| 00:01.17 | Garoun | it's rather borked on test :) |
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| 00:02.35 | vhaarr | actually AutoBar doesn't lag for me any more, I think Toadkiller did some optimization work on it |
| 00:05.26 | mjc | http://www.splitreason.com/productdetail.php?id=254 |
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| 00:20.55 | CIA-11 | 03jjsheets * r32933 10Expo/ (Expo.toc modules/Profiler.lua): |
| 00:20.55 | CIA-11 | Expo - Added the Profiler Module. This allows you to profile a single function, |
| 00:20.56 | CIA-11 | a table of functions, and thus any AddOn or Ace Class. Results are sortable by |
| 00:20.56 | CIA-11 | time. time per call, memory used, number of calls, and alphabetic order. |
| 00:20.56 | CIA-11 | Profiling can be disabled easily, and disabling the module properly stops |
| 00:20.56 | CIA-11 | profiling everything. |
| 00:21.38 | ckknight | hey JJSheets |
| 00:21.46 | JJSheets | What's up? |
| 00:21.48 | ckknight | does it go into submodules if it's a modulecore? |
| 00:21.54 | ckknight | a la PitBul |
| 00:21.57 | ckknight | PitBull* |
| 00:22.03 | JJSheets | not certain. I'll check tho... :) |
| 00:23.36 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r32934 10BigWigs/Plugins/Comm.lua: BigWigs: Comm: Fix synchronization for 5-mans. |
| 00:24.27 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4870.msg94576#msg94576 |
| 00:24.50 | JJSheets | ckknight, unfortunately no... but I do plan to refine it. |
| 00:24.55 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:25.22 | Arrowmaster | ok performancefu is totally broken for me |
| 00:25.39 | Arrowmaster | not only can i not change the right/left/center setting |
| 00:25.51 | Amadeo | vhaarr: It lags when you click a button for me |
| 00:25.58 | Arrowmaster | but i cant turn on/off the displaying of text |
| 00:26.11 | Amadeo | vhaar: for example, click the mount button a lot while you walk around...watch how you get freeze-ups |
| 00:28.03 | Amadeo | oops, forgot an r :) |
| 00:28.37 | mjc | learn to use tab |
| 00:28.38 | mjc | noob |
| 00:29.20 | Amadeo | I normally do, but for some reason I didn't that time |
| 00:29.33 | Amadeo | and look what happened :( |
| 00:29.34 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r32935 10SpellEventsLib/SpellEvents-1.0/SpellEvents-1.0.lua: .SpellEvents-1.0: Cleanup. |
| 00:30.01 | vhaarr | Amadeo: weird, no lag here |
| 00:30.18 | Amadeo | none at all? even if you click fast? |
| 00:30.38 | vhaarr | yeah if I spamclick it, it lags a lot |
| 00:30.46 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 00:30.48 | Amadeo | that's what I mean |
| 00:30.52 | vhaarr | ah :) |
| 00:30.57 | vhaarr | well I don't normally do that |
| 00:30.59 | Amadeo | In PvP, sometimes you gotta spam click! |
| 00:31.10 | Amadeo | stupid stunlocks and stuff |
| 00:31.11 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:31.19 | Amadeo | "If I can just drink this damn potion" *spam* |
| 00:31.33 | Amadeo | but then your game is like crashing because of AutoBar |
| 00:31.35 | Amadeo | so you die anyway! |
| 00:31.58 | vhaarr | haha |
| 00:32.03 | vhaarr | well I don't pvp now |
| 00:32.32 | Hjalte | vhaarr, synchronization for 5-mans.. Are there any bigwigs modules for 5-mans? |
| 00:33.56 | vhaarr | Hjalte: not in the svn |
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| 00:33.56 | vhaarr | Hjalte: but I know people are working on it |
| 00:33.56 | vhaarr | not any of the regular bw developers though |
| 00:33.56 | vhaarr | which is good! new blood! |
| 00:33.56 | Hjalte | Would be a nice selling-point for me, when i am trying to get more people in my guild to use bigwigs :) |
| 00:34.01 | vhaarr | well you'd better start pumping out those modules, then |
| 00:34.04 | vhaarr | the API is there - goog |
| 00:34.06 | vhaarr | gogo* |
| 00:34.43 | Hjalte | Haha, i know html and *very* basic php ;) |
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| 00:35.05 | JJSheets | btw Hjalte, Expo is useless for most Non-Developers. |
| 00:35.19 | vhaarr | I bet it's not too late for you to learn new tricks |
| 00:35.24 | Amadeo | vhaarr: Any idea what causes that lag, or if it's even possible to fix? |
| 00:35.32 | vhaarr | Amadeo: I don't know the autobar code, so no |
| 00:35.52 | vhaarr | but yeah, obviously it's possible to fix it |
| 00:36.02 | Amadeo | I've tried to tell him about it before, but I don't know if I'm explaining it well enough :P |
| 00:36.09 | vhaarr | he knows about it |
| 00:36.09 | Hjalte | Of course not vhaarr and i would love to learn lua sometime :) |
| 00:36.23 | vhaarr | Hjalte: what's wrong with right now (tm) ? |
| 00:36.32 | vhaarr | got somewhere you need to be? |
| 00:36.35 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 00:36.47 | Hjalte | School, that's what wrong right now. The thing they call homework.. :( |
| 00:36.59 | vhaarr | IRC isn't homework, bou |
| 00:37.01 | vhaarr | boy* |
| 00:37.15 | vhaarr | ;) |
| 00:37.23 | Hjalte | I'm almost done. And I'm not really reading this, just watching commit messages ;) |
| 00:38.00 | Amadeo | so who's reading it now!? |
| 00:38.22 | ckknight | pants! |
| 00:38.26 | vhaarr | I was doing Ring of Blood with my alt today and there was a weird group there; one blood elf paladin with 4 troll mages, all the mages were unguilded and they threw their spells at the exact same time |
| 00:38.37 | vhaarr | and when the paladin moved, they walked behind him |
| 00:38.46 | JJSheets | lol |
| 00:38.55 | vhaarr | it was really funny to see him do the ring of blood :) |
| 00:39.03 | vhaarr | we had to help him with the MS mob, it pwnd all the mages |
| 00:39.14 | mjc | jrj |
| 00:39.14 | mjc | heh |
| 00:39.25 | mjc | one hour with UAC on and I already turned it off. |
| 00:39.36 | Amadeo | Stick it to the man! |
| 00:40.10 | vhaarr | Stickittothemanneurosis? |
| 00:40.29 | Amadeo | isn't that one of [Ammo]'s addons? |
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| 00:40.38 | vhaarr | I like School of Rock, the movie where that is from. |
| 00:41.55 | Amadeo | I never saw it :( |
| 00:42.23 | Bibi`ouF | vhaarr : some people used to do this on Dark Age of Camelot |
| 00:42.35 | Bibi`ouF | the same guy playing a party of 6 casters :p |
| 00:42.45 | Amadeo | haha, I remember that |
| 00:42.51 | Amadeo | didn't Mythic support botting? God I hated them for that |
| 00:43.01 | vhaarr | it was nice, because later on we saw the same gang run into Sethekk Halls :P |
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| 00:43.33 | kaiden | JJSheets, have you noticed infinibar not scaling bars correctly until you click on the bar configuration for each bar after /rl'ing? |
| 00:43.37 | Bibi`ouF | Amadeo : they didn't really support botting |
| 00:43.39 | kaiden | just wanna make sure it's not just me |
| 00:43.42 | kaiden | :P |
| 00:43.43 | Bibi`ouF | they allowed buffbots |
| 00:43.51 | JJSheets | kaiden, no I have not. :) |
| 00:44.01 | Bibi`ouF | but it wasnt really botting since you didn't have to play the character |
| 00:44.21 | kaiden | JJSheets, :( ok it's done it for me non stop through all the versions, after /rl'ing bars will revert to 1.0 until i go into each bar and click bar configuration |
| 00:44.54 | JJSheets | kaiden, have you set the bar scale, or just set the button scales individually? |
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| 00:45.31 | vhaarr | "In the wake of Monday's tragic shootings at Virginia Tech, Fox is taking no chances with its programming. The network made the decision to pull a new episode of Bones from its Wednesday lineup, fearing that the plotline, which centers on the discovery of human remains on a college campus, would strike too close to home." |
| 00:45.36 | vhaarr | "Out of sensitivity to the victims and families touched by this senseless tragedy, we felt the change was appropriate," a Fox spokesperson told E! News. |
| 00:45.45 | vhaarr | ... |
| 00:45.52 | kaiden | JJSheets, i set the bar scale, and all the buttons by default use the bar scale |
| 00:46.13 | JJSheets | okay... could you send me your Saved Variables file? :) |
| 00:46.29 | vhaarr | and yet they don't cancel shows where people get shot, which happens on a regular basis as well |
| 00:46.32 | vhaarr | or car crashes |
| 00:46.57 | JJSheets | vhaarr, nobody said all of us Americans were smart... :p |
| 00:47.06 | vhaarr | indeed, *nobody* said that :P |
| 00:47.16 | Chompers | yay fox |
| 00:47.25 | vhaarr | in fact, I've heard several people say things closer to the opposite :P |
| 00:47.33 | kaiden | JJSheets, certainly |
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| 00:48.05 | JJSheets | kaiden, thanks PM me on the forums, or do an ace.pastey.net. |
| 00:48.28 | JJSheets | vhaarr, I say the opposite almost daily, especially when I realize who is running my country... :/ |
| 00:48.34 | vhaarr | lol |
| 00:48.38 | vhaarr | good man |
| 00:48.49 | vhaarr | (you, not the guy running your country) |
| 00:48.58 | JJSheets | lol was a bout to ask. :) |
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| 00:50.02 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight around? Or if not, anyone know the Paladin suckitude formula for 2.1? |
| 00:50.07 | ckknight | I do |
| 00:50.15 | ckknight | (1-C)/(1-0.5C) |
| 00:50.19 | ckknight | where C = crit% |
| 00:50.23 | ckknight | spellcrit% |
| 00:50.31 | ckknight | at 35%, the ratio = 78.78% |
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| 00:51.29 | vhaarr | anyone seen Grindhouse? |
| 00:52.24 | vhaarr | looks like an interesting movie |
| 00:53.15 | ZealotOnAStick | I have |
| 00:53.48 | ZealotOnAStick | Planet Terror was meh. |
| 00:54.03 | ZealotOnAStick | Wasn't as funny as I think it needed to be. Mainly, it had hot Rose McGowan going for it. |
| 00:54.10 | ZealotOnAStick | The filler was funny shit. |
| 00:54.17 | ZealotOnAStick | and Deathproof was pretty good. |
| 00:54.26 | vhaarr | by the filler, you mean the fake trailers? |
| 00:54.46 | ZealotOnAStick | yeah. |
| 00:54.52 | ZealotOnAStick | Hell, I'd pay to see Machete. |
| 00:55.17 | vhaarr | So it's worth watching Grindhouse, then, goody. |
| 00:55.30 | ZealotOnAStick | matinee pricing, anyway. |
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| 00:58.45 | JJSheets | rofl |
| 00:59.14 | JJSheets | some noob just asked me to group, I politely say no thanks, they say ok, then "fuck you". heheh |
| 00:59.34 | kaiden | the state of the game is becoming a sad thing indeed :( |
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| 01:05.50 | Megalon | :C |
| 01:11.22 | JJSheets | Okay... it's time for me to get some dinner... kaiden, I'll look into your bug in detail afterward. |
| 01:11.26 | JJSheets | adios ya'll |
| 01:12.34 | TecnoBrat | dammit ... the new PTR patch doesnt include new patch nots |
| 01:12.36 | TecnoBrat | notes* |
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| 01:14.34 | nymbia | usually its just bugfixes |
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| 01:15.46 | Megalon | i hope they fix devastate |
| 01:15.48 | Sole | hey guys |
| 01:16.10 | Sole | is there a fairly easy way to detect whether a user is on the US servers or the EU servers and the battlegroup of that player? |
| 01:17.23 | Garoun | nymbia is pt3bar eventually meant as an alternative for autobar |
| 01:17.42 | vhaarr | Sole: Yes, you can check the realmList cvar. |
| 01:18.00 | vhaarr | Sole: And I believe Tourist-2.0 has some battlegroup functions. |
| 01:18.14 | Sole | vhaarr: thanks :) |
| 01:18.19 | nymbia | Garoun: not really, no |
| 01:18.30 | Garoun | k k :) |
| 01:20.41 | Sole | it makes me sad when I spend an hour coding something to only log in and not have it even show up =\ |
| 01:20.51 | Sole | especially since it was showing last night ..grr |
| 01:21.22 | Megalon | :o |
| 01:22.45 | Sole | if GetRealZoneText() == ("Nagrand Arena" or "Blade's Edge Arena" or "Ruins of Lordaeron") then << I cant do that? |
| 01:22.46 | nymbia | most annoying kind of troublshooting imo |
| 01:22.54 | nymbia | IS DID :Show() DAMMIT!! |
| 01:23.00 | nymbia | s/IS/I/ |
| 01:23.09 | Sole | haha I know the feeling :( |
| 01:23.49 | Sole | but can I do an if statement like the one above? |
| 01:24.03 | rubik | i doubt it? |
| 01:24.13 | Cryect2 | Sole you can do it... |
| 01:24.15 | Cryect2 | but.. |
| 01:24.19 | Cryect2 | it doesn't mean what you think it means |
| 01:24.29 | rubik | or at least i can't think of a programming language where that means what you think it does.. heh |
| 01:24.32 | Sole | its one of those huh |
| 01:24.34 | Cryect2 | its the equivalent of just doing GetRealZoneText() == "Nagrand Arena" |
| 01:24.43 | Cryect2 | basically the or statements process till one is true |
| 01:24.48 | Cryect2 | then it returns the statement that is true |
| 01:24.56 | Sole | thats what I want |
| 01:25.04 | Cryect2 | yes but... |
| 01:25.09 | Cryect2 | "Nagrand Arena" |
| 01:25.11 | Cryect2 | is always true |
| 01:25.15 | Cryect2 | because its not nil or empty string |
| 01:25.17 | Cryect2 | or zero |
| 01:25.27 | Cryect2 | ("Nagrand Arena" or "Blade's Edge Arena" or "Ruins of Lordaeron") |
| 01:25.39 | Cryect2 | this entire part gets processed before they compare to the function return |
| 01:25.41 | rubik | what you wrote evaluates to: GetRealZoneText() == ( 1 or 1 or 1 ) |
| 01:25.44 | rubik | i.e. true |
| 01:25.47 | NightHawkTheSane | you want to do getrealzonetext() == "nagrand arena" or getrealzonetext() == "something else" etc |
| 01:25.49 | rubik | i think |
| 01:25.59 | Cryect2 | yeah what NightHawkTheSane said |
| 01:25.59 | Sole | ok |
| 01:26.05 | Cryect2 | except store function result in a local variable |
| 01:26.06 | Sole | I just didnt want to do the way nighthawk said |
| 01:26.09 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 01:26.11 | Sole | because its so pointless |
| 01:26.14 | Cryect2 | another way to do it |
| 01:26.18 | Cryect2 | is have a table lookup |
| 01:26.24 | Sole | yeah thought of that too |
| 01:26.30 | Cryect2 | so ArenaLocations[GetRealZoneText()] |
| 01:26.39 | Cryect2 | well with if and then around it |
| 01:26.39 | vhaarr | Sole: Tourist-2.0:IsArena(zone) |
| 01:26.50 | Cryect2 | heh or find an ace library :-p |
| 01:26.52 | Sole | vhaarr wins |
| 01:27.13 | Sole | do I have to worry about localization with Tourist? |
| 01:28.57 | vhaarr | no |
| 01:28.57 | vhaarr | if AceLibrary("Tourist-2.0"):IsArena(GetRealZoneName()) then |
| 01:28.57 | Sole | awesome |
| 01:29.50 | nymbia | Sole: do you need any extra stuff added to that data? |
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| 01:30.07 | Sole | currently Im trying to figoure out how to run the dataminer in the first place |
| 01:30.17 | nymbia | heh |
| 01:30.21 | Sole | then I want to edit it to only run on the user's battlegroup |
| 01:30.44 | nymbia | well the idea is to have the user just grab the pre-generated data |
| 01:30.50 | nymbia | and it gets updated every week or so |
| 01:31.09 | Sole | but thats 1.6mb of memory just for the data file |
| 01:31.25 | nymbia | they're split into different files per battlegroup |
| 01:31.29 | nymbia | which'll be loaded on demand |
| 01:31.46 | Sole | hmm |
| 01:32.24 | Sole | you dont think it'd be better just to have the dataminer run on the user's end on the particular battlegroup? |
| 01:32.32 | Sole | would save me from uploading a new data file every week :P |
| 01:33.28 | nymbia | well it's in lua (which most users dont have as a standalone) |
| 01:33.33 | nymbia | and uses luasocket |
| 01:33.44 | Sole | so it cant be run from WoW? |
| 01:33.53 | nymbia | nope |
| 01:34.10 | Sole | alright thats that fixed then |
| 01:36.39 | Sole | noob question: how do I give my lua files a svn-eol-style property? |
| 01:36.59 | Sole | tortoise wont let me import onto the svn without them having that property |
| 01:37.11 | vhaarr | Sole: You get an error. |
| 01:37.12 | Sole | but as far as Im aware I can only set SVN properties on files inside an SVN directory |
| 01:37.14 | vhaarr | Read the error. |
| 01:37.17 | vhaarr | Visit the URL. |
| 01:37.21 | vhaarr | Read what's there. |
| 01:38.25 | Sole | Im a fool, ty |
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| 01:53.57 | CIA-11 | 03sole * r32936 10Gladiator/: Gladiator: Intial import. |
| 01:53.57 | hyperChipmunk | MOD DESCRIPTIONS ON INITIAL IMPORTS!!!!!!!! |
| 01:53.57 | Sole | self explanator |
| 01:53.57 | hyperChipmunk | no it isn't |
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| 01:54.14 | Sole | gladiator...associated with arenas...what do you think its gonna do? |
| 01:54.15 | hyperChipmunk | and that isn't the point |
| 01:54.53 | hyperChipmunk | maybe i'm french or something |
| 01:55.03 | hyperChipmunk | no espeake english |
| 01:55.21 | Megalon | but what will gladiator do to my arena? :X |
| 01:55.25 | cladhaire | "Associated with arenas" isn't an addon description either |
| 01:55.26 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:55.44 | hyperChipmunk | not sure exactly what "gladiator" is, so i'll try reading the description |
| 01:55.49 | Sole | you guys are killing me :( |
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| 01:56.09 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm sure they'd like to for that commit :P |
| 01:56.26 | Sole | bunch of vultures |
| 01:56.37 | NoraBatty | Sole, do a pretend commit with a descrip :) |
| 01:56.44 | Sole | doing it already :P |
| 01:56.54 | hyperChipmunk | nah, just put it in the second one |
| 01:57.01 | Sole | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:57.11 | hyperChipmunk | as long as svn log |tail catches it, i'm happy =D |
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| 01:59.09 | ckknight | yea, I have no idea what Gladiator is, still |
| 01:59.09 | ckknight | is it a thing where you shout references from the movie Gladiator? |
| 01:59.09 | ckknight | cause I liked that movie |
| 01:59.21 | ckknight | Sole: so what's it do? |
| 01:59.22 | hyperChipmunk | FOR FREEDOOOOOM! |
| 01:59.27 | ckknight | lol, hyperChipmunk |
| 01:59.29 | hyperChipmunk | oh wait... |
| 01:59.41 | ckknight | that's Braveheart |
| 01:59.43 | Sole | lol |
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| 02:04.07 | CIA-11 | 03sole * r32937 10Gladiator/ (Gladiator.lua Gladiator.toc banto.tga frame.lua libs/): |
| 02:04.07 | CIA-11 | Gladiator: Externals update. For the inquiring minds: Gladiator is an addon |
| 02:04.07 | CIA-11 | similiar to ArenaMaster and ArenaLiveFrames. Key differences being: it doesn't |
| 02:04.07 | CIA-11 | hurt the eyes, and it's going to have castbars and show enemie's talent specs, |
| 02:04.07 | CIA-11 | their team rating and rank. |
| 02:04.13 | Bibi`ouF | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=119.0 |
| 02:04.16 | Shadowed | haha |
| 02:04.18 | Bibi`ouF | added a northrend sword, and it kick asses. |
| 02:04.30 | Shadowed | I was wondering how long it would take for someone to use specs after i released it |
| 02:04.44 | ckknight | kicks asses |
| 02:05.25 | Shadowed | hyperChipmunk: do you know what arenas are? =p |
| 02:05.55 | Shadowed | Theres mods that when you mouseover or target a player in arenas makes a frame with the name/class and such information that you can click to target them. |
| 02:06.08 | Shadowed | If I could figure out how to look at the code, i'd say more...but i'd imagine it's just another arena frame mod |
| 02:06.19 | Sole | JUST ANOTHER? |
| 02:06.28 | hyperChipmunk | way to totally miss the point =p |
| 02:06.30 | Sole | you must mean THE arena frame mod ^^ |
| 02:07.04 | Sole | ok I shouldnt reference other addons in my description, I get it |
| 02:07.06 | hyperChipmunk | i duno |
| 02:07.12 | Sole | thats not what it says in the toc anyway |
| 02:07.12 | hyperChipmunk | it's an inauspicious start |
| 02:07.46 | hyperChipmunk | auther can't even copy/paste his toc description |
| 02:07.57 | hyperChipmunk | s/auther/author/ |
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| 02:10.03 | Shadowed | Sole: Just arena =p |
| 02:10.07 | Shadowed | er, just another |
| 02:10.42 | Shadowed | SSPVP, ArenaLiveFrames, ArenaMaster, BGGladiator do it...sooo just another is accurate i think! |
| 02:12.02 | Sole | :( |
| 02:12.11 | chuckg | http://chuckg.org/wow/fraps/illidan.php |
| 02:14.29 | Shadowed | Sole: If you want an example of getting talent specs, it's done in Arena Enemy Talents including getting the data from the armory |
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| 02:33.26 | vhaarr | chuckg: Transcriptor please :P |
| 02:33.33 | chuckg | Hmm? |
| 02:34.08 | vhaarr | http://files.wowace.com/Transcriptor/Transcriptor.zip |
| 02:34.29 | chuckg | Why are you linking that to me though? |
| 02:34.34 | chuckg | That's why I asked hmm! :) |
| 02:34.58 | vhaarr | What? |
| 02:35.12 | NightHawkTheSane | huh. the first result in google for 'floor' is the php manual page for the floor() function. that's a little bit scary. |
| 02:35.26 | vhaarr | chuckg: So that video is not recorded by you? |
| 02:36.07 | chuckg | Guildmate. |
| 02:36.16 | chuckg | We have combat logs though. |
| 02:36.27 | chuckg | I think. |
| 02:38.06 | chuckg | Make a BigWigs module before it's even released, eh? |
| 02:38.13 | vhaarr | indeed |
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| 02:40.40 | chuckg | I think he wants us to kill Illidan before h releases it. |
| 02:40.48 | chuckg | But he didn't say it in so many nice words. |
| 02:41.06 | vhaarr | right. |
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| 02:45.00 | Sole | Shadowed: sorry I dont get to use private messaging on this network, my user name is bugged |
| 02:45.15 | Shadowed | ahh fun |
| 02:45.18 | Sole | Shadowed: by slain messages and syncing, do you mean just parsing the combat log? |
| 02:45.50 | Shadowed | Yeah, the "You have slain <blah>." and "<name> has slain <blah>." messages only are fired when the person actually dies, meaning it's 100% accurate and wont fire when they FD |
| 02:46.20 | Shadowed | The downside is you have to be within around 20yd of the person when they die, but 99% of the time you're within that range, and you could always add syncing as a just in case |
| 02:46.38 | Sole | thats what I intend to use :) |
| 02:49.12 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: BT3 is on the absolute top of my CPU time list on PTR. |
| 02:49.28 | Cryect2 | ouch |
| 02:49.51 | Cryect2 | KTM or Ace2 generally were on the top for me I found |
| 02:50.08 | vhaarr | Ace2 is above BT3, but it doesn't count. |
| 02:50.25 | Cryect2 | hehe |
| 02:50.27 | vhaarr | With 40+ addons using it, you can't do anything about it. |
| 02:50.31 | Cryect2 | yeah since everything calls Ace2 :-p |
| 02:51.04 | vhaarr | seriously |
| 02:51.07 | vhaarr | is KTM at the top? |
| 02:51.15 | vhaarr | I wonder what those guys are smoking |
| 02:51.17 | ckknight | vhaarr: one thing I thought of doing, just as an idea, was to make every AceEvent addon have its own frame, thus put all the proper profiling in that addon rather than in Ace2 |
| 02:51.18 | Cryect2 | Was for me at times |
| 02:51.22 | Cryect2 | its just Kenco |
| 02:51.26 | ckknight | dunno, though |
| 02:51.30 | Cryect2 | and KTM is nowhere as bad as it used to be |
| 02:51.33 | ckknight | that would cause its own issues |
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| 02:51.42 | vhaarr | ckknight: indeed, hm |
| 02:51.43 | Cryect2 | Trinity bars normally was around third for me when I was fooling aroudn |
| 02:52.13 | vhaarr | ckknight: it's worth a try, I think |
| 02:52.19 | ckknight | could be |
| 02:52.53 | ckknight | I'll fool with it later |
| 02:53.51 | Ominous | is ace event the heavist used addon according to profilling? |
| 02:53.55 | vhaarr | Cryect2: It's just one guy doing KTM? |
| 02:54.07 | Cryect2 | Pretty sure just Kenco last I knew |
| 02:54.11 | Cryect2 | I'll check |
| 02:54.32 | Ominous | i have KTM on lod and only enable it when guild yell at me |
| 02:54.37 | vhaarr | Ominous: It obviously depends on the amount of Ace2 addons you are running. What do you want to learn from your question anyway? |
| 02:54.49 | Ominous | i was just wondering |
| 02:55.11 | vhaarr | are you sure you understand the issue? |
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| 02:55.33 | vhaarr | running around saying "ace2 uses the most cpu time of all my addons" without knowing what it means is not something I want |
| 02:55.35 | Ominous | ye, probs not explaining self well enoyugh as im tired |
| 02:56.34 | ckknight | vhaarr: actually in the way I'm thinking it could theoretically be more efficient, depending on how the C works. |
| 02:56.34 | ckknight | not sure. |
| 02:56.44 | JoshBorke | C >> lua |
| 02:56.46 | vhaarr | well it would pollute more |
| 02:56.46 | Cryect2 | All of his documentation suggests its just him, he always refers to himself only in discussing the framework, how you can help him out, etc |
| 02:56.55 | vhaarr | Cryect2: okay |
| 02:57.16 | vhaarr | Cryect2: I wonder if he has entertained the possibility of moving to the wowace framework. |
| 02:57.29 | nymbia | it'd almost be nice to split the Ace2 standalone into LoD mini-addons |
| 02:57.45 | Cryect | heh he has built his own framework over time etc so who knows its come a long way from its beginnings |
| 02:57.48 | vhaarr | I don't think that would have any effect. |
| 02:57.51 | nymbia | not sure that anything i use uses acetab, anyway |
| 02:58.07 | vhaarr | nymbia: All slash commands use AceTab if available. |
| 02:58.42 | hyperChipmunk | (huzzah) |
| 02:59.11 | vhaarr | lol, wtf |
| 02:59.18 | vhaarr | they didn't fix flying mounts with the new PTR patch |
| 02:59.18 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: he seems to have a dislike of ace |
| 02:59.21 | nymbia | well, i was thinking it'd be nice to split up the mem usage too -- but i think that the vast majority would be blamed on AceEvent |
| 02:59.23 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: oh? |
| 02:59.32 | vhaarr | nymbia: indeed it would |
| 02:59.36 | ckknight | vhaarr: who? |
| 02:59.42 | ckknight | wait |
| 02:59.43 | vhaarr | ckknight: the KTM author, apparently |
| 02:59.46 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: who |
| 02:59.47 | ckknight | oh |
| 02:59.51 | ckknight | fuck that guy |
| 02:59.54 | ckknight | who is he anyway? |
| 02:59.55 | vhaarr | really? |
| 02:59.56 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 02:59.57 | nymbia | kenco |
| 02:59.57 | vhaarr | I have no idea |
| 02:59.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Kenco |
| 03:00.02 | hyperChipmunk | do we care? |
| 03:00.24 | Cryect | He's an interesting guy who approaches stuff pretty scientifically when it comes to theorycrafting |
| 03:01.00 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but i'm not sure what not liking ace has to do with anything |
| 03:01.06 | vhaarr | could be, but it's apparent that he could use some help on that addon |
| 03:01.28 | JoshBorke | does help only involve including Ace though? |
| 03:01.29 | Cryect | heh why do you think he wrote KLHPerformanceMeter :-p |
| 03:01.43 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: what kind of fucked up question is that |
| 03:01.43 | Arrowmaster | would be better to just write a replacement |
| 03:01.46 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: of course it doesn't |
| 03:01.50 | Sole | Shadowed: theres a problem with the slain messages, localization |
| 03:02.13 | vhaarr | Sole: no, you solve those with deformat |
| 03:02.15 | JoshBorke | i must have misinterpreted the conversation, my apologies |
| 03:02.18 | Shadowed | Sole: ? |
| 03:02.32 | nymbia | ahem: |
| 03:02.35 | nymbia | your mother |
| 03:02.40 | nymbia | ...continue |
| 03:02.46 | NightHawkTheSane | hwh |
| 03:02.48 | Sole | vhaarr is correct once again |
| 03:02.49 | NightHawkTheSane | er, heh |
| 03:03.24 | Cryect | Seems to be slightly less CPU use at the moment for KTM than Trinity Bars which makes no sense considering I'm not in combat don't see any mobs in combat near me etc |
| 03:03.30 | vhaarr | Sole: Take a look at the GenericBossDeath handler in BigWigs\Prototype.lua, for example, but that's without using Deformat, since it's just 1 parameter. |
| 03:03.37 | Ominous | hmm if there is a secure function ReplaceEnchant() how would you call that on a button clicK? |
| 03:03.48 | vhaarr | Cryect: right, so, like I said, it seems he could use some help. |
| 03:03.55 | Cryect | yeah something isn't right |
| 03:03.59 | Shadowed | Sole: I'm confused, whats wrong? |
| 03:04.09 | Cryect | I mean it just exceeded Trinity bar cpu usage |
| 03:04.17 | Cryect | I will have to check later what functions exactyl are doing it |
| 03:04.45 | nymbia | i'd guess buff and gear scanning stuff |
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| 03:04.52 | nymbia | but really that's most of the addon so... |
| 03:05.12 | Cryect | It should only do that when it needs to though |
| 03:05.14 | nymbia | well... GetFunctionCPUUsage() to the resuce, i guess |
| 03:05.29 | nymbia | s/resuce/rescue/ |
| 03:05.29 | Cryect | Yeah I need to finish writing my function scanner |
| 03:05.36 | Arrowmaster | i honestly dont think he would accept help, people suggested stuff like babble-boss and parserlib before and he stated he didnt want to use stuff he didnt have control over |
| 03:05.59 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: Sounds like a great guy. |
| 03:06.02 | hyperChipmunk | svn accounts this way -----> |
| 03:06.11 | vhaarr | Of course, what he doesn't realise is getting a SVN account gives him control. |
| 03:06.29 | Cryect | Well when you are worried about making sure everything is perfectly exact |
| 03:06.36 | Cryect | it makes sense |
| 03:06.43 | vhaarr | I disagree |
| 03:06.46 | hyperChipmunk | i'm pretty sure we made a point of licensing all of that stuff so as to alleviate that sort of thing |
| 03:06.52 | Arrowmaster | hes just an ass imho but hes the only one currently willing maintain a large project like KTM |
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| 03:07.05 | vhaarr | Cryect: What makes sense is using something that more people than *you only* have laid your eyes on. |
| 03:07.08 | nymbia | it's quite insane to try to micromanage something that involves so much |
| 03:07.27 | Arrowmaster | they newest beta of KTM (19.17) is perty broken too |
| 03:07.53 | vhaarr | nymbia: exactly |
| 03:07.54 | Arrowmaster | we had rogues pulling aggro off the tank when ktm said they were 10k threat below him |
| 03:08.22 | Cryect | 19.12 seems more accurate on threat |
| 03:09.12 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:09.12 | Shadowed | It's not exactly easy to tell threat numbers, can't really expect it to be accurate all the time |
| 03:09.19 | Funkeh` | well you need to appreciate its jsut an estimated |
| 03:09.27 | Funkeh` | if you gamble everything on a mter your an idiot |
| 03:09.27 | CIA-11 | 03sole * r32938 10Gladiator/ (Gladiator.lua libs/): Gladiator: Added tourist lib. Bug fixes. |
| 03:09.28 | Ominous | threat works in odd ways |
| 03:09.33 | Funkeh` | meter* |
| 03:09.48 | Funkeh` | its a guide |
| 03:09.53 | Cryect | yeah a lot of the new stuff has new threat deaggros or threat adding moves |
| 03:10.15 | Ominous | or like breaking fear causing alot of threat etc |
| 03:10.17 | Arrowmaster | yes it does, but we were constantly noticing it being off on everything vs the last version |
| 03:10.36 | Funkeh` | the only time i really notice it being off is in SSC |
| 03:10.44 | Kirkburn|Vista | So what is Gladiator? |
| 03:10.50 | Funkeh` | it doesn't have the capability to measure some threat reducing abilitites from bosses |
| 03:11.05 | Funkeh` | needs it added, like hydross |
| 03:11.09 | Funkeh` | was only recently added |
| 03:11.45 | hyperChipmunk | /highfive kirkburn |
| 03:11.52 | Shadowed | Kirkburn|Vista: ArenaLiveFrame/ArenaMaster with a different frame layout |
| 03:11.52 | Cryect | Just me flying in circles over bone wastes http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/4403/cpucomparisonur4.jpg |
| 03:13.33 | JoshBorke | Cryect: what mod is that? |
| 03:13.54 | Cryect | Protractor (well unless I come up with a better name before releasing it) |
| 03:14.10 | vhaarr | Pro-Tractor? |
| 03:14.13 | vhaarr | :P |
| 03:15.39 | Funkeh` | how about |
| 03:15.43 | Funkeh` | ILikePies |
| 03:15.58 | Cryect | Ace2 though only has a lot of startup CPU Usage |
| 03:16.07 | Cryect | the longer you sit around the less use it gets |
| 03:16.12 | Fisker- | http://worldofraids.free.fr/2.1.0/news/hyjalrepring.jpg |
| 03:16.12 | Fisker- | SAGE |
| 03:17.00 | Funkeh` | yes cryect |
| 03:17.09 | Funkeh` | ktm overtook it for me after 15min or so |
| 03:17.15 | Funkeh` | becoming no1 |
| 03:17.33 | Funkeh` | i think it was ktm, ace2, bt3, DBM |
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| 03:18.12 | Cryect | Heh I should check where IMBA is on if I list them all |
| 03:18.18 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 03:18.31 | Cryect | DBM is that high that its 4th for you? |
| 03:18.37 | Funkeh` | it just proved what i already knew |
| 03:18.51 | Funkeh` | when enabled yes |
| 03:18.55 | Cryect | that its as badly written as I figured it was last I looked at it? |
| 03:19.04 | Funkeh` | its not that bad |
| 03:19.09 | Funkeh` | but theres room for improvement |
| 03:19.19 | Cryect | It should be using basically nothing when you are standing around doing nothing |
| 03:19.22 | nymbia | i helped em too much |
| 03:19.27 | Funkeh` | yes blame nymbia |
| 03:19.30 | nymbia | or it'd be # |
| 03:19.31 | nymbia | 1 |
| 03:19.33 | Cryect | I mean I assume you weren't raiding anything with it on |
| 03:19.33 | Gngsk | whuts dbm? |
| 03:19.46 | Funkeh` | now when i say bigwigs is better i have to say by 23% instead of by 25% cause of nymbia |
| 03:19.46 | Cryect | it shouldn't do anything except when you enter into combat check hey should I activate a boss mod |
| 03:19.47 | Fisker- | databasemanager obviously |
| 03:19.59 | Funkeh` | (completely made up numbers) |
| 03:20.05 | nymbia | heh |
| 03:20.10 | vhaarr | nymbia: You helped DBM? |
| 03:20.23 | Funkeh` | expect anything else from a gnome vhaarr? |
| 03:20.24 | vhaarr | how? |
| 03:20.30 | vhaarr | yeah I do |
| 03:20.35 | Cryect | I still liked the second they converted to Load On Demand they used warmup to try to say Vendetta is better than Bigwigs and IMBA in performance |
| 03:20.41 | nymbia | vhaarr: not really no. i made fun of em for using loadstring and concats on this HUGE chunk of code |
| 03:20.46 | Cryect | based on warmup memory numbers |
| 03:20.47 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 03:20.49 | Fisker- | in b4 enemy of state |
| 03:20.50 | Funkeh` | we had a nice flame war |
| 03:20.51 | vhaarr | nymbia: .. loadstring? |
| 03:20.53 | Funkeh` | was funny |
| 03:20.55 | Funkeh` | people cried |
| 03:21.07 | vhaarr | Cryect: Heh, yeah, I remember that. |
| 03:21.11 | hyperChipmunk | vhaarr: you really don't want to know |
| 03:21.19 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: I believe you |
| 03:21.41 | vhaarr | I am curious though :P |
| 03:21.46 | Cryect | why would they be using loadstring? |
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| 03:21.55 | Funkeh` | if only we could all throw our shitty code into lod modules and have 1 file load and call it most efficient cryect |
| 03:21.57 | Fisker- | btw nymbia |
| 03:22.01 | Fisker- | you're gonna get destroyed |
| 03:22.05 | Cryect | I'm really curious |
| 03:22.06 | nymbia | vhaarr: it was a menu options generating function. so what they did is passed in the module name, concatonated this huge chunk together with the module name, the loadstringed it |
| 03:22.16 | hyperChipmunk | whole frickin' section of the code loadstring-concatenated |
| 03:22.26 | nymbia | vhaarr: i was like.. that's horrible, you know you can just use a closure there right? |
| 03:22.31 | vhaarr | nymbia: :P |
| 03:22.56 | Cryect | why didn't they just use some sort of structure? |
| 03:23.16 | Cryect | since you fixed it I assume they must have given you some archaic reason behind this |
| 03:23.19 | nymbia | ./shrug |
| 03:23.24 | nymbia | i didnt look much at the code |
| 03:23.30 | hyperChipmunk | thye concatenated ever line |
| 03:23.35 | nymbia | i was just glancing through and that part caught my eye |
| 03:23.37 | hyperChipmunk | every* |
| 03:23.44 | nymbia | yeah it was amazing |
| 03:23.44 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: table.concat? |
| 03:23.51 | hyperChipmunk | .. |
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| 03:24.00 | nymbia | so it was like 3 concats per line for 50 lines |
| 03:24.04 | nymbia | then loadstring the whole thing |
| 03:24.07 | vhaarr | :o |
| 03:24.22 | hyperChipmunk | loadstring("for foo in bar do" .. |
| 03:24.34 | Cryect | I can't believe someone would actually come up with the idea to implement something like that |
| 03:24.34 | hyperChipmunk | "foo = 1" .. |
| 03:24.36 | hyperChipmunk | etc. |
| 03:24.39 | vhaarr | lol |
| 03:24.39 | hyperChipmunk | ) |
| 03:24.46 | Funkeh` | i like the latest one |
| 03:24.59 | Funkeh` | 'dude i have disabled the bg addon and when i join bg i sitll get bars' |
| 03:25.12 | Funkeh` | 'thats probably cause dbm is creating bars from sync it recieves' |
| 03:25.17 | Funkeh` | 1. wtf? 2. wtf? |
| 03:25.21 | nymbia | hahaha |
| 03:25.23 | vhaarr | haha |
| 03:25.33 | Funkeh` | 1. your a mongo for syncing bg |
| 03:25.47 | Funkeh` | 2. your a mongo for sending sync that physically create bars |
| 03:25.59 | Funkeh` | 'so whats the solution'? |
| 03:26.03 | Funkeh` | 'enable the bg addon' |
| 03:26.05 | Funkeh` | .... |
| 03:26.11 | Cryect | heh hey it can happen in bigwigs (well if personally create my own global bar :-p) |
| 03:26.23 | vhaarr | yeah if you're a nubcaek |
| 03:26.28 | Funkeh` | but thats you taking responsibility for doing it |
| 03:26.31 | Funkeh` | in BG its automatic |
| 03:26.38 | vhaarr | I was thinking btw, should we stop enabling BigWigs by default when you join a raid? |
| 03:26.53 | vhaarr | And just let it happen per zone instead. |
| 03:26.54 | Cryect | I do it intentionally for trash respawns in case I do a reloadui someone else has trash respawn timers |
| 03:26.56 | Shadowed | Syncing is pointless if you're not going to create the bars Funkeh` |
| 03:27.05 | vhaarr | Shadowed: You are mistaken. |
| 03:27.09 | Funkeh` | nono |
| 03:27.22 | Funkeh` | you misunderstood |
| 03:27.30 | Funkeh` | the sync it sends is like a custom bar |
| 03:27.37 | Funkeh` | instead of sending a sync that triggers a bar |
| 03:27.47 | vhaarr | lol |
| 03:27.53 | Shadowed | Oh that |
| 03:27.54 | Funkeh` | that bar should not be triggered if the bg addon is off |
| 03:27.55 | vhaarr | okay that's even worse |
| 03:28.00 | vhaarr | Shadowed: You are still mistaken, though. |
| 03:28.05 | Funkeh` | and the solution is to turn the bg addon on |
| 03:28.09 | Funkeh` | see what i mean? |
| 03:28.19 | Shadowed | It's a rather easy way to save code if you trust people |
| 03:28.42 | vhaarr | It's a horrible way. |
| 03:28.44 | Funkeh` | theres no trust in it 'cause theres no user option to fix that |
| 03:28.45 | vhaarr | In many ways. |
| 03:28.53 | vhaarr | 1. Localization-wise. |
| 03:29.01 | vhaarr | 2. Version-conflicting |
| 03:29.05 | vhaarr | 3. etc, I'm tired |
| 03:29.17 | Shadowed | Theres version conflicting with any sync message |
| 03:29.27 | Funkeh` | you create bars in an addon, then start them when the sync is recieved |
| 03:29.36 | Funkeh` | you shouldn't create bars for syncs, unless its pizza timer |
| 03:29.44 | vhaarr | Shadowed: There are levels of version conflicts, and something that sends a raw pizza timer is the worst one. |
| 03:29.54 | hyperChipmunk | where's pizza? |
| 03:30.00 | vhaarr | in my belly! |
| 03:30.01 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
| 03:30.54 | Funkeh` | if you created a bar on every sync, it wouldn't matter what addons you had disabled, you would get bars |
| 03:31.04 | vhaarr | Shadowed: Sending syncs is useful even if you do not specifically want it right there and then, because the user might change his mind and toggle the option to display the bar anyway, and you'd want any tagged-on logics to that bar to be reflected when the option is toggled. |
| 03:31.10 | vhaarr | Instead of starting from scratch. |
| 03:31.20 | Shadowed | Not saying it's a good idea, just that it's not a completely useless one. |
| 03:31.29 | vhaarr | I think it is a useless one. |
| 03:31.35 | Funkeh` | the only time its useful is pizza timers |
| 03:31.36 | vhaarr | Unless only user-invoked. |
| 03:31.40 | vhaarr | Like CustomBars in BW. |
| 03:31.48 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 03:31.53 | hyperChipmunk | where's pizza =\ |
| 03:31.59 | hyperChipmunk | i want pizza |
| 03:32.02 | NightHawkTheSane | me too hyperChipmunk |
| 03:32.03 | vhaarr | sry there was a party but we ate it all |
| 03:32.03 | Funkeh` | pizza timers is just a phrase for custom bars |
| 03:32.23 | Funkeh` | im hungry enough as it is! |
| 03:32.34 | NightHawkTheSane | see, so get some for yourself too while you're at it |
| 03:33.06 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, are gnomes good pizza toppings? |
| 03:33.11 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 03:33.36 | nymbia | and how |
| 03:33.55 | CIA-11 | 03sole * r32939 10Gladiator/ (Gladiator.toc libs/): Gladiator: Externals update. Now uses Tourist to detect arena zones. |
| 03:35.23 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: so, respond please. |
| 03:35.41 | vhaarr | Should we stop enabling BigWigs by default when you join a raid, and just let it enable by zone? |
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| 03:35.55 | Funkeh` | why not |
| 03:36.01 | vhaarr | indeed why not |
| 03:36.08 | Funkeh` | it will fix the BG issue |
| 03:36.12 | vhaarr | yep |
| 03:36.28 | Sole | nymbia: ping |
| 03:36.44 | NightHawkTheSane | That'd be nice, though wouldnt there be an edge case of outdoor bosses? |
| 03:36.52 | vhaarr | NightHawkTheSane: No. |
| 03:37.01 | Funkeh` | nah, its jsut another zone |
| 03:37.02 | vhaarr | BigWigs loads in those zones. |
| 03:37.12 | Cryect | Does bigwigs use a lot of performance or something when there is no bossmods running? |
| 03:37.18 | Funkeh` | so if you are in raid and in HFP it should load for example |
| 03:37.24 | NightHawkTheSane | I see |
| 03:37.26 | vhaarr | Cryect: It has 2 events registered. |
| 03:37.34 | Cryect | k so same as IMBA boss yells and regen? |
| 03:37.36 | hyperChipmunk | or just blacklist the BGs |
| 03:37.41 | vhaarr | Cryect: no |
| 03:37.55 | Cryect | oh target change :-p |
| 03:37.55 | vhaarr | Cryect: ZONE_CHANGED and CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM. |
| 03:38.05 | Cryect | ah |
| 03:38.07 | vhaarr | And CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM will be removed shortly. |
| 03:38.20 | Cryect | so the modules themselves load up the other events then? |
| 03:38.28 | Cryect | however that activates them? |
| 03:38.29 | Funkeh` | mouseover |
| 03:38.31 | Funkeh` | a boss |
| 03:38.43 | Funkeh` | sends an enable boss module synjc message |
| 03:38.53 | Funkeh` | and registers the corresponding boss events |
| 03:38.57 | vhaarr | Cryect: The mouseover/targetting events are only registered for if you're in a zone that BigWigs has boss modules for. |
| 03:39.05 | vhaarr | Cryect: Everything enables as it is needed. |
| 03:39.24 | Funkeh` | cryect: we don't like enabling things when theres no use for hem |
| 03:39.26 | Cryect | k pretty good |
| 03:39.29 | Cryect | yeah I understand that |
| 03:39.31 | Funkeh` | them* |
| 03:39.54 | Cryect | I do like to know what the hell DBM is sitting around doing when you are afk though :-p |
| 03:39.57 | vhaarr | Actually, we still need CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM to disable BW when you leave the raid. |
| 03:40.15 | Funkeh` | cyrect: it doesn't unregister events, it registers everything |
| 03:40.17 | vhaarr | Cryect: it's scanning the wowace repository for new bigwigs modules to rip. |
| 03:40.25 | Funkeh` | grr my spelling sucks |
| 03:40.26 | nymbia | lol |
| 03:40.29 | Cryect | haha |
| 03:40.35 | Funkeh` | lolz |
| 03:40.56 | Sole | nymbia: gotta discuss tattle |
| 03:41.05 | nymbia | sure |
| 03:41.32 | Funkeh` | cryect: dbm doesn't use any kind of enabling feature for individual boss mods, everything is registered when the instance addons is loaded |
| 03:41.48 | Funkeh` | cryect: and never unregistered if i remember right |
| 03:42.23 | Sole | nymbia: gonna go for the LOD approach, would it be possible to split data into a folder for each battlegroup? |
| 03:42.26 | hyperChipmunk | vhaarr: rofl |
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| 03:42.46 | nymbia | Sole: sure |
| 03:42.58 | Sole | nymbia: thats the only way to do it, isnt it? |
| 03:43.07 | nymbia | yeah |
| 03:44.06 | nymbia | my only concern is how well the abnormal characters in some battlegroup names will be handled |
| 03:44.42 | Sole | nymbia: what do you use to run the dataminer? |
| 03:44.54 | nymbia | command line lua |
| 03:45.06 | Sole | nymbia: they should be handled fine |
| 03:45.26 | nymbia | oh yeah that will |
| 03:45.41 | nymbia | wow is the one that worries me ;) |
| 03:46.32 | mjc | heh |
| 03:46.37 | vhaarr | "Fired when the player is camping", according to wowwiki. |
| 03:46.42 | nymbia | lol |
| 03:46.42 | vhaarr | well jeez |
| 03:46.54 | mjc | how'd ou figure that out |
| 03:46.56 | mjc | LOL |
| 03:46.59 | vhaarr | :D |
| 03:47.02 | Funkeh` | don't register for player_afk with me, you get more counts of it than player_moving |
| 03:47.06 | mjc | cryptic |
| 03:47.14 | mjc | Funkeh`: it cdhanges when peoples afk status changes |
| 03:47.21 | mjc | which doesn't require movement |
| 03:47.32 | Funkeh` | you didn't get it, mjc :p |
| 03:47.41 | mjc | ah |
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| 03:47.44 | mjc | now I did |
| 03:47.45 | Cryect | Funkeh`: Ouch at them doing that >_> |
| 03:47.51 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
| 03:50.28 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r32940 10Tattle/data.lua: Tattle: Add EU-Reckoning data to the central data file |
| 03:51.32 | vhaarr | I can't believe there's no event for leaving your group. |
| 03:51.32 | vhaarr | grr |
| 03:51.52 | vhaarr | I go to wowwiki.com looking for one at least once a month |
| 03:51.55 | vhaarr | I never find anything |
| 03:52.37 | vhaarr | WTS |if msg:find(ERR_RAID_YOU_LEFT) or msg:find(ERR_RAID_MEMBER_REMOVED_S:format(UnitName("player"))) then|, PST |
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| 03:56.03 | vhaarr | Since CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM is so rare compared to PMC, I figure that even if it means 2 :finds, it's still more efficient than PMC+GetNumParty/RaidMembers() |
| 03:56.22 | vhaarr | could be wrong though |
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| 04:12.25 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r32941 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: BigWigs: AQ40/Cthun: range scanning |
| 04:13.25 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r32942 10Tattle/ (114 files in 29 dirs): |
| 04:13.25 | CIA-11 | Tattle: |
| 04:13.25 | CIA-11 | - Give each battlegroup file its own directory and toc file |
| 04:13.29 | Sole | people still do cthun? |
| 04:13.35 | nymbia | 114 files, nice |
| 04:13.37 | nymbia | lol |
| 04:13.45 | Sole | lol |
| 04:13.48 | Funkeh` | wtf |
| 04:14.00 | nymbia | that's the deleted ones on root, too |
| 04:14.27 | nymbia | 29 battlegroups between us and eu |
| 04:14.55 | Sole | how long did it take to gather the data? |
| 04:15.13 | nymbia | i ran it overnight and got all the US data in about 6 hours |
| 04:15.19 | nymbia | sbu's been working on the eu data |
| 04:15.27 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: The Proximity module mechanics need work. |
| 04:15.33 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: I wouldn't convert any more right now. |
| 04:16.19 | nymbia | but it works pretty well with targeted gathering and resumes |
| 04:17.08 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r32943 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: BigWigs: Aq40/Cthun: revert my last commit actually |
| 04:17.13 | Funkeh` | wanted to kill cthun assist |
| 04:17.18 | Funkeh` | but bah it does stomach crap also |
| 04:17.21 | Funkeh` | meh |
| 04:17.32 | vhaarr | yeah, cool, but I think I will be rewriting Proximity |
| 04:17.45 | vhaarr | it doesn't work in its current state |
| 04:17.51 | Shadowed | nymbia you're getting talents from every play on every battlegroup with an arena team, correct? |
| 04:17.56 | Funkeh` | haven't really tested it |
| 04:18.03 | Sole | Shadowed: correct |
| 04:18.06 | vhaarr | or, it works |
| 04:18.16 | Sole | Shadowed: Its only the top 300 teams actually |
| 04:18.19 | Shadowed | You know that it's against the ToS technically...so getting that much data is probably not the best idea |
| 04:18.31 | Shadowed | well not even technically, it is |
| 04:18.38 | nymbia | which tos? |
| 04:18.46 | Roartindon | Kemayo: ping |
| 04:18.57 | vhaarr | Reading armory data is a violation of the ToS? |
| 04:19.12 | Shadowed | http://worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html See B #7 |
| 04:19.15 | Sole | its open to the public |
| 04:19.15 | Shadowed | sorry, #6 |
| 04:19.26 | Shadowed | "Use bots or other automated techniques to collect information from the Program or any forum or website owned or administered by Blizzard; " |
| 04:19.45 | nymbia | so under that falls |
| 04:19.49 | nymbia | the armory tools |
| 04:19.51 | Shadowed | Pretty much |
| 04:19.58 | nymbia | the blue tracker sites |
| 04:20.04 | Shadowed | yep |
| 04:20.05 | nymbia | and google for that matter |
| 04:20.07 | nymbia | lol |
| 04:20.11 | Diao | :O |
| 04:20.13 | Diao | Hey Shadowed |
| 04:20.13 | Sole | lol |
| 04:20.15 | Funkeh` | nymbia |
| 04:20.18 | Funkeh` | wheres blackout |
| 04:20.24 | nymbia | wuh |
| 04:20.30 | Shadowed | Blizzard can tell Google not to search it's sites if wanted |
| 04:20.32 | nymbia | probably not mined yet |
| 04:20.41 | vhaarr | nymbia: I'd run with it until I got a mail from blizzard :) |
| 04:20.43 | Funkeh` | alright |
| 04:20.52 | Funkeh` | vhaarr: same |
| 04:20.57 | nymbia | wow-europe is too slow for me to get much data from my end |
| 04:20.59 | Shadowed | And while they haven't enforced it, getting mass amounts of data that quickly isn't the best thing to do |
| 04:21.01 | Shadowed | hello Diao |
| 04:21.04 | Sole | til blizz says something, Im using nymbia's data |
| 04:21.45 | vhaarr | hm, take a look at #10 |
| 04:21.48 | Funkeh` | shadowed: theres a ton of websites getting data from the armoury |
| 04:21.51 | vhaarr | I think we have to split this channel in 2 |
| 04:21.56 | vhaarr | one for horde and one for alliance |
| 04:22.02 | nymbia | haha yeah |
| 04:22.04 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 04:22.57 | nymbia | coworker on the other faction? even if he's on a different server? can't talk to 'em at work!!! |
| 04:23.12 | vhaarr | lol |
| 04:23.30 | Shadowed | Funkeh` and they're going against it too...using an aggressive method of getting data on a mass scale is far more likely to get there attention however so just be aware of that. |
| 04:23.50 | Funkeh` | they should abn my ip |
| 04:23.52 | Funkeh` | ban* |
| 04:23.57 | vhaarr | so Antiarc's tools are violating the ToS as well, then? |
| 04:23.58 | Funkeh` | so i can get a new one and do it again |
| 04:24.05 | nymbia | course |
| 04:24.08 | Shadowed | "and they're going against it too...using an aggressive method of getting data on a mass scale is far more likely to get there attention however so just be aware of that." |
| 04:24.12 | Funkeh` | now where did i put my caring face |
| 04:24.16 | vhaarr | Antiarc: You'd better watch out, they are coming for you!!1 |
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| 04:24.23 | Sole | nymbia: will you be updating tattle weekly with the new data or should I run it myself? |
| 04:24.38 | vhaarr | cron <3 |
| 04:24.44 | nymbia | Sole: i'll probably run it weekly or so, yeah |
| 04:24.49 | Sole | alrighty |
| 04:24.57 | Funkeh` | once a week |
| 04:25.00 | Funkeh` | should be ok |
| 04:26.01 | Sole | now to take every battle group and turn it into an LOD addon |
| 04:26.10 | Funkeh` | LOL |
| 04:26.11 | nymbia | Sole: they are :) |
| 04:26.13 | vhaarr | "our Chat sessions may be subject to monitoring, logging, review, modification, ..." |
| 04:26.15 | vhaarr | *modification* |
| 04:26.22 | Funkeh` | do it with WAU |
| 04:26.23 | vhaarr | s/our/Your/ |
| 04:26.32 | Funkeh` | so every time you update it sits for 30min |
| 04:27.07 | Sole | nymbia: they dont have LoadOnDemand: 1 in the toc *confusedfase* |
| 04:27.28 | nymbia | er.. they dont have anything at all in the toc. weird. |
| 04:27.40 | Funkeh` | you got banned already nymbia |
| 04:27.48 | Sole | nevermind, I missed it |
| 04:27.55 | Sole | they do have lod in em |
| 04:28.06 | nymbia | do they? i just opened one and it was empty |
| 04:28.15 | Sole | was it EU? |
| 04:28.20 | nymbia | not sure |
| 04:28.21 | nymbia | lol |
| 04:29.04 | Sole | the EU ones are empty |
| 04:29.07 | Sole | the US are fine though |
| 04:29.21 | Sole | however theyre not considered addons if theyre inside the tattle folder, are they? |
| 04:29.32 | nymbia | nope |
| 04:29.54 | Funkeh` | what other good shows are going atm that i can download |
| 04:30.01 | nymbia | they'll just need a .sh and .bat to split em out |
| 04:30.02 | Funkeh` | stargate and prison break stopped :( |
| 04:30.08 | Sole | :( |
| 04:30.13 | Sole | heroes isnt too bad |
| 04:30.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: stargate atlantis? |
| 04:30.37 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: I just started downloading something called "Standoff", with Ron Livingston from Band of Brothers. |
| 04:30.39 | Funkeh` | season 4 is launched? |
| 04:30.46 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, well no.. |
| 04:30.52 | Funkeh` | bleh |
| 04:30.53 | vhaarr | No idea how it is, I just queued it. |
| 04:31.02 | Funkeh` | hmm |
| 04:31.06 | NightHawkTheSane | hell im not sure if s3 is over in the us yet |
| 04:32.03 | vhaarr | speaking of which, Band of Brothers is worth watching if you haven't. |
| 04:32.20 | Sole | is it that 9 hour long movie? |
| 04:32.26 | vhaarr | yes |
| 04:32.33 | Sole | heard great things about it |
| 04:32.43 | NightHawkTheSane | I think at 9 hours it's beyond the term of "movie" |
| 04:32.43 | vhaarr | well it's not that, it is actually a miniseries |
| 04:33.05 | vhaarr | proper episodes at ~50min-1h10min |
| 04:33.08 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r32944 10Tattle/ (20 files in 20 dirs): Tattle: Populate EU tocs.. why they weren't in the first place? /shrug |
| 04:33.24 | Funkeh` | vhaarr: looks good |
| 04:33.32 | Funkeh` | hostage type crime scene thing? |
| 04:33.45 | Funkeh` | http://www.fox.com/standoff/ |
| 04:33.58 | vhaarr | I think the main characters play criminal negotiators or something |
| 04:34.04 | vhaarr | like .. they talk to bad guys |
| 04:34.06 | vhaarr | or whatever |
| 04:34.07 | vhaarr | for the CIA |
| 04:34.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Hmm. |
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| 04:47.00 | Funkeh` | whats the cooldown of misdirection and how long does it last |
| 04:47.06 | Diao | 2 minutes, lasts 30 sec |
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| 04:49.13 | hyperChipmunk | 30s or 3 hits |
| 04:50.17 | hyperChipmunk | rarely ever actually lasts 30s =) |
| 04:51.31 | Diao | well |
| 04:51.31 | Diao | yeah |
| 04:51.32 | Diao | :P |
| 04:54.04 | Galka | Is anyone having issues with the latest Bar3? I can't lock / unlock the bars (clicking on them to make them red or green) |
| 04:54.30 | Funkeh` | no idea, i configured them when 2.0 cam eout and didn't touch em since |
| 05:12.04 | Sole | hmm |
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| 05:13.02 | ckknight | I want another PTR patch |
| 05:13.22 | ckknight | oh, nvm |
| 05:13.41 | ckknight | anybody have a framexml diff yet? |
| 05:15.24 | hyperChipmunk | they re-patch ptr? |
| 05:16.08 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 this warrior is main handing blinkstrike and offhanding a green axe. |
| 05:16.08 | Funkeh` | ckknight: i think theres a diff on the wowace forums |
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| 05:17.03 | kaiden | NightHawkTheSane, ask him if it's nice to eBay? :P |
| 05:17.14 | hyperChipmunk | Blinkstrike? that's like, html tags gone horribly wrong |
| 05:18.41 | hyperChipmunk | <blink><strike>LOL BUY WOW GOLD LOLOL</strike></blink> |
| 05:19.10 | Sole | how would I batch rename a bunch of files to have a string in front of them without replace the first X characters of the file name |
| 05:19.16 | Sole | that probably makes no sense |
| 05:19.27 | hyperChipmunk | rename '' foo * |
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| 05:19.58 | hyperChipmunk | or for i in *; do mv $i foo$i; done |
| 05:20.26 | Funkeh` | if you want your addon to be efficient after 2.1 stick a z_ on front of the name |
| 05:20.34 | hyperChipmunk | .. |
| 05:20.42 | Sole | ha wha? |
| 05:20.45 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 05:20.59 | Funkeh` | so it loads last :/ |
| 05:21.07 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 05:21.24 | hyperChipmunk | except they don't load that way in linux |
| 05:21.55 | Funkeh` | you must have different cpu results then from windows user |
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| 05:22.45 | hyperChipmunk | maybe, but i'm smart enough to know what can be inferred from those results and what cannot |
| 05:23.07 | hyperChipmunk | loading them last doesn't make them more efficient |
| 05:23.29 | hyperChipmunk | it just makes them look that way to the profiler |
| 05:23.36 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 05:23.45 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: still need a diff? |
| 05:23.50 | ckknight | making my own |
| 05:23.54 | Funkeh` | i see a z_KTM and z_DBM! |
| 05:23.55 | ckknight | you want it? |
| 05:24.10 | Funkeh` | althought they don't have libraries |
| 05:24.26 | hyperChipmunk | nah, i can make it myself easy enough |
| 05:24.59 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/13560 |
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| 05:25.24 | Funkeh` | is that of the old/new ptr patch? |
| 05:25.45 | FakeDog | would someone be able to help me with a question about agunit frames? |
| 05:26.10 | ckknight | yes, Funkeh` |
| 05:26.20 | ckknight | I guess, FakeDog |
| 05:27.33 | Funkeh` | rofl function RaidFrameReadyCheckButton_Update() 232- if ( GetNumRaidMembers() > 0 and (IsRaidLeader() or IsRaidOfficer) ) then 233+ if ( GetNumRaidMembers() > 0 and (IsRaidLeader() or IsRaidOfficer()) ) then |
| 05:27.34 | hyperChipmunk | basically they just added a pet casting bar frame, looks like |
| 05:27.43 | Funkeh` | nice mistake |
| 05:27.46 | FakeDog | is it possible to show the targets of each party member with ag unitframes? |
| 05:28.27 | hyperChipmunk | yes, but you have to script it manually |
| 05:28.57 | FakeDog | heh, does anyone have a link to someplace that would have it? |
| 05:29.15 | FakeDog | as i am unable to script in WoW |
| 05:30.54 | hyperChipmunk | have you checked the ace forums? |
| 05:31.04 | hyperChipmunk | i'm sure someone has answered it already |
| 05:31.39 | FakeDog | looking there now |
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| 05:31.59 | Sole | chipmunk, why does this line like me? move * ..\Gladiator_* |
| 05:32.22 | Sole | s/does/doesnt |
| 05:32.30 | Sole | doesnt I mean |
| 05:33.21 | hyperChipmunk | because the way shell globs work, those are probably all expanded |
| 05:33.41 | hyperChipmunk | you basically replace the * with everything there |
| 05:34.19 | Sole | guess I'll just write a line for each folder |
| 05:34.24 | hyperChipmunk | so you just did 'move foo bar baz ../Gladiator_quux ../Gladiator_wee ../Gladiator_oogy |
| 05:34.27 | ckknight | FakeDog: I recommend trying PitBull ;-) |
| 05:34.52 | hyperChipmunk | basically, moving everything to ../Gladiator_oogy |
| 05:35.07 | Sole | it didnt move a thing at all though |
| 05:35.08 | hyperChipmunk | assuming windows shell globbing works like unix |
| 05:35.18 | hyperChipmunk | then i have no idea |
| 05:36.09 | hyperChipmunk | because that means it doesn't work like unix |
| 05:36.11 | nymbia | just modify the batchy scripts from babble or something |
| 05:36.29 | hyperChipmunk | i can guarantee, though, that * doesn't count as a variable |
| 05:38.05 | hyperChipmunk | hey, no pitbull errors on ptr now =x |
| 05:40.21 | ckknight | yep. |
| 05:40.25 | ckknight | just checking that |
| 05:40.32 | FakeDog | a browse throught the forums shows lots of threads that either talk about creating a minimod, or threads that dont have any info that i could use to implement it myself |
| 05:40.33 | FakeDog | :( |
| 05:40.40 | hyperChipmunk | perhaps you suck less than i previously imagined |
| 05:40.47 | ckknight | FakeDog: try PitBull |
| 05:40.51 | hyperChipmunk | FakeDog: have you tried PitBull? |
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| 05:41.20 | hyperChipmunk | it basically obseletes agUF |
| 05:41.46 | FakeDog | i will check it out |
| 05:42.00 | hyperChipmunk | how do they break gryphon animations on ptr? |
| 05:42.06 | hyperChipmunk | that totally baffles me |
| 05:42.18 | hyperChipmunk | and they don't skim water anymore either |
| 05:43.29 | hyperChipmunk | they needed to ADD land-skimming, not remove the effect entirely |
| 05:45.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Last time I checked.. i could skim the land, but not -actully- land. >< |
| 05:46.35 | Diao | how do you skim without landing? |
| 05:46.41 | Diao | Just hover real close to the ground? |
| 05:46.45 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: druid? |
| 05:46.56 | hyperChipmunk | Diao: fly into water |
| 05:47.09 | hyperChipmunk | on live server, it will stop you just above |
| 05:47.13 | Diao | Ah |
| 05:47.19 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32946 10Aloft/ (11 files in 3 dirs): |
| 05:47.19 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 05:47.20 | CIA-11 | - Added a number of basic tag types/modifiers |
| 05:47.20 | CIA-11 | - Converted HealthText to the tag system |
| 05:47.20 | CIA-11 | - Now absolutely requires MobHealth3 for health text information, no longer messes with MobHealthDB directly |
| 05:47.21 | hyperChipmunk | and you'll skim |
| 05:47.22 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: nope, warrior. i couldn't actually -land- and have the gryphon stand on the ground |
| 05:47.28 | Diao | Oh |
| 05:47.30 | ckknight | I can't log into the PTR with PitBull without it crashing. |
| 05:47.32 | Diao | Only thing I've tried |
| 05:47.36 | Diao | is the flipping mount trick |
| 05:47.43 | Diao | which is kind of fun but gets dizzy real fast |
| 05:47.43 | hyperChipmunk | until you make a deliberate move to dunk it |
| 05:47.47 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: on PTR? |
| 05:47.52 | hyperChipmunk | ptr is hosed |
| 05:48.04 | hyperChipmunk | when you "land" it doen't do the walk animation |
| 05:48.12 | hyperChipmunk | but it still drops you to walk speed |
| 05:48.22 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: yes |
| 05:48.29 | hyperChipmunk | well, mount-walk-speed |
| 05:48.33 | Diao | o.O |
| 05:48.38 | Diao | Oh for epics? |
| 05:48.41 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 05:48.42 | Diao | I only have a regular flying :( |
| 05:48.53 | hyperChipmunk | the epic mounts go 100% on ground |
| 05:49.19 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont know why they couldnt make the basic flyers go 100% on the ground >< |
| 05:50.00 | hyperChipmunk | the water skimming was the best part, though, for either one |
| 05:50.22 | hyperChipmunk | i was hoping they put in groundskimming too, but instead they borked the animation and it does neither =x |
| 05:50.36 | hyperChipmunk | now i just fly slow near the ground +P |
| 05:50.42 | hyperChipmunk | instead of running slow |
| 05:50.46 | NightHawkTheSane | yarr. |
| 05:52.45 | hyperChipmunk | dude |
| 05:52.50 | hyperChipmunk | my pet swims now, though |
| 05:52.56 | hyperChipmunk | that is so freaking awesome |
| 05:53.01 | mjc | ? |
| 05:53.04 | hyperChipmunk | ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ( ^ > ~~~~~ |
| 05:53.24 | hyperChipmunk | instead of sliding around in standing position underwater |
| 05:53.28 | hyperChipmunk | he has a swim animation |
| 05:53.30 | mjc | ah |
| 05:53.33 | ckknight | ( º Y º ) |
| 05:53.41 | ckknight | it's an owl |
| 05:54.11 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/swim.gif |
| 05:54.57 | NightHawkTheSane | would it be insensetive of me to note how absolutely gay that swim animation looks |
| 05:55.18 | hyperChipmunk | it looks really good in-game |
| 05:55.19 | ckknight | it just prefers the company of other birds |
| 05:55.20 | NightHawkTheSane | insensitive* |
| 05:55.23 | hyperChipmunk | and yes |
| 05:55.39 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r32947 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/ (. CommonAuras.lua): BigWigs_CommonAuras: drycoded misdirection cooldown |
| 05:55.47 | hyperChipmunk | he's gonna peck out your eye now for that comment |
| 05:55.57 | NightHawkTheSane | oh god, not my eye! |
| 05:57.15 | hyperChipmunk | ( ^ > > >>(*) |
| 05:58.03 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm pretty sure the things you're trying to do with emotes is illegal in six states. |
| 05:58.30 | hyperChipmunk | that's Lyriki pecking out yer eye |
| 05:58.39 | hyperChipmunk | see he move so fast that he leaves ascii motion blur |
| 05:58.58 | NightHawkTheSane | haha.. ascii motion blur. that's great :) |
| 05:59.18 | Sole | nymbia: would you mind me changing the tattle folder names to have a Gladiator_ prefix so users know what those folders are used with when they see them in the addons dir |
| 05:59.35 | Sole | this is only with the data files I'll distribute with glad |
| 06:01.00 | nymbia | Sole: go for it :) |
| 06:01.26 | Sole | nymbia: ty, now to figure out how to batch rename the files without replacing existing characters |
| 06:02.16 | Sole | currently what happens is instead of Gladiator_USCataclysm.lua I get Gladiator |
| 06:02.27 | Sole | I get Gladiator_m.lua :) |
| 06:02.38 | nymbia | weird |
| 06:03.15 | hyperChipmunk | O_o i just typed :wq after editing a macro in wow |
| 06:03.25 | Sole | o_O |
| 06:03.28 | NightHawkTheSane | I do that all the time |
| 06:05.45 | kaiden | vi = debil |
| 06:06.11 | NightHawkTheSane | debil? see, if you were using vi, you would have spelled that right. :D |
| 06:06.37 | NightHawkTheSane | unless.. um, that was engrish? |
| 06:06.41 | kaiden | that was engrish |
| 06:06.43 | kaiden | :P |
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| 06:08.50 | pastamancer | you wouldn't believe how often I type C-x C-s |
| 06:08.57 | pastamancer | when I don't intend to |
| 06:09.15 | ckknight | that's kinda silly |
| 06:09.16 | ckknight | :wq! |
| 06:09.31 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:09.37 | Funkeh` | later folks, have fun |
| 06:13.30 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32948 10Aloft/Modules/GuildText.lua: Aloft: Attached guild text now honors show own setting again |
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| 06:17.16 | sbu | nymbia? |
| 06:17.47 | nymbia | sup |
| 06:18.36 | sbu | dataminer needs to have all data in data.lua to gather/split correct? would be nice if it reads the single files - because if you dont have some stuff in the big file the data just gets discarded + re-gathered :/ |
| 06:19.20 | nymbia | well the big file keeps all the resume data but it's smart about not deleting data that you don't have newer of |
| 06:19.21 | CIA-11 | 03sbu * r32949 10Tattle/EUBloodlust/EUBloodlust.lua: Tattle: added EU Bloodlust data |
| 06:20.12 | sbu | hm no problem with resume data - but completed stuff should be MOVED to small files |
| 06:20.47 | sbu | and just marked as "complete" in the data.lua file (+ last updated? would be nice location for this) |
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| 06:21.33 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i'm gonna kill ya nymbia |
| 06:21.39 | ckknight | well, figured out how to crash WoW |
| 06:21.42 | ckknight | better file a bug |
| 06:22.09 | hyperChipmunk | install one of your addons? |
| 06:22.16 | hyperChipmunk | o-ho burn |
| 06:22.20 | `-FISKER_Q\ | nah |
| 06:22.23 | `-FISKER_Q\ | tekkub's addons! |
| 06:22.36 | `-FISKER_Q\ | especially mountme |
| 06:22.38 | `-FISKER_Q\ | :( |
| 06:22.39 | hyperChipmunk | tekkub just left |
| 06:22.39 | sbu | atm you have to update 2 locations for 1 battlegroup (big file + small files) to have it working correctly (the mining) :/ |
| 06:22.46 | hyperChipmunk | you can't make fun of him |
| 06:22.56 | `-FISKER_Q\ | isn't it a her? |
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| 06:23.39 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 06:23.40 | TecnoBrat | ~seen Tornhoof |
| 06:24.15 | purl | tornhoof is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 254 messages. Is idling for 10h 2m 32s, last said: 'trinket?'. |
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| 06:24.16 | doktoreas | hi to all |
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| 06:24.37 | doktoreas | wich is the best place to start writing an addon? |
| 06:26.14 | Nickenyfiken | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon maybe |
| 06:26.27 | haste | you should _never_ go directly to a framework |
| 06:26.53 | Arrowmaster | i did, sorta |
| 06:26.55 | ckknight | that's arguable. |
| 06:26.59 | ckknight | I did, haste |
| 06:27.00 | haste | http://www.lua.org/pil/ << learning the langauge which is used might be a better start |
| 06:27.10 | ckknight | but yea, learn the pil first |
| 06:27.11 | ckknight | my guess |
| 06:27.17 | haste | it would be faster |
| 06:27.21 | haste | and less trial and error |
| 06:27.22 | Nickenyfiken | I did too |
| 06:28.41 | NightHawkTheSane | its okay to start using a framework at the same time you start learning a language. Just need to be smart enough to realize you need to learn the language, not just the framework. |
| 06:29.13 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r32950 10PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull-Portrait - fix for WoW 2.1 r6592 |
| 06:29.50 | Arrowmaster | yeah i learned how to use the framework, how the framework works, why the framework works, and then how to not use the framework |
| 06:30.06 | Sole | http://www.svn.wowace.com/ < lol? |
| 06:30.30 | Arrowmaster | .... |
| 06:30.52 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 06:31.03 | Nickenyfiken | hahaha |
| 06:31.03 | ckknight | lol, Sole |
| 06:31.16 | nymbia | wtf? |
| 06:31.31 | shieldb | hmm.. with pitbull is it possible to define different textures for different types of frames? i.e. if I think texture X looks sexy on the player frame, but looks terrible on raid frames |
| 06:31.35 | CIA-11 | 03sbu * r32951 10Tattle/EUVerderbnis/ (. EUVerderbnis.lua EUVerderbnis.toc): Tattle: re-added EU Verderbnis!? |
| 06:32.32 | nymbia | sbu: commit your data.lua too! ;) |
| 06:33.00 | ckknight | shieldb: sorry, no |
| 06:33.04 | sbu | i manually copied some data there - should be fine? |
| 06:33.11 | doktoreas | i know something about php and python |
| 06:33.14 | nymbia | yeah |
| 06:33.23 | doktoreas | it's lua like one of those? |
| 06:33.48 | nymbia | lua's similar in some ways to python |
| 06:34.08 | hyperChipmunk | wtf, is that from a star wars book-cover? |
| 06:34.16 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, most languages are 'like' most other languages in some way |
| 06:34.18 | shieldb | ckknight, that's fine, I just got the impression that with texture under global settings that there might be some individual settings hidden somewhere ;) |
| 06:34.33 | Sole | chipmunk, it is |
| 06:34.35 | Sole | I thinks |
| 06:34.46 | CIA-11 | 03sbu * r32952 10Tattle/EUCyclone/EUCyclone.lua: Tattle: EU Cyclone 2+3 (incomplete) |
| 06:34.46 | pastamancer | both python and lua are scheme-ish, but the similarity mostly ends there |
| 06:35.42 | Sole | nymbia: any way I can get the tattle folder without it being all SVNish? I dont have much desire to manually download each file off the web svn either |
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| 06:36.42 | hyperChipmunk | Elkano: PTR error: ElkBuffBars-2.0 beta.32786\ElkBuffBars.lua:1091: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 06:36.49 | nymbia | Sole: as far as including them in gladiator or just getting them? |
| 06:37.31 | Sole | nymbia: as far as including them, Ive written the batch file to rip them out, rename the folder and rename the toc file in each one but the folders still have all the svn crap associated with em |
| 06:37.43 | Sole | nymbia: and AFAIK that will be passed onto whoever downloads them |
| 06:38.13 | nymbia | Sole: just pull em in with externals ;) |
| 06:38.23 | Arrowmaster | do copy instead of move, copy doesnt see the .svn folders |
| 06:38.25 | CIA-11 | 03sbu * r32953 10Tattle/data.lua: Tattle: cleanup data.lua + insert recently added battlegroups |
| 06:38.42 | Sole | thanks arrowmaster :) |
| 06:39.01 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32954 10Aloft/Modules/ (GuildText.lua HealthText.lua): |
| 06:39.01 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 06:39.02 | CIA-11 | - GuildText now uses tagging system |
| 06:39.22 | ckknight | freaky bug: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96074800&sid=1 |
| 06:39.41 | sbu | nymbia: getting some more sleep now, laters ;) |
| 06:39.49 | nymbia | see ya sbu |
| 06:40.07 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: that just on load? |
| 06:40.11 | ckknight | yes |
| 06:40.42 | Arrowmaster | my druid friend was having issues where it crashed almost every time he changed forms |
| 06:41.00 | ckknight | well, dunno |
| 06:41.29 | ckknight | hopefully it'll get fixed soon |
| 06:41.58 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r32955 10ElkBuffBars/ElkBuffBars.lua: ElkBuffBars - possible fix for line 1091 PTR bug |
| 06:42.14 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: You have to work on your level :-P |
| 06:42.20 | Elkano | hC, here you go |
| 06:42.27 | art3mis | anyone playing on ptr? |
| 06:42.35 | art3mis | got a question about he new decks |
| 06:42.40 | Sole | Arrowmaster: It seems COPY doesnt create a directory |
| 06:42.49 | Elkano | Nickenyfiken, TrainerFu's tablet tooltipsare shown under the tablet :( |
| 06:42.55 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: ? |
| 06:43.02 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 06:43.08 | ckknight | hey [Ammo] |
| 06:43.09 | Elkano | morning ammo |
| 06:43.11 | sedatedChipmunk | you suck [Ammoo] |
| 06:43.27 | Arrowmaster | Sole: check the pt3 bat file, cant help much more than that right now just started an online quiz for one of my classes |
| 06:43.28 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: level 4 is not that impressive :-) |
| 06:43.37 | Nickenyfiken | Elkano: hmm yeah i know |
| 06:43.38 | Sole | kk |
| 06:43.53 | art3mis | are the new decks that are coming out actual new decks? or are they just new rewards for the old deck cards? |
| 06:44.06 | Sole | new decks |
| 06:44.13 | sedatedChipmunk | new |
| 06:44.23 | Nickenyfiken | I was also gonna ask someone if it is possible yo have many Tablet tooltips up at the same time |
| 06:44.25 | art3mis | k good |
| 06:44.29 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: level 4? |
| 06:44.33 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: oh, on PTR? |
| 06:44.35 | Elkano | why do people keep asking for bars tracking buffs/debuffs cast in EBB :/ |
| 06:44.40 | art3mis | ive gotten like 9 random portals and warlords so far today |
| 06:44.47 | art3mis | and i keep vendoring them |
| 06:45.00 | sedatedChipmunk | Elkano: can you make it heal my raid? |
| 06:45.17 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: oh lol i didn't realize it was a PTR char :-P |
| 06:45.28 | ckknight | oh, that guy |
| 06:45.29 | Elkano | hC, it already does heal beter than you do ;) |
| 06:45.29 | sedatedChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.35 | ckknight | he's just what I use to post on |
| 06:45.59 | sedatedChipmunk | not anymore! my mend pet got buffed on Test |
| 06:46.20 | Arrowmaster | mend pet got the nerf bat |
| 06:46.30 | Arrowmaster | no more hunter soloing azuregous |
| 06:46.54 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:46.56 | Sole | WTF BLIZZ NERFS EVERYTHING! THATS NOT EVEN UNBALANCE! LIKE AT ALL |
| 06:47.10 | Nickenyfiken | Well what hunters use healing gear when playing the "normal" way? |
| 06:47.29 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, whatever; it got major improvement in all real situations |
| 06:47.37 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r32956 10ElkBuffBars/ElkBuffBars.lua: ElkBuffBars - c&p to wrong line... fixed |
| 06:47.38 | Nickenyfiken | Ok they can't beat bosses in 2 hours that they shouldnt be able to anyway |
| 06:47.42 | Sole | kek Im not even a hunter ^^ |
| 06:48.01 | Tupsi | morning |
| 06:48.01 | art3mis | anyone have a link to the new decks? |
| 06:48.10 | sedatedChipmunk | they're on mmo-champion.com |
| 06:48.17 | art3mis | thanks |
| 06:48.29 | Nickenyfiken | Are the old decks still useless? |
| 06:48.40 | nymbia | course |
| 06:48.44 | Tupsi | anyone here using bartender with a rogue? |
| 06:49.01 | Arrowmaster | portals might still have a few uses |
| 06:49.05 | Elkano | ckknight, did you get yesterdays/this morning's message wrt some Pitbull font strings being misanchored sometimes? |
| 06:49.09 | Tupsi | nymbia: your last manufac changes did the trick for me, no more errors, thanks! |
| 06:49.23 | nymbia | :) |
| 06:49.24 | ckknight | Elkano: yea, and I didn't see how |
| 06:49.33 | sedatedChipmunk | Elkano: all better |
| 06:50.10 | Tupsi | nevcairiel your alive? |
| 06:50.47 | art3mis | waits for what? |
| 06:51.19 | sedatedChipmunk | bibi has mmo-champion.com marked for highlight/ping; every time someone mentions it, he comes flying in |
| 06:51.36 | sedatedChipmunk | he must be afk or still sleeping |
| 06:51.38 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:53.07 | Tupsi | so no bartender boys awake? |
| 06:54.31 | ckknight | I'm not a big drinker, sorry |
| 06:54.45 | Nickenyfiken | haha |
| 06:57.36 | Tupsi | hehe |
| 06:57.52 | Tupsi | just made a new rogue last night and noticed the stance stuff not working there |
| 06:57.57 | Tupsi | working fine on my warrior though |
| 06:58.27 | Tupsi | the menu where you select your stance is empty on the rogue |
| 06:58.40 | Tupsi | i guess there should be the normal/stealth types in there |
| 06:58.49 | Tupsi | or whatever it is called |
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| 06:59.10 | Elkano | Tupsi, for my druid it's working... |
| 06:59.11 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32957 10Aloft/ (Aloft.lua AloftTag.lua): |
| 06:59.11 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 06:59.11 | CIA-11 | - Moved MobHealth3 code into Aloft.lua |
| 07:00.03 | Tupsi | yeah as i said, works fine with my warrior as well |
| 07:00.13 | Tupsi | maybe nev hates rogues in general .-) |
| 07:00.25 | Daemona | hmmm is it just me or doesnt fubar_tradeskillfu not pick up the new cloth timers? |
| 07:00.27 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r32958 10BigWigs/Extras/Proximity.lua: BigWigs: add option for per module proximity toggles |
| 07:00.35 | Tupsi | i know i did when playing on a pvp server in the old days |
| 07:00.46 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r32959 10BigWigs/Outland/Gruul.lua: BigWigs: Gruul - add proximity toggle |
| 07:01.05 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r32960 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Curator.lua: BigWigs: Curator - add proximity toggle |
| 07:02.55 | Elkano | Daemona, can't tell you... using SkillPlusFu myself but I don't know if that picks it up either |
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| 07:03.43 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32961 10Aloft/Modules/HealthText.lua: Aloft: HealthText - full format no longer shows brackets around health percentage if health isn't known. |
| 07:03.52 | Elkano | but now back to my final 190k XP |
| 07:04.02 | Tupsi | hmm, maybe because i just learned it last night? ill have another look at it tonight |
| 07:04.38 | Elkano | Roartindon, mana support isn't possible, is it? |
| 07:04.49 | Roartindon | Elkano: For party members, yes, for others no |
| 07:05.09 | Roartindon | And for party members, only by doing the name->unitid lookup via roster :) |
| 07:05.31 | Elkano | well, for party/raid/targets(?) it would be better than nothing ^^ |
| 07:05.59 | Roartindon | Yeah, I've been planning to add some of that stuff sometime |
| 07:06.52 | Roartindon | Other stuff to do first :) I'm pretty happy with the tagging system which was put in yesterday; and converting code to use it today |
| 07:07.24 | Elkano | oh... it's wednsday... damn |
| 07:09.11 | Punkie` | Sigh at my realm forums |
| 07:09.16 | Punkie` | every day something like 'may you tell me where does the sex girl come' |
| 07:09.23 | Punkie` | 'this girl is so sex' |
| 07:09.35 | Punkie` | 'do you love this sex girl?' |
| 07:09.54 | sedatedChipmunk | Punkie`: do you have pics of this "sex girl"? |
| 07:10.03 | Punkie` | it's a keylogger :/ |
| 07:10.17 | Punkie` | i love this girl, she is so sex |
| 07:10.22 | Elkano | hmm... I just wonder if it's possible to update dressing room in order to a) allways use the humanoide dressable model and b) being able to strip all equipment :/ |
| 07:10.22 | sedatedChipmunk | but is she hot? |
| 07:10.43 | Punkie` | ONLY THE HOTTEST KEYLOGGER I KNOW! |
| 07:10.54 | [Ammo] | haha |
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| 07:11.04 | sedatedChipmunk | nice, give her my number |
| 07:11.06 | Diao | isn't there a mod that strips the equipment already/ |
| 07:11.25 | Punkie` | she wants it in the form of your accountname and password |
| 07:11.57 | sedatedChipmunk | she don't waste any time, do she? |
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| 07:12.30 | Punkie` | apparently not :( |
| 07:13.02 | Punkie` | she's sex though, i think it must be worth it! |
| 07:13.09 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r32962 10Tattle/ (120 files in 60 dirs): |
| 07:13.09 | CIA-11 | Tattle: -Name the mini-embeds to make sense with Sole's addon so he |
| 07:13.09 | CIA-11 | doesn't have to do horrible batch renaming stuff |
| 07:14.12 | nymbia | Sole: there, now just use externals to grab 'em so you dont have to do manual stuff whenever they update |
| 07:14.37 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32963 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: Pulled out a couple of unused methods |
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| 07:16.37 | sedatedChipmunk | goodnight, losers whom I've always hated! |
| 07:16.42 | Roartindon | Is there any way to get a AceDB's default value? |
| 07:17.26 | Punkie` | I think sedatedChipmunk is talking to everyone else in this channel. |
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| 07:19.47 | Cryect | hmmm so its good idea if you are recursing through _G to make sure you don't keep looking into ._G surprisingly enough :-p |
| 07:20.18 | nymbia | i dunno you might find something different if you look deep enough |
| 07:20.25 | nymbia | ;) |
| 07:20.51 | Cryect | I was wondering how the fuck I was overflowing the memory in my recursion till I limited my depth to like 2 and saw whoops |
| 07:21.59 | Elkano | since iirc WoW doesn't have a _G by default blame the addon that set a global _G |
| 07:22.09 | Cryect | actually I think Lua docs says there is |
| 07:22.19 | Cryect | I guess WoW could have changed it |
| 07:22.46 | Cryect | First thing about _G it says is "A global variable (not a function) that holds the global environment (that is, _G._G = _G)." |
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| 07:26.20 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r32964 10Tattle/ (32 files in 30 dirs): |
| 07:26.20 | CIA-11 | Tattle: |
| 07:26.20 | CIA-11 | - Dataminer bugfix |
| 07:26.21 | CIA-11 | - Change title in tocs |
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| 07:34.39 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r32965 10Tattle/ (10 files in 10 dirs): Tattle: Delete empty files that were created by a bug |
| 07:38.25 | Sole | nymbia: you own |
| 07:38.37 | nymbia | Sole: :) |
| 07:39.53 | CIA-11 | 03whitetooth * r32966 10TipHookerLib/ (TipHooker-1.0/TipHooker-1.0.lua TipHookerLib.toc): |
| 07:39.53 | CIA-11 | TipHookerLib: |
| 07:39.54 | CIA-11 | - Fixed tekKompare support on login |
| 07:40.49 | CIA-11 | 03whitetooth * r32967 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 07:40.49 | CIA-11 | StatLogicLib: |
| 07:40.49 | CIA-11 | - Fixed :GetDiffID(item) giving incorrect shield diffs |
| 07:40.49 | CIA-11 | - :GetDiffID and :GetDiffID can accept ignore enchant and gem args |
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| 07:42.10 | CIA-11 | 03whitetooth * r32968 10RatingBuster/ (3 files): |
| 07:42.10 | CIA-11 | RatingBuster: 1.1.4 |
| 07:42.10 | CIA-11 | - Option to display Weapon Max Damage in summary |
| 07:42.10 | CIA-11 | - Improved option for ignoring enchants and gems, they are now 2 different options |
| 07:42.10 | CIA-11 | - Fixed some classes not showing summary for cloaks |
| 07:42.11 | CIA-11 | - Fixed incorrect shield diffs |
| 07:42.13 | CIA-11 | - Improved diff style code should fix funny errors |
| 07:43.17 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32969 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: Aloft: aloftData.level is nil if it can't be determined, rather than -1. |
| 07:43.26 | Sole | nymbia: hang on, if theyre externals then wont they still have SVN properties? |
| 07:44.07 | nymbia | mm... maybe. should they not? |
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| 07:45.51 | Sole | well when I distribute em, they'll svn links in em wont they? |
| 07:46.30 | nymbia | depends |
| 07:46.34 | nymbia | how are you gonna distribute? |
| 07:46.43 | Sole | put em in a zip and upload :P |
| 07:47.21 | nymbia | that'll always have the hidden svn stuff in the root, too |
| 07:47.35 | nymbia | use export and it'll get rid of em |
| 07:47.44 | nymbia | or just use the zip on /files |
| 07:48.35 | Sole | thought it didnt have a zip /files because it has no toc |
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| 07:48.48 | nymbia | it doesnt |
| 07:48.55 | nymbia | but gladiator does |
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| 07:49.43 | nymbia | and if they're externals in it |
| 07:49.49 | nymbia | then it'll work just fine |
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| 07:50.41 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32970 10Aloft/AloftTag.lua: |
| 07:50.41 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 07:50.41 | CIA-11 | - Tag compiler now uses AloftTagMethods["method"] instead of AloftTagMethods.method to avoid keyword collisions (eg. "not") |
| 07:51.17 | Sole | we can set externals that wont be inside Gladiator? |
| 07:51.35 | ckknight | Roartindon: tag compiler? |
| 07:51.55 | Roartindon | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:52.01 | Roartindon | But what it does is it pre-parses the tag |
| 07:52.08 | Roartindon | And creates a single function that is used |
| 07:52.21 | Roartindon | So that all places that use it do essentially: textField:SetText( compiledMethod() ) |
| 07:52.29 | ckknight | k... |
| 07:52.29 | ckknight | alright |
| 07:52.30 | ckknight | DogTag essentially does that |
| 07:53.07 | nymbia | Sole: as far as including files in the root of the zip? no :( |
| 07:53.37 | Roartindon | ckknight: really? I thought I saw dogtag's runcode doing string manipulation? |
| 07:53.46 | ckknight | yea, that's what it does |
| 07:54.01 | ckknight | it does it in a crazy and efficient way, though |
| 07:54.32 | Roartindon | Aloft is different.. if your tag is "[name]*"... it gets converted to loadstring("return function(aloftData) aloftData.name.."*" end")() |
| 07:54.49 | ckknight | oh.h |
| 07:54.50 | ckknight | oh* |
| 07:54.52 | ckknight | okay. |
| 07:54.57 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 07:55.02 | ckknight | interesting. |
| 07:55.14 | ckknight | maybe I can make DogTag more efficient by doing that. |
| 07:55.24 | Roartindon | And the latest change was so that a tag like: [level:not:"??"] can be used.. |
| 07:55.33 | nymbia | hmm |
| 07:55.35 | ckknight | okay |
| 07:55.51 | Roartindon | Because the "not" word was causing loadstring to fail before |
| 07:56.56 | Roartindon | Heh, I'd be happy to see it in dogtag :) |
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| 07:57.21 | ckknight | the way DogTag does it is pretty efficient as it stands |
| 07:57.21 | ckknight | but your way could be more efficient |
| 07:57.26 | ckknight | theoretically |
| 07:57.29 | Roartindon | I support tags in the form of: alpha [bravo:charlie] delta [conditional:"ShowStringIfConditional"] |
| 07:57.47 | Roartindon | Well, the nice thing is there's no string parsing/etc at display time |
| 07:58.26 | [Ammo] | but isn't loadstring fairly sluggish? |
| 07:58.34 | Roartindon | Grab the latest Aloft, uncomment the lines at the bottom of AloftTag.lua, and you can see some of the code it's compiling on the fly |
| 07:58.36 | nymbia | yeah but its only once per string |
| 07:58.40 | Roartindon | Ammo: Loadstring is once at setup |
| 07:58.48 | [Ammo] | yeah ok |
| 07:58.51 | Roartindon | or when settings change |
| 07:58.57 | Roartindon | after that, it's compiled bytecode |
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| 08:00.03 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:00.30 | ckknight | Roartindon: I'm gonna go back to a codeToFunction table with __index metamethod |
| 08:00.36 | ckknight | you do something like that? |
| 08:01.36 | Sole | fuck yeah just hit 2200 in 2v2, another 100 rating and armored netherdrake here I come |
| 08:01.36 | Roartindon | All of my tags convert to direct method calls |
| 08:01.49 | Roartindon | Not sure where I'd use __index metamethods? |
| 08:01.58 | nymbia | caching |
| 08:02.04 | Roartindon | ie. [tag] either becomes aloftData.tag, or AloftTagMethods.tag(...) |
| 08:02.06 | ckknight | it's to cache |
| 08:02.14 | ckknight | but how does it become? |
| 08:02.14 | nymbia | so if you have 50 [name] tags |
| 08:02.23 | Sole | nymbia: I may be a bit slow but how do you propose I use externals to include the tattle data with glad? o_O |
| 08:02.27 | nymbia | it only makes 1 closure |
| 08:02.36 | Sole | nymbia: to have it all in the same zip |
| 08:03.06 | Roartindon | nymbia: not sure I follow yet... if you have [name][name][name].. it becomes aloftdata.name..aloftdata.name..aloftdata.name |
| 08:03.08 | Sole | nymbia: just put them in the zip and have a .bat for the user to the run to put em in the addon folder? |
| 08:03.34 | nymbia | Sole: yeah that'd be the best way i guess |
| 08:03.52 | Sole | wow I just realised I typed a bunch of engrish |
| 08:03.53 | nymbia | Roartindon: like a single '[name]' on several different units |
| 08:05.06 | Roartindon | hmm.. still don't follow :) it's probably because the data storage for aloft is different from unit frames/other addons? |
| 08:05.35 | Roartindon | Each nameplate I have an aloftData structure, which is filled in with whatever data is deemed necessary (there's a whole dependency graph/tree that fills it in depending on what settings users have chosen) |
| 08:06.36 | Roartindon | That data is updated once when the nameplate is shown, and specific fields updated depending on relevant events - and tags are given which events are necessary to observe for them to call a redisplay |
| 08:07.53 | nymbia | well does it create one loadstring closure per fontstring per frame? or does it use the same for identical strings? |
| 08:08.07 | Roartindon | it uses one loadstring |
| 08:08.10 | Roartindon | for all of a particular type |
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| 08:08.29 | nymbia | that'd be the use of an __index metamethod |
| 08:08.31 | Roartindon | ie. if you display [name] for the name of the player, it's only compiled once, and used by all of the frames |
| 08:08.57 | nymbia | right |
| 08:11.13 | CIA-11 | 03sole * r32971 10Gladiator/ (DataFilesLOD.bat PlayerData/): Gladiator: Added PlayerData (from Tattle). You must run DataFilesLOD.bat, it has a neccessary keylogger in it. |
| 08:11.28 | nymbia | lol |
| 08:11.40 | Sole | ^^ |
| 08:12.01 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32972 10Aloft/AloftTag.lua: Aloft: AloftTag now escapes literal quotes " -> \" to avoid tag compilation errors. |
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| 08:17.56 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, well if sole says so. |
| 08:18.07 | Sole | yeah it wont worky |
| 08:18.29 | NightHawkTheSane | well, of course it wont work. largely because i'm not on windows. |
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| 08:19.11 | nymbia | minor issues |
| 08:19.21 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r32973 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: uncomment french mana emerald |
| 08:20.43 | kergoth | writing a batch file parser would be pretty trivial, even to calling out wine to run the executables. wonder if anyone's bothered |
| 08:20.57 | kergoth | command.com/cmd.exe syntax isnt exactly that rich |
| 08:22.39 | Locked | anyone know what addon would keep adding SET CombatLogPeriodicSpells "0" to the config.wtf file |
| 08:23.16 | kergoth | grep is your friend |
| 08:26.10 | Sole | yay it workies |
| 08:27.32 | Nickenyfiken | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96070172&sid=1 |
| 08:27.58 | Punkie` | Sole: what does it actually do? |
| 08:28.10 | Sole | Punkie`: arena frame addon |
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| 08:29.17 | nymbia | rofl Nickenyfiken |
| 08:29.20 | CIA-11 | 03sole * r32974 10Gladiator/ (DataFilesLOD.bat Gladiator.lua): Gladiator: The .bat file will now correctly send me your account info. |
| 08:29.37 | nymbia | handy that |
| 08:29.45 | Sole | yarg |
| 08:29.47 | Nickenyfiken | Haha i was so sure it was a typo first :-P |
| 08:30.15 | Sole | now I can get onto figuring out the player's battlegroup and then pulling out his info, make it legible and displaying it |
| 08:30.17 | Sole | rawr |
| 08:30.19 | Nickenyfiken | Gladiator is that the same as Tattle? |
| 08:30.32 | Sole | gladiator is an arena frame addon utilising tattle |
| 08:30.40 | Nickenyfiken | Ah |
| 08:30.50 | Diao | lol |
| 08:31.04 | Sole | btw nymbia, one of my 2v2 team mates wants to know if it would be possible for tattle to grab a person's teammates |
| 08:31.14 | Sole | so we see one person we immediately know the rest of hte team |
| 08:31.24 | Sole | thats borderline cheating ^^ |
| 08:31.36 | Sole | I know its doable, but I dunno how much extra crap it would bring |
| 08:31.37 | Punkie` | Sole: screenie or it didn't happen dammit! |
| 08:31.56 | Sole | Punkie`: it didnt happen |
| 08:34.27 | Sole | I guess thats a "Ive done enough for your stupid ass anyway, leave me alone" from nymbia :P |
| 08:34.51 | NightHawkTheSane | you dont have to take that from him, sole! |
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| 08:35.06 | NightHawkTheSane | and by him, i mean nymbia obviously. you DO have to take it from Punkie` |
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| 08:35.43 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r32975 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: add light's grace and add some missing icons (mined from thottbot) |
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| 08:41.11 | Punkie` | muahaha |
| 08:41.13 | Punkie` | [Ammo] bought our guild RDX6 last night, it rules |
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| 08:42.55 | Punkie` | :( |
| 08:43.21 | Punkie` | he was drawing penis' on the quill feature it has all night :o |
| 08:43.46 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: come to Sander's meeting |
| 08:43.51 | [Ammo] | I'll rip you a new asshole |
| 08:44.06 | Punkie` | nah, that will give you double the fun |
| 08:44.10 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 08:44.18 | SunTiger | also, drawing penises was what i used to do in guildwars minimap |
| 08:46.09 | NightHawkTheSane | some days, i wish i could kill people on my faction |
| 08:46.17 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 08:46.21 | NightHawkTheSane | freaking mages tagging three mobs at a time. >< |
| 08:46.33 | Punkie` | like that guy who i stole 3 terocone and a fel lotus from |
| 08:46.35 | Stephmw | *only* 3? |
| 08:46.43 | NightHawkTheSane | there were only three up. |
| 08:46.45 | Stephmw | .. tagged mobs that is |
| 08:46.53 | Punkie` | and proceeded to link them to him a few times after he told me to go fuck myself |
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| 08:47.53 | Punkie` | NightHawkTheSane: Don't tell me you are at elemental plateau dammit! |
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| 08:48.13 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
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| 08:48.18 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 08:48.19 | NightHawkTheSane | I wish i wasnt, though |
| 08:48.28 | Punkie` | what are you grinding for specifically? |
| 08:48.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Money :P |
| 08:48.46 | Punkie` | do quests! |
| 08:48.52 | NightHawkTheSane | only have group quests left |
| 08:48.55 | Punkie` | have you done the whole of netherstorm? |
| 08:48.57 | Punkie` | ok |
| 08:49.19 | Punkie` | go to shadowmoon and just grind the air elementals |
| 08:49.31 | Punkie` | air is pretty expensive, at least on my server |
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| 08:49.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i might do that. its like 30g on mine |
| 08:50.00 | Punkie` | :) |
| 08:50.23 | NightHawkTheSane | I normally skin/herb, but I needed a chance of pace, that was getting old, fast. |
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| 08:51.16 | [Ammo] | get a job outside wow, ebay gold, done. |
| 08:51.43 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 08:52.01 | [Ammo] | it's more efficient than farming yourself |
| 08:52.17 | NightHawkTheSane | sadly |
| 08:52.53 | CIA-11 | 03pettigrow * r32976 10BigWigs/ (19 files in 5 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 08:59.52 | evl | So Violation just stopped? |
| 09:00.00 | evl | Is it working? Can I rule as a meter whore on it? |
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| 09:04.21 | ckknight | it should work |
| 09:04.31 | ckknight | but it needs everyone in the group to have it |
| 09:06.05 | [Ammo] | the partydamage thing worked fine for me |
| 09:06.10 | [Ammo] | but others had problems with it |
| 09:06.10 | [Ammo] | meh |
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| 09:11.55 | evl | okay, guess i'm sticking with DamageMeters until then |
| 09:15.38 | ckknight | omfg |
| 09:15.54 | ckknight | I updated Dogtag to make a function and loadstring it instead of parse on demand |
| 09:16.12 | NightHawkTheSane | and its like 30% faster? |
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| 09:16.22 | ckknight | before it was taking up like 1.4 s or so, and doing the same stuff, it's now taking up 0.020 s |
| 09:16.32 | NightHawkTheSane | wow. |
| 09:16.35 | Daemona | if you dont like spoiler from Black Temple, dont click http://tinyurl.com/3cbyhx ;) |
| 09:16.39 | ckknight | gonna commit |
| 09:16.42 | Diao | lol |
| 09:16.44 | Diao | wow |
| 09:16.49 | Roartindon | ckknight: Heh... I thought so :P |
| 09:16.57 | Roartindon | No matter how fast your string parsing, it can't beat not having to even do it :) |
| 09:17.08 | ckknight | Roartindon: I also do hacks you don't :-P |
| 09:17.16 | ckknight | but DogTag is slightly more complex with the modifiers |
| 09:17.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Daemona: thats not.. exactly.. a spoiler.. |
| 09:17.20 | ckknight | so it's needed |
| 09:17.31 | Roartindon | I'm guessing a hack with unitid? |
| 09:18.19 | Daemona | NightHawkTheSane well, ppl can be very strict about unreleased content |
| 09:18.47 | Daemona | i wonder when they will be fixing the logout/release spirit/self-rezz in instance issue :/ |
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| 09:19.13 | ckknight | Roartindon: well, that was there before |
| 09:19.20 | theoldone | hi! |
| 09:19.26 | ckknight | Roartindon: but I was more talking about how it populates a table and then runs table.concat |
| 09:19.28 | ckknight | hey, theoldone |
| 09:19.53 | Roartindon | ckknight: that's faster than doing "blah..blah..blah" ? |
| 09:20.04 | theoldone | is there a way for adding a bottomframe without changing all the grapichal ui |
| 09:20.10 | theoldone | skinme change all... |
| 09:20.25 | Roartindon | hmm.. maybe I'll change Aloft to do that if it saves string manips |
| 09:20.25 | ckknight | no, they're about equivalent, but since DogTag does complex shifting with modifiers, I can't do standard concatenation |
| 09:20.28 | ckknight | since there's if statements and all |
| 09:20.52 | ckknight | basically, if you do local s = 'a'; s = s .. 'b'; s = s .. 'c'; that's bad |
| 09:21.08 | ckknight | but if you do local s = 'a' .. 'b' .. 'c', that's fine. |
| 09:21.17 | Roartindon | ah okay, I'm doing the bottom |
| 09:21.21 | ckknight | okay then |
| 09:21.22 | ckknight | you're fine |
| 09:22.16 | Roartindon | Glad to hear that the loadstring() idea really paid off tho... and in a pretty big way % wise :) |
| 09:22.33 | ckknight | yep. |
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| 09:23.05 | Roartindon | From your rough numbers it's at least 50x faster :) |
| 09:23.16 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r32977 10ElkBuffBars/ (ElkBuffBars.lua icon.tga): ElkBuffBars - added icon provided by Jakobud @ wowace forums |
| 09:23.26 | Roartindon | woo.. icon for ElkBuffBars! |
| 09:23.27 | krka | pretty sure table.concat is slower than primitive concat |
| 09:23.44 | Daemona | uuuh EBBs is no placeholder anymore? ;) |
| 09:23.50 | Daemona | time to update EBB? |
| 09:24.00 | Roartindon | Yeah, EBBS hasnt been a placeholder for over amonth |
| 09:24.03 | Elkano | updating EBB wouldn't help ;) |
| 09:24.10 | Daemona | replacing... blaaah |
| 09:24.29 | Roartindon | Elkano: And with that icon, it's ready for the removal of the "beta" tag? :) |
| 09:24.48 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r32978 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - switch to a system where functions are created dynamically with loadstring, instead of parsing every single call. This causes about a 10x speedup or more. |
| 09:24.55 | Elkano | well, I'm still having at least two known bugs left :/ |
| 09:26.16 | Daemona | known bugs are good, unknown are ... well fun ;) |
| 09:26.44 | ckknight | unknown are features until specified otherwise |
| 09:27.19 | Daemona | It's not a Bug, its a F3@tur€ |
| 09:27.21 | Daemona | ;) |
| 09:27.42 | krka | i consider unplanned features are bugs |
| 09:27.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i prefer 'its not a bug, you're just being stupid |
| 09:27.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ' |
| 09:31.08 | [Ammo] | it's not a bug unless it bothers you |
| 09:31.11 | [Ammo] | if it bothers you, fix it |
| 09:31.26 | Elkano | intended behaviour to piss you off |
| 09:32.54 | krka | so it's just a bug if it's something that affects you negatively? |
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| 09:33.16 | krka | an unintended feature in a banking system that gives you free money is not a bug? |
| 09:33.29 | NightHawkTheSane | .. if i'm the one getting free money? hells no. |
| 09:33.54 | Roartindon | What's the "[[" and "]]" syntax used in DogTag now? |
| 09:34.10 | krka | looks like plain lua long strings to me |
| 09:34.50 | SunTiger | [[ and ]] are literal strings if i remember correctly |
| 09:35.19 | SunTiger | nothing between the two is parsed |
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| 09:35.26 | SunTiger | allowing you to use ' and " without problems |
| 09:35.32 | SunTiger | and a few other things |
| 09:35.34 | krka | nothing is escaped |
| 09:35.42 | Roartindon | ah, got it |
| 09:36.28 | whizter | can someone tell me how to get a nice chatlog and combatlog like this? http://www.nihilum.co.uk/full_image.php?id=1479 |
| 09:36.34 | Nickenyfiken | Damn your code is head to understand ckknight :-/ |
| 09:36.42 | Nickenyfiken | I have to learn more lua |
| 09:36.51 | ckknight | um, yea, it's complex :-P |
| 09:37.00 | Roartindon | Chat is Prat, combat log is probably SimpleCombatLog |
| 09:37.20 | Nickenyfiken | last changeset for DogTag was funky :-P |
| 09:37.36 | whizter | ok thx |
| 09:39.04 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r32979 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_Bar.lua ElkBuffBars.lua): ElkBuffBars - added option for full bars for timeless buffs (drycode) |
| 09:39.42 | Elkano | Nickenyfiken, I'll blame you... |
| 09:40.19 | Nickenyfiken | hehe ok :-( |
| 09:40.34 | ckknight | actually my calculations were wrong |
| 09:40.37 | ckknight | it's not 10x faster |
| 09:40.44 | ckknight | it's only like 20% fater |
| 09:40.45 | ckknight | faster* |
| 09:40.50 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 09:40.53 | Nickenyfiken | 20% fater code :-P |
| 09:40.55 | ckknight | still worth it |
| 09:41.09 | Nickenyfiken | yeah 20% is good |
| 09:41.47 | ckknight | the loadstring trick is good |
| 09:43.24 | ckknight | I could probably use it in Parser-3.0 to speed it up |
| 09:43.44 | Silviu- | Elkano now is possible to make 3 groups for Ebbs ? i mean one with buffs one with debuffs one with weapon buffs :) |
| 09:45.35 | Roartindon | silviu: as many groups as you want |
| 09:45.46 | Silviu- | Oh, nice downloading ^^ |
| 09:45.57 | Nickenyfiken | Would be nice to have a timerbar core addon where different types plugin, buffs, debuffs, cooldowns, durations etc. |
| 09:46.21 | Silviu- | True :) |
| 09:47.31 | Roartindon | ckknight: If you want to be pedantic about performance, #stringVariable is quicker than stringVariable:len() :) |
| 09:47.53 | ckknight | I'm not too worried about it there |
| 09:47.58 | ckknight | as it's run once |
| 09:48.02 | ckknight | and looks nicer |
| 09:48.33 | Silviu- | On ptr Ace2 was first with 3 mb usage ^^ then Bt3 the TabletLib |
| 09:48.59 | Roartindon | ckknight: Just check, is the new dogtag happy with quotes used in the literal part of tags? |
| 09:49.18 | ckknight | no, there's no reason for it to be |
| 09:49.36 | ckknight | modifiers don't take parameters |
| 09:49.39 | Roartindon | ie: |
| 09:49.43 | Roartindon | "test"[name] |
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| 09:49.56 | Roartindon | I haven't tried it, but I think that may cause bugsack errors :) |
| 09:50.26 | ckknight | um |
| 09:50.27 | ckknight | why? |
| 09:50.42 | Roartindon | because when you loadstring |
| 09:50.48 | ckknight | I don't see why that would error |
| 09:50.49 | Roartindon | hmm.. |
| 09:50.51 | ckknight | I smartly use %q |
| 09:51.31 | Roartindon | that doesn't escape stuff does it? |
| 09:51.47 | Roartindon | it just puts quotes around it? |
| 09:52.07 | Silviu- | Roartindon what is tench ? ;) |
| 09:52.12 | Roartindon | weapon enchant |
| 09:52.16 | Silviu- | Oh ok :P |
| 09:52.41 | ckknight | it escapes, Roartindon |
| 09:52.43 | ckknight | lern2lua |
| 09:53.31 | Roartindon | eh, the lua wiki is woefully inaccurate |
| 09:53.36 | Roartindon | "An additional option %q puts quotes around a string. |
| 09:53.37 | Roartindon | " |
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| 09:55.32 | Elkano | Silviu-, temporary enchants |
| 09:55.38 | Dynom | then adjust it Roartindon :-) |
| 09:56.40 | Roartindon | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:57.13 | Dynom | you can just make a note too it "%q doesn't work (anymore)" and let it go for review |
| 09:57.34 | Silviu- | ckknight http://ace.pastey.net/13615 and http://ace.pastey.net/13616 |
| 09:58.46 | Silviu- | ah and |
| 09:58.46 | Silviu- | [2007/04/18 12:59:14-101-x1]: AceEvent-2.0-32527 (Ace2):323: [string "local DogTag = AceLibrary("DogTag-1.0");loc..."]:1: attempt to get length of global 't' (a nil value) |
| 09:58.58 | ckknight | k |
| 09:59.07 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r32980 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - bugfix, t => tmp |
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| 10:03.25 | Silviu- | Hmm |
| 10:03.44 | Silviu- | Your last commit to dogtag brings 73 errors in Bugsack and libs not getting loaded |
| 10:04.16 | Silviu- | Can`t paste them cause .. i only have them in chatwindow :) |
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| 10:05.40 | Roartindon | copy out of the chat window using prat? :) |
| 10:06.15 | Silviu- | ^^ |
| 10:06.23 | Worf | hmpf... just wondered why it's so quiet in here until i realised that i was on the wrong server when doing my /j #wowace |
| 10:06.26 | Silviu- | All libs are not gerrint loaded |
| 10:06.37 | Silviu- | getting* |
| 10:07.47 | Dynom | man I hate people who don't indent; wtb Python's indent rules for the mases |
| 10:09.22 | ckknight | lol |
| 10:09.28 | ckknight | yea, those are nice |
| 10:09.35 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r32981 10Aloft/ (AloftTag.lua AloftTags.rtf): |
| 10:09.35 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 10:09.35 | CIA-11 | - AloftTag now takes advantage of that ill-documented %q option. |
| 10:09.43 | Worf | Dynom: i'm feeling your pain |
| 10:10.23 | Dynom | :-( |
| 10:11.14 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, after having read that FF8 lets play thread from SA, I can't look at the name 'Worf' the same ever again. >< |
| 10:11.37 | Dynom | NightHawkTheSane: I have that with 'wand' in the harry-potter series |
| 10:12.09 | Dynom | there is a bash.org quote about that btw |
| 10:12.09 | Nickenyfiken | Python's indent rules? |
| 10:12.25 | NightHawkTheSane | there's a bash quote about everything. |
| 10:12.30 | Punkie` | Dynom: http://www.bash.org/?111338 :P |
| 10:12.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Hell, there's probably bash quotes about bash quotes. |
| 10:12.44 | NightHawkTheSane | (bonus points if you can link it to me >.>) |
| 10:12.49 | Dynom | Nickenyfiken: yeah, in python you are required to indent |
| 10:12.54 | Dynom | Punkie`: exactly ^^ |
| 10:13.07 | Nickenyfiken | Dynom: ah ok i didn't know that :-) |
| 10:13.08 | Dynom | I mean, wtf: "Harry pulling at his uncles sausage-like fingers with his left hand, his right maintaining a firm grip on his raised wang" |
| 10:13.31 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 10:13.34 | Dynom | "Oh, move over," Hermione snarled. She grabbed Harry's wang, tapped the lock, and whispered, 'Alohomora!" |
| 10:13.57 | Dynom | quite funny tbh |
| 10:13.59 | Punkie` | "Something silver-white, something enormous, erupted from the end of his wang" |
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| 10:18.38 | Dynom | Worf: it's just a bad episode of a terrible porno series of books |
| 10:18.45 | Dynom | aka Harry Potter |
| 10:19.04 | Dynom | Wouldn't be suprised if Ron Jeremy would be the man behind it |
| 10:19.21 | Worf | aha |
| 10:22.19 | beerke | anyone know how magtheridon is called in wowmodelview ? |
| 10:22.34 | [Ammo] | bigbellybeast |
| 10:22.37 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 10:22.41 | beerke | ... |
| 10:22.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Your mom |
| 10:23.06 | Dynom | I call it macdonald |
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| 10:25.30 | Daemona | hrm why isnt the acelocale bug in spamsentry getting fixed? *sigh* |
| 10:26.13 | Gagorian | Fix it then! :> |
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| 10:26.22 | Daemona | i got no fucking clue on lua :( |
| 10:26.40 | [Ammo] | today is a good day to get a clue |
| 10:26.42 | Daemona | i just idle here to look elitist and get the latest changes faster ;) |
| 10:28.44 | Silviu- | ckknight http://ace.pastey.net/13621 http://ace.pastey.net/13622 |
| 10:30.10 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r32982 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - make it so modifiers actually take the values properly. |
| 10:30.16 | ckknight | thanks, Silviu- |
| 10:31.05 | Silviu- | No problem, testing ;p |
| 10:33.03 | Silviu- | ckknight works now thank u |
| 10:33.10 | ckknight | :-) |
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| 10:47.44 | Dynom | man WAR looks cooool |
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| 10:52.43 | evl | Why haven't I tried FUbar_RogueTimerFu before |
| 10:52.46 | evl | it's bloody brilliant |
| 10:55.52 | knarf- | Antiarc any specific reason your armory tool is timing out? :/ it fails to open a stream to the amory page |
| 11:00.57 | Dynom | someone didn't use the socket_timeout calls |
| 11:02.02 | Nickenyfiken | Elkano: Flurry and Unleached Rage (Ehance Shaman) buffs that proccs does not have the bars moving down from right to left, just the numbers ticking down |
| 11:02.26 | Nickenyfiken | Or am i missing a setting somewhere hmm |
| 11:02.44 | Elkano | hmm... |
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| 11:04.06 | Nickenyfiken | They are a bit short, 8 and 14 secs |
| 11:04.25 | Nickenyfiken | If thats any help |
| 11:05.51 | Elkano | so it does show a timer but no bar? |
| 11:06.48 | Nickenyfiken | Shows everything excapt a bar going from filled to depleted |
| 11:06.57 | Nickenyfiken | Just like a buff with no time |
| 11:07.20 | Nickenyfiken | But it is actualy showing the time ticking down |
| 11:07.46 | Elkano | maybe it is returned as being 'untilcancelled' by the API? |
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| 11:08.43 | Elkano | do you have devtools installed? |
| 11:08.58 | Nickenyfiken | nope |
| 11:09.31 | Elkano | does :Print() handle tables? |
| 11:09.47 | CIA-11 | 03sbu * r32983 10Tattle/ (Gladiator_EUCyclone/EUCyclone.lua data.lua): Tattle: completed EU Cyclone |
| 11:10.13 | Nickenyfiken | think so yes |
| 11:10.19 | Nargiddley | :PrintLiteral() for tables |
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| 11:10.29 | Nickenyfiken | what table you want printed? |
| 11:11.04 | Elkano | ElkBuffBars.buffdata once te buff is upon you |
| 11:11.07 | Pneu | AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral(table) |
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| 11:11.22 | Nickenyfiken | ElkBuffBars.buffdata? |
| 11:11.32 | Elkano | yes |
| 11:11.35 | Nickenyfiken | ah sorry missed you wroite it :-P |
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| 11:12.48 | Nickenyfiken | How the hell do i copy from chat? :-P |
| 11:13.05 | renchap | use prat |
| 11:13.17 | Elkano | or dump it |
| 11:13.34 | Nickenyfiken | uhm timemax = 599.904 looks weird |
| 11:13.42 | Elkano | 10min ^^ |
| 11:14.17 | ckknight | http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Image:Wizardmudkip.png |
| 11:14.20 | Elkano | timemax is simply the max known timeleft returned for a buff of that name |
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| 11:15.51 | Nickenyfiken | ok |
| 11:18.19 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah well the bar looks depleted but i think there is small part of it filled |
| 11:18.38 | Nickenyfiken | so i guess 8/600 is filled |
| 11:18.43 | Nickenyfiken | so it looks almost depleted |
| 11:18.44 | beerke | can you set the amount of buffs per line in pitbull ? |
| 11:19.32 | CIA-11 | 03fenlis * r32984 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 11:19.32 | CIA-11 | DogTag-1.0 : |
| 11:19.32 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:19.44 | Elkano | Nickenyfiken, in that case it means the API returned the wrong time at some point :/ |
| 11:19.55 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah i guess |
| 11:20.16 | Nickenyfiken | I looked really close now and i could actually see the small part filled disappear |
| 11:20.32 | Nickenyfiken | What API call is it? |
| 11:24.14 | Elkano | GetPlayerBuffName(id) and GetPlayerBuffTimeLeft(id) |
| 11:25.38 | Nickenyfiken | yeah but how do you get the max? from GetPlayerBuffTimeLeft(id) right when you get the buff? |
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| 11:26.33 | Gagorian | yes |
| 11:26.37 | Gagorian | ! |
| 11:27.09 | Elkano | well, as I said I store the timeleft in a table and then compare. is the timeleft returned smaller I use the stored value else I use the returned value and update the table |
| 11:27.25 | Gagorian | will be easier after 2.1.0 for self-casted ones.. cause you can always get full duration |
| 11:27.25 | [Ammo] | it'll be easier after 2.1 |
| 11:27.33 | Gagorian | too slow [Ammo]! |
| 11:27.33 | drin | :) |
| 11:27.35 | [Ammo] | bah |
| 11:28.03 | Elkano | ammo, also for GetPlayerBuff*? |
| 11:28.05 | Nickenyfiken | Elkano: Is it stored permanantly or will it be cleared when i RL UI? |
| 11:28.10 | syeren | [Ammo], did you do the new debuff aura posistion ,or was it Nymbia? |
| 11:28.23 | Elkano | stored in SVs and wiped on client patches |
| 11:28.35 | [Ammo] | nymbia |
| 11:28.39 | syeren | Because if you have debuff auras and buff auras above the target, the debuff auras go behind the unit frame -_- |
| 11:28.42 | syeren | Which sucks obviously. |
| 11:28.56 | Elkano | I store it since people kept complaining that there was a wrong maxtime used after login |
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| 11:29.24 | [Ammo] | syeren: you might have to set the growth to a different direction in the auras module |
| 11:29.29 | Nickenyfiken | bah ok, well my maxdurations must have been fucked up at some point then |
| 11:29.41 | [Ammo] | syeren: either that or the positioning in the ABF layout is wrong |
| 11:29.47 | Elkano | Nickenyfiken, that's one of the two known bugs atm :/ |
| 11:29.52 | syeren | I have Left and Up on both Ammo, and it worked fine before Nymbia's "fixes." |
| 11:29.53 | syeren | >_> |
| 11:30.01 | [Ammo] | heeh |
| 11:30.04 | [Ammo] | then I dunno |
| 11:30.05 | Nickenyfiken | Elkano: well just wait for 2.1 then |
| 11:30.05 | Elkano | my "Mark of the Wild" got screwed up, too :/ |
| 11:30.27 | Nickenyfiken | Option to clear those saved valued maybe? |
| 11:30.33 | Nickenyfiken | values* |
| 11:30.58 | Elkano | 2.1 won't help that much until it works for GetPlayerBuffTimeLeft, too |
| 11:31.46 | sbu | HAHA |
| 11:31.47 | sbu | Powerheal 4000 / cloth / 154 armour / 8 stamina / 33 intellect |
| 11:31.47 | sbu | 23 spirit / +90 heal / 1*blue / 1*meta / Socket bonus 4 int |
| 11:31.48 | sbu | wtb |
| 11:31.48 | sbu | :) |
| 11:31.55 | Elkano | but tests seem to indicate that the values differ: target yourself on PTR and check the times for target buffs |
| 11:32.27 | [Ammo] | sbu: too bad it's engineering |
| 11:32.35 | sbu | i know :p |
| 11:32.37 | Gagorian | Why not use UnitBuff( "player", index )? |
| 11:33.24 | [Ammo] | after 2.1 that would be the way to go |
| 11:33.35 | Elkano | Gagorian, I don't know if it will return times for buffs cast by other players |
| 11:33.40 | Gagorian | It won't |
| 11:34.02 | Gagorian | Just need to mix the two methods |
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| 11:34.42 | [Ammo] | if you can't get the time from UnitBuff try and get it from GetPlayerBuffTimeLeft etc |
| 11:34.52 | Elkano | mixing isn't fun and could lead to more bugs :/ |
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| 11:35.13 | [Ammo] | naah |
| 11:35.15 | Gagorian | Umm, it's very simple imo |
| 11:35.26 | [Ammo] | not if you make a good method and always call that method to get the info |
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| 11:35.59 | Gagorian | name, rank, icon, count, duration, timeLeft = UnitBuff("player", i) |
| 11:36.05 | Gagorian | if duration then |
| 11:36.06 | Gagorian | use it |
| 11:36.09 | Gagorian | else |
| 11:36.18 | Gagorian | Just GetPlayerBuffTimeLeft( i ) |
| 11:36.27 | Gagorian | Or whatever |
| 11:37.00 | [Ammo] | we have faith in you Elkano :) |
| 11:37.01 | Nickenyfiken | duration = timepassed + timeleft :-P |
| 11:37.08 | [Ammo] | no duration = maxduration |
| 11:37.13 | Gagorian | indeed |
| 11:37.13 | Nickenyfiken | start your own timer for timepassed :-P |
| 11:37.22 | Gagorian | duration will always return max duration |
| 11:37.32 | Gagorian | if the buff is self-casted |
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| 11:37.37 | [Ammo] | oh my lunch has arrived |
| 11:37.41 | [Ammo] | time for friet oorlog |
| 11:37.44 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 11:37.48 | Gagorian | Another option I would personally consider is making a small table for common raid buffs |
| 11:38.04 | MoonWolf | dutch dishes make no sense |
| 11:38.04 | Gagorian | Always store correct values there |
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| 11:38.46 | Gagorian | Then it wont bug for the common stuff, then just use either the new API for self-casted buffs |
| 11:38.57 | Nickenyfiken | Are there no buff duration lib? |
| 11:39.00 | Gagorian | or your method for uncommon buffs casted by different players |
| 11:40.08 | Gagorian | Not as far as I know |
| 11:40.17 | Elkano | Nickenyfiken, some (de-)buffs can have different durations due to talents :/ |
| 11:41.00 | Gagorian | Well, you obviously can't use table values for those.. Then just store max durations |
| 11:41.21 | Gagorian | And this all would be made trivial with a simple API call :P |
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| 11:42.21 | Elkano | well, ask slouken to add a function ^^ (and point out that most likely on PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED some API could be returning incorrect values) |
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| 11:50.27 | Nickenyfiken | Is Bhattu on IRC? |
| 11:50.33 | Nickenyfiken | ~seen Bhattu |
| 11:51.06 | purl | bhattu <n=Dean@18-20-64.66.res.logixcom.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 181d 19h 58m 43s ago, saying: 'However, the easiest way and Blizzard's way are probably not identical.'. |
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| 11:51.49 | Nickenyfiken | heh |
| 11:58.21 | Gagorian | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 11:58.42 | purl | cncfanatics <n=cvcncfan@41.87-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11d 19h 27m 7s ago, saying: 'it sucks though :;('. |
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| 11:58.49 | Gagorian | Slacker! |
| 11:58.49 | Sole | man |
| 11:58.56 | Sole | ending a night with 130 less rating than you began with blows |
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| 11:59.07 | Sole | started at 2200, now at 2070 =\ |
| 11:59.19 | Gagorian | I'd say l2p, but I won't cause I'm.. nice. |
| 11:59.19 | Sole | fucking cheese warrior/pally teams |
| 11:59.36 | Sole | go kill a warrior/pally and come back to me |
| 12:00.02 | Sole | they should have their balls eaten by ferrets for even playing such a cheese spec |
| 12:02.22 | NightHawkTheSane | you know what I hate about blackheart? the fact that I can die, and not be able to -do- anything about it. |
| 12:02.37 | Sole | seriously, wtb 2.1 so mages cant double ice block |
| 12:02.40 | winkiller | random luck fight |
| 12:02.53 | Sole | blackheart is a shit fight |
| 12:03.10 | [Ammo] | he's the MCer in SL right? |
| 12:03.13 | winkiller | once we wiped because both rogues killed the resto dtruid in like 5sec |
| 12:03.14 | Sole | yeh |
| 12:03.18 | winkiller | with a few lucky crits |
| 12:03.18 | [Ammo] | haha he pwns |
| 12:03.23 | NightHawkTheSane | if it wasnt so easy to be royally screwed by pure luck, it'd be a fucking awesome fight |
| 12:03.29 | [Ammo] | bloody funny fight |
| 12:05.05 | Sole | wtb 2.1 so mages cant do their double ice block bullshit |
| 12:05.07 | [Ammo] | most of the time we have a laugh on vent |
| 12:05.25 | [Ammo] | specially when someone gets creamed |
| 12:05.34 | NightHawkTheSane | [Ammo]: when i've done it with my guild, its been great. Half a dozen pugs who -cant- get past that fight have soured me to it a bit |
| 12:05.47 | [Ammo] | I don't do pugs |
| 12:06.00 | NightHawkTheSane | I dont have much of a chocie with this character |
| 12:06.02 | hugo | lo |
| 12:06.07 | Sole | I do, my guild barely does heroics anymore |
| 12:06.07 | [Ammo] | pug means wasting your time |
| 12:06.18 | hugo | btw one out of topic do anyone use onshare? is it secure ? :) |
| 12:06.25 | Sole | theyve all pretty much got whatever they want, just need badges |
| 12:06.55 | Sole | so I try not to instance at all anymore if it means going with a pug |
| 12:07.25 | [Ammo] | my playtime is limited to 2-3 nights a week |
| 12:07.26 | Nickenyfiken | I have only had time to make one heroic run :-( |
| 12:07.36 | [Ammo] | of which 2 nights is raiding |
| 12:07.48 | [Ammo] | so I'm not wasting that potential spare night on pugs |
| 12:07.57 | Sole | yeah you shouldnt |
| 12:08.19 | Sole | wow so my guildy, a rogue/warlock team just lost 50 rating to a warrior/pally team |
| 12:08.26 | Sole | sucks to be in the 2200s |
| 12:08.30 | Gagorian | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5720.0 :G |
| 12:08.47 | Gagorian | Yes, blame the addons! |
| 12:08.57 | [Ammo] | well there is acrashbug with the portraits :p |
| 12:09.06 | [Ammo] | so I guess that's what is causing it |
| 12:09.15 | Gagorian | Blizzard's fault though |
| 12:09.53 | ckknight | [Ammo]: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96074800&sid=1 |
| 12:09.57 | Sole | ahh, Ive written addons that cause a fatal crash |
| 12:10.01 | Sole | Im THAT good |
| 12:10.23 | Sole | bloody hard to troubleshoot that :( |
| 12:11.05 | [Ammo] | ckknight: you're lucky to be on US forums |
| 12:11.14 | ckknight | I suppose |
| 12:11.19 | [Ammo] | us EU people talk on deaf ears on our forum regarding PTR bugs and stuff |
| 12:11.28 | ckknight | one of the perks of being American |
| 12:11.28 | [Ammo] | 'we can't have people reading other langauges' |
| 12:11.50 | [Ammo] | apparantly english isn't readable for american devs :p |
| 12:12.05 | winkiller | lol |
| 12:12.05 | abbat_w | i like ptr sheep... |
| 12:12.12 | winkiller | BE isn't AE |
| 12:12.18 | abbat_w | player in sheep didn't regen hp in sheep ;) |
| 12:12.18 | winkiller | compare guaranty and guarantee :P |
| 12:12.30 | abbat_w | pff... color and colour ;) |
| 12:12.34 | [Ammo] | still they should be able to make sense of it |
| 12:12.39 | Gagorian | defense and defence! |
| 12:12.48 | [Ammo] | Gagorian: it's spelled: D-Fens |
| 12:12.58 | [Ammo] | get the movie reference.... |
| 12:12.59 | Sole | tomato and tomato |
| 12:13.07 | abbat_w | Sole! |
| 12:13.16 | abbat_w | Sole, can i ask you about antagonist ;) |
| 12:13.16 | winkiller | lol |
| 12:13.19 | Sole | what? |
| 12:13.21 | abbat_w | Just a few questions ;) |
| 12:13.22 | Sole | < BAD MOOD |
| 12:13.23 | [Ammo] | hint, it's a licenseplate |
| 12:13.29 | abbat_w | About filters |
| 12:13.34 | Sole | I LOST 130 RATING WAAH |
| 12:13.39 | Sole | ok go ahead :'( |
| 12:13.51 | abbat_w | I make filters for cooldowns but i can't understand how filters work |
| 12:13.56 | [Ammo] | falling down, best movie ever :p |
| 12:14.02 | winkiller | tis ok |
| 12:14.10 | abbat_w | I check cooldown which i won't to see, divine shield for example |
| 12:14.22 | abbat_w | But Antagonist show ds in cooldowns anyway |
| 12:14.28 | Sole | da fck |
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| 12:14.55 | abbat_w | Are filters in work or i do something wrong? |
| 12:14.56 | Gagorian | [Ammo]: Yeah I've seen it. With Michael Douglas? |
| 12:15.02 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:15.08 | [Ammo] | his car license plate is D-Fens |
| 12:15.24 | Sole | abbat_w: well I havent bug tested filters too heavily |
| 12:15.34 | Sole | abbat_w: it seemed like basic stuff so I figured it should work |
| 12:15.40 | Sole | abbat_w: I dont use em personally though ^^ |
| 12:15.52 | Sole | abbat_w: I wrote the data files, every timer in there Im interested in |
| 12:15.54 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm how do i stop checking out something with Tortoise? |
| 12:16.02 | Sole | Cancel? |
| 12:16.07 | Nickenyfiken | do i have to delete all the hidden .svn folders? |
| 12:16.22 | abbat_w | eh ;( |
| 12:16.27 | [Ammo] | delete the root .svn folder from the adodn |
| 12:16.35 | abbat_w | Sole, thanks anyway. Maybe i do something wrong then |
| 12:16.40 | Sole | abbat_w: I'll have a looksee |
| 12:16.43 | [Ammo] | that should be enough Nickenyfiken |
| 12:16.47 | Gagorian | Would it be hard for Blizzard to implement a functionality breaking possibly infinite loops? |
| 12:16.51 | abbat_w | Sole, checked spell should be filtered, i |
| 12:16.56 | abbat_w | Sole, checked spell should be filtered, i'm right? |
| 12:16.59 | Sole | abbat_w: yes |
| 12:17.06 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah thats what i usually do but there should be a more straigth forward way... |
| 12:17.22 | Sole | abbat_w: now, want to put me back in time about 2 hours so I dont lose 130 rating? |
| 12:17.37 | abbat_w | No no |
| 12:18.09 | Sole | oh well, got the rest of the week to get into into top 20 teams |
| 12:18.25 | abbat_w | I ask about filters because i start arena and won't see some cd's like ds, di, cos and something else |
| 12:18.28 | hugo | anyone on EU can login ? |
| 12:18.42 | Sole | abbat_w: you want to see the cds? |
| 12:18.51 | abbat_w | But i must monitor some critical cooldowns like grounding totem |
| 12:19.12 | Sole | abbat_w: my grounding totem cooldown works, I saw it tonight |
| 12:19.27 | Sole | abbat_w: so do you want to see the spell or not? |
| 12:19.37 | abbat_w | Sure |
| 12:19.54 | Sole | if a spell is filtered, it will NOT show up |
| 12:19.54 | [Ammo] | Nickenyfiken: well you can svn export once |
| 12:19.59 | [Ammo] | instead of checkout |
| 12:20.13 | Sole | check the cooldown limit option, |
| 12:20.29 | abbat_w | I setup it to max (600) |
| 12:20.35 | Sole | hmm |
| 12:21.12 | abbat_w | In typical BG (wsg/ab/av) i need to see divine/pom/ap cooldowns |
| 12:21.33 | Sole | you should |
| 12:21.47 | abbat_w | But for arena it's not important because to long cd and we win or loose before these spells can be used again |
| 12:22.18 | abbat_w | And btw |
| 12:22.23 | Sole | it should be working dammit |
| 12:22.31 | abbat_w | Antagonist with Waterfall very nice |
| 12:22.35 | Sole | ^^ |
| 12:22.42 | Sole | yeah I like it |
| 12:22.49 | sbu | ahh Sole |
| 12:22.58 | CIA-11 | 03nickenyfiken * r32985 10Chronometer/Data/Shaman.lua: |
| 12:22.58 | CIA-11 | Chronometer: |
| 12:22.58 | CIA-11 | - Added Shaman Earth Elemental Totem, Fire Elemental Totem, Bloodlust and Heroism. |
| 12:23.00 | Sole | hello my eurofriend |
| 12:23.16 | abbat_w | Sole, i check again and make screenshots. Maybe i wrong or maybe some other plugins do something wrong |
| 12:23.54 | Sole | abbat_w: k, Antagonist is a finished project. As far as Im aware there arent any bugs. |
| 12:24.01 | Sole | abbat_w: maybe its just in your head? |
| 12:24.07 | abbat_w | no ;) |
| 12:24.19 | abbat_w | i turn off pom and cos and ds cooldowns |
| 12:24.22 | Sole | sbu: I cant use private chat :( |
| 12:24.36 | hugo | ckknight are you here |
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| 12:24.41 | abbat_w | But damn, rogues always spam my bars with cos cooldowns ;) |
| 12:24.44 | Sole | you mean you add them to the filter? |
| 12:24.45 | sbu | but you can read Sole ;o |
| 12:24.49 | ckknight | hugo: I have never left you, child |
| 12:24.52 | abbat_w | Sole, yep |
| 12:24.59 | hugo | ckknight im using the custom text: [classification][difficulty][level][classcolor][smartclass] and now updated pitbull and |
| 12:25.01 | hugo | hehe :D |
| 12:25.10 | hugo | and [difficulty] don't work anymore |
| 12:25.20 | ckknight | difficultycolor |
| 12:25.20 | [Ammo] | it's not difficultycolor |
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| 12:25.22 | [Ammo] | isn't it |
| 12:25.27 | [Ammo] | not => now |
| 12:25.31 | hugo | gotcha ;d |
| 12:25.41 | ckknight | hugo: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0 |
| 12:25.50 | hugo | thanks |
| 12:26.01 | Sole | sbu: I'll think about it while talking to mother nature brb 1 min |
| 12:26.27 | hugo | btw is it now possible to make enemy cast bar undockable and invisible ? |
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| 12:27.43 | Nickenyfiken | [Ammo]: Ah i see, i didn't really know how Export was different from Checkout |
| 12:27.44 | ckknight | you mean disable it? |
| 12:28.07 | [Ammo] | export exports without an option to update |
| 12:28.17 | [Ammo] | it's basically how the .zip's are created as well |
| 12:29.13 | hugo | no |
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| 12:29.40 | Nickenyfiken | hugo: you want it to be hidden until your target cast something? |
| 12:29.43 | hugo | ckknight i mean undock from the target frame, cause the enemy cast bar if enabled resize the whole frame and portrait |
| 12:29.53 | hugo | i woul like to undock it and move it as alone frame |
| 12:30.00 | ckknight | no, there's no way |
| 12:30.20 | hugo | like blizard frame to have it beneath buffs n debufs |
| 12:30.21 | hugo | i see |
| 12:30.58 | hugo | Nickenyfiken yeah or invisible, but it will resize the whole frame anyway right ? |
| 12:31.29 | Sole | hugo: Just get antagonist yo |
| 12:31.52 | hugo | ckknight and is it possible to disable it and use original blizard enemy cast bar on pitbull target frame ? |
| 12:32.00 | ckknight | you can |
| 12:32.03 | ckknight | wait |
| 12:32.03 | ckknight | no |
| 12:32.07 | ckknight | no, you can't |
| 12:32.08 | hugo | ok |
| 12:32.11 | Sole | sbu: If nymbia can extract the team info for us then I'll definetly try it |
| 12:32.29 | sbu | hmm you dont need team info |
| 12:32.36 | hugo | my problem is the casting icon too small , and if i make it big to see, the whole frame too big ;d that's it all |
| 12:32.49 | Sole | sbu: so how will I know the unknown classes? |
| 12:32.51 | ckknight | you're too picky |
| 12:32.56 | hugo | indeed |
| 12:32.57 | sbu | just get all players with same rating as target |
| 12:33.02 | sbu | same rating = same team |
| 12:33.08 | hugo | ;p |
| 12:33.15 | Sole | ok |
| 12:33.24 | Sole | I'll have to cycle through em a bit |
| 12:33.27 | Sole | but yeah doable |
| 12:33.50 | sbu | i know, team info would be much better - but it is already that much data :/ |
| 12:34.13 | Sole | yeah its a lot of data |
| 12:35.21 | CIA-11 | 03whitetooth * r32986 10RatingBuster/ (About RatingBuster.txt RatingBuster.lua): |
| 12:35.21 | CIA-11 | RatingBuster: |
| 12:35.21 | CIA-11 | - Fixed MP5NC, HP5OC summary |
| 12:36.14 | Saroz | Give login servers ffs |
| 12:36.16 | Saroz | cant code |
| 12:36.52 | Punkie` | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:44.14 | TheKarn | how do we force WAU to use no-exts again? |
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| 12:46.52 | hugo | btw ckknight absolute short don't work ? |
| 12:47.01 | hugo | it show 9311/9311 |
| 12:47.22 | hugo | [curhp:short]/[maxhp:short] |
| 12:48.37 | hugo | ahh value greater then 10000 i see |
| 12:48.38 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r32987 10FuBar_CombatTimeFu/FuBar_CombatTimeFu.toc: FuBar_CombatTimeFu: Set correct category |
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| 12:49.36 | hugo | it's :veryshort |
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| 12:53.33 | syeren | # Monsters will now attack players who are mining mineral nodes near to them, even if they didn't notice them previously. |
| 12:53.37 | syeren | WOW HUNTERS ARE GAY. |
| 12:54.46 | haste | no more mingin in outlands with a L62 rogue :( |
| 12:55.14 | NightHawkTheSane | mingin? is that like dueling outside IF? :P |
| 12:57.11 | hugo | :D |
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| 12:58.49 | hugo | one question please, if i use [red][missinghp:hidezero:negate:veryshort] how can i make it work only if the hp missing is => 500hp ? |
| 12:59.13 | NightHawkTheSane | afaik, you can't |
| 12:59.21 | hugo | so it dont show -67 |
| 12:59.28 | hugo | these pathetic numbers |
| 13:01.37 | kenlyric | syeren: that's a change directed squarely at people like me, who farm from the sky and avoid combat at all costs :) |
| 13:01.57 | kenlyric | combat takes away valuable farming time. |
| 13:01.57 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r32988 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: Core: New API; RegisterBossOption, used to register custom boss options that can be available for all boss modules, like bosskill and proximity. |
| 13:03.52 | Saroz | Hrrrm |
| 13:04.01 | Saroz | I fucked up and made a savedvariable on 128MB |
| 13:04.03 | Saroz | interesting |
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| 13:05.34 | kenlyric | hugo: omg! -67 hp!? Highest Rank Gheal incoming! |
| 13:05.52 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r32989 10BigWigs/Outland/Gruul.lua: BigWigs: Gruul: Remove the frFR translation as well. |
| 13:06.14 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r32990 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Curator.lua: BigWigs: Curator: Remove the frFR translation as well. |
| 13:07.29 | Saroz | orr.. I found a bug in Ace that floods a savedvariable with tons of data |
| 13:07.29 | Saroz | cool |
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| 13:08.13 | [Ammo] | I say you fucked up :p |
| 13:08.37 | Saroz | It's flooding a list of functions to saved vars |
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| 13:08.39 | Saroz | cant be right :) |
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| 13:09.20 | [Ammo] | hmm: http://www.pyzamstuff.com/funpix/misc/free_candy_van.jpg |
| 13:09.48 | Saroz | Stack overflow in AceDB-2.0.lua:318 |
| 13:09.49 | Saroz | :p |
| 13:11.02 | kenlyric | stop overflowing the stack, you insensitive clod. |
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| 13:12.30 | Saroz | ah lol |
| 13:12.43 | Saroz | i set RegisterDB to the name of the mod variable |
| 13:12.45 | Saroz | not clever |
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| 13:14.39 | TheKarn | hmm this RaidTargets thing in pitbull is not what i expected ... but it kinda is |
| 13:14.55 | TheKarn | is there anyway to get the unitframes of all the raidtargets (the ones with funny icons etc) |
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| 13:17.08 | [Ammo] | TheKarn: nope |
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| 13:17.30 | [Ammo] | Saroz: seems I was right, you fucked up :p |
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| 13:23.23 | JJSheets | ckknight, ping |
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| 13:25.28 | `-FISKER_Q\ | lol fail |
| 13:27.02 | Saroz | someone fucked up Noteshare |
| 13:27.03 | Saroz | -.- |
| 13:27.16 | `-FISKER_Q\ | someone fucked up valve |
| 13:27.23 | JJSheets | someone fucked up |
| 13:27.36 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Faggot is distributing cc's |
| 13:27.39 | `-FISKER_Q\ | so i better go call my bank |
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| 13:28.43 | kenlyric | Fisker? |
| 13:28.49 | kenlyric | I know a valve! |
| 13:28.51 | [Ammo] | fisker you mean valve got hacked and seomeone has their CC's? |
| 13:29.25 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Valve got hacked, took their financial info, their database of customers and so on |
| 13:29.28 | `-FISKER_Q\ | including cc's |
| 13:29.30 | sbu | ... :/ |
| 13:29.47 | `-FISKER_Q\ | http://i16.tinypic.com/4dcv1jk.jpg <-lot of money :( |
| 13:29.47 | kenlyric | what's your bank gonna know? |
| 13:29.47 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r32991 10BigWigs/Extras/Proximity.lua: BigWigs: Proximity: Bugfixes and cleanup. |
| 13:30.11 | kenlyric | or are you preemptive cancel guy? :) |
| 13:30.13 | JJSheets | how to cacnel the card a nd get him a new one... or stop weird payments. |
| 13:30.16 | `-FISKER_Q\ | of course |
| 13:30.57 | `-FISKER_Q\ | My credit card details are compromised, no need to wait for it :P |
| 13:31.44 | JJSheets | lol |
| 13:31.44 | JJSheets | no guts no glory `-FISKER_Q\ |
| 13:31.44 | kenlyric | your credit card details are compromised by your credit card :) |
| 13:31.44 | `-FISKER_Q\ | indeed |
| 13:31.44 | `-FISKER_Q\ | :O |
| 13:31.45 | JJSheets | tho I'm not sure that really applies... :p |
| 13:32.02 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Technically i could not give a damn |
| 13:32.03 | kenlyric | I just make the assumption that my information is in the hand of criminals already. |
| 13:32.06 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Banks are required by law to reimburse any loss |
| 13:32.12 | kenlyric | so, I get an email every time someone charges more than $1 to any of my cards. |
| 13:32.22 | `-FISKER_Q\ | can't get that here :o |
| 13:32.28 | kenlyric | eeeh |
| 13:32.57 | krka | CC:s are insecure by design |
| 13:32.58 | krka | :( |
| 13:33.16 | `-FISKER_Q\ | yeah |
| 13:33.23 | `-FISKER_Q\ | They introduced chips in our cards a year ago |
| 13:33.26 | `-FISKER_Q\ | "OMG SECURITY" |
| 13:33.34 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Why is the magnetic stripe still their though? |
| 13:33.37 | `-FISKER_Q\ | FAIL |
| 13:33.45 | krka | as long as you can make purchases from simply reading the numbers, it's horribly broken |
| 13:33.47 | JJSheets | backwards compatibility |
| 13:33.48 | JJSheets | lol |
| 13:33.55 | `-FISKER_Q\ | indeed JJSheets :P |
| 13:34.11 | `-FISKER_Q\ | But we all know that no security works with backwards compatibillity for the design flaws |
| 13:34.20 | JJSheets | heheh :) |
| 13:34.23 | Punkie` | `-FISKER_Q\: is there i link for this valvehaxxors? |
| 13:34.48 | `-FISKER_Q\ | http://emp.damage-web.net/viewtopic.php?p=62590 |
| 13:34.55 | JJSheets | I have had one CC in my entire life... I now have none, and just about refuse to get one. |
| 13:35.03 | `-FISKER_Q\ | They even got their security certificated |
| 13:35.15 | sbu | oh, nice http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7081-GemCounter0.2.4.html |
| 13:35.19 | krka | for online transactions, your bank should generate a temporary account with a fixed amount of money in |
| 13:35.24 | krka | then you use that |
| 13:35.28 | Chompers | i needed a bank account for my uni loans, they offered me load of credit cards :/ |
| 13:35.30 | krka | would even be backwards compatible |
| 13:35.41 | Chompers | why? im a poor student how would i ever pay them back |
| 13:35.41 | kenlyric | JJSheets: meh... living in fear of the criminals means they've won! |
| 13:35.43 | JJSheets | krka, Think of the FEES man! My God!! |
| 13:35.52 | krka | no fees! :) |
| 13:36.05 | JJSheets | kenlyric, I don't live in fear of the criminals, I live in fear of my inability to quit charging shit. |
| 13:36.12 | JJSheets | :) |
| 13:36.42 | kenlyric | JJSheets: that's why god made debit cards. Eventually it goes to 0! |
| 13:36.50 | JJSheets | krka, they'd probably tack on a cash advance charge for it. :) |
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| 13:37.08 | JJSheets | kenlyric, but then I'd have no cash... to hell with that. :) |
| 13:37.25 | kenlyric | what's... cash? |
| 13:37.31 | JJSheets | oy |
| 13:37.31 | kenlyric | is it some sort of unicorn? |
| 13:39.01 | kenlyric | there's a donut place in town that only takes cash. They are completely worth having to handle legal tender. |
| 13:39.08 | kenlyric | they are the only ones. |
| 13:39.43 | JJSheets | I'm one of those pseudo paranoids... if I can't buy it with cash I don't wanna buy it. |
| 13:40.10 | JJSheets | Hell... I can't think of the last time I wrote out a check too... |
| 13:40.16 | JJSheets | damn I'm backwards... |
| 13:40.17 | JJSheets | lol |
| 13:40.33 | kenlyric | I haven't written a check... couple years at least. |
| 13:40.45 | JJSheets | right, but you have CC's. |
| 13:40.56 | kenlyric | I don't buy normal stuff with CCs. |
| 13:40.57 | JJSheets | I've used cash only for about three years now... |
| 13:41.02 | kenlyric | I use a debit card. |
| 13:41.05 | JJSheets | lol |
| 13:41.10 | JJSheets | same thing. :) |
| 13:41.21 | JJSheets | slightly different results. |
| 13:41.36 | TheKarn | not really |
| 13:41.41 | TheKarn | debit card != credit card |
| 13:41.43 | kenlyric | no, my debit card has a floating limit of whatever is in my bank account (not much) my credit card has a limit in the 10k range. |
| 13:42.18 | JJSheets | works the same, one gets you in debt much faster. |
| 13:42.23 | kenlyric | I hate the entire concept of cash. It's like stone age man. |
| 13:42.32 | JJSheets | other than that, no real difference. :) |
| 13:42.43 | JJSheets | Ughh.... Zugzug Lana. |
| 13:42.51 | JJSheets | Atuk!!!! |
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| 13:42.55 | kenlyric | I want my credit card implanted in my hand, like those chicks on CSI |
| 13:42.55 | yacoob | kenlyric, wise words. I'll be happy to help you get rid of it. Send all cash you have to my address. |
| 13:43.10 | JJSheets | yacoob, lmao |
| 13:43.12 | Chompers | What chicks on csi? |
| 13:43.15 | kenlyric | yacoob: I only ever have cash when I want to buy donuts. |
| 13:43.23 | kenlyric | I can send you donuts. |
| 13:43.26 | kenlyric | best in the world. |
| 13:43.27 | TheKarn | mmm donuts |
| 13:44.11 | kenlyric | Chompers: I don't remember... they were club bunnies are something (not a lot of pockets).I was like "WTB" |
| 13:44.18 | yacoob | roll the donuts over here! |
| 13:44.35 | kenlyric | to understand why I hate cash so much, You'd have to understand how frequently I lose shit. |
| 13:44.43 | JJSheets | kenlyric, lol |
| 13:45.05 | JJSheets | Keys and Cash... always keep those and you can lose damn near anything else. ;) |
| 13:45.26 | kenlyric | see, I cut out 1/2 of that :) |
| 13:45.34 | kenlyric | just now I need the keys... |
| 13:45.35 | JJSheets | lol |
| 13:45.37 | yacoob | JJSheets, credit/debit card? :D |
| 13:45.43 | kenlyric | computer in my brain that starts all my cars, please. |
| 13:45.56 | kenlyric | fuck, is the future yet? |
| 13:45.58 | JJSheets | yacoob, well, yeah, for you newfangled young'uns that have them |
| 13:46.00 | kenlyric | *is it |
| 13:46.03 | yacoob | of course, wise thief steals only the card, leaving the wallet, increasing the time between being spotted. |
| 13:46.16 | yacoob | s/between/to/ |
| 13:46.55 | Elkano | \o/ 70 finnaly :) |
| 13:47.34 | deltron | http://war-en.curse-gaming.com/general-news/official-news/1593/guild-beta-access-program/ |
| 13:47.37 | deltron | <3 |
| 13:47.45 | yacoob | /ctcp send Elkano life |
| 13:47.57 | deltron | oh man i forgot new nin cd came out yesterday |
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| 13:48.55 | kenlyric | deltron... it did? |
| 13:49.01 | kenlyric | what rock am I living under? |
| 13:49.15 | deltron | yeah :D |
| 13:49.16 | kenlyric | I managed to miss the new tolkien book too. |
| 13:49.23 | yacoob | no way?! |
| 13:49.25 | kenlyric | even though I've know about it for a year. |
| 13:49.29 | yacoob | THEY RAISED HIM FROM DEAD? |
| 13:49.35 | deltron | same rock I'm living under also |
| 13:49.37 | kenlyric | Gods don't die, fool. |
| 13:49.49 | yacoob | they just change their plane of existence? |
| 13:49.56 | kenlyric | exactly. |
| 13:50.06 | evl | excuse me here |
| 13:50.10 | yacoob | but seriously, what book? |
| 13:50.12 | evl | Why all this talk and no commit messages |
| 13:50.17 | evl | Get back to work |
| 13:50.21 | deltron | lol |
| 13:50.24 | evl | I need an addon that does pancakes |
| 13:50.28 | kenlyric | The Children of Hurin. |
| 13:50.35 | deltron | yacoob: http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/books/04/17/review.tolkien.ap/index.html |
| 13:50.37 | kenlyric | If you've read Unfinished Tales, you've seen the bulk of it already. |
| 13:50.48 | yacoob | evl, with all your respect, I've just finished leading very difficult course :) |
| 13:50.58 | evl | yacoob: IN FAPPING?! |
| 13:51.07 | yacoob | you have no idea 8) |
| 13:51.14 | evl | lol, touché |
| 13:51.58 | yacoob | I teach ones who later create your mobile bill :P |
| 13:53.21 | evl | nvm work pays |
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| 13:57.32 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r32992 10Fubar_AlchemyFu/: Fubar_AlchemyFu: Track amount of procs and total amount of pots made with Alchemy |
| 13:58.29 | kenlyric | oooooh |
| 14:00.58 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r32993 10BigWigs/Extras/Proximity.lua: BigWigs: Proximity: Concat with \n instead if comma. |
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| 14:07.06 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r32994 10Fubar_AlchemyFu/ (FuBar_AlchemyFu.lua FuBar_AlchemyFu.toc libs/): |
| 14:07.06 | CIA-11 | Fubar_AlchemyFu: Add code \o/ |
| 14:07.06 | CIA-11 | - It's still beta, and still buggy .. but it works, I think |
| 14:09.23 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r32995 10/trunk/ (FuBar_AlchemyFu/ Fubar_AlchemyFu/): Fubar_AlchemyFu: Proper casing |
| 14:09.30 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r32996 10BigWigs/Extras/Proximity.lua: BigWigs: Proximity: Properly disable the module when BigWigs is disabled. Also clear the list of names when we show the anchor. |
| 14:10.12 | Chompers | is everything okay with PitBull/Aloft/Ratingsbuster? |
| 14:10.34 | Chompers | i've got tonnes of errors with them since i updated earlier today :/ |
| 14:13.56 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r32997 10FuBar_AlchemyFu/FuBar_AlchemyFu.toc: FuBar_AlchemyFu: fix libs in toc |
| 14:15.32 | art3mis | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2003670492_google18.html <-- pure humor |
| 14:15.49 | art3mis | just for the first "quoted" comment about 1/4 down |
| 14:17.12 | CIA-11 | 03jjsheets * r32998 10Expo/modules/Profiler.lua: |
| 14:17.12 | CIA-11 | Expo - Added options to Profile Addons, Libraries, and Classes, each of which |
| 14:17.12 | CIA-11 | set up the profiler correctly, use these instead of the generic profiler as a |
| 14:17.12 | CIA-11 | general rule. Expo now sorts all 'profilers' together, and has a slightly |
| 14:17.12 | CIA-11 | cleaner display. AddOns with modules will properly have the modules profiled |
| 14:17.14 | CIA-11 | also when using the New Addon Profiler... Configuration option. |
| 14:17.58 | JJSheets | lol art3mis |
| 14:18.27 | Saroz | wtf is Expo |
| 14:18.52 | JJSheets | Expo is an event tracker, a lua expression evaluator, and a lua code profiling tool. |
| 14:19.22 | JJSheets | it is the shiznit. (thanks to ckknight, vhaarr and ag for the stuff I used of theirs. :) |
| 14:21.06 | JJSheets | and what's really awesome is that when the tooltip isn't detached... Expo doesn't seem to slow the game down too much. :) |
| 14:21.26 | kenlyric | heh |
| 14:21.42 | JJSheets | throw that tablet code in tho, and BOG BOG BOG |
| 14:21.55 | kenlyric | there are miles of beautiful beaches and absolutely no flesh eating monsters. |
| 14:22.02 | JJSheets | lmao |
| 14:22.02 | art3mis | wow that is one unlucky girl |
| 14:22.11 | art3mis | she was present fopr columbine and present for vtech |
| 14:22.24 | art3mis | i bet shes involved with both some how |
| 14:22.33 | kenlyric | don't work at a job with her. |
| 14:22.39 | art3mis | no shit |
| 14:22.46 | JJSheets | art3mis, damn... I wonder how much better she did this time around... |
| 14:22.48 | art3mis | i bet she gets a post office job |
| 14:23.03 | JJSheets | lmao |
| 14:23.06 | art3mis | well lets compare the two... |
| 14:23.21 | art3mis | columbine around 12 hurt 6 killed 4 people shooting 5000 rounds |
| 14:23.21 | JJSheets | american postalworker's union local 911... In Ak-47's we trust. |
| 14:23.41 | JJSheets | s/postalworker's/disgruntled postalworker's/ |
| 14:23.48 | art3mis | vtech 1 person 3 hours passed 33 dead and a bunch more injured 5 clips used |
| 14:24.13 | art3mis | at least vtech is educating and trainign bwetter than a shit highschool full of losers ;) |
| 14:24.48 | JJSheets | I love how PitBull tells me that Vile Familiars are paladins. |
| 14:24.57 | art3mis | the news came on last night about this and i asked why we were watching it since it doesnt effect me and i dont really give a shit about that state or anyone involved |
| 14:25.06 | art3mis | my wife asked if i was a sociopath |
| 14:25.14 | JJSheets | lmao |
| 14:25.19 | kenlyric | no honey, that would be *that* guy. |
| 14:25.22 | JJSheets | no probably just sick of bad news :) |
| 14:25.32 | art3mis | cuz appearantly im missing this thing called i think its spelt empathy? |
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| 14:26.38 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 14:26.45 | JJSheets | hi |
| 14:27.24 | kenlyric | art3mis: too many people fall into empathy. Makes you too emotionally attached to things you have no business getting attached to. |
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| 14:27.39 | art3mis | nods ken |
| 14:27.44 | kenlyric | sympathy is a better emotion in a case like this. |
| 14:27.55 | art3mis | yeah i have none of that too |
| 14:28.09 | kenlyric | yeah, we need to lock you up before you go on a rampage. |
| 14:28.11 | JJSheets | lrn2duck, right art3mis? |
| 14:28.18 | art3mis | im impressed more by the killers body count and ability to last as long as he did |
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| 14:28.37 | art3mis | well to be fair, im an asshole |
| 14:28.43 | JJSheets | now you're offically a sociopath... or a drill instructor... which is it? |
| 14:28.50 | art3mis | and if someone decides to beat me up or kill me it's because of that fact |
| 14:29.10 | art3mis | i accept personal responsibility for my life, even the parts i have no control over |
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| 14:29.36 | not-prime | Gagorian: are you here? |
| 14:29.44 | kenlyric | I kinda know this situation from the other side, so I tend to not let myself get too involved. |
| 14:29.57 | art3mis | and yes officially a sociopath, since my first words after seeing the wtc drop was "finally someone slapped the face of the americans on thier home soil" |
| 14:29.59 | Gagorian | not-prime: yes(ish) |
| 14:30.06 | not-prime | May I PM you? |
| 14:30.11 | Gagorian | Sur |
| 14:30.13 | Gagorian | *Sure |
| 14:30.16 | JJSheets | art3mis, damn... lol |
| 14:30.23 | art3mis | granted i dont state that too loudly while im in nyc |
| 14:30.34 | art3mis | but its genuinely how i feel |
| 14:30.34 | JJSheets | I'd hope not... :) |
| 14:30.48 | Nickenyfiken | Shamans should be able to enslave elementals just like Warlocks can do with demons :-/ |
| 14:30.57 | kenlyric | you know, my first thought was "how do you demolish a building that tall when it's done burning?" |
| 14:31.00 | art3mis | "arent you afraid of terrosit attacks living in new york?" "no im canadian, i wasnt brought up on fear mongering thanks" |
| 14:31.10 | not-prime | art3mis did wtc |
| 14:31.12 | art3mis | actually they did a REALLY nice job of removal |
| 14:31.19 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r32999 10FuBar_AlchemyFu/FuBar_AlchemyFu.lua: |
| 14:31.21 | CIA-11 | FuBar_AlchemyFu: |
| 14:31.23 | CIA-11 | - Remove debug |
| 14:31.25 | CIA-11 | - Make itemId numeric |
| 14:31.27 | CIA-11 | - Fix proc counter not incrementing |
| 14:31.39 | art3mis | and i must say the demo of it and the design of it were amazing |
| 14:32.12 | art3mis | the fact you could ram something that heavy that high up and have it still collapse without too much damage tothe stractures around it was just incredible |
| 14:32.22 | Gagorian | ~seen TUller |
| 14:33.03 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-68-57-185-39.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 17h 34m 13s ago, saying: 'nevcairiel: my omnicc works :P'. |
| 14:33.04 | art3mis | heh |
| 14:33.08 | art3mis | it's fun ;P |
| 14:33.24 | kenlyric | but anyway, it'll be fun to watch the blame game start up full force on this guy in VA. |
| 14:33.31 | art3mis | yeah |
| 14:33.32 | kenlyric | well, the blame game will be on everyone but him, of course. |
| 14:33.38 | art3mis | maybe not |
| 14:33.42 | art3mis | he was foreign |
| 14:33.53 | JJSheets | kenlyric, it's the trenchcoat mafia... I swear it |
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| 14:34.52 | art3mis | ya know what song ive had running through my head all morning |
| 14:35.02 | art3mis | Flag Pole Sittah by Harvey Danger |
| 14:35.56 | kenlyric | I got no sympathy. I don't really care, not-killing people is very easy task achieve, no matter the obstacles you face. |
| 14:36.08 | art3mis | Been around the world and found |
| 14:36.08 | art3mis | That only stupid people are breeding |
| 14:36.08 | art3mis | The cretins cloning and feeding |
| 14:36.08 | art3mis | And I don't even own a TV |
| 14:36.22 | kenlyric | love that song. |
| 14:36.40 | art3mis | you've seen idiocracy havent you? |
| 14:36.50 | kenlyric | sadly no. |
| 14:36.56 | art3mis | oh man netflix it now! |
| 14:37.06 | art3mis | words cannot express how funny it is |
| 14:37.15 | kenlyric | I don't understand why it's a future movie... |
| 14:37.18 | kenlyric | the future is NOW |
| 14:37.32 | art3mis | thats true i spose |
| 14:37.51 | kenlyric | lol... itunes this morningg. |
| 14:37.56 | kenlyric | "Just added... Robocop" |
| 14:38.53 | art3mis | why did you water it with that stuff? it's what plants crave. why? because it's got electrolytes. do you even know what electrolytes are? the things that plants crave? *repeat for about 5 minutes* |
| 14:39.16 | kenlyric | damn, no albums before 2000 from harvey danger on itunes. I've been denied! |
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| 14:39.42 | art3mis | if i emember right its on thier site for free download |
| 14:39.44 | [Ammo] | ouch, rookie plumber: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23393040-details/Blundering%20plumber%20burns%20down%20%C3%BD%C3%BD5m%20mansion/article.do |
| 14:39.46 | art3mis | remember |
| 14:39.53 | kenlyric | even better |
| 14:39.58 | trh | hididilido |
| 14:40.27 | art3mis | Workers at the site were yesterday determined to keep the identity of their plumber colleague a secret. |
| 14:40.30 | art3mis | gee why? |
| 14:40.38 | evl | replacing Gmail with Postal a feature went missing; alt-clicking an item would ad it to the trade window, any similar addon that does this? |
| 14:40.52 | [Ammo] | altclicktoadditem |
| 14:40.56 | [Ammo] | or somethinglike that |
| 14:41.14 | [Ammo] | it's on svn somewhere |
| 14:41.17 | evl | thanks |
| 14:41.35 | [Ammo] | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AltClickToAddItem/ |
| 14:41.36 | knarf- | my postal keeps adding "block trades" :< |
| 14:41.40 | knarf- | super anoying |
| 14:41.48 | [Ammo] | delete postal saved var |
| 14:41.51 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r33000 10FuBar_AlchemyFu/FuBar_AlchemyFu.lua: FuBar_AlchemyFu: Misc fixes |
| 14:41.55 | knarf- | not sure if I need to delete the saved var for all chars |
| 14:42.15 | [Ammo] | or disable postal |
| 14:42.15 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33001 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua LoadOnDemand.lua): BigWigs: No longer enables automatically when you join a raid, but rather enables per zone instead. |
| 14:42.28 | [Ammo] | set the cvar correctly with normal settings |
| 14:42.32 | knarf- | But I like it, except for that :P |
| 14:42.33 | [Ammo] | then delete postal saved vars |
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| 14:42.35 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 14:42.42 | [Ammo] | well then you're screwed I think but not sure |
| 14:42.47 | [Ammo] | I don't use the trade blocker |
| 14:43.00 | knarf- | could just disable that I guess |
| 14:43.01 | kenlyric | trade blocker has never been enabled for me. |
| 14:43.10 | kenlyric | I figured that was the default. |
| 14:44.42 | [Ammo] | well it can screw up if you enable it once |
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| 14:44.45 | [Ammo] | i think |
| 14:45.37 | kenlyric | all I have to say to that plumber story: that's what you get for paying $5mil for a house that shitty. |
| 14:46.15 | vhaarr | Location, location, location. |
| 14:46.26 | kenlyric | and, those are pounds... double lol, for paying that much for such an ugly house in *england* |
| 14:46.28 | haste | developers, developers, developers... |
| 14:46.50 | kenlyric | for that much money, I want a drawbridge and moat |
| 14:47.21 | trh | if i had 5mil i'd surely not want to live in england... always foggy and rainy ;) |
| 14:50.16 | vhaarr | Saroz: gah, you bastard, you got 33000 :) |
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| 14:51.21 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33002 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: BigWigs: LoadOnDemand: Save some function calls. |
| 14:52.21 | [Ammo] | the battle for 33033 is on! |
| 14:52.37 | vhaarr | 33333 ftw? |
| 14:53.03 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:53.08 | [Ammo] | but first 33033 |
| 14:53.57 | Saroz | vhaarr \o/ |
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| 15:02.47 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r33003 10FuBar_AlchemyFu/FuBar_AlchemyFu.lua: FuBar_AlchemyFu: Tweaks |
| 15:07.01 | evl | Ominous: RogueTimerFu:Test() doesn't do anything? :P |
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| 15:08.35 | Ominous | evl: huh, ill look |
| 15:08.38 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33004 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: warn who you cast Misdirection on, drycoded, no idea if it works i have no hunter |
| 15:10.24 | evl | Ominous: I even tried running it manuallyt with /script |
| 15:10.28 | pastamancer | Funkeh`: you're no fun. Isn't the whole point of misdirection to get people who aren't paying attention killed? |
| 15:11.03 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 15:11.36 | pastamancer | I think our priests get misdirected more often than our tanks. |
| 15:11.47 | Loki|muh | lol, I must try _THIS_! |
| 15:12.01 | Loki|muh | does misdirection work with any friendly player? *g* |
| 15:12.10 | pastamancer | only in your group/raid |
| 15:12.28 | Loki|muh | :( |
| 15:12.30 | pastamancer | works great on mages too |
| 15:12.35 | Loki|muh | hrhr |
| 15:12.48 | pastamancer | team up with a priest that has power-infusion if you want to make it a sure thing |
| 15:13.19 | Loki|muh | lol |
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| 15:13.48 | deltron | PI is dangerous! |
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| 15:17.53 | Ominous | evl: ill fox it later |
| 15:17.57 | Ominous | s/fox/fix/ |
| 15:18.44 | evl | Ominous: and for some obscure reason i keep getting DR: bars from out of nowhere |
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| 15:29.27 | xyu | wasabi |
| 15:29.35 | evl | ckknight: hidezero stopped working after latest update btw |
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| 15:32.50 | deltron | oh crap |
| 15:32.58 | deltron | massive failures of turbotax servers |
| 15:33.10 | pastamancer | :( |
| 15:33.43 | Tain | Yeah funny stuff. |
| 15:33.47 | deltron | guess what I'm not using next year! |
| 15:34.12 | Tain | If you want to use software Tax Cut is cheaper and does the same things without having a history of screwing people. |
| 15:34.59 | Tain | Turbotax installed malware a few years back, then HR Block last year sent out Turbo Tax CDs to customers with their social security number printed on the address label. |
| 15:35.22 | deltron | jeez |
| 15:35.23 | pastamancer | ... wow |
| 15:35.29 | deltron | I knew I should have stayed away |
| 15:36.30 | Tain | Although I have to admit I found it incredibly funny a few years ago when Intuit released numbers saying something like (I forget the exact numbers) 10 million people bought Turbo Tax personal edition but 20 million people filed returns online with it. |
| 15:36.43 | deltron | lol |
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| 15:38.37 | ravagernl | who made cartographer_waypoints? |
| 15:38.50 | [Ammo] | read the .toc |
| 15:39.20 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33005 10BigWigs/SC/Hydross.lua: BigWigs: SC/Hydross: adding changes by Radon |
| 15:39.22 | ravagernl | im lazy :P |
| 15:40.14 | Gagorian | Lazy people get no cookies! |
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| 15:41.49 | trh | Tain: uh? is it so far away thought that most buyers are married and both partners used it? |
| 15:48.53 | hyperChipmunk | #%$!# i ran out of ammo again =\ |
| 15:49.29 | hyperChipmunk | why does it always wait until the last 10% to run out =( |
| 15:50.52 | [Ammo] | I'm herer |
| 15:50.54 | [Ammo] | +++ |
| 15:50.55 | [Ammo] | ++++ |
| 15:50.58 | [Ammo] | there ammo back |
| 15:51.24 | hyperChipmunk | >8\ |
| 15:51.38 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33006 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: BigWigs: LoadOnDemand: Only enable if the player is in a raid. We'll be adding support for party-enabling soon. |
| 15:52.13 | Saroz | Bigwigs for party |
| 15:52.14 | Saroz | omg omg omg |
| 15:52.49 | [Ammo] | someone can make LittleWigs then for heroic 5 mans :) |
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| 15:53.04 | hyperChipmunk | tupee |
| 15:53.09 | Saroz | LittleWigs |
| 15:53.09 | Saroz | hah |
| 15:53.23 | Megalon | :> |
| 15:53.39 | Megalon | SONIC BOOM SOON!!!!111 |
| 15:53.40 | Megalon | >:< |
| 15:53.45 | [Ammo] | euhm yeah |
| 15:53.47 | Saroz | POLARITY SHIFT |
| 15:54.02 | [Ammo] | basically that's the idea |
| 15:54.09 | Megalon | BLADE /DANCE! |
| 15:54.22 | Chompers | party-enabling soon |
| 15:54.23 | Chompers | oh my |
| 15:55.09 | Punkie` | welcome to 3 minutes ago Chompers. |
| 15:55.23 | Chompers | i wasnt looking at mirc! |
| 15:55.31 | Megalon | that's no excuse |
| 15:55.33 | kenlyric | SCROOOLBACK |
| 15:55.38 | kenlyric | oh come on. |
| 15:55.45 | kenlyric | some people respond to things that are 8 hours old. |
| 15:55.53 | Punkie` | lies |
| 15:56.08 | Punkie` | OMGOMG part support for bigwigs!! |
| 15:56.09 | Killmore | where where littlewings ? |
| 15:56.20 | [Ammo] | someone can make it... |
| 15:56.22 | Chompers | haha, nice picture [Ammo] |
| 15:56.28 | Chompers | the free candy van |
| 15:56.31 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:56.33 | [Ammo] | it pwns |
| 15:56.35 | Chompers | like that? |
| 15:56.54 | Chompers | :< |
| 15:56.55 | Megalon | what's coming after 5mans? SoloWigs? |
| 15:57.01 | Megalon | DIRE BOAR GAINS ENRAGE!1111 |
| 15:57.02 | Megalon | :x |
| 15:57.05 | Chompers | ahahaha |
| 15:57.16 | Punkie` | man |
| 15:57.18 | deltron | MOAR |
| 15:57.22 | Chompers | i want that addon |
| 15:57.30 | Punkie` | THIS NEEDS TO BE IN DEADLY BOSS MODS TOOO |
| 15:57.34 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33007 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua: |
| 15:57.34 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: SC/Lurker: |
| 15:57.34 | CIA-11 | - upping spout's by 5 seconds |
| 15:57.34 | CIA-11 | - added first spout warning |
| 15:57.36 | Punkie` | like |
| 15:57.41 | Punkie` | a walkthrough mod of how to play |
| 15:57.51 | Chompers | or... |
| 15:57.58 | Chompers | a walkthrough on how to use a walkthrough |
| 15:57.59 | knarf- | ZOMG HEAL! |
| 15:58.05 | Killmore | we all want a littlewigs :\ |
| 15:58.38 | Funkeh` | dissing dbm again? ping me when you do that |
| 15:58.44 | Punkie` | :( |
| 15:58.52 | Punkie` | we can always continue! |
| 15:58.55 | Chompers | i've never used it, is it any good? |
| 15:58.57 | Gagorian | SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0\SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0.lua:14: SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0 requires Deformat-2.0. |
| 15:59.04 | Megalon | !Engaged Flatland Prowler! |
| 15:59.06 | Gagorian | Pretty funny considering I have deformat |
| 15:59.09 | Punkie` | You have selected Felboar |
| 15:59.13 | Megalon | :x |
| 15:59.13 | Gagorian | And everything else using it works |
| 15:59.14 | Punkie` | press 1 to cast frostbolt |
| 15:59.24 | Punkie` | '1.5sec bar for globalcooldown' |
| 15:59.28 | Punkie` | press 1 again |
| 15:59.35 | Megalon | Felboar defeated! *victory sound* |
| 15:59.52 | Chompers | that would get so old, there better not be a victiory sound in solowigs |
| 16:00.00 | kenlyric | Work Complete! |
| 16:00.04 | Megalon | ;D |
| 16:00.11 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r33008 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: BigWigs: check the zone when joining a group |
| 16:00.23 | kenlyric | so I decided out of questfu, I want the horde "Work Complete" and the alliance "More Work?" |
| 16:00.53 | Chompers | damnit ammo, less work on LOD and more work on solowigs |
| 16:02.06 | Funkeh` | Chompres: feel free to start it |
| 16:02.09 | pastamancer | at least add a Hogger bossmod! |
| 16:02.31 | Chompers | but i'm an idiot :/ |
| 16:02.36 | knarf- | Anyone remember how SetTexture works, if its relative to the addon, if you wanna use custom textures? :) |
| 16:02.46 | Funkeh` | so call it IdiotWigs |
| 16:03.00 | Fisker- | ckknight |
| 16:03.10 | Chompers | you know its just going to be a lua file that says hello once :P |
| 16:03.14 | Fisker- | slouken is in your threads questioning your problems! |
| 16:03.25 | Funkeh` | O.M.G |
| 16:03.28 | Funkeh` | givf link |
| 16:03.53 | pastamancer | knarf-: you mean like Interface\\Addons\\YourAddonHere\\YourTexture.tga ? |
| 16:03.59 | Fisker- | bluetracker Funkeh` n00b |
| 16:04.03 | knarf- | pastamancer ye :P |
| 16:04.17 | Killmore | Hogger bossmod ! |
| 16:04.20 | Killmore | zo my god |
| 16:04.31 | deltron | lol |
| 16:04.40 | Chompers | does hogger actually do anything? |
| 16:04.45 | Chompers | does he enrage or something |
| 16:04.48 | Funkeh` | Fisker-: you clearly don't nkow how much i slack, direct link! |
| 16:04.59 | Gagorian | Why would if not AceLibrary:HasInstance("Deformat-2.0") then error(vmajor .. " requires Deformat-2.0.") end |
| 16:05.21 | Gagorian | error in SE-Loot even if deformat is present? |
| 16:05.31 | Gagorian | As standalone |
| 16:05.39 | Gagorian | Been doing it for a few weeks now |
| 16:08.39 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r33009 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: BigWigs: reverting last commit, there's more to it. |
| 16:08.56 | pastamancer | do you have deformat standalone? SELoot lists it as an OptionalDep |
| 16:09.30 | [Ammo] | because someone forgot a 'return' |
| 16:09.53 | Gagorian | pastamancer: Yes |
| 16:13.54 | pastamancer | and you verified that deformat is loaded? /dump AceLibrary:HasInstance("Deformat-2.0") |
| 16:14.20 | Gagorian | Of course |
| 16:14.47 | Gagorian | But the error happens during loading screen when SEA is loaded up |
| 16:15.04 | pastamancer | oh, what's the name of the folder that your standalone deformat lives in? |
| 16:15.29 | Gagorian | Same as provided in the download.. Being \Deformat\ |
| 16:15.39 | pastamancer | no clue then |
| 16:16.07 | Gagorian | Everything else using Deformat works just fine as well |
| 16:16.13 | pastamancer | unless somehow you have a mod that's embedding SELoot but not Deformat and doesn't list Deformat as an optional dep |
| 16:16.24 | vhaarr | Shouldn't matter. |
| 16:16.31 | vhaarr | Gagorian: Does Deformat.toc have ## X-AceLibrary-Deformat-2.0: true ? |
| 16:16.46 | [Ammo] | it does |
| 16:17.05 | vhaarr | I know the one in SVN does, I'm asking if Gagorian's does. |
| 16:17.12 | Gagorian | yes |
| 16:17.38 | pastamancer | hmm, how does LoadOnDemand interact with OptionalDeps? |
| 16:17.47 | [Ammo] | time for dinner, later |
| 16:17.53 | vhaarr | Gagorian: /print IsAddOnLoaded("Deformat") |
| 16:18.06 | vhaarr | pastamancer: Read AceLibrary:GetInstance/HasInstance. |
| 16:18.14 | Gagorian | vhaarr: nil |
| 16:18.17 | vhaarr | heh |
| 16:18.20 | vhaarr | No wonder, then. |
| 16:18.32 | vhaarr | Gagorian: Your Deformat addon is disabled and one of your addons embed Deformat-2.0. |
| 16:18.39 | vhaarr | And that addon is loaded after SE. |
| 16:19.09 | pastamancer | vhaarr: ah |
| 16:19.40 | Gagorian | vhaarr: It's loaded before SE |
| 16:20.22 | Fisker- | i killed your mom |
| 16:20.22 | vhaarr | Gagorian: Your Deformat addon is not loaded. |
| 16:20.22 | vhaarr | Which means it's disabled. |
| 16:20.48 | Gagorian | It's not, but I got it embedded |
| 16:20.48 | vhaarr | Then the TOC of that addon is fucked. |
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| 16:20.49 | Gagorian | It's possibly older |
| 16:20.49 | Gagorian | Since I only update standalones |
| 16:21.07 | vhaarr | Suffice to say, nothing is wrong with SE-L, Deformat or Ace2, and this is some programmers problem. |
| 16:21.13 | vhaarr | So go talk to him, whoever that is. |
| 16:22.24 | Punkie` | omg omg bigwigs for groups |
| 16:22.52 | Gagorian | vhaarr: I didn't quite yet catch what the problem is. Explain? |
| 16:23.17 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33010 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc TheEye/BigWigs_TheEye.toc TheEye/Reaver.lua): BigWigs: TheEye/Reaver: add Void Reaver mod |
| 16:23.34 | Fisker- | excuse me wtf r u doin? |
| 16:24.08 | TheKarn | playing your mother like a banjo |
| 16:24.11 | vhaarr | Gagorian: The problem could be 2 things; either that addon lists SE-L before Deformat in its TOC file listing or OptionalDeps. |
| 16:24.26 | Fisker- | awesome TheKarn |
| 16:25.05 | TheKarn | so where do people stand with the whole BigWigs vs DBM? |
| 16:25.18 | vhaarr | There's a "BigWigs vs DBM"? |
| 16:25.27 | vhaarr | I'm not competing. |
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| 16:25.40 | TheKarn | i'm not saying theres a competition |
| 16:25.44 | Gagorian | vhaarr: Alright I think I got it |
| 16:25.44 | Fisker- | Yeah it's like comparing godly vs crap |
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| 16:25.56 | Gagorian | SpecialEventsEmbed is before Deformat in OptDeps |
| 16:25.58 | TheKarn | is that respective, fisker? |
| 16:26.08 | Funkeh` | theres nothing wrong with healthy competition |
| 16:26.17 | Funkeh` | when the market is dominated by 1 product, it ususally sucks |
| 16:26.21 | TheKarn | yeah |
| 16:26.24 | TheKarn | remember CT? |
| 16:26.26 | Fisker- | indeed TheKarn |
| 16:27.49 | Saroz | wtf is DBM |
| 16:28.09 | JoshBorke | deadly boss mods? |
| 16:28.12 | Funkeh` | death by mod |
| 16:28.20 | Saroz | ehhhh ok |
| 16:28.21 | Saroz | link |
| 16:28.35 | Fisker- | death by mod is better imo |
| 16:28.40 | Gagorian | vhaarr: Scratch that. No difference |
| 16:29.00 | Funkeh` | http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=death+by+mod&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
| 16:29.18 | vhaarr | Gagorian: What mod are you talking about? |
| 16:29.32 | vhaarr | Gagorian: Perhaps next time you talk about a problem you could provide all relevant resources. |
| 16:29.55 | Gagorian | Well I didn't even know what addon caused it before I started :) |
| 16:30.35 | Gagorian | Still not sure, but I'm guessing it's mine. |
| 16:31.10 | Fisker- | omg we have a void reaver mod before DBM |
| 16:31.11 | Fisker- | we rule! |
| 16:31.14 | Gagorian | (DrDamage). On the other hand, unless SE-L is new, it just started occuring recently. |
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| 16:31.57 | trh | oh.. just found out that the deadly boss mods are maintained by someone on my server... other faction... guess i have to gank him now :> |
| 16:32.03 | vhaarr | Gagorian: |
| 16:32.04 | vhaarr | libs\SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0\SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua |
| 16:32.04 | vhaarr | libs\Deformat-2.0\Deformat-2.0.lua |
| 16:32.06 | vhaarr | ... |
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| 16:32.14 | Gagorian | SEA doesn't use deformat |
| 16:32.15 | vhaarr | ah, Loot |
| 16:32.29 | Gagorian | I'm not -that- stupid :D |
| 16:32.53 | Gagorian | deleting SE-L makes the problem go away |
| 16:33.56 | hyperChipmunk | besides, how can you possibly compete with this: http://ace.pastey.net/8628 |
| 16:34.22 | vhaarr | MY EYES |
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| 16:34.33 | trh | hyperChipmunk: you want us to puke? |
| 16:34.39 | Megalon | wtf |
| 16:34.42 | vhaarr | jesus christ |
| 16:34.45 | Megalon | omg |
| 16:34.51 | Megalon | i just wanted to get something to eat |
| 16:34.59 | Megalon | well... no need now |
| 16:35.00 | Megalon | :X |
| 16:35.05 | trh | although... i'd love to see that is "in too near check" in bigwigs :) |
| 16:35.58 | Gagorian | vhaarr: DrDamage has the newest Deformat embedded cause I do SVN updates. But still I don't see why the error occurs |
| 16:36.07 | Gagorian | Gratuity, GloryLib work fine even if they both use it |
| 16:36.19 | Punkie` | well, if you squint your eyes a little it does look a bit pretty |
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| 16:36.56 | hyperChipmunk | i think it's funny that he made sure to properly format the code with \n's everywhere |
| 16:37.09 | vhaarr | Gagorian: Move Deformat-2.0 before SE-Aura in the TOC. |
| 16:37.20 | vhaarr | restart wow and try again |
| 16:37.27 | hyperChipmunk | i should complain about the lack of \t's |
| 16:37.34 | vhaarr | haha |
| 16:38.17 | Punkie` | rofl at their forums |
| 16:38.18 | Punkie` | http://www.deadlybossmods.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66 |
| 16:38.28 | Gagorian | vhaarr: No difference |
| 16:38.34 | Gagorian | I've tried it all already |
| 16:38.36 | Punkie` | http://www.deadlybossmods.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64 |
| 16:38.46 | vhaarr | Gagorian: Alright, well I'm raiding now, so I can't help debug any more. |
| 16:38.53 | Gagorian | Deleting the embedded deformat |
| 16:39.02 | Gagorian | just made a lot more addons error |
| 16:39.13 | Gagorian | Seems like the standalone isn't being loaded |
| 16:39.23 | Punkie` | Seems like Fisker- has been trolling them tbh |
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| 16:43.29 | Fisker- | Where did i go wrong_ |
| 16:43.29 | Fisker- | ? |
| 16:43.30 | Fisker- | Apparently Elkano survived |
| 16:43.45 | Chompers | the posion didnt work? |
| 16:43.57 | Elkano | unfortunatly, you too... |
| 16:44.38 | trh | Elkano: great answer ;) |
| 16:46.02 | Chompers | http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070415/NEWS/704150338 |
| 16:46.12 | Gagorian | vhaarr: Well, no more errors now. The embedded library (that in my opinion loads before SE-L) just somehow only doesn't work for SE-L. |
| 16:46.13 | Chompers | dudes lives in a flying saucer |
| 16:46.24 | Gagorian | Using purely standalone with "Deformat" addon loaded works |
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| 16:52.56 | Fisker- | haha oh wow Punkie` |
| 16:52.58 | Fisker- | BRUTAL RAPE WEEEEEEEE |
| 16:53.07 | shieldb | oh man |
| 16:53.08 | shieldb | http://www.kolumbus.fi/fishu/trash/skoreagold.jpg |
| 16:53.20 | Punkie` | Fisker-: :D |
| 16:54.38 | hyperChipmunk | so where do you stand in the seminal Pop vs. Corn controversy? |
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| 16:58.57 | deltron | great, valve was hacked |
| 16:59.53 | Elkano | nothing new... |
| 16:59.57 | deltron | heh |
| 17:00.02 | Chompers | ...Again? |
| 17:00.20 | Elkano | yes, hopefully you didn't buy HL² by credit card ^^ |
| 17:00.24 | Chompers | so i gues that means they're pushing ep2 back |
| 17:00.28 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r33011 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: Changing duplicate-range to 10 yards, use Cartographer_Cleanup to remove old duplicates |
| 17:01.34 | Hjalte | I can't get the focus unit to appear in Pitbull. Is there a script command to reset the focus frame position? |
| 17:01.55 | deltron | I had focus coming up last night |
| 17:02.33 | Kirkburn|afk | deltron, what? |
| 17:02.41 | Kirkburn|afk | News link? |
| 17:03.20 | Saroz | ffs someone seriously fucked up cart_noteshare |
| 17:03.23 | deltron | http://www.digg.com/gaming_news/Valve_Hacked_Your_Info_may_be_at_risk |
| 17:04.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Wow, that guy is an idiot |
| 17:04.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Does he think that he's somehow safe from prosecution? |
| 17:04.37 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r33012 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: Revert secure hook change. Test it, then commit it. |
| 17:05.39 | Kirkburn|afk | This is how to get revenge on Steam, hack their bank account and get the FBI on your ass? |
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| 17:09.58 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm pretty sure it's bullshit |
| 17:10.02 | Fisker- | You are invited to apply for participation in a pre-release program for Microsfot Udpate Client Beta on the Microsoft Connect Web site |
| 17:10.04 | Fisker- | Fucking fail |
| 17:10.10 | deltron | lol |
| 17:10.15 | Fisker- | I doubt maddoxx would lie Kirkburn|afk |
| 17:10.19 | Kirkburn|afk | hah |
| 17:10.41 | Kirkburn|afk | This is why 10 days later there's been /nothing/ about it anywhere? |
| 17:10.56 | Kirkburn|afk | But suddenly it's appeared on digg today because someone found the thread? |
| 17:11.17 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 17:11.23 | Fisker- | might have a point there |
| 17:12.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyway, /if it is true/ the guy deserves to go to prison |
| 17:13.51 | Fisker- | Yeah well he was one of the notorius steam hackers in the beginning |
| 17:14.09 | Fisker- | I helped valve and one of their cyber café's with the issue before it went retail |
| 17:14.55 | Kirkburn|afk | funky |
| 17:15.03 | Fisker- | He had somehow gotten hold of some files related to their cyber café project, basically giving everyone full access to every game |
| 17:15.41 | Fisker- | I thought he was dutch though |
| 17:16.13 | Fisker- | But since he says he's russian i'm wondering why he hasn't made a "cool hundred mil" on the CC info |
| 17:16.42 | deltron | his message is too coherent to be a russian |
| 17:16.43 | deltron | imho |
| 17:17.13 | Kirkburn|afk | He calls VALVe nerds because they monitor the forums 24/7? |
| 17:17.19 | Fisker- | yeah i like that |
| 17:17.21 | Kirkburn|afk | He is one sad, sad guy |
| 17:17.29 | Fisker- | He just hacked valve(or so he claims) and callst hem nerds |
| 17:17.48 | Fisker- | (even though their forums are not moderated by valve directly, but by volounteers, across the globe) |
| 17:18.28 | Gagorian | Seems to retarded to have pulled it off |
| 17:18.32 | Gagorian | I say bullshit |
| 17:18.35 | Gagorian | *too |
| 17:18.47 | Fisker- | It could however be that he claimed the 8th april to have hacked them |
| 17:18.53 | Fisker- | Noone listened because he's a fucktard |
| 17:18.56 | Fisker- | Then he updated it today |
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| 17:22.34 | trh | uh.. valve.. wasnt that the company that let the halflife2 source code get stolen? |
| 17:22.53 | trh | ... i wouldn't trust their security :) |
| 17:23.10 | Hjalte | I payed hl2 with credit card oO |
| 17:23.18 | deltron | MS got their stuff stolen also |
| 17:23.41 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 17:23.44 | kenlyric | what I don't get, is hating valve enough to have a novalve website. |
| 17:23.50 | trh | deltron: true.. i wouldn't trust a MS server either ;) |
| 17:23.54 | Fisker- | nosteam kenlyric :P |
| 17:23.58 | Fisker- | Hey you're all forgetting |
| 17:24.07 | kenlyric | Fisker-: even worse. |
| 17:24.15 | Fisker- | Valve were running Linux and they exploited a security-hole in it |
| 17:24.16 | Fisker- | !!!!!!! |
| 17:24.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Steam is fine, people are just too up themselves to get over it |
| 17:24.42 | trh | Fisker-: afaik the developer pc's got infected with a trojan horse |
| 17:24.51 | trh | Fisker-: and they ran windows |
| 17:24.54 | kenlyric | steam is the best idea since the invention of... ideas! |
| 17:24.55 | Fisker- | half the story yeah |
| 17:25.04 | kenlyric | Completely pissed me off when I have to go to a store to buy a game now. |
| 17:25.11 | trh | kenlyric: amazon? |
| 17:25.17 | Kirkburn|afk | kenlyric, indeedly |
| 17:25.17 | kenlyric | then I have to wait! |
| 17:25.33 | kaiden | i have a buddy that worked at valve, and according to him they had fired a dev that copied parts of their visual source database and took it with him |
| 17:25.34 | Fisker- | Infact the hacker gained access to their mailserver, sniffed around a bit, and got around to installing remote admin programs on the computers using some passwords he had gotten from the mailserver |
| 17:25.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Aye, buying a game for $10 and getting it /immediately/ rocks |
| 17:25.38 | trh | kenlyric: gamestop then? ;) |
| 17:25.51 | Fisker- | kaiden my brother died that way! |
| 17:26.12 | Kirkburn|afk | ... |
| 17:26.24 | kenlyric | Once you experience a certain technology, it's difficult to go back. |
| 17:26.49 | trh | kenlyric: you mean like porn? ;) |
| 17:26.53 | Kirkburn|afk | VALVe weren't hacked because they were particularly lax, they were hacked because some people just couldn't wait for HL" |
| 17:26.56 | Kirkburn|afk | *HL2 |
| 17:27.03 | Fisker- | yeag |
| 17:27.05 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 17:27.08 | Fisker- | It was actually a fan |
| 17:27.25 | Fisker- | There was a story about Valve actually tried to "hire" the fan |
| 17:27.30 | kenlyric | I want all of my software to be like steam... especially the part where it installs in the background. |
| 17:27.38 | Fisker- | But since the german police cooporated it was unnessecary |
| 17:27.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, as a sting |
| 17:27.51 | *** join/#wowace pub^ (n=pub@cdubray.csbnet.se) |
| 17:27.55 | trh | kenlyric: warden isn't much better :/ |
| 17:28.03 | kenlyric | heh, yeah... like when the RIAA offerred "amnesty" to people. |
| 17:28.21 | kenlyric | trh: no, I was being serious... I love how steam games install while I'm doing something else. |
| 17:28.27 | kenlyric | I wish all my other games did that. |
| 17:28.36 | Kirkburn|afk | I think the official version was that VALVe planned on getting him to come out of hiding by offering him a job, them catching him. However, the German police wre none to happy about an American comany doing a sting on a German national |
| 17:29.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Most likely because it would be completely illegal :P |
| 17:29.25 | kenlyric | I think that would be illegal even in the US :) |
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| 17:29.37 | Fisker- | yeah "illegal" |
| 17:29.49 | Fisker- | But you know politic peer pressure can be :P |
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| 17:30.30 | Fisker- | But the best thing was that it was linux!1 |
| 17:30.43 | Fisker- | I remember the zealotry back then |
| 17:31.02 | kenlyric | back then? |
| 17:31.03 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: understandable that they weren't too happy about it... they weren't too happy about the u.s. kidnapping a german muslim either... :> |
| 17:31.05 | Fisker- | "Omg valve got hacked because of windows and vice versa" :P |
| 17:31.16 | Fisker- | Yeah linux zealots vs. microsoft zealots |
| 17:31.36 | Kirkburn|afk | trh, true, very true |
| 17:31.48 | Fisker- | To be honest though i believe they actually had fixes out for the exploit that was used when they got hacked |
| 17:32.02 | kenlyric | I like that new mac/pc commercial, about vista's contant ignore/allow warnings. |
| 17:32.10 | Fisker- | It's not new |
| 17:32.14 | Elkano | it's not that new... |
| 17:32.21 | shieldb | kenlyric, link? |
| 17:32.21 | Fisker- | :P |
| 17:32.24 | Loki|muh | i like the mac/pc/linux commercial :) |
| 17:32.28 | kenlyric | Because, of course, if you run a mac or linux as a limited user, you get the same kind of popups. |
| 17:32.30 | Loki|muh | linux is sexy ^^ |
| 17:32.32 | Fisker- | They made a new one with vista being bloated with trialware and so on |
| 17:32.34 | Elkano | loki, the fakes? |
| 17:32.43 | Kirkburn|afk | The Mac/PC ads are full of lies and half-truths |
| 17:32.43 | Fisker- | kenlyric yeah, although not as frequent |
| 17:32.48 | kenlyric | and if you run either of those as root for your daily work... well, you're a lot secure than you are on a windows box. |
| 17:33.04 | kenlyric | considering that Macs frequently come with the ssh server turned on. |
| 17:33.13 | Loki|muh | Elkano: they are not really fake, I think they are from novell or so |
| 17:33.14 | Kirkburn|afk | They've started them in the UK, and it pisses me to hell off |
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| 17:33.30 | Loki|muh | but they are not from apple ^^ |
| 17:33.32 | trh | Kirkburn|afk: every ad is full of lies |
| 17:33.48 | Kirkburn|afk | These are particularly loathsome |
| 17:33.49 | Fisker- | I hope they don't get to run them here |
| 17:33.52 | shieldb | Kirkburn|afk, you mean "The Mac/PC ads are full of marketing" ? |
| 17:33.57 | shieldb | ;) |
| 17:34.09 | hyperChipmunk | shocking |
| 17:34.10 | kenlyric | have you noticed they're trying to make PC less likeable? |
| 17:34.16 | Fisker- | Here it's against the law to use the competing companies name and trademarks and whatever in a commercial :) |
| 17:34.17 | kenlyric | and it's *still* not working |
| 17:34.30 | kenlyric | cause sorry, you can't ever make john unlikeable. |
| 17:34.37 | Fisker- | Yeah |
| 17:34.37 | hyperChipmunk | PC isn't trademarked |
| 17:34.40 | Kirkburn|afk | If they were actually mentioning stuff the Macs do /better/ it's be fine |
| 17:34.43 | Fisker- | Down with the mac duchebag! |
| 17:34.52 | Kirkburn|afk | But no, they mention stuff that PCs do better, but lie about it |
| 17:34.56 | Fisker- | hyperChipmunk no but they're using vista and xp for comparisons |
| 17:35.00 | hyperChipmunk | there are a few commercials that dont' mention microsoft specifically |
| 17:35.06 | Fisker- | Some |
| 17:35.08 | TecnoBrat | wow unrelated rant: dealing with a pay per click search engine, every click url is redirecting to the same site. they tell me "I have spyware on my computer", but I'm using lynx on a linux box to test .... gogo incompetent people. |
| 17:35.11 | kenlyric | I mean, the mac guy is exactly how you expect mac guys to be. Weasles, stuck up, and a little fruity. |
| 17:35.16 | trh | i'm so happy i gave up on TV =) |
| 17:35.41 | Loki|muh | trh: yeah, me too :) |
| 17:35.41 | Chompers | :O |
| 17:35.53 | Fisker- | Die in righteous fire "Errorsafe commercials" |
| 17:35.54 | trh | Loki|muh: german tv? ;) |
| 17:35.56 | Fisker- | amirite TecnoBrat? |
| 17:35.58 | Chompers | how can you give up on tv! |
| 17:36.08 | deltron | TecnoBrat: links > lynx |
| 17:36.08 | kenlyric | TV never gave up on you. |
| 17:36.09 | trh | Chompers: watch 2 hours of german tv, and you will! |
| 17:36.22 | kenlyric | In those times, TV carried you. |
| 17:36.24 | Chompers | are we talking proper tv, or downloaded tv? |
| 17:36.25 | kenlyric | trh: oh, that's not TV. |
| 17:36.25 | TecnoBrat | Fisker-, rofl |
| 17:36.26 | Loki|muh | trh: tv at all. no english/american series neither. |
| 17:36.33 | Fisker- | Wasn't there a company that thought they were hacked because someone had accessed their site using lynx btw? :D |
| 17:36.38 | TecnoBrat | Fisker-, do you happen to work in the ad industry? |
| 17:36.43 | Fisker- | nope |
| 17:36.47 | TecnoBrat | heh |
| 17:36.57 | TecnoBrat | errorsafe are the bane of my existence |
| 17:36.59 | trh | Loki|muh: i watch english/american series, but only with original audio... the synchronization sucks |
| 17:37.02 | TecnoBrat | f'in hate them |
| 17:37.05 | Fisker- | same |
| 17:37.13 | Fisker- | They're the only ads that stick through my adblocker |
| 17:37.16 | Fisker- | fuck them :P |
| 17:37.17 | kenlyric | oh, please tell me the PA guys hated LotRo. |
| 17:37.38 | TecnoBrat | fwiw, they are jackasses, they buy ads under random company names, and then maliciously slip their spyware crap in |
| 17:37.58 | TecnoBrat | 99% of ad agencies want nothing to do with them |
| 17:38.01 | trh | kenlyric: true.. i don't think it's much better in the US... except for the series ;) |
| 17:38.12 | Fisker- | unfortunately 1% do :o |
| 17:38.20 | Fisker- | That reminds me of this spyware my father got |
| 17:38.23 | Fisker- | It was sicked |
| 17:38.30 | Fisker- | they had replaced dns servers and everything |
| 17:38.43 | TecnoBrat | errorsafe and winfixer ugh |
| 17:38.44 | trh | Fisker-: adblock plus with some filter subscriptions is awesome |
| 17:39.11 | Chompers | + a modified hosts file |
| 17:39.16 | kenlyric | weatherbug! |
| 17:39.24 | Chompers | google hosts for it |
| 17:39.27 | trh | Chompers: i use noscript too, so no need for that usually :) |
| 17:39.31 | kenlyric | it brings you the weather and brings down your network. |
| 17:39.45 | Chompers | i found noscript too hard :/ |
| 17:40.04 | trh | Chompers: if you add those few sites you use regulary it works very nie |
| 17:40.06 | trh | nice |
| 17:40.40 | Elkano | true true... you most likely only need googleanalytics and doubleclick blacklisted ;) |
| 17:41.04 | Elkano | which may go down to one filter soon ;) |
| 17:41.39 | kenlyric | yeah, cause those are the cookies I worry about... |
| 17:42.12 | trh | actually.. i've always searched for a firefox plugin with whom you can mark "bad" cookies, so they get deleted after every session |
| 17:42.32 | kenlyric | I want them to know about hemp belt and deathmetal hobbies. |
| 17:42.51 | kenlyric | s/about/about my/ |
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| 17:43.24 | kenlyric | I still can't believe the bot translates that. |
| 17:43.55 | trh | kenlyric: ya, she's clever |
| 17:44.10 | trh | s/she/it/ |
| 17:44.41 | kenlyric | I healed your FACE! |
| 17:44.50 | Chompers | Elkano: very upto date there :P |
| 17:45.00 | Punkie` | hello |
| 17:45.00 | trh | i wonder though if the regexp could be exploited in any way for a dos attack or maybe a buffer overflow |
| 17:45.05 | kenlyric | man, I'm stoked to raid again with my new melee dps attitude. |
| 17:45.10 | Punkie` | s/hello/punkie is amazing/ |
| 17:45.15 | Punkie` | it's true |
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| 17:45.25 | *** part/#wowace Nightdew_ (n=Nightdew@68.143.218.130.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 17:45.38 | Punkie` | ~mudkip |
| 17:45.39 | purl | So, punkie` i herd you liek mudkips |
| 17:45.43 | Punkie` | :o |
| 17:45.49 | kenlyric | is anyone on the tubes keeping track of what they're changing from the initial patch notes? |
| 17:46.16 | Megalon | Elkano: EEBs won't use the alpha settings in a bar group |
| 17:46.18 | Megalon | for new buffs |
| 17:46.35 | Megalon | only for the buffs i currently have |
| 17:47.41 | Chompers | i like mudkips, what of it? |
| 17:47.52 | Chompers | (whats a mudkip?) |
| 17:48.11 | kenlyric | I would guess it's because the patch notes don't fill themselves in as we make changes. |
| 17:48.14 | kenlyric | pwned |
| 17:48.26 | kenlyric | Drysc healed someone's FACE! |
| 17:49.53 | deltron | ehh |
| 17:50.06 | TecnoBrat | Fisker-, I just got an email back .. "proving" I have spyware. They sent me a screenshot of the XML loaded in firefox |
| 17:50.12 | deltron | I LOVE MUDKIPS!!!!!!!! |
| 17:52.41 | Fisker- | :o TecnoBrat |
| 17:52.46 | Fisker- | screens or it didn't happen |
| 17:52.49 | Fisker- | purl, literal mudkip |
| 17:52.51 | purl | "mudkip" is "<reply> So, $nick i herd you liek mudkips" |
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| 17:53.09 | TecnoBrat | Fisker-, aparantly, yea |
| 17:53.10 | Fisker- | ~mudkip purl |
| 17:53.26 | TecnoBrat | ~mudkip |
| 17:53.28 | purl | So, tecnobrat i herd you liek mudkips |
| 17:53.48 | Fisker- | purl, slowpoke is <reply>, Hello and welcome to the Ace1 community |
| 17:53.50 | purl | Fisker-: okay |
| 17:53.53 | Fisker- | ~slowpoke |
| 17:53.55 | purl | , Hello and welcome to the Ace1 community |
| 17:54.01 | Fisker- | purl, slowpoke is <reply>$nick, Hello and welcome to the Ace1 community |
| 17:54.02 | purl | ...but slowpoke is already something else... |
| 17:54.06 | Fisker- | purl, no slowpoke is <reply>$nick, Hello and welcome to the Ace1 community |
| 17:54.07 | purl | Fisker-: okay |
| 17:54.10 | Fisker- | ~slowpoke |
| 17:54.12 | purl | fisker-, Hello and welcome to the Ace1 community |
| 17:54.15 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 17:54.44 | TecnoBrat | lol I cant wait until someone else uses that in another channel :P |
| 17:55.39 | Fisker- | purl, no slowpoke is <reply>$nick, welcome and have a happy new millenium |
| 17:55.40 | purl | Fisker-: okay |
| 17:55.41 | Fisker- | there |
| 17:55.46 | Fisker- | fixed forever |
| 17:55.55 | kenlyric | meh, I didn't bookmark that forum link. |
| 17:56.05 | kenlyric | stupid blue tracker should have a smarter search. |
| 17:56.41 | Fisker- | qq moar |
| 17:56.53 | Fisker- | Annoys me a lot though |
| 17:56.53 | Fisker- | My whole school is banned 90 days from 4chan |
| 17:56.55 | Fisker- | and they banned my proxy too |
| 17:56.58 | Fisker- | forever :O |
| 17:58.06 | snurre- | that's not a ban, it's a temporary suspension :p |
| 17:58.07 | Fisker- | i love Encyclopedia Dramatica |
| 17:58.20 | Fisker- | Proxy wasn't temporary :( |
| 17:58.41 | snurre- | pwnd |
| 17:59.00 | kenlyric | fisker, no more gay porn photoshops? |
| 17:59.05 | kenlyric | how will you survive? |
| 17:59.37 | Fisker- | http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Image:Anon_did_vtech.jpg <-lol it even made the newspapers |
| 18:00.51 | kenlyric | what, you did that? |
| 18:01.01 | Fisker- | not me :o |
| 18:01.09 | kenlyric | you collective, your school? |
| 18:01.15 | Fisker- | Someone from /b/ photoshopped a comment indicating that the shooter was from 4chan |
| 18:01.25 | Fisker- | Atleast i think so :P |
| 18:04.12 | kenlyric | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96054119 "Omg I healed your FACE! 5k CRIT!" |
| 18:04.36 | kenlyric | Best healer post since "priests are like the starship enterprise with sheilds and lazers" |
| 18:05.06 | hyperChipmunk | O_o [Chestguard of Exile] |
| 18:05.24 | Chompers | is it sad i rightclicked that? |
| 18:05.31 | the_squid | lol |
| 18:05.33 | the_squid | i just tried too |
| 18:05.39 | the_squid | i'm my defense, it's 3:30am |
| 18:05.50 | kenlyric | I assumed it was a feature of the bot :) |
| 18:06.02 | kenlyric | links in my irc client don't show as underlined. |
| 18:06.23 | hyperChipmunk | i should have colored it =x |
| 18:06.32 | Saroz | [Ammo], the proximity thing hides all the time, on wipes I think |
| 18:09.11 | kenlyric | links don't show as colored either. |
| 18:15.46 | *** join/#wowace Shyva (n=n0time@sd511586e.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 18:19.05 | Saroz | ok this proximity shit is fubar |
| 18:19.07 | [Ammo] | Saroz: it should come back again |
| 18:19.16 | [Ammo] | it worked, but maybe something got screwed |
| 18:19.45 | Saroz | I got the same 5 people on it now |
| 18:19.46 | Saroz | on gruul |
| 18:19.49 | Saroz | it's not changing |
| 18:20.04 | [Ammo] | I'll check it out |
| 18:20.18 | Saroz | kk |
| 18:20.24 | [Ammo] | and calling it shit doesn't help me, telling me what's wrong does |
| 18:20.49 | hyperChipmunk | it was written by a retard |
| 18:20.58 | hyperChipmunk | that's mainly what's wrong |
| 18:20.59 | [Ammo] | yeah it was |
| 18:22.00 | Saroz | anyway, I disabled it and renabled it and it works now |
| 18:22.06 | NeoTron | so anyone know of an addon that does a few things of what necrosis doeS: shard management (delete shards not fitting in a bag or if you have more than X shards) primarily |
| 18:22.06 | Saroz | did it in combat |
| 18:22.12 | kenlyric | it's because proximity indicators belong in a proximity mod, not a boss mod. |
| 18:22.14 | [Ammo] | Saroz: combat doesn't matter |
| 18:22.25 | Saroz | was just saying |
| 18:22.29 | [Ammo] | yeah ok |
| 18:22.34 | [Ammo] | I'll check out what is wrong |
| 18:22.49 | [Ammo] | updating my addons here atm |
| 18:22.57 | [Ammo] | then I'll go find me a winterwolf and run some tests :) |
| 18:23.04 | Saroz | haha |
| 18:23.04 | kenlyric | which I believe is the exact phrase used here when DBM added a proximity detection for curator and maiden... |
| 18:23.11 | NeoTron | speaking of proximity, deadly boss mods has some proximity warning for shatter |
| 18:23.24 | NeoTron | is this something similar to bigwigs? |
| 18:23.28 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: no-one decided to code a stand-alone one |
| 18:24.20 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: it's basically BigWigs_GruulAssist made more generic and implemented as an Extras module that you can disable delete etc |
| 18:25.03 | NeoTron | [Ammo]: ok |
| 18:25.10 | NeoTron | so bigwigs does have this |
| 18:25.11 | NeoTron | good to know |
| 18:27.53 | kenlyric | bigwigs does now |
| 18:28.00 | kenlyric | that's what they're talking about at this very moment... |
| 18:30.21 | NeoTron | that's what I was verifying |
| 18:30.29 | NeoTron | so base bigwigs now, optionally enabled addon? |
| 18:30.48 | hyperChipmunk | rather, it would if it wasn't coded by a retard =) |
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| 18:32.29 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r33013 10BigWigs/Extras/Proximity.lua: BigWigs: make sure the proximity window reappears after a wipe. |
| 18:40.37 | Fisker- | y helo thar [Ammo] |
| 18:46.05 | Gnarfoz | durrrrr |
| 18:46.06 | Pneu | you know you code too much when you assign one of your G15 G-Keys to reloadui |
| 18:46.28 | Fisker- | no you don't |
| 18:46.34 | Fisker- | go in edit write /rl |
| 18:46.46 | Fisker- | well technically it's //rrll |
| 18:47.23 | Fisker- | although you could also mean that you just use reload ui that much that you programmed a key for it |
| 18:47.27 | Fisker- | ~flee |
| 18:47.31 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
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| 18:48.46 | Fisker- | i'm gonna chillax |
| 18:48.47 | Fisker- | so bye |
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| 18:52.36 | CIA-11 | 03sbu * r33014 10Tattle/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Tattle: added EU Blackout / Cataclysme / Todbringer |
| 18:53.45 | sbu | <3 Saroz |
| 18:53.48 | sbu | thx for fubar alchemy :) |
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| 18:54.56 | Dynom | Gemlist is broken >_< |
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| 19:01.58 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33015 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fix issue where modifiers wouldn't work |
| 19:07.02 | Pneu | anyone played around with writing their own DKP modules for Bidder/DKPMon? |
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| 19:14.58 | hyperChipmunk | lol baseball announcer just used the video telestrator to do some long division on some statistics |
| 19:16.01 | Gnarfoz | to do what? |
| 19:16.34 | hyperChipmunk | to get a percentage on a pair of numbers the other announcer had quoted |
| 19:16.48 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 19:17.07 | kenlyric | was the math righT? |
| 19:17.16 | hyperChipmunk | they were discussing it, and all th sudden some math comes up on the corner of the screen |
| 19:17.19 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 19:17.23 | kenlyric | that's sexy. |
| 19:17.47 | hyperChipmunk | was awesome |
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| 19:18.11 | Saroz | sbu :p |
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| 19:22.49 | Nicken | Stupid blizzard downloader stopped at 96% :-( |
| 19:26.19 | Dynom | :P |
| 19:27.34 | sbu | Saroz: pretty annoying if you have to make potions before raiding, with some ppl in your group making water, ... - almost impossible to count procs ;) |
| 19:28.50 | sbu | ahh <3 anubis@sg1 :p |
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| 19:34.13 | Saroz | sbu :) needs some more statistics and shit, but well |
| 19:34.42 | sbu | yep |
| 19:34.45 | sbu | nice :) |
| 19:35.10 | sbu | inc. gladiator's war staff :) |
| 19:35.16 | Gnarfoz | noes |
| 19:35.17 | sbu | (me holy priest :p) |
| 19:35.25 | Gnarfoz | who broke Highlighting in Aloft/ |
| 19:35.40 | sbu | well - blame Mikma |
| 19:35.52 | Gnarfoz | good idea |
| 19:35.58 | Gnarfoz | Mikma: fix it, like... now |
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| 19:37.02 | Mikma | i can fix it fast |
| 19:37.07 | Mikma | but i will be hated after it |
| 19:37.19 | Mikma | and i'm afraid that my account gets deleted |
| 19:37.59 | sbu | oh |
| 19:38.01 | sbu | tell me |
| 19:38.12 | sbu | sounds interesting |
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| 19:38.36 | Mikma | svn remove http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/aloft |
| 19:38.38 | Gnarfoz | that sounds like a risk worth taking |
| 19:38.48 | sbu | ahh ok svn account |
| 19:38.48 | Gnarfoz | it's just your account after all |
| 19:39.02 | Mikma | yeaha |
| 19:39.16 | Mikma | i don't need it anymore, i got my own now <3 |
| 19:39.23 | sbu | i thought you are going to do something HUEG - affecting your rl account (or worse: your wow account) |
| 19:39.34 | Gnarfoz | cancel your rl subscription |
| 19:39.39 | Saroz | life subscription |
| 19:39.40 | Gnarfoz | it's worthless anyway |
| 19:39.50 | Mikma | i've tried to get banned in wow before, with weak success |
| 19:40.10 | Mikma | only way i have been banned was telling some assclown that i hope his mother gets a breastcancer |
| 19:43.12 | kenlyric | getting banned is quite easy. |
| 19:43.20 | kenlyric | it only took me 10 months. |
| 19:44.49 | Mikma | i tried to do it in a month |
| 19:44.53 | Mikma | wasn't able :D |
| 19:45.08 | Mikma | i explored, found holes in ground where i jumped and deleted my HS |
| 19:45.16 | Mikma | then i made a ticket that i'm stuck and i can't get up |
| 19:45.21 | sbu | use farmbots! |
| 19:45.32 | Mikma | first time i did this i went under ogrimmar as nelf priest |
| 19:45.47 | Mikma | second time i was under DireMaul |
| 19:46.22 | Mikma | the second time the gm teleported me to behind AQ40 and almost killed me |
| 19:46.39 | Mikma | he teleported me in middle of air and i fell a long way down |
| 19:46.45 | Mikma | then i mounted up and ran :D |
| 19:46.57 | trh | i once died in silithus and respawned in crossroads |
| 19:46.57 | Mikma | after few mins he teleported me infront of SW gates :( |
| 19:47.00 | trh | i was so pissed |
| 19:47.15 | kenlyric | trh... please. |
| 19:47.29 | kenlyric | for weeks when you died in silithus, you'd get rezzed in westfall. |
| 19:47.35 | Gnarfoz | or crossroads |
| 19:47.45 | kenlyric | or always westfall, horde scum. |
| 19:47.53 | Mikma | well |
| 19:48.07 | Mikma | we tried to run at the end of the world in draenei startplace |
| 19:48.15 | Mikma | i died because i was stupid and got spawned in westfall |
| 19:48.23 | kenlyric | that cave in the south where you had to kil that guy's daughter... her room was outside of silithus. |
| 19:48.30 | Mikma | my corpse was at the middle of ocean |
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| 19:49.09 | kenlyric | at least they allow spirit rezzes :) |
| 19:49.20 | Mikma | yeah hehe |
| 19:49.27 | trh | but they were damn expensive in full t2 back then ^^ |
| 19:49.41 | Mikma | with lvl1 priest you can outheal the fatique <3 |
| 19:49.42 | kenlyric | I once afk ran off of tanaris, and didn't want to SR... took me like 4 tries to get ack into water that didn't kill me. |
| 19:52.33 | trh | ewwww... don't drink juice you had a day in your room when it's warm outside |
| 19:52.43 | hyperChipmunk | =x |
| 19:52.46 | hyperChipmunk | i hear that =P |
| 19:53.00 | Ominous | great router drops i-net connection and now i cant authenticate my connection to wow |
| 19:53.34 | trh | although it tastes a bit like it fermented |
| 19:57.57 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r33017 10Tattle/ (15 files in 15 dirs): |
| 19:57.57 | CIA-11 | Tattle: |
| 19:57.57 | CIA-11 | - Update all US data |
| 19:58.30 | ckknight | uploading my next southernjesse video now |
| 19:58.30 | Gnarfoz | my eu login server is down |
| 19:58.30 | Gnarfoz | hates me :< |
| 19:58.35 | ckknight | today's topic: Taxes |
| 19:58.47 | Gnarfoz | I want my damn paladin epic mount |
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| 19:59.26 | trh | Gnarfoz: ewww.... paladin |
| 19:59.33 | ckknight | hey, paladins ftw |
| 19:59.39 | ckknight | trh: what's wrong with paladins? |
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| 20:00.06 | trh | ckknight: they are so much better than shamans it's a shame it took blizzard so long to make them available to horde |
| 20:00.24 | ckknight | true |
| 20:00.29 | trh | and i hate arena teams which have paladins |
| 20:00.32 | Gnarfoz_ | disconnected, but sounds someone picked up the topic change to "paladins" ;D |
| 20:00.33 | trh | they are so hard to kill |
| 20:00.35 | ckknight | unstoppable! |
| 20:00.50 | Gnarfoz_ | *sounds like |
| 20:00.54 | ckknight | Gnarfoz_: trh was commenting on how paladins suck |
| 20:01.03 | Gnarfoz_ | no u! |
| 20:01.06 | Gnarfoz_ | he wouldn't |
| 20:01.07 | Gnarfoz_ | :< |
| 20:01.08 | ckknight | and I was explaining that no, in fact the suckage lies in trh's hands |
| 20:01.19 | Gnarfoz_ | so you mean... trh sucks? |
| 20:01.21 | Gnarfoz_ | =P |
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| 20:02.04 | NeoTron | as alliance I'm curious why horde complain so much about shamans |
| 20:02.17 | NeoTron | perhaps because everyone only tried using them for HEALING rather than the suppiort buffing they are best at? |
| 20:02.24 | Gnarfoz_ | totems suck |
| 20:02.25 | Gnarfoz_ | :D |
| 20:02.34 | Gnarfoz_ | they don't move with the shaman :< |
| 20:02.39 | trh | NeoTron: ya.. you got dwarf priests |
| 20:02.46 | trh | NeoTron: try pre-bc encounters without them |
| 20:02.48 | deltron | totems are a HUGE pain in the ass |
| 20:02.58 | trh | NeoTron: and only with that stupid tremor totem |
| 20:03.00 | nymbia | its not hard to stand near em |
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| 20:03.19 | kenlyric | dorfs are for the lazy. |
| 20:03.20 | Gnarfoz_ | nymbia: oh yes it is with 20y range |
| 20:03.22 | deltron | kenlyric: HUSH YOU! |
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| 20:03.27 | deltron | err kergoth |
| 20:03.32 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:03.36 | deltron | kergoth: yeah, and it was tranquil air totem also :P |
| 20:03.47 | kergoth | hahah |
| 20:03.48 | NeoTron | trh: I've done pre-bc encounters without a dwarf priest |
| 20:03.58 | trh | NeoTron: and without salvation? |
| 20:04.05 | NeoTron | of course not >:-) |
| 20:04.07 | deltron | I'm addicted to salvation |
| 20:04.18 | NeoTron | i'm not saying shamans re better or worse than paladins |
| 20:04.19 | deltron | I can actually mostly go all-out all the time |
| 20:04.24 | Mikma | anyone playing priest here? |
| 20:04.25 | nymbia | i repeat: it's not hard to stand near em. i've raided plenty as alliance after TBC, and plenty as horde before TBC. it's absolutely not difficult |
| 20:04.33 | NeoTron | I am saying now people can stop complaining about shamsn because they are fricking kicass to have in agroup |
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| 20:04.54 | kebinusan | <3 heroism |
| 20:04.57 | deltron | shaman have been nerfed lately |
| 20:05.01 | deltron | <3 bloodlust |
| 20:05.02 | trh | NeoTron: in pve they are alot worse... they can heal pretty good (like paladins), but in terms of raid buffing/supporting paladins win |
| 20:05.06 | NeoTron | but, especially, horde players still seem to whine about how crappy their or their guilds shamans are |
| 20:05.14 | kebinusan | hmm, is anyone else not seeing comparisons on ratingbuster with the latest update? |
| 20:05.22 | deltron | they just need good shaman |
| 20:05.24 | NeoTron | trh: don't pick one. pick both |
| 20:05.26 | NeoTron | ftw |
| 20:05.33 | sbu | harldephin: stop, go back! final andromeda season :p |
| 20:05.40 | deltron | I think I'm a decent shaman, and I have decent shaman in my guild |
| 20:05.48 | trh | NeoTron: give horde fear ward and we will stop complaining ^^ |
| 20:05.49 | deltron | recruited them |
| 20:05.57 | deltron | fear ward is a crutch! |
| 20:06.03 | NeoTron | trh: Trust me I am confused why blizzard didn't fix that issue |
| 20:06.09 | kebinusan | fear ward sucks |
| 20:06.10 | NeoTron | giving fear ward to BE's |
| 20:06.11 | harldephin | sbu: i already know all of it anyway. |
| 20:06.14 | kebinusan | its not worth it |
| 20:06.17 | NeoTron | kebinusan: no, really, it doesn't |
| 20:06.24 | NeoTron | fear ward is really good |
| 20:06.25 | trh | the best thing was that they said that fear doesnt play a major role in tbc fights |
| 20:06.33 | trh | yea... try to do nightbane with a druid tank |
| 20:06.34 | NeoTron | it solves, entirely, the fear issue in nightbane |
| 20:06.50 | NeoTron | even with warrior stance dance it's a very short window on that fight |
| 20:07.00 | NeoTron | so if the warrior has higher latency or is a bit slower, gg |
| 20:07.01 | deltron | tremor totem sucks for breaking fear |
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| 20:07.09 | NeoTron | tremor totem is not comparable |
| 20:07.10 | kebinusan | cause every raid has a dwarf priest, honestly if your tanks learn to stance dance it youd have no problems anyway |
| 20:07.19 | trh | ya.. not to mention a few heroic instances.. fear, bam, healer dead |
| 20:07.37 | NeoTron | kebinusan: it's a very useful racial |
| 20:07.41 | NeoTron | that's all there is to it |
| 20:07.52 | NeoTron | WITH fearward on fear-fights is always easier |
| 20:07.52 | NeoTron | period |
| 20:07.57 | deltron | I think it's crap that they have 2 races that have fearward |
| 20:08.06 | deltron | BUT, I think all draenei should be shaman |
| 20:08.15 | deltron | but i'm a biased shaman :) |
| 20:08.18 | kebinusan | sure its a useful racial but its not game breaking, and in fact just makes your tanks lazy... oops dwarf didnt get fear ward up tank didnt stance dance dead tank |
| 20:08.21 | NeoTron | and as alliance no-dwarf (or now draenei) priest, I suffered quite a lot in raiding in the past |
| 20:08.25 | NeoTron | and it's still the case |
| 20:08.36 | kebinusan | our tanks actually hated fear ward |
| 20:08.41 | kebinusan | and prefered to stance dance it |
| 20:08.42 | NeoTron | then they are dumb~ |
| 20:08.47 | NeoTron | they can still stance dance if they want to |
| 20:08.54 | NeoTron | but if they mess up things still work |
| 20:09.31 | kenlyric | i refuse to roll dwarf just for fear ward, which is what a lot of people did. |
| 20:09.43 | kebinusan | and Ive been in two too many guilds where its omg cant do nef/gluth tonight no dwarf priest |
| 20:09.43 | kenlyric | granted, I rolled night elf, but I didn't know any better back then. |
| 20:09.59 | kenlyric | and I fixed the error when I rerolled. |
| 20:10.06 | NeoTron | kenlyric: as did I and I did regret that choice |
| 20:10.28 | NeoTron | but no more as I rerolled as a lock |
| 20:10.35 | NeoTron | and I doubt I'll have the energy to roll a priest |
| 20:10.36 | kenlyric | draenei aren't a bad choice, since their party mana regen is a decent ability. |
| 20:10.46 | NeoTron | but if I did, it'd a draenei |
| 20:10.54 | NeoTron | the free hot is nice too |
| 20:11.02 | NeoTron | I dunno how it scales but early on it kicks major butt |
| 20:11.03 | kenlyric | 10% spirit 4life |
| 20:11.16 | mikebro | Where is fearward useful in raiding now? I haven't raided much... Only place I've seen seems to maybe be mag trash |
| 20:11.23 | NeoTron | mikebro: Nightbane |
| 20:11.32 | kebinusan | nightbane, high king below 50% |
| 20:11.32 | NeoTron | not sure what else |
| 20:11.32 | trh | kebinusan: sure, fear ward is not gamebreaking, but it's BIG advantage for alliance pve |
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| 20:12.00 | NeoTron | the problem with rolling an alt is I can't just level to 70 and go raid |
| 20:12.04 | kebinusan | its not that big of an advantage, its just a difference |
| 20:12.08 | NeoTron | need to do the rep grinds, the attunements, the gah |
| 20:12.08 | mikebro | I'd barely call fearward on nightbane useful, unless you have a bear tank |
| 20:12.13 | trh | kebinusan: it's abig advantage |
| 20:12.19 | kebinusan | 10% more stam on taurens, stun resist on orcs, those are bigger advantages |
| 20:12.31 | trh | kebinusan: a feared tank brings alot of chaos in the raid |
| 20:12.42 | NeoTron | it's 5% more health |
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| 20:12.58 | NeoTron | and back when horde had no paladins every alliance noob said that blessing of kings really isn't that big of an advantage |
| 20:13.01 | trh | yay.. 5% more like.. what's it.... like half a hit in raids? |
| 20:13.19 | NeoTron | put into perspective though, 5% is more than the 2.1 flask of fortification |
| 20:13.28 | mikebro | if a warrior gets feared on nightbane, they screwed up bad. he fears really infrequently |
| 20:13.39 | trh | NeoTron: if your tank gets lower than 5% health you're wiping anyway |
| 20:14.02 | NeoTron | trh: not necessarily. Have had tanks survive with very little health and getting good timed heals |
| 20:14.08 | trh | mikebro: hello... listen.. DRUID tank |
| 20:14.11 | trh | mikebro: no stance-dance |
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| 20:14.34 | trh | NeoTron: but the healers adapt to the tanks health |
| 20:14.34 | NeoTron | <joke>OMG droods bares can't tank l2playnoobwtf!</joke> |
| 20:14.45 | NeoTron | Sometimes you get lucky |
| 20:14.57 | NeoTron | meaning the tank got hit twice for all but a few hundred HP |
| 20:15.04 | NeoTron | you can't predict damage on Maulgar |
| 20:15.14 | NeoTron | more proactive heal fights than reactive |
| 20:15.16 | kenlyric | druid tank means there's no time between my gheals :) |
| 20:15.16 | trh | NeoTron: if we're talking about pre-bc, blessing of kings made that 5% more tauren health seem crap |
| 20:15.30 | NeoTron | trh: that was my point |
| 20:15.38 | NeoTron | people will always whine |
| 20:15.39 | kenlyric | druid tank also eating bolts on curator = pain. |
| 20:15.43 | trh | kenlyric: bad druid tank ;) |
| 20:15.48 | trh | kenlyric: bad equipeed prolly |
| 20:15.54 | NeoTron | kenlyric: how can the druid tank eat bolts? |
| 20:15.59 | kergoth | i'm thinking about rolling a warrior... horde.. any opinion on race? |
| 20:16.01 | NeoTron | unless he/she is the bolt eater |
| 20:16.07 | NeoTron | kenlyric: gnome |
| 20:16.11 | kenlyric | neotron... too much dee pee esss? |
| 20:16.28 | NeoTron | well true |
| 20:16.36 | NeoTron | I did pull aggro from the warruir in the last two kills I was in |
| 20:16.38 | trh | kergoth: depends on what you want to do with him |
| 20:16.39 | kenlyric | or if the bolt eater doesn't get topped off fast enough. |
| 20:16.50 | trh | kergoth: pvp => go undead, pve => go tauren |
| 20:17.06 | kergoth | hmmmmk |
| 20:17.07 | mikebro | orc is a good choice as well |
| 20:17.08 | sbu | hmmm well |
| 20:17.09 | NeoTron | orc isn't a bad choice - stun resist is nice for encounters with stuns (although I can't think of any atm) |
| 20:17.18 | sbu | will of the forsaken? |
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| 20:17.29 | trh | mikebro: i'd say orc is good in both, but not very good in either of them |
| 20:17.29 | NeoTron | kenlyric: nah the MT never takes bolt unless he loses aggro |
| 20:17.31 | trh | like a middle-thing |
| 20:17.39 | kenlyric | neotron... nope. |
| 20:17.45 | kenlyric | I've seen it happen, more than once. |
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| 20:18.12 | trh | kenlyric: our druid rarely eats bolts, we got 2 warlocks standing nearby to eat them |
| 20:18.14 | kenlyric | one of our best attempts on him before we downed him the tank was taking bolts and hits from him too. |
| 20:18.17 | NeoTron | perhaps the MT is in the very bottom of the hitlist but I know for sure I've never seen it |
| 20:18.28 | kenlyric | didn't know until it was over and checked the logs. |
| 20:18.50 | kenlyric | I don't completely understand how a "primary aggro list" is formed. |
| 20:19.13 | kenlyric | but if it starts at the beginning of evocate, seems like it could be anyone. |
| 20:19.22 | kenlyric | (except me, I'm not dumb enough to heal during evocate) |
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| 20:20.17 | NeoTron | based on threat generated, resetting each evokate or something like that |
| 20:20.18 | kenlyric | s/I'm not dumb enough/I don't have enough mana/ |
| 20:20.34 | NeoTron | l2shadow priest? :P |
| 20:20.38 | NeoTron | or l2kill in 2 evocates? |
| 20:20.54 | kenlyric | I can't wait until our dps can bring curator down after second evocate so I can shadowfiend on first evocate. |
| 20:21.24 | kenlyric | trust me, when a druid tank is getting beat on and taking bolts, even the pallies run out of mana :) |
| 20:21.37 | kenlyric | well, figuratively, since that's not actually possible. |
| 20:23.08 | Chompers | dont you have a second tank to take the bolts? |
| 20:23.32 | kenlyric | yes, it's called a warlock :) |
| 20:23.37 | Chompers | :p |
| 20:23.54 | trh | anyone else wonders when warlocks getting nerfed? =) |
| 20:24.13 | NeoTron | trh: they aren't |
| 20:24.15 | NeoTron | next |
| 20:24.24 | trh | they deserve it :> |
| 20:24.39 | NeoTron | because they can do competetive DPS? |
| 20:24.41 | NeoTron | hardly |
| 20:24.44 | kenlyric | from what I understand, patches 1.1 - 1.12 were warlock nerfs. |
| 20:24.59 | NeoTron | they already also nerfed the dot-spell dmg coefficients |
| 20:25.05 | trh | because of skillcoil + fear and not even getting out of fear before you got 30% hp left |
| 20:25.11 | kenlyric | kinda like how patches 0.5 - 2.1 are priest nerfs (1.10 the only exception) |
| 20:25.15 | Pneu | happycoil :< |
| 20:25.35 | NeoTron | trh: because no other class can get out of fear or have abilities that surpass fear |
| 20:25.38 | NeoTron | at all |
| 20:25.38 | kenlyric | meh, people who talk about nerfs and then aabout pvp need to die slow horrible deaths. Involving insects. |
| 20:25.48 | NeoTron | IMHO having pvp at all was a mistake |
| 20:25.51 | kenlyric | gtfo to a pvp game. |
| 20:25.54 | NeoTron | just brings out bad crap |
| 20:25.57 | kenlyric | guild wars = pvp |
| 20:25.59 | Chompers | pvp is great fun |
| 20:26.00 | kenlyric | wow = pve |
| 20:26.06 | trh | NeoTron: only warriors and undeads |
| 20:26.07 | Chompers | arenas a riot |
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| 20:26.13 | kenlyric | Chompers: not when they break pve to fix pvp |
| 20:26.14 | NeoTron | a lot of game breaking changes are caused by pvp |
| 20:26.19 | trh | NeoTron: true |
| 20:26.22 | NeoTron | trh: mage ice block, paladin shield |
| 20:26.23 | yacoob | it's a good thing I don't know about that, kenlyric, and play pve in gw... :) |
| 20:26.27 | NeoTron | trinkets every fricking class has |
| 20:26.33 | NeoTron | (or will have come 2.1) |
| 20:26.36 | kenlyric | yacoob: you're doing it wrong. |
| 20:26.38 | Chompers | we need seperate specs for pve, pvp and raid |
| 20:26.39 | NeoTron | shaman tremor totem |
| 20:26.44 | NeoTron | dispelling in group pvp |
| 20:26.46 | trh | NeoTron: i could start ranting about hunters and how badly they got nerfed because of the stupid squishy whining in the boards.... |
| 20:26.55 | hyperChipmunk | my trinket only has stun,snare,immobilization |
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| 20:27.06 | NeoTron | hyperChipmunk: 2.1 probably changes that no? |
| 20:27.11 | kenlyric | trh: hunters sucked too bad to be nerfed. |
| 20:27.14 | Chompers | maybe just pve + pvp but have seperate talent trees for each |
| 20:27.15 | NeoTron | seems like they are standardizing the trinkets |
| 20:27.36 | Chompers | when i was a prot tank doing anything solo sucked |
| 20:27.38 | trh | Chompers: i like the idea of having 2 specs and being able to change between them |
| 20:27.38 | NeoTron | has anyone noticed how incredibly rare warlocks are in top-tier pvp arena teams? |
| 20:27.44 | NeoTron | do you think it's coincidence? |
| 20:27.52 | Chompers | perhhaps a 6hour cooldown |
| 20:27.56 | trh | NeoTron: noticed how rare hunters are? |
| 20:28.12 | Pneu | good hunters are always rare |
| 20:28.20 | knarf- | Hunters still rip my poor priest apart :< |
| 20:28.24 | Saint-N | what are these things called "good hunters" |
| 20:28.24 | knarf- | unless they are tards |
| 20:28.25 | knarf- | :P |
| 20:28.30 | deltron | huntards |
| 20:28.34 | trh | Pneu: you don't believe there are 0 skilled hunters for top-arena-teams, do you? |
| 20:28.38 | Saint-N | hunters always were and always will be priest food |
| 20:28.51 | Saint-N | it's as simple as that ;) |
| 20:28.53 | Chompers | really? |
| 20:28.53 | Pneu | we are too busy PvEing :) |
| 20:28.54 | trh | Pneu: (at least in 2v2 and 3v3) |
| 20:29.01 | Chompers | my shadow priest friend hates hunters |
| 20:29.02 | deltron | pvp is boring |
| 20:29.09 | NeoTron | It seems theer aer a lot of bad hunters |
| 20:29.11 | Saint-N | ive only lost to hunters twice |
| 20:29.15 | deltron | hunters should tear up any and all clothies |
| 20:29.16 | NeoTron | and I'm not saying hunters don't need love |
| 20:29.19 | NeoTron | I think they need a buff in dps |
| 20:29.20 | Saint-N | and its always a boar pet |
| 20:29.28 | NeoTron | but also it seems some hunters CAN dps just fine |
| 20:29.29 | kenlyric | Saint-N: hunter who doen't understand dead zone are even funnier. |
| 20:29.36 | Saint-N | haha yeah |
| 20:29.37 | NeoTron | just that the majority doesn't seem to know how |
| 20:29.38 | Chompers | :p |
| 20:29.42 | Chompers | melee hunters |
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| 20:29.45 | Saint-N | hit melee cant shoot wtf! |
| 20:29.50 | Saint-N | ahhhh i9m feared!!! |
| 20:30.01 | Saint-N | dammit he hit me for 2500 mb and whats the blue beam? |
| 20:30.11 | Saint-N | where are those damage ticks coming.... shit now i have to run back |
| 20:30.14 | kenlyric | that's why warlock will always be > hunter in pvp. Because warlocks don'tt have to get at range to be dangerous. |
| 20:30.31 | Pneu | neither do BM hunters |
| 20:30.37 | Pneu | my wind serpent will rip you a new one ;) |
| 20:30.38 | Chompers | stupid warlocks and their fears |
| 20:30.40 | gnorlish | warlocks are cloth however |
| 20:30.49 | gnorlish | they are susceptible to focus fire |
| 20:30.50 | NeoTron | hunters early on kick warlock butt |
| 20:30.51 | Saint-N | hehe in bg's i always kill hunter pets |
| 20:30.56 | Saint-N | just cuz its funny |
| 20:30.57 | trh | well.. if the hunter starts the fight and has enough space, he can kill nearly any class |
| 20:31.00 | Saint-N | same with lock pets |
| 20:31.01 | NeoTron | based on the firsr 30 levels |
| 20:31.09 | trh | but that isnt the case in the arena |
| 20:31.10 | hyperChipmunk | if you're a hunter, you just gotta make yourself useful in other ways; I made GM simply by being a really good field general in arathi basin |
| 20:31.18 | Pneu | lock pets dont have in excess of 12000 armor though, and 8000 hp |
| 20:31.21 | NeoTron | hunters are useful |
| 20:31.24 | NeoTron | but not as a core dps class |
| 20:31.40 | trh | NeoTron: ya... thats why it's better for a raid to take a *good* damage dealer |
| 20:31.41 | Saint-N | hyperChipmunk: did you uxe the eyes of the beast cheat to see where the mass of thier team was going at the start? |
| 20:31.47 | NeoTron | Pneu: but demo lock pets can have innate damage reduction from talents (demonic resilience) |
| 20:31.49 | trh | NeoTron: the only useful skill of a hunter is misdirection |
| 20:31.53 | trh | NeoTron: for a raid |
| 20:31.55 | kenlyric | because even without BM spec, a good 1/4 of their dps comes from their pets. Which they rarely use in raids. |
| 20:31.56 | NeoTron | nah |
| 20:32.00 | NeoTron | traps are useful |
| 20:32.03 | NeoTron | kiting can be useful |
| 20:32.10 | hyperChipmunk | I stand shadowmelded on that hill by the stables with my face in my map and just give orders |
| 20:32.15 | NeoTron | but one of our hunter deos competetive dps |
| 20:32.22 | trh | NeoTron: but you'd take a *insert perfect crowd control class for that raid* always before a hunter |
| 20:32.23 | Pneu | i often chain-trap in heroics for CC |
| 20:32.25 | NeoTron | in fact he got a new weapon and started pulling aggro due to dps |
| 20:32.42 | Saint-N | thers a eyes bug that you can sit before the gates open and focus on a flag pole and see where they are headed out of the gate |
| 20:32.53 | Saint-N | makes for an easy lopsideed ninja and demolish |
| 20:32.54 | deltron | BM is not that great of a raiding spec until patch, only because they have to stop dps'ing the boss/mob to stop and heal their pet |
| 20:32.54 | NeoTron | again though it comes back to a good <ANYtHING> is typically better than a mediocre <optimal class> |
| 20:33.07 | kenlyric | hunters are fine, but at least in karazhan I can't think of a single place you'd choose one over a warlock, mage, or priest. |
| 20:33.14 | hyperChipmunk | you mean eagle eye? |
| 20:33.16 | NeoTron | deltron: get better healers I say |
| 20:33.17 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 20:33.24 | deltron | yeah, I know |
| 20:33.28 | trh | NeoTron: ya... then he is a) to stupid to use feign death, and b) hutners dont have aggro reduction |
| 20:33.35 | Pneu | kenlyric: misdirection makes half the bosses a million times easier |
| 20:33.35 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: Why not just use Vent and be able to play at the same time? :) |
| 20:33.42 | NeoTron | but hunters seem to never want to use pets either even in fights where they shouldn't take damage |
| 20:33.44 | kenlyric | in karazhan? |
| 20:33.47 | Saint-N | we used to use that all the time to dominate ab |
| 20:33.51 | trh | Pneu: if you got a good tank you don't need misdirection in karazhan |
| 20:33.54 | NeoTron | trh: nah he's not too stupid. he just wasn't used to it |
| 20:33.59 | Saint-N | it got to the point where they'd see our group and afk |
| 20:34.03 | hyperChipmunk | i do |
| 20:34.10 | Saint-N | ahh those were good days ;) |
| 20:34.13 | NeoTron | trh: you never need it but it always helps |
| 20:34.15 | Pneu | kenlyric: attumen, r&j to name 2 of them |
| 20:34.22 | trh | NeoTron: but pulling aggro is far away from doing competative dps |
| 20:34.23 | kenlyric | I can't think of a single boss we range pull in karazhan |
| 20:34.35 | kenlyric | moroes I guess. |
| 20:34.38 | NeoTron | trh: perhaps but he was doing competetive dps that's my point |
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| 20:34.55 | trh | NeoTron: sure, a hunter can keep up in karazhan if the group has a feral druid and/or shamans giving agi totem |
| 20:35.09 | NeoTron | not top DPS but considering everything else be brings (like general melee dps buff, CC and misdirection) well worth the spot |
| 20:35.14 | Amadeo | Level 49 WSG queue, currently 20 minutes...so lame |
| 20:35.21 | trh | NeoTron: but if you'd build the group caster-friendlier (warlock+ shaman + shadow priest) the warlock will win with HUGE difference |
| 20:35.24 | Pneu | misdirection pulls on the ushers before opera makes them a million times easier |
| 20:35.41 | Chompers | i hate those ushers |
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| 20:35.59 | NeoTron | trh: sure |
| 20:36.01 | deltron | ushers are fun |
| 20:36.01 | Pneu | misdirect one of them to a rogue/mage and have them kited for ~30 sec while you burn the first one |
| 20:36.04 | Chompers | free action pots help |
| 20:36.08 | kenlyric | Pneu: especially if you misiderect to a pet on the far side of the room :) |
| 20:36.09 | NeoTron | Pneu: err |
| 20:36.14 | NeoTron | Pneu: that seems dumb :P |
| 20:36.25 | kenlyric | we always misdirect to a hunter pet if we have a hunter there. |
| 20:36.27 | deltron | that seems like a pain |
| 20:36.29 | NeoTron | if you run too far they teleport you back |
| 20:36.33 | kenlyric | he stays gone while the first one dies. |
| 20:36.36 | NeoTron | we just misdriect and use 2 tanks |
| 20:36.39 | NeoTron | never a problem nowadays |
| 20:36.51 | kenlyric | but we don't usually have a hunter. |
| 20:37.08 | Chompers | snake traps are good on julianne |
| 20:37.13 | Chompers | other than that, take a warlock :D |
| 20:37.13 | trh | Chompers: until 2.1.0 |
| 20:37.14 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r33018 10Tattle/ (data.lua dataminer.lua): Tattle: Fix talent assignment bug. |
| 20:37.24 | Pneu | snake traps arent gonna work on julianne after 2.1.0 |
| 20:37.27 | trh | Chompers: then the most useless skill we got |
| 20:37.40 | Pneu | she's gonna only target normal players, not pets/other |
| 20:37.51 | sbu | nymbia: ohno |
| 20:37.52 | trh | the damage snake trap does is a bad joke |
| 20:37.57 | sbu | nymbia: what does that mean? :o |
| 20:37.58 | trh | even worse then mongoose bite |
| 20:38.04 | hyperChipmunk | snake traps are way cool though |
| 20:38.06 | chuckg | It's not supposed to do damage.. |
| 20:38.06 | sbu | i have to re-gather all battlegroups? :p |
| 20:38.08 | hyperChipmunk | you have to admit that |
| 20:38.09 | nymbia | sbu: you don't wanna know ;) |
| 20:38.10 | Pneu | yeh, the damage sucks which means its only any use for the poisons |
| 20:38.14 | chuckg | It's supposed to provide poisons. |
| 20:38.14 | kenlyric | we can't figure out why they're nurfing romulo. |
| 20:38.16 | chuckg | And interrupts. |
| 20:38.17 | NeoTron | I am curious though, where does hunter damage start to such? |
| 20:38.17 | Pneu | and crip poison is always the last to get applied |
| 20:38.20 | chuckg | Whic his precisely what it does. |
| 20:38.21 | NeoTron | is it sustained long term damage? |
| 20:38.22 | kenlyric | he's such a pussy even with his buff. |
| 20:38.26 | NeoTron | or l70 scaling? |
| 20:38.26 | trh | chuckg: tell me for what it's useful, nearly every class kills them with a level 1 ae |
| 20:38.32 | Chompers | romulo was a bitch, took 2 weeks of wiping to down him |
| 20:38.33 | Amadeo | bleh, PvP is pointless in WoW now, all you do is wait in queues |
| 20:38.35 | trh | chuckg: for like 100 mana, while it costs me 300 to cast them |
| 20:38.38 | pastamancer | ah, but will snake traps still work on dorothy? |
| 20:38.53 | chuckg | Put one on a priest sometime. |
| 20:38.56 | mikebro | arena is pretty fun, and short queues |
| 20:38.58 | chuckg | Or a warlock. |
| 20:38.59 | Chompers | i had to buy lots new armor to down him, he just hit way too hard |
| 20:39.04 | chuckg | Or in arena, 5on5. |
| 20:39.07 | nymbia | sbu: i had assumed that you could just split the talent string in thirds and add up the numbers in the thirds, but no such luck.. so a lot of classes talent trees are off by one |
| 20:39.09 | chuckg | They're annoying as fuck. Shaman even. |
| 20:39.15 | chuckg | It fucks up dispells. |
| 20:39.18 | chuckg | CLeanses. |
| 20:39.18 | chuckg | ETc. |
| 20:39.21 | NeoTron | Chompers: did your dispellers slack? |
| 20:39.22 | kenlyric | how do you buy armor for a raid? |
| 20:39.23 | Pneu | Holy Nova y0 |
| 20:39.25 | sbu | nymbia: so really re-gather all stuff? :o |
| 20:39.32 | Chompers | nope, he just did too much damage |
| 20:39.37 | trh | chuckg: warlocks use hellfire once, in arena 5v5 they attack the sheep, priests (holy) - the ones that are annoying in the arena, holy nova once |
| 20:39.40 | Chompers | its was 8k in 2 second at times |
| 20:39.47 | NeoTron | he wasn't that bad normally |
| 20:39.47 | chuckg | What you don't realize is that's ah uge mana cost. |
| 20:42.49 | nymbia | sbu: well, we'll need to do that anyway regardless |
| 20:42.50 | chuckg | So it ost you 300 mana to do it. |
| 20:42.50 | kenlyric | if he hit too hard, your disepllers slacked. |
| 20:42.50 | NeoTron | now he's a joke |
| 20:42.50 | chuckg | One hellfire = 1k mana. |
| 20:42.50 | chuckg | And time lost. |
| 20:42.50 | NeoTron | pre-nerf he'd kill a good tank in 4 seconds if not dispelled |
| 20:42.51 | chuckg | Assuming the lock can even get one tick of w/ 9 targets on them. |
| 20:42.51 | trh | chuckg: it's a waste of mana/cooldowns, if on the other hand i could do a frost trap or freezing trap |
| 20:42.51 | sbu | nymbia: hmm - because of talent tree / team changes? |
| 20:42.51 | chuckg | I'm not saying it's the best. |
| 20:42.51 | nymbia | yeah |
| 20:42.52 | chuckg | But I dont agree it's entirely useless. |
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| 20:42.52 | trh | chuckg: it's crap to what mages/warlocks got between 50-70 |
| 20:42.53 | trh | 60-70 |
| 20:42.53 | trh | think of ice lance critting for 2k |
| 20:42.53 | NeoTron | seed of corruption |
| 20:42.54 | NeoTron | yum |
| 20:42.54 | trh | and they fucking nerf my silencing shot (41 point talent) to do even less damage |
| 20:42.54 | NeoTron | but that's really the only omg<3 skill |
| 20:42.54 | hyperChipmunk | snake trap is handy when kiting stuff immune to fire damage |
| 20:42.54 | kenlyric | you gotta wonder what the dev purpose of snake trap was. |
| 20:42.54 | trh | NeoTron: unstable affliction rocks too.. even if it is through talent |
| 20:42.55 | hyperChipmunk | besides |
| 20:42.55 | sbu | nymbia: mh - but we could add team names - its ~30% more lines (dont know about the data) |
| 20:42.56 | Chompers | to annoy people |
| 20:42.56 | kenlyric | except that, to give a nature damage trap |
| 20:42.56 | nymbia | man, i sure wish my priest's talented silence did 1500 damage |
| 20:42.56 | Chompers | except warriors, who thunderclap them |
| 20:42.56 | hyperChipmunk | they're still way-cool, and i'll use any excuse to cast 'em |
| 20:42.56 | nymbia | ;) |
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| 20:42.57 | Mikma | Tekkub: hi |
| 20:42.57 | sbu | just ranking -> name association |
| 20:42.57 | hyperChipmunk | pluse 3 bonus snakes next patch $$$ |
| 20:42.57 | Chompers | woo! |
| 20:42.57 | NeoTron | trh: UA is ok but not THAT nice |
| 20:42.57 | NeoTron | mind you I'm a pve priest |
| 20:42.58 | NeoTron | err lock |
| 20:43.23 | trh | i wonder how much damage the snakes do alltogether.. 200? |
| 20:43.23 | trh | for 300 mana? |
| 20:43.23 | kenlyric | it's especially not nice when you dispel it in mech. |
| 20:43.24 | NeoTron | biggest flaw with Ua is no talents to reduce interrupts |
| 20:43.39 | nymbia | sbu: well, i was thinking about what exactly we'll want to add.. maybe full talent trees, maybe profession info, maybe even gear.. but we'll see how big the data we have ends up being in-game before adding more stuff |
| 20:43.45 | NeoTron | I'm thinking I'll get my gear to a point where I don't need spell hit talents.. then I'll probably pick up UA agani |
| 20:43.52 | Mikma | _neuron_: is the support in yet? |
| 20:43.53 | trh | hyperChipmunk: ya.. snake trap has a massive style bonus.. but it's useless nontheless ;) |
| 20:43.56 | kenlyric | biggest flaw with UA is where dispell mods like decursive don't ignore it completely :) |
| 20:44.22 | kenlyric | DO NOT TOUCH |
| 20:44.26 | sbu | nymbia: hmm well - its not that big problem since you have only 1 battlegroup loaded at a time |
| 20:44.30 | Chompers | whats the name of this new arena profiling addon i keep hearing about? |
| 20:44.32 | trh | hehe.. i read of a palading dispelling UA (from a boss) on a rogue, paladin gets 6k damage, eye for an eye skilled, give the rogue damage too ;) |
| 20:44.35 | nymbia | snake trap is pro against classes with no aoe |
| 20:44.37 | sbu | and thats ~100kb at the moment |
| 20:44.50 | trh | nymbia: but practically there are no classes without aoe |
| 20:44.56 | kenlyric | trh, it critted on me once. |
| 20:45.03 | kenlyric | 9k... not fun. |
| 20:45.22 | trh | kenlyric: definitly fun! |
| 20:45.25 | NeoTron | trh: TEACH THAT ROGUE! HAH |
| 20:45.26 | NeoTron | :) |
| 20:45.38 | NeoTron | SW:Death crit on Curator fully debuffed ftw |
| 20:45.40 | kenlyric | but guess what, I don't dispel in that room. So I learned. |
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| 20:45.59 | trh | i always tell our rogues not to mess with the hunters... there might be a misdirect missdirected to them :P |
| 20:46.01 | kenlyric | I have not had the balls to try that out yet... maybe when he's more farmable for us. |
| 20:46.27 | deltron | lol |
| 20:46.36 | nymbia | trh: many priests dont have holy nova. rogues.. warlocks have to stand still.. |
| 20:46.55 | kenlyric | many many priests don't have holy nova. |
| 20:47.01 | sbu | nymbia: full talent tree would also be very nice |
| 20:47.19 | nymbia | sbu: yeah |
| 20:47.20 | sbu | and wowhead seems to have some nice encoding |
| 20:47.22 | trh | nymbia: rogues use vanish, i can't come close to warlocks (instant ae fear, skillcoil, fear) - on priests it might work sometimes |
| 20:47.49 | nymbia | trh: are you talking about arenas or 1v1s? |
| 20:47.55 | trh | nymbia: 1vs1 |
| 20:48.01 | trh | nymbia: in arenas they attack the sheep |
| 20:48.11 | nymbia | trh: wouldnt you always ALWAYS be using freezing in 1v1...? |
| 20:48.24 | trh | nymbia: yes, that's pretty much why snake trap is USELESS :) |
| 20:48.25 | Pneu | lol @ warlock tanking pandemonius heroic |
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| 20:48.33 | sbu | nymbia: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxg0zhLzbZfxt0bbqihM |
| 20:48.34 | nymbia | its plenty useful |
| 20:48.39 | nymbia | it works great in arenas |
| 20:48.56 | nymbia | if you insist that it's useless, it's your loss. |
| 20:49.17 | nymbia | sbu: yeah, that'd definitely be the way to go |
| 20:49.18 | deltron | snake trap is getting nerfed :( |
| 20:49.28 | nymbia | anyway, afk a few |
| 20:49.42 | hyperChipmunk | my tallstrider tanks pando =) |
| 20:50.05 | trh | hyperChipmunk: i started leveling a tallstrider.. level 40... from 9 (that pink one from the cow level ;) |
| 20:50.26 | kenlyric | does a tall strider have dash? |
| 20:50.32 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
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| 20:50.49 | trh | and the most annoying attack sound |
| 20:50.50 | kenlyric | man, I wish gore and charge scaled properly. |
| 20:50.51 | hyperChipmunk | and the best battlecry evar |
| 20:50.56 | deltron | trh: that one is awesome |
| 20:51.08 | hyperChipmunk | rrrrrooarrrrrrrrk |
| 20:51.29 | deltron | mazzranache |
| 20:51.38 | trh | ya.. think thats the name ;) |
| 20:51.38 | deltron | I had that on my hunter |
| 20:51.45 | kenlyric | I have a cat now, but it could easily be anything else that can lear claw and bite. |
| 20:51.49 | trh | i named him "pinky" |
| 20:51.54 | pastamancer | trh: best hunter pet ever |
| 20:51.59 | hyperChipmunk | mine's pristine white |
| 20:52.05 | deltron | all of my pets are named 'cub', since my hunter is named lonewolf :) |
| 20:52.17 | Pneu | my wind serpent is called Pancakes |
| 20:52.25 | hyperChipmunk | and he's legendary on my server |
| 20:52.33 | kenlyric | All of my pets are named Truclinec (my old priest name) except my cats, which are called Tevildo, cause I'm that big of a Tolkien nerd. |
| 20:52.45 | trh | my boar was called "porkino" and our maintanks name was "portino" - very good name ^^ |
| 20:52.55 | ravagernl | Boar :o |
| 20:52.58 | Pneu | my boar is called Pumba :) |
| 20:53.13 | deltron | lol one of the hunters named their pet after me, it really screwed any damage meter up |
| 20:53.17 | trh | hehe |
| 20:53.18 | Chompers | 'humpers' |
| 20:53.18 | hyperChipmunk | I'm a Grand Marshal from back when it meant something, and still, more people knew who my pet was than knew who I was >8P |
| 20:53.18 | Pneu | who has been known to tank in kara on the odd occasion |
| 20:53.24 | ravagernl | I have a lvl 43 elite cat now named wasmachine |
| 20:53.26 | kenlyric | I once saw two guys kissing on a park bench. That was the gayest thing I'd ever seen until Pneu's comment. |
| 20:53.26 | Chompers | he ran away :< |
| 20:54.05 | hyperChipmunk | deltron: i've had that happen; it looked like i was attacking myself in BGs =P |
| 20:54.06 | trh | i want a hellboar :( |
| 20:54.09 | trh | with a new charge |
| 20:54.32 | kenlyric | when do i get another charge? level 40? |
| 20:54.41 | hyperChipmunk | oh quit whining |
| 20:54.55 | trh | kenlyric: http://www.goodintentionsguild.info/hunters.html |
| 20:55.04 | sbu | nymbia: then someone needs to code some "character viewer" (similar to inspect window, but with talents, professions + reputation :o) |
| 20:55.06 | hyperChipmunk | i'm still waiting for a pet racial, full stop |
| 20:55.09 | kenlyric | if I wanted to go there, i'd have gone there myself. |
| 20:55.13 | kenlyric | I'm lazy! |
| 20:55.33 | kenlyric | anyway aren't you high enough to get a warp stalker? |
| 20:55.49 | deltron | ravager > * |
| 20:55.57 | kenlyric | I'd think they'd get to mobs faster than a boar. |
| 20:56.00 | trh | warp stalkers suck until they fix the porting behind the mob and running until the mob stops thing |
| 20:56.01 | kenlyric | ravager < * |
| 20:56.17 | deltron | i'm too busy to level my hunter though, so he's stuck at level 38 |
| 20:56.31 | trh | i love owls for solo pve |
| 20:56.37 | trh | they tank very good with the AE debuff |
| 20:56.44 | kenlyric | I had a ravager for about two levels. Then I'd wait a week and h alf for him to get to mob. |
| 20:56.46 | sbu | nymbia: meh - wowhead obfuscated javascript :/ |
| 20:56.52 | kenlyric | so I was like, screw it, and tamed a boar. |
| 20:57.12 | deltron | have you looked at the new elite cats? |
| 20:57.21 | trh | kenlyric: boars are great until 62, then they start to suck a bit because the charge damage/aggro doesnt scale |
| 20:57.29 | kenlyric | trh, same in the 30s. |
| 20:57.38 | kenlyric | because there's no rank of charge or gore there. |
| 20:57.57 | trh | kenlyric: can only suggest to try out a owl |
| 20:57.58 | kenlyric | new elite cats? |
| 20:58.23 | trh | kenlyric: they eat flesh and tank very good compared to other pets |
| 20:58.45 | Pneu | if it doesnt eat bread im not interested :) |
| 20:58.49 | kenlyric | there's supposedly a rare mob in badlands which is carrion bird but it eats bread. |
| 20:58.59 | kenlyric | or, eats more than other carrion birds, at least. |
| 20:59.05 | Pneu | boars and windserpents 4 life |
| 20:59.33 | trh | i wish they'd implement generic petfood for all pets =) |
| 20:59.35 | kenlyric | I'm happy with my cat, though he's a bit squishier than my boar. I'm interested in plainstrider though. |
| 20:59.36 | trh | +cheap! |
| 20:59.58 | trh | kenlyric: then you gotta hurry.. there are no plainstriders after level 20 or something |
| 21:00.02 | Zicon | Yes, please. WTB food pellets. |
| 21:00.18 | kenlyric | meh, fudgit. |
| 21:00.22 | Pneu | kenlyric: get the pink one from mulgore! |
| 21:00.22 | hyperChipmunk | there's a rare level 20 and some 17s |
| 21:00.59 | hyperChipmunk | did i mention they swim next patch? >8D |
| 21:01.06 | Bibi`ouF | anyone know a mod to get the itemID from a link in the chat ? |
| 21:01.07 | kenlyric | I never understood bears. |
| 21:01.07 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/swim.gif |
| 21:01.12 | kenlyric | it's a boar without charge. |
| 21:01.15 | hyperChipmunk | ~~~~~~~~~ ( ^ > ~~~ |
| 21:01.17 | Bibi`ouF | Mendeleev only does it from the inventory |
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| 21:01.34 | trh | kenlyric: they were "the" tank pet before boars got charge |
| 21:02.03 | Pneu | RatingBuster can show itemID if you ask it nicely |
| 21:02.10 | kenlyric | the stat differences on the pets seem so minor to me. |
| 21:03.04 | hyperChipmunk | that's because they are |
| 21:03.14 | kenlyric | trh: yeah, but that was like... a year and a half ago :) |
| 21:04.06 | Mikma | blizzard should let people get the stacksize of items |
| 21:04.25 | kenlyric | better yet, they should tell you. |
| 21:04.28 | hyperChipmunk | i thought you can do that now |
| 21:04.37 | Mikma | hyperChipmunk: orly? how? |
| 21:05.18 | Pneu | mendeleev shows stack size iirc |
| 21:05.19 | hyperChipmunk | i duno, but i get stacksizes on stuff that i'd be incredibly surprised that they'd been pre-programmed |
| 21:05.26 | nymbia | its a return of GetItemInfo isnt it? |
| 21:05.27 | Mikma | mendeleeb |
| 21:05.34 | Mikma | +typo |
| 21:05.46 | Mikma | they are all determinated in PT |
| 21:05.59 | hyperChipmunk | ah, well there ya go then |
| 21:05.59 | Mikma | and mendeleeb shows it. but blizz should add a way of getting the stacksize with GetItemInfo |
| 21:06.02 | Arrowmaster | its a GetItemInfo return |
| 21:06.08 | nymbia | its a return of GetItemInfo isnt it? |
| 21:06.08 | trh | kenlyric: i wish they'd implement pet auras |
| 21:06.12 | Arrowmaster | yes it is |
| 21:06.15 | Mikma | Arrowmaster: no it's not i'm afraid |
| 21:06.19 | Arrowmaster | yes it is |
| 21:06.19 | trh | kenlyric: like 10mp5 for all party members and such stuff |
| 21:06.36 | hyperChipmunk | i was sure i'd seen it in 2.0 |
| 21:06.41 | Mikma | oh hmm |
| 21:06.44 | Mikma | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo |
| 21:06.48 | Arrowmaster | im 100% sure it is |
| 21:06.49 | Pneu | local Item, Link, Quality, ItemLevel, RequiredLevel, stackType, otherType, Stack, Texture = GetItemInfo(ID); |
| 21:06.52 | Mikma | local sName, sLink, iRarity, iLevel, iMinLevel, sType, sSubType, iStackCount = GetItemInfo(16846); |
| 21:06.55 | Mikma | message(sName..","..iRarity..","..sType..","..iStackCount); |
| 21:07.04 | nymbia | yeah |
| 21:07.15 | Mikma | cool now i can make my own tooltip addon. |
| 21:07.16 | hyperChipmunk | gg mikma |
| 21:07.23 | hyperChipmunk | now i'm gonna be late for school |
| 21:07.29 | Mikma | boohoo |
| 21:07.33 | nymbia | was it worth it? |
| 21:07.51 | hyperChipmunk | to see mikma humiliated by his total ignorance? you bet |
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| 21:09.14 | mikma_ | what did i miss? hyperChipmunk talking shit |
| 21:09.32 | mikma_ | was about to say that i'm always happy to make him late from school lolo |
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| 21:10.15 | nymbia | haha |
| 21:10.42 | trh | what time is it to get to school now? |
| 21:10.51 | trh | i mean.. which timezone |
| 21:10.56 | trh | australia? |
| 21:11.21 | nymbia | bit early for them still i think |
| 21:11.30 | trh | hmm.. might be |
| 21:11.35 | trh | its 11pm here ;) |
| 21:11.45 | Mikma | oh shit! |
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| 21:16.55 | xyu | i'm in taiwan, 5:20am here |
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| 21:17.07 | xyu | i think australia is an hour or 2 ahead |
| 21:17.21 | xyu | speaking of which , i need to get the hell to bed |
| 21:17.22 | Dynom | Wed Apr 18 23:17:22 CEST 2007 |
| 21:17.29 | Nicken | lol |
| 21:17.35 | nymbia | 15:20 here :) |
| 21:17.52 | Nicken | 23:18 here |
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| 21:18.51 | sbu | yep, what Nicken said ;o |
| 21:19.18 | Tornhoof | dito |
| 21:19.30 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 21:20.01 | Nicken | login server borked and all the blizz staff is home laughing and making funny jokes about desperate Shamans |
| 21:20.44 | Dynom | Gemlist.lua:76:AceLocale(GemList):Translation "Show a GemList to your local chat window" does not exist. |
| 21:20.59 | nymbia | Dynom: showed you!! |
| 21:21.09 | Dynom | que ? |
| 21:21.12 | deltron | lol |
| 21:21.15 | deltron | what |
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| 21:21.22 | deltron | Wed Apr 18 16:17:58 CDT 2007 |
| 21:21.36 | nymbia | ...i got nothin |
| 21:22.02 | Dynom | nymbia: :-( |
| 21:22.09 | Dynom | nymbia: how do I fix it ? |
| 21:22.19 | Dynom | put you to work ? |
| 21:22.20 | nymbia | Dynom: probably add that translation |
| 21:22.27 | nymbia | aww do i have to? |
| 21:22.33 | Dynom | no, but would be nice if you did |
| 21:22.42 | nymbia | heh |
| 21:24.00 | Dynom | name = L["Show a GemList to your local chat window"], |
| 21:24.17 | sbu | nymbia: wtb. http://lua-users.org/wiki/ThreadsTutorial :p |
| 21:24.34 | sbu | 3 threads would be nice |
| 21:25.52 | Dynom | nymbia: if I search on other texts, like 'Chat prefix to trigger GemList' I get 2 matches in all files in the ./Addons/GemList/ dir |
| 21:26.03 | Dynom | nymbia: so it's safe to asume that the others don't get defined also |
| 21:27.27 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r33019 10GemList/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:27.28 | CIA-11 | GemList: |
| 21:27.28 | CIA-11 | - Drycoded fix to missing localization. |
| 21:27.39 | nymbia | sbu: hmm. |
| 21:27.47 | sbu | oh and - dont know if we really need profession stuff since it fetches only top x from arena ranking - profession is quite useless there, would need guild-fetching then... |
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| 21:27.58 | nymbia | yeah true |
| 21:28.05 | sbu | and fetching _all_ user data is - well.. - you know :p |
| 21:28.05 | nymbia | and that'd just get way too big |
| 21:28.20 | sbu | yep |
| 21:28.30 | nymbia | Dynom: mind testing that? |
| 21:28.35 | Dynom | nymbia: on it |
| 21:28.37 | sbu | talents on the other handa could be handy |
| 21:28.38 | nymbia | thanks |
| 21:28.47 | nymbia | yeah full talent tree could be useful |
| 21:29.00 | sbu | "ha! you dont have pain supression!" |
| 21:29.19 | nymbia | lol yeah |
| 21:29.34 | sbu | or cold snap.. :/ |
| 21:29.38 | Dynom | nymbia: where do I get that version ? svn ? |
| 21:29.58 | nymbia | Dynom: yeah, it'll be on files.wowace in 10 minutes or so as well |
| 21:30.10 | Dynom | oh ok |
| 21:30.43 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33020 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: BigWigs: LoadOnDemand: Revert todays commits and remove the battleground checks. We need to re-think this whole deal. |
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| 21:31.34 | nymbia | vhaarr: what broke? |
| 21:31.48 | Dynom | nymbia: which files did you change? only gemlist.lua ? |
| 21:32.21 | nymbia | Dynom: and the localization files, only one you'll need is the enUS one, though.. the changes in the others are commented out |
| 21:32.28 | Dynom | k |
| 21:34.20 | Dynom | nymbia: seems to work; thanks |
| 21:34.27 | nymbia | sure |
| 21:36.18 | sbu | same here - nite ;p |
| 21:36.40 | vhaarr | nymbia: It only worked for the first time you zoned into an instance and only if you were running with the modules as LoD. |
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| 21:36.47 | vhaarr | With embedded bossmods, nothing enabled automatically. |
| 21:36.54 | sbu | and nymbia - if threading is easy - would be great, fetching stuff in 1/3 time |
| 21:36.55 | sbu | ;o |
| 21:36.56 | vhaarr | Which, of course, I understand why. |
| 21:37.06 | vhaarr | Just didn't consider it at the time :) |
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| 21:38.32 | vhaarr | The Proximity stuff needs work, too. Bah. |
| 21:40.40 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33021 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Revert last commit. |
| 21:41.15 | Saroz | revert the revert |
| 21:41.23 | vhaarr | I didn't revert a revert. |
| 21:41.33 | Saroz | revert that |
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| 21:44.07 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33022 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Use the new module APIs. |
| 21:44.39 | Hjalte | Bigwigs doesnt block a lot of other bossmods anymore it seems to me. Deadly bossmods is getting through all the time :( |
| 21:44.47 | vhaarr | Hjalte: How? |
| 21:45.01 | vhaarr | Hjalte: Give me a screenshot of their messages getting through and I'll fix the blocker. |
| 21:45.28 | Hjalte | I've got all the bossblock settings on, and still some of my raid leaders, using deadly, gets their messages through. I'll try and screenshot it this gruul attempt. |
| 21:45.38 | vhaarr | please do |
| 21:45.48 | Hjalte | Could it be because i use improved raid warning frame addon? |
| 21:45.53 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 21:46.02 | vhaarr | Indeed it could. |
| 21:46.07 | Arrowmaster | ImprovedRWF needs rewriten |
| 21:46.15 | vhaarr | Hjalte: Screenshot it anyway. |
| 21:46.42 | Arrowmaster | if you have ImprovedRWF set to display the senders name it doesnt work with bossblock |
| 21:46.52 | Hjalte | And thats exactly what i have :) |
| 21:50.46 | Megalon | zomg, Aran firsttry!!11 |
| 21:51.33 | Megalon | at 10% only 1priest, 1pala and 1 hunter alive |
| 21:51.59 | Megalon | it took them forever to kill him :o |
| 21:52.37 | Arrowmaster | he already drink |
| 21:53.02 | Megalon | oh yea |
| 21:53.11 | Megalon | after the drink and elementals already despawned |
| 21:53.37 | Megalon | everyone was like "fufufufu wipe on ts" when only those three were left ;D |
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| 21:57.22 | Saroz | You create: [Flask of Mighty Restoration]x3 \o/ |
| 21:58.35 | nymbia | so you just procced [Patch 2.1]? |
| 21:58.56 | Saroz | noh |
| 21:59.38 | vhaarr | lol |
| 21:59.39 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 21:59.46 | deltron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=89539090&sid=1 <-- blueberry actually knows her stuff |
| 22:00.32 | deltron | oh does mouseover macro's work with grid? |
| 22:01.33 | ravagernl | always |
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| 22:02.07 | deltron | hmm |
| 22:02.14 | deltron | i must check that out |
| 22:02.24 | deltron | too hard to see debuffs with pitbulls raid frames |
| 22:08.36 | NightHawkTheSane | click casting > mouseover macros. |
| 22:09.07 | Saroz | so true |
| 22:10.18 | Hjalte | vhaar, here's two pictures of my gruul kill where Lominen(raid assistant) had his deadly boss mods messages shown: http://www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_041807_234711.jpg (all growths) and http://www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_041807_234802.jpg |
| 22:10.22 | Hjalte | vharr* |
| 22:10.24 | Hjalte | vhaarr* |
| 22:10.50 | vhaarr | yeah alright |
| 22:11.01 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats defently caused by ImprovedRWF |
| 22:11.07 | vhaarr | indeed |
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| 22:11.41 | Arrowmaster | it needs updated, since bossblock got changed and now its logic is all screwed up |
| 22:11.57 | Pneu | Hjalte: with that interface you can see why you rolled a short race ;) |
| 22:12.08 | Hjalte | Pneu, haha ;) |
| 22:12.38 | Hjalte | I like a lot of information on my screen |
| 22:12.47 | Pneu | my main is a nelf so i have only half as many dewdrop bars :D |
| 22:13.23 | Saroz | Hjalte, whats that respawn timer |
| 22:13.27 | TecnoBrat | I kinda feel dirty |
| 22:13.27 | TecnoBrat | http://dynamic.media.adrevolver.com/adrevolver/banner/57719.gif |
| 22:13.32 | TecnoBrat | I just put that ad live |
| 22:13.34 | Hjalte | Saroz, Incubator |
| 22:13.39 | Saroz | uhhh |
| 22:13.40 | Saroz | gief! |
| 22:14.15 | Saroz | you have a druid MT gruul? |
| 22:14.17 | Pneu | yeh, Incubator = a++++ |
| 22:14.30 | Hjalte | Saroz, yeah, we tried with our best warrior and he didnt cut it. |
| 22:14.32 | Arrowmaster | heh we have a druid tank gruul too |
| 22:14.37 | Saroz | sux warrior |
| 22:14.42 | Pneu | we have a druid MT gruul also, warrior OT |
| 22:14.51 | Saroz | we have warr MT, druid OT |
| 22:14.59 | Saroz | parry, kk |
| 22:15.41 | Arrowmaster | we were going to have a warr MT, druid OT, but the druid kinda pulled aggro half way through the fight and became the MT |
| 22:15.41 | TecnoBrat | Dude, you are 40% mana and Gruul is at 75% ... ut oh |
| 22:15.41 | Saroz | more dps! |
| 22:15.43 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r33023 10ImprovedRWF/Core.lua: ImprovedRWF: fix bossblock. easy style :p |
| 22:15.52 | [Ammo] | it was a typo |
| 22:16.07 | [Ammo] | BigWigsBossBlock -> BWBossBlock |
| 22:16.17 | TecnoBrat | I run at 95% mana until ~50% |
| 22:16.20 | TecnoBrat | :P |
| 22:16.21 | vhaarr | probably my fault |
| 22:16.26 | Saroz | damn Hjalte, you got a lot of mods man |
| 22:16.29 | Arrowmaster | it was? i thought i fixed that typo of vhaarr's |
| 22:16.37 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 22:16.38 | [Ammo] | I just checked it out |
| 22:16.41 | Arrowmaster | when he was fixing when i fucked it up |
| 22:16.41 | vhaarr | hey I drycoded the fix |
| 22:16.42 | [Ammo] | and checked the source |
| 22:16.45 | [Ammo] | found the typo |
| 22:16.48 | [Ammo] | and drycode fixed it :p |
| 22:16.58 | Hjalte | Saroz, yeah, i know. But i'm trying to not have anything i wouldnt use. I really only have addons i like. |
| 22:17.03 | [Ammo] | anyway, enjoy hjalte :) |
| 22:17.05 | [Ammo] | later guys |
| 22:17.08 | [Ammo] | time for bed |
| 22:17.10 | Hjalte | Thanks [Ammo] |
| 22:17.23 | Saroz | Incubator, why havnt I heard about this before |
| 22:17.24 | Saroz | wtf |
| 22:17.35 | Arrowmaster | your slow? |
| 22:17.38 | TecnoBrat | Saroz, its the bomb |
| 22:17.38 | Saroz | :8 |
| 22:17.48 | TecnoBrat | I found out about it last week |
| 22:18.11 | TecnoBrat | And its small enough (or can be made small) that it doesnt piss me off |
| 22:18.34 | Saroz | ok Hjalte, more mods now |
| 22:22.13 | Hjalte | I need some help; I need more people in my guild to use Bigwigs and so i need to learn a few bad things about Deadly bossmods. Anyone wants to share its dirty secrets? Or areas where bigwigs is superior? |
| 22:22.35 | trh | on nightbane bigwigs reported more last time i checked |
| 22:22.45 | Saroz | bigwigs pwns, eod |
| 22:22.53 | Saroz | Funkeh` runs the shit |
| 22:23.03 | trh | although bigwigs doesnt report the proximity stuff from dbm |
| 22:23.13 | trh | (yet) |
| 22:23.18 | Saroz | what ya mean? |
| 22:23.36 | trh | Saroz: on maiden of virtue dbm tells you who is too close to you |
| 22:23.36 | ravagernl | There isn't really anything wrong in DBM, it's nicely written, but BigWigs still is superiour |
| 22:23.48 | Saroz | trh, thats like 3 lines in bigwigs |
| 22:23.51 | Saroz | poke ammo about it |
| 22:24.01 | NightHawkTheSane | why does it matter what boss mods other people use? |
| 22:24.05 | Saroz | it's simple, be GM and tell your minions to use Bigwigs |
| 22:24.06 | Saroz | eod |
| 22:24.13 | Saroz | for syncs, I guess |
| 22:24.13 | Punkie` | k |
| 22:24.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Bigwigs has a Proximity warning module now. |
| 22:24.27 | Punkie` | bigwigs is a bossmod which only gives you warnings |
| 22:24.28 | Hjalte | NightHawkTheSane, because with only 3 people using Bigwigs my timers are not very accurate when i am on 40 yards trying to avoid fear w/e |
| 22:24.29 | ZealotOnAStick | Has had for .. . a few days anyway. |
| 22:24.31 | Punkie` | and times ofc |
| 22:24.35 | Saroz | ye, just need to add it to all bosses where it's usefull.. as I said, poke Ammo |
| 22:24.44 | Punkie` | DBM tells you how to kill a boss |
| 22:24.56 | Saroz | l2p? |
| 22:25.01 | Punkie` | yep |
| 22:25.06 | ravagernl | lmao I would say the sa,e |
| 22:25.07 | Saroz | thats one of the things I enjoy about bigwigs, somehow |
| 22:25.10 | ravagernl | same* |
| 22:25.21 | trh | Saroz: ya.. shouldnt be a big deal, would be nice though if added |
| 22:25.25 | Saroz | anyway, nn, and poke ammo about Maiden |
| 22:25.30 | ravagernl | s/sa,e/same |
| 22:25.33 | Arrowmaster | DBM is far from 'nicely written' |
| 22:25.38 | Funkeh` | we recently added proximity to bigwigs a few days ago, although its still a little buggy |
| 22:25.43 | Saroz | look, use bigwigs, enough about that |
| 22:25.48 | Funkeh` | im not sure what you mean by 'tells you who is close' |
| 22:25.53 | Saroz | Funkeh`, add prox to maiden |
| 22:26.54 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r33024 10FuBar_CombatTimeFu/FuBar_CombatTimeFu.toc: FuBar_CombatTimeFu: Nolonger LOD |
| 22:27.09 | Saroz | vhaarr, hurry 33033 |
| 22:27.21 | vhaarr | !" |
| 22:27.53 | vhaarr | I'll have to have a commit ready |
| 22:28.00 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33025 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Maiden.lua: |
| 22:28.00 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Maiden: |
| 22:28.00 | CIA-11 | - use the proximity module |
| 22:28.29 | vhaarr | The Proximity module will be slightly rewritten tonight. |
| 22:28.40 | Funkeh` | Saroz ^-- |
| 22:28.42 | Punkie` | omg group support for bigwigs |
| 22:28.50 | TecnoBrat | Hjalte, DBM can make your character do a ton of shit from the raid leader last I checked, like quit wow, logoff, send emotes, etc ... |
| 22:28.59 | Saroz | Funkeh` :p |
| 22:29.03 | Funkeh` | Punkie`, gonna make that your anthem? how many times you said that? :P |
| 22:29.10 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: You'll have to self:TriggerEvent("BigWigs_ShowProximity", self) when you want it to show and self:TriggerEvent("BigWigs_HideProximity", self) when you want it to hide (except when the boss dies). |
| 22:29.30 | Punkie` | Funkeh`: haha |
| 22:29.38 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: I'm going to rewrite it shortly. |
| 22:29.46 | Funkeh` | alright vhaarr |
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| 22:30.42 | vhaarr | just to make that clear, you don't have to actually hide the window unless there's a phase during the boss where having it visible makes no sense |
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| 22:31.02 | vhaarr | like c'thun |
| 22:31.21 | TecnoBrat | I dont like proximity detector stuff |
| 22:31.29 | TecnoBrat | it makes players lazy |
| 22:31.34 | TecnoBrat | and then they die from stupid shit |
| 22:31.39 | TecnoBrat | like the roof falling on them |
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| 22:31.48 | vhaarr | I don't like it either, why do you think we haven't had one in BW for so long? |
| 22:31.54 | vhaarr | Because we were unable to make one? |
| 22:32.00 | JJSheets | lol |
| 22:32.01 | TecnoBrat | vhaarr, lol |
| 22:32.13 | vhaarr | people whine about it x1000 = it gets added |
| 22:32.18 | TecnoBrat | heh |
| 22:32.22 | vhaarr | and the 1000 mark was just reached, so there it is |
| 22:32.27 | vhaarr | :/ |
| 22:32.32 | TecnoBrat | can I whine to get an option to disable it? :) |
| 22:32.33 | kebinusan | The only thing I keep hearing people request from DBM is the automagic whisper response, currently in combat w/ boss blah @ y% z people alive or w/e |
| 22:32.34 | Sole | whatd you add? |
| 22:32.38 | Funkeh` | LOL |
| 22:32.39 | Nicken | Rabbit! |
| 22:32.41 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 22:32.43 | vhaarr | TecnoBrat: No you can't, because there is one already. |
| 22:32.45 | vhaarr | Nicken: oO |
| 22:32.50 | TecnoBrat | vhaarr, hehe cool :) |
| 22:32.54 | Funkeh` | thats only x500 whines to disable it and we remove it completely |
| 22:33.03 | vhaarr | indeed lol |
| 22:33.30 | JJSheets | vhaarr... you actually keep a count of this shit? :p |
| 22:33.31 | TecnoBrat | kebinusan, it does more than that. A raid leader can log you off the game, make you quit the game .. send tells to people .. send emotes ... |
| 22:33.38 | vhaarr | JJSheets: sssh |
| 22:33.44 | JJSheets | heheheh |
| 22:33.46 | Funkeh` | kebinusan, that why blizz have custom /dnd messages |
| 22:33.49 | Nicken | vhaarr: I want the stupid Closet Gnome to stop yelling about a missing mount set :-) |
| 22:33.51 | vhaarr | kebinusan: writing something like that that works outside bigwigs is so simple, my mom could do it |
| 22:33.51 | trh | oh.. vhaarr speaks python ;) |
| 22:34.08 | vhaarr | of course I do |
| 22:34.13 | vhaarr | Nicken: lol |
| 22:34.22 | Funkeh` | i /dnd don't fuckign whisper me im doing SSC |
| 22:34.23 | vhaarr | Nicken: just disable the addon for that character then |
| 22:34.30 | vhaarr | Nicken: it's in the menu -> Mount -> Enabled |
| 22:34.32 | Funkeh` | and i loaded 0 extra code |
| 22:34.33 | trh | hehe.. that 'this is a beta version' at every startup from closetgnome is a bit annoying too ;) |
| 22:34.38 | TecnoBrat | I don't use dnd |
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| 22:34.44 | vhaarr | trh: Have you read it? |
| 22:34.44 | TecnoBrat | I send custom messages |
| 22:34.46 | kebinusan | yeah its just what I hear from guildmates, I just /dnd Dont annoy me while Im raiding |
| 22:34.53 | vhaarr | trh: It actually tells you how to disable the message. |
| 22:35.04 | trh | vhaarr: oh |
| 22:35.07 | kebinusan | why would you need to log people offline in instances? |
| 22:35.10 | TecnoBrat | Usually .. I send things like "STFU, I dont care, I'm raiding, go away" |
| 22:35.14 | kebinusan | just find players that dont afk |
| 22:35.31 | trh | kebinusan: afk'Ers |
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| 22:35.39 | Funkeh` | kebinusan, why is not at question, its how, how does that find its way into a boss mod |
| 22:35.54 | Funkeh` | BOSS-MOD |
| 22:36.03 | Funkeh` | b.o.s.s. - m.o.d |
| 22:36.09 | TecnoBrat | the thing is ... |
| 22:36.17 | TecnoBrat | it was written as a raiding mod for a specific guild |
| 22:36.18 | kebinusan | Funkeh`: yeah I suppose so, I could see it maybe being added to oRA or something but yeah.. just raid with people who dont ninja afk long enough that you'd need to kick them |
| 22:36.21 | trh | kebinusan: shouldn't happen in a good raid, but i think it's nice option as long as its possible to disable it and before it does the logout gives a warning frame about it |
| 22:36.25 | TecnoBrat | they required all of their members to have it |
| 22:36.33 | TecnoBrat | they obviously had an issue with people afking |
| 22:36.38 | TecnoBrat | so they put that feature in |
| 22:36.45 | trh | TecnoBrat: actually deadlyminds is a pretty good guild |
| 22:36.54 | trh | TecnoBrat: i dont think they have the afk problem |
| 22:37.09 | kebinusan | probably for those people who make melee logoff during phase 1 c'thun |
| 22:37.12 | kebinusan | heh |
| 22:37.41 | TecnoBrat | wtf |
| 22:37.46 | TecnoBrat | melee log off in phase 1? |
| 22:37.50 | TecnoBrat | thats so noob |
| 22:38.05 | kebinusan | if your raid was melee heavy yeah |
| 22:38.27 | kebinusan | it was lame, but my last guild certainly did that |
| 22:38.35 | knarf- | Is there an arena singlebutton buffmod? |
| 22:38.37 | TecnoBrat | wouldnt it just make sense to have the melee stand at range? |
| 22:38.47 | TecnoBrat | at least could shoot their gun that way |
| 22:38.52 | Funkeh` | 'How do I disable the version check every time I join a new raid without disabling syncrhonization? I hate how I get whispers from multiple people every single time I join a new PVP BG. Thanks.' |
| 22:38.57 | Funkeh` | i love curse comments |
| 22:39.00 | TecnoBrat | and not suck and kill tenticles |
| 22:39.06 | Funkeh` | vhaarr ^-- |
| 22:39.12 | trh | Funkeh`: hehe |
| 22:39.15 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: what? |
| 22:39.16 | TecnoBrat | Funkeh`, what mod is that? |
| 22:39.20 | Funkeh` | dbm |
| 22:39.25 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: What version check? |
| 22:39.45 | Funkeh` | you join a bg and you get whispers from others if you have an old version |
| 22:39.51 | vhaarr | with bigwigs? |
| 22:39.53 | vhaarr | ... wtf |
| 22:39.54 | TecnoBrat | DBM |
| 22:39.55 | Funkeh` | nono |
| 22:39.58 | TecnoBrat | not bigwigs |
| 22:39.58 | vhaarr | ah, eh |
| 22:40.03 | vhaarr | what am I, a psychic |
| 22:40.13 | Funkeh` | how could bw do that? growing AI? :P |
| 22:40.27 | Funkeh` | i ment automatically |
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| 22:40.33 | kebinusan | BigWigs will become Self Aware on 2007-05-01 |
| 22:40.40 | Funkeh` | O.o |
| 22:40.44 | TecnoBrat | Funkeh`, using the version check function in AceComm? |
| 22:40.59 | vhaarr | BW doesn't use AceComm. |
| 22:41.11 | Funkeh` | theres no code in bw to automatically whisper people, theres no code to auto version check |
| 22:41.14 | Funkeh` | its all done manually |
| 22:41.17 | TecnoBrat | really? I just assumed :P |
| 22:41.24 | trh | kebinusan: will it be a module called "Cogito, ergo sum"? ;) |
| 22:41.44 | vhaarr | TecnoBrat: Our communication needs are not complex enough for AceComm. |
| 22:42.10 | TecnoBrat | ahhh |
| 22:42.43 | trh | i think there are many mods using acecomm already so it shouldn't be overhead to use acecomm with bigwigs |
| 22:43.04 | vhaarr | you are mistaken |
| 22:43.21 | vhaarr | AceComm introduces a significant processing overhead. |
| 22:43.39 | Amadeo | I'm having a hell of a time leveling my Shaman |
| 22:43.44 | Arrowmaster | wow, DBM bastardizes the usage of the CHAT_MSG_ADDON prefix |
| 22:43.49 | Amadeo | every fight takes me to half health and less than half mana |
| 22:43.51 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: How so? |
| 22:43.59 | vhaarr | Amadeo: :o |
| 22:44.01 | vhaarr | Amadeo: level? |
| 22:44.05 | Arrowmaster | a different prefix for different messages |
| 22:44.09 | trh | vhaarr: oh... right.. but wouldn't it be nicer to just add SendRawMessage to acecomm? |
| 22:44.10 | Amadeo | vhaarr: 42 |
| 22:44.11 | kebinusan | so... dbm remote emotes for that perfect /flex screenshot eh |
| 22:44.22 | vhaarr | Amadeo: I'm 34, don't have any problems. |
| 22:44.24 | Amadeo | I don't even like casting anything, because I run out of mana too fast |
| 22:44.33 | vhaarr | trh: Then there would be no point in using it :P |
| 22:44.41 | Arrowmaster | actually it looks like DBMs emote stuff is commented out |
| 22:44.53 | Amadeo | vhaarr: Yeah, it's strange...I think I have pretty decent gear too |
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| 22:45.17 | trh | vhaarr: if it could be used for the custom channels and stuff it' |
| 22:45.21 | trh | d be actually useful i think |
| 22:46.09 | vhaarr | I think you need to do some more research before speaking on the subject. |
| 22:46.15 | Amadeo | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alterac+Mountains&n=Jopari |
| 22:46.40 | trh | btw: is there a documentation generator for .lua like javadoc for java? |
| 22:46.47 | Amadeo | not the best ever, but it's not bad |
| 22:48.13 | Amadeo | had a really strange thing happen today |
| 22:48.29 | Amadeo | I hit a Rogue right before they sapped me, but they sapped me and stayed stealthed anyway |
| 22:48.45 | Antiarc|Work | If they dodged/parried, then no mystery |
| 22:48.53 | Antiarc|Work | Dodges/parries/misses don't take us out of stealth anymore. |
| 22:48.54 | Amadeo | it hit them |
| 22:48.55 | Sole | it should still bring him out of stealth |
| 22:48.56 | Antiarc|Work | Huh |
| 22:49.01 | Sole | no fucking way |
| 22:49.08 | Sole | they finally fixed that? |
| 22:49.09 | Antiarc|Work | Resists don't take us out of stealth anymore either. |
| 22:49.09 | Amadeo | I forget how much damage, but it did damage :) |
| 22:49.10 | Antiarc|Work | Yes. |
| 22:49.13 | vhaarr | Amadeo: It's not strange, mobs do that all the time. |
| 22:49.24 | Sole | didnt see that on the patch notes |
| 22:49.28 | Antiarc|Work | Amadeo: May be a lag thing. It's not uncommon for two good rogues to cheapshot each other at the same time. |
| 22:49.31 | Antiarc|Work | Sole: I think it was 2.0 |
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| 22:49.47 | Sole | now all they have to do is make vanish work |
| 22:49.50 | Amadeo | oh I know, but even so...if I hit prior, I'd be in combat and it would knock them out of stealth...if I hit after, it should knock them out either way |
| 22:50.02 | Sole | lost a few arena matches last night because I went to vanish and I just came straight out |
| 22:50.02 | Amadeo | the hit registered |
| 22:50.51 | Sole | and no I didnt have a dot on me if youre wondering :P |
| 22:51.36 | trh | Sole: so vanish is broken? |
| 22:51.39 | Sole | Got a question bout the realmList cvar. 'us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724' < Does the number at the end represent the battlegroup? |
| 22:51.42 | Punkie` | WHATWAHT? |
| 22:51.45 | Punkie` | vanish is broken? |
| 22:51.46 | Sole | trh: it doesnt work when you want it to |
| 22:51.47 | Antiarc|Work | Vanish has been broken for ages. |
| 22:51.50 | Punkie` | ARE |
| 22:51.51 | Punkie` | YOU |
| 22:51.52 | Sole | welcome to 2 years ago |
| 22:51.52 | Punkie` | SERIOUS? |
| 22:52.01 | trh | Sole: ah.. so it's like feign death ;) |
| 22:52.17 | Sole | not really, its a hell of a lot more important than playing dead :P |
| 22:52.22 | Punkie` | we could all welcome everyone to a few hours ago! |
| 22:52.34 | Punkie` | "omg group support for BigWigs?!?!!?" |
| 22:52.44 | trh | Sole: ya.. at least since they allowed traps to be layed in combat |
| 22:52.53 | Antiarc|Work | wtb vanish on a 30-sec timer |
| 22:52.55 | Sole | you can set traps in combat, we often need a second/third opener |
| 22:53.14 | Sole | Im fine with 2 vanishes per arena match, just want em to be guaranteed |
| 22:53.29 | Funkeh` | punkie` ffs lol |
| 22:53.41 | kebinusan | sole, should be the port, youd have to map realmName to battlegroup I think |
| 22:53.49 | trh | but you get 100% stealth after sap, so be happy ^^ |
| 22:53.55 | Punkie` | heheh heh |
| 22:54.00 | Sole | kebinusan: ok thanks :( |
| 22:54.06 | Punkie` | does Funkeh` have a ping for BigWigs? :D |
| 22:55.33 | trh | Sole: i think the number at the end is the port of the login server? |
| 22:55.49 | Sole | trh: yeah it is, makes sense now that Ive thought about it |
| 22:56.00 | Sole | I just woke up, so Im more stupid than usual ^^ |
| 22:59.37 | trh | vhaarr: just thought up something where SendRawCommMessage with the receiving stuff would be useful - if you want your mod to be compatible with a mod that does communcation without acecomm - that way the access to the channels would be nice and clean and wouldnt have to be hacked manually in |
| 22:59.57 | CIA-11 | 03sole * r33026 10Gladiator/ (DataFilesLOD.bat Gladiator.lua Gladiator.toc libs/): Gladiator: Removed Tourist and BabbleZone. Updated batch file to move the new battlegroups added to Tattle. |
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| 23:01.21 | vhaarr | trh: .. what? We're using the addon channel right now. |
| 23:01.32 | trh | vhaarr: if the addon uses a custom channel |
| 23:01.46 | trh | vhaarr: the demand for it is probably very very low... :) |
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| 23:02.20 | vhaarr | the demand for what? |
| 23:02.34 | vhaarr | trh: I'm not sure what you mean. |
| 23:02.36 | trh | vhaarr: for a raw-sending/receiving feature via acecomm |
| 23:02.55 | trh | vhaarr: i mean if some mod (not-ace2) uses a worldwide channel for communication |
| 23:02.59 | vhaarr | that strips the whole point of using AceComm |
| 23:03.02 | trh | vhaarr: and you want your mod to hook into that channel |
| 23:03.06 | vhaarr | just use SendAddonMessage, then? |
| 23:03.28 | Sole | "us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724" Does anybody know the EU login address looks like? Does it just have eu in the front of the name? |
| 23:03.29 | trh | vhaarr: but wouldnt that encode the message in the acecomm way, that'd be incompatible to the non-ace2 mod? |
| 23:03.36 | vhaarr | Sole: eu. |
| 23:03.44 | JJSheets | SendAddonMessage is a Blizzard function trh |
| 23:03.47 | Sole | vhaarr: thats what I thought, thanks |
| 23:04.06 | trh | vhaarr: does sendaddonmessage work on joined channels? |
| 23:04.13 | vhaarr | trh: What channels? |
| 23:04.16 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33027 10Automaton/modules/Plates.lua: Automaton: Fixed Plates to set the global variable NAMEPLATE_ON appropriately. This variable affects the in built in V/Shift-V/Control-V commands, as well as anything that follows that convention (Aloft) |
| 23:04.20 | trh | vhaarr: /join MyPrivateChannel |
| 23:04.28 | vhaarr | why would it do that? |
| 23:04.31 | trh | vhaarr: can i send to MyPrivateChannel via SendAddOnMessage? |
| 23:04.37 | vhaarr | of course not |
| 23:04.45 | trh | ya.. imagine |
| 23:04.50 | trh | if a mod uses a global channel |
| 23:04.54 | trh | (a non-ace2 mod) |
| 23:04.55 | Gnarfoz_ | Roartindon: highlighting doesn't work anymore! :< |
| 23:05.02 | trh | with its own protocol |
| 23:05.06 | Roartindon | Gnarfoz_: highlighting? |
| 23:05.10 | trh | and i write a ace2 addon that should understand that protocol |
| 23:05.16 | Gnarfoz_ | hovering over a nameplate |
| 23:05.27 | trh | then i'd have the need to join that channel and receive the messages raw and (maybe) send them raw |
| 23:05.28 | vhaarr | trh: Then you need to use the blizzard API. |
| 23:05.28 | Gnarfoz_ | the thing with 'blend' and 'add' as possible color mixing methods |
| 23:05.30 | Roartindon | hmm.. I'll have to have a look |
| 23:05.38 | Gnarfoz_ | Roartindon: yay :> |
| 23:05.41 | Megalon | Sole: SET realmList "eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com" |
| 23:05.45 | Gnarfoz_ | actually |
| 23:05.50 | Gnarfoz_ | more details: |
| 23:05.54 | trh | vhaarr: yes, but it'd be nice to have it possible via acecomm, the code would be nicer |
| 23:06.21 | vhaarr | trh: I wouldn't worry about it. |
| 23:06.29 | Gnarfoz_ | works out-of-the box (deleted SVs), but stopped working some time while I was still standing in town, configuring plates. I think it was some time after changing the frames bg color? frame size? not quite sure |
| 23:06.56 | Roartindon | Gnarfoz_: Probably after enabling some frame options |
| 23:07.03 | Roartindon | I think I know; I'll have a look |
| 23:07.05 | trh | vhaarr: i don't think there are many mods whom do that.. so it's not really needed |
| 23:07.23 | trh | vhaarr: it was just a example of how that raw stuff could be useful in some way |
| 23:08.49 | Gnarfoz_ | but after 2h+2h+3h sleep this week so far, I'm not going to log back in and find out what exactly causes it, but seeing the sheer level of awesomeness of this addon, I am confident you'll magically find it :> |
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| 23:11.07 | kebinusan | anyone running the latest rating buster? I updated and now Im not getting the comparison only the summary |
| 23:13.04 | Sole | *sigh* now to create a table with all the servers and which battlegroup one belongs to |
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| 23:14.24 | Arrowmaster | Sole: tourist has that |
| 23:14.41 | Sole | Arrowmaster: wheh thanks |
| 23:15.28 | Sole | Arrowmaster: I dont see it on the API documentation |
| 23:18.53 | Sole | Arrowmaster: hallo? |
| 23:19.17 | Arrowmaster | i know its in there |
| 23:19.33 | Arrowmaster | not sure about the API for it though |
| 23:20.02 | vhaarr | Sole: err |
| 23:20.19 | vhaarr | Sole: I told you Tourist had that 2 days ago. |
| 23:20.20 | vhaarr | you said "ok cool" |
| 23:20.24 | Funkeh` | ckknight: im not sure what with pitbull but partys auras has been completely broken for nearly a week now |
| 23:20.45 | Sole | you told me tourist could check if the current zone is an arena |
| 23:20.51 | Hjalte | Funkeh`, they are working fine here :) |
| 23:20.56 | vhaarr | Sole: I told you both. |
| 23:21.06 | vhaarr | Sole: Check the channel logs if you want, but you even replied. |
| 23:21.13 | Punkie` | Funkeh`: guess what :o |
| 23:21.21 | Sole | vhaarr: I believe you |
| 23:21.21 | Funkeh` | bw got 5 man support? |
| 23:21.29 | Punkie` | IT DID? |
| 23:21.33 | Punkie` | omg *scrolls up* |
| 23:21.50 | Tornhoof | sure if you do onyxia with 5pps :D |
| 23:21.52 | Punkie` | nah, im going to bed, have a good night people :) |
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| 23:30.01 | Sole | so recently some jackass tried to convince me that DBM had a lower memory footprint than bigwiggs |
| 23:30.12 | Sole | "wtf makes you speak this nonense1?" |
| 23:30.24 | Sole | "I have this cool little addon that tells me how much memory each addon takes when it loads up" |
| 23:30.27 | Sole | o_O |
| 23:30.40 | knarf- | rofl |
| 23:30.47 | knarf- | Warmup can't be trusted |
| 23:30.48 | knarf- | :P |
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| 23:31.57 | Sole | my personal opinion is, an addon with such an ugly configuration screen shouldnt exist |
| 23:35.00 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33028 10Aloft/CoreModules/Frame.lua: |
| 23:35.00 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 23:35.00 | CIA-11 | - UIFrame is now created at level 2 instead of level 3 |
| 23:35.00 | CIA-11 | - healthBar/castBar are now at level 1 instead of level 2 |
| 23:35.00 | CIA-11 | - UIFrame handles border display, backdropFrame handles backdrop |
| 23:35.01 | CIA-11 | - UIFrame will not adopt the highlight frame that was causing it not to display properly |
| 23:35.01 | Roartindon | Gnarfoz_: Give that a try. |
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| 23:36.50 | Eternally777 | ~seen Tuller |
| 23:37.00 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-68-57-185-39.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 2h 38m 10s ago, saying: 'nevcairiel: my omnicc works :P'. |
| 23:38.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Hmm. So, silly question.. which 2 trinkets would be the best.. Core of Ar'Kelos, Bladefist's Breadth, or Hourglass of the Unraveller? |
| 23:38.37 | NightHawkTheSane | (for an enh shaman) |
| 23:40.04 | Gnarfoz_ | Roartindon: my amazement of how quick you fixed that is inversely proportional to my realization of the fact that I'm still here although I wanted to go sleep an hour ago ;D I'll try it out at lunch at work tomorrow (or "later", timezones suck ;)) |
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| 23:45.11 | NeoTron | I hate people who go into a boss encounter expecting a wipe and thus not potting up ebcause they don't want to wipe |
| 23:45.26 | NeoTron | and in one case, a person said "we need more dps" (which was true) and then refused to use elixirs etc |
| 23:45.31 | NeoTron | makes no sense to me |
| 23:46.05 | Bibi`ouF | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/bigpost/jewelcraft2.jpg |
| 23:46.08 | Bibi`ouF | new mount ... again. |
| 23:46.10 | kebinusan | you could have just stopped at I hate people :-) |
| 23:46.19 | NightHawkTheSane | well, thats hypocritical. But it's perfectly justifiable to not pot up on your first one or two attempts at a boss. |
| 23:48.49 | Kemayo | WoW doesn't do anything to take advantage of a dual-core processor, right? |
| 23:50.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Well.. I dont think there's anything specifically inside the code designed to detect and take advantage of it, no. But your OS ought to be not stupid enough to optimize somewhat. |
| 23:50.40 | Kemayo | Sounds fair. |
| 23:51.00 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, nice. |
| 23:51.59 | NightHawkTheSane | As an aside, going with the not-stupid-os idea, even if WoW is relegated to a single core, any modern os should at least be able to offload other apps/processes to the other core, so it's not like it'd be a waste or anything |
| 23:58.00 | CIA-11 | 03sbu * r33029 10Tattle/Gladiator_EUConviction/ (. EUConviction.lua Gladiator_EUConviction.toc): Tattle: EU Conviction |
| 23:58.55 | deltron | http://kotaku.com/gaming/rush-limbaugh/limbaugh-games-arent-to-blame-253132.php <-- whaaaaaaaa |
