other dev environments, but addon dev is new to me.`
`00:37.23`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`JoshBorke: hrm?`
`00:37.34`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`we only have svn1.wowace.com thats an active mirror now`
`00:37.48`	`Rihlsul`	`Oh, Josh: hey, I'm friends with Kevorkian aka Bones, working with him on that scheduler project`
`00:37.55`	`JoshBorke`	`Rihlsul: oh cool :-)`
`00:38.10`	`break19`	`Kaelten-Laptop: you perked my interest, what have ya done lately to kci2? :)`
`00:38.18`	`JoshBorke`	`Kaelten-Laptop: hrm. mmk. perhaps you should remove the DNS entries for the other mirrors?`
`00:38.58`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`break19: try it and find out :)`
`00:39.08`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`JoshBorke: I've thought about it`
`00:39.18`	`JoshBorke`	`Kaelten-Laptop: and is there anything else in One* you want me to fix for you?`
`00:39.30`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm,`
`00:39.32`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`maybe :)`
`00:39.34`	`Rihlsul`	`Josh: yar. He's on comms and data handling, I'm battling the UI front. heh. I'm made great progress in visuals, but it's XML/Lua mix, which I'm being advised to work my way away from`
`00:39.38`	`break19`	`Kaelten-Laptop: just might do that, how far away is it from replacing the ace1 version?`
`00:40.05`	`JoshBorke`	`Rihlsul: the only reason I can see to move away from XML objects is if there is the possibility that the UI wouldn't be shown`
`00:41.19`	`oKarn`	`JoshBorke, LUA UIs are dynamic, XML objects mostly static`
`00:41.35`	`Rihlsul`	`Josh: ah. The stage I'm at is that the basic functional skeleton to the whole interface is in place - I just have to add meat. Since I'm early on, I'm looking at implementing AceLocale to localize it before it's a huge conversion project. Just trying to sort out how to use AceLocale within XML`
`00:41.54`	`Rihlsul`	`thankfully, I'm doing mostly static elements, so I should be OK.`
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`00:43.30`	`Rihlsul`	`JoshBorke: for example, what I have working with Locale & XML is an OnLoad call like: local L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.2"):new("SAGA"); self:SetText(L["Events"]); but I would imagine 1200 calls to a :new AceLocale object is going to kick most systems in tender places`
`00:43.55`	`JoshBorke`	`Rihlsul: look at other Ace Mods and how they use AceLocale`
`00:44.21`	`JoshBorke`	`you should be able to use a single ace locale instance for all of your localisations`
`00:44.26`	`JoshBorke`	`and i like the mod name :-)`
`00:44.58`	`Rihlsul`	`JoshBorke: Hopefully I'll be able to sort it. I've had a tough time finding any addon that uses both the AceLocale library and XML. Most folks are more savvy and have gone XML-less`
`00:45.56`	`JoshBorke`	`Rihlsul: hm. all you need to do is have the OnLoad call some lua function, then it will be just like any other mod`
`00:46.37`	`JoshBorke`	`oKarn: i know ;-)`
`00:47.01`	`JoshBorke`	`oKarn: but XML can still be used for creating templates for dynamic objects`
`00:47.29`	`JoshBorke`	`which, i don't know if i'm right or not, might be a better performer than using purely lua for repetitive frame creation`
`00:47.47`	`oKarn`	`yeah it is iirc`
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`00:49.24`	`break19`	`Kaelten-Laptop: will the kci2 import/use my old database yet? or is that gonna be a "oh so sorry" kinda thing? :)`
`00:50.03`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`break19: well kci1.0 is missing the linkview and some of the tooltip info`
`00:50.09`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`auction databases aren't really comparable.`
`00:50.11`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`at all`
`00:50.22`	`Rihlsul`	`welp, I'll go with what works for now, but I'll keep an eye on my translation usage as a possible source or programmatical embaressment in the form of great inefficiencies. =)`
`00:50.43`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`believe it or not it'd be pointless to convert that db`
`00:50.49`	`JoshBorke`	`Rihlsul: if you'd like, there are people here who would be more than happy to help :-)`
`00:50.58`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I'm going to import a new master sell value database and ship it with the addon.`
`00:51.00`	`JoshBorke`	`I DO NOT BELIEVE IT!`
`00:51.08`	`JoshBorke`	`:-P`
`00:51.09`	`break19`	`alritey.. but I already know ah prices too :)`
`00:51.12`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`btw, how many KC_Items .9 users we have here?`
`00:51.46`	`break19`	`one of my guildies is a recent convert from auctionsneer :p`
`00:51.55`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`JoshBorke: actually I wanted to talk toyou and see if you are possiblily interested into continueing work on it?`
`00:52.23`	`oKarn`	`continuing work on the old version?`
`00:52.41`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`JoshBorke: combine that is`
`00:52.44`	`JoshBorke`	`Kaelten-Laptop: oh dear Kaelten-Laptop. haven't you heard about my Guildbook addon? that got driven to the ground :-/`
`00:52.56`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`JoshBorke: hrm?`
`00:52.57`	`Rihlsul`	`I heard - very sad. =(`
`00:52.59`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`nope whats that?`
`00:53.32`	`JoshBorke`	`it was an in-game database type mod`
`00:53.52`	`JoshBorke`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5370-GuildBook.html`
`00:54.29`	`Rihlsul`	`I was very looking forward to it too. =(`
`00:54.36`	`JoshBorke`	`Rihlsul: me too :-(`
`00:54.38`	`JJSheets`	`What was it supposed to do?`
`00:54.56`	`Rihlsul`	`In-game guidl knowledgebase`
`00:54.58`	`JoshBorke`	`JJSheets: basically it was supposed to be an in-game knowledgebase`
`00:55.29`	`JJSheets`	`ah... like wowhead in game?`
`00:55.29`	`JJSheets`	`or am I missing the point totally? :)`
`00:55.29`	`JoshBorke`	`no. more like a collection of strategies in game`
`00:55.38`	`JoshBorke`	`because no one in my guild ever went to the forums to read all the wicked cool stuff i would write`
`00:56.03`	`JoshBorke`	`so here we could put boss strategies etc for bosses and then they could pull it up in game without taxing their system`
`00:56.05`	`Rihlsul`	`I was waiting for a V1.0 before throwing feature requests on the pile myself`
`00:56.25`	`JoshBorke`	`Rihlsul: i already have a feature-request list a mile long :-P`
`00:56.32`	`JJSheets`	`so... it got nixxed? Why?`
`00:56.38`	`JoshBorke`	`encryption, automagic opening/closing, a better editor etc`
`00:57.03`	`JoshBorke`	`JJSheets: 1) i ran out of motivation. 2) RL got in the way 3) (recently) left the guild`
`00:57.15`	`JoshBorke`	`oh and 4) hard to find people to help me`
`00:57.18`	`JJSheets`	`bah. No reason not to continue. :)`
`00:57.40`	`oOverloadUT`	`I agree!`
`00:57.42`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`00:58.16`	`JoshBorke`	`now that I'm 70, i've considered working on it again`
`00:58.24`	`Rihlsul`	`I sympathize JB, until Kevorkian and I were under the same guild roof again, the SAGA project stalled to a dead stop`
`00:58.56`	`JoshBorke`	`one day it might come back`
`00:59.11`	`JoshBorke`	`Kaelten-Laptop: sorry to digress. but yea, i'd be more than happy, honored even, to work on Combine`
`00:59.48`	`kenlyric\|home`	`They're collaborators with the alien overlords in city 17.`
`01:00.07`	`JoshBorke`	`er...?`
`01:00.22`	`JoshBorke`	`Rihlsul: btw, have you seen Combine?`
`01:00.26`	`break19`	`kenlyric\|home: sounds like fun, where do I sign up?`
`01:00.32`	`Rihlsul`	`Nope`
`01:01.11`	`JoshBorke`	`i'll go ahead and get it back to where it was before 2.0`
`01:01.12`	`oOverloadUT`	`What is Combine?`
`01:01.12`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`SAGA?`
`01:01.15`	`JoshBorke`	`ie, doing nothing =D`
`01:01.26`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm Combine?`
`01:01.35`	`JoshBorke`	`yea :-P`
`01:01.43`	`*** join/#wowace Nayon (n=MeflakCa@pool-72-74-232-52.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)`
`01:01.46`	`JoshBorke`	`last time i looked at it it showed me a great looking calendar`
`01:01.48`	`JoshBorke`	`but that was about it`
`01:01.56`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`yep thats about it`
`01:02.04`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`the guild that commissioned me to make it left wow`
`01:02.04`	`Nayon`	`Anyone up for Helping me out with some code?`
`01:02.17`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`with a capital H? na I'll pass`
`01:02.19`	`JoshBorke`	`Rihlsul: Combine and SAGA are basically the same mod`
`01:02.23`	`Rihlsul`	`Kaelten - Scheduled Adventures Guild Addon. In- and Inter-Guild event scheduling system`
`01:02.33`	`Rihlsul`	`how intruiging`
`01:02.41`	`JoshBorke`	`Rihlsul: intra/inter :-D`
`01:02.43`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`Rihlsul: ah, Combine was going to be coming into that kinda stuff`
`01:02.47`	`JoshBorke`	`(learned intra in psychology)`
`01:03.17`	`oOverloadUT`	`As a programmer, I would have expected you to learn it in computers - "intranet" :P`
`01:03.32`	`Nayon`	`Can I borrow someone who understands lua better than I do?`
`01:03.33`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`right now it has a really spiffy calendar display`
`01:03.44`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`will evan survive the funky leap year of 2100`
`01:03.52`	`JoshBorke`	`when he says spiffy, he means REALLY spiffy`
`01:03.54`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`nayon if its something quick I'll help if not.`
`01:03.56`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`not.`
`01:04.05`	`Nayon`	`I hope its quick`
`01:04.09`	`JoshBorke`	`ask in channel`
`01:04.19`	`Nayon`	`Channel?`
`01:04.28`	`JoshBorke`	`lots of people are dopes and will click on links in channel that go to pastey ;-)`
`01:04.34`	`oOverloadUT`	`You've spent more time asking permission to ask than it probably would have to just ask ;)`
`01:05.20`	`Nayon`	`Kaelten: I have compact combo bar working with 2.0 version of wow, but I am trying to add an enegy ticker and I for the life of me can't get it working.`
`01:05.30`	`Rihlsul`	`@Kael: lol. I've done nothing spiffy so far. Hopefully my associate's asynch event comms will be the heart of spiffy. The UI for SAGA will likely just be sufficient for quite a while. Would be curious to see Combine`
`01:07.29`	`oOverloadUT`	`So the guy who wrote a mod that is near identical to Cart_QuestObjectives has asked to work together on a unified mod because there's no real point to compete. I agree with his reasons, but... I don't do join coding; it's just not how I roll. I don't know how to tell him no without being an ass.`
`01:07.38`	`WobWork`	`Nayon: Borrow from GonffBar, or kenergybar`
`01:08.11`	`Nayon`	`WobWork: Why? What do they do?`
`01:08.20`	`WobWork`	`energy ticking`
`01:08.36`	`Rihlsul`	`@overload: "It would be great, I agree with you - but, I'm no good working on team projects, so no thank you." It's not being an ass, it's being honest. =)`
`01:08.42`	`Nayon`	`Thats Fantastic, I kind of wanted to get rid of the 2nd mod for it and have it all in one`
`01:09.03`	`WobWork`	`well gonffbar has both combo/energy in one bar`
`01:09.09`	`JJSheets`	`oOverloadUT, send him a link to you.justgotowned.com`
`01:09.22`	`Nayon`	`target hpmp/selfhp/selfenergy?`
`01:09.42`	`Rihlsul`	`Anywho, I'm splitting to go make dinner. Hey Josh, drop me a hello sometime directly. On almost every messenger type as Rihlsul or Rihlsul@thedirtyhordes.com`
`01:10.09`	`JJSheets`	`oOverloadUT, wait... you said WITHOUT being an ass... n/m...`
`01:10.27`	`JoshBorke`	`interesting, upvalue error...`
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`01:11.57`	`oOverloadUT`	`JJSheets: Oh my god that was awesome. Reminds me of http://jjsheets.youaremighty.com/`
`01:12.28`	`JJSheets`	`:)`
`01:13.08`	`OverloadUT`	`My wacky new name was messing up my pinging thing :P`
`01:13.18`	`JJSheets`	`hah`
`01:14.11`	`JoshBorke`	`how do i add a slash command in ace? o.O`
`01:15.49`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`JJSheets: it also handles beast training`
`01:15.52`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`of all fucking things`
`01:15.59`	`JJSheets`	`O.o`
`01:16.08`	`JJSheets`	`Oh yeah... I remember that now...`
`01:16.22`	`JJSheets`	`Funkin strange...`
`01:16.24`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`yep, game me some headaches when I was working on KC_EnhancedTrades`
`01:16.51`	`CIA-18`	`03sayclub * r29563 10Decursive/localization.kr.lua:`
`01:16.51`	`CIA-18`	`Decursive:`
`01:16.51`	`CIA-18`	`- Update locale koKR`
`01:18.13`	`CIA-18`	`03joshborke * r29564 10Combine/ (Combine.lua Combine.toc Combine.xml libs/ locals.lua): Combine - updated to toc 20003. look at the spiffiness with /script Combine:OnEnable()`
`01:18.29`	`JoshBorke`	`Kaelten-Laptop: all done :-P`
`01:18.33`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`01:18.56`	`JoshBorke`	`no no, i mean: ok, you're turn`
`01:19.08`	`JoshBorke`	`s/you're/your`
`01:19.08`	`JoshBorke`	`/`
`01:19.11`	`JoshBorke`	`dangit!`
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`01:19.40`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`hallo`
`01:20.28`	`JoshBorke`	`erm, year 2100 isn't a leap year?`
`01:20.37`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`whats an ace Itemrack replacement?`
`01:20.45`	`break19`	`Diabolic-Destiny: closetgnome`
`01:20.46`	`JoshBorke`	`closetgnome`
`01:20.50`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`by itself?`
`01:20.52`	`Gnarfoz`	`you don't need one`
`01:20.54`	`Gnarfoz`	`;D`
`01:20.58`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`:P i do im lazy`
`01:21.08`	`JoshBorke`	`what's wrong with ItemRack?`
`01:21.09`	`Gnarfoz`	`what does it not do that you need? ;)`
`01:21.13`	`sylvanaar`	`TradeskillInfo best mod ever`
`01:21.17`	`JoshBorke`	`is it laggy? Does it use too many resources?`
`01:21.29`	`break19`	`Gnarfoz: it doesnt allow updating like the ace stuff does :p`
`01:21.34`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`it hasnt been updated in ages`
`01:21.44`	`JoshBorke`	`Diabolic-Destiny: which one? did you look at his beta 2.0 one?`
`01:21.49`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`no..`
`01:21.55`	`Gnarfoz`	`so what? it's not broken and does everything and the kitchensink, what does it need an update for? :D`
`01:21.58`	`JoshBorke`	`and since when did files.wowace.com become a reason to use a mod?`
`01:22.03`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`is it better`
`01:22.08`	`break19`	`sylvanaar: hey! glad you're here.. ACP isnt loading for me? did I break something? all I did was update :p`
`01:22.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`JoshBorke: where to get the 2.0 beta? :>`
`01:22.23`	`JoshBorke`	`Gnarfoz: wowinterface`
`01:22.33`	`Gnarfoz`	`hm then I must have overlooked it, thx`
`01:22.49`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`ya i dun see teh beta either`
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`01:22.52`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`oo`
`01:23.01`	`sylvanaar`	`uh`
`01:23.13`	`sylvanaar`	`you broke something maybe`
`01:23.18`	`Gnarfoz`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6818-ItemRack2.0-beta.html`
`01:23.22`	`sylvanaar`	`or the server is mesed up`
`01:23.26`	`JoshBorke`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6818.html`
`01:23.32`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, that one`
`01:23.35`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`itemrack has to many functions which i never used`
`01:23.40`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`the only one i did use was the hotkey`
`01:23.49`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`but i jsut wanna b able to select via drop down menu`
`01:23.52`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`to autoswap`
`01:24.05`	`JoshBorke`	`use closetgnome`
`01:24.14`	`CIA-18`	`03zuno * r29565 10UnitActionBars/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`01:24.14`	`CIA-18`	`UnitActionBars:`
`01:24.14`	`CIA-18`	`- Fixed an issue with not updating action buttons based on unit status values, or updating using default status even when other status values were in effect.`
`01:24.19`	`Gnarfoz`	`which it also can do, but of course trying something else is a valid option, too ;)`
`01:24.25`	`break19`	`sylvanaar: well.. quite possible.. but.. I have ACP folder in my addons folder.. the ACP.toc is there.. yet wow isnt showing it as an addon.`
`01:24.46`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`can closetgnome use the function of trinketmenu?`
`01:24.57`	`CIA-18`	`03zuno * r29566 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:`
`01:24.57`	`CIA-18`	`UnitActionBars:`
`01:24.57`	`CIA-18`	`- TOC Revision update`
`01:25.12`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`like the trinket swapping thing`
`01:25.45`	`vhaarr`	`ClosetGnome automates nothing.`
`01:26.10`	`break19`	`sylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/7666 is the contents of my ACP dir.. and.. wow doesnt even see that it exists.`
`01:26.15`	`vhaarr`	`It is completely idle except when changing sets.`
`01:26.27`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`k thanks`
`01:26.30`	`JoshBorke`	`break19: did you check permissions?`
`01:26.32`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`ill try out the new itemrack`
`01:26.44`	`CIA-18`	`03jjsheets * r29567 10Jigsaw/ (JigsawCore.lua JigsawQueue.lua JigsawRecipe.lua): Jigsaw - Major Enchanting bugfixes, added Item tooltips on mouseover to the items listed in the Jigsaw Tooltip.`
`01:26.47`	`break19`	`JoshBorke: drwxr-xr-x 7 break19 break19 238 Mar 4 10:35 ACP/`
`01:26.56`	`JoshBorke`	`on the files?`
`01:27.00`	`break19`	`same`
`01:27.07`	`break19`	`well, minus the d of course`
`01:27.13`	`Gnarfoz`	`JoshBorke: thanks for pointing out the 2.0 beta, it looks hot. going to have to wait for events, though ;O`
`01:27.23`	`JoshBorke`	`of course :-D`
`01:27.59`	`break19`	`we're about to find out. heh`
`01:28.01`	`Hjalte`	`Kaelten-Laptop: Is KCI2 going to have all the same things as KC_I when done?`
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`01:29.49`	`break19`	`nope. wow dont follow symbolic links, ah well :)`
`01:29.49`	`Medlir`	`They shouldn't. symbolic links are at the file-system level, I wouldn't WoW would even be able to tell.`
`01:29.49`	`Medlir`	`Follow in what way?`
`01:29.49`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`Hjalte: aproximately, I'll have most everything`
`01:30.50`	`break19`	`Medlir: it doesnt see the addon I have installed as a symlink from my user dir`
`01:30.50`	`break19`	`no biggie, I'll just copy it there`
`01:30.51`	`Medlir`	`Ah. Weird.`
`01:30.51`	`Medlir`	`hard link!`
`01:30.52`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`although I might end up going with a slightly different folder architecture`
`01:30.52`	`break19`	`didnt think you could hardlink directories`
`01:30.52`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`where you'll have KCI_SellValues`
`01:30.52`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`KCI_AuctionSpy`
`01:30.52`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`and what not.`
`01:31.20`	`sylvanaar`	`tradeskillinfor needs a function that you can call to get a string with the recipie for an item and its perfect`
`01:32.09`	`break19`	`ok.. osx creates symlinks a little differently than I'm used to.. somehow I'd created a recursive symlink`
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`01:32.48`	`break19`	`you have to give the absolute path to the original, link doesnt "derive" it like my old nix stuff used to do`
`01:33.36`	`break19`	`like, to link KC_Items from my user dir, i could be IN the user dir, and link -s KC_Items /path/to/new/KC_Items and it'd be smart enough that the link would be /userdir/KC_Items.`
`01:33.49`	`break19`	`but... gotta type the full path instead :)`
`01:34.11`	`break19`	`like, link -s /userdir/KC_Items /wowaddons/KC_Items`
`01:34.33`	`break19`	`yep, that works.`
`01:34.45`	`CIA-18`	`03next96 * r29568 10BigWigs/Karazhan/RomuloJulianne.lua:`
`01:34.45`	`CIA-18`	`BigWigs:`
`01:34.45`	`CIA-18`	`- RomuloJulianne`
`01:34.46`	`CIA-18`	`- Update locale koKR`
`01:35.03`	`break19`	`sylvanaar: any ideas what I can check, as to why ACP wont load?`
`01:37.00`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`pastamancer: ping`
`01:38.14`	`break19`	`Kaelten-Laptop: will we be able to remove the itemlevel info from the tooltip? :)`
`01:38.33`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`no NEVA!`
`01:39.33`	`pastamancer`	`ZealotOnAStick: pong`
`01:40.15`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Is there a way to configure grid to have it NOT report a specific debuff and debuff type? Wanting it to not show up a magic debuff indicator for Arcane Blast.`
`01:41.35`	`pastamancer`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Grid/Guide/Decursers`
`01:41.38`	`break19`	`Kaelten-Laptop: still doing the category-by-category scan eh?`
`01:41.54`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ya`
`01:42.45`	`break19`	`might I suggest changing/allowing scanning by rarity? that way, if we, say, dont care about AH prices for greys and/or whites? not have to scan them?`
`01:43.03`	`break19`	`because some fools do like to auction off greys, for some insane reason. heh`
`01:43.27`	`break19`	`and it'd reduce the scan time a little if the greys were simply not scanned.`
`01:45.22`	`break19`	`oh, and I noticed before, that kci2 uses auctionspy and ahwipe and a few other addons, if we get those manually, and dont use the ones embedded in kci2, will it still work? (askin for people that use no-ext versions)`
`01:45.57`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`auctionspy isn't an embed`
`01:46.04`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`but it does embed fence`
`01:47.07`	`break19`	`ok, but the question still stands.. if we have fence as a standalone.. will it crap out, or use the standalone fence?`
`01:47.46`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`pastamancer: thanks.`
`01:48.14`	`pastamancer`	`go update the wiki page with the info from that post that you found useful`
`01:48.29`	`Nayon`	`I wish I could put my hands through this moniter and strangle my code..`
`01:48.36`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I'll try to remember later, sorta in-raid atm.`
`01:50.00`	`break19`	`Kaelten-Laptop: its lookin pretty good.. I think I'll be switching to it now, before it was too feature-lacking compared to kci.9 :)`
`01:50.18`	`break19`	`I just wish the tooltips were in the same window as my other :)`
`01:53.23`	`break19`	`brb, switching to full-screen console irssi`
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`01:54.55`	`break19`	`there, better now`
`01:57.00`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`lol`
`01:57.05`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`glad you like it :)`
`01:58.15`	`break19`	`irc isnt irc, if i dont have a screen full of text on a black screen :)`
`01:59.09`	`JoshBorke`	`basically if you aren't feeling as hackerish as possible?`
`01:59.14`	`JoshBorke`	`well, that's how i am anyway`
`01:59.46`	`JoshBorke`	`Kaelten-Laptop: i can't sync my wowace svn mirror :-( keeps complaining about some font in ClearFont2_FontPack_1 :-(`
`02:00.02`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`um shoot it!`
`02:00.16`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`02:00.22`	`break19`	`or, find a bird to shoot`
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`02:00.51`	`Nayon`	`Kaelten-Laptop: do you have a free minute to tell me why my code is erroring out on a nill value?`
`02:01.02`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`whats the error`
`02:01.05`	`oKirkburn`	`Complaining how?`
`02:01.23`	`oKirkburn`	`I've not touched that pack recently, but I know StormFX did`
`02:02.08`	`JoshBorke`	`svnsync: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/trunk/ClearFont2_FontPack_1/Fonts/Daville/Daville Slanted.ttf'`
`02:02.09`	`JoshBorke`	`svnsync: PROPFIND of '/wowace/trunk/ClearFont2_FontPack_1/Fonts/Daville/Daville Slanted.ttf': 400 Bad Request (http://svn6.wowace.com)`
`02:02.21`	`Nayon`	`Interface Addons CompactComboBar CompactComboBar.lua 793: Attempt to index global 'CompactBorderTick'(a nil value)`
`02:03.07`	`Nayon`	`I basicly pulled the if statments from the bar above the one I am trying to create and when I change names to my own it screams at me,`
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`02:08.33`	`JoshBorke`	`yay for MC :-D`
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`02:31.55`	`sylvanaar`	`break19 i thought your problem was fixed`
`02:34.40`	`break19`	`sylvanaar: nopw`
`02:34.46`	`break19`	`nope rather`
`02:35.21`	`break19`	`was doing two things at once.. ACP doesnt show up in wow's addon list..`
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`02:37.52`	`break19`	`sylvanaar: it worked fine before I updated yesterday.`
`02:40.40`	`sylvanaar`	`Its titled Addon Control Panel`
`02:41.01`	`break19`	`sylvanaar: I know.. its not there`
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`02:41.12`	`break19`	`and /acp just says no command etc`
`02:41.43`	`sylvanaar`	`delete your addons.txt from you wtf folder then`
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`02:42.23`	`break19`	`dont have one of those.`
`02:42.37`	`break19`	`only file in my wtf is config.wtf`
`02:42.44`	`sylvanaar`	`look for your character folder`
`02:43.04`	`break19`	`ah inside the character folder.. why would that affect it before I load the character tho?`
`02:44.06`	`sylvanaar`	`just rename or delete it`
`02:44.31`	`break19`	`done, checking`
`02:45.39`	`break19`	`ok, now its showing in the list.. tnx`
`02:45.45`	`sylvanaar`	`welcome`
`02:52.35`	`sylvanaar`	`it may well be that ACP causes that file to have an erroneous entry for an addon named "", but imo, it shouldn't be able to do that`
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`02:59.20`	`krunk-`	`Is cartographer_objectives broken for anyone else?`
`03:02.57`	`echos`	`Does anyone have a Transcriptor or BigWigs Debug for Prince Malchezzar?`
`03:05.31`	`nymbia`	`echos: i can get one shortly`
`03:05.40`	`echos`	`alright`
`03:06.30`	`echos`	`I was looking at mine and wasn't sure if the first infernal spawned within 20 sec of starting`
`03:06.37`	Funkeh`	`its 40 seconds`
`03:06.54`	`echos`	`that's not what my transcritor logs show`
`03:07.06`	`echos`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:07.06`	`echos`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:07.08`	Funkeh`	`then you must use some special copy of wow`
`03:07.37`	`echos`	`does that come out to 20.6 sec?`
`03:07.43`	Funkeh`	`the timer begins from when you hit it not from when you engage`
`03:08.08`	Funkeh`	`so it could be at 100 by the time you engage`
`03:08.31`	Funkeh`	`but the first infernal is 40 seconds from engaging`
`03:08.38`	Funkeh`	`the yell is 20 seonds`
`03:08.48`	Funkeh`	`seconds*`
`03:09.57`	`echos`	`so then the infernal spawns 20 sec after that?`
`03:10.18`	Funkeh`	`yeah`
`03:10.26`	Funkeh`	`when he yells its 20 seconds`
`03:10.37`	Funkeh`	`theres a 20sec bigwigs bar appears when he yells`
`03:10.45`	`echos`	`alright I thought it happened instantanious`
`03:10.51`	Funkeh`	`nah`
`03:10.58`	`echos`	`But I just heal sop what do I know`
`03:10.58`	Funkeh`	`he yells then you see it flying in the sky`
`03:11.28`	Funkeh`	`hehe`
`03:11.42`	Funkeh`	`now you know :)`
`03:11.49`	`echos`	`><`
`03:13.15`	Funkeh`	`i was being serious i didn't mean that in an offensive way`
`03:13.51`	`echos`	`I know`
`03:14.44`	`echos`	`I'm just trying to add the full duration of when an infernals spawns to BigWigs`
`03:15.50`	Funkeh`	`i don't understand what you mean, its already in bigwigs`
`03:16.09`	`echos`	`But it only updates when he yrlls`
`03:16.24`	Funkeh`	`are there more triggers?`
`03:16.38`	`echos`	`there is a pattern between when he spawned the last infernal and when he will spawn the next one`
`03:16.51`	`nymbia`	`20 seconds is plenty of warning i'd say`
`03:16.53`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`does BigWigs support all instances?`
`03:16.54`	`echos`	`its about 45 sec between spawns`
`03:17.04`	Funkeh`	`it supports all raid instances`
`03:17.11`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`raid being 15+?`
`03:17.21`	Funkeh`	`raid being if you convert to a raid it has it`
`03:17.30`	Funkeh`	`6+`
`03:17.38`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`so basically all instances..`
`03:17.45`	Funkeh`	`5mans are insatnces`
`03:17.49`	Funkeh`	`instances*`
`03:17.53`	`nymbia`	`not 5-mans ;)`
`03:18.02`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`srry iv never raided :S`
`03:18.10`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`but i got to 70 so im jus getting geared in the 5mans`
`03:18.16`	Funkeh`	`alright`
`03:18.26`	Funkeh`	`well not bigwigs doesn't have timers for 5 mans`
`03:18.32`	Funkeh`	`it supports all raid instances`
`03:18.40`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`so no timer for shadow lab`
`03:18.42`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`rite..`
`03:18.43`	Funkeh`	`nop`
`03:18.49`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`okie doke`
`03:18.54`	Funkeh`	`well theres no real need for it`
`03:19.03`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`i spose`
`03:19.07`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`i just got whiped on 2nd boss`
`03:19.16`	Funkeh`	`hehe, hate him`
`03:19.16`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`ownd by a groupie :S`
`03:19.20`	`nymbia`	`i dunno murmur's pretty difficult... >.>`
`03:19.22`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`damn MC`
`03:19.39`	Funkeh`	`i hope you mean on heroic nymbia :p`
`03:19.51`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`lastly how does one do heroics?`
`03:19.54`	`nymbia`	`pft heroic all you need to do is move a tiny bit more`
`03:20.06`	Funkeh`	`get revered with the faction`
`03:20.11`	Funkeh`	`then you can buy the key`
`03:21.41`	Funkeh`	`nymbia you guys pwnd nightbane yet?`
`03:21.59`	`nymbia`	Funkeh`: nope, havent gotten many attempts in this week or last
`03:22.07`	`nymbia`	Funkeh`: been focusing more on gruul
`03:22.07`	Funkeh`	`pfft, slacking!`
`03:22.14`	Funkeh`	`alright`
`03:22.40`	Funkeh`	`well you kill gruul then nightbane this week and you do SC next week so your at the same level as me kk`
`03:22.57`	Funkeh`	`i need someone to talk to`
`03:23.06`	`nymbia`	`:'(`
`03:23.17`	Funkeh`	`:p`
`03:23.35`	Funkeh`	`well gruul hasn't actually died yet, but he will this week`
`03:23.49`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`http://www.gold-secrets.com/warcraftcb.htm?hop=wowexposed`
`03:23.51`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`has ne 1 used that?`
`03:23.54`	Funkeh`	`our gmotd basically consists of, 'make sure you have the quest'`
`03:24.28`	`nymbia`	`lol seriously`
`03:24.57`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`that directed at me?`
`03:25.23`	`Medlir`	`haha... "So You Never Have to Buy Gold Again!"`
`03:25.31`	`Medlir`	`Like you ever have to.`
`03:25.38`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`03:25.39`	Funkeh`	`qft`
`03:26.01`	`echos`	`Also in BigWigs there is no event to update the duration of a bar?`
`03:26.52`	Funkeh`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=78517926&sid=1`
`03:26.54`	Funkeh`	`yey`
`03:27.20`	Funkeh`	`if you mean change the timer of a bar whilst its running, no`
`03:27.30`	Funkeh`	`theres been no need to do that`
`03:28.01`	`Gnarfoz`	`~x de fr blau`
`03:28.09`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`lol but i wanna no his secret`
`03:28.12`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`or if its a bluff`
`03:28.17`	`Gnarfoz`	`~x de fr man`
`03:28.28`	`Gnarfoz`	`~x de fr mann`
`03:28.41`	`Gnarfoz`	`bleh`
`03:29.06`	Funkeh`	`nymbia your on us arent ya?`
`03:29.15`	`nymbia`	Funkeh`: yea
`03:29.21`	Funkeh`	`could you do me a favour?`
`03:29.29`	`nymbia`	`sure`
`03:29.47`	Funkeh`	`make a post in whatever forum about getting serpentshrine cavern named`
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`03:29.57`	Funkeh`	`because atm its tagged as 'coilfang reservoir'`
`03:30.04`	`Sole`	`hai`
`03:30.14`	Funkeh`	`which doesn't help much since the whole place is called that`
`03:30.57`	Funkeh`	`hey sole`
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`03:31.12`	`nymbia`	`hmm.. raid forum makes more sense, but ui forum its more likely to be actually seen and fixed..`
`03:31.26`	Funkeh`	`alright`
`03:31.50`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`We're working on Gruul right now.`
`03:32.05`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`He keeps being really annoying on when the hell he decides to do cooldown stuff.`
`03:32.20`	`nymbia`	`yeah`
`03:32.28`	Funkeh`	`our problem atm is landing next to 5 others and thinking, fuck..`
`03:32.32`	`krunk-`	`bollocks I'm getting tons of ace errors :(`
`03:34.47`	`Sole`	`irc://freenode/wowace`
`03:34.48`	`Sole`	`#wowace`
`03:35.29`	Funkeh`	`Oo`
`03:40.40`	`nymbia`	Funkeh`: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=80500151&postId=802152857&sid=1#0
`03:41.02`	Funkeh`	`haha`
`03:41.07`	Funkeh`	`muchos <3`
`03:41.18`	`nymbia`	`:D`
`03:48.52`	`echos`	`Funkeh I know your not going to like this but here it goes anyways http://ace.pastey.net/7673`
`03:50.40`	`WobWork`	`oKirkburn\|afk: aw, that Virgine page was cute`
`03:51.36`	`oKirkburn\|afk`	`:)`
`03:51.41`	`oKirkburn\|afk`	`Glad you enjoyed it`
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`04:02.01`	`echos`	`Funkeh did you look at the patch?`
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`05:05.38`	`art3mis`	`hey i just thought of a good addon`
`05:05.53`	`art3mis`	`and i think itll work with quixote`
`05:06.08`	`art3mis`	`basiclly it syncs people that are scyer and aldor`
`05:06.16`	`art3mis`	`so you can trade marks and such easier`
`05:06.57`	`art3mis`	`you select what faction you're with and you can select if you're trading and people can look at thier list and see you and what you have to trade`
`05:07.13`	`art3mis`	`updating ONLY when you enter a city`
`05:07.20`	`art3mis`	`or log on.off of course`
`05:11.38`	`krunk-`	`anyone here use roguetimerfu?`
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`06:13.58`	`Medlir`	`OH NOES! http://jazztimes.com/columns_and_features/news/detail.cfm?article=11037`
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`06:29.13`	`neenee`	`Medlir: :\|`
`06:29.26`	`neenee`	`Medlir: At least he reached a respectable age.`
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`06:40.34`	`Kemayo`	`ls`
`06:40.37`	`Kemayo`	`Crap!`
`06:40.43`	`Fisker-`	`this isn't ssh n00b`
`06:41.02`	`Kemayo`	`No, no. This is ssh. It's just ssh followed by screen, followed by an irc client.`
`06:41.03`	`Fisker-`	`or your console if using that`
`06:41.03`	`Fisker-`	`:P`
`06:41.13`	`Fisker-`	`lalalal`
`06:41.19`	`Kemayo`	`I got my screen windows mixed up. :P`
`06:41.19`	`Fisker-`	`can't hear ya`
`06:41.30`	`Fisker-`	`i got Ommra's famous earbuds on`
`06:41.43`	`JJSheets`	`I hate typing ls into Windows Command Prompts... very irritating...`
`06:42.41`	`Fisker-`	`that's alright`
`06:43.08`	`Fisker-`	`1128 SoC crit, 1097 Crusader Strike crit, 1332 SoC Crit and then 1668 Judgement of Command crit`
`06:43.20`	`Fisker-`	`in like 6 seconds :P`
`06:45.22`	`JJSheets`	`Nifty. :)`
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`07:01.22`	`Medlir`	`I use bash in rxvt in Windows via Cygwin, then I can ls without problems. :P`
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`07:05.34`	`OverloadUT`	`I just did my first WC run. It's fun! :P`
`07:06.12`	`Herio`	`it's a fairly short instance mostly based around a quest, right?`
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`07:07.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`short? lol`
`07:09.46`	`Fisker-`	`You didn't answer my question`
`07:10.44`	`OverloadUT`	`Who?`
`07:11.32`	`Fisker-`	`Arrowmaster`
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`08:00.38`	`nee\|work`	`morning`
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`08:01.38`	`Fisker-`	`hello`
`08:04.23`	`sylvanaar`	`"This sounds like a known issue that we currently have though, where if you have more than one bonus which is identical, they do not stack.`
`08:04.37`	`sylvanaar`	`yikes`
`08:04.55`	`sylvanaar`	`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=193689380&postId=1935719577&sid=1`
`08:07.29`	`CIA-18`	`03rophy * r29572 10SimpleUnitFrames/ (SimpleUnitFrames.toc TargetBuffs.lua):`
`08:07.29`	`CIA-18`	`SimpleUnitFrames`
`08:07.29`	`CIA-18`	`- TargetBuffs: fixed extra buff slots weren't hiding properly after switched to to another target.`
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`08:17.33`	`nee\|work`	`sylvanaar: Indeed. Yikes at the droves of people complaining despite assurance.`
`08:17.51`	`nee\|work`	`Sometimes I wonder if people think that the more they complain, the quicker something is fixed.`
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`08:31.29`	`sylvanaar`	`assurance of what`
`08:32.06`	`sylvanaar`	`that response is just saying, its a bug, we know about it, and "would like" to fix it`
`08:33.21`	`evl`	`haha`
`08:33.23`	`evl`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31331`
`08:33.31`	`evl`	`I don't even wanna talk about what it cost me off AH`
`08:34.21`	`sylvanaar`	`proc rate is what 2%`
`08:35.26`	`sylvanaar`	`i want to know who knows anything about macros besides like 5-6 people on the wow forum`
`08:35.30`	`Industrial`	`they are saying you get get it to stack 3/3 all the time`
`08:36.13`	`Industrial`	`and self buff so it stays with targets so damn this is awesome ;p`
`08:36.34`	`Industrial`	`s/with/when changing/`
`08:37.02`	`abyssichate`	`Do you suggest any other addon than Chronometer to keep track of your dots? It pretty much cannot keep track of them if there are more warlocks in the raid casting the same dots as you`
`08:39.33`	`CIA-18`	`03elkano * r29573 10FuBar_FactionsFu/FuBar_FactionsFu.lua:`
`08:39.34`	`CIA-18`	`FuBar_FactionsFu`
`08:39.34`	`CIA-18`	`- touching for 2.2 release`
`08:39.43`	`CIA-18`	`03elkano * r29574 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFu.toc:`
`08:39.43`	`CIA-18`	`FuBar_FriendsFu`
`08:39.44`	`CIA-18`	`- touching for 2.4 release`
`08:39.56`	`CIA-18`	`03elkano * r29575 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFu.toc:`
`08:39.56`	`CIA-18`	`FuBar_GuildFu`
`08:39.56`	`CIA-18`	`- touching for 2.4 release`
`08:39.56`	`wobin`	`Is that a bad touch?`
`08:40.08`	`evl`	`it procs all the time`
`08:40.12`	`wobin`	`NAUGHTY TOUCH =\`
`08:40.16`	`evl`	`you get like 3/3 stacks even in P VP`
`08:40.18`	`evl`	`AND`
`08:40.26`	`wobin`	`Cookies?`
`08:40.28`	`evl`	`it's a self buff so even if you change target you still have the buff`
`08:40.48`	`wobin`	`hey mack! =\`
`08:41.20`	`Elkano`	`wobin, do something useful :/ write a common media lib based on Surfacelib... (fonts, textures, sounds, ...)`
`08:41.25`	`sylvanaar`	`there is a castsequence modifier reset=spell, what does it do`
`08:41.27`	`wobin`	`><`
`08:41.33`	`wobin`	`Too many projects`
`08:41.57`	`sylvanaar`	`resets if another spell is cast i guess`
`08:42.10`	`wobin`	`It resets the sequence`
`08:42.24`	`sylvanaar`	`it a spell thats not in the sequence is cast`
`08:42.27`	`wobin`	`wowwiki's guide is fairly comprehensive`
`08:42.30`	`sylvanaar`	`s/it/if/`
`08:42.36`	`wobin`	`er no`
`08:42.44`	`wobin`	`castsequence takes a whole list of spells`
`08:42.49`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah`
`08:42.53`	`evl`	`sylvanaar: I'd hate to bring this up but l2use wowwiki.com`
`08:43.04`	`evl`	`sylvanaar: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Macro`
`08:43.05`	`sylvanaar`	`i read wowwikki`
`08:43.11`	`sylvanaar`	`i rofled`
`08:44.07`	`evl`	`sylvanaar: isn't it explained here? http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Macro#Target_Cycling`
`08:45.37`	`sylvanaar`	`this? /castsequence reset=spell <spell1>, <spell2>`
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`08:45.55`	`sylvanaar`	`"spell" is literal`
`08:45.57`	`Nargiddley`	`sylvanaar, its reset on sucessful spellcase`
`08:46.02`	`Nargiddley`	`just looked at the lua`
`08:46.20`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, of a spell that is not in the sequence`
`08:47.00`	`Nargiddley`	`yeah`
`08:48.14`	`jjb_`	`good morning`
`08:51.27`	`nee\|work`	`morning`
`08:52.03`	`PHL-Chuck`	`anyone know how to unlock necronomicon2 to move it? dont see anything under duece`
`08:52.16`	`CIA-18`	`03gagorian * r29576 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc):`
`08:52.16`	`CIA-18`	`DrDamage:`
`08:52.16`	`CIA-18`	`-Macro text hides again properly`
`08:52.19`	`oKnows`	`try holding alt or controla nd clicking to drag`
`08:52.24`	`nee\|work`	`sylvanaar: 'It will be corrected in a future patch'. Which is good enough for me.`
`08:52.27`	`CIA-18`	`03fenlis * r29577 10Decursive/localization.kr.lua:`
`08:52.29`	`CIA-18`	`Decursive:`
`08:52.31`	`CIA-18`	`- Updated localization koKR`
`08:52.36`	`PHL-Chuck`	`thanks alt works but moves them seperately heh`
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`08:55.14`	`sylvanaar`	`im just mad, cause theres no way to reset a castsequence by casting a spell on another target without targeting it`
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`08:56.42`	`sylvanaar`	`ie. /castsequence reset=target Lifebloom, Rejuv`
`08:57.41`	`sylvanaar`	`if i cast that on the "mouseover`
`08:58.35`	`sylvanaar`	`it doesnt reset if i click on 2 different unitframes`
`09:00.08`	`mitch0`	`'lo`
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`09:01.03`	`CIA-18`	`03fenlis * r29578 10Prat/modules/ (9 files): Prat: Updated localization koKR`
`09:02.10`	`mitch0`	`what's the difference between FuBar_SkillsPlusFu and FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt ?`
`09:03.49`	`mitch0`	`ah, found it`
`09:04.03`	`CIA-18`	`03fenlis * r29579 10Violation/ (Violation.lua modules/PetDPS.lua): Violation : Updated localization koKR`
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`09:05.49`	`sylvanaar`	`^.^ you need 1 castsequence per unit in order for castsequence to be used like i am trying to`
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`09:16.14`	`CIA-18`	`03elkano * r29580 10FramesResized/FramesResized.lua:`
`09:16.14`	`CIA-18`	`FramesResized`
`09:16.14`	`CIA-18`	`- touching for 2.0 release`
`09:16.15`	`Adirelle\|work`	`hi there`
`09:16.52`	`haste`	`hello`
`09:16.58`	`sylvanaar`	`hi`
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`09:28.28`	`CIA-18`	`03nymbia 07dev * r29581 10Doodle/ (Doodle-enUS.lua Doodle.lua):`
`09:28.28`	`CIA-18`	`Doodle:`
`09:28.28`	`CIA-18`	`- More progress on the tools pane`
`09:29.45`	`SunTiger`	`nymbia, doodle ?`
`09:29.49`	`SunTiger`	`wazzit do ?`
`09:30.02`	`CIA-18`	`03elkano * r29582 10FramesResized/FramesResized.lua:`
`09:30.02`	`CIA-18`	`FramesResized`
`09:30.02`	`CIA-18`	`- maybe we should resizes frames that already loaded, too`
`09:30.02`	`CIA-18`	`- making this 2.0`
`09:30.26`	`nymbia`	`SunTiger: think whiteboard 'cept not terrible`
`09:30.35`	`SunTiger`	`ah`
`09:30.52`	`SunTiger`	`does it use the builtin communication channels ?`
`09:31.00`	`nymbia`	`yeah`
`09:31.08`	`SunTiger`	`so you can guild whiteboard`
`09:31.12`	`SunTiger`	`oooooh the potential`
`09:31.18`	`nymbia`	`;)`
`09:32.16`	`Laricwork`	`nymbia is it ready for usage? :P`
`09:32.25`	`nymbia`	`nope`
`09:32.27`	`nymbia`	`getting there`
`09:32.51`	`Laricwork`	`would really love it for raids to explain tactics :P`
`09:34.00`	`Laricwork`	`suggestion for it if you dont have it already. Ability to check who in the raid have compatible version and who doesnt. (So we can make life hard on ppl who dont have it)`
`09:34.46`	`Elkano`	`"group 1 goes left painting arrow, group 2 goes right painting arrow and group 3 will horribly fail and die again in the middle painting skull"`
`09:35.07`	`nymbia`	`hahaha`
`09:35.50`	`evl`	`the whiteboard in GW works nice :)`
`09:35.56`	`evl`	`Except i only drew penises on it`
`09:37.41`	`ggilbert`	`oddly enough, that's about all our raid used whiteboard for as well..`
`09:38.14`	`nymbia`	`i guess it's as good a time as any to get feedback on the layout.. http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/8337/doodlefy3.jpg`
`09:39.19`	`sylvanaar`	`no, i was wrong i think reset=spell, resets if the spell cast is any spell other than the spell that you are at in the sequence, it can be in the sequence still`
`09:40.26`	`Elkano`	`nymbia, how about layers? so store the info seperated by painter in order to simply 'mute' disturbing players`
`09:41.24`	`Elkano`	`and add a list of players who contributed where those contibuting in the last 15secs or so will be highlighted with the highlight slowly faiding`
`09:42.10`	`nymbia`	`Elkano: the party leader can set drawing rights to only a single person or only raid officers.. but i suppose i could also make a filter to not accept comms from certain players`
`09:42.23`	`nymbia`	`Elkano: the player list would be doable too ;)`
`09:44.57`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`purl, Doodle is A better version of Whiteboard, but without the suck, much more efficient. Think Pictionary for WoW, except without annoying celebrities or drunk neighbors.`
`09:45.01`	`purl`	`ZealotOnAStick: okay`
`09:45.07`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`~doodle`
`09:45.12`	`purl`	`extra, extra, read all about it, doodle is A better version of Whiteboard, but without the suck, much more efficient. Think Pictionary for WoW, except without annoying celebrities or drunk neighbors.`
`09:45.27`	`nymbia`	`lol`
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`09:47.11`	`oKnows`	`awesome description`
`09:47.23`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Jack Emmert said that he learned from Richard Garriott "If you let players affect the environment, the first thing they do is spell the word Fuck. The second thing they do is find a way to grief another player.`
`09:47.40`	`nymbia`	`hahaha`
`09:53.51`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Layers would be kinda nice, actually . . .`
`09:53.52`	`Elkano`	`nymbia, I'd do it via the filter list so you'll always be able to reenable that person and see what he has done since disableing him`
`09:54.11`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Could use the same background for multiple things for example.`
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`09:54.50`	`Fisker-`	`Anyone know if it's possible in Linux to put timestamp on any given output when piping it into a file?`
`09:55.35`	`Elkano`	`don't think so as pipe simply redirects, but I could be wrong...`
`09:55.50`	`Elkano`	`you could try to pipe via a program that adds timestamps`
`09:58.33`	`mitch0`	`you mean timestemp each line?`
`09:58.33`	`Fisker-`	`yup`
`09:58.33`	`oKarn`	`you could write a very simple program that prepends any input with a timestamp, and outputs directly to the file or to stdout (and pipe that to the file)`
`09:58.43`	`mitch0`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:59.12`	`mitch0`	`cat stuff \| while read a; do echo -n $(date); echo ": $a"; done > timeestamped.log`
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`09:59.46`	`mitch0`	`not necessarily the most efficient solution, so don't use it with time-critical stuff on shit hardware :)`
`09:59.52`	`Fisker-`	`you're the best mitch0`
`09:59.56`	`mitch0`	`I nkow`
`09:59.59`	`Fisker-`	`:P`
`09:59.59`	`mitch0`	`s/nk/kn/`
`10:00.06`	`Fisker-`	`Right now i'm just trying to troubleshoot this`
`10:00.13`	`Fisker-`	`so resources ain't a problem :P`
`10:01.36`	`Fisker-`	`Incidently you shouldn't happen to know about problems where linux either shuts down all services or gets physically shut down without any notice in any logfiles? :P`
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`10:06.03`	`mitch0`	`Fisker-: b0rked hardware`
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`10:06.16`	`mitch0`	`cpu overheat?`
`10:06.47`	`mitch0`	`kid playing around cables?`
`10:07.07`	`Fisker-`	`i have no idea :P`
`10:07.21`	`Fisker-`	`The server is hosted by a company so i have no physical access to it unfortunately`
`10:07.38`	`mitch0`	`is it a "virtual" machine? like linode?`
`10:07.46`	`Fisker-`	`nope`
`10:08.10`	`mitch0`	`could be power failure, too`
`10:08.37`	`Fisker-`	`perhaps`
`10:08.46`	`mitch0`	`call tech support`
`10:08.53`	`Fisker-`	`Well sent them an email`
`10:08.55`	`Fisker-`	`But they're german`
`10:08.58`	`Fisker-`	`and a bunch of newbs :P`
`10:09.15`	`Fisker-`	`I just got a reply that my bandwitdh was limited to 10MBps`
`10:09.36`	`Fisker-`	`which is pretty relevant, oh wait`
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`10:13.29`	`Fisker-`	`but it's typical though`
`10:14.02`	`Fisker-`	`when you actually log stuff it has to take a couple of hours compared to those 5-10 minutes it took all the other times`
`10:22.14`	`Silviu-`	`Fisker- hackers ? ;)`
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`10:23.41`	`Elkano`	`berferd?`
`10:23.44`	`nee\|work`	`Hm.. Is there a way to disable font-aliasing in WoW to be able to use bitmap fonts such as silkscreen properly?`
`10:25.46`	`Fisker-`	`not even close Silviu-`
`10:25.51`	`Fisker-`	`although some have tried`
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`10:35.15`	`Elkano`	`haste, seeing you online, would you minf improving SurfaceLib to sth like CommonMediaLib or SharedMediaLib? ;)`
`10:35.38`	`oHaste`	`I don't maintain surfacelib anymore :)`
`10:35.42`	`Elkano`	`meaning providing not only support for shared bar textures but also fonts, sounds and such`
`10:35.44`	`Elkano`	`oh :(`
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`10:37.02`	`oHaste`	`you can update it to support more information rather easily, even without breaking backwards compat`
`10:37.25`	`oHaste`	`or you could just write a new major revision with some API changes`
`10:37.28`	`CIA-18`	`03nymbia 07dev * r29583 10Doodle/ (Doodle-enUS.lua Doodle.lua):`
`10:37.28`	`CIA-18`	`Doodle:`
`10:37.28`	`CIA-18`	`- Settings options table and a couple symbol-related bugfixes.`
`10:37.44`	`oHaste`	`ie. RegisterTextures(name, path) and FetchTexture(name) and so on`
`10:38.26`	`Elkano`	`RegisterMedia(type, name, path)`
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`10:39.38`	`oHaste`	`also possible, I would personally hate to do lib:RegisterMedia("texture", x, y) x10 tho' :p`
`10:40.18`	`Elkano`	`why, it's c&p and the lib could then be used for any kind of media sharing as long as you have a common type`
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`10:45.54`	`oHaste`	`Elkano: It was a personal opinion, it's all up to the person who writes the library`
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`11:00.24`	`nee\|work`	`http://nodwick.humor.gamespy.com/ffn/index.php?date=2006-09-27 :)`
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`11:01.22`	`CIA-18`	`03nymbia 07dev * r29584 10Doodle/ (Doodle-enUS.lua Doodle.lua):`
`11:01.23`	`CIA-18`	`Doodle:`
`11:01.23`	`CIA-18`	`- Finish up options tables, tweak background color setting comms a bit.`
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`11:09.21`	`CIA-18`	`03nymbia 07dev * r29585 10Doodle/ (Doodle-enUS.lua Doodle.lua):`
`11:09.21`	`CIA-18`	`Doodle:`
`11:09.21`	`CIA-18`	`- Add an option to delete saved.`
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`11:11.19`	`Fisker-`	`for crying out loud`
`11:11.25`	`CIA-18`	`03nymbia 07dev * r29586 10Doodle/ (Doodle-enUS.lua Doodle.lua):`
`11:11.25`	`CIA-18`	`Doodle:`
`11:11.25`	`CIA-18`	`- Clarify sync menu.`
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`11:19.56`	`nee\|work`	`We're being doodle-spammed :P`
`11:19.59`	`abyssichate`	`http://static.filefront.com/images/personal/d/DuskAshes/64199/ofoogcsqsm.jpg`
`11:25.44`	`CIA-18`	`03next96 * r29587 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed-koKR.lua AllPlayed.toc):`
`11:25.44`	`CIA-18`	`AllPlayed:`
`11:25.44`	`CIA-18`	`- Add locale koKR`
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`11:38.48`	`Fisker-`	`Anyone got access to a pretty fast server that can try and download something of my server?`
`11:39.15`	`Stephmw`	`over http?`
`11:39.23`	`Fisker-`	`yeah`
`11:39.33`	`Stephmw`	`I'm game - as long as the content is work-safe ;)`
`11:39.33`	`Silviu-`	`Yes me 10 MB/s`
`11:39.50`	`nee\|work`	`http://nodwick.humor.gamespy.com/ffn/index.php?date=2007-02-14`
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`11:40.02`	`Fisker-`	`sek`
`11:40.04`	`Fisker-`	`sec`
`11:40.16`	`Silviu-`	`And download what`
`11:40.23`	`Fisker-`	`http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/cnc3demo.exe`
`11:40.25`	`Silviu-`	`gimme direnkt link for wger ^^`
`11:40.29`	`Fisker-`	`it's 1,17GB`
`11:40.37`	`Stephmw`	`;)`
`11:41.16`	`Fisker-`	`link my go down unexpectedly but that's what i'm hoping for :P`
`11:41.32`	`Stephmw`	`kinda topping out at 1MB/s`
`11:41.35`	`Stephmw`	`not very stable ;)`
`11:41.50`	`Silviu-`	`Length: 1,265,430,528 [application/x-msdos-program]`
`11:41.50`	`Silviu-`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:42.16`	`Silviu-`	`6.40`
`11:42.16`	`Silviu-`	`;)`
`11:42.16`	`Silviu-`	`11% [===> ] 144,994,288 5.83M/s ETA 03:03`
`11:42.20`	`Stephmw`	`nice connection ;)`
`11:42.24`	`Silviu-`	`Thx :)`
`11:42.24`	`Stephmw`	`ETA 20mins here`
`11:42.33`	`Silviu-`	`21% [=======> ] 275,753,240 5.74M/s ETA 02:44`
`11:42.48`	`Fisker-`	`got some issues with the server crashing all of the sudden`
`11:42.55`	`Fisker-`	`Some suggests it might be the NIC`
`11:42.58`	`Stephmw`	`so far, so good`
`11:43.05`	`Fisker-`	`but i've been running it like a bitch for 1½ hour now`
`11:43.24`	`Fisker-`	`and it usually goes down like after 5-20 minutes`
`11:43.33`	`Stephmw`	`I've had issues with gb eth cards running unstable unless I throttled them back to 100MB/s`
`11:43.34`	`Silviu-`	`51% [==================> ] 656,394,456 5.84M/s ETA 01:39`
`11:43.54`	`Stephmw`	`800KB/s .. speed's going down`
`11:44.01`	`Silviu-`	`i steal all the speed`
`11:44.02`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
`11:44.16`	`Stephmw`	`yeah, you must be closed`
`11:44.18`	`Stephmw`	`*closer`
`11:44.23`	`Silviu-`	`cz`
`11:44.36`	`Stephmw`	`.uk`
`11:44.47`	`Silviu-`	`Not closer i guess ;)`
`11:44.52`	`Silviu-`	`88% [=============================> ] 1,118,249,520 5.74M/s ETA 00:24`
`11:44.55`	`Stephmw`	`guess the uk just has crappy interconnects to the rest of .eu... meh`
`11:45.21`	`Silviu-`	`dne`
`11:45.24`	`Silviu-`	`done*`
`11:45.53`	`Silviu-`	`I hate this redhat`
`11:46.04`	`Silviu-`	`Reseted my uptime after 500 days`
`11:46.09`	`Stephmw`	`my speed is still going everywhere from 700kb/s to 1.2mb/s`
`11:46.23`	`Silviu-`	`780 days atm up`
`11:46.23`	`Stephmw`	`1.8mb/s now`
`11:46.24`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
`11:46.24`	`Elkano`	`hmm, I think my university has capped links by now as I'm only getting 700kb/s`
`11:46.38`	`Stephmw`	`2.2mb/s`
`11:46.49`	`Stephmw`	`Silviu-: yeah, it was all your fault :)`
`11:46.56`	`Silviu-`	`Why is that ? ;)`
`11:47.09`	`Silviu-`	`Ah .. cause i steal his resources ?`
`11:47.16`	`Stephmw`	`dunno, some router in the middle must prioritise .cz`
`11:47.29`	`Silviu-`	`I wish i have this connection at home`
`11:47.31`	`Fisker-`	`dude crash it already`
`11:47.34`	`Silviu-`	`Only 120 KB/s`
`11:47.38`	`Stephmw`	`Fisker-: haha`
`11:47.52`	`Stephmw`	`Fisker-: sod's law says... when you're observing it, it won't crash`
`11:48.20`	`Fisker-`	`yeah`
`11:48.45`	`Fisker-`	`kinda like the probabillity waves :P`
`11:49.00`	`Fisker-`	`except mine is just set on "won't crash"`
`11:49.35`	`Fisker-`	`just annoying all the usual logs have no unusual warnings or anything like that :(`
`11:53.53`	`Elkano`	`who was the one in charge for ClearFont2?`
`11:54.35`	`Fisker-`	`kirkburn`
`11:54.53`	`Elkano`	`k`
`11:57.42`	`Laricwork`	`silviu what kernel would a 780 day system have? 2.039? :P`
`11:58.37`	`Elkano`	`780 days? too new for sendmail debug ;)`
`12:01.16`	`CIA-18`	`03nymbia 07dev * r29588 10Doodle/ (Doodle.lua textures/line.tga):`
`12:01.16`	`CIA-18`	`Doodle:`
`12:01.16`	`CIA-18`	`- Tweak line generation, drop the line texture in favor of internal one.`
`12:01.39`	`Silviu-`	`2.4.20`
`12:01.47`	`oKnows`	`sylvanaar, ping`
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`12:02.15`	`Silviu-`	`Laricwork 2.4.20`
`12:02.16`	`Silviu-`	`http://www.2xfun.de/view.php?file=5193#item`
`12:02.18`	`Silviu-`	`Funny :)`
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`12:08.21`	`CIA-18`	`03nymbia 07dev * r29589 10Doodle/Doodle.lua:`
`12:08.21`	`CIA-18`	`Doodle:`
`12:08.21`	`CIA-18`	`- Tweak default line width.`
`12:09.29`	`oKnows`	`anyone know how I can hide combo points in aguf?`
`12:10.21`	`oKarn`	`is it possible to summon someone to arcatraz?`
`12:10.32`	`oKnows`	`afaik, you can't summon netherstorm`
`12:10.50`	`evl`	`oKnows: there's two different displays, just make a theme that has Hidden on those two`
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`12:11.47`	`oKnows`	`evl, so if I want to use abf I gotta stick with the dots?`
`12:12.05`	`evl`	`I use big numbers though`
`12:12.12`	`[dRaCo]`	`oKarn: only using the meeting stone`
`12:12.38`	`oKnows`	`evl, I want numbers, how do I get 'em?`
`12:13.14`	`evl`	`mod the theme you are using atm, i'll paste some code`
`12:13.27`	`ckknight`	`http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/367030`
`12:14.04`	`oKarn`	`[dRaCo], but a lvl 68 without flying mount cant get in then i assume`
`12:14.57`	`[dRaCo]`	`not as far as i know`
`12:15.04`	`oKnows`	`lvl 70 without flying mount`
`12:15.08`	`oKnows`	`lvl 68 druid`
`12:15.14`	`CIA-18`	`03nymbia 07dev * r29590 10Doodle/ (Doodle.lua textures/line.tga):`
`12:15.14`	`CIA-18`	`Doodle:`
`12:15.15`	`CIA-18`	`- Switch back to the internal texture, since colors are good.`
`12:15.24`	`evl`	`oKarn: http://ace.pastey.net/7695`
`12:15.45`	`oKnows`	`cool, I'll try that out`
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`12:16.11`	`evl`	`that puts a big ass number display left off your target frame`
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`12:19.17`	`CIA-18`	`03fleetfoot * r29591 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble.lua:`
`12:19.17`	`CIA-18`	`BigTrouble:`
`12:19.17`	`CIA-18`	`- Autoshot bar bug when out of range. (Adirelle)`
`12:19.18`	`CIA-18`	`- Aimed shot timing. (Adirelle)`
`12:19.20`	`CIA-18`	`- Added delay time that certain shots can invoke on autoshot. (Adirelle)`
`12:21.42`	`oKnows`	`evl, not working for me`
`12:22.20`	`oKnows`	`oh, duh no font!`
`12:24.01`	`oKnows`	`hmm`
`12:24.05`	`oKnows`	`changed font, still no go`
`12:24.30`	`evl`	`sure you added it to the right theme?`
`12:24.41`	`oKnows`	`yep`
`12:25.31`	`oKnows`	`right above auras in the ABF.lua`
`12:25.35`	`oKnows`	`using ABF layout`
`12:25.52`	`evl`	`double checked font path?`
`12:26.02`	`oKnows`	`yep`
`12:26.35`	`evl`	`latest version of agUF? :P`
`12:26.53`	`oKnows`	`r27793`
`12:27.08`	`evl`	`29231`
`12:27.29`	`oKnows`	`k, guess I'll update`
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`12:27.36`	`evl`	`nah, should work`
`12:27.44`	`evl`	`i submitted that patch months ago`
`12:27.44`	`oKnows`	`yea`
`12:28.27`	`evl`	`try my layout then`
`12:28.31`	`evl`	`http://ace.pastey.net/7697`
`12:28.56`	`nee\|work`	`Do you have a screenshot?`
`12:29.03`	`evl`	`Hmms`
`12:29.04`	`evl`	`maybe`
`12:30.01`	`evl`	`it's 99% oUF`
`12:30.08`	`nee\|work`	`:)`
`12:30.18`	`nee\|work`	`I'd still like to see a screenshot :)`
`12:30.23`	`evl`	`http://i5.tinypic.com/43yia6v.jpg`
`12:30.39`	`evl`	`spark thingy is kEnergy`
`12:30.49`	`FryGuy-`	`how do you see the combo points in aguf`
`12:30.57`	`FryGuy-`	`am i just a retard and configured it wrong?`
`12:31.19`	`oKnows`	`retard!`
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`12:31.27`	`nee\|work`	`evl: looks nice and clean :)`
`12:31.27`	`FryGuy-`	`:(`
`12:31.46`	`evl`	`I dunno what's different, it works in my Layout`
`12:31.54`	`evl`	`big ass number between the player and target frame`
`12:32.45`	`CIA-18`	`03nymbia 07dev * r29592 10Doodle/textures/line2.tga: Doodle: Toss a new line texture in, lets see if it works better.`
`12:32.49`	`FryGuy-`	`http://www.burntpopcorn.net/images/wow/WoWScrnShot_022407_180439.jpg`
`12:32.56`	`FryGuy-`	`well that's what my (cluttered) ui looks like`
`12:33.02`	`oKnows`	`woah`
`12:33.03`	`FryGuy-`	`on my mage`
`12:33.11`	`oKnows`	`kenergy gives a spark on the aguf power frame?`
`12:33.35`	`evl`	`no, i just put it over the power bar and made a transparent texture :P`
`12:33.45`	`FryGuy-`	`whatever layout that is, I don't see combo points on mine :p`
`12:33.49`	`CIA-18`	`03next96 * r29593 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed-koKR.lua:`
`12:33.49`	`CIA-18`	`AllPlayed:`
`12:33.49`	`CIA-18`	`- Update locale koKR`
`12:34.03`	`oKnows`	`well well`
`12:34.06`	`oKnows`	`that makes a ton of sense!`
`12:35.03`	`FryGuy-`	`wow i just realized you were asking how to disable combo points`
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`12:35.38`	`oKnows`	`FryGuy-, they're disabled, but now I need the text display`
`12:36.14`	`Health`	`allplayed is /played on alla chars?`
`12:36.16`	`evl`	`oKnows: did you try my layout?`
`12:36.20`	`evl`	`Health: yes.`
`12:36.29`	`oKnows`	`evl, yeah it works on yours`
`12:36.31`	`Health`	`different servers to?`
`12:36.34`	`Health`	`too`
`12:37.03`	`evl`	`oKnows: try and comment out any combo point in the ABF and just make sure you have that first line and the block`
`12:37.32`	`evl`	`maybe it's behind something`
`12:37.39`	`evl`	`try setting the parent to UIParent and CENTER, CENTER.`
`12:37.46`	`CIA-18`	`03fleetfoot 07v4 * r29594 10BigTrouble/: Created folder remotely`
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`12:39.58`	`CIA-18`	`03fleetfoot 07v4 * r29595 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble/:`
`12:39.58`	`CIA-18`	`BigTrouble:`
`12:39.58`	`CIA-18`	`- Branched for v4`
`12:42.20`	`oKnows`	`evl, commented out Combo1 no worky. any ideas how I can test to see if it makes the ComboText frame?`
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`12:43.34`	`evl`	`you stuffed ComboText into the all block right?`
`12:43.43`	`oKnows`	`no, just did`
`12:43.45`	`oKnows`	`laelz`
`12:43.59`	`oKnows`	`I told you first I didn't though`
`12:44.06`	`oKnows`	`so penis slap to you too!`
`12:46.12`	`CIA-18`	`03nymbia 07dev * r29596 10Doodle/textures/ (line.tga line2.tga):`
`12:46.12`	`CIA-18`	`Doodle:`
`12:46.13`	`CIA-18`	`- Nuke second texture, altered first one to hopefully bleed less.`
`12:46.41`	`yacoob`	`Stop!`
`12:46.43`	`oKnows`	`thx though, that's pretty much exactly what I wanted`
`12:46.46`	`yacoob`	`...hammertime.`
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`12:48.32`	`evl`	`oKnows: i know, I'm the all knowing, I know what you want before you ask`
`12:49.12`	`oKnows`	`how can I make it show the combo text manually via script?`
`12:49.25`	`oKnows`	`so I can find the x/y offsets I want`
`12:49.35`	`oKnows`	`like, without having to reload a million times`
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`12:53.41`	`evl`	`sadly no :)`
`12:54.15`	`evl`	`you can try finding the frame using framefinder or something and then playing with it`
`12:54.49`	`oKnows`	`boohoo`
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`12:56.35`	`mitch0`	`or you can attach a frame to it that is always visible? (random reply without reading the whole discussion)`
`12:58.22`	`CIA-18`	`03nymbia 07dev * r29597 10Doodle/ (Doodle.lua textures/line.tga):`
`12:58.22`	`CIA-18`	`Doodle:`
`12:58.22`	`CIA-18`	`- Hopefully the last of the texture tweaking.`
`13:00.06`	`evl`	`tweaking layouts in wow is a PITA sadly :P`
`13:00.09`	`evl`	`unless you can find the frame`
`13:02.20`	`evl`	`oKnows: try doing /print aUF.classes.aUFunitPlayer and go from there`
`13:02.35`	`oKnows`	`aUFtarget_Overlays_ComboText`
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`13:02.39`	`evl`	`:)`
`13:02.53`	`evl`	`howd youi find it`
`13:03.25`	`oKnows`	`I've done a bit of tweaking with these aUF overlays before`
`13:03.48`	`oKnows`	`can't remember what it was, but one print of GetMosueFocus() was enough to remind me the scheme`
`13:03.54`	`evl`	`:)`
`13:04.17`	`oKnows`	`oh, right I was trying to replace those ugly status icons with old school glowing borders like MG2 had`
`13:05.06`	`evl`	`good thing i'm slightly color blind so I can't really use that :D`
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`13:20.41`	`CIA-18`	`03schelli 07Schelli * r29598 10IceHUD/ (8 files): IceHUD : many new modules and other stuff added, loads of new features`
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`13:24.13`	`CIA-18`	`03schelli 07Schelli * r29599 10IceHUD_Hunter/ (17 files in 2 dirs): IceHUD_Hunter : many new modules and other stuff added, loads of new features`
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`13:29.55`	`mitch0`	`anyone got some hands on experience with the frost nova nerf?`
`13:30.35`	`yacoob`	`yeah, when you time jump well, you will avoid it`
`13:30.37`	`yacoob`	`grin`
`13:32.11`	`mitch0`	`doh ;)`
`13:32.34`	`mitch0`	`I'm talking about this one: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=80368625&sid=1`
`13:32.52`	`mitch0`	`I just wonder whether they completely change the "frozen" check or not`
`13:33.26`	`mitch0`	`as of now the check whether a target is frozen is made the time the spell is cast, not the time it lands`
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`13:47.55`	`kovi`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=80430464&sid=1`
`13:48.04`	`kovi`	`there :>`
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`13:53.12`	`sylvanaar`	`oKnows pong`
`13:58.49`	`oKnows`	`lol`
`13:59.22`	`oKnows`	`is there anyway to hide the anchor of the moveable 5sr bar in regenfu?`
`13:59.34`	`sylvanaar`	`yes`
`13:59.57`	`sylvanaar`	`mouse over regenfu for a hint`
`14:00.13`	`oKnows`	`omg`
`14:01.24`	`sylvanaar`	`The hint should tell you...i cant remember something + click`
`14:01.27`	`oKnows`	`yeah`
`14:01.29`	`oKnows`	`it does`
`14:01.31`	`oKnows`	`can't believe I missed it :\`
`14:01.47`	`sylvanaar`	`well theres alot of text there`
`14:02.13`	`oKnows`	`no doubt`
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`14:04.20`	`yacoob`	`"too long, didn't read"`
`14:04.48`	`mitch0`	`kovi: thanks. that's what I thought would happen, but everyone was crying like teh sky was falling...`
`14:05.01`	`oKnows`	`hmm`
`14:05.12`	`oKnows`	`so I need to get rid of the tracking minimap button`
`14:05.14`	`oKnows`	`but I want it on the fubar`
`14:05.35`	`oKnows`	`kinda like TrackerFu, but without all the casting and stuff that doesn't work with 2.0`
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`14:10.37`	`yacoob`	`emo Loz is back!`
`14:10.38`	`yacoob`	`http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?forum=general&msgnum=1389`
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`14:13.06`	`oKnows`	`hmm`
`14:13.10`	`oKnows`	`only 521 posts for kayda?`
`14:13.19`	`oKnows`	`seems like every single post I've ever been to on that forum she's posted in`
`14:23.06`	`CIA-18`	`03sylvin * r29600 10Decursive/lisez-moi.txt:`
`14:23.06`	`CIA-18`	`Decursive:`
`14:23.06`	`CIA-18`	`- Sylvin : Remise en forme globale du fichier lisez-moi.txt`
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`14:23.38`	`oHaste`	`okey`
`14:28.35`	`Health`	`I hope he DIES!`
`14:28.46`	`Health`	`He's fat and ugly! DIDIDIDIEEEEEEDDDDD`
`14:28.52`	`JoshBorke`	`wow, that's um, nice of you`
`14:29.08`	`Health`	`Life is tough.`
`14:30.38`	`Stephmw`	`Health: so why make it harder?`
`14:31.07`	`Health`	`Easier to just drop of the pin!`
`14:32.23`	`neenee`	`Cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny...`
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`14:32.39`	`Health`	`good one`
`14:33.20`	`neenee`	`I couldn't fix your brakes, so I made your horn LOUDER!`
`14:34.31`	`oHaste`	`clams have feeelings too!`
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`14:40.18`	`wobin`	`I'd forgotten how much fun it was to group with an aoegrinding mage as a healer`
`14:40.41`	`CIA-18`	`03sylvanaar * r29601 10FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_Regen.lua: FuBar_RegenFu: Changed the FSR entry logic around slightly to prevent mana gains following a spellcast from clearing the fsr duration timer internally.`
`14:41.04`	`wobin`	`got myself halfway through honoured, and a 1/3 of the way through the level`
`14:41.21`	`wobin`	`and that's on killing alone, not counting bead handins =)`
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`14:48.44`	`JoshBorke`	`wobin: isn't it the best?`
`14:49.34`	`sylvanaar`	`im wondering if you couldnt duo a warlock and paladin for a similar effect`
`14:51.53`	`[Ammo]`	`no yu can't`
`14:51.55`	`sylvanaar`	`i dont want to level a mage`
`14:52.02`	`[Ammo]`	`well maybe you could with seed of corruption`
`14:52.10`	`[Ammo]`	`but that's a 70 spell`
`14:52.16`	`sylvanaar`	`well hellfire is uninterruptable`
`14:52.20`	`wobin`	`SoC is sick =)`
`14:52.21`	`[Ammo]`	`it's not`
`14:52.23`	`wobin`	`evil and sick`
`14:52.29`	`[Ammo]`	`it channeled -> easily interupted`
`14:52.33`	`wobin`	`it's interruptable`
`14:52.46`	`sylvanaar`	`talent + conc aura`
`14:52.52`	`wobin`	`true`
`14:52.59`	`wobin`	`we use a pally on the panther boss`
`14:53.07`	`wobin`	`and a everburning lock`
`14:53.08`	`sylvanaar`	`thats why i was sayin paladin`
`14:53.31`	`[Ammo]`	`seed is imba`
`14:53.32`	`wobin`	`I'm not sure, a mage has quite a few more aoe attacks`
`14:53.38`	`wobin`	`but yes, seed is imba`
`14:53.39`	`[Ammo]`	`mage is way better for aoe grind`
`14:53.47`	`wobin`	`and a couple of omgrunaway tactics`
`14:54.19`	`Fisker-`	`man`
`14:54.26`	`Fisker-`	`my server's been running for 5 hours now`
`14:54.32`	`wobin`	`time for a reboot =)`
`14:54.32`	`Fisker-`	`and it usually crashed each 5 minutes`
`14:54.34`	`Fisker-`	`fuck you murphy`
`14:54.38`	`Fisker-`	`i hate your law`
`14:56.22`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, i guess ill just have to see if its practical or not by doing it would the paladin be able to heal through and not go oom who knows`
`14:56.52`	`Fisker-`	`my paladin is cruise control for awesome`
`14:56.54`	`[Ammo]`	`paladins have the most mana efficient healing`
`14:56.54`	`Fisker-`	`imo`
`14:57.09`	`[Ammo]`	`so it should be able to last quite a while if you spec holy`
`14:58.15`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, i used to do the hellfire thing with my druid and my lock, that worked fine but the interrupts made me run out of mana recasting`
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`14:58.49`	`Health`	`Seed of Corruption.`
`14:58.56`	`sylvanaar`	`level 60`
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`15:00.25`	`Fisker-`	`remember sylvanaar!`
`15:00.36`	`wobin`	`theres mana efficiency, and there's burst healing`
`15:00.40`	`wobin`	`which is sometimes required`
`15:00.45`	`Fisker-`	`Concentration aura stacks multiplative`
`15:00.49`	`Fisker-`	`or however it's called`
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`15:11.20`	`JoshBorke`	`multiplicatively`
`15:11.49`	`JoshBorke`	`and warlock + paladin wouldn't do as well as a mage + healer, ever. maybe if the lock dotted the mobs before teh hellfile`
`15:12.05`	`mitch0`	`hm. would it be possible for FuBar_SkillsPlus to display an icon for all profession, not just the "active" one?`
`15:12.07`	`Laricwork`	`Fisker- so if 2 pallys in a group use concentration aura it stacks?`
`15:12.27`	`mitch0`	`or is it a FuBar limitation to have only one icon and one text?`
`15:12.35`	`JoshBorke`	`Laricwork: no`
`15:12.38`	`Health`	`JoshBorke: You ever head of seed of corruption?`
`15:13.19`	`deltron`	`Health: that is so awesome`
`15:14.36`	`winkiller`	`hmm, sometimes cartographer seems to forget "only with professioN" - my herbalist now has loads of question marks from mines`
`15:14.46`	`JoshBorke`	`Health: yes, but that's lvl 70 :-P at which point you're farming :-P , and then i'd say it's about even. assuming you can get enough seeds off`
`15:14.48`	`winkiller`	`after last update, any ideas?`
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`15:15.36`	`JoshBorke`	`btw, for fun times, duel inside gadgetzan and get a lock to cast seed of corruption on you`
`15:15.44`	`JoshBorke`	`watch the hordelings go boom`
`15:18.07`	`Fisker-`	`well as JoshBorke say it doesn't Laricwork :P`
`15:18.27`	`Fisker-`	`But if you got anti-spell interrupt talents or spells yourself they won't stack like 10+35%`
`15:18.35`	`Fisker-`	`they'll stack like 35*0,10`
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`15:18.46`	`Fisker-`	`or 0,35*0,10`
`15:18.50`	`Fisker-`	`or however it's done :P`
`15:18.59`	`Health`	`You're a real talent with maths!`
`15:19.09`	`Fisker-`	`oh yeah`
`15:19.22`	`Fisker-`	`i'm the greetest`
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`15:36.18`	`CIA-18`	`03xuerian 07XLoot1.0 * r29602 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Minor string concatenation conversions - Committing my latest changes before what will be a longer absence. (See xloot topic)`
`15:37.04`	`Fisker-`	`why in branches Xuerian? :o`
`15:37.27`	`Xuerian`	`Fisker-: 1.0 is a core rewrite, that's why it's still in branches. It works, but has a quirk here and there`
`15:37.43`	`Fisker-`	`oh`
`15:37.56`	`Xuerian`	`Well, except for the options. Which don't work :p`
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`15:38.25`	`sbu`	`absence as in 2-3 days? :o`
`15:39.08`	`Xuerian`	`Absence as in I canceled my account (Runs out tomorrow) for RL reasons that might end up keeping me away for longer`
`15:39.28`	`sbu`	`oh..`
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`15:40.31`	`Fisker-`	`fare well Xuerian!`
`15:40.42`	`Fisker-`	`(from the world of tomorrow)`
`15:41.41`	`Xuerian`	`Mhm =P. Cya Fisker.`
`15:45.37`	`neenee`	`oh.`
`15:45.41`	`neenee`	`Take care Xueran`
`15:51.53`	`Industrial`	`Question:`
`15:51.56`	`Industrial`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/KC_Items/Ace2/KC_Items/`
`15:51.59`	`Industrial`	`thats the right one?`
`15:52.29`	`[Ammo]`	`Industrial: yes`
`15:52.32`	`[Ammo]`	`I believe so`
`15:52.39`	`Industrial`	`k`
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`15:55.30`	`neenee`	`Our hull has been breached! Seal off decks 3 and 4!`
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`16:12.19`	`trh`	`hidiho`
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`16:16.31`	`neenee`	`hello`
`16:18.26`	`JJSheets`	`So what's that mod that has the auto-gm-report feature?`
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`16:20.03`	`mitch0`	`auto-gm-report whenever you crit too low? :)`
`16:20.20`	`JJSheets`	`lol no... idiotic names on an RP server.`
`16:20.56`	`shieldb`	`JJSheets, idiotic as in 'extended ascii chart on an en-us realm' or something else?`
`16:21.14`	`JJSheets`	`idiotic as in "Imlittle"`
`16:21.26`	`JJSheets`	`On a friggin gnome no less.`
`16:21.30`	`Tornhoof`	`JJSh��ts ;)`
`16:21.47`	`JJSheets`	`as if the fact that his head weighs more than his body isn't obvious.`
`16:21.49`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`16:22.02`	`art3mis`	`I CANT STAND THE PEOPLE THAT PUT CLASS OR PROFESSIONS IN THIER NAMES`
`16:22.10`	`art3mis`	`and i hate it more when my capslock is on`
`16:22.17`	`winkiller`	`Darkrouge wins all`
`16:22.26`	`shieldb`	`art3mis, but... capslock is cruise control for cool!`
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`16:22.31`	`art3mis`	`darkpriest the mage`
`16:22.32`	`mitch0`	`Legolos`
`16:22.34`	`mitch0`	`Legalos`
`16:22.39`	`JJSheets`	`Ordinarily I wouldn't pick this nit, but he was raiding crossroads at level 64... what a waste of time.`
`16:22.40`	`mitch0`	`Llegoas`
`16:22.46`	`neenee`	`Leggolas`
`16:22.46`	`tripood`
`16:22.46`	`tripood`	`there would not be a addon which would do that: �MutilateCrit� for the French version of world of warcraft?`
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`16:22.52`	`art3mis`	`xxNighthawkxx`
`16:23.11`	`tripood`	`http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/5327/mutilatecrit/ it's not for my client version...`
`16:23.12`	`art3mis`	`PieceOCrap`
`16:23.32`	`mitch0`	`ar3mis: even better are the ones who put class AND nationality in their name (and nothing else, actually)`
`16:23.48`	`mitch0`	`hunpaladin, hunmage, hun*`
`16:23.50`	`art3mis`	`the best name was a hunter named Lazy and his pet named ImWithStupid`
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`16:24.01`	`JJSheets`	`I can't remember the exact names but there were two exhibitionist characters named something like rimjob, and pinktaco on this RP server... that's a nit I'll pick any day.`
`16:24.01`	`Deviad`	`Hello`
`16:24.07`	`Deviad`	`Can anyone tell me why cartographer doesn't work here?`
`16:24.15`	`art3mis`	`because it's irc?`
`16:24.18`	`mitch0`	`:)`
`16:24.21`	`winkiller`	`lol`
`16:24.22`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`16:24.41`	`art3mis`	`like none of you werent thinking that ;)`
`16:25.00`	`Barbanus`	`lol`
`16:25.06`	`Barbanus`	`m`
`16:25.11`	`Barbanus`	`my maps broken!`
`16:25.11`	`tripood`	`:'(`
`16:25.17`	`art3mis`	`oh gnoes!`
`16:25.17`	`mitch0`	`5 mins to go...`
`16:25.37`	`winkiller`	`I just got broken mining nodes, no big deal`
`16:25.42`	`Barbanus`	`Deviad, little more info needed :)`
`16:25.48`	`art3mis`	`tripood: so change the locales yerelf and poof it's fixed ;P`
`16:26.19`	`Deviad`	`Barbanus, what is the key combination to run cartopgrapher?`
`16:26.27`	`Deviad`	`I can't find it in the "keybindings" menu`
`16:26.33`	`Barbanus`	`hit M`
`16:26.34`	`mitch0`	`alt-esc on my config`
`16:26.37`	`shieldb`	`Deviad, should just be M to bring up the map like normal once it's running`
`16:26.39`	`shieldb`	`it replaces the normal map`
`16:26.54`	`Barbanus`	`then there is a button at the top to config it`
`16:27.37`	`mitch0`	`Server shutdown in 3 minutes`
`16:27.56`	`Barbanus`	`oh noes`
`16:27.58`	`Barbanus`	`blizz took over irc`
`16:28.18`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`16:28.33`	`mitch0`	`btw, wtf is this forum maintenance on Monday?`
`16:28.42`	`Barbanus`	`JJSheets, do you think I need coffee?`
`16:28.45`	`Barbanus`	`I think I do`
`16:28.58`	`Barbanus`	`too much blood in my caffiene stream`
`16:29.00`	`Rayden`	`you guys know if there is anyways i can find info on "avg" dps of dps classes? a comparison of rogues, mages, hunters, etc`
`16:29.20`	`Barbanus`	`swstats will show you DPS`
`16:29.46`	`JJSheets`	`How much coffee? cause if we're talkin just a cup or two of plain coffee... no... if we're talkin eighteen cups of overcaffeinated capuccino, then yeah... go for it.`
`16:29.49`	`Barbanus`	`but if you are looking for like some online comparison ... it doesnt really exist .. because lots of people suck at their clases`
`16:30.07`	`Barbanus`	`I'm talkin .. 2 pots of coffee :P`
`16:30.08`	`mitch0`	`the wow forums are full of them comparisons. most are highly biased and based on heavy dose of arcane guesses`
`16:30.13`	`JJSheets`	`meh.`
`16:30.18`	`art3mis`	`jj is jigsaw or violation yers`
`16:30.44`	`JJSheets`	`Jigsaw is mine, Violation is mostly vhaarr. Though I have done work on Vio.`
`16:30.54`	`art3mis`	`k heh couldnt remember 2who wrote which`
`16:31.00`	`art3mis`	`whats the purpose of jigsaw`
`16:31.13`	`art3mis`	`i was playing with it and cant for the life of me figure out the reason you made it ;P`
`16:31.26`	`JJSheets`	`Jigsaw is a materials tracker mostly.`
`16:31.54`	`JJSheets`	`You tell it you want to make eighteen silk bandages and it tells you how many silk cloths you need, etc.`
`16:32.08`	`art3mis`	`ahhh`
`16:32.12`	`JJSheets`	`it also crafts all items needed in order, so Engineers get it easy.`
`16:32.15`	`Rayden`	`Barbanus i use swstats, but i'm looking for more general end game. so i can compare my shadow priests dps and see how good i am`
`16:32.25`	`art3mis`	`okay that makes more sense, my inital mucking made it seem like it would go buy crap for me`
`16:32.31`	`art3mis`	`and that made me a tad nervous`
`16:32.33`	`JJSheets`	`it'll do that too.`
`16:32.42`	`JJSheets`	`but you can turn that off`
`16:32.48`	`JJSheets`	`should default to off iirc`
`16:33.09`	`JJSheets`	`you can also put limits on how much it'll auto-spend.`
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`16:33.15`	`art3mis`	`so say i wanted to level to 365 in tailoring i'd tell it i wanna make 15 imbued bags and it would tell me all the mats needed for all 15?`
`16:33.33`	`art3mis`	`that type of thingy?`
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`16:33.43`	`JJSheets`	`yes. and when you have the mats you can just clikc on the jigsaw icon and it'll go through each step to make it for you.`
`16:33.54`	`art3mis`	`oh okay thats kinna neat then`
`16:33.56`	`art3mis`	`thanks`
`16:33.59`	`JJSheets`	`yup`
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`16:37.55`	`Ironhand`	`I just downloaded & installed FuBar_LocationFu, and it reports: [...]\LocationFu.lua:2: Cannot find a library instance of Tourist-2.0. This library seems to indeed be missing from the .zip I downloaded, while my previous version did have it included.`
`16:38.37`	`Barbanus`	`Rayden you can try http://www.shadowpriest.com/`
`16:40.45`	`CIA-18`	`03trh * r29603 10VanasKoS/todo.txt: VanasKoS: todo list added`
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`16:52.07`	`CIA-18`	`03trh * r29604 10VanasKoS/todo.txt: VanasKoS: forgot some stuff`
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`17:10.24`	Funkeh`	`hey all`
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`17:12.12`	`Ironhand`	`I'm using TipBuddy and I notice that the guild name for a player is normally only shown on the 2nd mouseover, never on the 1st... I remember similar behaviour from TipBuddy when I was still using it. Is this a technical limitation of some sort or could it be improved?`
`17:13.05`	`deltron`	`i'm sure it hasn't looked up the guild info just yet to save on system resources`
`17:13.25`	`deltron`	`otherwise it'd be caching everybody's guild name`
`17:14.13`	`Ironhand`	`it's not possible to look up the guild info immediately on mouseover?`
`17:16.31`	`deltron`	`it'd have to refresh the tooltip I guess`
`17:16.31`	`deltron`	`I'm not sure`
`17:17.08`	Funkeh`	`indeed`
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`17:18.14`	`trh`	`deltron: doesn't the client cache the guild name anyway?`
`17:18.42`	`trh`	`afaik the guild name is instantly there on mouseover`
`17:18.55`	`CIA-18`	`03funkydude * r29605 10BigWigs/Outland/Gruul.lua:`
`17:18.55`	`CIA-18`	`BigWigs: Outland/Gruul:`
`17:18.55`	`CIA-18`	`- update koKR`
`17:19.59`	`CIA-18`	`03funkydude * r29606 10BigWigs/Outland/Kazzak.lua:`
`17:19.59`	`CIA-18`	`BigWigs: Outland/Kazzak:`
`17:19.59`	`CIA-18`	`- update frFR`
`17:20.19`	`Ironhand`	`it would need to be there anyway for people who have guild names showing above peoples' heads`
`17:20.27`	`deltron`	`i dunno, i just do it twice`
`17:20.32`	`deltron`	`it doesn't bother me`
`17:20.59`	`CIA-18`	`03funkydude * r29607 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua:`
`17:20.59`	`CIA-18`	`BigWigs: Outland/Magtheridon:`
`17:20.59`	`CIA-18`	`- small changes, transcripts plix`
`17:21.07`	`Ironhand`	`doesn't bother me much, but I have perfectionist tendencies here and there`
`17:21.31`	Funkeh`	`me too`
`17:21.40`	Funkeh`	`after 2 months i decided i didn't care anymore`
`17:21.49`	`Ironhand`	`actually I think I remember from when I was using TipBuddy that this only became an issue with WoW 2.0, not before`
`17:21.49`	Funkeh`	`i blame vhaarr`
`17:22.00`	`vhaarr`	`sup`
`17:22.20`	`Tekkub`	`OMG! ACE@`
`17:22.22`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.winbeta.org/comments.php?shownews=6355`
`17:22.22`	Funkeh`	`nvm :p`
`17:22.25`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`17:22.25`	`Tekkub`	`*ACE2`
`17:23.03`	`trh`	`Tekkub: lol.. just a matter of time until kaelten gets sued ;)`
`17:23.03`	`vhaarr`	`Sue them imo.`
`17:23.08`	Funkeh`	`sue them`
`17:23.18`	Funkeh`	`sue sue sue!`
`17:24.09`	`JJSheets`	`yep... we'll probably get renamed to Deuce. bah.`
`17:24.20`	Funkeh`	`'As a priest, I can say that anyone with an auto-/healme emote will most assuredly never get any heals from me.'`
`17:24.24`	Funkeh`	`qft...`
`17:24.31`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`17:24.56`	Funkeh`	`'Why do you want priests to hate you?' lol`
`17:25.06`	`pastamancer`	`:)`
`17:25.10`	`pastamancer`	`that's a good thread`
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`17:27.55`	`sylvanaar`	qft Funkeh`
`17:29.51`	`kenlyric\|work`	`amen!`
`17:30.25`	`deltron`	`too bad ACE isn't that great compared to vmware workstation`
`17:30.58`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I have an emote I fire off at times like that says "Kenlyric needs you to stop taking so much damage.`
`17:30.59`	`kenlyric\|work`	`oooooh`
`17:31.30`	`art3mis`	`wheee up to 708 +spell now`
`17:31.47`	`sylvanaar`	`what class`
`17:31.55`	`art3mis`	`there are other classes than priest?`
`17:32.04`	`art3mis`	`;)`
`17:32.06`	`sylvanaar`	`how much spi/int?`
`17:32.08`	`NeoTron`	`all buffed last night (with an elixer of shadow power and wizard oil and a shaman totem) I had like 1250 or so`
`17:32.16`	`NeoTron`	`insane`
`17:32.50`	`CIA-18`	`03ammo * r29608 10oRA2/Options.lua: oRA2: deDE update`
`17:33.42`	`sylvanaar`	`thats crazy damage - i only have like 1k +heal on my druid, my priest only have like 300+spell`
`17:34.03`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I'm up to 580 spirit on my priest. I wish I could be brave and break socket colors to get more spirit...`
`17:34.19`	`kenlyric\|work`	`but I'm not that brave. Feels wrong somehow.`
`17:34.24`	`art3mis`	`umm not sure off hand i think around 340 int and 280 spirit`
`17:34.25`	`sylvanaar`	`how much int`
`17:34.29`	`art3mis`	`give or take`
`17:34.53`	`sylvanaar`	`for shadow priest 280 is good`
`17:35.04`	`pastamancer`	`art3mis: how much unbuffed +shadow?`
`17:35.05`	`sylvanaar`	`comparatively`
`17:35.06`	`art3mis`	`that 708 is only with IDS`
`17:35.25`	`art3mis`	`about 660 or so`
`17:35.45`	`art3mis`	`708 spell 668 healing in dps gear`
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`17:35.57`	`art3mis`	`in healinggear im just over 1k`
`17:36.05`	`art3mis`	`with a rockiong 200spell ;)`
`17:37.12`	`sylvanaar`	`im a tree`
`17:37.22`	`art3mis`	`i lurv druidtrees ;P`
`17:37.44`	`CIA-18`	`03ammo * r29609 10oRA2/Participant/ (8 files): oRA2: deDE update`
`17:37.54`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I really miss our tree in karazhan when she's not there.`
`17:38.08`	`sylvanaar`	`with my spirit gear and trinket + innervate i am a tree of mana`
`17:38.12`	`kenlyric\|work`	`an extra 1000 healing per gheal is pretty nice`
`17:38.22`	`pastamancer`	`the only druid I've run kara with is feral :(`
`17:38.30`	`kenlyric\|work`	`what the hell can they do?`
`17:38.34`	`nevcairiel`	`extra 1000? thats a bit exagerrated isnt it? :D`
`17:38.36`	`pastamancer`	`tank maiden`
`17:38.38`	`kenlyric\|work`	`innervate and battle rez, I guess.`
`17:38.52`	`kenlyric\|work`	`nevcairiel: it's a 25% boost to healing on the target, isn't it?`
`17:38.52`	`NeoTron`	`sylvanaar: lots of bonuses`
`17:39.01`	`pastamancer`	`warrior MT, feral OT`
`17:39.03`	`NeoTron`	`demonology specced too, which adds a bunch`
`17:39.07`	`nevcairiel`	`kenlyric\|work: its 25% bonus of the trees spirit.`
`17:39.07`	`art3mis`	`oh i was off on spirit its only 197`
`17:39.11`	`sylvanaar`	`25% of the druids spirit`
`17:39.15`	`nevcairiel`	`so 400 spirit, 100 extra heal.`
`17:39.16`	`art3mis`	`im 668/648 unbuffed`
`17:39.22`	`pastamancer`	`and feral tanks maiden because he has more hp to survive repentance`
`17:39.23`	`kenlyric\|work`	`fuckaduck.`
`17:39.30`	`kenlyric\|work`	`maybe I don't miss it that much, then.`
`17:39.34`	`sylvanaar`	`so 100ish +heal`
`17:39.48`	`NeoTron`	`Share of Aran.. is ouch`
`17:40.02`	`nevcairiel`	`aran is pretty easy, once you figured the tactics out`
`17:40.03`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, arcane missles in the face`
`17:40.14`	`kenlyric\|work`	`we're on curator now.`
`17:40.17`	`sylvanaar`	`i died 9 times`
`17:40.22`	`sylvanaar`	`blew everyone up`
`17:40.26`	`art3mis`	`err 684/644 unbuffed and with ids its 706/668`
`17:40.30`	`NeoTron`	`nevcairiel: 36% first time there`
`17:40.33`	`NeoTron`	`so not entirely bad`
`17:40.45`	`NeoTron`	`some ppl in the raid were lacking some HP`
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`17:40.56`	`kenlyric\|work`	`we either have adds that rape healers, or the boss rapes me.`
`17:40.57`	`art3mis`	`521 stam though ;)`
`17:40.59`	`NeoTron`	`and we hadn't gotten sheeped/nuked yet`
`17:41.00`	`kergoth`	`KingOfTheJungle doesn't realize my hunter's cat can eat strider meat. wonder why`
`17:41.07`	`kenlyric\|work`	`having the OT rogue with blessing of salvation up didn't help very much :)`
`17:41.13`	`cncfanatics`	`hello everyone ! :)`
`17:41.27`	`NeoTron`	`curator was fun >:-)`
`17:41.32`	`NeoTron`	`I was the "add puller"`
`17:41.39`	`NeoTron`	`searing pain taunt`
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`17:41.47`	`kenlyric\|work`	`one attempt they couldn't actually pull the add off of me`
`17:41.49`	`NeoTron`	`didn't work great but should work better with my current spec`
`17:41.49`	`CIA-18`	`03ammo * r29610 10oRA2/Leader/ (7 files): oRA2: deDe update`
`17:42.03`	`sylvanaar`	`in the end i stood in the middle cause i couldnt get out of the blizzards`
`17:42.06`	`NeoTron`	`now with a shadow priest, it should be a lot easier`
`17:42.16`	`kenlyric\|work`	`yeah, we were thinking that too.`
`17:42.26`	`art3mis`	`that ve no-crit is gonna be irritating`
`17:42.28`	`NeoTron`	`sylvanaar: one thing we discovered is that standing closer to the center is overall better`
`17:42.34`	`kenlyric\|work`	`full shadow priest during evocation = sexy`
`17:42.41`	`NeoTron`	`we have a shadow priest now`
`17:42.44`	`sylvanaar`	`no blizzard in the center`
`17:43.25`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I don't see how you get through the undead part of karazhan without a shadow priest.`
`17:43.25`	`NeoTron`	`with his debuff and mine (from shadow bolts) and stuff I'll now crit for close to 7k`
`17:43.25`	`NeoTron`	`I'm afraid`
`17:43.25`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it's just a lot of work without two shackles`
`17:43.25`	`NeoTron`	`well`
`17:43.25`	`kenlyric\|work`	`especially moroes`
`17:43.26`	`NeoTron`	`we had 2 holy priests :)`
`17:43.26`	`nevcairiel`	`take two holy priests?`
`17:43.26`	`nevcairiel`	`i dont see your point for shadow .P`
`17:43.26`	`NeoTron`	`one converted now as our shaman went resto`
`17:43.28`	`kenlyric\|work`	`i guess, but then you're doubling up and losing a buff.`
`17:43.36`	`art3mis`	`shadow is good for filler healing with VE and mana boosting with VT`
`17:43.37`	`NeoTron`	`shadow priests are sick`
`17:43.41`	`kenlyric\|work`	`unless you take four healers.`
`17:43.43`	`NeoTron`	`and my best friend and worst enemy`
`17:44.02`	`NeoTron`	`or hav a pally tank, pally dps, feral druid etc`
`17:44.09`	`art3mis`	`2k mb's and ve crit heals for 1k are funny ;P`
`17:44.11`	`NeoTron`	`we tend to bring 3 healers and one hybrid`
`17:44.22`	`kenlyric\|work`	`we do too.`
`17:44.26`	`NeoTron`	`art3mis: heh yeah. too bad they are removing crit heals from VE`
`17:44.28`	`pastamancer`	`my kara group has 2 holy priests, a shadow priest, and a resto shaman`
`17:44.31`	`kenlyric\|work`	`priest, druid, pally, shadow priest :)`
`17:44.42`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, any paladins here ?`
`17:44.57`	`kenlyric\|work`	`we did it one night with 3 pallies... maiden of virtue was a cakewalk.`
`17:44.58`	`NeoTron`	`shadow priest + paladin => nice`
`17:45.07`	`CIA-18`	`03ammo * r29611 10oRA2/Optional/ (7 files): oRA2: deDE update`
`17:45.08`	`NeoTron`	`VE heals restore mana for the pally`
`17:45.15`	`kenlyric\|work`	`having three healers up during repentance makes it no kind of work at all.`
`17:45.16`	`NeoTron`	`kenlyric\|work: lol. yeah no kidding`
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`17:45.28`	`nevcairiel`	`we have about 3 healers, sometimes 4, doesnt really matter :)`
`17:45.29`	`abyssichate`	`Do you suggest any other addon than Chronometer to keep track of your dots? It pretty much cannot keep track of them if there are more warlocks in the raid casting the same dots as you`
`17:45.48`	`sylvanaar`	`we have way more healers than spots for them`
`17:45.55`	`kenlyric\|work`	`but, if I have to choose, I'd rather not have more than one priest as healer... because they don't add anything in the way of buffs.`
`17:46.16`	`nevcairiel`	`karazhan is not _that_ hard`
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`17:46.52`	`kenlyric\|work`	`by some definition of hard.`
`17:46.55`	`NeoTron`	`nevcairiel: everything is hard until you've learned it`
`17:47.00`	`sylvanaar`	`what is your progression`
`17:47.10`	`nevcairiel`	`weve killed everything`
`17:47.17`	`nevcairiel`	`except one of the random rare bosses`
`17:47.21`	`nevcairiel`	`which didnt spawn yet :P`
`17:47.31`	`NeoTron`	`how long have you been in theer? (and what was your pre-BC progression)`
`17:47.50`	`nevcairiel`	`4 or 5 weeks iirc`
`17:48.00`	`nevcairiel`	`pre-BC, we wiped on 4H`
`17:48.02`	`cncfanatics`	`any paladins around ? :p I'm a noob pala that just rerolled and need some tips :p`
`17:48.28`	`NeoTron`	`my guild experienced a split after BC which left it somewhat crippled`
`17:48.39`	`nevcairiel`	`too many guilds experienced that :(`
`17:48.42`	`NeoTron`	`pre-BC was like 5 down in Naxx`
`17:49.09`	`NeoTron`	`now how long have we been in Karazhan. hmm`
`17:49.33`	`nevcairiel`	`we killed nightbane 2 weeks ago, which was our last boss in there.`
`17:49.41`	`nevcairiel`	`but still, we didnt manage gruul yet .. stupid gron!`
`17:49.45`	`NeoTron`	`2 weeks? maybe 3`
`17:49.46`	`pastamancer`	`coming from a group that killed Ragnaros and Ony pre-TBC, karazhan is a big jump in the amount of coordination required, but we're doing pretty good. Cleared up to Curator in 3 nights.`
`17:49.54`	`Barbanus`	`nevcairiel, what random rare boss?`
`17:50.04`	`NeoTron`	`we're doing OK for sure`
`17:50.12`	`NeoTron`	`not as good as I would like sometimes`
`17:50.31`	`JJSheets`	`cncfanatics, whatcha need?`
`17:50.31`	`NeoTron`	`we did at least get to do Romulo and Julienne`
`17:50.39`	`NeoTron`	`first time was rough, second time one shotted`
`17:50.44`	`nevcairiel`	`Barbanus: oh on the entrance to the right, the rooms with spiders and bats etc, if you clear everything, a rare boss can spawn`
`17:50.55`	`nevcairiel`	`CAN spawn`
`17:51.00`	`NeoTron`	`nevcairiel: usually not worth the effort right?`
`17:51.01`	`nevcairiel`	`does not all the time.`
`17:51.06`	`nevcairiel`	`we do it for fun`
`17:51.06`	`nevcairiel`	`generally`
`17:51.10`	`nevcairiel`	`doesnt take too long`
`17:51.10`	`NeoTron`	`ah`
`17:51.14`	`NeoTron`	`trash is easy`
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`17:51.56`	`NeoTron`	`it's somewhat ironic but it seems trash is our worst enemy`
`17:51.58`	`NeoTron`	`at least new trash`
`17:51.59`	`vithos`	`imo the rep makes it worth doing`
`17:52.08`	`NeoTron`	`once we've done it once or twice we have no problems`
`17:52.21`	`NeoTron`	`Two words: Skeleton Ushers`
`17:52.25`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, lvl 12 paladin here and want tips to l2p tbh :p`
`17:52.41`	`NeoTron`	`cncfanatics: kill stuff. :)`
`17:52.43`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I really hope we can drop curator tonight, get a clean five bosses down the first two weeks.`
`17:52.46`	`Barbanus`	`vithos, rep in there is so easy to get`
`17:52.52`	`NeoTron`	`at l20 get uber for 10 levels as you pick up your quest mace`
`17:53.10`	`NeoTron`	`kenlyric\|work: havnig a warlock spam searing pain rocks`
`17:53.12`	`Barbanus`	`we have exaulted people already and we have been in there like 3 weeks`
`17:53.22`	`NeoTron`	`At least I had maybe 75% of the adds under control`
`17:54.48`	`JJSheets`	`cncfanatics, lol get macros. my favorite is /castsequence reset=30 Seal of the Crusader, Judgement, Seal of Righteousness, Judgement`
`17:54.48`	`pastamancer`	`NeoTron: the ushers aren't too bad, you just need to have both tanks building aggro on both ushers`
`17:54.54`	`NeoTron`	`oh I know`
`17:54.54`	`NeoTron`	`it's not so hard now`
`17:54.54`	`NeoTron`	`but dang`
`17:54.54`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, I don't like playing with macro's tbh ^^ doing it urself is much more fun`
`17:54.56`	`JJSheets`	`Other than that, just play. at lvl 12 not much decision making is needed. seal, judge, and smack around.`
`17:54.56`	`kenlyric\|work`	`NeoTron: what do you put on curator himself? I was thinking a tank, maybe a rogue, and one healer?`
`17:54.56`	`NeoTron`	`people need to get into the whole raiding mentality too`
`17:54.56`	`Barbanus`	`cncfanatics, turn the TV on`
`17:54.56`	`pastamancer`	`I hate the arcane watchmen the most so far`
`17:54.57`	`Barbanus`	`auto attack`
`17:54.57`	`Barbanus`	`:P`
`17:54.57`	`NeoTron`	`like not dpsing right as the tanks engage etc`
`17:54.57`	`JJSheets`	`cncfanatics, problem is eventually you'll want the button room, thus macros.`
`17:55.01`	`NeoTron`	`kenlyric\|work: we had the tank (warrior) with a feral druid (cat) dpsing`
`17:55.02`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, JJSheets, I Doubt I won't have enough with FB2 for buttons`
`17:55.02`	`cncfanatics`	`can have unlimited amounts :p`
`17:55.02`	`NeoTron`	`he was also taking most arcane bolts and was wearing arcane gear`
`17:55.06`	`kenlyric\|work`	`we have a rogue with TF, so he seemed the best idea at least until the nerf.`
`17:55.09`	`NeoTron`	`I had arcane resist gear myself and took a fair amount`
`17:55.10`	`JJSheets`	`cncfanatics, release FB2, mothball the pally.`
`17:55.14`	`JJSheets`	`bwahahaha`
`17:55.28`	`NeoTron`	`does he have sufficient AR/HP to be arcane bolt soaker?`
`17:55.41`	`kenlyric\|work`	`nobody we talked to suggested resist gear.`
`17:55.44`	`Barbanus`	`cncfanatics, seriously ... paladin dps is 80% about autoattack`
`17:55.47`	`kenlyric\|work`	`but yeah, he had 10k hp.`
`17:55.55`	`NeoTron`	`arcane bolts hit for 4000-5000 unresisted`
`17:55.58`	`Barbanus`	`cncfanatics, get a good weapon .. and keep it upgraded`
`17:56.02`	`Tornhoof`	`start a shaman cnc ;)`
`17:56.04`	`NeoTron`	`get the resists down 50% and you sve a lot of healing`
`17:56.06`	`kenlyric\|work`	`see, I told someone that and they said I was lying.`
`17:56.14`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, its usable if u cba to use /script :p`
`17:56.16`	`kenlyric\|work`	`now I can punch them.`
`17:56.19`	`Fisker-`	`ew cncfanatics you're an alliance paladin?`
`17:56.21`	`NeoTron`	`I had 205 AR`
`17:56.24`	`NeoTron`	`without losing too much dps`
`17:56.37`	`cncfanatics`	`Fisker- Horde forever`
`17:56.38`	`JJSheets`	`cncfanatics, like I said, MOTHBALL the PALLY... work on FB2. :p`
`17:56.39`	`NeoTron`	`the soaker probably had less`
`17:56.40`	`Barbanus`	`shh, Paladins are FTW`
`17:56.42`	`JJSheets`	`hahaha`
`17:56.43`	`NeoTron`	`we had 3 people in AR BTW`
`17:56.50`	`NeoTron`	`the druid, a rogue and myself`
`17:56.52`	`Fisker-`	`ah cncfanatics then you can't get the quest mace`
`17:56.57`	`Fisker-`	`silly NeoTron`
`17:57.01`	`kenlyric\|work`	`wait, what were you doing?`
`17:57.09`	`NeoTron`	`we were highest on the HP list and did a lot of threat. didn't get all bolts but most`
`17:57.19`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, I hate making config UIs tbh :p`
`17:57.24`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`17:57.26`	`cncfanatics`	`will get my ass on it in a weekend, not during the week`
`17:57.42`	`JJSheets`	`bah`
`17:57.51`	`cncfanatics`	`want it so bad ? :p`
`17:57.54`	`JJSheets`	`I want my FB2... but I'm not willing to make it myself.`
`17:57.56`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`17:57.57`	`cncfanatics`	`btw, nice API for omnibus :)`
`17:57.57`	`NeoTron`	`the top DPSer in the fight was the feral drudi`
`17:58.04`	`JJSheets`	`ty`
`17:58.11`	`NeoTron`	`due to not changing targets I presume`
`17:58.47`	`NeoTron`	`kenlyric\|work: out of curiosity how many evokations have you survived?`
`17:58.48`	`vhaarr`	`NeoTron: We use no resistance gear on Curator at all.`
`17:58.53`	`cncfanatics`	`NEoTron, they get nurfed next patch anyway`
`17:59.01`	`kenlyric\|work`	`only one.`
`17:59.07`	`kenlyric\|work`	`our first and best attempt.`
`17:59.20`	`NeoTron`	`cncfanatics: cat dps isn't changing much`
`17:59.27`	`NeoTron`	`kenlyric\|work: so what is your problem? controlling adds?`
`17:59.28`	`kenlyric\|work`	`after that it was getting the adds down fast enough and aggro off of me.`
`17:59.30`	`JJSheets`	`rofl`
`17:59.39`	`NeoTron`	`vhaarr: don't need it but it helps (and doesn't hurt us much)`
`17:59.50`	`NeoTron`	`so have a warlock searing paining the adds`
`18:00.06`	`vhaarr`	`nah, have healers standing on one side, they get add aggro`
`18:00.11`	`vhaarr`	`then ranged dps can just pick them off`
`18:00.20`	`kenlyric\|work`	`vhaarr: that was the theory.`
`18:00.23`	`NeoTron`	`we got him down just after the third evocation`
`18:00.27`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it actually didn't work one fight.`
`18:00.32`	`[Ammo]`	`it works fine for us`
`18:00.49`	`kenlyric\|work`	`then we tried having the dps stand between the tank and healers, so the adds would have to go through the dps.`
`18:01.03`	`zac`	`setting up an offtank to deal with the adds makes the fight loads easier`
`18:01.05`	`kenlyric\|work`	`giving them more travel time.`
`18:01.17`	`Tornhoof`	`just kill him ;)`
`18:01.18`	`sylvanaar`	`more arcane damage plz`
`18:01.19`	`kenlyric\|work`	`we had two, a rogue and our second tank.`
`18:01.44`	`kenlyric\|work`	`but with one healer on the MT and the bolt eater, I more than once went ahead of the bolt eater on aggro.`
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`18:02.05`	`NeoTron`	`We killed him on our 4th try and our first and second was completely messed up (after raid end, no strategy, everyone tired)`
`18:02.16`	`NeoTron`	`third attempt was accidently body pulled too early`
`18:02.24`	`sylvanaar`	`the arcane only corrupts`
`18:02.29`	`NeoTron`	`so.. our strat worked pretty darn good as the first real execution got him down`
`18:02.33`	`kenlyric\|work`	`yeah, I learned a lesson about rezzing people after that fight... Ask them if they are there first.`
`18:02.45`	`kenlyric\|work`	`fucking autorez accept mods.`
`18:02.45`	`NeoTron`	`haha`
`18:03.29`	`Tornhoof`	`anyone killed illhoof after the changes?`
`18:03.31`	`kenlyric\|work`	`let's just say this guild has always had trouble with spawning adds.`
`18:03.49`	`NeoTron`	`kenlyric\|work: understand the problem`
`18:03.55`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Same problems with the hexxer in zul'gurub and fankriss in AQ40.`
`18:04.04`	`NeoTron`	`I've been in guild that could not handle things like razorgore and nefarian very easily`
`18:04.54`	`NeoTron`	`have been unable to focus-dps mobs (much split DPS) too. ironically way back when the only mobs we couldn't seem to split DPS on were core hound packs`
`18:05.03`	`kenlyric\|work`	`nefarian and razorgore are easier though.. you know where the mobs will spawn, and where they will head :)`
`18:05.06`	`Tornhoof`	`hehe neotron`
`18:05.17`	`Tornhoof`	`fankriss is kinda simple`
`18:05.26`	`Tornhoof`	`if you have enough tanks`
`18:05.29`	`kenlyric\|work`	`fankriss was easysauce with 8 priests.`
`18:05.47`	`NeoTron`	`kenlyric\|work: true but you still need to control them`
`18:05.47`	`cncfanatics`	`talking about raid balance`
`18:05.47`	`NeoTron`	`heh`
`18:05.50`	`kenlyric\|work`	`that was the only kill we had on him. Never figured out a workable real strategy.`
`18:06.16`	`Tornhoof`	`offtank adds, dps him down, switch over to big spawns`
`18:06.17`	`kenlyric\|work`	`NeoTron: no, we fear bombed (allong with the four or five warlocks) and just burned down fankriss :)`
`18:07.02`	`NeoTron`	`I've used at least 3 different tactics`
`18:07.03`	`Tornhoof`	`we used shamans to stop those snakes`
`18:07.05`	`NeoTron`	`all seemed to work ok`
`18:07.05`	`Tornhoof`	`was funny ;)`
`18:07.06`	`cncfanatics`	`well, fankriss is damn easy after all`
`18:07.23`	`kenlyric\|work`	`cncfanatics: again, once you figure out how to do it, all fights are easy.`
`18:07.41`	`Tornhoof`	`there are enough luck encounter out there`
`18:07.49`	`Tornhoof`	`just look at the prince in karazhan`
`18:07.52`	`kenlyric\|work`	`except when razorgore fucking wipes out all your priests to start out with.`
`18:08.00`	`CIA-18`	`03jerry * r29612 10Talented/ (core.lua encode.lua locale-enUS.lua ui/base.lua viewmode.lua): Talented: Better UI design (template vs current build)`
`18:08.03`	`kenlyric\|work`	`eerr, vael, not razorgore`
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`18:08.05`	`Tornhoof`	`infernal spawn points might go bad etc.`
`18:08.29`	`CIA-18`	`03jerry * r29613 10Talented/chat.lua: Talented: fixes to chat export.`
`18:08.38`	`kenlyric\|work`	`yeah, there are a few random luck fights. But most aren't that way.`
`18:09.00`	`Tornhoof`	`dunno how many attempts we had on him where the infernals spawned like circle around us or the mt`
`18:09.10`	`cncfanatics`	`kenlyric\|work: the damn twins were fucking har`
`18:09.10`	`CIA-18`	`03kaelten * r29614 10cgProfiler/profile/profile.lua:`
`18:09.10`	`CIA-18`	`cgProfiler -`
`18:09.10`	`CIA-18`	`- Fixed initial data availability by delaying it 30 secs after logon.`
`18:09.11`	`cncfanatics`	`hard*`
`18:09.19`	`cncfanatics`	`but that was mainly cuz our locks sucked too :p`
`18:09.39`	`Tornhoof`	`the twins were the first boss i actually came up with a real strategy`
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`18:10.28`	`Tornhoof`	`since our healers tend to just look on bars and ignoring things like blizzard completely ;)`
`18:10.58`	`JoshBorke`	`hey! that's the mark of a good healer!`
`18:11.05`	`pastamancer`	`lol`
`18:11.50`	`Tornhoof`	`yah, cthun was funny with those: "There was no red eye looking at me"`
`18:12.06`	`Tornhoof`	`then he showed me a screenshot of his ui`
`18:12.13`	`Tornhoof`	`no wonder he didn't see any eye ;)`
`18:12.43`	`Fisker-`	`long live grid`
`18:12.48`	`cncfanatics`	`indeed`
`18:12.55`	`pastamancer`	`haha, I remember raiding MC, with only about a postage stamp sized part of the world visible`
`18:13.11`	`kenlyric\|work`	`just pointing out that it's not always fair to call a fight easy just because it wasn't hard for your guild. Lots of fights prove to be randomly challenging. Doesn't really make them "easy" or "hard".`
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`18:13.38`	`kenlyric\|work`	`in MC you completely afford to never see the world around you :)`
`18:13.47`	`kenlyric\|work`	`that pretty much ends with the rain of fire on tech packs in BWL>`
`18:14.16`	`NeoTron`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:14.35`	`Tornhoof`	`heh ya ken, we wiped days on patchwerk with normal healing strategies, then we switched over to shaman chainhealing and on our first chainheal attempt he died ;)`
`18:14.46`	`kenlyric\|work`	`concecration doesn't get your priests out of rain of fire :)`
`18:15.03`	`NeoTron`	`nah but it gets bombs out of the picture mostly`
`18:15.09`	`Fisker-`	`i hated tech packs`
`18:15.17`	`Fisker-`	`never any healing for me :/`
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`18:15.24`	`kenlyric\|work`	`what were you?`
`18:15.30`	`Fisker-`	`I could go from like 100->0% just from firemaw to chromaggus`
`18:15.31`	`Fisker-`	`a rogue`
`18:15.40`	`kenlyric\|work`	`yeah, stay the fuck away from the bombs.`
`18:15.48`	`Fisker-`	`Of course`
`18:15.51`	`JoshBorke`	`i woulda just stayed stealthed`
`18:15.54`	`Fisker-`	`i meant the warlock rain of fire :P`
`18:16.01`	`Fisker-`	`In the end i did`
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`18:16.08`	`Fisker-`	`only started helping when warlocks were dead`
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`18:16.43`	`Fisker-`	`They got better at it though so after some weeks i could dps happily ever after`
`18:16.47`	`kenlyric\|work`	`BWL is a good example of things that are randomly difficult... I know a guild that wiped to *ebonroc for like two weeks, but one-shotted chrom and nef.`
`18:17.12`	`Tornhoof`	`ya, i know that`
`18:17.24`	`kenlyric\|work`	`and there are actually people that wipe on golemmag but were still able to tie their own shoes.`
`18:17.44`	`Tornhoof`	`we did our first firemaw kill with 35 ppl and wiped endlessly on ebonroc ;)`
`18:18.19`	`kenlyric\|work`	`BWL required too many fights where the tanks couldn't be stupid.`
`18:18.26`	`kenlyric\|work`	`we had some epic stupid tanks`
`18:18.31`	`Tornhoof`	`we too`
`18:18.44`	`Tornhoof`	`i even wrote an addon for the tanks which showed taunt resists ;)`
`18:18.45`	`JoshBorke`	`why weren't they just rogues then? those are expendable`
`18:18.49`	`NeoTron`	`yep BWL requried more from the tanks`
`18:18.50`	`kenlyric\|work`	`then we found out the warrior class leader didn't have beserker stance.`
`18:19.10`	`NeoTron`	`I hope he didn't remain class leader for much longer?`
`18:19.19`	`kenlyric\|work`	`and there was the epic debate where the priests were trying to convince them to use execute on vael.`
`18:19.36`	`Tornhoof`	`hehe`
`18:19.36`	`Fisker-`	`We used like the first couple of months on Razorgore randomly wiping/succeeding`
`18:19.44`	`Fisker-`	`never got to more than 1 vaelastrasz try each couple of weeks`
`18:19.57`	`kenlyric\|work`	`apart from the duh of using execute with infinite rage, there was the fact that he starts at 30% health that they just didn't get.`
`18:20.36`	`kenlyric\|work`	`and then he tried to tell us that spec made no difference.`
`18:20.51`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Maybe, but you need the skill to overcome the deficiency of your spec, and you don't have the skill.`
`18:20.57`	`Tornhoof`	`we had one of those "tanking with damage" guys once ;)`
`18:20.58`	`kenlyric\|work`	`but he finally left, hurrah!`
`18:21.21`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmmm, anyone has experience with niagara ?`
`18:21.32`	`shieldb`	`cncfanatics, <3 niagara`
`18:21.32`	`kenlyric\|work`	`we only had one prot warrior in the whole guild. The priests spent about 15 minutes looking at the talents in prot and were in an uproar.`
`18:21.36`	`shieldb`	`for some stuff, anyways`
`18:21.40`	`cncfanatics`	`shieldb, I got some things i'm wondering if I could do them`
`18:21.48`	`cncfanatics`	`could you enlighten me ? :p`
`18:22.16`	`shieldb`	`niagara is like deucecommander but with config windows instead of dropdown menus`
`18:22.38`	`*** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x535dce9d.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)`
`18:22.50`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I was in a pug last night... we had a bad pull to start, which is fine. Then as we're running back, the rogue asks the tank to put on his shield. The warrior didn't have a shield because it hurt his dps and that healers could keep him up just fine.`
`18:23.16`	`cncfanatics`	`whats wrong with that ?`
`18:23.35`	`shieldb`	`I'm confused as to what your specific question is :)`
`18:23.37`	`JJSheets`	`cncfanatics, you may be wanting to look at Waterfall instead... not sure.`
`18:24.10`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, probably`
`18:24.21`	`cncfanatics`	`tbh I just want to code an aceoptions table and have an UI out of that`
`18:24.24`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I don't think i've ever dropped a pug so fast. If /flee was an emote, I'd use it`
`18:24.28`	`cncfanatics`	`and now i'm here wondering some stuff :p`
`18:24.35`	`JJSheets`	`unfortunately, Waterfall's documentation doesn't seem to be fully written... :)`
`18:24.49`	`cncfanatics`	`bah, no problem there, used to that :p`
`18:24.51`	`JJSheets`	`cncfanatics, Waterfall. FeedAceOptionsTable`
`18:25.00`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, FB2 has no doc at all atm :p`
`18:25.11`	`cncfanatics`	`even though 3/4th of the API is specificly for addon coders`
`18:25.15`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`18:25.30`	`cncfanatics`	`should get into that too`
`18:25.38`	`JJSheets`	`nono document later... :P`
`18:25.46`	`JJSheets`	`FINISH NOW! heh`
`18:25.51`	`cncfanatics`	`NOW ? dream on :p`
`18:25.53`	`cncfanatics`	`wednesday maybe`
`18:26.01`	`cncfanatics`	`got half a day off then`
`18:26.10`	`cncfanatics`	`but I sure won't make some stupid config UI after school`
`18:26.37`	`JJSheets`	`Do you have an AceOptions table? If so feed it into Waterfall?`
`18:26.45`	`JJSheets`	`step 2...`
`18:26.50`	`JJSheets`	`step 3 - Profit!`
`18:26.52`	`cncfanatics`	`I don't got an AceOptions table ^^`
`18:26.55`	`JJSheets`	`bah`
`18:27.06`	`JJSheets`	`that must be step 2...`
`18:27.42`	`JJSheets`	`Well... I guess I'll quit bugging you and go get some lunch... :)`
`18:29.34`	`cncfanatics`	`35% damage reduction on pala`
`18:29.36`	`cncfanatics`	`so owns`
`18:29.51`	`kenlyric\|work`	`huh?`
`18:30.15`	`kenlyric\|work`	`is that at level 12?`
`18:30.16`	`cncfanatics`	`changes from the squishy 10% on mage :p`
`18:30.18`	`cncfanatics`	`yes it is :p`
`18:30.27`	`cncfanatics`	`13 actualy, just dinged`
`18:30.41`	`kenlyric\|work`	`yeah, but your pally gets hit more :)`
`18:30.53`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it's what you call "balance"`
`18:31.10`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, i'd doubt that tbh`
`18:31.15`	`cncfanatics`	`I get hit a lot as a 70 firemage ;)`
`18:31.44`	`kenlyric\|work`	`yes, but as a 13 ice mage, you don't let shit touch you.`
`18:32.13`	`kenlyric\|work`	`all my ranged classes are designed and played with the idea that nothing should ever be allowed to touch me :)`
`18:32.21`	`cncfanatics`	`lol`
`18:32.23`	`cncfanatics`	`firemage > all :pm`
`18:32.42`	`cncfanatics`	`I play a mage with the idea that nothing can kill me faster then I kill them :p`
`18:32.44`	`*** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@lanip-170-65.go180.net)`
`18:32.48`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I don't like running back to my corpse that much.`
`18:33.04`	`cncfanatics`	`well, in pvp u can get rez'd`
`18:33.08`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I tend to find when I play as fire i rely on crits too much.`
`18:33.12`	`kenlyric\|work`	`pvp. bah!`
`18:33.49`	`cncfanatics`	`kenlyric\|work, you can rely on em with 30% chance to crit ...`
`18:33.58`	`cncfanatics`	`ever tried the nexushorn from arcatraz also ?`
`18:34.01`	`cncfanatics`	`it so owns for fire`
`18:35.02`	`*** part/#wowace ggilbert (n=ggilbert@tinman.treke.net)`
`18:35.07`	`*** join/#wowace ggilbert (n=ggilbert@tinman.treke.net)`
`18:35.12`	`kenlyric\|work`	`yeah, I won't debate fire is nice at the end, but it's a rough sell when levelling.`
`18:35.51`	`cncfanatics`	`I've been pure fire since I was out of MC`
`18:35.54`	`kenlyric\|work`	`though, I did the ice mage thing once, maybe I should go fire this time around.`
`18:36.07`	`kenlyric\|work`	`well, you don't level up in MC :)`
`18:36.17`	`cncfanatics`	`true :p`
`18:36.21`	`cncfanatics`	`after it you do though :p`
`18:36.23`	`cncfanatics`	`60->70 I was fire`
`18:36.56`	`cncfanatics`	`10->60 too :p`
`18:37.09`	`kergoth`	`leveling with frost is fun`
`18:37.16`	`kergoth`	`the degree of control is crazy`
`18:37.23`	`kenlyric\|work`	`the damage increase in fire never seemed worth all the safety I was getting in ice.`
`18:37.52`	`cncfanatics`	`well, frost getting nerfed more next patch`
`18:37.58`	`cncfanatics`	`thats one of the reasons it is :p`
`18:38.02`	`ggilbert`	`I did 1-66 as fire and then 66-70 as frost. That last stretch was much nicer.`
`18:38.05`	`kenlyric\|work`	`though when I hit 60 and had shatter + ignite + improved flamestrike, aoe grinding was cake :)`
`18:38.14`	`ggilbert`	`Particularly with ice lance spam.`
`18:38.25`	`cncfanatics`	`shatter getting nerfed next patch, its sad`
`18:38.26`	`kenlyric\|work`	`well, I never experienced frost with ice lance, so it wouldn't really be a nerf in my eyes.`
`18:38.57`	`cncfanatics`	`its not icelance getting nerfed`
`18:38.58`	`cncfanatics`	`its frost nova`
`18:39.19`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it's not shatter getting nerfed, it's frost nova. :)`
`18:39.33`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it's like a delicious surprise inside of a nerf.`
`18:39.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`how's frost nova getting nerfed?`
`18:39.35`	`cncfanatics`	`well, shatter indirectly`
`18:39.42`	`kenlyric\|work`	`breaks on crit, every time`
`18:39.43`	`cncfanatics`	`it will break on any crit from next patch on`
`18:39.46`	`ggilbert`	`True, but it's a frost nova nerf specifically intended to nerf shatter.`
`18:39.51`	`kenlyric\|work`	`though honestly, it always seemed to break on non-crits for me.`
`18:39.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`interesting`
`18:40.02`	`cncfanatics`	`so, no more doublecrits with frost nova`
`18:40.03`	`kenlyric\|work`	`the frost nova nerf is specifically intended to nerf ice lance, too.`
`18:40.06`	`cncfanatics`	`even fireball + fireblast wont work`
`18:40.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`well it has a chance to break on any hit anyway, right?`
`18:40.14`	`ggilbert`	`cncfanatics: nah you should be able to do that`
`18:40.16`	`kenlyric\|work`	`NightHawkTheSane: yes.`
`18:40.18`	`cncfanatics`	`nope ggiblert`
`18:40.23`	`kenlyric\|work`	`but it's now 100% on crit.`
`18:40.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah`
`18:40.26`	`cncfanatics`	`it'll break when the spell leaves ur hand`
`18:40.30`	`kenlyric\|work`	`which is what they always intended.`
`18:40.34`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`so basically it just prevents ice lance abuse, which seems fair`
`18:40.35`	`ggilbert`	`Ah lame.`
`18:40.41`	`cncfanatics`	`ggilbert, indeed`
`18:40.51`	`cncfanatics`	`but its then that the crit chance gets calculated so its only fair tbh :p`
`18:40.59`	`JoshBorke`	`are they decreasing the chance it'll break on any damage?`
`18:41.02`	`cncfanatics`	`no`
`18:41.11`	`kenlyric\|work`	`NightHawkTheSane: oh, yeah, they even said that... it's been a bug fora while, but it didn't really stand out how bad it was until ice lance :)`
`18:41.16`	`cncfanatics`	`tbh, the change wasnt even in the patchnotes: p`
`18:41.29`	`cncfanatics`	`stealthnerf, till someone found out`
`18:41.30`	`kenlyric\|work`	`the really jice ones never are.`
`18:41.32`	`shieldb`	`cncfanatics, that's been increasingly common as of late :)`
`18:41.34`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`kenlyric\|work: yeah, im not surprised.`
`18:42.09`	`cncfanatics`	`shieldb, nooo ? u sure ?`
`18:42.25`	`ggilbert`	`Forcing a break on crit is a good change, but I'm not sure I agree with the change to break immediately on cast.`
`18:42.27`	`shieldb`	`no I meant about more and more significant changes not being in patchnotes`
`18:42.29`	`cncfanatics`	`i find it though of blizz to put druid & priest nerfs in notes tbh`
`18:42.44`	`shieldb`	`I couldn't comment either way on the shatter / frost nova / etc mage changes`
`18:43.21`	`cncfanatics`	`its plain bad :p`
`18:43.22`	`kenlyric\|work`	`they tend to ignore noting changes they consider bugfixes which are also nerfs :)`
`18:44.03`	`kenlyric\|work`	`this is why so many changes to bosses are never noted. They're simple bugfixes which also tend to make things harder on the player.`
`18:44.27`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`heyyya`
`18:44.32`	`Codayus`	`Frankly, the process which gets patch notes written seems...flawed. A lot of stuff doesn't make it onto the patch notes...and not just perceived bug fixes, either.`
`18:44.37`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, PoM is way overpowered for PvP`
`18:44.50`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`anyone use FireFox Growee Toolbar?`
`18:45.12`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`I want to make a Search Plugin For WoWAce and possibly WoWInterface`
`18:45.20`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it does seem random at times, but in general, you'll notice the things that get noted are when intended functionality is changed, bugfixes which benefit the player, things like that.`
`18:45.25`	`Codayus`	`But, to be fair to Bliz, I can see where it'd be hard to keep track of the impact of bug fixes.`
`18:45.35`	`kenlyric\|work`	`JoshBorke: it's pretty overpowered for PVE, too :)`
`18:45.59`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I can explore anything I want like a rogue with PoM :)`
`18:46.16`	`kenlyric\|work`	`cave full of mobs? no problem.`
`18:46.28`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`whats PoM?`
`18:46.29`	`Codayus`	`As a 100% pure PvE priest, I'm...REALLY upset about the PoM nerf. :-/`
`18:46.42`	`JoshBorke`	`i'm not really upset about it`
`18:46.43`	`shieldb`	`prayer of mending`
`18:46.44`	`JoshBorke`	`as a pure PvE priest :-P`
`18:46.48`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Codayus: I'm 100% pve, but it doesn't bother me. It's obviously overpowered.`
`18:46.58`	`JoshBorke`	`i still think 10 seconds is a bit long, but it's hell of a lot better than 20`
`18:47.05`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I shouldn't be able to freely wander through a cave ignoring all mobs. It's just wrong.`
`18:47.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`we had a big pull in heroic steamvaults that we laughed at yesterday because one of the mobs put roots on all of us, priest said the damage from roots was making PoM go nuts healing everybody`
`18:47.08`	`cncfanatics`	`you could outheal trash with pom only ...`
`18:47.12`	`Codayus`	`....it causes me physical pain to say it.`
`18:47.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`er not steamvaults but slave pens`
`18:47.29`	`Codayus`	`But PoM is, yeah, probably OP for PvE.`
`18:47.41`	`JoshBorke`	`PoM is OP for everything`
`18:47.49`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I can't think of a single place in pve where I'd want to spam PoM.`
`18:48.05`	`JoshBorke`	`dude! it's BEAUTIFUL for AoE`
`18:48.10`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, I know one`
`18:48.14`	`kenlyric\|work`	`except, like I said, exploring caves or really bad pulls.`
`18:48.15`	`cncfanatics`	`the small dude pulls in arcatraz`
`18:48.27`	`cncfanatics`	`PoM outheals em`
`18:48.27`	`JoshBorke`	`the satyr boss botanica`
`18:48.27`	`cncfanatics`	`deltron, what ones ?`
`18:48.31`	`JoshBorke`	`and it's great for the initial pull to put on the tank`
`18:48.31`	`shieldb`	`any boss with a damage aura is a great situation for PoM`
`18:48.34`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`Can anyone link me to a WowAce FavIcon?`
`18:48.40`	`Codayus`	`PoM is awesome in too many situations to list. :-)`
`18:48.48`	`kenlyric\|work`	`yeah, but it just doesn't jump that fast.`
`18:48.59`	`deltron`	`cncfanatics: wrath of air applies to healing now, and elemental focus triggers on all spell critical strikes`
`18:49.13`	`JoshBorke`	`kenlyric\|work: it jumps fast enough.`
`18:49.15`	`cncfanatics`	`elemental focus being ?`
`18:49.20`	`deltron`	`clearcasting`
`18:49.24`	`cncfanatics`	`:o`
`18:49.26`	`cncfanatics`	`on any crit ?`
`18:49.30`	`deltron`	`yep`
`18:49.30`	`cncfanatics`	`that would be imba on my mage`
`18:49.34`	`JoshBorke`	`kenlyric\|work: and when it does jump 5 times, it's the best mana/heal ratio you can get`
`18:49.37`	`Codayus`	`Does this fight have aggro issues? Use PoM. Are you duoing? Use Pom + SW:Death. Does this fight have AoE? Use PoM. Does this fight need an instant reactive heal? Use PoM. Does this fight need insanely good healing efficiency? Use PoM. :-/`
`18:49.38`	`cncfanatics`	`30% chance to proc it, 35% with oomkin`
`18:49.51`	`Codayus`	`Does this fight need you to heal? ...use PoM...`
`18:49.53`	`deltron`	`when I was specced elemental, my crit rate was over 30% myself`
`18:49.54`	`pastamancer`	`Codayus: amen`
`18:49.55`	`kenlyric\|work`	`JoshBorke: yeah, but by the time i'ts jumpeed five times, you've easily gone through most of that 10 second window.`
`18:50.08`	`Tornhoof`	`i had ~33% with elemental ;)`
`18:50.16`	`JoshBorke`	`kenlyric\|work: i know, that's why i still think 10 seconds is a little long ;-)`
`18:50.27`	`cncfanatics`	`its 20 seconds cooldown actualy`
`18:50.32`	`kenlyric\|work`	`using PoM isn't the issue... it's getting other people to get away from the melee that's the issue :)`
`18:50.35`	`shieldb`	`we did illhoof last night and PoM was great there`
`18:50.45`	`kenlyric\|work`	`cncfanatics: keep up, friend. it's 10 seconds now`
`18:50.46`	`deltron`	`Tornhoof: the amount of elemental gear in TBC is so awesome`
`18:50.52`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`18:50.56`	`JoshBorke`	`yea cncfanatics, that's so last week`
`18:51.03`	`pastamancer`	`5sec would be mor reasonable`
`18:51.12`	`JoshBorke`	`pastamancer: agreed`
`18:51.13`	`kenlyric\|work`	`and hey, shield and fade got nice buffs.`
`18:51.16`	`Codayus`	`Also, I'm about 80% sure the jumps aren't random. Needs more testing.`
`18:51.18`	`kenlyric\|work`	`as pve priest, I'm happy with the changes.`
`18:51.19`	`JoshBorke`	`meh, shield still sucks`
`18:51.25`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`.. anyone can help?`
`18:51.26`	`JoshBorke`	`reflective shield moreso`
`18:51.36`	`pastamancer`	`haha, PW:S got maybe 100 more damage`
`18:51.45`	`kenlyric\|work`	`25% increase for fade 7. That's crazy.`
`18:51.45`	`JoshBorke`	`Codayus: from a post on the priest forums ( that i can't find) it goes like this: 20 yards, lowest health`
`18:51.47`	`pastamancer`	`that's less than mobs sneeze for`
`18:51.51`	`Codayus`	`nod`
`18:53.03`	Funkeh`	`pastamancer`
`18:53.04`	`kenlyric\|work`	`of course, tracking PoM is half the fun. Having a cooldown will keep me from spamming it too often because I ahve no idea if it's still up.`
`18:53.18`	Funkeh`	`i presume theres a reason forcastcomlib sending a message when applying sometihng to a weapon?`
`18:53.28`	Funkeh`	`something*`
`18:53.36`	`Codayus`	`Grid or MendWatch help a lot.`
`18:53.40`	`JoshBorke`	Funkeh`: it's a generic spellcast communication mod
`18:53.51`	`JoshBorke`	`i <3 MendWatch`
`18:54.06`	`Codayus`	`I use Grid and a side indicator just to track PoM buffs.`
`18:54.07`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I got some sort of mod, but haven't been able to try it out yet.`
`18:54.33`	`JoshBorke`	`kenlyric\|work: http://joshborke.is-a-geek.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Mod-Screenshots&id=image001`
`18:54.37`	`Codayus`	`We usually have 2 holy priests in Karazhan, and we both abuse PoM a lot, watching the buffs jump around on grid helps a lot. :-)`
`18:54.41`	`JoshBorke`	`is a screenshot of mendwatch`
`18:55.04`	`pastamancer`	Funkeh`: well, it's a spell
`18:55.16`	`Codayus`	`I tested MendWatch and it's pretty cool too, but I'm not sure how it'd handle two priests (I only tested it duoing with a warrior).`
`18:55.23`	Funkeh`	`spell or not, is it _useful_ ?`
`18:55.31`	`JoshBorke`	`Codayus: i dunno how good it would be :-/`
`18:55.41`	`JoshBorke`	Funkeh`: the point is that it doesn't filter
`18:55.48`	`pastamancer`	`there's no reason to specifically exclude it`
`18:56.03`	Funkeh`	`reduce the amount of message sent imo :p`
`18:56.23`	`deltron`	`what is battlechat?`
`18:56.23`	`pastamancer`	`yeah, because you're re-poisoning you weapon 10 times a second`
`18:56.26`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, can anyone explain PoM to me exactly ?`
`18:56.29`	`Codayus`	`I just wish Bliz hadn't shown us the power of a spammable PoM if they were just going to nerf it. (Then again, my druid friends say the exact same thing about feral tanking.)`
`18:56.33`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I'm beginning to think I need something different for raid healing.`
`18:56.48`	`kenlyric\|work`	`aguf frames just aren't working for my brain.`
`18:56.56`	`kenlyric\|work`	`Needs an option "filter buffs, but no debuffs"`
`18:57.06`	`deltron`	`i don't use aguf for raiding`
`18:57.07`	`kenlyric\|work`	`s/no/not/`
`18:57.09`	`deltron`	`i use simpleraid`
`18:57.11`	`pastamancer`	`castcomm is simple and it's generic. maybe someone will want to know when/what rogues are doing with their poisons`
`18:57.21`	`Codayus`	`cncfanatics: It's a very cheap buff which you cast on a friendly target. The next time that target takes damage, they get healed, and the buff is lost, and is applied to someone within 20 yards.`
`18:57.31`	`Codayus`	`PoM will jump up to 5 times.`
`18:57.58`	Funkeh`	`i think you should worry less about stuff that no mod is taking advantage of, add it when a mod needs it, not incase a mod needs it`
`18:58.08`	`cncfanatics`	`Codayus, thats imba ?`
`18:58.12`	Funkeh`	`adding things incase a mod needs it in future is a waste imo`
`18:58.14`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it's the most efficient spell even if it works only twice :)`
`18:58.19`	`cncfanatics`	`spam it on everyone and it'll just jump arounhd lol`
`18:58.21`	`Codayus`	`Very much so, but it's one of the hardest spells to use well.`
`18:58.25`	`pastamancer`	Funkeh`: why?
`18:58.33`	`JoshBorke`	`cncfanatics: it can only be on one target at a time`
`18:58.38`	`Codayus`	`A) The threat from healing is applied to the poerson healed. NOT to you. Spam on a tank as they pull, and they get rock solid aggro.`
`18:58.40`	`cncfanatics`	`JoshBroke :o`
`18:58.42`	`JoshBorke`	`cncfanatics: 2 priests can cancel out the PoM`
`18:58.42`	Funkeh`	`because its not being taken advantage of, its sitting there wasting`
`18:58.43`	`kenlyric\|work`	`but if your ranged is too close, and it jumps to them, it dies there.`
`18:58.54`	Funkeh`	`wasted code`
`18:59.07`	`pastamancer`	Funkeh`: haha, no
`18:59.10`	`cncfanatics`	`well, I think 10 sec cd is reasonable`
`18:59.19`	`JoshBorke`	`wait, there's wasted code in CastCommLib?`
`18:59.20`	`pastamancer`	Funkeh`: it would take more code to filter stuff out
`18:59.25`	`JoshBorke`	`i tohught all it did was wrap the information?`
`18:59.36`	`Codayus`	`B) The size of the heal is based on YOUR +healing. Carry ~1k healing, and it hits for quite a bit. If it hits 1 target, it's about as efficient as flash heal. If it hits 2-3 (which it will if your in AoE, or have multiple tanks), and it's much better.`
`18:59.46`	Funkeh`	`maybe i should actually look at it at some point in time, but alright`
`18:59.54`	`pastamancer`	`I think you should`
`19:00.00`	`pastamancer`	`it's really really simple`
`19:00.05`	`pastamancer`	`and that's what makes it good`
`19:00.13`	`JoshBorke`	`well, useful :-P`
`19:00.50`	`pastamancer`	`it's under 1k lines including whitespace and comments`
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`19:01.38`	`JoshBorke`	`tldr`
`19:01.53`	`JoshBorke`	`if it's more than 100 lines i ignore it :-P`
`19:02.02`	`Codayus`	`You can also use/abuse SW:Death - if the PoM charge ever lands on you, SW:Death the mob. The damage you take will trigger PoM, heal you back up to full, and then the charge will jump off (probably to someone more useful).`
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`19:02.05`	`pastamancer`	`:p`
`19:02.16`	`JoshBorke`	`Codayus: i do that all the time :-D`
`19:02.41`	`Codayus`	`nod Ups PoM efficiency, AND gives you nearly free damage. <3`
`19:02.42`	`JoshBorke`	`seriously though, i thikn 5 seconds is the sweet point for cooldown`
`19:02.49`	`Codayus`	`I'd accept 6s.`
`19:02.49`	`pastamancer`	`yah, I like that trick`
`19:02.50`	`kenlyric\|work`	`codayus, yeah, that's what I do with pom if it hits me.`
`19:03.04`	`Codayus`	`I'd be happy with 6s rather.`
`19:03.06`	`JoshBorke`	`btw, the stewards in botanica = godly when MC'd`
`19:03.13`	`Codayus`	`I'll accept whatever bliz gives me, since I have no choice. :-(`
`19:03.15`	`pastamancer`	`yes!`
`19:03.35`	`JoshBorke`	`ooo! and it's fun to MC the first pull in bot and see if you can get loot on both of them`
`19:03.36`	`pastamancer`	`botanica is MC heaven`
`19:03.49`	`Codayus`	`Hmmm`
`19:03.57`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I hate mind control`
`19:04.01`	`Codayus`	`Bizarrely, I haven't been to Botanica yet. I must rectify this. I love MC. :-)`
`19:04.02`	`kenlyric\|work`	`you mean it works somewhere?`
`19:04.15`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I have not been to botanica either. Nobody wants to go.`
`19:04.20`	`JoshBorke`	`i didn't know you could MC the gene-splicers until my third run`
`19:04.21`	`pastamancer`	`I use it everywhere`
`19:04.37`	`pastamancer`	`best CC if you have enough +hit`
`19:04.50`	`JoshBorke`	`my group is me (priest), tree druid, prot warrior, feral druid, rogue/warrior usually`
`19:04.52`	`pastamancer`	`and penetration`
`19:04.53`	`Codayus`	`I use MC a lot...well, apart from heroics. THat's just asking for trouble.`
`19:04.53`	`JoshBorke`	`i get to MC shit all teh time`
`19:04.55`	`sylvanaar`	`why do priest hate mind control`
`19:05.06`	`sylvanaar`	`i made a priest expressly for that purpose`
`19:05.09`	`JoshBorke`	`just don't hit fear in steamvaults`
`19:05.33`	`Codayus`	`I tried MCing a Monk in heroic AUchenai Crytpts though, just to see...they're immune to sap and sheep, wondered if they were immune to MC. Answer: Yes. FUrther answer: And it still generates a HUGE amount of threat.`
`19:05.37`	`todd`	`anyone else having problems with cartographer and the foglight?`
`19:05.37`	`JoshBorke`	`but yea, i think botanica has the best MC`
`19:06.09`	`Codayus`	`...yeah, that was a pretty fast death...`
`19:06.09`	`JoshBorke`	`death and decay, steward ww, mender's spell damage are uber`
`19:06.28`	`sylvanaar`	`that is why i cant decide if i should level my shadow priest or warlock`
`19:06.44`	`cncfanatics`	`roll a loladin !`
`19:06.45`	`JoshBorke`	`anyway, bye`
`19:07.01`	`Codayus`	`Some days, I'm actually tempted to level a 2nd priest on the same server...just so I can spec shadow on one...`
`19:07.32`	`Saint-N`	`http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20070304/tc_zd/202326;_ylt=AscTBRKasJBBA1oAJ5FmTxrMWM0F`
`19:07.37`	`sylvanaar`	`just farm the money for respecs while you are shadow spec`
`19:07.52`	`Codayus`	`<shrug>`
`19:07.54`	`Codayus`	`I guess.`
`19:07.57`	`todd`	`http://todd.gotdns.org/cart.jpg`
`19:08.28`	`pastamancer`	`I'm leveling a palain to heal and keeping my priest shadow`
`19:08.31`	`Codayus`	`But...I haven't been shadow spec since lvl 52. I just...dunno, feel like speccing shadow would...contaminate me. :-)`
`19:08.45`	`pastamancer`	`come to the dark side`
`19:08.57`	`Codayus`	`:-D`
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`19:09.17`	`[dRaCo]`	`Join the dark side, we've got cookies.`
`19:09.30`	`Codayus`	`Heh`
`19:09.33`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`whats teh query search for the WoWAce site?`
`19:09.33`	`pastamancer`	`it's true, we do have cookies`
`19:09.37`	`cncfanatics`	`the thing is, holy pala's can grind a bit, holy priests cant :p`
`19:09.49`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=search2 ??`
`19:10.07`	`sylvanaar`	`the arcane only corrupts`
`19:10.09`	`Codayus`	`cncfanatics: Actually, somewhat untrue. Smite spec can solo well, although they drink a lot.`
`19:10.12`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`anyone?`
`19:10.50`	`cncfanatics`	`Codayus, smite is , meh, can't rly call that grinding :p`
`19:10.57`	`cncfanatics`	`though a paladin grinds damn slow too`
`19:11.10`	`Diabolic-Destiny`	`please im trying to make a search plugin for wowace`
`19:11.19`	`Codayus`	`5/5 Holy Spec, 4/5 Force of Will, 2/2 Searing Light, 2/2 Surge of Light, and then stack crit gear. I kill things VERY VERY FAST until the mana pool runs out in, um, 2-3 mobs. :-p`
`19:11.47`	`Codayus`	`(Note: This abuses the fact that Surge of Light is currently COMPLETELY bugged, and can give you chains of instacast crits.)`
`19:12.20`	`cncfanatics`	`Codayus, bugs don't count`
`19:12.24`	`Codayus`	`Pumping out 3-4k of damage in 2 seconds is fun...`
`19:12.29`	`Codayus`	`<shrug>`
`19:12.38`	`cncfanatics`	`could say I can chainkill elites too when combustion stays stacked at 10 and doesn't fade`
`19:12.48`	`cncfanatics`	`(combustion grants 10% critchance on firespells per stack)`
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`19:13.06`	`cncfanatics`	`or when evocation doesn't fade after channeling lol (fun bug)à`
`19:13.11`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`why dont warriors ever get useful bugs like those :P`
`19:13.20`	`[dRaCo]`	`they had one`
`19:13.34`	`cncfanatics`	`so fun when evocation dsnt fade, or the drink buff`
`19:13.35`	`[dRaCo]`	`the one with zoning and that +ap buff`
`19:13.39`	`cncfanatics`	`unlimited mana`
`19:13.42`	`Codayus`	`Well, I don't think Surge of Light is comparable to that...`
`19:14.06`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`[dRaCo]: did they? only one I remember is the shield block bug, which while interesting, wasn't what i'd call useful :P`
`19:14.12`	`Codayus`	`Surge of Light is supposed to give you free non-crit Smites. Instead it gives you non-free Smites (no restriction on crits).`
`19:14.44`	`Codayus`	`Not really imabalanced, just programmed backwards. :-)`
`19:14.54`	`[dRaCo]`	`it was... some warrior was two-hitting core giants back then, try google video or something`
`19:15.07`	`[dRaCo]`	`they fixed it pretty fast, though`
`19:15.27`	`vithos`	`i enjoyed the hunter dismiss pet bug while leveling`
`19:15.42`	`shieldb`	`[dRaCo], it wasn't exactly 'pretty fast' -- it was around during beta and then live for a couple weeks before it got fixed`
`19:16.00`	`shieldb`	`it just got fixed pretty fast after it became more well known`
`19:16.02`	`[dRaCo]`	`really? ok, didn't know about that`
`19:16.42`	`shieldb`	`nothing like charge + whirlwind to down four horsemen in naxx, though`
`19:18.01`	`Codayus`	`Mmm, actually using a bug like that crosses a line I think.`
`19:18.50`	`shieldb`	`there was a screenshot of a 4mil glancing blow on hakkar floating around, too`
`19:19.21`	`Codayus`	`A bit like the old pally ret bomb tactic.`
`19:19.27`	`Codayus`	`Someone 1-shot Kazzak.`
`19:19.28`	`NeoTron`	`:se noai`
`19:19.28`	`NeoTron`	`a:se ai`
`19:19.33`	`shieldb`	`yeah I remember that`
`19:19.39`	`NeoTron`	`well 1-shot isn't exactly correct`
`19:19.43`	`Codayus`	`Sorry.`
`19:19.46`	`todd`	`has anyone had any cart problems like this: http://todd.gotdns.org/cart.jpg`
`19:19.49`	`Codayus`	`Killed Kazzak in 1 second.`
`19:19.50`	`Codayus`	`:-)`
`19:19.51`	`NeoTron`	`it was a lot of hits >:-)`
`19:19.55`	`NeoTron`	`and it took longer actually`
`19:20.00`	`NeoTron`	`server couldn't keep up`
`19:20.01`	`NeoTron`	`but yeah`
`19:20.09`	`Codayus`	`<shrug> I never saw a video or combat log.`
`19:20.34`	`Codayus`	`Hmm, I wonder if a 10s PoM is worth picking up 2/2 Healing Prayers for...probably not....`
`19:20.36`	`NeoTron`	`http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMGTL6BC_cg`
`19:20.37`	`shieldb`	`todd, that's all due to dwarvish and gnomish machinery not being up to emissions standards`
`19:20.48`	`todd`	`heh`
`19:20.54`	`todd`	`it's like that for every zone :(`
`19:21.28`	`shieldb`	`you might look into your settings for foglight - I think that's the cartographer plugin that handles those`
`19:21.59`	`NeoTron`	`he spent 3 hours building up the reckonings`
`19:22.03`	`NeoTron`	`so it wasn't exactly fast :)`
`19:22.25`	`kenlyric\|work`	`codayus. I don't see how it could ever be worth it unless you were spamming PoM in the first place.`
`19:22.35`	`Gnarfoz`	`stacking rampage was nice`
`19:22.40`	`todd`	`har.. nevermind.. fixed it :P`
`19:22.42`	`kenlyric\|work`	`it's not really a talent i've ever taken seriously.`
`19:23.03`	`shieldb`	`Gnarfoz, the shaman totem deal wasn't too bad, either`
`19:23.10`	`Gnarfoz`	`dunno bout that one?`
`19:23.12`	`Gnarfoz`	`what was it`
`19:23.17`	`shieldb`	`same sort of thing`
`19:23.49`	`shieldb`	`moving in / out of the range for a totem buff would reapply / stay in conjunction with zone changes`
`19:23.54`	`Gnarfoz`	`nice`
`19:23.54`	`Gnarfoz`	`;D`
`19:24.03`	`shieldb`	`that was around the same time as the rampage bug`
`19:24.11`	`Gnarfoz`	`hadn't heard of it`
`19:24.19`	`Gnarfoz`	`maybe rampage was more obvious :D`
`19:24.19`	`NeoTron`	`wow`
`19:24.25`	`Ironhand`	`anyone know of a way to have tabbed chat windows that are seperate from the General window? it seems the default Blizz ui only allows tabs when windows are grouped with General`
`19:24.28`	`Gnarfoz`	`1-shotting raid bosses ftw`
`19:24.30`	`NeoTron`	`the l20 horde pally quest reward SUCKS`
`19:24.48`	`NeoTron`	`http://thottbot.com/?i=4190 vs http://thottbot.com/?i=57260 wtf`
`19:26.05`	`MoonWolf`	`no more oplague ?`
`19:32.43`	`Barbanus`	`NeoTron, ignoring the dps on the weapon, the stats are better for paladin .. but yea .. it should be the same dps`
`19:33.01`	`NeoTron`	`one is good for almost 10 levels`
`19:33.06`	`NeoTron`	`one is low dps when you get it`
`19:33.18`	`NeoTron`	`or comparable to blues you can get at that level`
`19:33.19`	`Barbanus`	`yea`
`19:33.27`	`NeoTron`	`weird choice`
`19:33.29`	`Barbanus`	`neither are worth getting .. IMO`
`19:33.38`	`Barbanus`	`the time you spend on it .. you could be questing`
`19:33.45`	`Barbanus`	`and get 2 levels .. lol`
`19:33.59`	`NeoTron`	`the alliance one is well worth getting`
`19:34.04`	`NeoTron`	`it's absolutely amazing`
`19:34.16`	`NeoTron`	`I mean with a high level friend you get it at leevl 20 or 21`
`19:34.26`	`NeoTron`	`and won't find any better weapon for 10 levels probably`
`19:34.59`	`shieldb`	`meh, pallies don't need gear! it doesn't make their buffs any stronger :P`
`19:38.41`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, can some pala tell me what talents to take after improved might ? :p`
`19:38.51`	`Fisker-`	`idiot`
`19:38.52`	`Fisker-`	`:P`
`19:39.02`	`Fisker-`	`You go for benediction first, and skip improved might`
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`19:39.12`	`cncfanatics`	`eh, why ? I ain't got any mana probs at lvl 15 -.-`
`19:39.19`	`shieldb`	`anyone happen to know if the spell shades / sorcerous shades and ethereals are tied to netherspite in karazhan for shutting off respawns?`
`19:39.28`	`Fisker-`	`then you're not spamming your spells enough`
`19:39.40`	`cncfanatics`	`eh, I spam em when cds are up :p`
`19:39.57`	`Fisker-`	`I used blessing of wisdom until like level 40 where i respecced reckoning`
`19:40.37`	`cncfanatics`	`seal of the crusader -> judge -> seal of righteoussness -> judge when its up`
`19:40.37`	`cncfanatics`	`dsnt take tons of mana`
`19:41.01`	`Gagorian`	`shieldb: Aren't those tied to shade of aran?`
`19:41.11`	`shieldb`	`negative`
`19:41.21`	`shieldb`	`the ones before shade of aran (just the spell shades) are tied to him`
`19:41.27`	`Fisker-`	`I disagree then cncfanatics`
`19:41.28`	`Fisker-`	`:I`
`19:41.55`	`shieldb`	`the spell shades / sorcerous shades / ethereals after shade of aran might be tied to netherspite or they might not be tied to anything in particular and always respawn`
`19:41.58`	`cncfanatics`	`Fisker-, what else can I do ? -.-`
`19:42.22`	`Gagorian`	`Well, I doubt they always respawn :p`
`19:43.06`	`Fisker-`	`nothing cncfanatics but i still used wisdom as it was better on limiting downtime`
`19:43.29`	`cncfanatics`	`well, I only got it last ding, guess i'll find out`
`19:44.11`	`shieldb`	`Gagorian, I suppose I'll be able to check this evening when we do netherspite - currently everything is down except for nightbane and netherspite`
`19:44.59`	`shieldb`	`but I was able to determine that they aren't tied to prince or shade of aran`
`19:46.40`	`Gagorian`	`well nightbane removes everything at least :p`
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`19:51.32`	`cncfanatics`	`Fisker-, think i'll get benediction & wisdom after all :p`
`19:51.35`	`cncfanatics`	`what to take on T2 ?`
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`19:58.32`	`Daemona`	`(20:41:53) (shieldb) the spell shades / sorcerous shades / ethereals after shade of aran might be tied to netherspite or they might not be tied to anything in particular and always respawn`
`19:58.37`	`Daemona`	`yes, tied to netherspite`
`19:59.11`	`shieldb`	`woo, time to update my mod accordingly, then :)`
`19:59.13`	`shieldb`	`Daemona, thanks!`
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`20:33.13`	`kenlyric\|work`	`heh, oopsie`
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`20:44.28`	`Fisker-`	`anyone know when the eu forums will be available again?`
`20:49.26`	`Gagorian`	`When druids stop crying about the nerfs, the load was too much to handle ;)`
`20:49.50`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Gagorian: lol :)`
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`20:51.04`	`cncfanatics`	`god, my parents suck`
`20:51.49`	`cncfanatics`	`its 9:50pm, i'm 17, guess what they do ?`
`20:52.39`	`Jygga`	`cut the TP cable?`
`20:52.46`	`cncfanatics`	`send me to bed`
`20:52.52`	`cncfanatics`	`fuck them seriously`
`20:52.55`	`Jygga`	`well pc in your room? ^^`
`20:53.19`	`Jygga`	`never had that problems since i had my own "wing" in our flat`
`20:53.21`	`cncfanatics`	`neh, in the room next to theirs`
`20:53.22`	`Jygga`	`gg`
`20:53.31`	`cncfanatics`	`not like it stops me lol`
`20:53.43`	`cncfanatics`	`and i'll never ever, will be allowed a comp in my room`
`20:54.21`	`kenlyric\|work`	`how will you get your internet porn?`
`20:54.29`	`kenlyric\|work`	`do they expect to you to masturbate in the living room?`
`20:54.34`	`Jygga`	`zomg no youporn for you mate ^^`
`20:54.36`	`Stephmw`	`when they're asleep I guess`
`20:54.47`	`cncfanatics`	`they went to sleep 5 mins ago`
`20:54.52`	`cncfanatics`	`but they dont hear shit`
`20:55.03`	`cncfanatics`	`even tho they pretend otherwise`
`20:55.05`	`Stephmw`	`cncfanatics: that's too much info :)`
`20:55.24`	`Jygga`	`#carebears ftw ^^`
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`20:57.37`	`cncfanatics`	`carebear parents suck when ur 17`
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`20:58.35`	`kergoth`	`you're 17 and they're trying to send you to bed at 9:50? hah`
`20:58.37`	`kenlyric\|work`	`what'd they send you to bed for?`
`20:58.38`	`kergoth`	`yeah, thatll happen`
`20:59.04`	`cncfanatics`	`just, its "late"`
`20:59.26`	`kenlyric\|work`	`must me some sort of cultural thing. I think I'd have laughed at my mom.`
`20:59.47`	`kenlyric\|work`	`I better be in some deep shit to get sent to bed at 9:50 :)`
`21:00.55`	`cncfanatics`	`well, I laugh at em too`
`21:00.57`	`cncfanatics`	`dsnt stop em`
`21:01.07`	`cncfanatics`	`I just go back doing my stuff when they sleep in though`
`21:02.48`	`AKX`	`yacoob! You just don't log in on an alt without saying hi to me! >:[`
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`21:03.50`	`yacoob`	`AKX, well, I'm making a round-trip`
`21:03.51`	`Kaelten`	`hows it goin guys?`
`21:03.57`	`AKX`	`I can see that.`
`21:04.01`	`yacoob`	`but you noticed! hug :)`
`21:04.23`	`grzesieq`	`do you guys need shade of aran logs?`
`21:04.35`	`AKX`	`Yeah, I did! :] hugs back!`
`21:05.08`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ`
`21:14.20`	`Fin`	`which state is "VA"?`
`21:14.33`	`[dRaCo]`	`virgina, iirc`
`21:14.45`	`Fin`	`ah, yeah. thanks.`
`21:14.51`	`AKX`	`Virginia.`
`21:14.56`	`Fin`	`anybody got any idea what time it would be over there right now?`
`21:15.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`4:15`
`21:15.06`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`pm`
`21:15.11`	`Fin`	`oh, great, thanks`
`21:15.15`	`NeoTron`	`so`
`21:15.19`	`Fin`	`much appreciated`
`21:15.34`	`NeoTron`	`I'm trying to figure out why exactly I worked hard to get 375 JC, and spent tons of gold in the process`
`21:15.52`	`NeoTron`	`when all I get from ti is a trinket - everything else is buyable from someone else`
`21:16.30`	`NeoTron`	`with with the amount of gold spent to level I could probably buy like 30-40 blue gems (not including lost profit from using my own mats for levelling)`
`21:16.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`NeoTron: the fact that you can charge people to make gems?`
`21:17.06`	`cncfanatics`	`NeoTran, I won over 2000g from 375 JC`
`21:17.17`	`NeoTron`	`NightHawkTheSane: yay. 5g profit ftw`
`21:17.23`	`chuckg`	`Anyone know the fast way of escaping all the character code?`
`21:17.29`	`chuckg`	`It's like \123 or something, right?`
`21:17.36`	`cncfanatics`	`if u think like that u'll never lvl a proffession`
`21:17.38`	`NeoTron`	`seriously, unless I spend tons of 200-500g on designs I won't make profit cuttinggems`
`21:17.45`	`NeoTron`	`cncfanatics: I'm at 375`
`21:17.55`	`cncfanatics`	`so am I`
`21:18.04`	`NeoTron`	`and I'm considering dropping it because it gives me nothing compared to feeding gems to a friend who's a JC`
`21:18.07`	`NeoTron`	`for him to cut`
`21:18.16`	`cncfanatics`	`and JC is a damn moneymaker`
`21:18.22`	`NeoTron`	`damn crappy one yes`
`21:18.39`	`NeoTron`	`explain exactly how you make money with it?`
`21:19.02`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`same as enchanting, really. get good designs, and make em.`
`21:19.05`	`cncfanatics`	`150g a metagem`
`21:19.11`	`cncfanatics`	`200g a lot too`
`21:19.17`	`cncfanatics`	`they're 20 mins of grinding lol`
`21:19.23`	`cncfanatics`	`just primals, always got enough gems`
`21:19.31`	`NeoTron`	`they cost 75-80g for the mats`
`21:19.33`	`cncfanatics`	`and then get a JC from ur guild to transmute free of charge`
`21:19.41`	`grzesieq`	`been considering dumping enchanting for mining, but now I got spellpower and I'm starting to make money ;P`
`21:19.41`	`cncfanatics`	`grind em in 20 mins ?`
`21:19.42`	`NeoTron`	`and I can sell the ones I have for maybe 130-140g`
`21:19.52`	`NeoTron`	`decent profit but I don't sell many (1-2 a day would be good)`
`21:20.03`	`cncfanatics`	`can sell 5-6 a day`
`21:20.10`	`cncfanatics`	`i'm one of the only JC of the horde tho`
`21:20.11`	`cncfanatics`	`helps :p`
`21:20.14`	`NeoTron`	`how many thousands of gold did the designs cost?`
`21:20.16`	`cncfanatics`	`and i'm the one with the most patterns`
`21:20.22`	`cncfanatics`	`got em free from guildies hehe`
`21:20.27`	`cncfanatics`	`guild JC ftw`
`21:20.31`	`NeoTron`	`that would make it more viable`
`21:20.38`	`grzesieq`	`our gould JC migrated :<`
`21:20.44`	`grzesieq`	`guild*`
`21:20.45`	`NeoTron`	`we have two and I would suspect most either sell the designs or give it to the other dude`
`21:21.21`	`cncfanatics`	`heh NeoTron`
`21:21.24`	`cncfanatics`	`bad luck then`
`21:21.30`	`cncfanatics`	`I took JC when BC Came out`
`21:21.33`	`NeoTron`	`mind you I do love my trinket`
`21:21.37`	`cncfanatics`	`so was kinda only one above 300+ for a while`
`21:21.39`	`NeoTron`	`I was later`
`21:22.05`	`NeoTron`	`never was much of a crafter but I joined a new/old (been a member before with my druid) guild and got the impression they had no JCer`
`21:22.08`	`NeoTron`	`which they did`
`21:22.19`	`NeoTron`	`not that two are too many really but.. I dunno`
`21:22.39`	`NeoTron`	`isn't theer a long CD on making earthstorm diamonds etc?`
`21:22.47`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`1 day`
`21:22.52`	`Kaelten`	`well I'm finally on a Mac`
`21:22.57`	`Kaelten`	`ckknight: aren't you proud?`
`21:23.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`and xmute masters can proc multiples of them`
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`21:23.03`	`NeoTron`	`so you haev an army of alchemists providing you with them cncfanatics?`
`21:23.56`	`cncfanatics`	`NeoTron, got 3-4 that do it free`
`21:24.01`	`cncfanatics`	`if those are on cd I spam /2`
`21:24.01`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten: I'm not a zealot, you know that`
`21:24.09`	`Kaelten`	`lol I know`
`21:24.14`	`Kaelten`	`actually I just have it at work atm anyway`
`21:24.18`	`NeoTron`	`what metagems do you sell for 150-200g?`
`21:24.23`	`Kaelten`	`once I head back to alabama, it'll be may before I use it again`
`21:24.29`	`Kaelten`	`so far its pretty neat`
`21:24.35`	`NeoTron`	`only one I hve that can really sell at all is the 18sta/5 stun resist one from karazhan`
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`21:26.31`	`NeoTron`	`cncfanatics: you have to admit though, there's a significant lack of JC exclusive items and epic JC items`
`21:26.39`	`NeoTron`	`there's only 2 JC epics and they both pretty much suck`
`21:27.08`	`chuckg`	`JC is a druid's wet dream right now.`
`21:27.16`	`chuckg`	`I can't imagine any other class wanting to be a jewel crafter.`
`21:27.22`	`NeoTron`	`why druid?`
`21:28.07`	`chuckg`	`Because all of the trinkets make sense.`
`21:28.11`	`chuckg`	`The ap trinket.`
`21:28.12`	`chuckg`	`The healing trinket.`
`21:28.14`	`chuckg`	`The tank trinket.`
`21:28.21`	`chuckg`	`The damage trinket (lolmoonkin)`
`21:28.28`	`chuckg`	`Every other class is bound to their singular role.`
`21:28.37`	`chuckg`	`But a druid can maximize usage of all of the types.`
`21:28.41`	`Fisker-`	`PALADIN!`
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`21:28.47`	`Fisker-`	`also shaman`
`21:29.14`	`NeoTron`	`the trinket is nice yes`
`21:29.18`	`NeoTron`	`massive stats`
`21:29.28`	`NeoTron`	`but that's a single item I can't have another guy just make for me`
`21:29.54`	`NeoTron`	`and yes being able to use all might be of some benefit`
`21:30.09`	`Fisker-`	`i'm enchanting myself cause when i reach 70 with my paladin i'll want those ring enchants :P`
`21:30.13`	`NeoTron`	`but where's the shadoweave of jewelcrafting? primal mooncloth equivalent?`
`21:30.19`	`NeoTron`	`the blacksmithing uber weapons?`
`21:30.21`	`NeoTron`	`nothing like that`
`21:30.27`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm enchanting on my rogue because it's too damned expensive to drop.`
`21:30.37`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`But the topend enchants are nearly all caster-oriented :/`
`21:30.47`	`NeoTron`	`I probably will end up keeping JC now`
`21:30.53`	`NeoTron`	`because it's too much of an nivestment`
`21:31.02`	`NeoTron`	`and hopefully they will add useful stoff`
`21:31.19`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`My other tradeskill is engineering which is getting dropped like a hot brick if the tradeskill makeover isn't AMAZING.`
`21:31.27`	`Fisker-`	`is leatherworking still a bunch of bullshit?`
`21:31.45`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Nah, there is some good stuff from it now`
`21:32.04`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Leg enchants, riding crop, and some actual real nice armor.`
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`21:32.44`	`Fisker-`	`cool`
`21:33.01`	`Fisker-`	`Enchanting could use some more also imo`
`21:33.11`	`chuckg`	`Alchemy's in for a nerf soon.`
`21:33.20`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Enchanting is good, but it needs a) more BOP-only stuff, and b) more melee-oriented stuff on the top end.`
`21:33.21`	`chuckg`	`Because they're not likely to make the encounters less challenging.`
`21:33.27`	`chuckg`	`Just make the potions less useful.`
`21:33.37`	`Fisker-`	`well that's blizzard`
`21:33.37`	`chuckg`	`I feel bad for melee enchanters.`
`21:33.39`	`Fisker-`	`and it's retarded`
`21:33.41`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`The ring enchants are really the only BOP things for enchanters, and those are really rather pathetic.`
`21:33.44`	`chuckg`	`Exalted Consortium for their ring enchant.`
`21:33.49`	`Fisker-`	`well i'm a paladin so i'm part melee :P`
`21:33.53`	`chuckg`	`Surefooted is sure nice to sell though :)`
`21:33.56`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Yeah, that too.`
`21:33.57`	`chuckg`	`I'm making ~200g a day.`
`21:33.57`	`chuckg`	`=D`
`21:34.00`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Nice.`
`21:34.02`	`Fisker-`	`though i'm gonna be holy when i reach 70`
`21:34.05`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I need to get ahold of Surefooted.`
`21:35.56`	`OverloadUT`	`What is Surefooted?`
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`21:41.01`	`NeoTron`	`is earthstoom etc transmuting shared with primal-transmuting?`
`21:41.05`	`NeoTron`	`the cooldown I mean`
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`21:41.28`	`cncfanatics`	`think so`
`21:41.31`	`cncfanatics`	`:unsure:`
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`21:42.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah shared cooldowns but diamonds are 2days while primals are 1day`
`21:42.55`	`Nayon`	`Anyone know why something would think its Anchoring itself to itself?`
`21:43.32`	`NeoTron`	`hmm`
`21:43.38`	`cncfanatics`	`buggy loop Nayon ?`
`21:43.43`	`NeoTron`	`so doing a diamong locks out primals for 2 days instead of 1?`
`21:43.55`	`cncfanatics`	`maybe it tries to anchors stuff to itself but anchors itself to itself too in the process`
`21:43.59`	`cncfanatics`	`had that before in FB2 :p`
`21:44.00`	`Nayon`	`I am assuming so..`
`21:44.43`	`Nayon`	`I have been trying to splice together two old Rogue addons, Adding a Energy ticker into Compact Combo Bar and now I just keep anchoring myself to myself..`
`21:45.00`	`cncfanatics`	`:p`
`21:45.10`	`kergoth`	`whats compact combo bar?`
`21:45.25`	`Nayon`	`want a screeni?`
`21:45.27`	`cncfanatics`	`a compact combo point counter ?`
`21:45.44`	`cncfanatics`	`btw, is cycircled easy to adapt for other actionbar addons ?`
`21:45.46`	`kergoth`	`yeah screenshot would be cool`
`21:45.56`	`Nayon`	`making one now`
`21:48.59`	`cncfanatics`	`~seen Sairen`
`21:49.24`	`purl`	`sairen <n=Miranda@p549E7AEE.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 10h 49m 41s ago, saying: 'oo'.`
`21:53.02`	`NeoTron`	`cncfanatics: what really bugs me is when I sell two earthstorm diamongs (karazhan style) for 145g or so and then someone comes and list theirs for 130g`
`21:53.26`	`NeoTron`	`it's stupid to undercut a market with basically 2-3 people selling to such a large degree (when they are selling at the higher price)`
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`21:54.35`	`Nayon`	`Kergoth: http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7262/compactcombobarzj2.png`
`21:54.40`	`JJSheets`	`cncfanatics, I want an example script for setting up FlexBar buttons. :)`
`21:54.55`	`Nayon`	`thats what it looks like now but it was cooler before I tried my hand at splicing code`
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`21:55.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Gagorian: did you change the HPM calculation/display for chain heal?`
`21:57.12`	`cncfanatics`	`NeoTron, thats anoying :p`
`21:57.12`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, /script for i = 1,120 FlexBar2:Generate(i, true); FlexBar2.Buttons[i]:SetDefaults(); FlexBar2.Buttons[i]:LoadSettings(); end`
`21:57.12`	`cncfanatics`	`after that, just mess with the savedvars till u got what u want tbh`
`21:57.12`	`cncfanatics`	`the buttons will be draggable till u lock em in ur savedvars`
`21:57.19`	`cncfanatics`	`or just check the code to find the API Funcs :p`
`21:57.26`	`NeoTron`	`cncfanatics: indeed`
`21:57.28`	`JJSheets`	`O.o`
`21:57.39`	`JJSheets`	`cncfanatics, you, sir, a a sadist.`
`21:57.50`	`JJSheets`	`s/a a/are a/`
`21:58.03`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, u expect me to explain u all API Funcs ? -.-`
`21:58.21`	`JJSheets`	`Of course. :)`
`21:58.47`	`JJSheets`	`but at least that up there gives me SOME of the info I need to get started... thanks :)`
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`22:00.47`	`kergoth`	`Nayon: ah.. doesnt a ticker like the right window there already exist? i seem to remember seeing it on wowi a while back`
`22:02.11`	`Nayon`	`Well the one on the Right is called Rogue Focus and is just the energy bar and the Ticker, I want to take the ticker and add it into compact combo bar because it shows Target hp,mp and self hp, mp`
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`22:06.30`	`kergoth`	`Nayon: ah right, i see`
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`22:07.01`	`kergoth`	`looks like a minimal hud`
`22:07.20`	`JoshBorke`	`ooo, hdu?`
`22:07.58`	`Yinchie`	`http://itchy.nl/files/images/critgalore.jpg i often crit alot but this is just 2-3 times to much than i normally do :D`
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`22:08.21`	`Nayon`	`Anyone want to take a crack at it? I am losing my patience with this little thing.`
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`22:09.15`	`JJSheets`	`cncfanatics, Group:Add(groupname, member, save), I take it member is the number of the button to add as a member?`
`22:10.41`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, member is the button object`
`22:10.51`	`cncfanatics`	`so FlexBar2.Buttons[number] for most cases`
`22:11.04`	`JJSheets`	`cool. thnx`
`22:11.05`	`cncfanatics`	`except for addons that create their own buttons without naming them`
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`22:11.10`	`cncfanatics`	`all named buttons are in that table`
`22:11.22`	`JJSheets`	`k`
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`22:11.50`	`Medlir`	`[14.37.50] <tantric> btw if you want to have fun with people (ie be a dick) summon people into the opposite faction towns in shadowmoon and get them killed.`
`22:11.51`	`stavmar`	`nymbia: ping?`
`22:12.02`	`nymbia`	`stavmar: sup`
`22:12.34`	`stavmar`	`nymbia: Can Manufac wirk together with ATSW? If you have heard of that before?`
`22:12.42`	`stavmar`	`work*`
`22:12.48`	`nymbia`	`i dunno`
`22:12.53`	`nymbia`	`arent they kinda.. redundant?`
`22:13.18`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, btw, gz :p`
`22:13.25`	`stavmar`	`yeah!`
`22:13.25`	`JJSheets`	`gz?`
`22:13.58`	`JJSheets`	`gz = grinz? or what? confused`
`22:14.03`	`stavmar`	`i guess I rally want to know if you can use manufac without opening the tradeskill windows?`
`22:14.08`	`Tornhoof`	`gratz`
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`22:14.21`	`JJSheets`	`gratz on what then. :)`
`22:14.28`	`Tornhoof`	`no idea ask cnc`
`22:14.34`	`cncfanatics`	`for actualy trying to get FB2 working without API :p`
`22:14.38`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`22:14.39`	`cncfanatics`	`without UI*`
`22:15.02`	`JJSheets`	`Well.... so far I see no buttons... but I think that's cause I haven't shown them yet... :)`
`22:15.05`	`Tornhoof`	`probably just desperation`
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`22:15.29`	`Gagorian`	`NightHawkTheSane: Yeah`
`22:15.30`	`JJSheets`	`Tornhoof, you read my mind. :)`
`22:15.43`	`Gagorian`	`I included the avg chain`
`22:15.58`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Gagorian: awesome.`
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`22:16.10`	`Gagorian`	`Because that's when it's at its highest efficiency anyway, so that's the most useful value to get`
`22:16.10`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, if u ran my loop command u shld have 120 on ur screen -.-`
`22:16.31`	`JJSheets`	`ran a loop of 14... I see no dead people... er... buttons...`
`22:16.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah i was going to ask you to do something like that :)`
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`22:16.43`	`cncfanatics`	`eh, u sure ?`
`22:16.47`	`cncfanatics`	`weird, no errors ?`
`22:17.01`	`cncfanatics`	`do a /dump FlexBar2.Buttons[1].Settings`
`22:17.03`	`Gagorian`	`Initially my concern was that then the actionar wont show the initial heal but that can also be activated now anyway :)`
`22:17.06`	`JJSheets`	`not 100% sure... :)`
`22:17.52`	`cncfanatics`	`check bugsack :p`
`22:17.52`	`JJSheets`	`ah... there they are.`
`22:18.04`	`cncfanatics`	`:o, ran it again ? /p`
`22:18.13`	`JJSheets`	`note to self... make the run button in Omnibus actually save the page before running...`
`22:19.00`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, roflmao`
`22:19.03`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`22:19.48`	`JJSheets`	`cncfanatics, FlexBar2-$Rev$\ButtonEventHandler.lua:277: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'cX' (a nil value)`
`22:20.01`	`JJSheets`	`also 292 and local 'pX'`
`22:20.10`	`JJSheets`	`happens when attempting to drag.`
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`22:20.25`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, grouped buttons i'm guessing ?`
`22:20.29`	`JJSheets`	`yup`
`22:20.33`	`cncfanatics`	`reload ur UI and try again, won't happen anymore`
`22:20.48`	`cncfanatics`	`GetPoint dsnt return shit right after a LoadSettings for some reason`
`22:20.51`	`cncfanatics`	`need to check in that`
`22:21.11`	`JJSheets`	`heh... it was nifty when I could drag it... for that first drag...`
`22:21.24`	`JoshBorke`	`GetPoint isn't updated until the next frame, just FYI`
`22:21.35`	`cncfanatics`	`dragging dsnt happen the next frame`
`22:21.39`	`cncfanatics`	`it happens many frames after`
`22:21.42`	`cncfanatics`	`when the user feels like it`
`22:21.51`	`cncfanatics`	`need to reload to get it to return anything -.-`
`22:22.03`	`JJSheets`	`oh, and now my number 3 button is separated from the others... :p`
`22:22.26`	`Ominous`	`is flexbar2 usable if you use the api functions?`
`22:22.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`somebody give me a name to call an addon im writing to make candybar timers for party members CC abilitys`
`22:22.39`	`JJSheets`	`meh`
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`22:23.14`	`Barbanus`	`Kaelten, ping? :)`
`22:23.15`	`JJSheets`	`Arrowmaster, OnTheRocks... it's related to a party and cooldowns, implying Ice.`
`22:23.20`	`Kaelten`	`Barbanus: sup?`
`22:23.27`	`cncfanatics`	`Ominous, it is`
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`22:23.28`	`Nightdew`	`what is the best damage meter going around now?`
`22:23.33`	`Barbanus`	`Got a bug with onebank: http://ace.pastey.net/7614-10u8`
`22:23.35`	`Tornhoof`	`crowd control i guess jjsheets`
`22:23.46`	`cncfanatics`	`swstats Nightdew`
`22:23.47`	`Barbanus`	`occurs when you put Everlasting Underspore Frond in your bank when its on cooldown`
`22:24.00`	`Tornhoof`	`;)`
`22:24.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`JJSheets: not really related to cooldowns`
`22:24.20`	`JJSheets`	`Tornhoof just schooled me thanks. :p`
`22:24.33`	`Tornhoof`	`riotwatcher ;)`
`22:24.48`	`JJSheets`	`DontForkTheSheep`
`22:24.52`	`JoshBorke`	`Kaelten: i'll look at it :-)`
`22:24.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`haha`
`22:24.56`	`JJSheets`	`AreYouMyDaaaaaaaaddy`
`22:25.11`	`Kaelten`	`JoshBorke: thanks much bro :)`
`22:25.15`	`Kaelten`	`I can't atm at work`
`22:25.44`	`AKX`	`Is there a macro [option] for "if the last spell succeeded" or "the #show spell is currently castable"?`
`22:26.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`nope`
`22:26.09`	`Nightdew`	`cncfanatics: thats not an ace one is it?`
`22:26.13`	`Barbanus`	`hehe, it was an intersting one .. it makes all of the icons in my bank disapear`
`22:26.15`	`AKX`	`Any way to emulate such..?`
`22:26.17`	`Barbanus`	`I almost shat myself`
`22:26.26`	`Barbanus`	`I'm like "WTF my bank is 70% empty?!?"`
`22:26.45`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`22:27.19`	`Groll`	`cncfanatics swstats nightdew?`
`22:27.27`	`JoshBorke`	`such a long callstack!`
`22:27.44`	`AKX`	`Can /script be used to stop macro exec?`
`22:27.52`	`Nightdew`	`Groll: ..?`
`22:28.05`	`Groll`	`oh lol thought it was some new swstats thing :P`
`22:28.09`	`Barbanus`	`JoshBorke lol yea`
`22:28.18`	`Groll`	`didnt know there was someone called Nightdew in the channel :P`
`22:28.23`	`Nightdew`	`heh`
`22:28.26`	`JJSheets`	`cncfanatics, Add a GetPosition() to button interfaces. it'll make life easier. :p`
`22:28.31`	`Nightdew`	`swstats is not aced is it?`
`22:28.38`	`Groll`	`nop`
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`22:29.47`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets: FlexBar2.Buttons[i].Settings.X`
`22:29.51`	`cncfanatics`	`FlexBar2.Buttons[i].Settings.Y`
`22:30.08`	`JJSheets`	`but I wanna function! WAAAAAAAAAAH`
`22:30.17`	`cncfanatics`	`meh`
`22:30.20`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`22:30.25`	`JJSheets`	`ty`
`22:30.34`	`cncfanatics`	`FlexBar2.Buttons[i].Frame:GetPoint();`
`22:30.47`	`cncfanatics`	`don't forget to use -Y tho`
`22:30.53`	`cncfanatics`	`if u use getpoint`
`22:31.21`	`JJSheets`	`what's the size of the frames... 36 by 36?`
`22:32.01`	`cncfanatics`	`yea`
`22:32.05`	`JJSheets`	`k`
`22:32.14`	`cncfanatics`	`use HorizontalGroup and VerticalGroup to line em up auto`
`22:32.29`	`JJSheets`	`NOW you tell me. :P`
`22:33.15`	`cncfanatics`	`FlexBar2.Group.Handlers.HorizontalGroup(FlexBar2.Buttons[i]); will line a button's group horizontaly`
`22:33.17`	`CIA-18`	`03sylvanaar * r29616 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Fix double timestamp occuring as a result of trying to make a playerlink for an NPC talking`
`22:33.21`	`cncfanatics`	`in the order the buttons were added to the grp`
`22:33.31`	`JJSheets`	`How do you set number of rows?`
`22:33.35`	`JJSheets`	`or columns`
`22:33.39`	`Barbanus`	`what is MrPlow bank stack supposed to do? from the sounds of it it is supposed to stack things you have in your bank, and your bag .. into your bank... is that right?`
`22:34.06`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, can't yet :p`
`22:34.14`	`cncfanatics`	`might add a squaregroup later`
`22:34.28`	`JJSheets`	`cncfanatics, you tease.`
`22:34.34`	`cncfanatics`	`:p`
`22:34.49`	`cncfanatics`	`I pretty much just added what I needed myself for a basic UI`
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`22:35.42`	`JJSheets`	`for i = 1,14 do FlexBar2.Buttons[i]:Hide() end`
`22:35.44`	`JoshBorke`	`Barbanus: erm, i just put my frond in the bank and it didn't break`
`22:35.53`	`Barbanus`	`JoshBorke, is it on cooldown?`
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`22:35.58`	`JoshBorke`	`yea`
`22:36.03`	`JJSheets`	`:p`
`22:36.09`	`Barbanus`	`JoshBorke, hmmmm ....`
`22:36.52`	`Barbanus`	`JoshBorke, do you have any errors in bagsack at all?`
`22:36.52`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets :p no UI sucks indeed :p`
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`22:36.58`	`JJSheets`	`no columns sucks more. :)`
`22:37.05`	`Barbanus`	`must be some other mod I have causing some other issue I guess ... although the error didnt seem that way ..`
`22:37.44`	`cncfanatics`	`lol`
`22:37.54`	`cncfanatics`	`I rly need ppl to make feature requests`
`22:38.00`	`cncfanatics`	`can't think about everything myself`
`22:38.13`	`JJSheets`	`Is there a FlexBar2 post on the forums?`
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`22:38.25`	`JJSheets`	`If so I'll start throwing some in there. :)`
`22:38.51`	`cncfanatics`	`there ain't`
`22:38.57`	`cncfanatics`	`i'll make one , k ?`
`22:39.07`	`JJSheets`	`k`
`22:39.21`	`cncfanatics`	`what forum does that bellong into ? -.-`
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`22:40.30`	`JJSheets`	`the Ace 2 Addons forum. www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?board=22,0`
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`22:41.46`	`Kemayo`	`Barbanus: bank stack is supposed to fill up stacks in your bank with things from your bags. (It's currently broken, at least for me.)`
`22:42.57`	`Barbanus`	`Kemayo, yea .. its also broken for me`
`22:43.05`	`Barbanus`	`I was making sure I understood what it was supposed to do`
`22:44.07`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, I need inspiration for a forum thread bosy`
`22:44.09`	`cncfanatics`	`body*`
`22:44.10`	`cncfanatics`	`help me`
`22:44.34`	`stavmar`	`nymbia: This is an error i keep getting, I basically see the second level of items to craft but cannot get past that list. Any thoughts? http://ace.pastey.net/7732`
`22:44.54`	`stavmar`	`nymbia: I have ATSW turned off btw`
`22:46.31`	`cncfanatics`	`JJSheets, i'll make a big thread with details tomorrow, ok ?`
`22:46.35`	`JJSheets`	`k`
`22:46.42`	`JJSheets`	`was questin. :)`
`22:46.54`	`cncfanatics`	`gonna make a recap of all features yet`
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`22:52.25`	`Barbanus`	`JoshBorke, still unable to reproduce it?`
`22:52.52`	`CIA-18`	`03derkyle * r29617 10BagSync/BagSync.lua:`
`22:52.52`	`CIA-18`	`BagSync:`
`22:52.52`	`CIA-18`	`- Fixed an issue where some of the bags weren't being scanned.`
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`23:02.16`	`JoshBorke`	`Barbanus: the problem is that the Cooldown frame that OneBank is supposed to inherit wasn't inherited`
`23:02.36`	`JoshBorke`	`is what the error is saying`
`23:04.41`	`JoshBorke`	`hm`
`23:04.57`	`JoshBorke`	`let me check the difference between putting it in the bank and in a bank bag`
`23:06.35`	`JoshBorke`	`ah hah! i got it :-D`
`23:10.02`	`Barbanus`	`I think I had it in my main bank bag`
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`23:10.13`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, i got the error`
`23:10.13`	`Barbanus`	`and then all of the otehr bags would be screwed after that`
`23:10.15`	`Barbanus`	`cool`
`23:11.16`	`NeoTron`	`so weird. There are no spell hit jewels to cut`
`23:11.22`	`NeoTron`	`only ones with spell hit are epic drops`
`23:12.40`	`nevcairiel`	`there is spell penetration`
`23:12.43`	`nevcairiel`	`isnt that hit?`
`23:12.54`	`NeoTron`	`and it's really kind of suboptimal how little difference there is between green (ex: 4 spell dmg, 4 sta), blue (5 spell dmg, 6 sa) and epic (6 spell dmg, 6 sta)`
`23:12.57`	`NeoTron`	`nah`
`23:12.59`	`Barbanus`	`its BETTER than hit.`
`23:13.02`	`NeoTron`	`spell penetration is "-resist"`
`23:13.12`	`Barbanus`	`it reduces the targets resist, which increases your hits and partial resists`
`23:13.13`	`JoshBorke`	`Barbanus: i think i got it`
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`23:13.20`	`Barbanus`	`+hit doesnt reduce your partial resists`
`23:13.39`	`Barbanus`	`JoshBorke, cool`
`23:13.40`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`penetration can't completely replace +hit, though`
`23:13.46`	`JoshBorke`	`nope, broke it worse`
`23:13.51`	`kovi`	`afaik penetration is pretty useless in pve at least`
`23:13.52`	`kovi`	`-_-`
`23:13.53`	`Barbanus`	`hahaha`
`23:14.06`	`kovi`	`because it has basically no effect versus bosses`
`23:14.11`	`NeoTron`	`you need something like 17% spell hit to not get full resists on bosses`
`23:14.30`	`NeoTron`	`I imagine you need a lot of spell penetration to get any noticeable effect`
`23:14.33`	`kovi`	`you'll always have 1% chance to get a full resist`
`23:14.35`	`Barbanus`	`kovi, oh it sure does. try facing a boss without COE, and then put COE up.`
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`23:14.52`	`Barbanus`	`COE is the same mechanic as the spell penetration`
`23:15.20`	`NeoTron`	`I don't get wy jewelcrafting has zero epic crafted gems`
`23:15.43`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`you really dont need much -resist. CoE is typically enough for the most part, since resists can't go negative`
`23:15.43`	`kenlyric\|home`	`because nobody has discovered them yet?`
`23:15.59`	`NeoTron`	`someone would have discovered something by now`
`23:16.11`	`kenlyric\|home`	`really? how many guilds are in hyjal?`
`23:16.12`	`NeoTron`	`there are many epic gems`
`23:16.18`	`Barbanus`	`NightHawkTheSane, without knowing the resist amount on a boss, I cant comment`
`23:16.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`but they mostly suck`
`23:16.32`	`NeoTron`	`why would jewelcrafting need hyujal when every other profession get epix from vendors/less rare drops than taht?`
`23:16.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`since they all are unique`
`23:16.58`	`kenlyric\|home`	`NeoTron: if you want to discuss profession imbalance, that's something else. Just noting it's possible they exist :)`
`23:17.00`	`NeoTron`	`they aren't great - scaling in gems is minimal`
`23:17.12`	`NeoTron`	`they might exist but if they aren't known now they aer too rare`
`23:17.15`	`kenlyric\|home`	`gem itemization sucks.`
`23:17.24`	`NeoTron`	`how's that statment? :)`
`23:17.33`	`NeoTron`	`there are two epic jewelcrafting items`
`23:17.34`	`NeoTron`	`both suck`
`23:17.43`	`kenlyric\|home`	`vendor, uncommon, rare... in mana/5s it's 1, 2, 3. In spirit it's 4,6,8. Clearly not fair upgrade.`
`23:18.05`	Bibi`ouF	`well`
`23:18.13`	`kenlyric\|home`	`it should be 3, 6, 9, at the very least.`
`23:18.20`	`NeoTron`	`yes`
`23:18.21`	Bibi`ouF	`if you've got 10 mana gems on your gear, it's a 20 mp/5 difference between the first and the last set of gems`
`23:18.32`	`NeoTron`	Bibi`ouF: which is nothing
`23:18.42`	Bibi`ouF	`yeah, sure.`
`23:18.48`	Bibi`ouF	`who needs mana anyway !`
`23:18.51`	`Barbanus`	`20 mp5 is nothing?`
`23:19.01`	`NeoTron`	`not compared to the cost of the upgrades`
`23:19.03`	`Barbanus`	`I've got a total of 110 I think .. I'd love another 20`
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`23:19.44`	`NeoTron`	`http://www.thottbot.com/?i=54160 there's another 16 for you`
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`23:19.44`	`NeoTron`	`besides, you sacrifice quite a lot by getting all mp5 anyway`
`23:19.44`	Bibi`ouF	`well if you want to go this way`
`23:19.50`	`NeoTron`	`http://www.thottbot.com/?i=59707 http://www.thottbot.com/?i=59901`
`23:19.51`	Bibi`ouF	`http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?page=53`
`23:19.52`	`NeoTron`	`those are NOT worth it`
`23:19.54`	Bibi`ouF	`here is more for you. ^^`
`23:20.23`	Bibi`ouF	`but that's not my point here, gems are basically free equipment slots, i don't see how you can consider them as a cost`
`23:20.27`	`NeoTron`	Bibi`ouF: to a degree consumables are way too important based on itemization
`23:20.39`	`kenlyric\|home`	Bibi`ouF: my point is that it's not a fair upgrade between mana/5s and spirit.
`23:20.47`	`NeoTron`	`and today item progression from 5-mans to karazhan to gruul's lair and magtheridon is mostly nil`
`23:20.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`2% chance on spellcast to gain 45*3 mana is fucking shit`
`23:20.56`	`kenlyric\|home`	`the first gem, 1m/5s is worth 4 spirit. The rare gem, it's worth 2 spirit.`
`23:21.01`	`NeoTron`	`Arrowmaster: it's horrid`
`23:21.04`	`JoshBorke`	`Arrowmaster: hey! that dropped last night`
`23:21.08`	`kenlyric\|home`	Bibi`ouF: they are not free.
`23:21.13`	`kenlyric\|home`	`itemization cost factors in gems.`
`23:21.22`	Bibi`ouF	`because karazhan / gruul's lair and magtheridon were supposed to be of nearly equal difficulty`
`23:21.23`	`NeoTron`	`yeah`
`23:21.33`	Bibi`ouF	`but blizzard fucked up bosses as usual.`
`23:21.34`	`NeoTron`	`lol`
`23:21.42`	`kenlyric\|home`	`gems merely give you more options, so a spirit whore like me and a +healing whore can take different paths with same gear.`
`23:21.45`	`NeoTron`	`yeah, those are about equal difficulty to 5-mans`
`23:21.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`one of my guilds jewelcrafters has it and said hes never going to make one unless somebody actually comes to him with the mats`
`23:21.58`	`NeoTron`	`and of course the 5-man => heroic 5-man is basically no progression either`
`23:22.01`	`NeoTron`	`just different items`
`23:22.01`	Bibi`ouF	`and now they spends weeks making statements about "yeah we know you shouldn't have to use as much consumables in raid" and "oops magtheridon is harder than what we thought"`
`23:22.14`	`Barbanus`	`kenlyric\|home, yes .. you are correct .. it should be 1 / 2 / 3 MP5 and 4 / 8 / 12 spirit`
`23:22.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`NeoTron: haha in some of the heroics you dont even get different items`
`23:22.39`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Barbanus... I'd rather it be 4, ,16, 64 :)`
`23:22.48`	`Barbanus`	`lol kenlyric\|home, it should be consistent`
`23:22.55`	`Barbanus`	`4 spirit per 1 mp5`
`23:22.59`	`Barbanus`	`and keep it that way tehn`
`23:23.02`	Bibi`ouF	`so ... 64 instead of 8 ?`
`23:23.15`	`NeoTron`	`basically item levels don't go up as much as they should to have any reasonble gains as you upgrade gear`
`23:23.16`	Bibi`ouF	`this would make the +20 attack power gem a 160 attack power one ?`
`23:23.18`	Bibi`ouF	`k, gief.`
`23:23.20`	`eXemplar`	`spirit -> mp5 is different depending on class and how long you spend in 5sr isn't it ?`
`23:23.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`fucking cleared all of coilfang heroics yesterday and the bosses in steam vault droped the same damn shit they do on normal, except one of them didnt drop the quest item i need so i have to do it on normal again now`
`23:23.22`	`kenlyric\|home`	`wtb sarcasm detection for you two.`
`23:23.29`	`eXemplar`	`it's not a direct x:y ratio afaik`
`23:23.31`	`NeoTron`	`I mean until the ilevel 110 stuff from the pricne in karazhan, I really have no upgrades over 5-man stuff`
`23:23.32`	Bibi`ouF	`what's sarcasm ?`
`23:23.33`	`Barbanus`	`eXemplar, thats not the point`
`23:24.17`	`kenlyric\|home`	`eXemplar: not really... blizzard gives mana/healing/5s about 2.5 itemization points, vs 1 for spirit/init`
`23:24.33`	`kenlyric\|home`	`though, that's the value they give it, it's undervalued.`
`23:25.11`	`Barbanus`	`the point is that the first mp5 gem is 1 mp5, the rare one 2 mp5, and the epic one 3 mp5 ... the spirit ones currently scale at 4 / 6 / 8`
`23:25.19`	`Barbanus`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Jewel`
`23:25.20`	`eXemplar`	`well spirit can also go to +healing too, not just mp5 ?`
`23:25.41`	`kenlyric\|home`	`to get a 3 spirit = 1m/5s ratio for a priest/druid, you need to be out of the five second rule more than 50% of the time.`
`23:25.52`	`Barbanus`	`sorry .. its common / uncommon / rare .. rather`
`23:26.21`	`Barbanus`	`eXemplar, take a look at the "blue" gems on this page: http://www.wowwiki.com/Jewel`
`23:27.53`	`NeoTron`	`so going from quest reward to jewelcrafter FR necklace I can gain 6 FR but lose 12 stamin`
`23:28.15`	`NeoTron`	`and a limited Use (10 uses) that does 900-2700 fire absorb to the party`
`23:28.25`	`Barbanus`	`what do you need FR for?`
`23:28.32`	`NeoTron`	`jsut an example`
`23:28.44`	`NeoTron`	`I think Magtheridon but I haven't done anything where I need it yet`
`23:28.54`	`NeoTron`	`I made one to skill up`
`23:30.50`	`NeoTron`	`at least other than fire, the resist necklaces are rather unusual`
`23:31.38`	vid`	`anyone know a mod that lets you move the world pvp objective frame?`
`23:31.43`	vid`	`mines off center in my UI`
`23:31.44`	`NeoTron`	`http://www.thottbot.com/?i=60296`
`23:31.46`	vid`	`and its driving me nuts :P`
`23:32.14`	`NeoTron`	`so you get a FR ring from ... an FR-raid encounter (if FR is indeed needed)`
`23:32.23`	`kenlyric\|home`	`really, I think the solution to is to devalue spirit, like they did withs tamina. Maybe not quite as much of a devalue... but make it worth .9 or .85, rather than 1.`
`23:32.26`	`N-NmE`	`its not.`
`23:32.51`	`N-NmE`	`without spoiling too much, i can safely say that FR might be needed in TK: Eye`
`23:33.01`	`kenlyric\|home`	`spoiling?`
`23:33.03`	`Barbanus`	`it is ...`
`23:33.05`	`kenlyric\|home`	`lol, like it's the movies.`
`23:33.11`	`Barbanus`	`it is used in TK:Eye :P`
`23:33.17`	`Barbanus`	`hense why they are giving you that ring ...`
`23:33.27`	`Barbanus`	`"Four trials you must pass before you are deemed worthy of the Tempest key."`
`23:33.56`	`JoshBorke`	`la di da`
`23:33.58`	`JoshBorke`	`almost got it`
`23:40.41`	`N-NmE`	`was merely replying to [NeoTron]`
`23:40.41`	`Barbanus`	`lol interesting bug JoshBorke?`
`23:40.41`	`NeoTron`	`ok`
`23:40.41`	`NeoTron`	`I haven't heard much about Magtheridon for sure`
`23:40.42`	`kenlyric\|home`	`you shall not pass!`
`23:40.42`	`chutwig`	`"take my blood and choke on it" definitely makes me think of other things`
`23:40.42`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I don't even know how to do him.. I'm not sure anyone on our server has tried.`
`23:40.42`	`JoshBorke`	`meh, it was a typo in the XML file =/`
`23:40.42`	`kenlyric\|home`	`all I've heard is... wait for the nerf :)`
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`23:40.43`	`Cartas`	`NeoTron:`
`23:40.44`	`Cartas`	`We just downed him :)`
`23:40.44`	`Cartas`	`Third in the world :P`
`23:40.44`	`Barbanus`	`JoshBorke, that was it?`
`23:40.45`	`Cartas`	`It's a long fight :\|`
`23:40.45`	`JoshBorke`	`Barbanus: yea`
`23:40.45`	`Barbanus`	`hahaha`
`23:40.45`	`Barbanus`	`thats awesome :P`
`23:40.45`	`NeoTron`	`Cartas: grats :)`
`23:40.46`	`NeoTron`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28789 is weird`
`23:40.46`	`Cartas`	`Thanks old chap! :D`
`23:40.46`	`Barbanus`	`I love when you dig in the code for 20 mins to find out that its something simple as hell`
`23:40.47`	`NeoTron`	`so do I go for not having spell hit (to get more procS) or what? :)`
`23:40.48`	`Cartas`	`I'll see if what we got is online...`
`23:40.48`	`Cartas`	`Nope!`
`23:40.48`	`Cartas`	`I'll be uploading it to WoWhead though :)`
`23:40.48`	`Barbanus`	`do it!`
`23:40.48`	`Barbanus`	`then link it :P`
`23:40.48`	`CIA-18`	`03joshborke * r29618 10OneBag/templates.xml: OneBag - fixed a typo in the OneBank template, model ~= Cooldown`
`23:40.48`	`Cartas`	`It'll take a day or so, I think.`
`23:40.48`	`Cartas`	`I got a polearm for 1DKP though...`
`23:40.49`	`Cartas`	`(I'm a prot specced tank!)`
`23:40.49`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`23:40.49`	`Cartas`	`Yeh, 'twas rubbish.`
`23:40.49`	`Barbanus`	`Thanks Josh`
`23:40.49`	`Cartas`	`A pink shield for paladins/shaman also.`
`23:40.49`	`Barbanus`	`Appreciate it`
`23:40.49`	`NeoTron`	`Cartas: what guild are you in?`
`23:40.49`	`Cartas`	`Last Resort.`
`23:40.49`	`Cartas`	`www.lrguild.org :)`
`23:40.49`	`JoshBorke`	`np, just trying to help Kaelten out by lightening his load`
`23:40.49`	`kenlyric\|home`	`heh, dkp already?`
`23:40.49`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I'm gonna miss /roll :)`
`23:40.50`	`Kaelten`	`heh, my load? lighten? not likely.`
`23:40.50`	`NeoTron`	`man when he's dead there's not much to look at is there?`
`23:40.51`	`N-NmE`	`zzzz`
`23:40.51`	`N-NmE`	`why is everyone using KTM?`
`23:40.51`	`Cartas`	`lol, NeoTron! :)`
`23:40.52`	`Cartas`	`There's not much to look at in the fight, as it so happens.`
`23:40.52`	`JoshBorke`	`it's basically a weaken him and survive`
`23:40.52`	`JoshBorke`	`not realyl, i'm just pulling stuff out of my butt :-P`
`23:40.52`	`Cartas`	`It's true.`
`23:41.30`	`N-NmE`	`its piss easy`
`23:41.30`	`Cartas`	`'Tis!`
`23:41.30`	`N-NmE`	`cant believe they wanna nerf him`
`23:41.30`	`Cartas`	`The only hard part is getting the first phase right.`
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`23:41.30`	`N-NmE`	`no`
`23:41.30`	`kenlyric\|home`	`yes yes, all fights are easy, easysauce carebear, wildhammer online, etc.`
`23:41.30`	`N-NmE`	`the hard part is finding 25 ppl that can figure out how to click an or`
`23:41.30`	`N-NmE`	`or`
`23:41.30`	`N-NmE`	`orb`
`23:41.30`	`N-NmE`	`!`
`23:41.31`	`Barbanus`	`Cartas, is that your UI in the pic? :)`
`23:41.31`	`Cartas`	`Ewww, no way.`
`23:41.32`	`NeoTron`	`N-NmE: easy for guilds like Nihilim doesn't mean easy for more than 1% of the player base`
`23:41.35`	`Cartas`	`That's a disgraceful UI.`
`23:41.48`	`N-NmE`	`have you tried the fight NeoTron ? :)`
`23:41.50`	`Barbanus`	`haha good :P`
`23:41.52`	`chuckg`	`It's hard not clicking twice, huh NmE?`
`23:42.07`	`NeoTron`	`No I have not`
`23:42.08`	`N-NmE`	`well, its thaddius 2.0`
`23:42.11`	`NeoTron`	`still working on Karazhan`
`23:42.15`	`chuckg`	`Or moving to the assigned location when you have 10s of warning.`
`23:42.16`	`chuckg`	`D=`
`23:42.16`	`N-NmE`	`1 guy can, and will wipe you`
`23:42.19`	`N-NmE`	`over and over again`
`23:42.21`	`kenlyric\|home`	`good thing you got that devotion aura at the end... ;)`
`23:42.36`	`Cartas`	`It's not me, kenlyric\|home! :P`
`23:42.40`	`Cartas`	`I'm Cartas!`
`23:42.55`	`Cartas`	`That UI really does sicken me also... :S`
`23:42.59`	`N-NmE`	`well NeoTron > when you try the fight, you will quickly realise that its not really hard`
`23:43.02`	`Barbanus`	`devo aura does have a range btw :P`
`23:43.04`	`N-NmE`	`since there is no trick to it`
`23:43.05`	`N-NmE`	`at all`
`23:43.14`	`kenlyric\|home`	`yeah, thanks for the tip.`
`23:43.20`	`Cartas`	`First phase is tough.`
`23:43.22`	`Cartas`	`That's really it :P`
`23:43.25`	`N-NmE`	`and magtheridon himself is a joke`
`23:43.28`	`Barbanus`	`kenlyric\|home, you are welcome! :P`
`23:43.42`	`NeoTron`	`I haven't done a 25-man raid yet`
`23:43.55`	`NeoTron`	`the guild I am in suffered a split post-BC and are lacking in some spots (`
`23:44.05`	`Barbanus`	`We downed the King in Gruuls lair yesterday`
`23:44.08`	`NeoTron`	`we're recruiting (Kilrogg-US, 9pm-1am PST.. :)`
`23:44.15`	`Cartas`	`Gruul is very very tough, Barbanus :)`
`23:44.20`	`kenlyric\|home`	`1 am? zzzz`
`23:44.34`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I'm in fluffy pillows by then`
`23:44.36`	`Barbanus`	`Cartas, so I have heard`
`23:44.50`	`Barbanus`	`I think we are trying Nightbane again tonight`
`23:44.55`	`Cartas`	`Ah :)`
`23:45.07`	`Cartas`	`He's just damned annoying.`
`23:45.07`	`Barbanus`	`we got him through 1 transition the first night we attempted him`
`23:45.08`	`NeoTron`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=79825991&postId=798299439&sid=1`
`23:45.08`	`Barbanus`	`once we get that down .. we are golden`
`23:45.12`	`Cartas`	`Bugs and such, I think.`
`23:45.24`	`Cartas`	`Like, he'll land, start casting fear, then instantly fly off to land again :\|`
`23:45.29`	`Barbanus`	`well we didnt know what to expect coming in ...`
`23:45.34`	`Barbanus`	`and yea .. thats what happened to us`
`23:45.36`	`Barbanus`	`and wiped us`
`23:45.43`	`Cartas`	`Wiped us a couple of times too :(`
`23:45.59`	`Barbanus`	`we had a perfect phase 1 to 2 to 1 transition .. and then got that crap`
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`23:46.58`	`Barbanus`	`took me a couple attempts to figure out the best way to tank him for phase 2 :)`
`23:47.33`	`Barbanus`	`drawing healing aggro as a paladin :)`
`23:47.42`	`Cartas`	`:)`
`23:47.57`	`Jygga`	`maiden wiped us yesterday -.-`
`23:48.02`	`Barbanus`	`fun fight tho`
`23:48.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`wtf is this blue bubble i keep seeing alliance having around them`
`23:48.25`	`Barbanus`	`in blades edge?`
`23:48.29`	`JoshBorke`	`do they walk slow?`
`23:48.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`somebody is inside one in shattrath right now`
`23:48.52`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, it's a quest out in blade's edge`
`23:48.52`	`Barbanus`	`you get a quest item in blade edge that does that .. and it makes you walk really slow`
`23:48.59`	`Jygga`	`somebody got a good guide how to down the maiden?`
`23:49.04`	`Jygga`	`does*`
`23:49.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`is it alliance only?`
`23:49.09`	`Herio`	`maiden?`
`23:49.10`	`JoshBorke`	`make her life go to 0 before your's`
`23:49.12`	`Barbanus`	`Jygga, do you have a paladin?`
`23:49.17`	`Herio`	`how many warriors do you have?`
`23:49.22`	`Jygga`	`we got a pala in raid ye`
`23:49.36`	`Barbanus`	`make sure he blessing of sac's a melee dps`
`23:49.40`	`Barbanus`	`and keeps it up`
`23:49.47`	`Barbanus`	`so that it breaks the repetence`
`23:49.57`	`Jygga`	`you can break repetence? ^^`
`23:49.59`	`Barbanus`	`make sure your cleansers are on the ball`
`23:50.02`	`Herio`	`or only keeps it up when repentance is imminent =)`
`23:50.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`Barbanus: whats the quest item called?`
`23:50.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`or quest`
`23:50.16`	`Herio`	`Jygga: how many warriors?`
`23:50.19`	`Barbanus`	`blessing of sac transfers 40 some odd damage from the person it is on, to the paladin`
`23:50.24`	`Jygga`	`2`
`23:50.31`	`Barbanus`	`damage breaks the repentence`
`23:50.43`	`Herio`	`have the one who's not tanking stand out of melee, but closer then everyone else`
`23:50.43`	`Barbanus`	`and the melee are taking conscecration damage`
`23:50.50`	`Barbanus`	`so the paladin will break out right away`
`23:50.53`	`Herio`	`he'll get all of the holyfires, which he can spell reflect`
`23:51.15`	`Jygga`	`is she throwing chain lightnig to the next best target other than the aggro holder?`
`23:51.18`	`vhaarr`	`It's simple. A priest walks in to her aura 5sec before repetance cooldown and stays in until it breaks.`
`23:51.22`	`vhaarr`	`And you win.`
`23:51.25`	`Herio`	`uhm`
`23:51.27`	`Herio`	`spread out`
`23:51.29`	`Herio`	`in a circle`
`23:51.34`	`Herio`	`evenly spaced`
`23:51.38`	`Herio`	`use the pillars`
`23:51.49`	`Barbanus`	`vhaarr, that works too .. but we just use bless of sac from the paladin on a melee`
`23:52.04`	`Jygga`	`ye we did that but then our healers were not that effective on burst from chain lightning`
`23:52.06`	`Herio`	`we had a pally use sac and a druid jump in, I think`
`23:52.13`	`Jygga`	`but it was the first try so we still got hope ^^`
`23:52.15`	`Herio`	`IT SHOULD NOT CHAIN`
`23:52.18`	`Herio`	`SPREAD OUT`
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`23:53.02`	`Barbanus`	`Yea, assign someone between each set of pillars if you need to`
`23:53.09`	`Barbanus`	`if they arent smart enough to do it themselves`
`23:53.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`the holy wrath will target people at range, i was standing all the way against the outer wall and got 1shot for 9k on the 3rd chain of a holy wrath`
`23:53.16`	`Barbanus`	`they should all be on the edge of the circle too`
`23:53.24`	`Barbanus`	`and the tank should tank her in the dead center`
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`23:53.45`	`Jygga`	`well we wiped at the first try due to 38k/23k/19k holy dmg holy dmg`
`23:53.51`	`Herio`	`uhm`
`23:53.54`	`Herio`	`don't let it chain`
`23:53.59`	`Barbanus`	`if you are getting holy wrath chains .. you need to spread out`
`23:54.03`	`Herio`	`spread out in a circle around her`
`23:54.05`	`Barbanus`	`you should not get them ...`
`23:54.11`	`Herio`	`srsly`
`23:54.11`	`Herio`	`ever done c'thun?`
`23:54.15`	`Jygga`	`nope`
`23:54.19`	`Jygga`	`never been to AQ ^^`
`23:54.22`	`Barbanus`	`heh`
`23:54.26`	`Herio`	`it's the same idea`
`23:54.39`	`Barbanus`	`Jygga, have the tank tank her in the middle of the circle .. assign someone between each pillar`
`23:54.42`	`Herio`	`you need to spread out, or else that shit will chain and you get more damage every jump`
`23:54.50`	`Barbanus`	`have the melee attack her from separate sides`
`23:54.51`	`Barbanus`	`and you win`
`23:55.11`	`Jygga`	`hum seemed like it chained endless really, so that spreading out seems like a good idea ^^`
`23:55.11`	`NeoTron`	`surefire way to kill maiden: bring 3 paladin healers :P`
`23:55.15`	`Barbanus`	`if you get a chain, wipe it .. do it again until you dont get a chain ...`
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`23:55.29`	`Barbanus`	`you should never get one :P`
`23:55.40`	`Barbanus`	`I believe its 10 yards it chains`
`23:55.48`	`Jygga`	`so shes only throwing the chain when more than x people hug each other?`
`23:55.56`	`NeoTron`	`the holy shock can be eaten by a warrior outside the consecration. add a shaman with a totem to lessen the damage load`
`23:56.00`	`break19`	`what about whips?`
`23:56.02`	`NeoTron`	`nah`
`23:56.04`	`Herio`	`no`
`23:56.08`	`NeoTron`	`it only chains when people are close`
`23:56.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`if you all stand on the outside of the octagon she starts on and have the tank put her right where she started it wont chain to the ranged`
`23:56.12`	`NeoTron`	`otherwise it hits one person`
`23:56.25`	`Barbanus`	`what arrow said :P`
`23:56.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`it will chain on the melee though`
`23:56.25`	`break19`	`ok, I hear the discussion about chains, but I wanna know about whips too`
`23:56.38`	`Barbanus`	`yea .. it chains on the melee, but its not a big deal`
`23:56.43`	`Barbanus`	`that easy to heal though`
`23:57.39`	`Jygga`	`ok i guess i should post some strat on forums before we go therenext time ^^`
`23:58.08`	`Jygga`	`oh btw, havent seen a better dessou commercial ever: http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=swf&file=ww_video.swf`
`23:58.15`	`Jygga`	`^^`
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