| 00:00.10 | Amadeo | Linux isn't as necessary, but it would make headlines which would further generate interest in the game |
| 00:00.10 | NightHawkTheSane | I mean, I'd love to play games like Lotro, or warhammer, but *shrug* I'll probably keep playing wow, as its all thats available |
| 00:00.12 | Thrae | Warhammer's engine will be newer, meaning less slip-ups as they can code better performance and relability from scratch. |
| 00:00.23 | TheKarn | Q: Will there be a Mac/other platform version? |
| 00:00.23 | TheKarn | A: I never say never - but we will only launch WAR on the PC. |
| 00:00.47 | NightHawkTheSane | TheKarn: That's marketing speak for "Buy a pc or go fuck yourselves" i've seen it too often :P |
| 00:01.12 | kergoth | its not that hard to have an abstraction layer to facilitate os/platform portability. they were just lazy when they coded it |
| 00:01.12 | TheKarn | lol |
| 00:01.19 | kergoth | i dont understand it, myself |
| 00:01.28 | TheKarn | i'm hoping for linux port tbh |
| 00:01.29 | Amadeo | kergoth: I don't either! |
| 00:01.31 | hyperChipmunk | translation: we took a page from Obsidian's book and hired a bunch of directx no-talent cookie-cutter coders to write our game |
| 00:01.34 | ckknight | especially for something that doesn't use native widgets, kergoth |
| 00:01.39 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: most likely, yes. |
| 00:01.39 | kergoth | exactly |
| 00:01.57 | TheKarn | why would they limit themselves to DX? OpenGL has more support |
| 00:01.58 | hyperChipmunk | need .net to run nwn2...to run the GAME |
| 00:02.00 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 00:02.17 | Thrae | "I'm a Mac." "And I'm a PC." "PC, I noticed you have all the latest games, but I'm still cooler." |
| 00:02.19 | TheKarn | nwn2 bored me during the setting up of my character |
| 00:02.33 | Amadeo | I think developers like DirectX since it encompasses everything |
| 00:02.35 | Amadeo | I dunno |
| 00:02.35 | TheKarn | so glad i downloaded it to try-before-i-buy |
| 00:02.37 | hyperChipmunk | i never got it to run, between .net and dx9 and secuROM |
| 00:02.51 | TheKarn | secuROM sucks ass |
| 00:03.06 | TheKarn | infact most copyright techs do |
| 00:03.06 | hyperChipmunk | i bought the frickin' game |
| 00:03.12 | NightHawkTheSane | TheKarn: because no-talent hacks who were grown on farms and no nothing but dx and .net are a dime a dozen. |
| 00:03.19 | NightHawkTheSane | s/no/know/ |
| 00:03.21 | hyperChipmunk | let me at least TRY to get it to run on my box |
| 00:03.29 | NightHawkTheSane | bah |
| 00:03.30 | NightHawkTheSane | stupid perl! |
| 00:03.31 | TheKarn | lol |
| 00:03.37 | Amadeo | what the hell, DirectX coders grew up on farms!? |
| 00:03.39 | hyperChipmunk | self-pwnd imo |
| 00:03.41 | NightHawkTheSane | purl, even |
| 00:03.49 | purl | odd |
| 00:03.49 | Amadeo | :P |
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| 00:04.08 | TheKarn | "TheKarn: because no-talent hacks who were grown on farms and no nothing but dx and .net are a dime a dozen." |
| 00:04.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: yeah, fake colleges that hand out associates degrees and pretend you learned something :P |
| 00:04.15 | TheKarn | s/ no / know / |
| 00:04.47 | NightHawkTheSane | TheKarn: yeah, i know i should have done that, I just forgot I used 'no' earlier in the sentence. |
| 00:05.09 | TheKarn | i always try and parse the regex manually before running it |
| 00:05.11 | Amadeo | If you ever notice, there's a ton of people who are pretty stupid that are still making a ton of money :P |
| 00:05.24 | ckknight | like prostitutes |
| 00:05.31 | TheKarn | ckknight ... we like those |
| 00:05.35 | NightHawkTheSane | well I'm watching doctor who, so i'm not paying 100% attention to what I type ;) |
| 00:05.35 | TheKarn | anyway |
| 00:05.37 | TheKarn | bed for me |
| 00:06.05 | Thrae | You can be a financial genius and a pinhead in everything else ;) |
| 00:06.14 | Thrae | It's called "A total lack of ethics and morals"! |
| 00:06.23 | TheKarn | nn all |
| 00:06.27 | ckknight | I suppose, Thrae |
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| 00:06.38 | ckknight | I'm sure we all have our flaws |
| 00:06.49 | ckknight | for example, I see humility as a mask for one's weaknesses |
| 00:06.55 | ckknight | thusly, I'm not a very humble person |
| 00:07.29 | Thrae | ckknight: Or perhaps humility is just accepting the possibility that others may actually be better then you in certain fields. |
| 00:07.41 | ckknight | it depends on the situation |
| 00:08.05 | ckknight | if I believe that someone may be better than me, I might as well admit it and seek guidance, I won't bolster my standing arbitrarily |
| 00:08.11 | ckknight | but I don't see that as being humble |
| 00:08.14 | JoshBorke | Thrae: or in my case, everyone is better than me =/ |
| 00:08.22 | ckknight | being humble is making yourself seem less than you are |
| 00:08.26 | ckknight | which I just don't get |
| 00:08.26 | Cryect | being humble normally just means not being an ass and bragging to eveyrone how great you are |
| 00:09.17 | Thrae | JoshBorke: But how! You are the almighty creator of "WhoMod"! |
| 00:09.25 | JoshBorke | Thrae: i'm just that humble |
| 00:09.33 | Amadeo | humble bee |
| 00:09.41 | Thrae | WhoMod lets WoW work under DOS. It's true! |
| 00:09.44 | ckknight | Cryect: on the subject, have you heard how great I am? |
| 00:09.49 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:10.44 | Cryect | ckknight: nope :-p i would say you are more humble unless... someone starts talking about something you disagree with then you make your opinion known |
| 00:10.47 | Thrae | Hmm, seems like a lot of good people are leaving Mythic because of the complete lack of career advancement since EA bought them. |
| 00:11.08 | ckknight | Thrae: urg |
| 00:11.22 | NightHawkTheSane | ... raise you're hand if you're surprised? |
| 00:11.32 | Amadeo | Well..didn't seem to hurt WoW when all the Blizzard founders left :) |
| 00:11.49 | Amadeo | funny that they left because of Vivendi |
| 00:11.51 | Amadeo | it's always the same |
| 00:11.54 | Amadeo | Publishers are evil |
| 00:12.03 | NightHawkTheSane | of course they are |
| 00:12.06 | Cryect | WoW basically has a rotating door policy nothing really new |
| 00:12.10 | NightHawkTheSane | publishers are just marketing execs. |
| 00:12.11 | ckknight | I wanna start my own MMO that'll be more awesomer than everything! |
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| 00:12.30 | Amadeo | For ckknight's MMO, you gain levels by coding |
| 00:12.39 | Cryect | the developers for WoW weren't like gods or anything so its hard to say there is great reasons to keep them over potentially cheaper people |
| 00:12.42 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:12.56 | NightHawkTheSane | "You've gained a level! You can now learn: Object Oriented Design!" |
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| 00:13.21 | Gnarfoz | <Amadeo> Well..didn't seem to hurt WoW when all the Blizzard founders left :) <-- bs |
| 00:13.26 | Cryect | What would be the talent trees |
| 00:13.37 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: you joke, but would that not be awesome? |
| 00:13.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: It would, indeed. |
| 00:13.49 | Amadeo | Gnarfoz: I'm sure it hurt Blizzard, but not WoW...the game still went on to have 8 million subscribers at its peak |
| 00:13.52 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:13.58 | ckknight | coding games are far too complex, though |
| 00:14.02 | Amadeo | even if it was the worst game in the world, it's still a huge success |
| 00:14.05 | Gnarfoz | Amadeo: I meant "bs" about "all founders leaving" |
| 00:14.09 | Amadeo | oh |
| 00:14.12 | Amadeo | the important ones did :) |
| 00:14.14 | Cryect | Gnarfoz: Whats your sign that WoW has been hurt? If anything WoW the game itself is way better than when it was released |
| 00:14.27 | Cryect | Gnarfoz: You could argue the game is better because those people left if you really wanted |
| 00:14.34 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: same reply as to Amadeo |
| 00:14.48 | Cryect | Gnarfoz: oh haha yeah not all of them left :-p |
| 00:15.36 | Cryect | But its a common argument for WoW haters that the developers for WoW are constantly leaving and how WoW is going to die :-p |
| 00:15.46 | Amadeo | Bill Roper, David Brevik, who else left? it's been a while |
| 00:15.47 | Cryect | not that I really expect too many WoW haters in this channel |
| 00:16.19 | NightHawkTheSane | I could start hating it, if you'd like. |
| 00:16.31 | Cryect | be my guest |
| 00:16.52 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, maybe after this episode. |
| 00:17.00 | Cryect | haha |
| 00:17.10 | ckknight | episode? |
| 00:17.17 | NightHawkTheSane | watching doctor who |
| 00:17.17 | Amadeo | Gnarfoz: and I disagree, I'd much rather have someone other than Kalgan as lead developer :P |
| 00:17.18 | ckknight | Dr. Who? |
| 00:17.19 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:17.24 | ckknight | hehe, good times |
| 00:18.16 | ckknight | vhaarr: alright, looks like I'm done hacking AceEvent |
| 00:18.52 | ckknight | took a while |
| 00:18.58 | ckknight | wait, no |
| 00:19.02 | ckknight | gotta do the combat leaving dealies |
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| 00:36.35 | vhaarr | how the HELL do I get perl -i -p -e ... to not create a fucking backup file? |
| 00:37.04 | vhaarr | it says "makes backup if extension is supplied" (i.e. use "-i.bak", for example) |
| 00:37.16 | vhaarr | but it creates a backup with only "-i" |
| 00:37.20 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.25 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 00:37.37 | vhaarr | and my command is "perl -i -p -e 'rx' <file>" |
| 00:37.43 | vhaarr | that should not create a backup, then |
| 00:37.51 | hyperChipmunk | -i'' ? |
| 00:37.52 | hyperChipmunk | =x |
| 00:38.09 | vhaarr | .bak |
| 00:38.11 | vhaarr | ... |
| 00:38.18 | hyperChipmunk | owned imo |
| 00:39.16 | Cryect | uh don't use -i and instead use > filename ? |
| 00:39.16 | hyperChipmunk | you can't |
| 00:39.42 | Cryect | er wait yeah you have to goto another file then mv |
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| 00:39.48 | hyperChipmunk | you'll just end up with a blank file =p |
| 00:40.04 | Cryect | man been so long since I've actually used perl |
| 00:40.21 | Cryect | I thought it would spit it out to the standard output if you didn't tell it to write it? |
| 00:42.57 | Saint-N | http://www.freejose.com/blog/2007/03/20/rachel-specter-pictures/ |
| 00:43.01 | Saint-N | ^^ yummy |
| 00:46.17 | Thrae | I just realized -- World of Warcraft has no real Crafting of War within its World, just within the instanced battlegrounds. Only token places to defend outside. |
| 00:47.17 | Thrae | It's Battlegrounds of Warcraft & World of Gankcraft. |
| 00:47.27 | NightHawkTheSane | very few mmos have ever had a significantly mutable world. |
| 00:47.32 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33121 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: |
| 00:47.32 | CIA-11 | .AceEvent-2.0 - instead of having one frame for all addons, make one frame per addon and register with those. This will allow for profiling to be much more accurate for addons. |
| 00:47.32 | CIA-11 | Internals drastically changed for this change. |
| 00:47.32 | CIA-11 | Assorted optimizations. |
| 00:47.32 | CIA-11 | Hopefully nothing breaks, I did a bunch of testing, so here's hoping. |
| 00:47.51 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: DAoC did it fine near inception. |
| 00:48.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: yeah, i said very few, not none. :) |
| 00:48.22 | ckknight | Saint-N: cute |
| 00:48.27 | Thrae | I just wonder why WoW isn't stealing more from DAoC |
| 00:49.45 | Thrae | Well anyway, Warhammer will probably force WoW to make some long-standing PvP upgrades. |
| 00:49.45 | NightHawkTheSane | doubtful |
| 00:49.48 | Thrae | If I were Blizzard, I'd keep a lot of them until Warhammer or another possibly popular PvP game is near release, then release the design in a blitz. |
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| 00:50.29 | Thrae | Call it "Chaos of Screwing Up Your Competition Expansion Pack" |
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| 00:52.25 | ckknight | Thrae: that's my thoughts |
| 00:52.27 | Kaelten | ckknight: that last fix for aceevent you commited, it may make it better profiling but it lowers the overall effeciancy |
| 00:52.53 | ckknight | Kaelten: according to my tests, it's actually very close wrt efficiency |
| 00:53.02 | Kaelten | hrm, what about memory usage? |
| 00:53.04 | ckknight | and I did a lot of nice optimizations to make it near-equal |
| 00:53.13 | ckknight | Kaelten: sadly, there is an extra frame per addon |
| 00:53.27 | Kaelten | right, that could add up over 50-100 addons |
| 00:53.50 | Thrae | ckknight: About AceEvent or WoW/Warhammer? |
| 00:55.03 | ckknight | Kaelten: a blank frame is 72 bytes, at 100 addons, that's 7200 bytes. I'm willing to sacrifice 7 KiB. |
| 00:55.15 | ckknight | Thrae: with regards to what? |
| 00:55.45 | Kaelten | hrm, I supose thats not too bad of an overhead |
| 00:55.51 | CIA-11 | 03aiiane * r33122 10Vox/ (. Vox.lua Vox.toc): |
| 00:55.51 | CIA-11 | Vox: initial commit |
| 00:55.51 | CIA-11 | - Simple but smart whisper auto-responder |
| 00:56.26 | Thrae | Frames themselves are cheap, but there's still evidence it's faster to queue 'em up in a single frame then letting the engine handle the pushes. |
| 00:57.02 | Thrae | ckknight: 21:00 <@ckknight:#wowace> Thrae: that's my thoughts |
| 00:57.16 | ckknight | Thrae: that was wrt what Blizz would do when WAR is released |
| 00:57.17 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: hey =) |
| 00:57.21 | Thrae | ckknight: Didn't know what that referenced |
| 00:57.25 | Thrae | ckknight: Ah, thought so |
| 00:57.32 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: ello |
| 00:57.37 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: some people clamorin' for svn accts |
| 00:57.37 | Aiiane | Kaelten: thanks for the response :) I understand you got married recently, congrats ;) |
| 00:57.52 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: I just got finished sending out about 15 of them |
| 00:57.56 | Thrae | Kaelten is gay too?! |
| 00:57.57 | Kaelten | so we're all caught up |
| 00:58.08 | Kaelten | Thrae: hrm? |
| 00:58.14 | Kaelten | not to my knowledge |
| 00:58.19 | Kaelten | but I've been mistaken before, |
| 00:58.23 | Thrae | Oh, you're on the "downlow"? |
| 00:58.25 | Kaelten | although I'm fairly sure about this one. |
| 00:59.04 | Cryect | better let your wife know |
| 00:59.11 | hyperChipmunk | good deal =) |
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| 00:59.22 | Thrae | I saw "In & Out" again a few days ago. Still good stuff. |
| 00:59.41 | chuckg | What's "wrt"? |
| 00:59.54 | hyperChipmunk | with respect to |
| 01:00.05 | hyperChipmunk | ~wtf wrt |
| 01:00.09 | Kaelten | ya got divorced on wendsday packed up in a pod on thursday birthday on sunday married monday and fly to san fran on saturday |
| 01:00.18 | hyperChipmunk | ... |
| 01:00.46 | Thrae | Kaelten: That's an event-filled week! |
| 01:01.13 | Thrae | I name that week "AceWeek". |
| 01:01.22 | Kaelten | heh |
| 01:01.29 | Kaelten | ya its been kinda crazy |
| 01:01.31 | Saint-N | cuz at some point he's gonna crash? |
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| 01:01.35 | Kaelten | I'm in asheville NC |
| 01:01.38 | Kaelten | atm |
| 01:01.45 | Saint-N | never go atm |
| 01:01.47 | Thrae | Hey, I border you. |
| 01:01.48 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 01:01.52 | hyperChipmunk | you should come up to Detroit |
| 01:01.56 | hyperChipmunk | I'll buy you a milkshake |
| 01:01.57 | Thrae | In a non-sexual way. |
| 01:02.41 | Kaelten | lol |
| 01:02.52 | Kaelten | flying out of asheville at 6 am saturday |
| 01:03.30 | hyperChipmunk | to stonetalon? it's easier to take the tunnel; the hyppogryph vendor is a rip-off |
| 01:03.33 | Mikma | now that's what i call a busy week |
| 01:05.18 | CIA-11 | 03aiiane * r33123 10Vox/: |
| 01:05.18 | CIA-11 | Vox: |
| 01:05.18 | CIA-11 | - Added externals |
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| 01:22.27 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33124 10Ace2/ (13 files in 13 dirs): Ace2 - added TOC files to the library folders, so that they can be taken out and used as independent addons, which should make profiling much easier. |
| 01:22.27 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33125 10BigWigs/ (56 files in 6 dirs): BigWigs: Update old boss modules to use the new API methods instead of direct event triggering. |
| 01:22.28 | Funkeh` | vhaarr: i think you deserve a big tub of ice cream for that |
| 01:22.28 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: oooh that sounds nice |
| 01:22.28 | ckknight | now what baffles me is why AceLibrary is taking up so much time |
| 01:22.28 | vhaarr | ckknight: What baffles me is why argCheck seems to be invoked 100 times per second when idling in a city. |
| 01:22.28 | ckknight | vhaarr: yea, that's cause many, many libraries and addons use it |
| 01:22.28 | vhaarr | yes, but .. |
| 01:22.29 | ckknight | and running the check on it doesn't check just that one library/addon using it |
| 01:22.29 | ckknight | but all addons/libraries using it |
| 01:22.29 | vhaarr | hm, actually I have some random acelibrary changes here |
| 01:22.29 | vhaarr | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/14352 |
| 01:22.36 | Funkeh` | ckknight: adding any kind of automatic LoD? WAU/bat/sh ? |
| 01:22.51 | ckknight | Funkeh`: mmm... no |
| 01:22.59 | ckknight | most people should just stick with Ace2 |
| 01:23.08 | vhaarr | ckknight: I think the "important change" is in svnRevisionToNumber |
| 01:23.12 | ckknight | splitting is only for developers (read: myself, vhaarr, others) to use |
| 01:23.13 | Funkeh` | well it would be nice to have one |
| 01:23.18 | vhaarr | and I also removed an unused variable in argCheck |
| 01:23.40 | ckknight | vhaarr: select(3, stack:find("\n(.-)\n")) => stack:match("\n(.-)\n"), you know |
| 01:23.53 | vhaarr | I don't know why, but I like :find better |
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| 01:24.03 | vhaarr | there's absolutely no reason to that I know of, though. |
| 01:24.52 | Aiiane | lol |
| 01:25.28 | Funkeh` | well the cold truth is its pointless adding tocs to each addon without some kind of automated lod process, 'cause it will never be used, and we are all lazy assholes |
| 01:25.40 | vhaarr | I'll use it |
| 01:26.05 | JJSheets | Who you callin lazy, Funkeh`? :p |
| 01:26.18 | Funkeh` | you, slut! |
| 01:26.47 | JJSheets | okay... just checking. :) |
| 01:29.10 | pastamancer | Funkeh`: it's not for you! :p |
| 01:29.32 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I don't care about you. |
| 01:29.35 | ckknight | it's not _for_ you |
| 01:29.54 | Aiiane | no soup for you! |
| 01:30.26 | Amadeo | It's for me! |
| 01:30.34 | Amadeo | Mmmm soup |
| 01:31.05 | NightHawkTheSane | I have soup! |
| 01:31.08 | NightHawkTheSane | well. okay, it's ramen, which is really barely even food. |
| 01:31.18 | kergoth | <3 ramen |
| 01:31.22 | kergoth | food or not, ramen rocks |
| 01:31.27 | JJSheets | Ramen is nector of the gods of destitution/ |
| 01:31.34 | NightHawkTheSane | I didnt say it didnt rock. :) |
| 01:31.38 | JJSheets | nectar even :) |
| 01:32.35 | CIA-11 | 03jjsheets * r33126 10Expo/modules/Profiler.lua: Expo - Fixed problem with sorting by memory use per call. |
| 01:33.17 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33127 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - optimization |
| 01:33.31 | Funkeh` | im not talking about me, im saying if you want to make it more efficient, who for? yourself? why even bother commit? |
| 01:33.48 | vhaarr | it's not about making it more efficient |
| 01:34.23 | ckknight | it's not making it any more efficient at all |
| 01:34.35 | ckknight | it just splits it up so that I can view results easier |
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| 01:34.40 | JJSheets | Okay, Expo is pretty much complete except for possible bug-fixes etc. But if anybody has a useful module or change to add to it, feel free to code it up and send it to me. |
| 01:47.40 | NightHawkTheSane | what does expo do, anyway? :D |
| 01:47.40 | JJSheets | NightHawkTheSane, it's a developer addon... tracks events, can track debug messages, evaluates Lua expressions in real time, and profiles code. Many thanks to vhaarr, ag, and ckknight for their code that I used. :) |
| 01:47.40 | vhaarr | ckknight: lol, with Ace2 "disembedded", AceLibrary is actually at the top of my CPU usage list. |
| 01:47.41 | vhaarr | JJSheets: okay okay, you can stop thanking me now :P |
| 01:47.41 | NightHawkTheSane | JJSheets: iiinteresting |
| 01:47.41 | JJSheets | lmao |
| 01:47.41 | vhaarr | ag didn't write any of it, btw |
| 01:47.41 | ckknight | vhaarr: same, can't figure it out |
| 01:47.41 | ckknight | making assorted library fixes |
| 01:47.41 | JJSheets | vhaarr, just wanted to make sure I didn't get a "Give me credit or die!" of doom. |
| 01:47.41 | JJSheets | heh |
| 01:47.41 | JJSheets | ag didn't? he's in the commit list... ah well. :) |
| 01:47.42 | vhaarr | ckknight: that's at initial load, though - after a minute now I see that AceEvent climbs above it. |
| 01:47.42 | vhaarr | JJSheets: Not the module stuff. |
| 01:47.42 | JJSheets | ah |
| 01:47.42 | vhaarr | (which I assume is what you used) |
| 01:47.42 | JJSheets | yes, the basic framework. |
| 01:47.43 | vhaarr | right, that was all me |
| 01:47.43 | ckknight | vhaarr: one thing is that if an addon registers an event with AceEvent like so AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):RegisterEvent("event", function() end), then AceEvent handles it, not the addon. |
| 01:47.44 | vhaarr | ckknight: can't really do anything about that, though. |
| 01:47.44 | ckknight | except change the addons themselves |
| 01:47.44 | vhaarr | right |
| 01:47.44 | vhaarr | I wonder why AceModuleCore eats 350ms |
| 01:47.44 | vhaarr | :IsModule |
| 01:47.53 | chutwig | yay got my mindblade |
| 01:47.54 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33128 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: .AceModuleCore-2.0: Optimization for common paths in :IsModule(...). |
| 01:47.55 | vhaarr | okay, that reduced AceModuleCores CPU time onLoad from 350ms to 14ms |
| 01:47.56 | JJSheets | vhaarr, ckknight, you to going crazy optimizing with Expo, or something else? :) |
| 01:47.56 | JJSheets | s/to/two/ |
| 01:47.57 | vhaarr | JJSheets: just PerformanceFu so far, but I'm itching to try Expo |
| 01:47.57 | ckknight | JJSheets: PerformanceFu and DebugFu |
| 01:47.57 | ckknight | does Expo replace those for me? |
| 01:47.58 | vhaarr | and debugfu, right |
| 01:47.59 | JJSheets | not sure. I use neither. :p |
| 01:48.51 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33129 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: .AceLibrary - optimizations (mostly thanks to vhaarr) |
| 01:48.51 | JJSheets | I take it PerformanceFu is showing you Blizzard Profiler CPU times? |
| 01:48.51 | ckknight | yes, per-addon |
| 01:48.52 | ckknight | I need per-addon and per-namespace profiling |
| 01:48.52 | ckknight | for CPU and memory |
| 01:48.52 | ckknight | basically |
| 01:48.53 | ckknight | well, memory for per-namespace not so important |
| 01:49.06 | JJSheets | Expo can be set to profile Libraries and Classes, Addons including Modules, and I believe any Generic function or table of functions. |
| 01:49.17 | JJSheets | and it profiles memory and time. |
| 01:49.35 | vhaarr | JJSheets: screenshot? |
| 01:49.38 | ckknight | that works for me |
| 01:49.42 | JJSheets | Uno momento. |
| 01:49.56 | ckknight | can Expo give the total addon (not namespace) memory/cpu? |
| 01:50.12 | JJSheets | ckknight, not yet, but it should be easy to add. |
| 01:50.16 | ckknight | add it |
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| 01:50.19 | ckknight | then I'll use Expo |
| 01:50.19 | JJSheets | will do. |
| 01:50.27 | ckknight | :-) |
| 01:53.59 | ckknight | and apparently some people are still using :assert |
| 01:54.07 | JJSheets | lol |
| 01:54.13 | ckknight | 4000 times |
| 01:54.48 | JJSheets | gotta octuple check, y'know. |
| 01:55.38 | ckknight | lol |
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| 01:57.34 | JJSheets | vhaarr, Expo Screenshots: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5707.0 |
| 01:57.47 | JJSheets | First and last post have screenshots. |
| 01:58.19 | vhaarr | ah, nice |
| 01:58.31 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: dammit now I want icecream |
| 01:58.36 | JJSheets | lol |
| 01:59.11 | Funkeh` | lol vhaarr |
| 02:00.33 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33130 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua: PeriodicTable-3.0 - replace :asserts with if statements and :errors |
| 02:00.57 | Arrowmaster | who the fuck commented aceoo out of the ace2 toc |
| 02:01.21 | vhaarr | lol |
| 02:01.36 | ckknight | whoops |
| 02:01.39 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 02:01.40 | Arrowmaster | friend just updated using wau and everything broke |
| 02:01.55 | JJSheets | hahahah |
| 02:02.01 | pastamancer | priceless |
| 02:02.03 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33131 10Ace2/Ace2.toc: Ace2 - add AceOO back into toc (whoops) |
| 02:02.11 | ckknight | I blame gnomes |
| 02:02.20 | JJSheets | dirty short lil bastards they are. |
| 02:02.36 | ckknight | JJSheets: can I recommend a different way than doing <number>: 50 and <string>: player? |
| 02:02.44 | ckknight | why not 50 and "player"? |
| 02:03.18 | JJSheets | ckknight, no reason... consistency with other data types if anything. |
| 02:03.27 | hyperChipmunk | yea i was thinking the same |
| 02:03.33 | hyperChipmunk | you don't need to |
| 02:03.46 | hyperChipmunk | if it's a function, you don't put it in quotes |
| 02:03.56 | hyperChipmunk | if it's true or false, it can't be a function anyway |
| 02:04.13 | ckknight | JJSheets: they all seem consistent, you just do tostring(value) if it's not a string and ("%q"):format(value) if it is a string |
| 02:04.32 | ckknight | I'm gonna change it for you, out of spite |
| 02:04.35 | JJSheets | ckknight, easy change... it'll go in with totals. |
| 02:04.38 | JJSheets | lol |
| 02:04.54 | ckknight | totals? |
| 02:04.59 | JJSheets | per addon/class/library totals. |
| 02:05.02 | hyperChipmunk | so you only need strings in quotes, and nothing for numbers, booleans, and functions |
| 02:05.07 | JJSheets | patience kemosabe. |
| 02:05.23 | hyperChipmunk | and nil is just nil |
| 02:05.48 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33132 10Expo/Expo.lua: Expo - make strings show up as "thing" instead of <string>: thing, numbers show up as 50 instead of <number>: 50, etc. |
| 02:06.22 | hyperChipmunk | if you really want, you can put () after functions |
| 02:06.37 | ckknight | no, it turns into function: 0x463273 |
| 02:06.41 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 02:06.42 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 02:06.44 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 02:06.51 | CIA-11 | 03jjsheets * r33133 10Expo/modules/Profiler.lua: Expo - Added Per Addon/Library/Class Total Time and Memory Usage. |
| 02:06.54 | ckknight | it just does a tostring() |
| 02:06.56 | hyperChipmunk | hard to miss those |
| 02:07.25 | hyperChipmunk | too bad that's completely useless notation |
| 02:07.27 | JJSheets | well... I'm going to get dinner... feel free to fix anything else you don't like. :) |
| 02:07.45 | JoshBorke | Cryect: ping |
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| 02:13.08 | CIA-11 | 03verotas * r33134 10FreeRefills/ (. Core.lua): FreeRefills: added missing koKR translation |
| 02:13.20 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r33135 10ACP/ACP.lua: |
| 02:13.20 | CIA-11 | ACP: |
| 02:13.20 | CIA-11 | - fixed clicking "Accept" on rename dialog wasn't working. |
| 02:16.59 | CIA-11 | 03sayclub * r33136 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/Locales/koKR.lua: FuBar_RogueTimerFu: -Updated locale koKR |
| 02:17.02 | vhaarr | this Expo thing confuses and infuriates me |
| 02:19.23 | vhaarr | grrr |
| 02:21.48 | ckknight | yea, it's too confusing |
| 02:21.51 | ckknight | hard to deal with |
| 02:21.56 | ckknight | couldn't get it to profile correctly |
| 02:21.59 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 02:22.46 | vhaarr | and it threw a few errors at me as well, so I guess it's not quite ready |
| 02:26.00 | Cryect | JoshBorke: pong |
| 02:26.01 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:27.02 | JoshBorke | Cryect: where's ProTractor? :-D |
| 02:27.39 | Cryect | heh not quite ready been busy on other stuff the part for showing functions needs a little polishing |
| 02:27.53 | Cryect | other stuff being nonWoW stuff |
| 02:28.03 | JoshBorke | indeed |
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| 02:32.24 | bishop911 | whats up with the latest wowace betas? cartographer, aguf, fubar, and several others are fubarred |
| 02:33.00 | vhaarr | what's up with not giving us a specific error message? |
| 02:33.03 | ckknight | this whole operation is fubar, soldier! |
| 02:33.04 | hyperChipmunk | hehehe |
| 02:33.06 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33137 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: .AceLibrary - small optimization to argCheck |
| 02:33.17 | hyperChipmunk | he screwed it up bad |
| 02:33.20 | bishop911 | there were no error messages for me, they just didnt load =\ |
| 02:33.21 | hyperChipmunk | update it again |
| 02:33.23 | ckknight | bishop911: likely my bad. |
| 02:33.31 | Aiiane | lol |
| 02:33.32 | ckknight | bishop911: update again, it should be fixed now |
| 02:33.38 | bishop911 | cool |
| 02:33.42 | Aiiane | ck screw up something with the base libraries? :P |
| 02:34.05 | Aiiane | (gogo dependencies) |
| 02:34.06 | ckknight | Aiiane: commented out AceOO |
| 02:34.16 | Aiiane | ...yeah, that might do it |
| 02:34.23 | Cryect | who needs AceOO :-p |
| 02:34.43 | Aiiane | "Back in my day we did it all procedurally" |
| 02:35.06 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:35.11 | Aiiane | ...hmm, scary thought |
| 02:35.13 | ckknight | I've prepared a statement: |
| 02:35.14 | Aiiane | writing addons in BASICI |
| 02:35.15 | ckknight | my bad |
| 02:35.17 | Aiiane | *BASIC |
| 02:35.35 | vhaarr | I wonder why CandyBar is eating 40ms per bar, that's not good at all. |
| 02:36.18 | Aiiane | Can't resist.... I thought candybars were eaten, and not the other way around :P |
| 02:37.08 | vhaarr | ^^ |
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| 02:37.59 | ckknight | vhaarr: this profiling stuff is cool, eh? |
| 02:38.07 | vhaarr | I like it |
| 02:38.20 | vhaarr | need something like Expo though |
| 02:38.24 | vhaarr | just something that works |
| 02:39.54 | ckknight | DebugFu's not horrible |
| 02:40.12 | ckknight | if it had sorting, that'd do it, really |
| 02:40.16 | vhaarr | yep |
| 02:42.13 | bishop911 | ck, new versions still aint working yet. :O sure you uploaded them? |
| 02:42.33 | ckknight | bishop911: yes, and until you give me an error message or anything like that, I can't help you |
| 02:43.33 | bishop911 | i wish i could. i use bug grabber, but i cant open it. after the update i cant access it. i'll see what i can do to get you some error msgs |
| 02:44.10 | vhaarr | bishop911: Wait 15min, update, and try again. |
| 02:44.23 | vhaarr | that's before you do anything else. |
| 02:44.45 | ckknight | bishop911: turn off BugSack, keep buggrabber on. Reload |
| 02:45.22 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33138 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - remove old debug message |
| 02:47.03 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33139 10FuBar/FuBar_Panel.lua: FuBar - schedule event with FuBar, not raw AceEvent |
| 02:48.33 | CIA-11 | 03fenlis * r33140 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2.lua: |
| 02:48.33 | CIA-11 | Babble-2.2: |
| 02:48.34 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.20 | vhaarr | wtf, AceLibrary:assert had like 4.1k calls here, and I removed it from AceLibrary and reloaded UI, and I get no errors. |
| 02:52.13 | vhaarr | ah, I had updated PT3 |
| 02:52.36 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:52.37 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 02:52.40 | ckknight | PT3 did a lot |
| 02:53.08 | vhaarr | that is a lot indeed |
| 02:53.17 | vhaarr | must be at least 2-3 per item |
| 02:53.32 | vhaarr | no idea how many items are in PT3 total, actually |
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| 02:56.02 | ckknight | hey Roartindon |
| 02:56.11 | Roartindon | hey ckknight |
| 02:56.21 | ckknight | well, I optimized Ace2 |
| 02:56.28 | ckknight | everything is now wrapped in one big loadstring statement |
| 02:56.29 | Roartindon | how so? |
| 02:56.47 | ckknight | (jk) |
| 02:56.50 | Roartindon | Ohh... feature comparison with DBM! |
| 02:56.59 | Roartindon | Bring out the table |
| 02:57.00 | ckknight | beat em at their own game ;-) |
| 02:57.00 | Cryect | loadstring sounds good |
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| 02:57.20 | Roartindon | Put it on the main website: |
| 02:57.20 | Roartindon | -> DBM Bigwigs |
| 02:57.32 | Roartindon | Bossmod: X X |
| 02:57.37 | Roartindon | Loadstrings: X X |
| 02:57.45 | ckknight | lol. |
| 02:58.04 | Roartindon | Global Variables: 1,000,000 < 1000 |
| 02:58.18 | ckknight | looks like DBM wins that one |
| 02:58.20 | Roartindon | Subscript: [note: fewer is better] |
| 02:58.21 | ckknight | more = better |
| 02:58.25 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:58.30 | Garoun | that mouse-over frame isjust weird :P |
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| 02:58.42 | ckknight | Garoun: so don't use it, it's there for novelty purposes |
| 02:58.55 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33141 10FuBar_DebugFu/DebugFu.lua: |
| 02:58.55 | CIA-11 | FuBar_DebugFu - add sorting. |
| 02:58.55 | CIA-11 | - store stuff in AceDB-2.0 |
| 02:59.00 | ckknight | vhaarr: ^--- |
| 02:59.04 | Garoun | oh I wasn't complaining, I meant weird, as you said, ina novelty way :) |
| 02:59.04 | vhaarr | excellent |
| 02:59.17 | Roartindon | vharr: And yeah, Aloft has Banzai support now too :) |
| 02:59.57 | vhaarr | Roartindon: Guess it's time for me to test it, then :p |
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| 03:00.33 | Roartindon | The range limitation of nameplates is the most frustrating atm.. I don't suppose anyone has a copy of TBC beta's framexml stuff? |
| 03:00.40 | Roartindon | Where they had nameplate range as a standard option in the UI for a while |
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| 03:02.03 | vhaarr | Roartindon: Try wdn.wowinterface.com, it might have it. |
| 03:02.33 | Roartindon | oh cool, thanks |
| 03:04.11 | Roartindon | hmm.. the challenge is going to be figuring out which revision I need :) |
| 03:04.32 | FryGuy | is wowace.com down, or is it the fact that i'm downloading stuff on bittorrent :p |
| 03:05.03 | NightHawkTheSane | wts upstream limits? :P |
| 03:05.40 | FryGuy | i do |
| 03:05.45 | FryGuy | set to 30k/s |
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| 03:12.48 | kergoth | Roartindon: wget them all down and grep? |
| 03:12.50 | kergoth | heh |
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| 03:13.29 | chutwig | sigh |
| 03:13.33 | chutwig | there went all my hard-earned money |
| 03:14.05 | Funkeh` | you bought wow? |
| 03:14.13 | chutwig | 250g on enchanting mats :( |
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| 03:24.03 | bishop911 | question. if mod a's name is Amod, mod b's name is Bmod, and both mods load Ace2 on startup, however Bmod's version of Ace2 is more up to date, which Ace2 will stick- older or newer? |
| 03:24.32 | Funkeh` | newer ofc |
| 03:24.46 | bishop911 | damn |
| 03:24.47 | Mikma | bishop911: yes |
| 03:25.23 | bishop911 | one of the updated dependancies is causing about half of my mods not to load. problem is- there are no error messages |
| 03:26.04 | Mikma | bishop911: are you sure you have the "load out of date" check on? |
| 03:26.07 | Funkeh` | did you quit the game completely? |
| 03:26.16 | bishop911 | yes and yes. |
| 03:26.45 | bishop911 | im going to try downloading yesterdays version of dependancies updated today to figure out which one is the culprit, although it may take a while |
| 03:26.47 | Funkeh` | then revert |
| 03:26.54 | kenlyric | I had that happen to me... i just loaded Ace2 itself. |
| 03:27.12 | kenlyric | whatever was broken went away in a few days, and I got rid of ace2 standalone. |
| 03:27.17 | bishop911 | kenlyric: only Ace2, or other dependancies as well? |
| 03:27.44 | kenlyric | yeah, that's where the problem was. |
| 03:28.04 | kenlyric | though it's anecdotal... I have no idea if what I did had anything to do with it working :) |
| 03:28.26 | bishop911 | now, how would i stop 60+ mods from loading todays update of Ace2 if I revert only Ace2 to previous version? |
| 03:28.56 | kenlyric | you've somehow managed to merge two different' people's suggestions into one :) |
| 03:29.39 | bishop911 | well, I'm going to try your suggestion, but if my beliefs are true, than one of the dependancies that was just updated today is causing mods not to load |
| 03:29.48 | kenlyric | roll back your mods to previous versions that worked (that's the sensible one) or try installing ace2 standa lone and... see what happens. |
| 03:29.55 | bishop911 | so i want to revert just the dependancies to yesterdays versions |
| 03:30.13 | kenlyric | do you run with embeds? |
| 03:30.19 | bishop911 | yes |
| 03:35.14 | Kamaris | does anyone know of a tutorial to populate a frame of people joining a raid? |
| 03:38.19 | FISKER_Q | :o? |
| 03:38.26 | FISKER_Q | Now they nerfed illumination to 25%? |
| 03:38.35 | deltron | lol really? |
| 03:38.37 | vhaarr | 25? lol |
| 03:38.46 | deltron | looks like I have to go back to rest on my shaman :/ |
| 03:38.48 | FISKER_Q | Some post on general says |
| 03:38.59 | FISKER_Q | Says we also get 25% crit though |
| 03:39.14 | FISKER_Q | gonna log on test and make sure |
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| 03:41.01 | NightHawkTheSane | it may not necessarily be in the current ptr push. |
| 03:41.49 | FISKER_Q | if it's real though |
| 03:41.55 | FISKER_Q | It might actually be better than 50% mana back |
| 03:42.20 | NightHawkTheSane | well im just saying. :) |
| 03:42.22 | FISKER_Q | With your crit that high you can almost reliably downrank to a lesser rank to critheal as much as the heal would normally hit for |
| 03:43.32 | FISKER_Q | wtf :O |
| 03:43.41 | FISKER_Q | i almost pissed my pants |
| 03:44.24 | FISKER_Q | doomwalker was all like "Threat level zero" |
| 03:44.49 | Cryect | those are fake and it was divine illumination it said not illumination |
| 03:45.09 | FISKER_Q | oh |
| 03:45.31 | Cryect | the only paladin change for today was Imp Conc aura changed |
| 03:45.50 | Cryect | from adding Silence Resist to reducing time silenced |
| 03:45.50 | chuckg | From what to what? |
| 03:46.01 | FISKER_Q | from good to fail probably |
| 03:46.21 | Cryect | so instead of +30% Silence Resistance its now 30% Silence Time Reduction |
| 03:46.38 | FISKER_Q | ?? |
| 03:46.46 | Cryect | or whatever it was before |
| 03:46.51 | Cryect | 15% |
| 03:47.10 | FISKER_Q | "silence time reduction"? lol |
| 03:47.31 | NightHawkTheSane | so instead of a priest silencing you for 10s, it's now uh.. 8.5? |
| 03:47.32 | FISKER_Q | So no reason to go prot or ret |
| 03:47.47 | Cryect | ""Improved Concentration Aura" (Protection Talent) no longer increases resistance to Interrupt/Silence mechanics, but instead reduces the duration of Interrupt/Silence mechanics by 10/20/30%." |
| 03:47.50 | Cryect | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 03:48.10 | kenlyric | lol |
| 03:48.16 | vhaarr | So it's useless for channeled AoE. |
| 03:48.16 | kenlyric | that's dumb. |
| 03:48.16 | FISKER_Q | fucking fail |
| 03:48.18 | vhaarr | Great. |
| 03:48.50 | vhaarr | I guess we'll be erasing Illhoof from our DKP tables. |
| 03:48.57 | Cryect | I think they wanted to address people getting like ~50% silence resistance |
| 03:48.59 | Cryect | why? |
| 03:49.05 | Cryect | Illhoof was completely nerfed to hell |
| 03:49.15 | NightHawkTheSane | worst thing is, that's probably for pvp balance, but it borks up pally tanking something fierce |
| 03:49.19 | vhaarr | We use a Warlock to Hellfire all the imps. |
| 03:49.21 | kenlyric | dkp? in karazhan? |
| 03:49.38 | Cryect | Imps have less life and do less damage |
| 03:49.45 | vhaarr | in 2.1? |
| 03:49.47 | Cryect | Yes |
| 03:49.51 | vhaarr | heh okay then |
| 03:49.56 | Cryect | and illhoof no longer can sacrifice the MT |
| 03:50.02 | kenlyric | illhoof sacrificed our tank first all three attempts on him tonight. |
| 03:50.03 | kenlyric | that was fun. |
| 03:50.14 | kenlyric | and we only had one tank anyway. |
| 03:50.19 | Cryect | and why not just use Seed of Corruption? |
| 03:50.34 | Cryect | Heh I don't think our locks have used hellfire in ages except when trying to die before a wipe |
| 03:50.49 | kenlyric | what does the pally buff have to do with illhoof? |
| 03:50.53 | vhaarr | Hellfire works wonders, but maybe Seed works as well. |
| 03:50.54 | kenlyric | errr, silence nerf. |
| 03:51.07 | vhaarr | I said so 2 minutes ago. |
| 03:52.14 | Cryect | and it has noe ffect on illhoof because it still gives +50% resistance to interruption from damage |
| 03:52.17 | kenlyric | you did? I missed it... all I saw was something about removing him from the dkp tables :) |
| 03:52.44 | vhaarr | "Improved Concentration Aura" (Protection Talent) no longer increases resistance to Interrupt/Silence mechanics ..." |
| 03:52.44 | kenlyric | oh, my brain just made the connection to where you said you use hellfire on the imps. |
| 03:52.48 | Cryect | they only removed the part from interrupt/silence effects not pushback |
| 03:52.48 | kenlyric | yeah, don't use hellfire :) |
| 03:52.59 | Cryect | Imp Conc Aura has 2 parts |
| 03:53.01 | vhaarr | ah |
| 03:53.03 | Cryect | "Increases the effect of your Concentration Aura by an additional 15% and gives all group members affected by the aura an additional 15% chance to resist Silence and Interrupt effects." |
| 03:53.04 | vhaarr | alright, then |
| 03:53.06 | kenlyric | we never use conc aura on that fight... fire. |
| 03:53.32 | vhaarr | And people wonder why we don't put tactic information in BigWigs? |
| 03:53.48 | kenlyric | well, you didn't :) |
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| 03:55.32 | ckknight | hey all |
| 03:55.32 | ckknight | apparently we had a test today |
| 03:55.32 | FISKER_Q | did you lose? |
| 03:55.32 | FISKER_Q | :E |
| 03:55.32 | ckknight | no |
| 03:55.32 | ckknight | finished first |
| 03:55.33 | ckknight | in like half an hour |
| 03:55.36 | ckknight | we had 2 hours to complete it |
| 03:55.46 | kenlyric | he's either the dumbest person alive, or a brilliant beast. |
| 03:55.53 | gnorlish | was it a really hard test that you did good on because you're so smart? |
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| 03:55.57 | gnorlish | i'm thinking totally! |
| 03:56.36 | PProvost | ~seen ckknight |
| 03:56.41 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (2m 16s) #norganna (2m 16s) #wowace (2m 16s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 1m 5s, last said: 'we had 2 hours to complete it'. |
| 03:56.52 | FISKER_Q | hooh |
| 03:57.13 | ckknight | PProvost: I'm here. |
| 03:57.16 | PProvost | Hey man |
| 03:57.21 | ckknight | what's up? |
| 03:57.31 | ckknight | gnorlish: I'm smart :-P |
| 03:57.39 | PProvost | Been noticing something interesting about PitBull layouts and wanted to share it with you if you aren't dealing w/ something else. |
| 03:57.48 | FISKER_Q | are you smart enough to provide some kind of pairing of frames in pitbull? |
| 03:57.49 | FISKER_Q | rawr |
| 03:58.02 | FISKER_Q | he is now PProvost! |
| 03:58.44 | ckknight | pairing? |
| 03:58.56 | ckknight | PProvost: I've been working on optimizing Ace2, but go ahead |
| 03:59.00 | PProvost | Are you reusing/cloning the FontStrings you use for the different frames as you run through the list of frames to create? |
| 03:59.10 | PProvost | I ask because I'm seeing something interesting.... |
| 03:59.28 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33144 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - more schedule fixes |
| 03:59.49 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33145 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - typo |
| 04:00.01 | ckknight | PProvost: yes, they're recycled |
| 04:00.06 | PProvost | If I assign a Layout to "player" that sets, for example, nameText's Vertical Justification to BOTTOM, then "party" seems to inherit (not literally) that setting. |
| 04:00.22 | ckknight | hrm |
| 04:00.25 | ckknight | vertical justification? |
| 04:00.36 | ckknight | is there a :SetJustifyV? |
| 04:00.39 | PProvost | I'm thinking that to simplify the creation of Layouts, you should reset many of the settings to clearly defined values. |
| 04:00.41 | FISKER_Q | Pretty much like party grouping ckknight!1 |
| 04:00.42 | PProvost | Yes |
| 04:00.48 | ckknight | didn't know that |
| 04:00.50 | PProvost | And I use it in Buu.lua |
| 04:00.54 | ckknight | FISKER_Q: there's already party grouping. |
| 04:01.00 | ckknight | PProvost: what's the center? |
| 04:01.04 | ckknight | "CENTER"? |
| 04:01.10 | PProvost | Yes |
| 04:01.10 | FISKER_Q | i know duh! |
| 04:01.19 | FISKER_Q | I just want to be able to set it for my own frames |
| 04:01.30 | PProvost | But I'm wondering what other settings need to be defaulted as you reuse these things. |
| 04:01.33 | FISKER_Q | like pair Target/ToT/ToTT to a group |
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| 04:01.50 | PProvost | Font? |
| 04:01.57 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33146 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - apparently fontstrings have a :SetJustifyV. reset to CENTER on deletion |
| 04:01.59 | PProvost | HJust? VJust? |
| 04:02.03 | ckknight | FISKER_Q: no, you don't get to. |
| 04:02.14 | FISKER_Q | ok |
| 04:02.25 | ckknight | PProvost: look at the delframe function in PitBull.lua |
| 04:02.29 | kenlyric | They would send all of their friends to do fire spells and throw snowballs at me. It was like a seen right out of the holocaust with the NAZI's of HYJAL trying to torture me, a poor JEW. |
| 04:02.34 | PProvost | Coolio. Thanks ckk. Once that props I can remove 10 lines of code from ABF.lua. :) |
| 04:02.35 | kenlyric | perspective, much? ;) |
| 04:02.43 | chuckg | vhaarr, you want some A'lar combat logs? |
| 04:03.33 | vhaarr | chuckg: yes. |
| 04:03.38 | chuckg | Ok. |
| 04:03.42 | chuckg | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:03.42 | chuckg | =D |
| 04:03.43 | PProvost | Excellent. You okay w/ me updating that function if I find any others that don't have reasonable defaults? |
| 04:03.57 | FISKER_Q | transcriptor nub chuckg |
| 04:03.58 | PProvost | Or do you want me to run them thru you? |
| 04:04.00 | vhaarr | chuckg: no thanks |
| 04:04.06 | FISKER_Q | But that's like asking a robot if he wants a properly formatted datafile |
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| 04:04.31 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33147 10Ace2/ (14 files in 12 dirs): Ace2 - add LoadOnDemand: 1 to subfolder tocs |
| 04:04.32 | ckknight | PProvost: props? |
| 04:04.32 | chuckg | You only want them in transcriptor format? |
| 04:04.33 | FISKER_Q | chuckg just download transcriptor and set it to record each attempt :o |
| 04:04.42 | chuckg | I'd rather not. |
| 04:04.42 | vhaarr | chuckg: yes |
| 04:04.43 | ckknight | PProvost: yes, update the delFrame function |
| 04:04.46 | chuckg | SOrry. |
| 04:04.50 | PProvost | Dumb. Ignore that part about "props". :) |
| 04:04.53 | chuckg | I'd be happy to give you combatlogs though. |
| 04:05.04 | vhaarr | I wouldn't be happy to recieve them. |
| 04:05.09 | chuckg | Up to you. |
| 04:05.11 | PProvost | Now I need to write a layout that looks like a Grid cell. :) |
| 04:05.12 | deltron | lol |
| 04:05.16 | vhaarr | they are useless,t |
| 04:05.17 | ckknight | lol, PProvost |
| 04:05.19 | vhaarr | thanks anyway |
| 04:05.27 | Cryect | al'ar combat logs are useless btw |
| 04:05.27 | chuckg | Sure. |
| 04:05.31 | Cryect | there is no events to speak of |
| 04:05.40 | PProvost | Since Grid doesn't do Pets, I'm gonna have PitBull 'partypet' do it for me. |
| 04:06.10 | Cryect | Its really annoying fight for me to try to figure out good ways to handle timers for |
| 04:06.10 | PProvost | I don't suppose I can make the bar go vertical, can I? |
| 04:06.21 | vhaarr | Cryect: Then let me handle it. |
| 04:06.32 | ckknight | PProvost: I want that to be possible, but it's complex. |
| 04:06.39 | ckknight | PProvost: try it out, though. |
| 04:06.48 | ckknight | :SetDirection("VERTICAL") |
| 04:07.01 | Cryect | vhaarr: heh, here I have some combat logs and transcriptor but they won't give you anything really because if everything is done right nothing happens in the combatlogs themselves |
| 04:07.02 | PProvost | Hokey... I'll look at it. |
| 04:07.06 | NeoTron | oh shit I updated wowace and now fubar isn't visible. my simpleminimap doesn't work, autobar doesn't work |
| 04:07.09 | NeoTron | and I see no errors |
| 04:07.10 | PProvost | Sure do wish text wrapping worked too. |
| 04:07.17 | vhaarr | Cryect: I know, I have transcriptor logs already. |
| 04:07.28 | vhaarr | "already" |
| 04:07.30 | ckknight | NeoTron: disable BugSack, reload |
| 04:07.35 | Cryect | ah |
| 04:07.38 | vhaarr | I've had them for a month or so. |
| 04:07.50 | vhaarr | Cryect: But I need information about the fight in order to make a module. |
| 04:07.54 | PProvost | Any API changes coming in 2.1 ckknight ? |
| 04:08.01 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33148 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - comment out debug line |
| 04:08.09 | ckknight | PProvost: WoW 2.1? |
| 04:08.12 | PProvost | ya |
| 04:08.20 | ckknight | PProvost: nothing too drastic, outside of the profiling stuff |
| 04:08.32 | PProvost | Didn't see any in the rel notes, but I don't read closely outside the Druid notes. :) |
| 04:09.51 | NeoTron | so what is it with addons automatically reenabling themselves? :( |
| 04:09.58 | NeoTron | I turned off bugsack, reloaded ui and it's back |
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| 04:10.34 | vhaarr | Turned it off how? |
| 04:11.20 | NeoTron | disabled in the addon list |
| 04:11.30 | NeoTron | seems like I have to remove the physical files to get it to stick |
| 04:11.36 | vhaarr | Unpossible. |
| 04:11.58 | vhaarr | BugSack can't re-enable itself if turned off from the addon selection screen. |
| 04:12.04 | ckknight | yea, that's impossible, NeoTron |
| 04:12.07 | ckknight | disable it properly. |
| 04:12.35 | NeoTron | happens a lot |
| 04:12.42 | NeoTron | anyhow, I still see nothing |
| 04:12.52 | NeoTron | addons are loaded and have working /commands but aren't active |
| 04:12.54 | NeoTron | weird |
| 04:13.06 | Cryect | vhaarr: I wish transcriptor had something for tracking mob targets |
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| 04:13.21 | vhaarr | Cryect: You can add that in. |
| 04:13.23 | ckknight | NeoTron: if it happens a lot then you aren't disabling them properly. period. |
| 04:13.42 | NeoTron | ckknight: and what is proper then? please do tell |
| 04:13.51 | ckknight | what are you using to disable them? |
| 04:14.10 | Cryect | al'ar would be a good fight for it since really only way you can track transitions |
| 04:14.23 | NeoTron | std wow addon list as well as ACP |
| 04:14.25 | vhaarr | I know. |
| 04:14.51 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: check your WTF/Account/ACCOUNT_NAME/SERVER/CHARACTER/AddOns.txt file |
| 04:15.07 | NeoTron | still something is seriously broken because no ace addons seems to action function despite being loaded |
| 04:15.12 | NightHawkTheSane | see if it has a line that says ":enabled" or something, with no addon name. If it does, remove that. |
| 04:15.14 | ckknight | if you use the standard wow list, then it won't reenable it. ACP could possibly have a bug in it, but I'm not sure about that |
| 04:15.34 | ckknight | NeoTron: and without an error, we can't help |
| 04:15.40 | NeoTron | there IS no error |
| 04:15.50 | NeoTron | addons are loaded, work with / commands |
| 04:16.20 | NeoTron | ok here is one |
| 04:16.49 | NeoTron | AceEvent-2.0.lua:453: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) when clicking on the automar "unlock" button |
| 04:17.19 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33149 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: .AceLibrary - go back to normal argCheck thing. |
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| 04:18.51 | NeoTron | unfortunately I exited wowaceupdater so I'm not sure what it updated |
| 04:19.01 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33150 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - added assert |
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| 04:20.54 | NeoTron | If I try to open cart (it shows the normal map) I get: LookNFeel.lua: 374: Tablet-2.0: Bad argyment #2 to SetFontSizePercent (got nil) |
| 04:21.03 | NeoTron | sorry for not full errors but can't cut'n'paste |
| 04:21.25 | ckknight | well, only the first error really matters |
| 04:21.43 | ckknight | when that last commit (r33150) percolates to files, update |
| 04:21.51 | NeoTron | ok |
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| 04:23.47 | kenlyric | where'd you guys see the current changes to the ptr, like that illumination being reduced to 25%? |
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| 04:24.15 | Cryect | that was in a huge set of fake patch notes someone made up |
| 04:24.37 | kenlyric | ah, new ones or the ones from a couple weeks ago? |
| 04:24.44 | Cryect | new ones |
| 04:24.46 | Cryect | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96146874&postId=958695367&sid=1#0 |
| 04:24.53 | kenlyric | those people are always swell. |
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| 04:26.18 | ckknight | kenlyric: that's divine illumination, not illumination |
| 04:26.58 | kenlyric | oh, I see.. still, directly related to the illumination nerf :) |
| 04:27.15 | kenlyric | lol, these fake patch notes aren't even't convincing. They should work harder on these. |
| 04:27.19 | deltron | that's some silly pally junk |
| 04:27.23 | deltron | stuff I don't care about |
| 04:27.27 | Cryect | yeah its a lot of stuff that some person just wants to see |
| 04:27.28 | deltron | let's re-buff shaman please |
| 04:28.09 | ckknight | -Arena Preparation now also removes reagent costs from spells and abilities. |
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| 04:28.28 | deltron | oh that's nice |
| 04:28.35 | ckknight | that would be nice |
| 04:28.47 | kenlyric | it's obviously someone who like arena :) |
| 04:28.51 | winkiller | free posions o/ |
| 04:29.01 | FISKER_Q | If onlythey were real :O |
| 04:29.21 | kenlyric | ckknight: screw that! |
| 04:29.25 | kenlyric | ckknight: free crafting! |
| 04:29.33 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:29.48 | kenlyric | just mass produce whatever purple boe you have :) |
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| 04:31.18 | winkiller | lol |
| 04:34.29 | NeoTron | ckknight: it is now working again |
| 04:34.36 | ckknight | NeoTron: alright then |
| 04:38.36 | Funkeh` | later |
| 04:40.02 | hyperChipmunk | ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ( ^ > ~~~ |
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| 04:40.14 | hyperChipmunk | ~~~ < ^ ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 04:41.12 | FISKER_Q | i still like you hyperChipmunk |
| 04:41.21 | FISKER_Q | you are my best friend! |
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| 04:50.49 | ckknight | vhaarr: trick! |
| 04:51.30 | mjc | purl: blame ckknight |
| 04:51.38 | purl | ACTION blames ckknight (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 04:51.50 | ckknight | bad = true; local _,name = issecurevariable("bad"); DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(name); bad = nil |
| 04:56.43 | hyperChipmunk | JJSheets: all cooldowns go screwy when i run out of grapes |
| 04:57.15 | JJSheets | define screwy? :p |
| 04:57.27 | Cryect | The point of that trick is what exactly? |
| 04:57.32 | hyperChipmunk | like, they forget to start |
| 04:57.40 | Cryect | using issecure to find out the addon instead of debug stack? |
| 04:57.46 | hyperChipmunk | or sometimes abilities don't de-activate after they've activated |
| 04:58.09 | ckknight | Cryect: no, to find what WoW thinks the current addon scope is |
| 04:58.14 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.16 | ckknight | which is sometimes not what you'd expect |
| 04:58.19 | Cryect | Oh okay |
| 04:59.08 | ckknight | can't figure out precisely what dictates it, though |
| 04:59.31 | Cryect | Yeah I tried to use that to connect functions to addons and found it work horribly |
| 04:59.36 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33151 10Aloft/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 04:59.36 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 04:59.36 | CIA-11 | - Added UnitClassification database (Stores rares/elites/rare elites/world bosses) |
| 04:59.36 | CIA-11 | - Added "Show Classification" option to Level text |
| 04:59.36 | CIA-11 | - Removed reference to roster from GuildData which didn't use it |
| 04:59.36 | CIA-11 | - Updated AloftTag to allow for better conditional expressions |
| 04:59.41 | Cryect | tons of stuff gets credited to Ace 2 |
| 05:00.04 | ckknight | right, been trying to work around that. |
| 05:00.25 | Cryect | I think the issue with if you start your structure with = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceConsole-2.0") |
| 05:00.38 | Cryect | then that entire structure has been tainted via Ace 2 |
| 05:00.38 | deltron | i get that error |
| 05:00.43 | deltron | I posted a pasty earlier heh |
| 05:01.02 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, anything else? |
| 05:01.56 | Cryect | But... thats only for taint considerations it still seems to count functions based on what directory debugstack says they are with as far as I can tell and not what tainted it |
| 05:02.22 | Cryect | only issue is getting debugstack to work with stuff that isn't my functions >_> |
| 05:03.23 | hyperChipmunk | JJSheets: probably |
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| 05:05.48 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33152 10Aloft/AloftTag.lua: Aloft: AloftTag - stray character fix.... |
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| 05:11.16 | ckknight | I'm wondering how much info is out there that dictates what addon is viewed as the "current" addon |
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| 05:13.17 | nymbia | seemed to me like it was whichever addon created the frame whose handler is being executed |
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| 05:13.28 | Cryect | I would assume blizzard does something involving something along the lines of debug.getinfo(function,"s") (except the equivalent C function) to assign addons |
| 05:13.39 | Cryect | for function |
| 05:15.11 | FISKER_Q | i said i'm sorry nymbia |
| 05:15.17 | nymbia | O.o |
| 05:16.05 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33153 10Aloft/ (AloftTag.lua CoreModules/ClassificationData.lua): |
| 05:16.06 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 05:16.06 | CIA-11 | - AloftTag now uses a local tagMethods variable in generated tag functions to avoid GETGLOBAL (in preference of GETUPVALUE) |
| 05:16.06 | CIA-11 | - ClassificationData is now account wide |
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| 05:19.01 | mjc | Roartindon: sexy mod |
| 05:19.11 | Roartindon | mjc: thanks |
| 05:19.58 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33154 10Aloft/CoreModules/ClassificationData.lua: Aloft: ClassificationData - small tidy up |
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| 05:23.25 | FISKER_Q | anyone know where to input the TCG codes? |
| 05:24.25 | Cryect | Various NPC's |
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| 05:24.55 | mjc | Roartindon: toggling with v and shift v didn't work correctly last time I updated where ckknight didn't break the universe... |
| 05:24.56 | Cryect | Like the monkey NPC I believe is in Booty Bay but should tell you on the website |
| 05:25.01 | FISKER_Q | yeah i know |
| 05:25.09 | FISKER_Q | But you have to input the code to get a generated code |
| 05:25.14 | FISKER_Q | on their site |
| 05:25.17 | Cryect | oh |
| 05:25.17 | FISKER_Q | but i found it now |
| 05:25.33 | Roartindon | mjc: hmm... could you have another addon interfering? It's working for me right now |
| 05:26.39 | mjc | Roartindon: hitting v should toggle mob nameplates, shift v should toggle player nameplates... it wasn't doing that last I updated. currently ckknight broke the universe for me so I can't test a more recent version :( |
| 05:26.53 | Roartindon | mjc: It does that fine on mine atm |
| 05:27.13 | mjc | alright. I'll investigate once I figure out which mods are still misbehaving ;) |
| 05:27.15 | Roartindon | I'm going to commit a modification that will make it work even if you have addons that don't obey the NAMEPLATES_ON/FRIENDNAMEPLATES_ON convention |
| 05:27.33 | mjc | I don't have any other nameplateish mods so it shouldn't matter |
| 05:28.41 | FISKER_Q | nymbia is relevant to my interests |
| 05:28.57 | mjc | nymbia is a sl00t |
| 05:29.02 | Roartindon | mjc: Even mods like SCT call nameplate functions without setting the global vars |
| 05:29.04 | mjc | just like ckknight :) |
| 05:29.11 | mjc | Roartindon: don't use that. |
| 05:29.29 | mjc | basically pitbull aloft and icehud |
| 05:29.43 | mjc | the rest are random little snippets I know don't make any use of nameplate stuff |
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| 05:29.48 | JJSheets | automaton? mjc |
| 05:29.51 | mjc | nope |
| 05:29.54 | JJSheets | k |
| 05:30.08 | mjc | turned it off after it got annoying :P |
| 05:31.51 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33155 10Aloft/Aloft.lua: |
| 05:31.51 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 05:31.51 | CIA-11 | - Changes to how Show/Hide nameplate functions are intercepted to make them work more consistently, even with addons that don't update the NAMEPLATES global variables appropriately. |
| 05:32.00 | mjc | oh god, apple, how I love thee |
| 05:32.16 | mjc | being able to eject CDROM via keyboard key at EFI bootscreen = win |
| 05:32.46 | Roartindon | they had to, because they don't have the paper-clip hole that PCs would use :) |
| 05:33.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon: thats not strictly true |
| 05:34.01 | mjc | CS3 due out any day now |
| 05:34.03 | mjc | wewt. |
| 05:34.04 | Roartindon | well, if you want to eject a CD on a PC before it loads, you either press the eject button before the bios finishes, or you paper clip it |
| 05:34.08 | mjc | Roartindon: I do have a paper clip hole |
| 05:34.16 | mjc | too lazy to use it though, that would require getting up |
| 05:34.23 | NightHawkTheSane | And finding a paper clip |
| 05:34.28 | Roartindon | my macs all have slot loads... |
| 05:34.29 | FISKER_Q | is waaaaaaaaaaaareeeeeeeez already mjc |
| 05:34.36 | Roartindon | don't see a paper clip hole :) |
| 05:34.39 | mjc | Roartindon: paperclip is on the right side |
| 05:34.53 | Roartindon | hmm.. don't see it at all on this macbook pro |
| 05:34.59 | FISKER_Q | paperclips are for mudkips |
| 05:35.09 | mjc | link inc |
| 05:35.14 | FISKER_Q | duck |
| 05:35.38 | mjc | never needed a clip on a mac anyways thoguh, cept one MBP user who stuck a half size DVD in the slot load drive |
| 05:35.51 | mjc | s/stuck/forced/ |
| 05:36.21 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, I don think I've used in a real long time |
| 05:37.57 | mjc | Roartindon: move the foam down on the right side |
| 05:38.01 | mjc | it's there, just looked |
| 05:38.02 | CIA-11 | 03jjsheets * r33156 10InfiniBar/ (IB_Core.lua IB_Standard.lua MacroSupport.lua): |
| 05:38.02 | CIA-11 | InfiniBar - Major Optimizations, Memory Usage is down to 0.5 or lower KiB/sec, |
| 05:38.02 | CIA-11 | except when state changing which can increase it to 4 KiB/sec for a second. My |
| 05:38.02 | CIA-11 | Frame rate jumps from 60 fps down to 45 - 55 fps on a state change, jumping back |
| 05:38.02 | CIA-11 | up to 60 fps after a second. |
| 05:38.18 | Roartindon | mjc: Heh.. I'm glad I've never had reason to need to look :) |
| 05:38.49 | mjc | JJSheets: l2mac, I get 190fps on osx and like 45 on windows... |
| 05:38.50 | mjc | ;D |
| 05:38.57 | mjc | multithreaded ftw. |
| 05:39.17 | NightHawkTheSane | I get 10 fps. 5 If I'm not idling. |
| 05:39.19 | Roartindon | yeah, but at what resolution? |
| 05:39.29 | mjc | 1600x1200@32bit |
| 05:39.38 | Roartindon | Macs don't have the graphics chipsets needed to run at the fps I want at 2560x1600 |
| 05:39.39 | FISKER_Q | I'm a lol |
| 05:39.41 | JJSheets | mjc, first I'd need to l2care and l2havetonsofcashtowasteonanewputerfornoreasonotherthantosatisfyyourmacurges. |
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| 05:39.50 | NightHawkTheSane | dammit |
| 05:39.54 | JJSheets | good luck with that... :) |
| 05:40.15 | mjc | JJSheets: I had a 1.6ghz opteron before this with dying RAM and motherboard... it was due time |
| 05:40.31 | mjc | suggest you should switch if you find yourself in a similar situation :) |
| 05:40.55 | JJSheets | anybody know what the url is for the IRC chat log for wowace? |
| 05:41.09 | nuoHep | ~logs |
| 05:41.11 | purl | logs is probably apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 05:41.23 | JJSheets | why thank you. |
| 05:42.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Hm, anyone here ever played Legend of Dragoon? |
| 05:42.46 | nuoHep | oh... new alpha inheritance is teh sex |
| 05:43.25 | Roartindon | new alpha inheritance? |
| 05:43.35 | nuoHep | Frame alpha is inherited from parent frames, the same way scale does. |
| 05:44.59 | JJSheets | night ya'll |
| 05:45.03 | nuoHep | dont know, maybe it was not a right term (inheritance), but im not a native speaker so its the first word that came to my mind |
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| 05:49.09 | ckknight | hey all |
| 05:50.53 | Roartindon | reminds me that I was going to check some alpha stuff in aloft.... |
| 05:51.59 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33157 10Aloft/CoreModules/Frame.lua: |
| 05:51.59 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 05:51.59 | CIA-11 | - UIFrame and BackdropFrame are set to the nameplate's alpha level on creation |
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| 05:57.01 | vhaarr | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5738.0;topicseen - I'm guessing AceEvent changes. |
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| 06:06.51 | ckknight | vhaarr: or possibly me commenting out AceOO-2.0 in Ace2's toc |
| 06:07.02 | ckknight | wait, no |
| 06:07.08 | ckknight | yea, I'd need to get the real error. |
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| 06:07.51 | ckknight | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=97739994&postId=975612354&sid=1#2 |
| 06:08.02 | ckknight | according to slouken, my AceEvent changes were all for naught |
| 06:08.16 | ckknight | if that's true, I'm gonna be reverting :-P |
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| 06:09.17 | pt123 | hi..i have a question about attributes..can i have a 1 on 1 chat with neone |
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| 06:09.47 | ckknight | pt123: attributes are complex |
| 06:09.58 | ckknight | and don't ask to ask, just ask |
| 06:10.51 | pt123 | umm..im a bit confuse about attribute growth..is the starting attrib just starting..or does ur race also effect ur growth..like throughout the game..a UD mage would gain less INT than a BE mage right? |
| 06:12.08 | ckknight | oh, that. |
| 06:12.14 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 06:12.17 | ckknight | no, they gain at the same rate |
| 06:12.23 | nymbia | per level stat growth is identical for a given class, no matter the race. the only difference is the stats at level 1 |
| 06:12.24 | ckknight | they may start differently, though |
| 06:12.49 | pt123 | so at lvl 70..UD is just like..6 point behind BE and gnomes right? |
| 06:13.06 | pt123 | nvm gnome..forgot bout their racial |
| 06:13.09 | nymbia | well for int, gnomes win hands down because of expansive mind |
| 06:13.18 | nymbia | but yes, in general that's the case |
| 06:13.37 | pt123 | that makes starting stats pretty useless.. |
| 06:13.55 | nymbia | pretty much |
| 06:14.19 | nymbia | but it'd suck if a certain race was the hands-down best for any given class |
| 06:14.21 | nymbia | no variety |
| 06:14.50 | pt123 | hmm then for gnomes..is the 5% int just base int.or total |
| 06:14.52 | NightHawkTheSane | what, like tauren warriors? :P |
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| 06:16.06 | Diao | total |
| 06:16.16 | Diao | tauren warriors aren't the best warriors :( |
| 06:16.35 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, cause 5% total health is meaningless to a tank |
| 06:16.56 | pt123 | ok thx alot..umm 2 more question |
| 06:17.21 | pt123 | i dont get how spell damage is stacked..like for Mind mastery..if it gives..100 spell damage..is that 100 more damage to ur spell..or is it calculated differently |
| 06:17.38 | vhaarr | pt123: I'm not quite sure why you're asking these questions here. |
| 06:17.47 | vhaarr | pt123: wowwiki.com answers your question. |
| 06:18.01 | Diao | oh for a tank |
| 06:18.05 | pt123 | sorry..i dont understand the complex formulas |
| 06:18.08 | kergoth | it's answered both of those questions |
| 06:19.54 | ckknight | pt123: but math is fun |
| 06:19.58 | ckknight | and knowledge is power! |
| 06:20.12 | pt123 | lol ok..ill look at it some more |
| 06:20.18 | vhaarr | ckknight: jeez, pitbull is a beast, these menus are even worse than the agUF ones. |
| 06:20.31 | ckknight | *shrug* |
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| 06:20.53 | ckknight | it's very customizable |
| 06:21.19 | pastamancer | vhaarr: are the menus worse than grid? |
| 06:21.26 | vhaarr | pastamancer: quite |
| 06:21.29 | pastamancer | because that would be an accomplishment |
| 06:21.52 | vhaarr | It could stand a few changes, that's for sure. Like modules that have just one option do NOT need to be type = "group", they can have their option be top-level. |
| 06:21.58 | NightHawkTheSane | I dont know, unless ckknight's deliberately added some obfuscation to the menues, I'd say grid is still wose |
| 06:22.02 | vhaarr | And take a look at the "Layout settings" menu, wtf, 3 submenus? |
| 06:22.05 | NightHawkTheSane | worse* |
| 06:22.22 | ckknight | vhaarr: yea, that needs to change, it's a weird fringe case |
| 06:22.27 | vhaarr | well I haven't looked at the Grid menus in quite some time, but this is just insane. |
| 06:22.33 | pastamancer | I really think the future of ultra-customizable unit frames is a DSL |
| 06:22.38 | vhaarr | ckknight: and the player frame looks like shit by default |
| 06:23.01 | NightHawkTheSane | DSL? |
| 06:23.09 | pastamancer | domain-specific language |
| 06:23.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh, yeah, probably |
| 06:23.27 | ckknight | vhaarr: naughty language |
| 06:23.35 | ckknight | vhaarr: how does it look bad? |
| 06:23.54 | vhaarr | ckknight: It's really, really big, and it uses the Blizzard statusbar texture. |
| 06:24.06 | ckknight | I like bigness, for one |
| 06:24.19 | ckknight | and I haven't included a non-Blizz texture |
| 06:24.32 | vhaarr | perhaps include at least one |
| 06:24.49 | pastamancer | smooth is nice and generic |
| 06:25.02 | vhaarr | I like the CPU time I'm seeing, which is about 1/3 of agUF |
| 06:25.09 | vhaarr | but memory-wise it's almost identical |
| 06:25.58 | todd | fubar_performancefu won't go to any position on fubar other than left =( |
| 06:26.13 | vhaarr | yeah Smooth looks good for default |
| 06:26.28 | vhaarr | todd: It's because of a AceConsole/Dewdrop bug. |
| 06:26.46 | vhaarr | it's not PerformanceFu's fault :) |
| 06:27.33 | todd | k :P |
| 06:27.34 | vhaarr | and pitbulls menus have absolutely no descriptions |
| 06:27.49 | vhaarr | agUF suffered the same problem until I smacked ag around for a month or so |
| 06:28.06 | vhaarr | they're still bad for agUF, but at least there's something |
| 06:28.56 | pastamancer | vhaarr: http://grid.13th-floor.org/screenshots/Grid%20Docs/Grid_Menu_Frame_Border.png |
| 06:29.17 | pastamancer | for comparison |
| 06:30.27 | vhaarr | pastamancer: http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot042007082940jv5.jpg |
| 06:31.01 | pastamancer | ohgod |
| 06:31.56 | pastamancer | yeah, that's a busy menu |
| 06:33.06 | pastamancer | it looks like it could use the ability to throw 'aura side' directly under 'layout settings' and things need to be organiced rather than just sorted alphabetically |
| 06:33.06 | pastamancer | s/organiced/organized |
| 06:33.29 | vhaarr | that's what I said |
| 06:33.40 | pastamancer | well then, I agree |
| 06:33.41 | vhaarr | stuff that has just one option doesn't need to be wrapped in a type = group |
| 06:34.09 | pastamancer | what's bigger for me is getting all the stuff in the 'player' menu organized into groups |
| 06:34.22 | vhaarr | that's step 2 |
| 06:34.23 | nymbia | vhaarr: it doesnt just have one option |
| 06:34.31 | ckknight | vhaarr: it's in alpha |
| 06:34.31 | vhaarr | nymbia: I understand that |
| 06:34.41 | vhaarr | nymbia: I'm not talking about the layout settings menu |
| 06:34.47 | vhaarr | ckknight: yeah, so there's room for discussion |
| 06:34.52 | nymbia | i'm not either |
| 06:34.52 | pastamancer | it's never too soon for feedback :p |
| 06:35.10 | vhaarr | nymbia: I'm pretty sure some of the groups there could be just one option |
| 06:35.17 | vhaarr | nymbia: for example the "Combat Icon" menu |
| 06:35.19 | ckknight | vhaarr: the menu's going to get a complete revamp one day |
| 06:35.23 | vhaarr | "Master Looter" |
| 06:35.24 | nymbia | vhaarr: true |
| 06:35.29 | vhaarr | nymbia: right, so, then. |
| 06:35.35 | vhaarr | you see my point. |
| 06:35.44 | nymbia | indeed ;) |
| 06:36.16 | vhaarr | ckknight: at least it seems like if I can get it configured properly, the actual frames should work now, so that's nice :) |
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| 06:36.59 | vhaarr | something has to be done at the top level as well |
| 06:37.29 | vhaarr | "Mouse-over's target", seriously :p |
| 06:37.36 | ckknight | what? |
| 06:37.58 | ckknight | you'd rather it be "The target of the guy you have your mouse over"? |
| 06:38.10 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:38.12 | vhaarr | no, I'd rather it wasn't available by default |
| 06:38.18 | ckknight | why's that? |
| 06:38.25 | vhaarr | how about just having a small set of frames available by default, and a menu where you can turn on special stuff like that |
| 06:38.33 | ckknight | they're off by default. |
| 06:38.41 | vhaarr | they're in the menu by default |
| 06:38.42 | ckknight | so same effect |
| 06:38.52 | vhaarr | no, not the same effect, the menu looks intimidating |
| 06:39.04 | vhaarr | while as if it was 50% of the size, it wouldn't be as bad |
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| 06:43.35 | vhaarr | nymbia: disabling the configuration mode didn't hide the aura frames |
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| 06:52.20 | vhaarr | ckknight: you said it should get a revamp, so you're saying it would be a waste if I tried to clean it up a bit, or? |
| 06:52.29 | ckknight | oh no |
| 06:52.29 | nymbia | vhaarr: yeah i noticed that, it should be updating when it comes outta config mode but it doesnt |
| 06:52.34 | ckknight | if you want to go ahead, I'd commend you |
| 06:52.53 | vhaarr | okay, well, sleepytime now, but it seems it's ready for raid usage, so maybe I'll take a look |
| 06:52.55 | ckknight | vhaarr: an idea I had to simplify the base menu was to put party pets under party, party targets under party, etc. |
| 06:53.08 | vhaarr | ckknight: yes I thought about that, too |
| 06:53.14 | vhaarr | we'll see |
| 06:53.25 | vhaarr | anyway, nightynight |
| 06:53.50 | ckknight | I really should fix the whole fontstrings in layouts thing. |
| 06:53.58 | ckknight | and allow for layout inheritance. |
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| 07:10.52 | evl | Would there be any way to make a macro that did: if healthstone then /use healthstone else /use combat pot; /use major healing? |
| 07:11.06 | evl | I've gotten one working with all pots but it blows both my healthstone and pot at once |
| 07:11.38 | Toadkiller | nymbia: Did my last post make more sense? |
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| 07:12.25 | Dynom | evl: afaik those kind of macro's got nerfed? |
| 07:12.53 | evl | it was pseudocode, naturally with the new macro language |
| 07:13.11 | Dynom | that doesn't change my remark |
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| 07:15.48 | Diao | you can't have macros that make smart decisions anymore evl |
| 07:16.21 | evl | so now they only make dumb decisions? |
| 07:17.00 | Heri1 | yes |
| 07:17.02 | Dynom | yeh |
| 07:17.07 | Heri1 | like if your target is friend/foe |
| 07:17.18 | Heri1 | and that's about it =P |
| 07:17.39 | Dynom | well tbh I think it's actually kinda good |
| 07:17.42 | Dynom | requires some more skill then just spamming one button |
| 07:17.58 | Toadkiller | Blizzard does not want you to automate the game. If u could then why play? THus they nerfed autopiloting, etc etc until they finally nerfed Decursive. It is your duty to never ever use Decursive again but use Grid instead |
| 07:18.01 | Dynom | which check for mana efficiency, ranks, cooldowns, etc |
| 07:18.06 | Diao | yeah |
| 07:18.07 | Diao | but |
| 07:18.09 | Diao | it also nerfs things like |
| 07:18.10 | Diao | sunder x5 |
| 07:18.12 | Diao | then devastate |
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| 07:18.20 | Diao | which is kind of dumb imo |
| 07:18.28 | Dynom | Diao: I beleive thats under the topic 'l2p' |
| 07:18.38 | Diao | i just don't like having to use 2 different keys |
| 07:18.40 | Diao | to sunder and devas |
| 07:18.47 | Diao | :p |
| 07:18.53 | Diao | taking up extra keybindings :( |
| 07:18.55 | Dynom | -_- |
| 07:19.00 | Toadkiller | you can macro 5 snders then devastate, it jsut wont check for success |
| 07:19.05 | Diao | i know |
| 07:19.10 | Diao | but that still means if a sunder fails |
| 07:19.18 | Diao | i have to have another key bound to sunder |
| 07:19.21 | Diao | to make up for it :P |
| 07:19.27 | Diao | which defeats the purpose! |
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| 07:19.46 | Toadkiller | use ctrl-key for sunder then jsut key for devastate imo |
| 07:19.50 | Diao | i don't use any macros anyway |
| 07:19.59 | Diao | except for switching between dw and 1h/shield |
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| 07:20.14 | Diao | that's kind of how i have it bound atm |
| 07:20.21 | Toadkiller | If u are prot u ought to get an intervene macro |
| 07:20.32 | Diao | heh |
| 07:20.35 | Diao | don't really need one |
| 07:20.39 | Diao | i just hit f which is my assist key |
| 07:20.39 | Dynom | I only use 1 macro; a life tap or dark-pact, but thats because I have it bound on a mouse button |
| 07:20.40 | Diao | and then intervene |
| 07:20.49 | Diao | and then g targets my last targetted hostile |
| 07:20.53 | Diao | so no need for macro ;) |
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| 07:22.05 | evl | What's so automaed about: |
| 07:22.15 | evl | I got a shitload of pots/stones, can I please get a button that uses whatever I have |
| 07:22.28 | Dynom | bartender ftw |
| 07:22.33 | evl | ./usehealthaugmentingdevicenowplix |
| 07:22.39 | hosk | my fears are realized |
| 07:22.45 | hosk | you guys should all know |
| 07:22.50 | hosk | WoW is Satan incarnate. |
| 07:22.59 | Diao | Don't know evl, but Blizzard doesn't want you doing that |
| 07:23.01 | Diao | :( |
| 07:23.18 | NightHawkTheSane | evl: autorack. |
| 07:23.27 | evl | hosk: my fears are realized, you should know, Trollings is Satan incarnate |
| 07:24.07 | hosk | i'm not trolling, i was curious what the channel was about |
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| 07:24.28 | evl | did you try the url in the topic? |
| 07:24.30 | hosk | but then i just threw in 2 cents of mine, and will probably peruse the website, then quietly leave |
| 07:24.31 | hosk | yeah |
| 07:24.43 | Nickenyfiken | WoW is so weird, im neutral with Netherwing faction so i can't attack the netherdrakes if i don't click the "at war" button. So now i can kill them but i don't lose any reputation... |
| 07:24.53 | Diao | lol |
| 07:24.56 | evl | i know, had the same prolbme :P |
| 07:24.58 | Diao | Yeah |
| 07:24.59 | evl | north in Netherstorm |
| 07:25.01 | evl | :D |
| 07:25.28 | evl | hosk: No problems, but it's important to realize that while some people like guns and shooting people we like elves, boobies and good solid electronic companionship |
| 07:25.47 | evl | I actually like dranei too |
| 07:25.52 | hosk | oh i'm not saying everybody should go play counter-strike |
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| 07:26.03 | evl | If everyone did that the world would succumb |
| 07:26.05 | hosk | i'm just an ex-addict and embittered at what the game took from me for like a year |
| 07:26.13 | Dynom | What I hate about wow is the endless grinding/farming |
| 07:26.15 | evl | Counter-Strike is a spawning ground for bad english and worse manners! |
| 07:26.26 | Dynom | tbh wolrd pvp should be more rewarding |
| 07:26.36 | FISKER_Q | and asians killing students |
| 07:26.37 | evl | Dynom: What I hate about WoW is people that say they hate wow for reasons A, B and C yet continue to feed the Blizzard beast with their money :) |
| 07:26.40 | FISKER_Q | don't forget that Evansbee |
| 07:26.41 | FISKER_Q | evl |
| 07:26.56 | Punkie` | Dynom: in relation to other MMO's WoW has really little grinding and farming :P |
| 07:26.57 | evl | FISKER_Q: I thought that was Grand Theft Auto? |
| 07:27.05 | Diao | actually pub^^ |
| 07:27.05 | evl | Yeah, go try Eq2 |
| 07:27.05 | FISKER_Q | also that |
| 07:27.05 | Diao | er |
| 07:27.06 | Diao | Punkie` |
| 07:27.11 | Diao | WoW just disguises that grinding and farming |
| 07:27.12 | Diao | VERY well |
| 07:27.17 | FISKER_Q | y helo thar Punkie` |
| 07:27.23 | Punkie` | what, into nice scripted encounters? |
| 07:27.27 | Punkie` | ok, if you say so |
| 07:27.28 | evl | hehe :D |
| 07:27.30 | evl | touché |
| 07:27.31 | Diao | farming for consumables, farming for rep |
| 07:27.35 | Diao | ;p |
| 07:27.36 | evl | you don't have to |
| 07:27.38 | Diao | to beat the encounters |
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| 07:27.46 | evl | consumables add a 10% to your performance |
| 07:27.49 | evl | you could pllay 10% better |
| 07:28.03 | evl | or gear up 10% of your raid 10% better |
| 07:28.09 | evl | or get a 10% better raid setup |
| 07:28.12 | Punkie` | omg FISKER_Q; my hero! :o |
| 07:28.22 | Diao | lol |
| 07:28.23 | hosk | if i ever go back to wow, it's to make a completely undetectable bot that will learn the environment and react accordingly |
| 07:28.38 | Diao | i suppose evl |
| 07:28.48 | hosk | goal based agents, hot damn |
| 07:28.55 | evl | hosk: Those are called gold farmers |
| 07:28.56 | Diao | but you know the top guilds all get buffed out the ass with consumables before attempting new stuff ;p |
| 07:29.05 | evl | hosk: And we found chinese to be much easier to program than bots |
| 07:29.14 | hosk | you have to pay the chinese |
| 07:29.27 | evl | Diao: Because it leaves a large margin of error which is needed when nobody has a clue about how an encounter works |
| 07:29.28 | hosk | you don't have to pay a computer! |
| 07:29.50 | evl | Diao: You can simply relax and look a stategy up on WoWWiki in a couple of weeks |
| 07:30.06 | hosk | and i've always wanted to implement something i learned about in AI into an environment with a relatively large state-space |
| 07:30.24 | FISKER_Q | wtfux Punkie` |
| 07:31.25 | evl | hosk: Lisa14 chatbot? |
| 07:31.53 | hosk | naw, like goal based agents, nash equilibria, uh, markov decision processes.... |
| 07:32.02 | hosk | hidden markov models! |
| 07:32.08 | hosk | and other fancy words! |
| 07:33.07 | wobin_ | oh man |
| 07:33.12 | wobin_ | thank god for aptitude |
| 07:33.26 | wobin_ | it makes linux wobinproof |
| 07:33.27 | evl | debian package manager? |
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| 07:33.30 | evl | hirr :D |
| 07:33.48 | FISKER_Q | config.wtf uses unix style linebreaks right_ |
| 07:33.49 | FISKER_Q | ? |
| 07:34.00 | NightHawkTheSane | i wish this channel was wobinproof. >.> er.. hey wobin.. |
| 07:34.15 | evl | FISKER_Q: mine are CRLF |
| 07:34.24 | Dynom | evl: hating 1 element doesn't mean to hate the entire subject |
| 07:34.27 | wobin_ | ha |
| 07:34.29 | FISKER_Q | If only i knew what it meant! |
| 07:34.33 | hosk | how do you guys get around warden, or do you not need to do that because you aren't breaking EULA? |
| 07:34.40 | wobin_ | If it were, the world would be a sadder place |
| 07:34.43 | Dynom | evl: I don't hate WoW, I hate farming and rep-grinding in WoW; tbh: l2r |
| 07:34.51 | wobin_ | (at least in my place =() |
| 07:36.29 | evl | hosk: No reason to break the EULA |
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| 07:36.41 | ckknight | hosk: we don't get around warden, we're not doing anything wrong |
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| 07:37.15 | hosk | i guess nobody feels like being a rebel at 3 in the morning... |
| 07:37.24 | evl | or 9:30 as here |
| 07:37.42 | nymbia | if by 'be a rebel' you mean 'bot up some gold', then probably not |
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| 07:38.00 | NightHawkTheSane | who the hell needs to bot up gold? |
| 07:38.13 | NightHawkTheSane | I mean, it almost literally grows on trees. |
| 07:38.14 | evl | hosk: if you're gonna start botting get A LOT of wow accounts, since you'll be spending one or two a weeek |
| 07:38.19 | evl | Yeah |
| 07:38.25 | evl | I found a bow here the other day, 3000gold |
| 07:38.38 | evl | that plus the chinese man in my basement = $$$ |
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| 07:39.21 | hosk | see now |
| 07:39.43 | hosk | well, my idea needs more refinement |
| 07:39.53 | SunTiger | and tomato sauce |
| 07:40.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Everything needs more tomato sauce |
| 07:40.03 | CIA-11 | 03roartindon * r33159 10Aloft/ (AloftTag.lua AloftTags.rtf Modules/IsGuildMemberData.lua): |
| 07:40.03 | CIA-11 | Aloft |
| 07:40.04 | CIA-11 | - More changes/improvents to aloft tags, with some examples in the .rtf file |
| 07:40.32 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=ballmer@85.24.17.250.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 07:40.41 | Fisker- | fucking faggots! |
| 07:40.51 | *** kick/#wowace [Fisker-!n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com] by ckknight (ckknight) |
| 07:40.53 | evl | Fisker-: Ungdomshuset Blir! |
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| 07:40.57 | Fisker- | :( |
| 07:40.57 | evl | damnit! |
| 07:41.01 | Fisker- | I need to let off some steam! |
| 07:41.07 | ckknight | Fisker-: don't be offensive. |
| 07:41.20 | Fisker- | alright! |
| 07:42.10 | Fisker- | subpar-iq'd ISP had some electricity maintanence and was done after getting me out of 2 raids, and now that i have a raid again tonight of course they'll have more maintanence during the day |
| 07:43.11 | Fisker- | gonna disconnect in a couple of moments anyways so i'll just as well see some penn and teller |
| 07:48.02 | hosk | can't stop this feeling, can't stop this fire |
| 07:48.37 | hosk | oh, i get hysterical, hysteria, oh can you feel it? |
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| 07:58.17 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel * r33160 10Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: performance tweaks |
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| 08:04.51 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r33161 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua: |
| 08:04.51 | CIA-11 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 08:04.51 | CIA-11 | - A couple minor optimizations |
| 08:05.03 | Punkie` | mmm optimization |
| 08:05.33 | nymbia | ow |
| 08:05.55 | Punkie` | im hungry |
| 08:06.00 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, see how you like it? :P |
| 08:06.04 | Punkie` | go optimize me a sandwich :( |
| 08:07.21 | Morghus | nymbia! PT3Bar's pop-up function is a tad silly, it tends to stick for eternity, or atleast until I hover over it again. |
| 08:07.34 | Morghus | Any way to fix that? =) |
| 08:08.56 | nymbia | need to smack the state header around a bit i guess |
| 08:09.04 | nymbia | cuz that's what's controlling it.. |
| 08:09.08 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, pt3bar has pop up buttons now? |
| 08:10.30 | Morghus | Yeah. PT3Bar is <3 |
| 08:11.00 | Punkie` | does it still leave gaps if you have an empty button? |
| 08:11.01 | Morghus | It has everything I wanted AutoBar to have, which is very very little ;) |
| 08:12.17 | ZealotOnAStick | I need a good redneck nickname for the Kentucky Fried Gamers. Anyone have any suggestions for me? |
| 08:12.26 | Morghus | Billy? |
| 08:12.35 | Punkie` | billyjoe duh |
| 08:12.59 | Punkie` | wobin__: what have i been hearing about a new MrPlow?! :o:o:o |
| 08:13.02 | Morghus | Jonah, Joe |
| 08:13.11 | Punkie` | Cleatus |
| 08:13.19 | Morghus | That's the name I was thinking about! |
| 08:14.17 | Morghus | Bwahahaa! |
| 08:14.18 | Morghus | http://www.redneckbabynames.com/male-baby-names |
| 08:14.22 | ZealotOnAStick | I said a GOOD redneck nickname. |
| 08:14.32 | Morghus | It actually exists. |
| 08:14.40 | SunTiger | isn't a redneck name bad by default ? |
| 08:14.41 | Morghus | There is a SITE dedicated to it |
| 08:15.13 | Morghus | Elrod's pretty cool :p |
| 08:15.24 | Morghus | So's Duane ^^ |
| 08:15.42 | Morghus | *stops spamming* |
| 08:16.30 | Punkie` | ZealotOnAStick: what the hell is a good redneck nickname? |
| 08:16.44 | ZealotOnAStick | one I don't immediately hate. |
| 08:16.58 | Punkie` | 'gunnagettheboys' |
| 08:17.26 | Punkie` | 'nascarroolz' |
| 08:18.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. |
| 08:18.25 | ZealotOnAStick | I think I'll go with Patton Lee. |
| 08:18.29 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: my redneck name is southernjesse |
| 08:18.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Named after two great generals. |
| 08:19.04 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 08:19.12 | Morghus | Good morning |
| 08:19.20 | ckknight | morning, [Ammo] |
| 08:19.22 | SunTiger | môgé |
| 08:19.26 | Punkie` | Ammo, you better not be horny again this morning |
| 08:19.30 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 08:19.40 | [Ammo] | I'm in a semipermanent state of horny |
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| 08:21.41 | Zicon | [ammo]: Interesting. Tell us more. |
| 08:21.55 | [Ammo] | ask Punkie`s mom |
| 08:22.19 | nevcairiel | heh the OmniCC flash thingy is great |
| 08:22.29 | abbat_w | yep ;) |
| 08:22.43 | abbat_w | new occ looks nice ;) |
| 08:23.06 | nevcairiel | plus i can update it with my SVN update batch too! |
| 08:23.29 | abbat_w | pff... true users use WAU :) |
| 08:23.41 | nevcairiel | WAU wont update OmniCC |
| 08:23.50 | nevcairiel | and wont merge updates with my local changes |
| 08:23.59 | Morghus | OmniCC updated? :o |
| 08:24.10 | abbat_w | Morghus, yep |
| 08:24.21 | abbat_w | renamed from !OmniCC to OmniCC |
| 08:24.28 | abbat_w | also some new visual features |
| 08:24.40 | Nickenyfiken | I like the new flash thingie |
| 08:24.55 | Nickenyfiken | impossible to miss when CD is off |
| 08:25.16 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: oh is OmniCC on an svn somewhere? |
| 08:25.26 | Morghus | I remember I couldn't use it with Discord, I was so sad, since I'd used it for so long. |
| 08:25.34 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: yea |
| 08:25.42 | [Ammo] | give link :) |
| 08:25.58 | nevcairiel | http://tullamods.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ |
| 08:26.06 | abbat_w | But OmniCC flashes sometimes confuse me |
| 08:26.26 | NightHawkTheSane | they lag me way too much |
| 08:26.49 | abbat_w | If i use healthstone for example, after cooldown expires, omnicc flash empty action with HS and also flash potions (shared cd) |
| 08:26.57 | Morghus | *ponders getting subversion* |
| 08:27.10 | abbat_w | Discord? :) sighs |
| 08:27.17 | Punkie` | SellFish is there too :o |
| 08:27.26 | Morghus | *pokes abbat_w in the eye* ^^ |
| 08:27.33 | nevcairiel | all Tuller mods |
| 08:27.33 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 08:27.43 | abbat_w | btw guys, someone else use Antagonist? |
| 08:28.09 | [Ammo] | ok that's 2 more addons from svn instead of manual download |
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| 08:28.49 | Morghus | abbat_w: Won't get into another discord discussion here :p |
| 08:29.07 | Nickenyfiken | NightHawkTheSane: Ah hmm thats where the lag i have been experiencing is from :-( Didn't realsize it was omnicc |
| 08:29.56 | phantagom | What seems the problem with wowace now? If I update everything is broken, seems to be a ace lib problem? |
| 08:30.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Nickenyfiken: well, it was obvious to me, every time an ability cooled down, my FPS took a big hit |
| 08:31.15 | Morghus | That means OmniCC still has the problem, which means I can't use it :( |
| 08:31.15 | Nickenyfiken | That sucks |
| 08:31.15 | Morghus | My fps ranges from 45 to 15, depending, so dropping to 5 due to cooldowns is sadly out of the question |
| 08:31.18 | FISKER_Q | nymbia the keys |
| 08:31.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Well, i wouldnt say dont use it. I mean, it still works fine without the flashing icon |
| 08:31.19 | FISKER_Q | punch em |
| 08:31.19 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm wonder if it is possible to have that effect without the lag |
| 08:31.20 | Morghus | ( which is what it did before ) |
| 08:31.30 | [Ammo] | you can stil use the 'basic' version |
| 08:31.33 | [Ammo] | if I see correctly |
| 08:31.39 | [Ammo] | which doesn't have the flashes |
| 08:32.20 | Morghus | I'll wait for a full release. Not gonna get into the hassle of getting subversion now. |
| 08:32.33 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm it is not lagging that bad for me right now |
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| 08:33.20 | Nickenyfiken | Oh well 5-6 FPS for a sec or so |
| 08:33.31 | [Ammo] | that's pretty bad |
| 08:33.31 | nevcairiel | I dont have that |
| 08:33.35 | Nickenyfiken | Bad enough |
| 08:33.36 | nevcairiel | and i like the feature |
| 08:33.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Well, when i'm lucky to break 10fps, any kind of hit like that is killer. *shrug* |
| 08:34.12 | Morghus | :( *pats NightHawkTheSane* |
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| 08:35.29 | Morghus | SpamSentry is so nice. Sent 19 reports last night with a few clicks. Now I log on and check my mail, and I find 3 Blizz-mails about it :p |
| 08:36.03 | evl | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=97769971&sid=1 |
| 08:36.16 | evl | OKay so I'm a man pig but that was fucking funny |
| 08:36.28 | evl | Let' |
| 08:36.42 | ckknight | man bear pig |
| 08:36.46 | Nickenyfiken | Blizz mails or gold mails doesnt matter to me, i had to make a trip to the mailbox that i didn't need :-( |
| 08:37.01 | Morghus | lol >< |
| 08:37.16 | Morghus | Nickenyfiken: Exactly ;) |
| 08:37.46 | Morghus | evl: "Dont knock it till you try it." |
| 08:39.17 | abbat-w | Blizzard don't plan to restrict using /y, /s by lvl? |
| 08:39.42 | Morghus | "omg i r get 2 doo no rp ! :(" |
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| 08:40.29 | phantagom | Is there someting know about why wowace mods are broken now if you update? |
| 08:40.32 | Nickenyfiken | hehe reported like 7 players for gold spam and they responded that they will take action to the "player" in singularis :-P |
| 08:40.43 | FISKER_Q | macros indeed |
| 08:40.56 | FISKER_Q | I've just made them automatically respond |
| 08:41.18 | FISKER_Q | So they just say "We really appreciate your help on combatting this spam, rest assured we will take action" and close my ticket |
| 08:41.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Gah, now one of my Uni friends is complaining about Prat / ClearFont fun :P |
| 08:41.29 | Morghus | Nickenyfiken: They've got automated gold-seller replies now. Same one from all 19 :p |
| 08:42.02 | Morghus | Kirkburn|afk: Yeah, a guildie whined about that too, told him he should wait for an updated from either of you. |
| 08:42.08 | Morghus | *update |
| 08:42.13 | Morghus | ( since you know about it ) |
| 08:42.26 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah, atleast they could make a "players" reply version when you report many at the same time hehe :-) |
| 08:42.32 | Morghus | haha |
| 08:42.55 | NightHawkTheSane | its not like it actually matters what plurality they use :P |
| 08:43.14 | Nickenyfiken | Hehe no |
| 08:43.18 | Morghus | Actually, I've sent reports asap on getting the whispers, so I've always sent one and one. |
| 08:43.35 | Morghus | They're pretty fast at sending out their automated replies |
| 08:43.44 | NightHawkTheSane | I usually wait until i'm about to logout to report |
| 08:43.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Kirkburn|afk: when you going to make CF2 pick up on SML registered fonts and use them? |
| 08:44.00 | Nickenyfiken | I remember the first time a reported a gold spammer, i had a long chat with the GM for while about... nothing :-P |
| 08:44.10 | Kirkburn|afk | When someone codes that? |
| 08:44.10 | *** join/#wowace kovi (n=nnscript@wrzb-590cf1cf.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 08:44.23 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm busy with Uni, so people are free to hack away |
| 08:44.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Right now, I /really/ want to sleep, but can't |
| 08:44.46 | [Ammo] | ZealotOnAStick: I thought someone already added registring of CF2 fonts to SML |
| 08:44.51 | [Ammo] | so only the reverse needs to be done? |
| 08:44.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Exactleh! |
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| 08:45.34 | Punkie` | just make a /Fonts/ folder? |
| 08:45.35 | Kirkburn|afk | So the registering thing worked? Glad to hear :) |
| 08:45.47 | ZealotOnAStick | I threw in Roatindon's code to register CF2's default fonts with SML. |
| 08:45.49 | Punkie` | then you have no probs with addons :o |
| 08:45.58 | Kirkburn|afk | I should play at some point and find out when I've finished all this Uni stuff |
| 08:46.06 | ZealotOnAStick | I looked at the font packs, but it didn't appear to be easy and quick and then I sorta forgot about them. |
| 08:46.07 | Kirkburn|afk | (in, like, 2 months) |
| 08:46.19 | ravagernl | omg |
| 08:46.24 | Punkie` | omgomg |
| 08:46.24 | ravagernl | I just got this: http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=04202007104547bf3.jpg |
| 08:46.34 | ZealotOnAStick | What I'd like to see is yes, the opposite - to have CF2 pick up SML registered fonts and automagically add them to its list of fonts. |
| 08:46.56 | Kirkburn|afk | ravagernl, ouch |
| 08:47.15 | Punkie` | just be glad it was caught :) |
| 08:47.21 | ravagernl | What the hell, I really don't know where that comes from |
| 08:47.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah |
| 08:47.35 | evl | are trojans only detected if you run wow through the launcher? |
| 08:47.40 | [Ammo] | ravagernl: stop watching pr0n! |
| 08:47.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Cool. |
| 08:47.45 | Kirkburn|afk | It /can/ be a false positive, but I really would check up on the name |
| 08:47.49 | [Ammo] | you should run wow throgh the launcher |
| 08:47.56 | ZealotOnAStick | That's perhaps the first and only useful thing I've ever seen that scan produce. |
| 08:48.18 | ravagernl | ok, im going to run nod32 |
| 08:48.29 | Stephmw | [Ammo]: any idea what value-add the launcher brings other than guardian? |
| 08:48.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Easy PTR access. |
| 08:48.54 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 08:49.00 | [Ammo] | and well more security |
| 08:49.12 | FISKER_Q | [2007/04/20 10:44:31-794-x1]: AceComm-2.0-33145 (Ace2):475: attempt to concatenate local 'k' (a table value) <-wait what? :o |
| 08:49.13 | Stephmw | I'm asking because I run under Linux ;-) |
| 08:49.14 | [Ammo] | I don't want to lose my account, but I don't visit dodgy sites like ui.worldofwar |
| 08:49.27 | NightHawkTheSane | I think the only time i use the launcher is when the game auto-starts it after a patch |
| 08:49.37 | *** join/#wowace Ominous (i=HydraIRC@81-179-71-33.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 08:49.39 | Punkie` | ui.worldofwar *sighs* |
| 08:49.42 | ckknight | FISKER_Q: ah, dang |
| 08:49.43 | NightHawkTheSane | But i dont really worry about silly keyloggers |
| 08:50.20 | FISKER_Q | lol |
| 08:50.34 | FISKER_Q | just jumped out in the ocean because water wasn't rendered yet |
| 08:50.49 | [Ammo] | we've had a few people hacked in the guild with keyloggers |
| 08:50.54 | [Ammo] | most didn't use the launcher |
| 08:51.01 | [Ammo] | I think I'll just stick with the launcher |
| 08:51.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Ive yet to see any keyloggers for macs, so *shrug* |
| 08:51.21 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 08:51.21 | Dynom | tbh; don't use IE as a browser and you'll be just fine |
| 08:51.21 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33162 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - typo |
| 08:51.34 | FISKER_Q | what was "k" supposed to be? :P |
| 08:51.47 | FISKER_Q | Thought it was something i did cause i always writes k |
| 08:51.52 | Dynom | skill? |
| 08:52.02 | Dynom | I don't remember tbh |
| 08:52.27 | Punkie` | yeah, ravagernl, do you use IE? :P |
| 08:52.37 | ravagernl | firefox with adblock plus |
| 08:52.48 | [Ammo] | I blame pr0n |
| 08:52.52 | Punkie` | yeah, one person in our guild ran that too |
| 08:53.16 | Punkie` | (that got hacked) |
| 08:53.18 | FISKER_Q | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a13cae3d-8ec1-4d84-8620-d82e832391d7&DisplayLang=en <-lol |
| 08:53.19 | Dynom | just watch a bit what you download and use a decent browser, and you'll be fine |
| 08:53.43 | Dynom | if you download a lot of crap then no security system will keep you safe |
| 08:53.44 | ZealotOnAStick | I try not to download anything to my gaming machine . . . most things I download to this (my secondary, older machine) and scan everything before I touch anything . . . but that browser icon keylogger thing had me scared. |
| 08:54.01 | Dynom | All I can say is; PEBKAC |
| 08:54.05 | ZealotOnAStick | even with Firefox with NoScript, a couple of the sites I visited got me worried (like GameCopyWorld). |
| 08:54.21 | FISKER_Q | bah |
| 08:54.49 | FISKER_Q | Doesn't seem Microsoft uploaded an installable version 2007 |
| 08:55.32 | Punkie` | I just use opera, and make my firewall tell me whenever a website wants activex |
| 08:55.55 | Morghus | :( |
| 08:56.08 | ZealotOnAStick | I've tried it on multiple versions, every several months . . . just don't like it. |
| 08:56.13 | Punkie` | its nice |
| 08:56.19 | Punkie` | mmmm, mouse gestures |
| 08:56.36 | Morghus | Going to IE after Opera is like entering the Stone Ages. |
| 08:56.41 | Punkie` | yeah |
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| 08:56.47 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm happy with Firefox. |
| 08:56.58 | Morghus | Going to Firefox after Opera is like the Industrial Age |
| 08:56.59 | ZealotOnAStick | which if I want it to have mouse gestures, can in about 2 minutes. |
| 08:57.03 | Punkie` | i use opera for IRC because mirc crashes when i load it for some reason |
| 08:57.18 | Nickenyfiken | Opera has no addon support :-( |
| 08:57.29 | Punkie` | i dont need addons for opera |
| 08:57.31 | Morghus | I don't need addons :p |
| 08:57.33 | krka | on the other hand, Opera has no addon support :-) |
| 08:57.44 | Kirkburn|afk | So I just found out what Aloft was a few hours ago. Had /no idea/ that was possible |
| 08:57.48 | Morghus | Opera's got everything I need basically. |
| 08:57.55 | Nickenyfiken | Adblock :-/ |
| 08:57.59 | Morghus | Kirkburn|afk: It's hawt ^^ |
| 08:58.06 | ravagernl | Funny enough it is that i use firefox + adblock plus + firewall + antivirus (nod32) |
| 08:58.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Aloft kicks ass. |
| 08:58.12 | Punkie` | it has that Nickenyfiken.. |
| 08:58.16 | FISKER_Q | Yeah |
| 08:58.17 | ZealotOnAStick | I was using Nameplates Modifier before Aloft. |
| 08:58.20 | FISKER_Q | I'll sue him ZealotOnAStick |
| 08:58.22 | Punkie` | right click on any web page |
| 08:58.26 | FISKER_Q | kicked my ass good |
| 08:58.28 | Punkie` | and click block content |
| 08:58.34 | Nickenyfiken | Punkie`: but it sucks? |
| 08:58.40 | Punkie` | works for me? |
| 08:58.46 | [Ammo] | opera is a nightmare to develop anything with dhtml for |
| 08:58.52 | [Ammo] | hence we stopped supporting it |
| 08:59.02 | Punkie` | l2p |
| 08:59.15 | ZealotOnAStick | was really happy to see Aloft. And Roatindon keeps adding new stuff. |
| 09:00.06 | Nickenyfiken | well well |
| 09:00.17 | ZealotOnAStick | s/Roatindon/Roartindon/ |
| 09:00.18 | Nickenyfiken | Since when has it been possible to do such addons? |
| 09:00.33 | ZealotOnAStick | *shrug* |
| 09:00.37 | Nickenyfiken | I am so 100% sure it was not possible before |
| 09:00.41 | ZealotOnAStick | At least 2.0ish . . . |
| 09:00.59 | Punkie` | it was not possible before 2.0 |
| 09:01.09 | ZealotOnAStick | Gello I think figured out basically how. I don't know if it just wasn't possible before, or if nobody just figured it out before. |
| 09:01.14 | ZealotOnAStick | either possible. |
| 09:01.22 | Roartindon | I think it has been possible for a long time |
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| 09:01.25 | Morghus | Gello <3 |
| 09:01.27 | Roartindon | Just that no one figured out how to do it |
| 09:01.37 | Punkie` | I didn't think the API was there |
| 09:01.39 | ZealotOnAStick | it going in with 2.0 would make a certain amount of sense, with blizzard adding the cast bars to nameplates. |
| 09:01.46 | Roartindon | there is no API there Punkie` |
| 09:01.51 | Punkie` | what! |
| 09:01.59 | Roartindon | There's no nameplates API |
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| 09:02.10 | ZealotOnAStick | It's just . . . trickery with iterating through all the worldframes, isn't it? |
| 09:02.14 | ZealotOnAStick | really clever trickery. |
| 09:02.20 | Roartindon | Iterate the world frames, grab what you can |
| 09:02.30 | Punkie` | ah ok |
| 09:02.43 | Morghus | They're adding name-plates support in next patch? |
| 09:02.49 | Morghus | Or is it just the bars? |
| 09:02.53 | Roartindon | Then the combination of the little information you get (color of healthbar, healthbar values, level text and name text), extrapolating *everything* else |
| 09:03.08 | Roartindon | Morghus: Don't think they're adding anything nameplate wise |
| 09:03.35 | Punkie` | Roartindon: By the way, I didn't get any cast bar frame last night (blizz one) |
| 09:03.44 | Roartindon | Punkie`: Cool, I squished it good |
| 09:03.50 | Punkie` | but! |
| 09:03.59 | Punkie` | i did get one for the nameplate itself, but that was only once |
| 09:04.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Yay! New Bleach! |
| 09:04.15 | ZealotOnAStick | and *sigh* new Bleach OP. |
| 09:04.31 | Roartindon | it should disappear quickly? when it first captures a new nameplate, Aloft only scans 4 times a second.... |
| 09:04.43 | ZealotOnAStick | When I first saw it on 121, the first part of it in sepia with kon-singing, I was hoping it was a Dattebayo troll. |
| 09:05.35 | ZealotOnAStick | zomg. |
| 09:05.37 | Punkie` | Roartindon: yeah, it's like a fraction of a second |
| 09:05.43 | Punkie` | but i still saw it! |
| 09:05.48 | Morghus | ZealotOnAStick: OP? |
| 09:05.55 | ZealotOnAStick | "Statistically, there is a 33% chance that DB will have one less download due to the Vtech Massacre." |
| 09:06.07 | Roartindon | Heh, I can't do anything - until blizzard provides a nameplate API, the first time a nameplate is captured, you'll see it :( |
| 09:06.20 | Roartindon | Once it's captured, the same frames are reused over and over again |
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| 09:06.45 | Roartindon | It's only when new ones are created because more units are visible than nameplates existed for before.. blizz silently creates new ones then |
| 09:06.50 | Morghus | ( I stopped watching anime, just manga now :p ) |
| 09:06.50 | Roartindon | then it takes Aloft a moment to scan them |
| 09:06.58 | Roartindon | and to adapt/adopt them |
| 09:07.17 | FryGuy | isn't the kon-singing the new intro? |
| 09:07.23 | sbu | morning |
| 09:07.25 | FryGuy | it's been like that since 120 |
| 09:07.29 | ZealotOnAStick | OP - Opening music/sequence. |
| 09:07.45 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: I added some significantly more powerful expressions with the AloftTag system too |
| 09:07.47 | Dynom | su - |
| 09:07.51 | FryGuy | er 121 i guess |
| 09:07.52 | Dynom | wrong |
| 09:08.05 | FryGuy | i like the one in 120 |
| 09:08.06 | Morghus | ZealotOnAStick: Ah, of course. Thanks. I'll check it out |
| 09:08.08 | Roartindon | The .rtf there has a very brief explanation and examples of how to create them |
| 09:08.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Aloft does, I suspect, way more than I want/need it to do, and probably has for most of the week. |
| 09:08.11 | ravagernl | bah maybe I should just reinstall my laptop |
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| 09:08.36 | FryGuy | although i like the 121 ending credits >>>> than 120 |
| 09:08.42 | ZealotOnAStick | I set the texture to Litestep, chance the font, move the name text centered with a vertical offset of 10, and center the health in the bar. |
| 09:08.47 | sbu | nymbia: wtb Gladiator_(EU|US)* -> data.lua copy function :/ |
| 09:08.52 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: Disable whatever you don't want; it's all written to not occupy cpu or store data if the options don't require it :) |
| 09:09.01 | FryGuy | of course, i like ska, and hate ballads |
| 09:09.02 | FryGuy | so ya |
| 09:09.05 | ZealotOnAStick | I should probably find the option to do raw health/% and switch to that. |
| 09:09.21 | Roartindon | Just set it to full, then modify the tag |
| 09:09.22 | nymbia | sbu: why wouldnt the data be in data.lua in the first place? |
| 09:09.22 | ZealotOnAStick | Roartindon: yeah, I know, I remember from previous convo, and I do appreciate that. |
| 09:09.57 | Roartindon | go health text -> mode -> full. Then do Health Text -> advanced -> format.. and delete the middle bit that shows full health :) |
| 09:10.03 | sbu | nymbia: because i ran multiple mining instances |
| 09:10.12 | ZealotOnAStick | That's "full" do by default? |
| 09:10.16 | ZealotOnAStick | err, What's |
| 09:10.17 | Roartindon | Maybe I'll add that in as a default selection |
| 09:10.21 | Roartindon | Full does Current / max (%) |
| 09:10.28 | ravagernl | nymbia: WTB pitbull aura option to set the max width or height of the aura rows/columns |
| 09:10.35 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. |
| 09:10.35 | Roartindon | Soundsl ike you just want Current (%) |
| 09:10.40 | Punkie` | Roartindon: Is the recently damaged icon the 2 crossed swords btw? |
| 09:10.46 | Roartindon | Punkie`: yeah |
| 09:10.52 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah, I suspect so. |
| 09:11.12 | ZealotOnAStick | I'll try Full and see if I like it or not. |
| 09:11.26 | ZealotOnAStick | but for raid mobs, I suspect that'd get cramped in a hurry. |
| 09:11.54 | Roartindon | [health:short][health:" ("][healthPercent:percent][health:")"] |
| 09:12.25 | Roartindon | or if you don't care about the brackets at all, just [health:short] [healthPercent:percent] |
| 09:12.44 | sbu | nymbia: redundant data sucks :/ |
| 09:13.03 | ckknight | health:" ("? |
| 09:13.18 | Roartindon | ckknight: if there is health information, display the text " (" |
| 09:13.26 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:13.26 | ckknight | okay |
| 09:13.57 | Roartindon | You'll love the health tag I use: |
| 09:13.58 | Roartindon | [isNotFriendly:health:short][isNotMaxHealth:healthPercent:hideKnownHealth:percent] |
| 09:13.58 | Roartindon | ["ff8080":hexColor][isFriendly:healthDeficit:negate:hideZero] |
| 09:14.06 | sbu | nymbia: i think the easiest (and prop. best solution) to this is removing player data from data.lua - just keeping resumedata stuff (and read from subdirectories instead) |
| 09:15.52 | nymbia | sbu: yeah |
| 09:16.46 | Roartindon | health:" (" compiles to: aloftData.health and " (" |
| 09:16.56 | Roartindon | So it's reasonably efficient for it to build |
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| 09:20.24 | ckknight | Roartindon: I'm thinking about adding parameters to the DogTag tags |
| 09:20.46 | ckknight | e.g. [percenthp:hide(100)] |
| 09:21.01 | Roartindon | Yeah, I can see how that'd be useful :) |
| 09:21.46 | Roartindon | btw.. hidemaxhp in dogtag can probably be simplified... |
| 09:21.56 | Roartindon | Not sure the whole MobHealth3 thing is required |
| 09:22.16 | ckknight | ah, it is |
| 09:22.22 | Roartindon | if UnitHealthMax(unit) == UnitHealth(unit).. then it's probably unnecssary to convert it to real HP values to compare :) |
| 09:22.34 | ckknight | because you do [curhp:hidemaxhp] |
| 09:22.50 | ckknight | actually, lemme check what it says |
| 09:22.56 | Roartindon | I agree, you want the tag |
| 09:23.06 | Roartindon | But I think the implementation for it does stuff you don't need to check |
| 09:23.19 | [Ammo] | I think it can be as roartindon says |
| 09:23.37 | ckknight | ah, you're right, Roartindon |
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| 09:40.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Another Clique update. Maybe it's time I switch to Click2Cast. |
| 09:40.39 | phantagom | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:40.59 | NightHawkTheSane | ZealotOnAStick: i don't follow. why would clique updating mean switching to click2cast? |
| 09:41.43 | ZealotOnAStick | It's getting to be a pain in the ass to do it manually. I've just let it be for a couple of months on the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality. |
| 09:42.15 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh |
| 09:42.33 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* i dont mind updating it by hand |
| 09:44.08 | ZealotOnAStick | I should also probably check and see if -anything- else I have uses Dongle anymore. I've rid myself of Nameplates Modifier since Aloft is around (and so much better) . . . |
| 09:46.00 | sbu | cloque? :P |
| 09:46.08 | sbu | ah ok - switch to click2cast ;p |
| 09:46.13 | sbu | reading ftw |
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| 09:46.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Yep, looks like Clique is the only thing I have using Dongle anymore. I'll have to look at Click2Cast and see how big it is. |
| 09:47.04 | sbu | differences clique <> click2case? |
| 09:47.25 | ZealotOnAStick | slightly different approaches to do the same thing, as far as I know. |
| 09:47.26 | sbu | (aka: what features are gone if i decide to switch? :p) |
| 09:47.42 | ZealotOnAStick | I really make very minimal use of click-casting. |
| 09:47.55 | sbu | me to, dispell + decure ;o |
| 09:47.56 | sbu | 2 mouse buttons |
| 09:48.00 | ZealotOnAStick | have like 3 binds on my druid, 2 on my lock. |
| 09:48.33 | sbu | ah and dispell + smite (harmful), for purging and surge of light proc ;) |
| 09:49.06 | Dynom | Fri Apr 20 11:49:06 CEST 2007 |
| 09:49.10 | Dynom | 1177062550 |
| 09:49.12 | ZealotOnAStick | If I were a raiding priest, it might be a bit different. |
| 09:49.22 | sbu | hmm why? ;o |
| 09:49.25 | ZealotOnAStick | but then I'd probably hate myself. |
| 09:49.32 | sbu | dont have any more mouse buttons ;p |
| 09:49.45 | sbu | and keyboard + mouse + click casting -> teh suck |
| 09:50.39 | Dynom | redudant setupus ftw |
| 09:50.58 | sbu | hm? :) |
| 09:51.09 | sbu | if you have any nice priest setup - tell me ;p |
| 09:51.28 | Dynom | no I don't, but having multiple interfaces for the same is nice imo |
| 09:51.35 | Dynom | then you can switch per encounter w/o config changes |
| 09:51.51 | Dynom | on some encounters click-casting can be nice, on others it can be teh suck |
| 09:52.46 | Dynom | Whyyyy em see eyeeeeee |
| 09:55.06 | Dynom | I wonder how they got this sooo nicely synced |
| 09:55.06 | Dynom | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZNvwyZK7tPE |
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| 09:56.00 | Pneu | Dynom: that flute trinket that makes everyone dance perhaps |
| 09:56.05 | ZealotOnAStick | You seen the Haloid video? |
| 09:56.10 | Dynom | hmm |
| 09:56.19 | Dynom | but then the dances can be random |
| 09:56.26 | Dynom | ZealotOnAStick: no don't think so |
| 09:56.52 | ZealotOnAStick | it's linked on yesterday's Penny Arcade. |
| 09:56.58 | ZealotOnAStick | technically, it's damned impressive. |
| 09:57.10 | ZealotOnAStick | though it is some sick gamer fanboy fap-fantasy. |
| 09:58.02 | Dynom | what site would that be ? |
| 09:58.05 | Dynom | penny-arcade.com ? |
| 09:58.33 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 how does that question ever come up, anyway... "What site is penny arcade" *boggles* |
| 09:59.00 | Dynom | don't know that website |
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| 10:07.37 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: so i optimzed bt3 a bit, the OnUpdate usage is way less now, but it still has like 2s cpu time on load due to states stuff .. but who cares about load usage... :D |
| 10:07.48 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: :P |
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| 10:08.01 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: people will be whining when they see the performancefu numbers ;) |
| 10:08.12 | nevcairiel | i guess |
| 10:08.15 | SunTiger | users should be shot. |
| 10:08.23 | SunTiger | who needs them anyway |
| 10:08.33 | nevcairiel | but then, i need to figure out how to fully use the new state stack |
| 10:08.45 | nevcairiel | that would remove alot of code from my state setup |
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| 10:09.16 | nevcairiel | but that Expo tool is great |
| 10:09.25 | vhaarr | Expo made me angry. |
| 10:09.49 | nevcairiel | Why? because you didnt like the numbers ? :D |
| 10:10.14 | vhaarr | 1. The options were *bad*, and what to use of "General", "Addon" and "Library" + the 4th option when you wanted something was not obvious, and entering a global table didn't work in *any* of them. |
| 10:10.21 | vhaarr | 2. It threw errors in my face. |
| 10:10.34 | vhaarr | 3. The Tablet interface needs *work*. |
| 10:10.34 | nevcairiel | yeah, i fixed the profile class option to work for me :D |
| 10:10.53 | vhaarr | so I'll give jjsheets a week to fix it before I try again |
| 10:11.02 | nevcairiel | profile addon works good |
| 10:11.08 | vhaarr | although, last time I waited for something from him, he just made it 100 times worse |
| 10:11.09 | nevcairiel | profile class does too after i fixed it locally |
| 10:11.22 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: None of the options did anything for me. |
| 10:11.24 | vhaarr | Nothing happened. |
| 10:11.30 | vhaarr | (yes, profiling was enabled) |
| 10:11.50 | Dynom | http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=57998 |
| 10:11.51 | vhaarr | so when I started clicking around like a maniac, #2 ensued |
| 10:11.57 | vhaarr | and then #3 annoyed me |
| 10:12.01 | vhaarr | so I deleted it. |
| 10:12.07 | nevcairiel | I had to look at the source to figure out how it works tho. |
| 10:12.34 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I just want a box where I can input an expression and/or a global. I don't think that's too much to ask. |
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| 10:12.50 | nevcairiel | true |
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| 10:13.05 | vhaarr | sorry, that's not true |
| 10:13.09 | vhaarr | I want 1-3 to be fixed. |
| 10:13.18 | vhaarr | AND be able to input expressions and globals. |
| 10:13.23 | vhaarr | then it would be usable. |
| 10:15.03 | nevcairiel | it still helped me alot with identifying issues |
| 10:15.12 | vhaarr | debugfu didn't work? |
| 10:15.29 | FISKER_Q | haaaaai vhaarr |
| 10:15.31 | nevcairiel | didnt try it :P |
| 10:15.42 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: ^^ |
| 10:16.50 | ckknight | hay guise |
| 10:16.53 | ravagernl | hah I fixed my computer |
| 10:17.01 | ravagernl | Removed a keylogger |
| 10:17.06 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.18 | FISKER_Q | tsk ravagernl |
| 10:17.21 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=chatzill@bw1.svend-es.dk) |
| 10:17.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Did you catch that back door object I sent you? |
| 10:17.29 | FISKER_Q | can i announce that you fail_ |
| 10:17.29 | FISKER_Q | ? |
| 10:18.16 | ravagernl | fail in what |
| 10:18.27 | ZealotOnAStick | That. |
| 10:18.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Anyone seen Blood+ ? |
| 10:20.11 | nevcairiel | Hm, wonder if i can do 2 transitions in one state expression |
| 10:21.01 | nevcairiel | like i want to push(), change state, swap() |
| 10:22.16 | Punkie` | ravagernl: I hope you changed your password for like, everything as well. |
| 10:26.16 | Punkie` | can someone make my boots drop from moroes, my shoulders drop from the chest, and my malchie drop from the prince next reset? :( |
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| 10:27.05 | xlvii | punkie`, rogue? |
| 10:27.20 | Punkie` | ofc |
| 10:27.38 | xlvii | mm.. |
| 10:27.43 | xlvii | being a rogue makes me cry |
| 10:27.47 | xlvii | i can't find a stupid raiding guild |
| 10:27.48 | xlvii | -.- |
| 10:27.58 | xlvii | yet i can sustain just under 600 dps. |
| 10:28.02 | ZealotOnAStick | euro or us? |
| 10:28.07 | xlvii | us |
| 10:28.11 | wobin_ | My guild is looking for rogues =) |
| 10:28.19 | NightHawkTheSane | xlvii: yeah, i know how you feel. |
| 10:28.21 | xlvii | probably a bad time zone. |
| 10:28.22 | xlvii | >_> |
| 10:28.24 | NightHawkTheSane | course, i'm not a rogue |
| 10:28.28 | nevcairiel | mine is looking too |
| 10:28.28 | ZealotOnAStick | what time zone and kind of schedule can you manage? |
| 10:28.31 | xlvii | wobin_, wait, you're australian right? |
| 10:28.34 | wobin_ | yeah =) |
| 10:28.36 | ZealotOnAStick | We're looking for 1 good rogue in Warfare. |
| 10:28.37 | xlvii | GMT +10, every night. |
| 10:28.43 | Punkie` | my guild needs a rogue |
| 10:28.51 | ZealotOnAStick | Tell in terms relative to US Central, xlvii. |
| 10:28.57 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 10:29.01 | wobin_ | I'm actually not sure about requirements |
| 10:29.03 | xlvii | uhm.. |
| 10:29.13 | wobin_ | But Oceanic Raiders is a good group to work with |
| 10:29.15 | xlvii | i'm too tired to do that. |
| 10:29.22 | NightHawkTheSane | US Central is GMT+6, for reference |
| 10:29.31 | ZealotOnAStick | We raid 7-11 US Central Sunday-Thursday, except Sunday start at 6. |
| 10:29.38 | NightHawkTheSane | er, -6 i mean |
| 10:29.52 | xlvii | so uh. |
| 10:29.53 | wobin_ | have a look at http://ocr.pgpl.net |
| 10:29.53 | ZealotOnAStick | You're . . . What the hell's +10? |
| 10:29.59 | xlvii | i can't maintain those times. |
| 10:30.01 | wobin_ | feh |
| 10:30.02 | NightHawkTheSane | New Zealand? |
| 10:30.02 | xlvii | brisbane, australia. |
| 10:30.07 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, close |
| 10:30.09 | ZealotOnAStick | Ah. |
| 10:30.11 | wobin_ | If you're not going to go by GMT, it's not very helpful =P |
| 10:30.13 | xlvii | wobin_, horde? |
| 10:30.19 | NightHawkTheSane | wobin_: agreed |
| 10:30.24 | wobin_ | Alas not |
| 10:30.27 | wobin_ | Alliance |
| 10:30.33 | xlvii | gah. |
| 10:30.34 | xlvii | :P |
| 10:30.36 | xlvii | i'm horde. |
| 10:30.39 | xlvii | what server? |
| 10:30.40 | ZealotOnAStick | We're horde. |
| 10:30.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Too bad you can't manage the schedule. |
| 10:31.28 | ZealotOnAStick | One of our Prot Warriors was Aussie. Well, still is, just had to step down to social due to impending baby. |
| 10:31.42 | wobin_ | man |
| 10:31.46 | wobin_ | impending baby |
| 10:32.11 | Stephmw | what kind of excuse is that? strap the babe on and play |
| 10:32.22 | xlvii | wobin_, what server? |
| 10:32.28 | NightHawkTheSane | psh, unless he's actually having the kid, thats no excuse! |
| 10:32.33 | wobin_ | Argent Dawn |
| 10:39.36 | wobin_ | Wha? |
| 10:39.36 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel * r33166 10/branches/Bartender3/ (. 2.1/): Bartender3: Creating Branch Folder |
| 10:39.46 | Punkie` | where is mrplow++ :( |
| 10:39.53 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33167 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 10:39.53 | CIA-11 | DogTag-1.0 - tags can now take arguments, e.g. [missinghp:hide(0)] will hide missinghp if its value is 0. |
| 10:39.53 | CIA-11 | - added modifier hide (which takes an argument) |
| 10:39.53 | CIA-11 | - replaced modifier hidezero with alias hide(0) |
| 10:39.53 | CIA-11 | - tags and modifiers can now be fed in case-insensitive. |
| 10:39.56 | wobin_ | I only just got connected =\ |
| 10:40.03 | Punkie` | :D |
| 10:40.05 | wobin_ | I'm upgrading to 7.04 |
| 10:40.24 | ZealotOnAStick | 7.04 of what? |
| 10:40.52 | ckknight | Ubuntu |
| 10:40.55 | wobin_ | aye |
| 10:41.06 | ckknight | get with the times, ZealotOnAStick |
| 10:41.17 | clad|sleep | ZealotOnAStick: You do realize that updates to clique mean bugfixes having nothing to do with Dongle? |
| 10:41.21 | nevcairiel | heh CIA-11 ommited my actual branching |
| 10:41.49 | clad|sleep | I mean you're welcome to hate on as much as you want, but *shrug* |
| 10:42.14 | clad|sleep | for someone in the ace community to stop using a mod because its updated too often, seems.. hypocritical |
| 10:42.15 | evl | uh, I just logged in and no ace addons work :) |
| 10:42.19 | ZealotOnAStick | clad|sleep: Yes. and? I'm not hating on anything. Most of the bug fixes probably are nothing that even affected me. |
| 10:42.36 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel 072.1 * r33168 10Bartender3/Bartender3/: Bartender3: branching for 2.1 state stuff |
| 10:42.38 | clad|sleep | then why are you ridding yourself of the addon, because its been updated too much? |
| 10:42.45 | clad|sleep | or are you ridding yourself of it because it uses Dongle? |
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| 10:42.54 | Punkie` | clad|sleep: the only thing that frustrates me with dongle is the namechange all the time, as some mods are just not updated to support it |
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| 10:43.05 | FISKER_Q | wobin_ client or server? |
| 10:43.10 | FISKER_Q | btw awesomeness ckknight |
| 10:43.12 | clad|sleep | thats has happened TWICE in the history of Dongle |
| 10:43.22 | clad|sleep | once when we moved from Alpha to Beta, and one from Beta to Release |
| 10:43.24 | FISKER_Q | Btw clad|sleep |
| 10:43.25 | ZealotOnAStick | I've not done anything yet. I started to wonder if anything else I had used Dongle. Nothing does. So I'm going to -look- at C2C like I said earlier, and see how big it is. |
| 10:43.33 | FISKER_Q | Unsure if this is pitbull or clique related |
| 10:43.50 | clad|sleep | ZealotOnAStick: Okay, like I said, you're statements seemed to say otherwise *shrug* |
| 10:43.50 | Punkie` | btw, i'm not knocking dongle :P |
| 10:43.51 | wobin_ | client, Fisker |
| 10:43.53 | clad|sleep | Just trying to understand |
| 10:43.54 | FISKER_Q | But i want to make Clique ignore my Pitbull playerframe and open up the blizzard player menu |
| 10:44.21 | FISKER_Q | So i unselect the pitbull playerframe in the frame editor, but when i rightclick my pitbull it shows the same menu as used with ctrl+rightclick |
| 10:44.25 | abbat-w | hmm... guys, who are maintain RatingBuster? |
| 10:44.29 | ZealotOnAStick | I use precious few mods that aren't updateable via WAU, and the majority of those aren't updated very often. |
| 10:44.31 | FISKER_Q | Rightclick = Player menu, ctrl+rightclick = pitbull menu |
| 10:44.38 | evl | abbat-w: look at the .toc? |
| 10:44.46 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm just cranky, and I got annoyed at Clique being updated like 5 times recently. |
| 10:44.50 | clad|sleep | ZealotOnAStick: ah, thats makes more sense |
| 10:44.56 | clad|sleep | heheh well damn users kept finding obscure bugs |
| 10:44.58 | abbat-w | evl, downloading now ;) |
| 10:45.01 | Hjalte | ZealotOnAStick, tried Wow UI Updater? |
| 10:45.05 | clad|sleep | or things that broke due to other things |
| 10:45.11 | abbat-w | evl, i just want to ask some questions about crit/hit |
| 10:45.30 | Punkie` | clad|sleep: what on earth was the problem with lightheaded that caused people's machines to hang? |
| 10:45.41 | Punkie` | out of interest.. :) |
| 10:45.56 | abbat-w | ~seen whitetooth |
| 10:46.27 | purl | whitetooth <n=Whitetoo@59-127-64-40.HINET-IP.hinet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17d 32m 18s ago, saying: 'I don't know, I logged in using the 0.0.10 client'. |
| 10:46.27 | Silviu- | [13:41:54] <F'CIA-11> nevcairiel * r33166 /branches/Bartender3/ (. 2.1/): Bartender3: Creating Branch Folder |
| 10:46.27 | clad|sleep | Punkie`: an infinite loop due to alpha code and a hook |
| 10:46.27 | Silviu- | nevcairiel it did not :) |
| 10:46.27 | clad|sleep | that was not explicitly reproducable :P |
| 10:46.31 | clad|sleep | ptoof of concept code, and all =) |
| 10:46.31 | Punkie` | ah ok, naughty |
| 10:46.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Hjalte: no. Seems like a nice thing. Not really interested. I keep an eye out for . . . let's see, Bongos, OmniCC, ShardAce, DoTimer. |
| 10:46.59 | clad|sleep | i wrote LH in an airport, and on my plane =) |
| 10:47.05 | Hjalte | ZealotOnAStick, I like it a lot at least :) http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 10:47.06 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 10:47.23 | Punkie` | I guess there's an SVN I can just pull from now? |
| 10:47.26 | ZealotOnAStick | KTM is only on Curse . . . and half the time I end up having to get "beta" code and poke some of my custom mods to it. |
| 10:47.42 | Hjalte | It supports getting the beta version of mods |
| 10:47.47 | Punkie` | *checks googlecode* |
| 10:48.01 | ZealotOnAStick | though I consider KTM to be beta regardless of it's release tagging anyway. |
| 10:48.32 | [Ammo] | everytime someone uses KTM god kills a kitten |
| 10:48.36 | clad|sleep | Punkie`: for what? |
| 10:48.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Hjalte - it's not something I'd want auto-updated for me anyway. |
| 10:48.51 | Punkie` | lightheaded of course :> |
| 10:49.19 | Pneu | does WUU leave any working copies in your addon directory alone (with .svn inside them) |
| 10:49.22 | clad|sleep | yeah, all my addons are available via svn |
| 10:49.54 | Punkie` | yes, but this is the tiny prob i am talking about :S |
| 10:50.08 | Punkie` | LH is sitting at Dongle-Beta0 |
| 10:50.11 | Hjalte | Not sure about that Pneu |
| 10:50.42 | Fisker- | omg clad|sleep input ;( |
| 10:51.02 | ZealotOnAStick | It's just a wondering what size C2C's code is minus the ace libaries that I've almost certainly already got loaded for other stuff, and whether or not switching would be less than Dongle's 35k + Clique's code. |
| 10:51.08 | clad|sleep | Punkie`: on the svn? |
| 10:51.12 | Punkie` | yes |
| 10:51.19 | wobin_ | What's Lightheaded? |
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| 10:51.35 | Punkie` | It's a database of wowhead comments |
| 10:51.36 | clad|sleep | ZealotOnAStick: understood.. the bulk of clique's code is not executed until you load the config gui |
| 10:51.37 | ZealotOnAStick | and whether or not the differences in the interface will make me care or not. |
| 10:51.38 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: Clique is technically more featureful, but Click2Cast does everything I need |
| 10:51.39 | clad|sleep | which does make a difference |
| 10:51.50 | Punkie` | and attachest itself to the side of your questpane when you select a quest |
| 10:52.04 | clad|sleep | Punkie`: LH trunk is Dongle-1.0, not sure what you're seeing |
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| 10:53.43 | Punkie` | clad|sleep: http://wow-lightheaded.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/Huffman.lua |
| 10:53.53 | Punkie` | local major = "DongleStub-Beta0" |
| 10:53.53 | clad|sleep | ack |
| 10:54.04 | clad|sleep | huffman's an older library |
| 10:54.06 | clad|sleep | lemme spank that quick |
| 10:54.08 | clad|sleep | and i'll re-upload |
| 10:54.09 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm similarly annoyed with DoTimer. Ashleya's "libraries" and so forth bugs me, as I think it could be done better using stuff already out there, and I think it's a bit wasteful to have them there for just 1 addon. |
| 10:54.14 | Punkie` | ok, thanks :) |
| 10:54.16 | clad|sleep | just handles the compression |
| 10:54.22 | clad|sleep | ZealotOnAStick: they're nasty at times, to say the least |
| 10:54.23 | ZealotOnAStick | But nothing else I've found work as well as DoTimer for what I want, so I bear it. |
| 10:54.49 | clad|sleep | hehe wait for 2.1 =) |
| 10:54.55 | clad|sleep | the code is like 2 lines :P |
| 10:55.16 | evl | gg, google showing a 1 bn $ profit in Q1 |
| 10:55.30 | evl | one fucking billion in the first quarter |
| 10:55.31 | CIA-11 | 03borlox * r33169 10Privacy2/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:55.31 | CIA-11 | Privacy2: Initial commit |
| 10:55.31 | CIA-11 | - Filters and blocks unwanted whispers. |
| 10:56.18 | Fisker- | clad|sleep ! |
| 10:56.29 | ZealotOnAStick | *ponder* |
| 10:56.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Doesn't ShutUp do that, pretty much? |
| 10:56.54 | clad|sleep | Punkie`: commited, but it really shouldn'thave made a difference |
| 10:57.03 | clad|sleep | Fisker-: ? |
| 10:57.29 | Fisker- | Had any idea if my problem was related to clique or pitbull? |
| 10:58.22 | Fisker- | I want to assign clique a rightclicking for decursing(except for on playerframe where i want the blizzard menu), without clique rightclick shows the blizzard player menu, and ctrl+rightclick shows pitbull, with clique and ignoring the playerframe rightclick shows pitbull |
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| 10:59.34 | clad|sleep | Fisker-: have you gone to the "Options" window to exclude the pitbull player frame from Clique-capability? |
| 10:59.44 | clad|sleep | if its not named, then you can't.. so you'd have to talk to ckknight |
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| 10:59.58 | Fisker- | I did yeah |
| 11:00.00 | clad|sleep | sorry didn't mean to ignore you, just rather tired. |
| 11:00.07 | Fisker- | no problem |
| 11:00.19 | clad|sleep | Fisker-: So even after blacklisting it, the menu still won't open? |
| 11:00.22 | ckknight | clad|sleep: it has a name |
| 11:00.28 | clad|sleep | ckknight: i thought it would |
| 11:00.35 | Fisker- | Not blizzard menu, but the pitbull menu |
| 11:00.41 | ckknight | granted, it's be PitBullUnitFrame1 |
| 11:00.45 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 11:00.48 | clad|sleep | oh, well Clique will do nothing with it, if you have it on the blacklist |
| 11:00.56 | clad|sleep | at all, actually |
| 11:01.03 | Fisker- | ckknight made it so that right click = player menu, ctrl+rightclick = pitbullmenu |
| 11:01.09 | Fisker- | ok :o |
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| 11:01.49 | ckknight | relevant lines: |
| 11:01.50 | clad|sleep | ckknight: are you using attributes the open the menu, i assume? |
| 11:01.55 | ckknight | frame:SetAttribute("type2", "menu") |
| 11:01.55 | ckknight | frame:SetAttribute("*type2", "custom_menu") |
| 11:02.06 | clad|sleep | yep |
| 11:02.09 | clad|sleep | should absolutely work then |
| 11:02.13 | clad|sleep | if its blacklisted |
| 11:02.41 | clad|sleep | if self.profile.blacklist[name] then |
| 11:02.41 | clad|sleep | rawset(self.ccframes, frame, false) |
| 11:02.41 | clad|sleep | return |
| 11:03.03 | ckknight | clad|sleep: and I register with ClickCastFrames after I set those attributes |
| 11:03.19 | clad|sleep | aye, timing shouldn't matter |
| 11:03.32 | clad|sleep | Fisker-: can you submit a google code issue report, and I'll take a look at it this weekend |
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| 11:03.43 | clad|sleep | it'll give me an excuse to download Pitbull and waste some time :P |
| 11:03.46 | Fisker- | Yeah link me |
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| 11:03.48 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 11:03.57 | clad|sleep | code.google.com/p/wow-clique/issues/list |
| 11:04.01 | Fisker- | thanks |
| 11:04.22 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel 072.1 * r33170 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_BarStates.lua: Bartender3(2.1): now using the state stack ( did i mention that its amazing? ) |
| 11:04.42 | Fisker- | i knew it though |
| 11:04.45 | Fisker- | Doesn't happen anymore :P |
| 11:04.57 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33171 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add color(arg) tag and modifier. Make all flat color tags/modifiers like white, green, blue aliases of color(arg). |
| 11:04.58 | nevcairiel | millions of states, now compressed in three stack lines |
| 11:04.59 | Fisker- | Each time i actually find a bug it's resolved when i actually ask the author about it :/ |
| 11:05.01 | nevcairiel | thats so great :D |
| 11:05.16 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: big performance boost? |
| 11:05.38 | Fisker- | I think some madness would be in place |
| 11:05.43 | wobin_ | stack state? |
| 11:05.47 | wobin_ | sob |
| 11:05.48 | clad|sleep | Fisker-: hehehe |
| 11:05.50 | Punkie` | madness? |
| 11:05.54 | clad|sleep | nevcairiel: they're lots of fun |
| 11:05.58 | wobin_ | This is madness? |
| 11:06.13 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 11:06.15 | ckknight | This is Sparta! |
| 11:06.20 | Funkeh` | Punkie`: guess what |
| 11:06.23 | clad|sleep | I am Spartacus! |
| 11:06.36 | nevcairiel | once i figured out i can do something like 11-16: swap() 2 swap(); |
| 11:06.40 | nevcairiel | to actually edit the stack |
| 11:06.43 | nevcairiel | its great :D |
| 11:06.55 | Punkie` | Funkeh`: our names both have 'unk' in them?! |
| 11:07.08 | Funkeh` | omg! |
| 11:07.18 | ckknight | omg, me too! |
| 11:07.29 | Punkie` | omgomgomg |
| 11:07.34 | Chompers | Funkeh` Punkie works |
| 11:07.43 | ckknight | clearly, you two should form a band. |
| 11:07.44 | Chompers | Punkie` Funkeh` doesnt |
| 11:07.58 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 11:08.11 | Funkeh` | lets make a song for ckk's 3rd episode of 'at home with ckknight' |
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| 11:08.27 | ckknight | I have 4 episodes already, lamer |
| 11:08.29 | Funkeh` | like an intro title |
| 11:08.31 | Punkie` | :D |
| 11:08.31 | Punkie` | This rocks. |
| 11:08.39 | Funkeh` | erm? link 3rd and 4rth |
| 11:08.58 | ckknight | http://www.youtube.com/southernjesse |
| 11:09.12 | Punkie` | Funkeh`: Since I'm lazy, can't we just use the friends into and do some quick text editing in times new roman to cover the 'Friends' part? |
| 11:09.27 | Funkeh` | sounds like a plan |
| 11:10.02 | ckknight | lol |
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| 11:10.32 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel 072.1 * r33172 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_BarStates.lua: Bartender3: more cleanups with states |
| 11:10.50 | wobin_ | 1120 files to go |
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| 11:11.04 | yacoob | take one, pass it around, 1119 files to go o/~ |
| 11:11.04 | Funkeh` | wobin_ ? |
| 11:11.26 | wobin_ | Upgrading to ubuntu 7.04 |
| 11:11.51 | yacoob | 1119 ubuntu packages, hanging on the mirror server |
| 11:12.01 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 11:12.02 | yacoob | get one, download it, 1118 packages to go.... |
| 11:12.18 | Funkeh` | lol ckknight |
| 11:12.21 | Funkeh` | 'shove it' |
| 11:12.59 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I'd've written something dirty, but I want to keep my show clean |
| 11:13.33 | Industrial | ckknight: dont show it to your mom then |
| 11:13.37 | Funkeh` | aww |
| 11:13.39 | Industrial | *badoom tisch* |
| 11:13.40 | Funkeh` | its all swirly |
| 11:13.48 | ckknight | Industrial: she sees em all |
| 11:13.52 | ckknight | thinks they're funny |
| 11:13.57 | ckknight | some of the humor she doesn't get, though |
| 11:15.04 | Funkeh` | stare directly at the sun... |
| 11:15.57 | wobin_ | hm |
| 11:17.12 | ckknight | netsplit! |
| 11:17.12 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 11:17.12 | Funkeh` | i still don't get quit messages for this channel wtf |
| 11:17.12 | Funkeh` | works for every other channel i don't get it |
| 11:17.12 | ckknight | Funkeh`: yea, I like to allude to half-truths in my series |
| 11:17.13 | ckknight | like staring directly at the sun |
| 11:17.32 | clad|shower | ckknight: Suggestion for the AceEvent changes |
| 11:17.32 | ckknight | sunspots etc. |
| 11:17.33 | ckknight | yea? |
| 11:17.34 | Punkie` | omg, clad is even IRCing from the shower |
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| 11:18.03 | Funkeh` | clad got a waterproof laptop there? ^^ |
| 11:18.03 | clad|shower | you can delay making a frame for each addon, by creating a closure during the constructor |
| 11:18.30 | clad|shower | then when the addon actually registers for an event, you check for the function, run it to create the frame, and then remove it. |
| 11:18.30 | clad|shower | instead of directly making the frame in the constructor |
| 11:18.53 | clad|work | the 24 bytes required for the closure is a better cost than the 80 bytes for the frame, and accomplishes the same thing in the end |
| 11:19.31 | ckknight | hrm |
| 11:19.33 | ckknight | crafty. |
| 11:19.46 | ckknight | I counted 72 bytes per frame, though |
| 11:19.54 | clad|work | knew it qwas something like that |
| 11:21.10 | clad|work | yay for coding ideas in the shower =) |
| 11:21.29 | clad|work | Funkeh`: I'd be so productive if I had one, hehe |
| 11:21.29 | ckknight | I get those too |
| 11:21.41 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 11:22.06 | nevcairiel | Hrm i wonder, if i can reduce the OnUpdate usage even more |
| 11:22.51 | nevcairiel | But 4s of usage while Ace2 already collected 12, isnt too bad |
| 11:23.27 | Dynom | I get coding ideas at the worst moments |
| 11:23.31 | Funkeh` | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3248.msg95015#msg95015 can someone scroll down to curator and tell me what Warnung f?r should be, appears as a ? for me :/ |
| 11:23.38 | Dynom | last I was on a funural >_< |
| 11:24.02 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: ü |
| 11:24.10 | Dynom | yeah think so too |
| 11:24.14 | [dRaCo] | It's german |
| 11:24.18 | Dynom | ë |
| 11:24.32 | nevcairiel | ü tbh |
| 11:24.33 | clad|work | have a good day all, I'm off towork |
| 11:24.41 | Dynom | bb |
| 11:24.48 | [dRaCo] | "Warnung für" translates to "warning for", if you might have guessed... |
| 11:25.09 | [dRaCo] | s/if/as/ |
| 11:25.11 | [dRaCo] | ... |
| 11:25.28 | Funkeh` | so its a u with 2 dots on top? :p |
| 11:25.33 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 11:25.34 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 11:25.42 | nevcairiel | ü in html :) |
| 11:25.52 | Dynom | umlaud |
| 11:25.58 | [dRaCo] | with t |
| 11:26.00 | [dRaCo] | Umlaut |
| 11:26.04 | Dynom | also gut |
| 11:26.18 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: \195\188 |
| 11:26.24 | Fisker- | who's behind niagara? |
| 11:26.29 | Fisker- | I want to destroy someone |
| 11:26.29 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: ty |
| 11:26.47 | Fisker- | oh Ominous are you gonna get it now? |
| 11:27.40 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33173 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added modifiers hideless(arg), hidegreater(arg), hidelessequal(arg), hidegreaterequal(arg), hideunless(arg), prepend(arg), and append(arg) |
| 11:28.13 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33174 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (5 files): |
| 11:28.13 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: Karazhan: |
| 11:28.13 | CIA-11 | - deDE updates, thanks to Deli |
| 11:30.58 | CIA-11 | 03nevcairiel 072.1 * r33175 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarStates.lua Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua): Bartender3: re-sorted states |
| 11:32.02 | Dynom | what is being updated for bartender lately? |
| 11:32.13 | Dynom | I see a lot of updates for it |
| 11:32.22 | Fisker- | optimizing |
| 11:32.24 | Fisker- | mostly |
| 11:32.28 | Dynom | nice |
| 11:32.53 | nevcairiel | and states are using the new state stack in 2.1 branch |
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| 11:33.03 | Fisker- | stupid nevcairiel won't make anything cool |
| 11:33.16 | Dynom | tbh bartender itself is cool |
| 11:33.33 | Dynom | best actionbar addon I've worked with |
| 11:33.36 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 11:33.40 | Fisker- | i'm just yanking his chains |
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| 11:34.19 | sbu | ok now that clad is afk - i think click2cast > clique :p |
| 11:34.28 | clad|work | lol |
| 11:34.32 | sbu | oh |
| 11:34.33 | sbu | damn |
| 11:34.33 | sbu | :) |
| 11:34.34 | clad|work | i do read logs, and you're welcome to your opinion =) |
| 11:34.40 | sbu | hehe |
| 11:34.42 | Fisker- | still like to some kind of cooldown bars based on your current debuff timer on your mob |
| 11:34.52 | Fisker- | probably gonna be a lot easier in 2.1 though |
| 11:34.54 | sbu | no offence, is it possible to assign key(!) bindings in clique? |
| 11:34.55 | clad|work | Clique fills a specific needs, and does some more than c2c |
| 11:34.56 | Fisker- | with the stuff being inbuilt |
| 11:34.58 | clad|work | but c2c is nice |
| 11:35.06 | clad|work | sbu: no, its a click-casting addon, not a key-binding addon |
| 11:35.12 | clad|work | i like my addons small, simple, and focused =) |
| 11:35.57 | sbu | but my mouse has more than left, right, middle, 4. and 5. button - so i need to assign the rest to some key ;) |
| 11:35.58 | Fisker- | i remember totally being able to click on my keyboard |
| 11:35.58 | Funkeh` | and ofc, workable in showers |
| 11:35.58 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 11:35.58 | Fisker- | i got clickety clack clack keyboards |
| 11:37.01 | clad|work | sbu: Well, key presses don't count as button clicks for click-casting |
| 11:37.04 | clad|work | are you talking about hover-casting? |
| 11:37.15 | clad|work | i.e. hovering over a frame, and pressing a buton to cast a spell, without needing macros? |
| 11:37.15 | sbu | yep |
| 11:37.25 | clad|work | yeah, i see that as a different type of thing |
| 11:37.32 | clad|work | i've considered adding it, but haven't really had the time |
| 11:37.39 | clad|work | but if c2c does it, i know where to send people =) |
| 11:38.06 | sbu | hm im not sure, wait |
| 11:38.07 | clad|work | okay, off to work for real now =) |
| 11:38.16 | clad|work | k k |
| 11:38.18 | clad|work | whats up |
| 11:38.49 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33176 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: |
| 11:38.50 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: |
| 11:38.50 | CIA-11 | - fix inner demons/whispers |
| 11:39.03 | clad|work | on second thought, keep talking and i'll catch up when i get home, hehe |
| 11:39.04 | sbu | ewww nvm |
| 11:39.45 | sbu | ok it doesnt work |
| 11:39.53 | sbu | so i have to assign macros :/ |
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| 11:42.32 | Fisker- | i want my turtle! |
| 11:42.39 | sbu | ckknight - wtb hover-keypress-casting ;p |
| 11:42.43 | sbu | for click2cast ;p |
| 11:42.53 | ckknight | um |
| 11:42.55 | ckknight | you do it |
| 11:43.04 | ckknight | also, I thought that was already in. |
| 11:43.13 | sbu | hmm you can assign keys, yes |
| 11:43.18 | Industrial | Ïll await your patch |
| 11:43.20 | Industrial | ähah |
| 11:43.22 | sbu | but its like normal casting - target-only |
| 11:43.25 | Industrial | ahahah :P |
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| 11:51.02 | perkwunos | hi all |
| 11:51.14 | ckknight | hey perkwunos |
| 11:52.10 | perkwunos | does anybody here would anwser me why WoW command "/castsequence" doesnt work for me? i use 1.12.1 |
| 11:52.23 | Industrial | lol? |
| 11:53.02 | Chompers | :/ |
| 11:53.46 | Fisker- | lololol |
| 11:53.46 | evl | i second that lol and raise with a waffle. |
| 11:53.46 | wobin_ | shouldn't it only be used in a macro? |
| 11:53.46 | wobin_ | waffle-lol? =) |
| 11:53.46 | Chompers | why does my /killenemy not work :/ |
| 11:53.46 | Fisker- | perhaps your private server sucks perkwunos |
| 11:53.46 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 11:53.46 | evl | wafflole™ |
| 11:53.46 | Fisker- | and perhaps /castsequence weren't put in before 2.0 |
| 11:53.46 | knarf- | Fisker- exactly my thought |
| 11:53.46 | ckknight | perkwunos: how are you playing on 1.12.1? |
| 11:53.49 | evl | ./castsequence is only in 2.0 |
| 11:54.00 | Chompers | isnt asia 1.12.1 ? |
| 11:54.11 | Industrial | laffle |
| 11:54.13 | Ordog | yeah asia is 1 year behind in versioning Oo |
| 11:54.13 | Industrial | wol |
| 11:54.24 | ckknight | Chompers: Taiwan got bumped to 2.0.11 or so |
| 11:54.26 | NightHawkTheSane | I thought everyone was post-2.0 at this point |
| 11:54.28 | Chompers | oh right |
| 11:54.33 | wobin_ | poland is not in china =) |
| 11:54.34 | evl | he's playing from poland so I assume it's a private server with PIRATES and NINJAS on it |
| 11:54.43 | wobin_ | That's kinda cool, evl |
| 11:54.50 | evl | no, 2.0 is cool |
| 11:54.51 | wobin_ | Does it have robots too? |
| 11:54.58 | Chompers | ninjas>pirates |
| 11:55.04 | Chompers | except when out at sea |
| 11:55.05 | Industrial | NO WAI |
| 11:55.10 | wobin_ | robots+ninjas+pirates>all |
| 11:55.10 | Industrial | well, maybe |
| 11:55.14 | Industrial | wobin wins |
| 11:55.18 | Chompers | then AND ONLY THEN are pirates>ninjas |
| 11:55.19 | ckknight | what about zombies, wobin_? |
| 11:55.20 | knarf- | ninja turtles > pirates ... but pirate turtles would be cool :> |
| 11:55.20 | evl | wobin_: They made a survey here in norway, it showed that 8/10 company leaders believed Web 2.0 would greatly increase internet usability! |
| 11:55.28 | mitch0 | pew pew laser beams |
| 11:55.38 | wobin_ | evl: waffle lol =) |
| 11:55.47 | wobin_ | oh man |
| 11:55.49 | wobin_ | pirate turtles |
| 11:55.52 | wobin_ | I'd so watch that movie |
| 11:55.53 | Chompers | brb, going to wafflecopter lulz |
| 11:55.54 | evl | Same |
| 11:56.17 | Ordog | pirate is teh new ninja! |
| 11:56.18 | evl | Female Dranei Pirate Turtles™ with Gun Boobs 2.0© |
| 11:56.24 | perkwunos | so my private server sucks? is talking about prvate servers banned here? btw i play WoW since 3 days |
| 11:56.33 | wobin_ | perkwunos: yes, |
| 11:56.41 | evl | perkwunos: short answer: /castsequence does NOT work prior to version 2.0 |
| 11:56.54 | wobin_ | long answer: Buy the game. |
| 11:56.55 | perkwunos | yes to what? |
| 11:56.58 | knarf- | Another short answer: pay for the damn game |
| 11:57.01 | perkwunos | i wont |
| 11:57.08 | perkwunos | so i just leave it |
| 11:57.09 | wobin_ | well don't expect much help then =) |
| 11:57.14 | perkwunos | okie |
| 11:57.15 | evl | I second that short answer and raise you with a suicidal penguin squad |
| 11:57.24 | ckknight | perkwunos: Private serves are against the rules, don't expect help from us if you plan to play on a private server |
| 11:57.27 | wobin_ | Do they suicide with rocket packs? |
| 11:57.30 | ckknight | servers* |
| 11:57.35 | perkwunos | ]ok, i just asked |
| 11:57.40 | perkwunos | see you |
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| 11:57.54 | wobin_ | I bet he has a sword of a thousand truths |
| 11:58.03 | evl | wobin_: No, they store fish under the ice for a really long time and when the fish rots they stuff it with carpet making it inflate and the simply squeeze the fish when they want to blow up |
| 11:58.05 | wobin_ | And uses it to kill boars |
| 11:58.13 | evl | a LOT of fucking boars |
| 11:58.16 | wobin_ | evl: That's really technical |
| 11:58.29 | evl | wobin_: I'm a technical person. Look: XYZ*^2 |
| 11:58.33 | wobin_ | That's some smart penguins |
| 11:58.44 | sbu | boobs? where? |
| 11:58.48 | evl | Too much Al'Jazeera up in the north I tell you! |
| 11:58.56 | ckknight | ( º Y º ) |
| 11:59.04 | ckknight | err, lopsided |
| 11:59.06 | ckknight | whoops |
| 11:59.06 | evl | Teachings of Evil! That's the real threat to the world, NOT global warming |
| 11:59.11 | sbu | lol |
| 11:59.21 | evl | Speaking of global warming, I read the best fucking article every yesterday |
| 11:59.30 | sbu | what did you do to her ckknight :/ |
| 11:59.36 | wobin_ | gave her a shove |
| 11:59.40 | evl | An environmental scientist is saying we should stop cremating people cause it adds to the green-house effect |
| 11:59.43 | evl | I fucking lol'ed |
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| 11:59.55 | ckknight | evl: wtf? lol |
| 11:59.57 | wobin_ | We should chop them up for pig food |
| 11:59.58 | ckknight | wouldn't burying release the carbon anyway? |
| 12:00.09 | ckknight | but pigs fart and cause methane, wobin_ |
| 12:00.10 | evl | ckknight: you score a geek point RIGHT there |
| 12:00.22 | wobin_ | ckknight: not if you plug them! |
| 12:00.29 | NightHawkTheSane | pig bombs! |
| 12:00.34 | wobin_ | (With more pig) |
| 12:00.37 | ckknight | lol. |
| 12:00.43 | evl | I feel it's in the same category as people trying to lose weight by making latté's with low-fat milk :D |
| 12:00.51 | ckknight | but then they'd get sick, die, and release more carbon! |
| 12:00.57 | ckknight | I'm not big on the global warming thing |
| 12:01.02 | Chompers | <wobin_> We should chop them up for human food (i fixed it) |
| 12:01.03 | ckknight | you saw my video |
| 12:01.10 | ckknight | if not, watch my video |
| 12:01.11 | Chompers | soylent greeeeeen |
| 12:01.14 | wobin_ | meh |
| 12:01.15 | evl | http://themot.org/gallery/d/148097-1/FatGirlCantPlay.jpg |
| 12:01.18 | evl | MAN THE HARPOONS |
| 12:01.18 | wobin_ | leads to mad cow disease |
| 12:01.25 | ckknight | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgBQQ2BxC0I |
| 12:01.33 | evl | (Nothing like breaking up a discussion with a fat girl pic) |
| 12:01.33 | Chompers | thar be a fatty off the stern |
| 12:02.01 | ckknight | lol, evl |
| 12:02.52 | sbu | wtf, aguf causing wow errors |
| 12:02.55 | sbu | (on login) |
| 12:03.15 | evl | sbu: hit it with an old .txt file, usually works for me. |
| 12:03.27 | Fisker- | Nice service |
| 12:03.41 | Fisker- | "I got a problem where the server shuts down some time" |
| 12:03.46 | Fisker- | "We can just give you a new server" |
| 12:03.47 | Fisker- | O_o |
| 12:03.55 | sbu | lol |
| 12:05.12 | ckknight | you know what's the worst thing about BBWs? |
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| 12:05.19 | ckknight | they always lie about the second B. |
| 12:05.29 | Fisker- | BBW? |
| 12:06.20 | evl | Brace for horribly insensitive material: |
| 12:06.21 | ckknight | big beautiful woman |
| 12:06.23 | evl | 3... 2... 1... GO! |
| 12:06.24 | evl | http://imgred.com/http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/neojedi17/LJ/emo_hitler.jpg |
| 12:06.35 | ckknight | the problem is that big and beautiful contradict each oter |
| 12:08.03 | wobin_ | evl: That's... inspired =P |
| 12:08.34 | Fisker- | bah ckknight |
| 12:08.39 | Fisker- | you hurt my moms feelings! |
| 12:10.50 | Punkie` | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-reputation.xml?r=Dragonmaw&n=Warla :o |
| 12:13.17 | Chompers | bbw does not exist |
| 12:13.23 | Chompers | its just too stupid |
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| 12:18.02 | knarf- | http://maps.google.com search after 'new york to paris' |
| 12:18.35 | krka | Baby Beluga Whale, according to urban dictionary |
| 12:21.56 | wobin_ | and they're kinda cute |
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| 12:31.12 | Bibi`ouF | who would want to go to paris anyway |
| 12:31.13 | Bibi`ouF | it sucks. |
| 12:31.22 | Fisker- | Filled with scammers |
| 12:31.23 | Fisker- | like me |
| 12:31.31 | knarf- | Noticed the description? :) |
| 12:31.38 | Fisker- | I got scammed for 50€ |
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| 12:32.25 | Fisker- | Then i scammed a scammer for 200€ |
| 12:32.36 | Fisker- | Then he rounded up a bunch of scammers and threatened me |
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| 12:33.00 | knarf- | In the end the threaten was all a scam.. |
| 12:33.14 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar * r33177 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: testing zip script |
| 12:33.23 | Fisker- | test it somewhere else omg |
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| 12:37.00 | Megalon | "Testing 'Destroy all equipped items'-functions" |
| 12:37.17 | Chompers | hey, im working on that addon |
| 12:37.19 | Chompers | dont steal |
| 12:37.33 | Megalon | and with such addons |
| 12:37.36 | Megalon | it's always better |
| 12:37.40 | Megalon | when others test it |
| 12:37.51 | Megalon | so just commit and wait! |
| 12:38.25 | sbu | knarf-: yeah, already know this - was on the radio here 2 weeks ago ;o |
| 12:40.57 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r33178 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: |
| 12:40.57 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: Changed BigWigs LoD and enabling. This adds support for 5 man BigWigs modules. |
| 12:40.57 | CIA-11 | Add extra module flag: module.partyContent = true, to set a module for party enabling. |
| 12:40.57 | CIA-11 | Add extra .toc flag: X-BigWigs-LoadInParty to load the modulepack in a party. |
| 12:40.57 | CIA-11 | Uses RosterLib if available. |
| 12:41.59 | Chompers | woo |
| 12:42.07 | Chompers | now onwards to solowigs |
| 12:42.10 | Megalon | yea |
| 12:42.18 | Megalon | Engaging Felboar! |
| 12:42.47 | Chompers | pvpwigs |
| 12:43.27 | Fisker- | omg nice!!!!1? |
| 12:43.45 | Fisker- | so this means you'll start making normal 5-man mods? :o |
| 12:43.49 | Megalon | hirnwigs! |
| 12:43.54 | [Ammo] | not me |
| 12:44.01 | Fisker- | of course you will troll |
| 12:44.05 | [Ammo] | but someone already started on some 5 man modules |
| 12:44.15 | [Ammo] | this just adds support for them more natively |
| 12:44.45 | [Ammo] | I envision LittleWigs with LittleWigs_ShadowLabyrinth etc :) |
| 12:44.52 | Fisker- | sounds exciting and stuff |
| 12:45.18 | [Ammo] | vhaarr will probably smack my face in when he checks the code |
| 12:45.18 | Megalon | i think LittleWigs_HellfireRamparts for omor the unscarred |
| 12:45.28 | [Ammo] | but he won't return till 19:00 :p |
| 12:45.32 | Megalon | which displays all over the screen |
| 12:45.34 | Megalon | a frame with |
| 12:45.43 | Megalon | MOVE AWAY FROM OTHERS WITH THE DEBUFF |
| 12:46.13 | Health | Are they made to make the trivial 5 man content harder? Like making a fullscreen black frame to fight in "the dark" ? |
| 12:46.24 | Garns | if you can't hammer it into them after two wipe. No frame will do :P |
| 12:46.34 | Megalon | ;X |
| 12:46.46 | Health | sweet |
| 12:46.48 | Megalon | "ZOMG, ME GOSU 5k DPS!!!111" |
| 12:47.09 | [Ammo] | the new bigwigs enabling is pretty nifty too |
| 12:47.22 | [Ammo] | it only enables when you're in the right party type and in the right zone |
| 12:47.42 | [Ammo] | instead of mindlessly enabling when you join a raid |
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| 12:50.04 | Punkie` | omg BigWigs with group support?!?1/1 |
| 12:50.26 | Pneu | ZOMG BigWigs has group support?! |
| 12:50.33 | Punkie` | omgomgomgomg |
| 12:50.43 | Punkie` | Funkeh`: is it true?! |
| 12:58.17 | sbu | uhm |
| 12:58.21 | sbu | bigwigs causing wow error now |
| 12:58.24 | sbu | WTF :) |
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| 12:59.11 | Punkie` | ammo added a name check for you, which causes bigwigs to fail |
| 13:03.03 | sbu | ok |
| 13:03.06 | Ominous | Fisker: what have i done |
| 13:03.17 | sbu | another wow error client |
| 13:03.23 | sbu | something is really messed up |
| 13:04.03 | sbu | i guess its the changed externals + zip files which didnt get updated |
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| 13:04.47 | Laura` | Hello there, i have a question, is there any way to get a bartender options menu ? this chat-thing sucks... |
| 13:04.50 | Funkeh` | Punkie`@ shut the fuck up! :D |
| 13:05.10 | JoshBorke | Laura`: if you are using Bartender3 there should be an icon either around your minimap or on a fubar panel |
| 13:05.26 | Laura` | cant see any |
| 13:05.31 | JoshBorke | if you have fubar, then right click on the fubar panel and there should be an entry for Bartender3 under Action Bars |
| 13:05.45 | JoshBorke | make sure there is a check next to that entry. if there is, try clearing and setting it again |
| 13:05.53 | Laura` | okay ill check |
| 13:05.54 | JoshBorke | you're looking for an icon that looks like beer |
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| 13:06.04 | Nickenyfiken | Is RatingBuster including talents? |
| 13:06.06 | Chompers | have anyone done a heroic auch crytps? |
| 13:06.34 | sbu | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5738.0 <-- uhoh |
| 13:06.41 | sbu | aceevent broken? |
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| 13:06.52 | sbu | (or updated in every zip) |
| 13:08.05 | JoshBorke | sbu: aceevent was updated last night |
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| 13:10.10 | Garns | Chompers: I have |
| 13:10.29 | sbu | yeah JoshBorke, but if you use zips w/ externals you get in trouble i guess |
| 13:10.36 | kenlyric | I <3 people who pass on loot to wait on something from another boss. |
| 13:11.38 | nevcairiel | i dont have any errors with standalones tho |
| 13:15.43 | [Ammo] | me neither |
| 13:15.45 | [Ammo] | all runs fine |
| 13:15.59 | sbu | yeah its fine w/ standalonse |
| 13:16.02 | sbu | -s |
| 13:16.33 | [Ammo] | probably some upgradepath error |
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| 13:20.16 | sbu | http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8717/spamlolgmgl3.png <-- lol (for those who understand german :p) |
| 13:21.11 | nevcairiel | does WIM supress the GM tag, or fake? |
| 13:21.15 | kenlyric | german is funny even without understanding. |
| 13:21.46 | sbu | no fake nevcairiel |
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| 13:22.15 | krka | please explain funny |
| 13:22.24 | sbu | he tells me that the spammer is going to have login problems soon... %-) |
| 13:22.41 | nevcairiel | so WIM does supress GM tags |
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| 13:22.43 | Laura` | :p |
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| 13:24.45 | krka | you report a gold spammer, the gm says he'll ban him |
| 13:24.47 | krka | that's hilarious |
| 13:25.26 | Fisker- | What's hilarious about it? |
| 13:26.15 | krka | 15:20:07 <sbu> http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8717/spamlolgmgl3.png <-- lol (for those who understand german :p) |
| 13:26.16 | nevcairiel | i think krka tried to be ironic |
| 13:27.01 | Fisker- | what is that addon? |
| 13:27.06 | nevcairiel | WIM |
| 13:27.20 | Fisker- | It seems to be made of ass and fail |
| 13:27.41 | nevcairiel | wait, you are the author? |
| 13:28.02 | Fisker- | selfpwned |
| 13:29.46 | Fisker- | How could i've foreseen an ambush BY MY OWN FORCES?! |
| 13:30.30 | xlvii | wow related - NSFW - http://cgi.4chan.org/h/src/1177057975353.jpg |
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| 13:31.38 | Fisker- | rule 34? |
| 13:31.43 | JoshBorke | a paladin, a priest, and a warlock walk into a bar... |
| 13:31.50 | Fisker- | obviously |
| 13:32.40 | Megalon | http://cgi.4chan.org/h/src/1177057975353.jpg which one is the warlock?! |
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| 13:32.50 | Funkeh` | lol? |
| 13:33.11 | Megalon | and, are they already in that bar? |
| 13:33.20 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 13:34.19 | Dynom | Megalon: the warlock took the 'picture' |
| 13:34.24 | kenlyric | paladin is the one with the sword. |
| 13:34.51 | Megalon | end the priest has to be the right one |
| 13:35.02 | kenlyric | from left to right, warlock, paladin, priest. |
| 13:35.14 | Megalon | the healing bitch |
| 13:35.22 | kenlyric | since paladin is clearly on top, and priests love to watch. |
| 13:35.44 | JJSheets | lol paladin has a chain leash on the priest. :p |
| 13:35.47 | Saroz | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:35.47 | Saroz | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:35.47 | Saroz | Not at the moment. Any raid member can be either a main tank or main assist. When their role changes there is a raid roster update so raid frames can reconfigure themselves. |
| 13:35.49 | Saroz | BUUHHH |
| 13:35.56 | kenlyric | JJSheets: just like in-game. |
| 13:36.01 | JJSheets | lol |
| 13:36.20 | Megalon | and the warlock got Whitemane's Chapeau |
| 13:36.57 | sylvanaar | o.O using xml includes your paths are relative to the directory the xml file is in |
| 13:37.16 | kenlyric | yeah,I just zoomed in and saw that. |
| 13:38.45 | wobin_ | dear god |
| 13:38.50 | wobin_ | what is this 'hamburger helper'? |
| 13:39.08 | kenlyric | I guess both of the submissives could be priests. |
| 13:39.28 | Chompers | warlock pet? |
| 13:39.37 | JJSheets | but them it wouldn't fit the joke that a pally, priest and lock walk into a bar... |
| 13:39.48 | wobin_ | "ouch" |
| 13:39.55 | Megalon | so, one has to be a warlock |
| 13:39.59 | kenlyric | JJSheets: yeah, I know. |
| 13:40.03 | kenlyric | it's gotta be the right one then. |
| 13:40.07 | Megalon | perhaps the right one is |
| 13:40.08 | kenlyric | the skull is a hint maybe. |
| 13:40.15 | kenlyric | I'm trying to place those shoulders. |
| 13:40.28 | wobin_ | they're near the arms and below the neck |
| 13:40.36 | JJSheets | lmao |
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| 13:41.09 | Megalon | at the first glance i thought |
| 13:41.12 | Megalon | mantle of black cabal |
| 13:41.32 | Megalon | but they are black/gray, no red :7 |
| 13:41.42 | wobin_ | perhaps that's a manicure set off to the left =) |
| 13:41.45 | nevcairiel | i would say priest, paly, warlock .. due to the needles and other stuff on the left, and skull on the right. |
| 13:42.35 | kenlyric | well, the priest is wearing a priest hat, so there's no doubt there. |
| 13:42.44 | kenlyric | and the pally is wearing pally shoulders. |
| 13:42.52 | nevcairiel | the pally is wearing tier2 .. so the right has to be the warlock |
| 13:42.55 | nevcairiel | or some other class :P |
| 13:42.59 | kenlyric | I mean... really detailed pally shoulders. |
| 13:43.03 | Megalon | the pala got an unenchanted ashkandi |
| 13:43.07 | Kinkx | You're not suppose to look at the stuff they're wearing, think you guys missed the whole point |
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| 13:43.26 | JJSheets | lol |
| 13:43.30 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 13:43.41 | kenlyric | hey, the person who drew it cared enough to give this kind of detail. |
| 13:43.42 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 13:43.46 | Laura` | is bartender 3 bugged@ ace? i allways loose slots when i close the options menu... |
| 13:43.58 | wobin_ | Wherever they are, it's far too hot a climate for leather |
| 13:44.08 | wobin_ | entirely inappropriate |
| 13:44.21 | wobin_ | I don't even want to think about the chafing |
| 13:44.28 | Megalon | perhaps it's a karazhan raid |
| 13:44.30 | JJSheets | yeah, they're sweating something fierce, they need to shed the rest of it. :p |
| 13:44.36 | Megalon | and they are in medivh's room |
| 13:44.36 | kenlyric | well, the shading is a bit off... it might just be skin-tight cloth. |
| 13:44.50 | nevcairiel | Laura`: how can you loose slots? :o define that please :) |
| 13:44.53 | kenlyric | both of the clothy shoulders look kinda metal-y |
| 13:45.01 | wobin_ | although, at least for the one on the right... "Hips don't work that way" |
| 13:46.45 | kenlyric | I still like it better if the one on the right is a priest. Then it's a class balance commentary :) |
| 13:48.08 | Laura` | well nevcairiell, its like that: i but the skills into my bar, then ill do something other and it just disapears, when i open my spellbook they pop up, if i close it they fade |
| 13:48.15 | Laura` | put* |
| 13:49.05 | nevcairiel | can you still use that skills? |
| 13:49.15 | Laura` | no, i cant see and i cant click them |
| 13:49.42 | nevcairiel | do you have "Re-use button" activated? |
| 13:49.55 | Laura` | where can i find that? |
| 13:50.03 | nevcairiel | in the main menu |
| 13:50.15 | Laura` | ah i found it |
| 13:50.28 | Laura` | need to relogg, sec i check |
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| 13:51.25 | Laura` | ah okay thanks |
| 13:51.34 | xyu | good evening |
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| 13:54.49 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33179 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Prat: Rearranged internal structure for experimenting with lod |
| 14:00.22 | Ominous | Fisker: ping |
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| 14:00.51 | trh | sylva: wouldnt it have been easier to branch prat? ;) |
| 14:01.16 | Fisker- | hello Ominous |
| 14:01.18 | Fisker- | i was wondering |
| 14:01.26 | Ominous | why am i going to get it now |
| 14:01.29 | Fisker- | is searching possible in lua? |
| 14:01.38 | Fisker- | err duh |
| 14:01.38 | Ominous | what do u mean |
| 14:01.42 | Fisker- | already know it is :P |
| 14:01.56 | Fisker- | Anyways is it possible to get something like the item ui in 2.1.0 for niagara? |
| 14:02.09 | Ominous | havent seen it |
| 14:02.16 | Fisker- | well you can search for stuff |
| 14:02.19 | Ominous | still need to finish downloading test |
| 14:02.28 | Fisker- | and it excludes stuff that doesn't fit the search criteria |
| 14:02.38 | Fisker- | just to make it easier to navigate niagara :P |
| 14:02.38 | Ominous | hmm, |
| 14:03.36 | Ominous | fisker i can only think of doing it liek /niagara open search but im not sure how efficient that wld be |
| 14:03.46 | Ominous | i mean i cld make it |
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| 14:04.20 | Fisker- | you could just make a box in the niagara ui |
| 14:04.25 | sylvanaar | trh huh? |
| 14:04.38 | Ominous | Fisker: waterfall isnt my lib |
| 14:04.47 | trh | sylvanaar: pratptr2.1 ;) |
| 14:04.57 | sylvanaar | trh thats a branch |
| 14:05.15 | trh | sylvanaar: oh... sorry.... looked different in the cia-message... |
| 14:05.24 | sylvanaar | trh npz |
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| 14:08.10 | Fisker- | You should be able to make searching available in the ui without any consequence on the lib? |
| 14:08.52 | sylvanaar | im not sure, but it seems like you cant get your addon to use less memory than the size of its lua files |
| 14:09.09 | Ominous | Fisker: no not really as all Niagara does is create the table for waterfall |
| 14:09.51 | sylvanaar | wonder if i strip out all the comments and whitespace in my source code if i use less memory |
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| 14:10.12 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: are you sure? |
| 14:10.20 | JoshBorke | i'm betting you can get below the file size |
| 14:10.50 | trh | JoshBorke: with a program that only contains of variable = nil, probably ;) |
| 14:11.38 | JoshBorke | trh: exactly. if you use everything in your files then there's no way you can get below that size |
| 14:11.45 | winkiller | filesize shouldn't be related atall |
| 14:12.16 | winkiller | would make me nervous if lua wouldn't internally handle a var named "mYstupidVarnamlifhosdaifhosdfhosdfhosdh" as just "a" |
| 14:12.49 | JoshBorke | i mean more of size of structures in your file |
| 14:13.22 | trh | maybe someone should write a obfuscator for testing if shortening the variable names and stuff makes the consumed memory less |
| 14:13.24 | sylvanaar | im only asking at the moment - trying to understand what I am seeing |
| 14:13.47 | sylvanaar | yeah, obfuscator would be nice to try |
| 14:13.57 | krka | also, lua keeps a lot of debug data |
| 14:14.06 | [Ammo] | javascript benefits from shorter var names :p |
| 14:14.08 | krka | names of locals, line numbers ,et.c. |
| 14:14.18 | trh | nevcairiel: but that doesnt help readability :( |
| 14:14.27 | sylvanaar | krka thats why i am asking |
| 14:14.51 | trh | if the debug data could be turned off the consumed memory would probably be less then filesize |
| 14:14.57 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: only because its transfered in source form, no? |
| 14:15.08 | nevcairiel | not from the language itself |
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| 14:15.42 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: because the javascript parsers are slow |
| 14:15.53 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: shorter script -> faster initial execution |
| 14:15.54 | nevcairiel | oh well :) |
| 14:16.15 | [Ammo] | removeing all spacing etc won't improve readability though :) |
| 14:16.19 | [Ammo] | but it speeds things up considerably |
| 14:16.30 | sylvanaar | for javascript |
| 14:16.40 | nevcairiel | there are alot of commercial or open and published scripts which come with a "mini" version |
| 14:16.45 | nevcairiel | without spaces and fun stuff |
| 14:16.48 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:16.56 | [Ammo] | dunno how much it affects lua |
| 14:17.00 | [Ammo] | but you could test that :) |
| 14:17.03 | sylvanaar | right |
| 14:17.09 | nevcairiel | well inital execution is kinda pointless |
| 14:17.22 | nevcairiel | login and reloadui .. oh noes! |
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| 14:17.30 | [Ammo] | well if lua's hashlookups are shitty then shorter varnames -> faster lookups |
| 14:17.32 | [Ammo] | but dunno |
| 14:17.44 | [Ammo] | although bytecompiled it should not matter |
| 14:18.03 | krka | i suppose you could obfuscate your lua source before sending it to wow |
| 14:18.09 | krka | could reduce mem usage slightly |
| 14:18.17 | JJSheets | technically, Lua bytecompiles everything before running. |
| 14:18.20 | [Ammo] | not really worth it though I think |
| 14:18.49 | JJSheets | and stores variable names for debugging messages only. |
| 14:19.26 | JJSheets | obfuscating lua code is pointless unless you want nobody else to be able to read it. :p |
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| 14:20.39 | JJSheets | well... actually it stores variable names within the environment tables too... |
| 14:20.43 | trh | JJSheets: well.. if you dont care about debugging messages and its only for wow users.. who cares? :) |
| 14:21.29 | JJSheets | obfuscating would be a bad Idea for libraries, unless the lib entry functions are left alone. other than that, obfuscate away if you want to... you won't gain much if anything by it. |
| 14:22.05 | trh | JJSheets: did you tried if obfuscating/removing whitespaces and stuff decreases memory usage or doesnt change it? |
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| 14:23.53 | Funkeh` | default wow GC's on zone doesn't it? or is that one of my addons |
| 14:24.19 | JJSheets | you'd do better to profile your code. |
| 14:24.19 | JJSheets | I went from a constant increase of 16+ KiB/sec to 0.2 KiB/sec after optimizing InfiniBar. |
| 14:24.25 | krka | only obfuscating names of locals obviously |
| 14:24.52 | trh | JJSheets: but that wasnt the question we discussed |
| 14:25.46 | JJSheets | trh, removing whitespace isn't going to have any useful impact. Slow addons are do to excessive memory increase and CPU usage, fix that, quit worrying about initial and one time costs. |
| 14:26.01 | JJSheets | s/do to/due to/ |
| 14:26.36 | trh | JJSheets: i know, but the question asked was IF removing whitespaces would lower the memory usage, not what else should be done or is better |
| 14:27.25 | JJSheets | well, have fun obfuscating. It'll probably reduce memory usage, yes, but it sounds pointless to me. :) |
| 14:27.50 | trh | JJSheets: it probably is pointless, but from a theoretical view it could be fun :) |
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| 14:30.42 | Stephmw | meh, obfuscation is best left to automated tools, keep your development source clean |
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| 14:35.49 | JJSheets | Well, I'm off to work... ya'll have fun. |
| 14:39.06 | pastamancer | trh: it's not going to help. |
| 14:40.00 | Fisker- | NO |
| 14:40.08 | Fisker- | I want the whole addon on one line |
| 14:40.23 | pastamancer | ~whalestab Fisker- |
| 14:40.26 | purl | ACTION stabs Fisker- with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 14:40.26 | Fisker- | think of the memory the interpreter will save |
| 14:40.34 | Stephmw | ~fishslap Fisker- |
| 14:40.36 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker- up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 14:40.57 | pastamancer | don't forget to run wow with -funroll-loops! |
| 14:40.59 | Fisker- | awesome Stephmw |
| 14:41.28 | Ominous_ | +0. |
| 14:41.35 | Ominous_ | oops |
| 14:41.46 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=281588613&sid=1 <-mac fanboys woo |
| 14:42.00 | krka | Stephmw: that's fairly obvious really |
| 14:43.31 | Stephmw | krka: what, the fishslap, or the keeping sources clean? |
| 14:43.46 | nevcairiel | both |
| 14:45.58 | nevcairiel | is there from a bytecode standpoint any difference in table.field or table["field"] ? |
| 14:46.09 | Stephmw | thing is, if no-one stated the obvious every now and then, newbie devs will repeat our mistakes |
| 14:47.23 | sylvanaar | ok, comments have no effect, present or not |
| 14:47.44 | Stephmw | sylvanaar: makes sense for them to be stripped by the script loader |
| 14:49.24 | sylvanaar | sure, just checking myself |
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| 15:04.24 | Amadeo | hot candy! |
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| 15:05.35 | sylvanaar | i wonder if the cost of the profiling information gets attributed to the addon |
| 15:06.12 | sylvanaar | no way for me to test that i dont think |
| 15:07.20 | krka | nevcairiel: no |
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| 15:10.22 | Dynom | weekend, cya! |
| 15:10.52 | kenlyric | cool, a hard crash from a mod. Is that even possible? |
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| 15:12.31 | sedatedChipmunk | kenlyric: infinite loops do it |
| 15:12.46 | trh | someone using wine with wow, a nvidia card and dual-head? |
| 15:12.54 | sedatedChipmunk | =x |
| 15:12.58 | sedatedChipmunk | wtf |
| 15:13.03 | Amadeo | I haven't had dual head since college |
| 15:13.11 | sedatedChipmunk | yes, yes, and yes =\ |
| 15:13.13 | kenlyric | odd, didn't happen again. random hiccup I guess. |
| 15:13.29 | kenlyric | Amadeo: two dogs and jar of peanut butter do not count. |
| 15:13.39 | trh | sedatedChipmunk: i got the problem that it always starts on my vga screen, i want to start it on my dvi |
| 15:13.55 | Amadeo | kenlyric: I would never call yo momma that! |
| 15:13.58 | Amadeo | Ohhhhhhhh! |
| 15:14.25 | Amadeo | where's ckknight when you need him? |
| 15:14.32 | Stephmw | trh: no on dual head alas |
| 15:15.03 | kenlyric | why in the heck would you have a vga screen and a dvi screen? |
| 15:15.04 | sedatedChipmunk | trh: i'll post ya my xorg.conf |
| 15:15.07 | kenlyric | doesn't that hurt your brain? |
| 15:15.22 | Amadeo | kenlyric: I have a CRT made in the 90's...it hurts my brain :P |
| 15:15.25 | trh | kenlyric: agp card... there are NO agp cards from nvidia with 2 dvi outputs |
| 15:15.31 | kenlyric | my computer came with one of each, and I had to switch to dual dvi. |
| 15:16.01 | trh | kenlyric: the vga output is ok from my card (tfts on both outputs) |
| 15:16.06 | trh | sedatedChipmunk: thanks |
| 15:16.16 | Stephmw | bwahahahahaha, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/20/geek_service/ |
| 15:16.19 | kenlyric | I have widescreen lcds, so the vga one was just *wrong* |
| 15:16.34 | Stephmw | trh: I beg to differ... my 5700 has twin DVI |
| 15:16.41 | trh | kenlyric: got a samsung syncmaster as main-tft and a quit cheaper one from amw |
| 15:16.55 | Amadeo | It's sad when the monitor I use can be bought for $50 these days used :P |
| 15:16.59 | trh | Stephmw: ok.. let's precise it: there were no cards with dual dvi when i wanted to buy one :) |
| 15:17.03 | Amadeo | I think I paid $500 when it was new |
| 15:17.12 | Stephmw | trh: haha, true enough |
| 15:17.19 | Stephmw | trh: and the 5700 is just too old nowdays |
| 15:17.28 | kenlyric | mine is a 6600 |
| 15:17.30 | trh | Stephmw: got a 7600 =) |
| 15:17.40 | kenlyric | but honestly, I'm not sure if it's agp or pci-E... probably pci. |
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| 15:18.33 | trh | the thing that freaks me out is, that the performance with wow running under wine isn't badder than wow directly running under vista |
| 15:18.41 | Amadeo | it is for me |
| 15:18.44 | Amadeo | I lose 20 fps |
| 15:18.55 | Amadeo | well, compared to XP |
| 15:18.56 | kenlyric | are you sure you saw that he said "vista" ;) |
| 15:18.57 | Stephmw | trh: yeah, my current one is also a 7600 |
| 15:19.06 | trh | Amadeo:ya, compared to xp i lose fps too =) |
| 15:19.11 | Amadeo | kenlyric: I would bet any amount of money that I won't lose more than 3 fps in vista :P |
| 15:19.21 | Stephmw | compared to XP, I gain about 5fps under wine :) |
| 15:19.28 | Tornhoof | well some wine layer apis are actually kinda optimized |
| 15:19.29 | kenlyric | trh: you think wow is bad in vista, try running half-life 2 in windowed mode in vista.... Do not Want :) |
| 15:19.37 | trh | kenlyric: hehe |
| 15:19.41 | Amadeo | Stephmw: I don't know how that's possible |
| 15:20.01 | Amadeo | Linux must have extremely varying driver performance |
| 15:20.07 | Tornhoof | yes |
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| 15:20.24 | trh | Amadeo: depends alot on the vendor and card model |
| 15:20.29 | Amadeo | Some people claim more fps than Windows, and other claim less...in my case, significantly less, no matter what I do to tweak it :( |
| 15:20.37 | Amadeo | I have the same card most have, 6600 GT |
| 15:20.49 | trh | Amadeo: used the current nvidia-glx? |
| 15:20.52 | Stephmw | Amadeo: well, one thing I'm able to do on linux is rip a dvd to xvid while playing wow |
| 15:21.02 | Stephmw | Amadeo: wasn't even remotely conceivable under xp |
| 15:21.09 | Amadeo | trh: Yeah, I tried everything |
| 15:21.19 | sedatedChipmunk | http://ace.pastey.net/14595 |
| 15:21.23 | Amadeo | Stephmw: With what hardware? |
| 15:21.46 | sedatedChipmunk | i believe the 'Screen' entry under the device sections was what did it for me |
| 15:22.03 | Stephmw | Amadeo: amd64 x2, 4200, 2gb ram, MSI 7600GS agp, passive cooled |
| 15:22.26 | Amadeo | I have older hardware, perhaps it's just not supported as well as it could be |
| 15:22.43 | Stephmw | could be - things improved substantially with ubunty feisty |
| 15:22.57 | Amadeo | I tried it in Feisty also |
| 15:22.57 | Stephmw | gained about 7fps without changes |
| 15:23.23 | Amadeo | I have an older P4 - 2.26GHz, 1GB RAM, 6600GT |
| 15:24.44 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: Those settings gained you fps? |
| 15:24.46 | Amadeo | oh, that's for someone else |
| 15:24.46 | hyperChipmunk | uh, those are the settings that make it work like i want it to |
| 15:24.47 | hyperChipmunk | yea, for trh |
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| 15:25.28 | Amadeo | sylvanaar: How did Prat look on PTR? |
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| 15:30.15 | Laura` | hmm which is the best Mailmod at ace ? |
| 15:30.20 | Laura` | i dont like bulk |
| 15:31.05 | hyperChipmunk | >8*( |
| 15:31.46 | Amadeo | I still use CT_MailMod, to be honest :P |
| 15:32.02 | Laura` | well i actually wanna get rid of all the "non-ace" addons |
| 15:32.03 | Laura` | ^^ |
| 15:32.06 | Amadeo | Partially because I never keep up to date with new addons, and nobody talks about mail addons in here anymore |
| 15:32.35 | Tornhoof | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/04/top-11-reasons-geeks-call-in-sick.html |
| 15:32.42 | trh | hyperChipmunk: thanks, i'm looking through it =) |
| 15:33.23 | TecnoBrat | Speaking of Prat on the PTR .. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=97061804&sid=1 |
| 15:33.46 | TecnoBrat | Aparantly they are using an old version tho :P |
| 15:33.50 | hyperChipmunk | bulkmail's done the job for me since i wrote it; is there something people want with it? |
| 15:34.24 | Laura` | i really loved the ct_mailmod so i just want something like that... |
| 15:35.09 | hyperChipmunk | you can use it like that, unless there's something new it's doing |
| 15:35.09 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: I don't think there's anything wrong with it |
| 15:35.27 | kenlyric | Laura`: if you love ct_mailmod, just use ct_mailmod :) |
| 15:35.31 | hyperChipmunk | it just uses a list instead of the boxes |
| 15:35.40 | Laura` | it laggs the shit out of my pc... |
| 15:35.51 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: no! all must be converted! |
| 15:35.52 | kenlyric | ct_mailmod probably doesn't... it's pretty tiny. |
| 15:36.14 | kenlyric | postal works for me, though it is not just like ct_mailmod |
| 15:36.17 | hyperChipmunk | ct_mailmod is pretty huge |
| 15:36.22 | hyperChipmunk | for what it does |
| 15:36.33 | hyperChipmunk | that's why i wrote bulkmail =x |
| 15:36.36 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: it's no bigger than gmail! |
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| 15:36.55 | Laura` | kk bulkmail then x) |
| 15:37.07 | kenlyric | bulkmail is nearly perfect, except it doesn't also bulk-open. |
| 15:37.15 | hyperChipmunk | it's not supposed to! |
| 15:37.16 | kenlyric | so it's not all that bulk. |
| 15:37.20 | hyperChipmunk | use ExpressMail for that |
| 15:37.26 | Kemayo | I find bulkmail+expressmail to be a perfect combo. |
| 15:37.35 | hyperChipmunk | BulkMail/ExpressMail are meant to complement one another |
| 15:37.39 | kenlyric | so wait, when did bulkmail get fixed? |
| 15:37.56 | kenlyric | cause when gmail went to the great beyond, it was full of bugs. |
| 15:37.56 | Kemayo | Fixed? |
| 15:38.00 | hyperChipmunk | when was it broken? |
| 15:38.18 | Kemayo | I remember no bugs, I must confess. |
| 15:38.26 | Laura` | i cant find expressmail at my wowaceupdater |
| 15:38.26 | Laura` | x( |
| 15:38.30 | hyperChipmunk | Laura`: read the readme that comes with |
| 15:38.31 | deltron | I use bulkmail personally, never heard of expressmail |
| 15:38.36 | hyperChipmunk | it's in tekkub's repo probably |
| 15:38.41 | hyperChipmunk | sec |
| 15:38.41 | kenlyric | ewww |
| 15:39.10 | Amadeo | whatever happened to Gmail2? |
| 15:39.21 | Pneu | Gmail2 = Postal |
| 15:39.24 | Kemayo | Somewhere around the time that gmail had "issues", I rewrote bulkmail to not use AceGUI any more. That might be the buggy period you're rembmering. |
| 15:39.28 | kenlyric | postal is exactly what I want out of a mail mod, Laura` ... your mileage may vary. |
| 15:39.32 | Amadeo | Whatever happened to Postal? :P |
| 15:39.50 | Amadeo | I wanna know what it looks like |
| 15:40.05 | Pneu | Gmail was great until it got pulled for being a ctmod ripoff |
| 15:40.17 | kenlyric | it even now stores saved senders lists by char, which is perfect for what I do. |
| 15:40.25 | hyperChipmunk | http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/files/ExpressMail-2.0.104.rar |
| 15:40.29 | Amadeo | Pneu: That's the thing, it *was* CT_MailMod :P |
| 15:40.36 | kenlyric | All my alts send to my AH alt, and my AH alt sends to my main. Perfect. |
| 15:40.42 | shieldb | kenlyric, I <3 postal but I wish it had a way to disable the modules easily in game |
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| 15:41.41 | hyperChipmunk | i wish someone had told me that bulkmail wasn't meeting their needs =P |
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| 15:41.58 | Industrial | yeah, reinventing the wheel ftl |
| 15:41.59 | shieldb | I like all the features postal provides, except the alt click to send implementation -- I prefer bulkmail for that |
| 15:42.18 | Industrial | s |
| 15:42.28 | Laura` | thanks |
| 15:42.32 | hyperChipmunk | i use ctrl-shift-click for practically everything |
| 15:42.43 | Pneu | anyone here had any problems with the latest Bidder? it's stopping all my Ace2 addons loading up |
| 15:42.54 | Industrial | they could have just improved ag_unitframes instead of saying 'no ours of "different"' |
| 15:42.55 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: well, I'm not one of those... I prefer the alt-click sending method that postal has, so I wouldn't use bulkmail even if it did bulk-open. |
| 15:42.57 | hyperChipmunk | it's my favorite thing in bulkmail =) |
| 15:43.14 | shieldb | I see pitbull as more of reinventing the dodecahedron then the wheel tbh |
| 15:43.24 | deltron | I like being able to 'queue' stuff up in bulkmail |
| 15:43.27 | Industrial | shieldb: lol. |
| 15:43.46 | hyperChipmunk | i just open my inventory, ctrl-shift-click everything i don't want, and it all goes where i want it right away |
| 15:43.46 | shieldb | deltron, yeah exactly |
| 15:43.54 | kenlyric | does bulkmail let you remember specific type of items and send them automatically? |
| 15:43.58 | shieldb | yep |
| 15:44.05 | Industrial | reinventing the wheel is only viable if you are actually going to cut functionality. |
| 15:44.09 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: right away? don't you ahve to click send? |
| 15:44.13 | hyperChipmunk | newp |
| 15:44.23 | shieldb | kenlyric, it doesn't autosend but it'll autoqueue stuff up |
| 15:44.26 | hyperChipmunk | it just disappears and shows up an hour later |
| 15:44.27 | kenlyric | how is it different than how postal alt-click sending works? |
| 15:44.42 | shieldb | postal alt + click sends it to the person who is in the to field currently |
| 15:44.47 | hyperChipmunk | i dunno; never used postal |
| 15:44.48 | kebinusan | yeah I liked the auto sending herbs to the bank alt and such you could do with BM |
| 15:44.53 | kenlyric | shieldb: mmmmmm does it only autoqueue full stacks? or a setting for that? |
| 15:44.56 | deltron | because if you accidentally alt+click something with postal you didn't mean to, you're hosed |
| 15:45.09 | hyperChipmunk | altclick adds them to the list |
| 15:45.10 | shieldb | bulkmail alt+click queues the items up in a list to be sent, then you hit the bulkmail send to fire them all off to the current recipient |
| 15:45.13 | kenlyric | deltron: not the way I use mail :) |
| 15:45.18 | hyperChipmunk | ctrl-shift-click is instasend |
| 15:45.29 | [Ammo] | to each their own I say |
| 15:45.36 | shieldb | kenlyric, no, it'll autoqueue all of whatever type of item you have on you |
| 15:45.47 | shieldb | but you can alt click it in the queue list to remove it before you hit send |
| 15:45.50 | Amadeo | Does Postal look just like CT_MailMod? |
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| 15:45.58 | Stephmw | no |
| 15:45.59 | kebinusan | Amadeo: no |
| 15:46.04 | kenlyric | shieldb: I'm trying to get less work :) |
| 15:46.08 | Stephmw | it'd be nice if it looked similar |
| 15:46.14 | [Ammo] | boggle |
| 15:46.15 | hyperChipmunk | and they go to 1) the person to whom you specified by specific item or PT set or 2) your default destination |
| 15:46.17 | [Ammo] | it does not have looks |
| 15:46.20 | [Ammo] | or barely any |
| 15:46.23 | Amadeo | I'm confused then |
| 15:46.25 | [Ammo] | it just adds a few extra buttons |
| 15:46.28 | Amadeo | I went to a mailbox, and I didn't see much :P |
| 15:46.42 | Amadeo | no mass mail? |
| 15:46.44 | kebinusan | Amadeo: yeah just alt+click on items in your bag to mail them |
| 15:46.58 | shieldb | it was especially handy back during AQ/Naxx when I'd set all the scraps/idols/scarabs to go to our appropriate guildbanks and I could just open the mailbox and hit send and everything would go where it was supposed to go |
| 15:47.02 | kebinusan | it doesnt do a list or anything just fast efficient alt click to mail |
| 15:47.04 | kenlyric | wonder what would happen if I used postal and bulkmail at the same time... I'll have to find next time. |
| 15:47.10 | Amadeo | kebinusan: So one at a time? |
| 15:47.25 | shieldb | kenlyric, if you use both at the same time, postal's alt click to instasend wins out |
| 15:47.26 | kebinusan | yeah I forget why I stopped using bulkmail |
| 15:47.27 | kenlyric | shieldb: well, all I ever send are leathers and mining materials, so it's be perfect for me. |
| 15:47.30 | Industrial | Amadeo: same amount of clicks though I guess |
| 15:47.30 | hyperChipmunk | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/BulkMail/README |
| 15:47.42 | Bibi`ouF | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=119.0 |
| 15:47.45 | shieldb | kenlyric, yeah I've got any of my 'for sale' tradeskill items set to autoqueue to my bank guy |
| 15:47.46 | Bibi`ouF | finally got decent screenshots of the dual blade |
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| 15:48.00 | Amadeo | Industrial: Yeah, true, but do you have to enter the recipients name each time? |
| 15:48.02 | kebinusan | Amadeo: no different than adding them to a list in ctmailmod then having to click send, but yes, alt click one thing in your bags and it gets mailed then |
| 15:48.14 | kenlyric | shieldb: so, it sounds perfect for what I want then, plus it has instasend thrrough CTrl-shft-click. |
| 15:48.14 | hyperChipmunk | i dunno what postal does; the only thing out when i wrote bulkmail was CT |
| 15:48.17 | Industrial | Amadeo: no that'd not be automated then |
| 15:48.20 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:48.48 | shieldb | kenlyric, yeah but again, if you run postal with bulkmail make sure to comment out expressmail in postal's toc to avoid tragedy |
| 15:48.50 | kenlyric | soooo , now I just need mass open. |
| 15:48.55 | kebinusan | bulkmail still needs acegui right? |
| 15:49.03 | shieldb | kebinusan, not to my knowledge |
| 15:49.03 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 15:49.06 | Roartindon | Hmm.. who's in control of SharedMedia? |
| 15:49.07 | hyperChipmunk | uses tablet |
| 15:49.10 | shieldb | kenlyric, postal has mass open |
| 15:49.12 | kebinusan | ah cool |
| 15:49.27 | kenlyric | shieldb: but I can't run them side by side without making manual edits. |
| 15:49.28 | Industrial | mas open is bad imo. should eb _per_ mail item automated collecting but not everything. can cause you to lose items with lag. |
| 15:49.32 | Industrial | mass* |
| 15:49.52 | shieldb | I run postal for all the mass open / remember who I've sent to / autocomplete names / etc, and then bulkmail for the bulkmail sending / queueing hotness |
| 15:49.54 | hyperChipmunk | i'm taking a look over bulkmail's code now; if there's any features you think it needs, lemme know |
| 15:49.56 | shieldb | yeah manual editing ftl |
| 15:50.02 | Amadeo | I should probably just use Bulkmail, since I never use any other aspects of the addons |
| 15:50.08 | Industrial | lets merge all mail addons and modularize it so theres clarity about there being only one mail addon and everyong ets to pick what they want |
| 15:50.10 | kenlyric | since it'll get hosed the next time I update. |
| 15:50.11 | Amadeo | I don't want mass open |
| 15:50.11 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 15:50.13 | Industrial | (and im not going to do it) |
| 15:50.33 | kenlyric | Amadeo: I can't imagine life without mass open. |
| 15:50.46 | shieldb | kenlyric, I just have postal's toc open in an editor the entire time and every time it updates it comes up with a "This file has changed outside of the editor. Would you like to reload it?" and recomment out the line in question |
| 15:50.48 | kebinusan | hyperChipmunk: One suggestion would be to steal some of the code baggins uses to easily setup bags with PT categories for mass mailing |
| 15:50.50 | kenlyric | when the AH sends me 175 things.... |
| 15:50.51 | Industrial | kenlyric: people have lost items with that |
| 15:50.57 | Amadeo | a lot of people |
| 15:51.12 | Industrial | like oops there goes my 500g item |
| 15:51.28 | hyperChipmunk | kebinusan: ooh, good idea |
| 15:51.30 | Industrial | or more like, OMAGAD WHEREISIT>!?! |
| 15:51.34 | Laura` | where can i find the settings of my archud oO? |
| 15:51.56 | hyperChipmunk | enable the fubar thingy |
| 15:51.56 | kenlyric | i heard about mail problems two years ago, but I haven't heard anything recently. |
| 15:52.06 | Laura` | well i cant see any ArcHUD there oO |
| 15:52.07 | kebinusan | Ive never had a problem with losing items |
| 15:52.19 | kenlyric | not sure how postal's insanely slow bulk open could ever lose an item due to lag... |
| 15:52.22 | hyperChipmunk | /archud config |
| 15:52.25 | kenlyric | it opens mail slower than *I* would. |
| 15:52.55 | Laura` | does not work |
| 15:53.07 | shieldb | kenlyric, I run ct_mailmod just on my bank guy instead of postal for mass open so it doesn't take an hour for mass AH returns |
| 15:53.09 | hyperChipmunk | did you just download it? |
| 15:53.36 | Laura` | yup |
| 15:53.43 | hyperChipmunk | have you restarted WoW since? |
| 15:53.58 | Laura` | thousand times |
| 15:54.24 | kenlyric | shieldb: yeah, i can't do two different mods for the same thing. That requires... I dunno.. *character-specific* mod settings :) |
| 15:54.25 | hyperChipmunk | /ace enable ArcHUD |
| 15:54.25 | hyperChipmunk | ? |
| 15:54.25 | hyperChipmunk | maybe it got disabled |
| 15:54.41 | shieldb | I don't log on to my bank guy all that often so it doesn't bother me too much |
| 15:54.47 | Laura` | i can see it |
| 15:54.52 | hyperChipmunk | strange |
| 15:54.53 | Laura` | but i tryed /ace enable ArcHUD2 |
| 15:54.56 | hyperChipmunk | no errors? |
| 15:54.59 | Laura` | he said i need to restart |
| 15:55.03 | Laura` | ill check |
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| 15:55.51 | shieldb | I dislike setting up multiple mods that do the same sort of thing on different characters if it's regular characters, but I don't mind it at all for "normal characters" vs. AH Alts |
| 15:56.19 | shieldb | like I run kc_items on all my regular characters, but auctioneer on my bank guy because kci doesn't meet my needs for that situation |
| 15:56.56 | deltron | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EF&displaylang=en |
| 15:57.16 | Laura` | lol now i got two addons |
| 15:57.16 | Laura` | oO |
| 15:57.22 | Laura` | wtf is that :x |
| 15:57.43 | kenlyric | I have 122 addons. You've got some work left. |
| 15:57.50 | Laura` | two hud addons |
| 15:57.51 | Laura` | i mean |
| 15:57.55 | kenlyric | cool |
| 15:58.04 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@srbk-590fb9ed.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 15:58.11 | kenlyric | for those times you're playing as an ogre? |
| 15:58.13 | CowBook | totally off-topic |
| 15:58.15 | CowBook | anyone have any recommendations for a bag that'll do a good job of holding my 17" powerbook with cables, etc, and DSLR camera gear? |
| 15:58.15 | Laura` | well 122 isnt that hard, just mark all wowace and install? |
| 15:58.23 | kenlyric | lol |
| 15:58.32 | Laura` | :D |
| 15:58.33 | kenlyric | there' 600 in wau :) |
| 15:58.39 | Laura` | 635 |
| 15:58.48 | Laura` | got ya! |
| 15:58.49 | kenlyric | man, it grew. |
| 15:59.01 | Laura` | 122 addons, are you crazy? |
| 15:59.26 | kenlyric | yeah, I need more. |
| 15:59.39 | kenlyric | haven't yet found a function that needs to be modded. |
| 15:59.48 | *** join/#wowace faCe| (n=face@pd955fa9c.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:00.36 | Laura` | hmm, try the escape button ? |
| 16:00.44 | Pneu | i only have 83 o.O |
| 16:00.53 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110 (i=bla@pD957DFBD.dip.t-dialin.net) |
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| 16:01.19 | kenlyric | hmmm.. pitbull_interactlines... is this the thing I requested for grid? |
| 16:01.24 | nevcairiel | 146 here, using standalones. |
| 16:01.27 | CIA-11 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r33188 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail.lua CHANGELOG): |
| 16:01.27 | CIA-11 | BulkMail: |
| 16:01.27 | CIA-11 | - Default destination saved per-character instead of per-realm. Dunno why it was like this before. |
| 16:01.37 | Pneu | well 83 here embedded |
| 16:01.47 | Pneu | would be a few more with standalones |
| 16:02.02 | kenlyric | sweet! |
| 16:02.59 | kenlyric | there we go, jumpcounter :) |
| 16:04.45 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 16:04.50 | Fisker- | jack thompson got fucking owned |
| 16:06.10 | deltron | finally :) |
| 16:06.49 | Fisker- | indeed :P |
| 16:07.04 | Roartindon | link? |
| 16:07.10 | kenlyric | do bigwigs_respawntimers have karazhan trash in them? |
| 16:07.12 | Roartindon | I wanna read JT getting owned |
| 16:07.30 | Fisker- | http://www.thelastboss.com/post.phtml?pk=2660 |
| 16:07.34 | Fisker- | It was kinda selfowned |
| 16:07.55 | Fisker- | Unfortunately he's still allowed to rant about shit, but hey i guess that's the least we can expect from freedom of speech |
| 16:08.03 | kenlyric | was he caught playing microsoft counterstrike? |
| 16:08.16 | deltron | http://www.digg.com/search?section=news&s=thompson |
| 16:08.55 | Fisker- | Nah he found out it was Valve's Half-Life: Counter-Strike :P |
| 16:10.24 | *** part/#wowace Roartindon (n=jtlim@ppp77-50.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 16:10.35 | kebinusan | kenlyric: I think bigwigs_respawntimers is dated, try incubator |
| 16:10.52 | deltron | incubator is nice |
| 16:11.05 | kenlyric | the last patch note says "added note about incubator" |
| 16:11.06 | *** join/#wowace Grine (i=Gustaf@c83-248-132-55.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 16:11.15 | kebinusan | I could be wrong though |
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| 16:11.27 | shieldb | incubator doesn't have naxx respawn timers atm |
| 16:11.40 | shieldb | if you get me the info I can add it easily enough, though |
| 16:11.42 | Fisker- | wtf outrage |
| 16:11.45 | Grine | question: did something go wrong with one of the libs recently? |
| 16:11.46 | deltron | naxx... |
| 16:11.46 | kenlyric | omg no! |
| 16:11.51 | kenlyric | burn the mod to the ground please |
| 16:11.55 | deltron | I haven't been there ever, but got attuned ages |
| 16:12.00 | kebinusan | that note that was added = BigWigs:Print("If you want timers for TBC content, check out Incubator on WoWAce.") |
| 16:12.04 | hyperChipmunk | Grine: ckknight screwed up something yesterday |
| 16:12.08 | kebinusan | heh |
| 16:12.09 | kenlyric | I got attuned after tbc cause I figured someone would pug around in it. |
| 16:12.13 | kenlyric | I was *wrong* |
| 16:12.14 | xlvii | how long would it take a warrior to level to 70? is it slow compared to say, a mage? |
| 16:12.17 | hyperChipmunk | it was quickly fixed, though |
| 16:12.24 | CIA-11 | 03shieldb * r33189 10Incubator/Core.lua: Incubator: Updated Attumen trash to 25m (From 30m), code cleanups, dev mode gives more info on bars starting |
| 16:12.34 | kenlyric | sweet |
| 16:12.45 | Grine | hyperChipmunk, hmm ok, cause most of my mods died when I updated with the updater |
| 16:13.00 | kenlyric | going back to bigwigs from DBM, cause I'm tired of people whispering me to find out how long the fight is :) |
| 16:13.08 | hyperChipmunk | if you updated today, you should be fine |
| 16:13.14 | hyperChipmunk | run the updater again |
| 16:13.18 | hyperChipmunk | if you haven't |
| 16:13.45 | Laura` | hmmm |
| 16:13.49 | Laura` | ice and archud suck |
| 16:13.50 | Laura` | :( |
| 16:14.01 | Laura` | is there no dHUD for ace? |
| 16:14.10 | hyperChipmunk | Laura`: you're really not making any friend like that =x |
| 16:14.11 | kebinusan | ewww dhud |
| 16:14.11 | Grine | don't diss icehud... |
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| 16:14.38 | Laura` | k sorry |
| 16:14.45 | shieldb | Laura`, intent is 90% of the game for mods meeitng your needs - use the tool for the job, a mod being aced is just a plus ;) |
| 16:14.47 | Laura` | its not what i need |
| 16:15.03 | hyperChipmunk | better =) |
| 16:15.11 | Laura` | well dHUD does not take much space does it ? |
| 16:15.34 | shieldb | I used dhud last when I was using a hud and it worked fine with all my other stuff |
| 16:15.34 | hyperChipmunk | git offa me, yo |
| 16:15.44 | Fisker- | :( |
| 16:15.56 | Laura` | hmm |
| 16:16.03 | Grine | the only ace2 mod that seems to be woking here is bartender... wtf |
| 16:16.18 | deltron | hmm |
| 16:16.20 | Grine | hmm squeenix as well |
| 16:16.27 | deltron | that does not sound good |
| 16:16.40 | Grine | pitbull, fubar, prat all dad |
| 16:16.43 | Grine | dead* |
| 16:16.51 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5542.msg95088#msg95088 whatcha think about using this for all the optionally LoD stuff |
| 16:17.21 | hyperChipmunk | Grine: you have "out-of-date" addons disabled or somethin'? |
| 16:17.39 | Grine | nah it's on, first thing I checked |
| 16:17.46 | Grine | really wierd |
| 16:17.57 | hyperChipmunk | errors? |
| 16:18.41 | Grine | nothing |
| 16:18.45 | kenlyric | I'm awash in a sea of confusion. There are two mods that allow you to open multiple item tooltips at once. How can that mod possibly be complex enough to be done in two different ways? ;) |
| 16:19.00 | Grine | all the files are there |
| 16:19.10 | hyperChipmunk | the problem was a .toc one; might need a wow restart |
| 16:19.14 | Grine | and yes I reloged/restrarted |
| 16:19.20 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 16:19.41 | Grine | though I'll restart again just to be sure |
| 16:20.39 | Fisker- | but you halped me hyperChipmunk |
| 16:20.42 | Fisker- | i owe you my life! |
| 16:22.47 | Grine | hyperChipmunk, now WoW is crashing when I try to log on... |
| 16:22.54 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 16:23.12 | Grine | I'll tell you what happens later, guess I can't blame the mods anymore |
| 16:23.47 | CIA-11 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r33190 10Prat/PratPTR2.1/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Prat: renamed Prat_Modules/embeds.xml to Prat_Modules/includes.xml |
| 16:24.51 | Fisker- | zzz. |
| 16:25.07 | Fisker- | overpowered paladins! |
| 16:25.59 | Fisker- | The effect of SA and Illumination is retarded when 2 paladins decide to heal each other for a long time :P |
| 16:26.13 | deltron | lol |
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| 16:27.33 | Fisker- | oh my god |
| 16:27.50 | Fisker- | Then the paladins start shifting out gear |
| 16:28.03 | Fisker- | one has askhandi and the other has the twin emp blade |
| 16:28.03 | kebinusan | ? |
| 16:28.30 | Fisker- | and untamed blade :o |
| 16:28.45 | Fisker- | Why do they even have that anymore? :P |
| 16:28.53 | Saladin | looks kewl? :p |
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| 16:31.40 | *** join/#wowace Herio (n=kvermil@132.241.6.18) |
| 16:31.40 | Herio | HI! |
| 16:31.41 | deltron | HI! |
| 16:32.30 | Industrial | anyone have experience with http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetQuestReward ? |
| 16:32.31 | Fisker- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrFVjg79_iM <-holy shit lol |
| 16:33.36 | Grine | damn it... |
| 16:34.08 | [Ammo] | can anyone confirm that you can't say: bukowski |
| 16:34.10 | [Ammo] | over wow chat |
| 16:34.12 | *** join/#wowace beerke (n=beerke@5353E179.cable.casema.nl) |
| 16:35.01 | [Ammo] | any sentence containing 'bukowski' is gone |
| 16:35.08 | [Ammo] | kinda euhm, weird |
| 16:35.11 | Herio | i can say i can say it |
| 16:35.16 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 16:35.20 | Herio | BUKOWSKI |
| 16:35.21 | [Ammo] | wonder what addon is blocking it :p |
| 16:35.21 | Industrial | who is fred phelps |
| 16:35.28 | Punkie` | its not an addon ammo you homolover |
| 16:35.28 | Herio | oh |
| 16:35.29 | Herio | in game? |
| 16:35.32 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 16:35.34 | Fisker- | n00b [Ammo] |
| 16:35.34 | Grine | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5738.0 |
| 16:35.34 | [Ammo] | I can't type it in game |
| 16:35.43 | Fisker- | it's a server filter |
| 16:35.48 | Punkie` | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=281328679&sid=1 |
| 16:35.49 | Fisker- | try whispering it to someone instead |
| 16:35.50 | [Ammo] | whyyyyyyyy |
| 16:35.51 | Punkie` | i just read it from there |
| 16:35.52 | kenlyric | Fisker-: that and jack thompson in one day... it warms my heart |
| 16:35.53 | kebinusan | Fisker-: Im all for free speech, but people should also have some respect |
| 16:35.57 | Grine | hyperChipmunk, seems AceEvent is to blame... |
| 16:36.32 | Fisker- | I just think it's funny that people can get so upset because of a couple of retards |
| 16:36.57 | kenlyric | grieving people are rarely very rational. |
| 16:37.04 | kenlyric | It's really not a good idea to fuck with them |
| 16:37.21 | kebinusan | eh, using a tragedy as a platform for your political agenda just sorta makes me sick.. I think theres a special place in hell for people who do that |
| 16:37.57 | Herio | anyone else see the hardball clip posted on kotaku? |
| 16:38.19 | kebinusan | back in a minute hopefully |
| 16:38.24 | Herio | he doesn't even know two shits about CS and he's calling it as evil as sin |
| 16:38.31 | Herio | it's pretty fucking disgusting |
| 16:38.41 | kenlyric | microsoft counterstrike? |
| 16:38.51 | kenlyric | evil fucking game. Eats babies, I hear. |
| 16:39.07 | Industrial | Fisker-: what is it about who is phelps |
| 16:39.09 | Industrial | etc |
| 16:39.37 | kenlyric | Industrial: if you don't know who phelps is, you're probably better off not knowing. |
| 16:39.45 | Industrial | you make me look it up. |
| 16:40.07 | Fisker- | Only heard of him today :P |
| 16:40.25 | *** join/#wowace LLoydBates (n=anonym@p509265DC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:40.35 | Industrial | whats hist first name |
| 16:40.36 | Industrial | :P |
| 16:40.36 | kenlyric | well, I can't really even post his website. :) |
| 16:40.42 | Fisker- | But he's apparently some religious fanatic that thinks that the people at the VT shooting deserved it |
| 16:40.59 | Industrial | ha, religion. |
| 16:40.59 | Fisker- | godhatessmokes.com |
| 16:41.04 | Herio | Fred Phelps? Just by looking at his page on wikipedia i'm going to say he's a souless biggot :O |
| 16:41.08 | Fisker- | i.e. smokes in british |
| 16:41.09 | Fisker- | ;D |
| 16:41.18 | pastamancer | falwell? |
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| 16:41.32 | Fisker- | starts with fa :P |
| 16:41.46 | Industrial | is there mention of christianity in the law system in the USA? |
| 16:41.56 | pastamancer | oh, phelps |
| 16:41.57 | Industrial | as in, rules you have to abide by etc |
| 16:42.14 | kenlyric | He got famous for showing up at matthew shepherd's funural with a sign that said "god hates fags". That was one of his classier stunts. |
| 16:42.22 | *** join/#wowace kebinusan (n=kevin@71-89-139-35.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
| 16:42.28 | kenlyric | then he started showing up at dead soldiers funerals. |
| 16:43.28 | Herio | "Phelps and the Westboro church run the website godhatessweden.com. Phelps has declared that the heavy Swedish losses in the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, initially overestimated to be near 20,000, were God's punishment of Sweden for the promotion of ho.." |
| 16:43.28 | Fisker- | but really [Ammo] there's some pretty screwed up wordfilters in WoW right now :P |
| 16:43.32 | kenlyric | Industrial: not explicitly, no. |
| 16:44.04 | pastamancer | the promotion of ho? |
| 16:44.05 | Fisker- | Although the country is somewhat run by a religious fanatic :P |
| 16:44.11 | Fisker- | ".." |
| 16:44.11 | Herio | homosexuality |
| 16:44.13 | Herio | sorry |
| 16:44.16 | Fisker- | oh :o |
| 16:44.18 | kenlyric | are they nappy-headed? |
| 16:44.19 | Herio | =P |
| 16:44.26 | Herio | THUNDERCATS HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. |
| 16:45.23 | Industrial | How can you forbid homosexuality, legally, ever |
| 16:45.25 | Industrial | ? |
| 16:45.40 | pastamancer | though police? |
| 16:45.45 | pastamancer | s/though/thought/ |
| 16:46.54 | Industrial | you cant. so anyone against it should stfu and gtfo :P |
| 16:47.07 | Industrial | go be anti-gay in your backyard |
| 16:47.09 | kenlyric | or, uh, don't do it yourself? |
| 16:48.00 | kenlyric | I feel that way about all vice laws. |
| 16:48.08 | Proph | black ppl make a big fus about anything |
| 16:48.11 | kenlyric | uh, don't make them illegal. Just do them if you don't want. |
| 16:48.42 | kenlyric | don't think people should drink on sunday? then don't drink on sunday. |
| 16:48.58 | Herio | true |
| 16:49.22 | Herio | but i think drungs that cause temporary insanity are best kept illegal :O |
| 16:49.47 | kebinusan | People want laws to make things illegal because they lack the self control to not do those things themselves |
| 16:49.53 | Industrial | religion can not justify rights as its by defenition not truth. it might be true. |
| 16:49.55 | Herio | marijuana on the other hand could be illegalized and heavily taxed and regulated :O |
| 16:50.55 | Herio | s/illegalized/legalized/ |
| 16:52.14 | kenlyric | Jack Thompson should be a corrupt vice cop in GTA4. |
| 16:53.04 | Herio | I'm going to make a Source mod where all you do it blow Jack Thompson's head off with a shot gun. |
| 16:53.12 | Herio | I'd like to see his reaction. |
| 16:53.30 | kenlyric | that actually might be a crime. :) |
| 16:53.40 | Industrial | while I await fortress forever :p |
| 16:53.49 | Herio | nah |
| 16:54.23 | Herio | i'm sure he'd press charges, but i don't think there's any substance :O |
| 16:54.44 | Herio | there isn't any threat |
| 16:54.45 | Industrial | charges for what? its not threat, its amusement |
| 16:54.50 | Herio | yeah |
| 16:54.55 | Herio | but he's a fucktard |
| 16:54.59 | Herio | and he'd do that |
| 16:55.04 | kebinusan | If I ever get crazy enough to shoot up a school, I make sure I fill my room with christian propaganda first |
| 16:55.10 | Herio | he'd be like 'THEY ARE TRAINING TO KILL ME OMGZ" |
| 16:55.12 | Industrial | lol |
| 16:55.17 | Herio | lol |
| 16:55.42 | Industrial | When Ill ever step foor in america ill wear a shirt that just says |
| 16:55.44 | Herio | i'd make an idol of jack thompson and make it look like i worshiped him =P |
| 16:55.49 | Industrial | PROUD ATHEIST |
| 16:55.52 | Herio | lol |
| 16:56.04 | Herio | well i'm out of here |
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| 16:56.10 | Industrial | wonder how long it'l take til i get stabbed |
| 16:56.11 | Herio | see yall around =p |
| 16:56.16 | Industrial | bye Herio |
| 16:56.33 | Herio | i don't think people hate atheists |
| 16:56.39 | Punkie` | Industrial: why would you? |
| 16:56.46 | Herio | just people who live on conrtary to their beliefs |
| 16:56.51 | Punkie` | maybe if you walked around with PROUD MUSLIM |
| 16:56.52 | Punkie` | or something |
| 16:56.53 | Herio | IE homosexuals |
| 16:57.43 | Industrial | meh i read this article that said atheists were considered lower then muslim extremist suicide bombers in the US |
| 16:57.49 | kenlyric | most people I know don't believe in atheists. They just figure they're confused. |
| 16:57.53 | Industrial | _might_ have been pre 9/11 tho |
| 16:57.54 | Industrial | lol |
| 16:58.29 | kenlyric | and yes, that was post 9/11 industrial. |
| 16:58.46 | Industrial | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdVucvo-kDU |
| 16:58.47 | Industrial | there |
| 17:01.51 | kenlyric | http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/02/black_president_more_likely_than_mormon_or_atheist_/ |
| 17:01.56 | kenlyric | here's what you were looking for :) |
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| 17:05.12 | kenlyric | so, uh... how about them mods? |
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| 17:06.10 | Industrial | yeah so |
| 17:06.30 | Industrial | GetQuestReward() anyone? |
| 17:06.42 | Industrial | I need to get my addon to complete quests but not where you need to choose |
| 17:07.45 | kenlyric | ? |
| 17:08.09 | Industrial | an auto quest completion addon |
| 17:08.10 | Fisker- | anyone else got a problem with party frames in pitbull? |
| 17:08.15 | Industrial | (for all quests) |
| 17:08.57 | kenlyric | ahh, nice idea |
| 17:09.13 | Pneu | amagad |
| 17:09.20 | Pneu | WoW UI Updater = best program EVAR |
| 17:09.31 | TecnoBrat | http://flickr.com/photos/gluek/tags/starcraft/ |
| 17:09.34 | kenlyric | I thought that, until I used it. |
| 17:09.55 | Fisker- | wow |
| 17:10.06 | Fisker- | the demons finally broke through on stairs of destiny |
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| 17:10.10 | Pneu | only thing it doesnt do is pull addons from gcode svn as far as i can see |
| 17:10.15 | Fisker- | i hope they win |
| 17:10.23 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 17:10.30 | TecnoBrat | that would be funny |
| 17:10.34 | TecnoBrat | the ever going battle |
| 17:10.44 | TecnoBrat | and they finally take over somehow :P |
| 17:10.51 | kenlyric | Pneu: it's a monster to use though... load a list of addons, check your addons for version, check online for version, update. It's a lotta work. |
| 17:12.03 | Fisker- | bah |
| 17:12.20 | Pneu | yeh, ive got it set up to update once, i wonder if i will ever use it again |
| 17:12.53 | Ominous | Fisker: hey |
| 17:14.22 | Fisker- | Hey. |
| 17:16.12 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 17:17.33 | CIA-11 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r33191 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua: |
| 17:17.33 | CIA-11 | BulkMail: |
| 17:17.33 | CIA-11 | - actually USE the per-char setting >8P |
| 17:19.17 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r33192 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: CandyBar-2.0: optimize gradient calculations by snapping to 1 - 100 and caching the results. Should lead to less CPU usage. |
| 17:19.50 | Ominous | Fisker: what did you want 3 hrs ago :p |
| 17:20.47 | Fisker- | Just a searchbox in niagara that filters out any other addons incrementially showing the addons that match |
| 17:22.17 | Fisker- | shit has gone wrong >o |
| 17:22.25 | Fisker- | frames are going berserk here >O |
| 17:22.26 | Fisker- | :o |
| 17:22.49 | Fisker- | Grid doesn't expand the backdrop frame and pitbull doesn't update when i join a party :I |
| 17:24.11 | CIA-11 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r33193 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail.toc lib/ lib/Ace2/): |
| 17:24.11 | CIA-11 | BulkMail: |
| 17:24.11 | CIA-11 | - Replaced Metrognome with repeating events |
| 17:24.11 | CIA-11 | - TOC/externals unused library cleanup |
| 17:25.01 | kenlyric | now if fishingace could get rid of metrognome |
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| 17:26.09 | Elkano | anyone of you played super Mario? http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=22986 |
| 17:26.15 | hyperChipmunk | edit it out yourself; it's pretty much a search-and-replace |
| 17:26.20 | Fisker- | a looooooooooong time ago Elkano |
| 17:26.29 | Chompers | the latest version of ratingsbuster isnt showing up, anyone experience this? |
| 17:26.42 | hyperChipmunk | Elkano: none of us, ever |
| 17:26.47 | Chompers | its enabled, but i dont see it ingame, /rb doesnt work also |
| 17:27.06 | Fisker- | mine works fine |
| 17:27.18 | kenlyric | what's "super mario?" |
| 17:27.41 | hyperChipmunk | ROFL |
| 17:27.58 | hyperChipmunk | #$!% you, blooper! |
| 17:28.16 | kenlyric | super mario warped me. I murder every turtle I come across. |
| 17:28.53 | Fisker- | that's a hacked rom Elkano |
| 17:29.04 | kenlyric | Elkano: lol.. I was wondering how long it would take someone to combine those two things... |
| 17:31.07 | hyperChipmunk | "who designed this? king koopa has never had level designers of this quality" |
| 17:31.07 | Pneu | lol Elkano im lmao here |
| 17:31.47 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 17:31.51 | hyperChipmunk | this is awesome |
| 17:32.58 | Bibi`ouF | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=119.0 |
| 17:32.58 | kenlyric | it's so hard to believe at one point I struggled with part of Super Mario Bros. |
| 17:33.00 | Bibi`ouF | warlock T6 stats out |
| 17:33.07 | kenlyric | that last hammer brother before koopa used to rape me, hard. |
| 17:33.11 | NeoTron | so only last night did I fullt realize how critical constant use of Prayer of Mending is |
| 17:33.22 | kenlyric | NeoTron: which fight? |
| 17:33.36 | hyperChipmunk | this is !#$!^ing worse than an R.L. Stein book |
| 17:34.01 | NeoTron | kenlyric: any fight where you DPs? :) |
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| 17:34.14 | kenlyric | and yes, PoM basically should be in a state of usefulness whenever its cooldown is up. |
| 17:34.15 | NeoTron | flash heal is more healing |
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| 17:34.22 | NeoTron | but PoM is.. A LOT of free threat ot the tank |
| 17:34.22 | kenlyric | Do not underestimate the value of an aggro-free heal. |
| 17:34.31 | NeoTron | negative aggro if you wish |
| 17:34.35 | NeoTron | it adds threat to the tank |
| 17:34.46 | kenlyric | it's better on a fight where two tanks are trading blows... especially if you don't have any rogues. |
| 17:34.53 | NeoTron | On nightbane I literally couldn't outthreat the tank period |
| 17:35.05 | NeoTron | I was baffled at the difference from the night before with a priest that doesn't use pom |
| 17:35.21 | kenlyric | I even use it on a fight like prince, where it's not going to bounce to anyone who will get hit by anything. |
| 17:35.26 | NeoTron | by the time I had finished applying CoS and 3 dots, the tank had like 10k threat |
| 17:35.36 | NeoTron | curator... |
| 17:35.48 | NeoTron | overall it should be the first priority spell for a priest |
| 17:35.54 | NeoTron | followed by MT renew |
| 17:36.02 | NeoTron | and then you can think about flash/GH |
| 17:37.07 | kenlyric | now you can see why having it with no cooldown was completely overpowered :) |
| 17:37.16 | hyperChipmunk | *kicks koopa* "ok yea that makes sense" |
| 17:37.26 | Kilroo | I just found out I can get a free 10 day trial of Burning Crusade on my old WoW account... |
| 17:37.44 | Industrial | sell it |
| 17:38.01 | Kilroo | my first thought was "AWESOME! I can try out some of the Ace addons from since I ran out of money!" |
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| 17:38.35 | NeoTron | kenlyric: I agree. that's... 800-1000 threat per 1.5 sec for.. very little mana |
| 17:39.10 | kenlyric | NeoTron: I don't ever have to worry about healing aggro. I'm surrounded by profoundly stupid paladins who start spamming heals on the tank the instant he takes damage. |
| 17:39.10 | NeoTron | and healing as a bonus |
| 17:39.20 | NeoTron | heck PoM without healling wouls till be worth it if it added the threat :P |
| 17:39.25 | kenlyric | which is funny when we have a druid tanking... they pull aggro all the time. |
| 17:39.38 | NeoTron | druids generalte good threat |
| 17:39.42 | NeoTron | still better than warriors |
| 17:39.46 | kenlyric | they do, but they're slower at it. |
| 17:39.48 | NeoTron | at least if they know what they are doing |
| 17:40.38 | NeoTron | nah |
| 17:40.38 | NeoTron | with druid tanks I am less concerned about pulling aggro than a warrior |
| 17:40.38 | NeoTron | warrior builds threat the slowest but has the best mitigation (aka put the warrior on the target that dies last) |
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| 17:41.16 | kenlyric | I reallly can't imagine some of the bosses without PoM. |
| 17:41.19 | hyperChipmunk | "hey they gave me a platform" |
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| 17:42.38 | ravagernl | Is it possible to hook the function Hide() ? |
| 17:42.52 | hyperChipmunk | hookscript |
| 17:43.03 | kenlyric | NeoTron: PoM is nasty for rogues though... makes their lives harder. |
| 17:43.14 | ravagernl | I want to make an addon wich uses http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UIFrameFadeIn |
| 17:43.23 | kenlyric | they pull aggro, the mob turns to hit them, and bam, more extra threat for them :) |
| 17:43.43 | NeoTron | so found out that two out of 4 priests do not use PoM |
| 17:43.46 | NeoTron | at all |
| 17:43.53 | pastamancer | kenlyric: nobody cares about rogues though |
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| 17:44.01 | NeoTron | kenlyric: hehe. antifade |
| 17:44.04 | kenlyric | o.O |
| 17:44.08 | NeoTron | but rogues just have to avoid pulling aggro |
| 17:44.47 | hyperChipmunk | "hoho freebie!" |
| 17:45.06 | kenlyric | you can use that to your advantage on a fight like curator if your rogues are on adds. |
| 17:45.27 | kenlyric | just use pom and them and it's like superglue. |
| 17:45.33 | kenlyric | *on them |
| 17:45.46 | deltron | man pom has got me killed lately :( |
| 17:45.52 | kenlyric | um... tell those priests they are incredibly dumb. |
| 17:45.58 | deltron | pom pyro trinket = dead mage |
| 17:46.10 | kenlyric | deltron: different pom :) |
| 17:46.11 | Kilroo | Gee, No one cares about rogues...makes me feel so special... |
| 17:46.12 | kenlyric | priest pom |
| 17:46.40 | Kilroo | Actually my main problem always seemed to be that my spec had a sort of a gap in it. |
| 17:47.07 | Kilroo | I played a stunlock/crit style. |
| 17:47.42 | Kilroo | Which can be problematic if the party doesn't understand it. |
| 17:48.01 | deltron | lol |
| 17:48.05 | deltron | what pom? |
| 17:48.11 | kenlyric | Prayer of Mending |
| 17:48.14 | deltron | oh |
| 17:48.23 | deltron | yeah that pom is nice |
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| 17:48.39 | Kilroo | Because unless the MT is pulling aggro reliably enough to keep mobs from looking at me...I need them to let me tag one mob at a time on my own and NOT HELP. |
| 17:48.55 | kenlyric | it's the second most efficient heal in the game if it procs twice. |
| 17:49.07 | deltron | kenlyric: most efficient is earth shield by far |
| 17:49.22 | kenlyric | what's it do? |
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| 17:49.33 | deltron | like pom but better |
| 17:49.33 | kenlyric | I'm new to shammies, I know very little about how they heal. |
| 17:49.36 | Kilroo | I recall this one group where I died at least twice because our tank was a couple levels behind me and not very well specced. |
| 17:49.41 | deltron | 10 charges |
| 17:50.13 | deltron | and helps with spell interruption, etc |
| 17:50.14 | Kilroo | Couldn't pull aggro back once I got off a critical ambush...and kept breaking my stunlocks. |
| 17:50.31 | Kilroo | But that was an anomaly. Usually I managed to work well with almost any prty I joined. |
| 17:50.33 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 17:50.47 | Kilroo | I've heard pickup groups have gotten worse and worse since my account ran out though. |
| 17:50.52 | kenlyric | deltron, it might have more abilities, but it's not more efficient. |
| 17:50.52 | Fisker- | i thought blizzard had disabled autoporting of people when dead and entering an instance portal they didn't belong to |
| 17:51.05 | kenlyric | it's only 2700 total base healing for 900 mana |
| 17:51.08 | deltron | kenlyric: it's 700 mana |
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| 17:51.21 | Kilroo | Hey, anyone have any addons they'd particularly recommend I check out? |
| 17:51.42 | deltron | earth shield crits all the time |
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| 17:51.53 | deltron | and it's getting buffed in 2.1 |
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| 17:51.57 | kenlyric | says earth shield rank 3 is 900 mana. |
| 17:52.07 | kenlyric | talented to reduce maybe? |
| 17:52.28 | Kilroo | I'll take that as a no. |
| 17:52.30 | deltron | no |
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| 17:53.30 | hyperChipmunk | Elkano: that was great |
| 17:54.47 | deltron | kenlyric: earth shield is a 41 point talent |
| 17:54.47 | deltron | kinda sucks |
| 17:54.47 | kenlyric | well, let's say it crits 5 out of the 10 times... that's ~3500 healing across the 10 charges, for you say 700 mana. Prayer of mending is 4000 healing for 390 mana |
| 17:54.47 | deltron | ok |
| 17:54.51 | deltron | well earth shield used to be the best :P |
| 17:55.15 | kenlyric | earth shield has a 100% chance of all its procs going off, which makes it nice. |
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| 17:55.52 | deltron | unsure if earth shield counts as a healing spell |
| 17:56.00 | deltron | since it's a shield |
| 17:56.07 | kenlyric | Lightwell is the most efficient heal in the game, but does rely on a lot of things going right. :) |
| 17:56.09 | deltron | shaman have talents to reduce mana costs, etc |
| 17:56.23 | deltron | lightwell is nice if it is placed correctly |
| 17:56.43 | kenlyric | lightwell is 15k healing for 445 mana. |
| 17:57.01 | Paene | Anyone know a good place to get information on how to fix tainting? :) |
| 17:57.12 | deltron | too bad not many people use it |
| 17:57.14 | kenlyric | even with only one tick per application, it's 5000 healing for 445 mana. |
| 17:57.17 | Paene | I'm kinda new to lua and have been trying to maintain Cryolysis |
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| 17:58.53 | Amadeo | Are flying mounted players immune to CC like Polymorph? |
| 17:58.57 | Kilroo | Holy crap... |
| 17:58.58 | Paene | the problem with lightwell btw, is that it's too situational...any aoe or DoT or direct damage removes the buff and therefore makes it one of the least efficient heals in the game |
| 17:59.13 | Paene | well, potentially that is |
| 17:59.15 | vhaarr | Paene: You should be on the PTR to test that, and use issecurevariable |
| 17:59.30 | kenlyric | Paene: you have a very high chance of getting the first tick. |
| 17:59.40 | kenlyric | it happens very rapidly after you receive the buff. |
| 17:59.47 | Kilroo | apparently I have been away for so long that my addon folders still all say Bosspanel. |
| 17:59.59 | Kilroo | Well, not ALL of them, but you get what I mean. |
| 18:00.01 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 18:00.03 | kenlyric | that's 800 base healingx5... 4000 healing for 445 mana. |
| 18:00.49 | kenlyric | reducing the number of ticks from 5 to 3 really upped the usability. And of course, training people how to use it :) |
| 18:01.48 | deltron | does lightwell scale with your +healing? |
| 18:02.10 | kenlyric | yeah. |
| 18:02.19 | kenlyric | across the whole spell, so /15 for each tick. |
| 18:04.13 | kenlyric | I still wouldn't get it over divine spirit, but where it's at in the tree now, it's a nice bit of additionalusability for a talent point that doesn't have a whole lot of useful places to go. |
| 18:04.52 | Paene | whats the duration of the lightwell buff? |
| 18:05.04 | kenlyric | the buff is six seconds, three ticks. |
| 18:05.17 | Paene | so it gets 40% benefit from +healing |
| 18:05.19 | kenlyric | the well itself lasts 3 minutes, spell cooldown is six. |
| 18:05.41 | NeoTron | earthshield is the bomb |
| 18:06.40 | kenlyric | Paene: the well itself is what gets your +healing, and it's treated just like renew. |
| 18:07.25 | Paene | right, the benefit from +healing to a "Over Time" spell is duration of the buff/15% |
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| 18:07.29 | CIA-11 | Depot: initial commit |
| 18:07.29 | CIA-11 | - <make a simple black bottom frame in the UI> |
| 18:07.29 | Paene | 6/15 is 40% |
| 18:07.40 | Paene | so if you have 1000 +healing |
| 18:07.45 | Paene | that's 400 added |
| 18:07.48 | Paene | to the base |
| 18:07.56 | Paene | then split out evenly over all the ticks |
| 18:07.58 | Paene | so /3 |
| 18:07.59 | kenlyric | oh, you're right.. |
| 18:08.09 | kenlyric | that makes the number even higher than the way I was doing calculation :) |
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| 18:08.21 | NeoTron | isn't it num ticks / 5 ? |
| 18:08.31 | NeoTron | so 3 / 5 = 60%? |
| 18:08.36 | NeoTron | or did that change? |
| 18:08.43 | Paene | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Plus_damage_and_Plus_healing#Over_Time_Spell |
| 18:08.51 | Paene | that's where I'm getting my info |
| 18:08.59 | Paene | may be out of date |
| 18:09.03 | NeoTron | o wait |
| 18:09.12 | NeoTron | it ticks ever 2 seconds? |
| 18:09.21 | NeoTron | every other HoT ticks ever 3 seconds in which case my math works :P |
| 18:09.28 | Paene | :) |
| 18:09.41 | NeoTron | every 3 seconds = ticks / 5 or duration / 15 |
| 18:09.51 | kenlyric | I'll have to check... it might tick every 3 seconds. |
| 18:09.52 | Paene | yeah |
| 18:09.57 | Paene | well |
| 18:10.05 | Paene | if it ticks 3 times |
| 18:10.12 | Paene | it would have to be every 2 seconds |
| 18:10.24 | kenlyric | I really don't think the calculation works the same as renew though. |
| 18:10.50 | kenlyric | but I got nothing to back that up. |
| 18:11.42 | kenlyric | seems like the game would determine its effective healing when I cast the lightwell, n ot when someone clicks on it. |
| 18:12.02 | Paene | it would |
| 18:12.10 | Bibi`ouF | ok |
| 18:12.13 | Bibi`ouF | got nearly all the T6 stats on http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=119.0 now |
| 18:12.15 | Paene | that number is stored in the lightwell object (from a programming perspective) |
| 18:12.37 | Paene | and applied to each lightwell buff independently |
| 18:13.10 | kenlyric | by that calc, the entire spell gets more than 100% +healing. |
| 18:13.26 | kenlyric | which I'm all for :) |
| 18:13.31 | Paene | hm...cuz of the casting time of the lightwell? |
| 18:13.39 | Paene | I didn't think about that... |
| 18:14.23 | shieldb | wow, rogue t6 is really light on +hit, +39 across the whole set o_0 |
| 18:14.32 | shieldb | not counting sockets, anyways |
| 18:14.35 | NeoTron | shieldb: but it's just 5 pieces and has gem slots |
| 18:16.26 | Fisker- | Anyone know if Hearthstone is in PT3Bar? |
| 18:16.47 | packetlss | has lightwell been changed lately? i thought it had 0% return from +heal gear at TBC release at least |
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| 18:17.13 | shieldb | T4 has 53 + sockets across all the pieces, T5 has 30 + sockets across all the pieces |
| 18:17.14 | shieldb | o_0 |
| 18:17.14 | kenlyric | packetlss: hmmm. I'm seeing that. |
| 18:17.41 | kenlyric | ticking for 787, every two seconds, for six seconds. |
| 18:17.49 | Fisker- | s/PT3bar/PT3/ |
| 18:18.01 | NeoTron | ok.. so some tier 6 pieces are better than crafter gear |
| 18:18.02 | NeoTron | ... |
| 18:18.03 | NeoTron | some |
| 18:18.21 | NeoTron | more stamina for sure but when will I replace all shadoweave gear? heh |
| 18:18.27 | kenlyric | 787 x 3 is 2361, which is exactly what lightwell base is. |
| 18:18.47 | Bibi`ouF | ok :p http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=119.0 all tier 6 stats available |
| 18:19.01 | packetlss | kenlyric: the devs have been talking about the fact that they are trying to make it useful |
| 18:19.08 | NeoTron | Bibi`ouF: thanks |
| 18:19.20 | kenlyric | packetlss: it's useful to me now. I just ahdn't realized it didn't scale with gear. |
| 18:19.43 | kenlyric | it's 100% useful all the time like prayer of mending, but definitely worth keeping. |
| 18:19.49 | Paene | w00t found my taint |
| 18:19.51 | kenlyric | errr, *NOT 100% useful |
| 18:19.55 | Paene | now how the heck do I fix it |
| 18:19.57 | kenlyric | Paene: wash your hands. |
| 18:19.57 | Paene | lol |
| 18:20.29 | NeoTron | I know how to make lightwell useful |
| 18:20.59 | NeoTron | 1) Give lightwell X heal ticks, 2) make the click effect channelled, 3) only use ticks when applied |
| 18:21.00 | Fisker- | stupid blizzard |
| 18:21.08 | NeoTron | and 4) stop ticking when the target is fully healed |
| 18:21.23 | NeoTron | 5) double the mana cost since it's now actually useful |
| 18:21.34 | NeoTron | so it heals but only consumes charges for actual heals |
| 18:21.37 | deltron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=97829961&sid=1 <-- lol |
| 18:22.32 | kenlyric | absolutely not on the channeled part. |
| 18:22.42 | shieldb | well hmm.. t4 -> t5 -> t6 for just the chest is 7 -> 10 -> 12. Legs are 22 -> 0 -> 0 with 2 sockets. Gloves are 14 -> 20 -> 15 with 1 socket. |
| 18:22.48 | kenlyric | it's one of the features of lightwell, that you can use it on the move. |
| 18:23.06 | Paene | everything is side-grades |
| 18:23.09 | Paene | gotta love it |
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| 18:23.42 | kenlyric | shieldb: that's which stat? |
| 18:23.45 | NeoTron | kenlyric: ah but you misunderstand |
| 18:23.46 | shieldb | hit rating |
| 18:23.54 | NeoTron | kenlyric: the channeler would be the lightwell, not the recipient |
| 18:23.58 | Fisker- | habeeb it shieldb |
| 18:23.59 | shieldb | for rogue tiered gear |
| 18:24.04 | NeoTron | so you can move just as you can move when someone is drain lifing you.. |
| 18:24.07 | shieldb | itty bitty boat! |
| 18:24.17 | NeoTron | like the jewelcraftign healing statues |
| 18:24.18 | kenlyric | but I would have to stand still? |
| 18:24.25 | Paene | Anyone know if the WoWAce libraries have been updated for 2.1 yet? |
| 18:24.27 | NeoTron | nah |
| 18:24.36 | NeoTron | you can move rpetty far with those statues and they keep healing you |
| 18:24.57 | NeoTron | you click and you get a stream of healing power to you |
| 18:25.12 | kenlyric | how's that different than a dot? |
| 18:25.19 | kenlyric | well, except for the pretty :) |
| 18:25.23 | NeoTron | it's connected to the light well |
| 18:25.36 | NeoTron | from a game logic point of view, a dot is "gone" by the time it hits you |
| 18:25.49 | NeoTron | the game doesn't know the source and can't just account for ticks that actually happened |
| 18:25.59 | kenlyric | I see what you mean now. Like a lazer that gets you to full, then stops. |
| 18:26.04 | NeoTron | yep |
| 18:26.10 | NeoTron | and each tick eats one charge |
| 18:26.18 | kenlyric | that'd be completely wtfooverpowered :) |
| 18:26.25 | kenlyric | They'd make that sucker cost like 2000 mana. |
| 18:26.44 | Paene | not if each tick eats a charge |
| 18:26.48 | packetlss | don't worry, they wont fix it anyway :p |
| 18:26.53 | Paene | lol |
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| 18:27.21 | NeoTron | kenlyric: that's fine |
| 18:27.29 | NeoTron | better be expensive and useful than cheap and useless :) |
| 18:27.42 | NeoTron | although I often wish priests woud put it down so I can life tap and eat the heal |
| 18:27.46 | NeoTron | esp on fights like R&J |
| 18:27.56 | NeoTron | but even priests that has it never use it |
| 18:28.08 | kenlyric | NeoTron: well, that's the point... it's not useless.. it just has to be used correctly. |
| 18:28.23 | shieldb | NeoTron, but to be fair, half the time that people cast it everyone else just goes and wastes it |
| 18:28.31 | kenlyric | like circle of healing.. it's not useless.. it just has limited uses, and has to be used correctly. |
| 18:28.31 | NeoTron | what makes it "useless" is that it puts the healing responsibility to the target |
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| 18:28.43 | NeoTron | AND it assumes no one else will heal that person |
| 18:29.01 | kenlyric | it's lots more useful in a five-man than in a 25-man or even 10man |
| 18:29.28 | NeoTron | it's like giving the priest a 500 DPS ability instead of the rogue that vanishes as soon as the priest does any damage >:-) |
| 18:29.29 | kenlyric | it's great for the bolt eater on curator. |
| 18:29.36 | NeoTron | hrm |
| 18:29.37 | Cryect | its a second bandage that the target has to run for |
| 18:29.43 | NeoTron | how can it be if you keep eating bolts? |
| 18:29.51 | Paene | bolt eater? |
| 18:29.52 | Paene | lol |
| 18:29.53 | kenlyric | bolts don't come every three seconds. |
| 18:29.57 | Cryect | bolts are spread 8 seocnds apart or os |
| 18:29.59 | NeoTron | reasonbly often |
| 18:30.04 | kenlyric | unless i've been seeing a different curator fight. |
| 18:30.06 | NeoTron | it's not regularly spaced |
| 18:30.07 | Stephmw | hmm, the PB thread question about experience bar showing is interesting... I'd appreciate such a thing too, but for factions :) |
| 18:30.16 | Cryect | they don't come that fast |
| 18:30.21 | NeoTron | besides, the problem still exists that I get healed before I can blink |
| 18:30.27 | Cryect | yep |
| 18:30.37 | NeoTron | I life tap 4 times and try to drain life and woops 6k heal boom full |
| 18:30.38 | kenlyric | NeoTron: yes, requires healer training. |
| 18:30.57 | kenlyric | I'm still working on it in my guild :) |
| 18:31.19 | Paene | my guild is kinda dieing |
| 18:31.22 | Paene | :( |
| 18:31.24 | NeoTron | I try to force healers not to heal me |
| 18:31.27 | deltron | that's everyone's guild |
| 18:31.29 | NeoTron | "I will drain life, don't bother" |
| 18:31.45 | NeoTron | but with a shadow priest ... that doesn't work since healers always have full mana |
| 18:31.50 | NeoTron | not that I really should complain |
| 18:32.15 | deltron | I have one last effort to try and save my guild |
| 18:32.15 | CIA-11 | 03bom * r33197 10Depot/libs/: |
| 18:32.15 | CIA-11 | Depot |
| 18:32.15 | CIA-11 | - delete all libs |
| 18:32.16 | kenlyric | full mana.. on curator... wouldn't that be nice. |
| 18:33.06 | Paene | full mana on Gruul is much better :-p |
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| 18:33.30 | kenlyric | lies |
| 18:33.38 | kenlyric | or, you're talking about paladins |
| 18:33.39 | deltron | never been there yet :/ |
| 18:33.42 | Cryect | Well why wouldn't you have full mana on Curator |
| 18:33.53 | Paene | I'm a mage :-p |
| 18:34.02 | kenlyric | Cryect: because I'm not a paladin. |
| 18:34.04 | Cryect | your a priest shadow fiend instantly fills you up during an evocate >_> |
| 18:34.19 | Paene | truth |
| 18:34.20 | kenlyric | that'd require a shadow priest friend. |
| 18:34.21 | Cryect | I mean its not a long fight |
| 18:34.27 | kenlyric | it is the way we do it :) |
| 18:35.26 | Paene | Curator really shouldn't be more than 3 evocations....2 if your locks keep DoTs up on him while killing the spawns |
| 18:35.45 | Paene | 1 if you decide to pot up |
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| 18:36.01 | deltron | we didn't have a lock last curator fight |
| 18:36.15 | kenlyric | we might as well not. |
| 18:36.21 | kenlyric | the curse of dooms never go up. |
| 18:36.36 | deltron | our locks usually time it right |
| 18:36.42 | deltron | so CoD hits right on evocate |
| 18:36.50 | packetlss | CoD during evoc is evil, esp if you amp it |
| 18:36.51 | Paene | meh |
| 18:36.54 | nadas_ | hmm, is PitBull ready for use or still in heavy development? :p |
| 18:36.58 | Paene | our locks just use CoA |
| 18:37.12 | deltron | heh |
| 18:37.18 | kenlyric | my mana all goes away betwen second and third evocate, when the tank starts randomly eating bolts. |
| 18:37.19 | Amadeo | since PB hasn't been released, I'd say it's in development :P |
| 18:37.21 | deltron | last CoD on evocate hit for almost 14K :) |
| 18:37.34 | packetlss | can easily do 20k with one uncritted, amped |
| 18:37.41 | Fisker- | nadas it's fine |
| 18:37.49 | Paene | my AP fireballs hit that hard :-p |
| 18:38.09 | Paene | AP is amazing for Curator |
| 18:38.13 | nadas | Fisker-: ok :) |
| 18:38.46 | CIA-11 | 03kemayo * r33198 10FishingAce/ (FishingAce.lua FishingAce.toc Libs/): |
| 18:38.46 | CIA-11 | FishingAce: Drycode! |
| 18:38.46 | CIA-11 | -Get rid of MetroGnome, use AceEvent instead. Since it's there already, etc. |
| 18:38.46 | CIA-11 | -Also remove AceDebug, Gratuity, Compost from libs -- not being used. |
| 18:38.46 | CIA-11 | -Nobly refrain from removing all the superfluous ()s. |
| 18:38.50 | Paene | <sigh> I came in here to get help fixing this mod and I keep getting distracted lol |
| 18:39.06 | packetlss | Curator is a nice fight, the trash after though is just brutally boring |
| 18:39.11 | kenlyric | lots of things would make curator easier, like if I could trust the paladins to keep the tank up. |
| 18:39.21 | kenlyric | heck, I can barely trust the paladins to *help* me keep the tank up. |
| 18:39.28 | deltron | we usually roll with one paladin |
| 18:39.34 | deltron | and a couple priests |
| 18:39.36 | Paene | our holy priest usually solo heals the tank |
| 18:39.46 | Paene | druid and pally/shaman heal the dps |
| 18:39.53 | kenlyric | Paene: I can't do it if he's eating bolts. |
| 18:40.02 | kenlyric | or, if he's our druid. |
| 18:40.03 | Kemayo | kenlyric: You ask, I deliver. Let me know if I horribly broke it, or anything. |
| 18:40.29 | kenlyric | I'll check tonight. |
| 18:40.31 | kenlyric | oh, and woot! :) |
| 18:40.44 | kenlyric | apparently I missed the fun last week when our druid tanked prince. |
| 18:40.49 | Paene | lol |
| 18:40.57 | kenlyric | I just boggled. |
| 18:41.00 | Paene | we have a feral druid |
| 18:41.13 | Paene | they're very situational |
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| 18:41.57 | Paene | Anyone here a mage? |
| 18:41.59 | Paene | other than me |
| 18:41.59 | kenlyric | maybe with like all heroic/karazhan gear... maybe. |
| 18:42.01 | Morghus | Feral druids are amazing for threat, especially for fights where dps is important |
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| 18:43.21 | kenlyric | I have a mage. |
| 18:43.21 | Paene | hm...looks like I may have to let this thing die :( |
| 18:43.34 | Paene | what level? |
| 18:43.51 | kenlyric | 20 |
| 18:43.54 | Cryect | kenlyric curious do you guys actually tank the astral flares or just let them fly around? |
| 18:44.28 | Paene | when we first started, we had our OT in DPS gear taunt them whenever he could |
| 18:44.37 | Cryect | they are taunt immune ;0 |
| 18:44.43 | Paene | then I'm a liar |
| 18:44.44 | Paene | lol |
| 18:45.00 | Paene | I guess we never tanked them then |
| 18:45.05 | CIA-11 | 03bom * r33199 10Depot/: |
| 18:45.05 | CIA-11 | Depot |
| 18:45.05 | CIA-11 | - adding externals |
| 18:45.06 | Paene | I know we let them fly around now |
| 18:45.07 | Cryect | If you know what you are doing they are easy as fuck to pick up |
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| 18:45.17 | kenlyric | we try to bring them around the same spot every time. |
| 18:45.21 | kenlyric | mostly away from me and the bolt eater. |
| 18:45.38 | Paene | it still boggles my mind that you have a dedicated bolt eater :-p |
| 18:45.52 | kenlyric | yeah, because we're the only guild in the world that does that.... |
| 18:45.56 | Cryect | We have our OT tank them so I mean there is barely any damage to heal |
| 18:46.11 | Cryect | you kinda end up with a dedicated bolt eater since its not random >_> |
| 18:46.24 | Paene | it's secondary threat right? |
| 18:46.26 | [dRaCo] | we've got one, too... a lock with some ar, pretty useful |
| 18:46.27 | Cryect | yes |
| 18:46.36 | Paene | yeah, that's constantly changing for us |
| 18:46.49 | Cryect | our rogue who is on curator the entire time ends up eating the bolts |
| 18:47.08 | kenlyric | Cryect: if we ever get to that point, that'll probably be us too. |
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| 18:47.21 | Paene | it usually cycles between me, the lock, the hunter, and the ele shaman if he's there |
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| 18:47.46 | Cryect | I assume you have all DPS on the flares then with occasionall Dots, chain lightning or multishot? |
| 18:47.53 | Paene | yep |
| 18:47.59 | Paene | and dps curator |
| 18:48.02 | Cryect | yeah then it would kinda randomly boss around |
| 18:48.06 | Cryect | bounce* |
| 18:48.06 | Paene | when no flares are alive |
| 18:48.54 | [dRaCo] | just have your bolt tank do some more dmg on the curator |
| 18:49.12 | Paene | meh, we just don't appoint a bolt tank |
| 18:49.36 | Paene | I think we used to tho |
| 18:50.17 | Paene | lol |
| 18:50.49 | Paene | I think we usually get Curator to about 80% before the first evocation |
| 18:51.07 | CIA-11 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r33201 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua: |
| 18:51.07 | CIA-11 | BulkMail: |
| 18:51.08 | CIA-11 | - whoops, removed a debug print |
| 18:51.15 | Funkeh` | we got him to 40-50% during first evoc :s |
| 18:52.20 | kenlyric | we're lucky if he enrages coming out of the third evocate. |
| 18:52.34 | kenlyric | and by lucky, I mean, it only happened once. |
| 18:53.47 | Funkeh` | oh we kill him during 2nd, well take him to 15% during 2nd and he enrage |
| 18:54.00 | Funkeh` | but it stops :/ |
| 18:54.23 | Funkeh` | it should last through enrage imo! :p |
| 18:57.30 | Punkie` | omg group support for bigwigs? |
| 18:58.01 | Funkeh` | ... |
| 18:58.08 | kenlyric | toupee? |
| 18:58.22 | Funkeh` | Punkie` grats, you jsut volunteered to write the first one |
| 18:58.44 | Kemayo | I feel silly calling to get a lift 0.8 miles to the rental car place. I really do. But it's raining... |
| 18:58.58 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:59.11 | Amadeo | if it doesn't cost you anything, screw them :P |
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| 19:03.15 | Paene | Anyone here use SmartSVN? |
| 19:03.24 | pastamancer | sometimes |
| 19:03.39 | Paene | trying to get this setup so I can import my project |
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| 19:08.19 | Paene | back later |
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| 19:09.35 | Amadeo | So Anthony Hopkins is in some new movie |
| 19:09.43 | Amadeo | I can't help but think it's Hannibal, even though it isn't |
| 19:11.22 | Punkie` | Funkeh`: haha, i will, then bigwigs will eternally get a bad name! :D |
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| 19:11.44 | Funkeh` | PunkWigs? |
| 19:11.48 | Punkie` | awesome |
| 19:11.56 | Heri1 | ? |
| 19:12.06 | Punkie` | i will just get pigwigs and do a find&replace to call it that |
| 19:12.17 | Punkie` | bigwigs |
| 19:12.21 | Punkie` | yaeh |
| 19:12.21 | Punkie` | woo |
| 19:12.27 | Heri1 | what? |
| 19:15.00 | sbu | woot? group support in bigwigs? |
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| 19:15.26 | Heri1 | ? |
| 19:15.48 | ravagernl | vhaarr: Would like to request a seperate AntiSpam addon |
| 19:16.00 | ravagernl | instead of including it into scm |
| 19:16.03 | Heri1 | isn't there one? :O |
| 19:16.38 | Saroz | Is there a way to get the top element of a table |
| 19:16.50 | JoshBorke | Saroz: what do you mean by top? |
| 19:17.01 | Cryect | you want to make a stack? |
| 19:17.03 | Saroz | end element |
| 19:17.04 | Heri1 | tables aren't stacks :O |
| 19:17.08 | Punkie` | ravagernl: just download the module and make your own toc |
| 19:17.25 | Cryect | assuming you only remove from the end and insert at the end |
| 19:17.35 | ravagernl | can't you break out of an ipairs loop? |
| 19:17.39 | Cryect | you can do table.maxn(whatever) |
| 19:17.43 | Saroz | nice |
| 19:17.50 | ravagernl | asuming it loops chronological through a table |
| 19:17.55 | Cryect | I wouldn't use ipairs |
| 19:17.57 | Saroz | maxn doesnt work |
| 19:18.00 | Cryect | if you want whats at the end |
| 19:18.07 | Cryect | if maxn won't work then ipairs won't work |
| 19:18.19 | Cryect | maxn is breaking because you have a gap in your table |
| 19:18.21 | Saroz | ah it does work |
| 19:18.22 | Saroz | cool |
| 19:18.38 | Cryect | as long as you used table.insert and only remove at the end maxn should always work |
| 19:18.50 | Saroz | well I don't :) |
| 19:18.54 | Paene | hm... |
| 19:18.56 | JoshBorke | you don't have to |
| 19:19.00 | Paene | I think I just did something I wasn't supposed to |
| 19:19.01 | Paene | lol |
| 19:19.04 | JoshBorke | as long as your table is sequentially ordered |
| 19:19.19 | Saroz | can't I sort it? |
| 19:19.20 | Cryect | hehe well you don't have to use table.insert but yeah |
| 19:19.39 | Cryect | sorting it is fine |
| 19:23.58 | Paene | I just got auto-prop errors when trying to import |
| 19:24.03 | Paene | which is odd |
| 19:24.12 | Paene | cause I have all the auto-props it says to have |
| 19:24.34 | kergoth | apparently you don't. |
| 19:24.42 | kergoth | if you did, it wouldn't be erroring |
| 19:24.56 | Paene | lol |
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| 19:29.36 | Paene | but I copied and pasted it directly from http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_AutoProps |
| 19:29.47 | vhaarr | Impossible, then it wouldn't error. |
| 19:30.20 | Paene | svn:eol-style is not set |
| 19:30.42 | kergoth | it would be, had you set up the auto-props. |
| 19:30.49 | kergoth | go look at your svn configuration file again |
| 19:31.03 | Paene | I'm in it right now |
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| 19:31.10 | Paene | enable-auto-props = yes |
| 19:31.10 | Paene | [auto-props] |
| 19:31.10 | Paene | *.png = svn:mime-type=image/png |
| 19:31.10 | Paene | *.jpg = svn:mime-type=image/jpeg |
| 19:31.10 | Paene | *.tga = svn:mime-type=image/tga |
| 19:31.11 | Paene | README = svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=native |
| 19:31.13 | Paene | *.cmd = svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=CRLF |
| 19:31.15 | Paene | *.bat = svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=CRLF |
| 19:31.17 | Paene | *.lua = svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=native |
| 19:31.19 | Paene | *.sh = svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=LF;svn:executable |
| 19:31.21 | Paene | *.toc = svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=native |
| 19:31.23 | Paene | *.txt = svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=native |
| 19:31.25 | Paene | *.xml = svn:mime-type=text/xml;svn:eol-style=native |
| 19:31.27 | Cryect | >_> |
| 19:31.30 | *** kick/#wowace [Paene!i=folk@ghybel696.krs.hia.no] by vhaarr (vhaarr) |
| 19:31.34 | Matrix110 | thanks:) |
| 19:31.43 | kergoth | thanks, quicker on the draw than i was |
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| 19:31.49 | hyperChipmunk | O-o |
| 19:31.53 | kergoth | don't spam the channel again. |
| 19:31.53 | hyperChipmunk | wtf was all that |
| 19:32.00 | Matrix110 | ace.pastey.net ftw |
| 19:32.16 | kergoth | enable-auto-props=yes has to be in the correct section. its likely you pasted into the wrong part of your configuration file |
| 19:32.22 | kergoth | once again, go look at it |
| 19:32.42 | kergoth | if necessary, read the svn book section on properties, i'm certain i linked to it from the svn rules page when i wrote that section. |
| 19:34.03 | pastamancer | Antiarc|Work: ping |
| 19:34.13 | Antiarc|Work | Pong. |
| 19:34.20 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, my server is down. :x |
| 19:34.24 | pastamancer | ok, thanks |
| 19:34.31 | Antiarc|Work | It blew up last night and I now have about 70gb of data in lost+found. |
| 19:34.36 | pastamancer | ouch |
| 19:34.40 | Antiarc|Work | Sooooo I don't know what to do about it. |
| 19:34.55 | pastamancer | let me guess, backups are for suckers? |
| 19:34.59 | Antiarc|Work | I will probably be bugging you for a copy of the armory tools source at some point, once I get the machine put back together. |
| 19:35.06 | Fisker- | Antiarc|Work! |
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| 19:35.14 | hyperChipmunk | pastamancer: you know it |
| 19:35.15 | Antiarc|Work | Backups are about 7 weeks old :( |
| 19:35.17 | CIA-11 | 03jayrox * r33202 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/ (Core.lua Localization.lua): FuBar_VampwatchFu: added "health" and "mana" to click spam for those players in your group that have no idea which does which... also changed "Gained" to "Amount" on the tablet. makes more sense this way. |
| 19:35.24 | Fisker- | what armory tools Antiarc|Work? :O |
| 19:35.29 | Fisker- | oh |
| 19:35.31 | hyperChipmunk | they're not really backups then, are they? |
| 19:35.33 | Fisker- | your own ;( |
| 19:35.37 | Antiarc|Work | Yes :) |
| 19:35.43 | Fisker- | i think i still got a copy |
| 19:35.54 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work: ack, that sucks man |
| 19:36.04 | Antiarc|Work | Yes. Yes, it does. |
| 19:36.18 | Punkie` | Antiarc|Work: I have a copy that is around a week old |
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| 19:36.30 | Fisker- | You have time for reworking it then :P |
| 19:36.33 | Punkie` | ill zip it |
| 19:36.34 | Fisker- | oops |
| 19:36.35 | Fisker- | warlock died |
| 19:36.45 | Fisker- | probably shouldn't irc when i'm on raids |
| 19:36.56 | Fisker- | atleast not on bosses |
| 19:37.28 | Antiarc|Work | Punkie`: I don't have anywhere to put it right now |
| 19:37.33 | Chompers | so i nuke my wtf folder trying to fix this problem i have |
| 19:37.40 | Antiarc|Work | I'll just troll for it in here when I have the server rebuilt. Thanks, though :) |
| 19:37.46 | Chompers | it doesnt fix it...and i've got to seup everything again :/ |
| 19:37.50 | Punkie` | well, it will always be here: |
| 19:37.59 | Punkie` | http://www.booncontrol.com/armory.zip |
| 19:38.06 | Paene | what I copied and pasted was the entire config file...if there was supposed to be more, then the installed must have screwed up when I installed TortoiseSVN |
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| 19:39.23 | Antiarc|Work | thanks, Punkie` |
| 19:39.28 | Saroz | Anyone know Tablet? Is it possible to have a category within a category? |
| 19:40.37 | Kemayo | Saroz: Nope. |
| 19:40.45 | Saroz | locationfu seems to do it? |
| 19:40.49 | Kemayo | Saroz: You can fake it pretty easily. |
| 19:40.49 | Punkie` | no problem |
| 19:40.57 | Saroz | how? |
| 19:42.16 | kenlyric | Fisker-: LOL |
| 19:42.22 | Kemayo | Depends -- how do you want it to look? |
| 19:42.47 | Saroz | I have 1 big category, and if someone clicks an item, I want to expand it with more details these details being a new category |
| 19:42.49 | Saroz | like locationfu |
| 19:42.56 | Saroz | but it always pops in below |
| 19:43.26 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33203 10PitBull/ (13 files in 12 dirs): PitBull: General cleanup of most of the options. More to come at a later date, hopefully. |
| 19:43.40 | Kemayo | Huh. I just looked at LocationFu -- it looks like you can add subcategories. |
| 19:43.59 | Kemayo | This is what I get for acting on an out-of-date understanding of the Tablet API, obviously. |
| 19:44.02 | Saroz | yea, but mine pops in below everything |
| 19:44.05 | Saroz | which is odd :) |
| 19:45.28 | Kemayo | Now *that* I have no experience with. Either read over LocationFu in great detail, or hope that ckknight will dispense pithy wisdom. |
| 19:46.00 | Saroz | I'm reading locationfu, but to me it seems like I do the exact same thing :) |
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| 19:47.01 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33204 10PitBull/HideBlizzard/HideBlizzard.lua: PitBull: HideBlizzard: Bugfix. |
| 19:47.06 | ckknight | Saroz: it's possible. Read the damn Tablet API on the wiki |
| 19:47.48 | Saroz | I am I am |
| 19:48.44 | Kemayo | ckknight: The API doesn't mention anything about subcategories. |
| 19:48.52 | Saroz | oh ohhhh |
| 19:48.57 | Saroz | *rasp ckknight* |
| 19:49.34 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 19:49.36 | Fisker- | kenlyric lol wut? |
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| 19:57.25 | Prophh | does anyone know if there is a MOD that shows you "which class" has you targted? in pvp? |
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| 19:58.34 | kenlyric | Fisker-: I was laughing at your death. |
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| 19:59.59 | Chompers | Error: DogTag-1.0: Bad argument #2 to `RegisterFontString' (table expected, got nil) |
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| 20:00.17 | Chompers | while changing the mana settings for target of target |
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| 20:00.38 | Chompers | if you're still about ck, hope that helps |
| 20:00.55 | Chompers | File: Interface\AddOns\PitBull\Mana\Mana.lua line:252 |
| 20:01.40 | Saroz | AHA! I figured it out |
| 20:01.43 | Saroz | sneaky |
| 20:02.08 | Fisker- | i didn't die kenlyric? |
| 20:02.22 | kenlyric | oh, you let someone die then. |
| 20:02.37 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33205 10PitBull/Mana/Mana.lua: PitBull-Mana - added check for nil |
| 20:02.43 | Chompers | :D |
| 20:03.08 | ckknight | Prophh: there's no real way to tell who's targetting you |
| 20:03.55 | Fisker- | Doesn't banzai report in raid and party? |
| 20:03.57 | Saroz | ckknight, you can't have subcategories with more columns than the original category, correct? |
| 20:03.59 | shieldb | Proph, at best I think you could check the target of target for everyone in your raid/party and see if any of them come up as you |
| 20:04.15 | ckknight | Saroz: any different columns |
| 20:04.25 | vhaarr | Proph: You can use Banzai-1.1 to get who's targetting you. |
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| 20:09.22 | Fisker- | this is madness btw |
| 20:09.46 | Aiiane | I'd respond with "This is sparta", but that's so cliche now. |
| 20:09.59 | Chompers | THIS IS SPARTA |
| 20:10.01 | Chompers | oh... |
| 20:11.20 | NeoTron | so does someone know the exact mechanics of nightbanes aggro wipe? |
| 20:11.25 | NeoTron | when does he wipe aggro exactly? |
| 20:11.29 | Punkie` | lies |
| 20:11.31 | Punkie` | its caketown |
| 20:11.32 | Punkie` | l2p |
| 20:11.34 | NeoTron | we had no hunter (/cry no misdirection) |
| 20:12.09 | NeoTron | so it was a bit harder (in addition to having to teach the "lazy" alliance tank to stance dance properly but he got that down) |
| 20:13.31 | NeoTron | Punkie`: if you're commenting me, I know the first and i've killed him. Just not without that extra misdirection threat (and had fear ward too before) |
| 20:13.49 | shieldb | NeoTron, as best I can tell he wipes aggro when he takes off and then again when he lands |
| 20:14.11 | Punkie` | NeoTron; I wasnt :) |
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| 20:14.20 | vhaarr | No, he wipes aggro after doing the rain of bones. |
| 20:14.20 | Punkie` | i was talking about that THIS IS SPARTA |
| 20:14.22 | Punkie` | :P |
| 20:14.47 | shieldb | I love that vanish is still an easy out for rain of bones |
| 20:14.59 | NeoTron | vhaarr: well.. he goes for one of our paladins but NOT The paladin that uses his "holy aggro threat" buff ability to tank the direct damage spell he throws out |
| 20:15.18 | vhaarr | NeoTron: Exactly, because he wipes it after he does that. |
| 20:15.21 | NeoTron | so he definitely wipes before he lands |
| 20:15.32 | NeoTron | I am just tryint go figure out exactly when before he lands :) |
| 20:15.36 | vhaarr | I just said. |
| 20:15.37 | NeoTron | like how long before |
| 20:15.40 | vhaarr | He wipes aggro after doing the rain of bones. |
| 20:16.00 | shieldb | if he doesn't wipe threat before he lands there's no way a tank could pick him up again without taunt off of healers |
| 20:16.56 | Saroz | ckknight, it seems the category inherics the number of columns from the parent category, and ignores 'columns' in the child AddCategory() |
| 20:17.18 | ckknight | I know. |
| 20:17.22 | ckknight | that's what I said |
| 20:17.37 | ckknight | you can't change the number of columns for subcategories |
| 20:18.03 | Saroz | meh! |
| 20:18.47 | NeoTron | one fun thing he did last night was to do his "you're too far from me" fire aoe ball of death attack |
| 20:18.55 | NeoTron | as he was flying further away from the raid to land |
| 20:19.03 | shieldb | pathing ftw! |
| 20:19.06 | Fisker- | People in my guild ceases to amaze me |
| 20:19.09 | shieldb | we had something screwy like that too |
| 20:19.18 | Fisker- | "I just corpsecamped this guy because he was annoying my alt" |
| 20:19.23 | shieldb | he swooped down to land 30 seconds early, feared, then kept on flying |
| 20:19.24 | Fisker- | And i said: "Omg reported!" |
| 20:19.39 | Fisker- | "For What? It's game mechanics a GM told me so when i reported him" |
| 20:19.39 | kenlyric | they cease? |
| 20:19.40 | Fisker- | wtf? |
| 20:19.43 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 20:19.46 | shieldb | then he landed after another 15 seconds and promptly feared again |
| 20:20.00 | Fisker- | he reported an alliance because he got ganked by them :P |
| 20:20.23 | NeoTron | we had him bug out |
| 20:20.34 | NeoTron | had just 5 ppl up - tank, 2 paladins, rogue and feral druid |
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| 20:20.44 | shieldb | Fisker-, PVP? On my server? It's more likely then you think. |
| 20:20.50 | NeoTron | they took him down from 48 to 25% (and did this to practice stance dancing etc) |
| 20:21.01 | Fisker- | indeed shieldb |
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| 20:21.11 | NeoTron | he flew up in the raid, rain of boned the last person standing who died.. and then promply did nothing except heal to full and sit in the air |
| 20:21.32 | shieldb | NeoTron, if the rogue got rain of bones and everyone was still alive you could have had a kill, there |
| 20:21.33 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r33206 10FuBar_AlchemyFu/FuBar_AlchemyFu.lua: FuBar_AlchemyFu: Put details into clickable subcategories. |
| 20:21.33 | NeoTron | so the encounter never reset (doors didn't open) |
| 20:21.35 | shieldb | if vanish was up, anyways |
| 20:21.36 | NeoTron | but you could still zone in |
| 20:21.42 | Proph | is there a mod that tells you which Class has you targetted in PVP?? |
| 20:22.04 | NeoTron | shieldb: unfortunately at that point he was the only one alive :P |
| 20:22.21 | NeoTron | It's impressive how long the druid, and two paladins, managed to tank him after the warrior went down |
| 20:22.22 | shieldb | I suppose evasion tanking the last 25% is a little out of the question |
| 20:22.34 | NeoTron | as well as dpsing him down alone :P |
| 20:22.41 | shieldb | without martin thunder, anyways ;) |
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| 20:24.19 | sbu | wtb t6 |
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| 20:25.34 | vhaarr | Proph: I told you already. |
| 20:29.59 | kenlyric | jump counter isn't character specific? |
| 20:30.11 | kenlyric | marked Critical. |
| 20:30.18 | Fisker- | ugh |
| 20:33.03 | Fisker- | why oh why was there put in a range detector on curator? :( |
| 20:33.03 | NeoTron | Fisker-: disable it if you don't wnat it? |
| 20:33.04 | CIA-11 | 03fenlis * r33207 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 20:33.04 | CIA-11 | RatingBuster: |
| 20:33.04 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.05 | Fisker- | never! |
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| 20:36.27 | vhaarr | yeah, see what happens when we start adding strategy crap? Fisker- cries. |
| 20:36.30 | vhaarr | I knew this would happen. |
| 20:37.37 | hyperChipmunk | we care about that? |
| 20:37.50 | nymbia | well, for something like gruul, a range detect makes sense |
| 20:37.54 | Matrix110 | well having the proximity window doesnt give you a strategy already you would notice that after doing being there for 1 time anyway |
| 20:38.20 | nymbia | but you can have a handful of people piled on each other for curator and have it never be a problem |
| 20:38.49 | Matrix110 | i would always spread at new bosses just for safety! |
| 20:38.57 | Matrix110 | bosses where you need to bunch are more rarely |
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| 20:39.07 | Fisker- | nymbia !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:39.49 | NeoTron | nymbia: that is true |
| 20:40.05 | NeoTron | spreading out helps pevent chain deaths from ranged pulling aggro |
| 20:40.07 | NeoTron | to a degree |
| 20:40.12 | NeoTron | so yeah common sense to spread out |
| 20:40.36 | CIA-11 | 03ulic * r33208 10BigWigs_BC5mans/ (24 files in 7 dirs): |
| 20:40.36 | CIA-11 | BigWigs_BC5mans: initial commit |
| 20:40.36 | CIA-11 | - BigWigs modules for 5-man instance in Outlands |
| 20:40.39 | NeoTron | it's scary how manu people don't get that |
| 20:40.48 | NeoTron | 5-man stff? cuul |
| 20:40.56 | NeoTron | and apparently I lost my ability to type |
| 20:40.57 | sbu | hm |
| 20:41.01 | Matrix110 | which boss needs bossmods in 5man Oo? |
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| 20:41.24 | NeoTron | Matrix110: "need" is nicorrect but it might help on murmur for example |
| 20:41.34 | hyperChipmunk | Hound Master |
| 20:41.37 | NeoTron | think about it from a perspective of someone not raiding all their time |
| 20:42.16 | Matrix110 | well at 5man its kinda easy to take a look at the emotes of the mob sometime^^ |
| 20:42.43 | NeoTron | I know |
| 20:42.46 | NeoTron | but. not a bad idea |
| 20:42.53 | NeoTron | I brought it up when BC was newer |
| 20:42.54 | Matrix110 | ye its not a bad idea |
| 20:43.02 | NeoTron | a lot of people are having issues with it so why not? :) |
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| 20:47.05 | phyber | hey, someone that knows lots about SVN, is there EVER a time when the revision is not an integer number? |
| 20:47.24 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 20:47.32 | phyber | I need to make sure before I tell the trac guys that they should only have the 'rev' column set to 'text' for backends that need it. morons. |
| 20:47.43 | phyber | good :) |
| 20:47.45 | hyperChipmunk | *** Mechgineer Thermaplugg: *KNOCKBACK* *** |
| 20:47.56 | vhaarr | phyber: Well it can get higher than 32767. |
| 20:48.28 | phyber | vhaarr: ok, well by integer I mean whole numbers. not necessarily datatype ;) |
| 20:48.53 | phyber | I was just shocked that I couldn't order by rev when selecting it in postgres, turns out they used text. |
| 20:48.56 | phyber | how useful! |
| 20:49.05 | phyber | sure, I can order by time instead, but... |
| 20:51.34 | Industrial | http://industrial-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/zQuestAutomation/ |
| 20:51.36 | Industrial | Accepts quests when you select them from a gossip window. Completes quests when possible and not given reward options. |
| 20:52.11 | hyperChipmunk | nice, now we don't have to bother with all that "lore" crap |
| 20:52.24 | Saroz | rename BigWigs_BC5mans to BigWigs_LittleWigs! |
| 20:52.36 | Fisker- | i agree |
| 20:52.47 | hugo | lore is far far away ;o |
| 20:52.48 | vhaarr | yes, but I'll let that guy make a forum post first. |
| 20:52.56 | Industrial | hyperChipmunk: exactly. |
| 20:53.19 | Saroz | shell_alert2 = "Shell Down, Attack!", |
| 20:53.21 | Saroz | psh |
| 20:53.24 | Industrial | I read my questlog thrice for all quests anyway |
| 20:53.32 | Industrial | (on the way to the first target >:D) |
| 20:53.41 | hugo | i read them all for my first character |
| 20:53.47 | Industrial | eheh |
| 20:54.07 | Industrial | I was considering putting in picking quests and completing and accepting them too |
| 20:54.09 | hyperChipmunk | can you write one that turns players into checkered cubes, too? character models hurt my fps |
| 20:54.16 | Industrial | ie fully automated |
| 20:54.21 | Industrial | but that was just a little too much |
| 20:54.39 | Industrial | hyperChipmunk: try the hunter taming quest with a troll. |
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| 20:55.31 | Industrial | hyperChipmunk: if you are not in the target audience (me, mostly) thats fine with me ;D |
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| 20:56.30 | hyperChipmunk | the last thing this game needs is more people who haven't read their fricking quests |
| 20:57.26 | CIA-11 | 03aileen * r33209 10FuBar_FarmerFu/FarmerFu.lua: FuBar_FarmerFu: Added a check so when the local cache gets wiped out, FarmerFu doesn't spew errors about the items on the list. |
| 20:58.39 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r33210 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull-Aura: some code reordering in :UpdateBuff and :UpdateDebuff to remove redundant code |
| 20:58.42 | NeoTron | hyperChipmunk: reading quests once is fine |
| 20:58.48 | NeoTron | when I level for the 5th time I really rather not |
| 20:59.01 | CIA-11 | 03ulic * r33211 10BigWigs_BC5mans/ (7 files in 7 dirs): |
| 20:59.01 | CIA-11 | BigWigs_BC5mans |
| 20:59.01 | CIA-11 | - Changed Author to match wowace wiki and svn username |
| 21:00.03 | vhaarr | ~seen ulic |
| 21:01.12 | purl | vhaarr: i haven't seen 'ulic' |
| 21:01.25 | vhaarr | :/ |
| 21:02.27 | Funkeh` | dear god |
| 21:02.30 | Funkeh` | WTF NAME IS THAT |
| 21:03.00 | Saroz | make littlewigs |
| 21:03.01 | Saroz | NOW |
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| 21:04.59 | Saroz | I got a mail from Kody-! |
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| 21:05.13 | Saroz | He says I slack :| |
| 21:05.27 | sbu | Funkeh`: what name? |
| 21:05.52 | Funkeh` | the above commit, sbu |
| 21:05.52 | Punkie` | BigWigs_BC5mans |
| 21:05.57 | Punkie` | lolol |
| 21:05.59 | vhaarr | it will be changed |
| 21:06.07 | Punkie` | you can tell Funkeh` came up with that name |
| 21:06.18 | Funkeh` | and fuck off wiht not being on irc when commiting |
| 21:06.52 | Funkeh` | i had 2 hours sleep, pills wont help |
| 21:07.21 | Punkie` | fyi im on vent with ammo |
| 21:07.23 | Punkie` | and he said |
| 21:07.29 | Punkie` | WTF did he call it that for |
| 21:07.30 | Punkie` | :D |
| 21:08.15 | Industrial | cus its about 5mans in BC? |
| 21:08.29 | Industrial | could have called it "shitpickle" |
| 21:08.31 | Industrial | but yeah |
| 21:08.35 | Industrial | ... |
| 21:09.09 | Industrial | ~whaleparry Punkie` |
| 21:09.16 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Punkie`'s attacks. |
| 21:09.23 | Punkie` | ~punkie |
| 21:09.25 | purl | somebody said punkie was awesome and lieks mudkips |
| 21:09.31 | Punkie` | 'tis true |
| 21:10.27 | Industrial | ~emulate Industrial |
| 21:10.30 | purl | Woo, first day at school. Stoned! |
| 21:10.46 | Industrial | aw, lol. that was this year :') |
| 21:11.04 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 21:11.44 | Funkeh` | lol... |
| 21:12.19 | hyperChipmunk | "Hello! Welcome to visit WWW.29GAMES.COnn (nn=M) It provides low-cost gold. if you purchase our gold,you will get the more 5%-15% gold as a gift." |
| 21:12.42 | Jens | --> EasyReport |
| 21:12.45 | hyperChipmunk | i like how they give me the handy decoder key for the TLD |
| 21:13.23 | Punkie` | haha |
| 21:13.53 | hyperChipmunk | i will get the more 5%-15% gold as a gift |
| 21:14.17 | hyperChipmunk | how could I refuse |
| 21:14.36 | renchap | can you get only the gift ? ^^ |
| 21:16.01 | Jens | Odd thing is happening on the auction house. Someone is selling obscene amounts of Sanguine Hibiscus. Thousands. I wonder how they collect that stuff, considering it's gathered in an instance. |
| 21:16.18 | hyperChipmunk | reset instance? |
| 21:16.33 | Jens | You can only do that a few times per hour. |
| 21:16.48 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but it takes awhile to get all of 'em |
| 21:16.59 | kebinusan | that bw5mans will be annoying too since bosses are alot different in heroics |
| 21:17.01 | hyperChipmunk | there are a lot |
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| 21:17.16 | kebinusan | neat Idea I spose |
| 21:17.35 | hyperChipmunk | kebinusan: don't tell us about it; nobody knows who that is |
| 21:17.38 | Fisker- | shieldb |
| 21:18.04 | Jens | By the way... any of you have any idea why none of my Ace mods are showing their frames? They are enabled (slash cmds work) but I don't see any of them. |
| 21:18.13 | Fisker- | why should you feel bad? |
| 21:18.38 | nadas | wewt, dead magtheridon |
| 21:18.39 | nadas | :p |
| 21:18.45 | kebinusan | oh |
| 21:18.53 | kebinusan | didnt realize he wasnt on irc |
| 21:21.16 | NeoTron | nadas: grats |
| 21:21.22 | NeoTron | we want to try but ar a bit afraid |
| 21:21.41 | nadas | heh, people kept screweing up in phase 1 |
| 21:21.48 | nadas | first time past that we killed him |
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| 21:22.17 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 21:23.25 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:25.07 | Fisker- | y helo thar |
| 21:27.07 | hyperChipmunk | greetings! stay awhile, and listen! |
| 21:27.38 | Chompers | ck, i had another error come up while configuring pitbull, want me to paste the error msg here? |
| 21:27.48 | ckknight | sure |
| 21:27.59 | ckknight | just the first line, though |
| 21:28.06 | Chompers | Error: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 21:28.12 | Chompers | in pitbull.lua |
| 21:28.13 | ckknight | I need a line number. |
| 21:28.26 | Chompers | while moving partytargets about, the warlock summoned their pet |
| 21:28.27 | ckknight | without a line number, it's 100% useless |
| 21:28.31 | Chompers | Line: 1361 |
| 21:28.50 | ckknight | found it |
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| 21:30.52 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33212 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - make the configmode check on PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED saner. |
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| 21:37.59 | ckknight | Imagine a ball of steel the size of the sun. Imagine that every trillion years, a fly lands on it. When the ball of steel has eroded away from the friction of all the flies landing, infinity will not even have begun. |
| 21:39.02 | Industrial | thats not true, infinity has started but it wont end :P |
| 21:39.25 | hyperChipmunk | infinity has a beginning? |
| 21:39.46 | ckknight | infinity has everything, man! |
| 21:40.01 | hyperChipmunk | duuuuude |
| 21:40.02 | Industrial | hyperChipmunk: everything does |
| 21:40.11 | Ominous_ | god not hyperthetical talk |
| 21:40.28 | ckknight | http://lab6.com/old/school/yearbook/clarkkkkson.html |
| 21:40.42 | hyperChipmunk | it's like, maaan...my mind has been totally opened |
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| 21:43.02 | CIA-11 | 03ulic * r33213 10LittleWigs/ (24 files in 7 dirs): |
| 21:43.02 | CIA-11 | LittleWigs |
| 21:43.02 | CIA-11 | - Initial import |
| 21:43.25 | ulic | I'm here now btw, as requested. |
| 21:43.59 | ckknight | LittleWigs? |
| 21:44.01 | Ominous_ | whats littlewigs |
| 21:44.02 | ulic | does anyone here have the power to delete the BigWigs_BC5mans import I did earlier, or I should I e-mail the google groups? |
| 21:44.12 | ckknight | give descriptions in your initial commits. |
| 21:44.12 | ulic | BigWig modules for 5-man instances |
| 21:44.21 | Ominous_ | ulic: anyone can |
| 21:44.29 | ulic | doh, I rememberd that with the first one I think, sorry about that. |
| 21:44.29 | ckknight | yea, you delete it |
| 21:44.46 | Ominous_ | just svn del http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/mod -m "mod: reason" |
| 21:44.49 | Ominous_ | i tink |
| 21:45.25 | ulic | ok |
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| 21:46.44 | Funkeh` | hi ulic |
| 21:46.48 | Funkeh` | thanks for joining |
| 21:46.49 | hyperChipmunk | boo |
| 21:47.09 | ckknight | Toupee? lol |
| 21:48.10 | Industrial | fun names stop being fun when there more then 30. |
| 21:48.15 | Industrial | well, say 100 |
| 21:48.20 | ulic | glad to be here |
| 21:48.23 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:48.26 | Industrial | and there are thousands of addons. |
| 21:48.27 | *** join/#wowace BankZ (i=BankZ@c-68-40-142-6.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 21:48.34 | ckknight | yea, that's true |
| 21:48.59 | ckknight | but (1) I don't want to prefix my addons with some arbitrary tag like ck (2) Most of the standard names are taken |
| 21:49.25 | Industrial | who not (1)? |
| 21:49.29 | Industrial | why |
| 21:50.16 | ckknight | yes, and I changed it for a reason. |
| 21:50.24 | ckknight | it feels pretentious |
| 21:50.31 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33214 10BigWigs_BC5mans/: removing - littlewigs |
| 21:50.33 | ckknight | also prevents independent authors from taking it over, imho |
| 21:50.49 | Industrial | I do it for ease, tbh. |
| 21:51.00 | ulic | thanks CIA-11 I was getting there, but hadn't made it yet :) |
| 21:51.20 | hyperChipmunk | and ckknight is nothing if not humble |
| 21:51.40 | ominous | ulic: it was funkydude |
| 21:51.43 | hyperChipmunk | ulic: CIA-11 is the reporter bot for svn changes; funkydude was the one who made the change |
| 21:51.53 | ominous | i beat u ! |
| 21:51.58 | hyperChipmunk | not that i actually know who funkydude is |
| 21:52.13 | ckknight | Funkeh` |
| 21:52.14 | Industrial | Funkeh`: |
| 21:52.24 | hyperChipmunk | ppl who use different names in irc need to be shot |
| 21:52.28 | Funkeh` | ouch |
| 21:52.30 | ulic | I see that now, haven't really done the whole svn thing before, still learning. |
| 21:52.31 | Funkeh` | ping ania |
| 21:52.34 | Funkeh` | mania* |
| 21:52.37 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 21:52.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Oh, yeah, cause "funkydude" is SOOOOOOO far from Funkeh` :P |
| 21:52.57 | Industrial | hyperChipmunk: f<tab> |
| 21:52.58 | hyperChipmunk | well i tried to tabcomplete funkey |
| 21:53.06 | hyperChipmunk | and didn't get anything |
| 21:53.12 | NightHawkTheSane | psh, tahts why you only do a few letters |
| 21:53.34 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but my fingers were too fast for me this time =P |
| 21:53.40 | ckknight | fun<tab> |
| 21:53.54 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 21:54.21 | ckknight | funtab seems like candy |
| 21:54.25 | BankZ | If I try and load fubar, wow crashes |
| 21:54.30 | ulic | Funkeh`: my tab complete seems to work |
| 21:54.53 | BankZ | if I disable it, it loads but ag_UF-Range check gives and error |
| 21:56.03 | Industrial | Through the gates of hell,as we make our way, through the nazi lines! Primo victoria! |
| 21:56.34 | Industrial | war metal |
| 21:56.34 | Industrial | lol :p |
| 21:56.47 | Jens | <BankZ> If I try and load fubar, wow crashes <-- If I try to load Fubar, no other Ace addon displays anything. |
| 21:57.36 | Industrial | have you isolated it to be the "Fubar" addon? |
| 21:57.41 | Jens | Yes. |
| 21:58.02 | Industrial | ckknight: its all your fault. |
| 21:58.08 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 21:58.18 | ckknight | Jens: any error messages or anything? |
| 21:58.29 | Nicken | Blame it on god. |
| 21:58.53 | Jens | No. I will try installing bugsack or whatever. |
| 21:59.11 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33215 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - make "Hide" option be on the bottom of the dewdrop menu. |
| 21:59.58 | vhaarr | ulic: Hi, welcome, and thanks for LittleWigs :) If you need any help with the API or such, feel free to ask. |
| 21:59.58 | kebinusan | Nicken: God doesnt commit to the SVN |
| 22:00.01 | BankZ | hmmm, seems like Prat was crashing wow |
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| 22:00.08 | BankZ | never seen an addon do that |
| 22:00.17 | BankZ | hmmm, maybe not |
| 22:00.30 | ckknight | Jens: yea, install buggrabber/bugsack |
| 22:00.57 | Nicken | God doesn't know Lua? :-( |
| 22:01.15 | Tupsi | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.26 | Nicken | No problem here |
| 22:01.33 | ominous | no problem here |
| 22:01.35 | BankZ | something is crashing my wow |
| 22:01.38 | BankZ | too |
| 22:01.44 | Bruners | no problem here either |
| 22:01.46 | BankZ | but I dont use spamsentry |
| 22:01.55 | Tupsi | hmm, it worked fine the first time i tried it tonight |
| 22:02.09 | ckknight | Nicken: God hacked most of this all together with perl |
| 22:02.10 | CIA-11 | 03ulic * r33216 10LittleWigs/ (16 files in 7 dirs): |
| 22:02.10 | CIA-11 | LittleWigs |
| 22:02.10 | CIA-11 | - Added new module & toc fields that Rabbit made for 5 man Parties |
| 22:02.15 | ulic | Tupsi: I used for like 30 minutes earlier today, even got a spam, had no problems. |
| 22:02.27 | Tupsi | then i logged of. after coming back trying to reenter i get a nice crash with debug and all send to blizz stuff |
| 22:02.39 | ulic | doh, it was ammo, shame on me |
| 22:02.45 | Tupsi | when i disabled it in the addon section wow starts fine |
| 22:02.50 | vhaarr | ulic: It was both. |
| 22:02.54 | vhaarr | ulic: I'm Rabbit. |
| 22:02.58 | ulic | oh, hehe |
| 22:03.02 | Jens | Bugsack says no errors. |
| 22:03.15 | Nicken | perl and god |
| 22:03.16 | Tupsi | the first time it seemed to work without flaw |
| 22:03.17 | vhaarr | ulic: There are a few problems with your mods, but overall it looks nice. |
| 22:03.24 | Jens | I have every other addon enabled but Fubar (and Fubar plugins) |
| 22:03.27 | Nicken | I found a SV file in my WTF folder that was 1 GB :-( |
| 22:03.30 | ulic | vhaarr: thanks for all you guys work adding 5-man suppot much appreciated. |
| 22:03.45 | Nicken | And i did NOT write the addon that made the SV file |
| 22:03.55 | Nicken | It was God |
| 22:05.29 | Jens | ckknight: Wish I could provide more info. |
| 22:05.49 | Tupsi | hmm, ill try removing the safe file |
| 22:05.52 | ckknight | Jens: delete your SV file for FuBar and all FuBar plugins (may want to back up) |
| 22:07.16 | Tupsi | yes, that worked, spamsentry is in the fubar now |
| 22:08.50 | vhaarr | ulic: Did you get my reply in privmsg? |
| 22:08.54 | Jens | ckknight: No difference. |
| 22:09.04 | ulic | vhaarr: yes replying now :) |
| 22:09.10 | ckknight | Jens: are you foreign? |
| 22:09.22 | Jens | I'm Danish. |
| 22:09.45 | ckknight | Jens: do you use enGB or something else like deDE? |
| 22:09.53 | Jens | enGB |
| 22:09.57 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:09.59 | ckknight | wtf, then |
| 22:10.15 | Jens | wtf indeed. |
| 22:10.26 | ravagernl | omg a lvl 29 warrior with 10k healh |
| 22:10.27 | ckknight | Jens: you use WAU or something like that to update? |
| 22:10.30 | ominous | have you got the most up to date version? |
| 22:10.33 | Jens | SVN |
| 22:10.48 | Jens | With externals (if that matters) |
| 22:12.47 | ravagernl | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=38814 |
| 22:13.57 | Jens | Tried loading only Fubar+ClockFu. Nothing. |
| 22:14.09 | Jens | FB + MoneyFu, nothing. |
| 22:15.05 | BankZ | Did you do yeah, I am having major probs too |
| 22:15.06 | Jens | This is like... strange. I'll try pulling old versions from SVN. |
| 22:15.15 | BankZ | never should have gotten the latets :/ |
| 22:15.55 | BankZ | to load, I have to disbale prat, fubar friends and fubar xp |
| 22:16.02 | BankZ | *disable |
| 22:18.49 | shieldb | Fisker-, you rang? |
| 22:18.51 | BankZ | this blows |
| 22:19.17 | BankZ | odd things is its only happening to one of my toons |
| 22:19.23 | BankZ | my alt loads fine |
| 22:19.33 | ominous | then delete ur per char db |
| 22:19.40 | Fisker- | indeed i did shieldb |
| 22:19.43 | ominous | for that char |
| 22:19.48 | Fisker- | but you were so slow that it doesn't matter anymore |
| 22:19.55 | ominous | ~whaleslap Fisker- |
| 22:19.56 | purl | ACTION beats Fisker- upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 22:20.05 | Fisker- | i was going to complain about missing timers in karazhan |
| 22:20.15 | BankZ | where is the DB and what will it break if i del it? |
| 22:20.23 | Fisker- | but i found out they apparently doesn't show before 1 hour is left |
| 22:20.36 | ominous | wow\wtf\accountname\server\charname |
| 22:20.40 | shieldb | you can change that if you'd like in your settings |
| 22:20.50 | ominous | it will break per char mod vars |
| 22:20.56 | shieldb | just change maxshowtime to however long in minutes, or 0 to just show all bars |
| 22:21.03 | shieldb | my thought is that I don't want to see bars for two hours straight |
| 22:23.36 | CIA-11 | 03toadkiller * r33217 10AutoBar/Core.lua: |
| 22:23.36 | CIA-11 | AutoBar: |
| 22:23.36 | CIA-11 | -- Bug Fix for 2.1. |
| 22:24.03 | BankZ | that didnt fix it |
| 22:24.49 | Jens | There are ass-goblins in my computer. |
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| 22:25.55 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33218 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - through a series of hacks, should fix upgrade bugs. |
| 22:26.30 | BankZ | that fix the crash? |
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| 22:28.40 | hyperChipmunk | only one way to find out |
| 22:29.09 | *** join/#wowace JJSheets (n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 22:29.18 | ominous | JJSheets: can i /grovel |
| 22:29.21 | Jens | Alright... |
| 22:29.21 | ominous | for a feature |
| 22:29.31 | JJSheets | what feature? :) |
| 22:29.32 | Jens | I deleted all Fubar* SV's. |
| 22:29.40 | ominous | JJSheets: /grovel for spell locking per bar not button |
| 22:29.45 | Jens | Using the version before latest of Fubar. |
| 22:29.53 | Jens | And Feb22 of BagFu. |
| 22:29.56 | Jens | It works now. |
| 22:30.31 | JJSheets | Ominous, it's coming, but not likely tonight... I'm helping with another photo shoot tonight if the model actually shows up. :p |
| 22:30.34 | hyperChipmunk | JJSheets: why'd you jack up my macro icons, yo |
| 22:30.47 | JJSheets | hyperChipmunk, cause I am the bug master. |
| 22:31.17 | Tupsi | BankZ : yes for one time though only |
| 22:31.36 | BankZ | just run WAU? |
| 22:31.52 | hyperChipmunk | it like picks a random one of my macros and uses that icon for all of them |
| 22:32.28 | Tupsi | ahm, i was refering to my wow crash from spamsentry |
| 22:32.30 | hyperChipmunk | putting a #show sometimes helps, sometimes taking it out fixes it |
| 22:32.49 | BankZ | I dont think its limited to spamsentry |
| 22:32.55 | Tupsi | ah well, this time it didnt work anyway |
| 22:32.59 | JJSheets | dang... that's weird... |
| 22:33.09 | BankZ | for me its prat, furbar friends and furbar xp |
| 22:33.24 | JJSheets | hmm... do I want to help photo a hot tall skinny chick... or fix the macro bug... |
| 22:33.29 | Tupsi | just trying to renenter without it |
| 22:33.48 | Tupsi | your right. doesnt work as well now |
| 22:33.48 | Jens | JJSheets: Fix bugs. Don't be a tool. |
| 22:34.03 | JJSheets | but I like being a tool... :) |
| 22:34.15 | Funkeh` | ckknight: no point doing a hack tbh.. the only reason we have upgrade bugs is because the files script is trying to update every single addon and failing, which is why some addons have older versions of the library, the exact sam ething will ahppen now, not all addons will get the hack |
| 22:34.49 | ckknight | best solution for now |
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| 22:35.18 | BankZ | so, how can I stop wow from crashing? |
| 22:36.05 | Funkeh` | i took about 50 minutes every time you do an ace2 update lol, and sitll doesn't do all of them, just too many addons |
| 22:36.14 | Funkeh` | suprised the server doesn't die |
| 22:36.25 | Tupsi | ok, "just" disabling it does not do the trick, you have to log into a different char first |
| 22:36.29 | Tupsi | now THATS weird |
| 22:36.35 | Tupsi | never had something remotly like that |
| 22:36.37 | nymbia | ckknight: errors are gone now but OnEnable isnt firing for addons that loaded before the newest version of the library is active |
| 22:36.39 | ominous | JJSheets: yea i noticed that too |
| 22:36.46 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33219 10PitBull_Banzai/PitBull_Banzai.lua: PitBull_Banzai: Nicer options. |
| 22:37.07 | ckknight | nymbia: :-( |
| 22:37.08 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33220 10PitBull/ (Class/ Layouts/ABF.lua PitBull.lua PitBull.toc): |
| 22:37.08 | CIA-11 | PitBull: |
| 22:37.08 | CIA-11 | - layouts can now inherit from other layouts. All layouts inherit from ABF by default. |
| 22:37.08 | CIA-11 | - extraFrames changed to a { name = function } system, where the function will be run, where the frame should be created. |
| 22:37.08 | CIA-11 | - removed Class module. |
| 22:37.09 | CIA-11 | - classText frame added to ABF. |
| 22:37.42 | nymbia | ~blame Funkeh` |
| 22:37.44 | purl | ACTION blames Funkeh` (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
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| 22:38.04 | Funkeh` | <3 nymbia |
| 22:38.08 | nymbia | ;) |
| 22:38.29 | Punkie` | Funkeh` what is your class/race? |
| 22:38.39 | Punkie` | i think of you as a gnome warrior for some reason :o |
| 22:38.40 | Punkie` | :D |
| 22:38.45 | nymbia | anyway, afk a few cleaning up my porch, neighbor's brats trashed it |
| 22:39.11 | JJSheets | neighbor's brats should all be shot and skinned. |
| 22:39.15 | Stephmw | Punkie`: haha, that sounded almost like "A/S/L?" |
| 22:39.21 | Punkie` | :D |
| 22:39.26 | nymbia | indeed JJSheets |
| 22:39.30 | Morghus | Hmm... are there more than 3 layouts for Bartender3? |
| 22:39.37 | Punkie` | It's ASL |
| 22:39.40 | Punkie` | but geekier |
| 22:39.41 | Punkie` | :D |
| 22:39.59 | Morghus | "C/R/S" - Class/Race/Server ;) |
| 22:40.46 | Jens | For whatever reason, Fubar and friends now work. |
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| 22:41.50 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33221 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - cleaned up the hack to actually work. |
| 22:41.55 | Kemayo | Damn power-cuts. |
| 22:41.59 | ckknight | Jens: I fixed it! |
| 22:42.05 | Jens | Yay! |
| 22:42.41 | Morghus | *throws credits at ckknight* ^^ |
| 22:42.59 | Jens | I should probably wipe my SV files and start over. |
| 22:43.02 | BankZ | seems like fubar is causing me the problems |
| 22:43.05 | Punkie` | are they galactic credits? |
| 22:43.10 | Punkie` | if so, ill have some too |
| 22:44.35 | Garoun | what's the lead time between updates posted in here and when the aceupdater would pick them up? |
| 22:44.58 | Arrowmaster | the update script runs every 20 minutes |
| 22:45.05 | Garoun | k |
| 22:45.10 | hyperChipmunk | JJSheets: better be fixin' my bug, jerk |
| 22:46.14 | JJSheets | lmao... was tryin to before being called away, but... gotta go... I'll get to it after the hot chick photo shoot. :p seeya |
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| 22:47.21 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r33222 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: |
| 22:47.21 | CIA-11 | PitBull - fix a typo in the layout inheritance. |
| 22:47.21 | CIA-11 | - also, if you specify false as the inheritor, then it won't inherit from ABF automatically. |
| 22:48.09 | Funkeh` | Punkie` dwarf shadow priest |
| 22:48.18 | Punkie` | O.O |
| 22:48.31 | Punkie` | omg guess me, guess me! |
| 22:49.27 | ckknight | gnome warrior? |
| 22:49.33 | Punkie` | no :( |
| 22:49.47 | Jens | People actually play gnome warriors? |
| 22:49.56 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 22:50.00 | Punkie` | our MT is a gnome warrior |
| 22:50.06 | Punkie` | female gnome warrior |
| 22:50.09 | Punkie` | in fact! |
| 22:50.11 | Jens | s/gnome warriors/gnomes |
| 22:50.13 | Punkie` | we have 2 female gnome warriors |
| 22:50.25 | Punkie` | i am a gnome rogue |
| 22:50.28 | Punkie` | I RULE! |
| 22:50.30 | Punkie` | ~punkie |
| 22:50.32 | purl | somebody said punkie was awesome and lieks mudkips |
| 22:50.32 | Chompers | guess me? |
| 22:50.38 | Punkie` | a crocodile |
| 22:50.42 | Chompers | correct |
| 22:50.46 | Chompers | a level 12 one |
| 22:50.54 | Punkie` | i am teh winzor |
| 22:51.39 | ckknight | alright, I have class |
| 22:53.02 | ominous | ckknight so in the new function ABF.extraFrames.classText(unit, frame) how do the frames get deleted after? |
| 22:54.36 | ominous | ckk dw i see |
| 22:54.49 | ominous | clever :) |
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| 22:59.25 | Morghus | <3 SnapToGrid |
| 22:59.43 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 23:00.06 | hyperChipmunk | the initial resistance to movement pisses me off when trying to place things |
| 23:00.22 | Morghus | Oh yes, why is that? |
| 23:00.43 | Morghus | I need to move it a fraction to the left, and then I have to move it 2cm to get it moving. Odd stuff. |
| 23:00.45 | ominous | cos blizz made it that way |
| 23:01.00 | Morghus | Ah right. That's what STG is based around? |
| 23:01.32 | hyperChipmunk | that's just the drag code for the game |
| 23:01.43 | hyperChipmunk | stg just helps mitigate the annoyance |
| 23:03.07 | Morghus | I wonder Gello's doing on addons, I'd dare say noone's made as many addons that I've used as him:P |
| 23:03.13 | Morghus | *on addons atm |
| 23:03.49 | Morghus | ... I keep forgetting to actually -write- what I'm thinking >< |
| 23:07.43 | CIA-11 | 03nymbia * r33223 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua: BulkMail: Debug prints are sexy, but just for fun, let's remove a really spammy one. |
| 23:11.08 | Diao | whoa |
| 23:11.20 | Diao | I updated my ace addons and now trinketmenu is broken for some reason |
| 23:11.20 | Diao | o_o |
| 23:11.27 | hyperChipmunk | nymbia: which one was that? |
| 23:11.42 | Diao | Actually, all my non-ace addons are broken now o_O |
| 23:11.43 | hyperChipmunk | oh oops |
| 23:11.48 | hyperChipmunk | thx =x |
| 23:12.06 | hyperChipmunk | foo |
| 23:12.07 | nymbia | hyperChipmunk: it was in :Send |
| 23:12.08 | hyperChipmunk | foo |
| 23:12.40 | hyperChipmunk | i removed one earlier; i fooled myself by putting in two! |
| 23:12.56 | Punkie` | omg is this poetry hour? |
| 23:13.04 | Diao | I get no error messages.. just none of my other addons are working as they should D: |
| 23:13.05 | nymbia | hehe |
| 23:13.30 | NeoTron | Diao: seems odd that non-ace stuff would break.. |
| 23:14.00 | Diao | It is odd. |
| 23:14.43 | Punkie` | g'nite peeps, have a nice night/day |
| 23:15.44 | Diao | Actually it's just auctioneer and trinketmenu which I use that aren't ace |
| 23:15.47 | Diao | and neither of them are working o_o |
| 23:15.48 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:15.54 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 23:16.13 | nevcairiel | someone posted on the forums, that auctioneer stopped working with bt3 |
| 23:16.15 | Diao | both were working fine 10 minutes ago before I ran WAU |
| 23:17.14 | nevcairiel | my auctioneer works tho |
| 23:17.52 | Morghus | nevcairiel: Are there other layouts available for bt3? :) |
| 23:17.54 | Phatrik | hmmm ArkInventory doesn't update if you use Postal to alt-click send mail |
| 23:18.07 | nevcairiel | Morghus: with cyCircled |
| 23:18.23 | Morghus | A pity I think cyCircled looks horrible :p |
| 23:18.34 | Chompers | someone else with an auctioneer problem? |
| 23:18.36 | ulic | they keywords I should be using in files are $Revision$ & $Date$? |
| 23:18.41 | ulic | -y |
| 23:18.59 | Diao | Yeah Chompers |
| 23:19.06 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33224 10LittleWigs/ (15 files in 7 dirs): LittleWigs: cleanups/fixes/svn props |
| 23:19.08 | [Ammo] | ulic: yeah |
| 23:19.13 | Diao | Both Auctioneer and Trinketmenu are broken for me after updating ace addons for some reason |
| 23:19.16 | [Ammo] | but funky just fixed it for you |
| 23:19.43 | ulic | I was working on it :) |
| 23:19.45 | ulic | but thanks |
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| 23:19.53 | ulic | still learning |
| 23:20.01 | Funkeh` | are you using tortoise? |
| 23:20.15 | knarf- | Anyone having problems with auctioneer not loading properly? |
| 23:20.16 | hyperChipmunk | haha you're too slow!!! |
| 23:20.20 | ulic | yes |
| 23:20.26 | Chompers | ratingsbuster too |
| 23:20.38 | break19 | lots of stuff not loading |
| 23:20.42 | Funkeh` | then you just want the svn:keywords and rev Date |
| 23:20.48 | Diao | Yup knarf- |
| 23:20.52 | break19 | sounds like someone might have broken a lib.. |
| 23:21.00 | Diao | Lots of stuff broke with latest ace updates lol |
| 23:21.04 | knarf- | Cry :< |
| 23:21.10 | Diao | oh hey you're right |
| 23:21.13 | Diao | ratingbuster is broken too |
| 23:21.16 | nymbia | break19: AceEvent doesnt like upgrading at the moment, just get your copies of it all current |
| 23:21.21 | Diao | didn't mouseover my inventory |
| 23:21.32 | Diao | so fix is just run with skip version check? |
| 23:21.35 | break19 | nymbia: updated like 2mins ago :p |
| 23:22.05 | nymbia | break19: did you update every copy of aceevent that you have? |
| 23:22.24 | Funkeh` | ulic: look at prototype.lua |
| 23:22.24 | break19 | nymbia: that will take half a lifetime. lol |
| 23:22.27 | Diao | Using WAU and skip version check in preferences should update to latest lib, right? |
| 23:22.36 | Funkeh` | don't use the old type of messages using TriggerEvent |
| 23:22.36 | nymbia | Diao: yup |
| 23:22.40 | Diao | Alright |
| 23:23.07 | Diao | Thanks :) |
| 23:23.08 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r33225 10BigWigs/Plugins/RaidWarn.lua: BigWigs: send to party if in a party |
| 23:23.10 | Funkeh` | ulic: theres some handy things in there to make it easier for you |
| 23:23.49 | break19 | nymbia: my poor little bash script updates via /files/*.zip - and theres no simple way to make sure I have latest AceEvent |
| 23:24.38 | nymbia | break19: then grab the Ace2 standalone temporarily until the bug is fixed |
| 23:25.22 | break19 | or. I could just grab ace2.zip :p |
| 23:25.33 | nymbia | yeah! |
| 23:25.36 | nymbia | wait... |
| 23:25.40 | nymbia | >.> |
| 23:25.47 | break19 | instead of every single library... |
| 23:25.49 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[ (n=Vegeta-G@xdslei241.osnanet.de) |
| 23:26.03 | nymbia | i didnt say every single library :( |
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| 23:26.17 | nymbia | ace2.zip ~= !!!SAL |
| 23:26.24 | Morghus | Is there a way to change the strata of BT3? |
| 23:26.34 | break19 | !!standalone implies sal, which is what I read by "switch to standalones" |
| 23:27.16 | nymbia | "break19: then grab the Ace2 standalone temporarily until the bug is fixed" |
| 23:27.27 | break19 | "what we have here.. is failure.. to communicate" heh |
| 23:27.36 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r33226 10LittleWigs/LittleWigs.toc: LittleWigs: Add zone names to X-BigWigs-LoadInZone and made the whole loadondemand |
| 23:27.43 | break19 | my dyslexic mind added an s to standalone :p |
| 23:27.56 | nymbia | ;) |
| 23:29.20 | CIA-11 | 03jerry * r33227 10GridAlert/: Created folder remotely |
| 23:29.30 | sbu | heh |
| 23:29.34 | sbu | stuff not loading is 1 problem |
| 23:29.44 | sbu | 2 ppl reported they got wow errors on login |
| 23:29.58 | sbu | switch to standalonelibs -> no problems |
| 23:30.23 | break19 | dyslexia sucks, but I've dealt with it so long, i hardly notice it.. best way to deal with it, simple.. learn every word you can. then, when you see letters that dont quite work right, read it again.. and your memory and knowledge of vocabulary will override the transposition, and you'll barely notice it's not right. |
| 23:30.42 | Chompers | or just blunder your way through everything |
| 23:30.47 | Chompers | both methods work |
| 23:31.03 | break19 | Chompers: true, but i prefer the more intelligent approach :P |
| 23:31.03 | knarf- | Anyone have come up with a fix for this not loading buisness? |
| 23:31.03 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r33228 10LittleWigs/ (filelist.wau littlewigs-lod.bat littlewigs-lod.sh): LittleWigs: Remove deletion of littlewigs folder from lod scripts, makes updating with svn not such a pain, and added filelist.wau for WAU lod enabling |
| 23:31.24 | CIA-11 | 03jerry * r33229 10GridAlert/ (7 files in 3 dirs): GridAlert: Initial commit |
| 23:31.32 | break19 | knarf-: nymbia just said what it is.... install the Ace2.zip from files.wowace.com |
| 23:32.05 | knarf- | I just did :S |
| 23:32.14 | nymbia | or just get your AceEvent up to date |
| 23:33.15 | knarf- | Guess I gotta make sure no old version is embedded somewhere |
| 23:33.17 | Diao | yay |
| 23:33.18 | Diao | Everything works |
| 23:33.20 | Diao | Thanks nymbia |
| 23:33.39 | nymbia | knarf-: just make sure the first one that loads is up to date and you're fine |
| 23:37.11 | Stephmw | hmmm |
| 23:37.20 | Stephmw | first trip into SL was a complete disaster |
| 23:37.39 | Stephmw | 8 wipes... and group disbanded at 3rd boss |
| 23:40.12 | Killmore | LittleWigs ? |
| 23:40.46 | ulic | 5-man instance modules for BigWigs |
| 23:41.43 | Killmore | omg nice ! |
| 23:42.33 | ulic | should the filelist.wau be something that is edit by hand if a new directory is made on a commit? |
| 23:43.15 | Funkeh` | yes ulic |
| 23:43.21 | Funkeh` | just add the directory entry |
| 23:43.27 | Funkeh` | just like the sh and bat files |
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| 23:43.41 | nymbia | bleh, OnEnables still arent working |
| 23:43.46 | ulic | Funkeh`: right, ok |
| 23:44.11 | Morghus | Where can I set the strata of an addon? |
| 23:45.35 | vhaarr | Addons do not have a strata, frames do. |
| 23:45.46 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33230 10LittleWigs/filelist.wau: LittleWigs: [Ammo] you CAN'T SPELL :) |
| 23:47.57 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33231 10LittleWigs/LittleWigs.toc: LittleWigs: change title to correctly display |
| 23:48.36 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33232 10BigWigs/Plugins/Sound.lua: BigWigs: Sound: Fix default sound not playing for standard messages. |
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| 23:49.24 | ckknight | hey all |
| 23:49.34 | Bruners | hey ckknight |
| 23:49.44 | Chompers | hello |
| 23:49.50 | Funkeh` | lo |
| 23:50.57 | nymbia | ckknight: OnEnables (for all addons, not just the ones loaded pre-upgrade) arent running when aceevent is upgraded still :( |
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| 23:51.22 | ckknight | which is odd as OnEnable is handled by AceAddon, not the addon itself |
| 23:51.34 | nymbia | very |
| 23:51.37 | ulic | my Capacitus.lua and Kelidan.lua don't seem to be actually get the revision data when I do an svn update. |
| 23:52.01 | nymbia | i know you're at class and stuff, any debuggery i should try or anything? |
| 23:52.11 | Funkeh` | ulic do an update of the whole folder |
| 23:52.12 | CIA-11 | 03rabbit * r33233 10PitBull/ (HideBlizzard/HideBlizzard.lua PitBull.lua): PitBull: Move the configMode and hideBlizzard options to the top of the menu. |
| 23:52.17 | ckknight | nymbia: fix it? |
| 23:52.24 | nymbia | hmmm.. k |
| 23:52.45 | ckknight | or figure out why AceAddon isn't receiving PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 23:52.58 | Funkeh` | as in the whole littlewigs folder |
| 23:53.03 | ckknight | pretty much that's the issue |
| 23:53.12 | ulic | Funkeh`: right-click on LittleWigs->SVN Update, same |
| 23:53.21 | ulic | should I try to clearn and re-checkout? |
| 23:53.25 | Funkeh` | what does it do? |
| 23:53.39 | Funkeh` | yeah you could try that |
| 23:53.40 | vhaarr | ulic: That won't cut it, you need to do an update in the directory above. |
| 23:53.47 | ulic | Complete, At revision: 33233 |
| 23:54.38 | ulic | I'm doing it on the root for littlewigs, if I go up a dir, I only get SVN Checkout |
| 23:54.57 | vhaarr | ulic: You can't do it with Tortoise. |
| 23:55.01 | vhaarr | You need to use the command line. |
| 23:55.04 | ulic | ah |
| 23:55.11 | vhaarr | ulic: you're in windows, then? |
| 23:55.25 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r33234 10FuBar_AlchemyFu/FuBar_AlchemyFu.lua: FuBar_AlchemyFu: Don't sort, it seems to corrupt data. |
| 23:55.36 | ulic | well I do development on my windows box, where I can test the addons |
| 23:55.38 | vhaarr | ulic: cmd.exe -> cd your AddOns directory and execute "svn update .\* --ignore-externals" |
| 23:55.47 | break19 | oo, a new fubar.. *looks* |
| 23:56.25 | CIA-11 | 03funkydude * r33235 10LittleWigs/ (ShadowLab/Murmur.lua ShatteredHalls/Warchief.lua): LittleWigs: UTF-8 |
| 23:57.52 | vhaarr | ckknight: tweaking settings like group spacing, frame width/height/scale, etc, are really slow in raid config mode. |
| 23:58.04 | vhaarr | I see why they would be, but they're a bit too slow. |
| 23:58.43 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:58.43 | vhaarr | I can't adjust the sliders properly |
| 23:58.43 | ckknight | upgrade hardware! |
| 23:58.43 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:58.44 | vhaarr | it just locks my screen for a few seconds |
| 23:58.44 | vhaarr | lol |
| 23:58.44 | vhaarr | OK! |
| 23:58.44 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:58.44 | ckknight | I'll see what I can do |
| 23:58.44 | ckknight | later, though, busy |
| 23:58.53 | vhaarr | ~seen elkano |
| 23:59.01 | purl | elkano <n=elkano@srbk-590fb9ed.pool.einsundeins.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 32m 52s ago, saying: 'anyone of you played super Mario? http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=22986'. |
| 23:59.08 | vhaarr | Elkano added those X's on auras, right? they're jumping around the place |
| 23:59.16 | break19 | ckknight: here's something that might help with that.. i've noticed it too. only show 1 buff/debuff icon in config mode. |
| 23:59.33 | ckknight | break19: redirect to nymbia |
| 23:59.57 | break19 | ckknight: kk |
