| 00:00.28 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31224 10PitBull/PvP/PvP.lua: PitBull-PvP - only create texture when you're in PvP, recycle otherwise |
| 00:01.27 | ckknight | it's stuff like that that makes PitBull efficient ;-) |
| 00:01.33 | ckknight | why do you need a PvP icon if you're not in PvP? |
| 00:01.57 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31225 10PitBull/ (Leader/ Leader/Leader.lua PitBull.toc): PitBull - add Leader module |
| 00:02.00 | ckknight | leader module coming up, it does the same thing |
| 00:02.19 | ckknight | so at any one time, you'll only have one leader texture |
| 00:02.22 | NeoTron | still want to know how they look >:-) |
| 00:02.36 | ckknight | looks like agUF |
| 00:04.36 | Kemayo | ckknight: One coming up for rested? :D |
| 00:04.46 | ckknight | yea, that was the plan |
| 00:05.43 | NeoTron | doesn't agUF look very differently depending on how it's set up? :P |
| 00:07.08 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 00:08.47 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:08.56 | ckknight | technically PitBull only has the ABF theme, though |
| 00:09.41 | NeoTron | once 2.1.0 comes out I really want to figure out which addons suck and which don't.. |
| 00:10.23 | NightHawkTheSane | is it (relatively) easy to add new layouts now? or is that still in progress? |
| 00:10.43 | NeoTron | nothing beats DUF for customization |
| 00:10.54 | NightHawkTheSane | or inefficiency! |
| 00:11.00 | NeoTron | that is true |
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| 00:11.48 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: it's very, very easy to add new layouts |
| 00:11.52 | ckknight | go ahead if you want. |
| 00:12.06 | Mikma | ooh that's sexy |
| 00:12.08 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, maybe I will. |
| 00:12.10 | Mikma | lvl ?? mechanical |
| 00:12.25 | Mikma | Fel Reaver |
| 00:12.34 | NeoTron | ckknight: assume you do it with an edior rather than gui? |
| 00:13.33 | ckknight | yes. |
| 00:13.52 | ckknight | NeoTron: you actually do it by manipulating the frame itself |
| 00:14.00 | ckknight | with :SetPoint, :SetWidth, :SetHeight, etc. |
| 00:17.56 | NeoTron | so flexible, of course, but not luser friendly |
| 00:18.06 | NightHawkTheSane | who cares about them? :P |
| 00:18.16 | ckknight | yea, I know I don't |
| 00:18.32 | ckknight | and due to the fact that it's directly in lua, you can have if statements and such without hassle |
| 00:20.00 | kergoth | given that flexibility, someone could easily write a supplementary addon that lets the user define layouts in game, if they desired that |
| 00:20.44 | NightHawkTheSane | honestly, the challenge of making a sane interface for defining unit frame layout within wow... i'm skeptical anyone could pull that off |
| 00:22.22 | ckknight | basically, it's flexible enough so that by knowing the existence of other frames, you have so much more power |
| 00:22.25 | NeoTron | DUF was sane enough. it gets very complex though |
| 00:22.32 | ckknight | i.e. if the portrait is showing, do something else |
| 00:22.38 | ckknight | e.g.* |
| 00:24.23 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31226 10PitBull/ (PitBull.toc Rest/ Rest/Rest.lua): PitBull - add Rest module |
| 00:25.33 | *** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@c-71-206-92-120.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 00:28.50 | nymbia | ckknight: there's also master looter icon.. and is the combat icon in there already? |
| 00:29.03 | ckknight | adding combat |
| 00:31.35 | sylvanaar | nyak delete presets.lua from the module folder |
| 00:33.26 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar * r31227 10Prat/modules/Presets.lua: Prat: dummy file |
| 00:33.47 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r31228 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.lua: |
| 00:33.47 | CIA-11 | PitBull_EstimatedHeals: |
| 00:33.47 | CIA-11 | - Make sure heal bar hides properly. |
| 00:34.00 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r31229 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Tracker/Tracker.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Missing closing quote on line 37 in koKR localization. |
| 00:35.43 | Kemayo | Oh, for a luac -p pre-commit hook... |
| 00:37.58 | ckknight | I agree |
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| 00:42.11 | Ozzwald|BoB | w00t! C&C3 |
| 00:45.03 | kergoth | Kemayo: wouldnt be hard to set up |
| 00:45.34 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r31230 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.lua: |
| 00:45.34 | CIA-11 | PitBull_EstimatedHeals: |
| 00:45.34 | CIA-11 | - Don't behave weird when retargeting mid-heal. |
| 00:50.58 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31231 10PitBull/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:50.58 | CIA-11 | PitBull - added :IterateNonWackyUnitFrames() |
| 00:50.58 | CIA-11 | - added Combat module |
| 00:50.58 | CIA-11 | - bugfix to Rest |
| 00:53.35 | Gngsk | Wacky? |
| 00:54.04 | ckknight | Gngsk: nonstandard |
| 00:54.08 | ckknight | i.e. targettarget |
| 00:54.13 | Gngsk | ahh |
| 00:54.56 | kergoth | wonder how hard it would be to add a pettarget frame to pitbull |
| 00:55.00 | kergoth | probably straightforward |
| 00:55.41 | Mikma | you can do it nicky, bite his freakinmg head off! |
| 00:57.27 | kergoth | ckknight: i presume the ability to change things like scale via the dewdrop is coming at some point? i dont like the targettarget being as big as the rest :) |
| 00:58.17 | NightHawkTheSane | couldnt you set scale in the layout? |
| 00:58.18 | kergoth | nifty, thats painless |
| 00:58.20 | kergoth | yup |
| 00:58.23 | kergoth | thats why i started reading it :) |
| 00:58.27 | NightHawkTheSane | :D |
| 00:58.45 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:58.54 | NightHawkTheSane | of course, that wouldnt really allow for users to scale things appropriately to their UI size |
| 00:59.22 | NightHawkTheSane | would it be possible to set a "global" scale via the dewdrop, and have it scale the rest of the frames relatively? |
| 00:59.38 | kergoth | abf doesnt seem to show a layout feature to do scaling though, all the elements seem to be specific elements of the frame, not the frame itself |
| 00:59.45 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 01:00.22 | nymbia | could do it with GetParent() but that's hacky |
| 01:01.00 | NeoTron | kergoth: that's something I've missed |
| 01:01.12 | NeoTron | then you can easier have the pet seduce something while I focus banish or fear something else |
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| 01:02.18 | ckknight | nymbia: no need |
| 01:02.29 | ckknight | nymbia: frame, which is provided, is all you need |
| 01:02.32 | break19 | ckknight, just as I'd begin to get used to pitbull, I noticed.. there's no indication of combo points.. and long unit names arent truncated (with the default layout that is) heh |
| 01:02.39 | nymbia | ckknight: nice :) |
| 01:02.44 | ckknight | break19: update. |
| 01:02.50 | ckknight | break19: haven't done combo points yet |
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| 01:03.21 | break19 | ckknight: kk, just was makin sure you werent forgettin somethin :) |
| 01:03.33 | ckknight | I'm neither a rogue nor a druid |
| 01:03.36 | ckknight | it's not high priority |
| 01:03.40 | Fin | don't *suppose* there are any screenshots that include Pitbull floating around, eh? |
| 01:03.58 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r31232 10SacredBuff_Mounts/SacredBuff_Mounts.toc: |
| 01:03.58 | CIA-11 | SacredBuff_Mounts: |
| 01:03.58 | CIA-11 | * Attempt to fix a 'library not found' error |
| 01:03.59 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: you can make a level1 rogue to test it pretty easily, and for rogue/druid.. it can be a very high priority. :P |
| 01:04.21 | ckknight | I know |
| 01:04.23 | break19 | <- plays a rogue. and yea.. it's pretty high for me. lol |
| 01:04.33 | kergoth | NeoTron: yeah.. you can use focus of course, but pettarget would still be useful. i've been wanting it on my hunter so i can track my pet's health vs his target's health while i'm on another mob |
| 01:04.50 | break19 | luckily, I use bliz sct and have combo points shown there too. but I like info overload :) |
| 01:05.10 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r31233 10SacredBuff_Mounts/SacredBuff_Mounts.toc: |
| 01:05.10 | CIA-11 | SacredBuff_Mounts: |
| 01:05.10 | CIA-11 | * Okay, really fixing the 'library not found' error |
| 01:05.21 | kergoth | break19: you could use kEnergy as your ticker, or another similar addon, that shows the combo points on or near the ticker bar |
| 01:06.34 | ckknight | NeoTron: PitBull:CreateUnitFrame("pettarget") |
| 01:06.37 | Arrowmaster | this is soo scary |
| 01:06.40 | Arrowmaster | http://worldofwarcraft.com/toplist/index.html?en,questcomplete |
| 01:06.49 | Arrowmaster | put it on 7 days and look at the first entry |
| 01:06.50 | break19 | kergoth: never used an energy ticker. cant really see the point honestly. |
| 01:07.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: are you honestly surprised? |
| 01:08.01 | Gngsk | break19, energy tickers are great for opening right as tick goes off so you have max energy |
| 01:08.02 | Arrowmaster | a litle |
| 01:09.04 | break19 | Gngsk: i'm familiar with the concept, but, not really my thing. |
| 01:09.06 | Micron_WoW | that is a large number of bloodelves |
| 01:09.20 | Gngsk | break19, then you see the point. honestly |
| 01:09.29 | Micron_WoW | but I think the starting zone quests hae always topped the charts |
| 01:10.03 | Arrowmaster | but 1st for the last 7 days is still scary |
| 01:10.08 | break19 | <- long time mudder before wow, and lots of people used all kinds of regen ticker scripts to attack right after.. me.. i found it to be no more than a gimmick, and not worth the hassle |
| 01:10.49 | Gngsk | yeah, it's nice for farming but that's about it |
| 01:11.01 | Arrowmaster | i got such a laugh out of the crafted items page, soul shards at 4mil, conjured water at 1mil |
| 01:11.04 | kenlyric | it used to be the human starting zone. |
| 01:11.26 | kenlyric | in fact the entire defias organization tops the charts of the most killed mobs. |
| 01:11.29 | break19 | <- just spams my keyboard buttons heh |
| 01:13.34 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r31234 10SacredBuff/ (SacredBuff.lua UI.lua): |
| 01:13.34 | CIA-11 | SacredBuff: |
| 01:13.34 | CIA-11 | * Made a few negligible optimizations to the 'OnUpdate' script |
| 01:14.55 | kergoth | i dont spam, i depend on good timing. the only time i mash a key is the second i know the tick is coming in, so that no time whatsoever is wasted |
| 01:16.14 | break19 | kergoth: as do I, but occassionally, lag messes up the timer I use in my head. :p |
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| 01:16.31 | theSTORMisHERE | hi |
| 01:16.45 | ckknight | hey theSTORMisHERE |
| 01:16.52 | ckknight | theSTORMisHERE: you shouldn't shout so much |
| 01:16.53 | break19 | or my math is off, and i'll get some energy, just not enough to pull off the move i was wanting. |
| 01:17.18 | kergoth | break19: thats why i wrote kenergy to adjust the tick time to your overall latency, it maintains a running average. i only very rarely screw it up, usually if theres an unusual lag spike that it couldnt anticipate |
| 01:17.34 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:17.48 | kergoth | unitframe positioning with pitbull seems .. odd.. at least after changing the scales |
| 01:18.17 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31235 10PitBull/ (6 files in 5 dirs): |
| 01:18.17 | CIA-11 | PitBull - random bugfixes to modules |
| 01:18.18 | CIA-11 | - added MasterLooter module |
| 01:18.22 | kergoth | ckknight: thought about how to handle layout switching? perhaps give a layout a way to 'undo' its actions? i just added a new layout that adjusts the scale, but naturally the stock abf doesnt set it to 1.0, so the scale remains when you go back |
| 01:18.25 | ckknight | I haven't messed with scale yet |
| 01:18.35 | ckknight | oh, lemme fix that, kergoth |
| 01:18.37 | theSTORMisHERE | r these bots? |
| 01:18.45 | theSTORMisHERE | i need some help with addons and stuff |
| 01:19.05 | nymbia | yes, all bots. |
| 01:19.07 | kergoth | i assume you just need to forcably set most of the frame parameters to some default somewhere, and didnt include scale |
| 01:19.09 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31236 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - set scale to 1 by default for layouts |
| 01:19.12 | ckknight | all of us are bots |
| 01:19.17 | nymbia | no humans at all |
| 01:19.31 | Micron_WoW | thankfully these bots pass the turning test |
| 01:19.31 | ckknight | well, except break19, we're not sure about him |
| 01:19.36 | ckknight | Turing test. |
| 01:19.42 | break19 | moop meep |
| 01:19.55 | Micron_WoW | yes well, this bot is a clumsy typist as well |
| 01:20.13 | ckknight | thus creating even more of an illusion of humanity! |
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| 01:21.05 | Micron_WoW | Indeed, prehaps one day I will be updated to include proper chat speak as well, nowz I r bot 4 real. |
| 01:21.14 | ckknight | lolzors. |
| 01:21.34 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:21.59 | kergoth | wonder if thats intended, the auras in ABF are aligned to the full frame including the highlight, so it looks like they hang beyond the left edge of the frame when that unit isnt selected / moused over |
| 01:22.11 | kergoth | thats how it seems anyway |
| 01:22.18 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah i noticed that |
| 01:22.20 | NightHawkTheSane | it kind of irked me |
| 01:22.42 | NightHawkTheSane | but i just vastly dislike that method of dispalying auras anywya |
| 01:22.45 | Fisker- | i hate it when i puke out my nose :( |
| 01:22.47 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31237 10PitBull/ (Leader/Leader.lua MasterLooter/MasterLooter.lua): PitBull - fixes to Leader and MasterLooter module, to make it work when leaving a party |
| 01:23.02 | kergoth | i still want the branch buffalo to stabilize |
| 01:23.09 | kergoth | since you can display buffs for any unit at all with it |
| 01:23.12 | ckknight | kergoth: it is, it makes more sense if you put on a border |
| 01:23.21 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:23.43 | ckknight | the highlight is just :SetAllPoints |
| 01:24.15 | kergoth | ah, right |
| 01:24.24 | Kemayo | ckknight: No way to change maxHeight or minWidth on a tablet after it's registered, right? |
| 01:24.34 | ckknight | prolly not |
| 01:24.43 | kergoth | should make the layout more intelligent, based on your current border pref. if no border, then shfit the auras over a little |
| 01:24.45 | ckknight | oh yea, I didn't code that in cause it'd be a total bitch |
| 01:24.50 | Arrowmaster | lol you can fish in shadowmoon valley, guess now we need to figure out the min fishing for the zone to put it in tourist |
| 01:24.55 | kergoth | <3 pitbull layouts using functions |
| 01:25.01 | ckknight | kergoth: or maybe shift em over naturally |
| 01:25.11 | ckknight | kergoth: I really thought having it function-based is the best |
| 01:25.20 | ckknight | kergoth: take a look at the Rest module's layout function |
| 01:26.48 | ckknight | or MasterLooter's |
| 01:26.56 | ckknight | it's because of stuff like that that makes it awesome |
| 01:27.09 | kergoth | cute, adjusting based on what other modules are there |
| 01:27.40 | ckknight | right. |
| 01:27.53 | ckknight | imagine how simple it'd be to add portrait support with that |
| 01:27.55 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 01:29.35 | Fisker- | what about you guys do you hate puking out your nose? |
| 01:31.11 | Fin | it's a shame that a simple request has to be padded with disclaimers and preemptive explanations for some bits of the net |
| 01:36.51 | ckknight | Fisker-: the burning afterwards |
| 01:36.56 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 01:37.15 | Fisker- | plus you're sneezing out small chunks :x |
| 01:37.47 | Fin | I get very bad hayfever |
| 01:38.04 | Fin | and I'm allergic to apples |
| 01:38.13 | Fin | I used to love apples when I was a kid, now I'm allergic to them |
| 01:38.20 | ckknight | took that bible story a little too seriously? |
| 01:38.23 | Fin | never understood how that can happen |
| 01:38.34 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r31238 10QuestsFu_Detached/: QuestsFu_Detached: Created folder because I can't be bothered to reboot my computer to make TortoiseSVN notice autoprops. |
| 01:38.37 | Fin | er... sorry, I'm not up on my bible - which story? |
| 01:38.55 | Fisker- | the adam and eve one |
| 01:39.22 | ckknight | Eve took a bite of the apple and were thus banished from the Garden of Eden |
| 01:39.30 | nymbia | ckknight: wtb api func to iterate the allFrames table |
| 01:39.31 | Fisker- | i.e. pwned |
| 01:40.03 | ckknight | nymbia: you don't need it. |
| 01:40.09 | ckknight | why do you need it? |
| 01:40.53 | Fin | ohhh THAT story, of course |
| 01:40.56 | theSTORMisHERE | can i get some help plzz |
| 01:41.09 | Fin | well I suppose I might look a little like the reference model Man |
| 01:41.31 | ckknight | theSTORMisHERE: you haven't said what your problem is, and your name is annoying |
| 01:41.36 | ckknight | stop shouting |
| 01:42.14 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r31239 10QuestsFu_Detached/ (. Detached.lua QuestsFu_Detached.toc): QuestsFu_Detached: Initial import. Improved "detached tooltip" for QuestsFu. |
| 01:42.22 | Fin | I'm willing to entertain the idea that similarities between Man v1 and myself is related to my allergies |
| 01:43.32 | ckknight | I find the Garden of Eden story depressing |
| 01:43.46 | ckknight | it means that Humanity was once great and has been on a downward spiral |
| 01:43.55 | ckknight | instead of trying to better ourselves, we fucked things up |
| 01:44.11 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: er, yeah? that's more or less the pattern of human history |
| 01:44.22 | ckknight | I like my religion better :-P |
| 01:44.42 | kergoth | i dont like belief systems founded on guilt and fear, myself |
| 01:45.21 | nymbia | ckknight: you're right, i dont need it ;) |
| 01:45.24 | kergoth | also, if a god says that by not believing in him without evidence, i go to hell, he can fuck himself, i'd rather not spend eternity with him, i'll go to hell instead |
| 01:45.47 | ckknight | my religion is based around us being the masters of our own destiny, in all respects |
| 01:45.49 | NightHawkTheSane | hallowed are the ori? |
| 01:46.10 | Fin | it is a bit twisted, I mean if anyone acted like that in real life they'd be locked up |
| 01:46.16 | Fin | god's nuts if he does exist |
| 01:46.38 | Fin | someone should do a psychological analysis of his behaviour |
| 01:46.41 | kergoth | i'd rather a god encourage our ability to think rationally, not encourage blind belief |
| 01:47.10 | Fin | like that one they did about corporations - if corporations are legally people (which they are), what kind of people are they? turns out, psychotic, single minded, sociopaths |
| 01:47.29 | Fin | with no respect for the law |
| 01:47.40 | Fin | god might just be nuts though |
| 01:48.03 | ckknight | gods and corporations aren't too dissimilar |
| 01:48.16 | Fin | have to say however, some of the most interesting discussions I've had have been with smart religious people (mostly christians, but that just shows a bit of my background) |
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| 01:49.09 | Fin | ages ago, I kept pushing one guy about why he believed in god, and he wrote a bit essay like answer to my question using the infinite monkeys thing |
| 01:49.12 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31240 10PitBull/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:49.12 | CIA-11 | PitBull - add RaidTarget module |
| 01:49.12 | CIA-11 | - fix bug with :SetScale |
| 01:49.16 | Mikma | lol |
| 01:49.20 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: indeed. neither are held accountable for their actions, and both employ people mindlessly. |
| 01:49.22 | ckknight | Fin: infinite monkeys? |
| 01:49.25 | Mikma | i was just about to say that setscale bug |
| 01:50.25 | Fin | ckknight: hang on, I think he put it online somewhere |
| 01:50.42 | Fin | ckknight: http://www.nutters.org/docs/monkeys |
| 01:50.55 | Fin | (that's not my site btw) |
| 01:51.08 | NightHawkTheSane | really? cause it seems like it'd be yours |
| 01:51.10 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 01:52.46 | Fin | bah |
| 01:53.04 | Fin | it's quite an interesting argument, the guy's not an idiot |
| 01:53.14 | Mikma | ckknight: wanna hear a pitbull bug? |
| 01:53.19 | ckknight | sure |
| 01:53.25 | Fin | Mikma: woof woof! |
| 01:53.41 | Mikma | i targeted myself, got myself as target+tot. opened worldmap (original worldmap) and closed it: |
| 01:54.08 | ckknight | k |
| 01:54.21 | Mikma | PitBull.lua:WatchdogTags.lua:642: AceEvent-2.0: Bad argument #2 to 'UnregisterBucketEvent' (string or table expected, got nil) |
| 01:54.38 | *** join/#wowace xlvii (n=Tim@CPE-144-136-157-109.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 01:54.43 | Mikma | after pressing ok and unselecting myself: |
| 01:55.00 | Mikma | pitBull.lua:147: attempt to index local 'frame' (a nil value) |
| 01:55.16 | CIA-11 | 03trh * r31241 10VanasKoS/ (6 files in 3 dirs): VanasKoS: added 'add attacker to kos' option to the minimap, fixed bugs with special characters in the searchbox |
| 01:55.55 | Mikma | aaaand, after selecting either myself again or someone else: PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua:147: attempt to index field 'auraFrame' (a nil value) |
| 01:56.23 | Mikma | might aswell be because of the first error |
| 01:57.06 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31242 10PitBull/WatchdogTags.lua: PitBull - fix typo in WatchdogTags |
| 01:57.16 | ckknight | you're good now |
| 01:57.50 | Fin | stay |
| 01:58.01 | Mikma | do we know? |
| 01:58.08 | ckknight | know what? |
| 01:58.15 | Mikma | each other |
| 01:58.35 | Mikma | ckknight: errors gone |
| 01:58.39 | ckknight | alright |
| 01:58.58 | Mikma | i'm a master when it comes to exploding addons |
| 01:59.38 | Mikma | oh yes, the overlapping name and health-status is fixed too |
| 02:00.05 | ckknight | yep |
| 02:00.11 | ckknight | I also added quite a few new modules |
| 02:00.28 | Mikma | rest and pvp are the ones i see |
| 02:01.14 | Mikma | ckknight: is it on purpose that Tables-2.0 ain't included in PitBull? |
| 02:01.19 | ckknight | yes. |
| 02:01.24 | Mikma | ok |
| 02:01.27 | ckknight | that's not a requirement |
| 02:01.32 | ckknight | it'll be taken out later |
| 02:01.35 | ckknight | it's only for profiling |
| 02:01.38 | ckknight | which is a developer thing |
| 02:04.45 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r31243 10PitBull_InteractLines/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:04.45 | CIA-11 | PitBull_InteractLines: |
| 02:04.45 | CIA-11 | - initial import. |
| 02:04.45 | CIA-11 | - Probably about the most useless module ever. Shows lines between PitBull frames showing their interactions with each other (damage in red/healing in green). |
| 02:04.54 | Mikma | ckknight: one thing. rest-flag is on bottomleft. when i get attacked while the flag is still visible, the rested flag will move slightly to the right. when the fight-flag goes away, the rest-flag stays on the moved place and doesn't go back to the bottomleft corner |
| 02:05.10 | ckknight | Mikma: thought I fixed that |
| 02:05.26 | Mikma | well, i ganked Gamon at orgrimmar and the flag moved :) |
| 02:05.44 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31244 10PitBull/Combat/Combat.lua: PitBull-Combat - update layout after hiding combat icon |
| 02:05.45 | ckknight | nope |
| 02:05.48 | ckknight | plz try again |
| 02:05.52 | ckknight | kthxbai |
| 02:06.48 | kergoth | fixed the movement, but the stored position in the db isnt right now for those frames.. almost there.. /me had to read the damn ui coordinates wowwiki page |
| 02:06.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Btw, another Hero Classes rumour - http://www.odinneke.nl/2007/03/28/an-interesting-read/ |
| 02:06.54 | Mikma | ckknight: what's at the topleft corner? |
| 02:07.03 | ckknight | Mikma: leader and masterloot |
| 02:07.11 | Mikma | rgr |
| 02:07.13 | kergoth | ckknight: layouts get applied after the initial setpoint, right? |
| 02:07.17 | kergoth | not before? |
| 02:07.25 | ckknight | kergoth: honestly, I'm not sure. |
| 02:07.31 | ckknight | lemme see |
| 02:08.08 | ckknight | kergoth: definitely after |
| 02:08.11 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r31245 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Announce/Announce.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Fix use of wrong variable in options. |
| 02:08.23 | ckknight | the initial setpoint is done right when the frame is created (and at OnDragStop) |
| 02:08.30 | ckknight | the update layout happens after that |
| 02:08.55 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r31246 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.toc: |
| 02:08.56 | CIA-11 | PitBull_EstimatedHeals: |
| 02:08.56 | CIA-11 | - Add Parser-3.0 to X-Embeds and OptDeps. |
| 02:09.03 | Mikma | gamon is a slow spawnedr |
| 02:09.45 | ckknight | well, wait |
| 02:09.49 | ckknight | it should work, though |
| 02:10.05 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r31247 10PitBull_InteractLines/ (PitBull_InteractLines.toc libs/): |
| 02:10.06 | CIA-11 | PitBull_InteractLines: |
| 02:10.06 | CIA-11 | - Add embeds. |
| 02:10.42 | Mikma | spawnerd :P |
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| 02:12.20 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31248 10PitBull/ (3 files in 3 dirs): PitBull - optimize some modules by making them update only non-wacky frames |
| 02:12.26 | Mikma | ckknight: fixed |
| 02:12.35 | ckknight | Mikma: woot |
| 02:13.14 | ckknight | I'm not sure how I'll do the combo thingy, as I want layouts to be able to choose whether it is horizontal or vertical |
| 02:13.22 | ckknight | and such |
| 02:13.36 | ckknight | maybe I need an :OnUpdateLayout method for modules |
| 02:13.59 | Mikma | either dot's or a huge moving number |
| 02:14.05 | ckknight | it'll be dots |
| 02:14.24 | ckknight | but I want the layout to be able to change whether they're horizontal or vertical and which direction |
| 02:14.24 | kenlyric | dots make me sad. |
| 02:14.25 | ckknight | and such |
| 02:14.35 | Mikma | i'm a number-fan but thank god i don't play rouge |
| 02:14.41 | ckknight | I dunno, I'm not a rogue |
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| 02:14.48 | ckknight | I don't know what rogues want. |
| 02:14.51 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 02:14.56 | kenlyric | probably would be terribly difficult to give both. |
| 02:15.03 | kenlyric | errr, the option for either. |
| 02:15.17 | Mikma | ckknight: you know, StellarUF has a nice feature. small button on some corner that you can use to inspect target |
| 02:15.18 | kenlyric | I always liked the number on perl better than the dots on aguf. |
| 02:15.31 | ckknight | Mikma: just right-click inspect |
| 02:15.39 | ckknight | Mikma: if you want, you can make a module for that, it's not hard. |
| 02:15.42 | Mikma | yeah that works too, i think :D |
| 02:15.43 | JoshBorke | Mikma: just make a module :-P |
| 02:15.46 | kenlyric | but honestly, for a rogue, I think I'd rather get my dot count from msbt or sct. |
| 02:15.55 | kenlyric | so the dots can just be a backup to that. |
| 02:16.14 | kergoth | i'm happy enough with the combo point text on the kenergy ticker bar, personally. dots are good though |
| 02:16.41 | kenlyric | yeah, I need to start getting more class specific mods. |
| 02:16.41 | ckknight | oh well. |
| 02:16.50 | ckknight | I'm not going to add in the combo points yet |
| 02:17.30 | kergoth | i use a bunch on my rogue now. kenergy, cutup, poisoner (if i'm not using autobar), locksmith, atropine/hemlock.. |
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| 02:21.34 | Mikma | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=4102 |
| 02:21.34 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r31249 10PitBull_Banzai/PitBull_Banzai.lua: |
| 02:21.35 | CIA-11 | PitBull_Banzai: |
| 02:21.35 | CIA-11 | - Get rid of a couple unneeded variables/redundant functions. |
| 02:21.35 | CIA-11 | - Wrap for profiling. |
| 02:21.35 | Micron_WoW | out of curiousity, what do our local lua experts prefer as an editor for their lua code? |
| 02:21.35 | JoshBorke | vim |
| 02:21.39 | ckknight | TextMate |
| 02:21.39 | Kemayo | I split time between SciTE in Windows and vim on my server. |
| 02:22.41 | ZealotOnAStick | code in raw binary with copy con. |
| 02:22.57 | CIA-11 | 03joshborke * r31250 10Borked_Monitor/: |
| 02:22.57 | CIA-11 | Borked_Monitory |
| 02:22.57 | CIA-11 | - finally getting around to removing this old junk |
| 02:23.22 | Mikma | haha http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=4239 |
| 02:23.27 | Mikma | gangsta speak |
| 02:25.01 | NightHawkTheSane | personally, i code by waving a magnet over my hard drive in a precise manner. *nod* |
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| 02:25.28 | ckknight | the File Allocation Table must be a bitch to get right, though |
| 02:26.03 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah that takes a little finesse |
| 02:26.07 | kergoth | Micron_WoW: vim here as well, but it isnt for the faint of heart |
| 02:26.31 | JoshBorke | yes it is, it's super easy to pick up :_D |
| 02:27.11 | JoshBorke | kergoth: are you going to fix guildbook for me? ^_^ |
| 02:28.00 | Micron_WoW | kergoth: I'm familiar with vim and I've used it for a number of things. I was wondering in anyone had found it worthwhile to use anything with additional contextual support. I know eclipse has a lua syntax defenition somewhere but that seems like overkill for my addon work. |
| 02:28.07 | ckknight | http://www.pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF215-Kitty_Photographer.jpg |
| 02:28.48 | JoshBorke | Micron_WoW: i use vim with syntax highlighting on and i enabled folding in the syntax file |
| 02:28.52 | Yinchie | 8$3capRe |
| 02:28.56 | JoshBorke | so i can fold on functions and tables |
| 02:28.57 | Yinchie | I2873%WD |
| 02:29.08 | JoshBorke | indeed yinchie |
| 02:29.10 | Yinchie | mt |
| 02:29.13 | Mikma | passwords! |
| 02:29.22 | Yinchie | go go hack |
| 02:29.27 | Mikma | quick, hax into his accound and steal his shit |
| 02:29.39 | Yinchie | good luck :) |
| 02:29.54 | Mikma | I don't need luck. I'm goooooood! |
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| 02:34.10 | NightHawkTheSane | you know what sucks? playing sotn, forgetting your a vampire until you lose half your life by jumping in some water. >< |
| 02:34.11 | JoshBorke | is there a shortcut for --ignore-externals? |
| 02:34.34 | kergoth | Micron_WoW: just as josh does, i also use a good lua syntax file with syntax based folding. works fine. dunno exactly what you're looking for |
| 02:34.53 | kergoth | completion? keyword completion works, syntax comletion probably does. i dont know of anyone who's written an omnicompletion plugin for it yet |
| 02:36.01 | JoshBorke | the only completion i use is from 7.0 where it pulls words from open files. how else can you do completion kergoth? |
| 02:36.20 | kergoth | yea thats what i usually do, thats the keyword completion. i should see if syntax based works |
| 02:36.33 | kergoth | omnicompletion would be cool, itd be able to complete locals and such intelligently based on context |
| 02:36.46 | Micron_WoW | I was just looking for different perspectives. I do love code completion but it isn't such a priority for me in lua. |
| 02:37.27 | JoshBorke | bah humbug. i tried to be all smooth and checkout from my local svn then relocate to dev.wowace.com then delete 2 folders at once and i was DENIED |
| 02:38.45 | CIA-11 | 03joshborke * r31251 10/trunk/ (GuildBook/ HealWatch/): |
| 02:38.45 | CIA-11 | HealWatch/GuildBook: |
| 02:38.45 | CIA-11 | - removed old HealWatch/Guildbook |
| 02:40.23 | Cowboy__ | can anyone point me to an example of Tablet being used to create a simple tooltip with a line of text at the mouse cursor called from a category:AddLine("onEnterFunc" ? |
| 02:40.55 | Cowboy__ | it seems like it's far more complicated than some simple "create new tooltip with text 'text' right here" |
| 02:41.26 | ckknight | um... Cartographer_InstanceLoot |
| 02:41.28 | Cowboy__ | or maybe i don't need Tablet to do it.. hrmn |
| 02:41.52 | Cowboy__ | hmmn never used that one |
| 02:42.17 | Cowboy__ | btw ckknight i'm sure you hear it all the time.. but great job on all the addons and apis |
| 02:42.28 | Cowboy__ | it reminds me of my old Tribes days :-) |
| 02:42.29 | ckknight | :-) |
| 02:42.50 | JoshBorke | he does but who doesn't like a good stroking every now and then? |
| 02:43.15 | Chompers | i'm stroking right now. |
| 02:43.27 | Chompers | wait...what? |
| 02:43.27 | JoshBorke | fap fap |
| 02:43.27 | Cowboy__ | hawt |
| 02:44.27 | ckknight | lol. |
| 02:44.42 | Fin | SciTE has noce omnicompletion |
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| 02:45.25 | phantom | does ace2 have an easy way to pop up a confirmation? eg: are you sure you want to do this? |
| 02:45.37 | ckknight | no |
| 02:45.44 | ckknight | there's a way in WoW itself, though |
| 02:45.49 | ckknight | actually, phantom |
| 02:45.52 | phantom | hm? |
| 02:46.04 | ckknight | in AceOptions, if you have an execute type, there's a confirm you can set |
| 02:46.34 | phantom | I don't want to confirm the execute .. I want to confirm from inside an execute method .. when a specific condition happens |
| 02:46.49 | JoshBorke | phantom: just use the blizzard one then, it's easy |
| 02:46.58 | JoshBorke | there's a howto on wowwiki |
| 02:47.07 | Fin | the AceOptions thing |
| 02:47.09 | phantom | whats the method? couldn't find anything from a quick scan of the api? |
| 02:47.12 | Fin | it's dead useful |
| 02:47.19 | Cowboy__ | ugh my poor brain hurts |
| 02:48.05 | Fin | del = { name= L["Delete alt"], confirm= true, |
| 02:48.07 | Cowboy__ | is there any example of simple tooltips-on-hover my limited brain can comprehend? |
| 02:48.10 | Fin | } |
| 02:48.15 | phantom | nm I think I found the wow api one |
| 02:48.23 | Cowboy__ | or just stuff that makes the brain huurting |
| 02:49.30 | JoshBorke | Cowboy__: what kind of tooltip are you trying to open and from where? |
| 02:49.44 | Cowboy__ | well |
| 02:49.59 | Cowboy__ | i have a fubar popup, the standard Tablet |
| 02:50.06 | Cowboy__ | with clickable lines |
| 02:50.19 | JoshBorke | you want a tablet to pop up when you click on a line in another tablet |
| 02:50.21 | Cowboy__ | so i figured i'd add a little "hover over the line" tooltip |
| 02:50.22 | JoshBorke | that's what you want? |
| 02:50.25 | Cowboy__ | on hover |
| 02:50.30 | JoshBorke | on hover, whatever |
| 02:50.38 | Cowboy__ | onEnterFunc / onLeaveFunc |
| 02:51.09 | JoshBorke | so it sounds like you'll need to have 2 tablet frames |
| 02:51.41 | JoshBorke | one that you use to hover on, one that you use for the information you want shown when hovering |
| 02:51.56 | Cowboy__ | do i register another tablet maybe OnEnable and just hide it until i need it? |
| 02:52.01 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 02:52.09 | Cowboy__ | ok |
| 02:52.10 | ckknight | Cowboy__: I recommend for a 1-liner to use GameTooltip |
| 02:52.13 | JoshBorke | unless you want to show it all the time |
| 02:52.15 | ckknight | instead of Tablet |
| 02:52.22 | Cowboy__ | hmmn |
| 02:52.39 | JoshBorke | i said tablet because i don't know what you're trying to display |
| 02:52.42 | Cowboy__ | the only time i've ever done tooltip stuff, i was defining things in XML |
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| 02:52.59 | Cowboy__ | so i'm not sure exactly where to start |
| 02:53.03 | Cowboy__ | but i'll look around |
| 02:53.25 | JoshBorke | Cowboy__: how much information are you displaying in the second tolotip? |
| 02:53.38 | Cowboy__ | just a few lines |
| 02:53.41 | Cowboy__ | nothing crazy |
| 02:53.43 | JoshBorke | use GameTooltip |
| 02:53.48 | Cowboy__ | great |
| 02:54.00 | JoshBorke | all you have to do is: GameTooltip:AddLine(text) |
| 02:54.04 | Fin | if IsMouseOver(frame) GameTooltip:AddLine('arse') end |
| 02:54.10 | Fin | errr |
| 02:54.11 | ckknight | no, Fin |
| 02:54.15 | Fin | -IsMouse+MouseIs |
| 02:54.23 | ckknight | just do the GameTooltip:AddLine('text') |
| 02:54.26 | ckknight | GameTooltip:Show) |
| 02:54.28 | ckknight | ()* |
| 02:54.29 | ckknight | or something |
| 02:54.30 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 02:54.38 | Cowboy__ | i get the idea though |
| 02:54.43 | trh | gametooltip resizes itself if you call show() :) |
| 02:54.54 | Cowboy__ | i was trying to bandage a cut with a full body cast |
| 02:54.57 | Fin | yeah, sorry |
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| 02:55.27 | Fin | if IsMouseOver(frame) GameTooltip:AddLine('arse') GameTooltip:Show() end |
| 02:55.42 | JoshBorke | the IsMouseOver is taken care of by the onEnterFunc |
| 02:55.52 | Fin | pet peeve: addons that don't use the text wrapping argument in GameTooltip:AddLine() |
| 02:55.55 | Cowboy__ | yeah i get it :D |
| 02:56.47 | phantom | uhm .. ok another question .. how can I pass a parameter to execute? |
| 02:56.51 | kergoth | ckknight: ping |
| 02:56.55 | ckknight | kergoth: pong |
| 02:57.15 | ckknight | phantom: hrm... easiest way is to wrap it in another function |
| 02:57.34 | Fin | s/IsMouseOver/MouseIsOver/g anyway |
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| 02:57.58 | kergoth | ckknight: currently the db.x and db.y are scaled (ui scale). do we want them unscaled, so the unitframe positions wont change if the user changes ui scale and relogs/loads? |
| 02:58.00 | ckknight | Fin: you don't even need that, stop suggesting it |
| 02:58.08 | phantom | ckknight: I don't think I follow |
| 02:58.33 | ckknight | kergoth: not sure, I'd say leave it be, seeing as they're clamped to the screen by default, it's not an issue |
| 02:58.34 | kergoth | it isnt an issue, just happened to have made that change here while i was fixing the scaled frame drag code |
| 02:58.40 | Fin | ckknight: I stopped suggesting after JoshBorke replied |
| 02:58.47 | Fin | I was just correcting the function name |
| 02:59.07 | ckknight | lousy flaky females... |
| 02:59.15 | kergoth | k |
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| 03:01.28 | ckknight | hrm, I want layouts to somehow add arbitrary textures |
| 03:01.30 | ckknight | any thoughts? |
| 03:01.41 | Cowboy__ | I'm doing GameTooltip:ClearLines(); GameTooltip:AddLine(name); GameTooltip:Show() |
| 03:02.01 | Cowboy__ | and it shows it fine in the default game tooltip.. but only if the tooltip is already shown |
| 03:02.16 | Cowboy__ | if the tooltip isn't shown, it doesn't make it appear |
| 03:02.31 | Cowboy__ | hmmn |
| 03:03.24 | Fin | no... no, it's gone |
| 03:04.30 | ckknight | I got an idea |
| 03:04.51 | ckknight | have an extraFrames table, that lists all the textures/frames that might be created by the layout thing itself |
| 03:04.55 | NightHawkTheSane | wtb faster download rate on sg-1 s10 |
| 03:04.58 | ckknight | then recycle them on layout update |
| 03:10.39 | Cowboy__ | weird, well of the 100+ addons i have i can't find "gametooltip" in any .lua file, just .xml |
| 03:12.00 | Cowboy__ | ok, i got it |
| 03:12.07 | Cowboy__ | i had to :SetOwner() first |
| 03:12.14 | Cowboy__ | tricky! |
| 03:12.33 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31252 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - added .extraFrames table to layouts, which will remove those frames on every layout update, in the event that the layout will create them again. This is to allow for arbitrary texture and/or frame creation. |
| 03:12.40 | ckknight | Cowboy__: actually it's "tricksy" |
| 03:12.46 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 03:12.47 | Fin | Cowboy__: have you checked out WoWWiki's API reference? it's pretty good (eg http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GameTooltip_AddLine) |
| 03:12.50 | Cowboy__ | pseudo-tricky? |
| 03:12.54 | Cowboy__ | yeah fin |
| 03:12.58 | Fin | kk |
| 03:12.59 | Cowboy__ | i've been looking through it |
| 03:13.00 | Cowboy__ | i live there |
| 03:13.03 | Fin | heh |
| 03:13.09 | Cowboy__ | i'm just.. well, very forgetful |
| 03:13.25 | Cowboy__ | a) i code in a ridiculous number of programming languages |
| 03:13.32 | ckknight | how many? |
| 03:13.35 | Cowboy__ | b) i'm a scripter, not a coder imo |
| 03:13.36 | ckknight | let's see if I've got you beat |
| 03:13.40 | Cowboy__ | i'm sure you do |
| 03:13.44 | Cowboy__ | i'm all web stuff |
| 03:13.46 | Cowboy__ | scripting |
| 03:13.50 | Cowboy__ | no "real" languages |
| 03:13.56 | trh | ckknight: how many do u? =) |
| 03:13.57 | ckknight | web stuff is real, imho |
| 03:13.59 | Cowboy__ | but i'm trying to deal with XSL right now |
| 03:14.01 | ckknight | trh: 20 |
| 03:14.01 | Cowboy__ | well |
| 03:14.05 | Cowboy__ | i always feel like a hack |
| 03:14.10 | trh | ckknight: woa.. that's alot :) |
| 03:14.15 | Cowboy__ | either way, XSL is enough to warp your brain |
| 03:14.23 | Cowboy__ | most of what i do is ECMA-based |
| 03:14.34 | Cowboy__ | so lua is a kick in the nuts for me |
| 03:14.40 | Cowboy__ | like applescript |
| 03:14.45 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:14.46 | trh | xsl is pretty cool |
| 03:14.48 | Cowboy__ | it's easier.. but harder |
| 03:15.04 | Cowboy__ | xsl is pretty cool, until you try to do something that can't be done easily |
| 03:15.13 | Cowboy__ | then be prepared to write a hundred lines of code |
| 03:15.19 | Cowboy__ | for a teeny weenie thing |
| 03:15.19 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 03:15.30 | ckknight | /you@mom |
| 03:15.32 | trh | ya.. i mean in theory it's cool... but in practice its alot easier just to use perl, php or even java ;) |
| 03:15.36 | ckknight | gah, //you@mom |
| 03:16.01 | ckknight | I made a your mom joke with XPath. |
| 03:16.04 | ckknight | you know I'm cool |
| 03:16.25 | trh | every time you do that god kills a kitten! |
| 03:16.43 | Fin | but satan smiles |
| 03:16.44 | ckknight | those kittens had it coming |
| 03:17.02 | Cowboy__ | data.selectMultipleNodes("//men[@yourmom='sleptwith']") <- omg 1000 nodes returned buffer overflow |
| 03:17.10 | ckknight | lol. |
| 03:17.12 | Cowboy__ | etc |
| 03:21.15 | Ozzwald_ | heh, this is sooo much different than ActionScript, lol |
| 03:21.41 | Cowboy__ | heh yeah |
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| 03:23.16 | Ozzwald_ | that's what I generally write for work, and this is a lot different, heh... of course I'm also not used to working with such an insanely large framework |
| 03:23.48 | Cowboy__ | yeah, i do mostly flash, html, javascript, vbscript |
| 03:23.50 | Cowboy__ | all the web stuff |
| 03:24.18 | trh | web programming is boring.. IMHO :) |
| 03:24.29 | Cowboy__ | depends on the project |
| 03:24.35 | trh | the only "hard" thing in it is keeping it secure |
| 03:24.39 | chuckg | I had a kick writing my first ajax app. |
| 03:24.45 | trh | well.. ok.. some enterprise projects might be interesting.. |
| 03:24.52 | Cowboy__ | here's one i just did |
| 03:24.53 | Cowboy__ | http://www.mylifemycard.com/myfamilyvacation/ |
| 03:24.56 | chuckg | And really enjoyed working with prototype. |
| 03:25.00 | Cowboy__ | i got to have fun with the animations |
| 03:25.18 | Cowboy__ | and the dynamic font loading was a fun challenge |
| 03:25.32 | kergoth | is there a pitbull module for raid icon yet? |
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| 03:25.55 | trh | i hate more complex projects always when the point reaches that it works with good programming only in firefox, but not in ie |
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| 03:26.08 | Cowboy__ | hacks! w00t |
| 03:26.08 | trh | then you gotta do bad "code" just to have it work in both browsers |
| 03:26.11 | chuckg | The sphere blend is in the middle instead of the edges like the card Cowboy! |
| 03:26.15 | chuckg | :) |
| 03:26.30 | Cowboy__ | heh i didn't do the graphics production |
| 03:26.37 | Cowboy__ | just all the coding and animations |
| 03:26.48 | Cowboy__ | complain to my design director heh |
| 03:26.51 | trh | Cowboy__: looks nice, but the menu popup animation is to slow for my opinion |
| 03:27.07 | Cowboy__ | heh get a faster computer? |
| 03:27.11 | trh | in my opinion |
| 03:27.11 | Cowboy__ | i agree |
| 03:27.20 | Cowboy__ | there's a LOT of data in there |
| 03:27.26 | Cowboy__ | and flash is slow at dealing with it all |
| 03:27.38 | Ozzwald_ | I did this: http://staging.vpi.net/recycleboy/ - it could have been much better but it was a 3 week project that I got a week to do |
| 03:27.38 | Ozzwald_ | lol |
| 03:27.40 | chuckg | I made a flash site exactly like that.. |
| 03:27.42 | chuckg | 5 years ago! |
| 03:27.43 | trh | Cowboy__: i think a 3000+ should be enough to view a webpage =) |
| 03:27.44 | Cowboy__ | and the designers want nice gradients and alphas |
| 03:27.45 | chuckg | =D |
| 03:27.49 | Cowboy__ | so it makes it slow |
| 03:27.50 | Cowboy__ | ya |
| 03:28.07 | Ozzwald_ | it's still being worked on, not done yet |
| 03:28.42 | trh | my only big web project was a drop database (like thottbot without the gathering part by user) for lineage2 http://l2dc.onlinewelten.com |
| 03:29.06 | Cowboy__ | most of the stuff i do are internal corporate initiatives |
| 03:29.11 | Cowboy__ | that people never even see |
| 03:29.26 | kergoth | ckknight: got some strange aura bugs, will get a sshot |
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| 03:37.47 | xin | antiarc: lol, Google wants to sell kissing 101 on your armory page |
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| 03:57.04 | CIA-11 | 03kergoth * r31253 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull: fix the OnDragStop handler for scaled unit frames. |
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| 03:58.28 | kergoth | for the curious: http://pastey.net/9611 |
| 03:58.38 | kergoth | just a modified abf that sets targettarget to a scale of 0.7 and target to a scale of 0.9 |
| 04:08.48 | kergoth | ckknight: http://gallery.kergoth.com/wow/pitbull_oddauras?full=1 - check the target/targettarget there |
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| 04:16.18 | kergoth | ckknight: is there a preferred mechanism to remove a child frame from a given unit frame? i.e. to kill the mana bar on targettarget if you dont care about it? |
| 04:16.26 | kergoth | programmatically, of course |
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| 04:25.49 | Fin | looks like it tried to create c:\program files\something? |
| 04:26.02 | Fin | firstofthedaygetsignored |
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| 04:43.52 | kergoth | lets see, i think we need pitbull methods to "attach"/"detach" a given child frame/module from a certain unit's frame |
| 04:44.02 | kergoth | got the manabar removed from my targettarget, but it was messy |
| 04:44.40 | kergoth | also had to kill the hardcoded overall framesize in PitBull.lua, that should be layout controlled. the frame doesnt need to be 50 pixels high if there's no manabar, etc |
| 04:44.55 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:52.43 | CIA-11 | 03aznamir * r31254 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua: |
| 04:52.43 | CIA-11 | PallyPower: |
| 04:52.43 | CIA-11 | - Restored previous version of PallyPower:Report, works now. |
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| 05:07.53 | art3mis | hrm |
| 05:07.58 | art3mis | ya know what clearfont needs? |
| 05:08.06 | art3mis | the ability to pick bold or not bold ;P |
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| 05:24.11 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r31255 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: update some deDE gruul's lair |
| 05:24.43 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r31256 10BigWigs/Outland/Maulgar.lua: BigWigs: Outland/Maulgar: deDE summon trigger |
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| 05:36.51 | Funkeh` | later |
| 05:42.14 | Kirkburn | Can anyone shed some light on this? http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Navigation_Bar |
| 05:42.28 | Kirkburn | I cannot for the life of me see anything wrong |
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| 05:50.54 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r31257 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.lua: |
| 05:50.54 | CIA-11 | PitBull_EstimatedHeals: |
| 05:50.54 | CIA-11 | - Recycling is good for the planet. Probably fixes some annoying bugs too. |
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| 05:56.30 | Bibi | oh, new patch on PTR |
| 05:56.44 | Bibi | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=66.0 |
| 05:57.57 | NightHawkTheSane | lol. "Using the customer support "Auto-Unstuck" will now trigger the one-hour cooldown on the player's hearthstone." aka.. "Stop spamming our damn issue tracker with you hearthing!" |
| 06:01.11 | Bibi | well, as far as i understand, they changed it to something that clicks your hearthstone for you |
| 06:06.43 | UE|Daemona | well i guess its the "party and instance express" then again :X |
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| 06:44.20 | Fisker- | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 06:44.23 | Fisker- | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 06:44.28 | Fisker- | Using the customer support "Auto-Unstuck" will now trigger the one-hour cooldown on the player's hearthstone. |
| 06:44.29 | Fisker- | :( |
| 06:45.07 | Fisker- | they probably got very pissed about all the reports of being stuck :P |
| 06:45.51 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 06:47.09 | CIA-11 | 03shieldb * r31258 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Incubator.toc Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua): Incubator: Removed KZ Broken Stair trash as it doesn't seem to respawn outside of a soft reset. |
| 06:50.36 | NightHawkTheSane | astral recall ftw |
| 06:52.06 | Elkano | shaman on you! |
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| 06:53.57 | Fisker- | funny! |
| 06:53.59 | Fisker- | oh wait |
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| 07:12.53 | cncfanatic1 | geography exam ftl, going to it now, cya all |
| 07:13.00 | Elkano | gl |
| 07:13.09 | cncfanatic1 | tnx |
| 07:14.28 | Fisker- | I hope each and every continent and country in your exam is going to be wiped out by alien attacks during your exam |
| 07:14.42 | Fisker- | unless it's my country of course |
| 07:14.57 | art3mis | laugh they changed it because even on cooldown you can use it to hearth ;P |
| 07:15.56 | Fisker- | Now really stuck people can't use it :( |
| 07:17.16 | packetlss | auto-unstuck used to trigger the HS CD, but they changed it for some reason, and now they are changing it back again |
| 07:18.04 | Elkano | btw: Kirkburn, any news on clearfont using SharedMedia? |
| 07:18.06 | Fisker- | i think they changed it to remove the destroy hearthstone->get free blink exploits |
| 07:18.41 | Kirkburn | Nope trying to get a project done |
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| 07:19.48 | Fisker- | A project about rape? |
| 07:20.17 | Cryect | Fisker-: Everytime I've actually been stuck autounstuck has helped me like 1 out of 10 times |
| 07:24.10 | Fisker- | I got beyond the flying barrier in outlands but was unable to get back in |
| 07:24.13 | Fisker- | so i ticketed a gm |
| 07:24.19 | Fisker- | and he asked me if i tried using unstuck |
| 07:24.30 | Fisker- | I'M FLYING YOU IDIOT :( |
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| 07:34.58 | nymbia | rofl |
| 07:36.06 | SunTiger | unmount |
| 07:36.06 | SunTiger | die |
| 07:36.08 | SunTiger | resss |
| 07:36.09 | SunTiger | done |
| 07:36.33 | Fisker- | since i was outside of any zone i wasn't going to take the chance |
| 07:36.51 | SunTiger | worst that could happen is durability loss |
| 07:37.01 | SunTiger | and its damn faster then a gm response. |
| 07:37.58 | Fisker- | How do you that's the worst thing |
| 07:38.00 | Fisker- | ? |
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| 07:45.59 | sbu | morning |
| 07:51.12 | Fisker- | :F |
| 07:52.57 | Dynom | Fisker-: if you die outside a zone you can res near the edge of it, so worst thing is dura loss :-] (Well that and time spend) |
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| 08:00.27 | Kaelten | hows it going guys? |
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| 08:01.38 | nymbia | not too bad, how about you Kaelte? |
| 08:02.07 | Kaelten | not toob ad |
| 08:02.11 | Kaelten | wrote some javascript, |
| 08:02.14 | Kaelten | works well, |
| 08:02.22 | Kaelten | pushes IE up to 312MB memory use |
| 08:02.26 | Kaelten | but it does what its spost to |
| 08:02.38 | nymbia | heh |
| 08:02.46 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 08:05.09 | Elkano | anyone used to passing groups and multitoggle? |
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| 08:10.02 | Fisker- | Dynom i'm outside the gamemap itself |
| 08:10.04 | Fisker- | well sorta |
| 08:10.14 | Dynom | Fisker-: doesn't matter I think |
| 08:10.24 | Dynom | worst case could be that a GM has to put you on the map |
| 08:10.40 | Dynom | how the hell di dyou got there anyway |
| 08:10.50 | Dynom | auto-walk (read: fly) ftw ? |
| 08:11.35 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 08:12.32 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 08:12.50 | Fisker- | todays southpark was fun :P |
| 08:13.11 | nee|work | stupid vista |
| 08:13.34 | nee|work | Or rather, annoying security features which I don't want to turn off but don't understand well enough yet to have everything work with it. |
| 08:13.43 | nee|work | stupid ignorance! Why don' |
| 08:13.47 | nee|work | egh. Stupid enter key! |
| 08:14.06 | nee|work | *Why don't I know how to do things without learning how. Ah well.. |
| 08:14.17 | Fisker- | you can disable it it in msconfig |
| 08:14.19 | nee|work | And good morning one and all :) |
| 08:14.20 | Fisker- | YOU IDIOT |
| 08:14.20 | Fisker- | ! |
| 08:14.27 | nee|work | Yes, but I do not want to disable it. |
| 08:14.43 | Fisker- | oh :o |
| 08:14.55 | nee|work | I just don' |
| 08:14.57 | nee|work | egh! |
| 08:15.08 | nee|work | Why is the ' key so close to my enter key. |
| 08:15.29 | Elkano | nee, same for shift ^^ |
| 08:15.40 | nee|work | I just don't understand why apps I run as a user don't seem to have access to my users' temp dir. Full access that is. |
| 08:15.45 | nee|work | :) |
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| 08:15.51 | nee|work | Yes, shift is too close too |
| 08:16.06 | NightHawkTheSane | only if you use right side shift. |
| 08:16.10 | nee|work | :) |
| 08:16.19 | NightHawkTheSane | <-- left side shift kinda guy |
| 08:17.28 | nee|work | An example - I use opera as browser. I try to 'run' an executable I download. Result: Error, nothing is downloaded. No popup for admin rights or such. Another example: I can save and open a zip file I download. But, when it is opened in Winrar/7-zip/whatever program, I can not extract it anywhere. I can only do that when I copy the archive to my desktop and extract it there. |
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| 08:17.54 | nee|work | It just tells me there's no room in the temp dir. |
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| 08:30.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Bleh, seems like i'm making money much slower on my shammy than on my warrior. >< |
| 08:31.03 | Elkano | professions? |
| 08:31.10 | NightHawkTheSane | skinning/herb |
| 08:31.22 | Elkano | with both? |
| 08:31.30 | Kirkburn | If people are still looking for 2.0.12 patch notes |
| 08:31.31 | Kirkburn | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/86646263.htm |
| 08:31.31 | NightHawkTheSane | I think a good portion of it has to do with the fact that on my warrior, i got all my random greens de'd and sold the mats. |
| 08:31.37 | NightHawkTheSane | And no, my warrior's herb/alch |
| 08:31.49 | Elkano | hmm... |
| 08:32.56 | NightHawkTheSane | and on my shammy im just donating them to my friend to level her chanting. |
| 08:33.02 | nee|work | new patch? |
| 08:33.32 | Kirkburn | No, I just made it up and force Drysc to post fake patch notes? :P |
| 08:33.58 | Kirkburn | *forced |
| 08:34.08 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, you would do that wouldn't you. :p |
| 08:34.15 | Kirkburn | Goddamn me |
| 08:38.05 | Cyrez | No, don't kick him! He makes those snazzy buff bars! :( |
| 08:38.11 | Elkano | ~whalenametheft Fisker- |
| 08:38.23 | purl | ACTION watches in awe as a rather menacing whale named Reginald (who also happens to be well versed in the art of marketing) kicks Fisker-'s ass and steals his/her name. The now anonymous target weeps. |
| 08:38.23 | Fisker- | they still suck |
| 08:38.31 | Fisker- | ~ballmer |
| 08:38.33 | purl | methinks ballmer is Darth Maul to Gates' Palpatine, or fat |
| 08:38.38 | Fisker- | ~steveballmer Elkano |
| 08:38.40 | purl | ACTION bounces on fisker- screaming, "DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS!!" |
| 08:38.43 | Fisker- | bleh |
| 08:38.58 | Fisker- | purl literal whalenametheft |
| 08:39.00 | Kirkburn | ~coconuts |
| 08:39.01 | purl | I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts, there they are all standing in a row. Big ones, small ones, some as big as your head, give them a twist, a flick of the wrist, that's what the showman said! |
| 08:39.13 | Kirkburn | ~literal whalenametheft |
| 08:39.29 | Kirkburn | Hmm |
| 08:39.34 | Kirkburn | At least mine worked :) |
| 08:42.48 | Kirkburn | Cos I'm cool - 2.0.12 wikified patch notes: http://tinyurl.com/3eykwu |
| 08:42.57 | Punkie` | nyu |
| 08:43.30 | Punkie` | Kirkburn, I should be a wowwiki admin!!1 |
| 08:44.08 | Kirkburn | You have actually edit it, y'know |
| 08:44.51 | Punkie` | sounds like work :S |
| 08:44.57 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 08:45.58 | Punkie` | I need to know how to make an awesome looking wiki sig :( |
| 08:46.14 | Kirkburn | WW:SIG |
| 08:46.25 | Kirkburn | Lots of examples there |
| 08:47.50 | Punkie` | cool |
| 08:49.17 | NightHawkTheSane | gah, i hate warriors who are incapable of actually tanking more than one mob |
| 08:49.23 | Kirkburn | Not all are good, though :P |
| 08:49.36 | NightHawkTheSane | if by "not all" you mean "none but maybe four. ever." |
| 08:49.39 | Kirkburn | Even a warlock can manage that NightHawkTheSane :) |
| 08:49.39 | nee|work | steve ballmer is scary :( |
| 08:49.48 | Punkie` | So euh, how do I make a new page :( |
| 08:49.55 | Kirkburn | The tongue.... THE TONGUE!!!! |
| 08:49.59 | Punkie` | just type in the url of the page i want and edit it? |
| 08:50.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: yes |
| 08:50.04 | Kirkburn | Aye |
| 08:50.10 | Kirkburn | Spaces become underscores |
| 08:50.20 | Kirkburn | (autmagically) |
| 08:50.28 | Punkie` | oh noes |
| 08:50.29 | Kirkburn | *(automagically) |
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| 08:53.35 | nee|work | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6304687408656696643&q=steve+ballmer oO |
| 08:55.02 | NightHawkTheSane | wtf? who th ehell skips the 6 pull before the slime in shattered halls? it's not fucking "too hard" or anything |
| 08:57.38 | Elkano | NightHawkTheSane, and I hate players who dont focusfire on the tanks target :/ |
| 08:57.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: that too. But its worse when tanks dont know how to tank multile things |
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| 08:58.14 | mitch0 | and I hate shadowpriest who pull agro 1sec in the fight... |
| 08:58.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Then you kind of -have- to spread your dps so your healer doesnt get insta-gibbed |
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| 08:59.08 | nee|work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zEQhhaJsU4 Anyone else might be institutionalized for showing such behaviour :| |
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| 09:01.43 | doktoreas | hi to all |
| 09:02.22 | doktoreas | i am looking for an addon to monitor overheling done...any suggestion? |
| 09:02.25 | doktoreas | thanks |
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| 09:03.32 | Punkie` | by yourself or? |
| 09:03.40 | Laricwork | kirkburn here? |
| 09:04.39 | doktoreas | Punkie`, by my self |
| 09:05.47 | Punkie` | I know a lot of people in my guild use: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/3099/healing-estimator/ ... I don't know if there is an 'ace' one or whatever |
| 09:06.11 | doktoreas | Punkie`, thank you mate |
| 09:06.40 | Punkie` | no probs, hopefully it's what you wanted |
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| 09:10.20 | knarf- | whats the current version of wow ? |
| 09:10.30 | Elkano | 2.0.10 |
| 09:10.47 | knarf- | thanks |
| 09:11.07 | Kaelten | g'night guys |
| 09:11.11 | Elkano | I wonder what 2.0.11 patch was... Taiwan? |
| 09:11.20 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 09:11.21 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 09:13.18 | Fisker- | Anyone know some apache shit? :O |
| 09:13.39 | doktoreas | Fisker-, shoot |
| 09:13.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Sorry, no, I'm 16th Cherokee, not Apache. |
| 09:14.01 | Health | Funneh! |
| 09:14.17 | Fisker- | none of my websites seem to understand group writable |
| 09:14.24 | Fisker- | I put my ftp user in the www-data group that apache uses |
| 09:14.34 | Elkano | ok, buff white/black list seems to be working, too :) |
| 09:14.47 | Fisker- | and made /var/www group writable so i didn't have to worry about chown and all that crap or make stuff world writable |
| 09:15.02 | Fisker- | but everything says "It's not writable" and i have to chown it to www-data anyways |
| 09:16.11 | CIA-11 | 03fatherjim * r31259 10loudmouth/loudmouth.lua: |
| 09:16.11 | CIA-11 | loudmouth: |
| 09:16.11 | CIA-11 | - Updated Beta with lots more of the quote set code finished. |
| 09:18.36 | Kirkburn | Laricwork, pong |
| 09:19.39 | vhaarr | nymbia: PitBull_Banzai:Disable was used. |
| 09:19.45 | vhaarr | nymbia: By BanzaiAlert. |
| 09:19.49 | Laricwork | hi kirk.. I have a question on clearfont. I don't seem to get it to stick to fubar's dewdrops.. When I hover over the apply to addons. That one menu is 'fonted'. But even clearfonts own submenus remain un'fonted' |
| 09:20.17 | Kirkburn | It's something I plan to look at sometime |
| 09:20.28 | Kirkburn | Either that, or pester ckk, it's his code :) |
| 09:20.52 | Laricwork | ok do the problem is in dewdrop/tablet/fubar? |
| 09:20.54 | ckknight | no |
| 09:21.01 | ckknight | don't bug me |
| 09:21.09 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 09:21.28 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r31260 10BigWigs/Outland/Doomwalker.lua: BigWigs: Doomwalker: frFR by seny, thanks! |
| 09:22.20 | nymbia | vhaarr: ah |
| 09:22.33 | Laricwork | then I guess I won't see a solution to this anytime soon. |
| 09:22.41 | nymbia | vhaarr: enable too? |
| 09:22.48 | Elkano | clearfont will most likely also have a hard time trying to modify EBBs ;) |
| 09:22.50 | vhaarr | nymbia: indeed |
| 09:23.19 | nymbia | vhaarr: ok. i'll fix it, sorry :) |
| 09:23.32 | Laricwork | you reset the font when you update the text or? |
| 09:24.40 | Elkano | well, not on text update but very often... but EBBs will have options to change the text itself :) |
| 09:25.18 | Elkano | and as soon as kirkburn decides to convert CF to use SharedMediaLib, all of it's fonts will be available to EBBs |
| 09:27.06 | Laricwork | ok |
| 09:28.12 | Laricwork | well it seems that the defult font wich fubar and it's dewdrops are using isn't really good on my screen and that is my big problem. And I haven't found a way to change the fonts on fubar |
| 09:28.24 | Laricwork | ebb is readabøe |
| 09:28.31 | Laricwork | readable even |
| 09:33.24 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r31261 10PitBull_Banzai/PitBull_Banzai.lua: |
| 09:33.24 | CIA-11 | PitBull_Banzai: |
| 09:33.24 | CIA-11 | - Replace :Enable() and :Disable(), as BanzaiAlert needs them. |
| 09:42.31 | Industrial | nymbia: what does that addon do |
| 09:42.56 | Fisker- | flashes your unitframes when you have aggro? |
| 09:43.23 | Industrial | i dunno thats why i ask |
| 09:43.32 | CIA-11 | 03akx * r31262 10DreamChat/DreamChat_FrameClass.lua: DreamChat: Oops, no AceHook needed here >.> |
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| 09:44.15 | Fisker- | then ask through interpative dancing |
| 09:45.42 | Industrial | :P |
| 09:46.54 | nymbia | Industrial: turns health bar red |
| 09:46.57 | Fisker- | needs MOAR addons nymbia |
| 09:47.16 | nymbia | i'm on a good pace of one pitbull module per night ;p |
| 09:47.34 | Fisker- | i liek |
| 09:47.36 | NightHawkTheSane | god, people who think sh normal mode "is a bitch" make me want to cry |
| 09:47.46 | nymbia | hahaha |
| 09:47.50 | Fisker- | pitbull is starting to exceed my expectations |
| 09:47.52 | NightHawkTheSane | I fucking hate pugs |
| 09:47.54 | Gagorian | Even heroic is rather easy |
| 09:47.59 | Fisker- | sh? |
| 09:48.02 | Fisker- | shattered halls? |
| 09:48.07 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 09:48.11 | Fisker- | it's a bitch |
| 09:48.16 | Fisker- | Cause not every group has 2 mages :P |
| 09:48.38 | NightHawkTheSane | It can be a pain if you dont have any, but it's not really hard if you have a comptetant tank |
| 09:48.48 | Gagorian | Did it with 2 locks, mage, priest and warrior on heroic. Took us about 45 minutes total |
| 09:48.52 | Silviu- | We had 0 mages :P |
| 09:49.01 | Fisker- | ok Gagorian ranged dps then |
| 09:49.08 | Silviu- | warlock, hunter dudu, priest tank |
| 09:49.16 | Industrial | i really dislike the 'highlight' texture on the pitbull frames. |
| 09:49.20 | Fisker- | I've never been able to complete shattered halls with rogues :( |
| 09:49.40 | Gagorian | Learn to choose proper groups :> |
| 09:49.53 | Fisker- | Noone does normal mode anymore |
| 09:49.54 | Silviu- | I hate that all are imune to seduce in heroic tho |
| 09:50.11 | Gagorian | Well fear's ok |
| 09:50.13 | Fisker- | that's because they're all gay |
| 09:50.23 | Gagorian | Seduce works on casters and fel orcs |
| 09:50.30 | Gagorian | so it's still one more CC in a few pulls |
| 09:50.36 | Silviu- | Fear u can but u must pull all verry much behind |
| 09:50.45 | Gagorian | yeah but that's doable |
| 09:50.52 | Silviu- | yeah |
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| 09:51.25 | Silviu- | we did not finish quest tho ... tank had to afk for around 20 mins :/ |
| 09:51.40 | Silviu- | And we had 5 mins at last boss ... and we wiped at 2 % lol |
| 09:51.45 | Silviu- | Today we must do again |
| 09:51.51 | Fisker- | Elkano |
| 09:52.00 | Fisker- | my mem went up 294721307432GB after i loaded EBBs |
| 09:52.26 | Elkano | intentional, it checks for your account |
| 09:52.32 | Fisker- | and password? |
| 09:52.34 | Silviu- | works as intended :D |
| 09:52.34 | evl | all heroics are easy :/ |
| 09:53.07 | evl | hope they do something to the heroic loot, it's just silly crap atmn |
| 09:53.28 | vhaarr | evl: I think the last boss in Underbog is actually hard on heroic, but I've only done him once, so I'm not sure, maybe he'll be easier next time, since we know there will be adds now. |
| 09:53.34 | Fisker- | they just nerf any other loot |
| 09:53.38 | CIA-11 | 03fatherjim * r31263 10loudmouth/loudmouth.lua: |
| 09:53.38 | CIA-11 | loudmouth: |
| 09:53.38 | CIA-11 | - Add Dynamic Module Checking |
| 09:53.59 | evl | vhaarr: just bring massive dps and a holy pala :) |
| 09:54.15 | vhaarr | heh, well, isn't that true for everything |
| 09:54.23 | evl | only heroic that was moderately annoying was Mechanar second boss |
| 09:54.27 | evl | the elementals that hellfire for 3k |
| 09:54.30 | evl | and there's no space to move :P |
| 09:54.31 | CIA-11 | 03jerry * r31264 10Talented/ (Talented.toc apply.lua): Talented: bugfix to template apply mode. |
| 09:54.35 | Gagorian | Yeah that's the gayest boss |
| 09:54.40 | vhaarr | first boss was changed drastically too |
| 09:54.42 | vhaarr | in mechanar |
| 09:54.43 | evl | although, we found a neat trick |
| 09:54.59 | vhaarr | evl: we just kill panthaleon first and kite her |
| 09:54.59 | evl | kill last boss, take a rogue and engage boss, evasion, get all adds agro and sprint to last boss room :P |
| 09:55.02 | evl | yeah :P |
| 09:55.17 | evl | but the loot needs scaling |
| 09:55.23 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 09:55.30 | evl | some of it is godlike, some of it isn't even worth the shard alone |
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| 09:55.41 | evl | seems awfully rushed. |
| 09:56.24 | vhaarr | they need to stop nerfing karazhan, we killed all the bosses pre-nerfs, and we're not even raiding 25man content |
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| 09:56.59 | Silviu- | The nerf on Gruul is nice |
| 09:57.04 | ZealotOnAStick | Gruul is a joke now. |
| 09:57.07 | nymbia | vhaarr: what have they nerfed since nightbane? i stopped paying attention |
| 09:57.07 | Silviu- | No need for flasks and pots anymore |
| 09:57.09 | vhaarr | I can imagine, but we don't have enough members. |
| 09:57.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Magtheridon is about right. |
| 09:57.16 | Silviu- | Yeah |
| 09:57.22 | Silviu- | Mag is hard we have 2 wl`s |
| 09:57.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Whereas Hydross is a serious pain. |
| 09:57.28 | nymbia | gruul's a loot pinata now |
| 09:57.50 | evl | the reason they nerf is to keep people playing the game |
| 09:57.52 | ZealotOnAStick | nymbia: Yeah. Maulgar's riskier than Gruul now. |
| 09:57.55 | Silviu- | We try today ssc first time |
| 09:57.55 | vhaarr | nymbia: didn't they nerf maiden and illhoof? |
| 09:58.04 | evl | illhoof nerf? |
| 09:58.24 | nymbia | vhaarr: i knew about illhoof but not maiden |
| 09:58.37 | vhaarr | yeah, it was not needed, but they nerfed her anyway |
| 09:58.42 | evl | maiden had her nuked nerfed |
| 09:58.49 | evl | All we are saaaayiiiing |
| 09:58.52 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, Maiden was mainly altered so that melee DPS could have some reasonable chance of DPSing. |
| 09:58.53 | evl | Is give rogues a chaaaaance |
| 09:59.38 | ZealotOnAStick | So now our rogues run in and out, rather than just standing around looking glum throwing things. |
| 10:00.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Now they can look glum stabbing her. |
| 10:00.07 | vhaarr | they'll probably nerf netherspite, too, I can see it coming |
| 10:00.10 | vhaarr | and aran |
| 10:00.15 | vhaarr | :( |
| 10:00.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Netherspite doesn't need nerfing. |
| 10:00.23 | ZealotOnAStick | It's already an easy fight, IMO. |
| 10:00.25 | vhaarr | I agree, but they'll nerf him anyway. |
| 10:00.26 | Gagorian | Nothing in karazhan needs nerfing :l |
| 10:00.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Aran's a bit of a bitch, as IMO too much of it is luck based. |
| 10:00.49 | Fisker- | :( Elkano |
| 10:00.53 | Fisker- | your addon is telling me to grow up |
| 10:00.57 | Industrial | #raiding :| |
| 10:01.17 | Gagorian | Newest south park is sickly good :P |
| 10:01.28 | ZealotOnAStick | A Snuke in her Sniz? |
| 10:01.34 | Elkano | well, that only prooves how inteligent it is |
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| 10:01.36 | vhaarr | ooh, give link to that site where I can watch it |
| 10:02.09 | vhaarr | southparkzone.com |
| 10:02.20 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd just like to find out who's responsible for the trash design for SSC. |
| 10:02.31 | ZealotOnAStick | And torment them a while. |
| 10:02.33 | vhaarr | the same guy who made AQ? :P |
| 10:02.48 | Gagorian | The terrorists have snuck a snuke up her sniz |
| 10:02.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Mainly . . . ok, it's trash, yay, we get it. Either lengthen the damn respawn, or like . . . halve their HPs. |
| 10:03.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Also, flog the guy who did the procedural texture for the acid geyser. |
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| 10:03.28 | Gagorian | ZealotOnAStick: Well.. At least hydross despawns trash. Apparently the rest of the bosses don't despawn anything |
| 10:03.38 | Gagorian | So need to clear constantly. |
| 10:03.47 | ZealotOnAStick | I've got dual 7800 GTXs in SLI with a beastly dual-core system with 2 GB ram, and NOTHING in ANY game I've found nails my framerate like that effect. |
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| 10:04.23 | Gagorian | ZealotOnAStick: yeah that cripples me :P |
| 10:05.36 | Laricwork | Elkano is EBBs in a working state now? |
| 10:05.51 | Laricwork | or should we still stick to ebb? |
| 10:06.48 | Elkano | Laricwork, only a hand of things to do before I can promote it to beta ^^ |
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| 10:07.06 | NightHawkTheSane | it really makes me cry how a group with 2 mages can wipe to trash in normal shattered halls. really reminds me why i rolled a warrior. |
| 10:08.37 | Laricwork | Elkano if I want to test it. is the latest ebbs in trunk or in branches? |
| 10:09.00 | Elkano | trunk |
| 10:09.53 | Fisker- | ahaha |
| 10:09.56 | Fisker- | we ain't gonna get stopped |
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| 10:13.59 | Fisker- | http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/wtttext.jpg |
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| 10:15.59 | Punkie` | Fisker-! Hide that autobar button! |
| 10:17.30 | Fisker- | NO |
| 10:17.30 | Fisker- | I WILL NOT HIDE IT |
| 10:17.30 | Fisker- | NEVER |
| 10:17.30 | Dynom | Fisker-: Pitbull ? |
| 10:17.31 | Fisker- | yes |
| 10:17.31 | CIA-11 | 03totalpackage * r31265 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua): |
| 10:17.31 | CIA-11 | Cellular |
| 10:17.31 | CIA-11 | - fix broken mousewheel function |
| 10:17.31 | CIA-11 | - last attempt at fixing doubling problem until someone or I find the actual bug |
| 10:17.31 | Dynom | whats that bar under your portrait? xp ? |
| 10:17.39 | Dynom | and that black/gray ish under that |
| 10:17.54 | NightHawkTheSane | cast bar, i'd imagine |
| 10:18.22 | Dynom | yeah, think so too |
| 10:18.32 | Fisker- | you propose SLAVERY AND DEATH Punkie` |
| 10:18.32 | Dynom | would be kinda kewl tbh |
| 10:18.34 | evl | WOOT |
| 10:18.47 | evl | http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-3102-1.html |
| 10:18.52 | Punkie` | Lies, HIDE IT! |
| 10:18.52 | evl | 2.0.12 |
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| 10:19.17 | Punkie` | Wow, they have so not been posted in this channel before, like never ever. |
| 10:19.19 | evl | lol "Using the customer support "Auto-Unstuck" will now trigger the one-hour cooldown on the player's hearthstone." |
| 10:19.20 | Fisker- | Dynom it's elkanosbuffbars |
| 10:19.28 | Fisker- | and the black/grey thing is skinner |
| 10:19.42 | evl | Punkie`; well posting them again made me feel super-good! |
| 10:19.44 | Fisker- | THIS IS RAVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENCREEEEEEEEEEEEST |
| 10:19.54 | Punkie` | :( |
| 10:20.20 | Dynom | evl: thats either very old-patchnotes or general information ? |
| 10:20.35 | Dynom | kinda miss, positioned that '-' there |
| 10:20.47 | Punkie` | Post them again, I think Fisker- missed them. |
| 10:21.14 | Dynom | nah he's smart, he's not hiding buttons |
| 10:21.36 | Fisker- | i woner who the girl in teza's avatar is |
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| 10:22.37 | evl | Fisker-: Probably the kind of girl that takes it in the mouth for a bucket of cod. |
| 10:22.37 | Punkie` | gratsmate |
| 10:23.22 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 10:23.29 | evl | I need something so I can hide a running WoW while at work |
| 10:23.33 | evl | tips?! |
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| 10:24.15 | Fisker- | ssh motherfucker |
| 10:24.15 | NightHawkTheSane | I suggest a piece of paper taped over your monitor |
| 10:24.17 | Fisker- | do you know it? |
| 10:24.32 | Laricwork | anyone remembers the command switch to run wow in opengl? |
| 10:25.25 | Nickenyfiken | -opengl ? |
| 10:25.28 | Punkie` | evl: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/2651/bosskey/ :p |
| 10:25.39 | nymbia | -opengl |
| 10:25.44 | Laricwork | :) |
| 10:26.04 | Laricwork | gonna test how the performance differ on my quadro card in this laptop |
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| 10:26.23 | xlvii | fucking hell. |
| 10:26.26 | xlvii | i hate game masters |
| 10:26.36 | evl | Punkie`: Yeah, the title bar doesn't say World of Warcraft anymore, oh wait... it does! |
| 10:26.41 | xlvii | my 'the master's touch' quest bugged (i couldn't talk to medivh) |
| 10:26.42 | evl | xlvii: i hate taxes |
| 10:26.52 | xlvii | and the best they can do is tell me to run the black morass again. |
| 10:26.55 | Punkie` | evl: don't run in windows mode! |
| 10:26.57 | xlvii | it's happened twice. |
| 10:27.05 | Punkie` | QQ |
| 10:27.15 | sbu | * Unix top program style display of party members and their health |
| 10:27.16 | xlvii | and i've payed close to 200g+ to even get a group together. |
| 10:27.16 | sbu | olol |
| 10:27.17 | xlvii | >_> |
| 10:27.22 | Gagorian | Payed? |
| 10:27.26 | Gagorian | wtf |
| 10:27.29 | NightHawkTheSane | you payed gold to get a group together? |
| 10:28.02 | Punkie` | ho ho |
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| 10:31.02 | Laricwork | what the heck is dual-TMU? |
| 10:32.14 | NightHawkTheSane | dual-tethered metro unicycles! |
| 10:32.50 | NightHawkTheSane | er... dual-triangulation multi utilikilts? |
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| 10:33.13 | Laricwork | ok :) |
| 10:36.06 | Dynom | hmm, isn't TMU texture mapping? |
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| 10:36.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Dynom: not a chance, that makes far too much sense |
| 10:37.01 | Dynom | well I thought it was Testicle Measure Unit; but Texture made less sense. |
| 10:37.31 | Dynom | but the 'dual' part was confusing tbh |
| 10:37.37 | NightHawkTheSane | true |
| 10:41.50 | Laricwork | running wow with -opengl gives a message about me not having dual-TMU |
| 10:42.00 | Laricwork | so I guess I only have one testicle then |
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| 10:43.43 | xin | Laricwork: I would have thought that a TMU would be your hands... Unless you've got tiny balls |
| 10:46.47 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r31266 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.lua: |
| 10:46.47 | CIA-11 | PitBull_EstimatedHeals: |
| 10:46.47 | CIA-11 | - Clear cast bars on UNIT_SPELLCAST_INTERRUPTED and UNIT_SPELLCAST_FAILED, as UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP seems to fail to fire sometimes. |
| 10:47.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah. i fail to fire sometimes to.. er.. wait. >.> |
| 10:49.21 | Nickenyfiken | haha i just have try Pitbull_InteractLines |
| 10:49.29 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r31267 10PitBull_EstimatedHeals/PitBull_EstimatedHeals.lua: |
| 10:49.29 | CIA-11 | PitBull_EstimatedHeals: |
| 10:49.29 | CIA-11 | - On second thought, comment out _FAILED, we'll see how it does with just _STOP and _INTERRUPTED |
| 10:49.45 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: you would ;) |
| 10:50.14 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: yeah. though usually it's because I get _INTERRUPTED first. |
| 10:50.22 | nymbia | lol |
| 10:50.22 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
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| 10:57.52 | xlvii | yes, i did pay |
| 10:57.56 | xlvii | because no one does it anymore. |
| 10:58.54 | NightHawkTheSane | xlvii: you dont have a guild who'll help? |
| 11:01.29 | xlvii | nighthawkthesane, i was in a guild BUT, they kicked me for not getting keyed. |
| 11:01.40 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 11:01.46 | xlvii | pugs do not work on my realm either. |
| 11:01.55 | xlvii | i believe my realm is cursed >_> |
| 11:01.57 | NightHawkTheSane | get a new guild, your old one was clearly idiots |
| 11:02.39 | Punkie` | what NightHawkTheSane said |
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| 11:10.12 | xlvii | but all of them want me to be keyed for karazhan |
| 11:10.13 | xlvii | -.- |
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| 11:11.48 | Punkie` | I hope you have nearly all the heroic keys then, i wouldn't want you to be kicked for that either :P |
| 11:12.11 | CIA-11 | 03sole * r31268 10Antagonist/Locals/ (deDE.lua enGB.lua): Antagonist: Fixed Great Britain localization. Localized GUI strings for German client. |
| 11:14.18 | NightHawkTheSane | "You didn't think the Colonel had a telescope on his roof just to look at the neighbors, did you?" "... Not initially." |
| 11:15.41 | nymbia | enGB.. i thought that didnt exist? |
| 11:16.12 | NightHawkTheSane | What would possibly be different between enUS and enGB? i mean, its not like enCA where you'd put ", eh?" at the end of everything. |
| 11:16.25 | nymbia | lol |
| 11:16.52 | Punkie` | I think the GB client returns enUS |
| 11:16.57 | clad|sleep | it does |
| 11:17.00 | nymbia | color vs colour i guess but that enGB file says 'color' |
| 11:17.08 | nymbia | yeah it does |
| 11:17.08 | clad|sleep | enGB is just for internal stuff in their language pack |
| 11:17.19 | clad|sleep | its a client difference, not a locale diff, which has always been weird =) |
| 11:17.40 | Punkie` | zomg at sleep IRCing btw, scary stuff |
| 11:18.02 | clad|sleep | skillz |
| 11:18.02 | clad|work | well, |
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| 11:18.12 | clad|onwaytowork | =) |
| 11:18.18 | nymbia | only way to check that i know of if it's a eu english client is checking the realmlist CVar |
| 11:18.41 | Laricwork | clad|onwaytowork you are a quick man.. but doesnt enGB and enUS differ on number formats and similair? |
| 11:19.09 | clad|work | Laricwork: Not that I'm aware of, other than using metric instead of imperial |
| 11:19.19 | clad|work | they still use numbers the same way we do |
| 11:19.21 | vhaarr | nymbia: That's not true, you can also check for LOCALE_enGB. |
| 11:19.22 | clad|work | unlike those crazy germans |
| 11:19.33 | clad|work | vhaarr: That was just added tho relatively recently |
| 11:19.36 | vhaarr | I know. |
| 11:19.37 | NightHawkTheSane | do eu clients use metric in-game measurements? |
| 11:19.51 | clad|work | METRES! ftw |
| 11:19.53 | Laricwork | unfortunatly it still uses yards |
| 11:19.57 | clad|work | hehe =) |
| 11:20.10 | Laricwork | i want 30m intead of 30 yd |
| 11:20.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Laricwork: well, my point is.. it's an arbitrary unit in a fictional game, who cares what it's called :P |
| 11:20.14 | clad|work | hehe |
| 11:20.31 | clad|work | later folks |
| 11:20.36 | clad|work | who's the author of nquestlog? |
| 11:20.38 | NightHawkTheSane | er, fictional environment, i mean. I guess the game is pretty real |
| 11:20.47 | NightHawkTheSane | clad|work: _neuron_ i think? |
| 11:20.47 | nymbia | later clad|work |
| 11:20.51 | Fisker- | li'd rather want the correct value Laricwork :) |
| 11:21.07 | vhaarr | clad|work: _neuron_, I believe. |
| 11:21.14 | _neuron_ | it is, and I just came home :P |
| 11:21.17 | Fisker- | sure |
| 11:21.20 | Fisker- | "you came" |
| 11:21.39 | clad|work | _neuron_: People have been asking for me to get LightHeaded working with your addon.. just trying to figure out the easiest way to do that visually, etc. |
| 11:21.43 | clad|work | have you look at it at all? |
| 11:21.55 | _neuron_ | nope, but I will now |
| 11:21.59 | clad|work | ok |
| 11:22.08 | NightHawkTheSane | what's LightHeaded? |
| 11:22.13 | clad|work | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html |
| 11:22.35 | _neuron_ | ah, yeah, someone else was working on something similar on the forums |
| 11:22.48 | clad|work | aye, called wowhead_quests |
| 11:22.53 | clad|work | I think he decided I can update easier |
| 11:23.08 | clad|work | since my parser is fully written, has more data, and I compress the data |
| 11:23.15 | _neuron_ | nice |
| 11:23.16 | NightHawkTheSane | huh, interesting |
| 11:23.25 | _neuron_ | do you have an api or something for this? |
| 11:23.29 | clad|work | not yet |
| 11:23.31 | clad|work | that's where you come in =) |
| 11:23.38 | clad|work | just gotta tell me what you think is the easiest way to do it |
| 11:23.53 | _neuron_ | right away I'm thinking just making a module for it in nquestlog that uses it if it's available |
| 11:24.00 | clad|work | *nod* |
| 11:24.02 | clad|work | seems to make sense |
| 11:24.10 | clad|work | I want to get yours, and MonkeyQuest working together |
| 11:24.28 | clad|work | here's the deal tho |
| 11:24.29 | vhaarr | clad|work: You should also talk to Kemayo, he wrote Quixote and FuBar_QuestsFu. |
| 11:24.37 | clad|work | the only unique key we have in game, is QuestName and Level. |
| 11:24.44 | clad|work | vhaarr: he's already working on it for FQF |
| 11:24.48 | vhaarr | alright |
| 11:25.08 | clad|work | _neuron_: but, I have wowhead quest id's in the comments, so we can seperate them by quest instances, providing tabs, or what have you. |
| 11:25.15 | clad|work | for example, when there are five steps of a quest, all with the same name |
| 11:25.23 | clad|work | WTB unique identifiers for quests =/ |
| 11:25.34 | _neuron_ | Kemayo, how are you gonna implement LightHeaded in questsfu? Is it something your gonna put in the detailsframe? |
| 11:25.58 | clad|work | bbias, then I'm headed to work |
| 11:26.01 | _neuron_ | I'm using kemayo's details frame, so if he's implementing it in that all I have to do is steal it again :P |
| 11:26.05 | clad|work | _neuron_: you can email me all day if you have any questions, and I can probably get the API all set too |
| 11:26.10 | clad|work | ~logs |
| 11:26.14 | purl | hmm... logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 11:26.14 | vhaarr | clad|work: I believe WoW had unique identifiers for the quests internally, they're just not exposed through the API. |
| 11:26.25 | clad|work | vhaarr: aye, which means we won't get tghem either =) |
| 11:26.28 | clad|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:26.29 | vhaarr | clad|work: Kemayo found them some time ago on worldofwarcraft.com. |
| 11:26.38 | vhaarr | clad|work: Well, it means you could request it from Slouken. |
| 11:26.44 | vhaarr | That it be exposed, I mean. |
| 11:26.48 | nevcairiel | obvioulsy something like that has some unique id somewhere on the internal part ... :) |
| 11:26.49 | clad|work | yes, I'm just not sure we'd get them =) |
| 11:26.51 | Fisker- | how are you getting the database dump from wowhead? |
| 11:26.53 | clad|work | but we do have items, so that would be nice. |
| 11:27.01 | clad|work | Fisker-: much trickery, just straight parsing |
| 11:27.04 | Fisker- | ah |
| 11:27.08 | clad|work | and lots of.. LOTS of parsing |
| 11:27.10 | clad|work | the data dump is easy |
| 11:27.13 | clad|work | parsing it took quite some time |
| 11:27.15 | clad|work | but i have full quest info |
| 11:27.18 | Fisker- | Thought you meant you got the database from wowhead |
| 11:27.19 | clad|work | such as: |
| 11:27.31 | clad|work | ah no |
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| 11:28.00 | clad|work | http://ace.pastey.net/9640 |
| 11:28.12 | clad|work | basically I have a 100% full lua table containing ALL quest information from wowhead |
| 11:28.20 | clad|work | including rewards, rep gains, text, etc. |
| 11:28.39 | _neuron_ | how big is that? |
| 11:28.48 | _neuron_ | and are you seperating horde/alliance quests? |
| 11:28.54 | clad|work | thats 14.2 megs for teh FULL quest DB |
| 11:28.58 | clad|work | its horde or allian |
| 11:29.04 | clad|work | and the files weigh in around 2 megs each |
| 11:29.19 | clad|work | it'll be load on demand for the data once i add the api |
| 11:29.29 | clad|work | first time someone requests info, it'll load the correct data file |
| 11:29.42 | yacoob | clad|work, what kind of addon you're crafting? |
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| 11:29.58 | clad|work | yacoob: i already posted a link to it. |
| 11:30.02 | clad|work | http://ace.pastey.net/9641 |
| 11:30.03 | Punkie` | Does the problem with the L button happen on every screen? |
| 11:30.05 | clad|work | that's what the in-game data files look like |
| 11:30.05 | xlvii | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=86706380&sid=1 |
| 11:30.09 | Punkie` | screen = computer |
| 11:30.10 | clad|work | Punkie`: what do you mean? |
| 11:30.22 | Punkie` | "When I open my quest log using the L key and then hit L again, my computer locks up hard. I can move my mouse but cannot do anything...including alt tab." |
| 11:30.28 | clad|work | Punkie`: thats fixed. |
| 11:30.29 | yacoob | clad|work, ok, but what will it do, that's my question :) |
| 11:30.31 | clad|work | i found the issue last night |
| 11:30.35 | Punkie` | oh yay :) |
| 11:30.38 | clad|work | yacoob: it already does... |
| 11:30.40 | Punkie` | I'll try this out |
| 11:30.50 | clad|work | yacoob: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.htm |
| 11:31.24 | Punkie` | clad|work: is it just mousewheel scroll in that comment frame? |
| 11:31.59 | Punkie` | and you can click a comment to have that popup for reference without the questlog open I guess |
| 11:32.24 | yacoob | clad|work, aha, thanks. Because someone at the guild form was thinking about doing translations for quests |
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| 11:33.04 | yacoob | should I point him to you, in case he's interested using your data/code? |
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| 11:33.26 | clad|work | Punkie`: yes, correct. |
| 11:33.34 | clad|work | yacoob: what do you mean translations> |
| 11:33.49 | clad|work | Punkie`: mouse wheel scrolls right now, and you can click the hyperlinks to open a tooltip with the comment that won't disappear |
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| 11:33.59 | Punkie` | sounds great :) |
| 11:34.19 | yacoob | clad|work, to have additional window (just like yours with comments) but containing full quest text translation |
| 11:34.19 | clad|work | well, its the itemreftooltip, so when you click an item it'll disappear =) |
| 11:34.23 | Punkie` | Do you have an SVN that I can use instead of downloading from WoWi? |
| 11:34.29 | yacoob | to Polish, for example |
| 11:34.53 | clad|work | Punkie`: not at the moment, i'll toss it up somehwere tonight i'm sure. |
| 11:35.06 | Punkie` | that would be great =) |
| 11:35.20 | Punkie` | I just use a script to SVN update my addons, I'm lazy |
| 11:35.30 | Groll | hmm what's that addon called that you bind ur mousekeys to with modifiers to cast spells |
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| 11:36.22 | Groll | found it |
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| 11:37.03 | clad|work | I'm off to work, peace out folks, snag me by email/googletalk if ya need anything |
| 11:37.28 | Punkie` | cya |
| 11:37.39 | xyu | cya hope it works w/ questsfu soon! :D |
| 11:37.46 | Fisker- | Anyone got a snuke up their sniz? |
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| 11:41.29 | Punkie` | nyu |
| 11:41.45 | Fisker- | NO U |
| 11:42.12 | Punkie` | :( |
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| 11:50.15 | Nickenyfiken | hmm is there a addon that only shows a castingbar for my own target and do nothing else? |
| 11:50.39 | yacoob | nicky, if you have agUF, it can show your enemy cb |
| 11:50.40 | mitch0 | what does the red star after an item name on wowwiki mean? |
| 11:50.54 | yacoob | communist addon! |
| 11:50.55 | yacoob | 8) |
| 11:51.00 | nevcairiel | its a red-star item! |
| 11:51.01 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 11:51.24 | mitch0 | ah, it has a tooltip |
| 11:51.34 | mitch0 | it's some wikiism |
| 11:51.53 | Nickenyfiken | yacoob: yeah thats what i did use but i use PitBull now and i miss the darn castingbar :-) |
| 11:53.11 | yacoob | PitBull? |
| 11:53.38 | Nickenyfiken | ya its a UF addon |
| 11:53.48 | Nickenyfiken | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5456.0;topicseen |
| 11:54.22 | Nickenyfiken | but a CB module for it's on the todo |
| 11:54.28 | Nickenyfiken | i just wanted something meanwhile |
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| 12:09.44 | yacoob | nice wtf. |
| 12:10.08 | yacoob | I disable two addons at login screen, log in, they are loaded. Log out, they are enabled. |
| 12:10.15 | yacoob | Truly 'wtf?!?' |
| 12:10.16 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 12:10.19 | yacoob | is it even possible? |
| 12:10.21 | nevcairiel | disabled on the right char? |
| 12:10.29 | yacoob | for all chars |
| 12:10.33 | nevcairiel | some other addon could turn them on, i suppose |
| 12:10.43 | yacoob | nevcairiel, but during the load? |
| 12:10.51 | nevcairiel | are they lod? |
| 12:10.56 | yacoob | I'd understand if they'd turn those on AFTER they load. |
| 12:11.12 | yacoob | Not at all |
| 12:11.28 | yacoob | Both are pally addons, fubar plugin for pally timers and pally power |
| 12:11.47 | nevcairiel | fubar plugins are LoD generally, but i dont think anything would enable it. |
| 12:12.06 | Elkano | even for LoD disabled is disabled |
| 12:12.30 | nevcairiel | but you can turn it on with EnableAddon and LoadAddon |
| 12:12.32 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 12:12.56 | JoshBorke | did you click ok when you disabled them? and then double check that they were disabled before you logged in |
| 12:12.57 | phyber | after an enableAddOn, don't you still need to reloadui though? |
| 12:13.05 | phyber | after that, you could LoadAddOn it |
| 12:13.16 | nevcairiel | if its Load on Demand |
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| 12:13.19 | nevcairiel | you can load it directly |
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| 12:17.37 | Laricwork | yacoob there is a bug somewhere that causes you to get a " :Enabled" in the addons.txt file. Remove that line and it will work as intended again |
| 12:18.31 | Laricwork | it really should be "addonname : Enabled".. |
| 12:18.50 | Laricwork | wow seems to stop reading the addons.txt file after that line is encountered. |
| 12:20.22 | CIA-11 | 03zuno * r31269 10UnitActionBars/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:20.22 | CIA-11 | UnitActionBars: |
| 12:20.22 | CIA-11 | - Fixed support for aguf. Frame names changed. Now supports old and new names (for the time being). |
| 12:20.22 | CIA-11 | - Fixed an issue causing an error when an action was removed, but hostile actions remained (or vice versa) for that same slot. |
| 12:20.22 | CIA-11 | - TOC revision updated. |
| 12:20.33 | Laricwork | yacoob did it solve it? |
| 12:22.18 | yacoob | Laricwork, well, as the pally was going bye bye, so did the addons. But I'll notice your hint, thanks :) |
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| 12:36.36 | cncfanatics | yo ppl |
| 12:36.38 | cncfanatics | omg, exams done |
| 12:36.40 | cncfanatics | HOLIDAY |
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| 12:49.54 | cncfanatics | damn huge irc split lol |
| 12:51.30 | Punkie` | I can't say 14 people is a huge split |
| 12:52.32 | Laricwork | and I thought irc splits was a thing of the past |
| 12:52.43 | SunTiger | there is close to 200 people in this channel |
| 12:52.49 | SunTiger | when that gets reduced to 6 |
| 12:52.52 | SunTiger | thats a huge netsplit. |
| 12:53.01 | SunTiger | it happen a few day's ago. |
| 12:53.13 | Punkie` | yeah, it did |
| 12:55.35 | _neuron_ | SunTiger, that aint a huge split, that's 6 people splitting, and you being one of em :P |
| 12:55.45 | SunTiger | true |
| 12:55.48 | SunTiger | but its still a netsplit |
| 12:55.51 | SunTiger | and it was huge to me. |
| 12:55.54 | _neuron_ | hehe |
| 12:56.24 | nevcairiel | a small split for us .. a large for the ones who got split away :) |
| 12:58.14 | chutwig | it came... from... behind |
| 12:58.33 | SunTiger | stop , drop and roll |
| 12:58.34 | Tenrai | Don't encourage sun\ |
| 12:58.38 | Tenrai | SunTiger, * |
| 12:58.50 | _neuron_ | argh, why isn't scrollframes simply a frame containing other stuff, and handling all the scrolling automatically, doing this manually is friggin annoying. |
| 13:01.27 | vhaarr | yeah, the scrollframe system sucks |
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| 13:02.27 | _neuron_ | guess I gotta split it up and make everything one line if I want this working properly |
| 13:03.33 | cncfanatics | I got about 150 ppl splitting |
| 13:03.36 | cncfanatics | guess it was just a few and I was one of them |
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| 13:04.35 | Necrathex | hi there, does anyone know if it's possible to make Gatherer and Cartographer work together in terms of herb/mining node sharing? |
| 13:05.09 | mitch0 | Necrathex: some carto mod replaces gatherer and can import previous gatherer data, as far as I know |
| 13:05.21 | Stephmw | lol |
| 13:05.23 | Stephmw | We apologise to all Safari users for this inconvenience and also for the mountain or inconveniences browsing the wow-europe website in general. |
| 13:05.30 | Stephmw | from http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.wow-europe.com/266946859.htm |
| 13:05.41 | Necrathex | yes i know that, but half my guild uses gatherer |
| 13:06.06 | Necrathex | so i'd like to receive gathers from both gatherer users as well as cartographer users :) |
| 13:06.23 | _neuron_ | tell em to get with the times and use carto :P |
| 13:06.34 | Necrathex | hm |
| 13:06.49 | Necrathex | i have to say i prefer a combination of carto and gatherer :p |
| 13:07.28 | Necrathex | but i thought maybe there was a mod of carto that catches gatherer broadcasts aswell |
| 13:07.39 | JoshBorke | would be nice, wouldn't it? |
| 13:07.49 | Necrathex | indeed! |
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| 13:10.46 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=267126875&postId=2668430612&sid=1#12 |
| 13:12.31 | Punkie` | Ha ha, oh wow. |
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| 13:15.09 | Elkano | Oo look at node 33: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=Stanford,+California,+United+States&daddr=KTH-hallen,+Stockholm,+Sweden&ie=UTF8&sll=44.590467,-45.351562&sspn=72.777899,141.328125&z=3&ll=48.341646,-52.207031&spn=69.0410%0A77,141.328125&om=1&layer=t |
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| 13:16.29 | Laricwork | elkano.. I suggest you eat some spinach before trying that trip :P |
| 13:16.39 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 13:16.52 | Fisker- | mitch0 he wrote "ommra" in the topic |
| 13:17.12 | Laricwork | what are you gonna do at KTH? run off with the KTH-NOC internet connections? |
| 13:18.22 | Punkie` | Ommra also has ASCII art in sig, go comment |
| 13:18.31 | vhaarr | Elkano: hahaha |
| 13:19.05 | echos | lol Swim accros the atlantic ocean 3462 mi |
| 13:19.16 | Fisker- | nah Punkie` |
| 13:19.25 | Fisker- | after i told them that they changed the rules to "Large ascii art" |
| 13:19.41 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 13:19.50 | Laricwork | how can you have large ascii art in your sig.. there is no room for it |
| 13:19.59 | Punkie` | durr |
| 13:20.25 | Punkie` | welcome to the point, is it nice here? |
| 13:21.03 | JoshBorke | 300 fishing! woohoo! |
| 13:21.06 | mitch0 | wtf cares about ascii art sigs anyway (apart from finding them slightly annoying) |
| 13:21.17 | mitch0 | JoshBorke: now only 75 to go :) |
| 13:21.36 | mitch0 | I'm around 290 now and hate it pretty much already :) |
| 13:22.18 | Fisker- | Laricwork no but you could post large ascii art |
| 13:22.28 | Fisker- | I was banned for posting an o rly owl |
| 13:22.37 | Punkie` | nyu |
| 13:22.40 | Fisker- | Then i said it was fucking lame ommra had an ascii cow in his sig |
| 13:22.42 | JoshBorke | mitch0: i did 270-300 fishing deviate fish |
| 13:22.49 | Fisker- | then the rule got changed to "Large ascii art in posts" |
| 13:22.55 | JoshBorke | read somewhere they make you immune to polymorph |
| 13:22.59 | mitch0 | JoshBorke: do they sell well? |
| 13:23.05 | JoshBorke | depends i thkn |
| 13:23.05 | ilifin | I did 1-375 fishing in stormwind |
| 13:23.15 | Punkie` | JoshBorke: I did 50 - 375 fishing deviate fish |
| 13:23.27 | Punkie` | and no, they don't make you immune to poly |
| 13:23.37 | mitch0 | but do they sell well? :) |
| 13:23.41 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 13:23.57 | Punkie` | on our server you can get like 75s - 1g50 per cooked fish |
| 13:23.58 | mitch0 | I did most of my fishing in Darnassus so far. less likely to be annoyed there for portals and such |
| 13:24.33 | mitch0 | and I can monitor the trade chennels for interesting stuff. not that I have much money to spend :) |
| 13:24.41 | mitch0 | where do you go fish for deviate fish? |
| 13:24.47 | Punkie` | teh barrens |
| 13:25.06 | JoshBorke | Punkie`: they don't make you immune anymore? :-( |
| 13:25.08 | JoshBorke | that sucks |
| 13:25.26 | Punkie` | Well I duelled a mage the other day, and I was pigged :[ |
| 13:25.54 | JoshBorke | but what about PvE? |
| 13:26.17 | Punkie` | Uhh, well I was sheeped at Aran I suppose too |
| 13:26.18 | JoshBorke | now i have to go farm for the recipe |
| 13:26.26 | Laricwork | josh you will be a sheep.. but have the gfx of the pirate |
| 13:26.40 | Punkie` | for me, i have the graphics of a sheep |
| 13:26.49 | JoshBorke | heh, alright |
| 13:26.50 | Laricwork | atleast that is what it was 6 months ago |
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| 13:27.26 | mitch0 | any point in looking like a pirate? confusing enemies in pvp? or what? |
| 13:27.54 | JoshBorke | yea, it would help in arenas i bet |
| 13:28.12 | Punkie` | No reason |
| 13:28.18 | Wiebbe | just create a full pirate team |
| 13:28.27 | Wiebbe | no one knows what class you are by looking ^^ |
| 13:28.40 | mitch0 | guess most have some class-info addon |
| 13:28.45 | Wiebbe | sure |
| 13:28.52 | Wiebbe | but i guess they dont "count" on it |
| 13:28.53 | evl | ArenaMaster is a good one |
| 13:29.02 | Wiebbe | ie, visual is still important while fighting |
| 13:29.24 | Punkie` | It used to be better anyway |
| 13:29.36 | mitch0 | so, where do I go fish for these? |
| 13:29.46 | Punkie` | I already told you |
| 13:29.53 | mitch0 | oo |
| 13:29.57 | mitch0 | missed that /scrollback |
| 13:30.15 | mitch0 | barrens? that sucks, the horde will pester me no end :) |
| 13:30.30 | Punkie` | well, i fished from ~50 to 375 there |
| 13:30.34 | Punkie` | never got ganked once |
| 13:31.01 | mitch0 | isn't there an ally area where one can fish for them? |
| 13:31.07 | Punkie` | nope |
| 13:31.17 | mitch0 | strange ;) |
| 13:31.56 | JoshBorke | fish right outside wailing caverns |
| 13:32.02 | JoshBorke | then you can just run in the instance if they attack |
| 13:32.26 | Punkie` | or beat on them with your rod |
| 13:33.59 | xyu | some of those fishing poles hurt |
| 13:34.03 | xyu | and they give you like a million hp |
| 13:34.15 | Punkie` | just the one |
| 13:34.36 | JoshBorke | oh! i can do that quest soon! |
| 13:34.37 | xyu | it's still unfair that horde get that easy ass quest for that badass fishing pole |
| 13:34.42 | Punkie` | you have no idea how annoying it is being a melee class and getting ganked while fishing |
| 13:34.47 | Punkie` | unless you are also melee and fish |
| 13:34.57 | JoshBorke | xyu: the +20 one isn't so bad |
| 13:35.03 | evl | what's annoying |
| 13:35.14 | JoshBorke | ~dict annoying |
| 13:35.15 | xyu | yeah the +20 has to be farmed or bought |
| 13:35.24 | xyu | it took me 2 hours i think |
| 13:35.28 | xyu | of opening those cages |
| 13:35.32 | xyu | to get mine |
| 13:35.35 | evl | which i exploited to the *fullest* yesterday is that Illidan announces when you start the event at Crimson Hold, /who <player>? if not horde then go grief |
| 13:35.37 | JoshBorke | wow, took me only like 15-20 minutes |
| 13:35.47 | xyu | are you a druid by chance? |
| 13:35.53 | JoshBorke | priest |
| 13:35.59 | JoshBorke | but i had leftover water breathing apples |
| 13:36.01 | JoshBorke | from nagraand |
| 13:36.05 | xyu | well i had deepdive helm |
| 13:36.11 | xyu | and this was a long time ago |
| 13:36.18 | xyu | they may have increased the drop rate |
| 13:36.24 | JoshBorke | mine was more recent |
| 13:36.30 | JoshBorke | cleared the field twice |
| 13:36.31 | JoshBorke | and got it |
| 13:37.13 | xyu | i have to get fishing up on my new lvl 70. not because i like fishing or even use it, but because i'm a skill whore and am not happy until all my bars are at exalted,375, or whatever is max :/ |
| 13:37.18 | xyu | i hate it |
| 13:37.27 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 13:37.34 | Daemona | Head -> Wall |
| 13:37.35 | Daemona | Subject: Addons with Windows Vista |
| 13:37.36 | Daemona | |
| 13:37.36 | Daemona | i'm not that big a fan of addons, but as a feral druid who is being asked to change form more and more frequently Outfitter seemed like a good bet. i've used gatherer while i was on xp so i know where to put the files, but since i went all vista addons don't seem to work. |
| 13:37.36 | Daemona | anyone else have this problem? or have any advice? |
| 13:38.03 | Daemona | Aeus: AddOns are very much OS independent... What exactly is not working? |
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| 13:38.14 | ilifin | hah |
| 13:38.15 | xyu | i'm lost |
| 13:38.19 | xyu | oh |
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| 13:41.30 | Punkie` | Man, fishing + being a gnome = suck |
| 13:41.45 | Punkie` | I'm too short to fish pools to far into the water :( |
| 13:41.52 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 13:42.14 | ilifin | word up Punkie` |
| 13:42.19 | ilifin | fishing contest as gnome is qq |
| 13:42.38 | JoshBorke | Daemona: um, there shouldn't be any difference between operating systems |
| 13:42.45 | xyu | do people still do that fishing contest? |
| 13:42.50 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 13:42.51 | JoshBorke | xyu: yes |
| 13:42.52 | xyu | or can i stroll up and get it? |
| 13:42.53 | xyu | dammit |
| 13:42.59 | Punkie` | on my server it's insane how many people do it |
| 13:43.09 | Punkie` | like 3 people per pool |
| 13:43.14 | Punkie` | it's retarded |
| 13:43.14 | xyu | wow |
| 13:43.18 | xyu | PvP? |
| 13:43.21 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 13:43.43 | wereHamster | JoshBorke, roght, everyone should just use windows :P |
| 13:43.44 | xyu | i've never done it once. what time does it start 2 server? |
| 13:43.57 | Punkie` | 2 server time yeah |
| 13:44.08 | mitch0 | on bloodscalp it's crazy, too. I thought it would be easy win and I got ganked to pieces :) |
| 13:44.10 | xyu | ugh that's like 3am my time. |
| 13:44.35 | Punkie` | wait, what? |
| 13:44.37 | xyu | if there's one craft in any MMO that has crazy zeolot like following it's fishing |
| 13:44.56 | Punkie` | DO YOU PLAY ACROSS THE OCEAN? |
| 13:44.59 | xyu | yes |
| 13:45.02 | xyu | taiwan |
| 13:45.18 | Punkie` | that sucks |
| 13:45.25 | Punkie` | can you even get a guild like that? |
| 13:45.28 | JoshBorke | wereHamster: wrt addons :-P |
| 13:45.37 | xyu | tell me about it. 700ms ping on a mage in the arenas can drive one crazy |
| 13:45.49 | xyu | rogues get about 4 hits in before my blink decides to work |
| 13:45.56 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 13:46.24 | xyu | oh and dont' get me started on raiding naxx w/ that ping. DDR fights for the lose. |
| 13:46.48 | Punkie` | must get pretty boring |
| 13:46.51 | xyu | anyway i'm going to be in the states may 13th. back to my 17ms ping. I won't know what to do with myself |
| 13:48.09 | xyu | what i love about my ping is when i'm running forward and cast blink and the blink actually makes me travel backwards because my client ran further than the blink would have taken me. |
| 13:48.25 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 13:48.39 | JoshBorke | xyu: gank every rogue you encounter? |
| 13:48.45 | Punkie` | I doubt I could play wow under those conditions ;P |
| 13:48.59 | xyu | yes, i still do decent vs rogues. I don't mind fighting them. |
| 13:49.16 | xyu | I dont mind fighting anyone really. warlocks and hunters i just run away from. |
| 13:49.24 | xyu | or alt F4 and pretend nothing happened |
| 13:49.39 | xyu | bottle up my shame and then log back on |
| 13:50.05 | xyu | rogues are pretty scripted fights though |
| 13:50.39 | chutwig | i want to find a rogue farming |
| 13:50.42 | chutwig | so i can vengeance gank him |
| 13:50.50 | chutwig | but somehow they're always the ones who find me :( |
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| 13:51.36 | xyu | I've found that shamans have forgotten how to use grounding totem. |
| 13:51.43 | xyu | Every shaman i meet in the arena |
| 13:51.44 | xyu | never uses it |
| 13:51.47 | deltron | xyu: they are retarded shaman then |
| 13:51.53 | xyu | yes, yes they are |
| 13:51.56 | chutwig | i do not like grounding totem |
| 13:52.00 | chutwig | or tremor |
| 13:52.16 | deltron | i <3 them |
| 13:52.24 | deltron | grounding totem is so awesome |
| 13:52.25 | chutwig | i especially don't like that skill coil doesn't actually destroy the grounding totem |
| 13:52.27 | xyu | yes it is |
| 13:52.32 | xyu | when used right |
| 13:52.47 | chutwig | you'd be hard pressed to use it "wrong" |
| 13:52.52 | xyu | well |
| 13:52.57 | xyu | take blade's edge |
| 13:53.02 | Punkie` | I like my 1min cooldown CloS kthx |
| 13:53.07 | xyu | often times the shaman and his croneys will go up on the bridge nad lay down 1000 totems |
| 13:53.14 | xyu | and then we're at sort of that 2 second standoff |
| 13:53.14 | chutwig | oh my god it's a warrior GROUNDING TOTEM DOWN |
| 13:53.18 | xyu | when people are yelling on vent |
| 13:53.19 | xyu | what to kil |
| 13:53.33 | xyu | i just target said grounding remove it. then commence the fight. :D |
| 13:53.39 | xyu | but if the shammy would just wait |
| 13:53.41 | chutwig | between cloak of skill and ezmode wotf |
| 13:53.42 | xyu | until the fight engages |
| 13:53.49 | chutwig | an undead rogue can fuck up pretty much everything and still kill me |
| 13:54.11 | deltron | I never have met an alliance shaman that is skilled yet |
| 13:54.19 | xyu | haha yeah. me either |
| 13:54.22 | xyu | honostly. none. |
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| 13:54.34 | sbu | rogue + ms warrior focus shaman -> dead in <5s |
| 13:54.39 | xyu | i see them casting lightning bolt w/ rogues on them and shit |
| 13:54.57 | chutwig | we have one shaman who's decent and pvps a lot |
| 13:55.03 | chutwig | but he has a severely overrated opinion of the class |
| 13:55.14 | xyu | i am loving pally in 2v2, and 3v3. i'm having so much fun' |
| 13:55.17 | xyu | i feel so useful :D |
| 13:55.27 | sbu | mh, well... :p |
| 13:55.31 | chutwig | i kind of pissed on his parade last night in heroic BF when i told him that shamans are pretty much the single worst and most useless class to take to a heroic |
| 13:55.31 | deltron | I don't see all that much use for shaman in arena |
| 13:55.42 | sbu | deltron: bloodlust is uber |
| 13:55.47 | sbu | in arena |
| 13:55.58 | deltron | i've never stepped foot in the rated arenas yet |
| 13:56.02 | sbu | ahh ok |
| 13:56.03 | xyu | haha chutwig. i take them just for windfury |
| 13:56.08 | xyu | they can pop down the totem |
| 13:56.08 | xyu | and AFK |
| 13:56.10 | xyu | for all i care |
| 13:56.16 | deltron | again |
| 13:56.21 | chutwig | xyu: well resto shamans are okay |
| 13:56.23 | chutwig | but enh/elem? |
| 13:56.25 | deltron | windfury is on the same totem as grounding |
| 13:56.29 | chutwig | get them the fuck out and give me some more CC |
| 13:56.34 | deltron | I'd rather have grounding down instead of windfury |
| 13:56.34 | xyu | yeah not for pvp dal. |
| 13:56.40 | xyu | in heroic dungeons? |
| 13:56.45 | ilifin | enhancement shamans are COOL, but they generate way too much threat |
| 13:56.50 | deltron | it's all situational |
| 13:56.54 | ilifin | since the -15% talent is completely broken |
| 13:57.08 | xyu | is it really? i've often wondered |
| 13:57.12 | chutwig | unless you have at least 2 CC slots filled |
| 13:57.13 | kenlyric | they need to hit fade |
| 13:57.13 | xyu | damn shamans taking aggro every 3 seconds |
| 13:57.14 | chutwig | shamans are bad |
| 13:57.16 | ilifin | WF procs are 100% |
| 13:57.20 | chutwig | so you need mage/hunter, mage/warlock, whatever |
| 13:57.21 | ilifin | only white damage gets 85% |
| 13:57.26 | xyu | oh wow |
| 13:57.26 | deltron | I've been resto for well over a year now, just went enh heh |
| 13:57.27 | ilifin | so it's pretty useless |
| 13:58.03 | deltron | shaman are pretty broken as far as mana use goes |
| 13:58.18 | ilifin | thanks, I keep getting laughed at guildie priests for manausage whining |
| 13:58.19 | xyu | working as intended imo |
| 13:58.29 | ilifin | 622 mana for a 2.5k heal on level 64 |
| 13:58.30 | chutwig | deltron: they're supposed to be |
| 13:58.33 | ilifin | it's pretty wtf |
| 13:58.44 | xyu | yeah i think that's how it should work |
| 13:58.51 | kenlyric | that's why shammies are the +int healing class. |
| 13:58.59 | deltron | we have very little way to regen mana |
| 13:59.02 | chutwig | conversely, though, i think paladins are too efficient |
| 13:59.09 | xyu | we are |
| 13:59.11 | sbu | yep :/ |
| 13:59.20 | deltron | I have well over 11K in my healing set when I was resto, and I'd go oom twice during most boss fights |
| 13:59.21 | xyu | i had a 2v2 vs 2 holy priest |
| 13:59.22 | sbu | that crit-healing stuff is not fair :o |
| 13:59.24 | xyu | mana burning me over and over |
| 13:59.30 | chutwig | yeah |
| 13:59.34 | xyu | and my blessing of wisdom plus seal |
| 13:59.35 | chutwig | pre-BC illumination was okay |
| 13:59.37 | xyu | just kept regening |
| 13:59.37 | chutwig | but now |
| 13:59.38 | kenlyric | paladins are mana innefficient on big heals. |
| 13:59.44 | xyu | yeah our big heals blow. |
| 13:59.50 | xyu | for mana efficiency |
| 13:59.53 | chutwig | except for the fact that like every 1 in 4 crits |
| 13:59.59 | ilifin | how much does FoL cost again |
| 13:59.59 | chutwig | if you have gear worth a shit at all |
| 14:00.00 | deltron | unless pally has huge +crit |
| 14:00.00 | ilifin | 150 mana? |
| 14:00.01 | chutwig | 180 |
| 14:00.05 | ilifin | that's just sick |
| 14:00.17 | ilifin | 361 for my LHW on 64 as resto |
| 14:00.26 | sbu | no.. the sick part is |
| 14:00.28 | chutwig | LHW heals for more base, though |
| 14:00.32 | chutwig | FoL is bad in pvp, LHW is good |
| 14:00.32 | sbu | they get it for free on crit :/ |
| 14:00.43 | ilifin | I don't give a damn about pvp atm |
| 14:00.52 | deltron | pvp is boring |
| 14:01.02 | xyu | i throw a few flashes for the resillience 24 boost |
| 14:01.09 | xyu | and i spelled that wrong |
| 14:01.15 | chutwig | i'm going to do a little arena for felweave robe |
| 14:01.19 | kenlyric | I've been trying to work out what each healing class is best at, and what blizzard sees as their role in a 25 man raid environment. |
| 14:01.27 | chutwig | because outside of t4 and t5 there isn't a single epic warlock robe until hydross |
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| 14:02.12 | xyu | i want to be a pally MT once i get some tanking gear. |
| 14:02.19 | deltron | heh |
| 14:02.21 | ilifin | pally mt |
| 14:02.22 | ilifin | oh yes |
| 14:02.28 | xyu | i've never played a melee class, ever in any game |
| 14:02.28 | chutwig | paladins can't really MT well |
| 14:02.36 | xyu | except MAYBE i'd count UO. |
| 14:02.37 | chutwig | the gear doesn't budget enough to stamina |
| 14:02.37 | ilifin | not enough mitigation |
| 14:02.40 | kenlyric | Initial impression is that priests are best at big heals and emergency fast heals, shammies are best at infrequent group heals, druids best at dots, and paladins best at normal quick healing. |
| 14:02.41 | xyu | when i carried a quarterstaff of pwnass |
| 14:02.47 | deltron | xyu: i've always been hybrids in almost all games |
| 14:02.51 | kenlyric | together that runs the gamut of the types of healing that help a raid. |
| 14:02.55 | chutwig | paladin tanking is best for cleanup tanking |
| 14:02.57 | xyu | i'm a purist :/ |
| 14:03.07 | chutwig | like, for example, if you have a boss that spawns smaller adds |
| 14:03.13 | xyu | well i've seen vids of a pally tanking the first 7 bosses of kara |
| 14:03.17 | kenlyric | paladins rock for aoe tanking |
| 14:03.19 | chutwig | not saying they can't |
| 14:03.24 | chutwig | just saying it's not what they're best at |
| 14:03.37 | xyu | yeah they're bad at tanking slow hitters |
| 14:03.50 | kenlyric | paladins can hold aggro on 15 mobs far better than a warrior, in my experience. |
| 14:03.58 | chutwig | paladins excel when they're being hit by a lot of things at once |
| 14:03.59 | xyu | oh yes |
| 14:04.01 | xyu | much better |
| 14:04.07 | chutwig | because of the threat generation from ret aura + sanctuary |
| 14:04.08 | xyu | because all our aggro is "activate and forget about it" |
| 14:04.19 | kenlyric | though, not holy paladins, I've discovered the hard way :) |
| 14:04.25 | chutwig | shield spike as well |
| 14:04.53 | chutwig | that's where paladins are best |
| 14:05.09 | chutwig | on something like, say, gruul, the gear doesn't have enough stamina or mitigation to make you last for long |
| 14:05.51 | xyu | ? i can mitigate pretty damn close to what a warrior can. |
| 14:05.56 | xyu | not AS good |
| 14:05.56 | xyu | but close |
| 14:06.05 | chutwig | says the brand new naive belfadin |
| 14:06.20 | xyu | i did research! |
| 14:06.28 | kenlyric | I've discovered that I don't accept "close" anymore. |
| 14:06.38 | chutwig | i was a grizzled hardened dorfadin |
| 14:06.53 | kenlyric | Like those fury warriors that used to say "I can tank just fine". Sure, but you could tank better as prot, so go away. |
| 14:07.10 | chutwig | paladins have their place as tanks, but it's not as an MT on a hard-hitting boss |
| 14:07.16 | Mikma | holy fuck. i'm testing PriceMaster -addon |
| 14:07.35 | Mikma | it's hogging 15MiB of memory |
| 14:07.38 | chutwig | where you need shield block and every last hundredth of a percent of dodge and parry |
| 14:07.48 | xyu | yeah |
| 14:07.52 | xyu | i agree w/ that |
| 14:08.02 | xyu | but there are some bosses that warriors aren't the best at as well |
| 14:08.06 | chutwig | for karazhan with decent gear, sure, it's fine |
| 14:08.26 | chutwig | but even then i don't think you'd choose a paladin to tank first over a warrior unless you needed to |
| 14:09.12 | Mikma | ~assclown |
| 14:09.24 | purl | Mikma: you. |
| 14:09.25 | chutwig | i'm not ragging on paladins, i played one a year and a half, but it's unrealistic to think they can do everything as well as warriors |
| 14:09.47 | xyu | i could tank instances like shattered halls though right? |
| 14:09.48 | xyu | you think? |
| 14:09.51 | xyu | all those 5 mans |
| 14:09.55 | chutwig | yeah |
| 14:09.59 | chutwig | i tanked 5-mans |
| 14:10.01 | xyu | k, then that's fine w/ me for now |
| 14:10.24 | xyu | i just want to try a different aspect of the game. i have a 70 priest i can heal w/ i'm tired of being a healing bitch. |
| 14:10.31 | xyu | i want to be in front of the mob for once. |
| 14:10.50 | chutwig | my main concern is that paladin tank gear has the attributes split in too many different ways to assign as much to stamina and defense as should be |
| 14:11.08 | xyu | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:11.15 | xyu | i think that's the big difference |
| 14:11.22 | chutwig | i think they put more into int than is necessary |
| 14:11.35 | xyu | on the itemization? |
| 14:11.41 | chutwig | yeah |
| 14:11.50 | nevcairiel | crushing is only a big issue on raid bosses, where you really always should get a warrior |
| 14:11.52 | chutwig | a paladin tank doesn't need a large mana pool with spiritual attunement |
| 14:12.28 | chutwig | you're going to have a constant stream of incoming heals that will keep you near full mana |
| 14:12.30 | xyu | what if the pally stacked a ton of avoidance? |
| 14:12.35 | xyu | would that help for big boss encounters |
| 14:12.38 | xyu | i know its kind of iffy |
| 14:13.04 | chutwig | another problem is that there's no strength on paladin tanking gear |
| 14:13.11 | chutwig | so when you block it's going to be for a lot less |
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| 14:13.37 | xyu | If there was a way to make Rebout an activated skill I think there's really a chance for us |
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| 14:13.54 | chutwig | that's why paladins are good at smaller mob cleanup, though |
| 14:14.07 | chutwig | with several mobs hitting you redoubt and reckoning will be active the entire time |
| 14:14.19 | chutwig | completely passively |
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| 14:16.26 | chutwig | so you pretty much just spam consecrate while everyone else takes the mobs down |
| 14:16.26 | chutwig | it could hardly get any easier |
| 14:16.26 | xyu | ok, well i'll be happy just being able to tank all the 5 manners for now. I can collect some decent healing gear along the way. |
| 14:16.44 | Health | Let's use the best healers in game for tanking! gg! |
| 14:17.22 | kenlyric | fuck you blizzard |
| 14:17.24 | krka | that statement on its own is not necessarily wrong |
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| 14:19.51 | sbu | heh <3 mass dispel in arena :) |
| 14:20.41 | kenlyric | try it in karazhan :) |
| 14:20.46 | kenlyric | it's "fun" |
| 14:20.57 | sbu | hmmm - why? :o |
| 14:21.26 | sbu | well i know sometimes its not working - but whats the 'fun' part? :o |
| 14:21.29 | kenlyric | well, it lands on 10 targets at once. Try to imagine what kind of threat that creates :) |
| 14:21.42 | sbu | hmm - never hat any problem with that |
| 14:21.45 | xyu | i'm glad i wasn't a pally when i had the privilage of having hte bubble last the whole time. |
| 14:21.52 | xyu | when my bubble gets dispelled, i dont even care o_O |
| 14:21.54 | kenlyric | and unlike normal dispel, it actually works against all 10 targets, doesn't fail if they have nothing to remove. |
| 14:21.57 | xyu | i got the heal i needed off. |
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| 14:23.03 | xyu | even if i do get it dispelled people are so used to it still being on all the people targetting me usually drop target and go for that mage who's immune to melee |
| 14:23.05 | sbu | xyu: hm yep, but your bubbled target (that thing you can put on others...) or ice block mages cannot cast heals :p |
| 14:23.20 | xyu | that is true :) |
| 14:23.38 | xyu | i did get my iceblock removed. but you know what. i don't really care about that either. to be honost |
| 14:23.44 | xyu | i just use it to clean up dots mosty |
| 14:23.45 | xyu | mostly |
| 14:23.54 | xyu | or to get out of a freezing trap. |
| 14:24.02 | xyu | (after the hunter still aim shots me) |
| 14:24.10 | sbu | ah well and something else ;o |
| 14:24.23 | xyu | but really, so many crying pallies on the boards about mass dispell |
| 14:24.24 | xyu | wahhwahh |
| 14:24.39 | sbu | in arena most pallys bubble (at low health) and start healing others first (because they are 'immune' :o) |
| 14:24.44 | sbu | so -> dispell -> death pally :p |
| 14:25.11 | nevcairiel | pallys bubble often to get out of stuns or so |
| 14:25.22 | chutwig | i swear every week they reduce the drop rate on motes of fire even more |
| 14:25.24 | nevcairiel | or when i cyclone them, they bubble after the cyclone is over so i cannot recast |
| 14:25.29 | xyu | yeah i've found there are 2 kinds. Those ones who bubble when they're just about dead, and the ones who bubble 2 seconds into the battle |
| 14:25.31 | xyu | i love both of them haha |
| 14:25.47 | kenlyric | chutwig, they drop just fine from mining nodes :) |
| 14:26.37 | chutwig | golly ken thanks for that swell advice |
| 14:27.13 | sbu | ah hm - did i already mention that the restore mana on spellcast meta gem is just retarded? :/ 5 yellow gems - wtf *sigh* |
| 14:27.23 | sbu | so i have to get this 50% cast time gem... |
| 14:27.50 | nevcairiel | what class? |
| 14:28.05 | kenlyric | sbu: yeah, it's pretty stupid. |
| 14:28.07 | sbu | priest |
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| 14:28.14 | mitch0 | sbu: you know you can use green and orange gems, too, right? |
| 14:28.16 | kenlyric | I can't find a metagem I want. |
| 14:28.18 | sbu | yep |
| 14:28.21 | sbu | i know |
| 14:28.23 | nevcairiel | i use the 26 healing gem |
| 14:28.27 | kenlyric | there just aren't yellow slots on priest gear. |
| 14:28.35 | sbu | yep :/ |
| 14:28.43 | chutwig | the +18 stam/5% stun resist was nice |
| 14:28.47 | mitch0 | but there are loads of blue, right? |
| 14:28.47 | kenlyric | and the gems that go in yellow slots aren't the best.. you only use them if you care about the set bonus. |
| 14:28.52 | mitch0 | so just stick 5 greens in them |
| 14:29.07 | sbu | and where do i get 5 blue + red? :/ |
| 14:29.10 | nevcairiel | green would be 2 mana regen und 4 int or so |
| 14:29.12 | kenlyric | blue slots take blue gems better. |
| 14:29.26 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: which sucks for a priest. 3 mana regen is better. |
| 14:29.35 | sbu | i wanna have those 2mp5 + 9heal gem in blue+red slots :/ |
| 14:29.38 | nevcairiel | not if you have to fill yellow slots |
| 14:29.39 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 14:30.12 | sbu | i guess its some druid + shaman gem |
| 14:30.17 | sbu | since they have enough yellow |
| 14:30.19 | Cowboy__ | i guess i'm lucky as a hunter with gems |
| 14:30.26 | Cowboy__ | the 24 ap + run speed is nice and simple |
| 14:30.26 | nevcairiel | i could get so much more out of my gear with the right gems |
| 14:30.30 | Cowboy__ | and i'm alch, so.. |
| 14:30.35 | nevcairiel | but i want the meta bonus thing |
| 14:30.40 | nevcairiel | more yellow/red then blue. |
| 14:30.43 | nevcairiel | which sucks balls |
| 14:30.50 | sbu | nevcairiel: yep... :/ |
| 14:31.12 | sbu | so im going for 50% spellcast - well - its ok i guess (for now) |
| 14:31.16 | kenlyric | http://wiki.monolithicguild.com/User:Kenlyric#Gems |
| 14:31.28 | sbu | need +9 healing socket bonus on head ;p |
| 14:31.37 | kenlyric | I just hope it's a long time until I need a meta gem. |
| 14:31.45 | kenlyric | I might just get the run speed enhancment one :) |
| 14:31.59 | nevcairiel | i have some +18 healing too |
| 14:32.00 | nevcairiel | for red |
| 14:32.02 | nevcairiel | its not too bad |
| 14:37.04 | sbu | i think 9heal / +2mp5 is better than 18 heal - but well, depends :) |
| 14:38.24 | sbu | and well... its just stupid that a 'good' should pick tailoring + enchanting :/ |
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| 14:38.42 | sbu | +40 heal on rings and primal mooncloth is way to overpowered... :/ (and BOP *sigh) |
| 14:39.13 | sbu | as engineer i dont get anything :o |
| 14:39.30 | sbu | and i refuse to reroll professions... :p |
| 14:39.30 | mitch0 | too bad echnanting eats up all my money |
| 14:39.37 | sbu | hmyep |
| 14:39.50 | mitch0 | but I can't wait for the +12 dmg on rings |
| 14:39.59 | kenlyric | I'm considering going tailoring, but afraid they will nerf the set. |
| 14:40.14 | sbu | i hope so :o |
| 14:40.20 | deltron | getting the last 15 points in enchanting is starting to get painful |
| 14:40.28 | sbu | -30heal and -5mp5 from every item would do just fine ;o |
| 14:40.29 | mitch0 | starting? :) |
| 14:40.37 | [Ammo] | afternoon |
| 14:41.02 | kenlyric | sbu: I'm worried about the 5% mana regen set bonus getting changed to something static. |
| 14:43.13 | sbu | as they did it with tier2 bonus? |
| 14:43.25 | sbu | hmm well... |
| 14:43.55 | sbu | kenlyric: stacks with meditation spec? |
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| 14:44.20 | kenlyric | at 700 spirit raid buffed, that's a pretty significant set bonus for me. |
| 14:44.29 | sbu | 700??? |
| 14:44.31 | sbu | wtf |
| 14:44.45 | sbu | armory url plz :p |
| 14:45.21 | kenlyric | armory isn't going to show you raid buffs, but here http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kargath&n=Kenlyric |
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| 14:46.28 | sbu | yeah but since i'm at ~450 w/ spirit buff thats some hueg difference ;o |
| 14:46.43 | kenlyric | well, human spirit helps :) |
| 14:46.54 | sbu | +10%? |
| 14:46.57 | kenlyric | yup. |
| 14:47.01 | sbu | meh :/ |
| 14:47.07 | kenlyric | and the primary reason I rerolled human |
| 14:47.34 | sbu | *sigh* nerf alliance ;p |
| 14:47.50 | xyu | is spirit in now? |
| 14:48.00 | xyu | hawt diggity! |
| 14:48.36 | sbu | kenlyric: http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Khaz%27goroth&n=Smb |
| 14:48.38 | kenlyric | xyu, well, if I can work it into a fight, it's super sexy hot. |
| 14:48.38 | sbu | thats me :o |
| 14:48.43 | xyu | spirit was unstoppable in closed beta. /unreal noise* |
| 14:48.49 | kenlyric | but fights like shade of aran... meh. |
| 14:49.15 | kenlyric | If I can keep my time in 5sr under 80%, it's pretty nice regen. |
| 14:49.38 | xyu | where's that heavenly inspiration from? |
| 14:49.43 | knarf- | quest |
| 14:49.45 | sbu | netherstorm quest |
| 14:49.46 | knarf- | in netherstorm |
| 14:49.53 | knarf- | its imba :P |
| 14:49.53 | xyu | kk thx |
| 14:49.57 | xyu | no kidding |
| 14:50.12 | kenlyric | I haven't really found anything decent to go with it. |
| 14:50.33 | sbu | that +spirit proc trinket from COT is nice |
| 14:50.36 | kenlyric | spell haste. WTF do I need with spell haste. So I can go oom faster? |
| 14:50.37 | knarf- | xyu http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10417 |
| 14:50.43 | kenlyric | yeah yeah :) |
| 14:50.45 | xyu | knarf-: thanks |
| 14:50.48 | kenlyric | I want it bad |
| 14:50.50 | xyu | i'm doing Netherstorm quests right now actually |
| 14:51.08 | kenlyric | I need bracers too. |
| 14:51.13 | Xabin | http://www.thottbot.com/i28370 <-- rawr |
| 14:51.14 | sbu | yep :/ |
| 14:51.15 | sbu | same here |
| 14:51.20 | sbu | aran bracers *sigh* :p |
| 14:51.28 | sbu | well i now have 3 trinkets and dont know which one to use... |
| 14:51.33 | sbu | (for 1 slot) |
| 14:51.34 | kenlyric | those of the prophet bracers from the... bat boss? those are nice. |
| 14:51.40 | kenlyric | which trinkets? |
| 14:51.43 | sbu | uhm wait :) |
| 14:52.00 | nevcairiel | i use alchemyst stone and essence of the martyr |
| 14:52.21 | nevcairiel | or shard of the scale, depending on fight |
| 14:52.31 | kenlyric | shard of the scale would be nice if I had ever seen one. |
| 14:52.36 | kenlyric | (or seen onyxia with this toon) |
| 14:52.41 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 14:52.53 | sbu | http://thottbot.com/i28727 / http://thottbot.com/i30293 / http://thottbot.com/i28370 |
| 14:52.55 | kenlyric | I saw no shards of the scale and only one rejuv gem on my old priest. |
| 14:53.10 | nevcairiel | ive seen alot rejuv gems |
| 14:53.13 | sbu | i wont abandon my rejuv. gem :p |
| 14:53.13 | nevcairiel | but never ever got one |
| 14:53.43 | kenlyric | meh, rejuv gem. |
| 14:54.04 | nevcairiel | i would use the mana regen thing, from botanica |
| 14:54.22 | sbu | kenlyric: heavenly insp. is goog for general mana-reg, violet thing is nice for mana reg while casting and endless blessings thing is nice for mana reg while NOT casting :p |
| 14:54.25 | sbu | *sigh* |
| 14:54.54 | sbu | its nice w/ julianne robe proc |
| 14:55.05 | kenlyric | damn her for not giving me my robe. |
| 14:55.07 | knarf- | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Twilight's+Hammer&n=Ahnaki <-- thats me :> |
| 14:55.11 | Cowboy__ | ok, finished my ah search script -> http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7027-CowboysAuctionSearch.html |
| 14:55.18 | Cowboy__ | thanks for the help yesterday guys |
| 14:55.21 | kenlyric | Pendant of the violet eye... remember it'll proc off any spell cast :) |
| 14:55.28 | kenlyric | Less heal rank1, for instance :) |
| 14:55.35 | sbu | kenlyric: yep - but regen lasts only 15s |
| 14:55.53 | sbu | so if you put out 5 casts in 10s, you have 5s left for 5x regen |
| 14:55.59 | Cowboy__ | i got Scarab of the Infinite Cycle the other day, but it doesn't proc off of Mend Pet |
| 14:56.03 | Cowboy__ | so i vendored it |
| 14:56.07 | knarf- | I just love when the amory is updated when i'm mount, it usually is :/ |
| 14:56.15 | kenlyric | I'd treat it like the shadowfiend. Though honestly, I probably wouldn't use it. |
| 14:56.25 | kenlyric | I like continuous benefit things usually. |
| 14:56.45 | nevcairiel | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Antonidas&n=Nevcairiel |
| 14:56.46 | nevcairiel | thats me |
| 14:56.47 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:56.51 | kenlyric | I only use scarab because I have nothing else to go in that slot. |
| 14:57.10 | sbu | yeah because trigger things are only effective if used instantly when cooldown is finished :/ |
| 14:57.11 | Cowboy__ | i just went back to hourglass of the unraveler / mark of conquest |
| 14:57.27 | Cowboy__ | i hate "on use" items, i'm too forgetful |
| 14:57.33 | sbu | hmm yep :p |
| 14:57.43 | kenlyric | it's enough for me to remember to use inner focus. |
| 14:57.45 | Cowboy__ | except for Tabard of the Protector |
| 14:57.48 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:57.50 | Cowboy__ | i seem to remember to use that |
| 14:58.01 | sbu | thats the problem - especially in combat situations with some moving and positioning, ... |
| 14:58.09 | sbu | no time to remember trinkets ;p |
| 14:58.19 | Cowboy__ | yeah and non-spam macros |
| 14:58.24 | nevcairiel | i generally use my trinket at the beginning of a fight |
| 14:58.26 | Cowboy__ | those used to rock for triggering whatever |
| 14:58.28 | kenlyric | I use to have two on-use trinkets. That sucked. |
| 14:58.37 | sbu | its nice w/ dmg gear |
| 14:59.10 | kenlyric | I use my on use effect when bosses enrage, like curator. |
| 14:59.33 | nevcairiel | i really miss any good bracers in game |
| 14:59.44 | kenlyric | And i wear the signet of unshakeable faith only in the dim hope it will get buffed :) |
| 14:59.48 | nevcairiel | im still waiting for anything better then my t3 |
| 14:59.53 | sbu | on curator enrage i usually stop healing and go for dmg :p |
| 15:00.16 | sbu | and tank is using shield wall at 10% - so no problem at all... |
| 15:00.18 | knarf- | i'm just standing and PoH in curator :> |
| 15:00.34 | kenlyric | and how fast do you go oom? :) |
| 15:00.35 | knarf- | being in the melee group that handles adds :> |
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| 15:00.46 | nevcairiel | we do all ranged on adds |
| 15:00.50 | nevcairiel | melee on curator |
| 15:00.51 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31493 is clearly better than the signet... but it's not purple! |
| 15:00.54 | knarf- | don't go oom, shadowfiend and innervate is fine :P |
| 15:01.06 | kenlyric | I remember an innervate, in BWL, many months ago. |
| 15:01.16 | knarf- | we don't have any tree druids |
| 15:01.18 | knarf- | :) |
| 15:01.21 | kenlyric | god, I would be a healing god with an innervate. Have you seen my spirit? |
| 15:01.21 | Xabin | shadowfiend during evocation on curator is cheet |
| 15:01.23 | knarf- | they are all feral |
| 15:01.26 | kenlyric | we don'tt have any druids. |
| 15:01.33 | nevcairiel | <- happy tree :D |
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| 15:01.46 | FISKER_Q | reminds me |
| 15:01.49 | FISKER_Q | i dislike druids |
| 15:01.54 | FISKER_Q | "I'm almost oom" |
| 15:01.58 | FISKER_Q | boss is at 10% |
| 15:02.09 | FISKER_Q | druid tank goes "That's ok i'll just shift out and give you innervate" |
| 15:02.13 | FISKER_Q | "noo nooo nono" |
| 15:02.20 | FISKER_Q | he was joking :( |
| 15:02.29 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 15:02.34 | knarf- | We usually do that |
| 15:02.35 | knarf- | :) |
| 15:02.35 | kenlyric | lol :) |
| 15:02.36 | nevcairiel | feral dps can surely shift out and innervate |
| 15:02.38 | nevcairiel | but tanks |
| 15:02.39 | knarf- | it is np |
| 15:02.40 | nevcairiel | no way :D |
| 15:02.52 | nevcairiel | well depends tanking what |
| 15:03.17 | knarf- | well on 5 man heroic / nonheroic we usually have a rawrtank he jumps out and innervates me on bosses and such :P |
| 15:03.40 | sbu | kenlyric: get http://www.thottbot.com/i28728 - its purple and hot :p |
| 15:03.56 | nevcairiel | thats a good one too |
| 15:03.58 | kenlyric | my biggest problem with shadowfiend on curator is making sure I have no mana when i use it. |
| 15:04.05 | sbu | yep |
| 15:04.09 | sbu | i use it in 2nd evocation |
| 15:04.17 | kenlyric | 11k mana ftw! |
| 15:04.18 | sbu | but after 1/3 evocation my mana is at max :/ |
| 15:04.37 | Xabin | curator is usually almost dead by 2nd evocation ;P |
| 15:04.37 | nevcairiel | you should only get two evocs, so when else |
| 15:04.38 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 15:04.40 | kenlyric | it's purple, but it's still worse than the charm. |
| 15:05.11 | sbu | mhh, after 2nd evocation we have ~15% |
| 15:05.14 | sbu | 4 healers :o |
| 15:05.28 | nevcairiel | well |
| 15:05.34 | nevcairiel | since there are no adds anymore <20 |
| 15:05.36 | nevcairiel | just down him :P |
| 15:05.42 | kenlyric | lol, I'd love to see two evocs on curator. |
| 15:05.43 | kenlyric | some day. |
| 15:05.53 | Daemona | what was the addon again that filters shown buffs? |
| 15:05.56 | sbu | nevcairiel: yep, i know :o |
| 15:06.01 | nevcairiel | we generally get him to 40% or so in first evoc |
| 15:06.02 | Cowboy__ | never been in kara |
| 15:06.18 | sbu | nevcairiel: i guess with only 3 healers then? |
| 15:06.18 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: that's because you guys are good :) |
| 15:06.26 | kenlyric | not all of us are so lucky. |
| 15:06.38 | nevcairiel | sbu: depends .. if we are too many healers one of the priests goes dmg |
| 15:06.52 | sbu | i think its pretty easy w/ 3 healers and rest dps classes |
| 15:06.59 | sbu | (to 40% in 1st evoc) |
| 15:07.04 | kenlyric | it's easy if everyone in the raid isn't taking massive damage. |
| 15:07.13 | sbu | hmm yep |
| 15:07.15 | kenlyric | i.e. the adds are under control |
| 15:07.18 | nevcairiel | we spread out in a half-circle |
| 15:07.22 | nevcairiel | all range on adds |
| 15:07.26 | nevcairiel | generally works pretty good |
| 15:07.48 | knarf- | we did all the way up to and did opera with a 9 man raid and a non prot tank :D |
| 15:07.50 | knarf- | it was fun :D |
| 15:07.51 | kenlyric | like I said, works well if you're surrounded by great players :) |
| 15:08.00 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 15:08.17 | nevcairiel | since our guild stopped doing "official" karazhan runs .. we pick the players |
| 15:08.21 | nevcairiel | its a great raid now. |
| 15:08.42 | shieldb | nevcairiel, yeah same thing with us |
| 15:08.51 | shieldb | I just invite 9 people and we go stomp everything |
| 15:08.54 | kenlyric | curator is especially fun whent he warlocks never remember curse of doom. |
| 15:09.05 | kenlyric | man, wouldn't that be nice. |
| 15:09.13 | kenlyric | if we ever manage to get enough for two teams, maybe. |
| 15:12.47 | knarf- | We are doign 2 karazhan eams, ofc. we are not doing that much else :/ |
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| 15:13.09 | knarf- | still foolign around with high king maulgor |
| 15:13.26 | Cowboy__ | i'm just trying to get my 3.5 set and rep for heroics |
| 15:13.33 | Cowboy__ | while i wait for a new game to come out |
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| 15:13.44 | Cowboy__ | :P |
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| 15:14.14 | Cowboy__ | JoshBorke: thx for the tooltip help last night |
| 15:14.18 | kenlyric | we have 30 people keyed for karazhan, but have never had more than 15 show up on a karazhan or grull night. |
| 15:14.18 | Cowboy__ | i ended up not using it |
| 15:14.37 | Cowboy__ | the tooltip seemed unnecessary after i had incorporated it |
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| 15:20.29 | Cowboy__ | i really like playing my class |
| 15:20.48 | Cowboy__ | but i seem to have the most fun when i have some idea for an addon and can execute it |
| 15:21.14 | Cowboy__ | well, or if we're running black morass 5 times in a row and blowing through it |
| 15:21.16 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 15:26.54 | Ozzwald | wow has kinda made me wanna cry glass lately |
| 15:27.10 | Ozzwald | haha /wrists |
| 15:27.10 | Ozzwald | h8 botanica |
| 15:27.21 | Punkie` | QQ |
| 15:27.43 | Ozzwald | exactly, that's pugs in a nutshell haha |
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| 15:28.24 | Cowboy__ | i still haven't gotten to do botanica yet |
| 15:28.30 | Cowboy__ | someday |
| 15:28.31 | Cowboy__ | heh |
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| 15:29.25 | Ozzwald | consider yourself blessed, hah |
| 15:29.49 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 15:30.10 | Punkie` | The only thing that annoys me is that, what's it, death and decay thing? |
| 15:30.26 | shieldb | yeah I've run botanica a couple of times and I'd rather not ever run it again |
| 15:30.30 | JoshBorke | botanica is fun |
| 15:30.38 | Cowboy__ | i feel that way about arcatraz |
| 15:30.46 | Cowboy__ | arcatraz... "teh suxor" |
| 15:30.53 | shieldb | arcatraz I don't mind so much |
| 15:30.53 | Cowboy__ | just annoying trash |
| 15:30.53 | Ozzwald | Botanica is fun in a masochist sort of way |
| 15:30.55 | shieldb | it's just really long |
| 15:30.57 | Punkie` | It's cool |
| 15:31.03 | Punkie` | Arcatraz that is |
| 15:31.12 | JoshBorke | botanica is fun when you're the priest who gets to MC stuff |
| 15:31.20 | shieldb | I really like solo farming the arcatraz chest on heroic, too |
| 15:31.22 | Ozzwald | yeah those buffs are hella nice |
| 15:31.22 | Cowboy__ | i thought shadow lab was long until i ran arcatraz |
| 15:31.28 | Punkie` | MILLHOUSE THE POWERHOUSE |
| 15:31.28 | Punkie` | ftw |
| 15:31.58 | Punkie` | Are you crazy? Arcatraz is definately shorter than Shadow Labs |
| 15:32.05 | mitch0 | shadow labs is not long |
| 15:32.06 | shieldb | is millhouse buffed on heroic? I haven't gotten around to doing it yet other then on normal |
| 15:32.09 | JoshBorke | it just depends on the group and pulls |
| 15:32.12 | mitch0 | at least it didn't seem long |
| 15:32.35 | kenlyric | there's only one shadow lab. |
| 15:32.43 | Ozzwald | anything with pugs is 2x as long as it should be |
| 15:32.53 | kenlyric | Shadow labs would be a cool science lab gone horribly wrong. |
| 15:33.02 | Cowboy__ | shadow lab always seemed long |
| 15:33.03 | mitch0 | s/pugs/undergeared and/or lame guys/ |
| 15:33.05 | Punkie` | I don't pug really tbh |
| 15:33.11 | Cowboy__ | we never have enough CC |
| 15:33.17 | Ozzwald | likewise punk, try not to anyway |
| 15:33.31 | kenlyric | if I didn't pug, I'd get nothing done. |
| 15:33.34 | JoshBorke | i don't pug, period |
| 15:33.34 | Punkie` | The last time I did a pug was in BM |
| 15:33.40 | Punkie` | About a month ago |
| 15:33.44 | kenlyric | or I'd be one of those whiners in my guild. |
| 15:33.54 | JoshBorke | kenlyric: i just don't whine |
| 15:34.09 | mitch0 | I'd like to not pug, but I seem to have some jinx on me. shortly after I join a guild, it splits up / major players leave / disbands |
| 15:34.13 | Punkie` | I hearthed when our priest decided to go shadowform on the 4th portal |
| 15:34.22 | Punkie` | he was the only healer ofc |
| 15:34.27 | mitch0 | happened 3 times now already, and no, it's not me :) |
| 15:34.34 | kenlyric | it's just a matter of schedule. I'm not gonna wait hours for the perfect group to sign on. I take what I can get, where I can get it from. |
| 15:34.53 | kenlyric | Besides, all my best stories come from pugs, like the warlock who didn't know how to seduce. |
| 15:35.01 | kenlyric | And by that I mean didn't have a succubus. |
| 15:35.02 | mitch0 | hah |
| 15:35.21 | Cowboy__ | i've led a lot of steamvault pugs |
| 15:35.24 | Punkie` | Reminds me of Ammo always dying in instances |
| 15:35.24 | Cowboy__ | it's easy to do |
| 15:35.25 | Ozzwald | my pug the other night was something truly special |
| 15:35.33 | mitch0 | btw, have you seen that vid of 3 mages a lock and a priest beating the first boss in SH? |
| 15:35.34 | Punkie` | which then reminds me of teabagging his dead body |
| 15:35.46 | Cowboy__ | i stopped pugging though recently when the priest refused to heal my pet |
| 15:36.05 | Punkie` | You can heal your own damn pet! /slap |
| 15:36.08 | Cowboy__ | and then when i pressed him about it, he said he'd heal my pet instead of me if that's the way i wanted it |
| 15:36.26 | Cowboy__ | and that i had mend pet so i could heal it myself |
| 15:36.37 | Punkie` | Damn straight |
| 15:36.40 | Cowboy__ | funny, i've never had a healer refuse to heal my pet before |
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| 15:36.46 | kenlyric | absolutuly. |
| 15:36.49 | Cowboy__ | so i hearthed out |
| 15:36.49 | Punkie` | Hunters have 1 use |
| 15:36.52 | Punkie` | well 2 |
| 15:36.54 | Cowboy__ | never done that before |
| 15:36.57 | Punkie` | 1) buff me with aura |
| 15:36.58 | kenlyric | though, In a five man, I give hunter pets at least 1% of my attention. |
| 15:37.03 | Punkie` | 2) use misdirection |
| 15:37.24 | Cowboy__ | my pet gives the party a 3% damage increase |
| 15:37.24 | kenlyric | I'm more pissed by hunters who don't use pets, so I try to keep them up. |
| 15:37.36 | Cowboy__ | and it does about 1/3 of my damage |
| 15:37.42 | Ozzwald | the other night it took an hour and 15 minutes to get a group together. Get to the meetingstone, try for another 20-25 minutes to summon your druid tank who is being corpse camped in westfall and is incapable of escaping the one player who is ganking him. |
| 15:37.44 | Cowboy__ | plus, it's a pretty good off-tank |
| 15:37.54 | mitch0 | somehow I had the worst pugs when there were hunter(s) in them. nothing personal, but it surely seemed to be somehow connected |
| 15:38.00 | Cowboy__ | no prob |
| 15:38.07 | Cowboy__ | i'm fairly competent |
| 15:38.09 | kenlyric | as long as the hunter knows it's my very last priority :) |
| 15:38.13 | mitch0 | like this one time in underbog where the hunter pulled with his pet |
| 15:38.20 | Ozzwald | wtf |
| 15:38.27 | Cowboy__ | my fiancee is a druid, we run together all the time |
| 15:38.32 | Cowboy__ | i know the dea about healing |
| 15:38.32 | kenlyric | hunters are the easiest class to solo, thus they would have the highest ratio of bad players. |
| 15:38.47 | kenlyric | bad group players, at least. |
| 15:38.49 | Ozzwald | i play a hunter as well, but yeah i group well, and CC a lot |
| 15:38.57 | Cowboy__ | and i have 2/2 in improved revive pet so i can, and do, res it in 4 seconds when i have to |
| 15:38.57 | kenlyric | good hunters rock. |
| 15:39.04 | kenlyric | they essentially are like bring two people. |
| 15:39.07 | Ozzwald | if you specifically tell me WHAT you want trapped |
| 15:39.13 | Ozzwald | i'll keep it trapped indefinitely |
| 15:39.27 | Ozzwald | and if timed right, i can keep two things trapped |
| 15:39.48 | Ozzwald | plus my pet tanking another |
| 15:39.53 | Cowboy__ | yeah and then when they both come up because the shaman used chain lightning or the trigger-happy mage frost novaed |
| 15:39.57 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 15:40.07 | Cowboy__ | i've played with good players, and bad players |
| 15:40.07 | mitch0 | ;) |
| 15:40.18 | mitch0 | frost nova can be a bitch sometime, yeah :) |
| 15:40.19 | Cowboy__ | i'm not perfect, but i'm well above average |
| 15:40.24 | Stephmw | Cowboy__: in what proportions? |
| 15:40.27 | mitch0 | but multishot, too... |
| 15:40.29 | Cowboy__ | hmmn |
| 15:40.34 | Cowboy__ | well, probably more good than bad |
| 15:40.44 | Cowboy__ | but i tend to get out of bad situations early |
| 15:40.50 | Ozzwald | I personally don't see a problem with MS if you're competent about it |
| 15:41.09 | mitch0 | just don't use it when there are pigs/sheep around... |
| 15:41.10 | Cowboy__ | a good hunter will know exactly how to MS so it doesn't break CC |
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| 15:41.30 | Cowboy__ | and every once in a while might screw it up, but a mistake can happen to anyone |
| 15:41.30 | mitch0 | lot of hunters seem to forget that... |
| 15:41.35 | Cowboy__ | yeah |
| 15:41.40 | Cowboy__ | i've heard that |
| 15:42.07 | Ozzwald | yeah and there ARE times when it will MS a target that it absolutely shouldn't have |
| 15:42.30 | Ozzwald | like, i've been 2-3 yards away from something at a 45 degree angle and somehow it'll still get a shot |
| 15:42.31 | kenlyric | the dumbest player I'd ever seen up to that warlock was our old warrior class leader who didn't know berserker stance. |
| 15:42.42 | Cowboy__ | lol |
| 15:43.00 | Punkie` | wait, what? |
| 15:43.09 | kenlyric | he really wasn't all that good, even for a fury tank. |
| 15:43.16 | kenlyric | that helped explain a lot. |
| 15:43.29 | kenlyric | the priests had to convince him he should execute on vael. |
| 15:43.36 | Cowboy__ | the other day in black morass, with all my buffs, procs, and pots i hit combined 1078 paperdoll dps me + pet |
| 15:43.43 | Cowboy__ | it was a beautiful moment |
| 15:43.51 | Ozzwald | and now did he even get that far |
| 15:43.53 | Cowboy__ | and lasted about 3 seconds |
| 15:43.53 | Ozzwald | lol |
| 15:43.55 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 15:43.58 | Ozzwald | *how |
| 15:44.27 | kenlyric | Ozzwald: he was our normal OT for a while, until we convinced other warriors to go prot. |
| 15:44.38 | kenlyric | Ozzwald: well, it's pretty easy to get away with on alliance. |
| 15:45.04 | kenlyric | trust me, this fact wasn't actually *known* to us until very near when he left the guild :) |
| 15:45.11 | Cowboy__ | fury warriors don't need to know how to do anything except make excuses for why they don't build enough threat when they try to tank |
| 15:45.34 | Punkie` | You've never played a warrior, amirite? |
| 15:45.44 | kenlyric | who? |
| 15:45.49 | Punkie` | Cowboy |
| 15:45.50 | Cowboy__ | and maybe scratch their head wondering where the "vanish" spell is |
| 15:45.55 | Cowboy__ | nopers |
| 15:46.10 | Punkie` | well |
| 15:46.13 | kenlyric | lots of warriors pre 2.0 believed they could be just fine tanks as fury. They were wrong, but it was a common belief. |
| 15:46.19 | Cowboy__ | just had some dealing with a rather "special" fury warrior recently |
| 15:46.29 | Cowboy__ | who finally put some points in prt |
| 15:46.30 | Punkie` | ken, that's not true :P |
| 15:46.36 | kenlyric | yeah, I can be a just fine healer as shadow, but it's going to be painful. |
| 15:46.44 | Punkie` | I was MT for my guild all the way up to 4HM pre 2.0 as fury |
| 15:46.52 | Punkie` | It generated more threat |
| 15:47.04 | Cowboy__ | you play your class better than he, i guess |
| 15:47.07 | Punkie` | A lot more threat actually |
| 15:47.12 | Cowboy__ | http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=e7f0b066100eb88a8e8d2acd8d73126f |
| 15:47.14 | kenlyric | no, your prot warriors sucked. |
| 15:47.28 | Punkie` | Not really |
| 15:47.29 | Cowboy__ | ^^ fury warriors <3 |
| 15:47.33 | kenlyric | if you had specced prot you would have been unstoppable. |
| 15:47.34 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 15:47.42 | Punkie` | I was unstoppable anyway |
| 15:47.45 | kenlyric | or maybe you had windfury totem :) |
| 15:47.49 | Ozzwald | it sucks tho, i've been playing hunter since November 2005 but I'm starting to consider a change |
| 15:47.55 | Punkie` | I'm alliance |
| 15:48.06 | Cowboy__ | i'm starting to consider a change .. to a new game |
| 15:48.06 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 15:48.09 | Cowboy__ | but i love hunter |
| 15:48.09 | Punkie` | Fury did generate more threat than protection |
| 15:48.15 | Ozzwald | exactly cowboy |
| 15:48.20 | Ozzwald | but i love my class |
| 15:48.29 | kenlyric | can't possibly see how you'd outhreat a prot warrior. But, maybe I never knew a good fury warrior. |
| 15:48.44 | Ozzwald | the only other class I like is my rogue, lol, another 'worthless' class |
| 15:48.45 | kenlyric | remember, this one didn't know berzerker stance :) |
| 15:48.56 | Cowboy__ | i think the thing is that most fury warriors don't have the gear or the skill to reall out-threat a prot warrior |
| 15:49.02 | Punkie` | Because fury warrior's threat scaled with buffs well |
| 15:49.07 | Punkie` | protection's didn't |
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| 15:49.22 | Punkie` | Flurry = more heroic strikes over time = more threat |
| 15:49.26 | Cowboy__ | and then they try to tank, and it's a disaster because they become a mana-sponge for healers |
| 15:49.35 | Punkie` | buffs = better BT and a lame heal |
| 15:49.54 | Cowboy__ | but i only REALLY know my class |
| 15:50.04 | Punkie` | the only thing pre 2.0 that scaled with gear for a prot warrior was shield slam |
| 15:50.14 | Punkie` | and you needed a fuck load of shield block to even compete :P |
| 15:50.46 | Punkie` | in retrospect, i think your fury warriors sucked, kenlyric :p |
| 15:51.06 | kenlyric | the damage mitigation in prot seems pretty cruicial post 2.0... at least on some of the bosses that hit really hard. |
| 15:51.30 | kenlyric | well, as a priest who thrives on gheals it seems pretty critical :) |
| 15:51.32 | Punkie` | Yeah, that was the only problem |
| 15:51.40 | kenlyric | spamming heals on a druid is just not fun :) |
| 15:51.46 | Cowboy__ | heh |
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| 15:51.51 | Punkie` | that was the only reason we used a prot specced warrior for loatheb :P |
| 15:52.03 | neenee | Hm. I finished Act 1 with GDI, played Act 1 with NOD and now I find out I can't continue at Act 2 of GDI without a saved game :| |
| 15:52.03 | Cowboy__ | imagine having a resto/balance druid main healing a feral druid |
| 15:52.09 | Cowboy__ | good times |
| 15:52.21 | Punkie` | imagine? |
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| 15:52.36 | Punkie` | don't you have that already? |
| 15:52.48 | kenlyric | what's a "resto" druid? |
| 15:52.50 | Cowboy__ | well, yes |
| 15:52.52 | kenlyric | does not compute. |
| 15:52.54 | packetlss | cnc3 any good? |
| 15:52.55 | Cowboy__ | but you can imagine |
| 15:52.58 | Punkie` | TREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 15:52.58 | Cowboy__ | lol |
| 15:53.03 | Punkie` | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.07 | xyu | i've heard it's terrible |
| 15:53.12 | xyu | but have no personal experience |
| 15:53.39 | Punkie` | Our feral druid tank was quite good |
| 15:53.52 | neenee | packetlss: I like it a lot :) |
| 15:54.02 | packetlss | neenee: cool, i just installing it |
| 15:54.25 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar * r31270 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: fix nil error line 350 |
| 15:54.39 | neenee | packetlss: :) |
| 15:55.10 | Industrial | <The Hell Hunters> <Dark Crusaders>, sigh :| when does it END? |
| 15:56.42 | Punkie` | What are you talking about, just bad guild names or what? |
| 15:56.48 | shieldb | Industrial, you mean those aren't the best guild names EVAR? |
| 15:57.05 | sylvanaar | if any of you use ACP, can you let me know if there are error messages re: missing addons that it does not catch |
| 15:57.26 | packetlss | i liked <Ctrl Alt Elite> or <Adjective Noun> |
| 15:57.41 | deltron | lol apple tv is running wow |
| 15:57.58 | Cowboy__ | rofl Ctrl Alt Elite |
| 15:57.59 | sylvanaar | kenlyric a resto druid is a druid who does not have time to play wow so has donated his toon to play a useless spec |
| 15:58.23 | Industrial | my fav is <I FARM OR MY FAMILY DIES> |
| 15:58.31 | Punkie` | Hehe |
| 15:58.33 | xyu | there's a slew of "i'd sap that" "Sapped players cant say no" "i'd mana tap that" etc. |
| 15:58.41 | shieldb | <100 Acre Wood Infantry> and <Leigon of Mankrik> were a couple amusing ones I've seen around from time to time |
| 15:58.50 | Industrial | haha |
| 15:58.51 | deltron | Naga * |
| 15:58.55 | kenlyric | I've been in Millennion and Monolithic... both pretty decent names. |
| 15:59.00 | shieldb | xyu, yeah I think I've seen a <Sapped Girls Can't Say No> around |
| 15:59.04 | Industrial | lol |
| 15:59.07 | Industrial | :D |
| 15:59.23 | xyu | dammit, i crashed and logged back in and suddenly i'm plunging to the earth because somehow i'm demounted. |
| 15:59.23 | packetlss | we had a dude on our realm that banned for having: <GETINTHEVANIGOTCANDY> |
| 15:59.32 | Cowboy__ | Dude Where's My Kodo is good |
| 15:59.33 | kenlyric | I've heard of awesome bank alt guilds liike <Fruit Vendor> |
| 15:59.36 | Punkie` | I've seen some terrible ones... things like <protrectrors of alliance> and <BEEP BEEP IM A JEEP> etc |
| 15:59.49 | neenee | hm. |
| 15:59.51 | shieldb | oh, we've got beep beep I'm a jeep on our server |
| 15:59.52 | xyu | There's an arena team called TheRapists |
| 15:59.58 | neenee | Apple TV looks like a Media Center alternative |
| 16:00.00 | kenlyric | why are CGF so stupid that they don't rename their pets? |
| 16:00.13 | kenlyric | neenee... it's a lot dumber than media center. |
| 16:00.24 | Cowboy__ | apple tv seems like it could be, but it seems more like justr a front-end for itunes store |
| 16:00.26 | shieldb | xyu, there's a higher ranked arena team in one of the battlegroups that's <YOUR MOM IS MY EPIC MOUNT> |
| 16:00.26 | Punkie` | I still laughed about <Seal Cub Clubbing Club> |
| 16:00.26 | xyu | we have one of those too shieldb, what server are you on ? |
| 16:00.27 | neenee | ah. Well, as long as it works :) |
| 16:00.32 | shieldb | tichondrius |
| 16:00.41 | shieldb | us |
| 16:00.54 | xyu | i know a few of the noto guys on that server |
| 16:01.13 | shieldb | neat |
| 16:01.14 | neenee | Though their website speaks of it, as if people haven't been using LCD TV's for watching movies/pictures before. |
| 16:01.23 | packetlss | or <Menethil Harbor Yacht Club> |
| 16:01.34 | shieldb | I play horde, so I don't really know them ;) |
| 16:01.42 | FISKER_Q | rawr rawr |
| 16:01.42 | xyu | ah :D |
| 16:01.58 | xyu | i only know the one's from the 5v5 arena team |
| 16:02.11 | shieldb | the sponsored one? :P |
| 16:02.20 | shieldb | I still can't get over how retarded that sounds |
| 16:03.06 | xyu | hah |
| 16:03.10 | xyu | yep yep |
| 16:03.11 | shieldb | I'm sure it's a great situation and such, but it just seems rediculous |
| 16:03.12 | Industrial | Klathnuz <Graftak's Minion>, NOOOOOO why such a rediculous name >_< |
| 16:03.17 | Industrial | you cant change it anymore can you? |
| 16:03.35 | Industrial | (just got my voidy) |
| 16:03.48 | yacoob | Klathnuss? |
| 16:03.49 | shieldb | Industrial, nope, can't change it |
| 16:03.51 | yacoob | A nut from Klath? |
| 16:03.58 | shieldb | you'd need to roll a new character to get new pet names |
| 16:04.11 | Industrial | WRYYYYYYYY |
| 16:04.14 | Industrial | etc |
| 16:04.17 | yacoob | (and you are sure, "Graftak" is surely a ridiculous name :PPP) |
| 16:04.30 | yacoob | s/are sure/have right/ |
| 16:04.32 | Industrial | no its not :D im undead :D |
| 16:04.36 | yacoob | 8) |
| 16:04.36 | shieldb | though on my old server some warlock lucked out and got his succubus named Krakhor |
| 16:04.41 | yacoob | Ungraftak |
| 16:04.45 | deltron | lol |
| 16:04.46 | Industrial | OMG lol shieldb |
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| 16:04.56 | yacoob | specialty: ungrafting limbs from rest of the body |
| 16:05.24 | Industrial | graftak -> dutch curse word for "old hag" wich literally means grave-branch |
| 16:05.31 | Industrial | so pretty good choice imo |
| 16:05.45 | Industrial | male version would be Graveworm, after the band \o/ |
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| 16:06.29 | cncfanatics | talented author around? |
| 16:06.32 | cncfanatics | talented is bugged :( |
| 16:06.37 | Industrial | s/after/like/ |
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| 16:08.14 | shieldb | So I think I have pretty much all the melee and ranged weapons from karazhan now :( |
| 16:08.18 | Kemayo | _neuron_: My plan was to persuade clad|work to add some functionality to LH so I could trigger its own tooltips at appropriate moments. |
| 16:08.33 | shieldb | I just need the wolfslayer rifle and king's defender |
| 16:08.43 | shieldb | then I'll have 'caught them all' |
| 16:08.59 | Industrial | tee bee cee, gotta catchem all! |
| 16:10.45 | shieldb | I keep on having no luck getting the pieces I actually want to drop, and then all these weapons default to me because no one else can use them or wants them |
| 16:11.08 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:11.15 | Industrial | how do i make it attack if the target doesnt exist? |
| 16:11.31 | shieldb | Industrial, your pet has to have a target for that to work |
| 16:11.45 | Industrial | i dont want it to attack again when it has a target |
| 16:12.03 | Industrial | eg the opposite of [target=pettarget,exists] |
| 16:12.27 | shieldb | it'll only have a target if you are attacking, right? |
| 16:12.31 | Industrial | because attacking twice will (although its just 1.5 sec) make it wait for an extra swing and then attack again |
| 16:12.35 | shieldb | if the pet is attacking, rather |
| 16:13.16 | Industrial | no. its a 'grind macro', i want my pet to attack and myself to cast a number of things (corruption, curse of agony, shoot) and my pet to only attack once |
| 16:13.22 | Industrial | so only if he doesnt have a target |
| 16:14.20 | shieldb | could you use focus for what your pet should be attacking? |
| 16:14.29 | sbu | shieldb: mhh kings defender |
| 16:14.37 | sbu | dropped now 5th time in a row... |
| 16:14.43 | sbu | *sigh* |
| 16:14.51 | shieldb | I wouldn't actually take king's defender as I'm a rogue |
| 16:15.04 | shieldb | I can bring someone else into the instance who isn't saved to loot the chest |
| 16:15.14 | sbu | hmm yep |
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| 16:15.36 | buhdacruzin | hi all |
| 16:15.53 | kenlyric | somebody who is saved can't loot the chest? |
| 16:15.55 | shieldb | or failing finding someone in my guild or on anyone's friend list who wants a king's defender I'm sure we could sell it in shattrath |
| 16:15.56 | shieldb | yeah |
| 16:16.00 | shieldb | it's just like domo's chest |
| 16:16.18 | kenlyric | I thought anyone could get to domo's chest. |
| 16:16.20 | shieldb | kenlyric, oops, someone who is saved to another insance can't come in to mine and loot it |
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| 16:16.26 | buhdacruzin | anyone know a good place to get gold |
| 16:16.28 | kenlyric | oh, ok :) |
| 16:16.34 | kenlyric | but they can be saved to your instance. |
| 16:16.35 | shieldb | so if someone is on another kara timer they can't get into my kara to loot the chest |
| 16:16.36 | shieldb | right |
| 16:16.51 | kenlyric | we'll have to remember that. |
| 16:16.53 | shieldb | we run like 3 kara groups a week so that's sometimes more of an issue for us |
| 16:17.16 | kenlyric | Some people are skipping chess because they don't need the loot, but they could still do the event. |
| 16:17.34 | kenlyric | though, I'm happy to run in and do the event. Best thing in wow ever. |
| 16:17.56 | shieldb | kenlyric, you should try soloing it sometime |
| 16:17.59 | shieldb | that's a lot of fun |
| 16:18.10 | kenlyric | you'd have to kill aran and illhoof first, right? |
| 16:18.13 | shieldb | nope |
| 16:18.16 | kenlyric | to get rid of the trash. |
| 16:18.24 | shieldb | gogo stealth run |
| 16:18.33 | shieldb | it's a lot harder now that the arcane protectors see through stealth |
| 16:18.35 | shieldb | but you can still do it |
| 16:18.35 | kenlyric | sure, I'll hit fade and see what happens. |
| 16:18.50 | shieldb | yeah you'd be out of luck if you can't stealth :( |
| 16:18.57 | kenlyric | but if you kill illhoof and aran, there's no trash to him, irght? |
| 16:19.04 | kenlyric | errr, to chess. |
| 16:19.06 | shieldb | netherspite trash, too |
| 16:19.18 | kenlyric | damn... which trash is connected to netherspite? |
| 16:19.27 | shieldb | the ethereal spellfilchers and ethereal thieves |
| 16:20.11 | shieldb | as well as the spell shade / sorcerous shade pulls |
| 16:20.56 | shieldb | if you look at the incubator source it's got a table for which trash is tied to which boss ;) |
| 16:21.02 | kenlyric | what's the usual order that most guilds do after curator? |
| 16:21.27 | shieldb | I'd strongly suggest curator -> aran -> chess -> prince |
| 16:21.41 | shieldb | if you don't kill aran you're in for a ton of trash reclearing |
| 16:21.42 | kenlyric | no illhoof? |
| 16:21.47 | shieldb | after prince you do whatever you want |
| 16:21.50 | vhaarr | curator -> aran -> illhoof -> netherspite -> chess -> prince |
| 16:22.53 | Elkano | hmm... if I'm lucky EBBs beta will be out today <3 |
| 16:23.03 | kenlyric | we do chess before aran, but I know that's dumb. Just, chess gives lootz and aran doesn't, yet :) |
| 16:23.32 | shieldb | yeah clearing to chess when aran isn't down yet costs you valuable attempt time on him |
| 16:24.24 | chutwig | aran really just needs a warlock and enough melee to constantly interrupt him |
| 16:24.37 | kenlyric | and people who aren't dumb. |
| 16:24.46 | kenlyric | you always forget that factor when talking about fights :) |
| 16:25.21 | chutwig | you're talking to somebody whose guild fucked up gruul 8 times last night because the healers are too slow to react when he reaches 10 grows |
| 16:25.25 | chutwig | believe me |
| 16:25.35 | chutwig | i have more experience than i wish i did with stupidity |
| 16:25.51 | shieldb | chutwig, too slow to react to cave in? |
| 16:26.09 | chutwig | shieldb: cave in and shatter aren't problems |
| 16:26.10 | shieldb | or to "I should heal the MT/OT now" ? |
| 16:26.10 | shieldb | ahh |
| 16:26.56 | chutwig | they just seem to be too concerned with retaining mana to start unloading big heals constantly |
| 16:26.56 | chutwig | when you get to that point you pretty much need to be chain casting HL/gheals |
| 16:26.56 | shieldb | yep |
| 16:27.10 | chutwig | to top the night off he evaded on us at around 8% |
| 16:27.10 | kenlyric | yeah, that'll be a place we can never get past. |
| 16:27.15 | shieldb | you're going to have a lot of fun on magtheridon if people aren't able to react to cave in ;) |
| 16:27.17 | chutwig | we did kill him last week but only because his hurtful strike bugged out |
| 16:27.25 | chutwig | no, cave in and shatter aren't problems now |
| 16:27.27 | chutwig | just MT healing |
| 16:27.39 | chutwig | even so i would not want to proceed to mag until gruul becomes completely trivial |
| 16:27.39 | Antiarc|Wor1 | The only sticking point with Gruul now is the DPS race. |
| 16:28.06 | chutwig | we have some gimp DPSers but for nearly all attempts we were on track to kill him around 14 or 15 grows |
| 16:28.20 | shieldb | I'm not sure how gruul went this week because I stepped out for others to get in for their SSC attunement |
| 16:28.45 | chutwig | our GM is the kind of person who just doesn't really care and seems to think the problems will fix themselves |
| 16:29.14 | buhdacruzin | do you guys know of a good site for gold or a easy way in the game to get it. |
| 16:29.39 | shieldb | jewelcrafting, prospecting, solid star of elune |
| 16:29.48 | chutwig | frustrating |
| 16:29.56 | chutwig | sell terocone and netherbloom |
| 16:30.01 | Daemona | buhdacruzin wrong chan |
| 16:30.11 | buhdacruzin | what chan shoul dI be in? |
| 16:30.11 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r31271 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (9 files in 9 dirs): FuBar_QuestsFu: zhTW localization by Hanne. |
| 16:30.20 | chutwig | probably one that isn't about addon development |
| 16:30.45 | Proph | is there a mod that notifies me when Fearward is gone on a player? need this for arenas... |
| 16:30.49 | shieldb | chutwig, maybe someone is working on FuBar_ItPrintsMoney ? :P |
| 16:30.57 | Mikma | umh |
| 16:31.06 | chutwig | shieldb: Fubar_SocialSecurityCheck |
| 16:31.11 | Mikma | since when it has been possible to vein arcane crystal from small thorium vein |
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| 16:31.22 | chutwig | they changed it recently |
| 16:31.27 | chutwig | to increase yields on thorium nodes |
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| 16:31.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 16:31.35 | chutwig | probably changed that at the same time as well |
| 16:34.13 | Proph | is there a mod that notifies me when Fearward is gone on a player? need this for arenas... |
| 16:35.35 | deltron | just bring a shaman with you |
| 16:39.02 | vhaarr | Proph: making one is easy as pie with SEEA |
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| 16:42.30 | buhdacruzin | hi |
| 16:42.35 | buhdacruzin | who wants free gold |
| 16:42.43 | neenee | me me! |
| 16:42.49 | Cowboy__ | me!! |
| 16:42.50 | buhdacruzin | wowgold4free.com |
| 16:42.59 | buhdacruzin | I got some |
| 16:43.20 | neenee | How exciting! |
| 16:43.28 | Cowboy__ | wait, i don't need free gold |
| 16:43.31 | *** join/#wowace nuoHep (n=nuoHep@85.192.55.242) |
| 16:43.35 | chutwig | IT'S A TRAP |
| 16:43.39 | buhdacruzin | I sent the moderator and he gave me 20 free gold |
| 16:43.39 | neenee | A trap? |
| 16:43.41 | neenee | Oh no! |
| 16:43.47 | buhdacruzin | hows it a trap |
| 16:43.58 | Cowboy__ | i already have my epic flying mount, all the gear i could need, and another 800g in the bank |
| 16:44.04 | Daemona | can someone remove him pls. |
| 16:44.05 | Cowboy__ | so i think i'm good for now |
| 16:44.07 | neenee | You sent a moderator? Did he fit into the box? |
| 16:44.13 | Daemona | vhaarr? |
| 16:44.18 | buhdacruzin | yup |
| 16:44.25 | neenee | Aw, but he can be our plaything.. |
| 16:44.36 | Cowboy__ | buhdacruzin has set up us the bomb |
| 16:44.43 | neenee | *set us up |
| 16:44.52 | Cowboy__ | i thought it was set up us |
| 16:45.00 | neenee | I think it's us up :) |
| 16:45.05 | buhdacruzin | no I opened a support ticket on the site and asked him if it was true he said sure and sent me 20 to get started |
| 16:45.06 | neenee | And 'a', not 'the' |
| 16:45.10 | art3mis | i want free wow golf! |
| 16:45.18 | buhdacruzin | they make that |
| 16:45.23 | neenee | They make free golf? |
| 16:45.28 | neenee | How many holes? |
| 16:45.29 | art3mis | it's wow golf! |
| 16:45.35 | kenlyric | all the gold I've ever had has been free. |
| 16:45.36 | Cowboy__ | Mechanic: Somebody set up us the bomb. |
| 16:45.36 | *** join/#wowace Funkeh` (n=funkydud@host81-157-53-184.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:45.41 | Cowboy__ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_your_base_are_belong_to_us |
| 16:45.47 | art3mis | ken thats an outright lie ;P |
| 16:45.49 | buhdacruzin | wtf is that |
| 16:45.50 | neenee | Well, they're wrong :P :) |
| 16:45.55 | buhdacruzin | who wrong |
| 16:45.57 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 16:45.59 | buhdacruzin | whos |
| 16:46.01 | art3mis | course you're p[aying 15$/mn for fluxuating income of gold ;P{ |
| 16:46.01 | kenlyric | art3mis: nope. |
| 16:46.03 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 16:46.04 | neenee | buhdacruzin: You, they, they're all wrong :) |
| 16:46.13 | kenlyric | I'm not paying $15 for gold. |
| 16:46.14 | buhdacruzin | why |
| 16:46.18 | art3mis | sure you are |
| 16:46.24 | art3mis | in a purely semantical sense |
| 16:46.25 | art3mis | ;) |
| 16:46.26 | neenee | Hi Funkeh`, meet our new pet, it's buhdacruzin, furry and clueless :) |
| 16:46.39 | Funkeh` | hehe |
| 16:46.39 | neenee | I think he eats gold. |
| 16:46.46 | kenlyric | I pay $15 for raiding. Gold is something I get on the side. |
| 16:46.55 | buhdacruzin | I am getting 100 more gold soon |
| 16:46.55 | kenlyric | free bonus |
| 16:46.55 | Cowboy__ | maybe he means the color gold |
| 16:47.09 | Cowboy__ | dude, you can farm 100 gold in no time |
| 16:47.10 | kenlyric | free golden spellthread? |
| 16:47.22 | buhdacruzin | just sign up to the site |
| 16:47.27 | Cowboy__ | well, if your a hunter at least |
| 16:47.29 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 16:47.35 | Daemona | or a shadowpriest |
| 16:47.37 | Cowboy__ | *i* can farm 100 gold in no time |
| 16:47.37 | deltron | gold is super expensive on my server |
| 16:47.42 | Daemona | elemental farming can be fun :D |
| 16:47.44 | Cowboy__ | my pet auto-loots |
| 16:47.45 | deltron | it's crazy |
| 16:47.45 | art3mis | hehe pyramid scheme email harvesting for wow gold |
| 16:47.49 | art3mis | ingenious! |
| 16:47.54 | deltron | I hate elemental farming :( |
| 16:47.55 | buhdacruzin | I am not even asking you to use my link but if you refer other people all the gold they make gets you some |
| 16:47.57 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 16:48.06 | neenee | buhdacruzin: only if you sign up on mine first, I work for a much larger company who promise a lot too :) |
| 16:48.34 | buhdacruzin | what company is that |
| 16:48.36 | neenee | They promise a raise to everyon! |
| 16:48.37 | neenee | *everyone |
| 16:48.40 | neenee | www.viagra.com |
| 16:48.43 | Daemona | buhdacruzin either you start talking about addons, or be gone. |
| 16:48.44 | Cowboy__ | you need to roll a hunter, then you just target a mob and hit the "auto-shot, petattack" macro |
| 16:48.49 | neenee | Get a free raise every time you use their product |
| 16:48.51 | Cowboy__ | just don't forget to loot at the ned, that's it |
| 16:48.56 | Cowboy__ | end |
| 16:48.59 | Cowboy__ | :P |
| 16:49.03 | art3mis | daemona is cranky |
| 16:49.27 | buhdacruzin | I am just trying to understand why people do not trust sites such as these |
| 16:49.36 | Daemona | who cares about trust |
| 16:49.44 | Funkeh` | daemona is a sexy troll, don't mess |
| 16:49.46 | Daemona | its violating the ToS |
| 16:49.56 | Funkeh` | i slap you around! |
| 16:50.02 | neenee | I don't distrust sites. I just have a healthy sense of paranoia when it comes to unknown people on the internet |
| 16:50.02 | Daemona | yeah, i am so sexy, i got a picture on wowhead of me -.- |
| 16:50.09 | Funkeh` | oh? |
| 16:50.20 | buhdacruzin | Isn't making a macro viloating the tos |
| 16:50.25 | buhdacruzin | macro = bot |
| 16:50.26 | neenee | Nope |
| 16:50.31 | Daemona | sure Funkeh`, lookup Bloodsea Brigand's Vest ;) |
| 16:50.31 | neenee | No it's not :) |
| 16:51.02 | buhdacruzin | so if I went into warcraft and asked a gm how to use my bot I wouldnt get in trouble |
| 16:51.07 | neenee | Anyway, you're our pet now buhdacruzin. You must have seen the rules fly past when you came in. |
| 16:51.40 | buhdacruzin | what do you mean you haven't enchanted me yet |
| 16:51.44 | buhdacruzin | :) |
| 16:51.52 | neenee | Good monkey |
| 16:51.56 | kenlyric | ni hao? |
| 16:52.00 | neenee | hello kenlyric |
| 16:52.03 | kenlyric | me so horny? |
| 16:52.14 | Funkeh` | daemona you are sexy!! |
| 16:52.24 | kenlyric | You like monkeys you like ponies. |
| 16:52.26 | buhdacruzin | I wanna learn more |
| 16:52.30 | Daemona | sure i am, until i remove that t4 helmet :X |
| 16:52.31 | *** join/#wowace Ominous (i=HydraIRC@88-109-246-223.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 16:52.32 | buhdacruzin | please |
| 16:52.50 | Funkeh` | now all you need is a pick of you holding a sword driving it through a gnome |
| 16:52.54 | deltron | i'm so confused |
| 16:52.54 | neenee | buhdacruzin: Learn not to bother people about sites without their permission or request. |
| 16:53.04 | buhdacruzin | I dont think I can do a backflip |
| 16:53.06 | Antiarc|Work | Hey guys |
| 16:53.10 | Antiarc|Work | I buy gold |
| 16:53.13 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.monex.com/prods/gold.html |
| 16:53.14 | buhdacruzin | I am trying to get peoples input |
| 16:53.28 | buhdacruzin | why buy when you can get it for free |
| 16:53.29 | Cowboy__ | why are YOU trying to get input? |
| 16:53.39 | Cowboy__ | are you affiliated with the site? |
| 16:53.51 | buhdacruzin | Because I am doing the site got some gold and wnat to see what other people think |
| 16:53.53 | buhdacruzin | and no |
| 16:54.10 | neenee | I hope you're doing the site safely. |
| 16:54.14 | sylvanaar | my game exits straight to windows while loadin |
| 16:54.28 | Daemona | sylvanaar revert the latest addons :X |
| 16:54.28 | buhdacruzin | what do you mean |
| 16:54.43 | neenee | buhdacruzin: I based a joke on your crooked sentence :) |
| 16:54.59 | buhdacruzin | they dont ask for any pw or anything that would be the first thing to look for |
| 16:55.01 | Cowboy__ | so, you are affiliated with the site? |
| 16:55.05 | buhdacruzin | I would never give that out |
| 16:55.09 | buhdacruzin | No I am not |
| 16:55.16 | buhdacruzin | I have gotten 50 gold from them |
| 16:55.17 | neenee | buhdacruzin: To look for? What do you mean? Look for what? |
| 16:55.22 | neenee | buhdacruzin: You said 20 |
| 16:55.23 | buhdacruzin | working on 100 |
| 16:55.33 | buhdacruzin | No he gave me 20 I cashed out 50 |
| 16:55.35 | Antiarc|Work | I got 50 gold by farming up 15 motes last night |
| 16:55.35 | sylvanaar | Daemona how far back |
| 16:55.41 | Antiarc|Work | And it took me like 10 minutes. |
| 16:55.48 | neenee | Yea, I can get 20 in minutes too nowadays. |
| 16:55.49 | Cowboy__ | how does it benefit you to tell us to check that site out? |
| 16:56.22 | buhdacruzin | How does it benifit you to help other people in the game |
| 16:56.29 | buhdacruzin | kinda same concept there |
| 16:56.32 | Cowboy__ | hmmn? |
| 16:56.34 | neenee | buhdacruzin: We are not in the game. Answer his question :) |
| 16:56.43 | buhdacruzin | It doesn't yet |
| 16:56.45 | sylvanaar | yeah, its babble. bigwigs, or talented |
| 16:56.45 | Cowboy__ | i don't help other people in the game, i help my guildies and friends |
| 16:56.51 | sylvanaar | nope |
| 16:56.55 | Cowboy__ | not random dudes in trade channel |
| 16:56.55 | Proph | vhaarr: SEEA?? whats that |
| 16:56.56 | sylvanaar | crashed again |
| 16:57.05 | buhdacruzin | huh |
| 16:57.08 | neenee | buhdacruzin: What does advertizing that site get you? |
| 16:57.14 | buhdacruzin | nothing |
| 16:57.21 | Daemona | sylvanaar if i got problems like that, i restart windows, and remove the addons i updated the last 2 days |
| 16:57.33 | sylvanaar | mine worked last night |
| 16:57.45 | neenee | buhdacruzin: Why are you advertizing it then? |
| 16:57.47 | shieldb | I'd just like to take this time to mention that the peons still work for you |
| 16:57.51 | buhdacruzin | do a rollback to a previous tome |
| 16:58.00 | shieldb | In case you'd forgotten |
| 16:58.11 | buhdacruzin | I am trying to tell people I got gold |
| 16:58.15 | buhdacruzin | FREE |
| 16:58.25 | Cowboy__ | buhdacruzin: why would you expend effort to "help us" then? i'm less inclined to trust someone who pretends to have absulutely no motivation for "helping" people, it's unnatural |
| 16:58.40 | Cowboy__ | it makes me think that you have something to hide |
| 16:58.42 | neenee | Indeed. Even a thanks is something. |
| 16:58.54 | buhdacruzin | I know there are issues with buying which I have never done but getting it free is a whole nother issue |
| 16:59.06 | Cowboy__ | nothing is free |
| 16:59.08 | Cowboy__ | ever |
| 16:59.14 | neenee | buhdacruzin: If it's an issue, why should we be interested? |
| 16:59.16 | Cowboy__ | so you are not being completely honest |
| 16:59.18 | buhdacruzin | Time is the only thing |
| 16:59.24 | Cowboy__ | time? |
| 16:59.32 | Cowboy__ | my time is worth a lot of money |
| 16:59.35 | *** join/#wowace Chompers (n=Chomp@cpc1-cove7-0-0-cust955.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 16:59.40 | neenee | Quite some scripts on that site. |
| 16:59.44 | buhdacruzin | buying is an issue not getting it free isnt |
| 16:59.53 | Cowboy__ | are you prepared to pay my hourly rate to comepnsate me? to make it truly "free" for me? |
| 16:59.58 | buhdacruzin | what do you mean scripts on the site |
| 17:00.11 | buhdacruzin | NO |
| 17:00.12 | neenee | buhdacruzin: Well, you said macro = bot, so bots perhaps :D |
| 17:00.23 | buhdacruzin | bots on a site |
| 17:00.24 | buhdacruzin | lol |
| 17:00.37 | Cowboy__ | hmmn |
| 17:00.42 | buhdacruzin | If you have FF you cna view the code |
| 17:00.47 | buhdacruzin | and see it |
| 17:00.49 | Cowboy__ | is there an "ignore" command for irc? |
| 17:00.54 | neenee | yes |
| 17:00.56 | neenee | ./ignore user |
| 17:00.57 | buhdacruzin | yes |
| 17:00.58 | Cowboy__ | sweet |
| 17:01.02 | Cowboy__ | yep ignoring him now |
| 17:01.08 | neenee | Ah.. I think I figured him out. |
| 17:01.14 | kenlyric | ah, here's the rub. |
| 17:01.15 | neenee | 'Every offer anyone you refer completes will earn you 10 percent of the points.' |
| 17:01.18 | buhdacruzin | what did you figure out |
| 17:01.19 | kenlyric | that's the rub. |
| 17:01.24 | Cowboy__ | well |
| 17:01.31 | kenlyric | pyramid scheme indeed. |
| 17:01.34 | buhdacruzin | I am not giving you my refferal link though |
| 17:01.38 | Cowboy__ | what we all need to do is to sign up but NOT use him as our referral |
| 17:01.53 | neenee | So it's like those silly games people kept spamming on forums.. something to become a great vampire/monster/etc by killing visitors |
| 17:01.53 | buhdacruzin | I have not given you my link |
| 17:02.04 | buhdacruzin | what |
| 17:02.07 | Cowboy__ | that would be the best for us, since all we care about is making a point, namely "haha pwntz u" |
| 17:02.55 | neenee | 'We do not accept advertisers who send spam.' |
| 17:03.42 | neenee | 'Abuse of WOWGOLD4FREE.COM support implements, including, but not limited to: instant messaging, e-mail, support tickets, forums on which WOWGOLD4FREE.COM has a presence, or any other medium; for the purposes of harassment, spamming, malice, or any other non-business purpose; will result in forfeiture of all points earned and immediate closure of your account, and possible legal action.' |
| 17:03.47 | neenee | so.. |
| 17:03.48 | Cowboy__ | wow i got my first ever "wow great idea" comment for an addon |
| 17:03.54 | Cowboy__ | i have hit a milestone today |
| 17:03.59 | neenee | :) |
| 17:03.59 | Daemona | neenee ... |
| 17:04.08 | neenee | Yes, I'm spammy now too I suppose ;) |
| 17:04.10 | Antiarc|Work | Cowboy__: Feels good, doesn't it? :) |
| 17:04.17 | Cowboy__ | lol |
| 17:04.17 | neenee | I'll just switch to another subject, silence :) |
| 17:04.25 | *** join/#wowace _DvdKhl_ (i=DvdKhl@p508A7210.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:04.39 | Cowboy__ | i used to get that back when i scripted for tribes |
| 17:04.43 | Cowboy__ | but that was a long time ago |
| 17:05.01 | Cowboy__ | and the stuff i write now, well people download them but don't comment too much |
| 17:05.34 | Cowboy__ | except the one time i screwed up and the guy ripped me a new asshole |
| 17:05.38 | buhdacruzin | cowboy you can write scripts |
| 17:05.38 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 17:06.01 | buhdacruzin | sql php |
| 17:06.03 | buhdacruzin | ? |
| 17:06.05 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf_ (i=MoonWolf@g173217.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 17:06.06 | neenee | I can |
| 17:06.27 | Cowboy__ | i assume he's still talking.. but i have him on ignore so i can't see anything he's saying |
| 17:06.32 | neenee | :) |
| 17:06.36 | buhdacruzin | really |
| 17:06.37 | neenee | Yes, he's asking you things. |
| 17:06.40 | buhdacruzin | lol |
| 17:06.41 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 17:06.42 | buhdacruzin | yes I am |
| 17:07.02 | Cowboy__ | is he asking me how to leave the channel? i think it's /part |
| 17:07.16 | buhdacruzin | I coul djust close the window |
| 17:07.17 | neenee | Nah, about php and sql, though I'm not sure what for. |
| 17:07.33 | buhdacruzin | I want to hire a coder for a project |
| 17:07.49 | neenee | No thanks, I already have a job, |
| 17:07.52 | Cowboy__ | hmmn.. i haven't done much with php and sql lately. i'm more of a javascript / html / css / actionscript kinda guy these days |
| 17:07.58 | neenee | :) |
| 17:08.24 | buhdacruzin | cowboy can you unigniore so I can PM you something |
| 17:08.26 | kenlyric | this is why playing with trolls is dangerous. It gets really boring fast. |
| 17:08.40 | art3mis | depends if they're magic trolls |
| 17:08.47 | buhdacruzin | I am not a troll I am a gremlin |
| 17:08.49 | art3mis | cuz the hair ALWAYS tickles yer nose |
| 17:08.54 | neenee | kenlyric: Agreed. Let's talk about squids and their uncanny ability to change color based on how they feel :) |
| 17:09.16 | art3mis | neenee: i think you meant mood rings ;P |
| 17:09.18 | Cowboy__ | the last time i did php involved writing a script to upload safari's bookmarks file transformed via XSLT into a custom html page complete with all my bookmarks, custom searches, and rss feeds to my web server for global access |
| 17:09.20 | neenee | :) |
| 17:09.23 | Cowboy__ | it's pretty neat actually |
| 17:09.39 | kenlyric | I'm having the strangest sense of deja vu. |
| 17:09.39 | art3mis | nerd |
| 17:09.46 | buhdacruzin | whys that |
| 17:09.54 | kenlyric | the squid thing, the mood rings, the troll, everything. |
| 17:10.05 | Antiarc|Work | art3mis: nobody in here has the right to use the "nerd" label :P |
| 17:10.10 | kenlyric | My name better not be on the list! |
| 17:10.13 | art3mis | nah thats just latent lsd in yer fat cells ;P |
| 17:10.14 | Cowboy__ | if only firefox stored its bookmarks in a legitimate XHTML format |
| 17:10.21 | Cowboy__ | bleh |
| 17:10.23 | Antiarc|Work | We write mini-programs for an online role-playing game. We are Nerds Bel Grande. |
| 17:10.30 | Cowboy__ | lol |
| 17:10.32 | MagicTroll | I am now the magic troll |
| 17:10.33 | kenlyric | what's this we stuff? |
| 17:10.44 | art3mis | ken is a geek |
| 17:10.52 | MagicTroll | I'm a troll |
| 17:10.54 | art3mis | he knows all the names of people in all the star treks |
| 17:10.59 | kenlyric | you can't see the DS9 playing on my second monitor. |
| 17:11.02 | art3mis | on screen adn real names |
| 17:11.03 | Cowboy__ | all i can say is that if you don't write mini-programs for an online roleplaying game, you're in the wrong channel |
| 17:11.17 | kenlyric | Roxanne Dawson! |
| 17:11.22 | *** join/#wowace nymbia (n=nymbia@71-218-138-197.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 17:11.27 | neenee | Here's a very nice example: http://www.nikutai-to-kageboushi.com/lbblog/images/mandjulia.jpg |
| 17:11.34 | art3mis | i think i want kate beckinsale for easter this year |
| 17:11.40 | kenlyric | I use mini-programs for an online roleplaying game. I'm in the right channel. |
| 17:11.49 | MagicTroll | I want mini programs |
| 17:11.50 | Cowboy__ | oh, that's ok then |
| 17:11.51 | art3mis | thats not a squid |
| 17:11.56 | art3mis | thats a octopus |
| 17:11.58 | neenee | True :| |
| 17:12.05 | kenlyric | I also report errors, which occassionally get fixed, so I make myself useful. |
| 17:12.09 | art3mis | and its not even real thats a computer generated fractal ;P |
| 17:12.11 | *** join/#wowace weab (n=asdf@66.89.174.138.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 17:12.18 | art3mis | my big book of fractals says so |
| 17:12.23 | kenlyric | that's a badass fucking fractal. |
| 17:12.27 | art3mis | (it can talk btw) |
| 17:12.42 | art3mis | hehe i actually have that huge math book |
| 17:12.51 | art3mis | wolfram's book |
| 17:13.10 | neenee | Well, google image isn't very forthcoming. |
| 17:13.10 | art3mis | with all the statistical analysis of math functions in nature and fractals and symmetry |
| 17:13.28 | art3mis | ~google colour-changing squids |
| 17:13.42 | neenee | mine was squids change color |
| 17:13.49 | kenlyric | http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/Mandelbrot%20Set |
| 17:13.55 | art3mis | thats more or a statement than a question ;P |
| 17:14.02 | neenee | I know ;) |
| 17:14.05 | MagicTroll | Ok I am gone and since you think I spam I shall http://www.wowgold4free.com/?ref=1256 |
| 17:14.17 | art3mis | google cant answer statements |
| 17:14.17 | MagicTroll | ther now I will get commission |
| 17:14.23 | MagicTroll | hahaha |
| 17:14.41 | art3mis | that would work if you actually believed people would sign up from here |
| 17:14.45 | *** join/#wowace sergio (i=sp@unaffiliated/sergio) |
| 17:14.50 | art3mis | which im guessing you do |
| 17:14.54 | kenlyric | man, I can't believe JC is going to be at Pax this year. WTB! |
| 17:14.59 | Antiarc|Work | afk writing script to spam random junk in the signup form to raise red flags and invalidate referral account >_> |
| 17:15.03 | neenee | JC? |
| 17:15.04 | art3mis | jesus christ? |
| 17:15.06 | neenee | lol |
| 17:15.08 | neenee | Cool! |
| 17:15.11 | kenlyric | JC with an audience like that would freakin rock. |
| 17:15.12 | neenee | I always wanted to meet him |
| 17:15.21 | kenlyric | no, the useful JC. |
| 17:15.21 | Antiarc|Work | My first thought was "Denton" |
| 17:15.25 | neenee | useful? |
| 17:15.27 | Antiarc|Work | Though he's kinda a Christ figure. |
| 17:15.32 | neenee | Who is that? |
| 17:15.37 | neenee | Jennifer Copez? |
| 17:15.39 | neenee | oO |
| 17:15.40 | kenlyric | the one that's alive, and therefor useful. |
| 17:15.40 | art3mis | jesus is totally useful |
| 17:15.48 | kenlyric | meh. |
| 17:15.53 | kenlyric | http://www.jonathancoulton.com |
| 17:15.54 | art3mis | go read Biff by christopher moore ;P |
| 17:15.56 | kenlyric | that JC |
| 17:15.57 | Antiarc|Work | Oooooh. |
| 17:15.58 | art3mis | err Lamb |
| 17:15.59 | neenee | Jesus is still alive, it's just that no one has seen him in a while. |
| 17:16.00 | Antiarc|Work | <3 Coulton |
| 17:16.04 | neenee | He's playing cards with Elvis |
| 17:16.11 | MagicTroll | and tupac |
| 17:16.11 | kenlyric | Antiarc|Work: he's gonna be at PAX. |
| 17:16.14 | art3mis | people have seen him |
| 17:16.17 | *** part/#wowace Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-170-178.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:16.21 | neenee | Yes, they're all playing cards |
| 17:16.29 | neenee | http://www.sfsmith.com/blog/archives/Cuttlefish.jpg |
| 17:16.38 | kenlyric | He's pretty awesome in a room with 50 people. I can't imagine what it would be like with a few thousand :) |
| 17:16.40 | art3mis | but like they say if he DID come back he'd have to pick a large city for maximum effect and all the crazies in buig cities have made him redundant ;P |
| 17:16.42 | *** join/#wowace rubik (n=rubik@cpe-76-167-55-89.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 17:16.45 | kenlyric | Re: your brains would be epic. |
| 17:16.49 | neenee | Jesus was great with only a dozen :) |
| 17:17.05 | Antiarc|Work | All we wanna do is eat your brains. |
| 17:17.08 | Antiarc|Work | We're not unreasonable |
| 17:17.10 | Antiarc|Work | I mean. |
| 17:17.15 | Antiarc|Work | No one's gonna eat your eyes. |
| 17:17.19 | kenlyric | if you haven't seen him live.... you must. |
| 17:17.35 | art3mis | If you really loved me you'd come down and let me eat your braaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnsssss |
| 17:17.41 | Cowboy__ | why are people posting photos of cehpalopods? |
| 17:17.41 | MagicTroll | Ok I am the admin if the site |
| 17:17.47 | Cowboy__ | it seems so random |
| 17:17.47 | MagicTroll | lol |
| 17:17.58 | art3mis | neenee has a fetish |
| 17:18.00 | neenee | Cowboy__: To show that they can change colors :) And it's just me I think, not people :) |
| 17:18.11 | Cowboy__ | ok, it's hard to keep track |
| 17:18.23 | Cowboy__ | there are more convos going on at once in this channel than i can handle |
| 17:18.23 | neenee | art3mis: Yea.. ooh... suctioncups and such. Sometimes I make my girlfriend put one on my forehead and slowly peel it off *shudders* :P |
| 17:18.28 | Cowboy__ | it's multitaskerrific |
| 17:18.32 | rubik | hey antiarc.. meant to ask you.. armory scripts you wrote.. i have them set up on my own server and i have a shells script in my crontab to pull the stats once every 24 hours.. for some reason though.. people that leave the guild take about 2+ days to be gone from the stats pages |
| 17:18.33 | art3mis | hahaha |
| 17:18.43 | kenlyric | Cowby__ geeze, this is only one channel. |
| 17:18.48 | art3mis | man have *I* got a webmovie for you! |
| 17:18.56 | MagicTroll | I need to set up cron |
| 17:19.03 | Cowboy__ | the other channels i'm in are all dead pretty much, so this is a huge change of pace for me |
| 17:19.08 | neenee | art3mis: Er, if it's about a baby being assisted with a suctioncup, no thanks |
| 17:19.10 | kenlyric | in my day, we multi-topic chatted in at least five channels. |
| 17:19.15 | MagicTroll | its all my fault |
| 17:19.25 | neenee | MagicTroll: You were leaving. |
| 17:19.30 | MagicTroll | was I |
| 17:19.33 | rubik | Antiarc|Work: i didn't mess with the 12 hour caching function.. so shouldn't their data NOT be pulled anymore if they're not on the guild roster? |
| 17:19.33 | neenee | kenlyric: Me too, when I was on linux :) |
| 17:19.41 | MagicTroll | oh yeah cant resist |
| 17:19.43 | kenlyric | I used to do it in a christian channel AND in a pagan channel. |
| 17:19.50 | kenlyric | Tthat's how I learned to never, ever mistell. |
| 17:19.51 | Cowboy__ | kenlyric: you misspelled my name, but you still included the underscores? man, save yourself the effort, use <tab> :D |
| 17:20.21 | kenlyric | yeah, i'm still getting used to this newfangled tab completion. |
| 17:20.23 | MagicTroll | anyone know how to set up cron on dreamhost |
| 17:20.39 | Antiarc|Work | rubik: I'm confused |
| 17:20.46 | rubik | i'm sorry.. heh |
| 17:20.52 | rubik | which part you confused on? |
| 17:20.53 | neenee | MagicTroll: man cron |
| 17:20.59 | kenlyric | "All I know is my steak tastes better when I take my steak tastes better pill" |
| 17:21.01 | MagicTroll | man cron? |
| 17:21.12 | Antiarc|Work | rubik: The whole thing. I have no idea what you were trying to do. :P |
| 17:21.38 | rubik | haha.. ok.. i'll try again.. 1 sec. |
| 17:21.51 | MagicTroll | neenee : man cron? |
| 17:22.02 | neenee | MagicTroll: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=manpage+for+cron&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 |
| 17:22.15 | Antiarc|Work | http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/ |
| 17:22.21 | neenee | http://www.linux.or.jp/JM/html/cron/man8/cron.8.html |
| 17:22.25 | neenee | Just use that |
| 17:22.34 | FISKER_Q | omfg opera neenee |
| 17:22.45 | neenee | hehe. |
| 17:22.48 | rubik | Antiarc|Work: so i have a shell script in my crontab on my server.. which runs get_stats.php or whatever to get my guild roster.. every 24 hours.. at 5am every day |
| 17:22.53 | neenee | FISKER_Q: omfg whatever you're using :) |
| 17:22.57 | Cowboy__ | opera lol |
| 17:23.02 | Antiarc|Work | rubik: Aha, ok |
| 17:23.04 | art3mis | http://www.boysfood.com/free-porn-videos/1070/Octopussy.html nsfw |
| 17:23.12 | rubik | Antiarc|Work: i have hard-coded my guild params in the php script so it doesn't need to be called via http |
| 17:23.18 | neenee | er, thanks for adding that bit, let me close the door. |
| 17:23.25 | Ominous | ckknight: ping |
| 17:23.33 | neenee | Ah, doesn't even load |
| 17:23.39 | Cowboy__ | i just curl everything into less, it saves me the overhead of using one of those LAME gui-style browsers |
| 17:23.44 | rubik | my problem is.. and it's not a big one.. if a person leaves the guild, he still shows up/gets pulled and onto the stats page 24-48 hrs later |
| 17:24.00 | neenee | Cowboy__: To each their own :) |
| 17:24.01 | rubik | but he shouldn't, right? cause your cached xml "expires" after 24 hrs |
| 17:24.04 | rubik | err.. 12 |
| 17:24.15 | Antiarc|Work | rubik: Hm, right. It should pull a new guild listing when the old one expires. |
| 17:24.18 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe lag in the armory? |
| 17:24.23 | kenlyric | rubik: the guild llist on armory doesn't seem to remove old people unless they join another guild. |
| 17:24.42 | neenee | kenlyric: Good thing too, I'm old and don't want to be removed :P |
| 17:24.51 | Cowboy__ | so wow i didn't really think when i woke up this morning that i'd be watching a video of a woman fisting another woman, but instead of using her fist, she'd be using an octopus' |
| 17:24.57 | kenlyric | We have someone who hasn't signed on since before the xpac still listed in our guild list, even though he was removed a while ago. |
| 17:25.08 | rubik | ok.. thought it might be something like that.. and depending on when they do that during the day.. combined with the 12 hr thing, there could be as long as 24+ hrs before i see a diff.. |
| 17:25.11 | neenee | Cowboy__: Ah, that saves me from having to watch it. |
| 17:25.14 | kenlyric | Cowboy__: the magic of IRC. It opens windows on the world. |
| 17:25.18 | MagicTroll | It seems everytime I post a link 5 people visit |
| 17:25.28 | Cowboy__ | oops i'm sorry let me rephrase |
| 17:25.32 | art3mis | http://www.filecabi.net/video/octopussy.html nsfw here's the other one |
| 17:25.37 | Cowboy__ | so wow i didn't really think when i woke up this morning that i'd be watching a SECOND video of a woman fisting another woman, but instead of using her fist, she'd be using an octopus' |
| 17:25.44 | rubik | cool.. np then |
| 17:25.47 | Cowboy__ | woo last night was crazy let me tell ya |
| 17:26.08 | art3mis | hah |
| 17:26.10 | MagicTroll | http://www.wowgold4free.com/?ref=1256 |
| 17:26.28 | xyu | i found a little octopus in my lunchbox yesterday |
| 17:26.32 | CIA-11 | 03ominous * r31272 10PitBull/Leader/Leader.lua: PitBull-Bug fix in leader- changed GetRaidRoster() to GetRaidRosterInfo() |
| 17:26.33 | neenee | art3mis: Hm. I prefer the James Bond one. |
| 17:26.40 | art3mis | heh |
| 17:26.44 | Cowboy__ | Referrer: dabazgurl@yahoo.com |
| 17:27.14 | Cowboy__ | this referrer usr lis the best |
| 17:27.17 | Cowboy__ | http://www.wowgold4free.com/?ref=1 |
| 17:27.27 | art3mis | i wonder when pitbull isnt gonna suck and actually display unitframes ;P{ |
| 17:27.29 | Cowboy__ | wow s/usr lis/url is/ |
| 17:27.47 | neenee | art3mis: pitbull? |
| 17:27.49 | FISKER_Q | it already does art3mis |
| 17:27.53 | FISKER_Q | you idiot! |
| 17:27.55 | FISKER_Q | :P |
| 17:27.55 | Ominous | uea |
| 17:27.55 | art3mis | not for me ;) |
| 17:27.59 | FISKER_Q | you suck then |
| 17:28.03 | Ominous | lol |
| 17:28.09 | art3mis | nu uh! |
| 17:28.31 | art3mis | sense? |
| 17:28.43 | Cowboy__ | science! |
| 17:28.48 | art3mis | yeah for some reason pitbull doesnt display at all |
| 17:28.55 | art3mis | focus target player party nothing |
| 17:29.05 | Ominous | is it enabled ? :P |
| 17:29.11 | FISKER_Q | OH what has science done? |
| 17:29.12 | art3mis | i think somehow its nymbia's fault |
| 17:29.19 | art3mis | yup it is |
| 17:29.36 | art3mis | maybe i should try "with externals" |
| 17:29.38 | art3mis | ;) |
| 17:29.48 | art3mis | since ckk has a nasty habit of making things up as he goes along |
| 17:34.01 | _neuron_ | art3mis, got nQuestLog with mad height setting now btw, not committed yet though, it has.. um.. issues :p |
| 17:34.31 | *** join/#wowace |MoX|Padwa| (n=zoomjr@pppoe-0277.urtc.ru) |
| 17:37.59 | *** join/#wowace ag` (n=ag`@0x503e79d4.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 17:39.06 | art3mis | oh? |
| 17:39.18 | art3mis | hehe keymayo fixed questsfu last night too |
| 17:39.24 | art3mis | so the detached tooltip is custom |
| 17:39.31 | art3mis | for easy modding |
| 17:40.47 | neenee | meeting. blech *poof* |
| 17:41.13 | art3mis | but what sorta issues do ya mean? |
| 17:41.33 | art3mis | hrm is there a way to make pitbull ONLY show party and raid frames? |
| 17:41.50 | art3mis | like hid tot, player, and target? |
| 17:41.53 | art3mis | hide |
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| 17:42.02 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 17:44.55 | rubik | is there an addon that will let me.. say... right-click on a mob (not their frame) and let me quickly choose a raid icon? |
| 17:45.07 | art3mis | fruitloops! |
| 17:46.01 | rubik | hmm.. not on svn |
| 17:46.06 | rubik | wowi? |
| 17:46.13 | art3mis | that or ui |
| 17:46.17 | rubik | kthx |
| 17:46.17 | art3mis | dont think its ace |
| 17:46.44 | *** join/#wowace Anea (n=anea@a62-251-8-41.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 17:46.47 | pastamancer | you can't hook right-click on a mob IIRC |
| 17:46.54 | pastamancer | just keybind the raid icons |
| 17:46.57 | Ominous | is if unit == ("player" or "targettarget" then the same as if unit == "player" or unit =="targettarget" then? |
| 17:47.05 | pastamancer | click to target and then punch the keybinding |
| 17:47.16 | Cowboy__ | no Ominous |
| 17:47.18 | Ominous | ok |
| 17:47.22 | pastamancer | or use a macro with [target=mouseover] |
| 17:47.34 | rubik | yeah.. makes sense, pasta |
| 17:47.54 | rubik | i'll just use http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LuckyCharms |
| 17:48.35 | *** join/#wowace Daemona (i=koaschte@i577A2757.versanet.de) |
| 17:48.44 | *** join/#wowace gxam (n=gxam@cpe-70-112-7-41.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 17:49.46 | art3mis | yeah luckycharms |
| 17:49.50 | art3mis | thats what i meant ;P |
| 17:49.56 | kergoth | Ominous: "player" or "targettarget" will evaluate to "player", since that string is neither nil nor false, then you'd get one comparison of unit against "player" |
| 17:49.57 | art3mis | i knew it was a cereal of some sort |
| 17:50.17 | Ominous | kergoth: oh yea |
| 17:51.33 | rubik | art3mis: haha.. np.. there's also FruityLoots |
| 17:51.40 | rubik | so i can see reason for confusion |
| 17:51.43 | kergoth | () just enforces evaluation order is all. lua statements dont have an associative property like in math :P |
| 17:52.26 | Cowboy__ | fruityloots is great |
| 17:52.58 | Cowboy__ | it makes me tingle "down there" you know? |
| 17:53.11 | rubik | tmi? |
| 17:53.18 | Cowboy__ | jei. |
| 17:53.51 | shieldb | Cowboy__, I used fruityloots for a while, then ended up switching over to xloot and toggling the autoloot option in interface options |
| 17:54.20 | art3mis | lootfilter makes me happy |
| 17:54.21 | Cowboy__ | i was always wary of something that changed up the loot frame too much |
| 17:54.29 | art3mis | it makes fishing for stonescale so much easier |
| 17:54.33 | Cowboy__ | fear of not being able to see something i wanted |
| 17:54.41 | Cowboy__ | what is it art3mis? |
| 17:54.51 | art3mis | it basically auto deletes items you tell it to |
| 17:54.58 | Cowboy__ | i wrote an addon that toggled auto-loot on when a fishing pole is equipped |
| 17:55.08 | Cowboy__ | ah that would be a good one to use |
| 17:55.15 | art3mis | or just doesnt get based on swettings like it wont get lower than uncommon if thats yer threshold |
| 17:55.35 | Cowboy__ | i came up with what might possibly be the best addon name ever |
| 17:55.46 | shieldb | Cowboy__, xloot doesn't really change up the loot window too much - it adds the ability to link everything in your loot window to a channel and displays multiple pages at the same time, plus the quickloot/fruityloot stuff |
| 17:55.53 | Cowboy__ | a fishing addon called Cowboy's Master Baiter |
| 17:55.59 | kergoth | i want an addon to automatically open fucking clams when i loot them |
| 17:56.00 | Cowboy__ | hmmn |
| 17:56.06 | Cowboy__ | i'll look at it shieldb |
| 17:56.42 | shieldb | kergoth, it needs to be named clamdigger if such an addon is ever written |
| 17:56.42 | rubik | i'd support such an addon wholeheartedly |
| 17:56.46 | rubik | (the clamdigger one) |
| 17:56.53 | kergoth | i saw one once |
| 17:56.56 | kergoth | but it was buggy |
| 17:57.01 | kergoth | it didnt notice my inventory was full |
| 17:57.05 | kergoth | and kept trying to loot this clam indefinately :P |
| 17:57.08 | Cowboy__ | there used to be one called OpenClam, back before there was auto loot |
| 17:57.11 | art3mis | kergoth is lame |
| 17:57.16 | rubik | and it needs option for "destroy loot if it's just clam meat".. don't waste my bag space |
| 17:57.23 | Cowboy__ | so it would open them all but you'd have to still click the items inside |
| 17:57.27 | shieldb | Cowboy__, http://wowace.com/wiki/XLoot |
| 17:57.30 | art3mis | at th3e clams to a slot on yer autobar |
| 17:57.38 | art3mis | then if you've got some you can see it |
| 17:57.43 | art3mis | and just click poof done |
| 17:58.01 | art3mis | lootfilter can do that rubik ;P |
| 17:58.03 | Cowboy__ | shieldb: it looks like it changes the loot window substantially |
| 17:58.14 | art3mis | just add it to the list of crap to destroy |
| 17:58.34 | rubik | interesting.. will have to look into it |
| 17:58.43 | rubik | sounds like a dangerous addon.. lootfilter.. hah |
| 17:58.43 | [Ammo] | kergoth: check the locksmith code, and adjust for clam opening and call it clamiliscious |
| 17:58.49 | rubik | oops.. there goes your purplez |
| 17:58.51 | Cowboy__ | looks nice tho |
| 17:59.17 | shieldb | rubik, I'd think you still would have to type DELETE into the box to destroy an epic/blue item |
| 17:59.23 | art3mis | heh the good side is that to destroy stuff you need to add it to the list ;P |
| 17:59.28 | art3mis | AND it has to be looted |
| 17:59.38 | art3mis | it wont trigger if it doesnt loot |
| 17:59.45 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r31273 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Terestian.lua: |
| 17:59.45 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Terestian: |
| 17:59.45 | CIA-11 | - icon for sacrifice player |
| 17:59.46 | rubik | makes sense |
| 18:01.17 | art3mis | so back to my important question |
| 18:01.30 | art3mis | is there a way to make pitbulls non raid.party frames go away? |
| 18:02.05 | Proph | is there a mod that notifies me when Fearward is gone on a player? need this for arenas... |
| 18:02.12 | kenlyric | openclam worked! |
| 18:02.18 | kenlyric | this former fishing bot can confirm that! |
| 18:02.54 | Ominous | PitBull:DestroyUnitFrame("player") PitBull:DestroyUnitFrame("target") etc |
| 18:03.50 | art3mis | ahh so no slash or options but /script sh9ould do it? |
| 18:04.09 | art3mis | is it targetoftarget or ToT ? |
| 18:04.43 | Ominous | targettarget |
| 18:04.46 | Cowboy__ | "targettarget" maybe? (just a guess) |
| 18:04.50 | Ominous | ^^ |
| 18:05.50 | pastamancer | what Cowboy__ said |
| 18:06.56 | Cowboy__ | the standard unitId convention is to simply append "target" to a unitId to get that unit's target so.. |
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| 18:07.09 | Cowboy__ | "targettargettarget" etc |
| 18:07.22 | Ominous | ckknight:pin |
| 18:07.24 | Ominous | g |
| 18:07.26 | art3mis | thanks |
| 18:07.49 | art3mis | i only want the aprty frames ;) |
| 18:07.52 | art3mis | party |
| 18:08.08 | art3mis | use duf customs for player and target/tot |
| 18:08.35 | ag`_ | a little overkill to use two unitframe addons |
| 18:08.40 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 18:09.05 | Cowboy__ | x-perl seems pretty |
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| 18:11.12 | Ominous | ~seen ckknight |
| 18:11.42 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (9h 21s) #norganna (9h 21s) #wowace (9h 21s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 8h 50m 41s, last said: 'don't bug me'. |
| 18:11.43 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r31274 10ElkBuffBars/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:11.43 | CIA-11 | ElkBuffBars -> THIS IS NOW IN BETA! |
| 18:11.43 | CIA-11 | - fixed externals |
| 18:11.43 | CIA-11 | - added another bunch of stuff to the dewdrop menu |
| 18:11.43 | CIA-11 | - it's now possible to create and delete bar groups |
| 18:11.43 | CIA-11 | - removed LoD |
| 18:11.43 | CIA-11 | - enabled SVs |
| 18:11.45 | Ominous | elkano !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:11.51 | Elkano | :) |
| 18:11.53 | Chompers | Yay |
| 18:13.02 | Mikma | Elkano: hi |
| 18:14.48 | Elkano | :) |
| 18:14.48 | Mikma | Elkano: ebb2? :) |
| 18:14.48 | Elkano | well, yes ^^ |
| 18:14.48 | Chompers | ebb...v2 |
| 18:14.48 | Chompers | now its EXTREME |
| 18:14.48 | Mikma | Elkano: barless? |
| 18:14.48 | Chompers | to the max, dude |
| 18:15.01 | Elkano | Mikma, if you mean "<icon><time>", yes :) |
| 18:15.09 | Mikma | Elkano: YAY |
| 18:15.23 | Elkano | simply disable the bar ^^ |
| 18:16.33 | Ominous | elkano: could you disable debugging?, like where it says stkciking bargroup1 |
| 18:16.54 | Elkano | oh, that's the only debug message in it ^^' |
| 18:17.16 | Elkano | only happens when moving a group around |
| 18:17.35 | kenlyric | zomg, beta! |
| 18:17.42 | kenlyric | is it hot sexy? |
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| 18:18.47 | Elkano | well, it's what you make out of it ^^ btw: I suggest to also install SharedMedia in order to get some more bar textures |
| 18:19.15 | kenlyric | is the default bar texture from the original included? |
| 18:19.33 | Chompers | ill probs give it a few more revisions before swapping over to it |
| 18:19.52 | kenlyric | living on the edge is fun. |
| 18:20.06 | Chompers | its bad when something goes wrong in the middle of a raid |
| 18:20.12 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 18:20.49 | Chompers | "chomp, why is the curator killing the raid?" |
| 18:20.59 | Chompers | "my.....addons..." |
| 18:21.03 | Cowboy__ | heh |
| 18:21.04 | kenlyric | well, I'm not sure what a buff bar would do :) |
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| 18:26.23 | Elkano | kenlyric, it doesn't bring a texture of its own so if you don't have SharedMedia installed it will most likely use Blizzard's default. But if you do, choose Otravi as texture (it will be choosen as default if it's available) |
| 18:26.25 | Ominous | elkano: still no saving... |
| 18:26.41 | Elkano | Ominous, it does save for me :/ |
| 18:26.51 | Ominous | oh, i need to restart wow |
| 18:26.54 | Ominous | probs |
| 18:27.05 | Elkano | yes, updated toc ^^ |
| 18:27.48 | Elkano | Chompers, you can have it show the targets buffs/debuffs in the middle of your screen in REALLY LARGE ;) |
| 18:28.24 | Elkano | as I'll be leaving shortly, feel free to relay feedback to http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5467.0 |
| 18:28.43 | Ominous | elkano: can you make it hide blizzards fram |
| 18:28.45 | Ominous | e |
| 18:29.13 | art3mis | ag`_: yeah i like the layout for player and target, but for party i need soemthing a bit more compact |
| 18:29.15 | kenlyric | it throws an error without shared media. |
| 18:29.30 | kenlyric | so I guess I'll install that :) |
| 18:29.34 | Elkano | it doesn't? hmm... that was the last thing I included but didn't realy test it that much... but should work :/ |
| 18:29.39 | art3mis | hence why im looking for a tiny party unitframes mod |
| 18:29.43 | Elkano | it does? what does it say? |
| 18:29.48 | kergoth | [Ammo]: how about a modified LockSmith that will show anything in your inventory that can be opened and isnt locked? then the boxes you pick would move from the locksmith button to the opener button to be clicked to open/loot |
| 18:30.12 | kenlyric | just say sit can't find a library instance of sharedmedia in two of the lua files. |
| 18:30.43 | Elkano | Ominous, most likely it misses the event, I'll force the function hiding OnEnable |
| 18:30.52 | kergoth | hmm, lootfilter2 says it can auto-open clams and scrollboxes |
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| 18:30.55 | kenlyric | do I need both sharedmedia and sharedmedialib? |
| 18:31.04 | Ominous | it works now... just it didnt when i did it lod |
| 18:31.10 | Elkano | kenlyric, SharedMediaLib isn't the same as SharedMedia ^^ |
| 18:31.20 | Elkano | are you running disembedded? |
| 18:31.22 | art3mis | oh there's a good chance it can |
| 18:31.36 | art3mis | i never set it to since i just junked the clams |
| 18:33.17 | Ominous | eklano: also can you make it so the name and time dont run into each other? |
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| 18:34.05 | Industrial | Barrens or Silverpine |
| 18:34.29 | Ominous | and what is TENCH bar? |
| 18:34.29 | art3mis | silverpine |
| 18:34.53 | art3mis | hrm benecast doesnt seem to like pitbull |
| 18:35.41 | Loki|muh | here in germany the chat in the barrens is full of kiddies and scum... is this for englisch servers the same? |
| 18:35.58 | Elkano | \o\ Loki|muh /o/ |
| 18:36.04 | shieldb | anyone know if any kz trash is tied to nightbane specifically? I'm thinking no, but I haven't actually tried killed him when there were other bosses up |
| 18:36.09 | Loki|muh | huhu Elkano :-) |
| 18:36.10 | Industrial | Loki|muh: WHERE IS MANKRIKS WIFE?!?!/ |
| 18:36.18 | shieldb | Loki|muh, barrens chat is barrens chat |
| 18:36.19 | Loki|muh | Industrial: lol thanks :) |
| 18:37.11 | kenlyric | shieldb: I was told the ethereals are. |
| 18:37.16 | Elkano | Ominous, that is a known 'feature', still have to look into anchoring them somehow so they'll get shortend... but with the custemizable layout that's hard :/ |
| 18:37.20 | shieldb | the ethereals are tied to netherspite |
| 18:37.21 | kenlyric | and the ghosts. |
| 18:37.35 | shieldb | same with the spell shades / sorcerous shades |
| 18:37.36 | kenlyric | oh, I get those two confused. |
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| 18:37.42 | Elkano | and TENCH is temporary enchantments for weapons ike poison or windfurry |
| 18:37.44 | hypetech | anybody on right now that uses DogChow? I have a simple question |
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| 18:37.53 | kenlyric | are they both dragons? |
| 18:37.57 | shieldb | yeah |
| 18:38.05 | shieldb | nightbane is a skeletal dragon |
| 18:38.08 | kenlyric | two dragons with same starting letter confuses me. |
| 18:38.10 | CIA-11 | 03eraslin * r31275 10DKPmon_eqDKP/exportmod.lua: DKPmon_eqDKP: Add attendeee info to CTRT-xml bosskill. Add note for zone name. |
| 18:38.12 | shieldb | netherspite is a 'normal' dragon |
| 18:38.14 | Elkano | Loki, feel free to test EBBs, too ^^ |
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| 18:38.25 | hypetech | Does anybody know how to get to the config panel for dogchow? |
| 18:38.47 | Elkano | ~whaleparry FISKER_Q |
| 18:38.48 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry FISKER_Q's attacks. |
| 18:38.52 | art3mis | i miss ebta |
| 18:38.54 | art3mis | beta |
| 18:38.58 | hypetech | I tried /dogchow, /dog, /chow, and none of them work. I can't remember the command |
| 18:39.09 | shieldb | ./woof ? |
| 18:39.10 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.14 | art3mis | the devs put in a mob called Mankrik's Wife because of the running joke |
| 18:39.43 | FISKER_Q | ~whalerape Elkano |
| 18:39.48 | art3mis | and one day the roaming felreave was a giant bear |
| 18:40.26 | FISKER_Q | that was because of a patch though |
| 18:40.31 | FISKER_Q | wasn't giant either :P |
| 18:40.46 | art3mis | it was the outlands welcome bear ;) |
| 18:40.47 | FISKER_Q | which was the annoying part for you were like "awww cute little bear" |
| 18:40.52 | hypetech | ya it's not /dc either |
| 18:40.54 | art3mis | i think it was to get back at hunters |
| 18:40.54 | FISKER_Q | "ARGH NOOOOOOOOOOO PLEASE DONT HURT ME" |
| 18:40.56 | kenlyric | heh.. oh look, tiny little bear. |
| 18:41.35 | kenlyric | there should be more random replacement of models. |
| 18:41.35 | art3mis | i wonder how many hunters died trying to tame it ;P |
| 18:42.19 | kenlyric | I used to have a mod for quake, when you loaded its saved game in vanilla quake, would swap out many of the models. |
| 18:42.35 | kenlyric | so you get attacked by ammo boxes or gibbed limbs. |
| 18:43.11 | kenlyric | it was kinda fun not knowing if an ammo box was real or something that would kill you. |
| 18:44.10 | FISKER_Q | wtf is this shit nymbia? |
| 18:44.10 | Elkano | kenlyric, Mimics was something I missed in WoW ^^ |
| 18:44.36 | nymbia | FISKER_Q: your mother. |
| 18:45.46 | FISKER_Q | oh |
| 18:45.56 | FISKER_Q | anyways what the fuck is interactlines for? |
| 18:45.57 | art3mis | meh extreme button bars and benecast don't like pitbull |
| 18:46.14 | art3mis | err unit buttons |
| 18:46.34 | nymbia | FISKER_Q: nothing |
| 18:46.48 | FISKER_Q | i don't like you |
| 18:46.54 | Funkeh` | shieldb ping |
| 18:47.06 | shieldb | Funkeh` !! |
| 18:47.27 | Chompers | woo |
| 18:47.33 | Chompers | curator down again :D |
| 18:47.50 | Funkeh` | shieldb, your next project, save the bars so /rl doesn't remove them and click bars, print the name/time of the bar in click on ctrl click |
| 18:48.04 | Funkeh` | in raid |
| 18:48.13 | shieldb | yeah that's top of my list atm |
| 18:48.39 | Funkeh` | good good |
| 18:48.43 | Funkeh` | ill keep you on your toes |
| 18:48.56 | shieldb | that and implementing dewdrop for config menus |
| 18:51.19 | CIA-11 | 03shieldb * r31276 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Incubator.toc): Incubator: Improve boss death handling - should stop new bars from appearing for trash that won't respawn anymore. (drycode) |
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| 18:55.41 | sbu | meeh maulgar :/ |
| 18:56.16 | CIA-11 | 03eraslin * r31277 10DKPmon_eqDKP/exportmod.lua: DKPmon_eqDKP: Fix typo. |
| 19:01.08 | ckknight | Ominous: pong |
| 19:01.25 | Ominous | ckknight: with new profile system how can you hide frames like the aura frame |
| 19:01.53 | ckknight | new profile system? |
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| 19:02.34 | FISKER_Q | this is delicious |
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| 19:03.57 | Ominous | ckknight: the register layout |
| 19:04.08 | ckknight | oh |
| 19:04.25 | ckknight | auraFrame = function(unit, frame) frame.auraFrame:Hide() end |
| 19:04.34 | FISKER_Q | Why does the pitbull eat my babies when i hit the profile pitbull button? :o |
| 19:04.35 | Ominous | didnt work |
| 19:04.37 | FISKER_Q | i got like 10fps |
| 19:06.51 | Ominous | ckknight: also i added a fix for leader module |
| 19:07.20 | Antiarc|Work | Holy shit. |
| 19:07.30 | Antiarc|Work | I am IMing with Shawn Fanning. |
| 19:07.32 | ckknight | Ominous: commited? |
| 19:07.33 | Antiarc|Work | He found my armory tools. |
| 19:07.34 | Antiarc|Work | And uh. |
| 19:07.35 | Antiarc|Work | Wow. |
| 19:07.43 | ckknight | Antiarc: who's Shawn Fanning? |
| 19:07.51 | Antiarc|Work | The guy that started Napster, and now Rupture. |
| 19:08.01 | ckknight | okay |
| 19:08.03 | Ominous | ckknight: yea its in log it you missed out Info on GetRaidRosterInfo() |
| 19:08.12 | ckknight | alright then |
| 19:09.08 | kenlyric | Antiarc|Work: I heard he stole the idea for napster from his roommate. :) |
| 19:10.46 | kergoth | ~antiarc |
| 19:10.57 | purl | rumour has it, antiarc is the author of Sanity and Hemlock, as well as the author of the WoW Armory Tools, found at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/ - I guess he's the destroyer of worlds, too, or somethin' |
| 19:10.57 | kergoth | whats the url for the tools again? :P |
| 19:10.59 | xyu | anyone know how much an epic mount training is @ revered? |
| 19:11.04 | kergoth | ah, there we are |
| 19:11.34 | kenlyric | xyu: same as it is at honored, 540g. |
| 19:11.50 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r31278 10BigWigs_GruulAssist/BigWigs_GruulAssist.lua: BigWigs_GruulAssist: fix error when disabling affecting newer versions of BigWigs |
| 19:13.06 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31279 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - added :OnUpdateLayout(unit, frame, name) which is called after `name` is updated by the layout. |
| 19:13.15 | xyu | k, thanks ^^ |
| 19:20.02 | Antiarc|Work | Holy effing shit. |
| 19:20.08 | Antiarc|Work | Shawn Fanning wants to hire me. |
| 19:20.11 | Antiarc|Work | Holy. Shit. |
| 19:20.41 | nymbia | nice ;) |
| 19:20.45 | ilifin | wait, mistar napster himself? |
| 19:20.52 | Mikma | wah, where did elkano go |
| 19:20.56 | Mikma | that bastard |
| 19:20.59 | Antiarc|Work | ilifin: Yes. |
| 19:21.14 | ilifin | kewlness |
| 19:21.16 | FISKER_Q | that was just some spam i sent you Antiarc |
| 19:21.52 | ckknight | Antiarc: I'm a good coder too :-( |
| 19:22.46 | ckknight | :-P |
| 19:22.58 | Antiarc|Work | Hehehe, I would recommend you in a heartbeat, ckknight :) |
| 19:23.18 | Antiarc|Work | Buuuuuut holy shit. I am shaking over here. Wow. |
| 19:23.26 | Antiarc|Work | This was a friggin' 3-hour evening job. |
| 19:24.05 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r31280 10ElkBuffBars/ElkBuffBars.toc: ElkBuffBars: fixed typo which prevented SharedMedia from loading (.lib -> .lua) |
| 19:24.18 | Mikma | LOOK! I MADE A COMMIT! |
| 19:24.34 | kergoth | surprised you remembered your password |
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| 19:24.58 | ckknight | grats, Mikma |
| 19:26.07 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r31281 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (Stitch-1.0/ Stitch-1.1/ filelist.wau): |
| 19:26.07 | CIA-11 | !!!StandaloneLibraries: |
| 19:26.07 | CIA-11 | - Stitch-1.0 -> Stitch-1.1 |
| 19:26.53 | ckknight | didn't Shawn Fanning move to Hawaii? |
| 19:27.13 | Antiarc|Work | He's in the bay area, apparently. |
| 19:27.46 | ckknight | my Networking teacher has been telling me lies |
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| 19:29.57 | kenlyric | if he offered me a job I'd run screaming. I don't need that kind of uncertainty in my life :) |
| 19:30.22 | kenlyric | cash out early! |
| 19:30.24 | chutwig | priest priest priest |
| 19:30.32 | kergoth | if you're a coder you already have the uncertainty, whether you admit it or not |
| 19:30.38 | FISKER_Q | kergoth is password is mikma |
| 19:30.43 | FISKER_Q | so it's not hard to remember |
| 19:30.44 | kergoth | can get your job offshored to india any day |
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| 19:30.59 | Mikma | FISKER_Q: stop reading my mind |
| 19:31.14 | chutwig | kergoth: that's why i'm glad i'm a sysadmin and not a programmer |
| 19:31.19 | chutwig | harder to offshore my job |
| 19:31.23 | kergoth | aye |
| 19:31.33 | kergoth | and both are pretty much thankless jobs |
| 19:31.36 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:31.48 | kenlyric | kergoth, y eah, being a coder would suck. |
| 19:32.00 | chutwig | though i have every expectation that tata or wipro will soon try to offer "prepackaged systems administrators" |
| 19:32.09 | kenlyric | unless you worked for a university. They rarely offshore their jobs. |
| 19:32.24 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r31282 10SimpleChatMods/antispam.lua: SimpleChatMods: antispam: Added igm365.com. |
| 19:32.28 | kergoth | maybe i should switch to systems administration |
| 19:32.31 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:32.45 | kergoth | i think i still have my 3 linux certs laying around here somewhere |
| 19:33.02 | chutwig | i go in for my RHCE next month and then i'm off to try to find a new job |
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| 19:33.16 | kergoth | RHCE isnt a bad certification |
| 19:33.21 | kergoth | they at least test you in real world situations |
| 19:33.26 | kergoth | here's a box, fix X Y and Z |
| 19:33.31 | chutwig | yeah |
| 19:33.41 | chutwig | which i've done for the past 2 years professionally and for however many years before that as a hobby |
| 19:34.01 | Ominous | ckknight: the suggestion that you suggested didnt work :S |
| 19:34.03 | chutwig | i don't expect it to be a complete sleeper but i don't think it's likely i'll be tripped up |
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| 19:34.27 | chutwig | more respectable than being an MCSE, at least :3 |
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| 19:46.36 | Amadeo | What's MCSE? Must Consult Someone Experienced!? |
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| 19:47.40 | Cowboy__ | the M stands for Microsoft, and the E stands for Expensive iirc |
| 19:47.54 | Cowboy__ | the CS are just filler to make it look like a real acronym |
| 19:48.00 | Amadeo | oh ok |
| 19:48.02 | Amadeo | I was close |
| 19:49.46 | knarf- | anyone knows of a mod that puts on ignore trades by itself? |
| 19:52.05 | Cowboy__ | CT has something that blocks trades while you're in the mailbox i thinkl |
| 19:52.37 | knarf- | might be postal |
| 19:52.42 | ckknight | Microsoft Computer Systems Expert I think |
| 19:53.16 | Cowboy__ | it's a certification |
| 19:53.16 | Industrial | Elkano quit? |
| 19:53.16 | Industrial | ack |
| 19:53.16 | Industrial | getting a gratuity lib error |
| 19:53.16 | renchap | knarf-: seems to be postal here |
| 19:53.34 | renchap | but not occurs for all postal users |
| 19:53.34 | knarf- | guess It forgets to remove it when you leave the mailbox? |
| 19:53.54 | Mikma | what's the "item's broken" window called? |
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| 19:54.13 | [dRaCo] | durability frame? |
| 19:54.18 | Mikma | yeah, that |
| 19:55.04 | [dRaCo] | "durability frame"? :þ |
| 19:56.59 | knarf- | anyone know if Redemption of the fallen is safe to use on shade of aran? :> |
| 19:57.05 | knarf- | I don't feel like testing it :P |
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| 19:59.31 | renchap | knarf-: found the bug |
| 19:59.42 | knarf- | okay? |
| 19:59.46 | renchap | go into your WTF/Config.wtf |
| 19:59.54 | renchap | and remove the line SET BlockTrades "1" |
| 20:00.03 | knarf- | ahh, I will |
| 20:01.22 | knarf- | noone tried using Redemption of the Fallen defender on shade of aran ? |
| 20:02.12 | Funkeh` | shieldb |
| 20:02.56 | Mikma | _neuron_: argh |
| 20:03.19 | Funkeh` | shieldb: 457 --> forgot a 'then' 481 --> random comma |
| 20:03.25 | _neuron_ | Mikma, wha? |
| 20:03.32 | Mikma | _neuron_: you in game? |
| 20:03.39 | _neuron_ | yeah |
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| 20:04.30 | Mikma | _neuron_: test this: fubar plugin on nQL -> Settings -> SmartVisibility, and toggle the both Auto -toggles |
| 20:04.49 | Mikma | _neuron_: and where's option "show current zone quests only"??! |
| 20:05.08 | _neuron_ | well auto folding quests out of zone and unfolding current zone should do that :p |
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| 20:05.26 | _neuron_ | and I got both auto on :P |
| 20:05.36 | Mikma | _neuron_: erll, test the toggles and see what happens |
| 20:05.46 | CIA-11 | 03renchap * r31283 10Postal/Modules/TradeBlock.lua: |
| 20:05.46 | CIA-11 | Postal: |
| 20:05.46 | CIA-11 | - Adding a way to fix the bug where postal keeps blocking trades when you have no mailbox window open |
| 20:05.50 | _neuron_ | error when you toggle it? I'll check it after |
| 20:05.58 | Mikma | yeah, error from both |
| 20:06.05 | stavmar | Antiarc|Work: hey i had a feature request for your armory stuff if you are there and if you are tkaing feature requests... |
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| 20:06.18 | Antiarc|Work | I am here, and fire away |
| 20:06.19 | _neuron_ | I'll fix it after |
| 20:06.32 | Mikma | _neuron_: SmartVisibility.lua:205: attempt to call method 'OnZoneChange' (a nil value) |
| 20:06.56 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31284 10PitBull/ (Aura/Aura.lua PitBull.lua WatchdogTags.lua): |
| 20:06.56 | CIA-11 | PitBull - changed :OnUpdateLayout to not include the name parameter and only fire after the layout is finished. |
| 20:06.56 | CIA-11 | - WatchdogTags only updates on fontstrings that are shown. |
| 20:06.56 | CIA-11 | - Aura only updates when auraFrame is shown, and hides all buffs when hidden. |
| 20:07.05 | _neuron_ | I'll fix that after the instance :) |
| 20:07.15 | Mikma | good good |
| 20:07.17 | stavmar | what about adding a column so I know after sorting how many have a certain key or how many members have a certain skill, etc. |
| 20:07.27 | Mikma | too bad elkano ain't online |
| 20:08.12 | Mikma | i'm waiting for an option to remove the manabar from ToT (in PitBull) |
| 20:08.28 | stavmar | Antiarc|Work: possibly an export to spreadsheet program so that we can sort afterwards. I basically want to be able to say we have 30 members with karazhan keys with out having to hand count them? |
| 20:08.43 | Antiarc|Work | stavmar: You can sort already. Just click a header. |
| 20:08.48 | Antiarc|Work | There's an in-page javascript sort. |
| 20:09.08 | stavmar | Antiarc|Work: yes, and thank you for that, but i would like to have counts as well |
| 20:09.19 | Antiarc|Work | Aha, right. |
| 20:09.36 | renchap | maybe a badic csv export function ? |
| 20:09.40 | renchap | *basic |
| 20:09.41 | stavmar | like a summary statistics, descriptive statistics if you will |
| 20:10.14 | stavmar | .csv export would work quickly, I am just not so good and doing the export froma n HTML page? |
| 20:11.20 | renchap | csv is plain text, so thats not very hard to do |
| 20:11.21 | Mikma | _neuron_: and, make sure that the 2 features are working since i'm missing really the "autoshow current zone quests only" (with descriptions) |
| 20:11.45 | Ominous | ckknight: nice :) |
| 20:12.01 | ckknight | Ominous: doing Health and Mana now as well |
| 20:12.33 | Mikma | ckknight: what does that mean? |
| 20:12.39 | Mikma | ckknight: option to hide them in frames? :D |
| 20:12.52 | ckknight | Mikma: layouts can hide parts now |
| 20:12.54 | ckknight | such as the mana bar |
| 20:13.16 | _neuron_ | Mikma, the feature works, the buttons I dunno about :P |
| 20:13.37 | ag` | ckknight: I suggest you provide the ability to set secondary points in layouts, like aguf can |
| 20:13.48 | ckknight | secondary points? |
| 20:13.55 | ag` | works great for enabling disabling things like bars and portraits |
| 20:14.04 | ckknight | oh, yea, that's in by definition |
| 20:14.14 | ckknight | and arbitrary |
| 20:14.23 | ag` | so if something is hidden it will set point to the next in line |
| 20:14.33 | ckknight | the layouts are defined by functions, not by some table format |
| 20:14.40 | stavmar | Antiarc|Work: another thing I would do with exported data is to add an Alt character collumn, so that we could use the data to help understand how many members of the guild can go to karazhan in one night/ |
| 20:14.46 | ckknight | so it's up to the function to figure out, based on what's on the frame |
| 20:15.04 | ckknight | if .portrait is not there, for example, the health bar shouldn't attach to it |
| 20:15.04 | ag` | yeah, a good idea |
| 20:15.16 | ag` | exactly |
| 20:16.01 | shieldb | Funkeh`, woo, that'll teach me to code while I'm at lunch at work |
| 20:16.16 | Funkeh` | :) |
| 20:16.17 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31285 10PitBull/ (Aura/Aura.lua Health/Health.lua Mana/Mana.lua): |
| 20:16.17 | CIA-11 | PitBull - Health and Mana no longer update if their bars are hidden. |
| 20:16.17 | CIA-11 | - Aura now makes sure to update if recently shown. |
| 20:16.26 | ckknight | ag`: I actually already use that with the Leader/MasterLooter modules |
| 20:16.31 | shieldb | or code then commit, rather |
| 20:16.37 | ckknight | so that if you're a leader and a master looter, the master looter will move slightly to the right |
| 20:16.47 | ckknight | which I actually noticed that agUF was overlapping them |
| 20:16.52 | ag` | yes |
| 20:17.15 | ag` | I could fix that, but I'm putting my bets on putbull |
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| 20:17.44 | ckknight | PitBull :-P |
| 20:17.47 | stavmar | ag`: so you are going to stop developing you UFs once ckknight's come out |
| 20:18.07 | ckknight | seems like a bit of a waste |
| 20:18.14 | renchap | maybe aguf will me a module for pitbull :) |
| 20:18.21 | renchap | *be |
| 20:18.22 | ag` | of course, if PitBull can do what I need.. less worrying for me |
| 20:18.28 | CIA-11 | 03shieldb * r31286 10Incubator/Core.lua: Incubator: drycode typo fixes |
| 20:18.33 | stavmar | lol |
| 20:18.42 | FryGuy- | shieldb: are you here in the channel? |
| 20:18.44 | ckknight | no, renchap |
| 20:18.54 | shieldb | FryGuy-, yrp |
| 20:18.58 | FryGuy- | what's wrong with aguf? |
| 20:19.06 | shieldb | yep, even |
| 20:19.08 | kergoth | ckknight: have you decided on a preferred mechanism for configuration in pitbull in general? how module and layout configuration will get set up and interact? |
| 20:19.12 | FryGuy- | there's no serpentshrine stuff in incubator right? |
| 20:19.12 | ckknight | hard to hack on |
| 20:19.26 | shieldb | not yet, no |
| 20:19.34 | kergoth | curious about, in this case, injecting scale options into pitbull's aceoptions from the layout |
| 20:19.36 | FryGuy- | i could add it tonight |
| 20:19.38 | Mikma | put some cock on it |
| 20:19.40 | shieldb | if you have a list of mob names / respawn times / boss shutoff stuff I can add it easily |
| 20:19.44 | FryGuy- | if you want me to send you a diff |
| 20:20.02 | shieldb | yeah that'd be awesome |
| 20:20.36 | ckknight | kergoth: well, I haven't figured out, for example, options specific to layout |
| 20:20.39 | ckknight | which I do want |
| 20:20.53 | ckknight | so that layouts can have their own options, e.g. aura position |
| 20:21.12 | FryGuy- | actually, i have them in my mobhealth |
| 20:22.08 | Mikma | yay |
| 20:22.10 | Mikma | ~cock me |
| 20:22.43 | Industrial | what.. how do i configure ElkBuffBars? |
| 20:22.57 | Mikma | Industrial: fubar plugin |
| 20:23.10 | ag` | ckknight: do you have buffs and debuffs seperate, or do they mix, or can they do both (preferably?) |
| 20:23.17 | ckknight | they mix for now |
| 20:23.20 | Industrial | Mikma: wtf? |
| 20:23.26 | ag` | ckknight: goodie |
| 20:23.30 | ckknight | the Aura module needs work, but it really won't be hard to change it |
| 20:23.34 | Industrial | Mikma: >:| its not included in ElkBuffBars? |
| 20:24.05 | Mikma | Industrial: yes it is, if you're using the ElkBuffBars (notice the S) |
| 20:24.21 | Mikma | the ElkBuffBar (without s) is /elkbuffbar or so |
| 20:24.23 | Industrial | yeah i am |
| 20:24.33 | Mikma | ckknight: any way of configuring the frames? |
| 20:24.38 | Industrial | but no slash command /elk<tab><tab> |
| 20:24.41 | ckknight | Mikma: /pit |
| 20:24.59 | FISKER_Q | /spit |
| 20:25.04 | Mikma | ckknight: well i can't configure Target or ToT with that |
| 20:25.04 | FISKER_Q | goodnight btw |
| 20:25.12 | ckknight | Mikma: I know |
| 20:28.05 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31287 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - don't update targettarget* on PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED, as that's determined by lagtime. |
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| 20:29.08 | Industrial | Mikma: i also cant find and instance of slash or option (case insensitive) in all the files |
| 20:29.24 | Industrial | Mikma: i got it from the forum post so its the right one |
| 20:29.26 | Mikma | Industrial: the 2.0 version has only FuBar plugin |
| 20:29.55 | Industrial | so it should have an options table |
| 20:31.25 | Industrial | ElkBuffBars:RegisterChatCommand({"/ebbs"}, AO_allopts) |
| 20:31.29 | Industrial | asdf :P |
| 20:31.48 | Mikma | lol |
| 20:32.44 | Chompers | looks like ck is hard at work on pitbull |
| 20:32.49 | Ominous | wee, thanks ckknight: got auras and targettarget working as needed again :D |
| 20:32.52 | ckknight | fun note, Industrial, ElkBuffBars:RegisterChatCommand("/ebbs", AO_allopts) would work as well |
| 20:32.59 | Chompers | looking forward to seeing what it becomes after a few weeks |
| 20:33.09 | ckknight | the table isn't needed anymore |
| 20:33.35 | Industrial | ckknight: but i'd rather have {'/elkbuffbars','/ebbs'} |
| 20:33.52 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:34.37 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 20:34.46 | Ominous | yea ckk, i thought u were going mad when i updated pitbull and not tablet and ace2 as they arnt svn and the aceconsole commands wernt in table and the tablet frame was a string :P |
| 20:34.57 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/ebb.jpg |
| 20:35.07 | ckknight | Ominous: hehe. |
| 20:35.20 | kergoth | ckknight: is the order of execution of the functions in the layout table defined? i.e. if i hide a frame in one and act based on it being hidden in another, is that defined or unreliable? its no big deal to make the decision in both based on the same condition and avoid the issue, but i was curious |
| 20:35.23 | ckknight | Ominous: yea, I added some funky stuff to my libs when making PitBull |
| 20:35.33 | ckknight | kergoth: completely unreliable |
| 20:35.38 | kergoth | okay, thats what i figured |
| 20:35.44 | Industrial | also |
| 20:35.45 | Industrial | http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3711/wowscrnshot032907223430xy0.jpg |
| 20:35.49 | Industrial | *whine* |
| 20:37.12 | Ominous | ckknight: just working scale and combo points now and all i need is ther :D |
| 20:37.24 | ckknight | someone should do combo points |
| 20:37.32 | ckknight | I don't play a rogue, so it'd be funky for me. |
| 20:37.41 | ckknight | actually, I know how to do it extremely easily. |
| 20:37.51 | Ominous | ohh scale does work |
| 20:38.00 | kergoth | it does |
| 20:38.53 | kergoth | ckknight: i've noticed that hte layout functions can be called multiple times in normal usage, i.e. when untargeting and switching targets, since the unitframes show/hide. so we shouldnt, say, do a SetHeight to half the previous height, or itll keep shrinking ;) |
| 20:38.56 | Ominous | ckknight: i could possiblly have a pl;ay if u want me to |
| 20:39.20 | Ominous | with combo points |
| 20:39.22 | ckknight | kergoth: yea, I don't recommend doing that |
| 20:39.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:39.44 | kergoth | okay, i'll hardcode the height for the targettarget with no manabar for now, until i can access the user configurable unitframe height parameter in pitbull |
| 20:39.55 | ckknight | right. |
| 20:39.58 | ckknight | which I'm working on |
| 20:40.02 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:40.03 | kergoth | cool |
| 20:40.07 | Ominous | kergoth: |
| 20:40.28 | Ominous | oh, nvm |
| 20:40.54 | Ominous | sigh ckk: i really should wait :P, just got a working targettarget with no mana bar and proper height working |
| 20:41.02 | Industrial | where is Gratuity-2.0 located? |
| 20:41.34 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:41.34 | Industrial | if any cause ElkBuffBars has it missing |
| 20:41.34 | kergoth | Ominous: it sounds like our layouts are quite similar :P |
| 20:41.36 | Ominous | heh, :D |
| 20:41.51 | Ominous | do u like ur auras on right of target |
| 20:42.07 | Ominous | and player - target - target target at the bottom center of screen |
| 20:42.36 | Industrial | .. anyone? |
| 20:42.49 | Ominous | svn |
| 20:42.54 | Arrowmaster | gratuity-2.0 is in gratuitylib |
| 20:42.58 | Ominous | GratuityLib |
| 20:42.58 | Industrial | ~lart Ominous |
| 20:42.58 | purl | smacks Ominous up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 20:43.06 | kergoth | hehe, nah. i like.. http://gallery.kergoth.com/wow/pitbull_oddauras?full=1 .. the positioning is off there, but thats how i like it. player a bit below center, target above it, targettarget to the right of that |
| 20:43.15 | kergoth | need to hide the player auras too, dont need that with buffalo |
| 20:43.40 | Ominous | thats easy now kergoth |
| 20:43.45 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:44.01 | Arrowmaster | is that pitbull? |
| 20:44.05 | Ominous | http://ace.pastey.net/9673 |
| 20:44.38 | rubik | whoa |
| 20:44.43 | rubik | first ever pitbull screenie? |
| 20:44.53 | kergoth | http://ace.pastey.net/9674 is my current layout |
| 20:45.02 | xyu | what rez are you running at? |
| 20:45.02 | CIA-11 | 03mikma * r31288 10ElkBuffBars/ (ElkBuffBars.toc Libs/): ElkBuffBars: Attempt to add Gratuity-2.0 in externals :) |
| 20:45.03 | kergoth | heh, i'll take a sshot without a glitch :P |
| 20:45.14 | Mikma | Industrial: test that one :P |
| 20:45.24 | Industrial | Mikma: ta |
| 20:45.29 | Ominous | kergoth: that bug is annoyin :P |
| 20:45.39 | rubik | ckknight: you color player health frame red on aggro by default? |
| 20:46.07 | ckknight | rubik: PitBull_Banzai |
| 20:46.16 | rubik | nice |
| 20:46.55 | Chompers | sooo |
| 20:47.04 | Chompers | about to take on the shade of aran, any tips? |
| 20:47.11 | kergoth | pitbull's grown on me quickly |
| 20:47.13 | Antiarc|Work | Don't move during flame wreath |
| 20:47.19 | Industrial | Mikma: tanks works fine |
| 20:47.20 | Antiarc|Work | Learn to transition to the elementals at 40% |
| 20:47.21 | Antiarc|Work | That's about it |
| 20:47.25 | Cowboy__ | ckknight: thanks for the help yesterday btw |
| 20:47.36 | kergoth | course, anything i can easily and quickly hack to my liking tends to grow on me quickly :P |
| 20:47.40 | Chompers | as a tank, should i go dual wield, seeing as hes not really tankable? |
| 20:47.44 | chutwig | Chompers: have you got a warlock in the group |
| 20:47.45 | chutwig | yeah |
| 20:47.46 | xyu | kergoth: what minimap skin is that? |
| 20:47.47 | Cowboy__ | i finished my silly little addon and put it up |
| 20:47.47 | Ominous | i like pitbull as there are no options atm just as i like FB2, cba to play so just mess about setting up addons |
| 20:47.53 | Mikma | Industrial: goodie :) |
| 20:47.53 | Chompers | we have a lock, yeah |
| 20:47.55 | Chompers | no mage though |
| 20:47.56 | chutwig | max dps, no worries about aggro |
| 20:47.58 | chutwig | that's okay |
| 20:48.00 | chutwig | few rogues? |
| 20:48.07 | Chompers | none :O |
| 20:48.11 | chutwig | you're in for a fun time |
| 20:48.27 | Chompers | 2 warriors |
| 20:48.29 | Chompers | both prot spec |
| 20:48.32 | chutwig | no other spell interrupts? |
| 20:48.38 | chutwig | than pummel/bash? |
| 20:48.41 | Chompers | yup |
| 20:48.46 | Chompers | ill be on flame, hes on frost |
| 20:48.46 | chutwig | uh huh |
| 20:48.55 | chutwig | have the warlock use the felhunter to spell lock on arcane as well |
| 20:49.03 | Ominous | kergoth what damage meter is that |
| 20:49.08 | chutwig | make sure it's set to stay so that it doesn't run around during flame wreath |
| 20:49.22 | Arrowmaster | its swstats |
| 20:49.22 | chutwig | at 40% have him banish one, fear another, try to howl as many of the rest as possible |
| 20:49.26 | xyu | Ominous: swstats |
| 20:49.31 | chutwig | and other than that just ignore the elementals if you can until they despawn |
| 20:50.34 | Chompers | should the fel hunter be on auto? |
| 20:50.38 | chutwig | no |
| 20:50.39 | Chompers | for spelllock |
| 20:50.47 | chutwig | the warlock should have cast bars out and be watching for arcane missiles |
| 20:50.54 | Industrial | Mikma: but im back to CT-Buffmod cause this is WAY too big for my taste :> |
| 20:51.01 | chutwig | you need to have a good warlock for this |
| 20:51.01 | Chompers | doesnt he go into melee mode though? |
| 20:51.09 | chutwig | not if he's on passive |
| 20:51.12 | Mikma | Industrial: size them properly? |
| 20:51.24 | Industrial | Mikma: code/functionality size |
| 20:51.30 | chutwig | the felhunter shouldn't be attacking aran |
| 20:51.34 | Mikma | Industrial: oh, right |
| 20:51.45 | chutwig | if you have doubts about the skill of your warlock, then this is not a good fight to test him on |
| 20:52.24 | FryGuy- | are there any other aced spell-timer type mods besides chronometer? |
| 20:52.24 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31289 10PitBull/ (ComboPoints/ ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua PitBull.toc): PitBull - add ComboPoints module |
| 20:52.33 | ckknight | plztest |
| 20:52.39 | ckknight | and/or hack |
| 20:52.46 | Ominous | ok |
| 20:52.52 | FryGuy- | so pitbull is just a different thing besides aguf? :p |
| 20:52.58 | ckknight | very different |
| 20:53.06 | ckknight | they look kinda the same, though |
| 20:53.15 | FryGuy- | hmm |
| 20:53.23 | Chompers | hrm |
| 20:53.26 | FryGuy- | is it as efficient as aguf? :p |
| 20:53.27 | Chompers | total wipe |
| 20:53.36 | Chompers | lock died after 5 seconds :p |
| 20:53.50 | Arrowmaster | lol aguf... efficient.... |
| 20:53.51 | Ominous | FryGuy: its way more efficient |
| 20:53.54 | FryGuy- | :@ |
| 20:54.15 | FryGuy- | hmm, my sheeper mod probably won't work with it though |
| 20:54.27 | ckknight | totally different API |
| 20:54.42 | FryGuy- | well, all it does is attach to the /focus frame |
| 20:54.45 | Ominous | what is a bucket event? |
| 20:54.55 | FryGuy- | bucket event is like WM_PAINT in windows |
| 20:55.13 | FryGuy- | well, sort of |
| 20:55.33 | FryGuy- | it only sends 1 event, instead of 10 in a row |
| 20:55.34 | ckknight | Ominous: say you have a bunch of events |
| 20:55.36 | FryGuy- | if there's a bunch |
| 20:55.41 | ckknight | put em all in a bucket |
| 20:55.49 | ckknight | and then send the bucket to its destination |
| 20:55.52 | FryGuy- | step 1: open the bucket |
| 20:56.02 | FryGuy- | step 2: put your event in the bucket |
| 20:56.08 | FryGuy- | step 3: make your addon open the bucket |
| 20:56.12 | Industrial | ckknight: is there a way to scale and remove the highlight texture? (yet :D?) |
| 20:56.24 | ckknight | Industrial: mess with it in the layout thing. |
| 20:56.40 | ckknight | highlight = function(unit, frame) frame.highlight:SetPoint(...) end |
| 20:56.44 | ckknight | tada. |
| 20:57.10 | Chompers | ah well, looks like we're calling it a night |
| 20:57.16 | Chompers | aran tomorrow i think :D |
| 20:57.19 | Industrial | ah. |
| 20:57.51 | Chompers | hopefully by tomorrow people will actually read some tactics and know what the hells going on |
| 20:58.18 | Chompers | "blizzard...whats that?" |
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| 20:58.36 | kergoth | xyu: that's mikma's minimap skin. i just added it to my local copy of simpleminimap |
| 20:59.24 | Ominous | ckknight: |
| 20:59.27 | Ominous | problems |
| 20:59.33 | Ominous | well it works |
| 20:59.35 | ckknight | ur dum |
| 20:59.38 | ckknight | that's all. |
| 20:59.40 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:59.44 | ckknight | seriously, spit it out. |
| 20:59.55 | Ominous | but if the lvl.. class is a long one such as humanoid/elemental its abit squahsed |
| 21:00.04 | ckknight | that's a layout issue |
| 21:00.09 | ckknight | you handle it. |
| 21:00.24 | ckknight | just move it to where you want |
| 21:00.26 | Ominous | hmm, but there isnt reallly anywhere to put text :P |
| 21:00.27 | ckknight | or whatever |
| 21:00.38 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 21:01.39 | Ominous | also would it be possible to slpit buffs/debuffs |
| 21:02.06 | ckknight | yes |
| 21:02.11 | ckknight | you do it, the Aura module is right there |
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| 21:03.58 | rubik | lol.. i love this addon so far (without having run it).. need something added? YOU config it! :P |
| 21:03.59 | rubik | (not being sarcastic.. i think it's great) |
| 21:03.59 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r31290 10PitBull_Portrait/: PitBull_Portrait: Folder. Because I'm still too lazy to get autoprops working. |
| 21:04.01 | ckknight | Kemayo: fun |
| 21:04.05 | ag` | ckknight: all your secure raid header are belong to us |
| 21:04.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: lazy ass. :P |
| 21:04.14 | ckknight | ag`: hrm? |
| 21:04.27 | *** part/#wowace Anea (n=anea@a62-251-8-41.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 21:04.51 | ag` | I mean, a secure raid header module would be nice |
| 21:05.53 | ckknight | I haven't done grouping yet |
| 21:05.53 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: Is it at all possible to change the size of the overall unit frame within a layout? Also, is it possible to 'remove' a particular sub-frame from a layout (say, mana bar or such). Apologies if you've already been bugged. |
| 21:05.57 | ckknight | or looked into raid headers at all. |
| 21:06.04 | ag` | Yeah I know |
| 21:06.07 | CIA-11 | 03shieldb * r31291 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Incubator.toc Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua): Incubator: Added serpentshrine cavern trash (drycode) |
| 21:06.14 | ag` | it's easy though, you will figure it out when you got the time |
| 21:06.25 | Gnarfoz | my fubar is truncated at some point |
| 21:06.27 | Ominous | ckknight: in order to do it would i have to split the aura module into a buff/debuff one? |
| 21:06.29 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: you can manually, but not through the dewdrop yet. You can remove a frame by hiding it. |
| 21:06.38 | Gnarfoz | after I changed from fullscreen 1600x1200 to windowed 1280x1024 |
| 21:06.45 | Gnarfoz | anyone know what to do? :D |
| 21:06.51 | ckknight | Ominous: no, you'd just make a buffFrame and debuffFrame instead of a single auraFrame |
| 21:06.53 | ckknight | Ominous: I'd guess |
| 21:06.58 | yacoob | change ba^W^Wno idea |
| 21:06.59 | yacoob | 8) |
| 21:07.17 | ckknight | but there should be the possibility for both, I'd say. I haven't done any per-module configuration work yet, which is what I was waiting for |
| 21:07.32 | Nickenyfiken | what is DPSC? |
| 21:07.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: hm, okay, thats what I was doing, but I -think- I saw some oddities with trying to hide the aura frame |
| 21:07.41 | NightHawkTheSane | I didn't test it much, as it was really late and I was tired. |
| 21:07.53 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: I fixed it |
| 21:08.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: ah, neat. |
| 21:08.02 | ckknight | like an hour ag |
| 21:08.03 | ckknight | o |
| 21:08.10 | Gnarfoz | weird |
| 21:08.17 | Gnarfoz | if I create a new fubar panel, it is full width |
| 21:08.33 | Nickenyfiken | no on know? |
| 21:08.38 | Nickenyfiken | is it lik DPS Crit or something? |
| 21:09.10 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r31292 10PitBull_Portrait/ (PitBull_Portrait.toc Portrait.lua): PitBull_Portrait: Initial commit, totally drycoded. (luac -p says there are no syntax errors, at least.) |
| 21:10.20 | Fin | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 21:10.43 | purl | sylvanaar is currently on #wowace (8h 23m 13s). Has said a total of 8 messages. Is idling for 4h 13m 10s, last said: 'mine worked last night'. |
| 21:11.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Nickenyfiken: I -think- It's dps, accounting for crits. not sure, though |
| 21:11.54 | NightHawkTheSane | actually. |
| 21:12.21 | NightHawkTheSane | that cant be right, as I think the DPSC for my shocks is lower than the DPS. so I'd imagine it's DPS over the cooldown of the spell |
| 21:12.46 | Kemayo | Signs that I like portraits in my unitframes include: that I'm the person who implements them in new UF mods that show up on SVN. |
| 21:13.45 | FryGuy- | hmm, so there's like 0 config for pitbull then |
| 21:14.28 | Kemayo | The core has some config options now, but modules aren't doing much in that way yet, insofar as I can tell. |
| 21:15.35 | Kemayo | (I didn't put any config options into that one I just did, because I wanted to wait until examples of the canonical approach appear.) |
| 21:16.02 | FryGuy- | well it seems every unit frame for a player starts in the middle of the screen :p |
| 21:16.09 | kergoth | damnit |
| 21:16.09 | kergoth | wtf |
| 21:16.20 | kergoth | i have keys bound to bartender2 bar 5 |
| 21:16.27 | kergoth | i have bar1 set to page to 5 when shift is down |
| 21:16.30 | Kemayo | Oh, that. Yes, no default layout. |
| 21:16.33 | kergoth | yet the shift+ bindings on bar5 arent working |
| 21:16.53 | shieldb | kergoth, that sounds right |
| 21:17.28 | shieldb | I do something like that, and I've got bar1 button 1-12 bound to 1 through = |
| 21:17.39 | ZealotOnAStick | nymbia: edited the PT3bar thread topic. Hope it suffices. |
| 21:18.12 | shieldb | shift changes the page, so if shift goes to page 2 and I hit 5, I'm hitting button 5 on bar 1 |
| 21:18.18 | shieldb | just a different page because shift changed the page |
| 21:18.36 | ckknight | kergoth: Idea, lemme run it past you |
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| 21:18.55 | ckknight | kergoth: have it so that if you change UIScale, the unit frames don't change size |
| 21:19.47 | Industrial | ckknight: one tip though; To remove "-Ace2-" from the toc, because it adds to the "ACE" phenomenon where people think that anything tagged with 'Ace2' is better by default. Wich, in turn, sparks replies like this from amongst people me. Im getting a bit tired of it :P |
| 21:20.25 | Antiarc|Work | I'm going to start adding "-Ace20000-" to my TOCs |
| 21:20.27 | ckknight | and I in turn am getting kinda tired of you bringing that up, frankly, I'm fine with it. You're free to have your own opinions about it |
| 21:20.31 | Antiarc|Work | Because that must mean it's SUPER AWESOME. |
| 21:20.50 | NightHawkTheSane | -Ace2001:A WoW Odyssy!- |
| 21:21.19 | ckknight | lol, NightHawkTheSane |
| 21:21.23 | Industrial | well i dunno man, the addons community isnt a market so monopolizing isnt needed :| |
| 21:21.29 | Industrial | but lets not get into that |
| 21:21.43 | FISKER_Q | i has a cock |
| 21:21.54 | ag` | yes, in your ear Feldia |
| 21:21.55 | ag` | argh |
| 21:21.57 | ag` | FISKER_Q: |
| 21:22.04 | ag` | ok, I'll just go back in my hole now. |
| 21:22.07 | ckknight | I'm quite fine with people knowing what framework I used to make it |
| 21:22.19 | FISKER_Q | i'm not abstinent ag` |
| 21:22.20 | FISKER_Q | n00b |
| 21:24.51 | FISKER_Q | If it ain't ace2 it isn't worth downloading |
| 21:24.54 | FISKER_Q | unless it's ace3e |
| 21:24.56 | FISKER_Q | ace3* |
| 21:25.54 | Ominous | ckknight: great, no errors but no frame :P |
| 21:27.08 | ckknight | Ominous: ? |
| 21:27.19 | Ominous | for the splitting buffs and debuffs |
| 21:28.37 | kergoth | shieldb: ahh right, that was it... i didnt realize :) |
| 21:29.33 | shieldb | yeah that screwed me up for a bit when I went from four bars using shift/alt/ctrl/no modifier to using one bar that changed pages when shift/alt/ctrl was held down |
| 21:29.44 | ckknight | Ominous: do you do a setpoint on the buffFrame/debuffFrame? |
| 21:30.19 | Ominous | yea |
| 21:30.22 | shieldb | the other thing I ran into was shift getting set up as a selfcast hotkey due to some wonky defaults |
| 21:30.36 | Ominous | the new buff frame works |
| 21:31.20 | ckknight | yay |
| 21:32.06 | Ominous | got it i think |
| 21:32.12 | Stephmw | anyone got Sorata's aUF_UnitCreator loading without error? |
| 21:32.50 | Ominous | woot |
| 21:32.59 | Industrial | After some fiddling: http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9302/wowscrnshot032907233209fr7.jpg |
| 21:33.05 | ag` | a lot in aguf was changed recently, it probably needs updating |
| 21:33.27 | Stephmw | ah, ok, I'll update |
| 21:33.28 | Industrial | ckknight: is there any 'correct' way for adjusting the frame width/height? |
| 21:33.39 | Industrial | i stuck it in the health function atm |
| 21:33.43 | Ominous | ckknight: shall i just commit it? |
| 21:33.59 | ckknight | Ominous: make a diff and lemme see |
| 21:34.05 | Ominous | ok |
| 21:34.46 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31293 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: |
| 21:34.46 | CIA-11 | PitBull - bugfixes to layout changing. |
| 21:34.46 | CIA-11 | - added scale/width options |
| 21:34.47 | CIA-11 | - added .db to frames, which does nothing currently. |
| 21:35.43 | CIA-11 | 03airochen * r31294 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: update zhTW |
| 21:36.06 | nymbia | ckknight: .db to frames? i'm intrigued. |
| 21:36.20 | ckknight | database |
| 21:36.22 | Kemayo | ckknight: If my portrait module (a) works and (b) it's something you actually want in core, feel free to grab it. |
| 21:36.25 | ckknight | based on group |
| 21:36.32 | ckknight | Kemayo: that's the plan |
| 21:36.36 | nymbia | ah |
| 21:36.49 | shieldb | kergoth, curious - in your screenshot you posted a bit ago, is that bt3 + cycircled you're using? |
| 21:38.23 | Industrial | Hm, any idea on how i would get those debuffs on the right positioned next to the most right buff? http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/4287/wowscrnshot032907233658zd7.jpg |
| 21:38.32 | Ominous | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/9680 |
| 21:39.07 | Ominous | and ofc i have modifyed layout file too |
| 21:39.12 | Bibi`ouF | omg |
| 21:39.13 | Bibi`ouF | vashj down. |
| 21:39.34 | Antiarc|Work | Nice, who got her? |
| 21:39.39 | Industrial | Ominous: oh that would work for me |
| 21:39.47 | shieldb | I would guess nihilum |
| 21:39.53 | Bibi`ouF | yup |
| 21:40.02 | Ominous | Industrial: what would |
| 21:40.05 | shieldb | link? |
| 21:40.14 | ckknight | Industrial: yep |
| 21:40.31 | ckknight | the Aura module needs to be fundamentally changed |
| 21:40.36 | ckknight | to have proper options and whatnot |
| 21:40.56 | Industrial | Ominous: splitting the buffs like that, i know the width like that :) |
| 21:41.02 | Ominous | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/9681 |
| 21:43.03 | kergoth | shieldb: yup |
| 21:43.43 | shieldb | hmmm |
| 21:44.02 | shieldb | so if I had a 60 shaman who got deleted off of my account about a year ago, think it has a chance at getting restored? |
| 21:44.23 | ckknight | shieldb: probably, actually |
| 21:44.40 | shieldb | I don't care about gear and such but I'm thinking that could be handy for farming and tradeskills ;) |
| 21:45.15 | Industrial | shieldb: bastard |
| 21:45.21 | kergoth | i hadnt played my shaman in like 2 years, so i just made him my alchemist as well as my leatherworker, and made my rogue the farmer of all of his mats |
| 21:45.25 | kergoth | works pretty well |
| 21:45.28 | Ominous | ckknight: what do u think? |
| 21:45.35 | ckknight | Ominous: I'll wait. |
| 21:45.47 | Ominous | bah, k |
| 21:47.03 | Antiarc|Work | Holy fuck almighty. |
| 21:47.09 | Antiarc|Work | I just got a recruitment email from NCSoft. |
| 21:47.12 | Antiarc|Work | O_____________O |
| 21:47.33 | renchap | thats about your armory website ? |
| 21:47.36 | Antiarc|Work | Yes. |
| 21:47.43 | renchap | haha :) |
| 21:47.45 | Antiarc|Work | I've used more profanity today than I have in the past 10 years. |
| 21:47.48 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 21:47.56 | pastamancer | yeah, but NCSoft |
| 21:47.59 | Antiarc|Work | But...holy damn on a rocket to jupiter. |
| 21:48.11 | Antiarc|Work | I've always wanted to work in the game industry. |
| 21:48.19 | renchap | wait the blizzard mail |
| 21:49.10 | Radon | funkeh, rabbit who messed up with that bigwigs morogrim module? :P There was tidal_message and tidal_trigger added to deDE localization (with english values) but not to enUS one and therefore giving acelocale error message ;) |
| 21:50.16 | Antiarc|Work | If I get an email from Blizzard, just boot me from the channel because I will have keeled over from a heart attack. |
| 21:50.45 | renchap | i already got a mail from blizzard 2 years ago |
| 21:51.10 | renchap | because of some dirty stuff i made with some illegal servers ^^ |
| 21:51.29 | shieldb | haha |
| 21:51.30 | Antiarc|Work | Heh |
| 21:51.51 | shieldb | Actually I've gotten mail from NCSoft before come to think of it |
| 21:52.20 | shieldb | but it was because having a ten foot tall robot superhero named Masturbatrix in city of heroes wasn't exactly in line with the ToS |
| 21:52.49 | renchap | nice name |
| 21:53.05 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:53.11 | shieldb | I only ever got comments like that when I was playing, but it must have upset someone |
| 21:53.50 | Ominous | nn all |
| 21:53.50 | shieldb | having a villian named "The Sex Offender" who looked like a stereotypical pimp didn't go over well, either |
| 21:54.08 | shieldb | the man was keeping me down and so forth |
| 21:54.34 | Stephmw | ag`: hmmm, ok, no more errors after updating it |
| 21:55.32 | Stephmw | .. until I try running the script |
| 21:57.29 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r31295 10BigWigs/SC/Morogrim.lua: BigWigs: Morogrim: Bugfix. |
| 21:57.36 | Necrathex | vashj down? :o |
| 21:57.41 | Amadeo | kergoth: I need a good Mutilate PvP spec! |
| 21:57.42 | vhaarr | yes |
| 21:57.43 | Necrathex | link plx :p |
| 21:58.12 | Amadeo | or any other Rogues.. :) |
| 21:58.27 | kergoth | i dont pvp :) |
| 21:58.49 | Amadeo | damn you! |
| 22:00.14 | Stephmw | ag`: ok, after making the forum changes to ag_Defaults I get the party-target frames in the centre of the screen |
| 22:00.43 | Amadeo | I'll come up with something and a sec and have you look over it ;) |
| 22:01.07 | Bibi`ouF | btw, vashj loots here : http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=67.0 |
| 22:01.10 | shieldb | Amadeo, I think I was using something like this when I was pvping last: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=i0eboEMkVzEohZE0cc |
| 22:01.20 | Ozzwald | coding flash all day makes working on mods suck |
| 22:01.43 | Ozzwald | work drains all the desire outta me to learn a new language, lol |
| 22:01.43 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:01.54 | Necrathex | Bibi`ouF: ty |
| 22:03.20 | shieldb | wow, that's kind of disappointing for vashj |
| 22:03.25 | shieldb | only 4 or 5 vials? |
| 22:04.03 | nymbia | they'll kill her 5 times by the time they kill kael |
| 22:04.29 | shieldb | I don't doubt that |
| 22:05.11 | shieldb | but to me that'd be like saying you have to kill ragnaros for more then a month before you're allowed to zone into BWL |
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| 22:05.49 | FryGuy- | wow pitbull is pretty messed up |
| 22:06.51 | Antiarc|Work | shieldb: It's more like having to kill drakk a bunch of times before you can zone into Ony |
| 22:07.11 | FryGuy- | it' |
| 22:07.24 | FryGuy- | it's using buff icons as the texture backgrounds for hp/mana and the frame :/ |
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| 22:07.35 | shieldb | Antiarc|Work, not so much anymore since the blood doesn't drop in limited quantity since 1.8 or so |
| 22:07.48 | ckknight | FryGuy-: bug |
| 22:07.49 | Antiarc|Work | shieldb: I know, but it used to be that way. |
| 22:08.02 | ckknight | FryGuy-: can you figure out how to reproduce it? |
| 22:11.36 | shieldb | Antiarc|Work, I guess I'd rather see it be a soft requirement (i.e. you'll need enough of your folks geared from SSC/TK25 from clearing them repeatedly) rather then it being a hard requirement like with the vials |
| 22:11.53 | kergoth | FryGuy-: yea we've all encountered that bug i think, itd be nice to nail it down |
| 22:12.40 | cncfanatics | yo ppl :) |
| 22:13.50 | kergoth | hmm |
| 22:15.49 | ZealotOnAStick | If Vashj was downed by Nihilum, why doesn't their site mention it? |
| 22:15.49 | ilifin | because they are killing her again |
| 22:15.52 | ilifin | part 4 of her she soulstones or some whack |
| 22:15.59 | ilifin | http://www.silence-guild.eu/images/vashj.jpg <- |
| 22:16.07 | Lysithea | They got loot, she respawned |
| 22:16.12 | Lysithea | they're killing her again |
| 22:16.25 | Lysithea | http://www.nihilum.co.uk/image/1473/ http://www.nihilum.co.uk/image/1472/ |
| 22:16.38 | Lysithea | bah |
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| 22:16.40 | Lysithea | page down :) |
| 22:17.00 | Lysithea | http://www.nihilum.co.uk/albums/6/62/Blizzard%2Bat%2Btheir%2Bbest.JPG works too |
| 22:17.37 | deltron | oh man |
| 22:17.44 | deltron | nihilum got her down before dnt lol |
| 22:17.49 | deltron | for the horde! |
| 22:18.10 | Lysithea | gg blizzcoding, lots of nvortexes and loot for them I guess |
| 22:18.18 | shieldb | as I understand it nihilum usually beats DnT to the punch on stuff |
| 22:18.23 | Lysithea | if it would've been me I'd farm her all night |
| 22:19.08 | deltron | DnT got her to 3% the other day heh |
| 22:19.27 | kergoth | ckknight: i notice you dont call updatelayout when doing a change scale.. you should, then layouts that affect scale can base theirs on the overall scale, and fix the scale of their frame after the change. |
| 22:20.01 | deltron | so vashj respawned on nihilum though eh? |
| 22:20.18 | vhaarr | Nihilum had her on 3% before DnT, though. |
| 22:20.27 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r31296 10BigWigs/Outland/Maulgar.lua: |
| 22:20.27 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: Outland/Maulgar: |
| 22:20.27 | CIA-11 | - add 10 second estimated arcing smash |
| 22:20.57 | deltron | oh it was nihilum n/m |
| 22:21.28 | ckknight | kergoth: okay. |
| 22:22.24 | kergoth | it wouldnt be bad to let the user change the frame height.. the layout can always adjust it based on the overall height setting if they yank child frames off the unitframe |
| 22:22.28 | kergoth | imo |
| 22:23.00 | ckknight | yea, I suppose so. |
| 22:23.14 | ckknight | working on grouping right now |
| 22:23.29 | ckknight | adding :IterateUnitFramesByGroup("group") |
| 22:23.40 | kergoth | ah, for party frames and such? |
| 22:23.44 | ckknight | yep. |
| 22:23.46 | kergoth | cool |
| 22:23.56 | ckknight | basically, right now, the group is defined as the unit without numbers |
| 22:24.07 | ckknight | raid40 => raid, party1 => party, player => player |
| 22:24.45 | kergoth | okay, what about putting pet with player and such? can the layout add a frame into an existing group, like pet into player, as well as setpointing it, or will that not be worth bothering with? |
| 22:25.37 | kergoth | hehe, pitbull_portrait actually works with minor alterations. its floating out in the air to the left of the frame |
| 22:25.49 | ckknight | pet's not with player for a reason |
| 22:25.53 | ckknight | group will determine settings |
| 22:25.59 | ckknight | not necessarily position |
| 22:26.06 | ckknight | cause, I mean, I can position pet by player |
| 22:26.08 | ckknight | no problem there |
| 22:26.12 | ilifin | pets are Rebellious, damn hunters forgetting to feed the mod coders |
| 22:26.18 | kergoth | setpoint there and you're done |
| 22:26.32 | kergoth | what sorts of settings? frame size/scale/etc? |
| 22:26.35 | ckknight | but you might not want to deal with having a mana bar for your pet |
| 22:26.38 | ckknight | yea, kergoth |
| 22:26.42 | kergoth | okay, that makes sense then |
| 22:26.56 | topp | Antiarc so how much have u made from the ads on ur armory page? :p |
| 22:27.50 | topp | sigh stupid nick stuff |
| 22:28.02 | Antiarc|Work | About $200, actually. Two days ago it spiked to $63. o.0 |
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| 22:28.07 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31297 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: |
| 22:28.07 | CIA-11 | PitBull - added :IterateFramesByGroup("group"). |
| 22:28.07 | CIA-11 | groups right now are the unit without any numbers, e.g. raid40 => raid, party1 => party, player => player. |
| 22:28.07 | CIA-11 | - removed the blanks table, as it's unneeded with the allFrames table. |
| 22:28.07 | CIA-11 | - made frame.db based on group. (still does nothing, though) |
| 22:28.08 | CIA-11 | - added frame.group |
| 22:28.11 | Amadeo | Let's just say he's about to make Bill Gates #2 |
| 22:28.28 | Antiarc|Work | I'm really hoping that the bandwidth bill doesn't end up being crazy. |
| 22:28.44 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31298 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - added unit and group to the ignore for the layout handler. |
| 22:28.49 | Groll | Antiarc|Work hehe i guess it uses quite a lot :P but u made a lot? |
| 22:29.07 | Groll | also it seems it times out for eu all the time :( |
| 22:29.09 | Antiarc|Work | Enough to cover the bill, I hope. |
| 22:29.15 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, the EU armory is seriously flaky |
| 22:29.27 | Groll | ok so it's just pure luck if i get a result? |
| 22:29.33 | Antiarc|Work | Mostly, yes :P |
| 22:29.36 | Antiarc|Work | Check if the EU armory is up |
| 22:29.41 | Antiarc|Work | If it is, my tool will probably work |
| 22:29.44 | Groll | well it's bugged :P |
| 22:29.54 | Groll | i think |
| 22:30.25 | Groll | should be off peak hours now aswell |
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| 22:31.09 | Groll | ok it is up but it's up and down kinda it seems |
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| 22:32.42 | kergoth | ckknight: i was going to modify my layout to set default frame positions if its x/y arent in the pitbull db, will you be providing the PitBull.db.profile.unit as well as the group one, or should i check for them in pitbull's db directly? |
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| 22:34.21 | ckknight | kergoth: I'll be changing it to be PitBull.db.profile.units |
| 22:34.32 | ckknight | currently it's just PitBull.db.profile.player and such |
| 22:34.35 | ckknight | which is icky |
| 22:34.40 | kergoth | ah, yes |
| 22:37.06 | art3mis | ckk the frames are named PitBullplayer right? |
| 22:37.10 | art3mis | etc |
| 22:37.22 | art3mis | need the frame names for extremem unit buttons |
| 22:37.30 | nymbia | nope |
| 22:37.36 | ckknight | no, art3mis |
| 22:37.40 | ckknight | PitBullUnitFrame1 |
| 22:37.59 | ckknight | I recommend just doing PitBull:GetUnitFrame("player") |
| 22:38.07 | art3mis | oh okay thanks |
| 22:38.24 | art3mis | so the generically spawn as needed? |
| 22:38.30 | art3mis | instead of palceholding? |
| 22:38.35 | art3mis | placeholding |
| 22:38.57 | art3mis | the == they |
| 22:40.54 | Amadeo | http://www.rootburn.com/pics/santa.jpg |
| 22:46.24 | kergoth | ckknight: is it yet possible to, as the user, completely toggle a pitbull module? itd be useful, to, say switch to a character or class profile and completely ditch things that char/class doesnt need, across all frames |
| 22:46.43 | ckknight | kergoth: that is the eventual plan. |
| 22:46.53 | ckknight | e.g. only Rogues and Druids need ComboPoints |
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| 22:48.39 | Feldia | pitbull, I assume that's the new name for your unitframes? |
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| 22:52.05 | CIA-11 | 03neuron * r31299 10nQuestLog/modules/SmartVisibility.lua: nQuestLog : Changing auto folding zones options bugging |
| 22:52.08 | JoshBorke | Feldia: yes |
| 22:52.23 | _neuron_ | Mikma, r31299 fixes your problem |
| 22:53.31 | Mikma | Necrathex: blingbling |
| 22:54.08 | NeoTron_ | PERFECT prince attempt... 19% hp left.. and a fricking infernal falls so we can either choose not to be in range or be within aoe range :( with some experience we might have been able to move the MT closer to the infernals and still be in range but alas |
| 22:54.47 | sedatedChipmunk | Mikma: wrong tabcomplete, you moron |
| 22:55.10 | Mikma | i don't give a fuck |
| 22:55.11 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r31300 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: |
| 22:55.11 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: Outland/Magtheridon: |
| 22:55.11 | CIA-11 | - exhaustion is 1:15 it seems |
| 22:55.12 | CIA-11 | - debris on you warning |
| 22:55.12 | CIA-11 | - debris alerts |
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| 22:55.37 | sedatedChipmunk | i do. you suck! |
| 22:55.46 | Mikma | _neuron_: so where is "show nearby quests only"? |
| 22:55.57 | Mikma | obviously, but you spit sedatedChipmunk |
| 22:56.20 | _neuron_ | Mikma, both auto folds should show you only quests in your zone |
| 22:56.46 | Mikma | _neuron_: but i wanna see only the quests that are highlighted |
| 22:57.03 | _neuron_ | I wouldn't do that tbh, highlighting can't be accurate :P |
| 22:57.15 | _neuron_ | it will miss stuff because of quest details not being descriptive enough |
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| 22:58.50 | Kemayo | Yeah -- the autowatching in QuestsFu is pretty comprehensive in terms of what can be extracted from quests, and it's still hit and miss. |
| 22:59.28 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31301 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - added height option. now updates layout on scale change |
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| 23:04.14 | ckknight | don't try that yet |
| 23:04.30 | Antiarc|Work | Hahah |
| 23:05.01 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31302 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - bugfix |
| 23:05.16 | ckknight | alright then |
| 23:05.45 | TheKarn | ck what's pitbull? |
| 23:05.52 | ckknight | TheKarn: my unit frames |
| 23:06.28 | TheKarn | anything neat about them? |
| 23:06.38 | Mikma | well, it works, sorta |
| 23:06.51 | Kemayo | Caption: It was about then that ckknight wished he'd called it "PitBullUF". |
| 23:06.52 | ckknight | TheKarn: modularity, efficiency |
| 23:07.04 | TheKarn | lol |
| 23:07.04 | ckknight | no, Kemayo |
| 23:08.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: that'll take another half dozen or so people asking "what's pitbull" |
| 23:10.35 | rubik | i can't figure out for the life of me why it takes so long from the moment i start wow.exe until i get a login screen.. on my gaming pc.. that has nothing else running.. any ideas? by "so long" i mean like.. ~60 seconds |
| 23:10.41 | nymbia | ~pitbull |
| 23:10.56 | ilifin | same for me rubik, takes quite some time |
| 23:11.21 | ilifin | I was guessing it was since 'mac lol', but seeing as you're a PC user I'm beginning to wonder now :p |
| 23:11.36 | rubik | i can't figure out what it's doing.. hd not spinning/loading files.. dual core cpu not doing jack.. wow.exe sitting there in taskman... |
| 23:11.40 | NightHawkTheSane | rubik: "main() { sleep(60); [rest of WoW Code]; }" |
| 23:11.48 | rubik | srsly.. sth |
| 23:11.51 | rubik | wth* |
| 23:12.06 | JoshBorke | rubik: does it happen every single time or only occasionally? |
| 23:12.26 | TheKarn | are you running vista? |
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| 23:12.42 | rubik | yes, every time.. system is an amd64 3200/2 gb ram/wd sata drive/fully defragged |
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| 23:12.48 | rubik | no, winxp sp2 |
| 23:12.53 | ckknight | JoshBorke: go ahead if you want to |
| 23:13.09 | JoshBorke | ha! i doubt i'll ever even use it :-P |
| 23:13.16 | CIA-11 | 03airochen * r31303 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: fixed zhTW |
| 23:13.24 | JoshBorke | i like wiki entries because they sometimes have pictures |
| 23:13.27 | NightHawkTheSane | defragged? man, i havnt defragged in years |
| 23:13.27 | JoshBorke | and i like to look at pictures |
| 23:13.33 | Kemayo | Hmmm. I wonder why luac -p tells me that I have an unexpected symbol on line 1. |
| 23:13.38 | rubik | once it starts up, it flies (60+ fps at 1600x1200 with a geforce 7800 -- i think?) |
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| 23:13.48 | JoshBorke | rubik: it could be a delay in connecting to the news server |
| 23:13.56 | JoshBorke | rubik: is it wow.exe or launcher.exe that takes a while? |
| 23:13.57 | rubik | hmm.. |
| 23:14.05 | TheKarn | i hate vista |
| 23:14.08 | rubik | i don't use launcher.exe and start wow.exe directly via shortcut |
| 23:14.17 | JoshBorke | Kemayo: because you um, what's the line? |
| 23:14.18 | rubik | maybe i should try via launcher.exe.. good idea |
| 23:14.29 | Kemayo | JoshBorke: It's blank. :P |
| 23:14.42 | JoshBorke | Kemayo: are you compiling the right thing? :_P |
| 23:14.47 | Kemayo | Yup. |
| 23:15.05 | TheKarn | i have a similar system, AMD64 3200+ / 2GB RAM / SATAII HDD (defragged) / 7950GT. i get a grand total of 15fps.. 30 if i'm lucky. |
| 23:15.34 | Kemayo | JoshBorke: You could try it yourself, if you want. Luac -p QuestsFu.lua, if you have it around. :D |
| 23:15.35 | rubik | whoa.. really? at similar res? |
| 23:15.37 | Ozzwald | i'm buliding a new comp when i get my tax return |
| 23:15.43 | Ozzwald | actually looking at new egg right now =P |
| 23:15.51 | TheKarn | no ... at 1280x1024 |
| 23:15.54 | rubik | newegg ftw |
| 23:16.58 | rubik | launcher.exe -> press play = 1 second... login screen shows up 80 seconds (!!!!) later |
| 23:17.30 | rubik | i might just do the tried and true method of resolving weirdness.. aka. reformatting |
| 23:17.42 | ilifin | what you could try |
| 23:17.52 | ilifin | is rename the savedvariables folder and the cache folder |
| 23:17.57 | ilifin | then start |
| 23:18.06 | ilifin | if it pops up instantly, you got your problem |
| 23:18.13 | rubik | can i somehow trace what on earth wow.exe is doing sitting there not using HD/CPU for over a minute? |
| 23:18.25 | rubik | yeah, let me try that |
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| 23:19.42 | rubik | whoa... 15 sec. |
| 23:19.55 | rubik | ilifin == genious |
| 23:20.29 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, so the games parsing the WTF dir on startup? |
| 23:20.37 | NightHawkTheSane | or, probably loading the cache too |
| 23:20.48 | rubik | my cache dir had 8kb worth of crap in it |
| 23:20.51 | Kemayo | ......copying the entire text of my file to a new file resolves the error. |
| 23:21.13 | rubik | gonna try without renaming my SV dir now (50+ mb) |
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| 23:21.40 | Daemona | http://82.94.220.95/t_gta4_trailer1_720p.wmv |
| 23:21.42 | Daemona | o.O |
| 23:21.47 | Kemayo | Ah, there we go. The lua version I have doesn't understand unicode. Apparently. |
| 23:22.27 | Ozzwald | i think this'd do nicely: http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=4363392 |
| 23:22.30 | rubik | ok, so apparently it was my WoW\Cache dir that was causing long startup |
| 23:23.38 | ckknight | Kemayo: lua doesn't have unicode by default, all strings are bitstrings |
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| 23:25.18 | Kemayo | Oh, to be able to persuade random localizers to do so in escaped characters. |
| 23:26.02 | kergoth | anyone know if/where there's a poison vendor in shattrath |
| 23:26.12 | shieldb | yep |
| 23:26.14 | shieldb | near the alchemy lab |
| 23:26.18 | kergoth | ah, cool, thanks |
| 23:26.28 | ilifin | ontop of one of the arokkoa huts |
| 23:26.51 | shieldb | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19049 |
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| 23:51.03 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r31304 10PitBull/ (Layout.lua PitBull.lua): PitBull - messing with db structure, also dewdrop |
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| 23:53.07 | Chompers | hmm |
| 23:56.43 | Chompers | is there a decent ace2 inspect mod out? |
| 23:57.39 | ckknight | well, looks like I have a need for passValue, so it looks like it's getting implemented |
| 23:57.48 | JJSheets | lol |
| 23:57.56 | Gngsk | Chompers, I use Voyeur. It is a lot like the old GoodInspect |
| 23:58.08 | Chompers | ah right, the names familiar |
| 23:58.09 | Chompers | thanks |
| 23:58.09 | JJSheets | ckknight, if you get time... implement a multiline waterfall control. :p |
| 23:58.19 | ckknight | sorry, I don't hack on Waterfall |
| 23:58.31 | JJSheets | bah :) |
| 23:59.39 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r31305 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (Blizz/Blizz.lua QuestsFu.lua): FuBar_QuestsFu: Blizz module: Add options to control individually where the levels will show. Add some disabled=true options for things I want to do before too long. |
